[08:03] <neoxan> ubuntu dapper final (not offical yet) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[08:03] <rahonavis> MTecknology, yes i have it too and am happy with it.  i'm not an advanced user though but i know my way around and can figure out things.
[08:03] <Seveas> next one posting crap links gets a ban
[08:03] <dunnix> in communist russia you dont apt-get     apt-gets you   :P
[08:03] <Vaske_Car> did anybody install 6.06 yet?
[08:04] <jiping> yep
[08:04] <jiping> 6.06 is good
[08:04] <Mysta> yea, on a server ;)
[08:04] <nomin> dunix:  have you been talking to arrummzen lately?
[08:04] <Vaske_Car> say something guys heehe
[08:04] <CHodapp> WAFFLES
[08:04] <grv> 6.06 does not exist
[08:04] <jiping> great
[08:04] <myleftfoot> ive been running dapper since flight 5... it rocks. waiting for official release to burn dvd's for friends and family
[08:04] <dunnix> nomin: no dont know him
[08:04] <spikeb> ditto myleftfoot
[08:05] <rahonavis> grv is right there was a leaked beta iso with a md5sum that was wrong from ubuntuforums.org
[08:05] <Vaske_Car> is there a way to use eMule on Ubuntu?
[08:05] <KLineD> I've been running it from flight 3.. kinda washes off the excitement factor but I'm waiting for final to burn some dvds
[08:05] <Hentai_Jeff> great now I'm thinking about stewie doing my left foot
[08:05] <rahonavis> Vaske_Car, i think its called aMule
[08:05] <z_diver> does anyone know if the LAMP install can be run from espresso?
[08:05] <intelikey> lwarimav results ?
[08:05] <Seveas> z_diver, it can't
[08:05] <jiping> yes, u can use emule
[08:05] <jameswang> eMule under Linux is aMule.
[08:05] <jiping> but it's called amule
[08:05] <Vaske_Car> what is MD5 for this "final" version 6.06?
[08:06] <jiping> what about xMule?
[08:06] <Seveas> Vaske_Car, the final iso is not released yet
[08:06] <z_diver> Seveas: Then it's only from the alternate installer?
[08:06] <Seveas> z_diver, no, only from the server cd
[08:06] <DShepherd> Seveas: why??? :-(
[08:06] <lwarimav> intelikey: It works.... waooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:06] <Seveas> DShepherd, because sabdfl is not awake yet
[08:06] <spikeb> somebody call and wake him up
[08:06] <spikeb> heh
[08:06] <JoseStefan> i just downloaded the daily for the 31st, now i just hope the files didnt change
[08:06] <Astinus-> charle97: http://mirror.trivini.no/ubuntu-iso/6.06/
[08:07] <DShepherd> Seveas: hehe. really?
[08:07] <jiping> do we need to change to the formal dapper, or the beta version can be updated
[08:07] <intelikey> lwarimav if you made a backup and you don't see any reason to keep it.  you can rm it now.
[08:07] <DShepherd> Seveas: what time is he getting up?
[08:07] <intelikey> lwarimav your welcome.
[08:07] <Flannel> jiping: beta can be updated,no problem.
[08:07] <Seveas> DShepherd, when he wakes up.
[08:07] <lwarimav> intelikey: thanks bro
[08:07] <DShepherd> Seveas: that works
[08:07] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: you can just update that once the final is out. you can install it and upgrade later
[08:07] <intelikey> np
[08:07] <rahonavis> get RC not beta :)
[08:08] <jiping> F thanks
[08:08] <JoseStefan> myleftfoot: i need the "final" on disc
[08:08] <dooglus> how do I revert back to the version of a package which is in the repos, if I have since built and installed a newer version from CVS?
[08:08] <JoseStefan> "cd"
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> so for amule: sudo apt-get install amule      <<< is this right command?
[08:08] <Flannel> JoseStefan: you'll have to wait then.
[08:08] <jiping> hi fujitsu, how are u
[08:08] <jiping> yep
[08:08] <JoseStefan> i just need to verify the MD5's once the final is released officially
[08:09] <JoseStefan> and cross my fingers so i dont have to re-download :S
[08:09] <Fujitsu> Hi jiping.
[08:09] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: yup you have to wait and torrent up like the rest of us.
[08:09] <rahonavis> Vaske i often perform multiple admin tasks under sudo so what i do is "sudo su" and the apt-get install amule you might want to enable your universe and multiverse
[08:09] <intelikey> Vaske_Car yes
[08:09] <herbheart> rahonavis you might want to try sudo -i
[08:09] <z4k4ri4> still not released, 6:09 UTC
[08:09] <Saj> is there a page with all the features of dapper drake on it ?
[08:09] <rahonavis> thank you
[08:09] <Fujitsu> rahonavis, sudo -i
[08:09] <Vaske_Car> does 6.06 uninstall all required libraries if we uninstall some software or it leave libraries?
[08:09] <rahonavis> i was looking foor the proper way to do it
[08:09] <dooglus> myleftfoot: why would you use the torrent if you already have breezy?  you can just update breezy to dapper
[08:10] <rob138> so it's released now?
[08:10] <grv> some ppl like a fresh install
[08:10] <MTecknology> lastnode, I can make festival speak text, how to I make that audio input from my microphone
[08:10] <rahonavis> person i helped, see the responses :)
[08:10] <intelikey> Vaske_Car leaves libs
[08:10] <grv> or want to burn for others
[08:10] <rob138> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:10] <myleftfoot> dooglus: i have dapper. final RC. I just need the iso to burn some for my friends and family
[08:10] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: it depends how you uninstall.  apt-get will leave libraries, debfoster won't.  aptitude can delete dependencies too.
[08:10] <dooglus> myleftfoot: I see.
[08:10] <intelikey> Vaske_Car install deborphan and run that.
[08:11] <JoseStefan> Seveas: what was that? if you dont mind me asking?
[08:11] <swarmz> so it's not been released yet?
[08:11] <rahonavis> myleftfoot, are they having surgery that requires the final iso immediately ?  ;)  :)
[08:11] <Seveas> JoseStefan, an idiot
[08:11] <swarmz> how annoying!
[08:11] <Fujitsu> Seveas, always good to get rid of them.
[08:11] <freakabcd> rahonavis, hisrightfoot might know :p
[08:11] <Vaske_Car> intelikey, is there any tutorial of how to uninstall everything that we do not need for server in order to make computer a bit faster, or it is not neccesary?
[08:11] <myleftfoot> rohonavis, no but when they get them windows gets to go to heaven
[08:12] <intelikey> Vaske_Car not that i am aware of.
[08:12] <Vaske_Car> roger
[08:12] <JoseStefan> Vaske_Car: you only have to worry about active processes, and those you can check with "top"
[08:12] <Tomcat_> Vaske_Car: Install "debfoster" package and run "sudo debfoster"
[08:12] <Krank> lastnode, you still there?
[08:12] <JoseStefan> Vaske_Car: but be careful what you decide to remove
[08:12] <Tomcat_> Vaske_Car: debfoster will make sure only packages that are needed are installed, and the rest will be uninstalled.
[08:12] <khermans> http://www.kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut.pl
[08:12] <swarmz> rob138: I can't respond to PMs because of "spam issues"
[08:13] <Vaske_Car> i will do it tomorrow, i must go sleep now ;(
[08:13] <Tomcat_> Vaske_Car: But as JoseStefan said... be careful what to remove.
[08:13] <intelikey> Tomcat_ yeah that's handy to trim ship with.
[08:13] <rob138> swarmz, on my side?
[08:13] <swarmz> rob138: when will apt be able to deliver the update?
[08:13] <khermans> This is a Dapper SMS notifier on release within one miinute of being out...
[08:13] <rahonavis> freakabcd, yes i understand.. and even i fall victim to this when i get excited.  but i did the right thing and tried the RC which is fine by me.  i can download the iso of proper release later.
[08:13] <Vaske_Car> thanks guys and good night all!
[08:13] <Bilford> 47 minutes maybe
[08:13] <Vaske_Car> cya tomorrow
[08:13] <swarmz> rob138: nah, my side because i'm not registered
[08:13] <Jeeves_> Morning
[08:13] <rob138> swarmz, oh
[08:13] <intelikey> Vaske_Car c ay
[08:13] <rob138> swarmz, i dont know the answer to that
[08:14] <swarmz> so, when will apt be able to deliver the update?
[08:14] <Saj> !DAPPER
[08:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC!  LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:16] <chavo> JoseStefan, not yet
[08:16] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: not yet.... google is working on it
[08:16] <chavo> it's being worked on though
[08:16] <swarmz> so why is there this delay for releasing on apt?
[08:16] <JoseStefan> guess i have to settle with google maps, for now
[08:17] <Fujitsu> swarmz, what delay!?>
[08:17] <Fujitsu> *!?
[08:17] <Corey> Howdy
[08:17] <henriquemaia> Try this, JoseStefan: http://www.flashearth.com/
[08:17] <joshhendo> JoseStefan: It is -possible- to run google earth in Wine, though it is a tad dogy
[08:17] <Corey> isnt dapper drake fully released today ?
[08:17] <spikeb> !dapper
[08:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:17] <Fujitsu> Hi Corey, sometime today.
[08:17] <glick> khermans, what does your script do
[08:17] <Corey> nice nice
[08:17] <JoseStefan> back to midway, can't seem the find it
[08:17] <maruchan> synaptic should i install both compiz, and compiz-gnome?
[08:17] <maruchan> or just 1
[08:17] <swarmz> Fujitsu:
[08:17] <Corey> I have it already running will the official release be any changes ?
[08:17] <khermans> glick, checks for Dapper release and notifies you by SMS cell phone text message as soon as it comes out
[08:18] <swarmz> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <swarmz> Reading package lists... Done
[08:18] <swarmz> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:18] <swarmz> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:18] <swarmz> keiron@desktop:~/leadbullet/cvs.dev/file_data/library/file_data/api$
[08:18] <JoseStefan> maruchan: i think dependencies will require both
[08:18] <maruchan> ahh okay thx
[08:18] <swarmz> why is it not released on apt yet?
[08:18] <glick> khermans, dear god people, get away from your computers for a minute, go outside, enjoy the sunshine and breathe the fresh air!
[08:18] <Fujitsu> swarmz, there is no delay! It just hasn't been released yet!
[08:18] <Seveas> swarmz, it is...
[08:18] <dholbach> hey Seveas
[08:18] <Corey> I don't wish to download another 600MB will the official release just be an upgrade for us already using the dapper drake ?
[08:18] <zcat[1] > e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:18] <zcat[1] > Y
[08:18] <khermans> glick, it is dark where I am!!!
[08:18] <Seveas> hi daniel
[08:18] <zcat[1] > hmmm..
[08:18] <Fujitsu> Corey, just upgrade.
[08:18] <Corey> Awseome :)
[08:18] <swarmz> well the release date was 00:00 GMT and it's passed that, so that counts as a delay i think
[08:18] <Corey> I love the dapper drake skin
[08:19] <Fujitsu> It was no 0:00Z
[08:19] <Corey> its so neat and easy on the eyes !
[08:19] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[08:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:19] <Seveas> swarmz, no one ver saizd 0:00
[08:19] <neutrinomass> swarmz: It was never on the 0:00 ... it was 1st june
[08:19] <Fujitsu> `but not at 0:00 UTC!'
[08:19] <Rambo3> Corey: for the 1 bilionth time no , you just have to change sources and update and upgrade
[08:19] <rob138> can someone explain why BT uses my sound device?
[08:19] <Corey> cool.
[08:19] <Bilford> maybe at 07:00
[08:19] <intelikey> swarmz the release date was 6/4  two month delay....
[08:19] <swarmz> i'm sure it said the actual time and timezone somewhere
[08:19] <dholbach> Corey: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[08:19] <Corey> harhahr I will get it downloaded before all of youz !!
[08:19] <Fujitsu> swarmz, that was wrong.
[08:20] <dholbach> Corey: ah ok, you're using dapper already
[08:20] <Corey> yeah
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Corey, LOL
[08:20] <zcat[1] > Corey: too late.
[08:20] <dunnix> i had to mess around alot to get my resolution right on my widescreen    is dapper going to mess that up?
[08:20] <Fujitsu> dunnix, possibly.
[08:20] <swarmz> oh well
[08:20] <Kmirno> Mybe we should close this channel until release ?
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> dunnix, save your xorg.conf
[08:20] <Corey> youz guys already got the official realse !?
[08:20] <swarmz> i'll just ssh into work and get the iso there :P
[08:20] <Fujitsu> I've been running Dapper for three months.
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Fujitsu, me too
[08:20] <Rambo3> i was born with dapper
[08:20] <myleftfoot> dunnix, the widescreen worked out of the box on my lappy
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> very nice
[08:20] <dunnix> cause im running 1366x768
[08:20] <Fujitsu> But it'll only be stable in a few hours...
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Rambo3, cool
[08:20] <Corey> Yeah, ive been using dapper for about 3 days now.
[08:20] <fiendskull9> i stopped because i got tired of updating the artwork every 5 minutes
[08:21] <rob138> is there a command to restart sound? i don't wanna kill my BT download but want to use sound
[08:21] <nomasteryoda> dunnix, do back up the file first
[08:21] <Corey> Its fully stable o my machine :)
[08:21] <Kmirno> I eat an apple
[08:21] <pettman_> anyone know how to get another tab when using the server command in XChat?
[08:21] <Fujitsu> rob138, try killing esd.
[08:21] <nomasteryoda> to your home or even a usb stick
[08:21] <Kmirno> It's tasty
[08:21] <zcat[1] > I have an ISO already.. md5 doesn't match rc or any of the last few daylies...
[08:21] <Seveas> pettman_, /newserver
[08:21] <Corey> XCHAT FOR LIFEZ !
[08:21] <dunnix> nomasteryoda: good idea
[08:21] <Rambo3> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa- (perss tab ) restart
[08:21] <pettman_> Seveas, thanks
[08:21] <zcat[1] > Was in a hidden directory..
[08:21] <Kmirno> Apples are good
[08:21] <Corey> Hey does anyone know how to use divs ?
[08:22] <Corey> is there a html channel
[08:22] <Seveas> Kmirno, cut the offtopicness
[08:22] <jameswang> zcat[1] , Maybe your ISO got something wrong?
[08:22] <dunnix> nomasteryoda: but dapper should be able to read my custom modlines fine then?
[08:22] <Seveas> Corey, #html perhaps
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> dunnix,  i had same problems with my dualscreens on suse 9.3, 10.0 ... backed up the 5th time i overwrote it
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> =D
[08:22] <Healot> Corey: you can use mozilla-chat instead
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> dunnix, just to make sure, back up
[08:22] <rob138> Fujitsu, that didn't do anything, sound is still being used up... dsp?
[08:22] <Corey> mozilla chat ?
[08:22] <Corey> Im using xchat :D
[08:22] <Kmirno> Seveas: sorry just trying to divert from the "when dapper is released" huhu but ok I ****
[08:22] <JoseStefan> zcat[1] : you should verify your iso with the corresponding MD5SUMS file
[08:22] <zcat[1] > ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso - sounds fairly final to me.. :-)
[08:22] <Fujitsu> rob138, work out what's using it.
[08:22] <Fujitsu> zcat[1] , not really.
[08:22] <dunnix> nomasteryoda: ok
[08:22] <jameswang> I'm using gaim.
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> zcat[1] , LOL
[08:23] <rob138> Fujitsu, Gnome-btdownload is
[08:23] <Seveas> zcat[1] , the final ISO is NOT RELEASED YET
[08:23] <pettman_> zcat[1] , where is that to be found?
[08:23] <zcat[1] > The md5sums says it's right..
[08:23] <Corey> ITS RELEASED OMFG ITS RELEASED !!!!!!
[08:23] <Corey> DOWNLOAD QUICK
[08:23] <rob138> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ?
[08:23] <Bilford> ...
[08:23] <crimsun> Seveas: the md5sum from ponyland says it's released!!!
[08:23] <Seveas> crimsun, screw ponyland
[08:23] <Healot> Wait until Mark says so
[08:23] <spikeb> omg ponies
[08:24] <trygvebw> when it's released it will be here won't it? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/
[08:24] <Seveas> crimsun, NO YOU CAN'T HAVE A PONY
[08:24] <Sapote> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:24] <zcat[1] > OMG!!!  Go back to bed.
[08:26] <Seveas> VonGuard, no.
[08:26] <VonGuard> poop
[08:27] <JoseStefan> California is still on the 31st, right?
