[10:24] <Kajover> hi, is ubuntu 13.04 already out on the ftp server?
[10:24] <Atlantic777> Kajover: join #ubuntu-release-party
[10:24] <DJones> Kajover: No, its not
[10:24] <Kajover> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ <- because it looks like it is
[10:25] <DrGrov> I am having a problem, running Ubuntu 12.04 and my computer won't turn on at all. Just flashing a red light upon startup and no BIOS screen. What can I do?
[10:25] <k1l_> Kajover: no its not out yet
[10:25] <k1l_> Kajover: wait in #ubuntu-release-party for the official announce
[10:25] <k1l_> Kajover: and refuse to paste links, thanks
[10:25] <belgianguy> DrGrov: make Ubuntu LiveCD/LiveUSB, boot from it, Backup everything you need, then start fixing
[10:25] <Kajover> ah ok
[10:26] <belgianguy> MissValeska: anything that might have caused that faillure?
[10:27] <MissValeska> I don't remember, It happened months ago.
[10:27] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Well I can not even access my CD/DVD, it does not boot up from them either.
[10:28] <MissValeska> Though
[10:28] <MissValeska> I ALWAYS have problems on this computer
[10:28] <MissValeska> I install Ubuntu, And, I think it is gaurenteed now
[10:28] <BlackDalek> Help!!! HOW do I copy files to a bootable FreeDOS USB stick created using unetbootin???? I need to copy the files to it so that they show up once the PC is booted from USB???
[10:28] <MissValeska> It will, Eventually, Have a problem which makes it unusable
[10:29] <cfhowlett> !persistence|BlackDalek
[10:29] <vekexasia> hello how can i force a package to be installed withouth checking its dependencies?
[10:29] <DrGrov> I did not install any updates. It just won't start, what can I do about the BIOS when it does not boot up at all? Just has a blinking red light shown and nothing happens.
[10:30] <belgianguy> DrGrov: that seems odd, if you can't get into the BIOS, you have hardware problems, I'm afraid
[10:31] <belgianguy> DrGrov: do you see anything appear on screen?
[10:31] <DrGrov> belgianguy: No, I do not see anything appearing on screen. Should I remove all cables etc. and wait and try again?
[10:31] <belgianguy> DrGrov: is this an old computer?
[10:32] <DrGrov> belgianguy: No, not particularly old. It is a server machine, a HP xw9300 Workstation.
[10:32] <belgianguy> DrGrov: does it beep or flash a led in certain sequence?
[10:32] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, I do not understand what is meant by 'persistent file storage'
[10:33] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, you wanted storage of files on your usb, i.e. persistent storage
[10:33] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Yes, it flashes a led in red color upon startup in a sequence it seems. It flashes it like something is stuck. A few seconds and stops and starts again.
[10:33] <belgianguy> DrGrov: try looking online for what that sequence means
[10:34] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Okay, I will look. Thanks.
[10:34] <belgianguy> DrGrov: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=459226&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c00300335
[10:34] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Thanks :)
[10:34] <izx> I want to view all the packages which is installed after installation of OS excluding its dependencies.. How do i list it??
[10:35] <cfhowlett> izx, dpkg -l
[10:35] <ejv> dpkg --get-selections
[10:36] <cfhowlett> ejv, even better.  thanks for correction
[10:36] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Okay, I got it. It is processor thermal protection activated. Ok, then I gotta figure that one out.
[10:36] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, ok.. but I don't have a linux USB live CD.. it's a FreeDOS USB - so is that page even relevant?
[10:36] <DrGrov> belgianguy: It was going really warm last night, had it running for a long time.
[10:37] <ejv> cfhowlett: ;)
[10:37] <ejv> cfhowlett: I believe -l takes an additional argument/parameter to function
[10:37] <izx> ejv: Both the command lists all packages, i just want to view the additional packages which is installed after the default installation..
[10:37] <izx> like samba shutter ubuntu-restricted etc..
[10:38] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, error ... I don't know.  Silly me, assumed the process was the same.  best check with freedos
[10:38] <bvi> any clue when 13.04 will hit the servers ?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> bvi, soon.
[10:38] <DJones> !party | bvi
[10:38] <zvacet> izx: I don´t know how t odo it without list of packages installed by default
[10:38] <ejv> izx: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install \"
[10:38] <bvi> vool :-)
[10:38] <ejv> izx: analyze timestamps
[10:39] <zvacet> izx:if you can get that list it will be easy just diff
[10:39] <BlackDalek> someone told me copying the files to /cdrom directory would copy to my FreeDOS USB stick, but that turned out to be bollocks.
[10:39] <cfhowlett> izx, see http://cpuug.org/index.php?topic=219.0
[10:40] <MadsRC> Hi Guys, need some help. I recently got a USB recovery usb from HP, and after I'm done using it I want to see if it can be formated and used as a usb pen. Problem is that the usb pen is recognized as a CDrom drive in both windows and Linux... Do youk now any way to format it? I've tried fdisk and dd, both saying that it is read only :(
[10:40] <ejv> izx: sry *installed*
[10:40] <ejv> not install
[10:41] <ejv> izx: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ installed \"
[10:41] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Is there anything I can do for that issue? If it is then the power supply having a power failure... Can that somehow be fixed just by waiting and letting it cool down?
[10:44] <belgianguy> DrGrov: I'd replace it if I were you, or was this machine opened recently?
[10:44] <belgianguy> if not opened recently, I'd say replace the PSU
[10:45] <DrGrov> belgianguy: How you mean opened recently?
[10:45] <DrGrov> belgianguy: I cleaned it a few weeks ago, removing most of the dust inside.
[10:46] <belgianguy> DrGrov: do you have another workstation like that?
[10:47] <DrGrov> belgianguy: No, just that one.
[10:48] <knightshade> DrGrov: have you added any new hardware recently? if so, the power supply could be to weak
[10:49] <knightshade> *too
[10:49] <ggherdov> Hi all. why my ubuntu 12.10 update-manager isn't proposing me the update to 13.04 yet ?
[10:49] <k1l_> ggherdov: its not out yet
[10:49] <ggherdov> k1l_: ok
[10:49] <DrGrov> knightshade: No, I have not actually added anything. Good point to remind me.
[10:49] <DrGrov> knightshade: What can I actually do while it is overloaded? Does something help at all?
[10:50] <Leighton> Just in case anyone was looking for 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[10:50] <belgianguy> DrGrov: most likely something physically broke in the PSU, and it can only fixed by replacing it AFAIK
[10:50] <belgianguy> unless it has a fuse of some sort
[10:50] <belgianguy> but I doubt it
[10:50] <k1l_> Leighton: dont post urls untill the official release
[10:51] <Leighton> k1l_: oh, sorry
[10:51] <DrGrov> belgianguy: But how would something break and just worked perfectly well 6 hours ago?
[10:52] <jose-gregorio> hi
[10:52] <varikonniemi> so are the 13.04 isos final, and only the announcement is missing?
[10:52] <DJones> varikonniemi: Its not been announced yet, so assume not
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  any moment now
[10:52] <varikonniemi> http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[10:52] <varikonniemi> looks final to me
[10:52] <belgianguy> DrGrov: things break...
[10:52] <k1l_> varikonniemi: just qait for the announcment in #ubuntu-release-party
[10:53] <varikonniemi> ok
[10:53] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Well yes, they do =)
[10:53] <DrGrov> belgianguy: I will clean it out again and unplug it and leave it for a bit to see what happens.
[10:53] <jose-gregorio> hi guys
[10:53] <belgianguy> DrGrov: I'd say try with another PSU, but that might break more
[10:53] <belgianguy> (they need to have the same output at least)
[10:54] <belgianguy> DrGrov: good luck
[10:54] <aadd> hi I was trying to download realtek linux drivers and I couldn't reach the download server
[10:54] <aadd> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722
[10:54] <aadd> is it working for anyone else?
[10:54] <FloodBot1> aadd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <DrGrov> belgianguy: Thank you.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> aadd, works for me
[10:54] <jose-gregorio> how install warcraft 3?
[10:54] <aadd> were you able to download the file?
[10:55] <jose-gregorio> yes
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> !who | aadd
[10:56] <aadd> ubottu, I'm new to IRC. Thanks for the tip
[10:57] <aadd> cfhowlett, were you able to download the files under RTL8188CE?
[10:59] <moppers> ok so i see rarign ISOs are up. does it work?
[10:59] <moppers> should i wait for the first patch or go now?
[10:59] <aadd> Is anyone able to download the Linux drivers from http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722 for    RTL8188CE?
[10:59] <starbuck> hi, why are there 2 personal address books in thunderbird by fefault?
[10:59] <k1l_> moppers: at least you should wait for th official announcment
[11:00] <k1l_> aadd: that is better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic since its not a ubuntu problem
[11:00] <apm1> !isitoutyet
[11:00] <moppers> aadd, successfully downloading but slow
[11:01] <moppers> aadd, i clicked all 6 mirrors though and cancelled the others after 1 started
[11:01] <aadd> The server refuses the connection everytime I try to download it
[11:01] <moppers> aadd, i am currently in UK if that makes a difference
[11:01] <cfhowlett> aadd, it's not out yet!
[11:01] <aadd> moppers, is there anyone you can send it to me?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> aadd, never mind, wrong thread.
[11:01] <apm1> lol
[11:02] <cfhowlett> aadd, I could see it but did not attempt download
[11:02] <moppers> aadd, i will pm you link i am downloading from, and when it arrives, a dropbox link to the file
[11:02] <k1l_> aadd: last time now. downloading site problems are no ubuntu problems
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !cookie|moppers,
[11:02] <aadd> moppers, that would be great. Thank you :)
[11:02] <apm1> !cookie|apm1
[11:02] <Eeeeeeeeeeetan_> ふぁっきゅー
[11:02] <sliddjur> im running ubuntu 13.04 on virtualbox. it idles at 70% cpu. host os is win7. i have a winxp guest that use 3-5% idle cpu. how can I improve this?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> !jp
[11:03] <Wusel_> is it possible to restrict a user from creating subdirectorys? creating files should still be possible
[11:03] <apm1> i got a cookie anyway XD
[11:03] <aadd> ubottu, how do I see private messages?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> sliddjur, well for one, wait for then install the final release
[11:04] <apm1> lol
[11:04] <sliddjur> cfhowlett: ubuntu 12.10 is the same :s
[11:05] <moppers> the final release ISOs are up
[11:06] <apm1> !isitout
[11:06] <apm1> moppers, lier
[11:06] <cfhowlett> moppers, nope.  waiting official announcement
[11:07] <apm1> torrents will be as fast as the direct links will be slow
[11:08] <lars_t_h> cfhowlett, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/release/ - "release" means the final release, true?
[11:09] <habanany> hi guys , can anybody tell me if this is the right link to download ubuntu for usb  raring-desktop-armhf+omap4.img       24-Apr-2013 18:27  663M  Desktop image for Texas Instruments OMAP4 (Hard-Float) computers (USB image)
[11:09] <Myrtti> it's not out until the official announcement is done.
[11:09] <DJones> lars_t_h: Its not announced yet, there can still be changes
[11:10] <habanany> i have always used this one PC (Intel x86) desktop image For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[11:10] <lars_t_h> DJones, ok but a lot of date+time stamps say 25-Apr-2013 10:35
[11:11] <cfhowlett> lars_t_h, when it's announced ... it's official.  till then ...
[11:11] <minas_> if your pc is 32bit, download the x86 version, regardless of CPU type. if it is 6
[11:12] <habanany> forgot to mention , im interested in the daily buid
[11:12] <Dr_willis> !arm
[11:12] <moppers> so the iso here is not the final one? http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ ... also do-release-uprade is now working for me without -d ? is it out or not?
[11:12] <aadd> I need help! I'm not able to download the RTL8188CE drivers for linux from the Realtek server. Can someone help me download it?
[11:13] <Dr_willis> moppers,  untill its officially released this channel will tell you to 'wait'
[11:14] <linusoleander> Anyone know how to use monit to monitor postfix?
[11:15] <aadd> I need help! I'm not able to download the RTL8188CE drivers for linux from the Realtek server. Can someone help me download it?
[11:15] <aadd> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722
[11:15] <ketan985> How much time is remaining  in Ubuntu 13.04 launching ?
[11:16] <k1l_> aadd: last warning now: this is not the right channel for downloadin problems. so ask in offtopic
[11:16] <DJones> ketan985: Could be hours yet, join #ubuntu-release-party for discussion & partying though
[11:16] <aadd> Alright
[11:16] <ketan985> ok Thanks
[11:16] <raven_> rsync: how to backup to a remotehost via ssh with custom sshport?
[11:17] <BlackDalek> what is the EASIEST way for an Ubuntu machine to run a BIOS flash utility which has been made to run under DOS?
[11:17] <k1l_> raven_: ssh -p or -P
[11:17] <lnxslck> BlackDalek, put the bios on a cdrom and boot from it
[11:18] <k1l_> (and then the port number)
[11:18] <Dr_willis> BlackDalek,  a freedos live cd - if it must run from dos.
[11:18] <raven_> k1l_, what is the full syntax?
[11:18] <k1l_> raven_: what full syntax?
[11:19] <lars_t_h> DJones, thx for telling about #ubuntu-release-party
[11:19] <raven_> k1l_, where to put in the ssh command, how to set the dirs and so on
[11:19] <BlackDalek> Dr_willis, I am currently struggling with trying to get the BIOS Flash utility onto the FreeDOS USB stick... it seems to be impossible...
[11:19] <raven_> k1l_, the full rsync command
[11:20] <KyeRussell> back
[11:20] <ANub> raven_: you can try rsync.......its much more versatile for data backup
[11:20] <gazzwi86> So I'm trying to install something but Im not sure what the process should be: https://github.com/lastfm/Fingerprinter
[11:21] <gazzwi86> I presumed apt-get should install the libraries required, but no luck there.
[11:21] <alexandros_c> has anyone upgraded from 12.10 13.04/
[11:21] <k1l_> raven_: rsync -some_operators_here_with_-e_for_ssh ssh -p 123456 /path/to/dir user@example.com:/path/to/dir
[11:21] <fidel> !anyone
[11:21] <k1l_> alexandros_c: its not  released yet. and general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:22] <alexandros_c> thanks kill
[11:23] <cfhowlett> vibhav, https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu5ggqu2fges797/GrumpyCow.jpg
[11:27] <ubu> hello
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> howdy
[11:27] <cfhowlett> ubu, greetings
[11:28] <apm1> from planet earth
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  no, it's not out yet ;)
[11:28] <apm1> !isitoutyet
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: oh lordy
[11:28] <apm1> ActionParsnip, syntax error
[11:29] <apm1> it goes like "oh Lawdy lawd"
[11:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:29] <ubu> i'm having an issue with CIFS, it used to just work but now my machine gets stuck booting up and never completes the boot process cause it's stuck on a CIFS VFS error -101
[11:30] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: now look what you've done :p
[11:30] <ywrmn> what's the "R" release today?
[11:30] <anew> when you set a crontab, is it set from the moment you make it? like if i set it every 12 hours, is it every 12 hours from the moment i save or is it set to some internal clock
[11:30] <ywrmn> Runty Rabbit?
[11:31] <k1l_> apm1: please stop that release topic in here. we have #ubuntu-release-party for that
[11:31] <apm1> k11_ sorry
[11:31] <k1l_> ywrmn: raring ringtail is its name
[11:31] <ywrmn> rar, as in the file format?
