[03:08] <al-maisan> hello BjornT, the MP in question is here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/ibuilder-api-cleanup-505647/+merge/17122
[04:29] <al-maisan> hello jml and stub, could you please review the schema patch proposed here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/bq-platform-columns-505725/+merge/17125 ?
[06:39] <rockstar> Anyone around for a review?
[11:29] <gmb> henninge: Can i get a review for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gmb/launchpad/bug-heat-infrastructure-bug-503745/+merge/17137 please?
[11:29] <gmb> Fixes bug 503745
[11:29] <mup> Bug #503745: Add infrastructure for calculating bug heat <story-bug-heat> <Launchpad Bugs:In Progress by gmb> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/503745>
[11:33] <henninge> gmb: Sure. ;)
[11:33] <gmb> Thanks.
[11:33] <henninge> gmb: That's a very brief cover letter for a 509 lines diff. Expect questions.
[11:34] <gmb> henninge: Sure; I look forward to them.
[11:34] <henninge> :)
[11:37] <henninge> gmb: First thing I notice: "heat" and "hotness" seem to be the same thing. From the ml discussion I saw, I think "heat" is the agreed term, isn't it?
[11:38] <gmb> henninge: Yes.
[11:39] <henninge> gmb: I think it'd prevent confusion if you iliminated the term "hotness" from the code, don't you think so, too?
[11:39] <henninge> or are there other constraints?
[11:39] <gmb> henninge: Hmm. Probably; I was sticking with our usual policy of reflecting DB fieldnames in the interface.
[11:40] <gmb> henninge: No, this is brand new, so it makes no difference.
[11:40] <henninge> so the db fieldname was named wrongly or prematurely?
[11:40] <gmb> henninge: Prematurely.
[11:40] <gmb> henninge: I agree, consistence in the code is better.
[11:40] <gmb> I'll change hotness -> heat in the code.
[11:41] <henninge> gmb: Great!
[11:41] <gmb> (We can always patch the DB later to update the field name)
[11:41] <henninge> thanks
[11:41] <henninge> yup
[12:11] <henninge> gmb: This line: bugs = list(getUtility(IBugSet).dangerousGetAllBugs()[start:end])
[12:11] <gmb> henninge: Yes?
[12:12] <gmb> henninge: Hmm. That list() seems unnecessary. Don't remember why I did that...
[12:12] <henninge> gmb: I am not sure how storm does this. Are you sure you are not querying all bugs each time or does the slicing work on the storm iterator.
[12:12] <gmb> Let me check to see if I can remove it.
[12:12] <henninge> ?
[12:12] <gmb> henninge: The slicing works on the iterator.
[12:12] <henninge> gmb: ah, cool
[12:12] <gmb> But the list() might be totally bogus.
[12:13] <henninge> gmb: You have an "if bugs:" after that for which you might need it.
[12:13] <henninge> gmb: But I don't like "if bugs:" anyway, or rather, our standards don't, afaik.
[12:13] <henninge> ;)
[12:13] <gmb> henninge: Hmm, yes, I suspect that's it. I'll see what happens when I remove the list().
[12:14] <gmb> henninge: Right. That should be if bugs.any().
[12:14] <gmb> (is not none) ;)
[12:14] <gmb> henninge: I cribbed some of this from the bugtask targetnamecache updater work, so I think this is a copy-paste error on my part.
[12:14] <henninge> gmb: either that or calculate the length into a local variable, you need it for the logger output anyway.
[12:14] <henninge> I know the feeling.
[12:14] <gmb> henninge: Good point.
[12:15] <gmb> henninge: Ah; I need the list() so I can do bugs[0].
[12:15] <henninge> is there no "bugs.first()" in storm?
[12:15] <gmb> henninge: I'm about to find out :)
[12:18] <gmb> henninge: There is, and it works :)
[12:18] <henninge> cool
[12:22]  * henninge just learned about test_doc.py ...
