[16:59] <wise_crypt> blod: no problem
[17:01] <FriedrichMan> sipior: thanks, that did the trick
[17:02] <sipior> FriedrichMan: no trouble
[17:02] <wise_crypt> blod: keep me informed
[17:04] <dyllan> Does somebody know how I can remove the "Change Desktop Background" when a user right-clicks on the desktop in Gnome?
[17:04] <imi> hi
[17:05] <imi> http://www.alfa.com.tw/in/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=AWUS036NEH&Category=105463 -- is this device supported out of the box by ubuntu?
[17:07] <blaque> olá
[17:07] <Oer> ini alfa had got a document abount installing AWUS036NEH , nice work<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:07] <dotnetted> lol just my luck - Ive got 10mb free space left on my wubi installation and now I'm getting "POWER CALIBRATION AREA ERROR" from brasero every time I try to burn the livecd .. is there no possible way to resize an ntfs partition from within a wubi install?
[17:07] <Gimpexe> its my birthday!!!!
[17:07] <blaque> algém pode me ajudar?
[17:07] <Gimpexe> today, just 5 minutes ago
[17:07] <Gimpexe> =D
[17:07] <dotnetted> happy birthday!
[17:07] <Gimpexe> : ) thank you
[17:07] <IdleOne> !pt | blaque
[17:08] <blaque> eu só quero saber como funciona o ctrl L no Gnumeric
[17:08] <geekphreak> blaque: spanish?
[17:09] <dotnetted> I'm right in thinking that I can boot into XP and resize the ntfs partition from within windows without affecting the wubi installation right?
[17:09] <geekphreak> !es | blaque
[17:09] <gmatt> i want to edit my grub, what items come up when i start my computer.  what do i nano?
[17:09] <geekphreak> hi bilalakhtar  sir
[17:09] <Onix> hi
[17:09] <DeadmanIncJS> hi
[17:09] <blaque> QUE DOR
[17:09] <bilalakhtar> geekphreak: Who are you? Why are you saying this?
[17:10] <Oer> imi i read not out of the box, but easy to install
[17:10] <geekphreak> bilalakhtar: lol just saying hello relax man
[17:10] <geekphreak> nevermind
[17:11] <blaque> NÃO É TÃO LIVRE ASSIM NÉ
[17:11] <fardad> anyone here can help me at reinstalling grub?
[17:12] <Losha> !pt | Blaize
[17:12] <mac_linux> Is it possible to get wireless working on the Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD?
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> fardad: have you heard of supergrubdisk? it almost automates restoring grub
[17:12] <Losha> Blaize: Sigh. Meant that for blaque...
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> mac_linux: depends on the card
[17:13] <fardad> aeon-ltd: no,
[17:13] <mac_linux> My card would be the AirPort Extreme.
[17:13] <costre> Losha, Too many people in here :)
[17:13] <fardad> aeon-ltd: what is it?
[17:13] <aeon-ltd> fardad: if you have a free cd or usb stick i'd reccommnd it
[17:13] <Losha> costre: nah, just too quick with the autocompletion tab....
[17:13] <aeon-ltd> fardad: its a easy installer for grub over the mbr
[17:13] <imi> Oer: thanks
[17:14] <fardad> aeon-ltd: how should I get that
[17:14] <aeon-ltd> fardad: just google it :)
[17:14] <Oer> imi Ubuntu !
[17:14] <geekphreak> hi oer
[17:14] <imi> ubuntu rocks ;)
[17:14] <_pg_> anyway to make pidgin contact list "hide on screen edges" like in adium for osx?
[17:14] <Oer> yo geekphreak !
[17:14] <fardad> aeon-ltd: isn't there any other way around this
[17:15] <geekphreak> _pg_:  not that i know off mate
[17:15] <aeon-ltd> fardad: yeah there are guides for using a ubuntu live cd
[17:15] <_pg_> geekphreak: I feel like that shouldnt be hard. and it is so useful
[17:15] <fcukmylife> i download window border theme from http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity ,i know icon theme is installed in .icon path, but i don't know where to install it?
[17:16] <fcukmylife> ~/.icons
[17:16] <Gremnon> fcukmylife, I believe it's ~/.themes for metacity themes, I could be wrong
[17:16] <fardad> aeon-ltd: I tried some of those guids
[17:17] <mac_linux> Can you get the AirPort Extreme wireless card to work on Upbuntu 9.10 LiveCD?
[17:17]  * wise_crypt scratched head
[17:17] <geekphreak> _pg_: i guess :)
[17:17] <_pg_> mac_linux: yeah. plug into ethernet and run all updates and look for hardware drivers to get
[17:17] <wise_crypt> !spelling
[17:18] <Artopal> Hi all! Someone using freetalk for jabber?
[17:18] <mac_linux> ic, ok.  Hopefully that will allow me to troubleshoot what is going on when I do a full install.  Is it recommended that you do an install when connected to the internet?
[17:18] <geekphreak> wise_crypt: what happened, why scratching head?
[17:18] <fcukmylife> Gremnon: thanks,seems you are right
[17:18] <fardad> mac_linux: you can make it work in live CD, if you can make it work in a complete install
[17:19] <mac_linux> When I did a full install, something was going on in which it would just shut down.  I tried the livecd yesterday and it didn't do that.  However, I didn't have the wirelss card going or firefox.
[17:20] <geekphreak> adios people time to go :)
[17:20] <hdon> CAN ANYone recommend an application for viewing VERY LARGE images? i have used ZGRViewer but i don't want to deal with Java right now
[17:20] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: need a good shampoo but hey that off topic lol
[17:20] <Guest88931> Does anyone know how to turn off the "the media contains digital photos -- open fspot" prompt in nautilus?
[17:20] <geekphreak> wise_crypt: heh
[17:21] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: :P
[17:21] <geekphreak> :p
[17:21] <geekphreak> anyways i am off,
[17:21] <wise_crypt> geekphreak: bye
[17:22] <tashan83> can any tell me how..python can be minimised..as when i minimised it it's window is closed
[17:22] <tashan83> ?
[17:22] <tashan83> ya
[17:22] <Artopal> hdon, the light ones are good: viewnior, mirage, gpicview... even qiv.
[17:22] <wise_crypt> tashan83: /j #python
[17:22] <tashan83> hey tell me yar
[17:24] <hdon> Artopal, i am rather looking for something that is made for viewing very large images. like, on the order of trillions of pixels
[17:25] <TDCO> alguien habla español?
[17:25] <wise_crypt> !es | TDCO
[17:25] <TDCO> thanks
[17:25] <hybrid_mind> I'm having problems with an FTDI usb-serial device.  just recently, the device has been causing my system to freeze after being on for exactly 15 minutes, every time that the device is plugged in
[17:25] <wise_crypt> TDCO: no problem
[17:27] <Cucciolo> Ciao :)
[17:27] <Cucciolo> !list
[17:32] <Artopal> hdon, they all view them the same, I think...
[17:34] <Shafiei> i got a problem with my packages!
[17:35] <Shafiei> i installed sun-java6-jdk, but the simbol links does not appear in usr/lib
[17:35] <mcl0vin> howdy folks
[17:35] <edward__> Hello
[17:35] <edward__> Does anyone here use NetBeans?
[17:36] <Shafiei> i have a problem wih java package!!
[17:36] <Shafiei> i cannot install it
[17:36] <Moonshadow> Hi
[17:36] <okokokok> how do i check where I have java installed on ubuntu?
[17:36] <edward__> !help
[17:36] <erUSUL> !java | okokokok
[17:37] <edward__> Does anyone here use NetBeans?
[17:37] <Moonshadow> Does anyone know any voiceprint software?
[17:37] <mcl0vin> i don't know where should i ask this question, when i open an excel sheet with openoffice i shows as blank , but if i click on a cell i can see the formula in the formula bar, can someone help me please
[17:38] <Moonshadow> mcl0vin: maybe the font is white?
[17:38] <edward__> Does nobody here use NetBeans?
[17:40] <mcl0vin> Moonshadow: let me figure this out, this is the first time ever i use it
[17:40] <wise_crypt> edward__: off topic but just ask what is wrong may be somebody would help
[17:40] <Moonshadow> no problem
[17:40] <edward__> Okay, the problem is that I try to open NetBeans via GUI - Nothing happens. I got to terminal and run it and get a Java error...
[17:40] <edward__> No idea why...
[17:40] <edward__> I've tried reinstalling it.
[17:41] <okokokok> do u have java installed?
[17:41] <svenbuntu> hey
[17:41] <edward__> Yes.
[17:41] <edward__> Of course I have Java installed, I am a developer.
[17:41] <edward__> It wouldn't install otherwise either.
[17:42] <edward__> And It wouldn't give me Java errors if it wasn't installed.
[17:42] <svenbuntu> so does anyone know how to change the buffer in ubuntu
[17:43] <BusMaster> i get this annoying click/beep sounds from my speaker whenever I click on buttons and so on with my mouse. How do I stop it?
[17:43] <wise_crypt> edward__: /j  #netbeans
[17:43] <edward__> I am there Wise.
[17:44] <edward__> Thanks though :)
[17:45] <mcl0vin> Moonshadow: can you assist me please
[17:45] <mcl0vin> nasr al sudany
[17:45] <Moonshadow> I don't know, you could ask a question
[17:46] <mcl0vin> ok
[17:46] <edward__> Does anyone here use NetBeans?
[17:46] <IdleOne> edward__: ask your next question
[17:46] <edward__> I get a Java error in terminal when trying to load NetBeans from terminal, when trying to load from GUI nothing happens.
[17:47] <Losha> edward__: and the exact text of the message?
[17:47] <jc_> hi
[17:47] <mcl0vin> when i open an excel file created with M$ office, when i open it in open office the whole screen look white
[17:47] <mcl0vin> i don't see the grids
[17:47] <IdleOne> edward__: perhaps #java can help with the error
[17:47] <mcl0vin> edward__: i did use netbeans , but didn't like it
[17:47] <edward__> Full error: http://pastebin.com/VwRFNKEY
[17:48] <Moonshadow> xls or xlsx mcl0vin?
[17:48] <edward__> Channel is invite only (#java)
[17:48] <Moonshadow> as far as I know, xlsx support is really new
[17:48] <IdleOne> !register > edward__
[17:48] <edward__> I don't want to register with this name :(
[17:48] <IdleOne> you need to be registered to join
[17:48] <IdleOne> so change name
[17:49] <edward__> How?
[17:49] <edward__> I haven't used IRC in a while.
[17:49] <IdleOne> edward__: /nick new_nick  <<< replace new_nick
[17:49] <Losha> edward__: I see lots of google hits on that error message. Do none of them solve the problem? http://javacio.us/search?q=org%2Fopenide%2Futil%2FLookupListener+more%3Ajar_files&inline=true talks about a missing netbeans jarfile...
[17:49] <mcl0vin> is there is an Open Office channel in IRC
[17:49] <Moonshadow> I'm checking for one
[17:49] <Moonshadow> I've never used it
[17:49] <mcl0vin> ;)
[17:50] <edward__> Alright ty.
[17:50] <Guest88931> Does anyone know how to turn off the "the media contains digital photos -- open fspot" prompt in nautilus?
[17:50] <Moonshadow> Its #Openoffice.org
[17:51] <mcl0vin> Moonshadow:how did you search for it please
[17:51] <Moonshadow> I googled FreeNode OpenOffice
[17:51] <Moonshadow> the first answer, in the description
[17:51] <xXedixXx> !changepass
[17:51] <LzrdKing> my right screen keeps blanking after like 10 seconds
[17:51] <mark--asdfadfjkh> anyone here know how to use asp?
[17:51] <xXedixXx> Damn
[17:52] <Moonshadow> Guest88931: Try System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[17:52] <IdleOne> xXedixXx: do nickserv and chanserv commands in a different tab. i.e. not a channel tab
[17:52] <IdleOne> xXedixXx: will save you from yourself in the long run
[17:53] <xXedixXx> Danke.
[17:53] <Guest88931> Moonshadow: I don't see an option for photos there.
[17:53] <navi_> Who can say how to easy make update from ubuntu beta to RC ?
[17:54] <IdleOne> navi_: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[17:54] <LzrdKing> will this channel morph into lucid support next week?
[17:54] <hal> I have a laptop where the dvdrom does not work, so I have copied the ubuntu install disk to an ext3 partition and set the boot attribute on the partition
[17:55] <hal> sorry, I meant that I have copied the install disk to a HDD partition on another PC and then installed it to the laptop
[17:55] <hal> however the partition will not boot
[17:55] <Moonshadow> Guest 88931: Oh... They mustve changed that, I'm sure there used to be
[17:55] <hal> can anyone suggest why this may be?
[17:55] <Myrtti> LzrdKing: yes
[17:55] <Moonshadow> Lemme look around a bit
[17:56] <LzrdKing> and where will karmic support be? #ubuntu-1?
[17:56] <nukelacity> hey :) erm.. i was here the other day for help.. i reinstalled ubuntu and now i have another problem.. my RaLink rt2500 chipset wireless card wont work.. the lights on the card are on, so it is plugged in.. but it wont pick up any networks :/
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> LzrdKing:  it will be here also.
[17:56] <Myrtti> LzrdKing: here
[17:57] <Myrtti> LzrdKing: this is the support channel for all supported versions of Ubuntu ;-)
[17:57] <nukelacity> can anyone help me get that working? xD
[17:57] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: supporting 5 release at once :)
[17:58] <xXedixXx> Still no luck fixing bloody NetBeans...
[17:58] <LzrdKing> IdleOne: i have an issue with Gutsy, can you help? :D
[17:58] <Moonshadow> !help
[17:58] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: ask and someone if not me will try
[17:59] <VirusTB> OK
[17:59] <VirusTB> RAID and Ubuntu with Dual boot posible?
[17:59] <VirusTB> I wann make it a dual boot,  I got 2 SATA 1TB HDD's, and one 250GB PATA/IDE ... i want to use the 250 as the OS (ubuntu and win 7) ... and the "2TB" as RAID.. but i want both ubuntu and windows to see the 2TB as ONE drive ( i thin its RAID 0)
[17:59] <dotnetted> with [1000GB hard drive/8GB physical memory] can anyone suggest a good partition setup for a server (http/svn/asterisk/sql/dns) and development (c++/java/[large sdks]) ?
[17:59] <nukelacity> can anybody help me to fix a RaLink rt2500 wireless card?
[17:59] <padhu> LzrdKing:  this channel itself
[17:59] <IdleOne> LzrdKing: you got me :P
[17:59] <LzrdKing> IdleOne: i was just joking, asking about the oldest one still supported, from 3 years ago
[17:59] <iYorkie[Netbook]> Hello, I require a bit of help. Basicly, the system keeps halting for "The system is going down for HALT, now!". I checked cron.d, only sendmail and php5 and logs don't show anything so I am wondering if anyone has any ideas?
[17:59] <iYorkie[Netbook]> it keeps halting around every hour
[18:00] <Moonshadow> Guest88931 - Try opening Places, Computer
[18:00] <Moonshadow> then Edit, Preferences, MEdia
[18:01] <padhu> VirusTB: RAID 1 or RAID 5?
[18:01] <nukelacity> can someone please help with my wifi problem? i need to get it fixed soon :/
[18:01] <iYorkie[Netbook]> so, no one ha sany ideas?
[18:01] <Moonshadow> nukelacity - what is your wifiproblem, drivers?
[18:01] <iYorkie[Netbook]> has any *
[18:01] <BedMan> nukelacity: have you read the howto docs on wifi cards?
[18:01] <jeward> Hi, any tips on getting a Mac Pro to boot 10.04?  It gets so far and then just hangs.
[18:01] <hal> ok, let me try again...  I have a hard drive in a laptop with an ext3 partition to which I have copied the ubuntu install disk. The partition has the boot attr set.  When I boot, the following error is returned "Error Loading Operating System"
[18:01] <Guest88931> Moonshadow: Ok, but what now?
[18:01] <hal> would someone mind helping me to solve this, please?
