[15:19] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Have you had any trouble with Cosmic? I try booting my install, but it freezes about 20 seconds in, even if I leave it alone at lightdm. Can't even go to a VT.
[19:25] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I have had no trouble with cosic so far. But I have not re-installed it since early June, only upgraded


[00:04] <punisher355> hello
[00:24] <punisher355> so im looking for some help
[00:24] <punisher355> but im stil lnew to everything lol
[00:26] <punisher355> sudo xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[00:26] <punisher355> sudo xrandr --addmode DP-2-2  1920x1080_60.00
[00:26] <punisher355> xrandr --output DP-2-2 --mode 1920x1080_60.00
[00:28] <punisher355> gives the error xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed
[01:36] <user|45003> sdisplay setting doesn't show required resolution whrn i set custom resolution through xrandr it is in  16:9 how to get it in 4:3 aspect ratio
[01:37] <user|45003> the display setting doesn't show required resolution when i set custom resolution through xrandr it is in  16:9 how to get it in 4:3 aspect ratio
[03:16] <darylAtWork> Hello anyone?
[05:30] <Shesh> Hi
[05:42] <IrcsomeBot1> <Supun Wijesinghe> I cant save my wifi password..  always need to type when I log.. any idea to solve ?
[05:43] <viktor_> Hi all. My wallpapers are disappearing all the time when booting or switching activities. This is happening since starting to use ext moni. Sometimes the panel is gone on boot too. Any ideas why / how to fix?
[05:44] <IrcsomeBot1> <Supun Wijesinghe> I cant save my wifi password..  always need to type when I log.. any idea to solve ?
[05:51] <diogenes_> Supun Wijesinghe, try this: sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/yournetwork.nmconnection
[05:52] <diogenes_> and put your password in: [wifi-security]
[05:52] <diogenes_> psk=password
 Can I change aspect ratio of monitor through xrandr
[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/BD3M91Ph/file_29299.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3oZvLpI5/file_29300.jpg I am trying to add custom resolution that is not available when I use cvt-r for modeline it does cover the whole screen but it is not optimal and when I use normal CVT there are balnk screen any help
 Upgrade advice needed!
 (Photo, 1280x959) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/YKHInqa4/file_29301.jpg
 Looking in Software Sources all ppa's are disabled. Focal repos are added. Under Ubuntu software everything is UNchecked! ?
 So, I switched back on the Ubuntu software Repo's - Universe etc. Upgrader will not run without updates to be installed. Focal updates identified. Running updates. 😬 I will then try to switch to the main server and run release upgrade again. 🤞
 Updates complete. Release upgrader says, 'There is no development version of an LTS available'. Can I force release upgrader to re-run - or just restart? Do I need to autoremove first?
 (Photo, 893x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/m7c2YhsZ/file_29302.jpg
 so with 20.04 came this Default Device option
 The idea is good, but it keeps changing when you plug in a new device. How can I make it stay with one device?
 If you click on default device, what happens?
 Isn't it going to be permanent?
 If I am not wrong when you click on the speaker icon on the desktop and you see all the devices, you can click with the right button of the mouse on the device and set "play all the audio with this device"
[09:04] <karstenk> Hello! Have updated to 20.04 LTS, all seems fine, but notepadqq doesnt show any content anymore, can openfiles, but the editor field is not there and I cannot close files etc.  Any idea? Have reinstalled after all purged, but same behavior
 @Franzpow, no, unfortunately not
[09:44] <rafael98> help
[10:13] <user|54652> KDE connect problem
[10:13] <user|54652> Iam on Kubuntu 20.04. My smartphone is google pixel 2 xl and running android 10. I dont know where the problem is, on the same phone during Android8/9 i am able to connect my phone through kde connect on 19.04/ 18.04. But now its not connecting. I tried from play-store as well f-android. Please help
[10:24] <user|26820> hi can anyone help with custom resolution
[10:25] <user|26820> when i use xrandr it doesn't cover whole screen
[10:25] <user|26820> but if i copu modline from cvt-r is shows a zoomed screen
[10:26] <user|26820> *copy
[10:51] <eeos> hi everybody, anyone who knows of a good microblogging client for Kubuntu that supports twitter? I tried choqok, mikutter and even corebird, but they are all quite buggy on kubuntu 18.04 64 bit.
[10:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <Supun Wijesinghe> @diogenes_, can you put an example please
[11:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:26] <eeos> hi everybody, anyone who knows of a good microblogging client for Kubuntu that supports twitter? I tried choqok, mikutter and even corebird, but they are all quite buggy on kubuntu 18.04 64 bit.
[13:07] <IrcsomeBot1> <Supun Wijesinghe> is there on-screen keyboard by default ?
 @valorie, Hey @Valoriez , following up like I said I would.  I was successfully able to Upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 with a ZFS root / boot / home.  It was pretty straight forward process which took about 12 steps. … #1.     Upgrade Current System to latest state from repositories: … sudo apt update … sudo apt upgrade … #2.     Reboot if necessary … sudo shutdown -r now … #3.     Run Distribution Release upgrade Command:
[16:34] <IrcsomeBot1> do-release-upgrade -d … #4.     When asked at the end, Do not Reboot just yet: … #5. Re-Check the ZFS Pools upgrade:  … 'sudo zpool status' show an interesting message: … ... … action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'.... … ... … because it moved from 0.7.5 to 8.2 and there are more features there. … I had 2 zpools: … bootpool  … rootpoot … $ zfs list … NAME                              USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUN
[16:34] <IrcsomeBot1>                      1.01G   865M   96K    / … bootpool/BOOT                  1.01G   865M   96K    none … bootpool/BOOT/kubuntu    1.01G   865M   226M   legacy … rootpool                              1.22T    595G   96K     / … rootpool/ROOT                   63.5G   595G   96K     none … rootpool/ROOT/kubuntu     63.5G   595G   25.2G   / … rootpool/home                    1.14T    595G   966G   /home … rootpool/home/root
[16:34] <IrcsomeBot1> 595G   2.01M   /root … rootpool/swap                     21.3G   616G   420K    - … #6.     Reboot (might not be necessary, but this is what I did) … #7.     upgrade rootpool … sudo zpool upgrade rootpool … # 8.    Upgrade bootpool … upon reboot I could no longer find my bootpool /boot which was interesting... it looked as if when upgrading ZFS, it unmounted the 'bootpool', and then when installing the new kernel, it must have crea
[16:34] <IrcsomeBot1> and did a grub-install after...  I may need re-run these steps and find out all the differences.  I had to import  … sudo zpool import -f bootpool … sudo zpool status … sudo zpool upgrade bootpool … Double check my /etc/fstab for the mount (because /boot was not managed my zfs confg … cat /etc/fstab : … bootpool/BOOT/kubuntu                      /boot           zfs     nodev,relatime,x-systemd.requires=zfs-import-bootpool.service
[16:34] <IrcsomeBot1>  0 … /dev/zvol/rootpool/swap none swap discard 0 0 … *Note the systemd.require* it was there from my previous install because when booting up, ZFS was trying to import the pool too early and was unsuccessful - Documentation for /root & /boot zfs install suggested creating this file to change the order of import … # 9.    Mount /boot … sudo mount /boot  … #10.    Update Grub … sudo update-grub … #11.    Update ZFS Import Bootpools
[16:34] <IrcsomeBot1> Script: … Remove 'Before=zfs-import-scan.service' from /etc/systemd/system/zfs-import-bootpool.service … so it now looked like this: … cat /etc/systemd/system/zfs-import-bootpool.service …     [Unit] …     DefaultDependencies=no …     Before=zfs-import-cache.service …     [Service] …     Type=oneshot …     RemainAfterExit=yes …     ExecStart=/sbin/zpool import -N -o cachefile=none bootpool …     [Install] …     WantedBy
