[00:00] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: I'm pretty sure they work..
[00:00] <PointyThingsHurt> Slart: I'm having speed issues connecting to a NAS box on the network
[00:00] <PointyThingsHurt> my network status is 1000 Mb/sec
[00:00] <dorkface> akos:  I don't know how much easier it would be, but you may be able to use aliases to connect to networks, so whenever you have to connect to a different network, all you'd need to do is type in one command
[00:00] <akos> yeah, ok thx
[00:00] <dorkface> It wouldn't be automatic, but closer to your goal
[00:00] <jscinoz> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop, i downloaded the image of the desktop CD and found however X cant start. Is there a text based installer included on the desktop CD? and if so what is the command to start it?
[00:00] <PointyThingsHurt> my brother gets a 500MB file in less than a minute off the NAS
[00:00] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: is there a max speed defined for the NAS-box?
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> jscinoz: Nope you have to download another cd
[00:01] <PointyThingsHurt> and he's in XP
[00:01] <Retro`> i've installed Ripper X
[00:01] <PointyThingsHurt> but when i get the same file, it takes 15 minutes
[00:01] <Retro`> see what that gives
[00:01] <vishal> Is it possible to force application to start on a certain desktop?
[00:01] <unbeatabl> how can i have my own,  ns1.mydomain.com ns2.mydomain.com ? if mydomain.com uses ns1.mydomain.com , how does mydomain.com even haev an IP in the first place?  and if domain registrar doesnt give me this functionality, what shal i do?
[00:01] <genii> jscinoz: No text based installer on the regular cd, you need to get the alternate
[00:01] <proqesi> vishal: define "force"
[00:01] <PointyThingsHurt> shouldnt be, like i said. brother gets the file in less than a minute
[00:01] <thefoxx> hi
[00:02] <vishal> proqesi: for example, when i run pidgin it will open on desktop 6
[00:02] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: ah.. so your problem has nothing to do with gigabit networks.. I would say your problem is "samba is slow, how can I fix it"
[00:02] <sonja> how do i set it up so i don't have to type in my login name when ubuntu boots up, but i can just select it from a list of users on my computer using the mouse?
[00:02] <vishal> proqesi: instead of the current desktop
[00:02] <Seeb> vishal: set DISPLAY before running it
[00:02] <PointyThingsHurt> you think its my samba client?
[00:02] <jscinoz> genii, ugh thats so weak.. another 700mb to waste >_<
[00:02] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: I can only confirm.. I get shitty speeds when using samba to transfer files.. I don't know how to fix it
[00:02] <Seeb> vishal: DISPLAY=":0:1" pidgin
[00:02] <vishal> Seeb: I dont understand,
[00:02] <thefoxx> I have a problem with a package I build with PPA - it's a multi binary package and one "sub package" is sawn by apt every time as newer as the same version - difficult to explain ;)
[00:03] <PointyThingsHurt> Very interesting.  I never even realized it could be the samba CLIENT..
[00:03] <thefoxx> if I update to my builded version it still sais there is again a new version
[00:03] <vishal> Seeb: so i would put that in the console and it would open on desktop 1?
[00:03] <genii> jscinoz: Well, if you already have some other box running ubuntu, maybe do a netboot install
[00:03] <thefoxx> but it's the same version...
[00:03] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: try something else then.. ftp, nas.. see if they are faster
[00:03] <thefoxx> update from 0.0.1 to 0.0.1
[00:03] <Seeb> vishal: or whatever display you want it to appear on
[00:04] <PointyThingsHurt> good idea
[00:04] <vishal> Seeb: I have pidgin load on startup, forgot how, but how would i make that load on desktop 6?
[00:04] <Rufus_> if i downloaded a "screenlet", how can i launch it?
[00:04] <bruenig> !info devilspie | vishal
[00:04] <ubotu> vishal: devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.2-1build1 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 132 kB
[00:04] <Slart> Rufus_: screenlet manager.. in settings
[00:05] <Rufus_> thank you
[00:05] <Slart> Rufus_: screenlets in system, preferences
[00:05] <Slart> you're welcome, Rufus_
[00:07] <earthling_> any sugestions on how to make a router out of a linux machine? i hurd it was possible
[00:07] <jscinoz> genii is therea guide to how to do a netboot
[00:07] <genii> jscinoz: Yes, give me a minute
[00:07] <Slart> earthling_: it is.. you don't even need ubuntu.. there are small distros that fit on a cd that do that..
[00:08] <astro76> earthling_, nice pun ;)
[00:08] <PriceChild> I need to do some setkeycode's on boot, what file should I put them in? /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[00:08] <jscinoz> wait nevermind
[00:08] <Slart> earthling_: you'll be using iptables and masquerading.. google for linux internet sharing or something like that.. there are tons of howto's out there
[00:08] <jscinoz> i got x to start
[00:08] <genii> jscinoz: Excellent guide here: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[00:08] <vishal> bruenig: thanks, I just installed it, when i ran it from the console it said: No s-expressions loaded, quiting. any ideas?
[00:09] <jscinoz> thanks, i might not need it anymore, i got X to start by giving the live cd the vga=791 bit
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> vishal: Try man devilspie
[00:09] <genii> jscinoz: Ah, good
[00:09] <bruenig> vishal, read the documentation, you need to write some config files for different applications and put it in ~/.devilspie
[00:09] <genii> Well, logoff time for me
[00:10] <|juan|> can someone help me with gnome+compiz?
[00:10] <vishal> Odd-rationale: bruenig: Cool thanks for the help
[00:10] <|juan|> i have two monitors... one is a 19" standard and the other a 19" wide
[00:10] <|juan|> i'd like to have my taskbar and system bar on the wide screen
[00:10] <Nikolai> is it so difficult to get Adsl Usb modem workin' on linux? :(
[00:11] <|juan|> but the system bar spans across both windows
[00:11] <lcphr3ak> Hey, I have no CD-ROM drive on this computer i'm trying to install ubuntu on, and decided to try out a USB flash drive. I downloaded the .iso, and used dd to image it onto a flash drive. However, it's not booting. Would there be a reason why? I'm trying to get the usb flash to boot just like a live cd-r
[00:11] <adamonline46> Hello.  I got my Intel e1000 ethernet adapter installed, modprobed the driver with no errors, added it by MAC address to my iftab, added eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces file, and I still get errors when I try to ifup it.  Does anyone know what I can do?  I've exhausted google, but to no avail...
[00:11] <crdlb> |juan|: are you using twinview?
[00:11] <ales> Hi all! Is it possible to disable xgl and dri from the command line in ubuntu?
[00:11] <lwizardl> hi
[00:11] <earthling_> Slart: can i ask a somewhat specific question about a network situation which has been naging me for quiet some time?
[00:11] <crdlb> ales: ? that doesn't really make sense
[00:11] <Slart> earthling_: sure, go ahead
[00:11] <lwizardl> can someone tell me how i turn off UTF-8
[00:12] <crdlb> ales: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[00:12] <|juan|> crdlb: when i run nvidia-settings, it says i'm not using the nvidia x driver...
[00:12] <Evolution2> ales: why would you do that
[00:12] <pike_> lcphr3ak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:12] <ifireball> lcphr3ak: well, the answer is within the question, there is a website called pendrive linux with instructions on how to get ubuntu on a pendrive
[00:12] <crdlb> |juan|: but you *do* have an nvidia card?
[00:12] <|juan|> yeah
[00:12] <lcphr3ak> alright, thanks guys :)
[00:12] <|juan|> i ran sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:12] <|juan|> going to restart x
[00:13] <crdlb> ok
[00:13] <goldphish> So I'm trying to compile a module for my running kernel based on the headers package. I type 'make modules' and get this... "No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c'" Any ideas?
[00:13] <HohoHuhu> Yes. Say oh shit!
[00:13] <Nikolai> could anyone help me or point me to some link with tutorial, for setiing an connexant usb adsl modem? :)
[00:13] <astro76> !language | HohoHuhu
[00:13] <HohoHuhu> No...
[00:13] <ubotu> HohoHuhu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:13] <earthling_> Slart: there are three comps connected to single switch. compA and compB have ip addrs of diff domains but compC has ip addrs of both domains throught virtual addressing. will A be able to ping B
[00:14] <quaal> anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine
[00:14] <ifireball> adamonline46: did you try "ifup"ing without doing the iftab bit?
[00:14] <LimCore> ubuntu failed totally to provide wokring fonts.  the bug is reported for days (weeks?) and still not fixed, what the?
[00:15] <Slart> earthling_: wow.. that sounds like something out of a cisco cert exam =).. I have no idea.. you could try and set it up using virtual machines just to see what happens
[00:15] <HohoHuhu> Is asm-offset.c really present where you untarred your kernel?
[00:15] <adamonline46> ifireball: Oooh, a reboot seemed to fix it... Let me try it out, thanks for responding thus far, though!
[00:15] <|juan|> still says it bud... not running nvidia x driver
[00:15] <crdlb> |juan|: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:16] <|juan|> running it according to restricted drivers
[00:16] <ales> crdlb: I'd like to run X without xgl when I am using my laptop battery. Latest intel video driver has a bug and it causes more than 100 unnecessary wakeups per sec when xgl is present. Removing "xserver-xgl" solves this. I'd only like to do it only while on batt - so I was thinkng of writing a script to do it automatically :D
[00:16] <Nikolai> looks like it's to difficult -.-
[00:16] <crdlb> ales: why would you want to use Xgl with intel?
[00:16] <ifireball> earthling: you'll need to enable ip-forwarding
[00:16] <ifireball> earthling: on compC
[00:16] <ales> crdlb: Ummm, I' dont get any compizs effect if do not have it installed?
[00:17] <ifireball> earthling_: you'll need to enable ip-forwarding
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: bad answer :)
[00:17] <HohoHuhu> Goldphish, are you sure you make mrproper before trying to compile?
[00:17] <ifireball> earthling_:  on compC
[00:17] <Towelboy> hi...anyone know how to play streaming divx movies in ubuntu? Seems Mplayer starts to download instead and sometimes freezes
[00:17] <ales> crdlb: Is there any other way? :D
[00:17] <earthling_> Slart: dont have more than one comp at my hand. but will try some how....... it does not work if one of them is windows
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: you have a i965?
[00:17] <ales> crdlb: Yes? How'd you know??? :D
[00:17] <HohoHuhu> (backing up your .config before...)
[00:17] <goldphish> HohoHuhu: nope, didn't know I needed to :)
[00:17] <earthling_> ifireball: how do we do that?
[00:17] <|juan|> crdlb: http://pastebin.com/d444e5e08
[00:17] <PointyThingsHurt> Slart: Samba is the culprit.
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: you just need to "unblacklist" it
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: join #compiz-fusion for a sec
[00:17] <ifireball> earthling_: if compC a linux machine?
[00:17] <Slart> earthling_: that's why you could use virtual machines.. you run 3 little machines inside that one..
[00:18] <HohoHuhu> BACKUP YOUR CONFIG BEFORE!
[00:18] <Slart> !vm | earthling_
[00:18] <ubotu> earthling_: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[00:18] <wpk> hm.
[00:18] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: ah.. ftp was faster?
[00:18] <ifireball> earthling_: is* compC a linux machine?
[00:18] <wpk> it doesn't say anythinkg about KVM
[00:18] <|juan|> crdlb: also, it has each of my monitors... one at 1280x1024 and the other at 1440x900 and it's making them a combined 2720x1024. so windows maximize across the both... annoyance :)
[00:18] <earthling_> fireball:yes
[00:18] <foso> how do i sudo into a folder?
[00:19] <HohoHuhu> loll
[00:19] <gogzmer> How can I access the phpmyadmin page after I installed the package?
[00:19] <pike_> foso: you dont really need to what do you need to do?
[00:19] <crdlb> |juan|: you're definitely using the nvidia driver :/ So I have no idea why nvidia-settings thinks otherwise
[00:19] <goldphish> HohoHuhu: hmm, still getting the same error
[00:19] <HohoHuhu> cd your folder if you get the credentials.
[00:19] <nickrud> foso, you can't, is this a directory you can't read without sudo?
[00:19] <foso> pike_ what?
[00:19] <gogzmer> nevermind
[00:19] <foso> nickrud im trying to drag and drop a theme file into the usr/share/theme folder
[00:19] <earthling_> Slart: i did not understand that thing abt usini VM, or wine?
[00:19] <HohoHuhu> cd your folder if you get the credentials. Else you have to sudo into a user having the right rights on this folder...
[00:20] <pike_> foso: gksu nautilus or sudo mv file /usr/share/theme/
[00:20] <crdlb> |juan|: ah, turn off xinerama
[00:20] <ifireball> earthling_: the quick and dirty die-on-reboot way but distro agnostic: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" (run as root)
[00:20] <earthling_> ifireball:yes linux machine
[00:20] <|juan|> where is that setting located?
[00:20] <HohoHuhu> This chatroom is lots of lolz!
[00:20] <nickrud> foso, ah, gksudo nautilus will let you do that, but it's dangerous. You should instead do it in a terminal, sudo cp /path/to/theme /usr/share/themes
[00:20] <crdlb> |juan|: you seem to have enabled it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:20] <Slart> earthling_: not wine.. virtual machines.. you run a program that simulates a whole computer.. network and all.. then you run 3 of those.. at the same time.. and try the ping thing
[00:20] <|juan|> i bet the nvidia-xconfig did that :-P
[00:20] <|juan|> one sec
[00:21] <earthling_> ifireball: ok will try that... thx
[00:21] <crdlb> |juan|: look for Option "Xinerama" "true" and remove it
[00:21] <ales> crdlb: Thanks. I'll try it right now ;)
[00:21] <heartsblood> I've been having a heck of a lot of trouble with the recent release of moblock, is there any place I can go to get advice?
[00:21] <foso> nickrud i dont understand that all the way sorry
[00:21] <Slart> earthling_: virtualbox is one such virtual machine.. it's a nice way to try things out without having 10 machines at home
[00:22] <|juan|> crdlb: brb
[00:22] <earthling_> Slart: did not about anything like that. Thnks forthe info. Now i have something to work on
[00:22] <pintovisk> hi folks
[00:22] <HohoHuhu> hi
[00:22] <nickrud> foso, normally you don't have write permissions to anything outside your home directory. You need to elevate your rights to the admin level to write there.  gksudo is used with gui programs, and sudo on the command line to get those permissions
[00:22] <pintovisk> I want help
[00:22] <HohoHuhu> ?
[00:22] <Towelboy> Hi all! How do i play online divx? mplayer isn't quite up for the task...
[00:23] <LimCore> ubuntu fails me so much.  even the fonts are broken! it fails to display german and other european characters!! and this bug is known for 5 months!!! and not fixed STILL O__o
[00:23] <HohoHuhu> Yes. It is!
[00:23] <pintovisk> my webcam don't works with linux
[00:23] <Slart> earthling_: you're welcome.. and have fun with those vm's
[00:23] <HohoHuhu> lulz
[00:23] <foso> nickrud sorry, i understand that roughly, in less technical terms, but i dont know what to type in the terminal besides gksudo
[00:23] <HohoHuhu> webcamz now...
