[05:59] <kikr> Schmick: I don't see "Blink" anywhere. I'm righting clicking on the icon in the top left of xchat and also on the taskbar
[05:59] <bryan> rofl... I think I broke amarok
[05:59] <bryan> oy
[05:59] <KocKid> When i open the terminal program, my computer restarts..... can someone help me ?????
[05:59] <nickrud> !o4o | NeoGeo64
[05:59] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[05:59] <Sonja> yea i love cannabis too
[05:59] <NeoGeo64> mmmh
[05:59] <Sonja> but it's not for everyone
[06:00] <chcampb> well ill just go check to see if they have anything else :\
[06:00] <dthacker> hi, I added the www-data group to my user with usermod, and now sudo will not execute properly.  For example, sudo useradd -m testuser will not create a user
[06:00] <krammer> so how can I get pidgin to run?
[06:00] <chcampb> its just the only binaries they have are the red hat ones, and i wasnt sure those would work
[06:00] <IdleOne> !offtopic | Sonja
[06:00] <ubotu> Sonja: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:00] <MasterShrek> dthacker, look carefully at the syntax for usermod, im sure you got removed from the admin group
[06:01] <Sonja> sorry i was responding to NeoGeo64
[06:01] <bascule> chcampb: porbably not, but there is an alien utilit
[06:01] <bascule> !info alien
[06:01] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.68 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:01] <redd0t> motd
[06:01] <redd0t> whoops
[06:01] <nickrud> !alien | chcampb
[06:01] <ubotu> chcampb: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:01] <NeoGeo64> Cannabis and Linux go together.
[06:01] <Sonja> ubuntu-tan is the main reason i switched form winxp to ubuntu
[06:01] <MasterShrek> !ot | NeoGeo64
[06:01] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:01] <IdleOne> NeoGeo64: dont push it dude
[06:01] <dthacker> MasterShrek: id dthacker does not show me in admin.  How can I restore without sudo?
[06:02] <underdaw1> when I do a sudo make install for hamachi, it says it's creating a hamachi-init symlink however when I type sudo hamachi-init it does nothing, any ideas
[06:02] <underdaw1> !hamachi
[06:02] <MasterShrek> dthacker, most likely youll have to reboot on a livecd and edit /etc/group on your root partition, unless you have another user that has sudo privildges, or if you created a root password
[06:02] <kikr> Could someone please tell me how to stop xchat from blinking in the taskbar?
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hamachi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <Missy18> how can i scan network printers automatically .. i have tried cups but it doesn't find the printer installed on the same network, is there any other package that will auto install shared printers on the network?
[06:02] <Sonja> #ubuntu-offtopic rulez
[06:02] <EdwardXP> is there anyone in here know about video game editing?
[06:03] <nickrud> dthacker, reboot in recovery mode, and run   adduser <you> admin , then   telinit 2 to get back to the gui
[06:03] <taurusivy> could i recompile 8139too 0.9.27 in 2.6.15 source code tree for my 2.4 platform?
[06:03] <MasterShrek> underdaw1, i would guess the binary is not in your user's path, but in root's path
[06:03] <EdwardXP> this guy needs help bad, hes been working on a alpha demo for years, since 2004
[06:03] <underdaw1> Master, this is tru, but I have been using sudo according to the official ubuntu instructions
[06:03] <EdwardXP> Dugeon masters! in 3d shader 3.0 required...
[06:03] <underdaw1> all through ssh \
[06:04] <underdaw1> so to get it to work I have to sudo su -?
[06:04] <bascule> taurusivy: probab;y not, bt the driver will be backported for fixes/features in latest 2.4 anyway, as fa as I know
[06:04] <MasterShrek> underdaw1, sudo /sbin/<command>  possibly?
[06:04] <nt> Hi, could someone help me?I really appreciate the help. I'm trying to install matlab but have problem on running the install file,  I run 'sudo ./install' under matlab r2007b gives me 'command not found' even though the file was in the folder, if I don't use 'sudo' then I don't have permission to the file.  I've looked up in the forums but seems the problem is recent and not solved yet
[06:04] <underdaw1> I wonder why it didn't work out like it should have
[06:04] <underdaw1> lemme try that
[06:04] <nickrud> underdaw1, better than sudo su - is sudo -i
[06:04] <dthacker> MasterShrek, nickrud: thanks, I'll have to go to the the hosting site tomorrow.
[06:04] <MasterShrek> underdaw1, what is the program for?
[06:04] <taurusivy> bascule: but the 0.9.26 on 2.4.32 is quite buggy
[06:04] <underdaw1> hamachi is a vpn
[06:05] <underdaw1> easy setup vpn
[06:05] <underdaw1> it worked fine on my local box
[06:05] <kikr> wow this is so annoying. are there any xchat users out there?
[06:05] <nickrud> kikr, many
[06:05] <underdaw1> but didn't work right with my remote ssh
[06:05] <redd0t> konversation, ftw
[06:05] <xcthulhu> kikr sure
[06:05] <HardDisk> nt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[06:05] <bascule> taurusivy: *shrug* trying to backport from 2.6 yourself is a recepie for disaster
[06:05] <IdleOne> kikr: ask away also try #xchat
[06:05] <kikr> are there any xchat users who know how to stop the taskbar from blinking?
[06:05] <Jymmm> anyone running 2.6.20 by chance? ubuntu-server?
[06:05] <nt> harddisk, I've tried the forum, but none of them works
[06:06] <HardDisk> nt, try Octave as well, http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
[06:06] <nickrud> kikr, settings->prefs->alerts
[06:06] <HardDisk> nt, did you follow the link I provided?
[06:06] <balleyne> does anyone know how to copy files from Windows, using a Linux live CD, but preserving the windows permissions?
[06:06] <underdaw1> sig
[06:06] <nickrud> kikr, unless you're using xchat-gnome, in which case i donno
[06:06] <underdaw1> sigh, wonder why this isn't working
[06:06] <taurusivy> bascule: ok, any advice if i want keep my 2.4 system
[06:06] <bascule> balleyne: not possible
[06:06] <underdaw1> then I tar the archive I have to tar it through sudo
[06:06] <HardDisk> balleyne, all permissions die when you transfer from NTFS to any other system.
[06:06] <nt> yeah,
[06:06] <underdaw1> could that be it?
[06:06] <Zoo> Can you mount .img files?
[06:06] <kikr> nickrud: xchat-gnome 0.18
[06:07] <bascule> taurusivy: make bug reports to the driver maintainer for 8139too
[06:07] <balleyne> HardDisk: ok... what if I'm copying from NTFS to NTFS, but using a Linux Live CD? Still not possible?
[06:07] <HardDisk> balleyne, no.
[06:07] <nt> harddisk, yeah, Let me try it, thank
[06:07] <Apocalypse_dn> Hi
[06:07] <kikr> it's so annoying. It keeps blinking nonstop and I can't find where to stop it
[06:07] <nickrud> kikr, I don't run that one, probably not many here. I use the plain xchat , it has many more options. #xchat may know
[06:07] <balleyne> HardDisk: ok, thanks
[06:07] <HardDisk> ok this time I'm leaving.
[06:08] <HardDisk> :)
[06:08] <Jymmm> anyone running 2.6.20 by chance? ubuntu-server and notice any instability with networking, like not responding to incoming traffic?
[06:08] <nickrud> HardDisk, you've been seduced, you'll be back before you realize
[06:08] <bascule> balleyne: ntfs are biund to a unique uuid per machine, you would be unable to copy them from another system withiut removing them
[06:08] <EdwardXP> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHVvAyb1ttk   Im' fliping out!!     LoL I felt like i had to share this...
[06:08] <Zoo> nickrud: He'll be a regular in no time :P
[06:08] <HardDisk> nickrud, probably.
[06:08] <EdwardXP> <--- im bored
[06:09] <HardDisk> he'll be? I am a regular.
[06:09] <balleyne> bascule: ah, ok - thanks
[06:09] <taurusivy> bascule: ok, so the fastest way for me is to update to 2.6 kernel, right? but where do u catch up with those news about backporting to 2.4 ?
[06:09] <Zoo> Can you mount .img files?
[06:09] <bascule> taurusivy: in each releases of 2.4 changelog
[06:10] <taurusivy> bascule: well, thx ;)
[06:10] <HardDisk> is that for me?
[06:10] <HardDisk> yea
[06:10] <HardDisk> why?
[06:10] <bascule> taurusivy: assuming I understood the question, if you are asking me how to hack drivers across kernel releases, I have no idea
[06:11] <bascule> taurusivy: welcome
[06:12] <taurusivy> bascule: the reason why i wanna use the latest driver of the ethcard is the 2.4 release of the driver is buggy.
[06:12] <HardDisk> for a lot of new users I tend to let em try out acetoneiso
[06:12] <bascule> I used it for 18months with no issues, to my knowledge, back in the day
[06:12] <bascule> taurusivy: ^
[06:12] <HardDisk> it's an excellent all round app for converting/mounting different types of images
[06:13] <HardDisk> personally I only use iso's for my work, so no worries about standards.
[06:13] <dthacker> Jymmm: sorry, down at 2.6.17
[06:13] <bascule> !deeveedee > bascule
[06:13] <Jymmm> dthacker: thanks
[06:14] <HardDisk> basically it uses fuse-utils and poweriso
[06:14] <HardDisk> for the mounting converting
[06:14] <HardDisk> anyway it's 8am, i gotta sleep cause family's having a big xmas dinner
[06:14] <Xerostyle> Dear internet, My sound does not work. How do I fix this terrible problem?
[06:14] <HardDisk> merry xmas all
[06:14] <crimsun> Xerostyle: help us help you.
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: Happy Holidays
[06:14] <HardDisk> Xerostyle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[06:15] <apallo> greetings everyone!
[06:15] <HardDisk> yea happy holidays, being all PC :)
[06:15] <HardDisk> seasons greetings I suppose to
[06:15] <Benalex> HardDisk: XmaS :)
[06:15] <bascule> happy solstice (a day late I know)
[06:15] <nickrud> merry Christmas HardDisk
[06:15] <HardDisk> yea well they have to be politically correct nowadays
[06:15] <apallo> has adobe fixed their flash package yet? gnash isn't working for me
[06:15] <Xerostyle> Ok, I'm on a Compaq Presario V6000 (The bane of linux, I know) and I can't get the sound to work
[06:15] <HardDisk> don't know why
[06:16] <HardDisk> I personally don't do the religious parts, I just like the food
[06:16] <HardDisk> ok too much offtopic..later fellas
[06:16] <tdoggette> How can I make VLC the embedded video player in Firefox instead of Totem?
[06:16] <nickrud> tdoggette, remove totem-mozilla , and install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Xerostyle: start with the link HardDisk provided
[06:16] <tdoggette> nickrud, thanks.
[06:20] <Xerostyle> Ok, So I checked the link, and it's complete jibberish to me (aka, I'm a nub). I think it says I have a card installed, but I still don't understand next to anything for it, and I'm not sure what's up.
[06:20] <Xerostyle> It does let me control my volume controls and the sort
[06:20] <Xerostyle> I just don't know past this, why sound doesn't come from my internal speakers or headphone jack
[06:21] <skullhead> any one know any thing about the psx emulator epsxe???
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> apallo: not yet
[06:21] <apallo> yay, the "fixed" version of flash from the wiki is working for me!
[06:22] <Missy18> how can i scan network printers automatically .. i have tried cups but it doesn't find the printer installed on the same network, is there any other package that will auto install shared printers on the network?
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> apallo: Only fear is it borking when the real fix comes down
[06:23] <apallo> yuh
[06:23] <apallo> well.....i just wont upgrade to the real fix then
[06:23] <apallo> heh
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> apallo: Even then we will have a way to fix things
[06:23] <bulmer> Missy18-> do you expect those printers to advertise its service?
[06:24] <umdesch4> Total n00b question alert! Why, every time I reboot or login/out, do I need to go to a terminal and 'sudo ifup eth1' to get my internet connection to work?
[06:24] <apallo> that's why i love this OS
[06:24] <nickrud> apallo, you can put it on hold, when it comes down you can remove it before installing the real fix
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> we try
[06:24] <apallo> things are fixed relatively quickly
[06:24] <apallo> there's that too nickrud
[06:24] <abdulla> hello
[06:25] <joe7d6> any advice for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/152206     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552311&page=2
[06:25] <Missy18> bulmer, yes .. they should appear in the auto scan
[06:25] <nickrud> umdesch4, look at /etc/network/interfaces , is there a line    auto eth1   ?
[06:25] <NeoGeo64> jesus gnome keeps crashing
[06:25] <NeoGeo64> why
[06:25] <Missy18> bulmer, with SUSE it works fine .. the auto detect and install .. but with ubuntu it does nothing
[06:25] <bulmer> Missy18-> umm how would a cups system detect the printer? lest it advertize? do you know the ip address of the printer?
[06:25] <NeoGeo64> gnome has crashed 4 times
[06:25] <abdulla> the linux alter of Windows Movie Maker ? can any1 appoint me a great easy app for linux to make the same job as movie maker
[06:25] <twiztr> I need help setting up GRUB to detect my WinXP installation?
[06:25] <NeoGeo64> i dont know why
[06:26] <twiztr> Anyone know any good guide?
[06:26] <roccity> what's wrong with your grub
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> NeoGeo64: It works for everyone else, so we need to figure out what is different about your system, what you installed, or repos that were changed etc?
[06:26] <umdesch4> nickrud: should there be? (I'll have to check a little later, I'm doing this from a different machine)
[06:26] <nickrud> twiztr,  do you see a grub menu when you boot?
[06:26] <roccity> you should of been able to detect it during install
[06:26] <Missy18> bulmer, I know the ip but thats not the point .. cups manager should atlest find the printer .. just like yast does on SUSE
[06:26] <abdulla> can any1 recommend me a program that alters Windows Movie MakeR???
[06:26] <roccity> try sudo updat-grub
[06:27] <Benalex> abdulla: assuming that you are using ubuntu , go to add/remove and search for "edit video"
[06:27] <Myrtti> Missy18: apparmor
[06:27] <skullhead> can some one plz help me with epsxe psx emulator???
[06:27] <nickrud> umdesch4, could be, depends on if it was set with networkmanager or otherwise, come back when you have the linux machine at hand.
[06:27] <bulmer> Missy18-> not quite true, printer do not advertize it services,  lpd does just does not do it
[06:27] <Missy18> Myrtti, wats that?
[06:27] <abdulla> Benalex, forgot about that :p
[06:27] <umdesch4> ok, thanks!
[06:27] <abdulla> thank you btw
[06:28] <nickrud> umdesch4, that wasn't meant to sound dismissive, it's just easier if we can see what's there
[06:28] <Myrtti> Missy18: you're using an hp printer?
[06:28] <Benalex> abdulla: welcome
[06:28] <Xerostyle> My card is  nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) if that helps anyone. These cards are strange, and that tutorial hasn't helped me too much
[06:28] <umdesch4> too true...
[06:28] <umdesch4> I'll be back in a bit, hopefully from there...
[06:28] <twiztr> nickrud: Yea, but it only give me access to mint.
[06:28] <Myrtti> Missy18: or network printing?
[06:28] <twiztr> nickrud: Win doesnt even show up on the list
[06:28] <nickrud> twiztr, ok, what partition is your windows on?
[06:29] <Missy18> bulmer, tell me something if i am missing something here .. i have an ubuntu box and a suse box .. the ubuntu box cannot discover the printer but the suse box does .. wats the difference?
[06:29] <Benalex> skullhead: join #psx.rar at irc.rizon.net
[06:29] <Missy18> Myrtti, yes i am using an HP printer
[06:29] <Missy18> Myrtti, yes i am using an HP printer attched to a ubuntu box
[06:29] <bulmer> Missy18-> how is the printer attached to the network?
