[20:10] <tom__> guntbert: phil_fl:  has it ever been in the repositories?  like in some early alpha version or so?  because the tab-completion of aptitude finds the freecad package on my computer.,..   seems like if something left "a trace" of it on my computer.. although I personally nevere installed it...
[20:10] <ShrinkRap> Well, this has been fun.  Back to the forums, I guess.
[20:11] <Tartaros> grawity: thanks
[20:11] <falcokian> Linux (Back | Track) is preloaded with almost every hacking tool and it is the best OS for hackers
[20:11] <phil_fl> tom__ I don't think so I kind of remember some binary for 64x on sourceforge
[20:11] <Elmaron> falcokian: indeed
[20:11] <falcokian> i hope Windows 7 will get more security..
[20:11] <tom__> hmm.  now that is certainly strange---
[20:11] <Flannel> falcokian: Please take offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[20:11] <mah2223> mah2223: hi guys, ubuntu on my laptop (when its on battery) boots up with the brightness down. any ideas on how to make it boot up with the brightness up?
[20:11] <falcokian> sorry..
[20:11] <usser_> Roasted_, http://net.cs.uni-bonn.de/wg/cs/applications/containing-conficker/
[20:12] <guntbert> tom__: no idea, sorry - but I've seen reports of spurious traces of apps in the database
[20:12] <^REPSOL^> ciao a tutti
[20:12] <usser_> Roasted_, this page contains a link to scs tool, i havent used so i cant vouch for it
[20:12] <xzachtmx> Is there some guide i can use to fix my internet connection on 9.10?
[20:12] <medion> co
[20:12] <messi> admin
[20:12] <Younder> xzachtmx, what is wrong?
[20:12] <Roasted_> usser_ - I'd like to figure out how users are using zenmap to detect conficker. I cant seem to figure out where the switch is to make it pick up
[20:13] <xzachtmx> my wired OR wireless connection both wont work.   Ive searched forums and all and nothing could solve this.  Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[20:13] <Younder> xzachtmx, It is not like all users have a problem with internet.
[20:13] <lomez> hey all, so i have clamtk (the gui front end for clamav) and it installed correctly but under  Virus Definitions it has a green checkmark and says "None Found." do i have no virus definitons? anyone idea?
[20:13] <puff> Hi, two questions.  First, is there a friendlier google IM app than pidgin?  It seems kinda user-unfriendly.
[20:13] <usser_> Roasted_, havent used zenmap sorry
[20:13] <puff> And second, what do people use for doing google voice?
[20:13] <carpunky__> Am I doing something wrong ? I install Ubuntu...do the updates..etc....is there something else i should do....I keep crashing
[20:13] <fl0pser> where can I find kernel headers for 2.6.18? Please help! no one would answer me :(
[20:13] <guntbert> Roasted_: maybe the people in ##networking know more...
[20:13] <Younder> xzachtmx, IYou have to be more spesific.
[20:14] <gerrh> anyone running 9.10 on a lenovo ideapad s12 in here?
[20:14] <davidboy> xzachtmx: what kind of computer do you have
[20:14] <Roasted_> guntbert - Im in that channel as well at the moment
[20:14] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations!
[20:14] <guntbert> Roasted_: :)
[20:14] <Fenix|work> Where do I change the startup options for rsyslogd?
[20:14] <Roasted_> guntbert - I'm trying to find a good tool whether its windows based or linux based. I just need to find something - hence why I'm in networking + ubuntu, since I think ubuntu users might be a bit more familiar with the avialable apps that may be up my alley
[20:15] <fl0pser> Where can I find kernel headers for 2.6.18? Please help! no one would answer me :(
[20:15] <mah2223> hi guys, maybe more generally- is there any place to adjust things that happen when ubuntu boots up? like screen brightness, things being mounted, and programs that start up automatically?
[20:15] <xzachtmx> The one that isnt working is a 4 year old dell desktop with a wireless dongle and also a wired connection to the modem.  The connection was fine before i upgraded and it automaticly configured.  Now, the network dosent even launch with that icon on the task pannel when i boot it up.
[20:15] <trism> Roasted_: there is a short section on zenmap with conficker here http://wikis.uit.tufts.edu/confluence/display/Conficker/Conficker+Resource+Page although it looks like you just use the command from nmap
[20:15] <guntbert> Roasted_: I understand but cannot give any advice - sorry
[20:15] <xzachtmx> it detects my ethernet, though
[20:15] <usser_> Roasted_, http://net.cs.uni-bonn.de/wg/cs/applications/containing-conficker/ here's a python script that detects if the system was infected.
[20:15] <Tartaros> mah2223: as for programs that start, some of them are in main menu - startup apps
[20:16] <Roasted_> trism - thats fine. command line or not
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, a good tool for doing what ?
[20:16] <mah2223> great i'll check that out, thanks alot tartaros
[20:16] <crazyspai> Is there a way to extend the panels across 2 screens?
[20:16] <Younder> Fenix|work, it's in etc somewhere. for a 'find /etc -name * -exec grep -n syslogd {} \;' and see what it finds
[20:16] <Roasted_> blueskaj - I work on a windows network, and we have conficker... like 1800 computers and no idea WHICH ones are infected, but we know some are.
[20:16] <grawity> Younder: "-name *" is guaranteed to fail.
[20:16] <sam__> hello, could anybody help me with my new Dell Inspiron 1545 wireless????
[20:16] <tom__> guntbert:  phil_fl thx anyway :) I will just try the version on the website then... :)
[20:17] <Younder> ah quotes areond the '*'
[20:17] <mah2223> is there an easy way to have a partition mounted at startup?
[20:17] <grawity> Younder: And -name '*' is totally useless.
[20:17] <grawity> Younder: As 'find' will list all files anyway.
[20:17] <usser_> !fstab | mah2223
[20:17] <sam__> hello, could anybody help me with my new Dell Inspiron 1545 wireless????
[20:17] <Roasted_> blueskaj - Im trying to find an app, whether on linux or windows, to scan our entire network and find what IP addresses show suspicious conficker activity. Then I can check DHCP logs to find out what computer is on what IP
[20:17] <^REPSOL^> ciao
[20:17] <Ersoy> hello, how can i setup locales on console?
[20:17] <mah2223> great, thanks so much
[20:17] <Younder> Grawity: true
[20:17] <grawity> Younder: grep -rn syslogd /etc would be better, I guess
[20:17] <fl0pser> Where can I find kernel headers for 2.6.18? Please help! no one would answer me :(
[20:18] <Tartaros> mah2223: yeah by editing fstab. you can use pysdm application for helping you with that
[20:18] <carpunky__> how can i save my settings...after reboot, i lose internet and wireless functions
[20:18] <Pici> Younder: find /etc -iname "*syslogd*"     is a more efficient way of doing what you stated.
[20:18] <lunaphyte_> hi.  am i correct in my understanding that there is not yet support for vlan configuration via the gui?
[20:18] <purifiedmadness> puff: try this for google voice http://lifehacker.com/5349506/make-free-voip-calls-from-google-voice i havnt tryed it myself but i was about to
[20:18] <mah2223> thanks a lot guys
[20:18] <mah2223> the only other question is how to adjust the screen brightness with which ubuntu boots up when the comp is running from battery
[20:18] <Ruder> hey guys!
[20:18] <puff> purifiedmadness: Thanks.
[20:18] <Ruder> i'm from chile
[20:18] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, you should really be asking in #windows
[20:18] <Tartaros> mah2223: don't thank till you tried it :P
[20:19] <Roasted_> blueskaj - I know, but I found on google a lot of users were using nmap on linux to nail it - I just dont know how they did it
[20:19] <Younder> I belive the point here is to learn to use automated tools to find it
[20:19] <Tartaros> mah2223: as for brightness, there's the Power Management in Preferences but it's not specifically about bootup
[20:19] <Younder> not the exact method
[20:19] <Fenix|work> what about grep -R syslogd * ?
[20:19] <Fenix|work> which retruns insserv.conf
[20:19] <Fenix|work> returns
[20:19] <grawity> Fenix|work: grep -R syslogd /etc, would be better
[20:19] <Younder> admittibly I could have tried it first
[20:19] <mah2223> yeah i checked out power management
[20:20] <Fenix|work> grawity, am already in /etc ;)
[20:20] <mah2223> exactly, there's nothing about booting
[20:20] <Ruder> you are a really lot of nerd's!
[20:20] <phil_fl> Roasted nmap -PN -T4 -p139,445 -n -v --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args safe=1 [yournetwork]
[20:20] <guntbert> !ot | Ruder
[20:20] <Tartaros> mah2223: also use name: in here when talking to someone :P
[20:20] <grawity> Fenix|work: grep -R syslogd . , then
[20:20] <Younder> Ruder, what did you expect..
[20:20] <Ruder> only speak of Ubuntu...
[20:21] <Tartaros> Ruder: be constructive or leave
[20:21] <mah2223> i'm sorry, what do you mean name: ?
[20:21] <guntbert> Ruder: this channel is for ubuntu support strictly
[20:21] <puff> Roasted_:  I'm pretty sure nmap is available for wubdoiws.,+-**/
[20:21] <puff> Roasted_: Sorry, the dog insisted on putting his head on my keyboard.
[20:21] <Younder> Ruder, we take that as a complemet around here, by the way.
[20:21] <leaf-sheep> Ruder: You're in #ubuntu -- 1632 people exchanging ubuntu-related support/discussion.
[20:21] <Ruder> O! sorry
[20:21] <puff> Younder: Speak for yourself!  Me, I'm a geek :-)
[20:21] <Tartaros> mah2223: when talking to me, say Tartaros: ... otherwise I'm not notified about someone talking to me
[20:22] <mah2223> oh that's how i get notified lol
[20:22] <mah2223> got it
[20:22] <Ruder> scusme... but i don't know
[20:22] <guntbert> !tab | mah2223 makes it easier
[20:22] <phil_fl> !ot > Ruder
[20:22] <puff> Ruder: You do realize you're on this thing called "the internet", right?
[20:22] <mah2223> awesome, thanks
[20:22] <mah2223> you guys are always the best
[20:22] <gnuskool> is it possible to install karmic on an external usb 1TB drive?
[20:22] <Ruder> sorry
[20:23] <Tartaros> gnuskool: certainly
[20:23] <fl0pser> Where can I find kernel headers for 2.6.18? Please help! no one would answer me :(
[20:23] <Ruder> how you can scusme for this?
[20:23] <Silent_Echo> gnuskool yup....
[20:23] <leaf-sheep> gnuskool: Yeah -- But 1TB? You're better off with something smaller. :3
[20:23] <puff> gnuskool: I have no idae re: karmic, but if it can be done with jaunty, etc, I don't see why not.
[20:23] <leaf-sheep> !usb | gnuskool
[20:23] <guntbert> gnuskool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:23] <kiwifunk> holaaaaa!!
[20:23] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, nmap is a good idea , there are several tutorials out there ; sudo nmap -f  IP address will sniff
[20:23] <gnuskool> Thx all!
[20:24] <Ruder> only one ask... what room is for spanish speakers?
[20:24] <guntbert> !es | Ruder
[20:24] <fl0pser> Is there a way to apt-get old kernel headers?
[20:24] <smerdis> Does anyone know how to install j2me 32 bits in  Karmic 64 bits?
[20:24] <Ruder> thanks
[20:24] <Ruder> i'm going
[20:24] <Roasted_> blueskaj - does it pick up conficker by default? I thought it needed a switch to enable conficker sniffing
[20:24] <Ruder> bye!
[20:24] <Ersoy> !locales
[20:24] <Billiard> fl0pser: just apt-get install them
[20:25] <phil_fl> Roasted_,  nmap -PN -T4 -p139,445 -n -v --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args safe=1 [yournetwork]
[20:25] <drogba> http://pastebin.com/m278bc33
[20:25] <Tartaros> fl0pser: guess you need to enable older repositories
[20:25] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, I would do some research on google etc about sniffing it out
[20:25] <drogba> please help me for this problem
[20:25] <Shu> Attention everyone, I need some serious help. Not the kind of help where you link me to something and then don't try anymore, I'm going to need someone committed. Now, here's the problem: I have a Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet Adapter, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my other computer, and I cannot figure out how to make it work. The other computer does not have any internet access what so ever. The items at my disposal: Netgear WND
[20:25] <Shu> A3100 Wireless Internet USB, 2GB Flash Drive. If you need any other information, just ask. P.S.  I need to be spoon fed here. I am completely clueless when it comes to technical stuff like this, sorry.
[20:25] <home> how do i use at command to run simple commands like "ls -l" cd /home or wget http://... etc
[20:25] <FloodBot2> Shu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <fl0pser> Billiard: He wont find them
[20:25] <Roasted_> blueskaj - you dont think I have checked google already? :P
[20:25] <guntbert> !details | drogba
[20:25] <Billiard> fl0pser: what do you need such old versions?
[20:26] <Billiard> fl0pser: why*
[20:26] <leaf-sheep> !terminal | home
[20:26] <smerdis> fl0pser: are you talking to me?
[20:26] <home> ?
[20:26] <Silent_Echo> question to the room: is there an oovoo like program for ubuntu?
[20:26] <blackswan> what's the pointy-clicky way to build a custom kernel these days?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, checking google and researching are not the same thing
[20:26] <drogba> its when i add or update system this massege appearand i cant do any thing
[20:27] <Tartaros> blackswan: the pointy clicky way is not to do it :)
[20:27] <smerdis> Guess not.
[20:27] <guntbert> home: try: at now + 1min  - then enter the command - then ctrl+d
[20:27] <blackswan> what are the tools they use to build the ubuntu kernel packages called
[20:28] <Roasted_> blueskaj - to be blunt, I'm uh.. not an idiot. I've been googling like crazy to find any documentation and tutorials I could. Thanks.
[20:28] <drogba> iam running ubuntu 9.10
[20:28] <Tartaros> Shu: stopped reading at "someone committed". Good luck with that.
[20:28] <Shu> Attention everyone, I need some serious help. Here's the problem: I have a Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet Adapter, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my other computer, and I cannot figure out how to make it work on that computer. The other computer does not have any internet access what so ever. The items at my disposal: Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet USB, and a 2GB Flash Drive. If you need any other information, just ask. P.S. Thi
[20:28] <Shu> s computer that I am on is a dinosaur, so it may not be up to par with what you need me to do with it. P.S.S. I need to be spoon fed here. I am completely clueless when it comes to technical stuff like this, sorry.
[20:28] <phil_fl> Roasted_, you saw my command to find conficker right ?
[20:28] <home> will do, i min
[20:28] <ERROR> im installing 9.10 right now and when i done partitioning i get this error Fats Don't match.If you don't know what this means, then select cancel, run scandisk on the file system
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, I had to ask , don't take offence
[20:28] <Younder> Yes, ooVoo will be releasing a version for Ubuntu.
[20:28] <tuxxie> I have a huge file and I need to retrive on folder from it. the issue is I am unsure if the folder name had caps in it. is there a way to tell tar to not care about case
[20:29] <Roasted_> phil - what does your network refer to? the domain?
[20:29] <Younder> Not sure they are there yet.
[20:29] <Tartaros> ERROR: so, did you select cancel and ran scandisk?
[20:29] <blackswan> i'm having a bizarre problem
[20:29] <coder2> Hi
[20:29] <blackswan> and it's probably due to a kernel problem
[20:29] <Silent_Echo> Younder, eta on ubuntu compatiable oovoo?
[20:29] <phil_fl> Roasted_ well your network like a <IP_ADDRESS> something your network segment depends of your architecture
[20:29] <drogba> please any help
[20:29] <blackswan> and it's been a couple years since i built a linux kernel
[20:29] <Tartaros> ERROR: or more like, fsck not scandisk
[20:29] <blackswan> so i'm sure the magic words have changed
[20:29] <drogba> iam new user
[20:30] <drogba> ubuntu 9.10
[20:30] <phil_fl> Roasted_,  could be <IP_ADDRESS>-255 for instance
[20:30] <blackswan> can somebody point me in the right direction?
