[17:00] <cantstanya> how would the dispatch of systemd work
[17:01] <cantstanya> would it affect a certain version an up?
[17:01] <cantstanya> what about the currently released version
[17:01] <cantstanya> or the LTS versions not yet EOL'd
[17:21] <Aleksei__> cantstanya: I highly doubt that switch to systemd happens in either existing or next LTS. Integrating systemd is neither easy nor nondisruptive, which doesn't fit the LTS release purpose. Besides, upstart works reasonably well, so no need to hurry.
[17:22] <cantstanya> So it would most likely be: it releases on a certain version, and only subsequent versions will have it, LTS versions will still have upstart?
[17:23] <cantstanya> s/LTS/prior &/
[17:26] <Aleksei__> Yes.
[17:27] <cantstanya> so suffice to say it's not a concern for at least 12.04 and 14.04
[17:27] <cantstanya> okay
[17:30] <Aleksei__> Most probably some version will have systemd as an option alongside upstart, but changing the default is unlikely to happen soon. Certanly not before Debian does.
[17:31] <cantstanya> but LTS wise said option probably won't be on 12.04 or 14.04, right?
[17:40] <Aleksei__> Well, you *can* install systemd from the PPA, and it will mostly work. But to place it in main it needs to meet some quality standards, which is unlikely until Debian systemd maintainers do the work.
[17:41] <Aleksei__> It isn't even in the universe yet, so it's a long way to go...
[17:53] <cantstanya> My inquiry was mostly towards inclusion in main; if it somehow made it there by 14.04 (even as an option), I would have people transition, but I'm not suggesting a PPA.
[17:54] <cantstanya> but I think you answered everything, so thanks.
[17:54] <cantstanya> Aleksei__: ^


[11:51] <hans__> is this the lubuntu livecd bootscreen? https://i.imgur.com/pTWjNlA.png
[11:53] <hateball> looks a bit broken, but yes


[15:19] <jsalisbury> apw, ogasawara Should we cancel this weeks IRC meeting until W development gets into full swing?


[13:14] <andrejz> Hello! anyone already using 11.04?
[13:32] <trijntje> andrejz, just installed it in vbox, not yet on my main system
[13:33] <andrejz> i am running it on my netbook for some time and i noticed some non-latin characters were not displayed properly in terminal
[13:33] <andrejz> and i was wondering if someone can confim this for their language
[13:34] <trijntje> im on a Dutch (nl) system, so I dont think I have non-latin characters
[13:36] <andrejz> ok thanks. i will ask dpm on monday if he has any more info about this
[13:51] <artnay_> will you guys keep unity's launcher as "Launcher" or will there be a translation in your language?
[13:51] <andrejz> we will translate it
[13:51] <artnay_> we had a translation but seems like didrocks has changed already made translations into English form (Launcher)
[13:52] <artnay_> Keep In Launcher  Pidä Launcherissa   Translated by Didier Roche on 2010-06-17
[13:53] <artnay_> it seems an earlier translation has overwritten a newer one...
[13:54] <andrejz> i think that is not supposed to happen


[01:48]  * freeflying
[03:40] <doctormo> I need some help with a package that works ok in lucid, but fails to build for maverick.
[03:40] <doctormo> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57210297/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.xserver-xorg-input-wizardpen_0.7.3-2maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[03:41] <doctormo> The error is odd and unfamiliar to me. Permission denied executing ./configure
[03:41] <poolie> doctormo: it's not +x permission
[03:41] <poolie> a few reasons that could have broken:
[03:41] <poolie> 1-
[03:41] <poolie>  the permissions are actually different in this package
[03:41] <poolie> 2- previously it was run with 'sh ./configure' and now it's not
[03:41] <poolie> though that seems a bit unlikely
[03:42] <poolie> 3- previously something was running autoconf, which recreated/chomdded it
[03:42] <poolie> seems unlikely too
[03:42] <poolie> hth
[03:44] <doctormo> hth?
[03:44] <poolie> "hope that helps"
[03:44] <poolie> it's probably #1
[03:44] <doctormo> poolie: Checking the source dir, the configure file is +x, I wonder if it's in the deb source though like that.