[08:27] <jet87> yep
[08:27] <CHodapp> Huh?
[08:27] <Flannel> JoseStefan: for 30 minutes.
[08:27] <Saj> :(
[08:27] <ggilbert> for a half an hour
[08:27] <VonGuard> yeah, for another 30 minutes
[08:27] <Bilford> Is Mark Shuttleworth going to parachute onto the Today show set or something today
[08:27] <Fujitsu> Hahaha.
[08:27] <herbheart> !dapper
[08:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:27] <jrsims> God. I just love ubuntu so much.
[08:27] <ajmitch_> Seveas: just give everyone a pony & a kick :)
[08:27] <Bilford> what kind of advertising is planned
[08:27] <Seveas> Bilford, yes
[08:27] <spikeb> Bilange, that would rule lol
[08:27] <Graig> seriously?
[08:27] <Seveas> /kick ajmitch_ ZOMG PONIES!
[08:27] <VonGuard> i'm posatively giddy with excitement
[08:28] <JoseStefan> ubuntu should get at least 10 seconds on CNN
[08:28] <lastnode> ponies?
[08:28] <spikeb> haha Seveas
[08:28] <Bilford> Mark Shuttleworth will ride onto the Today Show set on a pony
[08:28] <jrsims> ubuntu is the greatest thing to happen to the world in a long time
[08:28] <lastnode> he should ride in on ponIES
[08:28] <herbheart> greatest thing to happen since ponies
[08:28] <lastnode> pluralism everyone
[08:28] <jrsims> SO anyway, can I run XGL and get drop shadows without installing compiz too?
[08:28] <pettman_> I hope that the fglrx freez has been amended...
[08:28] <Bilford> lol
[08:28] <CHodapp> LOL I CANT USE MY USB DILDO WITH UBUNTU
[08:28] <trygvebw> oh my
[08:28] <lastnode> mmm
[08:28] <lastnode> another one bites the dust
[08:29] <lastnode> Freddie Mercury was prophetic
[08:29] <JoseStefan> jrsims: you can install compiz and not use "the rest" of the features
[08:29] <cef> this is getting a bit draconian, no?
[08:29] <herbheart> yes you can use your dildo with ubuntu... but first, you have start up totem
[08:29] <Madpilot> lastnode: well, bites something, anyway. ;)
[08:29] <Healot> everyone's mad for Dapper Release eh?
[08:29] <VonGuard> freddie mercury was prosthetic
[08:29] <Fujitsu> Thanks for keeping the channel sane, Seveas.
[08:29] <swarmz> is the iso officially released?
[08:29] <jrsims> JoseStefan: huh? I don't need xgl?
[08:29] <lastnode> Madpilot, xD
[08:29] <cef> herbheart: haha
[08:29] <Seveas> swarmz, no
[08:29] <lastnode> swarmz, no!
[08:29] <swarmz> if not, what is this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/dapper-desktop-i386.iso
[08:29] <Saj> he should ride the e-pony which is a robot pony, with a intel inside and a ubuntu as the grey matter:D
[08:29] <Bilford> the daily build?
[08:29] <JoseStefan> jrsims: xgl + compiz, but you can turn off the features you dont want
[08:29] <imbrandon> daily build
[08:29] <lastnode> swarmz, daily-live, it's a daily build
[08:29] <Saj> it shall start dancing at the sound of action
[08:29] <Saj> lol
[08:29] <Fujitsu> swarmz, you've been told a thousand times.
[08:29] <swarmz> oh jesus
[08:29] <Saj> :D
[08:30] <jrsims> JoseStefan: have you installed it?
[08:30] <Bilford> it doesnt amtter though
[08:30] <swarmz> i haven't been told at all...
[08:30] <Rambo3> last fglrx driver for dapper was broke or what . i got mesa back on my system
[08:30] <l_r> is ubuntu out?
[08:30] <Graig> i cant wait for dapper, and that new nintendo system with that funny controller :)
[08:30] <lastnode> l_r, no
[08:30] <herbheart> swarmz it's a daily build from yesterday morning.
[08:30] <imbrandon> !dapper
[08:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:30] <khermans> Sorry server was acting weird...updated
[08:30] <khermans> wget http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut && perl DapperOut
[08:30] <robinl1> Guys..
[08:30] <l_r> how much do we have to wait?
[08:30] <robinl1> Dapper is already...
[08:30] <JoseStefan> jrsims, a friend of mine has it
[08:30] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[08:30] <Hodapp> Oh calm down...
[08:30] <lastnode> l_r, read the topic!
[08:30] <robinl1> Released
[08:30] <robinl1> but not officialy
[08:30] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:30] <robinl1> xD
[08:30] <Touru> It's possible to update via normal updater, isn't it? But, is it better to do a fresh install?
[08:30] <cef> swarmz: might end up as the final release, but there is no official word on wether it will be. till there's official word, it can't technically be the release
[08:30] <l_r> lastnode,  i read it 24.01 hours ago
[08:30] <herbheart> l_r til June 1, midday
[08:30] <robinl1> I have the  new dapper right here now.
[08:30] <l_r> it's obsolete
[08:30] <jrsims> JoseStefan: well, maybe you can answer this. I've installed xgl and compiz (and supporting packages). But how do I start it?
[08:30] <lastnode> Touru, apt-get dist-upgrade works fine
[08:31] <robinl1> it's from yesterday
[08:31] <swarmz> i wanted an excuse to not do anything at work today!
[08:31] <lastnode> l_r, well, it still stands
[08:31] <swarmz> damn it!
[08:31] <Hodapp> Seveas, sheesh, it was a joke...
[08:31] <Graig> i have a problem with the screensaver applet, i think it's a bug..  it will start up during a game like tremulous.
[08:31] <Hodapp> swarmz, would that excuse really work?
[08:31] <Touru> lastnode: Excellent, thanks. =)
[08:31] <lastnode> Hobart, #ubuntu-offtopic is fine for stuff like that
[08:31] <lastnode> sorry
[08:31] <JoseStefan> jrsims: there is a way to load compiz using a .xsession file in your home dir
[08:31] <lastnode> Hodapp, that was for you
[08:31] <swarmz> will 6.06 include support for gnome, kde and others?
[08:31] <eobanb> swarmz, ....????
[08:31] <Seveas> swarmz, no, just blackbox
[08:31] <swarmz> or will they be separate isos?
[08:31] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:31] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:32] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:32] <l_r> swarmz, no, they have removed everything ..
[08:32] <eobanb> !patience
[08:32] <robinl1> Is it forbidden to grab the final iso (which is there) from the ubuntu server, meant for the mirrors?
[08:32] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:32] <Madpilot> swarmz: they've always been seperate ISOs
[08:32] <Hodapp> Wait, ask one more time, jameswang
[08:32] <JoseStefan> jameswang: depends on your client
[08:32] <robinl1> The people in #ubuntu+1 did
[08:32] <eobanb> jameswang, it's a client-side setting
[08:32] <robinl1> now we got the final dapper
[08:32] <robinl1> :O
[08:32] <herbheart> swarmz, U6.06 will not come with Gnome.  Hope you like it!
[08:33] <eobanb> makelele, read the topic please.
[08:34] <z4k4ri4> the mirorr
[08:34] <lastnode> wth?
[08:34] <lastnode> this is nuts
[08:34] <imbrandon> !+dapper
[08:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:34] <Seveas> lastnode, the channel is going nuts
[08:34] <Saj> eoband: nop, apart from when dappy is coming:D
[08:34] <paniq> lastnode, dont try to bring order into the biggest party on earth ;)
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> now I must reconfigure flash and that so tomorrow I guess that I must come again ahahahha :P
[08:34] <Fujitsu> makelele, what delay!?
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> but all ok
[08:34] <lastnode> Seveas, apparently, yes :)
[08:34] <jrsims> Do I need to repoint my repositories to get the freshest dapper?
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> just that
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> thks buddie
[08:34] <Fujitsu> jrsims, no.
[08:34] <khermans> I've never seen so many people geek out over a release
[08:34] <rahonavis> this channel almost has 900 people in it.  about the size of a small town.
[08:34] <jrsims> yay
[08:34] <eobanb> jrsims, if you're already running dapper, then no.
[08:34] <Seveas> lastnode, I cleared out all bans yesterday
[08:34] <lastnode> jrsims, dapper is coming at its freshest :) there are no separate repos
[08:34] <bill> hey bill
[08:34] <bill> lol
[08:34] <bill> its me
[08:34] <JoseStefan> jrsims: did you get my link?
[08:34] <Fujitsu> jrsims, the update tool will handle it for you
[08:35] <jrsims> JoseStefan: I did. Looking at it now.
[08:35] <Graig> wow that's alot of people.
[08:35] <lastnode> Seveas, to make room, eh? :)
[08:35] <Seveas> lastnode, hehe
[08:35] <intelikey> rahonavis very very very small town.
[08:35] <dholbach> khermans: me neither
[08:35] <paniq> lastnode, and dont forget, whenever you kick people, you have an influence on the stats. its better to say "on the day of release, #ubuntu had<PHONE_NUMBER> individuals" instead of just... 900 ;)
[08:35] <jrsims> I wonder of the latest Suse got this much fanfare...
[08:35] <lastnode> Seveas, when you got a moment for a /query, let me know
[08:35] <JoseStefan> jrsims: i suggest creating a new user for compiz/xgl
[08:35] <khermans> dholbach, says something about our community :-)
[08:35] <jon_> Ah, that's weird.  Dapper doesn't come with X-chat.  Had to install it.  but that's offtopic: my real point: Are you guys doing dapper support right now? or do I have to wait for the official release? :)
[08:35] <Seveas> lastnode, no need to ask for that
[08:35] <rahonavis> intelikey, yes you are correct :)  perhaps with a goat that is mayor and drinks beer for lunch somewhere down in the rural areas of texas :)
[08:35] <lastnode> paniq, does anybody really care how many people were in #ubuntu? :)
[08:35] <jrsims> JoseStefan: good call
[08:35] <eobanb> wacky.  we're about to pass #gentoo as the most populous channel; at least temporarily.
[08:35] <ryno> This channel reminds me of the credits for a t.v. program. You can't keep up with all the text scrolling down the screen.
[08:35] <lastnode> Seveas, as in?
[08:36] <Seveas> khermans: that they're insane?
[08:36] <paniq> lastnode: independent blogs :D
[08:36] <JoseStefan> jrsims: that user will use the sample .xsession file
[08:36] <Seveas> lastnode, as in: you can always pm
[08:36] <khermans> Seveas, hey i didnt say it
[08:36] <Seveas> khermans, no, but you know it
[08:36] <intelikey> rahonavis oh you've been here ?
[08:36] <herbheart> ryno - that's true and funny
[08:36] <myleftfoot> eoband, we did that already earlier. we went up to around 930
[08:36] <paniq> lastnode: when there are no stories to tell, there will be no hero to remember.
[08:36] <rahonavis> no intelikey though there exists such a town with a goat as a mayor.
[08:36] <lastnode> paniq, ooh, profound. :)
[08:37] <khermans> Seveas, i did write a script to SMS me in case I fall asleep and Dapper comes out ... cuz I'm gonna torrent it on my University gigabit
[08:37] <Watson> rahonavis: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <scheuri> hi all
[08:37] <rahonavis> understood
[08:37] <paniq> lastnode: ;)
[08:37] <Watson> scheuri: greetings are not permitted. Ubuntu talk only.
[08:37] <Seveas> khermans, what does the script do, measure the activity in here?
[08:37] <khermans> Seveas, lol -- nah greps the releases page
[08:37] <khermans> Seveas, there's no RSS right?
[08:37] <Jeeves_> Seveas: Watch de traffic peaks on the main ix'es :)
[08:37] <rahonavis> i'm leaving until tomorrow when the final is out
[08:38] <scheuri> Watson: if that is the case...I greet you with my biggest smile I can produce...
[08:38] <Seveas> Jeeves_, lol, do you really think it'll show up?
[08:38] <eobanb> Watson, i don't think that's even been a rule before, or at least not enforced
[08:38] <Fujitsu> Seveas, I've been wondering why you often have that character on the end of your messages... Is it meant to be a smile?
[08:38] <Jeeves_> Seveas: No.
[08:38] <jrsims> Am I the only one who is thinking of ditching work so I can play with dapper?
[08:38] <Seveas> Fujitsu, yes
[08:38] <Watson> jrsims: if I had a job, I'm sure I'd ditch it.
[08:38] <lastnode> jrsims, work? what is work?
[08:38] <eobanb> jrsims, glad to hear you're so enthusiastic
[08:38] <JoseStefan> you could use an http HEAD request on the release directory
[08:38] <Seveas> Jeeves_, ahhhh, not even a single pixel in the RRD graphs? ;)
[08:38] <Watson> lastnode: this thing where you do stuff and get paid...legally
[08:38] <KLineD> I'll go to work so I can download there
[08:38] <lastnode> Watson, oh, that.
[08:39] <l_r> i think ubuntu actually wins the competition between all the other linux-based distros as italy will win the world cup..people will only talk about ubuntu and italy before july
[08:39] <jrsims> eobanb: yeah, it's weird. I just love ubuntu. It touches me in weird ways in weird places.
[08:39] <Watson> uh...
[08:39] <khermans> JoseStefan, ahh probably a better idea!
[08:39] <Watson> l_r: kinda depends on the market, I think, but who knows...
[08:39] <Rambo3> l_r: italy haha
[08:39] <lastnode> get em while it's hot, children
[08:39] <l_r> :)
[08:39] <khermans> JoseStefan, suggest imporvement to this ? http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut
[08:39] <JoseStefan> khermans: looking...
[08:40] <eobanb> khermans, hahaha
[08:40] <jrsims> I wonder how many people are running "sudo apt-get upgrade" right now...
[08:40] <scheuri> am I in ubuntu-offtopic or in the support channel? *I can be nagging as well, ;)*
[08:40] <JoseStefan> khermans: don't know perl :(
[08:40] <Watson> jrsims: I dunno, I'm on Slackware...
[08:40] <Madpilot> scheuri: you're in #ubuntu
[08:40] <khermans> Joetheodd, doh!
[08:40] <jrsims> Watson: why are you in here then?
[08:40] <lastnode> jrsims, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:40] <neutrinomass> F-Spot is in mono ?
[08:40] <lastnode> :)
[08:40] <Watson> jrsims: curiosity
[08:40] <jrsims> lastnode: yeah, I just ran it too. :)
[08:40] <herbheart> F-Spot sucks
[08:41] <Watson> jrsims: will likely try Ubuntu soon
[08:41] <scheuri> Madpilot: thanks, I perfectly know...;)..I was just joking
[08:41] <Fujitsu> Better, Seveas.
[08:41] <lastnode> jrsims, i think we're running dapper!! woot xD
[08:41] <neutrinomass> herbheart: Likely, but that's not the point ...
[08:41] <ajmitch_> neutrinomass: yes, it uses mono
[08:41] <JoseStefan> khermans: that part doesn't do the checking, does it?
[08:41] <jrsims> Watson: it really is good. I also used slackware for a while.
[08:41] <Watson> herbheart: I like digiKam, even with all of KDE's KraKK KoKaine apps
[08:41] <khermans> JoseStefan, yeah, in wget
[08:41] <neutrinomass> ajmitch_: Is obtaining a backtrace for a mono app any different? I think debug symbols don't show, right ?
[08:41] <khermans> JoseStefan, i grep the output of wget -- very hacky
[08:41] <Saj> t-18 minutes
[08:41] <herbheart> F-Spot runs on top of mono yes it does
[08:41] <lastnode> so wants to hit up a tropical DRP? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SriLankanTeam/DapperReleaseParty :)
[08:41] <intelikey> Watson it's just a linux distro.
[08:41] <Watson> intelikey: I am aware...
[08:42] <Phlosten> aww no party near me :(
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Saj, I could have sworn it was 18 hours, not 18 minutes.
[08:42] <lastnode> Phlosten, organize one
[08:42] <khermans> JoseStefan, what is the syntax of a HEAD request?
[08:42] <Watson> What's with all the apps on Mono? I'm just curious why they use Mono.
[08:42] <JoseStefan> khermans: head should be more efficient, but you'd have to program it
[08:42] <ajmitch_> neutrinomass: you'll generally want the exception traceback that f-spot spits out - what problem are you having?
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Phlosten, just Adelaide and Sydney.
