[07:00] <Pelo> Kagar,  what do you mean by settings ?
[07:00] <Kagar> Well, just wondering if there was an easier way than fresh install.
[07:00] <gogeta> kagar?
[07:01] <Kagar> Yes?
[07:01] <CountX> Pelo: i will brb
[07:01] <gogeta> thers always a way whats the issue
[07:01] <Pelo> Kagar, for the video  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:01] <GNine> i like linux cuz there are NO standard solutions to anything
[07:01] <GNine> :-P
[07:01] <shifty-> Pelo: does ubuntu-desktop just reinstall all the gnome desktop stuff, and not set it back to default settings?
[07:01] <Pelo> shifty-,  just reinstall the default install packages
[07:01] <teKnofreak> shifty-, it does install all gnome desktop stuffs
[07:01] <Kagar> gogeta : Well, I've just played with too many settings to remember what I did. So, just wondering if I could go back to fresh install settings without having to reinstall everything.
[07:02] <Pelo> shifty-,  the settings are stored in the /home folder in hidden folder for each app
[07:02] <shifty-> ok
[07:02] <shifty-> cause i isntalled kubuntu-desktop and i dont like the kubuntu boot screen haha
[07:02] <gogeta> kagar well if you rember yout defult settings
[07:02] <teKnofreak> Kagar, from next time take a back up before editing
[07:02] <GNine> lol
[07:02] <teKnofreak> ;)
[07:02] <Kagar> aye.
[07:02] <gogeta> shifty just change it
[07:03] <gogeta> or rewmove splash from the boot loader
[07:03] <psiko_> anyone knows how config nxserver??
[07:03] <shifty-> gogeta: how?
[07:03] <Pelo> shifty-, go in synaptic search for splash and remove the kubuntu ones
[07:03] <mike6546> how do you see how much room is left on your linux partition?
[07:03] <shifty-> ok
[07:03] <bulmer> mike6546: df -h
[07:03] <gogeta> it will boot old school text then
[07:03] <Pelo> mike6546, menu > system > admin> system monitor , last tab
[07:03] <gogeta> then go to x
[07:03] <GNine> check your synaptic history .. might refresh your memory as to what have you done to your poor system
[07:04] <teKnofreak> shifty-, http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com/2006/12/22/switching-between-ubuntukubuntuxubuntu-uspalsh/
[07:04] <shifty-> teKnofreak: thanks
[07:04] <mike6546> is there anyway to shrink an ntfs partition and increase my ext3 partition size in linux?
[07:04] <abyan> yuni_gemini
[07:04] <gogeta> yes mike
[07:05] <shifty-> teKnofreak: hah i did the same as you, tried out kde and liked hnome better
[07:05] <Pelo> when count x comes back tell him to go in synaptic,  search for gstreamer and install all the gstreamer 10 packages he sees
[07:05] <Pelo> I'm out, g'night
[07:05] <teKnofreak> shifty-, nope i like kde better :P
[07:05] <arghh2D2> Is there a way to change resolution for virtual terminals without affecting my GUI resolution?
[07:05] <mike6546> gogeta: how?
[07:05] <gogeta> you can use the gpartationd live disk or the ubuntu installer just go to the partation setup and manule
[07:05] <shifty-> teKnofreak: doh'
[07:05] <gogeta> those changes are set instantly
[07:05] <psiko_> how config nxserver??
[07:05] <gogeta> after your done there you whont need to install anything
[07:06] <gogeta> sence your just resizing
[07:06] <teKnofreak> shifty-, am not for "gnome vs kde" both have their pros and cons, intelligent people use both
[07:06] <mike6546> alright and this won't lose any of my files?
[07:06] <ant-> it might
[07:06] <yuni> yuni_gemini
[07:06] <gogeta> shouldent
[07:06] <shifty-> teKnofreak: thats true, something about gnome just catches my eye moreso
[07:06] <gogeta> but resizing is a pretty fun game of luck
[07:06] <gogeta> shit does happon sometimes
[07:06] <GNine> u better backup
[07:07] <mike6546> gogeta: would partition magic be a better bet?
[07:07] <arghh2D2> Does anybody know if  there's a way to change resolution for virtual terminals without affecting my GUI resolution?
[07:07] <mike6546> in windows
[07:07] <Kagar> meh, I'm going to reinstall ubuntu anyways, just wondering if there was a faster way, thanks to those who helped.
[07:07] <teKnofreak> shifty-, alt+space katapault is better than alt+f2 ;)
[07:07] <gogeta> it would if it supported ext3
[07:07] <gogeta> it doesent thow
[07:07] <mike6546> bah
[07:07] <arghh2D2> i guess i come with the tough questions
[07:08] <gogeta> using gparationd should work
[07:08] <teKnofreak> there is nothing tough, there is only less known
[07:08] <mike6546> k
[07:08] <gogeta> it woked for me
[07:08] <gogeta> but i was also installing
[07:08] <gogeta> i dont knoe how it will rect to the ext3 partation with data on it
[07:08] <mike6546> well i am trimming down my ntfs partition to it's minimum size and that scares me
[07:08] <mike6546> k
[07:09] <gogeta> best to leave some room on it
[07:09] <gogeta> windows hates that
[07:09] <GNine> ntfs and ext3 arent exactly friendly with each other
[07:09] <mike6546> lies
[07:09] <mike6546> i have to shrink my windows partition so i can install windows he he the irony
[07:09] <GNine> ext3 will kill ntfs eventually.. its just a matter of time   muahahaha
[07:10] <gogeta> dont get it
[07:10] <gogeta> shirnk it to install windows
[07:10] <mike6546> qemu
[07:10] <gogeta> you can use vmware and run your real windows install
[07:10] <mike6546> qemu = emulation of an os
[07:10] <mike6546> is it free?
[07:10] <gogeta> i do
[07:10] <sutabi> Anyone know why when I record from /dev/dsp I get a loud buzzing sounds, yet if I use "arecord -f dat -d 2800 screencast.wav" it records without it..
[07:10] <gogeta> vmware server and player are
[07:11] <mike6546> i'll check it out
[07:11] <gogeta> lemmie grab the guide
[07:11] <mike6546> thanks
[07:11] <gogeta> its easy
[07:11] <gogeta> you make another hardware profire in windows
[07:11] <gogeta> and use that to install the vmware drivers
[07:12] <mike6546> !vmware
[07:12] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:12] <gogeta> http://www.venturecake.com/a-simple-guide-to-using-your-existing-windows-install-apps-in-ubuntu/
[07:12] <mike6546> thanks dude
[07:12] <gogeta> easy and it works
[07:12] <gogeta> makes it so you can run windows both nativly and under vmware
[07:12] <mike6546> do you think it would be fine to use visual studio to compile crap using vmware?
[07:12] <CountX> anyone know how to get ubuntu to tell me the battery level on my laptop?
[07:13] <gogeta> yea
[07:13] <mike6546> k good
[07:13] <mike6546> thanks
[07:13] <gogeta> or you can just bot into windows
[07:13] <gogeta> boot
[07:13] <gogeta> only thing if you boot into vmware mode make shure to unmount it in linux
[07:13] <arghh2D2> Hello!  I need to adjust my screen resolution on VIRTUAL TERMINAL.  99% of all the documentation i've been sifting through deals with xorg.conf and i dont want to change that because that is fine but when i hit ctrl alt f() it shows huge fonts that bleed off the edges of the screen...help?
[07:14] <thegreenblob> CountX, Right click on panel>Add to panel>Battery Charge Monitor.
[07:14] <nathan> is there a way to add a picture in the beginning of a video file in avidemux ?
[07:14] <slapfaceware> what's beryl
[07:14] <psiko_> how configure nxserver??
[07:14] <gogeta> beryl is now knoen andd compiz-fusion
[07:15] <gogeta> they remerged
[07:15] <kishan> !beryl
[07:15] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:15] <CountX> thegreenblob: it says im running on battery power, im not, and that its at 0%
[07:15] <RyuhoKudo> how hard would be it be to set up a wireless network with ubuntu
[07:15] <thegreenblob> CountX: Hmm... Not sure then.. Sorry.
[07:15] <RyuhoKudo> wired internet connection with a wireless card brodcasting
[07:15] <CountX> poo
[07:16] <CountX> can linux play h.264?
[07:16] <gogeta> yes
[07:16] <thegreenblob> yeah.
[07:16] <gogeta> and rather well
[07:16] <CountX> how
[07:16] <Irreducibilis> Can ubuntu play PC games?
[07:16] <CountX> i cant find any decoder on the repos
[07:17] <Irreducibilis> "Games for windows"
[07:17] <endlessurf> so i don't know if this is an ubuntu thing or router/modem set up but i seem to be limited to a 150kb/s even though when i go to a download speed checker it says 1500kb/s,  help any one....
[07:17] <slapfaceware> how do i instlal beryl in ubuntu
[07:17] <teKnofreak> RyuhoKudo, wireless network as in you want to access wireless ?
[07:17] <gogeta> threw cedega it can play some
[07:17] <teKnofreak> endlessurf, doesn't trust download speed checkers
[07:17] <thegreenblob> CountX, I installed the codecs using automatix.
[07:17] <gogeta> slap apt-get install beryl
[07:17] <CountX> automatrix?
[07:17] <arghh2D2> Hello!  I need to adjust my screen resolution on VIRTUAL TERMINAL.  99% of all the documentation i've been sifting through deals with xorg.conf and i dont want to change that because that is fine but when i hit ctrl alt f() it shows huge fonts that bleed off the edges of the screen...help?  Am I asking the impossible?  Am I even beeing seen here?
