[10:03] <zvacet> Mert : try to type name of app for example songbird
[10:03] <HazeFaze> ah okay, then I missunderstood
[10:03] <calebH> HazeFaze: I use the non-OSE because I need the USB support
[10:03] <flyman> peeps123: i promise we'll get you fixed, even if it's not me
[10:04] <HazeFaze> I changed from virtualbox over to KVM - it is slight too
[10:04] <peeps123> flyman  lol and thank yo very much
[10:04] <napsy> Hello. What's the package name for the debug version of the Linux kernel?
[10:04] <calebH> timClicks: I should have clarified - I don't use the OSE version of VirtualBox (from the repos), I use the "closed-source" version from the VirtualBox website (which comes with USB support)
[10:04] <flyman> shoss: are you using a laptop?
[10:05] <shoss> flyman: yes acer aspire 5920
[10:05] <calebH> timClicks: it's also "free" to use, but not true OSS
[10:05] <aksci> i use prism for google-docs! is there any way i can have it remember by password like we do in a browser!
[10:05] <flyman> intel by any chance?
[10:06] <shoss> flyman: yes, sorry, I'm not sure what info you need, but yes it's intel dual core 1.66
[10:06] <timClicks> _angelo_: well, it's above 2.0
[10:06] <HazeFaze> calebH: are you running VB on a separate host machine or locally on your workstation?
[10:06] <timClicks> _angelo_: are you testing compatibility with an application?
[10:06] <calebH> HazeFaze: locally
[10:06] <_angelo_> timClicks, what is the name of package? (I have found the command: apt-cache showpkg)
[10:06] <timbojimbo> where might the fluxbox file be? does any one know? I want to make the nm-applet automatically turn on on startup
[10:07] <masterb8or> hello all
[10:07] <_angelo_> no, timClicks ... I want to file a bug and needd version of package
[10:07] <calebH> plus on a headless server box at work for various thins
[10:07] <calebH> *things
[10:07] <flyman> shoss: it's fine. I ask cause I fixed a dell laptop w/intel not long ago that had ACPI Error (psargs-0358): [CDW1] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND issues
[10:07] <timClicks> _angelo_: there's no single package
[10:08] <timClicks> _angelo_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gtk
[10:08] <peeps123> flyman its asking which syntax
[10:08]  * calebH is thinking he needs to get some sleep if he's gonna get up and watch the NFL games in the morning...
[10:08] <masterb8or> is there a way to view a user list in xchat?
[10:08] <flyman> shoss: try opening a terminal and type sudo cp dsdt.aml /etc/initramfs-tools/DSDT.aml
[10:08] <prince_jammys> masterb8or: try /names
[10:09] <flyman> er wait, don't
[10:09] <masterb8or> thx
[10:09] <flyman> i didn't have you download the file
[10:09] <amigamia> i am trying to install 8.04.3 using wubi but it is looking for 8.04.1 how can i work around this?
[10:09] <calebH> masterb8or: you can also always type /help to get help with irc commands
[10:09] <_angelo_> timClicks, my bug is related with the print dialog...what's the component and product that do I have to choose?
[10:09] <calebH> then, to see which commands do what, type /help <command> (e.g. /help names)
[10:10] <peppot> any solution for PulseAudio and hda-intel for Jaunty other than disabling it? 0.9.14 simply doesn't work on my system -- everything stutters horrendously.
[10:10] <shoss> flyman: cp: cannot stat `dsdt.aml': No such file or directory
[10:10] <shoss>  :)
[10:10] <alkisg> Where should I put a command, e.g. /usr/bin/xterm, so that it runs *while on gdm* and before the user logs in?
[10:10] <flyman> peeps123: for what?
[10:10] <calebH> alkisg: what version of ubuntu?
[10:10] <alkisg> calebH: jaunty
[10:10] <peeps123> on the ubuntu pastebin
[10:10] <flyman> shoss: type uname -r in terminal
[10:11] <flyman> what kernel are you running?
[10:11] <shoss> flyman: is it me who needs downloading a file for the APCI errors?
[10:11] <shoss> flyman: 2.6.28-15-generic
[10:11] <Lupo_Lanco> try to run ./kurso3  and  I get some kind of error message linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb7fdc000)
[10:11] <amigamia> is there a solution to the wubi issue?
[10:11] <flyman> shoss: yeah, but depending on your kernel might be able to update it via initramfs
[10:11] <Lupo_Lanco> kurso is an esperanto language program
[10:11] <wonderboy> whats the best way to measure the power consumption of my desktop?
[10:12] <Lupo_Lanco> i'm running jaunty and KDE
[10:12] <xrfang> hello, can I run gnome-ppp without root prevelidge?
[10:12] <calebH> alkisg: well, there are a few ways to do it and I'm not sure if I would give you the best advise
[10:12] <timClicks> _angelo_: ah.. each application has its own print dialogue
[10:12] <_angelo_> angelo, well...firefox and gedit
[10:12] <timClicks> _angelo_: so send the bug to whichever application that you find the bug
[10:13] <marcellus> Windows redraw slowly (jaunty,compiz,Nvidia 9500GT,just installed) and I have googled that setting "Force synchronization between X and GLX" would be the solution, but I don't have such an option in ccsm?
[10:13] <grawity> timClicks: It does? I thought it's the standard GTK one.
[10:13] <timClicks> _angelo_: they will forward it to the right people if need be :)
[10:13] <alkisg> calebH: *any* way would be good enough for me as  I only need it for testing purposes.... so feel free to give any advice :)
[10:13] <timClicks> grawity: there's a GNOME standard
[10:13] <shoss> flyman: 2.6.28-15-generic
[10:13] <CE2> will it be possible to upgrade from 9.10 alpha-6 to final? my gf's alpha4 installation destroyed itself when upgrading from alpha4->alpha6
[10:13] <timClicks> grawity: not a GTK+ standard, per se (as I understand things - may be wrong)
[10:14] <calebH> alkisg: but one way is to put a symlink in /etc/rc*.d/ (read the 'boot' man page for more info)
[10:14] <Lupo_Lanco> library problem
[10:14] <flyman> shoss: I think if we use CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m it will fix our issue
[10:14] <Lupo_Lanco> try to run ./kurso3  and  I get some kind of error message linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb7fdc000)
[10:14] <amigamia> ok i dont understand. you put the 8.04.3 distros together with wubi.exe for 8.04.1 so why?
[10:14] <amigamia> is there a solution?
[10:15] <shoss> flyman: so i just type that in the terminal?
[10:15] <calebH> alkisg: "man boot" & read under "Sequencing Directories"
[10:15] <soreau> marcellus: That option is only available in recent versions of compiz, ie. Jaunty and later
[10:15] <alkisg> calebH: at which point is X initialized? E.g. could I put it in rcS.d/S99 ?
[10:15] <HazeFaze> wonderboy: you can check gnome-power-statistics
[10:15] <marcellus> soreau: I have jaunty
[10:15] <calebH> alkisg: I'd put it in rc2.d
[10:15] <amigamia> i might as well go back and use hoary
[10:15] <flyman> shoss: I wish it was that easy, unfortunately have to mess with the kernel. I am trying to look for a patch so you don't have to.
[10:15] <alkisg> calebH: thanks :)
[10:16] <steven__> How can I see what daemons I am running in the background from the command line?
[10:16] <grawity> steven__: ps -ef
[10:16] <calebH> alkisg: but I'm not sure where in the sequence to put it
[10:16] <peeps123> flyman...in the ubuntu pastebin I am asked for Poster ...Syntax...and Comment
[10:16] <soreau> marcellus: Then you need to update your system
[10:16] <shoss> flyman: thank you
[10:16] <amigamia> this is just so frustrating
[10:16] <grawity> peeps123: Poster - 'peeps123'. Syntax - 'plain'. Comment - empty.
[10:16] <alkisg> calebH: I think rc2 to rc5 are all the same for ubuntu... I'll try and see :)
[10:16] <wonderboy> HazeFaze:  thanks but it seems to be working only on laptop.. i don't have any battery here so there is no sense in "discharge time profile" etc..
[10:16] <marcellus> soreau: I found it now.
[10:16] <calebH> alkisg: just look at what else you have in there and pick a place for it - the scripts are executed in sequential order, so I'm sure you'll figure it out
[10:16] <peeps123> flyman sorry that should be Content
[10:16] <flyman> peeps123: poster would be your name and syntax don't worry about and comment is what your pasting
[10:17] <steven__> Are all those daemons?
[10:17] <steven__> Or just some?
[10:17] <Gratz474> a base ubuntu is 500 mb ?
[10:17] <calebH> alkisg: and make sure to put in a S and a K symlink so the process is killed at shutdown time
[10:17] <peeps123> what do I paste then?....excuse my ignorance
[10:17] <HazeFaze> wonderboy: maybe another tool is powertop
[10:18] <marcellus> soreau: can't say it made any difference though
[10:18] <flyman> peeps123: im not sure? Did you get an error of some sort during the process?
[10:18] <calebH> wonderboy: yes, powertop will definitely work
[10:18] <flyman> shoss: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/366200 that is our issue in a sense
[10:18] <peeps123> flyman I'll probably be hard work you kno
[10:18] <calebH> wonderboy: and it will give you suggestions of tweaks to make to reduce your power consumption
[10:18] <peeps123> flyman no
[10:18] <flyman> peeps123: good
[10:18] <soreau> marcellus: If your card has powermizer, this may also be an issue. Do things work better while you have Benchmark plugin running?
[10:18] <flyman> peeps123: ok, did it finish?
[10:18] <peeps123> just the page with what I typed earlier
[10:19] <gartral> hi all
[10:19] <peeps123> flyman no
[10:19] <andy17null> Hi I'm trying to set up a tf2 dedicated server. I'm running the commands in Step 1 on this page:  http://tr.im/zSsp Trying to execute './hldsupdatetool.bin' gives me '-bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory'
[10:19] <wonderboy> HazeFaze: yeah i just tried it.. it said "No ACPI power usage estimate available"
[10:19] <steven__> Where can I find a list of what all the background programs/daemons that come installed with Ubuntu do?
[10:20] <stanley> I'm having issues getting a development server running... http://pastebin.com/d7c45ef59
[10:20] <gartral> can i trn off my mobo-connected case fan with a command?
[10:20] <calebH> andy17null: if you type the 'ls' command, do you see that file name?
[10:20] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, im looking for a minimalist (so really simple but really quick at the same time cuz itz for a super-old laptop), liveCD, linux distro that can be runned from a USB pendrive and also installed on it... any suggestion? thanks
[10:20] <wonderboy> calebH: HazeFaze I just want a rough estimate on how much power a pentium-d 512mb ram would consume with the monitor off..,
[10:20] <peeps123> flyman all I get is three panels with, Poster Syntax and Coment
[10:20] <prince_jammys> andy17null: did you verify that the file is there?
[10:20] <darkedge> .....
[10:20] <andy17null> caleb: yes I do and I have already set it to +x
[10:20] <darkedge> Problems,
[10:21] <Pirate_Hunter> hi cant seem to scp to my other box but I can ssh to it, no clue what is going on there but could someoen help me figure it out?
[10:21] <darkedge> When I try installing Google Earth,
[10:21] <ShapeShifter499> I got a question, is this a bad idea?  (following done in order) Acer Aspire One+ubuntu 9.04 + addon, kubuntu, xubuntu, super os, ubuntu studio, crunchbang, freespire + upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 final(when its done and out for use)
[10:21] <flyman> shoss: it seems no easy way out so far. it seems with the next release it was fixed
[10:21] <prince_jammys> andy17null: are you on 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[10:21] <calebH> andy17null: try 'run' instead of './'
[10:21] <andy17null> 64 bit server edition
[10:21] <darkedge> It works, but freezes after the slpash screen
[10:21] <prince_jammys> andy17null: type: file <the nameof the file>
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  you mean insrtall all those extra desktops ontop of he normal ubuntu? or multi-boot?
[10:22] <flyman> peeps123: No need to use pastebin. Try rebooting your computer through so any updates can take complete effect. Shouldn't have future issues...
[10:22] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis: on to normal ubuntu
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  i dont see the need for crunchbang or freespire in the mix. ( no idea what super os even is)
[10:22] <andy17null> caleb: i get sudo: run: command not found
[10:22] <peeps123> flyman...OK hope to be back soon
[10:22] <andy17null> prince: i get hldsupdatetool.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[10:22] <RenatoSilva> Is it possible to list all packages that I installed myself (not was included by default)?
[10:22] <marcellus> soreau: no difference. I don't find the actions slow in themselves. Just the redrawing of windows when I move them around.
[10:22] <prince_jammys> andy17null: that's the prob.
[10:22] <flyman> peeps123: see you in a few moments
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  the more stuff ya got on - the more likely a 'upgrade' will fail, or have issues.
[10:22] <peeps123> and thank you very much
[10:23] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis: super os(AKA super ubuntu) is here -------> http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS
[10:23] <soreau> marcellus: I dont know what else to tell you than try a different verion of the nvidia blob
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  sounds like somthing i proberlyu dont need.
[10:23] <soreau> marcellus: (version of their driver)
[10:23] <flyman> shoss: Are you encountering any power issues?
[10:23] <andy17null> mm
[10:23] <andy17null> yeah
[10:23] <andy17null> i see
[10:23] <andy17null> ok i'll look around for a 64 bit version
[10:23] <andy17null> if I can't find it is there any workaround?
[10:24] <wonderboy> calebH: HazeFaze a bit of web search says like powertop and acpi aided measurement is primarily for laptop running on battery..
[10:24] <SharpRain> HELP ME
[10:24] <RenatoSilva>  Is it possible to list all packages that I installed myself (not was included by default)?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  looking at the site.. defainatly somthing i dont reall need.
[10:24] <koshari> how can i create my own web proxy with ubuntu?
[10:24] <wonderboy> i'll just check the smps label or something;-)
[10:24] <prince_jammys> andy17null: i don't know. mention this here and see if someone does.
[10:25] <Padhu> Pirate_Hunter: what about firewall?
[10:25] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis: do u know freespire irc channel? I couldn't get on the one noted on their site
[10:26] <wonderboy> anyway thanks HazeFaze calebH  see ya later..
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  freespire is the kind of thing i would suggest avoideing  :)
[10:26] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis: why?
[10:26] <Pirate_Hunter> hi cant seem to scp to my other box but I can ssh to it, no clue what is going on there but could someoen help me figure it out?
[10:26] <Pirate_Hunter> ps: im sure this is the correct syntax scp -P [port] -r [filename] user@....:[/]
[10:26] <calebH> prince_jammys: I'm not sure that is the problem for andy17null
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  ive not even heard much about it in ages.  and it was never that good in the first place..
[10:26] <andy17null> oh hey my executable was 32 bit on a 64 bit system
[10:26] <prince_jammys> calebH: why not?
[10:26] <darkedge> Is google earth freezing a common problem?
[10:26] <calebH> I'm running 64bit and I could run that tool, just fine
[10:26] <andy17null> ia32-libs allegedly will fix this
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  best bet to stick with the normal ubuntu and  install what apps you need.  and not jump around mixxing in 4+ different spinoffs
[10:27] <Pirate_Hunter> Padhu: on one of the boxes (the one i want to send to I turned off firewall still nada
[10:27] <calebH> maybe he needs the 32bit libs
[10:27] <calebH> andy17null: yup
[10:27] <andy17null> damn straight i did
[10:27] <andy17null> works like a charm
[10:27] <andy17null> ty all
[10:27] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis: ok
[10:28] <shoss> flyman: haven't encountered any power issues and there aren't any to my knowledge.
[10:28] <Padhu> Pirate_Hunter: Through Proxy server?
[10:28] <flyman> shoss: so other then the errors for acpi are you having any system issues?
[10:29] <TheTom> i've got a problem with unetbootin. the image is copied to another destination in /media. my usb device is /dev/sdb1 mounted @ /media/PKBACK but when I select /dev /sdb1 in unetbootin the files are copied to /media/PKBACK00432. why is this second location created, and how can I get passed this problem?
[10:29] <calebH> andy17null: enjoy
[10:29] <TheTom> can i just copy the files over, will it still be bootable?
[10:30] <shoss> flyman: I only main problem (ubuntu 9.04 amd64) is with the slow USB transfer rates, really, and I'm just going through all error msgs so maybe it will fix it..
