[20:43] <tibman> hmm, well thanks anyway
[20:43] <purvesh> can some one help me to Boot live cd via Pen Drive ?
[20:43] <alien_> penndrivelinux
[20:43] <erUSUL> davidmorable: :( maybe the nic is somehow disabled in the bios or something ?
 what are you trying to boot?
[20:43] <Ritztech> anyone familar with Expect -f Scripts
[20:44] <Ritztech> i think its called TCL with expect
[20:44] <alien_> they have a installer of any linux via usb
[20:44] <sam_00908> ok computer crashed again.   can anyone help?   im going crazy ~~~
[20:44] <alien_> anyone with ipod expirience
[20:45] <neckoox> alien_ no but what is your problem ?
[20:45] <alien_> my's is not showing in rythmbox
[20:45] <alien_> it was before
[20:45] <erUSUL> davidmorable: ok
[20:45] <erUSUL> !ipod
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[20:45] <neckoox> alien_ hm. i had a weird problem too with my ipod : only 7gig out of the 30 were recognized by ryhtmbox O_o
[20:45] <purvesh> tibman, actually i had setup. Startup Disk Creator via live cd to my Pendrive but at the time of Booting from Pendrive it is not Booting, so what is the Cause my pendrive company is verbatim 4GB pendrive and i had given 870mb alloted to setup.
[20:46] <karthee> hi .. after restarting my ubuntu, keyboard is not getting detected .. any help please ?
[20:46] <alien_> my's wor fine for wile
[20:46] <kad__> hey!! how to use the dpkg --force-architecture command to force application "Packet tracer" 32-bit to be installed on 64-bit  Ubuntu ? thx
[20:46] <alien_> but now is not
[20:46] <purvesh> karthee, it is USB or what ?
 I am not sure why it stopped working, but I can help you re-load it to your pen drive
[20:46] <karthee> purvesh: its my laptop .. dell
[20:47] <erUSUL> kad__: it is not aviable in 64 bits ?
[20:47] <dante123>  putting cdrom writer into an older system......do I use 40 pin IDE cable or 80 or does it make a difference?
[20:47] <purvesh> karthee, ohk...
[20:47] <karthee> purvesh:  any ideas ?
[20:47] <purvesh> tibman, ok... then tell me
[20:47] <kad__> erUSUL,  no but i check this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=881641 , they success to install it using the force-architecture command
[20:47] <purvesh> tibman, what should i do for that ..
[20:47] <dante123> reason I ask is because cdrom appears and then disappears under 10.04....also floppy showing up and there is none
[20:48] <purvesh> karthee, so you are typing via virtual keyboard or what ?
[20:48] <kad__> erUSUL, i try sudo dpkg --install   --force-architecture PacketTracer-5.3-u.i386.deb  hope it work
[20:48] <purvesh> karthee, u from india ?
 switch to the private chat
[20:48] <karthee> purvesh:  yep
[20:48] <alien_> does ubunty bring all codecs by default
[20:48] <karthee> purvesh:  i m on another machine .. I am able to ssh to it ..
[20:49] <alien_> i want to switch from mint to ubuntu 10
[20:49] <purvesh> karthee, so u also knw that we also have our Own channel :) #ubuntu-in
[20:49] <gaurav> how i install lamp in my system
[20:49] <erUSUL> kad__: why not use the procedure in post 6 ? seems safer ( poster 7 says as much )
[20:49] <karthee> purvesh:  sorry i dont know ..
[20:49] <kad__> erUSUL, it work out =)
[20:50] <erUSUL> gaurav: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
 first get a program called "unetbootin" here is a link: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:50] <kad__> erUSUL, post 6 failed coz Packet tracer only available under 32-bit
[20:50] <kad__> erUSUL,  anyway thx it work
[20:50] <erUSUL> kad__: ok
[20:51] <purvesh> gaurav, use synaptic and go to use Click on edit and select mark Package by Task :)
[20:51] <purvesh> karthee, it is our ubuntu indian channel
 load the program, then in you take the iso of the program you want to boot live and install it
[20:51] <bambalam> hi
[20:52] <bambalam> at all
[20:52] <purvesh> karthee, about your keyboard so try to go to at Bios at once at the time of restarting press Tab or Del button
[20:52] <karthee> purvesh:  ohh I see .. thats cool  .. but now I need to get back my keyboard working .. any ideas ?
 i got to go, good luck
[20:52] <davidmorable> Any one have any idea how to troubleshoot a missing network device?
[20:52] <purvesh> tibman, sry ... so what should i do ..
[20:52] <karthee> purvesh: keyboard is working there .. after ubuntu loads its not working ..
[20:52] <neckoox> Hey people , i just want to know if some of you have had a problem with evolution and HOTMAIL accounts . Mine doesn't want to authenticate . i've read MS have changed msn protocol in march ...
[20:53] <corey> cjknudson
[20:53] <purvesh> karthee, at the time of login screen then also it works ?
[20:54] <seanscot_> Hello
[20:54] <karthee> purvesh: No .. it doesnt ..
[20:54] <seanscot_> Help! :( :(  Run an upgrade to the latest ubuntu and suddenly the mouse and keyboard stopped working!
[20:55] <liam_> where do i need to go for crunchbanglinuxhelp
[20:55] <seanscot_> I just turned it off , but after trying to repair install the mouse and keyboard still only worth for about 5 seconds
[20:55] <erUSUL> !derivatives | liam_
[20:56] <seanscot_> Can anyone help? this is distressing!
[20:56] <purvesh> karthee, ohk... as per my knowledge now i dont have any idea... ya do one thing go to recovery and try some option at there like repair dpkg and other option may be it will help :)
[20:56] <purvesh> karthee, u r gujarati ?
[20:56] <stinger05> how do you take the close, maximize and minimize button to the right hand side instead of the left (which is the defualt side for 10.04)
[20:56] <erUSUL> !controls
[20:57] <neckoox> seanscot_ : how can you type here then ?
[20:57] <seanscot_> Cos im on another laptop
[20:57] <seanscot_> my brothers laptop
[20:57] <neckoox> seanscot_ : that's a problem ! mouse AND keyboard ? weird
[20:57] <seanscot_> Yeah
[20:57] <wizard_> can someone help me with a build from source
[20:58] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I have a 3G problem with my internet notebook computer which is Toshiba NB200. It seems Ubuntu didn't recognized the built-in modem in my computer. I read a solution but it wasn't easy. Is there a easier solution for solving this problem? Thank you for your help.
[20:58] <seanscot_> Its gonna leave me with no PC til god knows when :(
[20:58] <purvesh> karthee, u der ?
[20:58] <neckoox> seanscot_ : google run  !
[20:59] <iFrankZ> Good evening, can someone help me? My Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't allows me to use 3D Programs or Games...  I can't turn ON my 3D, I can't even activate the 3D Aceleration, I can give more info. in private cha
[21:00] <seanscot_> lol word 2
[21:00] <_2> seanscot_ again,,,  >>> if alt+SysRQ+R will reset the keyboard then ctrl+alt+f1 will take you to a console/tty where you can attempt something like "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg"
[21:00] <_2> seanscot_ the kernel hotkeys might still work.
[21:01] <Pici> !trash | Paca-Vaca
[21:01] <black> hi
[21:01] <black> could you tell me how to stop a process
[21:01] <seanscot_> sorry for my stupidity , but how can I do alt+SysRQ+R ?
[21:01] <black> im new to ubuntu
[21:01] <seanscot_> Is SysRQ one of the keys ?
[21:01] <xavierm> black, open a terminal, use "top"
[21:01] <_2> seanscot_ yes... with print-screen
[21:01] <erUSUL> !sysrq
[21:01] <switch> any webhosting gurus?
[21:01] <xavierm> black, you'll find all running process
[21:02] <iFrankZ> Can someone help me? I'm new on Ubuntu 10.04 and I can't use any program & game that needs 3D. I can't even use the 3D Aceleration, please open a private chat if you know something about this, thank you so much.
[21:02] <black> yeah
[21:02] <Pici> switch: Please ask your real question and you'll find you'll get an answer.
[21:02] <xavierm> black, check the id of the process you want to close
[21:02] <wizard_> can someone help me build install from source please ?
[21:02] <erUSUL> !pm | iFrankZ
[21:02] <ovy> hi
[21:02] <erUSUL> iFrankZ: what's your graphic card ?
[21:02] <black> yeah
[21:02] <black> then#
[21:02] <black> the
[21:02] <seanscot_> Just testing xp now
[21:02] <xavierm> black, press "k" and type the process ID
[21:02] <seanscot_> on the same machine
[21:02] <erUSUL> !compile | wizard_
[21:02] <neckoox> xaviern : killall <name of the process> works too does it ?
[21:02] <erUSUL> pkill is better
[21:03] <carl0s-> Does anybody know what the GTK / Metacity theme on the Docky wiki screenshots is? See here: http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=List_of_helpers
[21:03] <seanscot_> I was gonna install the latest ubuntu on my other brothers family machine but i think il hold off for now, scary
[21:03] <black> it tells tat comman not found
[21:03] <_2> seanscot_ ok.  anyway   remember the kernel hotkeys    alt+SysRQ+......
[21:03] <wizard_> can someone help me build install from source please ?
[21:03] <Pici> wizard_: Install what from source? Please ask your question in the channel and all on one line.
[21:03] <_2> wizard_ they use gentoo for that
[21:03] <xavierm> black, there's a gui also, under System -> Administration -> System Monitor you can stop process from there too
[21:03] <erUSUL> iFrankZ: please here; go to Sytem>Admin...>hardware drivers
[21:03] <seanscot_> il give that a go
[21:04] <seanscot_> in XP now , everything working fine
[21:04] <black> ya then
[21:04] <xavierm> black, select the process you want to kill then click on "End Process"
[21:04] <wizard_> Pici, I downloaded the program called LMMS this is the information it gives but it wont build from command like note I just opened terminal and typed this mkdir build
[21:04] <wizard_> cd build
[21:04] <wizard_> cmake ../
[21:04] <wizard_> make
[21:04] <wizard_> sudo make install
[21:04] <FloodBot2> wizard_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <black> thank you very much :)
[21:04] <germ86> kark
[21:05] <erUSUL> wizard_: lmms is on the repositories why compiling from source ?
[21:05] <Pici> wizard_: lmms is in the Ubuntu Repositories.
[21:05] <urthmover> basic linux question....how can I see which /dev device a mounted .iso is pointing at when running vmware?
[21:06] <erUSUL> urthmover: if it is an iso it will be in a /dev/loop? device
[21:06] <riktking_> move my /home partition and keep geting Could not update ICEauthority file /home/riktking/.ICEauthority errors, is there a fix?
[21:06] <urthmover> erUSUL: hmm ok I'll try to mount it to a directory  thanks
[21:07] <erUSUL> riktking_: probably you copied it "wrongly" and messed up the permissions ... make sure the file belongs to you
[21:08] <riktking_> erUSUL, it happens on boot, how do i set permissions ?
[21:08] <erUSUL> riktking_: boot into recovery mode (or do it from a livecd )
[21:08] <_2> riktking_ yes chown -R riktking /home/riktking
[21:08] <Pici> wizard_: sudo apt-get install lmms    will install it for you, not compilation needed.
[21:09] <_2> riktking_ errr yes,   sudo chown -R riktking /home/riktking
[21:09] <erUSUL> riktking_: in recovery mode do « chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser »
[21:10] <seanscot_> Seems a lot of people are getting this problem.  How long usually do ubuntu take to fix bugs?
[21:10] <seanscot_> I hope its sorted soon, cos I love using ubuntu
[21:10] <USERNAME> béke
[21:10] <Bluh> Is there a flash for Ubyntu, if so which one?
[21:10] <wizard_> Pici, cheers for that installing now :)
[21:10] <erUSUL> !flash | Bluh
[21:10] <_2> seanscot_ it's just my openion, but; ubuntu is a bug sense version 6.6
[21:11] <seanscot_> I see what you mean
[21:11] <seanscot_> 9 worked ok for me though
[21:11] <jamil_1> Hello, does empathy use the gnome proxy set in System->preference->networkProxy ?
[21:11] <cablop> well, i got this error, the ubuntu installer installed the boot loader on the wrong disk... how can i move it to the rfight device? i refer to grub2
[21:11] <_2> yeah i can get 10.4 to "work" on some machines
[21:12] <seanscot_> I sympathise with them trying to make it idiot proof though, because microsoft os's are just a pile of shit
[21:12] <Kaspi> čau
[21:12] <Kaspi> i mean, hi
[21:12] <cablop> 10.04 is sadly bloated at some spots
[21:12] <_2> cablop sudo grub-install /dev/right_device
[21:12] <godstar> cablop: I think that new UNR is only for ATOM cpu..
[21:12] <cablop> thanks _2
[21:12] <_2> cablop that can even be done from a chroot shell if needed
[21:13] <cablop> _2 i selected the other device from bios and then booted, now i';ll instal in the right place an see what happens
[21:13] <cablop> how can i remove the bootloader?
[21:14] <cablop> i just needed that other device for a vm, and of course i'm unwilling to load the os twice...
[21:14] <_2> grub2 is good.  it's a much needed improvement over grub 0.99
[21:14] <jamil_1> Or to rephrase what i said, How can I make empathy to use a proxy ?