[03:46] <doctormo> Ah perhaps it's because the make source produces an output which is different... hmm, interesting weirdness.
[03:47] <doctormo> This is why I dislike semi-abandoned codebases, no upstream to ask for help.
[03:59] <ScottK> micahg: Looks like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320081 ?
[04:00] <poolie> hello scottk
[04:00] <ScottK> Hello poolie
[04:01] <ScottK> micahg: http://www.zoneminder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=64281 looks interesting too.
[04:03] <poolie> ScottK: could you sponsor, or give us some further feedback on, the SRU in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/636930
[04:03] <poolie> i think your concerns from last time are now addressed
[04:03] <micahg> ScottK: k, I ended up pushing to PPA since they're empty
[04:03] <micahg> it builds fast
[04:03] <ScottK> poolie: We're definitely into SRU territory now.
[04:03] <poolie> that's fine
[04:03] <ScottK> It's also late here, so I don't have time to sponsor it tonight.
[04:04] <ScottK> Since it's an SRU, it can't get accepted until Sunday, so no rush ....
[04:04] <poolie> right, it's not urgent
[04:04] <poolie> i'd just like to know if we have to do anything else to make it move
[04:05] <micahg> ScottK: our diff is to fix a problem with ffmpeg
[04:05] <ScottK> micahg: Are you sure we still need it?
[04:05] <micahg> ScottK: that was what I was going to try next :)
[04:07] <ScottK> OK.  I'm off to sleep.  Good night.
[04:07] <micahg> ScottK: night, thanks
[04:21] <micahg> hyperair: hi, can you sponsor a debdiff?
[04:31] <hyperair> micahg: fxscintilla?
[04:31] <hyperair> you still haven't found another sponsor?
[04:31] <hyperair> i thought someone else was looking into it?
[04:31] <micahg> hyperair: heh, no that's already built :), bug 656101
[04:31] <hyperair> zoneminder eh
[04:36] <nigelb> g30
[04:46] <fabrice_sp> Now that even universe is hard frozen, are sync request still processes (it's for bug 613926, that has been approved before freeze), or should I upload with ack-sync?
[04:47] <fabrice_sp> ScottK, ^ (as you acked it)
[04:47] <micahg> fabrice_sp: he's offline, you can try slangasek
[04:48] <fabrice_sp> thanks micahg ! I saw it in the log not so long ago
[04:48] <fabrice_sp> will wait to see if slangasek reply to your ping
[04:49] <fabrice_sp> by the way, you have a second vote for Motuship ;-)
[04:49] <micahg> fabrice_sp: heh, thanks
[04:50] <micahg> upload rights come in handy towards the end of the cycle
[05:05] <hyperair> micahg: you added a trailing empty line at the bottom of debian/changelog.
[05:05] <hyperair> micahg: i'll just remove it, but please don't add it in the future.
[05:05] <hyperair> micahg: one \n is enough =)
[05:06] <micahg> hyperair: ugh, I don't have that in my debdiff
[05:06] <hyperair> micahg: it's in your debdiff.
[05:06] <hyperair> @@ -222,3 +236,4 @@
[05:06] <hyperair>      various scripts; replaced with GPL.
[05:06] <hyperair>
[05:06] <hyperair>   -- Peter Howard<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Wed,  7 Feb 2007 14:09:01 +1100
[05:06] <hyperair> +
[05:06] <hyperair> see that trailing +
[05:06] <micahg> oh, I think that came with it
[05:06] <micahg> I just didn't notice
[05:06]  * micahg checks
[05:06] <micahg> yes, it was in the last upload :)
[05:06] <hyperair> nah, it didn't
[05:06] <hyperair> it wasn't.
[05:07] <hyperair> i debdiffed against the last upload.
[05:07] <hyperair> or rather, i import-dsc'd everything into git for proper examination
[05:07] <micahg> hmm, you're right, it was grab-merge then :)
[05:08] <micahg> I've never seen that before, I'll watch for it now
[05:08] <hyperair> it could be a quirk of your text editor
[05:09] <hyperair> some have a habit of adding one extra \n
[05:09] <micahg> hyperair: from grab-merge patch:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/507743/
[05:10]  * hyperair used apt-get source and dget
[05:10] <hyperair> hmm maybe someone should look into grab-merge.
