[00:19] <Myrtti> ♥
[00:20] <Seeker`> Myrtti!!!!
[00:20] <Myrtti> mmmm bed
[00:20] <Seeker`> Myrtti: was nice to meet you
[00:20] <Myrtti> feetsies hurt
[00:21] <Seeker`> I know the feeling
[00:21] <Myrtti> Seeker`: likewise :-)
[00:21] <Seeker`> I should really move from sofa to bed, but that involves moving
[00:23] <Seeker`> Myrtti: did you stay long after I left?
[00:24] <jpds> Something deal with HappyHater in #u.
[00:24] <Myrtti> Seeker`: not really, chatted a bit with popey, Daviey and Nafallo and left
[00:25] <Myrtti> dsample had an ickle chat with jono to my great surprise
[00:25] <Seeker`> fair enough
[00:25] <Seeker`> I didn't manage to speak to jono
[00:26] <jpds> Me neither.
[00:27] <Myrtti> jpds: uhm, you were there?
[00:27] <Myrtti> X-|
[00:27] <jpds> Right...
[00:28] <jpds> Myrtti: I was with Nafallo towards the time you left. :-)
[00:28] <Myrtti> bollocks
[00:28] <jpds> I was kind of wondering if you knew who I was. ;0
[00:28] <jpds> ;)*
[00:29] <Myrtti> why don't I notice these things?
[00:29] <Seeker`> I think we need to get people to circulate a list of faces / irc nicknames
[00:30] <Myrtti> jpds: I usually tend to go by the technique 'if they know me, they'll come and talk'
[00:30] <Myrtti> otherwise its hopeless
[00:31] <Pici> It worked out the other way for me at UDS... mostly.
[00:31] <jpds> Pici: The only reason I knew you were you was cos I saw your IRC ;)
[00:32] <Seeker`> Myrtti: you looked kinda scared and confused when I came over to you
[00:35] <Myrtti> I wear pink and am female. if people don't realise to come and talk when they recognise me, I camn't be blamed ;-)
[00:36] <Myrtti> Seeker`: might have, I confess nothing
[00:37] <Seeker`> :P
[00:38] <Myrtti> thehe, someone is "playing" with their NDS
[00:38] <Seeker`> NDS?
[00:39] <Seeker`> nintendo DS?
[00:39] <Myrtti> nintendo ds lite, yeah
[00:39] <Myrtti> terribly cute :->
[00:41] <kitche> hmm by chance can a op maybe put in the topic for #ubuntu that the servers are being hammered right now? or is there a switch for ubottu for it?
[00:41] <Seeker`> :)
[00:43] <Myrtti> i iz sleepy, good night
[00:43] <Seeker`> nn
[00:43] <Seeker`> have fnu tomorrow being a tourist
[00:44] <Nafallo> meh. stop talking about me damit
[00:44] <Nafallo> wow.
[00:44] <Nafallo> got three passwords righly spelled first try, but can't spell 'damnit' damnit
[00:45] <Seeker`> :D
[00:45] <Seeker`> did anyone bump in to ikonia
[00:45] <Seeker`> last I heard he was near croyden travelling 10mph towards london
[00:55] <foxbuntu> Can someone tell me who an admin is for #ubuntu-server or give me a hand in there. I got someone swearing and refusing to move his chatter to -offtopic
[03:44] <HardDisk> hi fellas, im chanop for #ubuntu-eg, just wanted to let you know that apparently there was word someone wanted to take over due to my inactivity, I just wanted to apologize for my absence, I was in the process of marriage and a new job meaning i now live between Egypt and the UAE.  Just to let you know Im still around and will continue support as always in a few days time.
[06:11] <tritium> Flannel: yes, through tomorrow morning.
[06:11] <Flannel> Whereabouts? and for what?
[06:35] <Flannel> Hi Daskreech, how can we help you?
[06:35] <Daskreech> Flannel: In a moment just setting it up now
[06:37] <Daskreech> There we go :)
[06:37] <kb9vqf> I have changed the factoid for kde3 and was wondering what the status is
[06:38] <Flannel> !kde3
[06:38] <Flannel> Was there no factoid originally?
[06:38] <Daskreech> !kde3-#kubuntu
[06:38] <Daskreech> For some reason it's only allowed in the kubuntu chan
[06:38] <Flannel> not allowed, just set up that way.  Might be prudent to make that a full factoid.
[06:39] <Flannel> Yeah, I'm not sure why it has its own thing.
[06:40] <Daskreech> By full factoid you mean generally available ?
[06:41] <Flannel> !kde3
[06:41] <Flannel> It was an awkward way to put it, but yeah, that's what I meant.
[06:43] <kb9vqf> Thanks for the update!
[06:43] <Flannel> No problem.  Thank you.
[06:43] <Daskreech> Flannel: Question on the bot factoids
[06:43] <Daskreech> are they flagged in anyway for updates?
[06:44] <Flannel> Nope
[06:44] <Daskreech> would that make sense? There are quite a few kinda crusty factoids hanging around
[06:44] <Flannel> Thats true.  It happens.  We end up doing spring cleaning sorts of things every so often.
[06:45] <Daskreech> and it would be nice that at least in the first week of a release factoids are updated to be current
[06:46] <Daskreech> I know obviously not everyone of them can be reviewed but perhaps time critical ones can be flagged so the the week prior to a release they can be looked over
[07:08] <zzver> ...
[07:08] <Flannel> hi zzver, how can we help you?
[07:08] <zzver> Sry i speak only rus :x
[07:08] <zzver> a... How i can open file manager in icewm?