[18:01] <Myrtti> !lucid | jeward
[18:01] <Moonshadow> Well
[18:02] <nukelacity> im using a RaLink rt2500 and it says i have the drivers loaded but its not picking up any wifi networks.. open or protected
[18:02] <Naru> Are their no updates for Ubuntu 10.04 since Yesterday? My Ubuntu don't show my updates...
[18:02] <Moonshadow> Theres an option for photo disks
[18:02] <jeward> Myrtti: So no?
[18:02] <IdleOne> Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion. Naru
[18:02] <Naru> k
[18:02] <Myrtti> jeward: not on this channel
[18:02] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: look in messages (/var/log/messages) and check where else syslog may be putting things
[18:02] <VirusTB> padhu,  RAID 1 i believe..... (where i combine both 1TB drives, and my system see's it as ONE 2TB harddrive)
[18:02] <nukelacity> if it helps im not on the problemed machine at the moment im on my laptop so you can see that my internet is actually working
[18:03] <hal> note that my dvdrom does not work, so it's not an option to boot from the ubuntu cd
[18:03] <iYorkie[Netbook]> BedMan: messages shows signal 15 and syslog says...
[18:03] <hal> please - any suggestions would be really welcome
[18:03] <xangua> hal: you can try boot from a usb with ubuntu
[18:03] <BedMan> VirusTB: if your raid is done in hardware, the OS will not care which OS is using the drive (if your dirvers work) but you have to use a supported filesystem type on both OS's...
[18:03] <iYorkie[Netbook]>  named[12013]: exiting
[18:03] <iYorkie[Netbook]>  exiting on signal 15
[18:04] <xplinux> i can not install vuze 4.3 in ylmfos 9.10
[18:04] <hal> xangua: the laptop won't recognise usb removable drives on boot
[18:04] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: that's standard shutdown procedure... look further up for potential causes of the shutdown
[18:04] <padhu> VirusTB: you should LVM to do this
[18:04] <Moonshadow> hal, how did you get ubuntu on it in the first place?
[18:04] <wise_crypt> edward__: so how is it go ?
[18:05] <VirusTB> padhu, whats LWM? :S
[18:05] <BedMan> VirusTB: raid 1 = mirroring, raid 0 = striping (your 2tb example)
[18:05] <nukelacity> ubuntu 10.04 (i know its not yet supported but it was working until i reinstalled) and now the RaLink rt2500 wont pick up any wifi networks but ubuntu is showing that the drivers are loaded
[18:05] <iYorkie[Netbook]> BedMab, what type of things?
[18:05] <xangua> nukelacity: #ubuntu+1 fot lucid
[18:05] <hal> Moonshadow: I copied the ubuntu cd using cp -R /media/cdrom/* /mnt/mydisk on another ubuntu PC connected via usb
[18:06] <VirusTB> BedMan,  i think it might be beter if I just use ubuntu as a VM... since i am still a beginer to it...... or does Win 7 run well as a VM on Ubuntu'
[18:06] <padhu> VirusTB: LVM
[18:06] <nukelacity> xangua? sorry i dont understand xD
[18:06] <xangua> !lucid > nukelacity
[18:06] <nukelacity> ubottu how? im using the terminal based IRC lol
[18:07] <BedMan> VirusTB: I haven't done it either way.. I only have XP as a VM Client on win7 at home.  I use a unix box for unix :-)
[18:07] <Guest88931> Moonshadow: I just have a list of all the disks.
[18:07] <kian_> which software works as MMB in linux?
[18:07] <xangua> kian_: MMB ¿¿
[18:07] <Jordan_U> hal: You can use a utility like unetbootin to create a bootable partition, or if you don't want to have to reformat, install grub and use it to boot from an iso file.
[18:08] <kian_> which software works as MMB ( multy media builder )in linux?
[18:08] <iYorkie[Netbook]> I don't see anything BedMan
[18:08] <blue112> Hi here
[18:08] <xplinux> I can not install vuze 4.3 in distro ylmfos ubuntu 9.10
[18:08] <chimp-champ> How can I find out with a shell command which kind of RAM I have in my PC?
[18:08] <blue112> I have a problem : I don't understand why my computer is so slow... It's so laggy that my music "jumps" :/
[18:09] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: :( there are utilities to see what's going on on your system - such as lsof and ps, but they are more challenging to use
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> 100421 17:06:27 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Normal shutdown
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> I see that before it stopped
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> and
[18:09] <BedMan> it would be before that too
[18:09] <LzrdKing> are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering if its due to DPMS
[18:09] <iYorkie[Netbook]> received control channel command 'stop -p'
[18:09] <wise_crypt> edward__: no problem :)
[18:10] <switch10_> blue112: cat /etc/proc/meminfo will tell you how much ram etc..  open the case up if you want to know what brand...
[18:10] <BedMan> iYorkie[Netbook]: those are normal shutdown messages still
[18:10] <Jordan_U> blue112: 10.04, when it's released, should use real time priority for audio which should help with music jumping. But I assume there are other problems as well.
[18:10] <hal> Jordan_U: thank you - just installing unetbootin now  :)
[18:10] <Hajmola> having problems on my network. Can't ping my router, but I can connect through it to the internet.
[18:10] <Jordan_U> hal: You're welcome.
[18:10] <switch10_> blue thats /proc/meminfo
[18:10] <kian_> which software works as MMB ( mmb multimedia builder)in linux?
[18:10] <genii> Hajmola: Perhaps it's set not to respond to ICMP
[18:11] <blue112> switch10_, I don't think it's memory related problem, it's not swapping.
[18:11] <iYorkie[Netbook]> ntpd[27675]: step-systime: Operation not permitted
[18:11] <blue112> Jordan_U, yep, there is other problems, flash is really slow on almost every navigators too.
[18:11] <LzrdKing> Hajmola: most routers are set up to block pings (from the WAN anyway)
[18:11] <Bearman> hi, I have recently installed UNR 9.10. It seems like my "Files and folder" does not update, i really would like to have a shortcut to  my Dropbox folder, since its only there I store personal files. How can I change what folders that show under the "files and folder" tab?
[18:12] <Hajmola> LzrdKing: I can't connect to it. It's actually at my place of work. We have two routers of the same model. One responds to pings the other doesn't
[18:12] <xplinux> i need a pack debian vuze 4.3 for ylmfo.s.  for ubuntu 9.10
[18:12] <Hajmola> LzrdKing: I mean, I can connect and it gives me an IP address, but I can connect to it to adjust settings
[18:12] <kian_> which software works as MMB ( mmb multimedia builder)in linux?
[18:12] <chimp-champ> How can I find out with a shell command which kind of RAM I have in my PC?
[18:13] <RegressLess> Can someone help me set up my wireless connection? There's a possibility that my wireless card is switched off, but I don't know how to check.
[18:13] <xangua> xplinux: use the getdeb repository
[18:13] <BedMan> Hajmola: you may need to use the old stnadby "serial cable"...
[18:13] <xangua> http://www.getdeb.net/
[18:13] <switch10_> chimp-champ: cat /proc/meminfo will tell you all info.
[18:13] <guntbert> !repeat | kian_
[18:13] <genii> chimp-champ: sudo lshw -C memory | more                    also
[18:13] <Oer> chimp-champ, sudo lshw gives all the hardware info
[18:13] <Hajmola> BedMan: There's no serial ports on the router, it's a pretty new consumer netgear
[18:13] <Hajmola> maybe not new.
[18:14] <xplinux> xangua in the repositories only is vuze 4.2 and dont work
[18:14] <chimp-champ> switch1=: No, not the kind of the ram
[18:14] <Jordan_U> blue112: Flash on linux in general doesn't have great performance. Though extreme lag in flash may be indicative of non-accelerated graphics (i.e. GPU driver issues). Do you see high CPU load?
[18:14] <xangua> (12:13:15) xangua: xplinux: use the getdeb repository (12:13:18) xangua: http://www.getdeb.net/
[18:14] <kian_> Ok forgive me
[18:14] <hal> Jordan_U: unetbootin only works with iso files, doesn't it?  Do you know how I can create an iso from the ubuntu DVD?
[18:14] <BedMan> Hajmola: you may need to visit the netgear website to see what you can do with it- full reset often clears any configuration boo-boos
[18:14] <blue112> Jordan_U, cpu load is from 0.5 to 3.0, when the computer really lags.
[18:15] <BedMan> Hajmola: or "return to factory settings"
[18:15] <Hajmola> BedMan, yeah I was hoping it wouldn't get to that
[18:15] <carlos> huy
[18:15] <carlos> buenas
[18:15] <Jordan_U> blue112: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:15] <carlos> alguien que hable español
[18:15] <blue112> Jordan_U, 9.10
[18:15] <genii> !es
[18:15] <BedMan> Hajmola: agreed, that's last ditch
[18:15] <IdleOne> SPAIN
[18:15] <Hajmola> BedMan: LzrdKing, genii, thanks for your help
[18:15] <xplinux> xangua my firefox can not download or install from your link
[18:15] <Jordan_U> blue112: What GPU?
[18:15] <IdleOne> errr
[18:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Is the new buntu font in the repos to use?
[18:16] <xangua> xplinux: READ the instructions of how to install/add the repository
[18:16] <blue112> Jordan_U, it's an nvidia GeForce 8800 GT
[18:16] <RegressLess> hal: you could just download the iso
[18:16] <devkhadka> my /var/www folder is own by www-data  and my user A is member of www-data group but A cannot see the contents of www-data the permission of /var/www  is set to 771 what is the problem
[18:16] <devkhadka> if i set the permission to 777 only then it works
[18:16] <xplinux> doesnt know the
[18:16] <hal> RegressLess: that goes without saying!  ;-)  I'd rather do it now than wait an hour for the download
[18:17] <xplinux> my firefox unknow the app protocol
[18:17] <chimp-champ> Oer:  genii: Thanks for help. Thats it.
[18:17] <BedMan> devkhadka: try 775, and make sure the group ownership is proper
[18:17] <xangua> xplinux: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[18:17] <dotnetted> Ive got a Wubi Ubuntu install on an XP host - I need to resize the partition win/ubuntu both share to create another one to move ubuntu onto - if I resize the windows partition from within windows will it screw up the wubi ubuntu install?
[18:17] <RegressLess> hal: maybe you could go for a walk or take a bath. lol, I'm not being helpful
[18:17] <xplinux> for install fron this page
[18:17] <genii> chimp-champ: You're welcome
[18:17] <jiffe1> there a way of getting federated tables to work in mysql through the server installed via apt-get ?
[18:17] <devkhadka> BedMan, i used id A  and i can see A is member of www-data
[18:18] <hal> thanks for your input RegressLess .  I am going to try with Brasero
[18:18] <blue112> Jordan_U, is that normal that banshee uses 18% of my CPU, and pulseaudio 8% ?
[18:18] <LzrdKing> !banshee
[18:18] <blue112> LzrdKing, then ?
[18:18] <devkhadka> BedMan, the owner of /var/www is www-data and group is alos www-data
[18:18] <LinuxGuy2009> LzrdKing: that was helpful.
[18:18] <LzrdKing> blue112: probably not too bad
[18:19] <blue112> LzrdKing, it just make my whole computer lags.
[18:19] <devkhadka> BedMan, doesnot that  mean A shuld have all permission to /var/www read write ex
[18:19] <blue112> And my music jump =)
[18:19] <RegressLess> Can someone help me set up my wireless? It's Ubuntu 9.04 and my wireless card may be switched off, but I don't know how to check.
[18:19] <LzrdKing> blue112: what else is running?
[18:20] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: sudo lshw -C lan
[18:20] <blue112> LzrdKing, chrome, a paused virtualbox, jabber, xchat.
[18:20] <blue112> That's everything, it should run fine :/
[18:20] <BedMan> devkhadka: if A has a different primary group, then not exactly...
[18:20] <BedMan> devkhadka: brb..
[18:20] <LzrdKing> blue, whats you memory situation like? (free -m)
[18:20] <xplinux> xangua i have installed your link but dont work with firefox
[18:21] <LzrdKing> blue112: ^
[18:21] <om26er> is there a way to hide ubuntu logo in the application menu (top panel)
[18:21] <antivirtel> !info
[18:21] <adelcampo> ha anyone tried going from Wubi 10.04 to a dedicated partition?
[18:21] <blue112> LzrdKing, not swapping, 57mio free.
[18:21] <LzrdKing> blue112: i have a feeling you might be swapping due to the open VM
[18:21] <LzrdKing> ohh
[18:21] <blue112> Hum...
[18:21] <blue112> actually it's weird
[18:21] <xangua> xplinux: you installed it¿¿ noe install vuze from the repositories; you will see there is a new version aviable
[18:21] <blue112> I says :
[18:21] <LzrdKing> adelcampo: yeah, i just reinstalled :P
[18:21] <blue112> Swap:            0          0          0
[18:21] <FloodBot3> blue112: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <blue112> Sorry FloodBot3 :D
[18:22] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: OK, it spit up a bunch of stuff. What am I looking for?
[18:22] <adelcampo> LzrdKing: did it improve anything?
[18:22] <blue112> It sounds like I don't have swap, LzrdKing
[18:22] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: make and model
[18:22] <vincent_> when is lucid releases
[18:22] <LinuxGuy2009> april 29
[18:22] <CaptainTrek> !lucid
[18:22] <xplinux> xangua where is the link for install pack debian vuze 4.3?
[18:23] <vincent_> #bibos
[18:23] <xangua> xplinux: in your repositories
[18:23] <LzrdKing> adelcampo: for one computer, i didn;t notice any difference, but for the other, well i made too many changes to know how much differnece the wubi-to-native change made, but that machine is much happier now
[18:23] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: it's the atheros ar9285
[18:23] <devkhadka> i have setup redmine correctly it works fine  when run localhost:3000 but i cannot access it from outside  what can be wrong with me
[18:23] <xplinux> in the repositories ubuntu only is the version vuze 4.2 and dont work
[18:24] <xangua> xplinux: did you installed the getdeb package¿¿
[18:24] <Tripplehelix> I'm guessing I have the RC of 10.04 but still see kernal erorrs :)
[18:24] <vincent_> \/join #bibos
[18:24] <Tripplehelix> *el
[18:24] <DavidJHeinrich1> hi all
[18:24] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: system administration hardware drivers list any drivers for wireless?
[18:24] <xplinux> yes i have it
[18:24] <blue112> hi DavidJHeinrich1
[18:24] <xangua> xplinux: then open synaptic, reload the repositories and you will see the new vuze version aviable
[18:24] <BedMan> devkhadka: do you have a firewall set up? look into ufw man pages
[18:25] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: there's nothing listed
[18:25] <blue112> Well, I should try to reboot now.
[18:25] <LzrdKing> adelcampo: wubi->ext4, gnome->bare openbox, samba shares->nfs shares, and it went from 100% cpu playing SD video in boxee and HD not being playtable at all to <20% cpu playing some 720p (cartoons, mainly) and <80% on others
[18:25] <xplinux> but firefox dont know the app protocol for istall the pack from this page debian
[18:25] <devkhadka> BedMan, ok i ll see
[18:25] <BedMan> blue112: good luck with that :)
[18:25] <blue112> BedMan, thanks :D
[18:25] <xangua> xplinux: open SYNAPTIC, nos firefox
[18:25] <xangua> not*
[18:26] <LzrdKing> blue112: why do you need to reboot?
[18:26] <LzrdKing> too late
[18:26] <devkhadka> BedMan, sorry ufw is inactive
[18:26] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: this is what I get for buying a fancy computer
[18:26] <DavidJHeinrich1> do you guys know what stuff in Ubuntu uses the GPU? (aside from compiz). Does Blender or Inkscape use it for rendering? I'm trying to figure out if I will suffer any performance losses going to an HTPC GPU. (I don't do gaming, but do do blender & inkscape work, & photo-editing of 1 giga-pixel files scanned from 4x5's). I also watch downloaded 1080p movies. And I will at some point be outputting to 2048x1536 CRT, 2650x1600
[18:27] <Exposure367> evening everybody
[18:27] <BedMan> devkhadka: check to see if it's listening on your other interfaces with netstat -an | grep 3000
[18:27] <xplinux> xangua now work , now i have the last version of vuze thans you
[18:27] <adelcampo> LzardKing that sounds considerable
[18:28] <LinuxGuy2009> RegressLess: that machine have a switch to turn wireless off/on? or in bios? made sure its on?