[21:14] <_2> cablop ummm over write the "wrong" boot loader with the "right" boot loader is the best way to "remove" a BOOT loader
[21:15] <Kaspi> I'm looking for help with burning an MDF image to a DVD, which is split into 4 files (thething.mds, thething.mdf, thething.md0, thething.md1), Brasero doesn't seem to handle them all at once. How to?
[21:15] <cablop> _2 but i need to remove the mbr of the other device
[21:16] <erUSUL> !iso | Kaspi
[21:16] <erUSUL> Kaspi: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion
[21:17] <MamboKing> hello all
[21:17] <MamboKing> anyone know what mode provides the best throughput when nic teaming/bonding?
[21:17] <seanscot_> I posted how great the new Ubuntu was on facebook for my fellow tech work colleages to try it. Now I feel rather foolish. Thanks Ubuntu  lol
[21:18] <seanscot_> I guess il have no idea when this problem is resolved either.
[21:18] <MamboKing> seancot: what are you referring to?
[21:18] <erUSUL> seanscot_: well chances are thy hit no problem given that you hitted them all for them XD statistics are like that
[21:18] <seanscot_> lol erusrul
[21:19] <seanscot_> I hope so
[21:19] <seanscot_> Im still not gonna mention it to them though
[21:19] <seanscot_> They are all microsoft bastards lol!
[21:20] <seanscot_> mamboking , im reffering to my keyboard and mouse not working in the new version of ubuntu
[21:20] <MamboKing> ah
[21:20] <MamboKing> i thought there was some news or something in regards to its reliability or something
[21:20] <seanscot_> really?
[21:21] <MamboKing> i mean by reading your comments
[21:21] <seanscot_> Will ubuntu release a new stable version or will this just drag on ?
[21:21] <seanscot_> Ah i see
[21:22] <ikonia> seanscot_: stable version of what ?
[21:22] <seanscot_> Lucid Lynx
[21:22] <iFrankZ> erUSUL: Hola?
[21:22] <ikonia> seanscot_: it is stable
[21:22] <seanscot_> lol
[21:22] <erUSUL> iFrankZ: go to #ubuntu-es
[21:22] <erUSUL> iFrankZ: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:22] <seanscot_> How can it be stable if so many people arent able to use thier mouse or keyboard?
[21:22] <ikonia> seanscot_: how many ?
[21:23] <seanscot_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1477859&page=3
[21:23] <seanscot_> Tons of posts about it , but no definitive solution
[21:23] <ikonia> seanscot_: have you logged a bug ?
[21:23] <seanscot_> Tbh ive not , never done it before. How do I go about it?
[21:24] <ikonia> seanscot_: there are 30 posts, mostly containing 5 people, that's not really "all these people" is it
[21:24] <ikonia> !bug | seanscot_
[21:24] <seanscot_> Ikonia , try googling it
[21:24] <seanscot_> theres more than that thread
[21:24] <ikonia> seanscot_: and yet no-ones logged or mentioned a bug.....
[21:24] <seanscot_> No point in just being an apologist just for the sake of it lol
[21:24] <ikonia> seanscot_: no one is being an apologist
[21:25] <seanscot_> If it works in 9.10 and suddenly stops working here then it is a problem.
[21:25] <ikonia> seanscot_: but you're making wild statements that the OS is unstable, which is nonsense, there may be a bug which effects a specific user component, but unless you can find a bug logged for it, how are ubuntu meant to know there is a problem
[21:25] <seanscot_> the keyboard and mouse still work fine in xp
[21:26] <seanscot_> Well its just a bit crazy for me that plenty people are having the same problem that they didnt have in 9
[21:26] <seanscot_> thats a bug
[21:26] <cablop> what's the prefered seting about repositories?
[21:26] <ikonia> seanscot_: so instead of making these wild statements, check the bug database to find if a bug has been logged, maybe even a fix, or log a bug so ubuntu know there is a problem and can fix it
[21:26] <ikonia> seanscot_: plenty ??
[21:26] <ikonia> seanscot_: how many
[21:26] <ikonia> seanscot_: a bug is not "unstable"
[21:26] <cablop> to prefer packages from lucid-updates, or lucid-security?
[21:26] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <nkei0> my mouse doesn't work in the one before lynx
[21:26] <specter> I got a problem concerning the poulsbo drivers for lucid lynx. Everything is shaking on my Vaio P. Any advise?
[21:26] <peepingtom> cablop I think its called "pinning"
[21:26] <seanscot_> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+10.04+keyboard+and+mouse+not+working&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&gs_upl=11741%2C281%2C33%2C8%2C73%2C183%2C32%2C1
[21:27] <peepingtom> cablop http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[21:27] <ikonia> seanscot_: I didn't ask for a link, I asked for how many people are effected
[21:27] <seanscot_> I didnt count them , you do the counting if you think it makes any difference
[21:27] <ikonia> seanscot_: it does make a difference as it effects the priority of the bug
[21:27] <silverraindog> how do you find the ubuntu backgrounds, if you have set a default one ?
[21:27] <thune3> seanscot_: my question would be whether this is a function of upgrade, or does the problem also exist when you run 10.04 livecd.
[21:27] <ikonia> seanscot_: so instead of making false comments in here, I suggest you search the bug database for a known bug, or log a new one
[21:28] <seanscot_> hey thune, its both
[21:28] <ikonia> seanscot_: other tests would include stopping X and using GDM to test your mouse on the console, to see if the problem is with ubuntu and your mouse, or your mouse and Xorg
[21:28] <seanscot_> Upgrade and live cd
[21:28] <ikonia> seanscot_: as you can see the forum post it is suggested the problem is with the ATI closed source driver, with is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:29] <seanscot_> Thats way above my head mate.  The video card is fine though
[21:30] <mikeru> is there any kernel command line option to disable alsa?
[21:30] <thune3> seanscot_: that's the purpose of livecd. if it doesn't work in livecd, there will be some pain to get it to work, or it won't work.
[21:30] <ikonia> seanscot_: no it's not
[21:30] <ikonia> seanscot_: the video card controls the interaction with the desktop and the mouse
[21:30] <mikeru> e.g. vga=791 & noapic & acpi=off, one like alsa=off ?
[21:30] <ikonia> seanscot_: you've got a problem with your mouse on the desktop, odds are high the video card is "the" problem
[21:30] <Kaspi> erUSUL: I tried to convert the mdf to iso, but the mdf2iso tool was saying: "thething.mdf is already ISO9660"
[21:30] <discozohan> Hello. I am trying to install ubuntu from usb, but during the beginning of install it shows me "Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?"
[21:31] <mikeru> Kapsi: try renaming it to thething.iso, if the program says it is it must be
[21:31] <discozohan> what's wrong here ?
[21:31] <Songer> hello, how you doing?
[21:31] <lobito> hello, can someone help me plz with ccsm? I dont find the option to make the title bar of each window transparent
[21:31] <froschi> uh, is there a way to have that noisy harddisk park (even putting the data integrity at risk on rw-fs's?) and stay down for longer than 10 seconds?
[21:31] <ikonia> seanscot_: read post #17 in that forum thread, it's quite enlightening
[21:31] <countley> hello every
[21:31] <Songer> i just installed carmic but i canno get in, mi monitor goes black
[21:32] <mikeru> lobito: AFAIK there's no option in compiz to do so. you may use emerald, but nobody makes themes for it anymore
[21:32] <seanscot_> Well I know that about running the LIVE cd first now, But I guess because I was running a working version of ubuntu already and it asked me to upgrade that it would be ok
[21:32] <Kaspi> mikeru: my problem is that the mdf is split into 4 files and i can burn only 1 image at a time, which means renaming 1 mdf file wouldn't help me
[21:32] <Songer> eny help?
[21:32] <seanscot_> It should let you know that your keyboard or mouse might stop working if you do
[21:32] <mikeru> Kapsi: use 4 discs ?
[21:32] <ikonia> seanscot_: thats a reasonable assumption, however hardware support does change, and as Ubuntu has no control over the ATI device support, that could be an issue
[21:32] <ikonia> seanscot_: ATI is a known problem hardware on any linux platform.
[21:32] <peepingtom> I've seen this on windows and wonder if there is a linux equivalent: is it possible to temporarily buffer all hard-disk writes to RAM, for example while a laptop is being moved between rooms?
[21:33] <erUSUL> Kaspi: entonces haz « mv thething.mdf thething.iso » and burn it like that
[21:33] <Kaspi> mikeru: it is one image - one disc, split into 4 files
[21:33] <seanscot_> Well thanks for educating me on that ikonia   (not sarcasm)
[21:33] <seanscot_> what is ATI btw?
[21:33] <peepingtom> kaspi: search for 2iso in synaptic, lots of converters
[21:33] <ikonia> seanscot_: if you don't know that sort of thing, it can eat you
[21:33] <ikonia> seanscot_: you're video card vendor
[21:33] <peepingtom> ie. mdf2iso
[21:33] <seanscot_> mines is NVIDIA
[21:33] <Songer> help ti get in karmi?
[21:34] <ikonia> seanscot_: are you not the first poster in that thread ?
[21:34] <Kaspi> peepingtom: I already tried this one, and I was writing it here..
[21:34] <Songer> mi monitor stop signal and goes black
[21:34] <seanscot_> Ive not posted anything in the thread yet
[21:34] <ikonia> seanscot_: do you know (can you) use pastebin ?
[21:34] <Kaspi> erUSUL: that will burn only that renamed part of the whole image
[21:34] <seanscot_> would I not need my mouse for it?
[21:34] <ikonia> seanscot_: before the mouse hangs do you have time to open a web browser and paste some text
[21:35] <ikonia> seanscot_: can you access a console (does the keyboard still work)
[21:35] <seanscot_> Ive got a bluetooth chip and mouse which was installed in my previous ubuntu install
[21:35] <seanscot_> No it just freezes
[21:35] <ikonia> seanscot_: is your keyboard bluetooth too ?
[21:36] <peepingtom> seanscott: you can use a softmouse using the numpad.....anyone remember the sequence to activate it?
[21:36] <ikonia> peepingtom: his keyboard is dead too
[21:36] <seanscot_> ok its workin gnow
[21:36] <peepingtom> seanscot: time for a new keyboard, or a crappy temporary  used one so you can use http://nialldonegan.me/2007/08/24/turning-you-number-pad-into-a-mouse-in-linux/
[21:37] <Songer> help
[21:37] <seanscot_> shit, hanging again
[21:37] <ikonia> seanscot_: stop with the language please
[21:37] <ikonia> seanscot_: is your keyboard also bluetooth ?
[21:38] <mikeru> so I changed some alsa options in /etc/modprobe.d and now my computer freezes at a blinking underscore _. is there any kernel command line option like acpi=off to disable ALSA?
[21:38] <Kaspi> Any else ideas?
[21:39] <peepingtom> mikeru: you can blacklist your sound card's kernel module in /etc/blacklist
[21:39] <peepingtom> mikeru: although alsa may try to start and then freak out, I dont know
[21:39] <mikeru> peepingtom: problem is, it freezes. I can't log in.
[21:39] <Jake2|lucid> just plugged in a USB external floppy. rebooted. Floppy shows in Computer, but no response to double click. ?
[21:40] <peepingtom> mikeru: can you boot to a recovery session from GRUB?
[21:40] <mikeru> peepingtom: same thing.
[21:40] <BigMao> Hi there, after installing Lucid I'm noticing that every time I hit "Ctrl-C" in the terminal, it prints out "^C" .. how do I disable thsi?
[21:40] <mikeru> already tried that
[21:40] <peepingtom> mikeru: Boot using a liveCD then and mount your hard disk
[21:40] <peepingtom> ?
[21:40] <mikeru> peepingtom: that's exactly what I was trying to avoid :I
[21:40] <mikeru> :|
[21:41] <vandu> great greg
[21:41] <peepingtom> mikeru: you did this to yourself :D
[21:41] <mikeru> BigMao: normal behavior. Ctrl-C in a Terminal ends a running command. were you trying to copy? in that case, it's Shift-Ctrl-C
[21:41] <seanscot_> It works for about 10 seconds
[21:41] <R3cur51v3> Anyone have experience using Crestron Cresnet hardware with a Linux computer?
[21:41] <peepingtom> but i'd think a recovery session would not load alsa.....maybe it's something else?
[21:42] <BigMao> mikeru, that's not what I want.  I want to end the running command, but I don't like the "^C" character showing up on the terminal
[21:42] <davidmorable> My laptop is showing that I have No network devices available after a fresh install
[21:42] <davidmorable> I can't figure out how to get ubuntu to see my hardware
[21:43] <iFrankZ> does somebody know how to install 3D on Linux 10.04? I try to use programs in 3D and they don't work, I also type glxinfo | grep -i direct on term and nothing happends T_T
[21:43] <peepingtom> seanscot:iFrankZ, what video hardware do you have?
[21:43] <Mirambo> After some updates, perhaps a month or 3 ago the following device doesnt work: It gives a black screen after gdm login, or when the screensaver pops in:  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[21:43] <peepingtom> hurr
[21:43] <Kaspi> iFrankZ: how about just "glxinfo | grep direct" ?
