[07:25] <nobuto> hi, can somebody please review my PR for apache-php layer? https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-apache-php/pull/4
[09:23] <kjackal> admcleod: not enough slaves?
[09:23] <admcleod> kjackal: it appears that trying to run the hbase smoke-test when i dont have a 3 slave cluster deployed (only 1 slave) it dies due to min/max replication factor issue
[09:24] <kjackal> but the smoketest setsup only one slave, right?
[09:25] <kjackal> I mean the amulet test that runs the smoketest sets up a single slave cluster
[09:25] <admcleod> kjackal: im not running the amulet test yet, i deployed it manually
[09:38] <kjackal> admcleod: I have a question
[09:39] <kjackal> you know how we have this flag --no-local-layers
[09:39] <kjackal> is there a way to say no-local-layers except layer XYZ ?
[09:42] <admcleod> kjackal: im not sure. i would probably rename a local dir or something to work around that
[09:42] <admcleod> kjackal: or move things around
[09:43] <admcleod> kjackal: --include and --exclude migth be nice though
[09:43] <kjackal> Yes, for now i am moving thing around
[09:46] <kjackal> admcleod: that is stange.... I see that hadoop-client becomes ready before the plugin even installs java....
[09:46] <admcleod> kjackal: which state?
[09:46] <kjackal> admcleod: I must have something setup worng...
[09:47] <kjackal> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17320656/
[10:00] <brunogirin> Hi all, I'm trying to configure Juju 2.0 to work with an OpenStack cloud and I'm getting very confused about how to do this. I've got a Juju 1 environments.yaml file for it but am struggling to migrate that to 2.0. Can anybody help?
[10:03] <admcleod> kjackal: one moment
[10:03] <admcleod> brunogirin: where are you getting stuck?
[10:05] <kjackal> admcleod, brunogirin: I will try!
[10:05] <brunogirin> admcleod: understanding what goes into the cloud config, the model and if anything goes in the model, how I define it
[10:06] <tzounox> hello I got hook failed "update-status" on juju an this error from logs unner.go:275 stopped "api", err: login for "machine-0-lxc-3" blocked because upgrade in progress
[10:06] <tzounox> could you help me with this?
[10:07] <kjackal> brunogirin: what instructions did you follow to configure juju 2.0 with openstack?
[10:07] <admcleod> brunogirin: so there is a basic example here: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/clouds (if you search the page for 'openstack.example.com' you'll find it)
[10:08] <admcleod> tzounox: have you actually recently tried to upgrade the charm on that unit?
[10:08] <tzounox> yeah it says that it is on latest version
[10:09] <tzounox> it says upgrade in progress but it is not
[10:09] <brunogirin> admcleod, kjackal: yes, that's the doc I was following; 1st question: the enpoint specified under region-name, is it the identity endpoint, the compute one, another one?
[10:09] <tzounox> dont know whats happening
[10:10] <brunogirin> and where do attributes like "use-floating-ip" ad "tenant-name" go?
[10:12] <admcleod> tzounox: does the juju debug-log show anything more? its not doing something strange?
[10:13] <tzounox> i go this one ERROR juju.worker runner.go:223 exited "firewaller": machine 5 not provisioned
[10:13] <admcleod> brunogirin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1576750
[10:13] <mup> Bug #1576750: juju2 usability: many options have to be specified for every bootstrap <bootstrap> <juju-release-support> <jujuqa> <landscape> <usability> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576750>
[10:14] <admcleod> brunogirin: see the 3rd from last comment
[10:14] <admcleod> tzounox: i have seen this before but am struggling to recall why
[10:16] <admcleod> tzounox: which version of juju?
[10:16] <admcleod> brunogirin: does that help?
[10:16] <brunogirin> admcleod: thanks, that clarifies some of it! Is the tenant-name specified when I run juju bootstrap then?
[10:17] <tzounox> admcleod
[10:17] <tzounox> admcleod
[10:17] <tzounox> admcleod
[10:17] <tzounox> 1.25.5-trusty-amd64
[10:17] <admcleod> brunogirin: it looks like that should also go in the config
[10:17] <gnuoy> brunogirin, I have OS_TENANT_NAME env variable set, among others, when bootstrapping to point juju  at the tenant
[10:17] <admcleod> brunogirin: e.g https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/temp-release-notes, search for 'tenant-name' there
[10:19] <admcleod> brunogirin: but im guessing at this point so probably what gnuoy said :)
[10:19] <brunogirin> admcleod: ah right, it makes sense in the credentials!
[10:20] <brunogirin> admcleod: yes, I might do that for now but in the future I'll have multiple environment on that same cloud (UAT, prod, etc) so it's useful to be able to put it in a config file that can be used on bootstrap
[10:20] <admcleod> brunogirin: ah right ok
[10:21] <admcleod> tzounox: so.. yeah it was a bug that affected an older version. is this an environment that has been bootstrapped for a while, functional, and just stopped working?
[10:21] <admcleod> tzounox: it seems like perhaps lxd is having an issue provisioning machines, so perhaps theres a local resource issue?
[10:22] <tzounox> yeah this error appeared 2 days later and it is a local setup
[10:22] <brunogirin> admcleod: thanks for the help, I'll try all this and tell you what happens
[10:22] <tzounox> is there anything that I can do?
[10:22] <admcleod> brunogirin: no worries, interested to know
[10:23] <admcleod> tzounox: there is some 'lxd refresh' type command, im trying to find ..
[10:23] <brunogirin> admcleod: last question before that, the endpoint in the cloud config, is it the identity endpoint?
[10:27] <admcleod> brunogirin: i think its identity
[10:28] <brunogirin> admcleod: thanks, I'll try that then
[10:28] <admcleod> tzounox: i cant find what im looking for, but are you able to just restart the lxd service?
[10:29] <tzounox> i have done this before, i juju ssh into the service and then sudo reboot but it does not fixed it
[10:29] <tzounox> I have restart the node also and the hole system
[10:33] <admcleod> tzounox: does juju status say anything revealing about machine-0?
[10:34] <kjackal> I remember having this error in the past... "ImportError: cannot import name 'layer'" does anyone know what do I need to do to see the layers from an action?
[10:36] <tzounox> i got this from juju status
[10:36] <tzounox> cannot run instances: cannot run instances: gomaasapi: got
[10:36] <tzounox>       error back from server: 409 CONFLICT (No available node matches constraints:
[10:36] <tzounox>       zone=default)
[10:39] <admcleod> tzounox: have you tried to destroy and re-bootstrap the environment? (or is this not practical for you?)
[10:40] <tzounox> i have done it in the past but again i got the error after 2 days and it is very time consuming
[10:40] <tzounox> so its not actually an option
[10:41] <kjackal> tzounox: anything interesting under /var/log/lxc or /var/log/lxd ?
[10:42] <brunogirin> admcleod: result of my test: I get a beautiful go stack trace in openstack/provider.go
[10:42] <admcleod> tzounox: right - i understand. is upgrading to juju 2.0 an option?
[10:42] <admcleod> brunogirin: pastebin?
[10:43] <tzounox> i go this from /var/log/lxc
[10:43] <tzounox> lxc-start<PHONE_NUMBER>.634 ERROR    lxc_cgmanager - cgmanager.c:cgm_destroy:575 - Error connecting to cgroup manager
[10:44] <brunogirin> admcleod: http://pastebin.com/aQFfnnuj
[10:45] <admcleod> tzounox: do you have any more errors after that?
[10:46] <tzounox> no its only this
[10:47] <admcleod> tzounox: one recommendation is to install 'cgroupmanager' but i doubt thats going to help
[10:48] <tzounox> i should install it on the machine with the juju services?
[10:49] <admcleod> tzounox: on the lxd host
[10:49] <tzounox> and whats the other option that i have :)
[10:53] <admcleod> tzounox: well... there should be more people waking up soon (US time zone) who might be able to help with this
[10:53] <tzounox> ok thank you very much for your time
[10:54] <dimitern> brunogirin: hey there
[10:54] <admcleod> dimitern: so brunogirin is trying to bootstrap openstack and gets this: http://pastebin.com/aQFfnnuj
[10:54] <dimitern> brunogirin: you were having some issues with juju 2.0?
[10:54] <brunogirin> dimitern: hi, yes, I seem to struggle with bootstrapping OpenStack
[10:55] <dimitern> nasty! :/
[10:55] <admcleod> tzounox: no problem, ill see if i can find someone who might be able to help more
[10:55] <dimitern> brunogirin: what version of openstack is that if you know?
[10:56] <brunogirin> dimitern: no idea, it's those guys: http://www.datacentred.co.uk/
[10:57] <brunogirin> dimitern: according to the compute endpoint, it might be v2
[10:57] <dimitern> brunogirin: thanks, I'll have a look; and you're using the juju-2.0-beta8 release tarball ?
[10:57] <dimitern> brunogirin: or you build from source?
[10:57] <brunogirin> dimitern: yes 2.0-beta8 from xenial
[10:58] <brunogirin> dimitern: do you want me to file a launchpad bug with the cloud config in it?
[10:58] <dimitern> brunogirin: that will be great, thanks!
[10:59] <dimitern> brunogirin: I'll have a look what might be causing this
[11:01] <brunogirin> dimitern: thanks, I'm happy to create a user for you on that cloud if it helps find out what the problem is
[11:02] <admcleod> it looks like datacentred is running juno
[11:05] <brunogirin> dimitern: stupid question: how do you file a bug when ubuntu-bug tells you that juju-2.0 is not an official ubuntu package and the problem can't be reported?
[11:13] <brunogirin> dimitern: bug filed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/1592365
[11:13] <mup> Bug #1592365: Juju 2.0 crashes on bootstrap with datacentred.co.uk OpenStack cloud <juju-core (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592365>
[11:14] <dimitern> brunogirin: awesome! We'll track the progress there, thanks!
[11:14] <brunogirin> dimitern: thanks! If you need more info, please tell me and as I said, happy to give you access to the environment if it helps
[11:17] <dimitern> brunogirin: hey, can you try something first please? remove the config section in the datacenterd section of your clouds.yaml and try bootstrapping again?
[11:18] <dimitern> brunogirin: default config per cloud cannot be specified in the clouds.yaml as far as I know, and might be the reason of that panic (well, it shouldn't panic)
[11:19] <brunogirin> dimitern: same error; I got the default config example from 3rd comment before last in this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1576750
[11:19] <mup> Bug #1576750: juju2 usability: many options have to be specified for every bootstrap <bootstrap> <juju-release-support> <jujuqa> <landscape> <usability> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576750>
[11:21] <dimitern> brunogirin: oh, ok (news to me); can you try bootstrap with --debug and attach the log to the bug please (scrub secrets / keys before that, if any)?
[11:24] <brunogirin> dimitern: done
[11:29] <dimitern> brunogirin: thanks! That revealed the issue, I think
[11:29] <brunogirin> dimitern: excellent!
[11:30] <dimitern> brunogirin: please try using the endpoint with the version - https://compute.datacentred.io:5000/v2.0/ - as endpoint in your confing
[11:31] <dimitern> brunogirin: that should let bootstrap go further (hopefully complete)
[11:32] <brunogirin> dimitern: it did go further and is now finishing with an error that I'll paste in the bug report
[11:34] <brunogirin> dimitern: pasted
[11:34] <dimitern> brunogirin: thanks, looking..
[11:35] <dimitern> brunogirin: ok, that's more like it - it fails now because it needs the metadata for juju tools and cloud images
[11:35] <brunogirin> dimitern: OK so how do I provide it with that?
[11:36] <dimitern> brunogirin: please try following the docs for setting up juju on private clouds: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/howto-privatecloud
[11:42] <dimitern> brunogirin: instead of 'tools-metadata-url' though, use 'agent-metadata-url' (the doc needs updating)
[11:42] <brunogirin> dimitern: I'm reading through it and I struggle to understand what I need to do. Isn't that part of the config dependent on my cloud provider and how do I get the right info?
[11:43] <dimitern> brunogirin: basically, you need 2 things - agent metadata (the juju tools tarballs), which you can use 'sync-tools' to copy to a local dir from the official sources, and image-metadata-url (the cloud images, those need to match what you have as images on datacenterd)
[11:46] <dimitern> brunogirin: steps: 1) cd $HOME; mkdir -p juju-metadata/tools; juju sync-tools --local-dir=$HOME/juju-metadata/tools; 2) juju metadata generate-tools -d $HOME/juju-metadata/tools; 3) juju metadata validate-tools -d $HOME/juju-metadata/tools;
[11:48] <brunogirin> dimitern: thanks I'll try that; for the second part (images), do I need to provide a mapping from provider image IDs to series?
[11:49] <dimitern> brunogirin: then for the images, 4) juju metadata generate-image -u https://compute.datacentred.io:5000/v2.0/ -d $HOME/juju-metadata/images -a amd64 -i <nova-image-id>; 5) juju metadata validate-image (same args) to verify
[11:50] <brunogirin> dimitern: thanks! I'll try that and report back
[11:50] <dimitern> brunogirin: yeah, the "nova-image-id" must match for arch and series (e.g. amd64 ubuntu xenial)
[11:51] <dimitern> brunogirin: you should pass -s xenial (for example) to generate-image (and validate-image later), in addition to -i -d and -a
[12:44] <brunogirin> dimitern: I get the following error when I do juju metadata validate-tools: http://pastebin.com/TUnYsV6F
[12:47] <dimitern> brunogirin: I think you need to pass the -u (endpoint url) and -p openstack and -r (region name)
[12:48] <brunogirin> dimitern: for tools as well?
[12:48] <dimitern> brunogirin: yeah, see 'juju help metadata validate-tools'
[12:51] <brunogirin> dimitern: adding the series to all of this works, thanks
[12:52] <dimitern> brunogirin: great! so if validate-image also worked ok, you should be good to bootstrap
[12:55] <dimitern> brunogirin: would you do me a favor please? if you add a comment to the bug describing what commands you needed to run to set up images and tools, that will be extremely useful both for other users and for updating the docs properly for 2.0
[12:55] <brunogirin> dimitern: yes I'll do that
[12:55] <dimitern> brunogirin: awesome! thank you very much, and sorry for the troubles :)
[12:56] <brunogirin> dimitern: apparently, there's no metadata validate-image command so I'll skip that
[12:57] <dimitern> brunogirin: sorry, it's validate-images
[12:57] <dimitern> (but strangely 'generate-image' :()
[13:00] <brunogirin> dimitern: I assumeit's because you can create multiple images and validate them all
[13:01] <dimitern> brunogirin: hmm, good point!
[13:10] <brunogirin> dimitern: I get the same error when I do juju bootstrap and it looks like it doesn't check my local folder: http://pastebin.com/0VqPqYMX
[13:24] <dimitern> brunogirin: sorry, otp, will get back to you soon
[13:25] <brunogirin> dimitern: no worries :)
[13:25] <dimitern> brunogirin: try using "file:///home/<yourusername>/juju-metadata/tools" as "agent-metadata-url" and the same but with "/images" for "image-metadata-url"
[13:26] <dimitern> brunogirin: to pass these to bootstrap, use e.g. --config agent-metadata-url='file:///...' --config image-metadata-url='file:///..'
[13:31] <brunogirin> dimitern: working so far, it's running apt-get upgrade! thanks! I'll add the full set of commands that work to the ticket.
[13:31] <dimitern> brunogirin: great! I'm glad it finally worked ;)
[13:33] <brunogirin> dimitern: so am I :) What's the process to contribute out of the box support for new clouds so that others don't have to go through this?
[13:34] <rick_h_> jamespage: ping, invited you to a chat to get me up to speed on HEAT related stuff if you can do it tomorrow. Let me know if it's not a good time.
[13:35] <dimitern> brunogirin: our documentation can be improved - there's a link in the left menu below about contributing
[13:35] <brunogirin> dimitern: yes I saw that, once I've got it all working, I'll see if I can contribute some docs
[13:36] <dimitern> brunogirin: even if it's a rough draft, that's OK we have technical writers that will take care of formatting, etc.
[13:38] <brunogirin> dimitern: it was so close! But it eventually failed after starting Mongo still because it can't find images but this time on the controller it seems...
[13:39] <dimitern> brunogirin: can you paste? maybe the series / arch do not match?
[13:40] <brunogirin> I'll add the log to the ticket as it's quite long
[13:46] <brunogirin> dimitern: added to the bug with attached log file
[13:48] <rick_h_> lazyPower: got a sec?
[13:51] <dimitern> brunogirin: thanks!
[13:51] <lazyPower> rick_h_ certainly, whats up?
[13:51] <rick_h_> lazyPower: chef questions for you if you have a few to chat?
[13:51] <rick_h_> lazyPower: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick?authuser=0 if so
[14:20] <lazyPower> neiljerram hey o/ are you around
[14:32] <brunogirin> dimitern: I got it to work and can deploy charms now, however, it doesn't seem to expose them properly so I need to investigate that