 Here is my disk layout: … $ zpool status …   pool: bootpool …  state: ONLINE …   scan: scrub repaired 0B in 0h0m with 0 errors on Sun May 10 00:24:05 2020 … config: …         NAME                                                     STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM …         bootpool                                                 ONLINE       0     0     0 …           mirror-0
[16:36] <IrcsomeBot1>   0     0 …             ata-Samsung_SSD_850_EVO_120GB_S21WNXAH157789A-part3  ONLINE       0     0     0 …             ata-Samsung_SSD_850_EVO_120GB_S21VNXAG734579X-part3  ONLINE       0     0     0 … errors: No known data errors …   pool: rootpool …  state: ONLINE …   scan: scrub repaired 0B in 0h44m with 0 errors on Sun May 10 01:08:41 2020 … config: …         NAME                                                 STATE     READ
[16:36] <IrcsomeBot1>       rootpool                                             ONLINE       0     0     0 …           mirror-0                                           ONLINE       0     0     0 …             nvme-INTEL_SSDPEKNW020T8_PHNH9024003J2P0C-part1  ONLINE       0     0     0 …             nvme-INTEL_SSDPEKNW020T8_PHNH9024009C2P0C-part1  ONLINE       0     0     0 … errors: No known data errors … $ zpool list … NAME          SIZE  ALLOC   FRE
[16:36] <IrcsomeBot1>  FRAG    CAP  DEDUP  HEALTH  ALTROOT … bootpool     1.98G  1.01G   993M         -    24%    51%  1.00x  ONLINE  - … rootpool     1.86T  1.20T   676G         -    51%    64%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
[16:39] <oerheks> zparihar, please use past.ubuntu.com,  thanks
[16:39] <oerheks> this is unreadable
[17:02] <alejandroc> When I boot Kubuntu my desktop changes icons display en blocks, any idea? thanks
[17:20] <ryansocratic> Hello, I have recently discovered that I no longer have permissions to install software via graphical interface, disconnect from my wireless network (or connect to one for that matter), install packages from terminal when non-sudo among other "normal" functions. The last couple somewhat-significant things that have occured over the past week or so are my upgrade to kernel version 5.6.11 and my switch to Kubuntu 20.04. Plasma version  5.18.4. I am
[17:20] <ryansocratic> not completely sure those events coincide perfectly with this permissions issue but it's close. Any ideas why this happened and how to correct? Thanks in advance!
[17:22] <oerheks> so you installed the kernel version 5.6.11 from 'mainline?
[18:37] <buddyboy> is kleopatra safest way to safely download????
[18:39] <buddyboy> i would like to download some  distros for usb booting
[19:04] <valorie> kleopatra doesn't download things
[19:04] <valorie> safest way to download ISOs imo is via torrents
[19:05] <valorie> ryansocratic: sounds like you ran sudo when either running GUI apps or when you didn't need to and thus were not supposed to
[19:05] <valorie> try chown ing your $HOME and see if that fixes the issue
[19:05] <valorie> !chown
 @oerheks, aahhh... sorry... I'll use it from now on!
 Hey @Valoriez , I'm following up like I said I would.  I was successfully able to Upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 with a ZFS root / boot / home.  It was pretty straight forward process which took about 12 steps. … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yFP5gRbXCz/
 Zubin, good post, thanks for sharing!
[20:30] <IrcsomeBot1> chanukadc was added by: chanukadc
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/G20vDJNJ/file_29341.jpg 😕😕😕
 Help me
 How to fix this
[20:40] <Tuxar> @chanukadc if you have this *.deb downloaded you can try with terminal commands: sudo dpkg -i "package" , and after that if some errors persists with dependencies run: sudo apt install --fix-broken
 I highly recommend ventoy.  *ubuntu 20.04 requires the beta release: https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.08beta2
[21:08] <IrcsomeBot1> No -bin was added by: No -bin
[21:11] <IrcsomeBot1> <No -bin> Is there any page where we can see present known bugs of particular kubuntu version. Like some app development of GitHub has page were known bugs are listed.
 @No -bin, KDE bugs or Ubuntu bugs?
 https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=20.04&list_id=1744646
[21:14] <IrcsomeBot1> <No -bin> I want know particularly about kubuntu bionic beaver actually. Because that's what I'm planning to use
 https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=18.04&list_id=1744647
[21:18] <IrcsomeBot1> <No -bin> @DarinMiller, Thanks
[22:09] <Rob66> Anyone here try installing Kubuntu on a toughbook cf-31?


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[07:43] <Kilos> why?
[07:43] <charl> then i can register it
[07:43] <Kilos> ah
[07:44] <Kilos> you mean someone else had it
[07:44] <charl> some *sshole that registered it and never even used it
[07:44] <charl> 09:37 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last seen  : Aug 29 13:02:30 2012 (1 year, 43 weeks, 5 days, 18:34:55 ago)
[07:44] <Kilos> ya do that
[07:45] <Kilos> like when i started within a week my name was stolen and registered
[07:45] <JabberwockyA19> morning everyone o/
[07:45] <charl> hi JabberwockyA19
[07:45] <Kilos> thats when i swopped to kilos and registered
[07:47] <charl> hi Vince-0
[07:47] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:48] <Vince-0> haai mense
[08:10] <charl> bbl
[08:25] <charl> i has it :)
[08:28] <Kilos> good no more dragging tail
[08:29] <charl> lol
[08:29] <charl> i get no more tail now ?
[08:29] <charl> oh well i had enough tail already
[08:31] <Kilos> haha only if you disconnect and reconnect quickly
[08:37] <charl> nah i take it slow
[12:15] <mazal> Hi everyone
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo mazal
[12:16] <mazal> Is it possible , with Ubuntu to create a LVM of two drives after install , and the two drives is not part of the OS
[12:16] <Kilos> hi mazal
[12:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[12:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think so, but you need to describe in more detail
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> paste output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd?' to http://slexy.org/
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> and also 'mount
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> and also 'mount', 'pvs' & 'lvs'
[12:19] <mazal> Here is my scenario , currently my Ubuntu runs on an external HDD. 14.04
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok
[12:19] <mazal> Backups runs to another external
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok
[12:20] <mazal> However , my data ( that get's backed up ) has become too much for the 2TB backup drive.
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> right
[12:20] <mazal> Now I am thinking of putting in 2x2TB internals and make one volume of them
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok
[12:21] <mazal> But without re-installing my OS or installing my OS on the internals
[12:21] <mazal> This possible ?
[12:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> so they will just be storage, not hosting any O/S filesystems?
[12:21] <mazal> Correct. OS must stay on external as I use it at home and at work. OS must stay mobile
[12:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[12:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah you can do that
[12:22] <mazal> I know zero of LVM so don't even know where to start
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you realise in that scenario, if 1 disk fails, your entire LVM is irrecoverable
[12:22] <mazal> I just know LVM can make 1 big volume of multiple drives
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> i assume you're ok with that since its for backup space
[12:22] <mazal> Yeah that part bothers me a bit , maybe I must just keep two drives seperate and seperate the backups between them
[12:23] <mazal> 2 Seperate shares and just manage what goes where
[12:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> or get a third disk and make a RAID5 volume
[12:24] <mazal> I know even less of RAID lol
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> but yeah, without RAID, LVM just adds space together, and if a part of it dies the whole volume dies
[12:24] <mazal> Don't one need expensive raid cards for that ?