[08:42] <Phlosten> lastnode, will be a large party with 1 attendee :)
[08:42] <Seveas> khermans, lynx -dump -head
[08:42] <khermans> JoseStefan, I can use netcat
[08:42] <lastnode> Phlosten, get people!
[08:42] <JoseStefan> khermans: you'd have to send HTTP headers, with an if-modified-since flag
[08:42] <neutrinomass> ajmitch_: Just ran across bug #47807
[08:42] <herbheart> Watson, c# and the mono platform are pretty cool and powerful
[08:42] <Watson> except when they fail to work :\
[08:42] <Saj> fujitso: releasing @ 1st jun....18 minutes till 1st jun in california :)
[08:42] <pschulz01> apt-get install dapper-party
[08:42] <Phlosten> Fujitsu, not organising a partee in Melbourne?
[08:43] <herbheart> Watson, I suspect they were buiilt as proof of concepts
[08:43] <Josh43> 18 hours? damn
[08:43] <Watson> hmmm
[08:43] <dhjohnson3> i'm allergic to chunder
[08:43] <JoseStefan> khermans: you're method seems to work, you only need it for 1 day
[08:43] <ajmitch_> neutrinomass: wonderful
[08:43] <Fujitsu> Phlosten, no. YukiCuss and I have exams on Monday, so not much time.
[08:43] <herbheart> tomboy (built on mono) rocks
[08:43] <vinboy> hi
[08:43] <Seveas> Josh43, less than 18, maybe 7;)
[08:43] <Josh43> well, one bonus: the torrent is going to FLY
[08:43] <khermans> JoseStefan, don't wanna bog down the server
[08:43] <vinboy> is it possible to delete file from NTFS partition?
[08:43] <Watson> I only use one Mono app right now and it's text-based
[08:43] <Seveas> vinboy, no
[08:43] <EpicWang> weeoo weeoo weeoo!
[08:43] <freakabcd> Fujitsu, think of use in brissie dude!
[08:43] <khermans> Seveas, thanks for the tip -- ill use less bandwidth now :-)
[08:43] <[1] Jess> 18 hours is their way of saying "go to bed"!  lol
[08:43] <Josh43> It's already 06/01 here (MST)
[08:43] <vinboy> thx Seveas
[08:43] <freakabcd> s/use/us/
[08:43] <digerati> this tomboy is cool :)
[08:43] <Watson> I think a lot of the GUI ones just had a lot of libs I never installed
[08:44] <rpaul> banshee is a good mono program
[08:44] <lastnode> pschulz01, Package dapper-party is a virtual package provided by: dapper-party-asia, dapper-party-us, dapper-party-africa
[08:44] <lastnode> ;-)
[08:44] <Fujitsu> It's 16:44 here :)
[08:44] <Watson> I read about Banshee, supposedly it supported iTunes & DAAP?
[08:44] <Linuturk> asl
[08:44] <Seveas> ajmitch_, don't count on it
[08:44] <Watson> Linuturk: 89/h/ukraine
[08:44] <gollum> Where is it? Where is it!
[08:44] <lastnode> ajmitch_, i doubt it. then we'll have the "oh lookie, dapper does this"
[08:44] <JoseStefan> khermans: you just need some sort of "link checker", one should exist out there
[08:44] <rpaul> Watson: is certainly does
[08:44] <freakabcd> Watson, h == ?
[08:44] <lastnode> Mithrandir, i was in a hurry :p
[08:44] <freakabcd> lol
[08:44] <rpaul> http://banshee-project.org
[08:44] <khermans> JoseStefan, wait HEAD doesnt help here
[08:44] <Mithrandir> ajmitch_: hahahah.  More sane?  It'll take off completely!
[08:44] <digerati> what does dapper party do?
[08:44] <gollum> They promised it to us today, they did...
[08:44] <lastnode> digerati, man joke
[08:45] <Watson> rpaul: cool, I will have to figure out this Mono business... all these Java apps for iTunes are crappy
[08:45] <sam__> Josh43 It's 23:44 MST
[08:45] <digerati> k
[08:45] <Linuturk> you meet chicks at a dapper release party
[08:45] <freakabcd> lastnode, man joke: No manual entry for joke
[08:45] <lastnode> freakabcd, :)
[08:45] <pschulz01> has a dependency on beer
[08:45] <Linuturk> heh
[08:45] <lastnode> bash is so humourless sometimes
[08:45] <JoseStefan> khermans: head can monitor a change on the directory listing
[08:45] <khermans> Linuturk, i think at the Dapper release party everyone had their dongles out
[08:45] <Josh43> sam__; uhm... mst = -7 gmt
[08:45] <scheuri> why on earth are all like "tear them apart if they dont release today" and whatever...it is done when its done, isn't it?
[08:45] <khermans> JoseStefan, syntax?
[08:45] <lastnode> pschulz01, and your env variable SELF_ATTRACTIVENESS has to be set to "10"
[08:45] <freakabcd> lastnode, no. thats not bash. its man that complaining
[08:45] <Watson> because if I have it installed before you, that means I win.
[08:45] <lastnode> freakabcd, yes, semantics, man, bash whatever
[08:45] <Mithrandir> scheuri: we will release today, so that's ok.
[08:45] <rixxon> how can i disable the minimize animation?
[08:46] <Josh43> scheuri: Yeah, no kidding.. it's a couple months overdue in the first place
[08:46] <herbheart> Watson, I'd be wary of banshee only because of experience with F-Spot
[08:46] <pschulz01> renice 10
[08:46] <freakabcd> maybe you'll be happier if you did: alias woman='man'; woman joke
[08:46] <gollum> Curse the Shuttleworth! I personally prefer polished LTS.capable distro over punctual release...but that is only me
[08:47] <digerati> lol dongle ports
[08:47] <sam__> Josh43: nope
[08:47] <khermans> apparantly ubuntu-women.org supports women using Ubuntu, so there must only be like 1.5% dognle ports available at the release parties, compared to 98.5% dongles
[08:47] <Watson> lol dumb innuendo
[08:47] <sam__> MDT is.
[08:47] <herbheart> Watson, I use mpd (musidpd.org) but I don't have an ipod
[08:47] <Watson> herbheart: I don't have an iPod either. But I am in a college dorm with a lot of people sharing music over iTunes.
[08:47] <Madpilot> khermans: mind the CoC, please...
[08:47] <VR_> herbheart: do you know of any equalizer plugins for mpd?
[08:48] <khermans> Madpilot, ok ill won
[08:48] <Watson> I used to use MusicPD on my very slow server - it was great
[08:48] <khermans> Madpilot, ill keep my CoC away from the dongle parties
[08:48] <Josh43> scheuri: Oh, of course - I'm not arguing, I'm just going over what I'm going to do with dapper final :) Been testing and loving it, now format
[08:48] <intelikey> scheuri no.  it's not "only you"  :)
[08:48] <scheuri> intelikey: thanks...;)
[08:48] <herbheart> VR_ no eq for mpd. I use an external hardware mixer with an eq
[08:48] <EpicWang> gonna go try my xgl sweetness!
[08:48] <khermans> ipod support in Dapper is awesome
[08:48] <EpicWang> later
[08:48] <VR_> herbheart: ah, ok.
[08:48] <herbheart> I've been searching for an eq for mpd since I met mpd
[08:49] <scheuri> Josh43: okay, no worries..:)...I am using it now for a couple of weeks myself...looks very good...still, loads of people complain and I thing that is unfair
[08:49] <VR_> herbheart: if it had one, i wouldn't use anything else
[08:49] <La_PaRCa> Gotta reformat for dapper. Been running the same testing rig since hoary and now its being eaten alive by bitrot.
[08:49] <Watson> herbheart: there are EQs for ALSA and OSS, most likely.
[08:49] <scheuri> Josh43: and I mean complain in a bad manner...not the constructive critics
[08:49] <_kadaj_3> hi all
[08:49] <JoseStefan> khermans: you might have to run that HEAD request on a specific file, i suggest the MD5SUMS file
[08:49] <_kadaj_3> is that ubuntu 6.06 released?
[08:49] <Watson> What backends does mpd have again? I know it has esd, OSS, ALSA... what about JACK?
[08:49] <VR_> Watson: i searched for that stuff too, but never foiund anything
[08:49] <herbheart> yes Eq for Alsa, OSS and Jack, I think are why mpd doesn't do eq
[08:49] <eobanb> _kadaj_3, no.  read the topic please
[08:49] <VR_> found*
[08:49] <La_PaRCa> !+dapper
[08:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:50] <Josh43> scheuri: Yeah, there are alot of ppl who don't understand that it takes real work, not "omgz0rz; finsish it beotch'
[08:50] <Saj> t-10 minutes
[08:50] <Saj> :P:P:P:P
[08:50] <_kadaj_3> but it say today release
[08:50] <scheuri> Josh43: heh, couldn't point it out better...:)
[08:50] <JoseStefan> Can the output of lynx be done to stdout ?
[08:50] <eobanb> _kadaj_3, your point?
[08:50] <Seveas> _kadaj_3, today still has 17 hours and 10 minutes left
[08:50] <_kadaj_3> ok
[08:50] <herbheart> June 1 means anytime before June 2
[08:50] <Madpilot> actually, it's not even June 1st yet, not for 11 more minutes
[08:51] <khermans> JoseStefan, i still dont see how to check the links in a HEAD request
[08:51] <IsItOutYet> it is on my time zone
[08:51] <eobanb> Madpilot, depends on where you are.
[08:51] <JoseStefan> khermans: working on something for you...
[08:51] <herbheart> it's almost 2 hours in june you liar
[08:51] <khermans> JoseStefan, im trying ti with nc, but only get the real header -- no content
[08:51] <_kadaj_3> are you all waiting it release
[08:51] <Saj>  mins
[08:51] <[1] Jess> so  what was all this talk of Ubuntu having to many bugs for 5 year LTS?  did that get somewhat resolved?
[08:51] <Saj> 9mins
[08:51] <Josh43> Anyone: Is there an rss feed to the torrent when it drops?
[08:51] <Unenvarjo> here it's soon 10 am
[08:51] <JoseStefan> khermans: try this: lynx -head http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:51] <Saj> if not i coming to kill ubuntu team :D :P
[08:51] <Seveas> eobanb, ubuntu counts in UTC
[08:51] <JoseStefan> khermans: that will give you an idea
[08:51] <eobanb> [1] Jess, it's nothing to be worried about anymore.
[08:51] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: i don't know about lynx but w3m has the  -dump_head       dump response of HEAD request into stdout
[08:51] <khermans> Josh43, i wish -- dont think so -- see my script
[08:52] <neutrinomass> [1] Jess: Dapper has tens of thousands of bugs. Like all distros, like all versions of Windows. The problem is the critical bugs, which AFAIK have been mostly resolved....
[08:52] <scheuri> [1] Jess: Ubuntu has over 10'000 pakets of software available...I guess we agree that it is impossible to have a perfect release...but still, most of the troubles are resolved I guess...
[08:52] <Josh43> khermans: Where at? SOmeone should get on that - all the torrent apps take rss feeds these days, and the more the merrier
[08:52] <IsItOutYet> khermans, can you link that there script so it uploads the corresponding rss feed?
[08:52] <khermans> JoseStefan, still not a head request there...but good call!
[08:52] <JoseStefan> myleftfoot: i think i found it for lynx, it's -dump
[08:52] <intelikey> lynx | tee file.name     works too
[08:52] <khermans> IsItOutYet, which RSS feed?
[08:52] <scheuri> [1] Jess: hoewever, if you encounter one...plesae let the devs know it with as many information possible
[08:52] <JoseStefan> khermans: this is the final statement:
[08:52] <JoseStefan> khermans: this is the final statement:
[08:52] <Graig> cept there's bugs in the gnome-screensaver package.
[08:52] <encompass> goodness the channel is nuts today
[08:52] <JoseStefan> oops
[08:53] <JoseStefan> khermans: lynx -dump -head http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:53] <Josh43> JoseStefan: lol
[08:53] <tdn> When will it be released?!
[08:53] <cam> hi; is there a pkg to run a "no-ip" like server ?
[08:53] <eobanb> tdn, PLEASE read the topic.
[08:53] <herbheart> tdn, before June 2
[08:53] <dholbach> can't you guys just read<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and be done with it?
[08:53] <intelikey> encompass in yellow
[08:53] <tdn> eobanb: hehe. Yeah. I know :)
[08:53] <mjb> Hey can 'Always on visible Workspace' be set via command line?
[08:53] <eobanb> tdn, if you know, then why did you ask?
[08:53] <Bilford> I think in 7 minutes
[08:54] <tdn> eobanb: just for fun.
[08:54] <khermans> JoseStefan, what, should I go by the E-Tag?
[08:54] <JoseStefan> khermans: you'd want to monitor the last-modified field
[08:54] <Seveas> dholbach, i wish they could....
[08:54] <eobanb> tdn, we get someone like you asking every 10 minutes, all right?
[08:54] <JoseStefan> khermans: etag is another way
[08:54] <encompass> intelikey: yellow?
[08:54] <tdn> eobanb: heh. Ok. Sorry :)
[08:54] <Fujitsu> eobanb, more like every two or three.
[08:54] <IsItOutYet> dholbach, let us have our fun with our geeky script and red-headed schoolgirl giddyness
[08:54] <khermans> JoseStefan, what is someone modifies, but not putting Dapper up?
[08:54] <scheuri> Seveas, dholbach...if they did, we'd miss all the fun here, righ? ;)
[08:54] <JoseStefan> khermans: at least you'll have a reason to take a look at the website
[08:54] <dholbach> IsItOutYet: I won't stop you guys.
[08:55] <JoseStefan> khermans: you'll know something has changed
[08:55] <intelikey> encompass the channel is nuts today... in yellow....  as in just before red.
[08:55] <khermans> IsItOutYet, if you think of a way to auto download the torrent, i don't know what the final name of the torrent will be
[08:55] <dholbach> scheuri: oh well - I guess there's enough of fun out there for eveyrone. :-)
[08:55] <scheuri> dholbach: ;)
[08:55] <mjb> Hey can 'Always on visible Workspace' be set via command line?
[08:55] <IsItOutYet> khermans, you could always use curl to get those headers as well
[08:55] <[1] Jess> does anyone know if the RC was taken as the "final" version?
[08:55] <Fujitsu> mjb, I don't think so.
[08:55] <dholbach> !patience
[08:55] <JoseStefan> khermans: remember that currently holds the RC from the 25th, so any change should be for the "final"
[08:55] <Fujitsu> [1] Jess, there have been a number of changes.
[08:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:55] <mjb> cheers
[08:55] <herbheart> ok, that's enough channel watching for now...
[08:56] <khermans> IsItOutYet, ahh libraries!! who needs libs?? lol -- good ole backticks for phun
[08:56] <herbheart> gonna prepare my machines to seed the torrent
[08:56] <scheuri> uh...may we flood the channel with that patience-answer?? ;)
[08:56] <z4k4ri4> mjb: I think there's some utility that could do that but I forget the name
[08:56] <herbheart> !dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:56] <herbheart> I think the bot is cool :) . Later guys
[08:56] <Seveas> !dapper =~ s/24/18/
[08:56] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[08:57] <Fujitsu> You know what we need?
[08:57] <JoseStefan> khermans: with a HEAD statement, stress on the server is reduced to a minimum
[08:57] <Xore> BEER
[08:57] <khermans> JoseStefan, yeah i know
[08:57] <IsItOutYet> khermans, use curl -I  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS then watch for modifications on the "last-modified" line
[08:57] <philipacamaniac> amen
[08:57] <Fujitsu> A bot that automatically says `!dapper' whenever somebody joins the channel.
[08:57] <Mithrandir> Seveas: actually, s/18/17/ now, I think.
[08:57] <Xore> lets turn this into a drunken party!
[08:57] <herbheart> Seveas, what did that command just do?
[08:57] <Seveas> Mithrandir, true, but I'm not changing it every hour
[08:57] <JoseStefan> IsItOutYet, i was doing the same with lynx :S
[08:57] <Fujitsu> herbheart, replaced 24 with 18.
[08:58] <digerati> what's next an o.r.g.?
[08:58] <Mithrandir> Seveas: chicken. :-P
[08:58] <Xore> whoa...
[08:58] <IsItOutYet> JoseStefan, but curl is so much geekier!
[08:58] <herbheart> ahhhh... a perl bot
[08:58] <intelikey> herbheart updated the bots output for !dapper
[08:58] <Seveas> Mithrandir, hmm, eggs...