[11:32] <apm1> ranty rabbit
[11:32] <apm1> lmao
[11:32] <cfhowlett> next up: slitherin serpent
[11:33] <meerkat> huh. so the next release is SS?
[11:33] <hangman5950> any one able to take some time to help me w a networking issue on my ubunt
[11:33] <Raha> sb help me
[11:33] <Dr_willis> cfhowlett,  soapy slug
[11:33] <Raha> i want to setip kali on vmware
[11:33] <Raha> and the file is gz
[11:33] <Raha> the vm didnt know that
[11:33] <Dr_willis> Raha,  and whats Kali?
[11:34] <iorweth_> 13.04 release delayed?
[11:34] <hangman5950> need help!!!!!!!!!!
[11:34] <Raha> KALI is ke a distributed
[11:34] <senthil_> hi i need help on vim.. i am new to irc
[11:34] <cfhowlett> iorweth_, it'll be released 04/25/13 ...
[11:34] <hangman5950> vm ubuntu help please
[11:34] <Dr_willis> Raha,  you chould be in whatever Channel does Kali Support. since its not an official ubuntu variant. so not supported here.
[11:34] <iorweth_> wich is today cfhowlett
[11:34] <Dr_willis> iorweth_,  it will be out when its out.
[11:34] <belgianguy> urff, I'm going to do the sane things and get stuff done
[11:34] <meerkat> what happens for release 17.10?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> iorweth_, until midnight so be patient
[11:35] <IdleOne> !party
[11:35] <hangman5950> 12.04 ubuntu on vm help please
[11:35] <olegb> !ask
[11:35] <Dr_willis> hangman5950,  you should state the actual problem
[11:35] <Raha> i know that but i didnt find the channel
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what are you using to virtualise as well please
[11:36] <meerkat> 17.04 is zz, does it start over on AA?
[11:36] <k1l_> meerkat: that is offtopic in here
[11:37] <meerkat> how so?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> Raha,  check its web site to see if it even has a channel or forums
[11:37] <hangman5950> ok I installed ubuntu on my VM and I try to access the server for my files thru it but when I click it says it needs a password and their isnt one on my server so i hit continue and nothing tried also admin-password and admin-admin but no luck
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> meerkat: this is people with system issues
[11:37] <k1l_> meerkat: this is a technical support channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what service are you using to share files?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what are you using to virtualize?
[11:38] <hangman5950> oraclebox and its my server on my network to keep up the site and hold my work files
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: ok, virtualbox ;)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what are you using to share files wth? samba? sftp? ftp?
[11:39] <hangman5950> yup
[11:39] <hangman5950> ftp
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: what have you used to connect to the FTP service?
[11:39] <hangman5950> all i want is to log on to it.
[11:40] <hangman5950> an ethernet cable from my office to the server
[11:40] <olegb> hangman5950: have you created a user for the login ?
[11:40] <Raha> need helpppppppp
[11:41] <hangman5950> no its just my name and the workgroup. I am connected thru wwindows
[11:41] <Raha> perl or python for be a good sysadmin?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Raha,  yes to both
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: no, what client application on the windows side>
[11:42] <k1l_> !away > derWachert
[11:42] <hangman5950> idk man I just open my computer click network and their it is in windows but not in network it will let me see the network but let me onto the server
[11:42] <olegb> hangman5950: you need a user to login (or setup anonymous access)
[11:43] <Raha> at last i  will learn both but know for the firt which one
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: try filezilla under Windows
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: or even Firefox, handles it well
[11:43] <Dr_willis> Raha,  if you have totally zero programing experience.. start with python
[11:43] <Raha> DR_willis i found that its #kali
[11:44] <anew> when you set a crontab, is it set from the moment you make it? like if i set it every 12 hours, is it every 12 hours from the moment i save or is it set to some internal clock
[11:44] <hangman5950> but how? I am new to ubuntu I didnt connect to a network last time i had this installed on my laptop
[11:45] <Raha> i didnt really programming pro, but k know all concepts
[11:45] <jrib> anew: internal clock
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: install filezila and connect to the IP you have on the virtual system
[11:46] <anew> jrib so when i set it for every 6 hours, it's every 6 hours sstarting from what time ?
[11:46] <jrib> anew: no.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: if you set the network as bridged rather than NAT, it will take an IP from your router and seem like another PC attached to your LAN
[11:46] <hangman5950> when I install on VM shoul i use Virtual disc image, virtual machine disk, or virtual hard disk
[11:46] <Raha> i think it's better to learn python first, but there is a lot of scrips in liux by perl so i am confuse to choose
[11:46] <anew> no ?
[11:47] <jrib> anew: I'm not sure what you want me to say.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: surely this si already done
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: if you are unsure, the defaults are fine
[11:47] <hangman5950> yeah but I want to make sure I chose corectly
[11:47] <anew> jrib no what ... if i set it for every 6 hours, it's every 6 hours starting from what time
[11:47] <hangman5950> well whats the differnece in them
[11:48] <jrib> anew: you gave two alternatives.  1) it's from the moment you set it or 2) it's internal time (which is ambiguous but presumably, is not the same as 1.  I said it was (2) and you asked me if it was (1).  Here, maybe the man page clears it up for you: Commands  are  executed by cron(8) when the minute, hour, and month of year fields match the current time, and when at least one of  the  two day  fields (day of
[11:48] <jrib> month, or day of week) match the current time
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Raha,  flip a coin.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hangman5950: try filezilla as a client to the FTP server, it is free
[11:49] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Raha: learn one, then the other,
[11:49] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[11:49] <jrib> anew: do you understand?
[11:49] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[11:50] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[11:50] <Raha> perl is more easy yes?? it takes a long time to finish python and go to perl!
[11:50] <jrib> anew: when you say something like every two hours (*/2), that just gets translated to 0,2,4,6,...,22
[11:50] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:50] <anew> yes but my second question is not yes or no.  if i set it for every x hours or every 30 minutes... .it's every 30 minutes starting frmo what time
[11:50] <Dr_willis> cristian_c,  check out airdroid and you will never want to mess with bluetooth
[11:50] <anew> right now it's 1400, if i set a crontab for every 2 hours, when will it run
[11:50] <sixbb> is there a channel for mirror operators?
[11:50] <jrib> anew: see my last reply
[11:51] <cristian_c> Dr_willis, but I have not to connect through internet
[11:51] <anew> no i mean .... i must be asking this weird
[11:51] <cristian_c> Dr_willis, but locally
[11:51] <Dr_willis> cristian_c,  no local router for both to connect to? shame.
[11:51] <anew> jrib if i set it for every 12 hours, when will the first crontab run.  12 hours from the exact moment i hit save or 12 hours from .... (fill in the blank if you know)
[11:51] <Dr_willis> anew,  it dosent care when you 'save'
[11:51] <jrib> anew: do you understand when it would run if you set the hour field to "0,2,4,6,...,22" (with the ... appropriately filled in)?
[11:52] <anew> yes but what determines what is an hour !
[11:52] <moppers> the system clock
[11:52] <jrib> anew: can you answer my last question?  I'm not sure where you are confused
[11:52] <starbuck33> hey, anybody having trouble seeing the facebook contacts in pidgin?
[11:53] <torch1> it's not every 12 hours. It's at 12 o,clock
[11:53] <Draxelis> anyone use NOD32?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: have you tried renaming the pidgin profile folder after closing the app completely and setting up a new profile (just to test)
[11:53] <anew> torch1 so if i set it for every 3 hours, it's not every 3 hours... it's at 12,3, 6 etc
[11:54] <anew> with those numbers being the time on the server
[11:54] <Dr_willis> 24 hrs /3 => ever X oclock
[11:54] <Dr_willis> every X Oclock
[11:54] <anew> so if i save the crontab at 11:59 and make it for every hour, the crontab will run in one minute ?
[11:54] <shape> ZOMG: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[11:54] <jrib> anew: yes (for the third time)
[11:54] <Dr_willis> anew,  possibily
[11:54] <anew> possibly or yes ....
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shape: #ubuntu+1 for anything raring please
[11:54] <torch1> sorry, missed the first part where you said /12
[11:55] <Dr_willis> the time dosent matter.. cron is not acurate to the 'second' either.. i recall it has a bit of a leeway
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> shape: it will also be EOL before Quantal, so I wouldn't get massively excited
[11:55] <anew> ok so cron is not being run in x hours, it's actually being run by server time which is the fields ur setting
[11:55] <anew> i get it now thx
[11:55] <starbuck33> ActionParsnip: nope, but i tried to remove tha account and made a new one.... the thing is, if i show ofline buddies it shows all the fb contacts, and some of them are online... but it doesnt't show the online fb buddies when when the "show offline contacts" option is not activated in pidgin
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: not a new account, a new profile folder for all of Pidgin. There is a difference
[11:57] <starbuck33> ok, i try that
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: close pidgin and run:   mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old
[11:57] <__mike> hi guys
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> starbuck33: then launch pidgin
[11:58] <TuxVarmari> Who pinged me
[11:58] <starbuck33> ActionParsnip: ok, i'm onto it
[11:58] <TuxVarmari> Because I'm gonna hunt you down
[11:58] <TuxVarmari> oh. netsplit. makes sense.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> TuxVarmari: not hard, the channel is logged...
[11:58] <__mike> can i ask a question?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> __mike: as long as its ubuntu support based, yes :)
[11:59] <shape> !ask | mike
[12:00] <Raha> i started linux 3 months ago
[12:00] <Raha> i have LPIC-1 Certificate now
[12:00] <Raha> but i have no experience in linux
[12:00] <Raha> how can i improve my exp..
[12:01] <Dr_willis> makes us wonder what you hve been doing for 3 months
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Raha: use the OS
[12:01] <Raha> :)
[12:01] <k1l_> Raha: just use a linux. and since you ask in #ubuntu use ubuntu
[12:01] <Raha> i am using os
[12:01] <defekt> Raha: that your certificate and burn it
[12:02] <k1l_> Raha: and for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <Raha> my desk top is ubuntu don worry
[12:02] <defekt> !botsnack
[12:03] <Raha> but i want to be a system administrator
[12:03] <MadMurkaa> I believe this link here describes both the problem I'm experience, and also the solution that I need. However I don't understand how to apply the solution. Can anybody help please? http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0501/1538.html
[12:03] <k1l_> !ot | Raha
[12:04] <anew> check if a cron is running is: ps aux | grep cron
[12:04] <anew> ?
[12:04] <__mike> where can I find backtrack irc channel?
[12:04] <DJones> !backtrack | __mike
[12:04] <Raha> ubottu  .. your last sentece  means  stop asking here?
[12:04] <Raha> :(
[12:04] <__mike> thx
[12:04] <__mike> !backtrack
[12:05] <joeytwid1le_> anew: there is also pgrep for scripts
[12:05] <syntroPi> When will be the release of Raring Ringtail?
[12:05] <joeytwid1le_> Raha: install some services, administer them a bit :)
[12:05] <syntroPi> Wikipedia states its today?
[12:05] <DJones> !party | syntroPi
[12:06] <Raha> joeytwid1le: yes i want to make a list  of services for network and  run them
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> syntroPi  if wikipedia says it, then it *must* be true
[12:08] <Dr_willis> *citation needed*
[12:08] <ubu> ok, i just made my fstab have noauto for the smb shares and then i added mount /media/foo and mount /media/foo1 to my rc.local file. all is well again
[12:08] <joeytwid1le_> MadMurkaa: if you want to write to that folder, you will need to set the user/group to postfix:postdrop instead of 12345:54321  I don't know where you set those silly numbers, but you could try: grep 54321 /etc/ -r
[12:08] <syntroPi> MonkeyDust, hahaha approximately most of the time: YES
[12:09] <syntroPi> YAY speaking of: it just was released !!!
[12:09] <whitewolf_> Hi there , I need help with smthng related to torrents anyone pls pm me.
[12:09] <syntroPi> the moment we are speaking...
[12:09] <Dr_willis> Not untill the ops in here say so syntroPi
[12:10] <syntroPi> look at the website
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> the ubuntu homepage has changed to rating, ok
[12:10] <Dr_willis> dosent matter...... wait for it...
[12:10] <jrib> anew: what do you want to do?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> raring*
[12:10] <nugroho> WHA420355,SOC155694,YMH297433,WHA800477
[12:10] <anew> jrib i want to just check if my cron is running or not
[12:10] <jrib> anew: you want to check if the cron daemon is running?
[12:10] <anew> no, my specific script
[12:11] <GreenTuxer> 13.04 is officially out
[12:11] <user> !party
[12:11] <GreenTuxer> for those who didn't notice
[12:11] <Myrtti> GreenTuxer: great, time to party at #ubuntu-release-party then
[12:11] <jrib> anew: cron should log to /var/log/syslog
[12:12] <darrynvantonder> check the cron log?
[12:12] <whitewolf_> Anyone use torrents here?
[12:12] <whitewolf_> I need to set a torrent related software on ubuntu.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> !torrent
[12:13] <whitewolf_> Nah its not a torrent client
[12:13] <whitewolf_> I want to set a torrent tracker software on my machine.
[12:13] <the_kick> i cannot update my nautilus to 3.6 for love nor money
[12:14] <the_kick> tired adding the ppa etc
[12:14] <the_kick> stuck at 3.4.2
[12:15] <compdoc> welp, Im d/l 13.04 Server. Hope I like it
[12:15] <X-tonic> What time is the release?
[12:15] <X-tonic> stable out?
[12:15] <starbuck> ActionParsnip: does pidgin with FB work for you?
[12:15] <DJones> X-tonic: Its already out
[12:15] <compdoc> just got the email
[12:16] <X-tonic> thnx
[12:16] <user> Does Bumblebee 3.1 work with the new Ubuntu Release? I know there are some issues with the 3.2 Version of BUmblebee
[12:16] <darrynvantonder> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[12:16] <BluesKaj> whitewolf_, twatch
[12:17] <chxane> woo 13.04 live
[12:17] <tyrog> http://www.ubuntu.com/ its here :)
[12:17] <whitewolf_> whats twatch
[12:19] <BluesKaj> whitewolf_, look it up in your package manager
[12:20] <Chris___> Hi Community!
[12:21] <wanksta> how to format media using command line via terminal
[12:21] <Chris___> have a little bit problems with getting multithreaded downloads via xargs or parallel work with an ul-list file with much parameters... seems that parameters in inputfile aren't recognised or misinterpreted. Somebody here which has any experiences in this case?
[12:21] <whitewolf_> Hey blueskaj sorry for the misunderstanding , I dont want a tracker I wanna install opentracker to create my own tracker on my machine.
[12:22] <whitewolf_> I hope thats clear
[12:22] <cfhowlett> wanksta, I think mkfs is what you want
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !mkfs
[12:22] <BluesKaj> then you should have said so, whitewolf_ , sorry can't help there , maybe someone else can.
[12:22] <moppers> gahh scroll to switch isn't working still
[12:23] <izx> !release
[12:23] <whitewolf_> Its okay kaj ill find someone else
[12:23] <moppers> is raring supposed to have that or not?
[12:23] <wanksta> cfhowlett,  does need to be rooted
[12:23] <Chris___> Thats an exampleline of the input file:   --limit-rate=10000 --header="accept-encoding: gzip" -t10 -T10 "http://uni106.ogame.se/api/players.xml" -O "/usr/share/nginx/www/xmltemp/uni106.ogame.se-players.xml.gz"
[12:23] <cfhowlett> wanksta, probably
[12:23] <moppers> i am supposed to be able to hover over a launcher icon with multiple windows, and middle mouse wheel to swap between them?
