[01:05] <balloons> plars, on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1445/info that was one that we were supposed to get clarified I think
[01:05] <balloons> apparently it never happened
[01:08] <plars> balloons: maybe it should just come out?
[01:32] <balloons> plars, yea, let me kill it
[01:33] <balloons> plars, should be gone now :-)
[01:34] <plars> balloons: thanks
[01:34] <balloons> if there's any more that are really marginal on server, I'm ok with gutting them
[01:34] <balloons> especially "run-once"
[01:34] <phillw> balloons: and there was me thinking out setting up an iSCSI instance on my server :(
[01:35] <phillw> :D :D :D
[01:36] <balloons> hehe
[01:36] <balloons> you can.. help us get a proper testcase :-)
[01:38] <phillw> I'll look into what needs doing for it. i only learned how to connect to an iSCSI system, not create one :D
[01:39] <phillw> balloons: but, lubuntu looks good to go, ppc testing is needed on the new 'CD' sized images and for the ac100 (arm) device. I'll be able to dive in and help out on any teams who need testing done once I crawl out of my crypt :)
[01:42] <phillw> balloons: by the way, with unetbootin and startup disk creator both having problems, have you any ideas other then using dd to use a usb device?
[01:42] <balloons> phillw, yes
[01:43] <phillw> please do share, as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/915626 is a show stopper to include in our notes.
[01:43] <Noskcaj> Kylin needs some testing, is it releasing for 13.04?
[01:43] <phillw> Noskcaj: I cannot read chinese!
[01:44] <Noskcaj> phillw, true. i was saying that more generally
[01:44] <Noskcaj> edubuntu and kubuntu seem to be where testing is needed.
[01:44] <phillw> Noskcaj: the guys from kylin are pretty dedicated.
[01:44] <Noskcaj> everything else just needs bugfixes
[01:45] <phillw> it has been a pleasure to get to know them, as it has for the ubuntu-gnome team
[01:46] <phillw> Noskcaj: well, as I sign off, go do some kubuntu and edubuntu testing :D
[01:46] <phillw> g'nite
[01:47] <Noskcaj> good night
[01:51] <balloons> phillw, sorry phone call interruption :-)
[01:51] <balloons> phillw, there are other tools
[01:51] <balloons> i'm a little hazy atm.. really tired
[01:56] <balloons> however, https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
[01:57] <balloons> you can run on ubuntu as well..
[01:57] <balloons> do you need a howto?
[01:59] <balloons> basically download and run
[01:59] <balloons> wget https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liveusb-creator/liveusb-creator-3.11.7.tar.bz2
[01:59] <balloons> sudo apt-get install python-parted isomd5sum python-pyisomd5sum python-urlgrabber extlinux python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus tar
[01:59] <balloons> extract tarball and run
[02:00] <balloons> liveusb-creator
[02:01] <balloons> phillw, ^^
[02:06] <balloons> in addition there is http://sourceforge.net/projects/multibootusb/ and https://launchpad.net/live-usb-install (both of which I've never used)
[05:35] <pitti> Good morning
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[07:28] <Noskcaj> dholbach, morning. all that still needs doing for raring is testing and bug 1172059
[07:29] <dholbach> hum
[07:29] <dholbach> I'm not sure I can help with that
[07:58] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: ping.
[07:59] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, pong
[07:59] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: I saw some logs of yesterday's #xubuntu-devel
[08:00] <Noskcaj> ok
[08:00] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Don't be said of you not appointed as release manager.
[08:00] <smartboyhw> s/said/ sad
[08:01] <Noskcaj> it was more something that phill said i should ask for.
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: The problem is that he told you to "ask"
[08:02] <smartboyhw> Which is sort of impolite:P
[08:03] <Noskcaj> yeah
[12:47] <balloons> noskcaj, thanks for getting that bug reported
[13:11] <smartboyhw> Hey balloons:)
[14:09] <smartboyhw> Respin again testers, there is a fix of ubiquity (Kubuntu one) that needs to respin the world.
[14:09] <xnox> smartboyhw: no.