[21:44] <mikeru> peepingtom: so sad, yet rather weird. my macbook 5,2 freezes if snd_hda_intel model=mb5 yet works albeit with bad quality when model=mbp3
[21:44] <iFrankZ> peepingtorn: how can I check it? Sorry for the noob question xD, and glxinfo | grep direct doesn't works x.x
[21:44] <Mirambo> What can i do to fix the driver / workaround until someone makes an updated intel driver available ?
[21:44]  * PigeonCluster just got ponged by b-man!
[21:44] <arooni> how do i do the visual bell from the command line
[21:45] <iFrankZ> I tried using hardware's controllers but it didn't find anything =(
[21:45] <PigeonCluster> arooni, if you have everything set to use visual bell, then "echo -e '\a'"
[21:45] <redsandro> Hi
[21:45] <peepingtom> iFrankz: lspci |grep VGA
[21:45] <redsandro> When I sshfs from the terminal in gnome and I exit the terminal, sshfs automatically unmounts. How do I prevent this?
[21:45] <iFrankZ> peepingtorn: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
[21:45] <peepingtom> mikeru: sorry, that's annoying! I'm assuming youve checked the mac section of ubuntuforums, I bet it's happened to someone else
[21:46] <arooni> PigeonCluster, did that, nothing happened
[21:46] <mikeru> peepingtom: ...not xd. I checked the wiki
[21:46] <PigeonCluster> arooni, no idea then
[21:46] <L33TG33KG34R> hey guys
[21:46] <PigeonCluster> test test
[21:47] <L33TG33KG34R> quick question: ubuntu 10.04 LTS on Asus T91MT working with full functionality right?
[21:47] <iFrankZ> peepingtom do you know what should I do for repair this problem? xD My father never used Linux and he doesn't knows how to use it, so he can't fix this problem.
[21:48] <peepingtom> iFrankZ: You have an R300 series ATI card, you should have 3d support with the open source drivers, 1 sec i'm reading something
[21:48] <iFrankZ> peepingtorn: Ok, thanks (:
[21:49] <cvexkeks> Did anyone have a problem with Gwibber? It wont start lately
[21:49] <Mirambo> Hmm, the current intel driver Ubuntu uses is unusable for the Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset. OR 8xx chips.  Ive read about the issue. Just downgrade to the previous intel driver and all things will be fine! :) Why dont they do that ?
[21:50] <mikeru> cvexkeks: did you change your font size to #.# ? it won't work with non integer font sizes (rather stupid)
[21:50] <mikeru> cvexkeks: it also seems to have bugs when the computer comes out of sleep.
[21:50] <mikeru> gwibber is truly one of the buggiest applications included in ubuntu
[21:50] <peepingtom> iFrankZ: Here's the deal, ATI has dropped support for r300 series cards with their proprietary driver, that's why you couldn't download one using the "hardware drivers" dialog in Ubuntu
[21:50] <cvexkeks> didn't change anything
[21:50] <dolt> hey ubunters
[21:50] <Mirambo> I have to contantly move the mouse in order to not have to reboot after the screen does black and wont display graphics again.
[21:51] <neckoox> the bugs that are explained here are sometimes sooooo weird
[21:51] <dolt> how do i exit the terminal from the '>' symbol?
[21:51] <Mirambo> I cant set another timeout on the screensaver either, because if i open its gui the screen also goes black :)
[21:51] <thune3> Mirambo: you might disable screensaver
[21:51] <iFrankZ> peepingtorn: that means that I can't fix my problem? xD
[21:51] <peepingtom> iFrankZ: please paste the results of lsmod into this form and give me the link
[21:51] <Mirambo> thune3: How, if not from the screensaver gui ?
[21:52] <peepingtom> iFrankZ: No I think there is decent 3d support in the open source drivers
[21:52] <erUSUL> dolt:  crtl + C
[21:52] <silverraindog> dolt: ctrl c ?
[21:52] <wakan> ubuntu-fr
[21:52] <erUSUL> dolt: or finish the command properly and hit enter
[21:52] <cvexkeks> Gwibber is still in startup, but there is no process in system monitor
[21:52] <dolt> thanks silver, i'll give that a try and confirm.
[21:52] <thune3> Mirambo: are you trying the "i915.modeset=1" workaround?
[21:52] <Mirambo> thune3: Yes, but ive not added that grub line, should i ?
[21:52] <Intertricity> I installed ubuntu server on an old laptop.. the pcmcia network card worked find during install when it was fetching the timezone- but at login, the card no longer worked
[21:53] <wakan> bonsoir
[21:53] <dolt> thanks you too erU
[21:53] <thune3> Mirambo: it's worth a try. have you tried it and it fixed your issues?
[21:53] <wakan> est ce que quelqu'un aurai le md5 de cette version d'ubuntu ?
[21:53] <wakan> Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 « Lucid Lynx » (32bits)
[21:53] <erUSUL> !fr
[21:53] <wakan> Je sais pas si il sait bien téléchargé
[21:53] <urthmover> how can I change the theme when I run gksudo gedit?
[21:53] <countley> does anyone know if linux work better on older laptops
[21:54] <dolt> ctrl + c works!
[21:54] <dolt> thanks.
[21:54] <urthmover> countley: to put it simply  yess linux runs better than other operating systems on older hardware
[21:54] <Mirambo> thune3: Ill add in that grub line and check. So far, with doing all the other things has not helped much. A bit better. This is an IBM NetVista.
[21:54] <mikeru> urthmover: gksudo gnome-appearance-properties
[21:54] <j800r> countley puppt linux qouls
[21:54] <j800r> *would
[21:54] <urthmover> mikeru: awesome thanks man
[21:55] <davidmorable> I have tried installing 4 versions of Ubuntu on my new laptop with no success
[21:55] <countley> ok
[21:55] <dolt> i love the IRC!!
[21:55] <dolt> lol
[21:55] <shiv_> davidmorable, What are the specs of your laptop?
[21:55] <lobito> someone can help me with ccsm?
[21:55] <davidmorable> I'm beginning to believe that you can't install it on the Dell Latitude E6510
[21:55] <davidmorable> specs are
[21:55] <redsandro> fuse unmounts on terminal close. Why?
[21:56] <urthmover> countley: if you are having trouble installing ubuntu from the live cd...you should consider installing ubuntu using the alternative installation cd
[21:56] <davidmorable> Intel i7 Core 4GB DDR-3 Intel Graphics Dell Wireless 1501 802.11/b/g/n
[21:56] <urthmover> countley: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[21:56] <countley> i use bt on an acer
[21:56] <dfcnvt> http://community.contractwebdevelopment.com/cron-job-mysql
[21:57] <j800r> guys, i wonder if you could help me out. Every once in a while my Ubuntu Lucid installation goes spastic. It's fine on my pentium 4 system, but on my main system, i sometimes lose sound (and it defaults to dummy output) and cannot mount drives etc as it says I lack permissions (which I don't). also when I try to restart it just logs me out and won't restart.
[21:57] <thune3> Mirambo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes workaround A. i'm not clear if you have tried it. If you haven't you can add "i915.modeset=1" to grub line on boot to try it.
[21:57] <Neurotiquette> New ubuntu linux user here! What program should I use to edit website code with? What should I be using as my web designing environment?
[21:57] <urthmover> countley: what is bt?  do you mean bittorrent?
[21:57] <countley> backtrack
[21:57] <urthmover> countley: or do you mean british telecom?
[21:58] <erUSUL> !html | Neurotiquette
[21:58] <urthmover> countley: ah   well then you probably know what you are doing....I don't understand your question then
[21:58] <Mirambo> thune3: I even installed those things, new initrd and all. Ill check this grub line as well so ive tried it all.
[21:58] <Mirambo> Brb
[21:58] <Neurotiquette> I used to use dreamweaver. lol. And notepad++. Whats a good fit?
[21:59] <countley> i want to buy a old sony vaio off my mate to put ubuntu on
[21:59] <erUSUL> Neurotiquette: for notepad++ scite may come close or any other text editor; default gedit even (with extra plugins)
[21:59] <erUSUL> Neurotiquette: dreamweaver equivalent is harder to find ...
[22:00] <kthomas_vh> ok,  I've turned on logging via my.cnf but am not getting anything in /var/log/mysql...
[22:00] <urthmover> countley: ok well if you don't want to put bt on it....and the livecd isn't installing or booting right  then you can install ubuntu using the alternate cd method
[22:00] <urthmover> countley: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[22:00] <coz_> Neurotiquette,   maybe komposer for dreamweaver alternative??
[22:00] <countley> ok cheers
[22:00] <redsandro> exit
[22:00] <coz_> rather  Kompozer
[22:00] <Neurotiquette> OK Im taking a shot at kompozer
[22:00] <Neurotiquette> thanks :)
[22:01] <Intertricity> Anyone familiar with yenta_socket problems with pcmcia?
[22:01] <coz_> Neurotiquette,    http://www.linuxalt.com/
[22:01] <Mirambo> thune3: I can go into the screensaver now :)
[22:01] <Mirambo> thune3: Screensaver gui that is
[22:02] <shiv_> Is there any fix yet to change cursors after compiz is enabled?
[22:02] <pagasus> im using xubuntu, I am trying to back up files on to a USB flash drive, but when I attempt to drag and drop the files on to the drive, i get an error saying I don't have permission, I do I set up the permissions for writing to the driver, I right click and I got properties but everything is grayed out
[22:02] <coz_> shiv_,   mm it should change automatically
[22:02] <Mirambo> thune3: Why dont they just use the old, working intel driver ?
[22:02] <Mirambo> old/older
[22:02] <coz_> shiv_,   if not a restart of x  or even a reboot   but I have found some cursor themes not responding well
[22:02] <shiv_> coz_, I am hit by this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/459647
[22:03] <thune3> Mirambo: i don't know. this 8xx problem is an embarrasment as far as i'm concerned.
[22:04] <Mirambo> thune3: Yeah, why use a less good driver if one wouldnt have to ? :) / Amazing!
[22:04] <countley> urthmover how long u been using ubuntu
[22:04] <thune3> Mirambo: to just make grub change stick: in /etc/default/grub you can change/add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i915.modeset=1" and then run update-grub.
[22:04] <coz_> shiv_,   yes ...unfortunately I have seen this happen with some people
[22:05] <coz_> shiv_,  apparenlty not everyone is effected and I am not sure what is the difference between them
[22:05] <Mirambo> thune3: Hmm, ok but id rather see an intel driver update that adds this line.
[22:05] <shiv_> I tried the fix in post #45 but then my window borders are gone
[22:05] <coz_> shiv_,  right now on  Edubuntu.... I does not change automatically but I have to restart x for it to change..however on plain ubuntu it worked well
[22:06] <gurudrew> Hello all, I've installed 10.4 via Wubi, and attempted the transfer via LVPM, which has gotten me nowhere. Are there any workaround guides on this subject?
[22:06] <ikonia> gurudrew: lvpm ?
[22:07] <gurudrew> ikonia, yes, if you don't know what it is you won't be able to help me. Linux Virtual Partition Manager
[22:07] <pagasus> Anyone know how I can get permission to write to my usb flash drive
[22:07] <iFrankZ> join #ubuntu-es
[22:07] <erUSUL> iFrankZ: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:07] <shiv_> I tried the fix in post #45 but then my window borders are gone
[22:08] <bsmith093> davfs2 is hanging the boot help please
[22:08] <bsmith093> i cant type the auth and password to the server during the boot and it wint boot without them appearently
[22:08] <Turbolinux> What's the easiest for enabling intagrated 3G modem in an internet notebook computer? Thank you.
[22:08] <peepingtom> gurudrew: It's actually LOOPMOUNTED ;)   what exactly went wrong?
[22:09] <bsmith093> how do i get to the grub menu in the boot process
[22:09] <Turbolinux> Thank you for your help.
[22:09] <bsmith093> i have grub 2
[22:09] <Mirambo> thune3: This how easy this could be: Add +1 on the micro or patchlevel versions of the intel driver. Have it add this line to /etc/default/grub and run update-grub. I cant see how this could be bad, can you ?
[22:09] <peepingtom> Turbolinux: do you see anything in networkmanager?
[22:09] <erUSUL> bsmith093: press shift key
[22:09] <bsmith093> thanks
[22:10] <carpex> I guess Dell really doesn't want to sell computers with Ubuntu: http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
[22:11] <bsmith093> press shift when? i rebooted nothings happening
[22:11] <Mirambo> thune3: A very non-bug really. Why are they using the most crappy versions of most anything they can find ?
[22:11] <shiv_> cannot change the number of desktops either. I tried form CCSM as well . No luck
[22:11] <Turbolinux> Peepingtom: No because I create my connection then I set it for connecting. When I try to start the connection it doesn't start.
[22:11] <Oer> gurudrew, lvpm is the motor behind Wubi > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[22:11] <j800r> so no one has any advice for this? :\
[22:11] <gurudrew> peepingtom, My mistake. I used LVPM to 'transfer' to an ext3 partition.
[22:11] <gurudrew> Everything appeared to have worked well
[22:11] <gurudrew> but when I reboot my grub is all trashed
[22:11] <Turbolinux> It seems Ubuntu didn't recognize built-in modem.
[22:12] <Mirambo> j800r: For what ?
