[07:05] <Wizardling> Grandma hobbled to the set, placed one hand on the TV and the other on her arthritic shoulder. Grandpa got up, placed one hand on the set and the other on his crotch.
[07:05] <FirstStrike> !pastebin > Fastburn
[07:05] <whitehorseNtiger> solarce: thanks
[07:05] <Wizardling> Grandma scowled. "What are you doing, you old coot? He said 'heal the sick,' not 'raise the dead!'"
[07:05] <Wizardling> LOL
[07:05] <DanaG> Argh, somehow I screwed up the permission son my home dir.
[07:05] <solarce> Wizardling: AMEN!
[07:05] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone here successfully sync a Treo 650 or Treo 700p in Dapper?
[07:05] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: look at your pms i sent you
[07:05] <solarce> jrattner1: ANSWER: maybe.
[07:05] <DanaG> Does anyone know what they're SUPPOSED to be set to (in chmod 777 format)?
[07:06] <solarce> Fastburn: you've got permissions issues :)
[07:06] <jrattner1> solarce, heheh what do you mean maybe?
[07:06] <hush`> wweasel: version 0.9.19
[07:06] <the_hammer> hey all mepis user here anyone know how to find folders installed from wine programs?
[07:06] <erikgz> okay, pop quiz;  i stop my logging services, cron services, and yet still have this process which WRITES to the hard drive 80 blocks EXACTLY every 5 seconds
[07:06] <bhrobinson> compotatoj, I did not get any from you
[07:06] <solarce> jrattner1: it could be
[07:06] <erikgz> thus preventing my disk from sleeping, killing my battery, etc.
[07:06] <Fastburn> solarce, I figured that, how do I fix it =)
[07:06] <erikgz> what process could this be/?
[07:06] <jrattner1> solarce, so have you had success syncing either of those devices in dapper?
[07:06] <solarce> Fastburn: chmod
[07:06] <the_hammer> id ask in mepis but they banned me for tellin off some punk that was bad mouthin me
[07:06] <wweasel> hush`: you installed it by adding a repository to your sources.list?
[07:06] <hush`> yes
[07:06] <solarce> jrattner1: I own neither, but if you were willing to donate one... :D
[07:07] <hush`> wweasel: yes
[07:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: you can't see my messages
[07:07] <Lard-O-Lad> solarce: It is a streaming rm file, and firefox doesnt like it.  I will get the file from the source and run it through totem though...
[07:07] <erikgz> i'm going to keep asking
[07:07] <wweasel> hush`: THis is odd.
[07:07] <shaigirl67> Hi everyone
[07:07] <solarce> Lard-O-Lad: that will probably work
[07:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: ok i don't think you should be doing it in Section "ServerLayout"
[07:07] <bhrobinson> compototatoj, no... can you see mine?
[07:07] <compotatoj> bhrobinson: i can see yours
[07:07] <DanaG> ...anyone?
[07:07] <Jocko> Has anyone seen evolution just display "Loading" under an exchange account name? It never loads the folders.
[07:07] <solarce> Fastburn: so, sudo chmod 770 /mnt/media
[07:07] <hush`> wweasel: I wish linux had remote assistance, so that you could fix it for me....
[07:08] <the_hammer> anyone help me out or what?
[07:08] <solarce> Fastburn: sudo chgrp -R users /mnt/media
[07:08] <wweasel> hush`: I wish I could help, but I haven't seen that problem and I am not sure how to diagnose it.
[07:08] <Fastburn> solarce: even if it's /media/media?
[07:08] <wweasel> hush`: It actually does have remote assistance.
[07:08] <hush`> wweasel: can we do that
[07:08] <DanaG> No, you have to put the user,gid=users option in fstab.
[07:08] <robert_> can anybody help me?
[07:08] <DanaG> Right?
[07:08] <the_hammer> cna anyone pls help me?
[07:08] <wweasel> hush`: No, we'd need to install it, and I don't know how to fix this problem anyways
[07:08] <the_hammer> can*
[07:08] <solarce> Fastburn: adjust for your path ;)
[07:09] <hush`> wweasel: do u know who would
[07:09] <solarce> the_hammer: you are beyond our help, sorry
[07:09] <solarce> the_hammer: call dr phil
[07:09] <the_hammer> this os is based off of ubuntu
[07:09] <wweasel> hush`: Ask in this channel. Sorry I can't be of more help.
[07:09] <hush`> wweasel: what about uninstalling and reinstalling
[07:09] <FirstStrike> DanaG: chmod 700
[07:09] <the_hammer> oh your funny ya should be a comidian
[07:10] <Fastburn> solarce: chmod worked, chgrp gave mass operation-not-permitted
[07:10] <solarce> the_hammer: where did you tell wine to use as the base for installed applications?
[07:10] <solarce> Fastburn: blah, probably because it's fat32
[07:10] <solarce> Fastburn: try it without the -R
[07:10] <DanaG> FirstStrike: Is that for the files inside, or just for the dir?
[07:10] <solarce> -R is recursive
[07:10] <the_hammer> im not sure all i did was apt-get install and then was told to open a term and wine and point to the file i want to install
[07:11] <wweasel> hush`: You can try that. Try a complete removal of Wine. You don't need to delete your uTorrent.exe file.
[07:11] <the_hammer> wine Desktop bla.exe
[07:11] <Fastburn> Solarce: Same, but with only one line. 'chgrp: changing group of `/media/media': Operation not permitted
[07:11] <Fastburn> '
[07:11] <solarce> I'm not up on the particulars of dealing with a fat32 partition under linux
[07:11] <the_hammer> in term i did this
[07:11] <Fastburn> Erm, BLeah, sorr.y
[07:11] <hush`> how do i remove wine.. just add/remove programs?
[07:11] <FirstStrike> DanaG: directory
[07:11] <wweasel> hush`: Use Synaptic
[07:11] <the_hammer> lol i only have linux not windows
[07:11] <wweasel> hush`: Right click on wine, "Mark For Complete Removal",  Apply
[07:12] <the_hammer> just trying to locate the folder of the prog so i can delete it its excursion
[07:12] <wweasel> hush`: Then I recommend you try following this tutorial http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[07:12] <wweasel> hush`: That's what I did, and it worked perfectly for me.
[07:12] <hush`> wweasel: thanks man i really appreciate your help
[07:12] <stevewillson> hello
[07:12] <solarce> Fastburn: /dev/hda6 /media/stuff vfat rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[07:12] <TSP_X> Hello
[07:13] <hush`> wweasel: eventually I will learn how to use linux - with everybodys help its all slowly making more and more sense to me
[07:13] <solarce> Fastburn: adjust for your path, behold the power of google
[07:13] <wweasel> hush`: np at all. I remember my first few days. I spent all of my first few days trying to get wireless to work :P
[07:13] <stevewillson> am I able to get help installing xemacs here?
[07:13] <Fastburn> Solarce: back to etc?
[07:13] <solarce> stevewillson: yes
[07:13] <solarce> Fastburn: ding ding!
[07:13] <DanaG> Okay, now my gnome panel is b0rked.
[07:13] <MrKeuner> I have Encrypt in the nautilus context menu, however when I right click on a.pgp file I do not get Decrypt option in the context menu. What should I do?
[07:13] <DanaG> How do I get it to the ubuntu default?
[07:13] <solarce> stevewillson: how can I help a fellow emacs user?
[07:13] <TSP_X> Can someone please tell me how can i add amirror as a repo?
[07:13] <wweasel> hush`: Once you have everything set up, it works like a charm. My problem is I'm a tinkerer :P
[07:14] <hush`> tinker?
[07:14] <the_hammer> ahh well ty anyway at least ya answered thats good enough
[07:14] <MrKeuner> !help
[07:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:14] <hush`> I love my install of utorrent in Windows. utorrent is the best
[07:14] <the_hammer> take care
[07:14] <stevewillson> ok, I run the ./configure file in the directory I decompressed the xemacs file to and it gives me a 'panic' message
[07:14] <FirstStrike> DanaG: Define borked.
[07:14] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---i need tod ownloadsmenu debs from here
[07:14] <Lard-O-Lad> wine+utorrent makes me happy
[07:14] <wweasel> hush`: Agreed 100%.  If only it didn't look so ugly, it would be perfect.
[07:15] <Lard-O-Lad> ;)
[07:15] <stevewillson> how do I get it from apt?
[07:15] <FirstStrike> maybe it's because i have 2 gb of ram, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
[07:15] <DanaG> Borked, as in, both panels are at the top, and don't have anything on them/
[07:15] <benx213> azureus runs fine on my system, after upgrading to beta
[07:15] <DanaG> Or have stuff, but random.
[07:15] <Fastburn> Solarce: what was the file again? >> Fstab or something?
[07:15] <stevewillson> I was trying to build it from source
[07:15] <solarce> Fastburn: /etc/fstab
[07:15] <stevewillson> but I'll try to get it there
[07:15] <wweasel> FirstStrike: Let's not get into the uTorrent Azureus debate. It's like Gnome/KDE: It never ends well.
[07:15] <FirstStrike> benx213: b48?
[07:15] <FirstStrike> lol true
[07:15] <DanaG> I'm happy to reset essentially anything about my user, EXCEPT my firefox and thunderbird profiles.
[07:15] <TSP_X> Any chance that someone can help me?
[07:16] <hush`> I like uTorrent too much to want to try anything else.. it's perfect in every way No problems whatsoever with it
[07:16] <benx213> b80
[07:16] <DanaG> Except no timed rotation of seeds...
[07:16] <solarce> stevewillson:  I suspect you'll need to enable the universe repository
[07:16] <FirstStrike> TSP_X: i don't see what the problem is?
[07:16] <FirstStrike> click the file..save to disk?
[07:16] <wweasel> hush`: You'll find that it will look ugly in Linux. But fully functional.
[07:16] <stevewillson> ok
[07:16] <benx213> does utorrent run perfectly under wine?
[07:16] <stevewillson> it's only showing emacs
[07:16] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ i need to add this as a repo
[07:16] <wweasel> benx213: Yes
[07:16] <stevewillson> I'm looking for xemacs
[07:16] <TSP_X> because there i found all the packs i need
[07:17] <stevewillson> how do I enable the universe repository?
[07:17] <solarce> stevewillson: you'll need to add the Universe repository and install the 'xemacs21' package
[07:17] <Fastburn> Solarce: Thank you a ton, I'll give it another restart.
[07:17] <hush`> if I try Azureus will it let me seed all the torrents from my windows HDD ?
[07:17] <solarce> stevewillson: 32mb of files downloaded later it will be there :D
[07:17] <solarce> Fastburn: no problem
[07:17] <FirstStrike> i had to do some magic dancing and compile the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel for my system but saga of ryzom runs perfectly sound and all now :P
[07:17] <Corporal_Dirge> I got Azureus running perfectly. Took a little work since the synaptic package is borked. But manually installing makes it run perfectly.
[07:17] <solarce> Fastburn: I am merely a conduit for google
[07:17] <FirstStrike> but i doubt anyone here plays it. WoW whores :>
[07:17] <solarce> FirstStrike: whoresofwarcraft.com
[07:18] <TSP_X>  sudo gedit /etc/apt/souces.list
[07:18] <TSP_X> stewewillson
[07:18] <Lard-O-Lad> there is a good guide to installing azureus on ubuntuguide.org
[07:18] <benx213> hush`, i dont see why not
[07:18] <FirstStrike> sudo aptitude install azureus
[07:18] <stevewillson> ok
[07:18] <TSP_X> delte this "#" at the start og the universe repos
[07:18] <stevewillson> thanks
[07:18] <hush`> how do i tell it where to look for those torrents
[07:18] <wweasel> hush`: I'm sure, but you'd have to recollect the .torrent files I think.
[07:18] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, the forums version isn't the working way to install it.
[07:18] <TSP_X> delete*
[07:18] <FirstStrike> solarce: nice
[07:18] <cynical> solarce: lol thanks for that you made my night
[07:18] <solarce> haha
[07:18] <solarce> np
[07:18] <benx213> ive had problems with azureus error windows staying up, but upgrading to beta takes care of that
[07:19] <Pupeno> How can I see the state of the battery of my notebook in the command line ?
[07:19] <wweasel> hush`: I'd recommend using uTorrent. I even set mine up to share a config directory with my Windows uTorrent (a bit more complicated)
[07:19] <hush`> yes
[07:19] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, not sure what you mean it worked fine for me?
[07:19] <wweasel> hush`: You can import the config files from your Windows partition
[07:19] <TSP_X> hey please help
[07:19] <solarce> you guys and you're dual booting
[07:19] <hush`> damnit i wish it would work
[07:19] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, They tell you to install from synaptic right?
[07:19] <hush`> fixing to try it alla gain wweasel
[07:19] <solarce> I should talk, I'm setting up ubuntu and osx to dual boot :>
[07:19] <cynical> sadly games are important to me, or I'd ditch windows
[07:19] <Lard-O-Lad> pretty sure they use apt-get
[07:20] <benx213> solarce, already got mine set up
[07:20] <benx213> osx86?
[07:20] <wweasel> hush`: Did you complete removal Wine, then try from the beginning of that tutorial?
[07:20] <solarce> benx213: no, ibook
[07:20] <benx213> ah
[07:20] <naa> ARGH
[07:20] <hush`> yes but whats the CTRL+ALT DEL equivalent in Linux?
[07:20] <FirstStrike> all the games i play work on linux :>
[07:20] <naa> what am I supposed to be doing
[07:20] <hush`> i cant get that instance of Wine and uTorrent to close ?
[07:20] <solarce> naa: dancing
[07:20] <solarce> naa: dance monkey dance!
[07:21] <naa> does sudo dpkg --configure -a fix broken packages?
[07:21] <Lard-O-Lad> quarters*
[07:21] <FirstStrike> hush`: you can map the system monitor to control + alt + delete if you want
[07:21] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, That's the borked version. You need to manually install the beta then load azureus as root in order to install the swt library, and then you still need to switch to sun java for the right tools, it's just easier to manually install.
[07:21] <cynical> hush`: go to a prompt and type 'top' then 'sudo kill' followed by the programs PID
[07:21] <solarce> Lard-O-Lad: you won't get good luck doing that
[07:21] <wweasel> hush`: System > Administration > System Monitor
[07:21] <FirstStrike> hush`: i'm pretty sure by default it's control + alt + escape
[07:21] <naa> hey, you guys pushed me >:(
[07:21] <naa> does sudo dpkg --configure -a fix broken packages?*
[07:21] <wweasel> hush`: You can also do what cynical said. His is the command line version, mine is the GUI.
[07:21] <solarce> naa: dpkg-reconfigure
[07:21] <cynical> hush`: I wish you could kill a process graphically, but then again most programs arent unstable in linux
[07:21] <wweasel> FirstStrike: Nope, it's not CtrlAltEscape
[07:21] <DanaG> Argh, I think I'll end up having to delete and recreate my user
[07:22] <wweasel> cynical: you can. Use the System Monitor.
[07:22] <solarce> DanaG: why?
[07:22] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, huh strange; oh well, heh, i'd stick with utorrent anyways :)
[07:22] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---how can i add this mirror like a repo?
[07:22] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, You need wine for it to work right?
[07:22] <cynical> wweasel: oh great I didnt know it was there, thanks lol
[07:22] <naa> erm
[07:22] <naa> what if you don't know what package is broken?
[07:22] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, yeah, but its worth it
[07:22] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, and i tend to use wine a alot
[07:22] <DanaG> Well, my profile is completely fuXX0red. (excuse the "leetspeek"
[07:23] <solarce> naa: how do you know one is then?