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> TheTom:  perhaps Unmount the  thing first?
[10:30] <TheTom> Dr_Willis: before what? i've unmounted it several times, same thing happens
[10:31] <shoss> flyman: I gave up on trying to solve it directly been trying for a week
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> TheTom:  ive nevre had that issue with unetbootin here. - i do find the ubuntu usb-disk creator tool works better for me for Ubuntu disks.
[10:31] <shoss> flyman: i can't find any clear answers to that issue anywhere
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> TheTom:  unmount it and remove the /media/pkback directory perhaps?
[10:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Padhu: guess i aint awake yet the lan address was missing the third octave no clue how I didnt spot that after three attempts, wel using debug mode helped in the end :'s
[10:32] <TheTom> Dr_Willis: copied the files over now, it's loading the /ubninit now. maybe it'll work this time.
[10:32] <calebH> good night all
[10:32] <flyman> shoss try sudo lsusb -t
[10:32] <flyman> that will dump the physical usb device
[10:32] <flyman> hireachy
[10:32] <TheTom> nice, I see the eeebuntu logo now.
[10:33] <sambagirl> how can you tell your version
[10:33] <iwzw761> sambagirl: lsb_release -a
[10:33] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, im looking for a minimalist (so really simple but really quick at the same time cuz itz for a super-old laptop), liveCD, linux distro that can be runned from a USB pendrive and also installed on it... any suggestion? thanks
[10:33] <shoss> flyman: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/279411/
[10:34] <newproggie> hello
[10:34] <Lupo_Lanco> ?
[10:34] <newproggie> how can I find out with apt-get what version a package is?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  Puppylinux,TinyCorelinux, DSL,  and proberly a dozen others.
[10:34] <flyman> shoss now unmount the usb device
[10:34] <calebH> newproggie: aptitude show <package name>
[10:34] <rrva_> Argh, since I upgraded to use upstart in karmic, my machine will not boot properly. After running initrd to mount lvm disks, it justs hangs indefinitely. udevd is complaining before that. how to find out what is wrong?
[10:35] <Lupo_Lanco> I tried to run ./kurso3  and  I get some kind of error message linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb7fdc000)
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  and ive ran Ubuntu on a Pent I - 100 mhz laptop befor. :) it ran.. slowly.. but it ran
[10:35] <Lupo_Lanco> library problem
[10:35] <Araneidae> apt-cache show <package>
[10:35] <sambagirl> ciwzw761 Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog       5.04
[10:35] <sambagirl> Codename:       hoary
[10:35] <Lupo_Lanco> how do i get that library?
[10:35] <Lupo_Lanco> Araneidae:    thanks
[10:35] <shoss> flyman: unmounted
[10:35] <newproggie> calebH: Great, thanks
[10:35] <calebH> newproggie: you can learn a lot more about apt-get and/or aptitude by running "man aptitude" or "man apt-get"
[10:35] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: yeah i no, but i tried it already and this laptop really needz something light, so will i be able to boot puppylinux or dsl live from a usb?
[10:35] <iwzw761> sambagirl: very old, not supported anymore
[10:35] <newproggie> calebH: Is there a difference between apt and aptitude?
[10:36] <sambagirl> i know but it works
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> IpSe_DiXiT:  if that laptop can boot from usb.. yes
[10:36] <sambagirl> they sent me a whole box of cd';s for all platforms way back then
[10:36] <calebH> newproggie: I would also recommend using aptitude in place of apt-get.  Much more control
[10:36] <flyman> shoss ok unplug the device. now type sudo lsusb -t again and then plug the device back in
[10:36] <NickDeNeger> what is a nice tool to view systemlog tail to your background? I can't find it...
[10:36] <sambagirl> that was when bob2 and seveas worked here.
[10:37] <IpSe_DiXiT> Dr_Willis: ill just change the parameter from bios, i was asking if dsl, for example, runs as live
[10:37] <shoss> flyman: you need to see the 2nd output?
[10:37] <flyman> shoss: nope
[10:37] <Dhuski> Where, by which organisation, and for what purpose was Ubuntu created?
[10:37] <sambagirl> i cant get wubi to recognize 8.04.3 it is looking for 8.04.1
[10:37] <sambagirl> any ideas
[10:37] <newproggie> calebH: ok, but basically aptitude and apt-get is the same?
[10:38] <calebH> newproggie: yes, basically
[10:38] <RenatoSilva> how to list non-default installed software in synaptic?
[10:38] <Dhuski> sambagirl, Your wubi appears to simply be out of date, get a newer version.
[10:38] <sambagirl> dhuski i did but it doesnt see backwards
[10:38] <sambagirl> they are looking for 9
[10:38] <jez> Hi, how do I upgrade to the latest version of Mono on Ubuntu?  My Ubuntu came with Mono JIT compiler 2.0.1, which I don't think is latest.
[10:38] <balduin> hello
[10:38] <sambagirl> bbl
[10:38] <Dhuski> sambagirl, hmmm....does it give any specific errors?
[10:39] <Dhuski> Where, by which organisation, and for what purpose was Ubuntu created?
[10:39] <NickDeNeger> what is a good tool to view syslog tail to your background? I can't find any...
[10:39] <shoss> flyman: all done.. now what?
[10:39] <Nitrodist> jez, #mono
[10:39] <flyman> once plugged back in, make sure it auto-mounted and then test it out
[10:39] <sambagirl> dhuski sure it says it needs to download 8.04.1 but that is the wubi that was in the 8.04.3 iso directory
[10:39] <sambagirl> so go figure
[10:39] <sambagirl> cya
[10:40] <grawity> Dhuski: USA, Canonical Ltd., to <wikipedia> provide an up-to-date, stable operating system for the average user, with a strong focus on usability and ease-of-installation. </wikipedia>
[10:40] <Nitrodist> jez: http://www.mono-project.com/Other_Downloads
[10:40] <Dhuski> grawity, Thank you.
[10:40] <rrva_> ///////fsdlÃ¶dfkdslÃ¶kfslÃ¶
[10:41] <Dhuski> !spam > rrva
[10:41] <jez> Nitrodist: Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): 	 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:41] <jez> are you telling me the way to upgrade mono is to upgrade my whole os??
[10:41] <Nitrodist> jez: yes?
[10:41] <jez> i mean i have 9.04
[10:42] <Nitrodist> jez: read the entire page
[10:42] <jez> oh yeah
[10:42] <jez> heh
[10:42] <Nitrodist> jez: specifically, the 'Unofficial Backport Packages'
[10:42] <Prohibited> Are there any Ubuntu programs that let me connect to a Windows XP computer that is running VNC?
[10:42] <Nitrodist> jez: although that doesn't make sense, it's more like a forward port
[10:42] <shoss> flyman: you're a magician! thank you very much! transfer rates has remarkably improved and are much faster! thank you! is the issue fixed for me now or will i have to repeat this procedure with each drive inserted?
[10:42] <Dhuski> Prohibited, vncviewer should work fine
[10:43] <iwzw761> Prohibited: xtightvncviewer
[10:43] <Nitrodist> Prohibited, is it running vnc or remote desktop.
[10:43] <grawity> Prohibited: A lot. I think Ubuntu already comes with vino -- look for "Remote Desktop Viewer" in menus.
[10:43] <Prohibited> O_O
[10:43] <grawity> Nitrodist: He said VNC.
[10:43] <Prohibited> VNC
[10:43] <Nitrodist> grawity, for some people, remote desktop IS vnc
[10:43] <Prohibited> lol like 5 people replying
[10:43] <flyman> shoss: you should be good to go forever.
[10:43] <flyman> if not, remember to do that but shouldn't have an issue.
[10:44] <shoss> flyman: thank a lot
[10:44] <balduin> I have a problem with the onboard sound card on  the Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G mainboard. aplay lists the card, according to alsamixer all channels are unmuted and the snd_hda_intel module sis loaded properly. does anyone have further hints on what to check? I'm using 9.04
[10:44] <flyman> Welcome :)
[10:44] <flyman> Sorry for the delay.
[10:44] <Prohibited> if I try to connect to "<IP_ADDRESS>:5900" using the built-in vino program it doesn't actually connect.
[10:44] <Dhuski> balduin, what specifically is the problem??
[10:44] <stefg> !intelhda | balduin
[10:44] <calebH> Prohibited: vinagre
[10:44] <iwzw761> Prohibited: use :0 instead of :5900
[10:44] <grawity> (Note to self: vino is the server, vinagre is the client.)
[10:44] <balduin> oh sorry. problem is that i'm not getting any sound
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> Vino >hic< :)
[10:45] <balduin> ubottu: thanks, I'll have a look
[10:45] <iwzw761> Prohibited: the number behind the colon is the display number, not the port
[10:45] <calebH> LOL @ubottu
[10:45] <blixt> greets!  can not get firefox to play flash (youtube), and i am not interested in learning how to compile some code from some hard to find server...
[10:45] <Prohibited> Authentication method to host is unsupported
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> blixt:  did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package to install the flash player yet?
[10:45] <Prohibited> downloading the xtightvncviewer..
[10:46] <najjems> how would I know if my hardware is supported by the new kernel i'm compiling?
[10:46] <stefg> balduin: there's probably some quirk required in modules.conf to make the card function. see the HoTo page if it is listed there
[10:46] <calebH> Prohibited: which VNC server are you running on the Windows side?
[10:46] <xT|Fish> Hello lads, a mate of me has trouble finding the right video drivers for his: Ati Radeon 1200 512 MB VGA
[10:46] <stefg> !flash | blixt
[10:46] <blixt> Dr_Willis: think i tried that: is that: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-52
[10:47] <Prohibited> Enterprise v4.3.1
[10:47] <DTWS> hi
[10:47] <iwzw761> Prohibited: configure your vnc server so uses no proprietary extensions
[10:47] <calebH> Prohibited: VNC has very poor security by default.  Many VNC servers have implemented proprietary/non-standard authentication methods to help make them more secure
[10:47] <najjems> can anyone help me?
[10:47] <catfish> hi guys
[10:47] <DTWS> dolphin cant run as root how it fix
[10:47] <Nitrodist> xT|Fish, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=808583 <- from google
[10:47] <techie> !radeon | xT|Fish
[10:48] <grawity> DTWS: How about just not running it as root?
[10:48] <Prohibited> iwzw761: Er, how?
[10:48] <iwzw761> Prohibited: i don't know your vnc server
[10:48] <calebH> Prohibited: as iwzw761 suggested, try disabling any proprietary extensions (or disable the security/password settings altogether until you can at least establish a connection, then work on how to secure the connection...
[10:48] <Prohibited> :|
[10:48] <calebH> )
[10:48] <Prohibited> kk
[10:48] <catfish> i tried the the karmic
[10:48] <Dhuski> najjems, what seems to be the problem??
[10:48] <stefg> Prohibited: What keeps you from using the builtin RDP-Server on the windows box? There's tsclient/rdesktop to connect to it from a Linux desktop
[10:48] <iwzw761> Prohibited: and i don't use windows at all
[10:48] <DTWS> his write process Cannot talk to klauncher but konqueror work good
[10:49] <catfish> after a large update
[10:49] <catfish> i won't boot up anymore
[10:49] <DTWS> his problem begin whe make update
[10:49] <xT|Fish> Thanks Nitrodist and techie.
[10:49] <catfish> grup cannot find the root dev
[10:49] <oldude67> catfish, ubuntu+1
[10:50] <catfish> oldude67, ?
[10:50] <DTWS> i novice  in ubuntu
[10:50] <iwzw761> !karmic | catfish
[10:50] <najjems> oh, well i've been trying to compile a new kernel
[10:50] <oldude67> catfish, karmic is not released so its not supported here join #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <DTWS> please some tell what me to do now
[10:50] <catfish> alright
[10:50] <najjems> i'm on my third attempt
[10:51] <stefg> !kernel | najjems
[10:51] <shoss> flyman: although transfer speed has drastically improved I see there's still a problem when copying now to a flash drive (cruzer8gig) as speed is good at first but after few second goes as down as 4 MBps and stays slow until completing the transfer..
[10:52] <blixt> ubottu: strange, i did find the installer they refer to  (flashplugin_installer) via syn. pack. man, and i even restarted the box , so when i click the link on the page you sggested i get already installed
[10:52] <calebH> LOL @ubottu again...
[10:52] <stefg> shoss: Tat might be a physical limitation of the flash memory/controller on the thumb drive
[10:52] <blixt> i'l try to uninstall and install via the web-page instead
[10:52] <najjems> uhm, i'm getting confused. anyway, I've been having problems compiling on my laptop
[10:52] <SIGI> yo guys, has anyone ordered anything from the ubuntu store thing?
[10:52] <Dhuski> What's more effective aptitude or apt-get??
[10:53] <najjems> i've compiled a kernel before, in a computer at school
[10:53] <shoss> stefg: anyway to fix this?
[10:53] <Nitrodist> Dhuski, aren't they the same thing?
[10:53] <calebH> najjems: aptitude
[10:53] <stefg> shoss: Buy a newer and faster thumb drive ....
[10:53] <blixt> thnx!
[10:53] <najjems> anyway, bigpoppa told me that it may be because I lacking some patches that will support the kernel
[10:53] <najjems> i'm kinda lost there
[10:53] <Dhuski> Nitrodist, they seem to have a different output while both do the same job...
[10:53] <shoss> ok so as long as it's not the OS i'm all god :)
[10:54] <shoss> good*
[10:54] <Nitrodist> Dhuski, I know that sometimes they will conflict with each other.  apt-get wouldn't let me reinstall kdm or any packages associated with kdm until I used aptitude.
[10:54] <calebH> Dhuski: aptitude will tend to be more verbose, and offer more control to do things like install, remove, and/or purge packages in a single command
[10:54] <SIGI> I'm asking because i'm using a mail forwarding service, and i want to know if the store sends catalogs.
[10:55] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows if there's a php 5.3 package out somewhere for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[10:55] <calebH> Dhuski: you can learn quite a bit about the differences by reading the man pages for apt-get and aptitude
[10:55] <najjems> i'm following this set of instructions --> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[10:55] <Dhuski> calebH, Nitrodist, thanks guys
[10:56] <calebH> Prohibited: any luck?
[10:56] <stefg> shoss: and use some non-journalling file system on (cheap MLC) flash drives. Journalling contributes to the effect known as write amplification, i.e. the controller has to erase and rewrite large amounts of memory even if only 1 bit changes
[10:57] <calebH> bah, 3:00 AM!
[10:57] <shoss> stefg: properties say it's msdos filesystem
[10:57] <stefg> shoss: that'S prolly fat-16 or fat 32 ... ok
[10:58] <stefg> shoss: ok, unless you don't need unix'ish permissions on your files
[10:58] <shoss> stefg: are the FAT filesystems journaling file systems?
[10:59] <stefg> shoss: no
[10:59] <flyman> shoss: hm
[10:59] <Stracker> hello everyone
[10:59] <Prohibited> =o
[11:00] <jez> I'm trying to install packages on my system from https://launchpad.net/~directhex/+archive/monoxide
[11:01] <i2v8an> I think there's an easy trick to do that.
[11:01] <SIGI> thanks guys for the great support. c'ya
[11:01] <jez> I've added their PPA and auth key details to my system and updated my package list, but when i say 'sudo apt-get install mono', i get 'package mono has no installation candidate'
[11:01] <jez> they seem to be calling their package mono, so why is this?
[11:02] <jacquesdupontd> hey everbody
[11:02] <jacquesdupontd> im using compiz fusion and avant window navigator and im bored about putting effec to none to launch warsow before
[11:02] <stefg> jez: did you pick the wrong arch ? (e.g. 32bit instead of 64bit)
[11:02] <jackson> morning
[11:03] <jacquesdupontd> is there a command to place after warsow to disble the 3d ?
[11:03] <jez> stefg: there's only one archive given on that page...
[11:03] <jacquesdupontd> u think its about composite
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> jacquesdupontd:  you mean disable the 3d desktop - run the game.. reenable the 3d desktop stuff?
[11:04] <jacquesdupontd> yep
[11:04] <jacquesdupontd> i was used to do it before
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> jacquesdupontd:  metacity --replace  && game && compiz --replace
[11:04] <jacquesdupontd> just by an arg but can't remember
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> or similer.
[11:05] <jacquesdupontd> yeah but yeah.