[05:10] <hyperair> i mean not grab-merge, but merge.ubuntu.com's code itself
[05:11] <hyperair> micahg: anyway apart from that it looks good, so i'll just testbuild and upload.
[05:11] <micahg> hyperair: k, thanks, BTW, pbuilder fails
[05:11] <hyperair> i use sbuild.
[05:11] <hyperair> what happens in pbuilder?
[05:12] <micahg> hyperair: underfined reference or something
[05:12] <hyperair> hmm
[05:12] <hyperair> well i'll see if it happens
[05:16] <hyperair> micahg: looks like it built. i'll upload it then )
[05:16] <hyperair> =)
[05:16] <micahg> hyperair: cool, thanks
[05:17] <hyperair> uploaded
[07:10] <fabrice_sp> I was thinking yesterday about the MOTU acronym meaning, and the fact that we want to get rid of the split between main and universe, and I was wondering: shouldn't we change Master of the Universe to Master of the Unseeded. I know that we loose something in the change, but that may be more accurate. What do you think?
[07:10] <micahg> fabrice_sp: when it happens, it seems appropriate
[07:12] <fabrice_sp> micahg, what do you mean? It's early for my english parser :-)
[07:12] <micahg> the term is appropriate once the archive reorganization happens
[07:13] <fabrice_sp> well, atually, the reorganization is happening now
[07:13] <fabrice_sp> (otherwise you won't be able to upload to -mozilla set ;-) )
[07:13] <micahg> fabrice_sp: well, that's part of it, I'm sure it'll be discussed at UDS
[07:14] <fabrice_sp> is there a planned session for that?
[07:15] <micahg> fabrice_sp: I don't see one yet
[07:17] <fabrice_sp> oh. I'll wait a bit then (or send an email later). I have to  go now. Bye!
[07:17] <micahg> fabrice_sp: have a good day
[07:25] <dholbach> Good Morning!
[07:26] <coolbhavi> good morning dholbach !
[07:26] <dholbach> hey coolbhavi
[07:27] <coolbhavi> hey dholbach how are you doing?
[07:27] <dholbach> good good - how are you?
[07:27] <coolbhavi> m doing fine too
[11:15] <Laney> While we still have components and component-based uploading, MOTU's current expansion is correct
[11:16] <Laney> Archive Upload Rights for motu: archive 'primary', component 'universe' in maverick
[11:16] <Laney> that
[11:50] <Rhonda> Oh, right, requestsync …
[14:48] <ari-tczew> micahg: package uploaded, but branch is still hanged,
[16:00] <micahg> ari-tczew: k, I'm not going to worry about it
[17:56] <ari-tczew> I'm looking for someone who is familiar with licenses...
[17:59] <ScottK> !ask | ari-tczew
[17:59] <ScottK> ;-)
[18:00] <ari-tczew> ok, I have granted ACKs for new package (revu/clementine), but debian/copyright have to be checked by someone familiar with licenses.
[18:13] <ari-tczew> ScottK: maybe you? ^^
[18:13] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Not until after release.  Too much other stuff to do.
[18:14] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I understand. @start natty?
[18:14] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Not before that.  No promises.
[18:14] <Laney> why do you think it's suspect?
[18:15] <ari-tczew> Laney: bdrung has suggested it with giving a comment on revu.
[18:15] <fabrice_sp> ScottK, about bug 613926: should I upload the sync with syncpackage, or it will be synced by an archive admin?
[18:15] <fabrice_sp> you acked it yesterday
[18:16] <Laney> ari-tczew: I think he just means that someone needs to check that d/copyright is correct
[18:16] <Laney> the licenses used are fine
[18:17] <ScottK> fabrice_sp: Go ahead and upload it with syncpackage.
[18:17] <fabrice_sp> ok
[18:19] <ari-tczew> Laney: did you look at clementine's d/copyright?
[18:19] <Laney> yes
[18:20] <Laney> you need to check it's complete and correct
[18:21] <ari-tczew> Laney: this file is handled by upstream author. what do you think, can we trust him?
