[13:23] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: hold down the shift key when starting the computer (boot time).  This should display the Grub boot menu.  Choose recovery mode
[13:24] <jrib> nullwire: nautilus is the default file browser
[13:24] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: we are doing it in recovery mode, all we see is black screen
[13:24] <edbian> nullwire: nautilus is installed by default.  To use it open any folder or run nautilus in a terminal
[13:24] <afeijo> hi guys
[13:24] <nullwire> jrib, thank you
[13:24] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: the recovery mode does not display text at all when booting?
[13:25] <_dave_h_d> starts off with some text and then goes to black screen
[13:25] <afeijo> I created one account with adduser, but all emails sent to this acct are going to my acct inbox??
[13:25] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: there must be a shortcut to switch to command line from windows login?
[13:26] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: it should not even attempt a graphical interface from recovery.  it should display text asking you what recovery mode (command line, command line with networking, attempt to fix X server, etc) you want to enter
[13:27] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: so the fact that it goes black means something else must be wrong too
[13:28] <callaghan> _dave_h_d: have you tried booting normal, and when it gets messed up, press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal (press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back)?
[13:28] <laurent2628> i
[13:28] <callaghan> _dave_h_d: but like mbeierl said, recovery mode would be the better way to go
[13:30] <tetsuo--> Hello, how do i gain root permission to backup my home folder to an external drive? the ubuntu wont boot anymore and i want to format the disk
[13:30] <tetsuo--> im in the livecd now
[13:30] <tetsuo--> i have the password for the original disk if i can somehow switch to that user i think that should solve it
[13:30] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: sorry - let me clarify.  You are choosing the "Ubuntu, <version> (recovery mode)" from the very first boot menu when the computer is started, correct?
[13:31] <callaghan> tetsuo--: is this home folder you want to backup encrypted?
[13:32] <tetsuo--> it is not, i disabled that option for situations like these
[13:32] <tetsuo--> although i might reconsider now that ubuntu one is free for basic use
[13:32] <cdavide> quit
[13:33] <callaghan> tetsuo--: then you should see your hard drive in nautilus, from there navigate to /home/yourusername, copy everything there, plug in an external drive, paste it there and you should be good to go :)
[13:35] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: yes
[13:36] <_dave_h_d> no
[13:36] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: ?  undecided?
[13:36] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: i am first choosing ubuntu rather than windows
[13:37] <_dave_h_d> then second menu
[13:37] <_dave_h_d> ubuntu (recovery mode)
[13:37] <_dave_h_d> is this what we are supposed to do?
[13:38] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: yes, correct.  That is the one I was referring to.  It should not attempt to start a graphical login at all, so if the screen goes blank from there, it is not just graphics that are wrong, perhaps
[13:38] <afeijo_> damn, I recreated the account, and still it does not get the emails... wth
[13:38] <tetsuo--> \callaghan  when i do that it says it cannot copy them beause i dont have the required rights
[13:38] <Thelmaria> !quietirssi | Thelmaria
[13:38] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: well that is what is hapenning
[13:38] <lukus> hi - what's the difference between cd / and cd //
[13:39] <afeijo_> what am I doing wrong!
[13:39] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: yes.  I just wanted to confirm that as I have not seen that level of boot failure in a while.  Your Windows partition is still good, correct?
[13:39] <[DeVil-BoY]> greetins everyone
[13:39] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: yes
[13:39] <neoZ7> hello
[13:39] <Pici> lukus: Just like you asked before, it depends on the context.
[13:39] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: is there a shortcut to attempt?
[13:39] <[DeVil-BoY]> looking for some advice on my 915GM intel graphics
[13:40] <norbert79> !just-ask | [DeVil-BoY]
[13:40]  * [DeVil-BoY] is away, auto-away after 20 minutes (4h 21m 41s ago)
[13:40] <norbert79> oops :) Anywa, just do so
[13:40] <[DeVil-BoY]> i have installed a linux os and the video playback does not work
[13:40] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: i'm going to do a quick bit of reading and let you know if there's anything further I can recommend...
[13:40] <lukus> Pici, in the context of changing directory
[13:40] <neoZ7> I try to add Trac Bazaar Plugin to my Bazaar Explorer (win32), downloaded an .egg file and can't find a tutorial what to do with it. Could someone please point me to a place to read up on it? Thank you.
[13:40] <coz_> [DeVil-BoY], which linux OS?
[13:40] <Pici> lukus: // doesn't mean anything
[13:40] <lukus> Pici, could you offer any other clues?
[13:40] <[DeVil-BoY]> it's linuxmce
[13:40] <norbert79> [DeVil-BoY]: Bit more specification would be nice. Which distribution, which Video Player?
[13:40] <[DeVil-BoY]> kubunt
[13:41] <lukus> Pici, then why can I cd // ?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> afeijo_, you didn't happen to subscribe to Opendns lately, by any chance?
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> 8.10
[13:41] <Pici> lukus: you can cd ///////////////
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> the player is xwine
[13:41] <lukus> no you can't
[13:41] <Pici> lukus: it doesn't do anything.
[13:41] <afeijo_> BluesKaj, no, it is an internal server, for local emails
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> at first boot the video playsback
[13:41] <coz_> [DeVil-BoY], you need to go to #linuxmce channel
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> then it goes dark
[13:41] <lukus> cd // brings me to //
[13:41] <BluesKaj> afeijo_, ok
[13:41] <lukus> cd ///////////////// brings me to /
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> coz_
[13:41] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: thanks!
[13:41] <callaghan> tetsuo--: ok, try opening a terminal and enter "sudo nautilus" there, a new nautilus with super user rights should launch
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> i'm there
[13:41] <[DeVil-BoY]> but no joy
[13:42] <[DeVil-BoY]> i think it might be a driver issue
[13:42] <norbert79> [DeVil-BoY]: I think using a more recent distribution might solve the trick. 8.10 is rather very old, and not supported anymore
[13:42] <coz_> [DeVil-BoY],  ah ok  ,, sometimes you have to hang out in a channel and wait ,,,then ask the question again
[13:42] <Gentoo64> lukus, its exactly the same as root
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> callaghan, I believe it's "gksude nautilus".
[13:42] <[DeVil-BoY]> allright,
[13:42] <tetsuo--> callaghan: that works. thanks!
[13:42] <coz_> gksudo nautilus
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> gksudo, even.
[13:43] <tetsuo--> the sudo seems to work
[13:43] <callaghan> Sidewinder1: does it make a difference other than the password window popping up?
[13:43] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl: i can also tell you that my friend installed it using something like wubi
[13:43] <callaghan> Sidewinder1: since tetsuo-- is on a live cd, there isn't even a password set, so nothing to enter ;)
[13:43] <coz_> callaghan,   yes it can,,, gksudo is better ,, there is a possibility that permissions can be messed up with just sudo nautilus
[13:43] <tetsuo--> ok and its actually copying now
[13:44] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: oh, I've never done wubi install.  Does that actually replace the MS Windows bootloader with Grub?
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> callaghan, GUI programs should always use gksudo...
[13:44] <callaghan> coz_: oh I didn't know that! thanks
[13:44] <tetsuo--> will the backup haver any rights issues when i finish formatting?
[13:44] <coz_> callaghan,  no problem
[13:45] <lukus> I've found the answer
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> callaghan, Have a look at this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[13:45] <kasi_> how can I install a version of RubyGems > 1.8 on natty?
[13:45] <lukus> / is possible due to a $PS1 bug
[13:45] <lukus> rather // is possible due to a $PS1 bug
[13:46] <Gentoo64> lukus, its not a bug afaik its just something thats probably just "there"
[13:46] <Gentoo64> prob some old thing
[13:46] <lukus> well, glitch
[13:46] <lukus> I was curious about whether it was different .. and it was impossible to google
[13:46] <coz_> kasi_,  not sure let me check
[13:46] <SpiderFred> how to put reverse ssh tunnel into background? when i do ssh -R port:localhost:22 username@server & I cant connect there
[13:47] <Gentoo64> lukus, its not different in any way. just use / and forget about it
[13:47] <callaghan> Sidewinder1: that is indeed interesting, thanks
[13:47] <coz_> kasi_,   are you sure it is 1.8?
[13:47] <Mat-Noobsurubunt> O.O
[13:47] <Gentoo64> @_@
[13:47] <momolee> hey there can anyone help me with how I could crack my wireless network(for educational purposes)
[13:48] <Gentoo64> momolee, what s it a neighbours wifi?
[13:48] <callaghan> tetsuo--: you can always change the owner of the copied files back to your user with the command "sudo chown -R yourusername /path/to/the/files"
[13:48] <xuanbing>  why can not I type in Chinese in the Ubuntu system?
[13:48] <luite> you can try to crack kernel.org for educational purposes ;)
[13:48] <jnsl_> When i type: "service mysql status" i get: "mysql start/running" but when i do "ps -ef | grep mysql" i get: "jn        6568  2070  0 13:47 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysql" ....dose this mean mysql is running or not ?
[13:49] <coz_> kasi_,   go here   http://rubygems.org/pages/download  click the targz  download,,,
[13:49] <dnivra> jnsl_: I think it is running :). that's what service mysql status say doesn't it?
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> callaghan, My pleasure. :-)
[13:49] <toek> hola, im installing ubuntu 10.04 server on vmware esxi 4.1, the network is going up and down on the ubuntuinstall... ping for about 30 sec then 30 sec down then 30 more sec etc... any clues?
[13:49] <coz_> kasi_,   extract the package... open terminal ,, cd to that extracted package.. type   rub setup.rb
[13:49] <afeijo> ok, simpler question: how to make an linux acct get emails?
[13:49] <GunArm> i usually use Nvidia cards to be safe on ubuntu.  but im thinking about building a home theater PC with an onboard intel graphics chip, does ubuntu get proprietary drivers for intel like it does for nvidia?
[13:49] <coz_> kasi_,  sorry ,,,that's    ruby  setup.rb
[13:49] <jnsl_> dnivra aye =) ok... but when i just type "mysql" or try to login to mysql, i get this error: "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[13:50] <luite> GunArm: intel drivers are open source
[13:50] <[DeVil-BoY]> intel drivers
[13:50] <[DeVil-BoY]> humm
[13:50] <[DeVil-BoY]> i need some of those
[13:50] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: dumb question - is this a laptop?
[13:50] <[DeVil-BoY]> dunno which ones to install
[13:50] <GunArm> luite, do they work? for all the modern gpu offloading and stuff?
[13:50] <SpiderFred> please how to put reverse ssh tunnel into background? when i do ssh -R port:localhost:22 username@server & I cant connect there from server
[13:50] <luite> GunArm: (doesn't mean that they always work flawlessly though)
[13:50] <dnivra> jnsl_: try mysql -u <user> -p
[13:51] <Thelmaria> SpiderFred: try -f
[13:51] <[DeVil-BoY]> can anyone care to explain how to install this driver
[13:51] <[DeVil-BoY]> Intel 2011Q3 graphics package
[13:51] <jnsl_> when i do mysql -u root -p i get the same error :S
[13:51] <jnsl_> could it be related to my firewall ?
[13:51] <jnsl_> the error comes after i change bind-address to my servers ip in my.cnf
[13:52] <dnivra> jnsl_: eh? I get a prompt for password. that's really baffling :). dunno. probably someone else can help out in thir regard.
[13:52] <zhenbeiju> help  how can i get source from this page http://code.google.com/p/phonevisions/source/checkout
[13:52] <dnivra> s/thir/this
[13:52] <jnsl_> i get prompt as well, and then the error afterwards
[13:52] <Thelmaria> jnsl_: You're possibly trying to connect on <IP_ADDRESS>, not <ip address> ? not sure though.
[13:52] <SpiderFred> Thelmaria: that doesnt work either
[13:52] <luite> GunArm: hmm, don't know exactly. there are different gpu's though. some intel stuff has an integrated gma500 thing, that uses the psb driver (used in a few netbooks)
[13:52] <jnsl_> I replaced <IP_ADDRESS> with my servers ip in my.cnf
[13:53] <dnivra> jnsl_: weird question but do you have mysql-server installed?
[13:53] <jnsl_> yep
[13:53] <luite> GunArm: the usual on-chipset (gma3000 etc) driver is probably the best supported one, the sandy bridge on-die gpu is newer
[13:53] <jnsl_> but how do i check ?
[13:53] <jnsl_> just in case
[13:53] <dnivra> js_: alright. just making sure cos I don't :).
[13:54] <dnivra> oops sorry js_. I mean jnsl_ ^^
[13:54] <dnivra> jnsl_: try the command "dpkg -s mysql-server"
[13:54] <luite> GunArm: but I have to admit that I don't know much more, I built a htpc a few years ago (xbmc) and had an intel, but swapped the motherboard to get a nvidia gpu (on-board) for the better drivers
[13:54] <_dave_h_d> mbeierl:
[13:54] <_dave_h_d> yes
[13:54] <jnsl_> yeah its installed alright
[13:54] <[DeVil-BoY]> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q3.html
[13:55] <dnivra> jnsl_: ah okay. just clarifying that :).
[13:55] <[DeVil-BoY]> which one should i download to install?
[13:55] <glebaron> jnsl_, ps -ef | grep mysqld
[13:55] <mbeierl> _dave_h_d: is there a "toggle between external monitor and lcd panel" button?  Could you try that, or maybe plug in an external monitor?
[13:55] <GunArm> luite, i see, i was trying to build this for my dad since it has a lot of goodies onboard, but I wanted to check to be safe http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/03/revisiting-the-home-theater-pc.html
[13:56] <GunArm> its a modernish hardware htpc
[13:56] <jnsl_> That returns: jn        6611  2070  0 13:55 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld  ...But "service mysql status" gives: "mysql start/running"
[13:56] <glebaron> jnsl_, it's not running.
[13:56] <jnsl_> the first indicates that its not running and the last that it is right
[13:57] <luite> GunArm: ah looks cute. I had a lot of problems with nvidia as well to be honest, especially audio output over hdmi has been problematic, would only work with very specific driver versions, and then there were still audio channels swapped
[13:57] <Thelmaria> SpiderFred: What are you trying to do exactly?
[13:57] <glebaron> jnsl_, service mysql status should also give you a pid.
[13:57] <Thelmaria> SpiderFred: -f -N will work.
[13:58] <jnsl_> service mysql status mysql start/post-start, process 6721	post-start process 6722
[13:58] <jnsl_> ok now i get this: service mysql restart
[13:58] <jnsl_> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.64" (uid=1001 pid=6813 comm="restart) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[13:58] <FloodBot1> jnsl_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:58] <Thelmaria> SpiderFred: You want to put a reverse tunnel so you can get from A->B, yes? So, on B, you do: ssh -R <port>:localhost:22 user@A -f -N
[14:00] <GunArm> luite, yeah i think alot of people have the audio over hdmi problem.  i like the low power and the portable case on this
[14:00] <jnsl_> ok as root: "service mysql restart" gives: "mysql start/running"
[14:01] <callaghan> jnsl_: just to make sure: does "sudo mysql -u username -p" work?
[14:01] <jnsl_> ps -ef | grep mysqld returns the same
[14:01] <jnsl_> same socket error :/
[14:01] <jnsl_> I can get it to work if i change back bind-address
[14:02] <jnsl_> but i need to be able to access the databases from my laptop
[14:03] <BluesKaj> GunArm, sometimes pulseaudio options, usually the pavucontrol needs to be configured for hdmi , if hdmi is even recognized by pulseaudio
[14:03] <callaghan> jnsl_: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,9689,71099#msg-71099 a solution to the error message was posted
[14:03] <glebaron> jnsl_, forgive my ignorance, but in what file do you set the bind-address?
[14:03] <callaghan> jnsl_: maybe you have the same permission issue...
[14:04] <jnsl_> I edited the vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[14:05] <jnsl_> callaghan hmm but i cant even log in as root =(
[14:05] <glebaron> jnsl_, it should be set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:06] <glebaron> :q
[14:06] <jnsl_> I think you are right, strange though multiple guides have told me i need to bind the address to my server ip if i want to access mysql remote
[14:06] <Janusman> Help! I want to temporarily disable Nvidia proprietary driver and use integrated Intel gfx. I disabled nVidia in BIOS (this is a thinkpad w520) and I get a GUI but no compositing.