[14:09] <xnox> smartboyhw: don't spread miss information.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> xnox: Tell me one sec earlier:P
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Sorry folks
[14:10] <balloons> :-p
[14:10] <xnox> smartboyhw: please read scrollbacks. there are no respins until packages are accepted & published. Which has not happened with ubiquity yet.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> xnox: Sorru
[14:10] <xnox> smartboyhw: thus even kubuntu respin is _likely_ but not confirmed.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> balloons: how are ya?
[14:11] <balloons> xnox, thanks for fixing btw :-)
[14:11] <balloons> smartboyhw, just fine, yourself?
[14:11] <smartboyhw> balloons: We are soon going to have Open Week again.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> Get a person to do a session! (you maybe)
[14:12] <balloons> xnox, so you think ubiquity should be able to read encrypted partitions (swap or otherwise) during an install?
[14:12] <xnox> balloons: huh. =) that's not the bugs fixed for kubuntu-ubiquity respin.
[14:13] <balloons> lol, no it's not.. It's this one plars and I discussed yesterday: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1172002
[14:13] <xnox> balloons: there are more details, I've explained it twice already =) once in #-installer and once in #-release.
[14:13] <balloons> k, I'll read there
[14:14] <xnox> balloons: bug 1172002 relates to a higher priority bug 1066480 which depends on bug 291494
[14:14] <xnox> thus all should be implement for it to be useful.
[14:14] <xnox> there is no harm apart from not having any swap......
[14:15] <balloons> I just wanted to confirm that it is possible.. I assumed it was not.. because at the moment ubiquity just lists the partitions as unknown and moves on
[14:16] <balloons> so for instance, I can't upgrade from ubiquity if I use an encrypted partition
[14:16] <balloons> I didn't think it was a bug :-)
[14:17] <xnox> balloons: it should allow you to upgrade, there will be extra popup "no swap" which one will have to dismiss.
[14:18] <xnox> ugly but not critical, as in it should succeed and not loose data.
[14:19] <balloons> xnox, this bug describes what happens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066480. If simply says, you have no OS, what do you want to do.. Yes, if you just use ecryptfs for an encrypted home it works as Paul described.. You get everything as normal, it just doesn't see or use the swap partition
[14:20] <balloons> anyways, thanks.. I didn't think it was a "bug"
[14:20] <smartboyhw> balloons: Open Week?
[14:20] <balloons> smartboyhw, open week eh.. you want to present?
[14:21] <xnox> balloons: yes, I know. there are tree bugs =) plar's new but has ugly workarounds. the 1066480 was release noted and can be worked around via live system login and mount. Fixing them properly requires fixing 291494 (note how small the number is)
[14:21] <smartboyhw> balloons: I would love to but no it's too close to exams
[14:21] <xnox> in general, I was not going to support any resize/reuse/replace/dual-boot setups with LVM&CRYPT in ubiquity. My concept was to only support fresh new wipe-all install with those.
[14:22] <balloons> yes.. I assumed mounting them via the live session then invoking the installer will always work :-)
[14:28] <smartboyhw> balloons: I suggest you do it yourself this time.
[14:29] <balloons> I don't remember if we had an open week session last time or not
[14:29] <smartboyhw> phillw might be busy with Lubuntu. Noskcaj nay represent
[14:29] <smartboyhw> Xuhuntu
[14:29] <smartboyhw> balloons: Last time it was me:P
[14:29] <smartboyhw> You are on leave I think that time
[14:30] <balloons> ahh
[14:31] <smartboyhw> balloons: You + SergioMeneses will be a good pair. Or adding Letozaf
[14:31] <balloons> all good options
[14:35] <smartboyhw> balloons: Try finding them and see what they wanna do.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> This year the schedule was much packed with only two days.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: ^ what's the reason?
[14:37] <JoseeAntonioR> smartboyhw: beacause I won't be able to host the third day on-air
[14:37] <JoseeAntonioR> if we have enough instructors I can make it 3-day, but until now it's set at 2 days
[14:37] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: OK.
[14:42] <smartboyhw> balloons: And I forgotten chilicuil for the list:P
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses, care to do an Open Week QA session with balloons?
[15:00] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, when is the openweek?