[00:23] <LimCore> why  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera/+bug/11180  is still not fixed  (and others reported months ago)
[00:23] <adamonline46> ifireball: RE e1000... I said it looked like it was working... Well, in actuality it gets assigned an IP address, but then I get this error: postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: no such file or directory.  I am unable to ping out.  Any ideas?
[00:24] <loopyzort> wow this channel is huge. anyone know where i should go for problems with my video card?
[00:24] <crdlb> LimCore: what is preventing you from using dejavu sans?
[00:24] <HohoHuhu> Yes. Your webcam is working with linux.  The simplest way to install a theme is  system->prefs->appearances , then drag & drop the theme onto the window
[00:24] <HohoHuhu> Which video card?
[00:24] <ifireball> adamonline46: the error seems unrelated, its a postfix (mail server) error
[00:24] <LimCore> crdlb: people have to apply the fix themselves
[00:24] <loopyzort> it's an ati radeon x300
[00:24] <loopyzort> i've read a billion conflicting opinions on how to set it up
[00:24] <foso> nickrud yeah, it doesnt show up after i try that though
[00:24] <Slart> LimCore: talk to canonical.. everyone here is a ubuntu user just like you.. if you want to yell at someone, at least yell at someone that's making money of it =)
[00:24] <ifireball> adamonline46: what does ethtool tell you, does it detect the link?
[00:25] <LimCore> Slart: ok
[00:25] <goldphish> Hmm, so the module I am trying to build is called 'keyspan'. It's included in a vanilla kernel but not in the ubuntu stock builds. How do I obtain the source package for that module since it's included in the kernel itself? I would like to use the kernel headers from my running kernel if possible.
[00:25] <nickrud> foso, then the next step is to unpack it into your own home , at /home/<you>/.themes .
[00:25] <Towelboy> streaming divx in linux?? anybody knows how to?
[00:25] <nickrud> foso, as a general rule you don't want to put things in system locations
[00:26] <HohoHuhu> Google says that in year 2005, ppl had some hard time getting x300 to work with ubuntu...
[00:26] <HohoHuhu> rofl.
[00:26] <loopyzort> hehe, i'm glad to know that
[00:26] <loopyzort> it works somewhat in 7.10
[00:26] <foso> nickrud, i extracted it to the desktop, i dont see a themes fold in my home folder
[00:26] <jesse> anyone feel like troubleshooting flash sync problems with me?
[00:26] <loopyzort> but video is poor and visual effects don't work
[00:27] <nickrud> foso, hit ctl-h in the file manager window
[00:27] <HohoHuhu> flash sync?
[00:27] <Noodels> Just a quick question, would I need to install a special os to use the full power of a dual core processor?
[00:27] <adamonline46> ifireball: ethtool?  How do I use that?  I'm in CLI, by the way, in case it's a GUI thing...  Typing ethtool by itself says 'invalid arguments'
[00:27] <jesse> yes, i've tried everything
[00:27] <HohoHuhu> sync, sync, sync.
[00:27] <nickrud> foso, if you still don't see it, then you would make it
[00:27] <erUSUL> LimCore: use DejaVu fonts they are packaged for ubuntu
[00:27] <jesse> i've tried the "aoss" thing, the .asoundrc file, nothing works
[00:27] <nickrud> foso, and it's important that it be    .themes   , the period at the beginning makes it hidden
[00:27] <jesse> im a relatively advanced user, i dunno wtf is the problem
[00:27] <foso> nickrud i just learned about the ctrl h thing but didnt realize it was there but hidden
[00:27] <HohoHuhu> What ou mean jesse?
[00:27] <Slart> Noodels: well.. I don't think there is an OS out there that fully utilizes a dual core processor.. there are many that can use dual core though
[00:28] <jesse> the sound plays out of sync with the video with the flash plugin
[00:28] <foso> nickrud i put it in there
[00:28] <ifireball> adamonline46: its almost illegal to say here, but honestly, read the manpage please, it is a cli tool btw.
[00:28] <HohoHuhu> kk
[00:28] <Noodels> Slart : I just mean to be able to use a dual core processor with multithreading.
[00:28] <nickrud> foso, what did the package end in, like .tar.gz ?
[00:28] <HohoHuhu> hard one then...
[00:28] <Slart> Noodels: I don't know if vista or the latest ubuntu uses it any different than say.. windows 2000
[00:28] <Slart> Noodels: oh.. most operating systems today do that
[00:29] <foso> nickrud yes, i extracted that by right clicking, then dropped that into themes, is that right? its not showing up in pref/appearances
[00:29] <Noodels> Slart : I'm just trying to explain to a friend that you don't need to go to the trouble of compiling a special kernel if you have a dual core.
[00:29] <foso> nickrud by yes i meant yes tar.gz
[00:29] <Slart> !smp
[00:29] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[00:29] <HohoHuhu> Original flash plugin, running with firefox?
[00:29] <ifireball> adamonline46: essentially its "ethtool ethX" (replace X with something meaningful)
[00:29] <nickrud> foso, what kind of theme was it, exactly
[00:30] <Slart> Noodels: they've stopped using the special kernels.. you can read the reasons for it in that link from ubotu
[00:30] <foso> gtk 2.x
[00:30] <foso> nickrud its called slickness, i found it on gnomelook i think
[00:30] <ifireball> wow
[00:30] <nickrud> foso, you might not see it unless you click the customize button on the theme manager, the default view is meta themes, window borders and icons and gtk2 together
[00:30] <loopyzort> oh well, i suppose it's back to windows. if it's not wireless being difficult, it's video drivers. who knew i'd want my computer to connect to a network _and_ display things
[00:31] <nickrud> foso, and by the way, unpacking and dropping into .themes was the right thing
[00:31] <Noodels> Thanks.
[00:31] <Slart> loopyzort: enjoy your new operating system.. hope it works better for you than ubuntu did
[00:32] <hvgotcodes> can someone help me install awesome wm on gutsy?
[00:32] <goldphish> Ugh, got disconnected. Did anyone answer my question about building a module against a stock ubuntu kernel?
[00:32] <foso> nickrud, its not in any of the aub windows, two other themes that i dropped into the window before were in the .themes folder already and are visible in the window
[00:32] <Slart> "awesome wm" ?
[00:33] <Xjs> uh, netsplits are most impressive here.
[00:33] <nickrud> foso, then that theme might very well be broken
[00:33] <adamonline46> ifireball: Ahh, sorry :)  You asked what it told me, so I figured it would be a self-explanatory app or I might get a sample argument list... Anyway, doing 'ethtool eth0', everything looks fine, but 'link detected', which is 'no'.  Does that sound right?
[00:33] <MaRRe-ocp> o_O
[00:33] <hvgotcodes> awesome: its a dwm derivative
[00:33] <goldphish> Ahh, netsplit... That explains it
[00:33] <ales> Hi all! Anyone knows if there is a fix for xserver-xorg-video-intel driver? If I do not have "NoDRI" Option in xorg.conf I get more than +100 needles wakeups/sec in powertop which is eating up my laptop battery much faster?
[00:34] <Slart> ales: have you checked launchpad? or wherever they keep the bugs
[00:34] <ifireball> goldphish: there is a debian tool called "module-assistant" not sure if it works on ubuntu though
[00:34] <nickrud> ifireball, yes it does
[00:34] <ales> Slart: I have, but there hasn't been any recent updates :(
[00:34] <foso> nickrud i clicked install from the window that appearance opens up, then ctrl h selected it, it had another tar.gz folder, i double clicked it and it works
[00:35] <foso> nickrud thanks alot for all of your help!
[00:35] <Slart> ales: hmm.. let's just hope they are quiet because they are working hard on it =)
[00:35] <ifireball> adamonline46: check your cabling...
[00:35] <BloodyScum> every time i go to youtube and try to watch a video, ubuntu crashes, the interface i cant even get in to the terminal, im useing firefox with a few adons, but nothing that should be affecting youtube.. anyone ever herd of anything like that?
[00:35] <ales> Slart: LOL. Crossing my fingers :)
[00:36] <goldphish> ifireball: yeah, it does. But i use it and get "keyspan, what is keyspan?" Probably indicating that it doesn't know how to build that module. The source for it is included in a vanilla kernel.
[00:36] <nickrud> ales, you might want to find the x.org bug tracker, that's probably more up to date
[00:36] <ales> nickrud: ok. i will - thanks!
[00:37] <ifireball> goldphish: its might be named differently in there, I remember m-a has some listing and searching commands
[00:38] <uzerzero> anybody happen to know anything about how a synaptics trackpad talks to ubuntu?
[00:38] <SQFreak> I have a question about using rsync -- how can I make it ignore the path information (i.e. when I tell it to sync /home/user/stuff, I want only the files and directories inside stuff to appear, not /home/user/stuff/files)?
[00:38] <uzerzero> the scrollbar on mine randomly stopped working earlier today.
[00:38] <PointyThingsHurt> So it seems my Samba client has speed issues
[00:39] <ifireball> goldphish: other then that I'll have to refer you to the m-a docs (google, and in /use/share/doc), but I know that is the tool you need for the job
[00:39] <akorn> anybody know how i can get my resolution on my GMA 950 video card to go above 1440 x 900?
[00:39] <goldphish> ifireball: cool, thanks
[00:39] <akorn> i want 1680x1050
[00:39] <SQFreak> never mind; i got my answer.
[00:40] <atomdog2003> anyone have advise regarding setting up a good webcam?
[00:40] <WinXpNewb> Is it possible to sort the opened windows in window selector to sort by alphabetical order? (Linux Mint/Ubuntu-based Distro)
[00:40] <uzerzero> atomdog2003: have you already purchased the webcam?
[00:41] <atomdog2003> uzerzero: I haven't bought anything yet
[00:41] <Slart> atomdog2003: check carefully that the webcam works and is supported by ubuntu before buying it..
[00:42] <pike_> !webcam | atomdog2003
[00:42] <ubotu> atomdog2003: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:42] <pike_> atomdog2003: well the !hardware link would of been more help
[00:42] <ifireball> !module-assistant
[00:42] <nickrud> !synaptics | uzerzero
[00:42] <ubotu> uzerzero: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[00:42] <atomdog2003> Slart: how can I check if the webcam is supported?
[00:42]  * Slart has a very nice webcam that isn't supported.. it looks very shiny on top of the monitor.. but it does nothing =)
[00:42] <Slart> atomdog2003: look at the link ubotu wrote. a few lines up
[00:43] <Phophos> Hey, how does one configure the display of the splash loading screen? It's claiming to be "out of range" on my monitor ...
[00:43] <uzerzero> atomdog2003: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Webcams
[00:45] <atomdog2003> thanks for the links and advise on webcams
[00:45] <Aztec007> hey guys, I'm dual booting a PC with Ubuntu / XP, I first installed Ubuntu's "/', and "/boot" directories on one partition, does that make it impossible to dual boot the machine? After I installed XP, I had to reedit the menu.lst file but when I select windows now it wont load
[00:46] <pike_> Aztec007: as long as xp installed ok and booted before you rewrote the mbr you are fine
[00:46] <atomdog2003> Aztec007:  I think you need to install Windows first
[00:46] <atomdog2003> anyone out there using ZoneMinder?
[00:46] <Slart> Aztec007: I'm not sure you *have* to install xp first.. but it's easier
[00:47] <pike_> Aztec007: you using chainloader?
[00:47] <Slart> Aztec007: if you do install ubuntu first you'll need a live cd to restore the mbr after you're done installing xp
[00:47] <quaal> anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine
[00:47] <slugone> u think the american army can spy on you while u play the game american army?>
[00:47] <atomdog2003> anyone out there using a webcam for anything?  if so then what are you using the webcam for?
[00:47] <hd> good morning everyone
[00:48] <Slart> !offtopic | slugone
[00:48] <ubotu> slugone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:48] <Phophos> Never mind, I've solved my own problem - /etc/usplash.conf
[00:48] <Aztec007> pike: well I read a tutorial on editing the menu.lst file and one of the options in the menu part was chainloader I think it was set to  = -1
[00:48] <PriceChild> Azer, +
[00:48] <slugone> im new to linux i dont know how tight the security is
[00:48] <bastid_raZor> slugone:: run as a user and not root .. security is rock solid
[00:48] <slugone> 10-4
[00:49] <Slart> slugone: that question had nothing to do with security.. if you run a binary someone else sent you... well..you've got yourself to blame
[00:49] <atomdog2003> what is your favorite ubuntu app?
[00:49] <DigitalNinja> Are there any good instructions out there for horde?
[00:49] <Slart> atomdog2003: xchat-gnome of course =)
[00:50]  * nickrud hexes Slart again and again and again and again
[00:50] <pike_> Aztec007: it sounds like you are fine. after you installed xp it rebooted to finish windows setup and worked right?
[00:50] <Slart> hehe.. it's nice and shiney.. a bit stupid at times.. but I like it =)
[00:51] <atomdog2003> Slart: that is what you are using for IRC?
[00:51] <Slart> it could use a spellchecker though.. ahem.. shiny
[00:51] <elson6659> hey there - can someone give me a quick hint? I have a wireless card for which I need to use ndiswrapper, all fine and good. but the only way I know how to start the card is by using 'dhclient' - how can I start it with a static ip address? I'm using xubuntu, but happy on the console.
[00:51] <Slart> atomdog2003: yes
[00:51] <pike_> Aztec007: if that is the case id see the !fixmbr link because as long as windows installed grub doesnt care where it is
[00:52] <DigitalNinja> elson6659: You need to configure /etc/network
[00:52] <elson6659> ok
[00:52] <Josspyker> elson6659: man iwconfig and edit etc/network/interfaces
[00:52] <DigitalNinja> elson6659: Wait! that's not right. let me check
[00:52] <elson6659> and then what command would I use to bring up the network, instead of dhclient? is it ifup?
[00:52] <atomdog2003> Slart: I'm using Hydra on windows because ubuntu is tripping over my two video cards (or something).  I'm going to pull one card and try agiain.
[00:52] <Slart> atomdog2003: try out  "add/remove"  in the main "Applications" menu.. those apps are all pretty popular and well supported.. at least the ones with a little ubuntu mark next to them
[00:53] <DigitalNinja> elson6659: /etc/network/interfaces
[00:53] <raichlea> hi all.  I am having problems with my current java plugin in firefox.  I have 7.10 with the     File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
[00:53] <raichlea>     Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03.   I read about something called icedtea, is this a better plugin for me?
[00:53] <steve___> steve__: booga
[00:53] <Slart> atomdog2003: oh.. I don't think I've ever had 2 videocards in a machine before.. ubuntu doesn't like it?
[00:53] <neutr0n> anyone have an idea why i cant switch my video driver over to intel 945 from the i810 which it is not under screens and graphics?
[00:54] <ctothej> Update manager has prompted me to install linux-headers-2.6.22-14, l-h-generic and linux-image... but I have compiled <IP_ADDRESS>, installed, and am using that kernel version for a hardware compatibility issue that it fixes. What would happen if I let update manager install the 2.6.22-24.47 update? Should I just use synaptic to lock or freeze these particular updates?