[07:10] <zzver> How to open the file manager in icewm?
[07:53] <Myrtti> gmoin
[07:55] <jpds> Good morning.
[07:56] <jussi01> mrngngnnh?
[08:19] <jackjohnson> why did i get blocked on offtopic?
[08:22] <evilGary> after a few warnings and you don't know?
[08:22] <topyli> jackjohnson: for bein deliberately annoying and ignoring any friendly advice
[08:23] <topyli> @login
[08:23] <topyli> @btlogin
[08:24] <topyli> jackjohnson: anything else we can help you with?
[08:26] <jackjohnson> i was havin a poop out
[08:27] <jackjohnson> what does @login do
[08:27] <Myrtti> nothing if you do it
[08:28] <jackjohnson> topyli: you were actually banning saying : enough and this is rude
[08:28] <topyli> it is?
[08:29] <topyli> sorry if you find it rude. i, as well as others gave you several warnings during a period of an hour or so. eventually, you had to be removed
[08:33] <topyli> jackjohnson: so is there anything else we can do for you? unfortunately you cannot idle on this channel
[08:36] <topyli> jackjohnson: please part the channel if there's nothing else. come back if you have further requirements in the future
[08:40] <jussi01> Daskreech: anything else you need from us?
[08:45] <Daskreech> Nope
[08:53] <jussi01> !idle | Daskreech
[10:04] <jussi01> BOLLOCKS!
[10:05] <jussi01> and thats my opinion today
[10:06] <evilGary> hawt
[10:12] <jussi01> evilGary: huh?
[10:15] <evilGary> sorry, was distracted with the bollocks word :p
[10:27] <jussi01> evilGary: hehe
[10:50] <screamsayonara> am i getting.. 'redirected' here because i accidentally swore or something in ubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <bazhang> screamsayonara, you were warned about swearing and continued to do so, please in the future keep the #ubuntu channels family-friendly (think G-rated)
[10:56] <screamsayonara> im a linguist,
[10:57] <screamsayonara> sigh
[10:57] <screamsayonara> its like the whole "the world is flat" thing
[10:58] <bazhang> !ohmy
[10:58] <bazhang> screamsayonara, is there something else we can help you with today?
[10:59] <screamsayonara> if samuel l jackson is allowed to say motherfucker, then i am allowed to say shit. thanks for your !command explanations *tips hat*
[11:07] <bazhang><EMAIL_ADDRESS>wondered if that was thefeds, but quit after being asked to go to ##windows
[13:32] <ikonia> gnomefreak: nothing much going on in +1 anymore time to close it yet ?
[13:32] <jpds> -cn dude pasting text
[13:33] <gnomefreak> ikonia: you can,i havent had time to check KK toolchain yet
[13:33] <ikonia> gnomefreak: it can be left open, I'm only asking
[13:33] <ikonia> gnomefreak: no pressure
[13:34] <bazhang> groovyorange in -ot
[13:34] <bazhang> as eatpotato
[13:35] <ikonia> EatPotato: hi, thanks for joinining
[13:35] <ikonia> EatPotato: have we spoken before ?
[13:35] <EatPotato> It nice when someone want me
[13:35] <EatPotato> yes
[13:35] <EatPotato> It's even the same PC
[13:35] <ikonia> EatPotato: what was your nickname when we spoke ?
[13:36] <ikonia> kholerabbi1: how can we help ?
[13:36] <EatPotato> "EatPotato"
[13:36] <kholerabbi1> you can't. I am being a tourist :D
[13:36] <ikonia> EatPotato: one moment
[13:36] <ikonia> kholerabbi1: this channel is for operator/irc issues only,
[13:36] <topyli> kholerabbi1: sorry, no tourists
[13:36] <kholerabbi1> OK
[13:37] <ikonia> EatPotato: in that case - same question as before really, just to confirm you are not "grow-as-apples" or "groovey orange" users
[13:38] <EatPotato> Vegetarian though...
[13:38] <ikonia> EatPotato: thats not what I asked
[13:38] <EatPotato> Not
[13:38] <ikonia> EatPotato: and you're %100 sure you've never used those nicknames
[13:39] <EatPotato> No
[13:39] <ikonia> EatPotato: ok, thanks for popping in
[13:40] <EatPotato> yeah, I should disconnect from the channel then
[13:40] <ikonia> EatPotato: if you could part the channel (unless there is something you need from us) and go about your IRC day, that would be great
[13:40] <ikonia> thanks for coming in
[13:40] <ikonia> bazhang: pateince.......
[13:41] <bazhang> ikonia, not sure what you mean; he is lying and ban-evading, of course every time you ask that he will deny.
[13:41] <ikonia> bazhang: no way of taking action at the moment, just updating logs.....patience
[13:42] <bazhang> still the same creepy evasive answers, and no resolution.