[08:58] <JoseStefan> IsItOutYet, don't have it installed at the time
[08:58] <IsItOutYet> JoseStefan, of course, brownie points for using perl_curl or whatever the lib is called
[08:58] <Bilford> 2 minutes
[08:58] <ofer0> I just love ubuntu... :)
[08:58] <ofer0> Need to get 829MB of archives.
[08:58] <ofer0> Wow, what a hit for the servers... damn
[08:58] <JoseStefan> IsItOutYet, i have a PHP link checker :P
[08:58] <encompass> I like the smily, never seen that...
[08:58] <encompass> what char is that?
[08:59] <Xore> yea
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Japanese...
[08:59] <scheuri> [1] Jess: you may install RC right now and update it as soon as final hits the "shelfes"....
[08:59] <Fujitsu> I think.
[08:59] <ofer0> encompass, newline
[08:59] <scheuri> shelves
[08:59] <Josh43> Fujitsu: Yeah
[08:59] <Bilford> Chinese
[08:59] <Xore> i was just about to comment... that is the most awesome abuse of characters as a smiley ever
[08:59] <encompass> how do I do that?
[08:59] <khermans> IsItOutYet, curl is better!  ill whip up another version to get all the torrents and seed them as soon as they are available...
[08:59] <Xore>
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Katakana `tsu'?
[08:59] <encompass> umm but how?
[08:59] <khermans> IsItOutYet, even if you fall asleep
[08:59] <myleftfoot> PST 2006-06-01. still waiting with a big grin and a few beers
[08:59] <Josh43> Fujitsu: No, not sure what it is, but not that
[08:59] <intelikey> encompass hehhe iv'e never seen it.   it's a and teo small squars
[08:59] <Mithrandir> encompass: U+30C4 KATAKANA LETTER TU
[08:59] <encompass> how do you type it?
[09:00] <[1] Jess> scheuri:  that's what I was thinking....  but I'm waiting for ubuntu so that xubuntu can get their first release out :)
[09:00] <JoseStefan> khermans: oh well, glad to help anywyas, at least i came up with the basis
[09:00] <IsItOutYet> khermans, yay! I guess I woulda done it, but mine would have been messy shell script.
[09:00] <philipacamaniac> happy new years! oh wait...
[09:00] <encompass> so, tell me, is Mark from england or africa or what
[09:00] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir, wow... I was right! I haven't done much Japanese lately...
[09:00] <encompass> the guys seems everywhere
[09:00] <scheuri> [1] Jess: you can always install other desktops on whatever (k|x)ubuntu you have installed
[09:00] <intelikey>  a
[09:00] <Madpilot> encompass: he's from South Africa; Canonical is based in London
[09:01] <Mithrandir> Madpilot: no, it's not.
[09:01] <Bilford> it;s 07:00, but still not out
[09:01] <Shotgun> hey, does unbuntu have systems in place to prevent particular programs from using lots of memory? i ask as i have a c program with a hash table and the program seg faults unless i have a frustratingly small table size
[09:01] <intelikey> hmm i can't cp and paste it either.
[09:01] <Mithrandir> Madpilot: Canonical it's based in the Isle of Man.
[09:01] <tapio_> When I change root password, Sudo doesn't seem to update to the new root password, must i specify a 'sudo password' or something?
[09:01] <[1] Jess> true.  but I was reading and apparently there's bugs if you use kubuntu before hand
[09:01] <mjb> Has anyone used (wmctrl) for setting up windows as always on?
[09:01] <VR_> i hate that dapper splashscreen on bootup :(
[09:01] <Madpilot> Mithrandir: only the lawyer's office. The actual office is in London, I'm pretty sure
[09:01] <Mithrandir> tapio_: your sudo password is your user password, not your root password.
[09:01] <eobanb> tapio_, sudo uses the password for the user logged in
[09:01] <eobanb> !tell tapio_ about sudo
[09:01] <DarkTower> oo man its only changed to 18 hours. looking like 2nd
[09:02] <Josh43>
[09:02] <tapio_> Oh, that sounds pretty unsecure. I'll read about it before complaining though. Thanks :)
[09:02] <robitaille> Madpilot:  officially Canonical is based at the Isle of Man...end of the official story  :)
[09:02] <guillem101> Bilford, 9:00 right here :-P
[09:02] <JoseStefan> a lot of people seem to be grabbing the daily
[09:02] <robitaille> Madpilot: unofficially, I think it is a bank office
[09:02] <intelikey> !tell tapio about sudo
[09:02] <eobanb> already did that, intelikey
[09:02] <eobanb> tapio_, using sudo is arguably only less secure if you unnecessarily enable the root user itself, as you have.
[09:03] <Josh43> ,
[09:03] <encompass> Josh43: haha
[09:03] <mjb> does anyone here use wmcntrl ?
[09:03] <intelikey> eobanb arguably
[09:03] <protocol1> dapper eta?
[09:03] <DarkTower> Josh43: How come you typeing hiragana?
[09:03] <Josh43> .
[09:03] <digerati> its 2am in jamaica. going to bed
[09:03] <mjb> sorry thats wmcrtl
[09:03] <tanek> !upgrade
[09:03] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:03] <mjb> q:q
[09:03] <encompass> mjb: is that the control pannel for Windowmaker?
[09:03] <eobanb> protocol1, read the topic please.
[09:03] <mjb> yup
[09:04] <tapio_> eobanb: Ok, so only the main user I set up when installing will have the ability to use sudo?
[09:04] <JoseStefan> it's the 1st on PST
[09:04] <Josh43> DarkTower: Enjoying the freedom of ubuntu smilies
[09:04] <encompass> mjb: yeah I use it alot
[09:04] <eobanb> tapio_, that's the default configuration for sudo, yes.
[09:04] <DarkTower> Josh43: oops katakana
[09:04] <mjb> can you set always on proerty on a window?
[09:04] <Seveas> gucharmap
[09:04] <mejobloggs> is ubuntu 64-bit very good? Or is it best to stick to 32 ?
[09:04] <DarkTower> Josh43: hehe sweet
[09:04] <eobanb> tapio_, it'd be pretty damn silly if every user on the machine was in sudoers
[09:04] <Josh43> DarkTower: THe last one was hebrew ;)
[09:04] <mjb> I want to be able to drag a window to a second screen and have it automatically set
[09:04] <eobanb> mejobloggs, it's fine except when trying to run certain 32-bit software.
[09:05] <Madpilot> tapio_: you can add other uses to the sudo list, if you want to
[09:05] <eobanb> mejobloggs, if you're running only free software, then you should have no problem at all.
[09:05] <DarkTower> Josh43: ubuntu rocks
[09:05] <Madpilot> other users, rather
[09:05] <Josh43> DarkTower: Hai!
[09:05] <intelikey> eobanb so if i try to hack your box and i use user name eoban  and you have used sudo in the last 15 minutes i have full root access ?
[09:05] <voraistos> Josh43, DarkTower: is there any good support on ubuntu for asian languages like on windows ?
[09:05] <mejobloggs> eobanb: sweet, thanks for that. Does 64 give any advantage?
[09:05] <encompass> mjb no idea
[09:05] <Noah0504> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=659&slide=4&title=ubuntu+6.06+screenshots
[09:05] <mjb> encompass any ideas?
[09:05] <Noah0504> haha
[09:05] <DarkTower> Josh43: bonsai!!!!!!!!!!
[09:05] <Josh43> voraistos: MUCH better than windows
[09:05] <Seveas> ZOMG PONIES EDGY HAS BEEN RELEASED
[09:05] <mjb> oahh no worries
[09:06] <Shotgun> is there any cmd that allows programs to use more RAM?
[09:06] <ice_1963> :)
[09:06] <Fujitsu> voraistos, Japanese support is great!
[09:06] <Shotgun> or a particular program
[09:06] <Josh43> Seveas: ROXZORZ
[09:06] <mjb> cool program though...
[09:06] <Healot> 64bit application has the memory space advantage, maybe processing speed too
[09:06] <Seveas>
[09:06] <Madpilot> Seveas: is this another op's cue to ban you now? ;)
[09:06] <Healot> tsu
[09:06] <protocol1> I am using the beta version....whats the command to upgrade to the official once its released?
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Seveas, that deserves a kick :P
[09:06] <voraistos> Josh43: can u explain? what about kanji support, spelling etc ?
[09:06] <eobanb> intelikey, first of all the box i'm running on right now is a powerbook with mac os x.  second of all, you'd have to know my user's password.  third of all, i'm not running ssh on here.  fourth i've changed sudo's config to be five minutes instead of 15
[09:06] <eobanb> intelikey, but you're welcome to try anyway...
[09:07] <Seveas> Fujitsu, true
[09:07] <Healot> voraistos: all even the interface could be in Japanese
[09:07] <IsItOutYet>
[09:07] <protocol1> I am using the beta version....whats the command to upgrade to the official once its released?
[09:07] <Josh43> voraistos: I'm not the best person to ask, but I have never had a problem reading, browsing, using different applications with Kanji (I don't understand it, but by default I can see it all works)
[09:07] <eobanb> protocol1, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <JoseStefan> Seveas, i could have slapped you with a large trout instead...
[09:07] <protocol1> ok
[09:07] <Seveas> JoseStefan, I prefer salmon
[09:07] <intelikey> eobanb i'm no hacker.   but you pointed out that, you do not use the 'default' sudo setup.    that's all i was about.  the default is not more secure.
[09:08] <Fujitsu> Tuna!
[09:08] <JoseStefan> Seveas: don't have salmon :(
[09:08] <rixxon> if i do ctrl+alt+backspace, will all programs end?
[09:08] <Madpilot> rixxon: yes
[09:08] <Mithrandir> intelikey: the default also requires you to control the same tty.
[09:08] <dhjohnson3> yes, forever
[09:08] <rixxon> Madpilot: ok thank you
[09:08] <eobanb> intelikey, then again, ubuntu doesnt run sshd by default, so i think the point is fairly moot.  if you care to discuss it more i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <voraistos> Josh43: the thing is windows has got a very complete support for japanese, and i wouldnt expectGNU/linux to ave such a thing.
[09:08] <Mithrandir> rixxon: you're not guaranteed that, but yes, usually.
[09:08] <Josh43> yikes cute:
[09:08] <myleftfoot> rixxon: the ones running in X yes
[09:08] <KLineD> later guys, happy dapper day and happy downloading :)
[09:08] <rixxon> i see
[09:08] <guillem101> rixxon, not the srervices
[09:09] <lightstar> is dapper officially out?
[09:09] <eobanb> voraistos, ubuntu has fairly good support for many languages, in fact
[09:09] <eobanb> lightstar, no
[09:09] <eobanb> lightstar, read the topic please
[09:09] <mejobloggs> i guess the download servers are going to be pretty maxed out when it is ou
[09:09] <rapha> will you use the torrent network for download?
[09:09] <Jeeves_> lightstar: See topic :)
[09:09] <Josh43> voraistos: I always had a problem with even trying to get the characters to show up properly.. If in doubt: try a livecd
[09:09] <lightstar> eobanb, oops..sorry
[09:09] <eobanb> rapha, you can if you like
[09:09] <DarkTower> voraistos: : Ubuntu rips XO support
[09:09] <stjepan> is dapper out?
[09:09] <lightstar> Jeeves_, missed the topic...oops
[09:09] <mejobloggs> my IP blocks torrents !! :(
[09:09] <Healot> voraistos: you can add Japanese or other language support in ubuntu
[09:09] <rapha> yea, I'm just curious who's going to use it
[09:09] <eobanb> stjepan, NO, please read the topic
[09:10] <DarkTower> stjepan: not yet
[09:10] <eobanb> rapha, for people already running ubuntu it's probably better just to use apt
[09:10] <JoseStefan> 17 hours to go
[09:10] <DarkTower> !dapper
[09:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:10] <intelikey> Mithrandir not really.  it only requires a tty takeover for the timed method  but the user password is the point.   not just the timed method.    but i know and don't dispute that a properly setup sudo is a more secure approach.
[09:10] <Josh43> voraistos: Case and point:  means system :)
[09:10] <DarkTower> eobanb: is the upgrade from breezy stable??
[09:11] <eobanb> DarkTower, what do you mean, exactly
[09:11] <redraslo> DarkTower: do you mean the current RC?
[09:11] <Fujitsu> Case in point, you mean, Josh43?
[09:11] <eobanb> DarkTower, using dist-upgrade i've had basically no real problems, and i even upgraded to dapper about a month ago.
[09:11] <voraistos> i already am using ubuntu folks;) ,and i am not talking about the interface language :p. (and yea i have a JP keyboard.) however ill take a look into that. try to use (just for a test) a JP keyboard with language bar and all that shit in windows, thats just awesome. I respect MS for hat.
[09:11] <DarkTower> eobanb: you were saying i thought that people already running ubuntu should use apt-get to upgrade instead of new install, but maybe i misread soz
[09:11] <Josh43> Fujitsu: Nope
[09:11] <eobanb> DarkTower, that's right.
[09:12] <DarkTower> eobanb: oo, k. this is my work machine though. would be a bit scared lol.
[09:12] <Healot> voraistos: nihongo wo shaberu?
[09:12] <eobanb> DarkTower, well you should be backing up your data regardless.
[09:12] <rixth> RIP The Pirate Bay. http://piratebay.org/
[09:12] <OmniD> voraistos: I'm sure there is a good enough IME equivelent
[09:12] <eobanb> rixth, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:12] <voraistos> Healot: yep, more for my girl than myself ;)
[09:12] <DarkTower> Healot: nihongo go hanashimas
[09:13] <OmniD> *no
[09:13] <DarkTower> eobanb: thanks for the help. What would be best, just back up my home directory?
[09:13] <eobanb> DarkTower, probably.
[09:13] <Nigel> how is everyone going to know when it is released?  hitting refresh on the http://www.ubuntu.com/download page?
[09:13] <OmniD> YEP
[09:13] <scheuri> DarkTower: you should do that everytime...
[09:13] <OmniD> Mines on auto-refresh Nigel
[09:13] <voraistos> OmniD: yea i have to take a look into that, so i can convert my girlfriend to ubuntu ;)
[09:13] <Fujitsu> Nigel, looking for the news on Ubuntu.com... Reading ubuntu-announce... Reading here...
[09:13] <Healot> voraistos: you can either change the keyboardto Japanese and isntall iimf/anthy/scim for Japanese input/dictionary
[09:14] <paniq> hm
[09:14] <DarkTower> eobanb: cheers. will it change the theme and look all new and everything. Dont mean to sound like a kid about a new toy lol
[09:14] <eobanb> DarkTower, i don't expect you to encounter any major problems when doing dist-upgrade, but you should hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
[09:14] <paniq> where in my user profile are the application menus stored?
[09:14] <ubuntubes> any alternative program that can utilize bandwidth?
[09:14] <aztun> hi
[09:14] <_kadaj_3> hi
[09:14] <aztun> is the release avaiable anywhere???????''''
[09:14] <scheuri> ubuntubes: may you be more specific?
[09:14] <Linuturk> !dapper
[09:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:14] <dizz1> NO! NOT YET
[09:14] <DapperLad> Dapper just got released!!!!
[09:14] <joshhendo> aztun: yes
[09:14] <eobanb> DarkTower, doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will prompt you to either use your existing gnome config or replace it with the package maintainer's version
[09:14] <occhi> so when the new release is out, can you just do a apt-get distupgrade?
[09:14] <DapperLad> Just kidding...
[09:14] <voraistos> Healot: yea that sounds good. scim is pretty old, i heard about it long time ago
[09:15] <paniq> !shuttleworth
[09:15] <ubotu> paniq: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:15] <paniq> ehehe
[09:15] <aztun> joshhendo: which server
[09:15] <DarkTower> eobanb:  sweeet thanks again
[09:15] <intelikey> well  i haven't seen anyone for tech help in a while.   sorry if i missed you.     i'm outa here.  dapper can release without me just fine.
[09:15] <joshhendo> aztun: I will get you a link
[09:15] <occhi> so when the new release is out, can you just do a apt-get distupgrade?
[09:15] <eobanb> occhi, yes.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[09:15] <IsItOutYet> occhi, yes
[09:15] <scheuri> occhi: actually you can do it right away already...
[09:15] <protocol1> occhi, yep
[09:16] <occhi> im running dapper, but i downloaded it a few days ago
[09:16] <joshhendo> aztun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[09:16] <protocol1> I know I am anxious
[09:16] <dholbach> occhi: use http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14 :)
[09:16] <occhi> just wondering what to do when the official one comes out
[09:16] <aztun> thx joshhendo
[09:16] <scheuri> occhi: just keep it updated...