[06:29] <twiztr> nickrud: the second drive
[06:29] <Myrtti> Missy18: then it might just be apparmor.
[06:29] <nickrud> twiztr, and the partition of the second drive?
[06:29] <skullhead> Benalex: thx
[06:30] <twiztr> its the only partition on the drive
[06:30] <twiztr> so scsi2 i think
[06:30] <underdaw1> how do i change the requirement fo rthe user to confirm VNC login through bash?
[06:30] <bulmer> Missy18-> are they on same subnet as the ubuntu box? ie printer and ubuntu ?
[06:30] <Benalex> skullhead: welome... you may search for more channel at http://searchirc.com
[06:30] <Missy18> bulmer, it is installed on a ubuntu box as shared printer .. it is not connected to the ethernet directly
[06:30] <Missy18> bulmer, yes same subnet
[06:30] <underdaw1> for some reason my hamachi install isnt working through ssh
[06:30] <Myrtti> I've not have the urls, but it's a known problem
[06:31] <nickrud> twiztr, no, that's the drive; like sdb1 or sdb2 ,   sudo fdisk -l  should give you an idea
[06:31] <Xerostyle> Anybody know my current problem?
[06:31] <Missy18> bulmer, let me check the subnet again .. brb
[06:31] <nickrud> twiztr, ah, only partition, missed that
[06:31] <Koffo> Anyone know what's wrong when Wine doesnt save your settings?
[06:32] <twiztr> OH, thats why... nevermind :( My dad deleted it because he couldn't boot into Windows so I tried to reinstall it
[06:32] <twiztr> :(
[06:32] <twiztr> Fuck.
[06:32] <nickrud> twiztr, add the stanza in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49460/  to the very end of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:32] <Benalex> twiztr: hey take it easy :)
[06:32] <twiztr> I just finished reinstalling WinXP and doing all the update on a slow Clearwire connection
[06:33] <underdaw1> I'm following the ubuntu hamachi/vnc directions and it worked on my local box, but it's not working on my 7.10 ssh remote box... when I type the sudo hamachi-init -c /etc/hamachi nothing happens... and when I do a ls in /etc I don't see hamachi... any suggestions? basically hamachi isnt installing in /etc and therefore i can't do a hamachi-init
[06:33] <twiztr> I guess I will be back in awhile. :(
[06:33] <nickrud> twiztr, keep that reference, you might need it
[06:33] <twiztr> I will. :)
[06:33] <twiztr> Talk to you in a bit, everyone.
[06:34] <bascule> underdaw1: from source?
[06:34] <underdaw1> i'm installing it from the tar
[06:34] <bascule> underdaw1: are you sure it compiled?
[06:34] <underdaw1> a clue is I have to sudo when I do tar or it doesn't extract
[06:34] <ompaul> !compiling | underdaw1
[06:34] <ubotu> underdaw1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[06:34] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "When an event occurs, acpid executes programs to handle the event. The programs which it executes are configured through a set of configuration files. The configuration files can be dropped into place by packages or by the admin." Where can I find this set of confuguration files?
[06:34] <underdaw1> ompaul: I didn't have to compile it on my local box
[06:35] <underdaw1> i basically followed the forum dirs and it worked
[06:35] <underdaw1> but my remote box isn't so easily working
[06:35] <nickrud> bullgard4, /etc/acpi
[06:35] <ompaul> underdaw1, ehh I suppose the other box does not have the /etc/apt/sources.list you have
[06:35] <underdaw1> that's just a repository list, right?
[06:35] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you.
[06:35] <bascule> bullgard4: /etc/acpi/
[06:36] <underdaw1> ompaul that's just a repo list rigth?
[06:36] <bullgard4> bascule: Thank you.
[06:36] <ompaul> underdaw1, yes, however the word just might be an issue, sudo apt-get update on the remote box first
[06:36] <underdaw1> ompaul: this was a wget download :/
[06:36] <underdaw1> not an apt-get install
[06:36] <Missy18> bulmer, if i put the ip directly it detects .. but the printer doesnot appear in the scan list .. subnet is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:36] <nickrud> *just a repo list* , it's the heart of an ubuntu install !
[06:37] <ompaul> underdaw1, I am suggesting a way around doing wget
[06:37] <underdaw1> ompaul: it's not in any of the repos
[06:37] <underdaw1> thank you for your effort
[06:37] <underdaw1> though
[06:37] <underdaw1> it's nice of you to try to help
[06:37] <taurusivy> bascule: hi, which release of the kernel 2.4 series do you find the changlog planning for backporting latest version of 8139too?
[06:37] <nickrud> lol
[06:38] <ompaul> nickrud, ?
[06:38] <ompaul> ahh I see it
[06:38] <underdaw1> why would I have to sudo the tar.gz file when dirs don't call for this and i don't think I had to on my local box?
[06:38] <nickrud> ompaul, you don't deserve that, so it was funny
[06:38] <ompaul> nickrud, hehe
[06:39] <ompaul> underdaw1, who downloaded the item, and where did they save it
[06:39] <ompaul> if that does not answer the question then I guess you got something wrong remotely
[06:39] <underdaw1> I downloaded it with wget into it's own directory
[06:39] <Sonja> what font is the word "Ubuntu" wirtten in?
[06:39] <Fujitsu> Sonja: Ubuntu.
[06:39] <dragonforce99> how do i get flash player to work? i tried gnash but it just fucked everything up
[06:39] <underdaw1> should I chmod the dir to 777 or something?
[06:39] <underdaw1> or the file?
[06:39] <Missy18> is there a IM server and client software that I can install locally and use for my LAN users?
[06:39] <Sonja> lulz
[06:39] <Myrtti> !language | dragonforce99
[06:39] <ubotu> dragonforce99: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:40] <Mystamax> hey guys, I had to reset my wifi router, and so I deleted the keyring entry for the SSID and password. Now every time I connect to this particular wifi network, I have to enter the password. It won't save the password? whats wrong?
[06:40] <Fujitsu> Sonja: Ubuntu Title, sorry. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[06:40] <ompaul> underdaw1, you actually did not answer the specific question I asked, which user downloaded it
[06:40] <bascule> taurusivy: the planning I wouldn't know, the changelog ships with every release and contains changes about that release
[06:40] <dragonforce99> Myrtti: right, because I'm sure everyone, their daughter, and their grandmother reads this channel, it HAS to be family friendly
[06:40] <kahrytan> Sonja➲  why you ask?
[06:41] <underdaw1> sudo
[06:41] <underdaw1> sorry
[06:41] <Xerostyle> Ok, so no help in that tutorial, and googling aroud desn
[06:41] <underdaw1> sudo wget
[06:41] <Myrtti> dragonforce99: exactly
[06:41] <Xerostyle> t help at all
[06:41] <underdaw1> I can only sudo wget wont get a dl if I don't sudo it
[06:41] <ompaul> underdaw1, why? wget works for uers
[06:41] <bulmer> Missy18-> whats the content of your /etc/cups/cups.d/browse.conf ?
[06:41] <bascule> dragonforce99: not all, but enough to make respecting their reactions an important consideration
[06:41] <underdaw1> wasn't working in this I guess I sudo mkdir
[06:41] <underdaw1> that's leading me up the right trail
[06:41] <kahrytan> Sonja➲ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[06:41] <underdaw1> thanks
[06:41] <MrPiracy> is it possible to install kiba-docks on gutsy biggon?
[06:41] <ompaul> sudo mkdir ..... thats nuts
[06:42] <underdaw1> <---- noob
[06:42] <ompaul> do it in your home directory
[06:42] <ompaul> as yourself
[06:42] <Missy18> bulmer, blank on client box
[06:42] <underdaw1> ompaul: ty for hanging with me
[06:42] <dragonforce99> now anyway, can someone help me please?
[06:42] <taurusivy> bascule: so how do you know that the driver *will* be backported in latest 2.4?
[06:42] <bulmer> Missy18-> you may have to have that as "Browse on"
[06:43] <bulmer> Missy18-> you may have to have that as "Browsing on"
[06:43] <taurusivy> bascule: since it's the existence changes in current release of the kernel
[06:43] <Missy18> bulmer, on the client box?
[06:43] <bascule> taurusivy: if bugs and misimplementations show in 2.6 series then they will make it back to 2.4 if it is affected, have you seen other reports of these bugs?
[06:43] <bulmer> Missy18-> also look in the /etc/cups/printers.conf  and see what is the url of that hp printer
[06:44] <ompaul> dragonforce99, from the topic of this channel:     Adobe Flash plugin installation is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash »
[06:44] <Myrtti> dragonforce99: the flashplugin can be downloaded an installed from Adobe site
[06:44] <umdesch4> nickrud: you got it in one...I editted an "auto eth1" into /etc/network/interfaces, and that did the trick.
[06:44] <bulmer> rather DeviceURI socket
[06:44] <umdesch4> thanks again!
[06:44] <kahrytan> Sonja➲  Hello?
[06:44] <Myrtti> dragonforce99: if everything else fails
[06:44] <taurusivy> bascule: no, but the bug is fixed in 2.6.15 since i know. so i wonder when the fix will be applied back to 2.4
[06:45] <nickrud> umdesch4, yw
[06:45] <ompaul> taurusivy, 2.4 kernel?
[06:45] <chcampb> If i needed to change the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable to include wherever I put zziplib how would I do this? i cant find anything specific, just general examples using export that i cant find a pattern with
[06:45] <Mystamax> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:45] <bascule> taurusivy: I don't know, try linux.kernel via google -> groups
[06:46] <bascule> taurusivy: and even then only if 2.4 series is affected
[06:46] <ompaul> taurusivy, ubuntu does not support the 2.4 kernel going forward you need to look to kernel.org
[06:46] <taurusivy> bascule: or it's already fixed after 2.4.32 which i used now.
[06:46] <bascule> taurusivy: quite posible
[06:46] <sparr> bascule: how can i check for conflicting IRQs, or to see if the sound driver is at fault?
[06:47] <RealityGone> Hello everyone. I am attempting to configure dual-monitors in ubuntu (i have a laptop with a 19" CRT connected). I can make the image look okay, but the cursor turns into a square of squiggled lines. Does anyone know what could be done about this? Maybe it is a video card issue?
[06:47] <ompaul> !sound | sparr
[06:47] <ubotu> sparr: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:47] <kahrytan> Sonja➲  Hello?
[06:47] <bascule> sparr: dunno on irqs, mute the sound for the game see if that improves things
[06:47] <sparr> ompaul: thanks for the nonhelp
[06:47] <schwepps> why does gutsy not have virtual terminals?
[06:47] <sparr> schwepps: what makes you think it doesnt?
[06:47] <taurusivy> ok, i wil check out
[06:47] <ompaul> !xinerama | RealityGone
[06:47] <akant2> Hello all
[06:47] <ubotu> RealityGone: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:48] <schwepps> sparr, it does, but it's 640x480 or something
[06:48] <akant2> Any idea how to find out what files are taking up space on my HD?  df -h shows me out of space on /
[06:48] <RealityGone> thanks a lot, ubotu =D
[06:48] <akant2> I added everything up and I cant find where it is used
[06:48] <RealityGone> !DualHead
[06:48] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:48] <nickrud> Mystamax, you might try finding the right network in gconf-editor , under system/networking/wireless/networks/ , and then running  gconftool  --recursive-unset /system/networking/wireless/networks/<name> , that will force a new authentication and save
[06:48] <bascule> taurusivy: the changelog is in the source of each release, it would be mentioned, I guess changelog files are available on the ftp mirrors too, they just tend to be huge
[06:48] <RealityGone> err, thanks ompaul  =P
[06:48] <RealityGone> :)
[06:49] <ompaul> RealityGone, np, yw
[06:49] <Xerostyle> Is anyone able to help me?\
[06:49] <chcampb> :'(
[06:49] <underdaw1> does anyone know the conf file I need to edit to disable the need for the user to confirm a vnc connection?
[06:49] <umdesch4> Anyone know what the ubuntu equivalent of a .xsession file is (or where the .xsession file is, I can't find it!)
[06:50] <nickrud> Xerostyle, sound help is hard to find, every card seems to have it's own quirk
[06:50] <Xerostyle> Ah
[06:50] <Xerostyle> Well, I am a noob
[06:50] <bascule> akant2: as a laborious exercise df -h > usage.txt and go through it
[06:50] <chcampb> and BTW "No manual entry for export." somehow im supposed to figure out an example like --  export CLASSPATH=${fop_dir}/build/fop.jar:${fop_dir}/lib/batik.jar:${fop_dir}/lib/avalon-framework-cvs-20020806.jar:${CLASSPATH}
[06:50] <Xerostyle> So I will deal with it later
[06:50] <ompaul> !ask | xerophyte
[06:50] <ubotu> xerophyte: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:50] <sparr> schwepps: you want svga virtual terminals?  install svgatextmode, or use kernel vga=[something]
[06:50] <taurusivy> bascule: yes, i know this. but i wanna quick search in which release the bug is fixed instead of untarring every successive release of 2.4.32
[06:50] <akant2> bascule: I tried using the Disk Analyzer program but it wont show what is happening
[06:51] <nickrud> umdesch4, .xsession , you can create it (gdm will use it if you select xsession on login)
[06:51] <schwepps> sparr, ok, thanks
[06:51] <chcampb> ok, if i could get any response, a STFU or something would be nice, sorry to bother and all
[06:51] <bascule> taurusivy: they*changelogs) are available on ftp sites
[06:52] <taurusivy> bascule: you mean this:ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub
[06:52] <umdesch4> nickrud: Ok, so if I don't have one, what is it using now? I have two monitors, and although they're both working, there's some settings I'd like to change.
[06:52] <bascule> akant2: du -h / > usage.txt will give a start
[06:52] <nickrud> umdesch4, ah, you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:52] <Mystamax> nickrud: I'm going to try that now, brb
[06:52] <umdesch4> nickrud: perfect! Thanks yet again
[06:52] <nickrud> Mystamax, maybe :)
[06:52] <r0bby> any idea if microsoft webcams are supported on linux (that sounds like such a troll question :/ and such an oxymoron one too)
[06:52] <DARKGuy> Hey, is there any program to map my controller buttons/joysticks/axes to keyboard keys (similar to XPadder/PPJoy for Windows)?
[06:53] <bulmer> chcampb-> what is the issue with the CLASSPATH?
[06:53] <akant2> bascule: I know I have it used in my root, but using the percentages listed by disk anaylyzer shows everything ok
[06:53] <akant2> I have done fsck ..etc no problems
[06:53] <ompaul> !webcams | r00723r0
[06:53] <ubotu> r00723r0: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:53] <ompaul> !webcams | r0bby
[06:53] <ubotu> r0bby: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:53] <r0bby> i know
[06:53] <ompaul> so that lists the cameras
[06:53] <r0bby> ompaul: no ms cams listed :(
[06:53] <r0bby> good point :/
[06:54] <bascule> taurusivy: yes 2:#ubuntu(+JLcfnt)] [Act: 1]
[06:54] <bascule> [#ubuntu] taurusivy: yes
[06:54]  * r0bby sighs
[06:54] <bascule> taurusivy: ftp://ftp.uk.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4
[06:55] <beat_> hey
[06:55] <chcampb> Okay, heres an example, pkg-config has a command that looks like --define-variable=VARIABLENAME=VARIABLE_VALUE how do i change this to add /home/chcampb/source/zziplib without clobbering it?