[14:07] <jnsl_> it works when i change it back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> is it possible to mount ext4 filesystem as ext2?
[14:08] <zhenbeiju> no one here?
[14:08] <anaithnid> I am looking for help with audio output problems with jack on a 2010 iMac
[14:08] <Stanley00> rafaelsoaresbr: what is that for?
[14:08] <Myrtti> zhenbeiju: install mercurial, enter that code into your terminal, rock and roll
[14:09] <Stanley00> rafaelsoaresbr: anyway, I don't think it is possible
[14:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> Stanley00: okay, thanks
[14:10] <bullgard6> What is the name of the command-line command that performs the inverse operation of 'readlink'?
[14:10] <Featurefreak> i'm having trouble with the network indicator, the menu specifically, when i click on a wireless network, or click on Connect to Hidden network cause my wifi just hasn't seen the network yet, nothing happens
[14:10] <Featurefreak> clicking anything on that menu doesn't seem to be having any effect anymore.
[14:10] <jrib> bullgard6: probably find ;)
[14:11] <Featurefreak> the only way i just got on wifi now, was hitting super key, searching for network connections, editing the wifi connection for my home wifi, just changed to or from available for all users, and save, then it picks up the netwoork itself and connects
[14:11] <garderer> coucou
[14:11] <Featurefreak> Does anyone know why this would be happening?
[14:11] <zhenbeiju> Myrtti,  i do it
[14:12] <wad> I'd like to edit the command that runs firefox from the launcher, to add a "-p default" to it. Where can I do this?
[14:12] <wad> right-clicking on the launcher icon doesn't bring up any sort of properties dialog...
[14:13] <zhenbeiju> Myrtti,  but reture   abort: error: Connection reset by peer
[14:13] <bullgard6> jrib: In this generality your answer is wrong. As 'man find'explains, find - search for files in a directory hierarchy."
[14:13] <robin0800> wad, try usr/share/applications
[14:13] <jrib> bullgard6: yes, find with some options
[14:13] <Myrtti> zhenbeiju: then there's a problem with your network connection.
[14:14] <Featurefreak> hmm, llost irssi for a sec
[14:17] <wad> robin0800, thanks!
[14:19] <Gredeu> is btrfs the fastest file system for a SSD drive for operating system / mount point only ?
[14:19] <mASOUD_42> i have 4gb ram and 2gb swap partition, what happens if i hibernate?
[14:19] <Gredeu> depends what you have in memory it all goes to hard drive space
[14:20] <mASOUD_42> gredeu , what if i have all 4gb ram full?
[14:20] <Gredeu> you wont have enough swap
[14:20] <Gredeu> gparted to resize it may take a long time
[14:21] <mASOUD_42> i mean will it hibernate?
[14:21] <Gredeu> depends what you have loaded
[14:21] <Gredeu> you have 2GB of space to swap
[14:21] <wad> robin0800, hmm, that didn't do the trick. I edited the file, but clicking the firefox icon in the launcher still does the wrong thing.
[14:21] <wad> It isn't cached somewhere, is it?
[14:21] <Gredeu> over 2GB you need larger swap
[14:22] <mASOUD_42> you mean it wont hibernate?
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> mASOUD_42, I believe the rule of thumb is 1.5 times RAM for swap.
[14:22] <Myrtti> !pm > zhenbeiju
[14:23] <zoufeng> Hi,Are you using ElementOS?  Because I am using VMware to try ElementOS,but  it must use password and user  while i cannt find .
[14:23] <zhenbeiju> Myrtti,  network connection look ok, i talk with you now
[14:24] <zhenbeiju> ubottu,   i see it, sorry,
[14:24] <robin0800> wad, remove icon from launcher launch from  usr/share/applications and tell icon to stay in launcher
[14:26] <robin0800> wad, you also need to be administrator to edit icon info so gksudo nautilus might be your friend
[14:28] <tsunamie> hi there. Does anyone know why when I add the following to the /etc/sudoers file the user test can still use commands other than the one I stated? test    ALL=/usr/bin/mysql
[14:28] <tsunamie> do I need a restart for the changes to take effect or something?
[14:29] <delac> any way to grab screenshot of window that spans over multiple desktops?
[14:29] <zhenbeiju> who can help me download source from this page  http://code.google.com/p/phonevisions/source/checkout
[14:30] <ovov> hello everybody
[14:30] <BarkingFish> delac - the only way would be to take a screenshot of each desktop in turn and put them together in something like gimp.
[14:30] <tnbboot> Hi
[14:31] <BarkingFish> I'm not aware of a screencapture facility which can cross desktops to get a multi screen window
[14:31] <tnbboot> I get CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format when I tryand open a .iso file. And when I mount it, there is nothing on it.
[14:31] <delac> BarkingFish: I was trying to avoid the stiching by taking one big screenshot in the first place...
[14:31] <tnbboot> It's a 7gb file
[14:31] <BarkingFish> that's the problem, delac - I'm not sure you can.
[14:32] <compdoc> tnbboot, sounds like a bad d/l
[14:32] <compdoc> where did you get it?
[14:32] <tnbboot> skidrow
[14:32] <tnbboot> It works for loads of people
[14:33] <compdoc> I was going to try to d/l it myself, but I dont think I will if its a crack
[14:33] <tnbboot> Okay
[14:33] <tnbboot> Well
[14:33] <tnbboot> I don't know why it doesn't work
[14:33] <tnbboot> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6245875/Assassins_Creed_Brotherhood-SKIDROW
[14:34] <tnbboot> compdoc: I think it may work on Windows
[14:35] <Abbas-> everything works onm windows
[14:35] <Abbas-> :)
[14:35] <Abbas-> get the iso, install daemon tools lite (old non blaoted) vefsion
[14:35] <Abbas-> mount iso, install game, copy crack.
[14:35] <Abbas-> WIN
[14:36] <juggernauts> I am trying to boot from gparted through pd...i m using unetbootin software..whn i boot from pd it dosent show any screen and just hangs.. why??
[14:37] <tsunamie> 	hi there. Does anyone know why when I add the following to the /etc/sudoers file the user test can still use commands other than the one I stated? test ALL=/usr/bin/mysql
[14:37] <matlock> ubuntu sees my android phone as a digital audio player, how do i change this
[14:38] <BarkingFish> matlock, most cellphones have a choice of how to identify when connected via usb.  Have you checked your phone to see if you can change it?
[14:38] <matlock> no
[14:38] <matlock> most cellphones don't
[14:38] <matlock> s/cellphones/android phones/
[14:38] <bill_toulas> most cellphones do
[14:38] <BarkingFish> mine for example will connect via usb as a webcam, a media player or a portable HDD
[14:38] <matlock> android
[14:39] <hplpb> matlock: most android phones I've used do
[14:39] <matlock> no
[14:39] <matlock> the problem lies with ubuntu
[14:39] <hplpb> usually it'll pop up when you plug in your phone and ask if you want to charge only, disk drive, etc
[14:39] <matlock> ok now you're making sense
[14:40] <matlock> cause those are the only two options android phones offer
[14:40] <matlock> actually it's one option
[14:40] <matlock> enable disk usage
[14:40] <matlock> or not
[14:40] <hplpb> I plug mine in, choose disk drive, it sees it as a usb drive
[14:40] <matlock> ok
[14:40] <BarkingFish> that was what I was getting at
[14:40] <briank__> anyone know how of any repositories out there that have bind9 9.8? looked through oneiric, and it still only has 9.7.3
[14:40] <matlock> then tell me why ubuntu sees mine as an mp3 player (since now)
[14:40] <jnsl_> why is it bad to open port 3306 (:
[14:40] <matlock> last time i connected it, it worked fine.
[14:40] <hplpb> when you click enable disk usage it does?
[14:40] <jnsl_> i want too!
[14:41] <DJones> matlock: It depends which version of android software, mine gives about 1/2 dozen different options, which version of android does your phone have
[14:41] <matlock> this time i connected it it says 'these files are on a digital audio player'
[14:41] <sgo11> After I use a project and use nvidia-settings to configure twinview and 1024x768. my laptop boots to 1024x768 from that point on. I have to manually use nvidia-settings to change it after reboot. how to fix this problem? I tried (1) rm xorg.conf. (2) rm ~/nvidia-settings-rc (3) sudo nvidia-xconfig . no luck.
[14:41] <matlock> DJones, just stop, it's not my phone
[14:41] <matlock> it's ubuntu
[14:41] <BarkingFish> jnsl_, it's not bad to open 3306 if you're using mysql, since mysql uses 3306 for connections
[14:41] <BarkingFish> otherwise, don't open it.
[14:42] <sgo11> s/project/projector/
[14:42] <matlock> so. how can i make ubuntu NOT see my phone as a digital audio device
[14:42] <matlock> considering it just started with this bS
[14:42] <jnsl_> Its so i can connect to remote databases... but everywhere on the net people say its not so brilliant
[14:43] <jnsl_> and its not even recommended with restricted ips
[14:43] <drullan> i have a problem with the security ring and svn server validation ....
[14:43] <BarkingFish> basically mysql uses it for incoming server connections, jnsl_ - leaving any port open when you're not using it is obviously not good.
[14:43] <drullan> surely is not easy to repair this but...
[14:43] <jnsl_> okay
[14:44] <matlock> you guys are useless
[14:44] <hplpb> and that's now you don't get helped :)
[14:44] <drullan> when i make a checkout the keyring remember the keys BUT it nos interprete that on terminal...
[14:44] <BarkingFish> hplpb, some people like nothing more than to bitch, simple as that :P
[14:45] <hplpb> BarkingFish: exactly.. and I bet he changed something in his phone that's causing it.. the phone is telling ubuntu that it is a digital audio player
[14:45] <BarkingFish> yep
[14:45] <drullan> and it ask me 2 keys, 1 username and a key.... every time, everi check out commit etc
[14:46] <drullan> how i can repair it?
[14:46] <BarkingFish> Mine asks when I plug in via usb what I want it to be - although it's not an android phone, I know the option exists on a lot of the modern phones - even my old Nokia E71 has it.
[14:47] <sgo11> anyone have any ideas about my problem? ...
[14:47] <shep_> Anyone have issues with corrupt files on installation CD's?  I cannot seem to get an iso to work to install Ubuntu
[14:47] <hplpb> BarkingFish: Yeah, it will unless you choose the wrong option and check not to ask anymore which is probably what he did, or changed usb settings
 do you know how i open 3306 with apparmor ?
[14:48] <sgo11> shep_, you can try a usb drive for installation.
[14:49] <ovov> 3306 ?
[14:49] <BarkingFish> jnsl_, sorry, I don't.  I only have default ports open on here, and I've never tried to open others.
[14:49] <shep_> thanks, have you heard of others having issues with iso's installing?
[14:49] <jnsl_> ok
[14:49] <ovov> you need stronger passwd
[14:49] <sgo11> shep_, not really with ubuntu. I had this issue with opensuse iso.
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> shep_, Did you md5sum the ISO before burning?
[14:50] <sgo11> I assume everyone should check md5sum first. :)
[14:51] <shep_> I have had it with CentOS 6 and Ubuntu 10.04 /11  the only OS that I can get working it seems is CentOS 5.4
[14:51] <ovov> - - i use ubuntu server 10.10
[14:51] <shep_> I did not md5sum
[14:51] <iuytfr> hello
[14:51] <iuytfr> there
[14:51] <iuytfr> what this command does ?
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> sgo11, But you know what happens when one assumes. :-)
[14:51] <iuytfr> ip -a
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | shep_
[14:52] <sgo11> shep_, CD drive is not useful in these days anyway. you can use usb disk for installation. if you don't check md5sum, you should check it now. :)
[14:52] <juggernauts> I am trying to boot from gparted through pd...i m using unetbootin software..whn i boot from pd it dosent show any screen and just hangs.. why??
[14:52] <sgo11> Sidewinder1, ^_^
[14:52] <Onepamopa> anyone knows how to allow port 443 to be "bound" by process, started from user with limited privileges (and without sudo) ?
[14:52] <case_9829> hi scooby
[14:52] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[14:53] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | shep_
[14:53] <myka> anyone here willing/able to help me with an installation mystery?
[14:53] <BarkingFish> iuytfr, from what I can see of man ip, -a is not an option
[14:54] <Onepamopa> anyone knows how to allow port 443 to be "bound" by process, started from user with limited privileges (and without sudo) ?
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> !ask > myka
[14:54] <Onepamopa> as far as I know ports bellow 1000 are root only
[14:54] <Onepamopa> but I need 443 to be usable by normal user
[14:54] <CluelessPerson> hey guys
[14:54] <CluelessPerson> Onepamopa, can't.
[14:54] <Onepamopa> wtf
[14:54] <Onepamopa> that's not good
[14:55] <Onepamopa> no config anywhere ?
[14:55] <CluelessPerson> Hey guys, what's the best linux email server?
[14:55] <CluelessPerson> Onepamopa,  it requires root.
[14:55] <iuytfr> perfect BarkingFish
[14:55] <iuytfr> netstat is for what purpose ?
[14:55] <fr0sted> hi can someone help please, ubuntu keep taking me to a black login screen, and wont boot up normal
[14:55] <kion> Why when I start my ubuntu Box it only asks for my password, but my moms, asks for the password and then the keyring passwod as well?
[14:55] <CluelessPerson> Onepamopa,  only root can use ports below 1000
[14:55] <CluelessPerson> kion,   The key ring password is very different
[14:56] <Onepamopa> CluelessPerson good, I have root but I've made a non-root user with no sudo privileges
[14:56] <Onepamopa> and I want it to be able to use port 443
[14:56] <Onepamopa> there's no way to do it ?!
[14:56] <myka> i have a pc that is running Qimo 1, built on xubuntu 8. I want to upgrade to Qimo 2. When I put the installation disc in the installation stalls and the capslock and scroll lock lights start flashing. I tried just installing Ubuntu 10.04, and the same thing happened. What's going on and how can I fix it?
[14:56] <CluelessPerson> kion,  The password is the password to the user long, the keyring password is basically a password for access to ALL other saved passwords
[14:57] <kion> CluelessPerson, yes but why my box never asks for the keyring password and another also asks for that keyring one?
[14:58] <CluelessPerson> I dunno
[14:59] <glebaron> CluelessPerson, the best linux email server is zimbra, which uses postfix on the bottom. IMHO.
[14:59] <Zequez> Hello, the Ubuntu Oneiric beta 1 links are all 404 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview
[14:59] <Onepamopa> CluelessPerson blah, on freebsd you can adjust those prots via simple sysctl change
[14:59] <Onepamopa> why cant @ ubuntu ?
[15:00] <Pici> Zequez: Its not yet released. Feel free to await the release in #ubuntu+1
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> !oneiric > Zequez
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> Oops, too slow. :-)
[15:00] <Zequez> Pici: Thanks, I will ^^
[15:02] <corona> Is it normal to have a firefox related zombie process on ubuntu 11.04 when firefox is running? Like this:  [firefox-bin] <defunct>
[15:02] <danutz> google earth doesn`t work on ubuntu?
[15:03] <glebaron> danutz, it works on my ubuntu.
[15:03] <coz_> it should
[15:03] <danutz> well I have 11.04 and it doesn`t
[15:03] <danutz> it`s a bug it says
[15:04] <BarkingFish> danutz, I have 11.04 and the build for ubuntu works here.
[15:05] <myka> asking again: I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS from Qimo1/Xubuntu8. The installation stalls after about a minute with the caps lock and scroll lock lights flashing on the keyboard. What does this mean and how do I fix it so I can complete the installation?
[15:06] <fr0sted> hi can someone help please, ubuntu keep taking me to a black login screen, and wont boot up normal
[15:06] <chrisgu> can you get a shell using ALT+F1 or ALT+F2?
[15:07] <Sidewinder1> myka, I think that it's a "kernel panic". :-(
[15:07] <myka> sidewinder1, what does that mean -- it sounds bad.
