[19:32] <guntbert> dbugger: I was too quick - apologies
[19:32] <Blaster> anyone know of a way to move a window onto another screen? i know about tools like 'devils pie', but that only allows me to move matched windows between workspaces, not between X screens.. My problem is that all the apps I launch in my dual screen setup appears on Screen 0, even if I launch them from Screen 1
[19:32] <OEP> mhall119|work, ok.. I'll check out the rules and see what I find
[19:32] <mhall119|work> blue112: chroot isn't really secure
[19:32] <Canageek> mhall119|work: sitting on "Resolving www.google.ca" however google loaded finally in w3m
[19:33] <fahadsadah> !udev | OEP
[19:33] <blue112> mhall119|work: Then what can I do for secure it ?
[19:33] <bucky> Blaster, drag and drop on the pager in the bottom right corner
[19:33] <DigitalDarkness> Question, if someone has time: I was putting a older GTK1 rc file in my theme for Gnome I am working on as a complimentary theme for that last apt or two that still using it (e.i. XMMS). But it doesnt seem to be showing up. Even on older themes I did 4 years ago? Any ideas why on Ubu 904?
[19:33] <fahadsadah> !udev-rules
[19:33] <mhall119|work> blue112: make sure the user doesn't have admin privileges
[19:33] <nperry> Blaster: define screen?  are we talking workspaces
[19:33] <OEP> fahadsadah, I don't think that will be necessary :P
[19:33] <bucky> Blaster, or right click on the title bar and select move to on the menu
[19:33] <dbugger> guntbert, what?? too quick for what?
[19:33] <blue112> mhall119|work: The problem is I don't want him to see the content of the php files in the server (which contains mysql password)...
[19:34] <mhall119|work> blue112: do make those files readable only by the webserver user
[19:34] <fahadsadah> OEP: ubottu makes dealing with the noobs so much easier.
[19:34] <guntbert> dbugger: never mind, I sent you a wrong factoid :-/
[19:34] <Blaster> nperry, no, X screens .. where each screen has a number of workspaces
[19:34] <dbugger> guntbert, no problem: can you send me a right one? :)
[19:35] <OEP> fahadsadah, I see that a lot around here heh
[19:35] <mhall119|work> fahadsadah: we don't "deal with noobs", we help young Ubuntu community members
[19:35] <Blaster> bucky, right clicking the title bar only allows me to move to workspaces (right-of etc)
[19:35] <blue112> mhall119|work: It's complex because many user are using it :/ It'll be easier to prevent access from it with a chroot, as in ftp.
[19:35] <fahadsadah> Blaster, nperry: TTYs, basically.
[19:35] <guntbert> dbugger: sorry, no
[19:35] <Ubuntun00b> I need help with grub...
[19:35] <fahadsadah> mhall119|work: Same thing
[19:35] <mhall119|work> you can't more windows from one X display to another
[19:35] <fahadsadah> !grub | Ubuntun00b
[19:35] <raylu> blue112: then put those users in the webserver group
[19:35] <bucky> Blaster, you're not going to be able to move apps to another instance of X started by another user
[19:36] <fahadsadah> Or even the same user.
[19:36] <Ubuntun00b> I couldn't boot windows after installing ubuntu.
[19:36] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[19:36] <bucky> Blaster, what fahadsadah said ^^
[19:36] <Ubuntun00b> I used winxp lite.
[19:36] <bucky> Blaster, if you're in console use screen
[19:36] <mhall119|work> there is an experimental x server called "xmove" (I think) that lets you move windows to other X displays
[19:36] <Arkns> hi. Tring to change my username, I lost it. after a series of commands trying to recreate I see that when I try it to change they rename it to newname. so I rename it again and change password. but I cannot log graphically. on terminal I can, with password
[19:36] <Ubuntun00b> I'm in ubuntu now.
[19:37] <Blaster> bucky, it's not another user.. i have a dual screen setup attached to my graphics card. I logon, i get two independent desktops.. if I move my mouse "below" screen #0, it appears on screen #1
[19:37] <Blaster> mhall119|work, for some reason, apps started on screen 1, appears on screen 0
[19:37] <fahadsadah> Arkns: In the commands you type, actually substitute the new name in for "newname"
[19:37] <mhall119|work> Blaster: ah, okay, are you running Compiz?
[19:37] <Ubuntun00b> title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[19:37] <Ubuntun00b> rootnoverify	(hd0,0)
[19:37] <Ubuntun00b> savedefault
[19:37] <Ubuntun00b> makeactive
[19:37] <Ubuntun00b> chainloader	+1
[19:37] <FloodBot3> Ubuntun00b: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <JarlG> Hi! I'm usually using a RAID 0 setup with my two HDs, but it seems ubuntu won't boot while RAID is enabled, so I had to change to ATA. Now I can't utilize the other HD, is there any way for ubuntu to recognize both?
[19:38] <Ubuntun00b> How do I know what hd ubuntu is on?
[19:38] <Ubuntun00b> *windows is on.
[19:38] <Blaster> mhall119|work, well, i'm not sure ..? :) i don't have all those fancy visual effects, but it might be running in the background. how can i tell?
[19:38] <mhall119|work> Ubuntun00b: fire up gparted, that'll tell you
[19:38] <hrab> can anyone reccoment a remote desktop solution for ubuntu, or decent vpn client, that doesn't twitch like a hooker on a 15 day heroin bender?
[19:38] <{zEr0-x}> hi everybody!
[19:38] <hrab> reccomend too.
[19:38] <bucky> Blaster, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/56258
[19:38] <mhall119|work> Blaster: do your windows have drop-shadows?
[19:39] <tofix> hello all, tell me something, when i bridge 2 tap (each of them provide an ethX in kvm virtual computer ) i should be able to ping from each side of the tap if they are in a the same subnet or do i have somehting else to do before ?
[19:39] <Ubuntun00b> Is gparted already included in ubuntu or do I have to install it?
[19:39] <mhall119|work> hrab: which do you want, VPN or remote desktop?
[19:39] <mhall119|work> Ubuntun00b: It's on the LiveCD, but I don't think it gets installed by default
[19:40] <mhall119|work> Blaster: if you are running compiz, then there is a plugin to help with window placement, otherwise get "devilspie"
[19:40] <bucky> Ubuntun00b, dpkg -l gparted to find out look for ii at the start of the return line
[19:40] <raylu> Ubuntun00b, mhall119|work: sudo fdisk -l
[19:40] <Blaster> mhall119|work, devilspie only allows moving matched windows between workspaces, not screens (as far as i can tell...)
[19:41] <mhall119|work> Blaster: really?
[19:41]  * mhall119|work hasn't really used it seriously
[19:41] <Ubuntun00b> dpkg -l gparted I to install?
[19:41] <mhall119|work> Blaster: if using Compiz, you can try disabling the Smart Placement
[19:41] <bucky> Ubuntun00b, dpkg -l gparted to find out if it's installed that was your question right
[19:42] <ejv> hrab: i like NX/freenx
[19:42] <Ubuntun00b> It's not installed.
[19:42] <raylu> Ubuntun00b: that's an L, not an l. like i said, "sudo fdisk -l" is sufficient
[19:42] <bucky> Ubuntun00b, install it
[19:42] <Blaster> mhall119|work, i went into the System -> Preferences -> Appearance, and selected "Normal" at Visual effects-tab.. now I have dropped shadows everywhere, does that mean Compiz is on? :)
[19:42] <|OLLIE|> Ubuntun00b, try: sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:43] <mhall119|work> Blaster: yes, now it's on
[19:43] <mhall119|work> you'll want to install compiz-config-settings-manager
[19:43] <Ubuntun00b> /dev/sda1   *           1       36473   292969341    7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:43] <mhall119|work> compizconfig-settings-manager actually
[19:43] <dmz> howdy y'all, anyone know where I can find adobe acroreader for jaunty amd64? medibuntu doesn't have it
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> !icon
[19:44] <Bonsao> hello, i'm having some trouble getting ubuntu netbook remix to find my belkin router... anyone here who can help`?
[19:44] <mhall119|work> dmz: does Adobe have a 64bit version of Acrobat?
[19:44] <fahadsadah> !icons
[19:44] <Blaster> mhall119|work, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/56258 describes my problem exactly.. unfortunately, i can't use TwinView as the answer suggets, since my screens run at completely different resolutinos
[19:44] <fahadsadah> !icon is <alias>icons
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: sudo lshw -C network will get us started, please pastebin the output
[19:44] <raylu> Ubuntun00b: that's hd0,0, indeed. what happened when you tried to boot it?
[19:44] <dmz> mhall119 well 32bit then, both will work
[19:44] <mhall119|work> dmz: 32bit is in the repos I think
[19:45] <Ubuntun00b> It said "Booting ..." or something
[19:45] <Ubuntun00b> And nothing happened.
[19:45] <{zEr0-x}> may somebody help me doing a presentation paper for my C.V.?
[19:45] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: pastebin'ing the output is difficult when i can't get it online :p
[19:45] <fahadsadah> !ot {zEr0-x}
[19:45] <fahadsadah> !ot | {zEr0-x}
[19:45] <|OLLIE|> heh
[19:46] <makasu26> what do i do after a root shell promt and it ask for a root password that i dont know?
[19:46] <fahadsadah> Bonsao: Save to a file (command > filename), and pastebin that from another computer.
[19:46] <dmz> mhall119 the last time acroread was "in" the repo was on dapper and is v7.0.9 :(
[19:46] <fahadsadah> !sudo | makasu26
[19:47] <dmz> i'll just install from adobe, thanks
[19:47] <ejv> makasu26: use sudo
[19:47] <makasu26> i use sudo where it says the root passwd for manitenance?
[19:47] <mhall119|work> makasu26: it's asking you to set the password?
[19:47] <pleasework> is there an apt-get that will reinstall the ieee8011 stack and ipw2100 drivers?  i was trying to reinstall the drivers n everything got removed
[19:48] <makasu26> it sayd give root password for maintenace or control +d
[19:48] <Ubuntun00b> When I boot winxp with grub after installing ubuntu It says "Booting..." but nothing happens.
[19:48] <mnaines> 71W per hour...That's how much my laptop and the external hard drive require when they are both plugged in
[19:48] <fahadsadah> makasu26: Where are you asked that?
[19:48] <Resistol> Is there a way in samba to make the equivalent of Windows XP's "Hidden" share?  The idea is to have no login necessary for anyone in the LAN, but they at least need to know the name of the folder to find it - it does not show up in network places.
[19:48] <iceroot> dmz: acroread is of couse still in the repos
[19:49] <pleasework> Ubuntun00b, its kinda funny but i use to have a problem with a laptop where when it froze i had to hold spacebar n it would boot.  otherwise it would hang
[19:49] <fahadsadah> Resistol: Did you try the Windows method of prefixing it with a $?
[19:49] <mhall119|work> Resistol: man smb.conf ?
[19:49] <makasu26> im in the rocovery mode.I trying to add my user to admin.
[19:50] <mhall119|work> makasu26: try just hitting enter?
[19:50] <Flannel> makasu26: adduser user admin (where user is your username)
[19:50] <makasu26> root shell promt ask me for a root password for maintence or press ctrl+D
[19:50] <Resistol> fahadsadah, I have not tried anything yet (i believe the $ comes after the name btw) - I am just trying to convince the boss at this small office (5 computers) to switch from XP home to Ubuntu server
[19:50] <Flannel> makasu26: Have you set a root password?
[19:50] <Resistol> XP home is giving him problems, slowness and access denieds (maybe due to the 5 computer limit of XP)
[19:51] <makasu26> I have not set a root paswword.
[19:51] <bucky> Resistol, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1173333
[19:51] <Flannel> makasu26: then hit ctrl-d
[19:51] <fahadsadah> Resistol: You're right. It's Share$, and in Samba, you can use the Browsable option.
[19:51] <fahadsadah> Flannel: That will continue boot normally, IIRC.
[19:51] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/258839/
[19:51] <puff> Well, that was fun.  I was editing an OpenOffice doc, about 122 pages, switching back and forth between firefox and OO to copy and paste some graphs that I'd generated as gnuplot images in an HTML file, when suddenly I was back at the Gnome login prompt.
[19:51] <jiohdi> trying to make vnc4server work... seems to be running... but my other machine cannot connect or discover it
[19:51] <makasu26> It will restart id I press ctrl d.
[19:51] <Resistol> fahadsadah, do i need to use the $ in samba?  Or is that what the "Browsable" option does?
[19:51] <jMyles> Any VNC experts in here?  I can connect with VNC to my home computer, but the screen does not change no matter what I do.  I am looking at an instance of Miro running full screen.  However, this app is dead - I killed it using SSH.  I cannot click anything.  What gives?
[19:51] <puff> no reboot, it looks like it just killed my gnome session completely, and all of hte apps running (emacs, terminal, firefox, open ofice, nautilus).
[19:52] <makasu26> I need to get passs it so i can adduser username admin there
[19:52] <Ubuntun00b> When I boot winxp with grub after installing ubuntu It says "Booting..." but nothing happens.
[19:52] <bucky> Resistol, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1173333
[19:52] <fahadsadah> Resistol: The $ will have no effect, use Browsable (set it to no)
[19:52] <mhall119|work> jMyles: you need to disable Damage polling in your VNC Server
[19:52] <mhall119|work> jMyles: that is, if you're running compiz or the like on the host
[19:52] <jMyles> mhall119|work: Thanks for coming through again.  :-)  What is damage polling?  OK, well I can kill compiz.
[19:53] <OEP> makasu26, did you use a livecd? if you haven't set a root password you'll probably need to boot to a livecd. after that you can edit '/etc/group' and add your username to the right of the line that starts as 'admin'
[19:53] <inubu> hi
[19:53] <PariBac> ggf
[19:53] <extor> is there any way to reset my keyboard mappings, like maybe restart some daemon cuz my shift key and some other keys no longer work in this x serrion
[19:53] <mhall119|work> jMyles: XDamage is an X extension that lets X only redraw the parts of the screen that have changed
[19:53] <david__> hi all
[19:53] <mhall119|work> jMyles: but with compositing like Compiz, the X server can't rely on that information
[19:53] <david__> I'm having trouble burning +R DVD's in Ibex anyone familar?
[19:53] <gartral> extor: your mouse working?
[19:54] <extor> yeah mouse works fine
[19:54] <mhall119|work> most VNC servers will, by default, use XDamage to reduce the amount of updates it has to send
[19:54] <jMyles> mhall119|work: Gotcha.  You are right - killing compiz fixed the problem.  I'll do some more research.  Thanks for 2/2 today.
[19:54] <extor> lowercase keys work fine too
[19:54] <makasu26> Thanks .It seems making livecd is my last optiong.Good Day to you all.
[19:54] <gartral> extor: System>Preferences>Keyboard
[19:54] <mhall119|work> jMyles: np
[19:54] <Ubuntun00b> When I boot winxp with grub after installing ubuntu It says "Booting..." but nothing happens.
[19:54] <Resistol> Thanks bucky and fahadsadah
[19:54] <jiohdi> if my vnc is running, why can't I see it from my other machine?
[19:55] <gartral> jiohdi: firewalls set anywhere?
[19:55] <raylu> puff: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:55] <david__> I need help burning a DVD movie onto a +R dvd in ubuntu
[19:55] <Blaster> mhall119|work, can't seem to find any "smart placment" plugins in the settings manager though
[19:55] <jiohdi> gartral, not by me
[19:55] <Bonsao> fahadsadah: http://paste.ubuntu.com/258839/
[19:55] <david__> anyone?
