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 Is it ? Are we sure it's not an automated text? (re @RikMills: )
 Also, wow. Telegram side is soo much cleaner without all those lugito messages.
 You think Simon may have gone all the way, and finally transformed into an actual bot? 🤣 (re @The_LoudSpeaker: Is it ? Are we sure it's not an automated text?)
 Maybe. XD
 @tsimonq2 speak if you are not a bot!
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 No, I'm Clive (re @RikMills: @tsimonq2 speak if you are not a bot!)
 OMG
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[12:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> umm what's the symbols file for riscv architecture?
[12:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> libfm-qt8.symbols.mipsel ?
[12:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> nvm
 .riscv64
 we don't build mipsel
[12:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T146: libreoffice qt5 vcl] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146#4247
[12:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> RikMills: but we have the mipsel symbols in here. Should I remove that?
[12:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> and riscv64 symbols isn't present, guess I will have to modify the main one.
[12:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, wxl if anyone wants libreoffice 7 on focal they will use ppa. we don't need to SRU it for them. :)
 the mipsel one will do no harm if you leave it, so up to you (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <The_LoudSpeaker> RikMills: but we have the mipsel symbols in here. Should I remove that?)
[12:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> i will leave it.
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[14:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> Finished 20 seconds ago (took 41 minutes, 36.1 seconds)
[14:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> riscv64 build for fm-qt
[14:05]  * The_LoudSpeaker facepalms
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[14:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLIBFMQTPACKAGING24b035552e43: Fix s90x and riscv64 errors] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING24b035552e43
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[14:15] <kc2bez[m]> <The_LoudSpeaker "Finished 20 seconds ago (took 41"> That seems pretty quick for riscv
 +++++++++++++
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[14:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> :)
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[16:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> something wrong with merges.ubuntu.com ?
[16:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> grab-merge for lxqt-themes is taking waaay too long.
 *assumes The_LoudSpeaker is intentionally ignoring Telegram DMs, goes back to Full Time Job stuff*
[16:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> nvm. works fine.
[16:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001, my telegram is set to go to sleep when not in active use. one sec.
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 what sessions does lubuntu have in 21.04 X, wayland, or both?
 i don't think Lubuntu has *any* wayland integrations / sessions... not to my knowledge anyways, but I'll wait for others to comment on that one
 kc2bez or wxl might know better ;)
[17:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> +1
 just want to know if it would hurt lubuntu by reverting an upstream sddm change that makes it prefer wayland if both are present as options
 sounds like it would change nothing for lubuntu
 don't quote me directly, i don't touch the session manager things ;)
 but I don't think there's any Wayland things pulled in by LXQt
 or Lubuntu by default
 that is what I thought.
 I can always revert the revert if anything weird happens
[17:26] <kc2bez[m]> I see no issue reverting the change. We don't have a wayland session and haven't really started down that path yet.
 Ok. gotta test it actually does what I want 1st anyway...
 Thanks
[17:27] <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <RikMills> Thanks"> Thanks to you too.
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[17:57] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker did you ever get that howto for merges doc done?
[17:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> sleptoff halfway through it.
[17:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> wil do today. before meet
[18:03] <wxl> ok
[18:08] <wxl> re: riscv, that was the last arch they had to fix with the buildd errors, so maybe that was why it took so long
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[18:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, I need fmqt8 for qtplugin. It is still in proposed. so I just enable proposed and go with qtplugin packaging right?
[18:25] <RikMills> wxl: riscv64 is just slow slow slow slow sloe
[18:25] <RikMills> as it is qemu instead of real builders
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[18:26] <kc2bez[m]> I have observed the same thing.
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[18:26] <kc2bez[m]> They are just slow.
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[18:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> woooo! enabling proposed gives me 244 updates and 7 new packages
[18:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> hirsute proposed i.e
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[18:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> teward: why is notes.l.m so sloowww ?
[18:34] <teward> no idea, it's running on the main infra at DO
[18:35] <teward> which is its own form of chaos
[18:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> i will create a doc on phab. lite.
[18:36] <teward> if it's being slow chances are the main system needs rebooted or kicked
[18:36] <teward> it's a DO node so I can't really control/repair that as much as I"d like to
[18:36] <kc2bez[m]> I haven't noticed notes to be slow
[18:36] <RikMills> https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/dont-use-proposed/
[18:38] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, can't reproduce slow here.
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[19:06] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/dealing-with-merges/
[19:07] <wxl> ok now add an alternative to meld that's terminal based
[19:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[19:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> cp debian/* destination-debian-folder
[19:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> and meld is good okay. works fine.