[07:17] <thegreenblob> CountX, http://www.getautomatix.com/
[07:18] <endlessurf> teknofreak the modem says about the same thing though.....
[07:18] <gogeta> its a auto installer app but some call it unsecure
[07:18] <elkbuntu> thegreenblob, using feisty?
[07:18] <kishan> slapfaceware, try compiz fusion
[07:18] <teKnofreak> thegreenblob, you now using Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[07:18] <thegreenblob> Yeah.
[07:18] <slapfaceware> kishan, why
[07:18] <RyuhoKudo> teKnofreak i want to set up a ad-hoc
[07:18] <RyuhoKudo> using ubuntu
[07:18] <RyuhoKudo> is that possible
[07:18] <elkbuntu> thegreenblob, that was a dangerous waste then. you install codecs in feisty by trying to run the related media file
[07:18] <teKnofreak> RyuhoKudo, you mean your  Ubuntu machine to be a gateway for the wireless network ?
[07:18] <elkbuntu> thegreenblob, it then searches for you and installs them like that
[07:18] <thegreenblob> Meh. It worked. :P
[07:18] <RyuhoKudo> yes Tech3030
[07:18] <RyuhoKudo> or.. teKnofreak
[07:19] <kishan> slapfaceware, its much more better than beryl...beryl community now develop under name compiz fusion
[07:19] <teKnofreak> thegreenblob, try playing your media file, codecs get downloaded and installed, media plays.. as simple as that
[07:19] <elkbuntu> thegreenblob, it's ruined alot of peoples computers. removed programs they wanted, overwritten configuration and made systems unbootable, so please dont recommend it
[07:19] <winbond> synaptic is just a front end to apt like adept , right?
[07:19] <arghh2D2> Hello!  I need to adjust my screen resolution on VIRTUAL TERMINAL.  99% of all the documentation i've been sifting through deals with xorg.conf and i dont want to change that because that is fine but when i hit ctrl alt f() it shows huge fonts that bleed off the edges of the screen...help?  Am I asking the impossible?  Am I even beeing seen here?  Seriously, would someone please just acknowledge that my question is being poste?
[07:19] <teKnofreak> winbond, righto
[07:20] <teKnofreak> winbond, synaptic --> apt --> dpkg
[07:20] <thegreenblob> >_<
[07:20] <slapfaceware> but they require opengl?
[07:20] <gogeta> yes
[07:20] <overclucker> arghh2D2, i see you
[07:20] <elkbuntu> arghh2D2, you're being seen, but i dont know how to fix that
[07:20] <winbond> teKnofreak: ty
[07:20] <gogeta> all 3d window managers use opengl
[07:20] <Irreducibilis> Can I boot ubuntu from a 2GB flash drive?
[07:21] <arghh2D2> Thank you overclucker and elkbuntu!
[07:21] <arghh2D2> ok then
[07:21] <cookie-102> hello
[07:21] <gogeta> irreducibils yes i think dapper
[07:21] <teKnofreak> Irreducibilis, does your bios support booting from USB ?
[07:21] <cookie-102> hello everybody
[07:21] <RyuhoKudo> ill ask again when it calms down a bit
[07:21] <gogeta> i used to say no but someone showed me otherwise
[07:21] <Irreducibilis> teKnofreak: Indeed it does
[07:21] <cookie-102> windows has an option extend windows on second  monitor, how do I do that on ubuntu
[07:22] <teKnofreak> Irreducibilis, then you can
[07:22] <arghh2D2> i guess i had enough for a night anyhow
[07:22] <cookie-102> hello
[07:22] <teKnofreak> !ask | cookie-102
[07:22] <ubotu> cookie-102: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:22] <gogeta> LOL
[07:22] <cookie-102> I did ask already
[07:22] <gogeta> dumb bot
[07:22] <teKnofreak> he he
[07:22] <Irreducibilis> Yes, but how do I go about putting it on the USB drive, such as the partitioning and stuff?
[07:22] <teKnofreak> cookie-102, i saw 3 hellos from you, proly i should have used !patience
[07:23] <teKnofreak> ;)
[07:23] <gogeta> pendrive linux has guides
[07:23] <cookie-102> well, nobody answered me
[07:23] <Irreducibilis> HELLO!!! HOW R JOO?!
[07:23] <Irreducibilis> :D
[07:23] <RyuhoKudo> lol
[07:23] <teKnofreak> Irreducibilis, google for "booting ubuntu from pendrive"
[07:23] <Irreducibilis> okay...
[07:23] <cookie-102> My question was, how can i extend my workspace on anothe monitor
[07:23] <teKnofreak> !patience | cookie-102
[07:23] <ubotu> cookie-102: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:23] <teKnofreak> now i did it :P
[07:23] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, http://www.linux-live.org/
[07:24] <gogeta> cookie thats a good one i knoe it can be done but i forgot the app name
[07:24] <Irreducibilis> hmm
[07:24] <cookie-102> gogeta: Thank You, for answering
[07:24] <aum> cookie-102: use your monitor driver settings prog to set up twinview, and drag your compositor window into the second monitor
[07:25] <gogeta> i knoe edting the xorg config can do multi displays or 1 big display
[07:25] <aum> cookie-102: for example, if using nvidia drivers, the prog is nvidia-settings
[07:25] <gogeta> there it is
[07:25] <aum> cookie-102: also, google for how to set up twinview
[07:25] <cookie-102> well, I am running ubuntu not windows
[07:25] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, though i would reccomend using a less feature rich distro for usb boot
[07:25] <gogeta> cookie nivida still has those settings in linux
[07:26] <cookie-102> ok, thx
[07:26] <nathan> is there a way to add a picture in the beginning of a video file in avidemux ?
[07:26] <bourne> hi... is there a problem to install /home into the same / partition? Do the transfer account wizard preserves all my information from my current /home installation?
[07:27] <gogeta> bourne if you just make a / partation .home will be there
[07:27] <gogeta> hats aruldy done
[07:27] <teKnofreak> bourne, you mean moving /home to existing / ?
[07:27] <bourne> i know but kinda if I have a well working system... and when 7.10 is released... will it preserve everything?
[07:28] <bourne> or will something break?
[07:28] <gogeta> well
[07:28] <gogeta> having only a / means if something brakes thats it
[07:28] <teKnofreak> nothing *should* break with 7.10 as nothing have since mty breezy days
[07:28] <teKnofreak> i have a / and /home within it
[07:29] <gogeta> that means you only have /
[07:29] <teKnofreak> bourne, ^^
[07:29] <teKnofreak> means i do not have a separate partition for /home
[07:29] <bourne> i see
[07:29] <skinnypuppy1334> I'm running xp in a vmware server on ubuntu 7.04, works great. Can I install vm software on my other linux machines on the lan and run that same virtual machine from any of them? Sorry noob question.
[07:29] <bourne> but it's important, isnt' it?
[07:30] <CountX> ubuntu still wont tell me my correct battery charge level
[07:30] <scrimple> hello, how do you install gnome-ppp when you can't use your modem but have internet on another machine?]
[07:30] <CountX> can anyone point me in the right direction
[07:30] <bullgard4> Is there an ordinary name for the 'sysfs' identifier?
[07:30] <teKnofreak> bourne, you can line without a separate /home provided you are not going to screw up things yourselves and do not want to share /home
[07:31] <bourne> oh i see
[07:31] <teKnofreak> scrimple, use the other machine as the gateway to internet
[07:31] <CountX> teKnofreak: hey man, i cant get ubuntu to read my battery level
[07:31] <CountX> it reads as 0%
[07:31] <Irreducibilis> What is the smallest linux distro ever?
[07:31] <Irreducibilis> Besides DSL
[07:31] <CountX> DSL
[07:31] <CountX> damn...
[07:31] <scrimple> how do i do that?
[07:31] <bourne> i still have to access a fat32 partition for data, between linux and windows... fat32 is ok for this?
[07:31] <teKnofreak> Irreducibilis, Damn Small Linux
[07:31] <bourne> or is the ntfs stable enough
[07:31] <faileas> Irreducibilis: build your own ;)
[07:31] <CountX> puppy linux
[07:32] <slapfaceware> compiz is window manager? or have to use it with kde gnome?
[07:32] <CountX> LFS is hard
[07:32] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, dsl is debian
[07:32] <overclucker> LFS rocks
[07:32] <CountX> but its hard
[07:32] <faileas> Irreducibilis: its more a question for #linux tho ;)
[07:32] <CountX> not noob friendly
[07:32] <ninjabooty> while I'm impressed with Fiest, I still could not get the wireless USB adapter to work
[07:32] <scrimple> was wondering if you could download the file and then install it on the other
[07:32] <overclucker> at first it is, yeah
[07:32] <teKnofreak> Irreducibilis, as other have started telling names.. if you want usb bootable linux try knoppix on usb :)
[07:33] <skinnypuppy1334> heard slax will do usb also
[07:33] <ninjabooty> http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=272959 <-act peculiar in Fiesty
[07:33] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, of slax (slackware based)
[07:33] <ninjabooty> I'm not experienced with wireless networking in nix
[07:33] <teKnofreak> scrimple, ya, then change your repos to the local machine.. have an apt-server running on the another machine
[07:33] <ninjabooty> but it was like, it had two wireless adapters: wlan0 and wmaster0
[07:34] <Irreducibilis> I already have DSL bootable from a 128MB usb drive
[07:34] <ninjabooty> I could see the wireless access point, but I couldn't use it
[07:34] <Irreducibilis> But if I bought a 2 gig, I was hoping to use Ubuntu
[07:34] <Irreducibilis> So, Ill try that....