[18:28] <urthmover> network startup order:  Is it possible for me to specify the order in which my network interfaces come up during boot?
[18:28] <xplinux> but i can not download  files from page debian
[18:28] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: never heard of an htpc gpu.
[18:29] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: the X11 drivers are what implements the things a GPU can do, and all that stuff would be impacted by a change in graphics hardware.
[18:29] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: Yes, I mentioned that it may be off, but I don't know how to check or turn it on. In windows, it's been glitchy and is always off when I boot up.
[18:29] <Craiggles> so, do you guys think 10.04 will be available next week? :)
[18:29] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: there are gpu's and then there are gpu's
[18:29] <erUSUL> DavidJHeinrich1: only thing i know of is video display acceleration with cuda ( vdpau )
[18:29] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: HTPC GPU = HD5450 or 4650. Right now, I'm on 4670 with fan...I guess that's close.
[18:29] <IdleOne> Craiggles: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:29] <LzrdKing> yeah, where in the startup scripts are network interfaces brought up?  i'd like my wireless brought up then instead of a kludgy rc.local script
[18:29] <BedMan> !lynx
[18:29] <BedMan> !lusty
[18:29] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: is that a radeon or something?
[18:30] <mrec> hi, is there any way to record DVDs faster than growisofs seems to autodetect? I have 4x DVD+RWs here but with growisofs the maximum speed is 0.1x
[18:30] <IdleOne> BedMan: stop please
[18:30]  * BedMan forgot the name...
[18:30] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: yes, radeon, I like to stick with radeons b/c they'll be supported OSS by radeonhd in future
[18:30] <Pici> !lucid > BedMan
[18:30] <BedMan> that's it
[18:30] <BedMan> sorry
[18:31] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: video dvd? data dvd? be specific
[18:31] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: data dvd (actually just an iso with ubuntu lucid)
[18:31] <wise_crypt> edward__: what people at #netbeans say about it ?
[18:31] <Losha> mrec: have you tried the -speed=4 switch to growisofs ?
[18:31] <mrec> Losha: ya didn't help
[18:31] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: brasero, k3b, buy nero linux 4 like i did?
[18:32] <DavidJHeinrich1> so what about the consequences of going to a 3-display setup? Will that slow things down on modern GPUs? Right now, I'm with 4670 on a 2048x1536 CRT. If I add 2 outputs (2560x1600 & 1900x1080), will that slow things down substantially?
[18:32] <Losha> mrec: LinuxGuy2009: I don't trust brasero, but I'd like to know what k3b says about your available burn speeds...
[18:32] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: I'd buy nero if I'd burn cds much more often .. but I only burn cds 1-2times a half year maybe
[18:32] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: whats a 3 desktop setup? 3 monitors you mean?
[18:33] <mrec> I'm checking with k3b now
[18:33] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: for normal graphics operations (eg. not gaming) it shouldn't be a big impact
[18:33] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: yea, 3 monitors...1 @ 1900x1080, 1 @ 2048x1536, 1 @ 2560x1600
[18:33] <t3chkommie> anyone have expereince with hypervisors?!
[18:33] <Losha> mrec: can you tell us the model number of your burner?
[18:33] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: nice :-)
[18:33] <h00k> !anyone | t3chkommie
[18:33] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: i never had any luck or trust with any free linux burner app so i spent the $20 for nero. love it.
[18:33] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: well, no point in wasting TVs on just TV
[18:34] <RegressLess> how do I toggle wireless off and on?
[18:34] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: growisofs works reliable but is damn slow
[18:34] <mrec> it works better with higher quality dvds
[18:34] <t3chkommie> !hypervisor
[18:34] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: then dont use it.
[18:34] <mrec> Supported writing speeds:2.4x (3324 KB/s)
[18:34] <mrec> 4.0x (5540 KB/s)
[18:34] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: Although I'm astounded by how fantastic 1080p looks on this 2048x1536 Sony GDM-F520 CRT. Ppl tell me tech has improved so much that LCDs will look better than even the best ever CRT, but I'm not so sure
[18:34] <mrec> Losha: how? :)
[18:35] <padhu> chimp-champ: dmidecode will give you a part number - you hould be able to google that part number for more information
[18:35] <t3chkommie> im trying to get a Hypervisor on my lappy... need some adivce.
[18:35] <Losha> mrec: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr0
[18:35] <LzrdKing> DavidJHeinrich1: i watched my first 720p show a few days ago and i was amazed at how clearer it looked (from up close anyway, form further back, not so much)
[18:35] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: they do, and you can pick up a 54" LCD, but the 42" CRT is a back-breaker
[18:35] <LinuxGuy2009> crt are ancient
[18:35] <LzrdKing> BedMan: 21" CRTs are damn heavy!
[18:36] <mrec> Losha: ok will take a while now it's recording using k3b
[18:36] <BedMan> LzrdKing: nod - I have an old 22" NEC that I can't seem to part with...
[18:36] <LinuxGuy2009> ha 36" sony crt is really heavy
[18:36] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: well, maybe they look better than avg CRTs...but my 21" CRT seems to be really impressive imo. Seems to match up with best LCDs for black levels
[18:36] <Losha> mrec: no problem. Speed any better with k3b?
[18:36] <mrec> preformating dvd+rw now .. I'll see
[18:36] <Shammah> test
[18:36] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:36] <mrec> now I hope that preformating won't take an hour
[18:36] <Losha> mrec: ok...
[18:36] <LinuxGuy2009> crt all have bad fuzz
[18:36] <Shammah> Hmmm, i can chat here?
[18:36] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: those 3 monitors would take the total resolution outputted to 9.3 megapixels. Is that gonna screw up the GPU? (I know the IBM T221's had problems being driven b/c they were 9mp LCDs, but that had partlyto do with only accepting single-link DVI
[18:37] <Losha> Shammah: only if it's technical & ubuntu related. Social chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic...
[18:37] <LzrdKing> DavidJHeinrich1: regular LCDs have black issues because of the backlighting; OLED will fix that
[18:37] <Shammah> Losha, just testing, as I can't chat in #c++
[18:37] <Shammah> heh
[18:37] <DavidJHeinrich1> LzrdKing: oh yea, I'm sure OLED will...for much much more $ ;-)
[18:37] <Pici> Shammah: You need to register and identify to talk there
[18:38] <Pici> !register > Shammah
[18:38] <Shammah> I am registered
[18:38] <LinuxGuy2009> yeah led fixed the white issues. but black aint quite black.
[18:38] <DavidJHeinrich1> anyways, will 9.3 megapixels be too much for GPUs to handle?
[18:38] <devkhadka> BedMan,  tcp        0      0 *:3000                  *:*                     LISTEN      13083/ruby
[18:38] <Pici> Shammah: Check your email to finish your registration
[18:38] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: I'm driving 2 23" monitors with a ATI 4870 at home, and gaming with them.  No issues at all running 2 monitors, but it doesn't have another connector for a 3rd
[18:38] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: you mean 9mp photos?
[18:38] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: yea, the GPUs I'm looking at have 1x D-SUB, 1x DVI, 1x HDMI :-)
[18:38] <Shammah> Oh, thanks Pici
[18:38] <Shammah> Sorry for going off-topic here btw
[18:39] <mrec> erasing failed ... not really impressive
[18:39] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: if it's got the connectors, it shouldn't have a problem driving the hardware...
[18:39] <XonX> I can't add volume control to the notification area in lycid. Tried to find gnome-volume-control-applet, but there seems to be no such pakage in the repo
[18:39] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: no, between those 3 separate monitors I listed, the total resolution comes to 9.3 megapixels...2048x1536 + 2560x1600 + 1900x1080 = 9.3 megapixels
[18:39] <Pici> XonX : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:39] <XonX> Pici: Oh... Ok
[18:39] <BedMan> devkhadka: well... sounds like it's open, next step is verifying your access to it
[18:39] <DavidJHeinrich1> what's the formula for how much memory a certain megapixel image requires? megapixels * 24 bits per pixel, right?
[18:39] <LinuxGuy2009> DavidJHeinrich1: total resolution dont mean squat. You can hook up as many monitors as you want.
[18:40] <NucWin> can anyone point me in the direction of the crontab error log it doesnt appear to be running a job i have created
[18:40] <mrec> Losha: same crappy speed with k3b
[18:41] <BedMan> NucWin: find the cron logfile... it should tell you why, and what is hapening with cron
[18:41] <DavidJHeinrich1> does anyone know how to get the pretty red version of the ATI HD5450? http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=455&Itemid=72
[18:41] <mrec> recording dvds still doesn't seem to work well with linux in year 2010 ...
[18:41] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: you must have an old burner?
[18:41] <Pici> !ot | DavidJHeinrich1
[18:41] <NucWin> yeh thats what i have been trying todo but not sure where it is
[18:41] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: quite new one
[18:41] <NucWin> had a look through all the logs in /var/log
[18:41] <mrec> it's a notebook, Asus UL80V
[18:41] <mrec> manufactured in 10/2009
[18:41] <DavidJHeinrich1> LinuxGuy2009: thank for ur help
[18:42] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: Nero Linux 4 is the way to go! You can download the trial and use that if you want.
[18:42] <DavidJHeinrich1> BedMan: thanks for ur thoughts :-)
[18:42] <BedMan> DavidJHeinrich1: yw :-)
[18:42] <IPNixon> hey, if anyone could help me with this i'd appreciate it.  is there a way to make a shell script always run as an executable and not have ubuntu ask if i want to open it in gedit?
[18:42] <RegressLess> How do you turn wireless on in the terminal?
[18:42] <mrec> LinuxGuy2009: it's already recording at 0.1 speed now .. burning 700 mb ubuntu iso takes 1 hour now
[18:42] <h00k> mrec: there are lots of other alternatives than having to purchase nero
[18:42] <Losha> mrec: I don't use rw much, but I've burned literally hundreds of dvd-r's without failures. Of course I'm fussy about burners/media...
[18:42] <mrec> just the same speed as back then in good old 1999
[18:42] <mrec> Losha: DVD-Rs are okay
[18:42] <mrec> but RWs seem to be a mess
[18:42] <nightfrog> mrec: brasero has always been dependable
[18:42] <BedMan> IPNixon: make sure the execute bit is turned on on the script
[18:43] <IPNixon> i'm pretty sure it is, i can double check
[18:43] <h00k> mrec: if you're having problems, feel free to report bugs about it
[18:43] <LinuxGuy2009> mrec: Umm no not even close. I burn DVDs at 16x with nero
[18:43] <IPNixon> that's in the file properties, right BedMan?
[18:43] <Oer> LinuxGuy2009, k3b beats nero commercial crap
[18:43] <LinuxGuy2009> ha
[18:43] <Pici> NucWin: What does the line in your crontab say and when do you expect it to run?
[18:43] <BedMan> IPNixon: chmod +x <script name> from the shell
[18:43] <mrec> Oer: I doubt so nero has alot extra features
[18:43] <NucWin> */1 *	* * * www-data "/var/www/default/share/share.pl --clean" >/dev/null 2>&1
[18:43] <Jordan_U> IPNixon: You can create a launcher that runs the shell script.
[18:44] <NucWin> ive tried with and without " "
[18:44] <Losha> mrec: I find dvd-Rs give best compatibility with old dvd players, and I only use verbatim and/or Taiyo Yuden. I've tested my oldest burns (5 years or so) and they are still readable with low error rates...
[18:44] <LinuxGuy2009> last time I tried k3b and brasero neither was reliable for verifying burns
[18:44] <IPNixon> BedMan, I already did that when I made the script
[18:44] <idlemind> hello. i'm running ubuntu 8.04 lts. i've managed to compile the latest kernel released and added support for my video card along with a lot of the other devices. xorg is not detecting the new driver. is this a time when i will need to write a custom xorg.conf or should i look at installing a more recent xorg to better catch the auto detect of my new driver?
[18:44] <IPNixon> Jordan_U, i'll give that a shot.  thanks!
[18:44] <Pici> NucWin: When do you expect that to run?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> LinuxGuy2009: How so?
[18:44] <mrec> Losha: ya I just want to record and test the latest ubuntu nothing else actually
[18:44] <Oer> best tip: burn slowly cd 8x dvd 4x
[18:44] <NucWin> every minute
[18:44] <Jordan_U> IPNixon: You're welcome.
[18:44] <devkhadka> BedMan, how do i verify it can you plz tell me
[18:44] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: 10.04 will be the new LTS in 7 days.
[18:45] <Losha> LinuxGuy2009: k3b has a tendency to hang during verification. Brasero was so buggy I won't use it at all. I like cdrecord and growisofs...
[18:45] <nightfrog> idlemind: wait for the new LTS
[18:45] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: that it will be. until then i have such limitations =)
[18:45] <RegressLess> hello? it's like no one can see me. Surely out of the 1600 people in here, someone knows how to enable wireless in ubuntu
[18:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Jordan_U: right and I bought nero cause it works.
[18:45] <h00k> RegressLess: have you seen the !wireless factoid?
[18:45] <BedMan> devkhadka: try telnet from another host to port 3000... if you get "connection refused" then something is blocking you
[18:46] <sidharth> Hi
[18:46] <h00k> ubottu: wireless | RegressLess
[18:46] <Oer> ifup ifdown
[18:46] <Jordan_U> idlemind: Installing your own Xorg will negate a lot of the reliability that I assume is your reason for choosing 8.04 LTS
[18:46] <pyrophelia> what can cause a partition not to show up?  when I run fdisk the parition is listed in the table, but it doens't show up under /dev
[18:47] <idlemind> jordan_u: agreed =) hence i'm looking at the xorg.conf i guess to force it to use my new intel driver
[18:47] <NucWin> is it right to use " " for the command in crontab if im using switches?
[18:47] <Jordan_U> LinuxGuy2009: In what way is it unreliable at verifying sucessfull burn?
[18:47] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: RC for 10.04 might fix you up?
[18:47]  * crucialhoax Hates division of polynomials :(
[18:47] <sidharth> is there a dual layer burn utility for ubuntu
[18:47] <BedMan> NucWin: no, that's not right - because then it will lump them all as one command
[18:47] <idlemind> jordan_u: the 1st boot after the kernel compiled it came up all well. after that it hasn't auto detected properly and defaults to a stretched 1024x768
[18:47] <h00k> sidharth: sure, see Brasero
[18:47] <LinuxGuy2009> Jordan_U: error messages and not able to complete a verification or always failing no matter what.
[18:48] <NucWin> DOH think ive found why it wasnt even trying to run
[18:48] <cynicismic> does anyone if if gb jaunty mirrors are down?
[18:48] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>; dhclient wlan0
[18:48] <h00k> LinuxGuy2009: have you reported these bugs?
[18:48] <NucWin> no \n
[18:48] <IPNixon> Jordan_U, that just opened the sh in gedit
[18:48] <Pici> NucWin: Firstly, you dont need the /1, just * will suffice.  Also, I'm not sure if its recreated in your crontab, but I see a weird character between the hour and dom field.  Additionally, make sure that you have a newline at the end of your crontab, sometimes that can mess thigns up.
[18:48] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: at this time i'm still going to have to compile a new kernel on 10.04 to get the wireless going unless it gets backported
[18:48] <Jordan_U> LinuxGuy2009: Even with a lower speed burn?
[18:48] <LinuxGuy2009> no i gave up on burning with free linux tools
[18:48] <RegressLess> h00k: I just thought it would be an easy question.
[18:48] <h00k> RegressLess: it depends on your wireless card
[18:48] <gunther44> hi, why is the openoffice in the repos about 2 years old?
[18:49] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: I don't know what my essid is
[18:49] <Jordan_U> IPNixon: How did you create the launcher?
[18:49] <NucWin> ok /1 was because it was /10 but speeded it up for testing, funny char is TAB so its ok
[18:49] <IPNixon> right clicked on the desktop and clicked new launcher
[18:49] <NucWin> problem turned out to be no new line at the end
[18:49] <NucWin> thanks for help though :)
[18:49] <Jordan_U> idlemind: What card?
