[12:52] <stevenm> cfhowlett, it's ubuntu that is choosing to package the latest firefox and put it in main - even if the LTS is meant to be frozen for new features (security fixes and bugs only) - so it's ubuntu making that exception
[12:52] <stevenm> cfhowlett, nothing to do with the original authors
[12:53] <OerHeks> ngaio, sure, first look if there is a known related bugreport to confirm.
[12:53] <stevenm> e.g. firefox is now on version 35 - it's in 12.04 and 14.04 main - but it only got to version 35 only 3 days ago
[12:54] <ngaio> OerHeks, even if it's a hardware problem and the Ubuntu kernel team may not have access to that particular hardware? (an external USB hard drive case)
[12:55] <survietamine> hello, I want to fix this "Jan 16 12:04:47 mailhub-02 dovecot: config: Error: net_accept() failed: Too many open files", so I added "limit nofile 20480 20480" into /etc/init/dovecot.conf
[12:55] <OerHeks> ngaio, sure, unless it is custom made ofcourse
[12:55] <ngaio> OerHeks, I think it's JMicron
[12:55] <survietamine> but the limits are still 1024 4096 after restarting with restart dovecot
[12:55] <OerHeks> ngaio, is it a usb3 issue?
[12:55] <ngaio> OerHeks,
[12:55] <ngaio> yes
[12:56] <OerHeks> ngaio, oke then i would go for it. lots of issues with usb3 to solve.
[12:56] <ngaio> OerHeks, okay thank you. I'll install that hardware crash package then
[13:00] <ngaio> OerHeks, to report it so it's of any use, do I need to install one of the 600MB kernel ddeb packages?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> stevenm, I can't find it but there actually was a discussion on the issue you raise.  If I can regurgitate from memory: some packages, e.g. firefox, are considered critical and qualify for update during the LTS lifetime.  Some packages are not so critical, so no upgrade.  Sorry, no more I can add to this.
[13:02] <OerHeks> !bug
[13:02] <OerHeks> not sure you need to install anything, ngaio
[13:02] <stevenm> cfhowlett, ok I'm asking around in #ubuntu-mozillateam - it seems thunderbird gets the same deal too
[13:03] <cfhowlett> stevenm, I'm sure there's a list somewhere but I can't direct you.  sorry
[13:03] <OerHeks> ngaio, i am thinking about what package you need to file a bug against, maybe the kernel ?
[13:03] <stevenm> cfhowlett, you'd think LibreOffice would get the same deal so it follows the stable release (which the LibreOffice call 'Still') - it's at least as important and as useful to the desktop environment as firefox
[13:04] <cfhowlett> stevenm, I tend to agree :)  but then ... I'm only a user.
[13:04] <ngaio> OerHeks, I have no idea. All I know is that when I plug in the external drive, the kernel locks up. Here is where I found the link about install the 600MB debug kernel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[13:05] <riz0n> Hi, has anyone else noticed with the latest LTS that you have to sign in, then sign out, then sign in again to get an accurate number of updates Ubuntu needs (or if the system needs a restart)? What gives with this, and is there a solution to fix it? I don't think I can go another 2 and a half years like this LOL!
[13:06] <cfhowlett> riz0n, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:07] <riz0n> cfhowlett: I use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:10] <li_> dd
[13:11] <shaurya> hey
[13:11] <shaurya> need some help
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !ask | shaurya
[13:13] <shaurya> i'm installing the badgekit api from mozilla. anyone know why im getting this error when I run a script? http://pastebin.com/p26qNmVG
[13:15] <shaurya> !patience
[13:18] <b33tl3j00ce> exit
[13:19] <linuxmint> Any suggestions why sound won't work on Ubuntu 14.04 until I unpluged the HDMI and plug it in again?
[13:20] <tomodachi> DeaDSouL:  yes
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: sound on pc or external tv?
[13:22] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: sound on TV. No sound on pc.
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: you need to adjust sound settings, to the device you want to hear sound
[13:23] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: I mean the computer has no speakers to make any sound. I only need the sound on the TV, which has the speakers.
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you change sound settings to hdmi audio then?
[13:25] <gagalicious> mdadm: cannot open /dev/sda3: Device or resource busy
[13:25] <gagalicious> help
[13:25] <gagalicious> how can i solve this?
[13:25] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: on Ubuntu? Yes. On the TV, to HDMI 1, which worked, but now only works when unplugging the HDMI cable from the TV HDMI port (or the computer's HDMI port I think?) and plugging the HDMI cable back into the HDMI port.
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: i think its because ubuntu boots default sound on Os, and not on tv
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: note sure howto boot sound into external devices
[13:32] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: thanks. Will try to figure it out.
[13:32] <Lee-> linuxmint, a simple solution would be to disable the audio device in BIOS
[13:33] <BluesKaj_> linuxmint:  the soundcard should pass the spdif signal to the hdmi port if spdif is enabled
[13:33] <BluesKaj_> linuxmint:  check alsamixer
[13:34] <linuxmint> BlueByte: yes, checked alsamixer and volume is up. I'll try disabling the audio in BIOS.
[13:34] <linuxmint> Lee-: thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
[13:35] <BluesKaj_> linuxmint:  spdif output should be enabled  , no MM
[13:36] <linuxmint> BlueByte: in the Alsamixer settings?
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> linuxmint:  yes
[13:36] <linuxmint> BlueByte: what's MM?
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> mute
[13:36] <linuxmint> BlueByte: k, will try tomorrow. Thanks.
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> and my nick is BlueShark
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> :)
[13:37] <BluesKaj_> BluesKaj: )
[13:37] <linuxmint> BlueShark: ooops, sorry. Thanks BluesKaj_
[13:37] <BluesKaj_> ok
[13:37] <linuxmint> BluesKaj: ok.
[13:44] <antimatroid> so I'm trying to get a script to run whenever I connect to a wireless network (so I can stop drobox when tethering to my phone). I have added the script to /etc/network/if-up.d and made it executable, but it still doesn't seem to run. I've seen some comments suggesting I need wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces, but I'm not really sure how to add it properly? I tried adding "auto wlan0; post-up /etc/network/if-up.d/scriptname" to the file, but then networking
[13:44] <OpenSorce> sh: 1: Syntax error: "|" unexpected
[13:45] <OpenSorce> Linux wolfmothe-EL460AA-ABA-a1247c 3.13.0-44-generic #73-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 16 00:23:46 UTC 2014 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[13:45] <OpenSorce> Trying to remap middle mouse button to backspace
[13:46] <OpenSorce> Not having much luck with xmodkeys
[14:01] <blu3ski3s> hey is it possible to load VM at login (when you select what desktop eg, gnome kde etc) - virtualbox
[14:04] <madlybad> Hello
[14:04] <blu3ski3s> i believe they are called Desktop Environments, is it possible to load vm throught that?
[14:05] <madlybad> Do you meet with a strange thing? =Xubuntu 12.04 sometimes has sound, sometimes no...
[14:05] <cecja> blu3ski3s: do you mean a WM=Wibdow Manager or VM=Virtual Machine?
[14:05] <daru> kkutj6tr66h6t
[14:07] <blu3ski3s> cecja, sorry i dont understand your question. basicly boot into ubuntu get to login & based on Desktop Environment selected boot into say win7 or red hat etc
[14:07] <Filippo> ciao
[14:08] <Filippo> !list
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[14:13] <ZoneX-Crypto> <ZoneX-Crypto> just release couple 0day
[14:14] <blu3ski3s> can you stop spamming the channel please
[14:14] <cecja> !ops
[14:14] <ZoneX-Crypto> zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[14:15] <Pici> ZoneX-Crypto: Are you done?
[14:15] <blu3ski3s> kids these days...
[14:16] <blu3ski3s> i feel ubuntu > windows 7 vm will League of legends good :)
[14:16] <blu3ski3s> pretty quick atm
[14:17] <mucus> change ownership of a folder and all subfiles is chown newowner -R /directory ?
[14:17] <blu3ski3s> all depends on graphics drivers i guess
[14:17] <ramsrambo> I got an error install ubuntu 14.04.01 desktop - fatal error unable to install bootloader
[14:17] <blu3ski3s> yep
[14:18] <blu3ski3s> ramsrambo, retry install check install disk
[14:18] <blu3ski3s> ramsrambo, also why not use 14.10?
[14:19] <ramsrambo> blu3ski3s : anyway's of fixing this bootloader issue now
[14:19] <blu3ski3s> yeah liveboot and do grub install ill find a link for you
[14:20] <blu3ski3s> try this http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[14:21] <blu3ski3s> or this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> mucus, yes... however that will also change all the files inside that directory to have the newowner as well
[14:22] <mucus> pragmaticenigma: that is the intent
[14:22] <mucus> directory + all contained
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> mucus, depending on the folder, you may also want to change the owner and group.  for that it would be "chown newowner:newgroup -R /path/to/dir"
[14:23] <mucus> what differentiates group from owner?
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> blu3ski3s, because 14.04 is LTS support
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> mucus, different permissions can be set based on how a user is accessing a file or directory
[14:24] <mucus> hm, then i better do group and owner
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> mucus, if I own the file, but want all the system admins to have access as well, I can change the group to the sysadmins group and set the permissions as needed
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> mucus, so I would still have ownership of the file, but the group could access it as well.  It's not as important in a single user environment, but more so when multiple users use the same machine
[14:25] <mucus> but can't anyone with sudo access the file?
[14:26] <blu3ski3s> pragmaticenigma, sorry i thought 14.10 was LTS, im on 14.04 too
[14:26] <mucus> or is this just another set of users in addition to owner and super users?
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> mucus, not always true. sudo usually can get past some of the permissions, but it's not always the case
[14:26] <mucus> oh.
[14:27] <mucus> interesting!
[14:27] <blu3ski3s> not really :P zzzzzz
[14:28] <blu3ski3s> ?LIST
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> !list | blu3ski3s
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> lol
[14:28] <blu3ski3s> SHIFT IS STUCK
[14:28] <blu3ski3s> LOL
[14:29] <blu3ski3s> werid, better now
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> that happens every now and then when I'm using VNC
[14:32] <blu3ski3s> pragmaticenigma, im pretty sure it was just because i switched between windows VM and ubuntu
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> usually the same thing happens to me... go from something on my local machine to my VNC session, and the VNC client gets confused about the state of alt or shift key presses
[14:37] <chebit> hello, I have Ubuntu 14.10 64bit, AMD Phenom II X4 965, Graphics VeSA I have various issues, One is that nautilus sometimes no response when I write the name of directory
[14:38] <chebit> or rename this.
[14:38] <chebit> perhaps the video card settings?
[14:39] <f3lix> How would I go about "squashing" uid/gid on an ext4 or btrfs filesystem? Like an NTFS or vfat filesystem is mounted — everything is owned by root, but always 666 or 777 and everything written there automagically becomes the same…
[14:39] <chebit> I have ATI AMD Radeon HD 5670
[14:39] <blu3ski3s> 5650 here from memory
[14:40] <blu3ski3s> i dont have any issues on 14.04
[14:40] <pragmaticenigma> chebit, video card is unlikely preventing you from renaming files in nautilus. can you describe, in the best detail you can, what happens as you attempt to rename the folder. include all the steps taken from when you click on rename to when you finish.
[14:40] <chebit> With 14.04 it was all good !
[14:41] <blu3ski3s> any reason why you upgraded?
[14:41] <pragmaticenigma> f3lix, NTFS doesn't support unix/linux file persmission. the driver that allows you to write to the drive is setting fake permissions to allow the OS to read and write
[14:41] <rohanKanojia420> Ping
[14:41] <pragmaticenigma> !ping
[14:42] <chebit> pragmaticenigma, ok I'll try
[14:42] <chebit> thanks
[14:42] <f3lix> pragmaticenigma: exactly, and I'd like to mimic that behavior on an fs that does support proper permissions
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> f3lix, that is not recommended or best practice. that will open your system up to all sorts of vulnerabilities
[14:44] <f3lix> pragmaticenigma: i know, but I'm wondering if it's possible
[14:44] <chebit> The other problem is on gedit - text editor, sometimes blinks and closes when It's has long text, I 'll try see log files.
[14:44] <f3lix> pragmaticenigma: and to be precise, it'll open up that FILEsystem, not my system ;)
[14:45] <pragmaticenigma> f3lix, I don't fully understand what you are trying to accomplish then.
[14:46] <f3lix> pragmaticenigma: I'm trying to mount a regular linux filesystem so that it behaves like a FUSE-mounted NTFS or vfat filesystem would: Squashing all content to be owned by root:root, but readable and writable by all
[14:46] <survietamine> after adding a line with "limit nofile 50000 50000" into some upstart config file. I can see this is applied only after a reboot. Is it possible to apply it without rebooting, please?
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> f3lix, check out the documentation for fstab
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> !fstab | f3lix
[14:48] <f3lix> pragmaticenigma: in particular?
[14:49] <f3lix> assuming you have an idea on how to do it?
[14:49] <pragmaticenigma> f3lix, you can set options when the drive or partition is mounted there... I don't recall the exact method or options, but I've done something similar to mount samba shares locally
[14:50] <mindless_chaos> Okay, Seems like every time I update, it breaks my video driver. I have the AMD prop driver installed, and I am running 14.04. SO I have an update pop up today, I checked and it is set to leave my driver alone, and there are no driver and or kernel updates....
[14:50] <mindless_chaos> WHAT TO DO ...
[14:51] <f3lix> pragmaticenigma: I'm assuming you haven't read the fstab man page yourself, as mount options aren't discussed here; they're totally up to the fs to implement ;) And CIFS and NFS are a totally different ballgame, here we have e.g. root_squash to do it. Which is why I specifically asked about ext4 or btrfs. But thanks anyway :)
[14:52]  * ZoneX-Crypto location location :p
[15:15] <koichirose> Hello. Not sure if this is the right channel. I'm succesfully tailing multiple files at once with '-f', now I'd also like to grep only one of them. My not working attempt: http://pastie.org/9835395 - hints?
[15:17] <Pici> koichirose: You might want to look into multitail before going down the scripting route.  It has, somewhat complicated, but powerful matching and filtering features.