[19:55] <extor> gartral, yeah that worked I think
[19:55] <mhall119|work> Blaster: under window management?
[19:56] <Ubuntun00b> When I boot winxp with grub after installing ubuntu It says "Booting..." but nothing happens.
[19:56] <Blaster> i read something about the "Put" feature allows you to move, but when enabled, it doesn't really give me any new options when i rightclick my windows
[19:56] <westherm> If I attached a second monitor, and fiddled about with the settings in the system->preferences->display, what file are those settings saved in?
[19:56] <david__> bueller?
[19:56] <Blaster> do i need to restart anything for changes to take effect?
[19:56] <mhall119|work> the plugin name is "Place Windows"
[19:56] <david__> anyone
[19:56] <ctacok> Hello to all
[19:56] <ctacok> Russiaa)
[19:56] <mhall119|work> david__: does your DVD drive support +R?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[19:56] <gartral> !ru | ctacok
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: apparently that nails it
[19:57] <Ubuntun00b> When I boot winxp with grub after installing ubuntu It says "Booting..." but nothing happens.
[19:57] <mhall119|work> westherm: usually /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:57] <ctacok> Блин
[19:57] <ctacok> А тут чо и по русски базарят/
[19:57] <werti_rus> ctacok )
[19:57] <guntbert> !repeat | Ubuntun00b
[19:57] <ctacok> ?
[19:57] <werti_rus> ctacok ) no
[19:57] <westherm> mhall119|work: I figured, but anywhere else?
[19:57] <werti_rus> ctacok ) join #russian
[19:57] <ctacok> ok
[19:57] <ctacok> thanks
[19:57] <david__> whall yes it does
[19:57] <david__> 100%
[19:58] <mhall119|work> westherm: I'm not sure where all the new auto-config'ed stuff lives
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> !ru | ctacok
[19:58] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: it says it can't find the package
[19:58] <david__> mhall119|work,  yes it does100%
[19:58] <mhall119|work> david__: okay, so where are you getting stuck?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: sudo apt-get update
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: then rerun the install command (use up cursorto review old commands)
[19:59] <david__> mhall119|work,  Im using brasero and when I get to burn the dvd it says its a not compatible dvd
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: if you are not using jaunty, change 'jaunty' to your release name
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: you can find this out with lsb_release -c
[19:59] <gartral> david__: is the disk your burning to a DL or SL?
[20:00] <mhall119|work> david__: that's all the info?
[20:00] <simran> guys ive got 2 os on my laptop, flv (flash) plays fine on xp, but reallly crappy on ubuntu (vlc)...??
[20:00] <simran> its a real shame
[20:00] <david__> gardar,   that's a good question its a +R 4.7 gig doesnt say on it but my writer supports Dl as well
[20:01] <eurythmia> how can I find out what services are using tcp ports 8010, or 111 on my machine?
[20:01] <mhall119|work> simran: Flash on Linux has limited hardware acceleration support
[20:01] <david__> mhall119|work,  I havent used other programs besides brasero
[20:01] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: i am using jaunty. However, the update-command tried to access a bunch of web pages - But it can't, because it's not online
[20:01] <david__> mhall119|work,  Im sorry
[20:01] <puff> raylu:  Would the problem be at the beginning or end of Xorg.0.log?
[20:01] <gartral> david__: 4.7 gb is SL... does the drive support +R?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: then use a wired connection so you can install the package
[20:01] <raylu> puff: the end, of course
[20:01] <simran> ahh makes sense.. mhakk119|work , do you think it will change in future versions?
[20:02] <mhall119|work> david__: I once had a Dell with a DVD burner that I had to firmware unlock to get it to support +R
[20:02] <david__> gartral,  yes I have used this drive with these dvdsin windows many times, with no error
[20:02] <david__> its not a hardware issue
[20:02] <guntbert> eurythmia: lsof -i should give you a list of connections and servers
[20:02] <david__> at all
[20:02] <mhall119|work> simran: maybe, depends on Adobe
[20:02] <eurythmia> guntbert, thanks.
[20:02] <david__> this is not a hardware issue at all
[20:02] <mhall119|work> simran: sometimes telling Flash to _not_ use hardware acceleration actually helps it
[20:02] <simran> i wonder why no one has made a 3rd party program, so we dont need to use flash
[20:02] <david__> the drive works fine under winblows, so its got to be software related.
[20:03] <simran> mhall119|work  how do i do that?
[20:03] <mhall119|work> simran: gnash is the GNU Flash alternative
[20:03] <eurythmia> simran, it's still in the works, it's called HTML 5
[20:03] <guntbert> eurythmia: yw, and if you want only servers type lsof -li
[20:03] <mhall119|work> simran: I don't remember, you'll have to google it
[20:03] <genii> eurythmia: I like to use something like:   lsof -i:<portnumber>   to find what open files are using what ports
[20:03] <RealKillaz> uhmm guys I have ubuntu 8.10 and after instaling mysql-server and creating databases/tables
[20:03] <RealKillaz> everythuing is ok
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> simran: gnash and swfdec exist
[20:03] <simran> will gnash run flash fine ?
[20:03] <david__> mhall119|work, gartral  was hardware the only solution you had?
[20:04] <RealKillaz> as sooon as I create a new user the root user is removed!
[20:04] <simran> i tried swf...it was the same
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> simran: not quite buit its getting better
[20:04] <mhall119|work> simran: it'll run YouTube I think
[20:04] <ircyop> Hello, I need some help.  I made my /boot partition a seperate partition, and only have it sized at about 70 megs, but it runs out of space for updates after time.  What can I do to merge the partitions, can I use a symbolic link or something?
[20:04] <RealKillaz> is this a known issue in mysql-server?
[20:04] <simran> hmm
[20:04] <RealKillaz> on ubuntu?
[20:04] <simran> any limitations compared to adobe?
[20:04] <mhall119|work> ircyop: you can tell APT to download packages to the other partition
[20:04] <Hamidreza> is there anyone to tell me about Xwindows ???????????????
[20:04] <mhall119|work> simran: of course
[20:04] <puff> raylu:  The end of the file appears to just stop arbitrarily.
[20:05] <ircyop> mhall119|work, Does ubuntu normaly download packages to /boot ?
[20:05] <jMyles> Is there a utility like top that will show bandwidth use of each process?
[20:05] <bdelin88> anyone who could help me with vsftpd?  i am not able to get any help anywhere else
[20:05] <david__> is anyone burning +R dvd's with Ibex? and what are you using to do so?
[20:05] <guntbert> genii: the :<portnumber>  part was new for me, thx
[20:05] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: i've plugged in a wired connection, but it does not automatically go online
[20:05] <Halitech> bdelin88, what kind of issue are you having?
[20:06] <genii> guntbert: np
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:06] <RealKillaz> so creating a user in the database of mysql deletes the root user.
[20:06] <Jake1> Hi, I'm using 9.04 64bit. Mysql fails to start when I do "sudo /etc/init.d start". Nothing shows up in the mysql logs in /var/log/mysql. Any ideas on where I _should_ be looking?
[20:06] <bdelin88> i did an apt-get update the other day (i looked in the logs and didn't see any vsftpd related info) then all of a sudden these errors are now showing up after never having any issues: http://paste2.org/p/398188.  So i went ahead and purged/removed vsftpd and redid the config again... same issues are now occuring
[20:06] <bdelin88> Halitech: sorry, this will be better for you: i did an apt-get update the other day (i looked in the logs and didn't see any vsftpd related info) then all of a sudden these errors are now showing up after never having any issues: http://paste2.org/p/398188.  So i went ahead and purged/removed vsftpd and redid the config again... same issues are now occuring
[20:06] <ircyop> mhall119|work, Does ubuntu normaly download packages to /boot ?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: no, debs go to /var/cache/apt
[20:07] <raylu> puff: no idea then, sorry
[20:07] <puff> raylu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/258846/
[20:07] <raylu> puff: perhaps dmesg has something to say
[20:07] <Purpley> I've got a question, how do i start a program through the terminal
[20:07] <puff> raylu Thanks anyway... IIRC, it happened just as I triple-clicked on a paragraph in firefox to select the entire paragraph for copying.  But before I could copy, boom.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Purpley: type its name, use tab to complete
[20:08] <elninja> Anyone have any suggestions for configuring preferred wifi networks system-wide, rather than on a per-user basis?
[20:08] <Purpley> ive tryed
[20:08] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: the output was "* Reconfiguring network interfaces                [ OK ]", but it's still not online
[20:08] <Purpley> tried
[20:08] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, Then what do I do to have it stop always running out of space on /boot when it does kernel related or something like that updates
[20:08]  * puff wishes dmesg had timestamps.
[20:08] <Halitech> bdelin88, strange, it allows you to connect but times out .. are you using passive mode in the ftp program?
[20:08] <Purpley> wait
[20:08] <eurythmia> alright ... now the only ports I have open are 80 (apache), 22(ssh), and 8010 (kopete) ... excellent.
[20:08] <mhall119|work> ircyop: no, to /var/cache/apt
[20:08] <Purpley> never mind
[20:08] <Purpley> thank you
[20:09] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, Then what do I do to have it stop always running out of space on /boot when it does kernel related or something like that updates mhall119|work
[20:09] <Purpley> i used a wild card instead of tab :)
[20:09] <bucky> ircyop, you might have installed something accidently to /boot
[20:09] <stereoit2> hi, testing 9.10 my gconfd-2 process runs 20% of my CPU all the time, any hints how to troubleshoot?
[20:09] <ircyop> bucky, I didn't
[20:09] <ircyop> I just see
[20:09] <bucky> ircyop, especially if your updates are flagged automatic
[20:09] <ircyop> vmm-linuz
[20:09] <bdelin88> Halitech: i have tried both
[20:09] <ircyop> and some different versions of it on the /boot
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: then if you read through    dpkg -l | less     you can uninstall useless apps
[20:10] <bdelin88> Halitech: the REALLY strange thing is that winscp and filezilla bother get the same errors... also, the vsftpd log shows an OK LOGIN
[20:10] <bucky> ircyop, but ubumtoo likes to rebuild the initrd.img everytime something new happens
[20:10] <Purpley> also what combination stops a proccess in the terminal without ending the window?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: sudo apt-get clean     is a good way to get back space. you can also uninstall old kernels to harvest 100mb a kernel
[20:10] <mhall119|work> ircyop: ircyop create a new file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ that contains: Dir::Cache::Archives "/home/$wherever"
[20:10] <bdelin88> Halitech: i have got nowhere to turn right now and vsftpd chat is dead
[20:11] <bucky> ircyop, apt-get clean to clean out the apt cache
[20:11] <Purpley> i cant find what it is again
[20:11] <mhall119|work> ircyop: you can also limit the number of old kernels that are kept, but I don't recall how
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Purpley: run the command with an & on the end, will give you the terminal control but the app will run
[20:11] <ircyop> mhall119|work, a file?
[20:11] <mhall119|work> ircyop: run apt-get clean first
[20:11] <ircyop> a certain ffile name
[20:11] <Purpley> thanks <3 lol
[20:11] <bucky> ircyop, du -h /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:11] <mhall119|work> ircyop: yeah, I named mine 02homecache
[20:11] <tjc> bdelin88, Halitech : I've used vsftpd a tiny bit, what seems to be the problem ?
[20:11] <Halitech> bdelin88, just looking at filezilla on my ftp connections to see if anything pops out at me, will check my vsftp conf in a sec
[20:11] <bucky> ircyop, how much crap do you have in there?
[20:11] <bdelin88> tjc: i did an apt-get update the other day (i looked in the logs and didn't see any vsftpd related info) then all of a sudden these errors are now showing up after never having any issues: http://paste2.org/p/398188.  So i went ahead and purged/removed vsftpd and redid the config again... same issues are now occuring
[20:12] <mhall119|work> ircyop: run apt-get clean before you make the file, then apt-get update after
[20:12] <bdelin88> Halitech: thank you, also could you see if yours is sending the "FEAT" command?  because both clients disconnect after sending that command and nothing returns from the command either
[20:13] <ircyop> http://pastebin.org/11704
[20:13] <bdelin88> Halitech: if posting my apt log from the past couple of days would help i can put that on a paste
[20:13] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: the output was "* Reconfiguring network interfaces                [ OK ]", but it's still not online
[20:13] <tjc> bdelin88, do you have a server side log by any chance ?
[20:13] <bdelin88> tjc: yes, are you looking for the vsftpd log
[20:13] <Halitech> bdelin88, yes, mine sends the FEAT command and then gives a bunch of responses
[20:14] <bdelin88> Halitech: yes, i am getting NO responses from the feat command
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: in the output of ifconfig   do you see a valid ip address for your network?
[20:14] <tjc> yes, would you be able to show me that ?
[20:14] <bdelin88> tjc: here is my log file... it's the same for the past few days: http://paste2.org/p/398202
[20:15] <Purpley> what is the best file format for the swap area?
[20:15] <bdelin88> tjc: that's the strange thing is that it checks out
[20:15] <lion_> hi folks, how to disable menu bar in terminal ?
[20:15] <bucky> Purpley, swap file system
[20:15] <tjc> bdelin88, do you use PAM for authentication? did you see anything strange in /var/log/messages ( or wherever it logs into ;)
[20:15] <Purpley> k
[20:15] <bdelin88> tjc: PAM?
[20:16] <Purpley> sorry for being a noob in those parts :)
[20:16] <ircyop> mhall119|work, Dir::Cache::Archives "/home/cache/"
[20:16] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: i se "inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>" and "Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:16] <j2daosh> hey all, anyone got some docs on how to get my wireless card recognized and then get it to connect to a wireless router?
[20:16] <bdelin88> Halitech: an sftp login works just fine by the way... but I don't think my sftp is run by vsftp...don't ask, i have no idea how that got set up in the beginning... i also tried disabling shorewall but that didn't change a thing
[20:16] <tjc> my vsftpd used to use pam by default...
[20:16] <ircyop> mhall119|work, E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02homecache:2: Extra junk at end of file
[20:16] <mhall119|work> ircyop: and mkdir /home/cache
[20:16] <ircyop> did
[20:16] <mhall119|work> ircyop: woops, sorry, should be a semi-colon at the end of the line
[20:16] <i_am_null> How can I tell if php running under apache compiled as a module?
[20:16] <bdelin88> tjc: i just know that vsftpd has worked fine for 3 months since install and then all of a sudden after no personal changes to the config or anything it no longer works
[20:16] <tjc> ah, I missed the point here I guess :D
[20:17] <Purpley> OH also
[20:17] <RealKillaz> one more time. Hope you can help I'm installing mysql-server-5.0 package. After installing this package as soon as I create a new user it removes the root user
[20:17] <Purpley> When i put my computer into hibernation
[20:17] <RealKillaz> why is this happening?
[20:17] <Purpley> and i try to resume it
[20:17] <Halitech> bdelin88, the firewall isn't part of the issue (I don't think) sftp is a seperate program
[20:17] <Purpley> nothing will happen until i press the power button
[20:17] <bdelin88> Halitech: gotcha
[20:17] <ircyop> mhall119|work, K updating
[20:17] <Purpley> then a blinking underline will flash
[20:17] <bdelin88> Halitech: well it is not part of the issue for sure cuz i disabled it and receive the same errors
[20:17] <mhall119|work> Purpley: hitting the power button is what wakes your computer up from hibernation
[20:18] <Purpley> i only see a _ that blinks
[20:18] <Halitech> bdelin88, if it was the firewall it wouldn't let you in at all
[20:18] <jMyles> How can I view the bandwidth being used by each process?