[20:30] <coder2> I've just installed 9.10 x64. DNS does not work. Please help.
[20:30] <Roasted_> phil - ah I see, I thought it was looking for 1 IP address, not a range.
[20:30] <lomez> drogba, please place your problem and question in one sentence
[20:30] <leaf-sheep> !kernel | blackswan
[20:30] <lomez> coder2, your DNS doesnt work, have you tried using openDNS?
[20:30] <ERROR> Tartaros: ok thanks "sudo fsck /" ?
[20:31] <phil_fl> Roasted_, no you can specify a range with 0-255 or even with /8
[20:31] <coder2> lomez: What are you talting about ? sorry, but I do not know
[20:31] <nostalgicBadger> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu on a netbook. I kind of want a less bloated distro, but my USB only boots from certain drives, and I don't own one. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for stripping down Ubuntu?
[20:31] <Tartaros> ERROR: do that from an external boot, like from a live cd/usb
[20:31] <Roasted_> phil - hot stuff man, and that command is specifically for detecting conficker activity?
[20:31] <home> nothing happens mate when i type the at + 1min
[20:31] <ERROR> Tartaros: im on a live cd now ;)
[20:31] <MoTec> nostalgicBadger: are you using Ubuntu Netbook Remix?  Runs great on my Mini-9
[20:31] <Tartaros> ERROR: ok then, fsck the partition it told you to
[20:31] <heehe_bt> nick JBLew
[20:32] <phil_fl> Roasted_, what it will do it will scan the computer and find a way to scan if the computer is infected with the worm
[20:32] <blackswan> ubottu: the kernel compilation wiki you refer me to is out of date
[20:32] <nostalgicBadger> MoTec - yeah, I am. It runs fine, but it does a lot more than I need it to do.
[20:32] <fl0pser> tartaros: how do I do that?
[20:32] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: get the minimal ubuntu, and then apt-get what you want :)
[20:32] <fl0pser> tartaros: how do I enable older repos?
[20:32] <Younder> nostalgicBadger, Ubuntu install is already pretty minimal
[20:32] <MoTec> nostalgicBadger: you can just start removing packages you don't need need, like open office, etc.
[20:33] <Younder> nostalgicBadger, Can't say I'd recommend stripping it down further
[20:33] <leaf-sheep> !minimal | nostalgicBadger
[20:33] <ERROR> nostalgicBadger: or you could try debian , Ubuntu's older brother
[20:33] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - that would be ideal, but then ideally, I would wipe the whole system and install Arch or something. Unfortunately, I don't have a device from which I can boot, so without borrowing my friend's USB drive (again), I've got to work with what i have.
[20:33] <drogba> when i update or add a pakage  i have problem and this is amasege
[20:33] <drogba> http://pastebin.com/m278bc33
[20:33] <coder2> So, no ideas about DNS? Looks like it makes mad my DSL router.
[20:33] <fl0pser> how do i add older repositories?
[20:33] <Tartaros> fl0pser: depends on what do you mean by "older", but if you upgraded say from 9.04 to 9.10 then the repositories are still there, just disabled. So go to the Repositories menu in Synaptic, or Software sources in Administration, and do whatever you need
[20:34] <saji> hello, i have a problem with mounting an NTFS partition...
[20:34] <crazyspai> Is there a way to expand the panel into both screens?
[20:34] <Younder> nostalgicBadger, You can boot it from a CD if you don't want to use HD space
[20:34] <leaf-sheep> crazyspai: Make a new panel. Hold ALT and drag the new panel to the second monitor.
[20:34] <nostalgicBadger> Also, I know there's a kernel mod for Arch designed to support only the hardware for the Aspire One, but I'm not sure if it works with Ubuntu.
[20:34] <Neverhood> expand? what do you mean
[20:34] <Neverhood> >
[20:34] <crazyspai> Leaf-sheep: Thanks
[20:34] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: sorry I don't understand your problem. But I would suggest starting by buying your own usb flashdisk, they're cheap
[20:34] <nostalgicBadger> Younder - it's a netbook. no CD
[20:35] <drogba> please help me
[20:35] <fl0pser> Tartaros: I run ubuntu server 9.04 and need to ap-get linux-headers for version 2.6.18
[20:35] <ERROR> nostalgicBadger: could you not resize a partition , then make the partition into a arch isntaller?
[20:35] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - yeah, I bought an 8gb drive the other day, but my netbook won't boot from it. it seems to boot from USB selectively, and apparently the one I bought is one it does not like.
[20:35] <coder2> How to get rid of IPv6 stuff ?
[20:35] <engine252> hi, i have a problem with the nvidia drivers in ubuntu 9.10
[20:35] <carpunky__> what is the command to check for system errors
[20:35] <leaf-sheep> nostalgicBadger: Buy a USB. It's only 10 bucks. Give or take. You need one of your own. Use Ubuntu Minimal to install barebone.  Are you sure you're installing it right, and setting the bios boot sequence too?
[20:36] <leaf-sheep> crazyspai: Right-click on panel goodies. Unlock. And repeat, Move.
[20:36] <crazyspai> Thank you both.
[20:36] <redrebel> join #linuxperu
[20:36] <Younder> engine252, I also use a NVIDEA driver on 9.10, what is your problem
[20:36] <redrebel> how do I check the the process priority after changing  the nice level
[20:36] <Tartaros> fl0pser: sorry then I dunno in which repository is this particular version, if in any...
[20:36] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - it works with some sticks, and not with others. I was using my friend's for a few days. boots fine from that. with my Attache, it just freezes at the Acer logo
[20:37] <mgv2> why replying in evolution is in the same line with the text below?
[20:37] <engine252> i installed the nvidia 185 driver but when rebooted i got strange artefacts and after 2 min or so the pc started stuttering and eventualy freezes
[20:37] <Silent_Echo> redrebel whats #linuxperu channel about?
[20:37] <drogba> please any help
[20:37] <saji> hello, i have a problem with mounting an NTFS partition...
[20:37] <Younder> engine252, Where did you get the driver?
[20:37] <saji> please help me....
[20:37] <nostalgicBadger> i tried unetbootin on both. his works. mine doesn't. it's pretty weird. I tried flashing to updated bios, but the DOS updater doesn't seem to do anything
[20:37] <engine252> from the restricted driver installer
[20:38] <Younder> engine252, ugh, that should have worked..
[20:38] <fl0pser> Tartaros: So what can I do?
[20:38] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: so try putting the minimal image on the given partition directly
[20:38] <saji> help me please....
[20:38] <jetienne_> q. i get a ext3 fs, how can i make it exT 4?
[20:38] <redrebel> Silent_Echo, it's a linux channel in spanish
[20:38] <Silent_Echo> redrebel, thx thx
[20:38] <Roasted_> back your stuff up, format to ext4, bring data back over
[20:39] <Younder> engine252, talk to the NVIDEA guys and report the bug. Hopefully they have a fix
[20:39] <engine252> everything worked fine in ubuntu 9.04. but now my pc crashes
[20:39] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - is it possible to put an installer image on my / partition? I've got / and /home, but it's not booting from home right now
[20:39] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, maybe this will help<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:39] <drogba> hello
[20:39] <engine252> i'm talking to the nvidia guys but nobody seems to but there
[20:39] <yos> What is the path where program files go ?
[20:40] <saji> hello anybody willing to help here?
[20:40] <ERROR> im worried ubuntu istaller did not ask me to format he partition it do that automaticly?
[20:40] <Mattz> Hello, Trying to install karmic on A64 3700, Geforce 6800 512mb 1gb ram on an AL1715 monitor. Monitor displays "Input not Supported" after the ubuntu logo disappears during startup. Terminal can be accessed via Ctr Alt F1. Any thoughts?
[20:40] <phil_fl> BluesKaj, yes it does help I think this is the best way to find it ie: the command Iposted ...
[20:40] <Neverhood> hi, what is 'mic boos' and 'dock mic' for in alsamixer?
[20:40] <guntbert> !fhs | yos
[20:40] <drogba> please help me
[20:40] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: umm what? "not booting from home"? I don't understand... but you can certainly put it on a separate partition and then install to the final one
[20:40] <Younder> engine252, well your timing sucks it's a friday. Try again on monday
[20:41] <phil_fl> !ask > drogba
[20:41] <saji> yos, it genrally goes to /bin and /usr/bin
[20:41] <drogba> i ask you
[20:41] <yos> Ok, thank you
[20:41] <drogba> but not result
[20:41] <phil_fl> !tab | drogba
[20:41] <drogba> i send my problem in pastebin
[20:41] <saji> yos, was that to me?
[20:41] <saji> !name
[20:42] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - what I'm saying is, I only have two partitions -- three if you count SWAP -- and I can't resize / while I'm running my distro from there
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> Mattz, from console i'd try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185" i'm hoping that will pull in the kernel requirement as well.  just a suggestion.
[20:42] <saji> drogba, post the link to the pastebin..
[20:42] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: why can't you resize...? what are you running right now?
[20:42] <Mattz> ZykoticK9, will that work in a LiveCD?
[20:42] <drogba> http://pastebin.com/m278bc33
[20:42] <lalanne> Hello folks. I have a computer with no disk drive and am trying to put on some software. I have the cd (no .iso files) and I want to make an exact copy onto a usb so when you pop in the usb it automatically starts. Any help would be much appreciated.
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> Mattz, livecd no i don't think so
[20:42] <xzachtmx> i have  a question .. when entering my mac adress into the network manager does it matter if the pairs of numbers and letters are divided with a dash(-) or a colon(:) ?
[20:42] <leaf-sheep> !usb | lalanne
[20:42] <guntbert> nostalgicBadger: you boot from the live CD, adjust the partitions from there... (if I didn't miss anything important :-)
[20:42] <nostalgicBadger> I'm running Ubuntu. I think you need to unmount a partition to resize it?
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> Mattz, though you had it installed sorry.
[20:43] <jetienne_> q. when updating to 9.10 how can i switch to ext4 without reformating the disk
[20:43] <phil_fl> drogba: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:43] <sam__> hello
[20:43] <Guest87770> drogba  helo
[20:43] <nostalgicBadger> guntbert - I can't boot from the LiveCD. I don't have a CD drive.
[20:43] <sam__> ping
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> lalanne:  you can use the usb-disk-creator tool to make a live-flash drive with a perisstant save file
[20:43] <lalanne> ubottu: Its not Ubuntu software.
[20:43] <Mattz> ZykoticK9, sorry, no such luck. I'm looking for a way to maybe enable "safe graphics" mode and work on it from there
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> jetienne_:  you dont gain  the full benifits of ext4 when convertying from 3 to 4. best to reformat
[20:43] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: well so just ditch the swap and use it :) or something, I don't really know your disk/partition
[20:43] <Younder> lalanne: Can you boot from USB stick. (Check BIOS?)
[20:44] <ERROR> why the bot keep harrasing me?
[20:44] <C00l_AWAY> is mint =ubuntu also?
[20:44] <Tartaros> ERROR: because of your generic word nick
[20:44] <jetienne_> Dr_Willis: reformat is not possible currently
[20:44] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - I have the most space on /home can I put the image on there without losing the data?
[20:44] <phil_fl> ERROR: let say oh because you nick is ERROR maybe ...
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> C00l_AWAY:  its a spinoiff and not official variant.  they got their own channel
[20:44] <lalanne> Dr_Willis: I have tried but its only giving me an iso option. ?
[20:44] <ERROR> right =/
[20:44] <drogba> sudo: command not found
[20:45] <guntbert> ERROR: its not the bot - its your client
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> lalanne:  it wants the iso file. or point it to the cd you booted from perhaps.
[20:45] <Tartaros> nostalgicBadger: you don't need that much space, the minimal ubuntu only has 12mb and no, you can't put the image there without losing data. Probably. I would'nt try it anyway :)
[20:45] <phil_fl> drogba: sudo command not found ?
[20:45] <edbian> I am running a NIS server (and am logged in under a typical nis user right now) some of the items are missing from the gnome menu (e.g. synaptic).  Synaptic the command still works there just isn't a menu item.  Any ideas?
[20:45] <Neverhood> maybe use su?
[20:45] <guntbert> !su | Neverhood
[20:45] <nostalgicBadger> Tartaros - all right. well, i might be able to mount swap and put it on there. How would I boot to /swap instead of / though?
[20:45] <Neverhood> drogba: maybe use su?
[20:45] <Tartaros> edbian: rightclick on menu, edit
[20:46] <guntbert> Neverhood: no
[20:46] <edbian> Tartaros: If I try to add them they simply don't show up and the check box in the menu editor automatically unchecks itself
[20:46] <Neverhood> gunbert: why not?
[20:46] <guntbert> !root | Neverhood
[20:47] <Younder> Neverhood, sudo su in a command shell should only rarely be neccesary
[20:47] <Matthias_M> join #ubuntu-motu
[20:47] <Barridus> what does the little red box with a white X mean on the ubuntuone icon?
[20:47] <lomez> coder2, you know the problem is dns? not something else?
[20:47] <guntbert> Younder: s/rarely/never/
[20:47] <ubuntuGrubIssue> Ok, I think I've finally gotten my grub problem fixed, but in order to do so i need to open a terminal from my UBUNTU partition, not the live cd
[20:47] <edbian> Tartaros: Good guess though! ;)
[20:47] <Tartaros> edbian: that's weird. sorry then...
[20:47] <lalanne> Dr_Willis: I can only seem to open folders until there is no more files left. I know there are files there but it will only show iso.
[20:47] <ubuntuGrubIssue> how do I move off of the live cd to there?
[20:47] <phil_fl> Barridus, that you are connected
[20:47] <Tartaros> edbian: not a guess :P
[20:48] <Younder> guntbert, haven't tested it that exaustivly
[20:48] <drogba> the same problem is still
[20:48] <carpunky__> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7aaa1b5e
[20:48] <guntbert> ubuntuGrubIssue: short answer: mount it, then chroot into it
[20:48] <Tartaros> ubuntuGrubIssue: you either restart or chroot or just cd in there
[20:48] <phil_fl> Barridus, I mean that you are not connected sorry, click on it and select connect
[20:48] <ubuntuGrubIssue> guntbert, so mount /dev/sda6 or whatever, then just type chroot?
[20:48] <saji> Matthias_M, Are you on a canvasing/marketing, or here to help or ask for help?
[20:48] <calebH> hello all - how do I get to a recovery console with the new grub2 setup?  It goes so fast that I can't get the list of boot options...
[20:48] <Barridus> phil_fl, so there's no problem then?  (i doubt i should be connected right now)
[20:49] <guntbert> Younder: if there *really* is the need for a root shell, sudo -s is the recommended way
[20:49] <phil_fl> Barridus, no usually it is ok just do a test put a file in your "ubuntu One" folder it will be updated ...
[20:49] <saji> guntbert, what's the -s option for?
[20:49] <guntbert> ubuntuGrubIssue: chroot <mountpoint>, you can exit with ctrl+d
[20:49] <stryker> Hi guys
[20:49] <mohamad> hi
[20:50] <arand> ubuntuGrubIssue: in general you shouldn't need to chroot though... what is it you're doing?
[20:50] <ubuntuGrubIssue> i typed "chroot /dev/sda7 and it says it cannot change root
[20:50] <drogba> hi
[20:50] <UncleD> Anyone here using nomachine NX*?
[20:50] <Matthias_M> saji I forgot the / sorry for spam
[20:50] <guntbert> saji: you get a root shell with complete environment
[20:50] <detrate_> Has anyone had any luck in getting Intel GMA 4500 working?
[20:50] <stryker> I've been trying forever, but no luck for me. Can anyone please tell me they have gotten Call of Duty4 to run under wine? I need to get it to work!!
[20:50] <ubuntuGrubIssue> i'll just reinstall linux. is there a way to install legacy grub during the live cd instal
[20:50] <Neverhood> hi, what is 'mic boos' and 'dock mic' for in alsamixer?
[20:50] <saji> Matthias_M, np...
[20:50] <drogba> please help me any one
[20:50] <saji> guntbert, thanks...