[06:55] <beat_> i have a problem
[06:55] <beat_> i am setting compiz to my dcestop
[06:55] <chcampb> because the existing PkKG_CONFIG_PATH has info in it, that i would not like to brea
[06:55] <chcampb> k
[06:55] <ompaul> !compiz | beat_
[06:55] <ubotu> beat_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:55] <beat_> normally my graphic card maxmresolution 1280 800
[06:55] <beat_> hmm
[06:55] <beat_> oki
[06:55] <bascule> chcampb: pkg-config has a conf filesomewhere I am sure
[06:56] <ToastGuy> hello all.
[06:56] <chcampb> how would I go about finding it?
[06:56] <DARKGuy> Hey, is there any program to map my controller buttons/joysticks/axes to keyboard keys (similar to XPadder/PPJoy for Windows)?
[06:56] <zupb> hello all :)
[06:57] <bascule> chcampb: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/new/path
[06:57] <chcampb> TBH im not fluent in the directory conventions yet, would that be in bin, or usr, or the home directory, or where would i even start to look for a configuration file for pkg-config?
[06:57] <chcampb> ok
[06:57] <chcampb> ill try that
[06:58] <ompaul> DARKGuy, you could try xev  and .Xmodmap but I would spend a fair amount of time looking for FAQs on the subject to see what is really needed
[06:58] <bascule> chcampb: why are you messing with pkg-config if you are so unaware?
[06:58] <neumind> how in ubuntu system open .mdf file?
[06:58] <lgc> !pda
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <lgc> !pilot
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pilot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <lgc> !palm
[06:58] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[06:58] <bascule> !sync
[06:58] <ompaul> lgc, what is the actual question
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <kahrytan> !msg
[06:59] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:59] <lgc> Hi, ompaul. It's that I can't synchronise my Palm on 7.10.
[06:59] <kahrytan> lgc➲  use /msg ubotu  instead of spamming channel.
[06:59] <ompaul> lgc, does this help:  http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[06:59] <ToastGuy> ubotu: well said
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about well said - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <lgc> kahrytan, what's your problem?
[07:00] <lgc> ompaul, let me check the link, thanks.
[07:01] <Missy18> bulmer, thanks its working now
[07:01] <Missy18> is there a Instant Messenger software that I can install locally and use for my LAN users?
[07:01] <ompaul> you could do irc
[07:02] <ompaul> and connect to it with pidgin
[07:02] <kahrytan> lgc➲  nothing
[07:02] <nickrud> Missy18, some people like jabber for that
[07:02] <ToastGuy> Why are my MP3 files not playing in Rhythmbox?
[07:02] <ToastGuy> "failed to change state"
[07:02] <ompaul> !restrictedformats | ToastGuy
[07:02] <ubotu> ToastGuy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:02] <pvl1> has anyone got gnump3d to work with gutsy?
[07:03] <taurusivy> bascule: thanks for your patience, but i still can't find the info in all the changelog from 2.4.33 to <IP_ADDRESS> :(
[07:03] <chcampb> wow, this is ridiculous
[07:03] <ToastGuy> ubotu: thanks
[07:03] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:03] <Missy18> nickrud, is there an howto available?
[07:04] <chcampb> now pkg-config has the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable set to exactly where the zziplib is, but it is still not recognizing it :'(
[07:04] <fekall> heya...
[07:04] <nickrud> Missy18, http://jabberd.org/support/howto/
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> if I need to add some options to the kernel line during boot, and want to make it a default option that won't periodically be overwritten by kernel updates, where in the menu.lst file would I place it?
[07:05] <fekall> trying to get avant window navigator loaded on my machine
[07:05] <fekall> wait..nm
[07:05] <Missy18> nickrud, thanks
[07:05] <chcampb> oh and bascule: its for ogre3d, i need to build it from source, and zziplib is a dependency, but zziplib is apparently not set up correctly on this version of ubuntu
[07:05] <bascule> taurusivy: well it might nit affect 2.4 branch
[07:05] <bqmassey> whats the syntax to purge a package?
[07:06] <ToastGuy> ubotu: I don't need a manual on playing MP3's why I'm just asking what is this error message telling me?
[07:06] <ompaul> bqmassey,  sudo apt-get remove --purge package :: don't forget to remove local user config files
[07:06] <ompaul> !bot
[07:06] <nickrud> Missy18, erm, that's a misleading link, you'd think jabber docs would have a good howto easy to find A sec
[07:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:06] <bqmassey> thanks ompaul
[07:06] <Kalamansi> hello guys i cannot connect pc2 to the internet using firestarter... pc1 is connected... modem ---> server ubuntu pc1 ---> switch -- Pc2 workstation
[07:06] <abdulla> kino and all the linux video edit that i know cant do the job of Windows Movie Maker , it says i need a .dv file to import and it cant take pictures rather then videos.... any help guys>?
[07:06] <ToastGuy> lol... a bot
[07:06] <fekall> ok..
[07:07] <ompaul> ToastGuy, the bot was asked to inform you how to do get mp3s working that web page contained those instructions
[07:07] <fekall> what is the command in terminal to get the avant window navigator?
[07:07] <bazzieb> what is the easiest way to change permissions on a HDD??
[07:07] <bqmassey> fekall:  maybe   apt-get install awn
[07:07] <fekall> like sudo-get avant windows navigator?
[07:07] <fekall> ok
[07:07] <fekall> will try that
[07:07] <ToastGuy> ompaul: thanks.... so is there any help?
[07:08] <pvl1> abdulla: what do you mean? as far as i remember, they can do all of that
[07:08] <ToastGuy> I'm confused.
[07:08] <ompaul> bazzieb, you really should never need to do that - you will break stuff
[07:08] <ompaul> !restricted | ToastGuy (read the web page)
[07:08] <ubotu> ToastGuy (read the web page): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <ToastGuy> "file is not an audio stream"
[07:08] <ToastGuy> What does that mean?
[07:08] <ompaul> it means that it is not the right type for something to read
[07:08] <abdulla> you sure pvl1 ? im trying to import jpeg , jpg , png and bmp  pictures that i got and it gives me an error
[07:08] <ToastGuy> the manual is not helping
[07:08] <bazzieb> its a usb HDD and it wont let me fdisk it!!!
[07:08] <pvl1> Toastguy: audio streams are media tahts served from somewhere, not an actual file
[07:09] <ToastGuy> pvl1: okay... that makes sense... I'm doing this over a network
[07:09] <zetheroo> is it possible to send offlines with Pidgin?
[07:09] <abdulla> pvl1, error like this Failed to load media file "/home/abdulla/Pictures/.......a.jpg.dv"
[07:09] <pvl1> abdulla: oh i see. well im not too sure about that. google the application, maybe theres a forum or something. i dont see why that function wouldnt be implemented
[07:10] <skullhead> with any browsers i use i have these problems in youtube if i manualy install my flash player 9 from the officail website i hear nothing and if i install the nonfree fix or wat ever its called in the synaptic package manger dos any one know what my problem is???/
[07:10] <ToastGuy> So, what do I need to do to correct this issue with RythmBox?
[07:10] <abdulla> this function should be implemented how can somebody edit a great video sequence without such function :/
[07:10] <pvl1> abdulla: is the jpg name have .dv at the end?
[07:10] <zetheroo> anyone?
[07:10] <pvl1> or free frames
[07:10] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> is the pc1 enabled for port forwarding?
[07:10] <pvl1> zethero: yea
[07:10] <abdulla> pvl1, no but i get a message when i import /home/abdulla/Pictures/71613-1.jpg" is not a DV file. Do you want to import it?
[07:11] <bazzieb> could someone help me with GPARTED pls??
[07:11] <abdulla> then i get that failed to load ..... error
[07:11] <pvl1> abdulla: hm i wouldnt know exactly about that
[07:11] <pvl1> bazzieb, whats up?
[07:11] <neumind> wher i can get program wher she open .mdf files?
[07:12] <bazzieb> there is a lock under the partition section and i need to delete that partition
[07:12] <pvl1> bazzieb: did u unmount or eject it?
[07:12] <bazzieb> no
[07:12] <neumind> wher i can get program wher she open .mdf files?
[07:13] <pvl1> bazzieb you need to unmount the partion first
[07:13] <ompaul> neumind, there are many different types of program that generate mdf files which one are you looking for?
[07:13] <MeanderingCode> There's a lot of people here so i wouldn't be surprised if i find no response, but has anyone replaced proprietary restricted atheros wireless drivers with madwifi?  I want to, but don't know how to extract the restricted ones and wireless has been a nightmare in the past, so i'm hesitant to try
[07:13] <bazzieb> ok cool
[07:13] <bazzieb> thks
[07:13] <Jandy> Hi
[07:13] <ompaul> neumind, http://filext.com/file-extension/mdf  for details
[07:13] <neumind> ompaul,  i dont know.. just i want open that file
[07:13] <pvl1> bazzieb:np
[07:13] <Kalamansi> bulmer : how to know if its enabled?how to setup ?thanks
[07:14] <pvl1> meanderingcode: why?
[07:14] <ere4si> I'm trying to install the java plugin for firefox and the link I make to the java lib is always broken - how do I get it to work pls?
[07:14] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> before we can even get that far, does pc2 have an ip address assigned? from which dhcp server?
[07:14] <zetheroo> pvl1: which version of Pidgin supports offline messaging?
[07:15] <pvl1> ere4si install java from the package mamner
[07:15] <MeanderingCode> pvl1:  the binary drivers don't work for some things...for example, i couldn't change the mode of the card to set up and access point when there was one cable and three laptops
[07:15] <neumind> ompaul, so.
[07:15] <ompaul> neumind, I suggest you find out its source first - try "file  whateverfilename.mdf" on the command line and see if it knows anything about it
[07:15] <ere4si> pvl1: done that and had no luck... - still no plugin
[07:15] <sexcopter> hi, i'm currently in a different country to my parents who use windows (i use ubuntu), and am wondering, is there a way for me to remotely tinker with their pc to fix problems and demonstrate stuff?
[07:15] <pvl1> zetheroo: they all do. its a plugin that does that
[07:16] <neumind> ompaul, in that file is windows pro.. and i need open that file... i windows i can that file open witch daemons tools
[07:16] <neumind> but this is ubuntu
[07:16] <pvl1> meanderingcode: sorry i got nuthin, just thought there could be an easier way to what u wanted to do
[07:16] <bulmer> sexcopter-> choice of  rdp, freenx, vnc
[07:16] <ompaul> neumind, I know nothing of windows so what does windows pro do?
[07:16] <MeanderingCode> pvl1:  thanks for the thought
[07:16] <badkitty> sexcopter of course there is a way to do that VNC is a good one
[07:16] <MeanderingCode> anyone else?
[07:16] <Jakal> hye everyone. ive got a problem. ubuntu tells me my hard drive is full. i run mythtv on it. but the recordings on it dont even come close to filling up the hard drive. is there a program that will tell me some of the larger files on the drive?
[07:17] <zetheroo> pvl1: oh ?  a plugin?.... which one?.. where do I get it?
[07:17] <sexcopter> bulmer, badkitty: great, thanks I'll look into that
[07:17] <neumind> ompaul,  windows professional
[07:17] <pvl1> ere4si: well theres also firefox plugins
[07:17] <pvl1> zetheroo: go through tools, plugins
[07:17] <aaisen> Hello, does anyone no how to output a binary file as the actual 1's and 0's it is made of in ascii?
[07:17] <ToastGuy> Can anyone help me with RhythmBox?
[07:17] <pvl1> any chance any evil XP developers here?
[07:17] <pvl1> Toastguy whats up?
[07:18] <Jandy> Is there anyone in China?
[07:18] <ere4si> pvl1: that always sends me to manual install - and I can only make broken links...
[07:18] <bulmer> aaisen-> dont forget ascii is only 7 bits...how are you going to handle the 8th bit?
[07:18] <pvl1> ere4si: did you try synaptic?
[07:18] <ToastGuy> pvl1: Well I'm still dealing with  the inability to play MP3 files
[07:18] <tarelerulz> What is an good ssh client and sever ?  I have it set up on my old computer ,but I forgot  what I had on my old system ?
[07:18] <badkitty> openssh?
[07:19] <pvl1> ToastGuy: u need to isntall a package that deals with the MP3 files bc they are restricted
[07:19] <zetheroo> pvl1: is it the Offline Message Emulation plugin?
[07:19] <ToastGuy> pvl1: restrictive??
[07:19] <ToastGuy> pvl1: Where do I find that plugin?
[07:19] <ere4si> pvl1: yep - and it installed java1.4 and gave me no plugin - I've enabled java in firefox's preferences
[07:19] <aaisen> bulmer, I don't actually want the ascii represenation of the file, I want the one's and zeroes that are in the file in ascii.  for example, if I have an image file, I'd like a stream of the thousands of one's and zeroes that compose it, in ascii.
[07:19] <pvl1> zetheroo: shoudl be
[07:19] <aaisen> bulmer, cont... so the output is a huge ascii file of "1001110101..."
[07:20] <ompaul> neumind, google tells me that, that is a platform not an application, you need to tell us what application, what kind of information is in it
[07:20] <pvl1> Toastguy: yup, too slow down downloading of MP3's. hold on a sec
[07:20] <ToastGuy> pvl1: what does that mean?
[07:20] <Missy18> nickrud, is there any other easier IM server then jabber :)
[07:20] <bulmer> aaisen-> again how would you like to display it? if its 8 bits?
[07:20] <tarelerulz> Don't Ubuntu 7.10 come with both a sever and client for ssh ?
[07:20] <calm> Evince is exceedingly slow for me in "Fit Page Width" mode, but it's absolutely responsive and snappy at any other (fixed) zoom level. Why is this happening? How do I fix this? And, have other people been reporting this? (I'm using Gutsy. I never encountered this problem in Feisty.)
[07:20] <pvl1> ere4si: what about the java website?
[07:21] <ToastGuy> pvl1: ok. I will hold.
[07:21] <ompaul> calm, check launchpad.net to find out if it is a known bug (maybe it is that doc only)
[07:21] <ere4si> pvl1: that's where the manual install takes me
[07:21] <pvl1> Toastguy: theres many applications that are referred to as P2P (peer to peer) which offer and download MP3 files. this is illegal if downloading copyrighted material
[07:21] <calm> tarelerulz: Ubuntu comes with an ssh client, but not the server. The ssh server everyone uses is OpenSSH. You can install the "ssh" package in Synaptic to get it.
[07:21] <ere4si> pvl1: got java 1.6 from there
[07:22] <pvl1> ere4si: w8 if you got it, y do u need to manually install it?
[07:22] <ToastGuy> pvl1: okay so.. why do I have to get a separate plugin for MP3 files?
[07:22] <aaisen> bulmer, I think I don't know enough about how files are encoded to answer your question.  All I want is a huge list of the 1's and 0's in a file.  Aren't all files, no matter how they are encoded just a long list of 1's and 0's?  I want to know what those 1's and 0's are.
[07:22] <ompaul> tarelerulz, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:22] <GreySim> ToastGuy: Legal issues.
[07:23] <ere4si> pvl1: I need to link the java plugin to firefox - and every time I make the link it is broken
[07:23] <ToastGuy> Grey: ok
[07:23] <pvl1> Toastguy: aye what greysim said
[07:23] <bulmer> aaisen-> they are grouped, depends on the structure designed by the system using it..
[07:23] <pvl1> ere4si: firefox has its own plugins tho
[07:23] <abdulla> pvl1, kdenlive is great :) just what i was looking for
[07:23] <ToastGuy> pvl1: Okay so, where do I get the plugin? And how do I install it?
[07:24] <abdulla> but still under development
[07:24] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:24] <bulmer> aaisen-> ascii is grouping it into 7 bits..
[07:24] <ere4si> pvl1: but trying to install them says I need to manually install - that takes me to sun - and .... broken link
[07:24] <pvl1> Toastguy: ok this should be how its done, go to applications at the top left, go down to add/remove
[07:24] <Jandy> Somebody help me!
[07:25] <abdulla> btw pvl1 kino can take pictures but the way to do it is abit complicated and needs much of the mouse pressing and indicating the picture files....
[07:25] <ToastGuy> pvl1: ok
[07:25] <aaisen> bulmer, for example, if i have an ascii file with the letter 'a', and want to know what those 7 bits are, is there a program that can output the 7 bits?
[07:25] <bulmer> aaisen-> then you got to find out where is the beginning and ending
[07:25] <ToastGuy> pvl1: done.
[07:25] <ToastGuy> search for what?
[07:25] <pvl1> ere4si: really? tahts odd, i got it through firefox's own plugins without having to manually install anything. sorry i dunno why that would happen
[07:25] <pvl1> TOastguy: ok clikc preferneces
[07:25] <abdulla> and btw kino is great pvl1 however it needs to be learned before i can use it massively but i cant :( my project is to be done by tomorrow so i must do something quick ;)
[07:25] <bulmer> aaisen-> there probably is, just dont know where they are, i have not used them
[07:25] <ere4si> pvl1: thnx for you efforts :)
[07:26] <aaisen> bulmer, ok, thanks anyway.  :)
[07:26] <ToastGuy> pvl1: I'm using ubuntu 6.x I don't see that
[07:26] <u> Schmick: are you alive?
[07:27] <user11_011> !java
[07:27] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:27] <Fujitsu> !mp3 | ToastGuy
[07:27] <ubotu> ToastGuy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:27] <pvl1> abdulla: look at the applications ubuntu media center has to offer. i forgot its exact name, btu that has the best
[07:27] <pvl1> Fujitsu: thanks
[07:27] <abdulla> btu ??? pvl1 ?
[07:27] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: Ubuntu 7.10 will automatically ask you if you want to install the MP3 codec, but 6.06 and 6.10 won't.
[07:28] <pvl1> abdulla: i meant but
[07:28] <abdulla> media center ?? a website? or .. pvl1
[07:28] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: So where do I find that option?
[07:28] <ToastGuy> pvl1: I don't see preferences
[07:28] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3, specifically.
[07:28] <Soskel> is apt-get install rsync mailx a threating command ?
[07:28] <Soskel> can apt-get install rsync mailx cause an harm to the server?
[07:28] <Fujitsu> Soskel: It will install rsync and mailx. Not particularly threatening.
[07:29] <Soskel> Fujitsu: any reason why it requires sudo ?
[07:29] <Fujitsu> Soskel: You can't install things without sudo.
[07:29] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: that so does not help
[07:29] <pvl1> soskel: it has to access restricted folders, to put stuff into
[07:29] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: How do you know?
[07:29] <Soskel> pvl1: do I need ssh to mirror ubuntu?
[07:30] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: Cuz I've already looked at that page before coming here
[07:30] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: Rhythmbox or Totem still won't play MP3s?
[07:30] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: it doesnt' say anything about RhythmBox
[07:30] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: I haven't tried Totem
[07:30] <pvl1> abdulla: its called ubuntu studio
[07:30] <pvl1> Soskel: no?
[07:31] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy:  Which instructions did you follow? Did you install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly?
[07:31] <Soskel> pvl1: are you familiar with mirroring?
[07:31] <pvl1> Fujitsu he's using 6.x
[07:31] <Fujitsu> pvl1: I am aware.
[07:31] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: No I didn't try that
[07:31] <pvl1> Soskel: i might be. tho im not really sure if its what im thinking of
[07:31] <pvl1> Fujitsu: oh sorry
[07:31] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: What *did* you try from that page, then?
[07:31] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: Nada
[07:32] <magic_ninja> why does the world hate xmms?
[07:32] <Fujitsu> magic_ninja: Because it's obsolete, unmaintained, gtk1.2, and generally bad?
[07:32] <Fujitsu> And we developers want to be rid of it as soon as possible?
[07:33] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu & pvl1: So how do I unstall gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly?
[07:33] <magic_ninja> Fujitsu: i tend to like it, its very resource unintensive, what makes it so bad, its just unmaintained?
[07:33] <ToastGuy> I mean INSTALL
[07:33] <ToastGuy> U and I are so close
[07:33] <ere4si> pvl1: learnt a lesson - copied and pasted the commands to install java - sun calls the file .s0 when it is .so - it's installed now !
[07:33] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: Follow the instructions on that page.
[07:33] <ToastGuy> Ok
[07:33] <Fujitsu> Oh, blergh, it doesn't explicitly say it any more.
[07:34] <Fujitsu> Open up Synaptic, and install it from there.
[07:34] <pvl1> ere4si: lol, well then congrats.
[07:34] <Apocalypse_dn> Hello! When i mounted AptOnCd *.iso file, synaptic can't add it. How can i add mounted .iso file to repositaries?
[07:34] <abdulla> what is ubuntu studio pvl1 ??
[07:34] <abdulla> btw pvl1 im lost in kdenlive lol :( its not hard but maybe coz im used to movie maker :s
[07:35] <pvl1> abdulla: ubuntu studio is a version of ubuntu, if you will, that revolves around media. movies, music, it tries to make it as easy as possible
[07:35] <slliness> where does wget save downloads
[07:35] <Fujitsu> slliness: The current directory.
[07:35] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu: Is "Dapper Drake" a synonym for Ubuntu 6.x?
[07:35] <magic_ninja> Fujitsu: so really people just want everyone to move onto banshee, rythmbox, amarok, etc?
[07:35] <Fujitsu> ToastGuy: Ubuntu 6.06, yes.
[07:35] <slliness> ah thanks Fujitsu
[07:35] <abdulla> pvl1, i must reinstall ubuntu ?  or is this an app?
[07:36] <Fujitsu> magic_ninja: Yes, or one of the XMMS forks like Audacious.
[07:36] <pvl1> abdulla: also, almost all open source applications have documentation
[07:36] <ToastGuy> Fujitsu & pvl1: Thanks guys... I will try installing in just a little bit
[07:36] <pvl1> abdulla : well with something do so soon i wouldnt recommend installing it bc it is more of an operating system.
[07:36] <Kalamansi> bulmer: its obtain...i set it as obtain...
[07:36] <slliness> Fujitsu, can you do multiple wget downloads w/o multiple terminals?
[07:36] <pvl1> ToastGuy: glad we can help
[07:37] <pvl1> abdulla: you should check for documentation of this kdenlive
[07:37] <abdulla> hope winE can install movie maker  :/
[07:37] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> obtain? obtain from which server?
[07:37] <Kalamansi> bulmer: from pc1...obtain pc2
[07:37] <pvl1> abdulla: i'd be surprised
[07:38] <Fujitsu> slliness: Not simultaneously, but you can specify multiple URLs and it will download them sequentially.
[07:38] <u> yep
[07:38] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> which of the two is acting as dhcp server(the one dolling out the ip address) ?
[07:39] <Kalamansi> bulmer : pc1 server ubuntu - dhcp enabled
[07:39] <pvl1> abdulla: to be honest, the one tihng ive found XP to have over linx, is the backspace for internet, maybe some apps, and uhm, visual studio
[07:39]  * Fujitsu prefers a terminal to VS any day.
[07:39] <Fujitsu> pvl1: Backspace for Internet?
[07:40] <abdulla> the ease to make just for a simple use and troll apps are in XP
[07:40] <pvl1> abdulla: all of which i easily live without, if not better. but the reason that its hard to find its counterpart is because microsoft makes it as XP as possible
[07:40] <pvl1> Fujitsu: if hit backspace it goes back a page
[07:40] <Fujitsu> pvl1: That's easily enabled in Firefox.
[07:40] <abdulla> but with ubuntu it has a flexibility to make the use a cruise with an applause while you go
[07:40] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> pc1 acquires its ip address from your ISP, and then pc2 acquires its ip address from where?
[07:40] <pvl1> Fujitsu: i just might have to throw this XP laptop. please enlighten me
[07:40] <slliness> Fujitsu, so wget http: one http: two and so on or is there alternate syntax?
[07:41] <pvl1> Fujitsu: i asked yseterday here and someone said that its only for XP
[07:41] <abdulla> thanks all :)
[07:41] <Fujitsu> pvl1: In about:config, find browser.backspace_action, and set it to 0
[07:41] <abdulla> got class..
[07:41] <pvl1> abdulal: np
[07:41] <Kalamansi> bulmer: i just obtain pc2..(xphome).. i tried to use <IP_ADDRESS> as the ip of pc2 and gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:41] <Kalamansi> bulmer still not working. pc2 have no internet connection
[07:41] <Fujitsu> slliness: wget http://blah.com/ http://blah.com/something/ http://...
[07:42] <slliness> Fujitsu, thanks
[07:42] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> you are not answering my question, pc2 is an xp machine right? it is getting a dynamic ip address from which dhcp server?
[07:43] <pvl1> Fujitsu: thank sooooooooooooo much
[07:43] <u> your welcome
[07:43] <Fujitsu> pvl1: No problem. Googling should have revealed it fairly quickly too, IIRC.
[07:44] <u> schmick ?
[07:44] <pvl1> has anyone gotten gnump3d to work in gutsy?
[07:45] <u> aw...
[07:45] <Kalamansi> bulmer: from <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:45] <magic_ninja> Fujitsu: ty brother, i did some reading i understand why now
[07:45] <Fujitsu> magic_ninja: No problem.
[07:46] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> okay, <IP_ADDRESS> is your pc1 ? and pc1 ip address towards the isp is?
[07:46] <magic_ninja> Fujitsu: think i'm going to install audacious
[07:46] <Fujitsu> pvl1: It should work, but please don't attempt to use the password protection.
[07:46] <badkitty> ah oh.. if I accidently zoom in to the desktop how do I excape out of it?
[07:46] <Fujitsu> badkitty: Hold the Windows key, then scroll.
[07:47] <badkitty> Fujitsu: Haha got it thanks
[07:47] <u> Alt+F4 twice
[07:47] <u> then press U
[07:47] <u> or R
[07:48] <Fujitsu> u...
[07:48] <u> F
[07:48] <u> Fu
[07:48] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> anyhow, minimum can your pc2 ping pc1?
[07:49] <jinxed-> hi. I get an error when I try to update from 7.04 to 7.10
[07:49] <u> what platform
[07:49] <Fujitsu> jinxed-: What error would that be? Have you used Automatix?
[07:49] <Fujitsu> Or any other third-party repositories?
[07:49] <jinxed-> Fujitsu, no I did not break rule number 1: I stayed away from automatix
[07:50]  * Fujitsu applauds jinxed-.
[07:50] <jinxed-> I can pastebin if you would like
[07:50] <Fujitsu> That would be good.
[07:50] <Kalamansi> bulmer : nope =/
[07:51] <jinxed-> Fujitsu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49462/
[07:51] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> if thats not successful, you will not get beyond pc1..make that work first thing..is your switch working okay?
[07:52] <Fujitsu> jinxed-: I see a third party repository there.
[07:52] <Kalamansi> bulmer yup
[07:52] <Fujitsu> Remove those Medibuntu entries in System->Administration->Software Sources.
[07:52] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> i can not guess, elaborate please
[07:52] <jinxed-> hmm
[07:52] <jinxed-> i don't know what it would be from
[07:53] <Kalamansi> bulmer : when i ping <IP_ADDRESS> cannt detect
[07:53] <jinxed-> would beryl cause it?
[07:53] <Fujitsu> jinxed-: YOu would have added them manually.
[07:53] <jinxed-> hmm
[07:53] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> then how did you verify your switch is working okay?
[07:53] <jinxed-> is there anything I can do? Fujitsu
[07:54] <Fujitsu> jinxed-: Remove the entries, as I said before.
[07:54] <keram> how do i get libdvdcss ?
[07:54] <Kalamansi> bulmer : first is unplug it and then plug it again
[07:54] <Fujitsu> !restrictedformats | keram
[07:54] <ubotu> keram: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:54] <bulmer> odd nothing google can show me on history-GNOME_Network_netinfo_host <-- a gnome settings
[07:54] <jinxed-> umm you are going to think i'm stupid, but how would I go about that...
[07:54] <Fujitsu> jinxed-: System->Administration->Software Sources.
[07:55] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> plug and unplug does not tell you much..how are you verifying it is working?
[07:55] <badkitty> how do I use .runs?
[07:56] <Fujitsu> badkitty: YOu run them.
[07:56] <jinxed-> Fujitsu, okay i am there, what do i need to do now?
[07:56] <magic_ninja> now if i can just get my media keybaord to work
[07:56] <Kalamansi> bulmer: i tested it in other pc. and its working
[07:56] <Fujitsu> jinxed-: Find the entries referencing medibuntu, and disable them.
[07:56] <badkitty> Fujitsu obviously but I get errors and I cant find a good page explainging how it works..
[07:56] <Fujitsu> badkitty: What errors?
[07:57] <Fujitsu> The instructions will likely be application-specific.
[07:57] <Kavok1> I installed XP, then I install Ubuntu 64bit, now I want to install 32bit overtop of 64bit, are there any problems I need to be aware of? Will grub update correctly?
[07:57] <MasterShrek> badkitty, they need to be executable
[07:57] <badkitty> Fujitsu: command not found
[07:57] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> once more, your pc2 acquires the <IP_ADDRESS> via dhcp or you set that as static?
[07:57] <badkitty> ls -l
[07:57] <Fujitsu> Kavok1: GRUB will update fine if you install it over the top.
[07:57] <Fujitsu> badkitty: chmod +x it.
[07:57] <MasterShrek> badkitty, chmod +x filename.bin
[07:57] <skullhead> how do you make the psx emulator fullscreen?
[07:57] <Kavok1> Fujitsu: I want a complete clean install
[07:58] <Fujitsu> Kavok1: Yep, just reinstall. All will be good.
[07:58] <MasterShrek> Kavok1, youll be just fine
[07:58] <skullhead> psx v1.113
[07:58] <MasterShrek> skullhead, consult the documentation for it
[07:58] <badkitty> Fujitsu: Oh ok i thought it would give me a a permission error, not a command not found error
[07:59] <MasterShrek> badkitty, you also need to do when u run it:    ./filename.bin
[07:59] <MasterShrek> u know that right?
[07:59] <Kalamansi> bulmer : i never set an ip
[07:59] <pvl1> bye everyone
[07:59] <badkitty> MasterShrek: No I didn't, still learning here thanks
[08:00] <MasterShrek> ok, well badkitty youll run it from a terminal.  put   ./  before the filename.bin
[08:00] <bulmer> Kalamansi-> which means what? you are using dhcp client on your pc2...check its route table
[08:01] <Kalamansi> ok bulmer
[08:01] <Kalamansi> bulmer i reboot
[08:01] <magic_ninja> !audacious
[08:01] <ubotu> audacious is included in !Feisty. A !repository also exists for !Edgy: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[08:02] <jamesthookah> well
[08:02] <jamesthookah> turns out
[08:02] <jamesthookah> im a hookah
[08:02]  * Fujitsu grumbles about ubotu being used as a wiki.
[08:02] <badkitty> MasterShrek: right I got that much, Im just getting into using the cli for stuff
[08:02] <MasterShrek> badkitty, well i always like to see people trying to learn the cli, its very powerful
[08:03] <badkitty> MasterShrek: I super love apt-get, its pretty darn superior to everything that exists
[08:03] <bulmer> badkitty-> a tip... press tab twice on a cli...and you'd see thousands of commands
[08:03] <magic_ninja> does anybody know anything about getting a multimedia keyboard working on audacious
[08:04] <badkitty> bulmer how thats cool .. would take a lifetime to figure all those out
[08:04] <MasterShrek> badkitty, apt-get is very nice, i dont use it much these days, not using ubuntu, but its very handy
[08:04] <myke54142> just gotta read a lot of man pages
[08:06] <badkitty> MasterShrek: Have you heard of backtrack?
[08:06] <oddworld> i have
[08:06] <oddworld> it rocks
[08:06] <MasterShrek> badkitty, i think i may have heard of it, but ive never used it, and i really dunno waht it does
[08:07] <nonix4> badkitty: start with a random letter instead of listing all though... if you s-tab-tab, you'll get a very short list.
[08:07] <MasterShrek> !tab
[08:07] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:07] <isaacj87> quick question at any1
[08:07] <BubblegumTate> I'm using xfce and every time I boot up gnome is handling the desktop and every time I set the desktop settings to 'let xfce manage the desktop'. How do I make sure it remebers this setting
[08:07] <MasterShrek> !anyone | isaacj87
[08:07] <ubotu> isaacj87: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:07] <badkitty> MasterShrek: It's a penetration testing system will hundreds of networking utils
[08:07] <isaacj87> do xcompmgr and compiz fusion conflict?
[08:08] <isaacj87> or can I have both installed...
[08:08] <MasterShrek> ic badkitty, ill have to take a look at it
[08:08] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: You can have both installed, but they probably won't both run at the same time.
[08:08] <BubblegumTate> isaac, you can have them both installed but having compiz active will de-activate xcompmgr
[08:08] <badkitty> MasterShrek: It runs off of slackware I believe, it looks pretty cool, I downloaded and burned a disk of it today to test out in vmware on my lappy over the holiday
[08:09] <MasterShrek> cool badkitty, thats actually waht i run, slackware
[08:09] <badkitty> MasterShrek: Cool, I wish I was sufficient in the cli to use it, but Im not so I use ubuntu
[08:09] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: I see, well the thing is I installed screenlets and it required xcompmgr to be installed...the weird thing is...I already have a composite effects installed (aka CF)
[08:09] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: I guess it's because I compiled CF...
[08:09] <MasterShrek> badkitty, it just takes time, lots and lots of time :)
[08:10] <keram> is xubuntu-restricted-extras the same as ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:10] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Why did you compile CF?
[08:10] <magic_ninja> anyone know how to install the audacious-itouch plugin
[08:10] <keram> which one should i get if i use xubuntu, but want libdvdcss
[08:10] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: to have the latest stable release on Feisty
[08:10] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Ah.
[08:10] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: yup! Trevino doesn't update his Feisty repo anymore...
[08:10] <Fujitsu> keram: Install xubuntu-restricted-extras. Neither of them have libdvdcss2.
[08:10] <badkitty> MasterShrek: Have you toyed with the apps that let you build your own distros and live cd's?
[08:10] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Good; Treviño is... not good.
[08:11] <MasterShrek> keram, i would assume so, they are just meta-packages afaik
[08:11] <badkitty> ls
[08:11] <MasterShrek> badkitty, not at all
[08:11] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: so when I run screenlets...is it making use of CF or xcompmgr? from what I can tell it's relying on CF...
[08:11] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: CF.
[08:11] <Fujitsu> As long as CF is running, it will use CF.
[08:11] <keram> Fujitsu, so how do i get libdvdcss2?
[08:12] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: ah. I see...how would one start xcompmgr? via terminal?
[08:12] <BubblegumTate> keram: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[08:12] <badkitty> MasterShrek: oh k, just seems like a cool way to back up your system, and have the packages you always used ready to go, and perhaps give to your friend
[08:12] <Fujitsu> keram: Install libdvdread3, then run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh\
[08:12] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Why would one want to? It's vastly inferior to CF.
[08:13] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: lol. I guess I'm just curious
[08:13] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: in any case, thanks for the info!
[08:13] <MasterShrek> badkitty, yes, ive heard of people using them, i tend not to really have a use, my main system is pretty much a dummy system, with my server holding most of my files
[08:13] <MasterShrek> i think synaptic can export its package lists, and stuff, but ive never done it
[08:14] <keram> ah okay
[08:14] <keram> thanks
[08:14] <oddworld> flash is making firefox freeze, i have most recent version. any ideas?
[08:14] <Fujitsu> keram: It can't be easier due to DMCA issues, unfortunately.
[08:14] <isaacj87> oddworld: when watching videos on youtube?
[08:14] <oddworld> yes
[08:14] <keram> :/
[08:14] <SmartUnix> Hello
[08:14] <SmartUnix> are Belkin wireless cards work under Linux? (Sorry for my English)
[08:14] <isaacj87> oddworld: does your sound distort?
[08:14] <oddworld> nope
[08:14] <Fujitsu> oddworld: The latest Flash is a rather odd beast. Adobe changed nasty things, and we're working on it.
[08:15] <Fujitsu> SmartUnix: Some will.
[08:15] <oddworld> do you reccomend a different flash version then?
[08:15] <isaacj87> oddworld: Unfortunately, I haven't found a concrete solution...you could try this...
[08:15] <Fujitsu> oddworld: No others are readily available.
[08:15] <SmartUnix> Fujitsu, So should i buy it or buy another type?
[08:15] <keram> Fujitsu, do i need sudo to run install-css.sh?
[08:15] <Fujitsu> keram: Yes, sorry.
[08:15] <isaacj87> oddworld: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/10/ubuntu-firefox-flash-crash-this-fix.html
[08:15] <keram> Fujitsu, okay thanks
[08:16] <keram> Fujitsu, what does the \ do?
[08:16] <Fujitsu> keram: That was a typo :P
[08:16] <oddworld> ill look at it
[08:16] <keram> oh
[08:16] <MasterShrek> badkitty, im getting backtrack now, gonna have a looksee at it
[08:16] <oddworld> thanks
[08:16] <keram> thought some special extra command lol
[08:16] <isaacj87> oddworld: Don't quote me here, but I'm pretty sure that Gnash doesn't play youtube videos
[08:16] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: It does.
[08:16] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: oh really?
[08:16] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Mhm.
[08:17] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: Is there a simple way to install Gnash on Feisty?
[08:17] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: through the repos right?
[08:17] <Fujitsu> SmartUnix: I'm not quite sure - I use embedded Intel cards normally. Google around for your model number and ubuntu, and see what you can find.
[08:17] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Not in Feisty.
[08:17] <nt> HardDisk: My problem solved, it was a permission problem of the install file.  Thanks for the help
[08:17] <isaacj87> oddworld: you could take a look at gnash, if that "fix" doesn't work
[08:17] <MasterShrek> gnash is pretty flakey, not really ready for mainstream yet imho
[08:17] <Fujitsu> I don't think it's in Feisty at all.
[08:17] <bulmer> odd nothing google can show me on history-GNOME_Network_netinfo_host <-- a gnome settings
[08:17] <SmartUnix> Fujitsu, Thanks :)
[08:18] <MasterShrek> oddworld, maybe try installing flash manually? follow the instructions at adobe.com
[08:18] <badkitty> MasterShrek: cool
[08:18] <oddworld> well
[08:18] <oddworld> i did that
[08:18] <isaacj87> oddworld: no luck?
[08:18] <Fujitsu> MasterShrek: That won't help.
[08:19] <magic_ninja> how do i tell my gtk version
[08:19] <oddworld> the day i installed gutsy, the flash site was down?
[08:19] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: does anyone really know why firefox crashes due to flash?
[08:19] <MasterShrek> oh, well i was under the impression the package was broken, i figured there would be somethign different with it than the actual flash from adobe
[08:19] <badkitty> MasterShrek: Didn't they have a workaround setup earlier for the whole flash thing
[08:19] <oddworld> how could i uninstall flash, and reinstall
[08:19] <MasterShrek> badkitty, i have no idea
[08:19] <MasterShrek> oddworld, sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree
[08:20] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Flash is proprietary, so no.
[08:20] <badkitty> oddworld: As far as I know flash is still broken, so dont reinstall it from the repos
[08:20] <MasterShrek> oddworld, assuming you installed it from apt
[08:20] <oddworld> i used a tar
[08:20] <beat_> what is the gstramer plugin of rhythmbox
[08:20] <oddworld> apt was not working at the time, but it was a tar from the adobe site
[08:20] <redd0t> beat_: what do you mean
[08:20] <Fujitsu> beat_: What do you mean? Rhythmbox will use any GStreamer 0.10 plugins.
[08:21] <musikgoat> command to clear dns in cli?
[08:21] <beat_> i cant play song in gstreamer
[08:21] <MasterShrek> !mp3 | beat_
[08:21] <ubotu> beat_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <Fujitsu> musikgoat: What do you mean `clear dns'?
[08:21] <MasterShrek> ubotu!
[08:21] <beat_> it says problem is gstreamer bla bla but i play music in totem and xmms
[08:21] <musikgoat> Fujitsu: clear cache
[08:21] <redd0t> beat: rhythmbox will play any file for which you have the gstreamer plugin installed, e.g. mad to play mp3
[08:21]  * MasterShrek is lagging lol
[08:21] <isaacj87> oddworld: if you installed locally, I guess you could just remove the .so file found in /home/yournamehere/.mozilla/plugins
[08:22] <wers> what code do I enter for me to know an app's version?
[08:22] <Fujitsu> beat_: If you could tell us what the `bla bla' is we might be able to help you.
[08:22] <Fujitsu> wers: apt-cache policy package
[08:22] <oddworld> ill remove the so, and see what happens
[08:22] <Fujitsu> Replace package with the name of a package.
[08:22] <wers> thanks so much, Fujitsu
[08:23] <isaacj87> oddworld: move the file to the desktop and then do a "about:plugins" in firefox...you'll see that firefox no longer thinks flash is installed.
[08:24] <badkitty> MasterShrek: What other distro most similarly resembles slackware?
[08:25] <badkitty> MasterShrek: As far as the setup and file structure ... red hat, suse, mandriva? Im setting up a vmware virtual server
[08:25] <MasterShrek> badkitty, well, none really, it kinda resembles bsd i guess
[08:25] <oddworld> flash is gone
[08:25] <oddworld> whats the best way / the most stable version to put back on?
[08:25] <Fujitsu> oddworld: They've killed off the old ones from their site.
[08:26] <oddworld> i dont mind using an onlder version if it works well. currently everything is slow and laggy on my 2 gigs ram 2 ghz cpu compy
[08:26] <oddworld> which makes no sence. i have the horsepower, just crappy flash drivers
[08:26] <MasterShrek> badkitty, id go with red hat i spose, not that its really going to make a huge difference in vmware afaik
[08:27] <isaacj87> oddworld: everything is slow?
[08:27] <oddworld> no, just flash
[08:27] <isaacj87> oddworld: ah. I see
[08:27] <badkitty> MasterShrek: I just chose other... It's gonna boot up either way anyway i guess.. since its a live cd and all
[08:27] <badkitty> MasterShrek: BRB Im gonna jump on the ol lappy
[08:27] <MasterShrek> badkitty, yea i wouldnt worry about it much
[08:27] <isaacj87> oddworld: you could try gnash now...the open-source alternative
[08:27] <n2diy_> how do you call the extended character set?
[08:28] <oddworld> ive heard sketchy things about gnash
[08:28] <oddworld> thats its really hit or miss
[08:28] <Fujitsu> n2diy_: Unicode, or extended ASCII?
[08:29] <n2diy_> Fujitsu: umm, I'm not sure, the degree symbol for temperature is what I'm looking for.
[08:29] <oddworld> so gnash or flash?
[08:30] <isaacj87> oddworld: i'm about to compile gnash and see how it performs
[08:30] <wers> my kde apps are using the sans serif font while my gnome apps use sans. in the kde control center, there is no sans font. just sans serif. how do I make my kde apps use the same fonts as my gnome apps?
[08:30] <isaacj87> oddworld: in all honesty, i've never tried it
[08:30] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, It's available in the repos, though not the latest version
[08:30] <n2diy_> Fujitsu: I've found the menu>accesories>character map, but I don't know how to use the hex codes.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> n2diy_, What do you need to use them for?
[08:30] <oddworld> well ill give flash another shot, and ill install it by going to a flash site and allowing firefox to do it
[08:30] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: yup, I know...but I'm running Feisty so the version is even older...
[08:31] <n2diy> Jordan_U: fun
[08:31] <Jordan_U> n2diy, OK... What type of fun don't you know how to have with them?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> :)
[08:31] <isaacj87> oddworld: i'll let you know how gnash turns out...
[08:32] <keram> anyone used dvd::rip before?
[08:32] <phrac> keram: yeah, it works pretty well
[08:32] <keram> i am trying to configure the transcode options but for some reason no window is coming up
[08:32] <keram> phrac, you know how to fix that?
[08:32] <n2diy> Jordan_U: I'd like to ask my friends on #hamradio what that radar blip at zero degrees is?
[08:32] <keram> its using the xvid codec
[08:32] <badkitty> MasterShrek: Ok Im back
[08:33] <Jordan_U> n2diy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[08:33] <badkitty> gee chatzilla is fugly
[08:33] <keram> phrac, i want to turn off the psu core mode so that i can transcode on a cluster
[08:33] <n2diy> Jordan_U: looking, thanks.
[08:33] <YAYa> hey,whats that adept-looking software  for ubuntu??
[08:33] <phrac> keram: so just turn it off where it says "Use PSU Core"
[08:33] <Jordan_U> badkitty, Use a purpose build client like xchat or irssi
[08:34] <keram> phrac, ahh i see it now
[08:34] <Jordan_U> YAYa, Synaptic? Add/Remove ?
[08:34] <keram> i'm dumb :/
[08:34] <isaacj87> is there a tutorial available with instructions on how to compile gnash? I just need the list of dependencies
[08:34] <keram> thanks for the help though
[08:34] <phrac> np
[08:34] <oddworld> ok so flash is not installed on firefox. so i go to youtube, it tells me i need flash. so i "install" flash in firefox. reboot firefox, go to youtube and it tells me again that i do not have flash. what gives???
[08:34] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, sudo apt-get build-deb gnash
[08:35] <Fujitsu> oddworld: The Flash package is broken at the moment, because Adobe are useless.
[08:35] <Fujitsu> !brokenflash
[08:35] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:35] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: you mean build-dep right?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, Yes, typo :)
[08:35] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: thanks! i'll try that
[08:36] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: oooooh. didn't work :(
[08:36] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, The package name might be different, "apt-cache search gnash"
[08:36]  * MasterShrek is going to bed, going on 3am here...nite every1
[08:36] <YAYa> hey,whats that adept-looking software  for ubuntu called?
[08:37] <Fujitsu> YAYa: Synaptic.
[08:37] <YAYa> ah
[08:37] <YAYa> where do i get it??
[08:37] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, In what way didn't it work?
[08:37] <oddworld> blast!!!!
[08:37] <Jordan_U> YAYa, Are you using another distro?
[08:37] <YAYa> u use ubuntu feisty fawn
[08:37] <n2diy> YAYa: you should already have it.
[08:37] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: error saying that build-deps for gnash could not be satisfied
[08:38] <YAYa> i use*
[08:38] <oddworld> damn you adobe.... damn you!!!!!
[08:38] <isaacj87> Jordan_U: E: Build-dependencies for gnash could not be satisfied.
[08:38] <n2diy> YAYa:  menu > system > admin > synaptic
[08:38] <YAYa> :o im confused
[08:38] <YAYa> ahh
[08:39] <YAYa> ound it
[08:39] <YAYa> ty
[08:39] <n2diy> YAYa: GL
[08:41] <Jordan_U> isaacj87, You should file a bug report against that package
[08:41] <Fujitsu> Jordan_U, isaacj87: Please don't file a bug. It's fine in Gutsy and above, and we're not going to fix such a thing in Feisty.
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, It's not working for me in Gutsy either
[08:42] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: I understand.
[08:42] <n2diy> Fujitsu: what about LTS for Dapper?
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Jordan_U: Hmm... Well, it has built fine at the start of Hardy. And unmetdeps aren't going to qualify for a SRU.
[08:42] <isaacj87> any chance I can find a gnash-0.8.1 deb floating around anywhere?
[08:42] <Fujitsu> n2diy: I don't believe Gnash is in Dapper.
[08:42] <Jordan_U> n2diy, Does dapper even have a gnash package?
[08:43] <Fujitsu> And even so, that's still not going to qualify for an SRU.
[08:43] <n2diy> Fujitsu: Jordan_U, nope, sorry, should have read up thread.
[08:44] <oddworld> so i got the gutsy flash.deb, for most current flash. double clicked on it. it tells me: and older version is availible in a software channel" whats that mean???
[08:45] <Fujitsu> oddworld: It means that an older version is available normally through apt. Ignore it.
[08:45] <oddworld> gotcha, thanks
[08:46] <oddworld> is it possible to run across a version 8 of flash on the interwebs and install it into my pc? thus fixing all my problems (hopefully) ?
[08:46] <Fujitsu> oddworld: There is no Linux version of Adobe or Macromedia Flash 8.
[08:47] <oddworld> im quite new to ubuntu. had it for about a month. xp has been dead sence / removed. so i am not sure about linux's past, but has flash always sucked?
[08:48] <isaacj87> oddworld: for me yes...it's the only thing that's caused me problems with linux
[08:48] <isaacj87> oddworld: everything else has been great
[08:48] <Fujitsu> oddworld: Adobe hasn't done a very good job with it, and it's proprietary so we can't fix it :(
[08:48] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: That's good to hear.
[08:48] <oddworld> gotcha
[08:49] <oddworld> the only problem i had was testing linux about a year and a half ago, trying to get my ati 9800 pro to display something other than 640x480 lol
[08:50] <Fujitsu> oddworld: Again, proprietary drivers are required :(
[08:50] <isaacj87> is bulletproof X going to be in Hardy?
[08:50] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: It will be. It was in Gutsy.
[08:50] <isaacj87> Fujitsu: it was??
[08:50] <oddworld> lol
[08:50] <Fujitsu> isaacj87: Is, yes.
[08:50] <oddworld> right so now youtube has no sound
[08:51] <oddworld> any ideas
[08:51] <keram> is there a way to have the workspace toolbar applet work with dual screens?
[08:52] <n2diy> Jordan_U: That wasn't what I was looking for, but I figured it out. Right Ctrl + Shift+ 00B0 will give you a °
[08:52] <michael__> where are the ladies at?
[08:52] <Fujitsu> n2diy: You should look into configuring a Compose key.
[08:53] <korosora> hello
[08:53] <n2diy> Fujitsu: I suppose, does that work in Dapper?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> !hi | korosora
[08:53] <korosora> i am using xchat.
[08:53] <ubotu> korosora: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:53] <michael__> hello korosora so am i
[08:53] <korosora> where are the nicks!?
[08:54] <korosora> >.<
[08:54] <Jordan_U> n2diy, It will work in any distro made in the last decade ( or two ) :)
[08:54] <Fujitsu> korosora: Drag the column splitter on the right hand side of the window, I think.
[08:55] <n2diy> Jordan_U: 10-4, thanks.
[08:55] <Jordan_U> n2diy, np
[08:56] <korosora> grr. no autocomplete nicks.
[08:56] <korosora> fuji: thanks
[08:56] <Fujitsu> korosora: There will be an option for autocompleting them somewhere.
[08:56]  * Fujitsu hugs irssi.
[08:56] <korosora> oh i see.
[08:57] <korosora> it displays the possible ones
[08:57] <benjamin> hi whats java called in synoptic?
[08:57] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[08:57] <korosora> rather than cycling through
[08:57] <Fujitsu> benjamin: sun-java6-jre
[08:57] <korosora> @.@
[08:57] <benjamin> ty
[08:57] <oddworld> still no sounds cant figure out whats wrong
[08:58] <michael__> oddworld what kind of sound card do you have?
[08:59] <oddworld> i have intel 945 chipset
[08:59] <oddworld> sound works in everything
[08:59] <oddworld> not flash
[09:00] <musikgoat> anyone play with gran paradiso ff3?  is there a different key combo to close tabs?
[09:00] <Fujitsu> musikgoat: Does Ctrl+W not work?
[09:00] <musikgoat> nope
[09:00] <freakynl> q: can i install vmware-server without installing build-essentials? it needs that to build the kernel modules, but i just grabbed the kernel modules from the repository. modules load fine, but vmware-config.pl doesn't want to see them. any suggestions? I don't want compilers etc on my box
[09:01] <Kavok1> Isn't there an nvidia configuration utility or something?
[09:01] <Fujitsu> freakynl: I believe the kernel modules in the repository are for guests, not hosts.
[09:01] <Kavok1> I dont remember the command
[09:01] <musikgoat> additionally, i cannot go to the file menu and click close tab Fujitsu
[09:01] <Fujitsu> Kavok1: The command is nvidia-settings.
[09:01] <Kavok1> thanks
[09:01] <Fujitsu> freakynl: What's wrong with having compilers?
[09:01] <korosora> sudo make me a sandwich
[09:01] <choongii> I dont recall needing to compile anything for vmware-server
[09:01] <Fujitsu> If you've got VMs, you can't be particularly space-conscious.
[09:01] <freakynl> Fujitsu: hmm thx. it's a firewall. build tools and scripting tools etc are bad on firewalls ;)
[09:01] <benjamin> :OO
[09:02] <Fujitsu> freakynl: Better remove those darn scriptable shells, then.
[09:02] <freakynl> Fujitsu: :) as little as possible should do it :)
[09:02] <benjamin> i cant type : @
[09:02] <benjamin> (copyied)
[09:02] <freakynl> benjamin: u just did
[09:02] <benjamin> i copied it
[09:03] <Fujitsu> benjamin: What happens when you try to?
[09:03] <freakynl> benjamin: not a qwerty keyboard?
[09:03] <benjamin> i get no symbol
[09:03] <eFfeM> hi, anyone any idea what I can do to speed up the window manager startup? It used to be fast, then I installed compiz; didn't like it, went back to metacity and now it takes minutes between logging in and getting the X desktop
[09:03] <Fujitsu> benjamin: UK or US keyboard?
[09:03] <benjamin> cant use Ctrl+Alt+2=
[09:03] <benjamin> uhm
[09:03] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:04] <benjamin> i have öäå
[09:04] <eFfeM> 7.10
[09:04] <Jordan_U> eFfeM, How did you install compiz and how did you go back to metacity?
[09:04] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: Hmm... What Jordan_U asked.
[09:04] <cleaton> benjamin, left altgr and number 2
[09:04] <benjamin> ty
[09:04] <cleaton> right**
[09:05] <eFfeM> Jordan_U, I installed compiz with synaptic, also uninstalled it that way, then I lost the window manager fully and did metacity --replace
[09:05] <cleaton> swedish keyboard :P
[09:05] <cleaton> i think Oo
[09:05] <cleaton> :P
[09:05] <eFfeM> i've also been looking into the session manager, removed the file locally, but that did not improve things
[09:06] <cinatic> Hi @ll
[09:06] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: Nothing in System->Preferences->Session?
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Hi cinatic.
[09:06] <cleaton> merry xmas cinatic
[09:06] <cleaton> =)
[09:07] <cinatic> yea thx you all too merry xmas
[09:07] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, yes, at startup there is bluetooth, metacity, network manager, power manager, restricted drivers manager,update notifier, visual and volume manager
[09:08] <cyberius> hi I need some help with bash scripting: I want to test if a parameter was given to my bash script. but if [$1=""];then echo "no parameter" doesn't work... So how can I do it? :)
[09:08] <eFfeM> not sure how I got all these, actually it seems a little bit like it is waiting for a network action to complete and gets a timeout
[09:08] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> CAN ANYBODY GIVE ME A COMMAND TO DELETE A WORD IN MULTIPLE FILES? SORRY FOR THE UPPER CASE, REALLY HURRY~~
[09:08] <Fujitsu> !caps | [Gutsy]TuTUXG
[09:08] <ubotu> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:09] <redd0t> wow.. did a reinstall... copying crap back over the network.. now im bored
[09:09] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> sory
[09:09] <Fujitsu> [Gutsy]TuTUXG: You might want to use sed.
[09:09] <Fujitsu> sed -i -e 's/someword//' somefile someotherfile herearesomemorefiles
[09:09] <cyberius> hi I need some help with bash scripting: I want to test if a  parameter was given to my bash script. but if [$1=""];then  echo "no parameter" doesn't work... So how can I do it? :)
[09:09] <staykovmarin> hi i have a manually installed program that i would like to run from command line. i put it in /bin but when i attempt to start it it says 'command not found' and then the package to install it.
[09:09] <staykovmarin> any ideas?
[09:09] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Fujitsu, thanks alot i will try that
[09:10] <Fujitsu> staykovmarin: It should go in /usr/local/bin. Is it set with the execute bit (chmod +x)?
[09:10] <cinatic> i need help with gpart i can´t resize my root / ext3 partition ?!
[09:10] <staykovmarin> yes it is.
[09:10] <staykovmarin> i will try that
[09:10] <Fujitsu> cinatic: Use a live CD.
[09:10] <the_darkside_986> hi all... i am having trouble with python-opengl. all my other OpenGL games run at full speed but python-opengl games act like they are software-rendered and are unplayable. this is on 7.10. anyone know of a quick fix?
[09:11] <cinatic> i used it but it says that its exclusevily in use or mounted ??
[09:11] <cinatic> i use this gparted live cd
[09:11] <Kavok1> Um, how do I move the networking manager on the toolbar?
[09:11] <Kavok1> lol
[09:12] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, Jordan_U if it helps: I have no session file in my ~/.gnome dir, default.session lists 7 clients: gnoe-wm (prio 10), gnome-panel (prio 40), nautilus (prio 40) gnome-cups-icon (prio 60), gnome-volume-manager (prio 40) vino-session (prio 50), metacity --replace (prio 15) (in that order)
[09:12] <eFfeM> ^gnoe^gnome
[09:12] <benjamin> Hey,i cant get the right drivers for my grapics card :(
[09:12] <Jordan_U> eFfeM, Get rid of metacity --replace
[09:12] <Jordan_U> eFfeM, gnome-wm starts it already ( AFIK )
[09:13] <eFfeM> Jordan_U, done, actually I think I added that after loosing the window manager when uninstalling compiz
[09:13] <eFfeM> will test, back in a minute or so
[09:14] <staykovmarin> Fujitsu: same problem. chmoded and sym linked to the /usr/local/bin
[09:14] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> Fujitsu, LOL, i just love linux
[09:15] <Jordan_U> benjamin, What card?
[09:15] <benjamin> nvidia
[09:15] <benjamin> geforce 7900
[09:15] <DARKGuy> Hey, I need to edit the source of the xpad driver (/usr/src/linux/drivers/input/joystick/xpad.c). I'm a programmer myself but I've never done something like this before (kernel module compiling). Could anybody please guide me around it?
[09:15] <Jordan_U> benjamin, Have you tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[09:15] <Jordan_U> ?
[09:15] <benjamin> inope
[09:16] <benjamin> oh
[09:16] <benjamin> the driver wasnt in use
[09:16] <benjamin> ty
[09:16] <benjamin> gonna restart and see results
[09:16] <DARKGuy> !module
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about module - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <DARKGuy> !kernel
[09:17] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[09:17] <DARKGuy> :/
[09:18] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, No experience coding kernel modules myself either, but what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <the_darkside_986> hi all... i am having trouble with python-opengl. all my other OpenGL games run at full speed but python-opengl games act like they are software-rendered and are unplayable. this is on 7.10. anyone know of a quick fix?
[09:19] <the_darkside_986> if there's a makefile in that kernel module folder, you should be able to just do "make" and then "sudo modprobe module_name"
[09:20] <the_darkside_986> it's been too long... i used to have to type modprobe all the time back in Suse Linux 10.1
[09:20] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U: you see, I have a common X-Box controller (Linux sees it as a chinese-made XBOX controller) which I modded with an USB extension so it could work as an USB gamepad. 100% working in Windows with rumble and all, but I'm having problems with the left & right trigger with it under Linux... they aren't recognized as the axes they're suppossed to be, so qjoypad doesn't get them correctly, neither joy2key, only jstest but that doesn't help at all
[09:20] <redd0t> the_darkside_986: could it be that python is interpreted?
[09:20] <eFfeM> Jordan_U, removed metacity from default.session, but still it takes 2.5 minutes or so. top in a console window says it is doing nothing (no substantial cpu usage) ps aux says that vino-session is started and the gnome screensaver and only long long after that it starts metacity
[09:21] <cherva_> does anyone know how to load the spca5xx module sudo modprobe spca5xx says "Module spca5xx not found."
[09:21] <eFfeM> meanwhile I get the X-windows X for a minute or so and the arror for another minute or so
[09:21] <the_darkside_986> @redd0t, well, that library has been heavily optimized and uses CTypes... but the slowdown should only be 6 times slower than C. but i'm getting 3 FPS where there should be over 100.
[09:21] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U: there is something here that looks like a fix: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xbox_360_controller_on_Linux in the "Problems with Left Trigger being 3rd axis" section that I wanna try out :P
[09:21] <n2diy> ! insmod
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insmod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <n2diy> ! modprobe
[09:22] <eFfeM> cherva_, i don't think that module is in the distro
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <redd0t> the_darkside_986: oh. well im relatively new to python. and i haven't used the opengl libraries. i was just taking a stab in the dark
[09:22] <the_darkside_986> Has anyone ever been able to play Frets on Fire at more than 5 fps? does python really suck that bad or is there a linking problem somewhere? Sauerbraten runs just fine for me.
[09:23] <eFfeM> cherva_, in my 7.10 /lib/modules there is no such module
[09:24] <cherva_> eFfeM: hmm strange look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334918
[09:24] <the_darkside_986> yeah i'm new to python too. it's great for writing GTK apps. But i am beginning to see it as the "Visual Basic" of the Ubuntu world, that is, it has no use for even trying to do openGL stuff... unless there is a fix for this problem and i've installed something wrong.
[09:24] <cherva_> eFfeM: ok I'll just apt it then
[09:24] <eFfeM> there is only the source in apt
[09:25] <Fujitsu> the_darkside_986: I fail to see how a bug in the OpenGL bindings renders it as useless and pathetic as Visual Basic.
[09:25] <DARKGuy> the_darkside_986: it kinda starts to slowdown for me sometimes, guess it's a game bug, but it's usually solved by just restarting it
[09:27] <the_darkside_986> well... for me python-opengl acts like it is using MesaGL software rendering instead of the nvidia-opengl libs that came with my gfx card. i tried looking for *.so files in the source tarball so i can examine their linkage but i only found python modules (*.py)
[09:27] <kurt> does anyone know where the installed folder is of codeweaver's crossoffice
[09:27] <kurt> the folder where it installs all window app, cannot find it
[09:29] <DARKGuy> the_darkside_986: ah, I have no idea since I don't use python for my OpenGL programming, sorry :(
[09:29] <Fujitsu> kurt: Ask in the CrossOffice channel.
[09:29] <ToastGuy_Away> night ubuntu people
[09:29] <Fujitsu> Night, ToastGuy_Away.