[09:16] <eobanb> occhi, please read the topic...
[09:16] <ubuntubes> scheuri : Actually I want to allocate bandwidth to a specific pc, and how do I do that?
[09:16] <_kadaj_3> hahaha
[09:16] <voraistos> intelikey: but the nu ubuntu version release is more important than changing the millenium !
[09:16] <dholbach> occhi: you can upgrade now already
[09:16] <scheuri> ubuntubes: ah, okay...well...no idea..never done that with my computer (only router stuff)
[09:16] <rapha> they should release the next version at 0:00 next time  - they would save a lot of bandwidth from all the people reloading all the time or using scripts :))
[09:17] <occhi> eoband, im confused as to what i missed in the topic?
[09:17] <occhi> eobanb*
[09:17] <gambit> in dpkg-reconfigure locales, how do i select the box
[09:17] <_kadaj_3> :D
[09:17] <eobanb> occhi, how about the part where it says 'Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours!'
[09:17] <scheuri> gambit: spacebar doenst work?
[09:17] <occhi> eobanb, my question was regarding how to upgrade my current install when it is released
[09:17] <Healot> my personal favorite of Japanese Input > IIMF+Anthy engine
[09:18] <dhjohnson3> so what exactly are the developers or whomever doing right now?
[09:18] <gambit> spacebar nor x or #
[09:18] <Flannel> occhi: you don't need to do anything.  update-notifier will ask you if you want to update
[09:18] <hyphenated> dhjohnson3: hiding ;-)
[09:18] <Xore> dhjohnson3: enjoying a beer and watching us all panic
[09:18] <dhjohnson3> d'oh!
[09:18] <scheuri> dhjohnson3: probably they are at work? (its about 0800 in London, isnt it?)
[09:18] <dhjohnson3> double do'h!
[09:18] <ubuntubes> scheuri : so only router can do that? how about the ubuntu server? can it be?
[09:18] <timfrost> !upgrade
[09:18] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:18] <occhi> thanks Flannel, ive never used this distro till, about 5 minutes ago. just getting the feel for it and all :)
[09:18] <protocol1> dhjohnson3, doing finishing touch-ups
[09:18] <protocol1> ;)
[09:19] <dhjohnson3> but wouldn't they have been at work since way before midnight london time?
[09:19] <gambit> scheuri: nvm,  ty vmuch
[09:19] <Flannel> occhi: you'll have an icon on the top right of your screen, should be pretty apparent.
[09:19] <scheuri> ubuntubes: if you configure your ubuntu server to be a router (having at least 2 NICs) then you may...yes.
[09:19] <scheuri> gambit: easy...:)
[09:19] <dhjohnson3> protocoll, so how do they decide when to cut things off?
[09:19] <eobanb> dhjohnson3, they just decide
[09:19] <scheuri> ubuntubes: but I never had a linux system configured as router...so I am no help here, sorry
[09:19] <protocol1> when all of thier objectives been completed
[09:19] <Nigel> I wonder what the differences will be between the latest RC and the final release.  I'm going to feel like I wasted my time waiting for the final if it's not something significant.
[09:20] <paniq> nigel, no big difference
[09:20] <protocol1> there is a doc about the dapper goals somewhere I forget
[09:20] <ubuntubes> scheuri : :)
[09:20] <scheuri> Nigel it is quite unlikely a big diff...
[09:20] <paniq> nigel, i think some random icon touchups a few small updates, nothing fancy.
[09:20] <eobanb> Nigel, it's not anything significant, really.
[09:20] <IsItOutYet> Nigel, probably wont be a big difference. That why its called a "Release Candidate"
[09:20] <Burgundavia> protocol1: what sort of goals?
[09:20] <eobanb> paniq, not even that.
[09:20] <paniq> eobanb: from what i saw on my update manager list, yes.
[09:20] <protocol1> well....theres a doc on it somewhere in wiki
[09:20] <JoseStefan> i just want the ISOs
[09:20] <protocol1> !dapper
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:21] <protocol1> woops
[09:21] <paniq> eobanb: between rc1 and today there were a few package updates, one was related to icon artwork
[09:21] <paniq> eobanb: but i wasnt able to spot the difference.
[09:21] <ubuntubes> what is the command to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06? sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[09:21] <voraistos> !dapperandbeprecise
[09:21] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[09:21] <ubotu> voraistos: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:21] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:21] <myleftfoot> hehe, is anyone keeping a counter on how many times we typed !dapper today?
[09:21] <rapha> !dapper
[09:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:22] <JoseStefan> !edgy
[09:22] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[09:22] <paniq> !gksudo
[09:22] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[09:22] <JoseStefan> :P
[09:22] <Fujitsu> .ICEAuthority permissions-corruption FTW!
[09:22] <paniq> uhuh.
[09:22] <paniq> and then?
[09:22] <paniq> i ran gtk apps with sudo several times
[09:22] <Madpilot> myleftfoot: I think the bot logs # of requests, and it's visible somewhere
[09:23] <JoseStefan> !ubotu
[09:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:23] <Seveas> !gksudo =~ s/gtk/qt/
[09:23] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[09:23] <Seveas> it's qt f*ing up, not gtk
[09:23] <paniq> ok
[09:23] <Viaken> !update-manager
[09:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Viaken
[09:23] <mcmahons> so what's the news on dapper, how come it's gone from 24 to 18?
[09:23] <Viaken> What's the "-d" do for update manager?
[09:23] <JoseStefan> this should be funny:
[09:24] <JoseStefan> !windows
[09:24] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows - see also https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[09:24] <Madpilot> myleftfoot: check http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ - number of requests is listed right there
[09:24] <scheuri> mcmahons: time passes??
[09:24] <Viaken> mcmahons: Because time has passed? :P
[09:24] <Fujitsu> Yes, sudo amor stuffs things up :P
[09:24] <paniq> !ballmer
[09:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paniq
[09:24] <paniq> :(
[09:24] <myleftfoot> Madpilot: thanks
[09:24] <mcmahons> so when's it coming out, in 18 hours?
[09:24] <dhjohnson3> !judo-chop
[09:24] <ubotu> dhjohnson3: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:24] <Burgundavia> mcmahons: soonish
[09:24] <JoseStefan> less than 17h now
[09:24] <Madpilot> mcmahons: when it's ready
[09:24] <koasd> dapper is cool
[09:24] <z4k4ri4> !bdfl
[09:24] <joshhendo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[09:24] <ubotu> z4k4ri4: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:24] <mcmahons> Madpilot: no joke :)
[09:24] <eobanb> mcmahons, no, a year from now.  read the topic for chrissake
[09:24] <paniq> i wrote a poem on WGA by the way
[09:24] <paniq> http://www.paniq.org/blog/a_poem_on_wga
[09:25] <scheuri> STOP PLAYING WITH UBOTU
[09:25] <Prof_Frink> myleftfoot: 43 times since Wed May 31 08:47:23 2006
[09:25] <z4k4ri4> !ubotu
[09:25] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:25] <paniq> !cookie
[09:25] <ubotu> Hey paniq, creative commons is at http://creativecommons.org
[09:25] <myleftfoot> Prof_Frink: thanks
[09:25] <ubuntubes> my windows xp logon cannot identify aunthenticate ubuntu samba logon?? any suggestion??
[09:25] <Fujitsu> Thankyou Seveas!
[09:25] <scheuri> thank you
[09:25] <ec1ip5e> anybody would help me about kernel panic ?
[09:25] <myleftfoot> that seems low
[09:25] <mcmahons> eonbanb: don't get angry about it mate.
[09:25] <scheuri> ubuntubes: users are in sambapasswd? are they real users on your ubuntu?
[09:25] <eobanb> mcmahons, people like you ask when dapper will be out every five minutes.  all right?
[09:26] <koasd> ec1ip5e: in which situation you got this problem?
[09:26] <zelevw> 18 HRS"!"!!
[09:26] <Healot> Dapper mad society
[09:26] <scheuri> mcmahons: this is a support channel...people ask, people answer...but pleeeeease dont play around
[09:26] <scheuri> at least not too much
[09:26] <ubuntubes> scheuri : yes real users but cannot go into samba windows xp logon
[09:26] <Hisakasex> I have a problem with postfix again
[09:26] <zelevw> its 9,30 am June 1st...no dapper yet
[09:26] <Viaken> FUN IS NOT ALLOWED!
[09:27] <Viaken> *ahem*
[09:27] <ec1ip5e> koasd : i've just upgrade my SDRAM from 128MB to 256MB
[09:27] <encompass> when the files are redy for the common user, it is recommended we user the bittorrent right?
[09:27] <scheuri> ubuntubes: so, your win XP cant get access to share on samba?
[09:27] <shadow_mil> OK, is there a channel for xorg?
[09:27] <eobanb> encompass, you can use whatever method is most convenient for you.
[09:27] <Healot> #xorg
[09:27] <encompass> k
[09:27] <koasd> zelevw:where are you from?
[09:27] <shadow_mil> ah, yes
[09:27] <shadow_mil> thanks
[09:27] <troy_> !dapper
[09:27] <DarkTower> the developers of ubuntu are doing an amazing job. i just wanna say that. and im not looking for a job lol
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:27] <zelevw> koasd: boston but I live in spain now
[09:27] <Fujitsu> +1 DarkTower.
[09:27] <ubuntubes> scheuri : win XP can get access into share samba
[09:27] <evi|one>  How many seconds left? :D
[09:28] <prgrmr> :D
[09:28] <Chousuke> many.
[09:28] <lastnode> Fujitsu, is it out yet?
[09:28] <lastnode> xD
[09:28] <Hisakasex> I need to check if the email sent by a program that I have running, using postfix as mta is mal formed or something
[09:28] <scheuri> ubuntubes: okay....so win XP can't log in the user because it is authenticatin on a samba server?
[09:28] <Hisakasex> How can I do that?
[09:28] <Fujitsu> lastnode, I'll pummel you :P
[09:29] <Hisakasex> My gmail account receives emails from that program as spam
[09:29] <DarkTower> eobanb: will my apps like apache survive the change
[09:29] <JoseStefan> 59400 seconds left!
[09:29] <eobanb> DarkTower, sure.  i'd back up your apache config, etc., anyway
[09:29] <scheuri> Hisakasex: it may be considered spam because there is no reverse-DNS?
[09:30] <DarkTower> eobanb: thx
[09:30] <eobanb> DarkTower, on a similar note, why are you running a webserver on your work station
[09:30] <ubuntubes> scheuri : yes win XP cannot log in the users to my server1, just during the first win XP logon screen
[09:30] <scheuri> ubuntubes: sorry, cant help then...you might be more lucky at samba-channel
[09:30] <DarkTower> eobanb: even worse its a laptop lol! relax, i do some web application programming, need it for testing
[09:30] <IsItOutYet> Well, to stop the Dapper insanity. I wanna help out byt my LoCo is quite thin and I cannot get started. Who is in Montreal that would be willing to lead me into being more active in the community?
[09:31] <ubuntubes> scheuri : but when the users access from "my network places" then the popup window asking for username n password is ok.. they can access easily
[09:31] <eobanb> DarkTower, makes sense.
[09:31] <rapha> commoncommmoncommon I have to do something.   Most of our support staff is located there.
[09:31] <DarkTower> eobanb: i cant imagine programming on windows. so many tools i end up needing in linux when your programming
[09:31] <Burgundavia> IsItOutYet: join #ubuntu-ca
[09:31] <myleftfoot> IsItOutYet: yeah Tabarnac
[09:32] <JoseStefan> Dapper Countdown: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=6&day=2&year=2006&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p0=0
[09:32] <Fujitsu> Or not...
[09:32] <Fujitsu> It will not be released at 0:00Z June 2 either!
[09:33] <JoseStefan> :(
[09:33] <ubuntubes> scheuri : so when I log off windows xp then type in the users username n password, then it cannot.. :(
[09:33] <scheuri> ubuntubes: sorry...can't help you there...
[09:33] <ubuntubes> any expertise in samba here??
[09:33] <eobanb> ubuntubes, have you tried connecting from another windows machine
[09:33] <DarkTower> im watching the seconds, the go nice and quick
[09:34] <Mithrandir> Fujitsu: there's an infinite amount of points in time where it will not be released.
[09:34] <eobanb> Mithrandir, not according to quantum theory, actually.
[09:34] <dhjohnson3> lingwo
[09:34] <Fujitsu> Hey, Singaporekid!
[09:34] <jamie> i thought it was gonna be out this morning :-(, oh well
[09:34] <Skiddles^> :D
[09:34] <DarkTower> Mithrandir: thanks archilles lol
[09:34] <ubuntubes> eobanb yes I did.. but still cant get into server1
[09:34] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir, but they countdown was to June 2, 0:00Z.
[09:34] <Flannel> eobanb: there are though, because of the uncountability of irrational numbers.
[09:34] <tritium> eobanb: time is not an energy level
[09:34] <Fujitsu> Thus, my point was valid.
[09:34] <koasd> less than 16 hours from now
[09:34] <axion`> 1,000,000th time today, is it out yet?
[09:35] <eobanb> ubuntubes, then it's not an ubuntu problem, but in fact, a windows problem
[09:35] <koasd> no
[09:35] <koasd> still not
[09:35] <Seveas>
[09:35] <eobanb> tritium, doesnt matter.
[09:35] <axion`> =(
[09:35] <ubuntubes> eobanb : I guess it is because the configuration in smb.conf
[09:35] <jameyg> imagine how busy and overloaded this channel will be when it *is* actually out :-)
[09:35] <Flannel> Seveas: boxes!
[09:35] <Seveas> Flannel, PONIES
[09:35] <Skiddles^> _
[09:35] <axion`> i was gone for a few hours! i didnt get the latest
[09:35] <shadow_mil> does (k)ubuntu have agpgart support?
[09:35] <tarzeau> it's out already?
[09:35] <eobanb> tritium and flannel, it's called planck time
[09:35] <tritium> eobanb: yes, it does, actually.  Time is uncountably infinite
[09:35] <DarkTower> Flannel: real numbers, not necessarily irrational
[09:35] <cef> !pony
[09:36] <amac> its the early morning hours in the US
[09:36] <ubotu> ZOMG! PONIES!
[09:36] <rapha> !dapper
[09:36] <Skiddles^> omg ponies
[09:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:36] <Mithrandir> POOOOOOOOOOOONY
[09:36] <Unenvarjo> Pony!
[09:36] <eobanb> stop please.
[09:36] <Seveas> !forget pony
[09:36] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot pony
[09:36] <Flannel> eobanb: I'll gladly continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[09:36] <Skiddles^> >:3 OMG LIONS GET IN THE CAR
[09:36] <rapha> 9:37 o' clock here
[09:36] <Soir> I have a feeling it'll just get released as close as possible to the start of the working day today o.o
[09:36] <nomin> dapper drake will be released today?
[09:37] <shadow_mil> does (k)ubuntu have agpgart support?
[09:37] <amac> once it hits afternoon you'll have lots of "my computer caught fire cause of ubuntu" statements
[09:37] <scheuri> note to myself: avoid this channel 48h before a release
[09:37] <tritium> yes, shadow_mil
[09:37] <shadow_mil> tritium: how can I install it?
[09:37] <Seveas> scheuri, 24 is enough
[09:37] <Flannel> noob-saibot: do try and stop that.
[09:37] <ubuntubes> what is the actual time for ubuntu 6.06 out?
[09:37] <BeNi> how to get dapper?? just to type apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:37] <Skiddles^> Oh yeah, Dapper is going to be released, holy crap I forgot.
[09:37] <nomin> I heard there are quite a few bugs still in dapper
[09:37] <scheuri> Seveas: ;)
[09:37] <DarkTower> Flannel: why would you be counting all the irrational number. pi 1 pi 2 lol
[09:37] <rapha> !dapper
[09:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:37] <tritium> shadow_mil: it's a kernel module, so you can make sure it's loaded, if it's not already
[09:37] <ompaul> note to scheuri explain your presence
[09:38] <Fujitsu> Good point, ompaul.
[09:38] <scheuri> ompaul: explanation: the naive thought, that there MIGHT be a question I may be able to answer and help
[09:38] <shadow_mil> tritium: Thanks, what does that mean exactly?
[09:38] <eobanb> nomin, there are surely remaining bugs, but the number is quite manageable now, to the point where dapper is ready for production use.