[20:50] <edbian> I am running a NIS server (and am logged in under a typical nis user right now) some of the items are missing from the gnome menu (e.g. synaptic).  Synaptic the command still works there just isn't a menu item.  Any ideas?
[20:51] <guntbert> saji: you're welcome :-)
[20:51] <Barridus> phil_fl, ok thanks.  the icon looks different than in beta, so i was worried
[20:51] <Mattz> Can anyone tell me how to enable the equivalent of Safe Graphics Mode in Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD?
[20:51] <arand> guntbert: isn't -i the recommended way?
[20:51] <saji> guntbert, i have a problem in mounting my NTFS partition..
[20:51] <guntbert> drogba: please make a complete sentence of your problem
[20:51] <phil_fl> Barridus, I don't remember but mine is fine it usually starts with the cross and update anyway I can click connect too
[20:51] <arand> ubuntuGrubIssue: on Karmic, no.
[20:52] <ubuntuGrubIssue> so should I just install 9.04?
[20:52] <phil_fl> arand: sudo su - is a root with path root sudo -i will brings the path of the user like sudo -s
[20:52] <guntbert> arand: there is only a slight difference - one gives you the complete environment (like a login shell), the other one doesn't
[20:52] <stuartpb> How do I change the startup sound on Karmic? Going to System->Preferences->Sound only lets me choose one of four alert sounds.
[20:52] <IrssiNoMerci> saji:sudo -s = it literally means "sudo to a shell as specified by SHELL enviro-variable" ; the -i means "Initial shell" as per the passwd file shell field entry
[20:53] <lomez> stryker, check her-e http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12804
[20:53] <calebH> hello all - how do I get to a recovery console with the new grub2 setup?  It goes so fast that I can't get the list of boot options...
[20:53] <drogba> i send pastebin link for my problem
[20:53] <carpunky__> I am new to Ubuntu, I have put forth a effort...could someone please read this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7aaa1b5e
[20:53] <stryker> lomez: will check
[20:53] <Andorin> Hi, guys. I'm on Karmic and need a working microphone. Can anyone help?
[20:53] <guntbert> drogba: tell us the problem *here*
[20:53] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, Thanks... Can you help with my mounting problem of NTFS partition?
[20:53] <puff> Argh, I feel like I'm going in circles with this google voice thing.
[20:54] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: for example, if i really want to sudo into a root csh, I could set the envirovariable SHELL to csh then sudo into it with sudo -s
[20:54] <mohamad> hi
[20:54] <stryker> lomez: sorry but ive been there countless times, no luck from reading info in there
[20:54] <arand> stuartpb: sound theme is not configurable by default on karmic I'm afraid
[20:54] <saji> drogba, Often you may have to repeat the problem, more than once, but u'll surely get helped...
[20:54] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: whereas just using sudo -i would give me my normal initial shell (bash on this machine)
[20:54] <billybigrigger> ahhh it finally feels nice to get with the times :P finally broke down and bought a 24" widescreen monitor, wow what a difference
[20:54] <balzac> ni hau
[20:54] <saji> mohamad, | !ask
[20:54] <billybigrigger> ubuntu has awesome font rendering :)
[20:54] <eon01> Hello
[20:55] <lomez> sorry stryker thats probably the best you'll be able to find
[20:55] <drogba> iam new user ubuntu 9.10 when i try add a pakage or ubdate system i have amasege
[20:55] <drogba> http://pastebin.com/m327e69f9
[20:55] <Sweetshark> Hi, how do I change the account picture of a user at the login manager on xubuntu?
[20:55] <stryker> lomez: grr I get mad cuz other people get it to work but I can't -.-
[20:55] <balzac> sqlite + lighthttpd + php + myadmin + drupal = easy?
[20:55] <balzac> probably not yet
[20:56] <Andorin> Hi, guys. I'm on Karmic and need a working microphone. Can anyone help?
[20:56] <eon01> Anyone know how to optimize and accelerate the wifi connection , the access point is a little bit far
[20:56] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, Can u please help me to solve a problem i have in mounting?
[20:56] <stuartpb> How do I propose a location addition to Ubuntu?
[20:56] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: just ask i have to eat soon but other may jump in to help, go ahead
[20:57] <balzac> Andorin: do you have the hardware?
[20:57] <Andorin> balzac: Do you mean, do I have a microphone? ...yes.
[20:57] <arand> Mattz: press F4 at the liveCD menu
[20:58] <puff> Anyone know if there's a better channel for how to set up a bluetooth headset so you can voice chat with people?
[20:58] <Mattz> Ta
[20:58] <Migi32> hey everyone, I hope this is the right place to ask: I want to buy a MIDI keyboard to ease toying with ubuntu studio etc, but the last thing I want to do is spend $500 to find out it doesn't work in ubuntu yet. Is there a list of supported MIDI keyboards somewhere? Or should it "just work" because MIDI is a standard protocol? Please help
[20:58] <drogba> where are you my freinds
[20:58] <Younder> Andorin, ubuntu supports microphones
[20:58] <drogba> please help
[20:58] <balzac> Andorin: does your audio work yet?
[20:58] <Andorin> Younder: I'd hope so. I therefore wonder why mine isn't working at all when I plug it in.
[20:58] <balzac> do you like my questions?
[20:58] <Andorin> balzac: Yes.
[20:58] <Younder> Andorin, anything unusual about yours?
[20:58] <drogba> i send my problem many times
[20:59] <Flannel> Migi32: It ought to just work because MIDI is standardized.  However googling for "Ubuntu [model]" isn't ever a bad idea (I don't know of any midi keyboard compatability lists)
[20:59] <Andorin> Younder: Nope, it's just some headphone/microphone headset piece.
[20:59] <davidboy> reconect
[20:59] <eddvrs> Migi32: also check out the #ubuntu-studio channel- chaps there should be able to help you.
[20:59] <balzac> Andorin: so your microphone works or it does not?
[20:59] <Migi32> k ty
[20:59] <Andorin> balzac: Yes, to the extent of my knowledge this microphone functions fine.
[21:00] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, I was copying a file to my NTFS partitions, then my laptop's battery was over, it got powered off... Now I'm unable to mount that partition as any user except root....
[21:00] <Younder> Andorin, well ubuntu needs seperate microphone from sound output
[21:00] <Bauldrick> hi - i'm trying to configure a program to build, but it cant guess my build type... I know I can say like ./configure --build='bla-bla' - but what is my system missing?
[21:00] <Andorin> Hang on, I think I just got it.
[21:00] <eon01> can any one help me ?   how to optimize and accelerate the wifi connection , the access point is a little bit far ?
[21:00] <carpunky__> Ever heard of this ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7aaa1b5e
[21:00] <Andorin> I had to switch input from microphone 1 to microphone 2.
[21:00] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: ok, sometimes a NTFS filseystemgets marked as "dirty" due to a incomplete unmount
[21:01] <Younder> Andorin,  further it continues to send sound through the other channels. unlike windows
[21:01] <Andorin> ^
[21:01] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: were u using NTFS-3G to mount the f/s ?
[21:01] <balzac> IrssiNoMerci: what is your IRC client
[21:01] <Andorin> Younder: I said I got it. I had to switch the input.
[21:01] <Younder> Andorin,  fine
[21:01] <IrssiNoMerci> balzac: irrsi, in a screen, over ssh through a couple of routers haha
[21:02] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, How can I know that? I just click the partition in NAutilus, and it gets mounted.. No idea about the internals...
[21:02] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: ok thats the NTFS-3G way then I think
[21:02] <puff> drogba: You still there?
[21:02] <drogba> yes
[21:02] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: via fuse etc , 1 minute please
[21:02] <guntbert> drogba: try (as question) something like: I'm using ubuntu 9.10. When i try to add a pakage or ubdate the system i only get  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libudev0_147~-6.1_i386.deb: subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status
[21:02] <drogba> yes
[21:02] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, ok...
[21:02] <lomez> stryker, haha good luck man :) ive heard its sweet
[21:03] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: do you have Micro$oft Windows on the amchine as well? can you boot into windows and check the drive that way?
[21:03] <guntbert> drogba: I know, I just pasted it together  - but this way all people in the channel will see your problem, not only those who look into the pastebin
[21:04] <eon01> help me please
[21:04] <balzac> IrssiNoMerci: are you consternated about privacy?
[21:04] <Younder> if so this is not the place to be
[21:04] <IrssiNoMerci>  balzac: no I have a mess of machines and cables here - rofl
[21:04] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, I'm able to mount the partition as root, in Ubuntu itself, and it works fine in Windows Vista too...
[21:05] <balzac> I have a special security algorithm that keeps people off my servers who don't need to be there
[21:05] <balzac> My special package is called the "TBPB"
[21:05] <balzac> you can't find it on any repositories
[21:05] <drogba> ok
[21:05] <carpunky__> anyone ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7aaa1b5e
[21:05] <balzac> it stands for "THE BIG PAYBACK"
[21:06] <arand> Sweetshark: System>preferences>about me>*click the icon button
[21:06] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: OK, i'd recommend running the Vista diskcheck, is it checkdisk? maybe? , just becasue you shut down uncleanly. its a Miscor$oft f/s, so they know the real secrets :)
[21:06] <balzac> so that's why I remain unperturbed about running irssi on my servers
[21:06] <Younder> balzac, what does it do?
[21:06] <balzac> it delivers the goods
[21:06] <Younder> balzac, Now i am curious?
[21:06] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, So no Ubuntu way to do things??
[21:07] <balzac> it does it all, actually
[21:07] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: are you sure its not just asking for "sudo" style authentication to mount the f/s? I dont run NTFS you see, but I ythink maybe it likes you to be n admin user....perhaps
[21:07] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: but like i said, if it shut down uncleanly best be safe and check under windoze
[21:07] <cow1> !beer Billiard
[21:07] <Younder> balzac, I wrote a tool called Thor a whie back.
[21:07] <cow1> !Beer Billiard
[21:08] <balzac> Younder: sounds like a nice project
[21:08] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: well, not really, you _can_ force the "dirty-bit" to be unchecked, but thats risky in theory
[21:08] <sterlin> OFFTOPIC: Hey guys, I know I am breaking rules 1 and 2, but I've never watched "Fight Club". Would you recommend I watch? Do you think it's very good, meh or bad? Thanks.
[21:08] <Billiard> !ot > sterlin
[21:08] <Flannel> sterlin: #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[21:08] <balzac> Younder: maybe you know the answer to this question
[21:09] <balzac> sqlite + lighthttpd + php + myadmin + drupal = easy?
[21:09] <Younder> balzac, It solves a differnt problem. Onion networking. You can look it up.
[21:09] <rhkfin> Anyone know how to workaround usb-creator format problem - it won't format -> wont's let me create the bootable usb..
[21:09] <leaf-sheep> balzac: Sure! Anything is easy if you put your mind to it!
[21:09] <balzac> Younder: i'll check it out right now
[21:09] <IrssiNoMerci>  saji: and as you say you suffered a power drop then that really needs a quick run over - will only take a few minutes. That way you can complain to M$ if u need tech support ;) NTFS had to be reversed you see, I dont think anyone got any help from M$
[21:09] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, I'm using nautilus-dropbox but I couldn't find any support channels for it, so I came here. Nautilus-dropbox is syncing it's own cache folder in ~/.dropbox, and since the files are always changing there, the syncing never stops. Does anyone know how to exclude folders from being synced in nautilus-dropbox (nautilus front-end for Dropbox)?
[21:09] <balzac> yeah, so i've noticed, leaf-sheep
[21:10] <IrssiNoMerci> saji: although NTFS is way better than the FAT f/systems, it's not what I'd call "robust" compared to things like UFS, ZFS, ext3/4 etc
[21:11] <balzac> Younder: that's some good software
[21:11] <acicula> Q is there a way to enact firewall rules based on an interface going up?( think drop all on ppp0 or tap0 interfaces and such)
[21:11] <jauntyjoe0> UncleD ...
[21:12] <saji> IrssiNoMerci, main plus of NTFS to FAt is the security aspect....
[21:12] <Silent_Echo> Younder, did you give an eta on when oovoo will b out for linux?
[21:12] <Younder> balzac, It is :)
[21:12] <guntbert> !ot | Younder
[21:12] <balzac> Younder: do you know of any software with a very minimal license?
[21:12] <carpunky_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/318154/
[21:13] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: as a longshot - press CTRL-H in nautilus and make sure u havent got the .dropbox one nested inside the ~/dropbox one somehow?
[21:13] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: I'm checkoing mine now 1 min
[21:13] <kiwifunk> [AWAY] School
[21:13] <saji> !ot | balzac
[21:14] <fasutus> can someone answer a couple questions for me?
[21:14] <MenZa> !ask | fasutus
[21:14] <balzac> :X
[21:14] <aef> hi, is there some way to execute a script everytime i come back from suspend?
[21:14] <KnifeySpooney> IrssiNoMerci: I know the .dropbox folder is in my Dropbox syncing directory (/home/dropbox/Dropbox) because I made a link for /home/jared (my ~) in /home/dropbox/Dropbox. I want my whole home directory to be backed up, except for a few select directories.
[21:14] <fasutus> is there any way i can make the facebook prism auto refresh so i can see notifications automatically?
[21:15] <Lycanow> hi
[21:15] <fasutus> hello
[21:15] <Lycanow> how can i delete a ubuntu partition in my hdd? i have 2
[21:16] <Lycanow> primaries
[21:16] <fasutus> is there any way i can make the facebook prism auto refresh so i can see notifications automatically?
[21:16] <guntbert> carpunky_: you'll have to tell your problem *in* the channel, not everyone is going to read another pastebin
[21:16] <Kosborn> fasutus: that's an issue with the browser useragent, facebook will have to update that, or you'll have to modify it manually
[21:16] <Younder> guntbert, hold your horses. I am not breaking any rules here.
[21:16] <carpunky_> This is my scenario
[21:16] <carpunky_> I boot from the live cd.....I install the wrappers to get my wireless pci card running...Everything works great.
[21:16] <carpunky_> I install to a fresh hard drive, no other os on it.  I have to install the wrappers again to get internet connection ( in order to install my driver )
[21:16] <carpunky_> I run the update, everything is great !  However , If I reboot , I lose all my wireless devices...mouse, keyboard, pci network card etc..totally freezes.
[21:16] <FloodBot2> carpunky_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:16] <carpunky_> I reinstall from the live cd, everything is fine again.
[21:16] <carpunky_> Now, I have narrowed it down, if i remove the wireless window driver, everything will boot up fine...but i have to install the wireless window driver again to get internet up....so i am guessing it is a conflict with my wireless window driver.
[21:16] <leaf-sheep> fasutus: Use extension?
[21:16] <acicula> doh :P
[21:16] <rhkfin> Anyone know a working app (on Karmic) to create a bootable USB from .iso? So far usb-creator and unetbootin fail..
[21:16] <fasutus> leaf: i'm fairly new. how would i go abotu that?
[21:17] <acicula> rhkfin: what kind of iso?
[21:17] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: Ok, on my recent- installd dropbox, I have the .dropbox folder in my /home/username  folder,   and the Dropbox folder proper, with the green tick on it, is at that same level, so, maybe the ~/.dropbox got accidentally moved inside the ~/dropbox?  thats all i can offer, sorry
[21:17] <leaf-sheep> fasutus: I looked up at prism. Looks like you could use this --> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6665
[21:17] <guntbert> Younder: no horses here - but a lot of non-support talk from you :-)
[21:17] <davidboy> Lycanow: Use gparted
[21:17] <carpunky_> sorry for that, new
[21:17] <Silent_Echo> rhkfin, how does it fail?
[21:17] <Lycanow> davidboy: it doesnt let me remove the partition
[21:17] <Lycanow> davidboy: do i have to do this from a livecd?
[21:18] <davidboy> Lycanow:  You can't do it from a livecd
[21:18] <rhkfin> acicula: karmic kubuntu 64-bit desktop
[21:18] <Lycanow> davidboy:
[21:18] <Lycanow> are you sure?