[00:54] <simulacra> lll
[00:54] <atomdog2003> Slart:  Not sure.  But when I switched my monitor from one to the other it lit up and worked until I installed ssh.  Now all is black again.
[00:54] <pedrotmartinez> Good afternoon
[00:54] <pedrotmartinez> I have ubuntu gutsy installed on my laptop
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[00:55] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: You should be able to tell the update manager not to install the new kernel
[00:55] <gabbah> what does it mean when qtparted lists a partition as "active"?
[00:55] <pedrotmartinez> And I cannot connect to wifi, only by ethernet
[00:55] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[00:55] <kriel> I happen to use firefox for my messaging and music while I'm using my computer (See: meebo.com|pandora.com) and I also browse around on the internet. There are several sites, however, that happen to lock up my browser. So: is there any way I can get firefox to launch two completely seperate instances of itself? If not, can somebody reccomend a similar browser (preferably in the apt repositories?)
[00:55] <Slart> atomdog2003: hmm.. didn't know ssh would affect your graphics setup.. well well.. try asking about it here.. someones bound to know what to do
[00:55] <pedrotmartinez> what can I do?
[00:55] <tritium> !wireless | pedrotmartinez
[00:55] <ubotu> pedrotmartinez: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:55] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: If it does install the new kernel you just need to edit grub and make sure your kernel is loaded first
[00:55] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: ok, I can lock the versions in synaptic. what would it do if I let it install?
[00:56] <gogzmer> Why, after re-starting, would the "ls" command not display things in different colors(ex. Sym-links vs. files)
[00:56] <tritium> Slart: ssh does not affect your graphics setup
[00:56] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: ok... so kernel updates through update manager would update grub?
[00:56] <atomdog2003> Does ubuntu have problems with NVidia video cards?
[00:56] <tritium> atomdog2003: no more than any other distro
[00:56] <Slart> tritium: it did for atomdog2003.. or it happened at the same time =)
[00:56] <tritium> Slart: the latter
[00:56] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: Yes. I have had this happen to me. Just edit the grub menu file and reboot
[00:57] <ctothej> atomdog2003: actually, NVidia cards work very well, better than many others.
[00:57] <Gnea> hey everyone, I got one of these usb mini photo viewers for christmas - neat little thing, but I'm trying to get it working in ubuntu - it plugs in and lights up right away, but I don't see any driver try to take advantage of it in gutsy..
[00:57] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: ok great thanks
[00:57] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: If you don't know how to do this just hit "Esc" on boot so you get the grub boot menu. You should be able to pick your kernel.
[00:57] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: That's assuming your kernel is still in the menu.
[00:57] <kriel> Gnea: does it happen to recognize it as a usb flash drive?
[00:58] <Gnea> kriel: nafaik - but i haven't done any manual loading of modules yet
[00:58] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: true, I am familiar with editing the grub menu, so that shouldn't be a problem.
[00:58] <Gnea> this is all it says with lsusb: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0979:0221 Jeilin Technology Corp., Ltd
[00:58] <kriel> Gnea: do a ls /dev | grep [hs]d[a-z] and see what pops up. Is there anything newish in there?
[00:59] <atomdog2003> when I installed video signal was coming from my NVidia.  After install the signal was only coming from my 2nd graphics card.  All was well - I just switched over to it.  Then, I installed ssh and the screen is black.  The system won't start.  I'm windering if the signal is now coming from the NVidia card?  no idea.  I'm going to pull the 2nd card and re-install.
[00:59] <kyu_flux> sorry, you probably get this all the time... xchat dcc broken (behind router but works on windows boxes)
[00:59] <Gnea> kriel: no, they all have the same timestamp as when the system booted up a few days ago
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: Hold off on that
[01:00] <pike_> kyu_flux: its not a firewall issue with ubuntu unless you installed firestarter or something
[01:00] <maestrojed> With a default installation of apache2, where is the default location for the .htpasswd file?
[01:00] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  hold off?
[01:00] <kyu_flux> pike_: I didn't install that at all
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: First try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or manually edit your xorg from recovery mode with sudo nano
[01:00] <Gnea> maestrojed: iirc, that's defined by the .htaccess file
[01:01] <kriel> Gnea: the only other idea that i can suggest is possibly looking through the forums and/or through apt and see if there's anything in either of those sources. Was there a manual included, and if so, was there any useful info in there?
[01:01] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks - will do
[01:01] <maestrojed> Gnea: That makes sense.  Thank you
[01:01] <adamonline46> ifireball: Yay!  A new cable now shows up as 'linked' in ethtool.  Half my cables don't even turn on the activity/connect lights... Anyway, I still  cant ping or ssh or anything... any ideas?
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: I was just trying to catch you before you logged off
[01:01] <pike_> kyu_flux: sudo iptables -L will tell you that everything is set to accept so its not a firewally issue on ubuntu it has to be the router or a config issue with xchat id think try /join #xchat maybe they will be more knowledgable
[01:02] <kyu_flux> pike_: ahh, nevermind, I figured it out... bah...
[01:02] <pike_> heh
[01:02] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  oh - I'm on at work right now - this problem is at home - so - these are long term goals
[01:02] <kyu_flux> pike_: thanks though
[01:02] <Gnea> kriel: well i already googled it - it looks like it's one of those cheap devices from china (hong kong, specifically) that's geared toward mass-market. the manual is very much engrish, but it looks like someone from america actually went over it with a comb before letting it go
[01:02] <macd> I've installed mtop, and it works, however dist-upgrade can never complete b/c dpkg configure fails to realize that mysql has a root password, without removing the package how can this be fixed?
[01:03] <ifireball> adamonline46: well, have you got the IP and netmask settings right? what are you pinging anyway? sure it doesn't have a firewall on?
[01:03] <Svish> I am in a directory. How can I recursively compress all files of a certain type with gz? I want to compress all css and js files. So if there is a stuff.js file, then afterwards, there should also be a stuff.js.gz file
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: You could also try running live and copying the xorg from livecd to your installed system
[01:03] <trollboy> If I leave my machine on screen saver, ubuntu auto logs me out after so long
[01:03] <trollboy> how do I disable that
[01:03] <macd> the output of the mtop error is: david@thor:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[01:03] <macd> Reading package lists... Done
[01:03] <macd> Building dependency tree
[01:03] <macd> Reading state information... Done
[01:03] <macd> Calculating upgrade... Done
[01:03] <macd> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:03] <macd> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[01:04] <macd> Need to get 0B of archives.
[01:04] <Gnea> !paste | macd
[01:04] <macd> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[01:04] <ubotu> macd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <macd> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[01:04] <aszwet1> hey i need some help with my logitech quickcam deluxe for notebooks
[01:04] <macd> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:04] <adamonline46> ifireball: I'm pinging google.  Ahh, YES, you're the man!  I didn't know I still had a firewall enabled on this old thing... Sheesh... Shoulda just started with a fresh install... hehheh :)  Well, thank you!
[01:04] <macd>  mtop
[01:04] <trollboy> Is there a setting for this I'm missing?
[01:04] <macd> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:04] <macd> ohh!
[01:04] <aszwet1> hey i need some help with my logitech quickcam deluxe for notebooks
[01:04] <trollboy> why are you still flooding?
[01:04] <macd> sorry bout that!
[01:04] <macd> I pasted the wrong thing
[01:04] <trollboy> you shouldn't paste at all
[01:04] <trollboy> unless its 1 line
[01:04] <trollboy> anyways
[01:04] <macd> this is what I wanted to paste: http://pastie.caboo.se/132598
[01:04] <trollboy> anyone know how to disable autologout in 7.01?
[01:05] <macd> it was a simple copy/paste mistake, give me a break.
[01:05] <ifireball> adamonline46: well, you should have a firewall, but set it up right...
[01:05] <aszwet1> anybody have any help with spca5xx?
[01:05] <Gnea> there's an autologout?
[01:05] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  so, you are trying to trigger a reconfig of X?
[01:05] <dirkg3nt1y>  /set -i tb
[01:05] <LimCore> what does it return by default:        cat /proc/sys/dev/hpet/max-user-freq       ?   (its timer freq setting)
[01:05] <trollboy> GnarlyBob, I hope so
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: Yes
[01:05] <trollboy> or my ubuntu is hosed
[01:05] <macd> aszwet1, install the drivers via synaptic, then it will be called /dev/video0 (assuming you have no video capture cards)
[01:05] <tritium> trollboy: there is no autologout
[01:05] <adamonline46> ifireball: Hehheh, that was next... This is gonna be a fileserver, and I only want 2 computers to access it...
[01:06] <trollboy> tritium, then any ideas why its doing this?
[01:06] <raichlea> can anyone tell me how to get firefox to use the icedtea-java7 plugin?  It's currently using libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
[01:06] <Gnea> trollboy: try creating another account and logging in with that and see if it does the same thing again
[01:06] <trollboy> ko Gnea
[01:06] <tritium> trollboy: what exactly is happening?
[01:06] <aszwet1> macd they have it in synaptic?
[01:06] <macd> aszwet1, yes
[01:06] <aszwet1> macd.  damnit.
[01:06] <trollboy> I lock my desktop
[01:06] <trollboy> I wonder away
[01:06] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  I've done that before after I selected a resolution and refresh rate that screwed me - had to use the command line to do it
[01:06] <trollboy> I come back, and I'm logged out.
[01:06] <Neskaya> *wander, trollboy.
[01:06] <macd> !info spca5xx-source
[01:06] <ubotu> spca5xx-source: source for the spca5xx driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060501-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 192 kB, installed size 256 kB
[01:06] <aszwet1> macd. lol probably should've checked that first.
[01:07] <trollboy> it doesn't restart though
[01:07] <trollboy> sorry Neskaya
[01:07] <bieb> I am having problems with setting up a dialup modem on a thinkpad T30 running ubuntu 7.10
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: YEp, that is how to get it back... if needed set it to vesa mode 1024 max res to get back backic functionality
[01:07] <anton__> Hey, I am connected to the internet, and I have connected a network cable from my second NIC to a friends computer, but he can't get internet. Is there a setting in ubuntu which allows me to share the internet? :P Like a router
[01:07] <bieb> I have used pppconfig, run pon and it doesnt do anything
[01:07] <aszwet1> macd wow.  i installed a bunch of junk trying to follow some how-tos... i have no clue how to remove some of that stuff... think it'll matter?
[01:07] <bieb> is there a way to determine the port of the modem?
[01:08] <ifireball> adamonline46: doable, no doubt. good luck!
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bieb: Sounds like another winmodem.softmodem not a true hardware modem.  those all just work
[01:08]  * adamonline46 bows
[01:08] <macd> aszwet1, hopefully you took notes.
[01:08] <anton__> anyone?
[01:08] <trollboy> tritium, thoughts?
[01:08] <wols> bieb: does lspci show your modem in any way?
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup > bieb May help
[01:09] <bieb> wols let me check
[01:09] <tritium> trollboy: nope, that's not normal
[01:09] <macd> bieb, do you have the lucent or JCom modem (you can tell by issuing 'lspci' in a terminal)
[01:09] <trollboy> yay
[01:09] <trollboy> ok thanks tritium
[01:09] <aszwet1> macd.  your hope is in the wrong place :)
[01:09] <aszwet1> guess we'll see huh?
[01:09] <macd> aszwet1, for sure
[01:10] <aszwet1> macd i have all my important files backed up on my external hdd... so it won't matter that much :)
[01:10] <Gnea> anton__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[01:10] <macd> aszwet1, and come to think of it, I just plugged my logitech quickcam in, and it worked with camorama
[01:10] <bieb> wols the modem is Intel Corp, 82801ca/cam ac'97
[01:10] <macd> bieb, thats your sound device.
[01:10] <Svish> how can I adjust "gzip -r somedir" to leave the original files?
[01:11] <korosora> question: why is java so popular?
[01:11] <aszwet1> macd i installed camorama but it's saying that could not connect to video device
[01:11] <Gnea> korosora: cross-platform
[01:11] <anton__> Gnea: ip: Unknown host
[01:11] <anton__> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[01:11] <aszwet1> macd, that installation didn't fix it...
[01:11] <macd> aszwet1, does 'lsusb' show your camera?
[01:11] <bieb> macd that is the modem line in lspci
[01:11] <korosora> hmm i see.
[01:11] <Gnea> anton__: you'll... need to read it a bit more first
[01:11] <aszwet1> macd, yes
[01:12] <anton__> Gnea: Be specific, please.
[01:12] <Delvien> anyone know what i2c-sys
[01:12] <Delvien> is
[01:12] <aszwet1> macd, yes
[01:12] <silasrm> good night help me about vpn with ipsec
[01:12] <Gnea> anton__: there's a webpage, it tells you what to do. you need to read through the whole thing. for some reason, you need to be at a root prompt and not use sudo with every command
[01:12] <bieb> macd: it gives the same line for sound and modem in lspci
[01:12] <anton__> Ok. How to open a root terminal?
[01:12] <macd> aszwet1, what does "lsmod | grep gspca" say?
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> bieb: that is a winmodem/linmodem
[01:13] <Gnea> anton__: sudo su
[01:13] <sunogbaga> Svish: -c
[01:13] <tritium> Gnea, anton__: no, sudo -i
[01:13] <tritium> do not use sudo su
[01:13] <anton__> aha
[01:13] <Gnea> tritium: sudo su  gives me a root prompt and presents no problems.
[01:13] <adamonline46> !e17
[01:13] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[01:13] <aszwet1> videodev               29312  3 gspca,uvcvideo
[01:13] <aszwet1> usbcore               138632  10 gspca,usb_storage,libusual,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[01:13] <tritium> Gnea: sudo -i is preferred
[01:13] <Gnea> tritium: because?
[01:13] <aszwet1> oops
[01:14] <macd> aszwet1, ok, do "sudo modprobe gspca" then try camorama again
[01:14] <anton__> Gnea, Tritium: Still same thing..."ip: unknown host"
[01:14] <tritium> Gnea: because the entire point of using sudo is to avoid use of su
[01:14] <aszwet1> macd nope
[01:14] <anton__> oh. sorry, read it better now
[01:14] <anton__> Which IP should I use?
[01:15] <Gnea> tritium: i see what you mean... ok
[01:15] <Svish> how can I make a ".bat"-file in ubuntu?
[01:15] <Gnea> anton__: basically you need to create your own - do you know anything about subnetting or networking at all?
[01:15] <drgeb> how do i copy a complete configuration fro desktop of one user to another if I am using gnome and compiz fusion ?
[01:15] <Armymen> somebody know a good linux that can be better than Windows home Server ?? ; )
[01:15] <Gnea> Svish: for use in wine or dosemu?
[01:15] <Gnea> Armymen: ubuntu server
[01:16] <bieb> jack_sparrow when I installed ubuntu 7.10 it also installed a "restricted driver" if I look at that it says Software Modem Driver, and in use is checked
[01:16] <macd> aszwet1, and it does show in "lsusb" right?