[19:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> \
[19:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> that reminds me I need to edit the doc. we need themes also if we are to see icons in meld.
[19:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> if you are building stuff in a clean chroot or container i.e if it's a whole system then fine.
[19:14] <wxl> meld is not ok if you're not in a gui
[19:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> hence the cp command.
[19:15] <wxl> oh for pete's sake
[19:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> it works. coz files from merge.ubuntu.com are identical.
[19:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> check it out. I have tried and tested.
[19:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> but tbh, I do not know any alternative. add if you know one.
[19:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> something like ranger would be nice. I have moved to ranger completely.
[19:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, just realised, might have put non-ubuntu email address in some places in changelog. But it's my primary mail id so it's okay? the ubuntu alias anyway fowards to that mail address only.
[19:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-config just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-config/361/
[19:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> this happened coz I reset my container and forgot to edit the bashrc.
[19:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-archiver FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-archiver/591/
[19:29] <wxl> this loks like a nice alternative to vimdiff but otherwise vimdiff works fine https://github.com/samoshkin/vim-mergetool
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_sddm just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_sddm/637/
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt/629/
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_sddm just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_sddm/394/
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_pavucontrol-qt/145/
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt/391/
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_lxqt-qtplugin just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_lxqt-qtplugin/116/
[19:31] <wxl> `dch -e`? maybe that's necessary because you don't have an editor set up?
[19:32] <wxl> your email will be fine
[19:32] <wxl> would be nice to add to this a real world example of resolving a specific issue
[19:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING5b051dec1a8d: New upstream version] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING5b051dec1a8d
[19:33] <wxl> UGH meld is gtk? come on, raman. let's at least switch to kdiff or something
[19:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> me has ubuntu 20.04 host so used gtk. use whatever you like. make edits where you seem necessary. as long as you are copying fixed files from merges ka folder to your phab repo any tool works.
[19:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> lxqt-themes is the real world example I used there.
[19:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> and I just applied this exact process to lxqt-qtplugin. ^^
[19:37] <wxl> it doesn't show the example, though. show an actual merge conflict and how it's resolved. see the packaging example
[19:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> ughh. too much work na. people can always go and check packaging example. here I am just mentioning how to grab correct files, fix them and where to put them in the end.
[19:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> really not in the mod to write detailed instructions with examples and screenshots rn. too tired.
[19:40] <wxl> ok well keep merging ten
[19:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_sddm just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_sddm/637/
[19:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> gonna stop for today. let everything that's done land into updates of hirsute. disabling my own ppa and proposed.
[19:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> had to enable my ppa on top of proposed for this last one.
[19:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_lxqt-archiver FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_lxqt-archiver/243/
[19:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_sddm UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_sddm/141/
[19:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> coz libfm-qt-dev hasn't published in proposed yet.
[19:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_sddm just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_sddm/394/
[19:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> as i said ppa builds and process in genral is faster.
[19:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTTHEMESPACKAGINGc0f04ec1660a: New upstream version.] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTTHEMESPACKAGINGc0f04ec1660a
[19:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_calamares FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_calamares/69/
[19:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> lol. had forgot to push this earlier.
[19:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] hirsute_stable_calamares just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/hirsute_stable_calamares/70/
[19:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-panel just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-panel/371/
[19:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-panel just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-panel/609/
[20:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_pavucontrol-qt/629/
[20:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0c0d56646e41: Update compton-conf version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0c0d56646e41
[20:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL189e9e41f6d3: Add picom in window effects] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL189e9e41f6d3
[20:51] <kc2bez[m]> I hope to be on-time for the meeting but I am finishing up something.
[20:56] <lynorian> If the compton.conf has a bad config file in it on upgrade should that be a lubuntu-default-settings or picom bug? I may also need to try are fresh install for this
[20:58] <lynorian> I got picom to work by removing the alpha-step and paint on overlay in the config file
[21:04] <kc2bez> Thanks lynorian wxl has a task here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96 for the conversion. That would be good to add to it.
[21:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] migrate from compton to picom: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[21:05] <kc2bez> Apologies for the tardiness.
[21:05] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:05] <KGIII> Here.
[21:05] <lynorian> here
 HI
[21:09] <kc2bez> ack KGIII lynorian @HMollerCl
[21:09] <kc2bez> KGIII: How are things going?
[21:10] <KGIII> Same as always, really. I have done daily testing and had some extra time to really dig into stuff. I've been able to do some support. I'm still reading and learning, trying to play catch-up. I am still watching bug triage-ing. I'll be able do this for the foreseeable future. That is everything and here's a preemptive thanks (and you're most welcome) to everyone for their respective contributions.