[21:18] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: (i do have a .dropbox >file< inside the ~/Dropbox folder, if that clarifies anything
[21:18] <Younder> guntbert, OK I'll try to stay more focused
[21:18] <blackxored> what's the best method to do a clean install of a x64 system upon a 32 bit former install, which uses lvm??
[21:18] <Kosborn> davidboy: you can't? Why wouldn't you be able to?
[21:18] <acicula> heu unetbootin should be able to do that for you, did you try letting it download its own iso?
[21:18] <rhkfin> Silent_Echo: usb-creator: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/469569 and unetbootin.. it just won't start, stops at loading 'unetbootin kernel' or something
[21:18] <davidboy> Lycanow: Yes.  Live cds are only for testing
[21:18] <guntbert> Younder: :)
[21:19] <Kosborn> Only for testing?
[21:19] <KnifeySpooney> IrssiNoMerci: See my last message, I changed my syncing directory to /home/dropbox and I made a softlink for /home/username inside /home/dropbox so I can sync my whole directory. I just don't want to sync a few directories in my /home/username folder
[21:19] <acicula> oh its broken? figures :P
[21:19] <csaba> is there some utility to quickly copy 500 gb from one disk to another?
[21:19] <guntbert> davidboy: that is not true
[21:19] <rhkfin> acicula: please use my nick to highlight, too much other traffic :)
[21:19] <Lycanow> davidboy: by the way my whole hdd is formated as ext4. i made some space to install winXP, do i have to do a slow format or is a quick format enough? (cause it changes to ntfs)
[21:19] <rhkfin> acicula: yes, unetbootin SHOULD be able to do it..
[21:19] <Younder> csaba, cp?
[21:19] <csaba> other than cp :)
[21:19] <IrssiNoMerci> IrssiNoMerci: ok understand now - yep: nighmare recursion - good luck ;)
[21:19] <acicula> rhkfin: its really quiet here tbh :D, after you set quit/join to ignore anyway
[21:19] <leaf-sheep> csaba: There are no "quick" way to copy. Most of the things get the job done.
[21:19] <davidboy> guntbert: Can you tell me what a live cd is for then?
[21:19] <blackxored> I think that just scrolled to fast, so I repeat: what's the best method to do a clean install of a x64 system upon a 32 bit former install, which uses lvm??
[21:20] <ShdwShinobi> Hello, I just did a fresh install of 9.10 from 9.04 and now I can't get the line-in to play through my speakers. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:20] <IrssiNoMerci> oops - lol
[21:20] <csaba> oh well, spent 3 hours to format the disk...
[21:20] <leaf-sheep> csaba: What is wrong with cp? ;3
[21:20] <IrssiNoMerci> <tired
[21:20] <rhkfin> acicula: hmm.. agreed :)
[21:20] <Younder> csaba, you pretty much have to go though the operating system anyhow.
[21:20] <acicula> rhkfin: dunno how to troubleshoot that problem really, guess something got broken, maybe revert to an older unetbootin version?
[21:20] <sidewalk> what textbased torrent client do you guys recommend?
[21:20] <ShdwShinobi> sidewalk, rtorrent
[21:21] <subichan> excuse me how can I search for a certain directory in my system?
[21:21] <leaf-sheep> rhkfin: You got excellent internet speed?
[21:21] <acicula> locate find ls grep subichan
 Lycanow: quick is enough, difference is only if file data is erased entirely or not I believe
[21:21] <rhkfin> acicula: don't know, I've tried various unetbootin versions along months and never succeeded to boot from an USB created by it.. usb-creator was ok but now in Karmic no success.. md5 has been checked
[21:21] <sidewalk> ShdwShinobi: does it handle crypto?
[21:21] <Lycanow> true?
[21:21] <csaba> subichan: find | grep dirname
[21:21] <acicula> boot.kernel.org maybe an option rhkfin , but dunno what they provide to make a bootdisk
[21:21] <guntbert> Lycanow: if you want to edit the partitions they must not be mounted - so you have to do it from a live CD session - in spite of what david did say
[21:21] <subichan> locate?
[21:21] <rhkfin> leaf-sheep: image takes around 15 minutest to download
[21:21] <carpunky_> I have to install windows wireless drivers to load up my pci wireless card, to get internet connection, then once i get it, i have to remove it or my system crashes...any ideas ?
[21:21] <subichan> ok thank you
[21:21] <rhkfin> acicula: ah, interesting idea :)
[21:21] <blackxored> what's the best method to do a clean install of a x64 system upon a 32 bit former install, which uses lvm??
[21:22] <ShdwShinobi> sidewalk, not sure
[21:22] <KnifeySpooney> IrssiNoMerci: Ok :D but my main question is, do you know how to exclude a few directories from being synced?
[21:22] <leaf-sheep> rhkfin: I suppose you could zcat boot.img.gz to USB stick then plug it in.  Install packages over the net.
[21:22] <acicula> rhkfin: weird that its broken at all, definitly file a BR about it
[21:22] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: nope sorry, just checked manpage etc , nuthing there - grrr
[21:22] <Lycanow> guntbert: look i have only 1 hdd. i installed 2 ubuntu versions in different primary partitions. now i want to delete 1 of the 2. what do i have to do?
[21:22] <rhkfin> leaf-sheep: where do I find boot.img.gz?
[21:22] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: manpage just for the sync deamon it seems
 what do you call this punctuation
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[21:23] <BingO> Hii Rooom !!
[21:23] <acicula> leaf-sheep: rhkfin yeah manually dropping the network kernel image + initrd on a stick with grub should also work
[21:23] <puff> Does anybody know where pidgin keeps its preferences, etc?
[21:23] <Kosborn> Lycanow: if one of the partitions is not mounted, you can remove that with gparted
[21:23] <KnifeySpooney> IrssiNoMerci: Yeah i was surprised when I couldn't find anything on Google for directory exclusion.. do you know if Ubuntu One supports this?
[21:23] <acicula> puff: .purple
[21:23] <csaba> I was watching this show how to catch pedophiles, any idea which irc server should I join to find these pedophiles?
[21:23] <blackxored> anyone could answer that, how can I reinstall and re-use a former lvm setup?
[21:23] <acicula> !ot | csaba
[21:23] <Kosborn> Lycanow: If you want to then resize your current partition, you'll have to boot into a live cd, and resize it that way
[21:23] <Lycanow> partitionmanager is ok?
[21:23] <blackxored> Lycanow, BTW use lvm next time :P
[21:23] <saji> nowimproved, Its a "single inverted comma" i guess... :)
[21:23] <leaf-sheep> rhkfin: amd64 / i386 ?
[21:23] <rhkfin> leaf-sheep: amd64
[21:23] <BingO> I want to create new ISO of ubuntu but with my own settings means when i will install it from my CD/ISO then it will install with my customize pacakges how can i do that ?
[21:23] <Lycanow> lvm?
[21:24] <nowimproved> saji, lol
[21:24] <puff> acicula: Thanks!
[21:24] <leaf-sheep> rhkfin: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/karmic/
[21:24] <Lycanow> blackxored: lvm?
[21:24] <acicula> BingO: well you can export your installed package list
[21:24] <gionnico> hello
[21:24] <Kosborn> Lycanow: yes, partitionmagic should work fine, too
[21:24] <rhkfin> leaf-sheep: ok, thanks
[21:24] <leaf-sheep> rhkfin: amd64 --> Download boot.img.gz
[21:24] <blackxored> Lycanow, yes, you get rid of partition resizing for life :P
[21:24] <acicula> BingO: if you made changes to config files you either have to put them in a separate package or modify installed files after installation
[21:24] <ShdwShinobi> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 from 9.04 and now I can't get the line-in to play through my speakers. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:24] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: no I'm waaaay to scared to go to 9.10 yet, I'm form a BSD background so i generally take 18month haha
[21:24] <gionnico> i have a directory structure like this: lesson1/,{audio,pictures}
[21:24] <rhkfin> leaf-sheep: acicula the reason for USB is - that the USB drive is broken on the laptop :/
[21:25] <acicula> ShdwShinobi: the usual suspects, muted, volume on all the mixers up, etc ?
[21:25] <rhkfin> leaf-sheep: acicula I mean the CD drive .)
[21:25] <Mattz> Ok, using the boot option xforcevesa gives me access to the desktop no bother
[21:25] <gionnico> is there an easy fast automated video editor that matches files timestamps to make a video?
[21:25] <acicula> rhkfin: ah yeah sucks,
[21:25] <ShdwShinobi> acicula, yep. they're all full. I can see the line in working. It just won't output to speakers
[21:25] <Mattz> see what happens now that i'm installing it
[21:25] <blackxored> what's the best method to do a clean install of a x64 system upon a 32 bit former install, which uses lvm??
[21:25] <gionnico> so audio long track (1h about) + pictures (say 10-15 pictures)
[21:25] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: aha!!! google "dropbox with rsync"
[21:25] <gionnico> to make a video with audio+some picture?
[21:25] <BingO> acicula: i want to make my modified ISO which will install with that packages and settings meant set auto DHCP + install few mine select packages + grub thats it.
[21:25] <puff> Anyone know how to set up voice chat?
[21:26] <BingO> acicula: what is kickstart configuration is it same thing ?
[21:26] <acicula> rhkfin: if you have a working linux install just dropping in the vmlinuz/initrd into (a separate!) /boot and adding it to grub should give you the same effect
[21:26] <IrssiNoMerci> KnifeySpooney: it uses the normal rsync --exclude stuff to pre-prep it it seems
[21:26] <Sweetshark> arand: thanks, but I am on _x_ubuntu ...
[21:26] <carpunky_> I have to install windows wireless drivers to load up my pci wireless card, to get internet connection, then once i get it, i have to remove it or my system crashes...any ideas ? see full details http://paste.ubuntu.com/318154/
[21:26] <acicula> BingO: dunno never tried, but i'd suspect ubuntu has a default way of doing what you are trying to achieve yes
[21:26] <Younder> Blackxored: well the best method is a reformat
[21:26] <Younder> Blackxored: It is a bit harsh but it will work
[21:26] <KnifeySpooney> IrssiNoMerci: Ah ok, I'll try out Ubuntu One. Thanks!
[21:26] <Silent_Echo> BingO, when you figgure that out mind hitting me up with the solution?
[21:27] <hackspider> hi i installed crossover linux 8 and office 2007. when i try to start word or any other application from kickoff it doesn't start, but when i start it from a terminal by ./winword in cxoffice/bin directory it fires up without any problem
[21:27] <acicula> BingO: just googled, looks like it, modifying system installed configuration files may be tricky
[21:27] <blackxored> Younder, I have lvm chroots and snapshots, which I don't want to lose, I want to give it a try to the alternate amd64 to see if I can manage to lost as little as possible
[21:27] <Younder> Blackxored: but clearly 32 bit code on a 64 bit os is noo good
[21:27] <Mattz> hmm,  methinks the family have gone and put their downloads inside my documents. shouldn't have told it to import that >_<
[21:27] <acicula> BingO: as in dunno if kickstart can do that too, but it definitly looks like the place to start
[21:27] <arand> Sweetshark: ah, no experience with kde on my behalf I'm afraid.
[21:28] <IrssiNoMerci> <off for food/sleep nn all
[21:28] <blackxored> Younder, I want the installer to format only /usr, /var and / lvms and install over there, is it possible?
[21:28] <Silent_Echo> \list
[21:28] <Younder> Blackxored: from atransition from 32 bit to 64 bit you WILL loose some data
[21:28] <blackxored> Younder, how's that?
[21:28] <det> Is there a package like "ubuntu-desktop" but for the server? Something that will pull in all packages that a default server install will pull in ?
[21:28] <Younder> Blackxored: the pure text bit's are fine.
[21:28] <IrssiNoMerci> pftop
[21:28] <IrssiNoMerci> oops
[21:29] <frostburn> Younder, not really, just backup /home and if you have other stuff /var /opt if necessary
[21:29] <blackxored> Younder, lost, enlighten me :P
[21:29] <blackxored> frostburn, I want to backup lvms
[21:29] <acicula> yeah 32/64 bit has very little todo with how stuff is stored on disk
[21:29] <leaf-sheep> det: Server? The IT administration would install essential packages to maintain a clean system -- low cpu, etc. There are many different uses for servers.
[21:29] <TallJason> Ubuntu Server 9.10: How do I set up "shared physical device"?   tried the wiki on networking for virtualization and its not working
[21:29] <frostburn> blackxored, i'd use dd and do a block level copy
[21:30] <Metaphis> hi guys
[21:30] <guntbert> TallJason: there is #ubuntu-server too
[21:30] <TallJason> thx
[21:30] <acicula> TallJason: for what virtualization app?
[21:30] <acicula> xen?
[21:30] <blackxored> frostburn, I want to reinstall my system which is 32 bits to 64 bits to be able to work for both archs as a DD, so I can build from x86 and x86_64, but I want to keep /home, the lvm chroots, and all that stuff I've setup
[21:30] <TallJason> acicula: KVM
[21:30] <puff> I have an odd situation;  I set up an ubuntu box for a friend's company.  They need it to be very stable, they're using it to run some very intensive simulation calculations.  But they also need gnome, etc.
[21:31] <Metaphis> i'm on Ubuntu 9.04 and i want to try kvm but "modprobe kvm-intel" doesn't work and "egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo" return something but there is no kvm in this list
[21:31] <Metaphis> does it mean I can't use kvm?
[21:31] <acicula> TallJason: dunno about that, but there is a kvm support channel on freenode for sure ;)
[21:31] <puff> They just called me;  the head programmer clicked up the "update" icon and now they can no longer get in via outside gnome.
[21:31] <rhkfin> acicula: so I donwload http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz and untar it to usb and that's it?
[21:31] <TallJason> acicula, I dont think it is a KVM issue, it appears to be a networking issue with Bridged setup
[21:31] <frostburn> blackxored, it's possible, good luck with that, make sure you have backups
[21:31] <acicula> blackxored: i've never had problems with copying my /home between 32 and 64bit
[21:31] <ShdwShinobi> acicula, would you have any idea how to loop the sound from input to output? I was able to use sound recorder to grab the sound. So it's just not getting output to the speakers
[21:32] <puff> So, I guess what I'm asking is, should I have them on some special versionn of ubuntu (LTS?) so that they get important updates, but otherwise things stay stable?
[21:32] <acicula> ShdwShinobi: dont understand the question
[21:32] <rhkfin> acicula: it doesn't like the symlinks.. (pxelinux etc)
[21:32] <cappiz> Hi, is is possible to setup an authenticating gateway? like OpenBSd has authpf?
[21:32] <TallJason> Metaphis: if anything is returned you can do virtualization VMX is 32 bit and SVM is 64 bit
[21:32] <blackxored> frostburn, acicula, I'm mostly concerned about the chroots, it's possible to make the installer to load my installed lvm configuration and then set it to format /usr /var and / only?
[21:32] <acicula> rhkfin: i think that will just contain the kernel image and initrd, thats what you need but you will still need to setup the stuff to get it to boot
[21:33] <Mattz> puff: Seems like a sound plan to me. We've got a server thats running the Hardy LTS and hasnt been rebooted for two years except for when one of the HDDs blew up
[21:33] <Kosborn> aricula: he wants input sound directly piped to output (speakers)
[21:33] <frostburn> blackxored, hmmmmm i think so, i'd have to test, i really don't use lvm
[21:33] <acicula> blackxored: i dont really understand what you are trying to do there and have not used lvm much, so dunno :/
[21:33] <Metaphis> Tabmow, well? but why can't i activate the kvm-intel module? "FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported"
[21:33] <_marix> is there an easy way to delay mounting of some devices during bootup?
[21:33] <Billiard> _marix: delay until when?