[09:38] <BeNi> how to get dapper?? just to type apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:38] <ompaul> hehe
[09:38] <DarkTower> Flannel: sorry, am i pushing my luck
[09:38] <ompaul> !upgrade
[09:38] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:38] <tritium> shadow_mil: if you "lsmod | grep agpgart", and it's listed in the output, you already have the module loaded
[09:39] <scheuri> ompaul: enjoy
[09:39] <ompaul> it is my intention to do so
[09:39] <rapha> have a look at ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[09:39] <tritium> ompaul: duck, by chance?  :)
[09:39] <ompaul> tritium, burnt dragon
[09:39] <shadow_mil> agpgart                34888  1 intel_agp
[09:39] <Fujitsu> :O
[09:39] <BadriNarayan> why is rapha ejected?
[09:39] <Fujitsu> rapha mentioned the forbidden URL!
[09:40] <BadriNarayan> oh i c
[09:40] <Flannel> DarkTower: well, the innumerability of real numbers comes from the innumerability of irrational numbers.   Can somebody tell me if there is something like "Band in a Box" for Ubuntu
[09:41] <Flannel> montbazin: what is "band in a box"?
[09:42] <DarkTower> Flannel: sorry, uncountability has nothing to with irrational number, they are special number that can't be expressed as a/b  for integers ab where b !=0. real numbers are all the numbers on the number line, they are the uncountables, not trnsendentals and the like of i, e and pi
[09:42] <Fujitsu> DarkTower, this is off-topic :)
[09:43] <DarkTower> Fujitsu: ok sorry
[09:43] <montbazin> Flannel: it's a music software which generates an accompagniment to play with.
[09:43] <BadriNarayan> about ubuntu's samba: isn't there anybody else who thinks "security=share" should be default?
[09:43] <Fujitsu> No.
[09:43] <dooglus> Josh43: no, less than 18 hours
[09:43] <Flannel> DarkTower: I'm fully aware of what irrational numbers are.  It's just been a long day.
[09:43] <DarkTower> BadriNarayan: no security=share is not secure. Linux doesnt put unsafe things as defualt
[09:43] <tritium> Flannel: the irrationals are countably infinite, actually.  See Cantor's diagonilization proof for details
[09:43] <Josh43> dooglus: ?
[09:43] <joshhendo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ ?
[09:43] <BadriNarayan> I see thanks darktower
[09:44] <tritium> diagonalization, even
[09:44] <Fujitsu> joshhendo, your point?
[09:44] <nomin> in what ways is dapper better than breezy?
[09:44] <DarkTower> Flannel: sorry about that, same here, was being argumentative.
[09:44] <Flannel> tritium: right, that's the point.
[09:44] <myleftfoot> joshhendo: that's just the daily build
[09:44] <joshhendo> ok
[09:44] <BeNi> !upgrade
[09:44] <joshhendo> I just wanted to know if that was the final or what :S
[09:44] <scheuri> nomin: newer software, more implementations, new software
[09:44] <BadriNarayan> bad question
[09:45] <BadriNarayan> very risky
[09:45] <tritium> Flannel: your point is what?
[09:45] <scheuri> nomin: where newer software means that software from breezy is in it in a newer version and more software was added
[09:45] <nomin> cool
[09:45] <halibut> montbazin, nothing that I know of
[09:45] <rpedro_> montbazin: take a look at  http://ubuntustudio.com/
[09:45] <nomin> I hope qjoypad is in dapper
[09:46] <halibut> montbazin, you might be able to run BIAB under linux though
[09:46] <nomin> qjoypad should be available in every distro
[09:46] <dooglus> Josh43: I had my buffer scrolled up.  I saw "08:43 < Josh43> 18 hours? damn" and replied...  about an hour too late.
[09:46] <Seveas> !info qjoypad dapper
[09:46] <nomin> http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[09:46] <scheuri> nomin: I am sure the homepage will have information about the difference
[09:46] <Flannel> tritium: nothing, it's dead.  at a micro scale, irrational numbers are infinite.
[09:46] <halibut> montbazin, do you have the 2006 version?
[09:46] <dooglus> Flannel: no numbers are infinite
[09:46] <scheuri> nomin: gimme a sec I will check
[09:46] <DarkTower> dooglus: yes they are
[09:46] <nomin> qjoypad is a keystroke and mouse emulator for a joystick or gamepad.  It's very useful but no available on ubuntu yet.
[09:46] <dooglus> DarkTower: which ones?
[09:46] <Flannel> dooglus: how many integers are there then?
[09:47] <JoseStefan> isn't Pi infinite?
[09:47] <Josh43> dooglus: Lol - yeah, only a little late. Hey, it's 2am here; where's my Dapper? ;P
[09:47] <tritium> Flannel: scale is irrelevant.  They are countably infinite, Flannel, dooglus.
[09:47] <dooglus> Flannel: all the integers are finite
[09:47] <DarkTower> dooglus: tell me all the decimal places of pi
[09:47] <dooglus> DarkTower: pi is irrational
[09:47] <tritium> no, dooglus.  Okay, let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <DarkTower> tritium: he knows that i misunderstood him, its finished
[09:47] <dooglus> DarkTower: but it's not infinite
[09:47] <dooglus> DarkTower: in fact it's less than 7
[09:47] <Flannel> I agree. offtopic for math stuffs.
[09:47] <tritium> dooglus: the _set_ is infinite
[09:48] <dooglus> tritium: yes, that's true.  but the numbers aren't infinite
[09:48] <DarkTower> dooglus: thats the very definition of irational
[09:48] <scheuri> nomin: I am afraid, I cant find anything
[09:48] <Seveas> DarkTower, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <BadriNarayan> Suppose I wish to write a wishlist for shares-admin to allow adding samba users through GUI. Which package in launchpad should I look at?
[09:48] <JoseStefan> it's a matter of interpretation
[09:48] <Seveas> BadriNarayan, gnome-system-tools
[09:48] <nomin> scheuri:  I'm not too surprised.  I think it's the only program for emulating keystrokes and a mouse with a joystick on linux.
[09:48] <BadriNarayan> Thank you Seveas
[09:48] <DarkTower> Seveas: sorry. i said id stop and kept doing it. I wont continue.
[09:49] <MadMerC> can anyone tell me how to make thunderbird my default mail prog ??
[09:49] <McNutella> it STILL Not released then ?
[09:49] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[09:49] <scheuri> McNutella: CET is not the only timezone
[09:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:49] <JoseStefan> McNutella, view topic
[09:49] <Almenfors> have they released dapper yet?
[09:49] <scheuri> LOL
[09:49] <Almenfors> oh nm
[09:49] <McNutella> i read topic, obviously.. feeling a little dissapointed
[09:49] <scheuri> ;)
[09:50] <dholbach> McNutella: disappointed? why that?
[09:50] <Almenfors> u answerd it as i asked hehe and ill check the topic now. sorry =)
[09:50] <JoseStefan> i call a vote re-update the hours on the topic
[09:50] <McNutella> how do you work that out JoseStefan
[09:50] <montbazin> halibut: no I dont have BB , what is BIAB and where can I get it2006
[09:51] <Almenfors> is there a version of utorrent for linux? or something similar?
[09:51] <_nano_> ktorrent
[09:51] <JoseStefan> McNutella, i dont know, but it's been like an hour since the last topic update
[09:51] <scheuri> Almenfors: yes there are
[09:51] <Kr0ntab> maintainers are at their own little pre-release function gettin drunk off their butts... laughin at us.  :-)
[09:51] <Burgundavia> Almenfors: ubuntu already has a bittorrent client built in
[09:51] <scheuri> Almenfors: do a "aptitude search torrent" in your CLI
[09:51] <Almenfors> Burgundavia, that one built in sux.
[09:51] <McNutella> JoseStefan,  I guess a lttle mathematics is in order then.. 17 or so hours then I take it LOL
[09:51] <Ocult> what time will release the new version ????
[09:51] <Ocult> :O
[09:51] <Ocult> what time ?
[09:52] <McNutella> Ocult, shhh
[09:52] <JoseStefan> McNutella, indeed
[09:52] <montbazin> rpedro_: thanks I'll check that
[09:52] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[09:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:52] <Ocult> [McNutella] : ?
[09:52] <halibut> montbazin, biab = band in a box
[09:52] <McNutella> Ocult, do what I did, look at the topic after asking
[09:52] <eobanb> Ocult, read the topic next time first
[09:52] <Ocult> |eobanb|: but i wanna more details
[09:52] <montbazin> halibut: OK
[09:52] <Ocult> [eobanb] : it can be more precise
[09:52] <Ocult> ?
[09:52] <McNutella> Ocult, tough :)
[09:52] <eobanb> perhaps you missed the part, Ocult, where it says '(NO, we cannot be more precise)'
[09:53] <BadriNarayan> It is rather simple:ocult keep wanting
[09:53] <mcmahons> i don't understand why you are getting angry about people asking about when dappers coming out. obviously people are excited, why rain on their parade?
[09:53] <eobanb> mcmahons, because someone asks every five minutes.
[09:53] <JoseStefan> Ocult, if you find anything, you tell us, and we will update everyone
[09:53] <Ocult> [[eobanb] ] : OH.. my anxious made me blank
[09:53] <g_c_c> im probably the only person that doesn't know this, but does kde 3.5 have better accessability support?
[09:53] <Fujitsu> mcmahons, people ask excruciatingly regularly.
[09:53] <scheuri> mcmahons: it is not the asking itself, but probably the numbers of people asking it...and it is written ALL over
[09:53] <Ocult> JoseStefan: in bittorrente have the final version
[09:53] <scheuri> mcmahons: people tend to be lazy when it comes to reading...:)
[09:53] <EmxBA> when is dapper going to be released
[09:54] <EmxBA> really
[09:54] <philipacamaniac> It will be released at exactly^F^F^F^F^F^F^F^F (transmission terminated)
[09:54] <eobanb> EmxBA, please stfu.
[09:54] <g_c_c> ...
[09:54] <g_c_c> wow...
[09:54] <tritium> eobanb: be nice
[09:54] <Ocult> hahahaha
[09:54] <BadriNarayan> lol
[09:54] <Seveas> tritium, he said please
[09:54] <McNutella> eobanb, dont be like that
[09:54] <JoseStefan> Ocult: it's not "final" until the "offical" announcment
[09:54] <mcmahons> scheuri: i read it, but for example jeff waugh was in here before. surely he knows when it's being released. i was just hoping someone knew
[09:54] <g_c_c> i dunno, be like that eobanb
[09:54] <scheuri> tritium: actually...he was...he said please...sorry...couldnt resist
[09:54] <EmxBA> eobanb: in next 18 hours
[09:54] <Linuturk> !dapper
[09:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:54] <tritium> Seveas: lol, okay...
[09:54] <halibut> montbazin, there is hydrogen, which is just a drum machine
[09:54] <Ocult> ALL KNOW TODAY UBUNTU WILL BE REALESE.. THEN PUT IN TOPIC  ..  Drapper drak will be realesed less than 24hours
[09:54] <Ocult> HAHAHAHAHA
[09:55] <ompaul> !shout
[09:55] <ubotu> shout is probably WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[09:55] <Fujitsu> .bans
[09:55] <Healot> Mark will announce that, have patience
[09:55] <KenSentMe> !tell me about upgrade
[09:55] <dholbach> !tell me about upgrade too
[09:55] <Skiddles^> !dance
[09:55] <Seveas> !shout =~ s/WE/<reply> WE/
[09:55] <ubotu> Skiddles^: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[09:55] <bliss_> ompaul; morning
[09:55] <Skiddles^> Ooh, a link :D
[09:55] <RancidLM> hey all
[09:55] <mcmahons> how hot is the chick on the server picture on the ubuntu site :)
[09:55] <ompaul> dholbach, it is when a server hugs your computer :-)
[09:55] <moon456> I guess every five minutes or so someone could type "!dapper" for the new comers that forget to read the topic
[09:56] <ompaul> bliss_, morning
[09:56] <Healot> the asian chick? mcmahons?
[09:56] <dholbach> ompaul: ahhhh now I understand
[09:56] <x3on> where is some info on ubuntu server?
[09:56] <RancidLM> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:56] <scheuri> moon456: they do not forget...they just dont
[09:56] <eobanb> mcmahons, that stock photo is all over the place
[09:56] <mcmahons> Healot: haha shes hot too, but I meant the server one.
[09:56] <BadriNarayan> Seveas, what is that substitution?
[09:56] <scheuri> x3on: on their homepage
[09:56] <OffHand> less then 18 hrs from when?
[09:56] <ompaul> dholbach, I knew you would
[09:56] <mcmahons> eobanb: doesn't reduce the hotness
[09:56] <philipacamaniac> mcmahons: wow, we're proving that we really are a large crowd of geeks
[09:56] <JoseStefan> does ubotu work for peanuts?
[09:56] <jdub> mcmahons: *soon*
[09:56] <Healot> mcmahons: sure, hot looking
[09:56] <samuel> can u download the final 6.06 yet ? cliche woo
[09:56] <bliss_> the ofical time i read was 12 noon GMT
[09:56] <ompaul> jdub, not soon enough :-)
[09:56] <McNutella> bliss_, from ?
[09:57] <jdub> hint -> the UK is only just getting in to work
[09:57] <philipacamaniac> !peanuts
[09:57] <g-nome> so where can i download this dapper?
[09:57] <ubotu> philipacamaniac: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <bliss_> OFFICIAL
[09:57] <philipacamaniac> nope
[09:57] <mcmahons> jdub: as a fellow aussie, is it before bed or tomorroww morning?
[09:57] <RancidLM> gmt? they canadian?
[09:57] <highvoltage> dapper dapper dapper!!!
[09:57] <scheuri> jdub: at 0900am? lazy people...;)
[09:57] <samuel> can u download it yet?
[09:57] <Healot> GMT, Britain time
[09:57] <g-nome> nope
[09:57] <La_PaRCa> !dapper
[09:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:57] <BadriNarayan> Can someone tell me what the regexp by Seveas meant? I don't get it
[09:57] <jdub> mcmahons: dunno, i assume it will be very soon, but it depends on what your bedtime is.
[09:57] <bliss_> McMutella:; Madpilot
[09:57] <JoseStefan> samuel: in 18 hours you can
[09:57] <mcmahons> philipacmaniac: haha well i am waiting for a new linux distro
[09:58] <jdub> yo seb128
[09:58] <mcmahons> jdub: ok cool
[09:58] <McNutella> id just like a long pipe full of good stuff to smoke while I wait
[09:58] <scheuri> ompaul: which, at server end, you need to share with 1000000 people...;)
[09:58] <philipacamaniac> mcmahons: so are 928 other nerds
[09:58] <philipacamaniac> :)
[09:58] <g-nome> so 18 loooong hours
[09:58] <jdub> everyone cheer seb128 and dholbach, our awesomely-awesome gnome maintainers!
[09:58] <mcmahons> philipacmaniac: haha hilarious
[09:58] <zaphod_> when is it happening? 18 hours is too much
[09:58] <McNutella> lol
[09:58] <JoseStefan> it's still May-31 in Hawaii, right?
[09:58] <ompaul> scheuri, no its a hundred back direct to one of the mirrors
[09:58] <mcmahons> haha woot go seb and dholbach
[09:58] <Lukketto> !dapper
[09:58] <seb128> hey jdub :)
[09:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:59] <RancidLM> GMT its 07:58:00
[09:59] <scheuri> ompaul: oh okay...lucky...;)
[09:59] <BadriNarayan> 3 cheers for seb and dholbach
[09:59] <McNutella> lets all do some magic, it might JUST Happen LOL
[09:59] <g_c_c> so what will actually be changing between releases?
[09:59] <ompaul> 3 cheers for all
[09:59] <zaphod_> is it available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:59] <zaphod_> thats the final version, right?
[09:59] <Skiddles^> Boo, antigravity/upside-down/inverse tetris. my eyes hurt.
[09:59] <McNutella> hee hee
[09:59] <bliss_> ompaul: might as well go back to bed
[09:59] <myleftfoot> zaphod_: nope that's the daily build
[09:59] <BadriNarayan> g_c_c see the changelog on the wiki
[09:59] <g-nome> zaphod: is it?
[09:59] <zaphod_> on the forums, it says that it is
[09:59] <mcmahons> jdub: if i just do a dist-upgrade, will that be dapper final or still be an rc?
[09:59] <montbazin> halibut : thanx
[10:00] <philipacamaniac> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:00] <g-nome> how was the first dapper beta been released?