[13:42] <ikonia> +o offtopic
[13:42] <ubot2`> Factoid 'o offtopic' not found
[13:42] <bazhang> hehe
[13:42] <ikonia> can't do anything at the moment but store info for when it's needed
[13:44] <ikonia> bazhang: plus he follows the same patern as oranges - which is when kicked join #philosophy and troll/random babble
[13:44] <bazhang> ikonia, yep
[13:44] <ikonia> fujisan is also in there with him
[13:45] <bazhang> he should just /nick leper and be done with it
[13:45] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[14:03] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have a ban on me on ubuntu-motu channel i had a ban on kubuntu-devel channel which was lifted yesterday after jaunty release. can i get unbanned in the motu channel
[14:04] <ikonia> eagles0513875: from my point of view - I wouldn't recommend lifting the ban on #ubuntu-motu or any other channels as I find your input more trouble and disruptive then useful, and you refuse to listen to advice and follow it
[14:04] <ikonia> that is my personal comment on your ban
[14:05] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im behaving in devel and i am currently trying to work on verifying some bugs at the moment. im being super quiet in the devel channel
[14:05] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you've been in for less than a few hours, so thats not really a good example
[14:05] <ikonia> eagles0513875: and your behaviour / input in the other ubuntu channels are also the guide I'm using to make my comments
[14:05] <eagles0513875> in kubuntu im super quiet unless there is something i can help someone with
[14:06] <eagles0513875> i spend most of my time in kubuntu-offtopic
[14:06] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I've spoke to you a few times about #kubuntu and your comments in there
[14:06] <ikonia> (and thats just one example)
[14:08] <eagles0513875> would i be better off talking to the person who originally banned me
[14:08] <ikonia> yes, hobbsee is not around
[14:08] <ikonia> I'm making my comments in the channel so that it's logged and noted by hobbsee
[14:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[14:09] <eagles0513875> well i shall vacate the channel and return tomorrow
[14:14] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[14:17] <ikonia> @btlogout
[14:18] <jpds> I didn't know BT served .au.
[14:19] <ikonia> ha
[14:20] <eagles0513875> hey Hobbsee
[14:20] <eagles0513875> may i talk to you for a min
[14:21] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: yes, here.
[14:21] <eagles0513875> well you remember i had a ban till jaunty release
[14:22] <eagles0513875> that has been removed on kubuntu-devel and ubuntu-bugs but it hasnt been removed off motu
[14:22] <Hobbsee> no, you had a ban till the intrepid release.  You screwed up before the release, however, and got a permaban.
[14:22] <eagles0513875> y
[14:22] <ikonia> eagles0513875: it's not been removed from ubuntu-bugs
[14:22] <eagles0513875> *why
[14:22] <eagles0513875> i was in there yesterday
[14:22] <eagles0513875> unless it got put back on
[14:22] <ikonia> eagles0513875: then you where ban dodging
[14:22] <eagles0513875> i was on this nick
[14:23] <eagles0513875> i would like to join the bug squad but i cant due to the ban
[14:23] <ikonia> eagles0513875: then current nickname would not let you get in
[14:24] <eagles0513875> well then i dunno what happened last night
[14:24] <ikonia> however you where changing nick names a lot yesterday in other channels
[14:24] <ikonia> 20:17 -!- eagles0513875 is now known as eagles051387
[14:24] <ikonia> 20:18 -!- eagles051387 is now known as eagles0513875_
[14:24] <ikonia> 20:19 -!- eagles0513875_ is now known as eagles0513875
[14:24] <ikonia> 20:31 -!- eagles0513875 is now known as eagles051387
[14:24] <ikonia> 20:32 -!- eagles051387 is now known as eagles0513875
[14:24] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i was doing that so i can setup a cloak
[14:24] <eagles0513875> and linking and all that
[14:24] <ikonia> yes, maybe that was the issue though, you changed nicks to one that was to get around the ban
[14:25] <eagles0513875> if i did i didnt do that on purpose
[14:25] <ikonia> ok
[14:25] <eagles0513875> i would love to join the bug squad but i cant due to the ban :(
[14:25] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: why were you thinking it was OK to join that channel, if you knew you were banned?
[14:25] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: which channel ubuntu-bugs
[14:25] <Hobbsee> yes
[14:25] <eagles0513875> i thought the ban was until jaunty release
[14:26] <Hobbsee> no, it was originally until the intrepid release, like i said earlier.
[14:26] <eagles0513875> and i was as ikonia showed changing nicks so i can link and  group nicks to get a cloak
[14:26] <Hobbsee> Then you ban evaded, and showed absolutely no sign of improvement.  Thus, it became a permanent ban.
[14:26] <eagles0513875> that was an accident that i was probably on another nick
[14:26] <Hobbsee> Now, is there anything else we can help you with?
[14:26] <eagles0513875> well i would love to get on the bug squad but cant :( so no chance at a ban reversal
[14:27] <Hobbsee> no.
[14:27] <Hobbsee> not until you show you can behave in userland channels.   If you've had no bans in userland channels between now and the karmic release, then we'll look at removing the bans in -motu, -devel, and -bugs, OK?
[14:27] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: well im in devel right now
[14:27] <eagles0513875> on this nick
[14:28] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: #ubuntu-devel.
[14:28] <eagles0513875> kubuntu-devel
[14:28] <eagles0513875> was the ban on ubuntu-devel or kubuntu-devel
[14:28] <Hobbsee> yes, i've seen you there, asking support questions, and not adding to anything.  One can only wonder how long it will be before you get booted out of there too.
[14:28] <Hobbsee> the ban was in #ubuntu-devel.  We've covered this.
[14:28] <eagles0513875> ok im just making sure i dont wanna be ban evading again
[14:29] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: i only said one thing and have been quiet the rest of the time
[14:29] <eagles0513875> watching and learning
[14:29]  * eagles0513875 will leave channel before he gets into more trouble
[14:29]  * eagles0513875 leave
[14:29] <Hobbsee> for the record, you're not welcome in #ubuntu-motu, #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-bugs, and possibly a few others...
[14:31]  * Hobbsee updates the bantracker
[15:07] <ikonia> @bansearch fujisan
[15:12] <tsimpson> @bansearch fujisan
[15:12] <tsimpson> I knew I had some on them
[15:19] <elky> did he actually play up?
