[03:31] <mdeboer> tomorrow i will be installing dapper on a friends computer, an AMD64. if i would install it for myself, i'd definitely go for the amd64 version, but since he is rather new to linux, i am thinking that it might be better to go for i386.... what do you think?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> skript: after that reboot adn poof your on dapper
[03:32] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[03:32] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> anil,  you may want to read that 'advance bash guide' (google for it) (the package may be abs to be installed)
[03:32] <Answer> mdeboer, use 64bit version since u have 64bit system!
[03:32] <Khamael> how come it is hard or impossible to change msn name in gaim?
[03:32] <Answer> Khamael, msn is evil...
[03:33] <pippo> !it
[03:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> theres lots of little annoying problems with using the 64bit disrtos. :( flash, and other annoyances.
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Khamael: because gaim didnt make the msn name for you you have to make another account iirc
[03:33] <mdeboer> Dr_Willis: right.
[03:33] <njan> mdeboer, last time I checked, i386 was quite a bit more userfriendly, since 64-bit distros have problems with binary software not designed for 64-bit systems.
[03:33] <njan> mdeboer, flash being one example of that..
[03:33] <Khamael> Answer: yes, but all my evil little friends are using it
[03:33] <Healot> it isn't about friendliness
[03:33] <mdeboer> right, flash is definitely something he wants to use
[03:33] <Answer> Khamael, well msn has proprietary protocols which gaim was able to figure out for chatting, but not for updating account info
[03:34] <Healot> it's about programmers who are not willing to write/compile 64bit applications
[03:34] <Answer> 64bit is the koolest
[03:34] <njan> Healot, which causes the OS not to be friendly.
[03:34] <elkbuntu> i'd put off installing 64bit until it matures a bit more
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> ive seen little gains for my needs from using 64bit
[03:34] <Khamael> Answer: ok. just found out that amsn does change names.. but it`s ugly
[03:34] <njan> Healot, since it requires work and/or knowledge in order to actually get a 64-bit distribution working to the same extent that the 32-bit one is out of the box.
[03:34] <runes> mdeboer how did oyu get dapper
[03:34] <Healot> don't expect people from Adobe/Macromedia to write 64bit app, njan
[03:35] <elkbuntu> they will eventually
[03:35] <Healot> and don't blame 64bit distro for being stupid
[03:35] <nubix> can someone help me install via unichrome pro driver? it says to edit /etc/X11/XvMCConfig but i don't see that file anywhere
[03:35] <mdeboer> okay, this confirms my thoughts.
[03:35] <njan> Healot, I'm not blaming it, and I'm not expecting anything. I'm just saying that it's easier to use a 32-bit distro
[03:35] <dsl957> Khamael, what about changing name with amsn and then using gaim?
[03:35] <sugoruyo> hi all
[03:35] <njan> Healot, there's no scurrying about to find alternative clients, and no chrooting to use 32-bit libraries for things that don't have or like 64-bit ones.
[03:35] <Healot> njan, there are workarounds though...
[03:35] <gnomefreak> biggest issues with 64bit and ppc is the non-free apps/programs are not writen for them due to lack of users
[03:36] <Healot> things will change eventually
[03:36] <runes> gnomefreak seems like intel and amd are pusing the 64 bit architecture
[03:36] <njan> Healot, Yes, there are workarounds. But like I said at the very beginning of this thread, it's *less* userfriendly, and the dude was asking about a system for his non-linux-savvy-friend.
[03:36] <sugoruyo> i'm installing dapper flight7 on a vaio and i want to get it set up with codecs and most desktop stuff
[03:36] <Khamael> dsl957: that seems to be the only way. no prob for me, because I seldom change, but what about jou user? who wants to have everything work with one client?
[03:36] <sugoruyo> is there some kind of guide for this stuff?
[03:36] <runes> you'd think they would just write the apps to support eh platform?
[03:36] <njan> Healot, so, to re-state, 64-bit ubuntu is less userfriendly, and less suitable for someone new to linux.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> runes: they are now but this has been like this for a while
[03:36] <Healot> PPC might die, but 64bit x86 will reign someday
[03:36] <Khamael> dsl957: Joe User
[03:36] <mdeboer> ok, thanks a lot for your advice!
[03:37] <karim> gnomefreak runes, I pasted the config.log here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14623 . I tried to export gcc3.4 but it fail the same way. there is a lot of unkwnown things in the log. I don't know what it means
[03:37] <karim> but there is not as much errors on K7
[03:37] <mdeboer> and, a related question, would you recommend flight7 or the daily build?
[03:37] <Healot> flight 7
[03:37] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: rc should be released today
[03:38] <gnomefreak> i recomment that
[03:38] <dsl957> hamael, yes it should be fixed
[03:38] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: that is interesting news
[03:38] <stjepan> I've got an image inside a HTML table columnt and I want to align the image to top of the cell. What should I do?
[03:38] <njan> Healot, ppc won't die.. there are way too many systems using it for that.
[03:38] <dsl957> Khamael, yes it should be fixed
[03:38] <njan> Healot, it just won't be used in as many desktop systems.
[03:39] <Healot> yeah, die in desktopland....
[03:39] <dsl957> stjepan, valing=top
[03:39] <stjepan> tnx
[03:39] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: dailybuild should be at rc or just before give me a few and ill let you know if rc has been uploaded yet
[03:39] <Healot> but for high end processing it will stay
[03:39] <karim> gnomefreak ok, the processor is unkown ...
[03:39] <karim> I guess that's the problem
[03:39] <njan> Healot, not just high-end processing. It looks like most of the next generations of consoles are going to be PPC-based
[03:39] <Healot> karim, new MB with Sempron??
[03:40] <karim> Healot, no, very old pwoermac G4
[03:40] <Healot> njan, today's games are high end isn't
[03:40] <Healot> especially consoles
[03:40] <njan> Healot, that didn't make any sense
[03:40] <lukketto> !list
[03:40] <ubotu> well, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:40] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: thanks. i will have to live in an hour, after which i will not have cd-burner access anymore, so i might be forced to go for dailybuild, but i'll wait as long as possible
[03:42] <dsl957> sorry, wrong button
[03:42] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseCandidateAnnouncement?highlight=%28dapper%29  you will have to copy and paste the mirror into your browser but should work
[03:43] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: thanks a lot
[03:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:45] <planetguru> aye
[03:45] <Healot> aye aye
[03:46] <planetguru> this nickserv thing always messes me up - if I haven't forgotten my password, my nick's not available, or I can't remember which nick I used..
[03:47] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: i only see beta2 following those links...
[03:47] <gnomefreak> they prolly havent been uploaded yet than
[03:47] <Larsson-Sweden> fireglcontrol isnt detecting my tv anymore. tv-out is working fine but it is not detected. Need to make some dri changes! Any ideas?
[03:48] <runes> might have to put gcc-3.4
[03:48] <sugoruyo> can anyone help
[03:48] <Healot> the tv-out worked before, Larsson-Sweden?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: hold that thought please
[03:48] <cr3> sugoruyo: what seems to be the problem?
[03:49] <sugoruyo> i'm installing dapper flight7 on a vaio and i want to get it set up with codecs and most desktop stuff
[03:49] <sugoruyo> is there some kind of guide for this stuff?
[03:49] <planetguru> I'm in a cyclic dependency hell - two packages are uninstallable, because they rely on eachother.. starting with libqt3-mt and then with libstdc++5  - is there a way out of this please?
[03:49] <planetguru> I'm on Dapper Drake
[03:49] <siccness> sugoruyo: Automatix
[03:49] <mdeboer> ...
[03:49] <Larsson-Sweden> Healot, yes, it is still working, but there is no option for it in fireglcontrol
[03:50] <runes> planetguru which version of dapper is the most "stable"
[03:50] <Larsson-Sweden> Healot, should be an "TV-OUT" tab there.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: doesnt look like they were uploaded yet but heres a better site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperRC
[03:50] <planetguru> runes - no idea. I just installed the 'latest' about a week ago
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> !automatix
[03:50] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> siccness: dont recomment automatix
[03:50] <siccness> Oh
[03:50] <siccness> My apologies.
[03:50] <sugoruyo> !easyubuntu
[03:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> dont even acknolodge its existance. :P
[03:51] <sugoruyo> does it work on dapper?
[03:51] <siccness> Heh, I didn't even know it was such an issue. Thanks for informing me though, I'll take this into consideration when I install DD.
[03:51] <Ng> even easyubuntu isn't a great idea - you'll learn a lot more if you follow the wiki instructions for each of the bits it does
[03:52] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: ok, i will keep watching the servers, or else go for the daily build
[03:52] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: i would think by this afternoon (here) it shoudl be uploaded
[03:52] <gnomefreak> but we will see
[03:53] <Crane> hello
[03:53] <siccness> I'm not sure if I can be bothered waiting another week for final, I'll probably just go with RC
[03:53] <mdeboer> gnomefreak. ok thanks
[03:53] <antisocial_boris> how do i change the default media player that firefox uses?
[03:53] <cr3> easyubuntu is quite nice, thanks for the tip
[03:55] <gnomefreak> mdeboer: are you on breezy atm?
[03:55] <anil> Dapper Drake have VIM 7?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> anil: no it will be in edgy eft
[03:55] <sugoruyo> i need it to be up and running rather quickly and i already have 600 megs of updates to get on my 384 connectino
[03:56] <sugoruyo> so i'll stick with easyubuntu - if it works well enough
[03:56] <gnomefreak> bbl work to do
[03:56] <Healot> sugoruyo: if you prefer, then stick with it
[03:57] <anil> what is edgy eft?
[03:57] <sugoruyo> i think i'll try out the wiki instructions on some other machine
[03:57] <sugoruyo> but for now i need this thing quick
[03:57] <doped1> installed gpass with a provided deb pkg, but where should i find it, so i could make a shortcut?
[03:58] <sugoruyo> and i have hardware detection probs
[03:58] <sugoruyo> too
[03:58] <twopeak> Is there a way to use the micro of my (already recognized) webcam?
[03:59] <ghb> Adept crashed and now I can't get out of read-only mode. Doesn't matter if I reboot the computer. =(
[03:59] <Ng> anil: the next version of ubuntu after dapper
[03:59] <Ng> anil: so 6 months away at least
[04:00] <anil> ok
[04:00] <MiniJames> type xkill in console
[04:01] <freezey> can someone answer an apache2 question?
[04:01] <MiniJames> and kill adept with it
[04:01] <ghb> MiniJames: Done that. Still doesn't work. There's something running without a GUI or anything that's blocking the database.
[04:01] <MiniJames> ah
[04:01] <MiniJames> hm
[04:01] <anil> how to copy any name in the textbox I am typing in X-chat? any shortcut?
[04:02] <MiniJames> ctrl-c = copy
[04:02] <MiniJames> just open a dialoge box
[04:02] <MiniJames> and then copy their name from the bar @ top of the new window
[04:03] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[04:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:03] <MiniJames> lol

[04:03] <MiniJames> ;)
[04:03] <runes> where can I find a good manual on user administration
[04:03] <MiniJames> google.com
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> ne1 kno NE thing....
[04:04] <MiniJames> i dont ;)
[04:04] <Healot> runes: online? tldp.org maybe
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> amazing at the # of docs out online.
[04:04] <MiniJames> i know nothing (no pun on faulty towers)
[04:04] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: yeah, why?
[04:04] <Healot> for books... hum
[04:04] <ghb> How do I kill something that isn't there and is blocking the package database? Adept goes into read-only mode all the itme.
[04:04] <ghb> *time
[04:04] <MiniJames> task manager
[04:04] <mdeboer> gnomefreak: also got a dapper running. i'm at work.
[04:05] <MiniJames> system monitor i think its called
[04:05] <cdubya> is there a good offline dictionary application that you can download?
[04:05] <MiniJames> yeah, use the system monitor
[04:05] <MiniJames> and look @ list of processes
[04:05] <ghb> MiniJames: There's no adept process there. What processes could be blocking the database? Adept is killed, so there must be something else.
[04:05] <MiniJames> hm
[04:05] <MiniJames> nfc :)
[04:05] <ghb> nfc?
[04:05] <Healot> i know some for japanese... but english, i don;t know any
[04:05] <MiniJames> no f*ing clue :)
[04:05] <ghb> Haha ok.
[04:06] <anil> why u ppl prefer for Google, tell them del.icio.us/tag/theirtag
[04:06] <Intangir> can open office view pdf files?
[04:06] <MiniJames> :/
[04:06] <anil> I prefer del.icio.us in finiding info
[04:06] <anil> hey is there any good book on ubuntu?
[04:06] <MiniJames> google.com really just means "use a search engine"
[04:06] <MiniJames> but, people are lazy :)
[04:06] <MiniJames> google.com is easy
[04:07] <anil> MiniJames dont use vulgur words
[04:07] <MiniJames> :S i didnt
[04:07] <Healot> anil: he censored :)
[04:07] <MiniJames> ^^
[04:08] <runes> MiniJames google might be useful bur for newbies getting accurate info and not compromising their machines seciryt is generally the reason we come here
[04:08] <runes> according to the ethics pages on ubuntu site
[04:08] <Healot> he has automatic censorship i guess
[04:08] <MiniJames> the guy wanted a manual
[04:08] <MiniJames> so i suggested he searched for one
[04:08] <MiniJames> is that a problem?
[04:09] <MiniJames> runes: you misunderstand what I said --- read everything i said about search engines
[04:09] <anil> where can I download .deb packages directly
[04:09] <MiniJames> runes: your taking it out of context
[04:09] <HymnToLife> for ubuntu : http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <Healot> packages.ubuntu.com anil
[04:09] <Healot> that's my recommendation
[04:09] <anil> So I have a backup copies of all software I want
[04:10] <HymnToLife> anil> it will be hell to trace all dependencies
[04:10] <Healot> ALL anil ?
[04:10] <javiolo> hi, can anyone recommend me a mail notifier ?
[04:10] <MiniJames> runes: dont worry :)
[04:10] <anil> Can I directly download them from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:10] <anil> yeah!
[04:10] <makro> Hmm, just trying Xubuntu 6.06 live, what on earth is the username/password?
[04:10] <Healot> anil, no, but they will provide links
[04:11] <MiniJames> runes: i cant pm back -- not logged in
[04:11] <MiniJames> brb
[04:11] <anil> ok
[04:11] <Healot> anil, or you can rsync an ubuntu repos server
[04:11] <Healot> :)
[04:11] <anil> what is backports?
[04:11] <Healot> packages kept for backward compatibility
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> hi all
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> i'm trying to change mac adress
[04:11] <cbarth> hi all
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> getting error
[04:12] <simon__> is this english or german?
[04:12] <dick-richardson> Does anyone know how to use ping as a test condition in an if-then statement? I want to ping the server before trying to mount a resource.
[04:12] <dick-richardson> simon__: english
[04:12] <anil> what is rsync?
[04:12] <ana> what is the default browser for ubuntu?
[04:12] <HymnToLife> ana> firefox
[04:12] <dick-richardson> ana: firefox
[04:12] <javiolo> !rsync
[04:12] <ubotu> [rsync]  http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/#Isolation
[04:12] <ana> thanks HymnToLife , dick-richardson  - but is there not a smaller one
[04:12] <ana> ?
[04:12] <anil> how to download xmms skins from apt-get
[04:12] <anil> what is rsync?
[04:13] <anil> how to download xmms skins from apt-get
[04:13] <ana> one that doesn't allow for tabbing?
[04:13] <dick-richardson> lynx /tongue in cheek
[04:13] <tuxtheslacker> hey, how do I install a .deb package?