[12:24] <Chris___> Somebody?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/new-ubuntu-13-04-features
[12:25] <moppers> Dr_willis, Yes. But it doesn't work for me.
[12:26] <Chris___> xargs seems to destroy something on this line because called with simple wget it will work.... --limit-rate=10000 --header="accept-encoding: gzip" -t10 -T10 "http://uni106.ogame.se/api/players.xml" -O "/usr/share/nginx/www/xmltemp/uni106.ogame.se-players.xml.gz"
[12:26] <Dr_willis> If you did  upgrade.. try it with a newly made user
[12:27] <moppers> is launchpad the official bugtracker?
[12:27] <k1l_> moppers: yes
[12:27] <Chris___> cat urllist.lst | xargs -n 1 -P 1 wget doesnt work with such lines...
[12:30] <moppers> not working on new user account either,  i will leave it a couple of days before creating a bug report
[12:30] <wanksta> cfhowlett, look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600875/
[12:31] <wanksta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5600875/
[12:31] <cfhowlett> wanksta, if you still have files after formatting, then I have no idea what's going on ... sorry.
[12:31] <MadMurkaa> My postfix log files are suggesting that there's a problem with write permissions on the following directory (drwxr-sr-x 2 virtual virtual 4096 Apr 25 11:35 virtual). Does this look likely given the ls -dl output? How could I correct it?
[12:32] <belgianguy> err, I get an 13.04 upgrade alert, but it's release notes state that it's an ALPHA
[12:32] <belgianguy> is that normal?
[12:32] <rickborn> 13.04 was available for my machine this morning but message says it is alpha, I'm guessing that is just an out of date note?
[12:33] <rickborn> haha, someone beat me to this, nevermind :-)
[12:33] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, if you enabled pre-releases ...
[12:34] <MadMurkaa> This error from the log file might assist: (maildir delivery failed: create maildir file /var/spool/mail/virtual/ticktocktech.co.uk/admin/tmp/1366893024.P5256.ubuntu: Permission denied)
[12:34] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: I did not, just checked
[12:34] <belgianguy> http://i.imgur.com/mmxWcg3.png
[12:34] <georgi> Hello
[12:34] <rickborn> nor did I enable pre-releases
[12:34] <georgi> I have upgraded to beta of 13.04 and now that I see the final release I cannot upgrade to it , it does not show as option
[12:35] <jrib> georgi: just run regular updates, that will take to the final release
[12:35] <k1l_> georgi: just run the updates and it will be the final
[12:35] <Dr_willis> georgi,  do an sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade and it will e final
[12:35] <Pici> !final
[12:35] <varikonniemi> dist-upgrade
[12:35] <georgi> I do but it does not show up
[12:35] <georgi> I did that
[12:35] <jrib> georgi: what exactly are you looking for when you say "it does not show up"?
[12:35] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: http://i.imgur.com/xg5GlT3.png
[12:35] <Pici> georgi: it won't show up as a new release, you are already running 13.04
[12:35] <Dr_willis> if you do those commands from the cli.. it is  the final
[12:36] <georgi> well I see on the site it is released when I do dist-upgrade it does not
[12:36] <Pici> georgi: What does lsb_release -a report?
[12:36] <k1l_> georgi: there is no dist-upgrade from 13.04 beta to 13.04 final
[12:36] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, saw it.  I'd suspect a mislabelling somewhere
[12:36] <Joker-2> Hello
[12:36] <hachre> weird
[12:36] <georgi> ok k1l_
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, greetings
[12:36] <k1l_> georgi: thats what beta testers should know
[12:36] <hachre> I can't write in #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <georgi> so I just wait for regular updates
[12:36] <Joker-2> Is it possible to update ubuntu from 11.04 to 13.04 ?
[12:36] <hackeron_> hey, I'm trying to do a do-release-upgrade -- I'm getting: libncursesw5 : Depends: libtinfo5 (= 5.9-10ubuntu1) but 5.9-10ubuntu4 is to be installed --- any ideas?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, no.
[12:36] <Pici> hachre: 13.04 is released, support is in here.
[12:36] <georgi> but am I running final release now
[12:37] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, so manual installation is the only choice left ?
[12:37] <jrib> Joker-2: 11.04 → 11.10 → 12.04 → 12.10 → 13.04
[12:37] <hachre> Pici: oh, I thought it would directly switch to 13.10 then :)
[12:37] <hachre> the channel that is
[12:37] <hackeron_> Pici: oooh, support over here please :)
[12:37] <hachre> grats on the release guys! :) love 13.04 is great
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, and 11.04 is end of life .. quite end of life.
[12:37] <georgi> pici it says 13.04
[12:37] <Pici> georgi: then you're running 13.04.
[12:37] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, yeah...that's why I wanna update OS now
[12:37] <georgi> ok
[12:37] <Joker-2> question is HOW
[12:37] <georgi> thanks
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, clean install.  download the iso.  make a bootable media cd/usb and install
[12:38] <jrib> hackeron_: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libncursesw5 libtinfo5 »
[12:38] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, What If I go for update to 12.04 and then to 13.04. Will it work ?
[12:38] <Joker-2> update manager is ready to update 11.04 to 12.04.2
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, nope.  12.04 to 12.10 then 13.04
[12:39] <hackeron_> jrib: http://pastie.org/7716635
[12:39] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, damn
[12:39] <jrib> Joker-2: you can't skip releases, you need to do all these updates unless you do a fresh install: 11.04 → 11.10 → 12.04 → 12.10 → 13.04 .  At this point, backup and fresh install is likely easier and faster
[12:39] <BluesKaj> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Joker-2, update manager shows 11.04 to 12.04 ??? it shouldn't.
[12:39] <jrib> hackeron_: « lsb_release -c »
[12:40] <Joker-2> cfhowlett, yeah it is showing
[12:40] <hackeron_> jrib: Codename:raring
[12:40] <jrib> hackeron_: so did do-release-upgrade start upgrading and quit or what?
[12:40] <Joker-2> by the way, How to run GUI application inside LXC
[12:40] <hackeron_> jrib: nope, I did do-release-upgrade and it showed an error: libncursesw5 : Depends: libtinfo5 (= 5.9-10ubuntu1) but 5.9-10ubuntu4 is to be installed
[12:40] <Joker-2>  ?
[12:41] <hackeron_> jrib: and now when I do apt-get dist-upgrade -- I see that error too
[12:41] <jrib> hackeron_: why do you have raring repos and packages from raring?
[12:41] <MadMurkaa_> Does user mail have write permission on this folder? If not, how would I assign it? drwxr-sr-x  3 root mail     4096 Apr 25 10:15 mail
[12:41] <hackeron_> jrib: I don't know, all I did was do-release-upgrade
[12:42] <jrib> hackeron_: you didn't do anything before that?
[12:42] <hackeron_> jrib: nope, nothing, it was a clean 12.04 release I believe
[12:42] <jrib> hackeron_: like change your sources.list or run apt-get of some sort for example?
[12:42] <hackeron_> jrib: sorry, 12.10
[12:42] <jrib> hackeron_: how far did do-release-upgrade get exactly?
[12:42] <hackeron_> jrib: no, nothing like that, I installed 12.10 because that's the CD I had and then I ran do-release-upgrade
[12:43] <hackeron_> jrib: erm, I just see this: http://pastie.org/7716683
[12:43] <hackeron_> jrib: how would I get the output from the screen session? - is there a log somewhere?
[12:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:45] <ShapeShifter499> A computer that is a thin client is basically a bare bones computer that netboots stuff off a server and displays it locally right?    is this possible on a PowerBook G4 and Ubuntu?
[12:45] <jrib> hackeron_: yes logs of the upgrade are kept in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ .  I'm still not sure what exactly you did.  I don't even see what you pasted originally in your last paste.  In any case, if you got this from a fresh 12.10 cd, I would strongly urge you to start over, carefully documenting your steps (install 12.10, run do-release-upgrade) as it's quite bad if it fails.  If it does fail again, try making
[12:45] <jrib> sure you are up to date (run normal upgrades) before doing the do-release-upgrade and see if you still have an issue.  If you do (either way) have the issue repeat itself, please file a bug report.
[12:46] <hackeron_> jrib: I was up to date, bessides, do-release-upgrade updates all packages before upgrading to the next dist
[12:46] <jrib> hackeron_: yes
[12:47] <ShapeShifter499> I have a much faster computer in another room and I'd like to "mirror" it to my PowerBook G4 in a secure way...  NoMachine did not go well on this PowerBook, kept crashing my X11
[12:47] <hackeron_> jrib: this is a raid0, it is very time consuming to re-instsall - what can I do with the current state?
[12:48] <hackeron_> jrib: here is the screen log output: http://pastie.org/7716714
[12:48] <jrib> hackeron_: my advice is that you do not try to fix the current state.  You don't lose anything with a reinstall and it's fairly bad that an upgrade would fail on a fresh install.  In any case, if you want to ignore my advice, you can try to run a regular "apt-get dist-upgrade" first and pastebin output
[12:50] <hackeron_> jrib: I do not have physical access to the box and it has no optical drive anymore - it would involve gaining access to the box and taking the box appart. Here is apt-get dist-upgrade output: http://pastie.org/7716724
[12:50] <bjensen> I just installed ubuntu lts onto my server. No monitor connected. I have a mac, if I put a network cable between the two.. can I then ssh into it ? How can I figure out which ip to use
[12:50] <jrib> hackeron_: try using -f (read output carefully)
[12:50] <MadMurkaa_> Does group mail have write permission on this folder? If not, how would I assign it? drwxr-sr-x  3 root mail     4096 Apr 25 10:15 mail
[12:51] <jrib> !permissions > MadMurkaa_, no it does not
[12:51] <hackeron_> jrib: this is with -f -- http://pastie.org/7716731
[12:51] <jrib> !permissions > MadMurkaa_ , no it does not
[12:51] <jrib> oops
[12:52] <jrib> hackeron_: does "apt-get -f install" do the same?  I've never used it the way you pasted
[12:53] <hackeron_> jrib: I tried to do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libtinfo5_5.9-10ubuntu1_amd64.deb -- it went a bit further. Now apt-get -f install shows this: http://pastie.org/7716750
[12:53] <Rompoy> use the program Rufus to make a pendrive bootable with 13.04 ISO. Is excellent and fast. So you don't need a DVD unit to install
[12:54] <hackeron_> jrib: or rather apt-get -f install just reinstalled the newer version of libtinfo5
[12:54] <jrib> hackeron_: what happened with dpkg?  Your last paste says libtinfo5 is 5.9-10ubuntu4
[12:54] <mernilio> Hi!
[12:55] <mernilio> Do you have an off-topic channel?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> mernilio, greetings
[12:55] <jrib> !ot | mernilio
[12:55] <mernilio> cfhowlett: thanks!
[12:55] <mernilio> ubottu: thanks
[12:55] <hackeron_> jrib: oooh, I did dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libncursesw5_5.9-10ubuntu4_amd64.deb -- now apt-get dist-upgrade is going further
[12:56] <ggherdov> Hi all. I just updated from 12.04 to 12.10. It asked me to replace the apache2.conf file, I said no since I customized it and had no backup. Now the old config file isn't recognized by apache2 anymore. How to let apt do the job again and replace the apache2 config file with a good one ?
[12:58] <jrib> ggherdov: it shouldn't be the case that your files is no longer recognized
[12:59] <hackeron_> jrib: I did a few dpkg -i /path-to-new-pkg.deb and now apt-get dist-upgrade is moving along :D
[12:59] <jrib> hackeron_: ok
[13:00] <hackeron_> jrib: only thing that was broken is python and perl, rest seems ok
[13:00] <ggherdov> jrib: it goes like this: the old config (apache2.conf) loaded another config (httpd.conf). no httpd.conf disappeared, and apache2.conf gives then an error. I'd like apt to fix this mess. is it possble?
[13:00] <ggherdov> now*
[13:00] <jrib> ggherdov: well don't you care about your configuration?  You'll just be left with a default configuration
[13:01] <ggherdov> jrib: I do. I took now a backup, and will try to restore it once , at least, " service apache2 start " executes fine. Now I am not even there.
[13:02] <jrib> ggherdov: you can 1) find the package that gives apache2.conf (dpkg -S /etc/apache/apache2.conf), then 2) rename apache2.conf, then 3) reinstall the package in (1) but pass --force-confmiss
[13:02] <jrib> to dpkg
[13:03] <ggherdov> jrib: ok trying that.
[13:04] <lewis1711> I can no longer become root or use sudo. I messed something up by adding myself to the audio group. what should I do?
[13:05] <jrib> lewis1711: what exactly did you do that messed something up?
[13:05] <lewis1711> jrib: probably this " sudo usermod -G audio lewis" or this " sudo adduser lewis audio"
[13:05] <lewis1711> that's all i can think of
[13:06] <X-tonic> Is the server at http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases//raring/ down?
[13:06] <jrib> lewis1711: yes, the first one changes your group list (i.e. ALL groups you belong to) to just the audio group.  Reboot in recovery mode and add yourself back to the sudo group (and whatever other groups you want)
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !torrent|X-tonic,
[13:07] <lewis1711> oh gof
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !torrent use torrents ... bandwith is limited via direct download
[13:07] <lewis1711> I am high and want to make music. but ok I'll try
[13:07] <lewis1711> thanks
[13:07] <jrib> ggherdov: by they way, did you check that /etc/apache2 didn't have some apache2.conf.dist-file in it?
[13:09] <X-tonic> I understand that torrents are better and will help manage server loads. But in my university, firewalls block torrent trackers. :(
[13:09] <cfhowlett> X-tonic, oh, that does indeed bite
[13:10] <anew> how can i check if a specific cron from a specific folder is currently running
[13:10] <jrib> anew: did you check the log I told you about before?
[13:10] <anew> jrib that log is so big ....
[13:11] <jrib> anew: use the search function in your editor
[13:11] <anew> there's hundreds of instances of cron in there
[13:11] <anew> i need to check if it is running in this exact moment
[13:11] <anew> * a specific one
[13:11] <jrib> anew: don't you also know the time and command you are looknig for?
[13:11] <anew> hmmm command yes let me see
[13:12] <cfhowlett> X-tonic, but I bet your uni's computer science department or students have a workaround :)
[13:13] <krypto> on my terminal i was running apt-get install and and i accidentally closed that terminal,now i have new terminal how can i see the progress of apt-get install,i can see the process id from ps.
[13:13] <anew> seems like it is running in this log, but it is not actually doing anything, what does this line mean: Apr 25 13:11:57 raspberrypi /USR/SBIN/CRON[6789]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[13:13] <gnuskool> krypto:  :)
[13:13] <Prism> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u3ckr/
[13:14] <betrayd> anew without a mail transport agent it doesn't know how to mail u the results
[13:14] <anew> hmmm
[13:14] <jrib> anew: your command is "info"?
[13:14] <jrib> anew: ah no, don't you get lines with CMD?
[13:14] <anew> jrib no, this is the line after the actual command
[13:15] <anew> where would an error be ?
[13:15] <ggherdov> jrib: yes, I have a apache2.conf.dpkg-dist -- and it works. Is it some sort of default config file ?
[13:15] <anew> in syslog also ?
[13:15] <jrib> anew: if you have an MTA, then you get mailed the output of your command (that's what that line is referring to)
[13:15] <Birdo> Hey everyone, was here last night with this question. Anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to look at my hardware and update it's 3d drivers? I'm booting for an external HD so I think when I switched from a computer to a laptop Ubuntu continued continued to use the desktop's drivers?