[15:07] <Sidewinder1> myka, It ain't good.
[15:07] <chrisgu> did the machine just to an update?
[15:08] <chrisgu> might be a problem with your X config
[15:08] <Sidewinder1> !who | chrisgu
[15:08] <_cb> Just upgraded to 11.04 and now looking at installing several programs via sudo-apt get instead of typing them 1 by one in the terminal window is it possible to run a batch? Any links that would show me how?
[15:08] <nnull> use spaces ?
[15:09] <Sidewinder1> _cb, Have you tried Synaptic Package Mgr.?
[15:09] <myka> sidewinder1, is there a way to overcome the kernel panic, or am I just stuck.
[15:09] <glebaron> _cb, sudo apt-get install program1 program2 program3 program4
[15:09] <_cb> Sidewinder1 that is one option but if I could just have a text file that is read by the terminal it would be so much faster
[15:10] <chrisgu> myka, are you able to login ? if so you may just have a problem with your X config
[15:10] <DaZ> _cb: apt-get something `cat file|xargs`
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> myka, I was lucky to identify your problem; beyond that, fixing that particular problem is beyond my expertice, sorry. :-(
[15:10] <glebaron> cb, if you have a file you can sudo apt-get install < filename
[15:10] <iuytfr> How to view print jobs in progress?
[15:10] <myka> sidewinder1, swell.
[15:11] <myka> sidewinder1, thanks for the lead... back to research how to fix it.
[15:12] <Sidewinder1> myka, Please just persevere; someone else will "chime-in" eventually and help you solve your problem.
[15:13] <_cb> How would I run the following install with one command?
[15:13] <_cb> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:13] <Pici> _cb: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak vlc
[15:13] <corona> _cb:&&
[15:14] <Pici> _cb: or replace ; with &&
[15:16] <_cb> Wow that is so cool. Can I put it in one file ie /install.txt and then have the terminal execute /install.txt?
[15:16] <BarkingFish> guys, what is our implementation of opengl?  I have a feeling that danutz' installation of Google earth isn't working because he's missing OpenGL
[15:17] <BarkingFish> the error is Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[15:17] <iuytfr> hello there
[15:17] <iuytfr> How to view print jobs in progress?
[15:17] <BarkingFish> I'm sure that needs an opengl installation
[15:18] <glebaron> _cb, yes, but you have to make the file executable before you do it.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> scripting fundamentals. :)
[15:19] <iuytfr> How to view print jobs in progress?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> iuytfr:  lpq command is one way.. old skool way.
[15:20] <brahmana> Hi all
[15:20] <iuytfr> lpstat
[15:20] <iuytfr> ?
[15:20] <brahmana> `pmap -x <pid>` doesn't print RSS. It only prints VMSize
[15:20] <glebaron> iuytfr, lpstat -l
[15:20] <brahmana> Is that known bug?
[15:20]  * Dr_Willis said lpq, try it and see.. try lpstat.. never used that one.. :)
[15:20] <_cb> glebaron is it as simply as using chmod to make the text file an executable?
[15:20] <brahmana> This is 10.04.1 (LTS) btw
[15:20] <iuytfr> thanks
[15:21] <glebaron> _cb, yes. something like chmod 755 filename
[15:21] <brahmana> I saw a bug report of the opposite nature (i.e. resident set size being printed but not VM size)... but I have the version in which that bug is fixed
[15:21] <Stanley00> glebaron: I think chmod +x is a better choice ^^
[15:21] <brahmana> So any known reports of pmap not being able to resident size?
[15:22] <iuytfr> How to view the NFS mounts mounted and shared on the network?
[15:22] <danutz> I have 2 graphic interfaces..how do I change between them?
[15:22] <_cb> Great!! thanks a lot. Eye opener for me
[15:23] <bravo_> OK, I installed proprietary nVidia in 10.04 lucid by doing the System -> hardware drivers install (GUI), now my ubuntu does not show any video when I boot. PLEASE, how do i rollback to nevau drivers???
[15:26] <pegaso69> http://xdccing.com
[15:26] <bravo_> can anoyone help me to roll back my nvidia driver to the standard ubuntu video drivers, i cant access my system because I have no video
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> bravo_:  boot to text mode perhaps
[15:28] <glebaron> Stanley00, why?
[15:28] <bravo_> how do i do that dr_willis
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> !text
[15:28] <bravo_> hold down shift, edit grub entry manually then boot?
[15:28] <bravo_> thx, gonna try now
[15:28] <Stanley00> glebaron: it's just do what we want, make executable, and no more :D
[15:29] <bravo_> do i edit one of the menuentrys and add !text or what?
[15:29] <bruno_> it
[15:32] <luckybunny> hi folks... does anyone know if there's a channel for wine on freenode?
[15:32] <Pici> luckybunny: #winehq
[15:32] <luckybunny> thanks
[15:32] <Benkinooby> i use ubuntu 10.04 and it randomy freezes. i got the feeling that it got to do with firefox but can not verify that. what happens is that my whole system freezes after firefox is under heavy load. right now, after the freeze (and a hard reboot) i notice an other strange behaviour: my xchat window is on top of my midori (i use midori for now because i am mad at firefox) window and at 2% cup load. alt tabbing to midori makes my system to go a
[15:32] <Benkinooby> t 100% cpu load and the part of the midori window, that was hidden by xchat stays gray for about 5 seconds
[15:33] <Benkinooby> can some1 help me to investigate the cause for that odd behaviour, pleasE
[15:33] <BarkingFish> right guys, I gotta go for a bit, if someone could help danutz when he comes back, he just needs to switch video modes I think, I'd appreciate it - I got half of his google earth problem fixed, he just needs to know how to switch video from processor to his dedicated video card.
[15:33] <BarkingFish> See you guys later :)
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, I would first back-up my bookmarks; then completely remove FF, then reinstall FF. But that's just me. :D
[15:35] <mtrd`> Benkinooby, same issue with flash for my part..
[15:35] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder1, i was recommended to that last time i came here with the same/similar problem... it helped for a while
[15:35] <MisterKpak> can i talk?
[15:35] <MisterKpak> YAY
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> MisterKpak:  you can type... :)
[15:35] <MisterKpak> :)
[15:35] <mtrd`> Benkinooby, so i would buy Adobe and make it opensource...
[15:35] <Benkinooby> mtrd`, it alos happens when not using flash
[15:36] <bravo_> how do I edit grub entry to do text only boot?
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> hit e - at the grub menu i belive. think it says it at the bottom of th emenu...
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> replace 'quiet splash' with 'text'  and boot the entry
[15:37] <Benkinooby> my cpu is at 50°C
[15:38] <bravo_> thanks dr willis
[15:38] <Combatjuan> Hello.  I have a lucid box.  I'd like to update alternatives so that crontab -e uses actual vim instead of vim.sucky or vim.really_sucky.  I tried just changing the /usr/bin/editor symlink but that didn't do it.
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> actual vim?  never notced there being a vim.sucky..
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> theres the tiny vim, but installing the full vim replaces it.
[15:39] <jrib> Combatjuan: install actual vim, you will have alternative automatically...
[15:39] <Combatjuan> Dr_Willis: I think they are vim.basic and vim.tiny.  I'm not sure which is tinier.  But neither support all the commands I want.
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> Combatjuan:  the answer is to install the vim full package then
[15:39]  * Sidewinder1 Looks for vim.really_sucky.
[15:40] <Combatjuan> jrib, Dr_Willis: Real vim is installed, it is not a choice when I do "update-alternative --config editor"
[15:40] <jrib> Combatjuan: you want to update the vim alternative
[15:41] <qmr> Why is empathy the default IM client?
[15:41] <viking88> why not
[15:41] <Combatjuan> jrib: Sorry, I don't know how to do that.  It doesn't seem to be "update-alternative --config vim"
[15:41] <jrib> Combatjuan: it is
[15:41] <jpds> Combatjuan: I get vim.nox listed under editor.
[15:41] <Combatjuan> jrib: I mistyped it.  Now I get "There is only one alternative in link group vim: /usr/bin/vim.basic"
[15:41] <jrib> Combatjuan: but editor should also list the vim variants.  How did you install real vim?
[15:42] <Combatjuan> jrib: "apt-get install vim" -> "vim is already the newest version"
[15:42] <skarufue> Combatjuan: update-alternatives not alternative
[15:42] <jrib> Combatjuan: try vim-gtk or vim-gnome
[15:42] <Combatjuan> skarufue: Yeah, that was a typo.
[15:42] <jpds> Combatjuan: sudo apt-get install vim-nox
[15:42] <Combatjuan> jrib: This is a headless machine.
[15:42] <jrib> Combatjuan: vim-nox then
[15:43] <Pius_Fabrica> Anybody available to help with a
[15:43] <Pius_Fabrica> " dylan@DylanX22:~$ sudo apt-get update
[15:43] <Pius_Fabrica> E: Malformed line 62 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[15:43] <Pius_Fabrica> E: The list of sources could not be read."
[15:43] <Pius_Fabrica> Error?
[15:43] <FloodBot1> Pius_Fabrica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:43] <Combatjuan> jpds, jrib, Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[15:43] <user__> installing packages from a folder
[15:43] <user__> please tell any one
[15:44] <ghufran> hi. i can't connect another monitor to my laptop. using 11.04. the external monitor works with other machines. can anyone help?
[15:44] <skarufue> Pius_Fabrica: open /etc/apt/sources.list with root privileges in a editor of your choice look at line 62. does it look like the other lines? if no make it look like the other lines
[15:45] <despoil> deas to test hardware like CPU, RAM, HDD  for Issues  that would cause an ubuntu PC to reboot randomly throughout a day?
[15:45] <despoil> err  *ideas
[15:45] <bravo_> question, can I uninstall nvidia driver using aptitude? ive managed to login in text mode now
[15:45] <Benkinooby> mtrd`, hm... i tried what you said it really seems to depend on the website content displayed... can you verify delayed alt-tabbing and cpu-usage peaks for http://askubuntu.com/questions/48029/investigating-an-ubuntu-10-04-system-freeze
[15:45] <bravo_> need to roll back the nvidia driver
[15:45] <rhin0> maybe vacuum it out and reset all the cards despoil
[15:46] <rhin0> connections
[15:46] <OerHeks> despoil, run memtest86 from the ubuntu-iso to check ram first.
[15:46] <Pius_Fabrica> Skarfue, Its the same as other lines in format : "deb http://archive.cannonical.com/lucid partner"
[15:46] <pmitros> I'd like to set permissions for a (huge) directory tree such that all subdirectories are 777/rwx, but files are 444/r--. Is there a way to do that?
[15:46] <jrib> pmitros: use find
[15:46] <BluesKaj> bravo_, why do yout think you have roll back the driver , if anything you should upgrade it
[15:46] <pmitros> Basically, I want the whole tree to be world-readable, and I'd like users to be able to create files, but I'd like to prevent accidental file modifications, and if possible, deletions.
[15:47] <bravo_> no I want the neavue driver instead
[15:47] <Combatjuan> pmitros, jrib: Why not chmod -R 0777?
[15:47] <Benkinooby> mtrd`, also scrolling on that site is unusable
[15:47] <bravo_> cos that one makes my screen work at least..
[15:47] <despoil> good, thanks
[15:47] <despoil> ...
[15:47] <pmitros> Combat: One sec. Let me check what that does.
[15:47] <pmitros> jrib: Find is a fallback. I wanted to figure out what the Right Way to do it is.
[15:48] <jrib> pmitros: find is the way to do this...
[15:48] <jrib> or use zsh globs...
[15:49] <user__> jrib>please can you say  how can i install packages from folder
[15:49] <Combatjuan> pmitros: I misread your request.  I didn't see that you wanted a difference between directories and child nodes.  jrib is absolutely correct.
[15:49] <jrib> pmitros: but I'm not sure how these permissions accomplish what you wanted
[15:49] <Benkinooby> mtrd`, hm, firefox hadles that site much better
[15:49] <jrib> user__: what do you want to install exactly?
[15:49] <pmitros> Combat: Yeah. I hoped the extra 0 you added at the beginning did something magic, but it didn't.
[15:49] <mtrd`> Benkinooby, scroll bug happens all the time for me
[15:49] <mtrd`> but it's related to flash...
 i want to install deb packages from folder
[15:50] <pmitros> jrib: They don't exactly, but they come as close as I can think of.
[15:50] <Benkinooby> mtrd`, :(
[15:50] <pmitros> jrib: This isn't a security issue. This is a preventing accidents issue.
[15:50] <mtrd`> Benkinooby, may the force be with you
[15:50] <Combatjuan> user__: Like "dpkg -i *.deb" from that folder?
[15:50] <jrib> pmitros: but no one can write to the files and everyone can delete them
[15:50] <Benkinooby> mtrd`, thx
[15:51] <ciphersson> hey i ran remastersys but it said the file was to big..i solve that out but now my computer says there is no disc room left any one know what i can do?
[15:51] <pmitros> jrib: I'd like no one to be able to write to files. That's correct. I'd prefer to avoid accidental deletions, but I don't see a way to do that with Unix permissions, while still permitting users to create files.
[15:51] <Combatjuan> user__: As an aside, It's always best to run "dpkg --simulate -i" first just to make sure things make sense.
add downloaded packages from synaptic package manager
[15:52] <damagednoob> my linux server crashed a minutes ago, what logs should i be looking to give me insight into the problem?
[15:52] <jrib> pmitros: does sticky bit do what you want?
[15:52] <damagednoob> a few minutes*
[15:52] <pmitros> jrib: Possibly, I could place a second directory tree that's 000 with hard links to the first. That would avoid unrecoverable deletions.
[15:52] <user__> jrib>  how can i add downloaded packages from synaptic package manager?
[15:53] <Combatjuan> damagednoob: /var/log/syslog for one
[15:53] <jrib> user__: can you answer my question?
[15:53] <user__> jrib>what
[15:53] <Rigin> hi
[15:53] <jrib> pmitros: I still don't understand exactly what you want to do.  What happens to the files new users create?
[15:53] <jrib> -new
[15:54] <abtekk> Can anyone that has knowledge with configuring touch screens PM me please? :)
[15:54] <Benkinooby> can some1 give me a link to a really, really big image? i suspect firefox having troubles with it
[15:54] <user__> jrib>i want to add downloaded packages from synaptic how can i do it?
[15:54] <jrib> user__: what software do you want to install?  What is its name?
[15:55] <skarufue> Pius_Fabrica: can zou pastebin the file and link it
[15:55] <dorigentoo> hi
[15:55] <abtekk> Can anyone that has knowledge with configuring touch screens PM me please? :)
[15:56] <skarufue> Pius_Fabrica: e.g. http://pastie.org
[15:56] <pmitros> jrib: I don't really care. The application is basically that I have a big catalog of photos. I want those files there forever. The photoediting program I use creates metadata in seperate files (xmp files). I'd like it to be able to create and modify those. If I lose the xmp files, I'm okay. If I change the original photos, I'm not. I've had a bunch of programs which promised to be non-destructive editors do destructive things by accid
[15:56] <dorigentoo> when I run a command followed by &, it will run as a daemon. Is it possible to specify the PID we want to to run one ?
[15:56] <luckybunny> ok... the people at #winehq have passed me back here.. so here it is...
[15:56] <pmitros> jrib: others). I'm basically trying to make sure that no program has permissions to change files, and ideally, to minimize the set of mistakes that either I or my other family members can make.
[15:56] <OerHeks> abtekk try #Ubuntu-touch
[15:56] <xissburg> What is the name of that tool that allows you to add delay to your local ethernet card?
[15:57] <luckybunny> I've been having severely choppy sound in wine.
[15:57] <abtekk> Thanks OerHeks.
[15:57] <whoever> how do you create a symlink that contains the contents of a directory? ie i am trying to sym link /home/<user>/MusIc to /mnt/music . and when i creat the link , i then clinck on /home/<user >/Music. and i have a folder that is "music" i want it to list all the contents of that dir with out the toplevem music folder name
[15:57] <luckybunny> when I say severely, It's like I have a helicopter in front of my speakers
[15:57] <xissburg> I want to simulate internet latency in my local machine
[15:57] <Pius_Fabrica> Managed to fix it, commented out the offending lines and it seems to have resolved the issue, cheers anyways o7
[15:57] <pmitros> jrib: I just read about sticky bit. It appears to do the correct thing.
