[05:49] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, why in the heck do you want to unmount something if you only screwed up your X?
[05:49] <B|nTaRa> i just realise that im using amd 64
[05:49] <avagant> novaterata: Did you chmod anything you weren't suppose to?
[05:49] <zoidberg> it doesnt launch
[05:49] <TheReconHunter> well
[05:49] <zoidberg> its says bad command
[05:49] <zoidberg> ?
[05:49] <TheReconHunter> im trying to repartition my hard drive as well
[05:49] <B|nTaRa> but i installed xubuntu using my x86 ISO
[05:50] <B|nTaRa> should i reinstall xubuntu / ubuntu using amd 64 ISO ?
[05:50] <avagant> My next thing to try is the alternative cd, once I bork this installation up enough.
[05:50] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, fix x, then repartition.....   delete /home/yourname/.Xsession
[05:50] <dsnyders> nomin, yes, yesterday it was running dapper just fine.  I tried to upgrade to edgy, and now no ethernet, and no xwindows.
[05:50] <wastrel> you can't resize a mounted partition
[05:50] <avagant> How'd you upgrade to Edgy?
[05:50] <nomin> dsnyders, ok I see.  You did an upgrade.  Does it show up in the device manager?
[05:50] <novaterata> zoidberg check your gnome menu
[05:50] <traskbtrojanek> wastrel: Ah, I can put a Workspace Menu into my custom menu, thanks.
[05:50] <novaterata> from dapper ... dun dun dun
[05:50] <avagant> dsnyders: How did you upgrade to Edgy?
[05:51] <dsnyders> nomin, how do I start the device manager?
[05:51] <avagant> I mean what method.
[05:51] <fiveiron> dangit... stupid install disk
[05:51] <B|nTaRa> anyone can help me ?
[05:51] <TheReconHunter> im not seeing .xsession
[05:51] <B|nTaRa> should i reinstall xubuntu / ubuntu using amd 64 ISO ?
[05:51] <TheReconHunter> and i dont really remember using one
[05:51] <avagant> novaterata: Comedy beats?
[05:51] <nomin> dsnyders, btw, I'm just a novice.  On dapper it's under System>Administration>Device Manager
[05:51] <fiveiron> .Xsession...  capital X
[05:51] <pilibeen> has anybody heard of people having shutdown problems in Dapper before?....when i try to shutdown using xfce it starts to shutdown then brings me to a terminal login where I can't type anything...
[05:51] <dsnyders> avagant, I ran a couple of scripts on a website.
[05:51] <zoidberg> its not in the gnome menu either
[05:51] <menko> HI, How do I get gnome-volume-manager to open media with thunar instead of nautilus (apart from changin nautilus bin)
[05:52] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, if you can't find that file then have you just tried logging out at back in?
[05:52] <dsnyders> nomin, I do not have xwindows.  I'll need a command line solution.
[05:52] <avagant> dsnyders: Did it have "gksu update-manager -c" in it?
[05:52] <TheReconHunter> yeah
[05:52] <TheReconHunter> i just restarted
[05:52] <TheReconHunter> ill try again tho
[05:52] <novaterata> B|nTaRa did you get my message
[05:52] <nomin> dsnyders, how experienced are you with linux?
[05:52] <zcat[1] > pilibeen: it's just slipped you to the wrong console.. try alt-F? to a few others, one will be displaying all the shutdown text...
[05:52] <B|nTaRa> novaterata, nope
[05:52] <avagant> I don't recommend anyone changing their sources list to edgy because apparently there are alot of problems with that.
[05:52] <dsnyders> avagant, I do not remember.  I have seen that command since, though.
[05:53] <avagant> dsnyders: That's apparently the "prefered" way to upgrade to Edgy.
[05:53] <avagant> Otherwise you might have problems.
[05:53] <novaterata> ok B| i asked if you enabled your universe and multiverse sources in package manager
[05:53] <dsnyders> nomin, I've been running fedora for a few years.  I switched to ubuntu a month or two ago.
[05:54] <senthil> hi
[05:54] <B|nTaRa> novaterata, i did
[05:54] <novaterata> so you installed the codecs already
[05:54] <hektik> is their a remote desktop option on the livecd so somone can see my desktop while im on the live cd ?
[05:54] <B|nTaRa> i still searching / reading on how to install the codecs
[05:54] <novaterata> did you try oss instead of alsa?
[05:54] <avagant> or alsa-oss?
[05:54] <avagant> even better!
[05:54] <fiveiron> any idea why the installation of 6.10 would stall after I click forward on the "Prepare disk space" screen?  It just sits there not doing anything
[05:55] <thomas_> hey i'm having trouble locking the version of a package in synaptic. Its got a lower version than a package available in repositories, and i'm installing this package manually. Everytime i update my computer, the package updates, which is not what i want. The Lock Version button in synaptic does not seem to be functioning, can somebody help me with this?
[05:55] <dsnyders> avagant, I've tried that command since the original upgrade failed.  However, with no XWindows, the gksu command fails.
[05:55] <hektik> is their a remote desktop option on the livecd so somone can see my desktop while im on the live cd ?
[05:55] <pilibeen> zcat[1] : yeah i've tried checking the other terminals...the only which isn't a login is F8, which shows me exactly what it always shows...list of startup checks
[05:55] <novaterata> the easiest is probably to install Automatix2 and let it do that
[05:55] <avagant> why don't you have a xwindows?
[05:55] <senthil> where is the 2nd level localization source code ... i like to learn this
[05:55] <Mantice> How do you show hidden files in ubuntu???
[05:55] <novaterata> you have to install that yourself but its not hard just google Automatix2
[05:55] <bimberi> hektik: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[05:55] <avagant> Is it like a server install or something?
[05:55] <fiveiron> dsnyders, apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:55] <zcat[1] > pilibeen: weird.
[05:55] <dsnyders> avagant, apparently that's one of the ways the upgrade can fail.
[05:55] <fiveiron> dsnyders, man apt-get
[05:55] <thomas_> !automatix
[05:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:55] <avagant> Ahhh.
[05:55] <bimberi> Mantice: <ctrl>H  (in nautilus)
[05:55] <dsnyders> fiveiron.  apt-get needs an internet connection, no?
[05:55] <avagant> Yah see I just ran gksu "update-manager -c" in windows.
[05:56] <avagant> ERrr in dapper.
[05:56] <bimberi> lol
[05:56] <avagant> Silly spelling.
[05:56] <fiveiron> dsnyders, no... if you have the files already, I'm assuming you can just install from those
[05:56] <novaterata> i didn't know that, well it works great for me, anyway if you don't want to do that then just install everything gstreamer
[05:56] <jobless_> guys i have a problem with my mouse.. the pointer acceleration does not increase though i change the setting..!
[05:56] <avagant> I wanna try that beryl edgy thing, but I'm NOT sure my computer can handle, and the last time I tried I borked my xsession file pretty bad.
[05:56] <avagant> errr just Beryl my bad.
[05:57] <Mantice> bimberi: thanks
[05:57] <fiveiron> avagant, thats why you make a .Xsession.bak
[05:57] <skelter> can anyone help me troubleshoot a lack-of-sound issue?
[05:57] <dsnyders> fiveiron, I have the edgy iso, but I have been unable to find instructions on how to point apt-get at the iso
[05:57] <bimberi> Mantice: np :)
[05:57] <avagant> fiveiron: usually, but it's me.
[05:57] <TheReconHunter> alright, im back, with no more luck
[05:57] <B|nTaRa> novaterata, problem solved .. i can play .avi / .mp4 using VLC player
[05:57] <avagant> fiveiron: and then i got gnome to show up again cept everytime i restarted it would pop up that it couldn't start and then start anyways.
[05:58] <booger> does any one know of a good video confer app?
[05:58] <avagant> i need detailed instructions, PLUS I don't know what videocard, whatever you need I have.
[05:58] <hektik> bimberbi: are you sure its in taht location ?
[05:58] <novaterata> yeah vlc always works, but if you install gstreamer or xine plugins you can play them in other things
[05:58] <TheReconHunter> geez, its even worse than befor
[05:58] <TheReconHunter> e
[05:58] <novaterata> although i would use vlc anyway
[05:58] <avagant> ubuntuforums.org has plenty of tutorials.
[05:58] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, what exactly is the problem?
[05:59] <TheReconHunter> text just randomly flashes in and out
[05:59] <TheReconHunter> and iit seems as if something is very wrong here
[05:59] <avagant> He's in the Matrix basically.
[05:59] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, don't be overly dramatic... you've only screwed up your xwindows
[05:59] <novaterata> anyone, i'm rarely on irc is there a search engine for channels that is good
[05:59] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, have you tried removing the beryl files?
[05:59] <TheReconHunter> lol
[05:59] <avagant> How do I found out if I can run beryl?
[06:00] <B|nTaRa> novaterata, such as ?
[06:00] <avagant> Or better yet, what equipment I have to find that out?
[06:00] <TheReconHunter> well, something is wrong
[06:00] <B|nTaRa> nvm
[06:00] <TheReconHunter> i have a half complied version of beryl
[06:00] <TheReconHunter> a verision of beryl that doesnt work from teh repos
[06:00] <bimberi> hektik: i haven't checked on the latest LiveCD, but it's usually there
[06:00] <TheReconHunter> and yes, i did try removing the files
[06:00] <fiveiron> do you have a .beryl config or something?
[06:00] <OC-William> will ubuntu detect a ps2 kb and mouse automatically?
[06:00] <avagant> I need to figure out what videocard I have, so I can see if I can run beryl.
[06:00] <fiveiron> (i've never used beryl)
[06:01] <novaterata> i'm looking for help with amule and i dont' even want to bother you guys with it but this is the only channel i know where people are helpful
[06:01] <grekkos> anyone have a problem with the Gaim install on Edgy? when I try to add an account the protocol drop-down list is empty
[06:01] <TheReconHunter> i really dont know, i followed some tutorial
[06:01] <fiveiron> avagant, you might try a beryl chatroom
[06:01] <TheReconHunter> on teh beryl site
[06:01] <TheReconHunter> and it didnt work
[06:01] <grekkos> who needs help with beryl?
[06:01] <avagant> Is there one?
[06:01] <TheReconHunter> i wanted to upgrade to edgy any way
[06:01] <fiveiron> TheReconHunter, if you could give me a url i might be able to help you
[06:01] <grekkos> avagant: join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:01] <novaterata> all usb keyboards should work on the same driver
[06:01] <grekkos> avagant: there's help there for xgl and beryl
[06:01] <avagant> grekkos: I really just want to find out if I can actually do it.
[06:01] <novaterata> i mean ps2 recognized imac keyboard
[06:01] <grekkos> avagant: what exactly?
[06:01] <TheReconHunter> Fiveiron: i doubt its worth it- i backed up any important files
[06:01] <novaterata> oh way, ps2 or ps2 like playstation?
[06:02] <TheReconHunter> and i want to reformat my hard drive
[06:02] <TheReconHunter> but i cannot use gparted
[06:02] <avagant> Well I don't know what videocard whatever I have.
[06:02] <avagant> I wanna know man!
[06:02] <avagant> haha
[06:02] <avagant> I know I have alot of ATI stuff.
[06:02] <Mantice> Whats go to desktop button in ubuntu
[06:02] <avagant> It's on the lower left.
[06:03] <novaterata> what like F11 in OS X
[06:03] <Mantice> is there a short cut for it ?
[06:03] <avagant> I don't know, but it's that button that's blue on the lower left of the screen.
[06:03] <Mantice> like windows D for desktop.
[06:03] <novaterata> there is a show desktop icon on one of the panels
[06:03] <avagant> novaterata: lower left.
[06:03] <avagant> haha
[06:04] <wastrel> ctrl shift d shows desktop in gnome
[06:04] <wastrel> sry ctrl alt d
[06:04] <avagant> Well, maybe having crazy graphics with beryl wouldn't be a good idea anyways.
[06:04] <avagant> I don't know if this old heap could handle it.
[06:04] <novaterata> msg avagant i made mine look like windows and mac at the same time in case i'm in a particular mood there it is
[06:05] <TheReconHunter> is it worht it to upgrade to edgy?
[06:05] <avagant> novaterata: what your ubuntu?
[06:05] <avagant> or beryl?
[06:05] <novaterata> msg avagant edgy
[06:05] <TheReconHunter> like is it stable
[06:05] <TheReconHunter> etc?
[06:05] <avagant> ahhhhh
[06:05] <avagant> edgy is not very stable.
[06:05] <novaterata> i think he means what do you press in a Dialog box to quickly switch to desktop
[06:05] <booger> :--
[06:05] <wastrel> i like edgy real good
[06:05] <novaterata> i don't think there is one
[06:05] <wastrel> depends on your hardware & what apps you want to use :]
[06:05] <novaterata> all my hardware actually works in edgy
[06:06] <TheReconHunter> i mostly want to use it for listening to music
[06:06] <TheReconHunter> and beryl
[06:06] <TheReconHunter> and my hardware is pretty good
[06:06] <avagant> somebody answer me!
[06:06] <avagant> hahaha
[06:06] <novaterata> although i still don't know if my 5.1 headphones (thats right headphones) get all 6 channels
[06:06] <avagant> how do i find out what videocard i have, to use with beryl?
[06:06] <Mantice> How do I run a program in wine ?
[06:06] <novaterata> lol oh, um Device Manager?
[06:07] <novaterata> thats where it says mine
[06:07] <novaterata> did you winecfg
[06:07] <Mantice> dw
[06:07] <grekkos> Ok i'm sorry i want afk a sec i donno if anybody answered my question
[06:07] <grekkos> ok nvm they didn't
[06:07] <avagant> hmmm.
[06:07] <avagant> guess i can't find beryl anyways.
[06:07] <grekkos> What's up with the Gaim on Ubuntu
[06:08] <grekkos> oh avagant try this guide
[06:08] <grekkos> let me get you the link
[06:08] <avagant> k
[06:08] <klerfayt> how to load psmouse rate=40 instead of 80 at start up?
[06:08] <grekkos> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php?title=Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL&printable=yes#Graphic_Card_Drivers_and_3D_Video_Acceleration
[06:08] <zcat[1] > btw; I have a question; How can I get the ubuntu 6.10 bootdisk to recognise my raid array on a Compaq DL380 ? cpqarray conflicts with the 53C1510 driver.   :D
[06:25] <AsheD> hehe
[06:25] <AsheD> gotta be smarter than the bots :P
[06:25] <czer323> Hey!   For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:27] <mattthebaker> has anyone had success configuring a samba share using gnome's built in admin tool?
[06:27] <botxj> where's ubotu!
[06:27] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[06:27] <Madpilot> botxj, use XChat instead
[06:27] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:27] <heatxsink> hi guys, retarded question, but when I'm logged into my box, and I manually edit /etc/hostname by hand, when I try to log out, and log back in I can't SUDO anymore!!!  I can't remmeber how to change a hostname!!! Help!
[06:27] <botxj> aight Madpilot
[06:27] <AsheD> botxj:: they didn't freeze mIRC, they overloaded your SendQ on the server, so you got booted
[06:27] <Flannel> !hostname | heatxsink
[06:27] <ubotu> heatxsink: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[06:27] <novaterata> if you are on windows there is a free version of Xchat you have to search around for
[06:28] <Flannel> heatxsink: you'll need to use the recovery console to set them correctly
[06:28] <heatxsink> hahahaha
[06:28] <AsheD> Xchat is Linux :)
[06:28] <heatxsink> yup
[06:28] <heatxsink> did it
[06:28] <neuro_> don't have to search too hard
[06:28] <neuro_> www.silverex.org
[06:28] <novaterata> Xchat is everything
[06:28] <botxj> AsheD i did say they flooded me with CTCP Version requests
[06:28] <novaterata> mac or win too
[06:28] <wastrel> gnome has a GUI for changing hostname
[06:28] <novaterata> its the best on Max OS X
[06:28] <jrib> heatxsink: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu (so you can edit /etc/hosts)
[06:28] <bimberi> heatxsink: you need to get into recovery mode and make sure /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname match
[06:28] <Madpilot> novaterata, far as I know, all versions of XChat are free...