[07:34] <scrimple> thanks but it sounds a bit complicated for me
[07:35] <cast> Irreducibilis: debian should run from usb fine enough me thinks
[07:35] <Irreducibilis> okay...
[07:36] <bourne> is NTFS drive writer stable enough
[07:36] <bourne> or should I just go with fat32 if i want to share a partition with winxp
[07:36] <Polygon89> bourne, ntfs-3g is stable, ive been using it for a while, been writing stuff to my ntfs drive and i have not noticed any problems
[07:37] <cast> Irreducibilis: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179 fwiw
[07:37] <bourne> Polygon89: so it should be OK then, to share a NTFS partition...
[07:38] <Polygon89> bourne, yeah thats what i do. I just have my windows partition mounted and i can read/write to it fine
[07:38] <Polygon89> bourne, but just use it to share, dont actually install linux on it (i dont think you can lol)
[07:38] <gogeta> well
[07:38] <gogeta> using ntfs read wright all the time isnt good
[07:39] <hackel> How does sleep work in Ubuntu?  It seems like it's not running anything in /etc/acpi...
[07:39] <Kagar> It's not possible to move unallocated space in front or behind a partition is it?
[07:39] <daprie> I'm having problem getting my sound to work... any suggestions?
[07:39] <gogeta> daprie thats kinda vage
[07:39] <Kagar> I have a block of unallocated space in front of a partition, and I want it to move in front so I can combine it with another partition.
[07:40] <Kagar> Without having to have 4 partitions
[07:40] <gogeta> kager it will grab any unused space
[07:40] <daprie> ok... I have an Nvidia mobo with an onboard sound card
[07:40] <gogeta> if your resizing or making
[07:40] <bourne> which scheme partition is good, for a long term linux installation, with sharing windows for a while... (in the future I will remove windows..)
[07:40] <Kagar> ah, so I don't have to worry about gparted? I should let the step thing take place?
[07:40] <daprie> I've tried to do all that was recommended on the forum including rebuilding the alsa drivers, but nothing has helped
[07:40] <Polygon89> bourne, how big is your drive?
[07:40] <bourne> 40 GB
[07:41] <cast> bourne: use lvm, :),
[07:41] <Polygon89> bourne, how nice, the same size as mine lol
[07:41] <cast> long term without lvm may hurt a bit
[07:41] <bourne> LOL
[07:41] <Polygon89> bourne, so your gonna be sharing with windows on this as well?
[07:41] <bourne> i wished i had more, but then i dont use that space
[07:41] <Polygon89> bourne, including a installation of windows?
[07:41] <bourne> yes
[07:41] <Kagar> continuous ==  unallocated space?
[07:42] <bourne> i have to... because of my... fiancee
[07:42] <bourne> and foobar2000
[07:42] <overclucker> lol
[07:42] <bourne> lol
[07:42] <Polygon89> bourne, thats gonna be tricky... your not going to have much space for personal files lol
[07:42] <winbond>   cast what does lvm do?
[07:42] <ninjabooty> so I couldn't get the USB wireless adapter to work, any thoughts? I could see working for ubuntu just to find esoteric hardware junk that doesn't work well with it :D
[07:42] <cast> make the windows partition as small as you can get away with, then when you're tired of it make it an lvm pv and incorporate it in one of your volume groups  :)
[07:42] <Kagar> my HD is set up like Unallocated | windows | unallocated | swap
[07:42] <overclucker> bourne, once you settle the deal windows is of?
[07:42] <nathan> is there a way to add a picture in the beginning of a video file in avidemux ?
[07:42] <Kagar> will it grab all the unallocated if I choose the use largest continuious?
[07:42] <Kagar> or just the biggest unallocated
[07:43] <Polygon89> bourne, i would recommend for a long term linux/windows installation, 10 gb for each OS
[07:43] <bourne> i thought this:
[07:43] <Polygon89> how much ram do you have
[07:43] <overclucker> linux | swap | storage | winblows
[07:43] <gogeta> kagar yes it should
[07:43] <daprie> anyone?
[07:44] <bourne> [ swap 1GB ]  - [ ext3  10GB ]  - [ ntfs  4GB ]  - [ fat32 25 GB ]
[07:44] <CoasterMaster> Is there a way to sync windows mobile phones with ubuntu?
[07:44] <gogeta> borne linux 8 gb sap1 gb rest winblows
[07:44] <overclucker> bourne, swap first!?!
[07:44] <bourne> swap first
[07:44] <cast> bourne: why 1gb of swap? whats the most swap you ever use? i doubt its more than 384mb..
[07:44] <bourne> wont it be as close as possible to the files of linux
[07:44] <Polygon89> bourne, how much ram do you have
[07:45] <bourne> yes, my Pagefile in windows is.. now...
[07:45] <gogeta> 512 ddr2 ram = 1 gb swap
[07:45] <Polygon89> you dont need that much swap
[07:45] <gogeta> shure do
[07:45] <bourne> 589MB
[07:45] <sauvin> windows is a hog. It NEEDS a pagefile. Linux almost doesn't.
[07:45] <Polygon89> at the very least you need equal to the amount of ram you do
[07:45] <Irreducibilis> For my winXP box, I have 512mb ram and 4096mb pagefile swap
[07:45] <Polygon89> no you dont :D
[07:45] <Irreducibilis> Because it NEEDS it to run well
[07:45] <cast> bourne: windows isn't linux....
[07:45] <daprie> gogeta, I posted more info about the problem a while ago... do you know anything that I can try?
[07:45] <Polygon89> if you want to suspend to ram you need a swap partition equal to your ram
[07:45] <gogeta> dapre?
[07:45] <bourne> the pagefile in windows here.. is inbetween 300-500 mb
[07:46] <Polygon89> so bourne what im suggesting
[07:46] <daprie> yeah?
[07:46] <cari> Does Windows use the page file before it even touches the ram?
[07:46] <bourne> if i run openoffice....
[07:46] <bourne> will it write to swap?
[07:46] <Irreducibilis> It uses the ram and then goes to pagefile when it runs out of ram
[07:46] <Polygon89> bourne, 10 gb for each operating system, either 512 mb or 1 gig for swap (you decide) and the left over space /home
[07:46] <gogeta> i missed the issue
[07:46] <daprie> ok, I can't get my sound card to work
[07:46] <gogeta> yea a nivida
[07:46] <gogeta> now i rember
[07:46] <Polygon89> bourne, you need swap. if you ever want to suspend your gonna need it,, and if you ever run out of ram for some reason then random processes wont get killed if you have swap
[07:46] <gogeta> probly the hd card
[07:46] <daprie> I've tried everything suggested on the forum, still not working
[07:47] <Irreducibilis> daprie: What kind of sound card?
[07:47] <cari> daprie: That's what i came in here for too
[07:47] <daprie> Nvidia onboard
[07:47] <cari> i have sound just not 5.1
[07:47] <bourne> but i dont need a 1GB swap
[07:47] <bourne> as the pal is saying
[07:47] <bourne> ?
[07:47] <gogeta> i think that cards not working some say using the intel driver works
[07:47] <gogeta> other say it still failes
[07:47] <daprie> I've tried that as well
[07:48] <sauvin> I think the erstwhile conventional wisdom was that you need twice the amount of swap as you do RAM. I have large swap myself, but top keeps saying it's barely ever used.
[07:48] <bourne> windows puts its swap file in the firsts sectors of the disc... but that wont happen in linux right
[07:48] <bourne> i dont need a swap in the beginning
[07:48] <cast> Polygon89: you don't *need* swap ;)
[07:48] <gogeta> linux uses its own swap partation
[07:48] <daprie> anything else you can think of?
[07:49] <cast> Polygon89: you probably only want swap
[07:49] <sauvin> I don't know where linux puts its swap if it doesn't have a swap partition.
[07:49] <overclucker> bourne, linux first
[07:49] <bourne> i know but i am doing a point here... the disk stroking
[07:49] <Polygon89> cast, you dont need it but if you want to suspend, and if linux ever runs out of ram your screwed without it
[07:49] <gogeta> simple linux doesent
[07:49] <bourne> i dont want it to "full stroke" because of a swap partition in the end of it
[07:49] <gogeta> no swap partation no swap
[07:49] <Polygon89> its a good idea to have it.
[07:49] <Irreducibilis> My current WinXP swap says that it is using 450MB out of 4451MB
[07:49] <teKnofreak> sauvin, is your RAM >=2GB ?
[07:49] <sauvin> One gig.
[07:49] <bourne> ya know when the drive does a full stroke
[07:49] <bourne> loses performance
[07:49] <teKnofreak> sauvin, better have a swap for worst case
[07:50] <daprie> nvm folks... apparently my issue is not that important... this is the second time that this chatroom has been useless for me!
[07:50] <gogeta> not if you have a fast drive
[07:50] <sauvin> I have swap simply out of habit. Four gigs, iirc.
[07:50] <bourne> that is why i thought was in the beginning
[07:50] <Polygon89> bourne, your swap partiton is just a seprate partition
[07:50] <teKnofreak> daprie, this is not chat room*
[07:50] <cast> Polygon89: you can run out of ram with swap too :)
[07:50] <daprie> what is it then
[07:50] <Polygon89> cast, but its harder
[07:50] <gogeta> linux only uses swap if it runs out of ram
[07:50] <teKnofreak> daprie, this is a support channel by volunteers for Ubuntu
[07:50] <bourne> so...
[07:50] <gogeta> or to store stuff for faster loading later
[07:50] <daprie> isn't this suppose to be where I go to get help with Ubuntu issues
[07:51] <Polygon89> gogeta, not it doesnt, on mine it sometimes uses swap and i still have free ram left
[07:51] <sauvin> Unlike Windows, which starts using a pagefile in anticipation of running out of ram, because it knows it will.