[15:18] <koichirose> Pici: I'm looking at it but I'm not sure if it can filter just one file
[15:18] <mindless_chaos> Okay, So I updated, and it didn't seem to break my video, however, after I login, the login screen lockes up... I know there is something to do when this happns to fix it... some one remind me
[15:20] <mindless_chaos> have to reinstall the greeter or something
[15:20] <mindless_chaos> any one have any idea
[15:21] <serversideup> Does anyone have any thoughts on connecting an Ubuntu 14.04 Server to a Cisco ASA VPN? I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/546677/vpn-between-ubuntu-server-14-04-1-lts-and-cisco-asa-5510 but all I need is to join 1 server as a client to the VPN. Is that link a little too over the top of what I am looking for?
[15:22] <Pici> koichirose: your example would be something like multitail --follow-all -e 'table_name' /var/log/mysql/error.log /var/log/apache2/error.log
[15:22] <EriC^^> mindless_chaos: what exactly is the problem?
[15:22] <mindless_chaos> hi eric
[15:22] <mindless_chaos> Okay, so I updated ubuntu
[15:22] <mindless_chaos> I have this issue everytime I update it breakes fgrlx
[15:23] <mindless_chaos> this is a fresh install of 14.04
[15:23] <mindless_chaos> with amd driver
[15:23] <mindless_chaos> this time it didnt break fgrlx
[15:23] <mindless_chaos> but after putting in my password on login screen it locks
[15:23] <mindless_chaos> I can ctrl+alt f2 to terminal, thats how I am on irssi
[15:24] <mindless_chaos> but the login screen is currently locked
[15:24] <EriC^^> mindless_chaos: locked how?
[15:24] <mindless_chaos> I know there is something that has to be done like reinstalling the greeter
[15:24] <EriC^^> you still have the login screen but it's frozen?
[15:24] <mindless_chaos> hit enter, accpets password, and I just see the login screen background
[15:24] <mindless_chaos> and it sits
[15:24] <mindless_chaos> I can still use term
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> but the login is locked
[15:25] <EriC^^> mindless_chaos: ok, did you try the guest account?
[15:25] <koichirose> Pici: I'm reading the docs :) thanks
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> disabled
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> OH wait, I have another account on here
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> WOOT
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> Ill try that. If I get in what do I do?
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> maybe I should add that user to sudoer
[15:25] <koichirose> Pici: I don't understand what '--follow-all' does
[15:25] <mindless_chaos> jic
[15:26] <EriC^^> mindless_chaos: you'll need to remove the config file that's causing the problem on your main account
[15:26] <mindless_chaos> okay
[15:26] <mindless_chaos> let me try
[15:26] <EriC^^> ok
[15:26] <mindless_chaos> brb
[15:27] <panther__> um.. is this the support channel
[15:27] <Pici> koichirose: actually, maybe you don't need that.  It means that if the file gets renamed, now follow the renamed file.
[15:27] <Pici> panther__: indeed.
[15:27] <panther__> ok then, i have a wireless network question
[15:28] <panther__> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 14.04 on an Acer netbook
[15:28] <panther__> and the wireless network seems to not work
[15:29] <mistawright> i am having an issue where rsyslog will be restarted by log rotate. once it is rotated rsyslog only sends locally logged items instead of the other logs it was set to send as well
[15:30] <panther__> i can see all of the networks in my area, it's just that when I connect to mine, KDE says 'Connection (my network) Deactivated'
[15:30] <panther__> lspci says
[15:30] <panther__> 07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[15:31] <panther__> hello?
[15:31] <panther__> My network is secured,  btw
[15:32] <panther__> and I have entered the right password
[15:32] <mindless_chaos> no go on the alternate login
[15:32] <mindless_chaos> I think I need to reinall unity
[15:32] <mindless_chaos> so I think I will make some breakast, then give it a go
[15:33] <mindless_chaos> I am pretty sure I have seen some doc on this issue, will let you know if it worked.
[15:35] <panther__> i have looked at the dmesg and it says that ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Wrong Mac address
[15:35]  * ZoneX-Crypto my God , there is Another Operating System Windows from dodohacker team?
[15:40] <EriC^^> mindless_chaos: ok
[15:41] <EriC^^> mindless_chaos: still there?
[15:42] <mindless_chaos> yeah
[15:42] <mindless_chaos> didnt work
[15:43] <mindless_chaos> im makin some omlets then im gonna reinstall unity
[15:43] <EriC^^> k
[15:49] <crippa> hello. I installed fail2ban and set this jail rule: "port: all", "filter:sshd", "logpath:/var/log/auth.log", "banaction:iptables-allports". Now there's sombody trying to ssh to all my ports 3 times each port, but his IP doesn't get blacklisted. why?
[15:53] <adunosine> SMP any one have information ??
[15:54] <OerHeks> adunosine, about ?
[15:54] <adunosine> SMP
[15:54] <adunosine> OerHeks: symmetric multiprocessing
[15:56] <OpenSorce> Would anyone here try to answer a lxde question? Just want to know before I flood the channel with it.
[15:56] <OerHeks> adunosine, what is your real question about smp? from 12.04 and up it is enabled default http://askubuntu.com/questions/193560/symmetric-multi-processing
[15:57] <adunosine> OerHeks: thank you im using 14.04 lts
[15:58] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: ask your question and if somebody knows they'll answer
[15:59] <OpenSorce> Thank you EriC^^, Ubunut 14.04.1 fresh install older single core machine. LXDE installed from the repos. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong, but does lxpanel support background imaes with transparency?
[15:59] <OpenSorce> *Ubuntu
[15:59] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: what do you mean?
[16:00] <Arizon> hi i'm getting setting capabilities for gnome-keyring-daemon using linux capabilities failed
[16:00] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: you mean the lxpanel at the bottom if it can be transparent and show the background behind it?
[16:00] <Arizon> when i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade on my nvidia jetson board that came with ubuntu pre intsalled
[16:00] <Arizon> it's stuck on a loading line and isn't going anywhere now... please help...
[16:01] <Sinton> hello
[16:01] <Sinton> i'm new
[16:01] <OpenSorce> No. I know how to do that. It supports using an image in the lxpanel. I was wondering if it is supposed to support using images with transparency in the image. Like a png.
[16:02] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, if so it's not working for me.
[16:03] <Arizon> am i good to just restart?
[16:15] <Guest47664> hi
[16:16] <sudormrf> !ping
[16:16] <wonderworld> ouch
[16:17] <Pgx13> heello  people =) does anyone knows why I can't fully change the menu setting in gnome flashback?  https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/NfuKvneQQAKNB28AAuCy https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/uny7toyHQ72h7uQr2GTA
[16:18] <basichash> what's a great cli program for money management?
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> basichash, a plain text file?
[16:19] <teward> basichash: i don't think you'll find one, really - why do you need CLI though?
[16:21] <basichash> pragmaticenigma, teward: something with good keybindings, where i can easily add a new purchase or whatever, rather than have to fck about with a GUI
[16:24] <pbx> basichash, your comment about keybindings makes me think you mean terminal-based, not CLI?
[16:24] <pbx> in that case perhaps emacs has an answer for you. e.g. http://emacswiki.org/emacs/SpreadSheet
[16:27] <basichash> pbx: i thought they were effectively the same thing
[16:27] <pbx> basichash, no, CLI means you are typing commands one at a time at a prompt.
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> basichash, depends on who you talk to. some think of CLI as being an execute only environment, non-interactive
[16:28] <teward> basichash: please don't use the bad language either - this is a family friendly channel
[16:28] <basichash> teward: i left out the u, don't worry
[16:29] <Pgx13> heello  people =) does anyone knows why I can't fully change the menu setting in gnome flashback?  https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/NfuKvneQQAKNB28AAuCy https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/uny7toyHQ72h7uQr2GTA
[16:29] <SchrodingersScat> basichash: obfuscation doesn't earn points here, just leave it out entirely please.
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> Says the person with fecal matter in their name, SchrodingersScat
[16:32] <basichash> fair point
[16:32] <basichash> talk about the tupperware calling the china black
[16:32] <wonderworld> indeed :)
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> basichash, I don't think there are a lot of money management applications written for a text only interface. I get what you are trying to do, was a big fan of the old DOS version of quicken
[16:33] <basichash> pragmaticenigma: ah that's a shame. I generally don't use a mouse, so i was hoping i could find a tool that allowed me to record transactions, etc with some decent speed. guess i'll have to use my mouse then
[16:33] <wonderworld> if you just need to add up purchases, you could write a very simple script for it. maybe 10 line.
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> wonderworld, I think they intend this to be an everyday need
[16:34] <basichash> wonderworld: yeah it needs to be a little more complex than that unfortunately
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> basichash, there are some applications where the developers have added a lot of shortcut keys to the application to make navigating and simple tasks easier to process
[16:35] <basichash> pragmaticenigma, any recommendations?
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> basichash, I'm not too familiar with them as I run an instance of Quicken within WINE, which serves my needs
[16:36] <niceties> pragmaticenigma: usually the shortcut keys are defaulted by the developing environment used.
[16:36] <OpenSorce> 14.04.1 fresh install. How would I change the look of lightdm from Unity? Trying unity-tweaks-tool but I don't see the option for it.
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> !info ledger
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> OpenSorce, lightdm is not an interface, but a backend display manager. If you are looking to "skin" the login window, there are tools for that
[16:38] <pragmaticenigma> neat SchrodingersScat, I might have to check that one out too
[16:38] <niceties> OpenSorce: that's why I like xubuntu. Its easier and does use lightdm
[16:38] <mindless_chaos> ubuntu tweak has options to change the background
[16:38] <mindless_chaos> but there are some decent progs out there to really tweak it
[16:39] <OpenSorce> pragmaticenigma, I understand what it is. I was hoping Unity had advanced as far as KDE did many years ago and included a front end to do this.
[16:39] <niceties> OpenSorce: meant it doesn't use lightdm
[16:40] <OpenSorce> niceties, yeah think I'll switch to something a little more user friendly. Or at least something more familiar. I wonder if gdm and kdm are still around? :-P
[16:40] <pragmaticenigma> OpenSorce, Unity is canoncals attempt at giving a simple interface for all to Linux based OSs... They intentionally made it difficult to tweak things like the login window
[16:41] <Nickwiz> Why is there no /usr/lib/python2.7/config/ in Ubuntu 14.10 ?
[16:41] <OpenSorce> pragmaticenigma, again, I know what it is. But thanks!
[16:41] <mindless_chaos> I'll tell you what, regardless of the dificulty of changing unity, I really like it for it's simplicity
[16:42] <Nickwiz> Have sinatelled and re-installed bot python2.7 the -dev package etc. But none gives the config dir
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> OpenSorce, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-change-login-screen-background-remove-the-white-dots/
[16:42] <mindless_chaos> ubuntu tweak has option for dots
[16:43]  * mindless_chaos likes dots
[16:43] <pragmaticenigma> mindless_chaos, he's looking to change the image
[16:45] <mindless_chaos> ubuntu tweak>tweaks tab>login settings>Click unlock and put in password>then click button to change login screen
[16:45] <Voyage> how to install imap for apache?
[16:45] <OpenSorce> mindless_chaos, yeah not seeing the tweaks tab... likely because I am trying to launch it from lxde
[16:45] <Voyage> in ubuntu
[16:46] <OpenSorce> mindless_chaos, thanks a bunch for looking that up though man!
[16:46] <pragmaticenigma> OpenSorce, did you see the link I posted?
[16:47] <MaxFrames> hello please help with ddrescue
[16:47] <Coccobello> g
[16:48] <MaxFrames> I've been running it all day to copy a failing 80 gb hdd to an image file
[16:48] <MaxFrames> the target file size has grown up to 74.5 gb, it took hours and hoursù
[16:48] <MaxFrames> now the onscreen message is saying "copying non-tried blocks..." and the target file size has perhaps stopped growing
[16:49] <MaxFrames> I need to know if it's anywhere near the end of the process because I'll have to go home in half an hour
[16:49] <OpenSorce> pragmaticenigma, yes, yes I did. Using dconf-editor and advising users to run commands as root just to change a background image in the login screen? Seems pretty irresponsible.
[16:49] <MaxFrames> I cannot leave it running all weekend.....
[16:49] <MaxFrames> nor I am willing to redo from scratch......
[16:49] <MaxFrames> I have never used ddrescue before so please help me
[16:50] <sfdebug> hi, i'm in a trouble, i locked my desktop ("Windows Key" + l), after that, i didn't touch the keyboard nor mouse, so the screen fades into black, after some time, i came back and moved the mouse, but the login screen appeared without the "Password field", does anyone has any idea what can i do? I don't want to miss the session, thanks in advance!
[16:50] <Babycaz2> ff
[16:50] <Babycaz2> Who need a bit of shit ?
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> OpenSorce, it is not irresposible, what do you think Ubuntu Tweak is going to need to make the change permanent?
[16:50] <OpenSorce> pragmaticenigma, not a user at the CLI running as root?
[16:51] <mindless_chaos> think I have him in the right direction
[16:52] <Babycaz2> j. Who need a bit of shit ?
[16:52] <squinty> !ops
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> OpenSorce, if it was easy, you wouldn't be asking for help
[16:53] <undecim> OpenSorce, the login screen background is a system file, so yeah, you need root.
[16:54] <MaxFrames> anyone please?
[16:54] <undecim> MaxFrames?
[16:55] <mindless_chaos> anyone what?
[16:55] <MaxFrames> please see backlog
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> !anyone | MaxFrames
[16:55] <undecim> I don't have one
[16:55] <MaxFrames> scroll up I mean... I wrote many lines
[16:55] <undecim> I know. My IRC client is glitched
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | MaxFrames
[16:55] <undecim> I could exit, but then it would disappear
[16:56] <OpenSorce> pragmaticenigma, if it was east it wouldn't be Unity. And I would need to ask. :-)
[16:56] <mindless_chaos> i have never used ddrescue
[16:56] <mindless_chaos> not sure
[16:56] <undecim> Surely you could write a single-line summary
[16:57] <mindless_chaos> lol
[16:57] <MaxFrames> how can I tell the % progress of ddrescue=
[16:57] <MaxFrames> what does "copying non-tried blocks" mean
[16:58] <erichf> hello
[16:58] <undecim> MaxFrames, with dd, you can use a command in another terminal: sudo killall -SIGUSR1 dd ; not sure about ddrescue
[16:58] <alkisg> sfdebug: try pressing alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to a console, then login, then run `ps aux | grep screen` to see the screensaver pid, then `pkill pid` to kill it, then switch to alt+ctrl+f7=graphics again
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> !hello | erichf
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> ubottu fail
[16:58] <MaxFrames> but I dont want to kill it
[16:59] <undecim> MaxFrames, -SIGUSR1 wont kill it
[16:59] <MaxFrames> If i kill it, a whole day of work will be lost
[16:59] <undecim> At least not normal DD
[16:59] <undecim> MaxFrames, check the manual
[16:59] <MaxFrames> what will it do then?