[15:00] <SergioMeneses> btw, hi everybody
[15:00] <balloons> howdy
[15:01] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: 22-23 May I think
[15:03] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[15:04] <SergioMeneses> balloons, what time do you have proposed?
[15:04] <balloons> SergioMeneses, this is all smartboyhw :-) I don't even know the dates
[15:05] <balloons> lol
[15:05] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: Yep.
[15:05] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:05] <balloons> I take things one day at a time during release wekk
[15:05] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:05] <SergioMeneses> balloons, jajaja
[15:06] <SergioMeneses> I dont know what I'm going to talk about but count with me
[15:46] <plars> balloons: are we sure that http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1498/info is valid for server?
[15:47] <balloons> plars, ahh the ubiquity upgrade
[15:47] <balloons> for server hmm.. I can't say I've ever tried to upgrade server that way ;-) It's a desktop install disc!
[15:48] <balloons> it's certainly not intended
[15:49] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, do any of you would like to do an ubuntu quality team session for openweek? :)
[15:50] <JoseeAntonioR> maybe balloons?
[15:50] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, lol.. smartboyhw has been going on about it
[15:50] <plars> balloons: ok, just confirmed on u-installer, that test should not be there
[15:50] <balloons> I have no comment till raring is out ;-) That's my official statement
[15:50] <balloons> lol
[15:50] <balloons> plars, is it in server somewhere?
[15:51] <plars> balloons: yes, server upgrade test (image) for i386 and amd64
[15:51] <balloons> ohh
[15:51] <balloons> gotcha, yea, no no
[15:51]  * balloons was confused why you asked abou tit
[15:52] <balloons> LOL -- i looked at the linked testsuites for ubuntu server upgrade
[15:52] <balloons> "Desktop Upgrade" testsuite
[15:52]  * balloons facepalms
[15:53] <plars> yeah, that too... I thought it might almost be valid though, just written with a desktop slant vs. d-i specifics, but no
[16:02] <balloons> plars, I'll swap in a server testsuite.. just ignore that for now
[16:08] <plars> balloons: well, there's not an equivalent for server on image upgrade
[16:08] <balloons> basically the server upgrade is just one test
[16:08] <balloons> using do-release-upgrade
[16:08] <balloons> nothing from an image
[16:10] <plars> right
[16:31] <ypwong> balloons, I have proposed a merge request to fix the CJK test case
[16:31] <balloons> ypwong, awesome thank you, I'll have a look
[16:31] <ypwong> balloons, yw :)
[16:52] <balloons> ypwong, did you manage to correct all the languages?
[16:52] <ypwong> balloons, for those already existed in the last version, i updated for all CJK
[16:52] <balloons> I see.. thank you very much for that!
[16:52] <balloons> that's really helpful
[16:53] <ypwong> balloons, np, better to fix it once and for all :)
[16:53] <ypwong> but will take more time to add new strings so I didn't do that
[16:53] <balloons> sure :-) Getting what we have correct is the priority
[16:54] <balloons> so happy to have you and the kylin team
[17:08] <Letozaf_> Hi guys, Yesterday I upgraded my PC from 12.10 to Raring for testing, this is what I get after reboot, the username, password an PC-name fields have a white background: https://plus.google.com/photos/110772571847074999454/albums/5870460612127404401?authkey=CP6RrKP__8rILw
[17:16] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I changed the bug status to FixReleased - bug 1157436 because I saw you merged it
[17:17] <balloons> excellent. I try and do that usually, but I miss it sometimes :-)
[17:18] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, that is rare... I updated my system without errors
[17:33] <balloons> So, anyone who is curious and/or able/willing, etc.. The server team needs some results from us :-)
[17:54] <SergioMeneses> balloons, what kind of results?
[17:57]  * SergioMeneses read the email
[17:57] <balloons> SergioMeneses, test results of course ;-) Download the iso and try installing it.. the server isos have some interesting installations
[17:58] <balloons> there are over 20 testcases in here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42960/testcases
[18:00] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I was checking that :)
[18:02] <chotawatchee> balloons, when is the designated time cut off for raring testing?