[18:21] <Laney> no
[18:21] <Laney> the archive admin will check it, you need to too or risk a reject
[18:21] <ari-tczew> Laney: so I asked who is familiar with d/copyright
[18:22] <ari-tczew> because I'm not good person to do it.
[18:22] <Laney> why not?
[18:22] <ari-tczew> I'm not familiar with licenses.
[18:22] <ari-tczew> Laney: I thought that as motu I can upload package by myself (new package).
[18:23] <Laney> Well first of all you should have a working knowledge of them. But second of all you don't really need to be: you just have to check that what is in copyright matches the license statements in the package, and that nothing has been missed out.
[18:23] <Laney> ari-tczew: all NEW source packages get a copyright review
[18:23] <kklimonda> you can if you are able to check d/changelog - that's the same for everyone
[18:23] <kklimonda> d/copyright..
[18:25] <ari-tczew> Laney: ok, so when natty will be started, I'll subscribe ubuntu-archive
[18:25] <Laney> it needs two acks
[18:25] <ari-tczew> Laney: bdrung and me
[18:25] <Laney> neither of you have acked it on revu
[18:26] <Laney> and you should review the copyright file...
[18:26] <Laney> and the archive doesn't need to be subscribed to anything, they review from the NEW queue
[18:26] <ari-tczew> Laney: I'm not familiar with licenses. I'm looking for someone who is familiar with d/copyright.
[18:27] <Laney> This is a good time to learn. Archive administrators aren't the people to do this for you.
[18:28] <ari-tczew> Laney: oh, I just forgot. I'm only laborer.
[18:28] <Laney> It's fairly routine work, just takes a lot of time: checking that what is written there matches up with the source
[18:34] <BlackZ> ScottK: bug #655929: can I proceed with the upload of that package with the changes we mentioned?
[18:34] <ScottK> BlackZ: Yes.
[18:35] <BlackZ> ScottK: thanks
[18:37] <ScottK> Time for me to run off again....


[01:32] <anon_bot> What does mythbuntu use as filesystem type for root partition?  Is it ext3 or ext4 now?
[01:33] <anon_bot> hm, this channel isn't nearly as active as it used to be.
[03:10] <coffmant> This might seem like a dumb question but I haven't seen any new myth binaries since 10.04 - is that correct - have there been zero updates?  I am gettting other OS patches normally
[03:29] <rhpot1991> coffmant: if you want updates for myth packages you will need to enable the auto-builds
[03:29] <rhpot1991> !auto | coffmant
[03:29] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about auto
[03:29] <rhpot1991> !auto% | coffmant
[03:29] <Zinn> coffmant: Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[03:30] <coffmant> Thanks.  I'll check that out.  So the default is that mythbuntu myth binaries are frozen in time between releases?
[03:30] <coffmant> That seems sub-optimal
[03:48] <rhpot1991> coffmant: yes, generally unless a major bug is fixed
[03:48] <coffmant> Ok thanks - I appreciate the info and help
[03:48] <rhpot1991> unfortunately we need to document each bug and its fix, and thats very hard to do when there are changes to the upstream source constantly
[04:52] <JoshT76> hello
[04:52] <JoshT76> need help getting ati hdmi audio working
[05:05] <JoshT76> !help ati hdmi
[05:05] <Zinn> !help ati hdmi For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[05:06] <JoshT76> !help
[05:06] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[05:09] <JoshT76> anyone have ati hdmi audio working?
[05:21] <anon_bot> I just installed a fresh copy of 10.04 LTS and Arclight has this crazy pixelated background.  Is it intentionally crippled or something?
[05:22] <anon_bot> Everything else is working beautifully.  I'm so happy VDPAU is actually working now with nvidia 256.  Bad stuttering with 195.
[05:24] <anon_bot> Oh, turns out it was intentional.  hm. guess I'll have to change it to something else :)
[09:53] <Eklipski> I'm trying to change my videos directory to /share/MOVIES but mythbuntu is not picking up the directory change and not listing the directory when I go to watch videos. am i missing a step?