[14:34] <dimitern> brunogirin: sweet! for exposing should pass the 'use-floating-ip' setting to true (at bootstrap or with `juju set-model-config use-floating-ip=true` (IIRC)
[14:38] <brunogirin> dimitern: I did that but the floating IP points to the Juju controller, not to the charm instance so when I go to that URL I get nothing and `juju status` still shows the internal IP
[14:43] <brunogirin> dimitern: do you need 2 floating IPs for it to work on OpenStack, one for Juju, one for the service you're trying to expose?
[14:43] <dimitern> brunogirin: use-floating-ip=true means juju will add one FIP per instance
[14:44] <dimitern> brunogirin: if you deploy a unit to the controller node and expose its service, you should be able to access it
[14:44] <brunogirin> dimitern: ah right, so my provider needs to allow me to do that! They limit me to one floating IP at the moment so I'll ask them to increase that.
[14:44] <dimitern> brunogirin: no, sorry - it's not that juju will add more than 1 FIP
[14:46] <dimitern> brunogirin: I'd suggest this - try `juju add-machine --series xenial` and once that machine is up, `juju add-unit <yourapp> --to <#>` (the newly added machine id, likely 1)
[14:46] <gennadiy> hi everybody, we are deploying windows(windows server 2012) machine with juju to openstack. so how to get password for this machine?
[14:46] <gennadiy> seems there are not cert with user credentials
[14:46] <gennadiy> so "nova get-password <instance-id> <private-key-path>" it does not work
[14:47] <dimitern> brunogirin: assuming you also did `juju expose <yourapp>` and `juju status` shows the added unit on the new machine is running and has open ports (e.g. 80/tcp), you should be able to access it
[14:48] <dimitern> gennadiy: can you ssh to a linux machine ok?
[14:48] <gennadiy> it's not a linux
[14:48] <gennadiy> it's windows
[14:49] <dimitern> gennadiy: ok, but can you start a linux instance and ssh into it ok?
[14:49] <gennadiy> sure
[14:49] <dimitern> gennadiy: if you keypair is set correctly you should be able to
[14:49] <rick_h_> gennadiy: so this is a hyperv on nova?
[14:50] <gennadiy> i have 10 machines with linux and 1 with windows
[14:50] <gennadiy> it's nova
[14:50] <brunogirin> dimitern: mmm, juju add-machine says that my new machine is in error
[14:51] <rick_h_> gennadiy: right so this is a nova compute instance on openstack you're trying to get into? Was it a juju deployed charm?
[14:51] <gennadiy> i use empty windows charm, just for testing
[14:51] <rick_h_> gennadiy: ah ok
[14:51] <dimitern> brunogirin: what's the error?
[14:52] <gennadiy> machine is created - 40         started <IP_ADDRESS> 9b003da2-bc22-41e3-81ad-def9485df4d2 win2012r2 nova
[14:52] <gennadiy> but i can't connect to it - juju ssh 40 doesn't work
[14:52] <brunogirin> dimitern: juju status just shows state to be error and no explanation, not do I have any log in juju debug-log
[14:52] <gennadiy> also i don't know password for rdp.
[14:52] <dimitern> brunogirin: try juju status --format=yaml for more detail
[14:52] <gennadiy> metadata: Key Name - None
[14:53] <brunogirin> dimitern: ah right, it now says "IP allocation over quota." so I need to ask them for additional IPs
[14:55] <gennadiy> when i create windows machine in openstack manually i can provide pem file and after that i can use "nova get-password <instance-id> <private-key-path>" to get password. but i don't how to do it in juju case
[15:00] <dimitern> brunogirin: yeah, that's it :)
[15:03] <roadmr> hey folks, what's the story about creating new charms using ansible integration? e.g. charmhelpers.contrib.ansible.AnsibleHooks? is it still OK to do so, or should we move toward something else?
[15:03] <dimitern> gennadiy: I'd suggest asking somebody from cloudbase (I've pinged them about your question in #juju-dev)
[15:03] <gennadiy> dimitern, thank
[15:04] <gennadiy> *thank you
[15:05] <dimitern> gennadiy: np, if you get no response, I'd suggest sending a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to ask
[15:52] <gennadiy> dimitern: have you got any updates about windows machine? i don't have access #juju-dev
[15:53] <lazyPower> gennadiy they haven't responded, but they are also far eastern europe
[15:53] <lazyPower> romania i believe
[15:55] <lazyPower> its past EOD (6:55 pm) for that timezone, so you may want to go ahead and ping the list
[15:56] <lazyPower> also, it wont let you join #juju-dev?
[16:08] <rick_h_> balloons: do you have any idea for gennadiy in our tests as to if we deploy a windows application how we log into the server at all?
[16:08] <rick_h_> alexisb: do you recall who might be idling from cloudbase that would know? ^
[16:12]  * balloons looks at scrollback
[16:12] <lazyPower> rick_h_ - from what i recall there was an openssl requirement in maas, you add the tls key to use rdp
[16:12] <rick_h_> lazyPower: hmm, so this is openstack deployed sample windows charm.
[16:12] <lazyPower> oh right
[16:12] <rick_h_> lazyPower: so I'm wondering what we do to get into that then
[16:13] <lazyPower> sorry, I missed that very important detail...
[16:14] <lazyPower> i'm not seeing anything relevant in a cursory google search either
[16:17] <gennadiy> another question related to juju. can we manage openstack networks from juju? also can we manage NICs? because for some machines we need to have 2-3 NICs from different networks
[16:24] <balloons> sounds like a job for maas
[16:25] <alexisb> rick_h_, I would start with gabriel he should be on juju-dev
[16:29] <rick_h_> alexisb: k ty
[16:30] <rick_h_> ,
[16:38] <Prabakaran> My charm uses MySQL database charm and I am developing my charm as layered charm. To connect with MySQL database my charm uses MySQL interface. here my requirement is I will have to create a database running mysql commands (meaning MySQL database in the different container). Is it possible for me to run mysql command from the remote container (where my charm is installed)?
[16:39] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - if you have the mysql client tools available to you, you certainly can. You'll get the data to build a connection string from the interface, which includes a database, username/password, address and port.
[16:39] <Prabakaran> Can u please explain me in detail?
[16:40] <Prabakaran> how to make use of it in my charm?
[16:41] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - so in your layered consumer of mysql, you need to include the mysql interface layer in your layer.yaml, update your metadata.yaml with the requires: declaration, and use that relation name:  @when('mysql.available') - install the mysql client tools, and execute your database migration from there using the mysql tooling (or substitute with your language tooling)
[16:42] <Prabakaran> k.. i will to explore this.. and do u have any example charm for me to understand?
[16:42] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - there's a walkthrough by example of something similar here: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/developer-layer-example
[16:51] <jose> bdx: lemme see if I can reproduce that bug
[16:58] <Prabakaran> Hi Lazypower , i just referred this link what you sent, it just uses the database and it is not running any mysql scripts. And adding to this question how ssh works between two containers..if so, we need to exchange ssh keys between two containers?
[16:59] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - you dont need to ssh with the mysql connection string. you can install mysql-client apt package and run mysql -u db.username() -p db.password() db.database()   << prabakarans_mysql_script.sql
[17:00] <Prabakaran> can you help me with an example>
[17:02] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - i dont have a ready made example off hand, no
[17:02] <lazyPower> Prabakaran are you familiar with executing mysql scripts remotely with the mysql cli?
[17:03] <Prabakaran> no i am not.. i will have to explore
[17:03] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10676432/how-to-execute-an-remote-sql-in-mysql-command-line
[17:03] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - are you writing your layer in bash or python?
[17:03] <Prabakaran> in python..
[17:04] <lazyPower> ok, the path to get from a-z will be a little long winded, but bear with me and i'll guide you on irc. i'm multi-tasking so expect long pauses
[17:04] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - add layer:apt and interface:mysql to your layer.yaml to start. confirm when ready for next step
[17:05] <Prabakaran> ya sure
[17:06] <Prabakaran> i am using ibm-base layer which uses apt....i need to use apt here ?
[17:08] <Prabakaran> i have written layer.yaml
[17:09] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - if you have layer:apt in a lower layer you do not need to re-include it, no
[17:09] <Prabakaran> i have written it
[17:10] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - define the mysql requires relationship in metadata.yaml:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17331636/
[17:12] <Prabakaran> ya i have written metadata.yaml
[17:19] <Prabakaran> metadata.yaml is http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332041/
[17:20] <Prabakaran> Lazypower i am ready for next steps..
[17:20] <Prabakaran> meanwhile
[17:21] <lazyPower> Prabakaran : add the reactive code to your layer - http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332169/
[17:23] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - then build, deploy, and debug the charm interactively. That code is incomplete, and i left documentation around whats happening on each line. But it will attempt to run the sql, against the remote mysql unit. If you have multiple units in the conversation, or encounter the code path twice (there's no @when_not decorator as a tip) it will likely error. So i got you far enough to work with the databag and see one general workflow.
[17:24] <lazyPower> sorry, s/databag/interface
[17:30] <RAJITH> Hi, I have
[17:31] <RAJITH> I have two charms both on different machine, if I need to delete few files in unit 1 from unit 2, please let me know how I can do
[17:32] <Prabakaran> Since i am new to python .. what these two LOC's does "    # Assemble the command     cmd = "mysql -h mysql://{0}:{1} -u {2} -p{3} {4} << {5}"     cmd.format(mysql.host(),mysql.port(), mysql.username(), mysql.password())"
[17:32] <Prabakaran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332169/
[17:34] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - that is string manipulation. We're assigning position in the string to replace with variables. In this case, we are surfacing the data coming from the mysql interface, to replace those inline
[17:36] <lazyPower> mysql -h mysql://<IP_ADDRESS>:3600 -u chumba -pwomba -d ibm_was_here << sql-template.sql  -- is what that string turns into.
[17:36] <Prabakaran> same way is it possible for me to write a this command 	mysql> use pac; 	mysql> source /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-pac-helper-0/charm/files/archives/dbschema/DBschema/MySQL/egodata.sql; 	mysql> source /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-pac-helper-0/charm/files/archives/dbschema/DBschema/MySQL/lsfdata.sql; 	mysql> source /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-pac-helper-0/charm/files/archives/dbschema/DBschema/MySQL/lsf_sql.sql; 	mysql> source /var/lib/juju
[17:36] <Prabakaran> ya i got it
[17:36] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - that assumes you are on the mysql host, in the mysql cli from that paste.   What i offered was a path to remotely execute the database scripts.
[17:37] <lazyPower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332728/ - i also had some errors in there, and i think i missed the database flag, check the mysql cli on the host and adjust as necessary :)
[17:40] <Prabakaran> i got little bit.. but i have some sql script file... like egodata.sql and lsfdata.sql
[17:40] <Prabakaran> i want to execute those scripts
[17:40] <Prabakaran> can u please tel me where i can include these in this code what u sent  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332728/
[17:42] <Prabakaran> is it under cmd section in the line number 17 and 18 http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332728/?
[17:45] <Prabakaran> manually i will be running in mysql command promt like "source <script file name>". I am not sure where and how i need to implement in the code  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332728
[17:47] <Prabakaran> hi <lazyPower>
[17:48] <Prabakaran> manually i will be running in mysql command promt like "source <script file name>". I am not sure where and how i need to implement in the code  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17332728
[17:48] <lazyPower> Prabakaran - then generate additional commands to execute those files in the matter outlined in the reactive code i sent?
[17:49] <lazyPower> Prabakaran i'm about to head out for lunch, give what i sent a go, and try to sort it with remote execution instead of assuming you'll be attached over ssh to the mysql cli.
[17:51] <Prabakaran> ys sure
[17:51] <Prabakaran> i will try this
[17:51] <Prabakaran> and come back to you if i have any more doubts
[18:41] <petevg> cory_fu: I've got a philosophical question about smoke tests for you (or for anyone else who wants to chime in). If a test requires more than one unit of a given service to be deployed, is it proper to code it up as a smoke test? Or is it better to just run it with the other amulet-based integration tests?
[18:42] <petevg> My inclination is to say the latter, because a smoke test is an action that you run against a specific unit, and I wouldn't expect it to require me to do some separate action, like spinning up other units.
[18:42] <cory_fu> petevg: The latter.  A smoke-test should be something that you can run on each unit to determine that it's functioning as expected
[18:43] <petevg> That makes sense. The problem is that kind of blocks me writing smoke tests for Zookeeper -- pretty much anything interesting that you can do to test Zookeeper requires that you deploy multiple Zookeeper nodes :-/
[18:43] <cory_fu> The smoke-test could perhaps determine if it's part of a cluster and test that it can communicate with the cluster, for instance, but it should not depend on the cluster
[18:43] <lazyPower> you could put the smoke test in a bundle...
[18:43] <lazyPower> which makes sense in this case
[18:43] <lazyPower> logstash is useless by itself, so all the comprehensive tests live in the bundle deploying the additional components
[18:43] <petevg> lazyPower: the other piece of this is that I'm trying to make a smoke test that can live independently of the charm, in an upstream project.
[18:43] <cory_fu> lazyPower: I don't think that's a smoke-test in that case, it's a bundle or integration test
[18:44] <lazyPower> fair point cory_fu
[18:44] <cory_fu> To me, a smoke-test is something akin to a health check.  Sort of a "am I up and able to perform my role" check
[18:44] <petevg> Agreed. The tricky bit is that Zookeeper's role is mainly to talk to other Zookeepers.
[18:45] <cory_fu> But it is perhaps more comprehensive than a health check, or maybe takes a bit longer (though it shouldn't take too long, eitherR)
[18:45] <petevg> So smoke testing it is hard to disentangle from deploying multiple instances of it.
[18:46] <cory_fu> petevg: I would say make the smoke-test have some conditional logic in it.  If it's deployed by itself, just make sure that the service is up and running and can handle requests.  If it detects a cluster (ensemble), then do some additonal checks to make sure it can work with its peers properly
[18:47] <petevg> cory_fu: That sounds reasonable.
[18:47] <petevg> lazyPower, cory_fu: thx for the thoughts. I think I have a better idea about what I need to do.
[18:53] <kwmonroe> smokes could also be as simple as "is the zk init script present, is the zk java process running as the correct user, is the port open".
[18:54] <kwmonroe> we've hit plenty of errors where just knowing the right process/port was what we thought it should be.
[19:05] <lazyPower> hey cory_fu - wanna see something fun? :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/17336222/ <- thats output of charms.reactive get_states on a k8s leader
[19:14] <cory_fu> lazyPower: That's fair number of states.  :)
[19:15] <lazyPower> Yeah, i was debugging yesterday and that struck me as a heap :)   But there's really a lot going on in here.
[19:33] <cory_fu> lazyPower: https://github.com/juju/plugins/pull/67
[20:04] <lazyPower> cory_fu lgtm - merged
[20:06] <cory_fu> lazyPower: :)  https://github.com/juju/plugins/issues/63 should be resolved now
[20:06] <lazyPower> nice
[22:00] <magicaltrout> the nature of app containers make me sad when it comes to networking. Working in a non-juju docker environment is like pulling teeth when you want stuff to communicate with each other
[22:05] <lazyPower> magicaltrout - i too feel your pain
[22:09] <magicaltrout> thanks lazyPower ! ;)
[22:09] <lazyPower> magicaltrout - i just revised layer:flannel, and i'm still feeling like we can get more punch out of sdn than what i'm currently doing.