[18:03] <balloons> when the images are marked as ready :-)
[18:03] <balloons> until then, we test :-) In general it'll be sometime tomorrow
[18:03] <balloons> you'll see the images struckout on the tracker
[18:05] <SergioMeneses> balloons, but ubuntu-server testing will be until tomorrow?
[18:05] <balloons> yes, it will be the same
[18:07] <SergioMeneses> mmm....
[18:09] <chotawatchee> balloons, the gnome icons weren't displaying properly in xubuntu, but ubuntu studio there was quite few icons not displaying properly do i need to file bug for each icon set?
[18:10] <balloons> chotawatchee, if you believe it's the same package, you could file one bug and mark both as being affected
[18:10] <balloons> do you know how to do that?
[18:12] <chotawatchee> balloons, this would all be xfce4 settings manager
[18:12] <balloons> gotcha, then yes I would file one bug, mark as affects both
[18:12] <balloons> we can help mark sure it's marked properly if needed :-)
[18:13] <chotawatchee> balloons,  ok how do i mark it properly?
[18:15] <balloons> see the + affects button?
[18:16] <balloons> add the xubuntu and ubuntu studio project there
[18:16] <balloons> err.. it's also affects distribution :-)
[18:16] <balloons> sorry
[18:19] <SergioMeneses> ok guys I have to go out!
[18:19] <SergioMeneses> see you later
[18:19] <balloons> SergioMeneses, see you!
[18:58] <jbicha> hi, has anyone here tested "Install Alongside" with an existing Ubuntu install?
[18:59] <balloons> jbicha, yes.. like install raring alongside precise?
[18:59] <jbicha> I'm thinking about bug 1164592 and wondering whether we should disable the button if it doesn't work and there isn't time for it to be fixed
[18:59] <jbicha> balloons: yes, my testing was with installing Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 alongside Ubuntu GNOME 13.04
[19:01] <jbicha> it seems odd for a bug to only affect our flavor but I haven't tested the others
[19:05] <balloons> jbicha, well let's see what happens to my raring install
[19:05] <balloons> since that was your issue
[19:06] <jbicha> thanks
[19:07] <balloons> so you don't get past the resize screen?
[19:07] <balloons> or?
[19:07] <camelinahat> balloons, On the resize screen it locks up. (can't move the slider, can't change the drop down for the drive, etc).
[19:08] <balloons> gotcha.. yea, worked fine for me
[19:08] <balloons> I'm past that point atm
[19:08] <balloons> so.. a few things.. is this on bare metal or vm?
[19:08] <camelinahat> vm
[19:08] <jbicha> here it was on bare metal
[19:09] <jbicha> ok well if it works for Ubuntu then I guess we can't just disable the button
[19:10] <balloons> yes.. I see someone from lubuntu confirmed lubuntu was fine too
[19:10] <balloons> so, let's try in a vm with ubuntu gnome
[19:10] <balloons> you have the iso handy?
[19:10] <balloons> if so, then it's a hw issue..
[19:11] <jbicha> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[19:11] <balloons> I meant do you have it downloaded? hehe.. I don't have that one synced
[19:12] <camelinahat> I had the issue myself in a vm
[19:13] <balloons> I agree it's odd that only ubuntu gnome would have the issue, but not impossible by any means
[19:14] <balloons> does your hw allow you to install alongside if you use the ubuntu image?
[19:15] <camelinahat> balloons, I was going to try that next.
[19:20] <balloons> gotcha
[19:35] <camelinahat> balloons, yeah the Ubuntu one works fantastic on the vm.
[19:35] <balloons> camelinahat, jbicha so have we done enough to confirm this is only a ubuntu gnome issue?
[19:35] <balloons> jbicha, on your hw does a ubuntu image work?
[19:39] <camelinahat> I've got to run for tonight. Thanks balloons. Good luck jbicha on tracking down the issue :S
[20:13] <phillw> balloons: are any teams desperately in need of testing amd64 or i386. I can zsync up an iso, but it does take a couple of hours.
[20:14] <balloons> see the ubuntu gnome bug aboe
[20:14] <balloons> otherwise, ubuntu server
[20:15] <phillw> yeah, I don't have an iso on my local machine for ubuntu-gnome, so it will be pretty much a full download.