[21:33] <blackxored> frostburn, acicula, nevermind, guys take a look at lvm, thanks
[21:33] <acicula> the (alternative?) installer understands lvm , but other then
[21:34] <_marix> Billiard: delay just about 20-30 seconds
[21:34] <blackxored> acicula, yes the alternate iso
[21:34] <blackxored> acicula, but I want it to keep my lvm as it is
[21:34] <Billiard> _marix: you could put the noauto option in fstab and run a script that waits 30 seconds then mounts them maybe
[21:34] <Younder> Blackxored: the allignment of data is different in 64 bit
[21:35] <blackxored> Younder, so I won't be able to keep my lvm structure
[21:35] <acicula> Younder: on a filesystem?
[21:35] <blackxored> ??
[21:35] <Lycanow> i have 2 ubuntu partitions and i use a livecd to delete the 1st of the 2. both are primaries, but only the first has the boot flag on it. what should i do?
[21:35] <puff> Mattz: Does LTS have full gnome desktop support, etc?
[21:35] <frostburn> filesystems are architecture agnostic
[21:35] <Flannel> puff: yes
[21:35] <draconis> Younder, Blackxored: Yeah, but MOST programs that do direct memory to disk conversions store in "network-endian"
[21:35] <Billiard> Lycanow: what do you want in the end?
[21:35] <Younder> Blackxored: never tried, but I would think so
[21:35] <draconis> which is big endian always
[21:36] <ShdwShinobi> acicula, the line-in isn't being outputted through the speakers like it did in 9.04
[21:36] <xig> what can i do if i want my parallel port beingt "polled" instead of "interrupt driven" (as shown in dmesg's output "lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).")
[21:36] <blackxored> draconis, Younder, acicula I will test and tell you about my results on monday, there seems no other solution :P
[21:36] <Lycanow> Billiard: i want my 2nd primary partition. but it hasnt the boot flag on it. will it work?
[21:37] <draconis> you can set the bootable flag
[21:37] <sllide> how do i let my joystick be recognized
[21:37] <MoTec> how do I run a gui app as root?
[21:37] <sllide> it isnt on default :(
[21:37] <carpunky_> I have to install windows wireless drivers to load up my pci wireless card, to get internet connection, then once i get it, i have to remove it or my system crashes...any ideas ? see full details http://paste.ubuntu.com/318154/
[21:37] <frostburn> MoTec, gksudo
[21:37] <Lycanow> i just choose to enable the boot flag? and thats it?
[21:37] <MoTec> frostburn: thanks
[21:37] <Lycanow> or do i have to change anything more
[21:37] <Billiard> Lycanow: you may have to reconfigure grub
[21:38] <Lycanow> Billiard: by the way i will install xp in a new partition now. so grub will be lost
[21:38] <sam__> I am creating a preseed file for computers we sell at very low cost. I am looking to make these machines as compatible as possible with as many filesystems, devices, phones, media players as possible. Here is my current package list http://wirelessimage.pbworks.com/FrontPage  can you suggest any more?
[21:38] <Billiard> Lycanow: after installing xp, you will have to reinstall the grub bootloader to boot linux then
[21:39] <Lycanow> then what?
[21:39] <Lycanow> what should i do about the boot flag
[21:39] <beeftube> Hi, where does gnome keep all the desktop wallpapers that cycle?
[21:39] <Billiard> Lycanow: why do you wan the boot flag?
[21:39] <Mattz> Ok, new problem. No wireless networks show up under Wireless Networks when I try to connect
[21:39] <carpunky_> I have to install windows wireless drivers to load up my pci wireless card, to get internet connection, then once i get it, i have to remove it or my system crashes...any ideas ? see full details http://paste.ubuntu.com/318154/
[21:39] <Mattz> Any thoughts as to why?
[21:39] <Lycanow> Billiard: i dont know. do i need it?
[21:40] <beeftube> Mattz try rsetting your router
[21:40] <acicula> sam__: why not just use the metapackage ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:40] <Mattz> Router's fine
[21:40] <draconis> is there an updated Fluxbuntu yet?
[21:40] <Mattz> I'm using it to chat right now
[21:40] <draconis> it hasn't been changed in ages
[21:40] <beeftube> 0o
[21:40] <carpunky_> Mattz, posted this for you, is this what yours i doing ?
[21:40] <acicula> though dunno about legal issues when you sell it with that stuff?
[21:40] <Billiard> Lycanow: windows is going to mess with all that probably anyway
[21:41] <sam__> acicula, got that, i also have extras. I am looking for additional packages
[21:41] <Lycanow> Billiard: ok so
[21:41] <Lycanow> Billiard: how do i set the boot flag?
[21:41] <acicula> sam__: oh yeah i see, didnt look right the first time :)
[21:41] <Lycanow> jut just this from partitionamanger?
[21:41] <Lycanow> Billiard:
[21:41] <Azverkan> Has anyone tried running Karmic without mountall yet?
[21:41] <Mattz> carpunky: No, not that bad. I
[21:41] <sam__> acicula, not too bothered about the law..
[21:41] <carpunky_> Mattz, I had to D/l the Ndiswrappers on a usb and install the driver manually then, and then i could get to the windowless driver
[21:42] <Younder> Ok on boot grub want's to take the lead and it WILL let you boot to windows
[21:42] <acicula> sam__: if you are selling stuff you probably should be, but we (ot)
[21:42] <cappiz> Hi, is is possible to setup an authenticating gateway? like OpenBSd has authpf?
[21:42] <Billiard> Lycanow: idk probably in gparted
[21:42] <Mattz> carpunky, okey dokey, i'll try that.
[21:42] <draconis> carpunky, if it's PCI, get an ipw card
[21:42] <Billiard> Lycanow: i dont think you need the boot flag set
[21:42] <Younder> If you wan't it the other way that requires some work, but that is doable too
[21:42] <Lycanow> Billiard: ok, do you know how to i fix grub afterwards
[21:42] <Lycanow> ?
[21:42] <Lycanow> after xp
[21:42] <Billiard> Lycanow: yea, using a livecd and chroot
[21:42] <acicula> !dualboot
[21:42] <sam__> I am selling PC's for £30 to low income people in the inner city, not exactly big business
[21:43] <draconis> carpunky, I assume that's one of broadcom's drivers
[21:43] <acicula> look there
[21:43] <carpunky_> draconis, no
[21:43] <lovre> does anyone have any expireance in getting hardware accelleration to work in virtualbox (windows)?
[21:43] <Lycanow> Billiard: i have livecd
[21:43] <draconis> carpunky, what is it then?
[21:43] <Lycanow> Billiard: what else do i need?
[21:43] <cow1> how do you list files but omit directories.. in the current directory? (No-recursion)
[21:43] <Lycanow> chroot?
[21:43] <Lycanow> Billiard: what is chroot
[21:43] <sllide> how do i use joysticks?
[21:43] <carpunky_> draconis, Marvel
[21:44] <acicula> lovre: hardware acc as in vt or 3d?
[21:44] <draconis> carpunky, marvells are really flakey
[21:44] <rhkfin> acicula: don't ask, but usb-creator started to accept my usb.. rebooted (another don't ask :) - and MOUNTED the usb - and then started usb-creator....
[21:44] <ptichka> !de
[21:44] <acicula> rhkfin: so it's working?
[21:45] <rhkfin> acicula: looks like it..
[21:45] <acicula> rhkfin: awesome, i'll stop asking then :)
[21:45] <rhkfin> at least it's creating the bootable usb now..
[21:45] <Billiard> Lycanow: you might not even have to use chroot, but i always do, it will allow you to work inside your partition after mounting it in the live cd
[21:45] <rhkfin> :)
[21:45] <lovre> acicula: excuse me? Im trying to enable directX by using Wine's OpenGL wrapper or something like that... So i can use Aero and other fancy stuff
[21:45] <carpunky_> draconis, Should i just by a whole new router and card....cuase it is like 5 yrs old
[21:45] <draconis> carpunky, there are some crude Linux drivers and firmware here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208088&highlight=88w8335
[21:45] <Lycanow> Billiard: anyway is there any guide to fix grub after all this
[21:45] <Lycanow> ?
[21:45] <acicula> lovre: well i did install that stuff, but havent tried it out yet
[21:45] <arand> lovre: 3D? tried and failed for me.
[21:46] <draconis> carpunky, but yeah, if it's that old.. make sure you get one that's properly supported
[21:46] <Younder> warum spechens zie deuche ubutto
[21:46] <acicula> i'm on an intel GM45 chipset, which is crap for anything remotely related to 3D still so
[21:46] <TallJason>  Ubuntu Server 9.1: How do I set up "shared physical device" so my virtual machines can connect to same subnet as Host?   The default is for NAT, which I don't want.
[21:46] <Billiard> Lycanow: yeah just google fix grub using live cd idk
[21:46] <Lycanow> btw
[21:47] <Lycanow> i moved my 2nd primary partition
[21:47] <Lycanow> to the start
[21:47] <Younder> works!
[21:47] <carpunky_> draconis, And how do I know...Im new to all this, i have learned so much in 16 hours.....
[21:47] <Lycanow> does this do anything?
[21:47] <Billiard> Lycanow: i would use chroot then
[21:47] <Jester05> hey guys, is anyone having problems with ubuntuone?
[21:47] <lovre> arand: did you install the program called WineD3D?
[21:47] <acicula> lovre: yeh
[21:47] <lovre> acicula: how did you install it? I cant get admin privileges any way
[21:47] <Younder> Jester05, works for me
[21:47] <Jester05> the ubuntuone client seems to be eating my ram, using all of it in cache
[21:48] <Younder> Jester05, That is natural
[21:48] <puff> Anybody here have a functioning gtalk voice chat set up?  I'd like to try and get mine working and test it with somebody who has a known working setup.
[21:48] <acicula> lovre, drop to safe mode and install
[21:48] <rocky|raccoon> Jester05: Then it's not eating it, RAM in cache is available for anything to use at any time
[21:48] <Jester05> Younder, I've killed a bunch of apps and turned all but ubuntuone back on slowly and it seems to have been the one eating ram
[21:48] <L2B> How can I create a new menu in any panel in the ubuntu?
[21:48] <Younder> Jester05, That should not be a problem
[21:49] <Jester05> prior to the last update of it it didnt take ALL of my ram
[21:49] <Jester05> and it makes my pc uterly unusable
[21:49] <acicula> L2B: right click on the panel and add the widgit/thingamathingie ?
[21:49] <draconis> carpunky, you probably want a wireless card with "Atheros" chipset or "Intel Pro Wireless"
[21:49] <Younder> Jester05, oops
[21:49] <ianyikos> I have a question about internet security.
[21:49] <sam__> L2B, right click on panel > add to panel > select a menu
[21:49] <arand> lovre: ah, no, I'm running ubuntu as guest as well
[21:49] <Younder> Jester05, That should obviously not happen
[21:49] <Jester05> yeah i know
[21:50] <Younder> Jester05, Gimme some specs
[21:50] <acicula> !ask | ianyikos
[21:50] <Jester05> i have 4 gigs of ram and 4 gigs of swap and i know its taken at least all avail ram, i believe swap as well
[21:50] <Jester05> specs on my machine?
[21:50] <carpunky_> draconis, Ok, Ty...one last thing, would that be pci or usb ..or what ?
[21:50] <sam__> L2B, personally i like the gnome-main-menu (sudo apt-get install gnome-main-menu) Then do the above
[21:50] <pitipiti> Hi, anyone know a way to write a pre-commit hook for svn to reject any symlink commit?
[21:50] <acicula> free -m and top should be able to tell you if a prog is hugging stuff
[21:50] <ianyikos> What can I do to protect my computer in ubuntu?  I saw something about a firewall on the help website, but I can't find it on my computer.
[21:50] <Younder> Jester05, RAM
[21:51] <acicula> ianyikos: by default it is not needed
[21:51] <Jester05> Younder, I have the intel w9400.. quad core 2.66, 4 gigs ddr3, 4 gigs hdd swap space
[21:51] <Jester05> q9400*
[21:51] <Younder> Jester05, powerfull
[21:51] <draconis> carpunky, it actually looks like the choices for PCI are scant
[21:51] <acicula> ianyikos: unlessy you start running services like ssh/ftp/smtp/http and are directly connected to the internet?
[21:51] <Younder> Jester05, that might be the problem
[21:51] <lovre> acicula: i have, but i still have 'access denied' !
[21:51] <L2B> sam_,acicula: I want to create a new menu not the "Places","Applications","System"
[21:51] <lovre> acicula: from safe mode also
[21:52] <LondonFog> Hi, I just bought an MSI Wind-U123, I'm attempting to install the Ubuntu Netbook Remix through the use of a USB flash drive. When I set up the BIOS to boot from the flash drive it loads the menu and after I choose "Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix" it displays the glowing ubuntu insignia, then the screen goes blank and my dongle seems to stop working. Any ideas what's going on?
[21:52] <ianyikos> So viruses aren't as common on linux as windows?
[21:52] <carpunky_> draconis, do you have a newegg link for a good one ?
[21:52] <Jester05> Younder, i know.. I shouldnt be having any issues with software tying up this machine..
[21:52] <r3dwa11> wy in the heck you need 4g swap ?? useless
[21:52] <lovre> ianyikos: no viruses on linux, dont worry
[21:52] <acicula> lovre: in windows?
[21:52] <Jester05> Younder, prior to updating to the newest release of ubuntuone I was fine..
[21:52] <mrXX> guys, i need simple help with setting up virtual hosts,   this is my file in the sites enabled --><VirtualHost *:80>
[21:52] <mrXX> DocumentRoot /home/nabin/mysites/site1
[21:52] <mrXX> ServerName sheriffchaplaincy
[21:52] <mrXX> <Directory /home/nabin/mysites/site1>
[21:52] <mrXX> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[21:52] <FloodBot1> mrXX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.

[21:52] <acicula> L2B: a new menu item?
[21:52] <lovre> acicula: what do you mean? I run virtualbox and start windows in safe mode. yes
[21:53] <Younder> Jester05, might I suggest temporarly disabeling this software and see if it goes away?
[21:53] <acicula> ianyikos: no virusses really
[21:53] <acicula> lovre: do you get access denied inside the windows host
[21:53] <Jester05> Younder, I may just have to delete and reinstall it.. or just not use it all together.. I also have dropbox and have gotten myself up to 4 gigs on their server so..
[21:53] <L2B> sam_,acicula: I want to create my own menu  which I will make it contain some boxes ?
[21:53] <mrXX> guys i need help with virtual hosting, what should be the contents of my file in the sites enabled ??
[21:53] <L2B> sam_,acicula: I want to create my own menu  which I will make it contain some books*?
[21:53] <Younder> Jester05, I wan't to elliminate misdiagnostics.
[21:53] <mrXX> <VirtualHost *:80>DocumentRoot /home/nabin/mysites/site1
[21:53] <mrXX> ServerName sheriffchaplaincy
[21:53] <mrXX> <Directory /home/nabin/mysites/site1>
[21:53] <mrXX> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks</Directory></VirtualHost>
[21:53] <lovre> acicula: im not sure what you mean, but i think yes, access denied if from within the windows os.
[21:53] <FloodBot1> mrXX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <ianyikos> but people still like to hack into computers i guess.   lol.
[21:54] <Lint> is the menu editor broken? i'm trying to view items' properties but nothing happens
[21:54] <Jester05> Younder, I have.. its currently not running and my ram situation is fine.. I know its this software I just dont know why.. maybe a bad upgrade? May just need to reinstall software?
[21:54] <acicula> lovre: dunno then, you should have the proper rights in safe mode
[21:54] <mrXX> can anyone help me setting up virtual host in apache?
[21:54] <Younder> Jester05, Do you need it?
[21:54] <mrXX> i can paste my file here, so can anyone pm me plz
[21:54] <koshari> mrXX use pastebin
[21:54] <r3dwa11> hahaha without hackers there would no software even exits
[21:54] <acicula> airtonix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security, as long as you dont install internet services without doing something about security you'll be ok
[21:54] <mrXX> koshari how?
[21:55] <koshari> !pastebin
[21:55] <Younder> Jester05, If not wait for a update. At least that would be my recomendation.