[10:10] <Eklipski> I see scanning changed in .23 m > scan for changes
[14:41] <JoshT76> hola!
[14:42] <JoshT76> here's my frontend connection speeds 	Downstream: 3552 Upstream: 384
[14:43] <JoshT76> is there a way to transcode to stream a better video than just changing the bit rates?
[14:44] <JoshT76> like with a post recording transcode to a HD streamable format?
[17:22] <Zinn> [freenode.net] freenode: frequently-asked questions
[18:17] <superm1> rhpot1991, what's up with zinn talking about freenode?
[18:17] <Zinn> Hi superm1, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[18:38] <rhpot1991> superm1: I dunno, maybe he got a pm about something?
[18:39] <rhpot1991> superm1: he is coming in with a different address on the new server too, so he lost his ops, I'll have to see if thats something I can specify or not
[19:20] <superm1> easily fixed
[19:25] <rhpot1991> superm1: ya, I'd like to look into if I can control it as well
[19:30] <ryan> How does this log grabber work in MCC?  I'm on a fresh install, I checked off frontend and it just gives me "http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/" as the url
[19:32] <ryan_555> oh hm, bug it seems
[19:32] <ryan_555> can I update just that package with the fix?
[19:45] <ryan_555> anyone know the syntax for applying diff patches?
[19:48] <ryan_555> had to copy it to /usr/share/mythbuntu first and run patch -p0 < 57_56.diff
[20:16] <Shadow__X> using filesystem permissions is there a way to stop users the ability to delete
[20:16] <Shadow__X> i still want to read write and execute just not to delete
[20:17] <Shadow__X> ryan_555: on mythbuntu we use the autobuilds repo
[20:17] <Shadow__X> so updates are handled through aptitude
[20:23] <ryan_555> would I be able to specifically update mythbuntu-log-grabber and mythnetvision?
[20:24] <ryan_555> those seem to be the only issues I'm having at the moment.  not hugely concerned about netvision but would be cool to use.
[20:32] <Shadow__X> or quit
[23:04] <linxeh> hi there, I know this is a bit off topic, but is there any easy way to get vlc/mplayer to use vdpau on lucid?
[23:05] <linxeh> or is there a more appropriate place to ask (other than the main ubuntu channel where nobody has a clue what I'm asking?)
[23:08] <mrand> linxeh: If google doesn't turn up anything, I'd think you could find something searching ubuntu forums.  As a last resort, you could ask on #mythtv-users, but as you said, it's pretty off-topic.
[23:09] <linxeh> :o all I've found in the forums is things for older versions of ubuntu, and compiling from source
[23:09] <linxeh> ok, never mind :)
[23:09] <linxeh> thanks
[23:18] <rhpot1991> linxeh: google should point you at a ppa that has support for mplayer
[23:18] <rhpot1991> I read that vlc got support at some point, dunno if thats been packaged anywhere though
[23:38] <linxeh> ok, thanks, I hadnt thought of searching for PPAs


[00:52] <Omnifrog|laptop> hi wrst
[12:48] <aedend> http://news.softpedia.com/news/fcc-proposal-would-make-it-impossible-to-install-open-source-firmware-on-routers-491029.shtml
[17:43] <cyberanger> I've seen that story a few times, think it's been twisted by a few parties to tell a story they want
[17:44] <cyberanger> It's worth making a comment on the proposal all the same


[00:30] <Curbuntu> Back again...
[00:31]  * penguin42 won't be here long - it's 1:30am
[00:32] <Curbuntu> Ah, you're in the "UK" of "Ubuntu-UK"!
[00:33] <penguin42> I am
[00:36] <Curbuntu> Well, perhaps I can check back Monday...
[00:38] <penguin42> Curbuntu: I'd try an Ubuntu server install, and if that gets you to a text login reliably try installing the GUI (ubuntu-desktop)
[00:39] <penguin42> right, bed - good luck
[00:39] <Curbuntu> Thanks!
[09:51] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:04] <Laney> nyah
[10:59] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:01] <brobostigon> afternoonings czajkowski
[11:14] <bigcalm> Afternoon
[11:15] <brobostigon> afternoonings bigcalm
[11:21] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon, all well?