[15:57] <Pici> whoever: what command are you using to create the link?
[15:57] <damagednoob> the last message before the crash was an 'unexpectedly shrunk window' crash error
[15:57] <pmitros> jrib: Thank you. I didn't know about what it did to directories.
[15:57] <jrib> whoever: how did you create it?
[15:57] <damagednoob> has anyone seen that before?
[15:58] <jrib> pmitros: seems like it should work, yeah
[15:58] <luckybunny> I have tried using padsp, which actually gives me sound, but it's that choppiness
[15:58] <whoever> Pici: ln -s
[15:59] <Pici> whoever: that won't work unless you supply arguments, I wanted to know exactly what you typed.
[15:59] <whoever> Pici:  ln -s /mnt/music/ /home/<user>/Music/
[16:00] <Pici> whoever: and you put your actual user name in place of '<user>' ?
[16:00] <abtekk> Can anyone that has knowledge with configuring touch screens PM me please? :)
[16:00] <user__> jrib> my friend doesnt have i
[16:00] <whoever> Pici: correct
[16:00] <qmr> is there a channel for ubuntu developers?
[16:01] <Pici> whoever: no brackets, right?
[16:01] <abtekk> No brackets.
[16:01] <Combatjuan> whoever, Pici: Sounds like a permissions issue?
[16:01] <whoever> Pici:  correct no braces
[16:01] <mikemarksjr> Hello, I have an issue. I am running Ubuntu Server 10.04 w/ Gnome desktop, and after updating the kernal through Update manager and rebooting. I now cannot boot the OS and have an error message "Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". Please help.
[16:01] <Pici> Combatjuan: possibly, but it shouldn't have been created at all.
[16:02] <IdleOne> !alis | qmr
[16:02] <qmr> mikemarksjr: does the old kernel work?
[16:02] <iuytfr> how to view nfs mounted parititon ?
[16:02] <Pici> whoever: /home/user/Music doesn't already exist, does it?
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> iuytfr:  you mean you mounted a nfs share somewhere?
[16:02] <abtekk> Can anyone that has knowledge with configuring touch screens PM me please? :)
[16:02] <whoever> Pici: yes it does
[16:02] <mikemarksjr> qmr: I don't know how to boot the old kernal. The message pops up immediately
[16:02] <qmr> or you could just tell me the channel?
[16:02] <markkkz> Hello! How do I know my hardware supports ASPM? I want to know because I want to apply the "pcie_aspm=force" temp fix. This to be applied on a notebook.
[16:03] <Pici> whoever: it shouldn't.
[16:03] <whoever> Pici: its an empty dir created bu ubuntu
[16:03] <qmr> mikemarksjr: Don't you have a grub splash screen?
[16:03] <garthounet> join #ubuntu-fr
[16:03] <mikemarksjr> qmr: It doesn't reach the splash screen.
[16:03] <IdleOne> Pici: isn't it /what/to/link/ /where/to/link/it/ seems he has it backwards
[16:03] <Pici> qmr: There are a lot of Ubuntu dev channels, I don't know which you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[16:04] <iuytfr> yes
[16:04] <Xiangjun> Hello
[16:04] <yonij> Hi, help please - how to update to apache 2.2.2
[16:04] <iuytfr> yes Dr_Willis
[16:04] <Pici> IdleOne: its ln -s $target $linkname
[16:04] <yonij> apt-get is still saying 2.2.16 is the newest
[16:04] <iuytfr> nfsmount exist ? Dr_Willis
[16:05] <Pici> yonij: Which release of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:05] <abtekk> Can anyone that has knowledge with configuring touch screens PM me please? :)
[16:05] <IdleOne> abtekk: better to just ask your question and if someone can help they will
[16:05] <yonij> Pici : its a stabbed one , Linux lin5451 2.6.18-028stab077.1 , 10.10 64 bit
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> iuytfr:  if its mounted.. the mount command will show it.
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> iuytfr:  then you go to the directory its mounted to and access it as if it was any other local directory.
[16:06] <abtekk> I have ported Ubuntu 9.10 to my Zenithink ZT-180 but I can't get the touchscreen to act like the mouse. I can calibrate it with ts_calibrate but it wont function as a mouse. Any idea's?
[16:06] <markkkz> Hello! How do I know my hardware supports ASPM? I want to know because I want to apply the "pcie_aspm=force" temp fix. This to be applied on a notebook.
[16:06] <Pici> yonij: I see, well there aren't any newer ones in the repositories as it stands right now. You might be able to find a PPA somewhere though.
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> markkkz:  you could just try that option at the grub menu and see if it works..
[16:07] <Dice-Man> hello people
[16:07] <Noiano> hello
[16:07] <iuytfr> you  mean mount -a ? Dr_Willis
[16:07] <yonij> Pici I actually just need to fix that DOS issue - is it automatically fixed in update ?
[16:07] <Noiano> is it possible to create a file and use it as a mountable filesystem?
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> iuytfr:  no... i mean 'mount'   shows all mounted filesystemns...
[16:07] <yonij> It still says its vulnerable when I checked
[16:07] <markkkz> Dr_Willis: The article says it machine will stop responding. What exactly does that mean? Can I still reboot and take it off GRUB?
[16:07] <abtekk> I have ported Ubuntu 9.10 to my Zenithink ZT-180 but I can't get the touchscreen to act like the mouse. I can calibrate it with ts_calibrate but it wont function as a mouse. Any ideas?
[16:07] <Dice-Man> why i got this when i launch in a terminal the command gstreamer-properties ?? see here http://pastebin.com/pQCRHrBz
[16:08] <Pici> yonij: not that I know of, I was going to poke some people today about it for my own use actually.
[16:08] <Dice-Man> how to install these plugins ?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> markkkz:  you edit the grub menu at boot time. and it only applkies to the next boot... if it messed up.. reboot.
[16:08] <Pici> yonij: You can quickly check a given CVE's status on this site: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/  , so http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-3192.html
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> Noiano:  you can create a filesystem in a 'file' and mount it via the loop option of mount..  a common trick done with iso files..
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[16:09] <markkkz> Dr_Willis: Ok. well my notebook is fairly new. Like bought this year. Is it safe to assume it supports ASPM?
[16:09] <abtekk> I have ported Ubuntu 9.10 to my Zenithink ZT-180 but I can't get the touchscreen to act like the mouse. I can calibrate it with ts_calibrate but it wont function as a mouse and won't respond to touch outside of calibration.. Any ideas?
[16:09] <Noiano> Dr_Willis, what if I want to create a brand new iso file and then mount it as a filesystem?
[16:10] <iuytfr> what is the defaut daemon for sending mail on ubuntu ?
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> Noiano:  that command above  mounts an iso file to a directory.,..
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> markkkz:  No idea.. never heard of aspm befor..  No idea why you want it - if the thing is working properly
[16:11] <Noiano> Dr_Willis, I do not have this iso file, I want to create it...an empty iso file...
[16:11] <abtekk> I have ported Ubuntu 9.10 to my Zenithink ZT-180 but I can't get the touchscreen to act like the mouse. I can calibrate it with ts_calibrate but it wont function as a mouse and won't respond to touch outside of calibration.. Any ideas?
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> Noiano:  you DONT mount an iso file 'writeable'
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> theres specific tools to allow editing of iso files.
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> but ive rarely used them
[16:11] <Noiano> Dr_Willis, I just wanted to emulate a flash drive
[16:11] <markkkz> Dr_Willis: It's for the power regression on Linux kernel starting with .38 currently in use by Natty. This gives a slightly longer battery lifetime.
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Noiano:  you dont want an 'iso' then - you use some other filesustem. not the cd/iso9660 filesystem
[16:12] <Pici> yonij: I just got word that something should land today.
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> markkkz:  so boot up. edit the grub menu.. add the option to the end.. and see if it works
[16:13] <yonij> ah great :), so it would be in the repo soon I guess then
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> is the desktop ubuntu install same as netbook edition?
[16:13] <Noiano> Dr_Willis, Can I read/write using that filesystem?
[16:13] <Pici> yonij: Yep.
[16:13] <abtekk> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[16:13] <markkkz> Dr_Willis: right.... well thanks bud.... ;)
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> markkkz:  quiet splash --- becomes --> quiet splash theoptions
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> abtekk: tnx
[16:13] <luckybunny> how can I disable pulse audio?
[16:13] <abtekk> I have ported Ubuntu 9.10 to my Zenithink ZT-180 but I can't get the touchscreen to act like the mouse. I can calibrate it with ts_calibrate but it wont function as a mouse and won't respond to touch outside of calibration.. Any ideas?
[16:13] <luckybunny> without losing all sound
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> Noiano:  of course..   If you are using somtning like ext2/3/4/vfat/ntfs/whatever... but not iso9660
[16:14] <yonij> Pici: great, just for my knowledge - If at all I get a hit, a restart of apache would fix it right ?
[16:14] <yonij> the memory issue
[16:14] <Pici> yonij: It should.
[16:14] <yonij> ok, cool
[16:15] <abtekk> I have ported Ubuntu 9.10 to my Zenithink ZT-180 but I can't get the touchscreen to act like the mouse. I can calibrate it with ts_calibrate but it wont function as a mouse and won't respond to touch outside of calibration.. Any ideas?
[16:16] <plouffe> abtekk, what does "ported" mean?
[16:16] <bravo_> im really stuck here, ive managed to boot into my ubuntu 10.04 install in recovery text mode, but how do I go on from there reinstalling the Nouveau graphic drivers?
[16:16] <abtekk> plouffe: I compiled it to work on the device as it doesn't natively.
[16:17] <xangua> abtekk: ubuntu 9.10 is not supported
[16:17] <abtekk> It was originally an Android tablet.
[16:17] <abtekk> xangua: I know but the set up would be the same for new versions.
[16:17] <xangua> then i sugest you to try an android rom or keep with your stock rom abtekk
[16:18] <trijntje> abtekk: I've read something about ubuntu + touch here, no idea if its relevant:http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/08/howto-linux-on-dell-inspiron-duo.html
[16:18] <trijntje> I've suddenly lost all emails from my evolution Inbox, but not from any of its subfolders. Any idea how to get them back?
[16:18] <plouffe> xangua, how is an Android room going to help with his Ubuntu install?
[16:18] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. Got a machine that I accidentally cut power to during a windows install as it was formatting the drive. It's an old IDE HDD. I now want to boot an Ubuntu live cd to sort out the HDD but Ubuntu 11.04 won't boot with the HDD connected. Are there any options I can try to get this box booted with the drive attached?
[16:19] <xangua> (11:17:19) abtekk: It was originally an Android tablet. - plouffe
[16:19] <ComradeHaz`> Obviously as it's an IDE disk, attaching after boot isn't an option.
[16:19] <Brutus-> Hi
[16:19] <plouffe> xangua, he wasn't looking for Android support but Ubuntu
[16:20] <Brutus-> How can i start the sbackup's gui from terminal?
[16:20] <xangua> plouffe: and 9.10 is not suported either
[16:20] <plouffe> xangua, "originally" meaning he had wiped the Android and replaced it with Ubuntu
[16:20] <plouffe> so the Android support room would be utterly useless
[16:20] <triptec> does debian 6 have never pakages than 10.04 or is ubuntu still more fresh?
[16:21] <tf_> howdy, quick question i'm using lubuntu and was wondering how to install the graphical add / remove application?
[16:22] <ComradeHaz`> tf_: which one?
[16:22] <ComradeHaz`> Synaptic?
[16:23] <tf_> yeah comes preinstalled in normal ubuntu
[16:23] <tf_> it just makes finding apps way more easy then apt-get
[16:23] <ComradeHaz`> tf_: if so, get yourself a terminal up and do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:23] <itilious> why must i disable my firewall to print to my wireless hp photosmart printer?
[16:24] <xangua> tf_: if you mean software center, intall the software-center package :P
[16:24] <tf_> lol aight thanks!
[16:24] <ComradeHaz`> tf_: or that xD
[16:24] <Brutus-> How can i start the sbackup's gui from terminal?
[16:24]  * ComradeHaz` doesn't use gui package mangers,
[16:25] <Brutus-> Or, my side and top bars are disappear. How can i restore they?
[16:25] <peragrate> Hi everyone. I need some help.
[16:25] <peragrate> The problem is complicated (to me) and the forum list is here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837199
[16:26] <peragrate> I'm gonna loose my shirt if I can't get help with this.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> at least summarize the issue peragrate.
[16:28] <peragrate> is anyone here an expert at configuring Ubuntu?
[16:28] <beniwtv> Any news about Oneiric Beta? Still not out...
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> !schedule
[16:28] <xangua> !oneiric | peragrate
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> it will be out when its out. :)
[16:28] <peragrate> sure.
[16:29] <xangua> that was for beniwtv ;)
[16:29] <peragrate> I have a phone that has never had a problem connecting to my computer. It's a generic phone and doesn't require drivers. You simply plug it in and a window pops open. This is how it normally works.
[16:30] <Marla> Hello!
[16:30] <peragrate> I have tried for four hours now and the computer won't connect to the phone. I can't get the data I need off the phone.
[16:31] <Marla> Please help mr on my Qiyze exam!_)
[16:31] <peragrate> I've tried everything. booting to live cd, software installs, checking the phone settings 5 times, fdisk can't find it, lsusb can't find it.
[16:32] <LurchiderLurch> Hello! I tried to follow a tutorial to install the old xv on Ubuntu and I am stuck on the last step
[16:32] <philinux> peragrate: try it on a windows machine if you can and it's that important.
[16:32] <LurchiderLurch> peragrate, what kind of phone?
[16:32] <peragrate> Yet when I boot up with it plugged in, on the phone end, it recognizes the computer and asks me if I want to initiate a mass storage or com port session. I've tried them all.
[16:33] <philinux> peragrate: or if the data is on a removable crad try a card reader
[16:33] <peragrate> I was about to give up when I noticed that network manager was detecting the phone as a possible cellular connection: but it's grayed out and can't be accessed.
[16:33] <LurchiderLurch> ah, on http://olivers.posterous.com/build-xv-on-ubuntu there is the tutorial
[16:33] <peragrate> So the phone is detected by Ubuntu on some level, and it charges when plugged into the computer, but I can't interface with it as a user...
[16:33] <philinux> peragrate: try disconnecting the internate and try
[16:33] <Marla> I need the script that prints a list of shells installed in the system, but do not use as a starter by any user.
[16:33] <tf_> ComradeHaz`, thanks the software center was exactly what I was looking for!
[16:33] <LurchiderLurch> In the target directory there are the requested files  with ".c" at the end. What might I do?
[16:34]  * amal029 --->check
[16:34] <glebaron> peragrate, how many different computers have you plugged the phone into?
[16:34] <ComradeHaz`> tf_: no worries :)
[16:34] <LurchiderLurch> peragrate, what kind of phone? Is it an android phone?
[16:34] <w30> LurchiderLurch, there are lots of .deb and source files for xv. Some work and some don't. I keep trying different ones until one works
[16:34] <peragrate> In the last month month and a variety of windows computer (maybe two or three) at internet cafes near my house...
[16:35] <luckybunny> I've been having severely choppy sound in wine.
[16:35] <Antonio007> is this the proper place for help on ndiswrapper compilation?
[16:35] <g3orge> hey guys
[16:35] <g3orge> I'm ssh-ed in a server.
[16:35] <g3orge> What's the command to see the (My)SQL version?
[16:35] <peragrate> No. It's an generic chinese phone. I think I said that as long as I've owned this phone, with this ubuntu install, I've never had problems.
[16:35] <LurchiderLurch> peragrate, what kind of phone?
[16:35] <w30> LurchiderLurch, there is even one with staticly linked libs, libs included with install file
[16:35] <luckybunny> #winehq directed me back here, as it's a pulseaudio thing, not a wine thing
[16:36] <LurchiderLurch> peragrate, what kind of OS System is on that phone?