[07:23] <naa> oh wait
[07:23] <naa> I got it
[07:23] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, Well, I like the Azureus plugins. RSS feeder etc.
[07:23] <solarce> DanaG: be more specific
[07:23] <hush`> wweasel: got it - now off to follow that tutorial you linked me to
[07:23] <DanaG> My panel is completely empty.
[07:23] <naa> I guess I had to do -a
[07:23] <FirstStrike> DanaG: what did you do in the first place?
[07:23] <Flannel> lastlog -clear
[07:23] <DanaG> I want to reset my user back to the defaults I got at the first place.
[07:23] <DanaG> I don't remember what I did.
[07:23] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---how can i add this mirror like a repo
[07:23] <Lard-O-Lad> Corporal_Dirge, yea, i used to be a huge azureus fan, but its such a resource hog... (at least the old version was)
 naa: how do you know one is then?  <-- easyubuntu said that it wouldn't install because there were broken packages
[07:23] <wweasel> hush`: Make sure you choose Complete Removal in synaptic. That will remove config files too.
[07:23] <DanaG> (this is Edgy, by the way.  Root stuff is fine, but somehow I broke my user)
[07:23] <FirstStrike> >_>
[07:23] <zithowa> what's an easy way to remove all the files in a directly recursively that match a certain expression?
[07:24] <FirstStrike> oh..edgy
[07:24] <Madpilot> DanaG, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy, please
[07:24] <wweasel> hush`: And you'll probably be skipping some steps in the tutorial that you'll have already done.
[07:24] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, I use the CVS versions, cutting edge updates. Plus a voting system is built into Azureus and we can tell them what features we want them to work on.
[07:24] <DanaG> Well, I can't imagine it'd be all that different on the user side.
[07:24] <FirstStrike> edgy is still in experimental stages and isn't ready for the stable desktop environment yet
[07:24] <solarce> DanaG: bleed I say! that's what happens when ou live on the edge
[07:24] <DanaG> I just need to figure out where to find the default settings.
[07:24] <Flannel> DanaG: but theymight know about the bug/fixes/etc
[07:25] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, I think the memory managment won several months back.
[07:25] <solarce> naa: I see you are developing your problem solving skills
[07:25] <benx213> anyone know of a way to sync a video ipod with album art using amarok?
[07:25] <FirstStrike> many things are still broken in edgy DanaG
[07:25] <solarce> naa: <darth vader> impressive </darth vader>
[07:25] <Corporal_Dirge> How can I tell how much memory Azureus is taking in Ubuntu?
[07:25] <evilgeek> run a top
[07:25] <FirstStrike> Corporal_Dirge: type top in a terminal
[07:25] <Madpilot> DanaG, in various dot files in your user directory, I assume...
[07:25] <solarce> evilgeek: I prefer a draedel
[07:26] <TSP_X> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nas/ <---how can i add this mirror like a repository
[07:26] <swarm> hi
[07:26] <swarm> when i run the ati install script, it works after first reboot
[07:26] <Madpilot> TSP_X, that will already be in your sources, it's part of the Main repo
[07:26] <swarm> then after second reboot, it stops
[07:26] <Flannel> TSP_X: http://archive.ubuntu.com is the repository
[07:26] <jrattner1> QUESTION: How do i Create a virtual serial port? like for bluetooth
[07:26] <TSP_X> wht i can't download the pack there via apt
[07:27] <TSP_X> i have that one
[07:27] <Madpilot> TSP_X, there's a whole pile of .deb packs on that page, they should all be available thru Synaptic...
[07:27] <Flannel> TSP_X: what are you trying to download?  And, will you pastebin your sources?
[07:27] <TSP_X> but if i do apt-get install libaudio-dev_1.7-3ubuntu3_i386.deb for example
[07:27] <Gun-Nut> will 64bit os work better then the 32?
[07:27] <TSP_X> says that there is no pack and i can see it
[07:27] <Madpilot> TSP_X, you don't install like that...
[07:27] <solarce> TSP_X: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[07:28] <TSP_X> yes
[07:28] <FirstStrike> Gun-Nut: that's up in the air. a lot of software isn't compatible with 64 bit yet so you end up running it in 32 bit mode anyway.
[07:28] <Flannel> TSP_X: no .deb  and you need the package name, libaudio-dev is probably the package name
[07:28] <Madpilot> TSP_X, in Synaptic, search for libaudio, that should find it...
[07:28] <lostsync_> tsw, i think you just need to do sudo apt-get libaudio-dev
[07:28] <cobrat> has anyone here attempted to run boinc on a ppc ubuntu installation?
[07:28] <lostsync_> TSP_X, ***
[07:28] <Flannel> TSP_X: sudo apt-get install libaudio-dev
[07:28] <Gun-Nut> Hmm well I can't seem to get the 32bit ubuntu working :( (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240517)
[07:28] <TSP_X> yes i know
[07:29] <TSP_X> sorry for the typo
[07:29] <FirstStrike> try the alternative iso
[07:29] <TSP_X> but this pack wont download via apt
[07:29] <selinuxium> Hi all, I have two ethernet card in my PC, I want to set one up as a private network for vmware and the other as a gateway, how do I do this?
[07:29] <solarce> well it's been fun, but I'm off to bed
[07:29] <Gun-Nut> I've also tried that It fails at the 4 stage i think, the reading the CD
[07:29] <Bonez56> hi, i have ubuntu running in 1280x768 with a 17" LCD and NVidia GeForce card, but now on the right hand side of my screen it goes all fuzzy, and the main picture is squashed up on the left. it works fine in other resolutions such as 1024x786. anyone seen this before?
[07:29] <Madpilot> TSP_X, the pack names are not the same as the .deb file names...
[07:29] <Flannel> TSP_X: what command are you using?
[07:29] <TSP_X> libqt3-mt-dev
[07:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Wow, Azureus hardly takes any memory in Ubuntu. Sweet!
[07:29] <TSP_X> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[07:29] <crofty> i am browsing in nautilus and the directory i am looking at has a orange lock on the top right corner , what does that mean? how do I remove it?
[07:30] <TSP_X> the pack is in the mirror if i browse with firefox
[07:30] <FirstStrike> crofty: it means that file/directory is owned by root
[07:30] <Flannel> TSP_X: Have you updated? sudo apt-get update?
[07:30] <Madpilot> TSP_X, so the package has a slightly different name from it's .deb file - use Synaptic's search button...
[07:30] <TSP_X> yes every time i change something in sources.list
[07:30] <FirstStrike> you can access/edit the file/directory by using the sudo command
[07:30] <Flannel> TSP_X: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[07:31] <TSP_X> i am using synaptic
[07:31] <rapier> hi, i'm trying to setup a router/firewall for my home network and i need the interface eth1 to obtain an IP automatically from my ISP but it always seems to get a static one, what's going wrong?
[07:31] <DanaG> Argh, even though root's profile is set up correctly, copying it over mine does not change mine.
[07:31] <Madpilot> crofty, right-click on it, choose Properties, look at the permissions tab
[07:31] <Madpilot> DanaG, seriously, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy issues
[07:31] <TSP_X> when i  found libqt3-mt-dev says that xlibmesa-gl-dev is not int he repo...
[07:31] <Lard-O-Lad> dont java apps preform better in linux as compared to windows?
[07:31] <Flannel> TSP_X: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[07:32] <crofty> its says drwxr--r--
[07:32] <TSP_X> here?
[07:32] <Flannel> TSP_X: pastebin
[07:32] <Flannel> !paste
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:32] <DanaG> Okay.
[07:32] <Madpilot> crofty, who is listed as owner?
[07:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Lard-O-Lad, I dunno, I'm still using Sun's java rather than the OSS version since I do a lot of java programming.
[07:32] <swarm> xgl is a pain to get running
[07:32] <crofty> It telling me I am not the owner
[07:32] <benx213> swarm, whats the problem
[07:32] <swarm> what file is it that i can read to see what went wrong when xwin doesn't start?
[07:32] <Bonez56> hi, i have ubuntu running in 1280x768 with a 17" LCD and NVidia GeForce card, but now on the right hand side of my screen it goes all fuzzy, and the main picture is squashed up on the left. it works fine in other resolutions such as 1024x786. anyone seen this before?
[07:33] <swarm> benx213, it just goes to gray crosshatch screen with x pointer
[07:33] <selinuxium> Bonez56: Wait a little longer before reposting please! :)
[07:33] <benx213> what guide did you follow
[07:33] <Madpilot> crofty, which directory is this?
[07:33] <TSP_X> i am on that Flannel
[07:33] <swarm> i followed the wiki one'
[07:33] <crofty> its a profile directory for thunderbird to use
[07:33] <TSP_X> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21260
[07:33] <Flannel> swarm: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:33] <TSP_X> there is
[07:33] <benx213> and what hardware do you have?
[07:33] <swarm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:34] <crofty> i have copied ot from a 2nd hard drive
[07:34] <swarm> ati x300
[07:34] <Gun-Nut> xubuntu diffrent to ubuntu?
[07:34] <FirstStrike> hmm
[07:34] <TSP_X> i just add kde repos because i i trying to get kdelibs4-dev and all the depen's
[07:34] <FirstStrike> that guide worked perfect for me swarm
[07:34] <FirstStrike> which method did you use?
[07:34] <Madpilot> crofty, stuff copied from elsewhere sometimes arrives with the wrong ownership/permissions
[07:34] <wweasel> hush`: How's it going?
[07:34] <swarm> a
[07:35] <Flannel> TSP_X: you're right, xlibmesa-gl-dev isn't available, install libgl-dev instead
[07:35] <benx213> swarm, ive used this guide to setup xgl on a few computers. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225141&highlight=xgl+nvidia its worked perfectly for me
[07:35] <crofty> ic
[07:35] <hush`> wweasel: going slowly lol
[07:35] <Madpilot> TSP_X, that's a badly messed up sources.list. Why did you inflict Automatix on yourself?
[07:35] <selinuxium> Gun-Nut: Xubuntu uses a Xfce instead of Gnome, it is a lighter weight window manager for older machines.
[07:35] <hush`> wweasel: keeping fingers crossed
[07:35] <benx213> swarm, sorry but im not really fimiliar with ati cards
[07:35] <TSP_X> becau i am trying to get those pack
[07:35] <crofty> will i need to do chmod on it to make me the owner
[07:35] <TSP_X> i test all the repos around
[07:35] <hush`> wweasel: what version of wine do you use
[07:35] <crofty> i do not know how you do that sorry
[07:35] <Flannel> Madpilot: ah, is that the problem?  Oh, right.  I see ;)
[07:35] <naa> So yeah
[07:35] <naa> check this out
[07:35] <TSP_X> i don't use automatix
[07:35] <naa> I walk into this room
[07:35] <naa> and then
[07:35] <TSP_X> but i need those pack
[07:36] <Flannel> naa: please use your enter key less often
[07:36] <Madpilot> TSP_X, randomly adding repositroies is a good way to mess up your install...
[07:36] <Gun-Nut> what is Ubuntu Breezy ?
[07:36] <wweasel> hush`: That's alright. Remember I said I have been using Ubuntu for 5 months, and I said I installed uTorrent yesterday? That's cause I took 5 months to get around to installing a torrent program :P
[07:36] <Madpilot> Gun-Nut, the previous release of Ubuntu
[07:36] <Flannel> Gun-Nut: it's 5.10 - the previous version
[07:36] <rjian> Hello can anyone help me about signing code of conduct?
[07:36] <wweasel> hush`: It was the same as yours, x.x.19
[07:36] <TSP_X> I know but i need to learn how to compile in ubuntu
[07:36] <TSP_X> flannel is not there that pack
[07:36] <Madpilot> TSP_X, you don't need random repos to compile with
[07:36] <Flannel> wweasel: there are bittorrent clients already installed
[07:37] <rapier> how can i change my network interface to dynamically obtain an IP via dhcp instead of always having the same IP?
[07:37] <selinuxium> Gun-Nut: Breezy is an older version of Ubuntu. The latest version is Dapper, next will be Edgy...
[07:37] <wweasel> Flannel: I know. I mean a decent one :P
[07:37] <Flannel> TSP_X: yes it is.
[07:37] <TSP_X> i know but how i can get all thr depnde's to start building a pack?
[07:37] <Flannel> TSP_X: apt-get build-dep
[07:37] <benx213> rapier, system->administration->networking
[07:38] <rjian> Madpilot: can u help me about the sign of ubuntu code of conduct?
[07:38] <rapier> benx213 i'm using the server version, i don't have an guis.
[07:38] <Corporal_Dirge> rapier, By default it should be dynamic, usually the DHCP just keeps giving you the same IP
[07:38] <swarm> hmm
[07:38] <selinuxium> rapier: System/admin/networking  choose eth?
[07:38] <swarm> no idea if the method b worked
[07:38] <selinuxium> rapier: doh, use ifconfig
[07:38] <TSP_X> i am searching for libgl-dev i didn't know that that is the name
[07:38] <Madpilot> rjian, have you created a GPG key for yourself yet?
[07:38] <swarm> my glxgears is very slow right now. grr
[07:38] <crofty> How do i make myself the owner of that directory then please?
[07:38] <robert_> anybody? help?
[07:38] <rapier> yeah, i'm a little unclear on what i need to do
[07:39] <swarm> it's not using the proper ati driver
[07:39] <rapier> every time i run dhclient eth1 it gets a 192.168.1.x address instead of an ip assigned by my isp
[07:39] <rjian> Madpilot: Yah.. wen i paste the sign code of conduct is says " Public keys missing" something like that...
[07:39] <Flannel> rapier: you have a home router?
[07:39] <rapier> no, just a cable modem
[07:39] <Madpilot> rjian, you need to upload your public key to a keyserver
[07:40] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell rjian about gpg
[07:40] <Flannel> rapier: does your cable modem have a gateway built in?
[07:40] <rjian> yup ive already send it..
[07:40] <rapier> Flannel: no
[07:40] <hush`> wweasel: i think i might need an older version of wine - i reinstalled and it is still giving me full black screens
[07:40] <thompa> hello, Is there some kind of way to set alarm in gnome to play file
[07:40] <wweasel> no, that version of wine should work perfectly.
[07:41] <wweasel> this copy of uTorrent.exe...it is the standalone exectuable, not the installer
[07:41] <FirstStrike> glxgears on xgl runs about twice as fast as it does on X );
[07:41] <NickGarvey> thompa: theres a program.. kalarm.. its for kde but should work on gnome (maybe gnome has its own version of it)
[07:41] <FirstStrike> if only games supported it
[07:41] <NickGarvey> FirstStrike: wow, games on xgl would be crazy
[07:41] <elekis> hi,
[07:41] <NickGarvey> hello
[07:41] <Lard-O-Lad> salutations
[07:41] <Madpilot> rjian, then it should be working... I'm not an expert, but I managed to get the CoC signed
[07:41] <ozzloy> what's a good webcam for linux?
[07:41] <rapier> i have a dhcpd server running also - to give IPs to clients on my local network, could that be interfering with the other network card?
[07:42] <janubuntu> BlueEagle are you here?
[07:42] <swarm> how do i know fo the xgl worked?
[07:42] <swarm> whats thed ifference?
[07:42] <Flannel> swarm: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:42] <selinuxium> thompa: or in a command line     sleep [n]  && mplayer /path/to/audio   something like that!
[07:42] <thompa> NickGarvey: kalarm is not working to well, i just saw that rythembox has one
[07:42] <elekis> I have a littl prob. I use epiphany and I learn javscript, but I can't found the javascript debuggeur where is it please??