[16:59] <undecim> Or do a test run with another ddrescue process
[16:59] <undecim> What package is ddrescue in?
[16:59] <MaxFrames> gddrescue
[17:00] <erichf> I am getting `WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/1000/keyring-vL7qEf/pkcs11: Connection refused p11-kit: skipping module 'gnome-keyring' whose initialization failed: An error occurred on the device` --> Here is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/1379728 --> Telling me to install from https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome-keyring... I go the install page and am confused
[17:00] <SchrodingersScat> !info gddrescue
[17:00] <sfdebug> alkisg, oh, good man, let me try that!!!
[17:00] <undecim> Ah. I saw the g in front and thought it was a GTK frontend XD
[17:00] <erichf> ubottu is pretty cool
[17:00] <erichf> kk
[17:00] <SchrodingersScat> !botsnack
[17:01] <erichf> Which architecture do I choose? amd64?
[17:01] <MaxFrames> it has been slowly building a 74.5 gb file on the target drive, it took about 8 hours, and now it's stuck on that message
[17:01] <sfdebug> alkisg, do you know the name of the process?
[17:01] <alkisg> sfdebug: what environment, unity?
[17:01] <sfdebug> alkisg, yes
[17:01] <MaxFrames> at the same time the message came out, the log has finally begun to be written
[17:01] <MaxFrames> up to then, no log file was created
[17:02] <alkisg> sfdebug: sorry I'm not using unity, don't you see it with ps aux | grep screen?
[17:02] <sfdebug> alkisg,  appeared "unit-panel-service" and "gnome-screensaver" services
[17:02] <alkisg> killall gnome-screensaver then
[17:03] <undecim>  MaxFrames, probably it's hitting the bad part of the drive then
[17:03] <undecim> MaxFrames, The log file is for logging failed operations, I think
[17:04] <MaxFrames> I don't get what it has been doing for 8 hours
[17:04] <MaxFrames> "non-tried blocks", what can it mean? the manual does not explain
[17:05] <alkisg> MaxFrames: open another terminal, and type this after reading/understanding it: sudo -i (press enter here) while pgrep ddrescue; do sleep 1m; done; sync; poweroff
[17:05] <alkisg> MaxFrames: this will close your pc when ddrescue ends
[17:06] <MaxFrames> but it's a laptop which means it would be plugged in for the weekend, which I am not comfortable with
[17:06] <MaxFrames> also the failing hdd is plugged in to a sata to usb adapter, which means it would be powered on for the weekend
[17:06] <cartnam> does the gcc that comes with ubuntu compiles automatically with c11?
[17:06] <MaxFrames> I cannot do that
[17:07] <undecim> MaxFrames, why for the weekend?
[17:07] <undecim> You goign somewhere?
[17:07] <MaxFrames> http://www.manpagez.com/info/ddrescue/ddrescue-1.18.1/ddrescue_5.php => can anyone figure out what "non-tried" means in ddrescue jargon?
[17:07] <MaxFrames> undecim: it's friday... I'm at the office
[17:08] <undecim> MaxFrames, Sounds like blocks that ddrescue hasn't tried to read yet
[17:08] <undecim> Those 2 devices should be fine to be plugged in over the weekend
[17:08] <sfdebug> alkisg,  i killed unity-panel-service but it came again without the password field... :(
[17:09] <MaxFrames> hey finally it is beginning to display some real time data!
[17:09] <user549p20> where can i go to get help with linux mint
[17:09] <MaxFrames> the "rescued" field is now constanlty increasing
[17:09] <alkisg> sfdebug: why did you kill the panel service and not the screensaver?
[17:09] <MaxFrames> (MB)
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> !mint | user549p20
[17:09] <sfdebug> alkisg, i killed screensaver first...
[17:09] <sfdebug> alkisg, after, i saw that and nothing changed...
[17:09] <sfdebug> alkisg, so i killed the panel too...
[17:10] <alkisg> sfdebug: for me, in gnome-flashback session, killall gnome-screensaver works
[17:12] <sfdebug> alkisg, i found something here that i'll test: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1311316/comments/13
[17:13] <MaxFrames> wait, isn't the whole purpouse of the log file to be able to resume ddrescue?
[17:14] <MaxFrames> so I can perhaps stop now, and resume monday
[17:15] <MaxFrames> it should begin from where it left off
[17:15] <lachm> Is there a straight forward way of listing all the programs installed with apt that are not depended on by any other apt installed programs
[17:15] <lachm> Thanks in advance
[17:16] <natus> How to disable wireless on startup ? I use mainly ethernet
[17:16] <theadmin> natus: Ubuntu will usually prefer Ethernet. If it's not plugged in, then it will move over to a wireless network.
[17:17] <ra1stl1n> /nick ra1stl1n
[17:17] <natus> theadmin: I know but wireless still activated (I must everytime disable it manualy)
[17:18] <natus> theadmin: I live in a campus they are not wifi only ethernet connection
[17:18] <alkisg> natus: google for something like that:  dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply \    --dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager \    org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set string:org.freedesktop.NetworkManager \     string:WirelessEnabled variant:boolean:$bool_state
[17:18] <alkisg> Sorry no time to guide you exactly
[17:20] <MaxFrames> "If you use the logfile feature of ddrescue, the data is rescued very efficiently, (only the needed blocks are read). Also you can interrupt the rescue at any time and resume it later at the same point. "
[17:20] <undecim> In a bash script, how do I test if a command fails?
[17:20] <MaxFrames> that is from the manual
[17:20] <MaxFrames> I should be ok then right?
[17:20] <alkisg> undecim: if command; then echo ok; else echo not; fi
[17:21] <alkisg> Or, use $?
[17:21] <undecim> alkisg, I was hoping there was an "if not" to simplify when you only need code for false
[17:22] <alkisg> undecim: ls asdf || echo "not exists"
[17:22] <alkisg> or, if ! command; then...
[17:22] <undecim> its several lines
[17:22] <alkisg> if ! command then
[17:22] <undecim> okay, that's what I was looking for
[17:22] <alkisg> if ! ls asdf; then
[17:22] <alkisg> line 1
[17:22] <alkisg> line 2...
[17:23] <undecim> It just seemed weird to have an empty "then" section
[17:23] <Pici> undecim: fyi, #bash exists and is very helpful
[17:23] <EchoNight> hi
[17:24] <EchoNight> my disk space is full and it won't start kubuntu. what to do?
[17:24] <erichf> Hello, I can't seem to get KDE fully UNinstalled
[17:24] <EchoNight> it's an asus chromebox with 8/8gb partitions
[17:24] <erichf> HAs anyone had experience with this?
[17:24] <undecim> Pici, Yeah, but i was already in this channel
[17:25] <undecim> typing the join command is so much work...
[17:25] <Pici> undecim: well, for next time, they are very knowledable there.
[17:25] <undecim> I figured it was a pretty introductory question, too. I'll head over there for my bash needs from now
[17:25] <natus> alkisg: I don't find anything about it did you "make" it yourself? Must I do some bash script to run it everytime
[17:26] <alkisg> natus: yes I made it myself a couple of years ago and I put it in my startup programs so it runs automatically
[17:27] <natus> alkisg: oh very clever run it like a startup program I'll test it in vm thank you
[17:27] <alkisg> natus: your VM has a wifi interface?
[17:27] <alkisg> Also, it's part of a program, it won't work without changing a variable there
[17:27] <alkisg> That's why I proposed that you googled it instead...
[17:28] <natus> alkisg: can you just send me to a man page or something i'll try to do it myself
[17:29] <alkisg> natus: it's a dbus interface, I don't think it's in a man page
[17:29] <alkisg> It's an api of network manager
[17:30] <natus> alkisg: complicated stuff for me :( I didn't know that it will be so "complicated"
[17:31]  * alkisg thought you'd find some blog with that command explaining the details...
[17:31] <undecim> There's no man page, but it should still be documented
[17:36] <Higshbh> Can someone help me condigure tor to access on my uni network?
[17:38] <SchrodingersScat> Higshbh: have you heard about bridges?  they were planned to help people in freedom hating areas.
[17:38] <hio__> hi, how do i get qtcreator 3.3.0 via apt-get?
[17:39] <Higshbh> How do I get a bridge?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Higshbh: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Higshbh: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Tor
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> hio__: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> hio__: its a single line, so no need to pastebin
[17:43] <FBI> ActionParsnip: lsb_release do exist
[17:43] <FBI> more reliable than /etc/issue
[17:44] <sfdebug> alkisg, worked with unity --replace, i was able to go to the session again, but the windows was buuged, but i could save everything and do a logout... :)
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> FBI: how do you get "more reliable" ?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> FBI: /etc/issue is a GNU standard file, so will work on MAc too.
[17:45] <FBI> ActionParsnip: many people customize /etc/issue
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> FBI: yes, to the distribution they are using
[17:45] <FBI> lsb_release actually works on osX too btw
[17:46] <FBI> (asuming a fairly up to date version)
[17:46] <FBI> ActionParsnip: my /etc/issue doesn't say anything about which distro the machine runs btw
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> FBI: the output of either can be changed, its software
[17:47] <alkisg> sfdebug: nice, although it's weird that killing screensaver didn't kill it
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> FBI: so "more reliable" doesnt apply here at all
[17:47] <FBI> nor do any of the work machines
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> hio__: waiting on that output dude....
[17:47] <Mobix> hey guys my monitor is CRT and when i run firefox my screen goes meshy what should i do?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Mobix: is it only firefox that causes it?
[17:49] <hio__> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[17:49] <Mobix> usually yes
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> hio__: I cannot find a PPA with the newer version. There is an offline installer I have found but its not a deb http://www.qt.io/download-open-source/#
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Mobix: have you tried other browsers to test?
[17:50] <hio__> yeah i know, but i cant run that installer silently
[17:50] <jhutchins> Mobix: You could try setting your screen to a lower resolution and see if that works better.
[17:51] <bomb4h> Anonymous #opCharlieHebdo targets: http://pastebin.com/RUAraVSX
[17:51] <bomb4h> Anonymous #opCharlieHebdo targets: http://pastebin.com/RUAraVSX
[17:52] <Guest58282> I want to figure out why I can't burn a video DVD with K3b, brasero, devede, or dvd styler.  I found a command line thing called "hdparm" for my SATA DVD burner ... could someone walk me through how to use that?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest58282: devede will make an ISO which you can then open in any burner. I like xfburn personally
[17:53] <SchrodingersScat> I don't think hdparm does what you think it does?
[17:53] <Guest58282> ActionParsnip: I'd be willing to try, but what concerns me is that I want to be sure that it isn't a hardware problem before I try something.  The video files are in FLV format (off of Youtube)
[17:54] <Yakisoba-> hi...
[17:54] <Guest58282> SchrodingersScat: What do you think hdparm does and what do you think I want to do with it?
[17:54] <SchrodingersScat> Guest58282: I could ask you the same.
[17:55] <Yakisoba-> Is it possible to make the laptop with the cover closed worked some time, and then turn off? Explain: I run the program, close the cover, notebook works, and after 30 minutes the laptop itself shuts down?
[17:55] <Guest58282> SchrodingersScat: I typed "man -k SATA" and the only thing that came backwas this.  My idea is to look at the SATA DVD burner to see if there is a hardware problem.
[17:55] <Mobix> jhutchins,  how can i do it?
[17:55] <SchrodingersScat> Guest58282: normally I see it being used for hdd functions, like quick erase, etc.  If you're having trouble either authoring a dvd or burning an ISO, then those seem like different issues.
[17:55] <Guest58282> SchrodingersScat: Before I do anything else
[17:55] <Mobix> i didnt have no Xorg.conf
[17:56] <Yakisoba-> my question was about Ubuntu
[17:56] <Guest67871> just done system update and now xubuntu wont open my windows drives...any ideas how i get round to mount them
[17:56] <Guest58282> SchrodingersScat: ActionParsnip: Is FLV from youtube normally the correct video format (as opposed to 3gp or mp4)?
[17:57] <SchrodingersScat> Guest58282: not for dvd, should use mpeg, but that's why you either convert yourself or use something like devede to convert it and package it up in the vob files, etc.
[17:57] <undecim> Guest67871, Have you rebooted since the update?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest58282: not sure, as long as devede doesn't moan then I assume its fine
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Guest58282, flv files are flash player files as on youtube
[17:59] <Guest67871> undecim,  yes but have this message displayed on screen evrytime i click to access it  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9762817/
[17:59] <Guest58282> SchrodingersScat: ActionParsnip: I'm going to look into xfburn and get back ... also look into MP4 (I don't see mpeg as format offered) ... and eat dinner ... see ya soon?
[17:59] <undecim> Guest67871, Did you follow the instructions in the error?
[18:00] <Guest67871> undecim,  im a newbie, dont even understand what it says
[18:00] <undecim> Guest67871, Basically, when you closed Windows, it didn't shut down, but hibernated
[18:00] <undecim> Guest67871, So now the Windows partition is "still being used" even though the Windows OS is away
[18:01] <Guest67871> undecim,  hows that possible, it wasnt like this before update
[18:01] <undecim> Guest67871, You can either use the terminal to mount it "read-only" so that you can't change any files (i can help with that), or you can start Windows again and shut down windows properly
[18:01] <Guest67871> undecim,  what should i do then ?
[18:01] <undecim> Guest67871, You haven't used windows lately?
[18:02] <undecim> Guest67871, i.e. since you were last able to open the drive?
[18:02] <Guest67871> undecim,  i did, its the same pc /dual boot, so i dont understand how is this possible since i have now log in xubuntu
[18:02] <undecim> Guest67871, I would definitely try the Windows shutdown before continuing.
[18:03] <Guest67871> undecim,  so how should i shut it down ? i dont understand
[18:03] <undecim> Guest67871, it's possible that the error is not correct in what the problem is. If
[18:03] <undecim> Guest67871, What version of windows?