[22:12] <gurudrew> I have to go back to my old bootloader and reboot into the virtual disk
[22:12] <specter> I got a problem concerning the poulsbo drivers for lucid lynx. Everything is shaking on my Vaio P. Any advise?
[22:12] <daedaluz> Can't install gparted, requires dummy package libparted0 but can't install it since the package libparted0debian1 is of higher version
[22:12] <daedaluz> where to report problems like that?
[22:12] <thune3> Mirambo: there was a decision made for 10.04 release, given the state of drivers at the time and the release window. I believe it was an unfortunate happening.
[22:12] <ikonia> daedaluz: don't mix versions
[22:13] <Mirambo> thune3: They are using other packages with bugs written against them, but the bugs have already been solved years ago even perhaps.
[22:13] <daedaluz> ikonia, I have only official repos enabled + wine and wine has no dependencies on libparted
[22:13] <ikonia> daedaluz: so what's looking for the higher version of libparted ?
[22:13] <j800r> Mirambo my Ubuntu lucid installation would screw up on my main system. sound would stop working and revert to dummy output, mounting wouldn't work and it'd say i lacked permissions, and if i tried to restart it would just lock me out. all of these seem linked
[22:13] <peepingtom> Turbolinux: if you can create a  Mobile Broadband connection in nm, doesnt that mean that NM detected your card?
[22:14] <ikonia> j800r: what's the error when you try to mount ?
[22:14] <daedaluz> ikonia, looking for lower version. check description of libparted0 in synaptic
[22:14] <peepingtom> TurboLinux: if there was no support, there would be no module loaded and NM would not detect the card
[22:14] <discozohan> Can anyone gimme an advice how to install ubuntu from usb drive without any problems ?
[22:14] <Mirambo> j800r: Whats this "Main system" ?
[22:14] <ikonia> daedaluz: you're looking for a lower version?
[22:14] <ikonia> daedaluz: or gparted is ?
[22:14] <arooni> whats the fastest way to download 1 page on a site, such that the image links / css links etc... will all be linked to the full path to the server?  i.e. not relative paths, but full paths.
[22:14] <^peanut^> arooni: wget?
[22:14] <ikonia> arooni: you can't change the html code you download
[22:14] <j800r> Mirambo Intel Core 2 Quad, 4GB ddr3 RAM, Nvidia GTX 260, 10,000rpm WD Raptor drive
[22:14] <ikonia> arooni: it will download the html the server generates
[22:15] <daedaluz> ikonia, gparted ofcourse
[22:15] <sebsebseb> !usb | discozohan
[22:15] <j800r> oh, and Striker II Extreme motherboard
[22:15] <ikonia> j800r: you said a few minutes ago it was a pentium 4
[22:15] <arooni> ikonia, so i have to manually rewrite the html for full paths to assets?
[22:15] <Mirambo> j800r: VmWare related issue ? Or do you call your fastest computer your "Main system" ?
[22:15] <ikonia> arooni: or script it
[22:15] <daedaluz> ikonia, gparted is looking for dummy package that's looking for lower version, to be precise
[22:15] <j800r> ikonia no. i said it works fine on my pentium 4. not my main system
[22:15] <ikonia> daedaluz: are you sure your repo's just not out of sync as I've got hparted here fine
[22:15] <^peanut^> arooni: no, the webserver and code on it generate the html output to a webpage
[22:15] <ikonia> j800r: what's the error when you try to mount ?
[22:15] <Turbolinux> Peepingtom: But I saw detecting messages in System Log Viewer software.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> gurudrew: Can you elaborate on "my grub is all trashed"?
[22:15] <j800r> Mirambo the latter
[22:15] <daedaluz> ikonia, open synaptic and try for yourself
[22:15] <daedaluz> ikonia, no, I did full refresh
[22:15] <Mirambo> j800r: Ahs
[22:15] <davidmorable> How do you make the network card visible?
[22:16] <Mirambo> j800r: Aha
[22:16] <davidmorable> I've tried what seems to be everything
[22:16] <j800r> ikonia it says i lack permissions, but i know it's linked to the over problems cause they all happen together
[22:16] <blakkheim> does anyone know if CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_NI_INTEL is enabled in the default x86_64 kernel in 10.04?
[22:16] <ikonia> j800r: what's the exact error
[22:16] <peepingtom> Turbolinux: have you looked at this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G/Probing      you need this info in order to debug
[22:16] <ikonia> daedaluz: can't test not got an ubuntu box to hand here
[22:16] <Mirambo> j800r: Be root when mounting Aux filesystems. Thats no bug.
[22:16] <ikonia> daedaluz: I installed gparted 2 days ago though, no issues, so I'm wondering what's been updated and when
[22:16] <j800r> i'm afraid i cannot reproduce it as i'm on Win 7 at the mo
[22:16] <daedaluz> ikonia, so where to report this problem
[22:17] <peepingtom> good luck, feel free to paste whatever to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and share the results with us
[22:17] <j800r> Mirambo they usually automount
[22:17] <ikonia> daedaluz: if possible I'd get a few people in here to validate it first, as it really does sound like your repo is out of sync with the others
[22:17] <Mirambo> j800r: Using Selinux ?
[22:17] <^peanut^> ikonia I'll check it out. gparted install?
[22:17] <ikonia> ^peanut^: good man, sure
[22:17] <^peanut^> ikonia: np
[22:18] <j800r> Mirambo no
[22:18] <ikonia> daedaluz: lets see what ^peanut^ comes up with
[22:18] <peepingtom> TurboLinux: once you've gathered info as indicated at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G/Probing you'll have some productive googling, check ubuntuforums.org
[22:18] <j800r> not to my knowledge at least :\
[22:18] <ryan_languagelab> why does syndaemon (for the Synaptic touchpad tools) not disable the touchpad when I use keys like Control and Alt in emacs?
[22:18] <Mirambo> j800r: That can always screw things up, plus its a crappy system. A useless bandaid to the very secure OpenSource OS.
[22:18] <ikonia> Mirambo: please don't talk nosense, it's an effective tools when used properly
[22:18] <^peanut^> ikonia:, deadaluz: upon package selection, libparted0 will be installed. just no version info yet
[22:19] <ikonia> ^peanut^: keep going......
[22:19] <blakkheim> what's a way to see what options were set in the default kernel? i used to check /proc/config.gz in gentoo
[22:19] <erUSUL> blakkheim: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[22:19] <peepingtom> Mirambo: foolishness! apparmor is easier, though. too bad ubuntu doesnt have any good repositories or GUIs like suse did in its prime
[22:19] <Mirambo> ikonia: Its been disruptive for no reason for many people. Sometimes, automagically servers wont start due to it etc so Most people Just Turn It Off :)
[22:20] <^peanut^> ikonia:, deadaluz:  libparted0 (from .../libparted0_2.2-5ubuntu5.1_i386.deb) is the one it installs
[22:20] <bsmith093> 'im trying to replace my fstab file with a backup i made but im booting off a live cd how do i get the drive as raed write
[22:20] <Mirambo> peepingtom :) ... That too could be interfearing with things he has issues with.
[22:20] <blakkheim> erUSUL: thanks
[22:20] <j800r> why would you need extra security for Linux anyway. It's about the safest OS around atm :\
[22:20] <daedaluz> ikonia, ^peanut^ exactly what I was trying to convey to you people
[22:20] <Mirambo> j800r: Amen!
[22:20] <ikonia> ^peanut^: lets see if it installs
[22:20] <tbiddle> hey, new to ubuntu. struggling with getting flash working in firefox (think it's because my system's 64 bit). can anyone help or tell me where to find some good old nooby help?
[22:20] <Redcl0ud> what would be the best firewall to use when you have wireless internet?
[22:20] <^peanut^> ikonia: it did. =)
[22:21] <gurudrew> Jordan_U, It's trashed, it's not working properly, Ubuntu is misnamed as netboot or something and it says 'Other OS' for my pre-existing install, which won't boot because NTLDR is missing
[22:21] <Turbolinux> Peepingtom: I will do this. Thank you for your help.
[22:21] <j800r> only "security" i use on Linux is a damn p2p blocklist lol
[22:21] <SuNk8> bsmith093, do u want to edit a read-only drive?
[22:21] <Mirambo> j800r: The Flask / NSA system now called Selinux. Geesh :P
[22:21] <erUSUL> tbiddle: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" should work
[22:21] <ikonia> daedaluz: ok - so it worked fine for him, so either there are conflicts from an external or development repo (backports or unstable) or your repo is out of sync
[22:21] <bsmith093> SuNk8: yes
[22:21] <peepingtom> TurboLinux: no problem, good luck you'll get the info you need
[22:21] <ikonia> ^peanut^: great test, thanks
[22:21] <^peanut^> ikonia:, deadaluz: once installed I ran it and it seems to be running fine.
[22:21] <bsmith093> i need to tweak the fstab file back the way it was
[22:21] <erUSUL> Redcl0ud: your wireless router already has a firewall
[22:22] <Jordan_U> gurudrew: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280  and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[22:22] <erUSUL> Redcl0ud: you shouldn't need one
[22:22] <^peanut^> ikonia:, deadaluz: would do a shrink just to make sure all is well, but that will lag my laptop =)
[22:22] <cablop> how is the ACL support in lucid?
[22:22] <erUSUL> !firewall > Redcl0ud
[22:22] <^peanut^> ikonia: anytime bro
[22:22] <SuNk8> well, what I usually do is open a terminal and type in 'sudo nautilus' Then I can do what I want... hehe...
[22:22] <daedaluz> ikonia, so switch repo to something else, say, swedish, and try my luck again -_-
[22:22] <SuNk8> bsmith093, well, what I usually do is open a terminal and type in 'sudo nautilus' Then I can do what I want... hehe...
[22:22] <bsmith093> k thanks
[22:22] <cablop> i think to deal with just three lvl permissions is outdated
[22:22] <erUSUL> cablop: as good as in any other linux ... what do you want to do ?
[22:22] <ikonia> daedaluz: worth it, got to be careful that you don't have "poprosed" or "unstable" repos enabled too
[22:22] <daedaluz> well, giving it a try
[22:23] <daedaluz> ikonia, been using lunix for good 8 years, I know my way around pretty well~
[22:23] <cablop> i want to set more complex permissions settings, i want to be able to set some folders, images by example, readable for some mebers, invisible for other members and editable by a few members
[22:23] <^peanut^> daedaluz: so are you saying that the swedish repo's are broken?
[22:23] <Mirambo> thune3: Thanks very much. This computer works again! :)
[22:23] <L33TG33KG34R> so I'll take it as a yes?
[22:23] <erUSUL> !info eiciel | cablop
[22:23] <j800r> well, i'm guessing no one can be too sure about my issues, so i guess i'll reinstall Lucid and report again if/when the error occurs so i can attempt to provide further information..
[22:23] <daedaluz> ^peanut^, no, the finnish ones. giving sweden a go now
[22:23] <cablop> i don't want to make that settings around my user or around root user or making other users members of root group... this is why ACL would be the best option
[22:23] <erUSUL> cablop: it integrates with nautilus
[22:24] <^peanut^> daedaluz: oh oh ok...sorry I kinda butted into that chat...=).
[22:24] <ikonia> ^peanut^: great test, nice job
[22:24] <cablop> ok, it integrates, but do linux manage those permissions always? what if an user accesss via ssh or using xfce... do still acl apply?
[22:24] <^peanut^> ikonia: ty
[22:24] <erUSUL> cablop: you have to install nautilus-actions too
[22:25] <erUSUL> cablop: it should obbey them if pressent
[22:25] <cablop> erUSUL: and... what if they use not nautilus but konqueror or ssh?
[22:25] <bsmith093> SuNk8: thanks worked fine
[22:25] <cablop> is too hard to make samba and acl work together?
[22:25] <Mirambo> thune3: A simple grep check for that line in the default grub setup would work perfectly. So easy and yet nothing is beeing done :(
[22:25] <erUSUL> cablop: the nautilus integration is for *editing* the acl's
[22:26] <cablop> erUSUL: but all system obey acl if present, isn't it?
[22:26] <Gunbuck> can anyone help??? im using ubuntu 10.4 on samsung r530 laptop and i cannot for the life of me sort the brightness settings out the brightness doesnt work in the power managment nor does the shortcut keys :(
[22:26] <cablop> erUSUL: thanks a lot, well, i'll setup this thing that way
[22:26] <owd95> someone her that can tell me how i can remove the chatt and email thing from indicator applet?
[22:26] <erUSUL> cablop: correct; that's my understanding. i do not use them
[22:27] <adriancarrio> how do i compile a C program in ubuntu?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> owd95:  for tjhe email thing --> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/how-to-remove-social-network-features.html
[22:27] <daedaluz> adriancarrio, gcc
[22:27] <coz_> adriancarrio,   gcc  nameofcfile
[22:27] <adriancarrio> all right thanks
[22:27] <^peanut^> owd95: mouse over, right click, unlock, repeat 2nd time and choose remove
[22:27] <adriancarrio> :)
[22:28] <coz_> adriancarrio,  see if that works
[22:28] <SuNk8> bsmith093, Glad I could be of help... ;-)
[22:28] <Gunbuck> can anyone help??? im using ubuntu 10.4 on samsung r530 laptop and i cannot for the life of me sort the brightness settings out the brightness doesnt work in the power managment nor does the shortcut keys :(
[22:29] <blitzo> hi - running ubuntu on LiveCd, the touchpad of my laptop stopped working - what do i do?