[18:49] <h00k> gunther44: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[18:49] <TomG> LinuxGuy2009: Sorry to interrupt, but my drive never wrote to CDs or DVDs correctly until I switched to Linux :/
[18:49] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: Your card is completely unsupported by the kernel?
[18:49] <gunther44> h00k: 8 i think
[18:49] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: its the name of the network, whatever you'd click on in a graphical client
[18:50] <h00k> gunther44: 8.04, 8.10?
[18:50] <gunther44> .10
[18:50] <gunther44> h00k: ^^
[18:50] <Jordan_U> idlemind: Even if you do need a new kernel there is much less likelyhood of user space / kernel mismatch problems with 10.04.
[18:50] <gunther44> h00k, i should still be able to manually update right?
[18:50] <LinuxGuy2009> Just so everyone is clear I am NOT here for help with burning. Nero works better than the free stuff so thats why I bought it. Get over it.
[18:50] <xangua> gunther44: then update or install the more recent version
[18:50] <gunther44> h00k: can i do that via apt?
[18:51] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: it doesn't work in 8.04 or beta 10.04 lts by default. upon compiling <IP_ADDRESS> it works =)
[18:51] <devkhadka> BedMan, i can connect to port 8080 but not 3000 how do i provide access on that port
[18:52] <lukasz> SIEMA
[18:52] <Pici> !pl | lukasz
[18:52] <h00k> gunther44: You might want to consider upgrading your version of Ubuntu, Intrepid does have an older version in it's repo
[18:52] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: lot less headache to just buy a supported peice of hardware.
[18:53] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: sadly i don't get to choose in this case lol
[18:53] <rob__320> when resizing or restore minimized windows in the 10.4 beta 2 (using gnome), it takes about 1 second before it starts that action. it has to do something with compiz, cause when i completely deactivate it, it resizes/restores the windows immediately. I already tried deactivating every single effect in ccsm, but that didnt help. any suggestions?
[18:53] <LinuxGuy2009> idlemind: If its not yours then let the owner worry about it.
[18:53] <cynicismic> actually... they're not - that'll serve me right for pushing out an update nsswitch domain-wide
[18:53] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: so should it look like this? iwconfig wlan0 essid 2WIRE430: dhclient wlan0
[18:53] <guntbert> !lucid | rob__320
[18:53] <h00k> rob__320: head over to #ubuntu+1 for Lucid discussion
[18:54] <soreau> rob__320: Which graphics driver are you using?
[18:54] <soreau> rob__320: Or #compiz
[18:54] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: change the : to a ; or better, a &&
[18:54] <idlemind> linuxguy2009: it's mine, well the company's mine type of thing. meaning they bought it for me 2 use =)
[18:55] <BedMan> 11:18 < blue112> LzrdKing, then ?
[18:55] <azlon> if i have 9 HDDs connected to my machine, how can i tell which one is which? is there any way to get the serial number or anything from the cli?
[18:55] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: yes, I did use a ;      I just typed it wrong here. It told me a bunch of stuff, including Operation not permitted.
[18:56] <Jordan_U> azlon: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[18:56] <makah> hi, can somebody help me with bash script: I need to search for string 'foo', if there is foo then it should backup this file and this file extension must be filename.old and after that I replace 'foo' to 'bar' in orginal file. I hope you got the point. Thank you in advance :)
[18:56] <gmonnie> trying to burn a dvd with Brasero, but everytime it says i dont have the right package to do it, does anyone know what i need to download to do it
[18:56] <BedMan> !firewall | devkhadka
[18:56] <Pici> makah: Bash scripting help is best sought in #bash
[18:56] <h00k> makah: #bash is probably a better place to ask :)
[18:56] <LzrdKing> RegressLess: sudo before each command (iwconfig and dhclient)
[18:56] <TomG> azlon: drives are named by letters in the alphabet.  sda would be the first drive, sdb the second and so on
[18:57] <azlon> Jordan_U: that just gives me: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 33 2010-04-22 20:52 /dev/sdc1
[18:57] <LinuxGuy2009> gmonnie: video dvd?
[18:57] <gmonnie> yeah
[18:57] <LinuxGuy2009> gmonnie: make sure all recomends and suggests are installed for brasero maybe?
[18:57] <TomG> azlon: Once you figure out which drive it which, you can use e2label, or other commands for other filesystems to label your drives and partitions
[18:57] <BedMan> devkhadka: that's most likely the only things stopping you, unless your application uses tcp wrappers
[18:57] <gmonnie> where do i find those
[18:58] <Jordan_U> azlon: Are you sure you typed the command correctly?
[18:58] <LinuxGuy2009> gmonnie: synaptic or aptitude
[18:58] <azlon> TomG: i understand... i have sda through sdi... but i just added another drive and i need to format it. the problem is that i dont know where it was added. with other drives it adds it as /dev/sdc but i need to verify this is correct
[18:58] <BedMan> makah: I'd use perl for that, it's better with pattern matching
[18:58] <devkhadka> BedMan, ok i ll see it
[18:58] <crucialhoax> azlon: It would be the furtherest letter down the alphabet I believe. Double check that tho.
[18:58] <LinuxGuy2009> azlon: gparted
[18:58] <TomG> azlon: the command "blkid" will probably help.  If it's not formatted you will know from that command.
[18:59] <azlon> LinuxGuy2009: gparted doesnt tell me which drive is which... it just lists them
[18:59] <munsking> does anyone here use gambas2 ?
[18:59] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: that's no good--it says no such device.
[18:59] <LinuxGuy2009> azlon: is it an empty drive?
[18:59] <azlon> Jordan_U: ryan@server:~$ ls -l /dev/sdc1
[18:59] <h00k> !anyone | munsking
[18:59] <pyrophelia> is it possible to manipulate irqs?
[18:59] <Jordan_U> azlon: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[18:59] <h00k> pyrophelia: you can in your bios, although generally you shouldn't need to
[18:59] <LzrdKing> RegressLess:type just iwconfig and see which interfaces support wireless
[18:59] <sipior> azlon: if you want the drive serial number, install the "smartmontools" package, and have a look through the "smartctl" man page. your drives almost certainly support it.
[19:00] <Jordan_U> azlon: That's a literal command, type it in character for character
[19:00] <azlon> LinuxGuy2009: i dont know, i got it from a friend. the problem is that i am trying to back up something from my fake-raid, but the drive he gave me is from an old fake-raid of his... so they all have the same identifiers...
[19:00] <munsking> oke then xD, can i change the layout of gambas? as in, put the toolbox on the left side so that i can have that maxed and a maxed properties box?
[19:00] <azlon> Jordan_U: awesome! thanks!
[19:00] <pyrophelia> h00k, well I have 2 raid backplanes on the same irq (pci-e) and I believe I'm suffereing from irq conflicts because of it.  each backplane supports 10 disks.  20 disks on the same irq can't be good
[19:00] <Jordan_U> azlon: You're welcome.
[19:00] <LinuxGuy2009> azlon: You can use the methods listed above to get the UUIDs for all drives and get the UUID for the new one.
[19:01] <RegressLess> LzrdKing: lo     no wireless extensions.     pan0      no wireless extensions
[19:01] <MrKeuner> hello, Karmic installation on my laptop does not suspend when the laptop is inactive for some minutes. How can I debug the problem?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:01] <MrKeuner> it suspends fine when I tell it to
[19:01] <h00k> pyrophelia: I'm not as intimately familiar with IRQ's as I was, perhaps check ##hardware
[19:03] <pyrophelia> ty
[19:06] <helo> what do i need to install so that i can play back encrypted dvds?
[19:06] <helo> (lucid)
[19:08] <helo> oh, got it: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Kaiforce: check the grub config. If the windows stuff is in the scripts then a simple: sudo update-grub ,will suffice
[19:09] <crucialhoax> RegressLess: Make sure the switch is on, sometimes it is an Fn+F[X] key, if it is on, then do a `sudo modprobe ath9k`
[19:09] <gunther44> qq: will an nvidia gt 230m have any probs with k/ubuntu?
[19:09] <SeaPhor> ActionParsnip, are you referring to the /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[19:10]  * wise_crypt is watching lyrid meteor shower so beautiful
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Gunther44: should be fine with the 195 driver. I suggest adding the vpau ppa too
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Seaphor: that file is generated so editing it is futile
[19:10] <bappy2> I tried running aptitude, and it tells me that my locale LANGUAGE and LC_ALL is unset. is this normal? should I set it? I'm on Jaunty
[19:10] <crucialhoax> SeaPhor: You dont want to edit that file. You want to edit /etc/default/grub
[19:10] <cheche> Hi, just one question that I have not been able to find on the forums. Is the  window control switch be permanent for next version?. i thought that it was a beta test
[19:11] <gunther44> ActionParsnip: i haven't got it yet, when i install, will it sort itself out, or will i have to dl extra?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> If I drop, my battery died
[19:11] <SeaPhor> ahhh, good to know ActionParsnip and crucialhoax
[19:11] <Pici> cheche : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:11] <MrSmiley909> Hello. I have the latest nvidia drivers (195.36.15) installed but every time I login, my resolution changes to 1280x1024. When gdm starts it seems to be at 1920x1200 though.
[19:11] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: Ok lol
[19:11] <crucialhoax> SeaPhor: :)
[19:11] <cheche> Pici: thanks, sorry for the noise
[19:11] <vlar> hi i'm wondering why 3D applications don't launch the user interface it quits all the time, any idea?
[19:11] <RegressLess> LinuxGuy2009: it's software
[19:11] <MrSmiley909> Here is my xorg.conf file: http://pastie.org/930132
[19:11] <munsking> im sorry to ask again, but does anyone know if it is possible to change the layout of gambas2?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Gunther44: it will need manually adding, the nouveau driver will do you until you do
[19:11] <munsking> if not, where would be a good place to ask
[19:12] <gustave_me> #ubuntuone
[19:12] <ange> hi
[19:12] <vlar> is there some drivers to set up for a radeon 9200 ?
[19:12] <RegressLess> crucialhoax: the hotkey doesn't work
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Mrsmiley909: run: sudo nvidia-xconfig then reboot, log in and run: gksudo nvidia-settings ,set the res then click "save to x config file"
[19:13] <crucialhoax> RegressLess: So the wireless is stuck off?
[19:13] <gunther44> thanks ActionParsnip, where do i dl the drivers? from nvidia themselves?
[19:13] <RegressLess> crucialhoax: your guess is a good as mine
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Vlar: the open driver will support it afaik
[19:13] <crucialhoax> 2 over 4 in fractions is .5 right? just checking lol
[19:13] <crucialhoax> RegressLess: `ifconfig -a`
[19:13] <vlar> ActionParsnip afaik?
[19:13] <crucialhoax> vlar: as far as i know
[19:13] <ange> can a Ubuntu Server Cloud ed provide amazon S3 services ?
[19:14] <lorenz> how do i check what version (alpha-beta-rc) is on my computer?
[19:14] <Pici> ange: Best to ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:14] <padhu> cd will not mount automatically and when i try to mount in GUi mode, it through error message
[19:14] <shellmaster555_> hi, how can i make a bootable pd with MHDD?? i trying: dd if=MHDD.iso of=/dev/sdb, but that isn't work. HELP
[19:14] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip clip & zoom options?
[19:15] <RegressLess> crucialhoax: OK, that spit out some jibberish
[19:16] <gunther44> guess ActionParsnip's battery has died? :)
[19:16] <ange> Pici: thanks
[19:16] <vlar> crucialhoax tx
[19:16] <vlar> ActionParsnip i was thinking that but obviously i've trouble to launch 3D app why that ?
[19:17] <jad> hello, how do i open filestypes other than 1 (exectuable command)
[19:17] <sanidhya> I get this error when I login to ubuntu :"ubuntu is running in low graphics mode"
[19:18] <Commie_Cary> I am getting the following error when using apt-get
[19:18] <Commie_Cary> E: The package libproc-processtable-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it!
[19:18] <davek> #php
[19:18] <isolat3dsh33p> sanidhya, what hardware?
[19:18] <jad> for example I searched for apropos -a apt conf and found a command called apt.conf (5)
[19:18] <vlar> Commie_Cary is your ubuntu is a fresh install?
[19:18] <isolat3dsh33p> sanidhya, what's your graphic card?
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> vlar, fresh? no.
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> Its been installed for 3 years
[19:19] <Pici> jad: Can you rephrase your question?
[19:19] <RegressLess> ActionParsnip: what I found tells me to install things, but I have no internet without wireless
[19:19] <wise_crypt> Commie_Cary: use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[19:19] <vlar> Lenin_CAt so u'll know better than me ;)
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> wise_crypt, its a one-liner
[19:19] <Lenin_CAt> vlar, what?
[19:20] <Pici> jad: Are you asking how to open manpages for a specific manpage section?
[19:20] <vlar> Lenin_CAt you're an expert with 3years running ubuntu
[19:20] <jad> Pici, i want to find a way to configure apt, i found the command apt.conf but its not of typeset 1 (executable command), how can i use it hen
[19:20] <Lenin_Cat> no im not a expert
[19:20] <jad> *then
[19:20] <Lenin_Cat> I just use it
[19:20] <costre> Reinstalling is king
[19:21] <llutz> jad: man -k apt.conf
[19:21] <Lenin_Cat> costre, I have bad memory, so it would fail
[19:21] <jad> burger is king
[19:21] <llutz> jad: "man man"
[19:21] <Pici> jad: apropos is for searching manpages.  'apt.conf' is in section 5, which is the section for files.  You cannot execute apt.conf.
[19:21] <Pici> jad: What are you trying to change in your apt configuration?
[19:21] <costre> Lenin_Cat, You get over the losses
[19:21] <Lenin_Cat> costre, what?
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> I have bad memory
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> the installation would fail
[19:22] <MrSmiley909> I am still having problems with my resolution. I configured my xorg.conf correctly and when gdm starts, the resolution looks like 1920x1200 (my screens default) but when I login, the screen blanks and the resolution changes to 1280x1024.
[19:22] <npope> ubottu: beta?
[19:22] <jad> software sources, i can do it with the ubuntu tool, i just wanna do it cli
[19:22] <brohism> What repo for karmic do I need to add to install icecast2?
[19:22] <jad> Pici,
[19:22] <Pici> jad: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:22] <npope> ubottu: beta!
[19:22] <costre> Lenin_Cat, If you lose something you feel was important, you get over it eventually
[19:22] <jad> thx
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> OMG
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> get this through your head
[19:22] <Pici> npope: What are you looking for?
[19:22] <Lenin_Cat> I have BAD MEMORY
[19:22] <costre> Lenin_Cat, Do a thorough search through the system
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> it would fail
[19:23] <costre> :D
[19:23] <jad> but how do i run non-1 typesets
[19:23] <npope> Pici: channel to talk about beta ubuntu
[19:23] <Pici> npope: #ubuntu+1
[19:23] <npope> Pici: thank you sir
[19:23] <jad> or how can i see their help or man or smnth
[19:23] <npope> Pici++
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> costre, do you know what bad memory means
[19:23] <jad> thx Pici
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> it means my ram is DAMAGED
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> if I install
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> reinstall
[19:23] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Please calm down.
[19:23] <Lenin_Cat> it would fail with a read/write error
[19:23] <webmasteroli> hi
[19:23] <KaiForce> &*(^(%$ Ubuntu boned me
[19:23] <Sliderman> hi, can someone tell me a command for checking what network card do i use?
[19:23] <mishpish> join #joomla
[19:23] <costre> Lenin_Cat, Oh .. I thought .. you know what I thought
[19:23] <webmasteroli> ive tired asking this question in ubuntu-server but no one has responded.
[19:23] <mishpish> ha, sorry
[19:24] <webmasteroli> ive installed ebox on my domain however it seems the login system hasnt installed correctly.
[19:24] <webmasteroli> ive followed the WIKIs instructions and ive tried everything possible.
[19:24] <brohism> What repo for karmic do I need to add to install icecast2?
[19:24] <wise_crypt> Sliderman: try hwinfo
[19:25] <Pici> brohism: Its in universe
[19:25] <crucialhoax> Sliderman: lshw -C Network
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> so dose anyone know how to fix it?
[19:25] <crucialhoax> Lenin_Cat: Replace the RAM.