[16:36] <peragrate> But the system is acting a little funny. For example, one day I woke up and tried to access a folder throught the "Places" menu: everything in that menu now opens with VLC!!! I have no idea how to fix that either.
[16:36] <bluebomber> Are user crontabs run in Ubuntu even when the user's not logged in?
[16:36] <Tinkerer1> hey quick question: enabled ufw but forgot to open ssh port, now i rebooted and cant login :( am i screwed?
[16:37] <gin> ola
[16:37] <LurchiderLurch> peragrate, can't you simply take a memory card out of the phone?
[16:37] <orated> Anyone knows a decent place for hard drive data recovery??
[16:37] <seivan> Anyone know of an application that can split a 5 pages PDF into 5 separate PDFS command line?
[16:37] <dr-willis> peragrate:  seen fixs fir that at some sites. the file assiocation for folders got set to be vlv
[16:37] <peragrate> I don't know about the OS. I really don't know much about phones. It was bought in Asia, but as I said, I've never had any software issues or connection issues before and I've never used any software between the phone and computer at all. ever.
[16:37] <beniwtv> Tinkerer1: You will need some kind of virtual console access to the system, or be physically at the system.
[16:37] <jrib> seivan: pdftk probably can
[16:37] <luckybunny> anyone?
[16:38] <peragrate> It's 11:30 pm here. I can't go buy additional hardware right now.
[16:38] <peragrate> I really don't think it's hardware guys.
[16:38] <peragrate> Hal is recognizing the mobile.
[16:38] <Tinkerer1> beniwtv: ah ok im gonna log into my vps control panel i thought vnc was available option ill have a look
[16:38] <peragrate> There's a screen shot of network manager identifying the phone on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837199
[16:38] <dr-willis> luckybunny:  restate the problem fir the channel
[16:38] <Antonio007> any help available for ndiswrapper?
[16:39] <fn> Tinkerer1: you should have console access
[16:39] <beniwtv> peragrate: Anything in dmesg?
[16:39] <fn> from the vps control panel
[16:39] <luckybunny> I've been having severely choppy sound in wine, and #winehq directed me back here to try to configure ALSA and pulseaudio to get those working better
[16:39] <peragrate> let's try: dmesg by itself or dmesg | usb? What should I type?
[16:40] <beniwtv> peragrate: type in dmesg once, then plug in the phone and do another dmesg and see the new lines
[16:40] <peragrate> ok
[16:40] <beniwtv> peragrate: maybe we can find out if it uses mass storage or something else (mass storage would be a lot easier)
[16:41] <luckybunny> I have tried running the wine programs under padsp, but that's what allows me to hear anything at all... albeit so choppy that all sound is impossible to tolerate
[16:41] <peragrate> Result phone unplugged: Should we go into a private chat? because the output of dmesg is very very long: lots of: [ 2405.641331] fxz-hw_cdc_ioctl: callec
[16:41] <hilosolo> !list
[16:41] <beniwtv> peragrate: use a pastenbin site
[16:42] <peragrate> mass storage would be great. This phone usually just opens like any other usb stuck.
[16:42] <rymate1234> Hello, I am having a small problem with nautilus
[16:43] <rymate1234> when i transfer a file to a server via the connect to server feature, it disconnects after transferring the file
[16:44] <luckybunny> I know it's not the program itself, as others seem to have no problem wine-ing it
[16:44] <luckybunny> and I myself didn't yesterday
[16:44] <peragrate> OK. I've never used pastebin before. So here's what I did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/679912/ (Phone Unplugged)
[16:44] <RobinJ> i need windows applciations on my computer  for school tasks, and these (office 2010, visual studio 2010) do not run using wine... what's my best option? Citrix seems a good solution but it's bloody expensive...
[16:44] <luckybunny> RobinJ: for Office, I recommend using libreoffice
[16:45] <rymate1234> RobinJ, Use OpenOffice
[16:45] <rymate1234> or libreoffice
[16:45] <RobinJ> sigh
[16:45] <RobinJ> i'vz got libreoffice, but the visual studio is the greatest problem
[16:45] <RobinJ> no monodevelop is not an option
[16:45] <rymate1234> RobinJ, Boot into windows :3
[16:45] <RobinJ> yuk xd
[16:46] <hplpb> RobinJ: virtualbox > windows > visual studio?
[16:46] <luckybunny> yeah. I'd say for VS, your best bet is probably a Win VM
[16:46] <RobinJ> a virtual machine is incredibly slow, and i havent got enough hard disk space anyway to just install it.
[16:46] <peragrate> Results with phone plugged in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/679915/
[16:46] <mosdef100200> Hi there anyone used bumpbox (which is a type of lightbox) i need some advice with setting classes
[16:47] <RobinJ> a VM  can be put on my 16GB USB drive though, but the fact remains that its incredibly slow
[16:47] <jaybutts> can anyone help me with setting up vpn connection, says unable to connect now after i have install openvpn , im using the network manager to do it
[16:47] <jaybutts> connection failed
[16:48] <houkouonchi-home> anyone here really familiar with mdadm?
[16:48] <peragrate> I just had an idea. I use a sim card to connect to the internet through a cellular dongle. I'm going to disconnect, switch sims, and see if the dongle will give me access...
[16:52] <beniwtv> peragrate: There's nothing in the dmesg log, you will have to connect it for that
[16:53] <RobinJ> huh
[16:53] <RobinJ> i thought beta 1 would be released today?
[16:53] <Knightmare> Just installed ubuntu on a pc and am having problems with wifi and sound, wifi works occassionally and im getting no sound at all, anyone willing to help?
[16:53] <RobinJ> the alpha3 has been removed from cdimage.ubuntu.com and there's a folder called beta 1... but its empty! :|
[16:54] <beniwtv> RobinJ: Yeah, we are all waiting :)
[16:54] <RobinJ> xd
[16:54] <trism> RobinJ: the topic will be updated in #ubuntu+1 when it is out
[16:54] <IdleOne> RobinJ: 11.10 in #ubuntu+1
[16:54] <RobinJ> but it will be today, right? or did i get it wrong?
[16:54] <IdleOne> it will be when it is.
[16:55] <RobinJ> if you need seperate channels for every subject, then why is there a normal #ubuntu? :p
[16:55] <hwilde> que sera sera
[16:55] <suigeneris> hi
[16:55] <saberclaw> hello world
[16:55] <suigeneris> I have a problem
[16:55] <saberclaw> debcon
[16:55] <IdleOne> RobinJ: because this channel is to support the released and still supported versions of Ubuntu.
[16:55] <hwilde> !ask | suigeneris
[16:56] <RobinJ> xd
[16:56] <damno> the indicator that lets you set online/offline as is im status is missing
[16:56] <xangua> damno: right clic in panel-add-indicator
[16:56] <suigeneris> I have 10.04 on my VPS, and I have to start vsftpd every time it reboots. I have the links in /etc/init.d/
[16:57] <suigeneris> why would that happen?
[16:57] <hwilde> suigeneris,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/563973
[16:57] <suigeneris> I did update-rc.d vsftpd defaults several time
[16:57] <damno> xangua: doesn't work
[16:58] <damno> xangua: I can set status only from within empathy now
[17:00] <peragrate> I'm back. Any suggestions please?
[17:00] <g3orge> What's the command to see the (My)SQL version?
[17:01] <meta_coder> g3orge: try mysql -v
[17:01] <Olleh> select version();
[17:01] <peragrate> Hello?
[17:02] <suigeneris> hwilde: thanks
[17:02] <meta_coder> peragrate: What do you need?
[17:03] <chris215> hey, can someone point me to the correct channel to find assistance for simple java developement?
[17:03] <chris215> or am i in the right placE?
[17:03] <dephyre> Hey guys! Just got OnLive fully working in Wine! WHOOOOOO!
[17:03] <peragrate> I had a group of people helping me... they asked me to pastebin... now their gone.
[17:03] <peragrate> It's the phone thing
[17:04] <beniwtv> peragrate: no, still here :), we need now a pastebin after you connected the phone
[17:04] <peragrate> Hi there. Thanks. Did that: Results with phone plugged in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/679915/
[17:05] <beniwtv> peragrate: I don't see any USB connection notices
[17:05] <suigeneris> hwilde: it says the bug has been fixed in 2.2.2-3-ubuntu6 and I am using that
[17:05] <peragrate> The dong;e idea didn't work. It only open a folder for the dongles firmware... not the sim data.
[17:05] <peragrate> That's my point.
[17:05] <peragrate> The phone is catagorically not being identified.
[17:06] <peragrate> But give me a second to post a screen shot... check this out...
[17:06] <beniwtv> peragrate: Is it USB?
[17:06] <peragrate> yes
[17:06] <kwrigh01> Need help with sound control issue with dell studio laptop ... the buttons don't increase/decrease sound ... thanks in advance
[17:06] <hwilde> suigeneris, u got the right version of vsftpd?   did you try removing and reinstalling it
[17:06] <peragrate> darn. I can't pastebin images...
[17:07] <hwilde> imagebin
[17:07] <suigeneris> hwilde: many times
[17:07] <peragrate> This thread, on page two at the end, has the screen shot. Hal is identify my phone but the user interface and command line are not: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837199
[17:07] <peragrate> going to image bin
[17:08] <houkouonchi-home> lol rsync CPU usage is bottenecking my transfer...
[17:08] <desti> https://annorath-game.com/index.php/de/alpha-registration <--- new mmoprg
[17:08] <Olleh> houkouonchi-home: disable compression
[17:09] <houkouonchi-home> its not enabled unless it is by default
[17:09] <ubun`> is it possible that i could have installed some kind of keylogger or something like that while trying to install another program? (i got my credit card #stolen) so im trying to eliminate possibilities
[17:09] <Olleh> ah, no.. you need to specify compression. Its just i ran into the same problem.. network was too fast, and compression/cpu was the bottleneck.
[17:09] <peragrate> http://imagebin.org/170591
[17:09] <houkouonchi-home> Olleh: not even doing this over the network, just going from one block device to another =(
[17:09] <houkouonchi-home> cp was going almost twice as fast
[17:10] <Olleh> hah
[17:10] <beniwtv> peragrate: That's odd - if NM finds it there must be something in dmesg
[17:10] <peragrate> It's possible that it's recognizing the dongle and the sim inside the dongle as two separate things, but that seems weird.
[17:10] <houkouonchi-home>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S PU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[17:10] <houkouonchi-home> 13874 root      20   0 11576  616  264 R   97  0.0   0:05.86 rsync
[17:10] <houkouonchi-home> 13872 root      20   0 11912 1064  864 R   84  0.0   0:05.01 rsync
[17:10] <peragrate> right!
[17:10] <FloodBot1> houkouonchi-home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <beniwtv> peragrate: yes, that would be weird
[17:10] <houkouonchi-home> heh it was only 3 lines
[17:10] <peragrate> Excuse me while I continue smashing my head against the wall
[17:10] <suigeneris> !pastebin | houkouonchi-home
[17:10] <houkouonchi-home> suigeneris: man it was 3 lines lol
[17:11] <suigeneris> FloodBot1 warned ypu, right?
[17:11] <suigeneris> you*
[17:11] <peragrate> there's nothing in dmesg, lsusb, or fdisk
[17:11] <houkouonchi-home> yes. I don't really consider 3 lines flooding though. I probably would have used pastebin if it was over that though
[17:12] <beniwtv> peragrate: that is some very odd problem you have - I never seen any USB device not detected in dmesg
[17:12] <kwrigh01> Need help with sound control issue with dell studio laptop running ubuntu 11.04... the buttons don't increase/decrease sound ... thanks in advance
[17:12] <peragrate> I think someone has put a hex on my tech department. Everything is failing without reason... even "Places" opens VLC! etc.
[17:13] <peragrate> ANd I'll be darned is I can get the clamav-daemon to start!
[17:13] <beniwtv> peragrate: um...
[17:13] <peragrate> silly speculation.. just buying time and hoping someone else get a bright lightbulb.
[17:14] <peragrate> I wonder if something has inflitrated the system. Somekind of virus that changing settings or blocking things
[17:14] <rabbi1> How can I update "Artist, Album, and Genre" automatically from Rthythmbox?
[17:15] <peragrate> I have a firewall up but I'm not an expert at detecting backdoors
[17:15] <suigeneris> hwilde: do you have an idea for me?
[17:17] <ex-demon> как подключится к русскому каналу
[17:17] <Pici> peragrate: Change the 'open with' properties for a folder to nautilus from vlc
[17:17] <Pici> !ru | ex-demon
[17:17] <ubun`> is it possible that i could have installed some kind of keylogger or something like that while trying to install another program? (i got my credit card #stolen) so im trying to eliminate possibilities
[17:17] <Pici> ubun`: not if you're using the official Ubuntu repositories.
[17:17] <edbian> ubun`: If you install things from the repo only it is extremely unlikely
[17:18] <hwilde> suigeneris, use proftpd? :)
[17:18] <edbian> ubun`: If you are installing things you downloaded from the Web than it is more likely (but still rare cause you're using linux)
[17:18] <ubun`> pici: edbian: i figured... but im just making sure
[17:18] <edbian> ubun`: People who write keyloggers etc often do not expect their victims to be using linux and compiling software.
[17:18] <edbian> ubun`: sure :)
[17:19] <rabbi1> How can I update "Artist, Album, and Genre" automatically from Rthythmbox?
[17:19] <beniwtv> rabbi1: You mean batch-updating?
[17:19] <meta_coder> what should I change in xchat.conf file to hide all the join/quit notifications?
[17:20] <rabbi1> beniwtv: yeah, kind off., i have some huge collection of songs, but doesn't have artist, genre, album on few...
[17:20] <chompg> hello, where can i find firefox 3.6? (which package?)
[17:20] <beniwtv> rabbi1: Try EasyTag if you have the info in the filenames or picard from musicbrainz for batch updating
[17:21] <beniwtv> rabbi1: AFAIK Rythmbox only has rudimentary editing
[17:21] <rabbi1> beniwtv: picard is a all new app
[17:22] <beniwtv> rabbi1: No, has been around for quite some time
[17:22] <suigeneris> chompg: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
[17:22] <rabbi1> beniwtv: i mean, i got install another? i already got rhythmbox, vlc. any other alternative, if you can think of now ?
[17:23] <chompg> thanks
[17:23] <beniwtv> rabbi1: No, I'm afraid you need to install something to do it. Or update with rhythmbox one by one, but that's tedious :P
[17:24] <gumus> hi all
[17:24] <rabbi1> beniwtv: i am not even getting 1by1 option
[17:24] <camden> hi everyone.
[17:24] <beniwtv> rabbi1: right-click, properties IIRC
[17:24] <gumus> I'm trying to activate my camera for skype but my  computer doesn't recognize it. Do you have any idea to fix it ?
[17:24] <Christoffer> I just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and padevchooser doesn't start any longer when I run it. Is this i a known bug?
[17:24] <rabbi1> beniwtv: that way? that's horible
[17:25] <beniwtv> rabbi1: That's why I said "rudimentary"...
[17:25] <camden> I'm trying to set up xrdp on my 11.04 machine, and while it's working, I cannot get the password dialog to open, for example when running synaptic
[17:25] <happygolucky> camden: camden, new jersey?
[17:26] <camden> happygolucky: nah, just Camden. it's my given name.
[17:26] <rabbi1> beniwtv: will check out for some plugin, incase available
[17:26] <rabbi1> beniwtv: thank you
[17:27] <gumus> guys
[17:28] <gumus> does anyone has any idea for it ?
[17:28] <Aiax> join #ubuntu-nl
[17:28] <gumus> how can I make ubuntu recognize my built-in camera ?
[17:28] <gumus> I need to skype
[17:31] <simontol> Hi, is it possible to share an internet connection by 2 PCs (both with ubuntu) without a router?
[17:32] <camden> I'm trying to set up xrdp on my 11.04 machine, and while it's working, I cannot get the password dialog to open, for example when running synaptic
[17:32] <rumpe1> simontol, yes. "firestarter" is a tool for connection-sharing for beginners (i guess)
[17:32] <beniwtv> simontol: yes, how are they connected?