[21:10] <wxl> here and i've also got the paste for raman who cannot attend
[21:10] <kc2bez> Awesome! Those really help.
[21:10] <kc2bez> ack wxl
[21:11] <kc2bez> lynorian: over to you
[21:12] <lynorian> I may have to leave  but I ended up mostly adding new screenshots and editing for the screensaver and added  noticed new compton-conf came down but the manual has not been fully transitioned over to picom yet. I also updated kde-patitionmanger with things like how to undo all pending operations
[21:12] <lynorian> that is what I did this week
[21:12] <kc2bez> Thanks lynorian !
[21:12] <wxl> btw we don't seed picom
[21:12] <wxl> compton now recommends picom (weird) which conflicts with the default compton conf
[21:13] <lynorian> oh dang it got installed as a recommend on upgrade
[21:13] <wxl> yep
[21:13] <kc2bez> Oh fun
[21:13] <wxl> picom doesn't have a default config per se but i suspect there are defaults bulit into it
[21:13] <wxl> so it should work fine out of the box
[21:13] <wxl> (if compton isn't there)
[21:14] <lynorian> what is worse compton-conf the gui saves a new config file that borks it
 I didn't knew picom existed in grrovy
[21:14] <lynorian> I am talking on hirsuite
[21:14] <kc2bez> right
[21:15] <wxl> it's a mess
[21:15] <kc2bez> Indeed
 yes, but I "apt listed" in groovy and it is there...
[21:15] <wxl> a bug should be filed against compton, against our seed, and probably against our settings
[21:16] <kc2bez> There probably should be a removal for compton
[21:16] <wxl> *probably*
[21:17] <kc2bez> I haven't checked but picom should probably get added to our package set.
[21:17] <wxl> yeah that too
[21:18] <kc2bez> ok, all good stuff for the task.
[21:18] <kc2bez> @HmollerCl good to see you here.
 if I have time I will  be here
 so, I upgraded lubuntu-update-notifier
 to 0.4
 this includes more information about packages affected and the ability to support languages
[21:20] <wxl> nice!
 now it has default english and spanish
 but anyone could add .po translations
[21:21] <kc2bez> The info about security packages seems nice.
 aaa, and that also, thanks @kc2bez
 now the only thing missing (that I remember) from the lxde we had is the ability to pick which packages to update.
 I hope it was build ok in hirsute, haven't checked
[21:22] <wxl> new apt https://blog.jak-linux.org/2021/02/18/apt-2.2/
 *built
[21:23] <kc2bez> It made it to release but I didn't check to see if it was one of the things that needed rebuilding
[21:23] <kc2bez> I don't think so.
 hope that doesn't affect apt python packages built upon it. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> new apt https://blog.jak-linux.org/2021/02/18/apt-2.2/)
[21:25] <wxl> prolly not
 that's on my side
[21:25] <kc2bez> Thanks Hans!
 I would like to propose for openbox theme the use of breeze
 we have arc now, and that doesn't match 100% with Qt Style
[21:26] <wxl> knock yourself out!
[21:26] <kc2bez> Agreed
 ok
[21:27] <kc2bez> wxl: Over to you for your report and Raman's
[21:27] <wxl> k
[21:27] <wxl> raman first
[21:27] <wxl> merged following:
[21:27] <wxl> compton-conf : https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCOMPTONCONFPACKAGING44e1c9fbac17c18eecb6464e40265eab46adef31
[21:27] <wxl> libfm-qt : https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING24b035552e43c664ff2d605273b6caf8b137f9e6
[21:27] <wxl> lxqt-themes : https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTTHEMESPACKAGINGc0f04ec1660a40e2bce6de95760fba924eb724a1
[21:27] <wxl> lxqt-qtplugin : https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTQTPLUGINPACKAGING5b051dec1a8d7b3acbbe4e27439dd811fec32ec4
[21:27] <wxl> created a doc to help deal with merges:
[21:27] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/dealing-with-merges/
[21:28] <wxl> as for me…
[21:29] <wxl>  * COMMITS
[21:29] <wxl>    * Unquestionably made qapt-deb-installer the default app for Debian packages.
[21:29] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS80a760f67675
[21:29] <wxl>  * UPSTREAM
[21:29] <wxl>    * Commented on an issue about unmapped shortcuts in QTerminal.
[21:29] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/issues/794#issuecomment-778855392
[21:29] <wxl>    * Commented on an issue about an alternative to the systray.