[07:51] <bourne> (linux)-(swap)-(ntfs)-(ntfs) ??
[07:51] <overclucker> linux | swap | storage | winblows
[07:51] <teKnofreak> daprie, s/got to get/most probably get/
[07:51] <sauvin> daprie, what's your ubuntu issue?
[07:51] <Polygon89> bourne, whats the second ntfs partition for?
[07:51] <bourne> storing data only
[07:51] <overclucker> boubbin_, lookin good
[07:51] <nicholaspaul> i use 'sudo ifconfig ath0 *********' to set my ip, but when i type ifconfig again, the ip is different. doesnt ifconfig set the ip?
[07:51] <bourne> i will access that data from both linux and win
[07:51] <daprie> I can't get my soundcard to work... it's an Nvidia on board soundcard
[07:51] <cast> daprie: my two cents: buy a real sound card. my nvidia integrated sound mobos have a lot of static
[07:51] <overclucker> boubbin_, srry
[07:52] <Polygon89> bourne, hmm, if you make that your home folder that might be a little interestering
[07:52] <gogeta> well bourne if your pcs gonna memery threash thers not mutch you can do for performace
[07:52] <Polygon89> bourne, cause ntfs doesnt keep partitions
[07:52] <gogeta> other then more ram
[07:52] <winbond> nvidia doesnt make soundcards
[07:52] <Polygon89> bourne, i mean permissions
[07:52] <bourne> it can't be ext3
[07:52] <bourne> because windows wont acess it
[07:52] <bourne> i need win to acess it
[07:52] <myriadar> good morning, how do I navigate in Windows-directories which have 2 names, e.g. Program Files? cd Program Files give me an error
[07:52] <sauvin> There IS an ext2 driver for Windows.
[07:52] <Polygon89> sauvin, but that causes A LOT of problems
[07:52] <Slart> myriadar: try Program\ Files
[07:52] <daprie> onboard means that it's built into a nvidia motherboard... the chipset is nvidia CK804
[07:53] <sauvin> It does?
[07:53] <psiko_> "Progran Files"
[07:53] <overclucker> bourne, and driver for ext3
[07:53] <astro76> myriadar, cd "Program Files" or cd Program\ Files
[07:53] <gogeta> mynadar linxu uses dirrent commands
[07:53] <astro76> myriadar, also tab-completion helps
[07:53] <daprie> which makes it an nvidia onboard soundcard
[07:53] <Polygon89> sauvin, oh yeah, i used it and fsck got mad at me and had to recheck it cause it always failed
[07:53] <winbond> daprie: what motherboard u got?
[07:53] <myriadar> great, thx!
[07:53] <MeRodent> myriadar, or just tab complete
[07:53] <Polygon89> sauvin, cause its only ext2.. not ext3.. so the jorunal gets screwed up
[07:53] <gogeta> spaces are normal app\ app
[07:53] <myriadar> and cu :) have a nice day
[07:53] <gogeta> vs just a space
[07:53] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know why a wifi card wont pick an IP with DHCP????
[07:53] <overclucker> bourne, but winblows can't handle ext properly
[07:53] <nicholaspaul> can i force it?
[07:53] <Polygon89> bourne, i would suggest making like a 1-2 gb home partition
[07:53] <cari> is ext2 the one that lets you write to ntfs?
[07:53] <daprie> Biostar TForce4 SLi
[07:54] <Polygon89> bourne, that way your home folder has the correct permissions and you can just store all your data on that ntfs partition
[07:54] <bourne> polygon: is that partition necessary
[07:54] <kahrytan> starvinmarvin, whats that for
[07:54] <starvinmarvin> No idea. I just found it.
[07:54] <Polygon89> im not sure, but ntfs does not support permissions, i dont know if something is going to be screwed up if you have your home on ntfs
[07:54] <bourne> wait a minute your getting me wonrg
[07:54] <kahrytan> @lart starvinmarvin
[07:54] <starvinmarvin> You were the first person I saw after my discovery.
[07:55] <kahrytan> thought so. doesnt work here
[07:55] <bourne> that DATA partition must be shared from WIn and Lin
[07:55] <bourne> it cant be ext3
[07:55] <bourne> and it can't be a /home
[07:55] <bourne> its just like a big trash can
[07:55] <sauvin> cari, for writing to ntfs, you need either an ntfs driver or ntfs-3g.
[07:55] <Polygon89> ah
[07:55] <winbond> daprie: the audio chip is Realtek ALC850
[07:55] <Irreducibilis> O_O Does ubuntu support 2 x 1TB drives in raid?
[07:55] <kahrytan> Polygon89, 2gb /home is way to small
[07:55] <cari> sauvin: Ah yes that one.
[07:55] <overclucker> bourne, fat32/
[07:55] <daprie> winbond: It's a Biostar TForce4 SLi mobo
[07:55] <gogeta> baourne thers a way to get windows to se ext3
[07:55] <Polygon89> so that works then
[07:55] <Polygon89> kahrytan, not if he doesnt store anytthing on it
[07:56] <iliketofrolic> can i create a ext3 partition from ubuntu if the space is already free?
[07:56] <kahrytan> Polygon89, could download games
[07:56] <sauvin> Sure can!
[07:56] <yetengji> how do i get the UUID for fstab?
[07:56] <faileas> Irreducibilis: probably
[07:56] <kahrytan> Polygon89, he could install windows apps for wine
[07:56] <faileas> iliketofrolic: repartition with gparted and you could
[07:56] <overclucker> iliketofrolic, yeah, cfdisk
[07:56] <nicholaspaul> Q: when i type 'ifconfig, to view my wifi settings, i have ath0, lo and wifi0-00 listed. whats the last one?????
[07:56] <cari> sauvin: Husband just upgraded to Gutsy from Feisty after i got the mouse side buttons, some advanced keyboard buttons, and 5.1 sound back.
[07:56] <Polygon89> bourne, so that works, just have like 10 gb Linux (root), 512-1 gig Linux (swap) 10 gb Windows whatever else left ntfs storage
[07:56] <Polygon89> kahrytan, he is going to have a ntfs partition for storing everything
[07:56] <overclucker> iliketofrolic, man cfdisk before using it
[07:57] <bourne> but...
[07:57] <iliketofrolic> alright brb i am on the 6.06 live cd and gparted won't format but it can delete
[07:57] <gogeta> poly why
[07:57] <cari> sauvin: Now I have to remember how i did that in the first place and write it down for future use ... gah
[07:57] <Chillout2k7> Hi everyone... just installed Ubuntu for the first time, after choking on Vista. Having some difficulties connecting with my wireless adapter, and was hoping someone could give me a hand. Looks like the device drivers are good, and the network manager shows the wireless connection under Manual Configuration, but it still won't connect (checked security settings etc.) Am i missing something?
[07:57] <iliketofrolic> k
[07:57] <bourne> there comes the issue, wouldnt fat32 be more stable
[07:57] <gogeta> why not use ext3
[07:57] <Polygon89> you cant install winxp on fat32
[07:57] <gogeta> you can
[07:57] <kahrytan> Polygon89, NTFS in Linux is slow as .. <sensor>
[07:57] <Polygon89> oh wait
[07:57] <Polygon89> hmm
[07:57] <Polygon89> no its not i use it
[07:57] <nicholaspaul> Can nobody help??
[07:57] <myriadar> hello again ^^" another problem has popped up
[07:57] <overclucker> bourne, fat32 for storage is a good idea
[07:57] <sauvin> You CAN install Windows on FAT32. You don't WANT to, but you CAN.
[07:57] <Polygon89> not if you want a stable winxp installation you dont lol
[07:57] <gogeta> if you make a fat32 partation you can install xp on it
[07:57] <bourne> kahrytan thats good information
[07:57] <winbond> daprie: how do u know the its the soundcard thats not working
[07:58] <faileas> kahrytan: ntfs-3g is quite fast IMO
[07:58] <MeRodent> Polygon89, there's a stable windows?
[07:58] <kahrytan> faileas, It is quite slow to me
[07:58] <bourne> but NTFS + FAT should be ok?
[07:58] <gogeta> why not just ext3 thow
[07:58] <gogeta> you can make windows see it
[07:58] <overclucker> Polygon89, there's no such thing as a stable win xp installation!
[07:58] <faileas> true
[07:58] <Polygon89> gogeta, that ext driver for windows sucks
[07:58] <myriadar> to configure wine for using lotus notes on ubuntu7.04, I need to open /.wine/config, but I cant find the file in my home-dir
[07:58] <faileas> overclucker: personally i disagree
[07:58] <Polygon89> gogeta, i used it, completely fed up my journal, had to run fsck every time i booted into linux after writing to it
[07:59] <myriadar> anyone has stolen my config-file? ^^
[07:59] <kahrytan> bourne, You can use a Windows tool to access ext3 partition. (read only)
[07:59] <gogeta> i guess ntfs or fat32 for storage is his bet then
[07:59] <Polygon89> so bourne i guess you could just have 10 gb linux 10 gb windows 512mn-1gig swap and whatever else fat32 storage.....
[07:59] <cari> woohoo i did manage to fix my 5.1 ...
[07:59] <faileas> personally when i multiboot, i go for one shared FAT partition, and a native partition per OS
[07:59] <kahrytan> bourne, fs-driver.org/ for ext3 for windows
[07:59] <winbond> daprie: looks like it should work fine with alsa driver
[07:59] <mike6546> this is iliketofrolic, how do i open cfdisk for my second HD?