[12:33] <stub> gmb: Just added a comment to that MP to use DBLoopTuner instead of LoopTuner - its in the same file and you should use DBLoopTuner whenever doing bulk database updates.
[12:33] <gmb> stub: Thanks, will do.
[12:33] <stub> gmb: Also consider putting this in garbo-daily rather than a seperate script.
[12:34] <gmb> stub: Ah, good thinking. I'll look into that.
[12:34] <stub> You get some testing infrastructure for free and our daily jobs get run serially for best throughput and least pain. Should drop in easily enough since it is a tunable loop.
[12:35] <gmb> Right.
[12:36] <gmb> stub: Right, I think I'll do that, thanks. Seems like an easy win.
[12:41] <mrevell> Hey henninge, any chance of a review on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~matthew.revell/launchpad/translations-help-10.1/+merge/17032 when you have a moment?
[12:42] <henninge> mrevell: np, but it will have to be after lunch.
[12:42] <mrevell> thanks henninge
[12:42] <henninge> mrevell: put it in the queue
[12:42] <henninge> please
[12:42] <henninge> ;)
[12:42] <mrevell> henninge, It's there already :)
[12:45] <intellectronica> henninge, mrevell: i can review this, since you're already reviewing stuff
[12:46] <henninge> mrevell: it's rosetta-specific help text, right?
[12:46] <mrevell> thanks intellectronica, although henninge if you have time to look at it too I'd like your view from a Translations-guy PoV.
[12:46] <intellectronica> right
[13:05] <henninge> gmb, review sent. I am off to lunch but we'll have a (short) second round later ... ;)
[13:06] <gmb> henninge: Cool, thanks. I'll grab some lunch too.
[13:12] <mrevell> thanks intellectronica
[13:37] <salgado> intellectronica, care to review a one-liner for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/355009/
[13:37] <intellectronica> salgado: sure
[13:38] <salgado> we currently have these two branches for pygettextpo, but we should be using only the ~launchpad-pqm one.  I'll delete the other one once this fix lands
[13:38] <intellectronica> salgado: cool. r=me
[13:38] <salgado> thanks intellectronica
[14:06] <allenap> intellectronica: Would you be able to review an external bug tracker branch for me? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~allenap/launchpad/trac-sniffing-broken-bug-504310/+merge/17139
[14:14] <intellectronica> allenap: of course
[14:14] <gary_poster> jml: I'm looking at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/use-testtools/+merge/16711
[14:14] <gary_poster> you there?
[14:14] <allenap> intellectronica: Thanks :)
[14:15] <gary_poster> jml lines 193 and 201 look like you have checked in diff cruft
[14:16] <gary_poster> other than that looks fine.  will comment as such.
[14:21] <intellectronica> allenap: why did you remove the assignment to html_data?
[14:21] <intellectronica> was it lint?
[14:22] <salgado> intellectronica, care to review another trivial one?  this time a testfix: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/355032/
[14:22] <allenap> intellectronica: Yes, lint.
[14:23] <intellectronica> salgado: sure, let me just finish with allenap's branch first
[14:24] <intellectronica> allenap: r=me
[14:24] <salgado> gary_poster, I was going to fix that in my testfix branch, but I don't see the conflict markers in that file, so I think jml solved the conflict before landing
[14:25] <allenap> intellectronica: Woohoo, thanks :)
[14:25] <gary_poster> salgado: great thanks
[14:26] <intellectronica> salgado: r=me
[14:26] <salgado> thanks intellectronica
[14:47] <bac> intellectronica: can i have a UI review?  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-419930/+merge/17015  note there are screenshots attached on the bug.
[14:48] <intellectronica> bac: sure, though note that i'm not a graduated ui reviewer. you will require an additional ui review after me (unless it's really trivial)
[14:49] <bac> intellectronica: darn, i forgot.  that would just be beuno and noodles at this point.