[21:29] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1385#issuecomment-778877651
[21:29] <wxl>    * Commented on a pull request to improve the issue template for stable distros.
[21:29] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/pull/1918#issuecomment-781534819
[21:29] <wxl>    * Added a tangent to a discussion about accelerators re: language & category.
[21:29] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/discussions/1916#discussioncomment-38202a
[21:29] <wxl>  * MISCELLANEOUS
[21:29] <wxl>    * Answered a question about the state of LXDE/Openbox/LXQt/etc.
[21:29] <wxl>      * https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/695488
[21:29] <wxl> and that's it
[21:29] <kc2bez> Fantastic to both of you!
[21:30] <guiverc> o/ apologies for my tardiness
[21:30] <wxl> i'm going to try to go through the merge doc and embellish it a bit as its a bit sparse
[21:30] <kc2bez> No worries, you get to jump to the front of the line guiverc ;)
[21:30] <wxl> but it may be a good starting point for those interested in helping in an area we could desperately use help
[21:31] <kc2bez> Sounds good, I will try to look at it too wxl
[21:31] <wxl> he recommends meld (gtk) for a merge tool so :/
[21:32] <kc2bez> kompare maybe even IDK
[21:32] <kc2bez> Go ahead if you have anything guiverc
[21:32] <wxl> is that the kde thing? i thought it was kdiff
[21:32] <wxl> anywho
[21:33] <guiverc> if Dan's comment was a go; some support & some testing (not a lot; 1864787 impacts hirsute :( only thing noteworthy (and not good thing sorry)
[21:33] <guiverc> sorry kc2bez you'd made clear as I was typing; I forgot I'd typed that @ start
[21:33] <kc2bez> Thanks for the update and working on it!
[21:34] <kc2bez> no worries
[21:34] <kc2bez> I don't have too much
[21:34] <kc2bez> * Sent out the Lubuntu Council election to the members
[21:34] <kc2bez> * Updated the weekly development post https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/development-for-the-week-of-february-12-18-2021/2186
[21:34] <kc2bez> * closed T187
[21:34] <kc2bez> * uploaded l-u-n 0.4
[21:35] <kc2bez> That's it from me.
[21:36] <kc2bez> Anything else from anyone else?
[21:37] <kc2bez> Thanks for meeting everyone!
[21:37] <wxl> thanks kc2bez as always
[21:37] <guiverc> Thank you wxl, kc2bez, lynorian & everyone else for their hard work
[21:41] <KGIII> I'm amazed y'all get as much done as you do - while holding jobs.
[22:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL28dc78c817d5: Update update-notifier version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL28dc78c817d5


[02:29] <Crinos512> Greetings
[02:29] <Crinos512> could some one here help me submit a "papercut" for the OneHundredPapercuts project?


[08:08] <duflu> alf___: ping
[08:08] <alf___> duflu: hey
[08:08] <alf_> my tail grew while I was away
[08:09] <duflu> alf_: Hey can you refresh my memory about where to find the Qt compositor code that determines how long compositor buffers are held?
[08:10] <duflu> Or if you can't remember, I shall dig it up later
[08:11] <alf_> duflu: I am not sure I get your question, but related code is in lp:qtmir (i.e. the glue between qt an mir used by QtCompositor)
[08:12] <duflu> alf_: Thanks. It's been quite a while since I jumped between projects
[08:13] <alf_> duflu: by "Qt compositor" you mean the new version, right (THE "QtCompositor")?
[08:15] <duflu> alf_: I was away for the changeover. Only vaguely familiar with the fact that things are changing there
[08:17] <alan_g> RAOF: provides was in the incantation mterry gave me. And my reading of the documentation didn't make it clear that it was wrong.
[08:17] <alan_g> Thanks for the fix
[08:18] <duflu> Oh render_surfaces isn't green any more?
[08:18] <duflu> Horrible green isn't fashionable?
[08:19] <alan_g> ...a shame it didn't work
[08:22] <alf_> duflu: lp:qtmir , src/modules/Unity/Application/mirsurfaceitem.cpp should be a good start for what you are looking for. Note, again, that this is the code for the upcoming "QtCompositor" Gerry is working on, *not* what's in the images right now.
[08:26] <alf_> duflu: I think the relevant code for the current version is in lp:unity-mir
[08:30] <duflu> alf_: Thanks, good to know the difference
[09:41] <alf_> duflu: I have managed to reproduce 1335481 locally. Are you investigating or should I look into it?