[22:30] <Gunbuck> any1????
[22:31] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: what type of laptop
[22:31] <blitzo> hi - running ubuntu on LiveCD the touchpad of my laptop stopped working, what do I do?
[22:31] <Gunbuck> samsung r530
[22:31] <Gunbuck> using a Intel GMA X4500M DVMT graphics
[22:31] <Gunbuck> read lots of forums no joy
[22:31] <^peanut^> Gunbuck... so the laptop keys don't work...hmm, the display settings maybe?
[22:32] <Gunbuck> i have tried the brightness in the settings the bar moves but the brightness does not
[22:32] <Gunbuck> im not bothered about the keys just want the brightness to work
[22:32] <^peanut^> Gunbuck, it's possible the drivers don't have all the features yet?
[22:32] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: is your display really dim?
[22:32] <Misterio> Have USB classes depending of their speed or godknowswhat stuffs?
[22:33] <Gunbuck> yes
[22:33] <Misterio> s/have/has
[22:33] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: hmm
[22:33] <daedaluz> ^peanut^, ikonia. I switched to main repository. still doesn't install. however, I solved the problem by using aptitude to downgrade libparted0debian1 [2.2-5ubuntu5.1 (now) -> 2.2-5ubuntu5 (lucid)]
[22:33] <Gunbuck> even with power cable in
[22:33] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: oh wow
[22:33] <nimbiotics_> hello evry1. Can someone please tell me how to share folders between linux ubuntu and windows xp?
[22:33] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: hmm how about the power control settings
[22:33] <daedaluz> just wondering how it could have such a strange version
[22:33] <Gunbuck> tried it :(
[22:34] <Gunbuck> i installed fedory 13 and linux mint same prob
[22:34] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: hmm...ah ok... then it very well could be the graphics driver
[22:34] <daedaluz> nimbiotics_, mount windows partitions to some place in filesystem
[22:34] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: I have an nvidia card in my laptop so I won't be much help...sorry man
[22:34] <daedaluz> look in /windows
[22:35] <Gunbuck> im a bit of a linux noob how will i go about getting my driver if thats possible?
[22:35] <^peanut^> !Intel
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics_:  youi mean network shares ?
[22:35] <tbiddle> does anyone know if installing flash on a 64bit system should pose difficulties?
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> tbiddle: flash works on my 64bit system
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> I use the flash from the package manager.
[22:35] <^peanut^> Gunbuck: try what ubottu mentioned?
[22:35] <tbiddle> Dr_Willis: which flash package do you use?
[22:35] <Gunbuck> cheers
[22:36] <^peanut^> Good luck
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> tbiddle:  I think theres only one for 'flash' in the repos.
[22:36] <nimbiotics_> Dr_Willis> Yes, sry
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> flash-installer or whatever its called
[22:36] <davidmorable> ugh Ubuntu 10.04 install goes black and caps lock and numbers lock labels just keep flashing
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> !samba | nimbiotics_
[22:36] <mfilipe> hi! where do I download the Ubuntu font?
[22:37] <SuNk8> tbiddle, Adobe doesnt provide 64 bit flash for Linux. However, you can install the same using medibuntu repos or Ubuntu Tweak... Works fine on mine...
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> mfilipe:  its not officially released.  there are some oldeer and uglier versions floting about.
[22:37] <SuNk8> mfilipe, which ubuntu font?
[22:37] <nimbiotics_> Dr_Willis, ubottu> Thanks!
[22:37] <tbiddle> Dr_Willis: still getting prompts in youtube etc to install the plugin
[22:37] <mfilipe> SuNk8: ubuntu-10.10
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> tbiddle:  you did restart the browser after installing the flash plugin?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: It seems that only Ubuntu Community Members have access to it at the moment
[22:37] <mfilipe> sorry
[22:37] <mfilipe> 10.04*
[22:37] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: and Canonical employees I guess
[22:37] <oohazard> Hi everybody!
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> info on Ubuntu font --> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/would-it-be-fair-to-publish-original.html
[22:38] <mfilipe> sebsebseb: will it be closed?
[22:38] <tbiddle> SuNk8: pretty new to ubuntu so medibuntu repos and ubuntu tweak are a foreign language to me! (i'll start googling)
[22:38] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: closed as in propritary font?
[22:38] <tbiddle> Dr_Willis: yup, even rebooted pc
[22:38] <mfilipe> sebsebseb: yeah
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> tbiddle:  ubuntu-tweak is a tool to enable other repos and other 'tasks' that peopl;e often want to do
[22:38] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: No it will be a free to use font, however its been made using Mac OS X like  the 10.04 branding, not Ubuntu.
[22:39] <tbiddle> Dr_Willis: like a ubuntu jailbreak?
[22:39] <getmizanur> elloo
[22:40] <getmizanur> is there any chat room for php or java programmers
[22:40] <getmizanur> ?
[22:40] <^peanut^> try #php or #java
[22:40] <sebsebseb> getmizanur: a special program for those, no I don't think so, however their are IRC channels on here for them
[22:40] <rafee> which country are u frm
[22:40] <getmizanur> uk
[22:40] <sebsebseb> ^peanut^: getmizanur ##php ##java
[22:40] <SuNk8> tbiddle, search for medibuntu. It's the unofficial repositories containing extra codecs. You will find their walkthrough useful. Similarly Ubuntu Tweak is a beautiful rogram integrated with a variety of tools that makes an Ubuntu user's life easier... ;-)
[22:41] <^peanut^> sebsebseb: ty forgot about the double hash
[22:41] <ryan_languagelab> why does syndaemon (for the Synaptic touchpad tools) not disable the touchpad when I use keys like Control and Alt in emacs?
[22:42] <mfilipe> sebsebseb: it is a very good font... the other free fonts are ugly :(
[22:42] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: uhmm their are loads of free fonts out there on the web
[22:42] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: also you can use the Windows fonts in Linux distros
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> last years 'good fonts' are now this years Ugly fonts...
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !fonts | mfilipe
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> I use the Ubuntu font for my Rummage Sale Signs. :)
[22:42] <e-funktion> hi
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !info msttcorefonts
[22:43] <^peanut^> Dr_Willis: nice =)
[22:43] <e-funktion> on the ubuntu hp, there is 64 bit not recommended.
[22:43] <e-funktion> Whats wrong abt 64 bit>
[22:43] <e-funktion> ?
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> e-funktion:  use what you want.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> mfilipe: theres a package in the repo with Microsoft fonts, or their free fonts anyway, plus you can use fonts from Windows
[22:43] <coz_> sebsebseb,  ubuntu-restricted-extras I believe has that package
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[22:43] <e-funktion> Dr_Willis: there must be a reason why they dont recommend 64bit.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> coz_: yeah probably
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> e-funktion:  see http://ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Marcel-Gagne-Orbiting-Planet-buntu/Stop-Apologizing-For-Linux
[22:44] <sebsebseb> e-funktion: 64bit is ok now days
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> e-funktion:  because they are assuming the users are total idiots basically :)
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: oh whats that?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: the link, well I can go on it :D
[22:44] <sebsebseb> e-funktion: oh HP sells pre installed Ubuntu now, like Dell ?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> e-funktion: for the homeuser/consumer ?
[22:44] <owd95> Which ati drivers are best for hd5770? I use ubuntu 10.04. The propitary from ati, 10.6 or the drivers "hardware drivers" recommend?
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> boils down to '32bit will work no matter what your cpu is.. they dont want a user getting a 64bit cd and think ubuntus broken on their 32bit  cpu. i guess.'
[22:45] <^peanut^> owd95: use the recommend ones from the hardware drivers.
[22:46] <tbiddle> i've got a 64bit cpu but (foolishly) thought that by opting for the 32bit os i might save myself some headaches
[22:46] <owd95> thx, but are they not old?
[22:46] <tbiddle> i'm a windows user primarily but just getting to grips with this for work
[22:47] <^peanut^> tbiddle: 64bit is just fine for desktops
[22:47] <oohazard> I cannot make flash to work on my 64bit system, is there anybody having the same problem ?
[22:47] <^peanut^> tbiddle: been upgrading my 64bit ubutnu desktop from 8.10 to 9, to 10.04 now
[22:47] <tbiddle> oohazard: yup me
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> tbiddle, ^peanut^ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/585940 the "bug" about the website wording re: 64bit
[22:49] <owd95> ^peanut^: thx, but are not the drivers old from "hardware drives"?
[22:49] <karlo> what is deference between 32-bit and 64-bit ?
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> karlo:  32 more bits..
[22:50] <MSHughes> ^^
[22:50] <sebsebseb> tbiddle:  there is 64bit Flash for Linux by the way. altough someone told you there wasn't,  I saw in back log
[22:50] <tbiddle> lol
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> karlo:  if you got 4+GB ram you want 64bit to make best use of the ram
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> karlo:  and you can gain speed boosts in other areas also
[22:50] <MSHughes> karlo, depends on your CPU too ofc
[22:50] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: 32bit and 64bit Ubuntu are nearly the same thing really, I mean when it comes to what works and what doesn't work
[22:50] <^peanut^> owd95: they may be, but are the best suggested to work properly. atleast that's how I read it. And, I've only used the ones in ( ) and have not had any issues.
[22:50] <tbiddle> sebsebseb: i saw it was a bit beta but then struggled to get my hands on it
[22:50] <aguitel> how to add users and groups in system --administration menu ?
[22:50] <oohazard> any solutions?
[22:50] <^peanut^> ZykoticK9: nice.. ty
[22:51] <karlo> what is better choice ?
[22:51] <tbiddle> i think as i've got 32bit ubuntu installed it would be best if i stick to 32bit flash
[22:51] <MSHughes> karlo, probs 64, but depends if your PC can support it
[22:51] <owd95> ^peanut^: alright, thx!
[22:51] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: 32bit Linux distros are a bit more supported than 64bit still I guess,  plus not all distros do a 64bit version even
[22:51] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: How much RAM you got?
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> tbiddle:  on 64bit ubuntu - you are still usiong the 32bit flash. last i checked..
[22:51] <karlo> 1 GB xD but I'm gonna buy new one
[22:52] <tbiddle> sebsebseb: according to firefox i have both adobe and swfdec flash installed...
[22:52] <oohazard> tbiddle: did you get any solutions?
[22:52] <tbiddle> sebsebseb: 4gb memory
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> tbiddle, to check what version you are using "uname -m", but if you are using 32bit Ubuntu you can ONLY use 32bit flash.  (64bit flash is temporarily discontinued right now anyways)
[22:52] <tbiddle> oohazard: working on it
[22:52] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: Desktop Linux distros, above.  oh 4GB well you will need 64bit for the OS to see all 4GB of your RAM, if your doing 32bit it will only show 3GB
[22:53] <tbiddle> ZykotickK9: yup, that's what i thought
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> !tab > tbiddle
[22:53] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: so if you want to be able to use all 4GB of RAM 64bit, if  not  and 3GB is good enough for your 32bit will do it
[22:53] <jamil_1> Hello, I am sick of the way ubuntu/Gnome handles proxy. When I set http proxy in System->Preference->network proxy any thing in terminal related to internet stops to work e.g wget. However if I set the proxy to none and maunually specify the http_proxy variabel in terminal, it works fine in terminal.
[22:54] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: in 64bit Ubuntu the Flash that comes from ubuntu-restricted-extras should work
[22:54] <owd95> i have no sound in pidgin when i recived a messege, the are sound when i sent a messege and when someone login but not when i received?
[22:55] <tbiddle> think i'm gonna go and install 64bit ubuntu and start fresh
[22:55] <tbiddle> thanks for the help y'all!
[22:55] <^peanut^> tbiddle: I just took a look at the plugins I'm using on my ubuntu 64bit 10.04 system and I have gnash, swfdec, and adobe flash <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:55] <sebsebseb> tbiddle: good idea to check ISO before burning contents to CD and using by the way
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | tbiddle
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[22:56] <trism> owd95: check that "Message received" is checked in Tools/Preferences/Sounds/Sound Events
[22:56] <revarr> Hi everyone.  couple of questions
[22:56] <greezmunkey> If I want to reset a forgotten administrator password (on this PC) what do I have to do, reinstall?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> !ask | revarr
[22:56] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: nope
[22:56] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: administrator you mean,  the default Ubuntu account?
[22:56] <^peanut^> jamil_1: I don't believe the gui system proxy settings and the cli have much to do with each other, I just setup aliases in my .bash_profile for enabling a proxy and disabling it.
[22:56] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: the one that can do sudo?
[22:56] <owd95> trism: it's check...
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[22:57] <revarr> if a live CD of a distro does not let you get on the internet after connecting to your network then wouldn't it be a bad distro?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: if you mean that, boot up recovery mode from the Grub bootloader
[22:57] <jwatt> when I try to install 10.10 alpha 2 from DVD, after selecting English and choosing Install, I just get a black window with a blinking cursor in the top left
[22:57] <cablop> it seems that i need to setup acl per mount point
[22:57] <jwatt> is that a known issue?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: go to root prompt.  passwd  yourusername, and put in a new password
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> revarr:  i would think it would be a 'unsupported' network card.. more then anything else..