[15:23] <ikonia> no, I was just curious to how banned he was, and if he was dodging a kline
[15:25] <elky> he's been acting very different the past week
[15:26] <elky> by very different i mean a stark one almost like 'spent a night in a gaol cell with a big black dude named bubba'
[15:27] <elky> there is still a ban on his unaffiliated cloak for u-ot i believe
[15:28] <elky> but he hasnt had that for donkeys
[18:49] <DBO> hmmm, my client seems to think hes not banned
[18:50] <LjL> konus_ is banned by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:51] <DBO> there we go
[18:51] <DBO> I am PMing him
[19:01] <jackjohnson> excuse me why was <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> blcoked
[19:01] <jackjohnson> blocked
[19:01] <jackjohnson> ?
[19:11] <bazhang> jackjohnson, you wished to speak with topyli ?
[19:11] <bazhang> jackjohnson, not sure if he is around right now.
[19:11] <jackjohnson> topyli, sorry i had a little prob in offtopic, but make the kickban temporary (5m)
[19:11] <topyli> i am here. thanks for hilighting bazhang
[19:12] <bazhang> topyli, aha, okey
[19:12] <jackjohnson> cor
[19:12] <jackjohnson> dbo is in the channel
[19:13] <topyli> jackjohnson: so how can i help?
[19:19] <gnomefreak> ok +1 can be closed and people kicked, i will worry about toolchain later im way too busy for the next week or so
[19:20] <topyli> jackjohnson: did you come here to talk about your ban on -offtopic?
[19:20] <topyli> otherwise, i don't think we have much business together
[19:20] <topyli> idling on this channel is not allowed
[19:22] <Seeker`> hi
[19:23] <bazhang> hi!
[19:23] <bazhang> !idle | jackjohnson
[19:23] <jpds> hi Seeker`
[19:26] <Seeker`> ikonia: ping
[19:26] <Seeker`> hi jpds
[19:32] <topyli> sorry, got disconnected. it was a terrible 20 seconds!
[19:33] <topyli> jackjohnson: please part the channel if you have no inquiry
[19:37]  * gnomefreak sits back and watches with a drink in hand
[19:38] <topyli> jackjohnson: do you have to be removed from here *again*?
[19:52] <topyli> for the record, i'm no longer dealing with jackjohnson
[19:52] <bazhang> it takes two coins to click as they say
[19:55] <bazhang> * [Guest95367] (n=ahmed@<IP_ADDRESS>): Ahmed  seems like he was ban-dodging again instead of coming here to have ban lifted
[19:55] <bazhang> jackjohnson, please part the channel
[19:55]  * Myrtti has aching tummy and feet :-<
[19:56] <Seeker`> Myrtti: whats wrog?
[19:57] <Seeker`> I guess feet is too much walking
[20:01] <topyli> too big a city :(
[20:03] <topyli> @mark jackjohnson banned from -ot, then turned into a professional idler on -ops. never asks for any operator service. new trolling technique is to annoy ops by presence
[20:06] <Myrtti> Seeker`: i've got no idea, either too little to drink or badly cooked food
[20:07] <genii> Bleh. Work is busy today.
[20:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: :/
[20:08] <topyli> lack of drinks does sound like something that could be responsible for all sorts of ailments
[20:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: I'm assuming dinner last night tasted ok?
[20:09] <Myrtti> yup, my prime suspects are tomatoes at breakfast or the ice cream
[20:09] <Seeker`> :(
[20:10] <Seeker`> ice cream for breakfast?! :P
[20:10] <genii> Damned English cooks!
[20:10] <Myrtti> and also have blisters whih was expected
[20:10] <genii> Whats weird is they usually boil the crap out of everything actually.
[20:11] <Myrtti> Seeker`: lunch actually ;-)
[20:11] <Seeker`> genii: oi!
[20:11] <Seeker`> Myrtti: :)
[20:11] <Seeker`> Myrtti: what touristy stuff did you get up to?
[20:12] <Myrtti> hyde park, science museum, covent garden, kleopatra obelisk
[20:13] <Seeker`> cool
[20:15] <Seeker`> I worked :(
[20:16] <Myrtti> I'm enjoying the fact I didn't and actually got off me arse and walked and moved (painful reminders acquired!)
[20:17] <Seeker`> :D
[20:25] <jpds> Damn.
[20:45] <rww> Hey everyone. !o4o and its application to LGBT issues came up on https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lgbt/ recently, and I figured it'd be good to give you guys a heads up, so you know what's going on if you start getting asked questions about it all of a sudden. Also, if anyone has a second, can you check that my interpretation of things in https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lgbt/msg00019.html is correct? Thanks :)
[20:53] <Seeker`> eugh
[20:55] <evilGary> rww: hehe, I see why there have been comments, but I feel the section which contains "sexuality" has been misinterpreated here, It's really to stop people saying things like "oi you homo" or "my mate fred is so gay/ghey" etc
[20:56] <rww> evilGary: then that should probably be clarified, because people seem to think it means serious discussions of sexuality :)
[20:58] <evilGary> I take it we are talking about this regarding a -offtopic or loco channel, not the main support channel?