[10:00] <zaphod_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1075007#post1075007
[10:00] <g_c_c> thx
[10:00] <g-nome> i mean when has the first dapper beta been released
[10:00] <JoseStefan> zaphod_: is that "official" ?
[10:00] <jdub> mcmahons: that
[10:00] <zaphod_> look at the forum link
[10:00] <Seveas> JoseStefan, no
[10:00] <jdub> mcmahons: there's not much in the way of package uploading going on now...
 Seveas : i got a disk which is 52G full on a running system, another disk which is 60G full, i want to rsync
[10:01] <lsuactiafner>                the 52G to the 60G, but when i try it the 60G of free space fills up, why would that be?        rsync --exclude
[10:01] <lsuactiafner>                /mnt/ --links -aH --partial --progress --exclude=/tmp* --exclude=/proc* --exclude=/sys* / /mnt/01/PC
[10:01] <Flannel> g-nome: dapper beta was released a week or two ago.
[10:01] <JoseStefan> i was using reverse psicology so he could answer his own question :/
[10:01] <g-nome> no, but i mean the *first* dapper thing
[10:01] <mcmahons> jdub: ok cool
[10:01] <scheuri> werent flights betas too=
[10:01] <scheuri> ?
[10:01] <ubuntu> jkkjkhkjjjkghk
[10:01] <jdub> scheuri: flights were regarded as 'alpha'
[10:01] <ubuntu> ldkgiiui
[10:01] <g-nome> i just want to know how LONG the period of testing was
[10:01] <scheuri> jdub: ah, okay
[10:01] <Flannel> haha, nice Seveas.
[10:02] <kakalto> when's the countdown? xD
[10:02] <neutrinomass> g-nome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[10:02] <eobanb> best reason ever
[10:02] <JoseStefan> development took 9 months, didn't it?
[10:02] <Auckland_Pig> whats the free node record for no. of users on IRC channel?
[10:02] <dholbach> JoseStefan: 6 months + 6 weeks
[10:02] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, if i had to guess, it's probably around 2000 users
[10:02] <g-nome> neutrinomass: that resumes it quite well - ty
[10:02] <JoseStefan> ok
[10:02] <Auckland_Pig> 2000... hmmm thats a lot
[10:02] <OmniD> So is this one of the bigger updates?
[10:03] <Auckland_Pig> hope it will reach 1000 users :)
[10:03] <eobanb> OmniD, uhhh yeah.
[10:03] <OmniD> To say the least or what
[10:03] <OmniD> I wouldn't know eobanb sorry
[10:03] <JoseStefan> 1000 on the first 3 days
[10:03] <g-nome> will dapper always have the new updates for software?
[10:03] <g-nome> and for the kernel??
[10:03] <philipacamaniac> g-nome: only security updates
[10:03] <tritium> g-nome: security updates, yes
[10:04] <McNutella> g-nome, one would assume so
[10:04] <bliss_> most folks have in some form or other already just getting ready to pop the cork
[10:04] <jdub> g-nome: no, focus post-release is security and major bugfixes
[10:04] <JoseStefan> g-nome: there will be different repositories for different need
[10:04] <JoseStefan> needs
[10:04] <Auckland_Pig> i did "update-manager -d" and am getting too many updates... how do i disable it?
[10:04] <scheuri> McNutella: this assumption is quite shortsighted in business and stability manner
[10:04] <Lukketto> !dapper
[10:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:04] <zjimbo> I feel iv been lied to 1st June 4:00PM and still no Dapper
[10:04] <McNutella> meh
[10:04] <eobanb> zjimbo, it's not 2 june yet
[10:04] <McNutella> hahahah
[10:04] <Auckland_Pig> woo hooo 18 hours :)
[10:04] <jdub> zjimbo: there's a lot of 1st June to go around teh world (hint: people doing the release are on UK time)
[10:05] <scheuri> zjimbo: there are mor than just one timezone in this world...
[10:05] <JoseStefan> some countries are still @ May-31, we have to be fair :D
[10:05] <moon456> for those anxious to use dapper, you can always upgrade to (or install) the rc version and then when the official version is release do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:05] <jsgotangco> yo!
[10:05] <lightstar> jdub, 15 hours 54 minutes
[10:05] <Seveas> jsgotangco, yo homeboy
[10:05] <bliss_> zjimbo: you could always go to bed and wake to a new day in say 18 hours
[10:05] <joshhendo> is that how much longer to go?
[10:05] <philipacamaniac> it is 8:05 am UK time
[10:05] <Auckland_Pig> its 8pm in auckland :D
[10:05] <kakalto> it's kinda sad to be in New Zealand..... we are highly likely to get the release on the 2nd... :'(
[10:05] <ompaul> 933
[10:05] <g-nome>  = cool character
[10:05] <zjimbo> ahww why can't the world just work on "zjimbo time"
[10:05] <Prof_Frink> philipacamaniac: It's 8:05 GMT, it's 9:05 UK time
[10:06] <McNutella> its 9:05 in scotland philipacamaniac
[10:06] <Skiddles^>
[10:06] <philipacamaniac> ah damn
[10:06] <joshhendo>
[10:06] <Seveas> @now London
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/London: June 01 2006, 09:06:13
[10:06] <bliss_> no its 9:05 in London
[10:06] <joshhendo>  COOL!
[10:06] <Healot> tsu huhuhu
[10:06] <Seveas> @now UTC
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 08:06:20
[10:06] <Auckland_Pig> kakalto: where you from?
[10:06] <JoseStefan> we should use binary time
[10:06] <dholbach> @now Sydney
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: June 01 2006, 18:06:25
[10:06] <reon> 10:06 in South Africa
[10:06] <philipacamaniac> well, its 1:06 am tucson time, so why am I not asleep?
[10:06] <kakalto> waiuku
[10:06] <dholbach> kakalto: I shouldn't think so :)
[10:06] <Xore> @now vancouver
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Vancouver: June 01 2006, 01:06:37
[10:06] <kakalto> Auckland_Pig: might as well be auckland :)
[10:06] <McNutella> youd think people dont know what time it is in their own room
[10:06] <La_PaRCa> @now de
[10:06] <Belutz> @now Jakarta
[10:06] <Xore> @now hawaii
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Jakarta: June 01 2006, 15:06:49
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in US/Hawaii: May 31 2006, 22:06:50
[10:06] <eobanb> enough about time zones
[10:06] <RancidLM> Damn see today is almost tomorrow for the australians!
[10:06] <Seveas> @lobotomy
[10:06] <neutrinomass> What determines what network interfaces show up in network-admin ?
[10:07] <ktogias> @now Athens
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Athens: June 01 2006, 11:07:04
[10:07] <guillem101> Hey! this is lasting much more I can stand for!
[10:07] <ThE-LiGhT> @now utc
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 08:07:14
[10:07] <eobanb> neutrinomass, perhaps what network cards you have in your computer
[10:07] <guillem101> @now Barcelona
[10:07] <McNutella> @now moon
[10:07] <dunnix> ok i just installed dapper   how do i find out if it work alright?
[10:07] <scheuri> STOP THAT
[10:07] <La_PaRCa> @now berlin
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: June 01 2006, 10:07:25
[10:07] <scheuri> arrrr
[10:07] <dunnix> seems to be doing fine
[10:07] <guillem101> @now BaMadrid
[10:07] <guillem101> @now Madrid
[10:07] <Seveas> stop playin with bots
[10:07] <McNutella> lol shilters
[10:07] <JoseStefan> leave the poor bot alone
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Madrid: June 01 2006, 10:07:35
[10:07] <Madpilot> Enough bot-poking...
[10:07] <bliss_> whats this chatting clock!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <neutrinomass> eobanb: As well as my modems. But  one of my modems doesn't show.
[10:07] <apikoros> can gparted resize reiserfs partitions?
[10:07] <La_PaRCa> Just wanted to see how many hours to the world cup games
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> enough stop bot-poking pokings :)
[10:08] <eobanb> neutrinomass, well it's probably a winmodem.
[10:08] <Xore> @now caprica
[10:08] <Xore> ?
[10:08] <McNutella> someone shouldnt have mentioned the time command then :)
[10:08] <neutrinomass> eobanb: It's not a winmodem, it's a USB adsl modem. It works fine, but it doesn't show there.
[10:08] <mcquaid> join #tapioca-voip
[10:08] <guillem101> Seveas, we need a channel for our impaciency
[10:08] <eobanb> neutrinomass, well, it's not perfect.
[10:08] <scheuri> McNutella: one should think that here are adults...:)
[10:08] <Xore> this is irc
[10:08] <eobanb> neutrinomass, wait, adsl?
[10:08] <Xore> nobody ever accused us of being adult
[10:08] <philipacamaniac> I'm hitting F5 on Ubuntu's website more than I ever did for a ThinkGeek fortune
[10:08] <Healot> PCI/USB modems are mostly winmodems/software modem, no real modem chipset, emulated and requires CPU power
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Haha
[10:09] <neutrinomass> eobanb: Yes, ATM.
[10:09] <McNutella> scheuri, just like christmas I guessl... tee hee *giggles* yey, wooo!
[10:09] <scheuri> Xore: sorry...how impolite of me...
[10:09] <neutrinomass> Healot: It's a DSL modem. It works fine !
[10:09] <eobanb> neutrinomass, when you say 'modem' we take that to mean '56k modem'
[10:09] <scheuri> McNutella: obvisouly
[10:09] <Healot> well... if you were talking about modem...
[10:09] <g-nome> will the torrent or the mirror be faster
[10:09] <Auckland_Pig> i did "update-manager -d" and am getting too many updates... how do i disable it?
[10:09] <scheuri> g-nome: depends when you download it
[10:10] <OffHand> torrent probably
[10:10] <Healot> that DSL modem is not really a modem, it;s like a bridge with NAT/DHCP/firewall feature in it
[10:10] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, newsflash, computers are complicated
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Anyway. Does anybody know where network-admin looks for network interfaces ?
[10:10] <Astinus-> what's the connection between CLOOP and SquashFS?
[10:10] <Healot> i don't recall what they call that DSL device
[10:10] <scheuri> g-nome: torrent might be much faster today and next few days
[10:10] <g-nome> can i downlaod it on mirror and seed it on torrent
[10:10] <g-nome> ?
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Healot: Probably. I'm not exactly sure ...
[10:10] <Auckland_Pig> eobanb: please tell how do i disable it?
[10:10] <scheuri> g-nome: you are invited to do so
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> this is almost as exciting as waiting for the 1-2-3-4-5-6 phenomenon:  $ date "+%T %D"
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> 01:02:03 04/05/06
[10:10] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, don't run it?
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> :-P
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Healot: At least on the manufacturers website (and everywhere I've seen it) it's referred to as an "adsl modem"
[10:11] <g-nome> scheuri: well the problem is how to seed it on the dapper tracker?
[10:11] <montbazin> I'v 3 machines connected to a Cisco ethernet rooter, is there a command to se the IP adresses of the other machines ?
[10:11] <Healot> neutrinomass: they just want to make the term to be easy
[10:11] <Kr0ntab> I actually saved the output.  wutta lamer.
[10:11] <Healot> marketing purposes
[10:11] <Auckland_Pig> eobanb: there's this icon in the system tray asking me to update... can i just ignore it/
[10:11] <scheuri> g-nome: I have no idea...never done it myself...:)
[10:11] <neutrinomass> Healot: Probably. I guess it doesn't modulate anything at all. Anyway, thanks :)
[10:11] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, if you want...i recommend you update, of course
[10:11] <disinterested_pe> well i upgraded and 6.06 is different
[10:11] <OffHand> montbazin, what if you do: ifconfig -a
[10:11] <scheuri> disinterested_pe: I hope it is
[10:11] <McNutella> good for you
[10:11] <eobanb> disinterested_pe, if it was the same, then why would you have upgraded
[10:11] <dunnix> beautiful beautiful   dapper
[10:11] <Auckland_Pig> eobanb: i only have limited bandwidth... and it downloads lots of packages daily
[10:12] <Healot> neutrinomass: it does modulates, but it doesn't require "dialing" >> this what modems suppose to do
[10:12] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, well get a CD from shipit then
[10:12] <philipacamaniac> Auckland_Pig:  it will do that until the final release
[10:12] <scheuri> Auckland_Pig: that will stop as of today...:)
[10:12] <Auckland_Pig> philipacamaniac: so i need not worry after today :)
[10:12] <khermans> Auto-Dapper-Torrentify on release: http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperTorrent
[10:12] <Auckland_Pig> scheuri: great
[10:12] <philipacamaniac> well, in less than 18 hours...
[10:12] <Auckland_Pig> :)
[10:12] <neutrinomass> Healot: Ahh, ok, thanks :) I'm not exactly sure how Adsl works, I have to read up on the subject .
[10:12] <scheuri> Auckland_Pig: I mean....you need to download ALL of them today and after today mostly only security updates occur
[10:13] <JoseStefan> what can i expect from the dapper-updates repository ?
[10:13] <montbazin> OffHand: ifconfig -a only shows the IPs on the machine I'm working at
[10:14] <khermans> JoseStefan, updates
[10:14] <OffHand> montbazin: netstat -a
[10:14] <khermans> Joetheodd, btw--its here -> http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperTorrent
[10:14] <JoseStefan> i mean, how big updates?
[10:14] <highvoltage> i think people are waiting for release to blog about it :)
[10:14] <Seveas> highvoltage, heh
[10:14] <khermans> JoseStefan, i mean it uses HEAD now
[10:14] <La_PaRCa> khermans, nice use of sed
[10:14] <liquidindian> Hello, I'm having a problem, and I don't know where to start trying to fix it.  I can't access the terminal, certain things in firefox don't work, synaptic and the update manager don't open...
[10:14] <Fujitsu> :O
[10:14] <khermans> La_PaRCa, you being facetious!!!
[10:14] <Fujitsu> A support request!
[10:14] <Auckland_Pig> i am pretty frustrated with Gaim release cycles... they should learn from ubuntu
[10:14] <mcmahons> liquidindian: are you running dapper
[10:14] <Fujitsu> What errors does it give, if any?
[10:15] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, agreed
[10:15] <liquidindian> mcmahons, yep
[10:15] <mcmahons> Auckland_Pig: gaim needs serious work
[10:15] <JoseStefan> khermans: you sure it's gonna page you
[10:15] <highvoltage> !dapper
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:15] <khermans> Joetheodd, lol why?
[10:15] <Viaken> liquidindian: I had that problem with the dapper beta a little earlier. It happened when I would resume from hibernate. Rebooting fixed it, and updating everything fixed it for good.
[10:15] <khermans> JoseStefan, yes it should
[10:15] <disinterested_pe> yeah it does mcmahons
[10:15] <blue25h> hi ya
[10:15] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig and mcmahons, hopefully adium will do for gaim what ubuntu has done for debian
[10:15] <mind> hello, i need some help regarding screen resolution in ubuntu. Who can i privmsg ?
[10:15] <highvoltage> 10:15 < highvoltage> !dapper
[10:15] <mcmahons> liquidindian: try updating later today see if that fixes everything
[10:15] <highvoltage> 10:15 < ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:15] <DarkTower> adium?
[10:15] <highvoltage> oops, sorry
[10:16] <eobanb> mind, you can just ask here.
[10:16] <Auckland_Pig> gaim can still keep releasing while working on it..... dont understand why it needs to be kept in beta sooo long
[10:16] <khermans> JoseStefan, I bet you $100 i'm say "TOLD YOU SO" within one minutes of the release -- and I'll probably be asleep!
[10:16] <Auckland_Pig> just like google
[10:16] <montbazin> OffHand: netstat doesnt work either, it show everything on my machine, thas all
[10:16] <liquidindian> mcmahons, I can't open the terminal, though, or synaptic.  Is there any other way of doing that?
[10:16] <JoseStefan> khermans: no worries, i believe you
[10:16] <blue25h> both my printers worked ok in suse but refuse to work on ubuntu lol
[10:17] <OffHand> montbazin, I'm sorry. Maybe someone else knows
[10:17] <Auckland_Pig> !adium
[10:17] <ubotu> Auckland_Pig: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:17] <onkarshinde> liquidindian: why can't you open terminal?
[10:17] <khermans> JoseStefan, im just messing around -- i should make the script post in here automatically with a notice though
[10:17] <linav> heard google got its own version of ubuntu with all google pkgs preinstalled
[10:17] <Auckland_Pig> !gaim
[10:17] <Viaken> liquidindian: ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to a virtual terminal, do what you need to, then restart gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[10:17] <ubotu> it has been said that gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[10:17] <linav> is it true
[10:17] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: what types of printers?