[01:16] <bieb> oops.. "Enabled" is checked
[01:16] <LjL> Svish: if i understand you correctly, you want to make a shell script. start the file with #!/bin/sh, put the commands you want in it, and make it executable with "chmod +x filename"
[01:16] <Gnea> Armymen: about the only thing that you won't get an ease of use out of ubuntu server is the whole AD thing - although it would appear that that is subject to change somewhat soon
[01:16] <tritium> bieb: it doesn't install that without first asking you
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium: agreed
[01:17] <bieb> right.. and I accepted the install
[01:17] <Armymen> ok nice ; )
[01:17] <Demonho-br> Hello, a friend of mine wanted to connect on the vpn of his work, he has all information needed such as key user server information like gatway and other things too.. he tried to config ipsec.conf kvpnc . pptp  but nothing worked. could someone try to explain to me how to make it working ? please
[01:17] <aszwet1> Bus 004 Device 012: ID 046d:09c1 Logitech, Inc.
[01:17] <Armymen> i like that they work on Ubuntu home server
[01:17] <Armymen> but dont look to go very fast :(
[01:17] <aszwet1> gspca                 680528  0
[01:17] <aszwet1> videodev               29312  2 gspca,uvcvideo
[01:17] <aszwet1> usbcore               138632  10 gspca,usb_storage,libusual,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[01:17] <Gnea> well yeah, it requires a GUI in windows lol
[01:17] <aszwet1> is what that one said
[01:17] <macd> aszwet1, lets see if that particular chipset is supported, I remember reading 1 or 2 werentr
[01:17] <tritium> aszwet1: please don't paste
[01:17] <aszwet1> tritium sorry
[01:18] <macd> aszwet1, did you reboot?
[01:19] <aszwet1> macd, no i didn't should i?
[01:19] <macd> review http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4023950 that first
[01:19] <macd> @ aszwet1
[01:19] <macd> aszwet1, just the logitech portion, they mention gspca-source, over spcaxx-source
[01:19] <aszwet1> ok macd i'll give it a try
[01:19] <anton__> Hm? Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:20] <kris_> hello
[01:20] <macd> !info apt-proxy
[01:20] <ubotu> apt-proxy: Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.36ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 83 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:20] <anton__> Gnea: Nope.
[01:21] <bieb> jack_sparrow tritium  what should I check next since the restricted drivers are installed?
[01:21] <Svish> LjL: Thank you, will try that :)
[01:21] <kris_> sweet
[01:21] <earthian> Hello, after playing a little bit with recording on my Toshiba L30 10Y laptop thing go wrong with ESD. Any idea how to find the cause?
[01:21] <aszwet1> macd,  will that work with webcam chats and all that too?? or just skype?
[01:21] <Svish> how can I prevent gzip and gunzip from deleting the orignal file???
[01:21] <macd> aszwet1, anything, it makes it a video device
[01:21] <javialquim> kris.... you triangulating wort hog
[01:22] <macd> aszwet1, I have a feeling you just dont have camorama setup for /dev/video0 though, since everything else looks pretty kosher.
[01:22] <javialquim> Kris...  Vista Lover
[01:22] <Tulenian> irc.synirc.net
[01:22] <Tulenian> whoops
[01:22] <javialquim> Kris loves MS Windows Vista
[01:22] <aszwet1> macd, so then with adding that line to rc.local and a reboot will fix that?
[01:22] <kris_> is there a way to boot this javialquim KID
[01:23] <macd> aszwet1, just do what it says, reboot and then we'll see.
[01:23] <aszwet1> ok brb :)
[01:23] <LjL> there is indeed. pity it's the same IP as you
[01:23] <tritium> bieb: sorry, I'm not following your disussion
[01:23] <WindowSmasher> Ello ello!
[01:24] <xavier_> hello
[01:24] <xavier_> help me plz
[01:24] <bieb> tritium I ran sudo wvdialconf.. it says found modem /dev/ttySL0
[01:24] <blind> hey guys, having some problems. Installed a Linksys wireless card in a dapper machine, modprobe'd rt2500 and set up the network settings. wasn't working properly, so i rebooted, and now it stops at "configuring network interfaces" on boot... help?
[01:24] <WindowSmasher> Inquiring minds would like to know: The hard drive parking issue with Ubuntu.  What if the command to disable HD power management doesn't stop it?
[01:24] <earthian> Can somebody help me debug/fix problem with sound system (including esd)
[01:24] <macd> blind, have you let it sit for 15 minutes?
[01:25] <blind> macd: it's been sitting for at least 20
[01:25] <pedrotmartinez> I have been searching and I cannot find the solution to my problem
[01:25] <macd> blind, reboot it, choose the failsafe kernel
[01:25] <adamonline46> How do I install an X server?
[01:25] <sigra> +anyone heard of easy ubuntu..if so what do you think?
[01:25] <macd> adamonline46, only the x server, or do you want a window manager as well?
[01:25] <pedrotmartinez> my wireless card is PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[01:25] <WindowSmasher> !hdd
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <pedrotmartinez> I have ubuntu gutsy
[01:26] <adamonline46> macd: I just installed enlightenment, the WM, apparently I don't have an X server isntalled 8)  So yeah, just the server...
[01:26] <pedrotmartinez> and I have the restricted package installed and the modules loaded
[01:26] <X-nor> sigra: I doubt it could be easier than Ubuntu, and it's probably unsupported
[01:26] <wols> i3945
[01:26] <blind> macd: recovery mode?
[01:26] <pedrotmartinez> but it doesnt appear on the network-manager
[01:26] <pedrotmartinez> any ideas?
[01:26] <macd> adamonline46, and you installed e17 from apt? it would automatically install X as well.
[01:26] <Pir8> Anyone ever come across this, sometimes within linux (Ubuntu/Mint in my case) firefox can play youtube and other videos with sound, other times no sound.
[01:26] <macd> Pir8, its a known flash issue.
[01:27] <Pir8> aaaah ok
[01:27] <Pir8> so it'
[01:27] <Pir8> so it isn't just me then.
[01:27] <sigra> easy ubuntu runs on ubuntu..its for newbie ubuntu users..it does everthing for you in a gui..like install the media wmv and avi..and setup nvidia or ati and so on..and addes mtscore and alot more.
[01:27] <sonja> how do i gain access to write in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols ?
[01:27] <mrdinkles> For the Preference > Sessions > Visual > Edit Startup Program > Command-- What should this command be set at?
[01:27] <X-nor> sigra: oh
[01:27] <tritium> sigra: I'd advise against it.  Installing the packages you need is nearly as easy.
[01:27] <wols> macd: why would it?
[01:27] <macd> Pir8, the fixed flash is out, but it has a small error on install, should be fixed soon enough, if your on gutsy, for now you can manually install the hardy package
[01:27] <Pir8> macd, interesting....thanks for sharing that I always thought it had something to do with my installation
[01:27] <wols> adamonline46: install xorg
[01:27] <tritium> sigra: ubuntu-restricted-extras goes a long way to installing codecs, etc.
[01:27] <Gnea> anton__: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[01:27] <macd> wols Im pretty sure its a pre-req.
[01:27] <adamonline46> macd: I couldn't find E17 package, it was called 'enlightenment'.  That's what I would have figured, too, but when I type 'startx' I get a command not found error, and when I type 'enlightenent' I get an 'X erver not running' error...
[01:27] <sigra> my extra's codec was greyed out.
[01:27] <Pir8> macd I'm using Mint, which I think is built on gutsy...Shall investigate that. thanks mate.
[01:28] <naxa> hi
[01:28] <sigra> I was unable to install them..but easy ubuntu..pointed me to synaptic package to install alternative
[01:28] <sigra> if not for easy ubuntu to show me..I had hunt the info ..easy ubuntu hunts info and resolves it in newbie fashion
[01:28] <naxa> can someone give me a hint where can i ask something about a differential equtation right now?
[01:28] <wols> macd: just cause you install a WM doesn't mean you'd want a X server
[01:28] <macd> wols, maybe
[01:28] <LjL> sigra: or one could just ask here.
[01:29] <sigra> Yes this very nice place LjL but I didnt know about this chat for days when first getting ubuntu
[01:29] <wols> !easyubuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:29] <blind> macd: alright, booted recovery mode, and it's stuck on configuring network interfaces again.... just let it sit?
[01:29] <Gnea> anton__: if you need help figuring out what to put in for the ip range attributes, try this calculator: http://jodies.de/ipcalc
[01:29] <sigra> exactly ubotu
[01:29] <Demonho-br> nobody knows about the vpn ?
[01:29] <macd> blind, or hit enter, or crtl+c
[01:29] <Demonho-br> =\
[01:29] <tritium> sigra: see the "use at your own risk" part of that statement
[01:30] <Gnea> "use at your own risk"
[01:30] <Demonho-br> "use at your owon risk"
[01:30] <sigra> well alot when new is at your own risk.
[01:30] <Gnea> it makes it "easy" to do what, exactly? :)
[01:30] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: can you paste the output of iwconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the link for your pastebin back here?
[01:30] <macd> Gnea, hose apt.
[01:30] <naxa> wols: i checked my ubuntu, no noacpi and anything helped. i didn't check yet what if i don't start X
[01:30] <adamonline46> wols: Installing xserver-xorg right now, thank you :)
[01:30] <wols> sigra: no. ubuntu is supported here. easyubuntu no so
[01:30] <adamonline46> macd: Thank you, too
[01:30] <anton__> Gnea: I am a newbie!
[01:30] <tritium> sigra: we're advising you against it, obviously.  Seek help here instead.
[01:30] <wols> adamonline46: install xorg
[01:30] <Gnea> macd: you have won the ubuntu new year prize award!
[01:30] <naxa> wols: it's freezing with or without noacpi
[01:30] <Demonho-br> anton__, im too
[01:30] <Gnea> anton__: exactly, that calculator will help :)
[01:31] <adamonline46> wols: I tried that, it couldn't find package xorg...
[01:31] <anton__> Hm
[01:31] <anton__> Nope, but thanks anyway...
[01:31] <Gnea> hrm
[01:31] <sigra> well I am not advising to use easy ubuntu..I am asking about people that has used it and what they think..(ones that have used it)
[01:31] <mrdinkles>  For the Preference > Sessions > Visual > Edit Startup Program > Command-- What should this command be set at
[01:31] <blind> macd: okay, hit ctrl+c to skip it, it got through some things, and then it said it was using old /proc/something/something (it was only there for a few seconds) and to update old driver..
[01:31] <remu> hello everyone, ive got a windows computer that houses all of my files for the home network, its running windows xp, when i watch videos from it on my laptop while im in windows xp, it works great, no stutter, no nothing, however, when i run ubuntu on the same laptop and try to watch the videos, they stutter, sometimes freeze for a few seconds (15-30) and then play again
[01:31] <wols> sigra: ask in #easyubuntu as the name implies and don't take polls
[01:31] <macd> sigra, well its unsupported, can break things, and we dont recommend it
[01:31] <remu> does anyone know how i can fix that?
[01:31] <aszwet1> macd no luck sir
[01:31] <sigra> um I not taking polls.  I am learning about ubuntu?
[01:32] <sigra> and thanks. I didnt know there was a chatchannel for easy ubuntu
[01:32] <sigra> I check it out
[01:32] <Gnea> anton__: well, it's a bit of a read, but... http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/
[01:32] <tritium> sigra: asking people about it and what they think is, by definition, taking a poll
[01:32] <macd> aszwet1, not sure what to tell you really, its very possible something you did earlier is conflicting and causing it not to work
[01:32] <adamonline46> wols: Are you saying xserver-xorg is wrong?
[01:32] <Gnea> anton__: anything you could possibly need to know about any kind of networking with linux is there
[01:32] <sigra> well there is no shortage of judgement in ones self opinion in here.  Have nice day:)
[01:32] <aszwet1> how can i check that kind of stuff macd?
[01:33] <lleonard> I have a widescreen display and the usplash image is displaying out of proportion.  I tried changing the resolution in /etc/usplash.conf to 1680 x 1050 and regenerated the ramfs image, but it looks the same.  Is it not possible for usplash to use 1680 x 1050 resolution?
[01:33] <aszwet1> and can you link me to that one website again?
[01:33] <macd> aszwet1, by undoing everything you did earlier
[01:33] <Gnea> anton__: chapter 2 should be what you're currently after
[01:33] <Pir8> ok so all of a sudden my audio is borked
[01:33] <naxa> is there a patch for gtk's file open window to display files as icons (like in nautilus)? if no, where exactly can i ask for it? it's a very needed feature... xp had it and now vista has much more than this... ubuntu cannot lack anymore
[01:33] <wols> adamonline46: not sure if it pulls all needed dependencies
[01:33] <macd> @aszwet1:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4023950
[01:33] <Pir8> it's not just firefox....amarok nor pidgin are responding to any audio.
[01:33] <aszwet1> thanks i'll start undoing everything :)
[01:33] <pedrotmartinez> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49753/
[01:33] <pedrotmartinez> here is the output
[01:34] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, looking
[01:34] <kitche> naxa: huh gtk is just a toolkit really
[01:34] <Gnea> Pir8: sounds like you have a half-duplex soundcard and a rogue process still has control of it. try this:  sudo lsof | grep dsp
[01:34] <pedrotmartinez> ok, thanks robdig
[01:34] <pedrotmartinez> I will be eternally glad if I can solve this
[01:34] <X-nor> kitche: naxa: well, what toolkit do most gtk apps use for file chooser?
[01:34] <Pir8> Gnea,  hmmmm how do I know it is a half-duplex soundcard ?
[01:35] <naxa> kitche: erm, ok, what i want is an icon view for "file open" window. I cannot select the right pictures from 1000+ pictures without seeing them... where could i ask for this feature?
[01:35] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm, kinda sparse. what is the output from lspci | grep -i network
[01:35] <X-nor> kitche: naxa: KDE with its kioslaves is a lot more powerful than most gtk solutions, at any rate
[01:35] <blind> macd: well, i tried logging into gdm and after i entered the username/password, it just brought me to a blank brown screen (with a pointer... but nothing else is loading)
[01:35] <Gnea> Pir8: because you can only run one sound app at a time. full duplex would allow multiple sound programs to run simultanously.
[01:35] <remu> anyone know how to fix the samba issue? my windows box is hosting the files, im trying to access them from my ubuntu machine, the video stutters and lags when i play it, however it does not do that when i a play the files through windows, anyone?
[01:35] <kitche> X-nor: good to know what I knew already
[01:35] <Pir8> I see
[01:35] <pedrotmartinez> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49754/
[01:35] <pedrotmartinez> this is
[01:35] <naxa> X-nor: it is right, but i don't really like KDE in other ways...
[01:36] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, looking
[01:36] <macd> blind, yeah, thats expected, you need to fix your networking issue, then reboot in normal mode.
[01:36] <Pir8> well I have been able to run pidgin and amarok together in the past and also watch movies....all at once in some cases.