[18:03] <Guest67871> windows 8.1
[18:04] <squinty> Guest67871:  you may have caused an improper shutdown on the Windows side of things.  boot into windows and shutdown properly.  you can also run chkdsk on the windows side to make sure your file system is ok
[18:04] <undecim> Guest67871, Have you disable Fast startup? That might have something to do with the drive state
[18:04] <Guest67871> undecim,  8.1 pro media centre
[18:04] <undecim> Guest67871, I don't think you can even boot Xubuntu with fast startup enabled, but it won't hurt to check.
[18:04] <undecim> let me find a link to the info for that
[18:04] <Guest67871> is that in BIOS ?
[18:04] <undecim> Guest67871, Its a Windows option
[18:05] <krishanchaitanya> i need a nginx webserver to proxy two localhost applications on a single bootstrap template. can anyone please tell me how to do that?
[18:05] <squinty> Guest67871:  please address the person you are responding to with their nick
[18:05] <undecim> Guest67871, When in windows, follow the instructions here to ensure that Fast Startup is disabled: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[18:05] <undecim> squinty, the recipient knows who he is
[18:06] <bubbasaures> !who
[18:06] <undecim> Guest67871, Then, make sure you click the "Shut Down" option (not neccesarily the power icon)
[18:06] <Guest67871> squinty, undecim  is there a command in trminal to check current state of windows..e.ii hibernating/in use,etc..??
[18:07] <undecim> Guest67871, I'm sure there is some way to do it... But the NTFS driver says the drive is in a bad state, and you shouldn't trust Linux to fix that
[18:08] <Guest67871> undecim,  ok ill check link, also, you mention to run check disk for eror, is that in windows or do i run this command from terminal ?
[18:08] <bubbasaures> !uefi | Guest67871 this is the official wiki
[18:08] <bubbasaures> read that first
[18:09] <Guest67871> bubbasaures,  what ?
[18:09] <undecim> Guest67871, any checkdisk operations for NTFS disks should be run from windows
[18:09] <Zaitzev> Does anyone here happen to have an ASUS laptop, of newer date?
[18:09] <bubbasaures> Guest67871, That linik is the official ubuntu wiki on this exact sistuation.
[18:09] <Zaitzev> I'm wondering what the F-key for quick boot menu is (I guess F9 but might be wrong)
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> undecim: testdisk can test ntfs partiotions also
[18:09] <undecim> Guest67871, NTFS is a Windows thing. So by definition, Windows does it right
[18:09] <undecim> lotuspsychje, What kind of information does it give?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | undecim
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Zaitzev: how is that Ubuntu related?
[18:10] <undecim> lotuspsychje, I can google testdisk. You just seemed to have the information in context...
[18:10] <Zaitzev> It's going to have Ubuntu installed on it from a USB drive
[18:10] <squinty> Guest67871:  chkdsk    ask in Windows related channel.
[18:10] <Guest67871> bubbasaures, undecim , ubottu  ok thx gents, guess i g a bit of reading to start weekend
[18:10] <undecim> ActionParsnip, You need to know it to boot Ubuntu. A lot of Ubuntuers have needed to know the info...
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Zaitzev: then you dont want quick boot, you want the boot menu to choose the boot device, so you can select usb...no?
[18:11] <Zaitzev> Yes
[18:11] <undecim> Zaitzev, You can Google your computer model to find out
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Zaitzev: that's not "quick boot"
[18:11] <Zaitzev> I tried, no dice
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Zaitzev: F11 or F12 is usual
[18:13] <Zaitzev> thank you :)
[18:14] <SrPx> Hello, could anyone recommend a premium notebook / ultrabook that gives the same feeling as a macbook, except for ubuntu? I tried installing ubuntu on my mac and it was terrible. GPU on 100% of the time, overheating, it doesn't know how to deal with closing the lid (system error instead of sleep), etc etc. :(
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> SrPx: this is ubuntu support, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:15] <SrPx> my bad, thank you :) ActionParsnip
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> SrPx: or do you want to troubleshoot your curret system?
[18:15] <Encrypt> Hello there o/
[18:15] <SrPx> ActionParsnip: not now, thanks! :)
[18:15] <Encrypt> Any Tox user on Ubuntu here?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> SrPx: nw :)
[18:16] <Encrypt> I'm joining the dev team of Tox
[18:16] <Encrypt> And I'll implement (if I succeed) the Ubuntu integration with Unity
[18:16] <Encrypt> I'd like to know what you'd prefer
[18:16] <egregius> hi
[18:17] <egregius> i prefer lil boys
[18:17]  * squinty sighs
[18:17] <squinty> both of you take it elsewhere
[18:17] <egregius> i got this sweet fleshlight
[18:17] <squinty> !ops
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> !ops egregius
[18:17] <egregius> plugs in usb
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> !ops | egregius
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> thanks
[18:21] <TingelTangelTom> Hello all, i have a question to start to programs with one click, who can Help me?
[18:21] <TingelTangelTom> Sry i mean two programs
[18:22] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, Sounds simple. You using normal Ubuntu? (not Xubuntu, Lubuntu)
[18:22] <TingelTangelTom> Yepp 14.10 LTS
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> TingelTangelTom: 14.10 is not LTS
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> TingelTangelTom: 14.10 is only supported til July 2015
[18:23] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, So what you need to do is create a custom launcher script
[18:24] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, the first answer on this page explains that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78730/how-do-i-add-a-custom-launcher
[18:24] <TingelTangelTom> right undecim
[18:24] <TingelTangelTom> i look at the link, thx dude
[18:24] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, For the exec line, you need something like Exec=sh -c 'command1 & ; command 2 &'
[18:25] <undecim> This will run both commands (apps) simultaenously
[18:26] <undecim> You could also just write a shell script and put it on your desktop. It's quicker, but uglier (no custom icon, no option to add to unity menu)
[18:26] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim hui many input for me noob...
[18:26] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, what?
[18:28] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim I will start an ADS-B decoder and than the WebServer, now i start two terminal windows and write the commands
[18:28] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim i think they give an "easier" method
[18:29] <TingelTangelTom> Sry for my terrible english
[18:29] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, It's okay
[18:29] <jhutchins> !de
[18:30] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, Do you need the terminal windows to remain after the applications are started?
[18:30] <PraiseTorvalds> stop segregation between user and kernelspace! software should be able to decide where it wants to run on its own!
[18:30] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim no, oppiste direction... terminal starts the programm
[18:30] <undecim> PraiseTorvalds, But what about the owners of the kernelspace! what about THEIR rights?
[18:31] <bubbasaures> PraiseTorvalds, just free helpers here bro not really a ubuntu support issue.
[18:31] <bubbasaures> we are just the users of the software
[18:32] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, That is what happens currently?
[18:32] <Guest62641> hello ubuntu community. is anyone using ubuntu studio?
[18:32] <bubbasaures> Guest62641, There are on their chanel
[18:32] <Guest62641> how do I get to their channel?
[18:33] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim, i need a noob friendly manual to write a shell or what ever
[18:33] <bubbasaures> Guest62641, same OS as here so you have full support here #ubuntustudio I think
[18:33] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, You want is this?: One click will open 2 terminal windows, each already running the commands?
[18:34] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, Or one click will launch the commands, without using terminal windows?
[18:35] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim Sry No, i will take one click and then start up the decoder and than the webserver
[18:35] <undecim> TingelTangelTom, Will the terminal windows be visible or not visible?
[18:35] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim, yeah the last message is it
[18:35] <squinty> Guest62641:  #ubuntu-studio
[18:36] <bubbasaures> mine was correct
[18:36] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim, that is not important
[18:36] <bubbasaures> both get there however ;)
[18:36] <squinty> bubbasaures:  yep :)
[18:36] <TingelTangelTom> @undecim Can we talk in a dialog?
[18:43] <TvL2386> hi guys, I just upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 but noticed I have kernel 3.13 and not 3.16. Should I do something to get it?
[18:44] <TvL2386> is it as easy as "apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-29-generic"?
[18:44] <compdoc> nothign but apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:44] <bubbasaures> TvL2386, Should of happened in the upgrade.
[18:44] <TvL2386> already tried that compdoc, but it doesn't find anything to update
[18:45] <TvL2386> already done "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:45] <bubbasaures> TvL2386, What do you see if you run sudo update-grub
[18:45] <TvL2386> bubbasaures, it only finds: Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-5-generic
[18:45] <TvL2386> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-5-generic
[18:45] <compdoc> TvL2386, you dont think you have the kernel youre supposed to?
[18:46] <TvL2386> compdoc, I thought 14.04 had 3.13 and thought I would get 3.16 when upgrading to 14.10
[18:46] <bubbasaures> TvL2386, your correct as you should have a 3.16,
[18:46] <TvL2386> I'm mainly upgrading because some btrfs filesystem full errors that have been haunting are supposed to be solved in 3.14
[18:47] <TvL2386> so: if I would install linux-image-3.16.0-29-generic can I expect to be on the correct train afterwards?
[18:47] <YamakasY> in which package is get ?
[18:48] <bubbasaures> YamakasY, "get"? Context?
[18:48] <YamakasY> bubbasaures, get, url
[18:48] <YamakasY> no whet
[18:48] <YamakasY> wget
[18:48] <bekks> "get, url" - which contect?
[18:48] <bubbasaures> YamakasY, never seen it here is all.
[18:48] <bekks> *context
[18:49] <TvL2386> I did have GET at some point in ubuntu
[18:49] <Guest66688> undecim,  it work ... switch off the fast log in on windows 8 and drives now mount fine in xubuntu
[18:49] <YamakasY> TvL2386, which I neede
[18:49] <TvL2386> I have YamakasY
[18:49] <bekks> HTTP GET is not a commandline tool.
[18:49] <YamakasY> it should be possible
[18:49] <bekks> It isnt.
[18:49] <TvL2386> libwww-perl: /usr/bin/GET
[18:49] <undecim> Guest66688, Good to hear. Thanks for reporting back
[18:49] <bekks> !file /usr/bin/GET
[18:50] <TvL2386> gonna install kernel 3.16
[18:50] <bekks> According to ubottu, /usr/bin/GET is in no known package
[18:50] <Guest66688>  thanks for help gents...much appreciated
[18:51] <TvL2386> bekks, my apt-file search /usr/bin/GET on freshly update 14.10 begs to differ
[18:51] <compdoc> The Ubuntu 14.10 release delivers a v3.16 based kernel. This brings a significant number of bug fixes and new hardware support including expanded architecture support for Power 8 and arm64 platforms.
[18:51] <TvL2386> yeah compdoc: I do "apt-get install linux-image-generic" and output is: "The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-3.16.0-29-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-29-generic thermald"
[18:51] <bekks> TvL2386: So which package provides /usr/bin/GET ?
 libwww-perl: /usr/bin/GET @bekks
[18:52] <compdoc> TvL2386, when you boot, if you hit a key when it asks, you can select the kernel to boot. ever try that?
[18:52] <Dominique> Hmpf, wondering why Ubuntu 14.04 desktop decides to mess up the partition table upon install with encrypting the disk..
[18:53] <Dominique> Is this a known issue?
[18:53] <TvL2386> compdoc, I did update-grub as bubbasaures asked to show the available kernels and I only had 3.13....
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> bekks: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/libwww-perl/filelist
[18:53] <bubbasaures> Dominique, table damage no
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> YamakasY: why not use wget?
[18:53] <compdoc> TvL2386, very strange
[18:53] <undecim> How can I execute a shell script on the desktop in 14.04?
[18:54] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Yeah, just searched for it, too.
[18:54] <macobo_> Stupid question - what's might cause for this: after running a python script, bash doesn't echo my input anymore. Hitting enter stacks my prompt lines.
[18:54] <macobo_> To reset, I need to run the `reset` command.
[18:54] <Dominique> bubbasaures: Well it created a GPT partition table with boot flag on a fat32?! partition.
[18:54] <macobo_> But I'm curious to why my program is causing that
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> undecim: gnome-terminal --command="some commands here"
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> macobo_: try:    source ~/.bashrc
[18:55] <undecim> ActionParsnip, No, I mean there is launch.sh on ~/Desktop, and I want to launch it withotu a terminal
[18:55] <bubbasaures> Dominique, sounds like a uefi bios and a uefi boot.
[18:55] <undecim> ActionParsnip, It just opens gedit. Context menu gives no option to execute (permissions are good)
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> undecim: so, in the background?
[18:55] <undecim> Correct
[18:56] <macobo_> ActionParsnip: I know how to get rid of the error once it appears, but I'm curious as to why it's happening.
[18:56] <bubbasaures> Dominique, You know that the partitions from the outside look like unallocated? Details are really key here for the channel. ;)
[18:56] <hmg> hello, Im trying to run some really old 32-bit software. does anyone know whats the oldest version of 32-bit ubuntu that works on virtualbox? I tried installing Warty (4.10) but it couldnt find any physical hard disks to partition
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> macobo_: sounds like its playing with variables in $env
[18:57] <Guest66688> undecim, just 1 more question, trying to install xarawebstyle using wine, however get message saying that i require internet explorer version 5 or above, any ideas how to get round this problem
[18:58] <TvL2386> compdoc, Linux laptole 3.16.0-29-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 15 22:27:29 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:58] <bubbasaures> Dominique, From the live disc/usb show the channel sudo parted -l in a pastebin it will give more detail, I have to take off to do some work. ;)
[18:58] <Dominique> bubbasaures: the fat32 is allocated and so are the others; there is a 244MiB ext2 partition which I recon is the actual boot partition, and yes the machine is likely in uefi as it's a business laptop which normally comes with Windows
[18:58] <undecim> Guest66688, No clue
[18:58] <undecim> Guest66688, Try google
[18:58] <Guest66688> undecim, ok thx
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> undecim: does it need to run at startup each time?
[18:59] <macobo_> ActionParsnip: Interesting theory, what causes you to think that? If I remove the explicit environment munging from the script, after running it it still doesn't echo my keypresses.
[18:59] <Dominique> I'm not really asking for help on how to fix it, just wondering if it's a bug that it creates a partition with fat32, seems like one to me.
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> undecim: you could add it to /etc/rc.local   use su to run it as your user and you may need a "sleep" command to add a pause if the command requires the X server to be running
[19:00] <undecim> ActionParsnip, no, I'm helping TingelTangelTom create a launcher. Created a shell script, and thought i could execute it with right-click or double-click like in previous versions of Ubuntu.