[20:15] <phillw> I've asked for a ppc server tester, he's going to get some sleep and will be up early to have a look at it.
[20:19] <jbicha> phillw: I think we'll be fine for UG, I was just curious if other flavors had the bug too but it doesn't sound like they do
[20:21] <phillw> jbicha: I've not seen it any lubuntu tests. I can certainly d/l ubuntu-gnome over night and have a play tomorrow morning (UTC)
[20:22] <phillw> I do the amd64 alternate suite tests for lubuntu, and have many times done a side by side install.
[20:26] <balloons> yes erik reported lubuntu was fine also
[20:29] <phillw> it'll take approx 2 hours for me to download the ubuntu-gnome amd64. I'll either flog it to death tonight, or do it in the morning (UTC)
[20:30] <phillw> it is the install side by side of ubuntu-gnome 13.04 that shows this problem?
[20:49] <balloons> phillw, yea
[20:50] <phillw> balloons: okies, 100 minutes to go!
[21:33] <SergioMeneses> balloons, nice: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-quality-growth
[21:36] <balloons> SergioMeneses, eh?
[21:38] <SergioMeneses> balloons, almost done
[21:39] <balloons> ahh :-)
[21:41] <Noskcaj> Is there anything still needing testing other than kylin?
[21:41] <balloons> hey Noskcaj
[21:41] <Noskcaj> hello
[21:41] <balloons> ubuntu server could use love
[21:42] <Noskcaj> i wouldn't have time to download it. when do we release?
[21:42] <balloons> tomorrow sometime is the release
[21:43] <balloons> ppc server would be awesome.. I don't remember if you have ppc hw or not
[21:43] <Noskcaj> ok, so i will have time, server seems ready except for PPC
[21:43] <Noskcaj> i do, i'll try and get an iso while i'm at ANZAC day stuff
[21:43] <balloons> :-) ty Noskcaj !
[21:46] <Noskcaj> phillw, can you help make sure everyone tests ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop on PPC?
[21:49] <phillw> Noskcaj: the ppc tester who looks after ppc-server has gone to bed. As for ubuntu-ppc, we have not been highly testing that concentrated recently on kubuntu-ppc.
[21:49] <Noskcaj> understandable
[21:50] <Noskcaj> next cycle we need to make sure everyone has a PPC machine.
[21:50] <phillw> lol, yeah that would be ideal.
[21:52] <balloons> Noskcaj, ppc machines for everyone
[21:52] <balloons> lol
[21:52] <balloons> I love it
[21:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, :) I have some bugs on ARM maybe you should know about
[21:53] <Noskcaj> balloons, seriously though, you can get them for something like $30 on ebay, a computer recylcer etc.
[21:54] <balloons> I havem
[21:54] <balloons> I don't have room for more machines :-) My desk is already beyond full
[21:54] <balloons> hah!
[21:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh sure, what did we find?
[21:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, bug 1172480, bug 940334, bug 1172490
[21:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, on this testcase: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/43004/testcases/1300/results/
[21:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, maybe the ARM guys should know about them
[21:58] <balloons> hmm.. let's see what they know about
[21:59] <Noskcaj> balloons, you have room for this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-Desktop-M9971LL-B-January-2005-AS-IS-1-4-ghz-Power-Pc-g4-/190828268848?pt=Apple_Desktops&hash=item2c6e404d30
[22:00] <balloons> Noskcaj, ahh a mac mini
[22:00] <Noskcaj> please buy, in the next week or so i'll give everyone a link to a mac in there area.
[22:01] <balloons> Letozaf_, did you run the checks stephane listed in the bug?
[22:01] <balloons> Noskcaj, :-) what ppc stuff do you have?
[22:02] <Noskcaj> balloons, an ibook g4. i'm getting a different one tomorrow
[22:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, nope, but I will do it
[22:02] <balloons> Letozaf_, ok.. I'll keep looking at the rest of the bugs :-)
[22:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, just finished reporting all the bugs I bumped into
[22:02] <balloons> we'll present our consolidated findings
[22:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will go to bed now and do the tests tomorrow morning, is it too late ?
[22:03] <balloons> I remember the black bar bug!