[11:05] <jacquesdupontd> :)
[11:05] <jacquesdupontd> i don't think he will wait the game close for the compiz --replace
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> make a script that waits.. i guess..
[11:06] <Prohibited> firecrotch: hi lol
[11:06] <jacquesdupontd> i think and im quite sure there's anothey way by passing by warsow args
[11:06] <firecrotch> Prohibited: Oh hi! Did you need help with something?
[11:06] <ablmf> Why ubuntu lock "root" and use "sudo" to protect the system? Is there any detailed discussion?  Every time I type sudo in ubuntu, my colleagues laugh at me.  I argued "it's safter." but I am not so sure because we are programmers and we have to use "root" priority very often, so it doesn't make much different for me to root and non-root user.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> jacquesdupontd:  i wouldent think the GAME would have anything to do with disableing desktop features
[11:07] <jacquesdupontd> no but about launching it in another way i guess
[11:07] <i2v8an> (back to mono)  did this get fixed yet?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> ablmf:  i dont see why 'progamers' have to use 'root priorty' very often.. actually....
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> ablmf:  theres proberly forum threads/flamefests on the topic.
[11:07] <stefg> !root | ablmf
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> sudo has more usses then just 'a extra word you type to get root access'
[11:08] <i2v8an> sudo passwd root?
[11:08] <stefg> i2v8an: discouraged
[11:08] <ablmf> Dr_Willis: we have to install softwares, change system setting, and so on..
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> ablmf:  so disable  what you want then.
[11:09] <Terry> nintendo ds emulator for ubuntu?
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Terry:  i hear they exist.  but never tried one.
[11:09] <cgroza> hello,how do i make a tar arcive from terminal?
[11:10] <Prohibited> mm stuff thiS
[11:10] <cgroza> hello,how do i make a tar archive from terminal?
[11:10] <ablmf> ubottu: When I recommend ubuntu to one of my colleague, she feels very anoying to "sudo" and find out how to enable root again
[11:10] <i2v8an> stefg: huh?
[11:10] <firecrotch> ablmf: in general, the benefits of sudo outweigh the inconvenience for most users
[11:10] <iwzw761> cgroza: .tar or .tar.gz?
[11:10] <Prohibited> im just gonna use wine and install the windows version.
[11:10] <grawity> ablmf: There's sudo -s, you know
[11:10] <Terry> i have tried for windows not for ubuntu
[11:10] <firecrotch> Prohibited: no need for that
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> introduction to 'tar'  http://www.apl.jhu.edu/Misc/Unix-info/tar/tar_2.html
[11:10] <cgroza> iwzw761,tar
[11:10] <firecrotch> Prohibited: what is the error that you get?
[11:10] <steven__> What does it mean for Linux to be forkable?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> steven__:  you can branch off your own variant if you wanted
[11:11] <i2v8an> forkable: for instance linux mint is based off of ubuntu but with additions
[11:11] <Darkedge> In GNOME where are the apps on the "application" pannel located?
[11:11] <iwzw761> cgroza: tar cf file.tar directory   will create a new archive file.tar and stores contents of directory in it
[11:11] <steven__> My own variant? Like Kubuntu is to Ubuntu?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  the menus get defined by vasrios 'whatever.desktop' files in specific locations.. the  menus do not 'search' a speficic directory like it does in windows.
[11:12] <i2v8an> steven__: yeah that would go along with that idea
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> steven__:  you could make a Stevebuntu
[11:12] <balduin> stefg: just wanted to say that I fixed the sound problem. OSS is now working after I changed the model parameter to something more fitting
[11:12] <grawity> steven__: Not exactly... Kubuntu and Ubuntu are made by the same company. Mint to Ubuntu, or Ubuntu to Debian, would be more like that.
[11:12] <cgroza> iwzw761,i did that with a jpeg photo and the archive was about 400 mb
[11:12] <iwzw761> cgroza: tar does not compress
[11:12] <grawity> steven__: Stevelinux, if you want.
[11:12] <i2v8an> grawity: true that
[11:13] <cgroza> iwzw761,then how i compres?
[11:13] <iwzw761> cgroza: thats why i asked for .tar.gz
[11:13] <iwzw761> cgroza: tar czf file.tar.gz directory
[11:14] <cgroza> iwzw761,il try thanks
[11:15] <steven__> Stevelinux? I fear for the world...
[11:15] <roffe> is it the thought to replace synaptic and add/remove with the software center?
[11:16] <Darkedge> OK, Well fact is (Just as an example) I want to remove Pidgin from the "applications" menu, What do I delete?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:   use the menu editor and remove it - is the easy way
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> that removes it for that ONE user.. and it stays there via the command line if you need it
[11:16] <steven__> How can I view my syslog?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> or wannt to add it back
[11:16] <Darkedge> :/ Menu editor?
[11:17] <i2v8an> what if you uncheck it so that it just is invisible?
[11:17] <i2v8an> then if you need it later it's still there
[11:17] <firecrotch> Darkedge: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  yes. theres a menu editor - right click on the applocations menu  and look
[11:17] <stefg> Darkedge: you don't delete anything yourself, but keep you hands off of package managers business. Right-click instead on the Menu, choose edit an uncheck the boox before the menu-entry. it will be hidden tehn
[11:17] <steven__> How can I view my syslog?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  same place that windows put the  thing I think. :)
[11:18] <Gratz474> really liking ubuntu so far
[11:18] <Darkedge> :D Thanks,
[11:18] <Gratz474> for this server that is
[11:18] <firecrotch> steven__: less /var/log/syslog
[11:18] <Prohibited> =\
[11:19] <Darkedge> OK, I think I have some left over crap however I do not know where it is, Is there a program designed to remove un-needed stuff of the system?
[11:19] <Araneidae> Darkedge, the package manager should do that
[11:19] <i2v8an> sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:19] <i2v8an> miiiight get rid of somethings
[11:19] <Darkedge> :/ Package manager, What if I installed something of a .bin file?
[11:19] <Gratz474> what browser do you guys use?
[11:20] <Prohibited> I get the same error using VNC viewer (offical viewer under wine) as I do for the remote connection programs built-in ubuntu
[11:20] <firecrotch> Prohibited: Which is what?
[11:20] <Araneidae> Prohibited, I quite like vinagre for remote access
[11:21] <Darkedge> :O FOund it,
[11:21] <Darkedge> Guys,
[11:21] <Darkedge> Can you made sure I don't reinstall Ubuntu
[11:21] <Darkedge> You guys gotta tell me "ANYTHING is fixable!" OK?
[11:21] <Prohibited> firecrotch: (using Vinagre) Authentication method to host is unsupported
[11:21] <Araneidae> alas
[11:21] <Prohibited> Darkedge: ANYTHING is fixable
[11:21] <Hannibal_Lecter> hallo. i've a 5 mb file with lzma compression can anyone unpak and repack for me? thanks
[11:21] <Darkedge> xD Thanks
[11:21] <Araneidae> Darkedge, what are you running if not Ubuntu, then?
[11:22] <Prohibited> that'll be $5
[11:22] <firecrotch> Darkedge: I won't lie to you. ALMOST anything is fixable
[11:22] <Darkedge> If I say I'm gonna reinstall say that! OK?
[11:22] <Darkedge> xD
[11:22] <Prohibited> firecrotch: (using Vinagre) Authentication method to host is unsupported
[11:22] <stefg> Darkedge: the only way to ensure this is having a (positively proven and new) backup
[11:22] <Prohibited> :p
[11:22] <gargoyle__> hi
[11:22] <Araneidae> Yeah; lost backups are *not* fixable!
[11:22] <firecrotch> Prohibited: What vnc server are you using?
[11:22] <Darkedge> To be honest,
[11:23] <Prohibited> Enterprise 4.3.1 I think
[11:23] <Prohibited> I may switch to Personal and see if it fixes the problem
[11:23] <Araneidae> Can you configure it for password authentication only?
[11:23] <Darkedge> I HATE using 3rd-party software to create backups
[11:23] <i2v8an> Gratz474:  if you don't do much work with modifying your operating system you might find shiretoko (firefox-3.5) nice -- it doesn't have any gnome extensions
[11:23] <Araneidae> Use rsync then
[11:23] <Prohibited> Uh
[11:23] <Darkedge> Does Ubuntu have OFFICAL software that the ubuntu team made?
[11:23] <stefg> !backup | Darkedge
[11:24] <grawity> Darkedge: The installer is made by them, I guess.
[11:24] <Araneidae> There are a lot of Ubuntu patches in all the packages
[11:24] <firecrotch> Prohibited: Never heard of it. Is this a Windows or Linux host that youre trying to connect to?
[11:24] <Araneidae> Mostly trivia, is true
[11:24] <Prohibited> the host is running Windows XP
[11:24] <Araneidae> How is its VNC authentication configured?
[11:24] <firecrotch> Darkedge: Landscape is made by Canonical (the company behind Ubuntu)
[11:25] <Prohibited> at the moment, no password
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> that may be the issue.
[11:25] <Araneidae> hm..  So currently should just connect?  Huh
[11:25] <Prohibited> "No Authentication"
[11:25] <Prohibited> it *should* just connect
[11:25] <Araneidae> Yeah: try setting a password
[11:26] <Prohibited> one sec.
[11:26] <Araneidae> Maybe "no authentication" means "no way to authenticate" ;^)
[11:26] <Prohibited> done; attempting to connect.
[11:26] <cheeseoid> Any article about installing on a hw raid? Have a raid 0 set up but the installer only sees the 2 individual disks.
[11:27] <Prohibited> still unsupporteed
[11:27] <Araneidae> Can you telnet to port 5900 on the XP machine?
[11:27] <Darkedge> ANOTHER QUESTION: What apps should I install that don't come with Ubuntu E.G WINE, What else does everyone use in their daily lives?
[11:27] <Darkedge> :/
[11:28] <Darkedge> Thanks for the help, btw
[11:28] <firecrotch> cheeseoid: then your RAID 0 isn't set up :)
[11:28] <grawity> Darkedge: Install what _you_ need, not what others use.
[11:28] <Araneidae> Prohibited, does `nc -w1 <machine> 5902 </dev/null` produce anything?
[11:28] <stefg> cheeseoid: that'S probably because your mobo's controller isn't supported by dmraid. I'd go for proper softraid (mdadm) anyway
[11:28] <Prohibited> eh
[11:28] <Prohibited> lemme see
[11:28] <Darkedge> Well,
[11:28] <firecrotch> haha "proper softraid"
[11:28] <Araneidae> I get something like "RFB 003.xxx"
[11:28] <Darkedge> How can I know what's avalible for Ubuntu?
[11:29] <Hannibal_Lecter> hallo http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-494359.html i have this problem with a file
[11:29] <stefg> firecrotch: dmraid is improper softraid ;-)
[11:29] <Araneidae> Sorry, mean 5900
[11:29] <firecrotch> softraid is improper :)
[11:29] <Darkedge> WINE I didn't know about, I found a link somewhere,
[11:29] <cheeseoid> stefg: damn. Have been using it as a softraid but now installing ubuntu and wanted to use the hw controller.
[11:30] <stefg> cheeseoid: is that a dual-boot box, or will it be linux only?
[11:30] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$ `nc-w1 EXPIEREN-445F26 5902 </dev/ null`
[11:30] <Prohibited> Python error: <stdin> is a directory, cannot continue
[11:30] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$
[11:30] <cheeseoid> stefg: linux only
[11:30] <Prohibited> o.o
[11:30] <Araneidae> Prohibited, /dev/null, no space
[11:30] <stefg> cheeseoid: what kind of controller? Promise?
[11:30] <Araneidae> and put a space between nc and -w1
[11:30] <cheeseoid> my gentoo is messed up and i just dont have the time to maintain it anymore so installing ubuntu
[11:31] <siii> hi - im trying to run security updates on ubuntuu 8.10 ... but getting the following erros: http://pastie.org/private/awbawonnrv9x0f3emxf9g    how to resolve these issues?
[11:31] <Araneidae> it's a one, not an ell
[11:31] <cheeseoid> stefg: Via tech VT8237 Series SATA RAID
[11:31] <Araneidae> and use port 5900 !
[11:31] <Araneidae> So: `nc -w1 $MACHINE $PORT </dev/null`
[11:31] <Prohibited> didnt see where you corrected yourself lol
[11:31] <i2v8an> siii: check /etc/apt/sources.list for that deb entry
[11:32] <Prohibited> blink leading the blind :P
[11:32] <Araneidae> Yeah.  If it *doesn't* say RFB something then I'll be puzzled...
[11:32] <Araneidae> or even flummoxed!
[11:33] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$ `nc-w1 EXPIEREN-445F26 5900 </dev/null`
[11:33] <Prohibited> bash: nc-w1: command not found
[11:33] <siii> i2v8an: thanks, how does a deb entry look?
[11:33] <Araneidae> Grr: nc <space> -w1
[11:33] <i2v8an> deb http:// etc etc
[11:33] <stefg> cheeseoid: that's fake raid anyway... i wouldn't jump through the extra loops to get that going (no benefit at all) and just use an alternate install CD and use mdadm soft raid
[11:33] <Prohibited> o.o
[11:33] <Araneidae> heh
[11:33] <i2v8an> so you can check it by usind nano /etc/apt/source.list
[11:33] <i2v8an> each is a line containing an address to a debian repository
[11:33] <cheeseoid> stefg: Aww. Why "an alternate install CD"?
[11:34] <stefg> !alternate | cheeseoid
[11:34] <stefg> cheeseoid: the 'Desktop' Installer doesn't support setting up a raid array during installation
[11:34] <cheeseoid> Ah. Dont suppose this will make the mdadm setup pleasant will it? I remember it being a real pain when I first installed some years ago.
[11:34] <Araneidae> Prohibited, ?
[11:35] <Prohibited> Araneidae: Just renaming that laptop\
[11:35] <siii> i2v8an: cool thanks. I have a couple of deb entries
[11:35] <Prohibited> its name was something like EXPERIEN-RandNUMS
[11:35] <Prohibited> it'll be back up in 20 secs
[11:35] <i2v8an> yeah.  look for one which matches the error message
[11:35] <Prohibited> I can see it loggin in.
[11:35] <Araneidae> hum.
[11:35] <stefg> cheeseoid: the alternate installer does it for you ... BTW what'S so difficult in writing : sudo mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 ?
[11:36] <cheeseoid> stefg: Erm. Figuring out thats what needs writing ...  Use a proper partition scheme to parallelize acceses, and use lvm if you need storage space larger than what is on one single disk
[11:38] <sierinjs> what do i have to write to start ssh? (my friend has it, and i don't understand why doesn't he have it -- it say's it isn't there where i expected)
[11:38] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$ `nc wl DL-LAPTOP 5900 <dev/null`
[11:38] <Prohibited> bash: dev/null: No such file or directory
[11:38] <Prohibited> :S
[11:38] <Araneidae> sierinjs, do you mean the ssh server?
[11:38] <Araneidae> /dev/null
[11:39] <Araneidae> and -w1, not w1
[11:39] <Araneidae> and 1 not l
[11:39] <sierinjs> Araneidae: yes
[11:39] <Prohibited> they show up as the same thing when i copy/paste
[11:39] <Araneidae> sierinjs, it's a separate package
[11:39] <stanley> the only time you should be using raid0 is if it's for performance and it's non-critical data on the drives
[11:39] <sierinjs> Araneidae: it isn't there by default? :/
[11:39] <cheeseoid> stefg: Id really need a step by step guide for that. Ill google, but bet I wont turn one up!
[11:39] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$ `nc w1 DL-LAPTOP 5900 /dev/null`
[11:39] <Prohibited> invalid port LAPTOP
[11:39] <stanley> performance is the _only_ advantage to raid0
[11:40] <stefg> !lvm | cheeseoid
[11:40] <Araneidae> FFS Prohibited.  I keep telling you.  Here is the command line:
[11:40] <Araneidae> nc -w1 DL-LAPTOP 5900 </dev/null
[11:40] <Prohibited> >.>
[11:41] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$ nc -w1 DL-LAPTOP 5900 </dev/null
[11:41] <Prohibited> DL-LAPTOP [<IP_ADDRESS>] 5900 (?) : Connection timed out
[11:41] <Araneidae> Ok, so no VNC server there
[11:41] <Araneidae> Try 5901
[11:41] <Prohibited> my computer doesn't support loopback
[11:42] <Prohibited> same error for 5901/2
[11:42] <Araneidae> sierinjs, the package you want is openssh-server
[11:42] <das_steb> Hi There. Is the Ubuntu 9.04 live CD able to boot without mounting HDD? Can't boot the normal way because some I/O error on sda1
[11:42] <Araneidae> Ok.  Then your VNC port is unreachable
[11:42] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[11:42] <Prohibited> which means?