[06:28] <AsheD> botxj:: yes, they did, but that by itself won't crash mIRC
[06:28] <neuro_> silverex does the win32 builds for x-chat that aren't shareware
[06:28] <aSt3raL_> my edgy quit working
[06:28] <Mez> bless xchat's network send queue
[06:28] <aSt3raL_> hangs on boot up
[06:28] <mattthebaker> irssi has been my fav since my gentoo livecd days
[06:28] <novaterata> Madpilot the official Windows XChat2 i think tis called is shareware
[06:28] <botxj> AsheD my mIRC didnt crash though just froze for a couple of minutes
[06:29] <aSt3raL_> anyone know of thi problem?
[06:29] <aSt3raL_> *this
[06:29] <novaterata> freedom without the pizza
[06:29] <novaterata> like redhat
[06:29] <heatxsink> bimberi:  got it
[06:29] <botxj> !ubotu
[06:29] <heatxsink> jrib:  thanks
[06:29] <heatxsink> bimberi:  thanks
[06:29] <botxj> !unrar
[06:29] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:30] <nixternal> man i got owned during that crap
[06:30] <bimberi> heatxsink: np :)
[06:30] <aSt3raL_> what would cause edgy to freeze at the beginning of booting?
[06:30] <novaterata> a bad peripheral driver etc
[06:30] <bimberi> nixternal which irc client?
[06:31] <nixternal> jeesh the lag
[06:31] <novaterata> i used to have a toshiba satellite pro that would hang if the pcmcia was on
[06:31] <aSt3raL_> is there a way to see the boot items?
[06:31] <novaterata> or soemthing like that
[06:31] <aSt3raL_> its nice that edgy got rid of all that except when something goes wrong on boot you have no idea what the problem is
[06:31] <novaterata> can't you cntrl-alt-F1 whatever
[06:32] <novaterata> tty1 pardon my english
[06:32] <Flannel> aSt3raL_: when grub boots, remove to quiet and stuff
[06:32] <heatxsink> bimberi:  do you happen to know how to get rid of that garbage that shows up above the prompt when logging into a teriminal?
[06:32] <heatxsink> bimberi:  and via ssh
[06:32] <aSt3raL_> its in the grub settings?
[06:32] <Flannel> heatxsink: garbage?
[06:32] <aSt3raL_> have a filename?
[06:32] <nixternal> konversation, im filing a bug
[06:32] <jbroome> heatxsink: look at /etc/motd
[06:32] <Flannel> aSt3raL_: it's the boot options, you can set them in grub
[06:32] <aSt3raL_> how do i configure grub?
[06:32] <heatxsink> jbroome:  do I just delete everything?
[06:33] <bimberi> heatxsink: edit /etc/motd
[06:33] <Flannel> aSt3raL_: get to your grub menu, and inside grub you can edit 'e' the commands
[06:33] <jbroome> heatxsink: delete what you want.  i usually keep the first line w/the kernel ver
[06:34] <B|nTaRa> hmm
[06:34] <heatxsink> jbroome:  i deleted everything and I still get Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS <hostname> tty1
[06:34] <PFA> we need some high wattage in here
[06:34] <novaterata> did you know you can use cygwin in windows to chmod and rm pesky undeletable folders?
[06:34] <neuro_> heatxsink: you need to edit /etc/issue
[06:35] <Lathiat> heatxsink: what garbage?
[06:35] <mattthebaker> ack... is the gnome shares tool worth messing with, or should i just edit smb.conf?
[06:35] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs
[06:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:35] <Lathiat> heatxsink: the "ubuntu 6.10 ..." is from /etc/issue
[06:36] <neuro_> Lathiat: i just said that :)
[06:36] <prasys_> hello
[06:36] <B|nTaRa> !fuse
[06:36] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:36] <WerdnaDesktop> anybody here got some ideas for freeing space?
[06:37] <B|nTaRa> !ntfs-3g
[06:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[06:37] <WerdnaDesktop> roar, ph8
[06:37] <WerdnaDesktop> and PhilKC
[06:37] <prasys_> guys is there a way to enable OpenGL/3d on ati xpress 200m
[06:38] <heatxsink> how about when I log in how the hostname is in front of the login prompt?
[06:38] <heatxsink> can I take that out?
[06:39] <neuro_> heatxsink: iirc that's hardcoded into /bin/login but i could be wrong
[06:39] <bimberi> WerdnaDesktop: 'sudo apt-get clean' (clears out apt's package cache)
[06:39] <Werdnum> bimberi: done that.
[06:40] <Werdnum> omfg kline
[06:40] <aSt3raL_> i removed quiet from grub and it shows a little bit of text real fast and then goes to the startup splash screen and freezes
[06:40] <prasys_> this isreally weird
[06:40] <prasys_> i am using fglrx
[06:40] <prasys_> and it does not work
[06:41] <Lathiat> aSt3raL_: take splash off as well
[06:41] <Lathiat> or is it you add 'nosplash'
[06:41] <Lathiat> one of the two
[06:41] <aSt3raL_> i cant boot into recovery mode either
[06:42] <B|nTaRa> !diskmounter
[06:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:42] <aSt3raL_> it hangs on running /scripts/local-top
[06:42] <aSt3raL_> last line is ata2: SATA max ...
[06:43] <godmachine81> what the heck
[06:43] <botxj> what the booble
[06:44] <godmachine81> ive got my gtk2 themes all screwed up in gnome
[06:44] <godmachine81> i'll apply one theme and it only changes certain parts of the theme
[06:44] <godmachine81> and keeps the parts of the other one
[06:44] <aSt3raL_> it does ata1 then ata2 and sits there
[06:44] <wastrel> prasys_:  did you use the fglrx howto on the wiki?  that got mine working
[06:44] <aSt3raL_> is this a filesystem problem?
[06:45] <prasys_> yes
[06:45] <aSt3raL_> i can boot into windowsxp on this machine so the system is ok
[06:45] <prasys_> wastrel, i followed it
[06:45] <prasys_> for some reason it does not load fglrx
[06:45] <prasys_> i am not sure why
[06:45] <wastrel> prasys_:  check errors in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:46] <prasys_> sure let me check
[06:46] <prasys_> is it because i need to allocate memory to UMA
[06:46] <wastrel> i dunno :]
[06:47] <ivx> hey i am under the impression that one can add hardware to the hardware support page, but how. i am trying to add my notebook
[06:47] <maple1> does ubuntu have fluxbox in the repositories?
[06:49] <outRider> can someone briefly explain how ubuntu and its repos work? is it the case that packages on the official repos (main and restricted) wont be updated at all for edgy?
[06:49] <wastrel> !info fluxbox
[06:49] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1.0rc2-1 (edgy), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[06:49] <jrib> ivx: it's a wiki, after you register you should be able to edit (link at the top)
[06:51] <nalioth> outRider: they'll be updated for 18 months from the release date
[06:52] <neuro_> longer for dapper, natch
[06:52] <nalioth> outRider: dapper has a few years of support in front of it
[06:52] <ivx> jrib alright i'll see if i can swing it, thanks
[06:52] <prasys_> okay let me reboot
[06:53] <outRider> nalioth, so if new versions of say gnome or totem or nautilus come out ill see it on the edgy repo?
[06:53] <bimberi> outRider: main and restricted won't change in the "edgy" distro.  Security updates come through edgy-security and others through edgy-updates
[06:53] <wastrel> yeah that, security updates only on the current distro, upgrade in 6months for new software
[06:53] <nalioth> outRider: security updates for certain, not so sure about all updates
[06:54] <nalioth> outRider: i suspect you'll be looking at the next release for "the latest and greatest"
[06:54] <wastrel> feisty
[06:54] <outRider> does that include device drivers?
[06:54] <bcribbs> wups
[06:54] <wastrel> the running distro does get kernel updates i believe
[06:55] <wastrel> s/running distro/release version/
[06:55] <bimberi> yes, although they're mostly security related, not additional drivers
[06:55] <bcribbs> furio: Did you get that
[06:55] <outRider> er, sorry i mean binary drivers like nvidia-glx, i noticed that 8774 went to 8876, will the final 9xxx released yesterday eventually show up?
[06:56] <ivx> so do we have to remeber that password we created or was that just a tempary thing
[06:56] <neuro_> Mez: ping
[06:56] <Mez> neuro_, pong, sup?
[06:57] <neuro_> Mez: thanks mate, sorry, was just checking i was still alive
[06:57] <neuro_> cheers
[06:57] <wwweasel> A bit of help. I am installing Edgy on a new computer and I can't get flashplugin-nonfree working...insta crash whenever I try to view a flash enabled page.
[06:57] <Chandan> hi
[06:57] <Mez> neuro, simple solution
[06:57] <Mez> !ping
[06:57] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[06:57] <outRider> wwweasel, are you using 32bit intel?
[06:57] <wwweasel> outRider: Yep, all normal.
[06:58] <Chandan> I want to know ho Ubuntu has done boot message very simple ..rather than Debian echoing lot of boot messages
[06:58] <highneko> What's the best way to transfer files from one computer to another? They both have internet.
[06:58] <bimberi> wwweasel: look for fixes here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911
[06:58] <Fulcrum> Whats smoother, ubuntu on a P2 400MHZ with 192MEM or a G3 400MHZ with 256MEM?  I read it likes 512+
[06:58] <outRider> uyou can get the flash9 beta module from adobe's site, download it, extract the .so file to your home dir in .mozilla/plugins
[06:59] <wwweasel> bimberi: no error message
[06:59] <pilibeen> is there a command to shutdown not as root?
[06:59] <wwweasel> outRider: I tried doing the beta too...no help
[06:59] <bimberi> wwweasel: i mean things like adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:59] <SeAofSaRo_> hey what is the other installer command, not apt-get but the other one
[07:00] <bimberi> SeAofSaRo_: aptitude ?
[07:00] <grekkos> apt-build?
[07:00] <grekkos> SeAofSaRo_: are you looking fot the command to launch the GUI or what?
[07:00] <Fulcrum> highneko, maybe FTP or some client server program like KDX www.haxial.com, win uses SMB file file share, and mac uses AFP, not sure if there is a linux standard
[07:00] <daftvader> hi can anyone tell me how to stop shift+backkspace from killing my xwindow?
[07:01] <prasys_> thanks guys ,i managed to fix it by using 128MB of VRAM
[07:01] <daftvader> do I have to create a start-up script?
[07:01] <bimberi> highneko: i use sftp by installing openssh-server on one of the machines (sftp is installed by default)
[07:01] <SeAofSaRo_> no, not to launch the gui
[07:01] <ayaa> I have this problem with xserver: Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0), how to know wich package can provide this module ?
[07:01] <SeAofSaRo_> i was trying to install beryl and someone suggested a command that was like apt-get but it was something else
[07:02] <bimberi> SeAofSaRo_: aptitude
[07:02] <bimberi> SeAofSaRo_: or perhaps: dpkg -i file.deb
[07:02] <Fulcrum> does ubunto server have all ubuntu stuff plus more like apache?
[07:02] <highneko> bimberi: That sounds good. I'll try this. Thank you.
[07:02] <bimberi> highneko: yw :)
[07:03] <highneko> bimberi: What machine shoudl I install it on? The one I want fiels from?
[07:03] <highneko> No, it doesn't require installation.
[07:03] <bimberi> highneko: yep, on the machine you're not regularly using
[07:03] <paitart> hi! how do i upgrade the firefox onmy 6.06LTS system?
[07:04] <bimberi> Fulcrum: yes, and php, mysql, ...
[07:05] <Fulcrum> k thanx
[07:05] <paitart> hi! how do i upgrade the firefox onmy 6.06LTS system? i want to use firefox 2
[07:06] <Fulcrum> pa... try http://getswiftfox.com/
[07:06] <Fulcrum> its supposed to be firefox optimized for linux
[07:07] <basler_> spanish?
[07:07] <Cranky-Deb> Isn't it firefox optimized for various processors?  not for linux...
[07:07] <basler_> espaol?
[07:07] <Madpilot> !es
[07:07] <basler_> help me.
[07:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:07] <Cranky-Deb> BasL, si?
[07:08] <LGKeiz> asdfasdf
[07:08] <racter> hi -- i have a process question w/r/t developing ubuntu; how do those working on the project share and manage code?  do you use something like SVN?
[07:09] <LGKeiz> racter - repo
[07:09] <LGKeiz> .. i don't know how it goes
[07:10] <LGKeiz> but it automatically updates, it's like windows update
[07:10] <LGKeiz> if you think about it
[07:10] <wastrel> racter:  try #ubuntu-dev
[07:10] <wastrel> sorry #ubuntu-devel
[07:11] <Mantice> Hey guys
[07:11] <dorto> Fulcrum, is swiftfox safe to install from the deb? does it put the files in the right location so as not to break apt-get in the future?
[07:11] <Mantice> How do I get my boot menu to boot windows ???
[07:12] <ayaa> I have this problem with xserver: Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0), how to know wich package can provide this module ?
[07:12] <Mantice> Whats ubuntus boot menu called ?
[07:12] <wastrel> Mantice:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:12] <Fulcrum> can ubuntu read and write to mac journaled, and FAT32 windows hard drives with long file names?  anyone mix HDs?
[07:13] <Fulcrum> dorto i haven't tried it so not sure, and i think cranky is correct that its like linux firefox, but possibly quicker because its optimized for AMD and Intel chips
[07:13] <Mantice> My windows boots of a SATA hard drive how to I fix this ?
[07:14] <Mantice> It says HD1
[07:16] <dorto> Fulcrum, yeah, they have a separate version for my Athlon-XP processor. Will install it first in vmware and will try it out
[07:17] <^^Gene^^> hi everybody !!
[07:17] <^^Gene^^> at end, the bots get out !!
[07:17] <soggylappy> nz
[07:19] <stegel> anone had the problem where they cannot remove the libgnomeui-common package
[07:20] <hill0703> can someone who knows OpenOffice help me out?
[07:20] <paitart> Hi! I'm using 6.06LTS. My problem is this: My laptop hangs/freezes everytime I insert a USB flashdrive. What could be the problem and solution?
[07:20] <hill0703> I want to add another data series to a graph in Calc, but I don't know how to do it without starting over and making a new graph
[07:21] <Jordan_U> stegel: What error are you getting when you try /  why are you ttrying to remove it?
[07:21] <Explosif> whats a good IDE to use with C#?
[07:21] <paitart> Hi! I'm using 6.06LTS. My problem is this: My laptop hangs/freezes everytime I insert a USB flashdrive. What could be the problem and solution?
[07:21] <globe> Explosif: icshapcode
[07:21] <globe> or something like that
[07:21] <stegel> subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127...Jordan_U
[07:21] <Explosif> thanks
[07:22] <highneko> What do I enter for ssh.server.com in<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:22] <stegel> Jordan_U print screen...http://pastebot.nd.edu/415
[07:22] <globe> I am trying to install my hp printer, and gnome is asking me where the driver is...where is it?
[07:23] <shrndegruv> whats the url of the edgy howtos?
[07:23] <shrndegruv> for installing common software and whatnot?
[07:23] <watson540> does anyone in here know about patching files? i tried to do it but it didnt seem to take.