[20:58] <evilGary> as one of the staff on freenode, I can confirm that homophobic behaviour is offtopic on this network, and o4o is not meant like this, however for serious discussions, i'd (with my staff hat on here) suggest it'd be wise to move to a channel such as #gaygeeks
[21:00] <Myrtti> i'd have comments, but commenting with me n800 is somewhat painful
[21:00] <Seeker`> hehe
[21:01] <evilGary> Myrtti: are they similar to mine or different? :p
[21:01] <evilGary> also, get a n810, they have a keyboard :-)
[21:01] <Myrtti> similar to both yours and rww's
[21:02] <Myrtti> evilGary: I got this especially because it doesn't
[21:02] <evilGary> you keyboardphobic you O_O
[21:03] <Myrtti> makes switching between languages easier. n810's finnish keyboard isn't eveen with a proper layout
[21:03] <Myrtti> anyhoo
[21:04]  * Seeker` prods evilGary to look at PM
[21:04] <rww> evilGary, Myrtti: The person I was replying to just replied back saying that now that he /read/ the guidelines, they seem a whole lot less controversial than he was lead to think (funny how that works).
[21:05] <evilGary> as well as reading them, it's also the reasoning behind why they were written like that.
[21:05] <Myrtti> in general, the guidelines are mostly guidelines, and how theey are applied is dependant on the op
[21:05] <evilGary> there is no homophobia implied or meant, and to read some in is not what they were written for (if that made any sence)
[21:06] <Myrtti> sexuality is ok, as long as the discussion is in general suitable for your mother and 10y o niece to read
[21:07] <Pricey> Myrtti: !o4o requires rewriting then?
[21:07] <Myrtti> gender is ok, as long as there is no pix or it didn't happen-demands
[21:07] <Pricey> both are on o4o..
[21:07] <Myrtti> BUT
[21:07] <Seeker`> I couldn't care less who joins what channel, just that what they talk about is suitable for that channel
[21:07] <Seeker`> Pricey: I don't believe o4o needs rewriting
[21:08] <Myrtti> me neither
[21:08] <Seeker`> "Don't discuss offtopic things" should suffice
[21:08] <Seeker`> sadly, peopple need clarification as to what exactly that means
[21:08] <Pricey> o4o currently states that gender and sexuality are o4o?
[21:08] <Seeker`> Pricey: yes
[21:09] <Seeker`> Pricey: Noone should give a **** what gender or sexuality someone is on any of the channels
[21:09]  * Myrtti curses he slow typing
[21:09] <Pricey> right
[21:10] <Pricey> 20:06:42 <+Myrtti> sexuality is ok, as long as the discussion is in general suitable for your mother and 10y o niece to read
[21:10] <Pricey> 20:07:19 <+Myrtti> gender is ok, as long as there is no pix or it didn't happen-demands
[21:10] <Seeker`> a reasonable discussion of it is probably acceptable; however from what I've seen from -offtopic, no discussion can stay sensible for longer than about the time it takes the light to travel 2 inches
[21:11] <Pricey> which is why the general consensus is to nip it in the bud before its an issue?
[21:11] <Myrtti> yup
[21:11] <Seeker`> Pricey: I believe that is a sensible policy
[21:11] <Pricey> right i think i understand what you were on about now sorry
[21:11] <evilGary> and thats why I suggested moving subjects such as this to a more apt place
[21:12] <Myrtti> but if gender was banned altogether, I'd have to be quiet about 1/3 of the time
[21:12] <evilGary> it's not that they are not allowed to be talked about, it's more about generally keeping the channel sane
[21:12] <evilGary> and if sexuality was banned, i'd be doomed
[21:13] <Myrtti> as far as sexuality goes, mine is none of you're business, but if someone wants to discuss it 'in depth' (pun intended) i'm sure theres more suitable places than -ot
[21:14] <Myrtti> s/discuss it/discuss theirs/
[21:14] <Seeker`> I think I'm being discriminated against! I'm diabetic and o4o says no discussion of drugs
[21:15]  * evilGary facepalms
[21:15] <Myrtti> kkekeke
[21:15] <rww> If a discussion springs up about LGBT rights in #ubuntu-offtopic, is proceeding reasonably and is family-friendly, and is then interrupted by a couple of people making anti-LGBT comments, then what? The discussion has to end because a couple of people can't act maturely?
[21:16] <evilGary> depends what comments, and if I see them
[21:16]  * evilGary hides
[21:16] <Seeker`> rww: I think that the point is, -offtopic as a channel is so incredibly immature, it will descend ito anti-LGBT comments eventually
[21:16] <Myrtti> idiots are kicked, and the discussion is directed to more suitable channels
[21:16] <Myrtti> like Gaygeeks or smth
[21:17] <Seeker`> rww: and then you have to clear up the mess and calm the children^Wusers down again
[21:17] <Myrtti> again, case by case, tthat's what i'd do
[21:17] <evilGary> /1/1
[21:18] <topyli> i have a simple anti-asshat policy
[21:18] <Seeker`> topyli++
[21:18] <topyli> no logic behind it, just remove asshats
[21:18] <Seeker`> I think a hybrid of Myrtti and topyli's methods could work
[21:19]  * Myrtti chuckles
[21:19] <evilGary> we should merge them
[21:19] <Seeker`> what? Myrtti and topyli ?
[21:19] <evilGary> yeah
[21:19] <topyli> hehe
[21:19] <Myrtti> oh noea
[21:19] <Seeker`> topyrtti
[21:19] <Myrtti> noes
[21:19] <Seeker`> Myli?
[21:19] <rww> hehe
[21:20] <evilGary> Myrtli
[21:20] <topyli> Myrtti is a great drinking buddy but i don't think we're that far yet
[21:20] <Myrtti> typortti
[21:21] <evilGary> rww: have we gone any way to confirm the meaning of o4o?