[19:00] <undecim> But there is no option at all
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> macobo_: if:  source ~/.bashrc" resolves it, then the default settings from the file are being clobbered by the script
[19:00] <SuperLag> I have a ThinkPad W530 with Nvidia & Intel GPUs in it. I've got Optimus *DISABLED* and I have the graphics card set to Discrete. That's supposed to load only the Nvidia card, but it's not working. Now I'm only getting a blinking cursor on boot
[19:01] <BluesKaj> !nvidia-prime
[19:01] <apb1963> I had to reboot this morning because kwin was hogging the cpu, load was over 12... and when it came back up the resolution was all wrong.  I can't figure out how to change the resolution.   ubuntu 14.04 with kde.
[19:01] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, think nvidia-prime is the driver you need for such a setup
[19:06] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: when I installed nvidia-331, nvidia-prime was one of the packages that got installe
[19:06] <SuperLag> installed, that is
[19:06] <BluesKaj> yes, for optimus setups
[19:06] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: I'm confused.
[19:07] <k1l> iirc is nvidia-prime a depency for the nvidia driver at all.
[19:08] <BluesKaj> SuperLag,  afaik  there's no need to disable the lower level motherboard gpu with the nvidia-prime on linux
[19:09] <z0ran> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop, the only problem is i dont have net only for my browser....what did i do wrong
[19:09] <pentagrass> I have a process running that I would like to give more CPU and more resources.. how would I do this? nice? renice? I'm not too familiar with the two
[19:11] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: well, if I leave it on Nvidia Optimus and let it do the switching, i have no blank screen with a blinking cursor. However, when I plug my laptop into its docking station, where the two external displays are connected, it should switch to Nvidia.
[19:11] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: and let me activate the two external displays... but that's hot happening
[19:12] <mitt> z0ran: you had net during the install?
[19:12] <z0ran> sure
[19:12] <z0ran> i can ping and update
[19:13] <mitt> z0ran: error messages?
[19:13] <TheNet> nah I wasn't there
[19:13] <z0ran> i cant find none...only the browser is saying that is page not available
[19:14] <z0ran> i can ping google
[19:14] <z0ran> i can install packages also
[19:14] <z0ran> weird
[19:14] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, ok, a docking stn setup is different and beyond my experience
[19:14] <Pgx13> hi
[19:15] <mitt> z0ran: try another browser and/or check  Firefox preferences
[19:15] <Pgx13> how can i make a clean reinstallation of unity on 14.04 lts?
[19:15] <z0ran> i did try chrome, same thing
[19:15] <mitt> Pgx13: install synaptic, click reinstall on unity-desktop
[19:16] <Pgx13> thanks
[19:16] <mitt> z0ran: try add addtional DNS server with <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:16] <mitt> in nm applet
[19:16] <Pgx13> mitt, can i do it from gnome?
[19:17] <z0ran> mitt ff was using proxy by default...taht was problem....thank you anyway :)
[19:17] <mitt> Pgx13: of course, it would be even better, in terms of if you don't like the way Unity works, you can purge it, and then install, would be cleaner
[19:18] <mitt> z0ran: now works?
[19:18] <Nedal> Hey guys, I can t read audios on firefox .. I have to install extra media plugins but it doesn t work. they say toterm-plugin-viewer requires to install plugins to play media files when I go install, a window comes out with the following content ( Package depencies cannot be resolved) ... Anyone can help ??
[19:19] <Pgx13> mitt, I unistalled by apt-get autoremove --purge unity and i''m in gnome now, shall i just reinstall unity?
[19:19] <z0ran> mitt, now is great :)
[19:19] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: oh. I thought you knew *everything* about *EVERYTHING* :)
[19:20] <mitt> Pgx13: you wanna do apt-get purge unity-desktop, apt-get autoremove, and then reinstall it
[19:20] <mitt> z0ran: cheers
[19:20] <Pgx13> thank you
[19:20] <mitt> welcome
[19:20] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, sorry to give that impression, definitely not meant that way :)
[19:21] <Nedal> can anyone help ... please
[19:22] <mitt> Nedal: don't write things like this in IRC, just ask:)
[19:22] <Nedal> mitt I asked but no one answers
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | Nedal
[19:23] <mitt> Nedal: sorry, didn't see; install synaptic,then it will find broken dependencies
[19:23] <mitt> or in terminal
[19:23] <bekks> Nedal: So whats the content of that window popping up, regarding the missing dependencies?
[19:24] <nokiomanz> Hi all, My machine memory is getting lower as day go by after a few search i found out that the command slabtop show that dentry is getting bigger and bigger. Is there a way to find out what is filling the dentry?
[19:25] <Nedal> bekks it says  Package depencies connot be resolved ( This error could  could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable)
[19:25] <bekks> nokiomanz: Just look at the VSZ and RSS columns of "ps aux", e.g.
[19:26] <bekks> Nedal: nothing more?
[19:26] <mitt> Nedal: this means you do not have some repositories
[19:26] <Nedal> bekks Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[19:26] <Nedal> mitt What should I do ?
[19:27] <avid_fan> Nedal: Looks like Totem has a support IRC channel of its own, irc://irc.gimp.org/#totem. You might also try there.
[19:28] <mitt> Nedal: first try install these packages via terminal, it will say what is missing, then go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/, find missing ones and add repositories
[19:28] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: no, I know better. Just being silly. :)
[19:29] <Nedal> mitt I will try and see if it works
[19:30] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, yeah, a little humour is good when try to solve problems :)
[19:30] <nokiomanz> bekks: I did but nothing out of the ordinary which is what got me confused
[19:30] <BluesKaj> trying
[19:31] <avid_fan> Nedal: What version of Ubuntu, Firefox, and the Totem plugin are you using? Is it possible to get the URL with the audio you're trying to play?
[19:33] <nokiomanz> bekks: for information the dentry says it is 11G in size
[19:35] <Nedal> avid_fam Ububtu LTS 14.04  Firefox 35.0 .. and I dont know what Totem plugin means
[19:39] <bishopstix> Urgent help needed, I have downloaded a package from nooblabs apps, it did not fully install, now I can remove it nor reinstall it, and it has paralyzed my apt-get, can't update or upgrade or do anything. Also my boot space is full! I have tried everything clean, autoclean, synaptic manager, etc
[19:39] <bekks> nokiomanz: That value is totally meaningless without seeing ps and free -m :)
[19:40] <mitt> bishopstix: you can locate installed parts of the package with catfish or like it, and delete them manually
[19:41] <BluesKaj> bishopstix, sudo dpkg -r nameofpackage , then try to reinstall if you're brave :)
[19:41] <TheVerge> Hey folks
[19:42] <TheVerge> I have a playback issue for media files
[19:42] <bishopstix> BluesKaj: I tried that! no way I reinstall!
[19:42] <bishopstix> mitt: haven't tried catfish will try now thanks
[19:42] <TheVerge> I recently got a radeon 5450 to go inside my n40L to turn it into a htpc
[19:43] <TheVerge> When I try to play the video files, sometimes they play choppy, and othertimes they play fine but the audio is out of sync
[19:43] <TheVerge> any thoughts
[19:43] <TheVerge> I'm running ubuntu 14.04
[19:43] <TheVerge> desktop
[19:43] <mitt> bishopstix: or force the removing of your package
[19:44] <bishopstix> mitt: the problem is that ubuntu is not recognizing that the package is installed
[19:44] <bishopstix> mitt: so can't purge, can't remove can't use dpkg etc
[19:45] <apb1963>  I had to reboot this morning because kwin was hogging the cpu, load was over 12... and when it came back up the resolution was all wrong.  I can't figure out how to change the resolution.   ubuntu 14.04 with kde.
[19:46] <avid_fan> Nedal: It's definitely old, so I'm not sure how relavent it is, but Totem is/was a media player for Ubuntu. It has/had a plugin for Firefox. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins#Totem_Plugin
[19:46] <mitt> bishopstix: then locate this package in your system, parts with catfish
[19:48] <avid_fan> Nedal: There might be a different plugin for Firefox that would allow you to play the content from the website.
[19:48] <xangua> avid_fan: totem is the default gnome player, what website¿
[19:50] <avid_fan> xangua: Don't have that info.
[19:52] <undecim> Is there an app that will allow you to write a shell script and create a launcher for it? Because if not, I will create it
[19:53] <TheVerge> Anyone :-D
[19:53] <semitones> Hey all -- i have dropbox in ubuntu's startup programs, but it never starts unless I run it manually. Can someone help me troubleshoot this so it will start automatically?
[19:53] <bishopstix> mitt: installed catfish from .tar.gz (as I can't use apt-get) after running it, it can't find my package..
[19:54] <bubbasaures> semitones, This your command dropbox start -i
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Nedal, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:54] <Jordan_U> semitones: How did you configured "ubuntu's startup programs"?
[19:55] <semitones> Jordan_U, the startup programs application from unity's search. and bubbasaures, it is ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
[19:55] <mitt> bishopstix: don't forget to change the folders you checking, from $USER to File system
[19:55] <avid_fan> TheVerge: What are you using for playback?
[19:56] <TheVerge> SMPlayer at the moment
[19:56] <TheVerge> avid_fan
[19:56] <OerHeks>  undecim not yet AFAIK, maybe this page is any help creating such app https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:56] <bishopstix> mitt: yes just did that and so if I manually delete this it will be good?
[19:56] <mitt> bishopstix: yes, this will work fine
[19:57] <semitones> Jordan_U, are you familiar with the startup programs application?
[19:57] <semitones> "Startup Applications"
[19:57] <bubbasaures> semitones, that was from dropboxes load to the starup applications
[19:57] <squinty> semitones:  if you didn't use the dropbox installer from the dropbox site, suggest you try that.  after initial install, click on dropbox in menu, and the rest of the install should proceed.  dropbox will automatically set your system up to start dropbox upon booting
[19:57] <bubbasaures> their load
[19:57] <undecim> I justed helped someone create one and the process was longer and more error-prone than previous Ubuntu versions. Used to be I could just write a shell script, chmod a+x, then double-click it. The click-to-launch doesn't work anymore
[19:57] <semitones> squidly, I did use it though, but it didn't automatically start up
[19:57] <avid_fan> TheVerge: I've not used SMPlayer, but have you tried to use MPLayer straight from command-line?
[19:57] <undecim> It's a regression, in my book.
[19:57] <Nedal> BlueKaj what s that ?
[19:58] <TheVerge> avid_fan, no i havent
[19:58] <semitones> bubbasaures, I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand
[19:58] <TheVerge> avid_fan, although I believe SMPlayer is an MPlayer front end
[19:58] <NinjaCowboy> My Windows parition is the first partiton on my hard disk, and my Ubuntu partition is the second. Is there a way to shrink a partition from the beginning of it? By that, I mean shrinking the Ubuntu partition from the beginning to make more room for the Windows partition.
[19:58] <xangua> bishopstix: why you can't use apt? and if you install from soruce it won't appear in your package manager of course
[19:58] <semitones> squinty, when I installed it, the main installer didn't point to the latest version, so I found the latest version and installed that using whatever instructions it had
[19:59] <avid_fan> TheVerge: Right, if you try to play from the terminal, you might get some output from MPlayer as to why the issue(s).
[19:59] <TheVerge> avid_fan, which driver should I use, the open source one or the proprietary one?
[19:59] <bubbasaures> semitones, close dropbox and run that command in the terminal. Dropbox on install puts the startup application together for you.
[19:59] <avid_fan> TheVerge: Also, I'd suggest trying VLC for playback.
[19:59] <avid_fan> TheVerge: I can't speak to the AMD driver. Don't have one.
[19:59] <squinty> semitones:  please reread what I typed.  I just installed it on another box using that exact method last night without any problems
[20:00] <mitt> TheVerge: my favourite one is Parole media player, never had problems with it
[20:00] <squinty> NinjaCowboy:  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[20:00] <semitones> bubbasaures, I don't think I have "dropbox" on a command on my system
[20:00] <semitones> ok listen everybody
[20:00] <bubbasaures> semitones, are you going to try?
[20:00] <semitones> i have a simple problem
[20:01] <semitones> bubbasaures, yeah "dropbox is not installed"
[20:01] <semitones> I have a simple problem that a command I want to run at startup is not running
[20:02] <mitt> semitones: first to know if startup programme is running or not you need to reboot
[20:02] <bubbasaures> semitones, YOU say it can be started than it is not installed, that makes no sense.
[20:03] <jrg> hm. i was discussing this earlier
[20:03] <semitones> bubbasaures, it's installed in my local directory, not systemwide
[20:03] <jrg> what is the best thign to use in order to sync an iphone/pod?
[20:03] <jrg> using ubuntu
[20:03] <semitones> mitt, It's been in startup applications for months now and I have to start it manually each time I reboot
[20:03] <mitt> jrg: from the cloud?
[20:03] <jrg> no
[20:03] <jrg> otherwise i'd just use plex :/
[20:03] <NinjaCowboy> squinty: Thanks. Looks like a nice program.
[20:04] <wonderworld> semitones: try to use the full path to the program in the properties for the launcher in startup applications
[20:04] <jrg> mitt: plex doesn't agree well when connected to my car via usb or bt
[20:04] <jrg> so i guess i have to actually use the iphone music player
[20:04] <squinty> NinjaCowboy:  yw.   you can installe
[20:04] <semitones> wonderworld, thanks, I'll try that and see if it works
[20:04] <squinty> oops
[20:04] <mitt> semitones: did you check out that application you've been advised? Called "Startup" or like that? type in the Dash to open
[20:04] <jrg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[20:04] <jrg> ah ok.. seems lkethat has some information for it
[20:05] <Ben_g> Hi
[20:05] <jrg> seems like banshee might be the best bet
[20:05] <jrg> i should try it out
[20:05] <squinty> NinjaCowboy:  gparted is available in the repo's but it is also available on the livedvd (ubuntu iso) and the recommended method is to use that to boot from
[20:05] <TheVerge> avid_fan, mplayer  says my system is too slow to play the file lol
[20:06] <avid_fan> TheVerge: lol. Awesome.
[20:06] <mitt> jrg: if you want to find the best bet; you got a big choice
[20:06] <bubbasaures> Ben_g, welcome
[20:06] <Ben_g> I've connected a PS3 controller to my laptop, but for compatibility reasons with games, I need to emulate it as an xbox controller
[20:06] <avid_fan> TheVerge: Well there's your problem.