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, linux software raid is perfectly feasible on modern hardware
[12:25] <mazal> Does RAID 5 add space together ?
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> RAID5 requires at least 3 disks
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you only get the usable space of 2
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> what happens is that every piece of data written is written in such a way that 1 missing piece can be re-constructed from the 2 non-missing pieces
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> (assuming a 3-disk array)
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> so in a RAID5 array with 3 disks, 1 entire disk can be lost and the data can still be read
[12:27] <mazal> So 3x TB disks gives 4tb usable space ?
[12:27] <mazal> 3x 2TB
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> correct
[12:27] <mazal> Hmm
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> for RAID5, your usable capacity is (n-1) x size of disk
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> where n is the number of disks
[12:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> for RAID6 you can lose 2 whole disks so your usable capacity is (n-2) x size of disk
[12:28] <mazal> I will think a bit what the best option will be
[12:28] <mazal> All the data will be backups , not live data
[12:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> so a RAID6 with 5x 2TB disks gives you 3x 2TB of capacity, and up to 2 disks can fail completely and your data is still accessible
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> if it were me and its for backup only I'd just go with RAID0 or LVM
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> actually if it were me i'd make it way more complicated probably ;-)
[12:30] <mazal> What's RAID0 ?
[12:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'd probably split each disk and have a RAID1 for crazy important data and a RAID0 for other stuff
[12:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> RAID0 is a "stripe", where your data is split and each disk gets a piece
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> so if you lose a disk you lose all the pieces on that disk and the data as a whole is also toast
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> similar to LVM, except LVM is more flexible as you can add any old size to an LVM but RAID0 pieces must be of equal size
[12:31] <mazal> So RAID0 will give 4TB as 1 volume , but everything gone if 1 drive fails ?
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> yup
[12:32] <mazal> In a 2x 2TB setup
[12:32] <mazal> So RAID0 is same as LVM basically  ?
[12:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> almost, the members of a RAID0 must be the same size, but you can add any old bit of disk to LVM
[12:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> but in terms of "lost 1 piece, lose the whole pie", yes the same
[12:34] <mazal> Ok thanx Greame , will go think about all the options and decide what would be best
[12:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> good luck :-)
[12:55] <mazal> Bye everyone
[15:31] <Kilos> sorry, swopping modems
[17:37] <Kilos> grrrr i forgot the e220 times out
[17:37] <Kilos> ohi my superfly
[17:38] <Kilos> hows you and the family
[17:56] <Kilos> oi oi oi
[18:21] <superfly> Maaz: Tell Kilos Hi, we're all fine. How are you?
[18:21] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[18:27] <Kilos> ah superfly sorry . i got something wrong here with modems disconnecting all the time
[18:27] <Kilos> apart from cold im good too ty
[18:27] <superfly> no problem
[18:27] <superfly> I'm not here all the time
[18:28] <Kilos> ya i n oticed
[18:28] <Kilos> took my new dlink to xp for a while and since them it seems to timeout like the e220 does
[18:28] <Kilos> grrrr
[18:37] <charl> wb Kilos
[18:37] <charl> hi superfly
[18:37] <Kilos> ty charl
[18:38] <Kilos> running mtr to see if timeouts will stop
[19:49] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[12:38] <cc> hi, good morning
[02:24] <jbailey> Hi Andrew!
[02:28] <zul> hey jbailey
[02:34] <dilinger> fabbione: is the hct stuff what you guys were referring to w/ the autobuilt kernels?
[03:21] <fabbione> yo
[03:21] <fabbione> dilinger: nope.
[03:21] <fabbione> hct is a patch management system
[03:21] <fabbione> or something like that
[03:21] <dilinger> i thought it was tied in w/ grumpy
[03:22] <zul> hey fabbione how is it going?
[03:22] <fabbione> it is
[03:22] <fabbione> zul: tired. jetlag is hitting me
[03:22] <zul> ah
[03:23] <fabbione> dilinger: it supposed to be tied with all our packages since warty :)
[03:23] <fabbione> dilinger: we will see when it is ready to go production
[03:24] <fabbione> since i have been assigned as secondary leader for hct integration
[03:24] <dilinger> yea, i saw that, which is why i asked:)
[03:25] <fabbione> dilinger: if i only knew myself...
[03:25] <fabbione> in any case hct can't handle the kernel yet
[03:25] <dilinger> heh
[03:25] <fabbione> so no worries :)
[03:26] <fabbione> BREAK TIME!
[03:28] <zul> right im going to bed..
[03:28] <zul> c ya later guys
[04:00] <zul> heh...back for more punishment
[07:05] <lamont_r> dilinger: hct == "hypothetical changeset tool"
[02:47] <zul> heylo
[05:12] <zul> *sigh* what a crappy day
[05:14] <kylem> ?
[05:14] <zul> contract is running out this week with the government
[05:14] <kylem> ah.
[05:15] <zul> and i have no one to bug
[06:17] <ivoks> hi
[06:32] <ivoks> anyone?
[08:05] <T-Bone> howdy
[08:06] <zul> hey T-Bone how goes it?
[08:06] <T-Bone> so-so
[08:06] <zul> how come?
[08:06] <T-Bone> boring work, and minor physical issues
[08:07] <zul> fun fun
[08:07] <T-Bone> i wasn't supposed to crash again 3 weeks ago when I went skiing. I've re-awakened a neck problem I had last summer
[08:07] <T-Bone> ;P
[08:08] <T-Bone> s/summer/winter/
[08:08] <zul> ouch sucky..its been real quiet today
[08:08] <T-Bone> heh
[08:08] <T-Bone> i bet they're all doing stuff at UDU
[08:08] <T-Bone> i've been looking at the UDU wiki, seen about everybody here participating to it
[08:08] <zul> yeah...
[08:08] <zul> i saw chunks of it
[08:09] <T-Bone> hehe
[08:09] <zul> ttp://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxKernelRoadmap?highlight=%28Kernel%29
[08:10] <zul> nothing new really
[08:10] <T-Bone> nope
[08:10] <zul> heh i been busy as well
[08:10] <T-Bone> i'd need to talk to lamont-away, too bad he's not here
[08:11] <T-Bone> ah? whaddidya do? :)
[08:11] <zul> i think they are all asleep anyways
[08:11] <T-Bone> good point
[08:11] <zul> 3rd party drivers and some cleaning up warnings
[08:11] <T-Bone> hoho
[08:11] <T-Bone> submitting patches upstream? :)
[08:11] <zul> kerneljanitors...when i get home tonight
[08:11] <T-Bone> good :)
[08:11] <T-Bone> good boy ;)
[08:12] <zul> i aint a dog..
[08:12] <T-Bone> lol
[08:12] <zul> and going to be doing some job hunting
[08:12] <zul> i also found this http://mandriva.contactel.cz/people/svetljo/mandrake/kernel/3rdparty_drivers.html
[08:13] <T-Bone> wow
[08:13] <T-Bone> that's nice
[08:13] <T-Bone> we should have something alike
[08:13] <zul> yeah..
[11:29] <chuck_> hey


[02:47] <wxl> wtf?  lmms : Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed
[06:36] <wxl> hey so how do you unmount a pcmanfm mounted sftp share?
[06:36] <wxl> gvfs-mount isn't installed, so..
[06:37] <wxl> i could kill the ssh process but that's lame
[07:12] <wxl> found it on computer:/// at least but there's no unmount option
[09:08] <marcus_> hi all. i wanted to read the log of the last meeting(s) but the url(s) seems to be broken, e.g. http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-11-20.05.log.html
[09:10] <Unit193> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-11-20.05.log.txt
[09:10] <Unit193> You can also find them on irclogs.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <marcus_> ah, thanks a lot
[09:13] <Unit193> Fedora looking at Lubuntu logs? ;)
[09:13] <marcus_> should i correct the links in the wiki?