[07:23] <shrndegruv> lost the link
[07:23] <wastrel> wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[07:23] <shrndegruv> no
[07:23] <shrndegruv> i think it had tips and tricks in the title
[07:24] <dorto> Explosif, try monodevelop
[07:26] <Explosif> dorto thanks
[07:30] <WerdnaDesktop> !dcom
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <WerdnaDesktop> grrr
[07:30] <highneko> ssh: connect to host $HOSTNAME port 22: Connection refused; Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer;
[07:31] <highneko> Both computers I'm using have the same $HOSTNAME. Does that matter? Why does this fail? sftp highneko:password@$HOSTNAME
[07:32] <Jordan_U> stegel: Because that error talks about something being missing it might not be removing correctly because somehow it isn't installed correctly, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libgnomeui-common -phigh
[07:33] <stegel> gconf-schemas: not found
[07:33] <stegel> that is what i get Jordan_U
[07:33] <sin> sup guys
[07:33] <wastrel> highneko:  see if you can get there by ip
[07:34] <highneko> wastrel: k
[07:34] <sin> i found a flash 9 install for linux but its a tgz on adobes site, is there possibly a way to install it already via apt-get
[07:34] <NewcomerXb> At the point in bootup where the root partition mounts, it freezes until i flick the external hard drive off and on again, then it resumes
[07:34] <highneko> wastrel: So, I would replace my hostname with the ip?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> stegel: When you try to remove or when you try to reconfigure?
[07:34] <NewcomerXb> Can i be saved? :/
[07:34] <stegel> both
[07:35] <wastrel> highneko:  yes
[07:35] <stegel> my results for apt-get remove are on 415
[07:35] <stegel> oops
[07:35] <stegel> http://pastebot.nd.edu/415
[07:35] <Mantice> Dude you guys some some one has put a symbol or somthing in a topic name and it crashes my Xchat.
[07:36] <Mantice> for some random channel.
[07:36] <t3m17> I've got xgl as the default session and now I can't shutdown
[07:36] <Mantice> if I do a /list ill crash.
[07:36] <t3m17> how do I add shutdown as an option
[07:36] <dorto> sin: flash 9 beta is not available in the ubuntu repository or as a DEB package; you have to extract .tgz and copy .so file in ~/firefox/plugins
[07:37] <wastrel> Mantice:  don't do /list
[07:37] <Mantice> Can some one help me edit my Grub boot file ?
[07:37] <xenon> hi
[07:37] <t3m17> hi
[07:37] <WerdnaDesktop> Mantice: nano <nameoffile>
[07:37] <Mantice> It does it by defult and I cant stop it.
[07:38] <Mantice> I can only join when it says network is busy cant do a list or somthing like that.
[07:38] <Jordan_U> t3m17: All I know is that shutdown isn't available becasue you are using seperate sessions and gnome can't access GDM ( so it is a problem that everyone with XGL installed as a session has including me ), I don't know if there is a way to fix it, but try #ubuntu-xgl
[07:38] <Mantice> I am editing the grub config file I just dont know what to do.
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Mantice: What are you trying to do ?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Mantice: specifically
[07:39] <Mantice> I have a IDE HD and I have 2 SATA HD's called sda1 and sdb1. I want to boot windows off sda1.
[07:40] <sin> my Beryl XGL works just fine
[07:40] <Kaiyang> hi need help on Networking.. Please view http://sg.geocities.com/legendary616/
[07:40] <squeee> How do I set up an nfsroot?
[07:40] <Mantice> and I boot off my IDE one btw.
[07:40] <Kaiyang> How to make my Apache on PC 2 and PC 3 Accessible to public?
[07:40] <noodles12> my volume buttons on my keyboard change the volume of the microphone. How do i make it change the main volume? I change the preferences and all it does is change which vol is shown in the taskbar.
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Mantice: maybe #grub?
[07:41] <stegel> Jordan_U do you have any suggestions?
[07:41] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  you'd have to portmap to the 2 machines behind the NAT box.
[07:41] <stegel> Kaiyang, i don't suggest asking homework questions on IRC...usually get a lot of sh*t for that
[07:41] <Kaiyang> Sorry I am a newbie in networking. Cannot understand what u mean Wastrel
[07:42] <Kaiyang> No... I am runing ubuntu server on PC 2
[07:42] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  your internet provider only gave you one IP address.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> stegel: Possibly to try to install gconf to try to get gconf-schemas ( whatever that is ) back so the removal script doesn't complain.
[07:42] <Kaiyang> and I cant make it accessiable
[07:42] <Kaiyang> Yes i only have 1 IP
[07:42] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  so you can only assign that IP address to one of your computers.
[07:43] <wastrel> the other 2 can't be reached
[07:43] <Mantice> Any any one else help every one is sleeping in #grub
[07:43] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  there's a way to get around this - sortof - using portmapping
[07:43] <Kaiyang> How do I do that?
[07:43] <Kaiyang> portmapping?
[07:43] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  but it's not the same as having direct access.
[07:43] <Kaiyang> example?
[07:44] <WerdnaDesktop> Where can I find a tutorial of some description for DCOM (controlling Kaffeine, amaroK, Konversation, et al)
[07:44] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  portmapping is when the router recieves a request from the internet on a specific port, it knows to send it to a specific machine on the LAN.
[07:44] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  for example, a connection from the internet on port 25 would be sent to a mail server on the LAN
[07:45] <stegel> thanks Jordan_U
[07:45] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  but it's not going to work for multiple web servers, because they all need port 80
[07:45] <squeee> How do i set up an nfs root?
[07:45] <Kaiyang> I see I have web servers for PC... port 80 for apache, and port 8080 for TOMCAT
[07:45] <Kaiyang> PC1
[07:46] <Mantice> fdisk -i dont work for info about hard drives any other commands ?
[07:46] <Kaiyang> Does that seems the same?
[07:47] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  yes, webservers normally use port 80 , and 8080 is also common
[07:47] <sin> if i install XFCE on Ubuntu can i choose from the sessions between Gnome and XFCE before i login?
[07:47] <wastrel> sin:  yes i think so
[07:47] <Jordan_U> sin: yes.
[07:47] <sin> ok
[07:47] <Kaiyang> So I do I portmap?
[07:47] <Kaiyang> Need any software?
[07:47] <sin> anyone also able to run Beryl/XGL in xfce too?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> sin: I know it can be done, but I don't know how, try #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[07:48] <sin> ok..
[07:48] <Jordan_U> sin: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:49] <sin> its that easy?
[07:49] <sin> :-P
[07:49] <sin> darn!
[07:49] <wastrel> Kaiyang:  You can find it in your router config.  if you want to connect from the internet to pc2, you'll have to set up a router on pc1 also
[07:49] <Jordan_U> sin: Yup, are you on edgy?
[07:49] <sin> yea
[07:49] <khalsa> Hello: Linux newbiw (complete). Just installed ubuntu. Used synaptic to install some stuff. Then I saw Automatix thing. Was running automatix when accidentally unplugged computer. Now synaptic/automatix/update thing all fail and dont work. Tried "fix broken packages" in synaptic--no good. Tried sudu apt-get install -f -- no good. Seems to have Failed on installation of VLC. Unable to remove or add those packages. Help?
[07:50] <Flannel> khalsa: stay away from automatix.  With your current state, you're probably better off reinstalling
[07:50] <Jordan_U> sin: Ok, if you want to ever remove XFCE and all the programs that came with it, run: sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop
[07:50] <wastrel> !automatix
[07:50] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[07:50] <Kaiyang> well my modem is a router gateway
[07:50] <Kaiyang> not sure is there such feature
[07:50] <Mantice> Any one here have exprence with grub and windows xp and sata hard drives /
[07:50] <khalsa> oh.. ok. That's unfortunate. Thanks
[07:50] <Flannel> khalsa: automatix is unfortunate ;)
[07:51] <khalsa> second question: I want to play the game Tremulous, what do I need to install other than the game itself to play? (opengl?)
[07:51] <Axidus> c
[07:51] <sin> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:51] <Axidus> Has anyone worked with samba
[07:51] <Axidus> I need help setting up my xp and ubuntu
[07:51] <Mez> argh
[07:51] <Kaiyang> Does Port Forwarding means the same for port mapping?
[07:51] <Flannel> !dualboot | Axidus
[07:51] <ubotu> Axidus: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:51] <Mez> whats the package to install to get the ATI control panel?
[07:52] <dorto> whenever ubuntu boots, I am getting "Internal error failed to initialize HAL" dialog box. USB pen drives are not automatically mounted anymore!
[07:52] <dorto> any way to fix this?
[07:52] <Axidus> not a dual boot , I need to network both boxes together
[07:52] <ircm0nkey> hi guys
[07:52] <Axidus> but I cant seem to get samba going
[07:52] <charle97> dorto, do you any cds in your drives?
[07:52] <Axidus> I see the network on my ubuntu box but not on my xp box
[07:52] <Jordan_U> khalsa: If you have your graphics card set up, just:  sudo apt-get install tremulous
[07:52] <wastrel> sin:  make sure you have universe enabled
[07:52] <charle97> dorto, have*
[07:53] <grekkos> can anyone tell me the command to change my hotkeys?
[07:53] <sin> hmm how do i double check that
[07:53] <grekkos> everytime I hit shift and backspace x restarts
[07:53] <sin> i thought i had it
[07:53] <grekkos> lol
[07:53] <Flannel> grekkos: #ubuntu-xgl (it's an XGL thing)
[07:53] <grekkos> oh it is
[07:53] <dorto> charle97, CDs are not getting mounted either
[07:53] <grekkos> ok
[07:53] <grekkos> Flannel: thansk, i wasn't sure
[07:53] <khalsa> Jordan_U: I dont think i have graphics card setup. I dont even know what kind of graphics card I have (looks ok though)
[07:53] <Axidus> has anyone worked with samba before?
[07:53] <charle97> dorto, but at startup do you have any cds in your drives?
[07:54] <sin> wastrel, how do i check that again
[07:54] <dorto> charle97, no, not always
[07:54] <Kaiyang> Is port forwarding the same as port mapping?
[07:54] <Mantice> I need help with grub any one ?
[07:54] <dorto> charle97, but a USB hard disk is attached while the system boots
[07:54] <wastrel> sin grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <charle97> dorto, maybe you should remove that before you boot
[07:54] <Fulcrum> i thought it'd be larger
[07:55] <Jordan_U> khalsa: what is the output of: glxinfo | grep direct ?
[07:55] <dorto> charle97, ok, will try removing all removable devices and try to boot ubuntu like that
[07:55] <grekkos> Flannel: do you know off-hand how to fix that XGL bug?
[07:55] <sin> should i uncomment all of them
[07:55] <Jordan_U> khalsa: If yes, your graphics are set up.
[07:55] <Commander-Crowe> hey um...I want to get a wireless card...any recommandations?
[07:55] <Fulcrum> anyone have any idea why server is smaller?
[07:55] <sin> because it doesnt need X etc
[07:55] <|thunder> Fulcrum; no X11
[07:55] <Lathiat> Fulcrum: because it doesnt have as many packages on it
[07:56] <Fulcrum> alrighty, k thanx
[07:56] <charle97> no gnome
[07:56] <Lathiat> Fulcrum: its no real difference to the 'alternate' cd functionally, but it just includies a bunch of server-related packages on the cd
[07:56] <wastrel> i like me some alternate
[07:56] <Commander-Crowe> I want to get a wireless card...any recommandations?
[07:56] <wastrel> why boot x just to run an installer?
[07:56] <Flannel> grekkos: nope.  I have no GUI, thus no XGL.  I just know it's an XGL thing.  they should be able to help you.
[07:56] <Mantice> Any one know how to configure grub with another drive ????????????
[07:57] <khalsa> Jordan_U: glxinfo: http://pastebin.ca/244835
[07:57] <grekkos> Flannel: ok thanks anyway ;)
[07:57] <|thunder> Commander-Crowe; dont repeat. I have a linksys wmp54G ver4. works great live even
[07:57] <sin> wastrel, should i just uncomment everything with universe in the line ?
[07:57] <Mantice> This is taking to long. I dont want to have to change my boot order in the bios every time just cos I cant get grub working.
[07:57] <wastrel> sin:  back up the working copy first
[07:57] <Jordan_U> khalsa: Then your graphics aren't set up completely ( no direct rendering / 3D support )
[07:58] <sin> kk
[07:58] <dorto> Commander-Crowe, linksys wusb54g also works with ndiswrapper but you better check it out to be sure
[07:58] <sin> but is that what i want to do
[07:58] <sin> uncomment all of those, or everything in the file?
[07:58] <khalsa> Jordan_U: ah, ok. "grep direct" just sit's there
[07:58] <wastrel> sin:  if you want multiverse you can uncommend those too.
[07:58] <khalsa> Jordan_U: so is there a guide or instructions on how to go about doing that (once i've re-installed it seems)
[07:58] <Mantice> how do I make grub auto configure my windows drive...... ?
[07:58] <wastrel> but yes, uncommend universe , i guess xubuntu-desktop has some dependencies in universe.
[07:59] <Jordan_U> khalsa: That is because it wasn't supposed to be run seperately, it's OK to quit it though :)
[07:59] <Flannel> wastrel: that doesn't make any sense.  Whcih version of ubuntu? sin?
[07:59] <sin> Edgy
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Mantice: sudo update-grub ( back up your grub.conf first )
[07:59] <sin> im not sure the diff from multi and uni... i need to read up again, been a while since i read the docs haha
[08:00] <khalsa> Jordan_U: oh: here is the output when run properly: direct rendering: No
[08:00] <khalsa> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:00] <wastrel> !universe
[08:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:00] <Jordan_U> !fglrx | khalsa
[08:00] <ubotu> khalsa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:00] <sin> just not sure which i need to install XFCE
[08:00] <sin> i guess universe only right
[08:00] <sin> so just uncomment every line with universe in it ?
[08:00] <baxter_kylie> What's the official name of the screen with the splash image and statusbar during boot?
[08:01] <Majic> I don't really like Xfce.  GNOME is way better.
[08:01] <Majic> XFCE just runs faster and more efficiently.
[08:01] <Jordan_U> If this produces output you have an ATI card: lspci | grep radeon
[08:01] <wastrel> sin:  yes
[08:01] <sin> ok sweet... i wanna try Beryl/XGl on xfce :-P
[08:01] <wastrel> Jordan_U:  grep -i
[08:01] <khalsa> ubotu: thank you, seems like I have an Nvidia
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you, seems like I have an Nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <wastrel> khalsa:  not necessarily
[08:02] <grekkos> lol
[08:02] <khalsa> doh
[08:02] <Jordan_U> wastrel: Thanks, forgot :)
[08:02] <Majic> heh
[08:02] <WWade> i saw some xgl video shit on youtube and i was wondering if anyone could tell me the system requirements to run that xgl shit good
[08:02] <khalsa> outsmarted by the bot
[08:02] <wastrel> khalsa:  lspci |grep VGA
[08:02] <Jordan_U> If this produces output you have an ATI card: lspci | grep -i radeon
[08:02] <khalsa> wastrel: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[08:02] <baxter_kylie> Majic: Xubuntu has its own benefits beyond speed and efficiency. I happen to like it's meta packages. Ubuntu always felt cumbersome with a lot of software I never used.
[08:02] <Flannel> WWade: #ubuntu-xgl, and watch your language please.
[08:03] <wastrel> nvidia :]
[08:03] <WWade> ok thanks.. sorry about the language
[08:03] <khalsa> wastrel: that's a good thing I hope?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> khalsa: Ok, follow the nvidia instructions.