[13:15] <jrib> ggherdov: when you choose to keep the old configuration, dpkg saves the new one for you in that file.  I forgot about this when I first answered your question
[13:15] <Birdo> Or does anyone know if Ubuntu would automatically pick that up and use the right drivers?
[13:15] <Kottizen> Is there any torrent file available for 13.04, x86_64?
[13:15] <ggherdov> jrib: amazing! thanks a lot for this hint
[13:16] <jrib> !torrent | Kottizen
[13:16] <jrib> !torrents | Kottizen
[13:16] <Kottizen> Thanks jrib!
[13:16] <luv> ChrisTownsend: regarding the issue with filing a bug in launchpad against ubuntu - what os/browser are you trying it in?
[13:16] <krypto> gnuskool: how can i get access to that,do u have any idea?
[13:17] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Hi:)  I'm using 13.04 w/ Firefox.  Do you happen to be logged in to Launchpad?
[13:17] <Moopz> I have a question regarding my wireless. I have a Centrino Advanced-N 6230 and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.
[13:18] <luv> ChrisTownsend: yes, Im logged in
[13:18] <AbcAbc> is there a good, lightweight linux email client ? I used sylpheed, but it stores my account data unencrypted in a text file, this makes me consirned
[13:18] <mzaza> I want to show battery percentage in the pannel, not remaning time. Is that possible?
[13:19] <ChrisTownsend> luv: This is very strange.  Try this direct link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[13:19] <luv> ChrisTownsend: yes, that redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:19] <luv> ChrisTownsend: 13.04, firefox
[13:19] <shagoyjo> Salutations! I have a network adapter with "post-up ip addr add insert.ip.addr.here\24 broadcast insert.subnet.broadcast.here" at then end of it's block in /etc/network/interfaces, but when I ping insert.ip.addr.here, I get timeouts. Any advice?
[13:20] <gnuskool> krypto: apt-get check this will check to see if indeed it installed all dependencies from your last attempt
[13:21] <krypto> gnuskool: how can i bring the same thing  to fg?
[13:21] <ChrisTownsend> luv: What is your Launchpad id?  Perhaps this is a permissions thing.
[13:21] <gnuskool> krypto: fg?
[13:21] <krypto> foreground
[13:21] <ChrisTownsend> luv: I'm not very familiar with that though, so I would need to ask if that is really the case.
[13:22] <luv> ChrisTownsend: my launchpad id is lukas-vacek
[13:22] <ubu> so currently iOS 6+ you can't sync music from within ubuntu can you?
[13:22] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Ok, hang on for a bit while I look into this.
[13:22] <gnuskool> krypto: not sure you can if the terminal has closed, but apt will have a list of files, or dependencies, that need to be met if the app installed completely - if not it will ask to get them for you
[13:24] <Moopz> I have a question regarding my wireless. I have a Centrino Advanced-N 6230 and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.,,
[13:24] <iDrofox> hello, i want to upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04 how i do it ?
[13:24] <DJones> !upgrade | iDrofox
[13:25] <gnuskool> iDrofox: i usually save my home partition and just reinstall the entire app for a major upgrade
[13:25] <DJones> iDrofox: The 2nd link from ubottu has the upgrade instructions
[13:26] <iDrofox> ok thanks
[13:26] <shagoyjo> If there is no advice to be had on my ip addr add question, can somebody recommend a more targeted channel?
[13:26] <preyalone> Where can I find a list of changes / new features in Raring Ringtail?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/ubuntu-1304-raring-ringtail-final-beta.html
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: there are LOTS of pages on this.....
[13:27] <DJones> preyalone: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[13:27] <gnuskool> krypto, no luck?
[13:27] <iDrofox> when i search for "update manager" it show "software  updater" ?
[13:28] <gnuskool> krypto: you could also dpkg -s then the name of the package
[13:28] <p0wn3d> what is the best way to upgrade to 13.04 from 12.04?  Backup home, upgrade then restore? Does anyone have a cloud solution that is seemless?
[13:28] <preyalone> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[13:28] <iDrofox> p0wn3d: i am doing same xd!
[13:28] <krypto> gnuskool: tried apt-get check pakagename but it didnt show anything so killed that process and started again :)
[13:29] <vnc786> i have added passwd command  in a file and saved it as a script but when i click on the script it ask me for three option "Run in terminal" "Display" "Cancel" "Run"
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: simple websearch...nothing fancy
[13:29] <iDrofox> p0wn3d: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade ?
[13:29] <jrib> p0wn3d: your other alternative is to upgrade to 12.10 and then 13.04
[13:29] <vnc786> how can i make it always "Run in terminal"  ???
[13:29] <gnuskool> krypto: after you're done run dpkg -s on it and it will verify the installation
[13:29] <jrib> vnc786: you can probably create a .desktop file for it
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> p0wn3d: you do realise raring is only 9 months supported, Quantal will be EOL after Raring. Why would you want to leave LTS with 5 years support....
[13:30] <vari> hello! so i installed 13.04 clean install, and my computer does not boot anymore. It just stays at black screen when the OS should start loading. Any ideas_
[13:30] <preyalone> Any word on which WiFi cards Raring Ringtail supports? Will convertibles like ThinkPad Yoga be able to go online out of the box?
[13:30] <krypto> thanks gnuskool :)
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|vari
[13:30] <Marlinc> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sync/+question/227438
[13:31] <vari> i have a radeon 7950, one would think this would work out of the box...
[13:31] <rocio> holaaa
[13:31] <Birdo> Do I have to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 to upgrade to 13.04? I'm doing sudo do-release-upgrade –d, and I'm downloading right now what I think is 12.10?
[13:31] <DJones> Birdo: Yes you do
[13:31] <Birdo> DJones: thank you.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> vari, as always, hardware support from OEM is ... uncertain
[13:31] <p0wn3d> ActionParsnip: Do improvements from 13.04 ever trickle down to 12.04 or do we have to wait for the next LTS release
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Birdo, or you could clean install 13.04
[13:32] <Guest58678> eyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[13:32] <Birdo> cfhowlett: And lose all my files?
[13:32] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone have issues installing 13.04?
[13:32] <SuperDefenderX> Namely driver issues?
[13:32] <k1l_> !details | SuperDefenderX
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Birdo, if you have a dedicated /home, your files will be safe
[13:33] <Birdo> cfhowlett: I do. Is there any benefit to a clean install?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> p0wn3d: depends on stability etc
[13:33] <Moopz> I have a Centrino Advanced-N 6230 and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network, so it seems it doesn't actually create any ad-hoc. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.,,
[13:33] <vnc786> jrib: thanks for that ..for temporary i want to keep on users Desktop so they can can click on that add change the passwd...i know its not a big deal to click on run on a terminal but i am just looking for option
[13:33] <gnuskool> Birdo,  backup your home directory and start on a clean slate, there are many tuts online covering this as it is a common scenario
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Birdo, well, direct upgrade without incremental steps for one.  plus formatting the /root filesystem is like a good dental cleaning... not necessarily something you want to do daily, but definitely love the benefits
[13:35] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Hi, I'm back.
[13:36] <ChrisTownsend> luv: Did you say you wanted to report a bug against the signon package?
[13:36] <cebor> somebody just on 13.04?  is this normal: when i move a window with "Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Arrow", there are ugly lines while switching desktop..
[13:36] <Birdo> cfhowlett: Alright, I will try it out. Thanks for the help and tip.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Birdo, best of luck.
[13:37] <nandersson> Hi, for the record. Unity in Ubuntu 13.04 is based on Qt right and not Gtk?
[13:39] <k1l_> nandersson: unity next will be based on qt
[13:39] <nandersson> k1l_, when will that be? 13.10 then?
[13:40] <k1l_> the target is 14.04
[13:40] <k1l_> i dont know if it will be in 13.01 for testing purposes
[13:40] <k1l_> *13.10
[13:40] <gnuskool> poor gnome
[13:40] <nandersson> yeah, should be as 14.04 will be lts.
[13:41] <Guest70796> did we get gnome with 13.04?
[13:41] <jiltdil> Is 13.04 working fine
[13:41] <k1l_> Avasz: there was always gnome3 available in ubuntu
[13:42] <Avasz> k1l_, i mean as default DE. There were news about it floating around
[13:42] <k1l_> Avasz: ubuntu is sticking to unity as default
[13:42] <Avasz> fine then.
[13:42] <k1l_> but there is some gnome ubuntu remix with gnome3 as default.
[13:43] <SuperLag> Can you guys recommend any cool 3rd-party apps that provide .debs for Ubuntu? I've been surprised by some of the devs/companies who have Linux versions of stuff, that's just not in the repos. I've got Skype,Teamviewer,Adobe Reader,Scrivener... so far.
[13:43] <Izak> How can I download cmake ?
[13:43] <Avasz> k1l_, is it official?
[13:43] <Avasz> this one right? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[13:43] <shagoyjo> I have an aliased network interface eth1 and eth1:0 with different ip's but when I ping eth1:0 I get naught but timeouts (eth1 replies as normal)
[13:43] <Moopz> I have a intel wireless card and am trying to create a Ad-Hoc network, however it keeps trying to connect to other networks when I've created the network, so it seems it doesn't actually create any ad-hoc. Any idea as to what might be wrong? Using 12.04.,,
[13:44] <k1l_> Avasz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/its-official-ubuntu-gnome-remix-joins-the-ubuntu-family
[13:44] <shagoyjo> both interfaces ifup properly. Any advice?
[13:44] <Avasz> k1l_, ok. thanks
[13:45] <shagoyjo> fyi, matching subnet masks, matching broadcasts, ip addr's off by one. This is about as simple as the setup can get. What am I missing
[13:45] <vari> Hello! I tried to install 13.04 but my computer does not boot anymore. It just stays at blinking cursor. I don\t think it is nomodeset etc. since i am curently running it from usb and it works fine.
[13:45] <nandersson> SuperLag, Google Earth, UltraEdit
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> p0wn3d  if you want the latest features, use 13.04, it's up to you to decide if you like the improvements - many 13.04 reviews to be found
[13:46] <jmmL> hi! I'm having some trouble with unity on 13.04
[13:46] <jmmL> It won't load
[13:46] <jiltdil> Whats new in 13.04, any docs available
[13:47] <DJones> !notes | jiltdil
[13:47] <betrayd>  shagoyjo how do you ping the one with :0 in the name, paste your command here
[13:47] <SuperDefenderX> USB Creator keeps crashing trying to burn the 13.04 iso.
[13:47] <carif> when I do 'update-manager -d', the notification I see says raring is still alpha. is raring not yet generally available?
[13:47] <jiltdil> DJones, Thanks
[13:47] <shagoyjo> ping insert.ip.of.eth1:0
[13:47] <mzaza> Is it possible to direct output to copy from terminal so I can paste it instead of marking with mouse? For example cat filetobecopied.c >>
[13:48] <shagoyjo> betrayd: ping insert.ip.of.eth1:0 , sorry :-)
[13:48] <betrayd> you might have to escape the colon in some cases in cli shagoyjo
[13:48] <Aww> Can I just update unity without upgrading to 13.04?
[13:48] <rickborn> carif: Mine said that this morning too but on a second machine I tried just now it was the 'released' release notes. I think it is just a messed up message, the release is out
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Aww, enable backports, then apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade and MAYBE ...
[13:49] <betrayd> shagoyjo:  \: sometimes works depending on the command
[13:49] <SuperLag> nandersson: I forgot about UltraEdit. Nice one.
[13:49] <carif> rickborn, ty
[13:49] <mzaza> shagoyjo: Could you help me with a little thing here :) ?
[13:49] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I'm not ACTUALLY using a colon. I just didn't paste my server's external ip into public chat. I'm using the external ip that I've configured on the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:49] <b2coutts> I have a desktop without a keyboard or monitor, and I want to get a file from it. Is there a reasonably easy way to configure a Live CD to run sshd on boot, with a known hostname and some user I can ssh as?
[13:49] <shagoyjo> mzaza: what's up? maybe maybe no
[13:50] <mzaza> shagoyjo: Is it possible to direct output to copy from terminal so I can paste it instead of marking with mouse? For example cat filetobecopied.c >>
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !patience | mzaza
[13:52] <b2coutts> mzaza: I think xclip is what you're looking for
[13:52] <mzaza> MonkeyDust: Sorry, I just think sometimes people are busy with other and my message my get lost unnoticed.
[13:52] <betrayd> shagoyjo: if it's thru a router your 'external' might not even be visible to the outside world
[13:52] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I have two IP's both of which are externally accessible
[13:52] <mzaza> b2coutts: Thanks :) I'm installing it
[13:52] <tr57> Hi folks
[13:53] <betrayd> shagoyjo: even the eth:0
[13:53] <shagoyjo> betrayd: .39 and .40 on the same subnet. I can ping one but not the other, .39 is eth1 and .40 is eth1:0
[13:53] <tr57> I have a laptop connected to an LCD monitor via a VGA cable   but its not been picked up
[13:54] <tr57> even arandr dosent see it
[13:54] <aneks> I just upgraded to 13.04 and the only way my monitor works is via an analog cable, as soon as I plug in the HDMI cable screen goes blank
[13:55] <betrayd> tr57 does your laptop have fn keys, or enable the 2nd display at BIOS
[13:55] <vari> so do you have any ideas where to start the troubleshooting_
[13:55] <shagoyjo> betrayd: eth0 is on my internal network, a different subnet (and NIC). eth1 and eth1:0 are the same nic, with two different IPs
[13:56] <vari> i find it VERY weird that booting from live usb works perfectly but booting the installed OS just leaves cursor blinking
[13:56] <tr57> betrayd,  as in F1 F2 etc   (sorry if thats silly!)
[13:56] <sybian> gai fnokin seed
[13:56] <crash_cy> I'm having trouble with my keyboard in Ubuntu 12.10.  About a week ago, I swapped the escape and caps lock keys.  It seemed to work fine, until a couple days ago, when they would sometimes revert for a moment (hitting caps lock would work as caps lock, Esc as escape).  Now the -_ button (next to the 0) has stopped working.  I've tried restoring default keyboard settings, but the -_ still doesn't work and the Esc doesn't work at all no
[13:56] <Artorias> try before booting nomodeset
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | vari
[13:56] <hackeron_> how would I temporarily disable CPU throttling? - I want to run CPU at max speed for a benchmark
[13:56] <betrayd> tn57 maybe with different colored icons on them if its not that new
[13:57] <vari> how would nomodeset not be required in live usb but in normal boot|
[13:57] <tr57> betrayd,  just found it! Fn key
[13:57] <adamk> vari: Sounds more to me like the bootloader didn't get installed properly than anything with the graphics driver, IMO.
[13:57] <Artorias> i don't know GPU driver issue
[13:57] <vari> so i thought also
[13:57] <jonas___> oi
[13:57] <jonas___> i canot boot ubuntu raring into a live seesion , says busybox
[13:57] <vari> but i installed a second time and chose manual partitioning and made sure it had the right disk as bootloader install
[13:58] <DrGrov> Okay. I figured out that all the fans are running efficiently. But still I get the red light.
[13:58] <tr57> betrayd, do I reboot and keep pressing the Fn key?
[13:58] <mzaza> b2coutts: It's not working, I tried one of the examples in the man page. uptime | xclip and opened the browser and tried to past what I should have copied but it's not pasting the output of the uptime.