[09:14] <marcus_> ah, you mean my cloak. don't bother about that. i have to work with fedora/redhat at my day job
[09:14] <Unit193> That'd be good, I  didn't know they were wrong really :P
[09:14] <marcus_> np.
[09:14] <Unit193> (I was kidding, I don't care)
[09:14] <marcus_> but hopefully we can migrate to (l)ubuntu this year, at least the student labs
[09:15] <marcus_> hrhr
[09:15] <marcus_> the bad thing is that we have to authenticate our clients against active directory
[09:15] <marcus_> and i have to figure out if that works with lxdm
[09:16] <Unit193> With the next releasw it'll be LightDM anyway
[09:16] <Unit193> 12.04
[09:17] <marcus_> ah, ok. that should work
[09:17] <marcus_> so i don't have to waste that much energy on lxdm ;)
[09:20] <marcus_> besides that, i want to do a talk about lubuntu at our next ubucon. are there any slides/templates available, already?
[09:24] <Unit193> There was a showoff section (can't remember the real name :P )
[09:25]  * Unit193 really was just kidding :(
[09:25] <marcus_> np
[09:31] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lxtask and hardinfo show the different size of physical memory. lxtask(1001Mb) hardinfo(1025Mb) Why?
[09:33] <Unit193> How they calculate it, I'd think that lxtask doesn't count memory used by graphics
[09:33] <marcus_> all links to irc logs corrected
[09:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> discret video with discret memory
[10:07] <MrChrisDruif> !help firefox
[12:25] <draioch> hi my login user/pass suddenly no work no more tried all obvious any way to reset it using latest lubuntu thx
[12:26] <bioterror> init=/bin/bash
[12:26] <draioch> was that for me bioterror thx?
[12:26] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[12:27] <draioch> thx
[13:10] <sysmatck> hello! I made an conf. on my desktop and now the right button of my mouse opens an different menu... I would like to turn back the conf. but I cant find the app that changes wallpaper were I did the conf...
[13:15] <sysmatck> anyone knows the of the app who make that conf. I think that is enough for me to reach it trough terminal!
[13:17] <bioterror> sysmatck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Right-clicking_on_desktop_pulls_up_a_menu_that_is_missing_the_.22Desktop_Preferences.22_option_and_now_I_can.27t_change_my_wallpaper
[13:19] <sysmatck> bioterror, tnx! problem solved...
[13:32] <draioch> bioterror having wee prob with step 5 in above link  Go to the very end of the line, change the ro to rw and add init=/bin/bash
[13:32] <draioch> when in grub cant find "change ro to rw..."
[13:37] <draioch> only line in grub with "ro"  is "ro    splash quiet vt.handoff....."
[13:40] <draioch> do i edit "ro" to "rw" and delete the rest of the line and add init=/bin/bash
[13:45] <bioterror> no
[13:45] <bioterror> you just add init=/bin/bash to the end of it
[13:45] <draioch> ah thx
[13:48] <draioch> so i change ro to rw in line 10 and add init=/bin/bash to the end of line 11 after "generic " with a space between
[14:41] <patinux1> Hola acabo de instalar lubuntu en un AMD viejuno con 250 mb RAM, tengo la duda de como instalar el adobe flash para ver videos de youtube...
[14:43] <noobuntu> tengo mono de windows :S
[14:44] <noobuntu> en velocidad comparado con el XP tampoco es que se note mucho
[14:47] <grobda24> Does task manager show correct memory usage ?
[14:47] <grobda24> On my system it shows 80mb used of 488mb
[14:47] <grobda24> But "free -t -m" shows 234 used of 253
[14:52] <holstein> i would trust free
[14:58] <grobda24> holstein, that's what I thought
[14:58] <grobda24> but I'm aware it depends how the system is set up
[14:58] <grobda24> as the kernel can set up a lot of buffers
[14:58] <grobda24> that are released when a big application starts up
[14:59] <holstein> i like conky too
[14:59] <tatabgd> how to install prism google talk on lubuntu 11.10, I cant find it in synaptic pm
[15:01] <holstein> maybe it was taken out tatabgd http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=prism-google-talk
[15:01] <holstein> i would probably just try the .deb
[15:04] <tatabgd> is it work on lubuntu, I mean it is file for fo ubuntu?
[15:05] <tatabgd> they are:hardy, lucid, maverik, which one for lubuntu 11.10?
[15:06] <holstein> tatabgd: thats what i mean
[15:06] <holstein> its been taken out it seems
[15:06] <holstein> so its not available in the repositories for 11.10
[15:06] <holstein> i would have no problem trying a .deb from an earlier version
[15:07] <holstein> but, it might not work..
[15:07] <tatabgd> ok, but I didnt find .deb
[15:08] <holstein> tatabgd: you can get to it via the links i gave
[15:08] <holstein> or you could look around and see how other folks are doing it
[15:08] <holstein> maybe just installing google talk, and then prism
[15:10] <tatabgd> ok,thanks
[15:10] <holstein> http://pkgs.org/download/prism-google-talk for example
[15:11] <holstein> that should either work, or kick up an error that you can easily resolve, and revert from
[15:14] <tatabgd> am I wrong when I say that Lubuntu10.04 work better than new 11.10?
[15:15] <holstein> tatabgd: better is a matter of opinion
[15:15] <holstein> lubuntu is ubuntu with LXDE
[15:15] <holstein> they are the same repositories
[15:15] <holstein> the reason you might prefer 10.04 to 11.10 is that 10.04 is an LTS (long term support)
[15:16] <tatabgd> on my hardware, lubuntu 11.10 is crash several time, why?
[15:16] <holstein> you might have or encounter some hardware that is not supported in 11.10 that was well supported in 10.04
[15:17] <holstein> tatabgd: i would say the kerne is a great place to start.. you can look for bug reports relating to your hardware... you can try 12.04, the upcoming release LIVE
[16:24] <pip__>  hi I'm trying to access a netgear driver disc & when I stick it in the tray nothing happens.  How do I mount this manually?
[16:27] <Folklore> yes SOPA is squashed!! http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/16/1457237/house-kills-sopa pipa still alive though
[17:10] <epictetus> holstein: lubuntu's slightly more different than just ubuntu with lxde, right"?
[17:10] <epictetus> like for instance there is no pulseaudio
[17:10] <epictetus> (pulseaudio is the bane of my existance on normal ubuntu systems, it is such a hog)
[17:31] <holstein> epictetus: sure
[17:32] <holstein> the very same pulse version is in the repositories though
[17:32] <holstein> so is the same LXDE version
[17:32] <holstein> they are capable of being the same.. of course they are customized
[17:35] <holstein> depending on how you are looking at it, if you want to take software version #'s into account, there are way more similarities between ubuntu 11.10 and lubuntu 11.10, vs. lubuntu 11.10 and lubuntu 10.04
[17:37] <epictetus> yeahyeah
[17:40] <MrChrisDruif> ??
[18:52] <patinux1> para compartir una carpeta en lubuntu alguien me da alguna indicacion de que hay que instalar o un link?
[18:53] <bioterror> !es
[18:53] <patinux1> how to share folders in lubuntu?