[08:03] <Majic> I am running Xubuntu right now.  I didn't like Xfce because you couldn't select multiple files on the desktop by clicking and dragging over them.  I installed GNOME on Xubuntu and switched sessions.
[08:03] <Salsa-Shark> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[08:03] <Jordan_U> khalsa: Yes, nvidia has very good linux support
[08:03] <wastrel> khalsa:  i dunno, i have ATI :]
[08:03] <sin> wtf guys... i uncommended the universe lines and did sudo apt-get update and then did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and i get....
[08:03] <Majic> Feels more like home, now. :p
[08:03] <khalsa> Jordan_U: ok will-do. I will re-install, then get nvidia drivers running
[08:03] <sin> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:04] <wastrel> hm
[08:04] <wastrel> you may have a broken package somewhere causing trouble
[08:04] <Majic> Also, the network manager and battery applet work way better in GNOME.
[08:04] <Jordan_U> sin: Try 'apt-get -f install'
[08:04] <khalsa> Also: I was very happy to see that my pci wireless card worked as soon as I put it in the computer
[08:04] <fnf> Hi, I'm installing the nvidia binary blob, it said I didn't have the libc package so the installation failed, do you have any suggestion for that ?. What "libc" package should I install ?.
[08:04] <sin> sudo apt-get -f install xubuntu-desktop ?
[08:04] <khalsa> just had to install "network manager" to get WPA and all was good.
[08:04] <sin> or just sudo apt-get -f install
[08:04] <khalsa> Thanks for your help guys!
[08:04] <Jordan_U> sin: sudo apt-get -f install ( no xubuntu-desktop 0
[08:05] <sin> kk
[08:05] <sin> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[08:05] <sin>   cedega
[08:05] <sin> haha
[08:05] <Majic> heh
[08:06] <what_if> how do I enable Proxy ARP automatically on boot ??
[08:06] <JonBoon> ok, i did something stupid and i dont know how to fix it. i accidentally deleted the trash option in workspace 4 and i dont know how to get it back :(
[08:06] <Mantice> That did not work my grub did not boot windows.
[08:06] <michaels_> what package gives me rar support?
[08:07] <ircm0nkey> can anyone give me their opinion on whether i should install a duel boot for windows and ubuntu or just say screw everything in windows and just install ubuntu by itself?
[08:07] <Jordan_U> !rar
[08:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:07] <dfgas_> edgy sucks, it wants me to remove ubuntu-desktop just to install vmwareplayer
[08:07] <dfgas_> is there a way around this
[08:07] <wastrel> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, not required
[08:07] <Flannel> dfgas_: "ubuntu-desktop" is just a meta package.  vmwareplayer must conflict with something in ubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <what_if> michaels_: rar & unrar
[08:07] <Mantice> I didn't think it would take hours just to configure grub.
[08:07] <SilentDis> hello :)
[08:07] <JonBoon> ircm0nkey,  unless you use a few windows only apps daily, just go with ubuntu
[08:07] <dfgas_> Flannel, meta package?
[08:08] <Flannel> !metapackage | dfgas_
[08:08] <ubotu> dfgas_: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[08:08] <wastrel> JonBoon:  you mean the trash can applet on the gnome panel?
[08:08] <JonBoon> yes wastrel
[08:08] <Mantice> Can any one help me with grub ????
[08:08] <dfgas_> hmmm
[08:08] <ircm0nkey> i can live without windows
[08:09] <dfgas_> Flannel, there was other things too it wanted to remove, checking now
[08:09] <wastrel> JonBoon:  you can add it back like you'd add any applet to your panel - right-click the panel and choose "add to panel"
[08:09] <Mantice> I need to boot windows :( but I cant because grub = requires configuring and I dont know how to
[08:09] <dfgas_> Flannel, gaim, and libdbus
[08:09] <Flannel> dfgas_: chances are it conflicted with one thing, which is required for ubuntu-desktop, which means when that thing goes, you don't have the full requirements for u-d, which means it needs ot be removed
[08:09] <Mantice> Is their any way I can find more info about my SATA drives and what HD they are called.
[08:09] <dfgas_> Flannel, it didn't do this in dapper
[08:10] <JonBoon> ooohh so what folder do i find the trashcan in?
[08:10] <Flannel> dfgas_: vmwareplayer isn't in the repositories, so... I have no idea.
[08:10] <SilentDis> Mantice:  while I probably won't be much assistance, a description of the particular problem would probably lead to more offers of assistance :)
[08:10] <dfgas_> Flannel, vmwareplayer is
[08:10] <grekkos> is Mplayer still available on repos?
[08:10] <SilentDis> JonBoon: ~/.trash
[08:11] <grekkos> mabye i'm downloading the wrong package but it won't let me get it
[08:11] <Flannel> dfgas_: not in any official repositories
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !info vmwareplayer
[08:11] <grekkos> wait let me try using the gui
[08:11] <ubotu> Package vmwareplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[08:11] <wastrel> SilentDis:  it's .Trash fyi :]   at least in gnome
[08:11] <Mantice> I have a IDE Hard drive this boots Ubuntu - I have 2 SATA Hard drives one of the sata hard drives boots windows while the other is storage, I want to boot the SATA drive that has windows allready installed on it.
[08:11] <wastrel> JonBoon:  type "trash" in the search thingy
[08:12] <JonBoon> i was about to do that :/
[08:12] <dfgas_> Flannel, i think i am just gonna go back to dapper
[08:12] <wastrel> :]
[08:12] <wwweasel> I am trying to change the default app for playing audio cds. I changed it under the auto play, but when I double click on the icon on the desktop it still opens sound juicer. How do i change that association?
[08:12] <JonBoon> sorry im new to linux, just fed up with windows
[08:12] <SilentDis> wastrel: thank you :)  yet again, my attention is devided :P
[08:12] <dfgas_> Flannel, i seem to have a problem in edgy where my computer shuts off in the middle of the night, lol
[08:12] <Mantice> Right now I'm in the menu.1st file and I'm editing it but I don't know what to change the values to :(
[08:12] <Jordan_U> dfgas_: Are you using a repository from Dapper for vmwareplayer?
[08:13] <dfgas_> Jordan_U, not sure
[08:13] <felixjet> hi
[08:13] <dfgas_> i just installed and went
[08:13] <dfgas_> Jordan_U, sorry upgraded
[08:13] <Flannel> dfgas_: pastebin your sources.list please
[08:13] <Jordan_U> dfgas_: Can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <wastrel> Mantice:  you have multiple drives? or multiple partitions?
[08:13] <felixjet> anyone know a password file protectior ?
[08:13] <Mantice> Multiple drives I have 3.
[08:13] <felixjet> i mean, put passwords to files
[08:14] <Healot> you can always use GnuPG or chmod, felixjet
[08:14] <grodius> Can anyone help me? I just upgraded to Edgy and now I cant start X, im getting a fatal server error: no screens found
[08:14] <dfgas_> !pastebin
[08:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:14] <wastrel> grodius:  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:14] <Mantice> wastrel: one IDE which ubuntu boots off and I have 2 other "sata" hdd's
[08:14] <felixjet> Healot: and one graphical?
[08:14] <skelter> can anyone help me trouble shoot some (lack of) sound issues? edgy 64bit
[08:14] <Jordan_U> grodius: Are you the guy on a PPC machine from before?
[08:14] <dfgas_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30814/
[08:15] <wwweasel> Could someone help? I
[08:15] <Healot> felixjet: GnuPG has a GNOME UI :)
[08:15] <grodius> Jordan_U: PPC? Not that im aware of, but I was asking earlier... whats PPC?
[08:15] <wwweasel> I'd like to change the association when I double click an audio cd on my desktop. I don't want it to open sound-juicer
[08:15] <wastrel> Mantice:  i dunno from sata
[08:15] <Healot> !find gnupg
[08:15] <ubotu> Found: gnupg, gnupg-doc, python-gnupginterface, gnupg-agent, gnupg2 (and 3 others)
[08:15] <Jordan_U> grodius: PowerPC, mac, it must have been somebody else I am remembering.
[08:16] <dfgas_> Flannel, Jordan_U, you guys get that?
[08:16] <Mantice> wastrel: It use to work on the old distro's but now it dont :(
[08:16] <grodius> Jordan_U: no, not me.   I have no idea where vmwareplayer came from.  ah.  It's vmware-player, but I still don't see where it would conflict.
[08:17] <Mantice> wastrel: I have them mounted in linux how do I get their names ?
[08:17] <wastrel> Mantice:  df
[08:17] <Jordan_U> grodius: possibly, what kind of card do you have?
[08:17] <grodius> Jordan_U: an intel card
[08:18] <grodius> Jordan_U: IT says the drivers cant be found
[08:18] <wwweasel> I'd like to change the association when I double click an audio cd on my desktop. I don't want it to open sound-juicer. Any ideas please?
[08:18] <Flannel> wwweasel: right click the icon, there's an option
[08:18] <dfgas_> anyone use fliterproxy?
[08:19] <dfgas_> filterproxy
[08:19] <wwweasel> Flannel: If there is, I am blind. I see "Open", and I have explored all through "Properties"
[08:19] <Mantice> /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1
[08:19] <Mantice> wastrel: /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1
[08:19] <wastrel> wwweasel:  properties > open with  at least in my gnome... :]
[08:20] <wastrel> Mantice:  ok halfway there
[08:20] <wwweasel> wastrel: I am aware of that for files. Try that with a CD. Not there
[08:20] <grodius> Does anyone know of a way to reinstall Edgy
[08:20] <wastrel> ah a CD
[08:20] <Mantice> wastrel: by the way my hard drive is on sda1
[08:20] <grodius> I dont want to wipe my harddrive but I want to reinstall Edgy without the CD
[08:20] <wastrel> i dunno  that might be the alternatives system.
[08:20] <Majic> You don't have to wipe your drive to reinstall...
[08:21] <Flannel> wwweasel: check the "preffered application" dialog, or whatever it's currently called
[08:21] <wastrel> Mantice:  well i don't play around with grub too much so I always forget how to do the drive numbers.
[08:21] <wastrel> sec.
[08:21] <Flannel> wwweasel: it just starts at 0 instead of 1 (or 0 instead of a)
[08:21] <grodius> Majic: How bout tell me HOW instead of telling me something I already know
[08:22] <wwweasel> Flannel: It's not in preferred application
[08:22] <Majic> I'd rather not, you seem kind of forceful. :p
[08:22] <wwweasel> Flannel; I don't get the thing about 0s, 1s and a's
[08:22] <Majic> *I know it's possible, but I don't know exactly how.*
[08:22] <Mantice> wastrel I changed my root to rootnoverify lets see if that helps.
[08:22] <Flannel> wwweasel: then I have no idea.
[08:23] <Mantice> wastrel: but my IDE HD is hd0
[08:23] <grodius> 'you dont have to wipe your harddrive to install linux...' Ok- I never said that, but thanks for the help
[08:23] <Flannel> wwweasel: hda1, with a and 1 being the important things.  the former (letter) gives you the location (primary IDE master, slave, seconary master, slave are a b c d etc).  then the number (1+) is the partition number.  In grub, all numbering starts at 0.  so, hda1 would be (hd0,0) hdb3 would be hd1,2, etc.
[08:24] <wweaselBRB> !guidelines
[08:24] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:24] <wastrel> Mantice:  ah true, well i think you need to ask google :]   i just have IDE.  ...  or experiment, you'll reboot a lot but as long as you've got your linux booting it's easy to fix...
[08:24] <Mantice> brb
[08:24] <wastrel> Flannel:  what about sda1 , sdb1
[08:25] <grodius> Is there anyone who can help me, im trying to re install linux without a disk.
[08:25] <Majic> grodius:  Sorry for telling you that it's possible and not helping.  It's just, I know that it's possible but I don't know exactly help.  Best of luck with your problem.
[08:25] <Majic> ..exactly how to do it.*
[08:25] <grodius> Majic: ok thanks then
[08:27] <nol13> i heard fedora core is better than ubuntu, is this true?
[08:27] <Flannel> wastrel: they all get mushed together.  hd0 could be the IDE or the SATA, depending on how your BIOS sees them (in order that theyre listed in BIOS)
[08:27] <BeanBag> what is the purpose of the chroot and fakeroot command?
[08:28] <wastrel> nol13:  we like all linux.  fedora, ubuntu, slackware, etc.  big happy family <3
[08:28] <progek> Hello, has anyone here ever used tomcat? I don't have a problem setting this up, just need advice.
[08:28] <charle97> wastrel, including suse?
[08:28] <Healot> BeanBag: to jail a program into a different run-time library i.e running 32-bit programs libraries in a 64-bit environment
[08:28] <dorto> nol13, depends on what one is looking in a distribution
[08:29] <wastrel> charle97:  never tried suse myself.
[08:29] <dorto> BeanBag: chroot allows to change to a different installation and work as if you have booted into that installation
[08:29] <Healot> I hate German distroes :)
[08:29] <nol13> vastrel: cool, what about BSD though?
[08:30] <dorto> suse 10.1 was too buggy, they released a 'remastered' version recently to fix it up
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Healot: Warum?
[08:30] <dorto> BSD ship a bit old software, but they are rock-solid
[08:30] <dorto> installation is not trivial either
[08:31] <dorto> progek, what advice do you want regarding tomcat?
[08:31] <Fulcrum> how can i setup my 3 port router to work as a switch?
[08:31] <Healot> Jordan_U: SuSE << German :)
[08:31] <srf21c> if any of you are using Gaim to connect to this IRC channel, and you want to find a way to suppress all the enter/leave room messages, install the gaim-extendedprefs plugin There's an option in there to disable these annoying "noise" messages.
[08:31] <Fulcrum> i was thinking just use in port one and out port 2
[08:31] <Fulcrum> but thats not working
[08:31] <nol13> dorto: so is there really any difference really other than package management and defaults and stuff? does redhat really add anything into RHEL other than support or what?
[08:31] <eternalswd> how can I mount one folder to another location?
[08:32] <srf21c> I was asking how to do this this earlier and nobody was able to help.  :(
[08:32] <progek> dorto: Thanks, well for a while I have been using apache for static pages but I am now getting into tomcat utilizing java servlets/JavaServer pages and was wondering If I could dump apache and use tomcat as also my http server but with servlets as well?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Good night everybody.
[08:32] <Healot> nol13: some proprietary apps, yes
[08:33] <progek> basically, can I use tomcat like a web server too?
[08:33] <dorto> nol13, I see fedora's biggest limitation to be its package manager
[08:33] <progek> nol13: I would agree since i tried FC6 for a few weeks
[08:33] <dorto> you get a big, monolithic installation with a 6CD or 2DVD disk set and then the package manager keeps crashing the system if you try to install additional stuff
[08:34] <dorto> it might take another year or two for yum to get stabilised
[08:34] <SilentDis> all distros are good for someone.  look at slackware.  there's gotta be 2... 3 users or so of that!  *giggle*
[08:34] <BeanBag> is there anyone here form cape town in south africa?
[08:34] <neil__> dorto: oh, it's improved then :)
[08:34] <wastrel> that's always been redhat's weakness ( compared to debian-based distros)
[08:34] <grekkos> SilentDis: most linux users I know are on Slack ;)
[08:34] <wastrel> it's great if you only need to install one or 2 extra things.