[13:58] <Artorias> ok press Ctrl + Alt + F1
[13:58] <DrGrov> The problem is like this:
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> vari  then try the nomodeset trick
[13:58] <betrayd> tr57: at boot time, the special colored keys work
[13:58] <Artorias> then type (sudo apt-get install nvidia-current) if you have nVidia
[13:58] <vari> i tried but i cannot run update/grub from live usb_
[13:58] <jonas___> i canot boot ubuntu raring into a live seesion , says busybox
[13:58] <betrayd> tr57: press the key combo to enable 2nd/ext display
[13:58] <jonas___> any one ?
[13:59] <tr57> betrayd, OK will reboot now and press the Fn key
[13:59] <vari> ubuntu@ubuntu:/var/log$ sudo update-grub /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[13:59] <DrGrov> I have cleaned my computer, it is just a red light flashing and nothing happens. I read from here http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=459226&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c00300335 that the problem is a blocking fan or similar. It is the first option on that list. But I do not know how to proceed. How can I reset the motherboard since all fans are working as intended?
[13:59] <Artorias> no, after you install it, boot the OS then keep press the Ctrl+Alt+F1 before the Xorg start
[14:00] <jony> how can I save installed software (ex. Krusader) to maintain it's settings to use it in a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[14:00] <vari> currently i am re/downloading the iso since i really cannot come up with anything else.
[14:01] <jonas___> well
[14:01] <olmari> jony: well I have done this type of stuff so taht I have setup /home to be on separate partition, and use it as /home with new isntall also... tough yet another thing how to make it so on system that is not already
[14:01] <jonas___> busybox shell any one  ?
[14:01] <Artorias> np
[14:01] <minas> i saw a post today that amd catalyst 13.4 was released. When I checked mine, it was 12.9 - I am using the latest amd driver from the repositories. Why are the repositories so outdated? Should I install the 13.4 one?
[14:01] <hackeron_> this did the trick :) < ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/ | grep cpu[0-9] | while read line; do echo $(cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq) > /sys/devices/system/cpu/$line/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq; done
[14:01] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I've also tried doing this with ip addr add instead of creating an alias in /etc/network/interfaces, with the same result
[14:02] <jony> olmari, I have too the second partition in /home
[14:02] <betrayd> shagoyjo: tried pinging their hostnames, who's directing traffic there
[14:02] <sw0rdfish> hey, can I sync folders from my win8 and ubuntu machine on Ubuntu One?
[14:02] <tryit593> me
[14:02] <Maiks> i've just installed 13.04. What is better with amd graphics? free or private drivers? I have an AMD-350 and get errors starting ubuntu with both. Also suspending doesn't work with eeepcs?
[14:02] <tryit593> hi jony___
[14:02] <tryit593> hi jonas___*
[14:02] <jony> olmari, if I keep /home, won't be conflicts?
[14:02] <jonas___> hey
[14:02] <aneks> does anyone know why my monitor won't work via HDMI after upgrading to 13.04?
[14:02] <shagoyjo> betrayd: I'm pinging them direct by IP, as I said earlier, no hostnames. I don't want to tinker with that layer yet.
[14:03] <theadmin> Okay, Raring has been released. The support has been cut down to just 9 months. Has a rolling-release branch been implemented?  CAn I install 13.04 using Wubi, on Windows 7.
[14:05] <tr57> betrayd, that sort of worked!   but now the LCD says "Unsupported video format"  and I just have the laptop screen
[14:05] <betrayd> tr57 if its the only one, there are 3 settings, LCD only, LCD+VGA, VGA only so try it (press twice?) so you can see boot messages on both.
[14:06] <tr57> betrayd, right  thanks   will try again
[14:06] <betrayd> tr57 the BIOS may have diagnostics to show/go thru all resolutions
[14:07] <betrayd> pick one that the TV can do as well tr57
[14:07] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Sure
[14:07] <betrayd> tr57 then when you get both arandr can be made to work
[14:07] <theadmin> Or... hm...
[14:07] <Grape_hunter> i read that wubi support was being dropped in 13.04, but does that mean i can't install it anymore.. with the bootloader screw up somehow D:
[14:07] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Yeah, wubi was dropped, just found out. Now that's surpising.
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> yes.. because of windows 8
[14:08] <theadmin> Oh well it's all for the better
[14:08] <SuperLag> theadmin: what makes you say that?
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> I hate having to partiiton the drive :<
[14:08] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Virtualbox (or any other kind of VM) is an option
[14:08] <SuperLag> Grape_hunter: virtualization?
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> naaaaa :<
[14:08] <Grape_hunter> Performance :D
[14:08] <theadmin> Grape_hunter: Also, with Ubuntu partitioning is as simple as clicking "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"
[14:09] <genii-around> tr57: ctrl-alt-<numpad + or ->   will cycle through available resolutions
[14:09] <theadmin> SuperLag: Say what?
[14:09] <Grape_hunter> grrr
[14:09] <SuperLag> Grape_hunter: why not? what kind of hardware are you running on? Modern hardware is enough you can barely tell an OS is running in a VM if you have enough resources for it.
[14:09] <Grape_hunter> Wubi was convinient.
[14:09] <SuperLag> 07:08 < theadmin> Oh well it's all for the better
[14:09] <crash_cy> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my keyboard?  Esc and -_ keys are not working
[14:10] <theadmin> SuperLag: Linux on NTFS is... weird. I mean, fragmentation causes slowdowns, makes people think Ubuntu is at fault and is slow, turns them away from Ubuntu in the end
[14:10] <tr57> betrayd, BIOS dosent have any resolution options
[14:10] <SuperLag> theadmin: good point
[14:11] <shagoyjo> my /etc/network/interfaces eth1 block has "up ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 brd <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1 label eth1:0" at the end, and when I ifup I can see it in ifconfig, but <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't respond to ping. Any help?
[14:11] <cholby> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu once.
[14:11] <cholby> he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[14:12] <cholby> :D
[14:12] <Aww> Wut.
[14:12] <Artorias> dafuq did i just read?
[14:16] <AlecTaylor> hi
[14:16] <AlecTaylor> How do I successfully increase the size of my extended partition, e.g.: using GParted? - http://askubuntu.com/q/285359
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: use ubuntu liveCD. be sure your backups are up to date first
[14:17] <tr57> betrayd, so I can now see the grub menu on the  lcd monitor   can I pass anything to it to keep it on the lcd?
[14:18] <RedObsidian> hmm I tried getting the Chrome installed and it only downloads the amd compatible verion (from the chrome d/l page) / I'm using virtual box and ubuntu 13.04 - any ideas?
[14:18] <compdoc> the Chrome browser?
[14:19] <AlecTaylor> ActionParsnip: That's what I'm on; but I received an error
[14:19] <compdoc> oh, the os
[14:19] <RedObsidian> compdoc: yes
[14:19] <RedObsidian> browser
[14:20] <compdoc> RedObsidian, what happens when you try to install it?
[14:20] <RedObsidian> it tells me the incompatible cpu
[14:21] <shagoyjo> my /etc/network/interfaces eth1 block has "up ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 brd <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1 label eth1:0" at the end, and when I ifup I can see it in ifconfig, but <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't respond to ping. Any help?
[14:21] <stat_vi> RedObsidian: why not install chromium-browser from the repositories?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> !info chromium-browser
[14:22] <RedObsidian> does it work as well as Chrome? Sorry if silly question.
[14:22] <vari> http://www.zdnet.com/my-experiments-with-installing-ubuntu-13-04-pre-release-with-uefi-boot_p13-7000014233/#photo
[14:22] <vari> is he correct_
[14:22] <vari> he says it is a uefi secure boot problem i run into_
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> RedObsidian  chrome is based on chromium
[14:22] <vari> Summary: The Live image is Secure Boot compatible, but the installed system is not?
[14:22] <RedObsidian> so why have two versions?
[14:23] <theadmin> RedObsidian: Chrome comes with Flash and a built-in PDF reader, and is closed-source
[14:23] <theadmin> RedObsidian: Chromium on the other hand doesn't come with those, but is fully open.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> RedObsidian  https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[14:24] <RedObsidian> okay will check out the link.  If i make it a "camera" it does.  Was the shortcut for super to open the unity menu removed?
[14:36] <moppers> belgianguy, if you right click it , you can make it executable
[14:37] <belak> It only seems to work sometime
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  try right click, run in terminal
[14:37] <celso> i guess not...  can you use it?
[14:37] <celso> DrGrov, do you have hybrid graphics?
[14:38] <tr57> celso, whats "hybrid graphics"?
[14:38] <belgianguy> hmm, I went to Properties and then Permissions
[14:38] <celso> if your computer have 2 graphics card? can you post the specs of your pc?
[14:38] <belgianguy> and I set it to executable
[14:38] <belgianguy> but it still opens in gedit
[14:39] <bkfitz> Is there a separate room for linux mint or can i ask questions here
[14:40] <Captain_Proton> bkfitz: I would ask there as there many flavours of Mint
[14:40] <iksworbeZ> hi everyone
[14:40] <iksworbeZ> i have a question for the community
[14:41] <iksworbeZ> should i beinstalling ubuntu 13/094 on an ssd?
[14:41] <iksworbeZ> or on my hdd?
[14:41] <mayrk> would anyone please assist me in the instalation of ubuntu 12.04 on fakeraid?
[14:42] <llutz> iksworbeZ: ssd for performance
[14:42] <celso> iksworbeZ if i could choose, it would be on ssd.
[14:42] <belgianguy> started it through the terminal, bit odd though
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> iksworbeZ: I would use SSD for system and platter HDD for user data as it changes much more
[14:43] <belgianguy> I didn't have a right click option 'open with terminal'
[14:43] <Captain_Proton> iksworbeZ: I would install base on ssd and change my home to harddrive as that where video and images will be store
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> iksworbeZ: also put swap and /var on the platter based drive too
[14:43] <belgianguy> (it used to propose 'Open/Execute/Cancel'
[14:44] <celso> actually, i would rather disable swap and install zram. more usefull.
[14:45] <pianogmx> hey has anyone reported problems upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 ?
[14:45]  * pianogmx wants to make sure before i do inplace upgrade
[14:45] <maykr_> sorry i got disconnected...would anyone please assist me installing ubuntu 12.04 on fakeraid?
[14:47] <Andy__> Hi guys, I'm having an issue booting 13.04. I did a search on the forum but nothing popped up.  It's built-in to my Dell Precision laptop.
[14:50] <lmat> Audacity seems to have no problem,
[14:50] <cebor> LemensTS: try rssh, but i think u need to setup a chroot dir
[14:50] <lmat> But Gnome sound recorder is having difficulty.
[14:50] <lmat> *really* what I want is for cisco to pick up mine audio device.
[14:50] <Aww> Anyone moved from 12.04 -> 13.04 yet?
[14:50] <loreste> I am trying to tar a file  /mnt/ftp
[14:50] <loreste> it has a tone of subfolders
[14:50] <loreste> I want to get them all with the exception of a few
[14:51] <lmat> I figured I'd work on gnome sound recorder first, hoping that whatever works for gnome sound recorder would work for cisco.
[14:51] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: sure
[14:51] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: question one; how big is your array?
[14:51] <maykr_> Akiva-Mobile: care to query?
[14:51] <loreste> I used this command
[14:51] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: Query?
[14:51] <loreste> gtar -pczf ftpbackup.tar.gz /mnt/ftp/*/ --exclude={/mnt/ftp/*/_ben,/mnt/ftp/*/export/xslt}
[14:52] <Akiva-Mobile> second
[14:52] <Akiva-Mobile> maykr_: What is your array looking like?
[14:52] <loreste> it is exluding the directory _ben all together
[14:53] <iksworbeZ> thanks!
[14:54] <ryanlee> Hey everyone, I built a new machine at home and am able to install Ubuntu 12.04 on it, but when I attempt to install 12.10/13.04 I get dropped into busybox.
[14:54] <ryanlee> Same if I try to upgrade from 12.04.
[14:54] <maykr__> wow...i got disconnected again
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> lmat  same here, cheese records sound, but sound recorder does not
[14:54] <ryanlee> Has anyone experienced this problem before?
[14:54] <maykr__> Akiva-Mobile: something along the lines of /dev/mapper/isw_etc..etc...
[14:55] <Akiva-Mobile> sec
[14:55] <lmat> MonkeyDust: Well freaking crap
[14:55] <maykr__> those are 2 500gb hard disks
[14:55] <lmat> MonkeyDust: You don't happen to use cisco receiver, eh?
[14:56] <luc4> Hi! Is it possible to upgrade to 13.04 from the command line? I always find this only for ubuntu server.
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> luc4  try do-release-upgrade
[14:57] <luc4> MonkeyDust: thanks
[14:57] <sonOfRa> So, I just upgraded to 13.04, where did my workspaces go?
[14:57] <sonOfRa> After the reboot, the workspace switcher is gone, and I only have 1 workspace
[14:57] <ryanlee> sonOfRa, you have to enable them in settings
[14:58] <loreste> nevermind
[14:58] <loreste> got it
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  ctrl-alt arrow-left to switch, don't know how to bring back the icon, tho
[14:58] <loreste> thank you guys
[14:58] <sonOfRa> oh, there's the setting
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  arrow-right, even
[14:58] <sonOfRa> why is this disabled when upgrading, that's rather inconvenient?
[14:59] <kqwarkq> anyone know a torrent for final raring ringtail download?
[15:00] <Termana> What about the official torrent?
[15:00] <Termana> kqwarkq, http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[15:01] <jrib> !torrents | kqwarkq
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> kqwarkq  sroll down http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:02] <kqwarkq> i dont found the official torrent.
[15:02] <kqwarkq> where do you found it?
[15:02] <kqwarkq> thanks
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> kqwarkq  the link I just showed you, scroll down
[15:03] <kqwarkq> Thank you very much.
[15:03] <ThePendulum> Is it possible, and if so, risky to update U12.04 to 13.04?
[15:03] <mzaza> I was wondering why is Ubuntu with Unity slow, it's even slower than windows 8
[15:03] <ThePendulum> As in, keep everything
[15:04] <samijam> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity and it is fast
[15:04] <ThePendulum> mzaza: It's an interface that requires a 2006-era or newer computer to work smoothly, but it shouldn't be much slower than Windows 8, really. At least not for what I've experienced.
[15:04] <ThePendulum> mzaza: Not regarding Unity 2D, btw
[15:05] <ryanlee> In relation to my question earlier does anyone know of any issues installing Ubuntu 12.10/13.04 on machines sporting AMD A-series procs or onboard graphics (like Radeon series)?  Keep dropping me into buysbox, 12.04 installs okay though.
[15:05] <Guest22217> Screedo:
[15:06] <mzaza> ThePendulum: I never used Windows since XP, but since I got a new laptop I though why not install Windows for my family on my old laptop, which couldn't run Ubuntu 12.04 and had xUbuntu, and i installed Windows 8 it's working very smoothly. While situation used to be the opposite with previous version of Ubuntu and Windows, Ubuntu used to be lighter and smother.
[15:06] <Guest22217> oops
[15:06] <sumit123> hi guys i have ubuntu 12.04 and want to upgrade to 13.04
[15:06] <ThePendulum> mzaza: Did you install the correct graphics drivers for Ubuntu for your laptop? This sometimes makes a significant difference.
[15:06] <ThePendulum> sumit123: Same boat.
[15:06] <sumit123> can i do it without fresh install?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> sumit123  yes, I did
[15:07] <mzaza> ThePendulum: Yes, it was build in video card "Intel".
[15:07] <sumit123> MokeyDust. Thanks. How can you tell me
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> whenever I put in a dvd/cd it tried to mount it twice and says "error this device is already mounted"
[15:07] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: No issues whatsoever? Everything transfers well?