[22:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, yep still there
[22:04] <balloons> Letozaf_, it's likely release notes at this point, so no ;-)
[22:04] <balloons> Letozaf_, late for you! have a pleasant night.
[22:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok so tomorrow I will carry out stephane's checks and write the results in the bug report
[22:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok night :D
[22:05] <balloons> buonanotte!
[22:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, buonanotte :D
[22:06] <balloons> Noskcaj, I remember the ibooks.. I've never like apple hw though (I must be one of the few it seems!)
[22:06] <balloons> what's your new one going to be?
[22:06] <Noskcaj> balloons, i hate apple, but this is a good way to get people using ubuntu. whatever CBNE has.
[22:06] <balloons> were the g4's colored?
[22:07] <Noskcaj> some
[22:07] <balloons> that was kind of interesting
[22:08] <phillw> wooh! lubuntu will be releasing the entire suite! Just been chatting with my boss! He's doing the last couple of test cases now.
[22:10] <Noskcaj> phillw, YAY
[22:49] <Noskcaj> apparently the server ppc image is oversized, i cannot test it then
[23:03] <phillw> Noskcaj: one of PPC guys has gone for sleep, he will be back up and running tomorrow AM (UTC). As you can see, I've asked the L-QA PPC testers to try server and kubuntu.
[23:04] <Noskcaj> yep, i was going to run some, but my mac is ultra low ram and CD only
[23:07] <phillw> you can always play with the lubuntu ones :)
[23:31] <SergioMeneses> balloons, Noskcaj smartboyhw phillw bug 1172422
[23:32] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: It's incomplete dudr
[23:32] <smartboyhw> dude
[23:32] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I know but take a look
[23:35] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: I did, but I thought this bug will be fixed after the new community website is done.
[23:36] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, sure!
[23:57] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, ping
[23:58] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: pong
[23:59] <SergioMeneses> pm


[11:02] <c2tarun> How can I request for a classroom session? I want to request a session on fixing FTBFS bugs. As feature freeze is close, those who are familiar with packaging can help by fixing FTBFS bugs. Thank you
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[00:03] <philipballew> hey kdub enjoying this weather?
[07:25] <kdub_> hola philipballew
[07:26] <philipballew> hello kdub
[07:26] <philipballew> or kdub_
[07:26] <kdub_> hah, ghost nick
[07:26] <kdub_> you still looking for graphics cards?
[07:26] <philipballew> kinda yeah
[07:27] <philipballew> I might just look for a desktop to sometime
[07:27] <philipballew> i have a feeling my mobo is dying
[07:27] <kdub_> i just fired up my new one
[07:27] <kdub_> my old motherboard died
[07:28] <philipballew> ahh, i feel you. it can be a pain in the butt to mess with those
[07:28] <kdub_> its going ok so far
[07:29] <philipballew> i have a 500 gig hd i still use but its pata. so I might need to get a converter or just buy a used computer
[07:29] <kdub_> i scrapped all my pata drives with this new mobo
[07:29] <philipballew> something to man down the fort for a desktop till i graduate. whats the advantage of sata?
[07:30] <philipballew> i guess just faster
[07:31] <philipballew> what kinda mobo is it kdub_
[07:31] <kdub_> sata's faster, thats about all i know
[07:31] <kdub_> asrock p67 extreme4 gen3
[07:32] <kdub_> with i7 2600k
[07:32] <kdub_> looks like a great OC board so far
[07:32] <kdub_> i don't even know what half these options do :P
[07:33] <philipballew> the i7 seems nice from people i have talked to
[07:34] <philipballew> your thinkpad has that right?
[07:35] <kdub_> i5 mobile something
[07:35] <kdub_> the i7 2600k has 8 logical cores though, happy about that :D
[07:36] <philipballew> so were you gonna go to daves ubuntu hour thing tomorow?
[07:37] <bkerensa> why do some people troll Ubuntu so hard
[07:37] <bkerensa> =o
[07:38] <philipballew> i think i will kdub_
[07:39] <kdub_> philipballew: i'm going tomorrow
[07:39] <philipballew> yeah me to. should be interesting. hillcrest is a nice area
[07:39] <kdub_> tough to drive in though
[07:40] <kdub_> is it at 6?