[18:53] <bioterror> with smb.conf for example
[18:53] <bioterror> !samba
[18:54] <patinux1> ok ill watch that thx
[18:54] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/smb.conf
[18:54] <bioterror> mine for example
[18:54] <bioterror> you might want to remove comment from force group
[19:00] <bioterror> patinux1, so you need to install samba
[19:01] <bioterror> and configure that smb.conf and then start samba service
[19:02] <patinux1> im watching this sudo mkdir /media/mountname
[19:02] <patinux1> sorry i dont understand :P
[19:03] <patinux1> what that has to do
[19:03] <patinux1> so get to the config thing is still far to me i think
[19:03] <patinux1> first day with linux
[19:48] <ram19890> hi
[19:49] <ram19890> When i right click , i get the open-box settings . How to revert back to the normal settings ?
[19:52] <bioterror> ram19890, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Right-clicking_on_desktop_pulls_up_a_menu_that_is_missing_the_.22Desktop_Preferences.22_option_and_now_I_can.27t_change_my_wallpaper
[19:53] <ram19890> thanks
[20:38] <IdanSuper> Hello everybody, I need help, somebody know how to set up my wireless card? its model is:D-link DWL-650+
[20:38] <IdanSuper> oHH sorry I forget and I'm use Lubuntu 11.10
[20:41] <holstein> IdanSuper: open up a terminal and run
[20:41] <holstein> lspci
[20:41] <holstein> you can get the network card info from there, or paste it in a pastebin
[20:41] <IdanSuper> how to open terminal (It's my first time on linux)..
[20:41] <holstein> i think i have one of those, but you never know the chipset til you look
[20:41] <holstein> IdanSuper: you can find it in the menu
[20:41] <holstein> lxterm? something like that
[20:42] <Unit193> holstein: He should be able to try   sudo iwlist wlan0 scan  no?
[20:42] <IdanSuper> LXTERMINAL?
[20:43] <Unit193> Yeah....
[20:44] <holstein> Unit193: go for it!
[20:44] <holstein> thats probably better
[20:44] <holstein> i just go with what i know :)
[20:45] <IdanSuper> OK
[20:45] <IdanSuper> What I need to do after running the command:lspci?
[20:48] <holstein> IdanSuper: i say this in the nicest possible way
[20:48] <holstein> and mean no disrespect or ill will
[20:48] <holstein> i suggest getting another card
[20:48] <holstein> you *can* make that card work
[20:48] <holstein> its not trivial
[20:48] <holstein> and i tried so many ways, i forget which one worked
[20:49] <holstein> let me look and see if that is the exact hardware i have
[20:49] <IdanSuper> [22:48] <holstein> IdanSuper: i say this in the nicest possible way [22:48] == IdanSuper<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:48] ==  realname : 93-172-143-63.bb.netvision.net.il/<IP_ADDRESS> - [22:48] ==  channels : #lubuntu [22:48] ==  server   : rowling.freenode.net [Corvallis, OR, USA] [22:48] ==  idle     : 0 days 0 hours 2 minutes 44 seconds [connected: Mon Jan 16 22:37:21 2012] [22:48] == End of WHOIS [22:4
[20:49] <IdanSuper> oops
[20:49] <IdanSuper> Xliron@liron-laptop:~$   ISPCI ISPCI: command not found liron@liron-laptop:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 01) 00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 01) 00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 01) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controlle
[20:49] <holstein> i had it working, and reinstalled, and now its not, and it was something i forgot how i did it
[20:49] <holstein> IdanSuper: no worries
[20:49] <IdanSuper> this is what the terminal show to me..
[20:49] <holstein> IdanSuper: let me show you pastebin for that in the furtre
[20:50] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:50] <IdanSuper> why am I Need it?
[20:50] <holstein> IdanSuper: for the lines you pasted
[20:50] <holstein> so you dont flood the channel
[20:50] <holstein> and they fit
[20:51] <IdanSuper> Ohh yea okk sorry.. so now.. I can't do anything with my network card?
[20:51] <IdanSuper> cuz I saw a project called ACX100
[20:51] <IdanSuper> And it's so complicated for me :(
[20:51] <IdanSuper> maybe can you help me?
[20:51] <IdanSuper> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
[20:52] <holstein> i have a DWL-G650
[20:52] <holstein> B4
[20:52] <IdanSuper> ohh really?
[20:52] <holstein> doesnt really matter though
[20:52] <IdanSuper> what a coincidence :)
[20:52] <holstein> they can have different chipsets and be the same thing ;)
[20:52] <IdanSuper> so I think you are professional on it..
[20:52] <holstein> hehe
[20:52] <holstein> IdanSuper: far from it
[20:53] <holstein> these days, hardware is so cheap
[20:53] <IdanSuper> yeah right... so you can help me to run acx100?
[20:53] <IdanSuper> you try it?
[20:53] <holstein> IdanSuper: is this something you can return?
[20:53] <holstein> IdanSuper: ill try it
[20:53] <IdanSuper> return to who?
[20:53] <holstein> IdanSuper: did you just buy it?
[20:54] <IdanSuper> no.. it's my uncle computer.. he flew to Portugle so he gave me his computer
[20:54] <IdanSuper> my computer is: IBM ThinkPad G40 From 2004
[20:54] <holstein> score!
[20:54] <IdanSuper> And it's came with this wireless adapter
[20:55] <holstein> IdanSuper: OK
[20:55] <IdanSuper> so after 8 years I don't think I can return it back..
[20:55] <holstein> run lspci
[20:55] <IdanSuper> ok..
[20:55] <holstein> and paste that output in a pastebin
[20:55] <holstein> so i can see it *all*
[20:55] <holstein> and i'll get this up and runing here
[20:55] <holstein> running*
[20:56] <IdanSuper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/806664/
[20:56] <holstein> IdanSuper: just so you know
[20:57] <holstein> this could likely be something that in 40 minutes, neither of us have wifi ;)
[20:57] <holstein> but i *did* get it working
[20:57] <IdanSuper> okk..
[20:57] <IdanSuper> thank you very much!
[20:57] <IdanSuper> you are genius!
[20:58] <holstein> hehe
[20:58] <holstein> we'll see
[20:58] <holstein> IdanSuper: nah
[20:58] <holstein> they are different
[20:59] <IdanSuper> ?
[20:59] <holstein> IdanSuper:  the chipsets
[20:59] <IdanSuper> what are different?
[20:59] <IdanSuper> Yeah I know..
[20:59] <holstein> lemme look around a sec
[20:59] <holstein> IdanSuper: what works for me, wont work for you likely
[20:59] <IdanSuper> But there is a tuturial how to enable it on acx100 project
[21:01] <holstein> IdanSuper: here is what i would look at
[21:01] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860203
[21:02] <IdanSuper> so I need to try this:sudo modprobe acx iwconfig
[21:02] <holstein> IdanSuper: try and work down that page and see how for you get
[21:02] <holstein> far*
[21:02] <holstein> run...
[21:03] <holstein> sudo modprobe acx
[21:03] <holstein> then the other...
[21:04] <IdanSuper> I try it..
[21:04] <IdanSuper> but I don't know if it found it or not
[21:04] <IdanSuper> I'll send you on ubuntu paste what it wrote for me..
[21:04] <holstein> IdanSuper:  you can use that pastebin to have us look
[21:05] <IdanSuper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/806676/
[21:05] <holstein> IdanSuper: thats good
[21:06] <holstein> are you sure its not just working?
[21:06] <IdanSuper> you think I need to open post on the forum
[21:06] <holstein> mabye theres a little icon in the panel
[21:06] <IdanSuper> of how to fix that problem?
[21:06] <holstein> you click that and see networks
[21:06] <IdanSuper> yeah right..
[21:07] <IdanSuper> right now I'm connected through cable..