[08:34] <pc3> das
[08:34] <pc3> das
[08:34] <SilentDis> grekkos: i know, that was the joke ;)
[08:34] <dorto> progek, only someone with good knowledge of both Apache and Tomcat can answer that I guess
[08:34] <grekkos> heheh
[08:35] <wastrel> but for desktop use, installing lots of extra software... forget about it
[08:35] <progek> ok thanks dorto
[08:35] <dorto> I never used tomcat for static web hosting
[08:35] <grekkos> i'm going to bed
[08:35] <grekkos> I'm pretty satisfied with Edgy right now
[08:35] <Fulcrum> so um, isn't there a way to setup a router as a switch?  I 4 Got
[08:35] <nol13> so these rethat proprietary apps, they cant get incorperated into other dists or other dists just dont want to? centOS has them though right?
[08:36] <dorto> CentOS takes the sources from RHEL repository if am not wrong
[08:36] <Flannel> progek: tomcat sits ontop of apache, to run JSP stuff, it's equivalent to installing PHP, or whatever else.
[08:36] <dorto> fedora is different
[08:36] <SilentDis> grekkos: g'night.  don't let the bed bugs maul you :)
[08:36] <dorto> but tomcat can run on its own too, and serve HTML files
[08:37] <neil__> dorto: so can php ;)
[08:37] <progek> Flannel: Thanks, but I mean, right now I have a port open for apache http server and also a port open for tomcat (8080) I use apache http for static pages and I have been creating servlets in tomcat. I notice that in apache you place the index.html in /var/www, but what about tomcat?
 look at slackware.  there's gotta be 2... 3 users or so of that! <-- LOL! I am one of them ;)
[08:37] <neil__> SilentDis: don't be. anjuta is totally hosed, that's all ;)
[08:38] <Mantice> Any one grub expert ?
[08:38] <kholerabbit> how do I mount partitions on the edgy livecd? there is no "disks" item in the menu..
[08:38] <Mantice> Or is their somthing better than grub ?
[08:38] <SilentDis> i don't think my ximeta netdisk works under edgy yet.  barely got it working under dapper, had to compile it locally, as i'm running the k7 core.
[08:38] <Healot> Mantice: developer perhaps
[08:38] <Flannel> progek: you don't need to have a port open for tomcat, it can interface via apache.  Of course, you cna also run it on it's own
[08:38] <dorto> neil__, any application server can host HTML pages too, just slower
[08:38] <SilentDis> lol neil
[08:39] <Mantice> Every one seams to hate configuring grub
[08:39] <progek> Flannel: I was thinking of running it on its own, as a static web server and servlet/JSP container.. so this is possible?
[08:39] <tmpvar> hrm, xgl..
[08:39] <Flannel> progek: tomcat will require your 'static' html pages to be compiled just like any other.  you'll just have a file with a bunch of printish commands
[08:39] <Healot> Mantice: what problem you encounter whike configuring GRUB>?
[08:39] <Mantice> My hard drive dont boot.
[08:39] <progek> Mantice: run live cd, mount hd and reinstall grub
[08:40] <Mantice> I dont have cd.
[08:40] <dorto> progek, it is possible, but people don't recommend such a configuration for production use
[08:40] <kholerabbit> anybody know how I can mount an ntfs partition on edgy livecd?
[08:40] <Flannel> Mantice: how did you install ubuntu?
[08:40] <progek> I see, thanks dorto
[08:40] <progek> I will just use apache with tomcat then
[08:40] <Mantice> I had a cd then.
[08:40] <dorto> progek, for development purposes it should be fine
[08:40] <progek> Mantice, can you download the iso and burn it?
[08:40] <Mantice> Ive been upgrading over the years
[08:41] <nol13> so what are peoples feelings on the best office suit for linux?
[08:41] <Flannel> nol13: that'd be a perfect question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <Mantice> progek: Right now New Zealand is having a broadband crisis. some of us cant download faster than 3 kb's on our broadband lines.
[08:41] <dorto> Mantice, if you can't download and burn a live cd, wait for one of the IT magazines to ship a free GNU/Linux live cd. It's flavour of the season these days ;)
[08:41] <nol13> fine...
[08:42] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  you know, i've never tried that.  should be sudo mount /dev/hdxx /media/location -t ntfs
[08:42] <Flannel> Mantice: you can also grab a (smaller) super grub disk.
[08:42] <user07lux><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:42] <progek> Mantice: or you can use ubuntus shipit for dapper :D but you may want to get grub fixed sometime sooner
[08:42] <Mantice> I dont want to download another cd image.
[08:43] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: Thanks, I'll try. The Dapper livecd just had a System>Administration>Disks app, where you just clicked "mount" but I can't seem to find that..
[08:43] <Mantice> I have dapper disks but I have edgy.
[08:43] <progek> you can still use the live cd though
[08:43] <progek> then open a terminal and mount the hd
[08:43] <Mantice> and I dont really want to reinstall my os just for grub.
[08:43] <progek> even though it's dapper
[08:43] <Flannel> Mantice: you don't need to reinstall the entire OS
[08:43] <progek> you don't have to reinstall the os, just grub
[08:43] <Flannel> !grub | Mantice
[08:43] <ubotu> Mantice: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:43] <Flannel> the first link there
[08:44] <Mantice> Should I explain my problem first ?
[08:44] <progek> there is a how to on the ubuntu forums for reparing grub with the live cd
[08:44] <SilentDis> kholerabbit: nt.  not sure what's on/not on the edgy disk, just got mine in the mail... VERY wary to put it in and try to upgrade :P
[08:44] <Flannel> progek: there's a howto on that page, probably better htan the forums one.
[08:44] <Flannel> Mantice: sure.
[08:44] <dorto> Mantice, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:45] <progek> oops, didn't see that message you posted
[08:45] <Mantice> I have IDE HD = Ubuntu SATA1 = Windows boot drive NTFS = SATA2 = NTFS storage
[08:45] <harmental> hey everybody...
[08:45] <Mantice> I want to boot the windows drive.
[08:45] <harmental> what is the correct ligne for the fstab when mounting a fat32 disk (iocharset, nls and codepage options)
[08:45] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: haha, yeah My monitor stopped working a while ago so I am just using a friends laptop, just using the livecd of edgy
[08:45] <Flannel> Mantice: that would be either hd0,0 or hd1,0.  Whichever isn't your ubuntu one (it depends on how your BIOS reads the drives)
[08:46] <kholerabbit> whats the terminal command for creating a foldeR?
[08:46] <Flannel> kholerabbit: mkdir
[08:46] <kholerabbit> cheers
[08:46] <Mantice> Grub says windows is in HD1 but when I select it it says error code 23 24
[08:46] <midgetg0at> Wine error after nVidia update: Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8762, but this client has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[08:46] <Mantice> 23 or 24.
[08:46] <midgetg0at> Anyone know the fix? It crashes Steam.
[08:46] <SilentDis> question - is it even possible to perform an upgrade dapper > edgy with the 6.10 desktop cd?
[08:46] <Flannel> Mantice: pastebin your boot.lst please (/etc/grub/boot.lst)
[08:46] <progek> SilentDis: you can upgrade without a cd from dapper
[08:46] <SilentDis> i'm stuck on dialup, i live in the boonies, so large downloads scare me :P
[08:47] <progek> oh I see
[08:47] <Mantice> Sure.,
[08:47] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: Not as far as I know, you need an alternative cd, fast internet, or the dvd which I think has all the cd put on one (Desktop, Server, alternative...)
[08:47] <midgetg0at> No one know wine issues?
[08:47] <Flannel> kholerabbit: there is no "alternate" installation, just desktop or the guiless server.  And yes, the alternate has that, and it also is a repository with additional packages.
[08:48] <xukun> hi all. If I want to watch movie trailers like the one in apple.com/trailers then I see a window displaying the message "no video" anyone has an idea?
[08:48] <xukun> I,m using firefox
[08:48] <SilentDis> kholerabbit: thanks.   I don't mind paying a few bucks for a CD to be shipped to me, especially if a bit goes back to the project :)
[08:48] <dorto> xukun: you might need flash 9 beta for linux package, google for it
[08:48] <Mantice> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30815/
[08:48] <ruxpin> how can I install 'php4-cups' - apt-get refuses
[08:49] <xukun> dorto, thanks I will
[08:49] <Mantice> Flannel: I changed root to rootnoverify and it still dident work.
[08:49] <nol13> flash 9 has been having a few hiccups for me, sometimes after a pause it wont play anymore and sound is hit or miss(alsa prob?)
[08:49] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: do you know a command for listing the available drives I can mount?
[08:50] <cge> Why can't I join #ubuntu+1?
[08:50] <SilentDis> lol.  xm radio Lucy on... their bumper:  "lucy, alternative rock from when MTV played videos... to when it taught your teenage daughter to be a slut. ROFL
[08:50] <Flannel> cge: because it doesn't exist at the moment
[08:50] <lakupuu> evo
[08:50] <cge> Flannel: Err, I'm running it right now?
[08:50] <Flannel> cge: feisty?
[08:50] <cge> Flannel: yes
[08:51] <Flannel> cge: the channel still redirects people to #ubuntu, because edgy was just released.  No idea when the channel will be opened again.
[08:51] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  i BELIEVE ubuntu is smart enough to discard missing hds in the /dev folder.  so a quick ls /dev/hd* should be sufficient
[08:51] <cge> Flannel: Ok, thanks. I just wanted to know if anyone knew how fontconfig chooses its aliases
[08:52] <BHSPitLappy> any tips for when sound stops working?
[08:52] <BHSPitLappy> tried killing artsd and esd.
[08:52] <BHSPitLappy> it's bad enough where in Banshee, a song doesn't even progress.
[08:53] <Mantice> Flannel: do you know whats wrong ?
[08:53] <Flannel> Mantice: nope.  Everything looks reasonable.  Which error do you get?
[08:53] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: that problem is that there is hda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda4, hda5, hda6, hdb... and there should only be 2 partitions..
[08:54] <Mantice> error code 23 / 24 im not to sure it said somthing about a number.
[08:54] <Flannel> Mantice: well, which is it?  That's an important thing ;).  reboot, try it, write down the error, etc
[08:55] <Mantice> 23 : Error while parsing number This error is returned if GRUB was expecting to read a number and encountered bad data.
[08:55] <zidoen> i have a "bouce keys problem" similar to the one in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25574 - except i don't have a toshiba but a Dell.. Anybody know what might fix the problem there, since there's no "psmouse" mod in /etc/modules
[08:56] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  it's not discarding them then.  had that same thing on my DSL box (crappy little laptop).  let me poke a bit...
[08:56] <blueone> how can i access a windows share from bash? i can access it from from the UI. (thanks)
[08:56] <Mantice> Flannel: its 23.
[08:57] <Flannel> Mantice: ah, those map lines... where you have (hd) make that (hd0)
[08:57] <loutrine> During the installation of Samba 3.0.22 on Ubuntu Edgy Eft, I received this output http://pastebin.com/821005 is that normal?
[08:57] <Mantice> Flannel: both of them ?
[08:57] <loutrine> (I asked on samba but It's very quiet atm...)
[08:58] <kholerabbit> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/location -t ntfs
[08:58] <kholerabbit> mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:58] <kholerabbit> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/location busy
[08:58] <kholerabbit> woops...
[08:58] <Flannel> Mantice: yeah, you're swapping hd1 and hd0, because windows likes to think it's always on the first hd
[08:58] <Mantice> Flannel: I see what about rootnoverify ? should I change that back to root ?
[08:58] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  you need to specify the partition.  mount /dev/hdb1 /media/location
[08:59] <kholerabbit> if I add the "1" I get: mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[09:00] <Flannel> Mantice: yeah, switch tta back
[09:00] <SilentDis> blueone: if you have the full samba package installed, you should have a command called smbmount, i believe
[09:00] <Mantice> Flannel: here it goes :)
[09:01] <SilentDis> blueone:  if you're missing samba.... sudo apt-get install samba.  then you should have everything you need to mount that share :)
[09:02] <neil__> SilentDis: is smbmount in samba or something like smbutils/smbtools?
[09:04] <neil__> SilentDis: it's in package smbfs
[09:04] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: haha,  sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/location -t ntfs... that worked, thanks!
[09:04] <SilentDis> neil__: it's part of the 'complete' samba package.  ubuntu ships with the samba-common, you have to apt-get the rest
[09:05] <SilentDis> neil__:  ahh.  i knew I did it, just couldn't remember what i grabbed exactly.  thank you :)
[09:06] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  well, glad it worked... I have to ask, is this an old compaq computer or something?  lol
[09:06] <neil__> blueone: you need package smbfs for smbmount
[09:06] <kholerabbit> SilentDis:  new asus :) haha
[09:07] <kholerabbit> brand new
[09:07] <neil__> SilentDis: yes. samba does all its work without needing to mount smb filesystems
[09:07] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  I ask that because i've seen some REALLY funky hd configs on those old machines, with complete win3.1 installs that act as their BIOS control and the like :P
[09:07] <kholerabbit> hehe
[09:07] <june_> hi
[09:08] <ddifof> hello
[09:08] <june_> hi ddi fof
[09:08] <ddifof> Netbackup server 6 on ubuntu anyone?
[09:08] <kholerabbit>  SilentDis: at the moment it is only readable by nautilus running under root, any idea how I can change the permission so the normal user can read it?
[09:09] <Schalken> How come the text in the Terminal is blurred?
[09:09] <SilentDis> neil__: yes, i just remember wanting to actually mount one, grabbing samba and possibly some other tools, and using smbmount.  that must've been the 'other stuff' i grabbed lol
[09:09] <Schalken> :(
[09:10] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: that is I get this error when I try change the permissions via the gui: "Couldn't change the permissions of "location" because it is on a read-only disk"
[09:10] <midgetg0at> I HATE THAT ERROR - i get that all teh time kholerabbit :)
[09:10] <kholerabbit> midgetg0at: heheh
[09:10] <midgetg0at> but i messed up my partition table file - whatever that's called.
[09:10] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  yes, when you mount, use... aargh... -o umask=007... i think?  someone please help me on this one.
[09:10] <kholerabbit> I hope I don't mess up anything it isn't my computer :(
[09:11] <midgetg0at> k, well, dont delete that file then :)
[09:11] <kholerabbit> midgetg0at: I just want to be able too read the files with the normal user..
[09:11] <midgetg0at> yea, i'm not the guy to give advice, just throught i'd chime in...i hate read only disks!
[09:12] <Schalken> in fact, why is the text in both the Terminal AND Epiphany blurred?
[09:12] <SilentDis> kholerabbit: yes, that's normal, the disk is mounted for root and root alone.  you have to provide the option during mount to allow other users
[09:12] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  ntfs disk on /dev/hda5, right?
[09:12] <kholerabbit> yup
[09:12] <RVman> whazzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
[09:13] <lakupuu> 8)
[09:13] <serici> whazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:13] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/location -t ntfs -o=umask=007
[09:14] <RVman> hey, guys, im new to ubuntu :)
[09:14] <kholerabbit> SilentDis:  thanks...
[09:14] <RVman> so whats so good about this... "ubuntu" everyone's talking about :D?
[09:14] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: I need to unmount it first appereantly
[09:14] <blueone> SilentDis & neil__: I got smbmout. i will try get it working. thanks for your help :-)
[09:15] <SilentDis> kholerabbit: yes.  umount /media/location, then the command noted above
[09:15] <kholerabbit> cheers
[09:15] <SilentDis> blueone:  no troubles, i apologize for being so foggy headed and still trying to help people lol
[09:16] <kholerabbit> SilentDis:  get this error: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,"
[09:16] <inferiorpotassiu> what's this mean?
[09:16] <inferiorpotassiu> WARNING: kernel is not very fresh, upgrade is recommended.
[09:16] <inferiorpotassiu> i ahve the latest kerenl
[09:16] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  aargh.  i can not for the life of me remember the proper option
[09:16] <kholerabbit> OK, nevermind thanks :)
[09:17] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  one last try for me...