[20:06] <Ben_g> I've tried sudo xboxdrv --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad options, but that gives me an error
[20:06] <jrg> mitt: ?
[20:07] <jrg> mitt: what is the big choice? heh... i just wnt to sync my iphone music library with ubuntu
[20:07] <jrg> instead of using itunes
[20:07] <Ben_g> This is the error it gives me: [ERROR] spawn_exe(): options: exec failed: No such file or directory
[20:07] <jrg> looks like the best choice on that ubuntu help page is banshee
[20:07] <jrg> so i'll try that out.. i can live without syncing playlists
[20:07] <Ben_g> Is there a way to get it to work?
[20:07] <mitt> jrg: rhythmbox also has some syncing features
[20:07] <bishopstix> mitt: man it's just stuck.. i deleted all files and it still tells me that the package needs to be reinstalled when i try to install my other packages
[20:09] <mitt> bishopstix: compile that noobslab package from the source, if it's Ambiance or whatever colour suite, they provide the source tarballs on their website
[20:09] <avid_fan> bishopstix: Just curious, what's the name of the package?
[20:09] <Ben_g> Or is there maybe an other way to emulate a PS3 controller as xbox controller?
[20:10] <TheVerge> avid_fan, :-(
[20:10] <maduko> Hi all, is there any way to boot into recovery mode when a computer has full disk encryption?
[20:10] <jrg> let me try out banshee
[20:10] <semitones> mitt, I've been using that from the getgo :)
[20:10] <jrg> worst i'll do is screw up my iphone lol
[20:10] <semitones> it's called startup applications
[20:10] <bishopstix> mitt: i just tried to reinstall the package i think it worked but now I got a new error.. arghh
[20:10] <Aytac> http://forum.ircalem.net
[20:10] <bishopstix> avid_fan: package is xix-media-player
[20:11] <bubbasaures> maduko, You might address the issue why you want recovery.
[20:11] <Aytac> http://forum.ircalem.net
[20:11] <maduko> I
[20:11] <Aytac> http://forum.ircalem.net
[20:11] <squinty> Aytac:  take it elsewhere or the ops will ban you
[20:11] <bubbasaures> Aytac, stop please
[20:11] <DJones> Aytac: Please stop spamming that link
[20:11] <maduko> bubbasaures: I'm on a trip and I locked myself out of my computer.
[20:12] <maduko> bubbasaures: been using stumpwm and I changed the keyboard with xmodmap and now there is no way to do anything :(
[20:12] <Aytac> squidly
[20:12] <bubbasaures> maduko, Ah, bummer, I would address that if i were me, you want to be careful if you want the stuff inside, if at all possible now.
[20:12] <Aytac> ok
[20:13] <undecim> maduko, You should be able to change the keyboard back from a vt
[20:13] <bubbasaures> it*
[20:14] <maduko> undecim: vt? virtual terminal?
[20:14] <undecim> maduko, press ctrl+alt+f1, log in, type "export DISPLAY=:0", and you should be able to run xmodmap as if it were in a terminal on your desktop
[20:14] <undecim> maduko, assuming that :0 is your current display. you can use the "w" command to check
[20:14] <bubbasaures> undecim, really where when locked out?
[20:14] <bishopstix> mitt
[20:14] <maduko> undecim: thanks, I'll give it a shot right now
[20:15] <undecim> bubbasaures, If X is locked, it should affect the vt?
[20:15] <undecim> shouldn't*
[20:15] <bubbasaures> undecim, It is the computer not X
[20:15] <bekks> undecim: No.
[20:15] <undecim> How is the computer locked?
[20:16] <maduko> bubbasaures: I can log in since I know the password, I just can't do anything once it boots into stumpwm because my keyboard is changed
[20:16] <bishopstix> avid_fan: now it looks like the xix-media-player is working but I got an error while trying to update linux-image-extra-3.13.0-44-generic and boot space is almost full
[20:16] <bubbasaures> maduko, Ah, well helps to know all of what's going on.
[20:17] <TheVerge> avid_fan, I installed the gui using apt-get install ubuntu-desktop from the server edition
[20:17] <squinty> bishopstix:  use synaptic package manager to remove older kernels.  recommended is to leave one or two of the older ones for emergencies
[20:17] <TheVerge> avid_fan, how would I now remove it to get back to the server edition?
[20:18] <bishopstix> squinty: ok thanks
[20:18] <Ben_g> does nobody know how I can fix the xbox360 gamepad emulation?
[20:19] <squinty> bishopstix:  search for "linux-image" in synaptic (installed ones will have green box) also look for install  "-extra"'s associated with a linux image version
[20:19] <undecim> TheVerge, You could use a program called aptitude to deselect ubuntu-desktop, then reselect ubuntu-server. All ubuntu-desktop packages that are not part of ubuntu-server will be removed
[20:19] <undecim> TheVerge, There's probably some way to do the same thing with dpkg, but I couldn't tell you
[20:20] <xangua> undecim: no, they won't; ubuntu-server is just a metapackage
[20:20] <bishopstix> squinty: mark for complete removal?
[20:20] <xangua> as ubuntu-desktop
[20:20] <undecim> xangua, I've done it before....
[20:20] <undecim> xangua, when you re-select ubunt-server, at adds all the packages it depends on
[20:20] <OerHeks> Ben_g, you are the first one who wants to emulate xbox gamepad with a ps3 controller
[20:20] <mugetsu> hi i'm running ubuntu 14.04 lts and i need help troubleshooting my bluetooth
[20:21] <undecim> Actually, i correct myself. You don't select the package with aptitude. You select the section
[20:21] <undecim> I think its under "tasks"
[20:21] <squinty> bishopstix:  yes
[20:21] <Ben_g> OerHeks: Some steam games don't work correctly with a PS3 controller
[20:21] <TheVerge> undecim, is that a gui application
[20:21] <xangua> undecim: got it wrong, thought you were saying removing the metapackage will remove the other packages ;)
[20:21] <undecim> TheVerge, it is a curses applications
[20:21] <mugetsu> there are no hard blocks or soft blocks, but none of my blue tooth devices are disoverable
[20:22] <undecim> xangua, I thought that's what i was saying too XD
[20:22] <TheVerge> undecim, a what lol
[20:22] <Ben_g> And I know xboxdrv is supposed to support it, but for some reason it just errors on my laptop
[20:22] <undecim> TheVerge, CLI application
[20:22] <Ben_g> (the PS3 drivers do work though)
[20:22] <undecim> TheVerge, curses just means that instead of being line-by-line, it has a gui-like screen. You'll see what I mean
[20:23] <TheVerge> undecim, now I see what you mean yes
[20:23] <undecim> TheVerge, The bottom section is called "Tasks"
[20:23] <undecim> TheVerge, In there you should find ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server
[20:23] <bishopstix> squinty: looks like everything is working thanks!
[20:23] <TheVerge> installing it now
[20:23] <undecim> TheVerge, highlight ubuntu-desktop, press "-", then highlight ubuntu-server, press +
[20:23] <squinty> bishopstix: good to hear and thanks for the update. :)
[20:23] <mugetsu> i've tried a few things but i don't know what to do
[20:24] <undecim> TheVerge, then press "g" and make sure the package removal list looks sane
[20:25] <bishopstix> squinty: It is you guys to thank for helping us!
[20:25] <undecim> TheVerge, hmm. Looks like the "ubuntu-server" task was renamed to "server"?
[20:25] <undecim> TheVerge, Just make sure all your important packages are still there.
[20:26] <mugetsu> hello?
[20:26] <undecim> Before you press "g" a second time to commit the changes
[20:26] <OerHeks> Ben_g, oh, the steam community has an article about that https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/558748653738497361/
[20:26] <mugetsu> are there other users having problems with bluetooth connectivity on 14.04?
[20:27] <undecim> mugetsu, I can't get bluetooth to work at all
[20:27] <undecim> mugetsu, My hardware is recognized by the bluetooth stack, but just doesn't work
[20:27] <mugetsu> i can't get any of my devices to be seen by my PC, but the devices are discoverable
[20:28] <undecim> mugetsu, You might be suffering from the same bug as me
[20:28] <mugetsu> your hardware as in the PC hardware or the devices?
[20:29] <undecim> my PC hardware is seen, but I can't get it to do anything (including discover devices
[20:29] <undecim> Can other devices see your PC?
[20:31] <mugetsu> interesting, my phone is picking up the bluetooth id of my pc when it was running windows
[20:31] <undecim> mugetsu, Same here
[20:32] <mugetsu> i wonder if there is a command to reset it
[20:32] <undecim> mugetsu, I suspect it is firmware issue
[20:32] <mugetsu> the hardware all works, but i think that since it was used by windows there might be some issue there.
[20:33] <TheVerge> undecim, thanks :)
[20:33] <undecim> mugetsu, What model PC and/or dongle are you using?\
[20:33] <maduko> bubbasaures, undecim: Huzzah! I got root with recovery mode so I should be able to change xmodmap and have everything work. Thanks for the help!
[20:34] <mugetsu> an asus e1 572 with onboard bluetooth
[20:34] <undecim> maduko, Nice
[20:34] <mugetsu> i thinks its integrated with the wifi card
[20:34] <undecim> mugetsu, what is your wifi card chipset? (see "lspci")
[20:35] <mugetsu>  Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[20:36] <undecim> mugetsu, we're in the exact same situation then. I've search for a solution, but not found one.
[20:38] <lamppid_> how to create efi parition
[20:39] <undecim> mugetsu, From what I could find, we're lucky that our wifi works
[20:43] <mugetsu> that is messed up
[20:44] <undecim> I know it
[20:44] <arshia> I don't know is my USB destroyed or not. it does not have any file system. what should i do ?
[20:44] <undecim> I'm poking around with hci tool right now to see if I can get anything out of it...
[20:44] <undecim> arshia, probably get a new USB
[20:45] <arshia> undecim: I'm not sure is it destroyed or not. how to find that ??
[20:45] <undecim> arshia, Try "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/null" where /dev/sdX is your USB drive
[20:45] <undecim> arshia, if it runs into an error, then there is a problem with the drive
[20:46] <undecim> arshia, there's also a tool called badblocks for this sort of thing
[20:47] <arshia> undecim: The terminal is not respondig ...
[20:47] <undecim> arshia, It will take a minute
[20:47] <undecim> arshia, it's reading every bit of the drive
[20:47] <undecim> arshia, If there is a read error, it will tell you
[20:47] <undecim> arshia, it doesn't test write though
[20:48] <arshia> undecim: You said i should use badblocks. why ??
[20:48] <undecim> arshia, it is capable of testing write
[20:49] <arshia> how to get badblocks without the terminal ???
[20:49] <undecim> arshia, You could also do "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX".  just make absolutely sure that /dev/sdX is the right drive. It will write the entire drive with zeros
[20:49] <undecim> arshia, badblocks is command line application... i'm not sure if there is a GUI for it
[20:50] <arshia> undecim: where is it ?
[20:50] <arshia> undecim: I cannot enter a command for the terminal.
[20:50] <undecim> arshia, open a new terminal
[20:50] <arshia> Ok
[20:50] <undecim> arshia, or press control+c to cancel the DD command
[20:51] <gorelative> anyone here familiar with debmirror?
[20:52] <arshia> undecim: Terminal is working on the new command ...
[20:52] <filip2192> hello
[20:53] <arshia> undecim, How many times it will take ?
[20:54] <filip2192> clear
[20:54] <squinty> gorelative: better to just state your problem rather than "does anyone...."  :-)     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror     never used it myself so hopefully someone else will be able to chime in
[20:54] <filip2192> ;D
[20:55] <undecim> arshia, That depends on the drive, the USB link, and the alignment pattern of Saturn, Neptune, Alpha Centauri, and several undiscovered heavenly bodies
[20:55] <gorelative> squinty: yeah figured.. i run debmirror it syncs things up.. when i go to run apt-get update apt complains of binary-amd64/Packages missing
[20:55] <gorelative> so i go into that dir and all i see are Packages.gz and Packages.bz2
[20:56] <arshia> The drive is SilliconPower.
[20:56] <arshia> 8 GB
[20:57] <arshia> undecim: Why the filesystem is null ???
[20:57] <undecim> arshia, probably because the first sector was erased/corrupt
[20:57] <arshia> undecim: What first sector ???
[20:58] <undecim> arshia, You can get an idea of how far along it is. Type "sudo killall -SIGUSR1 dd" in another terminal, then look at the terminal with the dd command
[20:58] <undecim> arshia, The first 512 bytes of the drive
[20:58] <arshia> Got it.
[20:58] <isthisreallife> hi
[20:58] <arshia> undecim, What will "sudo killall -SIGUSR1 dd" do ????
[20:59] <isthisreallife> is it possible to set dolphin as default file manager in ubuntu?
[20:59] <undecim> arshia, sends a signal to all running dd processes that causes it to output its progress
[20:59] <arshia> Ok.
[20:59] <gorelative> This is my question on askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/574547/debmirror-not-downloading-packages-404-not-found
[20:59] <undecim> arshia, also try: sudo watch 'killall -SIGUSR1 dd'
[21:01] <arshia> undecim, No result for "sudo killall -SIGUSR1 dd" , it will ignore it.
[21:01] <undecim> arshia, The result appears in the terminal with the dd command
[21:02] <arshia> Saw that.
[21:02] <arshia> the massage is :
[21:03] <arshia> undecim: the result is : 2401257+0 records in
[21:03] <arshia> 2401257+0 records out
[21:03] <arshia><PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (1.2 GB) copied, 486.918 s, 2.5 MB/s
[21:03] <arshia> 2504297+0 records in
[21:03] <arshia> 2504297+0 records out
[21:03] <arshia><PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (1.3 GB) copied, 504.384 s, 2.5 MB/s
[21:03] <arshia> 2571329+0 records in
[21:03] <arshia> 2571329+0 records out
[21:04] <bekks> arshia: How much data are you trying to transfer using dd?
[21:04] <undecim> bekks, its a read test for 8GB usb drive
[21:04] <undecim> arshia, Did the command complete, or that is the result of the killall command?