[04:13] <MiniJames> double click on it
[04:13] <MiniJames> ^^
[04:13] <MiniJames> or you can do it from the terminal
[04:13] <Healot> anil: do rsync of you have a good/fast internet connections
[04:13] <cbarth> hi prob : ubuntu amd64 ndiswrapper ipn2220
[04:13] <tuxtheslacker> MiniJames, from cli...
[04:13] <HymnToLife> ana> I don't think there is
[04:13] <Healot> connection
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> apt-get cache search xmms-skins
[04:13] <HymnToLife> only IE isn't using tabs
[04:13] <MiniJames> dpkg
[04:13] <ghb> Is there any way of killing absolute EVERYTHING except the necessities for being able to open Adept...?
[04:13] <MiniJames> in terminal type: man dpkg
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> anyone know bout changing mac adress?
[04:13] <axel> Hi!
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> ifconfig hw ethX xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[04:14] <javiolo> tuxtheslacker dpkg
[04:14] <ana> thanks HymnToLife - i am going to try epiphany...
[04:14] <MiniJames> tuxtheslacker: in terminal type: man dpkg
[04:14] <SS2> ana: epiphany is the best ;)
[04:14] <anil> how to install mario bros game form apt-get
[04:14] <MiniJames> never!
[04:14] <MiniJames> firefox ftw
[04:14] <MiniJames> :P
[04:14] <javiolo> tuxtheslacker dpkg -i foo.deb
[04:14] <cbarth> gnuboy
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> apt-get cache search mario bros
[04:15] <javiolo> hi, can anyone recommend me a mail notifier ?
[04:15] <MiniJames> :S
[04:15] <cbarth> hmm gkrellm
[04:15] <SS2> MiniJames: kompare firefox & epiphany without there plugins, then you will see who is the best ;)
[04:15] <MiniJames> ah, agreed
[04:15] <MiniJames> but -- i like the plugins ;)
[04:15] <MiniJames> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-cache search
[04:16] <MiniJames> too late :/
[04:16] <anil> my regular question whcih I ask everytime I am here How to connect to internet from GPRS in Ubuntu?
[04:16] <MiniJames> gprs
[04:16] <MiniJames> you mean from a vodaphone laptop card
[04:16] <axel> Hi! I am a complete beginner t
[04:16] <MiniJames> or something like that
[04:16] <kike> hola
[04:16] <axel> ups
[04:17] <kike> espaol?
[04:17] <DBO> !es
[04:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:17] <kike> exit
[04:17] <anil> no from GSM hone?
[04:17] <MiniJames> ah
[04:17] <MiniJames> i havent the faintest idea
[04:17] <anil> no from GSM mobile phone?
[04:17] <axel> again, i am a complete beginner, so my question sounds for sure silly, but how can i create a shortcut to a programm (like kbear) on my Gnome Desktop?
[04:18] <MiniJames> kde question
[04:18] <MiniJames> i dont know :(
[04:18] <SS2> MiniJames: can do that threw the console
[04:18] <SS2> with ln -s
[04:18] <anil> is there any stadard command to edit sudoers file?
[04:18] <MiniJames> SS2: can do what?
[04:18] <SS2> MiniJames: make links
[04:18] <Ng> anil: visudo, but you almost certainly don't want to edit it
[04:18] <ssam> anil, visudo
[04:18] <MiniJames> ah ok
[04:18] <Ng> anil: what do you want to do?
[04:19] <simon__> help me what should  I do with this dat? jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin   that is the java-packet
[04:19] <ssam> axel, is it in the gnome menu already?
[04:20] <anil> apt-get cache search xmms-skins not working says "apt-get cache search xmms-skins"
[04:20] <Healot> make-jpkg <that JRE/JDK filename>
[04:20] <anil> apt-get cache search xmms-skins not working says "apt-get cache search xmms-skins"
[04:20] <SS2> simon__: it is a binary have to give rights to run it
[04:20] <SS2> so chmod 744
[04:20] <peza> anil, apt-cache search
[04:20] <SS2> then run it
[04:20] <axel> ssam: Unfortunatly not.
[04:21] <ssam> axel, ok, right click on the desktop and choose create launcher
[04:22] <axel> Ah, i see! Thank you, ssam!
[04:22] <ssam> axel, put the command as "kbear"
[04:22] <anil> tell me name of any best timepass game which I can install from apt-get
[04:23] <ssam> axel, glad to help
[04:23] <simon__> lol ss2  zu wenige Argumente
[04:23] <simon__> ; not enogh argument what does that mean?
[04:23] <planetguru> I'm in a cyclic dependency hell - two packages are uninstallable, because they rely on eachother.. starting with libqt3-mt and then with libstdc++5  - is there a way out of this please?
[04:23] <SS2> simon__: eh, a german ;) then do: chmod 744 jre*
[04:23] <ssam> planetguru, can you install them both with one command
[04:24] <ssam> anil, whats a timepass game? real time stratergy?
[04:24] <SS2> ssam: silly games ^^
[04:25] <SS2> like neverball, or xmoto <-- thats what I'm playing atm
[04:25] <ssam> SS2, ah, i see
[04:25] <POVaddct> SS2: iMaze :)
[04:25] <SS2> iMaze? don't know that
[04:25] <lauri> br
[04:25] <lauri> ai, preciso de ajuda.
[04:26] <ssam> anil, supertux
[04:26] <ssam> anil, or lbreakout2
[04:26] <POVaddct> SS2: simple multiplayer 3d labyrinth game. very funny if played with 5-8 players :)
[04:26] <simon__> damned
[04:26] <SS2> POVaddct: sounds interresting, but no screenies on the homepage?
[04:27] <lauri> Tive um problema com minha instalao do LINUX UBUNTU e tive que fazer outra instalao e gostaria que a nova enxergasse as parties do linux anterior.
[04:27] <POVaddct> SS2: wait. i can make a screen shot.
[04:27] <SS2> POVaddct: is it in the repository?
[04:27] <SS2> simon__: what happened?
[04:27] <POVaddct> SS2: don't know. if compiled from source.
[04:27] <POVaddct> s/if/i
[04:27] <simon__> ss3 the same sentence
[04:27] <lauri> I need some help
[04:28] <SS2> POVaddct: k
[04:28] <DBO> !es
[04:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:28] <lauri> Could someone help me.
[04:28] <DBO> lauri, what is your native language?
[04:28] <lauri> Portuguese
[04:28] <DBO> uhm... what is that country code?
[04:28] <HymnToLife> !br
[04:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:28] <SS2> po
[04:28] <ssam> !br
[04:28] <SS2> oops :)
[04:28] <axel> Oh, and one last question, i do not dare to hope: A Pinnacle USB PCTV 200e, do you think that i have a chance to get this to work under Ubuntu?
[04:29] <HymnToLife> ssam> u g0t pwn3d :p
[04:29] <simon__> ss2 i think i better can go in a german channel i'm just in the 7th class so i can't speak very well
[04:29] <ssam> HymnToLife, on my screen i got there first :-)
[04:29] <HymnToLife> SS2> Portugal is pr, po is Poland
[04:29] <lauri> DBO, Can you help me?
[04:29] <DBO> lauri, sure, whats your issue
[04:29] <SS2> simon__: then join #ubuntu-de im there
[04:30] <HymnToLife> ssam> you got a pm from the bot telling you I was first :p Some lag mot likely
[04:30] <ssam> HymnToLife, ok you win
[04:30] <lauri> DBO, I had troubles with my Ubuntu and i installed another one in other partition.
[04:30] <anil> any Indian here
[04:30] <SS2> HymnToLife: ok, thx wasn't so shure
[04:30] <DBO> lauri, more detail please =)
[04:31] <lauri> DBO, but the new installation didnt see the other partition.
[04:31] <DBO> lauri, yes, you have to mount the other partition
[04:32] <lauri> DBO, How can i do that?
[04:32] <DBO> !mount
[04:32] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:32] <lauri> DBO, I fascinated with LINUX, but i have no experience in it
[04:32] <anil> tell me name of any best timepass game which I can install from apt-get
[04:33] <DBO> lauri, no problem, check out the wiki, see if you can get it that way (you'll learn best if I just dont feed you commands) and if not come back and see me
[04:33] <HymnToLife> anil> Frozen Bubble
[04:33] <DBO> anil, flobopuyo
[04:33] <new_linux_usr> need help setting up mplayer
[04:33] <anil> dont answerthe question repeted by mistake
[04:33] <lauri> DBO, the partition I need to joint to my new installation is from my old linux partition
[04:33] <SS2> frozen bubble rocks! :)
[04:33] <HymnToLife> !tell new_linux_usr about justask
[04:34] <DBO> lauri, yeah, I know=)  check out the wiki, it shows you how to mount a partition
[04:34] <POVaddct> SS2: http://84.179.94.89:28921/
[04:35] <anil> which is the bset theme for ubuntu?
[04:35] <anil> which is the bset theme for ubuntu(gnome)?
[04:35] <runes> time to install ubuntu 6.06 brb
[04:35] <Healot> human...
[04:35] <Healot> the old 5.04 human
[04:35] <SS2> POVaddct: thx, looks very simple
[04:35] <lauri> DBO, Thanks
[04:35] <HymnToLife> the Breezy one
[04:35] <SS2> and what a theme ;)
[04:35] <POVaddct> SS2: but it's fun
[04:36] <anil> tell me most popular theme for ubuntu(gnome)
[04:36] <DBO> clearlooks
[04:36] <SS2> anil: look at www.gnome-look.org there you will see
[04:36] <anil> no I dont want default, I want popular
[04:37] <Ng> clearlooks isn't the default
[04:37] <Ng> human is the default
[04:37] <Ng> pick a theme you like from gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org
[04:37] <Diiba> Btw, im using ubuntu with xfce 4, and i cant get any icons to my desktop.
[04:37] <Ng> who cares what other people like?
[04:37] <Diiba> Is this normal?
[04:37] <anil> but I dont want installed I want for download, popular?
[04:37] <DBO> Ng, human is the default for ubuntu, clearlooks is the default for a standard gnome install
[04:37] <Ng> DBO: indeed
[04:37] <Ng> Diiba: I don't think xfce renders a desktop as such, but it's a long time since I used it
[04:37] <Diiba> Ok.
[04:37] <Diiba> Thats what i tought.
[04:38] <Ng> anil: go to art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.org - they can probably rank the themes by popularity
[04:38] <Diiba> But it can be the graphics driver too.
[04:38] <Diiba> Tried Damn small linux today.
[04:38] <soundray> Diiba: have you installed and started thunar? I believe that's the nautilus equivalent in xfce..
[04:38] <Healot> damn it;s small
[04:38] <Diiba> No, ill try ty.
[04:38] <anil> I downloaded firefox from mozilla.com, how to install it
[04:39] <anil> I downloaded firefox from mozilla.com, how to install it
[04:39] <Diiba> And for the damn small, it would'nt show the icons either.
[04:39] <Diiba> ...
[04:39] <anil> I extracted it to /opt/firefox
[04:39] <jonkri> i have installed myu printer through system - administration - printer but the test page is not printed. how do i debug this? is there any log files or so?
[04:39] <DBO> !ff1.5
[04:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:39] <Diiba> But in lower resolution it showed.
[04:39] <anil> I can run it wid firefox
[04:39] <Ng> anil: you're still repeating your questions
[04:39] <jonkri> anil, #flood
[04:39] <apokryphos> x/others
[04:39] <apokryphos> eck
[04:39] <anil> when I type in terminal firefox it dont open
[04:39] <Ng> I'm starting to suspect anil is a troll ;)
[04:40] <jonkri> anil, you need to compile it statically
[04:40] <anil> old ff opens
[04:40] <anil> No I am not repeating
[04:40] <DBO> anil, did you look at the wiki?
[04:40] <Ng> anil: follow the instructions ubotu just mentioned
[04:40] <apokryphos> anil: no error message?
[04:40] <apokryphos> anil: oh, you're not using the default firefox?
[04:40] <anil> looking
[04:40] <DBO> apokryphos, hes trying to install the new one, he just needs the wiki page
[04:41] <ramza3__> anybody know a terminal that can has good support for 'readline' and binding to the arrow key.  Most of my cmd-line apps have ^[[A when I hit up
[04:41] <apokryphos> right
[04:41] <anil> apokryphos i installed lib****
[04:41] <apokryphos> what?
[04:41] <anil> but how to change symbolic links
[04:41] <jonkri> how do i install a brother hl-1230 on ubuntu?
[04:41] <apokryphos> anil: what are you talking about?
[04:41] <stjepan> are there any winetools debs?
[04:41] <stjepan> !winetools
[04:41] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan
[04:42] <apokryphos> anil: if you want to install the new firefox, then follow the instructions from ubotu.
[04:42] <anil> ok
[04:43] <apokryphos> stjepan: wiki recommends http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585
[04:44] <Diiba> Btw, can you download thunar with apt-get.
[04:44] <chopchop_> how do i see glxgears output?
[04:44] <Diiba> It doesnt seem to find it from the packages list...
[04:44] <apokryphos> chopchop_: glxgears in a terminal
[04:44] <Diiba> But the official website tells you could :S
[04:44] <chopchop_> apokryphos: yes
[04:45] <apokryphos> that's it
[04:45] <Ng> !tell chopchop_ about glxgears
[04:46] <Ng> Diiba: looks to me like it's not in 5.10 (breezy), but is in 6.06 (dapper, due out next week)
[04:47] <stjepan> apokryphos, tnx
[04:47] <userone> hello everyone...does anyone know how to view someone elses webcam, who is not on Ubuntu. They use Yahoo and MSN on Windows, is there a way to view their webcams?
[04:47] <Healot> ng, is the latest flight of dapper stable enough for you?
[04:48] <chapium> glxgears is in breezy
[04:48] <Ng> Healot: I try not to answer questions like that - it may work with some degree of success on my hardware, but that doesn't really tell you anything useful
[04:48] <Diiba> I feel so stupid... I havent even checked the synaptic.
[04:48] <userone> gnomemetting perhaps?
[04:48] <chapium> what are bad numbers for glxgears?
[04:49] <Diiba> Almost all the things i've been looking for i have found in synaptic.
[04:49] <stjepan> !cedega
[04:49] <apokryphos> Healot: it's really just worth waiting for a week or so until dapper's official
[04:49] <chapium> I'm getting 1200 fps, so i assume thats what its supposed to be
[04:49] <stunit77> can someone help me setup this squid proxy ? or will it even work to gateway xchat?
[04:49] <Ng> stunit77: squid is a web proxy, xchat is an IRC client...
[04:49] <Healot> Ng, i mean, if you have a production machine running breezy, will you upgrade?
[04:49] <stunit77> damn i figured
[04:50] <Ng> Healot: when dapper is released, absolutely
[04:50] <HymnToLife> depends the kind of machine
[04:50] <Crane> yea I have been playing with dapper
[04:50] <HymnToLife> on a server it seems useless
[04:50] <stunit77> i got it working on http but how do i assign it a ip other than localhost?
[04:50] <Healot> sure fligths are not recommended for production
[04:50] <Crane> I did dist-upgrade the other day on test machine
[04:50] <Crane> upgrade went flawless
[04:50] <lesshaste>  is there some way of recording a video of what is happening in an x window?
[04:50] <lesshaste>  like a moving screenshot I suppose :)
[04:51] <Crane> I' never tried recording desktop
[04:51] <Crane> that could be fun
[04:51] <userone> can anyone help with viewing webcams?
[04:51] <Crane> I haven't had any luck with mine
[04:51] <DBO> !webcam
[04:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:52] <stunit77> how can i mask my connect on xchat?
[04:52] <jonkri> i can't find the package 'csh' allthough it's requried by the printer installation instructions. is it ok to use 'tcsh'? thanks
[04:52] <stunit77> wat bouncer
[04:52] <DBO> jonkri, have you enables universe and multiverse repos?