[01:36] <kompute1> Does anyone use a TTS application to have the computer read text???
[01:36] <blind> how do i fix my networking issue if i can't log in?
[01:36] <Pir8> Gnea, that command returned nothing
[01:36] <zloog> #gnome
[01:36] <naxa> X-nor: i tryed it a feveral times, but i always go back to gnome becouse i just can't get used to kde... it's frustrating for me, even if i learn how to do
[01:36] <kompute1> I don't know how to open Ocra
[01:36] <macd> blind, at console, hitting crtl+alt+f3
[01:36] <naxa> things
[01:36] <Gnea> Pir8: try this one: sudo lsof | grep libasound
[01:37] <Pir8> aaah yes bunch of stuff shows up for that one
[01:37] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, the system is recognizing it, so that is good
[01:37] <pedrotmartinez> yes
[01:37] <Gnea> Pir8: could be esd or something else software that's allowing it
[01:37] <blind> macd: ctrl+alt+f3 (as well as all the other ttys) doesn't give me a login.
[01:37] <pedrotmartinez> and that makes me crazy
[01:37] <pedrotmartinez> what can I do?
[01:37] <macd> blind, hitting enter doesnt bring one up?
[01:37] <anton__> I don't wanna have to configure a shitload of stuff....we had it working a couple of weeks ago, and now it's f*cked...
[01:37] <anton__> why?
[01:37] <Pir8> So how does one get out of this mess (without rebooting and or logging out) :)
[01:37] <tritium> anton__: watch the language, please
[01:38] <blind> macd: nope.
[01:38] <kompute1> Does anyone use a TTS application to have the computer read text??? I don't know how to open Ocra, I tried installing Ksayit and KTTSmgr, but none of them seem to work. Does anyone have experince with Text-to-Speech?
[01:38] <anton__> *nod*
[01:38] <macd> blind, I dunno then :/
[01:38] <macd> blind, I have a feeling one of us is missing some detail though
[01:38] <Gnea> anton__: don't know, but if you want to do any kind of networking, then it's something you'll need to learn.
[01:38] <anton__> Gnea: Like the simplest thing ever, setting up a LAN...
[01:39] <blind> It's quite possible. I never had this much trouble with *my* dapper installation and the same card.
[01:39] <anton__> what are the advantages of linux when you can't even get simple things to work?
[01:39] <macd> blind, do you have other kernel versions to boot, or just one?
[01:39] <Gnea> anton__: it is for many of us... but then we've already been through the swamp that it takes to learn it :)
[01:39] <blind> no, i've got some others, i think.
[01:39] <X-nor> naxa: the problem is the aversion to being modular, most software suffers from that
[01:39] <zloog> does anyone know what --gtk-debug actually does?
[01:39] <anton__> I tried letting firestarter configure it for me, but it says that eth1 wasn't ready.
[01:40] <kazol> Do you guys know of any more GUI IRC clients (except konversation, xchat, irssi) with DCC support?
[01:40] <Gnea> anton__: well the way i see it, you've got 2 choices: buckle down and read and figure it out, or sit here and cry about how unfair life is.
[01:40] <X-nor> naxa: you can't just pop in another file manager - you MUST use what the author chose.. that kind of thing
[01:40] <naxa> X-nor: i'm not sure what is this meaning becouse of my lacking english knowledge but is there a(n even temporary) solution? :)
[01:40] <quaal> anyone use a gamepad in ubuntu
[01:40] <naxa> X-nor: too bad...
[01:40] <Gnea> quaal: yes
[01:40] <kitche> x-nor: well techinally you can use another file manager if you want to
[01:40] <anton__> Gnea: Nah, I'll get some down-to-earth linux ppl to help.
[01:40] <naxa> X-nor: nautilus has icon view... maybe it can be patched?
[01:40] <quaal> Gnea, which
[01:40] <X-nor> naxa: i might be able to find something. but don't ever count on a binary path
[01:40] <Pir8> hah found it
[01:41] <B_166-ER-X> !trackerd
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trackerd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <Pir8> Gnea believe it or not I had two torrent downloads.....killed those and sound is back again!
[01:41] <Gnea> anton__: good luck with that.
[01:41] <Pir8> go figure.
[01:41] <B_166-ER-X> !trackerdIsEatingMyCpuAlive
[01:41] <naxa> X-nor: i love to do make install
[01:41] <Gnea> Pir8: lol weird
[01:41] <otto_> is there a file in ubuntu similar to /etc/ttys for freebsd?
[01:41] <X-nor> naxa: err, binary patch. you will have to rebuild GTK, probably edit it
[01:41] <macd> naxa, thats the beauty of opensource, patch it, submit, watch it become.
[01:41] <anton__> Gnea: Yeah, I know...most of them are up in the clouds, thinking great stuff about themselves...anyway, too ot. bye.
[01:41] <naxa> macd: :)
[01:41] <metropinko> Hey all, I just bought a refurbed comp with 7.04.  I'm trying to use the update manager and I don't know what my admin password is
[01:41] <kitche> B_166-ER-X: just disable trackerd if you don't want to use it
[01:41] <kompute1> Does anyone use a TTS application to have the computer read text??? I don't know how to open Ocra, I tried installing Ksayit and KTTSmgr, but none of them seem to work. Does anyone have experince with Text-to-Speech?
[01:42] <lleonard> torrent downloading killed sound?  wow strange!  what torrent client (just curious)
[01:42] <otto_> MetaBot, use your password
[01:42] <B_166-ER-X> kitche 'how'?
[01:42] <naxa> X-nor: if you could give me a hint i would be happy to rebuild...
[01:42] <Pir8> Gnea there were two odd listing in the "sudo lsof | grep libasound" which were processes running as /usr/bin/ something....seemed odd
[01:42] <kitche> metropinko: it's what your userpassword is
[01:42] <Gnea> Pir8: yeah, lsof rocks for finding processes that aren't working right :)
[01:42] <LjL> kompute1, the only decent TTS engine there is around is Festival, i bet all those applications you've tried need it installed. what language do you need it for?
[01:42] <Pir8> Gnea thanks for your help though! much appreciated.
[01:42] <X-nor> naxa: I'm not sure what, I generally don't do that kind of stuff. and many people are VERY averse and hostile so watch where you ask
[01:42] <Gnea> Pir8: you're welcome, and happy new years
[01:43] <otto_> anyone know how I could add another terminal with a custom getty script?
[01:43] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm, kinda sparse. what is the output from grep -i eth[01] /var/log/syslog
[01:43] <Pir8> Gnea you too
[01:43] <X-nor> naxa: especially the ones who wrote the file open dialog
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> robdig
[01:43] <metropinko> i tried that, but there kitche, but there seems to be another admin username set up on here
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> I think I have done a very big mistake
[01:43] <naxa> X-nor: you could be right...
[01:43] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: what is that?
[01:43] <naxa> X-nor: but it is also true, that many will turn from linux becouse of that...
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> I have seen I hadn't installed linux-restricted-modules
[01:43] <X-nor> naxa: you will have to change the GtkFileChooser class probably
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> it  could be the reason
[01:43] <naxa> X-nor: vista comes with more eye-candy icon viewing what is also useful
[01:44] <naxa> X-nor: it's okay
[01:44] <hvgotcodes> hey my super key is not working in awesome wm
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> after installed it, I think I have to reboot
[01:44] <kompute1> LjL, hey again, I need it in english, KTTS was aking me to locate Festival, but I didn't know where to point it and /usr/bin/festival dd not work
[01:44] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: yes, you need to do that. I have the same card, and it started right up with restricted driver
[01:44] <Quentin> Hey there :)
[01:44] <naxa> X-nor: i just don't know what should i add to it
[01:44] <tritium> pedrotmartinez: use the restricted manager
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> I am going to reboot
[01:44] <Shpook> Hello everyone. Is there a way to install 32-bit packages on a 64-bit system? I installed PulseAudio, and in order for Firefox and Flash to output sound to PulseAudio, I have to install a specific package. Are there any generic 32-bit wrappers?
[01:44] <metropinko> i get this message: The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> and see if it works
[01:44] <naxa> X-nor: and where to get the source :D (for ubuntu, by the way i think all is the same)
[01:44] <Quentin> Please, is there anyone in here who a programm which could draw a graphic representation of  a postgres database ?
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> I will be back
[01:45] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: good luck
[01:45] <pedrotmartinez> thanks :)
[01:45] <LjL> kompute1: ok, start by doing « echo "This is a test." | festival --tts » to see if festival itself works
[01:45] <kitche> B_166-ER-X: See System -> Preferences -> Indexing Preferences and Disable indexing/watching. that will do what you want
[01:45] <X-nor> naxa: yes, it's the same for everything, whether you wrote your own distro or have apt. tarballs, cvs, svn, etc
[01:45] <naxa> um, yeah.. i guess
[01:45] <X-nor> naxa: make sure it builds before you do any patching :P
[01:46] <Quentin> please, nobody heard about something like that ?
[01:46] <B_166-ER-X> kitche do i have to reboot or something ?  cause i did this and i see no difference
[01:46] <naxa> X-nor: good idea :D
[01:46] <hvgotcodes> can anyone help me get my super key working?
[01:46] <macd> Quentin, nothing opensource, only some commercial applications.
[01:46] <naxa> X-nor: will you help me further or it's my task from now?
[01:46] <X-nor> naxa: likely someone else has done something regarding gtkfilechooser
[01:46] <Quentin> ok thank you macd
[01:46] <kompute1> LjL BRB, downloading it
[01:46] <BlaenkDenum> can someone PLEASE help me out here, I'm trying to achieve the opposite effect of the -S flag on the zip command (-S INCLUDES hidden files and folders, I want to exclude them)
[01:46] <macd> Quentin, if you want a web based management you can try phppgsqladmin
[01:46] <X-nor> naxa: sense the extent of my code is Java and (now) Ruby
[01:47] <X-nor> naxa: *since
[01:47] <kitche> B_166-ER-X: check You can disable it in ->System ->Preferences ->Sessions. as well since it might be in there on bootup it will start
[01:47] <phosphoricx> This is probably a simple question, somehow I enabled a virtual desktop switcher to appear each time my mouse reaches the edge of my screen, how do I turn it off?
[01:47] <silvio> is the ubuntu 7.10 dekstop install cd, a live cd?
[01:47] <phosphoricx> I'm using Gutsy
[01:47] <wols> silvio: yes
[01:47] <Shpook> X-nor: How was it learning Ruby? I'm starting to read and learn it now, and it seems simple enough, while still powerful.
[01:47] <phosphoricx> installed, not liveCD
[01:47] <quaal> Gnea, which gamepad
[01:47] <silvio> wols; thankyou.
[01:47] <LjL> kompute1: you'll also need a voice besides the "festival" package itself. get festvox-kallpc16k for male american english
[01:48] <naxa> X-nor: I know no programming language except basic pascal :D
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> it didn't work
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> so we have to continue looking...
[01:48] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: did you go to system->administration->restricted drivers manager?
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> yes
[01:48] <naxa> X-nor: but no problem, i can do things based on other people's simple scripts. much of simple scripts altogether will give an ugly but working program...
[01:48] <X-nor> naxa: yeah, not like I could help
[01:48] <Shpook> Is there a way to install 32-bit packages in a 64-bit system?
[01:48] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: and was the intel driver enabled?
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> it that place I have the package "in use"
[01:49] <pedrotmartinez> yes, it is
[01:49] <wols> Shpook: chroot
[01:49] <naxa> X-nor: ok... maybe i go and check nautilus's source, too
[01:49] <macd> Shpook, yes. chroot
[01:49] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm
[01:49] <Dr_willis_> Shpook,  theres a way you can do a 32bit chroot.. good luck. :)
[01:49] <metropinko> Can anyone help me locate my admin username and password (7.04)?
[01:49] <X-nor> naxa: alternatively changing the file chooser might be pointless. just load via nautilus
[01:49] <macd> !chroot
[01:49] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[01:49] <jdolan_> heh, i hope i don't need a chroot also.
[01:49] <Shpook> Thanks everyone, that's all the guidance I need. Much Appreciated!
[01:49] <wols> metropinko: there is only the password for your user, not "admin password"
[01:49] <Dr_willis_> metropinko,  use live cd, look in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[01:49] <jdolan_> i just installed ubuntu amd64 on my first ever 64 bit box.
[01:49] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: is iwconfig showing any wireless cards now?
[01:49] <Willabee> is there a shockwave for linux/
[01:50] <X-nor> Willabee: no, but check out WINE
[01:50] <jdolan_> and lo and behold binary games don't want to run, flash doesn't work, ..
[01:50] <pedrotmartinez> no
[01:50] <Willabee> ok
[01:50] <pedrotmartinez> no wireless extensions
[01:50] <macd> jdolan_, surprise surprise.
[01:50] <kompute1> LjL what are the other voices I can install and do i gut apt-get install them?
[01:50] <macd> jdolan_, unless you crave 64bit, just run 32bit.
[01:50] <metropinko> i'm using that password when I try to use the update manager, but I get this message: The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[01:50] <naxa> X-nor: i want no workaround. I want file chooser to be ok forever.
[01:50] <X-nor> at least Ubuntu is nice and tells you tainted drivers
[01:51] <naxa> X-nor: i myself find it almost unbeliveable that it's not done already
[01:51] <X-nor> naxa: always would be a workaround though. patch it yourself and you must update for eternity
[01:51]  * macd knows the hardy 64bit flash works on gutsy.
[01:51] <CaBlGuY> !DVD
[01:51] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:51] <LjL> kompute1: yes, of course, both festival and the voices can be obtained with apt-get or Synaptic. do an « apt-cache search festival » to list all the voices, or « apt-cache search festival english » for just the english ones
[01:51] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: do you have both a wireless card and a wired connection?
[01:51] <naxa> X-nor: I'm sorry to say that but sometimes linux's programmers are just plain stupid when it comes to the "human-friendly" thing
[01:51] <Willabee> so following this tutorial should work right
[01:51] <Willabee> http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/12/installing-wine-in-gutsy-gibbon.html
[01:51] <pedrotmartinez> I dont know the difference...
[01:52] <naxa> X-nor: no problem since I would suggest the patch to be added then :D
[01:52] <silvio> does the ubuntu 7.10 desktop install/live cd include gcc?
[01:52] <tritium> silvio: no
[01:52] <naxa> X-nor: it would be easy to collect supporters, and someone would clean up the code
[01:52] <kitche> silvio: yes but it's missing the stuff it needs to compile
[01:52] <pedrotmartinez> I am sorry but I am spanish, and maybe my english is not fine sometimes
[01:52] <pedrotmartinez> I do my best...
[01:52] <X-nor> naxa: also, check out gconf-editor. something might be hidden there, as the babied down configuration pages suggest
[01:52] <tritium> silvio: if you want to build from source, install the "build-essential" meta-package
[01:53] <naxa> X-nor: I'll rember that, thanks
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> at this moment there is a wired connection in this room
[01:53] <Willabee> i speak spanish pretty well
[01:53] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: your iwconfig that you pasted earlier showed only two interfaces lo which is the loopback, and eth0. I'm curious if eth0 is your wireless card or if it is your normal ethernet card
[01:53] <naxa> X-nor: now i have to go, bye!