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> besides that it works fine
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> sumit123  in the menu, it's the first option, IIRC
[15:07] <Pinkamena_D> any reason for this?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  no issues whatsoever
[15:08] <netherlands6> Hi please I would like to know if TLP really fix the fan bug? And how to install a tar.bz2 application please?
[15:08] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: How did you update?
[15:09] <Akiva-Mobile> did 13.04 live cd get raid support?
[15:09] <netherlands6> apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  with live usb stick, selected the first (or second?)  option : upgrade
[15:10] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Alright. Hopefully it's a little more stable than the betas. For some reason, it didn't feel well.
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  it was the beta
[15:10] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Hm. Well, I installed the betas a few days ago and I had multiple issues.
[15:10] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Are you running 13.04 right now?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  yes, since about 2 weeks or so
[15:11] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: What I really hate is that compizconfig no longer shows the "Window Rules" option, i.e. to make windows stick to your current workspace. Is it gone for you too?
[15:11] <ClientAlive> I'm having a problem with a thumb drive being write protected (so I can't run an app I need to on it). It was partitioned with fdisk, one large partition, type c (W95 FAT32 (LBA)) and was formatted with mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  dunno, i'm not 'très' into compiz
[15:12] <ClientAlive> is there some way to take away the write protection??
[15:12] <soulflare3> ClientAlive, is it an empty drive?
[15:12] <ClientAlive> soulflare3: yes
[15:13] <netherlands6> ya me too was running 13.04 since 2 weeks the only major issue I have see was the fan running to the max but I have install TLP hope it correct the bug
[15:14] <netherlands6> right fan 135000 RPM is it normal?
[15:15] <syntroPi> 135 kHz is unhearable :p
[15:15] <LoonyT> running ubuntu dual boot with windows 7, is there a way to be able to start this ubuntu installation withn a VM in windows and still keep it so I can boot to it native on the laptop as well
[15:15] <burg> hello. i just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 with do-release-upgrade and now ubuntu doesn't start anymore
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> burg  what happens when you try?
[15:17] <ubuntunewb> can anyone help me, something called confiz is taking 40-50% of my cpu
[15:17] <syntroPi> burg maybe you can spot the problem from tty1   crtl alt f1
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> burg: #ubuntu+1 for Raring support
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> oh its out
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> my mistake
[15:17] <ubuntunewb> Does anyone know why confiz takes up so much of my cpu? I have a decent cpu
[15:17] <burg> MonkeyDust: one moment, i will post a screenshot
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewb: what video chip do you use?
[15:17] <LucidGuy> LVM questions.  Need to grow a pv/lv on a logical partition (which is maxed out already).  I first want to grow the logical partition first.  The disk is a virtual and already grown.  Do I not then simply delete the logical partition, then extended partition.. then recreate them both using defaults?  Reboot.. and proceed to pvresize etc..And is it recommended I do this via a liveCD?
[15:18] <ubuntunewb> I use ati 7850
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewb: do you have a hybrid video chip?
[15:18] <ubuntunewb> radeon
[15:18] <burg> syntroPi: at what moment should i press ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[15:18] <ubuntunewb> my cpu is fx-8150
[15:19] <netherlands6> reinstall it with a dvd the cleanest way, it happen to me lot of time when I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and 11.04 to 11.10 and 12.04 to 10.10 so for the 13.04 I reinstall with the dvd and it work on the first start and restart
[15:19] <syntroPi> burg, ctrl alt f1 brings up the tty1 login prompt and gives you a terminal if that is even possible with your problem. maybe you can further investigate from there where it hangs?
[15:19] <ubuntunewb> I am just getting general lag when I move windows around and in my processes compiz is using up to 50% of my cpu so I imagine that is the problem.
[15:20] <moppers> is there a list of the kernel versions in each ubu release?
[15:21] <installgentoo> yea on the wiki
[15:21] <netherlands6> 13.04 using 3.8 familly
[15:21] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: uhhmmmm, that doesnt sound right
[15:21] <syntroPi> 3.8.0-19-generic
[15:21] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: compiz should work smoothly on a 2007 computer with integrated graphics
[15:21] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: you seem to have significantly better stats than that
[15:22] <burg> MonkeyDust: http://s7.postimg.org/karx7gewa/ubuntu.jpg - this is what it tells
[15:22] <ubuntunewb> what can I do then?
[15:22] <ubuntunewb> ya I have a good comp
[15:22] <moppers> if anyone can give me the kernel version for 12.04 and 12.10 i'd be grateful
[15:22] <ubuntunewb> First time ubuntu guy and I have a ssd 256 too so it should be fast
[15:22] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: do you have the proprietary drivers?
[15:22] <netherlands6> moppers 3.4 and 3.6
[15:22] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: oh yah, i have an intel ssd, it gives me a 7 second boot up
[15:23] <ubuntunewb> no
[15:23] <moppers> 12.04 has 3.2?
[15:23] <ubuntunewb> I have the drivers from here
[15:23] <PoolShark_> is there a good real-time versioning backup utility available for ubuntu in the repositories?
[15:23] <ubuntunewb> should I use the proprietary drivers?
[15:23] <K1lleD> 12.04.2 is with 3.6
[15:23] <K1lleD> 12.04.1 is with 3.2
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb: tbh, i have learnt to hate both nvidia and ati, intel tends to give me the best performance
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> which is silly
[15:23] <moppers> 12.10 seems to say 3.5
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb yes
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> use the proprietary drivers
[15:23] <burg> http://s7.postimg.org/karx7gewa/ubuntu.jpg - so does anybody have any idea regarding this error?
[15:23] <minas> When I double click an executable file (script) I don't get promted to run it or display it. Why?
[15:23] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> burg  never seen it, sorry
[15:24] <ubuntunewb> im using 10.04
[15:24] <ubuntunewb> 13.04
[15:25] <netherlands6> 8.04 and 10.04 where my favorites 13.04 look good also
[15:25] <syntroPi> minas, chmod +x
[15:25] <ubuntunewb> i just think this is supposed to run well on slow machines but I have a pretty decent rig
[15:25] <ubuntunewb> and I am having trouble so I figure I am doing somethign wrong
[15:25] <minas> syntroPi, it is +x
[15:25] <moppers> lucid is the last one that works on dinoputers with terribad VGA
[15:25] <count0nz__> !isitout
[15:25] <syntroPi> minas is it .sh extension?
[15:25] <minas> syntroPi, yes
[15:26] <count0nz__> wohoo
[15:26] <genii-around> minas: Possibly because it doesn't have a shebang either for the first line, which would tell it what to use to run
[15:26] <moppers> ubuntunewb, i would look in software updater, then the 4th tab shows drivers
[15:26] <minas> genii-around, it has: #!/bin/bash
[15:26] <ubuntunewb> I see the drivers
[15:26] <ubuntunewb> do I install both or the bottom one?
[15:26] <genii-around> minas: Ok, that part's fine then.
[15:26] <Akiva-Mobile> ubuntunewb sorry helping someone else, lets see
[15:26] <ubuntunewb> there are 2 propietary ones
[15:27] <netherlands6> please if no one know about TLP, How to install an tar.bz2 applications
[15:27] <minas> genii-around, in 12.10 it worked. I had the option to display it or run it. When I upgraded to 13.04 it displays it without asking me
[15:27] <chriscs62> I downloaded the .iso file of Ubuntu 13.04 some time ago and have been using zsync every week to update it.  On my amd desktop it works fine.
[15:29] <LinDol> have a goodnight ^.~ -- i m in South korea
[15:29] <netherlands6> moppers do you know what package missing when I try to install AMD radeon 13.01 drivers
[15:30] <syntroPi> minas, i think this is because of the new nautilus. nemo from cinnamon still asks like before
[15:31] <angio> ciao
[15:31] <angio> !list
[15:31] <CarlFK> in terminal shell, ctrl-shift-V is Paste.  I need to do lots of pasting.   how can I assigning something like F12 to Paste?
[15:31] <minas> syntroPi, oh, is this a nautilus thing?? Is it a bug or is it intented?
[15:31] <angio> !paste
[15:32] <Guest75171> Question: I logged into an SSH session on one computer and started compiling an application, now when I SSH back into the same machine and see the output/same screen as the 1st session?
[15:32] <CarlFK> Guest75171: you can't set this up after the fact, but there are a few ways, like the command screen
[15:33] <syntroPi> minas,  well that depends: i think its because of the gnome3 politics with which i dont agree in some points: so its a "bug"  and a "feature" but i guess its intended from them
[15:33] <Guest75171> so I cannot see the output?
[15:33] <Guest75171> is there anyway I can tell the compile has completed?
[15:33] <CarlFK> Guest75171: is your first ssh connection still active?
[15:34] <Guest75171> yes
[15:34] <Guest75171> I assume so
[15:34] <_0xDE1337> Guest75171, Were you using screen or tmux?
[15:34] <CarlFK> Guest75171: for what you describe, I would run top and see if the compiler is still using the cpu
[15:34] <Guest75171> I was using putty
[15:35] <minas> syntroPi, I found it! I just had to change a preference in nautilus :)
[15:35] <minas> syntroPi, it sucks though that they changed the default behaviour
[15:35] <CarlFK> Guest75171: what you are asking for... lots of us want every so often.   if there was a way, someone would have figured it out.  the way is:  know you want it before you start the task
[15:36] <Guest75171> I see, thank you- I just thought it might be possible... hmm
[15:36] <syntroPi> minas yeah the mint ppl forked it to preserve some functionality in nemo...
[15:36] <Guest75171> is there any other way to check if the compiler completed other then checking top?
[15:36] <moppers> Guest75171, list processes, grep it for gcc?
[15:37] <_0xDE1337> Guest75171, Attempt to run what you were compiling?
[15:37] <Guest75171> it doesn't seem to be in top/or in the processes
[15:37] <Guest75171> is there a log the compiler creates on error?
[15:37] <moppers> Guest75171, "ps aux | grep gcc" or your username insead of gcc, whatever
[15:38] <OverSpeed301> Hi all ! I have some problems with my wireless driver on Linux Mint 14 (same as ubuntu). The system apparently don't recognize my wireless card (lspci | grep net returns only the Ethernet controller) ... Any ideas ?
[15:38] <CarlFK> Guest75171: hopefully your compile uses make.  if so, run make.
[15:38] <DJones> !mint | OverSpeed301
[15:39] <hl2> http://url9.de/BQW
[15:39] <syntroPi> OverSpeed301, watch on dmesg (if usb when you just plugged it in
[15:39] <CarlFK> i should try to re-run whatever is needed: either nothing (success!) or re-run whatever failed to create it's output file
[15:39] <syntroPi> OverSpeed301, also try lsusb
[15:39] <xrfang> hello, anyone using vmware-view-client? it is said to be in software center, but not. where can I download that for ubuntu please
[15:40] <CarlFK> Guest75171:  (repeat)  it should try to re-run whatever is needed: either nothing (success!) or re-run whatever failed to create it's output file
[15:41] <OverSpeed301> syntroPi, it's not usb, this is a wireless card in the laptop itself (laptop)
[15:41] <syntroPi> OverSpeed301, still can use usb internally so try lsusb
[15:42] <CarlFK> OverSpeed301: like lspci shows what is hooked to the usb buss of your laptop, but your laptop has no pci slots
[15:42] <simpleirc1> is it common to have unreliable sound issues with skype and pulseaudio (ubuntu 12.10)
[15:43] <neurotus> [18:38:44] Warning: Hidden file found: /dev/.initramfs: symbolic link to `/run/initramfs' | rkhunter gave this out ? how bad might this be ?
[15:43] <OverSpeed301> CarlFK syntroPi > Oh, i see! I will try lsusb
[15:43]  * Lintasan fades away.. [log:on]
[15:44] <zvacet> simpleirc1: it is not common but you can run into issues
[15:44] <CarlFK> simpleirc1: common.. sure.  likely 100's of people a week have that problem :)  which tells us nothing.   best to just dive in and try to describe your problem,  with a close source app that is owned by a not so friendly company
[15:45] <nascentmind> Hi. I am getting a directory does not exist inside the chroot when I am schrooting to a directory. How can I fix this?
[15:45] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone been able to get Skype installed in 13.04?
[15:46] <steve_fi> SuperDefenderX, installed yes, but there is a problem with the proprietary nvidia/amd drivers (or something else) that causes it to crash upon starting
[15:46] <steve_fi> SuperDefenderX, I haven't tried it yet, but I have seen this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:46] <SuperDefenderX> OH! The newest Nvidia drivers don't effect it. I totally forgot about that. Thanks.
[15:47] <simpleirc1> just out of curiosity has anyone ever heard of an open source client that can communicate with skype. is this even allowed?
[15:47] <syntroPi> CarlFK, well pci is a interchip communication proto so laptops use it a lot internally
[15:47] <bittintop> my wifi card works under Ubuntu on my laptop now, think i should save some files from the Windows partion and reinstall it :)
[15:47] <steve_fi> I have an issue where I can't get my PC to boot with any of the newer nvidia proprietary drivers (i am stuck on 304), without having to boot my pc with acpi=off
[15:48] <steve_fi> but if I do that, my sound stops working, so I am in a bit of a catch-22
[15:48] <genii-around> simpleirc1: Used to be able to call skype from gizmo but I don't know if you still can
[15:48] <torva> Apologies to come here on today of all days, but I can't find the torrents for the life of me... Can someone please point me in the right direction?
[15:49] <SonikkuAmerica> genii-around: Isn't there still a Pidgin plugin?
[15:49] <SonikkuAmerica> torva: For Ubuntu?
[15:49] <DJones> !torrents | torva
[15:49] <syntroPi> torva, http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[15:49] <torva> Thanks DJones syntroPi
[15:50] <Guest75171> CarlFK: thank you, ill try that
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads <<< is another link
[15:50] <bittin> my wifi card on my laptop works under GNU/Linux now lets kill the Windows partition :p
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> torva: ^^
[15:50] <crack> sleep,Goodbye！
[15:52] <DJRWolf> Happy 13.04 launch day!:)
[15:52] <seedymac> Noob question, I have the beta of 13.04, what do I need to do to bring put to release?
[15:52] <SonikkuAmerica> DJRWolf: You too!
[15:52] <SonikkuAmerica> seedymac: An Internet connection.
[15:53] <SonikkuAmerica> seedymac: That's it - it should automatically throw you into the release.
[15:53] <UserError1> are there any lighter wifi mangers than network-manager-gnome and wicd-gtk?
[15:53] <simpleirc1> What is that series commands that semi-securly reboots in emergency. it sysreq and the letter reisub or something, but what are the other buttons?
[15:53] <pagios> how can i connect to my wpa2 wireless network from command line each time my system boots up?
[15:53] <seedymac> Sonderblade: So just keep up with the upgrade, I don't have to run do-release again?
[15:54] <UserError1> pagios xinitrc
[15:54] <pagios> how can i connect first :)
[15:54] <seedymac> soulofpeace: Sorry dude
[15:54] <pagios> i am using wpa_cli but i need to automate it
[15:55] <UserError1> there are directions all over google
[15:55] <UserError1> need to start with ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:55] <seedymac> Thank u all for the help!
[15:55] <mundungus> is it possible to have repositories of newer releases, on old releases?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  it's called backports
[15:56] <adrenalink> My Ubuntu 10.04 loop in login window. Maybe it's a problem with gdm. Can anyone say to me which should be the owner of /var/lib/gdm folder?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> UserError1: wicd-ncurses   is cli
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> adrenalink: I'd assume root.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> adrenalink: Lucid is EOL in a matter of days (if not already) I suggest you upgrade soon
[15:57] <mundungus> MonkeyDust , so its possible??