[09:17] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  i'm pulling this from my /etc/fstab, where I have an NTFS drive mounted, so it SHOULD work just fine lol
[09:17] <midgetg0at> ah yes, thats the file i deleted :)
[09:18] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: haha ok lets try
[09:18] <inferiorpotassiu> what would this mean? i need new kernel, what?
[09:19] <Fulcrum> when i try to boot ubuntu 6.10 server on a G3 400MHZ PPC i get a white screen scrolling black text:  default CATCH!  code=300 at bla bla
[09:19] <Fulcrum> whats that mean?
[09:19] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  sudo mount /dev/hdxx /media/location -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:20] <kholerabbit> try in a sec, the livecd is having problems
[09:21] <KenSentMe> I have two soundcards in my system. How can i make sure that in default ubuntu always uses one, except when i choose a program to use the other soundcard. Where do i do these things?
[09:21] <inferiorpotassiu> hello
[09:22] <cE_MaNIeZ_BuTuH> ALOOOOOO
[09:22] <leafw_> how can one define the icons for the different file types? How can one associate files to be opened with certain applications?
[09:23] <midgetg0at> bah, the last nvidia update really screwed up my system.
[09:23] <cooL_sby> semarang
[09:23] <midgetg0at> wine throws errors, mplayer complains (crashes)....
[09:23] <Flannel> leafw_: right click the file, go to properties, there's an "open with" thing
[09:24] <leafw_> Flannel: yes, but the binding is not general
[09:24] <leafw_> Flannel : for all files of type X, open with app Y.
[09:24] <leafw_> that's what I want
[09:24] <leafw_> can't find such file association settings in nautilus
[09:24] <kholerabbit> SilentDis: thanks tones, that worked a wonder
[09:25] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  i am glad that worked lol
[09:25] <kholerabbit> hehe
[09:26] <magiczsc> hello
[09:26] <cE_MaNIeZ_BuTuH> Aiiiiiiii
[09:26] <cE_MaNIeZ_BuTuH> apa kabar dunia
[09:27] <cE_MaNIeZ_BuTuH> apa kabar dunia??????
[09:27] <cE_MaNIeZ_BuTuH> zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[09:28] <Seeker2599> does anyone know how i can see which port bit tornado is connected to?
[09:28] <ChaosFan> 0/wg 65
[09:28] <SilentDis> kholerabbit:  on a pure side note, it appears that someone finally figured out how to get a full read-write access from linux to NTFS file system.  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[09:29] <kholerabbit> silentdis, nice I'll have a look
[09:30] <jazzrocker> what does this mean: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[09:30] <jazzrocker>   binutils linux-kernel-headers libc6-dev cpp-4.0 cpp gcc-4.0 gcc libstdc++6-4.0-dev g++-4.0 g++ make
[09:30] <jazzrocker>   patch dpkg-dev build-essential
[09:30] <jazzrocker> i just want build-essential
[09:31] <jazzrocker> am i missing some GPG keys or something?
[09:34] <nomin> whenever I play flash videos the audio is out of sync with the videos.  Why is this?
[09:34] <crimsun> nomin: are you using 7.0.68 or 9 beta?
[09:34] <nomin> probably 7
[09:34] <crimsun> nomin: so remove flashplugin-nonfree and install 9 beta in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[09:34] <roland> hi people. is there some convention as to where to put JDBC driver jar files on ubuntu linux?
[09:35] <bradley> i installed the new nvidia beta drivers and my sound has stopped. how can i fix it?
[09:35] <RVman> hey all :) can someone please explain whats so good about this "ubuntu" thing? all of my friends are talking about it and saying how great it is, and i wanna understand some more about it...
[09:35] <nomin> crimsun:  do I download it straight from macromedia's site?
[09:35] <RVman> what is exactly that... "ubuntu" :D?
[09:35] <crimsun> nomin: sure
[09:35] <bradley> nomin, flash9?
[09:36] <ChaosFan> RVman: it's a linux distribution, aimed at being user-friendly
[09:36] <roland> RVman: it is free, and it '
[09:36] <roland> RVman: it is free, and it 'just works'
[09:36] <SilentDis> RVman:  ubuntu is a fairly easy to use linux distrobution.  unlike most of what I've seen from linux in the past, most everything 'just works'(TM) right away, with little to no configuration.
[09:36] <ChaosFan> RVman: lot of things are automated, it's debian-based
[09:36] <nomin> bradley, yes.  I'm tired of the audio and video being out of sync with flash videos.
[09:36] <bradley> nomin, there is a .deb that worked great for me in the forums. gdebi installs it.
[09:37] <roland> hi people. is there some convention as to where to put JDBC driver jar files on ubuntu linux?
[09:37] <RVman> hmm a lot of explenations
[09:37] <RVman> ermm
[09:37] <bradley> search flash beta, or flash 9 i forget.
[09:37] <RVman> i understood its an operating system... why is it better than windows?
[09:37] <MM2> which site had a lot of screenshots of different OSes?
[09:37] <ChaosFan> RVman: nothing is ``better'' than anything else
[09:38] <RVman> i dunno, everyone tells me windows sux and linux rulez
[09:38] <ChaosFan> RVman: choosing an operating system is a choice of personal taste and what you want to do with your machine
[09:38] <bradley> RvGaTe, it is better because it is non-proprietary
[09:38] <RVman> but i wanna understand WHY they tell me that :S
[09:38] <nomin> bradley, is this the one you used:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280313
[09:38] <roland> RVman: no simple answer to that try for yourself
[09:38] <SilentDis> RVman:  it's free and rock-stable, for starters.  really, i don't consider it 'better' than windows, simply 'better suited' for people than windows is ;)
[09:38] <bradley> RVman, , it is better because it is non-proprietary
[09:38] <ChaosFan> RVman: first of all, linux is free, non-proprietary, open source. everyone may use it and you don't need to pay for licenses
[09:38] <RVman> aha :)
[09:39] <RVman> ok i understand :D
[09:39] <ChaosFan> RVman: one drawback is that there are still many apps that you simply don't have when you use linux
[09:39] <RVman> as the matter of fact, im on ubuntu right now (my computer is so fucked up that i get blue sreens each time i try to install windows lol)
[09:39] <RVman> so i had no choice but to move to ubuntu
[09:39] <RVman> its like... a SIGH :D
[09:39] <RVman> sign*
[09:40] <ChaosFan> RVman: and under windows, the ``device driver thing'' is a lot easier
[09:40] <ChaosFan> because companies write and verify the windows-drivers themselves
[09:40] <RVman> yes i understood that there's something called "wine" that helps opening EXE files but still needs to go through a lot of development
[09:40] <bradley> nomin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990&highlight=flash+beta
[09:40] <SilentDis> RVman:  for a long time, linux used to be the 'esperanto' of the operating system world.   There are a lot of hits for flash 9.  Also that flash player looks pretty good.  Thanks for the link.
[09:42] <RVman> i have one more question to you all
[09:42] <midgetg0at> SilentDis: I think you mean, domain of the unproductive.
[09:42] <RVman> 1 sec
[09:42] <M_Fatih> i want to use my macosx applications in ubuntu, how can i do that? (macosx is working under a unix based kernel, so i think it is possible..)
[09:42] <SilentDis> RVman:  neither.  i know my way around 'puters, but I would NEVER consider myself at the top eschilon.  i simply feel i always have something new to learn, therefore it's an unacchevable goal for me :)
[09:43] <SilentDis> M_Faith:  probably won't be possible, as most mac apps are setup to run under the mac GUI.
[09:43] <RVman> hehe
[09:43] <RVman> errm
[09:43] <RVman> one sec, im having some trouble with terminal :)
[09:43] <RVman> ermm
[09:43] <ChaosFan> M_Fatih: the mac OS X kernel is a MACH kernel called darwin, but mac OS X itself is based on FreeBSD, you have to get the sources and try to compile it yourself in ubuntu
[09:44] <RVman> if i have more than 5 line i wanna post for a question from terminal, should i post them here or post them on a webpage and just put a link here?
[09:44] <M_Fatih> SilentDis, yes but it must be some emulatorsi like wine for windoz
[09:44] <RVman> lines*
[09:44] <M_Fatih> ChaosFan, is it possible?
[09:44] <ChaosFan> RVman: better pastebot it
[09:44] <ChaosFan> M_Fatih: that depends on the app, if you're lucky it works
[09:44] <RVman> ok one sec then, i will post it :)
[09:44] <M_Fatih> because macosx app needs carbon or aqua interface libraries, how can i compile width success
[09:45] <SilentDis> M_Fatih:  none that i've seen yet... and WINE isn't an emulator anyway ;)
[09:45] <ChaosFan> M_Fatih: if you have bad luck you have to rewrite the GUI parts, then it maybe works ;)
[09:45] <MM2> which site had a lot of screenshots of different OSes?
[09:45] <M_Fatih> SilentDis, :) sorry.. (like emulator)
[09:45] <SilentDis> M_Fatih:  no worries, my comment was purely toungue-in-cheek :)
[09:45] <M_Fatih> :..( i want my some applications in macosx :(
[09:46] <ChaosFan> MM2: a screenshot of a OS is bullshit, sorry, as you can configure your graphical environment in about 1 million ways in every linux-distro and *BSD
[09:46] <RVman> what do i do in this case? -> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xsdynU88.html
[09:46] <M_Fatih> ubuntu's performance is awesome
[09:46] <SilentDis> M_Fatih:  what app, in particular, are you looking for?  there might be a linux equivilant
[09:46] <MM2> ChaosFan: ty yours opinion, I'm looking screeshots of other OSes than linux
[09:46] <ChaosFan> RVman: do you have aptitude or synaptic running?
[09:47] <RVman> ChaosFan, no
[09:47] <SilentDis> MM2:  i dare say you'd recognize my 'look' for windows.  even then, windowblinds causes it to look different.  a 'screenshot' is meaningless, really.
[09:47] <ChaosFan> MM2: it still shows nothing about how to handle the OS... and google might find some...
[09:47] <rwoes> I have been looking around all night for help.  I am new to linux and need to know how to change ALL of my icons for a specific filetype in nautilus.  For example, if I had a cool icon and wanted to change all my .mp3 files to have that icon, how do I do it?
[09:48] <ChaosFan> RVman: hm, but looks like it... one moment
[09:48] <M_Fatih> :( hmm.. i want to use my "bussiness card designer" and i can't remember but i writing html codes in this application.. actually i'm using ubuntu about 3 years :) after osx86 i turned to macosx, but i don't like it's performance but macosx applications are very easy and increse productivity (sorry bad english)
[09:48] <jazzrocker> anyone know the answer to my question?
[09:48] <MM2> I also have different theme fow xp, but still looking for that site, which had a lot of screenshots. Ubuntu once had it linked to them site, but it is not anymore there. Id had shots of install process etc
[09:49] <jazzrocker> how do i get my apt to stop saying "this is an untrusted source"
[09:49] <SilentDis> MM2:  oh!  you're looking for a walkthru or the like for something?
[09:49] <MM2> SilentDis: It had that too
[09:50] <MM2> SilentDis: from many os'es
[09:50] <midgetg0at> so, any fix for the nVidia driver update issue?
[09:50] <ChaosFan> RVman: if you really don't have anything running, you could `sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock`
[09:50] <midgetg0at> It's affecting my Steam install on wine also...telling me driver version conflict or something.
[09:50] <ChaosFan> RVman: and then try again
[09:50] <SilentDis> MM2:  what, exactly, are you looking to do?  we can help you with any problems you might have with Ubuntu.  most of us tend to revert to terminal stuff anyway lol
[09:50] <nomin> flash 9 works better but the audio is not perfectly in sync with the video.  It's still good though.
[09:51] <RVman> ChaosFan, wait i will try
[09:51] <RVman> ChaosFan, the truth is i can't even run synaptic, everytime i open it, it gets closed by itself
[09:51] <M_Fatih> anyway, thanks for discuss/ideas, ChaosFan  SilentDis see you again.. :)
[09:51] <rwoes> hmm
[09:51] <ChaosFan> RVman: while that lock-file exists no front-end to apt-get will start
[09:52] <morphir> anyone configured apache with mod_rewrite on ubuntu here?
[09:52] <ChaosFan> except aptitude which lets you browse the packages but not install anything, yay... ;)
[09:53] <RVman> ChaosFan, thanks, it works now
[09:53] <cari_sohib_ce> iam
[09:53] <ChaosFan> RVman: np
[09:53] <bokey> the usb module "modinfo rndis_host" works great!!!! =)
[09:55] <jazzrocker> does anyone have any idea on this: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[09:55] <jazzrocker> how do i authenticate them?
[09:55] <julo> hi
[09:55] <MM2> ah, finally found it :) http://osdir.com/index.php
[09:55] <julo> Which configuration file do I have to edit if I want to add a program to GNOME's startup programs ?
[09:55] <SilentDis> MM2:  sorry we couldn't be of assistance on that.
[09:57] <SilentDis> julo:  you can go System > Prefrences > Sessions > Startup Programs Tab
[09:57] <ChaosFan> jazzrocker: the end of that message tells you which gpg-keys are missing, you have to add them
[09:57] <julo> SilentDis: I know that, but I need to do it from command line (in a bash script)
[09:58] <SilentDis> julo:  searching... give me a moment here...
[10:00] <cherubiel> jazzrocker: you need to import the servers keys
[10:00] <cherubiel> !apt-key
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <julo> SilentDis: thank you
[10:02] <thux> Hi is there any howto for Edgy and nVidia driver from nvidia page?
[10:03] <abhishek> how to use telnet
[10:04] <sc4ttrbrain> what devices that works well with skipe in ubuntu (speaking two ways)?
[10:04] <M_Fatih> bye all
[10:04] <sc4ttrbrain> oops,typo
[10:04] <sc4ttrbrain> what devices that works well with skype in ubuntu (speaking two ways)?
[10:04] <abhishek> how to use telnet
[10:05] <jazzrocker> apt-get update solved it
[10:05] <jazzrocker> thx tho
[10:05] <ChaosFan> abhishek: man telnet
[10:05] <sc4ttrbrain> abhishek, just type telnet on terminal
[10:05] <minimec> abhishek: I wouldn't use telnet at all ;)
[10:05] <leafw> minimec : telnet is still very useful
[10:05] <ChaosFan> unspecific question ==> unspecific answer...
[10:05] <julo> SilentDis: I found it ! http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
[10:06] <cherubiel> !telnet | abhishek
[10:06] <ubotu> abhishek: telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[10:06] <julo> SilentDis: thanks anyway
[10:06] <abhishek> does telnet require any package?
[10:06] <sc4ttrbrain> !ssh | abishek
[10:06] <abhishek> ssh
[10:06] <ubotu> abishek: ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:06] <SilentDis> julo:  sorry i took so long, glad you found an answer though :)
[10:06] <abhishek> yes i use ssh only
[10:06] <abhishek> i just want to know how to use telnet
[10:06] <abhishek> let me check
[10:07] <sc4ttrbrain> what devices that works well with skype in ubuntu (speaking two ways)?
[10:07] <Kaiyang> Cheezezzzzz - Anyone can help me lists out the advantages of using Ubuntu for server than CentOS? It's for my boss...
[10:07] <sc4ttrbrain> cari_sohib_ce, org indo nih :p ?
[10:08] <ChaosFan> wtf is CentOS?
[10:08] <SilentDis> Kaiyang:  what does the server do?
[10:08] <sc4ttrbrain> ChaosFan, centOS is well known for its security for servers
[10:09] <Kaiyang> well for hosting customer's beta website etc.