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> im not talking about my bad memory
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> im talking about my apt-get error
[19:25] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Can you restate your original question?
[19:25] <Lenin_Cat> memory has little to nothing to do with it
[19:26] <KaiForce> ActionParsnip:  there is no Windows entry in the grub.d.  Nor did it exist before.  I think the 30_os_prober script created it.  Apparently that function is broken with the last update I did
[19:26] <gelegrodan> can somebody help me with a broken raid + lvm ?
[19:26] <Lenin_Cat> E: The package libproc-processtable-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! when I run apt-get
[19:26] <costre> gelegrodan, Try running palimpsest and see what it says
[19:26] <brohism> Pici: thanks
[19:26] <Sliderman> crucialhoax , tnx it worked
[19:26] <crucialhoax> Sliderman: No problem.
[19:27] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libproc-processtable-perl
[19:27] <crucialhoax> Lenin_Cat: `sudo apt-get install -f` or `sudo apt-get check`?
[19:27] <_pg_> im really stupid. where do i get tor executable. I installed vidalia from software center but it didnt come with tor for some reason
[19:28] <gelegrodan> costre: problem is i can read two partions of it, /boot and / but not the third one..with /home and /var ..
[19:28] <Lenin_Cat> http://pastebin.com/rGtpA7az
[19:28] <Lenin_Cat> Pici,
[19:28] <gelegrodan> costre: its a raid 1 lvm..
[19:28] <Lenin_Cat> crucialhoax, same error
[19:28] <Vitor>
[19:29] <LzrdKing> are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering (hoping!) if its due to DPMS
[19:29] <Lenin_Cat> Pici, did you get the pastebin?
[19:30] <ERINALDO> olaa
[19:30] <zongo_> Hey guys, I have an issue with my mouse cursor. It is very jumpy and goes way too fast. I have tried the option in the mouse pref but to no avail
[19:30] <ERINALDO> olaaaaaaaa
[19:30] <costre> gelegrodan, I'm no expert, I have a four-disk raid5-array that I have messed around with, disassembled, reassembled after fresh installation etc, using palimpsest .. ledsen :)
[19:30] <zongo_> I am using 9.10 and the mouse is a pc line mouse usb
[19:30] <CyberGabber>  /part
[19:30] <Pici> !br |  ERINALDO
[19:30] <Lenin_Cat> Pici?
[19:30] <ERINALDO> eyy
[19:30] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: What did you try to install before that error came up?.
[19:30] <gelegrodan> costre: no problem, i just solved it.. pjew.. alot of sites, configs, mysqls.. no backup :D
[19:31] <Lenin_Cat> Pici, cedega
[19:31] <zongo_> any other ideas much appreciated..
[19:33] <guilhermeblanco> hi guys... I have a notebook ASUS G1S and I'd like to buy a TV usb component to install on my 9.10. In my city I only found 2 available models (Encore ENUTV-2 and PixelView PV-A6600U1). Can you give me a hint on which one is supposed to work on my OS? I've only found Windows support around these devices.
[19:33] <Pici> Lenin_Cat: Try to remove/move both .bin files from /var/cache/apt/
[19:34] <Lenin_Cat> Pici, fixed it
[19:34] <Lenin_Cat> the gpg key for mediubuntu wasnt working
[19:34] <Lenin_Cat> no idea why that had to do with it
[19:34] <xangua> Lenin_Cat: is medibuntu still down¿
[19:35] <Lenin_Cat> I guess so
[19:35] <crucialhoax> xangua: No it is up no.
[19:35] <crucialhoax> I used it last night.
[19:35] <zongo_> it's up
[19:35] <zongo_> me too
[19:35] <xangua> o-)
[19:40] <Shambat> I'm running ubuntu server and I have a wifi adapter connected to it, which works fine, it seems to lose its connection after some time of idleing though ... is there some way to prevent this?
[19:40] <bsmith093> hi there can anyone tell me how to transfer the complete contents of a hardrive using win 96 on the computer and ubuntu on the reciever with just a serial cable
[19:40] <SpamapS> Shambat: maybe ping the default gateway every 30 seconds?
[19:41] <bsmith093> the long thing gray with a 25 pin thing at both ends
[19:41] <Shambat> SpamapS: yeah that could work
[19:41] <Losha> guilhermeblanco: the mythtv guys are the experts on which tv cards work with linux. Try #mythtv-users if you don't get an answer here....
[19:42] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[19:43] <flaco> hi all... someone where is gthread-2.0 on karmic?? I got installed libglib-dev
[19:44] <vak> hi all
[19:45] <vak> what is the best file system to store a big number of 1-7 Kb files in a directory?
[19:46] <bsmith093> serial transfer from windows 95 to ubuntu anyone
[19:46] <bsmith093> any ideas
[19:46] <imbeowulf> Does anyone have experience with imapsync? I want to migrate e-mail from an imap-server(A) to gmail(B). It works, only I don't understand how to apply a label to the e-mails that came from A.
[19:46] <bsmith093> how to use a serial cable
[19:46] <xplinux> I have a HP Pavilion dv9000 and I have installed the operating system based in ylmfos 9.10, but the sound of the computer is turned on and off continuously with this system opeativo, this happens with ubuntu 9.10, with ubuntu 9.04 jaunty not happen
[19:47] <genii> bsmith093: You just need to copy data off or you want o make an image or so of the hd?
[19:47] <xplinux> based in ubuntu 9.10
[19:47] <lorenz> xplinux just wait for 10.4 :) and ask again then
[19:48] <bsmith093> genii: i have a serial cable( i think) and a very old laptop running windows 95 that i just bought i would like to get absolutely every single file off of it onto something more modern like the ubuntu box im typijng on right now how do i do that
[19:48] <LzrdKing> are DPMS calls logged in Xorg.log?  I can't get to my logs right now but my one monitor keeps shutting off and i'm wondering (hoping!) if its due to DPMS
[19:49] <LzrdKing> bsmith093: use ethernet
[19:49] <bsmith093> i cant it doeant hav an ethernet port its that old
[19:50] <genii> bsmith093: Install SLIP on each box, assign static IPs network them together with the serial cable
[19:50] <xplinux> lorenz ylmfos for ubuntu only is for ubuntu 9.10
[19:50] <Oer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[19:50] <genii> bsmith093: Although if 25 pins you may have there a printer cable
[19:50] <bsmith093> is slip for windows 95 too
[19:50] <genii> bsmith093: Yes
[19:50] <xplinux> and this version is closed
[19:51] <xangua> xplinux: this channel is only for ubuntu; not others based on ubuntu distros
[19:51] <slow-motion> hi
[19:51] <bsmith093> genii: can u point me to a walkthrough of how to domthis
[19:51] <genii> bsmith093: eg: http://sunsite.nus.sg/pub/nusslip/win95.html     shows how to install SLIP on 95 (the example there is for their systems but still useful)
[19:53] <xplinux> xangua ylmfos is a ubuntu 9.10 with skin of xp windows
[19:54] <Oer> xplinux maybe that skin is troubling the soundsystem. did you check the forum of ylmfos ?
[19:54] <xplinux> xagua http://www.dosbit.com/general/ylmfos-ubuntu-que-parece-windows-xp
[19:54] <xangua> xplinux: why not using the official ubuntu¿
[19:55] <Scunizi> Can someone look at my smb.conf file and perhaps tell me why the shared directories are not allowing 777 permissions even with unauthenticated guests? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/C06LEcD5
[19:55] <xplinux> because is a ubntu for users windows is the linux more easier
[19:55] <Pici> xplinux: We do not support ylmfos here.  Please use their support for help.
[19:55] <xplinux> easier
[19:56] <xangua> xplinux: no it's not if your native language is spanish and the lymfos is chinnese :S
[19:56] <guntbert> !nickspam > ceil420
[19:56] <heauxbag> i'm trying to connect to an active postgresql database from another machine. netstat lists the port (5432) as listening, and i set iptables to accept connections, but the connection keeps timing out from the other machine. anyone know what could be causing this?
[19:57] <xplinux> i think that ylmfos  hasnt support is a software chine
[19:57] <penthief> Where can I find the USB block devices? I have /dev/usbmon, but not /dev/usb[0-6]
[19:57] <xplinux> the support must be from ubuntu
[19:57] <Pici> xplinux: It is not Ubuntu, therefore we do not support it.  Period.
[19:57] <heauxbag> the postgresql log doesnt list any failed connections or any other activity, so im assuming ubuntu is blocking the connection
[19:58] <lorenz> xplinux: just go to ubuntu its worth the learning curve
[19:58] <SpamapS> heauxbag: iptables -L -n -v      do you see any REJECT or DROP's in there?
[19:58] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[19:59] <penthief> I'm trying to mount a USB external drive from a recovery shell, but I cannot see the device -- where will it be?
[19:59] <heauxbag> SpamapS: no, i see no REJECT or DROP
[19:59] <cached_> Hey how do I change my command prompt to say something else in my terminal?
[20:00] <cached_> anyone here?
[20:00] <Pici> cached_: Modify $PS1 and/or $PS2
[20:00] <Losha> cached_: 1627 people are in this channel currently...
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> cached_, $PS1 can be found in ~/.bashrc typically
[20:01] <heauxbag> cached: edit the .bashrc in your home directory. add a line that says PS1='<yourstuffhere>'
[20:01] <pagore> hey, guzy, does someone know something about Shell-scripting? :)   I have 38 lines of shell, and i cant find my mistake :(
[20:01] <heauxbag> save it and then type in 'source ~/.bashrc
[20:01] <heauxbag> '
[20:01] <Pici> pagore: Ask in #bash
[20:01] <drmagoo> cached_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
[20:01] <Losha> penthief: run the dmesg command and see if it mentions your usb device and tells you the /dev name of it...
[20:01] <pagore> ah ok ty
[20:02] <KG43123> :|
[20:02] <heauxbag> here's what my netstat and iptables are telling be about my postgresql connections: http://dpaste.com/186621/
[20:02] <heauxbag> i still cant figure out why its not allowing incoming connections
[20:03] <heauxbag> is it only allowing localhost connection?
[20:03] <SpamapS> heauxbag: tcpdump -n -i eth0 port 5432 and host your.source.ip.address    do you see the SYN packet coming in? Do you see lots of stuff going both directions?
[20:03] <lorenz> does someone know how to get java (in browser) working?
[20:03] <Pici> heauxbag: Where are you trying to connect from?
[20:03] <penthief> heauxbag: nc -zvv postgres-server 5432
[20:03] <SpamapS> heauxbag: yeah looks like its listening on <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:03] <SpamapS> though that would normally produce a quick "connection refused"
[20:04] <Pici> heauxbag: postgres is only listening on localhost, that means that only localhost can connect.  You need to modify your postgres config file to have it listen on <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:04] <heauxbag> Pici: trying to connect from my machine
[20:04] <heauxbag> Pici: ok, ill change that. i assumed it would do what SpamapS said and just refuse the connection. it's been timing out.
[20:05] <biborn> hello
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, if you are using Firefox simply install sun-java6-plugin
[20:05] <skorasaurus> !swap
[20:05] <lorenz> zykotick9: no im using google chrome
[20:05] <biborn> does anybody know how to run gedit in ubuntu using root??
[20:05] <heauxbag> sudo gedit?
[20:05] <xangua> lorenz: it should work
[20:06] <Pici> biborn: gksudo gedit
[20:06] <xangua> biborn: use gksu; not sudo ;)
[20:06] <arand> biborn: "gksudo gedit"
[20:06] <penthief> Losha: Thanks, it's in there. dmesg also says: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning...
[20:06] <skorasaurus> in the terminal.
[20:06] <drmagoo> I have 2 boxes on seperate dsl's, they have the same hardware. Both running ubuntu 9.10 only diffrence is that #2 is a fresh install. This rule gets accepted on both machines "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24  -j MASQUERADE". But only works on machine #1 not on #2. Anyone got any ideas?
[20:06] <biborn> no.. imean not using admin or uyser..the real root
[20:06] <cached_> Well bash rc is huge and I can find the ps1 commands I want, how do I add the date and working directory?
[20:06] <skorasaurus> biborn, that is the real root.
[20:06] <lorenz> xangua: im using lucid... and installed java runtime
[20:06] <fooledbyprimes> test
[20:06] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java what i did on 64bit Lucid
[20:06] <fooledbyprimes> can anyone see me?  or do i have to register?
[20:07] <skorasaurus> fooledbyprimes, we can see you.
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> fooledbyprimes, we see you
[20:07] <skorasaurus> no reg is necessary.
[20:07] <penthief> fooledbyprimes: you have to register
[20:07] <fooledbyprimes> thanks.
[20:07] <lorenz> zykotick9: oh is it something like flash 64bit in 9.10? xD
[20:07] <wise_crypt> !sudo > biborn
[20:07] <biborn> ok ic..then,anybody know how to get connected to internet using my ZTE usb modem??
[20:07] <fooledbyprimes> i registered but lost my pwd.  what the heck is the command to REAUTH?
[20:07] <dean> Hi, is anyone willing to test my ssh server by trying to connect from the outside for me? It will only take two seconds of your time, message me! thank you
[20:07] <skorasaurus> I was wondering at what point should my swap start be used (at 40% of my ram being used ? or more ?)
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, i just use ubuntu-restricted-extras on my 64 - but yes similar to flash64
[20:08] <cached_> I need to change my command prompt to display the date time and current directory, what is the terminal command?
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> lorenz, also if you are using lucid you really should be using the #ubuntu+1 channel for support ;)
[20:08] <lorenz> zykotick9: thanks for the link :)
[20:08] <lorenz> ok will do :)
[20:08] <skorasaurus> right now, about 80% of my ram is being used, according to free but none of my swap is being used.
[20:08] <wise_crypt> biborn: google first then ask
[20:09] <cached_> Yah your getting ass raped
[20:09] <penthief> Trying to mount drive from recovery shell: I have from dmesg "usb-storage: device found at 3" where is the device file I should mount?
[20:09] <fooledbyprimes> sorry to bug you all but anyone know how to get freenode to reset password?
[20:09] <cached_> these channel arent safe
[20:09] <BedMan> cached_: for bash (and sh, to a limited extent) modify the "PS1" environment variable
[20:09] <cached_> well no shit
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> !language | cached_
[20:09] <Bearman> Does anyone know how to edit the "files and folders" tab in UNR 9.10?
[20:09] <SeaPhor> fooledbyprimes, ask on #freenode
[20:10] <cached_> ps1="?"
[20:10] <dean> Hi, is anyone willing to test my server by trying to connect from the outside for me? It will only take two seconds of your time, message me! thank you
[20:10] <BedMan> cached_: export PS1=...
[20:10] <BedMan> cached_: case is important to unix
[20:10] <Losha> penthief: the 'settling' message is normal. Does it eventually produce a /dev/something name?
[20:12] <cached_> PS1="\d\t\W" I just want to add the path so i can just put pwd?
[20:12] <guntbert> !google | wise_crypt
[20:12] <fooledbyprimes> thanks SeaPhor
[20:12] <BedMan> skorasaurus: swap isn't used until physical ram is exhausted, except in preallocating OS's like solaris
[20:12] <Da5iD101> I'm seeing UDP network traffic to/from my desktop.  I see that it's coming from java, but how do I tell what program is using java?
[20:13] <penthief> Losha: Thanks! it was /dev/disk/by-label/LaCie . Got it mounted now... time to backup.
[20:13] <wise_crypt> guntbert: they better learn that way
[20:13] <BedMan> cached_: check on the bash man page (which is quite long)
[20:13] <Losha> penthief: excellent...
[20:13] <un1x01d> Da5iD101, lsof ?
[20:13] <guntbert> wise_crypt: please don't - this is a help channel
[20:13] <cached_> Does anyone know the command to add the path to the command prompt?
[20:14] <flaco> hi all... someone where is gthread-2.0 on karmic?? I got installed libglib-dev
[20:14] <cached_> !anyone | cached
[20:14] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[20:15] <LzrdKing> wise_crypt: many times the asker has already been googling for a while before asking
[20:15] <cached_> Does anyone know the command to add the current working directory to the prompt?
[20:15] <LzrdKing> cached_: its in man bash
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> cached_, that's not really a good idea, for security reasons
[20:15] <cached_> This is for school
[20:15] <cached_> its ok
[20:16] <Da5iD101> un1x01d: I saw that all connections were port 59550 and used lsof to see that it was java.  lsof will tell me what app is using java for those connections?
[20:16] <cached_> Its the school fedora server so it doesnt matter
[20:16] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: He's talking about PS1, not PATH
[20:16] <cached_> yah ps1
[20:16] <BedMan> cached_: export PS1="${PWD}[\u@\h]\$ "
[20:16] <cached_> ty bedman
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, ahhh ok - that's not bad.  cached_
[20:16] <bastid_raZor> cached_: PATH=$PATH:/path/to/be/added
[20:16] <BedMan> cached_: yw :-)
[20:16] <LzrdKing> ZykoticK9: how does security matter when you could type pwd at any time anyway?
[20:17] <penthief> Now I'm trying to find out what went wrong with my laptop. What does it mean when 'ls foo' lists 'foo' with a red background?
[20:17] <BedMan> cached_: but you really should read the bash man page
[20:17] <wise_crypt> LzrdKing: then it will be a smart question
[20:17] <bastid_raZor> LzrdKing: pwd is print working directory??
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> LzrdKing, my bad - though he wanted to add pwd to PATH
[20:17] <skorasaurus> BedMan: k, thanks. I looked through dmesg, and my kernel log to see if it was recently activated but nothing related to swap was in there and I froze to a near stop about 20 minutes ago, is there a place to detect whether my swap was used ?
[20:17] <LzrdKing> bastid_raZor: yes
[20:17] <esposj> Does anyone know how to change the local root password for a  box that does all other logins via AD?
[20:17] <LzrdKing> ZykoticK9: now THAT is a security concern
[20:17] <esposj> Get a passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[20:18] <esposj> pa.fio
[20:18] <esposj> oops
[20:18] <esposj>  when the passwd command is run for root.
[20:18] <wise_crypt> !networking
[20:18] <JoeSomebody> hello, in a business lan with windows boxes , a ubuntu should have (ideally) what virus protection?
[20:18] <BedMan> esposj: look at the man page for passwd - I believe there is a way to point it at the /etc/passwd file instead of what's in the nss_switch file
[20:19] <JoeSomebody> what works with ubuntu?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> !virus | JoeSomebody
[20:19] <Pici> JoeSomebody: clamav is often used.
[20:19] <JoeSomebody> thanks but I already know that
[20:19] <bastid_raZor> JoeSomebody: clamtk clamav is a good option
[20:19] <JoeSomebody> the bot thing i mean
[20:19] <coachj> trying to copy mp3s off my sansa to my music folder getting following error" -6: Not Supported" can someone shed some light on this?
[20:20] <un1x01d> Da5iD101, well, you can compare your finding with netstat, if that doesn't give you anything i would start probing headers or tcpdump on that port
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> looking for business protection, as in this box can scan the others
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> linux is better to scan the whole lan than a win box
[20:20] <cached_> Yah Ive been working on reading it somewhat, but there are a lot of pages I need to man still and I was in a bit of a rush, thanks for you help
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> question is what to use
[20:20] <Pici> JoeSomebody: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[20:20] <JoeSomebody> ok
[20:21] <JoeSomebody> thanks
[20:21] <xplinux> i think than the distro ylmfos based in ubuntu 9.10  made in chine dont have support and their support must be the ubuntu service
[20:22] <Da5iD101> un1x01d: Thanks.  I looked further into it with lsof and saw that it was freenet.. I don't even remember installing that.  Now I'm looking at how to remove it.
[20:22] <ceil420> guntbert: gtfo my nick change. i've changed my nick to something and back once on this network in like a year+, and it was several minutes before i changed it back
[20:22] <esposj> BedMan: I don't see anything (and didn't before I came here :) )
[20:22] <ceil420> guntbert: you don't tell everyone else to idle 24/7 so they don't spam join/part/quit messages, do you?
[20:22] <JoeSomebody> i am helping these guys, they are willing to buy av
[20:22] <Pici> xplinux: That is not an official derivative and we do not support it.  Please stop assuming that we do.
[20:23] <JoeSomebody> like mcafee avira kasperksy eset, do any of those work on ubuntu?
[20:23] <un1x01d> Da5iD101, sure thing, i'm sure you can take it from here :)
[20:23] <NateWiebe> for some reason, my monitor is displaying multiple copies of the desktop.. this only happens with ubuntu. ???
[20:23] <NateWiebe> (4 cursors, each one to the right gets more and more transparent though)
[20:24] <xplinux> pici in this page say than ylmfos ubuntu 9.10 have own support? file:///usr/share/ylmf-artwork/index.html
[20:24] <Pici> JoeSomebody: Wikipedia says they do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Anti-virus_applications
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> NateWiebe, are you by chance using a Nvidia GeForce 9200M GE?
[20:24] <drmagoo> I have 2 boxes on seperate dsl's, they have the same hardware. Both running ubuntu 9.10 only diffrence is that #2 is a fresh install. This rule gets accepted on both machines "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24  -j MASQUERADE". But only works on machine #1 not on #2. Anyone got any ideas?
[20:25] <NateWiebe> geforce 220gt
[20:25] <Pici> xplinux: We do not and cannot support ylmfos.  If you want support from us then you need to be using Ubuntu.  Please stop asking.
[20:25] <guntbert> ceil420: no need to get upset please - it was intended as a gentle reminder - thats why I sent it in PM  - and as for the joins/parts -- those I told my client to hide in large channels :-)
[20:25] <NateWiebe> ZykoticK9: geforce 220gt, i also have this issue on an onboard intel
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> NateWiebe, I don't have any answer for you but the following LP question reports a similar issue (no answers yet) https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/108149
[20:26] <xplinux> pici but this distro is the same than ubuntu but with other skin  , skin xp
[20:26] <coachj> No one knows why I would get this error -6: Not Supported while trans files from mp3 to music folder?
[20:26] <cyy> is there some way to say "only allow process X to use n GB of RAM, then force it into swap space even if more RAM is available"?
[20:27] <ceil420> guntbert: i come here to help users, not get harassed by the staff every time i even look like i may start to begin thinking of toeing the line. you're not the first op to jump on my case over nothing, and i imagine the one that does it after this will recieve a harsher response :|
[20:27] <cyy> or the same for a user instead of a specific process?
[20:27] <Pici> xplinux: No. Its not.  I don't want to have to remove you from the channel for this, so please stop asking.
[20:28] <guntbert> ceil420: may I pm you?
[20:28] <NateWiebe> ZykoticK9: not the same issue, i almost want to call it ghosting, but i dont know if that is the correct word. everything is a bit fuzzy, and there are about 5 versions of the whole display that are on the monitor, they overlap and get more transparent
[20:28] <g33k3rgRL> hello, I can't find where to set the startup sound, where can i find that, and can i just replace it with another sound file?
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> NateWiebe, i'm sorry - I don't have any suggestions.  Best of luck.
[20:29] <ceil420> guntbert: you already broke that ice through your little bot-proxy. PM away, though. if i don't like what you say, i'll try to just ignore it.
[20:29] <haavaros> Is there a problem with USB sticks and ubuntu? I can't get Ubuntu to discover them
[20:29] <haavaros> ^as in pendrives
[20:29] <haavaros> They work in Win/
[20:29] <haavaros> They work in Win7
[20:29] <tucemiux> haavaros, nope, theyk work just fine
[20:30] <_blackwater_> haavaros open a terminal, type sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog and see what errors if any come up during plugging unplugging
[20:30] <ceil420> haavaros: with the drive not plugged in, do "ls /dev/" in a terminal (no quotes). then, plug the drive in and wait a few seconds and do it again. see if there's a new "sdN" entry
[20:30] <h00k> haavaros: generally they work alright.  Check dmesg | tail to see if there are any errors
[20:30] <xplinux> pici in many Spanish companies ylmfos used because it is the easiest linux ubuntu distro for their employees to be very similar to xp
[20:30] <xplinux> is used
[20:30] <azi_> my system freezed and after reboot, sound is not working anymore.. it is not muted and every player works as it should but there is no sound. any clues?
[20:31] <Pici> xplinux: So?  That doesn't mean its a supported Ubuntu variant.  Try asking in ##linux if you need support.
[20:32] <xplinux> yes becaue i dont know what is the support of ylmfos maden in chine
[20:32] <Pici> xplinux: then don't use it.
[20:33] <xplinux> but is bveryb original  a ten for their creator
[20:33] <Dmitry> pidorasi :)
[20:33] <xplinux> is very original
[20:33] <Pici> xplinux: Its still not supported here.  End of discussion.
[20:33] <IdleOne> xplinux: please stop discussing ylmf. it IS NOT supported here.
[20:33] <daz_the_farmer> why is my download speed 5 times faster on windows than on here???
[20:34] <andresp> hello people
[20:34] <h00k> !hello
[20:34] <daz_the_farmer> hello
[20:34] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  it is the servers they are coming from
[20:34] <Dmitry> poshel nahuj
[20:34] <cyy> is there some way to say "only allow process X to use n GB of RAM, then force it into swap space even if more RAM is available"?
[20:34] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  you may be hitting a server for ubuntu that is being hit hard
[20:35] <andresp> any one know a working trick to mask an ip into a USA Ip in ubuntu?
[20:35] <daz_the_farmer> how can i change servers
[20:35] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  I personally never really see a difference  unless ubuntu servers are being hit
[20:35] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  I wouldnt do that... just assume  that many are now downloading from the servers
[20:35] <andresp> anyone?
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> cyy, your suggestion doesn't make any sense, why use swap that would slow the entire system, why physical memory is available?  I doubt it's an option.
[20:36] <daz_the_farmer> ok thanx COZ
[20:36] <cyy> multiple users are using the system
[20:36] <coz_> andresp,  I am not sure   I am a dunce with networking on any level :)
[20:36] <h00k> andresp: I guess you'd have to find a proxy to use
[20:36] <cyy> so I want to limit how much physical RAM each is allocated
[20:36] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  just have some patience with it ...it will eventually speed up
[20:36] <daz_the_farmer> will try
[20:36] <coz_> daz_the_farmer,  remember ubuntu is becoming much more poplular
[20:36] <cyy> limiting it on a per-user instead of per-process basis is fine too
[20:36] <andresp> thanks h00k but in order to watch hulu proxy sucks :(
[20:37] <xplinux> where is supported ylmfos ubuntu xp?
[20:37] <daz_the_farmer> im always using ubuntu but lately slow download speed
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> xplinux, ##linux
[20:37] <andresp> I'm using tor but it really slow down network trafic
[20:37] <andresp> :(
[20:37] <daz_the_farmer> 19mb on windows about 3 on here
[20:37] <daz_the_farmer> not good
[20:37] <xplinux> now go to th link
[20:38] <IdleOne> xplinux: /join ##linux
[20:38] <zvacet> daz_the_farmer : under system>admin>software source try to cange server and see if that helps
[20:38] <pingvinqq> hi !!! anybody know how i can change my "ip" with a terminal?:D
[20:38] <daz_the_farmer> i will have a look
[20:39] <karavomi> Τηλεόραση
[20:39] <pingvinqq> PLiZZ !:D
[20:39] <Pici> !gr | karavomi
[20:39] <andresp> what you mean by changing IP ?
[20:40] <daz_the_farmer> just doing a ..select best server... see if that works
[20:40] <h00k> andresp: that's about all you can do, I suppose, is get a US proxy or a VPN of some sorts.
[20:40] <mbeierl> tried googling, can't seem to get an answer.  Does anyone here know what "livezone" is?  It installed itself and a cron job and seemed to pretend to be an HTTP daemon, but it really appears to be a bot of some sort...
[20:41] <fdsa_> anyone know where i can get some gdb help?
[20:41] <Pici> mbeierl: I don't see any packages in our archives that provide that file.... I'd check your auth log.
[20:42] <guntbert> mbeierl: I don't remember anything "installing itself" - there always had to be a "do it" with root permissions
 : watch this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[20:44] <mcsmurf> hi, are there any common problems one can make when using cfdisk + mkfs.ext3? Just wondering as I tried to partition a disk today; cfdisk then told me the partition was 41GB, but after creating the fs with mkfs.ext3 and mounted it, df -h showed me the partition had 350MB
[20:44] <mcsmurf> well, I then used gparted and that worked fine..
[20:44] <CQ> question... does or doesn't LUKS have a timeout option in /etc/crypttab ? several sites mention it, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495509 mentions it's removal ...
[20:44] <mcsmurf> s/problems/mistakes
[20:44] <CQ> looked in the crypttab manpage, didn't see it, didn't see it in mount manpage either, but sometimes those options are in other manpages where I don''t think to look...
[20:44] <dotnetted> anyone know how long an LVPM transfer of a 30GB wufi installation usually takes?
[20:45] <dotnetted> wubi*
[20:46] <mbeierl> guntbert: Pici: sorry - I just discovered this on a shared desktop machine at work.  and NO - to the best of my knowledge it did NOT come from any package.
[20:46] <Barkhorn> CQ, it is timeout=<sec> according to my manpage
[20:47] <mbeierl> guntbert: Pici: I'm just pinging here to see if anyone's heard of it.  It appears in google references from about 2004, but no one really seems to have discovered its purpose :(
[20:47] <guntbert> mbeierl: that cron job: is it  a root cron or a user cron?
[20:48] <CQ> Barkhorn: which manpage?
[20:48] <Barkhorn> CQ, crypttab
[20:48] <mbeierl> guntbert: user.
[20:49] <mbeierl> guntbert: and it appears to have been running since Feb. 2010 so the auth logs, etc, are long gone
[20:49] <CQ> Barkhorn: ??? I'm running 9.10, and my cryptsetup has the option, crypttab doesn't ...
[20:49] <guntbert> mbeierl: then you know which user installed it - ask that one
[20:49] <Barkhorn> CQ, i'm on 8.04 and the man page lists it
[20:49] <mbeierl> guntbert: they have no clue how it got there...
[20:50] <CQ> Barkhorn: look at the bug link, debian took it out at some point...
[20:50] <mbeierl> guntbert: that's why I thought I'd just do a quick ask in a public place to see if anyone recognized the term, or if it's even relevant anymore.
[20:51] <Galaxor> Is there a way to backup an ntfs partition to another ntfs partition, preserving all the ntfs-related permissions and attributes?
[20:51] <mbeierl> guntbert: it appears that it was a trojan (perhaps) of some sort that was in vogue around 6 years ago
[20:51] <guntbert> mbeierl: ah yes  - I suppose your best way is to get rid of it :-))
[20:52] <switch10_> Galaxor: you should be able to do that with rsync with the --perms option
[20:53] <mbeierl> guntbert: yep.  thanks for the ideas though.  I hate just simply "deleting things" without really knowing the root cause or the potential for damage that might have been there...
[20:53] <helo> gnome-games-common
[20:53] <switch10_> Galaxor: I have never tested rsync with NTFS myself though...  But I don't see why it wouldn't work
[20:53] <Galaxor> switch10_: What about other NTFS attributes, like "Read only" and "hidden"?
[20:53] <heauxbag> ok, i had this question before. im trying to connect to postgresql on port 5432, and the connection keeps timing out. netstat tells me its listening for tcp connections on the correct port, and this time its listening for inbound connections instead of just on localhost. iptables seems to be allowing connections too. is there anything else that could be refusing the connection?
[20:54] <heauxbag> i just talked to the guys in #postgresql, and all of the pgsql stuff should be configured to allow for inbound connections
[20:54] <joaopinto> mbeierl, is it installed as root ?
[20:54] <switch10_> Galaxor: take a look at man rsync.  the -a option should cover you...
[20:54] <guntbert> mbeierl: I know the feeling - did you *hm* search in the user's home?
[20:54] <FriedrichMan> hey
[20:54] <mbeierl> joaopinto: no, fortunately not.  It was just as a user and their crontab
[20:54] <Exposure531> evening
[20:54] <mbeierl> guntbert: YES :) !
[20:55] <FriedrichMan> how can I do a reverse ip lookup from console
[20:55] <llutz> FriedrichMan: dig -x
[20:55] <Pici> FriedrichMan: dig -x
[20:55] <erUSUL> FriedrichMan: dig ? whois ?
[20:55] <mbeierl> guntbert: oddly, I found a .livezone directory complete with a makefile of some sort.
[20:55] <Name141> Hello, I installed Ubuntu on an old machine and restart works without a hitch.  However, when I go to shut the machine down I get "system halted" and it doesn't turn off.  Although I can hear the hard drive spin down and click off.
[20:55] <Galaxor> switch10_: Y'know, I don't think --perms would work, though, because the linux driver for ntfs ignores the NTFS groups/users/permissions and mounts it so that everything on the NTFS filesystem appears to have the same user, group, and permissions.
[20:56] <guntbert> mbeierl: the date of that directory could give a hint...
[20:56] <Galaxor> switch10_:  that's why everything appears to be executable when I look at my NTFS partition.
[20:56] <FriedrichMan> mmm... maybe it's not exactly what I am talking about... I mean I found this site http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/web-sites-on-web-server/  with this tool to find out what websites are hosted on a server... and was wondering if that's possible from console
[20:56] <Name141> Then I have to press the power button for it to go completly off.
[20:57] <duffydack> I`d personally just either dd or clonezilla
[20:57] <Galaxor> switch10_:  I guess there's a chance that the ntfs driver implements the NTFS attributes as "ext3 acls", and rsync knows how to read those.
[20:57] <duffydack> to clone an ntfs
[20:57] <switch10_> Galaxor: yeah I wouldn't know for sure.  I can't remember the last time Ive used NTFS.  all I could suggest is test it with a single small dir to see if it does what you want
[20:57] <LzrdKing> clonezilla?
[20:57] <Nehmulos> clonezilla rocks
[20:57] <Galaxor> duffydack:  That's what I've been doing, but I don't like that I have to clone the entire filesystem, rather than syncing.
[20:58] <mbeierl> guntbert: the "src" files date to 2004.  some of the executable output dates at 2010 Feb 28.  User does not recall anything on that date
[20:58] <melanie_> -m irc.tweakers.net
[20:58] <Name141> is the power managetment settings needing to be changed or something?
[20:58] <LzrdKing> Name141: sounds lie it doen't have a "soft" power switch.  AT maybe?
[20:59] <Dandre1> hello,
[20:59] <Name141> LzrdKing: This never happened in XP or 98 SE
[20:59] <joaopinto> mbeierl, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/y2kupdate-denial-of-service-vulnerability-769247/
[20:59] <LzrdKing> Name141: then maybe it is the pwer settings somewhere, but i don;t know
[20:59] <guntbert> mbeierl: I was thinking about ls -ld .livezone    -- the date of the directory itself :-) - but if the user "doesn't remember" then .... (but I guess it was enough to warn him off for the future :-))
[21:00] <TomG> Name141: I have that same issue only when I turn the ACPI off (my DVD drive doesn't work otherwise).
[21:00] <joaopinto> it's a bot which exploits phpMyAdmin
[21:00] <Name141> TomG: Is it possible the old BIOS needs updating?
[21:00] <Dandre1> I have found sun-java 1.6.20 aparamently for karmic here: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java6/
[21:00] <Dandre1> but I haven't found these packages in any dist. Whta should I put in my sources.list to get those packages installed?
[21:01] <LzrdKing> mbeierl: you're dealing with users.  to paraphrase Gregory House, MD, "Users always lie"
[21:01] <mbeierl> joaopinto: That's the one!  Thanks!
[21:01] <usuario_> bin
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> Dandre1, are you using Lucid?
[21:01] <TomG> Name141: It seems possible.  I'd check the manafacturer's website.
[21:01] <Dandre1> no
[21:01] <mbeierl> guntbert: sorry - I moved the directory when I did the cleanup so the ls doesn't work anymore
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> Dandre1, ok just checkin'
[21:01] <Dandre1> only karmic
[21:01] <mbeierl> LzrdKing: hee hee, too true!
[21:01] <arand> Galaxor: fsarchiver+recent ntfs-3g can allegedly copy ntfs with all properties intact.
[21:02] <LzrdKing> so linux DOES have malware!
[21:02] <llutz> LzrdKing: surprise surprise
[21:02] <usuario_> usuario/bin dev
[21:02] <Name141> "[24699.572389] system halted"
[21:02] <guntbert> mbeierl: of course you did :-) and in the meantime someone found out what it was :-)
[21:02] <usuario_> pibng
[21:02] <usuario_> ping
[21:02] <LzrdKing> just not *viruses*
[21:02] <ubuntu> can you get fspot on xubuntu
[21:03] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: yes
[21:03] <ubuntu> sebsebseb thankyou
[21:03] <screenshot> hi First of all I apologize. I do not know English. I did this translation at translate.google.com. Usb wireless adapter, since my version of Ubuntu 9.04 is not used. Ralink 3070 chipset devices. How do I find a solution to this problem?
[21:03] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: you can run most Ubuntu/Gnome programs in Xubuntu as well
[21:03] <joaopinto> LzrdKing, there are been virus/bots exploiting known security vulnerabilities a long time ago, years and years ago :)
[21:03] <ubuntu> I just noticed my username, I am on a live cd, it must be the defult
[21:04] <TomG> LzrdKing: There are viruses.  The thing is, after you take out the ones that don't work anymore / on your distro, you end up with very few actually harmful.
[21:04] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: altough,  f-spot is a Mono app, it's not realy a Gnome app.  just wanted to be clear there
[21:04] <sebsebseb> ubuntulog: most programs that will run in Ubuntu will also work in Xubuntu, that's what I mean
[21:04] <LzrdKing> can someont give me a command line solution for detecting when my wireless card disconnects, then reconnect it?  iwconfig still showed the essis but it wasn't associated
[21:04] <ubuntu> sebsebseb thankyou
[21:04] <LzrdKing> essid*
[21:04] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: np
[21:05] <Name141> "system halted" sort of like "It's now safe to turn off your computer" in windows talk?
[21:05] <Name141> is*
[21:05] <TechMondo> hello
[21:05] <dotnetted> I used the LVPM tool to transfer my Wubi installation to /dev/sda6. When I boot I see a grub menu with only "Unknown OS" and "Windows". If I choose "Unknown OS" it takes me to the original Wubi bootloader. Any ideas appreciated ;)
[21:05] <mbeierl> joaopinto: guntbert: the good news is this "dos" never appeared to have occurred.  The proc has been active for months now and the box that it was on remained passive :)  Teaches us not to ignore shared desktops
[21:05] <LzrdKing> Name141: it means the cpu has powered down
[21:05] <stones> Ok guys, your netbook install sucks :/
[21:05] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, have a look at nm-tool output
[21:06] <stones> heh, ive tried on several netbooks and no luck.
[21:06] <LzrdKing> Name141: and you can safetly turn it off
[21:06] <Name141> LzrdKing: meaning it should be safe to just press the power button for the machine to go off?
[21:06] <sebsebseb> LzrdKing: malware can be made for modern versions of Linux distro's however it's not that likely,  since how Linux distros tend to be designed so to be mor secure than Windows,  but also the lack of market share
[21:06] <Name141> LzrdKing: OK ,other than annoyance I should be OK?
[21:06] <joaopinto> mbeierl, how you know it has been passive, how do you known it didn't infect other machines :) ?
[21:06] <synapse> can someone tell me what the 2>&1 when piping a command to /dev/null means?  $command > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[21:06] <LasseK> Hello, are there any known problems with watching movies straight from an NTFS partition?
[21:06] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, tick tick - the market share thing is a quasi-myth.  Look at servers, why infect desktops when servers would have so much more power/inpact.
[21:07] <synapse> or where to lookup redirection for shell scripting
[21:07] <LzrdKing> i thikn the "lack of market share" is meaningless; there are/were viruses for mobile devices that had tiny market shares
[21:07] <erUSUL> synapse: redirect both stdout and stderr
[21:07] <TechMondo> Name141 do you want to join my channel?
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, s/tick/tisk
[21:07] <LzrdKing> Name141: definitely
[21:07] <Name141> TechMondo: ?
[21:07] <stones> who use ubuntu servers?
[21:07] <amosek> synapse: it redirects error messages as well
[21:07] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: i will check out nm-tool
[21:07] <TomG> synapse: /dev/null means get rid of it.
[21:07] <joaopinto> ZykoticK9, except that servers are usually managed by skilled people, unlike desktops :)
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> stones, linux servers
[21:08] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: most of the web is run by Linux or Unix servers,  and yes they do get attacked as far as I know quite a lot of them a lot of the time,  and how often do you hear about a website being broken in to?  not that often at all,  and if you do it probablyy was run by Windows ,  and yep  off topic
[21:08] <duffydack> Macs have a larget market share than linux, not as many as windows but still a nice chunk.. how come more virus/malware are not focused on them ?
[21:08] <synapse> so it pipes all stdout/sderr messages to /dev/null while doing the entire thing in the background?
[21:08] <duffydack> larget=larger*
[21:08] <LzrdKing> synapse: 2>&1 means "send file descriptor 2 (stderr) to the same place as descriptor 1 (stdout)
[21:08] <synapse> err, not pipes, redirects
[21:08] <TomG> duffydack: Mac is linux
[21:08] <sebsebseb> duffydack: Mac OS X is  Unix based/like just like Linux distros are
[21:08] <llutz> joaopinto: not today, where every "i hate win" n00b runs xx public services or vps without a bit of a clue
[21:08] <duffydack> TomG, sebsebseb is it really all its down to ?
[21:09] <synapse> its some stupid question I have for this "scripting assessment"
[21:09] <ulziibuyan> how can i find out the physical address of Canonical Ltd.?
[21:09] <amosek> synapse: and then everything to /dev/null
[21:09] <stones> i keep getting read/write errors when trying to install netbook
[21:09] <synapse> and I never have used some crazy command like that before
[21:09] <ubuntu> who here does not like the move towards ubuntu one and the music store?
[21:09] <TomG> duffydack: Yes and macs are only about 5-10% of the market.
[21:09] <sebsebseb> duffydack: that's one reason,  plus most computer users that don't know how to keep a computer secure enough, run Windows
[21:09] <synapse> I just googled 2>&1 and was surprised it had all the info I needed
[21:09] <sebsebseb> duffydack: and that's a lot of people
[21:09] <synapse> didn;t think that would google right
[21:09] <ulziibuyan> how can i find out the physical address of Canonical Ltd.? =)
[21:10] <TechMondo> YUHH
[21:10] <stones> anyone here use backtrack?
[21:10] <joaopinto> ulziibuyan, check www.canonical.com ?
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack > stones
[21:10] <stones> ubuntu isnt detecting my wireless card
[21:10] <LzrdKing> synapse, to tell you the truth, i would thing so either, i'd think you'd end up googling effectively for 1 2
[21:10] <LzrdKing> well 2 1
[21:10] <wise_crypt> does pidgin still works with yahoo?
[21:10] <guntbert> !ot | ubuntu
[21:10] <dagny_ta1gart> stones: try #backtrack-linux
[21:10] <ulziibuyan> joaopinta: sorry, can't find it on canonical.com
[21:10] <wng-> can anyone tell me what this in the syslog means? http://pastebin.com/PAvueKRY
[21:10] <joaopinto> ulziibuyan, http://www.canonical.com/
[21:10] <screenshot> hi First of all I apologize. I do not know English. I did this translation at translate.google.com. Usb wireless adapter, since my version of Ubuntu 9.04 is not used. Ralink 3070 chipset devices. How do I find a solution to this problem?
[21:10] <SpamapS> ulziibuyan: whois canonical.com
[21:11] <ulziibuyan> SpamapS: good idea thanks!
[21:11] <dotnetted> anyone ever encountered a grub menu option "unknown os" that directs to the original wubi grub after doing a LVPM transfer of Wubi?
[21:11] <netshine> hey, someone know good program to restore deleted information?
[21:11] <joaopinto> wng-, which ubuntu verision are you using ?
[21:11] <joaopinto> netshine, try testdisk
[21:11] <synapse> thanks all for help
[21:11] <joaopinto> erm, version
[21:11] <wng-> joaopinto: 9.04
[21:12] <joaopinto> wng-, that's an out of memory event
[21:12] <netshine> joaopinto, i was power-break, and my pc was shutdown when i was editing lyx document and now is ZERO bites...
[21:12] <dagny_ta1gart> wng: bad memory
[21:12] <erUSUL> !undelete | netshine
[21:12] <netshine> i was try to google...
[21:12] <wng-> joaopinto: does that mean insufficient memory or bad memory?
[21:12] <coachj> why would i get Error getting file: -6: Not Supported when trying to move mp3s off an mp3 player?
[21:12] <netshine> anyway, and i got backup file i think that called
[21:12] <netshine> ids.lyx~
[21:12] <joaopinto> netshine, if you were editing and it was not saved, you can't restore it
[21:12] <netshine> but its contain jybrish.
[21:12] <joaopinto> wng-, usually means insufficient
[21:13] <netshine> something that seems like web-history encrypted.
[21:13] <TomG> netshine: The testdisk package contains photorec, which I have used before to restore lost data.  It's not as nice as what you'd see on that other OS, but it does "work"
[21:13] <netshine> what about the ~ flide?
[21:13] <netshine> file*
[21:13] <wng-> joaopinto: the system has 16GB of RAM, and 8GB of swap, it shouldn't be running out of memory...
[21:13] <dagny_ta1gart> wng: you have a bad stick of ram
[21:13] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: there was a  Pidgin Yahoo issue that effected older versions of Ubuntu,  but as far as I know 9.10 currently works fine with Yahoo
[21:13] <joaopinto> wng-, if the software is bugged yes it can :)
[21:14] <netshine> anyone? :-0
[21:14] <wng-> dagny_ta1gart: alright thanks
[21:14] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: does nm-tool require X or any gnome deps?
[21:15] <wise_crypt> !pidgin
[21:16] <bondiblueos9> when I use gnu screen, it drops every other character I type :(
[21:16] <TomG> netshine: From what I remember with photorec, you run it from command line and have options on what types of files to restore
[21:16] <steven_lkz> hello! who have ever built ubuntu enterprise cloud?
[21:16] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: though i may just use NetworkManager
[21:17] <Yondering> so.. if HAL has been moved out of the boot process in 10.04, I assume it just fires off "after" boot, and that's why my box sits for two minutes at the login screen before I can enter my password? ;)
[21:17] <netshine> TomG, because it Lyx file, even scalpel dostn work.
[21:17] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, it's the console tool for networkmanager
[21:17] <snkmad> having trouble making my raid5 to automount, with write access to user
[21:17] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: i see NetworkManager is a gnome thing.  does nm-tool require gnome?
[21:18] <dotnetted> is it possible to restore grub w/out a live cd?
[21:18] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, no, just needs dbus
[21:18] <LzrdKing> oh wait, i see its NOT for gnome, never mind
[21:18] <Reckon_> Barkhorn, have you tried apt-get install in simulation mode to check if it has gnome deps ?
[21:18] <steven_lkz> why did not add region using elasticfox?
[21:18] <amosek> dotnetted: if the computer doesn't boot no
[21:18] <bondiblueos9> best command line irc client recommendations?
[21:18] <amosek> bondiblueos9: irssi?
[21:19] <snkmad> i dont know what otions to put in fstab, if i use this: /dev/md0        /media/raid  auto    defaults 0       0   only root has access
[21:19] <Barkhorn> Reckon_, there is an extra package for gnome called network-manager-gnome
[21:19] <dotnetted> amosek: im booted into a Wubi install of Ubuntu
[21:19] <netshine> how can i know which file-system
[21:19] <netshine> i have?
[21:19] <llutz> ntblkid
[21:19] <sebsebseb> netshine:  a few ways commands and such,  or simpalley answer this
[21:19] <johnwedd> greetings, i'm having trouble with the dpkg update process, i tried in aptitude and synaptic, and ran into the same problem, and i get this message http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DbtRz9Kg , please help
[21:19] <llutz> netshine:  blkid
[21:19] <sebsebseb> netshine: Which version of Ubuntu?
[21:19] <wng-> bondiblueos9: irssi
[21:19] <netshine> 10.04
[21:19] <steven_lkz> 9.10
[21:19] <dotnetted> I just can't get into the LVPM transferred copy of this wubi install on a seperate partition (grub got confuzzled)
[21:19] <amosek> dotnetted: never used wubi sorry
[21:20] <sebsebseb> netshine: oh you're on 10.04???  uhmm should be asking for support really in #ubuntu+1 then,  however as of 9.10 the default file system is  Ext4
[21:20] <dotnetted> amosek: np - thanks anyway
[21:20] <sebsebseb> netshine: for clean installs
[21:20] <Reckon_> netshine: du -T
[21:20] <TomG> netshine: I just installed it to check it out.  Doesn't seem to have that specifically in the list
[21:20] <Jork> are the newest graphic drivers for nvidia in lucyd RC opensource or not?
[21:20] <sebsebseb> !lucid | Jork
[21:20] <Reckon_> sorry, df -T
[21:21] <snkmad> i dont know what options to put in fstab, for my RAID5, if i use this, only root has access: /dev/md0        /media/raid  auto    defaults 0       0
[21:21] <steven_lkz> why was I able to add region using elasticfox?
[21:21] <johnwedd> hey guys, need a lil help
[21:21] <steven_lkz> yes
[21:21] <sebsebseb> !ask | johnwedd
[21:21] <johnwedd> greetings, i'm having trouble with the dpkg update process, i tried in aptitude and synaptic, and ran into the same problem, and i get this message http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DbtRz9Kg , please help
[21:22] <Jork> correction;  are the newest graphic drivers for nvidia in ubuntu 10.04 RC opensource or not?
[21:22] <johnwedd> i did that already :P
[21:22] <h00k> Jork: not the ones listed in Hardware Drivers, but yes
[21:22] <h00k> Jork: also, Lucid discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[21:22] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: try
[21:22] <sKAApGIF> sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[21:23] <sKAApGIF> sudo apt-get update
[21:23] <snkmad> how do i make my raid5 mount to have write access from user, not only root?
[21:23] <Jork> h00k: How can I install those wich aren't listed in hardware driwers?
[21:24] <adelcampo> i'm on an amd 64bit processor but only use 2gb of ram. should I stick with 32bit ubuntu or is the 64bit a better option still?
[21:24] <Jork> the opensource ones
[21:24] <charlie_tr> hey all
[21:24] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, thats it?
[21:24] <h00k> Jork: are you still referring to Lucid?
[21:24] <amosek> Jork: /j #ubuntu+1
[21:24] <allaze-eroler> hello*
[21:24] <Jork> yes
[21:24] <charlie_tr> i have serious problem about ubuntu
[21:24] <jeroen> wowzers
[21:24] <h00k> Jork: #ubuntu+1
[21:24] <jeroen> i'm in
[21:24] <charlie_tr> i think ubuntu does not support my video card
[21:24] <jeroen> hi all
[21:24] <wng-> adelcampo: go for 64bit
[21:25] <TheLady> Hey guys. I am trying to find a commandline torrent maker. I searched google and all said createtorrent but that site is down. Any ideas/suggestions pls?
[21:25] <charlie_tr> i tried to download several times and couldnt manage
[21:25] <Jork> ok, thnx
[21:25] <allaze-eroler> bye
[21:25] <h00k> Jork: so, if you're on it now, you're using nouveau
[21:25] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: i'm not sure what you mean... try running those commands and see what if you still have the same problem
[21:26] <snkmad> anyone knows fstab options? need help automounting my raid5 with user access
[21:26] <Oer> charlie_tr, what version of ubuntu are you installing ?
[21:26] <switch10_> adelcampo: I would say x86 because there is no advantage in having amd64 in a system with less than 3.5gb of ram
[21:26] <charlie_tr> 9.10
[21:26] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, no errors, ran smooth
[21:27] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: cool then your problem is sorted right?
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> if I manuall install a package with dpkg and a .deb file, with aptitude know that I did that?
[21:27] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: if i'm going to use nm-tool, i might as well use NetworkMananger instead, since it needs to be running for nm-tool to work
[21:27] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, just one sec, lemme check
[21:27] <Oer> charlie_tr, and do you know the type of your GPU ?
[21:27] <amosek> bondiblueos9: yes
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> amosek: so I'll be able to remove it later with apt-get remove?
[21:28] <amosek> bondiblueos9: yes apt is only a frontend for dpkg
[21:28] <Barkhorn> LzrdKing, didn't know you don't have it, i thought you just wanted to monitor the link. yes it needs the NetworkManager daemon. If you don't like that you could have a look at wicd
[21:28] <LzrdKing> but what a front end it is, downloading deps automatically
[21:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Are the alternate CDs any different in the way they are created. I know that the regular CDs appear to be a pre made file system thats copied to the HDD when installed. Does the alternate CDs have all of the packages that are used to build the system? Like can the alternate disk be used as a repo source to remove and then reinstall gnome for example for an offline machine by getting the packages off of the CD rather than the internet as
[21:29] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, there we go, thank you so much, did i just clean out the crap from dpkg and then update
[21:29] <LzrdKing> Barkhorn: its just more stuff to have running and bog down the box
[21:29] <wise_crypt> sebsebseb: i see, trying to update it just now
[21:30] <LzrdKing> is aptitude a frontend for apt?
[21:30] <Diverdude> Does there exist an alarmclock for ubuntu?
[21:30] <j0k3r> hi
[21:30] <coz_> LzrdKing,  sort of yes
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> Diverdude: There is an alarm clock applet in lucid.
[21:30] <amosek> LzrdKing: a ncurses-based-gui for apt? :D
[21:31] <coz_> LzrdKing,  I generally see "frontend"  as an actual gui  but  hey
[21:31] <LzrdKing> i hate aptitude, i don;t know what the sodes it uses mean, so i'm always left wondering if its going to install something or not
[21:31] <LzrdKing> codes*
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> I hate aptitude too
[21:31] <johnwedd> LzrdKing, use synaptic
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> I should probably take the time to figure it out
[21:31] <coz_> LzrdKing,  I personally never use apititude
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> I just use apt-get
[21:31] <tarzeau> i like aptitude
[21:31] <helo> aptitude is a lot better than apt-get
[21:31] <amosek> coz_: so shall i call apt an overlay for dpkg rather than frontend?
[21:32] <fosscon> can someone tell me what a box-like character in the terminal means?
[21:32] <tarzeau> bondiblueos9: apt-get fails often on ubuntu, that's why i like aptitude better here
[21:32] <fosscon> like
[21:32] <fosscon> 00
[21:32] <fosscon> 02
[21:32] <coz_> amosek,  mm :)  perhaps
[21:32] <FloodBot4> fosscon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: exactly, from the dpgk man page: dpkg --clear-avail
[21:32] <sKAApGIF>     Erase the existing information about what packages are available.
[21:32] <helo> in situations where apt-get will just give up, aptitude will tell you what your options really are
[21:32] <tarzeau> fosscon: the font doesn't have the glyph
[21:32] <fosscon> but
[21:32] <LzrdKing> i never had apt-get fail when i gave it a correct package name
[21:32] <switch10_> apt-get fails???  I have never seen this..  t
[21:32] <fosscon> does that mean that it is ascii character 2?
[21:32] <tarzeau> LzrdKing: i had
[21:32] <Kills> how do i block a site on my laptop?
[21:32] <helo> will automatically remove packages when you remove the only package that uses it, etc
[21:32] <tarzeau> switch10_: see what helo says
[21:32] <amosek> switch10_: unless u offline
[21:32] <bondiblueos9> well, let me specify: I don't feel comfortable using the aptitude text gui when it is called with no arguments
[21:32] <LinuxGuy2009> So nobody has a clue if the alternate CD has the actual raw packages for gnome and stuff on it?
[21:32] <j0k3r> ask google
[21:33] <coz_> LzrdKing,  same here... however I have had aptitude make a mess of things
[21:33] <tarzeau> Kills: put the hostname in /etc/hosts
[21:33] <Diverdude> Linkadmin2, i have only version 9.10. Is there an alarclock in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:33] <LzrdKing> helo: it will tell you next time you use that there are packages that nothing is using and you can remove them with apt-get autoremove
[21:33] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: your dpgk was probably trying to download a file from the internet which no longer exists. by deleting the old information on available packages and updating, dpgk should now try to download the correct file from the internet
[21:33] <coz_> LinuxGuy2009,  it should have all the same files on the cd    the install is different however
[21:33] <LzrdKing> sKAApGIF: dpkg can download?
[21:33] <coachj> Error getting file: -6: Not Supported anyone know why i am getting this copying mp3 off my sansa
[21:33] <johnwedd> sKAApGIF, ahhh i see, i'll remember that, thanks for the help
[21:33] <h00k> coachj: you might have to install 'lame' first
[21:33] <LinuxGuy2009> coz_: That doesnt explain it at all. hehe
[21:34] <amosek> LzrdKing: i dont thinks that it can
[21:34] <helo> looks like a lot of the functionality from aptitude has been added to apt-get
[21:34] <switch10_> in my opinion there is no real difference between the 2.  aptitude has the browser thing, thats about it.  I still like apt-get.
[21:34] <amosek> LzrdKing: *think
[21:34] <coachj> itLinuxGuy it will play them fine, does that rule out lame as  the problem
[21:34] <sKAApGIF> johnwedd: no problem ;), it doesn't happen very often though
[21:34] <h00k> switch10_: aptitude contains more logics than apt-get as far as resolving problems
[21:34] <Diverdude> Is there an alamrclock available for ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:35] <coz_> Diverdude,  mm I believe so hold on
[21:35] <Kills> in  which place do I need to put it exactly
[21:35] <coachj> hook: mp3s play fine, could it still be Lame?
[21:35] <LzrdKing> switch10_: my #1 difference is that apt-get says "i'm going to download and install these deps, is that ok?" aptidute tells me "here are deps" and i have no idea if its going to get them or not
[21:35] <sKAApGIF> Kills: blocking a website isn't all that straight forward... but it can be done, what website would you like to block
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> What i mean is on the CDs there is a pool folder for the actual deb packages. The regular CD only has just a few packages there. Does the alternate CD contain just the same few packages or does it contain all of the packages used by the installed system?
[21:35] <j0k3r> diverdude ; www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYrK9gxonG4
[21:35] <Kills> facebook
[21:36] <coz_> Diverdude,   i think this is it   but I have never tried it   http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/
[21:36] <LzrdKing> kills add this to your /etc/hosts: <IP_ADDRESS> www.facebook.com
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> Can an alternate CD be used as an apt source to install gnome from it?
[21:36] <Kills> I open the file and I put in it the top?
[21:36] <bondiblueos9> what bad things happen if you just pull the plug without a proper shutdown ?
[21:36] <LzrdKing> Kills: i'd put it at the bottom
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> hook: Having encoding issues or question I might be able to help with?
[21:37] <LzrdKing> bondiblueos9: practically? your computer spends a lot of time checking the disk for errors next time you turn it on
[21:37] <switch10_> bondiblueos9: the read/write head does not properly seat..
[21:37] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, i'd think your PC would turn off if you did that
[21:37] <Kills> http://pastebin.com/b60dxd0p
[21:37] <dotnetted> anyone know a good customizable iso burner thats in the repos?
[21:37] <bondiblueos9> Barkhorn: agreed
[21:37] <Kills> which place?
[21:37] <LzrdKing> theoretically you can lose data, but i've never experienced that personally
[21:37] <amosek> Kills: bottom
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> (04:37:23 PM) switch10_: bondiblueos9: the read/write head does not properly seat.. What???
[21:38] <coz_> Diverdude,  seems to work fine
[21:38] <Kills> ok how do i make redirect to a site I want
[21:38] <Diverdude> coz_, hmmm when i press the big green button here: http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/#download  I need to select a program to run the file...what program would that be?
[21:38] <switch10_> bondiblueos9: its not good practice.  I messed up a few Hdd's in my NAS doing that..
[21:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Hard drive heads go to the center of the disk when you pull the plug.
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> ok, better question would be, if I do this, and the am still sitting at a prompt, what should I do?
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> ubuntu@bigbox:~$ sudo shutdown -r now
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> Broadcast message from ubuntu@bigbox
[21:38] <bondiblueos9>         (/dev/pts/3) at 16:38 ...
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[21:38] <bondiblueos9> ubuntu@bigbox:~$
[21:38] <FloodBot4> bondiblueos9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <coz_> the top one in the list if you have getdeb installed
[21:38] <LzrdKing> Kills: below the last line thats already there.  between the number and the name you might want to put tabs so your entries line up with the existing ones
[21:38] <coz_> Diverdude,  or download the  0.3.0
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_: you must have had hard drives from the stone ages cause they have all done this for a very very long time.
[21:39] <sKAApGIF> Kills: you can change <IP_ADDRESS> to the ip address of the site you want to direct it to
[21:39] <coz_> Diverdude,  follow the instructions just below the green button for adding the PPA
[21:39] <coz_> Diverdude,  then y ou can click the big green button
[21:39] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, at least run sync before you switch it off
[21:39] <Kills> http://pastebin.com/SN6uaiLd like this?
[21:39] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: actually they are brand new...  what are you talking about???
[21:40] <bondiblueos9> Barkhorn: is that just sudo sync?
[21:40] <amosek> Kills: no
[21:40] <Kills> how do I get the ip adress of the website  I want
[21:40] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, right, it flushes disk caches
[21:40] <bondiblueos9> is there a way I can see what is preventing the shutdown?
[21:40] <coz_> Diverdude, click on the blue  "PPA avaialbe"  text to go to the PPA
[21:40] <jrib> Kills: host
[21:40] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: were**
[21:40] <Kills> http://pastebin.com/NYquqLqs liek this>?
[21:40] <coachj> it wont even let me move them to trash but will permently delete them, what in the  world ?
[21:41] <coz_> Diverdude,  then click   Technical details about this PPA  on the PPA page and it will show you the two lines to add to your  /etc/atp/sources.list
[21:41] <jrib> !who | Kills
[21:41] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_:  You told someone if you turn your PC off without shuting down then the HDD read/write head may not seat properly. This is far from true. This would ruin a drive having the head just sit on a part of the drive.
[21:41] <bondiblueos9> it wouldn't reboot, but I did make it halt instead with -h
[21:42] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: thats exactly what happens
[21:42] <Barkhorn> switch10_, with drives from 1990
[21:42] <cocolocko> hi@all, when i install the ubuntu 10.04 rc, will it be possible to update this version @ 29. of april to the final version?
[21:42] <bondiblueos9> ^^ also this
[21:42] <Diverdude> coz_, where do you see this "PPA avaialbe" ??
[21:42] <Kills> was that wrong or right amosek
[21:42] <sKAApGIF> Kills: yes, that looks right
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_:  No its not. Drives have electronics to keep enough power to send the head back home so to speak. You can even hear it on some drives. Loud ones anyways.
[21:43] <arand> !final | cocolocko
[21:43] <coz_> Diverdude,    http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/#download
[21:43] <coz_> Diverdude,  you should see the blue text on that link
[21:43] <Kills> so how do I get the ip adress of the website I want cant seem to find any option like host
[21:43] <LzrdKing> Kills: looks good to me, now try it out
[21:43] <coz_> Diverdude,  just below the  big green button
[21:43] <cocolocko> arand: thanks
[21:43] <j0k3r> ping hostname ?
[21:43] <jrib> Kills: host www.google.com   for example...
[21:44] <arand> cocolocko: Also, #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support.
[21:44] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: yes, and if they dont make it back your hdd is done, which is exactly what happened in my case.  you can call seagate if you want them to explain it to you..
[21:44] <sKAApGIF> Kills: just be aware that many websites use virtual hosts in which case just redirecting someone to that ip address won't work
[21:44] <LzrdKing> Kills: nslookup hostname
[21:44] <z3r0-c001> 7 days till lucid
[21:44] <switch10_> LinuxGuy2009: the guys question was what is the worst that could happen...
[21:44] <z3r0-c001> has anyone already got the betas
[21:44] <Diverdude> coz_, ahh yes