[07:42] <NickGarvey> thompa: you didn't get kalarm working? worked fine for me
[07:43] <FirstStrike> swarm: once you activate compiz (if that's what you're aiming for) you'll know.
[07:43] <wweasel> hush`: this copy of uTorrent.exe...it is the standalone exectuable, not the installer
[07:43] <selinuxium> thompa: or use cron to trigger...
[07:43] <rjian> hmm ill try to check it again.. can i erase the previous key?
[07:43] <thompa> NickGarvey: im trying to play some music with it, maybe thats the prob
[07:43] <hush`> wweasel: correct
[07:43] <NickGarvey> thompa: mm.. thats what I did
[07:43] <FirstStrike> swarm: in your system monitor at the bottom it'll say "XGL" too
[07:43] <thompa> selinuxium: thanks
[07:43] <FirstStrike> :>
[07:43] <swarm> FirstStrike, yeah
[07:43] <swarm> my comp is very sluggish right now
[07:43] <wweasel> hush`: I really have no clue. It should work perfectly. And I have no experience with Wine. I wish I knew...
[07:43] <swarm> i think it did work though
[07:44] <elekis> nobody here uuse epiphany?? sniff
[07:44] <swarm> although my ati card is not using acceleration for some reason.. grr
[07:44] <FirstStrike> compiz is still a little buggy for me..so i don't run it very often.
[07:44] <swarm> glxgears is so slow
[07:44] <thompa> NickGarvey: im in edgy using amd64 and such
[07:44] <wweasel> Does anyone here have any idea why Wine would be displaying a black terminal screen and crashign when trying to launch a file (this file is supported)?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> thompa: I think, #ubuntu+1 is what you want
[07:44] <thompa> NickGarvey: probably i only need to configure the player
[07:44] <thompa> yep thanks
[07:45] <thompa> NickGarvey: installing any kde apps is hazerdoes in edgy
[07:45] <NickGarvey> I would think heh
[07:45] <thompa> NickGarvey: its fun though
[07:45] <stephans> does anyone know how to make 3d acceleration work for and intel i810 in ubuntu
[07:45] <stephans> common in dell
[07:46] <stephans> dell inspiron 700 ...
[07:46] <stephans> to force it... the open gl.
[07:47] <NickGarvey> stephans: have you tried drivers?
[07:47] <stephans> what drivers?
[07:47] <benx213> stephans, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=xgl+810
[07:47] <stephans> ok
[07:48] <rapier> if i'm running a dhcpd server and then run dhclient, how do i tell the client to get an ip from an external dhcp server and not my local one?
[07:48] <cypher> where can i download dapper pilots ?
[07:48] <erikgz> stephans: google for it
[07:49] <erikgz> should be something very up at the topish
[07:49] <NickGarvey> rapier: use like dhcpcd -s IPADDRESS
[07:49] <Madpilot> cypher, pilots? Do you mean the test releases of the next Ubuntu version, or what?
[07:49] <erikgz> stephans: does lsmod | grep i810  show anything?
[07:51] <MrKeuner> I have Encrypt in the nautilus context menu, however when I right click on a.pgp file I do not get Decrypt option in the context menu. What should I do?
[07:51] <rouan> lo peeps.. any way we can help to keep the repos up to date?
[07:52] <stephans> erikgz: nope, but x detected "       Driver          "i810""
[07:52] <Flannel> rouan: what do you mean?
[07:53] <stephans> erikgz: i do not know what module it used
[07:53] <rouan> the x-moto in the repos was way old so i built the latest one myself
[07:53] <rouan> can i somehow upload that to the repos?
[07:53] <erikgz> okay... what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:53] <rouan> dapper
[07:53] <sebakiller> MrKeuner: you should jump from a 9 floor building, hahaha , a little joke
[07:53] <erikgz> stephans: what version?
[07:53] <Flannel> rouan: no, each release of ubuntu has a fixed version (except bugfixes) in the repositories
[07:53] <erikgz> what does uname -a show?
[07:54] <rouan> erf :/
[07:54] <haga> how come my s-video of my video card isn't working?
[07:54] <haga> but my display is all good
[07:54] <benx213> haga what card are you using
[07:54] <MrKeuner> sebakiller/ I am glad that you are amused
[07:55] <krypto84sv> alguno de los presentes habla espaol?
[07:55] <haga> GeForce MX 400
[07:55] <Flannel> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <stephans> erikgz: i am running the latest dapper...
[07:55] <NickGarvey> !es > krypto84sv
[07:55] <sebakiller> MrKeuner:  im bored, sorry
[07:55] <benx213> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456&highlight=nvidia+s-video
[07:55] <krypto84sv> muchas gracias!
[07:55] <erikgz> stephans: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:55] <sebakiller> no hay nadie en las de espanol
[07:56] <NickGarvey> krazykit: de nada :)
[07:56] <sebakiller> !*
[07:56] <NickGarvey> wrong person
[07:56] <NickGarvey> okie then
[07:56] <haga> benx213: im on debian
[07:57] <sebakiller> wow, im on ubuntu
[07:57] <Flannel> haga: #debian is for you then (except they're on a different server now)
[07:57] <stephans> erikgz: pastebin?
[07:57] <benx213> haga, sarge or sid?
[07:57] <xclett> Flannel: where did #debian go?
[07:58] <haga> Flannel: its all good, its not like im running asking Windows questions
[07:58] <haga> benx213: sarge
[07:58] <benx213> so are you still using xf86?
[07:58] <erikgz> stephans: okay, nevermind.  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you should have a line in your "Device" section which reads: Driver  "i810"
[07:58] <erikgz> that'll load the i810 module and should make everything happy
[07:58] <haga> benx213: obviously
[07:59] <haga> benx213: yes
[07:59] <stephans> erikgz: i do and it loads but no 3d...
[08:00] <erikgz> glxgears ?
[08:00] <Flannel> haga: debian is really the only place you can go for help.  They have their own bugs/etc.  They'll be able to help you, we can't really.
[08:00] <Flannel> haga: especially considering ubuntu uses Xorg, not xfree
[08:00] <erikgz> stephans: lsmod | grep i810 returns ... ?
[08:00] <zac> hey I'm trying to restore grub to my MBR. my /boot partition is on /dev/hdc2. do I say grub-install /dev/hdc2 or grub-install /dev/hda, which is the primary master where windows is and what the computer boots fr
[08:00] <haga> Flannel: bugs, lol @ bugs, where, bugs?
[08:01] <haga> Flannel: did i even mention bugs?
[08:01] <Gun-Nut> will ubuntu 32 work on my comp? since its 64bit
[08:01] <Flannel> zac: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Gun-Nut: yes
[08:01] <xclett> running both debian and ubuntu on different machines, much is the same.  experience on ubuntu was helpful for debian.
[08:01] <NickGarvey> Gun-Nut: if its an AMD64
[08:01] <stephans> erikgz: it return nothing...
[08:02] <MrKeuner> Gun-Nut/ not sure if intel is backward compatible
[08:02] <Flannel> haga: well, for whatever reason, be it bugs or configuration errors.  ubuntu is vastly different than debian on this issue.
[08:02] <xclett> though it's true that sometimes debian has its own issues (it's generally more painful than ubuntu, mostly due to fewer packages available -- and me needing to search for and build more on my own)
[08:02] <Gun-Nut> Am, AMD64
[08:02] <erikgz> hmm
[08:02] <stephans> erikgz: Since my xorg has the driver line in it and x does not crach trying to use i assume that it is there
[08:02] <erikgz> you can't assume that
[08:03] <stephans> erikgz: ok
[08:03] <erikgz> stephans: does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log have any WW or EE in it?
[08:03] <erikgz> (warnings or errors?)
[08:03] <stephans> erikgz: let me see...
[08:04] <xclett> Gun-Nut: unless you're a developer with interest in helping move things to amd64, I'd recommend installing the 32bit one
[08:04] <stephans> erikgz, (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[08:04] <xclett> Gun-Nut: (yes, the 32 bit one works fine - and it avoid many problems)
[08:04] <NickGarvey> yes! you want 32 bit ubuntu tust me
[08:05] <PurpleTet> hey guy, im havin problem playin my mp3s
[08:05] <benx213> PurpleTet, whats the problem
[08:05] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > PurpleTet
[08:05] <Frankenstein> how do i turn on the sshd
[08:05] <erikgz> stephans: yeah, i get that too
[08:05] <stephans> erikgz,(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:05] <erikgz> stephans: do you have a wacom tablet :) ?
[08:05] <xclett> Gun-Nut: I run the 64bit one, but it's a big mess... some things don't work on the 64 bit one, certain surprising packages are missing in 64bit, etc.  I've got a 32bit chroot environment in my 64bit one which mirrors almost everything at this point.
[08:05] <PurpleTet> hangon, ill get the error
[08:05] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: it turns on by default
[08:06] <erikgz> stephans: try grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <stephans> erikgz, nope just a dell 700m laptop
[08:06] <erikgz> and grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, i did... i even changed the port in the config but i cant conenct to the other machine
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: have firestarter?
[08:06] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, no
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: is this in your house?
[08:06] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: I suggest changing it back to the fault
[08:06] <stephans>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 30-67kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): config file vrefresh range 30-60Hz not within DDC vrefresh ranges.(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[08:06] <xclett> Gun-Nut: for instance, on top of the usual things people complain about, I recently found that psyco for Python doesn't have a package on 64bit.  So I had to go and make a complete 32bit Python config.
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
[08:06] <TSP_X> how can i use the command build-dep?
[08:06] <stephans> (WW) I810(0): Option "UseFBDev" is not used
[08:06] <NickGarvey> !paste > stephans
[08:07] <william_> Can someone link me to the most up to date article how to install Nvidia cards because I've followed the one from ubuntu.com 3 times and no luck
[08:07] <william_> please :)
[08:07] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, it doesnt work that way or any other way
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: no I mean, where is the other computer? is it in your house?
[08:07] <benx213> william_, what card are you trying to install
[08:07] <Frankenstein> no
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: port forwarding then, connect to your router
[08:07] <erikgz> stephans: sudo modprobe i810
[08:08] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im trying to connect to a pc from the outside... that has openssh-server installed...
[08:08] <william_> GeforceGo 7800, I've had Dapper since it came out but decided to format today and cannot get nvidia working again, it was soo easy last time :P
[08:08] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, it doesnt work, its not behind any router
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: then they need to set up port forwarding
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: really?
[08:08] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, yes
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: would you mind pming me the ip so I can check if its up?
[08:08] <PurpleTet> benx213: i get this when i try to play my mp3s "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:08] <stephans> erikgz, ok ..
[08:08] <stephans> erikgz, done
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: if you don't want to I won't take it personally ;)
[08:08] <erikgz> lsmod | grep i810
[08:09] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, checking if what is up
[08:09] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: the server
[08:09] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, it is...
[08:09] <stephans> erikgz, lsmod shows it now
[08:09] <ese5> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse:
[08:09] <ese5>  Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[08:09] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: w do you know?
[08:09] <ese5> what the hell
[08:09] <benx213> william_, i think you can just sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and then edit your xorg.conf file to load the nvidia driver
[08:09] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, i pinged it?
[08:09] <ese5> i have all the repositories checked
[08:09] <stephans> along with drm???
[08:09] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: that means the computer is up, not the server
[08:09] <erikgz> restart X
[08:09] <benx213> PurpleTet, you are missing codecs. what program are you trying to play your mp3s in
[08:09] <erikgz> and then... glxgears ?
[08:09] <william_> benx213, when I get to the part about sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it falls apart
[08:10] <stephans> erikgz, ok ... by by
[08:10] <Hazarath> Um... hey.
[08:10] <PurpleTet> benx213:  well the default program is totem
[08:10] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, root      7113  0.0  0.4   4760  1032 ?        Ss   01:59   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: okie then
[08:10] <dani_> hola
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: wait how did you get that?
[08:10] <Hazarath> Need advice on playin' MP4 video
[08:10] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: if you can't connect to it?
[08:10] <jes-o-mat> hi
[08:10] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im not stupid bud...
[08:10] <benx213> PurpleTet, do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[08:11] <PurpleTet> im pretty sure
[08:11] <PurpleTet> they are
[08:11] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, and you obiously are of no help... so thanks
[08:11] <jes-o-mat> how do I get a patch from linux git-tree for a specific sha1-sum?
[08:11] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: what? I just don't understand how you ran a ps aux on a computer you can't connet too
[08:11] <martinkb> hi, before i go download 600MB i would like to know about support for "Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card", i have looked at the fourms and think there is support, but i want to be sure :)
[08:11] <PurpleTet> benx213:  what apt do i need to get?
[08:11] <benx213> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-multiverse
[08:11] <william_> benx213, after I change it from nv to nvidia how do I get my 1920x1080 resolution
[08:11] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im on the phone with the other user
[08:11] <benx213> i thank that you will do it
[08:12] <HeathenDan> for mp4, download 232codecs. mp4 is h264 container format, and will play in totem if you have the proper codec
[08:12] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: and he told you all of that over the phone?
[08:12] <NickGarvey> and you typed it all?
[08:12] <NickGarvey> with all of the spaces just right?
[08:12] <benx213> william_, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, yes
[08:12] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: stop trolling and leave
[08:12] <HeathenDan> 232codecs > w32codecs
[08:12] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, im not... im trying to get help
[08:12] <Hazarath> Heathen: URL? Kinda new, donno how to get that.
[08:12] <Frankenstein> NickGarvey, stop being such a smartass and we wont have a problem... seems your the one being a troll... if you cant help, dont speak
[08:13] <Frankenstein> is there an OP around?
[08:13] <HellDragon> :o
[08:13] <SleepingCreep> Hi my x server is down
[08:13] <HeathenDan> hmm, google for easyubuntu and install it. it has the option to download and install the w32codecs
[08:13] <Frankenstein> SleepingCreep, down? try startx
[08:13] <NickGarvey> Frankenstein: /msg ubotu ops for a list of all the ops
[08:14] <SleepingCreep> It doesn't work.
[08:14] <Frankenstein> SleepingCreep, whats the error
[08:14] <Hazarath> Heathen: Got the restricted formats installed. No audio on said video.
[08:14] <jme> what happens when you run it, SleepingCreep ?
[08:14] <SleepingCreep> error 104 on x server "o.0
[08:14] <Frankenstein> !error 104
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error 104 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <SleepingCreep> *":0.0"
[08:14] <Frankenstein> meh... umm... look up error 104 for x
[08:14] <deoryp> could some one help me get firefox 1.5 installed?
[08:14] <verbose> Frankenstein: i believe you can also type '!ops' in channel, but that would not be appropriate in this case i think
[08:15] <NickGarvey> SleepingCreep: do you have anymore info?
[08:15] <HeathenDan> no audio? hmm. do you have an idea what the audio is in that file? try installing vlc with plugins and see if it can play it
[08:15] <Frankenstein> verbose, not worth my time... im very tired
[08:15] <Frankenstein> nite
[08:15] <verbose> Frankenstein: good call
[08:15] <ese5> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:15] <ese5>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[08:15] <SleepingCreep> no screens found.
[08:16] <Hazarath> Heathen: That's the problem.. got VLC... still won't play... trying to download the vids from Google video... got it to save in MP4, but it will only play Vid, no sound.
[08:16] <Hazarath> For PSP, technally.
[08:16] <HeathenDan> very odd indeed. i had no problems with google vids in mp4 format
[08:16] <Madpilot> Frankenstein, there are a number of ops present - what's the problem?
[08:17] <HeathenDan> maybe you have another thing that's using the sound daemon?
[08:17] <Hazarath> Not likely.
[08:17] <SleepingCreep> NickGarvey: it says "no screens found"
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Madpilot: do you see the exchange between me and him up a page or two?
[08:17] <robert_> nobody's got any idea why ubuntu hangs right after loading the kernel event manager?
[08:17] <SleepingCreep> and fail to load all modules.
[08:17] <HeathenDan> do you have alsa-oss installed? maybe you can run "$ aoss totem" it
[08:18] <Hazarath> Command not found.
[08:19] <HeathenDan> ok, try installing alsa-oss via synaptic
[08:19] <zac> I'm trying to use grub-install to restore my MBR but none of the how-tos are specific enough. The boot drive is /dev/hda and the linux /boot partition is on /dev/hdc2
[08:19] <HeathenDan> then try that command again
[08:19] <Lobster> auso apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:19] <Lobster> sudo
[08:19] <HeathenDan> or apt-get
[08:19] <HeathenDan> or aptitude
[08:19] <Hazarath> Er...
[08:19] <zac> and when I say grub-install /dev/hda it says it can't find the /boot partition
[08:19] <Hazarath> What one?
[08:20] <Lobster> what you want, Hazarath ...
[08:20] <HeathenDan> sudo apt-get install alsa-oss <-- type this in terminal
[08:20] <_JECKEL_> hey guys...I got a 60 gig external hard-drive and I was wondering if there was a way I could get a live-CDish like version of Ubuntu on their so I can have Ubuntu wherever I go...
[08:20] <Lobster> its all the same
[08:20] <HeathenDan> diff ways to dl from repositories
[08:20] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: the desktop cd on ubuntu.com is a live cd
[08:20] <hush`> wweasel: HECK YES!
[08:21] <_JECKEL_> well yes...that's awesome..but I wanna be able to boot to it and carry it around in this external drive
[08:21] <Lobster> _JECKEL_, you can use the live-dc and make your external drife your home-partition
[08:21] <_JECKEL_> hmmmm
[08:21] <_JECKEL_> how?
[08:21] <Hazarath> Still no good.
[08:21] <Lobster> i think booting an usb-hd is very slow...
[08:21] <HeathenDan> install ubuntu in your ext hdd
[08:22] <verbose> _JECKEL_: you want to not use the cd at all, but boot from your external hard drive instead?
[08:22] <HeathenDan> as long as you use the default i386 kernel, it will work with most pcs
[08:22] <_JECKEL_> yeah...wondering if that's possible so I can take it and have linux on any comp I go to..
[08:23] <verbose> _JECKEL_: then just do an install to the external hard drive
[08:23] <verbose> like HeathenDan said
[08:23] <hush`> How do i make a shortcut on the desktop
[08:23] <NickGarvey> hush`: you can use ln -s, that should work
[08:23] <_JECKEL_> ok...but i'm wondering if that will completley destory whatever drivers the company put in this thing...
[08:23] <HeathenDan> you have to edit the bios to make it boot from usb. and older pcs do not have that options. and internet cafes will not allow you to edit the bios
[08:23] <hush`> nickgarvey: lb -s /path/to/filename ?
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> bleh
[08:24] <verbose> _JECKEL_: drivers are built-in to most OS's
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> so it's useless then?
[08:24] <verbose> _JECKEL_: they're certainly not on the external drive
[08:24] <NickGarvey> ln -s /original/file ~/Desktop/shortcutname
[08:24] <HeathenDan> hush`, right click desktop > create launcher
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[08:24] <verbose> if they were, things without the drivers wouldnt' be able to access them and things with the drivers would, but they wouldn't need to
[08:24] <_JECKEL_> anyone know how to get KDE or Gnome to work from Cygwin then?
[08:24] <Hazarath> Heathen: I'll be right back, however, still nothing. Trying a new file to see if it's rthe codec, or the file.
[08:24] <sieoxlxe> Hi. : ) I installed Ubuntu from a chroot and base-config is dead now, so I never ran the basic configuration script. How do I do that? It mostly works by hand but it's getting some problems, mainly with sudo, etc.
[08:25] <HeathenDan> ok
[08:25] <HeathenDan> i'll be off soon. gonna play diablo2
[08:25] <HeathenDan> cause wine can't run rise of nations :p
[08:25] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: you mean, running entirely on cygwin? or remote-Xservering?
[08:25] <Generic> Grrr!
[08:26] <_JECKEL_> what is remote-Xservering?
[08:27] <Bonez56> hi, i have ubuntu running in 1280x768 with a 17" LCD and NVidia GeForce card, but now on the right hand side of my screen it goes all fuzzy, and the main picture is squashed up on the left. it works fine in other resolutions such as 1024x786. anyone seen this before?
[08:27] <shaantanu> hi there ... umm I followed a tutorial on ubuntuguide.org ... to improve my sound quality, but now i dont have any sound on my ubuntu ... I edited my sound config file according to the tutorial and even restored it back using the backup i created then , but my alsa driver seems to have gone away , when i check it out in the preferences
[08:27] <verbose> Bonez56: that's a weird resolution...try 1280x1024
[08:27] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: if you have an ubuntu box you can connect to it with cygwin (or any other Xserver), sort of like a thin client
[08:27] <Bonez56> verbose: that's what I meant, sorry. It wont work in 1280x1024
[08:28] <robd> Hey all
[08:28] <robd> Has anyone here setup VMware Workstation in Ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[08:28] <verbose> Bonez56: ok, try googling for "modeline generator" or better yet "linux modeline <your monitor model>" and see if you can find a Modeline to add to your xorg.conf
[08:28] <verbose> Bonez56: also, does your lcd have an autoadjust button?
[08:28] <robd> I'm trying to figure out how to get it to compile the vmware modules to my kernel... (I installed the kernel headers and source, but I'm trying to find out where I can get my running kernels config...)
[08:28] <shaantanu> robd : temme
[08:29] <robd> shaantanu: huh?
[08:29] <Bonez56> verbose: it used to work before without a problem, then it just stopped working. Yes it has an auto adjust button but it looks liek it could possibly be a problem with refresh rate. how do i change that? the only option i get in gnome is 85hz
[08:29] <IcemanV9> !sound > shaantanu
[08:29] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[08:29] <_JECKEL_> actually..that sounds pretty good
[08:29] <shaantanu> robd : have u install build-essential
[08:29] <Hazarath> Heathen: Trying new vid...
[08:29] <PurpleTet> benx213:  still no result :(
[08:29] <robd> shaantanu: yep
[08:29] <_JECKEL_> keep ubuntu running at home and then using cygwin to connect to it when I'm at school...
[08:29] <verbose> Bonez56: that's what the Modeline line does in your X config file(tells the xserver what refresh rate among other things to use)
[08:30] <shaantanu> robd: whats the problem ??
[08:30] <cilkay> Shouldn't you be able to switch X modes by hitting Ctrl-Alt-+ ?
[08:30] <Hazarath> I feel stupid... bad file. Works fine.
[08:30] <Bonez56> verbose: weird, cause 85hz used to work fine, i didn't change anything and now it does not like it.
[08:30] <robd> shaantanu: It's just complaining that it hasn't found version.h in the includes dir
[08:30] <IcemanV9> _JECKEL_: nah. just pay attention @ school. don't worry about your PC @ home. ;)
[08:30] <verbose> Bonez56: that is quite weird...and you haven't upgraded any software?
[08:30] <shaantanu> robd : ok ... I had a similar prob , just wait a sec
[08:31] <verbose> Bonez56: if all the software is the same i'd test the lcd on another computer
[08:31] <Bonez56> verbose: nope, nothing to do with x11
[08:31] <robd> shaantanu: thanks
[08:31] <_JECKEL_> I meant for the breaks between classes dood
[08:31] <verbose> Bonez56: typically if you haven't changed any software, it's hardware failure
[08:31] <_JECKEL_> bleh...I'll just grab torrents from the super fast skool compies >_>
[08:31] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:31] <Bonez56> verbose: i also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that didn't fix it
[08:31] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: heh, I use "putty" to connect to it
[08:31] <Hazarath> Heathen: Thanks, just over reacted. Might ask another time to set uo QoS. See ya.
[08:31] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:31] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: goign that far, just ssh in, yeah.
[08:32] <_JECKEL_> yes...
[08:32] <rasmussenj> PurpleTet: sudo aptitude lame  #will install free mp3 tools
[08:33] <rasmussenj> PurpleTet: sudo aptitude install lame
[08:33] <shaantanu> robd: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd
[08:33] <PurpleTet> ok thx rasmussenj ill try that
[08:33] <robd> shaantanu: Thanks
[08:34] <shaantanu> robd: dont thank ... try first
[08:34] <shaantanu> u cud still have more probs
[08:34] <robd> shaantanu: I'm sure I'll figure it out
[08:34] <shaantanu> robd: best of luck then
[08:34] <PurpleTet> rasmussenj: what do i do after it has done installin?
[08:34] <robd> shaantanu: :)
[08:35] <william_> whoever was helping me.... I figured it out why my nvidia drivers werent working.. its rather weird :(
[08:35] <NickGarvey> william_: why?
[08:35] <william_> well my monitor on my laptop has always been 1920x1080 which is 1080p... well now I have to run 1920x1280?!?!
[08:36] <william_> I've always ran 1920x1080 but it wasnt an option in xorg-server but it works and looks good soo I dunno
[08:36] <william_> Do you guys recommend automatix or BUMPS?
[08:36] <NickGarvey> william_: easyubuntu
[08:36] <MrKeuner> I have Encrypt in the nautilus context menu, however when I right click on a.pgp file I do not get Decrypt option in the context menu. What should I do?
[08:36] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu > william_
[08:37] <william_> what happened to Automatix? that was the best no?
[08:38] <NickGarvey> william_: um.. I don't advice it due to problems that can occur by its usage
[08:38] <naa> ARGH
[08:38] <naa> no matter what I do
[08:38] <naa> "cannot apply changes!1 fix broken packages first lolol"
[08:39] <Ademan> is it possible to write a shared object in c++ and export a strictly c API? (and not only that, not allow any name mangling)
[08:39] <NickGarvey> naa: sudo apt-get install -f
[08:39] <Ademan> is it possible to write a shared object in c++ and export a strictly c API? (and not only that, not allow any name mangling)
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Ademan: I think that question is way over the head of most people (such as myself) in this channel
[08:40] <william_> NickGarvey, totem vs mplayer for embeded videos?
[08:40] <NickGarvey> william_: I use mplayer
[08:41] <naa> let's see if it works this time
[08:41] <NickGarvey> william_: easyubuntu sets that up for you
[08:41] <william_> NickGarvey, it says Totem
[08:41] <NickGarvey> william_: really?  I didn't think so..
[08:41] <PreZ> Anyone know where to get packages for a newer (than 0.18.1) version of mythtv?
[08:41] <william_> I think Ill use bumps like I did last time.. cause I like mplayer alot
[08:42] <naa> didn't work, Nick
[08:42] <NickGarvey> naa: what happened/didn't
[08:42] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[08:42] <NickGarvey> naa: have you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[08:42] <naa> same thing that happened last time I tried installing easyubuntu
[08:42] <naa> "cannot install! fix broken packages!
[08:42] <naa> "
[08:42] <NickGarvey> naa: have you ran that though?
[08:43] <naa> yeah
[08:43] <NickGarvey> naa: like if run it right now and tell me what happens
[08:43] <NickGarvey> haha that was messed up
[08:43] <NickGarvey> naa: run it right now and tell me what happens (please)
[08:43] <naa> ok
[08:43] <naa> Reading package lists... Done
[08:43] <naa> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: does it upgrade anything?
[08:44] <naa> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 44 not upgraded.
[08:44] <NickGarvey> 44 not upgraded :)
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: have you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: oh doh
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:44] <NickGarvey> naa: try that one
[08:44] <lunnnnn> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[08:44] <NickGarvey> !ops
[08:44] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth: poing
[08:45] <Greatmetal> hi
[08:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth: er, dont worry
[08:45] <nalioth> NickGarvey: please, dude.  see where lunnnn was "killed by alindeman" ?
[08:45] <NickGarvey> nalioth: oh no I didn't, I'm sorry
[08:45] <Madpilot> NickGarvey, DCC morons are generally k-lined very, very quickly
[08:45] <Greatmetal> umm i need help :9
[08:45] <NickGarvey> Madpilot: didn't know that, sorry for the false alarm
[08:45] <RadHatter> How would you install Ubuntu (or rather Xubuntu) on a computer that doesn't have a (working) CD drive or floppy drive? The only way to get information to it is by network or by taking out its hdd and putting stuff on it on another computer and then replacing it in the computer. Can I make a bootable image on the hdd that would initiate a network install?
[08:45] <RadHatter> The problem with installing something on the hdd and then replacing it is that many installs configure hardware in the install. Can I maybe create a very very basic debian install on the hdd and then use something like debootstrap only for Xubuntu? Does that sound plausible?
[08:45] <nalioth> NickGarvey: that means they are gone.  there are automated things going on to k-line all those idiots
[08:45] <NickGarvey> nalioth: :) good
[08:46] <NickGarvey> sorry again
[08:46] <Greatmetal> :(
[08:46] <nalioth> Madpilot: don't you mean "instantly"?
[08:46] <Madpilot> nalioth, close enough ;)
[08:46] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: people have done netboots I think
[08:47] <naa> Nick, could you say that last command again?
[08:47] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem :(
[08:47] <PurpleTet> hey guy have problem playin mp3s on ubuntu using totem this error comes up everytime i try to play a mp3 "Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled.  :P
[08:47] <edgy> Hi, I do sudo su - username; whoami but that didn't change the user, any hint?
[08:48] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: then.. hard drive would be my suggestion.. you might be able to install damn small linux, and then use that to install ubuntu
[08:48] <RadHatter> edgy: Stupid old computer--won't boot from USB peripherals.
[08:48] <RadHatter> I did have DSL on it
[08:48] <Greatmetal> :((
[08:48] <RadHatter> I didn't know where to go from there.
[08:48] <NickGarvey> edgy: try sudo -i
[08:48] <RadHatter> How would I go from a DSL install to Ubuntu?
[08:48] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: chroot
[08:49] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my probelm
[08:49] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Sorry. Please be more specific.
[08:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: mount the iso, and chroot into it, then use text based installer tools from there
[08:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: (not going to be easy heh)
[08:49] <RadHatter> Hmm...
[08:50] <RadHatter> Where is the text based installer?
[08:50] <lumgwada> hi, I need a php script to fire off another script with root privileges... in the past I've done this by scheduling a job file that gets read by a root cron script... can anyone recommend a more elegent method of doing this on ubuntu/debian? (ie with no cron lag...)
[08:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: no idea at all, but the alternate cd must have it somewhere, I have never poked around for it
[08:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I'd wait around a little bit for someone smarter to give you more info, but I think a chroot is your best bet
[08:51] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my probelm
[08:51] <NickGarvey> .
[08:51] <sloncho> hi. where from I can dawnload the latest kernel images for breezy. After upgrade to 2.6.12-10 my network card is not working, so, i need using another comp to dawnload older or newer kernel to try to recover
[08:51] <NickGarvey> naa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:51] <NickGarvey> .
[08:52] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem
[08:52] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Also, when I booted into DSL from the stupid computer, everything was green-ish and scanlined with white. Things were hardly visible but they were there. I guess, DSL didn't have the driver I needed (the card works well under Ubuntu). Can you recommend what to do with that so that the text based install won't be such a terrible pain?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> naa: tit should update stuff
[08:52] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh well that was the GUI right?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I hope?
[08:52] <chops-> damm my athlon xp 1600+ board doesn't support the big booting drive
[08:52] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my problem
[08:53] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Well, when I went into the terminal (ctrl alt backspace) everything was still green-ish. I guess the text terminal was still run by DSL. When booting, all was well.  Is there no way to abort X starting up? Like, go to shell immediately? Is there maybe a simple shell-only distro I should try instead of DSL?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: no, its a boot command, I'm sure it is
[08:55] <NickGarvey> lemme grab the iso and run it in a vm
[08:56] <RadHatter> Well, once installed on the HDD from the CD, it doesn't bring up the boot menu.
[08:56] <RadHatter> I think.
[08:56] <RadHatter> I'll have to check it out again.
[08:56] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh, theres probably a config file somewhere
[08:56] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: because I know I had it turned off at one point
[08:57] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Hmm... I hope we can find it. The chroot idea sounds rather good. :)
[08:57] <`m0> can I run ubuntu ontop of windows xp?
[08:57] <`m0> like install ubuntu after I install winxp
[08:57] <Greatmetal> yes
[08:57] <sloncho> hi. where from I can dawnload the latest kernel images for breezy. After upgrade to 2.6.12-10 my network card is not working, so, i need using another comp to dawnload older or newer kernel to try to recover
[08:57] <`m0> can Iuse the same c:\ drive?
[08:57] <NickGarvey> m0;: yes, its called a change root
[08:57] <Greatmetal> yes
[08:58] <NickGarvey> m0: you will still have the c:\, but you can't install ubuntu on it
[08:58] <`m0> would it affect my other drives?
[08:58] <Greatmetal> no
[08:58] <NickGarvey> m0: nope :)
[08:58] <`m0> hmm so I need a separate drive for ubuntu only
[08:58] <Greatmetal> no
[08:58] <NickGarvey> `m0: no, its called partitioning
[08:58] <NickGarvey> !dualboot
[08:58] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:58] <`m0> i know
[08:58] <NickGarvey> `m0: read the first howto there
[08:58] <`m0> but I don't want to partition now
[08:58] <Greatmetal> !wireless
[08:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:58] <`m0> i have information on c drive
[08:59] <FirstStrike> you can resize your windows partition and install ubuntu on the free space.
[08:59] <`m0> If I use partition magic that is
[08:59] <RadHatter> `mo: Look for Magic Partition (someone correct me if I'm wrong on the name) for Windows for repartitioning while saving info. Or, on Linux, try parted (again, name?)
[08:59] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my wireless problem
[08:59] <NickGarvey> `m0: no, theres a free program, gparted
[08:59] <`m0> But I have nightmares with partition magic
[08:59] <NickGarvey> `m0: defrag first! do it like 3 times!
[08:59] <`m0> NickGarvey: lol
[09:00] <NickGarvey> trust me on that :)
[09:00] <`m0> WindowsXP is crucial for me thats why :) I do alot of vs2k5 dev on it
[09:00] <`m0> hrmm why wont I just risk one of my 80gb hds :)
[09:00] <`m0> I have 900gb :s
[09:01] <`m0> I think that will be a better idea
[09:01] <sepman> problem with canon mp390, prints ok with blc 7000 driver, but scanner doesn' t work. any help?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: well, the boot command is "dsl 2"
[09:01] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: but lemme see what the config file is
[09:01] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: did you do a frugal install?
[09:01] <RadHatter> I did not. Should I? I can easily reinstall DSL again.
[09:02] <`m0> Greatmetal: why wont you use gnome network manager
[09:02] <Greatmetal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189509 here is my wireless problem
[09:02] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh no, its fine
[09:02] <`m0> Greatmetal: It works great with my laptop
[09:02] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: can you ssh into the dsl box?
[09:02] <ppcguy> hey all any way to set up GDM after an intial install?
[09:03] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Maybe? I don't know. That would help with the green, wouldn't it. Is ssh access enabled by default?
[09:03] <Greatmetal> :(
[09:03] <RadHatter> I'll go try
[09:03] <RadHatter> One min
[09:03] <Greatmetal> pleae help it is my only connection to the net
[09:03] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok, I don't think its on by default but it IS installed
[09:03] <`m0> Greatmetal: but it seems you have some firmware problems maybe
[09:03] <Greatmetal> i used ndiswrapper
[09:03] <`m0> Greatmetal: What wireless card you have?
[09:03] <Greatmetal> usr 5416
[09:04] <Greatmetal> linuxant didnt work
[09:04] <NickGarvey> Greatmetal: try "iwlist scan"
[09:04] <Greatmetal> okay
[09:04] <`m0> iwlist scanning
[09:04] <Greatmetal> last time i did that no networks were found
[09:04] <`m0> Greatmetal: are you sure you have hte correct firmware?
[09:05] <Greatmetal> yes
[09:05] <`m0> Greatmetal: you have an ip?
[09:05] <Greatmetal> latest drivers
[09:05] <Greatmetal> i cant even connect useing static ip
[09:05] <Gun_Smoke> Disks manager will not finish loading up.  I get pass password and then the wheel just keeps a spinning.. About 15 minutes now... Help?
[09:05] <`m0> Greatmetal: why do you need static?
[09:05] <ppcguy> hey all any way to set up GDM after an intial install?
[09:05] <Greatmetal> becuase dhcp does not work
[09:05] <NickGarvey> `m0: I think that was a debugging step, not a necesity
[09:05] <`m0> ppcguy: you could edit the gdm file
[09:07] <Greatmetal> the card is recognized in the system but cant connect to anything
[09:07] <Greatmetal> and i hate windows with the intensity of 1000 suns!!!
[09:07] <NickGarvey> Greatmetal: I had the same problem to be honest, and I use suse now, so I'm not sure what the problem is
[09:07] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Okay, so DSL is not installed on the HDD right now (I was messing with it trying different things). So, I'm gonna install it now. Should I do a simple install to HDD? Or, frugal? And what boot loader should I use?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I suggest grub frugal
[09:08] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: you have plenty of space right?
[09:08] <`m0> Greatmetal: i have bcm43xx  wireless card and it works for me
[09:08] <RadHatter> NickGravey: So what exactly is frugal? Like with the least amount of packages and stuff and just the nitty-gritty?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: from what I understand, its more like coping the iso to your hard drive and running that, rather than installing
[09:09] <Greatmetal> hmmm
[09:09] <`m0> Greatmetal: I did some hacking around it to make it work since its known to be bad.
[09:09] <Banger1> how do i install ubuntu server?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> which makes upgrades very easy, where as a normal install you need to reinstall it all
[09:09] <swarm> how do i find my xfree86 version?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Banger1: theres a cd for that
[09:09] <`m0> Greatmetal: what does it say when you do lspci ?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Banger1: in the downloads section
[09:09] <Banger1> i downloaded ubuntu 6.06, and booted the cd
[09:09] <`m0> Greatmetal: what is the model of the wireless device?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Greatmetal: pastebin it pelase
[09:09] <Banger1> is it a seperate CD?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> Banger1: yes
[09:09] <Banger1> when i clicked download on the server description page, it took me to the same place as normal ubuntu
[09:09] <Greatmetal> us robotics 5416 turbo pci
[09:09] <`m0> Banger1: Just press next next next
[09:10] <afflux> morgen.
[09:10] <`m0> Greatmetal: sorry m8, I never worked with it. If I had would of helped you
[09:10] <Greatmetal> okay thank you
[09:10] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Actually, I think last time I tried to do frugal it didn't let me do grub because it said something about it being SCSI or something (it was sda because it was connected on a USB enclosure) and said that grub frugal is for hda or something weird like that. LILO worked. Is LILO okay?
[09:10] <swarm> XFree86 4.3? or X.Org 6.8?
[09:11] <swarm> with ubuntu
[09:11] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: of course, I am just more familiar with grub so thats what I suggest, but lilo will work fine
[09:11] <Gun_Smoke> Banger1:  for i386 http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso
[09:12] <Greatmetal> i used ship it for my cd
[09:13] <PyroManiak> Anyone here have problems with swiftfox hard locking their machines?
[09:13] <YogSothoth> Hi
[09:14] <Greatmetal> i use firefox with fasterfox and firetune
[09:14] <Banger1> Gun_Smoke, thanks
[09:14] <Greatmetal> makes it faster
[09:14] <YogSothoth> I'm still stuck with my dualscreen setup :-) Can you have a look here?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402664#post1402664
[09:14] <meathead> hello
[09:15] <Gun_Smoke> Banger1:  No problem.. It is at the screen you were at..  So, it's letting me do grub. (I dunno what was up with it before. Maybe I'm just crazy.) Now, before I take out the hdd, I need to put the iso in it to chroot into it. So, do you know if the simple xubuntu iso has a text installer or if I have to use Ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop? If Ubuntu, then just the regular disk? Alternate? The mini.iso netinstall disk maybe?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: wait, do you want a GUI on this machine?
[09:21] <blackMOORE> how to run mp3 in ubuntu ? v5.10
[09:21] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > blackMOORE
[09:21] <FirstStrike> ...
[09:21] <blackMOORE> ty FirstStrike
[09:21] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: :) can we help you? (#gentoo has more)
[09:21] <NickGarvey> s/FirstStrike/NickGarvey/
[09:21] <ese5> !yams >> blackMOORE
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yams > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <NickGarvey> ese5: its only one >
[09:22] <NickGarvey> and yams isn't a factoid anyway
[09:22] <FirstStrike> NickGarvey: = FirstStrike?
[09:22] <ese5> oh .. oops
[09:22] <NickGarvey> FirstStrike: no, he just thanked the wrong guy hehe
[09:22] <ese5> !mp3 > blackmoore
[09:22] <FirstStrike> :P
[09:22] <Greatmetal> !wireless usr 5416
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless usr 5416 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <FirstStrike> i know
[09:22] <Flashtek> NickGarvey: i'm having a problem with usung gpsdrive and kismet together... i'm unsure if it's application specific or distro specific problem..
[09:22] <FirstStrike> i was trying not to explode with rage
[09:23] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Yes. I wanted Xubuntu. I don't want GUI on DSL because I just want to use it to install (x)ubuntu.
[09:23] <NickGarvey> rage?
[09:23] <Greatmetal> i have exploded with rage
[09:23] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok, try getting the xubuntu alternate cd
[09:23] <{}justlearningl> I'm not sure if I should ask this here or in some windows room,  I'm running xp-64 bit and it only formats drives has ntfs(no fat32) I want to part of my drive from ntfs to fat-32, should I be able to do this in unbuntu
[09:23] <FirstStrike> cause i know he's going to be back here in a day or so after he implodes his ubuntu install
[09:23] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: The text installer won't install GUI packages? If not, I'll just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, no?
[09:23] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: the alternate cd will install gui stuff
[09:23] <Greatmetal> AHHHH BOOOM MY STUPID WIFI CARD!!!! RARRRRR
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: I have never used kismet..
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: but I have a feeling it is a wireless monitoring tool
[09:24] <naa> I'll alternate cd install your stupid wifi card!
[09:24] <meathead> {}justlearningl: the short answer is: no. get a partition magic disk and do it
[09:24] <Flashtek> NickGarvey: yes it is..
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: (I love google)
[09:24] <{}justlearningl> meathead and do it in windows
[09:25] <NickGarvey> Flashtek: I have no idea how to use gpsdrive, so I don't think I will be able to help you much
[09:25] <NickGarvey> sorry :(
[09:25] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I don't think Xubuntu has an alternate cd. I think they only released a simple common cd. I never saw an alternate. I'll look. But, if I can install basic Ubuntu with no GUI that's okay too. That's better tahn Ubuntu with ubuntu-desktop because then I have to remove that before installing xubuntu-desktop.
[09:25] <NickGarvey> {}justlearningl: its very hard to convert ntfs into fat32
[09:25] <Greatmetal> not with a live cd
[09:25] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: let me check, I thought they did though
[09:25] <Flashtek> Does anyone else in here use kismet and gpsdrive together ??
[09:25] <Greatmetal> it has a partitioner
[09:25] <{}justlearningl> there is no info on the drive
[09:25] <wizard> Alt + F2 no longer brings up the run aplications
[09:26] <ardchoille> wizard: What did you change?
[09:26] <Flashtek> wizard: which desktop gnome, kde, xfce ?
[09:26] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[09:26] <Brownie> redhatter: there is a xubuntu alternate
[09:26] <wizard> ardchoille, I wish I knew.
[09:26] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I win :)
[09:26] <wizard> Flashtek, gnome
[09:26] <{}justlearningl> i just want to be able to reformat into fat-32
[09:26] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: You do.
[09:26] <{}justlearningl> unbuntu said it does not have the right to do it
[09:27] <ardchoille> wizard: Did you install xgl or compiz?
[09:27] <wizard> ardchoille, nope.
[09:27] <Greatmetal> xgl roxxors
[09:27] <NickGarvey> {}justlearningl: you can't convert, but you can erase and create
[09:27] <{}justlearningl> it saids it cant erase
[09:27] <ardchoille> wizard: Open a terminal and type: gnome-panel-control --run-dialog
[09:28] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Now, where would I go in the mounted disk to install it from the DSL shell?
[09:28] <msoul> Hello, to have gkrellm autostart I should  put it in ~/.fluxbox/autostart.sh? gkrellm -w & ?
[09:28] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: that is where I have no idea at all, but I'm sure its a script somewhere..
[09:28] <Greatmetal> yay firefox source
[09:28] <wizard> ardchoille, command not found.
[09:29] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: I don't have the alt cd so I can't skim myself, do you know whre you would look for that kind of thing?  there might be some stuff in /etc/init.d
[09:29] <Greatmetal> AHHHH BOOOM MY STUPID WIFI CARD!!!! RARRRRR
[09:29] <ardchoille> wizard: That's why ALT+F2 doesn't work anymore.. gnome-panel-control was uninstalled ;)
[09:29] <msoul> :-)
[09:29] <wizard> ardchoille, oh.
[09:29] <wizard> ardchoille, I'll try to reinstall, then.
[09:29] <wizard> Thanks.
[09:29] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[09:30] <msoul> Hmmmmm
[09:30] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: remember to mount /proc and /dev though
[09:30] <rixth> Why the fuck does Nautilus use 100% cpu when browsing an FTP server?
[09:30] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: mount -t proc none /mnt/xubuntuiso/proc
[09:30] <ardchoille> !language
[09:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:30] <NickGarvey> !language > rixth
[09:30] <rixth> Bite me.
[09:30] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: and mount -o bind /dev /mnt/xubuntuiso/dev
[09:31] <NickGarvey> I think that was a chomp not a bite
[09:31] <ardchoille> lol
[09:31] <DBO> nuts...
[09:31] <wizard> ardchoille, says gnome-panel and gnome-control-center are the newest versions allready.
[09:32] <NickGarvey> DBO: do you have swear words as highlighting words?
[09:32] <DBO> NickGarvey, certain ones yes
[09:32] <NickGarvey> I had a feeling :)
[09:32] <ardchoille> wizard: Well, somehow gnome-panel-control isn't where it's supposed to be.
[09:32] <Greatmetal> hmm someone try it :P
[09:33] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: you know how to mount an iso?
[09:33] <ardchoille> wizard: You might try re-installing gnome-panel
[09:33] <afflux> mount -f iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point afaik
[09:33] <NickGarvey> what he said ^
[09:33] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:34] <afflux> oh. i havent seen the "you know"... i thought you asked
[09:34] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: GRUB is giving me GRUB error 15 when I tried to boot from the GRUB frugal install. Do you know what that is?
[09:34] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: oh boy.. one second
[09:34] <Greatmetal> i hate non working wireless
[09:34] <wizard> ardchoille, didn't change anything.  I uninstalled and reinstalled.  Still cannot access gnome-panel-control
[09:34] <vouzico> hi#
[09:34] <ardchoille> wizard: killall gnome-panel
[09:35] <ardchoille> wizard: it'll re-spawn
[09:35] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: is the kernel its looking for in the right spot?
[09:35] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Just wanted to let you know, meanwhile, that you are being a tremendous help. I really appreciate it.
[09:35] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: How do you mean? Maybe it's because before, the partition was sda1, and now it's hda1 in the other computer?
[09:37] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: :) thanks, and from what I read, error 15 means it can't find the kernel, would you be able to pastebin the grub.conf? (if you can't it would be understandable sense you don't have the system working)
[09:37] <wizard> ardchoille, Thanks for the effort.  I'll just live with it xD
[09:38] <Greatmetal> yay my firefox source is done unpacking
[09:38] <ardchoille> wizard: Well, I would advise you to re-trace your steps and try to figure out why it isn't working.
[09:38] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I suppose. Can Windows read ext3? (I'll mount the HDD on my Windows machine. Otherwise, if Win can't, I'll boot into DSL by CD on another computer and pastebin it.)
[09:39] <timalot> why are there no changelogs anymore when the update notifies you of updated packages?
[09:39] <afflux> RadHatter: windows cant read ext3 natively, but someone wrote drivers
[09:40] <afflux> RadHatter: but dont ask me where you can find them
[09:40] <timalot> do people just bindly update ubuntu nowdays?
[09:40] <meathead> I just typed rm blah.txt, does it go to recycle bin?
[09:40] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: yes, windos can ext3
[09:40] <NickGarvey> !ext3 > RadHatter
[09:40] <meathead> can I ever recover what I just deleted?
[09:40] <msoul> Could you guys tell me how can I autostart gkrellm? (FluxBox)
[09:42] <meathead> I just typed rm blah.txt, does it go to recycle bin?
[09:42] <meathead> can I ever recover what I just deleted?
[09:45] <ardchoille> Who turned out the lights?
[09:45] <ardchoille> lol
[09:45] <Flannel> argh.  another one?
[09:46] <nick_> what just.. hat?
[09:46] <cef> seems so
[09:46] <nick_> okie then
[09:46] <Flannel> nick_: it's a netsplit.  Please keep your hands and arms inside your IRC client until it comes to a complete stop.
[09:46] <NickGarvey> Flannel: ;) I know
[09:46] <NickGarvey> just kicked in
[09:46] <ardchoille> Flannel: haha
[09:47] <NickGarvey> because I got really really bad lag
[09:47] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I got disconnected. I see you were too.  When I mounted sda1 in a mounting point, I see nothing there. I do mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t ext2 and then I ls inside /mnt/sda1 but see nothing.
[09:47] <ardchoille> weeeeeee
[09:47] <Corporal_Dirge> I've been trying to get dual monitors for a few months now. I can't seem to find out what's wrong.
[09:47] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: that could be why things didn't work :)
[09:47] <davin> whoa
[09:48] <davin> bots!
[09:48] <Flannel> no, not bots.  netsplit.
[09:48] <davin> ah
[09:48] <NickGarvey> !netsplit
[09:48] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:48] <christina83> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[09:48] <davin> Phew
[09:49] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: But I don't even see GRUB or anything. Where did grub come from when I booted from the disk? Doesn't it have any files? Anyway, I think I'll just do a regular grub install because that worked. :) I can still install Xubuntu from there, right?
[09:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: grub installs to the mbr
[09:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: (main boot record)
[09:49] <Corporal_Dirge> Any xorg.conf experts here?
[09:49] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: um, anyway, something did NOT work with that install if tehre are no files
[09:50] <RPGBot> hi
[09:50] <vouzico> NickGarvey > Master Boot Record ;)
[09:50] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Haha. I know mbr (but only because it's Windowsy as well... I'm so pathetic). Anyway, doesn't GRUB have a config file? Well, I guess that's why GRUB wasn't happy.
[09:50] <NickGarvey> vouzico: close enough :)
[09:50] <davin> Corporal_Drige: whats your problem?
[09:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: yes, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:50] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: but if nothing installed.. then that won't be there.. and things will get messy
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> davin, I can't get dual monitors working.
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> davin, I've been working on it for months.
[09:51] <davin> Corporal_Dirge: Sorry, I never tried dual monitors, so I cant help you on that
[09:51] <davin> There might be someone here who knows though
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> davin, Doubt it.
[09:51] <RPGBot> I know this isnt probably the best place to ask, but if I have the input & output how can I figure out how it was encoded?
[09:52] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: you still with me?
[09:52] <davin> Corporal_Dirge: try #xorg
[09:52] <NickGarvey> RPGBot: I don't understand, and I suggest changing your nick to something without the word bot in it
[09:53] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:53] <dalfz> where can i read about installing fglrx ati driver?
[09:53] <XiP> ok, I have the input (let's say "001") and the output (lets say de56ffdcde9bfb2a08b7a49a67539c9c) how can i find out how something processed it?
[09:53] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: I am.
[09:53] <Flannel> XiP: you can't.  You could guess, depending on lots of things. like length, characters, etc.  but, theres no surefire way
[09:54] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: okie
[09:54] <ardchoille> !ati > dalfz
[09:54] <dalfz> thanks ardchoille
[09:54] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok, is anything happening?
[09:54] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[09:54] <XiP> Flannel: I could process it again with a different input, Im sure that helps...
[09:54] <avis> quite alot of things are happening at this moment, take quantium mechanics for instance
[09:54] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: The problem is, I am chatting with you on the big Windows desktop upstairs and using the laptop downstairs to install DSL on the hdd and I have the old laptop in the next room. So I keep running around the place.
[09:55] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: hehe, set up ssh yet?
[09:55] <exs> RadHatter,  then put your computers near each other
[09:55] <Flannel> XiP: right, you'll have to do quite a bit, and then quite a bit of thinking to figure out how it works.  That looks like an MD5 hash, but really most hashes look similar.
[09:56] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Right now I'm installing a regular DSL (not frugal) with GRUB.
[09:56] <RadHatter> exs: That's a grand idea.
[09:56] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: ok
[09:56] <shaantanu> !pastebin
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:56] <exs> RadHatter, I know.
[09:56] <XiP> Flannel: It does indeed look like an md5 hash (that output i gave wasnt the actual output) I know theres different kinds of using md5, how does different md5 hashes differ
[09:56] <avis> hi ompaul
[09:57] <NickGarvey> XiP: md5 hashs should not differ..
[09:57] <Flannel> XiP: I'm no expert, I'm sure you could find better places (probably channels here) to ask and get better answers ;)
[09:57] <NickGarvey> XiP: thats why they are used for verifing files..
[09:57] <XiP> Flannel: any suggestions?
[09:57] <ompaul> 'lo avis
[09:57] <ardchoille> XiP: #linux ?
[09:58] <XiP> NickGarvey: Yeah i know they're used to check files, also for passwords (what im doing now)
[09:58] <Flannel> XiP: #crypto might also be a good one
[09:58] <shaantanu> guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[09:58] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: whats the problem?
[09:58] <shaantanu> no sound
[09:58] <shaantanu> :(
[09:59] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: what have you tried so far?
[09:59] <shaantanu> I tried ubuntuguide.org
[09:59] <avis> i had a question.  i thought tonight i could get into linux programming.  what i do not know is what language is most suited for me and what types of programs would be needed to coded by small companies and or larger ones.  also need the programing language to have full documentation on the web.
[09:59] <shaantanu> and changed my sound.config i guess
[10:00] <shaantanu> that caused the problem
[10:00] <RadHatter> exs: So, I just went downstairs, with the intention of moving the computers upstairs when it hit me why I didn't move them before because Iw as thinking to myself, "Why haven't I thought of moving the computers upstairs myself... oh wait, I have." The problem is I only have one ethernet cable going upstairs, the router is downstairs, and wireless won't receive upstairs because of distance from router.
[10:00] <shaantanu> I also restored the backup created ... but now m clueless
[10:00] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: try dpkg-reconfigure alsasound (or something like that)
[10:00] <shaantanu> Nick: plz gimme the exact command
[10:01] <NickGarvey> shaantanu: I don't know it
[10:01] <shaantanu> k
[10:01] <ashik> can any body help me how to localize a software?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> root__: I suggest.. not being root on irc
[10:01] <lassegs> i dont know if this is offtopic but i dont know where to go. I used gparted to format hda1, which is a NTFS partition, and now the computer wont boot. It just says "Disk Error". Help please
[10:01] <ashik> can any body help me how to localize a software?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> lassegs: you did want to delete windows right?
[10:02] <ashik> can any body help me how to localize a software?
[10:02] <RadHatter> ashik: Like, your own software that you are writing or the interface for Ubuntu and its software?
[10:02] <shaantanu> avis : If u exclusivly talking abt linux ... go for perl and python
[10:02] <shaantanu> both have tons of free documentation available
[10:03] <ompaul> back end of a netsplit methinks
[10:03] <Alex> ...wtf
[10:03] <shaantanu> wtf
[10:03] <ashik> RadHatter:  the interface for Ubuntu and its software?
[10:03] <scapor>  is fglrx broken in edgy ?  Seems it doesn't work with the xserver-xorg ABI version ?
[10:03] <shaantanu> mod do something
[10:03] <NickGarvey> RadHatter: its 4 in the morning and my mom noticed I am up heh, so I need to go, good luck, and ask someone about "chroot ubuntu installs" in the future
[10:03] <NickGarvey> good night
[10:03] <DBO> what do you want, the netsplit is rejoining shaantanu
[10:03] <ashik> RadHatter:  the interface for Ubuntu and its software?
[10:03] <ompaul> no onecan do anything for a moment
[10:03] <shaantanu> spammers are attacking the cj=hannel
[10:04] <RadHatter> NickGarvey: Sure. Thanks for all the help.
[10:04] <DBO> shaantanu, no they arent, the people who got netsplitted just rejoined shaantanu
[10:04] <Nick{Away}> !netsplit > shaantanu
[10:04] <exs> RadHatter,  ahh, this is where it gets complex.. Exs recommends that you buy another ethernet cable.. God has just spoken.
[10:04] <shaantanu> ohh
[10:04] <shaantanu> I saw this for the first time
[10:04] <ompaul> we usually have over 800 in here
[10:04] <DShepherd> hehe.. 800 .. nice step from breezy usual number
[10:05] <lassegs> !netsplit > lassegs
[10:05] <scapor> !netsplit > scapor
[10:05] <RadHatter> ashik: Go into synaptic and search for the name of the language (like, say, arabic). It's gonna find packages like language-pack-ar (I think ar is the abbreviation for arabic). Install them.
[10:05] <RadHatter> Then go into language preferences and pick your language.
[10:06] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[10:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:06] <RadHatter> Or actually, if you go into language preferences and choose your language, I think it takes care of packages itself.
[10:06] <ailean> RedHatter, yes, it does
[10:07] <shaantanu> guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[10:08] <shaantanu> anybody ??
[10:08] <zac> hello
[10:09] <zac> any1 here?
[10:09] <Mementh> howdy folks.. i have some questions about ubuntu... First can i install it onto a NTFS drive.. or only a linux/fat32 drive? (is there a easy way to convert a free space to fat32/linux capable to use ubuntu?) How easy is it to setup dual booting with windows XP already installed (i don't want to jump fully) Is there a Live disk i could use?
[10:09] <KurtKraut> Mementh, only ono a Linux partition.
[10:09] <shaantanu> mementh .... check out www.ubuntu.org
[10:09] <FirstStrike> !dualboot > Mementh
[10:09] <Mementh> shaantanu i am but i did not see a FAQ imeditally
[10:10] <shaantanu> will solve most of ur probs
[10:10] <shaantanu> sorry I meant http://www.ubuntu.com/
[10:10] <Mementh> ummm
[10:10] <ahFeel_> hi :)
[10:10] <shaantanu> it has the answer to all ur questions
[10:10] <KurtKraut> Mementh, dual boot is completely easy
[10:10] <Mementh> FirstStrike page not found
[10:10] <FirstStrike> hmm
[10:10] <FirstStrike> i guess it's messed up
[10:10] <shaantanu> dual boot is easy and ubuntu auto configures it
[10:11] <ahFeel_> i have a problem with my dual screen on an nvidia card, everything's ok in fact, but i just want to change the default screen... could anybody help m ?
[10:11] <FirstStrike> if you already have windows installed on the drive you're going to need to resize the partition though
[10:11] <FirstStrike> windows by default (unless you change it during install) formats the entire drive as NTFS
[10:11] <Mementh> shaantanu how much space should i reserve for ubuntu and how to i resize my drive?
[10:11] <shaantanu> depends on ur RAM
[10:11] <Mementh> shaantanu 1 gig ram
[10:11] <shaantanu> preferably 2 * RAM shud be kept as swap
[10:12] <A-Kaser> Hi, I would like to know if it's possible to have a .ss/know_hosts with IP addres in clear and not encoded, because bash_completion don't work with encoded ?
[10:12] <shaantanu> and preferably 10 GB + shud be kept as ext3 (for linux)
[10:12] <FirstStrike> Mementh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:12] <Mementh> shaantanu ext3?
[10:12] <shaantanu> (the file system for linux)
[10:12] <Mementh> so i am going to need about say 15 gigs free
[10:12] <shaantanu> Mementh PM me
[10:13] <tic0> Where does ubuntu store the file that has all the top panel icon info?
[10:13] <shaantanu> guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[10:14] <tic0> I lost my top panel and need to copy the one that belongs to another user. Anyone know where the config file is?
[10:14] <poningru> Mementh: uh.. there are other clients that do irc
[10:14] <poningru> infact mirc is a pretty crappy client
[10:14] <shaantanu> GAIM for instance
[10:14] <shaantanu> its bull shit
[10:14] <Mementh> :(
[10:14] <poningru> shaantanu: eew
[10:15] <shaantanu> and is for windows only
[10:15] <Mementh> shaantanu can't msg you
[10:15] <poningru> yeah I dont like gaim either
[10:15] <ardchoille> Mementh: There's xchat, gaim, bitchx, irssi and more
[10:15] <FirstStrike> you need to register with nickservs to send PMs
[10:15] <poningru> its not really an irc client
[10:15] <FirstStrike> xchat is a great client
[10:15] <FirstStrike> another favorite is irssi
[10:15] <poningru> yeah
[10:15] <Mementh> ardchoille but... eww... i want something that i can understand already :(
[10:15] <FirstStrike> and there's no nagware in either.
[10:15] <Mementh> shaantanu i can read you but
[10:15] <FirstStrike> wait wait
[10:16] <ardchoille> Mementh: Moving to a new OS is gonna require some learning ;)
[10:16] <Mementh> FirstStrike also i bought mirc a while back
[10:16] <FirstStrike> why are you installing linux if you want something that you can understand already?
[10:16] <Mementh> ardchoille not really... i use firefox and thunderbird already
[10:16] <shaantanu> poningru : I disagree
[10:16] <FirstStrike> you're in for a whole new world. some of the apps may be the same but there are many that aren't.
[10:16] <Mementh> Firetech i want to play some.. to "dip my toe in the water"
[10:16] <shaantanu> achha leave that help me with this guys m having a problem with my sound ... plz help me , heres my aplay --list-devices http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[10:16] <poningru> meh to each his own
[10:16] <FirstStrike> you need to want to learn if you're going to use linux
[10:17] <poningru> FirstStrike: meh not really
[10:17] <poningru> there isnt really much to learn
[10:17] <Mementh> Firetech my goal is to learn a bit about ubuntu and use it more and more.. eventually only needing windows for itunes and gaming
[10:17] <poningru> atleast imho
[10:17] <FirstStrike> i'm sure he knows nothing about apt-get/aptitude/dpkg/compiling from source
[10:17] <poningru> Mementh: why do you want to stick with itunes?
[10:17] <FirstStrike> that's the basics
[10:17] <poningru> FirstStrike: and he doesnt need to
[10:18] <poningru> FirstStrike: synaptic
[10:18] <poningru> or add/remove
[10:18] <Mementh> Firetech i also want to convert my other computer that i use for small web page for myself to ubuntu for more reliability
[10:18] <Mementh> poncho1 direct support for my ipod
[10:18] <poningru> those two are availble for new windows users by default
[10:18] <FirstStrike> so, what happens if synaptic breaks? what if he needs a dependency for something and it's not in synaptic?
[10:18] <FirstStrike> it's not all a cake walk
[10:18] <Mementh> is there java support in ubuntu?
[10:18] <poningru> FirstStrike: what happens if apt-get breaks?
[10:18] <FirstStrike> ...yes
[10:19] <Mementh> Firetech was that a reply to me?
[10:19] <poningru> !java
[10:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:19] <Mementh> lol
[10:19] <hayden> can anyone suggest a java ide i can use with ubuntu?
[10:19] <FirstStrike> poningru: such is the nature of users that don't know what they're installing. they break their OS.
[10:19] <kindor> anyone on UK line can try traceroute fs.ocompany.com please?
[10:19] <poningru> hayden: eclipse
[10:20] <Mementh> shaantanu give me a min i am regging
[10:20] <poningru> FirstStrike: I have to disagree
[10:20] <FirstStrike> just sitting in this channel i've seen so many people completely lost on even the basics.
[10:20] <tic0> can anyone help me?
[10:20] <poningru> tic0:
[10:20] <poningru> whatsup
[10:21] <tic0> i deleted my top panel from ubuntu gnome and i was wondering where the file is stored that sets all that up so i can copy the one from root
[10:21] <FirstStrike> i don't know what you're disagreeing about..but whatever. This isn't the place for it.
[10:21] <poningru> tic0: right click on the bottom panel
[10:21] <poningru> and new panel
[10:21] <tic0> yes i know how to recreate it
[10:22] <poningru> then?
[10:22] <tic0> but the original panel had some icons i cant find
[10:22] <poningru> ah... what did these icons do?
[10:22] <tic0> like network manager, nm-applet did not work
[10:22] <FirstStrike> right click on the panel
[10:22] <poningru> tic0: its under add to panel
[10:22] <FirstStrike> click Add to panel
[10:22] <poningru> FirstStrike: #bs?
[10:22] <poningru> err wrong network
[10:23] <poningru> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <poningru> ?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> not worth it.
[10:23] <Mementh> FirstStrike how do i resize a partition in windows (secondary drive) so that i have enough free space to try out ubuntu
[10:23] <tic0> i tried add to panel i do not see network manager
[10:24] <poningru> tic0: search for network monitor
[10:24] <poningru> Mementh: use a gparted livecd
[10:24] <tic0> monitor is already on the toolbar its network manager i need
[10:24] <Mementh> poningru what
[10:24] <FirstStrike> Mementh: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[10:24] <FirstStrike> follow that guide
[10:24] <FirstStrike> it walks you through everything
[10:25] <Mementh> k
[10:26] <poningru> ooh that is actually pretty good
[10:26] <Mementh> is there a "live cd" though of ubuntu that can be tried out?
[10:26] <Flannel> Mementh: the desktop iso
[10:26] <FirstStrike> Mementh: the iso you download off the site is the livecd
[10:26] <FirstStrike> you can choose to install it once you boot into it
[10:27] <tic0> so theres no file perhaps that stores the panel info?
[10:27] <Mementh> FirstStrike so i can just burn the CD and run it and play aroudn with ubuntu some and not have to risk the acutal installation?
[10:28] <Flannel> Mementh: right
[10:28] <FirstStrike> yeppers
[10:28] <Sethalos> Hello everyone
[10:28] <Mementh> cool..
[10:28] <FirstStrike> it'll be a little slower because it's running off the cd but you'll have all the features of the full installation
[10:28] <Mementh> is there a .torrent of the latest ubuntu ?
[10:28] <FirstStrike> you can even mount your windows drive
[10:28] <FirstStrike> yes
[10:28] <FirstStrike> there's a direct download too
[10:28] <Flannel> Mementh: yep, that download page has them
[10:29] <Mementh> FirstStrike thats ok.. i can deal with being a slight bit slow
[10:29] <Mementh> Firetech why use a direct download when i can save server bandwidth
[10:29] <Sethalos> I have a question I was hoping I could get an answer to. I'm trying to install java for an app i'm using (first time ever using Linux) and it doesn't seem to install for me..goes through the motions, but I keep getting an error that Java is not installed, I'm wondering if maybe i'm doing something wrong installing it.
[10:29] <croach> what might be wrong cause i cant lock my screen in ubuntu
[10:29] <croach> when i click the "lockthescreen" nothing happens
[10:30] <Mementh> Firetech does the "server" version also have that same live option?
[10:30] <FirstStrike> Sethalos: you can install java via synaptic
[10:30] <FirstStrike> the server version is different
[10:31] <FirstStrike> it's straight up meant for servers
[10:31] <poningru> !java > Sethalos
[10:31] <FirstStrike> i don't recommend it for you
[10:31] <Madpilot> Mementh, there's no desktop - no graphics - on the server version
[10:31] <Sethalos> Ok, let me see if i can manage to figure that out..thanks
[10:31] <poningru> Mementh: I would have to agree with FirstStrike on this
[10:31] <tic0> is there a file for the panels?
[10:32] <poningru> Sethalos: did you get the link ubotu just sent you?
[10:32] <croach> can i lockthe screen from terminal?
[10:32] <Mementh> dang.. ok i saw it had LAMP already pre-configured and thought it would be good for my old 1 ghz server computer currently doing wap
[10:32] <Sethalos> Yes, heading there now
[10:32] <DarkRain> hello?
[10:32] <DarkRain> need some help.
[10:32] <Mementh> is it easy to install apache, php, and mysql?
[10:32] <poningru> Mementh: you plan on running a lamp server from this?
[10:33] <poningru> Mementh: yes
[10:33] <prodigy60> hey all, sorry to bother everyone, was wondering if someone could give me a hand with a folder mount issue; trying to mount a folder on a ntfs partition as a cdrom device and its not going so well
[10:33] <Benny> d
[10:33] <solete> ola
[10:33] <Mementh> poningru on my 1ghz computer yes.. its currently running win2k apache and php
[10:33] <poningru> prodigy60: uh what do you mean mount as a cd device?
[10:33] <poningru> Mementh: ah
[10:33] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl compiling a new kernel it been over and hour now (pIII900) any ideas how long it will take
[10:34] <poningru> prodigy60: you mean loop?
[10:34] <DarkRain> how do you edit the grub boot loader file? I edited a partition and now I have to edit the boot parameters every time I boot up.
[10:34] <poningru> Benny: cant help if you dont ask your question
[10:34] <Mementh> poningru its only got 128 megs ram
[10:34] <poningru> Mementh: I would not try to play with live cd then
[10:35] <poningru> Mementh: just install it then... but that might be a bit frustrating.. and might be dangerous, google around for security guides to setting up such servers
[10:35] <prodigy60> poningru:  that sounds familiar, i think so... story goes i'm trying to get dvd::rip to work, and i have a folder on my win partition with all the dvd files, and would like to be able to mount the folder as the cdrom (like an iso in windows, sorta) so i can rip from it
[10:35] <Mementh> poningru explain... this computer has 1 gig ram.. its ok to play with?
[10:35] <KenSentMe> DarkRain: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:35] <dalfz> how do i setup wireless networking needing wpa_supplicant?
[10:35] <DarkRain> KenSentMe: thanks so much
[10:35] <poningru> Mementh: yeah a gig of ram is enough for live cd
[10:35] <FirstStrike> ..what?
[10:36] <dibblego> what would I use to symmetrically encrypt a file?
[10:36] <FirstStrike> prodigy60: do you already have your windows drive mounted? and what kind of file are you trying to mount?
[10:36] <Mementh> poningru i plan on getting a second hard drive to install ubuntu on ther other computer
[10:36] <triplc> hello everyone
[10:36] <Sethalos> That did the trick, thanks very much everyone!!
[10:36] <triplc> i'd like to know how to get the duo core work
[10:37] <triplc> i've install xubuntu 6.06.1
[10:37] <prodigy60> FirstStrike:  i've ripped the files in windows because of css encryption issues, but the problem is getting the files to my nix partition to be "ripped" by dvd::rip, thought about just mounting that folder as a device so i can rip from it
[10:37] <triplc> then install "linux-image-server" which has "smp"
[10:37] <DarkRain> I love the code coloring in Kwrite (used it in mepis) cant someone tell me how to either, install kwrite, or if gedit can do something similar?
[10:37] <triplc> in place of the old linux-image-686.
[10:37] <triplc> however, when i run: "htop" i can see only one cpu
[10:38] <triplc> not dual cpu bars
[10:38] <meathead> my cdrom I don't think is installed right, everytime I try to write a cd I get a IO error
[10:38] <FirstStrike> prodigy60: if you already ripped the files on windows..why don't you just copy the ripped files over to your linux drive?
[10:39] <cd> well
[10:39] <FirstStrike> well
[10:39] <prodigy60> FirstStrike:  oh, yeah, the partition is setup to auto mount, i have physical access to it, just cant figure out how to mount that folder so its recognized as a cdrom filesystem... dvd::rip is setup to rip directly from a cdrom and doesnt seem to work if it hasnt ripped files itself
[10:39] <meathead> it thinks it's installed as hdd
[10:39] <triplc> can you please help to make SMP working for dual core chip
[10:40] <FirstStrike> you're not going to be able to mount a folder as a cdrom
[10:41] <cd> anyone from China ?
[10:41] <KenSentMe> !cn > cd
[10:41] <Mementh> does anyone know of a good OPEN SOURCE CD/DVD burning program comperable to nero when it was at its best
[10:41] <croach> Can anyone help me ?
[10:41] <noiesmo> Mementh, k3b
[10:41] <debuntu> !cn
[10:41] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:41] <Mementh> noiesmo windows versions?
[10:41] <FirstStrike> Mementh: there's nero for linux.
[10:41] <cd> !cn
[10:42] <meathead> he said OPEN SOURCE in really capital letters
[10:42] <prodigy60> FirstStrike:  eh, no worries i guess, thanks =)
[10:42] <meathead> so he doesn't want the obvious and perfectly valid answer of use nerolinux
[10:42] <noiesmo> Mementh, no linux only
[10:42] <Mementh> darn
[10:42] <meathead> thepiratebay.org has a sale on nerolinux
[10:42] <FirstStrike> well, there's always pirating.
[10:43] <FirstStrike> that's how i got nerolinux
[10:43] <Mementh> hmmm
[10:43] <sioux> people seems that screen resolution is unstable with ubuntu. Sometimes when I boot up the system the screnn resolution goes to 640x480 and when I reboot it returns normal. More over often the gdm screen resolution is nerver stable sometimes it goes to 1024x768 and others time goes to 1280x1024. It happen to some of you too?
[10:43] <prodigy60> isnt that how everyone gets everything?
[10:43] <meathead> I bought mine from an advertisement on thepiratebay.org.
[10:43] <FirstStrike> pretty much
[10:43] <FirstStrike> otherwise, k3b is your next best bet
[10:43] <triplc> can any one please help me to make smp works for the dual core cpu. I just install xubuntu 6.06.1, then seeing that the default kernel does not support smp (using "uname -a"), i install linux-image-server. Then "uname -a" says that it has smp support. However when i run "htop", it only see 1 cpu. please help me. if i miss something, please tell me.
[10:43] <prodigy60> scrapetorrent ftw =)
[10:44] <FirstStrike> triplc: sorry, don't know anything about that.
[10:44] <FirstStrike> google is perhaps your best friend
[10:44] <DarkRain> Mementh: I second the k3b notion, I find it much more reliable, stable, faster, and easier to use then nero..
[10:45] <prodigy60> i'm out, thx for the help, night all, good luck!
[10:45] <triplc> do ubuntu have any other kernel package (instead of linux-image-server) that support SMP?
[10:45] <tic0> does anyone know the folder/file that the top panel is stored in?
[10:45] <DarkRain> noiesmo: I AGREE!
[10:46] <croach> how can i get my lock screen to work again?
[10:46] <DarkRain> in fact, k3b was one of linux's big selling points for me.
[10:46] <DarkRain> nero sucks...
[10:46] <noiesmo> FirstStrike, Well I run kde but even mates who use gnome aren't worried about a few kde bits
[10:46] <debuntu> just use cdrecord and cdrdao from the command line .. that's all k3b is a frontend to
[10:47] <noiesmo> debuntu, yes but gui's are nice
[10:47] <debuntu> you can even google the command and paste it in, i'm sure
[10:47] <sioux> darkrain nero is not free
[10:47] <SanketMedhi> debuntu: can you convert between formats on the command line? :)
[10:47] <FirstStrike> nero pretty much does the same thing. it's certainly not more difficult.
[10:47] <debuntu> not nice enough to run one only to burn cds
[10:48] <noiesmo> and when showing windows users gnu/linux the cli is the last thing they want to see it seems to scare them
[10:48] <meathead> cdrecord and cdrdao does dvd's too?
[10:48] <FirstStrike> sioux: sure it is.
[10:48] <debuntu> noiesmo, i don't care too much about scaring ppl
[10:48] <sioux> no nero require a purcias key
[10:48] <debuntu> meathead, use growisofs for dvds
[10:48] <meathead> gui's are nice because you don't have to deal with mistyping a bunch of stuff out and then going back and fixing it
[10:48] <meathead> you just check boxes
[10:48] <Mementh> yeah
[10:48] <Shubuntu> sioux: I know, I kinda regret paying for it now that I dont use it anymore.
[10:48] <sioux> you must buy a key to run for ever nero
[10:48] <dalfz> what's the best mp3 player in ubuntu? i'm used to xmms, but that's old
[10:49] <debuntu> you only have to type it right once and save it to a file
[10:49] <meathead> ahh, so to replace nerolinux you use cdrdao, cdrecord, growisofs. three for one deal.
[10:49] <FirstStrike> sioux: or download the key.
[10:49] <meathead> that's not confusing at all
[10:49] <debuntu> then you could easily make it into an executable script and type the name of the script
[10:49] <sioux> firststrike to download the key you must pay
[10:49] <FirstStrike> lol
[10:49] <sioux> rigth?
[10:50] <FirstStrike> not if you're pirating it
[10:50] <debuntu> meathead, yeah, not confusing .. about as confusing as selecting menus in nero
[10:50] <Shubuntu> Dalfz: I like Kaffine, but keep in mind you need to install the restricted codec packs for mp3 to work in ubuntu.
[10:50] <sioux> why I need pirating when k3b does the same for free?
[10:50] <FirstStrike> that's fine for you
[10:51] <meathead> yeah man, totally. three programs. all with equally confusing names alone. why install simple gui and use it intuitively when you could read three man pages for three different programs to learn how to use them
[10:51] <sioux> k3b works fine with kde, now I getting some problem with ubuntu
[10:51] <Shubuntu> I hated nero on windows, and I see no reason to try it on linux
[10:51] <meathead> way easier
[10:51] <meathead> infact, what am I doing here. I'm gonna go read man pages
[10:51] <meathead> later
[10:52] <FirstStrike> it's pretty simplified. i mean..burn image or..copy folders and burn.
[10:52] <FirstStrike> if it was freeware i'm sure a bunch of people would be using it
[10:52] <Shubuntu> Ive got another question: does anyone know of a program that will convert my entire media library (mp3) into something a little more linux friendly like OGG?
[10:53] <muhammad> heey i hv prob ihv deleted the oem accoun by chance and now am not able to login with this account agian i tried to create it again but it gives me error message
[10:53] <sioux> to my oppinion k3b miss only in two things: 1 - cancel DVD as it for CD; 2 - Create a bootable cd or DVD
[10:53] <FirstStrike> why do people delete things for no reason?
[10:53] <debuntu> why read man pages when you could google it .. someone else has done the hard work already
[10:53] <muhammad> how can i backup it i hv the /home/oem  folder i want create user with that /home/oem how can i do that ?
[10:53] <Shubuntu> Firststrike: thats not so bad, I once got a tech support call about someone who deleted the windows folder... god knows how they did that.
[10:54] <kestas> are SATA HDDs compatible with non-SATA computers?
[10:54] <FirstStrike> ...
[10:54] <martii> hi i installed XGL on nvidia and alt-tab windows switching stopped working
[10:54] <meathead> muhammad: boot the desktop cd and mount your OS as the partition, then type passwd to change the root password
[10:54] <martii> any clue what's wrong?
[10:54] <martii> !xgl
[10:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:54] <meathead> kestas: no
[10:54] <kestas> Shubuntu: I had a friend that moved his windows folder into his start menu
[10:54] <FirstStrike> kestas: did you even read what you typed? :>
[10:54] <Shubuntu> Kestas: ouch.
[10:54] <kestas> FirstStrike: I thought maybe they were backwards compatible, like EIDE, it's not so ridiculous if you don't already know
[10:54] <muhammad> meathead u mean the alternate cd ?
[10:55] <FirstStrike> you need a mobo that supports sata
[10:55] <kestas> I see
[10:55] <FirstStrike> i believe there are converters you can use though
[10:55] <Shubuntu> Ive heard a legend of someone who decided that she should organize all the windows folder files
[10:55] <FirstStrike> but i don't have all the details
[10:55] <meathead> muhammad: I mean the live cd
[10:56] <chemaja> Shubuntu, my dumbass friend managed to delete his XP install's system32 folder
[10:56] <meathead> muhammad: any live linux cd
[10:56] <chemaja> Shubuntu, s/friend/colleague
[10:56] <muhammad> meathead oke
[10:56] <chemaja> quick, someone convince me not to install fedora
[10:56] <damian_> I need help
[10:56] <chemaja> im like a crack addict that has to try new distros
[10:56] <Shubuntu> Chemaja. DONT TOUCH THAT... EW!
[10:56] <chemaja> i need rehab
[10:57] <ompaul> chemaja, don't do it, it is not what you want, we have a better type here
[10:57] <Shubuntu> Chemaga, its unstable, evil, slow, and for fux sake its a redhat product.
[10:57] <chemaja> Shubuntu, heh
[10:57] <Madpilot> Is there a secure deletion method that works with ext3 formatting?
[10:57] <kestas> chemaja: in the linux arena rhel is where the money is
[10:57] <chemaja> Shubuntu, the thing that annoys me about Ubuntu is they unnecessarily change upstream (cite: the custom logout dialog) -- what's with that?
[10:57] <dalfz> isn't the opera browser a part of ubuntu packages?
[10:57] <kestas> chemaja: so it's work learning fedora
[10:57] <Mementh> can anyone tell me why its safe for linux to re-size a NTFS drive but not safe for it to write to it?
[10:58] <chemaja> kestas, "work"? -- fedora's pretty easy IMHO
[10:58] <Madpilot> dalfz, it's installable - use Add/Remove Apps and search for Opera
[10:58] <kestas> chemaja: s/work/worth/
[10:58] <dalfz> aye, thanks
[10:58] <Shubuntu> chemaja: I havnt been able to get anything newer then core 4 to boot.
[10:58] <Shubuntu> chemaja, and it was terribly slow and buggy.
[10:58] <chemaja> Shubuntu, really? on what h/w?
[10:59] <chemaja> i should just be quiet and learn how to un-mangle Ubuntu's custom hacks -- or just ignore it
[10:59] <chemaja> *sighs*
[10:59] <meathead> how do you list your cdroms in console?
[10:59] <Madpilot> Shubuntu & chemaja - chat about other distros can move to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, please
[10:59] <chemaja> (or prowl the dev lists for reasoning as to the change)
[10:59] <chemaja> Madpilot, aye-aye
[10:59] <meathead> I think mine is installed as the wrong thing
[11:00] <Shubuntu> Madpilot, just keeping the populace with ubuntu. :P
[11:00] <Shubuntu> hehe.
[11:00] <YogSothoth> I'm still stuck with my dualscreen setup :-) Can you have a look here?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402664#post1402664
[11:00] <duckdown> Hey all... Got a question...  I run 2 computers here at home, one of them is Windows (Blech), and one obviously Ubuntu..  Both are on the same router, and both systems have programs that require ident responses (Secured sites)..  I can only open port 113 on one computer, and if I run an identd daemon here on Ubuntu then the Windows machine can't see/respond to ident requests.  What is the solution here?
[11:00] <ikonia> Hello Ubuntu'ers. Could someone with dvb-apps install please make the file "uk-Mendip" availble for me to check my configuration against
[11:01] <dalfz> Madpilot: i'm trying to search for it in synaptic package manager, is that ok? I can't find "opera" though.
[11:01] <chemaja> was the Quit dialog custom in Breezy too?
[11:02] <jujimufu> I try to install the i810 drivers from dri.freedesktop.org and I get this error:
[11:02] <Madpilot> dalfz, I think it's only installable thru Add/Remove, for some odd reason
[11:02] <dibblego> how do I modify a user so that they do not have sudo privileges?
[11:02] <jujimufu> The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[11:02] <jujimufu> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[11:02] <jujimufu> what went wrong.
[11:02] <jujimufu> and in the dri.log file it says "no kernel configuration file found"
[11:02] <meathead> change the port from 113
[11:02] <Madpilot> chemaja, I think so; I liked the Breezy one better, really. Dapper's logout box  is so massive...
[11:02] <duckdown> meathead> but aren't ident requests only sent to 113?
[11:03] <Shubuntu> Chemaja, how do you customize the quit box?
[11:03] <bjorn-> When I download the latest version of Opera I get the package manager .. however, I cannot update it cause it conflicts with my existing installation .. how do I remove the existing one? Can't find Opera in the Applications -> Add/Remove tool
[11:04] <chemaja> Shubuntu, i have *no* idea. i'm currently trawling ubuntu-desktop mailling list for reasons why they felt the need to change it
[11:04] <Madpilot> bjorn-, it should be there... the Ubuntu .deb from Opera's download site works nicely too, though.
[11:04] <meathead> duckdown: I don't know, but that's the only POSSIBLE solution I see to the problem, maybe you can change it
[11:04] <meathead> who cares about ident?
[11:04] <duckdown> They're required on secured FTP sites
[11:05] <duckdown> things like glftpd need ident responses
[11:05] <meathead> oh
[11:05] <meathead> i see
[11:05] <duckdown> :(  Thanks for the suggestion
[11:06] <Joshbeat> whats the best FPS game for Ubuntu
[11:06] <dalfz> Madpilot: it doesn't appear in add/remove either. i have ubuntu 6.06 dapper, what do you have?
[11:06] <chemaja> kestas, yea we use RHEL3 at work which i do support under
[11:06] <chemaja> whoops sorry Madpilot
[11:06] <Joshbeat> whats the best FPS game for Ubuntu
[11:06] <fyre|work> tremulous
[11:06] <duckdown> Joshbeat> don't repeat
[11:06] <Madpilot> dalfz, same. Grab the deb from Opera's download site, that runs fine
[11:06] <Joshbeat> FIrst PersonShooter game for Ubuntu
[11:07] <duckdown> Joshbeat> And you mean the best game for Linux, why would it be ubuntu specific
[11:07] <Joshbeat> FIrst PersonShooter game for Ubuntu
[11:07] <duckdown> ok shut up
[11:07] <Joshbeat> sory
[11:07] <Shubuntu> I have a wierd partition problem at the moment. partition magic (via windows) rearranged all my partition numbers when I resized the extended partition. For the most part it works, except a few bugs, like grub (which I fixed), but now, its detecting my fat32 drive as a swap (I guess ptmagic switched thier partition numbers) as well as detecting the swap drive. how do I make it... well detect...
[11:07] <Shubuntu> ...it as fat?
[11:07] <dalfz> Madpilot: yes thanks
[11:07] <raal> Joshbeat:Quake3
[11:07] <Shubuntu> and not boot as such
[11:07] <duckdown> Joshbeat> Enemy Territory
[11:07] <duckdown> or quake 3
[11:07] <duckdown> or doom 3
[11:07] <Joshbeat> ok.
[11:07] <raal> and Q4
[11:07] <Joshbeat> counterstrike>
[11:07] <meathead> or lock'yer cock, shoot'em up 4
[11:07] <duckdown> ya Q4 too
[11:08] <duckdown> no counter-strike
[11:08] <meathead> counter strike is windows only
[11:08] <avis> i am curious.  i found a linux+ training cd on ebay for $13.  i was thinking python and perl scripting would be a better way to get my foot in the door and make a little money however i'm not finding any resources for perl/python training cd's and am really unsure which path might lead to a viable source of small monetary compensation.
[11:08] <Talisker[w] > how do I add a new enviroment to the gnome session menager?
[11:08] <FirstStrike> uhh
[11:09] <FirstStrike> CS runs on wine
[11:09] <Joshbeat> i have a built in webcam on my laptop...how can i make it work
[11:09] <FirstStrike> i've run half life 1/2 and mods for both just dandy
[11:09] <duckdown> He asked about a Linux native game
[11:09] <duckdown> The best "FPS for linux"
[11:09] <bjorn-> Madpilot: the .deb from opera was the one I downloaded when I got the conflict ..
[11:09] <FirstStrike> well..umm...Cube? :P
[11:09] <Joshbeat> yup...i cant make wine works
[11:09] <FirstStrike> although there's no servers
[11:09] <duckdown> Cube bla
[11:10] <duckdown> *blah
[11:10] <hayden> FirstStrike, have you played any games via Steam on ubuntu?
[11:10] <Madpilot> bjorn-, it should let you install the downloaded one anyway, just ignore it when it complains
[11:10] <FirstStrike> i play natural selection (half life 1 mod), half life 2, half life 2 deathmatch and saga of ryzom.
[11:10] <FirstStrike> saga of ryzom isn't steam though
[11:10] <FirstStrike> it's an mmorpg
[11:10] <solete> hello
[11:11] <FirstStrike> i played doom 3 through on linux
[11:11] <finalbeta> avis, CBT has video training for pyhton perl bash etc
[11:11] <hayden> FirstStrike, do you paly NS and HL2 via Steam on linux?
[11:11] <FirstStrike> yep..
[11:11] <raal> can i play the WoW on ubuntu?
[11:11] <FirstStrike> steam runs fine
[11:11] <meathead> cs runs cs yeah
[11:11] <solete> puede cnt alguien
[11:11] <FirstStrike> WoW will run with a lot of tweaking
[11:11] <meathead> cedega <---- windows games on linux
[11:11] <bjorn-> Madpilot: yeah, I'd do that if it hadn't grayed out the install button ;) .. seems like I need to remove the old installation of Opera, so something must be .. hmm, not right.
[11:11] <solete> in sphain
[11:11] <FirstStrike> meathead: wine runs them too now.
[11:11] <Joshbeat> is cedega better than wine>
[11:11] <FirstStrike> i play saga of ryzom in wine
[11:12] <FirstStrike> and half life runs in it as well
[11:12] <hayden> FirstStrike, how would i go about installing steam?
[11:12] <Madpilot> bjorn-, can you pastebin your sources.list for me, please?
[11:12] <bjorn-> sure
[11:12] <raal> cedega is not a free software?
[11:12] <meathead> FirstStrike: wine has always run games in linux, just really really badly, with a lot of tweaking...
[11:12] <FirstStrike> well, get yourself a copy of cedega. if you want the best performance (in this case, cedega still runs steam a bit better than wine..but won't be so for much longer)
[11:12] <Madpilot> raal, no
[11:12] <hayden> FirstStrike, ok
[11:13] <FirstStrike> meathead: saga of ryzom runs perfectly for me with full sound and such. i just had to install the 2.6.17 kernel.
[11:13] <raal> how to get cedega?
[11:13] <FirstStrike> and that was only for the sound
[11:13] <meathead> cedega actually runs worse than wine, I can tell for first hand, since I pay monthly for cedega and run wine
[11:13] <croach> e could anyone help me?
[11:13] <FirstStrike> i've had better results with cedega running half life 2 than with wine
[11:13] <meathead> it just takes a day and a half to figure out how to properly configure wine
[11:13] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl can i use the live cd and compile my kernel on my faster pc and just copy it over
[11:13] <FirstStrike> with other things, wine has been superior
[11:13] <FirstStrike> it's up in the air right now
[11:14] <raal> does wine or cedega can be installed via apt-get?
[11:14] <meathead> cedega themselves admits that their platform for running stuff like FPS games it's usually really bad because they use the safe way and not the fast way
[11:14] <FirstStrike> you can get wine
[11:14] <jatt> I wonder how fast do games run with cedega. With an Athlon XP 3800+, playing supernintendo games with snes9x uses 100% cpu all the time :(
[11:14] <FirstStrike> cedega is $5 a month
[11:14] <FirstStrike> or you can pirate it
[11:14] <meathead> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:14] <chops-> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev is this the correct command for installing that ?
[11:15] <dalfz> could someone please point me to xgl installation howto?
[11:15] <dalfz> for dapper
[11:15] <frying_fish> chops-: yes, but you could use aptitude rather tahn apt-get its better.
[11:15] <homerh_linux> whts video card you got
[11:16] <FirstStrike> dalfz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[11:16] <Madpilot> bjorn-, on your sources.list, you should have "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" to get Opera & the other stff
[11:16] <dalfz> homerh_linux: ati radeon 9700
[11:16] <Madpilot> s/stff/stuff
[11:16] <chops-> when i tried that command it said it couldn't find the package
[11:16] <frying_fish> chops-: well then the package doesn't exist
[11:16] <homerh_linux> dalfx just follow the link firestriek gave u
[11:16] <chops-> it worked last night
[11:17] <dalfz> thanks :)
[11:17] <bjorn-> Mad: http://pastebin.ca/142159
[11:17] <bjorn-> Madpilot i meant..
[11:17] <Mandalf> Hi all
[11:17] <Mandalf> Im sitting in a terminal
[11:18] <Mandalf> i want to install a FTP-server
[11:18] <Mandalf> huw to do that?