[17:32] <kwrigh01> Need help with sound control issue with dell studio laptop running ubuntu 11.04... the buttons don't increase/decrease sound ... any takers?
[17:33] <gumus> guys
[17:33] <gumus> ubuntu doesn't recognize laptop's camera
[17:33] <simontol> rumpe1 : I knew something about firestarter, but I need to configure wireless connection on both PCs first
[17:33] <beniwtv> simontol: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[17:33] <beniwtv> (this is with firestarter)
[17:33] <josephwegner> Hi all - I'm running Ubuntu 10.10.  For some reason, every once in awhile my network connection on Ubuntu gets all messed up.  It still technically says that I have a connection but I can't ping any websites or local computers.  I've tried different cables, different routers, and even booted into windows and had a connection fine.  Any ideas?
[17:34] <beniwtv> josephwegner: what connection type?
[17:34] <josephwegner> beniwtv, hard line
[17:35] <beniwtv> josephwegner: ethernet?
[17:35] <simontol> thanks, but I know how to do it on wired network, I'm looking for help to configure a wireless network
[17:35] <josephwegner> beniwtv, yeah, sry.
[17:35] <beniwtv> simontol: use the network applet, there should be an option to "create a network"
[17:35] <beniwtv> then just connect to it with the other computer
[17:36] <Elven___> It would be greatly appreciated If anyone could provide some information/guide/tutorial/anything about setting up a dial-up connection on 11.04, thanks in advance
[17:36] <beniwtv> josephwegner: if the drop-out happens, do you still see an IP address on the interface?
[17:36] <josephwegner> beniwtv, yep - I have a static IP..  still says I've got it
[17:37] <beniwtv> josephwegner: have you checked the dmesg command for any error messages there?
[17:37] <katesmith> hey i just want to know if i am allowed to pist the video games of my son, he does some awsome video games with you tube
[17:37] <josephwegner> beniwtv, ehh, no.  Is there anything specific I should grep for, or just scan for errors?
[17:37] <katesmith> post
[17:37] <katesmith> http://www.youtube.com/monroesmith
[17:37] <beniwtv> josephwegner: I would just scan for errors
[17:38] <chandan> hi I want to get default login session to terminal rather than gui.. how do i get it ?
[17:38] <beniwtv> josephwegner: just to see if there is anything that comes up
[17:38] <OerHeks> !ot
[17:38] <OerHeks> katesmith, please join #Ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[17:39] <katesmith> oh thankyou OerHeks
[17:40] <josephwegner> beniwtv, nothing terribly interesting.  The only network-related error said that there were no no IPv6 routers present.. but that shouldn't matter..?
[17:40] <beniwtv> josephwegner: no, that message is harmless
[17:41] <josephwegner> beniwtv, well it does say this: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[17:41] <josephwegner> beniwtv, that's directly before teh IPv6 message
[17:41] <beniwtv> josephwegner: any messages about "link down"?
[17:41] <gumus> can anybody help me with built-in camera problem ? Ubuntu doesn't recognize my laptop's camera
[17:41] <katesmith> thankyou for letting me know OerHeks
[17:41] <josephwegner> beniwtv, lots of them on SATA drives..  one that says eth0 link is not ready, then followed by that one about the link becoming ready
[17:41] <camden> ok I've narrowed my problem down: when the password prompt shows up, I think it's showing up on the wrong display
[17:42] <camden> any way to configure where the prompt shows up?
[17:42] <beniwtv> josephwegner: ok, are these repeating?
[17:42] <mephist0> has someone installed succesfully chrome os on 256MB RAM system?
[17:42] <josephwegner> beniwtv, no, just one of each
[17:42] <beniwtv> josephwegner: ok, then we can rule out cable and speed signaling problems
[17:42] <josephwegner> beniwtv, check :)
[17:43] <beniwtv> josephwegner: now, if you try deactivating the interface and then activating it again do you get Internet again?
[17:45] <dttys> Hi;
[17:45] <dttys> I was trying to install a patched driver, so i updgraded my kernel-headers with apt-get. I ended up with 2 kernel-header folders, one was the obsolete one. i was then advised to run:
[17:45] <dttys> apt-get remove linux-headers prepare-kernel-sources
[17:45] <dttys> Then i went to usr/src and i had 2 versions of linux-source
[17:45] <dttys> what can be wrong, and how can i fix this? (already tried rebooting and autoremove)
[17:45] <FloodBot1> dttys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <josephwegner_> beniwtv, sorry, laptop mysteriously unplugged itself and died.  Missed everything after my last message,.
[17:46] <beniwtv> josephwegner: ok, if you try deactivating the interface and then activating it again do you get Internet again?
[17:48] <josephwegner_> beniwtv, what is the command to deactivate the interface?
[17:49] <beniwtv> josephwegner_: try sudo ifdown <interface> then sudo ifup <interface>
[17:51] <josephwegner> beniwtv, hmm.  The interface would usually be eth0, right?  it's saying "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=etho."
[17:51] <LurchiderLurch> Hello! I tried to follow a tutorial to install the old xv on Ubuntu and I am stuck on the last step
[17:51] <beniwtv> josephwegner: depends, try sudo ifconfig to see
[17:51] <LurchiderLurch> ah, on http://olivers.posterous.com/build-xv-on-ubuntu there is the tutorial
[17:51] <josephwegner> beniwtv, yeah, ifconfig shows eth0 and lo
[17:51] <LurchiderLurch> In the target directory there are the requested files  with ".c" at the end. What might I do?
[17:52] <beniwtv> josephwegner: are you using NetworkManager?
[17:52] <josephwegner> beniwtv, nope.
[17:52] <josephwegner> beniwtv, also, now ifdown says "interface eth0 not configured"
[17:52] <beniwtv> josephwegner: how did you configure the interface?
[17:52] <SIFTU> josephwegner: what do you want to do?? set a static IP?
[17:53] <SIFTU> josephwegner: "sudo ifconfig eth0 inet <IP> netmask <mask> up"
[17:53] <josephwegner> SIFTU, my internet connection randomly gets lost.  Ubuntu still says link is up, and the same cable/switch/router combination works in windows
[17:53] <josephwegner> beniwtv, well, for that I used Network Connections (the default for Ubuntu.  I would imagine we are talking about the same thing)
[17:54] <beniwtv> josephwegner: yes, that's NetworkManager
[17:54] <SIFTU> josephwegner: and when it doesnt work what does "ifconfig eth0" tell you
[17:54] <josephwegner> beniwtv, ah.  then yes
[17:54] <josephwegner> SIFTU, everything looks normal in ifconfig
[17:54] <beniwtv> josephwegner: so you can just click the connection icon, click "disconnect" then select the configuration to connect
[17:54] <beniwtv> josephwegner: that'll do the same as ifdown and ifup
[17:55] <SIFTU> josephwegner: so you have IP address etc, and your default route exists in "netstat -rn"
[17:55] <josephwegner> beniwtv, no luck
[17:55] <beniwtv> SIFTU: He can not even ping other computers, that's the strange thing
[17:56] <beniwtv> josephwegner: So Internet hasn't returned when you did that?
[17:56] <SIFTU> ah ok, on the same network.. josephwegner what network card?
[17:56] <josephwegner> SIFTU, hmm..  netstat has some odd output.  Let me paste it...
[17:56] <__serial> Automated ubuntu update script! Cleans old updates and more!: wget http://updateubuntu.webs.com/Update.py && chmod a+x Update.py && ./Update.py
[17:56] <josephwegner> beniwtv, no it did not
[17:56] <josephwegner> SIFTU, oh.. can't paste it, cause I don't have internet :)
[17:56] <josephwegner> SIFTU, wtv card is default in Compaq Elite 8200
[17:56] <h00k> !danger
[17:56] <beniwtv> josephwegner: ok, something strange then in your routes or the network chip driver is borked
[17:57] <SIFTU> josephwegner: "lscpi |grep -i net"
[17:57] <josephwegner> SIFTU, netstat doesn't have a gateway set for my local network.. but it does have the correct gateway for the network with destination "<IP_ADDRESS>
[17:57] <SIFTU> beniwtv: cant be routes if he cant ping comps on the same lan
[17:57] <josephwegner> SIFTU, Intel 8257SIFTU, oh.. can't paste it, cause I don't have interne9LM Gigabit Nic
[17:58] <beniwtv> SIFTU: depends, there needs to be a route to the local lan with localhost (*) as gw
[17:58] <josephwegner> umm sorry
[17:58] <josephwegner> SIFTU, Intel 82579LM Gigabit NIC
[17:58] <beniwtv> josephwegner: what routes do you have currently?
[17:59] <josephwegner> beniwtv, interesting.  Now I can ping on the same lan
[17:59] <josephwegner> SIFTU, see above :)
[17:59] <josephwegner> beniwtv, sorry to be difficult.  What command to see my routes?
[17:59] <beniwtv> josephwegner: netstat -nr
[17:59] <lednylo> if i have installed a new video card and X windows wont boot [ubuntu 10.10] how can i get back into X Windows without re-installing ubuntu?
[17:59] <lednylo> i can get a command prompt
[18:00] <djfjdjsjsk>  Awesome! Automated Update script for UBUNTU!!!  Automated Update script for UBUNTU!!! Cleans old updates and more!!: wget http://updateubuntu.webs.com/Update.py && chmod a+x Update.py && ./Update.py
[18:00] <djfjdjsjsk>  Awesome! Automated Update script for UBUNTU!!! Cleans old updates and more!!: wget http://updateubuntu.webs.com/Update.py && chmod a+x Update.py && ./Update.py
[18:00] <josephwegner> beniwtv, 3rd:  <IP_ADDRESS>    <IP_ADDRESS>    <IP_ADDRESS>    UG    same as above
[18:01] <josephwegner> beniwtv, and that's it.  Looks like the first route doesn't have any gateway set
[18:01] <h00k> !danger
[18:01] <Pici> !danger
[18:01] <neil_m> high voltage
[18:01] <Aquix_> on the dancefloor
[18:01] <SIFTU> josephwegner: strange mask too
[18:01] <beniwtv> josephwegner: no, it's ok, it has <IP_ADDRESS> as route, to your local net
[18:01] <Pici> neil_m, Aquix_: heh
[18:01] <neil_m> ;)
[18:01] <josephwegner> SIFTU, the mask is correct, <IP_ADDRESS> is intentional
[18:01] <Aquix_> let's start a war
[18:01] <beniwtv> josephwegner: the strange part is the 169.... which is avahi autoconf
[18:02] <SIFTU> josephwegner: ah ok
[18:02] <josephwegner> beniwtv..  avahi.  Never heard of it
[18:02] <SIFTU> josephwegner: and just to clarify this is static right, not dhcp
[18:02]  * meta_coder wants ChanServ to give him operator status
[18:02] <josephwegner> SIFTU, correct
[18:02] <meta_coder> What are modes of a channel?
[18:02] <beniwtv> josephwegner: avahi should not be the problem though
[18:03] <beniwtv> josephwegner: just a question, why 192.2?
[18:03] <josephwegner> beniwtv, Old old network admin.  We have no idea why :)
[18:03] <josephwegner> brb...
[18:03] <beniwtv> josephwegner: or, to rephrase, on the internal network you should have 192.168.x
[18:03] <h00k> meta_coder: you can check with freenode documentation, or ask in #freenode
[18:03] <suigeneris> meta_coder: #freenode
[18:04] <SIFTU> josephwegner: /etc/network/interfaces looks something like this? (with your own IPS) http://pastebin.com/yg8iPgX6
[18:04] <beniwtv> SIFTU: he's using NM
[18:04] <Erst> Hi
[18:04] <SIFTU> beniwtv: so am I
[18:04] <Erst> How can I set up brigde over PPPoE?
[18:04] <beniwtv> SIFTU: NM does not touch /etc/network/interfaces
[18:05] <josephwegner> back
[18:05] <Gredeu> i'm a very basic newbie at partitioning and i might be getting a SSD drive today.  the SSD drive will contain only /   its 64GB.  i know swap can't be on it.  np.  are there other directories for a SSD that size that would be useful to have and not reformat ?  home will be on moving parts drive
[18:05] <beniwtv> josephwegner: can you do an arp -n?
[18:06] <josephwegner> SIFTU, that file has two lines.. one says "auto lo"  the other says "iface lo inet loopback"
[18:06] <SIFTU> beniwtv: then why did you say to use ifup and if down?
[18:06] <SIFTU> beniwtv: "man interfaces"
[18:06] <beniwtv> SIFTU: because I hadn't established he was using NM
[18:06] <josephwegner> beniwtv, two lines.  First is "<IP_ADDRESS>  ether  M:A:C:X;X;X;X;X C      eth0
[18:07] <josephwegner> beniwtv, the second is "<IP_ADDRESS>    ether M:A;C:0:0;0:0   C   etho"
[18:07] <beniwtv> josephwegner: sounds right, too
[18:07] <SIFTU> etho
[18:08] <SIFTU> etho doesnt sound right
[18:08] <josephwegner> SIFTU, eth0.. sorry
[18:08] <Erst> I have modem with is set up on bridge mode atm (I need to set it up like this get use of external IP). I've setted up like they sad on info page, but now I need to set up Linux machine to get this IP. I have my PPPoE login/pass. People on phone from my ISP told me that I need to set up bridge on (or over) PPPoE to get it work.
[18:08] <SIFTU> ok
[18:08] <Erst> Anyone can help?
[18:08] <josephwegner> SIFTU, type too fast for my own good
[18:08] <beniwtv> josephwegner: the only strange this about this is the 192.2.x range, but I can not imagine any reason this should exhibit this problem
[18:08] <SIFTU> josephwegner: thats ok
[18:08] <camden> anybody? xrdp using xrdp but password prompt doesn't show when trying to run administrative tasks?
[18:08] <josephwegner> beniwtv, it never has caused problems in the past.  We've been on that network for years and years
[18:09] <Zotac> hi guys
[18:09] <beniwtv> josephwegner: sure, that's why I can't think of any problem. Though you would not be able to access any web sites or services in the 192.2.x range
[18:09] <Zotac> i have some problems with grub, can anybody help me?
[18:09] <josephwegner> beniwtv, oh boy - is that a valid external IP range?  I suppose I should have that conversation with my boss sometime soon
[18:10] <Zotac> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 in sda3 partition
[18:10] <Zotac> after that, i have installed gnewsense distro in sda1
[18:10] <beniwtv> josephwegner: yes, that's a valid range
[18:10] <Zotac> gnewsense has putted an old grub in my mbr, and dont see ubuntu partition
[18:11] <beniwtv> josephwegner: but as I said I do not think this is the source of your problem
[18:11] <Zotac> i have stolen gnewsense partition (sda1) and now grub say: grub rescue>
[18:11] <Zotac> i need to boot sda3 with my ubuntu 11.04 partition
[18:12] <Zotac> any idea?
[18:12] <glebihan> Zotac, boot on a live CD and reinstall grub from there
[18:12] <hat0> hey all.  anyone know anything about getting ubuntu to recognize the wireless built into a new mac mini?
[18:12] <josephwegner> beniwtv, any more ideas, or am I pretty much just sitting this one out till it works again?
[18:13] <glebihan> Zotac, you'll find instructions on how to do that there : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[18:13] <Zotac> hi glebihan, i have made it, i have boot with a ubuntu 11.04 live, i have maked root, i have maked: grub-install /dev/sda
[18:13] <beniwtv> josephwegner: not really, it sounds like the driver, maybe check google for issues with the chipset
[18:13] <Zotac> but it doesnt work
[18:13] <Zotac> the grub stage1 run in gnewsense style
[18:13] <beniwtv> josephwegner: also since you tried more routers, probably the router is not the problem either
[18:13] <Zotac> and then, menu is over
[18:14] <Zotac> grub rescue> shell appers
[18:14] <TehAndrewRyan> i'm getting poor sound quality with ALSA, ubuntu 10.10
[18:15] <TehAndrewRyan> i need someone to help me configure ALSa properly, and also disable pulseaudio (not uninstalling it)
[18:16] <TehAndrewRyan> so first, which packages do i want to install with alsa?