[01:53] <metropinko> when i enter my password for the update manager, i get this message: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '50331651' '--progress-str' 'Please wait, this can take some time.' '--finish-str' 'Update is complete' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmpWFq6tx' as user root.
[01:53] <metropinko> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[01:53] <metropinko> Anyone know what to do?
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> oh
[01:53] <silvio> ok, thanks tritium and kitche. :(
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> I think it is the ethernet one
[01:53] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: btw, you english is fine. there is a spanish channel if you want to seek help there, #ubuntu-es
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> the one I am connected right now
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> metropinko,  by default only the FIRST user you made has sudo rights. If you are trying to sudo as a differentuser. you might be getting that error.
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> I have done, but there was no lucky
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> because of that I came here
[01:54] <naxa> X-nor: thank you for talking!
[01:54] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, so iwconfig isn't seeing your wireless card at all.
[01:54] <metropinko> is there anyway to find out what that username and password is?
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> I think it doesn't
[01:54] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: does another interface show up if you type ifconfig?
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> lets see
[01:54] <CaBlGuY> !fakeroot
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <pedrotmartinez> no
[01:55] <pedrotmartinez> only eth0 and lo
[01:55] <soldats> !sudo
[01:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:55] <CaBlGuY> ummmmm  ok, I got some major issues goin on here...
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> metropinko,  look int he /etc/passwd file for the user with the id of 1000, hes normally the first user. as for the password.. No idea there. You can reset/set the password from a live cd
[01:55] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm
[01:55] <soldats> CaBlGuY, did you see
[01:55] <CaBlGuY> someone wanna help me out with this..    fakeroot dpkg-dev patch
[01:55] <tritium> metropinko: or, you can boot in to single-user (recovery) mode, and reset that user's passwd
[01:56] <Shpook> So with a chroot setup, will 32-bit packages automatically install into it? and will a 64-bit application outside the chroot be able to access a dependency inside?
[01:56] <CaBlGuY> soldats,   I'm sorry..  no..
[01:56] <soldats> CaBlGuY,  i may not know but just ask and if someone who knows about it will surely answer
[01:56]  * CaBlGuY directs soldats  attention to his former post...  /\
[01:57] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: can you paste the output of this command? dmesg | grep ipw3945
[01:57] <CaBlGuY> but actually, my main concern right now is I'm having issue with playing DVD's and I have all the correct codecs and apps installed..
[01:57] <phosphoricx> any ideas?
[01:57] <soldats> CaBlGuY, well you were looking at fake root so i assume you want su or sudo, but the people here are volunteers so just ask away and i hope someone can help you
[01:57] <earthbound01> Is it howdy
[01:57] <kitche> CaBlGuY: what is your issue with fakeroot?
[01:58] <tritium> pedrotmartinez: if it's more than 3 lines, please don't paste here.  use pastebin
[01:58] <Willabee> ok i have wine installed
[01:58] <soldats> CaBlGuY, 0o is it a restriced one
[01:58] <Willabee> so where should i download/install firefox and shockwave
[01:58] <naxa> X-nor: sorry one more question. Which package contains gnome source and how can i get it?
[01:58] <robdig> tritium: pedrotmartinez thanks, i meant to say pastebin...he's been using it already
[01:58] <Dr_willis_> Willabee,  firefox is in the repos.. 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[01:58] <tritium> robdig: :)
[01:58] <naxa> X-nor: and where will i find the files after getting the package? :D
[01:58] <metropinko> tri: when i reboot in safe mode, how do i go about changing the password
[01:58] <ewook> Question: is webmin a discontinued package with the 7.10 release?
[01:58] <cheuk> hi, can someone tell me how i can give a non-root user access to well-known ports?
[01:58] <CaBlGuY> kitche,   I dunno actually..  I was trying to enable libdvdread3  and that's the error I kept getting..
[01:59] <tritium> naxa: apt-get source <packagename>
[01:59] <soldats> naxa, run where firefox in a terminal
[01:59] <naxa> soldats: good hint...
[01:59] <pedrotmartinez> http://pastebin.com/m65c724f4
[01:59] <sonja> how do i share my printer?
[01:59] <pedrotmartinez> here it is
[01:59] <CaBlGuY> and I was using sudo when running the command..
[01:59] <metropinko> sorry, i've only been using ubuntu for two days and don't know very much about programming (obviously)
[01:59] <sonja> with my housemates?
[01:59] <c01100011> anyway to get shortcuts to webapps in Avant Window Navigator.
[01:59] <naxa> tritium: don't you know which package is "gnome" ? :D
[01:59] <tritium> naxa: there are several
[02:00] <pedrotmartinez> what is the package of the kernel sources?
[02:00] <tritium> naxa: gnome is not simply one package
[02:00] <Pir8> If I have a dvd (not as an image but) as raw files...how can I play it without burning to a dvd ?
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> gnome is a way of life. :)
[02:00] <ewook> naxa: apt-cache search gnome
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> Pir8,  vlc can play the files.
[02:00] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ah, there is a switch somewhere on your laptop that turns wireless card on and off, i think it is set to off right now, can you check?
[02:00] <Pir8> nice
[02:00] <Pir8> Thanks Dr_willis
[02:00] <Shpook> Anyone here have a PulseAudio sound server set up, especially 64-bit?
[02:00] <ewook> Pir8: vlc perhaps
[02:00] <pedrotmartinez> mmm
[02:01] <pedrotmartinez> let's check
[02:01] <naxa> tritium: i mean what packages i need to build a new gtkfilechooser
[02:01] <naxa> ewook: thanks for hint
[02:01] <CaBlGuY> kitche,   so, any ideas?
[02:01] <tritium> naxa: likely a gtk package, not a gnome package
[02:02] <naxa> tritium: how would you find out? what are the google keywords? :)
[02:02] <nixnoob> anyone running gutsy on a Asus C90s?
[02:02] <elrenardo> pir8 : try to mount it with mount and a dvd type ?
[02:02] <overridex> is there a log of when vino connections connect and disconnect anywhere?
[02:02] <naxa> tritium: google is my friend but i don't speak his language yet...
[02:02] <biggiboy> ho
[02:02] <biggiboy> hi
[02:02] <pedrotmartinez> mmm
[02:02] <Pir8> elrenardo, it isn't an image, simply the dvd contents extracted as VOB files and such.
[02:02] <ewook> !locale channel
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locale channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <CaBlGuY> kitche, ??
[02:02] <pedrotmartinez> I cannot find a switch
[02:02] <pedrotmartinez> but
[02:03] <CaBlGuY> or anyone that know anyhting about DVD playback..
[02:03] <kitche> CaBlGuY: never seen that error
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> Pir8,  ive watached vob files with vlc befor
[02:03] <tritium> naxa: one of the libgtk packages
[02:03] <soldats> naxa, goole the google syntax ie. define:boy will give definitions of the word boy
[02:03] <pedrotmartinez> in the F1, I can see the draw of that in other color
[02:03] <naxa> tritium: thank you! :) bye
[02:03] <pedrotmartinez> and in a position like the | is in the number one
[02:03] <Pir8> elrenardo, absolutely, vlc works...sweeet :) thanks  :)
[02:04] <Gnea> quaal: http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/p990.htm
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> but when I try it with Alt or Ctrl it doesnt happen anything
[02:04] <biggiboy> does anyone know if ATI 128  rage  all in wonder will work with wobbly windows
[02:04] <nixnoob> biggiboy, yes it will
[02:04] <biggiboy> its bugging me that it won't work
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> ey!!!!!
[02:04] <quaal> Gnea, ah ok
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> I did it!!!!
[02:04] <quaal> looks like the logitech dual action
[02:04] <foso> can anyone tell me what program the dock in this screenshot is? http://www.ubuntu-art.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/70611-2.jpg ?
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> robdig!
[02:04] <quaal> which i just tried
[02:04] <quaal> works fine
[02:04] <biggiboy> nixnoob how
[02:04] <elrenardo> credit back to Dr_willis_   ;)
[02:04] <nixnoob> biggiboy which driver are you using?
[02:04] <Gnea> quaal: it's pretty much pnp
[02:04] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hurray!
[02:04] <biggiboy> hang on i'll tell you
[02:05] <uzerzero> foso: that is AWN
[02:05] <Dr_willis_> Huh? :)
[02:05]  * Dr_willis_ wakes up
[02:05] <nixnoob> anyone running gutsy on a Asus C90s?
[02:05] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: so you may need to reboot with it on to get it going
[02:05] <foso> uzerzero thanks, i have tried that before without getting it to showup anywhere besides my apps tab
[02:05] <nixnoob> foso, its avant-window-navigator
[02:06] <pedrotmartinez> thank you very much!!
[02:06] <biggiboy> ati - ATI Mach8, Mach32,
[02:06] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: np
[02:06] <biggiboy> at generic one
[02:06] <X-nor> is there a preferred way to keeping development versions of certain libraries?
[02:06] <overridex> is there a log of when vino connections connect and disconnect anywhere?
[02:06] <uzerzero> fozo: do you have compiz-fusion installed? awn won't work without that
[02:06] <tritium> X-nor: keeping?  What do you mean?
[02:06] <biggiboy> is that bad nix
[02:06] <foso> uzerzero yes i do
[02:06] <nixnoob> biggiboy, try using the new fglrx driver from the ATI site I believe its called Catalyst 7-12
[02:06] <X-nor> tritium: well, installing without trashing the distribution packages
[02:06] <nixnoob> biggiboy, you made a mistake with ATI+Linux, better to go with Nvidia
[02:07] <tritium> X-nor: there are many -dev packages in the repos
[02:07] <c01100011> is there a prism package anywhere  ?
[02:07] <uzerzero> foso: and you say that awn won't show up on your desktop?
[02:07] <biggiboy> nix i just found the card laying around the house
[02:07] <tritium> X-nor: and they don't trash your install
[02:07] <biggiboy> : - )
[02:07] <nixnoob> foso, I think the AWN in the ubuntu repos is broken...
[02:07] <X-nor> tritium: development versions of libraries
[02:07] <biggiboy> nix what do you recomend to buy
[02:07] <biggiboy> cheap
[02:07] <Willabee> ok
[02:08] <nixnoob> foso, try the daily
[02:08] <tritium> !enter | biggiboy
[02:08] <ubotu> biggiboy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:08] <biggiboy> has to be pci though
[02:08] <phosphoricx> hello, I have a question about desktop switching?
[02:08] <Willabee> i'm trying to install a windows firefox so i can run shockwave things
[02:08] <uzerzero> foso: yes, try compiling awn from source, i had to do this on an earlier installation
[02:08] <Willabee> i have the install file, but now i'm stuck
[02:08] <Dr_willis_> I used AWN from --> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy avant-window-navigator
[02:08] <biggiboy> ok
[02:08] <nixnoob> biggiboy, if you go with any Nvidia card with 128 ram it will vastly outperform the ATI in a *nix box
[02:08] <tritium> X-nor: yes, each library in the repos has a lib package and a lib-dev package.  The lib package has the the shared libs, and the -dev package has the header files.
[02:08] <biggiboy> my ati is 128
[02:09] <Mechdave> phosphoricx, just ask, don't ask to ask
[02:09] <X-nor> tritium: yes, those headers are FOR development, but they are releases
[02:09] <macd> Im having an issue with mtop being configured via dpkg: http://pastie.caboo.se/132598
[02:09] <rich1> hi.  how do i uninstall a deb file.
[02:09] <bigjohnto> i have a share on windows that i want to mount on linux, the share is being mounted via smbshare, now the issue is that the smbconf file either specifies a domain or a workgroup.  the user that is mounting the share is a local user on a server, now the server itself is part of a domain.  the local user has admin privs.  When i try to mount the directory as the local user it just fails since the user is not part of a domain and in th
[02:09] <schizophreni> can someone help me instlaling my webcam?
[02:09] <X-nor> tritium: devel versions, as in cvs version of qt
[02:09] <nixnoob> biggiboy, I think you can get some 256 cards for under 50$ now, perhaps an FX series or a 7000 series card will do just fine
[02:10] <biggiboy> k thanks
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> !webcam | schizophreni
[02:10] <ubotu> schizophreni: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:10] <foso> uzerzero, im mostly a newb, is there somewhere that tells you how to do that?
[02:10] <biggiboy> thanks for your help
[02:10] <nixnoob> no prob
[02:10] <schizophreni> thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankw
[02:10] <rich1> !ubotu deb
[02:10] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[02:10] <uzerzero> foso: most compiling consists of ./configure, sudo make, sudo make install
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> schizophreni,  good luck FINDING a webcam that works :)
[02:10] <nixnoob> seriously, don't overdo the ubotu thing guys its annoying.
[02:10] <phosphoricx> Wsomehow I enabled a virtual desktop switcher to appear each time my mouse reaches the edge of my screen, how do I turn it off?
[02:10] <wols> nixnoob: you cannot buy FX series and you seriously wouldnÄt want to
[02:10] <rich1> !ubotu remove deb
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove deb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <X-nor> tritium: like is there a way to set the precedence of /lib, /usr/lib, /usr/local/lib, and just delete the local one if it causes problems?
[02:10] <uzerzero> foso if not, try google. maybe something like awn compile instructions ubuntu
[02:10] <wols> rich1: aptitude remove <package>
[02:11] <mchao1> hey guys, I am trying a live cd on a friends computer and it just hangs after we select run or install ubuntu
[02:11] <tritium> X-nor: not really, no
[02:11] <rich1> wols: even if i didn't install it with aptitude?
[02:11] <X-nor> tritium: so, chroot jail is the only option?
[02:11] <kompute1> LjL - I installed the voices, not I get "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp" when i echo text and pipe it through festival
[02:11] <nixnoob> mchao1, edit the boot line and remove quiet splash and tell us what it says before it hangs.
[02:11] <wols> X-nor: /etc/ld.so.conf but you don't want to play with it
[02:11] <foso> uzerzero,thanks, ill see what i can do
[02:11] <tritium> X-nor: I'd definitely use schroot
[02:11] <wols> rich1: is it a .deb?
[02:11] <otto_> is there a way to make adduser read from the standard input like 'adduser -f -' in freebsd?
[02:12] <mchao1> nixnoob, how do I edit the boot line?
[02:12] <bigjohnto>  i have a share on windows that i want to mount on linux, the share is being mounted via smbshare, now the issue is that the smbconf file either specifies a domain or a workgroup.  the user that is mounting the share is a local user on a server, now the server itself is part of a domain.  the local user has admin privs.  When i try to mount the directory as the local user it just fails since the user is not part of a domain and in t
[02:12] <rich1> wols: yes.  the kind you click and it brings up an install window.
[02:12] <nixnoob> mchao1, I think you can press "e" at the menu to edit the boot line.
[02:12] <wols> !repeat | bigjohnto
[02:12] <ubotu> bigjohnto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:12] <LjL> kompute1, uhm, are you on KDE?