[11:32] <brobostigon> bigcalm: not bad, and you?
[11:54] <bigcalm> Touch warm, shouldn't complain as it's summer :)
[11:55] <brobostigon> true, it is humid.
[12:02] <jacobw> afternoon
[12:04] <christel> bigclam \o/
[12:04] <bigcalm> christel: *tickle*
[12:08] <christel> how are yooou
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> Massa purple
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> Grosjean purple
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> wwe :)
[12:13] <bigcalm> christel: excited that the RAT is just 6 days away!
[12:13] <bigcalm> christel: how are you my dear?
[12:16] <AlanBell> RAT \o/
[12:19] <christel> oh my is it only 6 days!
[12:19] <christel> :D
[12:19] <bigcalm> RAT and a week off
[12:19] <bigcalm> Oh, might be a good time to discuss what's happening on the evening of the 14th.
[12:19] <bigcalm> What train are people getting from Farnham?
[12:22] <bigcalm> The RAT leaves Alton at 19:20
[12:22] <bigcalm> 18:56 from Farnham gets to Alton at 19:10
[12:22] <bigcalm> Might be cutting it fine
[12:23] <bigcalm> 18:26 from Farnham get to Alton at 18:39
[12:23] <bigcalm> Better safe than sorry?
[12:25] <bigcalm> And do we stay on the train for the 2nd trip up and down the line?
[13:03]  * penguin42 wonders what a RAT is
[13:05] <popey> Real Ale Train
[13:05] <popey> AKA Beer Train
[13:05] <bigcalm> Ale \o/
[13:09] <christel> \o/
[13:10] <popey> \o/ trains
[13:11] <penguin42> ah
[13:23] <shauno> heavy machinery and beer.  proof indeed that FSM loves us
[13:25] <AlanBell> bigcalm: yes, it trundles back and forth a couple of times, generally a pint in each direction works well
[13:25] <bigcalm> AlanBell: splendid!
[13:25] <christel> :)
[13:26]  * bigcalm shall take beer tokens
[13:26] <bigcalm> Which train should we get from Farnham?
[13:27] <bigcalm> And are there any thoughts on eating?
[13:28] <AlanBell> they generally do stuff on the train, normally sausages and an English curry
[13:28] <AlanBell> (i.e. one with rasins in it)
[13:29] <bigcalm> Ug
[13:30] <bigcalm> Hayley and I should be in Farnham by middayish (if we make a good and early start from here)
[13:30] <AlanBell> chilli and rice too I think
[13:30] <bigcalm> Mmm, chilli
[13:50] <SuperEngineer> Also just been suffering the "smurf bug" ob BBC feed with nVidia card...
[13:51] <SuperEngineer> ...on the optimistic side - it is a wonderful inter-racial equaliser
[13:51] <penguin42> smurf bug?
[13:52] <SuperEngineer> recent update to BBC feed player makes all appear in a  blue hue
[13:53] <popey> bug 967091
[13:53] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: recent update to BBC feed player makes all appear in a  blue hue - it's a bug dicussed a while back but today was my first experience of it :(
[13:53] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/967091/comments/171
[13:53] <popey> that comment has a suggested workaround
[13:53] <penguin42> oh wacky - why does that bug have a CVE?
[13:54] <Daviey> Alan Lord as a baby? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m302sd3IDZ1qzpw4u.jpg
[13:54] <penguin42> oh, I guess because it's a security update that bought it in...
[13:54]  * SuperEngineer "kisses" popey [metaforically only!] - thanks
[13:55] <SuperEngineer> [p.s. metaphor is spelt with a "ph" - you stupid SuperEngineer]
[13:57] <Daviey> I don't think you can kiss someone as a metaphor.
[13:58] <SuperEngineer> Daviey: well I am *not* going to do it for real - that's definite!
[13:59] <Daviey> You may well be committed.
[13:59] <SuperEngineer> ;D
[14:00] <Daviey> (no duff)
[15:27] <ali1234> popey: that workaround is not good
[15:28] <ali1234> there are better ones in other comments
[15:35] <popey> cool thanks ali1234 , that was just the first one i saw
[16:23] <ali1234> now looking at the manual focus controls on my webcam and wondering if i can make my own leap motion with it
[16:24] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: is that the kinectish thing?