[18:17] <yokobr> buenas
[18:17] <yokobr> galera
[18:18] <dttys> i'm trying to compile a driver for my chipset in backtrack;  my kernel headers didnt match my kernel version, so i updated them with apt-get
[18:18] <yokobr> qndo rodo uma pagina que usa cgi, aparece a opção de download :/
[18:18] <dttys> I ended with 2 versions of the headers intalled so i ran:
[18:18] <dttys> apt-get remove linux-headers prepare-kernel-sources
[18:18] <beniwtv> !pt | grep yokobr
[18:18] <dttys> then, when i checked linux-source i got this: http://pastebin.com/Nzj3jLPn
[18:18] <dttys> Should i remove all sources except for the first and last one?
[18:19] <TehAndrewRyan> out of a couple of hundreds, someone gotta know how to install ALSA here?
[18:19] <dttys> sorry wrong channel
[18:20] <beniwtv> TehAndrewRyan: ALSA is already installed by default
[18:20] <TehAndrewRyan> beniwtv: yes but i want to use it instead of PulseAudio since i'm getting sick latency in skype
[18:20] <Polah> TehAndrewRyan, sure, but those people probably aren't here. Like beniwtv said, ALSA comes by default.
[18:20] <maheanuu> 2 questions, how do I turn on my web cam in Ubuntu and why would my webcam video in skype be upside down?
[18:22] <meta_coder> ha ha
[18:22] <Polah> TehAndrewRyan, PulseAudio is a server for handling input/output on top of ALSA, it doesn't run standalone. You can disable it by running sudo service pulseaudio stop | sudo killall pulseaudio   you'll need to disable it's startup script too, but I don't know how to do that
[18:22] <beniwtv> TehAndrewRyan: I'm not experiencing any lag here in Skype, so I'm not much of a help here.
[18:22] <TehAndrewRyan> Polah: i have already made a script which kills pulseaudio and prevents it from autostarting again
[18:23] <TehAndrewRyan> Polah: i'm for some reason getting weird sound quality with alsa though
[18:23] <glebihan> TehAndrewRyan, that's not a very clean way to do it
[18:23] <Malvoro> Hi everybody
[18:23] <maheanuu> I am asking these questions for my daughter as she is using 11.04 my son in law tells me that last week they used the camera and it was normal???
[18:23] <Polah> Yes, you should disable it on startup, not just make a script to run to disable it afterwards.
[18:24] <Malvoro> i need ur help
[18:24] <Malvoro> someone can help me
[18:24] <beniwtv> Polah: AFAIK it runs with each user session, not on system startup
[18:24] <Polah> The easiest was it System > Preferences > Startup Applications and then uncheck PulseAudio Sound System
[18:24] <h00k> !ask | Malvoro
[18:25] <Polah> beniwtv: Yes, actually you're right
[18:25] <glebihan> Polah, beniwtv : actually half-right : there's also a daemon started on boot
[18:25] <TehAndrewRyan> how comes i'm getting about 2000 ms latency in skype? i can talk, but others don't hear me until about 2 seconds later
[18:25] <Malvoro> jajaj sorry thaks i have a problem with the mount comand i cant mount my mp3 player in my ubuntu 10.10
[18:26] <Polah> glebihan, I guess the daemon is there to start pulseaudio for the user?
[18:26] <beniwtv> glebihan: hum... could be. last time I remember the startup script just erroring out with "PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions..." but that could have change now
[18:26] <beniwtv> has been a while since I had to touch sound...
[18:26] <Polah> beniwtv, actually that's what I get when I restart the service
[18:27] <iText> my terminal dosent displays the unicode fonts correctly, while i copy the text to gedit, it displays properly, how to solve this in terminal
[18:27] <maheanuu> TenAndrewRyan what sound distro are you using
[18:27] <brontosaurusrex> iText: paste here a line of problematic text
[18:27] <h00k> iText: make sure your terminal is set to UTF-8 characters
[18:28] <beniwtv> iText: what's the output of the locale command?
[18:28] <glebihan> Polah, beniwtv : it seems to depend on configuration, pulseaudio can run either on a system level or on a user level
[18:28] <mattt_> Is it possible to have multiple bluetooth headsets connected and functioning simultaneously one on BT radio/adapter?
[18:28] <iText> locale dosent prompts utf8
[18:29] <beniwtv> glebihan: yes, you're right. But I think Ubuntu only does user sessions
[18:29] <iText> LANG = en_IN
[18:29] <glebihan> beniwtv, looks like it's the default
[18:29] <beniwtv> iText: you're missing the UTF-8 support, it should say en_IN.UTF-8.
[18:29] <iText> beniwtv: how to set this LANG to utf8?
[18:30] <iText> beniwtv: it does displays some chars properly but not all
[18:31] <brontosaurusrex> terminal/set chat encoding/
[18:31] <brontosaurusrex> char*
[18:31] <beniwtv> iText: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-select-and-generate-locales-on-ubuntu.html
[18:32]  * iText is trying the link given
[18:33] <maheanuu> Could someone help me with a video problem  My daughter is using 11.04 and her webcam on the laptop is showin the image upside down it was normal last week
[18:34] <bluebomber_satel> Will user cron jobs be run when the user is not logged in?
[18:34] <h00k> bluebomber_satel: yep.
[18:34] <beniwtv> bluebomber_satel: yes
[18:35] <Pici> bluebomber_satel: they may not if you have an encrypted home for your user.
[18:35] <brontosaurusrex> maheanuu: that could be anything on the video processing path
[18:36] <bluebomber_satel> h00k, beniwtv : Thanks. They will be run as that user from that user's home directory?
[18:36] <maheanuu> bronto, where do I start, when you go to test in skype it shows you upside down///
[18:36] <beniwtv> bluebomber_satel: yes, but take care of what Pici said, encrypted home will not work
[18:37] <brontosaurusrex> maheanuu: do you have to use some 3rd party drivers for the webcam?
[18:38] <maheanuu> No, not to my knowledge the computer is an Asus laptop that was given to my daughter and I installed 11.04 on it and it was working fine until yesterday and they used skype and the image is upside down now, before it was normal
[18:39] <maheanuu> Bronto, it was normal until yesterday
[18:39] <beniwtv> maheanuu: It could also be a update you applied, like a kernel update that changed something in the driver
[18:40] <maheanuu> Ok beniwtv I was thinking the same thing she does the auto update and it might have messed with the kernel
[18:41] <beniwtv> maheanuu: It would be nice to find out which kernel module it uses and see if there is any parameter
[18:41] <prakas> i am trying to connect to a wifi network but it gives me time out. the signal level shows -79dBm. how can i connect to this access point?
[18:41] <prakas> any way to make iwconfig connect to the access point?
[18:42] <maheanuu> Ok, I will be going to my daughters house this morning, I will look at it and also see what has happened.  I am now at my place and until I go there I really do not have a true handle on the situation
[18:42] <maheanuu> Thanks for everone who answered and I will be back....
[18:43] <bluebomber_satel> Pici, beniwtv: Many thanks.
[18:44] <dephyre> Video4Linux in the Software center has a fix for that,
[18:45] <zahh> is there anyway to run conky ina terminal
[18:45] <chris215> hey, in synaptic, is glade-gnome (GTK+ 2 User Interface Builder (with GNOME 2 support)) the same thing as glade interface designer?
[18:45] <zahh> in a console only environment
[18:46] <chris215> bc i dont see glade interface designer
[18:46] <glebihan> chris215, it's the same
[18:47] <beniwtv> chris215: there should be glade (3.8.0) and glade-gnome
[18:47] <glebihan> chris215, well about the same anyway, but you should also see glade in there
[18:47] <chris215> glebaron: so i will have the gui?
[18:47] <glebihan> chris215, yes
[18:47] <chris215> b/c i can download it from glade.gnome.org to be safe
[18:47] <brunoborges> anybody have ever succeed in fix a broken ubuntu 11.04 installation (after gnome3 mess up)
[18:48] <chris215> glebaron: but if its better than i will just use synaptic
[18:48] <brunoborges> it happened recently (2 days ago), after some weird updates
[18:48] <zahh> Can you run conky in a terminal?
[18:48] <glebihan> brunoborges, you shouldn't have installed gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 in the first place
[18:49] <glebihan> brunoborges, it's unstable and unsupported
[18:49] <brunoborges> glebihan: I had gnome3 running fine for months
[18:49] <brunoborges> glebihan: but some update 2 days ago messed up with it
[18:49] <beniwtv> zahh: It's a X app, so no
[18:49] <glebihan> brunoborges, then you were lucky for months
[18:49] <brunoborges> glebihan: I don't mind to not have gnome3, actually I'm looking for a way to repair my installation with xubuntu
[18:50] <zahh> beniwtv: Ah thanks. Know of a terminal only alternative?
[18:50] <SIFTU> zahh: you could try compiling it with --disable-x11
[18:50] <beniwtv> zahh: byobu is nice, but I don't know if that's what you're after
[18:50] <prakas> my wireless adapter times out. how can i force iwconfig to connect to this ap? Frequency:2.442 GHz (Channel 7) Quality=48/100  Signal level:-78 dBm  Noise level=-127 dBm
[18:51] <zahh> Alright. thanks guys ill look into both
[18:51] <glebihan> brunoborges, the problem is, by installing gnome3, you also switched to gtk3 (and I'm not sure at all how well xfce supports it)
[18:51] <SIFTU> zahh: as beniwtv said, its really an X app
[18:51] <brunoborges> glebihan: let's consider I removed a lot of things, and now I only have console and irssi ? :-)
[18:51] <brunoborges> glebihan: I'm still not able to install ubuntu-desktop
[18:52] <glebihan> brunoborges, what errors do you get ?
[18:52] <Polah> brunoborges, what error do you get whe nyou try?
[18:52] <brunoborges> glebihan: it states some dependencies are not met, like "Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.88) but it is not going to be installed"
[18:52] <simius__> brunoborges, Are you trying to install 11.04?
[18:52] <brunoborges> glebihan: but that lib is installed and at version 0.9
[18:52] <glebihan> brunoborges, did you remove the gnome3 ppa from your sources ?
[18:53] <beniwtv> brunoborges: probably you still have the new libs installed, which is causing that problem
[18:53] <brunoborges> glebihan: I only have natty sources
[18:53] <brunoborges> glebihan: is there any way to revert that ?
[18:53] <brunoborges> glebihan: not really: Package: libdbus-glib-1-2
[18:53] <prakas> anyways is -78 dbm too weak?
[18:53] <brunoborges> Versions:
[18:53] <brunoborges> 0.92-0ubuntu1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[18:53] <Guest65632> hello
[18:54] <glebihan> brunoborges, could you pastebin the complete error message ?
[18:54] <beniwtv> prakas: depends, I giuess. Have you tried moving closer?
[18:55] <prakas> beniwtv: yes but it shows times out in dmesg|tail
[18:55] <brunoborges> glebihan: no I cannot pastebin (no browser, remember?)
[18:55] <xreal> Do the kernels from "mainline" include any ubuntu specific patches?
[18:55] <brunoborges> glebihan: I only have console and irssi for now
[18:55] <glebihan> brunoborges, no need for a browser, use the pastebinit application
[18:55] <beniwtv> prakas: Tmeout associating, i presume? Or DHCP timeout?
[18:55] <tetsuo--> what could be causing 100% cpu usager visable in the system montior, when all processes listed say 0% cpu
[18:55] <Featurefreak> tetsuo--: check it in top also
[18:55] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: try the "top" command
[18:56] <Featurefreak> tetsuo--: i'd trust top over system monitor
[18:56] <brunoborges> glebihan: ?
[18:56] <brunoborges> glebihan: what pastebinit?
[18:56] <glebihan> brunoborges, install pastebinit
[18:56] <tetsuo--> through terminal right?
[18:56] <Featurefreak> pastebinit?   hmmm,
[18:56] <brunoborges> glebihan: can't install that
[18:56] <glebihan> brunoborges, then run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | pastebinit"
[18:56] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: yep
[18:56] <glebihan> brunoborges, why ?
[18:56] <MoMo> I have a modem that can give ipv6 and ipv4 ... right now dhclient gives me v6 ... can i tell it i want a v4 address?
[18:56] <Featurefreak> neat :)
[18:57] <tetsuo--> ok yop works, its says mount.ntfs is using the most cpy time followed by nautilus
[18:57] <brunoborges> glebihan: because apt-get is Unable to locate package pastebinit
[18:57] <learner> hi all
[18:57] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: Are you copying any files?
[18:57] <prakas> beniwtv: wlan0: direct probe to AP 00:80:48:69:91:ca timed out
[18:57] <Featurefreak> ooh, nautilus extension also.
[18:57] <tetsuo--> beniwtv: yes i am
[18:58] <glebihan> brunoborges, then either you didn't restore your software sources to the natty ones or you didn't run "apt-get update"
[18:58] <learner> i am here on behalf of my frnd. who is using ubuntu 10.10. he has configured internet mobil connection (reliance netconnect) and gprs conection it was working fine sudennly yesterday he is not able to connect and there is a exclamation mark in his network applet saying tat network manager is not running.
[18:58] <tetsuo--> kswapd0 is also using a lot on once in a while
[18:58] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: ok, just out of curiosity, what system specs?
[18:58] <Featurefreak> glebihan: that nautilus pastbinit extension any user?
[18:58] <brunoborges> glebihan: what's the easiest way to revert some lib to the latest version in natty repository ?
[18:58] <Featurefreak> any use i mean.
[18:59] <prakas> beniwtv: did u see? wlan0: direct probe to AP 00:80:48:69:91:ca timed out
[18:59] <glebihan> brunoborges, uninstall it and reinstall it after making sure you really have *only* the official repositories in your sources.list
[18:59] <glebihan> Featurefreak, what ?
[18:59] <brunoborges> glebihan: guess it's gonna be a long night
[18:59] <brunoborges> glebihan:  =)
[18:59] <beniwtv> prakas: almost missed it, seems like it's not getting any response from the AP
[18:59] <glebihan> brunoborges, could be ;)
[18:59] <beniwtv> prakas: Do you use some sort of MAC filtering on the AP?
[19:00] <brunoborges> glebihan: is there any command that removes everything except base system ?
[19:00] <brunoborges> glebihan: how do I list groups ?
[19:01] <Featurefreak> glebihan: there's a nautilus pastebinit extension in the repos, just wondered if you''d tried it.
[19:01] <glebihan> brunoborges, no no such command afaik
[19:01] <brunoborges> glebihan: shit
[19:01] <glebihan> brunoborges, you mean user groups ?
[19:01] <brunoborges> glebihan: package groups
[19:01] <tetsuo--> beniwtv: a cheapish core2duo with 3gb of ram
[19:01] <glebihan> Featurefreak, I have it installed but don't think I ever actually used it
[19:02] <Featurefreak> glebihan: yeh, not sure i'd really use that either..
[19:02] <magnus> I have installed Apache on my PC, and I have a problem, because I do not get up any error message when I'm wrong in my php script
[19:02] <prakas> beniwtv: no it is not mac filtered
[19:02] <glebihan> brunoborges, what do you mean by package groups ?
[19:02] <Featurefreak> magnus: ##php
[19:02] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: Strange it would take up so much CPU. What's the network bandwidth?
[19:02] <beniwtv> prakas: ok, maybe a driver problem then, which chipset is it?
[19:02] <glebihan> magnus, that's a configuration in your php.ini
[19:03] <prakas> beniwtv: intel 3945abg
[19:03] <tetsuo--> beniwtv: 0
[19:03] <TheProf> Hello.  I hope everyone is doing well.  My question: I have 2 network cards in my computer.  How do I determine which one performs better so I can use it as the main one?  One is PCI Intel  82541G gigabit controller the other is an on-board Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI express gigabit controller
[19:03] <glebihan> magnus, check the value of the "error_reporting" configuration directive in php.ini
[19:03] <magnus> ok so, were in the php.ini file do i config it?