[02:12] <wols> rich1: then aptitude will work
[02:12] <biggiboy> later
[02:12] <rich1> wols: thanks.  i'll try now.
[02:13] <X-nor> tritium: wait, isn't there ld library path or something. but not sure if it's actually acted upon by the loader
[02:13] <phalacee> is Scribus available for GNOME, or is it KDE only?
[02:13] <kazol2> Does anyone here know of GUI IRC clients (besides konversation, Xchat, and irssi)?
[02:13] <kompute1> LjL no just plain ubuntu (gnome)
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> kazol2: there's kvirc
[02:13] <X-nor> kazol2: can use Pidgin but not sure how that works as it's mainly an IM client
[02:13] <Willabee> also, is there anyway to load gameguard using wine/
[02:13] <nixnoob> kazo12, pidgin and gaim have built in IRC clients
[02:13] <sunogbaga> kazol2: irssi isn't gui
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> X-nor: thats blasphemy...lol
[02:13] <LjL> kompute1: oh, i thought you were on KDE given you tried kttsd etc... i don't know, i'm on KDE myself, it's possible that /dev/dsp is blocked by the GNOME sound daemon i guess
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> pidgin is a great IM client.. not a good irc client
[02:14] <kitche> kazol2: well considering irssi is not a GUI client I would look at xchat-gnome and some of the kde variants
[02:14] <stunatra> kazol2, LostIRC
[02:14] <kompute1> LjL i tried kttsd because it was the only choice i was given
[02:14] <kazol2> sunogbaga: I know, problem is, the clients I've tried don't have good DCC support.
[02:14] <kazol2> DCC downloads stop after only 1.9GiB.
[02:14] <nixnoob> only
[02:14] <X-nor> I use irssi but i have like 26 vertical lines maximum
[02:15] <sunogbaga> kazol2: i haven't tried dccing files more than 1G but i think i'm fine with irssi's dcc
[02:15] <Shpook> !pulseaudio
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulseaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <LjL> kompute1, what are you looking for exactly? a screen reader, or just a wait to read text files aloud...?
[02:16] <nixnoob> anyone running gutsy on a Asus C90s?
[02:16] <sunogbaga> kazol2: i think there's an irc client for firefox.
[02:16] <nbeck> Can anyone offer some serious help for a noob, regarding a foul-up I made while trying to edit the splash screen in the root menu?
[02:16] <Evolution2> hey guys I was wondering why my partition icons are not showing up under "storage media" they are mounted and I can access them from /media/... help please
[02:16] <nixnoob> nbeck ask more specific questions
[02:17] <WhyAllTehNicksTa> i'm getting "size mismatch" left and right... are the repos having some problems?
[02:18] <otto_> does ubuntu use a different adduser than other distros?
[02:18] <rich1> uggghhh!!! is anyone else having trouble playing yahoo chess using opera?
[02:18] <kompute1> LjL I'm looking for TTS - I have KSayIt to work, but theres a lot of echo in the voice
[02:18] <nbeck> I edited the root menu to adjust my splash screen to VGA=791 and  I put it in the wrong place.  Now my ubuntu will not boot up.  It's saying please append a correct "root=" and won't even start up in recovery mode.  I need somebody to go through the command errors I have written down and tell me how to edit out the VGA=791 if that's even possible.
[02:18] <kitche> otto_: not that I know of they might have linked it to pam or soemthing
[02:19] <otto_> kitche, the man page on my gutsy box is different than the man pages anywhere else...specifically there are no singlechar options like -f
[02:19] <wolo> Yoyoyo anyone here using a PPC?
[02:19] <X-nor> man -f
[02:19] <LjL> kompute1: echo? that's weird... Festival's voices certainly aren't top quality (not comparable to most commercial TTS, no), but *echo* is kind of weird
[02:19] <X-nor> whoops
[02:19] <Shpook> Okay, I have a chroot set up. Now when I type "sudo chroot /var/chroot/gutsy" in the terminal, I get this message: "id: cannot find name for group ID 120"
[02:19] <nbeck> It's saying Kernel panic-not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs ou unknown-block (8,3).
[02:19] <nixnoob> nbeck, you can edit the boot line on the fly from the grub menu using the "e" key on the appropriate kernel, once it boots you can then edit your /grub/menu.lst from the desktop environment
[02:20] <X-nor> otto_: man man shows man -f as an option, though
[02:20] <kompute1> LjL any idea how I can use AT&T voices or other voices?
[02:20] <nixnoob> nbeck, you are trying to put the fancy bootsplash with the hand print huh? yes VGA=791 is supposed to be there.
[02:20] <otto_> X-nor, I was referring to the options on man adduser
[02:21] <X-nor> otto_: oh, let me see
[02:21] <nbeck> Yeah, but I think I inserted it in the wrong place because I can't even load anything anymore.
[02:21] <nickrud> otto_, the adduser in ubuntu comes from debian, which was written for debian
[02:21] <nbeck> I hit the E and deleted the vga=791 from the Kernel but it still won't boot up, and next time I restart it's still there.
[02:21] <nixnoob> nbeck, you must be able to get to grub menu?  you can hit escape to choose kernels and then edit its with "e"
[02:22] <LjL> kompute1, not really, i don't think they're supported by festival, i really think you'd have to resort to commercial third-party solutions
[02:22] <nixnoob> nbeck, ofcourse its still there, it only goes away for that one boot, you must have changed something else, try booting from single user mode.
[02:22] <nbeck> Yeah, I did that and got rid of the vga part but it's still not booting.  It's only loading to kernel=panic-not synching VFS.
[02:22] <kompute1> LjL I swiched the audio from aRts to ALSA, that took away the echo
[02:22] <nbeck> How do I go about that nix?
[02:22] <Rufus_> how would i launch a desklet?
[02:22] <pradeep> How do I have multiple versions of glibc present?
[02:23] <Rufus_> !desklet
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <X-nor> otto_: are you thinking about useradd, or just a different distro's adduser?
[02:23] <soldats> Rufus_, which one
[02:23] <nixnoob> nbeck when you hit esc to see the grub menu there should be a kernel listed with the same version as yours but it wil say recovery mode next to it
[02:23] <Rufus_> soldats, the one i downloaded
[02:23] <nixnoob> nbeck, just be careful because you will be logged in as root
[02:23] <nbeck> Yeah, it runs the code and then stops at the same place.
[02:23] <nickrud> otto_, if you want to see it's pedigree, /usr/share/doc/adduser/copyright
[02:23] <pradeep> I have a program which needs an older version of libc
[02:23] <nbeck> Kernel panic, unable to mount root fs ov unknown-block(8,3)
[02:23] <otto_> X-nor, well the man pages I found for adduser online were different than what was on gutsy...what I am trying to do is emulate the freebsd "adduser -f -"
[02:24] <Rufus_> any ideas?
[02:24] <nixnoob> nbeck, even in recovery mode?
[02:24] <nbeck> Yeah
[02:24] <otto_> X-nor, which adds a user using the standard input instead of asking questions
[02:24] <nixnoob> nbeck, I have no idea then.
[02:24] <soldats> Rufus_, whats the name of desklet
[02:24] <Rufus_> DiskSpace
[02:24] <nixnoob> nbeck, try booting from a live disk and reinstalling grub
[02:24] <rich1> has anyone tried playing yahoo chess using opera?  this is killing me.
[02:24] <jimmygoon> yahoo chess?
[02:25] <rich1> yes.  chess on yahoo.
[02:25] <soldats> Rufus_, did you try to run it via command line ie "diskspace" in a terminba'
[02:25] <Shpook> When I type in "sudo chroot /var/chroot/gutsy" I get the error "id: cannot find name for group ID 120"   Anyone know why?
[02:25] <WhyAllTehNicksTa> apt-get giving me size mismatch on half the things i try to install... anyone?
[02:25] <LjL> kompute1: other TTS frontends / screen readers specifically for GNOME aside from "gnome-orca" are "lsr" and "gnopernicus", in case you want to give those a try. the audio quality will still depends on festival though
[02:25] <rich1> opera keeps failing with it.
[02:25] <soldats> terminal
[02:25] <otto_> X-nor, in short, I need to add a user from a script so it can't ask any questions
[02:25] <nbeck> alright.  One last question nix.  Can I write out my kernal and you see if there's any other flaw that stands out on it?
[02:25] <Rufus_> soldats, isnt there a thing in system > preferences?
[02:25] <nickrud> otto_, you are definitely confusing addusers, since the ubuntu one doesn't ask questions
[02:25] <kompute1> LjL I do, but I have no idea how to open orca...
[02:26] <nixnoob> nbeck , I have nothing to check it against right now cuz my nix box is temporarily out of commision but ill take a look
[02:26] <soldats> Rufus_, yes for disk space you should be able to go to administrator > system monitor for disk usage
[02:26] <nbeck> <2-dec1-490f-9d160bf317255e6fd ro quiet splash vga=791
[02:26] <macd> nickrud, doesnt useradd limit you to only a few accounts?
[02:26] <Rufus_> i mean to launch the desklet
[02:26] <nixnoob> nbeck, Is that the whole thing?
[02:26] <nbeck> yeah
[02:26] <LjL> kompute1: cannot help you must since i don't have GNOME... if it's not in the menu, you can always try « dpkg -L gnome-orca | grep bin » to see what the main executable program is
[02:26] <X-nor> otto_: oh, you'll have to use useradd I believe
[02:26] <macd> nickrud, err adduser
[02:26] <nixnoob> nbeck try adding root= to the begining of that
[02:26] <WhyAllTehNicksTa> you people are no help
[02:27] <soldats> Rufus_, ahh if it didnt add itself to the menu thne youd have to add it yourself
[02:27] <nbeck> kay, I'll give it a shot.  Appreciated.
[02:27] <Rufus_> where can i find the menu
[02:27] <nickrud> macd, what do you mean? it's designed for use in install scripts, so it can create any account
[02:27] <X-nor> macd: useradd is the command line one, adduser is the interactive one
[02:27] <otto_> nickrud, sure it does, unless there is a way to specify... if I do "adduser user --disabled-login" it will still ask for the username and stuff
[02:28] <soldats> Rufus_, 1 sec
[02:28] <otto_> I'll read the useradd man page
[02:28] <nixnoob> man is brutal
[02:28] <adamonline46> I just got my file server ready to start moving files over.  I was thinking FTP for uploads, for the error checking/speed/filesize reasons.  At the same time I'd like to be able to map the drives from both Linux and WinXP, so I guess I'd need Samba, too, for the Windows aspect of it.  Is there a better protocol than Samba to use for Linux to Linux sharing? Does my plan sound alright?  Is there anyone who's got a fileserver and some ad
[02:28] <ewook> man woman - No manual entry for woman
[02:28] <Shpook> Ugh, this chroot is driving me crazy.
[02:29] <maynards-girl> what version of ubuntu do i need if I'm trying to install ubuntu on a macBook?
[02:29] <nixnoob> adamonline46 yes you need samba
[02:29] <mchao1> nixnoob, thanks that seemed to work
[02:29] <otto_> but I just want to use a function to create a user with the name, homedir, and shell that I specify and NO password
[02:29] <maek> can you do a purge like thing with autoremove? im removing amarok and its got like 20 pkgs left for autoremove and I want to make sure to get all there bits. thanks.
[02:29] <nixnoob> nbeck, sometimes the answer is simple.
[02:29] <maek> maynards-girl: powerpc or intel?
[02:29] <maynards-girl> maek, intel
[02:29] <maek> maynards-girl: you should use x86
[02:30] <maynards-girl> maek, ok thank you
[02:30] <soldats> Rufus_, justa quick question the the applet tell you how mych space you have left, if so ca you try to use nautilus and chack disk space, if not if you rclick on the task bar and add new item there may be a diskspace item
[02:30] <adamonline46> maynards-girl: Don't use the X64 version, your wireless won't work for now...
[02:30] <X-nor> otto_: no password as in disabled account?
[02:30] <maek> maynards-girl: called "standard" from the download page
[02:30] <X-nor> otto_: -p : the default is to disable the account
[02:30] <nixnoob> X64 drivers usually suck.
[02:30] <nickrud> otto_, then you should probably use the --system option
[02:30] <nixnoob> or don't exist
[02:31] <Rufus_> soldats, find it?
[02:31] <otto_> it shouldnt be something a user can log in as
[02:31] <maynards-girl> so the norml 7.10 will work then?
[02:32] <Burlynn> maynards-girl: yes.
[02:32] <maek> maynards-girl: yeah, if you just go to the download page and pick your mirror, you want all the defaults.
[02:32] <santos_luis> hi ppl
[02:32] <robdig> hi
[02:32] <nickrud> otto_, so it's a system user, not a regular user , you probably want --system --no-login --no-create-home
[02:32] <santos_luis> can someone help me with ctags?
[02:32] <otto_> but you should still be able to su into the account as root
[02:32] <soldats> Rufus_, hmm i dont know too much about it i was trying to think of a way for it to work. i havent used gnome in a while i use xfce but im trying to remember how to fix your problem, i used the applet before but i cant remember
[02:32] <maynards-girl> so not the 64bit. just the standard.  thanks all!
[02:32] <soldats> sorry
[02:32] <soldats> ill look into it
[02:32] <Burlynn> maynards-girl: i would suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[02:33] <santos_luis> my ctgas dont map functions like scanf socket
[02:33] <nickrud> otto_, then I don't think you can have --no-login, since that prevents a shell being assigned
[02:33] <Burlynn> maynards-girl: your wireless more than likely wont work on a fresh install without additional drivers
[02:33] <maynards-girl> burlynn, thank you
[02:34] <Burlynn> no problem
[02:34] <CUBeR64> Hi, I was just wondering, if I had Xubuntu installed, would I be able to change the interface to blackbox rather than xfce?
[02:34] <nickrud> otto_, or more correctly, the shell is assigned to /bin/false
[02:34] <otto_> nickrud, the equivalent that I am trying to do is freebsd's adduser with '-w no' which disables the password...it seems like that is the same as --disabled-password on the ubuntu adduser
[02:34] <foso> sudo apt-get install build-essential autotools-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libgnome2-common libgnome2-dev libgnome-desktop-dev libgnome-vfs-dev libgtk2.0-dev libwnck-dev libgconf2-dev libglib2.0-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libgnomevfs2-0 libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome2-0 libwnck-common python-gtk2 python-gconf bzr gnome-common python-dev python-gtk2-dev python-cairo-dev python-gconf python-gnome2-dev gnome-icon-theme python-glade2 librsvg2-common, python-gno
[02:34] <foso> me2-extras
[02:34] <therethinker> If I have an ubuntu install, and I move the HDD to a completely different computer, will it work?
[02:35] <otto_> nickrud, --disabled-password still allows login just not with a password
[02:35] <foso> sorry all, wrong window!
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> therethinker: Maybe.