[21:21] <Myrtti> I suspect your missus and my dsample would not agree either
[21:21] <rww> evilGary: Yes, this discussion was helpful, thanks :)
[21:21]  * Seeker` waves to dsample
[21:22] <Myrtti> Seeker`: waves rceived, returned
[21:23] <Seeker`> :)
[21:23] <topyli> believe it or not, i'm watching conan the barbarian. it's on tv .)
[21:23] <topyli> it's wonderful!
[21:23] <topyli> his was a tale of sorrow
[21:23] <Seeker`> is there some new meaning to "wonderful" I hvaen't heard of yet?
[21:24] <Seeker`> or are you just missing a </sarcasm>
[21:24] <rww> Anyways, I'll leave you to your TV discussion before someone throws !idle at me. Thanks for the discussion :)
[21:24] <Seeker`> seeya
[21:24] <Myrtti> np was fun
[21:29] <topyli> Seeker`: hey no conan dissing!
[21:31] <Seeker`> :P
[21:31] <topyli> porn link on -fi
[21:31] <topyli> ah the troll left
[21:34] <guntbert> Hi, in #ubuntu
 hey if anyone needs help, message me :)) put my name in it or talk to me directly
[21:35] <guntbert> I'm not sure, but in some way these lines (there are more) look fishy to me
[21:36] <Seeker`> Myrtti: pm?
[21:36] <Myrtti> sure
[21:49]  * LjL laughs at ML posting
[21:50] <topyli> thanks guntbert. is there anything else?
[21:50] <guntbert> it might be he tries to lurk people into PM though
[21:50] <topyli> yes it does sound like that
[21:51] <guntbert> no, nothing else, just wanted to wait for any reaction, bye :-))
[22:16] <LjL> !ext4 is <reply> We don't know. Maybe.
[22:16] <LjL> thought i'd make a shorter verison.
[22:17] <chx> please help #kubuntu mari floods the channel
[22:18] <histo> How long do suggestions to ubottu take to get added usually?  Just curious...
[22:21] <jpds> LjL: You're worse than http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E51BQVOmdo :P

[22:21] <LjL> people this day can't convery information without using links to flash stuff that forces me to start firefox :(
[22:24] <LjL> histo: sometimes forever
[22:25] <histo> kk


[01:00] <blip-> anyone know how to start the xfce task manager from the command line ?
[01:00] <blip-> I don't seem to have xfce4-taskmanager even though I can start it fine from the menu
[01:01] <knome> blip-, what's it called in the menu?
[01:02] <blip-> knome: hmm I just realized the one in the menu is called system monitor :/   I guess xubuntu uses the gnome tool rather than the xfce one
[01:03] <blip-> knome: yeah found it, gnome-system-monitor apparently
[01:03] <knome> blip-, you can install xfce4-taskmanager from the repository if you want.
[01:04] <blip-> knome: nah it's fine, I want to install as little as possible to keep the system quick.   I just found it odd this choice
[01:04] <knome> ok. i suppose the choice was made for its better features, but can't really be sure. i'm asking the devs for this.
[01:06] <blip-> got another question, I'm trying to bind my laptop volume keys using the Keyboard settings... it works fine to detect the key, but what command am I meant to issue to raise sound ?   Should I be looking at xfce4-mixer or alsamixer ?   (I used usb headset sometimes btw)
[01:06] <blip-> *use
[01:06] <knome> amixer sset Master 5%- / amixer sset Master 5%+ / mute
[01:07] <burner> i just saw recent benchmarks for ubuntu v xubuntu and gnome came out ahead in most cases on phoronix
[01:08] <blip-> hahah
[01:08] <burner> seems like the lxde based lubuntu is taking over on the low end hardware
[01:08] <knome> burner, can you please link me to those benchmarks?
[01:08] <blip-> yeah same here
[01:08] <burner> i could... but my X is down... phoronix.com
[01:08] <blip-> burner: I looked for the darn lubuntu online last time... no where to be found any iso
[01:08] <burner> booting X, i'll find a proper link
[01:09] <burner> blip-: it's alpha version and not really ready yet
[01:09] <blip-> and lxde just won't match xfce, I think they do desktop icons via the file manager PCManFM
[01:09] <blip-> won't match on the ease of use i mean
[01:09] <knome> burner, there are some reasons why xubuntu might turn out to be slower than ubuntu.
[01:09] <blip-> but who cares about that
[01:09] <blip-> so it's not just me that has been noticing xfce getting slower over the last few years...
[01:10] <blip-> I find it now sits in the middle ground between KDE4 and something like Openbox
[01:11] <knome> xfce is still faster than gnome and as even gnome is going a distinct way in the future, it leaves xfce as the only "traditional" de.
[01:11] <knome> openbox is not a desktop environment, it's only a window manager.
[01:13] <blip-> yeah I meant openbox with the commonly used desktop env elements added on
[01:13] <knome> well, what are those? you can use gnome DE stuff in xfce and no wonder it's slower
[01:13] <blip-> the xfwm has improved vastly in speed since 4.6... close to openbox wm now
[01:15] <blip-> knome: yeah good point.  I tried like a few choices for each,  panels were fbpanel, pypane, kicker, xfce4-panel and others.   desktop icons there was pcmanfm and this other thing I can't remember.
[01:16] <knome> burner, i have to go to bed really soon but i'm interested in seeing those benchmarks, so please paste their link to this channel once you found it.