[19:03] <magnus> ok :)
[19:03] <learner> i am here on behalf of my frnd. who is using ubuntu 10.10. he has configured internet mobil connection (reliance netconnect) and gprs conection it was working fine sudennly yesterday he is not able to connect and there is a exclamation mark in his network applet saying tat network manager is not running.
[19:03] <beniwtv> prakas: Never had Intel, so not sure how the drivers are. Try searching for Linux problems with that chipset in google.
[19:04] <glebihan> magnus, everything you should need is explained in the file itself
[19:04] <tetsuo--> beniwtv: ive been following it for a while now, and it seems to average out at 50% cpu usage with regular peaks as high as 100% (both cores)
[19:04] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: 0?
[19:04] <prakas> ok :(
[19:04] <tetsuo--> beniwtv: network reciving and sending is both 0bytes/s
[19:05] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: Oh, ok. Files do still transfer or has it stalled?
[19:05] <tetsuo--> ive also noticed that my copying speed has slowed from 25mb/s to 13,6mb sec
[19:05] <tetsuo--> beniwtv: still copying
[19:05] <_viking> what is a good programming language for a high school student to learn first? my goal is learn the guts behind network protocols like https, pop etc
[19:05] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: ok, so the network can't be 0bytes then. 25mb/s it pretty good
[19:06] <magnus> glebihan is it this you mean? error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_DEPRECATED
[19:06] <jrib> _viking: python
[19:07] <_viking> jrib thanks, but why python
[19:07] <beniwtv> tetsuo--: Depending on the disk usage, you might have high I/O which is causing this. The new kernel in Oneiric should help with those issues. For now, I wouldn't worry if it copies fine
[19:07] <glebihan> magnus, that's right
[19:07] <magnus> ok, but i still got no error message :S
[19:07] <beniwtv> magnus: have you checked /var/log/apache/error.log?
[19:07] <jrib> _viking: because I really like it :D  It's a high level language with good syntax choices, a library for anything you want, and plenty of support
[19:07] <beniwtv> apache2*
[19:07] <magnus> no
[19:08] <glebihan> magnus, there is also the "display_errors"
[19:08] <beniwtv> magnus: fatal errors go there
[19:08] <tetsuo55> beniwtv: im copying from DiskA to diskB
[19:08] <jrib> _viking: in reality, you should try doing some intro tutorial for a bunch of languages and then choose the one you enjoy the most
[19:08] <brunoborges> tetsuo55: ronald... :P
[19:08] <glebihan> magnus, and you have to run 'sudo service apache2 reload' once you're done with modifying the php.ini
[19:08] <magnus> ok
[19:09] <beniwtv> _viking: I also like Vala, which is a high-level language that compiles down to C code
[19:09] <tetsuo55> brunoborges: i dont get it
[19:09] <beniwtv> _viking: And has integration with almost all gnome libs
[19:09] <Mic1> /aprt
[19:09] <sysadamin> for a highschool student?
[19:09] <sysadamin> learn bash.
[19:09] <magnus> Still got no error message :S
[19:09] <brunoborges> tetsuo55: sorry, I thought was a friend of mine
[19:10] <sysadamin> please learn bash scripting. and PERL. and python. and ruby.
[19:10] <tetsuo55> brunoborges: ahh ok, no sorry
[19:10] <glebihan> magnus, did you also check the "display_errors" directive ?
[19:10] <Merdam> hey   how do you trigger a "channel emergency" alert?
[19:10] <magnus> same adress?
[19:10] <_viking> sysadamin i'm in form three here in zimbabwe, which translates to grade eight in the states
[19:10] <_viking> which i'm guessing is where you are
[19:11] <glebihan> magnus, same file yes, it should be just below the error_reporting one
[19:11] <learner> i am here on behalf of my frnd. who is using ubuntu 10.10. he has configured internet mobil connection (reliance netconnect) and gprs conection it was working fine sudennly yesterday he is not able to connect and there is a exclamation mark in his network applet saying tat network manager is not running.
[19:11] <Merdam> Zimbabwe...   wow  How are things over there?
[19:11] <_viking> politics, racism, violence except for where i live, the wealth suburbs
[19:11] <_viking> wealthy
[19:11] <Merdam> no racism there?
[19:12] <tetsuo55> beniwtv: now kswapd0 has been using 100% cpu for a longer than usual time
[19:12] <beniwtv> learner: usually that means that NetworkManager is not running and/or has crashed. Try "sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart"
[19:12] <beniwtv> tetsuo55: that means it's swapping something - you can check with free -m
[19:13] <magnus> got it now :)
[19:13] <magnus> tnx
[19:13] <beniwtv> tetsuo55: Also it swaps from time to time so this is nothing strange
[19:13] <glebihan> magnus, you're welcome
[19:14] <kyle__> So, my machine is useable, but still royally screwed up after trying to remove the ATI driver.  Now I have two heads hooked up, but one always overlaps the other, and is set at horribly low resolution.
[19:14] <tetsuo55> beniwtv:  says 700 used 8000 free
[19:14] <agentgasmask> How can I use "bind" to run a shell script? bind \\ /home/user/bin/script.sh  ??   Will that run script.sh when C-a \ is pressed?
[19:14] <tetsuo55> ram is only 22 free
[19:14] <learner> beniwtv: it shows this result sudo: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager: command not found
[19:14] <beniwtv> tetsuo55: seems normal
[19:15] <tetsuo55> is there any way i can make it copy faster? 13,6 is no where near the theoretical max for sata disks
[19:15] <beniwtv> learner: /etc/init.d/networkmanager on new version
[19:16] <beniwtv> tetsuo55: Probably not, it depends on a lot of things. Mainboard, chipset drivers, etc...
[19:16] <kyle__> tetsuo55: Most rotatating, and even most SSD sata discs can't touch the theoretical limit for a moment, let alone saturate it.
[19:16] <learner> beniwtv: what should i do now?
[19:16] <beniwtv> learner: Did it do anything?
[19:16] <magnus> one thing more, how to delete a file using terminal?
[19:17] <agentgasmask> Hello. In gun-screen, how can I use "bind" to run a shell script? bind \\ /home/user/bin/script.sh  ??   Will that run script.sh when C-a \ is pressed?
[19:17] <brunoborges> is there a way to search for packages that do not origin from natty repo ?
[19:17] <brunoborges> with apt
[19:17] <dweez> brunoborges, I would think you would have to add 3rd party repos to do that
[19:17] <kyle__> agentgasmask: Not sure at all how to do that, but if you're not getting an answer, try posting the question in a forum, like superuser.com or linuxquestinos.
[19:18] <brunoborges> dweez: I want to know which packages are installed in my PC, but are not from Natty official repo
[19:18] <Merdam> _viking are there a lot of people on the downlow in Zimbabwe that I could hookup with?
[19:18] <kyle__> agentgasmask: Actually, I didn't even know you could bind scripts to screen like that, so when you find out, I wanna know!
[19:18] <_viking2> Merdam hmm?
[19:18] <Merdam> people in the closet
[19:18] <tetsuo55> yeah but still, 13,7 is slow for a disk that benchmarks around 100 burst and 70 sustained
[19:19] <Merdam> Africans with large proboscises
[19:19] <_viking2> yeah man sodomy will get you a life sentence here
[19:19] <Merdam> any white people where you live?
[19:19] <kyle__> tetsuo55: It was giving you a sustaned transfer of not even 14MB/sec?
[19:19] <_viking2> and i'm a european-african
[19:19] <_viking2> i live in borrowdale brooke, it's all white here man
[19:19] <Merdam> I thought they kicked the whites out of Zimbabwe
[19:19] <tetsuo55> kyle__: current copy speed is less than 14 right now, top speed ive seen today was 25
[19:19] <_viking2> mostly people of dutch, british and german descent
[19:20] <tetsuo55> kyle__: im used to seeing 30-60
[19:20] <learner> beniwtv: it gives this result bash: /etc/init.d/networkmanager: No such file or directory
[19:20] <_viking2> no they took a few thousand white owned commercial farms
[19:20] <kyle__> tetsuo55: Are you maybe, copying using ssh or rsync over ssh?
[19:20] <_viking2> there are a few hundred thousand whites left
[19:20] <_viking2> i think
[19:20] <beniwtv> learner: did you by any chance remove network-manager?
[19:20] <tetsuo55> kyle__: im on the desktop itself, using liveCD, to copy the home folder from physical drive A to physical Drive B
[19:21] <learner> beniwtv :no
[19:21] <rumpe1> learner, the file is called "network-manager", not "networkmanager"
[19:21] <learner> beniwtv: ok i will try tat
[19:21] <kyle__> tetsuo55: Humm.  Well, I suppose the live cd may be using unoptimized drivers.  I deffinately don't see it be that slow when I do that sort of thing here.
[19:21] <rumpe1> learner, advice: use tab-completion more often
[19:21] <beniwtv> rumpe1: ooops, I think you're right
[19:21] <j0bi> to ssh my server outside from internet should i port forward eg port 22
[19:21] <tetsuo55> kyle__: thats why i came here and asked for help, it seems extraordinary slow
[19:22] <agentgasmask> kyle__: I'll be sure to pass on the info. There is this line from the screen man file for running a telnet session: bind ^f screen telnet foobar  It says it will open a new screen "window" and run a telnet to "foobar". I didn't think screen has a bilt in telnet, so I'm gessing it is running system programs. I'll keep looking
[19:22] <kyle__> tetsuo55: What's it like when you're booted into the local installation on that box?  And are those drives ext2/3/4 ntfs, ufs?  Are they mounted using fuse?
[19:23] <rumpe1> j0bi, i would advice a non-default port for forwarding, at least on your router. Port 22 on the net is often under attack.
[19:23] <ishinozaki> !ping
[19:23] <tetsuo55> kyle__:  local install they max out the connection, so 30-60 depending on the place on the platter, the one disk is ext(whatever ubuntu10.10 made it) and the other seems to be ntfs
[19:24] <j0bi> rumpe1:  yes i agree i just ask if i should port forward ?
[19:24] <kyle__> rumpe1: you know you can always setup ssh to accept key-only authentication :)  makes brute forcing a ton harder.
[19:24] <j0bi> for ssh to work from outside?
[19:24] <rumpe1> j0bi, how else does the router knows, where he should send the ssh-connection-requests?
[19:24] <j0bi> okz thanks
[19:24] <mahnaz> hi
[19:25] <mahnaz> I am new in linux
[19:25] <mahnaz> I want to
[19:25] <kyle__> tetsuo55: The slow down could be the ntfs.  The only decent way to mount ntfs is using ntfs3g, wich is fuse.  Fuse runs userspace, not kernelspace.  That slowdown could be entirely fuse & ntfs.
[19:25] <_viking2> zimbabwe has the largest amount of ubuntu users per capita vs anywhere else on the planet, that's pretty cool if you ask me, it's 'cause ms windows is so expensive and ubuntu zimbabwe gives out cd's for free
[19:25] <tetsuo55> kyle__: would cherry picking updates relate dto those functions in the livecd work you think?
[19:25] <mahnaz> change content of boot/grub/grub.conf
[19:25] <tetsuo55> help improve performance?
[19:25] <rumpe1> kyle__, well... non-default port reduces traffic and cpu-time for stupid bruteforce-scripts.
[19:25] <ishinozaki> kyle_ whats the diff from running it at user and kernel?
[19:25] <mahnaz> but I am not able
[19:26] <mahnaz> can any one help me plaese?
[19:26] <Polah> j0bi, rumpe1 you'd also need to configure the SSH server to listen on the other port
[19:26] <kyle__> ishinozaki: Most mount processies are run in kernel space, like when you mount ext3 or xfs or reiserfs.  That's in the kernel, which always has the highest priority.
[19:27] <ishinozaki> did you recommend running it at kernel or user?
[19:27] <_viking2> why does /var/cache/apt/archives keep .deb files after they're installed?
[19:27] <kyle__> ishinozaki: FUSE runs the mount processes as the user, in user space, with the priority and access of the user.  Nice becuase then the user doesn't need any root access to mount.  Not nice, because it's slower.
[19:27] <rumpe1> _viking2, so you don't have to download them again for a reinstall
[19:28] <Polah> _viking2: Because if a user wants to reinstall something they don't need to redownload the packages and can just use them from there, or move them elsewhere to reinstall elsewhere
[19:28] <kyle__> ishinozaki: It all depends on what you need & what you want to do.  But kernelspace is faster than userspace.  No two ways about it.
[19:28] <ishinozaki> when we talk about priority it means performance?
[19:29] <ishinozaki> i see, that made sense.
[19:29] <kyle__> ishinozaki: Not directly.   A higher priority means when a process wants to run, it gets to run before processes of lower priority.  It can affect performance, but isn't performance.
[19:29] <Styles> Hey my scroll wheel oesn't work for chrome, any way to enable it?
[19:30] <ishinozaki> let me get one thing clarified: no root access reflects good security and convenience?
[19:30] <_viking2> is there anyway to retrieve or change the root password if you forget it?
[19:30] <Polah> ishinozaki, no complete, unrestricted root access reflects good security
[19:31] <ishinozaki> running in userspace allows that?
[19:31] <Polah> _viking2: Yes, you can boot to a recovery console or probably chroot from a live session to do so.
[19:31] <_viking2> Polah thanks
[19:31] <kid> we have a project server and have moved buildings. we have plugged it and the computers can find the server, just cannot connect.
[19:31] <Polah> Alternately sudo would allow you to do it too, from a sudo-enabled admin account
[19:32] <ishinozaki> i am trying to further understand sudo
[19:32] <glebaron> how can I find out what packages are installed on my system?
[19:33] <ishinozaki> because from the way i see it, if i run something malicious under sudo its no different from being root
[19:33] <Polah> ishinozaki, it allows authorised users (users that are allowed to use sudo for commands) to run commands as root temporarily.
[19:33] <rumpe1> glebaron, dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[19:34] <cousin_luigi> hello
[19:34] <Polah> ishinozaki, sudo can be restricted to only allow usage of certain commands, so you can restrict the abilities of users using sudo and forces users to think about what they're doing before actually doing it, preventing accidental damage. Having access to a root account allows totally unrestricted, unquestioned access to anything, increasing the risk of damage
[19:34] <DRW_> l
[19:35] <kid> how can i access the server, it's stuck on "connecting" but when i click "connect" it doesn't work.
[19:35] <glebaron> rumpel, thanks !
[19:35] <ishinozaki> i see, would you know how similar that is implemented in windows now these days?
[19:35] <kid> getting the "connection failed. the server may not exsist or it is not operational at this time. check the server name or IP address and your network connection and try again." error
[19:37] <Polah> ishinozaki, Windows can UAC which attempts to stop users running admin-level commands unrestricted and asks them to confirm what they're doing, but it doesn't actually stop permission elevation and suchlike for malicious softwares. Implementation of sudo allows authorised users to run commands as root temporarily but is actually effective at stopping malicious programs. Check this link out for the benefits and downsides of sudo: https://h
[19:37] <Polah> elp.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:38] <ishinozaki> you mean the implementation of uac is more of validation?
[19:40] <Polah> ishinozaki, UAC is just "Are you sure you want to do this, yes or no?".
[19:41] <ishinozaki> i see. its "may i do that" as opposed to "can i do that"
[19:41] <tetsuo55> should i cancel the copy action  before installing file-system related updates?
[19:41] <tetsuo55> i assume i can resume it later by "skipping all files" that it finds
[19:41] <gobgab> ugh
[19:42] <agentgasmask> kyle__: OK, I've got it to work if you want me to message you the details. :)
[19:42] <[DeVil-BoY]> hi everyone,
[19:42] <kid> any reason i wouldn't be able to connect to the server. we've recently moved offices and now i can "find the server" just cannot get past the "connecting" phase.
[19:43] <Polah> ishinozaki, somewhat. The user asks sudo to do a specific action and sudo then asks for authentication. Windows' UAC just appears when they try to do something and gives a yes/no option with no actual authentication, anybody can just click yes. It also doesn't stop malicious programs for accessing protected files, it just hinders the user really. sudo allows access to those authorised and that can authenticate and any other attempts that