[10:09] <ChaosFan> so is openBSD...
[10:09] <Kaiyang> sql querying etc
[10:09] <Kaiyang> file server
[10:09] <SilentDis> Kaiyang:  i'd stick with CentOS or BSD on such an environment, personally.
[10:10] <sc4ttrbrain> Kaiyang, i would stick to debian or debian based distro personally, imo, its depend on how you configure it
[10:10] <Kaiyang> I see.
[10:10] <SilentDis> Kaiyang:  ubuntu works great for desktops... I still run FreeBSD on my server environments though.  just a personal opinion on it :)
[10:11] <Kaiyang> Anyone tried CENTOS before?
[10:11] <sc4ttrbrain> what devices that works well with skype in ubuntu (speaking two ways)?
[10:11] <pwuertz> sc4ttrbrain, a soundcard with hardware mixing
[10:12] <pwuertz> sc4ttrbrain, any creative soundcard (almost)
[10:12] <rihui> does anybody know why is that when i try to open lets say 10 music files by rightclicking->open, my default media player open up 10 times and not queue the files into the playlist?
[10:12] <Kaiyang> Well I am new to linux. To me Ubuntu has been working very well.. kind of user-friendly. Very close to windows operating methods. But changing to CENTOS I'm losing confident
[10:12] <iwaterball> Kaiyang: I did, what do you want to know?
[10:12] <sc4ttrbrain> PwcrLinux, i was hoping like somekind of webcam
[10:12] <bokey> Kaiyang# why ?
[10:13] <Kaiyang> CENTOS as user friendly as UBUNTU?
[10:13] <iwaterball> Kaiyang: If you want to run a proper server, you're gonna have to at-least learn some unix
[10:13] <dorto> Kaiyang, I don't think so
[10:13] <iwaterball> Kaiyang: not really
[10:13] <sc4ttrbrain> PwcrLinux, i have this webcam ,but can only hear voices, no way to broadcast mine
[10:13] <Kaiyang> easy to operate? and is the CENTOS community as big as UBUNTU?
[10:14] <ChaosFan> sc4ttrbrain: but you have a microphone, don't you?
[10:14] <SilentDis> Kaiyang:  when I pick an OS for a server environment, 'ease' of use is kinda down there on my list of requirements.  I rank stability, security, and system requirements a lot higher :)
[10:14] <iwaterball> Kaiyang: in some respects its bigger since it also includes the redhat community
[10:14] <sc4ttrbrain> Kaiyang, try google for the centos community
[10:14] <nomin> is there a way to get the avi files from youtube instead of the flv files?
[10:14] <Werdnum> convert the flv files?
[10:14] <SilentDis> nomin:  no... but you can convert the flv file to an mpeg :)
[10:15] <sc4ttrbrain> ChaosFan, i think it is in the webcam...in windows i can use it to voice chat in ymessenger
[10:15] <ChaosFan> sc4ttrbrain: then it seems to have one built in, yes...
[10:15] <rihui> does anybody know why is that when i try to open lets say 10 music files by rightclicking->open, my default media player open up 10 times and not queue the files into the playlist?
[10:15] <ifireball> Kaiyang: if you want to run a linux server, I'd recommand going the Debian way, that way you cat at-least stay in a familier "apt" environment
[10:15] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, have you tried recording through the mic on Ubuntu?
[10:16] <ChaosFan> rihui: depends on your default media player and how to configure it.
[10:16] <wutison> would anyone like to share web site to check all ubuntu linux  aplication`s rates, popularity and ... all info about them how many times it has been downloaded ?  please ?
[10:16] <Delkster> It might just be that some recording volumes are low or muted or something else like that if it doesn't seem to work at all.
[10:16] <Trist_an> how can I know the time of creation of a file in the format HH:MM:SS
[10:16] <Trist_an> ?
[10:16] <ifireball> Kaiyang: use centos only if you have a 3rd pary application that really needs a redhat-like distro, e.g. Oracle
[10:16] <SilentDis> nomin:  check this website for info on converting them: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Convert_FLV_s_(Google_Video)_to_MPEG,_AVI,_etc._on_Linux
[10:16] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, , questions, do i have to change from alsa to camera when recording
[10:16] <rihui> no matter what media i use, they all act the same
[10:16] <Kaiyang> does LAMP work well on CENTOS?
[10:16] <ifireball> Kaiyang: and only if you intebd to eventually but a RedHat licence
[10:16] <Kaiyang> mysql and php
[10:17] <rihui> from beep mp to xmms to vlc to mplayer to exaile to banshee to listen
[10:17] <nomin> SilentDis, thanks
[10:17] <SilentDis> nomin:  nt :)
[10:17] <nomin> SilentDis, but aren't youtube and google videos really just avi's that are manipulated somehow with macromedia?
[10:18] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, I don't know exactly what you mean. What options do you have? Do you mean switching from a separate ALSA-supported sound card to something integrated in the camera?
[10:18] <ifireball> Kaiyang: LAMP works well with any Linux-based OS, from my poersonal experiance Debian-based distros are easy in that respect (apt-get install mysql is alot easyer that trying to manually figure out the RPM dependencies)
[10:18] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, what options do you have for the recording device?
[10:18] <po0f> rihui: It's only doing what you told it to do.  I think you are looking for an "add to queue" option.
[10:18] <SilentDis> nomin:  from what I understand, yes.  they instruct you to compile ffmpeg from source, btw... don't bother.  just sudo apt-get install ffmpeg :)
[10:18] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, do you mean option> record from input?
[10:18] <GarethMB> Hi, i'm having a boot problem, i've described it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1735055#post1735055 but it's yet to get any real attention. If anyone thinks they can help i would apreciate it.
[10:19] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, i meant on the open volume control
[10:19] <nomin> SilentDis, but isn't there a way to get a url that gives the location of the avi's on websites?
[10:19] <rihui> but sometimes it  queue the files but sometimes it opens in separate window.
[10:19] <Delkster> Kaiyang, LAMP should work fine on any Linux distribution as far as I can tell, but it will probably require some effort to configure it on any of them.
[10:19] <SilentDis> nomin:  once apt-get is done, you can just run it like this:  ffmpeg -i video.flv -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500  -s 320x240 test.mpg
[10:19] <SilentDis> nomin:  you can use http://www.keepvid.com/ to get the video file, once it's on your drive, you can use ffmpeg to convert it
[10:20] <rihui> po0f: sometimes they open in separate window and sometimes they queue in the player.
[10:20] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, should i change from intel (alsa mixer) to camera(alsamixer)?
[10:20] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, that shouldn't have effect on which device is actually used for recording. It's only there so you can select which device's volume levels you adjust. Try the one you think you're using for recording.
[10:21] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, trying now,will tell u the result
[10:21] <Kaiyang> well seems... I can't shake off my boss's request as I do not have a critercial advantage over CENTOS for Ubuntu
[10:21] <tengil> i have a text file with a bunch of lines and i want to remove everything after a ) and keep what comes before. how do i do that
[10:21] <nomin> SilentDis, this page makes it look easy.  I'll try it out.
[10:21] <Kaiyang> HAve to try out CENTOS on VMWARE
[10:21] <SilentDis> nomin:  it is.  been doing it for a while ;)
[10:21] <nomin> cool
[10:21] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, if you have to change which device is actually used for recording, try "gstreamer-properties" on the terminal (that'll only affect applications that use gstreamer, though)
[10:21] <Kaiyang> to find out how difficult it can be
[10:21] <sersci> hei,  I have a problem when trying to install ubuntu on  Optiplex 745 machine. First tg3 driver doesn*t work, solved that by using official Interl's driver (will report a bug). More problematic, Video card is not supported (GMA 3000). As Intel as released the drivers as open source, I wonder if there's a way for me to get these drivers into Dapper or Edgy without having to recompile X & all
[10:22] <Kaiyang> Thanks guys
[10:22] <ifireball> Kaiyang: I can give you a hint that might help you alot with centos
[10:22] <Kaiyang> good
[10:22] <Kaiyang> what's it?
[10:22] <ifireball> Kaiyang: do you know apt-get?
[10:23] <Kaiyang> no... I am using GUI installation with synotic manager
[10:23] <Kaiyang> but i think i can understand the apt-get concept
[10:24] <ifireball> Kaiyang: o.k. but I suppose you're familier with to concept of repositories and an automatic package manager
[10:24] <RVman> hey
[10:24] <Hoxzer> hey
[10:24] <Kaiyang> I'm not sure about that
[10:24] <RVman> ChaosFan, what do i do when a program tells me "Could not open /dev/sequencer. and another program is probably using it"?
[10:25] <Hoxzer> I dunno but I would do fuser /dev/sequencer
[10:25] <RVman> weh well i think i will just restart my PC, it needs it anyway
[10:25] <ifireball> Kaiyang: e.g. that fact that you install software by selecting it in some tool rather then downloading it your self and running a "setup.exe" program
[10:26] <achandra> has anyone used dvdrip before?
[10:26] <Trist_an> how can I know the time of creation of a file in the format HH:MM:SS?
[10:26] <achandra> how do you re-assemble the copied dvd to cdrom and have it autoplay in a dvd player?
[10:26] <McMadd> I'm in desperate need of help with a startup script. What's the policy on asking help? Do I just throw it in the channel?
[10:26] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, there are about 7 choices in record from input option,like line-in,aux,video,phone,etc but none of them producing my voices
[10:26] <Kaiyang> yup ok... tht's what i am doing
[10:26] <SilentDis> !ask McMadd
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask McMadd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, maybe u wanna know my lsusb...
[10:27] <SilentDis> whoops, wrong command to the bot rofl
[10:27] <McMadd> oops, there's probably also a !help
[10:27] <McMadd> !help
[10:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:27] <achandra> Trist_an: how about ls -lah
[10:27] <ifireball> Kaiyang: essencially, what I'm trying to say is that centos has a tool similar to apt-get called yum (I don't think it has a GUI front-end though), learning it can save you hours of trying to manullay resolve package dependecies
[10:27] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger
[10:27] <SilentDis> McMadd:  just ask.  I can't remember the command to make the bot chide you ;)
[10:28] <boink> hullo
[10:28] <Trist_an> achandra, it gives me day, hour and minutes but not seconds...
[10:28] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, I don't know much about webcams (never used one myself) but have you checked if this device is supposed to work in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <ailean> SilentDis, !ask :)
[10:28] <Kaiyang> may I know what are the basic command for yum? like?
[10:28] <ailean> Kaiyang, yum install *, but ubuntu usually uses apt
[10:28] <SilentDis> ailean, there's what I was looking for...
[10:29] <ailean> SilentDis, np :)
[10:29] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, the thing is,i can broadcast and receive video as in ymesenger
[10:29] <SilentDis> !ask > McMadd
[10:29] <achandra> Trist_an: ls -lavh
[10:29] <RVman> didn't work :(
[10:29] <ifireball> Kaiyang: the basic command is "yum"... the rest you're gonna have to learn from the manual page...
[10:29] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, i can even hear they're talkin
[10:29] <RVman> ermm
[10:29] <RVman> where is that dude that tried to help me earlier?
[10:29] <SilentDis> McMadd:  now that Ubotu has had his say, what's your question?  lol
[10:29] <armstrong80> Has anyone had any problems after installing Edgy where when downloading torrents after the first one they get an error 'Address already in use'?
[10:29] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, but cant broadcast mine
[10:29] <achandra> v for vandetta...errm...verbose...
[10:29] <McMadd> Ok, I have disabled gdm and need to start my own xsession. I have created a script that works when I run it as root from the console but it won't work when I make a symbolic link in rc2.d.
[10:29] <RVman> does anyone know what to do when a program tells me "Could not open /dev/sequencer.
[10:29] <RVman> Probably there is another program using it."?
[10:29] <Kaiyang> oh thanks. Certainly I hope it's not going to be a nightmare for me
[10:30] <zoetrope666> hi all :) can someone help me > i've been downloading different login window themes and trying them out, however in the process i appear to have lost the 'restart' and 'shutdown' options from both my login window at startup, and from my quit menu at shutdown. is this fixable?
[10:30] <Trist_an> archangelpetro, still no seconds
[10:30] <nomin> SilentDis, works like a charm :)
[10:30] <SilentDis> nomin:  :D
[10:30] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, the thing is few ppl on forum ehich has the same lsusb output as mine,manage to use this webcam to talk two ways
[10:30] <McMadd> Can I paste it here? It's only 6 lines
[10:30] <ailean> McMadd, no
[10:30] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, sorry, hard to help much further since I neither have a webcam nor use Yahoo.
[10:30] <SilentDis> nomin:  good, now go get the video for White and Nerdy and watch it on loop for the next 4 hours.  :D  rofl
[10:31] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, ok thanks anyway
[10:31] <Delkster> However, what I'd do is check out if you can get recording to work in some other application, for example the Gnome sound recorder.
[10:31] <ifireball> hare is an interesting idea I thought of this morning, suppose I get and install a webcamera, does any body knows a sotware that can detect and record motion with the camera? (e.g don't record anything until something actually moves in ther room?)
[10:31] <ailean> !pastebin > McMadd
[10:31] <Delkster> If you can get it working there but not on Yahoo, the problem is somehow with the later
[10:31] <nomin> SilentDis, I saw it under comedy earlier.  I'll check it out lol
[10:31] <Delkster> latter
[10:31] <rausb0> Trist_an: ls -l --full-time
[10:31] <Delkster> If you can't get it working anywhere, it's somewhere deeper, possibly with the mixer settings.
[10:31] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, could u suggest solution...possibly cheap devices...
[10:31] <McMadd> ailean: ok. ( I realy need a list of commands :) ... feel kinda lost )
[10:31] <SilentDis> nomin:  weird al is god.  *to mods* I'll stop being off topic now ;)
[10:32] <zoetrope666> hi all :) can someone help me > i've been downloading different login window themes and trying them out, however in the process i appear to have lost the 'restart' and 'shutdown' options from both my login window at startup, and from my quit menu at shutdown. is this fixable?
[10:32] <McMadd> !pastebin
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:32] <ailean> McMadd, I wish i could help you
[10:32] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, you could also try "alsamixer" on the terminal instead of the Gnome volume control. It usually has more options.
[10:32] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, not really, because I have zero experience with webcams
[10:32] <jazzrocker> how can i determine what my processor is?
[10:32] <Kaiyang> crap! CENTOS channel don't seems to respond...
[10:32] <jazzrocker> this is a VPS i'm not sure
[10:32] <ailean> McMadd, of course, Google is your friend too
[10:32] <jazzrocker> i didn't buy it, i'm just the admin
[10:32] <Kaiyang> a big minus in impression so far
[10:32] <rausb0> jazzrocker: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:33] <netpython> jazzrocker, uname -a
[10:33] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, no,i mean any devide so i can talk in skype...
[10:33] <jazzrocker> uname didn't do it
[10:33] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, device
[10:33] <Trist_an> rausb0, yes it works, thank you
[10:33] <ifireball> Kaiyang: it may not be on freenode, try their website 1st
[10:33] <McMadd> ailean: believe me I've googled like crazy..
[10:33] <jazzrocker> ok it's an opteron
[10:33] <Kaiyang> it's on freenode
[10:33] <jazzrocker> does that qualify as x86_64?
[10:33] <netpython> if you have xchat you could use the sysinfo plugin like this:
[10:33] <Kaiyang> that's written on their web
[10:33] <netpython> os[Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-petnython i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 2.20GHz]  mem[Physical : 1010MB, 79.7% free]  disk[Total : 146.99GB, 88.60% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV36.2 [GeForce FX 5700] ]  sound[]
[10:33] <jazzrocker> sorry, i don't know much about the server CPU market
[10:34] <ailean> McMadd, i'm sure you have :)  some folks don't think of it though. ask again in 10 mins mibbe someone can help
[10:34] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, ah... well, I have a standard headset that plugs in to my sound card's microphone jack. That works fine but getting sound recording to work in Linux may still take some tweaking with the mixer settings, unfortunately.