[22:57] <greezmunkey> sebsebseb: no, I installed on this box a couple of months ago, created an administrator account using a password I don't normally use, and forgot it. I did create the account I'm working with now, but that's all I know. I should have written it down!
[22:58] <revarr> I see
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> jwatt, reask same question in #ubuntu+1
[22:58] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: administrator do you mean root account?
[22:58] <revarr> well good thing I tested before installing
[22:58] <greezmunkey> sebsebseb: yes
[22:58] <jwatt> ZykoticK9: ok, thanks
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  You can use the live cd/chroot and set a new root password.
[22:58] <trism> owd95: does the preview button correctly play the sound?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: uhmm your not meant to use the actsaul root account in Ubuntu
[22:58] <sebsebseb> !root | greezmunkey
[22:58] <figure002> hello. some of the computers i work with and that have ubuntu 10.04 running, are experiencing high cpu usage whenever Flash is used on a website. i'm not having this problem on the laptop i'm on right now. anyone have an idea what's causing the high cpu usage?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  if your user has sudo rights. that should be able to do it also..     But its best to stick with just sudo and the admin user. :)
[22:59] <owd95> trism: yes it does
[22:59] <greezmunkey> sebsebseb: I get that. It's the "admin" account created when installing in the first place. The account that allows sudo prive, etc.
[22:59] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, gui proxy sets the http_proxy variable itself. You can check it from terminal. Problem in my case is that if I set the variable manually it works but if i let gnome to set it for me it doesn;t work and I get 403 forbidden
[22:59] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: yes other distros,  tend to have a root account, that people also don't tend to log in to,  instead they become root when they want to install a program,  a bit like sudo really,  but yeah your doing Ubuntu, not another distro
[22:59] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: uh I mean above, people aren't ever meant to log into the actsaul root account
[22:59] <^peanut^> jamil_1: hmm, interesting. let me check that. brb
[23:00] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: That's it, I didn't give myself sudoer rights before I forgot that doggone password! I'll pop in an install CD.
[23:00] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: be that another distro,  or  Ubuntu where you have set up root, which your not meant to do, since sudo
[23:00] <trism> owd95: odd, so some sounds work, but others don't?
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, any account in the admin group should be able to use sudo
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> greezmunkey:  You deleted teh initial user? that one has sudo rights by default.
[23:00] <greezmunkey> sebsebseb: I get that, it's all good
[23:00] <noisewaterphd> anyone kniw how to mkae the trackpad work right on a macbook pro?
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> I learned how to make a upstart job that makes a root shell on tty9 :) for 'emergancies' :) but Im the only one that uses this pc.
[23:01] <^peanut^> jamil_1: ok I setup the proxy via the gui, and then opened a terminal and did "env | grep http_proxy", and I get nothing
[23:01] <sebsebseb> greezmunkey: and if you use the actsaul root account,  services that shoudn't run like that, could cause issues with your system.
[23:01] <owd95> trism: yes, all sounds work but not the received sound :/
[23:01] <^peanut^> jamil_1: and I did click "apply-systemwide"
[23:01] <oohazard> tbiddle: any links from where I can try to solve the issue as well?
[23:02] <nobita> hello
[23:02] <blitzo> asking for dolphin24...  hi - running ubuntu on LiveCD the touchpad of my laptop stopped working, what do I do?
[23:02] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: yeah, bummer. I kind of just created the account I am using without doing any of that. At the time I was just interested with accessing the box - and I hadn't yet forgotten the primary accounts password. I'm an idiot.
[23:02] <karlo> Anyone know link for download "gigabyte" graphical driver (for Linux of course xD) ?
[23:02] <nobita> how to change Login Screen ubuntu 10.04 ????????
[23:02] <trism> owd95: do you have the "Sounds when conversation has focus" box checked?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> nobita: :)
[23:02] <Andyman555> Does anybody know how to permanently configure what dpi xserver uses?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> nobita: why since you don't like the purple look?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> nobita: well if on 10.04
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> nobita:  you can only tweak it a little by default. Change wallpaper and so forth.
[23:03] <sebsebseb> nobita: anyway alternatives, KDM :)  XDM, LXDM, and Slim
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> nobita:  theres a tool called 'epidermis' out that lets you set up some different themes. but its a little flakey
[23:03] <blitzo> hi - running ubuntu on LiveCD the touchpad of my laptop stopped working, what do I do?
[23:03] <Andyman555> is there a way to edit a configuration file for xserver that changes what window manager is used?
[23:03] <owd95> trism: now i have it checked and it works ;) thx!
[23:03] <nobita> please help me change longin screen ubuntu 10.04
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> Andyman555: xinitrc
[23:04] <sebsebseb> nobita: KDM is what I would use in Ubuntu,  the KDE display manager,  that will want to put on quite a bit of KDE stuff, if you haven't had a KDE app installed before, but  not a problem, as long as your partition isn't sily sized,  and most Linux distros have been designed for many apps to be installed without problems, unlike WIndows.
[23:04] <Andyman555> thank you aeon!
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> Andyman555:  thats not a xserver config.. the user has a .dmrc that defines the default session. Or theres other ways to change it
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> nobita, i've tried various ways of trying to configure GDM since 10.04 and non have worked successfully.  other then changing the most basic things like the background image.  best of luck!
[23:04] <sebsebseb> nobita: and you can't just downgrade to the old GDM even though its in repo
[23:04] <nobita> yes
[23:04] <figure002> nobita: you can also use 'python-gdm2setup' for that
[23:05] <nobita> but am go to http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  that epidermis tool lets you use mints' or some other themes..  from  some other ubuntu variants mainly - i recall.
[23:05] <blitzo> hi - running ubuntu on LiveCD the touchpad of my laptop stopped working, what do I do? (asking for dolphin24)
[23:05] <^peanut^> nobita:  I've used this, but not sure if this is what your looking for or not. http://n00bsonubuntu.com/content/how-change-login-screen-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  but all they do is change the wallpaper, and  other decrations. :)
[23:05] <nobita> and download and extract but dont know how change
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> nobita:  the OLD gdm themes wont work
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, yes that mint thing is true - i remember that!  but it VERY limited.
[23:05] <Andyman555> blitzo, I've had the same issue sometimes, and I'm not sure what to do to fix it
[23:05] <nobita> oh
[23:05] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, hmm but I am getting the variable http_proxy
[23:05] <Andyman555> I've tried restarting hal, and the mouse still doesn't work, and it's only a once in a while problem - x starts, mouse doesn't work
[23:05] <nobita> thank Dr Willis
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> nobita:  change the wallpaper.. get back to work. :)
[23:06] <nobita> :)
[23:06] <blitzo> andyman555 how do you restart hal
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Set gdm to auto login to the user.. and you dont even worry about gdm themes any more
[23:06] <Andyman555> /etc/init.d/hal restart
[23:06] <^peanut^> jamil_1: ok try this. unset the proxy in the gui, apply systemwide...then run the grep for http_proxy in the terminal...it should be gone.
[23:06] <nobita> but i want change login screen :-s
[23:06] <sebsebseb> nobita: KDM :)
[23:06] <sebsebseb> nobita: see above
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> nobita:  change what of it?
[23:06] <^peanut^> Dr_Willis: yeah =) you tell him
[23:07] <sebsebseb> nobita: KDM looks much nicer than GDM 2 in Ubuntu, see above
[23:07] <nobita> u see here
[23:07] <nobita> have more login screen
[23:07] <nobita> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter
[23:07] <sebsebseb> nobita: or maybe try Slim, some nice themes on the site for it, and woudn't take much for you to make your own
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> some gdm2 tweaking --> (USe at your own risk) --->  sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> nobita:  as we said . the OLD gdm themes wont work. gdm2 is not as custiomizable as gdm1
[23:07] <nobita> ok thank men ;)
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> if you really have a theme-fetish - you can use the old GDM.. good luck with that
[23:08] <nobita> no
[23:08] <nobita> thx u so muck
[23:08] <Andyman555> blitzo, did restarting hardware abstraction layer help your touchpad problem?
[23:08] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, nope still getting the http variable
[23:09] <^peanut^> jamil_1: ok when you set it at the terminal without the gui... have you unset it?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: yeah and Ubuntu made GDM 2 look sucky in 9.10, but also 10.04 :(
[23:09] <revarr> wow
[23:09] <figure002> hello. some of the computers i work with and that have ubuntu 10.04 running, are experiencing high cpu usage whenever i visit a site with Flash (e.g. youtube). i'm not having this problem on the laptop i'm on right now (also ubuntu 10.04). anyone have an idea what's causing the high cpu usage?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: its something how a good background for GDM 2, can make it look quite a lot better
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> figure002: lack of a real gpu?
[23:10] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, hmm if I unset it from teminal then obviously i won't get any when I will grep for it ?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> I just set my wallpaper to be a nice err.. female.. and leave it alone. :)
[23:11] <aeon-ltd> mehhhhhhhhh
[23:11] <figure002> aeon-ltd: 'real gpu'? what's that?
[23:11] <revarr> it is proven that Ubuntu 10.4 has a issue with the Graphics (the screen stays at 100% brightness) with my Acer Aspire 5740.  Any suggestions (other distros ect)
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> ages ago i had GDM1 set to run xfishtank as the background :)
[23:11] <karlo> I download google earth for linux... and I can install it, but it doesn't work...
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> karlo:  ive seen that in some repositories.. it has worked forme in the past.
[23:12] <sebsebseb> revarr: I like your brackets :)   and yeah a lot of Ubuntu's problems,  would be sovled by another distro :D  however I am not so sure about that, when it comes to laptop brightness issues
[23:12] <^peanut^> jamil_1: yes that's the point. unset. I'm just tryin to figure out why when I use the gui to set the proxy I don't see that change in my terminal, but u do. so if you unset it then set proxy again with gui, just double checking that your termial will not have it, or it wil
[23:12] <cablop> well, now i have eiciel and nautilus, but nautilus won't load it... what do i need to do to integrate both?
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> karlo, fyi for future reference - if you add the medibuntu repository it has googleearth packages
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> karlo:  i also think ubuntu-tweak  makes installing google-earth easier.
[23:12] <^peanut^> !mediabuntu > ^peanut^
[23:13] <^peanut^> !mediaubuntu > ^peanut^
[23:13] <revarr> well openSUSE is out
[23:13] <adriancarrio> how do i manage to run a program automatically at ubuntu startup?
[23:13] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, can you tell me what are the config files that terminal uses for finding http_proxy variable apart from /etc/bash.bashrc ~/.bashrc ?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis:  karlo I have a good link for installing Google Earth into Ubuntu (which is one of many Linux distros)
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> !startup | adriancarrio
[23:13] <karlo> I can install it, but than I can't run it
[23:13] <keyhive_> Help!    I installed some icon theme packs and now a bunch of random applications show a grey box with a '?' instead of the /usr/share/icons/hicolor app icon.
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: uhmm I am not so sure about recommending Ubuntu Tweak to a load of people, because people can do silly things with it
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> karlo:  and the error it gives is?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: as far as I know
[23:13] <sam^> this is madness
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  ive seen them do silly things without it also. :)
[23:13] <^peanut^> jamil_1: that would be the places I would know of.
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> !medibuntu | ^peanut^
[23:14] <^peanut^> ZykoticK9: ty bro =)
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> I am often amazed at the ways people manage to break their ubuntu systems.
[23:14] <blitzo> hi - running off the LiveCD on my laptop, the touchpad stopped working and restarting gdm doesn't help - what should I do?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> blitzo:  so it was working then it stopped? thast is weird.
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> karlo, open a terminal and run "googleearth" and see if there are any errors
[23:15] <blitzo> dr_willis yes that is what happened
[23:15] <Ninjagamer> that is weird
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> blitzo:  you restarted gdm with 'sudo service gdm restart' ?
[23:15] <blitzo> dr_willis "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[23:15] <AvidChronos> hi, i cant remote desktop my linux server fine from a linux client, but I cant from a windows 7 client. How can i get it to work on windows?
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> blitzo:  learn the service  command.. that init.d stuff is  the old sysv way. and   is slowly being phased out
[23:16] <blitzo> dr_willis thx for advice
[23:16] <^peanut^> jamil_1: I just found this, looks like it's something u just have to do I guess. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-configure-ubuntu-desktop-to-use-your-proxy-server.html
[23:16] <sebsebseb> karlo: Dr_Willis http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/installing-google-earth-52-in-ubuntu.html
[23:16] <sebsebseb> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/installing-google-earth-52-in-ubuntu.html
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> blitzo:  you could just reboot. and monitor the /var/log/messages and see if any   erorrs show up if it 'stops' again.
[23:16] <FloodBot2> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <belak> sg Nickserv identify koolkal51
[23:17] <sebsebseb> two lines, is hardly flooding, silly FloodBot2 :D
[23:17] <belak> ...
[23:17]  * Dr_Willis hands belak  a new password
[23:17] <AaronMT> Dictionary word fail
[23:17] <blitzo> dr_willis we are run ning on LiveCd reboot requires lots of set up, want to avoid if possible
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> blitzo:   other then restarting X. i cant tell you mush else to do.. other then say to grab a mouse..