[20:18] <mhall119|work> Purpley: it takes a while sometimes
[20:18] <Purpley> ooooh
[20:18] <ircyop> mhall119|work, Still cant update newest updates
[20:18] <Purpley> i thought it would be instant lol
[20:18] <ircyop> mhall119|work, not enough room in /boot
[20:18] <mhall119|work> Purpley: as long as a cold boot, sometimes
[20:18] <mhall119|work> ircyop: try removing some older kernels then in synaptic
[20:18] <Purpley> oh
[20:18] <Halitech> bdelin88, did you remove the vsftpd.conf file before you reinstalled?
[20:18] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: i se "inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>" and "Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>"
[20:18] <ircyop> mhall119|work, I normaly do that
[20:19] <Purpley> well a cold boot is fast aswell compared to windows
[20:19] <ircyop> mhall119|work, I want to make it so I dont have too anymore
[20:19] <mhall119|work> ircyop: then you might need to use gparted to resize your partitions
[20:19] <diamantino> hallo
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: thats the loopback
[20:19] <bdelin88> Halitech: yes, then i also did a purge so that it would reload the default config (it did), then i made the necessary changes
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[20:19] <julle_> I have exactly this bug or problem, is there any solution, i cant stream videos or listen to streamed radio https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/418064
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: run uname -r to see your running kernel and DO NOT uninstall that one
[20:19] <Halitech> bdelin88, hmmm, I'm not sure
[20:20] <bdelin88> Halitech: do you want to see my config file maybe?
[20:20] <diamantino> help me i have radeon 1950 and after bnstalation linux drivers my ubuntu 9.04 begin going down
[20:20] <Halitech> bdelin88, sure, I'll compare it to mine
[20:20] <bdelin88> 1 sec
[20:20] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.org/11708
[20:20] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: so that is not what you meant?
[20:20] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, 2.6.29-1-netbook
[20:20] <pythovore> how can i find out what user is running my process?  (it happens to be a django process in question)
[20:21] <diamantino> people who can use ubuntu 9.04 with ati radeon?
[20:21] <Halitech> diamantino, did you install the ati catalyst drivers?
[20:21] <bdelin88> Halitech: keep in mind i don't have any fancy home directory setup... the only thing i use it for is /var/www/ here it is: http://paste2.org/p/398211
[20:21] <diamantino> yes
[20:21] <i_am_null> How can I tell if php running under apache compiled as a module?
[20:21] <diamantino> from ati web site
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: if you are using the netbook kernel you can uninstall linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic and linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic if you do not use them
[20:21] <Halitech> diamantino, don't, they don't work in 9.04
[20:21] <tjc> bdelin88, did you try to run it with the log_ftp_protocol enabled ?
[20:22] <Halitech> bdelin88, ok, give me a sec
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: your eth0 device needs a valid IP
[20:22] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, through synaptic
[20:22] <diamantino> o
[20:22] <diamantino> i see it
[20:22] <bdelin88> tjc: no, how do i do that
[20:22] <diamantino> but where is normal driver
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: use network manager to tell your system to use eth0
[20:22] <j2daosh> i need to completely reconfigure my network and network settings, how can I do that?
[20:22] <tjc> bdelin88, you'd have to put log_ftpd_protocol=YES to your config
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[20:23] <bdelin88> tjc: where does that log output go to?
[20:23] <diamantino> so hey people who knerw where is normal radeon drivers,
[20:23] <tjc> bdelin88, need to check, brb.
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !ati | diamantino
[20:24] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, Doing so
[20:24] <Purpley> diamantino,   search in  package manager for raedon
[20:24] <morbyte> hi. is there a way to find out if my labtop is sata-1 or sata-2 compatible?
[20:24] <Purpley> i dont believe raedon makes drivers for linux
[20:24] <tjc> bdelin88, i've made a mistake : it should say log_ftp_protocol=YES
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Purpley: ati make catalysts for linux
[20:24] <Halitech> bdelin88, only thing I see different is the last 6 lines on your conf file I don't have
[20:25] <Purpley> oh sorry
[20:25] <diamantino> o but i need 3d in linux
[20:25] <Purpley> I didnt think they would
[20:25] <diamantino> so i need nirmal drivers
[20:25] <j1nn> hi all
[20:25] <bdelin88> tjc: trying that again
[20:25] <Halitech> diamantino, then drop back to 8.04 or 8.10
[20:25] <tjc> bdelin88, It went to /var/log/vsftpd.log on my machine
[20:25] <Purpley> What is a good benchmarking software for linux?
[20:26] <j1nn> i need some help with weird problem: my asus stopped suspending.. i even cannot think about where to look. syslog show nothing.
[20:26] <Adam-85> Peace be upon you
[20:26] <diamantino> o
[20:26] <Adam-85> I need help with my sound
[20:26] <tjc> also got a warning in /var/log/messages ( vsftpd using 32-bit capabilities)
[20:26] <diamantino> but my be there is free driver from somebody
[20:27] <Halitech> diamantino, there is the radeon and radeonhd drivers which you are probably already using
[20:27] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: it doesn't look like my ubuntu has anything called network manager.. it has "network connections" and "network tools", but i can't find anything about eth0 to change in either of those
[20:27] <Adam-85> My sound stopped and i cannt hear any sound
[20:27] <diamantino> are there 3d in radeon hd drivers?
[20:27] <Adam-85> Ubuntu 9.04
[20:27] <GPL> whenever i start Vdrift it doesnt starts in Fullscreen :( and that i tried to use OSgrid Virtual Reality Simulation, that too.. and tat it flickers a lot, what could be the problem
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: try a reboot it may pick it up
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[20:27] <izeazal> hi all. im on a fresh install and i seem to have sound everywhere else but firefox. is it because i have two sound cards and a usb headset connected? ive gone through the 'control panel' and set my default sound device already. any ideas?
[20:27] <vishal> hi all
[20:27] <vishal> does anyone know if there is any good tool to figure out the exact memory usage of a linux process?
[20:27] <j1nn> someone can think about any reason why suspend/hibernate simple stops working?... no kernel update was made. ubuntu 9.04
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> vishal: top
[20:28] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: i have rebooted it several times, but it's never had network manager
[20:28] <bdelin88> tjc: hmm, no new log messages and the log for the ftp client is still the same
[20:29] <bdelin88> Halitech: did you get a chance to compare those configs by the way?
[20:29] <diamantino> ùð
[20:29] <diamantino> oh
[20:29] <izeazal> http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=28_screenshot440.png http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=28_screenshot-1388.png  http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=28_screenshot-2891.png  http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=28_screenshot-3.png i click test and i hear sound fine. i run vlc or rhythmbox and i hear sound fine. this is a fresh install. i have not even installed any packages or did any customization yet
[20:29] <tjc> bdelin88, I'm unable to reproduce this, I responded fine to my FEAT
[20:29] <diamantino> are there free 3d driver for legacy ati from sombody?
[20:30] <izeazal> its just firefox where i dont get sound
[20:30] <Halitech> bdelin88, yes and it was just the last 6 lines of yours that is extra to mine
[20:30] <TechCode> #linuxac
[20:30] <tjc> bdelin88, I'm using version version 2.0.7
[20:30] <vishal> well top shows the percentage of memory usage and more so I have read in some blogs that VMSize and all it shows is the total memory allocated and not the usgae
[20:30] <vishal> usage*
[20:30] <bdelin88> Halitech: tjc: I have a new addition to my ftp client log file: http://paste2.org/p/398225
[20:31] <Bonsao> ActionParsnip: is there any command line input to open the network manager
[20:31] <Bonsao> ?
[20:31] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.org/11711
[20:32] <bdelin88> Halitech: tjc: it now says "EPRT"
[20:32] <bdelin88> Halitech: is there a better ftp client i should use?
[20:32] <bdelin88> Halitech: i mean ftp program... other than vsftpd?
[20:33] <bjorkintosh> bdelin88, there's always the commandline program
[20:33] <damn_> Is it possible to substitute the systembeep with a soundfile?
[20:33] <bjorkintosh> also sftp
[20:33] <Halitech> bdelin88, I use vsftpd and filezilla with no problems
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> ircyop: you need to work out why you aer getting those errors
[20:33] <bucky> ActionParsnip ircyop FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.28-13-generic
[20:33] <bdelin88> damn_: just disable that annoying beep
[20:33] <bdelin88> damn_: google it
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Bonsao: system -> prefs -> network connections    should do it
[20:34] <tjc> bdelin88, I like http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd
[20:34] <Halitech> damn_, pop the cover and unhook the speaker wire
[20:34] <bdelin88> Halitech: hmm... could you paste your config file that i could try out?
[20:34] <vishal> of a process?
[20:34] <damn_> bdelin88, but i dont want to deactivate it (sudo modprobe -r pcspkr) i want to substitute it
[20:34] <laryllan> is there an alsa power user here?
[20:34] <Halitech> bdelin88, just delete the last 6 lines of your current, identical other then that
[20:35] <ircyop> ActionParsnip, bucky No idea, I used sudo
[20:35]  * ircyop checks boot
[20:35] <bdelin88> Halitech: alright i will try it, thanks
[20:35] <bucky> ActionParsnip ircyop FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.28-13-generic'  that's the show stopper
[20:35] <Halitech> bdelin88, here's mine if you want to look http://paste.ubuntu.com/258862/
[20:36] <ircyop> there is no 13 I think
[20:36] <diamantino> ok people please help me i decide to bye new videocard what videocard is work with ubuntu 9.04 in 3d mode?
[20:36] <bdelin88> tjc: I noticed a pam_service_name=vsftpd maybe this is the PAM thing you're talking about?
[20:36] <Halitech> diamantino, Nvidia
[20:36] <laryllan> any newer nvidia card
[20:36] <bdelin88> Halitech: thanks again!
[20:36] <diamantino> but i bye ati all my life
[20:36] <Adam-85> how to fix my sound
[20:36] <diamantino> may be 4870 has 3d there
[20:36] <ircyop> FSCK IT
[20:36] <Halitech> diamantino, do you want to buy a new card every 6 months?
[20:36] <Adam-85> my sound stopped in my system and with firefox also no sound
[20:37] <ircyop> im just going to reinstall
[20:37] <diamantino> i love ubuntu and im redy to do it
[20:37] <bdelin88> diamantino: another reason why ati sucks
[20:37] <ersoy> hi, i have got a problem. i cant connect 1394 port my camera, how can i do?
[20:37] <laryllan> crowded here^^
[20:38] <legend2440> !sound | Adam-85
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> bucky: try: sudo touch /boot/System.map-2.6.28-13-generic
[20:38] <henrifromtexhoma> can an lvm mounted system be cloned with gparted to a second drive? as with a simple partion?
[20:39] <tjc> bdelin88, yes, most probably that is used for authentication on your machine
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> bucky: then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get -f install
[20:39] <michael_> I moved my / partition (containing the /boot folder) to a different partition, yet grub still wants to look in the old partition for stage2 and my menu.lst - what do I need to change? btw here is a pastebin of a few of my boot-related files http://pastebin.com/f3b6564e9
[20:39] <tjc> bdelin88, but this is irrelevant to your issue it would appear.
[20:40] <diamantino> so if i bye ati 4870 will it work in 3d in ubuntu 9.04?
[20:40] <ersoy> !1394
[20:40] <ersoy> !ieee1394
[20:40] <michael_> !firewire ?
[20:40] <michael_> oh hm it added the ?
[20:40] <Halitech> diamantino, it should for now http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.36&lang=English
[20:41] <ersoy> !kino
[20:41] <j2daosh> ok, screw it. I am going to reinstall ubuntu so it actually works. Does the newest version actually detect a wirless card and make it work?
[20:41] <diamantino> seks
[20:41] <diamantino> senks
[20:41] <bucky> ActionParsnip, ircyop was the one that had the problem and pasted the error to you
[20:41] <bdelin88> diamantino: if you're buying an expensive ati card so that ubuntu will look pretty or because you want to play games on ubuntu... you're probably switching to ubuntu for the wrong reasons
[20:42] <cordob27> hola
[20:42] <Halitech> the ati 4870 is more expensive then I paid for my entire system upgrade
[20:42] <diamantino> i wont to use free soft its my way in life
[20:42] <abhishek> can anyone help me install wine in ubuntu...plsss
[20:42] <Ben64> diamantino: lots of cards support 3d in linux
[20:43] <diamantino> nvidia is big company
[20:43] <Ben64> abhishek: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[20:43] <diamantino> if ati died
[20:43] <bdelin88> diamantino: free software=shitty games
[20:43] <bdelin88> as much as i love ubuntu... i would never use ubuntu to play games
[20:43] <Halitech> abhishek, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[20:43] <diamantino> nvidia take all market and all grafikscards will be bad and very eexpencive
[20:43] <Ben64> i use ubuntu to play games : /
[20:44] <diamantino> i play only wow
[20:44] <bdelin88> diamantino: just being real with you... don't switch to ubuntu cuz you want to play games or use compiz... that's a waste of money on a graphics card
[20:44] <michael_> Ben64: me too. I like foss games just fine.
[20:44] <diamantino> so i neeed to start it in ubuntu
[20:44] <Ben64> i use ubuntu to play ffxi :D
[20:44] <bdelin88> diamantino: lol... and a personal recomendation don't upgrade to that expensive graphics card to play WOW c'mon man
[20:45] <Ben64> diamantino: also, nvidia has better linux support
[20:45] <bdelin88> i'm sorry, but ubuntu gaming will never be like windows gaming with the DX monopoly and having to reverse engineer everything
[20:45] <abhishek> thanks....I see them
[20:45] <diamantino> so and which card i can bye to play wow in ubuntu,
[20:45] <diamantino> ?
[20:45] <rizitis> I love ubuntu because Linux is better ! http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[20:45] <bdelin88> diamantino: if wow is all you play just get like a 7000 or 8000 series nvidia card
[20:46] <bdelin88> i just personally could not switch to linux as much as i wanted to
[20:46] <diamantino> o
[20:46] <Ben64> bdelin88: protip: the more people that play games on linux, the more games to feature linux support
[20:46] <bdelin88> i love it and everything...but the support is just not there...no photoshop, no blackberry support without major hackign around... lots of stuff
[20:46] <diamantino> else i use video player and videoediting and photoediting
[20:46] <Ben64> bdelin88: photoshop works fine
[20:46] <bdelin88> Ben64: i agree... but you're talking about 15% market share and highe
[20:46] <Halitech> what about the GeForce 9600gt? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4111742&Sku=E145-9504
[20:47] <bdelin88> Ben64: under wine and probably not correctly and probably not CS4
[20:47] <diamantino> ok senks very mutch
[20:47] <bdelin88> Halitech: but we're talking WOW here... :)
[20:47] <diamantino> i bye 250gt may be
[20:47] <Ben64> bdelin88: "probably"...."probably" why don't you find some facts?
[20:47] <Chris220> bdelin88: But who needs photoshop when you have GIMP? ;)
[20:47] <diamantino> i think it will be good
[20:47] <jmite> I was wondering, does anybody know which programs make the biggest difference when they're compiled and optimized for your architechture?