[07:59] <gogeta> but sotring stuff above 2 gigs in fat32 is a pain
[07:59] <Polygon89> kahrytan, again that driver sucks
[07:59] <Polygon89> kahrytan, thats only a ext2 NOTE THE 2
[08:00] <bourne> yeah.. native partitions for OSes
[08:00] <overclucker> faileas, then maybe it's me that's unstable, lol
[08:00] <Polygon89> kahrytan, so if he uses that with ext3 it doesnt record the journal = screwed up
[08:00] <bourne> and fat32 for storage
[08:00] <cast> mike6546: cfdisk /dev/hdX? or /dev/sd ...etc..
[08:00] <mike6546> k thx
[08:00] <faileas> overclucker: with a nick like that?  maybe ;p
[08:00] <overclucker> lol
[08:00] <bourne> so fat32 is safe bet
[08:00] <kahrytan> Polygon89, Hence read only part
[08:00] <bourne> for storage
[08:01] <overclucker> bourne, yes
[08:01] <Polygon89> kahrytan, he needs that for storage so that wont work
[08:01] <myriadar> to configure wine for using lotus notes on ubuntu7.04, I need to open /.wine/config, but I cant find the file in my home-dir <-- no clue?
[08:01] <gogeta> as long as its not above 2 gigs
[08:01] <cast> bourne: yip. if its sub 4gb files
[08:01] <bourne> fat32 supports up to 32gb
[08:01] <kahrytan> Polygon89, I think fat32 is best
[08:01] <gogeta> not for files
[08:01] <Polygon89> fat32 partition wise
[08:01] <cast> ignore gogeta, he uses fat16 D:
[08:01] <bourne> should be fine with 25gb at 16k cluster
[08:01] <teKnofreak> myriadar, if am not wrong you can create one and try
[08:01] <gogeta> LOL
[08:01] <manas> I am trying to set up ssh -- when I try to ssh localhost, I get connection denied.
[08:01] <Polygon89> fat32 cannot have files over 4 gb
[08:02] <bourne> i dont have 4gb files..
[08:02] <bourne> LOL
[08:02] <manas> Hi
[08:02] <Polygon89> then that works :D
[08:02] <gogeta> yep
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> Can anyone help me with my wifi troubles/ I cant get it to fetch an IP via DHCP.
[08:02] <Polygon89> its only a real problem with like games that have massive archives
[08:02] <codename> any way i can update my ipod using ubuntu
[08:02] <daprie> winbond: what driver do I use though?
[08:02] <myriadar> this howto speaks of "add this to the config" :/ http://www.nsftools.com/tips/UseNotesWithWine.htm
[08:02] <cast> Polygon89: and isos. and backups. and video.
[08:02] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, is there a link ?
[08:02] <overclucker> nicholaspaul, are you connected to a dhcp server?
[08:02] <Polygon89> cast, backup programs are usually smart enough to split backups into 4 gb chunks
[08:03] <manas> hi -- I am trying to install ssh into my localhost and I get 'connection refused'. I have added myself to hosts-allow.
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak a link? overclucker i'm not connected, but i'm trying to
[08:03] <manas> anyone have any idea of how to fix this
[08:03] <kahrytan> bourne, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[08:03] <Polygon89> cast, i also have entire dvds that are less then a GB on my hard drive, so i think he is fine
[08:03] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, connected/link as in active physical connection.. do "sudo mii-tool"
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> overclucker static ip settings under 'network' dont work,
[08:03] <leafw> anybody tried gutsy on a T60p
[08:03] <jesson> im trying 2 download cedega how can i dowload it from terminal?? i tried apt-get install cedega_timedemo and it doesnt work
[08:03] <jesson> im trying 2 download cedega how can i dowload it from terminal?? i tried apt-get install cedega_timedemo and it doesnt work
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreaki cant ping in or out.. i'll check that command.
[08:03] <gogeta> lol
[08:04] <winbond> daprie: u probably have alsa already installed, what are you trying to play , and what errors are u getting if any?
[08:04] <gogeta> whers the old run comand window
[08:04] <fredde_> is there an GUI for opening ports ?
[08:04] <teKnofreak> gogeta, alt+f2
[08:04] <overclucker> nicholaspaul, is dhcp started?
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak 'No MII interfaces found"
[08:04] <cast> Polygon89: that makes no sense...a dual layer dvd is 8.5GB, a single layer 4.7GB
[08:04] <gogeta> oh
[08:04] <codeshah> hey guys, I just installed Aptana on my machine ... I am wondering where to place it . What is best practices? Currently this is just on my user account folder
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> overclucker the router is up and running, do i have to start it from Ubuntu?
[08:04] <daprie> winbond:  I ran "lspci -v" and it picked up the sound card... I don't really know what else to try to make sure that it's the sound card that is the problem
[08:04] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, is your eth(x) up ?
[08:04] <myriadar> I have feisty on a r60, leafw
[08:04] <overclucker> nicholaspaul, the client
[08:05] <daprie> winbond: I'm just trying to play a CD and I'm getting no errors
[08:05] <nicholaspaul> overclucker i have to restart the client? How do i do that?
[08:05] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, if there is a link b/w your machine and the router, mii-tool should show it up
[08:05] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak  oh its ath0. it shows up in ifconfig
[08:05] <onespinalcracker> I don't seem to be able to receive files via DCC using xchat. Is there a FAQ or some published checklist to see if I'm overlooking something?
[08:05] <jesson> how can i download cedega from terminal ?
[08:05] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak oh i see. I'm 'trying' to connect wirelessly
[08:05] <Polygon89> cast, as in a dvd ripped as a video file, less then 1 gb
[08:05] <codeshah> hey guys, I just installed Aptana on my machine ... I am wondering where to place it . What is best practices? Currently this is just on my user account folder
[08:05] <mike6546> how do i access the new ext3 partition that i just made?
[08:05] <Polygon89> cast, not a actual dvd iso
[08:05] <daprie> winbond: It just sounds like it's been muted although in alsamixer it isn't
[08:05] <overclucker> nicholaspaul, sudo ifconfig ath0 dhcp sart
[08:05] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, ahh.. run dhclient3*
[08:06] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, without the star
[08:06] <kahrytan> cast, DVDs don't have vob files larger then 2gb
[08:06] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, sudo dhclient3
[08:06] <winbond> daprie: alsamixer can have 2 or 3 different sliders which cintrol the same volume, play around with it
[08:06] <teKnofreak> mike6546, mount it
[08:06] <kahrytan> Polygon89, don't need an iso to burn a dvd
[08:06] <winbond> daprie: usually its first 2 from the left,
[08:07] <daprie> winbond: I actually did that before I came on here... nothing helped
[08:07] <Polygon89> kahrytan, i was talking about how i had a ripped dvd movie file on my hard drive that was less then 1 gb, nothing about burning
[08:07] <qazwsx> are there any linux progs that can unzip *.hqx files ?
[08:07] <daprie> yeah, I tried those
[08:07] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak that did the trick, thanks ! So do i have to use that command regularly?
[08:08] <cast> Polygon89: FWIW you didn't just rip, you ripped and performed lossy compression...
[08:08] <overclucker> mike6546, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/disknameherre /media/mountpointhere
[08:08] <cari> anyone know what repo automatix is in? (gutsy)
[08:08] <cd\> DCC SEND "RANDOM NUMBERS"
[08:08] <bourne> so
[08:08] <kahrytan> Polygon89, and each file is less then 1.1gb
[08:08] <bourne> i see here that FAT32 is so limited
[08:08] <nicholaspaul> overclucker whats the diff between 'sudo ifconfig ath0 dhcp start' and 'sudo dhclient3' ?
[08:08] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, nope.. it should run it when you bootup.. dhclient3 is for wireless
[08:08] <bourne> would it be better to store my storage in NTFS?
[08:08] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping
[08:08] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak and what does that do?
[08:08] <nicholaspaul> There's a nalioth here
[08:08] <nicholaspaul> ?
[08:09] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, dhclient3 queries the dhcp server thru wireless interface for a dhcp
[08:09] <bulmer> nicholaspaul: that seems a wrong sequence of commands
[08:09] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak ahhh
[08:09] <cast> kahrytan: you two seem to be talking a subset of dvd, that being dvd-video. ahh, not important!
[08:09] <mike6546> !mount
[08:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:09] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak thanks!
[08:09] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, welcome :)
[08:09] <overclucker> nicholaspaul, oh w8 did u saay ath0, thats sudo iwconfig
[08:09] <b14ck> what software do i need to play a dvd? for some reason i cant get a dvd to play at all
[08:09] <mike6546> !fstab
[08:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:09] <mike6546> !mtab
[08:09] <kahrytan> b14ck, Use VLC w/ libdvdcss2
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <teKnofreak> nicholaspaul, would have told it right in the beginning if I knew it was wireless ;)
[08:09] <bourne> Is this article FUD?
[08:09] <nicholaspaul> overclucker yEA. GOTCHA!!
[08:10] <bourne> http://cquirke.mvps.org/ntfs.htm
[08:10] <teKnofreak> mike6546, dont abuse ubotu plz
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> overclucker sorry, i meant 'yea, gotcha'
[08:10] <mike6546> sorry
[08:10] <daprie> winbond: I have followed all of the steps in this thread on the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=nvidia+on+board+sound+problems
[08:10] <overclucker> lol
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> teKnofreak LOL
[08:10] <kahrytan> b14ck, http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html  and homepage for vlc or in repos
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> thorry!
[08:10] <mike6546> how do i mount the second partition on hdb?