[21:07] <IdanSuper> so It show me wired connected
[21:07] <holstein> IdanSuper: what do you get when you run
[21:07] <holstein> sudo modprobe acx
[21:07] <IdanSuper> FATAL: Module acx not found.
[21:07] <IdanSuper> that what I got..
[21:08] <IdanSuper> may I open post on the forum?
[21:10] <holstein> IdanSuper: you can post where you like
[21:10] <IdanSuper> you think that what I need to do?
[21:10] <holstein> IdanSuper: you can
[21:10] <holstein> if you wait, i'll have a suggestion for you
[21:10] <IdanSuper> ok
[21:10] <IdanSuper> I will wait..
[21:10] <IdanSuper> what is your suggestion please?
[21:11] <holstein> IdanSuper:  you can also use ndiswrapper
[21:11] <holstein> theres a GUI for i
[21:11] <holstein> it*
[21:11] <IdanSuper> how?
[21:12] <holstein> you get the windows driver and use ndisgtk to point to it
[21:12] <IdanSuper> And I read some about it..
[21:12] <holstein> you install ndisgtk
[21:12] <holstein> its "windows wireless drivers" in the menu
[21:12] <IdanSuper> But acx project has native program for it.. and Ndiwrapper isn't
[21:12] <IdanSuper> but I will try It..
[21:12] <IdanSuper> How to install it?
[21:13] <holstein> IdanSuper: thats on the site
[21:13] <holstein> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/acx100/index.php?title=ACX
[21:13] <holstein> if thats looks complicated, thats why i suggested ndis
[21:14] <IdanSuper> It looks complicated because its from 2005
[21:14] <IdanSuper> so it's not updated
[21:14] <IdanSuper> so I will try ndiswrapper
[21:15] <holstein> if it was in the kernel, it would be working
[21:15] <holstein> the process will be similar, if not the same
[21:15] <IdanSuper> what?
[21:15] <IdanSuper> the acx project?
[21:16] <holstein> yup
[21:18] <IdanSuper> ok so can you help me on how to run the firmware?
[21:18] <holstein> IdanSuper: sure
[21:18] <holstein> where are you?
[21:18] <holstein> whats the readme file say?
[21:18] <holstein> what have you tried so far?
[21:19] <IdanSuper> For ACX100 things get a little tricky. There is one master firmware image, but 2 separate radio firmware images (note: for some cards they must be omitted so the driver loads correctly). Your best bet is to go to this page(down, archived page) to find the firmware images you need.
[21:19] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[21:19] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha kosaidpo
[21:19] <holstein> IdanSuper: so you did that? you get the firmware you need?
[21:20] <IdanSuper> no
[21:20] <IdanSuper> the links for the firmware
[21:20] <IdanSuper> aren't work anymore..
[21:20] <IdanSuper> try them too..
[21:20] <kosaidpo> i made a file in .config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart and out in it some command but they dont run when i booot any idea why ??
[21:21] <holstein> IdanSuper: might be taken down... lemme look
[21:22] <holstein> these are working for me
[21:22] <holstein> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/acx100/index.php?title=Firmware
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, I'm not getting your drift kosaidpo
[21:23] <IdanSuper> yeah I know
[21:23] <IdanSuper> but the links to download them aren't
[21:23] <IdanSuper> and I think I found a firmware for my device nevermind..
[21:23] <holstein> IdanSuper: which do you want?
[21:23] <IdanSuper> So waht is Lubuntu?
[21:23] <IdanSuper> Ubuntu?
[21:23] <holstein> i can put them is dropbox
[21:24] <IdanSuper> Debian?
[21:24] <IdanSuper> Fedora?
[21:24] <holstein> ubuntu with LXDE and some other tweaks
[21:24] <IdanSuper> susa
[21:24] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif:  i created a file in .config/lxsession/Lubuntu named autostart and put in it some command but they dont start while start up
[21:24] <IdanSuper> so It's mean Ubuntu on the list of where to put it"?
[21:25] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: am i clear now and thanks
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; could this be part of your solution? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop
[21:26] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: i dont wanna make desktop files thou
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; I think everything in ~/.config/autostart/ get's autostarted?
[21:27] <kosaidpo> yesh MrChrisDruif
[21:27] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: but tther desktop files while me iwanna only run an alias of a command
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> It'll add your script to Desktop Session Settings if I'm right
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> It's not just for .desktop's afaik
[21:31] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: well so under that folder (autostart) what shud i do ??
[21:32] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; 'mv ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart ~/.config/autostart/autostart'
[21:32] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: then add my commande ?? cus me i created and autostart file under .config/lxsession/Lubuntu but didnt work
[21:33] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; you already made your script right?
[21:33] <kosaidpo> yeh
[21:34] <MrChrisDruif> Just move that script to the proper folder (~/.config/autostart/) and it should pop-up in Desktop Session Settings
[21:34] <MrChrisDruif> Menu -> Preferences -> Desktop Session Settings
[21:34] <IdanSuper> how do I install .bz2 format?
[21:36] <kosaidpo> IdanSuper: do you want to extract a file with that format ? if so do tar xvjf
[21:37] <kosaidpo> tar xjvf filename IdanSuper
[21:37] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: thanks
[21:37] <IdanSuper> kosaidpo do you know how to setup wireless adapter named D-link DWL-650+ on lubuntu?
[21:41] <IdanSuper> orr how I run ndiswrapper GUI version? and not the command one?
[21:41] <holstein> IdanSuper: ndisgtk
[21:41] <holstein> gksudo ndisgtk
[21:42] <IdanSuper> okk!! thank you!
[21:42] <IdanSuper> it's not do anything
[21:42] <IdanSuper> I'm clicked enter And it's write my computer name back..
[21:44] <holstein> IdanSuper: not sure what you are saying
[21:44] <holstein> you navigate to the windows driver in the GUI there
[21:44] <IdanSuper> after I write gksudo ndisgtk
[21:45] <holstein> IdanSuper: you need to give your user password?
[21:45] <holstein> not sure what you are looking at
[21:45] <IdanSuper> it's wrote me back that:liron@liron laptop:~$
[21:45] <IdanSuper> I did it
[21:45] <holstein> gksudo means run the graphical application with root privleges
[21:45] <IdanSuper> and After that It's doesn't did anything
[21:45] <IdanSuper> Oh...... how to download Ndiswrapper?
[21:46] <holstein> IdanSuper: mabye you have the password wrong
[21:46] <IdanSuper> and Install it?
[21:46] <IdanSuper> My password right
[21:46] <holstein> maybe you didnt install dnisgtk
[21:46] <IdanSuper> but I haven't installed it
[21:46] <holstein> ndisgkt*
[21:46] <holstein> IdanSuper: in a terminal
[21:46] <IdanSuper> yes....... So HOw to install it'
[21:46] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[21:46] <IdanSuper> ok..
[21:46] <holstein> hit enter
[21:46] <holstein> wait...
[21:46] <holstein> then sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[21:46] <holstein> answer yes or whatever and hit enter
[21:47] <holstein> then
[21:47] <holstein> gksudo ndisgtk
[21:47] <IdanSuper> y
[21:47] <holstein> enter password... wait...
[21:47] <holstein> navigate to the windows driver in the GUI
[21:47] <holstein> try wireless...
[21:47] <holstein> report errors
[21:47] <IdanSuper> If my windows driver is ended with .exe it still work?
[21:48] <holstein> IdanSuper: nope
[21:48] <holstein> you'll want an .ini
[21:48] <IdanSuper> so what I can to do?