[20:47] <intel352> hey all, i'm trying to configure "twinview" style functionality on an ubuntu 9 machine that has an ATI vid card, and a USB2VGA dongle (2 monitor setup, #1 running on the ATI onboard, #2 running on the dongle using sisusb driver)
[20:47] <intel352> if I enable xinerama, X fails while trying to enable nvidia for some reason (which is a PCI card I have installed during my experiments trying to get dual-monitors working), if I disable xinerama, I get 2 working displays without the ability to drag windows across displays...  (using the dongle & onboard ATI)
[20:47] <intel352> thoughts?
[20:47] <Halitech> bdelin88, don't know, I don't play games on my computer, I use my game consoles for that :D
[20:47] <FloodBot3> intel352: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47] <bdelin88> Chris220: because gimp, as cool as it is... is garbage
[20:48] <Chris220> bdelin88: Garbage? I beg to differ
[20:48] <GECKBeginner> hi.
[20:48] <rizitis> +1 Chris220
[20:48] <bdelin88> Chris220: to add shadow effects to layers you have to install additional components...that should be built in
[20:48] <GECKBeginner> Where can I get a beta of Karmic Koala?
[20:48] <Halitech> bdelin88, personally I like GIMP better then photoshop
[20:48] <t0s> how can i fix this error on apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/258868/
[20:48] <bdelin88> Halitech: it just doesn't have the same capabilities
[20:49] <Chris220> bdelin88: Or you could just dupe the layer, fill the shape with black and guassian (sp?) blur it.
[20:49] <Chris220> bdelin88: Offset it a bit if you need
[20:49] <Ben64> i like photoshop better, just because that's what i'm used to. if i grew up using gimp, i'm sure i'd like it better
[20:49] <bdelin88> Chris220: that's just a hack to get around it... that's not functionality
[20:49] <kuzux> hey
[20:49] <rizitis> ! karmic koala
[20:49] <Chris220> bdelin88: ... Erm, no. I'm sorry, but no.
[20:49] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today
[20:50] <kuzux> and it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox
[20:50] <bdelin88> whoever was griping at me about photoshop proof, here: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14318
[20:50] <ersoy> !pasta
[20:50] <ersoy> !paste
[20:50] <Chris220> bdelin88: That's called having a bit of skill with the program to do more than just using plugins.
[20:50] <hassanakevazir> t0s, have added something from launchpad repos to you /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[20:50] <kuzux> it shows up in the desktop, i can see the files in nautilus
[20:50] <bdelin88> Chris220: photoshop has that included...
[20:50] <kuzux> but rhythmbox does not seem to recognize it
[20:50] <Chris220> bdelin88: if you rely on plugins to do something that simple, then you won't get very far.
[20:50] <bdelin88> Chris220: again... "photoshop has that included"
[20:50] <uli> hi guys, i've got a strange problem, i want to use the b43-fwcutter script, which gets some data from openwrt.org. somehow my pc is unable to reach their homepage while my laptop next to me does... and if i use one of those web-based proxys it also works... anybody got an idea why this could be?
[20:50] <bdelin88> automatic shadowing
[20:50] <t0s> hassanakevazir, yes, should i remove it?
[20:51] <jmite> did anybody have ideas about my compiling question?
[20:51] <ersoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/258870/ <<-- what is the mean? ubuntu not support 1394 drivers?
[20:51] <Chris220> bdelin88: And also, what do you think the plugin does? Just automates the same process you'd do as, what you called, my "hack".
[20:51] <Ben64> bdelin88: looks like it's rated gold for certain wine versions
[20:51] <Halitech> bdelin88, and how much does photoshop cost? compared to a little time to add a few plugins in get what you want in gimp
[20:51] <GECKBeginner> When can I beta test Karmic Koala?
[20:51] <GECKBeginner> :p
[20:51] <Ben64> Halitech: i'm sure he's talking about stealing photoshop
[20:51] <GECKBeginner> It comes out in 2 months.
[20:51] <GECKBeginner> :p
[20:52] <bdelin88> Halitech: that's fine... but i'm a developer, photoshop is a necessity
[20:52] <|OLLIE|> uli, banned ip? Does the laptop have a different internet connection?
[20:52] <Halitech> Ben64, borrowing, I prefer the term borrowing ;)
[20:52] <hassanakevazir> t0s, no, not if you need it, you need to add their key. Go to the page you got it from, and follow this guide: https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[20:52] <uli> ollie, no they are both connected to the same network
[20:52] <Halitech> bdelin88, the functionality is, not the program
[20:52] <bdelin88> Ben64: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14318&iTestingId=41639
[20:52] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[20:52] <bucky> jmite, 99% of the programs are -O2 by default anyway and the difference going up from there is negligible
[20:52] <t0s> hassanakevazir, ok thanks
[20:52] <bdelin88> Halitech: yes...and the functionality does not exist in gimp
[20:52] <|OLLIE|> then yes, that is very strange. The only thing i can think of is some sort of outgoing firewall on your "blocked" machine.
[20:53] <Ben64> bdelin88: "Gold"
[20:53] <Chris220> bdelin88: You're missing the point, I believe, of having a program that gives you all these tools. You're not meant to just use plugins for everything, and doing something manually is certainly not "a hack"
[20:53] <bdelin88> Ben64: there are font display issues
[20:53] <|OLLIE|> or maybe even a cached bad DNS result.
[20:53] <Halitech> bdelin88, not natively but most things can be added with plugins or scripts
[20:53] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[20:53] <bdelin88> I'm just saying... for everytime i want to add a shadow to have to control it in that way is just not...right... that's a hack for something that should be there
[20:54] <abhishek> can anyone tell me which programming language is used to create ubuntu???
[20:54] <bdelin88> plus too photoshop keeps the shadows angles globally which is much better for mainting shadow and light
[20:54] <|OLLIE|> visual basic lol
[20:54] <Chris220> bdelin88: How can you call it a hack, when the whole idea of the program is to be creative and do things like that in your own way?
[20:54] <bucky> abhishek, C for the most part
[20:54] <bdelin88> Chris220: look i'm just sayin man... those things take time to do... something that can be done in photoshop with a checkmark
[20:55] <Halitech> bdelin88, right, not right is all subjective, what is "not right" to you may seem natural to someone else
[20:55] <abhishek> oks bucky thankz
[20:55] <Chris220> bdelin88: Well if you're not willing to spend time on things like this, you won't end up with a quality product. That's what I'm saying.
[20:55] <jmite> bucky: okay, thanks!
[20:55] <bdelin88> Chris220: how will you not end up with a quality product
[20:56] <jibadeeha-> anyone here had success with connecting an ipod touch with Linux ... wife wants to buy one, but we only have ubuntu on our main machine and worried it won't work
[20:56] <sammy> does anyone know how I can tell grub where to find /grub/stage2 and menu.lst?
[20:56] <Chris220> bdelin88: Nothing good quality comes out of not spending time on it.
[20:56] <hassanakevazir> Does anyone know the command to mount a ext3 drive and one to unmount it? I am not looking for fstab lines, I need a command for terminal
[20:56] <IdleOne> bdelin88: you can make a Wishlist request @ launchpad.net
[20:56] <bdelin88> Chris220: lol instead of moving your shadows by hand they are precisely calculated in photoshop
[20:56] <jmite> bucky: -O2 means modeate optimization, right?
[20:56] <nikolaj_basher> Hi what kind of language is the best to learn c or c++ when you are in the linux world?
[20:56] <Halitech> bdelin88, don't think I'm ganging up on you, I believe in using the right tool (program) to get the job done, if thats photoshop for you then thats up to you, personally I like gimp and find I can do anything there that I could do in photoshop
[20:56] <sammy> I moved my root partition, and with it my /boot folder, but grub keeps looking on the old partition
[20:57] <Chris220> bdelin88: You'd rather let a program set where they are for you, instead of having per-pixel control?
[20:57] <bucky> jmite, http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html
[20:57] <bdelin88> Halitech: that's cool i understand... and i don't feel that way.. i just feel a certain way about linux in general... i love it but i hate it
[20:57] <bdelin88> i wish that it had enough market share to be supported by phone companies (blackberry) itunes.. all that stuff
[20:57] <bdelin88> adobe...
[20:58] <Chris220> bdelin88: Halitech's statement is also true for me. I believe in using the right tool for the job, and I don't think the right tool is plugins. That's all :)
[20:58] <Halitech> jibadeeha-, personally I would go with something else, ipods are touchy from what I've seen
[20:58] <hassanakevazir> sammy, so grub loads, gives you the menu but doesn't load ubuntu?
[20:58] <IdleOne> !adobe > bdelin88
[20:58] <IdleOne> hmmm
[20:58] <Chris220> Halitech: Oh course they're touchy, it's a touch screen ;)
[20:58] <sammy> hassanakevazir: check out this pastebin #
[20:58] <sammy>  => Grub0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive
[20:58] <sammy> #
[20:58] <morphias> Hi I am having trouble using my USB gaming controller in any video game...
[20:58] <Chris220> s/oh/of
[20:58] <bdelin88> Chris220: i don't think it's plugins either... i said that the shadowing tool comes WITH photoshop and is NOT included in gimp
[20:58]  * FastZ is away: Away from keyboard
[20:58] <Ben64> sammy: where did you move the "/" partition from and to?
[20:58] <Halitech> Chris220, smarty pants ~L~
[20:58] <sammy> whoops. sorry everyone. http://pastebin.com/f3b6564e9
[20:58] <Chris220> Halitech: :D
[20:58] <jibadeeha-> Halitech, i think you are right ... i am not a big fan of Apple products
[20:58] <morphias> i can diagnose it with jstest but vba, snes, and other games arent able to use it for some reason...
[20:58] <sammy> Ben64: from /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda7
[20:59] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[20:59] <henrifromtexhoma> eubie
[20:59] <Chris220> bdelin88: That tool == A plugin. In the end, they do the same thing.
[20:59] <bdelin88> Halitech: yes...but i like my ipod that someone bought for me and although it works fine with ubuntu... i prefer i tunes
[20:59] <henrifromtexhoma> oops wront window
[20:59] <Halitech> jibadeeha-, I have 3 'no name' players that all work with Amarok or I can just drag and drop files onto
[20:59] <sammy> and if I do a manual install of grub, using (hd0) and (hd0,6) it installs to the right place and looks in the right place. but ubuntu's automatic grub updater breaks it after the kernel is updated
[20:59] <abhishek> is there any difference between kubuntu and ubuntu??? coz I hv kubuntu CD, ran it few times but still apart of visuals I cudnt found mch diffference
[20:59] <jmite> bucky: perfect. thanks!!!
[21:00] <morphias> Can someone help me with a USB gaming controller issue?
[21:00] <Halitech> bdelin88, to each their own :)
[21:00] <bdelin88> Halitech: i am also becoming very attached to WIN7
[21:00] <Ben64> sammy: well why did you move /
[21:00] <MaGicMaX> dgh
[21:00] <bdelin88> Halitech: :)
[21:00] <asg> abhishek: kbuntu is KDE based, ubuntu is GNOME based. Otherwise, they are the same.
[21:00] <Halitech> bdelin88, blasphamy, go say 10 hail marys and repent and Win no more
[21:00] <MaGicMaX> how can i configure my Sessions Preferences? its not in System > Preferences.
[21:01] <bdelin88> Halitech: i tried the all ubuntu switch.. it just didn't work out
[21:01] <Ben64> bdelin88 is undercover microsoft agent
[21:01] <Chris220> Halitech: Haha, I couldn't have put it better myself!
[21:01] <bdelin88> Ben64: ^ read above
[21:01] <abhishek> thanz asg...
[21:01] <Halitech> bdelin88, and offer your ipod up to our lord Linus
[21:01] <hassanakevazir> sammy, run from a live cd, run : update-grub . should work
[21:01] <bdelin88> I blazed over an entire ubuntu book
[21:01] <sammy> Ben64: I appreciate the help, but that's not terribly helpful :) it's been moved and it can't be moved back. sda1 is too small. grub and linux can handle me moving the root partition, but I need to tell ubuntu somewhere else that I have moved it.
[21:01] <bdelin88> trust me... i am looking for alternatives
[21:01] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[21:01] <Halitech> abhishek, just the visuals are differnet due to the desktop that is installed
[21:02] <Ben64> sammy: you can move just /boot there
[21:02] <Chris220|afk> afk
[21:02] <sammy> hassanakevazir: from a live-cd? why would that work and running it from the installed OS wont?
[21:02] <GPL> why does my screen flicker , when i use Hippo OpenSim Viewer, or play Vdrift, and why does it opens in Window'ed mode and not Full Screen mode :(
[21:02] <bdelin88> i don't like to be limited by what software i can and cannot install... and until i can install the same program on linux (without wine) that i can on window$ then it just is not going to work
[21:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:02] <Ben64> bdelin88: what's so bad about wine?
[21:02] <sammy> Ben64: you're right, but I shouldn't have to :) sda1 is going to be the new swap partition when this finally works.
[21:02] <abhishek> what is KDE in a simple words plss tell me.....if any1
[21:03] <Ben64> sammy: just doesn't make sense why you moved your root partition
[21:03] <bdelin88> Ben64: wine is just a hack...although it is one hell of a program
[21:03] <Ben64> bdelin88: the internet is a hack, best not use that
[21:03] <Ben64> also email
[21:03] <GPL> abhishek, it's a Desktop Environment
[21:03] <bieleke> guys i got a problem with my monitors
[21:03] <IdleOne> bdelin88: if you would like to discuss usability of linux compared to windows by the "regular" end user please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:03] <bdelin88> Ben64: do not get me wrong... i am AMAZED and what the linux community has done having to reverse engineer so much windows and proprietary crap... i just want to see the day that it can all work together without so much of that
[21:03] <bieleke> i activated xinerama, and now my screens are swapped
[21:03] <hassanakevazir> sammy, ok nvm, I guess I don't understand your question then
[21:03] <sammy> Ben64: "sda1 is too small" I've been using linux for 10+ years, I moved the partition with good intentions :P
[21:03] <IdleOne> !ot
[21:03] <abhishek> GPL can you give me an example of it....some other destop environment..i mean
[21:03] <TuxOtaku> hey quick question, I'm installing grub onto a USB stick, and I want to know what I would need to add to my menu.lst in order to have a "boot from first hard drive" option
[21:04] <GPL> abhishek, like GNOME
[21:04] <maclebi> maclebi
[21:04] <bieleke> so screen 0 needs to be screen 1 and screen 1 needs to become screen 0
[21:04] <bieleke> how do i do that ?
[21:04] <celthunder> abhishek, it is a gui, same as xfce awesome or fluxbox
[21:04] <sammy> hassanakevazir: when I run update-grub, it updates the MBR with a stage1 that still looks in /dev/sda1 for stage1.5 and 2 and menu.lst
[21:04] <Ben64> sammy: you know, you could have resized sda1 ... and if you've been using linux for 10 years..... why can't you fix it?
[21:04] <bdelin88> IdleOne: that's just the thing though... i'm not a regular end user, I consider myself and advanced windows user... i haven't used anti-virus for the past 4 years and my system is fast and great...
[21:04] <didiermah> bonjour les gars
[21:04] <asg> abhishek: gnome.org, kde.org
[21:04] <bdelin88> but i am more attracted to linux
[21:05] <didiermah> jai un gros probleme$
[21:05] <Ben64> bdelin88: it's impossible to expect linux to be just like windows, thats not the goal
[21:05] <bdelin88> Ben64: i know, i do not want it to be... i just want to be able to install the same programs
[21:05] <Ben64> bdelin88: same thing
[21:05] <bdelin88> Ben64: not the same thing...