[15:57] <UserError1> i'm looking for a graphical manager that is lighter than network manager or wicd
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> UserError1: lighter in what way?
[15:57] <UserError1> dep
[15:57] <UserError1> s
[15:57] <UserError1> and ram usage
[15:57] <UserError1> less features is fine
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  yes
[15:58] <UserError1> this is for an arm stick
[15:58] <adrenalink> SonikkuAmerica it says to me gdm.  (I have 13.04 with Unity.)
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !lightdm | adrenalink
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !info lightdm | adrenalink
[15:59] <Inoki> Hiya all, I just wanted to congratulate the Ubuntu team on yet another successful release :)
[15:59] <mundungus> Thank you. I am loving the older releases, specifically Maverick. If i can access packages  of newer releases, what would be the reason of upgrading?
[15:59] <UserError1> mund... security
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  a reason would be, that Maverick is no longer supported
[16:00] <adrenalink> ActionParsnip: My problem arises with a packet update (i think). However I need this ubuntu version. I am afraid to upgrade (i prefer formatting)
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> mundungus  as in "dead"
[16:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Inoki: The community mainly sees your use of Ubuntu as thanks for its work. But you're welcome.
[16:00] <adrenalink> ubottu: i tried also kdm, but the problem remains...
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> mundungus: support
[16:01] <mundungus> Support?  whats wrong with that?  I recently installed 10.10 and its long being "dead" but i am using it as if it was released yesterday.. i get updates ofcos, whatelse is left?
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> mundungus: Nothing. That's what's left.
[16:02] <UserError1> security
[16:02] <marcusk> Security patches are usually important
[16:02] <Rand0m_NickName> Greetings!
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> adrenalink: I'd say an upgrade to 12.04 LTS is in order. Open a terminal and type [ do-release-upgrade ].
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Rand0m_NickName: Yp
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> mundungus: if you dislike Unity, then install Xubuntu which is just as supported as Ubuntu and use XFCE, which is similar to the old style Gnome desktop and GTK based, so you can install Gnome based apps with few deps
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> *Yo
[16:03] <UserError1> mundungus is going to get owned by some metasploit kiddie
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> O-o
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> *O_o
[16:03] <UserError1> spamming ranges like it's going out of style
[16:03] <GeorgeJ> Yello folks!
[16:03] <bonzi> hello, is there anyone else who can't use skype on 13.04?
[16:04] <SonikkuAmerica> bonzi: I have no problems with Skype; what's the issue? Does it not start?
[16:04] <GeorgeJ> What's the recommended way of building a deb for Ubuntu? Does it differ from Debian? Is using a tool recommended?
[16:04] <iLogical> !upgrade
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: look into checkinstall :)
[16:04] <netherlands6> I just done install the i386 version of skype 4.1 it work fine
[16:05] <Marlinc> Where do I need to ask questions related to the sync menu?
[16:05] <bonzi> SonikkuAmerica: If I launch it from terminal it outputs Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:05] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[16:05] <carpenoctem> Help, can't get cgi-bin progs to run under apache2 on 12.04. Permissions checked. .conf checked.... any ideas?
[16:05] <mundungus> yes, i will try it . thank you
[16:05] <AaronMT> Hi, Chrome doesnt install in 13.0.4
[16:05] <marcusk> carpenoctem: What does it say in the error log?
[16:05] <culpn8r> everytime i type 'cd' in bash it crashes any idea what would cause this?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> AaronMT  try chromium-browser, instead
[16:06] <iLogical> there is no new version to download
[16:06] <iLogical> i mean
[16:06] <iLogical> upgrade
[16:06] <iLogical> on the update manager
[16:06] <FloodBot1> iLogical: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <carpenoctem> marcusk: where is the apache2 error log located?
[16:06] <Grape_hunter> i can't create any more partiitons if i have 4 partitions already?
[16:07] <culpn8r> nvm found it thanks!
[16:07] <marcusk> carpenoctem: Usually /var/log/apache2, but it depends on your configuration.
[16:07] <lmat> When I run    sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin    , chromium sees the java plugin and everything seems to work just fine.
[16:07] <smithw> Hello. I have an nvidia optimus system which was working perfectly with bumblebee, but the update apparently reinstalled the nvidia-driver with no regard to bumblebee/the intel driver. how do I recover the intel driver?
[16:07] <lmat> However, when I run    sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin:i386    , chromium doesn't see the plugin and everything does not work just fine!
[16:09] <GeorgeJ> ActionParsnip: I'm not using make
[16:09] <iLogical> !upgrade
[16:09] <lmat> perhaps I need the 32-bit chromium......
[16:10] <iLogical> there's no upgrade to be done according to update-manager, how do I upgrade?
[16:10] <DJRWolf> feature I would like to see..on install a menu that gives you options on what desktop UI (Unity, Gnome 3, LXDE, Cinnamon) to default to with description and screen shots
[16:11] <sonofzeus> Hi There
[16:11] <lmat> doh.   "chromium-browser:i386 depends on xdg-utils:i386 but it is not installable" :(
[16:11] <Eit8> I don't get why everytime I do an ubuntu upgrade everything get screwed, I've been using ubuntu since 8.04 or near
[16:11] <UserError1> when in doubt, zero it out
[16:11] <n-iCe> I'm trying to run wifi direct to share internet with my phone, http://pastebin.com/ie5wjZ1X but my device is not able to detect my pc, intel card, which is supposed to be detected, wlan0 is the one I want to share from
[16:12] <carpenoctem> aha, it says permission denied.... but I swear I cmod 755'd everything!
[16:12] <sonofzeus> Hi There
[16:12] <sonofzeus> cd /usr/src svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/misc][7]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/misc svn co [https://xbtt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xbtt/trunk/xbt/Tracker][8]{: target=”_blank”} xbt/Tracker
[16:12] <GeorgeJ> Is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[16:12] <sonofzeus> why isnt this workin in terminal?
[16:12] <Pici> iLogical: What release of Ubuntu are you running currently?
[16:12] <sam113101> wooooooooooooooo
[16:12] <AaronMT> Skype doesnt install in 13.04
[16:13] <sam113101> 13.04 was fast for the time it was working
[16:13] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[16:13] <iLogical> Pici, Description:	Ubuntu-Secure-Remix 12.10 30nov2012
[16:13] <bazhang> sonofzeus, is that opentracker?
[16:14] <carpenoctem> skype is malware anyway....
[16:14] <sonofzeus> nah
[16:14] <meerkat> carpenoctem, how so?
[16:14] <iLogical> Pici, i want to have a smooth stable system
[16:14] <sonofzeus> Why is skype malware lol
[16:14] <GeorgeJ> !dev
[16:14] <iLogical> not a kernel upgrade every few days
[16:14] <syntroPi> AaronMT, whats the problem?
[16:15] <syntroPi> AaronMT, i installed it from the partner repos without any hickups on a clean x64 raring
[16:15] <Pici> iLogical: We cannot provide support for unofficial variants of Ubuntu.  You should reach out the support resources for that version for upgrade info.
[16:15] <lmat> so if xdg-utils is already installed, I can't install xdg-utils:i386?
[16:15] <Guest97581> Has Netflix (movies online) relented and made themselves available for Linux yet?
[16:15] <iLogical> Pici, it was the only thing i could get working with uefi
[16:15] <carpenoctem> Besides the built in surveillance, at least on windows Skype is known to do some really funny DLL hooking on par with rootkits. It also opens up another security hole avenue (bitcoin mining worm, etc)
[16:16] <h00k> Guest97581: not yet, no, but there are unofficial methods of getting it to work, apparently.
[16:16] <h00k> !ot
[16:16] <Guest97581> umm some say those unofficial methods may be detrimental to your system. Do you know?
[16:17] <ybon> AaronMT: see maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327
[16:17] <DJones> !netflix | Guest97581
[16:17] <carpenoctem> Let me guess they don't provide source code for skype, so you are just trusting the binary... which sorta defeats the purpose of nix in the first place!
[16:17] <p0wn3d> Guest97581: They have a workaround for using wine
[16:18] <aneks> what would be a better option, oppenoffice or libre office?
[16:18] <carpenoctem> Jitsi would be the way to go.
[16:19] <DJones> aneks: LibreOffice is installed by default and is officially supported here, so, that would suggest that will better option
[16:19] <carpenoctem> LibreOffice is better imo. (the good devs from openoffice split to make libre fyi)
[16:20] <aneks> just like I thought :)
[16:20] <jakey1> hi, if i amke an iso image of my window 7 using the backup function, can I mount that image in ubuntu?
[16:20] <jakey1> or in virtual box?
[16:20] <Guest97581> Using "wine" means that someone smart learned how to work around in the terminal with commands and make things work, right? Does anyone do this for netflix? and "unofficial" means Linux hasn't said it's a safe thing yet, right?
[16:21] <kostkon> Guest97581, they offer a package that setups everything for you
[16:21] <h00k> Guest97581: you can read more about it at that page linked above
[16:21] <kostkon> Guest97581, then you just need click on the netflix icon ;)
[16:21] <Guest97581> Who offers a package for the setup?
[16:21] <DJones> Guest97581: See the link the bot gave you a couple of minutes ago
[16:21] <kostkon> !netflix | Guest97581
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: not sure about "safe"
[16:22] <oscar> Can anyone see my IP address ? o_o
[16:22] <jakey1> anyone?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: in this scenario, it doesn't really apply, there is a PPA with a modified wine to make it work
[16:22] <h00k> oscar: consider getting a cloak
[16:22] <h00k> !cloak | oscar
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> oscar: I can
[16:22] <oscar> Shit lmao, I'm fixing this ASAP!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: mount can mount ISO files, yes
[16:23] <kostkon> Guest97581, it creates a separate wine bottle for it, so it doesn't even touch your default wine installation.
[16:23] <h00k> oscar: keep the language appropriate, please
[16:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> watch your language, oscar
[16:23] <Guest97581> Is "PPA" safe to use? i just set up Xubuntu about a month ago and am new at this.
[16:23] <jakey1> ActionParsnip, does it work with windows then
[16:23] <oscar> Sorry.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: its an unofficial package, so technically not
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: no idea
[16:23] <jakey1> if I make a backup image can I run it on ubuntu
[16:23] <h00k> Guest97581: they may be, but anyone who administers that PPA can, for instance, put some malicious package to install in there.
[16:23] <h00k> ubottu: tell Guest97581 about ppa
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest97581: but you'd see stuff all over the web saying to not use it if it was bad
[16:24] <aniket> q=/exit
[16:24] <deadweasel> Dr_willis: figured out my issue...  needed to remove/backup .Xauthority, reinstall Xorg, reboot
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: you could use the ISO to restore the OS in virtualox and make it boot there (maybe)
[16:26] <xro> Hi, i have a maybe stupid question... I just upgrade to 13.04... I can't figure out how to set multiple screen (changing with ctrl alt ->)... Where is this setting?
[16:26] <DJRWolf> besides System76, are there any OEM's for Ubuntu/Linux computers?
[16:26] <ventura> hi... does any one know if the disk encryption on 13.04 is bugged?
[16:26] <torva> Does anyone have a flash drive I could borrow, or a blank DVD?
[16:26] <Korekame> Dell
[16:26] <Guest97581> humm kind of scary to launch out on that one. Would you guys?
[16:26] <Korekame> @DJRWolf Dell sells ubuntu computers, look up Alienware X51
[16:26] <DJRWolf> Korekame, last time I looked Dell has 11.10
[16:27] <Korekame> You didn't specify current Ubuntu
[16:27] <Korekame> Sorry
[16:27] <DJRWolf> korekame, was only option
[16:27] <alecb> lxappearance is not generating a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 for me (or as far as I can tell, any other file) anyone know what's up?
[16:28] <Korekame> DJRWolf, if you want current ubuntu on your system, System76 is pretty much the only way to go, other places do ship computers with Ubuntu, but it tends to be older out of date releases, I'm surprised though, that Dell doesn't use 12.04
[16:28] <ventura> @all: hi here... does any one know if the disk encryption on 13.04 is bugged?
[16:28] <h00k> ventura: You can check !launchpad for any bug reports. Are you experiencing issues?
[16:28] <ventura> the prompt is not show at normal boot, only recovery mode
[16:28] <ventura> h00k^
[16:29] <ventura> h00k: but, if i type the key, the boot proceeds.
[16:29] <Eit8> after upgrade, default session (unity) doesn't load the windows manager
[16:29] <Eit8> gnome session works
[16:30] <DJRWolf> Korkame, I remember having come across some other OEM's I just don't remember who they were and where I found them
[16:30] <netherlands6> I have an issue on ubuntu my microphone doesnt work even on  skype or google talk but I heard and see the other clearly how to fix it please
[16:30] <UserError1> is there a smaller network manager than wicd-gtk or network-manager-gnome?
[16:31] <torva> UserError1: Do you need wireless?
[16:31] <UserError1> yes
[16:31] <Kircle> I notice in 13.04 the top panel uses blurring. Is there anyway to do such with the launcher instead of transparency?
[16:31] <LorenzoMoney> I have a lenovo L-512 and want to put ubunto or mint on it.  Hopefully someone else can answer. Have you tried searching the Internet for alternative network managers?
[16:31] <UserError1> yes :P
[16:31] <torva> n-iCe: I'm not sure what you mean
[16:32] <n-iCe> torva: in order to share internet using wifi p2p(wifi direct) I need to set my card to wifi direct or p2p like a monitor mode
[16:34] <LorenzoMoney>  I have a lenovo L-512 and want to put ubunto or mint on it. Which is better? what are the differences?
[16:35] <sakang> OMG saucy repo is up
[16:35] <OerHeks> LorenzoMoney, Ubuntu, mint is not supported here.
[16:35] <Nickwiz_> Where do I find when a release is going to be pushed? Need this release, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/7.5-0ubuntu3, Have: 7.5-0ubuntu2 as of update on 17 oct 2012.
[16:35] <DJones> LorenzoMoney: You're asking in the UBuntu support channels....... But, try them both and see which you find best for your personal requirements
[16:35] <Nickwiz_> Wondering if I should install it manually or wait for distro upgrade.
[16:35] <Grape_hunter> wubi installer crashes at 99% :\
[16:37] <PatrickC> ugh, i installed ubuntu-desktop on an ubuntu server, now i want to remove it
[16:38] <PatrickC> tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <PatrickC> still installed after reboot
[16:38] <vanishing> apt-get purge?
[16:38] <PatrickC> tried
[16:38] <PatrickC> says it's not installed
[16:38] <vanishing> then it is not installed...
[16:38] <h00k> PatrickC: That will just remove the metapackage, I know there's a way to purge all the stuffs it installs, but I don't have it offhand
[16:40] <vanishing> PatrickC: not sure if this is still relevant....but maybe give it a go...cautiously.
[16:40] <vanishing> http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/completely-remove-ubuntu-desktop/
[16:40] <sakang> PatrickC: just re-install server. your best option
[16:40] <PatrickC> i'll try that.. if i have to re-install i will
[16:40] <UserError1> sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[16:41] <UserError1> boom
[16:41] <Eit8> ~after upgrade can't enable unity from ccsm, any idea ?
[16:42] <rickborn> upgrade complete, rebooting, wish me luck
[16:43] <darkmutt> hi guys got a question how would i rollback proprietary driers when they wont display anymore??
[16:46] <syntroPi> darkmutt, maybe the old deb is still in  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:47] <lmat> I'm having the most difficult time installing...