[21:48] <holstein> IdanSuper: whatever you want
[21:48] <holstein> you can run it in windows and find the drivers
[21:48] <MrChrisDruif> I guess it worked for kosaidpo?
[21:48] <holstein> you can run the .exe in wine and extract the drivers
[21:49] <holstein> you can try right-clicking on the .exe and extracting it
[21:49] <holstein> you can look for a windows driver that is not an .exe
[21:49] <holstein> you can try the other methods that are more native
[21:51] <IdanSuper> sorry for the ask but what is wine?
[21:52] <holstein> IdanSuper: i would go to a used computer shop and take that comp with you
[21:52] <holstein> take the wifi card... ask if you can trade it ofr another one
[21:52] <holstein> plug them in while you are there
[21:52] <holstein> there will be plently that will "just work"
[21:52] <IdanSuper> ohhhhhhhh
[21:52] <holstein> even if you spend a few buck in the trade, id say you come out ahead
[21:52] <holstein> bucks*
[21:52] <IdanSuper> it's so so complicated.....
[21:52] <holstein> yup
[21:53] <holstein> its not trivial
[21:53] <holstein> at the end of today, and maybe tomorrow, you *might* have wifi
[21:53] <holstein> not being in front of it, its challening for me to trouble shoot it
[21:58] <IdanSuper> airplus.inf is ok?
[21:59] <holstein> IdanSuper: i would like to say you cant hurt anything by trying it ;)
[22:00] <holstein> go for it though.. in this case, you should be able to try several different driver files easily
[22:32] <wxl> is there an icon for lxfind? i'm sure there is, but does anyone know it?
[22:37] <MrChrisDruif> wxl; is there already a icon? I thought it is a new program?
[22:37] <wxl> MrChrisDruif: i dunno, sort of assumed there was
[22:38] <wxl> chances are we already see your query, SilverLion so go for it
[22:41] <MrChrisDruif> wxl; I think you could use catfish's icon for now?
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> SilverLion; shoot, what was your trouble?
[22:42] <SilverLion> evening folks time for some stupid questions
[22:42] <SilverLion> 1. i need to get adobe flash player working for chrome
[22:42] <SilverLion> or seamonkey
[22:44] <MrChrisDruif> adobe.com and download the .deb?
[22:44] <MrChrisDruif> !flash
[22:45] <SilverLion> MrChrisDruif: already tryd and it failed !
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> You didn't say that
[22:45] <SilverLion> didnt work just died with no error#
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> ;-)
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> Was the browser running while installing?
[22:45] <SilverLion> hey you should know me that good by now that you know i dont ask before i check everything i know ^
[22:45] <SilverLion> negative
[22:46] <MrChrisDruif> Just making sure, I also make dumb mistakes from time to time
[22:46] <SilverLion> well then you just dont know me ^
[22:47] <MrChrisDruif> <_<"
[22:49] <wxl> duh yeah catfish icon thx MrChrisDruif
[22:49] <MrChrisDruif> You're welcome wxl ^_^
[22:57] <SilverLion> MrChrisDruif: bugreport: seamonkey just crashed without any reason
[22:58] <MrChrisDruif> That's not nice
[23:01] <wxl> SilverLion: hate to say it, but "bugreport:" on IRC is not an approved way of making bug reports.
[23:02] <SilverLion> MrChrisDruif: does know how to understand this, right?=
[23:02] <MrChrisDruif> wxl; SilverLion is partly an android, he uses awkward terminology from time to time
[23:02] <wxl> heh
[23:03] <SilverLion> MrChrisDruif: genious minds are alowed to do that from time to time, arent they?
[23:03] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, just like androids. You are the latter ^_^
[23:04] <SilverLion> yeah just make your fun of me
[23:04] <SilverLion> i gotta go hit the pillows now
[23:04] <wxl> uh oh

[23:05] <SilverLion> been a rough day at the police station
[23:05] <SilverLion> wxl that is no issue of anger, that is pure frustration :D
[23:07] <SilverLion> gn8t
[23:38] <wxl> i've used it like once
[23:39] <MrChrisDruif> Used what once?
[23:39] <wxl> gdebi


[00:52] <jY> i have to start a ruby script via rvm.. and it uses chdir to get into the correct directory.. but it runs as root
[00:52] <jY> how can i run it as another user.. but still honor the chdir?
[12:48] <Ush4O> hi, can anyone give me an example how to bring up an wlan interface (ifconfig, iwconfig, wpa_supplicant) using upstart?
[13:25] <stsmith3> i have a service that calling reload on does the wrong thing. how can i go about customizing the reload action?
[13:26] <stsmith3> been trying to google but can't figure out how to ask the question
[13:26] <stsmith3> found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/94873
[13:26] <stsmith3> but cant find any docs on custom actions
[13:38] <wraiden> "initctl reload service" as far a i know is currently only using pid of a running service and sends a SIGHUP to it...
[13:39] <wraiden> there are plans to allow a reload customization...
[13:53] <jhunt> wraiden, stsmith3: yes, we're considering that feature.
[13:54] <stsmith3> ok. unfortunately the service im working with does the wrong thing for SIGHUP. the master exits and leaves a bunch of children around.
[13:55] <stsmith3> so a way to customize would really help in this case


[14:47] <greyback> anpok_: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/tests-use-stack-instead-of-heap/+merge/298122 based on your miral comment
[14:47] <greyback> anpok_: I didn't follow your unique_ptr statements though, where were you referring to?
[14:53] <anpok_> in one of the test models: ScreensModel .. hmm you do create QApplication and "screensModel"-something? .. I suspect those could just be unique_ptr<..>s and make_unique instead of new ..


[00:00] <pleia2> hazxubxmir: if you open a terminal and run: ps ax | grep system-comp
[00:00] <pleia2> if more than just the grep command returns, it's proably running
[00:00] <hazxubxmir> yes I did that in the beggining
[00:00] <pleia2> should have several lines of stuff show up if it's running
[00:01] <hazxubxmir> oh ok run that again?
[00:01] <pleia2> if you don't remember what it said, yeah :)
[00:01] <Unit193> Log file will show 3 times, grep once.
[00:01] <hazxubxmir> ok thanks will check brb
[00:01] <pleia2> it's only looking at your process list and pulling some things out
[00:01] <pleia2> not actually doing anything to your system
[00:05] <hazxubxmir> ok, it appears I'm only getting 2 log files and 1 grep
[00:07] <Unit193> On the Mir page, you can also see a screenshot of what you should get, if you want to add | pastebinit  and give thelink here, we can tell you for sure, but sounds as if you're using xorg.
[00:07] <hazxubxmir> ok mir page is where
[00:09] <hazxubxmir> don't matter I found that page
[00:10] <hazxubxmir> so now how do I get xmir to work
[00:11] <Unit193> Alright.  1.  You aren't running this in a VM, right?  2. What's the output of the log window?
[00:12] <hazxubxmir> hold up I have to do it again
[00:12] <knome> Unit193, maybe the mir page should say that in cat sized letters... :)
[00:13] <hazxubxmir>  945 ?        S      0:00 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor.sleep --enable-input=false --from-dm-fd 7 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
[00:13] <hazxubxmir>   955 ?        Sl     1:09 /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor --enable-input=false --from-dm-fd 7 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
[00:13] <hazxubxmir> 23467 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto system-comp
[00:13] <Unit193> I put it in bold.
[00:13] <Unit193> hazxubxmir: You're running XMir.
[00:15] <hazxubxmir> oh goodie, thank mate, only reason I wanted to check, that any comments I do make wanted to be sure that is was xmir working
[00:20] <hazxubxmir> 1 more question does that command have to entered each time when booting in
[00:26] <Unit193> hazxubxmir: Not at all, all it's doing is looking at the list of running applications, a task manager.
