[03:27] <jerbear> i can't manage users and groups anymore with hardy... what gives?
[03:27] <farzad> what shall i do ?
[03:27] <earlh> has anyone here noticed that hardy is slow to shutdown / logout,  as well as locking up during these operations using ati fglrx
[03:27] <epp> farzad, does the screen turn on?
[03:27] <farzad> yes it does
[03:27] <rich_freecomm> FlashWolf: reason I asked is that my Dell Inspiron 100 was before Dell got wise to Linux and I'm not sure if it's phone modem works with Hardy (or Gutsy, for that matter)
[03:27] <Pelo> RunKidRun, this is what you do , you start the live cd   you make a new partion you move the content of /home to it then when you install ubuntu you use manual partitionning and you tell it what partion /home is in , and it will mout ti there,  after that you'll be able to reisntall at will without loosing your data
[03:27] <farzad> but the 3d effects are gone
[03:27] <epp> farzad, how does it not work?
[03:27] <Tim1> thank u
[03:27] <epp> farzad, u have nvidia or ati?
[03:27] <farzad> and i can not enable it in the apperance
[03:27] <Pelo> ienorand, now that you've taken out the umast stuff, try putting it back maybe now it will work
[03:27] <farzad> Nvidia
[03:28] <epp> farzad, reinstall
[03:28] <farzad> how
[03:28] <farzad> i did not installed it
[03:28] <rich_freecomm> FlashWolf: 1000 even...
[03:28] <FlashWolf> rich_freecomm: hmm... anyway, thk u very much for help...
[03:28] <fbc> Anyone know why openoffice would be freezing up a fresh install?
[03:28] <farzad> it was installed by the operating system
[03:28] <farzad> how can i reinstall it ?
[03:28] <Pelo> fbc, no java and java is eanbled in office ?
[03:28] <rich_freecomm> FlashWolf: just learning about all this myself :)
[03:28] <epp> farzad, disable it in restricted drivers
[03:28] <epp> then re enable
[03:29] <neyugn> anyone know how to get a hp psc 2400 series printer to print? my hplip toolbox is saying connection error but it sees it
[03:29] <arialth> pelo: it is possible, once i have the servers set up, to create a floppy that forces the machine to netboot where i tell it to? Because i do not have access to the system to alter those options. I have the box right next to me lol this is frustrating ^^
[03:29] <FlashWolf> rich_freecomm: :D
[03:29] <farzad> im totally new to ubuntu
[03:29] <farzad> just tell me exactly how and what to do please
[03:29] <ouellettesr> can anyone help me with bluetooth?
[03:29] <Pelo> farzad,  check in admin > restricted driver ,  see if there is a ddriver for you there
[03:29] <fbc> Pelo, HELP!! After about 5 minutes with open office open my machine freezes(hard). No CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or DEL works. Only reset. This is a clean install, not an upgrade.
[03:29] <cptnymo> hi all
[03:29] <Pelo> arialth, you are realy not asking the right person, I'm just a home user
[03:29] <flyback> mishou: how long you had that nick?
[03:29] <fbc> Pelo, yes the checkmark for java is there but there is no path specified.
[03:29] <nwidger> CygnusX1: well everything else is working fine for me, what's been breaking for other people?
[03:30] <cptnymo> im having a problem updating
[03:30] <farzad> pelo
[03:30] <CygnusX1> nwidger: java, openoffice, hibernate/sleep, X
[03:30] <arialth> pelo: ah thats cool. This is a whole new experience from me but i need to learn it
[03:30] <Pelo> fbc, take it off,  also check the /var/log/syslog file look toward the end, see if anyting special happends
[03:30] <cptnymo> i just went from 7.10 to 8.04 and now it says it wont fetch
[03:30] <daaku> anyone know of a way to compare mtimes of 2 files in a shell script?
[03:30] <arialth> pelo i'll figure it out heh
[03:30] <farzad> I went to admin and hardware drivers
[03:30] <dabbill> how can i rename a mounted drive icon on my desktop? It just lables it as the size of the drive.
[03:30] <farzad> basically there is no component
[03:30] <Pelo> arialth, lucky you , a learning expreience
[03:30] <Tim1> i have 1.1G available but update complain about space :(
[03:30] <farzad> and nothing there pelo
[03:30] <nwidger> CygnusX1: ah :\
[03:30] <gnomefreak> cptnymo: please explain the issue in more detail like errors/warnings so someone can help you
[03:30] <dettymac> whats that ubuntu site that has the automated installs of codecs and stuff?
[03:31] <eternal_p> Tim1: could it be complaning about /boot rather than / ?
[03:31] <dettymac> auto something
[03:31] <ouellettesr> bluetooth anyone?
[03:31] <Pelo> farzad, you 'll need to try and install the binary driver then
[03:31] <ouellettesr> lol
[03:31] <dettymac> anyone remember? the name?
[03:31] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: try a fresh start...reset routers, modems, hubs, computer
[03:31] <farzad> how ?
[03:31] <Pelo> !ati > farzad check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:31] <cptnymo> ok let me get it
[03:31] <earlh> does anyone know why it now takes so much longer to log off in hardy vs gutsy
[03:31] <mib_dxcixe> Can anybody please help me with a newb question?
[03:31] <ouellettesr> !bluetooth
[03:31] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:31] <cptnymo> rich, i did restart everything
[03:31] <yowshi> i am looking for a 32bit version of the svg_loader.so library that i can install on an amd64
[03:31] <jerbear> i can't manage users and groups anymore with hardy... what gives?
[03:31] <Lolitsgriff> Wow, Lots of people online.
[03:31] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: oh :(
[03:31] <Darre1> anyone with a good LOGMEIN solution for linux? ... don't say VNC, unless you can get me through firewalls, nats, etc, and make it secure.
[03:31] <Tim1> eternal_p: im going to paste what it says u on pastebin
[03:31] <dragon64> whats your question mib
[03:31] <eternal_p> jerbear: not being very specific
[03:31]  * Pelo needs to learn to be mean and nasty from the ppl in #debian,  so fewer ppl will ask him questions
[03:32] <leviwink1> Hello
[03:32] <LoganHoup> lolitsgriff, mostly from problems upgrading to hardy
[03:32] <Pelo> jerbear, hit the unloc button at the bottom
[03:32] <shane2peru> how do I shutoff automount usb drive in hardy?
[03:32] <mib_dxcixe> I've just installed Ubuntu on my desktop (alongside it) And I want to know how to boot into it
[03:32] <leviwink1> I cant get sound to work in wine
[03:32] <jerbear> eternal_p: everything is greyed out... including the unlock button
[03:32] <cptnymo> Failed to fetch http://kr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release.gpg
[03:32] <jerbear> Pelo: it's greyed out
[03:32] <Pelo> shane2peru, rightcilck unmount
[03:32] <leviwink1> the wine people said that my alsa cfg is wrong
[03:32] <Pelo> jerbear, yes,  click on it
[03:32] <leviwink1> and I should ask here
[03:32]  * arvind_khadri Pelo #debian is mean to Ubuntu and Ubunteros ;)
[03:32] <shane2peru> Pelo, I don't want it to mount it when I plug it in
[03:32] <dragon64> did you install it in its own partition or on a windows partition
[03:32] <CygnusX1> Darre1: use ssh with vnc
[03:32] <cptnymo> i get about 12 different of these
[03:32] <Lolitsgriff> Aaah. I haven't had much problems. Aside from some hardware issues w/ my microphone. I just came here to read and relax n___n
[03:32] <jerbear> Pelo: it's greyed out... unclickable
[03:32] <plinde> tim1: did you check your apt cache
[03:32] <mib_dxcixe> On a windows Partition
[03:32] <nwidger> anyone know how to turn off the new 'smart' address bar in firefox 3?
[03:32] <shane2peru> Pelo, I'm trying to recover a bad hdd, via usb
[03:33] <Darre1> cygnus, wha'ts the best method?
[03:33] <leviwink1> These are my errors: http://pastebin.com/m5c7c617c
[03:33] <dragon64> you should be able to reboot, there should be a new menu
[03:33] <Tim1> eternal_p: plinde no now. i did run sudo apt-get auto-clean
[03:33] <Darre1> do i forward ports?
[03:33] <dragon64> arrow to ubuntu and hit enter
[03:33] <mib_dxcixe> Well when I rebooted it just loads windows
[03:33] <ienorand> Pelo: nope, back to original settings now and still same old... will flesh out my bug report with this stuff and go whine in the forums to...
[03:33] <Pelo> shane2peru, err , chck in the nautilus prefs under the edit menu
[03:33] <dragon64> by default windows
[03:33] <eternal_p> ! :)
[03:33] <dragon64> if you watch you will see a menu hopefully
[03:33] <farzad> pelo
[03:33] <mib_dxcixe> okay
[03:33] <dragon64> catch it and select ubuntu
[03:33] <cameron> anybody have any suggestions on making a headless torrent download box?
[03:33] <Pelo> farzad, what ?
[03:33] <mib_dxcixe> I will try again and return if it doesn't work dragon
[03:34] <shane2peru> Pelo, ok, it used to be under System -> Prefs -> removable devices, however that isn't it now.
[03:34] <farzad> is it the only driver that i need to install pelo ?
[03:34] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: if it means anything...it ain't doing anything over here either
[03:34] <earlh> use vnc and ssh
[03:34] <farzad> i havent installed any driver myself
[03:34] <fbc> Pelo, there are no errors in /var/log/syslog at the time of the crash. I guess that is how hard it went down.. I'm going to open another instance of open office and keep my fingers crossed the machine does not freeze after a couple of minutes.
[03:34] <Pelo> cameron, rtorent
[03:34] <farzad> i thought ubuntu install drivers itself
[03:34] <cptnymo> maybe the server is down?
[03:34] <yowshi> stupid second life beta client no amd64 version
[03:34] <ab> Hi all, upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy and my wireless doesn't work anymore. Has somobody found the same problem?
[03:34] <jerbear> i can't manage users and groups anymore with hardy... the unlock button is greyed out... what do i do?
[03:34] <cameron> pelo: am i able to add, remove, etc. through a browser?
[03:34] <Tim1> omg i was told its going to be ok ............... [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/log/dist-upgrade'
[03:34] <Darre1> earlh: how do you then connect vnc after sshing?
[03:34] <Pelo> farzad, there is a driver for your video card that you can install that will let you get 3d destkop ,  check in the instructions ubotu gave you
[03:34] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: wouldn't be surprised, with all the traffic they musta been getting
[03:34] <leith> hi, i have just installed my wireless network card driver, and i need help in connecting to my network
[03:34] <dettymac> anyone know if automatix supports hardy yet?
[03:35] <Pelo> cameron, sorry , I'M getting confused  here , what,s your issue again ?
[03:35] <farzad> but you know it was working before !!!!!
[03:35] <leviwink1> Help, no sound in wine .60 . Hardy Heron. P5N32-E SLI Plus intergrated sound. The wine people told me that my wine cfg is messed up and I should ask you guys. These are my errors: http://pastebin.com/m5c7c617c.
[03:35] <Pelo> dettymac,  there will not be an automatix for hardy
[03:35] <cptnymo> ok i have one more question :)
[03:35] <shane2peru> dettymac, please don't use automatix, it is not supported by Ubuntu
[03:35] <cameron> pelo: wanting a headless torrent application that will let me control it from another computer, preferably through a browser
[03:35] <Pelo> leviwink1, type winecfg and select your autio from the sound tab
[03:35] <Killeroid> cameron: deluge, has a webui
[03:36] <leviwink1> Pelo: Yes, I did. It says audio test failed.
[03:36] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: I was trying to find out if the ISO CD burn would have the option to upgrade on it...but I got nothing back...so..probably not
[03:36] <Pelo> cameron, no idea ,  rtorrent throught ssh maybe ?
[03:36] <cptnymo> when i use flash on firefox the volume slider doesnt work at all
[03:36] <cameron> killeroid: thanks i'll check that out
[03:36] <dettymac> shane2peru,  is there something similiar to automatix
[03:36] <jerbear> can anyone else manage users and groups in hardy?????
[03:36] <Pelo> leviwink1, what audio device did you select ?
[03:36] <CygnusX1> Darre1: see if this helps you: http://www.brainonfire.net/2006/08/21/vnc-over-ssh/
[03:36] <cameron> pelo: thanks for your help
[03:36] <leviwink1> alsa
[03:36] <farzad> pelo
[03:36] <leviwink1> pelo: alsa
[03:36] <zcat[1]> dettymac: apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:36] <farzad> Pelo i dont have this option  later
[03:36] <farzad> The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Restricted Driver Manager from System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu
[03:36] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: hmm...gonna try that..hold
[03:36] <Pelo> leviwink1, tried the others ?
[03:36] <shane2peru> dettymac, what do you need installed, it is better to learn how to install the things you need, and know what goes on your system.
[03:37] <farzad> i dont have any Restriced driver option
[03:37] <leith> i have just installed my wireless network card driver, and i need help in connecting to my network, anyone?
[03:37] <leviwink1> yes, they all fail
[03:37] <Darre1> Cygnus, i will check this out... thanks!
[03:37] <Pelo> farzad, read further down
[03:37] <cptnymo> i think i may have picked the wrong flash plug in for firefox in the beginning, but i can figure out how to change it
[03:37] <dragon64> jerbear i can
[03:37] <Lolitsgriff> Hum, I don't want to sound redundant, but while I'm here I might as well ask. Has anyone else had problems w/ microphones and such in Hardy?
[03:37] <dragon64> sounds like a permission issue
[03:37] <shane2peru> Pelo, that did it, thanks!
[03:37] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: my volume works ok on youtube...
[03:37] <Tim1> eternal_p please find enclosed a log file http://pastebin.com/m66c27d54
[03:37] <pen> what is the best office suit program ever on linux?
[03:37] <leviwink1> Pelo, I tried them, they all fail
[03:37] <dettymac> shaneperu, i just want to install codecs for video playback
[03:37] <jerbear> dragon64: what could it be? i just did a fresh install?
[03:37] <pen> suite
[03:38] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: lemee see what I gots
[03:38] <Pelo> Lolitsgriff, type alsamixer in the terminal , select capture form the top ,  and set the level up and make sure they are not muted
[03:38] <dragon64> thats odd
[03:38] <Lolitsgriff> Alrighty.
[03:38] <Lolitsgriff> I'll try that.
[03:38] <dragon64> not sure
[03:38] <farzad> PELO DARLING im reading this i just dont have this option resiricted driver manager
[03:38] <enaner> what does amd64 mean?
[03:38] <Pelo> !sound > leviwink1 review your sound configuration with the check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:38] <nwidger> wow firefox is really, really annoying.  i cant do anything for more than 3 seconds without it hanging up for 2 seconds
[03:38] <farzad> there is no such thing on my system administration
[03:38] <zcat[1]> !info non-free-codecs
[03:38] <ubotu> Package non-free-codecs does not exist in hardy
[03:38] <zcat[1]> Weird..
[03:38] <Lolitsgriff> How exactly do I select it? This is my second day using Linux.. so The terminal is still new to me.
[03:39] <Lolitsgriff> I've tried clicking lol n __n
[03:39] <dragon64> try creating a new user from the command line and see if he has better luck
[03:39] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: I do remember that I installed the 'Ubuntu Extras' package that basically covered a bunch of those non-free things
[03:39] <Pelo> farzad, ifyou don' thve the fist options you go to the next part where it tells you how to install a driver you get from the internet
[03:39] <zcat[1]> !medibuntu
[03:39] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:39] <Tim1> help me http://pastebin.com/m66c27d54
[03:39] <RunKidRun> Pelo, can i boot into a live cd and try to upgrade the system from there?
[03:39] <leith> anyone can help me connect to wireless network, I am not able to see any networks, but my network driver is installed
[03:39] <cptnymo> how do you do that rich?
[03:39] <zcat[1]> weird cos I have a non-free-codecs package here.. anyone know what repo that was in?
[03:39] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why after upgrading to hardy it deleted some of my programs
[03:40] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: I did it through Synaptic.   just search for Ubuntu Extras   (make sure your repositories are set to everything imaginable) :D
[03:40] <dragon64> they may have been incompatable with hardy
[03:40] <Pelo> RunKidRun, not sure , never done it , there are a lotof new optons on the live cd upgrade migth be avaialbe but I'm not sure  , it use to be you could only upgrade from the alternate install cd , but not by booting from it ,  try it , see whathappens
[03:40] <Bidget> weak
[03:40] <cptnymo> hmmm lemme try
[03:40] <Lolitsgriff> yeah, I'm not quite sure how to enable Capture..
[03:40] <cptnymo> may not work with the servers down
[03:40] <Crshman> how do i turn off compiz from the CLI?
[03:40] <Crshman> which files do i edit?
[03:40] <farzad> PELO it says 7.04 and later
[03:40] <farzad> The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Restricted Driver Manager from System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu .
[03:40] <Lolitsgriff> want my soundchip/Soundcard info?
[03:40] <leviwink1> Pelo, my sound is selected as alsa. Sound also works outside of wine perfectly
[03:40] <farzad> mine is 8.04
[03:41] <Bidget> well when I updated it deleted xmms, but I went into synaptic and told it to install xmms2, but I can't find it anywhere...
[03:41] <Pelo> Lolitsgriff, abotu the 3rd or 4th line down , navigagte with the tab key and use the arrows
[03:41] <farzad> i should have this option
[03:41] <Lolitsgriff> Oh! Tab
[03:41] <Lolitsgriff> oh haha.
[03:41] <Lolitsgriff> Thank you.
[03:41] <^cup^o^kofi> ubuntu's great... installed easily with virtualbox :)
[03:41] <crdlb> Crshman: if you use the Failsafe Gnome session, compiz will not start
[03:41] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[03:41] <enaner> Pelo, I was installing UBUNTU on mY INSPIRON 5000, (a really old laptop) and it said * Loading ACPI modules... and then it froze
[03:41] <Pelo> leviwink1, are you on 8.04,   check in the forum on how toremvoe  pulseaudio it migth be an issue
[03:41] <Crshman> crdlb: thanks
[03:41] <chemosi> one question
[03:41] <dettymac> what is a good news reader ? anyone got a suggestion
[03:41] <farzad> Pelo any idea ?
[03:41] <dettymac> downloading NZBs mostly
[03:42] <american> the update information says:  the Xgl server will now be started automatically nex ttime you login....please select a regular session from your session manager next time you login."
[03:42] <american> how do i do this?
[03:42] <cptnymo> ah i changed my server from south korea to the US and it lets me update now
[03:42] <chemosi> how to install screem
[03:42] <Killeroid> dettymac: use pan newsreader
[03:42] <Lolitsgriff> Nothing is Muted. I don't even think it's registering that I have  amicrophone..  The input slots are just registered as 'Mic, Line, Front Mic'...
[03:42] <chemosi> i have
[03:42] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: excellent!
[03:42] <Pelo> enaner, boot the cd again,  hit f6 ,  add noacpi  to the command and hit enter ( I think )
[03:42] <chemosi> .tar.gz
[03:42] <Killeroid> dettymac: or try nzbget
[03:42] <biabia> I figured out my problem with my install, all my hard drive device names were changed so they were wrong in my fstab, i just had to manually mount them and edit the fstab
[03:43] <Pelo> farzad, read on ,  the next part tells you how to install a driver from the internet
[03:43] <farzad> i know
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> !info gxmms2 | Bidget
[03:43] <ubotu> bidget: gxmms2 (source: gxmms2): xmms2 client for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-1.1 (hardy), package size 56 kB, installed size 188 kB
[03:43] <farzad> but why i dont have the option
[03:43] <plinde> tim1: you need more disk space; you can create that dir if it complains. sudo mkdir dist-upgrade
[03:43] <Bidget> IndyGunFreak, I already installed that, it doesnt work
[03:43] <farzad> it says 7.04 or later
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[03:43] <shane2peru> is it possible that hardy mounts my usb harddrive too fast, and that is why it doesn't work?
[03:43] <Bidget> IndyGunFreak, so I'm installing xmms2-core or something
[03:43] <farzad> so i should have
[03:43] <farzad> I SHOOOOOOOOOOULD have
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bidget: have you looked at audacious?
[03:43] <farzad> this option
[03:43] <FloodBot2> farzad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <Bidget> IndyGunFreak, no
[03:43] <dettymac> killeroid , thanks ill look both up
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bidget: why do you need xmms2?
[03:43] <shane2peru> icesword, oh, testdisk, wasn't quite the ticket, gddrescue is more along the lines I need, thanks for the info though.
[03:43] <farzad> OK Flood bot 2
[03:44] <Bidget> IndyGunFreak, because I want to listen to music...?
[03:44] <Pelo> farzad,  pay attention,   the first part tell you how to use the option in restricted driver, if you do not have the option in restricted driver you read the second part where it tells you another way to do it , wherer you do not need the opton in restricted driver ,
[03:44] <farzad> but i should have this option it says 7.04 or later for god sake 7.04 and later
[03:44] <farzad> The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Restricted Driver Manager from System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu .
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> Bidget: audaciou is very similar to xmms.. and is still supported
[03:44] <icesword> shane2peru: ok, ddrescue
[03:44] <farzad> i should have this option but i dont have
[03:44] <Bidget> IndyGunFreak, ok
[03:44] <harushimo> i'm just curious would regionset be a good program to use to play encrypted dvds
[03:44] <farzad> NO
[03:44] <dragon64> vlc har
[03:44] <farzad> i DONT HAVE RESTRICTED DRIVER
[03:44] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: anyhow, try the ubuntu-restricted-extras when you are able and see if that clears up stuff with your flash-poo
[03:44] <Pelo> farzad, yo do not have it because there is no restricted dfivef or your card <
[03:44] <farzad> i cant even have access to it
[03:44] <harushimo> vlc doesn't work either
[03:44] <harushimo> I can't it to play
[03:44] <farzad> Ok
[03:45] <farzad> now i understand abit pelo
[03:45] <farzad> now give me a link please
[03:45] <farzad> :D
[03:45] <shane2peru> icesword, just for the record. :)
[03:45] <Pelo> farzad, so go and read the guide again and go to the part where it tells you how to install the driver you need from the internet
[03:45] <harushimo> how do I play it on vlc dragon64
[03:45] <Pelo> !ati > farzad check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:45] <plinde> better than the first?
[03:45] <tgm4883_laptop> how do you start Screens & Graphics from the command line?
[03:46] <vanzemaljac> hiiiii
[03:46] <dettymac> killeroid, does PAN support SSL connections?
[03:46] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: hellppp :)
[03:46] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: lol i havent goten help from u on that LCD monitor yet :(
[03:46] <reasons> what's wrong with it?
[03:46] <vanzemaljac> would anyone help me fix a problem with external monitor.. ubuntu is not
[03:46] <vanzemaljac> likeing it
[03:46] <Pelo> later folks
[03:46] <enaner> pelo, what's your favorite thing to do on ubuntu that you can't do on windows and stuff
[03:46] <vanzemaljac> well i have a laptop.. ubuntu is installed on it.. but when i connect lcd screen to it... once it boots up i cant see nothing but tons of different colors flieing everywhere
[03:46] <cptnymo> wow 90 updates when just a sec ago it said up to date: amazing xD
[03:47] <Killeroid> dettymac: unfortunately no
[03:47] <ab> Broadcom wireless doesn't work in Hardy. Anybody know to solve it?
[03:47] <cptnymo> thanks rich xD
[03:47] <enaner> Guys, what's your favorite thing to do on ubuntu that you can't do on windows and stuff
[03:47] <Killeroid> dettymac: i think nzbget does though
[03:47] <vanzemaljac> reasons: any idea?
[03:47] <cptnymo> enaner: the repositories
[03:47] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: did it give you an upgrade button on the top of the update manager window?
[03:47] <reasons> have you tried to configure your xorg.conf for dual display or are you trying to replicate the same image on a second monitor
[03:47] <dettymac> killeroid: i dont see that one in the repos
[03:47] <vanzemaljac> reasons: i can see everything on the screen up untill login screen
[03:47] <vanzemaljac> reasons: havent done much but mess wit hthe settings under screens and display
[03:47] <schnootop> hello has anyone run into "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available." when going to screen resolution ?
[03:48] <cptnymo> rich, no i just checked manually after changing to the US server
[03:48] <vanzemaljac> reasons: nothing else then that...
[03:48] <Lolitsgriff> Hum....
[03:48] <reasons> well are you going for a dual head display or replicating what is on the laptop screen?
[03:48] <Teslaman> Hey all, tried installing heron on an older but able machine, popped a brand new 500gb had in it, when i got to boot I gett Grub 1.5 please wait loading then error 18
[03:48] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: you are still in 7.10 thgough, right?
[03:48] <vanzemaljac> reasons: whatever is easier.. i dont mind duel.. i dont even look at the other one
[03:48] <InfernoX222> hello all
[03:49] <american> how do i disable Xgl autostart?
[03:49] <cptnymo> no im in 8.04
[03:49] <pen> how to mount bin file directly??
[03:49] <ZiggyFish_laptop> hey, how do you play asx media in firefox
[03:49] <dettymac> nevermind, found it on sourceforge, thanks
[03:49] <reasons> what is the graphics card
[03:49] <cptnymo> i burned the iso and totally reinstalled it
[03:49] <InfernoX222> does neone know how to roll back drivers to the hardy default? i tried to install some nvidia drivers and now my rez wont go about 800x600 (and that took ALOT of fussing)
[03:49] <vanzemaljac> reasons: nvidia go 7600
[03:49] <Tim1> how do i upgrade with terminal
[03:49] <rich_freecomm> cptnymo: oh ok...heh     Remove:  Brain_fart from rich_freecomm
[03:49] <pen> how to mount bin/cue file directly??
[03:49] <biabia> I see a lot of troubleshooting, which is awesome, but I am wondering if hardy has any new features or is it mostly fixes and stabilization/improvement on older features
[03:50] <enaner> what are repositories
[03:50] <Jason> Hey, I'm having a big problem with 8.04. Whenever i exit certain programs, and open a gnome-terminal, it shows up as a white box, and then gnome crashes.
[03:50] <reasons> I'm assuming you've installed the restricted drivers. If so, have you tried playing with the nvidia settings tool
[03:50] <Teslaman> anyone familiar with Grub 1.5    error 18?
[03:50] <shane2peru> anyone every use ddrescue?
[03:50] <brad2017> dettymac - here is a decent ssl and usenet how-to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-324710.html
[03:50] <vanzemaljac> reasons: havent been playing with the card settings, how would i do that
[03:50] <neeto> In 7.10, the xfce system tray used to direct me to the corresponding program, even if it was on another window. Now in 8.04, the system tray no longer links me to the main window of the application... is there a way I can get this working again?
[03:50] <leith> i have just installed my wireless network card driver, and i need help in connecting to my network
[03:50] <Killeroid> dettymac: yeah, nzbget is not in the repos, you need to manually compile, i think there are some debs floating around the interwebs
[03:50] <InfernoX222> reasons: the screen was so small i could barly click the button and the max rez that the nvidia tool said before is 800x600 and now i dont get the same tool i had before
[03:51] <pen> leith: it's not good to install with mdiswrapper
[03:51] <shane2peru> opps, I mean anyone ever use ddrescue?
[03:51] <pen> ndis
[03:51] <pen> how to mount bin/cue file directly??
[03:51] <enaner> what are restricted drivers?
[03:51] <enaner> and why should i get them?
[03:51] <shane2peru> !restricted drivers | enaner
[03:51] <leith> pen, y? my card wasn't supported
[03:51] <InfernoX222> hold on my x server isnt started... ill need to turn that back on
[03:51] <reasons> what tool are you talking about?
[03:51] <SeaPhor> how do i run ./command commands in terminal?
[03:51] <shane2peru> !restricted
[03:51] <reasons> What exactly have you done so far
[03:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:51] <InfernoX222> the nvidia one
[03:51] <InfernoX222> ok
[03:51] <Teslaman> Does anyone know of a Grub specific channel?
[03:51] <Dr_willis> enaner,  they are 'restricted' in the sence that ubuntu cant include them due to nvidia/ati/other companies putting restrictions on them.
[03:52] <vanzemaljac> reasons: im lost now lol
[03:52] <Sp0tteh> can anyone help me out with mdadm?????
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Teslaman,  the grub homepage has a lot of docs/troubleshooting guides/info
[03:52] <vanzemaljac> what do i do?
[03:52] <reasons> starting over, lol. What have you done to this point?
[03:52] <vanzemaljac> nothing
[03:52] <vanzemaljac> simple install lol
[03:52] <Teslaman> Dr_willis can u point me in the direction of the grub homepage
[03:52] <farzad> hey PELO
[03:52] <Bidget> how do I set it on random or repeat in audacious?
[03:52] <farzad> my last question
[03:52] <shane2peru> ok, I'm out of here, cya later everyone. :)
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Teslaman,  google.com - type in 'grub homepage'
[03:52] <griffin_> yeah, no avail with umuting the mux's and stuff... they were the only muted things in the alsamixer.
[03:53] <Dr_willis> !grub Teslaman
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub teslaman - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <farzad> Is there anyway that i can get ubuntu to its preinstalled configuration ?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub Teslaman
[03:53] <reasons> okay, run nvidia-config or nvidia-settings. I forget which as I haven't used a Nvidia card in forever. It should give you some options, what are they?
[03:53] <diego> brasil
[03:53] <farzad> i.e. to remove all the packages that i have installed myself
[03:53] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | Teslaman
[03:53] <ubotu> Teslaman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:53] <pen> !bin
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <vanzemaljac> reasons: not sure i gota go boot into ubuntu
[03:53] <vanzemaljac> reasons: ill be right back gonna switch machines this to mirc other ubuntu brb ill try both
[03:54] <Teslaman> ubotu, my problem is when i load up, I get a grub error, error 18, any ideas about what it is?
[03:54] <ezzieyguywu1> how do i report a bug in hardy?
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Teslaman,  ubotu is a bot. I imagine the grub homepage/google will tell you exactly what error 18 means.
[03:54] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why my minimize animations dont work in hardy?
[03:55] <vanzemaljac> reasons: brbr
[03:55] <reasons> k
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Teslaman,  check out the urls mentioned in the !fixgrub factoid also.
[03:55] <ZiggyFish_laptop> ubitu: will them links about restricted multimedia allow me to play asx files
[03:55] <xkcdr0ckz> so after 10x attempts to fixed ATI drivers for Hardy, i used FailSafe Gnome session, my desktop experience is faster.... How do i keep these default settings as the normal login session and still use CompizFusion?
[03:55] <pawan> hi
[03:56] <ZiggyFish_laptop> ubotu: will them links about restricted multimedia allow me to play asx files
[03:56] <its|tkots199|> lets all get r groove on
[03:56] <its|tkots199|> lmao
[03:56] <Sp0tteh> im stuck.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769817    hoping someone has some idea with whats going on :)
[03:57] <Teslaman> Dr_willis thanks
[03:57] <xkcdr0ckz> i guess i cant use several apps without Compiz (ex: 'Avant Window Navigator' wont load)
[03:57] <ezzieyguywu1> how do i report a bug in hardy?
[03:57] <rootyrooty> Hi, How Do I UNmount my ipod? I don'thave permissionsl..........
[03:57] <its|tkots199|> anyone know where to go to get my totem movie player to play .mp3's
[03:58] <Zelta> its|tkots199: medibuntu?
[03:58] <pawan> how to install nvidia graphics card drivers
[03:58] <its|tkots199|> medibunt?
[03:58] <dragon64> spot did you try replacing that long string of numbers with /dev/hd ....
[03:58] <DJDarkstar> hi, just installed 8.04 and can't find /home/$USERNAME/.fonts folder anyone know where the font folder is?
[03:58] <dragon64> sometimes that better
[03:58] <its|tkots199|> ok
[03:58] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why my minimize animations dont work in hardy?
[03:58] <Sp0tteh> yea i did dragon64
[03:58] <its|tkots199|> ill set as default
[03:59] <harushimo> i'm running 7.10 how do I upgrade to 8.04
[03:59] <griffin_> Bidget do you have your graphics set to extra? thats the only idea I would imagine.
[03:59] <harushimo> do I need to download the iso
[03:59] <crdlb> Bidget: did you press the reset button on that page in ccsm?
[03:59] <pawan> how to update grub
[03:59] <MrLinux> It is posible to install DirectX 9c on Ubuntu ? To run games designed for Windows ?
[03:59] <DJDarkstar> you can do it via  the update manager
[03:59] <Odd-rationale> !upgrade | harushimo
[03:59] <ubotu> harushimo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:59] <Bidget> harushimo, go to system>administration>update manager
[03:59] <jerbear> there's a file in my home folder, .gvfs that give an error "transport endpoint is not connected" when i do an ls... what's going on?
[03:59] <pawan> i installed hardy but in grub it is showing 7.10
[03:59] <Bidget> griffin_, yes I do, everything else works except for the minimize animations
[03:59] <Bidget> crdlb, I'll give that a shot, thanks
[03:59] <DJDarkstar> there should be an option telling you of the new distro
[03:59] <griffin_> Aah. I'm not good with linux yet, but that was my only guess. Sorry! D:
[03:59] <nick_> whats something cool i can do with ubuntu
[04:00] <nick_> feel like cahnging something
[04:00] <Bidget> crdlb, where is the reset button...??
[04:00] <nick_> customize it
[04:00] <dragon64> spot does dmesg give you any more information?
[04:00] <DJDarkstar> Anyone seen the Font folder, i can't find it where I thought it would be
[04:00] <neon> any gotten the webcam on an asus laptop to work?
[04:00] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i keep my FailSafe Gnome (default) settings as a normal session and still use Compiz <composite ext.>?
[04:00] <DJDarkstar> neon, try installing cheese
[04:01] <crdlb> Bidget: it's a broom icon, just below the list of minimize effect matches
[04:01] <_derspankster> I cannot play avi off my server with vlc. Totem plays them fine but I'd rather use vlc.
[04:01] <pawan> hello
[04:01] <Bidget> crdlb, k
[04:01] <Makgyver> ok, this is frustrating the heck out of me
[04:01] <dabbill> How can i rename a drive thats auto mounted? its displaying as 60.0 GB Media would like to rename it.
[04:01] <DJDarkstar> hi
[04:01] <Makgyver> I have just blownaway the PowerMac, and reistalled n a freshly formatted disk Mac OS X Tiger
[04:01] <Bidget> crdlb, didn't work :(
[04:01] <crdlb> xkcdr0ckz: oh, so the regular session is slow even with compiz _not_ running?
[04:02] <ripps> How do I properly install sound in Ubuntu 8.04 Custom Kernel 8.04? When I installed Alsa from the kernel, my volume mixer is all over the place and impossible to control.
[04:02] <Sp0tteh> i cant get into a normal shell.. i can only get a busybox promt and so i cant run dmesg. i got the output of those files by mounting the file system on a live cd
[04:02] <razel> what application should i use to test my built-in webcam in my laptop?
[04:02] <Makgyver> I am now trying to install Ubuntu, but I keep ending up in (initramfs) when booting from the 7.1 live CD
[04:02] <Makgyver> can someone please offer some assistance
[04:02] <ripps> How do I properly install sound in Ubuntu 8.04 Custom Kernel 2.6.25? When I installed Alsa from the kernel, my volume mixer is all over the place and impossible to control.
[04:02] <neon> DJDarkstar: it worked thanks
[04:02] <timandtom> What would differ if I did a clean 7.10 install, then IMMEDIATELY afterwards, updated to 8.04, instead of doing a clean 8.04 install? I want to update, but 8.04 has issues with my wireless card, namely, it not working, whereas 7.10 has the restricted drivers right out of the box.
[04:02] <AdemoS> Is this the correct place to ask about Ubuntu Studio? Or is a there a sepearate support channel?
[04:03] <DJDarkstar> neon, no prob
[04:03] <xkcdr0ckz> @crddlb: Yes, extremely. i didnt have any problems with 7.10 then i upgraded and new xorg config or new compiz extensions slowed my desktop.
[04:03] <MystaMax> hello, quick question. when adding entries to fstab, does the folder have to be created beforehand???
[04:03] <crdlb> xkcdr0ckz: ok, uninstall xserver-xgl
[04:03] <HardyOne> AdemoS: #ubuntu-studio
[04:03] <jrib> MystaMax: yes
[04:03] <AdemoS> HardyOne, thanks
[04:03] <prav33n> Hello
[04:04] <MystaMax> jrib: thx
[04:04] <MystaMax> trying now
[04:04] <milly1234> I am having crackling sounds in the sound when I am playing games and stuff with alot of sound in 8.04, is this a known issue? and is there a fix?
[04:04] <neon> next question how about the fingerprint reader? i know is probably a long shot is that last thing i need to get to work
[04:04] <xkcdr0ckz> i have been fixing the ATI drivers or atleast trying to use the Mesa driver but no luck, until i noticed i'm running something i shouldnt with my normal session.
[04:04] <prav33n> Is there a way to sync Nike+ (Apple iPod) data from Linux?
[04:04] <xkcdr0ckz> i want to weed it out.
[04:04] <erikk> Ok, so I installed the restricted nvidia drivers on a fresh install of ubuntu but how can I make ubuntu recognize my native 1366x768? It skips it and goes from 1024x768 to higher ones
[04:05] <griffin_> hum.
[04:05] <griffin_> The alsamixer is showing that everything is fine, but my skype is only picking up static. is this a problem on my hardware or on linux?
[04:05] <griffin_> cause my Mic worked fine on Vista..
[04:05] <Tim1> can any one help i cant upgrade becouse its complians about space, i have more then enough space, 1.6GB
[04:06] <bentonc> How can I set up a OSS device as a sink in pulse audio?
[04:06] <xkcdr0ckz> @crdlb: xserver-xgl isnt installed. atleast i checked my app name.
[04:06] <HardyOne> Tim1: 1.6GB is no where near enough
[04:06] <Gman99999> I hate to ask but is there anyone who knows how to use visudo?  Im trying to add firestarter to run on start up and i can't seem to figure out how to save the file or even edit it properply I dont know how to close it and I keep on opening it up and it gives me a message saying its already open which is rather annoying, how can i fix that?
[04:06] <xkcdr0ckz> maybe i checked wrong.
[04:06] <crdlb> xkcdr0ckz: check with apt-cache policy xserver-xgl
[04:07] <Tim1>  HardyOne: its the best i can give
[04:07] <crdlb> (and look at the installed: line)
[04:07] <cmm7> hi
[04:07] <justdave> so I was running a pre-release Hardy (last updated a week or so ago) and things were great.  I had Synaptic pull in the final release this morning, and now my sound doesn't work.  Anyone know where I should look to troubleshoot it?
[04:07] <pawan> i installed hardy but in grub it is showing 7.10
[04:07] <cmm7> i'm from argentina
[04:07] <ubuntung-pinoy> not sure if this the right place to ask.. i get "no route to smtp host" in Evolution mail.. i'm pretty darn sure i hav the settings right, but i could be wrong.. anyone got ideas?
[04:07] <rootyrooty> Hi, How Do I UNmount my ipod? I don'thave permissionsl..........
[04:07] <cmm7> someone speaks spanish?
[04:07] <enaner> I WANT To make a new username for my lil brother ... how do i go about doing this??
[04:07] <razel> u just wanna ask what program i sshould use to test my built-in webcam in my laptop?
[04:08] <Makgyver> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues
[04:08] <Makgyver> that does not work
[04:08] <unperson> Hi.  I'm currently running the i386 version of gusty on my machine.  The machine actually has an Athlon 64 processor, so I'd like to get the AMD64 version of hardy.  I assume this will require a new install (rather than an upgrade via the package manager).  I'm using software (mdadm) RAID0 devices for my / and /home partitions.  Will I be able to install onto my RAID0 / using the install CD or will I need the alternate CD?
[04:08] <cmm7> someone speaks spanish?
[04:08] <xkcdr0ckz> @crdlb: command to remove xserver?
[04:08] <timandtom> What would differ if I did a clean 7.10 install, then IMMEDIATELY afterwards, updated to 8.04, instead of doing a clean 8.04 install? I want to update, but 8.04 has issues with my wireless card, namely, it not working, whereas 7.10 has the restricted drivers right out of the box.'
[04:08] <xkcdr0ckz> apt-get remove ?
[04:08] <HardyOne> !es | cmm7
[04:08] <ubotu> cmm7: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:08] <Omlette> enaner: System > Administration > Users and Groups.
[04:08] <justdave> Gman99999: it uses the same commands as vi
[04:08] <cmm7> !es
[04:08] <Gman99999> justdave fiddle with the sound volume knobs right click the sound level adjuster at the top right hand corner of the screen then move the sound levels all the way down and then all the way up
[04:08] <enaner> Omlette:  then it doesn't let me create a new user from there
[04:09] <uyann> anyone knows where I can find the Ubuntu installation log files?
[04:09] <Gman99999> justdave I dont know how to use vi
[04:09] <Gman99999> justdave or how to save the damn thing
[04:09] <justdave> Gman99999: ESC to get out of the edit mode, colon (:) to go to the command line, "wq" to write/quit
[04:09] <Omlette> You tried clicking the "Add user" button?
[04:09] <justdave> on the command line you can put "q!" to quit without saving
[04:09] <Yarakyo> Does he have to be logged in as a Administrator?
[04:09] <enaner> Omlette:  yes i did ... its unclickable
[04:09] <ubuntung-pinoy> enaner: try unlock
[04:09] <crdlb> xkcdr0ckz: with sudo, yes
[04:10] <DJDarkstar> Help, I can't find my .fonts folder in my home drive, where was it moved?
[04:10] <Gman99999> justdave for some reason when i fiddled with the sound levels like that it fixed my sound
[04:10] <griffin_> Anyone know how to configure skype correctly? It's not picking up my mic now.
[04:10] <pawan> hi
[04:10] <pawan> how to update grub
[04:10] <nepal> @ find windows
[04:10] <ubuntung-pinoy> !grub | pawan
[04:10] <ubotu> pawan: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:10] <sls> how do I sync my iPod with Rhythmbox in hardy?
[04:10] <dbristow> ok, great, the MD5SUMS file has been fixed on cdimage.ubuntu.com, but not on releases.ubuntu.com yet
[04:10] <justdave> Gman99999: I fiddled a bunch in the ALSA mixer thing, but I didn't try going all the way down, I'll try that
[04:10] <nepal> @search windows
[04:10] <HardyOne> nepal: /join #windows
[04:10] <neon> next question how about the fingerprint reader? i know is probably a long shot is that last thing i need to get to work
[04:10] <sls> I can not see a sync button
[04:10] <pawan> how to update menu.lst
[04:11] <periscope> I could use some help with samba. I am at a lan, I can see the other windows computers on the network, but I can't see any files on them when I click on their icon
[04:11] <ubuntung-pinoy> sls: try having rythmbox open b4 plugging iPod in
[04:11] <pawan> it is showing 7.10 but i have 8.04
[04:11] <Gman99999> justdave yes just bring the pcm all the way down and then all the way up again, it worked like a charm
[04:11] <xkcdr0ckz> @crdlb: is it necessary to restart system or just session?
 it sees it fine... I just can not find a way to execute a sync
[04:12] <sls> ubuntung-pinoy it sees it fine... I just can not find a way to execute a sync
[04:12] <ubuntung-pinoy> sls: really not sure.. when i had my mp3 player it synced nice and easy..
[04:12] <ouellettesr> can anyone help me? Im trying to setup a blutooth phone with ubuntu, i can get it to pair, but then when I click connect i get this error:Couldn't display "obex://[00:1e:e2:14:d3:fb]".
[04:12] <Dekkard> !authorization
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about authorization - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <timandtom> What would differ if I did a clean 7.10 install, then IMMEDIATELY afterwards, updated to 8.04, instead of doing a clean 8.04 install? I want to update, but 8.04 has issues with my wireless card, namely, it not working, whereas 7.10 has the restricted drivers right out of the box.
[04:13] <exophonix> Allo ! Y'a quelqu'un ?
[04:13] <Dekkard> hmmm
[04:13] <somethingcomplex> Hi, I'm trying to continue downloading something in BitTorrent (after rebooting) and it's asking me to open location of meta file. I think this means the .torrent file, but I can't find it. It was downloaded to /tmp, but it's not there anymore. Help?
[04:13] <MrLinux> It is posible to install DirectX 9c on Ubuntu ? To run games designed for Windows ?
[04:13] <pawan> it is showing 7.10 but i have 8.04
[04:13] <Gman99999> justdave hey let me know if it works too, Im curious
[04:13] <ouellettesr> MrLinux, no
[04:13] <ripps> I'm using a custom kernel 2.6.25. Do I just reinstall the Alsa package to get sound working?
[04:13] <periscope> I could use some help with samba. I am in a lan, I can see the other windows computers on the network, but I can't see any files on them when I click on their icon
[04:13] <timandtom> somethingcomplex: Just go download the .torrent file from whatever site you found it on again.
[04:13] <nepal> Anyone know where i can download windows xp?
[04:13] <ubuntung-pinoy> MrLinux: u'v got a better chance running it in Wine
[04:13] <timandtom> somethingcomplex: Then save the file in the same spot as before, of course
[04:14] <unperson> somethingcomplex, I think if you went and downloaded a new copy of the torrent file that would suffice, but I'm not sure.
[04:14] <ubuntung-pinoy> !welcome | nepal
[04:14] <ubotu> nepal: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[04:14] <unperson> somethingcomplex, I can tell you this:
[04:14] <Dekkard> download the torrent file to your home or desktop.. or somewhere you can find and access it
[04:14] <Yarakyo> somethingcomplex: maybe you should try a different folder becuase /tmp gets wiped after a reboot
[04:14] <MrLinux> ubuntung-pinoy : I need to run a game for exemple, I can do that ?
[04:14] <timandtom> unperson: That works :) I do it all the time(Why I can't just remember to SAVE the .torrent instead I'll never know)
[04:14] <Rafabe> hi
[04:14] <chemosi> someone
[04:14] <ouellettesr> Is there no one here that knows anything about blutooth devices?
[04:14] <ubuntung-pinoy> MrLinux: check the AppDB http://www.wine-hq.org
[04:15] <pen> how to mount bin/cue file directly??
[04:15] <ubuntung-pinoy> !bluetooth | ouellettesr
[04:15] <ubotu> ouellettesr: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:15] <pen> or with cdemu?
[04:15]  * Dekkard wants to know about this new authrizations policy kit..
[04:15] <somethingcomplex> Yarakyo: Well that might explain it.
[04:15] <pen> !cdemu
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <jerbear_> is there any way to run commands when i logout?
[04:15] <Rafabe> can I control a Ubuntu 8.04 machine remotely from Windows if Ubuntu has the default install (ie, can't install software, but I could have someone change the configuration if this is possible)
[04:15] <ouellettesr> ubuntulog, yeah ive been there and did that
[04:15] <HardyOne> nepal: www.windows.com is where you can get windows.
[04:15] <ouellettesr> ubuntung-pinoy, **
[04:16] <unperson> somethingcomplex, I downloaded the ISO directly from a mirror.  Later I decided to share the wealth by running bittorrent to "download" the file I already had.  I downloaded the torrent file to the same directory as the ISO and then invoked btdownloadcurses just like I was downloading it fresh and that worked fine.
[04:16] <benny_> mmmm.. me likes Hardy Haron!
[04:16] <somethingcomplex> timandtom: I downloaded the torrent again, but it's still not visible
[04:16] <ubuntung-pinoy> MrLinux, AppDB of www.winehq.org, without the hyphen
[04:16] <Dekkard> somethingcomplex:  where did youdownload it too
[04:16] <sls> ubuntung-pinoy, on its own? No hands?
[04:16] <ripps> I'm using a custom kernel 2.6.25. Do I just reinstall the Alsa package to get sound working?
[04:16] <milly1234> I am having crackling sounds in the sound when I am playing games and stuff with alot of sound in 8.04, is this a known issue? and is there a fix?
[04:16] <somethingcomplex> Dekkard: /tmp again
[04:16] <CITguy08> can someone help me with Hardy? I cannot get the gnome desktop to load
[04:16] <benny_> or.. maybe it's just that I decided not to try the 64 bit version again.. I still think the amd64 versions are subpar.
[04:17] <Dekkard> somethingcomplex:  download it to your desktop
[04:17] <timandtom> somethingcomplex: Whadya mean not visible? Like, it's not in the temporary folder? Try saving it somewhere ELSE
[04:17] <unperson> somethingcomplex, You mean you can't find the torrent file you downloaded.
[04:17] <pawan> hi
[04:17] <nepal> !list
[04:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:17] <Yancho> I syndicate the following:
[04:17] <Yancho> MaltaPolitics.info
[04:17] <ubuntung-pinoy> sls: yep.. hav u tried Googling ur issue yet? might turn up some nice info
[04:17] <somethingcomplex> unperson: ...what?
[04:17] <sls> ubuntung-pinoy, ok --
[04:17] <Makgyver> ok thats it, time to find another OS that will install, this one will not work at all
[04:18] <unperson> somethingcomplex, You downloaded the .torrent file again, but now you can't find it on your HD?
[04:18]  * Dekkard had a absolutely boring clean install
[04:18] <Makgyver> Clearly Ubuntu is not designed for Power<acs
[04:18] <Pelo> Makgyver, sorry to hear that
[04:18] <ubuntung-pinoy> any Evolution gurus in here? i get "no route to host" error when sending mail..
[04:18] <benny_> Makgyver: Dude.. no other Linux distro matches..
[04:18] <somethingcomplex> unperson: I guess I mean the filepath indicated in the download status bar is wrong. It's just not where it says it is. It's not hidden, either
[04:18] <Pelo> Dekkard, boring ?
[04:18] <Dekkard> yeah..
[04:18] <Dekkard>  boring
[04:18] <unperson> Has anyone tried installing hardy on a system where one of the filesystems is on a software raid?
[04:18] <Dekkard>  it just installed
[04:18] <benny_> Dekkard: Yeah.. it just worked!! damn thing!! :)
[04:18] <somethingcomplex> unperson: either that, or i'm crazy
[04:19] <justdave> Gman99999: no luck, still all quiet
[04:19] <unperson> somethingcomplex, Could be both.  ;-)
[04:19] <Makgyver> benny_, really, then why does Gentoo Live CD boot fin on the PowerMac but the Ubuntu Live CD drops me to (initramfs) with no workable fix
[04:19] <Pelo> Dekkard, I think I know what you mean,  i have to come there to find stuff to fix now,  I have no problems on my end either
[04:19] <unperson> somethingcomplex, Anyway, can you try saving it somewhere else, somewhere like your Desktop?
[04:19] <chris__> anyone got tvtime to work?
[04:19] <unperson> somethingcomplex, You should be able to specify by right-clicking on the link for the .torrent file and choosing save as
[04:19] <somethingcomplex> unperson: it doesn't give me an option to download it anywhere else.. i will see if i can change the default
[04:19]  * Pelo is so bored he made a grub gfxboot theme and uploaded it to gnome-look.org today
[04:20] <benny_> Makgyver: ok... ok.. sorry.. no other x86 distro matches.. :)  never tried it on power.. does this release even support PowerPC?
[04:20] <somethingcomplex> unperson: oh!
[04:20] <Rafabe> is VNC a universal protocol? ie, can I use any VNC client to connect to Ubuntu's VNC server?
[04:20] <Dekkard> somethingcomplex:  look.. this isnt a OS thing.. this is knowing how to use a browser to download a file.. click on save as.. than choose the location.. like your Desktop or Home folder
[04:20] <rootyrooty> Pelo: Hi, How Do I UNmount my ipod? I don'thave permissionsl..........
[04:20] <Dekkard> you prolly dont have authorization to download to /temp
[04:20] <Makgyver> benny_, supposed to
[04:20] <Pelo> Rafabe,  I think vnc is for remote desktop,  I beleive ou need to use ssh to remote to an headless machine
[04:21] <unperson> somethingcomplex, Wait, was firefox just downloading the file or was it opening a bittorrent client automatically?
[04:21] <timandtom> Rafabe: What exactly do you mean? Like, will a Windows VNC client connect to an Ubuntu one?
[04:21] <Pelo> rootyrooty, terminal  > sudo umount /media/label
[04:21] <Rafabe> pelo: I can't use Windows Remote Desktop to connect to the Ubuntu machine, so what software could I use?
[04:21] <benny_> Makgyver: sorry dude.. not to stur up a ruckus here, but could you go back to leopard?
[04:21] <rootyrooty> Pelo: Thanks! am trying so
[04:21] <Gman99999> justdave do you know how to delete a file from the command line lol?
[04:21] <Rafabe> timandtom: yes. There's TightVNC, OpenVNC, RealVNC, tons of them. Will any of them work?
[04:21] <timandtom> Rafabe: Is Windows Remote Desktop VNC?
[04:21] <justdave> Gman99999: yep
[04:21] <Pelo> Rafabe, vnc ?
[04:21] <somethingcomplex> Dekkard: I am perfectly capable of using my browser, thanks. This is a BitTorrent-in-Ubuntu thing, which I admit isn't completely relevant, but thanks for your help anyway.
[04:21] <Monicker> Rafabe: those are different protocols
[04:21] <Monicker> rdp != vnc
[04:21] <Rafabe> timandtom: nope, it's RDP
[04:21] <Pelo> Rafabe, not realy somethingI am familar with
[04:21] <fbc> If you have a pentium 4 3.2 hyperthread  fixed frequency cpu, do you reall need POWERNOWD service running?
[04:21] <unperson> somethingcomplex, Because AFAIK the default behavior when it downloads is to put stuff in the Desktop directory, not /tmp.
[04:21] <somethingcomplex> unperson: I tried both
[04:21] <pawan> how to update menu.lst
[04:21] <pawan> it is showing 7.10 but i have 8.04
[04:22] <Dekkard> somethingcomplex:  than where is the .torrent file?
[04:22] <Rafabe> so which protocol does the Ubuntu remote desktop (that you configure in Preferences > Remote Desktop)? How can I access that vnc server from a Windows box?
[04:22] <Gman99999> justdave what's the command?
[04:22] <Makgyver> benny_, yes I can, but I dont want to
[04:22] <timandtom> Rafabe: Ah, yeh. Hasta be VNC. But yes, any VNC client should work.
[04:22] <justdave> Gman99999: rm
[04:22] <somethingcomplex> Dekkard: damned if i know
[04:22] <olivier__> Hi everybody!
[04:22] <Starnestommy> fbc: only if you need to change the voltage or speed of your cpus
[04:22] <timandtom> Rafabe: Ubuntu Remote Desktop uses VNC.
[04:22] <Gman99999> justdave ok yea thanks
[04:22] <Rafabe> ok, any client works...thanks
[04:22] <Pelo> fbc, powernowd is to throttle cpu freq,   if you don'T do that you don't need it
[04:22] <unperson> somethingcomplex, If it's spawning a bittorrent client then I think it'll usually put the torrent file in /tmp.
[04:22] <neon> what is a good messenger program that supports webcam? thanks
[04:22] <ubuntung-pinoy> sls: any luck yet?
[04:22] <benny_> Makgyver: just curios.. why not?  I've been having an itch to buy a mac at some point.. for shits and grins.. don't like?
[04:22] <oboy03> how do i upgrade using alternate iso
[04:22] <olivier__> I have a good question for you!
[04:22] <Rafabe> I thought each VNC was different. I didn't know it was like FTP. I got confused by all the software out there :) Thanks
[04:22] <Makgyver> I have booted the Ubuntu Live CD  for 7.1 and 6.06, both drop me to (initramfs) there MUST be a step that is not documented
[04:22] <unperson> somethingcomplex, I personally find that behavior of firefox annoying, but sais la vie, I guess.
[04:22] <dny> Is there a guide for setting up dual boot in ubuntu hardy?
[04:23] <Pelo> neon,  amsn I beleive but I'm not sure
[04:23] <Makgyver> benny_, I have 4 Macs here
[04:23] <KeithWeisshar> why is it very difficult to download the dvd version of ubuntu?
[04:23] <Pelo> Makgyver, have you trieed the latest ?
[04:23] <Monicker> Rafabe: some clients are different in the advanced features, like encryption and authentication
[04:23] <ouellettesr> ubuntung-pinoy, when trying to connect to the phone from that tutorial you sent me to I get this error: Can't get device information: Success
[04:23] <Makgyver> I am currently on Leopard
[04:23] <Monicker> but the basic protocol is the same
[04:23] <Makgyver> Pelo, I have tried them all
[04:23] <fbc> Pelo, isn't powernowd an AMD only service? I though INTEL's did not offer that only in pentium-M's.
[04:23] <KeithWeisshar> why is the server for the dvd version slow
[04:23] <justdave> speaking of Ubuntu Remote Desktop...  I notice it advertises its presence to your LAN via Bonjour/zeroconf/avahi/whatever they're calling it today.  Is there a way to edit the name it uses to advertise with?
[04:23] <Makgyver> I would rather not dowmload another 700mb on my $ if I can help it
[04:23] <Pelo> KeithWeisshar, do tit wiht torrents, it is fster,  the servers are a bit busy for ftp downloads,  with all the ppl upgrading
[04:23] <benny_> Makgyver: you try nodma?
[04:23] <KeithWeisshar> why is the dvd version only available on the cdimage server
[04:24] <Dekkard> KeithWeisshar:  seriously.. the servers are getting hammered by the galazy upgrading.. and downloading hardy
[04:24] <Makgyver> benny_, wtf is nodma
[04:24] <Dekkard> or galaxy
[04:24] <Pelo> !torrents > KeithWeisshar
[04:24] <somethingcomplex> i think i'm just going to try to find another client. i miss [mu]Torrent
[04:24] <oboy03> how do  upgrade to 8.04 using the alternate install iso
[04:24] <SeaPhor> xyzpaw, sorry, lost wireless settings, weird, had to "unlock" several times and put in passkey to get it working
[04:24] <fbc> Starnestommy, but you can't change the voltage of my type of CPU correct?? So I don't need it..
[04:24] <Rafabe> so which one do you guys suggest? RealVNC, TightVNC, or UltraVNC? All three are open-source projects.
[04:24] <KeithWeisshar> do you have a link to the dvd torrents
[04:24] <benny_> it's been a while.. but I used to have to use ide=nodma (something like that?)
[04:25] <ubuntung-pinoy> ouellettesr: is this the first time u try to sync it with any machine, or has it worked with others?
[04:25] <unperson> somethingcomplex, What client are you trying to use now?
[04:25] <Starnestommy> fbc: it's not needed
[04:25] <devnull> would anyone have any idea why ubuntu only sees one core of my dual core cpu?
[04:25] <Pelo> KeithWeisshar,  I just sent the torrent link to you in pm , from ubotu
[04:25] <Dekkard> isnt hardys default vnc client vinagre?
[04:25] <unperson> somethingcomplex, (I may have missed that part earlier)
[04:25] <Makgyver> but guys your missing the point
[04:25] <ouellettesr> ubuntung-pinoy, it worked before with my LG phone, i got a new samsung phone today
[04:25] <Rafabe> it is, dek
[04:25] <timandtom> Dekkard: Yeh, but he needs a Windows one I think
[04:25] <Makgyver> RH boots, Gentoo boots, Slax boots, OSX boots, but Ubuntu does not
[04:25] <Monicker> Rafabe: realvnc and tightvnc are both good.  I have not touched ultravnc in quite a while.
[04:25] <igoogg> where do i edit the menu "Places"?
[04:25] <Dekkard> ah.. okee.. sorry
[04:25] <Pelo> Makgyver, the point is that you are comming in here during our busy season to bitch that ubuntu is not up to your exacting standards  we get it
[04:26] <CITguy08> !greeter | CITguy08
[04:26] <Medved> Where do i find pulse audio in Hardy ?
[04:26] <Medved> I have no sound
[04:26] <somethingcomplex> unperson: BitTorrent
[04:26] <Rafabe> ok, thanks
[04:26] <Makgyver> Pelo, no the point is I have been in here all week asking for help and not getting any answers
[04:26] <Dekkard> Makgyver:  have you tried google?
[04:26] <Starnestommy> igoogg: I think it can be edited in the file manager's bookmarks menu
[04:26] <Makgyver> this is the internet mate, there is no "downtime"
[04:26] <ubuntung-pinoy> ouellettesr: make sure that the samsung works with the bluetooth device.. as to how exactly, u'll have to bark up another tree... :)
[04:26] <olivier__> I'm on Ubuntu, I've install VirtualBox, and i've installed windows XP on the virtualbox and my webcam is not working.... I see the webcam in the "My computer" and whene I w-clic on the webcam the light of webcam turn on and i juste have no image...!
[04:26] <igoogg> Starnestommy: thanks.
[04:26] <stanrick> I just installed the restricted nvidia drivers, but how can I get it to recognize my native 1366x768 resolution? it's at 1024x768 right now
[04:26] <Makgyver> Dekkard, seriously
[04:26] <ouellettesr> Makgyver, make something from popsicle sticks and toothpaste then stick it in the usb port, it will boot then
[04:27] <olivier__> do someone have a solution?
[04:27] <Dekkard> Makgyver:  very seriously...
[04:27] <Gman99999> I just ran the command top and it says there's two users and i only have a 1 user account so what does that mean?
[04:27] <Pelo> Makgyver,  there arent, all tha tmany mac users and we can only answer qustions we know something about,  we do our best,  I'm one of the busiest helpers here and I''m just a bloody home user, with no computer science training
[04:27] <razel> ubuntung_pinoy: how do i get my webcam to work?
[04:27] <Makgyver> ouellettesr, right after I blow up your mobo with a stick of gum and some lemon fresh mate
[04:27] <Dekkard> ubuntuwiki..
[04:27] <Starnestommy> Gman99999: it might include processes that are running as root
[04:27] <gaspipe1> night all
[04:27] <ouellettesr> lol @ Makgyver
[04:27] <Makgyver> Pelo, Ubuntu works fine on the other Macs
[04:27] <Pelo> olivier__, ask the ppl in #vbox how to setup the webcam in there e
[04:28] <Makgyver> standby I am going to try and boot on a PowerBook G4
[04:28] <Gman99999> starnestommy ok so how do i close the root account?
[04:28] <dusti1> does anyone have experience setting up a XFi driver?
[04:28] <unperson> somethingcomplex, I see.  So now you've got the .torrent file but you can't get it to resume the download?
[04:28] <oboy03> how do i mount iso in ubuntu
[04:28] <dny> Is there a guide for setting up dual boot in ubuntu?  I've found ones that require having xp first, then installing ubuntu, but i'd like to do it the other way around.
[04:28] <Dekkard> is there a power pc version of hardy?
[04:28] <benny_> Makgyver: good luck
[04:28] <olivier__> Pelo, thanks!
[04:28] <Starnestommy> Gman99999: closing all of root's processes will cause a crash.  Also, I was incorrect, top lists all logins, including x and terminal logins
[04:28] <Pelo> Gman99999, you don'T
[04:28] <ouellettesr> how do i know if my bluetooth phone works with my blutooth device?
[04:28] <Gman99999> ok cool
[04:29] <ouellettesr> it pairs, i just cant do file transfer
[04:29] <Pelo> ouellettesr, do you mean your specific model ?
[04:29] <benny_> so I'm going to keep the default desktop background this time.. it's neato.
[04:29] <Pelo> !bluethoot | ouellettesr
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluethoot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <ubuntung-pinoy> !firewall
[04:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:29] <Dekkard> !addusers
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addusers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <chris__> !tvtime
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <justdave> Gman99999: you don't have root open.  One is your X desktop session, the other is the terminal window you opened
[04:29] <dubby> hey anyone know the command to run the network proxy settings?
[04:29] <Pelo> benny_, I like it a lot to , I even got a gdm and a upsplash to match,  and I mande a gfxboot theme along the same lines
[04:30] <somethingcomplex> unperson: nope. .torrent file still lying about its whereabouts. nevermind, though; uTorrent is much easier to use.
[04:30] <ouellettesr> Pelo, Ive been there, everything goes good up till the part where it tells me to temp connect to the device and I get this error: Can't get device information: Success
[04:30] <Pelo> !user | Dekkard
[04:30] <ubotu> Dekkard: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[04:30] <justdave> Gman99999: each terminal window counts as a login
[04:30] <benny_> somethingcomplex: wow.. that's hardcore dude.
[04:30] <oboy03> !upgrade iso
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade iso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <Orbixx> I'm having an issue with Ubuntu recently. Ubuntu appears to believe it receives or emulates an up arrow keypress, without or without a keyboard plugged in, even with a fresh installation and a Live CD.
[04:30] <[T]-Rex> lastnight i installed ubuntu without doing md5sum and it had broken files, today i am installing on a good disc, will it make me re-download all the packages again? i am on dialup
[04:30] <Pelo> ouellettesr, well it says success what's the problem ?
[04:30] <Orbixx> The up arrow keypress occurs every 5 seconds.
[04:30] <benny_> somethingcomplex: sorry.. that hardcore was for pelo..
[04:30] <oboy03> how do i use the iso to upgrade to 8.04
[04:30] <Pelo> ouellettesr, run the msg in the forum search see what happens
[04:31] <Gman99999> justdave do you know how to gain file access permission to copy files off of a hard drive with osx on it?  it says i cant and that i dont have the correct file permissions
[04:31] <ouellettesr> Pelo its a successful error I guess :)
[04:31] <Rafabe> does HH come with a samba server installed by default? I remember in 7.10 I had to download a package
[04:31] <ubuntung-pinoy> !evolution
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <Rafabe> !samba
[04:31] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[04:31] <dubby> !proxy
[04:31] <ubotu> Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:31] <oboy03> !iso
[04:31] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:31] <Monicker> Rafabe: its not installed by default
[04:31]  * Pelo thnks ubuntu is learning from vista " are you realy sure you want to ok the ok of the ok of the removal of the shourtcut "
[04:32] <RedCell> I'm having some sound issues is anyone available to help?
[04:32] <justdave> Gman99999: probably need to sudo to mount it the first time, and you might need to sudo to copy the files, too, if the UIDs are different between OS X and Linux
[04:32] <Pelo> RedCell, state the problem
[04:32] <dubby> !proxy-settings
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy-settings - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Rafabe> monicker: yeah, I saw. It's also not officially supported by Canonical.
[04:32] <dubby> !network-proxy
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network-proxy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Pelo> !proxy | dubby
[04:32] <ubotu> dubby: Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:32] <ubuntung-pinoy> ***Pelo : not true
[04:32] <oboy03> !mount iso
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount iso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <oboy03> !mount
[04:32] <AaronShaf> Is there a way to upgrade to the new Ubuntu from within Ubuntu using the Torrent instead of the slow normal method?
[04:32] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:32] <dubby> Pelo: I need the network-proxy-settings manager
[04:32] <RedCell> I have sound in Songbird, but I don't get system sounds or sound in Firefox
[04:32] <Pelo> ubuntung-pinoy, ?
[04:32] <Medved> Where do i find pulse audio?  I have no sound?
[04:32] <benny_> Pelo: to be honest.. I don't mind the extra (are you sure buttons on vista.. sure they're silly and half ass), but after running a secure linux box, where you have to enter the password it's not that bad.
[04:32] <RedCell> I have an Audigy 2 ZS
[04:33] <Pelo> dubby, in admin , in network ,  select your device,  properties
[04:33] <Makgyver> ok the install starts ok on the PowerBook G4, the issue is on this PowerMac G4
[04:33] <Makgyver> now I have to find out why
[04:33] <b4l74z4r> how do i launch more than one instance of totem?
[04:33] <amenado> AaronShaf-> would you rather do an upgrade or new install so you can retain your old 7.10?
[04:33] <RedCell> doing the killall pulseaudio fixes the firefox problem but I don't want to have to do it every time, and it doesn't fix the system sound
[04:33] <benny_> Makgyver: what was that error again on the powermac
[04:33] <unperson> Gman99999, I don't know how it sees osx (HFS+) disks, so it could be one of two problems:
[04:34] <stanrick> I just installed the restricted nvidia drivers, but how can I get it to recognize my native 1366x768 resolution? it's at 1024x768 right now
[04:34] <Pelo> benny_, I was just joking I haven'T had a chance to try out vista, not that I've tried to try it I just read some of the sillier anecdotes online
[04:34] <Orbixx> I'm having an issue with Ubuntu recently. Ubuntu appears to believe it receives or emulates an up arrow keypress every 5 seconds, without or without a keyboard plugged in, even with a fresh installation and a Live CD.
[04:34] <benny_> Pelo: Unfortunatly.. I have had the (un)pleasure..
[04:34] <Makgyver> benny_, no error, it just doesnt start the install, it drops me into a --> (initramfs) shell
[04:34] <Pelo> stanrick, go in synaptic,  search for nvidia , find the -settings and -config packages  and install then , you can fix your rex from there
[04:34] <benny_> Makgyver: oy..
[04:34] <Makgyver> I have tried --> modprobe ide-core
[04:35] <MrLinux> I just Upgrade the sistem to 8.04 and at the restart says a line like "* Loading hardware drivers.... [fail]"
[04:35] <ubuntung-pinoy> Pelo: vista keeps asking.. (to my opinion much of these asking is for show), while Hardy asks once for a particular session (and makes sense if you ask urself Is this for MY security?)
[04:35] <[T]-Rex> is it possible to install ubuntu on the Ibook G4, even though it hasn't intel chip ?
[04:35] <evilbug> hey.
[04:35] <amenado> Orbixx-> what is the effect of that? how do you determine its a up arrow key entry?
[04:35] <unperson> Gman99999, If Ubuntu doesn't understand the permissions on the OSX disk, then it'll have the permissions of the user mounting it.  If you're mount it as root, all the stuff on it will be owned by root unless you set the user option.
[04:35] <benny_> Makgyver: I really miss when I got to brag about our proc's being in macs.
[04:35] <Gman99999> unperson I was able to read the disk through sudo nautilus but not copy, I really would like to copy some folders over
[04:35] <Rafabe> I installed SAMBA, but the docs say to use command-line to configure it. Is there no GUI toconfigure Samba folders like Kubuntu has?
[04:35] <Pelo> ubuntung-pinoy, I was naking fun of the succesfull error bit ,  i'm sold on ubuntu
[04:35] <MrLinux> I just Upgrade the sistem to 8.04 and at the restart says a line like "* Loading hardware drivers.... [fail]"
[04:35] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i bring back my panels?
[04:35] <Gman99999> unperson ok how do i mount it as root?
[04:35] <obf213> dude has anyone tried remote log-in
[04:35] <obf213> it sooooo slow
[04:35] <obf213> the slowest thing ever
[04:36] <AaronShaf> amenado Either would be fine but I'd rather not have to burn a CD
[04:36] <unperson> Gman99999, You were able to read but not copy FROM it or not copy TO it?
[04:36] <Orbixx> amenado: During GUI, it will move the blinking cursor upwards. In console, it also outputs the ^A, too.
[04:36] <Rafabe> obf: I'm doing it, but on a LAN, so no speed issues
[04:36] <xkcdr0ckz> @obf213: Hardy is slow?
[04:36] <Pelo> Rafabe, check in synaptic  just type samba  and check the packages descriptons there are several I'm told
[04:36] <erikk> Pelo: I installed nvidia-settings and the optin for 1366x768 is skipped and there is no nvidia-config
[04:36] <gleaken> 8.04 when I disable the trackpad on my synaptics touchpad, it disables the mouse buttons for the pointing stick in the keyboard, but not the mouse movement of the pointing stick
[04:36] <Gman99999> unperson just read it, I wanted to copy files from it but i couldn't
[04:36] <MrLinux> :)
[04:36] <evilbug> my windows partition is showing up on my desktop on startup and i just don't want it to (i'm running gutsy).
[04:36] <ubuntung-pinoy> Pelo: right.. last night i think there was someone in here blabbing 'bout Windows.. kinda gets 2 ur nerves
[04:36] <MrLinux> Nobody wanna unswer me
[04:36] <Pelo> erikk, ok , that's pretty much all I have
[04:36] <amenado> AaronShaf-> you can try to load the liveCD from a hard disk and run it like as if you had the livecd rom, i can show you how
[04:36] <benny_> obf213: what kind of "remote login"?
[04:36] <Pelo> erikk, check in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:36] <timandtom> What would differ if I did a clean 7.10 install, then IMMEDIATELY afterwards, updated to 8.04, instead of doing a clean 8.04 install? I want to update, but 8.04 has issues with my wireless card, namely, it not working, whereas 7.10 has the restricted drivers right out of the box.
[04:36] <Gman99999> unperson and ofcourse there ways no way to write to it
[04:37] <stanrick> Pelo: :-( The last version of ubuntu didn't have this issue
[04:37] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i bring back my panels?
[04:37] <Pelo> stanrick, which issue ?
[04:37] <amenado> Orbixx-> that is odd..never experienced that
[04:37] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz, alt_f2 ,  gnome-panel
[04:37] <ouellettesr> Pelo, I cant find anything on that error, However, the first problem I noticed was this error: Couldn't display "obex://[00:1e:e2:14:d3:fb]". on that page you sent me to it says i need gnome-vfs-obexftp, but I installed that and I get the same error
[04:37] <evilbug> my windows partition is showing up on my desktop on startup and i just don't want it to,how do i do that? [i'm running gutsy]
[04:37] <absn1> Help! I had to turn off my computer  because it was frozen and when I started back up it doesnt detect my graphics card, I tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers and restarted but it is still really low resolution with no choices for higher!
[04:37] <stanrick> Pelo: The issue that the 1366 x 768 resolution is not available
[04:37] <AaronShaf> amenado that sounds great, how do i do that?
[04:37] <Makgyver> stuff it, looks like the box stays @ Tiger for the rest of its life
[04:37] <Orbixx> amenado: Me neither... I can't seem to explain it.
[04:37] <xkcdr0ckz> @pelo: no luck.
[04:37] <amenado> AaronShaf-> here is wht you do, if you have a spare partition, make that partition an ext2 not ext3
[04:37] <xkcdr0ckz> from terminal?
[04:37] <evilbug> absn1- you can reconfigure you xorg
[04:38] <absn1> evilbug: how do i do that
[04:38] <Gman99999> unperson what i would like to do is copy from it since im backing up my files, so i need to mount it as root and then copy the files i want from it as root, what are those commands ?
[04:38] <AaronShaf> amenado, unfortunately no spare partitions
[04:38] <lxusr1> wahoo
[04:38] <MrLinux> I just Upgrade the sistem to 8.04 and at the restart says a line like "* Loading hardware drivers.... [fail]" It that BAD ?!
[04:38] <Rafabe> thanks
[04:38] <stanrick> abs: I need nvidia to recognize my 1366 x 768 monitor
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> dang
[04:38] <Error403> Hello, is it possible to upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04?
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> reason!
[04:38] <Pelo> ouellettesr, anyting thast starts with gnome is usualy a gui app, type the name ofhte package in the thermal an see if you get an app you can play with
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> where are you!
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> !seen reason
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen reason - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <FloodBot2> vanzemaljac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <amenado> AaronShaf-> nothing? well you can resize your current one to provide for the new install
[04:38] <Gman99999> unperson nm i found it
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> .. thats bad
[04:38] <MrLinux> I just Upgrade the sistem to 8.04 and at the restart says a line like "* Loading hardware drivers.... [fail]" It that BAD ?!
[04:38] <lxusr1> i love my ubuntu laptop :-p
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> reason is not here :(
[04:38] <vanzemaljac> great helper
[04:38] <Lardarse> Error403: via 7.10 ut the intended route, but back  up everything
[04:38] <benny_> BRB.. getting more rum... there any laws against IRCUI (IRC under the influence)?
[04:38] <unperson> Gman99999, Well, you should be able to do sudo mount [device] [mount point]
[04:39] <unperson> Gman99999, Ah, good.
[04:39] <stanrick> It looks like nvidia is causing trouble for ubuntu. I can't get 1366x768 resolution and other people are stuck at a pathetically low resolution
[04:39] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz,  ok  alt_f2  gconf-editor ,   in /apps/gnome-panel ,  look in there  you can probably turn them back on somewhere
[04:39] <deformation> hello all
[04:39] <unperson> Gman99999, I have to say I don't understand what's causing the problem, though, so I have no idea if this will fix it.  I'd think so, though.
[04:39] <Error403> Lardarse, because update manager wants me to upgrade to 7.10 before
[04:39] <Nasra> Hi, .....I am getting error trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS....on the setting up software channels:  when is fetching files it just get stuck in there ....and sometimes I get third party sources disabled entries in the sources.list  were disabled.....what should I do to correct this problem?
[04:39] <Lardarse> Error403: even back up the things that you might not think about before you do it
[04:39] <evilbug> absn1- run console mode > ctrl+alt+F2 < then simply type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:39] <amenado> AaronShaf-> are you up for it?
[04:40] <Lardarse> Error403: yes, it will make you go one version at a time
[04:40] <stanrick> It used to be that the xorg.config file just needed a few lines added to it to get any resolution you wanted, that doesn't seem to be possible now
[04:40] <amenado> !slow | Nasra
[04:40] <ubotu> Nasra: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[04:40] <unperson> Gman99999, ...oh, I bet you have read access to the directory but not to the files it contains.  That'd explain it.
[04:40] <Pelo> Nasra, the servers are under heavy load,  the best thing to do is get the alt-cd or the dvd in torrent and upgrade from that
[04:40] <evilbug> absn1- then you just run through the menus accepting the default options.
[04:40] <AaronShaf> amenado I think I'll just wait 24 hours for these slow updates to complete, but thanks :)
[04:40] <unperson> Gman99999, or else you don't have write access to the place you're trying to put them.
[04:40] <Pelo> stanrick, not with the binary drvers for nvidia and ati
[04:40] <Error403> alright, I think I'll have to wait a little while then...  the servers are clogged for now and I'll be using two slots ;)
[04:41] <chemosi> make: *** No se especificó ningún objetivo y no se encontró ningún makefile.  Alto.
[04:41] <evilbug> absn1- if that doesn't work,then i don't know :(
[04:41] <amenado> AaronShaf-> you know there is no going back once you upgrade, but installing in a separate partition, you can always delete
[04:41] <drivetrax> Is it possible to run XP in Ubuntu virtual space
[04:41] <deformation> I have a problem, I have an acer laptop with 3 systems installed, xubuntu, ubuntu and XP, after i upgraded the xubuntu to hardy, i fail to mount the other 2 partitions that ubuntu and xp are installed on, i mean for file browsing. i think it has something to do with kitpolicy, can anyone help me please?
[04:41] <chemosi> what meaning that
[04:41] <evilbug> Pelo- my windows partition is showing up as a volume icon on my desktop on startup and i just don't want it to,how do i do that? [i'm running gutsy]
[04:41] <Error403> drivetrax, try virtualbox
[04:41] <Pelo> drivetrax, on a virtual machine you mean, yes,   in virtualbox or in vmware
[04:42] <drivetrax> ohhh cute!!!!!
[04:42] <stanrick> Pelo: The binary drivers? Aren't those the same as the restricted drivers?
[04:42] <Nasra> amenado -pelo thanks alot
[04:42] <drivetrax> Thanks
[04:42] <Gman99999> unperson interestingly my wife did some commands during a boot up and shut down on the mac and then it stopped working altogether and the disk utility couldnt repair the hard drive, i thought it was broken and so did apple, I took out the hard drive and put it in a portable hard drive enclosure just to test it and see if i could acess any files, in windows and on osx it wasn't recognized
[04:42] <chemosi> how to compilar program
[04:42] <Error403> np, have fun drivetrax
[04:42] <amenado> deformation-> what kit policy?  are those partitions not mentioned in your new  /etc/fstab?
[04:42] <roachmmflhyr> Im having trouble with 8.04 getting my rtl8185 wifi working.....
[04:42] <Pelo> evilbug, gconf-editor  /apps/nautilus/desktop , unchech the show volume one , or change the mount point in fstab
[04:42] <Gman99999> unperson then when i plugged it in on ubuntu suddenly amazingly it read everything and mounted it
[04:42] <ubuntung-pinoy> sls: any luck? found that Rhythmbox has its own sync tool for iPod after installing a plugin. http://www.kittypee.com/2007/11/16/rhythmbox-ipod-sync-plugin/
[04:43] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks
[04:43] <deformation> @amenado i really dont know, i cant see them in the places menu, but they are intact because i can login into them and they show up in grub
[04:43] <lxusr1> roachmmfl: using ndiswrapper?
[04:43] <Gman99999> unperson so now im wondering what the heck is going on with the damn thing, and possibly if i get the old info off before i wipe the hard drive then hopefully aand maybe i can re-install osx on it and get it to work again
[04:43] <Pelo> stanrick, I don'T think so , you get the binairies from the webiste for the makers,  ther restricted are precompiled or someting but I'm not sure anymore,  thanks for seeding doubt in my mind
[04:43] <unperson> Gman99999, Magic.  :-)  I've had similar experiences.  my gf was having problems with one of the drives on her mac.  IIRC there were files she couldn't delete.  I hooked it up to my ubuntu machine...it turned out it just needed a fsck.
[04:44] <roachmmflhyr> lxusr1: no Ive read it should work out of the box
[04:44] <Pelo> afk
[04:44] <pawan> how to update menu.lst
[04:44] <Sebboh> Hi, I understand that you're all probably pretty busy with the new release.  Strangely, other channels are getting extra traffic, too.  FYI, ##java doesn't know how to fix Java installation issues in Ubuntu.  Well, I don't speak for them..  Just seems to be the case. :)
[04:44] <pawan> it is showing 7.10 but i have 8.04
[04:44] <amenado> deformation-> then you may have to modify your /etc/fstab to get them mounted automatically at boot
[04:44] <unperson> Gman99999, ...which brings to mind many jokes, now that I retell it.
[04:44] <Waffle> Hey, I can't unmount a volume because an application is using it. Is there any way to see what application is using it so i can unmount it?
[04:44] <Gman99999> unperson think a fsck might fix that hard drive?"
[04:44]  * Makgyver is installing MacPorts on the PowerMac (at least I will get some *nix tools sanity)
[04:44] <deformation> @amenado hw do i do that?
[04:44] <ubuntung-pinoy> anyone know how to fix "no route to smtp host" while sending Email with Evolutions?
[04:44] <r4nge> Ccan anyone recommend free software to convert xvid to iphone compatible format
[04:44] <amenado> Sebboh-> look into man pages,  man update-alternatives
[04:45] <Gman99999> unperson is osx that crappy that it wont even read the hard drive anymore?
[04:45] <lxusr1> roachmm: imo ndis performs better than other modules.... in my experience
[04:45] <unperson> Gman99999, Wish I knew.  A few comments:  OSX is based off BSD, not Linux, and there are actually other weird file attributes beyond the normal permissions in Linux.
[04:45] <roachmmflhyr> hmm
[04:45] <Pelo> r4nge, look in the forum for  convertit  it supports abut load of formats
[04:45] <amenado> deformation-> man fstab,  anyhow edit /etc/fstab and add entry for partitions not loaded at boot
[04:45] <Makgyver> Gman99999, osx isnt crap
[04:45] <r4nge> Pelo, thx
[04:45] <roachmmflhyr> lxusr1: what driver should I use 98 or xp?
[04:46] <Gman99999> unperson ahh k I see
[04:46] <Pelo> deformation, gksu gedit /etc/fstab  comment out the right line with  #
[04:46] <timandtom> I downloaded a .lexe, whats the command to make it executable?
[04:46] <amenado> ubuntung-pinoy-> can you ping the smtp host?
[04:46] <unperson> Gman99999, The other comment is that I don't know if OSX keeps other metadata on files.  I think maybe it might, in which case I'm not sure if everything will work the same if you pull it off, wipe the drive, and put it back on.  Though I would certainly hope so.
[04:46] <pawan> how to download video from youtube
[04:46] <deformation> @amenado i think ther are mentioned in the fstab
[04:46] <Gman99999> makgyver then why won't it mount a portable hard drive with the mac filesystem it knows and loves?
[04:46] <unperson> Gman99999, I'm sure there are mac experts out there that could give better answers to those questions.
[04:47] <deformation> how can i show you guys my fstab file?
[04:47] <JbsTac> I'm having trouble getting my PC5740 PC Card to work in Hardy. lsusb shows the card is detected, but Hardy fails to create the /dev/ttyACM0 file. Anyone know how I can get this working?
[04:47] <Pelo> pawan, check in totem there is a new plugin for that ,  just open the panel and check th drop down list at the top
[04:47] <amenado> deformation-> please man fstab so you have at least an understanding what those entries meant
[04:47] <Medved> i gotta say you guys aren't much help
[04:47] <roachmmflhyr> lxusr1: Ive tried using the driver here http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ but after I make all the files disappear in the directory and returns errors
[04:47] <deformation> where can i paste the contents?
[04:47] <amenado> deformation-> yes, please use pastebin to paste /etc/fstab
[04:47] <Makgyver> Gman99999, please explain, as I am quite a hardy Mac user I may be able to assist
[04:47] <Pelo> !pastebin | deformation
[04:47] <ubotu> deformation: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:47] <RoC_MasterMind> !pastbin | deformation
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <Chris|> how do i check if i have a tv tuner?
[04:47] <Gman99999> makgyver sweet this is a good one
[04:47] <deformation> ok hold on guys
[04:47] <pawan> i cant see
[04:48]  * unperson sits and listens
[04:48] <hdevalence> Anyone tried using Debtorrent with Ubuntu?
[04:48] <brunner> is the AMD64 branch considered unstable or something?
[04:48] <mikebot> Does anyone know why when I right-click and press `re-index' on tracker, it just disappears?
[04:48] <brunner> my web host installed x86 on a quad Xeon system for some reason
[04:48]  * flyback is going to try to sleep, thx all
[04:48] <Sebboh> amenado, thanks for the knee-jerk manpage recommendation.  Actually, my linux system works fine.  I was suggesting that ##java can't help Ubuntu users install java.
[04:48] <amenado> Chris|-> did you remember paying for one? any indications like antennae input ports?
[04:48]  * Pelo sneaks up behind unperson and bangs a gong
[04:48] <Sebboh> see you guys
[04:48] <Pelo> flyback,  sleep well
[04:48] <timandtom> I have a .lexe file, but it won't open. Whats the command to make a file executable in terminal?
[04:48] <Chris|> amenado, i do have a tv ant, but not sure if i have a tv tuner
[04:48] <ubuntung-pinoy> amenado: Yes.. and it pings fine
[04:49] <Gman99999> makgyver well i dont know what my wife did she pressed this odd key combination to reboot the computer once it did, osx never booted up again, I booted the computer with the osx cd to run the disk utility but it coulddnt fix the hard drive, at all
[04:49] <unperson> Pelo, :-P
[04:49] <Pelo> timandtom, is this a windows executable files ? those don't run in linux unless you use wine
[04:49] <Makgyver> reset the PRAM
[04:49] <amenado> Chris|-> possibly not, if its just a monitor, receiver could be additional
[04:49] <Makgyver> what Mac is it?
[04:49] <timandtom> Pelo: Nope, lexe is Linux executable(Or so I was told last time I had this problem)
[04:49] <MEtaLpREs_> is there something wrong with the ubuntu irc server?  i keep getting disconnected and timing out, none of my other servers are having this problem
[04:50] <Gman99999> makgyver so then i took out the hard drive and put in another one, and then i put the hard drive i took out into the portable hard drive enclosure just to see if it worked at all, since i thought it was probably broken
[04:50] <amenado> ubuntung-pinoy-> then your configs for smtp may need reconfiguring
[04:50] <deformation> ok guys
[04:50] <Chris|> amenado, how would i know for sure?
[04:50] <deformation> here is it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64632/
[04:50] <Orbixx> I'm having an issue with Ubuntu recently. Ubuntu appears to believe it receives or emulates an up arrow keypress every 5 seconds, without or without a keyboard plugged in, even with a fresh installation and a Live CD.
[04:50] <unperson> Makgyver, Gman99999, Heh, it seems like every mac solution begins with "reset the PRAM"
[04:50] <Jangari> is there a way to restart to a particular line of the menu.lst from a command line? Something using $ shutdown -r, perhaps?
[04:50] <gleaken> is there anyone who can help me with the synaptics touch pad issue
[04:50] <amenado> Chris|-> is this for an extra card? for a laptop? wht hardware do you have?
[04:50] <timandtom> Pelo: Either way, I know this file works :) Used it before, but I need to set it up again because I reinstalled 7.10
[04:50] <ubuntung-pinoy> amenado: if one is using default ports, does one need to append " :portnumber " to the server name?
[04:50] <Pelo> timandtom, sorry I just missread,    put it on the desktop,  open a terminal ,  cd Desktop,   sudo chmod +x  filename,  sudo ./filename
[04:50] <Makgyver> unperson, it is the best way to eliminate about 90% or all end user issues
[04:50] <gleaken> The trackpoint gets it's mouse buttons disabled but the track point still works
[04:50] <obf214> d
[04:51] <timandtom> Pelo: Ah, thankyamuch!
[04:51] <Chris|> amenado, i'd like to use tvtime, but not sure if i have the tuner, i want to watch tv on my computer
[04:51] <amenado> ubuntung-pinoy-> dont know what app you are using,
[04:51] <RoC_MasterMind> Jangari, if you want to change the default OS in grub, change it
[04:51] <Dr_willis> timandtom,  just 'chmod +x whatever' then to set it as being exexutable then run it with ./whatever
[04:51] <Gman99999> makgyver windows wouldnt read it or mount it nor would osx but ubuntu would and now im surprised and quite pleased that it works so far
[04:51] <tawt> what's the best app to use for Python?
[04:51] <stuart> hey guys, my update-manager is broken :(
[04:51] <pawan> hi
[04:51] <Chris|> amenado, i have a hp media pc
[04:51] <tawt> stuart, what's the problem?
[04:51] <Makgyver> Ubuntu will see it as a raw disk
[04:51] <amenado> Chris|-> what hardware do you have? a pci card? pcmia?
[04:51] <stuart> I get an error that says "importerror: cannot import name Widget from gtk"
[04:51] <unperson> Makgyver, Yeah, so it seems.  I don't really understand what the PRAM does, so it's just black magic to me.
[04:51] <timandtom> Dr_Willis: Thanks. Is there a way to make it so it STAYS executable?
[04:51] <deformation> @Pelo @amenado http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64632/
[04:51] <Jangari> RoC_MasterMind: it ain't that, i have it set up just how i want it, but i want to be able to restart in windows but not have to wait for the grub to load to switch over
[04:52] <Makgyver> if you plug in the HDD in Mac OS Xand go to Disk utility you will/should be able to see/repair it
[04:52] <Chris|> amenado, i dont know that, how would i find out?
[04:52] <gleaken> stuart: Are you using the main repositories?  if you are, you may want to change to a different one, if you need help, ask
[04:52] <Gman99999> makgyver I tried it again on osx and it won't read the hard drive, so is there anything i can do, should i pull the files i want off of the hard drive and then format it?
[04:52] <amenado> Chris|-> you proly have to dig that info from hp web site
[04:52] <Jangari> sadly still some programs for which i need windows
[04:52] <Pelo> RoC_MasterMind, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ,  in the first 20 lies, there is a line default = 0   that the number or hte entry to boot first,   the numering starts with 0 -1 - 2 -3 etc
[04:52] <ubuntung-pinoy> amenado: Evolution
[04:52] <Gman99999> makgyver is there some special magical way to do that or is a simple format from ubuntu going to work?
[04:52] <Chris|> alright amenado so i'd search for what exactly?
[04:52] <Pelo> deformation,  what  do you need to do again ?
[04:52] <][AcHm2][> for what no ip my eth0
[04:52] <tawt> what's the best app to use for Python?
[04:52] <Gman99999> makgyver or is there a way i can still salvage the hard drive?
[04:52] <Makgyver> Gman99999, pull the files and write the Disk to Zero, then put it in the Mac as format it in disk utility
[04:52] <][AcHm2][> i have install 8.04
[04:53] <Gman99999> makgyver ok
[04:53] <RoC_MasterMind> Jangari, maybe set windows as the default but when you want ubuntu select ubuntu, that way if you just reboot from within ubuntu it will go into windows by itself
[04:53] <Makgyver> I would try disk utility in Mac OS first
[04:53] <stuart> gleaken: it doesn't run at all. it says ""importerror: cannot import name Widget from gtk"
[04:53] <obf214> !mp3 -> obf214
[04:53] <tokyoahead> guys can someone help me getting sound from my SoundMAX soundcard on my laptop? the external volume control works fine with the linux volume slider, but I cannot hear any sound...
[04:53] <Pelo> !es | ][AcHm2][
[04:53] <ubotu> ][AcHm2][: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:53] <amenado> Chris|-> for whatever info you have on your pc, optional cards, etc
[04:53] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i get my Compiz running again?
[04:53] <deformation> @Pelo I cant see my XP and ubuntu partitions in the places list, i want to browse them normally
[04:53] <stuart> tawt: it says "importerror: connot import name Widget from gtk"
[04:53] <gleaken> stuart: hmm, ok, one sec
[04:53] <deformation> @Pelo i think they are not mounted
[04:53] <obf214> !es | obf214
[04:53] <amenado> deformation-> which partition? sda4 and sda2 ?
[04:53] <Gman99999> makgyver ever heard of something like this happening before?
[04:54] <Jangari> so the answer is no; i have to either change the default order, or wait for grub to load, i can't restart from a shell to a particular OS?
[04:54] <Pelo> deformation, doyou see it on your desktop ?
[04:54] <deformation> @amenado yes
[04:54] <obf214> !es | obf213
[04:54] <Gman99999> makgyver apple didnt even know how to fix it
[04:54] <ubotu> obf213: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:54] <deformation> @Pelo no
[04:54] <Chris|> amenado, ok thanks
[04:54] <deformation> @Pelo only in grub
[04:54] <amenado> deformation-> perhaps you should use  ntfs-3g ?
[04:54] <][AcHm2][> ubotu thanks
[04:54] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:54] <absnt> Ok.. so after reconfiguring xorg, my windows don't have titlebars and most of my startup programs aren't starting up >.> any help please!
[04:54] <deformation> @amenado but the ubuntu partition is an EXT3
[04:54]  * flyback would like to say before he sleeps, that all his friends and people who get him thru the hard times are worth more to him that all the riches in the world
[04:54] <Gman99999> makgyver unperson thanks so much
[04:54] <Makgyver> Gman99999, no worries
[04:54] <Pelo> deformation,  it should show in your desktop in anycase,  open nautilus,  goto /media/sda1 ,  then bookmark it ,  bookmarks show in places
[04:55] <Jangari> is 8.04 released?
[04:55] <RoC_MasterMind> Jangari, I don't think that's how the bootloader works, no.
[04:55] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i get my Compiz running again?
[04:55] <timandtom> Pelo and Dr_willis: When I try to open it, i get this: brian@aptopla-Ubuntu710:~/Desktop$ ~/Desktop/KDX/KDXClient.lexe
[04:55] <timandtom> /home/brian/Desktop/KDX/KDXClient.lexe: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:55] <stuart> Jangari: yes it is
[04:55] <tawt> stuart, i'm not familiar with that
[04:55] <RoC_MasterMind> Jangari, it's either sit and wait, or set a default.
[04:55] <amenado> deformation-> yes, ubuntu will natively mount ext3 File systems, for ntfs, you have to use ntfs-3g
[04:55] <stuart> tawt, k, now worries
[04:55] <deformation> @Pelo it does not show in Thunar
[04:55] <Jangari> alright, thanks RoC_MasterMind
[04:55] <timandtom> Pelo and Dr_willis: Any ideas? :(
[04:55] <ChuckMac> Can someone help me with why Gutsy doesn't seem to pick up the Hardy version available indicator?
[04:55] <Jangari> what's LTS?
[04:56] <gleaken> stuart, take a look at this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185163 does it sound like it may help>
[04:56] <TaRDy> does anybody know of a good (and cheap) desktop wireless adapter thats compatible with ubuntu?
[04:56] <amenado> ChuckMac-> what are you referring to? version available indicator?
[04:56] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, follow the upgrade instructions page.
[04:56] <gleaken> ?
[04:56] <timandtom> Jangari: Long Term Support
[04:56] <tawt> langari , long term support
[04:56] <Gman99999> makgyver what does resetting the pram do? and the nvram?
[04:56] <lxusr1> long term seupport
[04:56] <drivetrax> ChuckMac,  -- have you Updated the machine
[04:56] <Jangari> thought i was something like that.
[04:56] <deformation> @amenado let me post you the error i get when checking the partition under gparted
[04:56] <Pelo> deformation, you should probably ask in #xubuntu then
[04:56] <Jangari> it*
[04:56] <ChuckMac> Update-Manager shows all updates applied but I'm not getting the notification that 8.04 is available as an upgrade
[04:56] <stuart> Jangari, Long Term Support - It will be supported on the Desktop for 3 yrs and 5 for server version
[04:56] <aardvarken> Hey, what's the point of having language support for Esperanto and Latin when the packages dont do anything?
[04:56] <vanzelmajac> anyone know a guide to instal lcompiz
[04:56] <tawt> what's the best app to use for Python?
[04:56] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[04:56] <vanzelmajac> on ubuntu
[04:56] <drivetrax> ChuckMac,  have you.. clicked on update
[04:56] <Radtoo^laptop> tawt: what? 0-o
[04:56] <ChuckMac> Tried that, didn't work
[04:56] <Pelo> timandtom, cd to folder with the executable file in it ,  then  sudo ./filename
[04:56] <Makgyver> Gman99999, http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
[04:56] <gleaken> stuart: in other words, is it a python installation issue?  can you check to see if python is installed properly?
[04:57] <deformation> @pelo @amenado thats what i get : org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed auth_admin_keep_always <-- (action, result).
[04:57] <timandtom> Pelo: That's what I did, but it said: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:57] <ChuckMac> Followed all of the available instructions on upgrading and still get nothing.
[04:57] <tawt> Radtoo^laptop: a python editor
[04:57] <b4l74z4r> is it possible to stop the taskbar from changing windows when you accidentally scroll the mousewheel when the pointer rests on the taskbar
[04:57] <Jangari> alright, upgrading, ciao folks
[04:57] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i re-enable Compiz?
[04:57] <fuad_slalu_keren> k,l.l;.;mkim
[04:57] <Gman99999> makgyver lol i have the same page open
[04:57] <fuad_slalu_keren> iiuik,l
[04:57] <ChuckMac> I'd rather not have to install from an ISO (which also doesn't give the update option).
[04:57] <Pelo> deformation, register your nick
[04:57] <tawt> is DrPython good?
[04:57] <Radtoo^laptop> tawt: all editors I know support it, but I take it you mean an IDE?
[04:58] <Pelo> timandtom, go in synaptic and insall that dependency
[04:58] <tawt> Radtoo^laptop:  what's ide?
[04:58] <stuart> gleaken, that looks like the same (or similar) error, but doesn't seem to provide a solution :s
[04:58] <deformation> @pelo register it how?
[04:58] <Crshman> hi all, i'm running hardy and for some reason when i open firefox compiz.real shoots upto 100% cpu usage and kills my system....any ideas?
[04:58] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, 2nd time: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[04:58] <Pelo> !register | deformation
[04:58] <ubotu> deformation: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[04:58] <Radtoo^laptop> tawt: integrated development environment
[04:58] <amenado> deformation-> dont know that error, you have to google for it
[04:58] <tawt> Radtoo^laptop:  sure
[04:58] <dettymac> how do I get the beryl options to appear under my "appearance tab" in gnome?
[04:58] <gleaken> stuart: can you start up synaptic?
[04:58] <Pelo> deformation, that msg was when you try to join #xubuntu right ?
[04:58] <ChuckMac> RoC_MasterMind, already been there, didn't help.
[04:58] <RoC_MasterMind> dettymac, beryl is not included with ubuntu, you may want to install "compiz-settings-manager" though.
[04:59] <xkcdr0ckz> How do i re-enable Compiz?
[04:59] <Chris|> amenado, i'm taking a guess that i do have a tv tuner, "HP pavilion m8000n media TV PC"
[04:59] <deformation> @pelo no
[04:59] <tawt> Radtoo^laptop:  i'm beginning to learn how to program, so i picked python as my third language, after basic and ti-84 plus silver
[04:59] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, if you have installed the package it tells you to, you should see hte upgrade.
[04:59] <LainIwakura> Hello, how do I extract a .exe zip file using Wine?
[04:59] <Pelo> deformation, ok sorry when did you get that msg then ?
[04:59] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, what version are you on right now?
[04:59] <deformation> @pelo thats what i get from gparted when i try to mount the partitions
[04:59] <Radtoo^laptop> tawt: well I see. I don't know drpython tbh but anjuta kdevelop and eclipse are all good
[04:59] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz, in the apperance applet , last tab
[04:59] <tawt> Radtoo^laptop:  ok, thanks
[04:59] <timandtom> Pelo: Can't find it in Synaptic
[04:59] <deformation> @pelo (org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed auth_admin_keep_always <-- (action, result)
[04:59] <amenado> Chris|->  well plug in an antenna and see if you can pick up local tv stations
[04:59] <Pelo> deformation, use thunar , goto  /media/sda1
[04:59] <stuart> gleaken, yep. Synaptic works.  Add/Remove doesn't, Deluge (bittorrent) doesn't nor does the gnome bittorrent. Update Manger doesn't either
[05:00] <xkcdr0ckz> @Pelo: that doesnt work.
[05:00] <absnt> Ok.. so after reconfiguring xorg, my windows don't have titlebars and most of my startup programs aren't starting up >.> any help please!
[05:00] <dettymac> RoC_MasterMind, thanks
[05:00] <timandtom> Pelo: I think I had this problem last time I tried to do this too... It was in some other package, but I don't know which
[05:00] <TaRDy> does anybody know of a good (and cheap) desktop wireless adapter thats compatible with ubuntu?
[05:00] <stuart> gleaken, I want to get Hardy but can't! :(
[05:00] <Pelo> timandtom, just search for stdc
[05:00] <MrLinux> Don't UPGRADE TO Ubuntu 8.04 He has only ERRORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:00] <xkcdr0ckz> @Pelo: it stop loading after you recommended me to remove xserver-xgl
[05:00] <Chris|> amenado, i have one plugged in, but i think i need to add some drivers in /etc/modules, i'm not sure how to find out what drivers i need
[05:00] <gleaken> stuart, seems like you have a broken python install.  Can you reinstall?  Can you do that or do you need help?
[05:00] <MrLinux> I just UPGRADE and Only ERRORS HAVE !
[05:00] <samliu> linksys wusb300n
[05:00] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz,  I never recommended such a thing
[05:00] <manixtate> would any one be able to help me if I couldn't access run with alt f2?
[05:00] <deformation> @pelo in thunar i only can see the XP (sda1) partition, but i have to go to media folder to see it
[05:01] <stuart> gleaken, can I just do that thru synaptic or apt ?
[05:01] <Radtoo^laptop> tawt: eclipse additionaly is all the rage on IDE nowadays ;)
[05:01] <aardvarken> manixtate: is metacity working?
[05:01] <tawt> Radtoo^laptop: thanks man!
[05:01] <deformation> @pelo but my ubuntu ext3 i cant see it even in media folder
[05:01] <amenado> Chris|-> perhaps you can look at how mythtv does it, i myself have not used it, so cant give you any inputs
[05:01] <Radtoo^laptop> tawt: may or may not be misguided but ppl have to see it once ;X
[05:01] <gleaken> stuart: you can do it through either way, whichever way you prefer
[05:01] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz, reisntall xserver-xgl you need that for compiz to wokr,  just add the button so you can toggle compiz on and off when you need to view fullscreen video
[05:01] <RoC_MasterMind> TaRDy, I have found the Proxim Orinoco Silver PC card to have excellent linux support out of the box including full monitor mode and packet injection.
[05:01] <manixtate> not totally sure any command I can pump into terminal?
[05:01] <evilbug> what's the better partitioning system for 8.04,ext3?
[05:01] <MrLinux> Don't UPGRADE TO Ubuntu 8.04 He has only ERRORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <Pelo> deformation,  realy ?
[05:01] <dettymac> RoC_MasterMind, can't seem to find that package
[05:01] <MrLinux> Don't UPGRADE TO Ubuntu 8.04 He has only ERRORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <MrLinux> Don't UPGRADE TO Ubuntu 8.04 He has only ERRORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <Chris|> amenado, yeah i'm setting up mythtv atm
[05:01] <FloodBot2> MrLinux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <xkcdr0ckz> sorry i mistaked u for crdlb. lol. oops.
[05:01] <deformation> @Pelo, it used to mount normally before hardy, but under root permission
[05:01] <crdlb> Pelo: not in hardy
[05:02] <Pelo> !ops | MrLinux
[05:02] <ubotu> MrLinux: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[05:02] <aardvarken> manixtate: try: metacity --replace
[05:02] <Pelo> crdlb, what ?
[05:02] <stuart> gleaken, which package am I looking for ? Is it just called python ?
[05:02] <deformation> @Pelo because of that i think its a matter of kitpolicy
[05:02] <manixtate> will do thanks aard
[05:02] <maco> MrLinux: what makes you think ubuntu's a boy?
[05:02] <Tweaker> Ok Im back, and I got a few questions about codecs. I cant play internet movies on my computer. [Exp: Youtube] How can I fix this?
[05:02] <gleaken> stuart: give me a second, I will walk through it on my end too.
[05:02] <xkcdr0ckz> nm, crdlb's another user.
[05:02] <crdlb> Pelo: almost no one needs Xgl anymore
[05:02] <TaRDy> is ubuntu really no longer going to support the SPARC processors?
[05:02] <stuart> gleaken, sweet, thanks :)
[05:02] <maco> Tweaker: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and youll get flash, java, normal codecs, etc
[05:02] <ChuckMac> RoC_MasterMind I'm on 7.10. Apt tells me I've got the current version of the update-manager and do-release-upgrade says there are no new versions.....
[05:02] <Tweaker> thanks, is it in sypnaptic
[05:02] <Pelo> deformation, I haven't had much experince with the new policy kit ,  you'll have to figure that one out yourself
[05:03] <Crshman> ok...if no one knows how to fix my issue.....where do i find logs for compiz so i can attempt to figure this out on my own?
[05:03] <samliu> !tardy
[05:03] <The_Ringmaster> anyone got sound to work on a lenovo y410?
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tardy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <maco> TaRDy: security updates from old versions will still happen, and itll be in the ports, but no official support on future releases
[05:03] <samliu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3268995
[05:03] <evilbug> Pelo- i tried doing a clean install yesterday after the upgrade failed and messed up my system,and the clean install didn't work either.it gave me a bunch of errors and saying that the disc was corrupt.i had the disc checked after it was burnt + twice with the disc check in the boot menu and it came up fine.
[05:03] <samliu> I followed that
[05:03] <deformation> @pelo you're right :) Thanks anyway guys
[05:03] <evilbug> evilbug- any idea why?
[05:03] <Pelo> Crshman, restate your issue periodicaly, it's a busy channel and it's been a long day
[05:03] <timandtom> Pelo: Theres quite a few, any idea which one?
[05:03] <samliu> and got the wusb300n working in 2 minutes
[05:03] <Crshman> hi all, i'm running hardy and for some reason when i open firefox compiz.real shoots upto 100% cpu usage and kills my system....any ideas?
[05:03] <tokyoahead> guys can someone help me getting sound from my SoundMAX soundcard on my laptop? the external volume control works fine with the linux volume slider, but I cannot hear any sound...
[05:03] <deformation> Thanks @amenado
[05:03] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, gksu "update-manager -d"
[05:03] <samliu> so I highly recommend it
[05:03] <drivetrax> There is a channel #compiz-Fusion... they are very helpful
[05:03] <Tweaker> Thanks Im out
[05:04] <aardvarken> tokyoahead: is the correct device selected in the sound settings?
[05:04] <Crshman> Pelo: i believe it...i thank everyone here for all their help...i know new releases cause a lot of stress for everyone!
[05:04] <RoC_MasterMind> Crshman, try also asking that on #compiz-fusion
[05:04] <crdlb> xkcdr0ckz: if you use @ in front of my nick, I don't get a hilight
[05:04] <mouseclone> anyone have an update on the 2.6.24-12 kernel breaking sound?
[05:04] <amenado> deformation-> you're welcome
[05:04] <aardvarken> tokyoahead: for instance, my surround sound car can select front, back, etc.
[05:04] <mouseclone> Audigy card more so
[05:04] <samliu> btw tardy, its a draft n card so if you ever get an n router it works, plus its not that expensive
[05:04] <Crshman> RoC_MasterMind: Will do
[05:04] <maco> how do i use gfxboot?  the howto i found on the forums is from dapper and didn't work on the gfxboot theme i found
[05:04] <samliu> orinoco cards are great too but expensive
[05:04] <Pelo> timandtom,  you're looking for a library , so one that starts with lib and check for the version number I think it was 2
[05:04] <manixtate> screen flashed but no change
[05:04] <Qrawl_> the new Ubuntu is very nice
[05:04] <tokyoahead> aardvarken: I think so. I chose ALSA for all of them, Autodeteect would not let me hear the test-sound
[05:04] <TaRDy> maco thank you, I was under the impression ubuntu and sun had been working together to help support
[05:04] <ChuckMac> RoC_MasterMind, have done that several times with no success.
[05:04] <Nemes> I have a folder where SSH users are uploading files. Does anybody know how I could to be mailed every time a new file is uploaded or an existent one is modified? I don't even know where I could start searching
[05:04] <RoC_MasterMind> samliu, my orinoco was $20 on ebay!
[05:04] <ezzieyguywu1> what script is hardy using for suspend? i don't think its /etc/acpi/sleep.sh because it doesn't recognize any changes to /etc/default/acpi-support. I think i read somewhere that hardy would use pmutils for suspend?
[05:04] <xtknight> Qrawl_, i like it too, just some small perks
[05:04] <maco> TaRDy: sun now does x86_64 though
[05:04] <RoC_MasterMind> ChuckMac, that is sad, sorry to hear.
[05:04] <xkcdr0ckz> i know, i was responding to Pelo. hah.
[05:04] <maco> TaRDy: i think
[05:05] <Qrawl_> xtknight, like what
[05:05] <samliu> really?
[05:05] <ffm> Is there any reason that I would not want to have security updates install automatically for a home machine?
[05:05] <samliu> I was looking for an orinoco gold card classic
[05:05] <samliu> it was like
[05:05] <Pelo> evilbug, why didyou reinstall ? I don'T recall I though you were doig fine execpt for a few little issues
[05:05] <samliu> $150-200
[05:05] <FloodBot2> samliu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <RoC_MasterMind> ffm, no.
[05:05] <Vlet> ffm: no
[05:05] <gleaken> stuart: when you query (CTRL-F) for python in synaptics, you will see a LOT of stuff, we are looking for the entry that says just "python", it should be a wrapper package for python 2.4 or 2.5, BTW, I assume you are gutsy?
[05:05] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz, I missed it
[05:05] <RoC_MasterMind> samliu, I said silver!
[05:05] <figuringout> i was trying to get fretsonfire(the guitar hero clone) working on my ubuntu 7.10. now I get this error "OSError: glut: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[05:05] <ffm> Vlet and RoC_MasterMind , then why is that not the default?
[05:05] <ffm> Vlet and RoC_MasterMind , and it won't reboot w/o prompting, even so, right?
[05:05] <aardvarken> does anyone know why the esperanto support does nothing?
[05:06] <RoC_MasterMind> ffm, typically your machine shouldn't be doing things you haven't asked it to.
[05:06] <NIghtFire> anyone here installed the 8.04 upgrade yet ?
[05:06] <evilbug> Pelo- i was doing fine for a bit,but then i had too many errors at startup and apps wouldn't launch for some reason.but any clue to why the clean install wouldn't work?
[05:06] <Pelo> aardvarken, cause no one speaks iit anymore ?
[05:06] <aardvarken> lol Pelo
[05:06] <RoC_MasterMind> ffm, this isn't windows, attitudes are different, configure it that way if you want it.
[05:06] <maco> TaRDy: the sun servers i use at school dont say SPARC when i uname -a them, at least
[05:06] <stuart> gleaken: yep Gutsy. OK found it. 2.5.1
[05:06] <ffm> RoC_MasterMind, Ok. How about presenting the option during install, since that improves security.
[05:06] <stuart> gleaken: Mark for re-install ?
[05:06] <ffm> RoC_MasterMind, I realize that.
[05:06] <timandtom> Pelo: I get an error trying to load "libstdc++.so.5". In Synaptic, theres 5 that start with libstdc++5
[05:06] <Pelo> evilbug,  ok when you say clean install is there another os on this computer ?
[05:06] <ezzieyguywu1> what script is hardy using for suspend? i don't think its /etc/acpi/sleep.sh because it doesn't recognize any changes to /etc/default/acpi-support. I think i read somewhere that hardy would use pmutils for suspend?
[05:07] <xkcdr0ckz> @Pelo: after clicking on the Compiz tab in Appearance, i get "The Composite extension is not available". next step?
[05:07] <Pelo> timandtom,  sounds like a winneer
[05:07] <simtower> my ubuntu is broken after update
[05:07] <RoC_MasterMind> ffm, I don't want to see that as a default, but I think your idea is part of the forward-thinking Ubuntu needs.  There is an idea tracker on ubuntu's website.
[05:07] <crdlb> xkcdr0ckz: please join #compiz-fusion
[05:07] <Crshman> is there a way to _more_ forcefully kill a process than "sudo killall" ?
[05:07] <xkcdr0ckz> @Pelo: when clicking on Normal or Extra for Visual Effects.
[05:07] <Pelo> xkcdr0ckz, re-install the xserver-xgl package you remove earlier
[05:07] <ffm> RoC_MasterMind, Mindstorm?
[05:07] <RoC_MasterMind> Crshman, yes...killall -9
[05:07] <maco> ffm: ideastorm
[05:07] <evilbug> Pelo- win xp,but i don't see why it would conflict with hardy since gutsy installed just fine after.
[05:07] <patifa> crashanddie: -9 flag
[05:07] <maco> ffm: this isnt legos :P
[05:07] <gleaken> stuart: yes, but before you do, make sure that it is listed as installed, at the bare minimum, the "python" and "python2.5" packages
[05:07] <crdlb> Pelo: he doesn't need that in hardy
[05:07] <Pelo> Crshman,  if it is a gui app ,  xkill  and then click on it
[05:08] <Pelo> crdlb, ok you take care of it
[05:08] <crdlb> Pelo: composite is just disabled because gutsy's restricted drivers manager disabled it for him
[05:08] <x1250> timandtom: you have to install libstdc++5 package
[05:08] <Crshman> RoC_MasterMind: that worked thanks!
[05:08] <simtower> could any help to fix my ubuntu stuck at login?
[05:08] <timandtom> x1250: Thanks :)
[05:08] <Crshman> Pelo: thanks for the suggestion!
[05:08] <patifa> just don't sudo kill the wrong thing, system will crash if a certain few are killed
[05:08] <stuart> gleaken: yep they are. Here goes *click*
[05:08] <mouseclone> simtower: what up? password?
[05:08] <Pelo> evilbug,  does the live cd work for you ? do you hve any data from ubuntu you need to save  ?
[05:08] <gleaken> stuart: I have python-apport and python-apt also installed
[05:08] <TaRDy> maco, sun has many servers available and some are SPARC
[05:08] <timandtom> x1250: To be installed: gcc-3.3-base. That sound right?
[05:08] <simtower> mouseclone: i updated to 8.04 now x locks up after I login
[05:09] <gleaken> stuart: see if you have those as well, don't worry about a reinstall, it should be harmless, considering your current situation
[05:09] <RoC_MasterMind> Crshman, it's the difference between asking the process to exit and having the kernel terminate it and free it's memory
[05:09] <maco> TaRDy: oh. i thought perhaps they had discontinued SPARC and were going to do just 64bit now
[05:09] <ffm> macd, Brainstorm. We're both wrong.
[05:09] <TaRDy> thank you samliu for the info, I had seen that but it is a little more than i want to be spending
[05:09] <maco> anyone here have experience making gfxboot go?
[05:09] <mandje> booting the live-cd. can you add options using [esc]?
[05:09] <simtower> how can i have ubuntu stop the startup application
[05:09] <Crshman> RoC_MasterMind: got it! i'll keep that in mind last time!
[05:09] <maco> ffm: oh right, thats dell's :P
[05:09] <mouseclone> simtower: ctrl+atl+F1 and you can log in fine there?
[05:09] <gleaken> stuart: also python-brlapi and python-cairo, those you may not need but they are probably installed already
[05:09] <evilbug> Pelo- the live cd works flawlessly and no,i don't have anything to save since i just installed gutsy :)
[05:09] <simtower> yes mouseclone
[05:09] <ffm> maco, Then there's storm, canonical's database thingie.
[05:10] <Crshman> THANKS to all those in here that are helping everyone.....i'm sure you don't hear this too often so i'm just saying thanks on behalf of all the frustrated new users!
[05:10] <gleaken> stuart: if you are having problems downloading because of the slow servers, we can change your repositories to a faster set
[05:10] <Pelo> maco, you need to uninstall grub and install a grub-gfxpackage  , check in the forum there are instructions
[05:10] <mouseclone> simtower: video card?
[05:10] <maco> Pelo: i did that, but the forum instructions dont work
[05:10] <Pelo> maco,  actualy  orry, this should work instructions for installing on ubuntu.
[05:10] <simtower> it is a radeon mobile
[05:10] <Pelo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[05:10] <Pelo> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/grub-gfxboot+for+Ubuntu+i386?content=71647
[05:10] <Pelo> if those aren'T enough or you are not using ubuntu , check in the other gfxboot themes that are available here some of the others have instructions
[05:10] <FloodBot2> Pelo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <andylcp> :(
[05:10] <stuart> gleaken: ok, are they all included in the wrapper package ?
[05:10] <maco> Pelo: im guessing because theyr from dapper-time not now
[05:10] <gleaken> stuart: unfortunately, I don't think so
[05:10] <stuart> gleaken: yes that might be an idea. It hasn't even started downloading yet
[05:10] <Pelo> maco,  goto gnome-look.org and search for gfxboot,  check in the themes availabe tehre are a few with instructions
[05:11] <simtower> mouseclone, FIREGL 9000
[05:11] <maco> Pelo: the second links to the first :P
[05:11] <ezzieyguywu1> what script is hardy using for suspend? i don't think its /etc/acpi/sleep.sh because it doesn't recognize any changes to /etc/default/acpi-support. I think i read somewhere that hardy would use pmutils for suspend?
[05:11] <ezzieyguywu1> does nobody know?
[05:11] <maco> Pelo: alright...
[05:11] <ffm> Crshman, Much appreciated.
[05:11] <gleaken> stuart: go to settings->repositories
[05:11] <patifa> Nemes: I don't think there's anything built-in to do that
[05:11] <stuart> gleaken: "The repository information has changed. You have to click on the "Reload" button for your changes to take effect"
[05:11] <gleaken> stuart: then, when that opens up, there is a "Download from:" entry, correct?
[05:11] <mandje> booting the live-cd. can you add options using [esc]?
[05:12] <gleaken> stuart: ok, did you select a better mirror?
[05:12] <mouseclone> simtower: so do you get anything to show up after login, or just a lock, or a crash?  and can you CTRL+ALT+Backspace?
[05:12] <Gman99999> unperson I just tried to mount the hard drive and i got this message sudo mount /dev/Macintosh HD /media/Macintosh HD
[05:12] <Gman99999> sudo: can't stat /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory
[05:12] <LSG> Is anyone else experiencing crappier Compiz animations in Hardy (than they were in Gutsy) ?
[05:12] <samliu> LSG: YES.
[05:12] <simtower> mouseclone it is orange background with gray box in the corner
[05:12] <Pelo> evilbug, ok  boot the live cd,  from tehre , go in menu > system > admin > gnome partiton editor,  fine the ubuntu partions  and remove it , then apply,  same for all the linuxpartion you ddon't want to use anyomre that have nothing on it  , leave the space unallocated,  then start the installation and tell it to instal on the unallocated space
[05:12] <gilad> hello there my fellows ubuntu users
[05:12] <MrGnu> Hi Pelo and Aaron.  I hope that someone could help me on this one.  Im in Hardy now and I want to attempt another install of Kubuntu (it failed last time in Gutsy when I did sudo apt-get install Kubuntu, I just have the working splash screen) can you advise what is my best course of action?
[05:12] <mouseclone> LSG: yes.. might be OpenGL
[05:12] <samliu> LSG, are you using nvidia drivers?
[05:12] <stuart> gleaken: I haven't got that far yet.  No...ATI
[05:13] <Gman99999> unperson how do i get rid of that?
[05:13] <timandtom> Pelo x1250: Ah, shweet, everything works good now :) Thanks
[05:13] <samliu> oh well lucky then, nvidia drivers have been a b*tch
[05:13] <Pelo> MrGnu, I would wait a few days before doign that ,  the servers are very busy ,   and it is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <TaRDy> Gman99999, did you throw in a \ before the space?
[05:13] <bzwingzero> I installed the Hardy Heron beta about a week ago and everything was working but one of the updates since broke my sound. How can I fix it? (Running a dell vostro 1500 aka inspiron 1520)
[05:13] <LSG> mouseclone: They worked very smoothly 1 hour ago using Gutsy on this same computer...
[05:13] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks! also please give me the command again for the removal of desktop volumes.
[05:13] <samliu> if you look up nvidia-glx-new in launchpad, you get like a billion hardy bugs haha
[05:13] <mandje> booting the live-cd. can you add options using [esc]?
[05:13] <Pelo> maco,  are you trying to isntall the gfxboot theme that matches the new hardy wallpaper ?
[05:13] <mouseclone> samliu:  nVidia have worked fine but just get some ghost images from the OpenGL
[05:14] <evilbug> Pelo- and format the partition with ext3,correct?
[05:14] <samliu> is anyone else mad that they took out XMMS? I hate not having themes for audacious
[05:14] <MrGnu> ok, I l wait a few days bro, thanks for leting me know
[05:14] <maco> Pelo: yeah
[05:14] <Gman99999> tardy nope i didnt
[05:14] <Pelo> evilbug, do not format , leave them blank
[05:14] <mdkitzman> Hello all, I was wondering if someone has had any problems with ATI cards and the new ubuntu?
[05:14] <TaRDy> try doing that before the space
[05:14] <Pelo> maco, ;)))))))))
[05:14] <mouseclone> LGS: yes I know I just got the install done about 1 hour ago
[05:14]  * Pelo made that
[05:14] <maco> Pelo: im trying renaming it to messag.ubuntu instead of its gnome-look name
[05:14] <samliu> mouseclone: I ended up using legacy drivers and my compiz fusion works fine :D