[21:55] <mrXX> !<VirtualHost *:80>
[21:55] <mrXX> DocumentRoot /home/nabin/mysites/site1
[21:55] <mrXX> ServerName sheriffchaplaincy
[21:55] <mrXX> <Directory /home/nabin/mysites/site1>
[21:55] <mrXX> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[21:55] <FloodBot1> mrXX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.

[21:55] <Jester05> Younder, I think it'd have to be this software.. I disabled it and everything is fine.. I would prefer to have it as its a means to sync all of my linux running machines together however if its going to cause ram issues I'll get rid of it.  I was more wanting to see if anyone else was experiencing the same issue
[21:55] <L2B> sam_,acicula: I want to create my own menu  which I will make it contain some books , how can I create it ,please ?
[21:55] <Locum> lol
[21:55] <lovre> acicula: what OS do you run in vbox, windows 7?
[21:55] <draconis> carpunky, its really hard to even find what chipset those things contain, newegg's descriptions suck
[21:56] <acicula> L2B: right click applications , edit and add
[21:56] <acicula> lovre: not yet :(, just windows XP atm
[21:56] <Lint> is the menu editor broken? i'm trying to view items' properties but nothing happens
[21:56] <carpunky_> draconis, Lol..i  hear ya
[21:56] <lovre> acicula: that may be the reason why...
[21:56] <Younder> Jester05, Always hated it myself, get rid of it!
[21:56] <acicula> lovre: it very well may be :)
[21:56] <LondonFog> Hi, I just bought an MSI Wind-U123, I'm attempting to install the Ubuntu Netbook Remix through the use of a USB flash drive. When I set up the BIOS to boot from the flash drive it loads the menu and after I choose "Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix" it displays the glowing ubuntu insignia, then the screen goes blank and my dongle seems to stop working. I selected the option to check disc for defects and it said it should all be working properly
[21:57] <halt> hello mates, i just did a fresh install of 9.10 and i have the folder .gvfs in my home directory with the permission "d?????????" any idea what this means?
[21:57] <L2B> acicula: I want to make a menu which will have the name L2B and I want to open it directly from the panel
[21:57] <Jester05> Younder, yeah, in all honesty I already have the same functionality from Dropbox lol .. but I use dropbox for school stuff and ubuntuone for pc stuff
[21:57] <fasutus> i installed desklets and when i try to add them to my desktopm it just shows a colored sqare. like the graphics aren't coming through. why do you think?
[21:57] <L2B> acicula: I don't want to open applications then open L2B menu
[21:58] <e-head> Hey ubuntu people!
[21:58] <e-head> There are a ridiculous number of people in this channel.
[21:58] <r3dwa11> hi  e-head
[21:58] <Jester05> Younder, tho I do have a samba network share I can put anything I need to keep within the house on .. could just use dropbox for PC stuff when the laptop is involved
[21:58] <e-head> What is the state of read/write NTFS support in the *nix world?
[21:58] <dayo> LondonFog: run it again, and when the screen blanks, press Alt+Right or Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see if there are any error messages displayed.
[21:58] <L2B> acicula : I mean that I need to create a panel having the name L2B and it can be opened directly from the panel not from another menu
[21:58] <acicula> L2B: oh like so, its possible but wouldnt know where to tweak that, sorry
[21:58] <Lint> is rgere some working menu editor?
[21:59] <mrXX> newbie here, how is pastebin used?
[21:59] <Jester05> **BTW** everyone here should look into dropbox if you're running multiple machines, getdropbox.com
[21:59] <draconis> carpunky, this has a realtek chip: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833340009&cm_re=wireless_pci-_-33-340-009-_-Product
[21:59] <draconis> carpunky, rtl8185, which seems to be well supported
[21:59] <oCean_> mrXX go to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:59] <Jester05> draconis, that doesnt support n does it?
[21:59] <fasutus> i installed desklets and when i try to add them to my desktopm it just shows a colored sqare. like the graphics aren't coming through. why do you think?
[21:59] <sllide> how do i make my joystick useable?
[22:00] <draconis> Jester05, I doubt it. otherwise he'd have to buy a new router to use the n
[22:00] <Jester05> draconis, why in this day and age, wouldnt you want to future proof your hardware and get draft-n?
[22:01] <draconis> Jester05, do you know any that support wireless n and have reasonably good drivers? I can't find any AGBN intel PCI cards
[22:01] <Jester05> draconis, draft-n is already standard on 99% of routers so as soon as he replaces his existing he'll have the ability to use draftn
[22:01] <fax> hi does anyone have some idea about wireless on karmic? I had it all working but recently it just decided not to and I can't coax it back into operating properly :(
[22:01] <acicula> i have an agn intel 5300, works ok, though N support is still crappy
[22:01] <fasutus> anyone have an idea why my desklets don't show up when i add them, just a blank sqare?
[22:01] <Jester05> draconis, I can look into it, i know the intel chipset for draft n is supported under linux
[22:01] <dayo> fax: i read somewhere, downgrading the kernel helps.
[22:01] <Lint> Is there some Applications menu-editing tool??
[22:02] <carpunky_> draconis, Ty so much and will get that, but I still want to solve this....im just that kinda person.....what about this driver update http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverSearchResults.do
[22:02] <fax> that sounds really difficult :S
[22:02] <acicula> Jester05: well supported yes, but working no :(
[22:02] <acicula> well not the last time i tried anyway which was a good 2 months ago
[22:02] <draconis> carpunky, face it to make that work... you are going to have to learn kernel programming
[22:02] <Jester05> acicula, I have integrated wireless in my laptop and it works fine..
[22:02] <dayo> fax: not really, i think u just have to install the previous kernel then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:02] <acicula> Jester05: it works with your access point you mean ;)
[22:02] <fax> dayo do you neet internet to do that?
[22:02] <draconis> Jester05, yes but can you get one of those intel chips for PCI
[22:03] <draconis> or would you have to build your own PCI card?
[22:03] <dayo> fax: u would probably need internet to at least download the kernel
[22:03] <Jester05> draconis, more than likely you'll have to go USB, pci is somewhat.. old tech
[22:03] <Younder> seriosly ubuntu cloud has put caninical software in a precarious situasion. The are now offerin propriatary servises for open sftware and i don't like it.
[22:03] <carpunky_> draconis, Ok. Well, i have come far, i guess that I better bow out...i appreciate all your help, i have been setting here for 6 hours and you are the 1st person who attempted to help me
[22:03] <scripted> how do i remove a device in ubuntu 9.10 my creative x-fi sound card has stopped wrking and i cant re install the driver
[22:03] <acicula> there is a list of well supported chipsets/cards on the ubuntu wireless page is there not?
[22:04] <LondonFog> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my brand new MSI Wind U-123 through the use of a USB flash drive. When I select the "Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix" option after booting from the flash drive the following error message is displayed. "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow" can anyone help me out?
[22:04] <sllide> ugh
[22:04] <Younder> So my solution is to avoid the software. Not elegant or clean. But ethical.
[22:04] <sllide> my text is gone to fast for people to notice lol
[22:05] <acicula> Younder: they are offering payed services based on open source software?
[22:05] <Younder> yes
[22:05] <acicula> Younder: look around, thats how every open source based buisness makes money
[22:05] <acicula> programmers cost money
[22:06] <Younder> acicula, No consultancy is fine, paying for databases is not
[22:06] <acicula> you are paying to get a database hosted
[22:06] <acicula> or whateevr service you want hosted
[22:06] <Rorty> hello, my firefox is still called shiretoku in karmic, how can I change it back?
[22:06] <Lint> Is there some Applications menu-editing tool??
[22:06] <acicula> if you want free have a look at google appservice i guess
[22:07] <acicula> dunno if they offer db services with that though
[22:07] <Rorty> Lint, yes under > system > preference > main menu
[22:07] <Younder> acicula, This is a support channel, I got slapped on the wrist for getting to chatty before. I will try to avoid the same mistake aging. If you have issues chose a private channel..
[22:07] <Lint> Rorty, it seems to be broken, I need a working one
[22:08] <Jester05> guys check out these cards:
[22:08] <Jester05> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166041
[22:08] <fax> do you have any other suggestions about getting the wireless to work?
[22:08] <Jester05> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833130057
[22:09] <r3dwa11> Jester05: ver nice cards
[22:10] <Jester05> r3dwa11, yeah not bad on the price either
[22:10] <draconis> would be nice if I could replace the broadcom card in this netbook
[22:10] <Jester05> i bet the zonet is/will be supported under linux if nothing else by the realtek drivers
[22:10] <xig> is there an up to date description on how to configure&compile a kernel on karmic? the wiki ressource specifies locations for files which have obviously moved, and so on
[22:10] <Jester05> draconis, you should be able to...
[22:10] <acicula> draconis: most wireless cards(even internal) ones are replacable
[22:11] <Guest22227> Hi! I can't install some packages using synaptic or apt-get. I get something like "impossible to resolve dependencies. The package gfortran depends on gfotran-4.2 and won't be installed" when I try to install, for example, the package gfotran. Moreover, I have little stars over almost all checkboxes in synaptic. Can anyone give me some help? I've search the web but found nothing.
[22:11] <r3dwa11> i think realtek suport
[22:11] <Younder> xig yes
[22:11] <Shu> Attention everyone, I need some serious help. Here's the problem: I have a Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet Adapter, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my other computer, and I cannot figure out how to make it work on that computer. The other computer does not have any internet access what so ever. The items at my disposal: Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet USB, and a 2GB Flash Drive. If you need any other information, just ask. P.S. Thi
[22:11] <Shu> s computer that I am on is a dinosaur, so it may not be up to par with what you need me to do with it. P.S.S. I need to be spoon fed here. I am completely clueless when it comes to technical stuff like this, sorry.
[22:11] <Lint> Is there some *working* Applications menu-editing tool??
[22:11] <Jester05> r3dwa11, realtek driver works for my usb zonet card... wireless a/b/g i think
[22:11] <Jester05> its old..
[22:11] <Jester05> lol
[22:12] <gigasoft> Your input can't be opened:
[22:12] <gigasoft> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'. Check the log for details. any help?
[22:12] <xig> Younder: would yo be so nice as to tell me where i can find it?
[22:12] <acicula> Lint: right clicking on applications not working for you?
[22:12] <r3dwa11> i use it 2 for my atheros card
[22:12] <Jester05> i know for a fact that this card works well under linux via realtek 2500 ish driver
[22:12] <Jester05> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833130111
[22:12] <frostburn> gigasoft, check ~/.xsession_errors
[22:13] <acicula> Jester05: no wpa2 :/
[22:13] <Lint> acicula, no, that program do not work: it cannot create new items or edit existing
[22:13] <Younder> xig : http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&q=kramic+ubuntu+install&btnG=Søk&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[22:13] <Jester05> acicula, as I mentioned above... this is an old card ;)
[22:13] <Shu> Attention everyone, I need some serious help. Here's the problem: I have a Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet Adapter, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my other computer, and I cannot figure out how to make it work on that computer. The other computer does not have any internet access what so ever. The items at my disposal: Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet USB, and a 2GB Flash Drive. If you need any other information, just ask. P.S. Thi
[22:13] <Shu> s computer that I am on is a dinosaur, so it may not be up to par with what you need me to do with it. P.S.S. I need to be spoon fed here. I am completely clueless when it comes to technical stuff like this, sorry.
[22:13] <r3dwa11> no wpa or wpa2 yet i think
[22:13] <Younder> xig : the obvious
[22:14] <xig> Younder: this is not about installing karmic. did you actually read my question?
[22:14] <Jester05> well gentlemen I have to go be a nerd in a lab for the rest of the evening
[22:14] <Jester05> ive been sick all week and now i have to play catchup :(
[22:14] <acicula> xig were you using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile ?
[22:14] <Jester05> I may get back online from in there tho .. odds are i'll get bored just working on stuff lol
[22:15] <Younder> xig: yes, sorry if I was a bit hasty
[22:15] <Shu> Attention everyone, I need some serious help. Here's the problem: I have a Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet Adapter, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my other computer, and I cannot figure out how to make it work on that computer. The other computer does not have any internet access what so ever. The items at my disposal: Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet USB, and a 2GB Flash Drive. If you need any other information, just ask. P.S. Thi
[22:15] <Shu> s computer that I am on is a dinosaur, so it may not be up to par with what you need me to do with it. P.S.S. I need to be spoon fed here. I am completely clueless when it comes to technical stuff like this, sorry.
[22:15] <airtonix> acicula, think you meant to respond to someone else... not me
[22:15] <trism> xig: try http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/11/03/how-to-compile-a-kernel-for-ubuntu-karmic/
[22:15] <oCean_> !patience | Shu
[22:16] <acicula> airtonix: err?
[22:16] <xig> Younder: *of course* i did take a look at the obvious locations, but commands and files on that ressource does not quite match those i see when unpacking a recent ubuntu-patched kernel tarball.
[22:17] <draconis> Shu, is the interface even loaded, check ifconfig
[22:17] <dotblank> hmm I ant seem to get my conky to stick to my desktop
[22:17] <dotblank> cant*
[22:17] <r3dwa11> r3dwa11 goes gaming see ya later folks and yes ! xp still rules for ultimate gaming
[22:17] <airtonix> inb4 rage flame
[22:18] <Shu> draconis, what do you want me to do?
[22:18] <Shu> Put ifconfig in the terminal?
[22:18] <Zxcvb> if I am going to be using the same custom kernel on both a Pentium M and an Core2 system, which processor family would it be best to select?
[22:18] <squarebracket> does system-->preferences-->sound just edit a config file?
[22:18] <Younder> xig: I'll have to come back to you later.
[22:18] <akrohit> My laptop just freezes after coming up from suspend. Need help. I use 'pm-suspend' for susending
[22:18] <LondonFog> Is there a specific channel for netbook help?
[22:18] <draconis> Shu, yes
[22:18] <xig> Younder: you're welcome to PM me
[22:18] <marilyn> I can no longer switch off my Touch Pad. Have option to disable while typing, but it doesn't work. Any help, Thanks
[22:19] <rfmonk> this is the gayest channel nowadays
[22:19] <rfmonk> should call it windows convert channel
[22:19] <airtonix> yes, it's very happy
[22:19] <Shu> I did draconis. What should I be looking at. I don't see anyhting that's related to my wireless adapter (btw, the wireless adapter is plugged into this ocmputer)
[22:19] <PeterBendtsen> Zxcvb: ( ) 586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX
[22:19] <draconis> Shu, it should be there if you are running Karmic, it's in 2.6.31 kernel
[22:19] <mac9416> Hey, y'all!  If that default sh*t worked, I woudn't ask
[22:20] <Lint> Or how can I edit it manually?
[22:20] <jetienne_> q. the notification on screen display is not at the proper place, how can i tune it ?
[22:20] <acicula> rfmonk: well that happens when you go from a sytem that requires 10 fingets and a left toe to operate to something that just needs a few cliks to install
[22:21] <trism> jetienne_: you can't, until they decide to add an option to notify-osd (which they are currently refusing to do)
[22:21] <draconis> Shu, "plugged in" as in USB?
[22:21] <Shu> draconis, I have no idea what you just said. I don't know what Karmic is, or 2.6.31 kernel
[22:21] <PeterBendtsen> abhinavlal: you need an initrd?  use a boot disk and make initrd or build your filesystem / chipset into the kernel
[22:21] <Younder> xig: feel free to restate the question here. I am not the only one.
[22:21] <Shu> draconis, yes
[22:21] <draconis> Shu, Ubuntu 9.10 is karmic
[22:21] <Shu> but it's plugged into this computer right now
[22:21] <airtonix> lint, are you referring to : alacarte
[22:21] <Shu> Oh
[22:21] <Shu> I thought it was juanty
[22:21] <jetienne_> trism: why is it now in the middle of the screen ? it was top right on 9.04 ?
[22:21] <draconis> Shu, go get karmic then
[22:21] <Apocapus> Hi
[22:21] <gigasoft> i have problem to play encrypted dvd with  many's, i tryed all. any help?