[08:10] <bourne> Polygon89: is this article FUD http://cquirke.mvps.org/ntfs.htm
[08:10] <mike6546> that's why i kept using uboto
[08:11] <b14ck> kahrytan: there is no libdvdcss2 in the repos
[08:11] <overclucker> mike6546, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb2 /media/mountpoint
[08:11] <kahrytan> b14ck, http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html
[08:11] <teKnofreak> mike6546, ubotu can answer that it knows.. it is not Google ;)
[08:11] <b14ck> kahrytan: do i have to build it myself?
[08:11] <kahrytan> b14ck, It is there. VLC is in the repos. no
[08:11] <winbond> daprie: you can try to update the kernel /system ,
[08:11] <b14ck> kahrytan: how ddo i get it installed then?
[08:12] <overclucker> mike6546, where mountpoint is the folder you chose to mount it on
[08:12] <neol> does some one know which is the channel for Linux-mint
[08:12] <kahrytan> b14ck, goto the site first
[08:12] <b14ck> kahrytan: im there
[08:12] <winbond> daprie: which kernel r u running
[08:12] <b14ck> kahrytan: in the releases section
[08:12] <b14ck> kahrytan: do i need a .deb?
[08:12] <mike6546> k
[08:12] <kahrytan> b14ck, yes
[08:12] <overclucker> mike6546, do man mount from console
[08:12] <neol> which is linux-mint channel
[08:12] <b14ck> kahrytan: how do i install the .deb?
[08:13] <kahrytan> b14ck, just open it on the desktop
[08:13] <bulmer> dpkg -i deb
[08:13] <Polygon89> bourne, its not that limited, just cant store bigger then 4 gb files
[08:13] <Polygon89> bourne, and it fragments more, but so does ntfs... so i think using it would be better cause linux supports it better
[08:13] <daprie> winbond: not sure really... is there a command that I can run to get that info?
[08:13] <onespinalcracker> Can anyone help with DCC file receiving issues on xchat?
[08:13] <winbond> neol: irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint.com
[08:14] <jesson> i recently download torrent from add/remove program but i cant find them on my application menu where do ubuntu install programs? which folder? the /bin ??
[08:14] <b14ck> kahrytan: ok got it isntalled. now how do i use vlc to play my dvd?
[08:14] <codeshah> hey guys... sorry just a newbie question : I downloaded this app for development called aptana ... Im trying to figure out where to put it . What is the best practice? ...
[08:14] <kahrytan> jesson, which one?
[08:14] <winbond> daprie: uname -r
[08:14] <neol> winbond, thanks
[08:14] <overclucker> jesson, try /usr,
[08:14] <kahrytan> b14ck, Goto the synaptic and install VLC
[08:14] <cast> codeshah: depends. is it a source package?
[08:14] <b14ck> kahrytan: already did
[08:15] <codeshah> cast, no its just that ... like eclipse .
[08:15] <daprie> winbond: 2.6.20-16-generic
[08:15] <kahrytan> then open disc
[08:15] <codeshah> cast, its sitting in my home dir right now :)
[08:15] <kahrytan> b14ck, Open Disc (ctrl-d)
[08:15] <jesson> bittorrent for linux i downloaded it but i cant find it
[08:15] <bourne> a ubuntu installation will take up to how much space?
[08:15] <b14ck> kahrytan: when i do that, vlc just crashes
[08:15] <kahrytan> b14ck, Doesnt for me.
[08:16] <codeshah> cast, any ideas? Do I just move it somewhere ?
[08:16] <craig__> If I need to clone my /dev directory on to another disk (building a new root), how do I do that?
[08:17] <winbond> daprie: do this, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:17] <xaxxon> any idea how to find out if I can install ubuntu server to an onboard raid device?
[08:17] <kahrytan> b14ck, My vlc automatically opens when dvd is inserted too
[08:17] <b14ck> thats interesting
[08:18] <winbond> daprie: then reboot and hope for the best, i cant really help u any more, sry
[08:18] <kahrytan> b14ck, open vlc and the put dvd in.
[08:18] <b14ck> kahrytan: you knwo what
[08:18] <b14ck> vlc doesnt work
[08:18] <b14ck> but now
[08:18] <b14ck> totem works
[08:18] <b14ck> oddly enough
[08:18] <b14ck> so i guess libdvdcss2 worked with totem for me
[08:18] <xaxxon> I set up the drives in the bios, but linux just sees them as individual drives.. I know that linux tends to disregard the bios for a lot of things.. but I'd like to install my os to a raid-1 mirror
[08:18] <b14ck> thats all i really need
[08:18] <b14ck> thanks
[08:19] <bullgard4> Is there an ordinary name for the 'sysfs' identifier?
[08:19] <winbond> daprie: also , which app did u use to play the cd?
[08:19] <xaxxon> the board has an adaptec and intel raid mode.. but I've tried both and a 'normal' install doesn't work with either..
[08:19] <daprie> winbond: sound juicer
[08:20] <daprie> winbond: Thanks for the help!  I really appreciate it.
[08:20] <aleix> hello! Quick question, does anyone know if Upstart has replaced Cron (I know it replaced init)?
[08:21] <kahrytan> !codecs
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <aleix> Hello, sorry if doubleposting, has Upstart replaced Cron?
[08:21] <kornerr> what package contains dpkg-scanpackages?
[08:21] <winbond> daprie: np, im not much of help
[08:21] <Flannel> aleix: no, upstart replaced init
[08:22] <cast> xaxxon: often those builtin 'raid' features is only fakeraid and people suggest you don't use it at all, not sure if thats your case or not
[08:22] <Flannel> aleix: I don't believe upstart is trying to replace cron.  But, I suppose it might be.
[08:22] <aleix> yep i did know that... but i've read somewhere that upstart would eventually also replace cron... sounds wierd, but is it possible?
[08:22] <frogzoo> aleix: I greatly doubt it
[08:22] <aztec13> >	i am just starting firestarter. i want to know if i should check ip address assigned via DHCP ? i have cable but i had problems with hooking up when i 1st got this cpu so i ran a ethernet cable but does that affect me in anyway now when im setting this all up ? how secure is firestarter who am i safe from now or what ? what exactly are its up sides and down sides ? and will having it now...
[08:22] <Flannel> aleix: sure.  You'll just have an event like "at 10am" which triggers whatever.
[08:22] <aztec13> ...affect my interacting with a new host acct or will it effct ant of the developmental things ? somebody fill me in pls
[08:23] <aleix> quote: "For example, Mac OS X cron is handled by "launchd" (and is not used for anything by default). Ubuntu is going to be changing init soon (see Replacing init with Upstart), and Upstart will eventually replace cron entirely"
[08:23] <frogzoo> aztec13: -> google
[08:23] <Flannel> aleix: Ah, yes, I just found it on the webpage.  Yes, it is slated/already/whatever replacing cron.
[08:23] <frogzoo> !info firestarter
[08:23] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[08:25] <aleix> ok... so i've been using ubuntu server for quite a while and had never had the need to use cron... but now I find that scripts won't run... specially interested in cron.daily for backup purposes.... is this also wide known?
[08:25] <codeshah> ... hey guys ... I am dual - booting . When I am in ubuntu, is it possible for me to listen to music from my windows partition ?
[08:26] <frogzoo> !player codeshah: take your pick:
[08:26] <frogzoo> !players codeshah: take your pick:
[08:26] <bulmer> codeshah: you can have your data from fat partitions
[08:26] <frogzoo> grrr
[08:26] <aurous> yes, you need to mount the windows drive in linux to be able to read info in it
[08:26] <codeshah> aurous, k .
[08:26] <frogzoo> !mp3
[08:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <kahrytan> Who wants to help me figure out why Totem won't play dvds despite the fact codecs and libdvdcss2 is installed?
[08:29] <punsad> kahrytan: is it only totem that is giving you the problem? did you try xine?
[08:30] <aurous> Kahrytan: what error messages are you getting?
[08:30] <kahrytan> punsad, xine doesnt work either
[08:31] <kahrytan> no input plugin
[08:31] <kahrytan> codecs are installed
[08:32] <punsad> kahrytan: did you try googling your problem?
[08:32] <aurous> does it see the dvd?
[08:33] <punsad> kahrytan: that's a good question from aurous.  Are you able to mount data dvds?
[08:33] <dstadulis> I recently installed rEFIt and now I get this error message when I boot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36658/ ?
[08:34] <Azures> hi
[08:34] <dstadulis> hello
[08:34] <kahrytan> totem uses gstreamer right?
[08:34] <teKnofreak> what is the corresponding conf file for Preferences-->Windows settings ?
[08:34] <kahrytan> punsad, it plays in vlc.
[08:34] <Azures> im having problem i can't access the internet with Ubuntu
[08:34] <Azures> it deteced my nw card
[08:34] <Azures> RTL8139
[08:34] <_SiLENT_> helloo
[08:35] <_SiLENT_> that's my network card :)
[08:35] <punsad> kahrytan: hmm.... so totem and xine don't work, but vlc does.  strange
[08:35] <codeshah> is there a tutorial on what best practices for linux app install is -> particularly directories . I have aptana and ies4linux, and I dont like them sitting in my home dir ... where should I Place them
[08:35] <punsad> codeshah:/ /usr/localbin
[08:35] <aurous> azures: is it a wireless card?
[08:35] <Azures> no distro seems to work with my internet its dsl with a 2wire gateway
[08:35] <punsad> codeshah:/ /usr/local/bin  I mean
[08:36] <Azures> RTL8139 isnt wireless
[08:36] <Azures> its ethernet
[08:36] <codeshah> punsad, thanks . that is for the executable, right ?
[08:36] <punsad> codeshah: right
[08:37] <codeshah> punsad, what about the app ... I assume I place the app somewhere and then link the executable there .
[08:37] <kahrytan> punsad, Totem uses gstreamer?