[21:05] <sammy> Ben64: yes, if there was any free space on sda I could have resized it. and as I said, I've been using linux for 10+ years, not ubuntu, and ubuntu is what's updating grub, not me. I'll be asking others for help now, thank you.
[21:06] <Ben64> bdelin88: if you want windows media player, internet explorer, then use windows
[21:06] <maclebi> hi, I've got a serious problem with bluetooth in my Jaunty, is there anyone who could help me ?
[21:06] <Ben64> bdelin88: if you want to use linux, find programs to do what you want
[21:06] <IdleOne> bdelin88: then if you are an and avanced user you could help make ubuntu better http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate please use #ubuntu-offtopic to continue this discussion. #ubuntu is for support only
[21:06] <didiermah> # join /ubuntu-fr
[21:06] <didiermah> hello
[21:06] <bdelin88> Ben64: photoshop is not windows... it is an adobe product that sells for mac and windows because they will not make money entering into the linux market (that's why the MMO EVE online backed out of its linux support)
[21:06] <IdleOne> didiermah: /join #ubuntu-fr
[21:06] <Ben64> sammy: ooh you've used linux for 10 years, so special, too bad linux knowledge doesn't translate into ubuntu??
[21:07] <bdelin88> Ben64: you can't seriously have just suggested windows media player and internet explorer... you know that's not what i am talking about Ben
[21:07] <hassanakevazir> sammy, ok got what you mean, I always just manually edit the menu.lst file, then at update time debconf asks you if you want to edit the file, I answer no, and edit the file so it points to the newest kernel
[21:07] <bdelin88> Ben64: that sounded like a linux purist attack
[21:07] <sammy> hassanakevazir: which its doing properly, for sure. I just don't know where to tell ubuntu that, when it updates grub, it looks in the new place. i might need to install grub using ubuntu's tools again, maybe that will update something.
 Ben64: i know, i do not want [linux] to be [windows]... i just want to be able to install the same programs
[21:08] <IdleOne> !ot | bdelin88 Ben64
[21:08] <milos_> is it working?
[21:08] <sammy> hassanakevazir: thanks for your help, though. there's a setting /somewhere/ and I just cant find it. it's an obscure one, so I'm probably just not looking hard enough.
[21:09] <abhishek> IS THE TERM DESTOP ENVIRONMENT WITH WINDOWS???
[21:09] <abhishek> i mean..does windows also hv any destop environement..
[21:09] <spO> can i move  multiple files with      mv ( file1 file3   direct4 )   /tothis/destintation ?
[21:09] <bjorkintosh> bdelin88, what on earth for?
[21:09] <ejv> spO: man mv
[21:09] <piccard> xargs as well
[21:10] <bdelin88> Ben64: lol you know what i'm talking about.. i'm not talking about programs created by microsoft specifically to sell with the windows OS... i am talking about photoshop... premier... itunes... office 2007... steam... gta4... and any sort of games
[21:10]  * grind1wqz slaps piccard vigorously about the head a kipper
[21:10] <ejv> spO: (hint: the FIRST line under description)
[21:10] <zopiac> trying to listen to death.fm internet radio stream on rhythmbox but after every song it loses connection, anyone know how to fix?
[21:10] <ejv> stop listening to death.fm ^_^
[21:10] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[21:11] <Shadowsss> ы
[21:11] <Shadowsss> всем привет!
[21:11] <jpds> Shadowsss: Hi.
[21:11] <maco> !ru | Shadowsss
[21:11] <jpds> !ru | Shadowsss
[21:11] <ubuntujenkins> hello, if i spell a word wrong in pigeon it underlines it in red. However if i right click to correct it and then click the correct word it doesn't work any thoughts anyone?
[21:12] <gartral> !ru | Shadowsss
[21:12] <Shadowsss> ээээээ
[21:12] <Shadowsss> я фигею
[21:12] <Ben64> sammy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:12] <jpds> !en | Shadowsss
[21:12] <gartral> !ru | Shadowsss
[21:12] <ejv> hey i can do that too! ??????????? ????????? ?????????
[21:12] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[21:12] <ejv> :D
[21:12] <Shadowsss> мдя
[21:12] <jpds> gartral: You're the fourth person to do that.
[21:12] <maco> gartral: ubottu's not going to repeat it
[21:12] <Shadowsss> пешите по-русский пейсатели!
[21:12] <ikonia> ejv: please stop making random noise in the channel, try to keep it to support discussion
[21:12] <ejv> i'll do what i want
[21:12] <ejv> kthx lol
[21:13] <IdleOne> ejv: I doubt it
[21:13] <kuzux> i've bought a creative zen mp3 player today but it doesn't seem to work with rhythmbox. it shows up in the desktop, but not on rhythmbox(or banshee, or gnomad2)
[21:13] <ikonia> ejv: no - please respect the rules
[21:13] <maco> ejv: not when an op tells you to
[21:13] <spO> how do i move multiple files to one destination?   can i do   mv (source1 source2 )  /todestination/  ?
[21:13] <Halitech> !patience| kuzux
[21:13]  * grind1wqz slaps Troll_Man vigorously about the head with a few fluffy pillows
[21:13] <sammy> Ben64: thank you, I was actually just reading that. it says all I have to do is update groot in /boot/grub/menu.lst, which I've done.
[21:13] <ikonia> spO: mc {file1,file2,file3} /dest
[21:13] <jpds> spO: mv thing0 thing1 dir/
[21:13] <ikonia> spO: "mv" sorry
[21:13] <ejv> pffft w/e's, wasn't making anymore noise than russian dude
[21:14] <maco> ejv: and russian person was kicked and banned
[21:14] <ejv> yea im over it, lets move on
[21:14] <guerda> hi folks! I have screenlets installed and i don't know an option for widget that you can find under window -> widget. This flag is not documentated. Could please someone tell me, what it means? Thanks in advance!
[21:15] <celthunder> kuzox, i think you can use that just like a normal drive...drag your mp3's too/from the volume on the desktop and it should work fine
[21:15] <diamantino> please help me
[21:15] <Grifulkin> Okay so I am at my girlfriends house and the internet on wire works fine but I can't get on wire very often because my Laptop is in the living room is there any way to make my connection better because right now it keeps dropping off when I download anything from an online server.
[21:16] <Grifulkin> And I'm on wireless
[21:16] <celthunder> grifulkin so it drops on the wire or on wireless
[21:16] <Grifulkin> celthunder, Wireless
[21:16] <diamantino> i have noutbook and all inside there from via (uh), will it normally work with ubuntu 9.04 ?
[21:16]  * gartral points celthunder to the previous seccond
[21:16] <NfuidS> Hi, I have this ubuntu server which was fine.. now, it seems mod_rewrite just won't work. The module is enabled and the .htaccess is there too, but I still can't use mod rewrite
[21:16] <celthunder> gartral, yeah lol i saw that :)
[21:17] <celthunder> Grifulkin, wireless with what standard any encryption methods used distance from access point?
[21:18] <Grifulkin> celthunder, it has a WEP key, and I'm about 40 feet from the router also its running channel 1 I believe.
[21:18] <maco> is there much interference?
[21:18] <celthunder> Grifulkin, does the connection drop entirely or just the download
[21:18] <maco> perhaps a bunch of other routers nearby also chan 1?
[21:18] <Grifulkin> celthunder, just the download
[21:19] <spO> if i try to mv to a location that has a directory with the same name, it mv syas unable to remove target: is a directory .... why cna't it overwrite or merge the two?
[21:19] <diamantino> who knew what with via chrome drivers for ubuntu 9,04
[21:19] <celthunder> Grifulkin, i'm assuming you tried a different file on a different server?  Check your logs for bad packets/errors?
[21:19] <ikonia> spO: mv {file1,file2,file3} /dest
[21:20] <ejv> did you try reading the man page spO ?
[21:20] <NfuidS> anyone have an idea of what I could check to fix my mod_rewrite ?
[21:20] <spO> did i ever
[21:20] <NfuidS> what ever page I go (that uses mod_rewrite) displays a Not found error
[21:20] <ejv> if you're trying to merge some directories, maybe rsync is a better tools for the job, sir
[21:20] <ejv> s/tools/tool
[21:20] <Grifulkin> celthunder, as an example when I do update sometimes it will get stuck and I will have to stop and start again, and I have tried changing the server, twice but it still happens
[21:21] <Grifulkin> celthunder, also it does it when I watch a youtube video it will buffer a bit and then completely stop
[21:21] <celthunder> Grifulkin okay, maybe its a flow control issue?
[21:22] <Grifulkin> celthunder, Alright and the way to fix that is probably through the router itself I'm assuming right?
[21:22] <gartral> celthunder Grifulkin possibly an ISP issue? (rare, but happens)
[21:22] <ejv> spO: rsync -av --progress --stats /tmp/dir1/ /tmp/dir2/ (if you're trying to merge some data)
[21:22] <celthunder> grifulkin try lowering your window size and usually that is set by the nic which you should get from the router which gets it from the modem which gets it from your isp
[21:23] <ChaoticXSinZ> Heyo
[21:23] <ChaoticXSinZ> Can anyone tell me who is the package maintainer for ffmpeg packages in karmic?
[21:24] <Grifulkin> celthunder, alright I will try that, but the big kicker is if I use windows on this same laptop, the internet works flawlessly
[21:24] <celthunder> Grifulkin, the window size is set by the software, so it's still possible, also are you using the right drivers or justones that are "close" for your wireless card?
[21:24] <linuchsan> NfuidS:you can start to read the mod_rewrite.html
[21:25] <celthunder> Grifulkin, can you go to a different Access Point (neighbors etc) and download stuff?
[21:25] <NfuidS> linuchsan: everything was fine yesterday, the site has been live for weeks
[21:25] <LayseTech> alguém sabe um bom player para assistir dvd no ubuntu?
[21:25] <dominik____> hi I ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted the xserver, now I only have shell access what can I do?
[21:25] <Grifulkin> celthunder, I can't get any other wireless around here, but how do I change the window size?
[21:25] <LayseTech> alguém sabe um bom player para assistir dvd no ubuntu?
[21:25] <LayseTech> alguém sabe um bom player para assistir dvd no ubuntu?
[21:26] <NfuidS> linuchsan: I did a svn update on my site's folder and I noticed like an hour later the problem. I keep looking at the file that updated, but I find it hard to believe that the php files could cause this.
[21:26] <Shirotoko> LayseTech, VLC
[21:26] <albasheers> hello
[21:26] <genii> !br | LayseTech
[21:26] <ejv> ChaoticXSinZ: you check launchpad?
[21:26] <celthunder> Grifulkin, i'm going to have to google that lol, never had to do it in linux only had to in windows
[21:27] <ChaoticXSinZ> ejv: It's okay I've found it. Thanks
[21:27] <ejv> ChaoticXSinZ: link? im curious :)
[21:27] <ChaoticXSinZ> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libavutil-dev <-- Lots of info
[21:27] <ejv> ejv: cool beans
[21:27] <ejv> danken
[21:27] <Anepsoreh> Alguem sabe me falar se existe uma sala especifica para o UBUNTU - BRASIL ???
[21:27] <IdleOne> !br
[21:28] <Grifulkin> celthunder, alright, thank you btw is it possible that the drivers I have for my wireless card aren't exactly the ones it should have
[21:28] <celthunder> Grifulkin, if you are dual booting go look at the model of card you have in windows and then google the chipset for it against the drivers you are using
[21:29] <Grifulkin> celthunder, wish I could but windows is on a completely different hard drive and for somereason left my screwdriver at home to change it out
[21:29] <celthunder> Grifulkin, okay, what type of laptop is it and what drivers are you using we can probably figure it out
[21:30] <linuchsan> NfuidS:what does your apache/sendmail  log files say...any errors?
[21:30] <Grifulkin> compaq presario v2000 and lspci spits out BCM4318 for the wireless card
[21:31] <Grifulkin> celthunder, compaq presario v2000 and lspci spits out BCM4318 for the wireless card
[21:33] <antonio_> hi
[21:35] <Fragsworth> I'm about to rebuild and reinstall python.. if I do this to the same location, does anyone know if I will still keep my installed packages?
[21:35] <Grifulkin> celthunder, I also just changed to wicd and it seemed to help but it has the same problems as the gnome-network-manager
[21:35] <kaptengu_> I want to stream the sound that I am hearing (using alsa mix), is this possible?
[21:36] <bucky> Fragsworth, not a good idea
[21:37] <Fragsworth> bucky: I have to rebuild it, because there are some header settings I need to change
[21:37] <Fragsworth> bucky: how would you go about doing that?
[21:38] <linuchsan> kaptengu_:stream...like broadcasting?
[21:38] <Grifulkin> celthunder, then I used b43-fwcutter to find and download the drivers I needed
[21:38] <kaptengu_> linuchsan: yes
[21:38] <hovannix> hello
[21:39] <linuchsan> kaptengu_:soooo many ways
[21:39] <kaptengu_> linuchsan: can you give me an example?
[21:39] <celthunder> Grifulkin, okay, did that help?
[21:39] <linuchsan> kaptengu_:icecast
[21:39] <bucky> Fragsworth, look into apt-cache show show python-virtualenv
[21:40] <hovannix> so.. anyone got an app to recommend? I'm bored
[21:40] <bucky> Fragsworth, or apt-cache show python-virtinst
[21:40] <Grifulkin> celthunder, no that is what I did originally
[21:41] <Grifulkin> celthunder, do you think I changed the WPA Supplicant Driver in Wicd preferences it would make a difference
[21:42] <panfist> i am trying to install a program from source, and when I do ./configure it tells me that no libcurl package was found, but i have the most up-to-date libcurl in the repos
[21:42] <linuchsan> panfist:dev
[21:42] <hovannix> try logging on as root.. allways makes a differ
[21:43] <kaptengu_> linuchsan: you know a program supporting rtsp?
[21:43] <linuchsan> hovannix:and sudo
[21:43] <guntbert> panfist: what program are you trying to compile?
[21:43] <stefg> !info libcurl4-gnutls-dev | panfist
[21:43] <linuchsan> kaptengu_:mencoder
[21:43] <guntbert> !noroot | hovannix
[21:43] <hovannix> yah.. sudo is the door to root
[21:44] <hovannix> blah blah blah.. Im going to take a piss
[21:44] <celthunder> Grifulkin, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766560
[21:44] <panfist> guntbert rtorrent. rtorrent has been crashing like mad for me, so their people recommended that i compile from source with debug enabled so they can help me
[21:44] <bucky> panfist, it's prolly asking for one of these apt-cache search libcurl-dev
[21:45] <kaptengu_> linuchsan: thank you very much, you are really good, I'll give it a try, perhaps I'll get back to you
[21:45] <guntbert> panfist: ah I see, listen to bucky please
[21:45] <linuchsan> kaptengu_:you can stream with vlc
[21:45] <Grifulkin> celthunder, I used this one way back but I couldn't find it again back before my first hard drive was unusable, thank you for finding it
[21:46] <bobslaede> Hey fellas, i'm having some issues playing a "copy protected" dvd, i'm running 9.04, and have libdvdread4 and libdvdcss2 installed and all. Have tried with totem, mplayer, xine, vlc, and tried ripping it as well
[21:46] <kaptengu_> linuchsan: from alsa mix? I couldn't find out how
[21:46] <bobslaede> Not working
[21:46] <Grifulkin> celthunder, hopefully it works because it uses the windows driver if I remember correctly
[21:49] <albasheeruddin> hello
[21:50] <celthunder> albasheeruddin, hi
[21:50] <celthunder> Grifulkin, hope it works too.