 Monkey Island, Sam&Max, Full Throttle, DOTT.
[22:50] <m0nkey_> I've played the Monkey Island remastered, I replayed pretty much everything else.
[22:51] <m0nkey_> TellTail games did a new Monkey Island. They do very well.
[22:51] <m0nkey_> Just wish I brought my old games collection with me to Canada
[22:57] <daftykins> d'aww, surely most of that can be obtained via emulated means these days?
[23:01] <ali1234> !info scummvm
[23:01] <m0nkey_> Yeah, SCUMM pretty much takes care of it all
[23:09]  * popey wants scummvm on his ubuntu phone
[23:18] <daftykins> lul
[23:25] <ali1234> well it's SDL, so you better make a way to package SDL games in click packages...
[23:26] <popey> you'd have to bundle sdl in, until sdl lands in the platform - which it might not
[23:26] <ali1234> and speaking of SDL games on phones, who wants to try something?
[23:26] <daftykins> that kinda thing seems more like the thing that's fun to get working but once it is it's not something i'd continue with :>
[23:28] <popey> ali1234: sure, what?
[23:29] <ali1234> a demo for android
[23:29] <ali1234> if you have a hardware keyboard you might even be able to play it
[23:30] <popey> i cant find my usb to go cable actually
[23:31] <ali1234> wow, it actually works
[23:32] <popey> is this your 3d racer?
[23:32] <ali1234> no
[23:32] <popey> well, happy to test stuff
[23:32] <ali1234> it's my puzzlefighter game
[23:33] <ali1234> i'm warming up for porting the racer with something easier
[23:34] <popey> do you have an apk? and does it have x86 support?
[23:35] <ali1234> yes and maybe
[23:35] <ali1234> i think it's a fat apk
[23:35] <popey> k
[23:35] <ali1234> no idea if it will work tho
[23:35] <popey> i have armhf and x86 tablets handy
[23:35] <ali1234> http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/SDLActivity-debug.apk
[23:36] <ali1234> controls are WASDXC
[23:36] <ali1234> spam X to actually play, you are on the left
[23:36] <ali1234> X and C are forward / backward in the menu, but the menu doesn't render
[23:36] <ali1234> it does make sounds though
[23:38] <ali1234> so spam C to go back to attract mode
[23:39] <popey> i have no kb
[23:39] <popey> and no osk
[23:39] <ali1234> it will just run attract mode then
[23:39] <popey> oh
[23:39] <popey> oddly i see only one play area
[23:39] <ali1234> probably a resolution issue
[23:39] <popey> but when i took a screenshot another play area appeared
[23:39] <ali1234> it's meant for 1280x720 and should be locked to landscape mode
[23:40] <popey> yes, locked to landscape
[23:40] <popey> my tab is 1920x1200 i think
[23:40] <ali1234> hmm... no idea what would happen in that case
[23:40] <popey> https://imgur.com/RPdGaXB
[23:40] <popey> all the purple is black
[23:40] <ali1234> hmm
[23:40] <popey> the play area on the left is invisible
[23:41] <ali1234> right, so my desktop code that assumes that it gets the window size it asked for needs work
[23:41] <ali1234> do you get sound?
[23:41] <popey> yes
[23:42] <popey> some odd flickering inside some of the tiles
[23:42] <ali1234> is the framerate okay? should run 60fps without stuttering at all
[23:42] <ali1234> the odd flickering is intentional?
[23:42] <popey> like lightning inside one of the tiles that has a coloured centre and silver surround
[23:43] <ali1234> yes that is intentional
[23:43] <popey> ok
[23:43] <ali1234> you place those blocks next to matching colour normal blocks to explode them
[23:43] <popey> blocks are above the top
[23:43] <ali1234> the one that changes colour is the magic "blows up everything" block
[23:43] <popey> a video would probably help here
[23:43] <ali1234> yes that is also intentional
[23:43]  * popey fetches his iphone
[23:43] <ali1234> normally you wouldn't be able to see that
[23:44] <ali1234> the way the game works, you only lose if the fourth column fills up
[23:44] <ali1234> nothing else matters
[23:44] <ali1234> and blocks are supposed to fall in from off the top of the screen
[23:44] <popey> i pressed back in the game and it said "unfortunately SDLGame has stopped"
[23:44] <ali1234> yeah, known issue
[23:45] <ali1234> so it's meant to look like this, more or less: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EExQc4s9B8
[23:47] <popey> i get no title screen
[23:47] <popey> no background
[23:47] <popey> looks like tetrinet
[23:47] <ali1234> yes, menu and background aren't ported to GLES yet
[23:48] <ali1234> the gameplay is quite different to tetris
[23:54] <popey> ali1234: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLhAZunjQg
[23:55] <ali1234> hmm... that looks weird
[23:56] <ali1234> getting the window the right size will probably help with that