[04:52] <userone> what was this about webcam support in gaim-vv?
[04:52] <BlueEagle> !info csh
[04:52] <ubotu> csh: (Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems), section universe/shells, is optional. Version: 20050313-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 384 kB
[04:53] <userone> will gaim-vv be included in dapper?
[04:53] <jonkri> DBO, no
[04:53] <BlueEagle> !info tcsh
[04:53] <ubotu> tcsh: (TENEX C Shell, an enhanced version of Berkeley csh), section shells, is optional. Version: 6.14.00-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 463 kB, Installed size: 1272 kB
[04:53] <DBO> !tell jonkri about repos
[04:53] <tuxtheslacker> hey, does anyone here use scp?
[04:53] <DBO> check the link ubotu sent you jonkri
[04:53] <jonkri> ok, thanks
[04:53] <DBO> tuxtheslacker, all the time, why?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> jonkri: It appears that tcsh should be compatible with csh as it's an "enhanced" version.
[04:54] <Ng> userone: doesn't look like it
[04:54] <Ng> I think amsn can support webcams though
[04:54] <stunit77> NG how can i mask my connect on xchat a necat server ? or wat bouncer?
[04:54] <tuxtheslacker> DBO, what's the command? /server/home/dir:<ip> /path/to/local/disk ??
[04:54] <dracflamloc> anyone here know of a terminal that acts sorta like the quake console?
[04:55] <njan> dracflamloc, yakuake
[04:55] <DBO> tuxtheslacker, scp /path/to/localfile username@ipaddress:/path/to/remote/file
[04:55] <userone> ng: amsn? Is that an application available through synaptic?
[04:55] <HymnToLife> !info amsn
[04:55] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[04:55] <BlueEagle> dracflamloc: Like scroll in from the top when you press a button?
[04:55] <tuxtheslacker> DBO: I need to get it FROM the server to my local dir.
[04:56] <chapium> it would be nice to have a terminal that pops down from the top by pressing ~ or some other useless key
[04:56] <dracflamloc> BlueEagle, yea
[04:56] <njan> chapium, yakuake
[04:56] <bedboi> hi there
[04:56] <BlueEagle> dracflamloc: I would believe you would want a panel application for that tbh. Haven't seen one, but that's a neat idea.
[04:56] <DBO> tuxtheslacker, just reverse the two parts
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> DBO: thanks :-)
[04:57] <njan> BlueEagle, yakuake
[04:57] <njan> :P
[04:57] <chapium> cool :D
[04:57] <BlueEagle> njan: ?
[04:58] <njan> BlueEagle, yakuake. http://yakuake.uv.ro/
[04:58] <chapium> KCrash: Application 'yakuake' crashing...
[04:58] <chapium> :(
[04:58] <dracflamloc> works for me
[04:58] <dracflamloc> thanks njan
[04:58] <njan> yvw
[04:58] <dracflamloc> know of a way to set a background?
[04:58] <BlueEagle> !info kuake
[04:58] <njan> dracflamloc, right-click on the terminal
[04:58] <ubotu> kuake: (Console which looks like Quake game console), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.3-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 248 kB
[04:58] <BlueEagle> !info yakuake
[04:59] <ubotu> yakuake: (an alternative KDE console resembling those found in Quake), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2.6-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 344 kB
[04:59] <njan> dracflamloc, it's based on konsole, you can do anything in it you can in konsole
[04:59] <chapium> Something is goofy with yakuake, its all static like
[04:59] <BlueEagle> dracflamloc: It looks like there's one if you're running kubuntu :)
[04:59] <Archville> Hi.
[05:00] <tuxtheslacker> ahahahaha! updatedb on an RHEL server that hasn't had it done in 2 years takes a little while... :-P
[05:00] <userone> I just looked at the gaim homepage, and there is no mention of a gaim-vv or webcam support?
[05:00] <MiniJames> ubuntu webcam support isnt brilliant
[05:00] <MiniJames> from what ive heard
[05:00] <Archville> I think there is still no webcam support.
[05:01] <MiniJames> you can receive webcam with amsn ;)
[05:01] <Archville> But, you can use it with amsn.
[05:01] <MiniJames> ^^
[05:01] <chapium> njan: yakuake works much better with konsole installed :D
[05:01] <OlliK> amsn?
[05:01] <MiniJames> sudo apt-cache search amsn
[05:01] <njan> chapium, it isn't a dependency?
[05:01] <chapium> nope
[05:01] <OlliK> msn sucks
[05:01] <BlueEagle> njan: I wonder how well that will work with the cygwin x-server over ssh. :)
[05:01] <MiniJames> its not that bad :)
[05:01] <chapium> i think something else is broken though.. its missing some graphics or something
[05:01] <Healot> MiniJames: don't say that. most manufacturers of webcams are to blame, they just don't do OS independent hardware
[05:02] <userone> minijames: amsn will only work with MSN I take it? What about Yahoo?
[05:02] <njan> chapium, are you a gnome user?
[05:02] <njan> chapium, I wouldn't be installing it in gnome.. you probably need half of kde to make it work
[05:02] <njan> BlueEagle, don't be evil :P
[05:02] <dracflamloc> can it pop out the bottom of the screen?
[05:03] <jonkri> i've followed the instruction in the second post in http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/3009 and the printer appears in the printing window... but when i try to print a test page nothing happens! please help me solve this
[05:03] <Grout58> how well does windows run under paralells?
[05:03] <DBO> Grout58, no idea, but my only stable WinXP install to date has been in KQemu
[05:04] <tuxtheslacker> Grout58, are you talking about is OSX? I dind't know they had a parallels for *nix...
[05:04] <njan> dracflamloc, not afaik
[05:04] <rod>  is there a way to make the original grapical bittorrent app which comes with dapper make use of a different port beside the standard one?
[05:05] <dracflamloc> njan, no biggie, it's pretty sweet.
[05:05] <Grout58> its paraellels workstation right?
[05:05] <njan> dracflamloc, I like it. And it does tabs :)
[05:05] <dracflamloc> yea i noticed
[05:05] <njan> dracflamloc, my main niggle is that I can't persistently name tabs.
[05:05] <dracflamloc> hm
[05:05] <Grout58> http://www.parallels.com/en/download/
[05:05] <dracflamloc> could be an easy option to add
[05:05] <Grout58> is that the right parallells?
[05:05] <tripppy> how long after dapper is out. can i request a cd sent to me?
[05:05] <jonkri> does anyone know anything about printers? :)
[05:05] <njan> tripppy, you can now
[05:06] <Healot> one more week, trippy
[05:06] <tripppy> get dapper stable?
[05:06] <njan> tripppy, afaik it will get sent out once it's released.
[05:06] <MiniJames> hm
[05:06] <Healot> CDs would be sent within 3 - 6 weeks
[05:06] <ccc_> tripppy: you can order one now
[05:06] <Grout58> dapper is still comming out june 1st right?
[05:06] <MiniJames> yah
[05:06] <BlueEagle> njan: Well, with the rootwindow shown it works ok, but that's just nasty. :p
[05:06] <userone> I found this:
[05:06] <MiniJames> look @ the wiki
[05:06] <userone> I found this: Oct 07, 2005 - Forward potr of gaim-vv 1.2.0 to gaim cvs head is working. I would like to clarify that gaim-vv isn't completely dead, we're working on merging with gaim. There will be no further gaim-vv releases, as code will be added to the main gaim program.
[05:07] <userone> Anyone know any latest news on this project?
[05:07] <Grout58> so is this Parallels Workstation 2.1 for Linux the same parallels i've been hearing about for osx?
[05:08] <amado> buenas
[05:08] <amado> nadie que hable espaol?
[05:08] <amado> xD
[05:10] <BlueEagle> amado: #ubuntu-es por favor
[05:10] <ramza3__> is it readline I need for the 'up arrow' to work with my console applications, This is on dapper?
[05:10] <DBO> !dapper
[05:10] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[05:10] <visik7> where is the Xft font in dapper ?
[05:10] <BlueEagle> ramza3__: #ubuntu+1 please.
[05:11] <ramza3__> BlueEagle: what if I use breezy too?
[05:11] <ramza3__> oooo
[05:11] <amado> cagon todo
[05:11] <BlueEagle> ramza3__: Then you can ask breezy questions in here and dapper questions in ubuntu+1 like I do.
[05:11] <amado> esto es una mierda
[05:11] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell amado about spanish
[05:11] <ramza3__> elitists
[05:11] <Larsson-Sweden>  Im using TV-out and a Radeon card with fglrx driver. fireglcontrol (ATI control panel) thinks that my TV-out is another monitor. "Dualscreen" is aviable but no tab with TV-out options. There was a tv-out option for a week ago but its gone.
[05:11] <BlueEagle> !spanish
[05:11] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[05:12] <BlueEagle> hmm..
[05:12] <BlueEagle> I thougth ubotu had that one.
[05:12] <BlueEagle> !espaniol
[05:12] <ubotu> BlueEagle: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:12] <amado> que dices blueagle?
[05:12] <Bazzi> BlueEagle: ubotu has !es
[05:12] <Bazzi> !+es
[05:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:12] <BlueEagle> amado: /join #ubuntu-es por favor
[05:12] <amado> aaa
[05:12] <BlueEagle> bazzi: thanks.
[05:13] <amado> thanks
[05:13] <amado> :D
[05:14] <rod>  is there a way to make the original grapical bittorrent app which comes with dapper make use of a different port beside the standard one?
[05:16] <Larsson-Sweden> Can i have one x-server with fglrx, and another x-server with vesa at the same time?
[05:17] <Ng> Larsson-Sweden: in theory, yes, but you may well find that the ati drivers really hate it
[05:18] <MisterN> hi
[05:18] <flossgeek> How does one add two linux distributions to there hardrive
[05:18] <flossgeek> i have breezy installed and now want to install dapper on my 20G of free space
[05:19] <soundray> I have a motherboard with ATI graphics and PCIe. Xgl doesn't work. Should I buy an NVidia card or an ATI again?
[05:19] <flossgeek> spundray NVDIA are better for linux
[05:19] <rpedro> how can I change the language locale of just the current user in gnome? I can do it in kde but in gnome I can only find the administration panel to change it for the login screen and new user accounts.
[05:19] <soundray> flossgeek: just start the installation, tell it to go in the free space.
[05:19] <soundray> flossgeek: thanks
[05:19] <Larsson-Sweden> Ng, ok. Well the problem i have is that there are tearing in videos. I am using the fglrx driver and when trying non-tearing video drivers such as vidix or XV, there is only a blank image where the video should be on my TV. I can use the gl2 driver and enable vsync in driconf, but then i only get non-tearing on my monitor and tearing on my TV. Was thinking about using fbxine with vidix driver cause that would solve my problem, but i only get a "Video
[05:19] <Larsson-Sweden> port failed" error message. Do you have any ideas?
[05:20] <soundray> rpedro: set it at the login screen.
[05:20] <flossgeek> at current i have a /root partition thats bootable, a /home partition and a swap which rins breezy
[05:20] <flossgeek> i now want to add dapper to my free space for testing
[05:20] <Ng> Larsson-Sweden: erk, I'm not sure there's much you can do to work around that, short of changing the graphics card for something that isn't ati, but I'm not terribly familiar with their drivers I'm afraid
[05:20] <rpedro> soundray: ah, ok :)
[05:21] <flossgeek> do i need another swap?
[05:21] <flossgeek> im not use to the g-parted thing either
[05:21] <soundray> flossgeek: if you install dapper, it will recognize your existing installation and set up grub so it can boot breezy as well as dapper.
[05:21] <anil> hwo to make xmms my default music player
[05:21] <anil> hwo to make xmms my default music player
[05:21] <Larsson-Sweden> Ok, but does anyone know why fbxine wont work with Ubuntu? It worked when i was using Suse. It was killer to run videos in fb.
[05:21] <Ng> flossgeek: you should be able to reuse the existing swap partition
[05:21] <flossgeek> ok soundray, and Ng
[05:21] <soundray> flossgeek: if your free space is unpartitioned, you won't need gparted.
[05:21] <NoUse> anil please don't repeat
[05:22] <IcemanV9> !patience
[05:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[05:23] <flossgeek> with dapper it forces me to use g-parted
[05:23] <flossgeek> as i click install icon from desktop
[05:23] <anil> how to make xmms my default music player?
[05:23] <npmccallum> What package do I need to install in order to get PDO support for php5 in dapper?
[05:23] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone know how to run a command as a user other than root on boot up?
[05:24] <paradizelost> npmccallum: try ubuntu+1
[05:24] <NoUse> anil, right click on the music file, properties and then there is a tab wher eyou can define that
[05:24] <paradizelost> #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <Ng> paradizelost: each user can have their own "crontab" (commands that get run by cron) and you can specify a date/time of "@reboot" and it will get run when the machine boots as the user that owns the crontab
[05:24] <npmccallum> paradizelost: thanks
[05:24] <jackson> differents in ubuntuand other opereting sytem?
[05:24] <Ng> paradizelost: (to edit a user's crontab, run "crontab -e" as that user and have a read of man crontab)
[05:25] <Archville> Hi.
[05:25] <Archville> How do i set gDesklets not to autostart with gnome ?
[05:25] <paradizelost> Ng: so instead of the * * * * * * stuff, i just put @reboot?
[05:25] <Ng> paradizelost: pretty much, yeah :)
[05:25] <Ng> Archville: kill it and log out, saving your settings
[05:25] <paradizelost> Archville: check your sessions under system->preferences
[05:26] <Archville> paradizelost: thanks, found it. :)
[05:26] <chopchop_> i have downloaded a gtk2 theme from xfce4 and copied it to /usr/share/themes/, but it does not work when i try to switch to it in xfce. any solution?
[05:29] <new_linux_usr> where do I find subfont.ttf
[05:29] <saquib> >> My system freezes while accessing WEBCAM....! what to do?
[05:30] <paradizelost> new_linux_usr: try a   find / -name subfont.ttf
[05:30] <visik7> new_linux_usr: try apt-file
[05:30] <paradizelost> saquib: unplug the webcam... ;):P
[05:30] <arikato> saquib: and try boot while webcam is connected if you are lucky it will work (atleast worked for me)
[05:30] <saquib> >> it freezes WHEN it accesses the webcam! not always.. like in msn if i want to us ethe webcam, it will freeze!
[05:32] <new_linux_usr> i can't get mplayer to work.  It says "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)."
[05:32] <paradizelost> new_linux_usr: have you tried running mplayer w/ sudo in the past?
[05:33] <paradizelost> cuz that could cause problems
[05:33] <Ng> new_linux_usr: that error is unlikely to be causing whatever problem you are seeing, but you can just copy any truetype font file to the location it mentions and it will be quiet
[05:33] <new_linux_usr> no, not yet
[05:33] <new_linux_usr> alrighty
[05:34] <saquib> new_linux_usr, here's what u can do... Go to /usr/share/fonts/truetype ... get to a .ttf file, copy it to home folder, and from the pref of ure mplayer, locate and select that ttf file!
[05:34] <saquib> thats it
[05:34] <jackson> what are the differents between ubuntu and other opareting system?
[05:34] <njan> jackson, ubuntu uses brown wallpaper.
[05:35] <jani_> :D
[05:35] <chavo> mmmmm brown!
[05:35] <Ng> jackson: that's an enormously vague question ;)
[05:37] <paradizelost> jackson: what makes a computer different than an abacus?