[01:17] <blip-> I think I did something bad, I must have uninstalled some audio stuff by mistake..... exaille and such don't switch to my usb headset for output anymore
[01:17] <knome> blip-, i hope someone can help you
[01:18] <knome> i have to go to bed
[01:18] <knome> good night everybody
[01:18] <blip-> yeah me too. good night
[01:18] <blip-> and thanks for the help earlier knome
[01:56] <justin_> hey im trying to get a usb wirless card to work on my laptop but i cant seem to get it to register anyone think they can lend a hand with the problem
[03:08] <chase1> hi guys, i have a big problem :S somehow my xubuntu got corrupted, and despite there not being a xubuntu partition, me uninstalling it from windows, and trying to edit boot.ini, it still shows up in my dual boot screen and any attempts to install another linux OS over it just fails.  any ideas at all? really desperate here
[03:26] <jiohdi> I have lost my panels on the desktop, where do I find the settings to bring them back or add new ones
[04:25] <justin_> hey guys im having trouble with my wireless ndiswrapper sees the device and sees its installed but i cant use it
[04:27] <justin_> anyone?
[04:28] <justin_> ....
[13:58] <blip-> hi all,  when I first installed xubuntu 9.04.... my usb headset worked superbly.  I plug it in, then it becomes the default and I play music through Exaille... now the sound comes out of the laptop speakers.   any idea if a package could be responsible ?
[15:39] <anders__1> Can you you redirect vga from the screen to vga out on a laptop? Is there an app for this?
[16:05] <Rebs80> can anyone help, i cant seem to save resolution changes on xubuntu
[16:47] <blip-> hi all,  does anyone use a usb headset with xubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:50] <oscar> no, I don't blip
[16:50] <oscar> I have trouble configuring my time and date
[16:51] <blip-> hahaha
[16:51] <blip-> I guess i'm lucky then :)
[16:51] <oscar> sure )))))
[16:52] <oscar> I do it. but it has no effect in the tray ((
[18:25] <slow-motion> hi
[18:58] <Kasalehlia> hi, ich have a problem with xubuntu 9.04
[18:58] <Kasalehlia> i am german and i tried to set xfce to german, but it didnt work properly
[20:59] <TheS> Hello.
[23:16] <squashc> I need some printing help.
[23:18] <squashc> I'm running xubuntu 9.04, and I can't get applications->settings->printing


[06:32] <xubuntu62i> what kiind of help can I get here
[06:33] <flocculant> xubuntu62i: ask your question and see if people can help
[06:34] <xubuntu62i> my installation failed saying unable to remove initrmfs
[06:36] <flocculant> xubuntu62i: check the iso you downloaded first : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[06:36] <xubuntu62i> can someone help please??
[06:36] <flocculant> is this a brand new install or something else?
[06:36] <xubuntu62i> the md5 hash is proper.
[06:36] <xubuntu62i> I checked
[06:37] <xubuntu62i> Installing on virtualbox
[06:38] <flocculant> still in the installation? if so try sudo update-initramfs -u
[06:38] <flocculant> if not I'd be inclined to retry
[06:38] <xubuntu62i> ok let me try that
[06:38] <xubuntu62i> thanks
[06:38] <flocculant> np
[06:39] <flocculant> if it gets much more work - likely quicker to redo it


[23:06] <mozambique_littl> helllo
[23:07] <mozambique_littl> is there anyone that know portuguese activity in the net


[01:11] <holstein> m1chael: its not so much a bug, as a specific issue related to your hardware
[01:11] <cubed_root> is there a bug re: the minimum width a column can be in thunar?
[01:11] <holstein> m1chael: keeping up with updates can help, since, a kernel update could address that
[01:27] <sheer> hey does anyone know why i can't find this on the software centre app: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/screencloud/
[01:27] <sheer> what extra repositories do I need to enable? I seem to have them all enabled
[01:28] <holstein> !info screencloud
[01:29] <sheer> dammit
[01:29] <sheer> thanks
[01:30] <holstein> sheer: the link you have states the supported versions of ubuntu
[01:30] <sheer> yeah, I see that now
[01:30] <sheer> thanks holstein
[01:31] <holstein> sheer: im not seeing a PPA in a casual search here
[01:31] <xangua> https://screencloud.net/
[01:34] <sheer> yeah it's a bit weird, it has no PPA and instead uses an inbuilt update mechanism
[01:34] <holstein> yeah, i would just get the .deb that xangua linked, sheer
[01:34] <sheer> which is probs why it's a few verions out of date on the software centre
[01:34] <sheer> thanks for the help guise
[01:34] <holstein> sheer: ppa's are made by community members
[06:27] <MAbeeTT> Hi! I installed xubuntu 14.04 and I am searching for the GUI for setting proxy URI as global setting.
[08:53] <Guest6132> hello
[10:12] <xubuntu941> So in Xubuntu 14.04 - after logging out, I log back in to a blank desktop background (menus and all gone)
[10:13] <xubuntu941> This happens every time I log in now, even after reboot
[10:17] <xubuntu955> Hey does anyone know how to use synapse-indicator via shortcut. Even the default shortcut <super><alt>space is not working.
[11:02] <nagev> xubuntu955: did you upgrade to xubuntu 14.04 recently?  Synapse package gets removed on upgrade as it is not included in the 14.04 repositories :(
[11:03] <ochosi> nagev: he has long left...
[11:03] <baizon> nagev: he meant the indicator-synapse package. That is a different problem :) but also not an xubuntu one
[11:03] <baizon> yeah, also hes left the channel :)
[11:04] <nagev> ok
[12:29] <thchipmunk> Can anyone tell me how I can install Xubuntu from the minimal CD? I am not seeing an option for selecting Xubuntu anywhere.