[00:27] <hazxubxmir> ok mate, many thanks for your help
[00:28] <Unit193> Sure, have a good one.
[00:28] <hazxubxmir> alwasy and u too
[00:28] <hazxubxmir> oops always
[00:39] <slooksterpsv> sorry I haven't been on much my system keeps just shutting off, not sure if its a heat issue or kernel panic
[00:45] <Unit193> Well that's not good.
[03:20] <Unit193> Do they not get what's written on the can?
[03:30] <skellat> Unit193: Hunh?
[04:34] <xubuntu-mir647> hi all... connected just to say: xmir + xubuntu is amazing!!!
[04:36] <xubuntu-mir647> if I install xubuntu + xmir, can I update my system without losing xmir?
[04:37] <holstein> !13.10
[04:37] <holstein> xubuntu-mir647: is that what you are talking about? from 13.10?
[04:37] <xubuntu-mir647> yes... posting from xubuntu iso live cd + xmir
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> I loved xmir...
[04:38] <OvenWerks> I think xmir packaging uses replaces xorg
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> want to keep it on my pc
[04:38] <OvenWerks> so upgrade should work.
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> nice... thanks!
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> will try to install now.
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> tks
[04:42] <OvenWerks> didn't wait around long enough for the "this is alpha sw" disclaimer ;)
[04:52] <Unit193> Wonder why he thought it was amazing.
[04:54] <OvenWerks> maybe he tried it with unity first
[05:27] <hazxubxmir> don't know if anyone else has noticed but scrolling and typing is at times very slow,
[05:51] <Unit193> Yep, known bug.
[07:36] <cub> Good morning (at least it's morning here), I've been trying to run the Xmir tests on http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/
[07:37] <cub> It seems I'm not allowed to log on to the etherpad. When sharing through the mailing list, are the screenshots really everything you need? No HW specs or anything?
[07:44] <Noskcaj> cub, hardware helps, but most of the current bugs are hardware independent
[07:44] <Pwnna> are there discussions about acutally doing mir as default?
[07:45] <Pwnna> imo we shouldn't include xmir until at least 14.04
[07:45] <Pwnna> uh. i mean 14.10
[07:45] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, yep, the final meeting on it is at the end of the month
[07:48] <Pwnna> Noskcaj: can anyone give feedback/opinions?
[07:48] <cub> Is it worth the effort to set up the ether pad?
[07:48] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, everyone can
[07:48] <Pwnna> use mozilla's etherpad
[07:49] <Pwnna> Noskcaj: where?
[07:49] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, mailing list and here.
[07:49] <Pwnna> okay.
[07:49] <Noskcaj> i have to go, bye
[07:49] <Pwnna> i don't see a dedicated discussion thread
[07:49] <Pwnna> so i wasn't sure
[07:50] <cub> Pwnna, I meant the Etherpad as instructed on the Xubuntu Xmir page.
[07:51] <Pwnna> where's that page?
[07:51] <cub> http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/
[07:52] <cub> "If you would like to share your results with the team, please do so at Xubuntu etherpad, or on the mailing list."
[07:52] <cub> But the Etherpad requires authorization
[07:52] <Pwnna> oh. i see
[07:52] <Pwnna> ....
[07:52] <Pwnna> why oh why.
[07:52] <Pwnna> don't we have a wiki
[07:52] <cub> and I figured if I was going to run several tests it might be easier to set it up.
[07:53] <Pwnna> setup an etherpad instance?
[08:41] <knome> Pwnna, if you need access to the etherpad, you can get that by having a launchpad account
[08:42] <knome> cub, ^
[08:42] <knome> Pwnna, cub: then just join the ubuntu-etherpad team (and once you're approved to that team, you can access the ubuntu pad)
[08:42] <Pwnna> there are no public etherpads?
[08:43] <knome> Pwnna, sure there are.
[09:24] <cub> knome, thanks for the pointers. I have updated my tests in etherpad.
[09:24] <knome> cub, np, thank you
[10:54] <PsynoKhi0> howdy, is the XMir test ISO's performance expected to be painfully slow at this stage?
[18:16] <tr33m4n> anyone else unable to log into the Xubuntu etherpad?
[18:17] <pleia2> tr33m4n: you need to be in the etherpad group, let me know your launchpad name and I can ad dyou
[18:17] <tr33m4n> ah, think it's tr33m4n
[18:17] <drc> nope, fine for me
[18:17] <pleia2><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[18:17] <tr33m4n> yes
[18:18] <pleia2> tr33m4n: ok, added you
[18:18] <tr33m4n> thanks :)
[18:18] <pleia2> should be able to log in now
[18:18] <tr33m4n> yep all fine, thanks
[18:59] <Unit193> http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1308067-SO-XUBUNTUXM33
[19:01] <pleia2> nice
[19:08] <lderan> so on the tests it does beat normal xubuntu it is a very small win mmm
[19:17] <Unit193> I think you read it backwards.
[19:21] <lderan> well it only beats normal xubuntu on 2 tests i think
[19:21] <lderan> 4*
[19:34] <Unit193> Xmir is generally slower, though.
[19:34] <lderan> yup
[19:35] <Unit193> Tearing seems to win, but you can fix that in xorg.conf
[19:35] <lderan> 2 of those 4 it only beats normal xubuntu by 0.003%
[19:36] <drc> yeah, but it's a dry 0.003%.
[19:52] <Unit193> Best guess on the number of total downloads, 1769.
[19:53] <pleia2> wow :)
[19:54] <Unit193> And my guess was going for ~50...
[20:01] <Unit193> Someone said I should make a LindsayLohanOS, but I don't want to! :(
[20:01] <drc> The DEA would probably shut you down.
[20:02] <pleia2> people love telling me what I should do with my time
[20:02] <Unit193> drc: Aha!
[20:03] <drc> OK,lets say 1700 DL's...how many reported tests so far?
[20:03] <Unit193> Mhmm... Yeah, not that many.
[20:04] <drc> pleia2: it's for you own good, you know :)
[20:09] <lderan> pleia2, has to be done :P
[20:16] <drc> Unit193: I wonder if  there would have been more test results if one didn't have to have an account to report said results??
[20:18] <Unit193> I'd assume so, maybe a little more spam, but who knows.  I would have been good using mozpad or piratepad.  I just don't dislike Ubuntu etherpad like I do the pastebin. :P
[20:35] <lderan> :P
[23:02] <pleia2> skellat: nice email to the list
[23:02] <skellat> pleia2: Thanks
[23:53] <lucas> hi all... I need some help...
[23:53] <lucas> I installed xubuntu + mir last night...
[23:53] <lucas> while on live cd, all worked fine...
[23:54] <lucas> but after the installation, I'm having issues with "colored" blocks on the screen...
[23:55] <lucas> and I dont know where to start the debugging...
[23:55] <lucas> does someone esperienced something like that?
[23:55] <pleia2> lucas: at this point it's best to just file bug reports
[23:55] <pleia2> it's under heavy active development so we haven't really been doing much debugging, mostly they are just bugs :)
[23:57] <lucas> tks for the answer...
[23:57] <pleia2> lucas: you can also try #ubuntu-mir
[23:57] <pleia2> that's where the mir devs hang out, and I'm sure they can always use interested debuggers
[23:58] <lucas> I will try looking the syslog, and ati driver...
[23:58] <pleia2> (though it is a bit late in the day for them)
[23:58] <lucas> I think my issue is driver related...
[23:58] <lucas> thanks anyway.