[11:42] <Araneidae> It could be that the firewall on DL-LAPTOP isn't letting you in
[11:42] <Prohibited> hm
[11:42] <Prohibited> lemme see
[11:42] <jacquesdupontd> what's the command i need if i want to launch warsow and have metacty replaced ? if i wanna put as an alias in .bashrc
[11:42]  * Araneidae tries not to know too much about Windows anymore
[11:43] <stefg> das_steb: the CD only mounts the hd when you tell it to
[11:43] <jacquesdupontd> alias "warsowcompiz"='metacity --replace && /usr/games/warsow --quiet' doesnt works
[11:43] <Prohibited> added ports to the firewall
[11:43] <das_steb> stefg: i boot the normal way and the CD want to mount the HDD
[11:43] <Araneidae> Great.  Try again...
[11:44] <Araneidae> think 5900 is the default port, but maybe I'm misremembering, mabye it's 5901
[11:44] <stefg> das_steb: probably it sees there's swap space... what happens then ?
[11:44] <Prohibited> 5900 is
[11:44] <Prohibited> I've checked on the program / I've used this program for windows before.
[11:45] <Prohibited> no change
[11:45] <Araneidae> oh
[11:45] <Araneidae> Now that is odd, and I think it's the root of your problem
[11:45] <Prohibited> if the program is having to connect externally that will be why it is erroring
[11:45] <Araneidae> If nc can't reach port 5900 then nor can any other vnc client
[11:45] <das_steb> stefg: it is an windows system, so i think there is no swap. i would try the "noswap" command
[11:45] <stefg> jacquesdupontd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=662926
[11:46] <Prohibited> there is no loop back on my router - i can't be sitting here connected to the router and connect to a website / anything hosted on my external IP, only via an internal IP
[11:46] <jacquesdupontd> thx
[11:46] <Prohibited> because that nc thing lists my external ip, that may be why it is erroring
[11:46] <Araneidae> Hmm.  Then try the nc test with localhost instead
[11:46] <Araneidae> So try: nc -w1 localhost 5900 </dev/null
[11:47] <Araneidae> But that's odd, don't really understand your configuration at all.
[11:47] <aksci> i've got two accounts on thunderbird,... how do i temporarily have it disabled(i.e stop receving new mails n all) without having it actually removed!
[11:47] <Prohibited> scott@scott-laptop:~$ nc -w1 <IP_ADDRESS> 5900 </dev/null
[11:47] <Prohibited> RFB 004.000
[11:47] <Prohibited> oh
[11:47] <FloodBot2> Prohibited: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <Araneidae> Aha!
[11:47] <Prohibited> if you want to see something confusing you should see my internet steup
[11:47] <Araneidae> FloodBot2, don't get excited
[11:48] <Prohibited> ADSL router, Wireless router, Switch, network printer
[11:48] <Prohibited> lol
[11:48] <Araneidae> Now you can probably use that 192.168 address with the vnc client of your choice
[11:49] <stefg> das_steb: is that a sata or an (old-style) ide system? AFAIK the Live CD does not mount the harddisk automatically (won't touch anything until you tell it to). Problem with broken harddisks is that they sometimes pill down the whole bus, so a CD as slave on the same IDE port won't work either
[11:49] <Prohibited> lets see..
[11:49] <Prohibited> *doubling checking the password I set
[11:49] <das_steb> stefg: out "noswap" to the bootline don't seem to work
[11:49] <Raphi974> Hi everyone
[11:49] <Prohibited> hi Dr Nick!
[11:49] <das_steb> stefg: it's an old IDE system
[11:50] <Araneidae> Prohibited, any joy?
[11:50] <Raphi974> I'm trying to upgrade to Karmic Alpha6, but no upgrades are detected... Why ?
[11:50] <Prohibited> not joy, man love!
[11:50] <das_steb> stefg: i tried to boot an other linux (DSL) an recieved only some ACPI errors
[11:50] <Prohibited> <3
[11:50] <stefg> das_steb: try rearranging drives on the bus ...the CD needs to be on a differetn port than the (probably broken) harddisk
[11:50] <Araneidae> woo :D
[11:50] <Prohibited> its working now! thanks :D
[11:51] <Araneidae> Guess we should have tried pinging to start with!
[11:51] <Prohibited> lol
[11:51] <Prohibited> ye
[11:51] <adante> hi, what is the easiest way to get a samba-like sharing (ie gnome/nautilus browsing) of 2 linux computers? (not samba - i want to be able to make symlinks etc)
[11:51] <greg__> hi
[11:51] <Prohibited> Good thing my IP is static.
[11:51] <Araneidae> nfs
[11:51] <firecrotch> Prohibited: you gotta be kidding me, it was a IP problem?
[11:51] <das_steb> stefg: it's an notebook, reaarange would be a complicated thing *g*
[11:51] <Araneidae> adante, you'll need to install nfs-server
[11:51] <stefg> !nfs | adante
[11:51] <Prohibited> *whistling
[11:51]  * Araneidae lols
[11:52] <Raphi974> Can someone help me with the upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic Alpha 6 ?
[11:52] <Prohibited> lart?
[11:52] <Araneidae> Um.  Raphi974, I'm sure if you need help, then it's a really bad idea!
[11:53] <Araneidae> My understanding of the alphas is that they *will* break
[11:53] <stefg> das_steb: so pull out the harddisk and use another computer for your rescueing attempts. you won't get anywhere if you have no drive to boot from (or maybe use a bootable USB thumb drive)
[11:53] <Raphi974> Araneidae, it's just that no upgrades are proposed.... why ? I never had problems with upgrades
[11:53] <Araneidae> Well, it's *not* an upgrade, yet, is it?
[11:53] <Araneidae> It's a breakage!
[11:53] <courpse> alpha aint anything to be upgraded to.
[11:53]  * Araneidae avoids alphas
[11:54] <jacquesdupontd> alias "warsowcompiz"='metacity --replace && /usr/games/warsow --quiet' doesnt works
[11:54] <courpse> It will cause you much hassle if you dont know what your doing.
[11:54] <das_steb> stefg: jep, i think this would be the best way. thanks for your help! i try an external case next week.
[11:54] <courpse> Raphi974, Alpha is pre-Beta.
[11:54] <Raphi974> courpse, I know
[11:54] <Amaranth> jacquesdupontd: What is wrong with running warsow while compiz is running?
[11:54] <firecrotch> Raphi974: how are you trying to do the upgrade?
[11:54] <jacquesdupontd> it freeze for me
[11:54] <Raphi974> courpse, i'm using ubuntu since 6.06... never had problems to upgrade
[11:54] <jacquesdupontd> dunno why
[11:55] <Araneidae> Raphi974, it's *NOT* an upgrade
[11:55] <Amaranth> jacquesdupontd: ah, probably fixed in karmic
[11:55] <Raphi974> firecrotch,  i tried "update-manager -d" and "do-release-update -d" but nothing...
[11:55] <i2v8an> Raphi974: you have not experienced upgrades like I did in 7.10 to 8.04
[11:55] <Raphi974> Araneidae, can't update to Karmic Alpha ?
[11:55] <Amaranth> Raphi974: #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <Araneidae> Well, expect you can install it ... if you look in the right place, re what Amaranth just said
[11:56] <jacquesdupontd> i donwnloaded compiz-witch
[11:56] <i2v8an> speaking of karmic how is the latest release?
[11:57] <jacquesdupontd> and i putted 'compiz-swith && /usr/games/warsow --quiet' and it works then when i quit i have to launch compiz-switch shortcut and all is back
[11:57] <jacquesdupontd> and its launching perfectly warsow
[11:57] <jacquesdupontd> thx for trying to help
[11:57] <firecrotch> Raphi974: Ok, if I were having the same problem and felt like messing around, I would edit my sources.list, changing jaunty to karmic everywhere, and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. Be warned however that this will probably break everything, especially GRUB, considering that Karmic uses GRUB2
[11:57] <Araneidae> Gosh: 9.10 *is* offered as an upgrade.  Scary
[11:57] <jacquesdupontd> btw when is karmic final out ?
[11:57] <Amaranth> !karmic | jacquesdupontd
[11:58] <Raphi974> firecrotch, that's the way i don't wanna try....
[11:58] <jacquesdupontd> great
[11:58] <i2v8an> editing the sources.list isn't sooo happy for this upgrade
[11:58] <Araneidae> `update-manager -c -d` offers it
[11:58] <Amaranth> jacquesdupontd: beta release is in a couple days
[11:58] <i2v8an> I tried it a few weeks back
[11:58] <jacquesdupontd> Amaranth, can you tell me few new features or upgrades interesting ?
[11:58] <Amaranth> jacquesdupontd: new compiz? :)
[11:58] <jacquesdupontd> really ?
[11:58] <jacquesdupontd> :)
[11:59] <unimatrix> Amaranth: what's new about it? i'm on karmic and can't see any difference
[11:59] <firecrotch> Raphi974: Well, if you're feeling especially adventurous, I would say to go for it
[11:59] <jacquesdupontd> settings for compiz must  have been implanted more easily i hope we can customise from the beginning
[11:59] <Amaranth> unimatrix: just fixing bugs
[11:59] <firecrotch> Raphi974: Like I said though, it'll probably break EVERYTHING
[12:00] <i2v8an> unimatrix: there's some cool subtle things
[12:00] <Raphi974> firecrotch, i'm not that adventurous
[12:00] <jacquesdupontd> Amaranth, you've seen my command do you think i could tell in the command to relaunche compiz-switch after warsow is closed
[12:00] <firecrotch> Not that it wouldn't be possible to resolve all the breakage, but that's definitely best left to the experts
[12:00] <Raphi974> It's ok, it works now
[12:00] <unimatrix> i2v8an: like what? i'm eager to try them out :D
[12:00] <jacquesdupontd> and i putted 'compiz-swith && /usr/games/warsow --quiet'
[12:01] <firecrotch> Raphi974: Now you've got me wanting to do it just to try it out
[12:01] <firecrotch> see how badly I can break things
[12:01] <Raphi974> firecrotch, that was the point :p
[12:01] <i2v8an> firecrotch: it's easier to just do individual package installs from karmic
[12:01] <Amaranth> jacquesdupontd: sure
[12:01] <Raphi974> but update-manager -c -d works now
[12:01] <jacquesdupontd> Amaranth, tell me what should be the command
[12:02] <i2v8an> once I upgraded all at just the way you described and it kind of got stuck in a bad in between spot
[12:02] <Amaranth> jacquesdupontd: just compiz &
[12:02] <i2v8an> unimatrix: for startes intel graphics support
[12:02] <jacquesdupontd> i would like a sort of 'compizswitch && /usr/games/warsow --quiet &&when warsow is closed && compizswitch'
[12:02] <Raphi974> i2v8an, that's why i want to try it
[12:03] <Amaranth> unimatrix: oh yeah, huge improvements to the ati and intel drivers. nvidia is still bad though
[12:03] <jacquesdupontd> you didn't understood me
[12:03] <i2v8an> me being an intel graphics user I actually depend on the 2.6.31-9 kernel
[12:03] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: metacity --replace && /usr/games/warsow --quiet && while pidof warsow &> /dev/null; do sleep 1; done && compiz --replace
[12:03] <jacquesdupontd> i want compizswitch to be launched after warsow's closed
[12:03] <Raphi974> i2v8an, what distro ?
[12:03] <Aalinux> /dev/hda7        /media/sda7      vfat        users,exec,rw,auto         0   0  ,   Is it ok to copy, cut paste ?
[12:03] <jacquesdupontd> perfect
[12:03] <unimatrix> Amaranth, i2v8an: the "Reflection" effect still gets drawn on the window shadows, i wish they would fix that already
[12:03] <i2v8an> ubuntu 9.04
[12:03] <jacquesdupontd> Gravity thx
[12:03] <jacquesdupontd> gonna trye
[12:04] <Raphi974> i2v8an, so you installed the 2.6.31 kernel.... any improvment in Intel support ?
[12:04] <Mohammad[B]> how i can make a user to root ? (cans use of sudo and su command) please help me
[12:04] <i2v8an> and I wanted firefox 3.5 that was actually called 3.5 not shiretoko so I upgraded a ton of things by changing the jaunty to karmic in the /etc/apt/source.list
[12:04] <grawity> Mohammad[B]: sudo -s
[12:04] <Amaranth> unimatrix: is there a bug filed? :)
[12:04] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: But I really think this would be enough:  metacity --replace && /usr/games/warsow --quiet && compiz --replace
[12:04] <Mohammad[B]> grawity, how set root to a user for using of this command ?
[12:05] <i2v8an> unitmatrix: what version of the alpha is this?
[12:05] <Aalinux> Mohammad[B]: You have to edit /etc/sudoers file.
[12:05] <Amaranth> unimatrix: I'd test it but turning on reflection locks up my GPU (bug filed with everything needed to fix though)
[12:05] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, believe me, doesn't works
[12:05] <unimatrix> i2v8an: dunno, alpha5 or sth?
[12:05] <Aalinux> !sudoers Mohammad[B]
[12:05] <jacquesdupontd> dunno why maybe cause of emerald
[12:05] <Aalinux> !sudoers
[12:06] <Aalinux> !sudo
[12:06] <unimatrix> Amaranth: it seems that this bug hasn't been filed yet, that's surprising because it's rather obvious
[12:06] <Amaranth> unimatrix: it doesn't get much use
[12:06] <i2v8an> oy,  now you guys got me downloading the alpha again. lol
[12:06] <Mohammad[B]> Aalinux, this hasn'
[12:06] <Mohammad[B]> sorry
[12:06] <Amaranth> i2v8an: better to download a daily snapshot and to go to #ubuntu+1 :)
[12:07] <Mohammad[B]> Aalinux, this haven't any command ?
[12:07] <i2v8an> ah nice
[12:07] <i2v8an> I could see that as being useful
[12:07] <i2v8an> I only have one machines right now so I'm a little wary to install grub 2 to the mbr
[12:08] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, why my alias warsowcompiz i just made doesn't works in shortcut taskbar menu ?
[12:08] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, should be relaunched ?
[12:08] <adante> hi, i'm trying to make an nfs share, is there something wrong with this entry?
[12:08] <JonathanEllis> My /tmp directory is getting cluttered. Is it safe to set my machine to empty /tmp on shutdown?
[12:09] <umut> looking help about GTK+
[12:09] <grawity> JonathanEllis: Isn't that done automatically?
[12:09] <i2v8an> it should be? everyone else?
[12:09] <adante>  /home <IP_ADDRESS>/255/255/255.0(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[12:09] <stefg> i2v8an: that's why my karmic testing machine lives inside virtualbox only... i want to see grub2 really working before i let it onto my mbr
[12:09] <adante> i have that in /etc/exports, run exportfs -ra, restart portman and nfs-kernel-server, and then on client try to mount and it says denied
[12:10] <tew> who on line
[12:10] <grom72> that's good: karmic testing machine
[12:10] <unimatrix> i wish bugzilla had OpenID support
[12:10] <stefg> adante: the remote client needs an account on the server
[12:10] <JonathanEllis> grawity: Dont know. Where would I find that option?
[12:10] <Aalinux> Mohammad[B]: http://www.go2linux.org/sudoers-how-to
[12:10] <grawity> JonathanEllis: Actually, it's done on boot, if I remember correctly.
[12:10] <jacquesdupontd> grawity why alias doesnt works in shortcuts of gnome ?
[12:10] <jacquesdupontd> only works in terminal
[12:10] <sheldon> hi
[12:11] <Aalinux> Mohammad[B]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[12:11] <JonathanEllis> grawity: How would I check this?
[12:11] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, btw it works perfectly thanks
[12:11] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Make a shell script instead.
[12:11] <i2v8an> stefg: yeeaeh I was impatient lol
[12:12] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Aliases are built in to bash, they don't work outside it.
[12:12] <adante> stefg: where do i specify this?
[12:12] <jacquesdupontd> could you explain me how to do it ?
[12:12] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Basically, open text editor, write #!/bin/bash to the first line, then put my previous command, and save as "runwarsaw".