[10:17] <Viaken> liquidindian: Or ctrl-alt-f7 to switch back to X before restarting gdm.
[10:17] <montbazin> OffHand: thanx , have a nice day
[10:17] <mind> ok, so i've just installed ubuntu, everything seems to be working fine, except screen resolution. I can't set it higher than 1024 x 768, 60 hz. I qouldn't mind the low resolution per-say, but the 60 hz refresh rate is killing my eyes :>. My monitor can do 1600 x 1200 @ 85 hz, it's an LG f900B (19') flatron. Thanks
[10:17] <xukun> if I want to make a new folder on my usb stick then I get the message: "Error Read only File System"
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Seveas, < 16 hours!
[10:17] <_nano_> !dapper
[10:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:17] <linav> but thatz for just google employees, not for everyone
[10:17] <khermans> La_PaRCa, how would you clean uup my sed?
[10:17] <JoseStefan> khermans: that notice wont be necesary, i'm sure we will get 1000s
[10:17] <eobanb> mind, what graphics card do you have
[10:17] <Fujitsu> !dapper s/18/16/
[10:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[10:17] <khermans> lol
[10:17] <ompaul> Fujitsu, so he is right
[10:17] <blue25h> hp desk jet 5550 and samsung 1610
[10:17] <shriphani> gus i got a q
[10:17] <mind> Leadtek 6800GT
[10:17] <Fujitsu> ompaul, true.
[10:18] <ompaul> Fujitsu, ;-)
[10:18] <La_PaRCa> khermans, I wasnt making fun of it. I was commending you. sed is overlooked much these days.
[10:18] <eobanb> !tell mind about nvidia
[10:18] <Fujitsu> I haven't use ubotu in a while.
[10:18] <shriphani> how do i get ubuntu to ask me if i want to boot in gnome or console
[10:18] <dizz1> Again 18 Hours?
[10:18] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, Um, no.   I have a rar file that i created on a windows machine which i want to extract on ubuntu.  I think i will need the nonfree version of unrar as the archive is probably version 3.  i have tried adding the multiverse source and running an apt-get update.  I have then tried apt-get install unrar-nonfree but i keep getting an error
[10:18] <Auckland_Pig> shriphani: cant you do that on the login screen menu?
[10:18] <ompaul> dizz1, no less than
[10:18] <kevor> Wow, what happened to rhythmbox!!! it's actually perfect now :)
[10:18] <eobanb> shriphani, in gdm you can select text mode
[10:18] <JoseStefan> shriphani: search the wiki
[10:18] <khermans> matt_, aptitude install rar unrar
[10:18] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[10:19] <OffHand> my little pony
[10:19] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, Well, if I cant have a pony, can I at least have some dapper final ISOs?
[10:19] <blue25h> every thing else works fine but the prnters sighs
[10:19] <neutrinomass> matt_: The package name is 'unrar' IIRC
[10:19] <shriphani> i mean if i want to boot into console once and once in gnome how ?
[10:19] <Seveas> La_PaRCa, in a few hours
[10:19] <onkarshinde> I believe todays daily build ISO is not going to be changed anyway. So it is final. Am I wrong?
[10:19] <xukun> can I change the owner of my usb stick?
[10:19] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: notice HP desktjet 5550 uses the hpijs driver and is known to work
[10:19] <Xore> apt-get vs. aptitude. Comments, anyone? Alot of people i know say "use aptitude" but tutorials everywhere use apt-get
[10:19] <neutrinomass> s
[10:19] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: sighs?
[10:19] <JoseStefan> shriphani: you can switch from console to x, with ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 respectivly
[10:19] <neutrinomass> (sorry, hit enter accidentally )
[10:19] <matt_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[10:20] <kevor> khermans matt_ : also aptitude install unrar-nonfree
[10:20] <eobanb> Xore, i'd just try both and see what you like
[10:20] <scheuri> Xore: aptitude has a better "memory" of what has been installed and can uninstall unneeded and abandonned libs easier
[10:20] <blue25h> okies is looking ty
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Xore, aptitude is newer, and generally preferred.
[10:20] <matt_> what does aptitude do compared to apt-get?
[10:20] <matt_> oh okay
[10:20] <shriphani> hmm i mean cant it be done at boot time
[10:20] <neutrinomass> matt_ Are you sure you enabled multiverse/universe correctly ?
[10:20] <apikoros> does either the ubuntu livecd or install cd have reiserfs tools?
[10:20] <zjimbo> ne one tried Smart pkg man
[10:20] <Auckland_Pig> what version of gaim does dapper have?
[10:21] <matt_> well i think i did all line with multiverse at the end i uncommented in the sources.list
[10:21] <Fujitsu> zjimbo, syntax error.
[10:21] <Auckland_Pig> 1.5 or 2.0.0b3
[10:21] <Seveas> zjimbo, we speak english in here, not breezah/sms
[10:21] <onkarshinde> Auckland_Pig: 1.5.0
[10:21] <Auckland_Pig> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:21] <scheuri> matt: try a "aptitude search rar"
[10:21] <ompaul> !info gaim dapper
[10:21] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), Packaged size: 816 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[10:21] <Viaken> So how do we check for unneeded/abandoned libs?
[10:21] <P0ldy> Auckland_Pig, 1.5.1cvs
[10:21] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: per another comment on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters , try using the ML-1710 driver with your Samsung ML-1610
 if you want 2b install it yourself  :)
[10:21] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, just get the 2.0 DEB
[10:21] <RancidLM> what version of gnome is 6.06 coming with?
[10:21] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, like it or not, gaim 2.x is not ready for prime time.
[10:21] <ompaul> 2.14
[10:21] <Burgundavia> RancidLM: 2.14
[10:21] <Seveas> RancidLM, 2.14.1
[10:21] <Seveas> (.2 will be in the updates)
[10:22] <Hit3k> How do i enter a second wep key?
[10:22] <ompaul> the answer got better as it went along
[10:22] <shriphani> hello i need help
[10:22] <eobanb> shriphani, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Viaken: If you are using Synaptic then install deborphan package and after that you have to set a custom filter
[10:22] <cute_bettong> hi ompaul ^_^
[10:22] <ompaul> cute_bettong, 'lo
[10:22] <mind> eobanb, may i msg you please ?
[10:22] <Viaken> I'll look into it. Thanks, onkarshinde.
[10:22] <scheuri> Seveas: updates as in security updates?
[10:22] <shriphani> yeh i want to make ubuntu show me a choice of booting in console or gnome
[10:22] <eobanb> mind, if you like.
[10:23] <Seveas> scheuri, no, updates as in updates\
[10:23] <onkarshinde> Auckland_Pig: I am personally using Gaim2b3. My advice is don't give beta to friends who are new to linux.
[10:23] <scheuri> Seveas: ah okay...a special repository I presume
[10:23] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: what has changed in the beta
[10:23] <zjimbo> Ah, ok please accept my apologies im just so exited about this Smart Package Manager it, how do you say... shits on Suse's package manager, aka Yast2
[10:24] <Polibio> hallo
[10:24] <eobanb> welcome, Polibio
[10:24] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Lot of things. Accounts management, plugin management, preferences
[10:24] <matt_> scheuri: i have run the search and it foudn the unrar-nonfree now what i tried aptitude install unrar-nonfree and it says no candidate version found
[10:24] <RancidLM> will ubuntu have a yast console type utility?
[10:24] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: do you like it?
[10:24] <Fujitsu> zjimbo, apt-get is significantly better than anything RPM-based anyway!
[10:24] <eobanb> 'yast console type utility'??
[10:24] <La_PaRCa> ompaul, if they say dapper will "release june 1st" I can say this brush is a pony.
[10:24] <shriphani> guys please make it clear on how to boot in console or gnome at will
[10:25] <Viaken> RancidLM: Like apt?
[10:25] <scheuri> matt_: after doing the search...what letter is in front of unrar-nofree?
[10:25] <reon> Hmm, see the 6.06 iso's are available
[10:25] <zjimbo> can't you apt - at comand?
[10:25] <matt_> scheuri: v
[10:25] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[10:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:25] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, but somebody is wrong ;-)
[10:25] <Fujitsu> reon, read the topic please.
[10:25] <flowolf> hi all
[10:25] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Yes I do. But I was basically disappointed that no VV functionality is there.
[10:25] <Hit3k> How do i enter a second wep key?
[10:25] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: vv?
[10:25] <onkarshinde> @now utc
[10:25] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 08:25:37
[10:25] <La_PaRCa> ompaul, well, June 1st is almost over in auusiland, so there you go.
[10:25] <blue25h> when the next vertion of ubunto comes live will it up date or do you need to down load the cd ?
[10:25] <Polibio> has any of you the message: "10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24" in the shipit pages?
[10:25] <reon> Fujitsu, What about it ?
[10:25] <flowolf> dapper installer crashes on my pc
[10:25] <RancidLM> Viaken: na, u see yast basicly was a console based text gui control panel
[10:25] <flowolf> that's odd
[10:25] <scheuri> matt_: that means it is a virtual package, not really existing...this used if you may install severel packages which belong togehter in once or if the package actually does not exist...
[10:25] <ompaul> @now nz
[10:25] <Viaken> Ah ok
[10:25] <[Yatta] > excuse me... is it /etc/profile that i use to edit the system wide path???
[10:25] <Ubugtu> Current time in NZ: June 01 2006, 20:25:59
[10:26] <BadriNarayan> Polibio: I got that
[10:26] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, 4 hours in your neighbour
[10:26] <mcmahons> La_PaRCa: well theres still 5 1/2 hours to go. jeff said itll be there before bed.
[10:26] <Fujitsu> reon, Dapper has /not/ been released yet.
[10:26] <Seveas> Polibio, the *order* was sent to the shipping company
[10:26] <scheuri> matt_: sorry, cant spell anymore...
[10:26] <shriphani> people how do i make ubuntu give me a choice of booting in console or in gnome at startup
[10:26] <Mithrandir> [Yatta] : no, /etc/environment
[10:26] <Fujitsu> Seveas, it is ambiguous.
[10:26] <flowolf> can it be a problem with xfs as / partition?
[10:26] <Seveas> Fujitsu, indeed
[10:26] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Voice And Video. There was a seperate fork of Gaim that had implemented it. Plans are to integrate in Gaim. I thought it would be Gaim2. Also I expected at least GTalk VoIP in Gaim2
[10:26] <[Yatta] > ohhhhhh thanks.. that explain why my stuff wasn't working
[10:26] <Fujitsu> `# CDs approved and sent to shipping company' implies the CDs have been sent.
[10:26] <matt_> scheuri: so there is no way to extract my rar file on my ubuntu box?
[10:26] <reon> Fujitsu, Well it seems to be on the servers regardless what the topic says. Unless I've got the cat by the tail.
[10:26] <Auckland_Pig> shriphani: you should be able to do that from the GDM login screen
[10:26] <eobanb> reon, if you read the topic, you would see that dapper is not out yet.  and since it's not out yet, ISOs are not yet available.  understand?
[10:26] <Seveas> flowolf, xfs as / is always probelematic if you don't have a separate /boot
[10:26] <Polibio> Seveas, "10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24"  the CDs, not the order", have you a similar phrase?
[10:27] <shriphani> ok so i type startx ?
[10:27] <Viaken> shriphani: Would involve changing the default runlevel by editing your /etc/grub.conf (or would it be /boot/grub.conf?). I don't know beyond that.
[10:27] <Auckland_Pig> shriphani: you can try "alt + F1"
[10:27] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: ok, doess that stuff work in ekiga?
[10:27] <highvoltage> shriphani: you cna edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[10:27] <shriphani> ok
[10:27] <scheuri> matt_: I actually wonder why this package is not available...gimme a sec...I will check
[10:27] <La_PaRCa> Whats the name of the package on dapper to install the whole LAMP stack?
[10:27] <highvoltage> shriphani: and make it boot to a runlevel that doesn't start gdm
[10:27] <mind>  in the tutorial it says that "If you are running Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger, then install nvidia-settings. DO NOT install nvidia-settings in Dapper Drake because it will remove nvidia-glx". how i know what i'm running ? :)
[10:27] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Haven't tried Ekiga. I am still on Breezy
[10:27] <reon> eobanb, I CAN read. All I said is that the iso's are available, you don't have to believe me.
[10:27] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: oh ok cool :)
[10:27] <[Yatta] > Mithrandir,  i only see 2 lines in that thing?
[10:27] <Polibio> BadriNarayan, but you are sure you asked for the Dapper, not Breeze?
[10:27] <Seveas> mind, lsb_release -a
[10:27] <highvoltage> mind: click on system -> about ubuntu
[10:28] <Major_Delta> t
[10:28] <xukun> What  ever I do I get the error that I can write on my usb stick becouse I dont have permission to write and its read only
[10:28] <khermans> La_PaRCa, good question!
[10:28] <BadriNarayan> Polibio: Yes. And Seveas' answer pertains to Dapper
[10:28] <scheuri> matt_: are you using dapper??
[10:28] <onkarshinde> xukun: Did you manually mount it? Or did it get automatically mounted?
[10:28] <reon> Fujitsu, the iso's are available though. ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[10:28] <[Yatta] > i wan tto add /usr/local/src/mythtv to my path .. I put it in /etc/profile but that doens't seem to work??
[10:28] <matt_> scheuri: no breezy
[10:29] <scheuri> matt_: okay...just another sec...
[10:29] <Auckland_Pig> will my hard disk life reduce if i keep my ubuntu switched on 24/7?
[10:29] <Fujitsu> reon, nobody said they were the final, official ones.
[10:29] <Polibio> ok, BadriNarayan, I was afraid they had sent the Dapper CD's
[10:29] <onkarshinde> Auckland_Pig: That depends on hard disk and not on OS
[10:29] <mind> sorry for the copy/paste, this is what i get "mind@dyn-85:~$ lsb_release -a
[10:29] <mind> LSB Version:    n/a
[10:29] <mind> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:29] <mind> Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[10:29] <mind> Release:        5.10
[10:29] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, of course -- but who cares?
[10:29] <mind> Codename:       breezy
[10:29] <mind> "
[10:29] <blue25h> how do you quit this thing ? giggles
[10:29] <[Yatta] > can i just dit-upgrade to upgrade my Dapper FLight 7 to the final?
[10:29] <scheuri> matt_: try "aptitude install unrar-free unrar-nonfree"
[10:29] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, i've run Ubuntu since Warty -- kept my comp up all the time
[10:29] <Prof_Frink> [Yatta] : Yep
[10:29] <croppa> I am running Ubuntu Dapper and have a divco hdtv-t card. I have installed v4l-dvb-7bb558ec2684 and the picture is perfect however there is no sound. The sound works when a dvd is played.I am using xine.Where should I look to rectify my problem.
[10:30] <[Yatta] > no other clue on the path thing?
[10:30] <MonsieurBon> does anyone know more about the release hour of dapper?
[10:30] <La_PaRCa> !dapper
[10:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:30] <joshhendo> nope
[10:30] <MonsieurBon> I can't wait any longer! :)
[10:31] <Linuturk> they are toying with us
[10:31] <scheuri> MonsieurBon: then we apologize for your pain
[10:31] <reon> Fujitsu, true but it does not look like they are changing either.
[10:31] <matt_> scheuri: same error, i have managed to install a version of unrar, i think it was the free one, but it wont work with my rar file i think from what i read because the file is version 3
[10:31] <onkarshinde> MonsieurBon: Download latest CD image. I think It won't change.
[10:31] <Auckland_Pig> khermans: i'm just a bit anxious that something might happen to my hard disk. because i've kept mine on for nearly 2 months... with just 3 reboots.....
[10:31] <Fujitsu> It may not change.
[10:31] <Auckland_Pig> !harddisk
[10:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Auckland_Pig
[10:31] <Fujitsu> But it may.
[10:31] <philipacamaniac> MonsieurBon: and it comes with a free pony
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> erm, chances are they are just setting up many mirrors, otherwise if one mirror releases it and everyone tries to download it the mirror alone wont cope
[10:31] <pseudodeadkitty> MonsieurBon: how do you think I feel? I was up at 9AM PST waiting for it, and it's now 1:31AM PST now.
[10:31] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: Then there is always jigdo
[10:31] <ThE-LiGhT> !pony
[10:31] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, well i routinely keep mine up for months too
[10:31] <ubotu> ThE-LiGhT: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:32] <ThE-LiGhT> what is "!PONY" ?