[16:24] <ali1234> yes
[16:24] <ali1234> wow the C910 actually has a 2592x1944 CCD
[16:28] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[16:29] <pr0ph3t> is it really that difficult to change cursor theme in Ubuntu 12.04, or is it just me? Where should the theme be installed to work properly as opposed to only on certain windows etc?
[17:00] <dogmatic69> Looks like the 74 year record is not being broken today
[17:23] <brobostigon> ghostbusters 1, ch5, :)
[17:24] <jacobw> 74 year record?
[17:25] <popey> jacobw, wimbledon
[17:32] <penguin42> jacobw: Something to do with balls
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> jacobw: something to do with waving off the National Express back to Scotland
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> [& in every sense - Scotland The Brave]
[17:37] <AlanBell> ali1234: gosh, can you access it all?
[17:47] <brlabs> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/149747_367954626594233_1935601043_n.jpg
[18:01] <ali1234> AlanBell: yes
[18:03] <ali1234> http://ubuntuone.com/6SvKcpfcpADLKC0AlgihAm
[18:04] <ali1234> brlabs: you forgot 6 surface to air missile installation
[18:05] <ali1234> AlanBell: camera can also supply data in multiple formats. so it can do about 10fps in the max resolution by doing MJPG
[18:06] <ali1234> or it can do like 1/2 fps if you do YUV, but it's higher quality
[18:10] <ali1234> about the only thing it is missing is optical zoom
[18:17] <ali1234> another one with auto white balance turned on http://ubuntuone.com/7MhYrxLTXiqz67D7gJwB2L
[18:26] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Stuart Langridge] Speakers all over the house - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/07/08/speakers-all-over-the-house
[18:33] <ali1234> http://ubuntuone.com/0E8cQ2uhaCVY3V2cDsOnwE - here's a set of 11 images through the range of focus settings on the camera
[18:33] <ali1234> accordingly you should be able to produce a 3d model of the toy car accurate to 0.01mm using this data :)
[18:36] <penguin42> ali1234: I'd like to play with http://www.miicraft.com/  to print it with
[20:02] <MartijnVdS> http://i.imgur.com/7TYUQ.jpg
[20:03] <ali1234> hur hur hur
[20:05] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: but isn't it true?
[20:05] <ali1234> i don't think mercury exists in liquid for in the environment, so no
[20:06] <MartijnVdS> :'(
[20:07] <ali1234> it reminds me of that joke: what do you get if you throw a piano down a mine shaft?
[20:08] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: something about a flat minor
[20:20] <Darael> ali1234: Ah, but what do you get if you throw a piano in the army?
[20:21] <hamitron> pat on the back for been so strong?
[20:22] <Darael> Probably, actually, yes.  Unless you cause a flat major, in which case you probably get court-martialled.
[20:22] <hamitron> hehe, yeh :D
[20:48] <dogmatic69> bug 639616
[21:04] <gnuisnotlinux> print "Hello World"
[21:05] <Darael> gnuisnotlinux: You're in an IRC client, not a Python shell :P
[21:05] <gnuisnotlinux> syntax error?
[21:05] <Darael> (format t "But anyway, greetings")
[21:13] <gnuisnotlinux> Wow, there's going to be a new car based on linux
[21:13] <gnuisnotlinux> ...the kernal
[21:13] <gnuisnotlinux> kernel*
[21:13] <ali1234> the karnel?
[21:14] <gnuisnotlinux> apparently they are having trouble finding drivers for it
[21:14] <ali1234> hur hur hur
[21:15] <gnuisnotlinux> :D
[21:18] <directhex> as long as it doesn't crash unexpectedly
[21:21] <gnuisnotlinux> fellas, getting kind of nervious
[21:21] <gnuisnotlinux> what tips for interviews have you got?
[21:21] <brobostigon> well, you wouldnt want a car, with a bug, as to opposite interpret in controls/
[21:21] <brobostigon> input*
[21:33] <dwatkins> I would, however, download a car if I could.