[05:38] <jani_> it uses electricity? :)
[05:38] <snyyd> Does Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 LTS PC (Intel x86) text-mode install CD have the GUI partitioner and boot screen? (Like previous install CDs) I'm a bit thrown off by the "text-mode install"
[05:39] <hav0k> ive got my windows partition mounted and i was trying to navigate to the Program Files throught the terminal, but it wont let me saying, "bash: cd: Program: No such file or directory"
[05:39] <hav0k> how can i get to it?
[05:39] <paradizelost> snyyd: text mode install means just that
[05:39] <paradizelost> it's all text
[05:39] <paradizelost> no gui
[05:39] <BlueEagle> hav0k: cd "Program files"
[05:39] <POVaddct> hav0k: cd "Program Files"
[05:39] <hav0k> put it in quotes then
[05:39] <BlueEagle> hav0k: cd program\ files
[05:39] <paradizelost> hav0k: you need quotes, or just make use of bash's tab completion
[05:39] <POVaddct> hav0k: or simple cd Prog<TAB>
[05:39] <BlueEagle> hav0k: or escape the space
[05:40] <hav0k> ah, good point
[05:40] <hav0k> i didnt know it had that
[05:40] <snyyd> paradizelost: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=gfxboot-small.png
[05:40] <hav0k> thanks guys
[05:40] <snyyd> paradizelost: So why does it have that shot on he dapperbeta page?
[05:41] <paradizelost> snyyd: that's probably installing from the livecd
[05:41] <snyyd> paradizelost: It specifically says "installation CD"
[05:42] <paradizelost> "installation CD" doesn't mean the i386 text mode installation cd
[05:42] <paradizelost> because IIRC, the livecd's w/ dapper are now supporting installing from them
[05:43] <NoUse> paradizelost the live cd is the "preferred" installation method as of dapper
[05:43] <snyyd> It's a bit confusing.
[05:44] <jani_> i still prefer the install cd than the livecd...
[05:44] <paradizelost> same here.
[05:45] <Archville> I still miss the feature of installing just the packages you want.
[05:45] <jani_> the livecd dont include some of my partitions as an available partition to have the distro installed
[05:45] <roast> is there a 'bundled' package name for the [basic]  development tools such as make, gcc3, etc.?
[05:46] <Archville> roast: build-essential
[05:46] <paradizelost> roast: see Archville ^^
[05:46] <Archville> I would like to be able for example to: [x]  do not install openoffice
[05:46] <Archville> And some other packages.
[05:47] <roast> Archville, paradizelost: aha. thanks.
[05:47] <roast> Archville, paradizelost: I'm still used to the old debian task- packages unfortunately
[05:47] <Archville> :)
[05:47] <paradizelost> roast: also, for a lot of things, you'll need your linux-headers-`uname -r` as well
[05:48] <Larsson-Sweden> Why does not fbxine work in Ubuntu? It says "Video port failed" when trying to play a video. How can this be solved?
[05:48] <roast> paradizelost: I'll keep that in mind
[05:51] <yggdrasil> dapper is so sweet
[05:51] <yggdrasil> Host 'Mia', running Linux 2.6.15-23-386 - Cpu0: Pentium MMX 234 MHz; Up: 8:27; Users: 3; Load: 0.00; Free: [Mem: 1/59 Mio]  [Swap: 154/173 Mio]  [/: 3008/3876 Mio] ; Vpenis: 10.2 cm;
[05:52] <jonkri> i've followed the instruction in the second post in http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/3009 and the printer appears in the printing window... but when i try to print a test page nothing happens! please help me solve this, i'm at my grandfathers house and need to fix his printer :) brother hl-1230
[05:54] <fannygm> oLAAAA
[05:55] <godzirra> is there a way to see what version of a package will be installed before installing it?
[05:55] <fannygm> olaaaaaaa
[05:55] <jonkri> fannygm, shut up
[05:55] <fannygm> eeeeeeeeee
[05:55] <jonkri> man kill
[05:55] <fannygm> no entiendo
[05:56] <ubuntu_> no
[05:56] <Ng> godzirra: apt-cache show somepackagename - that will show you all the versions available (so most likely the one you have installed and the newest in the archives)
[05:56] <godzirra> thanks Ng.
[06:00] <interprb> Hi all, can anyone tell me which files to look for in the boot process that would request an "a" record to a  domain.
[06:01] <J_P> hi all
[06:02] <kyle__> hi all, hoping someone can help me -im running Breezy on an HP compaq nx4300, and im a newbie (sorry1).  All is going smoothly, but i can get sound working.  Ive googled for days, but no solution works.  Any ideas?
[06:03] <kyle__> :cant get sound working
[06:03] <unperson> kyle__:  Can you be a bit more specific about what is happening?  E.g. what program have you tried to play sound with?
[06:04] <EnTeQuAk> hi @ all :)
[06:04] <unperson> Have you gotten any error messages?
[06:04] <Intangir> hey guys, how can i make an .iso boot off of a usb flash stick?
[06:05] <kyle__> i've treid totem, mplayer and the standard CD player and they all play the files/cd but no sound comes from the speakers.  I runa a dualboot setup, and the sound works in windows so i think it must be a driver issue
[06:05] <DBO> Intangir, that is very hard to do since you have to get the USB drivers loaded at a different time than normal, it can be done, but its easier just to use DSL's installer
[06:05] <Ng> kyle__: possibly a silly question, but have you fired up a mixer and made sure things aren't just set to 0 or muted?
[06:06] <kyle__> LOL, i checked the mixers and everything is crancked right up
[06:06] <Ng> good good
[06:06] <unperson> Ng:  That was going to be my next question too. :-)
[06:06] <Ng> I know it's silly, but sometiems the mixers default to very daft values
[06:06] <J_P> people, What app I use to run one file.swf on ubuntu ?
[06:06] <kyle__> lol - thanks! im stumped on this one - im new to this, and this has been my only hickup!
[06:07] <unperson> kyle__:  If you fun one of those programs from the command line, do you see any error messages?
[06:07] <kyle__> no errors at all, they all run fine - just no sound ;)
[06:07] <crimsun> kyle__: pastebin ``amixer'' output
[06:07] <unperson> BTW, anyone here use eqe, the latex-based equation editor?
[06:08] <kyle__> crimsun - sorry, im a complete newbie not sure what you mean
[06:08] <Mysta_> anyone see that ATI released new drivers?
[06:08] <crimsun> kyle__: open a Terminal, type amixer, paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and tell me the url
[06:08] <kyle__> ok, thanks - gimme a sec
[06:09] <EnTeQuAk> can anyone help me? I have updated to Dapper and now... if I start my PC he freezed when he used to mount the root filesystem... what can I do?
[06:10] <DBO> !dapper
[06:10] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[06:11] <kyle__> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14629
[06:12] <ompaul> DBO what is stranger is named -v tells you the version of bind, and don't ask the other, I still have not figured out why that happens
[06:12] <XTF> Hi. Where can I change the max screen resolution shown in the screen resolution dialog?
[06:12] <crimsun> kyle__: amixer 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[06:12] <crimsun> kyle__: sorry, amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[06:12] <DBO> ompaul, once more with grammar
[06:13] <HymnToLife> DBO> what's wrong with his grammar ?
[06:13] <DBO> wait... i cant read
[06:14] <ompaul> DBO what is stranger (referring to your !dapper, in other words random stranger) is >>named -v <<  tells you the version of bind, and don't ask the other (implying bind -v), I still have not figured out why that happens
[06:14] <unperson> XTF: I think you need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[06:14] <kyle__> crimson: whats the easiest way to fix it?
[06:15] <crimsun> kyle__: I gave you the command (use the second version)
[06:15] <ompaul> DBO, I think it is keybindings but I have no idea
[06:15] <kyle__> crimsun: still not go mate
[06:16] <DBO> ompaul, beats me my friend...
[06:16] <ompaul> DBO aka I found something I don't know the answer to nor how to find it
[06:16] <freezey> i am trying to remove apache2 from this pc to reinstall it but /etc/apache2 still stays there
[06:16] <DBO> google =)  it knows the answer to everything =P
[06:16] <freezey> do i just have to remove the whole dir?
[06:16] <crimsun> kyle__: you may need to mute 'External Amplifier' then
[06:17] <crimsun> kyle__: I have a meeting in 5 minutes, so I have to go.
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Did you try the purge option?
[06:17] <freezey> na
[06:17] <freezey> so sudo apt-get remove -p apache2?
[06:17] <kyle__> crimsun: no problem, thank you though!
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> apt-get remove --purge apache2
[06:17] <tubbie> DBO, LOL
[06:17] <Intangir> hey guys, can you resize a partition, WITHOUT LOSING IT, before installing ubuntu?
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, with sudo.
[06:17] <Intangir> during the installer?
[06:17] <ompaul> Question: what is driving "bind -v" to give the results it does
[06:17] <utilisateur> ibrashka
[06:18] <yggdrasil> how do i perform a search in a man page.. thought it was #
[06:18] <DBO> ompaul, good question...
[06:18] <NoUse> Intangir you can with gparted
[06:18] <freezey> yeah when i try to purge it it says its gone
[06:18] <XTF> unperson: Thanks. Is there no user-friendlier way to do this?
[06:18] <freezey> but /etc/apache2 still there
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> Intangir: If you have the empty space to do the resize without cutting into the data, sure.  Backups are always a good idea though of course.
[06:18] <kyle__> crimsun: YOU BEAUTY!  she worked!
[06:18] <kyle__> cheers all
[06:19] <Intangir> tonyyarusso: does it use gparted during the install ?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Well, I suppose you could just remove that then.
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Intangir: No.
[06:19] <NoUse> !tell Intangir about gparted
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> (The install is text-based.)
[06:19] <squiddle> yggdrasil  it is /
[06:19] <freezey> tonyyarusso: with just a regular rmdir type shit
[06:19] <yggdrasil> squiddle thanks
[06:19] <unperson> XTF:  dpkg-reconfigure is actually not all THAT un-userfriendly, as I recall.
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Yeah.
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Intangir: You can use GParted from a live cd before the installer though.
[06:20] <Intangir> im running gparted right now
[06:20] <new_linux_usr> how do i stream asx files on linux?
[06:20] <freezey> tonyyarusso:whats that command to do when it tells ur dir not empty
[06:20] <Intangir> but i am just nervous cause its an old version in the debian repos
[06:20] <Intangir> i just told it to resize
[06:20] <unperson> XTF:  The problem is that the selection of possible resolutions is in the config file for the graphical user interface, so you sort of need to change it from outside the GUI.
[06:20] <Intangir> i hope its working right now.. doesnt seem to be saying it worked yet
[06:20] <DBO> ompaul, because the bind command you are refering to is not for BIND
[06:20] <squiddle> new_linux_usr  you can use vlc if it can read asx
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Um, something like --ignore-error-on-non-empty.  check the man
[06:21] <DBO> ompaul, the bind command allows you to change the editing keys, editing options, and make keyboard macros
[06:21] <unperson> XTF:  Once the resolution is in the list, then switching to it is easy as pie.
[06:21] <squiddle> ompaul  bind is a bash built-in
[06:21] <XTF> unperson: Why? IMO a GUI editor for that config shouldn't be impossible.
[06:21] <new_linux_usr> thanks
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Ah, rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty (it's right at the top)
[06:22] <freezey> tonyyarusso: yeah that ignores it but its still there
[06:22] <cliebow_> anyone know hot ot lock down gdm to only icewm?
[06:22] <Intangir> i guess it ran.
[06:22] <Intangir> gonna reboot
[06:22] <unperson> XTF:  Well, you can certainly edit the config file from within the GUI, but you have to reset the GUI in order for changes to take effect.
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Did you have sudo on the rmdir?
[06:23] <freezey> tonyyarusso: yeah
[06:23] <unperson> XTF:  And presumably you DON'T want somethning to go wrong mid-edit.
[06:23] <unperson> XTF:  The menu-driven interface of dpkg-reconfigure is really not too bad, though.  Just a little tedious.
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> freezey: Weird.  Try 'sudo rm -R /etc/apache2/* && sudo rmdir /etc/apache2' then.
[06:24] <shoe> Hi, I'm having problems with resizing an ext3 fs. I've tried both mounted (ext2online) and unmounted (ext2resize) and both fail. One worse than the other. ext2resize even segfaults.. :/
[06:24] <shoe> Appreciate any input anyone has on this ..
[06:24] <NoUse> shoe try gparted from a live cd
[06:25] <unperson> XTF:  It's also possible there's an easier way I'm unaware of.
[06:25] <HymnToLife> NoUse> Parted can't resize ext, it's a very risky operation
[06:25] <shoe> NoUse: the problem is that I've already added a PV to the volumegroup. Oh, sorry sould have mentioned I'm doing this with LVM2.
[06:26] <karim> is it possible de pass options like -tune=cpu-type to dpkg-buildpackage ?
[06:26] <NoUse> HymnToLife http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[06:27] <Shionuma> hia ll, im hoping someone could help me because im kind of new to this - i have breezy instaleld, and things are running great , but i cant seem to get my internal SD card reader to show up - any ideas?
[06:27] <new_linux_usr> got it streaming.  thanks a lot, squiddle
[06:27] <shoe> Everything went fine, adding the PV to the VG and running lvextend -L+100G etc..
[06:27] <eduedix> can you pls give me an example kernel and initrd line in grub.conf ?
[06:27] <angel_> sii
[06:27] <angel_> que
[06:27] <angel_> pasa
[06:27] <angel_> nee
[06:27] <angel_> es la primera vez
[06:27] <angel_> y
[06:27] <angel_>  creo
[06:27] <angel_> que
[06:27] <ompaul> dbo squiddle thanks
[06:27] <angel_> me
[06:27] <Ng> !es
[06:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:28] <angel_> ok
[06:28] <shoe> HymnToLife: yeah, I know.. I tried on a separate test fs a while ago (under RHELES4) and that worked flawlessly. This time it simply doesn't.
[06:29] <shoe> HymnToLife: And I tried to do it without having the fs mounted. That should work ok from what I understand..
[06:29] <eduedix> can you pls give me an example kernel and initrd line in grub.conf ?
[06:29] <squiddle> eduedix initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-20-686
[06:30] <squiddle> eduedix  kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-20-686 root=/dev/sda6 ro resume=/dev/sda7 single
[06:30] <shoe> This is what I did: root@cat:~# ext2resize -v /dev/Vol00/storage
[06:30] <eduedix> squiddle: whats resume here ?
[06:30] <squiddle> eduedix  its for hibernating, but i think it is not needed at all :)
[06:30] <shoe> And this is the result.. :relocating blocks.... ........ don't need relocation for group 0 .. ext2resize: couldn't flush! .. .etc. etc. and in the end: Segmentation fault
[06:31] <shoe> root@cat:~# fsck /dev/Vol00/storage
[06:31] <eduedix> squiddle: ah.. but i dont get why kernel panics when it tries to boot my /dev/sda6 .. ubuntu is
[06:31] <shoe> /dev/Vol00/storage: clean, 13466/52723712 files, 89815176/105430016 blocks
[06:31] <eduedix> installed in it
[06:31] <shoe> Looks ok to me.
[06:31] <David_M> I'm having a problem with dapper.  i'm getting a message on shutdown that is preventing shutdown from completing.  the message is something like unregistered_netdevice: waiting for... eth0
[06:32] <David_M> anyone else run across this?