[22:21] <Apocapus> Ummm Im new to ubuntu
[22:21] <Shu> I don't have 9.10. 9.04
[22:21] <oCean_> Lint: get any errors while using right-click and edit menus? This should work (it does for me)
[22:21] <draconis> Shu, jaunty kernel doesn't include the driver
[22:21] <rfmonk> is seems the major malfunction Ive noticed is people who wont or cant read
[22:22] <PeterBendtsen> Apocapus: RUN AWAY!
[22:22] <sam_> test
[22:22] <sam_> ping
[22:22] <abhinavlal> PeterBendtsen: i did an initrd... check the code see if i'm doing something wrong
[22:22] <Shu> I can't get Karmic if I can't update the computer...
[22:22] <rfmonk> or dont know how to use Google
[22:22] <Apocapus> Run away?
[22:22] <draconis> Shu, otherwise you have to get these: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ar9170
[22:22] <Apocapus> Is something about to happen?
[22:22] <trism> jetienne_: thread<EMAIL_ADDRESS>explaining the reasoning
[22:22] <draconis> Shu, yeah, you download a new CD and install
[22:22] <Lint> yes, I mean alacarte, it has edit buttons but they silently fail
[22:22] <PeterBendtsen> abhinavlal: pastebin blocks my proxy
[22:22] <abhinavlal> PeterBendtsen: check the forum link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1320546&highlight=grub+command+line
[22:22] <Shu> draconis, it takes weeks to get a new cd
[22:22] <arand> gigasoft: you installed libdvdcss2?
[22:22] <Apocapus> Ummm I downloaded an MMO I have Wine installed and the MMO won't run
[22:23] <gigasoft> yes
[22:23] <trism> jetienne_: I'd like to fix it too, hopefully they'll make it more configurable for lucid
[22:23] <iceroot> Apocapus: have a look at the appdb
[22:23] <airtonix> Apocapus, cool story bro, care to give more details?
[22:23] <draconis> Shu, then you have to download the kmods by hand, compile and install them, and you won't want to update or upgrade from Jaunty
[22:23] <rfmonk> Im going to create Ubuntoob, video tuts for all the nuts
[22:23] <Apocapus> Ummm Appdb?
[22:23] <iceroot> !appdb | Apocapus
[22:23] <jetienne_> trism: so for 6 months the notification will be buggy ?
[22:23] <airtonix> Apocapus, google : winehq appdb
[22:23] <jetienne_> trism: i hide my opinion :)
[22:23] <Shu> draconis, that link you gave me, I have no idea what I'm looking at. You need to take me step by step. I know almost nothing abou tUbuntu
[22:24] <Shu> and I have no idea what you just said either
[22:24] <PeterBendtsen> abhinavlal: i really dont care that much
[22:24] <airtonix> rfmonk, your effort will be in vain
[22:24] <jetienne_> trism: notice that shuttleworth is even in this thread. manager must never impact tech stuff. only features. and im cto :)
[22:24] <draconis> Shu, I also don't think you have access to a sources tree
[22:24] <abhinavlal> PeterBendtsen: thanks anyway ....
[22:25] <Shu> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
[22:25] <iceroot> Shu: what is the probem?
[22:25] <draconis> Shu, I told you just to upgrade if you didn't want to have to learn how to build kernel modules
[22:25] <airtonix> shu, it means you're not allowed to do any gardening
[22:25] <PeterBendtsen> abhinavlal: use boot cd until you care to figure it out...i use lilo and never have any problems....and i dont use NTLOADER
[22:25] <draconis> and, if upgrading means mail-ordering disks, then do that
[22:25] <Shu> iceroot, one sec
[22:25] <jetienne_> trism: in short, this is just poor management :)
[22:25] <sllide> how do i recognize my joystick?
[22:26] <Shu> Attention everyone, I need some serious help. Here's the problem: I have a Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet Adapter, and I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my other computer, and I cannot figure out how to make it work on that computer. The other computer does not have any internet access what so ever. The items at my disposal: Netgear WNDA3100 Wireless Internet USB, and a 2GB Flash Drive. If you need any other information, just ask. P.S. Thi
[22:26] <Shu> s computer that I am on is a dinosaur, so it may not be up to par with what you need me to do with it. P.S.S. I need to be spoon fed here.  Open a dialogue window with me if you can help, I'll be back in 10 minutes
[22:27] <abhinavlal> PeterBendtsen: Even i dont use NTloader i did it just one and i am cursing myself for that
[22:27] <jetienne_> A guiding principle in Ayatana is to *reduce* customisation, not
[22:27] <jetienne_> increase it.
[22:27] <Lint> if I want to edit menu manually, where should I look?
[22:27] <jetienne_> poor move
[22:27] <diego__> Hi! I can't install some packages using synaptic or apt-get. I get something like "impossible to resolve dependencies. The package gfortran depends on gfotran-4.2 and won't be installed" when I try to install, for example, the package gfotran. Moreover, I have little stars over almost all checkboxes in synaptic. Can anyone give me some help? I've search the web but found nothing.
[22:27] <sllide> soo, airtonix: how do i do that? xD
[22:27] <fax> I have both ubuntu and mac on this but I can only go between them using the boot discs (both).. is there an eaisier way to choose which one to startup in?
[22:27] <oCean_> Lint: somewhere in /usr/share/menu for starters, but i reckon that's not all
[22:28] <PeterBendtsen> abhinavlal: so boot your unbutard with a bootdisk and see how many weeks you can go without rebooting...you will figure it out before you reboot........maybe
[22:28] <diego__> Anyone knows what a star in Synaptic's checkboxes means?
[22:28] <insm0d> Shu, in order to get support for drivers not included in the linux source code, you will need to have a copy of the source code and the source code of the drivers.  Don't freak out, you don't need to have any programming knowledge to compile and install the linux kernel and drivers
[22:28] <airtonix> its complicated, but I just helped you ask the right question
[22:28] <Lint> diego__, are you using the wrong repositories enabled?
[22:28] <diego__> Lint: wrong repositories?
[22:28] <Lint> diego__, also try sudo apt-get update
[22:28] <abhinavlal> PeterBendtsen: will try that
[22:29] <diego__> Lint: I already did sudo apt-get update
[22:29] <diego__> Lint: But nothing changed
[22:29] <PeterBendtsen> abhinavlal: wipe your mbr, delete windows, install a new distro, etc...
[22:29] <arand> oCean_: Lint: I don't think global settings would be the right way to go, should be settings for menu in home dir
[22:29] <airtonix> slide, i mean for as start, what kind of port do you use on the computer to connect the joystick?
[22:30] <diego__> Lint: How is that about using the wrong repositories? How can I know that?
[22:30] <sllide> USB
[22:30] <oCean_> arand: yeah, you're probably right.
[22:30] <sllide> airtonix: i dont know the type or anything
[22:30] <airtonix> slide, what brand and model number is it? have you already tried using google and searching for : ubuntu <brand> <model.no>
[22:30] <MoTec> fax: yes, it's called a boot loader.  you need to use one...  ubuntu installs grub.. if you don't have a boot disk in whatever loads is due to the bootloader installed on your primary hard drive's active partition
[22:30] <sllide> i have no idea what it is :(
[22:30] <sllide> i can search it on DX...
[22:31] <Lint> diego__, open Software sources and tell us what's there
[22:31] <fax> well can I choose which OS to start into when I turn on the computer
[22:31] <fax> ?
[22:31] <airtonix> slide, since it's USB... plug it in and open a command line console, then type : sudo lsusb
[22:31] <fax> right now I have to  put in the ubuntu CD and shut down and then use it to get into ubuntu..
[22:31] <fax> (which is a hassle to keep putting in these CDs)
[22:31] <PeterBendtsen> fax: keep the cd in
[22:31] <airtonix> slide, copy that info to a text file and keep it handy for later
[22:31] <insm0d> fax, yes.  If grub is properly set up (and it usually is) you will have a menu to select what operating system to boot up
[22:31] <MoTec> fax: yes.  you need to configure a bootloader.. either the mac's or ubuntu's and make sure your system is setup to boot to that bootloader
[22:31] <fax> no there is no menua
[22:32] <MoTec> fax: what happens if you turn it on with no disk at all?
[22:32] <sllide> airtonix: i found it http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.618
[22:32] <diego__> Lint: Just a minute
[22:32] <draconis> don't you need a special bootloader for EFI?
[22:32] <fax> MoTec it goes onto the one I was in last
[22:32] <fax> either ubuntu or mac
[22:32] <BrixSat> hello
[22:32] <sweetandy> rEFIt
[22:32] <PeterBendtsen> i thought mac was ubuntu
[22:33] <airtonix> lulz
[22:33]  * PeterBendtsen ^5s airtonix
[22:33] <wargas> #laselfow
[22:33] <airtonix> PeterBendtsen, it does have similarities at the CLI level if you have fink installed
[22:34] <jetienne_> well i dunno where to protest but in short, i would like to be able to read notifications. no matter what shuttle worth says, notifications are there to be read
[22:34] <PeterBendtsen> fink different!
[22:34] <diego__> Lint: I noticed there that I had one repository for Intrepid there. I dechecked that
[22:34] <draconis> but Mac OS X is an operating system, Ubuntu is a distribution
[22:34] <airtonix> PeterBendtsen, but even then it isn't really like ubuntu, just more like debian....not even then..
[22:34] <fax> isn't ubuntu an operating system
[22:34] <TULLAL> yes
[22:34] <PeterBendtsen> no
[22:34] <airtonix> 42
[22:34] <PeterBendtsen> 37
[22:34] <acicula> fax: depends on your definition, but in general its yes
[22:35] <TULLAL> mandriva better?
[22:35] <arand> Lint: I think ~/.config/menus would be the place to look, editing the applications.menu would override the global default I think
[22:35] <insm0d> fax, ubuntu is a linux distrobution.
[22:35] <sweetandy> and if anybody says Linux is an operating system, they're wrong.
[22:35] <airtonix> ^
[22:35] <acicula> ohnoes
[22:35] <PeterBendtsen> if anyone says ubuntu is linux, they're wrong.
[22:35] <MoTec> when you boot up ubuntu it should have a grub menu.  you can configure this to load osx, also.
[22:35] <fax> ok this is too confusing for me
[22:35] <jetienne_> :)
[22:35] <RenatoSilva> is there a way to mount a host partition from the guest os in virtual box?
[22:35] <jetienne_> guys
[22:35] <puff> How do I determine if a given isntall is LTS or not?
[22:35] <fax> im not really smart enough to use linux
[22:35] <puff> Is there a channel for ubuntu LTS?
[22:35] <rictec> Ubuntu is linux
[22:35] <insm0d> PeterBendtsten, explain...
[22:36] <MoTec> http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-gutsy-and-mac-osx-leopard-1051/2008/02/28 check that out fax
[22:36] <PeterBendtsen> rictec: WROANG
[22:36] <acicula> fax: its an operating system
[22:36] <arand> !ot
[22:36] <puff> And is it possible to convert to LTS without major hassels?
[22:36] <Lint> could you people attend more to problems and fscking less to the holywar sh*t?!
[22:36] <fax> so should I use Gutsy instead of Karmic?
[22:36] <acicula> puff: youu cannot downgrade to LTS
[22:36] <rafael__> tem brasileiro ae ?
[22:36] <acicula> or downgrade versions period for that matter
[22:36] <MoTec> it's got the grub edit you need to make.. something like adding: title Mac OSX Leopard
[22:36] <PeterBendtsen> Lint: what problems
[22:36] <MoTec> kernel (hd0,x)/boot/boot_v8
[22:36] <ardchoille> fax: I find Jaunty to be very nice
[22:36] <rictec> PeterBendtsen, ubuntu is linux
[22:37] <PeterBendtsen> ubuntu is designed so a grandma can use it
[22:37] <puff> acicula: How would I detect whether or not a given box is LTS?
[22:37] <PeterBendtsen> NO PROBLEMO
[22:37] <acicula> puff: err, lsb_release -a ?
[22:37] <fax> I wish it was that easy
[22:37] <diego__> Lint: I have a message that says that I have the libfreetype6-dev package broken. Could that be the problem. If so, how could I fix it?
[22:37] <Lint> PeterBendtsen, it's support channel, if you haven't already noticed
[22:37] <puff> acicula: Okay, so if it's LTS it should show up in the lsb_release -a output.
[22:37] <glick> fax ubuntu is indeed an operating system
[22:37] <PeterBendtsen> 1622 people needing ubuntu support?
[22:37] <acicula> ah yes, puff lsb_release -a will tell you distro and revision
[22:37] <glick> linux is just one component of the operating system
[22:37] <arand> puff: lsb_release -a will give you release version, 6.06 and 8.04 are LTS
[22:37] <rictec> PeterBendtsen, so eveybody here are grandma lol
[22:37] <puff> Then this box I'm trying to help my friend troubleshoot is not LTS.  It like somebody clicked on the dist-upgrade button.
[22:37] <Andrew__> hi guys
[22:37] <PeterBendtsen> im spoiled...i have no problems solving my own problems with linux distros
[22:38] <puff> And  upgraded it to karmic.
[22:38] <glick> you could take out linux and replace it with hurd for example or solaris
[22:38] <rafael__> hahaha grandma can use ubuntu ?
[22:38] <puff> Since I'm pretty sure it wasn't karmic before.
[22:38] <Andrew__> HI GUYS!
[22:38] <glick> and it has been done
[22:38] <acicula> puff: well it probably is not tagged there as LTS, it will just say 7.04 ?
[22:38] <Andrew__> CLICK THIS LINK
[22:38] <Andrew__> http://ihatejade.com/?id=ea2j9m226fmtuok0hfkliu8s0fltz9
[22:38] <Andrew__> http://ihatejade.com/?id=ea2j9m226fmtuok0hfkliu8s0fltz9
[22:38] <FloodBot1> Andrew__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <glick> fax, i still run jaunty on my desktop
[22:38] <acicula> puff: some ubuntu versions are LTS versions, means they are supported way longer, but i dont think lsb_release adds that information
[22:39] <rafael__> 9.10 linux as it is
[22:39] <glick> if it works for you and you like it, you dont HAVE to switch right away
[22:39] <flootenkerp> Hi, fast and easy question, what's the terminal code to install all java apps?
[22:39] <puff> acicula: Well it's karmic, so.
[22:39] <rafael__> i use jaunty
[22:39] <glick> you still have a year of updates on jaunty
[22:39] <puff> I need to upgrade my personal box.
[22:39] <puff> But that's for later...
[22:39] <arand> puff: the version before karmic (9.04 jaunty) wasn't LTS either
[22:39] <PeterBendtsen> flootenkerp: ubuntu has infected your brain
[22:39] <lovre> weeee, ubuntu and windows7 integration in its highest:   http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6748/snapshot2y.png
[22:40] <DrX> how do you make a directory read only (except for root) but all subdirectories read/write for authenticated samba users and inaccessible to non-authenticated users?
[22:40] <puff> So, what happened is, they were using an X client (well, technically an X server in X nomenclature) to remote desktop to this box.
[22:40] <flootenkerp> It has peter
[22:40] <davidboy> !ot
[22:40] <flootenkerp> I'm on ubuntu fever
[22:40] <puff> And after upgrading to karmic, they can't.
[22:40] <flootenkerp> Now, someone please give me a terminal code for all ubuntu apps
[22:40] <RenatoSilva> rafael__: hi, which city
[22:40] <puff> I need to switch them over to LTS, sometime... I don't think they really need the grief.
[22:40] <PeterBendtsen> flootenkerp: you said java apps
[22:40] <flootenkerp> I just finfished a fresh ubuntu install of 9.10 and I am LOVING it
[22:40] <Lint> DrX, no
[22:40] <flootenkerp> oops
[22:40] <flootenkerp> Java apps
[22:40] <rafael__> puff as that is the karmic
[22:40] <flootenkerp> To run videos and such
[22:40] <rictec> anyone here can point me to a vpau test app?
[22:41] <mespejel> hello.. i select hardware drivers option. and i successful install the broadcom sta wireless driver.. but for some reason i cant install the nvidia accelerated graphics driver :(
[22:41] <PeterBendtsen> flootenkerp: loving the instability and slowness?