[23:17] <hiexpo> haha
[23:18] <sebsebseb> (maybe detects that the url was given out twice)
[23:18] <belak> Dr_Willis, good call
[23:18] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, now a strange thing is happening. No matter what I do in gui regarding proxy I am getting an http_proxy variable in terminal even though I have cheked the /etc/bash.bashrc and .bashrc file
[23:18] <tripps> ncftpget isn't getting the folders in recursive directories on a server I'm trying to download from (it works on others). Any suggestions? Other tool?
[23:18] <revarr> wish someone had information on which distros worked well with my computer
[23:18] <revarr> is there an irc room for that?
[23:18] <webPragmatist> is it possible to force an sshd "sftponly" user to a specific gid?
[23:18] <^peanut^> jamil_1: did you ever set the http_proxy from the termial?
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb the link you gave karlo is not really the "ubuntu" way of installing things.  Having software updated through medibuntu does offer more security then simply downloading applications directly from source... sometimes.  Food for thought :)
[23:18] <hiexpo> revarr,  whats the prob?
[23:19] <revarr> it is proven that Ubuntu 10.4 has a issue with the Graphics (the screen stays at 100% brightness) with my Acer Aspire 5740.  Any suggestions?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: well I have used what that link said, and it worked great for me in 10.04.  and  yeah there is a works for me factoid :D, but what was the trigger?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: meidubuntu also isn't offical
[23:19] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, I had the export statement in /etc/bash.bashrc which I have commented out for now
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> revarr:  You want help in trying to fix the issue? or what exactly?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: in fact getting the .bin directly from Google is probably a more offical way than using medibuntu really
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, installing software into the home directory is not "linuxy"
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: yeah I guess thats true since repos
[23:20] <^peanut^> jamil_1: right. so every time you open a new termial that will get set. open a new termial and check the gui proxy settings once set in that new clean termial
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> revarr:  go to distrowatch.com if you want to try a different disrto.  Or try the  10.10 and report the issue as a bug if it is still happening
[23:20] <hiexpo> revarr,  use 9.10 it is a better distro i think
[23:20] <revarr> fixing the issue would be good
[23:20] <cablop> what is relatime on mount?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: with the exception of .tar.gz I suppouse, after they have been extracted and such
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, /opt
[23:20] <figure002> revarr: what's your gpu?
[23:20] <hopsa> sebsebseb: Do i need to tell someone at Debian to get the Intel 8xx driver issue fixed in Ubuntu or what ?
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> revarr:  you have checked the forums for your exact make of laptop?
[23:21] <revarr> I have checked
[23:21] <revarr> saw a possible fix
[23:21]  * Dr_Willis always sets his screen at 100% brightness...
[23:21] <revarr> but it wasn't working for me
[23:21] <sebsebseb> hopsa: uhmm?
[23:21] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, new terminal also has the http_proxy set though through gui there is no proxy at all
[23:21] <^peanut^> hopsa: check to see if there is already a bug listed on debian and ubuntu sites, if there is no bug, create one?
[23:21] <revarr> there is a bug reported
[23:21] <hopsa> sebsebseb: Its giving a bad rep due to this driver issue for 8xx intel cards... google the bug, its official but can easily be fixed by.....
[23:22] <^peanut^> jamil_1: odd man, I can't reproduce that.
[23:22] <revarr> one person stated it as solved but the patch method didn't work for me
[23:22] <specter> I got a problem concerning the poulsbo drivers for lucid lynx - my windows are shaking/stucking when i move them on my Sony Vaio P. Any advise?
[23:22] <igor-explorer_12> Hi. General question ... In Ubuntu (default distro with Gnome) system buttons are located on the left site like in Mac OS X. It was introduced by Gnome or by Canonical?
[23:22] <^peanut^> jamil_1: so it's set, but wget can't use it...
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> igor-explorer_12:  its a theme setting by canonical
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> is Plymouth used on the LiveCD?
[23:22] <hiexpo> revarr,  use 9.10 until they get the bugs cleaned out > things are changing with ubuntu
[23:22] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, nope
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  im pretty sure it is.
[23:22] <revarr> okay I'll see if that live cd works with my comp
[23:22] <cutiyar> i recovered some pictures but they dont open , and they has size also
[23:22] <specter> everything just runs in low grafic mode
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, "pretty sure" eh?  ;)
[23:23] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, also http_proxy doesn't contain my username and password
[23:23] <igor-explorer_12> ok is it possible to set this theme to Gnome in another distro? (Sorry for possibly stupid question)
[23:23] <^peanut^> jamil_1: but in the gui network proxy it does?
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  the live cd's have issues with my  nvidia cards.. and its a plymouth issue on a normal install..
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  so yep. pertty sure
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, exactly!
[23:23] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, yes I have specified them
[23:24] <hopsa> sebsebseb: "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub" add "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i915.modeset=1" to this file, or create a new one with this content.
[23:24] <hiexpo> revarr,  use name first tab to dirrect a message to a  person first please so we know whom you are talking to
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:   the consoles are not useable on live cd.. and not useable on normal install untill i install the nvidia drivers and/or blacklist the noeavu or whatever driver
[23:24] <revarr> ohh sorry
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> I just remove Plymouth :)
[23:24] <hopsa> sebsebseb: After this the driver install with an updated patch level runs POST: "update-grub"
[23:24] <tripps> n/m - used wget -r ftp:// *much* more reliable
[23:25] <hopsa> sebsebseb: This should fix the problem for all those with IBM with intel cards etc etc etc.
[23:25] <sebsebseb> hopsa: or it might just be to do with how Ubuntu deals with that hardware
[23:25] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, usually I didn't notice about the http_proxy variable in terminal because I was setting it manually in bash.bashrc
[23:25] <^peanut^> jamil_1: yeah.
[23:26] <hiexpo> revarr,  like if you wanted to direct a message to me type say hie hit tab and it will fill it in and than type your message
[23:26] <specter> has anyone tried the gma500 drivers yet?
[23:26] <^peanut^> jamil_1: here's something interesting. http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?26,75109,75848 have you read this?
[23:27] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, a min
[23:27] <Songer> hello
[23:28]  * hiexpo hmm some people can not be taught
[23:28] <^peanut^> jamil_1: I did find out that /etc/environment is another file that supports stuff like http_proxy and so on
[23:28] <hopsa> sebsebseb: Yeah, some blacklist the HW for OpenGL Some dont. Either get a better driver from intel/Xorg or Downgrade it (There was no drawback with the old driver that i can see)
[23:28] <Songer> i cannot access in to lucid mi monitor stop  signal and monirtor goes balck
[23:28] <sebsebseb> hopsa: well attempting to download a driver, will probably cause issues with xorg
[23:28] <sebsebseb> downgrade not download above
[23:29] <Kragnerac> :)
[23:29] <hopsa> PRIV!
[23:29] <karlo> how to install .bin files ?
[23:29] <hopsa> Good, thx
[23:29] <sebsebseb> karlo: ah right yeah
[23:29] <^peanut^> jamil_1: ah, check this out. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wget/+bug/554068 and also a work around. http://blog.zenlinux.com/?p=366
[23:29] <sebsebseb> karlo: you mean for Earth since the link I gave?
[23:29] <karlo> no... I download google earth from offical page
[23:29] <hiexpo> haha
[23:30] <jamil_1> ^peanut^, OK here is the scenario: I unset proxy in gui open clean terminal and wget is working(I have http_proxy in bash.bashrc) then I set the http_proxy in gui and open another terminal and wget doesn't work even when both terminals have same http_proxy variable set to same value
[23:30] <hiexpo> open with
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> karlo, to make something executable "chmod +x filename.bin" then run it like "./filename.bin"
[23:30] <ronald_> Greetings, do you know if there another way around login when you can authentatication failure when you forget you password
[23:30] <hiexpo> JAVA
[23:30] <karlo> ok
[23:30] <^peanut^> jamil_1: read  this. http://blog.zenlinux.com/?p=366 it explains the issue and a work around
[23:30] <sebsebseb> karlo: yeah do what that page says, or use medibuntu as ZykoticK9 suggested
[23:31] <Songer> how can i fix drivers to  access in lucid?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> karlo: and before you can use a .bin  you have to right click on it, and do the execute option
[23:31] <sebsebseb> karlo: I mean in the properties
[23:31] <karlo> yea... I do that thx
[23:31] <hiexpo> unbelievable
[23:31] <Songer> in grub i don't see somting like quiet splash
[23:31] <revarr> hiexpo: one more thing, should I go for the x86 iso?  the 64 bit is for amd and my architecture is ??? (not really sure the architecture details are vague)
[23:32] <hiexpo> revarr,  no use 32
[23:32] <blitzo> anybody know how to set up a dual boot environment with win7?  i have done it with xp and it was a nightmare
[23:32] <Jordan_U> blitzo: If you install windows first it's automagic.
[23:32] <^peanut^> blitzo: install win7 first, then install ubuntu
[23:33] <hiexpo> blitzo,  train wreck
[23:33] <scotty00> ronald i can help u
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> blitzo, LOL using windows to boot linux is a little crazy.  not sure why anyone would want too.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> blitzo: If not, then you'll need to recover grub after installing windows: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:33] <blitzo> jordan_u should i partition the disk first?
[23:34] <Buttons840> does anyone have numpy installed from the repos?  in my experience it wont actually import to python 2.6?
[23:34] <revarr> blitzo: I tried it, it isn't that bad just remember, windows first, ubuntu second
[23:34] <tensorpudding> anyone know if Unix dump/restore works on ext4?
[23:34] <blitzo> jordan_u revarr we are using the windows recovery disks to do this
[23:35] <revarr> blitzo: yeah. . . that may make it bad.  At least you got a disk.  Acer consumed a partion
[23:35] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: check out - http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2010-03/msg02304.html
[23:35] <Jordan_U> tensorpudding: I recommend against dump/restore in principle, what are you doing that can't be accomplished with standard tar / rsync / other tools?
[23:35] <blitzo> jordan_u revarr win7 recovery wants to use the entire disk
[23:35] <hiexpo> blitzo, guaranteed train wreck  u can put your money on it i will bet you will crash within 6 months  > so no do not do it  use linux or use windows your choice
[23:36] <revarr> I tried to work around it and completely ruined windows
[23:36] <gurudrew> Jordan_U, I apologize for the delay, http://pastebin.ca/1903996
[23:36] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Then let it, Ubuntu can resize windows during the install.
[23:36] <blitzo> hiexpo pls do not assume why we are doing this, just advise how to do it
[23:36] <tensorpudding> I use dump/restore on BSD, and it works amazingly well.
[23:36] <blitzo> jordan_u pls explain i don't recall any such option to have ubuntu resize the partitions
[23:37] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: I have no idea what problems you have encountered but most have no problems with dual booting.
[23:37] <revarr> so with a core i3 processsor should I stick with x86 or the amd64 one
[23:37] <^peanut^> hiexpo: please, don't discourge people from trying things. Just because you may have had a bad experience dual booting win and linux, doesn't mean it will be a problem for others.
[23:37] <PixelEater> how do i make XChat stop connecting to freenode?
[23:37] <Daekdroom> revarr, 32bits has better support. AMD64 only if you need performance on specific applications.
[23:37] <tensorpudding> And though I am aware of the dangers of trying such tricks on a live filesystem which doesn't support snapshotting like UFS2 does, I can't find a suitable alternative for full-disk, remote backups with support for incremental backups
[23:37] <trojan_spike> hiexpo,  are u quad booting?
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> revarr, it's up to you (so long as your i3 is 64bit).  32bit is easier with less "issues"
[23:38] <econdudeawesome> hiexpo--quadbooting--awesome.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> blitzo: I believe the option is called "install side by side", it's fairly obvious once you're actually in the installer.
[23:38] <^peanut^> tnesorpudding: check out rsnapshot... =)
[23:38] <puff> I reinstalled my machine and I have a backup of my old stuff.  How do I import the empathy settings?
[23:38] <^peanut^> http://rsnapshot.org/
[23:38] <hiexpo> ok i will keep my opions to myself   > i have only been operating unix for 12 years   > sorry
[23:38] <JJ_> hi there folks im trying to migrate my irc wscrabble bot from win7 to x-chat inubuntu its a consol application but when i run it i get a file descriptor error what do i do and yes i am root
[23:38] <^peanut^> hiexpo: 15yrs here. =)
[23:38] <blitzo> jordan_u we have 4 partitions already and don't want to disturb them - tell me it won't?
[23:39] <JJ_> hi there folks im trying to migrate my irc wscrabble bot from win7 to x-chat inubuntu its a consol application but when i run it i get a fcouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the consolewhat do i do and yes i am root
[23:39] <dibs> Can anyone help me with partial upgrade problems
[23:39] <^peanut^> hiexpo: everyone has different hardware and does things a bit different if they "know what they are doing". remember, alot of folks that come here are new to ubuntu
[23:39] <trojan_spike> Jordan_U, its only obvious when its empty space
[23:40] <dibs> I don't know how to find the packages that are causing it, the thread on the forums says I need to know this to resolve this constant partial upgrade
[23:40] <tensorpudding> I looked at rsnapshot, and although it sounds like it could potentially be able to be coerced to do what I want I'm not sure
[23:40] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: so, what are you trying to achive?
[23:40] <Dmstrdj> Ive had good luck dual booting, just wish I could make the windows partition accessible by password, just in case someone besides me is using it
[23:40] <hiexpo> ^peanut^,  i agree with that everyone that comes here is new to ubuntu  but what works works and whatdoes not  don't \
[23:41] <^peanut^> hiexpo: so if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work for anyone?
[23:41] <tensorpudding> I want to make compressed, incremental backups of /dev/sda5 on my laptop and put them on my fileserver
[23:41]  * JJ_ waits
[23:42] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Are they all primary partitions? If they are that could make things interesting.
[23:42] <blitzo> jordan_u yes they are all primaries
[23:42] <^peanut^> tensorpudding. ok I have a bash script that can do that and has been doing for my systems here. I can pastbin it for u if you'd like
[23:42] <tensorpudding> Okay, sure
[23:43] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Well, you can't have more than 4 primary partitions, and to make extended partitions you need to use one of those 4. So at least one of those parititons will need to be made extended.
[23:43] <nokia3510> erm, you/we're doomed :) http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
[23:43] <hiexpo> ^peanut^,  i  work on computers everyday and the rate of success for dual boot is about 19 percent
[23:43] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: from your laptop, you will need to have a smb/cifs, or nfs mount to your fileserver to store the files. Or, run it, have it dump the data locally, then have a wrapper script scp it to your file server.
[23:43] <JJ_> who is nokia me?
[23:43] <blitzo> jordan_u there is no option to install size-by-side
[23:43]  * nokia3510 congrats all wannabe programmers :)
[23:44] <tensorpudding> I'm fine with having to rsync the local stuff, I suppose
[23:44] <Jordan_U> blitzo: You can see how it normally looks here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[23:44] <tensorpudding> Having to mount the fileserver is a bit more annoying.
[23:44] <^peanut^> hiexpo: I understand as I do to. but, you had an issue and I don't have that issue. I have 150 engineers dual booting centos, ubuntu, and some of our custom linux distros all without issue. so again, for 1 to say it doesn't work because they had an issue and it won't work for others just doesn't make any sense to me.
[23:45] <tensorpudding> I suppose I could rig NFS up
[23:45] <dibs> partial upgrade reslove how??
[23:45] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: nfs is easy
[23:45] <tensorpudding> But it's one more thing I need to remember to disable when I'm not on the LAN
[23:45] <thune3> dibs: hard to tell without seeing more detailed information. Have you tried sudo "apt-get install -f"
[23:45] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: let me paste that script for u
[23:45] <Songer> how can i fix lucid? i cannot access
[23:45] <tensorpudding> Yeah, I've done NFS before
[23:45] <JJ_> hi there folks im trying to migrate my irc wscrabble bot from win7 to x-chat inubuntu its a consol application but when i run it i get a fcouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the consolewat do i do and yes i am root
[23:45] <Songer> mi mo notor goes black
[23:45] <dibs> thune3: will this do any damage if I run it? what does it do?
[23:45] <tensorpudding> Actually, nfsd is all configured on the fileserver
[23:46] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: yup, that's why I mentoned rsnapshot... you don't need an nfs mount for it =)
[23:46] <tensorpudding> The reason I really wanted dump and restore was how easy it was to configure on the fileserver
[23:46] <Jordan_U> gurudrew: It's odd that you have grub legacy installed in the MBR rather than grub2 (which is what 10.04 uses by default)
[23:46] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: true.
[23:47] <gurudrew> Jordan_U, I didn't mess with it, I installed from Wubi, and then just now used LVPM to 'transfer'
[23:47] <thune3> dibs: -f option to apt get "Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place." i doubt it will break things any more than they already are.
[23:47] <dibs> thune3: it seems I have a bunch of perl related packages to be removed. I update everyday and am wondering if this is correct
[23:47] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: here is the bash script stuff. the guy who wrote it moved it to sourceforge =) cool.
[23:47] <^peanut^> http://backup2l.sourceforge.net/
[23:47] <hiexpo> ^peanut^,  i  agree some what but i would rather tell someone no instead of yes and have them lose there os and files
[23:47] <blitzo> jordan_u ok then i need win7 advice and don't know where to get it.  what i want to know is whether the recovery disks rely on the recovery partition on the harddisk because we have to blow that away to accomplish this.  it did in xp but i don't know if it does in win7
[23:47] <gurudrew> It is possible that the legacy grub exists from a much older Ubuntu installation
[23:47] <gurudrew> This drive is quite ancient
[23:48] <thune3> dibs: can you pastebin the output of the commands you are running (and the commands)
[23:48] <gurudrew> In fact I'm trying to set Ubuntu up on a genuine partition so I can eliminate some of these other drives, to be honest.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Try asking in ##windows.
[23:48] <^peanut^> hiexpo: agreed, I wouldn't want someone to lose anything. and not for dual booting. I would say run a local vm instead.
[23:48] <blitzo> jordan_u thx much
[23:48] <gurudrew> s/drives/partitions/
[23:48] <Evolution-X> Hi Guys
[23:48] <andares> hey, Ubuntu uses PAX, doesn't it?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> blitzo: You're welcome.
[23:49] <hiexpo> ^peanut^,  yep vm or run live cd
[23:49] <tensorpudding> Looks pretty fancy
[23:49] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: if you use the backup2l, you can write a very small post script that scp's the data to your main fileserver =)
[23:49] <ericthehax> Im using lucid and all the packages, updates, or otherwise, in the repos are not authenticated, and I can't seem to fix it. Google is NOT helping. If f***in desperate. <---censorship pun, cause anything can start with f.
[23:49] <dibs> thune#: http://pastebin.ca/1904016
[23:49] <ericthehax> s/if/im
[23:50] <^peanut^> tensorpudding: it's not all that bad. very basic stuff. don't get to caught up on the drivers part of the config file. =) the defaults work great
[23:50] <dibs> thune3: http://pastebin.ca/1904016   -I also have my php pinned, do you think this may be whats wrong?
[23:50] <kazandra> alguien podria ayudarme por favor
[23:50] <tensorpudding> !es | kazandra
[23:51] <froschi> *flk* yeah, this will help me: An error occurred while extracting files. ... fileroller, this is a very fine error message...
[23:51] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Follow this guide to install grub2: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide You can follow it from within the Wubi install but you should probably have a LiveCD on hand in case something goes wrong.
[23:51] <karlo> how do I know if my graphical driver is installed ?
[23:51] <^peanut^> froschi: tryin to extract a file from gnome?
[23:51] <gregl> jj: doubt it will work: WScrabble is not a mIRC script but a small standalone Windows program in console-mode.  It say stand alone WINDOWS program..
[23:51] <nkei0> ^peanut^: does this mean that there is a bad block, but it's fixing or just pressing with the test? "23652896done, 1:15:50 elapsed"
[23:52] <^peanut^> nkei0: looks like it's still scanning the disk. wow how big is your HD?
[23:52] <lichunliang> 320
[23:52] <ericthehax> ...
[23:52] <gurudrew> Jordan_U, Any ideas on how to fix this?
[23:52] <froschi> ^peanut^: 'from' gnoem? maybe :) clicked on 'open', then 'extract' somwhere
[23:53] <thune3> dibs: those are just "obsolete" packages, you should be able to remove them if you want. It is not really a problem to leave them.
[23:53] <ericthehax> Not the walmart curse again ;_;
[23:53] <karlo> how do I know if my graphical driver is installed ?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Nvm, that last message was for gurudrew
[23:53] <nkei0> ^peanut^: Also, it just said  96.11% done, 1:16:25 elapsed Interrupt caught, cleaning up and then brought the prompt back.  I scanned a few different sections at a time, this section was 25gig... it takes about an hourish
[23:53] <gurudrew> ohh
[23:53] <gurudrew> ok thanks Jordan_U
[23:53] <gurudrew> I'll take a look
[23:53] <^peanut^> froschi: what type of file is it? *.gz *.bz2? *.zip?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> gurudrew: You're welcome.
[23:53] <econdudeawesome> Is Xubuntu really more resource efficient than Ubunut?
[23:53] <froschi> ^peanut^: bz2
[23:54] <Evolution-X> anyone with Ipod experiences that can help me please PM me
[23:54] <OldSmokey_> hello
[23:54] <tensorpudding> ericthehax: I have this problem on occasion too
[23:54] <^peanut^> nkei0: ok cool and you ran it with fsck -a right?
[23:54] <tensorpudding> did you mess with the sources?
[23:54] <Evolution-X> need help
[23:54] <gurudrew> econdudeawesome, the XFCE interface is really snappy, sometimes snappier than Gnome, but in 10.4 I've found gnome to be really awesome performance-wise
[23:54] <nkei0> ^peanut^: I haven't done that one yet
[23:54] <tensorpudding> you might need to run aptitude update
[23:54] <^peanut^> froschi: try openning a terminal, cd to the location of the *.bz2 and run bunzip "filename.bz2"
[23:54] <gurudrew> I'm totally in love with 10.4, just hate the pink/purple icons, which I've gotten rid of.
[23:54] <^peanut^> nkei0: oh ok.
[23:54] <ericthehax> tensorpudding: its been happening for quite a while... i think a few days at least... do you know what could be causing it?
[23:55] <^peanut^> nkei0: your still on your live cd right?
[23:55] <nkei0> ^peanut^: Yep
[23:55] <thune3> dibs: are you having an actual problem when you try to perform some install operation?
[23:55] <OldSmokey_> anybody using UE?
[23:55] <^peanut^> nkei0: ok... try running the fsck -a /dev/"whatever your disk partition is"
[23:55] <froschi> ^peanut^: yeah, doing that atm...  i think it's running out of diskspace... makes a strange file in some subdir first... maybe wants to COPY, not MOVE in the end... is this a know bug?
[23:55] <econdudeawesome> gurudrew I ask because I'm thinking of switching over to lubuntu for an older system. I am actually currently using lubuntu-desktop and the default interface isn't great, but it sure is amazingly fast.
[23:56] <robacarp> anyone in here use an apple bluetooth wireless kbd with 10.04?
[23:56] <econdudeawesome> gurudrew I was curious because Xubuntu is claimed to be for lower end systems, and lubuntu seems a lot better (via random google searches for info)
[23:56] <^peanut^> froschi: not sure if it's a bug. could you paste the output from your shell when it finishes? or fails?
[23:57] <froschi> ^peanut^: bunzip worked fine... :/ only cost me ~10 minutes waiting... think i'm going back to cmdline for all needs where possible :/
[23:57] <gurudrew> econdudeawesome, I don't have a reference point as I've never used lubuntu, but xubuntu is snappy from my experience.
[23:57] <hiexpo> arg
[23:57] <slidinghorn> econdudeawesome, lxde is a very lightweight DE compared to XFCE in my experience.  You can theme it up if you don't like the original look without too much trouble I'm sure...haven't tried to myself.
[23:57] <^peanut^> froschi: I'm so terminal bound for most things.  =) it's nice
[23:58] <^peanut^> hiexpo: what's up?
[23:58] <nkei0> ^peanut^: I get this "fsck: fsck.swap: not found ; fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.swap for /dev/sda5"  when running fsck -a /dev/sda5
 mint released a light version also
[23:58] <econdudeawesome> gurudrew good to know. I'm going to be setting up a LAMP and only want a minimal desktop environment. slidinghorn I'm fairly impressed--very very snappy, but no compiz. Compiz is nice, but not a dealbreaker if its missing
[23:58] <Evolution-X> Do i need codecs for ubuntu
[23:58] <nkei0> ^peanut^: Is it because I had the swapoff when i was deleted the extra linux swap space?
[23:58] <hiexpo> got booted
[23:58] <Evolution-X> video and audio codecs
[23:58] <Evolution-X> i got ubuntu 10.4
[23:58] <econdudeawesome> OldSmokey I haven't really been impressed with Linux Mint.  And GNOME panels/LXDE panels are easier to work with than whatever skin Linux Mint is using
[23:58] <slidinghorn> econdudeawesome, well if you're on a low-end system, compiz isn't good for you anyway...it's pretty resource intensive in itself
[23:58] <^peanut^> nkei0: hmm, good question.
[23:59] <dibs> thune3: it's just that every morning I get a partial upgrade dialogue instead of my old faithfull upgrades one
 depends on what you want to do
[23:59] <nkei0> ^peanut^: Turned it back on, and trying again.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Evolution-X: Generally just double clicking on a video / audio file will install the codecs needed automatically.
[23:59] <^peanut^> nkei0: have you tried to remove the swap first, then add in to swap?
[23:59] <soreau> slidinghorn: Its only as resource intensive as the plugins you have enabled.
[23:59] <Evolution-X> i see that happends on rythmbox
[23:59] <^peanut^> ok brb
[23:59] <econdudeawesome> slidinghorn I'm not, but I like my DE to use little resources, since I do a lot of scientific computing/number crunching. I get tired of doing that in CLI
[23:59] <hiexpo> add medibuntu  repos i think still in 10.04
[23:59] <nkei0> ^peanut^: no, i just tried it with swapon and it still failed for the same reason.
[23:59] <Evolution-X> ok