[09:30] <redd0t> night ToastGuy_Away
[09:30] <bluefoxx> merry xamas ubuntu!
[09:31] <the_darkside_986> i don't understand... this must be a problem specific to my setup, otherwise, no one would even bother writing python-opengl games...
[09:32] <eFfeM> should I have a WINDOW_MANAGER environment variable ?
[09:32] <the_darkside_986> maybe i should invest in a system with a powerful multi-core CPU so that it could do software rendering and i wouldn't notice the difference. at this rate i will just have to.
[09:32] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: Not normally.
[09:33] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, still struggling with this loooong login problem
[09:33] <cherva_> i'm having trouble compiling spca5xx module here is the output of make http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2974/ pls help
[09:33] <kurt> can i  put an aspi layer on my system
[09:34] <Fujitsu> cherva_: You probably in fact want the gspca module, which is spca5xx's replacement. It's included by default in Ubuntu.
[09:36] <cherva_> Fujitsu: hmmm maybe I don't know because its not for me
[09:36] <Fujitsu> cherva_: It's a rewrite by the same author, for the same chips.
[09:37] <cherva_> Fujitsu: hmm thanks
[09:42] <redd0t> hey does anybody know of a nice yakuake like application for gnome that isnt tilda
[09:43] <menllyos> anyone know if there is a similar program for ubuntu like Total Commander for windows ?
[09:43] <Fujitsu> menllyos: What does Total Commander do?
[09:43] <menllyos> its a file manager program
[09:44] <menllyos> lemme find you a screenshot ;p
[09:44] <menllyos> http://www.ghisler.com/picture.htm
[09:45] <sem> hi, my problem is getting a widescreen monitor to work on a thinkpad (vga) .. widescreen option from admin-> screens and graphics (gutsy) produces errors on widescreen-tft, and without [  ] widescreen a screen is displayed, but it flickers .. any hints?
[09:45] <tarelerulz> What do total commander do different then say the file managers the come with ubuntu? or is it just one your famillar with so that is why you want it menllyos
[09:45] <redd0t> like i love using yakuake, in kde, but i cant find a suitable application in gnome that does the same thing
[09:45] <n2diy> menllyos: midnight commander?
[09:45] <sem> menllyos, try krusader
[09:45] <system9> hi
[09:46] <sem> i am used to TC, too .. and chose krusader for my ubuntu
[09:46] <menllyos> i just installed ubuntu yesterday hehe so im not too familiar with all stuff that comes with it...
[09:46] <menllyos> ok :)
[09:46] <pteague> what should i be using instead of ntp-simple?  ntp or openntpd ?
[09:46] <Ome[AWAY]> Hello Everybody :)
[09:46] <menllyos> i ll try those suggestions
[09:47] <tarelerulz> So Menllyos why did you install Ubuntu on your system?  just asking
[09:47] <Fujitsu> pteague: ntpd
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Er, ntp
[09:47] <sem> so .. somebody knows to solve my widescreen-on-thinkpad-problem?
[09:47] <LordOfThePigs> hello, how can I assign a new keyboard shortcut to an action that is not predefined by gnome?
[09:48] <sem> LordOfThePigs, Pref -> Keyboard Shortcuts?
[09:48] <menllyos> cause i been wanting to try/learn a bit of linux for a long time and cause its free ;)
[09:48] <LordOfThePigs> I would like a shortcut for rotating my screen 90 degrees using xrandr
[09:48] <LordOfThePigs> sem: afaik, pref-> keyboard shotcuts can,t do it
[09:49] <menllyos> and im pretty happy about it so far, except that i cant use my xfi soundcard yet
[09:49] <sem> ok , it just seemed obvious ;)
[09:49] <zorro> hi there
[09:49] <Fujitsu> menllyos: Yeah, thanks Creative. THough they do have drivers coming, eventually.
[09:49] <LordOfThePigs> sem: looked there first though...
[09:49] <zorro> hi sorry for disturb u guy
[09:50] <zorro> just wanna ask if any you guys experienced cross-compiling for ARM before?
[09:50] <LordOfThePigs> Is there a way to associate a shell script to a keyboard event code2?
[09:50] <tarelerulz> Menllyos, I think you should give Konquror a try . It is pretty great tabbing on file managing , files size view , file filter so you can just show the file you want to show.  Great if you know what directory to look in ,but don't fell like looking thought a bunch of files . Not to mean it has ftp  and smb and web browser too
[09:50] <Fujitsu> zorro: I've used qemu to emulate an ARM system to compile things, but not cross-compiled.
[09:50] <n2diy> LordOfThePigs: I don't know, but the folks in #bash might?
[09:51] <zorro> Fujitsu: oh : (
[09:52] <zorro> I tried to compile one using Toolchain but got this error: /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[09:52] <zorro> i made a search online but desperately found no solution
[09:53] <n2diy> zorro, do you have the lib-dev libraries installed?
[09:54] <DARKGuy> does anybody has idea on how do I compile a kernel module that's already in Ubuntu? I just need to edit a few lines of xpad.c and compile it again
[09:55] <zorro> n2diy: that is glib-devel rite?
[09:55] <benjamin> hey
[09:55] <benjamin> my ubuntu got corrupt
[09:55] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, I think you need module-assistant
[09:55] <Fujitsu> benjamin: In what matter?
[09:55] <n2diy> zorro, no, something like libc-dev?
[09:56] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U: and how would that help me o.o?
[09:56] <n2diy> DARKGuy:  try asking in #Ubuntu-kernel?\
[09:56] <benjamin> i enabled a nvidia driver and then the whole computer looked like DOS...the grapics was wrong or something
[09:56] <n2diy> DARKGuy:  try asking in #Ubuntu-kernel?
[09:58] <DARKGuy> n2diy: I'll try, thanks
[09:58] <zorro> n2diy: oh no I didnt think I got it
[09:58] <benjamin> i activated a Nvidia accelerator driver and BSYGUDOH everything looks WEIRD
[09:58] <choongii> uhh
[09:58] <tarelerulz> I installed tightvncserver today and It running display 1 ,but  I want to use display 0 so I can actually run  the gnome I login into when I am at the computer .  If that  makes since
[09:58] <choongii> I highly doubt that's the problem
[09:58] <choongii> the error is ' could not read symbols: Invalid operation', not no such file :S
[09:58] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Do NOT ask in Ubuntu-kernel
[09:59] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, It's not a support channel
[09:59] <anto> Happy christam everybody :)
[09:59] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U: Whoops, already did x.x
[09:59] <choongii> you too anto
[09:59] <anto> Btw anyone here good at java!?
[09:59] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Meh, it's not the end of the world, you'll just get a lecture :)
[10:00] <zorro> choongii: actually the file is there, u think it link to a non-existent lib?
[10:00] <anto> when i try connect to #java it says i need to be registerd
[10:00] <anto> where do i register?
[10:00] <choongii> zorro, do you run 64 bit?
[10:00] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U: Oh, okay, I got scared and left as soon as you told me lol xD
[10:00] <Jordan_U> !register | anto
[10:00] <ubotu> anto: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[10:00] <Milotin> how can i make the command "wall" work in my terminal, so i could talk with the users from my network ? Everytime i`m trying "wall <message>" i get an error : "wall: can't read " can someone help me ?
[10:00] <Milotin> !wall
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <anto> Thanks
[10:00] <benjamin> anyone help me get the right drivers for my nvidia card plz?
[10:00] <bowen88500> Hello?
[10:00] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U: module-assistant, however, doesn't contain the module I need to compile oO
[10:01] <bowen88500> I am from China
[10:01] <pteague> how do i remove tomcat from the list of services started at boot?  System -> Administration -> Services doesn't list tomcat :(
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Milotin, echo test | wall
[10:01] <zorro> choongii: no 32 bit
[10:01] <choongii> hrmm..
[10:01] <bowen88500> Anyone can teach me English?
[10:01] <benjamin> I have Nvidia 7900 plz help me
[10:02] <system9> ya i can
[10:02] <Milotin> Jordan_U, ok , that`s working , but can't i do somehow to use only "wall" ? i mean without "echo |" in front of it ?
[10:02] <bowen88500> A ha
[10:02] <n2diy> ! English
[10:02] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:02] <mavi-> Milotin: wall, then write what you want to say
[10:03] <Fujitsu> Milotin: wall <<< 'blah'
[10:03] <n2diy> ! cn
[10:03] <mavi-> Milotin: you need to press enter before typing
[10:03] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:03] <benjamin> what driver should i use for my Nvidia Geforce 7000?
[10:03] <bowen88500> I know little about the goods ,and I even don't know what it is used
[10:03] <mavi-> Milotin: "wall" <enter> <text> <crtl-D>
[10:03] <Milotin>  mavi- it's not working like that
[10:03] <zorro> choongii: ...and the file itself is in the arm-linux lib folder, it is a symbolic link to libc-2.3.2.so, which is in that folder too
[10:04] <Fujitsu> Milotin: What's it not doing?
[10:04] <Jordan_U> Milotin, You need at least one hard return
[10:04] <mavi-> Milotin: yes it does
[10:04] <mavi-> Milotin: or do you want to do it programatically?
[10:05] <choongii> zorro, sorry, Im afraid I cant help |:
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Milotin, So it would be: wall <return> test <return> ctrl+D
[10:05] <Milotin> Fujitsu, i get this : wall: can't read ah."
[10:05] <mavi-> Milotin: then you can add the text to a file and use < input redirection
[10:05] <Fujitsu> Milotin: What is the exact command you're entering.
[10:05] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  wall <test>
[10:05] <mavi-> Milotin: press enter between "wall" and "ah", then enter again, then ctrl-d
[10:05] <Blu3pr1nt> Do you know why my AGN-Intel Wifi-Card 4965 doenst work?
[10:05] <Milotin> mavi-, if i do that nothing is happening
[10:05] <Fujitsu> Milotin: wall <<< 'Some text to send to everybody.'
[10:06] <benjamin> Hey,What the name on the driver for Nvidia Geforce 7000???
[10:06] <jay2xra> help: rt73 driver for ralink wireless card won't allow me to shutdown my ubuntu gutsy... i keep getting: unregister_netdevice: waiting for rausb0 to become free. Usage count = 1
[10:06] <mavi-> Milotin: then you are doing something else
[10:06] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  are the 3 < necesarry ?
[10:06] <Fujitsu> Milotin: Yes.
[10:06] <zorro> choongii: nvm :D where could i get that libc-dev package?
[10:06] <Jordan_U> benjamin, "nvidia"
[10:06] <Fujitsu> !nvidia | benjamin
[10:06] <Milotin> ok
[10:06] <ubotu> benjamin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:06] <benjamin> ty
[10:06] <Milotin> Fujitsu, thanks . it's working with those 3 <
[10:07] <greedo> is there a way to have different drivers loaded depending whether ubuntu is booted as part of a multiboot or through virtualization ???
[10:07] <Milotin> Fujitsu, but it will send a mass message so all my users could see ?
[10:07] <Fujitsu> Milotin: Yes; that's what wall does.
[10:07] <choongii> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libc-dev&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all :)
[10:07] <Fujitsu> greedo: It should load them as necessary, except for graphics.
[10:07] <Milotin> Fujitsu, and if i want to send a message two one user only ?
[10:08] <Jordan_U> greedo, Yes, virtualization uses some virtual hardware, the "graphics card" for instance is virtual, and therefore cannot do accelerated 3D ( yet )
[10:08] <mavi-> Milotin: use write instead of wall
[10:08] <mavi-> Milotin: wall = write all
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Milotin: write user <<< Whatever.
[10:08] <greedo> Fujitsu: so in my xorg.conf i just need to list different displays ??? like both vmware video driver and nvidia driver ?
[10:08] <jay2xra> what does it mean when it says:  waiting for rausb0 to become free??? anyone?
[10:08] <cherva_> !hi
[10:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:09] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  : root@master:/home/alex# write alex hy
[10:09] <Milotin> write: alex is not logged in on hy
[10:09] <benjamin> uhm i dont know what driver of nvidia-glx-new,nvidia-legacy,nvidia-glx
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Milotin: <<<
[10:09] <benjamin> i should use
[10:09] <Fujitsu> benjamin: Does the Restricted Drivers Manager not work?
[10:09] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  : write: alex is logged in more than once; writing to tty7
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Milotin: That's fine...
[10:10] <benjamin> i only have one alternative in it and that one crash the graphics of the computer
[10:10] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  tty7 is the x-session-manager
[10:10] <benjamin>  Fujitsy:i only have one alternative in it and that one crash the graphics of the computer
[10:10] <benjamin>  Fujitsu:i only have one alternative in it and that one crash the graphics of the computer
[10:10] <flexo_> hi. i'm developing on ubuntu 7.04 - feisty fawn. i've got a c application using opengl. after doing some changes in the last hours it freezes my box, at always the same point. thought it might be caused by nvidias drivers, tried with sw mesa, no go. it even freezes when i emulate everything inside valgrind. anyone has any idea maybe how to proceed?
[10:11] <flexo_> (i'm doing *nothing* fancy here, it uses threads but those should be emulated by valgrind aswell right..)
[10:11] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, Jordan_U found some more info: .xsession-errors contains 11 times a line that the display already has a window manager; also ps ax tells me that I have two processes /usr/bin/X running
[10:11] <eFfeM> this does not look good
[10:11] <eFfeM> any idea how to fix this?????
[10:11] <Jordan_U> flexo_, Does it just freeze X?
[10:12] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  but the message have been sent
[10:12]  * Fujitsu has to run away for a while now, sorry.
[10:12] <flexo_> Jordan_U: well, it's not really a "freeze". it takes about 2-3 seconds where the box grinds to a halt... the mouse cursor still moves *very* slowly, but i can't switch to VT, kill X or anything
[10:12] <eFfeM> cya Fujitsu
[10:12] <eFfeM> & thanks for your help
[10:13] <flexo_> what also still seems to work is switching window focus, but keypresses dont seem to have any effect on anything
[10:13] <Fujitsu> flexo_: Is it by any chance mallocing a lot?
[10:13] <flexo_> Fujitsu: might be
[10:13] <flexo_> (well, actually, yes, recursivly.. :)
[10:13] <Fujitsu> flexo_: That sounds like it's eating into swap or so...
[10:13] <flexo_> oh..
[10:13] <flexo_> ulimit then
[10:14] <flexo_> okay, silly me. i'm not used to swap anymore. got rid of it at home a couple of years ago. :)
[10:15] <flexo_> (just causes problems, see?) - anyway, damn swap, damn silent harddrives, thanks for the input, i was going crazy here.
[10:15] <Fujitsu> Haha.
[10:15]  * Fujitsu actually leaves.
[10:16] <Milotin> merry Christmas and happy holidays Fujitsu
[10:16] <Lilacor> how do I reset my video without restarting my x server?
[10:17] <Lilacor> irssi has a lot more functionality than bitchx from what I've seen
[10:18] <Fujitsu> right, one thing i must do before i leave...
[10:18] <Fujitsu> ergh, my keyboard seems to have died... no key repeat or shift or anything.
[10:18] <Fujitsu> Lilacor: please don't use bitchx - it has horrific security issues. we 9the security team0 would have removed it from all releases, but that's not possible.
[10:19] <eFfeM> Is it normal I see two /usr/bin/X lines in ps ax  ?
[10:21] <tarelerulz> How can you make sure mta don't load up ? I find it takes a lot of time up on the boot process. So if I don't need it to run I don't want it to run.
[10:22] <eFfeM> what is the desktop app that can be used to manage the files in .gconf?
[10:22] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: gconf-editor?