[08:37] <Polygon89> kahrytan, totem and either use gstreamer or xine
[08:37] <_SiLENT_> hey guys who can help me with transferring to ubuntu from M$ winblows
[08:37] <Polygon89> kahrytan, can**
[08:37] <cast> _SiLENT_: i'd install openssh and use winscp on the windows box :)
[08:37] <punsad> kahrytan: no idea
[08:38] <ziggy> Qustion Can i remote to my windows harddrives that i have map out on the server ??
[08:38] <_SiLENT_> cast, u speak to a nooby lamer
[08:38] <faileas> _SiLENT_: i
[08:38] <_SiLENT_> cast, I didn't get a word
[08:38] <punsad> codeshah: app?  not sure what you mean here.  I consider the app the binary
[08:38] <kahrytan> Polygon89, by default gstreamer
[08:38] <_SiLENT_> faileas, what?
[08:38] <faileas> _SiLENT_: i'd repartition with gparted and dual boot initially
[08:38] <codeshah> punsad, oh, is that how it is? hmm
[08:38] <Polygon89> kahrytan, yes by default
[08:38] <codeshah> punsad, for example, something like eclipse ...
[08:38] <faileas> see what i said initially ;)
[08:39] <cast> _SiLENT_: well, ok. guess we have to resolve a few things. spell words properly, for a start, and openssh is how most of the non-windows world remotely/securely logs into computers and/or moves files about
[08:39] <faileas> _SiLENT_: get things working, and once everything is 'ok' *then* delete the windows system
[08:39] <kahrytan> Polygon89,  yet totem doesnt play dvds
[08:40] <Polygon89> kahrytan, that is a bug with gstreamer atm i know what your talking about however
[08:40] <_SiLENT_> cast, and wht is  winscp?
[08:40] <Polygon89> kahrytan, you want me to give you instructions on how to get totem playing dvds?
[08:40] <kahrytan> Polygon89, yeah
[08:40] <_SiLENT_> faileas, I have very expensive internet traffic right now
[08:40] <Polygon89> kahrytan, have to install the libdvdcss2 package from the mediubuntu repos
[08:40] <_SiLENT_> faileas, should I wait till I have better?
[08:40] <faileas> _SiLENT_: i was assuming its the same system?
[08:40] <Polygon89> kahrytan, have to install totem-xine and xine-ui
[08:40] <cast> _SiLENT_: the program you'd use in windows to access the openssh server running....oh. wait. i see. is the ubuntu computer the same was the windows computer?
[08:40] <faileas> you wouldn't need internet
[08:41] <kahrytan> Polygon89, libdvdcss2 is already installed
[08:41] <faileas> want ubuntu? get the livecd delivered to you, free ;)
[08:41] <kahrytan> and not using xine
[08:41] <Polygon89> kahrytan, then make sure that libdvdread and libdvdnav are installed
[08:41] <_SiLENT_> faileas, I requested a CD
[08:41] <faileas> !shipit
[08:41] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[08:41] <Polygon89> kahrytan, watching dvds with totem-gstreamer is impossible at the moment. its a bug
[08:41] <punsad> _SiLENT_: it takes a little while
[08:41] <_SiLENT_> I already did tht thankx
[08:41] <Polygon89> kahrytan, totem-xine is essentially the same thing. you wont notice a difference.
[08:41] <_SiLENT_> yep I am waiting
[08:42] <randy026> I have a 1440 x 900 screen it looks fine when it boots to the desktop but when the nividia logo comes on my whole screen goes haywire
[08:42] <faileas> _SiLENT_: well then you wouldn't need internet until you decided you wanted to install or update packages
[08:42] <randy026> when I go to screen saver or try to play games it reboots X something isnt right
[08:42] <kahrytan> Im determined to get it work
[08:42] <Polygon89> kahrytan, however if you MUST have totem-gstreamer, and cannot bear to install totem-xine, just install VLC and it will play it fine
[08:43] <kahrytan> Im leaving gstreamer in
[08:43] <Polygon89> kahrytan, its a bug within the program. i know what your talking about, it will start to play when you put the dvd in, but then you actually go to play>dvd then it says there is no codec
[08:43] <Polygon89> kahrytan, it doesnt remove gstreamer, it just removes totem-gstreamer and installs totem-xine and the xine libs
[08:43] <Geoffrey2> I'm reinstalling feisty, I have about 95,000 MB available for / and /home, how should I allocate that between the two directories?
[08:43] <_SiLENT_> look, guys. this is my situation: I have slow expensive internet and gonna gave a better one soon. Also one more computer purchase is planned. Should I wait untill all this happens and only then dive the linux world? what do you think?
[08:44] <_SiLENT_> right now i have only one pc
[08:44] <faileas> _SiLENT_: personally, try the live CD, get used to it, iron out annoyances. you can do all that now
[08:44] <_SiLENT_> now? how?
[08:44] <faileas> with  a live CD, if you mess up just reboot ;)
[08:44] <punsad> _SiLENT_: when will you switch internet connections?
[08:44] <Polygon89> _SiLENT_, you can just download the feisty live cd and then you can hold off on updates till you get a better connection, and then you can use the live cd to reinstall if you get a new computer
[08:45] <_SiLENT_> what is a liveCD?
[08:45] <hendo> hello i have ubuntu fiesty installed
[08:45] <_SiLENT_> is the ubuntu CD I requested a liveCD?
[08:45] <Polygon89> _SiLENT_, yes
[08:45] <_SiLENT_> hmmm
[08:45] <_SiLENT_> ok
[08:45] <punsad> _SiLENT__: pop in the cd, and you get a working linux system after boot
[08:45] <hendo> i want to run windows inside ubuntu
[08:45] <Polygon89> _SiLENT_, a live cd is the installation cd, but when you put in your computer, it actually boots up ubuntu from the CD into your ram
[08:45] <kahrytan> Polygon89, I'm not removing gstreamer. period
[08:45] <punsad> hendo: there's several articles on how to do that
[08:45] <hendo> yes
[08:46] <Polygon89> kahrytan, it does not remove gstreamer. it just removes totem-gstreamer.
[08:46] <daschl> hello guys. today's tribe 6 release?
[08:46] <_SiLENT_> now tell me plz, will ubuntu be as easy as windows for me?
[08:46] <punsad> hendo: linus magazine had one in the July 2007 edition
[08:46] <daschl> _SiLENT_, depends on what you want to do
[08:46] <Polygon89> _SiLENT_, if you are not a huge gamer you should be fine.
[08:46] <hendo> yes
[08:46] <punsad> _SiLENT_: no
[08:46] <overclucker> Geoffrey2, 6gb / | 1-2gb swap | 1-x gb /home
[08:46] <kahrytan> Polygon89, which I wont remove
[08:46] <hendo> you got the link for it
[08:46] <_SiLENT_> not gamer AT ALL
[08:46] <daschl> _SiLENT_, so what do you do in your daily computer-life?
[08:47] <_SiLENT_> evryhing else
[08:47] <Polygon89> kahrytan, well then enjoy not being able to play dvds with it until gstreamer fixes it, which atm with gutsy tribe 6 is still not fixed.
[08:47] <codeshah> my windows partition is mounted on /dev/sda2 ... now, when I open the music player (Amarok) I want to go to my My Music folder on that partiiaon ... and play from there ... but it doesnt show it in Amarok ... do I have to move the files over?
[08:47] <Polygon89> kahrytan, try VLC, it doesnt use gstreamer as its backend and can play DVD's fine (it has the codec built in)
[08:47] <_SiLENT_> browsing, e-mail, video, audio, etc.
[08:47] <bluebanana> hi, my older computer, at bootup, says "Insert system disk and press enter." last time i tried it, it booted up to ubuntu fine. what's wrong?
[08:47] <Polygon89> _SiLENT_, then you should be fine
[08:47] <bluebanana> I unscrewed the case off but everything looks connected
[08:47] <_SiLENT_> well for windows, for example I installed 100 apps
[08:47] <overclucker> codeshah, ntfs-3g?
[08:47] <bluebanana> Bios thinks that I don't have a hard drive.
[08:48] <bluebanana> which is funny, because i have 2 hard drives attached
[08:48] <Geoffrey2> _SiLENT_, be patient...if you're used to Windows, it may take a little while to get used to an operating system that does things the RIGHT way :)
[08:48] <kahrytan> Polygon89, I see what you mean with totem
[08:48] <hendo> hey punsad would you have the link for the magazine
[08:48] <kahrytan> totem doesnt do menus so fuck it
[08:48] <_SiLENT_> Geoffrey2 :)
[08:48] <kahrytan> oops sorry
[08:48] <_SiLENT_> all apps in windows are expensive
[08:48] <faileas> Geoffrey2: i don't personally find there's that much of a difference till you get down to compiling, and things like that
[08:48] <faileas> _SiLENT_: not true
[08:48] <Polygon89> kahrytan, yeah just use totem-xine, its the exact same program only it uses xine backend instead of gstreamer, and you can still use gstreamer
[08:48] <_SiLENT_> faileas, I mean the good ones
[08:48] <Polygon89> kahrytan, in other programs..
[08:49] <booster> hey guys i need some help with the pcsX emulator....i need to know were to put the plugins and bios files
[08:49] <faileas> in fact, i use most of the same, free apps in windows and linux
[08:49] <hendo> so how do you run windows inside unbuntu
[08:49] <faileas> hendo: vmware
[08:49] <kahrytan> Polygon89, but does totem use menus?