[16:48] <shankstaBytes> do i need to do anything special to get 13.04 installed
[16:48] <shankstaBytes> im on 12.04
[16:48] <Pici> shankstaBytes: you need to upgrade to 12.10 and then 13.04
[16:48] <lmat> sudo apt-get autoremove     returns "Teh following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:48] <Eit8> shankstaBytes: you need luck
[16:48] <lmat> firefox-globalmenu:i386: depends: firefox:i386 ... but it is not installed"
[16:48] <i-make-robots> uh…. hi?  I just ran the latest patch upgrades for ubuntu 12.04.1 and now i can't log into mysql as root.
[16:48] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: I'd advise to do a fresh install
[16:48] <Akiva-Mobile> upgrading never works out well for me
[16:49] <jadus> hi guys, i have a problem with 13.04 x64 and fglrx from amd pages
[16:49] <shankstaBytes> Why?
[16:49] <ventura> h00k: it was already happenning on 12.10 http://goo.gl/XiKfX
[16:49] <shankstaBytes> upgrades always work with Ubuntu
[16:49] <jadus> X crashes on Failed to create screen resources
[16:49] <jadus> any help?
[16:49] <Jeena_> hm something got weird with webkit qt on 13.04 everything which is a fat font stoped to be crispy https://jeena.net/t/qt-bold.png <- left firefox, right my own PyQt browser showing Facebook which uses Lucida Grande
[16:49] <Akiva-Mobile> i-make-robots: do you normally give your root database access?
[16:49] <ventura> h00k: i am installing the nvida driver right now, i hope it works... thx]
[16:49] <shankstaBytes> Your suppose to be able to upgrade from Long Term Support Release to LTS
[16:49] <lmat> so, sudo apt-get install firefox:i386   then dpkg error processing ... firefox... .deb.   trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package firefoxinstaller
[16:50] <Akiva-Mobile> shouldnt it be like, sudo -u mysqluser mysql
[16:50] <jadus> fglrxinfo returns Unable to open display
[16:50] <i-make-robots> Akiva-Mobile: it's a private server inside my network with nothing important.
[16:50] <DJones> shankstaBytes: 13.04 isn't LTS
[16:50] <i-make-robots> also: not the point.
[16:50] <stat_vi> lmat: try `apt-get -f install`
[16:50] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: supposed to is right, and it works enough to well work. Just it produces weirdness sometimes
[16:50] <hapster> hi. just upgraded to 13.04. I have an optimus laptop. optirun doesn't seem to work anymore. Anyone having similar troubles?
[16:51] <i-make-robots> Akiva-Mobile: the mysql root user, not the ubuntu root user.
[16:51] <Akiva-Mobile> i-make-robots: ah, my mistake :P
[16:51] <lmat> stat_vi: right, no good.
[16:51] <Akiva-Mobile> i-make-robots: That is a strange bug then
[16:51] <lmat> errors were encountered while processing ... firefox ... .deb
[16:51] <Akiva-Mobile> i run postgres, havnt noticed anything myself
[16:52] <lmat> perhaps the package was corrupt...
[16:52] <shankstaBytes> oh i thought 13.04 was LTS
[16:53] <DJones> shankstaBytes: Every 2 years, so 12.04 then 14.04
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> ill just stick to LTS
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> unless it is alot better
[16:53] <unnn-x> st
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> tests dont make it seem much better
[16:53] <shankstaBytes> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1304_12042&num=5
[16:54] <UserError1> Don't you want Saucy Salamander?
[16:54] <talsamon_> hello, i don't no where i should ask, i have on one hd lubuntu on the another freebsd, how can i tell grub, to boot freebsd
[16:54] <DJones> shankstaBytes: You're best bet is to run a live usb version and try it yourself
[16:55] <lmat> stat_vi: whoa! I guess I fixed it.
[16:55] <TheEmpath> umm how do i check if a directory exists via a bash script?  i'm getting a mind-numbing error with something so simple https://gist.github.com/CodeOtter/c3c43f590b94adbba0a2
[16:55] <stat_vi> lmat: gz ;)
[16:55] <lmat> stat_vi: The message had been.. "package {a} has unmet dependencies" so I apt-get remove {a}
[16:55] <lmat> stat_vi: it didn't complain that time!
[16:55] <lmat> wow
[16:55] <shankstaBytes> Djones a live usb version isn't going to give me any speed indicators though
[16:57] <wdonkey> good afternoon great people of the Freenode realm
[16:57] <wdonkey> what a nice day it is to do a fresh ubuntu installation
[16:58] <wdonkey> i would like to have some pointers on how to partition my hdd/ssd for dualbooting
[16:58] <shankstaBytes> i dont understand how people can do fresh installs so often
[16:58] <wdonkey> anybody feels up to the task ?
[16:58] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey you just run the installer
[16:58] <UserError1> shank, because ubuntu is designed to create bloat
[16:59] <shankstaBytes> ?
[16:59] <zanus> psst
[16:59] <zanus> say my name really slowly while pretending you're German
[16:59] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 like what
[16:59] <wdonkey> people do fresh installs because they are rich enough to buy new computers
[16:59] <wdonkey> w00t
[16:59] <UserError1> even the way packages are installed by the three main methods, the appstore, synaptic, and terminal
[16:59] <UserError1> have three different presets in ubuntu
[17:00] <UserError1> for recommends and suggests
[17:00] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 whats is "recommends and suggests"
[17:00] <Pici> UserError1: No they don't.
[17:00] <UserError1> oh really
[17:00] <UserError1> check this Pici
[17:00] <UserError1> i literally just did this
[17:00] <wdonkey> shankstaBytes: i know how to install it, i just want to get the most out of it; should i have my /home on a different partition than my /system ??
[17:00] <Pici> UserError1: Reccomends and Suggests are both stored in the package information itself, which is shared across any tool that uses apt.
[17:00] <UserError1> install bleachbit in each
[17:01] <UserError1> i never said it wasn't
[17:01] <wdonkey> what if i have limited space on a SSD and want to creat a swap partition for using files with windows as well ?
[17:01] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey it really depends what you want to do with /home i would say no it really makes no difference
[17:01] <lmat> okay, I'm unable to install firefox
[17:01] <lmat> sudo apt-get install firefox     fails.
[17:01] <UserError1> you're going to get alot of automagic in pulling in the suggests from the AS and syn
[17:01] <compdoc> anyone using a vnc server for 13.04? vnc4server seems to have issues
[17:01] <lmat> It gets the firefox-globalmenu done, but doesn't get firefox installed.
[17:01] <Pici> UserError1: Don't spread FUD like "ubuntu is designed to create bloat"
[17:01] <UserError1> it is...
[17:01] <wdonkey> ok..
[17:02] <UserError1> and i use it
[17:02] <UserError1> forced deps
[17:02] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey one thing you should do though is make the swap the same size as your memory
[17:02] <UserError1> tell me why Xorg needs radeon on intel ultrabooks shipped with ubuntu
[17:02] <PatrickC> trying to upgrade my (fixed) server, and getting this error... http://screencast.com/t/Xusgvvii9iu
[17:02] <bogor> Will i break my system if i remove zeitgeist package ?
[17:02] <UserError1> *crickets*
[17:02] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 how many kb does that take?
[17:03] <shankstaBytes> :D
[17:03] <UserError1> MB
[17:03] <UserError1> on an SSD that decreases the speed
[17:03] <UserError1> considering the mobile choices ubuntu is making
[17:03] <UserError1> it is counter-productive
[17:03] <shankstaBytes> UserError1 you could always create an installation script to help out all of us :D
[17:03] <UserError1> why do you think ubuntu is frantically working to shrink packages
[17:03] <UserError1> such as lightdm
[17:03] <btorch> does anyone here know a way to find details with in /sys/bus/pci in order to create udev rules ?
[17:03] <UserError1> look at the XFCE deps
[17:03] <UserError1> it's pathetic
[17:04] <OerHeks> UserError1, stop the ranting please.
[17:04] <h00k> UserError1: Do you have any support related questions? If not, feel free to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic or other channel related to your topic.
[17:04] <btorch> right now I use udevadm but it would be nice to be able to search a path and find files I could that info from
[17:04] <UserError1> i'm sitting here compiling my own ubuntu for an ARM stick, having to apt-build everything indep because the deps are insane
[17:04] <jiltdil> 823 mb 12.04??? Need DVD
[17:04] <UserError1> jilt, use the network installer
[17:04] <UserError1> mini iso
[17:04] <Slart> jiltdil: I would go with a usb-stick, so much easier
[17:04] <shankstaBytes> I have a 1TB drive so it doesn't bother me
[17:04] <RyanTG> UserError1: If you're unhappy with Ubuntu just vote with your feet and use another distro.  Gentoo's probably what you're looking for so you can control the dependencies.
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> and another 500GB drive
[17:05] <UserError1> you asked
[17:05] <UserError1> i told
[17:05] <lee> hello. I am trying to set up a server to act as a gateway (with two NICs), eth1 going to the LAN and eth0 going to an ADSL modem. I want ubuntu to do the dialing, so I have set the modem to bridge mode. however when I run pppoeconf, it scans for "access concentrators", finds none, apologises for finding none, and gives up. any suggestions what to do next?
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> but good stuff thanks UserError1
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> I love learning more about ubuntu
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> or linux in general
[17:05] <lmat> YAY! Got firefox installed!
[17:05] <shankstaBytes> I just wish we had a solution to the problem you presented
[17:05] <Akiva-Mobile> shankstaBytes: wait till you learn some command line goodies ; you'll love it:)
[17:06] <lmat> the problem: kubuntu installed a package : kubuntu-firefox-installer  which got in the way of firefox!
[17:06] <UserError1> shank, check out the apt-build package
[17:06] <Akiva-Mobile> hell, i like using the command line 100 times more than programming in c++
[17:06] <zanus> lee:  use an operating system that doesn't require a computer science PhD
[17:06] <zanus> try Windows 8
[17:06] <h00k> !ot
[17:06] <zanus> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[17:06] <GeekDude> Minecraft isn't really working on this new system I set up... Error message pictures: http://imgur.com/a/DeKhQ
[17:06] <shankstaBytes> zanus haha
[17:07] <Addle> I'm trying to rebuild my PPA package for Raring, so I'm using "Copy Packages", selecting my quantal version, destination series "Raring" and "Rebuild the copied sources". It keeps telling me: "qmentat 0.8-1ppa1 in quantal (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)" Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[17:07] <wdonkey> thing is
[17:07] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: did you try yelling at it?
[17:07] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, No, but I might if I can't figure it out soon
[17:07] <bitnumus> hi all, i've just upgraded kernel via repos to 3.5.0-26, and network isnt working. The strange thing is, the only thing that works is IRC, i cant even ping google, no browsers work etc... any ideas?
[17:07] <Slart> GeekDude: minecraft caused that? it works normally if you do other graphics related stuff?
[17:08] <GeekDude> Slart, Yeah. It's java related, I'm pretty sure
[17:08] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: it might be your graphics card overheating
[17:08] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, It's a built-in graphics card. It does this within the first 2 minutes of playing
[17:08] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: that application is just amazingly gpu intensive
[17:08] <Akiva-Mobile> geekdude which card?
[17:08] <wdonkey> shankstaBytes: scenario 1 : laptop has a 24g SSD with 6gb swap space taken and a 500gb HDD (190gb : win8/260gb data)
[17:09] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I don't actually know. I'm using the Sun java (Oracle's java 6)
[17:09] <Slart> GeekDude: I highly doubt java will crash your system like that... something else is broken and minecraft might just be the final straw.. overheating, graphics drivers or something else
[17:09] <h00k> GeekDude: I would consider checking your hardware, CPU and Memory first, they *should't* kernel panic and a lot of times it's hardware related
[17:09] <carpenoctem> apache2 on ubuntu, trying to test a simple cgi, error log says "premature end of script headers"...?
[17:09] <wdonkey> i feel 16gb is quite small for a new OS, can i have the /home stuff being thrown in the 260 gb data partition
[17:09] <GeekDude> h00k, I've run a memtest through 2 passes, so It's probably not the memory
[17:10] <Slart> GeekDude: what kind of graphics hardware do you have?
[17:10] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: no i mean, ati, nvidia?
[17:10] <Akiva-Mobile> intel?
[17:10] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I'll look up the specs
[17:10] <adamk> Clearly radeon, basd on the kernel panic.
[17:10] <Slart> GeekDude: try something like the unigine valley benchmark.. see if that kills the system as well
[17:10] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey swap is used during sleep/when you close the lid of a laptop if you dont have a laptop then it doesn't matter
[17:10] <Taptoula> Hi
[17:11] <shankstaBytes> wdonkey at least that is what people have told me
[17:11] <UserError1> swap is also used for 4k r/w
[17:11] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, According to the internet, my computer model has "ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 Chipset Onboard Video"
[17:11] <UserError1> geekdude that card... can run MC?
[17:11] <GeekDude> Slart, Unigine valley benchmark?
[17:11] <GeekDude> UserError1, With optifine having everything turned down/off
[17:11] <wdonkey> ok shankstaBytes thanks for your help..
[17:12] <Taptoula> Is there anything to do tu upgrade from 13.04beta to final ? Or is an apt-get dist-upgrade sufficient ?
[17:12] <Slart> GeekDude: it's just a graphics intensive demo that is available for linux.. if graphics is the problem I'm pretty sure that will trigger it
[17:12] <adamk> I would guess that it's overheating.
[17:12] <DJones> !final | Taptoula
[17:12] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: I don't know for sure, but for minecraft, that will throw your gpu into overoverdrive for sure
[17:12] <h00k> shankstaBytes: swap is used for transient memory that won't fit in RAM, it uses your hard drive when the memory space is full
[17:12] <Taptoula> Djones : it does answer my question perfectly :) thanks
[17:12] <shankstaBytes> h00k ya i know but nowadays that never happens
[17:13] <GeekDude> Akiva-Mobile, I have it dual booting with windows, should I try running MC on windows instead?
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> I have 16 GIGs of ram on my laptop haha
[17:13] <h00k> shankstaBytes: I would argue that point, it really depends on the application. Anyway, that is what it is used for.
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> ya
[17:13] <Akiva-Mobile> GeekDude: might work, but if it crashes there too, then you would have your answer
[17:13] <Slart> GeekDude: http://unigine.com/  they have a couple of benchmarks.. not sure which ones are available for linux..
[17:13] <mkadin> when I boot the laptop without any external attached, and then plug in my monitor to the HDMI port, the desktop will split between the two monitors. However, if I boot with the external plugged in already, ubuntu doesn't recognize the laptop display at all, any ideas?
[17:13] <Akiva-Mobile> radeon drivers typically are better for windows
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> h00k but most normal applications will work fine within 4 gigs
[17:13] <Akiva-Mobile> but then again, you have to run bloody windows, which sucks
[17:13] <shankstaBytes> easily
[17:14] <Eit8> I'm having problems with compiz and unity after the upgrade, I can't get unity to work even with the ccsm, every time I enable unity it ask me to enable other stuff then it resets
[17:14] <zanuses> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.      He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:14] <FloodBot1> zanuses: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <Akiva-Mobile> eit8 yes, upgrades can be painful
[17:14] <shankstaBytes> sounds like fun
[17:14] <shankstaBytes> I love the bongos
[17:14] <Akiva-Mobile> Eit8: other people "could" help you, but honestly my advice is to never upgrade; always do fresh installs.
[17:15] <h00k> !ot | shankstaBytes
[17:15] <Akiva-Mobile> to which I would say, back  up tyour data now, and do a fresh install