[10:22] <Fujitsu> (I still haven't managed to leave - just fixed my keyboard stuff)
[10:23] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, thanks (acutally was looking for a desktop program but this is good enough)
[10:24] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: How's that not a desktop program?
[10:24] <oldboy> hello guys
[10:24] <Fujitsu> Hi oldboy.
[10:24] <oldboy> i have a problem with my graphic drivers
[10:25] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, I meant something to start up from the menu, not from the cmd line; of course it is a desktop/gfx program
[10:25] <eFfeM> still struggling with my .xsession errors
[10:25] <oldboy> when i go to activate the desktop effects i get the message "The composite extension not available"
[10:25] <Fujitsu> oldboy: Using ATI drivers?
[10:25] <oldboy> YES
[10:25] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: Ah.
[10:25] <oldboy> Fujistu, yes
[10:26] <oldboy> fujitsu X700 mobility radeon
[10:26] <Fujitsu> oldboy: You're out of luck then, unless you want to stuff around with configuring Xgl. ATI didn't add Composite support to their proprietary drivers until very recently.
[10:27] <oldboy> Fujistzu, and what can i do for this?
[10:27] <Fujitsu> !xgl
[10:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:28] <corisco> hey all...could someone give me the name/model for a cheap linux compatible video card?  Gotta ditch the SiS.
[10:28] <zorro> Sorry but anyone got this error before: /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[10:29] <oldboy> Fujitsu, do you know any site which writes the procedure?
[10:29] <rothchild> corisco: any of the nvidia cards should do you fine
[10:29] <corisco> thanks!
[10:29] <Fujitsu> oldboy: See the link I extracted from ubotu above.
[10:30] <greedo> hmm any idea: xorg cannot set the proper 1440x900 resolution on my mac book pro rev 3 - i followed wiki+forums without much luck
[10:30] <greedo> can the nvidia drivers be the cause ?
[10:31] <oldboy> Fujitsu , thank you very much
[10:31] <oldboy> Fujitsu, i will tell you about the results the next time
[10:32] <Fujitsu> oldboy: Sure.
[10:32] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, one more q: how can I edit things with gconf-editor; if I run it as user it says I am not allowed to change the window-manager setting, if I run it as root I am editing the root config
[10:32] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: Which setting?
[10:33] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, desktop/gnome/applications/window-manager
[10:33] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, the current and default keys still mention compiz
[10:34] <Fujitsu> eFfeM: I'm able to modify them...
[10:34] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, trying again
[10:35] <AV1611> 2corisco: Matrox G-series!
[10:35] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, found it, I used "set as default" (misread it as "set to default" :-), taht one is not possible but unset key did the trick
[10:35] <eFfeM> thanks again
[10:36] <chraso> can anyone tell me what is kernel version of 7.10
[10:36] <chraso> can anyone tell me what is kernel version of 7.10?
[10:36] <zorro> Sorry but anyone got this error before: /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[10:36] <eFfeM> retrying, back in a few minutes
[10:36] <eFfeM> chraso, cat /proc/version
[10:37] <rudihawk> anyone from SA here?
[10:37] <chraso> ????
[10:37] <rudihawk> South africa
[10:37] <chraso> on win
[10:38] <ayan> hi guys! anyone had an experience with the looping bongo sound when you login after upgrading to ubuntu 7.10?
[10:38] <chraso> can't connect to net from ubu as have agere sv92pp and moto sm56 mod
[10:38] <Fujitsu> chraso: Linux 2.6.22.
[10:38] <ayan> i tried searching the forums regarding the looping sound but nothing. any idea?
[10:39] <chraso> full please as i found some site and wanted to download the modems driver
[10:39] <chazco_> hi... how can I prevent fsck running when my laptop is on battery?
[10:39] <ayan> hi guys! anyone had an experience with the looping bongo sound when you login after upgrading to ubuntu 7.10?
[10:40] <mavi-> ayan: the startup sound?
[10:40] <proto> hi ! I installed compiz but now my 'cube' has only 2 sides ? how do i get 4 ?
[10:40] <ayan> yes mavi
[10:40] <proto> dont know where to find the option
[10:40] <ayan> proto try making your workspace into 4 to get a cube
[10:40] <Fujitsu> proto: Install compizconfig-settings-manager.
[10:41] <Porpoise1954> Hi all. I've been hunting for an Adobe Premier/Ulead Video Studio equivalent for Ubuntu - anyone know of any?
[10:41] <ayan> right click the workspace choose preference and then make the workspace 4
[10:41] <proto> got compizconfig working , just dont know where to set 2 to 4
[10:41] <J_Laptop> preferences for the switcher
[10:41] <dagon^> in the corner
[10:41] <ayan> have you experienced that mavi?
[10:41] <ayan> how do you resolve it?
[10:42] <chraso> proto, use gnome-compiz-manager
[10:42] <B-rabbit> Hello Every 1
[10:42] <proto> k thx chraso
[10:42] <Fujitsu> proto: General Options -> Desktop Size in compizconfig-settings-manager.
[10:43] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, no real success, still trying to start a window manager 11 times
[10:44] <proto> thx Fujitsu it works now.. saved my day ^^
[10:44] <LimCore> why ubuntu fails so hard to be usable?
[10:44] <ripok> Hello, after latest gutsy kernel update mine soundcard driver doesn't load...it moans this: snd_via82xx: disagrees about version of symbol snd_dma_free_pages
[10:44] <LimCore> even fonts do not work in ubuntu, what happened
[10:44] <ubirc0000> anyone got experience with putting in a wpa2 key in the gnome default network manager, does the network manager truncate the key maybe?  does it want hex? i put in the key but the door is still locked
[10:44] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, and the settings in desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/current is back to what it was!
[10:44] <ripok> and:  snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol snd_dma_free_pages
[10:44] <Fujitsu> LimCore: What do you mean fonts don't work?
[10:44] <eFfeM> ;s
[10:44] <Fujitsu> ripok: Did you build some modules manually?
[10:44] <proto> k thx a lot c ya
[10:44] <LimCore> Fujitsu: polish letters  ż ó are broken,  other latin latters are borkne.  Latter L looks like 1
[10:45] <Fujitsu> `broken' isn't a very good description.
[10:45] <ayan> hi guys! anyone had an experience with the looping bongo sound when you login after upgrading to ubuntu 7.10?
[10:45] <LimCore> Fujitsu: letters like o-umlaut look like '<'
[10:45] <dagon^> ayan; looping?
[10:45] <eFfeM> Fujitsu, gconf.editor lists the key as unset, but it is still in %gconf.xml
[10:45] <ripok> I have build alsa modules some time ago, but I tried to reinstall kernel images and it won't help
[10:46] <eFfeM> lost here, actually inclined to manually edit the xml file
[10:46] <Fujitsu> ripok: Rebuild those modules, then.
[10:46] <chraso> thkx room
[10:47] <ayan> yes dagon
[10:47] <ripok> fujitsu: it's not that the repository modules didn't worked for me when I build them manually, they should work
[10:47] <Fujitsu> ripok: Rebuild or uninstall the modules that you installed manually.
[10:47] <ayan> yes it is looping... sometimes it won't but sometimes it will and i had to restart my laptop
[10:47] <Fujitsu> We don't release broken kernels.
[10:47] <sryder> does anyone know of a good guide to configuring apache2 with ssl?
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:47] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <Fujitsu> MangoMentor_: Stop that at once.
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <Fujitsu> !ops | MangoMentor_
[10:48] <ubotu> MangoMentor_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <ayan> it was working when i was using ubuntu 7.04
[10:48] <MangoMentor_> ???
[10:48] <ripok> fujitsu: so it's not enough to reinstall kernel-image?
[10:48] <Fujitsu> Thanks, tomaw.
[10:48] <tomaw> np
[10:48] <Andrew> sryder , you could try xampp, it has ssl built in, try googling xampp
[10:48] <JDahl> I am trying to install the default ubuntu 7.10 image in text-mode,  but that doesn't seem possible - is that correct?
[10:48] <ayan> but i upgraded it last night and got the problem
[10:48] <Fujitsu> ripok: Not if those modules are being loaded instead.
[10:48] <ayan> aside from that i'm not having any other issues with the new version
[10:48] <JDahl> do I need to download the alternative image for that?
[10:48] <sryder> Andrew: thanks - having a look now
[10:49] <Fujitsu> JDahl: THe alternative image is required, yes.
[10:49] <ayan> anyone who knows what to do?
[10:49] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how I can prevent fsck running when on battery?
[10:49] <MangoMentor_> sorry just testing
[10:49] <Fujitsu> MangoMentor_: That's not a way to test.
[10:50] <tomaw> MangoMentor_: np, your ? key looked a little stuck :)
[10:50] <ayan> anyone?
[10:50] <Porpoise1954_>  /msg nickserv link <Porpoise1954> <shit2x2x>
[10:50] <Fujitsu> ... oops?
[10:50] <ayan> hi guys! anyone had an experience with the looping bongo sound when you login after upgrading to ubuntu 7.10?
[10:50] <MangoMentor_> ok sorry you all are right i apologize for thar
[10:50] <MangoMentor_> that
[10:50] <cool-tv> QUI PARLE EN FRANCAIS
[10:50] <Fujitsu> ayan: Wait a bit longer between asks, please.
[10:50] <Fujitsu> !fr
[10:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:51] <chazco> I think the problem is that Ubuntu doesnt seem able to detect my battery status at boot time
[10:52] <ubirc0000> wpa2, nm-applet, no roaming, can it be done?
[10:52] <villegas> a
[10:52] <dagon^> ayan; check your soundcard and it's preferences
[10:52] <Fujitsu> ubirc0000: *No* reoaming?
[10:52] <ayan> how do i do that dagon. sorry kinda new here.
[10:53] <Fujitsu> s/reoaming/roaming/
[10:53] <ubirc0000> fujitsu: un-ticking the roaming box in nm-applet
[10:53] <Fujitsu> ubirc0000: Why do you want to do that?
[10:53] <Fujitsu> That will stop NetworkManager from touching it at all.
[10:54] <ubirc0000> fujitsu: i would like to not have the network card not roam all over the neighborhood, just want it to stick to what it knows...my AP
[10:55] <Fujitsu> ubirc0000: It will only connect to what you tell it, even in roaming mode.
[10:55] <ripok> fujitsu: I did make uninstall in alsa source dir and then aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic and then tried to load driver modprobe snd-via82xx, but same error
[10:55] <Fujitsu> ripok: Try linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:56] <Fujitsu> ripok: Also, you might need to completely unload the sound modules to get rid of incompatible external-ALSA ones, which is probably best done by rebooting.
[10:57] <Andrew> i am undecided as to what linux distro to use, can anyone explain to me the benifits of ubuntu over gentoo, debian or any other distro
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Andrew: There are many sites to give differing views, and this channel isn't appropriate for discussion of it.
[10:57] <Fujitsu> Andrew: If you want to discuss it, head to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:57] <Milotin> can someone tell me an emulator which won't make some windows programs work hard ?
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Milotin: What do you mean `work hard'?
[10:58] <ripok> fujitsu: I will try the reboot
[10:59] <Milotin> jerky
[10:59] <Fujitsu> Milotin: what are you using at the moment?
[10:59] <Milotin> Fujitsu, wine
[10:59] <Fujitsu> Milotin: Ahh. That's the only one of its kind.
[10:59] <Andrew> Fujitsu : thankyou for the redirect
[10:59] <Fujitsu> Which application is it?
[10:59] <zorro> Sorry but anyone got this error before: /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[10:59] <Milotin> Fujitsu, a mIRC Script
[11:00] <DoXiD> hey guys :) anyone ever got Beryl to work on a ATi based machine? i got the xgl running with the correct drivers and the rendering is ATi not metacity things. the only problem i have is that the themes for Beryl dosnt work (an example: i dont have the close (x) button on any frame)
[11:00] <Fujitsu> Milotin: Why mIRC? There are much better IRC clients around.
[11:00] <Fujitsu> DoXiD: Beryl is dead, and cannot really be supported.
[11:00] <Jordan_U> !beryl | DoXiD
[11:00] <ubotu> DoXiD: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:00] <Milotin> Fujitsu, i`m to familiar with mIRC and with its shortcuts ...
[11:00] <DoXiD> oh
[11:00] <vishal> DoXiD: berly is now Compiz Fusion
[11:01] <Fujitsu> vishal: No. Compiz Fusion is the preferred alternative.
[11:01] <Jordan_U> DoXiD, What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:01] <ubirc0000> fujitsu: ah, good to know, thanks :) , ... to clarify, in roaming mode, while connected to my AP, does the network card continuously still ask my neighbors AP if its still there to maintain that list up in the "tray"
[11:01] <morphles> si really didint expect ubuntu to be missing so much intresting an quite poppular (i think) packages ....
[11:01] <DoXiD> yea i knew that Compiz is the new stuff to go with but was hoping i could start off with Beryl since ive installed that and Compiz dosnt even start for me >&
[11:01] <Fujitsu> ubirc0000: It doesn't ask - it just watches.
[11:01] <Fujitsu> morphles: ... like?
[11:01] <DoXiD> Jordan_U: Feisty Fawn (7.04)
[11:01] <Jordan_U> morphles, Like what?
[11:01] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  can you tell me one which look and act la mIRC ( but not KVirc or KSirc ) ?
[11:01] <morphles> epsxe epsxe2 adom
[11:01] <Fujitsu> Milotin: I'm not sure. Many like XChat or XChat-GNOME.
[11:01] <vishal> Fujitsu:  Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.
[11:02] <morphles> also have some other that are missing but they ar not so well known
[11:02] <Milotin> I`m using Xchat right now and it doesn`t act or look like mIRC :)
[11:02] <Fujitsu> vishal: Some Beryl plugins were, but not Beryl itself.
[11:02] <morphles> and i belive there was something else more known just dont recall now
[11:02] <Jordan_U> DoXiD, You might want to upgrade to 7.10, though be sure to remove any beryl / XGL startup scripts you have added ( if any ) before doing so.
[11:03] <vishal> Fujitsu: Most of it was was moved over though wasnt it?
[11:03] <Fujitsu> morphles: I've heard very few references to any of those, and adom I've never heard of.
[11:03] <sryder> AndrewB: xampp looks good but I was hoping to configure my own apache with ssl
[11:03] <Fujitsu> epsxe is a PlayStation emulator, isn't it?
[11:03] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  and one more thing .. can i do somehow windows programs work without keep wine program.exe started in terminal ?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> vishal, No, compiz is still compiz, compiz-fusion is a replacement for compiz-extras that takes a lot from beryl
[11:03] <morphles> adom ir roguleike game like net hack
[11:03] <DoXiD> Jordan_U:  last time i ran Gutsy 50% of all my applications including the Compiz package totally failed since the applications were out of date or somthing like that.. are you sure that everything will work _ >(
[11:03] <morphles> one of still playd quite much todau
[11:04] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how I can prevent fsck running when on battery?
[11:04] <Fujitsu> sryder: Googling around is probably he best.
[11:04] <morphles> eosxe is an ps emulator
[11:04] <Jordan_U> DoXiD, No, I am not sure everything will work
[11:04] <vishal> Jordan_U: kk thanks
[11:04] <Fujitsu> morphles: There are probably significant legal issues with that.
[11:04] <Milotin> Fujitsu,  i mean to do wine program.exe and when i CTRL+C the program won`t stop. and after reboot just double click on it and start ?
[11:04] <ripok> fujitsu: I got it working, thanks
[11:04] <morphles> but pcsx is included
[11:04] <Jordan_U> DoXiD, Did you do a fresh install of Gutsy or an upgrade when it failed?
[11:05] <morphles> also ps emulator