[06:32] <wims> what's the command for installing .deb packages again ?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[06:32] <ubotu> I guess apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:32] <David_M> dpgk -i <package name>
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> BOokmark those sites. :P
[06:33] <Bilange> wims:  dpkg -i package name (or dpkg --install packagename)
[06:33] <Ng> wims: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:33] <wims> David_M,  thank you
[06:33] <yggdrasil> how do i mnake a launcher for my gnome panel that launches eterm and then does ssh bleh.bleh.blah -o keepalive=yes
[06:33] <yggdrasil> i tried but it just lauches eterm
[06:33] <Ng> yggdrasil: probably eterm -e ssh blah
[06:33] <yggdrasil> ill try it
[06:33] <Ng> check the man page for the option to make it execute a command
[06:34] <yggdrasil> yea that worked ng
[06:34] <yggdrasil> thnks
[06:34] <Ng> :)
[06:34] <ramza3> is there a way to update through apt from firefox 1.0.8 to FF1.5?
[06:34] <Ng> ramza3: no, but you can do it manually
[06:35] <Ng> !tell ramza3 about ff1.5
[06:35] <flossgeek> no ramaz
[06:35] <ramza3> Ng: manually...ahhhhhh
[06:35] <flossgeek> you need the wiki guide
[06:35] <Ng> ramza3: or you could wait a week until dapper is out and upgrade to that :)
[06:35] <papillon> !tell papillon about ff1.5
[06:35] <ramza3> noooooooooooooooo
[06:36] <flossgeek> ramaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?action=show&redirect=FireFox
[06:36] <flossgeek> i dont seem to be able to update on dapper
[06:36] <David_M> I'm having a problem with dapper.  i'm getting a message on shutdown that is preventing shutdown from completing.  the message is something like unregistered_netdevice: waiting for... eth0
[06:36] <David_M> The device is an Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG
[06:36] <flossgeek> have the repos changed
[06:36] <Klaidas> !tell Klaidas about putty
[06:37] <karim> is it possible de pass options like -tune=cpu-type to dpkg-buildpackage ?
[06:37] <zool2005> I reorganized the partitions on my computer e.g. shunted Windo$e on to another drive, now when I upgrade kernel I have to manually edit menu.lst so the computer will boot properly
[06:37] <David_M> flossgeek:  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[06:37] <David_M> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[06:37] <David_M> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[06:37] <David_M> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[06:38] <Klaidas> !tell Klaidas about screen
[06:38] <David_M> etc etc etc
[06:38] <I_Eat_Plastic> how cab I get oss emulation with alsa?
[06:38] <teferra> tried to sign the code of conduct. I fallowed the instuctions at lounchpad and i get "no public key" error
[06:38] <zool2005> does anyone know how I can get the update manager to do this automatically
[06:38] <Klaidas> !tell Klaidas about irssi
[06:38] <Sweet_kate> hello everybody
[06:38] <I_Eat_Plastic> Hello.
[06:39] <teferra> tried to sign the code of conduct. I fallowed the instuctions at lounchpad and i get "no public key" error. why meeeeeeee????
[06:40] <NoUse> teferra you probably need a GPG key
[06:40] <Sweet_kate> if i right-click on desktop it  does not appear the menu that once appeared!! hopw can i restore it??
[06:40] <NoUse> !tell teferra about gpg
[06:41] <shoe> I give up.. lvreduce worked fine anyway. :)
[06:41] <Klaidas> ubotu no, irssi is A terminal based IRC client. To install: sudo apt-get install irssi. Website: http://www.irssi.org/
[06:41] <ubotu> Klaidas: okay
[06:41] <teferra> i kreated the key and used to generate the txt
[06:41] <shoe> Will read up on gparted. Thanks NoUse.
[06:41] <David_M> anyone know how I might go about fixing an unregistered_netdevice error on shutdown?
[06:45] <Klaidas> !tell Klaidas about irc
[06:45] <Larsson-Sweden> Anyone using fbxine here? It only says "Video port failed" when trying to play a video.
[06:45] <ompaul> amgad, Turn that away off now thanks
[06:46] <Klaidas> !tell Klaidas about wiki
[06:46] !lilo:*! Hi all.... need Turkish <-> English translation assistance, please message me
[06:46] <chronos_> hello
[06:46] <ompaul> !tell Klaidas about msgthebot
[06:46] <teferra> NoUse I generated the gpg key. used it to sign the code of conduct. when i submit it at loncupad i get no public key error from lounchpad.
[06:46] <Klaidas> oh ok :) sorry
[06:47] <ompaul> chronos_, hello, and how is Zeus these days?
[06:48] <ompaul> Klaidas, you know now, you didn't then :-)
[06:49] <Crane> what is with all the itelling
[06:49] <Crane> or !telling rather
[06:49] <Ng> Crane: ubotu is our friendly neighborhood helper bot and it can tell people things rather than us retype the same explanations a few dozen times a day :)
[06:49] <Ng> !tell Crane about ubotu
[06:50] <Crane> very cool feature
[06:50] <ompaul> Crane, its the channel bot, you can find out stuff with >>/msg ubotu KeyWord<< so it does not turn up in the channel
[06:50] <Crane> It's been a while since I have been on this channel
[06:51] <Crane> very cool that can be very handy!
[06:52] <Kilter> morning all.  I want to add a new user that can only access it's own home directory.  how do I do that?
[06:52] <disinterested_pe> dont come in here / announcing im here now every thing will be better lol
[06:54] <XTF>  Is there a way to fix the 'sudo: timestamp is too far in the future' error without fiddling with the system time?
[06:54] <rambo3> do you own a timemachine?
[06:55] <Firezip> hey
[06:55] <ompaul> is for horses, welcome to #ubuntu ;-)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[06:56] <ruggy> huh?
[06:56] <ompaul> !tumbleweed
[06:56] <ubotu> ompaul: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:56] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, guess yours is more valid
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> rambo3,  i had one - but i sold it to my earlier self.. for real real cheap.. so  now i have 2. :P
[06:56] <XTF> rambo3: No. :( The system clock wasn't in GMT and NTP corrected the clock, which caused this error.
[06:57] <flossgeek> on Dapper I dont seem to be able to update from synaptic I get this when trying to install inkscape "http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapperRelease.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[06:57] <flossgeek> is it the gpg key
[06:58] <tubbie> is there any software like excel for Ubuntu other then the one from openoffice?
[06:58] <kung> koffice calc?
[06:58] <kung> oh, well that would be kubuntu
[06:58] <tubbie> I don't use kde
[06:58] <tubbie> I prefer gnome applications or GTK
[06:58] <DBO> Gnumeric
[06:59] <flossgeek> why not openoffice one tubbie
[06:59] <lalcaraz> Hi! I'm running on 5.10 but I want to upgrade Firefox and other stuff on the easy way, any help here??
[06:59] <Mysta_> I've loaded the linux-686-smp kernel, and my machine locks up as soon as I login to the Gnome. any ideas why this is happening
[06:59] <flossgeek> lalcaraz you could use automatix
[06:59] <DBO> no!
[06:59] <DBO> !automatix
[06:59] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[06:59] <tubbie> openoffice is too  slow
[06:59] <Firezip_> How come I can't download off of azurez?
[07:00] <hastesaver> flossgeek, don't ever do that again!
[07:00] <flossgeek> sorry
[07:00] <hastesaver> flossgeek, :)
[07:00] <flossgeek> didnt realise
[07:00] <lalcaraz> thnx, i'll google it...
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Mysta_,  reinstall the nvidia drivers? (if using nvidia)
[07:00] <flossgeek> ive used it just for open office upgrade in breezy
[07:00] <rambo3> login with other kernel and chen log files. my wifi driver locked smp kernel  before,
[07:00] <Mysta_> dr_willis: thx for the response, I'm using ATI
[07:00] <Mysta_> how would i do that
[07:00] <flossgeek> on Dapper I dont seem to be able to update from synaptic I get this when trying to install inkscape "http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapperRelease.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[07:00] <DBO> flossgeek, you are lucky, its hosed many a system
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[07:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:01] <wims> are there any unix command for finding out the time ?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> !bash
[07:01] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[07:01] <_mason> Could anyone explain why in John the ripper i recieved two results from 1 LM hash? eg (    ***   (Administrator:2)   *** (Administrator:1)  )
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Wims try 'date'
[07:01] <rambo3> Mysta_, .> faile safe boot . apt-get install linux-image-386 // or what ever its called now days
[07:01] <eggzeck> wims, yes
[07:01] <flossgeek> any ideas on my dapper issue
[07:01] <flossgeek> ?
[07:01] <ompaul> !dapper
[07:01] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[07:01] <Mysta_> thats confusing?
[07:01] <wims> Dr_Willis,  thanks
[07:02] <flossgeek> ok
[07:02] <Mysta_> Dr_Willis: have you seen my problem before??
[07:02] <rambo3> Mysta_, do you have hyperthreading processor or 2 processors?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Mysta_,  nope..   :P check the wiki/forums perhaps.
[07:03] <Mysta_> rambo: its a Dual Xeon 2.8
[07:04] <Mysta_> I have a thread on it on the forums if anyone wants to take a look
[07:04] <rambo3> Mysta_, do you have live cd?
[07:04] <Mysta_> yep
[07:05] <rambo3> why dont you boot it an check log files , mount /dev/* and check
[07:05] <Mysta_> so load the live cd, and mount dev/ from the base install?
[07:05] <mheath[laptop] > This isn't specifically Ubuntu related, but its related to Linux compatability with some buttons on my laptop...I was wondering if someone could provide some insight...
[07:05] <mheath[laptop] > the buttons on this laptop (the quick launch buttons) have lights in them....the Wireless-activation button light turns on when the wireless is on, and the mute button turns on when the sound is muted
[07:06] <mheath[laptop] > Someone raised the possibility that the lights were actually tied to the hardware
[07:06] <s|k> how do I upgrade mozilla? It's telling me there's an upgrade, but when I try dist-upgrade it says mozilla is held back
[07:06] <mheath[laptop] > IE, the light on the wireless button is actually tied TO the wireless card, and the light on the mutebutton is actually tied to the sound card
[07:06] <rambo3> Mysta_, yes
[07:06] <Mysta_> rambo3 ;what am i looking for in the logs
[07:06] <s|k> how do I upgrade mozilla? It's telling me there's an upgrade, but when I try dist-upgrade it says mozilla is held back
[07:06] <mheath[laptop] > in which case the lights would just work, no matter what OS I'm using. Can anyone comment on if this is actually the case or not?
[07:07] <rambo3> if its crashing in gnome look kernel log , dmesg and xorg logs . tail /var/log/  <-
[07:09] <rambo3> wiat x error is maby in /home/user/xsession-error
[07:09] <Mysta_> rambo3: just wondering why can't i just look through those logs while logged in w/o a live cd
[07:09] <rambo3> beacouse i told you to safe boot and you sad it confusing
[07:10] <Mysta_> lemme double check what you said then
[07:10] <Mysta_> oh so if I login w/ the 386 kernel, can I check the 686-smp logs or something?
[07:12] <mheath[laptop] > Mysta_, yep!!
[07:13] <lalcaraz> i'm sorry again, but I can't find the AUTOMATIX package ... maybe i'm looking at the wrong place .. can U help this guy??
[07:13] <Klaidas> !automatix
[07:13] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:14] <Hoxzer> somebody here running teamSpeak and using sound card with no hw mixing?
[07:14] <lalcaraz> !automatix
[07:14] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:14] <lalcaraz> easyubuntu?
[07:15] <lalcaraz> Is that a good way? i mean i just downloaded it but i couldn't find the firefox 1.5 package anywhere
[07:15] <Firezip_> How can you open .rar files in linux?
[07:15] <HymnToLife> !rar
[07:15] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:15] <squiddle> Firezip_  rar x filename
[07:16] <xan> g
[07:16] <rambo3> !unrar
[07:16] <ubotu> rambo3: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:16] <Scognito> hi
[07:16] <Scognito> what is the boot screen program name?
[07:16] <lalcaraz> !automatix
[07:16] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:17] <lalcaraz> @find automatix
[07:17] <HymnToLife> lalcaraz> please don't use Automtix
[07:17] <HymnToLife> use easyubuntu
[07:17] <HymnToLife> !easyubuntu
[07:17] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[07:21] <ubuntu> hello
[07:21] <Mysta_> hi
[07:22] <ubuntu> what is this server about?
[07:22] <ennoia> hi!
[07:22] <ubuntu> hi
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Moo
[07:23] <ompaul> ubuntu, you are using a ubuntu live cd this is the "support chat room"
[07:23] <ennoia> i'm having problems getting ruby/rails/mongrel installed
[07:23] <ubuntu> yes
[07:23] <Firezip_> ok I got my rar's to work
[07:24] <ennoia> i installed ruby but ri and irb don't work, and i can't find rubygems
[07:24] <ompaul> ubuntu,  The people in this channel are volunteers, so it can take time to get an answer, but usually we manage it okay.
[07:25] <ubuntu> thanks I'll try
[07:25] <yggdrasil> hey guys i havea firewall script that i would like to load on boot
[07:25] <yggdrasil> should i put it in /etc/rc.2/S00fwall.sh ?
[07:25] <yggdrasil> or sowmerher lese
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> i dont think ya would want "S00 in any case.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> theres a /etc/rc.local i belive
[07:26] <XTF> Does anyone know why phpMyAdmin isn't in Ubuntu?
[07:26] <Crane> Are you running X ygg
[07:26] <Crane> Gnome?
[07:26] <Flannel> XTF: it is
[07:26] <pmd> hi
[07:26] <Flannel> XTF: it's in universe
[07:27] <rambo3> it is
[07:27] <XTF> pmd: Hmm, I guess I need to import universe manually?
[07:27] <ubuntu> My live cd works connecting me to my wireless but my install disk doesn't connect
[07:27] <rambo3> but not buy default
[07:27] <rambo3> to XTF
[07:27] <Flannel> XTF: you just need to add the universe list to your repository list.
[07:27] <ompaul> ennoia, the wiki only points to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RubyGems
[07:27] <Crane> yggdrasil, if your running gnome, i believe you could just add it to the sessions area under the preference menu
[07:28] <yggdrasil> hah gnome
[07:28] <ubuntu_> Help
[07:28] <yggdrasil> nah straight up console box
[07:28] <yggdrasil> no monitor
[07:28] <alexxx_ionutz> i have a problem with Xserver .. it tells me that i need to configure it again .. who can help me ???
[07:28] <ompaul> XTF it is in a repo called universe
[07:28] <ennoia> where do i file a bug to request Ruby to be not-broken in ubuntu ?
[07:28] <ompaul> !tell XTF about universe
[07:28] <ubuntu_> Geri wer ist da?
[07:28] <ompaul> !de
[07:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:29] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu -de
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> alexandros_se,  try --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[07:29] <Flannel> ennoia: launchpad, but I don't think it's broken.
[07:29] <ompaul> ubuntu_        >>/join #ubuntu-de<<
[07:29] <ubuntu_> was?
[07:29] <tuxtheslacker> hey, does linux have any automated podcasted downloaders like iTunes?
[07:29] <Crane> yggdrasil, I am noy sure in console I think your on the right trak though
[07:29] <Hexidigital_> ubuntu_::  /join #ubuntu-de
[07:29] <ubuntu_> bitte de
[07:29] <Donvinzk> tuxtheslacker: linux is a kernel ...
[07:29] <Crane> Have you done a search on the forums for start up scripts?
[07:30] <tuxtheslacker> Donvinzk, Not what I meant... don't get picky :-)
[07:30] <Donvinzk> tuxtheslacker: you can try castpodder
[07:30] <ennoia> ruby package should pull down irb and , ir, and rubygems at the very least, and probably gcc so you can build extensions..
[07:30] <ubuntu_> help deutsch
[07:30] <yggdrasil> ill check into i think thats it just dont know if it should be runelvel 2 or 3
[07:30] <yggdrasil> thanks
[07:30] <ompaul> !de
[07:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:30] <alexxx_ionutz> i have a problem with Xserver .. it tells me that i need to configure it again .. who can help me ???