[12:12] <stefg> adante: just add the user that is on your remote machine on the server, too.
[12:12] <jacquesdupontd> i create an empty file, i put the commands inside just like that ?
[12:12] <jacquesdupontd> i put the command with the ' ' ?
[12:13] <adante> stefg: i already have, inasmuch as my client username exists on both client and server
[12:13] <stefg> adante: do they have the same UID and password ?
[12:13] <adante> stefg: although i am mounting as root, because it will not lot let me mount as user
[12:14] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: http://sprunge.us/LiKc
[12:14] <stefg> adante: nfs and mount as root has special implications ....
[12:14] <umut> hi all, I've written a simple gui with pygtk, and now wondering how to adapt it for windows and osx platforms.
[12:14] <adante> stefg: yes they do, it turns out
[12:14] <adante> stefg: hm, how can i just mount an nfs share as a user
[12:15] <peeps123> flyman
[12:15] <adante> i was hoping the nfs howto would tell me... how to
[12:15] <stefg> adante: make yourself member of the 'fuse' and 'disk' group
[12:15] <jill> hi, anyone can help me fix my sceen? i got a problem with my screen, i cant view the buttom panel no matter what screen resolution i used... anyone can help/ im using ubuntu jaunty and a redfox wizbook
[12:15] <stefg> !fixres | jill
[12:16] <JonathanEllis> grawity: I have just rebooted and /tmp has not been emptied. Would it be dangerous to set it up to do that
[12:16] <adante> after adding myself to a group how can i have those permissions applied? do i need to restart?
[12:17] <stefg> adante: and enter the nfs-share in /etc/fstab with option 'user' . then you can mount the pre-defined share as user
[12:17] <adante> stefg: i don't want an /etc/fstab entry i just want to mount from command line
[12:18] <peeps123> can someone tell me what this means, I get it at boot-up [0.220001] ..MP-Bios Bug : 8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC
[12:18] <adante> actually i'd like to mount dynamically using gnome/nautilus in samba style but that is an experiment for when i have another 40 hours spare :]
[12:18] <JonathanEllis> grawity: Actually I say it has not been emptied. It is more correct to say it is not empty, but I notice one file that was there has gone so maybe it was emptied and the other files have been newly written. I just checked the dates on the files and they are all after the reboot
[12:19] <stefg> adante: without fstab entry you need to be root. check the mount options for nfs how to specify that (although you're running as root) the user/pass credentials
[12:20] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, doesn't works :(
[12:20] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Ah, forgot to chmod +x the script.
[12:20] <jacquesdupontd> that's it
[12:20] <jacquesdupontd> i can i do it by the graphic way ?
[12:21] <jacquesdupontd> i can modify folders in root folders by passing by gnome, in a way giving him my password and tell the explorer i'm the administrator
[12:22] <adante> lol
[12:22] <adante> man mount refers to nfs.5 which doesn't exist... how can i install this? nfs-common is installed
[12:22] <njbair> In F-Spot when I go to choose a photo to use as a tag's icon, I can only pick from some of the photos with that tag. Is this a known bug?
[12:22] <i2v8an> has anyone here ever successfully done a boot into ram from an HD install?
[12:23] <stefg> adante: i just found out that you'll need the anonuid=**** and anongid=**** parameters
[12:24] <jacquesdupontd> Grawityn thx everything is working perfectly
[12:24] <jacquesdupontd> see ya
[12:25] <adante> stefg: hm, where can i read about this? that sounds like anonymous access? i want user access to my /home/adante dir on server
[12:25] <stefg> adante: http://linux.die.net/man/5/exports
[12:26] <njbair> adante: what is your issue? I just joined
[12:26] <skysong> hey guys, is there a way to unmount a drive despite it being busy?
[12:26] <adante> pjm0616: i want to mount an nfs share, heh
[12:27] <i2v8an> also interested in this unmount for ALL situations
[12:27] <skysong> anyone?
[12:27] <njbair> pull it out
[12:27] <skysong> it won't come..
[12:27] <adante> stefg: so sudo mount -o nonuid=1000 veer:/home/adante mnt/veerhome = mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified
[12:27] <i2v8an> seriously?  what about a file that's mounted?
[12:27] <adante> sorry, that was ANONuid
[12:27] <skysong> im installing age of mythology through wine and i need to open the drive for my second disk:/
[12:28] <jrib> !appdb | skysong
[12:28] <guntbert> adante: -o uid=1000.....
[12:28] <jrib> skysong: are you following instructions there?
[12:28] <i2v8an> skysong: what about setting up a second drive in winecfg?
[12:28] <skysong> hmm
[12:28] <skysong> lemme see
[12:28] <njbair> skysong: try making iso's and using those.
[12:28] <adante> guntbert: same error - is this documented in nfs mount? or is this a general option?
[12:29] <adante> i thought uid was for local
[12:29] <skysong> njbair, i tried, but i can't unmount the iso to open the second one
[12:29] <stefg> adante: the way i did it was having a /media/nfs dir, and an entry in /etc/fstab with noauto,user. nothing gets mounted by default, but if i want something from the server, i just go 'mount /media/nfs' ... icon on desktop, drive accessible, mission accomplished
[12:30] <guntbert> adante: that part = mount.nfs is superflulous too
[12:30] <stefg> that'S part of the error
[12:31] <adante> guntbert: that's great, of course it is not me who is saying that
[12:31] <JonathanEllis1> In order to test something I just upgraded a package using a partner repository. Now I want to remove that repository and roll back to the previous version of the package. Is there an opposite to apt-get upgrade?
[12:31] <guntbert> adante: sorry then - I gotta go :-(
[12:32] <adante> stefg: hmm, i guess i will try that
[12:32] <adante> although i'm curious as to why the settingupnfshowto talks about using 'sudo mount' when it is clearly 999x more complex than the one line of documentation it provides
[12:34] <unimatrix> Amaranth, i2v8an: vote away: http://bugs.opencompositing.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207
[12:35] <stefg> adante: because 40 years of unix hde behind it ... :-)
[12:36] <Amaranth> unimatrix: well I'm a developer so...
[12:37] <sman> hello, unetbootin does not work, it complains of blkid not found suggests to install e2fsprogs. I have this installed
[12:37] <unimatrix> Amaranth: even better :)
[12:37] <Amaranth> unimatrix: Does this only happen with emerald?
[12:38] <unimatrix> Amaranth: it doesn't matter what decorator you use
[12:38] <Amaranth> unimatrix: alright
[12:38] <jimbeam12> hey all
[12:38] <Amaranth> unimatrix: emerald bugs are pretty much WONTFIX at this point
[12:38] <unimatrix> Amaranth: i know, that's why i'm not using emerald
[12:38] <sman> what should I do?
[12:39] <sman> I want to install ubuntu. I wish to copy an ubuntu iso over to my usb pendrive, since my EEEPC doesn't have a cd drive
[12:39] <stefg> sman: sudo updatedb && locate blkid
[12:40] <grawity> stefg: I think Ubuntu uses vol_id instead?
[12:40] <stefg> grawity: let's see ...
[12:40] <Amaranth> grawity: Not in some time
[12:40] <sman> stefg: stefg I'm not using ubuntu right now
[12:40] <sman> /lib/libblkid.so.1
[12:40] <sman> /lib/libblkid.so.1.1.0
[12:40] <sman> (result of   locate blkid)
[12:41] <Amaranth> sman: Are you using some form of linux?
[12:41] <sman> Amaranth: yes
[12:41] <nathan7266> quit
[12:41] <sman> Amaranth: archlinux
[12:41] <Amaranth> sman: try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:41] <sman> Amaranth: I am.
[12:42] <Amaranth> sman: oh, whoops, missed the first line :)
[12:42] <Amaranth> sman: In Ubuntu anyway blkid is in util-linux
[12:43] <Amaranth> sman: You may need to ask in #archlinux for finding it in arch
[12:43] <grawity> Amaranth: So vol_id is being replaced with blkid, or the other way?
[12:43] <Amaranth> grawity: first one
[12:43] <grawity> Anyway, in Arch, blkid is /sbin/blkid
[12:43] <Amaranth> grawity: Should be for every distro that uses it :)
[12:43] <sman> grawity: not finding it
[12:43] <stefg> sman: it might be easier if you run a ubuntu Live CD for creating the bootable USB stick
[12:44] <sman> maybe my updatedb path is wrong?
[12:44] <Amaranth> stefg: Ah, yeah, there is a menu option
[12:44] <makmum> hallo,..
[12:44] <sman> stefg: don't have a spare cd to hand
[12:44] <Amaranth> sman: Does /sbin/blkid exist?
[12:44] <grawity> insanity ~/build/remctl | pacman -Qo /sbin/blkid
[12:44] <grawity> /sbin/blkid is owned by util-linux-ng 2.16-1
[12:44] <sman> Amaranth: no
[12:45] <makmum> i gote a noe "Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again. If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in `configure.ac', make sure  its definition is in aclocal's search path.cal" how to resolve it?
[12:45] <Amaranth> makmum: Is libtool installed?
[12:46] <Amaranth> makmum: install the build-essential package
[12:46] <makmum> i dont know. but build-essential is already installed
[12:47] <sman> grawity: hmm yeah I installed util-linux-ng (it said already installed... but what the hey), and now locate finds it in /sbin/blkid
[12:47] <jrib> makmum: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[12:47] <sman> grawity: (and 10 or so more other places)
[12:47] <sman> this is unnerving
[12:47] <Amaranth> makmum: sounds like a broken project
[12:48] <St0rmMolest> How can I downgrade to firefox 2 in 8.10?
[12:48] <makmum> jrib, i want to install via chrome driver
[12:49] <Nitrodist> St0rmMolest, don't use firefox 2
[12:49] <Nitrodist> it's not maintained anymore
[12:51] <sman> blergh unetbootin STILL doesn't work -_-
[12:51] <St0rmMolest> firefox 3 is too slow
[12:51] <sman> p.o.s
[12:53] <sman> windows is the only option
[12:54] <stefg> sman: it's not too hard to do the tweaking by hand to make a bootable USB-Stick. Actually after making it bootable and installing syslinux all it takes is some renaming of files from isolinux* to syslinux*
[12:55] <sman> stefg: yeah I followed the ubuntu USB howto wiki
[12:55] <sman> stefg: but there's no help on how to copy over everything
[12:55] <chazco> Does anyone know if the touchscreen crash problem has been fixed in the next version of Ubuntu?
[12:55] <sman> stefg: I get "Not enough permission to copy symlink ..."
[12:55] <sman> or simimlar
[12:55] <n8tuser> St0rmMolest -> look into running firefox from tmpfs
[12:56] <sman> stefg: any help?
[12:57] <syslq78> I somehow deleted key for security.ubuntu.com how can I get it?
[12:57] <stefg> sman: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/ubuntu.iso /some/mountpoint ... then cp -ar /some/mountpoint /dev/your_thumbdrive
[12:58] <grawity> syslq78: What key, from where?
[12:58] <CalebgambTheAwes> hi
[12:58] <Erlich92> люди здесь на русском кто нить шпрехает??
[12:58] <coldjack> hello i installed windows 7 after i installed ubuntu on the same pc. But now if i want start my windows stuff windows startes only with the main memorry tool
[12:59] <grawity> !ru | Erlich92
[12:59] <syslq78> grawity, key I need to use aptitude update
[12:59] <syslq78> apt-key
[12:59] <CalebgambTheAwes> i haz question
[12:59] <sman> stefg: it should really be on the wiki :(
[12:59] <sman> although I could have just read man cp
[13:00] <coldjack> can anybody  help me with my grub list
[13:00] <sman> stefg: ah here we go "cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/fl/cd/dists/stable': Operation not permitted"
[13:00] <coldjack> menu.lst
[13:01] <Erlich92> Who used ultimate edition of ubuntu
[13:01] <sman> stefg: cp -ar /media/loopcd /media/pendrive  did not work!
[13:02] <sman> well it was infact sudo cp -ar
[13:02] <coldjack> http://pastebin.com/m3fc00449
[13:02]  * stefg asks himself how a symlink can exist on a iso9660 of fat filesystem ...
[13:03] <sman> dunno
[13:03] <grawity> stefg: Cannot, they don't support symlinks.
[13:03] <Erlich92> why when i type root in terminal system ask to install root&&&
[13:03] <Erlich92> why when i type root in terminal system ask to install root&&&
[13:04] <Erlich92> why when i type root in terminal system ask to install root????
[13:04] <Erlich92> why when i type root in terminal system ask to install root&&&
[13:04] <Erlich92> why when i type root in terminal system ask to install root&&&
[13:04] <FloodBot2> Erlich92: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <scizzo-> Erlich92: stop spamming!
[13:04] <Erlich92> hey gyus why when i type root in terminal system ask to install root&&&
[13:05] <Erlich92>  :@
[13:05] <sman> stefg: it takes a while to get to the "cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/pendrive/cd/dists/stable': Operation not permitted" message, as if it had been copying stuff
[13:05] <scizzo-> Erlich92: the command does not exist.....root is not a command its a user...the user is turned off by default in Ubuntu so you will have to use sudo for your tasks
[13:05] <scizzo-> !sudo | Erlich92
[13:05] <_ps_> I have Ubuntu in my laptop, is there any way to install windows now?
[13:05] <stefg> grawity, sman: exactly. in fact these are zero byte files on the iso-image, so they are just flags
[13:05] <sman> stefg: should I just ignore them then?
[13:06] <stefg> sman: ot recreate them by touch /media/pendrive/dists/stable
[13:06] <Erlich92> scizzo but i have Ubuntu based distributive
[13:06] <_ps_> hello? anyone knows?
[13:07] <scizzo-> Erlich92: ? not following
[13:07] <janhaj> Hello.. i install tv tuner to pc and see this: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6273/snmekobrazovkynovacinem.png . But in a normal TV is all ok. How to fix it?
[13:07] <sman> stefg: ok.
[13:07] <scizzo-> _ps_: it will override the grub and mbr stuff
[13:07] <grawity> _ps_: Boot from the Ubuntu CD. Use 'gparted' to make some free space for the Windows partition.
[13:07] <Erlich92> where i can find root terminal&&&
[13:07] <sman> stefg: booting from it now... fingers crossed
[13:07] <grawity> _ps_: And have a good 'grub recovery' tutorial handy.
[13:07] <scizzo-> Erlich92: did you go to the link?
[13:07] <grawity> Erlich92: sudo -s
[13:08] <scizzo-> Erlich92: and did you actually read it?
[13:08] <nikki93> I have an application I'm developing on Linux, but I want to test it under Windows periodically. I have a dev environment set up on my Windows parition (dual boot), is it possible to boot into it through a VM and then compile the app there (after a 'git pull')? Dual booting is getting boring...
[13:09] <_ps_> ok ill try
[13:10] <grawity> nikki93: Booting an existing Windows installation in a VM probably won't work due to the Windows' Activation things...
[13:11] <stefg> nikki93: possible but quite dangerous (involves maintaining 'hardware profiles' in windows. there are several guides out on the net for that, but i'd rather make a dedicated win-install to the virtualizer (recommending virtualbox)
[13:11] <bluespace>  anyone has same problem? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596498
[13:12] <Unregistered>  http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:12] <Unregistered> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:12] <Unregistered> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:12] <FloodBot2> Unregistered: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <grawity> nikki93: Btw, it's often possible to build Windows applications on Linux.
[13:12] <grawity> Unregistered: No, thanks.
[13:12] <nikki93> stefg: I see. But if I install again I have to install all the dev environment stuff, including the dependencies etc. It's a game.
[13:12] <nikki93> grawity: Yeah, but it's hard for this program, easy for simpler programs. For this one I have to do it for all the dependencies..
[13:13] <shoss> USB transfer rate to a flash drive (sandisk cruzer8gig) is still very low. after starting relatively fast with a file of 700MB it's now down to 1.5MB/ps
[13:13] <shoss> this never happened on vista so it must be ubuntu's fault
[13:14] <nikki93> stefg: Is it possible to 'start off' from the existing partition install, but keep it seperate after that? Kind of like symlink vs. copy..
[13:14] <Unregistered> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:14] <stefg> nikki93: you might be lucky and be able to take a backup of the windows system with something like Acronis True Image. Restore it to the virtual machine and see, if windowes manages to adapt itself to the 'hardware'
[13:14] <hoover> Help me, I'm stoopid ;-)
[13:14] <hoover> Hello folks
[13:14] <jlgshk> ubuntu-es ???