[21:04] <bekks> undecim: To see how slow it will be? :)
[21:05] <undecim> bekks, to see if it's borked
[21:05] <arshia> i think it is the result of killall
[21:05] <undecim> arshia, it's at ~15% then.
[21:05] <bekks> undecim: Then badblocks would have been more usefull.
[21:05] <arshia> undecim, What's that mean ????
[21:05] <undecim> arshia, Means that the first 1.3 GB reads
[21:06] <undecim> arshia, I would stop at this point and try to create the FS with gparted
[21:06] <imbezol> you're not going to get a good speed with default blocksize
[21:06] <undecim> arshia, It's not a read error preventing the FS from being recognized if the first 1.2G is good
[21:06] <Neldogz> is there a command that will power off an external Western digial hard drive? Within the disks utility there is a power off button.. what command actually does that?
[21:06] <arshia> undecim: Ok , next ??
[21:06] <undecim> arshia, It might not write though. Create an fs and try copying files to it. Then make sure the files can be read and are identical to the source
[21:07] <undecim> arshia, use gparted to make a filesystem
[21:07] <imbezol> Neldogz: if it's properly unmounted you can just unplug it
[21:07] <arshia> undecim, How to create a FS ???
[21:07] <undecim> arshia, use Gparted
[21:07] <bekks> arshia: Create a partition with a filesyste on it, using gparted.
[21:08] <Neldogz> imbezol, the reason I am looking for a command is to add it to a cronjob on shutdown events.. WoL conflicts with external hard disks.. Causes the system to reboot instead of shutdown if the external hard drive is plugged in and turned on.
[21:08] <arshia> bekks: Explain more ... how  ???
[21:08] <bekks> arshia: BY clicking on the appropriate button in gparted?
[21:08] <imbezol> Neldogz: if the harddrive has power it's on.. there's no way to power it off
[21:09] <Neldogz> imbezol, if you open disks.. and you have an external hard drive connected.. do you also see a power off button?
[21:09] <arshia> bekks: I don't see any appropriate button .
[21:09] <bekks> arshia: So which buttons do you see? :)
[21:09] <imbezol> Neldogz: i don't have an external harddrive sorry
[21:10] <Neldogz> anyone know what command will correspond to this power off button in disks?
[21:10] <undecim> arshia, gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-create-new-partition
[21:10] <arshia> I don't know is it solved or not. i added a FAT32 filesystem to the USB.
[21:11] <arshia> the default was FAT32
[21:11] <Neldogz> ok more information, disks is actually gnome disks
[21:11] <Neldogz> and it uses udisks
[21:11] <undecim> arshia, now press the green check
[21:11] <undecim> arshia, And it will commit the changes
[21:12] <hey123> hi
[21:12] <hey123> wasssup
[21:12] <pentagrass> I'm using byobu (a wrapper for screen).. is there a way to protect a terminal from me hitting ctrl+c or ctrl+d??
[21:13] <undecim> Is it possible to sniff HCI traffic?
[21:13] <kirkland> pentagrass: define "protect"...
[21:13] <undecim> i.e. the link between Linux and the bluetooth hardware
[21:13] <pentagrass> kirkland: I don't want to accidentally hit ctrl+c and stop the process. I tried ctrl+s but I think that pauses the process
[21:13] <arshia> undecim: I see a green box , and the fs is fat32 , is it ok ????
[21:14] <undecim> arshia, Sounds good
[21:14] <kirkland> pentagrass: sure, you can tell Byobu to just "ignore" all ctrl-c presses
[21:14] <arshia> undecim: Well , lets test it !
[21:15] <arshia> undecim: How to see the USB files ???? I don't see it ?
[21:15] <arshia> ? __> .
[21:15] <undecim> arshia, After Gparted completes the changes, remove the USB and plug it back in
[21:15] <arshia> Hmmm...
[21:15] <bekks> arshia: you have to copy files onto it...
[21:16] <bekks> gparted doest do that :)
[21:16] <bekks> *doesnt
[21:19] <arshia> bekks: I don't see anything. is it bad ????
[21:19] <shadaloo> hi
[21:19] <shadaloo> i want to uninstall "Videos"
[21:19] <shadaloo> what package is this?
[21:20] <kroq-gar78> shadaloo I believe it's 'totem'
[21:20] <bekks> arshia: Did you mount the newly created filesystem?
[21:20] <arshia> undecim: Why i don't see anything again ???
[21:20] <shadaloo> kroq-gar78: that's right, good call sir
[21:21] <arshia> bekks: Not sure.'
[21:21] <bekks> !mount | arshia
[21:21] <undecim> arshia, You don't see the drive in the file browser?
[21:21] <arshia> undecim: No,
[21:22] <arshia> ubottu: I cannot mount it now.
[21:22] <undecim> arshia, If you used gparted correctly, then the only conclusions I can come to is the drive is broken
[21:22] <bekks> usuario: I dont come to that conclusion.
[21:22] <bekks> GNA.
[21:22] <bekks> undecim: ^
[21:23] <bekks> arshia: Mount the fs manually, then copy files to it, and compare them to the source.
[21:23] <arshia> bekks: Wait a minute...
[21:24] <b43> can anyone provide assistance in creating slideshows on lubuntu?
[21:25] <arshia> I think it is mounted.
[21:25] <undecim> b43, LibreOffice Impress is used for creating slideshows
[21:25] <b43> oh, is that the one like powerpoint?
[21:25] <undecim> b43, yup
[21:25] <b43> ok tyvm
[21:25] <jrg> neat. my keyboard cover thing for this laptop showed up. i hate not having one on a keyboard
[21:26] <jrg> seems like an iphone 5s is impossible to get to work in ubuntu directly. blah.
[21:26] <jrg> looks like i have to use a vm i suppose
[21:26] <arshia> undecim, I applied the operations. is it works ????
[21:26] <jrg> too bad MS can't release some microVM that simply installs stuff like this. or virtualbox can run a faux kernel and forward it to the xserver
[21:27] <arshia> undecim: The Mount menu was disabled , so i applied the operations.
[21:28] <arshia> undecim: I can see the USB , thanks form Everyone.
[21:37] <arshia> undecim: The second time i repluged , it doesn't see it in gparted and FIle explorer . why ?????!!!
[21:37] <undecim> arshia, check dmesg
[21:37] <undecim> arshia, in a terminal, do "dmesg | tail"
[21:38] <arshia> undecim: [ 3469.843265] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:38] <arshia> [ 3521.553074] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[21:38] <arshia> [ 3521.555314] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[21:38] <arshia> [ 3521.555320] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:38] <arshia> [ 3573.265058] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[21:38] <arshia> [ 3573.267303] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[21:38] <arshia> [ 3573.267311] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:39] <undecim> !paste | arshia
[21:39] <undecim> arshia, Your voice will come back soon
[21:40] <arshia> undecim: What the hell is going on here ????!!!! Why the second time it has a problem ???
[21:40] <undecim> arshia, give me a pastebin of the dmesg command
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3469.843265] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3521.553074] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3521.555314] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[21:41] <bubbasaures> arshia, read the bots message to you
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3521.555320] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3573.265058] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3573.267303] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[21:41] <arshia> [ 3573.267311] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:41] <undecim> !paste | arshia
[21:41] <undecim> You have to use paste.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <chompy> Hey guys. I am trying to do something that requires the java plugin in firefox. Every time I try to use it, it crashes
[21:42] <chompy> http://www.geforce.com/drivers is the link I'm visiting
[21:42] <bubbasaures> arshia, do not swear and use pastebin
[21:42] <chompy> can anyone give me some advice on how to keep it from crashing?
[21:42] <teward> chompy: what exactly is crashing
[21:42] <teward> the java plugin, or firefox, or neither?
[21:42] <chompy> teward: the java plugin
[21:42] <teward> chompy: and define "crashing" in context - what actually are you seeing
[21:42] <apb1963>  I lost my virtual desktops....  ubuntu 14.04 with kde... any help getting them back?
[21:43] <chompy> teward: a message at the top of the browser from firefox informing me that the java plugin has crashed, and to reload the page
[21:43] <chompy> teward: from terminal, The issue I see is that "Channel error: cannot send/recv"
[21:44] <bubbasaures> !details | apb1963
[21:44] <chompy> teward: [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
[21:46] <arshia> undecim: Please give me the result !!! I'm in hurry !!!
[21:47] <apb1963>   I lost my virtual desktops when I removed .kde/   ubuntu 14.04 with kde... any help getting them back?  I don't know if this is related to plasma-desktop but I'm unable to reinstall it either.
[21:47] <chompy> teward: you there? I don't mean to nag.
[21:48] <arshia> undecim: I don't know how to use PasteBin
[21:48] <bubbasaures> apb1963, "virtual desktops"?
[21:48] <apb1963> bubbasaures: yes
[21:48] <chompy> arshia: visit pastebin.com and paste code. press submit and give undecim the link
[21:48] <teward> chompy: i'm doing a lot of tasks at once - hate to ask but you arne't using java 8 are you
[21:48] <chompy> teward: I believe I am
[21:48] <bubbasaures> apb1963, a question mark indicates an explanation of what you mean.
[21:49] <chompy> teward: I am
[21:49] <teward> chompy: hate to ask if you can hunt for the java 7 plugin
[21:49] <teward> chompy: just to humor me and test...
[21:49] <teward> chompy: (Java 8 is evil)
[21:49] <chompy> teward: alrighty
[21:49] <chompy> please hold
[21:50] <bubbasaures> teward, could we stick with facts, and if an opinion state that.
[21:50] <chompy> teward: I can't seem to find a dl link for it
[21:50] <apb1963> bubbasaures: duplicate, independent, desktops, each with it's own "environment" for lack of a better way of expressing it.  I put application XYZ on desktop 1, app ABC on desktop 2, etc.
[21:50] <bubbasaures> apb1963, regular install multiple desktops?
[21:50] <teward> bubbasaures: i've seen java apps on sites blow up before in java 8 but work fine in java 7, hence why i suggested it
[21:51] <teward> bubbasaures: hence saying "humor me and test"
[21:51] <bubbasaures> teward, It was this "teward> chompy: (Java 8 is evil)"
[21:51] <chompy> teward: mind helping me hunt down a link?
[21:51] <arshia> undecim: Can u give me the result ??????????????????
[21:51] <apb1963> bubbasaures: I don't understand the question... it's a part of kde I think
[21:51] <teward> bubbasaures: be more specific next time, but i'm not the only one with those opinions.
[21:51] <bubbasaures> !fud | teward
[21:52] <bubbasaures> dude you are over the dege
[21:52] <bubbasaures> edge
[21:52] <undecim> arshia, I need you to go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste the dmesg output there
[21:52] <undecim> arshia, Then send me the link to the page you get
[21:52] <arshia> undecim: Ok : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9763956/
[21:53] <undecim> arshia, Okay, nothing interesting there. Can you do the same with the command "sudo blkid"?
[21:53] <bubbasaures> apb1963, I can't be any clearer I afraid, you are making up terms, that does not help.
[21:53] <bubbasaures> I'm*
[21:54] <arshia> undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9763998/
[21:54] <undecim> arshia, Nothing indicating the drive is there.
[21:55] <arshia> undecim: What is that meaning ???
[21:55] <undecim> arshia, it means Ubuntu does not see the drive
[21:55] <arshia> undecim: Why the first time it saw it ????
[21:55] <undecim> arshia, compare the output of "lsusb" with the USB inserted and with the USB removed
[21:55] <undecim> arshia, Most likely because the USB drive or USB link is unstable (i.e broken)
[21:56] <bekks> Or because it is not mounted.
[21:56] <undecim> bekks, blkid will can unmounted drives
[21:56] <undecim> scan*
[21:57] <bekks> undecim: remember to empty the blkid cache before, using sudo blkid -g; then scan using sudo blkid
[21:57] <undecim> bekks, didn't know about that
[21:57] <undecim> arshia, see bekks' comment ^^^
[21:58] <arshia> undecim: I see the USB now , after an unplug operation.
[21:58] <Mathis> hey
[21:58] <arshia> undecim: What is this ? A game ?????
[21:58] <arshia> The result of CMD is :
[21:59] <undecim> arshia, Yeah.  I'm not your USB
[22:00] <noah> i am having wifi problems
[22:01] <bubbasaures> noah, Give the hardware and the issue to the channel.
[22:01] <arshia> undecim, I say why the USB is avilable at a time, after Eject , Unavilable and after another unplug , Returns ???!!!
[22:01] <undecim> arshia, Sometimes, that's how it breaks
[22:01] <undecim> arshia, Or the connection isn't good
[22:02] <bekks> arshia: So just unplug it and plug it back in.
[22:02] <undecim> arshia, Or your motherboard is messed up (try another USB and see if its the same problem)
[22:02] <bubbasaures> noah, lspci in the terminal will show the wifi info
[22:02] <noah> bubbasaures: I can connect, but network-manager is having trouble managing the secrets
[22:02] <arshia> undecim: Maybe , Well , thanks for now.
[22:02] <bekks> undecim: The problem persists, its a long known desktop environment bug :)
[22:02] <bubbasaures> noah, secrets, you mean the password?
[22:02] <undecim> arshia, anyways, I have to go. I'll still be on my phone (undecim-phone), but I haven't used this app before, so I don't know how well it will handle switching cell towers
[22:03] <bekks> undecim: Solution: unplug it, plug it. :)
[22:03] <Neldogz> anyone know how to power on a disk, basically the reversal of udisksctl power-off --block-device /dev/sde1
[22:03] <bekks> Neldogz: Replace power-off with power-on ? :)
[22:03] <undecim> bekks, I've never seen or heard of the problem before
[22:03] <bekks> undecim: I never tried mounting an USB after I ejected it :)
[22:03] <Neldogz> bekks, that option does not exist
[22:04] <noah> bubbasaures: don't know, but syslog calls them secrets.
[22:04] <bubbasaures> noah, Not recognizable by me, maybe others know this, sorry about that.
[22:05] <Mathis> anyone?
[22:05] <bekks> Neldogz: my udisksctl doesnt support power-off, too.
[22:05] <bekks> Mathis: On what?
[22:05] <frozenlock> I decided to try the proprietary AMD drivers. When I saw no real benefit, I switched back to using the X.org X Server. However, now my fonts are all fuzzy... Any ideas what I might have broken?
[22:05] <Neldogz> I understand that udisksctl power-off does the following:  the effect is that the USB device will be deconfigured followed by disabling the upstream hub port it is connected to.