[07:30] <ennoia> or at least have a ruby-dev package that is intended for ruby development, rather than just needing ruby , that does these things
[07:30] <ubuntu_> ich benutze ubuntu zum erste mal...
[07:30] <Donvinzk> tuxtheslacker: or juice receiver wich has not yet released his linux versionyet
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> alexxx_ionutz, ,  try --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[07:30] <ompaul> ubuntu_                      /join #ubuntu-de     <<<< bitte
[07:30] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[07:31] <ubuntu_> quitt
[07:31] <ubuntu_> wie
[07:31] <ompaul> ubuntu_ /quit      >>>/    <<<<<   /join #ubuntu-de
[07:31] <Donvinzk> tuxtheslacker: you can try the castpodder 5.0 (download from their website) + gtkpod (ni the repositories) if you have an ipod
[07:31] <ubuntu_> hier ist Geri
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> thanks!
[07:31] <XTF> ompaul: Thanks.
[07:31] <Flannel> ubuntu_: wir sprache englisch heir.  fuer deutsche sprache, /join #ubuntu-de bitte.
[07:31] <ubuntu_> my name is geri
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> I have an ipod... I have a mac for it though :-P
[07:31] <g0dchild> Hi, can anyone recommend an adequent tux-replacement for adobe audition?
[07:32] <ennoia> trying to build mongerl i get a huge spew of errors when it;s trying to build http11.c
[07:32] <ennoia> i had to install gcc, does anyone know what else i'm going to need?
[07:32] <ubuntu_> i have no ipop
[07:32] <Hexidigital_> ubuntu_:: spricten englisch?
[07:32] <Flannel> ennoia: build-essentail
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[07:32] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[07:32] <ubuntu_> no
[07:32] <ompaul> ennoia, ^^^^^^^^^^^
[07:32] <ennoia> ah
[07:32] <ennoia> thanks
[07:32] <ubuntu_> im speed german
[07:33] <Hexidigital_> nicht spricht deuches
[07:33] <ubuntu_> ubuntu is german
[07:33] <XTF> Does anyone know why Apache 2.0.58 and PHP 5.1.4 aren't in Ubuntu yet?
[07:33] <highvoltage> german for?
[07:33] <ubuntu_> ubuntu ist deutsch
[07:33] <afaik_> ubuntu_, hier wird englich gesprochen
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> XTF,  perhaps they are in dapper.
[07:33] <phreeza> wieso ist ubuntu deutsch?
[07:33] <Mysta_> !de
[07:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:33] <phreeza> ubuntu ist zulu
[07:33] <ubuntu_> ich kann nur deutsch
[07:33] <alexxx_ionutz> Dr_Willis : it tels me that Package `xserver-org` is not instaled and no info is available...
[07:34] <highvoltage> #ubuntu-de
[07:34] <Hexidigital_> afaik_:: thank you :) i was about to join the -de room to look for a translator
[07:34] <phreeza> dann geh zu #ubuntu-de
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !reconfigure
[07:34] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[07:34] <afaik_> ubuntu_, dann lies was dir die leute hier sagen
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[07:34] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:34] <XTF> Dr_Willis: I do have Dapper.
[07:34] <ubuntu_> my xserve ist online
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> XTF,  my guess would be it came out after the 'locked' down dapper.
[07:35] <ompaul> ubuntu_  please:::          /join #ubuntu-de     ::: bitte,
[07:35] <ubuntu_> help
[07:35] <ubuntu_> he
[07:35] <afaik_> ubuntu_, gib einfach folgendes ein: /join #ubuntu-de
[07:35] <ubuntu_> wer ist da?
[07:35] <tuxtheslacker> http://pastebin.com/737489
[07:36] <tuxtheslacker> any ideas? (that's a castpodder output)
[07:36] <culix> what`s the matter ompaul?
[07:36] <ompaul> culix, please help ubuntu_  find #ubuntu-de
[07:36] <Mysta_> rambo3: I'm going to have to reload the 686-smp kernel to recreate the error (im on a fresh install) would you recommend a fresh kernel build?
[07:37] <ompaul> ahh
[07:37] <phreeza> ah
[07:37] <juliux> ompaul, ?
[07:37] <Mysta_> bout time
[07:37] <afaik_> hehe
[07:37] <culix> ubuntu_, mach mal #join #ubuntu-de
[07:37] <ompaul> juliux, he just quit
[07:37] <phreeza> hat er schon glaub ich :)
[07:37] <juliux> ompaul, ok
[07:37] <ompaul> thanks for coming
[07:37] <culix> without # *g*
[07:37] <ubuntu> My live cd works connecting me to my wireless but my install disk doesn't connect. Is this common?
[07:38] <ompaul> culix, juliux thank you both ;-)
[07:38] <g0dchild> hello- anyone? is there a programme good enough to replace adobe audition in linux?
[07:38] <juliux> ompaul, no problem
[07:38] <g0dchild> All signs point to a prog called audacity
[07:38] <culix> ompaul, np
[07:38] <rambo3> Mysta_,  you can use 686 with no smp ,
[07:39] <Mysta_> rambo3: but I've got a Dual Xeon server, and its going to run vmware server
[07:39] <Mysta_> so i need all the power i can get
[07:39] <ompaul> ubuntu, have a look at System Administration Networking or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:39] <ubuntu> thankyou
[07:39] <Mysta_> if it doesn't work, i'll be using red hat :(
[07:39] <Hexidigital_> Mysta_:: dont do that :(
[07:39] <racestoapril1> does anyone know a konfabulator like program for ubuntu
[07:40] <Hexidigital_> Mysta_:: you need help w/ vmware?
[07:40] <ompaul> g0dchild, more helpful would be, I need a program that does function X, as most people don't know what adobe audition is
[07:40] <chavo> racestoapril1, gdesklets
[07:40] <Mysta_> hex: i dont want to, i will need help w/ vmware when i get smp working
[07:40] <racestoapril1> thanks
[07:40] <rambo3> Mysta_, then boot in dual ? you can use what ever 686 386 kernel you want
[07:40] <ompaul> !vmware
[07:40] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[07:40] <Hexidigital_> Mysta_:: is smp the current problem? or are you installing now?
[07:40] <Mysta_> hex: SMP is the current problem
[07:40] <ompaul> Mysta_, ^^  look up a couple of lines
[07:40] <rekrutacja> hi all i want to dsubmit a bug but this @#$%^&* bug buddy (its obviously a buddy f bugs, not users) wont send it unless i provide smething what it calls  "Path of sendmail"
[07:40] <Mysta_> thx ompaul, i saw it
[07:41] <Hexidigital_> !smp
[07:41] <ubotu> hmm... smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[07:41] <Hexidigital_> well, thanks ubotu
[07:41] <Hexidigital_> i guess i'll have to do it the old fashioned way
[07:41] <Mysta_> anyone mind looking at this thread to get a good idea of whats going on
[07:41] <Mysta_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1051646#post1051646
[07:42] <Mysta_> I've tried to be as detailed as I can be, but no one has gotten back to me in that thread
[07:42] <Corey> damn php make my head explode
[07:43] <Hexidigital_> Mysta_:: you had problems with sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp?
[07:43] <Hexidigital_> did you try installing using synaptic package manager, Mysta_ ?
[07:44] <Mysta_> HEX: with that problem i did use synaptic
[07:44] <Hexidigital_> what about aptitude?
[07:44] <Hexidigital_> sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp
[07:44] <Hexidigital_> Mysta_:: ^^
[07:45] <Mysta_> you mean sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[07:45] <Mysta_> ?
[07:45] <Hexidigital_> or aptitude
[07:45] <culix> i think smp is already installed, he has problems withe the x-server
[07:45] <Mysta_> isnt aptitude a commandline GUI interface?
[07:45] <Hexidigital_> culix:: perhaps he needs the 386-smp package?
[07:45] <culix> Mysta_, u can use it in both ways
[07:46] <Mysta_> but its a Dual Xeon 2.8 package
[07:46] <Mysta_> culix: ok
[07:46] <Mysta_> i mean dual xeon 2.8 server
[07:46] <roryy> aptitude has a really cool text-menu interface.
[07:46] <culix> Mysta_, is the smp kernel already installed?
[07:46] <Hexidigital_> Mysta_:: in terminal, type uname -r, and tell us what it says
[07:46] <conhe> !source.list
[07:46] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, conhe
[07:46] <Mysta_> Linux atl-vmware01 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Apr 28 13:13:44 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:46] <Mysta_> culix: no i dont
[07:46] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell conhe about easysource
[07:47] <Hexidigital_> culix wins
[07:47] <forceabuser> hi all
[07:47] <forceabuser> 	i need some help on configuering a default gateway on my eth0 connection
[07:47] <Ticondrius> Hello
[07:47] <culix> Mysta_, sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp
[07:47] <rambo3> Mysta_, do you have fglrx driver since you have restricted modules. and gnome usualy doesnt start becouse of network problems
[07:48] <Ticondrius> no way...TomB?  EVE Online TomB?
[07:48] <culix> Mysta_, sry, sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[07:48] <Mysta_> culix: I'll try that now
[07:48] <conhe> need good sources.list
[07:48] <Mysta_> rambo: i'm not sure what fglrx driver is. I did see that ATI has new linux drivers today
[07:48] <Ticondrius> Anyone know the performance of a Radeon 7000 VE in Ubuntu with glx gears?
[07:48] <Mysta_> Ticon: I've got the same card in my server!
[07:49] <Ticondrius> I used to get around 1100FPS..but somehow It's running with some broken DRI now and I get like 550FPS...under Gentoo
[07:49] <Hexidigital_> culix:: won't that matter that he has a 386 kernel?
[07:49] <Mysta_> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18.html#
[07:49] <culix> Mysta_, does ubuntu runs in a vmware machine?
[07:49] <Ticondrius> Yes Culix
[07:49] <Ticondrius> Any OS does
[07:50] <Mysta_> culix: nope, brand new server brand new install
[07:50] <culix> Hexidigital_, if he has xeon he can use 686
[07:50] <Hexidigital_> i see
[07:50] <alexxx_ionutz> how do i restart xserver from terminal ?
[07:50] <Ticondrius> "startx"
[07:50] <alexxx_ionutz> ynx
[07:50] <culix> Ticondrius, i know, my question was if he installed it in a vmware machine
[07:50] <Ticondrius> ah..kk
[07:51] <rambo3> ctrl alt del
[07:51] <Ticondrius> I'm trying to find out if DRI for the xorg radeon driver is broken or not...
[07:51] <e-fonz> I want to copy files rom my personal folder to a password protected folder. can anyone give me an example of a commandline?
[07:51] <Mysta_> culix: did you get a chance to look at my thread?
[07:51] <Hexidigital_> rambo3:: ctrl alt del for what?
[07:51] <culix> Mysta_, yes, but it was not clear if you already use smp or not
[07:52] <Mysta_> ahh ok
[07:52] <Ticondrius> ..in ubuntui
[07:52] <Aeudian> for some reason i ahve apache 1 and apache 2 installed, how do i remove apache 1 with perl and ssh on my server cause apache 2 wont start
[07:52] <Mysta_> well everytime i try and boot into the 686 kernel it locks up, so right now the only kernel installed is 386
[07:52] <Ticondrius> Aeudian: It's better to nuke them both and reinstall the one you want
[07:53] <Aeudian> Ticondrius: how do i got about removing them
[07:53] <Ticondrius> Use the package manager in gnome?
[07:53] <Aeudian> i do not have a gui on my server.
[07:53] <culix> Mysta_, why does it locks up? faults?
[07:53] <Ticondrius> ah..then you need to use apt get
[07:53] <Ticondrius> which I dunno how to use, as I'm a Gentoo user
[07:54] <culix> Aeudian, aptitude purge apache
[07:54] <Mysta_> culix: I'm not sure. as soon as I login and you see that gnome is loading. the top menu bar pops up, and then it just locks, maybe 20 seconds after loggin in
[07:54] <FAQ`-> when i try to do apt-get update it says
[07:54] <FAQ`-> apt-get update
[07:54] <FAQ`-> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:54] <FAQ`-> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:54] <andrejkw> Hey guiys
[07:54] <FAQ`-> what should i do
[07:54] <Hexidigital_> are there any _recommended_ webpage editors? (i currently use bluefish)
[07:55] <andrejkw> Are there inbstructions anywhere on making your own APT repository?
[07:55] <Aeudian> culix: thank you
[07:55] <culix> FAQ`-, use sudo
[07:55] <Monkee13> unlock or sudo
[07:55] <FAQ`-> tnx
[07:55] <Ticondrius> Hexidigital_: Vim works great.  :)
[07:55] <green_earz> Hexidigital_: quanta
[07:55] <izmaelis> I have mount share described in my ftsab, but it doesn't mount on boot. What can cause a problem? "uname -a" works just fine from within console
[07:55] <Hexidigital_> Ticondrius:: i can't understand the Vim setup :)
[07:55] <Hexidigital_> green_earz:: i've heard of that... tyvm
[07:55] <Ticondrius> What's to understand?
[07:55] <izmaelis> I have smb share described in my ftsab, but it doesn't mount on boot. What can cause a problem? "uname -a" works just fine from within console
[07:55] <culix> Mysta_, so not the boot process fails but gnome locks
[07:56] <Monkee13> how would I setuid root for my screen saver?
[07:56] <Ticondrius>  forward slash to search, insert to change editing mode, and :q to quit or :w to save and :wq to save and quit
[07:56] <Mysta_> culix: yes
[07:56] <francois> hi all
[07:56] <francois> mother fucker
[07:56] <Hexidigital_> Ticondrius:: not that i dont understand it so much... i'm not a big fan of it... i'm more of an emacs man myself
[07:56] <culix> izmaelis, use auto in fstab
[07:56] <Ticondrius> K..use that then.  :P
[07:56] <Mysta_> i can login via ssh and work, but i need to know that gnome will work as wellculix:
[07:56] <Ticondrius> Website IDEs are for Windows users.  :P
[07:56] <Mysta_> ^^ culix
[07:56] <cr3> why do I have the package linux-image-2.6.12 but only linux-kernel-headers-2.6.11? the version doesn't match for some reason!
[07:56] <andrejkw> Anyone?
[07:57] <andrejkw> Are there inbstructions anywhere on making your own APT repository?
[07:57] <Ian_S> Howdy, how do i install an .rpm on ubuntu?
[07:57] <andrejkw> Ian_S: alien
[07:57] <Hexidigital_> Ticondrius:: i havent used html in years (i'm trying to get back into it)  :)
[07:57] <Ian_S> :o
[07:57] <Monkee13> Ian_S: I heard alien works pretty well
[07:57] <Ticondrius> Hexi: www.w3schools.com.  :)
[07:57] <Ticondrius> have fun!
[07:57] <Ian_S> alien?
[07:57] <ompaul> !alien
[07:57] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:57] <Ian_S> oh
[07:57] <culix> Mysta_, you have to figure out if the problem is the x-server or the wm
[07:57] <Hexidigital_> thx Ticondrius
[07:57] <NoUse> cr3 the headers don't need to match up exactly
[07:57] <andrejkw> Are there inbstructions anywhere on making your own APT repository?
[07:58] <Monkee13> best wouldbe to just compile the app yourself
[07:58] <Ian_S> Thanks :)
[07:58] <cr3> NoUse: thye do if I want to install vmware
[07:58] <Hexidigital_> Ticondrius:: is the man
[07:58] <ompaul> Ian_S, what app is it?
[07:58] <NoUse> cr3 no they don't :-)
[07:58] <Ian_S> ompual, its not in the apt directory if thats what you're asking :)
[07:58] <Mysta_> culix: im sorry but i wouldnt know where to begin trouble shooting that. did you notice that i changed the setting in xorg.conf from ati to radeon and it work for a while?