[07:40] <philipballew> I think. he puts his time in military rime i think. but im gonna take the bus and get there at 6
[07:41] <philipballew> easy that way
[07:41] <kdub_> alright. i can drop you back off if you don't want to take the bus back
[07:42] <philipballew> hum. that would be pretty cool sure.
[07:42] <philipballew> no worries if you cant
[07:43] <philipballew> the bus is good, except sometimes the people there are interesting
[07:43] <kdub_> eh, its only ~10m out of the way
[07:44] <philipballew> thats not bad I guess. you gonna have to come straight from work then?
[07:45] <philipballew> 6 seems like it might be to early for some?
[07:46] <philipballew> but i dont live the normal life like most
[07:46] <kdub_> yeah, i'm coming straight from work, should be ok
[07:46] <kdub_> i have an hour to make it from mira mesa to hillcrest
[07:47] <philipballew> that sounds do able
[07:48] <philipballew> is that area where most tech business are?
[07:49] <kdub_> its a bit scattered. the cool startups are trending towards the east village are downtown
[07:49] <kdub_> *area downtown
[07:50] <philipballew> i need to find one of these places for school. gotta interview a manager of something sometime. probably gonna call several.
[07:51] <philipballew> oracle wont return the call :)
[07:51] <kdub_> school project?
[07:51] <philipballew> yeah. for school
[07:51] <philipballew> good ol college
[07:54] <kdub_> hah, yeah. random projects prepare you for the real world :D
[07:55]  * philipballew enjoys his college bubble just fine
[07:55] <bkerensa> Good Night!
[07:56]  * gua pets a needle
[07:57] <philipballew> well its time to hit the hay all
[07:59] <philipballew> night kdub_
[08:06] <kdub_> night
[17:39]  * MarkDude does not normally bring news from Fedora here, but, this is a noteworthy exception. The Board just approved Beefy Miracle as a possible name for the next release.
[17:39] <MarkDude> ALL Hail the Beefy Miracle!!!
[17:40] <MarkDude> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_17
[17:52] <pleia2> they should just approve it so I don't need to keep hearing about it for every release
[17:54] <jyo> Is there actually an order to Fedora codenames?
[17:54] <jyo> Or was it that related story between adjacent names thing?
[18:20] <MarkDude> There has to be a link between old and new name
[18:20] <MarkDude> There are all sorts of rules about it. And pleia2 more likely this is turning into the joke that will never go away
[18:21] <MarkDude> Just as Bacon has alwys been on the suggested names- it does not get approved for next step for 2 reasons, bacon sofware- as well as Jono
[18:22] <locodir-user> Hi
[18:22] <locodir-user> eny one here ?!
[18:23] <pleia2> hello locodir-user
[18:23] <MarkDude> It will take a bit for the vote to happen, and in the mean time- expect to see news of it in your social media stream
[18:23] <MarkDude> Hello locodir-user
[18:23] <MarkDude> Welcome
[18:23] <locodir-user> I am from KSA and I need littel help!
[18:26] <locodir-user> How I can get ubuntu CD from this site for our  Celebration about  free software ?
[18:27] <pleia2> locodir-user: unfortunately it's the end of the cycle and we don't have any more pressed CDs left
[18:28] <kdub> DarkwingDuck: does cafe libertalia have fud?
[18:28] <MarkDude> Where are you located locodir-user ?
[18:36] <locodir-user> Iam in saudi Arabia
[18:37] <pleia2> oh, this is the california team :)
[18:37] <pleia2> you probably want to contact http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-sa
[18:37] <pleia2> Bilal Akhtar is a nice guy
[18:38] <locodir-user> thank you
[18:56] <MarkDude> odds on ubuntu's next codename
[18:59]  * MarkDude is still hoping for Penguins
[19:41] <MarkDude> Geeknic is cancelled for this weekend
[19:41]  * MarkDude is having smaller bbq at house tho
[19:42] <MarkDude> Big bbq would be too hard to do, so I am going to ask for volunteers to help with some details. I cant cancel for next month- and the location is rain or shine
[20:18] <Ttech> MarkDude, Where is it?
[20:18] <Ttech> SF?