[03:10] <Kir> They're not joking when they say it doesn't work :)
[03:26] <hydrogen> go figure..
[03:31] <Sonicadvance1> :P
[05:04] <cps1966> ! seamonkey
[05:04] <ubotu> Seamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011
[05:59] <Powerking89670> night all
[08:12] <`23meg> Hobbsee, is this any good? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600644
[10:30] <Blake__>  Welcome to #ubuntu+1 "Home of the Hardy Heron" | This channel is for Hardy disc
[10:30] <Blake__> 10:29 [ arpu         ] [ Eq|work       ] [ MetaBot        ] [ Seveas       ]
[10:30] <Blake__> 10:29 [ assasukasse  ] [ fraco         ] [ mloki_         ] [ sittisal_    ]
[10:30] <rsk> ?
[10:30] <Blake__> 10:29 [ astro76      ] [ fredrin       ] [ Mohero         ] [ Sonicadvance1]
[10:30] <Blake__> 10:29 [ avatar_      ] [ Frost^        ] [ mrsno          ] [ SpudDogg     ]
[10:30] <Blake__> Sorry
[10:30] <rsk> stop it Blake__
[10:30] <Blake__> Didnt meen to
[10:30] <Sonicadvance1> beh?
[10:30] <Blake__> New to IRC
[10:30] <Blake__> Trying to work out where i can get some help for a ubunto problem lol
[10:30] <Hobbsee> #ubuntu
[10:30] <rsk> #ubuntu
[15:35] <`23meg> Hobbsee, does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600644 look good, and what would you add?
[15:36] <Hobbsee> `23meg: if that's the same as before, that the daily cds are likely unusable, at elast until alpha 1
[15:36] <`23meg> k, I'll add that
[15:37] <lemsx1> i upgraded my PC to Hardy and now it doesn't boot!
[15:37] <lemsx1> :-P
[15:37] <lemsx1> just kidding...
[15:38] <lemsx1> that's something that people will say very soon...
[15:38] <`23meg> Hobbsee, added
[15:41] <Hobbsee> cool
[16:19] <amit_> python in Ubuntu supports ucs2 ?? or ucs4 by default
[16:28] <rsk> amit_: #ubuntu
[17:52] <Powerking89670> hey all: how do you install ALL compiz features? Do I need to make a seperate install of compiz?
[17:52] <Powerking89670> nvm, wrong channel :p
[17:52] <crdlb> Powerking89670: you're using hardy?
[17:53] <Powerking89670> no: I'm using gutsy, I forgot to change to #ubuntu after the change to the channels was made
[17:54] <Powerking89670> sorry about my stupidity
[17:54] <Powerking89670> :p
[20:40] <purpleposeidon> What's the name of ubuntu+2?
[20:40] <joumetal> name is not announced yet. ubuntu+1 will be hardy heron.
[20:41] <purpleposeidon> awww....


[02:41] <radon_> on
[02:57] <radon_> later
[07:12] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:19] <dholbach> hey iulian
[10:56] <mitya57> Can anybody test if you are able to load your passwords with python-keyring from sid/saucy?
[10:56] <mitya57> I.e. with any command from ubuntu-dev-tools


[09:52] <MauroGaspari[m]> Hey guys, is there something specific you want to be tested on 20.10? I have one install of it using the development branch. Been using for a few months, wanted to use it for bug reporting but... you make my life hard. No bugs found so far 😄
[14:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: Ha! That
[14:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> 's actually good news!
[14:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> Basically, use it, report bugs as they appear (crashes, etc).
[14:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> Got nothing specific.


[16:44] <Cheesehead> Ubuntu Global Jam ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam ) will be in 6 weeks - Fri/Sat/Sun Sept 2-4
[16:46] <Cheesehead> Any interest in an Ubuntu Hour in MKE during that time?
[16:47] <Cheesehead> Unrelated question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour shows a monthly Ubuntu Hour in Madison. Does it really occur?
[23:22] <h00k> Cheesehead: indeed it does in Madison, also, we've tried to do some stuff for Global Jam but nobody showed up, I'm willing to try it again!
[23:22] <h00k> Cheesehead: and probably, regarding MKE hour!
[23:23] <Cheesehead> I suppose the Madison Ubuntu Hour should show up on the LoCo monthly reports.
[23:23] <h00k> It could, yeah
[23:23] <Cheesehead> I will add it.
[23:24] <Cheesehead> I'll do the barest planning for a MKE hour and post it to the mailing list
[23:31] <Cheesehead> For the reports going forward, it would be quite helpful to know how many people show up to the MSN Ubuntu Hour
[23:32] <Cheesehead> any notable events that took place, etc
[23:33] <h00k> Cheesehead: I can get that from MADLUG that actually hosts that hour and forward that on
[23:35] <Cheesehead> Ah, if it's their event, then I see no need for us to take credit for it...
[23:35] <Cheesehead> So I won't add it to our reports.
[23:36] <h00k> Cheesehead: they are hosting it, but they are doing 'Ubuntu Hour'
[23:36] <h00k> we're working together on it
[23:36] <h00k> douglasawh-work: ^ is this correct?
[23:36] <h00k> also, nickmoeck_, you're in Mil, yes?


[18:31] <gahan> can you opt out of systemd?
[18:33] <nacc> gahan: not easily, afaict, with >= 16.04
[18:34] <gahan> what has the world come to ;-) thanks


[04:45] <SheldorIsBackOnl> fgdxfghdfgh
[04:46] <SheldorIsBackOnl> lj
[04:46] <SheldorIsBackOnl>  sdfasdfasdf
[04:46] <tgm4883> alffadgha;shga;wligha;
[05:49] <bkerensa> tgm4883: have people been flooding?
[05:49] <bkerensa> idk seeing weird stuff in my scrollback
[06:44] <tgm4883> bkerensa, IDK, I do have op though
[06:44] <tgm4883> what are you seeing in scrollback?
 [04:45:02] fgdxfghdfgh
 [04:45:26] lj
 [04:45:45]  sdfasdfasdf
[06:45] <bkerensa> tgm4883: ^
[06:46] <bkerensa> and the same thing from 7 other nicks yesterday
[06:46] <bkerensa> ;0
[06:46] <tgm4883> bkerensa, weird
[06:46] <tgm4883> I'll keep an eye out
[06:47] <bkerensa> tgm4883: I think might be wou students
[20:43] <bkerensa> blkperl: any news on colo?
[20:43] <bkerensa> :D
[20:43] <blkperl> bkerensa: I have no idea what I was suppose to do on that
[20:43] <blkperl> ill add it to the team agenda
[20:44] <bkerensa> blkperl: I know what you were :) invite nathwill down to drop the box on rack ? :P
[20:44] <bkerensa> kk
[21:06] <bkerensa>  nathwill: So I guess Cloudflare has officially surpassed the amount of traffic that Yahoo gets
[21:06] <bkerensa> =o
[21:06] <nathwill> iiinteresting
[21:07] <nathwill> does that include ddos traffic? :P
[21:39] <nathwill> it's also not especially surprising that a CDN would have more 'requests' than a website
[21:39] <nathwill> i'm sure akamai has more 'traffic' as measured by hits than anyone


[08:08] <kvalo> good morning
[08:16] <MacSlow> Happy new year everybody!
[08:18] <didrocks> hey MacSlow! Happy new year to you too!
[08:18] <didrocks> kvalo as well, how are you? :)
[08:19] <MacSlow> hey didrocks!
[08:27] <cozziemoto> happy new guys... sorry up all night  so slow to respong :)
[08:33] <kvalo> didrocks, MacSlow: happy new your guys
[08:34] <kvalo> *year :)
[08:34] <MacSlow> hey cozziemoto, kvalo!
[08:34] <kvalo> didrocks: I'm good, thanks. and you?
[08:34] <MacSlow> kvalo, cozziemoto: thanks!
[08:34] <didrocks> kvalo: I'm good as well, thanks :) No cold yet \o/
[08:34] <MacSlow> kvalo, still buried in snow over there?
[08:35] <kvalo> didrocks: that's good :)
[08:36] <kvalo> MacSlow: oh yeah, at least 30 cm of snow here
[08:37] <MacSlow> kvalo, we're slowly getting rid of it here... I hope it'll stay that way
[08:53] <dbarth> still fighting with that odd crasher from before christmas
[08:54] <dbarth> didrocks: i think that was related to the compiz issue where unity couldn't start at the beginning of the session, some race with gsettings or so
[08:54] <didrocks> dbarth: gconf you mean?
[08:54] <dbarth> well yes
[08:54] <didrocks> (well, the gconf backend to be precise)
[08:54] <didrocks> yeah, I talked this morning to smspillaz about it he'll have a look at it to fix it properly
[08:55] <dbarth> ah ok, i was going to ask
[09:34] <kvalo> didrocks: hey, I need some help. unity doesn't start for me anymore
[09:35] <kvalo> didrocks: I saw this sometime before xmas for the first time
[09:35] <didrocks> kvalo: does compiz start?
[09:35] <kvalo> let me check
[09:35] <kvalo> didrocks: yeah, I see compiz with ps
[09:36] <didrocks> kvalo: apt-cache policy compiz
[09:36] <kvalo> didrocks: all I see is the background image and I can get a (nautilus?) menu with a right click
[09:37] <kvalo> I need to install sshd first, will take a minute
[09:37] <didrocks> ok :)
[09:41] <kvalo> didrocks: compiz:
[09:41] <kvalo>   Installed: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5
[09:41] <kvalo>   Candidate: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5
[09:41] <kvalo>   Version table:
[09:41] <kvalo>  *** 1:<IP_ADDRESS>+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5 0
[09:42] <didrocks> hum, sounds good, weird
[09:42] <kvalo> didrocks: I even created a new user, no luck
[09:42] <didrocks> kvalo: can you try unity --reset in a tty please?
[09:43] <kvalo> didrocks: haha, unity package was missing
[09:43] <didrocks> :)
[09:43] <kvalo> didrocks: sorry dude!
[09:43] <didrocks> no worry kvalo ;)
[09:43] <kvalo> for some reason ubuntu-desktop package was removed :/
[09:46] <didrocks> there were something weird with dee or gir*, I had to upgrade that manually apt-get install <conflicting package>
[09:47] <kvalo> didrocks: and now to my next problem :) I don't see menus most of the time. I talked with njpatel earlier and this is a known issue. but do you know if there's a bug report about this? I would like to follow the status
[09:48] <didrocks> yeah, it's a bug in compiz, smspillaz is aware about it
[09:48] <kvalo> didrocks: is there a bug report?
[09:48] <didrocks> not sure of a bug report right now, I filed one but it seems we got hundreds of compiz bugs this holidays, I still have to finish my bug emails before telling you
[09:49] <didrocks> nobody triaged compiz ones, unfortunately
[09:49] <kvalo> didrocks: that's bad :( let me know if you want me to file a bug
[09:50] <didrocks> kvalo: first, look for it if there is one, but I still have more than 1000+ bug emails so, I'm not sure to be able to answer you today
[09:51] <kvalo> didrocks: ok, I'll try to search it. thanks
[09:51] <didrocks> yw
[10:11] <didrocks> kvalo: bug #690461
[10:11] <kvalo> didrocks: I don't see menus _at all_
[10:12] <didrocks> kvalo: oh ok, I have the same behavior sometimes, depends on login, right
[10:12] <kvalo> didrocks: exactly
[10:12] <didrocks> kvalo: there should be a bug about it as well
[10:12] <kvalo> didrocks: like 1 out of 10 logins I might see menus
[10:13] <didrocks> it's worse than here then
[10:53] <kvalo> didrocks: yeah, it's really bad
[12:25] <kamstrup> didrocks: I need some divine insight... Since Karmic I've been haunted by a most annoying bug in the installer, making it impossible to install Ubuntu on my netbook. I finally found grokked the issue but don't know how to fix it - so I wondered if you could point me to the right guy?
[12:25] <kamstrup> The problem is that the installer believes it's running from sda1, but really it runs from sdb1
[12:26] <didrocks> kamstrup: invoke evan or cjwatson :)
[12:26] <didrocks> hum, hard drive issue, cjwatson is your man :)
[12:26] <didrocks> so, you have no sda?
[12:26] <kamstrup> didrocks: I do... that's my normal hd
[12:26] <didrocks> or it's a cdrom drive?
[12:27] <didrocks> oh, the cdrom is sdb :)
[12:27] <kamstrup> didrocks: for some odd reason the installer detects my hd as sda1 and the usb stick as sdb1
[12:27] <kamstrup> didrocks: it's a netbook
[12:27] <kamstrup> so no cd
[12:28] <didrocks> kamstrup: I saw some netbook with cd… but yeah, I read to fast. sorry :)
[12:28] <didrocks> ok, that's weird as it seems to only affect ubiquity and the gparted switch has been made before karmic
[12:29] <kamstrup> didrocks: yeah, I'm really stumped as well
[12:29] <didrocks> ping cjwatson, he'll certainly shed some light on this
[12:30] <kamstrup> didrocks: I pinged cjwatson - he's back from holidays tomorrow, so i'll figure it out with him
[12:30] <ScottK> kamstrup: There is #ubuntu-installer for these kinds of disucssions.
[12:30] <kamstrup> ScottK: thanks, I'll try there then
[14:28] <coz_> hey all
[14:40] <jcastro> wb didrocks!
[14:41] <jcastro> didrocks: any new bitesizes coming in?
[14:41] <didrocks> hey jcastro! Happy new year :)
[14:41] <didrocks> jcastro: well, I know let the dx team triaging their bug and do more work than spending time on this
[14:41] <jcastro> heh
[14:41] <didrocks> the holidays were a good moment to take that decision :)
[14:41] <jcastro> I see we are off to a good start!
[14:42] <didrocks> 700+ unity bugmails was too much for catching up in addition to other bugmails and lists
[15:39] <lamalex> Is anyone else getting bzr crashes on pretty much every operation?
[15:42] <cyphermox> lamalex, yep
[15:42] <cyphermox> you may want to install 2.7.1-0ubuntu4... here this version works.
[15:42] <cyphermox> my apologies, I forgot to mention python2.7 for that version number ;)
[15:43] <cyphermox> I'm not sure if it breaks other stuff though :/
[15:56] <lamalex> cyphermox, is that a downgrade or ppa or something?
[15:58] <didrocks> lamalex: hopefully, launchpad has a good memory: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/python2.7 :)
[15:58] <bratsche> Hmm, I have 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 and my bzr seems to be quite broken.
[15:58] <lamalex> ah, that's actually the one i have too
[16:01] <dbarth__> lamalex: i think didrocks was sending us a subliminal message earlier today ;)
[16:02] <lamalex> dbarth__, hm?
[16:02] <dbarth__> 24 new bugs, not that bad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
[16:02] <lamalex> hah
[16:02] <lamalex> I'm working on them ;)
[16:02] <dbarth__> 30 more if you count downstream: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
[16:02] <lamalex> something in my room smells /really/  bad
[16:03] <bratsche> :/
[16:03] <lamalex> i moved into this room less than a week ago, I have no idea what it could even be
[16:04] <lamalex> maybe I accidentally packed something perishable into a box
[16:04] <didrocks> dbarth__: there is also the package ones
[16:04] <didrocks> dbarth__: same amount approx
[16:05] <dbarth__> yep
[16:05] <didrocks> dbarth__: not a subliminal message, just that one of my new year resolution is more hacking less bug triaging :)
[16:05] <dbarth__> DBO: are there more bugs that were fix-released in https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.2.8 ?
[16:06] <DBO> looking
[16:06] <didrocks> oh 3.2.8 is the current release? maybe moving pending target to next one
[16:06] <dbarth__> ie, can you update the bugs statuses among those still not fixed and let me know which one to move to this week
[16:06] <dbarth__> DBO: ^^
[16:08] <DBO> just one...
[16:08]  * DBO sighs
[16:08] <DBO> hopefully I can get some of the little shits out of the way soon
[16:11] <lamalex> DBO, here's a good one to fix, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/696388 ;)
[16:11] <DBO> fudge monkeys
[16:11] <DBO> okay, will look at
[16:14] <lamalex> it's driving me nuts
[16:14] <lamalex> other than that unity on dual screens is pretty baller
[16:14] <lamalex> some small annoyances but "it works" which is pretty ok
[16:17] <cyphermox> lamalex, DBO, bug 696388 seems related to what I'm doing right now
[16:17] <DBO> cyphermox, what are you doing right now?
[16:18] <cyphermox> DBO, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/675862
[16:18] <DBO> yes its related indeed :)
[16:18] <cyphermox> getting the panel (and the launcher, since it's the same thing that happens in the other direction) to not span across monitors ;)
[16:18] <DBO> let me know when/if you fix that :)
[16:19] <cyphermox> I have it almost done... just got some issue redrawing when sizes changes
[16:19] <lamalex> yes please
[16:19] <lamalex> that's the other big annoyance
[16:19] <cyphermox> otherwise, when unity starts it does the job fine ;)
[16:19] <cyphermox> right now I got the panels and launchers to react to the mouse where they should be, but it's not actually getting drawn in that spot :/
[16:20] <DBO> cyphermox, killer :P
[16:20] <lamalex> yeah man, keep rocking
[16:20] <cyphermox> any help or hints will be much appreciated ;)
[16:22] <lamalex> "do it right next time"
[16:22] <lamalex> that's my hint
[16:23] <cyphermox> heheh
[16:23] <lamalex> i would look but python is broken and I can't check out unity :\
[16:24] <cyphermox> lamalex, didrocks also mentioned doing python2.6 /usr/bin/bzr should work, IIRC
[16:24] <lamalex> oh really?
[16:24] <lamalex> didrocks, you are the man
[16:24] <lamalex> I would probably be dead without you
[16:24] <cyphermox> but YMMV if 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 doesn't work for you... maybe bzr has been uploaded to fix the issue and now you really need the new python :)
[16:25] <lamalex> i do updated regularly
[16:28] <lamalex> wow firefox test pilot tests are driving me crazy
[16:40] <lamalex> How close is banshee to landing by default?
[16:40] <lamalex> (or hasi t)
[16:40] <lamalex> cyphermox, ok I checked out unity
[16:41] <lamalex> do you have a branch of your code? I can take a look if you want
[16:47] <cyphermox> lamalex, not quite up to date, hold on (building right now)
[16:48] <lamalex> k
[16:59] <cyphermox> lamalex, lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor
[16:59] <lamalex> Hi API
[16:59] <API> lamalex, hi
[17:00] <cyphermox> there's some experimentation in there too ;)
[17:00] <API> sorry, I forgot to add ayatana to my automatic-join list
[17:00] <API> lamalex, btw
[17:00] <lamalex> ;)
[17:00] <API> one question
[17:00] <API> compiling libcompizconfig
[17:00] <API> I get this error
[17:00] <API> "FindCompiz.cmake" file not found in cmake module directories.
[17:00] <API> It should be installed to allow building of external compiz packages.
[17:00] <API> Call "sudo make findcompiz_install" to install it.
[17:00] <API> when making the cmake phase
[17:01] <API> but then it compiles without problem
[17:01] <API> the issue is that I have FindCompiz.cmake
[17:01] <API> properly installed
[17:01] <lamalex> API, why are you compiling compiz anyway?
[17:01] <lamalex> do you have to make compiz changes for a11y?
[17:01] <API> well, this is what this guide says :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource
[17:01] <lamalex> ah
[17:01] <lamalex> that is probably out of date
[17:01] <lamalex> are you on natty?
[17:01] <API> it says that unity requires compiz with the glib
[17:01] <API> yes
[17:02] <lamalex> yeah, you can use the packaged natty
[17:02] <lamalex> packaged compiz in natty
[17:02] <API> ah ok
[17:02] <API> so I just need to compile nux and unity?
[17:03] <API> lamalex, because I still thing that some changes would be required to be done on nux
[17:03] <API> at least to make things easier
[17:17] <lamalex> haha, apparently i wasn't plugged in
[17:48] <jcastro> hi cando_
[17:51] <didrocks> lamalex: is there a dep on a very recent nux?
[17:51] <jcastro> lamalex: is bug #693792 bitesizeable?
[17:52] <lamalex> jcastro, not sure I haven't looked into the workings of it
[17:53] <lamalex> jcastro, I would imagine it's not terribly difficult
[17:53] <jcastro> k
[17:55] <lamalex> jcastro, it might even be related to the menus opening behind apps bug, but that is pure speculation
[17:55] <jcastro> k, I added it to the list just to give it some visibility
[17:58] <didrocks> lamalex: seems you didn't see that: is there a dep on a very recent nux from unity trunk?
[18:00] <lamalex> didrocks, um, i don't think so
[18:00] <lamalex> DBO, ^
[18:01] <lamalex> didrocks, not much (anything) has changed in trunk since pre-christmas
[18:02] <lamalex> we might dep on head at the moment though, let me check
[18:02] <didrocks> hum, I get /home/didrocks/work/unity/unity/show-menu-on-alt/src/Launcher.cpp: In member function ‘void Launcher::RestoreSystemRenderTarget()’:
[18:02] <didrocks> /home/didrocks/work/unity/unity/show-menu-on-alt/src/Launcher.cpp:2244:31: error: ‘class nux::WindowCompositor’ has no member named ‘RestoreRenderingSurface’
[18:04] <didrocks> and this one is pre-christmas, weird
[18:04] <lamalex> didrocks, the last nux commit is the 0.9.12 release
[18:05] <lamalex> which is also what's in natty
[18:05] <didrocks> why do I have that build issue then? weird
[18:05] <lamalex> do you have an old version of nux lurking somewhere maybe?
[18:05] <lamalex> or an old version of unity that's using some removed api?
[18:06] <lamalex> nux head definitely has a RestoreRenderingSurface method
[18:06] <cando_> jcastro, hi! here i am
[18:06] <jcastro> welcome back!
[18:07] <cando_> i'm sick...eheheh
[18:07] <didrocks> lamalex: any idea? if you try to compile trunk, it's working for you?
[18:08] <lamalex> didrocks, do you have nux from source or nux from package
[18:08] <cando_> jcastro, tell me
[18:09] <didrocks> lamalex: from package
[18:09] <lamalex> k
[18:09] <didrocks> with latest -dev and such
[18:09] <lamalex> didrocks, give me a minute to get set up. I got a new laptop over break and since bzr wasn't working I didn't build unity or anything
[18:10] <didrocks> ok :)
[18:10] <didrocks> thanks!
[18:13] <didrocks> lamalex: all is good, was my fault :)
[18:17] <cando_> jcastro, you here?
[18:17] <jcastro> yep
[18:17] <jcastro> sorry, what's up?
[18:20] <cando_> do you need me?
[18:21] <jcastro> cando_: no I was just saying hi/happy new year, etc.
[18:21] <cando_> jcastro, ahaha...thanks!!!!!!!^^
[18:21] <cando_> happy new year to you too!
[18:23] <cando_> have you enjoyed your party?? (if any... :) )
[18:23] <jcastro> I am thankfull I no longer have to entertain guests if that's what you mean, heh
[18:24] <lamalex> haha
[18:24] <cando_> lol
[18:25] <cando_> got to go dudes, ttyl
[18:34] <dbarth>  jcastro: hey Jorge, how is it going?
[18:35] <dbarth> jcastro: best wishes for the new year
[18:35] <jcastro> likewise
[18:35] <jcastro> you ready to rock?
[18:35] <dbarth> yeah, ready for 2011
[18:36] <dbarth> how's things with the bitesize bugs? is there something blocking or something we need to do?
[18:36] <dbarth> i've seend some really cool contributions in december so far
[18:37] <jcastro> (sec, on a call)
[18:37] <dbarth> ok, nw
[18:44] <lamalex> didrocks, I built
[18:44] <lamalex> no problem
[18:44] <lamalex> you must have it trying to use an old nux header somewhere
[18:51] <dbarth> hey DBO, what's the key again for intellihide?
[18:53] <jcastro> dbarth: things are going good, I'd like to see more of them, but *shrug*
[18:53] <jcastro> dbarth: I think post-A2 when the major plumbing is in place is when we'll really get rolling
[18:59] <didrocks> lamalex: thanks, have a nice evevning :)
[18:59] <lamalex> you too
[19:00] <dbarth> jcastro: ok
[19:00] <dbarth> jcastro: anyway, that also reminds me about api docs
[19:00] <dbarth> didrocks, ah gone...
[19:00] <jcastro> yes
[19:01] <dbarth> well, i'll assign him a bug anyway; that's sneaky i know
[19:01] <jcastro> dbarth: are api docs going on developer.ubuntu.com or on their own thing?
[19:13] <dbarth> jcastro: well, not sure what was the outcome of the discussion on that
[19:13] <dbarth> jcastro: i think i proposed to put that in u.u.c in a static zone
[19:14] <dbarth> jcastro: but the content can move everywhere it's needed; at the moment the main task is to organize the api docs
[20:14] <cyphermox> how can I force unity to redraw the panel and launcher (and probably desktop as well)? I can resize them, they react to mouse actions, but aren't drawn in the right place... I tried wt->RequestRedraw, NeedRedraw, damageNuxRegions... I can't seem to think of a way to have the old textures removed and redrawn elsewhere?
[20:37] <lamalex> DBO, ^^
[20:38] <DBO> werd
[20:38] <DBO> cyphermox, can you push a branch so I can see what you are doing?
[20:43] <jcastro> fagan: ok, now that you're back ... want some bugs? :)
[20:44] <fagan> jcastro: well I have to do my datastructures assignment over this week but im more or less free to do some bugs
[20:44] <fagan> :P
[20:44] <jcastro> anything in the topic would be most welcome!
[20:48] <fagan> that is unity running dbus service looks like a fun one to do
[20:56] <cyphermox> DBO: lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor ; it's the point I'm at now...
[20:56] <DBO> cyphermox, thank you, will look at shortly
[20:57] <cyphermox> disregard how Relayout is getting called, I was trying other things in parallel :)
[21:04] <DBO> cyphermox, it looks to me like I'll need to kick nux a bit
[21:04] <DBO> thanks for bringing this to my attention
[21:08] <cyphermox> oh, really?
[21:09] <cyphermox> DBO, fwiw, I don't like the fact that in some places, we need to successively Disable and re-enable e.g. struts for them to be resized/reset. it feels like a hack... but that just my own opinion ;)
[21:10] <DBO> cyphermox, oh I agree
[21:10] <DBO> and I intend to fix that
[21:10] <DBO> the places where I do that are in fact marked "hack"
[21:10] <DBO> and if not they should be
[21:10] <cyphermox> the last thing I tried was ShowWindow (false, then true), but that didn't work any better ;)
[21:11] <cyphermox> so, what's missing?
[21:12] <DBO> I need to make nux remember the states you set and ensure they are correct
[21:12] <DBO> so like if you enable a input window, enable struts, then disable and re-enable the input window
[21:12] <DBO> the struts dont get re-enabled
[21:12] <DBO> because its not aware of the silliness
[21:14] <cyphermox> anything I can help with?
[21:15] <DBO> not right now, it would take me longer to explain than fix
[21:15] <DBO> just been doin other things :)
[21:15] <DBO> I am going to do it today because it now effects more than me :)
[21:38] <coz_> anyone know if this has been reported?   natty daily...7600gt nvidia.. reboot after install " monitor out of range"   swap with 6600gt nvidia  everything is fine  ??
[22:06] <lamalex> indicators are not a good match for weather :\


[10:26] <knome> !team | email sent about next community meeting; this friday at 22UTC here; wiki page and team calendar updated as well.
[10:26] <Unit193> blue!
[10:26] <knome> all council members should be able to attend
[10:56] <Unit193> Yeah I'm not going to "be" there.
[10:56] <Unit193> Bah.
[10:56] <knome> sorry :(
[11:18] <bluesabre> Thanks knome
[11:18] <knome> np
[11:18] <slickymasterWork> noted knome
[22:40] <Unit193> bluesabre: Since I couldn't wait any longer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin/0.2.1-0ubuntu1
[22:41] <Unit193> (Now watch ninetls release a new version tomorrow. :P )
[22:41] <bluesabre> Unit193: good work


[00:04] <jussi> sysop2: you potentially have a higher possibility of an answer on that in #qt or #kde :)
[03:23] <nikke_> Hi. I'm new Ubuntu/Kubuntu user. Just first year begind and I never Install Windows again. Why Kubundu? I have old mini-laptop.
[03:25] <nikke_> And the question was is there program to record my screen to .gif -format?
[03:26] <nikke_> I star to use Google..
[03:26] <nikke_> ....now
[03:28] <travnewmatic> thats a good question i'm not really sure
[03:28] <travnewmatic> i know theres a way to take like screen caps like prnt-screen
[03:28] <travnewmatic> from windows
[03:28] <travnewmatic> but as far as recording i imagine there is something
[03:28] <TheFakeazneD525> ffmpeg
[03:29] <TheFakeazneD525> alias screencast='ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -r 30 -s 1366x768 -i :0.0+0,0 -pix_fmt yuv420p -vcodec libx264 -preset veryfast -ar 48000 -qscale 1 -r 30'
[03:29] <TheFakeazneD525> what i use
[03:31] <nikke> thanks. i try out this ffmpeg. Is it "command-line program?
[03:31] <nikke> Konsole
[06:31] <MattQC> Hello
[06:34] <Aporie_> Hello, what the right way to restart "notworking service" in 14.04 LTS ?? Can't do anything with "sudo service stop" and "/etc/init.d/netw... stop". Anyone have an idea ?
[06:36] <rww> sudo service NetworkManager restart, I think. don't have an Ubuntu box in front of me right now
[06:37] <MattQC> I need some help with Kmix.
[06:37] <MattQC> I am trying to map a new shortcut key, for the famous ThinkPad mic mute problem.
[06:42] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:46] <Aporie_> rww, it's not really on a kubuntu distro but on an ubuntu server ... NetworkManager is not installed
[06:51] <lordievader> Aporie_: Err, isn't #ubuntu-server a better channel for question regarding Ubuntu Server?
[06:51] <Aporie_> lordievader
[06:51] <Aporie_> yes it is
[07:16] <jasoncollege24> in kubuntu 14.04 is there a way to check the file system, and/or OS files for corruption, and repair any issues?
[07:17] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: fsck ;)
[07:18] <jasoncollege24> lordievader: every time i try that I get messages stating that the devices are mounted, and that e2fsck cannot continue, then it simply aborts back to the command line
[07:19] <hateball> jasoncollege24: you cant (shouldnt) do it on mounted filesystems
[07:19] <hateball> jasoncollege24: "sudo touch /forcefsck" will force a check on next reboot
[07:20] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: As hateball says you cannot check a mounted volume. An altenative is booting a live environment and checking from there.
[07:20] <jasoncollege24> hateball: trying your advice now
[07:21] <jasoncollege24> problem is that in the last several startups, and updates, several crashes have taken place. things like plasma, some audio recorder type thing, and kded4
[07:21] <jasoncollege24> sometimes all I get is a black screen with my mouse
[07:24] <jasoncollege24> speaking of... just had another crash during the check... "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt"
[07:24] <jasoncollege24> next line says returning to text console
[07:24] <lordievader> Kernel panics aren't nice, they point to hardware failure. If you think it is your HDD do a SMART test.
[07:26] <hateball> Yeah, kernel panics are rare enough to be taken seriously
[07:26] <jasoncollege24> i'm guessing that's essentially the linux version of a BSOD? lol
[07:26] <hateball> jasoncollege24: Yes
[07:27] <jasoncollege24> ok. i may know the cause
[07:27] <jasoncollege24> thanks
[07:27] <hateball> jasoncollege24: If you have access to the install media you can liveboot and check the HDD and such
[07:28] <jasoncollege24> i just added a videocard. if that card is pulling more power than the PSU is able to give, would that cause the kernel panic?
[07:28] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: Theoretical possibility.
[07:29] <jasoncollege24> lordievader: gotta love theories. lol
[07:32] <hateball> well, unplug it and test. seems simple :p
[07:32] <jasoncollege24> hateball: I hope it's that simple
[07:37] <libreSSL> WHAT IN THE NAME OF WHAT
[07:37] <valorie> ?
[07:37] <libreSSL> So, my desktop was lagging, so I tried opening up the sysguard in KRunner
[07:38] <libreSSL> and it said for "lightdm"
[07:38] <valorie> cool, ain't it?
[07:38] <valorie> hmmm
[07:38] <libreSSL> %500+ CPU usage
[07:38] <valorie> !
[07:38] <libreSSL> I'm assuming thats not normal
[07:38] <valorie> pretty much
[07:38] <valorie> we're moving to SDDM instead, when we can get it to work.....
[07:39] <libreSSL> well not lightdm
[07:39] <libreSSL> but under that tree
[07:39] <libreSSL> I think it was chrome
[07:39] <libreSSL> because there was a window that said "unresponsive pages"
[07:39] <libreSSL> or something >.>
[07:40] <libreSSL> valorie: any logs I should look at?
[07:41] <lordievader> libreSSL: xsession-errors?
[07:42] <libreSSL> Script for none started at run_im. Script for auto started at run_im. Script for default started at run_im.
[07:45] <lordievader> A thousand and one line of the same within the second?
[07:45] <libreSSL> ?
[07:45] <libreSSL> wait, I think I know the cause...
[07:46] <libreSSL> I think it was a JS script that was incrementing a number more and more
[07:46] <libreSSL> or something >.>
[07:46] <lordievader> I take that your last message came from there, if that line is spammed in there with a very great speed you got something on your hands ;)
[07:48] <libreSSL> ach
[07:53] <jasoncollege24> to check the HDD from a liveCD, is it just "fsck" at the command line?
[07:54] <lordievader> With the appropriate device, yes.
[08:04] <jasoncollege24> Now i remember why I added the videocard... Any ideas why the onboard video would cause my monitor to go into power saving mode when plasma is supposed to appear, but still work when switching to any of the tty interfaces?
[08:04] <jasoncollege24> note that this happens with the liveCD too
[08:06] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: What is set in the BIOS as the default video card?
[08:06] <jasoncollege24> let me check
[08:08] <jasoncollege24> lordievader: it's set to auto, which the BIOS help says will use a card, if it's physically there. There is none at the moment, so it defaults to the onboard. Right up until the login screen is supposed to appear (plasma) the monitor is on and woring
[08:09] <jasoncollege24> working*
[08:09] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: Does it receive a signal? What happens when you set it to onboard?
[08:09] <jasoncollege24> it receives a signal
[08:10] <jasoncollege24> the monitor shows the kubuntu splash image with 4 dots underneath during boot, then goes into power saving
[08:10] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: So it does not receive a signal...
[08:10] <jasoncollege24> I'm looking at the BIOS on it right now
[08:10] <jasoncollege24> oh...
[08:10] <jasoncollege24> ummm maybe not lol
[08:11] <jasoncollege24> well not after that point anyway
[08:12] <hateball> Knowing chipset might help
[08:13] <jasoncollege24> give me a moment to see if I can read it off the board
[08:14] <jasoncollege24> VIA chipset
[08:23] <jasoncollege24> hateball: the onboard chipset is VIA
[08:24] <hateball> jasoncollege24: I was thinking the external card, the one that makes things not-work
[08:25] <hateball> jasoncollege24: oh are you saying it's blank even when using only VIA?
[08:25] <jasoncollege24> ok...
[08:25] <hateball> I have no experience with that, arent those quite legacy?
[08:25] <jasoncollege24> the onboard is the one that is going into power saving mode
[08:26] <jasoncollege24> the other, i'm not sure if it's even causing a problem
[08:26] <hateball> jasoncollege24: can you access a tty by pressing ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[08:26] <jasoncollege24> but the card allows me to use the liveCD
[08:26] <jasoncollege24> yes
[08:26] <hateball> hmmm
[08:27] <jasoncollege24> hateball: I'm wondering if my other problem might be something i did wrong... is it possible I borked my install by screwing with something?
[08:31] <hateball> jasoncollege24: everything can be fixed, but it helps to know what you might have done :)
[08:32] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: The VIA chipsets we have here are troublesome.
[08:32] <hateball> I guess one could try booting with nomodeset and such
[08:32] <hateball> but I shall slowly back away, having not used VIA chipsets in... aeons
[08:32] <lordievader> Is it one of those old VIA chips that VIA itself no longer support?
[08:33] <lordievader> hateball: Lucky you ;)
[08:34] <jasoncollege24> lordievader: yes
[08:35] <lordievader> jasoncollege24: You're in for a treat, it is horrible.
[08:35] <jasoncollege24> also, i booted from the liveCD (using the external card) and have no issues. When I used fsck on my drives, it says they're clean, as if it's just readying whether a dirty bit is set
[08:35] <lordievader> Friend of mine was trying to get a driver compiled with proper 3d support...
[08:35] <lordievader> Anyhow I gotto go, good luck.
[08:35] <jasoncollege24> i didn't have this problem a week ago
[08:35] <jasoncollege24> lol
[08:36] <jasoncollege24> is there a way to force fsck from liveCD without a reboot?
[08:40] <hateball> jasoncollege24: yes since the filesystems arent mounted you can run fsck
[08:40] <hateball> on /dev/sda1 or whatever
[08:44] <jasoncollege24> hateball: fsck refused, so I did it through the KDE parition manager, which is running checks! :-D
[08:45] <hateball> well, I doubt it's the filesystem
[08:45] <hateball> jasoncollege24: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[08:46] <jasoncollege24> no. i'm actually considering just formatting / and reinstalling kubuntu, cuz this is starting to be more trouble than it's worth
[08:48] <jasoncollege24> ugh kernal panic from liveCD... maybe I should just give up
[09:01] <hateball> jasoncollege24: do you have any option in BIOS to disable to builtin GPU and just use external?
[09:01] <hateball> whatever the external might be
[09:20] <joshua__> Hellos
[09:20] <joshua__> Hellow
[09:34] <jasoncollege24> hateball: yes I do, but if my external card issue is a problem with the PSU not being able to provide enough power, that wouldn't help. I'm trying something... questionable lol
[10:19] <jasoncollege24> How do i display the GRUB menu during boot time?
[10:35] <naggappan> @jason press and hold shift key dring the boot time
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:37] <david82> hello i am using kubuntu 14.04 i have it installed on ssd but bootime is too long ist it possible to speed it up
[11:37] <david82> ?
[11:38] <lordievader> david82: Does it hang on things?
[11:39] <david82> only i can see is an error message with drive disk
[11:40] <lordievader> david82: An error message?
[11:41] <david82> yes on bootup something wrong with hard drive
[11:41] <david82> but i don't know what is it
[11:41] <lordievader> david82: Could you retrieve the full error somehow. It might explain your troubles.
[11:43] <david82> first must search the error
[11:44] <lordievader> Perhaps dmesg/syslog shows it.
[11:59] <jasoncollege24> is there a way to access Windows 8 libraries like "Videos" (equivilant to older My Videos) that are normally accessible only through homegroups?
[12:10] <genni> salve
[12:11] <genni> !list
[12:18] <genni> lista
[12:18] <genni> salve
[12:18] <genni> !list
[12:53] <genni> salve
[12:54] <genni> !list
[14:00] <AciD``> anybody else having a black screen after locking and powering off the screen, then trying to power it on again ?
[14:48] <pankaj_> Hi
[14:50] <pankaj_> I have installed kubuntu 14.4 but after updating nvidia drivers its getting freez at first kubuntu screen
[14:50] <lordievader> o/
[14:50] <lordievader> What graphics card do you have and what version of the driver did you install?
[14:50] <pankaj_> any solution
[14:51] <pankaj_> nvidia n12p-gs ver70
[14:52] <lordievader> pankaj_: Could you pastebin the output of 'lscpi -k|grep -A2 VGA'?
[14:52] <lordievader> !paste | pankaj_
[14:52] <pankaj_> i think update was some thing like version 33, not sure. installed via kubuntu update service
[16:07] <mine> I really Love what is going on in Kubuntu's 14.10 Beta2 with Plasma 5, But since 13.10 Dolphin has not been able to open most Shares
[16:07] <mine> Yes I can Install SMB4 or mount via Bash, but this isn't the point
[16:07] <mine> the Latest Versions of KDE/Kubuntu plus other Distro's running KDE maybe going as far back as 13.04, but for sure 13.10 on is the ONLY Operating system that can not Open Share files without a fix or outside Program/App to do the mounting for it
[16:08] <lordievader> mine: You do know that both 13.04 and 13.10 are EOL?
[16:08] <mine> EOL?
[16:09] <lordievader> End-of-Life.
[16:09] <mine> yes, but it's still happening in 14.04 and now in 14.10 Beta
[16:09] <mine> nothing has changed in the LTS
[16:10] <lordievader> mine: Have you filed a bug?
[16:10] <mine> lordievader, I was using the 13.04 as the starting pooint as to when I first noticed it
[16:11] <mine> I have
[16:11] <mine> and can again
[16:11] <lordievader> mine: They I suppose you'll just have to wait until it is adressed.
[16:11] <lordievader> Filing duplicate bugs won't speed up the process, if anything it will slow it down.
[16:15] <mine> It's been on Many discussions as of Late
[16:15] <mine> you can see the shares, just won't open them, and won't show up in the Device location of Dolphin with out Installing SMB4
[16:15] <mine> but I won't add a doup then :)
[16:18] <iroh312> i just clean installed Trusty from Precise.  How do set Kubuntu so that it does NOT activate the wifi card until i actually need it?
[16:20] <AciD`> iroh312 > uncheck the wifi once, and it should stay that way
[16:21] <mine> iroh312: click on the WiFi bar, Uncheck the network, reverce when needed
[16:21] <iroh312> I tried that. every time i boot my laptop the card is active until i turn it off.
[16:22] <iroh312> is this something i should report as a bug?
[16:25] <xevil> I have a Win 8, Kubuntu 14.04 dual boot with each operating system on it's own drive.  Kubuntu will not mount the win 8 NTFS drive reporting an error and that "the drive is in an unsafe state".  I have turned off the quick boot option in Win *, but still can't get the drive to mount.  Any suggestions?
[16:26] <sanad> hi
[16:26] <mine> lordievader: It is supposed to be something to do with how the KIO Slave mounts or Doesn't Mount in this case...
[16:26] <mine> But it sadly Renders the KDE Series as a Home only OS to any and All GUI Only users who are still lost as to how to Open remote Shares When the GUI tool given only gets you half there :)
[16:26] <mine> Thank's for your input :)
[16:34] <xevil> anyone have any idead on my question?
[16:34] <xevil> ideas that is...
[16:36] <mine> xevil: I have the same issue on my kde, even running live returns that error... not sure if it's kde only cause I haven't reied it with my Ubuntu yet sorry
[16:36] <mine> Might be a M$ file protection that Win 8 added
[16:38] <xevil> it's a rather annoying condition... I've tried everything I've read to fix the condition, but so far pfffttt....
[16:38] <mine> xevil: have you tried right clicking the drive partition in Dolphin and unlock it?
[16:40] <xevil> It's a seperate drive... not a partition
[16:41] <mine> but still, if you right click that and choose 'Unlock Panel'  I remember it worked for me in the past for something
[16:42] <xevil> I don't get that option... only a Lock Panels option
[16:42] <mine> ahh, so it's already unlocked
[16:43] <xevil> it's very vexing... never had this problem with any other version of WIN
[16:44] <mine> yeah, My Dolphin works great on Win 7 Drive, I am sure it's somethig M$ did to add hurdles
[16:45] <xevil> oh well... maybe I can find something that will work... I can mount it read only, but that isn't what I wanted...
[16:46] <xevil> take care and thanks...
[16:46] <iroh312> i found something re: win8 using fast boot-up
[16:46] <mine> you too, welcom
[16:47] <iroh312> i found something re: win8 using fast boot-up, it seems that if you use fast boot for windows 8 you will get that error using dual boot.
[16:48] <iroh312> i am new to this so i don't know if i am allowed to post urls to other web pages.
[19:33] <sanad> hi
[20:18] <jimmy51v_> at the login screen I can choose the window manager type (KDE,gnome, cinnamon, etc). is this someting I can preset via command line or script?
[20:43] <Walex> jimmy51v_: yes.
[20:44] <jimmy51v_> Walex: how?  (what config file or tool)
[20:44] <jimmy51v_> Walex: i think i've narrowed it down to LightDM configuration
[20:44] <Walex> jimmy51v_: depends on which graphical login manager you are using.
[20:45] <Walex> jimmy51v_: most of them keep a file in your home directory with your personal default.
[20:45] <jimmy51v_> I started with a kubuntu liveCD, added cinnamon.  i would like the default to be cinnamon but leave the option for the user to switch to kde if needed
[20:46] <Walex> jimmy51v_: and there will most likely be a config file in '/etc/' for changing the LightDM (if that is what you are using) system-wide default instead of just your personal one.
[20:47] <jimmy51v_> ah
[20:47] <jimmy51v_> ok, i see the one under /etc/lightdm
[20:47] <Walex> jimmy51v_: http://madebits.com/blog/?x=entry:entry131024-094005 has a detailed explanation#
[20:47] <jimmy51v_> i'll modify that and see if it sticks
[20:48] <Walex> jimmy51v_: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins for a shorter one
[20:51] <jimmy51v_> good info in both.
[20:51] <jimmy51v_> thanks for the direction... i'll read and see what I can make happen
[22:59] <MattQC> Hello.
[23:29] <chando> hellow to everyone
[23:30] <chando> I am new here, and would like to know how it works.
[23:31] <chando> I am running Kubuntu 14.04 and enjoy it very much
[23:32] <chando> looking for a good documentation site for kubuntu --like a wiki like Wikipedia
[23:33] <TheFakeazneD525> chando: http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8c9450034e0fcb4ca0d7ee8727496d6/tumblr_mz5evcY3Md1qcsesho3_500.png
[23:33] <TheFakeazneD525> er
[23:34] <TheFakeazneD525> chando: https://userbase.kde.org/Welcome_to_KDE_UserBase
[23:34] <TheFakeazneD525> ..is there any way to disable the autocopy thing
[23:36] <chando> I enjoyed your png. Is there a protocol here that I am supposed to already know?
[23:37] <TheFakeazneD525> chando: I mispasted that
[23:37] <TheFakeazneD525> the second one is the wiki
[23:40] <chando> Yes I have seen this one, but it's only good for KDE --the desktop. It does not cover the system. Likewise, another site is Ubunt, but it is not exactly kubunbu either, so a user of Kubuntu is stuck to discover on his own.
[23:47] <chando> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntuguide  this site used to be located at a university in Europe somewhere, but it was difficult to update. One had to submit the proposed change, wait a few days, etc and it might chanhge. By the time you got things changed a bit, Kubuntu was already on a new version, so the documentation was left as it was.


[03:48] <bluesabre> Looks like there is "ubuntu-desktop-minimal", so I'll just mirror that.
[03:48] <bluesabre> And drop notes and sn ... and bring back notes if it finds its future
[03:49] <bluesabre> https://giphy.com/gifs/highway-brakes-UHWPo4k6znRD2
[03:56] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Use xubuntu-desktop-minimal to match germinate @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=eebd8555133e562907ee168badcf25cc4ca59e91 (by Sean Davis)
[04:06] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Remove xfce4-notes-plugin from seed @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=aa1d87376e9746e26fdc92739f54e97efa50cc82 (by Steve Langasek)
[04:06] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Remove xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin from seed @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=413c427eeb8457927e4921a088bc2902db7835c0 (by Steve Langasek)
[04:06] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Merge remote-tracking branch 'vorlon/drop-xfce4-notes' into lunar @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=96bd7e6eb20c418c95252ccce87d41585a52d836 (by Sean Davis)
[04:06] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Merge remote-tracking branch 'vorlon/drop-xfce4-statusnotifier' into lunar @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=19a789bd589d04c65e76cf7da6d360928615145b (by Sean Davis)
[04:11] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-screenshooter 1.10.3 released<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:12] <JackFrost> :/
[04:43] <JackFrost> bluesabre: Can you try to rebuild parole and launch it?
[04:44] <bluesabre> uh oh
[04:44] <JackFrost> Kinetic+ would be good, but...  Yeah, I tried a test rebuild and rebuilt with clang just for kicks.  Segfault on start.
[04:44] <JackFrost> https://dpaste.com/4T6SCUN58
[04:45] <bluesabre> parole is segfaulting on start on lunar even without a rebuild
[04:46] <JackFrost> Yeah it should be new enough there.
[04:48] <JackFrost> Debian #1027900
[04:48] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Debian bug 1027900 in parole "parole  4.16.0-2 does not start" [Grave, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1027900
[04:51] <bluesabre> huh... it seems to be dying with glib's logging mechanism
[04:51] <bluesabre> I'll have to dig into that another time
[04:51] <bluesabre> But maybe not my fault!
[16:49] <bluesabre> JackFrost: follow up on why no maybe-ubiquity… is there a reason we want that to differ on the minimal image?
[17:52] <bluesabre> krytarik: too ^


[01:25] <t> hi
[01:26] <Guest49360> i want to factory reset my computer but its running on ubuntu how do i do this


[01:59] <mybalzitch> "sudo apt install latte-dock" in the console should install all the dependancies
 I dual booted kubuntu LTS 20.04 and installed it on my spectre x360
 When i turn on my laptop the grub menu freezes.. i am unable to choose anything or exit..
 But when i press f9 and then choose the bootloader .. the grub starts to work at that time…
 What could be the reason for this?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[17:03] <mparillo> Once you are in, have you tried to open a konsole and sudo update-grub
 Yes.. also i noticed that it works fine if I remove all the USBs connected to my laptop.(in this case my mouse) (re @IrcsomeBot: <mparillo> Once you are in, have you tried to open a konsole and sudo update-grub)
 Happy New year ❤


[15:59]  * Ursinha pokes MootBot
[16:00] <matsubara> #startmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is matsubara.
[16:00] <matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.
[16:00] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call
[16:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
[16:00] <gary_poster> me
[16:00] <mrjazzcat> me
[16:00] <Ursinha> me me
[16:00] <matsubara> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us!
[16:01] <matsubara> sinzui, Chex, rockstar, bigjools, allenap, danilos: hi
[16:01] <bigjools> \o
[16:01] <allenap> me
[16:02] <rockstar> hi
[16:02] <sinzui> me
[16:02] <Chex> hello
[16:03] <danilos> me
[16:03] <matsubara> ok, everyone is here.
[16:03] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
[16:03] <matsubara>  * Actions from last meeting
[16:03] <matsubara>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[16:03] <matsubara>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[16:03] <matsubara>  * DBA report (stub)
[16:03] <matsubara>  * Proposed items
[16:03] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
[16:03] <matsubara>  * matsubara to discuss with foundations bug 403281 and set importance on it
[16:03] <matsubara>         * discussed with Gary and it's now triaged and an importance set.
[16:03] <matsubara>     * rockstar to triage bug 531687
[16:03] <matsubara>     * matsubara to discuss bug 531965 with foundations as well
[16:03] <matsubara>         * discussed with Gary and it's now triaged and an importance set.
[16:03] <matsubara>     * rockstar to investigate failures on mpcreationjobs and sendbranchmail scripts
[16:03] <matsubara>         * <rockstar> matsubara, abentley is already figuring out what's going on with those scripts.
[16:03] <matsubara>     * rockstar to investigate Out-Of-Memory error: https://pastebin.canonical.com/28737/ and get back to losas about it
[16:03] <matsubara>     * matsubara and/or Ursinha to add a count of untriaged bugs per team to the oops section
[16:03] <matsubara> I didn't add the count of untriaged bugs per team to the oops section yet
[16:04] <matsubara> [action] * matsubara and/or Ursinha to add a count of untriaged bugs per team to the oops section
[16:04] <MootBot> ACTION received:  * matsubara and/or Ursinha to add a count of untriaged bugs per team to the oops section
[16:04] <Ursinha> yes sir
[16:04] <matsubara> rockstar, any news about the OOM error? did you get back to losas about it?
[16:05] <matsubara> I see that 531687 was properly triaged and an importance set. thanks for that rockstar
[16:05] <rockstar> matsubara, others on my team are looking into it.  We think it's probably just another scalability issue.
[16:05] <matsubara> cool. thanks rockstar
[16:06] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[16:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[16:06] <matsubara> I have 3 bugs for today, 2 of them were already dealt with
[16:06] <matsubara> bug 535071 still need some foundations love
[16:06] <matsubara> gary_poster, can you take a look ^?
[16:07] <matsubara> fwiw, the other two are bugs 535078, 535672
[16:07] <gary_poster> looking (how did I miss this? :-/ )
[16:08] <matsubara> thanks gary_poster
[16:08] <matsubara> we have 4 critical bugs, 3 fix committed and 1 in progress.
[16:09] <bigjools>  /o\
[16:09] <matsubara> for the failing scripts
[16:09] <matsubara> we have two failing frequently: productreleasefinder and oops-pruner
[16:09] <gary_poster> heh
[16:10] <Ursinha> ubottu: there, there
[16:10] <matsubara> I replied to one of the oops pruner failure email but didn't get a reply yet.
[16:10] <matsubara> Chex, could you take a look in the oops pruner script logs and check why it's failing?
[16:10] <Chex> matsubara: yes sure, I can look at that
[16:10] <matsubara> Chex, please reply to one of the failures emails with the traceback or file a bug
[16:11] <matsubara> [action] Chex to verify why oops-pruner is failing and reply to the failure email with more information.
[16:11] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Chex to verify why oops-pruner is failing and reply to the failure email with more information.
[16:11] <matsubara> sinzui, how about the prf script?
[16:11] <matsubara> been failing on a daily basis for the past week
[16:11] <sinzui> It is always running 2 hours late
[16:11] <sinzui> It always runs, just late
[16:12] <sinzui> I think we need to consider changing the threshold, or changing the order
[16:12] <matsubara> sinzui, so we should adjust the monitoring script to take that into account, shouldn't we?
[16:12] <matsubara> [action] sinzui to work with losas to set the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script.
[16:12] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sinzui to work with losas to set the increase threshold for the product release finder monitoring script.
[16:13] <matsubara> I think that's all for today's oops/scripts/critical section. thanks everyone
[16:13] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[16:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[16:14] <Chex> hello everyone, here is this weeks report:
[16:14] <Chex> - We are in the process of working on migrating to using SSO run by ISD branded for LP (open-ID single signon) in
[16:14] <Chex>         Launchpad.
[16:14] <Chex> - The LP DBs on one of the slave DB servers may need to be rebuilt/repacked as we're getting short on
[16:14] <Chex>         space on that server.
[16:14] <Chex> - LP incidents of note:
[16:14] <Chex>         ; LP Cherry-picks: CP to crowberry/codehost; revno 9082
[16:14] <Chex>         ; There was a buildbot error that stopped merging from db-devel to db-stable for a few days, which has
[16:14] <Chex>                 been fixed.
[16:15] <Chex> and thats all for us.  Any questions/comments??
[16:16] <matsubara> Chex, I take you're working with stub to have the db rebuilding done?
[16:17] <Chex> oh, and the buildbot merge error seems to be happening again, so this still needs to be investigated.
[16:17] <Chex> matsubara: yes I believe we will work with stub on the db rebuild.
[16:17] <matsubara> rockstar, can you take that? that's a build engineer thing, right?
[16:19] <rockstar> matsubara, I'm not build engineer anymore.
[16:20] <matsubara> rockstar, oh, who's the build engineer for this cycle?
[16:20] <rockstar> matsubara, I don't think there is one.
[16:20] <matsubara> I guess it'll fallback to foundations then. gary_poster can you work with losas re: the buildbot issue above?
[16:21] <gary_poster> matsubara: yes
[16:21] <matsubara> cool. thanks.
[16:21] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
[16:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
[16:21] <matsubara> sorry, forgot to thank Chex for his report. thank you Chex!
[16:22] <matsubara> dba report was sent to the list. any question please follow up there
[16:22] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
[16:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
[16:22] <matsubara> no new proposed items
[16:22] <matsubara> and I guess that's all for today folks. anything else before I close?
[16:23] <Chex> matsubara: no problem!
[16:23] <matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda for the logs.
[16:23] <matsubara> #endmeeting
[16:23] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:23.
[16:24] <Ursinha> matsubara: thanks japanese
[16:26] <bigjools> Ursinha: *chinese*
[16:26] <bigjools> :)
[16:26] <Ursinha> bigjools: lol
[16:27] <matsubara> last I hear, I was vietnamese. Must be the tan :-)
[16:27] <matsubara> heard
[16:27] <Ursinha> vietnamese
[16:27] <Ursinha> the tan
[16:27] <Ursinha> rofl


[12:44] <zxmpi> drifts is via android client
[13:00] <zxmpi> just a quick hi while i setup an android client while away from main pc
[14:35] <ball> \o


[09:01] <vimart> Good morning everyone
[09:01] <diogenes_> morning
[09:03] <Andrio> o/
[16:06] <paracusia> hello friends, I'm using my smartphone as speaker via bluetooth but calls are not handled via this connection, is it possible? and if yes, how?
[16:14] <slee> hi, laptop won't keep wifi connection, i have to keep clicking the wifi in network icon to restore it, laptop isn't suspending/hybernating
[16:14] <slee> lenova laptop/xubuntu 16.04
[16:14] <slee> ...fresh install
[16:15] <diogenes_> slee, lenovo is the worst ever choice for laptops but look in the driver manager maybe you have a driver there for your wireless
[16:17] <slee> no drivers listed in 'additional drivers'
[16:18] <slee> current driver is iwlwifi
[16:18] <diogenes_> slee, have you fully updated the system after the installation?
[16:18] <diogenes_> including the kernel?
[16:19] <slee> yes
[16:21] <diogenes_> try to find and install the microcode
[17:22] <xubuntu55d> hello
[17:22] <xubuntu55d> I need help.
[17:23] <xubuntu55d> My system does not allow me to change images on the wallpaper.
[17:24] <diogenes_> xubuntu55d, how comes?
[17:26] <xubuntu55d> I recently installed Xubuntu.
[17:26] <xubuntu55d> It does not allow the exchange of wallpaper.
[17:27] <xubuntu55d> How do I resolve this?
[17:28] <diogenes_> what  have you tried?
[17:32] <xubuntu55d> I downloaded an image from the internet
[17:32] <xubuntu55d> Then with the right button I tried to set it as wallpaper.
[17:32] <diogenes_> and?
[17:33] <xubuntu55d> também tentei alterar por as configurações de tela do XFCE
[17:33] <geniek> diogenes_: join #GeniekServer
[17:33] <xubuntu55d> I also tried changing it by the XFCE screen settings
[17:34] <diogenes_> xubuntu55d, was you image seen by xfce screen settings?
[17:34] <xubuntu55d> It had no results.
[17:34] <diogenes_> what is the extension of the picture?
[17:34] <xubuntu55d> It continued with the same wallpaper as when it started.
[17:35] <xubuntu55d> .jpg
[17:38] <xubuntu55d> When I enter the settings of xfce to change the wallpaper does not allow me to select the image that I downloaded.
[17:39] <xubuntu55d> The image format is .jpg
[17:44] <diogenes_> xubuntu55d, run: sudo apt install dconf-editor
[17:47] <xubuntu55d> ok
[17:48] <xubuntu55d> Installed
[17:48] <xubuntu55d> what is the next step?
[17:48] <diogenes_> open it
[17:49] <xubuntu55d> ok
[17:50] <diogenes_> go to org > gnome > desktop > bckground
[17:50] <xubuntu55d> it's open.
[17:50] <diogenes_> did you found the path I gave you?
[17:51] <xubuntu55d> Yes Yes
[17:52] <diogenes_> try to change it manually
[18:06] <xubuntu55d> The image I want is already selected. But it does not appear.
[22:31] <Neon^Lightning> i have found out thunar really doesn't like loading a folder with a million plus files in it....
[22:35] <Xubuntu_newbie> hi there, im pretty new (and english isnt my first language), I cant connect to intener, idk why ;_;


[12:25] <Verwilst> Riddell-awa: ping
[12:39] <Verwilst> Riddell-awa: if you're here, please contact me ;) want to talk to you :$
[12:39] <Verwilst> goodnight!
[08:44] <pef> hello
[03:34] <eazel7> hi ppl
[04:29] <eazel7> hi ppl
[04:29] <jpatrick> wb
[04:29] <eazel7> do you think it is possible to imitate lycoris installer (qt-based)?
[04:31] <eazel7> I'd like a graphical kubuntu installer (in which it's possible to play freecell/solitaire while installs :-P) do you recommend me to try t in python or in c++?
[04:32] <jpatrick> Both
[04:33] <eazel7> no prefference for you? it'll have to run as kubuntu install cd boots
[04:33] <jpatrick> I don't know Python
[04:33] <jpatrick> Maybe C++ will be better
[04:35] <eazel7> ok
[04:35] <eazel7> what other people thinks?
[04:37] <eazel7> I think it will be better to do it in C++
[10:21] <Verwilst> hello