[02:35] <therethinker> Odd-rationale: exactly what I figured, thanks
[02:35] <Burlynn> therethinker: it could, but its not reccomended .. your running on totally different hardware
[02:35] <nickrud> otto_, sounds similar. I don't have any experience with bsd at all, though
[02:36] <otto_> nickrud, neither do I :) that's why this is difficult to move over to ubuntu since I dont really know what the options do
[02:36] <X-nor> otto_: right, it's not just switching to a new distro..
[02:37] <santos_luis> back
[02:37] <nickrud> otto_, su-ing from root is logging in, remember
[02:37] <Rufus_> how do i install adesklets?
[02:38] <Rufus_> the package
[02:38] <Dr_willis_> !desklets
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Rufus_> !adesklets
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adesklets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.   I saw a tutorial on that once..  I just went to the desklets web site and downloaded it.
[02:38] <nickrud> !info adesklets
[02:38] <ubotu> adesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-2build1 (gutsy), package size 204 kB, installed size 572 kB
[02:38] <nickrud> Rufus_, you'd look for it in synaptic
[02:39] <Dr_willis_> theres a 'desklets' and an 'adesklets' it seems :)
[02:39] <CUBeR64> Hi, I was just wondering, if I had Xubuntu installed, would I be able to change the interface to blackbox rather than xcfe?
[02:39] <wols_> CUBeR64: yes
[02:40] <CUBeR64> wols_: thank you :)
[02:40] <nickrud> CUBeR64, you can have as many desktops as you like, and switch freely between them
[02:40] <jbwarnken_> hi I have an issue with firefox in ubuntu it keeps greying out and stalling a lot
[02:40] <otto_> nickrud, and X-nor actually...it looks like 'useradd user' might be all I need...I tested it and it has no password but you can 'su user' as root
[02:40] <CUBeR64> nickrud: sweet, thank you :)
[02:40] <otto_> so thanks :)
[02:41] <nickrud> otto_, nothing like the low level commands :)
[02:41] <kitche> jbwarnken_: yeah the greying out is from compiz
[02:41] <jbwarnken_> so what to do then ?
[02:42] <phosphoricx> Somehow I enabled a virtual desktop switcher to appear each time my mouse reaches the edge of my screen, how do I turn it off?
[02:43] <maek> jbwarnken_: its showing up as gray because of compiz, its not slowing down because of it. are you behind a proxy? is your dns setup? do you have your host name in /etc/hosts for your loopback? do you have ipv6 enabled?
[02:43] <magic_ninja> !icewm
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icewm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <magic_ninja> !ice
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <Xplicit> my cd drive is being awkward is it hard to set up my laptop on the same network so i can just use my motherboards network boot option?
[02:43] <phosphoricx> !gnome
[02:43] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:43] <maek> jbwarnken_: sorry if thats not clear. if you were not using compiz you would not notice it because it wouldnt be gray but it would still slow down.
[02:44] <jbwarnken_> well it slows down stops even then goes bakc to normal  just started this and is a nusciance
[02:44] <jbwarnken_> so I switched to Opera
[02:44] <maek> jbwarnken_: the same thing happens to me at work when im behind a proxy but not at home. and this is on my laptop so its the same machine
[02:45] <rich1> jbwarnken_: are you having any flash or java problems with opera?
[02:45] <jbwarnken_> none so far
[02:45] <jbwarnken_> firefox has some quirks  form time to time
[02:45] <rich1> jbwarnken_: try yahoo chess, if you don't mind and see if it works for you.  it never does for me.
[02:45] <jbwarnken_> only thing bothers me I cannto use my Stumbleupon toolbar in Opera
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> jbwarnken_,  heh - thts an addictive addon
[02:46] <phalacee> is Scribus available for GNOME, or is it KDE only?
[02:46] <nickrud> heh. I abandoned that one when I realized what a time sink it was
[02:46] <high-freq> anyone know of a gui asm for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  you can run gnome and kde apps on each others desktop just fine.
[02:47] <mythomaniac> anyone have experience with the gnome-schedule?
[02:47] <phalacee> Dr_willis, really? I had no idea.
[02:47] <jbwarnken_> but no proxies here
[02:47] <phalacee> wow, that makes life alot easier
[02:47] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  its  alwyas been that way. :)  Linux  is so 'inclusive' :) heh heh
[02:48] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  now running the gnome and kde file managers both at the same time used to cause some issues.. but not much any more.
[02:48] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  of course your memory ussage will increase a bit by using both gnome and kde also.
[02:48] <lextori> I lost power while booting earlier today and now ubuntu won't boot completely, it throws me a few error messages and kicks me to the console(like I'd booted to recovery mode) Any ideas where to start fixing the problem?
[02:49] <Dr_willis_> lextori,  fsck the filesystems for a start.
[02:49] <Burlynn> if your running gnome and install kde apps its got to install all the kde libs also though, which can be large, just an fyi
[02:49] <Dr_willis_> lextori,  look for any error messages also while it boots.
[02:50] <phalacee> Dr_willis, what about the dependencies on KDE and so forth?
[02:50] <tsukasa> question, (slightly wrong channel, but..), i got metacity running as my window manager in os-x's X11, but the gtk2 themes arent working. gtk2 is installed. is there some fundamental thing im not understanding about how ubuntu sets up metacity?
[02:50] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  when you apt-get install whatever-kde-app   it should install them all
[02:50] <high-freq> anyone know of a gui asm for ubuntu?
[02:50] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  i always install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <lextori> Dr_Willis, I've copied a few down, it says that it's attempting to resume from /dev/disk/bu-uuid/(really long hex string I can type out in nessicary)
[02:50]  * nickrud hexes Dr_willis
[02:50] <astro76> phalacee, it is all handled automatically, but FYI, Scribus is not a KDE app, it's just QT and requires just a qt lib
[02:50] <bewst> Is it expected that the config file installed for my gutsy kernel sets CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y ?
[02:51] <Dr_willis_> !asm
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <phalacee> Dr_willis, I'm using the GUI for ubuntu, but I was wondering if I would need to install something like KDE-Common when I install my first KDE app?
[02:51] <high-freq> asm is assembly as in the programming language
[02:51] <bewst> Every kernel I try to build comes out 6x the size of the ones in the distro
[02:51] <kitche> !info nasm | high-freq
[02:51] <ubotu> high-freq: nasm: General-purpose x86 assembler. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98.38-1.2build1 (gutsy), package size 1520 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[02:51] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  the package manager handles all the needed deps for the programs. you shouldent have any problems
[02:51] <maek> phalacee: if you install say amarok or k3b it will install all the kde bits you need
[02:51]  * robdig thinks the closest thing to a gui for assembly programming is vi :)
[02:52] <nickrud> lextori, that's the swap partition the uuid is mentioning, the real errors come later
[02:52] <high-freq> ya i know nasm...did'nt know if there was some gui for asm
[02:52] <phalacee> okay, cool
[02:52] <tsukasa> question, (slightly wrong channel, but..), i got metacity running as my window manager in os-x's X11, but the gtk2 themes arent working. gtk2 is installed. is there some fundamental thing im not understanding about how ubuntu sets up metacity?
[02:52] <krammer> how can I get the force quit program??
[02:52] <phalacee> I figured it would need some KDE core libs or some such
[02:52] <kitche> high-freq: why would there be a gui for asm?
[02:52] <nickrud> robdig, doesn't eclipse have some assembler :)
[02:52] <high-freq> like i said ..didn't know if somebody made it look "pretty" lol
[02:52] <Nostahl> what are the main differences besides stock window managers between ubuntu and xubuntu
[02:53] <Burlynn> phalacee: its going to install them all if the program needs it
[02:53] <robdig> nickrud: dunno, haven't used eclipse
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  one is GNOME, the other is XFCE
[02:53] <high-freq> u know this button does this and this does this procedure..and so forth
[02:53] <kitche> Nostahl: they use different desktop environment that is all
[02:53] <phalacee> krammer, you can use a 'kill' command from the terminal if you know the process id (this can be found using the ps command on the terminal too)
[02:53] <Nostahl> other then that there the same backend?
[02:53] <Nostahl> ok
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  Other then that.. the installed apps Might differ a little.
[02:53] <soldats> Nostahl, xfce is more minimal than gnome
[02:53] <Nostahl> so i can still talk here if i have xubuntu? :P
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,   The core is about the same. :) you can alwyas install the stuff ya want.
[02:53] <nickrud> Nostahl, ubuntu will install openoffice, xubuntu will give you gnumeric and abiword iirc
[02:53] <bewst> s it expected that the config file installed for my gutsy kernel sets CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y ?
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  This is irc.. any irc client will let ya do that.
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  Install xchat on xubuntu, and there ya go.
[02:54] <Nostahl> well some irc's are snooty hehe
[02:54] <krammer> Phalacee thanks but i would like to have force quit on my desktop i had it before but i forgot how to install it
[02:54] <Nostahl> so some of them wont like you if you talk in the room thats not for your specific distro hehe
[02:54] <Nostahl> ie... debian
[02:54] <Nostahl> debian is a snooty room
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> Debian  is real snooty. :)
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> heh heh
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> SnootyLinux
[02:54] <soldats> Nostahl, well in xubuntu i really didnt understand your question sorry
[02:54] <robdig> nickrud: now when i used to program lots of assembler, the editor was called SPF...
[02:55] <MrPiracy> anyone got Direct Rendering off a intel 946gz videocard?
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> all the Ubuntu Variants are  the same under the 'skin' :)
[02:55] <Nostahl> soldats ah i was just wondering if volman came out of the box or if i had to set it up with xubuntu
[02:55] <BlaenkDenum> can someone please help me with wildcards, I'm trying to match for hidden files and folders, please, I have this so far \*/.\*
[02:55] <nickrud> robdig, I stopped after 6502 code, and that was done with backspace, up, down, left, right :)
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  you can always try 'echo YOURPATTERN' to see what its matching.. but i dont see what you are trying to do exactly
[02:55] <MrPiracy> i got Direct Rendering enabled when i uninstalled xserver-xgl
[02:55] <soldats> Nostahl, see i really am not sure what volman is i guess i could google it, ill check
[02:56] <MrPiracy> but then i lost many other things :(
[02:56] <robdig> nickrud: :)
[02:56] <Nostahl> i found out something interesting tonight... its not good to burn iso's at 40+ x's write speed
[02:56] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: thanks for the help, I'm trying to match for hidden files and folders ( .blah, .svn/, etc.)
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  and .* dont do it ?
[02:56] <Nostahl> it corrupted my xubuntu cd when i did it at 40+ heh
[02:57] <robdig> Nostahl: but its a good way to make coasters :)
[02:57] <Nostahl> so i reburned a new one at 8 x and went for some tea while i waited lmao
[02:57] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: for some reason no, I had that before and it wouldn't work
[02:57] <soldats> Nostahl, http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman/index.html
[02:57] <Nostahl> i just got my first cd burner couple weeks ago and a stack of 100 cd's hehe so im learning all about cd burning now lmao
[02:57] <Ttech> I got a question, why is it when  I use TightVPN it causes my system to "crahs" and basically just log me out every time
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,   try  'echo .*' it prints put all the . file a and . dirs here...
[02:57] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: okay
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  it also prints out . and .. :) which is proberly NOT what you want.
[02:58] <soldats> Nostahl, i heard there was a bug in it so you may have to compile it
[02:58] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: exactly, that's why it didn't work
[02:58] <Nostahl> soldats bug in what?
[02:58] <cheaa> i just installed kubuntu and i enabled a driver and went to reboot and on the startup part everything loads except "powernowd" etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd 156: cannot create sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_govenor dir non existant
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  Filter out the . and .. then with sed/awk :)
[02:58] <qukk> Um, hello! I'm trying to install Ubuntu server edition, and my keyboard isn't responding when trying to install from the CD. It works on the splash screen, but stops working at the language select screen. It is an old-style AT keyboard. Num-lock even stops working... Can anyone kindly help with this?
[02:58] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: because I'm trying to zip a directory, using the -x parameter to exclude hidden files and folders
[02:58] <soldats> Nostahl, volman
[02:58] <cheaa> error message might not be quite right, wrote it down quick
[02:59] <Nostahl> soldats ah
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  or trim out the first 5 characters with cut, perhaps.
[02:59] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: sorry?
[02:59] <Nostahl> i was using debian etch on my laptop but i found i had change to debian lenny wichis the testing version just to get volman
[02:59] <Nostahl> so im checkin out xubuntu
[02:59] <Nostahl> i like the xfce wm
[02:59] <cheaa> anybody?
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  You could try mc, to create the archive. It lets ya pick what files and so forth..   depending on what you are wanting to do . you may just want to write some script.
[03:00] <Shpook> So, I ran "sudo chroot /var/chroot/gutsy/" and got this error: "id: cannot find name for group ID 120" Does anyone know what happened?
[03:00] <MrPiracy> I get an error "Type1 module does not exist" in my Xorg.0.log after uninstalling xserver-xgl, how can I get this module back?
[03:01] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: I'm writing a script in python
[03:01] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: before, I was explicitly ignoring certain files like .svn, but I figured I would never be able to manually exclude all the hidden files that any given system could have
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  Python has full regrexp support thats a littel different from the shell. So it may take a little tweaking, - have it generate a list of all the .Whatever files, then trim out the . and .. entry
[03:02] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: I'm using the zip command like I mentioned and it has an -S parameter which is to include hidden files and folders, the only problem is that it is implicit on UNIX systems and I can't find a way to turn it off
[03:02] <giloth> good evenin' fellow ubuntuers :)
[03:02] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: oh duh I can run a glob huh
[03:03] <robdig> MrPiracy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[03:03] <cheaa> i just installed kubuntu and i enabled a driver and went to reboot and on the startup part everything loads except "powernowd" etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd 156: cannot create sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_govenor dir non existant
[03:03] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  :) now ya got it. I imagine the file globbing allready takes care of . and ..
[03:03] <cheaa> anybody
[03:03] <MrPiracy> robdig: already did that, Type1 is still missing
[03:04] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: yeah and the zip command allows me to run it multiple times to keep adding to the same archive, so that's good :) thanks man
[03:04] <WaY> hello
[03:04] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  for bash --->   $ echo .* | tail -c +5         trims out the . and .. here :)
[03:04] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: sweet, thanks man
[03:04] <WaY> what aplication can I use for p2p?
[03:04] <BlaenkDenum> WaY: frostwire
[03:05] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  NOTE the differeances when using + and  not using + in that command.. people overlook that NEAT trick
[03:05] <WaY> ok, Im going to have a look
[03:05] <WaY> thanks BlaenkDenum
[03:05] <BlaenkDenum> you're welcome
[03:05] <kye> way im having a issue with powernowd
[03:05] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: haha okay
[03:06] <kye> can ya help me
[03:06] <magic_ninja> !menumaker
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menumaker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <jhlxd> lxd007
[03:06] <jhlxd> hell
[03:07] <jhlxd> hello
[03:07] <robdig> MrPiracy: ok, since it's reinstalled, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg          and then restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[03:07] <cheaa> !powernowd
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powernowd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <jhlxd> hi,everone
[03:07] <adamonline46> Can I mount a samba network drive? How would I do that?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !info powernowd