[22:41] <mespejel> any idea?
[22:41] <glick> yeah i just installed 9.10 on my netbook
[22:41] <glick> seems nice
[22:41] <MoTec> puff: likely port 6000 is blocked
[22:41] <acicula> puff: easier to wait 6 months and swapthem to LTS 10.4 ?
[22:41] <flootenkerp> Peter, 9.10 isn't unstable
[22:41] <mespejel> i click activate but nothing happens
[22:41] <flootenkerp> it's actually vety good
[22:41] <puff> acicula: It might be, yeah.
[22:41] <flootenkerp> For a beta
[22:41] <PeterBendtsen> lovre: hax
[22:41] <lovre> PeterBendtsen: what do you mean?
[22:41] <arand> !medibuntu > flootenkerp
[22:41] <flootenkerp> Not to mention, I just left vista for this
[22:41] <netbook> Anyone know how to enable system try notification for updates!?!?
[22:41] <puff> MoTec: yeah, I'm assuming the upgrade undid the changes I had to make to allow port 6000.
[22:41] <oCean_> flootenkerp:  this is ubuntu support, not chat
[22:41] <DrX> Lint: it can't be done?
[22:41] <flootenkerp> Exactly
[22:41] <glick> hey is there a way for all applications to show up on the bottom panel regardless of what virtual desktop they are one?
[22:42] <puff> MoTec: Do you know offhand where to find t he info on how to dot hat?  I'm gogling on it now.
[22:42] <glick> on
[22:42] <flootenkerp> And I'm asking for a terminal code
[22:42] <mespejel> so any idea?
[22:42] <mespejel> can someone help me with that please
[22:42] <flootenkerp> So what is the terminal code for java?
[22:42] <flootenkerp> I want to enable vids
[22:42] <mespejel> i cant install the vidia graphics driver using the hardware drivers option
[22:42] <Lint> DrX, you need all parent dirs to be writable for child to be writable
[22:42] <puff> Oh, and if you want to feel good about this, they're using this to improve cancer treatment, so you're helpnig cure cancer :-)
[22:42] <mespejel> i click active and try to download but it fail
[22:42] <MoTec> is it under System > Administration > Login ?
[22:42] <mespejel> ?
[22:42] <lovre> PeterBendtsen: what do you mean hax?
[22:42] <MoTec> puff is it under System > Administration > Login ?
[22:42] <arand> !medibuntu > flootenkerp
[22:42] <rictec> mespejel, failed how?
[22:42] <glick> anyone?
[22:42] <acicula> glick: right click panel in the right place , dont group, show all
[22:42] <arand> !java > flootenkerp
[22:43] <ardchoille> glick: Taskbar prefs. "Show windows fro all workspaces"
[22:43] <flootenkerp> Thanks
[22:43] <mespejel> rictec, well it just fail to install it
[22:43] <netbook> Ubuntu 9.10: Anyone know how to enable system try notification for updates!?!?
[22:43] <Lint> DrX, or may be not
[22:43] <netbook> * meant tray
[22:43] <DrX> Lint: well, can you at least make them writable to authenticated samba users but not to non-authenticated users?
[22:43] <glick> ardchoille, where do i access that?
[22:43] <insm0d> PeterBendtsen, I really don't care for Ubuntu either, mainly it's impossible to configure it to my liking, but this is a support channel, not a rant channel.  Please email or write Canonical and let them know what you think of their product, don't post it here because no one will listen
[22:43] <rictec> mespejel, no error messages?
[22:43] <ardchoille> netbook: Unless you changed it, that should be done by default
[22:43] <acicula> netbook: add to panel -> system tray
[22:43] <shuochen> what's easiest way to get previous ubuntu 7.04 build-essential repos on a cd without a working modem
[22:43] <MoTec> hmm.. puff http://gregorygrubbs.com/development/get-remote-x-working-in-karmic/
[22:43] <neo_> hay does anyone know where i can get notepad ++ for ubuntu?
[22:43] <ardchoille> glick: right-click the taksbar applet
[22:44] <puff> I'm currently reading this: http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/24/Ubuntu-Enabling-remote-Xwindows
[22:44] <arand> glick: click the start of the window list (the small dots) > properties
[22:44] <mespejel> rictec, noup
[22:44] <lovre> neo_: you cant. There is no linux version of notepad++
[22:44] <Shu>   insm0d
[22:44] <MoTec> puff: that's old
[22:44] <Billiard> neo_: notepad++ is only for windows, but you can run it using wine
[22:44] <puff> Hm, but that quietearth page doens't mention mucking with a gnome file... I defnitely remember having to do that.
[22:44] <ardchoille> glick: It's called window list, it's all the buttons for the open apps
[22:44] <insm0d> neo_, gedit has many of the same features as notepad++
[22:44] <alex_> hi all
[22:44] <draconis> vi should be enough for anyone
[22:44] <lovre> neo_: why would you want to use notepad++ when there is Kate and Gedit?
[22:44] <rictec> mespejel, chek if you can run update
[22:44] <davidboy> !ot
[22:44] <Shu> insm0d, could you give me a walkthrough for getting the drivers and stuff?
[22:44] <glick> sweeeet thanks
[22:44] <MoTec> puff: that's an old version.  this is for 9.10 http://gregorygrubbs.com/development/get-remote-x-working-in-karmic/
[22:45] <ardchoille> yw
[22:45] <snuffy47> I am looking to install Deluge on my new jaunty server and am having a hard time finding how toos
[22:45] <Shu> and iceroot
[22:45] <neo_> well im used to notepad ++ ive used it since i started html
[22:45] <rictec> mespejel, are you using that machine now?
[22:45] <alex_> hey, can somebody help me with a graphics issue in ubuntu 9.10
[22:45] <Shu> iceroot, got anything for me?
[22:45] <insm0d> Shu, I'll try, but there are a lot of steps.
[22:45] <sam_> ping
[22:45] <acicula> pong
[22:45] <neo_> ill go look up kate
[22:45] <Shu> okay insm0d
[22:45] <MoTec> runs it over ssh, using ssh to handle the port, heh
[22:45] <ardchoille> alex_: Please state the issue
[22:45] <draconis> neo_, try Bluefish, if you want a HTML text editor
[22:45] <Shu> insm0d, I'll open a dialogue window
[22:46] <puff> MoTec: Thanks... but I still remembe rhvaing to muck with a gnome config file.  Then again, maybe that's fixed in the newer version.
[22:46] <neo_> i have and its ok
[22:46] <rictec> alex_ what issue?
[22:46] <sweetandy> Everyone who wants to get their windows apps working under Ubuntu: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[22:46] <alex_> i have installed ubuntu 9.10 and no my maximum resolution is 800*600
[22:46] <PeterBendtsen> how many patches does the default ubuntu linux kernel apply to the linux kernel?
[22:46] <alex_> i don't know how to detect the graphic chip (it should be an intel)
[22:46] <rictec> alex_, what monitor/graphic card you have?
[22:46] <netbook> How can I tell what I have in my panel already??
[22:47] <Billiard> netbook: look at it?
[22:47] <arand> PeterBendtsen: look it up on launchpad.
[22:47] <PeterBendtsen> arand: im a noob
[22:47] <rictec> alex_, can you run a console "sudo lspci" and see what card it is?
[22:47] <ardchoille> netbook: right-click an applet and choose "About"
[22:47] <netbook> Billard I am trying to find where notifications will show up
[22:48] <Shu> insm0d, you there?
[22:48] <arand> !launchpad > PeterBendtsen
[22:48] <snuffy47> I am looking to install Deluge on my new jaunty server and am having a hard time finding how toos
[22:48] <PeterBendtsen> arand: i dont visit https links...they are insecure
[22:48] <snuffy47> I am looking to install Deluge on my new jaunty server and am having a hard time finding how toos.  The people on Deluge chat are mean
[22:48] <acicula> PeterBendtsen: unlike http links?
[22:48] <netbook> Still trying to figure out how to enable little orange update indicator
[22:48] <PeterBendtsen> acicula: exactly!
[22:49] <smwn> ping
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> alex_, "lspci | grep -i vga" will tell you the gfx card
[22:49] <arand> PeterBendtsen: then you won't get an answer. simple.
[22:49] <acicula> echo reply
[22:49] <ardchoille> netbook: Unless you changed it, that should be done by default
[22:49] <oCean_> snuffy47: deluge is in repositories.. "sudo apt-get install deluge" will do
[22:49] <fax> hey I put rEFIt on like you said but it doesn't show up on startup?
[22:49] <mespejel> rictec, i dont have the update option anymore:S cant found it.. where is supposed to be
[22:49] <netbook> ardchoille I didn't change it and it isn't there
[22:49] <ardchoille> netbook: it won't show up unless there are updates
[22:49] <netbook> ardchoille I see I need updates through the byubo screen manager
[22:49] <PeterBendtsen> i cant found the update option either
[22:49] <Toteter> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html sorry im just testing my page. enter if you want
[22:49] <rictec> mespejel, its on the system->administration
[22:49] <smwn> Does ubuntu work with N standard wifi?
[22:49] <puff> Here's the error log http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d52781090
[22:49] <smwn> or just b and g
[22:50] <netbook> ardchoille but no indicator
[22:50] <acicula> Toteter
[22:50] <arand> !update > PeterBendtsen
[22:50] <PeterBendtsen> lovre: how did you do that
[22:50] <snuffy47> w/ oCean_:  I installed it from that command but it will be headless and the documentation is noob unfreiendly
[22:51] <lovre> PeterBendtsen: well, i used VirtualBox to make it so... and it works great, ubuntu and windows side by side, no difference
[22:51] <PeterBendtsen> lovre: is that a google chrome icon or Iron?
[22:51] <lovre> PeterBendtsen: Google Chrome but for linux
[22:51] <PeterBendtsen> lovre: how did you get windows WINDOWS in ubuntu
[22:51] <lovre> PeterBendtsen: called Chromium
[22:51] <PeterBendtsen> Iron > Chromium
[22:51] <lovre> PeterBendtsen: i told you, i used VirtualBox, and its working perfect
[22:51] <PeterBendtsen> its chromium - google tracking features
[22:52] <arand> PeterBendtsen: hmm, ignore that last link, that was for upgrading ubuntu distro as opposed to upgrading packages..
[22:52] <PeterBendtsen> arand: i already ignored you
[22:52] <optimizer> how do I troublehsoot on ubuntu?
[22:52] <airtonix> snuffy47, doesn't deluge have a web interface?
[22:52] <optimizer> ubuntu 9.10 that is
[22:52] <BrixSat> hello any one knows a svn server? (if possible in php?
[22:52] <PeterBendtsen> !ops troll optimizer
[22:52] <airtonix> snuffy47, i'm pretty sure it does
[22:52]  * BrixSat slaps BrixSat around a bit with a large trout
[22:52] <oCean_> snuffy47: ah well, I'm not using it in cmdline mode...
[22:53] <MoTec> ubottu: don't sell yourself short.. you're smarter than a lot of those in here..
[22:53] <RichiH> PeterBendtsen: ?
[22:53] <Jester05> hey  Younder you still here?
[22:53] <PeterBendtsen> he asked how to troubleshoot on ubuntu RichiH
[22:53] <jpds> PeterBendtsen: What RichiH said.
[22:53] <PeterBendtsen> obvious troll is obvious
[22:53] <RichiH> PeterBendtsen: "he" being?
[22:53] <PeterBendtsen> optimizer:
[22:54] <Jester05> I think I found another problem with that whole ram being eaten issue.. deluge is also eating ram.. any chance i somehow got a virus?
[22:54] <snuffy47> w/ airtonix it does have a web interface and that is all I want to use but it will be running on a headless server
[22:54] <Jester05> all my ram is going to cache and a bunch of python scripts are being run
[22:54] <optimizer> err, how do I troubleshoot sound on ubuntu 9.10
[22:54] <lfaraone> Is it possible to interact with a serial port programmatically? I'm looking for something like minicom's runscript, but I need to use the current system time as a variable in my commands.
[22:55] <optimizer> err, how do I troubleshoot sound on ubuntu 9.10; i have done sudo aplay -l; with alsamixer, I have the volumes turned up; all I get is a low static on my speakers
[22:55] <jpds> !sound | optimizer
[22:55] <snuffy47> it seems deluge is the torrent to use but man the docs suck butt
[22:55] <rocky|raccoon> anyone have a good gamepad/usb controller that they could recommend for use in karmic? unfortunately i'm still on a ps/2 keyboard and that'll only register a certain amount of keypresses at once :>
[22:55] <airtonix> snuffy47, I assume you already have and know how to manipulate your server via ssh?
[22:55] <rictec> snuffy47, deluge is good i love it
[22:56] <neo_> well kate isnt great i might just stay with bluefish
[22:56] <jolaren> Ubuntu seems to hang itself quite often on my ion asrock 330.. Had some problems installing nvidia drivers but .. could that be the reasonn?
[22:57] <airtonix> snuffy47, some help might be gained from this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-938552.html
[22:57] <arand> optimizer: Try these two links (first one covers more, second is more specific w/ commands): http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-ubuntu-karmic-beta.html AND http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[22:57] <airtonix> snuffy47, also : http://superuser.com/questions/35919/which-torrent-apps-work-headless-from-command-line-only
[22:58] <airtonix> snuffy47, also : any reason why you're not using rTorrent instead?
[22:58] <airtonix> snuffy47, rTorrent has several XMLRPC interfaces available
[22:59] <airtonix> snuffy47, http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/UtilsList
[23:00] <puff> MoTec: I think this may be the problem:  http://www.peppertop.com/blog/?p=690
[23:00] <dido-kt> ohop
[23:01] <Silent_Echo> question to the room: i got a dvd but i cant watch it...do i need to download anything?
[23:01] <ardchoille> !DVD
[23:01] <ardchoille> Silent_Echo: ^^
[23:01] <Silent_Echo> ardchoille thx
[23:01] <ardchoille> yw
[23:03] <mah2223> hi guys, terminal & firefox launch when ubuntu boots up, any ideas how to get them to stop? they're not in startup applications as far as i can see
[23:04] <Tartaros> Jester05: what's with your ram again?
[23:04] <t00l> mah2223, no idea here
[23:04] <jolaren> Several times while browsing the web with firefox on my ubuntu 9.10 installation I loose the toolbar, or whatever its called where the X is located etc..
[23:04] <mah2223> ok, thanks for thinking about it
[23:04] <jolaren> Really annoying
[23:04] <ardchoille> mah2223: Startup apps, options tab.. did you check to "automatically remember.."?
[23:04] <Tartaros> mah2223: tried quitting them before you logged out, and/or disabling the "start what was on when quitting" thingy?
[23:05] <mah2223> yeah i looked at that
[23:05] <AtomicSpark> Oh noes, redirects.
[23:05] <mah2223> i know exactly what you mean
[23:05] <mah2223> that's unchecked
[23:05] <mah2223> i also looked at like firefox and terminal preferences
[23:05] <mah2223> and nothing's there
[23:05] <Tartaros> mah2223: sure you had it quit before logging out?
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> !enter > mah2223
[23:05] <eddym__> hey guys does this work at 6pm
[23:05] <eddym__> at> halt
[23:05] <eddym__> (Press CTRL+D)
[23:05] <eddym__> shut down pc
[23:05] <eddym__> ?
[23:05] <FloodBot1> eddym__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <mah2223> name: ubottu got it thanks
[23:06] <mah2223> oh i don't think i did the name thing right
[23:06] <Tartaros> !enter
[23:06] <cba123> Can I rsync multiple folders on 1 machine to 1 folder on another?
[23:06] <Tartaros> oh, that :)
[23:07] <mah2223> lol
[23:07] <mah2223> ok so no more ideas, huh?
[23:07] <Tartaros> mah2223: killall firefox before you log out, try again
[23:07] <mah2223> ok i'll give that a go right now
[23:08] <sam__> What is the cheapest printer availible in the UK that works 'out of the box?'
[23:08] <linxeh> heh
[23:08] <linxeh> buying a printer by its box price is a bad idea