[21:41] <gnuisnotlinux> soon
[21:41] <gnuisnotlinux> 3d printing
[21:58] <popey> debian bug 116890
[21:59] <gnuisnotlinux> ouch
[21:59] <gnuisnotlinux> flash
[22:02] <popey> just abusing the bot
[22:02] <popey> gnuisnotlinux, whats the job?
[22:02] <gnuisnotlinux> 1st tier tech support
[22:03] <popey> gnuisnotlinux, good luck
[22:03] <gnuisnotlinux> cheers!
[22:04] <popey> gord, is there any easy way to read the current filter settings via Unity.RadioOptionFilter or something?
[22:05] <gnuisnotlinux> I'll put you through to 2nd tier for that one
[22:05] <popey> hah
[22:06]  * popey finds get_option
[22:06]  * popey fiddles
[22:07] <gord> popey, honestly couldn't tell you :) don't think i've ever even looked at the lens side of filters and not looked at the unity side in over a year
[22:07] <popey> ok, no worries :D
[22:08] <gord> i don't think i've ever actually used filters in the dash
[22:08] <gord> i mean apart from testing/debugging/making them
[22:09] <popey> yeah, I'm making one for the shopping lens
[22:09] <popey> https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-shopping
[22:09] <popey> fun
[22:09] <popey> bigcalm did the backend stuff, I'm playing with lenses
[22:10] <gord> cool, so its even easier for me to buy stuff on amazon? thats just what my bank balance needs :(
[22:10] <popey> haha
[22:10] <gord> i bought something on amazon today purely because it said i had one minute left to order it to get it delivered by monday
[22:11] <popey> sophie came to my desk and asked if i could order some pens for her
[22:11] <gord> iruno if it'll be any good, but its already been shipped
[22:11] <popey> i went to amazon and found them, £10.18, got her to raid her piggy bank and gimmie the money and then ordered them, and a vi book :D
[22:12] <popey> i places the order at about 6pm on friday, the book arrived 10am saturday!
[22:12] <popey> pens due tomorrow
[22:12] <popey> oh, and sophie tricked me into buying some tape for my label machines
[22:12] <gord> amazon prime? i love amazon prime
[22:12] <popey> yeah
[22:12] <popey> me too
[22:13] <popey> I only recently discovered you could share it with people
[22:13] <popey> i shared mine with my wife and mother in law
[22:13] <gord> oh really?
[22:13] <popey> don't think mother in law figured it out though
[22:13] <popey> yeah
[22:13] <popey> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=lp_mem_help?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200182130
[22:13] <popey> "How do I share Amazon Prime with members of my household?"
[22:14] <gord> ah, same household
[22:14] <popey> yeah
[22:14] <gord> i really wish i could get the evening deliveries
[22:15] <popey> what, order 6pm, get it 9pm ? :)
[22:15] <popey> I WANT NAO!
[22:15] <gnuisnotlinux> did you know that japans population may drop 33% by 2060 due to a decling sex drive
[22:16] <gord> no, you don't understand, i really need that bit of cable or whatever it was
[22:16] <gord> super bad
[22:16] <gord> one day when i have kids, this is exactly what i will do http://imgur.com/a/wIPnF
[22:17] <gnuisnotlinux> They should adapt a policy we have in the UK
[22:17] <gnuisnotlinux> Binge Drinking
[22:24] <dwatkins> gord: that's mean and extremely funny
[22:24] <gord> annoying thing is that i would *love* a gameboy colour!
[22:24] <dwatkins> gord: indeed, as would I - any child of mine should appreciate this by the time they are old enough to use such a device
[22:25] <dwatkins> mind you, I have plans to teach my kids 6502 assembly as soon as they can read.


[03:51] <Mooncairn> I found that I could reset all of nautilus's settings using gsettings and for a time that seemed to have worked. Only for a time.
[03:53] <Mooncairn> Now I've installed nemo and set that up, and I no longer need to care about nautilus (even if there's still a zombie process getting silently launched now and then).
[13:47] <jrwren> chmod 0 /usr/bin/nautilus* or apt purge nautilus?
[14:58] <cmaloney> I'd love to know why Nautilus is being a pain for you, but not at the expense of your productivity.