[21:51] <bobslaede> Does anybody have some info on playing copy protected dvds in ubuntu? :)
[21:51] <albasheeruddin> celthunder , i want to start loco team as there is no loco team in my country
[21:52] <sixdraw> hi all, if I upgraded my pc with a  new motherboard, cpu and ram do i need to do a complete re install of ubuntu?
[21:52] <user12345> hi
[21:52] <Ben64> sixdraw: no
[21:52] <user12345> I can't get my logitec quickcam express to run
[21:52] <Ben64> sixdraw: everything should just work, but if you change video cards, you might need to update the driver
[21:53] <craCkpot> sixdraw: its always a good idea to reformat after a mobo switch
[21:53] <user12345> I installed in synaptic qc driver source and amsn sees nothing but a black screnn and camorama says this: (camorama:15337): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[21:53] <sixdraw> Ben64, so everything including kernel will work properly
[21:53] <Ben64> sixdraw: yeah, unless you're going from 64bit cpu to 32bit
[21:53] <craCkpot> i know windows will break, but linux should work i would imagine
[21:53] <Ben64> but why would you do that
[21:53] <sixdraw> well i was but i was using 32 bit ubuntu
[21:53] <Ben64> sixdraw: 32bit ubuntu will work on 64bit cpus still
[21:54] <sixdraw> i know
[21:54] <craCkpot> true story, im doing it
[21:54] <sixdraw> thats what i was doing
[21:54] <Ben64> sixdraw: then you should be fine
[21:54] <sixdraw> Ben64, Thanks
[21:54] <craCkpot> another reason to love linux
[21:54] <craCkpot> windows freaks out when you change mobo cause of the drivers
[21:55] <Alvinware> uhh...fuck..uh...fucking your ass hole...ah.h...cuming in it!
[21:55] <user12345> please help! I need my webcam for amsn
[21:55] <craCkpot> woa
[21:55] <Ben64> but all the drivers are built into the kernel in linux :)
[21:55] <craCkpot> yep
[21:55] <craCkpot> what's wrong user?
[21:55] <linuchsan> Ben64:ist that so!!!
[21:55] <Ben64> linuchsan: yeah?
[21:56] <linuchsan> Ben64:they still depend on the hardware vendors
[21:57] <Ben64> linuchsan: at some point i guess..? but once they are in the kernel, it's in there
[21:58]  * G69 Boas.
[21:58] <linuchsan> Ben64:it depends how good it is tested
[21:58] <irgendwer47111> hi, how to build a monolithic kernel with ramdisk?
[21:59] <Ben64> irgendwer47111: that kind of seems out of the scope of this channel
[21:59] <rsk> irgendwer47111: code one and compile it on the ramdisk
[21:59] <irgendwer47111> ah no I used make-kpg
[22:00] <irgendwer47111> It complaints about not finding the modules directory
[22:02] <linuchsan> Ben64:no, if something does work, I would not recommend it if it is not tested fully.
[22:02] <Ben64> linuchsan: .......
[22:02] <irgendwer47111> I need the initrd for uuid mappingh
[22:03] <albasheeruddin> hi
[22:03] <linuchsan> Ben64:like....oooh it does work for me, so it has to work for you but it doesn't...goto the ubuntu forum
[22:04] <Alvinware> fuck
[22:04] <user12345> please help!  It didn't send the mail for me :/
[22:11] <linuchsan> irgendwer47111: did you know that the most powerful tool is www.google.country
[22:11] <ramiro> hi
[22:11] <irgendwer47111> no its a moduleless kernel
[22:12] <ramiro> how do I determine what triggered the last reboot? or if it was a power shortage or something
[22:12] <bucky> irgendwer47111, like i said you might circumvent the module process by eliminating the need for any modules
[22:12] <irgendwer47111> I try
[22:13] <bucky> good luck
[22:13] <linuchsan> ramiro:a power shortage can't be logged
[22:13] <user12345> linuchsan: http://pastebin.com/m960fe88
[22:13] <user12345> celthunder: I get a black screen in amsn, in camorama and motion I get errors, only cheese sees anything, and only extremely dark even if I  put a flash light into my face
[22:13] <lordnikon> can someone help me
[22:13] <ramiro> linuchsan: of course =). and in the case it was a logged reboot, where do I see that information (logically if no reboot was logged I can assume it was hard rebooted)
[22:13] <guntbert> !ask | lordnikon
[22:14] <lordnikon> im trying to get the wifi workling on a fresh ubuntu netbook remix install
[22:14] <BeanHound> hi
[22:14] <BeanHound> hello, xyzzy
[22:14] <lordnikon> on a asus eeepc
[22:14] <BeanHound> hello, BromaxSux
[22:14] <BeanHound> hello, howie
[22:14] <BeanHound> hello, hatchmt
[22:15] <BeanHound> hello, Agtum
[22:15] <guntbert> BeanHound: stop that please
[22:16] <bucky> user12345, did you install qc-usb-source so you can have a driver for that?
[22:16] <bucky> user12345, sudo apt-get install qc-usb-source  and modprobe the drivers for that cam
[22:17] <user12345> bucky: yes. but I only isntalled it with synaptic. do I have to compile it (as it's a source) or is that doen automatically??
[22:17] <binarymutant> !reportbug
[22:17] <user12345> bucky what is modprobe?
[22:17] <linuchsan> ramiro:how can it write a log after a power shortage, you can tell it that it must be something like that.
[22:17] <bucky> user12345, lsmod see if it's loaded, if not sudo modprobe <driver_name>  man modprobe
[22:18] <came0> Hey guys I made a type on a command while trying to set up my amazon ec2 instance with a block storage device - "echo "/dev/sdh /vol xfs noatime 0 0" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab" whe I should have put /dev/sdf.. now when I try the next command  sudo mount /vol'' it gives me this error:  "mount: special device /dev/sdh does not exist" even though i've run the command again with the proper argument.  is there a file i need to delete or
[22:18] <linux> hello
[22:19] <user12345> bucky: http://pastebin.com/m6aa32bc9
[22:19] <sketchyd> test
[22:21] <user12345> bucky:  modprobe  qc-usb-source
[22:21] <user12345> FATAL: Module qc_usb_source not found.
[22:21] <qty> dddddd
[22:21] <St-Lemur> I'm running Intrepid. When something grabs the screen for fullscreen mode and then lets it go, when my normal desktop returns it's too wide for the monitor. This problem goes away on re-starting X. This problem is new since I upgraded from Hardy.
[22:22] <bucky> user12345, that's not a driver.. that's a package,  try modinfo qc_usb and then   sudo modprobe qc_usb
[22:23] <t0s> i checked all of the packeges with gtk2-engines in synaptic and applied but now when i go to appearance preferences > customize - controls all the themes have a question mark over them, any idea what i did wrong and how to fix?
[22:23] <irgendwer47111> It doesnt work
[22:23] <carrie_555> How doI check my current runlevel ?
[22:23] <user12345> bucky: modinfo: could not find module qc_usb
[22:23] <irgendwer47111> mkinitramfs-kpkg failed to create initrd image
[22:23] <jerb> type runlevle
[22:23] <jerb> but spell it right
[22:24] <carrie_555> :)
[22:24] <carrie_555> thkx
[22:24] <carrie_555> N 2 Got it !
[22:24] <C2G_> servus
[22:25] <C2G_> hab 5 kernels im systemstart von ubuntu und brauch nur einen.... wie krieg ich den rest da raus?
[22:25] <bucky> user12345, i did a apt-cache show qc-usb-source and guess what.. it told me the driver name is qce-ga   -- sudo modprobe qce-ga
[22:25] <vincenzo> hello!
[22:25] <vincenzo> !list
[22:25] <irgendwer47111> das ist hier ein englischer channel
[22:25] <C2G_> omg
[22:25] <C2G_> ok
[22:26] <churl> gparted is showing no partitions, puppy linux (usb) is showing the partitions.  grub isnt showing up and is always booting into a new windows install.  this started from the windows install. any ideas?
[22:26] <BeanHound> hi
[22:26] <bucky> !de | C2G_
[22:26] <BeanHound> hello, prometoys
[22:26] <C2G_> i have 5 kernels in the startup menu but i only need 1.... how can i delete the 4 rest?!
[22:26] <BeanHound> did you know i love bananas?
[22:26] <BeanHound> hello, GeorgeA
[22:26] <maco> !ot | BeanHound
[22:28] <user12345> bucky: FATAL: Module qce_ga not found.
[22:28] <user12345> Maybe I'm too dumb for linux
[22:28] <user12345> :-(
[22:28] <PovAddict> I made a mess with nvidia drivers and now my system is loading 71.86.04 on startup
[22:28] <PovAddict> which doesn't even support my card
[22:28] <bucky> user12345, dpkg -l qc-usb-source  is it installed?  with two ii 's
[22:29] <PovAddict> I do have 169.12 installed but it's not getting loaded
[22:29] <eduardo_> hey guys, I need some help with Firefox on Ubuntu 9.04
[22:29] <user12345> bucky: yes. ii, version 0.6.6-5
[22:29] <PovAddict> dmesg says NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 Kernel Module  71.86.04
[22:29] <PovAddict> how can I get it to load 169.12 again?
[22:30] <x404x> how do i install perl mime:parser ?
[22:30] <bucky> user12345, some people have better luck setting up their cam with ekiga first and then it works with other apps
[22:30] <user12345> bucky: as it's 'source', wouldn#t I need to compile it first?
[22:31] <bucky> user12345, we haven't figured out what the name of the driver is yet.. and i don't have that web cam so i don't know... maybe google
[22:31] <bucky> maybe
[22:31] <eduardo_> Can someone help me with Firefox
[22:31] <user12345> hmm, ok
[22:31] <hatter243> x404x, quick google search reveals http://search.cpan.org/dist/MIME-tools/lib/MIME/Parser.pm
[22:31] <PovAddict> x404x: libmime-tools-perl
[22:31] <SealedWithAKiss> I have just installed an ATI Radeon Sapphire HD 4600 512MB PCI-E graphics card. Where would I find the Linux drivers?
[22:31] <PovAddict> eduardo_: just ask your question
[22:31] <hatter243> or that one too, hah
[22:31] <user12345> thank you for your help so far, bucky
[22:32] <hatter243> SealedWithAKiss, www.ati.com
[22:32] <PovAddict> I'm stuck in a stupid tty, no X
[22:32] <aleron6> does anybody heah know which codecs are good for kdenlive
[22:32] <PovAddict> because Ubuntu insists in loading the wrong nvidia kernel module
[22:33] <x404x> ah must have missed it . i did find the module for gd tho
[22:33] <aleron6> i want it to support avi
[22:33] <PovAddict> aleron6: avi is not a codec
[22:33] <PovAddict> aleron6: avi can be *anything*
[22:33] <bucky> user12345, your right
[22:33] <aleron6> no but i want kdenlive to support it
[22:33] <carrie_555> How do I run the rc.x related to my present runlevel, without restarting the computer ?
[22:33] <aleron6> cause kdenlive does support avi
[22:34] <bucky> user12345, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=642015&highlight=logitech+webcam  use m-a modules assistant to compile the driver
[22:34] <PovAddict> I don't think that's on-topic to this channel anyway
[22:34] <eduardo_> PovAddict: Forgive me by my english! I'm having problems since yesterday with firefox. The back, forward and refresh buttons aren't working properly. They have no colors... At this moment they're gray! So I can't use them... I've treid to click with the right mouse button but it didn't work too
[22:34] <eduardo_> I've tried to click with the right mouse button but it didn't work too
[22:35] <carrie_555> init N, Got it !
[22:37] <bucky> user12345, something like sudo m-a update && sudo m-a prepare && sudo m-a a-i qc-usb-source
[22:38] <hatchmt> Hey everyone -- I'm having a little difficulty getting authentication working in 9.04 using the blowfish cipher.  I'm migrating some users over from an openSUSE machine, but Ubuntu uses pam_unix.so rather than pam_unix2.so.  I've installed pam_unix2.so but have been unable to configure the system to use both (so the users with sha512 passwords AND the users with blowfish passwords can login).  Google doesn't really reveal much (mostly jus
[22:38] <hatchmt> t replacing sha with blowfish).  Anyone ever try getting this working before?
[22:38] <t0s> i checked all of the packeges with gtk2-engines in synaptic and applied but now when i go to appearance preferences > customize - controls all the themes have a question mark over them, any idea what i did wrong and how to fix?
[22:38] <aleron6> so can anybody tell me what codec can beu sed for kdenlive
[22:38] <lordnikon> h=i have a netbook with the netbook remix on it, i am trying to reinstall linux but it wont boot from the usb
[22:38] <jatt> how can I recognize (with software) if my laptop has an internal microphone? I followed the instructions on:
[22:38] <jatt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[22:38] <jatt> but cannot record sound.
[22:38] <_20eric06_> Hey guys, I know this is for Ubuntu, but can anyone help me with a Knoppix-based distro? (damn small linux)
[22:39] <_20eric06_> I can't get my USB wireless adapter to work on it
[22:39] <_20eric06_> I'm actually pretty clueless around linux
[22:39] <PovAddict> _20eric06_: I think we have enough noise from on-topic people already
[22:39] <user12345> bucky: wow, that's magic. I don't understand any of this and I had never before seen that blue screen, but it's capparently compiling
[22:39] <hlfshell> Hi guys - I am trying to get a serial touch screen to work with ubuntu, but am having some issues getting it to work. would anyone be willing to lend advice or their time or perhaps brainstorm a  solution?
[22:39] <_20eric06_> Okay...
[22:40] <user12345> ok, it says: building failed
[22:40] <eduardo_> PovAddict: Forgive me by my english! I'm having problems since yesterday with firefox. The back, forward and refresh buttons aren't working properly. They have no colors... At this moment they're gray! So I can't use them... I've tried to click with the right mouse button but it didn't work too
[22:40] <PovAddict> eduardo_: don't repeat yourself
[22:40] <PovAddict> and I'm not your personal assistant
[22:41] <eduardo_> PovAddict: Sorry about that... It's because firefox is driving me nuts
[22:42] <lordnikon> can someone help me boot a linux netbook from the usb??
[22:42] <PovAddict> you have gray icons in Firefox? I can't even get to the GUI
[22:42] <PovAddict> I'm stuck in the text console
[22:42] <PovAddict> I believe I'm more driven-nuts than you are
[22:43] <segadude> im thinking about downloading ubuntu server to put on an old computer to use as a media server.  Does it have a gui?
[22:43] <PovAddict> segadude: no it doesn't, that's kind of the point of the server variant
[22:43] <PovAddict> but you can always install it later...
[22:43] <SealedWithAKiss> I have installed a new graphics card, and can hardly see anything on my monitor. Everything is so big that I cannot install the drivers because I can't see the whole installation window.
[22:44] <SealedWithAKiss> Changing the resolution makes things worse!
[22:44] <user12345> bucky: building failed. also I could not install spca5xx-source as on the site you told me, instead I just got gspca-source 1.00.20-1 in synaptic
[22:44] <eduardo_> PovAddict: Yep... It started after the java instalation... I've installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin packages. Is there a way to reinstall firefox? I've treid to mark the firefox package in synaptc and never happened!
[22:44] <segadude> well how hard would it be to do things like rip DVDS without a gui?
[22:44] <lordnikon> can noone help me ??
[22:44] <PovAddict> eduardo_: I am not your personal firefox helper
[22:44] <MTeck> How can I see what display driver I'm using?