[22:05] <Mathis> repeating... when using a UMTS USB modem (ZTE MF667), I read about disabling the emulated CD drive... is this permanent or just until the device loses the power?
[22:05] <bubbasaures> !patience | Mathis pleas don'y anyone the channel.
[22:05] <Neldogz> so i guess the question is how do i re-enable the USB device?
[22:06] <bekks> Mathis: It will last until powering it off.
[22:06] <Mathis> thanks
[22:07] <noah> bekks: do you have experience with network-manager. It is being scitzophrenic
[22:11] <mugetsu> how can i set up using the arrow keys to scroll?
[22:11] <mugetsu> ubuntu 14.04 lts
[22:12] <bekks> noah: And whats the problem with network-manager?
[22:13] <noah> bekks: it's having trouble communiacting with kwallet (kubuntu's default pw encryption service)
[22:14] <bekks> noah: Can you define "trouble"?
[22:15] <noah> bekks: I save a network. It works. I can disconnect and reconnect. I can log out and log in. The trouble comes when I restart.
[22:15] <bekks> noah: Can you define "trouble"?
[22:16] <noah> bekks: once I restart and try to connect, it stays there until finally saying "no secrets were provided". then clicking connect works.
[22:18] <pengin_> can anyone help me out with some bash regex? this should be working, I think i've got everything escaped as necessary, but it's still failing. possibly due to string vs value? https://gist.github.com/dlutsch/f39e361a2bf8855f07bb
[22:23] <noah> bekks: did u get my last message?
[22:23] <kubunto> I am having severe internet issues on one of my machines
[22:23] <kubunto> dns failure is all I am aware of
[22:24] <kubunto> and i can still use ssh if i give it an ip
[22:24] <shuman> kubunto: any chance for alternative drivers?
[22:24] <kubunto> shuman: open to suggestions
[22:25] <shuman> my broadcom sometimes (after updates) begins to act the same way
[22:25] <noah> kubunto: what is the issue. I'm may be able to help, unless it's hardware-related.
[22:25] <kubunto> noah: shuman root is that i can connect for a max of a minute or so
[22:25] <shuman> kubunto: wifi?
[22:25] <Ben64> kubunto: but you said it works if you use ip?
[22:25] <kubunto> Ben64: yes
[22:26] <kubunto> shuman: not only wifi
[22:26] <Ben64> kubunto: then set a [different] dns server
[22:26] <kubunto> Ben64: ive tried to set the name server to 8.8.8 and it does nothing
[22:27] <Ben64> 8.8.8 is not an ip
[22:27] <kubunto> Ben64: dns suggestions?
[22:28] <Ben64> <IP_ADDRESS> is one
[22:28] <Ben64> and how are you setting it
[22:28] <kubunto> Ben64: network manager in ubuntu
[22:29] <Ben64> kubunto: are you experiencing the issue now
[22:29] <kubunto> Ben64: i wont be able to tell until i getthe ssd back into the other machine
[22:29] <Ben64> well you need to be able to test things
[22:30] <kubunto> right now I am writing an image to an ssd
[22:30] <mnature> Hello , I keep getting a window on login telling me my xscreensaver is out dated
[22:30] <kubunto> micro sd*
[22:30] <dreki> A few days ago(I'm not even sure what I was trying to do now) I changed the chmod settings on /media/ and now whenever I try to mount an external USB it mounts without access permissions. Can someone help me set chmod back to its normal default chmod settings?
[22:31] <mnature> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of it
[22:31] <dreki> I meant to say can someone help me set /media/ back to its default chmod settings.
[22:31] <Ben64> mnature: can you post a screenshot of it
[22:32] <mnature> no t only stays there for a few seconds
[22:32] <mugetsu> how can i remove the joined and left notifications?
[22:32] <mugetsu> it's bugging the crap out of me
[22:32] <DJones> !quietirc | mugetsu
[22:33] <Noah_> http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[22:33] <Noah_> wah thanks i was wondering same thing
[22:33] <Ben64> mnature: i'd need to see it in order to tell what's going on
[22:33] <mnature> how to take a screen shot ?
[22:33] <noah> Noah_: hey! another Noah.
[22:33] <Ben64> mnature: print screen button
[22:34] <Noah_> hi other noah :)
[22:34] <noah> I'm having wifi secrets issues
[22:34] <mnature> Alright I'll reboot , bbs
[22:35] <A124> Hello. I will be straightforward.. how do I get ReiserFS back to Ubuntu?
[22:35] <Basketballl> hello who needs help
[22:35] <kubunto> ill be backs
[22:37] <A124> Basketballl: I need help
[22:37] <A124> Getting ReiserFS back to Ubuntu.
[22:37] <A124> (On already installed system)
[22:37] <Basketballl> A124, sorry never heard of that
[22:37] <mugetsu> i'm new to ubuntu anything i should know or programs i should install/
[22:37] <mugetsu> ?
[22:38] <A124> Basketballl: What? That is filesystem. One of the best filesystems ever.
[22:38] <Ben64> !reiser | A124
[22:38] <SchrodingersScat> !reiserfs | A124, it's so murderous
[22:38] <SchrodingersScat> oops
[22:38] <bekks> A124: LOL. BAsically, it is dead, for a decade now.
[22:39] <eggbeater> mugetsu: it depends. what do you plan on doing?
[22:39] <mugetsu> something new. im exploring operating systems other than windows for now.
[22:39] <A124> bekks, Ben64, SchrodingersScat: I Do not care if it is dead or not, I know that. I asked to to get it to Ubuntu.
[22:40] <A124> mugetsu: I personally do not like the default Ubuntu GUI spin.
[22:40] <Ben64> A124: then go for it, good luck
[22:40] <mugetsu> i figured there has got to be something better than windows so here i am
[22:40] <SchrodingersScat> A124: there was no link in the !reiser, I have nowhere to go from here.
[22:40] <A124> mugetsu: Want a tip? My few most used apps: htop, less, mc, nano
[22:41] <bekks> A124: you have to patch it yourself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/reiser4
[22:43] <A124> bekks: If it works, AWESOME! Love you.
[22:43] <mnature> /home/mnature/Pictures/Screenshot - 01162015 - 04:41:31 PM.png
[22:43] <A124> Getting another kernel cause of that is a Pita, but whatever.
[22:43] <Ben64> mnature: you can't paste photos in irc.... upload to somewhere like imgur.com and give us the link
[22:43] <eggbeater> mugetsu: Most everything you need is preinstalled...web browsers, office suites, the works
[22:43] <bekks> A124: Thats one of the downsides.
[22:43] <eggbeater> even games >_<
[22:44] <mnature> ok
[22:45] <A124> bekks: Yeah, thoguht about going Archlinux, which I may for this purposes, but for now on I got a generic machine. Got kind of specific setup with specific tools with specific parameters, which does tremendously boost workflow speed eliminating multiple layers implementation and specific usage. Else I use ext4 as usual.
[22:47] <Guest63111> Hey quick question:  Did that huge Freenode hack ever get resolved?
[22:48] <Guest63111> I feel iffy being on Ubuntu Freenode
[22:48] <Ben64> piter-de-vries: ask in #freenode for Freenode stuff
[22:48] <piter-de-vries> okays thx
[22:48] <arcsky> what ftp client (GUI) do you guys recommend? i love flashfxp but its only for windows :/
[22:48] <mnature> here it is   https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=786026018145567&set=a.108444489237060.17055.100002145278334&type=1&theater
[22:49] <Ben64> mnature: facebook? :|
[22:49] <Jordan_U> arcsky: Nautilus.
[22:49] <Ben64> mnature: try imgur.com
[22:49] <mnature> alright
[22:50] <A124> arcsky: FileZilla :D
[22:51] <A124> But usually I just use mc
[22:51] <arcsky>  FileZilla any other ?
[22:52] <A124> As I said, mc
[22:54] <mnature_> here it is  http://i.imgur.com/r5u8bBd.png
[22:55] <Jordan_U> arcsky: Did you see my recommendation?
[22:56] <piter-de-vries> seen_vader518
[22:56] <piter-de-vries> Whatre the bot commands?
[22:56] <arcsky> Jordan_U: doesnt support FXP
[22:56] <erichf> hello, is there a way to killall chromium-browser that works?
[22:56] <chris13365> hi.  i am setting up a network printer and need to know the device's URI.  The ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>, is that what the URI is also?
[22:57] <piter-de-vries> !seen vader_518
[22:57] <piter-de-vries> oh
[22:58] <frozenlock> Here is an screenshot of my 'blurry fonts' http://i.imgur.com/U8oxDYQ.png . I have this since I reverted to the open source drivers for my ati card. Any ideas how to get normal fonts back?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> mnature_: Xscreensaver is is the repo (Version: 5.15-3ubuntu1), what have you done that the old version is still on your system ?
[22:59] <soua> hello
[22:59] <curtis> hi
[22:59] <mnature_> nothing it's on my siister's pc too
[22:59] <frozenlock> I tried switching back to the proprietary drivers and the fonts look great.  Maybe you can 'remove' it and install afresh from the repo ?
[23:00] <A124> Should I update to latest kernel or not? (LTS version, clean install)
[23:00] <mnature_> i didn't , it just appeared
[23:01] <erichf> killall chromium-browser* && killall chromium-browser* works
[23:02] <erichf> for some reason I have to execute the command twice
[23:02] <A124> Yeah, cause of the main re-spawns children.
[23:02] <pragmaticenigma> frozenlock, it looks like the anti-aliasing settings for your display might be off
[23:02] <chris13365> I am setting up a network printer.  Is the "device URI" the same as it's "ip address"?
[23:03] <frozenlock> pragmaticenigma: any ideas how to turn it back on?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> mnature_: Well, we do not know, yet . Any result from terminal command -> apt-mark showholds <-  ?
[23:05] <sudormrf> have a throwback here....is there a program (graphical is preferred) for creating an "iso" of a floppy disk for ubuntu?  I know ISO isn't the right format, but that is to illustrate what I am trying to do
[23:06] <pragmaticenigma> frozenlock, spooling up an instance of ubuntu now (don't currently have unity setup)
[23:06] <mnature_> I wonder why it stay on my hard drive even after I eraced the whole drive ?
[23:06] <Ben64> sudormrf: dd
[23:06] <frozenlock> pragmaticenigma: thanks a lot
[23:07] <frozenlock> It's such a small thing... the font... but really it's giving me a headache
[23:08] <pragmaticenigma> frozenlock, I agree, i'm very sensitive to that sort of thing myself.
[23:09] <Bashing-om> mnature_: Is it ? what does the package manager know ? -> dpkg -l xscreensave <- .
[23:10] <Bashing-om> ^^ dpkg -l xscreensaver *
[23:13] <A124> bekks: Just realized that is Reiser4, not Reiserfs. But will try anyway. Not sure if Reiserfs is not in kernel or I cannot find mkfs for reiser
[23:13] <bekks> A124: Do you really want the ancient reiserfs v3?!
[23:14] <A124> Yeah.
[23:14] <bekks> Good luck with that one :)
[23:14] <A124> It was enabled by default on kernel config.
[23:15] <A124> As a module.. so I might find a kerne.. yep.. it is thre.
[23:15] <A124> Now I am missing userspace tool to makefs.
[23:16] <mnature> hanks for your help , I figured it out in the terminal , It's gone now
[23:18] <ki7mt> I just looked at my supported file system, I don't see Reiser* anything being supported in the generic kernel. not that I want it, was just curious.
[23:20] <chaotix> hey.  what is the login and password for CUPS, on Ubuntu 14.04?
[23:20] <ki7mt> whoops, belay my last reiserfs is there: ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/fs
[23:20] <Jordan_U> ki7mt: How are you checking for supported filesystems?
[23:22] <mindphuck> i have a slight, mysterious issue, there are 3 or 4 folders i have on my external hard drive that show up in windows explorer, but not in linux, any suggestion?
[23:22] <ki7mt> Jordan_U, I was looking at /proc/filesystem, which I think is listing only those that are currently in use at the moment.
[23:23] <bubbasaures> mindphuck, ctrl-h to show hidden
[23:23] <mindphuck> but they arent hidden, they are just regular folders that contain files,
[23:23] <csmule> How do I supress errors in upstart jobs so it doesn't abort?
[23:24] <bubbasaures> mindphuck, did you check if hidden in ubuntu?
[23:24] <mindphuck> yep, first thing i checked
[23:24] <mindphuck> so originally i thought i deleted them by accident, and went back to windows to get a data recovery program, then i just took a gander in the folder and low and behold there they were
[23:25] <bubbasaures> mindphuck, with any details it will be a dead duck here.
[23:26] <A124> bekks: modprobe + package reiserfsprogs, solved!
[23:26] <A124> Might try to compile and play with Reiser4 for the fun.
[23:26] <mindphuck> what about ducks?
[23:26] <A124> Reiser4 was heading into phenomenal heights, but thanks to the arrest of the author it .. went astray sadly.
[23:27] <bekks> A124: And reiserfs v3 was replaced by reiser4 long before.
[23:27] <A124> bekks: That is the point.
[23:28] <bubbasaures> mindphuck, You have this nick and you do not kn ow what I mean, by the way it is really offensive.
[23:29] <bubbasaures> why it is allowed I would not no
[23:29] <noah> I am having issues with kwallet and wifi.
[23:29] <bubbasaures> know*
[23:29] <mindphuck> i didnt come in here for you to tell me what nickname i should choose, did i? no i didnt think so, and how in the hell is it offensive? are you that much of a prude?
[23:31] <Noah_> hmm
[23:34] <csmule> must be from california
[23:37] <noah> i'm back
[23:41] <Scunizi> Any reason why kmail from within Kontact won't switch from the "Welcome to Kamil 4.14.2" screen after downloading from gmail?
[23:43] <A124> Kernel compilation.. I got error when checking platforms I do not care about.. how can I ignore that?
[23:55] <A124> Another problem apache.. have vidrtual host on a directory in /opt/ yet it displays /var/www
[23:55] <A124> And I ahve no idea why.
[23:59] <linuxmint> Hello, no sound on Ubuntu 14.04 unless I unplug and plug the HDMI cord back in.
[23:59] <linuxmint> I just turned of Audio in BIOS.
[23:59] <linuxmint> Alsamixer has no SPDIF or MM to adjust?