[09:41] <alf_> duflu: bug 1335481
[09:41] <duflu> alf_: Go nuts, I'm not working on it
[09:41] <alf_> duflu: ack
[10:44] <mlankhorst> is mir broken on nouveau? getting thread 1 stuck on pthread_mutex_lock in #7  mir::scene::Observers::add_observer (this=this@entry=0xc54ee8, observer=std::shared_ptr (count 1, weak 0) 0xc55978) at /build/buildd/mir-0.4.1+14.10.20140714/src/server/scene/surface_stack.cpp:285
[10:53] <duflu> mlankhorst: I was considering retesting more hardwares this week. Will do so by the weekend
[10:53] <duflu> rsalveti: Got some fun for you
[10:53] <alan_g> mlankhorst: that looks like it could be a problem we fixed in -r 1764 (can't find the bug reference just now).
[10:54] <alan_g> I don't think the fix has quite made it to archive.
[10:54] <duflu> rsalveti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libhybris/+bug/1343198
[10:54] <mlankhorst> alan_g: is there a ppa for testing?
[10:55] <alan_g> camako: ^
[11:03] <camako> mlankhorst, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-018
[11:07] <mlankhorst> I thought the train was crashed by a aiplane?
[13:59] <tedg> dednick, So the silo18 has everything in it now?
[14:00]  * tedg notices a new branch added there
[14:24] <dednick> tedg: new branch? didnt realise
[14:24] <dednick> tedg: it's still missing a bit from unity8
[14:24] <tedg> dednick, I think so, but I'm loosing track of which ones I need :-)
[14:26] <tedg> dednick, Oh, is that in a silo somewhere?
[14:27] <dednick> tedg: i'm not really sure. things are a bit fluid at the moment. Saviq?
[14:27] <Saviq> dednick, it could be added now
[14:27] <tedg> dednick, So I got silo 18 installed but I'm not seeing a socket in the runtime dir.
[14:27] <Saviq> dednick, previous landing *just* happened
[14:27] <tedg> Is that expected?
[14:28] <tedg> Saviq, While you're here, when does dash get it's own PID?
[14:28] <dednick> tedg: that's the bit that's missing.
[14:28] <Saviq> tedg, soon after qtcomp
[14:28] <Saviq> tedg, meaning a week, max two away
[14:29] <dednick> tedg: if you add a MIR_SERVER_PROMPT_FILE=1 to your unity8.conf upstart file it will work.
[14:29] <tedg> Oh, my. I was hoping that was going to be an hour, max two away...
[14:29] <tedg> dednick, So can I ask the trusted prompt session to overlay on the Unity8 PID?
[14:30] <tedg> Or is that crossing the streams?
[14:30] <dednick> tedg: no, it wont work on the unity8 pid. only an application
[14:31] <tedg> dednick, Uhg, okay.
[14:31] <tedg> Saviq, Can we split the dash out before the qtcompositor landing?
[14:31] <tedg> I realize it won't be as beautiful…
[14:33] <Saviq> tedg, no we can't
[14:33] <tedg> Saviq, If I ask really nicely. PLEASE! :-)
[14:33]  * tedg gets some kitten pictures off the Internet
[14:34] <Saviq> tedg, really, no, it's already done based on qtcomp, and qtcomp is landing within days
[14:34] <Saviq> and is more important
[14:35] <tedg> Hmm, okay.


[14:13] <ncweber> When I log in to the group, I get a pop-up message from something called "frigg".  Does anyone know what that is?
[14:23] <maco> the group?
[14:23] <maco> this channel, you mean?
[14:56] <ncweber> Sorry, yes this channel.
[14:56] <ncweber> This is the message I get:
[14:56] <ncweber> (09:44:34) frigg:
[14:56] <ncweber> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to ncweber) from frigg
[14:58] <ncweber> I'm still new  to the whole IRC thing.  Plus, I'm using Pidgin to connect, and Pidgin refers to the channel as a group. *shrug*
[16:05] <maco> ncweber: frigg would be some other user on the freenode server, but it's not someone in this channel
[16:05] <maco> they did a command that requests info about what irc client you are using
[16:26] <ncweber> I see.
[16:26] <ncweber> Kind of a 'whois' sort of thing?
[16:28] <maco> there is also a whois command
[16:29] <maco> that tells you if they have the "real name" field set and which freenode server they're on, and if they lack a cloak then itd show the ip address too
[16:29] <maco> ctcp version is like a whois for your pidgin instead of for you
[16:29] <maco> cuz all itd tell them is that you're running pidgin version whatever
[16:50] <ncweber> Cool. Thanks.
[18:15] <bcurtiswx> maco, any chance you'd get to make it to TOI this weekend?