[22:44] <MTeck> patience | lordnikon
[22:44] <MTeck> !patience | lordnikon
[22:45] <lordnikon> thatnk you, i just thought that noone saw it
[22:45] <SealedWithAKiss> I have installed a new graphics card, and can hardly see anything on my monitor. Everything is so big that I cannot install the drivers because I can't see the whole installation window.
[22:45] <PovAddict> SealedWithAKiss: don't repeat yourself
[22:45] <PovAddict> at least not that frequently
[22:45] <IdleOne> !fixres | SealedWithAKiss
[22:47] <segadude> will I be able to use a USB wireless adapter with ubuntu server?
[22:47] <PovAddict> if you can use it with normal ubuntu then it will work there
[22:47] <mnaines> segadude, to avoid hassle, I recommend using the laptop's built-in wireless
[22:47] <segadude> its a desktop
[22:47] <mnaines> I've tried wireless USB dongles and Ubuntu doesn't seem to like them very well
[22:47] <trumpen> SealedWithAKiss, hold ALT key and drag the window by clicking inside it
[22:47] <Canageek> For some reason firefox isn't working even though ping, pidgin, w3m and lynx are all working
[22:48] <mnaines> Linksys seems to be the only brand Ubuntu likes
[22:48] <zend_fan2> how do u see the permissions a files has i nthe temrinal ?
[22:48] <PovAddict> zend_fan2: ls -l <file>
[22:48] <Canageek> on and now twitter is working with prism
[22:48] <segadude> I need to connet it to the network somehow. Its gonna me a media center
[22:49] <segadude> *media server
[22:49] <mnaines> But even linksys goes ballistic when you have a Mac try to use Appletalk across it
[22:49] <zend_fan2> I get total 0 is that correct ?
[22:49] <lanzelloth> how do I use orca?
[22:49] <lanzelloth> I need text-to-speech
[22:49] <PovAddict> zend_fan2: then the file you asked for doesn't exist
[22:50] <zend_fan2> strange i can goto it lol
[22:50] <zend_fan2> im only one folder back from it
[22:50] <PovAddict> type the name correctly and it will work
[22:50] <mnaines> segadude: Unless you want to run wires everywhere, your best bet is to get a Linksys wireless PCI LAN card and use a directional antenna
[22:50] <zend_fan2> would htaccess file stop it ?
[22:50] <PovAddict> what does htaccess have to do with anything?
[22:50] <segadude> ok.
[22:50] <segadude> later
[22:51] <zend_fan2> im in my apache and want to set a folder to 777
[22:51] <zend_fan2> but chmod 777 file not working
[22:51] <mnaines> zend_fan2: Do you append Sudo to the beginning of the command?
[22:51] <PovAddict> wI made a mess with nvidia drivers and now my system is loading 71.86.04 on startup, which doesn't even support my card
[22:51] <PovAddict> I do have 169.12 installed but it's not getting loaded
[22:51] <zend_fan2> uep
[22:51] <PovAddict> how can I get it to load 169.12 again?
[22:52] <zend_fan2> yep
[22:52] <PovAddict> zend_fan2: you're probably doing it from the wrong folder then
[22:52] <zend_fan2> what folder should i be in im one down from current
[22:52] <zend_fan2> one i want changed
[22:52] <mnaines> zend_fan2: you may need to try Chown on the folder first...The two don't always have to be used together, but for some folders, the permissions can't be changed unless you change the owner
[22:52] <nothingHappens> can anyone actually record with Audacity, or is it just another hoax in the elaborate conspiracy to stop musicians from adopting linux so that all the hipsters don't ruin our geek cred?
[22:53] <PovAddict> mnaines: that's way more advanced than the problem he has, currently 'ls' doesn't even show the file
[22:53] <PovAddict> mnaines: I think he doesn't quite get the concept of current directory yet
[22:53] <bobbyd> hi
[22:53] <carrie_555> I realized that when I restart my computer my local IP (<IP_ADDRESS>x) takes different values. How do set a fix local IP ?
[22:53] <bobbyd> what's the correct way to disable servers from starting at boot uaing the console?
[22:54] <mnaines> PovAddict: So he's a newbie?
[22:54] <TheMusicGuy> Why does my laptop always go into "performance" mode / the maximum CPU frequency every time I connect or disconnect AC?
[22:54] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: You can set it not to
[22:54] <bobbyd> carrie_555: you can usually make your router give your machine a specific address by specifying your machines MAC address in it's settings
[22:55] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines:  I thought I could, but the options have vanished for some reason.
[22:55] <kripso> what happend with the flashplugin in 9.04?
[22:55] <bobbyd> carrie_555: or you can jsut open up .etc.network/interfaces and edit that file as per the comments there to assign a fixed IP
[22:55] <kripso> youtube/pornhub/redtube/youporn etc dont seems to work so good need to fix the flashplugin!
[22:55] <dell-> hoho
[22:55] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I know there's some options that can be changed with Gconf, but since 9.04 was released, those setting don't seem to have any effect
[22:55] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: It generally does that because the laptop has more power...When its plugged in, it is running off A/C and so can run maximum performance...Right-click on the taskbar then click the icon that says "CPU Frequency and Scaling" then left-click on the icon and manually set the frequency
[22:55] <carrie_555> bobbyd, I'll try the second suggestion
[22:56] <PovAddict> kripso: watch less porn, that'll help
[22:56] <dell-> i'm looking for something:  amsn and skype for ubuntu 9.04
[22:56] <dell-> please help me
[22:56] <PovAddict> dell-: get skype from skype.com
[22:56] <lordnikon> i cant get my linux bot to boot from the usb
[22:56] <bobbyd> carrie_555: the first is usually better because it ensures your router won't give that IP to something else, which would mean you'd have two machines with the same IP
[22:56] <dell-> can't find it
[22:56] <lordnikon> err my linux box
[22:56] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: My bad...Right-click on the taskbar, click "CPU Frequency and Scaling", click Add, then close out of that...Click on the icon that just appeared then change the frequency manually
[22:56] <lordnikon> !usb
[22:56] <eduardo_> alguém fala português aqui?
[22:57] <carrie_555> boddy, I see
[22:57] <bobbyd> lordnikon: did you make a usb boot srive using the GUI app in system->admin?
[22:57] <PovAddict> !pt | eduardo_
[22:57] <carrie_555> eduardo, eu falo
[22:57] <dell-> only 8.10 and not working for 9.04
[22:57] <lordnikon> gui app.  what is the name of it??
[22:57] <kripso> PovAddict: whats wrong with the flash plugin anyways.. worked perfectly well before my disked crahsed and i jumped from 8.10 to this 9.04.
[22:57] <lordnikon> i have the image writer program bobbyd
[22:58] <bobbyd> System->administration "USB Startup disk creator
[22:58] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: It sometimes changes by itself whenever I connect/disconnect AC, or whenever it resumes from suspend-to-RAM. I would like it to stop doing that.
[22:58] <dell-> help please
[22:58] <kai> hallo
[22:58] <bobbyd> use the GUI app :)
[22:58] <lordnikon> ill give that one a try thnx
[22:58] <carrie_555> bobby, do you know what I should write in the interfaces file? I have only 2 lines there written... no comments ----> auto lo   and   iface lo inet loopback
[22:58] <eduardo_> if no one can help me, i'm goind
[22:58] <eduardo_> going
[22:58] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: That isn't/shouldn't be a problem.  It does that because when you're running on A/C power it can bump up the performance without running on the battery.  I would not worry about it
[22:58] <PovAddict> I have been here 30 minutes stuck in an 80x24 console because X won't work, because Ubuntu loads the wrong nvidia module
[22:59] <PovAddict> and so far everyone has ignored my question
[22:59] <mnaines> kripso: The flash plugin I use is the adobe one available through synaptic
[22:59] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: the problem is that it goes into performance when its on battery power, not just when its on AC power.
[22:59] <kai> somethings is filing all my hard drive space up
[22:59] <PovAddict> kai: do you use KDE or GNOME?
[22:59] <kai> and i cant find wher it goes
[22:59] <kai> gnome
[22:59] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Then you will have to manually set the frequency...Do what I told you to do and you can set the frequency manually that way
[22:59] <kripso> i have a look at it tommorow
[22:59] <eduardo_> PovAddict: could you open a terminal?
[23:00] <omniplatform> I have ubuntu 9.10 alpha 4 installed via Wubi, so I am trying to boot ubuntu from the Windows OS Selector.  When I select ubuntu, I get the message very briefly "Try (hd0,0): NTFS5:" then very very briefly  the message "Unknown command ')' Unkown command 'menuentry'".  Then it immediately reboots.  I have tried uninstall, reinstall, and it does the same.
[23:00] <PovAddict> eduardo_: I *am* in one
[23:00] <kai> i just delet some and then is it full again
[23:00] <wwarrior> kai you can install filelight to visually determine wich is the biger folder or file in your sistem
[23:00] <wwarrior> and try to find what is growing so much
[23:00] <kai> ther is no space left
[23:00] <PovAddict> wwarrior: filelight is for KDE
[23:00] <PovAddict> I don't think he has space to install kdelibs
[23:00] <lordnikon> bobbyd: i never thought to use that one i have been using the image writer program
[23:01] <lordnikon> thanx
[23:01] <eduardo_> Pov: Every time that you restart it ubuntu run the wrong module?
[23:01] <St-Lemur> I'm running Intrepid. When something grabs the screen for fullscreen mode and then lets it go, when my normal desktop returns it's too wide for the monitor. This problem goes away on re-starting X. This problem is new since I upgraded from Hardy.
[23:01] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I know I can set it manually, which is what I've been doing, but I would like it not to change by itself since it seems to be making absurd decisions about which power profile to use.
[23:01] <PovAddict> eduardo_: yes
[23:01] <kai> i was at lunch and no
[23:01] <wwarrior> filelight: http://www.sc.ehu.es/powgep99/dcytp/teoricos/staff/inaki//pics/blog/DUAs/filelight.png
[23:01] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: So my suggestion is not working?
[23:01] <wwarrior> PovAddict, you know the gnome alternative ?
[23:01] <bobbyd> lordnikon: well it works for me, my server is running from a USB key at the moment
[23:01] <kai> and now i have 5 g rubich on this pc
[23:01] <carrie_555> Got it
[23:01] <PovAddict> wwarrior: I think it was baobab but I don't see it in ubuntu repo
[23:01] <GPL> i am struggling with : Whenever i click some URL, it opens with Bluefish Editor, i would like someone to remove view my comp. and help me sort this problem ?
[23:02] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: You're just suggesting that I ignore the problem and change the frequency manually every time I disconnect/reconnect/resume from standby, right?
[23:02] <GPL> remote view*
[23:02] <eduardo_> did you try to run the right module using modprobe?
[23:02] <mehdi> hello
[23:02] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Did you even listen to my suggestion?
[23:02] <kai> something is filing my hard drive to the max
[23:02] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: If you are not going to listen to me, then I cannot help you
[23:02] <PovAddict> GPL: I would, but I'm currently stuck in a text-only console
[23:03] <wwarrior> yep
[23:03] <wwarrior> baobab seems to be death
[23:03] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I listened to you suggestion. You said to do it manually. But did you listen to what *I* said?
[23:03] <PovAddict> kai: run "du -h" on a console
[23:03] <GPL> PovAddict, oh okie, thanks for the interest and your concern, buddy, :)
[23:03] <eduardo_> Anyone here knows how to configure the microfone in an Acer 5050 notebook? I can use skype or record sound in ubuntu. But it works well in Vista...
[23:03] <kai> ok
[23:03] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Yes, I know what the problem is...My laptop does the same thing, and I am trying to tell you what I did to fix the problem
[23:04] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Do not make the mistake of thinking I do not know what I am talking about
[23:04] <gbrethen> does gnome-phone-manager work with LG Vue?
[23:04] <carrie_555> http://player.abacast.com/kplu/kpluflash.html
[23:04] <rupert> i have a setpagedevice line that i can insert into postscript files to get my pages centred correctly. is there some way to get cups to do this automatically?
[23:04] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: ...
[23:04] <lordnikon> bobbyd: how is it different from the imagewriter program??
[23:04] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I didn't say that you don't know what YOU'RE talking about.
[23:05] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: My problem was solved by using the CPU Frequency and Scaling Monitor
[23:05] <kai> thank you
[23:05] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: When you use the CPUFreq panel applet to change the frequencey, the changes you make only last until you disconnect/reconnect/resume from standby. After that, Ubuntu changes your setting itself.
[23:05] <PovAddict> kai: did you find the disk-eater?
[23:05] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: That is the problem I am trying to solve.
[23:05] <kai> not jet
[23:05] <kai> i have a file
[23:05] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Why do you use standby?  If you're going to be away from the laptop, just shut the thing down
[23:05] <kai> now and look at it
[23:06] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: Because that takes too long.
[23:06] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: but that's really no the point.
[23:06] <vk__> can anyone tell me why all of my virtual terminals leave me with a blinking mark and no log in prompt and no ability to type any text
[23:07] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I don't want to have to do extra things every time I resume from suspend because that wastes time.
[23:07] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: None of the operating systems apparently like the standby mode...And I've used everything from Windows 3.x on
[23:07] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: What do you mean "they don't like them"?
[23:08] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: I mean the OS goes ballistic...In my case, I lose the ability to reconnect the wireless if I hibernate or use standby mode
[23:08] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: Yes, that does happen sometimes, but only if I had the wifi kill switch turned on when I resumed (ie. wifi turned off)
[23:09] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: The reason is standby is a low power state, and apparently it erases everything in memory because of that reduced power output, and that causes the OS to go ballistic
[23:09] <Shirotoko> I need an IDE that can syncronize files trought FTP, like the sync feature of Dreamweaver... anyone knows something like that?
[23:09] <emanon> i find that mandriva cant detect my keyboard so i can type my encryption key in if i have encrypted lvm set up and fedora will forget about them if i reboot it, ubuntu wont do them at all and debian works just fine, but its still debian so no on that one
[23:09] <cornet> Shirotoko: tried filezilla ?
[23:09] <PovAddict> mnaines: erases everything in what memory?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Shirotoko: you coul;d have rsync watch the files as you work on them
[23:10] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I doesn't erase everything in memory. If that were the case, the CPU would have nothing to resume to.
[23:10] <PovAddict> RAM?
[23:10] <mnaines> PovAddict: The RAM
[23:10] <TheMusicGuy> *It doesn't
[23:10] <PovAddict> ok then I'll also that you do not, in fact, know what you're talking about :)
[23:10] <omniplatform> I have problems with ubuntu installed via wubi: should I repost the details?
[23:10] <PovAddict> hibernating stores the whole content of RAM to disk and shutdown; standby will keep RAM alive and refreshed
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> omniplatform: i hate wubi but i'll have a go. wassup?
[23:11] <mnaines> PovAddict: He's talking about standby mode, and I, for one, know that none of the current OS's can resume from standby and not have problems
[23:11] <lordnikon> how do i make my icons smaller??
[23:12] <EvilPenguin|> grub error 21?
[23:12] <mnaines> PovAddict: If the standby mode doesn't kill the wi-fi, it causes the OS to revert back to its default settings...A bunch of crazy stuff
[23:12] <PovAddict> sure, it may cause many issues
[23:12] <dzup> hi, hey whats a good wireless assistand i can use on 8.1 ?
[23:12] <bdelin88> i f'd up real bad following a guide... how do i undo this: pure-pw usermod bryce -u bryce -g pureftp -d /home/pubftp/bryce
[23:12] <PovAddict> but saying it 'erases everything in memory' is just ignorant
[23:12] <bdelin88> i have root access
[23:13] <acicula> EvilPenguin|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62717 may help
[23:13] <samitheberber> dzup: wpa_cli
[23:13] <samitheberber> dzup: or wpa_gui
[23:13] <gbrethen> LG CU920
[23:13] <PovAddict> bdelin88: what is pure-pw?
[23:13] <yacc> I wonder if anyone got an idea how to check if a given X server is active or backgrounded? (xwd with with newest karmic & nvidia drivers just makes the xserver crash. Not a good technique :( )
[23:13] <mnaines> PovAddict: I generally don't use standby or hibernate modes if I can help it...I don't ever pull out and use my laptop unless I know I can run it until the battery is dead without ever needing to get up and do stuff
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> PovAddict: pure-pw - Manage virtual users files for Pure-FTPd
[23:13] <TheMusicGuy> Suspending to ram (aka. "sleeping") is actually fairly complex. Each device connected to the system (including the CPU and RAM) has to do something different in order to drop into a lower power mode and then return to regular power usage after the CPU gives the OK
[23:13] <SealedWithAKiss> I have installed the driver for my graphics card but the resolution and display in general is still messed up.
[23:14] <bdelin88> PovAddict: sorry...posted the wrong thing, this is it: usermod -g pureftp -d /dev/null -s /etc bryce
[23:14] <TheMusicGuy> That's where technologies like ACPI come in.
[23:14] <acicula> PovAddict: re ignorance http://xkcd.com/386/ ;)
[23:14] <PovAddict> acicula: do you have an ascii art version of it?
[23:14] <x404x> i get /usr/bin/ld cannot find -lperl but libperl5.10 is installed, do i need another libperl ?
[23:14] <acicula> PovAddict: no
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: have you configured the display after installing the driver?
[23:14] <PovAddict> I'm *stuck in 80x24 tty*
[23:14] <acicula> PovAddict: there should be one tbh :D
[23:14] <omniplatform_> I lost my connection, so If anyone replied, I didn't see it
[23:14] <bdelin88> PovAddict: i unkowingly and stupidly took away my shell and home directory
[23:14] <godoshian> how can i change my locale settings to 8859-9 ?
[23:14] <dzup> SmithKurosaki: there is no package call wpa_cli  , any other wireless assistand with GUI interface for gnome ?
[23:14] <usser> x404x: if you're compiling stuff you probably need perl-dev or some such
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> omniplatform_: I hate wubi but i'll have a go
[23:14] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, I don't know how to. I have tried adjusting the resolution etc, but things just go wrong big time!
[23:15] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Now you see why I do not use standby mode.  My laptop does have ACPI enabled, but I still experience problems, so I rarely use standby mode or hibernate mode unless I absolutely have to...If I am going to use my laptop, I make sure I have time to run it until the battery is dead then I shut it down and recharge it
[23:15] <usser> dzup: wicd
[23:15] <x404x> k ill try add perldev
[23:15] <x404x> thanx
[23:15] <acicula> PovAddict: xkcd about correcting someone who is wrong on the internet, is your X broken or are you on a console by choice
[23:15] <groowy> dear guys i need a little help with ubuntu.
[23:15] <treble54> anyone have know how to address this issue?: I connected an external display (an Epson projector) and it asked me to conform my desktop settings to the limitations of the projector or something therein, and I was not able to use any of the compiz visual effects
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lshw -C display
[23:15] <PovAddict> acicula: Ubuntu is loading an ancient nvidia module that doesn't even support my card, even though I have nvidia-glx-new installed
[23:15] <treble54> after disconnecting the external display, I still can't get visual effects to work
[23:15] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: yeah, but lots of other people don't have that problem. I used to, but when Intrepid came out, most of those problems disappeared.
[23:15] <treble54> any suggestions?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> !ask | groowy
[23:16] <kai> i have done du -h > du.txt   how can i sort this text file now to see what uses the most space
[23:16] <PovAddict> so X not only crashes but also screws up my TTYs and I have to reboot
[23:16] <acicula> PovAddict: hmm, well you can load the vesa driver perhaps
[23:16] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: As I said earlier, NONE of the current operating systems have fixes for that problem
[23:16] <omniplatform_> Action:  I have ubuntu 9.10 alpha 4 installed via Wubi, so I am trying to boot ubuntu from the Windows OS Selector.  When I select ubuntu, I get the message very briefly "Try (hd0,0): NTFS5:" then very very briefly  the message "Unknown command ')' Unkown command 'menuentry'".  Then it immediately reboots.  I have tried uninstall, reinstall, and it does the same.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> treble54: could have the device connected, then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then restart x
[23:16] <treble54> ok
[23:16] <acicula> PovAddict: the stock nv driver should pretty much support any nvidia card, somewhat, the "real" nvidia drivers do drop support of the really old school stuff. What are you on, TNT/geforce 2/
[23:17] <Kirbon> I'm running jaunty and my "apt-get update" has quit working, ...keeps giving a 404 error....but the repositories are there cause I can browse to them in ff
[23:17] <acicula> s///?
[23:17] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, sure thing one moment. I can already see that it hasn't got a clue I have a new graphics card - I'll paste anyway.
[23:17] <PovAddict> acicula: I'm on a GeForce 8600GT
[23:17] <treble54> ActionParsnip: ok thx let me try that
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> omniplatform_: did you md5 checkk the wubi installer file as well as any iso files if you used one that you downloaded yourself
[23:17] <samitheberber> !wpa_supplicant | dzup
[23:17] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: That simply isn't true. Unless you're saying that no OS can fix the problem of using menial amounts of power to keep the RAM in tact, but that's more of a problem with computers in general.
[23:17] <samitheberber> !wpasupplicant | dzup
[23:17] <kai> i have done du -h > du.txt   how can i sort this text file now to see what uses the most space
[23:17] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, this display is nightmare to even browse with? Can I paste in PM?
[23:17] <acicula> PovAddict: nv or nvidia driver should support that tbh
[23:18] <samitheberber> !wpa | dzup
[23:18] <PovAddict> acicula: it does
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: just run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit
[23:18] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: The point I am trying to make is this:  Take my advice and stop using standby and hibernate modes...It will save you a lot of hassle in the long run
[23:18] <PovAddict> acicula: now how do I make Ubuntu load the damn thing instead of the ancient nvidia 71.86.04, which is for pre-G2?
[23:18] <PovAddict> GF2*
[23:18] <acicula> PovAddict: eh
[23:18] <acicula> what ubuntu version are you on
[23:18] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I tried that. Believe me, using suspend is much less hassle.
[23:18] <PovAddict> 8.04
[23:18] <vk__> can anyone tell me why all of my virtual terminals leave me with a blinking cursor and no ability to type any text. ubuntu 8.10
[23:18] <omniplatform_> hmmmm no: where do I get the md5 of the wubi?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> PovAddict: install nvidia-glx
[23:18] <samitheberber> dzup: wpagui is very simple
[23:19] <PovAddict> ActionParsnip: it's installed
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | omniplatform_
[23:19] <acicula> PovAddict: X doesnt distinguish between revisions, it just loads the driver, 8.10 should install a pretty current one though
[23:19] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: My suggestion:  Don't use the laptop unless you know you have time to run the battery completely down without having to get up and do other things
[23:19] <kai> i have done du -h > du.txt   how can i sort this text file now to see what uses the most space
[23:19] <samitheberber> dzup: you can fing it with wpagui package. You also need to enable wpa_supplicant
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> omniplatform_: you have installed wubi using an unverified wubi  installer. you have no garuntee you got all the data or that what you have was correct
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, bear with me. Things are all over the place.
[23:20] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Unless you use the laptop for work, I highly doubt you really need it just being at home all day
[23:20] <PovAddict> I *have* 169.12
[23:20] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: All I have is a laptop. If I want to do anything for any amount of time, I have to use it, regardless of how I manage power.
[23:20] <groowy> ok, i my fstab file is gone and after then i rebooted my computer i got a message in blue box says: "could not start the x server.." then i boot safe mode and tried some fixes there. now i m using my ubuntu but fstab file is still not exist. what should i do?
[23:20] <PovAddict> but the kernel is loading 71.86.04 on boot instead
[23:20] <acicula> heu
[23:20] <bdelin88> what is the default SHELL for an administrator user?
[23:20] <omniplatform_> ActionParsnip: ok, sounds likely
[23:20] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: You cannot afford a desktop?
[23:20] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: No.
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> bdelin88: there isnt one
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, that's an idea of what my screen looks like. The resolution is extremely low: http://img205.imageshack.us/i/screenshotfhq.png/
[23:20] <Explodus_> If anybody can help at my GDM deadlock issue pls post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7839029
[23:20] <Kirbon> again: (06:17:03 PM) Kirbon: I'm running jaunty and my "apt-get update" has quit working, ...keeps giving a 404 error....but the repositories are there cause I can browse to them in ff have the URL's changed....cause it hasn't been moved to the old archives yet
[23:20] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: So a $300 Dell Dimension desktop is out of your budget?
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, the command you gave me completed.
[23:20] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: i did this (stupidly): useradd -g ftpgroup -d /dev/null -s /etc ftpuser  and i am trying to restore my user to his normal home directory and shell
[23:21] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I don't have a budget. I'm a college student living off of financial aid.
[23:21] <acicula> PovAddict: you can remove the kernel mod, purge nvidia-glx and reinstall those?
[23:21] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: i did: usermod bryce -d /home/bryce -s (for default)
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> bdelin88: you can use any shell you like, most use bash but you can use sh, dash or whatever you wish
[23:21] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: not working though
[23:21] <PovAddict> acicula: I already tried apt-get install --reinstall
[23:21] <PovAddict> on nvidia-glx-new
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: ok what is the link it generated?
[23:22] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: what is the path to bash please?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> bdelin88: i suggest you read up on usermod
[23:22] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: The problem you have is not the fact you cannot afford a desktop, it is that you keep insisting on using the laptop when you know you will have to get up and do something else every 5 minutes
[23:22] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, I ran exactly that. Pastebinit installed but said that it wasn't passed any arguments.
[23:22] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: but my financial situation is irrelevent to this discussion. My point is that the problems with laptops and power profiles/frequency scaling/whatever can be solved.
[23:22] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: what?
[23:22] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: i will later, and i have been reading the man page, i just need a quick fix bc i have a lot fo other pressing issues i'm trying to solve
[23:23] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, it didn't generate one because no arguments were passed.
[23:23] <Kirbon> again: I'm running jaunty and my "apt-get update" has quit working, ...keeps giving a 404 error....but the repositories are there cause I can browse to them in ff have the URL's changed....cause it hasn't been moved to the old archives yet
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: ok try: sudo lshw -C display > ~/temp.tete; pastebinit ~/temp.tete; rm ~/temp.tete
[23:23] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: You clearly did not listen to my point earlier, correct?  My point was that unless you can devote 5 hours or more to using the laptop non-stop, do not use it
[23:23] <dwarder> !version
[23:23] <PovAddict> bdelin88: it will take less time to read the manpage than to ask here
[23:23] <bdelin88> PovAddict: i just need the bash path
[23:23] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: that's just silly.
[23:23] <dwarder> ubottu: !verison
[23:23] <PovAddict>  /bin/bash
[23:23] <dwarder> ubottu: !version
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> bdelin88: /bin/bash
[23:23] <PovAddict> dwarder: what are you trying to do?
[23:23] <treble54> ActionParsnip: thx, that fixed my problem :)
[23:23] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, just do it this way: http://pastebin.com/m4c580743
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> bdelin88: you can find out with the which command
[23:24] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: I get by just fine with that strategy
[23:24] <bdelin88> PovAddict: for usermod -s [bash path]
[23:24] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: thank you!
[23:24] <Kirbon> guess no one here knows the answer, will try somewhere else
[23:24] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: And I'm a poor college student myself
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: is there not a command like ati_config or somesuch
[23:24] <GPL> i am struggling with : Whenever i click some URL, it opens with Bluefish Editor, i would like someone to remove view my comp. and help me sort this problem ?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: type ati then press tab a few times
[23:24] <acicula> PovAddict: apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new
[23:24] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: any reason why this wouldn't work then? usermod bryce -d /home/bryce -s /bin/bash
[23:24] <acicula> --purge should wipeout the compiled mods
[23:25] <boss_mc> GPL: look in Sytem->Prefs->Preferrend Apps
[23:25] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: Besides, you're in college to learn, not to be putsing around on the laptop playing Solitaire all day
[23:25] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, aticonfig is a command that takes arguments. I don't know what args to pass to the command though.
[23:25] <Megasoft> hello
[23:25] <GPL> boss_mc: already did
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> bdelin88: ive not played with users like that so i'm no help dude, sorry
[23:25] <Megasoft> Pain Is So Close To Pleasure!!!!!
[23:25] <PovAddict> acicula: done
[23:25] <boss_mc> GPL: fair nuf
[23:25] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: ah ok well thanks man!
[23:25] <bdelin88> is there something wrong with this line?  usermod bryce -d /home/bryce -s /bin/bash
[23:25] <PovAddict> acicula: reinstall it?
[23:25] <acicula> PovAddict: nah, try rebooting
[23:25] <PovAddict> ok bbl
[23:25] <Halitech> SealedWithAKiss, I think if you just run aticonfig it should give you the differnt arguements you can use
[23:25] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: That's not the kind of advice this chat room is meant for, if you catch my drift.
[23:25] <acicula> PovAddict: if it's gone it should default to the nv driver
[23:26] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, just typing aticonfig produces more output than I can display in my terminal.
[23:26] <acicula> the open source one
[23:26] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: sorry, channel.
[23:26] <GPL> boss_mc: not fair, because nothing happens/changes with that, lol
[23:26] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: I'm sorry if you cannot tolerate brutal honesty
[23:26] <boss_mc> GPL: alas...
[23:26] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I;'m sorry you haven't learned tact and the fine art of keeping the topic on point.
[23:26] <PovAddict> but nvidia-glx-new is the 169.something one
[23:26] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, how do I save the output of aticonfig to a .txt file using the command line?
[23:26] <PovAddict> I don't know where 71.86.04 is from
[23:27] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: You asked for advice and you got advice.  Don't blame me because you did not like the advice you were given
[23:27] <GPL> boss_mc: yes, thats one word to say
[23:27] <bdelin88> ActionParsnip: well maybe you could help me with this... i think i have a syntax error with this line: usermod bryce -d /home/bryce -s /bin/bash ... -s i should be able to set the SHELL... but it is saying "user /bin/bash does not exist"
[23:27] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I'm not blaming you for anything.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: try: sudo aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:27] <_20eric06_> Guys, knoppix is dead and I need a little HD install help
[23:27] <PovAddict> TheMusicGuy and mnaines how about taking the argument to private?
[23:27] <PovAddict> _20eric06_: #knoppix?
[23:28] <mnaines> TheMusicGuy: I am not the type of person who tells people what they want to hear.  I tell them the truth, regardless of whether or not they want to hear the truth
[23:28] <_20eric06_> PovAddict: Yeah
[23:28] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, Found fglrx primary device section
[23:28] <SealedWithAKiss> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:28] <SealedWithAKiss> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[23:28] <TheMusicGuy> mnaines: I'm not hear to argue with you, I'm here to solve a technical problem.
[23:28] <SealedWithAKiss> Oops sorry did't notice the line breaks.
[23:28] <TheMusicGuy> *here