[12:30] <thchipmunk> Google just keeps giving me results for doing Ubuntu then installing Xfce
[12:34] <kgb> never installed minimal, bt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:34] <adrian> Hello there.
[12:35] <thchipmunk> Wow! Sorry, next time I'll actually read the opening paragraph and not jump to the downloads. Thanks!
[12:35] <Guest44723> I have strange problem with ssh, I can't log from fresh xubuntu to my centos server
[12:35] <Guest44723> all I get is: debug1: Connecting to...
[12:35] <Guest44723> and it takes ages before it time out
[12:36] <Guest44723> Is there any option I need to tune to connect with ssh?
[12:37] <Guest44723> I found out that I can connect with ssh to computers inside my LAN, but not to outside. (in this case AWS external IP)
[12:37] <Guest44723> any ideas?
[12:37] <kgb> thchipmunk: idk., you know: if you can install xfce on top of it..
[12:38] <kgb> (or there are some blog-posts about actually installing xubuntu from minimal, but idk. :))
[12:39] <thchipmunk> Yeah, I just found two. I think I just wasn't looking hard enough
[12:40] <Guest44723> no one else had same problem with ssh?
[12:41] <thchipmunk> Thanks for the help
[12:44] <kgb> Guest44723: tried -4 option maybe
[12:46] <Guest44723> what -4 stands for? It didn't help anyway
[12:47] <Pici> force ipv4 iirc.
[12:51] <kgb> ^
[12:52] <kgb> .. because the time-out is long, it *could* suggest ipv6 issue; change it in the network settings to link-local only MAYBE
[13:35] <MAbeeTT> Hi! I installed xubuntu 14.04 and I am searching for the GUI for setting proxy URI as global setting.
[13:35] <MAbeeTT> thanks.
[13:38] <baizon> MAbeeTT: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[13:44] <MAbeeTT> baizon: tanks, this is not a GUI, and acctually the procedure is not aceptable for a laptop computer.
[13:47] <baizon> MAbeeTT: ubproxy
[14:14] <GridCube> there is no GUI to set up a proxy systemwide on x/l/ubuntu
[14:14] <xubuntu689> bonjour je viens d'installer xubuntu sur un portable (vieux)  et mon ecran ne marche pas à l'ouverture de la session.  au demarage tout va bien mais au demarrage de la session l'ecran s'eteind
[14:15] <ochosi> !fr
[14:15] <ochosi> xubuntu689: ^
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !proxy
[14:41] <xubuntu991> Hey does somebody know how to start indicator-synapse via keyboard-shortcut? Even the default shortcut "<super><alt>space" is not working.
[14:55] <Kekai> I run Xubuntu 14.04 lts and it will not mount my Usb Sticks
[14:56] <Kekai> I have tried using the terminal comands, but no luck I get an error.
[14:58] <GridCube> Kekai, is this with all usb sticks on all usb ports?
[14:58] <Kekai> yes.
[15:00] <Kekai> I wanted to try Ubuntu but I ourged it through the pure xubuntu site. Now my network manager is gone and i can not connect.
[15:02] <Kekai> I thought I could fix this if i Made a new live usb.
[15:15] <Kekai> Im getting a "can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" error when i try to mount in terminal
[15:22] <Kekai_> I keep fetting a " can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" error when I use terminal to mount USB drives
[15:46] <Kekai> I keep getting an "can't find /dev/sdd1in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[19:48] <xubuntu320> Hi all. Running into a silly problem with the wireless GUI (nm-applet) not displaying. Is this the right place to ask questions about that?
[19:57] <TheSheep> yes
[19:58] <notwist> xubuntu320: "don't ask about asking" is usually a pointer made in these kinds of channels
[19:59] <notwist> just write what's up :)
[20:02] <ochosi> notwist: you can also use the !ask factoid ;)
[20:03] <notwist> cool
[20:03] <notwist> !ask
[20:03] <notwist> ls
[20:03] <notwist> ...right, this is not a prompt
[20:03] <ochosi> :)
[20:03] <notwist> I need some sleep
[20:06] <xubuntu320> Okay. On 13.10 xubuntu it worked fine, after upgrading to 14.04 the process is running but not displaying. So no easy way to choose a network for example. This is the error I'm seeing when running it manually  "** (nm-applet:6071): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-mK7ElGSkVV: Connection refused"
[20:07] <sergio-br2> hey hello everyone
[20:08] <sergio-br2> someone using firefox, with html5 video in youtube?
[20:08] <sergio-br2> it uses over 100% of cpu, it gets 80ºC here (normally is 50ºC)
[20:50] <khamer> Anyone know if there is a SVG version of the Xubuntu trusty wallpaper? (blue, mouse in the middle)
[22:04] <Noskcaj_> Does xubuntu hav an issue with uefi currently? My live usb is failing and going to an initramfs/busybox screen and won't let me type anything there
[22:04] <bah_> hi... I am not able to get the "special" key mapping then using alt-right key and US keyboard settings.  why ?
[22:15] <xubuntu067> Hi, I'm trying to import Eolution .ics calendar into Orage. Orage seems reading the file and then shows nothing in its own calendar. Anybody knows what might be a problem?
[22:15] <bah_> ok,,it seems the only US keybord mapping that works is English(US) for example English(US, with Euro on 5) does not work. why ?  This drives me mad !
[22:43] <xubuntu067> quit
[22:44] <xubuntu067> Quit
[22:51] <xubuntu760> hello
[23:49] <a5m0> hey i've been trying to install nvidia proprietart driver on my gtx 670 but it only reboots to a completely red screen.. anyone have any suggestions?