[10:34] <Kaiyang> maybe u can check out #centos. There's so many people, and none reply to my question
[10:34] <armstrong80> I have installed Edgy and now when I try and attempt a second torrent I get an 'address already in use' error. Anyone have any ideas? What does the default torrent client show up as in System Monitor?
[10:34] <achandra> Trist_an: this i think works too - ls -lavh --time-style=full-iso
[10:34] <Terminus> jazzrocker: cat /proc/cpu
[10:34] <ifireball> McMadd: scripts in /etc/init.d need to accept varion command line parameters and act accordingly, there are alot easyer ways to do what you want
[10:34] <Kaiyang> they are so "COLD" to me... start to miss ubuntu
[10:34] <Terminus> jazzrocker: errr... cat /proc/cpuinfo i mean.
[10:34] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, do u have to install some driver or...
[10:34] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, I don't know about USB headsets -- they should work, too, but I don't know what you need to do to select one as your input/output device over the default sound card (perhaps nothing nowadays but I don't have one)
[10:35] <Ox41464b> How do i check for CPU Temp ?
[10:35] <SilentDis> Kaiyang:  i have to admit, of all the various distros i've messed with, the Ubuntu community is just about the warmest, most knowledgable one I've ever come across.  VERY refreshing :)
[10:35] <achandra> anyone familiar with dvdrip?
[10:35] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, thanks i ll try it later
[10:35] <Delkster> sc4ttrbrain, that probably depends on your sound card. If your sound card generally works with Linux, then probably no. For USB audio devices, no.
[10:35] <McMadd> ifireball: enlighten me please, I'm a linux newbie and the dude that helped is not available today...
[10:35] <Kaiyang> SilentDis, I totally agree
[10:36] <McMadd> It's the last step in a project that needs to finish today
[10:36] <jazzrocker> are opterons 64 bit?
[10:36] <dorto> what is the name of open source version of kqemu(qemu accelerator)?
[10:36] <jazzrocker> Terminus, yeh i know i just did that, someone else said that too
[10:36] <ifireball> McMadd: 1st try to explain to me what are you trying to accomplish, so I can directo you properly
[10:37] <dorto> it was sth like vbemu...
[10:37] <sc4ttrbrain> Delkster, well this is the last thing that make me keeps my windows partition :p thanks anyway
[10:37] <armstrong80> I'll approach this at a different angle then. Has everyone been able to download multiple torrent files under Edgy?
[10:37] <Terminus> jazzrocker: sorry. too many messages to read. didn't notice.
[10:37] <noiesmo> achandra, if your interested I just use dvdshrink and dvddycrypter running under wine heres the howto http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[10:37] <rausb0> dorto: qvm86?
[10:37] <slinky_> hello folks, does anyone answer a question about wine or tell me where I may be able to ask elsewhere?
[10:38] <McMadd> Can you see what I've put in the pastebin? (Still learning the ins and outs of this channel to)
[10:38] <SilentDis> slinky_:  ask away.  if we can't answer, we'll send you off elsewhere, otherwise, we'll try :)
[10:38] <ifireball> McMadd: you need to pase a link to the patebin page you've made here
[10:38] <netpython> noiesmo, what about dvdrip?
[10:38] <Delkster> armstrong80, I've used Azureus instead of the default client, and that way yes. I don't know much about the default client.
[10:38] <McMadd> ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30821/
[10:38] <allabulle> hi
[10:39] <McMadd> nice concept
[10:39] <achandra> noiesmo: thnx...ill take a look at it. I have the dvd portion svaed in individual directories of chapters or whatever...but the re-compilation into a single cd is what I dont understand how to do .
[10:39] <armstrong80> Ty Delkster I'll give it a try
[10:39] <McMadd> ifireball: It's that simple... I've disabled gdm and need this script to execute
[10:39] <dorto> rausb0, yep, that was it. been googling for such a while, thx :)
[10:40] <slinky_> SilentDis: I have winME installed on drive C across a LAN and Diablo II installed on drive D also across the LAN, any chance in this world of being able to run diablo under dapper drake :)
[10:40] <dorto> none of them(kqemu, qvm86) seem to be available for ubuntu :(
[10:40] <SilentDis> slinky_: oh yes :)
[10:41] <SilentDis> slinky_: you'll need a package called Cedega for that, i believe.  costs $15 for 3-month 'membership', i have nothing but platitudes for it :)
[10:41] <slinky_> SilentDis: could you open a window with me and explain the basics, so I may try it?
[10:41] <McMadd> ifireball: when i run it from the konsole it works flawlessly but like I said before, when I put it in rc2.d it only start X, not the DISPLAY part
[10:41] <SilentDis> slinky_:  check out http://www.transgaming.com/
[10:42] <bunnu> has ne one of u used OSSIM on ubuntu
[10:42] <netpython> dorto, qemu is available,correct me if i'm wrong but isn't kqemu a accelerator module?
[10:43] <McMadd> ifireball: some additional info: I've created an autologin and the machine should start like the script sais on boot
[10:43] <SilentDis> slinky_: Cedega wraps wine as well as DirectX stuff, and allows games to 'just run'.  I play Dreamfall, SWG, KOTOR2 with it :)
[10:43] <yukio> is there a way to take Wesnoth to latest version to play online?
[10:43] <ifireball> McMadd: because manually loading X and hoping that it'll be up by the time you get to the client lines is the wrong way to go about this, it alos probably gives you trouble with X security permissions
[10:43] <dorto> netpython, yes; when i start qemu, it says /dev/kqemu not found; i searched for kqemu but couldn't find it with apt-cache search
[10:43] <slinky_> SilentDis: I have a fat32 format drive /hda on this dapper system, i could move the diablo directory over to it, would that help any?
[10:44] <SilentDis> slinky_:  Cedega creates a games directory to install do in your home directory.  it handles all of it for you.
[10:44] <netpython> dorto, you can compile the kqemu module
[10:44] <ifireball> McMadd: I think a better way to do tihs is to configure GDM to auto-login a certain user and then put a .xsession file in his home dir to run the Xclients you want
[10:44] <crow> Hi all, I download FULL install of Ubuntu 6.10, i try to boot with it and i get Boot CD or Install, but it wont load ... i take ages, and then only ctr+alt+del help...
[10:45] <Trist_an> I have uninstalled powernowd and I want to reinstall it. But now, synaptic tells me he will uninstall kubuntu-desktop. How can I just tell him to just reinstall powernowd without uninstalling kubuntu-desktop?
[10:45] <rausb0> dorto: qemu still runs without the kernel module. it will just be slower.
[10:45] <SilentDis> crow:  how much memory on the system?
[10:45] <dorto> netpython, you mean configure & make? won't that interfere with apt's file organisation?
[10:45] <McMadd> ifireball: That sounds exactly like my needs, but why still use gdm?
[10:45] <slinky_> SilentDis: I copied all of that down and will check it out, I just love playing Diablo, and I thank you very much for you help, one other question if i may ask?
[10:45] <crow> SilentDis 512MB
[10:45] <SilentDis> slinky_: ask away
[10:46] <netpython> dorto, not intefere but you loose the funtionality yes
[10:46] <dorto> rausb0, yeah, I know, but it should be slightly faster with accelerator module. I would go with Xen if I want top performance but qemu is so easy to install and use ;)
[10:46] <netpython> +cc
[10:46] <SilentDis> crow:  odd hardware or some such?  does it let you pick an option at all?  does it start the boot?
[10:46] <netpython> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html
[10:46] <slinky_> SilentDis: If i install winXP using qemu, can i then install diablo there?
[10:46] <dorto> netpython, I assume kqemu files get copied in proper folders then. will give it a try.
[10:46] <rausb0> dorto: i wouldnt use a partly closed source kernel module just to get qemu faster
[10:46] <SilentDis> slinky_: I'm not versed in qemu, sorry :(
[10:46] <netpython> dorto, can hurt
[10:46] <netpython> can't
[10:47] <ifireball> McMadd: because there is a lot of various work that needs to be done in order to properly initialise an X session, its a whole lot easyer to have GDM do it for you then try to do it manually with a script
[10:47] <McMadd> ifireball: So if I put a Xsession script in someones homedir it will be executed? (I'm that new to linux) No symbolic startup links needed?
[10:47] <slinky_> SilentDis: well thanks anyways, it might be interesting to have a look at it :), have a nice day
[10:47] <crow> SilentDis it load kernel, then other screen, it come (to i think 90%) and then stop.... i pres ctr+alt+del and it tell me to pres enter to restart
[10:48] <dorto> rausb0, netpython, I better use qemu only then. let them create an open accelerate
[10:48] <dorto> soon
[10:48] <ifireball> McMadd: I'm still looking into what exact name of the script should be, the answer is somewhere in /etc/gdm, I'll find it soon enough
[10:48] <McMadd> ifireball: But, if I autolgin a certain user I still get the gdm login screen. The tty1 is sitting there logged in.
[10:48] <rausb0> slinky_: i think diablo in winxp under qemu will be too slow (if it runs at all). qemu does not emulate any 3d accelerated gfx card.
[10:48] <crow> SilentDis i dont know about odd hardware (xp,vista) working fine...
[10:48] <netpython> dorto, yep
[10:49] <McMadd> ifireball: Offcourse (duh) I added the autologin to the tty1 service
[10:49] <ifireball> McMadd: you need to have GDM auto-login not the tty
[10:49] <slinky_> rausb0: thank you for the info
[10:49] <progek> hello fellow community, is there someone who can help me with a tomcat/servlet question? I have a permissions issue within the servlet if anyone can help.
[10:49] <McMadd> ifireball: Right, I realised it
[10:49] <dorto> it is strange to see even help.ubuntu.com, which i consider as official ubuntu help, having instructions on manaully installing qemu and kqemu.
[10:49] <SilentDis> crow:  i BELIEVE you can hit ctrl-alt-f1 and check out the console behind the ubuntu load screen.  not so sure if that's possible with the edgy livecd, though (running dapper here)
[10:50] <dorto> progek, #tomcat
[10:50] <ifireball> McMadd: actally disabling the TTY autologin or even the TTY itself might be a smart move here security-wise
[10:50] <progek> dorto: thanks, but everyone seems to ignore me there :/ so, thought I would try here
[10:50] <crow> SilentDis cant get the console, i tried f1 till f7.... just stop responding. checked memory test working fine 0 errors.
[10:51] <slinky_> bye folks
[10:51] <dorto> progek, try there some other time; that's life on irc ;)
[10:51] <trondare> i'd like to use nvidia's installer instead of the ubuntu packaged drivers, how should i proceed? any packages i should remove first in order to avoid conflicts?
[10:51] <SilentDis> crow: you got me baffled.  I've installed dapper on quite a few machines too.  sorry :(
[10:51] <trondare> running edgy
[10:52] <trondare> and currently using the ubuntu packaged nvidia drivers
[10:52] <McMadd> ifireball: that's not necessary. This machine will be running 2 touchscreens which will disable any unauthorised access. Only real smart people who really want to get in might be able to (doubt it though) but it doesn't matter because there's nothing to gain for them in the final setup
[10:52] <progek> trondare: you just want to install nvidia video drivers?
[10:52] <trondare> progek: correct
[10:52] <McMadd> ifireball: no keyboard either...
[10:52] <progek> I think just a sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx should do
[10:52] <trondare> and if possible, avoid that an upgrade will break everything
[10:52] <progek> one minute
[10:52] <SilentDis> crow:  gotta be something hanging waiting... no idea where the console output is going though.  have you tried booting in 'safe video' mode or some such?  (if it's an option on the menu)
[10:52] <trondare> progek: well, i'd like to install them using nvidia's installer, to get the latest driver
[10:53] <McMadd> ifireball: I just dove into the way I created the autologin for tty1 but can't figure out quickly how to do that for gdm. Any hints?
[10:53] <ifireball> McMadd: the rule with security is "be paraniod"
[10:53] <SilentDis> !nvidia > SilentDis
[10:54] <crow> SilentDis jes there is option, i didnt tried, i just wonna install it not run...
[10:54] <McMadd> ifireball: I know, and I agree but in this situation it's really not necessary.
[10:54] <trondare> i wish there was something similar to make-jpkg and java for nvidia drivers...
[10:55] <rausb0> McMadd: looks like the script has to be run as root (because X must run as root). so firefox is also run as root. very bad. even with touch pad only you will be able to overwrite /etc/passwd or something by simply saving a web page with "save as..."
[10:55] <trondare> anyone has experience using the nvidia installer on edgy?
[10:55] <ifireball> McMadd: you probably need to make some changes in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf I suppose the cpmments in the file will give you enough hints, I'll look into that when I'm done figuring out what the file in the home-dir shuold be called, I suppose setting up the auto-login should be the last step after you've got your custom-session running
[10:56] <McMadd> ifireball: ok, that'll get get me going...
[10:56] <SilentDis> trondare:  did you check out the help info?
[10:56] <SilentDis> !nvidia > trondare
[10:56] <trondare> SilentDis: the help info?
[10:56] <hume> i have a problem with a printer, HP business inkjet 1200. I had in installed, using hpijs, but it stopped working, and when trying to reinstall, what is automatically found is a canon and an epson on the lpt where the HP is... anyone can advice me on this?
[10:56] <hume> running edgy on an amd64-system
[10:56] <trondare> SilentDis: yeah, that doesn't answer my question
[10:57] <trondare> i want to use nvidia's installer
[10:57] <trondare> _not_ the ubuntu packaged drivers
[10:57] <McMadd> rausb0: You are right but it will only mess up the users screens and he will have gained nothing but a screen that won't do what it's supposed to. There's no inet involved whatsoever.
[10:58] <yuky2314> irc.hanirc.org
[10:59] <ifireball> McMadd: ok. thwe file can either be called .xsession or .Xsession in the user's home dir and you need the line "allow-user-xsession" to appear in the /etc/X11/Xsession.options file
[11:00] <ifireball> McMadd: (it seems to be there by default but check anyway)
[11:00] <McMadd> Ah men, I wish I came here 4 days ago when I started this build with another n00b....
[11:03] <SilentDis> beddie bye time for me.  g'night all
[11:03] <xerath2> After upgrading from dapper to edgy on two machines (one desktop and one server), I'm experiencing a weird issue... The servers locales have been preserved, but on my desktop they have changed (default locale is suddenly ANSI, and no matter what I do I can't get the two boxes locales to match). Any tips?
[11:04] <jazzrocker> is there any way to dist upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:05] <ifireball> McMadd: I think "AutomaticLogin" in your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf file should be set to the name of the user you want to login, not sure though, this might be easyer to setup with "sudo gdmsetup"
[11:06] <McMadd> ifireball: autologin like that appears to be not working but I'm still playing with your (very usefull) sugestions..
[11:08] <rickyfingers> how's everybody doing?
[11:08] <McMadd> ifireball: before I try the Xsession script, I'm guessing the line 'X' is not necessary anymore?
[11:08] <Derek__> any guys know that how to upgrade dapper to edgy from cd-rom?
[11:09] <McMadd> ifireball: autologin works!
[11:09] <rickyfingers> Derek - where are you having problems?
[11:09] <ifireball> McMadd: no, and niether is manually setting the DISPLAY variable
[11:09] <AdamKili> i know it a really simple answer, but what which package do i need to fix this?: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables