[17:48] <auronandace> server_: you have been told several times now, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 issues
[17:49] <LinuxApprentice> how do i change 'zane@ridicously-long-string-here' ?
[17:49] <LinuxApprentice> on the console prompt
[17:50] <Miscni> hubsinger, that is not installed
[17:50] <centooos> no answer? :(
[17:50] <server_> auronandace you i run that   or wht should i do
[17:51] <bazhang> server_, /join #ubuntu+1
[17:51] <auronandace> server_: type the following: /join #ubuntu+1
[17:51] <TheAlphaNerd> does anyone know how to set up apt-get to install through an ssh tunnel?
[17:51] <hubsinger> Miscni: wait a moment
[17:51] <TheAlphaNerd> been googling for a bit with no luck
[17:51] <thesingle> !list
[17:51] <dlentz> LinuxApprentice, do you actually want to change the hostname, or just the prompt?
[17:52] <Koheleth> lol server_ listen up :)
[17:52] <LinuxApprentice> dlentz, the hostname.
[17:52] <server_> i type it where?
[17:52] <hubsinger> Miscni: sry - but "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" must work ;-)
[17:52] <SpitfireWP> server_, into this chat.
[17:53] <auronandace> server_: here, where you are speaking to us'
[17:53] <dlentz> LinuxApprentice, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/change-hostname-computer-name-ubuntu-11-04-natty/
[17:53] <LinuxApprentice> k
[17:53] <Miscni> hubsinger, well that keyboard is not listed??? :S
[17:53] <Koheleth> server_:  /join #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <server_> join#ubuntu+1
[17:54] <LinuxApprentice> yay, now it's a simple 'zane@boobuntu'
[17:55] <ironhalik> how can I check if I used noveau kms during boot?
[17:55] <hubsinger> Miscni: generic 105 key or someting like that - or do you have s special one
[17:56] <hubsinger> Miscni: i don't know what you use in the north ;-)
[17:56] <Miscni> hubsinger, trying it out now
[17:56] <auronandace> ironhalik: lsmod will tell you what modules you have loaded
[17:57] <LinuxApprentice> was i supposed to install all updates for 10.10 before i upgraded to 11.04?
[17:58] <Alazare619> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11812271#post11812271
[17:59] <auronandace> LinuxApprentice: that would be wise yes
[17:59] <LinuxApprentice> auronandace, i didn't.....and it's already installing after clicking 'upgrade' so will it be a problem?
[18:00] <auronandace> LinuxApprentice: i'm not sure, i usually fresh install (less to go wrong that way)
[18:01] <LinuxApprentice> it should be ok
[18:02] <LinuxApprentice> it ran a script i guess to determine what needed to be upgraded/replaced
[18:02] <Miscni> hubsinger, sorry matey, that didn't work, but I will try another keyboard setting, but thx for the info matey, need to eat, the misses just called ;-)
[18:03] <Shara> hola
[18:03] <hubsinger> Miscni: enjoy your meal ;-)
[18:04] <Miscni> hubsinger, thx
[18:04] <tom_toc> Fyodorovna: Looks like my problem may not just be a monitor config problem.  Messing with the recovery mode of grub, edited the lines a bit and could see the boot process.
[18:05] <tom_toc> Fyodorovna: Seeing VFS: Cannot open root device "UID=blah blah" or unknown block(0,0)
[18:06] <tom_toc> Fyodorovna: then "Kernel panic  - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mout root fs on unkown block..
[18:06] <tom_toc> Looks like a hard drive issue :-(
[18:06] <corewillem> hello everyone
[18:06] <corewillem> i have a problem
[18:06] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Hmm. Is the UID correct? Can you get to a shell to check?
[18:07] <corewillem> i'm trying to get crossover 10 work
[18:07] <corewillem> in my ubuntu 12.04
[18:07] <auronandace> !12.04 | corewillem
[18:07] <tom_toc> bobo37773: I can load live CD and check
[18:07] <ikonia> corewillem: the cross-over support guys are the best people to ask
[18:07] <corewillem> but than it say that my python is wrong
[18:07] <tom_toc> bobo37773: it was all working before..
[18:07] <ikonia> corewillem: they will support you
[18:07] <diimdeep> https://gist.github.com/c54301affd00fb9a192f
[18:07] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Do you know how to chroot
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> corewillem: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[18:07] <corewillem> i dont have a expensiv call abbo
[18:07] <diimdeep> please help https://gist.github.com/c54301affd00fb9a192f
[18:08] <corewillem> precise
[18:08] <ikonia> corewillem: don't know what you just said, but cross-over is a comercial product
[18:08] <corewillem> is the output
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> corewillem: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[18:08] <corewillem> yeah i know
[18:08] <ikonia> corewillem: the cross-over support people will help y ou
[18:08] <corewillem> but for support you must pay
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> corewillem: so why ask here then..
[18:08] <ikonia> corewillem: that's how comercial products work
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> corewillem: no, its free for ubuntu support here
[18:08] <tom_toc> bobo37773: I have done it before but it's been a long time
[18:08] <bobo37773> corewillem: It's an interpretter problem. You probably need to change python to python2 or python2.7 etcetra in crossover
[18:09] <corewillem> yeah
[18:09] <ikonia> corewillem: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/
[18:09] <corewillem> but i need to install python
[18:09] <corewillem> nothing more nothing less
[18:09] <corewillem> is that so difficult ?
[18:09] <Dragin> How do I check to see if my Ubuntu firewall is blocking me from connecting to a server that I've been trying to get running for three days now? :(
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> corewillem: python is installed, your release is supported in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[18:09] <ikonia> corewillem: yes
[18:09] <bobo37773> corewillem: python should have been pulled in as a dependency. That isn't the problem
[18:09] <ikonia> bobo37773: it is the problem, it's an incompatible version of python
[18:10] <corewillem> and can't i install a compatible version
[18:10] <bobo37773> ikonia: Are you sure it's not crossover calling the wrong version?
[18:10] <hubsinger> corewillem: currently there are 40 people in #crossover
[18:10] <Unknown0BC> Is there a way to trun the "\|" key next to the "z" key to act like a "shift" key ?
[18:10] <corewillem> k i will check it out
[18:10] <pepee> Dragin, what firewall?
[18:10] <ikonia> bobo37773: pretty sure as the version it wants isn't in 12.04
[18:10] <mneptok> corewillem: you have 2 problems in this channel. you are using a commercial product that not many use, and you are using a pre-release version of Ubuntu. 12.04 questions belong elsewhere.
[18:10] <bobo37773> ikonia: Ah I see.
[18:11] <Dragin> default?
[18:12] <pepee> !firewall
[18:12] <bobo37773> ikonia: Is Ubuntu python3 default now?
[18:12] <mobilenoob11> Hey everyone. Is Evolution the best calendar app for ubuntu, or is there something elese I should know about?
[18:12] <Dragin> thanks
[18:12] <bobo37773> mobilenoob11: I use Evolution. Are you having a problem with it?
[18:12] <mobilenoob11> no
[18:13] <mobilenoob11> just like to get opinions
[18:13] <pepee> Dragin, check if the firewall is enabled with 'ufw status'
[18:13] <Dragin> checking
[18:13] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Maybe the UID got messed up during recovery. Hard to say. Doesn't sound like an hdd issue to me though
[18:13] <mobilenoob11> Is that off topic?
[18:13] <pepee> Dragin, it could be the remote machine that's blocking you
[18:14] <bobo37773> mobilenoob11: I like it best. That's my opinion. Wish it was a little more keyboard driven though. But pound for pound I think it is the best.
[18:14] <tom_toc> encouraging.  at a minium, I can probably backup my system (/home anyway) and reinstall ubuntu.. Not my favorite option, but a path forward.
[18:14] <Dragin> says it's inactive. I guess that blows that theory all to hell :(
[18:15] <mobilenoob11> Thanks!
[18:15] <tom_toc> I think I just need to fix he loading sequence... but maybe more.
[18:15] <ironhalik> ok, so I want to fix ugly plymouth on _nouveau_ drivers - any ideas? :) nouveaufb is being loaded, tty/splash on shutdown is high res, its just broken during boot
[18:16] <bobo37773> tom_toc: I don't know a whole lot about grub2 but you may be able to change the UID with the partition like sda3 sda4 whatever.
[18:17] <classroom> hello people
[18:17] <bobo37773> classroom: Hello person
[18:17] <pepee> Dragin, what do you want to do?
[18:17] <Dragin> the remote machine should be my router.... and I have the correct ports open
[18:17] <classroom> me i have questionnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[18:17] <Dragin> I am trying to run a TeamSpeak3 server
[18:17] <auronandace> ironhalik: i think it is just a cosmetic issue
[18:18] <classroom> <question having
[18:18] <classroom> has a question
[18:18] <bobo37773> classroom: Just ask. It's okay
[18:18] <bazhang> classroom, ask
[18:18] <classroom> okay
[18:18] <auronandace> classroom: we have answers, but to what questions? ask and find out
[18:18] <classroom> who can help me
[18:18] <pepee> Dragin, use netcat to test for open ports
[18:18] <madsy_> What's the latest Ubuntu version without Unity or where I can turn Unity off?
[18:18] <ironhalik> auronandace: sure it is, that doesnt fix the problem
[18:18] <bobo37773> classroom: Just ask!
[18:18] <bazhang> classroom, just ask
[18:18] <classroom> there are only  silly answers not silly questions!!!
[18:18] <Dragin> ok
[18:18] <classroom> okay:
[18:19] <Dragin> checking now
[18:19] <classroom> i want to set up ubuntu. before i use windows
[18:19] <pepee> Dragin, leave one port opened, and then   nc $external-IP $port
[18:19] <tom_toc> bobo37773: Yeah, that may be a good approach.  Thanks for the tips and suggestions..  Need to run to a meeting so I'll have to come back to this mess..Cheers!
[18:19] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Okay. Take care
[18:20] <auronandace> ironhalik: i've found plymouth doesn't look good with the nvidia binary drivers too, i know it doesn't solve your problem but at least you haven't lost any funcionality
[18:20] <bobo37773> classroom: Are you looking for an install tutorial? Where are you running into a problem?
[18:20] <tom_toc> bobo37773: is it possible to 'reinstall' ubuntu - over the current one... but keep my files?
[18:20] <ironhalik> auronandace: yeah, there are some fixes for that, sadly they dont work for me
[18:20] <classroom> i have problem
[18:20] <classroom> Leute hier is mein Sys info zeugs
[18:20] <formatproblem> I am trying to format a SD card but I get the following error, what should I do? http://pastebin.com/49HyM9AN
[18:20] <bazhang> classroom, yes you said that. ask a question, all on ONE line
[18:21] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Many things are possible. If you're asking me if I recommend it: No I don't.
[18:21] <tom_toc> bobo37773: I'm thinking., update all the OS stuff and leave everything else alone..
[18:21] <classroom> sorry for german.
[18:21] <ikonia> hi Lars
[18:21] <classroom> well i want to have a CD put on uubntu there
[18:21] <auronandace> !de | classroom
[18:21] <tom_toc> bobo37773: (that would be after I backup what I know I need...  It's just what I don't know i need..)
[18:21] <classroom> Well i downloaded ISO from ubuntu.com
[18:22] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Back up and just do a clean install.
[18:22] <xangua> classroom: did you read the instructions at ubunutu.com ¿
[18:22] <classroom> yes for sure
[18:22] <classroom> now i wanted burn the ISO on media
[18:22] <classroom> but he tells me there is no media in the disk burner!!!
[18:22] <xangua> classroom:  and then the problem is¿
[18:22] <classroom> can not understand this
[18:22] <tom_toc> bobo37773: that sounds like a good path.. Is there a reccomended backup approach, or just grab /home?
[18:23] <classroom> he tells no CD in recorder
[18:23] <auronandace> classroom: do you have a blank cd in the cd drive?
[18:23] <classroom> no
[18:23] <bobo37773> tom_toc: Use rsync to back up the whole thing if that's what you want. I usually back up /etc as I make a lot of changes there too. Also, you may want to create a list of all installed applications so you can install them back all at once.
[18:23] <classroom> have i ???
[18:24] <formatproblem> can someone tell me how can I solve my problem? http://pastebin.com/49HyM9AN
[18:24] <auronandace> classroom: you want to burn the iso to a blank cd?
[18:24] <classroom> no i havent , i looked
[18:24] <classroom> yes auronandance
[18:24] <auronandace> classroom: then you need a blank cd
[18:24] <tom_toc> bobo37773: yep, sounds like a good plan.   would rsych work to a local usb drive?
[18:24] <classroom> oh i thought i downloaded the iso and so there is some tbhen
[18:24] <classroom> why did i download the iso then if i have to buy cd
[18:25] <bekks> Because you cant burn the iso to air.
[18:25] <bekks> You have to have a blank cd to burn it to.
[18:25] <classroom> i thought i can burn iso on hard drive
[18:25] <bobo37773> tom_toc: As long as there is enough space. It's like cp. You tell it where to put the files. Pretty sure it is one of the switches.
[18:25] <auronandace> classroom: if you got the 11.10 iso you can also dd it to a usb stick
[18:25] <doherty> I want to collect system performance stats for a span of about 15 minutes, and then produce simple graphs of them, and then stop collecting stats. What's the easiest monitoring tool I can set up that'll generate PNG graphs of CPU usage, I/O, memory use, etc for me? My key requirement is quick and easy setup
[18:26] <classroom> okay then i do usb drive
[18:26] <bobo37773> classroom: You can't install without a cd for windows either. That's just not the way it works. You need to boot off of media to install
[18:26] <classroom> okaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy
[18:26] <classroom> i will fetch usb drive
[18:26] <classroom> how big must be usb drive
[18:26] <bazhang> !enter | classroom
[18:27] <auronandace> classroom: as big as the iso
[18:27] <classroom> but how  big is iso ?? 700 gb right=
[18:27] <bekks> No. 700MB.
[18:27] <classroom> ok
[18:27] <auronandace> classroom: i hope you mean 700mb
[18:27] <doherty> classroom: megabytes O.O
[18:27] <classroom> yes for sure
[18:27] <bekks> So a 1GB stick will be ok.
[18:27] <pikkachu> what's the name of the menu which hides and show on the left?
[18:27] <classroom> well then i have a question
[18:28] <classroom> are 1 gb usb drive enough??????????????????????????
[18:28] <trism> pikkachu: in unity? the launcher
[18:28] <bekks> classroom: Read what I just wrote.
[18:28] <imachine> ubottu, most def one '?' is enough
[18:28] <classroom> ok
[18:28] <imachine> oops, classroom ;]
[18:28] <auronandace> classroom: yes, as bekks just said
[18:28] <classroom> okkkkkkkkkk
[18:28] <classroom> good
[18:28] <classroom> i will try it and if i found
[18:29] <classroom> a usb druive which bigger 1 gb is
[18:29] <classroom> then i will report it later to you
[18:29] <classroom> is that okay for you
[18:29] <imachine> good luck
[18:29] <classroom> thank you madame
[18:29] <tom_toc> bobo37773: thanks!
[18:29] <imachine> hardly a madame
[18:29] <classroom> see you auronancdace
[18:29] <classroom> see you bekks
[18:29] <classroom> see you i machine
[18:29] <imachine> lates
[18:29] <auronandace> !tab | classroom
[18:30] <classroom> ok
[18:30] <classroom> !tab | classroom
[18:30] <bazhang> classroom, stop that
[18:30] <classroom> hahaha this is fubby
[18:30] <classroom> funny
[18:30] <Rudeboy> Can someone please explain to me how to properly install a package on Ubuntu? I've tried soo many times, but can't get it right. I download the package, cd to it, then ./configure, then make, then make install. Am I doing something wrong?
[18:30] <pikkachu> trism: thanks
[18:30] <classroom> can he more then this?
[18:30] <pikkachu> is there any way to move the unity launcher to the right?
[18:31] <classroom> pikkachu: no sorry
[18:31] <bazhang> classroom, /msg ubottu
[18:31] <classroom> pikkachu: it is left!
[18:31] <auronandace> Rudeboy: yes, that is called compiling, most packages are available in the package manager
[18:31] <tdlam> hi folks
[18:31] <pikkachu> classroom: how about Precise?
[18:31] <auronandace> !software | Rudeboy
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Rudeboy: that's compilating. Packages are precompiled binaries
[18:31] <classroom> pikkachu: i do not like precise
[18:31] <classroom> !msg ubottu
[18:31] <tdlam> can anyone tell me where the .config folder is located in xubuntu?
[18:32] <bazhang> !ot | classroom
[18:32] <bekks> tdlam: In your home, cd ~/.config
[18:32] <Rudeboy> What is the difference between installing and compiling?
[18:32] <tdlam> ok ty checking
[18:32] <Rudeboy> Or, why would you comile a package?
[18:32] <classroom> okay
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: there is an unsupported PPA to put it on the bottom
[18:32] <Rudeboy> compile
[18:32] <bekks> Rudeboy: Compiling is the process of generating binaries to install them afterwards.
[18:33] <classroom> on the bottom??????????????????????????? Actionparsnip this is real not good
[18:33] <Rudeboy> So once compiled, I can then install it?
[18:33] <auronandace> !checkinstall | Rudeboy
[18:33] <tdlam> @ bekkes: TY my firend I found it all the best to you
[18:33] <Unknown0BC> Oh cool I think I found it.
[18:33] <Unknown0BC> :D
[18:34] <hugenumber> Can I get ssh to stop prompting for passwd after authorizedkeyfile login?
[18:34] <Dragin> sorry it took me so long pepee... the UDP times out, and the two tcp's succeed
[18:34] <auronandace> Rudeboy: always best to check if there is what you want in the package manager
[18:34] <auronandace> Rudeboy: compiling should be a last resort
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Rudeboy: deb packages make installing and uninstalling easy. If you compile you can make a deb of your efforts but most stuff you need is in software centre
[18:34] <pepee> Dragin, check in the router if the udp port is open. also, use the -u flag with netcat
[18:35] <Dragin> ok
[18:35] <classroom> ,hello i have to SAY SOMETHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:35] <Rudeboy> just got a call, brb
[18:35] <Th3> hi
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Thanks
[18:35] <Dragin> you just did classroom :P
[18:35] <bobweaver> Hello there I have a question about start services mainly lightdm. I would like to stop lightdm from starting on startup. So that there is just a cli sign in. How would one do this ?
[18:35] <auronandace> classroom: please behave
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: add the boot option: text
[18:36] <Th3> My internet speed is v.slow while using backtrack 5 but extremely fast while using windows
[18:36] <Th3> any ideas why?
[18:36] <auronandace> !backtrack | Th3
[18:36] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: a unity 3d plugin right? I just searched a bit and it seems buggy
[18:36] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  sorry I do not follow could you explain a little more
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Th3: backtrack isn't supported here
[18:36] <bazhang> Th3, #backtrack-linux for that
[18:36] <bastidrazor> bobweaver: you could add 'text' to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=   then update grub. this would boot you to a cli login
[18:37] <bobweaver> this is a server also ActionParsnip
[18:37] <Th3> where do i go? ._.
[18:37] <bazhang> Th3, /join #backtrack-linux
[18:37] <Th3> tanks
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Th3: #backtrack-Linux
[18:37] <bastidrazor> bobweaver: /etc/default/grub   ..is the file you would add 'text' to.. then 'sudo update-grub'
[18:38] <hugenumber> Would some one be able to help me with a SSH config
[18:38] <esuave> what does putting a script in the /etc/rc.d/init.d/ file do?
[18:38] <auronandace> !upstart | esuave
[18:38] <bobweaver> bastidrazor,  this is a server xen bastidrazor  need to keep grub the way it is thanks thou
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: the server OS boots to cli anyway. bastidrazor explained it for you
[18:39] <Dragin> pepee, this is what I type, along with my output... I opened the router myself, so I know that is done. root@Linux:~# nc -v -n -z -u <IP_ADDRESS> 9987 9987
[18:39] <Dragin> root@Linux:~#
[18:39] <bobweaver> esuave, that is also for start up corect but is there not a rc something else ?
[18:40] <bobo37773> bobweaver: Try adding "3" to your grub command line (without the quotes of course). Try it while booting to make sure it is what you want.
[18:40] <trism> bobweaver: if you are interested in disabling services on boot with upstart, see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting (specifically the override file section)
[18:40] <bobweaver> update-rc.d -f lightdm remove    ?? would work ?
[18:41] <trism> bobweaver: no, it would not
[18:41] <satyanash> Hi, How do I close windows in irssi?
[18:41] <Myrtti> satyanash: /wc
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: the text bootoption only changes the fact you boot to cli instead of graphical login, nothing else is changed
[18:41] <bobweaver> thanks I am reading them links
[18:41] <Myrtti> satyanash: or /window close :-P
[18:41] <bobo37773> satyanash: are you trying to close completely or just leave a channel?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> satyanash:    /win cl
[18:41] <pepee> Dragin, try typing something when connecting through udp
[18:41] <pikkachu> what's a dash?
[18:41] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  so the system reboots once a day but I can not be there when it reboots
[18:41] <pikkachu> the gnome dash iirc
[18:42] <satyanash> Also, How do I list all windows/channels/servers ?
[18:42] <alusion_> Hello ubuntu, I have a problem with  Chromium everytime I go on youtube it would crash
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: or:   /win cl number
[18:42] <alusion_> Any fix for this?
[18:42] <Steevca> I have just upgraded ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04,and i can't get network to work.I have a DSL Modem.I also have two network cards,but i only use one because the second isn't working,can the other one cause problems?
[18:42] <iceroot> Steevca: #ubuntu+1
[18:42] <Steevca> iceroot, ok,sure.
[18:42] <auronandace> why are people updating to development versions?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: it clearly states precise isn't supported here when you join the channel
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: no idea at all...
[18:43] <Steevca> ActionParsnip, i didn't notice,i apologize.
[18:43] <iceroot> auronandace: people always need the newest software
[18:43] <alusion_> My chromium cannot play youtube videos everytime I try it would crash
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: its cool :-)
[18:44] <iceroot> auronandace: seems that newer is something like better for them
[18:44] <pikkachu> is gnome dash conflicting with unity launcher?
[18:44] <Dragin> root@Linux:~# nc -v -n -z -u <IP_ADDRESS> 9987 9987 boo
[18:44] <Dragin> root@Linux:~#
[18:45] <iceroot> Dragin: please dont run a root-shell
[18:45] <iceroot> !sudo | Dragin
[18:45] <Rudeboy> So sorry guys, had to take a call, back now though. I can't use the Ubuntu Software Centre at the moment as my connection is too slow where I am, so I have to rely on using the downloaded version of the program
[18:45] <yandex3829> There's nothing wrong with running as root
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'       thanks
[18:45] <auronandace> iceroot: i still don't understand the mindset though, why not use a rolling release then like arch that uses the latest stable version (oh well, ending off-topic rant)
[18:46] <Dragin> how else do I connect to root so I can do the things I need to get done?
[18:46] <pikkachu> how about gnome do
[18:46] <Myrtti> Dragin: use sudo
[18:46] <bekks> Dragin: By connecting as user and then using sudo
[18:46] <Dragin> typed it out too fast
[18:46] <Myrtti> Dragin: "sudo nc -v -n..."
[18:46] <Dragin> thanks all... vummm... why?
[18:46] <Dragin> vummm = ummm
[18:46] <alusion_> do I input that into terminal?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: copy it as one and run it as one command
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: yes in ter
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Terminal*
[18:47] <bobweaver> trism,  thanks so much for the links Helps big time
[18:48] <Dragin> output remains the same... just makes me put in my pw first
[18:48] <Rudeboy> I just tried sudo apt-get install httrack, is it really that simple?
[18:48] <Rudeboy> Just waiting for it to finish
[18:48] <auronandace> Rudeboy: yes, thats what package management is for
[18:49] <Rudeboy> Oh wow :)
[18:49] <alusion_> http://pastebin.com/wsNtuFnh
[18:49] <auronandace> Rudeboy: the software centre is just a frontend for apt-get
[18:49] <Rudeboy> So stoked:)
[18:49] <pikkachu> what's the relation between gnome do and unity launcher?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Rudeboy: its rare in ubuntu to manually download apps to install
[18:49] <zykotick9> auronandace: and apt-get is just a front end to dpkg ;)
[18:50] <Rudeboy> ActionParsnip: Thank goodness, cause it looks super difficult
[18:50] <Steevca> What is the best solution to access the ubuntu partition from windows>
[18:50] <Steevca> ?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: both use compiz....that's about it really
[18:50] <iceroot> Dragin: using a root-shell is evil because you are starting everything as root
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Stee
[18:50] <Dragin> thanks lol
[18:50] <tim`> has anyone run into issues with python-qwt5-qt4 on 12.04 beta 2 ?
[18:50] <iceroot> Dragin: also there is a good chance then you use a wrong command and kill your system
[18:50] <iceroot> Dragin: killing the system is normally only possible as root
[18:51] <bazhang> tim`, #ubuntu+1 please
[18:51] <Dragin> that would sucketh
[18:51] <iceroot> Dragin: because of that please use a non-root-shell and if you need root-access use sudo
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: you can't if you used the default ext4 and mean on the same system
[18:51] <auronandace> Rudeboy: rarely should you ever have to compile anything, most things are available in the repos
[18:51] <Rudeboy> When I try search in the main Search, it only looks for files and folders. How do I change it back to look for applications as well?
[18:51] <alusion_> You see the link ActionParsnip?
[18:51] <Dragin> thanks vfor the tips iceroot :)
[18:51] <Rudeboy> In the Dashboard
[18:51] <Rudeboy> auronandace: Thanks :)
[18:51] <Dragin> and the explaination
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: just checking
[18:52] <alusion_> I feel like its going to be a silly mistake I'm running a relatively fresh install
[18:52] <pepee> Dragin, my netcat works this way: nc -nvul -p $PORT  #listens  , nc -nvu $IP $PORT  #connects
[18:52] <Rudeboy> Let me re-phrase my question so it makes more sense ha ha:) How do I change the Dashboard search options, cause it;s only finding files and folders now, when it was finding applications as well
[18:52] <excelsior> do I need to back up my thumb-drive before using unetbootin to make it an install thumbdrive?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> excelsior,  always a good idea to have backups
[18:53] <sanjeev_sh> how can i upgrade my ubuntu from a private mirror(e.g from a mirror at http://xyz.com)?
[18:53] <excelsior> but if I don't, will it wipe my data?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> excelsior,  unetbootin has options both ways i belive. I never use it.
[18:53] <mdwrigh2> Has anyone managed to get adb working on 12.04 beta2, 64bit?
[18:53] <bekks> excelsior: BAck it up.
[18:53] <Dr_willis> excelsior,  data worth keeping - is worth backing up
[18:54] <auronandace> !12.04 | mdwrigh2
[18:54] <Dragin> pepee, I tried that syntax and it basically told me it was outdated, and to use the one I used
[18:54] <bazhang> mdwrigh2, #ubuntu+1 please
[18:54] <excelsior> fair enough, I'll tell my friend to back it up first
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: uninstall flashplugin-installer, enable the partner repo in software centre and install adobe-flashplugin. 64bit flash for 64bit OS
[18:55] <Dragin> is there a quick way (i.e. command) to find out your version?
[18:55] <Rudeboy> I just installed Httrack, but now when I look for it in installed applications it's not there. When I try install again it says already installed?
[18:55] <zykotick9> Dragin: "lsb_release -a"
[18:55] <Dragin> thankies
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Dragin: lsb_release -sc
[18:55] <alusion_> Thanks a lot :D gunna do that now
[18:55] <auronandace> !info httrack
[18:55] <bekks> Rudeboy: httrack isnt a graphical application, so it wont show up in a menu.
[18:55] <Snaggle> is there a way to search which ubuntu package would provide a certain file?
[18:55] <pepee> Dragin, dpkg -l | grep netcat
[18:56] <auronandace> Rudeboy: sounds like it might be a commandline program
[18:56] <Rudeboy> bekks: oh.. where can I find out how to use it?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Snaggle: for installed packages: dpkg -S filename
[18:56] <auronandace> Rudeboy: try: man httrack
[18:56] <Snaggle> ActionParsnip: not yet installed.  trying to find what I would need to get
[18:57] <Dragin> lsb: command not found
[18:57] <bekks> Rudeboy: Open a terminal, type httrack
[18:57] <bekks> Dragin: The command was "lsb_release -a"
[18:57] <pepee> Snaggle, apt-file
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Snaggle: then you'll need apt-file
[18:57] <Rudeboy> auronandace: What is man? Manage?
[18:58] <auronandace> Rudeboy: manpage
[18:58] <Dragin> oh... missed that underscore
[18:58] <Dragin> thanks
[18:58] <zykotick9> Rudeboy: "man man" ;)
[18:58] <pepee> man is a command, to reaf manpages
[18:58] <pepee> *read
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: man woman
[18:58] <tyler_d> zykotick9: there is no manual entry for women
[18:58] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: segfault
[18:58] <tyler_d> he he he
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Always makes me laugh as does sl
[18:59] <tyler_d> slow locamotive
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Yeya
[18:59] <tyler_d> :D
[18:59] <zykotick9> did you know sl has themes?
[18:59] <GenGy> ciao
[18:59] <GenGy> !list
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Yeah?
[19:00] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: "man sl" ;)
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: man sl    I guess
[19:00] <Rudeboy> auronandace: Ah, I understand now:) It's showing all the command line options:) Ok great, think I can do it from here. Thanks so much for the help :)
[19:00] <sae> Hi. Did the automatic update to 10.04.4 and now flash player doesn't work. Please help.
[19:00] <bobo37773> sae: Doesn't work at all?
[19:00] <pepee> sae reinstall the flash player installer package
[19:00] <alusion_> Action, there's a ton of bad reviews for the Adobe Flash Plugin 10, was there another one you might of been referring to?
[19:00] <pepee> whatever its name is
[19:01] <matt_symes> hi
[19:01] <sae> bobo37773: doesn't work at all - tried youtube, flash games, nothing
[19:01] <Xabster> I have downloaded and installed some library with sudo apt-get install libsvn-java and now Eclipse is telling me that library is too old - how do I check what version I got from the repos?
[19:01] <auronandace> Rudeboy: no worries :)
[19:01] <sae> pepee: thank you. I did that. but still the same
[19:01] <pepee> sae, or configure the browser, check if it finds the plugin file
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: that's 2 things to play with later (transgui dev fixed the white box bug, excited)
[19:01] <matt_symes> anybody know if there is a better way to see if there is a blank dvd in a drive than grepping dvd+rw-mediainfo ? I want to script something.
[19:01] <bobo37773> sae: Reinstall flash. Make sure your web browser is closed when you do.
[19:01] <sae> pepee: firefox lists it as installed plugin
[19:02] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: don't get too excited, there are only 2 other versions ;)  "apt-cache search transgui" gives me nothing - what's transgui?
[19:02] <sae> bobo37773: thank you. I tried that too. Even opened firefox from terminal to see any error messages, but nothing.
[19:02] <pepee> sae, should be working :/
[19:03] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: transmission gui - gotcha
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: it a gui for transmission to connect to a server with the web ui enabled.
[19:03] <sae> ok. I will try again.
[19:04] <bastidrazor> i use ktorrents web ui.. i like it
[19:04] <pepee> I use utorrent + wine
[19:04] <zykotick9> rtorrent in screen ftw ;)
[19:04] <sae> any way to complete purge it before reinstall? Special method for reinstallation to consider?
[19:04] <pepee> last versions don't work well :/
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: same kinda deal but this is an app you can associate torrent f
[19:05] <pepee> sae apt-get remove --purge package
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Files with
[19:05] <sae> pepee: thank you :)
[19:05] <subthalamus> zykotick9: pyroscope
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Pepee: there is a native utorrent...
[19:05] <pepee> ActionParsnip, lots of them
[19:06] <pepee> but I like utorrent :)
[19:06] <zykotick9> subthalamus: look interesting - thanks.
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Pepee: no, just one utorrent....utorrent
[19:07] <GeminiDomino> Strange problem with Lucid server install. I've got two on-board NICs but the OS is only giving me eth0. I tried to force eth1 with ifconfig, but no dice.  I know it's not a driver issue, since they're the same ports on the same mobo. Any ideas?
[19:07] <bekks> GeminiDomino: Can you see it with ifconfig -a ?
[19:07] <GeminiDomino> bekks: Nope
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Pepee: utorrent is a client, there is a Linux version so wine isn't needed
[19:07] <bekks> GeminiDomino: Then yoyu cant use ifconfig to configure it.
[19:07] <pepee> ActionParsnip, ah, I read wrong
[19:08] <Nephro> offtop: is there any good GUI tool for todo lists? I really need one, since I seem to forget things after I get excited about something
[19:08] <GeminiDomino> bekks: I know. That's the problem
[19:08] <bekks> GeminiDomino: You need to load the driver first.
[19:08] <pepee> ActionParsnip, I found a utorrent server
[19:08] <pepee> not the same as utorrent
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: xpad, tomboy
[19:08] <GeminiDomino> Wouldn't the driver already be loaded since it's the same hardware as eth0?
[19:08] <bekks> Obviously it isnt the same hardware.
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Pepee: yes its web access only, runs in the background
[19:09] <formatproblem> is there any command to see neighboring PC in my network?
[19:09] <Nephro> ActionParsnip, isn't tomboy a note app?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Pepee: its made by the same guys. Its utorrent
[19:09] <KM0201> isn't that wwhat you asked for Nephro ?
[19:09] <pepee> yeah
[19:09] <formatproblem> is there any command to see neighboring PC in my network?
[19:09] <pepee> but I like the windows gui
[19:09] <hugenumber> formatproblem i use iftop
[19:10] <formatproblem> thanks
[19:10] <pepee> formatproblem, nmap?
[19:10] <KM0201> formatproblem: search synaptic for a program called "pyneighborhood" or something like that
[19:10] <Andi_M_> hi folks, anyone in here know a lot about SWFs and Ubuntu compatibility?
[19:10] <Nephro> KM0201, not really, I'd like a thing that I could add tasks to, prioritize them, etc, mark them completed
[19:10] <GeminiDomino> bekks: they're both coming off the same on-board controller.
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: sure but you can write lists in notes. One note for each list
[19:10] <jimbo> some one speak spanish?
[19:10] <bobo37773> formatproblem: You mean see if someone else is on your network?
[19:10] <bazhang> Andi_M_, the file format?
[19:10] <Xabster> I have downloaded and installed some library with sudo apt-get install libsvn-java and now Eclipse is telling me that library is too old - how do I check what version I got from the repos?
[19:10] <josten> How do I import bookmarks and then my ubuntu dreams will be will be filled?
[19:10] <pepee> jimbo, yo
[19:10] <pepee> !es | jimbo
[19:10] <bazhang> jimbo, in #ubuntu-es
[19:10] <jimbo> thanks
[19:11] <GeminiDomino> At least, they should be
[19:11] <Nephro> ActionParsnip, I can't believe there aren't apps developed specifically for todo lists
[19:11] <bazhang> Nephro, sticky notes? or calendar
[19:11] <Andi_M_> bazhang: I have 3 SWFs that were running standalone on Windows that I need to port to an Ubuntu install.  1 is a container which then calls the other 2, a video and a game inside it.  They all work individually, but when I run the container, the video just shows a black screen, all the rest of it works...
[19:12] <Nephro> seems I'll have to implement one myself.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: there may be, search software centre. I'm not knowledgable of EVERY package available
[19:12] <sae> pepee: do you know the exact name of the package?
[19:12] <Andi_M_> bazhang: I've tried installing codecs and whatnot thinking it might be that then realized it works if I run it on it's own.  Unfortunately I don't have the original FLAs as this was done 5 years ago.  I tried to decompile but SWFDecompiler took my money and never gave me a valid license key and they're tech is in China now, lol.
[19:12] <aondmm> muhehehehe
[19:12] <aondmm> check FB :D
[19:13] <bazhang> aondmm, ?
[19:13] <KM0201> Andi_M_: you paid for a linux app?
[19:13] <pepee> sae, no, but you can check: dpkg -l | grep flashplayer
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !find todo
[19:13] <Andi_M_> KM0201: lol, mac
[19:13] <sae> pepee: thank you
[19:13] <KM0201> Andi_M_: ah, ok.. :)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !info gtodo
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: ^ found with near zero effort
[19:14] <Nephro> ActionParsnip, thanks, I found it too :)
[19:14] <killer_> no D-BUS daemon running
[19:14] <killer_> is the errror
[19:15] <pepee> people should be introduced to apt, dpkg and aptitude before installing ubuntu
[19:15] <pepee> those three do all the work for you :)
[19:16] <Giourgia> Hello. I have made a clean installation of ubuntu 11.10 and I have some really weird issue with the sound. It a scratching sounding like disaster! I've made all upgrades and I'm using 3.0.0-17 kernel
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> pepee: no, let them use software centre. Its more user friendly
[19:16] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: ok but I'm afraid of using it because it seems a bottom positioned launcher, not something that changes the position of the original launcher
[19:16] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find symbols I create on my German keyboard with AltGr+<key> (like » « „ “ ” · › ‹ × ÷ … – — ’) on a US keyboard in Ubuntu?
[19:17] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: that is, I need to trust that the PPA will be always up to date with original launcher
[19:17] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415?comments=all
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[19:17] <Giourgia> I forgot to mention that this only happens with VLC
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: yes, known issues
[19:18] <pepee> ActionParsnip, yeah, unless the software centre doesn't work...
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Giourgia: tried the vlc ppa
[19:18] <killer_> no D-BUS DAEMON RUNNING...WHAT TO DO
[19:18] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: sounds like they don't want to fix it, sad because it's annoying to accidentally click on items in the launcher just because it appeared suddenly (I think I've read in Precise it will be always shown by default but no better than moving)
[19:18] <DasEi> !info ascii | vlt
[19:18] <bekks> killer_: starting it would be the first option :)
[19:18] <pikkachu> in Oneiric, is it possible to set the launcher to always be shown?
[19:19] <Giourgia> no I use the repository version
[19:19] <killer_> bekks : how to do it
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: its fairly stationary, yes
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !info vlc
[19:19] <bekks> killer_: "sudo service dbus start"
[19:20] <hugenumber> anyone here use fluxbox?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Giourgia: http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/02/vlc-20-twoflower-released-install-in.html
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> hugenumber: i use openbox which fluxbox is based on
[19:21] <Giourgia> will try ppa and report back
[19:22] <Combatjuan> I'm trying to figure out if I have 32bit or 64 bit ubuntu installed.  uname says that it is 2.6.24-33-server.
[19:22] <esuave> Combatjuan: uname -a
[19:22] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, I've got about 2GB of RAM and a laptop HDD I don't want being constantly accessed by firefox/plugin-container/adobe's flash plugin. Is it possible for me to put both firefox and the adobe flash plugin into a ramdisk with relative ease (supporting libraries included)?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Combatjuan: u
[19:23] <Combatjuan> esuave: Oh wow.  It says x86_64, I just didn't see it.  Thanks.
[19:23] <esuave> np :P
[19:23] <Unknown0BC> Ok, its really easy to set up a wireless network between to pc's using ubuntu right ?
[19:23] <Th3> herro
[19:23] <Th3> anybody know where i could get help?
[19:23] <bazhang> th3 for bt?
[19:23] <Unknown0BC> But how ?
[19:24] <Unknown0BC> right it must be an ad-hoc connection yes ?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Unknown0BC: you can setup adhoc wifi using network manager
[19:25] <Giourgia> Unfortunately with VLC 2.0.2 the sound is still scratchy like hell
[19:25] <VGoff> Does anyone know how to unpin packages that don't seem to modify the three files (as they don't exist) as mentioned in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto?
[19:25] <Unknown0BC> ActionParsnip, Yeah i'm figuring.
[19:25] <Unknown0BC> wondering about the security model...
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Giourgia: try: rm -r ~/.config/vlc    after closing the app
[19:26] <foobArrr> CharminTheMoose: arch wiki has a nice description about firefox profile on a ramdisk: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox_Ramdisk   I have no idea about flash, though
[19:26] <Unknown0BC> ah probably passphrase...
[19:26] <Unknown0BC> mmm
[19:27] <Giourgia> that didn't help either.
[19:27] <Andi_M_> aha, update on the flash video issue if anyone cared, it was a 404... /me is being stupid again :D
[19:28] <Guest382> --help
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> CharminTheMoose: install preload and set vm.swappiness to 10. May help
[19:29] <Giourgia> changing the audio output module in VLC temporarily fixes the problem but after reboot it comes back
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Giourgia: are there bugs reported?
[19:30] <Giourgia> I'm trying to find sth similar but no success
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Giourgia: did you delete the folder?
[19:31] <CharminTheMoose> Oh cool, thanks for that foobArrr and ActionParsnip. I'll get reading up on both of 'em
[19:31] <Giourgia> yes I did
[19:32] <sae> pepee: no luck. This is an older PC - AMD 2600+ with GeForce MX 440 AGP. CAn I go roll back the upgrade somehow?
[19:33] <Giourgia> some update must caused this
[19:33] <bekks> sae: By using your backup.
[19:33] <sae> pepee: I disabled all other plugins, and restarted. But no luck.
[19:33] <sae> bekks: :) thank you - I wish I had one.
[19:35] <Giourgia> I suspect this might be it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/751265
[19:36] <rebe> how can I check what fonts are installed ?
[19:38] <Xabster> Does ubuntu have a firewall install out of the box? If so, can it be the cause of my port forwardings are not working?
[19:38] <CellTech> Any way to speed up this disk caching thing before I smash my computer? :D
[19:39] <Giourgia> Xabster: It does have iptables but its not configured by default
[19:39] <Xabster> so any and all connections should be open both ways, Giourgia ?
[19:39] <Xabster> unless I did something
[19:39] <Giourgia> iptables does not block anything normally
[19:40] <Unknown0BC> Ok, I knew setting up a wireless network between two pc's on ubuntu is easy.
[19:41] <Unknown0BC> But what I don't know, is why its not working...
[19:41] <Unknown0BC> lol
[19:41] <Unknown0BC> so I use network-manager
[19:41] <sae> bekks: any way to re-run the upgrade?
[19:41] <Unknown0BC> I use "new wireless network" from the menu
[19:42] <bekks> sae: It is updated already. All you could do is to install the package in question again - whats the exact problem so far?
[19:42] <Unknown0BC> I make it ad-hoc
[19:42] <Unknown0BC> I give it a security key.
[19:42] <ironhalik> Can I access a /dev/video stream, over ssh, using vlc? :)
[19:42] <Unknown0BC> and give it a manual ip address under IPv4.
[19:42] <Unknown0BC> the local machine seems to connect to this network.
[19:43] <Unknown0BC> The remote machines does not see the new network.
[19:43] <Unknown0BC> I dunno I never made it invisible or hidden.
[19:43] <scientes> why does apparmor eat so much CPU on boot?
[19:43] <scientes> it makes my boot slow
[19:43] <trism> rebe: you could try installing font-manager, it allows you to browse through your installed fonts
[19:43] <sae> bekks: firefox and flash plugin. It is listed in the plugins list , but no flash is playing.
[19:43] <txomon> hi, I have a broadcom chipset. I deactivated the propietary driver, and now I want to activate it again, but it is not getting activated (lspci doesn't show it as being used=
[19:43] <txomon> )
[19:43] <tyler_d> scientes: it needs to verify packages and apps to ensure authenticity and rules
[19:44] <Unknown0BC> excuse me, I've just never set up a network on Ubuntu, but I thought i'd be done already.
[19:44] <Unknown0BC> hah
[19:44] <Unknown0BC> !
[19:44] <tyler_d> scientes: you can I believe modify what app armour actually watches and checks, but its not advisable.
[19:44] <Unknown0BC> So if the new network appears visible on the machine I've set it up on, but not on the other pc.
[19:44] <scientes> ahh so selinux might be faster cause its based on lables
[19:45] <scientes> does it actually checksum binaries tyler_d ?
[19:45] <Unknown0BC> mmm ?
[19:45] <Unknown0BC> very weird.
[19:45] <GeminiDomino> Yeah, this is wierd. One NIC is detected by lspci as 8257L gigabit ethernet (using the e1000 driver, per lshw) , and the other is only coming up as "Device 1502" which would seem, from all my googling, to also use the e1000 driver.
[19:45] <Unknown0BC> Easy as hell to set up a network on Ubuntu, what am I missing ?
[19:45] <rebe> how can I check if anti-aliasing is on or off on fonts ?
[19:45] <sae> bekks: happend after the automatic upgrade to 10.04.4
[19:45] <scientes> does ubuntu have the capability of some sort of trusted boot tyler_d ?
[19:46] <scientes> tyler_d, and forcing stuff to come from repos?
[19:46] <Unknown0BC> the local machine connects to itself.
[19:46] <Unknown0BC> Great the other pc sees no network.
[19:46] <Unknown0BC> of that name.
[19:46] <tyler_d> scientes: I'm not sure I know what you mean... by "Trusted Boot" that is in part the direction and objective of apparmor.
[19:47] <scsinutz> is it possible to untar a file over http?
[19:47] <tyler_d> scientes: as far as forcing things from repos... modify your sources for installation you mean? or are you talking manual compilation/installation?
[19:47] <Unknown0BC> shall I reboot it ?
[19:47] <Unknown0BC> I don't think that will help.
[19:47] <Unknown0BC> Well now. Guys what am I missing ?
[19:48] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: what is the problem here?
[19:48] <scientes> tyler_d, im talking about locking down the platform
[19:48] <scientes> but still allowing installation/uninstallation tyler_d
[19:48] <scientes> i want the person to still feel they own it
[19:48] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, I am just trying to set up a wireless network between two ubuntos.
[19:48] <Unknown0BC> Ubuntu PC's.
[19:48] <Nanegoto> I do not have rights to write in the other  partitions of my hard drive... help pls ! The fs is ext4
[19:49] <scientes> tyler_d, what i mean is have it hooked to the booting process, like uEFI secure boot
[19:49] <tyler_d> scientes: I don't know tbh
[19:49] <Unknown0BC> the other machine does not see the new network I created on the one.
[19:49] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: to what end? what are  you trying to accomplish by this?
[19:50] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d ! what are networks for ?
[19:50] <Unknown0BC> lol !!!
[19:51] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: what and why are you trying to configure a wireless adhoc network between 2 machines
[19:51] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: whats the end goal?
[19:51] <LinuxApprentice> hi
[19:51] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, to tansfer data at a good rate.
[19:51] <Unknown0BC> better than bluetooth.
[19:51] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: then wireless is deff not the answer
[19:51] <Unknown0BC> without any wires.
[19:52] <Unknown0BC> I don't have wires.
[19:52] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: and your opposed to a wireless router why?
[19:52] <Giourgia> I found a solution to the VLC sound mayhem. thanks for the help.
[19:52] <Unknown0BC> and don't want wires.
[19:52] <LinuxApprentice> i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and I was using the proprietary broadcom wireless driver but now on completing the upgrade there is no option for wireless networks on the network-manager on the panel. why is this?
[19:52] <Unknown0BC> I don't have a router.
[19:52] <Jordan_U> scientes: UEFI secure boot is of limited value, and it probably cannot be implemented in GNU/Linux for legal and practical reasons: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/9844.html But verification of all "system" files by the firmware is possible. See what Google has done with their Chromebooks.
[19:52] <Unknown0BC> I only have the two pc's.
[19:52] <Unknown0BC> I just want to transfer data.
[19:52] <Unknown0BC> No under these conditions if you have a better solution then shoot.
[19:53] <Unknown0BC> But I think this may be a waste of time.
[19:53] <LinuxApprentice> do i need to remove the proprietary driver and reinstall it? won't work across versions?
[19:53] <Unknown0BC> It should have been childs play to set up a quick wireless network between two pc's.
[19:53] <Unknown0BC> No so ?
[19:53] <Unknown0BC> what am I missing.
[19:54] <roberto> where I can find libviert.so for amd 64 bit?
[19:54] <elijah> I am trying to use ubuntu-bug as per the instructions here (http://youtu.be/18nsScrDIa0) but I never get a web browser to describe the ticket and all the other stuff the instructor is speaking of. What am I doing wrong?
[19:54] <elijah> It just returns 1729
[19:54] <funnyhaha> does anyone know what programs wont work if i install the 64 bit ubuntu
[19:54] <zykotick9> elijah: are you specifying a package?  "ubuntu-bug packagename"?
[19:55] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: you created the network on machine A, and are unable to see it from Machine B is what you are saying?
[19:55] <Unknown0BC> Oh well I suppose there must be a tut somewhere on the net showing children how do do this...
[19:55] <pepee> sae, sorry, I was away from keyboard
[19:55] <elijah> zykotick9: The first time now but the second time, yes, with ubuntu-bug unity, that one didn't return anything.
[19:55] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, yeah.
[19:55] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: can you see the network created from anywhere, ie. smartphone?
[19:55] <pepee> sae, try until it works :)
[19:56] <elijah> zykotick9: It takes me through a few of the steps and then asks if I want to upload it and it appears to work etc but not much more
[19:56] <zykotick9> elijah: ok, just checking.  sorry i don't have any other suggestions - been a long time since i used ubuntu-bug.  best of luck man.
[19:56] <pikkachu> what are the two subkeys generated along with pgp keys in the graphical key manager?
[19:56] <sae> pepee: thank You :) - I tried installing Chromium - no luck there either
[19:56] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, I wonder if my phone is smart enough for that...
[19:56] <Unknown0BC> mmmm
[19:56] <Unknown0BC> let me check.
[19:57] <Unknown0BC> ( it is a smart phone, but its not always as smart as i'd like )
[19:57] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: you have a static ip configured and no BSSID on machine A
[19:58] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: and no Gateway
[19:58] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, lemme double check.
[19:58] <patrickgamer> any good site references for matching an Ubuntu release to old hardware specs? Trying to repurpose a Dell Inspiron 2500...
[19:59] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, yes.
[19:59] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, IPv4 only.
[19:59] <Unknown0BC> static ip
[19:59] <jteguest> does anybody know if linux can load and execute a .com program ?
[19:59] <scientes> tyler_d, yeah this hardware doesn't need any out-of-tree modules
[19:59] <guntbert> !enter | Unknown0BC
[19:59] <pepee> sae, try this: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/howdoi/how-do-i-install-plugins-for-firefox-in-linux/199  (under Flash)
[19:59] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: iwconfig <<yourdevice>>  ----> pastbin please
[20:00] <guntbert> jteguest: not possible (exept maybe with WINE ?)
[20:00] <sae> pepee: thanks! Will try that
[20:01] <jteguest> but they are just raw binaries with offset org 100h
[20:01] <zykotick9> jteguest: wine or dosbox would be my suggestions.
[20:02] <jteguest> Question are com programs only for 16bit programs or can they be used for 32bit ?
[20:02] <guntbert> jteguest: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[20:02] <jteguest> in theory you can but anything into raw binary com files
[20:03] <jteguest> ok sorry
[20:03] <pepee> sae, read this https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/where-to-put-libflashplayer-so-778198/
[20:03] <jteguest> my other question was on a.out does it support both 16 and 32 bit programs
[20:03] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, http://pastebin.com/5TKBy6ak
[20:03] <pepee> sae, try changing permissions, etc.
[20:05] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: that looks good so far, `ipconfig wlan0` --> pastebin plz
[20:05] <guntbert> jteguest: you might better as k this kind of questions in ##linux
[20:06] <jteguest> cann't get on to ##linux ?
[20:07] <guntbert> !register | jteguest
[20:08] <jteguest> depends on my compiler what ? no it depends on the loader
[20:08] <funnyhaha> i was thinking of installing the 64 bit i have been running large calculation and its really slow.. does anyone thing it will run 2 times faster?? and how is the programs can i still run 32bit programs?
[20:08] <jteguest> assuming you can create code with 16 , 32 , or what ever you want
[20:08] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, I think I have the problem. I did not switch on the other pc.
[20:09] <iceroot> funnyhaha: it will not be faster
[20:09] <funnyhaha> no
[20:09] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: ummm.... you lost me there?
[20:09] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, only kidding however, the other laptop has a button you must slide to switch on the wifi card. I did not do that. I thought it was still on. I have now switched it on and doing a reboot.
[20:10] <funnyhaha> then whats the point of 64 bit
[20:11] <funnyhaha> i dont understand
[20:11] <iceroot> funnyhaha: more ram
[20:11] <yandex38291> funnyhaha: It allows a computer to have more memory registers
[20:11] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: you shouldn't have to reboot
[20:11] <yandex38291> funnyhaha: 2^64
[20:11] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, now the laptop is doing  forced disk check first just to tease me.
[20:11] <funnyhaha> o
[20:11] <rhizmoe> ugh. how is it possible to use rhythmbox without a genre pane?
[20:11] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, yeah, but I find it would never work without a reboot for some reason, if I did not switch it on before it booted or while it booted.
[20:12] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: while it does that on machine B paste the ifconfig of machine A for me please
[20:12] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d it checks out fine.
[20:12] <Unknown0BC> But let me paste it anyway.
[20:12] <funnyhaha> well then i was also thinking about installing a GPU do you know anything about that?
[20:12] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: define that please?
[20:12] <hugenumber> rhizmoe: go to edit and preferences
[20:12] <yandex38291> rhizmoe: Who the hell uses a genre panel?
[20:13] <tyler_d> !language
[20:13] <Unknown0BC> fine, great, good, thumbs up ;)
[20:13] <Unknown0BC>  tyler_d, lol here: http://pastebin.com/9HZVD3U9
[20:14] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: very good, ty.
[20:14] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, tada ! connected
[20:15] <Unknown0BC> thanks for helping.
[20:16] <iceroot> funnyhaha: installing a gpu?
[20:16] <funnyhaha> yeah they have more flops for the money
[20:17] <funnyhaha> ggraphics card
[20:17] <iceroot> funnyhaha: your "question" does not make sense
[20:17] <Unknown0BC> Ok now I suppose I have sharing issues.
[20:17] <ha1dfo> hi all. I'm running dhclient on ubuntu 10.10 on a network interface what is renamed programatically later on. How can I stop dhclient gracefully (not killing)?
[20:17] <Unknown0BC> ummmm
[20:19] <guntbert> !crosspost | ha1dfo
[20:19] <DasEi> ha1dfo: sudo service dhcp3-client stop
[20:19] <ha1dfo> DasEi, thanks. and sorry
[20:20] <tyler_d> Unknown0BC: good to hear, best of luck
[20:20] <Unknown0BC> tyler_d, thanks.
[20:20] <funnyhaha> using a GPU should be something like 80 times faster than my CPU for calculation i wanted to know if anyone has done this
[20:21] <iceroot> funnyhaha: and your program is supporting gpus?
[20:21] <Anthony_1> hi
[20:21] <iceroot> funnyhaha: and no it does not mean ist 80 times faster
[20:21] <bibi23> how can I install java in ubuntu? I've installed the java-common package with aptitude but I'm getting error /usr/bin/java not found
[20:22] <iceroot> bibi23: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[20:22] <iceroot> !info openjdk-6-jre
[20:22] <funnyhaha> not sure if it will work
[20:22] <rcmaehl> Are there any programs like Synapse for Windows?
[20:22] <DasEi> funnyhaha:I haven't myself, but there was a channel on thaat particular topic, give a minute or two
[20:22] <iceroot> rcmaehl: what is synapse doing?
[20:22] <bibi23> iceroot: thank you I'm trying it :)
[20:22] <elijah> zykotick9: It is working, but the system was not focusing the browser because it was on a different workspace. I filed a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/971865
[20:22] <funnyhaha> o thats great
[20:23] <rcmaehl> iceroot, synapse is like gnome-do
[20:25] <funnyhaha> l
[20:26] <multiHYP> night all
[20:26] <barbori4_> i cam traying to back my switch to a linux machine and it's not letting me
[20:30] <barbori4_> i set up sftp-hpa but my switch doesn't connect to it
[20:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:31] <rcmaehl> Doesn't KDE have a version for Windows?
[20:32] <auronandace> rcmaehl: yes, not sure why you are asking here
[20:32] <rcmaehl> Where else should I ask? ##windows? I doubt any of them would have a clue what KDE is
[20:32] <alusion_> Youtube videos crash everytime on chromium is there a fix for this ><
[20:32] <ZarroBoogs> rcmaehl: How about #kde ?
[20:33] <rcmaehl> oh
[20:34] <foobArrr> how do I run a script on logout? I tried ~/.bash_logout, but that doesn't seem to work
[20:34] <donal> hi all
[20:35] <donal> I have a question about the output of update-alternatives
[20:35] <donal> what do the values "auto mode" and "manual mode" in the status column mean
[20:35] <lopret> how can i format disk drive and remove all partitions in disk ?
[20:35] <donal> I see the same version listed twice, once with auto mode and once with manual mode
[20:35] <auronandace> lopret: use gparted
[20:36] <auronandace> lopret: obviously you'll need to do it from a livecd or a different disk
[20:37] <lopret> i dont have a chance
[20:37] <lopret> live cd or diffrent disk
[20:37] <lopret> i want to destroy my disk
[20:37] <lopret> not what i am on
[20:37] <bekks> Then you need another medium to do so.
[20:37] <lopret> diffrent machine
[20:38] <reed> does anybody know exactly how Ubuntu does the audio streaming from UDS?
[20:38] <bekks> reed: Whats "UDS"?
[20:39] <reed> bekks, if you don't know you can't answer my question :)
[20:39] <reed> bekks, it's Ubuntu Developer Summit
[20:39] <lopret> gparted is gui parted i need for terminal
[20:39] <lopret> not xwindow
[20:39] <auronandace> lopret: parted or fdisk
[20:39] <reed> lopret, use parted
[20:39] <bekks> lopret: parted does not destroy anything.
[20:40] <bekks> It is just able to remove the partition table - it doesnt destroy the data on the disk.
[20:40] <reed> a hammer does
[20:40] <lopret> then i must choose which one does
[20:40] <wereHamster> how do I find out which package owns a file?
[20:40] <lopret> hammer good choice but it is on remote machine and it is far away from me
[20:40] <reed> f*ing unity
[20:41] <yeats> lopret: I would recommend Darik's Boot and Nuke (DBAN)
[20:41] <auronandace> reed: no need for that
[20:41] <reed> auronandace, yeah, fire would do too :)
[20:42] <auronandace> reed: i meant the pseudo swearing
[20:42] <`Jake`> Hi, youtube is broken for me for two or three days now. Red and blue are swapped. I tried to reinstall Adobe flash player and I tried it with Firefox and Chrome, but I can't get rid of the problem. It works fine on my windows installation. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:42] <`Jake`> Oh, and it works fine with html5 videos.
[20:42] <reed> auronandace, forking is not swearing :)
[20:43] <reed> auronandace, nonetheless, I apologize
[20:43] <lopret> there is a sda, sda1, sda2
[20:43] <lopret> if i destroy sda
[20:43] <Guest65393> anyone try to use festival with irssi?  trying to get the "/ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS" to work on the text to speech.
[20:43] <lopret> sda1 and sda2 also destroyed
[20:43] <lopret> right ?
[20:43] <auronandace> lopret: sda is the whole disk
[20:43] <lopret> so if i destroy it everythink gonna away
[20:43] <lopret> right
[20:44] <bekks> lopret: Removing a partition table does not destroy the data.
[20:44] <mortenmj> hi. i have a problem that apparantly needs to be solved by running grub-mkconfig and update-grub. however, since grub is broken, i can't boot into ubuntu the normal way. how do i boot ubuntu so i can successfully run those commands? i can boot to a live image, of course, but does that help any?
[20:44] <auronandace> lopret: you are going to have to define destroy
[20:44] <lopret> i've 2TB disk
[20:44] <bekks> You have to physically overwrite the _complete_ disk.
[20:44] <lopret> and i want to remove everythink what in it
[20:44] <bekks> Then overwrite the full 2TB.
[20:44] <lopret> it tooks a lot of time
[20:44] <bekks> Yes.
[20:45] <lopret> i tried
[20:45] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm trying to install the mini version of ubuntu but every time it hangs at the point where it tries to download everything it needs to do the installation. How can I fix that?
[20:45] <bekks> Otherwise, nothing gets destroyed.
[20:45] <auronandace> lopret: then like bekks said you will need to overwrite everything
[20:45] <deicon> i ve got a question: i have windows 7 and ubuntu,if i delete the partition of ubuntu then my system will boot into windows?
[20:45] <lopret> dude 2Tb disk its almost 3 days
[20:45] <bekks> deicon: Nost likely no.
[20:45] <bekks> lopret: Yes. And?
[20:45] <deicon> bekks:what can i do for that
[20:45] <Crowley2> donal: I asked myself the very same question: Difference between auto/manual mode in update-alternatives. Any answers???
[20:46] <bekks> lopret: You want to destroy _everything_ - thats the prize.
[20:46] <yeats> lopret: you can do 'dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda' - and yes that will take a very long time
[20:46] <guntbert> wereHamster: apt-file search <yourfile>
[20:46] <guntbert> !info apt-file | wereHamster
[20:46] <bekks> yeats: dd without bs= is pretty useless :)
[20:46] <lopret>    / dev/zero /dev/sda ?
[20:46] <bekks> lopret: It still will take ages.
[20:46] <lopret>  /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[20:46] <lopret> it is pain in the ass
[20:47] <DasEi> funnyhaha:sorry, I can't find the channel back, maybe #freenode can help
[20:47] <bekks> lopret: Dont expect wonders just because you want them.
[20:47] <auronandace> lopret: there is no quick way to overwrite the whole disk
[20:47] <lopret> but it should be !
[20:47] <bekks> Keep dreaming :)
[20:48] <wereHamster> guntbert: nope, not going to install apt-file. It deponds on build-essentials?!?
[20:48] <lopret> is this theroy work
[20:48] <bekks> lopret: What is "theroy"?
[20:49] <lopret> if i encrypt whole disk
[20:49] <auronandace> lopret: if you just want to be able to repartition then just overwrite the mbr, but if you absolutely need to get rid of everything on the disk then you need to do what others said (and that takes time)
[20:49] <lopret> and and destroy encryption table
[20:49] <facebook2142> I want to store installations and packages that i have made: does dpkg -l (which shows what packages are installed) include the PPA's that were manually installed? if not, how can i save that installed PPA information?
[20:49] <lopret> the data will encrypted right
[20:49] <auronandace> bekks: i think he means theory
[20:49] <deicon> can someone help me with my problem?
[20:50] <bekks> lopret: Encrypting 2TB will take ages too.
[20:50] <lopret> so i'm stuck then
[20:50] <DoctorD> what do you think about  Pidgin One-Time Pad Plug-in ?
[20:50] <Fyodorovna> deicon, what windows release? Do you have a recovery or install disc of it?
[20:50] <guntbert> wereHamster: I don't know about that, you can try with dpkg-query -S <yourfile>
[20:51] <deicon> Fyodorovna:windows 7 32 bit
[20:51] <bekks> lopret: Just take your time.
[20:51] <deicon> Fyodorovna:and i have an install disc of windows 7
[20:51] <Fyodorovna> deicon, you have a recovery disc the tiny one made in backup?
[20:51] <deicon> Fyodorovna:no
[20:51] <deicon> Fyodorovna:i have the installation disk
[20:52] <Fyodorovna> deicon, cool did you install ubuntu from a booted ubuntu disc or from windows?
[20:52] <deicon> Fyodorovna:from a usb
[20:52] <deicon> Fyodorovna:not from windows
[20:52] <deicon> Fyodorovna:from booted
[20:53] <Fyodorovna> deicon, you can reload the windows bootloader to the mbr, what OS are you in now>
[20:53] <deicon> Fyodorovna:yeah now i ve got the options from where to boot i mean when pc starts
[20:53] <deicon> Fyodorovna:ubuntu or windows
[20:54] <deicon> Fyodorovna:but if i delete it then i believe that the grub will be deleted so..
[20:54] <Fyodorovna> deicon, you get grub as of now right?
[20:55] <deicon> Fyodorovna:yes i didnt do anything
[20:55] <deicon> Fyodorovna:its fresh install of ubuntu
[20:55] <Geralt_> On 11.10 df claims a disk usage of 7.9G for my root partition, but on 12.04 df claims a usage of 12G. How can that be possible? I always thought that df reports the allocated space on disk for the files in a partition (unlike du which sums the file sizes)
[20:55] <lesshaste> hi
[20:56] <lesshaste> when I try to open a pdf it quite often comes up as blank
[20:56] <Fyodorovna> deicon, go to the ##windows Chanel and tell them you have the W7 disc and want to reload the mbr, for best channel use.
[20:56] <GRMrGecko> Any master of the find command in here that wants to help me? I want to find every file with the extension xlsx and run the following on it http://p.webra.in/0
[20:56] <lesshaste> similarly the ubuntu software center is coming up as blank white now
[20:56] <deicon> Fyodorovna:i cant do anything from there?
[20:56] <auronandace> Geralt_: 2 different partitions
[20:56] <deicon> Fyodorovna:ok then
[20:57] <Fyodorovna> deicon, are you registered?
[20:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna:registered where?
[20:57] <Fyodorovna> deicon, freenode
[20:57] <Geralt_> auronandace: it's the same partition, not two different partitions. I've 12.04 installed and booted 11.10 from a live stick and mounted my 12.04 partition there
[20:57] <deicon> Fyodorovna:i dont remember :P
[20:58] <deicon> Fyodorovna:now iam not
[20:58] <auronandace> Geralt_: any flags you are using with df? have the default flags changed between versions?
[20:58] <deicon> Fyodorovna:but how can windows help me if i told them for ubuntu?
[20:58] <Geralt_> auronandace: I just run it with df -h
[20:58] <Geralt_> but thanks I'll check that out
[20:59] <deicon> Fyodorovna:my first action is to delete the ubuntu partition
[20:59] <foobArrr> is there a gui for update-rc.d?
[20:59] <Fyodorovna> deicon, here is a reloadwiki that should help, the command needed at the terminal is bootrec.exe. /fixmbr is generally all that is needed.
[20:59] <deicon> Fyodorovna:so...
[20:59] <Fyodorovna> deicon, http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/20864-mbr-restore-windows-7-master-boot-record.html
[20:59] <RandomDude> hey guy how do i install grub2 when installing ubuntu server via ssh from a remote mirror?
[21:00] <jaequery> hi, i'm trying to setup Xen virtualization on Centos 5.6. The host OS is on ext3 with an LVM reserved for the guest machines, So I create a guest as ubuntu's 11.10 which comes by default EXT4.  my question is, are my guests really on EXT4? or is it really just ext3 as the host os.
[21:00] <Freudlund_777> Hi guys, I made dumb in xorg.conf on 11.10 to make lcd tv to work with nvidia card, rebooted, now crash on startup, any suggs? Will Lshift after BIOS post goto grub something, so I can recovery somehow? All google tells me is how to get GUI away when logged in, not go "no GUI" from powerup...
[21:00] <deicon> Fyodorovna:i must create a recorevy disc for windows 7,installation disc doesnt work?
[21:01] <Fyodorovna> deicon, installation disc works.
[21:01] <DasEi> Freudlund_777: yes, boot safemode as decribed, delete/rename xorg.conf
[21:02] <Fyodorovna> deicon, just follow the wiki to the terminal and run my command then reboot straight to windows... grub will be gone then you can delete ubuntu.
[21:02] <DasEi> Freudlund_777: also can try Ate-Ctrl-F1 if regularmode, case x won't start
[21:02] <DasEi> alt*
[21:03] <splic> Hello, is there a way of getting the output size of tar before writing it to /dev/null or disk without writing it to disk first?
[21:03] <deicon> Fyodorovna:so i ll go with boorec.exe /fixmbr and then follow the instructions of the link?
[21:03] <auronandace> !text | Freudlund_777
[21:03] <pfifo> Freudlund_777, I know part of the answer, yes holding shift (or control) will trigger the grub gui when booting
[21:04] <Freudlund_777> DasEi thx , don't know what don't start but x is my guess...x is still the thing in Unity right? So I can follow how-tos for 10.04 when setting resolutions and such?
[21:04] <pfifo> jaequery, you should ask in xen support channels
[21:04] <Fyodorovna> deicon, no just my command the link is for getting to the actual windows terminal.
[21:05] <jaequery> thanks pfifo
[21:05] <DasEi> Freudlund_777: yes, basics for xorg.conf are similar, and x is the graphical surface
[21:05] <pfifo> RandomDude, if the install process doesnt trigger it, you can always do it manually
[21:05] <deicon> Fyodorovna:ah i was confused cauz you say terminal not windows terminal
[21:05] <RandomDude> pfifo the install proccess gave me grub legacy last time i did it
[21:05] <bekks> deicon: Ubuntu has no windows terminal.
[21:05] <RandomDude> pfifo then installing grub2 with apt-get corrupted the system
[21:06] <pfifo> RandomDude, ahh I see, what version are you installing?
[21:06] <pfifo> of server i mean
[21:06] <deicon> Fyodorovna:yeah i knew that
[21:06] <DasEi> !x | Freudlund_777
[21:06] <RandomDude> pfifo 11.10
[21:06] <deicon> Fyodorovna:you say only terminal and we supposed to be in windows
[21:07] <mirko1> splic: well, TAR is not a compressed format, hence the size of the .tar file is the size of the filesystem consumption. since you compress TAR archives with some other compressor, you need to ask that. for a gzip compressed archives, try "gunzip -l archive.tar" and similar for other compressors.
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> deicon, your asking for hand holding the link shows a windows terminal on the booted recovery or install. This is actually not a Ubuntu channel issue......reloading the windows bootloader.
[21:08] <deicon> Fyodorovna:ok thanks i ll try
[21:08] <pfifo> RandomDude, well I would recommend troubleshooting the move from grub legacy to grub2. make sure you completly purge grub legacy before installing grub2 and if it doesnt work correctly, try to figure out why
[21:09] <Jordan_U> RandomDude: Ubuntu uses grub2 by default. Unless you were using a very old version of Ubuntu, or a non-official derivative, the installer most certainly would not have installed grub legacy by default.
[21:09] <RandomDude> pfifo when i did apt-get for grub2 it removed grub legacy
[21:09] <n-iCe> hi
[21:09] <RandomDude> Jordan_U i am using the version of ubuntu server stored on ca.archieve.ubuntu.com
[21:09] <n-iCe> i have this error in vlc  It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[21:10] <RandomDude> Jordan_U and it gave me grub legacy
[21:10] <n-iCe> i have integrated intel hd 2000
[21:10] <n-iCe> any idea?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> RandomDude: What made you think that it installed grub legacy by default?
[21:10] <pfifo> RandomDude, i would specifically remove one, then install the other afterwards.
[21:10] <auronandace> RandomDude: the version? which version?
[21:10] <RandomDude> Jordan_U it told me when i was in the grub menu
[21:10] <splic> mirko1: Assuming I use some compression option with tar, skipping piping to compression program I meant. I guess I'm looking for some way to get the size data piped through
[21:10] <RandomDude> ubuntu server 11.10
[21:11] <Jordan_U> RandomDude: What "told you" what? What is the exact text you saw that made you think it was grub legacy?
[21:11] <DasEi> RandomDude: http://tinyurl.com/boseqbo
[21:11] <auronandace> RandomDude: only 9.04 and under used grub legacy
[21:12] <Geralt_> auronandace: I cross checked and the total number of blocks and number of used blocks differs on both systems for ext4 partitions (I used df -B 512 on both machines). On 12.04  the number of available and used blocks is higher than on 11.10
[21:12] <Unknown0BC> Great.
[21:12] <RandomDude> auronandace well that is wierd then cause it told me it was grub legacy
[21:12] <webnet> anyone know anything about remastersys? im having an issue. i have run in dist mode and it exports an iso and an md5 sum no problems everything is all good, but then when i boot a vm from that iso i recieve this error: "Could not find ramdisk image /casper/initrd.gz" anyone ahve any thoughts about this?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> RandomDude: What "told you" what? What is the exact text you saw that made you think it was grub legacy?
[21:13] <auronandace> RandomDude: if it was grub legacy then you were using 9.04 or under
[21:14] <Anthony> Hello everyone.
[21:14] <RandomDude> i burnt a live cd of 11.10 and did the advanced install so i could do it over ssh and pulledc from ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:14] <CellTech> Is there anyway to speed up disk caching? This constant lag and failure is making me seconds away from smashing my harddrive
[21:14] <auronandace> Geralt_: odd, it's a little over my head
[21:14] <bekks> CellTech: Please elaborate whats happening exactly.
[21:14] <CellTech> Slow, lagging, freezing up
[21:15] <mirko1> splic: no, when you use -z, -j or similar, then tar does pipe through a compressor. just use 'file' to know what compressor (if any) is used and then use their 'list' (or similar) option. I don't know any other way.
[21:15] <Geralt_> auronandace: yeah, I'm confused too, these type of settings should be baked into the on-disk filesystem after all
[21:15] <bekks> CellTech: That are symptoms. Whats happening?
[21:16] <CellTech> Symptoms: slow, lagging, freezing up
[21:16] <bekks> You said that already.
[21:16] <CellTech> Well that's what happening. There's no other way to explain it
[21:16] <bekks> Thats far to vage to help you.
[21:16] <bekks> vague even.
[21:17] <CellTech> ok. It's slow at loading things, It's lagging when it wants to load things, it's freezing up when it's trying to load things
[21:18] <fides> 111
[21:18] <jjchen> can someone help me with eduroam please? i'm using archlinux, but i think the problem is related more to networkmanager or the kernel
[21:18] <jjchen> i am using network manager and the i'm trying to use ucsc's newly rolled out secure wireless system that gives me access to visitor wireless access at other academic institutions
[21:18] <webnet> no one has any ideas? alot of the google results indicated that the issue was due to using the wrong version of remastersys, but i am using the one from "deb http://www.remastersys.com/repository maverick/" as the deistro im remixing is 10.10
[21:18] <jjchen> network manager + network-manager-applet (the gnome frontend i'm using with fluxbox) was used to configure eduroam's wireless settings
[21:18] <jjchen> here is the relevant part of /var/log/everything.log : http://pastebin.com/uq8igbPu
[21:18] <jjchen> ucsc doesn't officially support anything other than windows, mac, and android for eduroam. the webpage for android configuration http://its.ucsc.edu/wireless-secure/eduroam/manual-config.html
[21:19] <jjchen> has some useful bits that i used to modify the instructions available here: http://www.ntnu.no/itinfo/read_article.php?aid=508
[21:19] <mirko1> CellTech: what things, freezing up when trying to load what things? what program are you using at that time, what files are you accessing? is NTFS involved?
[21:19] <auronandace> jjchen: #archlinux is where you want to go (make sure you have a registered nick)
[21:19] <CellTech> The whole computer is acting up. Everything is slow. I know the problem. Disk caching is slow. Swap is too slow.. must speed them up
[21:20] <_Marcus> CellTech: Did you try restarting it?
[21:20] <CellTech> Constantly
[21:20] <jjchen> auronandace: well i'm trying multiple places because people are more active here and maybe someone here knows more about eduroam
[21:20] <_Marcus> CellTech: Oh
[21:20] <_Marcus> CellTech: How much physical memory do you have installed?
[21:20] <auronandace> jjchen: crossposting is frowned upon here
[21:20] <pfifo> CellTech, can you disable swap?
[21:20] <CellTech> 512
[21:21] <CellTech> I'm in DDR and that stuffs not common to find cheap
[21:21] <jjchen> auronandace: why?
[21:21] <_Marcus> !crossposting
[21:21] <auronandace> jjchen: it wastes time and resources
[21:21] <jjchen> i didn't ask in multiple ubuntu channels
[21:21] <bekks> pfifo: To get the out of memory killer killing things more often? ;)
[21:21] <jjchen> i only ask when one channel doesn't have anyone at the moment who knows
[21:21] <jjchen> no one in #archlinux or ##linux was able to help
[21:21] <Toph2> my computer works great at startup (ubuntu 11.10),, After a day of so it slowly begins to bog down till after several days it almost hangs,, and I'm using xfce,, it is worse with Unity
[21:21] <mirko1> CellTech: I seriously doubt that disk-caching is the issue here. you have most probably a memory (RAM) consumtion problem
[21:22] <_Marcus> jjchen: Is it an Ubuntu-specific question?
[21:22] <CellTech> Well then there's gotta be a huge leak somewhere
[21:22] <auronandace> jjchen: that doesn't make this channel archlinux support
[21:22] <bekks> CellTech: No. Just tooless memory to run a full blown desktop on it.
[21:22] <jjchen> auronandace: like i said, it's an eduroam (wireless) on linux question; and most all of the tutorials on how to get it to work are for ubuntu online anyway
[21:23] <CellTech> Then I'm gonna drop from 11.10 back down to 10.04
[21:23] <pfifo> CellTech, on my old computer, 512 DDR, to play a few of the games i enjoyed, I would plug in a 1GB flash drive and use it for swap, then later on I started using 2 flash drives and had the system stripe them evenly.
[21:23] <DasEi> CellTech: you can use lightdm or such as wm , try lubuntu or xubuntu, and do from a mini-installer only the things you need
[21:23] <pawelero> Toph2: maybe you suffer from memory leak, what graphic drivers are you using?
[21:23] <DasEi> CellTech: ddr ? what dou mean, the location or ddr-ram ?
[21:23] <DasEi> do*
[21:23] <auronandace> jjchen: and the help offered here is ubuntu specific, it may not work on archlinux (there are many differences)
[21:23] <CellTech> ddr style ram. not sdram
[21:24] <GeminiDomino> Okay, so turns out that 12.04 beta 2 fixes my network issue. Looks like my hardware outpaced my LTS...  So the question I have now is this: at what point (ballpark is fine) in the month does the final usually come out? If it's not too long from now, I'll just wait for that rather than risking the beta on servers that need to go live
[21:24] <jjchen> auronandace: maybe, but it's a chance i'm willing to take
[21:24] <jjchen> auronandace: right now i'm out of ideas
[21:24] <DasEi> CellTech: ddr I guess, well a 1 gig on ebay or such is really the best thing to do
[21:24] <_Marcus> jjchen: I don't even think that Arch support is offered here
[21:24] <pfifo> GeminiDomino, aprilt 28th
[21:25] <CellTech> Yeah I don't online shop. Thanks anyways. I'm gonna just drop back to 10.04.. so far that was the best one ever
[21:25] <Geralt_> auronandace: I checked it a bit more with a self-writte df tool I needed recently and df -B 1 and the amount of available space on disk increases from 11.10 to 12.04, but the amount of free space is the same, hence the apparent disk usage increases from 11.10 to 12.04. But don't ask me why that is
[21:25] <auronandace> _Marcus: it isn't
[21:25] <jjchen> auronandace: i pasted a log of what my computer said happened when i tried to connect to the eduroam wireless access point. that's really the problem, not that i am on archlinux
[21:25] <laSt_duDe> Hi all!
[21:25] <GeminiDomino> pfifo: Thanks
[21:25] <Toph2> pawelero,,, is there a way I can tell from a terminal?
[21:26] <DasEi> pong. laSt_duDe
[21:26] <laSt_duDe> I am running ubuntu 11.10 on a 120gb hdd. I want 16gb of that hdd to be a new partition. Can anyone explan me how to do that? thanks
[21:26] <DasEi> laSt_duDe: boot a live cd, use gparted, then fix fstab's uuid's
[21:26] <DasEi> !uuid
[21:27] <pfifo> laSt_duDe, run through a gparted tutorial
[21:27] <DasEi> laSt_duDe: live cd handy ?
[21:27] <laSt_duDe> yes i have usb drive ubuntu
[21:27] <pawelero> Toph2: try installing mesa-utils and then run: glxinfo |grep vendor
[21:28] <DasEi> laSt_duDe: well boot it and come back then so we / I can assist
[21:28] <laSt_duDe> ok, thank you
[21:28] <pawelero> Toph2: I have to be going, but maybe someone else will help you
[21:28] <pawelero> bye everyone
[21:29] <Toph2> pawelero,,, sorry,, i found it,,, ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[21:31] <Shinobi> How do I mount a cifs partition over ssh?  I've set up tunnels for 139:server:139 and 445:server:445 but it doesn't work
[21:31] <beandog> gvfs would be simpler
[21:32] <shony>  Hello!
[21:32] <beandog> not to mention it'd do both ssh and civs
[21:32] <DasEi> Hi there, shony
[21:32] <beandog> *cifs
[21:32] <shony> How can I apt-get update but ony one package? I wish to update Only cfdisk
[21:32] <lesshaste> how do I completely remove the nvidia commercial drivers from the system?
[21:33] <mirko1> shony: apt-get install cfdisk
[21:33] <DasEi> shony: well you could by dpkg, but not advised because of dependencies
[21:37] <AcidRain2012> this is weird. i have a php file running as a cron job. if i load it in a browser. it returns the proper count of lines on a file. if cron does it. it returns "1"
[21:37] <AcidRain2012> anyone know why?
[21:38] <mirko1> AcidRain2012: cron jobs run in a limitted environment. probably you have to set some additional env vars
[21:39] <AcidRain2012> mirko1: can i show you the code?
[21:39] <markss> AcidRain2012: You could print out a bunch of debugging info, such as current working directory, contents of the environment, file it thinks it is counting the lines of, and whatever else
[21:40] <AcidRain2012> markss: you are talking about doing this in php?
[21:40] <AcidRain2012> or cron?
[21:40] <AcidRain2012> it works fine normally with php.
[21:40] <AcidRain2012> if cron does it. it fails
[21:40] <mirko1> AcidRain2012: pastebin ;-) but it probably won't help that much as we woulnd't see the exact environmen in both situations. markss' suggestion to add more printf debugging is correcnt
[21:41] <markss> AcidRain2012: i mean in the PHP file itself you can output a bunch of debugging info. Then compare the output when running it from a web browser vs when running it from cron.
[21:42] <Gerrr> hi all
[21:42] <ppyhd> hi
[21:42] <Gerrr> i have a questio about ircd-irc2 pasword
[21:42] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/xbQt9Pxb here it is.
[21:42] <AcidRain2012> but look. i have done many php files before. and they work fine
[21:43] <AcidRain2012> $Count = count(file($PlayFile)); this line returns "1" from cron. it returns something like 5123 from browser
[21:43] <ubuntu_> I need help. Linux is starting to pi$$ me off. I try mint first, and then it dies with all my data. The I try ubuntu, works a little long, then dies with all my data that was stored on that op. what is my friggin problem????!!!
[21:44] <xangua> ubuntu_: sounds like your HD has a problem
[21:44] <Xabster> ubuntu_, faulty hdd?
[21:45] <DasEi> ubuntu_ calm down a bit (language); and be more precise, what does it mean dies with all the data ? hd had arrows  and flew away ?
[21:45] <ubuntu_> xangua,  I tried three new ssd s and it did the same. mint twice ubuntu once.
[21:46] <AcidRain2012> and i just changed my password
[21:46] <AcidRain2012> :)
[21:46] <ubuntu_> DasEi, it froze from time to time and then died and never booted again. it was the same for both but less freezing in ubuntu
[21:46] <ubuntu_> \
[21:46] <n-iCe> hi
[21:47] <DasEi> ubuntu_: ever looked up the logs or fsck'ed it from a live medium ? ever checked the staorage ?
[21:47] <digitalslave> anyone else having color issues with flash lately?
[21:47] <mirko1> AcidRain2012: does it work now? I don't know PHP well, but regarding cron jobs, $PlayFile = "../playlist.txt"; (ie. relative path) is asking for trouble
[21:47] <ubuntu_> DasEi, no how is that done?
[21:48] <n-iCe> I want to have xmodmap load my map when I log in
[21:48] <n-iCe> how can I
[21:48] <DasEi> ubuntu_: I've three different distros plus a bunch of vm's, on all on *nix, since 3 years, no problem;; well there are many tools to check hd's, I have my systems autochecked all ~30 boots
[21:48] <DasEi> !info e2fsck
[21:48] <DasEi> !info fsck
[21:49] <beandog> it's probably e2fsprogs
[21:49] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  But can i check it on live cd?
[21:49] <DasEi> beandog: righty
[21:49] <DasEi> !fsck
[21:49] <reed> unity is seriously broken, man... I can't believe that many times the window you see in front of you is not the active one
[21:49] <DasEi> ubuntu_: yes
[21:49] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  how?
[21:49] <mirko1> n-iCe: "xmodmap filename" as an autostart?
[21:50] <DasEi> ubuntu_: are you on live now ?
[21:50] <reed> I closed firefox for the n-th time without meaning it
[21:50] <ubuntu_> DasEi, yes
[21:50] <DasEi> ubuntu_: open a terminal ..
[21:50] <ubuntu_> DasEi, ok...
[21:50] <webnet> anyone know anything about remastersys?
[21:50] <ubuntu_> DasEi, have one opened...
[21:50] <DasEi> ubuntu_: mount                     <<make sure none of the hd's partition is mounted
[21:51] <digitalslave> n-iCe, add yo your .bashrc
[21:51] <DasEi> ubuntu_: sudo fdisk -l   ,  look up partitions (aka /dev/sda1.. )
[21:51] <DasEi> webnet: as of what ?
[21:51] <DasEi> !remastersys
[21:52] <ubuntu_> DasEi, then what?
[21:52] <Etronik> ubuntu_, at times it can be frustrating.... I've there myself just yesterday, in the end... itt didn't work in one instance and I just have to revert to prior OS... such is life
[21:52] <ubuntu_> DasEi, i got /dev/sda1   *        2048    23019519    11508736   83  Linux
[21:52] <ubuntu_> /dev/sda2        23021566    31277055     4127745    5  Extended
[21:52] <ubuntu_> /dev/sda5   ?<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>   831799352    a  OS/2 Boot Manager
[21:53] <DasEi> ubuntu_: sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[21:53] <webnet> DasEi, well i have an issue ive been asking on the can for days, and hours today with no answers so i figured id ask if anyone knew anything first
[21:53] <DasEi> ubuntu_: sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -y  rather, saves keypresses
[21:54] <DasEi> webnet: ask right away or else - if no answers available, try forum, too; I played around with it a little
[21:54] <OptimizedCoder> emote desktop into my ubuntu machine through VPN from a windows machine. I saw that by default my ubuntu (11.04) starts vino-server. So I just grabbed tight-vnc java viewer on my windows machine and I'm VNCing onto the ubuntu machine. Connecting to the remote desktop from within the same network is fine, but over a VPN, it is pathetically slow.
[21:54] <webnet> DasEi, here ill send a pastebin link
[21:54] <OptimizedCoder> To the point that it is not usable at all. Any solutions to this issue?
[21:54] <DasEi> ubuntu_: fsck without y option already running ? can ctrl-c it
[21:55] <ubuntu_> DasEi, i think i just fixed a ton of stuff. it asked me if i want to fix this and that
[21:55] <webnet> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/5qJFWDi0
[21:55] <DasEi> ubuntu_: through now
[21:55] <DasEi> ?
[21:55] <OptimizedCoder> this is what I see running by default on my ubuntu install : /home/prakash/02292012_build/ap/msm/deckard-65x/developer
[21:55] <OptimizedCoder> /home/prakash/02292012_build/ap/msm/deckard-65x/symbols
[21:55] <OptimizedCoder> /home/prakash/02292012_build/ap/msm/deckard-65x/trunk
[21:55] <ubuntu_> DasEi, what?
[21:56] <DasEi> ubuntu_: did fsck finish ?
[21:56] <OptimizedCoder> sorry : this is what I see running : /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable
[21:56] <DasEi> webnet : in a minute
[21:56] <webnet> ok DasEi
[21:56] <OptimizedCoder> Any way at all - to speed up my vnc connections over VPN?
[21:57] <ubuntu_> DasEi, i think.... you told me to hit ctrl c and that kinda stopped me feom being able to hit yes....
[21:57] <DasEi> ubuntu_: sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -y  rather, saves keypresses
[21:57] <DasEi> ..and say when done
[21:57] <OptimizedCoder> I remote desktop into my ubuntu machine through VPN from a windows machine. I saw that by default my ubuntu (11.04) starts vino-server. So I just grabbed tight-vnc java viewer on my windows machine and I'm VNCing onto the ubuntu machine. Connecting to the remote desktop from within the same network is fine, but over a VPN, it is pathetically slow.
[21:57] <lesshaste> how can I make the window drag be frame only?
[21:58] <ubuntu_> DasEi, now it is going in the terminal like a rocket.....
[21:58] <mirko1> OptimizedCoder: I have no clue at all about VPN's, but maybe you could use NoMachine's NX to get better compression?
[21:58] <OptimizedCoder> mirko1, Or would I be able to just ssh to my machine and use the cmdline - I guess some way to disable graphics?
[22:00] <BobMarley_> hello
[22:00] <digitalslave> OptimizedCoder, you can also use x11 tunneling to bring through single windowed apps as long as they arent intensive
[22:00] <digitalslave> OptimizedCoder, over ssh that is
[22:00] <mirko1> OptimizedCoder: I suggest you ask a dedicated VPN/VNC group :-)
[22:00] <OptimizedCoder> digitalslave, Ah, but I'm a noob when it comes to linux - and frankly don't have that much time to play around with settings
[22:00] <BobMarley_> i need a program that searches for a word from some text files from a directory cantaining multiple files and folders
[22:00] <Hexch> Hido somebody know some dns management software like this so I can compare? http://www.4psa.com/products-4psadnsmanager.html
[22:01] <BobMarley_> i need the program to searc also in the subfolders
[22:01] <ubuntu_> DasEi, i don't think that will end....
[22:01] <brandonbolton> Hello, I am trying to share an internet connection from Xubuntu to a Xbox and when I select wired connection it keeps connecting and disconnecting over and over.
[22:01] <pfifo> BobMarley_, try using the standard old 'grep'
[22:01] <BobMarley_> pfifo,  i think that greep just searches in just one file
[22:01] <beandog> BobMarley: grep -r
[22:02] <DasEi> BobMarleyman grep helps
[22:02] <DasEi> BobMarley  *man grep helps
[22:02] <pfifo> BobMarley_, no it can search the way you described
[22:02] <BobMarley_> pfifo,  thanks ,
[22:02] <DasEi> ubuntu_ no wonder it didn't boot , should have set that regualry by tunefs
[22:02] <BobMarley_> pfifo,  to save some of my time, do you know the command?
[22:03] <ubuntu_> das
[22:03] <tWiZtEr> anyone familiar with Ruby / gem
[22:03] <tWiZtEr> rubygems
[22:03] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  two questions, one do i have to install ubuntu again and two, how do i get it to do it every 15 or so boots?
[22:03] <brandonbolton> Hello, I am trying to share an internet connection from Xubuntu to a Xbox and when I select wired connection it keeps connecting and disconnecting over and over.
[22:04] <pfifo> BobMarley_, not exactly, try grep -nHlrF -- <term>
[22:04] <kschluter> Hi, how do I remove a repository location once Ive added it?
[22:04] <mirko1> BobMarley_: you've gotten it, don't you? ;-) grep -r pattern directory
[22:04] <tWiZtEr> # gem install bundler  || bundler requires RubyGems version >= 1.3.6
[22:05] <DasEi> ubuntu_: hopefully no reinstall, and anyway you could save your data even if sys crashes, how to turn on autochecking I show you once back in hd-os
[22:06] <mirko1> kschluter: System - Administration -> Software Source.  I tried connecting it like how I always have and it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting.
[22:09] <brandonbolton> I am using a crossover cable.
[22:10] <DasEi> ubuntu_: fsck finished now ?
[22:10] <ubuntu_> DasEi, no
[22:10] <DasEi> kk
[22:10]  * DasEi gets a coffee
[22:11] <facebook2142> how can i run something every time on boot without using the gui?
[22:11] <OffGridOps> 12.04 upgrade from 11.10:  System did not completely install.  Used ctrl-alt-f1 and logged in.  Is there a way to get the install back underway?  Thanx
[22:11] <pfifo> facebook2142, put it in /etc/rc.local
[22:11] <wassy121_> brandonbolton: is "sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward" set?
[22:12] <facebook2142> i can put scripts in or bash/shell/terminal commands into that rc.local file?
[22:12] <wassy121_> facebook2142: it's run as-if a /bin/sh shell
[22:12] <L3top> you can link to scripts or put raw commands in
[22:12] <DasEi> facebook2142: either add it to /etc/rc.local or do a cronjob
[22:12] <DasEi> !cron
[22:13] <OffGridOps> It completely downloaded and was installing and I had a power failure
[22:13] <beandog> facebook2142: you can put in there whatever you want
[22:13] <beandog> that would also execute on a shell
[22:13] <Dragon64> just curious
[22:13] <DasEi> facebook2142: adding it to the init is another, more complicated method
[22:13] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  it has finished.
[22:14] <DasEi> ubuntu_: prbly that was the trick, just to be sure :
[22:14] <pastillegirl> hello, i'm running ubuntu 6.06 (i know, it's a long story).. should i upgrade each distro at a time or do a clean install via a CD or USB?
[22:14] <DasEi> ubuntu_: fsck /dev/sda5 -y
[22:15] <DasEi> ubuntu_: fsck /dev/sda3 -y
[22:15] <pfifo> pastillegirl, fresh install
[22:15] <DasEi> ubuntu_: will likely produce error message, nor ?
[22:15] <pastillegirl> thanks :)
[22:15] <beandog> DasEi: fsck /dev/sda{3,5} -y
[22:15] <beandog> :D
[22:15] <RealOp> ola
[22:15] <beandog> wait, that wouldn't work... nvm
[22:15] <DasEi> hehe
[22:15] <RealOp> so ive upgraded to the latest ubuntu and i hate it i freakin hate unity!!! so how do i get my old gnome2 back or an alternate....
[22:16] <DasEi> !pure-gnome
[22:16] <zykotick9> !notunity | RealOp
[22:16] <ubuntu_> DasEi, cant open new terminal and wont let me type...
[22:16] <jteguest> correct me if I am wrong ubuntu is derived from debian.
[22:16] <zykotick9> jteguest: it is
[22:16] <beandog> what do we do if you're right?
[22:16] <DasEi> ubuntu_: so cross fingers and reboot hd, else come back live
[22:16] <RealOp> ty ty
[22:17] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  ok.
[22:17] <DasEi> jteguest: jupp
[22:17] <facebook2142> how do i check to see what the execution bits of /etc/rc.local is using a terminal?
[22:17] <jteguest> Just curious how different is it to go from debian to ubuntu or visa-versa in terms of learning new stuff need?
[22:17] <Boreeas> So apparently sun-java6-jdk is no longer in the apt repository. Is there a simple way to install it on a remote server, or do I need to do it via FTP?
[22:18] <L3top> facebook2142: bash -x /etc/rc.local
[22:18] <DasEi> facebook2142: it runs with root permissions
[22:18] <zykotick9> jteguest: ubuntu and debian are both very different and similar.  They have very different goals.
[22:18] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  most likely not comming back at the momment i have a soccer practice to go to but if i see you again lets you know.
[22:18] <ubuntu_> ant thanks for the help.
[22:18] <L3top> I guess I misunderstood
[22:18] <jteguest> ok but interms of if somebody was an expert at ubuntu or debian would he have a learning curve
[22:18] <DasEi> ubuntu_: nice shooting and calm your mind at it, nice idea, good time
[22:19] <jteguest> going from one to the other
[22:19] <jteguest> or do they use the same commands /programs usually
[22:19] <zykotick9> jteguest: much of the knowledge is transferable!  they have similar bases.
[22:20] <jteguest> i.e package managers the same , make , c , bash ,...etc
[22:20] <jteguest> perl
[22:20] <OffGridOps> Is there a different IRC I should ask my question in as it deals with 12.04 or am I in the right area?  Thanx
[22:20] <zykotick9> jteguest: particular versions will be different for sure
[22:21] <digitalslave> jteguest, package mangers are generally the main difference between different linux version
[22:21] <DasEi> OffGridOps: #ubuntu+1
[22:21] <OffGridOps> Thanx!
[22:21] <jteguest> how compatible can I use a debain repo on a unbuntu or a ubuntu repo on a debain ?
[22:21] <zykotick9> jteguest: VERY bad idea
[22:21] <jteguest> why
[22:22] <digitalslave> jteguest, sounds good but dependencies and kernels will show you very quickly it wont work
[22:22] <zykotick9> jteguest: mixing repos is bad management
[22:22] <elijah> Is anyone familiar with ssh_config? I am wondering if you can set the ~/.ssh/config file to not have a host name and just try a certain key whenever any program calls on a certain HostName?
[22:22] <jteguest> won't it all be just dpkg so they would in theory have the same dependencies,code ,...etc and the file structure of debain and other linux distros are the same /home /usr /etc ,...etc
[22:22] <beandog> elijah: should be possible.
[22:23] <beandog> elijah: in fact, I'm kind of curious myself how to do that ... sec
[22:23] <DasEi> elijah: possible /etc/ssh/sshd_config is what you look at for
[22:23] <XGaryG> I just got a WinTV-HVR-950Q TV Tuner. It seems to want to use ATSC, which my current distribution does not seem to handle. Does anyone know if trying Ubuntu would help?
[22:23] <beandog> DasEi:  he's talking about ssh client
[22:24] <beandog> elijah: IdentityFile
[22:24] <beandog> elijah: http://www.kelvinwong.ca/2011/03/30/multiple-ssh-private-keys-identityfile/
[22:24] <pfifo> jteguest, you CAN mix deb packages between debain/ubuntu, BUT it can cause problems.
[22:24] <digitalslave> elijah, use the identity switch
[22:25] <jteguest> do all linux distros on this chart  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Gldt.svg use a version of linux kernel or are there some distros that use other kernels like GNU HURD kernel ,...etc
[22:25] <Jordan_U> !ot | jteguest
[22:25] <XGaryG> Does anyone watch TV on their computer thru a TV Tuner in america?
[22:26] <RealOp>  !unity
[22:26] <zykotick9> XGaryG: does Canada count :p
[22:26] <pepee> I have an amd llano+dGPU laptop. it works fine while using the 6520g, but won't resume if using the dedicated gpu (hd6750m)
[22:26] <KM0201> XGaryG: i have, many moons ago, but don't anymore
[22:26] <XGaryG> Do you know if you used ATSC ?
[22:26] <KM0201> atsc?
[22:26] <naptastic> I can never remember; Ubuntu is primarily based on Debian's Testing repository, right?
[22:27] <zykotick9> XGaryG: isn't that OTA HD?
[22:27] <zykotick9> naptastic: yes, it was sid at one time.
[22:27] <DasEi> XGaryG: nope, but once did in europe with a hauppage, using tvtime, check your card at places like
[22:27] <DasEi> !hcl
[22:27] <naptastic> zykotick9, thank you :-)
[22:28] <Dj_FlyBy> trying to get a list of all hardware installed to the PC. I want to output it to a file for easier reading, hwinfo works in console but is not outputting any information to a file. Any other suggestions
[22:29] <elijah> beandog, DasEi, digitalslave - thanks for all the suggestions, I am looking into and testing them now
[22:29] <beandog> Dj_FlyBy: lshw
[22:29] <XGaryG> It says it is 'ATSC digital TV'.
[22:29] <beandog> elijah: good luck
[22:29] <beandog> elijah: put it under a "Host server.com" entry
[22:30] <ubuntu_> DasEi,  I came back to tell you it didn't work.
[22:30] <mirko1> Dj_FlyBy: simply use IO redirection, ie hwinfo > hwinfo.txt
[22:30] <DasEi> ubuntu_ no soccer then, want to have another try ?
[22:31] <zykotick9> mirko1: i think hwinfo needs sudo doesn't it?  thus redirect would probably require use of tee.
[22:31] <Dj_FlyBy> mirkol: I know that but the file keeps coming up empty
[22:31] <ubuntu_> DasEi, hahahaha. sorry. not now. maybe another time. ihope i bumb into you again soon. bye.
[22:31] <DasEi> alright
[22:31] <pfifo> zykotick9, irrelevant
[22:33] <XGaryG> Great -  It is not on the list.  Now I get to endure her 'Mine Works' look.
[22:33] <Aesthenaut> anyone have ? mees running on ubuntu? any tricks you can shoot a
[22:33] <Aesthenaut> or, rather, any tricks you can shoot at me?
[22:34] <pfifo> XGaryG, write a drive for it
[22:34] <mirko1> Dj_FlyBy: works perfectly fine here. what exact command are you using?
[22:34] <DasEi> XGaryG: do a quick usb-install and least try tvtime on it
[22:34] <XGaryG> I'm not up to that sort of thing.
[22:34] <donal> hi all.....I'm trying to add an entry to the crontab that executes a function defined in .profile
[22:34] <donal> is this possible?
[22:35] <DasEi> XGaryG: easy task, usb stick with least 4 gig handy ?
[22:35] <mbeierl> I have just switched ISPs and now I am suddenly getting error messages from Avahi about using .local as a domain (Ubuntu 11.10).  That computer acts as a Masq gateway for my network.  Since this change I can no longer see shared printers/etc in my local network and all the other computers are also complaining about .local domain.  The google-fu is not with me as I can find no resolution to this
[22:35] <zykotick9> donal: i doubt cron is aware of .profile (maybe?)
[22:35] <XGaryG> I tried tvtime. It does not give me the option of using ATSC.  Just NTSC and PAL.
[22:35] <DasEi> ic
[22:35] <beandog> XGaryG: xbmc probably uses atsc
[22:35] <digitalslave> donal, put the function in its own script
[22:35] <XGaryG> I'll look.
[22:35] <beandog> er, wait, do they record video?  If not, mythtv would.
[22:35] <donal> zykotick9: that's what I thought
[22:35] <mbeierl> Why should service discovery care about my ISP?  Can't I prevent it from trying to communicate over the internet and stick to the local network?
[22:36] <elijah> beandog: So rename the private keyfile to "host-server.com" and place it in the /.ssh/ folder?
[22:36] <beandog> mbeierl: I was thinking the exact same thing
[22:36] <beandog> elijah: no, lemme pm you
[22:36] <donal> digitalslave: which user executes cron jobs by default ?
[22:37] <DasEi> XGaryG: quick glance, there are decoders n scanners for mythbuntu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332986
[22:37] <digitalslave> donal, any user that has a cron file
[22:37] <mbeierl> beandog, but alas, I am not able to get around this.  Avahi is now broken in my network.  And I cannot find a fix or explanation as to how to get around it
[22:37] <DasEi> XGaryG: I never used it, but will probably do with mythtv then
[22:37] <donal> OK, thanks a lot
[22:37] <beandog> mbeierl: you could do what I do ... use .lan instead
[22:37] <digitalslave> donal, the better question is do you need root permission or regular user. if regular just run it under your account
[22:38] <mbeierl> beandog, how?
[22:38] <beandog> mbeierl: er, wait, that isn't what I do actually.
[22:38] <beandog> mbeierl: whats your network configuration?  what's your ISP modem directly plugged into
[22:38] <donal> digitalslave: I guess I could do this . $USER.profile; myFunction
[22:39] <jteguest> well, I am just curious of what all the different GNU distros use for kernels is it all just linux kernel or is there some with totally different kernels. Because I can just come across one other GNU/hurd and It is not in a distro by default at least I haven't found one yet
[22:39] <pfifo> jteguest, linux uses linux, hurd uses hurd, bsd uses bsd... you get the idea?
[22:40] <mbeierl> beandog, ISP modem drives a satellite link (yes, I live rurally).  Ubuntu 11.10 is connected with one iface to the modem, and other serves up the local network.  dnsmasq for local dns caching
[22:40] <beandog> mbeierl: what's hostname return on the ubuntu box
[22:42] <mirko1> jteguest: a linux distro is by definition one that uses the linux kernel. if a system uses hurd or whatever it is not a linux distro. simply. period :-)
[22:43] <mbeierl> hostname: "jemms.homeip.net"
[22:43] <mbeierl> beandog, should it be without the FQDN?  ie: just jemms?
[22:44] <Crooks_mobile> that usually depends on your dns server
[22:44] <mbeierl> Crooks_mobile, if that was for me, I'm running dnsmasq locally, and this is a masq'ing gateway.  Avahi and service discovery are no longer working since a switch in ISP
[22:45] <TheClopener|2> is this the help channel for ubuntu?
[22:45] <beandog> mbeierl: that's ... weird.
[22:45] <penguinlink> yes
[22:45] <TheClopener|2> good...
[22:45] <beandog> mbeierl: I dont know why that would break it
[22:46] <mbeierl> beandog, neither do I :(  This is extremely annoying too now, as my wife's macbook can no longer print
[22:46] <Crooks_mobile> can you set it manually in route?  not sure if thats possible or not
[22:46] <randomDude> where do i put kde4 themes in my home folder? (its not ~/.themes )
[22:46] <TheClopener|2> so, i just now downloaded the newest stable release, and when i boot it up from my jump drive, it will not find a wireless connection. my windows will find it, but not the ubuntu. the saim thing happened when i tryed using tails to get on the wirless network here.. any ideas?
[22:47] <mbeierl> Crooks_mobile, was that intended for me?
[22:47] <Crooks_mobile> mbeier1 yea sorry
[22:48] <mbeierl> Crooks_mobile, the bonjour service on the mac doesn't work that way.  I can't put it into a route as it uses some form of zeroconf to discover where the printers are.
[22:48] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: do you know what wireless device you have?  if not, is the machine still on ubuntu right now?
[22:48] <mirko1> randomDude:  ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/
[22:48] <TheClopener|2> no, i am runjning windows xp
[22:48] <Crooks_mobile> mbeier1 yea this is out of my area of knowledge sorry
[22:48] <TheClopener|2> the wirless device... hmm
[22:48] <TheClopener|2> like the driver that picks it up?
[22:48] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: yeah, it's hard to trouble shoot while youre under windows.. any chance you can wire to a router for a few minutes?
[22:49] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: no, like the chipset on the wireless device
[22:49] <TheClopener|2> one sec.
[22:49] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: nothing under windows is going to help you determine what you need to know
[22:50] <beandog> mbeierl: I'm trying to figure out how they are effecting .local
[22:50] <TheClopener|2> "Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini Card", is that what ur talking about?
[22:50] <beandog> mbeierl: it would make sense ... oh, wait, are they using their DNS servers?  That could do it.
[22:51] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: as i said, nothing under Windows is going to help you with this... although, that's likely a broadcom, just don't know which one
[22:51] <TheClopener|2> crap... well i have no way of hooking ubuntu up to the internet
[22:51] <mrcellfizh> hello, the show desktop icon doesn't work properly
[22:51] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: can you wire yourself to the router for a few minutes?
[22:52] <TheClopener|2> what router?
[22:52] <XGaryG> I installed XBMC, but did not see where I would watch TV from.
[22:52] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: well, i assuming you had a wireless router, so that must mean you're syphoning someone elses connection
[22:52] <mirko1> mrcellfizh:  how does it misbehave, which ubuntu version?
[22:52] <TheClopener|2> yes, im useing the public librarys
[22:52] <TheClopener|2> i got no internet at home
[22:52] <KM0201> XGaryG: xbmc isn't gonna let you watch TV unless you have your TV tuner working
[22:52] <Andy2113> hey guys I'm having an issue trying to bin folder so I can make a file executable from anywhere
[22:52] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: oh ok.
[22:53] <mrcellfizh> 11.04 i click on it sometime but it shows other windows instead of the desktop
[22:53] <mrcellfizh> sometimes*
[22:53] <Andy2113> this is what terminal tells me
[22:53] <Andy2113> cp: cannot create regular file `/bin/extrac-xiso': Permission denied
[22:53] <XGaryG> So far noone has any clue about ATSC. There is nobody from the US trying this tuner?
[22:53] <mbeierl> beandog, sorry - the ISP - yes they provided me with a new set of DNS servers.  and yes, .local seems to resolve using it
[22:53] <TheClopener|2> can i still connec to it?
[22:53] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: you probably can, but we need to figure out your wireless device
[22:54] <facebook2142> thx
[22:54] <beandog> mbeierl: Try overriding their DNS servers with something else.  Like <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>]
[22:54] <TheClopener|2> well, the dell driver is the one i said erlier if thats what your talking about,
[22:54] <TheClopener|2> for picking up wifi
[22:54] <Andy2113> does anyone know why I am getting his? "cp: cannot create regular file `/bin/extract-xiso': Permission denied"
[22:54] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: you're not listening... that information is pretty well irrelevant to Ubuntu
[22:55] <TheClopener|2> crap, well how do i find it out
[22:55] <KM0201> TheClopener|2: can we chat privately? i'll try to help you out
[22:55] <TheClopener|2> sure
[22:55] <mirko1> mrcellfizh: do you use compiz or any other window manager (other than metacity)?
[22:55] <pfifo> Andy2113, you dont have permission to create that file
[22:56] <Andy2113> how do I get permission?
[22:56] <Crooks_mobile> Andy2113 use sudo or switch to root user
[22:56] <digitalslave> Andy2113, sudo
[22:56] <Andy2113> so sudo then the command?
[22:56] <XGaryG> I do have a52dec installed.
[22:56] <digitalslave> Andy2113, yes and then enter your password
[22:58] <Andy2113> thanks guys :)
[22:58] <jenesaispas> is anyone else having problems setting language with "language support" GUI on 12.04b2 ?
[22:58] <mrcellfizh> mirkol: i use gnome classic as it is
[22:59] <drecute> what is the role of kerberos when joining Ubuntu to Windows server active directory?
[23:00] <mbeierl> beandog, i did try <IP_ADDRESS> and no change :(
[23:00] <Brandan> damn this channel got larger since the last time ive been here (2009)
[23:01] <chazwoza> drecute: not sure specifically for ubuntu, but kerberos is for authentication and/or single sign on
[23:01] <beandog> mbeierl: I dunno, man.  networking issues escape me.
[23:01] <digitalslave> drecute, http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742516.aspx
[23:01] <chazwoza> drecute: im assuming it lets you authenticate to ubuntu using your AD account
[23:01] <drecute> chazwoza: thanks
[23:01] <mbeierl> beandog, thanks.  This is the most info I've gotten so far.  I did see about the .local and DNS, but it still makes no sense.  <IP_ADDRESS> also allows .local to be resolved
[23:01] <drecute> chazwoza: so in this case do I need a kerberos client or server?
[23:02] <beandog> mbeierl: how are you doing lookups for .local hostnames?
[23:02] <beandog> mbeierl: oh you know what? t he avahi cli tools will tell you which servers it's doing lookup on
[23:02] <mirko1> mrcellfizh: then i don't know. sorry, hopefully somebody elde will jump in
[23:02] <pfifo> mbeierl, what was your original issue?
[23:03] <beandog> mbeierl: also have you tried bonjour browser on osx ? (you'll have to download it)
[23:03] <pepee> I have an amd llano+dGPU laptop. it works fine while using the 6520g, but won't resume if using the dedicated gpu (hd6750m) . how can I fix it?
[23:03] <mrcellfizh> mirkol: np
[23:05] <drecute> Digitalslave: from that reference, does that mean windows active directory is a kerberos server?
[23:05] <drecute> then I can go ahead and configure a kerberos client on ubuntu?
[23:06] <digitalslave> drecute, generally
[23:06] <TheEmpath> hi, what does this mean: Depends: gcc-4.4-base (= 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) but 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[23:07] <drecute> phew!
[23:07] <TheEmpath> i get it when i try to apt-get install mongo
[23:07] <drecute> 2 days of trying to understand basic understanding
[23:07] <digitalslave> drecute, :D
[23:08] <sonuunos> foo
[23:08] <auihgfiuoahon> 7uu
[23:08] <drecute> digitalslave: I guess I really don't need to setup kerberos for samba?
[23:09] <drecute> I will setup kerberos for samba only is i'm implementing kerberos server on ubuntu?
[23:09] <digitalslave> drecute, are you using an active directory logon to access the samba server or a linux account or even guest?
[23:09] <TheEmpath> how can a package be slated as "to be installed"?
[23:09] <Liquido_> hi
[23:09] <Liquido_> I got 3 same processes and I need to kill the the one which was started first, how I can identify which one of them is the most oldest ?
[23:10] <drecute> digitalslave: active directory logon
[23:10] <mirko1> TheEmpath: it means that some package requries exactly the  4.4.3-4ubuntu5 verson of gcc but the currently available version is 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1. What exatcly are you doing?
[23:10] <TheEmpath> mirko1: I got a cloud server of ubuntu running... and i had no proble building all of the gcc toolchain myself on another instance.. but this one is giving me nothing but problems
[23:11] <TheEmpath> im trying to install mongo and its griping about gcc problems, but i have no idea how to fix it.  i've run aptitude safe-upgrade, apt-get update... nothing works
[23:11] <digitalslave> drecute, you may want to use likewise open to setup your active directory connection
[23:12] <digitalslave> drecute, http://www.beyondtrust.com/Products/PowerBroker-Identity-Services-Open-Edition/
[23:12] <mbeierl> beandog, gotta go afk.  but this is what I'm using to do the .local lookup: host -t SOA local
[23:14] <dageriv> the finger command outputs something it calls "idle time", when is a user idle from a terminal?
[23:14] <mirko1> TheEmpath: MongoDB? Any specific reason why you don't install from the available repos? why did you " building all of the gcc toolchain myself"?
[23:15] <TheEmpath> mikro1: that was for another instance and it worked fine.  this is a new instance.  I am running apt-get install mongodb-10gen, and its telling me there is an unmet dep, and that a newer version of gcc is to be installed
[23:15] <TheEmpath> which is all good and well that its telling me that, in sometime in the future, it will be installed.  i would just like to rush that along and install those now :D
[23:17] <Dragin_> how do I remove an entire directory with stuff still in it?
[23:17] <zykotick9> Dragin_: "rm -r directory/"
[23:17] <bobo37773> Dragin_: From the command line?
[23:18] <Dragin_> thanks zykotick9, and yes bobo37773
[23:18] <mirko1> TheEmpath: any PPA's installed?
[23:18] <TheEmpath> deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/debian-sysvinit dist 10gen
[23:21] <mirko1> TheEmpath: disable it, install the one from the "default" universe repo, then re-add the repo and try again
[23:23] <mirko1> TheEmpath:  oh, wait, you might have the wrong repo. try this one: deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart dist 10gen
[23:23] <TheEmpath> k
[23:25] <TheEmpath> mirko1: same problem
[23:26] <Dj_FlyBy> hmmm, need something a little more friendly than hwinfo (can't make sense of the file as to what hardware is what..... ie. which one is my video card and which one is my tuner card, etc). Any suggestions?
[23:27] <tyler_d> Dj_FlyBy: hwinfo --video
[23:27] <zykotick9> Dj_FlyBy: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[23:28] <Dj_FlyBy> that was just an example....
[23:28] <pfifo> Dj_FlyBy, try `lspci` to get a basic overview first
[23:28] <leshaste> how do you tell if you are running unity 2d or 3d?
[23:29] <TheEmpath> mirko1: now sudo apt-get upgrade is giving me the exact same error
[23:29] <TheEmpath> jesus christ, what the hell happened... im just going to burn this instance down and start over
[23:29] <tyler_d> leshaste: try running a 3d app
[23:29] <zykotick9> Dj_FlyBy: well "lspci" or "lspci -vnvn" shows a lot of h/w info.  "cat /proc/cpuinfo" for cpu stuff...
[23:29] <leshaste> tyler_d, for exampkle?
[23:30] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: what is the specific error
[23:30] <TheEmpath>  gcc-4.4: Depends: gcc-4.4-base (= 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) but 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1 is installed
[23:30] <wyrm111> .
[23:30] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: have you tried `strace <<your command>>` to see the output and if its more comprehensive?
[23:31] <tyler_d> leshaste: glxgears
[23:31] <TheEmpath> tyler_d: its faster for me to burn this instance down and spin up a new one.. apparently, i screwed up somewhere badly, so im just going to do a fresh build and go again
[23:31] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: gl with that then.
[23:31] <TheEmpath> tyler_d: I dont want this coming back to haunt me later on down the road because i didn't know how to debug it properly
[23:31] <zykotick9> leshaste: "glxinfo" might also help
[23:32] <leshaste> tyler_d, hmm.. well it rnus
[23:32] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: learning and properly debugging is par for the course and should be taken with patience and dilligence
[23:32] <leshaste> tyler_d, but does that tell me I am in unity 2d?
[23:32] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: what exactly are you compiling/installing and what is the error please
[23:32] <leshaste> tyler_d, or is there some of other 2d desktop I should be using
[23:32] <tyler_d> leshaste: take zykotick9's advice... glxinfo
[23:33] <TheEmpath> tyler_d: indeed, and i do not have the time at this point.  i've setup mongo on like 15 ubuntu machiens no problem.. this one is giving me issues, so i'll just burn it to the ground and follow my previous steps
[23:33] <leshaste> zykotick9, what am I looknig for in the output?
[23:33] <tyler_d> leshaste: you could always just use the default gnome
[23:33] <leshaste> tyler_d, how?
[23:33] <zykotick9> leshaste: to know if it's unity 2d or 3d isn't really in glxinfo :|  i don't know how to tell, sorry.
[23:33] <leshaste> zykotick9, ok
[23:34] <tyler_d> leshaste: I personaly haven't reverted back to the default gnome... I'm sure the path for that could be followed in here by someone though
[23:34] <zykotick9> leshaste: what do you select at the login window?
[23:34] <leshaste> zykotick9, I just type in my password
[23:34] <leshaste> let me trying logging out
[23:35] <zykotick9> leshaste: there is some way to change your DE/WM, so that should also be able to say what you're currently using
[23:35]  * zykotick9 has never actually used lightdm, but assumes ;)
[23:36] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: I don't honestly know how or what you could have borqued if you have done it other times.... I don't agree with your path to resolution... but if you feel that's best then I wish you luck sir
[23:37] <TheEmpath> tyler_d: I dunno what I busted up either... i may have tried to mix and match deps, versions, or even over write binutils.. who knows... i was trying an experimental way to setup ubuntu and it didn't work, so I'll just scrap it and stick with what works.  I do appreciate the help, none the less :D
[23:37] <UbuntuBoy> Hey. xD
[23:38] <UbuntuBoy> Does anyone has Second Life on his box, if so... Can you play it normally?
[23:38] <tyler_d> TheEmpath: for sure, I don't know a lot but glad to stick my nose in any time :)
[23:39] <tyler_d> UbuntuBoy: had it once upon a time, ran it from a terminal...
[23:39] <UbuntuBoy> And it worked?
[23:39] <UbuntuBoy> I mean it works for me too, but its uber slow...
[23:39] <tyler_d> UbuntuBoy: long time ago but yes
[23:40] <UbuntuBoy> And my PC isn't really bad. Sooo... I'm kind of confused.
[23:40] <UbuntuBoy> Huh...
[23:40] <UbuntuBoy> It must be this new version then.
[23:40] <DarkAngel> I can not get sound on my Toshiba A3-S611 laptop with unbuntu 11.10 any ideas on a fix.
[23:40] <tyler_d> UbuntuBoy: ummm... video card? what does top say when it runs?
[23:41] <UbuntuBoy> I can run Guild Wars without problem, so I don't really think its about hardware.
[23:41] <UbuntuBoy> Its the new version of SL, for sure.
[23:41] <UbuntuBoy> Thanks anyway @tyler_d.
[23:41] <tyler_d> UbuntuBoy: well thats a start for sure, but in no way definative... check top while it runs and see
[23:42] <tyler_d> UbuntuBoy: yqw
[23:42] <DarkAngel> tyler_d do you have any idea why I do not have sound on my laptop with 11,10
[23:42] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: alsa drivers?
[23:43] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: when is the last time it made noise? what kind of video card is it plz
[23:43] <DarkAngel> I got it from a friend of mine and it had windows XP on it. I can't remember if it made noise then or not
[23:44] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: does it show the icon for sound in the panel?
[23:44] <DarkAngel> Yes it does
[23:44] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: does it play the startup sound even?
[23:45] <DarkAngel> No it does not play any sounds at all
[23:45] <hey^_^you> anyone else using irssi client, this is my first time
[23:45] <hey^_^you> hello
[23:45] <twirm> @hey^_^you smuxi is better
[23:45] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: is there anything on the keyboard to indicate sound? does pushing the sound up/down on the keyboard produce the icon indicating up/down in the top right?
[23:46] <Quantum_Ion> sometimes those sound icons disappear and reappear in ubuntu linux
[23:46] <Quantum_Ion> on the top bar
[23:47] <DarkAngel> I don't see any keyboard keys that make the sound go up and down.. the icon is there but nothing is coming out of the speakers
[23:48] <bkerensa> Any suggestions for trying to troubleshoot a bluetooth headset that pairs fine but doesnt show up in sound settings?
[23:48] <_Marcus> DarkAngel: Is there drivers needed possibly?
[23:48] <digitalslave> DarkAngel, have you tried the alsa mixer?
[23:49] <DarkAngel> digitalslave I like your name.. I tried the alsa mixer and set everything that was mute to on and moved the volume up
[23:50] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: you could also try alsamixer from a terminal
[23:50] <DarkAngel> Still got no sound. I did get a little lost when they were talking about loading drivers.
[23:50] <DarkAngel> I did but still nothing unless I did something wrong
[23:50] <digitalslave> DarkAngel, do you know what sound chipset/card you have?
[23:50] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: `lspci | less` and search for the audio in there
[23:51] <tyler_d> DarkAngel: based on the name, I would say digitalslave knows more than I on this... so follow him plz :)
[23:51] <zykotick9> twirm: hey^_^you i've never tried smuxi (i'll check it out) BUT, #debian's irssi factoid starts "rumour has it, irssi is the best <IRC> client ever."
[23:52] <DarkAngel> Intel ICH6 Family AC'97
[23:53] <zykotick9> twirm: lol, smuxi - graphical IRC client, GUI can't run that in screen - can't possibly be better ;)
[23:53] <digitalslave> DarkAngel, did this recently stop working or never worked?
[23:54] <TheEmpath> yeah, that worked lol
[23:54] <DarkAngel> I got the laptop from a friend and he claims it worked but I am starting to think it didn't work at all He had windows xp loaded on it and I put ubuntu on it right away
[23:55] <twirm> @zykotick9 why not just use emacs then?
[23:55] <DarkAngel> @digitalslave it shows the card but I can't get any sound at all
[23:55] <digitalslave> DarkAngel, some good info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/87515/no-sound-after-upgrade-to-11-10
[23:56] <zykotick9> twirm: emacs.. i've always been a vi guy, but recently i've seen what people can do with emacs - it's impressive.  but i don't need another OS to run on top of gnu/linux :p
[23:56] <digitalslave> DarkAngel, that chipset should work. i had some issues with mine doing surround sound after the last update but it works now
[23:57] <twirm> @zykotick9 I guess that's fair, I spend most of my time in a text editor so having a terminal emulator in my text editor is way nicer than having it anywhere else
[23:57] <nmittal_> is it possible to draw on a buffer rather than canvas.. and then copy the buffer to the canvas?
[23:57] <zykotick9> twirm: that's what screen is for ;)
[23:58] <mirko1> TheEmpath: just curious. *what* worked?
[23:58] <twirm> @zykotick9 customization ftw, that's way linux will always be best :)
[23:58] <DarkAngel> @digitalslave do you think it is a bad sound card?
[23:58] <zykotick9> twirm: to see most of my cli programs check out https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/emlink?emrecipient=115403891429547707849&emid=CPjAn8SPlq8CFSJyNAodGG0AAA&path=%2Fcircles%2Ffind&reexp=EXP_6&dt=13333681
[23:58] <zykotick9> sorry
[23:58] <zykotick9> twirm check out http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Minimalism
[23:58] <Crazydan> sup guys
[23:58] <OrangeAngel> Hi.
[23:58] <Crazydan> lil help
[23:59] <digitalslave> DarkAngel, cant say for sure. you could boot with a live disk and see if it works there as well
[23:59] <twirm> @Crazydan what's going on?
[23:59] <Crazydan> : dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:59] <Crazydan> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[23:59] <Crazydan> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:59] <philip__> hello guys. I dual boot ubuntu and avl 3.0.5 each on a separate hard disk. the grup menu on startup currently shows only avl. How would i go to add the other hard disk too?