[07:59] <ompaul> andrejkw, it is on the wiki do a text search for "mirror"
[07:59] <Mysta_> culix: so thats lead me to believe its a driver problem w/ ATI
[07:59] <culix> Mysta_, so it seems to be a problem of the driver, did you try fglrx or vesa?
[07:59] <ompaul> Ian_S, we may know where there is a safe one
[07:59] <tomm7> hi ppl. the font in the menu for chosing a file to play in e.g. xmms or mplayer is pretty tiny - does anyone know what to change?
[07:59] <Ticondrius> wait wait...Mysta..what's happening?
[07:59] <Ticondrius> He locks up as soon as Gnome boots?
[07:59] <Mysta_> tico: yes
[07:59] <NoUse> cr3 just point it to the headers you have installed
[07:59] <Ticondrius> Check version of Mesa3D
[08:00] <Ian_S> ompaul, its Limewire, but do trust me its for completely legal purposes
[08:00] <Mysta_> culix: im not sure what you mean
[08:00] <Mysta_> tico: how?
[08:00] <ompaul> !limewire
[08:00] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[08:00] <Ticondrius> should be 6.5 or better...6.1 to 6.4 were very buggy with Radeons
[08:00] <Mysta_> ticondrius
[08:00] <Ticondrius> I do not know how in Ubuntu
[08:00] <Mysta_> urg
[08:00] <tomm7> i have xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-base installed
[08:00] <Ian_S> Ok thank you :)
[08:00] <cr3> NoUse: vmware expects a file called version.h which doesn't exist in the linux-kernel-source package
[08:00] <ompaul> !ati
[08:00] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:00] <Ticondrius> In Gentoo..simply "emerge -p mesa" would do it.  :P
[08:00] <andrejkw> ompaul: I don't want to mirror :\ I want to build my own repository, with my own packages.
[08:01] <culix> Mysta_, do you need 3d acceleration?
[08:01] <Mysta_> well this server is going to be running vmware, so the guest machines may need it
[08:01] <Ian_S> !frostwire
[08:01] <ubotu> frostwire is probably a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[08:01] <FAQ`-> what is the best free windows emulator for games ?
[08:01] <ompaul> andrejkw, ahhh, maybe this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/Resources
[08:01] <Ticondrius> Mysta: 3d accel iis not possible in VMware
[08:01] <racestoapril1> does anyone have the link to mounting an ipod mini 2nd gen on ubuntu 5.04?
[08:02] <culix> Mysta_, try the ati driver https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:02] <Mysta_> tico: well then no i wont need it ;)
[08:02] <Mysta_> culix: do i try this after installing 686-smp
[08:02] <ompaul> Mysta_, when you have tico typed press tab and see what happens :-)
[08:02] <culix> have to cook, my stomach is crying
[08:02] <Ticondrius> ompaul:  Nice trick
[08:02] <culix> Mysta_, yes, try it after installing 686-smp
[08:02] <andrejkw> ompul: nope, that only describes how to build.deb packages, I already have those. Now I want to build my own repository to publish them easily.
[08:03] <Mysta_> ompaul: WOW!!!!
[08:03] <Mysta_> ok thanks
[08:03] <racestoapril1> does anyone have the link to mounting an ipod mini 2nd gen on ubuntu 5.04?
[08:03] <Mysta_> lol
[08:03] <izmaelis> culix, adding auto didn't help
[08:04] <racestoapril1> can anyone answer my question?
[08:04] <ompaul> andrejkw, okay sorry you made me think ;-)
[08:04] <lucas> !fonts
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[08:04] <Ticondrius> racestoapril1:  Maybe...
[08:04] <ompaul> !falcon
[08:04] <ubotu> ompaul: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:04] <ompaul> !info falcon
[08:04] <racestoapril1> does anyone have the link to mounting an ipod mini 2nd gen on ubuntu 5.04?
[08:04] <Mysta_> ok, so im off to install 686-smp and then get @ the ati binary drivers, I'll report back shortly, thanks for all the tips guys!
[08:04] <diskofish> howdy
[08:04] <Mysta_> Ticondrius: whats your language of choice by the way? for the web?
[08:05] <Ticondrius> racestoapril1: Google for ipod mini ubutnu
[08:05] <Ticondrius> For...what Mysta?
[08:05] <Ticondrius> web dev or lingual?
[08:05] <andrejkw> ompaul: found it :P thx anyway
[08:05] <ompaul> andrejkw,  Falcon repository builder 0.11.4 check out wherever Seveas stores it
[08:05] <izmaelis> my fstab line looks like this: //192.168.1.4/stuff /home/izmaelis/stuff smbfs auto,fmask=777,dmask=777,username="izmaelis",password="" 0 0
[08:05] <Mysta_> web dev
[08:05] <Ticondrius> ah
[08:05] <Bersi42> !ger
[08:05] <ubotu> Bersi42: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:05] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[08:05] <diskofish> I must say, nice work work folks.  I tried installing debain, wouldn't detect any of my devices
[08:05] <Ticondrius> I use PHP 5.1 and Ruby...Perl is nice too
[08:05] <diskofish> so I tried ubuntu, and it just worked.
[08:05] <ompaul> Seveas, where is falcon?
[08:05] <Mysta_> nice: your where i wanna be in the coming years
[08:05] <Ticondrius> hehe
[08:06] <Ticondrius> It doesn't take a lot of work..just find some language references and dive in
[08:06] <Seveas> ompaul, .debs on mirror.ubuntulinux.nl, bzr branch on kaarsemaker.net/files/Software/falcon
[08:06] <ompaul> thanks
[08:06] <diskofish> I do have a question: I went on the website trying to download the intel wireless driver
[08:06] <racestoapril1> what is the command in root to uninstall software
[08:06] <Mysta_> Ticondrius: yea i do too much reading and not enough coding
[08:06] <racestoapril1> sudo...?
[08:06] <Mysta_> well brb, im gonna go try the tips from you and colix, thx
[08:06] <diskofish> and it says it's installed by default on Dapper Drake , but no driver was installed
[08:06] <Seveas> heh
[08:06] <Seveas> ompaul, Falcon 1.0 will go gold in a few days
[08:07] <ompaul> Seveas, I don't need it before dapper is in :-)
[08:07] <Seveas> so for edgy I'm hoping to include it in ubuntu proper
[08:07] <echobinary> anyone know abt Mono on Ubuntu?
[08:07] <Seveas> echobinary, works like a charm on Ubuntu
[08:07] <echobinary> cool
[08:07] <echobinary> :-D  is it in the ports?
[08:07] <ompaul> Seveas, good stuff :-)
[08:07] <TaTonka> hey i got a question
[08:07] <echobinary> err..
[08:07] <echobinary> the repository - whatever its called in ubuntu  lol
[08:07] <Ticondrius> We may have answers
[08:07] <Seveas> echobinary, this is not bsd :
[08:08] <Seveas> and of course it is in the repository ;)
[08:08] <racestoapril1> what is the command in root to uninstall software? i would like to uninstall xine
[08:08] <echobinary> haa haa   alrighty
[08:08] <TaTonka> well, im trying to figure out the minium specs for ubuntu 5.10
[08:08] <echobinary> thanks!
[08:08] <Seveas> (including cool mono apps like beagle and banshee)
[08:08] <echobinary> it makes for a wonderful server
[08:08] <ompaul> echobinary, sudo apt-get install mono
[08:08] <Ticondrius> TaTonka: Linux general min specs is a 386 computer.  :P
[08:08] <echobinary> should i wait for Dapper?
[08:08] <ompaul> TaTonka, what have you got
[08:08] <TaTonka> well, would a computer that can run windows 98, run ubuntu?
[08:08] <Seveas> echobinary, yes, it's going to be released in 7 days
[08:08] <Ticondrius> Yes
[08:08] <echobinary> is it worth doing up a system when the new one is coming out so soon?
[08:08] <echobinary> yeah
[08:09] <echobinary> i think ill wait - but it looks liek good stuff - ive been trying th elive CD
[08:09] <Seveas> you can easily upgrade
[08:09] <Seveas> you could install dapper RC1
[08:09] <TaTonka> would it run at a decent speed?
[08:09] <Seveas> will be released in hours
[08:09] <Ticondrius> Probably TatOnka..can't be sure without more detail of your hardware
[08:09] <Mysta_> culix: it doesnt seem that the ati drivers work w/ the Radeon 7000 ve. The wiki page says make sure you have a radeon 8500 or higher
[08:09] <Seveas> and just update regularly the coming days
[08:10] <Ticondrius> Mysta: The Aati drivers only wortk with radeon 8550s and up
[08:10] <ompaul> TaTonka, it would be faster if you installed xubuntu-desktop if your feeling stuck, get as much ram as you can for it (if possible)
[08:10] <TaTonka> yeah, ill go look at the details, brb
[08:10] <Ticondrius> 8500
[08:10] <tomm7> hi ppl. the font in the menu for chosing a file to play in e.g. xmms or mplayer is pretty tiny - does anyone know what to change?
[08:10] <tomm7> i have xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-base installed
[08:13] <Mysta_> Ticondrius: well that strikes that plan out.
[08:14] <Mahmoud85> Hello, anyone with Hard drive errors experience?
[08:14] <echobinary> badblocks
[08:14] <debianfan> @echobinary: i disabled the dma support and the problem was solved.
[08:15] <Ticondrius> Mysta, the radeon 7000 is a PAIN IN THE ASS to use with any distro of Linux
[08:15] <Ticondrius> I'm only using one as a temp card because my geforce blew out
[08:15] <echobinary> ?
[08:15] <echobinary> hard drive errors, i use badblocks to see if there are bad sectors
[08:16] <TaTonka> ok, the computer im trying to put ubuntu on is a pavilion 6343
[08:16] <echobinary> was answering Mahmoud85
[08:16] <debianfan> can i install ubuntu dapper with braille display support?
[08:16] <echobinary> :-o    braille?
[08:16] <echobinary> neat they make braille displays?
[08:16] <Hexidigital_> debianfan:: you can feel the textures on your screen?
[08:16] <echobinary> i want one!
[08:16] <echobinary> haa haa
[08:16] <ompaul> Mahmoud85, has the machine halted on boot?
[08:16] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:16] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:17] <echobinary> would make those "pay sites" so much better
[08:17] <echobinary> whee!
[08:17] <ompaul> echobinary, ask jordan hubbard - he will tell you I can be evil }:->
[08:17] <echobinary> haa haa
[08:18] <phreeza> debianfan: is the display for console mode or are you looking for something more advanced?
[08:18] <TaTonka> 66 MHz computer
[08:18] <debianfan> @echofinger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_display
[08:19] <echobinary> is there any difference between ubuntu and kubuntu (aside from the obvious gnome/kde)
[08:19] <Ticondrius> TaTonka..get a new PC...OMG..a K62-300Mhz
[08:19] <TaTonka> so ununtu wont run on it?
[08:19] <Ticondrius> A good AthlonXP with an nForce 2 Ultra mainboard won't run you more than $500 without a monitor
[08:19] <Ticondrius> It wi;ll..but it won't run well
[08:19] <echobinary> interesting
[08:19] <void^> TaTonka: how much memory does it have?
[08:19] <Ticondrius> 64MB
[08:20] <hastesaver> echobinary, no. They're just different names for the same thing, depending on what the default desktop is :)
[08:20] <Ticondrius> I'm on HP's website
[08:20] <TaTonka> well i got my computer here that i built, but me and dual booting dont go well lol
[08:20] <Ticondrius> no..excuse me..32MB
[08:20] <dan> what is the best free windows emulator for games?
[08:20] <echobinary> i would imagine the braille display would be better suited to command line?
[08:20] <TaTonka> i put a stick of 128 in it
[08:20] <Ticondrius> dan: Wine and Cedega
[08:20] <echobinary> dan: cedega?
[08:20] <Davey> dan, wine. Good luck.
[08:20] <Davey> Cedega is not free
[08:20] <echobinary> oops   ;)
[08:20] <Ticondrius> Cedega = free if you compile it from the CVS
[08:20] <phreeza> debianfan: hav you tried brltty?
[08:20] <Davey> oh, really? :)
[08:21] <echobinary> i got GuildWars to work
[08:21] <echobinary> ..  kinda
[08:21] <Clint-> lol.. come in on cedega.. :P, I actually got it from Instructors, because they wanted me to work on it for Fedora Core 5.0.. lol.. I have Cedega 5.0, in different binarys, I made 1 for ubuntu and debian
[08:21] <echobinary> freaky graphics jumps sometimes
[08:21] <Ticondrius> TaTonka..don't even try to use a modern OS on that HP machine..
[08:21] <Ticondrius> Maybe use it as an OpenBSD firewall box...  :P
[08:21] <dan> and i need to instal something else ? beforre wine ?
[08:21] <Ticondrius> but certainly not a desktop
[08:21] <echobinary> i hear good things abotu crossover office, but thats also not free
[08:21] <Clint-> hi all, :-)
[08:21] <debianfan> i work with my braille display under windows 2000
[08:21] <Clint-> dan, Cedega, built on formerly , Winex
[08:22] <Mahmoud85> echobinary : I get ata1: status=0x25 { DeviceFault CorrectedError Error } .. Buffer I/O Error and abnormal status .. on a SATA2 drive that had windows but crashed/hanged
[08:22] <Clint-> hey guys, My VMware Workstation 5.0 , is going well, it sure took me long enough to get it up and running on ubuntu and linux period :P
[08:22] <Zippo_dd> is this the channel to ask for ubuntu help?
[08:22] <TaTonka> well im extremely short on cash, so u cant but the parts for a new 1
[08:22] <echobinary> debianfan: yeah but..  mousing and hitting the start buttin, etc? pardon the pun, but im having trouble visualising how that works
[08:22] <TaTonka> i*
[08:22] <Clint-> and do you all know, just for your interest, VMware Player is free
[08:22] <Mysta_> Ticondrius: check this out https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/16873
[08:22] <echobinary> button*
[08:22] <DarkED> test
[08:22] <Clint-> ubuntu for next release, is probably going to add it into the Repositories
[08:22] <FaQ`1> Clint-, from where i take WineX ?
[08:22] <Seveas> Clint-, no
[08:23] <Clint-> hi Seveas
[08:23] <Mysta_> culix: you should look as well
[08:23] <Seveas> Clint-, vmware player is gratis, but afaik not redistributable by distros
[08:23] <Clint-> Seveas, , I got me VMware Workstation 5.0 up and running, I'm thinking of upgrading though, to 5.5 with my product key hee, :-)
[08:23] <Mysta_> i thought 5.5 was a free upgrade?
[08:23] <Clint-> yeah, I should be okay
[08:23] <FaQ`1> Clint-, from where i take WineX ?
[08:24] <Clint-> FaQ`1, , you need help with Cedega?
[08:24] <Zippo_dd> i installed ubuntu, 5.10. it only installed lo(loopback) no eth0. if i do a lspci i see 3c556b, how do i get my ethernet working?
[08:24] <FaQ`1> i don`t have it .. if is not free :(
[08:24] <Clint-> I took my version, from Fedora Core, and I generated it into a deb binary, and all is well :-)
[08:24] <Clint-> oh and Seveas , I got all my services, init scripts, etc.. run levels edited, Breezy is such Breezin now :D
[08:25] <debianfan> how can i umount my usb device? i get the following error: device is busy
[08:25] <FaQ`1> Clint-,  ...cand u help me ?
[08:25] <Clint-> questin though, anyone maybe know a problem, how come, Fluxbox doesn't mount sometimes?
[08:25] <FaQ`1> pls :(
[08:25] <Clint-> well, if the big people won't bark at me for commercial software
[08:25] <FaQ`1> >:)
[08:25] <FaQ`1> no no .. :D
[08:25] <Clint-> I'm a developer , Systems Engineer, and go to colllege hee, its all good :-)
[08:26] <Clint-> they might consider Cedega to be offtopic :P
[08:26] <Ticondrius> Mysta_: I use xorg 7 and Mesa3D 6.5, and my radeon 7000 works with the "radeon" driver with 3d accel, it's just not as fast as it should be
[08:26] <FaQ`1> pls.. help me .. :(
[08:26] <Clint-> faq, I can redistribute, anything I see fit, under certain copyright laws, and respect the code,
[08:26] <FaQ`1> i tried with wine.. but nuthin .. work
[08:26] <echobinary> faq'1: #cedega  :)  they helped me a lot there
[08:26] <Clint-> because of my production :-)
[08:27] <echobinary> err  Clint rather
[08:27] <Clint-> oh... you havn't come across a vision guy like me.. hee
[08:27] <LinuxJones> FaQ`1, Join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask in there
[08:27] <Clint-> you have OpenGl rendering?
[08:27] <tuxtheslacker> hey, how do I install a .jar file?
[08:27] <Clint-> and Direct3d rendering right? :D
[08:27] <simon__> that's a n00b question but what is the "standard password" of the root/superuser?
[08:27] <Clint-> well, Cedega will detect all that
[08:27] <hastesaver> !tell simon__ about root
[08:27] <echobinary> i have a a dapper supported nvidia card (7300GS)
[08:27] <echobinary> yeah opengl works for me
[08:28] <Clint-> do you guys want to talk private, on msn messenger,
[08:28] <Mysta_> Ticondrius: are there any details on where to maybe have that same setup
[08:28] <sipherdee> faq`1: i pay for cedega so i usually get the packages but you can get it via cvs, i.e.: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[08:28] <simon__> hastesaer what does that mean?
[08:28] <Ticondrius> Mysta_: Switch to Gentoo and use the unstable tree.  :P
[08:28] <Clint-> well yeah, my workstation, hee, runs ubuntu like a blast, hee and VMware Workstation 5.0 about to go on soon, because I finally figured everything out
[08:28] <Clint-> Ticondrius, , offtopic :D
[08:28] <Clint-> gentoo is a conspiracy :D
[08:28] <Ticondrius> Clint-: was answering a question
[08:28] <Clint-> I jus tgiving you stuff
[08:28] <Clint-> :-)
[08:28] <Clint-> I"m not bold like some here ;)
[08:29] <izmaelis> my fstab line looks like this: //192.168.1.4/stuff /home/izmaelis/stuff smbfs auto,fmask=777,dmask=777,username="izmaelis",password="" 0 0; but mounting samba share on boot doesn't work... although "sudo uname -a" from console mounts up that smb share
[08:29] <izmaelis> what's the prob?
[08:29] <Clint-> I tried gentoo, and was going to try slackware, those systems. completely different from debian based..
[08:29] <papillon> @cnn valencia, espaa
[08:29] <GnarusLeo> !repos
[08:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:29] <GnarusLeo> !easysource
[08:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:29] <Ticondrius> I don't care much for slackware
[08:30] <Clint-> ubuntu has some of the best hardware detection for snapshots of its developers have made for us, rock on ubuntu, I was so downing it, because I wasn't into configuring services and doing sysv-rc-conf :P
[08:30] <wims> is it possible to do a dist-upgrade to change my OS from 64 bit to 32 bit  ?
[08:30] <roryy> izmaelis: i presume you mean 'sudo mount -a' ?
[08:30] <wims> or do i have to download the iso and format my partitions ?
[08:30] <Clint-> and when I couldn't get vmware working I was upset, however, I'm past that now, I tought myself how to fix linux-headers, and redo system :P
[08:30] <izmaelis> roryy, yes sorry for typo
[08:30] <Ticondrius> eh?  I have Vmware working fine..had no problems at all
[08:31] <Clint-> wims
[08:31] <roryy> izmaelis: hrm. i don't know what comes first, mounting or bringing up the network..
[08:31] <Clint-> its probably going to look at a 64 bit kernel image. o.o
[08:31] <LinuxJones> wims, amd64 is not worth the hastle
[08:31] <luquetto> exit
[08:31] <izmaelis> roryy, but everything was working just fine before recent updates
[08:31] <Clint-> I still have to read, Understanding the linux Kernel, b Orielly and stuf :)
[08:31] <Clint-> and many other books..
[08:31] <roryy> Clint-: please take random chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <wims> i have 64 bit now, i realizied it wasn't worth the hassle, all kinds of packages wont work
[08:32] <Ticondrius> It's going to take a forced OS migration to a 64 bit OS to get 64 bit process to the norm
[08:32] <wims> so i guess i have to get the 32 bit iso
[08:32] <Ticondrius> like when we all got duped into migrating to Windows 95
[08:32] <Clint-> hey LinuxJones  :-)
[08:32] <FaQ`1> how do i download DirectDraw driver?
[08:32] <simon__> hastesaver yes i've read it but the problem is that the password i've given my user isn't the same as my the computer tells me but i don't have changed anything
[08:32] <FaQ`1> and all the graphic accelerator
[08:32] <FaQ`1> ?
[08:32] <FaQ`1> for games:D
[08:32] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:32] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> wims: You can get stuff working just read about schroot
[08:32] <LinuxJones> Clint-, hiya :)
[08:33] <Ticondrius> FaQ`1: There is no directX for Linux..you must use Wine
[08:33] <roryy> izmaelis: i'm not sure in that case, sorry.  You can look in your logs (/var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog for errors
[08:33] <hastesaver> simon__, you're using sudo or su? If you can login as normal user, then it means the password is right
[08:33] <ompaul> !sudo
[08:33] <ubotu> sudo is probably a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:33] <LinuxJones> wims, the good news is it only takes about 30 mins to get back online, but you already know that :)
[08:33] <jamey> I have installed Binc IMAP but it doesn't authenticate with my password. Any ideas?
[08:33] <wims> LinuxJones,  yeah, but i have lots of stuff i need to backup
[08:34] <FaQ`1> yes.. but when i try to open games with wine it says me that I need driver for DirectDraw
[08:34] <{alejandro}> hey all my apt is freaking out most heinously
[08:34] <{alejandro}> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-terminal_0.2.5+r21674-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/Terminal', which is also in package terminal.app
[08:34] <{alejandro}> this is an issue
[08:34] <simon__> hastesaver su or sudo?? i am a n00b i have changed to linux from windows today
[08:34] <LinuxJones> wims, you don't have a seperate partition for /home ?
[08:35] <wims> LinuxJones,  nope, only one for boot and one for the rest
[08:35] <{alejandro}> wait should I take this to ubuntu+1
[08:35] <wims> is it possible to resize my / partition, then create a new one and mount /home at it ?
[08:35] <hastesaver> simon__, ok. Are you using Ubuntu now? So it means you logged in with a password?
[08:35] <FaQ`1> yes.. but when i try to open games with wine it says me that I need driver for DirectDraw.
[08:35] <roryy> FaQ`1: you probably need cedega
[08:35] <roryy> !tell FaQ`1 about cedega
[08:35] <simon__> hastesaver yes i'm using ubuntu now
[08:36] <hastesaver> simon__, ok, now what's the problem? :)
[08:36] <LinuxJones> wims, dude create a seperate /home with the majority of your hard drive I have 100 gigs /boot = 100mb / = 10 gigs /swap = 1gig /home = the rest
[08:37] <roryy> FaQ`1: i boot into windows to play windows games; that is an easy option
[08:37] <conhe> !samba
[08:37] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[08:37] <meheren> is there a command for remvoing kde and all of it's components?
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> anyone can help me on mac adress changing
[08:38] <GnarusLeo> !firefox1.4
[08:38] <ubotu> GnarusLeo: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:38] <GnarusLeo> !firefox
[08:38] <Ticondrius> lotuspsychje: to change a mac address, you have to replace the network card
[08:38] <echobinary> lotus: am curious why would need to change it
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> !mirror
[08:38] <Ticondrius> lotuspsychje:  the address is hardwired in each card
[08:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:38] <GnarusLeo> !firefox1.5
[08:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> no ticondrius
[08:38] <krang> howdy how, i was just wondering how i permanently assign a static IP to a machine and turn off all that DHCP stuff that seems to be automatic
[08:38] <ompaul> meheren, very hard to do, if you don't need to don't do it. sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[08:38] <echobinary> you can spoof a mac address, but i cant think of any practical purpose
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> there is a shell command
[08:38] <simon__> hastesaver  my password  is the same as the root but if i want to install  a programm the pc ask the password of the root i give then my password because i've not given a root pw then he tells me the pw is wrong
[08:38] <Ticondrius> lotuspsychje: I think you mean an IP address...
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> ifconfig hw ethX xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> this seems to be the cmd
[08:39] <GnarusLeo> !ati
[08:39] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> to change mac adress
[08:39] <Ticondrius> loffomao
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> but it gives me an error
[08:39] <calamari_> hi
[08:39] <Ticondrius> because you can't change a hardwired address...only spoof it in your firewall
[08:39] <Ticondrius> you can change an IP address though
[08:39] <racestoapril1> hi, i'm having trouble getting gtkpod to read the iTunesdb on my ipod mini. i've followed the guide on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071&highlight=ipod+mini , however when i run gtkpod, it gives me the error'/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> Ticondrius i can change it on xp with smac
[08:40] <echobinary> lotus: a mac address is hard coded into your network hardware
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> so it must be done on linux too right
[08:40] <Ticondrius> That would be a mac spoofer..and Linux != Windows
[08:40] <calamari_> anyone know of a program that can do a hard drive surface scan (to check for physical errors), like windows scandisk?
[08:40] <hastesaver> simon__, firstly, to install programs, you won't need the root password like that. You should install from the repositories if the program is available. What are you trying to install?
[08:40] <echobinary> think of it as the unchangable fingerprint of your network card itself
[08:40] <meheren> for some reason it syas that package kde is not installed!?
[08:40] <krang> echobinary: you could change a chip :-)
[08:40] <abhay> I cannot setup my wireless connection can somebody help me.. my laptop is toshiba... when I set up I can see the network but it dosn't connect
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> so smac can change it right
[08:40] <echobinary> thats much more patience than i have
[08:40] <echobinary> ha aha
[08:40] <krang> lol
[08:40] <Ticondrius> lotuspsychje:  only while you're in windows
[08:41] <simon__> hastesaver i come again in a few minutes sorry
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> so no can do on linux?
[08:41] <echobinary> ive never tried
[08:41] <Ticondrius> not without spoofing it in the firewall ruleset
[08:41] <racestoapril1> '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:41] <echobinary> again, i cant think of any reason to try it
[08:41] <Ticondrius> There's really no reason to bother
[08:41] <krang> So, er, anyone know how I permanently assign a static IP then?
[08:41] <krang> I've only really used ifconfig before
[08:41] <racestoapril1> i'm having trouble getting gtkpod to read the iTunesdb on my ipod mini. i've followed the guide on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071&highlight=ipod+mini , however when i run gtkpod, it gives me the error'/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> Ticondrius:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
[08:42] <nawre> Hi there
[08:42] <Ticondrius> racestoapril1: Sounds like something needs it's database generated
[08:42] <nawre> comin
[08:42] <racestoapril1> how would i go about doing that?
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> Under Linux, the MAC address of a Network Interface Card (NIC) can be changed by doing the following: (You must be root in order for this to work)
[08:42] <hastesaver> racestoapril1, go to Edit preferences, and check whether the mount point is set to /mnt/iPod or /media/iPod -- sometimes that's the only problem :)
[08:42] <nawre> in order to know the difference between ubuntu's server distro and standard one
[08:42] <racestoapril1> ok thanks
[08:43] <echobinary> i wonder if one day they will need MACv6
[08:43] <Ticondrius> lotuspsychje:  nice...still, no real reason to bother
[08:43] <nawre> is it about packaging
[08:43] <Hexidigital_> why would you want to spoof your mac, and risk damaging your entire network configuration?
[08:43] <abhay> I cannot setup my wireless connection can somebody help me.. my laptop is toshiba... when I set up I can see the network but it dosn't connect dapper 7
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> Hexidigital_
[08:44] <echobinary> the only reason i can think of to spoof a mac is shady at best
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> what would you do when u get ddost
[08:44] <roryy> cos 0xDEADBEEF is a cool mac
[08:44] <Hexidigital_> echobinary:: i agree
[08:44] <echobinary> perhaps to mimic someone elses machine - say a laptop physically on someone else's network?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> another ip= another person
[08:44] <abhay> I'm new to ubuntu and linux
[08:44] <Hexidigital_> lotuspsychje:: close ports on my system? or not open them, to begin with?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> when is a person safe?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> never
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> even on linux
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> you could harden your system
[08:45] <echobinary> thats what anonymous proxies are for :-D
[08:45] <Ticondrius> lotuspsychje:  a person is safe when you disconnect from the net.  :P
[08:45] <Crane> WHEN THE NETWORK CABLE IS UNPLUGED
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> agree
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> so my way is to change mac adresses often
[08:45] <echobinary> for a safe computer i recommend comcast cable internet!
[08:46] <echobinary> err.. wait, was that outloud?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> loool
[08:46] <humbolt> what is xen's status in dapper?
[08:46] <Tuzlo> unfortunately, you just embarassed yourself
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> well off topic, ubuntu is the fastest distro i ever seen
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> it rox on 64 bit
[08:47] <Hexidigital_> that's not off topic... ubuntu IS the topic in here :)
[08:47] <calamari_> anyone know of a program that can do a hard drive surface scan (to check for physical errors), like windows scandisk?
[08:47] <echobinary> this isnt the commodore 64 room?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> means off mac adress spoofing topic
[08:47] <Hexidigital_> calamari_:: fsck
[08:47] <roryy> calamari_: badblocks might help
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:47] <krang_> Yeah, the Dapper Flight7 live cd is the quickest one to boot I've ever seen
[08:47] <racestoapril1>  hi, i'm having trouble getting gtkpod to read the iTunesdb on my ipod mini. i've followed the guide on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071&highlight=ipod+mini , however when i run gtkpod, it gives me the error'/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:47] <racestoapril1> i've changed the setting
[08:47] <racestoapril1> in edit preferences
[08:48] <Rubin> calamari_, your best bet is the disk manufacturers own test software, such as western digital's utility disk
[08:48] <Rubin> calamari_, they can do some tests via magic undocumented features noone else can
[08:48] <hastesaver> racestoapril1, has it worked before? Does the iPod already have stuff in it?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> well i guess i'll have to find my way myself to change it
[08:48] <racestoapril1> yes
[08:48] <calamari_> Rubin: I was hopin to do a test while still using my computer
[08:48] <racestoapril1> i've used it in windows
[08:48] <echobinary> i went from slackware 10.2 (-current) to Ubuntu Flight7 an i find its quite easy and polished to get up and running
[08:48] <mad_phoenix> does anybody know what JAVA_HOME is when you install sun-java5-jdk?
[08:48] <Rubin> calamari_, yeah, fsck in read-only mode can do that i think?
[08:49] <mad_phoenix> im having trouble starting tomcat because i supplied it the JAVA_HOME of the jre, instead of the jdk
[08:49] <racestoapril1> hastesaver:^^
[08:49] <calamari_> ahh, I thought fsck only checked the filesyste.. didn't know it checked for bad sectors too
[08:49] <deadcake> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14636 please help me
[08:49] <calamari_> thanks
[08:49] <echobinary> it makes calls to badblocks
[08:49] <racestoapril1> hastesaver: yes i have, in windows