[14:49] <bac> intellectronica: but please have a look if you want
[14:50] <bac> beuno: could you do a mentored review for a UI change?
[14:50] <intellectronica> bac: sure thing
[14:50] <bac> thanks
[14:53] <intellectronica> bac: looks good. one thing i think can be improved is if we used the common format '[Merge accounts] or _Cancel_', instead of 'Submit'
[14:53] <beuno> bac, sure
[14:53] <bac> intellectronica: ok.  i'll make that change to both cases
[14:53] <intellectronica> bac: cool, so ui=me with that. let's see what beuno thinks
[14:53]  * beuno looks
[14:58] <beuno> bac, I have a few comments
[14:58] <beuno> IRC or MP?
[14:58] <bac> beuno: either
[14:59] <bac> beuno: i need to be afk for about 15 minutes, though
[14:59] <beuno> IRC it is
[14:59] <beuno> ok
[14:59] <beuno> MP it is  :)
[15:03] <hennige> mrevell: The help popups are missing CSS on my lp.dev and the spinner keeps spinning ...
[15:04] <hennige> mrevell: btw, I wonder if "continue" is the right labeling for the "close" button or the popup.
[15:04] <hennige> s/or/of/
[15:04] <mrevell> hennige, Hmm, that seems to happen on the live site too. As for the "Close" button, I have a bug for that and will fix it this cycle.
[15:04] <mrevell> hennige, I'm not sure what's happening with the stylesheet there.
[15:05]  * hennige revs up firebug
[15:05] <hennige> mrevell: 404 on reset.css, fonts.css, base.css
[15:05] <hennige> those are the YUI css base files.
[15:06] <beuno> intellectronica, bac, reviews and OOPSES!
[15:06] <mrevell> sinzui, I rocketfuel-branched so there shouldn't be any real divergence. As I say, the same problem shows on edge.
[15:07] <mrevell> sorry, hennige, not sinzui
[15:07] <beuno> rockstar, thumper, https://pastebin.canonical.com/26402/
[15:07] <mrevell> hennige, Do you know your nick is mis-spelt?
[15:08] <beuno> intellectronica, bac, I can't review, the MP oopses. So: http://paste.ubuntu.com/355050/
[15:08] <henninge> mrevell: didn't, thanks
[15:09] <intellectronica> beuno: what oopses, adding a comment to the mp?
[15:09] <beuno> intellectronica, a review, yes
[15:10] <intellectronica> beuno: let me try. worked for me with other MPs earlier
[15:10] <intellectronica> yep. oopses for me too :(
[15:20] <bac> beuno: thanks for the comments.  i'll get cracking on them
[15:42] <henninge> mrevell: I don't know what the change on "https://translations.launchpad.dev/~name16" is.
[15:42]  * henninge reads diff abain
[15:42] <bac> beuno: i assume your comment about wordiness applies to the old (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37626290/merge-visible-email.png) and new?
[15:42] <henninge> again
[15:43] <mrevell> henninge, It's the "More about reviewing" link
[15:43] <henninge> mrevell: ah, cool
[15:43] <henninge> mrevell: looking at the diff (again), I saw that the css files in question are being included in each html page. That boiler plate code has probably changed (or is gone).
[15:44] <mrevell> henninge, Should a merge from devel fix that?
[15:44] <henninge> mrevell: no, because those are new files you created.
[15:45] <mrevell> henninge, Oh, the html files for the pop-ups?
[15:45] <henninge> mrevell: you should look at one of the existing help html files and see how the <head> looks in those.
[15:45] <henninge> right
[15:45] <henninge> mrevell: oh no sorry, I forgot that it's not working on edge, either.
[15:45] <beuno> bac, it does
[15:45] <mrevell> henninge, Heh, I was just typing that
[15:46] <henninge> mrevell: but I don't see the 404 errors on edge.
[15:52] <mrevell> henninge, This is odd. All I did was rocketfuel-branch, so those 404 errors are derived from devel.
[15:52] <leonardr> flacoste, thanks for your reviews
[15:52] <leonardr> i'm going through them today
[15:53] <flacoste> leonardr: no problem
[15:53] <henninge> mrevell: finally found the "more about reviewing" link - I need to be logged in as a reviewer, obviously ... ;-)
[15:54] <mrevell> aha :)
[15:58] <henninge> mrevell: ah, my error. The 404's are on edge, too.
[15:59] <mrevell> henninge, So, I'm not sure what needs to be done about that. Do I need to change the help pop-ups to reference combo.css?
[16:04] <henninge> mrevell: yes, basically
[16:04] <henninge> mrevell: this is what the normal pages do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/355065/
[16:04]  * mrevell looks
[16:04] <henninge> mrevell: but I just tried that and it makes everything centered.
[16:05] <mrevell> henninge, Heh, yeah, so it does. Hmm. :)
[16:05] <henninge> mrevell: so the help files might also need some class added somewhere.
[16:05] <henninge> mrevell: which brings us back to asking sinzui if he can help us ... ;-)
[16:05] <mrevell> :)
[16:06] <henninge> mrevell: also, that line will have been generated somehow to include the correct revision number.
[16:06] <henninge> some TAL
[16:07] <henninge> mrevell: or maybe salgado can help?
[16:07] <mrevell> henninge, Ah, that's a shame as they've been nice and simple HTML up until now. I'll ask Mr Salgado :) Cheers henninge
[16:07] <allenap> intellectronica: Up for another external bug tracker branch? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~allenap/launchpad/kde-bugzilla-being-odd/+merge/17142
[16:07] <henninge> mrevell: ask him here, so I can learn, too.
[16:08] <henninge> or on #lp-dev
[16:08] <mrevell> salgado, same questions as I just asked elsewhere :)
[16:08] <intellectronica> allenap: on the phone, but can do it in ~30m
[16:08] <mrevell> salgado, I'm asking because we need to somehow translate that to the help pop-ups too
[16:08] <allenap> intellectronica: Cool, thanks, that would be great. I'll put it on the queue; maybe henninge will get to it first.
[16:09] <mrevell> salgado, Perhaps we could have a chat when you're off your call.
[16:09] <salgado> mrevell, sure
[16:09] <mrevell> thanks :)
[16:09] <henninge> allenap: I will look at it but I will not last much longer ...
[16:10] <allenap> henninge: Hehe, don't worry then. It's certainly not urgent.
[16:36] <henninge_> allenap: yes, thank you. I have to stop now.
[16:51] <salgado> mrevell, I'm free now
[16:54] <mrevell> hi salgado. The help pop-ups (as an example lib/lp/translations/help/translation-groups.html) need to be reworked for combo.css. henning mentioned that they'll probably need some TAL now to update the version number.
[16:54] <mrevell> salgado, Is that something you can help with?
[16:55] <salgado> mrevell, why do they need to be re-worked for combo.css?
[16:55] <mrevell> salgado, Because I believe the css files the pop-ups rely on have been deleted. Take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/+help/openid.html for an example
[16:57] <salgado> mrevell, oh, no, that's not because of my combo.css work -- it's because the latest lazr-js moved these files to a different place
[16:57] <mrevell> oh right
[16:57] <salgado> mrevell, https://edge.launchpad.net/+icing/yui/cssreset/reset.css
[16:57] <salgado> mrevell, so, just drop /current/build from the path
[16:57] <mrevell> salgado, aha, thanks :)
[17:06] <allenap> intellectronica: I've got to head off soon to pick up Robin. I'll be back on at about 2030, but I assume you'll be gone by then. It's not urgent, so please leave it for tomorrow if you'd rather chat about it.
[17:07] <allenap> intellectronica: When I say "leave it for tomorrow", I mean I'll ask tomorrow's OCR to look at it.