[13:14] <hoover> how does one generate the .xml file from a .glade definition?
[13:14] <sivy_> c.pl
[13:14] <hoover> for a python script
[13:14] <jlgshk> #ubuntu-es
[13:15] <grawity> jlgshk: Type /join #ubuntu-es
[13:15] <hoover> I did it in June, but I cannot remember how to generate the xml file 8-P
[13:15] <nikki93> stefg: So, is it possible to use the existing install as a 'starting point', but that's it?
[13:15] <arand> Each time I run dpkg-reconfigure (and hence also everytime I insytall something through apt-get) I get this message here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/279532/ How can I fix it?
[13:15] <janhaj> Hello.. i install tv tuner to pc and see this: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6273/snmekobrazovkynovacinem.png . But in a normal TV is all ok. How to fix it?
[13:17] <stefg> nikki93: make the distinction between 'possible' and 'wise'/'advisable'. windows virtualization support is beyond the scope of this channel, but as always: google is your (nosy) friend..
[13:18] <Rabbitbunny> stefg: Hilarious.
[13:18] <error404notfound> icons that appear on the title bar of every windows has gone missing, this is for all applications
[13:19] <error404notfound> anyone?
[13:20] <black> hi all
[13:20] <black> ?
[13:20] <nikki93> stefg: Ok.
[13:20] <rsk> black: please not all
[13:20] <makmum> what cause fault so the message "automake failed with exit status: 1" is showing?
[13:20] <rsk> black: that would be a very big response
[13:20] <black> ok :$
[13:20] <nikki93> stefg: I've googled a lot, I thought advice helps. :P
[13:21] <black> :)
[13:22] <twan_vd_p> guys, can anyone help me out with this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8014689#post8014689 ?
[13:22] <DCEmu_user15> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:22] <DCEmu_user15> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:22] <mishu> Hello, i cannot install /home/mishu/Desktop/python-gnome2-extras_2.19.1-0ubuntu11_i386.deb on ubuntu intrepid. The "Install package" button is inacitve. I've satisfied all dependencies, and the Status is blank. Help?
[13:23] <black> what thes ? http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:23] <joaopinto> mishu, trying install it from the terminal: sudo gdebi package.deb
[13:23] <cg--> any sound experts around?
[13:23] <stefg> nikki93: just think of what will physically happen when you take a snapshot of a vm. all incremental writes go to a different snapshot now .... now you boot win as a physical machine, not knowing anything about an incremental snapshot... it happily writes on the physical partition... no you're going to dismiss the snapshop .. Uhoh... filesystem is toast
[13:24] <mishu> joaopinto: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[13:24] <_ps_> how to reply someone in xchat
[13:25] <error404notfound> anyoe who could help me getting window title application icon back?
[13:25] <black> thes is chat nice
[13:25] <rsk> !ops | black
[13:25] <grawity> _ps_: Start typing someone's nick, then press 'Tab'.
[13:26] <dsf> is this a network ip <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[13:26] <Amaranth> black: Do you have a problem with Ubuntu we can help you with?
[13:26] <elky> black, are you here to ask a question, or just spam?
[13:26] <black> wlcome
[13:26] <_ps_> grawity, ok thx
[13:26] <black> no man
[13:26] <neil_d> can you access a scanner via samba?
[13:26] <elky> black, so no, you're not here to ask a question?
[13:26] <black> no problam
[13:27] <grawity> dsf: <IP_ADDRESS> is a public IPv4 address which belongs to wanadoo.fr
[13:27] <Unregistered> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:27] <grawity> neil_d: I don't think so...
[13:28] <Unregistered> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:28] <dsf> grawity , this mean anyone can access it ? .. its my router just testing to see if ssh works
[13:28] <radix> is there a way to get a list of all conffiles on my system and whether they match the maintainer version?
[13:28] <Unregistered> http://a0d268a3.linkbucks.com
[13:28] <grawity> Riight.
[13:29] <linxeh> dsf: I can't connect to it at least
[13:29] <assassin> finally, I attach a server
[13:29] <grawity> dsf: Yes, that IP is accessible from outside. But it doesn't appear to be running ssh, at least not on the default port.
[13:30] <dsf> thats weird i can connect to it on port 22 as root  on my network
[13:30] <neil_d> grawity: ok.  hadn't heard of it myself.  thanks.
[13:30] <linxeh> dsf: connections to port 22 on that IP timeout here
[13:30] <assassin> are Chinese users connect the xchat server slower?
[13:31] <black> How to install Ubuntu on Back-track Tools?
[13:31] <stefg> assassin: the great firewall might add some latency :\
[13:31] <SandGorgon> if I build my custom AMD64 kernel - do I need to recompile ia32-libs as well ?
[13:31] <wzssyqa> assassin: xchat server?
[13:31] <dsf> linxeh,  could it be my isp blockign it , or iptables ?
[13:31] <assassin> latency?what's this men
[13:32] <linxeh> dsf: could be either :)
[13:32] <black> How to install Ubuntu on Back-track Tools?
[13:32] <grawity> dsf: It might be just your router doing it.
[13:32] <linxeh> dsf: I normally forward from other ports anyway; I got sick of ssh bruteforce attempts
[13:33] <stefg> assassin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latency_(engineering)
[13:33] <error404notfound> anyone who could help me get back my title bar application icon for all windows? seems like i messed up something in gconf-editor
[13:34] <basajaun> hi all need help with troubleshooting dvd drive
[13:34] <assassin> it's seems that i an't connect to wiki.....
[13:34] <assassin> it's seems that i can't connect to wiki.....
[13:34] <lucaxxxxxx> hey guys... where can i find squashfs for kernel 2.6.31?
[13:34] <dsf> If you could look at my tables id be very grateful http://pastebin.com/m4e892a5a my interface are ifconfig=)
[13:34] <linxeh> assassin: is the wiki on your own computer? or ?
[13:35] <stefg> assassin: see... that's the great firewall latency ...in this case the latency is infinite
[13:35] <ArcticAzure> hello
[13:35] <dsf> here is my ifconfig http://pastebin.com/m6418dfbf
[13:35] <stefg> !zh
[13:35] <sman> ooh cool my console can display chinese :D
[13:36] <sman> (framebuffer)
[13:36] <stefg> sman: welcome to the wonderfu world of UTF-8
[13:36] <linxeh> or, more to the point, unicode :P
[13:36] <sman> WONDER-FU!
[13:36] <stefg> hehe
[13:37] <assassin> i can got only 1 server of the xchat
[13:37] <assassin> only this server
[13:37] <stefg> !freenode | assassin
[13:37] <b3rz3rk3r> assassin, ?
[13:37] <ArcticAzure> Karmic is awesome
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> ǝuoʎɹǝʌǝ ɹoɟ unɟ sı ɟʇn
[13:38] <b3rz3rk3r> Dr_Willis, thats cool, how dya do that?
[13:38] <ArcticAzure> I've installed karmic and all my graphical issues are gone
[13:38] <legend2440> Dr_Willis: i think your monitor is upside down
[13:38] <ArcticAzure> Full screen flash video runs perfectly now
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> b3rz3rk3r:  i flipped the keyboard over. :)
[13:39] <b3rz3rk3r> Dr_Willis, lol
[13:39] <stefg> ArcticAzure: so head to #ubuntu+1 quick to tell everyone .. :-)
[13:39] <grawity> b3rz3rk3r: http://revfad.com/flip.html
[13:39] <ArcticAzure> youtube in full screen in karmic works great!
[13:39] <black> hi
[13:39] <black> How to install Ubuntu on Bactrak Tools
[13:39] <b3rz3rk3r> grawity, ty
[13:39] <black> How to install Ubuntu on Bactrak Tools ?
[13:39] <grawity> also, !ot
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> its good to hear someone come into #ubuntu+1 and say somthing positive...
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  thats a secret! :)
[13:39] <cylie> :].
[13:40] <black> dr_willis
[13:40] <black> How to install Ubuntu on Bactrak Tools ?
[13:40] <assassin> o ,i see
[13:40] <assassin> er......who is familiar to the sun virtrual box
[13:40] <ArcticAzure> me
[13:40] <b3rz3rk3r> o-0 sıɥʇ ǝʞıl 7331 ƃuıʇıɹʍ ǝuıƃɐɯı  (: unɟ ɥɔnɯ ooʇ sı sıɥʇ
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> black:  i dont have a clue waht 'Bactrak Tools' is even is.. or how you Install Ubuntu on 'it' - I install ubuntu on various pc's :)
[13:41] <ArcticAzure> Who else here has ubuntu 9.10 installed?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> black:  or are you refering to that 'backtrack' linux disrto?
[13:41] <jrib> !karmic | ArcticAzure
[13:41] <b3rz3rk3r> ArcticAzure, try #ubuntu+1
[13:41] <black> thanx man
[13:41] <black> no
[13:42] <black> ok man thanx
[13:42] <ArcticAzure> aww, but 9.10 runs so much better than 9.04 on my PC
[13:42] <soikre> Hello, I need help to change my resolution from 1024x768 to 1024x600 9.04
[13:42] <assassin> 9.10?why my apt cha't upgrade to 9.10
[13:43] <jrib> assassin: 9.10 doesn't exist yet
[13:43] <stefg> !fixres | soikre
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> Dont upgrade at this time.. unless you can risk breakage.
[13:43] <assassin> ha i got a mistake
[13:43] <linxeh> well, more breakage than usual :)
[13:43] <b3rz3rk3r> soikre, netbook?
[13:43] <black> Characteristics of graphics card is to Matrade only if the card you have not defined
[13:44] <soikre> b3rz3rk3r yes
[13:44] <b3rz3rk3r> soikre, are you running the netbook remix?
[13:45] <error404notfound> any nice picture viewer that supports viewing of gif files as well? coz the deafult one has issue with trasparent images or gifs
[13:45] <soikre> b3rz3rk3r what is remix
[13:45] <b3rz3rk3r> soikre, il take that as a no :p
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> !nbr
[13:45] <b3rz3rk3r> soikre, its the netbook version of ubuntu
[13:45] <b3rz3rk3r> cheers Dr_Willis
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Its what i run on my AAO
[13:46] <soikre> b3rz3rk3r lol i guess not
[13:46]  * stefg hates maximus
[13:46] <b3rz3rk3r> soikre, check the link that ubottu put up, and thin about using that
[13:46] <basajaun> can someone help with dvddrive problem?
[13:46] <soikre> b3rz3rk3r sure
[13:47] <briana> can someone tell me how to rip a cd
[13:47] <Animagladius> Hi. :O
[13:47] <briana> im new using ubuntu
[13:47] <stefg> basajaun: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit . Then post the link you get in here
[13:48] <b3rz3rk3r> briana, just pop the disc in and it should bring up an options menu
[13:48] <briana> all it does is start up a media player
[13:49] <briana> there is no option menu anywhere
[13:49] <ArcticAzure> Will the realtime kernel (linux-rt) make things like audacity more accurate?
[13:49] <b3rz3rk3r> briana, the default behaviour is to bring up a dialog like windows asking what you want to do. I think Brasero can rip to ISO
[13:49] <MenZa> ArcticAzure: I believe Ubuntu Studio uses a low-latency kernel to do just that.
[13:50] <b3rz3rk3r> briana, otherwise there are special tools you can get in the Add/remove dialog
[13:50] <ArcticAzure> cool
[13:50] <b3rz3rk3r> briana, just type in CD or DVD or Rip into Add/Remove and it should give you a bunch of options
[13:50] <ArcticAzure> The realtime kernel seems to freeze sometimes though
[13:50] <briana> ok ill try that
[13:51] <MenZa> ArcticAzure: I'm afraid I don't know much about the different kernel types, only what Ubuntu Studio uses - for more accurate recording, video editing, etc.
[13:51] <ArcticAzure> hmm
[13:51] <basajaun> http://pastebin.com/f57949664
[13:51] <basajaun> stefg http://pastebin.com/f57949664
[13:52] <stefg> k
[13:52] <mishu> Hi. I have to install python gnome2 extras on Ubuntu Jaunty. I need it cause some other program depends on it. But It doesn't allow me to install it, because it requires python < 2.6. And python 2.6 is installed, and i can't install an earlier version, like 2.5. What do I do ?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:54] <stefg> basajaun: so the disc you put in isn't recognized (read the end of your demsg) what's supposed to be on it?
[13:56] <mishu> Hi. I have to install python gnome2 extras on Ubuntu Jaunty. I need it cause some other program depends on it. But It doesn't allow me to install it, because it requires python < 2.6. And python 2.6 is installed, and i can't install an earlier version, like 2.5. What do I do ?
[13:56] <MenZa> mishu: Please refrain from repeating yourself again and again.
[13:56] <basajaun> stefg actually there I inserted a blank disk but when I insert a dvd for instance it doesnt show any datai anymore maybe I can repeat with another disk?
[13:56] <MenZa> mishu: Also, what on *earth* are you attempting to install? 2.5 is so incredibly old.
[13:57] <mishu> MenZa, i need to install an program called "usb adsl modem manager" ... it depends on python_gnome2_extras .. which can't run on python 2.6, only on 2.5
[13:57] <stefg> basajaun: DVD's are usually in UDF format ... that might have to do something with your fstab. run 'cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit'
[13:57] <MenZa> mishu: Ah. Your USB modem isn't supported out of the box by Ubuntu?
[13:57] <mishu> nope
[13:58] <stefg> !dvd | basajaun
[13:58] <basajaun> stefg http://pastebin.com/f45e9c4f
[13:58] <MenZa> mishu: I had a quick google to see if I could find a ppa or similar you could get it from... I think your best option is to, you know, compile it yourself, but with something as crucial as Python, I really wouldn't recommend that, as several of GNOME's (and Ubuntu's) core packages depend on it, perhaps 2.6 :/
[13:59] <mishu> i know :-s
[13:59] <assassin> er.....one question,zhe li shui shi zhong guo ren?
[13:59] <MenZa> !cn | assassin
[13:59] <stefg> basajaun: ah... you're missing a complete line for the cd in your fstab
[14:00] <basajaun> stefg I have two cd drives
[14:00] <stefg> basajaun: http://pastebin.com/m4c539154 is how it should be
[14:01] <stefg> let me see
[14:03] <Hegmgm> Hi
[14:03] <JonathanEllis> Is there a shell command I can use to see how big a directory is and many files and subdirectories are in it?
[14:03] <JonathanEllis> !hi | Hegmgm
[14:03] <stefg> basajaun: http://pastebin.com/m94efb5d ... and make a directory  /media/cdrom1
[14:04] <Nitrodist> !ask
[14:04] <stefg> JonathanEllis: man du
[14:04] <grawity> JonathanEllis: du -hs directory; echo $(find directory -type d | wc -l) directories; echo $(find directory -type f | wc -l) regular files; and so on.
[14:05] <JonathanEllis> stefg grawity: Thanks
[14:06] <stefg> grawity: huh , that's scary. do you have an alias for that, or do you regularly type such command lines while inocently whistling on the console ? :-)
[14:06] <grawity> stefg: I haven't needed to do things like that yet, so no, I don't have an alias for that.
[14:06] <linxeh> stefg: with me its the latter
[14:07] <hevalbaranov> quit
[14:07] <hevalbaranov> \quit
[14:07] <petter_> karmic question: how to reset X config? was running fglrx and after a 9.10 install, I think X is broken.
[14:07] <grawity> hevalbaranov: It's /quit
[14:07] <hevalbaranov> grawity: thanks :)
[14:09]  * stefg misses some obfuscated awk code in the pipe of grawity's command ...
[14:10] <basajaun> ok stefg have changed fstab do I need to restart or?
[14:11] <stefg> basajaun: might be a good idea, since i don't know the hal/dbus implications of not doing so
[14:11] <Mohammad[B]> how i can resolve this problem ? :-s please help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/279587/
[14:11] <neil_d> I am using saned to try and make my scanner network available. it isn't working :( do I need to edit the udev rules to make it go properly?
[14:11] <cg--> i just installed 9.04 and can't get sound to work, anyone willing to help?
[14:11] <Mohammad[B]> how i can resolve this problem ? with transmission i can download torrents :-s please help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/279587/
[14:12] <bluespace> I have a dell mini 9. Is it better to install UNR with a generic kernel or lpia?
[14:12] <basajaun> ok stefg back in a min
[14:13] <Jaycob> can I change the size of the partition that Ubuntu is using after I have installed it?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jaycob: sure, boot to live cd and resize, if its just been instlled you may as well just reinstall with better partitions
[14:14] <Jaycob> ok
[14:14] <stefg> bluespace: î'd use i386. lpia has no real benefits currently, but you might run into problems if you need /that/ certain .deb which is only available for i386 (not lpia) then no --force-architecture is needed
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jaycob: if there is data you need, make sure your backups are recent incase something goes wrong
[14:14] <neil_d> Jaycob: generally yes.. but you will have to boot from a CD or something as you can't resize an ext3 partition while in use.
[14:15] <Jaycob> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[14:15] <mo0nykit> !lpia
[14:16] <stefg> mo0nykit: low power intel architecture
[14:16] <stefg> epic name for the atom platform
[14:16] <mo0nykit> stefg, thanks! we should add that to ubottu's "brain" :)
[14:17] <bluespace> stefg, thanks
[14:18] <airman00> hi, can anyone here help me out with something?
[14:18] <MenZa> !anyone | airman00
[14:19] <airman00> I do ./configure to configure this library, but I get the following error  checking vector usability.... no , checking vector presence.. no , configure:error STL <vector> header file not  detected
[14:20] <MenZa> What are you trying to compile, airman00?
[14:20] <airman00> libRoadNav - this GPS library
[14:20] <Nitrodist> so maybe you should ask them XD
[14:20] <MenZa> Nitrodist: That's not helpful.
[14:20] <Two4> airman, you need vector format support, by the sounds of it
[14:21] <ImNotDead_yet> hi, can somebody help me? I don't know how to determine the architecture of my Core 2 Duo -_-
[14:21] <airman00> yep I know that, and but I can't find which package is right for me to install
[14:21] <Nitrodist> is this #ubuntu or is this #POSIX-Applications
[14:21] <erUSUL> ImNotDead_yet: x86_64
[14:21] <MenZa> airman00: You're missing some dependencies; I don't have a Jaunty box available, but have you looked to see if it's already available in the repositories?
[14:21] <ImNotDead_yet> thx
[14:21] <basajaun> stefg no change shall repeat  step one so you can maybe see something?
[14:21] <Two4> nitrodist, use /topic
[14:22] <airman00> I looked, and installed something that seemed like it would give me support , but it did not
[14:22] <Nitrodist> Two4, and?
[14:22] <Two4> this is #ubuntu
[14:22] <Nitrodist> I see many ubuntu links and yet no links to random libraries
[14:22] <The2morrowMan> What's better for a server? Ext4, or JFS?
[14:22] <erUSUL> airman00: installed build-essential ? look in to installing boost dev packages
[14:22] <mgv1> how can i prevent firefox to go to google when i type incorrect address?
[14:22] <stefg> basajaun: yup ... pastebin is patient :-)
[14:23] <erUSUL> The2morrowMan: i would go with ext4; jfs is in legacy mode
[14:23] <airman00> @erSUL - yea I have GCC
[14:23] <MenZa> Their documentation certainly isn't very useful, airman00 --- as erUSUL says, do you have build-essential installed?
[14:23] <basajaun> http://pastebin.com/f1cfe77ae
[14:23] <LjL> airman00: he said build-essential, not gcc
[14:23] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m58ba65de ......?
[14:24] <stefg> The2morrowMan: for a production server it'S either ext3 or xfs. everything else is asking for trouble sooner or later
[14:24] <neil_d> I am using saned to try and make my scanner network available. it isn't working :( do I need to edit the udev rules to make it go properly?  I have followed the step in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[14:24] <Nitrodist> mgv1, about:config, then filter for 'keyword' and check keyword.enabled to false
[14:24] <The2morrowMan> I twitch at XFS. I don't have an UPS on this machine, yet. I guess it's ext3.
[14:24] <Nitrodist> mgv1, also, #firefox
[14:25] <LjL> neil_d: does it work locally?
[14:25] <legend2440> airman00: have you tried the  Ubuntu i386 .deb package. it says its for Gutsy but it looks like it will still install    http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[14:25] <neil_d> LjL: yes
[14:26] <SharpRain> HELP ME
[14:26] <airman00> I'm trying to compile from source
[14:26] <LjL> neil_d: is "net" uncommented in /etc/san/dll.conf ?
[14:26] <SharpRain> I have no menus!
[14:26] <SharpRain> Also
[14:26] <adonai2009> hi
[14:26] <Nitrodist> !ask SharpRain
[14:26] <neil_d> LjL: on which computer?
[14:26] <Nitrodist> !ask
[14:26] <LjL> neil_d: the server
[14:26] <Nitrodist> errr
[14:26] <airman00> dope- build-essential fixed it. Thanks!
[14:26] <stefg> basajaun: looks ok so far. so what doesn't work?
[14:27] <The2morrowMan> stefg, Isn't XFS a little dangerous? Null-padded files and such?
[14:27] <Nitrodist> SharpRain, pm?
[14:27] <adonai2009> i removed wine in ad/remove function in ubunto9 , but it stil there in menus . how to delete it from menus
[14:27] <SharpRain> I installed all this crap, like tor, pipora, vidalia, etc
[14:27] <SharpRain> and Tor
[14:27] <LjL> !enter | SharpRain
[14:27] <jrib> adonai2009: right click on ubuntu icon -> edit menu
[14:27] <neil_d> LjL: yes
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> SharpRain:  try a new user - see if the menus come back for them
[14:27] <SharpRain> I then used sudo apt-get remove on them all, but there are remnants off them and I can't reinstall it all without errors.
[14:28] <LjL> neil_d: clueless question - have you checked firewall rules? recent versions of ubuntu may (or may not) come with some of those. i don't really know because i'm still on hardy.
[14:28] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m58ba65de .......??
[14:28] <basajaun> sefg I isert a dvd and nothing shows up at all this is for sr0
[14:29] <neil_d> LjL: I don't have any ufw setup.. and syslog on the server seems to indicate that saned is receive the connect and accepting it.
[14:29] <adonai2009> it dont work , i click remove there and nothing happpen it .
[14:29] <stefg> The2morrowMan: if you're crazy enough to run a heavy loaded database server without UPS... yeah, then it might be a bit dangerous. in all other cases chances are minimal that your metadata got written but your actual data not when the power cut out... i use xfs for a while now on my medium busy file servers in my company and found it very useable, esp. online-resize capability in conjunction...
[14:29] <stefg> ...with lvm
[14:30] <adonai2009> jrib , i click remove on wine menu and nothing happens .
[14:30] <LjL> neil_d: and, while you seem to know what you're doing well enough to not be caught by this... i assume that instead of the "<IP_ADDRESS>/24" that the howto mentions, you have put in whatever mask actually applies for your network?
[14:30] <jrib> adonai2009: run alacarte from a terminal and look for interesting output
[14:30] <flower> does someone has success with Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) on jaunty?
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> adonai2009:  removing 'wine' does NOT uninstall any of your wine apps.. and those get 'added to the menus' by some .desktop files in the users home dir.
[14:30] <Jaycob> do i need any special burn settings when burning the ubuntu image on a disk?
[14:31] <The2morrowMan> stefg, I'll give it a try, then. Thanks.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Jaycob:  its reccomended to burn it at as low a speed as you can
[14:31] <FloridaGuy> anyone able to help? ...    http://pastebin.com/m58ba65de
[14:31] <LjL> Jaycob: people usually say slower is better, but that's about it
[14:31] <neil_d> LjL: well as matter of fact <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is correct for my network.
[14:31] <basajaun> stefg here another paste bin both cd drives  with a dvd one shows in menu the other not  http://pastebin.com/f5f04f072
[14:31] <Jaycob> ok, thanks
[14:31] <LjL> neil_d: can you pastebin exacty what syslog has to say when a client connects?
[14:32] <adonai2009> DR_willis i first uninstall all wine apps , then i removed wine , and now by right click to acess menu deletes , i cant delete wine menu from bar .
[14:32] <neil_d> LjL: is this it "linux saned[2102]: init: access granted to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:32] <neil_d> 36"
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> adonai2009:  use the menu editor tool. or find those desktop files i your users home dir
[14:32] <LjL> neil_d: and that's it? no "disconnected" later?
[14:32] <stefg> basajaun: try to replace /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 with /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1 in /etc/fstab
[14:33] <adonai2009> Dr_Willís do you know where tey use to be ?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> adonai2009:  just a guess.. from exporeing my users home dir.. (which you may want todo also)
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> ~/.config/menus/applications-merged
[14:33] <basajaun> stfg ok will try that
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> adonai2009:  if theres some program like   bubbagames in your wine.. try looking for  somthing cvalled bubbagames.desktop
[14:34] <adonai2009> yes ok ... now work , the menu was lock
[14:34] <basajaun> bstfg but one disk shows now, anyway Ill try
[14:34] <neil_d> LjL: here is everything http://paste.ubuntu.com/279616/
[14:35] <adonai2009> other thing iam trying to do  is import my favortes of mozzila in windows to favorites in ubuntu , since iam using itsa and ubuntu in same computer
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> adonai2009:  i find it easier to use some online-bookmark keeper extension.
[14:35] <adonai2009> when i try to click import in moziilla it says it dont find nothing to import
[14:35] <stefg> The2morrowMan: and since you were considering ext4: man, THAT'S dangerous, xfs is solid as a brick compared to taht
[14:35] <erUSUL> adonai2009: export it in windows transfer the file to ubuntu import them there
[14:35] <The2morrowMan> stefg, I wasn't sure how stable ext4 was considered.
[14:36] <neil_d> LjL: just double checked the scanner locally it is going.
[14:36] <LjL> FloridaGuy: i don't know, but to me that seems like a bug with compiz-fusion-plugin-extras post- or preinst file. it's looking for things to remove, but it finds none, so it returns failure, and tell APT it failed to configure even when it has
[14:36] <adonai2009> i will try erUSUL
[14:36] <mo0nykit> !xfs
[14:36] <adonai2009> see you in minutes
[14:36] <erUSUL> adonai2009: there are two filetypes. html and json try with both
[14:36] <LjL> neil_d: and what does the client say?
[14:37] <FloridaGuy> LjL, it was like that sence install yesterday
[14:37] <neil_d> LjL: xsane puts up a dialog saying "no devices available"
[14:37] <stefg> The2morrowMan: still unresolved data loss issues... because POSIX theory and developers and their reality are two different things
[14:38] <LjL> neil_d: wait, do you have "net" enabled on the *clients* in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf? i know i said server earlier, but, i'm having a sudden doubt.
[14:38] <neil_d> LjL: the server is a i386 kernel and the client is a amd64 kernel.
[14:38] <crasher> can anybody recommend a good web cam for Ubuntu?  I can't get any of my logitech quick cams to work properly.
[14:38] <stefg> !webcam
[14:38] <neil_d> LjL: I checked it seems it was enable by default on both machines.
[14:39] <proc1> hey, after an update recently my xserver is acting weir, no true transparency for my terminal (just the bg image) and all my movie players quit with an error (presumably) from the X server "X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"
[14:40] <LjL> neil_d: i'm slightly out of ideas. one thing, since ubuntu seems to come with virtually all backends enabled in dll.conf, perhaps try disabling all but the one you actually need... they might be confusing each other. although that'd be unlikely since it works locally.
[14:40] <FloridaGuy> LjL, if i try removing all of compiz here's what i get.....   E: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[14:40] <Novita> Hello all, I am connecting my Ps3controller by using USB to my pc Running Ubuntu 9.04 dmesg reconizes the controller correctly as a PS3 controller at /dev/input/js0 but any callibration app i use comes out with 0 results. Anyone got any idea?
[14:41] <neil_d> LjL: I will try on the client.
[14:41] <neil_d> LjL: on the client I would only need the 'net' backend corrent?
[14:41] <my007ms> sometime when i have problem with Internet connection my firefox become dark and stop working how i can disable this stupid feature
[14:41] <LjL> FloridaGuy: yes, that's to be expected. i haven't found a bug report about that (strangely). you can work around that by putting an "exit 0" line in the preinst or postinst script, i'll try to find out what its name is
[14:42] <LjL> neil_d: i think so, yes
[14:42] <janhaj> Hello, can you tell me please, how fix this http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6273/snmekobrazovkynovacinem.png ? When i watch normal TV, it is ok, but when i plug the antenn to usb tuner, the screen flashes.. :/
[14:42] <FloridaGuy> LjL, ok
[14:42] <dsf> i am trying to acces my router (ssh) from outside my local network , however either my router or my isp is blocking the requests , i added a iptables rule on port 22 and interface ppp0 ( the one with publick ip ) still no luck , how would the isp block it ?
[14:43] <sebastian_> irc://irc.freenode.net/Bundesradio
[14:43] <grawity> dsf: Very often, routers only allow sshing in from "inside" - from the local network.
[14:43] <LjL> FloridaGuy: the file should be named something like /var/dpkg/info/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra.postinst
[14:43] <LjL> FloridaGuy: see if you have that or something like that
[14:44] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone using Exaile 0.2.14?  It wont retrieve album art for me.
[14:44] <dsf> grawity, Though i have root access to the router ;) , and added a iptable rule it should allow everything
[14:44] <stefg> janhaj: that is no software issue, it's just that the signal gets too weak.
[14:44] <neil_d> LjL: I commented out all but 'net' and tried xsane again no difference :( is there and thing in /etc/init.d I should restart?
[14:44] <FloridaGuy> LjL, no dpkg under /var
[14:44] <stefg> janhaj: that'S a DVB-T usb tuner, right?
[14:45] <janhaj> stefg: ok.. but why in a tv is all ok and with USB tuner no? DVB-T..
[14:45] <grawity> dsf: It isn't just iptables. On most operating systems - Unix, Windows, derivatives - a program can listen either on _all_ interfaces, or on a _single_ particular interface.
[14:45] <LjL> neil_d: well, usually saned gets started all by itself *at every connection*, so no. but since the tutorial shows that may have been changed in 9.04... perhaps
[14:45] <LjL> FloridaGuy: oh sure, that's /var/lib/dpkg/info
[14:45] <grawity> dsf: So maybe the router's sshd is configured to only bind/listen to eth0 or whatever.
[14:45] <FloridaGuy> LjL,  i found it there
[14:45] <my007ms> what does it mean when my firefox become dark and not active ?
[14:46] <stefg> janhaj: the tiny tuner on the usb-stick isn't as good as the dedicated tuner in your settop box. get a better antenna for the USB
[14:46] <LjL> FloridaGuy: ok, edit it with sudo and your favorite text editor, and put "exit 0" (without quotes) as the last line
[14:46] <proc1> if your X server loses functionality after an update then it is most likely a driver problem ? so how do i install/find drivers for my crappy intel card (on my laptop) ...
[14:46] <dsf> grawity, Im not sure , if you can be asked her is iptables --list and ifcongig http://pastebin.com/m53c8a5d1  , i have drop bear installed il have a look at config file.
[14:47] <janhaj> stefg: i use common antenna.. tv and usb tuner has the same antenna..
[14:48] <neil_d> LjL: any more ideas?
[14:48] <proc1> O, how do i go back to a previous version of the xserver ?
[14:49] <erUSUL> !intel | proc1
[14:49] <stefg> janhaj: yeah... as i said , the TV-Tuner is simply better at filtering out noise. so either you need a better USB receiver or a better antenna to make life easier for the crappy USB stick tuner
[14:49] <LjL> neil_d: by the way, i did get your subtle hint about arch mismatch. but i haven't found any bug report that would confirm anything like that
[14:49] <basajaun> stfg no joy, sit is as before only one drives shows and thanks fro your help so far :)
[14:49] <dsf> grawity i tried flushing my iptables and my Internet became  very slow and not all pages could open , utterly confused
[14:49] <FloridaGuy> LjL, whats exit 0 going to do?
[14:49] <janhaj> stefg: ok.. thank you very much :)
[14:49] <proc1> thx
[14:49] <pfui> the link on help.ubuntu.com to the speedtouch dsl modem's firmware is broken, does anyone have an idea where did that archive go?
[14:50] <LjL> FloridaGuy: the "0" means "successful exit, don't worry about anything". so it's a way to convince your system that the script isn't giving any error (and while that's not always a good idea, i do suspect in this case the errrs are spurious)
[14:50] <erUSUL> pfui: which modem ?
[14:50] <mannes> hi
[14:50] <pfui> usb speedtouch 330
[14:50] <pfui> v4 if it matter
[14:50] <mannes> i have a problem with "Adding extension /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/mailmerge.py" when i want to install openoffice. my ubuntu ist hanging up :S
[14:50] <mannes> here is the paste of mailmerge.py http://nopaste.com/p/alD1Zlgsm
[14:50] <erUSUL> pfui: have you tried searching google for the filename ?
[14:50] <FloridaGuy> k
[14:51] <LjL> neil_d: on the server, can you scan as user or only as root?
[14:51] <pfui> erUSUL, yup, there are old copies of the file that thomson (parent company) used to distribute, but they're out of date
[14:51] <neil_d> LjL: ok.  I wasn't trying to be subtle .. but I thought it might be something you might need to know.
[14:51] <pfui> and some were even "modified", I'm not willing to venture my luck with these files
[14:51] <Nitrodist> is there a way to integrate archive extraction into the shell a la winrar context menu in ubuntu?
[14:51] <neil_d> LjL: I can scan as a user.
[14:52] <neil_d> LjL: thou that user has admin rights.
[14:52] <LjL> neil_d: well, it's perfectly possible that there's some bug in SANE's networking protocol which makes things not be sent the same from a 64bit machine as from a 32bit one... but there's no way i can confirm that (only 32 bit machines here)
[14:52] <LjL> neil_d: by admin rights you mean access to sudo?
[14:52] <nilMe> well not so important question. just curiosity - is there any way to change appearance of lock screen in eeebuntu?
[14:53] <diddy> How much RAM can I put into my Ubuntu 9.04 PC?
[14:53] <stefg> diddy: as much as fits in
[14:53] <nilMe> diddy, i think as much as it fits inside)
[14:53] <erUSUL> pfui: i have a backcopy of the firmware files for a speedtouch 330. dunno if it is v4 (i think it is)
[14:54] <grawity> diddy: If the kernel supports PAE - about 64 GB. If it doesn't - 4 GB.
[14:54] <diddy> stefg, nilMe yey but how much can be addressed?
[14:54] <jrib> diddy, grawity: well depends on arch
[14:54] <pfui> erUSUL, the file I'm looking for is ZZZL_3.012
[14:54] <stefg> diddy: on 64bit?
[14:54] <Nushie> hello
[14:54] <nilMe> diddy, refer to grawity's answer
[14:54] <diddy> I have the normal Ubuntu 32 bit. Can I install 64 bit?
[14:55] <neil_d> LjL: yes I do.. just tried via a normal user, and I can still scan so that appear all ok.
[14:55] <stefg> diddy: of course
[14:55] <grawity> diddy: If Ubuntu is 32-bit, but both CPU and Ubuntu support PAE, then 64 GB is the limit.
[14:55] <LjL> neil_d: yeah, i was wondering if maybe saned was running under a user not privileged enough, but in that case it seems unlikel
[14:55] <erUSUL> pfui: i have the already extracted speedtch* files
[14:56] <diddy> grawity, , stefg , jrib nilMe : I am not sure. I have this motherboard. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131045
[14:56] <pfui> you sure it's rev 4?
[14:56] <LjL> neil_d: by the way, it'll be no use in all likelihood, but disable "net" on the server. it's really only needed on the client, where net.conf will list the address of the server
[14:56] <stefg> grawity: i wonder if there's actually a *desktop* mobo that supports more than 16GB hardware-wise on the market
[14:56] <neil_d> LjL: could it be that the user that saned uses isn't privilaged enough?
[14:56] <poseidon> hello all
[14:57] <grawity> diddy: And CPU?
[14:57] <Gratz474> any ruby developers here ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> stefg: what makes a motherboard a "desktop motherboard"
[14:57] <Gratz474> that use ubuntu?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> stefg: a motherboard is a motherboard
[14:57] <diddy> grawity, core 2 duo
[14:57] <LjL> neil_d: i wouldn't think so. but... can you find out which user it's running under? (it's probably "scanner" or "saned")
[14:57] <FeasibilityStudy> Why does Ubuntu make pgp key importation so complicated?  Every time I try to import a pgp key for a PPA, I get an error
[14:57] <grawity> diddy: Anyway, the motherboard has a limit of 8 GB.
[14:57] <poseidon> I am using a distro of Linux called Poseidon Linux and in that I am unable to figure out a way of removing the effects of wide-screen distortion
[14:57] <stefg> ActionParsnip: Absence of hardware monotors and marketing decisions :-)
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> FeasibilityStudy: its a simple command
[14:57] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: What key is that?
[14:57] <poseidon> Please help me out
[14:58] <basajaun> stfg http://pastebin.com/f241b1c5f at the end it says something about read only partition on the drive that is not showing that could be the cause but what can be the remedy ?
[14:58] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: And what error you get?
[14:58] <clearscreen> my ~/.config/users-dirs.dirs keeps getting useless folders added (like Videos/Templates) and those folders keep getting created at boot.. how do I remove them? commenting them out or deleting them altogether just makes them reappear on next boot
[14:58] <LjL> poseidon, this channel is about *Ubuntu* support. Ubuntu is a specific linux distribution
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> FeasibilityStudy: whats the code you get when you apt-get update
[14:58] <diddy> grawity, but how can I find out whether I can install the 64bit version of Ubuntu 9.04?
[14:58] <mo0nykit> ActionParsnip, as far as I know, a server motherboard is capable of supporting 3 or more network interfaces, whereas the desktop motherboard can only support 2, due to IRQ availability
[14:58] <obg_> Hi, is it possible to rename a bunch of files in a directory using the first line of text in each of the files as the new file name?
[14:58] <poseidon> so do I go and access the Poseidon Linux forums to get further help??
[14:58] <Gratz474> so stupid
[14:58] <LjL> obg_: with a little scripting... yes
[14:58] <FeasibilityStudy> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/me/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[14:58] <Gratz474> ubutnu has the rubygems package done so that you can't use it
[14:58] <Gratz474> what a stupid thing
[14:59] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: What key do you want to add?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> mo0nykit: i have a desktop PC with 3 NICs in, its an old compaq...
[14:59] <FeasibilityStudy> The one for exaile
[14:59] <stefg> diddy: so if you read the specs the board is maxed out at 8GB, so the limiting factor is not the OS
[14:59] <grawity> diddy: If the CPU supports 64-bit, you can. (Intel Core 2 Duo does have 64-bit.) But it will be mostly useless for you.
[14:59] <bullgard4> '~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor; lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-01-29 09:03 /etc/alternatives/editor -> /bin/nano'. What programs use the file /etc/alternatives/editor?
[14:59] <obg_> LjL, would you be able to recommend some syntax?
[14:59] <LjL> obg_: something like (untested!!! try in a test directory first)    for file in *; do mv "$file" "$(head -1 $file)"; done
[14:59] <erUSUL> pfui: do you want the files ?
[14:59] <Ingsoc> I can't get ubuntu to recognize blank cd's. This is a new problem, it worked fine until yesterday. Please help.
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> FeasibilityStudy: sudo chown me:me /home/me/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[15:00] <nilMe> so is there any way to change a lock screen? just got tired of blue color -_- please does anybody know this?)
[15:00] <diddy> But I could install the 64bit version of Ubuntu and install 8GB of RAM. That would save me from buying a new MB soon, right?
[15:00] <LjL> poseidon: i'd suppose so. i'm not aware of a Poseidon Linux channel on this network.
[15:00] <neil_d> LjL: there is a user and group called saned.. which group has scanner priviliges?
[15:00] <FeasibilityStudy> ActionParsnip: I already own it
[15:00] <poseidon> hmm
[15:00] <obg_> LjL, great! What if the files are .doc and I want to use antiword to read the first line. Is there a way of fitting this into the equation?
[15:00] <FeasibilityStudy> ActionParsnip: Thats the thing, I own it and am in the group.
[15:00] <poseidon> LjL: it is not a very widely known distro.
[15:00] <LjL> neil_d: i don't know, that will change depending on versions. but probably "scanner". perhaps try creating a user not in that group, and scanning. also, see if saned is a member
[15:01] <LjL> poseidon: there is always the ##linux channel, or the even more generic ##freenode
[15:01] <LjL> #freenode, een
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> FeasibilityStudy: does your ouput match this: http://pastebin.com/d5d3f4dad
[15:01] <mo0nykit> ActionParsnip, oh.. that means I don't know enough. Just my 2 cents :)
[15:01] <poseidon> LjL: do you think that tweaking the display stats in this distro will have the same effects as it would have had in Ubuntu?
[15:01] <neil_d> LjL: saned isn't in any group (other than its own). still looking.
[15:01] <LjL> neil_d: still, honestly, i'd expect to see something in syslog if it were a matter of denied permissions
[15:02] <LjL> poseidon: no, i wouldn't think so
[15:02] <LjL> neil_d: is your normal user in scanner?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> mo0nykit: i wasnt getting at you dude :D. I just dont get this spliting of boards into server and desktop. I thik its pretty redundant considering most user PCs are good enough to be servers
[15:02] <FeasibilityStudy> ActionParsnip: -rw------T 1 me me 344 2009-09-16 05:00 /home/me/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[15:03] <neil_d> LjL: there doesn't appear to be a group called 'scanner' or anything similar.
[15:03] <r15> hi everyone,
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> FeasibilityStudy: very strange
[15:03] <diddy> I entered the command cat /proc/cpuinfo. Now which line tells me whether I my CPU supports 64bit or not (lets assume grawity hadn't already told me)?
[15:03] <r15> one of my friend asked me for a version of linux to use, i suggested him to use ubuntu.
[15:03] <LjL> neil_d: see, there's the differences between my Hardy (or my Debian) and your Jaunty.
[15:03] <grawity> diddy: "model name"
[15:03] <r15> it is since last one and a half year he is using ubuntu 9.
[15:04] <stefg> diddy: your average box will run perfectly on 2GB of ram .... you will need a new motherboard because you want faster DDR3 ram, 6GB/s sata and USB3
[15:04] <erUSUL> bullgard4: try « editor filename.txt » on a terminal
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> FeasibilityStudy: theres only 2 lines uncommented in there in mine
[15:04] <poseidon> LjL: actually I have just bought a new laptop, and I am running Poseidon on it off a live boot CD. It provides me an option of only 2 resolutions and none of them seem to e taking full advantage of the display screen of the laptop
[15:04] <grawity> diddy: And then - google.
[15:04] <r15> today he updated his laptop and after a reboot he is unable to get the GUI.
[15:04] <diddy> grawity, model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz
[15:04] <LjL> neil_d: i'd suggest you disable saned temporarily (from whatever config file you used to enable it, /etc/default/whatitscalled), and manually run saned with "saned -d 128" to see what the heck it's thinking
[15:04] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: You know what... sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key (insert exhaile's key ID here)
[15:04] <neil_d> LjL: yes.. some consistence would be nice.
[15:05] <neil_d> LjL: ok
[15:05] <r15> i am not much aware about ubuntu, and my frined is 1500km away. so can i have some idea of booting os into runlevel 1, i asked him to modify grub at boot time.
[15:05] <Ingsoc> I can't get ubuntu to recognize blank cd's. This is a new problem, it worked fine until yesterday. Please help.
[15:05] <poseidon> LjL: so could you give me a vague idea of what the issue would be? Whether it is a problem with the hardware or the OS??
[15:05] <phyrrus> anybody know any good hacking tools?
[15:05] <RS1> Hey I'm trying to run FlightGear CVS on my 9.04 Box (dual boot). The XP counterpart runs flightgear in ok graphics performance ( ~12fps ) but on linux its as low as 2-3 fps
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !ot | phyrrus
[15:05] <LjL> !fixres > poseidon    (poseidon, see the private message from ubottu) here's your vague idea, but i have no idea if it would apply to anothre distribtion
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> phyrrus:  how vague...
[15:06] <FeasibilityStudy> grawity: that worked...But why was it not working earlier?
[15:06] <phyrrus> what?
[15:06] <diddy> stefg, I am running many virtual machines at the same time, so I could use some more RAM.
[15:06] <diddy> http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm?iid=prod_core2duo+tab_spec
[15:06] <jrib> phyrrus: vim
[15:06] <phyrrus> I just wanna know, I am bored
[15:06] <phyrrus> I have vim
[15:06] <jrib> phyrrus: ok, go learn it
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> RS1: configure video settings better or configure your drivers better
[15:06] <neil_d> LjL: what the heck... now it goes.
[15:06] <phyrrus> but thats an editor
[15:06] <IdleOne> phyrrus: nano is great for hacking code also
[15:06] <LjL> neil_d: really?
[15:06] <phyrrus> and I know it well
[15:06] <stefg> diddy: yup... ram is cheap, so get some and shove it in
[15:06] <phyrrus> I mean actual tools
[15:06] <jrib> phyrrus: so pick your favorite project and start hacking...
[15:06] <LjL> neil_d: then it'll be a matter of user privileges, despite all appearances
[15:06] <jrib> phyrrus: try kernel.org
[15:07] <phyrrus> lol... I am a whitehat.
[15:07] <poseidon> LjL: thanks, I shall go and check it out in other chat rooms :)
[15:07] <RS1> How to do that? FYI This is a GMA 900 with 1.2 gigs of memory
[15:07] <phyrrus> ok shall do
[15:07] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: Since I have no idea _how_ were you trying to do it earlier - I don't know.
[15:07] <Ingsoc> I can't get ubuntu to recognize blank cd's. This is a new problem, it worked fine until yesterday. Please help. Anyone?
[15:07] <diddy> stefg, are there any disadvantages of using 64bit? If not I would go ahead and install it later on.
[15:07] <LjL> neil_d: what groups is your current user amember of?
[15:07] <FeasibilityStudy> grawity: I was getting the old "bad permissions on gnupg folder" error
[15:07] <neil_d> LjL: I ran saned as root then.. I will try again as a user.
[15:07] <bullgard4> erUSUL: I have done so. --  Thank you.
[15:07] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: ....I kinda was asking for the commands you were using.
[15:08] <FeasibilityStudy> grawity: http://www.exaile.org/downloads
[15:08] <FeasibilityStudy> Those were the instructions I was following
[15:08] <bullgard4> stefg: How do you start your Chatzilla program?
[15:08] <FeasibilityStudy> If I tried it their way, I got the "gnupg permissions error"
[15:08] <stefg> diddy: some proprietary packages like flash are not available on (stable) 64bit versions... but doesn't matter, you install 32bit ia-libs and run them in 32bit anyway on 64bit host.
[15:08] <basajaun> need help with one dvd drive see end of pasted  http://pastebin.com/f241b1c5f
[15:08] <RS1> ActionParsnip: How to do that? FYI This is a GMA 900 with 1.2 gigs of memory
[15:09] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all!
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> RS1: could add some xorg.conf settings maybe, like the greedy option may help
[15:09] <diddy> stefg, if that is the only drawback then it is not too bad. How about available software?
[15:09] <HaRDaWaY> hi, i have acer aspire 1410, when i try to play full screen youtube videos its runs too slow, how is possible? i am using flash 10.0
[15:09] <neil_d> LjL: it works if I start it as a user as well... but not when I start via the /etc/init.d/saned script.
[15:09] <stefg> diddy: repos are (99,9%) the same
[15:09] <RS1> ActionParsnip: You'd do me a great favor by telling where is that file and what option to change..
[15:10] <stefg> bullgard4: firefox -chat
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> RS1: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:10] <LjL> neil_d: well what are that user's groups (see it with "groups", guess you know that)
[15:10] <diddy> stefg, thx Is there any other advantage of using 64bit over 32bit other than being able to use more RAM?
[15:10] <basajaun> stfg? do I gather you haven seen my last post http://pastebin.com/f241b1c5f      ?
[15:10] <bullgard4> stefg: What is the advantage compared with running it in Seamonkey?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> RS1: try these options: Option		"MigrationHeuristic"		"greedy"
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> RS1: and / or try: Option		"AccelMethod"			"UXA"
[15:11] <RS1> ActionParsnip: Where do I put those? (Sorry I'm a noob)
[15:11] <MrNaz> well that's funny... netstat -putan   show just    -     under the process name that is listening on a port... what does that mean and how do i free the port up ?