[20:22]  * MarkDude lives in Danvile
[20:22] <MarkDude> and has air conditioning
[20:23] <jyo> Wouldn't it be awesome if we got... Pangolin for the next codename?
[20:26] <MarkDude> Well I still would prefer Penguin
[20:26] <pleia2> pangolins are teh cute
[20:26] <MarkDude> it would be acceptable tho
[20:26] <MarkDude> :D
[20:26] <pleia2> finding such a stuffed animal would be hard though...
[20:28]  * pleia2 frowns at finding the wrong kind of stuffed pangolin
[20:29] <jyo> toy pangolin gets you a bunch of plastic ones and a plush one from Alibaba that "can come up to the standards of many international safety inspection"
[20:31] <MarkDude> np, pangolin and ocelot are commonly known animals ;P
[20:33] <pleia2> yeah I found the alibaba one, it seems a bit frightening :)
[20:33] <pleia2> "the stuffing is made of lead chips, it's fine if you don't lick it!"
[20:37] <jyo> If you wouldn't lick it, I'm sure your pet wouldn't either?
[20:52] <kdub> puma
[20:52] <kdub> ^^^ my vote
[20:57] <nhaines> I prefer no cats, because I'm sick of hearing about Apple comparisons.
[21:06] <pleia2> we have been quite cat-heavy lately
[22:00] <pleia2> heading over to ITT Tech in oakland in a bit for a talk on Ubuntu for a linux class \o/
[22:05] <MarkDude> Kick some ass pleia2
[22:05] <pleia2> thanks :)
[22:05] <MarkDude> I know you will
[22:45] <nhaines> pleia2: good luck.  :)
[22:45] <nhaines> pleia2: what will you focus on?
[22:45] <pleia2> nhaines: thanks, it's just a 10-15 minute presentation on what ubuntu is and why it exists, then Q&A
[22:46] <pleia2> the class is intro to linux, and they do their work on fedora, so the professor wanted an ubuntu person to widen their exposure
[22:48] <nhaines> pleia2: oh, that's cool.  :)
[22:48] <MarkDude> Both operating systems are decent. Ubuntu hella wins on the community thing
[22:48] <MarkDude> end of talk
[22:48] <MarkDude> :D
[22:48] <MarkDude> Dont forget to include that Fedora has complete lack of jono
[22:49] <MarkDude> I mean Ubuntu wins on most accounts
[22:49] <pleia2> I don't really plan on comparing the two, I honestly don't know enough about fedora
[22:49] <MarkDude> Well if you are keeping score Ubuntu wins on community, parties, and the jono thing
[22:50] <MarkDude> Fedora has Beefy Miracle, and some crap about the Foundations and freedom, and the saying be excellent to each other
[22:51]  * MarkDude may be jonking bu tcommunity honestly is best part to include. Fedora in international community, with very little local stuff
[22:52] <MarkDude> Oh, and the fact Apt is roughly 1 million times quicker than rpm crap
[22:52] <pleia2> I'll certainly mention the community, but it's a linux class at a work-ready training school and I'm a sysadmin, so I'll be more focused on the user side and goals that ubuntu has
[22:52] <MarkDude> apt get moo would amaze a few people used to working with how quick it is
[22:53] <pleia2> I'm not recruiting community members this time, just exposing people to what Ubuntu is if they choose to use it :)
[22:54] <MarkDude> Ok, dont forget many people that dont use ubuntu still promote and are part of the community ;)
[22:55] <MarkDude> I am willing to bet just your talking about it , will get at least a few interested, you ARE that good pleia2
[22:55] <pleia2> MarkDude: oh! I passed the A's home in Phoenix while I was there :) they are near the phoenix zoo
[22:55] <MarkDude> Cool, near that dinosaur rock hill
[22:55] <pleia2> I would have taken a picture, but I was driving
[22:56]  * MarkDude wants to make it to spring training next year
[22:56] <MarkDude> last home game is Thur
[22:56] <pleia2> aww
[23:36] <nhaines> pleia2: A coworker is taking a Linux class.
[23:37] <nhaines> I spent about 90 minutes yesterday explaining the 'cp' command, unified file system, and 'mount'.