[17:08] <intellectronica> allenap: okie doke
[17:11] <allenap> intellectronica: Cool. Of course, if there's no OCR I might come knocking... :)
[19:51] <leonardr> flacoste, would you take a look at my most recent comment at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~leonardr/lazr.restful/multiversion-collection/+merge/16924 and let me know if i'm missing anything?
[19:56] <thumper> beuno: please file a bug with the oops, and I'll try to get to it today
[19:57] <beuno> thumper, will do, thanks
[20:01] <rockstar> al-maisan, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/launchpad/branch-scanner-job/+merge/17132
[20:34] <al-maisan> jml: could you please review the schema patch we discussed yesterday (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/bq-platform-columns-505725/+merge/17125) ?
[20:35] <jml> al-maisan, sure.
[20:36] <jml> al-maisan, once I'm done w/ bfiller on #launchpad
[20:36] <al-maisan> jml: thanking you :)
[20:39] <jml> al-maisan, done. approved.
[21:06] <al-maisan> rockstar: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/bq-platform-columns-505725/+merge/17125
[22:56] <rockstar> al-maisan, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/launchpad/job-suspended-status/+merge/17173
[23:41] <thumper> mwhudson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/imports-urls/+merge/17172
[23:48] <thumper> mwhudson: diff updated sans-conflicts


[17:34] <Zigi> Hi all, trying to install my DVBSKy S952 Tuner in Mythtbuntu. Im not sure wich type to choose, neither am i sure if the card is even recognised. Any suggestions how to install the device / see installed devices in xfce?
[17:41] <superm1> Zigi: if it's a usb tuner you can check under lsusb to see if it recognized on the USB bus
[17:41] <superm1> you can check dmesg for messages about it if a driver automatically loaded too
[17:42] <Zigi> its a pci device
[17:42] <superm1> and use lspci to see if it was recognized on the PCI bus then
[17:42] <Zigi> lspci should work right ?
[17:42] <Zigi> :)
[17:42] <Zigi> but im not familiar with the prints.
[17:42] <Zigi> pretty confusing
[17:43] <superm1> well dvb devices are in a class of either usually they'll just work or you have to go load the newer DVB stack from linuxtv.org
[17:43] <superm1> so you can look in /dev for dvb device nodes too
[17:44] <Zigi> ive got one called conexangt systems [...] pci video audio decoder (rev 02)
[17:44] <Zigi> seems like its that one.
[17:45] <superm1> so that means it's at least recognized on the PCI bus and the ID is in the PCI database on the system
[17:45] <superm1> you can check lsmod for modules that might have been loaded for it automatically
[17:46] <Zigi> what am i looking for ?
[17:46] <Zigi> used by 2 ?
[17:47] <Zigi> sry im a rookie :(
[17:48] <superm1> well have you just tried using the deviec?
[17:48] <Zigi> im not sure how.
[17:48] <Zigi> i added a dvb device in mythbackend
[17:48] <superm1> ok so it did see a device node there then?
[17:48] <superm1> and it recognized the name while in mythtv-setup
[17:49] <Zigi> no, thats why i was wondering
[17:50] <Zigi> i wasnt able to choose any matching name
[18:08] <superm1> well if you couldn't match any devices there, then look in /dev/ for stuff with dvb in the name
[18:09] <superm1> if there is nothing there, then you'll probably want to google your device and see if you can find out what driver it's supposed to be using
[18:10] <superm1> a quick look at http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVBSKY_S952 mentions some firmware that you might need to be installing
[18:10] <Zinn> [linuxtv.org] DVBSKY S952 - LinuxTVWiki
[18:10] <superm1> it might be included in the linux-firmware-nonfree package or the linux-firmware package if you don't have either of those installed
[18:10] <superm1> if it's not in either of them, you might have to obtain that to make your device work
[18:13] <Zigi> ok thx for those hints.
[18:13] <Zigi> ill try to get it to work
[18:14] <Zigi> i found a firmware on the homepage.