[08:49] <hendo> yes
[08:49] <Polygon89> kahrytan, the problem with totem-gstreamer and dvds is some bug
[08:49] <Polygon89> kahrytan, so it screws up with dvd menus
[08:49] <punsad> hendo: http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[08:50] <Polygon89> kahrytan, but with totem-xine menus and everything works perfectly
[08:50] <sauvin> there's nothing wrong with being a "mostly windows" guy, faileas, the "wrong" would be in trying to convince other people to be that wayl
[08:50] <kahrytan> Polygon89, It's totem-gstreamer bug?
[08:50] <faileas> sauvin: there is no right or wrong way, only users ;)
[08:50] <_SiLENT_> well, I dunno, as I have no money I need to use help of pirates (oops, I didn't say that). But I wanna get legal, that's why I wanted to move from winblows to ubuntu
[08:50] <Polygon89> kahrytan, either that or just a gstreamer bug, its reported on launchpad
[08:50] <punsad> hendo: that's not a link for the magazine.. but it's similar
[08:50] <nanonyme> faileas, did you mean: lusers
[08:50] <kahrytan> Polygon89, For how long?
[08:51] <hendo> thanks punsad
[08:51] <hendo> i will look now
[08:51] <faileas> _SiLENT_: other than games ... most of my apps on either OS are free ;)
[08:51] <faileas> nanonyme: probably ;)
[08:51] <nanonyme> since root is always right anyway :)
[08:51] <_SiLENT_> faileas, that means you don't use as many as I do :)
[08:52] <nikolam> Hello, Why is (x)ubuntu giving root shell to Anyone who is behind machine, if some od UUID`s for disk partitions change before boot??
[08:52] <nanonyme> sounds like a feature
[08:52] <nikolam> giving root shell to anyone, is serious security risk
[08:52] <Polygon89> kahrytan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/28596
[08:52] <nanonyme> not really
[08:52] <faileas> _SiLENT_: the basics, VLC for DVDs, Paint.net for drawing (one of two apps i can't get on linux), gaim/pidgin IM, thunderbird for mail, firefox or opera for web (and rarely k-meleon on older windows systems), gnu utils on windows cause i'm a wget whore ;)
[08:52] <Terrasque> nikolam: because the Shit(TM) just hit the Fan(TM)
[08:53] <nanonyme> nikolam, well, do you have a BIOS password? if not, any local user can have root
[08:53] <punsad> hendo: from my experience and hardware, I'm not able to run virtualization at a decent enough speed.
[08:53] <Polygon89> kahrytan, it is not fixed as of gusty tribe 5 (ive tried)
[08:53] <nikolam> That is just silly
[08:53] <nanonyme> btw, is that the so-called "single user mode"?
[08:53] <bluebanana>  `1
[08:53] <nanonyme> which is used for maintanence
[08:53] <faileas> _SiLENT_: all those apps other than PDN run on both ;)
[08:53] <_SiLENT_> faileas, there! I choose BEST software :) VLC sux in playing DVDs, for example
[08:54] <nikolam> Ubuntu is SO unecure
[08:54] <nanonyme> so are most linuxes
[08:54] <_SiLENT_> unsecure????
[08:54] <Terrasque> nikolam: you want to know security risk? take a windows machine, boot with live cd. Oh, full access. Boot with a password changer disc. Ooh, i got r00t! Local acces =all bets are off
[08:54] <punsad> _SiLENT_: vlc sux?  i thought it works find
[08:54] <Polygon89> nikolam, in almost any linux distro, all someone has to do is take your hd out and put it in another computer = complete access
[08:54] <nikolam> You say Dabian is unsecure also?
[08:54] <punsad> s/find/fine/
[08:54] <nanonyme> you have to crypt the partitions if you don't want an insecure linux
[08:54] <rockets> Wow
[08:54] <cast> nanonyme: wait...what? how?
[08:54] <rockets> i thought suse was more popular
[08:54] <faileas> _SiLENT_: VLC has libdvdcss ;). and there's not too many dvd players
[08:54] <rockets> the #suse room only has 200 people
[08:54] <hendo> ok
[08:54] <nanonyme> cast, anyone can chroot of a livecd
[08:54] <faileas> Terrasque: true of any other OS.
[08:55] <cast> nanonyme: anyone with physical access to a computer can do whatever the hell they want. thats not in the realm of linux to prevent
[08:55] <_SiLENT_> faileas, for example I use AnyDVD+Cyberlink PowerDVD
[08:55] <nikolam> Anyway, I will implement encryption for /home from now on..
[08:55] <Terrasque> faileas: true of any os
[08:55] <nanonyme> cast, that was the realm nikolam was talking about
[08:55] <_SiLENT_> AnyDVD does css stuff
[08:55] <m4st3r> hi
[08:55] <m4st3r> I have a big problem
[08:55] <punsad> _SiLENT_: what's your point?
[08:56] <m4st3r> My computer cpu is amd64,
[08:56] <nikolam> But it IS to linux to prevent to giving ROOT access to everyone on Every (f) reboot..
[08:56] <m4st3r> i wanna install ubuntu..
[08:56] <punsad> AnyDVD isn't free
[08:56] <nanonyme> but true, if someone gains physical access to the computer, you've already lost
[08:56] <punsad> nanonyme: do it then
[08:56] <_SiLENT_> that's what I AM SAYING
[08:56] <Polygon89> nikolam, no it doesnt.....
[08:56] <m4st3r> How can i install ubuntu on amd64?
[08:56] <nanonyme> punsad, do what?
[08:56] <_SiLENT_> good software isn't free usually in windows
[08:56] <kahrytan> Polygon89, Over a year and no one fixed it?
[08:56] <ipx_> m4st3r: that is not a problem
[08:56] <punsad> that was meant for m4st3r
[08:56] <cast> m4st3r: grab the amd64 cd
[08:56] <faileas> _SiLENT_: and what will you use instead on linux? ;)
[08:56] <kahrytan> Polygon89, It's time to upgrade restrictedformat wiki to use xine
[08:57] <ipx_> m4st3r: you can use the regular 32-bit version (recommended) or the newer 64-bit version (not recommended)
[08:57] <_SiLENT_> faileas, i don't know linux! I hope things are better there, aren't they
[08:57] <_SiLENT_> ?
[08:57] <punsad> _SiLENT_: define better
[08:57] <nanonyme> faileas, maybe some security-enhanced branch of linux with key-based hard disk encryption?
[08:57] <cast> they are better :)
[08:57] <_SiLENT_> punsad, what do u want me to define?
[08:57] <nanonyme> so that it can't be opened without a chip you always carry with you
[08:57] <cast> freedom is always better thna the converse, even if you can't get microsoft flight simulator to run.
[08:57] <punsad> _SiLENT_: it's just a joke
[08:57] <m4st3r> ipx_, punsad, cast : amd64 version is installed on my computer..
[08:57] <Polygon89> kahrytan, dont look at me
[08:57] <ward_> stupid question for a stupid GUI: how do i change the textcolor in open office? if i click it the text becomes red i can't choose the color
[08:58] <Polygon89> kahrytan, id like for this to be fixed as much as you ;)
[08:58] <ipx_> m4st3r: if you're having problem with it, i'd recommend you to install the 32bit-version
[08:58] <m4st3r> ipx_, punsad, cast : regular i386 version is print log and down
[08:58] <faileas> nanonyme: same would work on windows ;) i;ve seen mil spec encrypted systems running win 98!
[08:58] <ward_> how do i change the textcolor in open office? if i click it the text becomes red i can't choose the color
[08:58] <_SiLENT_> punsad, sorry for stupid moves, my English sux :)
[08:58] <kahrytan> Polygon89, I got ODD.
[08:58] <faileas> cast: personally freedom is running whatever OS i wanna run ;)
[08:58] <nanonyme> faileas, true :) most OS's can be secure if given enough effort
[08:58] <Irreducibilis> Except Vista
[08:59] <m4st3r> ipx_, log message is "mp-bios bug : 8254 timer not connected to io-apic"
[08:59] <shiznix> anyone know why imagemagick version hasn't been updated in over 2 years (same old version has just made it into Gutsy also) ?
[08:59] <punsad> that was meant for m4st3r
[08:59] <faileas> nanonyme: with windows part of it is user culture, admin by default is a ****ing bad idea ;)
[08:59] <ipx_> m4st3r: sorry cant help you there
[08:59] <punsad> oops
[08:59] <nanonyme> :D
[08:59] <m4st3r> ipx_, yeah thanks :)
[08:59] <m4st3r> punsad, what's mean?
[08:59] <nanonyme> faileas, it's been partly corrected in vista
[08:59] <punsad> m4st3r
[08:59] <ipx_> m4st3r: google some if you cant make it :)
[08:59] <_SiLENT_> so how do u guys search for good soft in linux/ubuntu. I windows I do it through google...
[08:59] <faileas> then again, on my first distro i kept a root shell open all the time ><
[08:59] <punsad> m4st3r: that was a typing mistake
[08:59] <m4st3r> ipx_, yeah
[09:00] <nanonyme> faileas, if you use admin as everyday use, it wants you to confirm about every program start
[09:00] <punsad> _SiLENT_: same with linux.. use google
[09:00] <faileas> nanonyme: yeah, but still *education* is what makes a system secure. after a while people get complacent
[09:00] <kahrytan> Polygon89, Whats the difference between xine and gstreamer?
[09:00] <faileas> _SiLENT_: google and apt-get ;)
[09:00] <_SiLENT_> OK
[09:00] <Polygon89> kahrytan, no idea, but it plays all my videos the same as gstreamer.....
[09:01] <punsad> _SiLENT_: but to search what's *available* you can do thinks like : apt-cache search mp3   (to see what mp3 available software is available... this doesn't mean its good)
[09:01] <faileas> nanonyme: i might partitally switch to ROS for windows based systems once it gets outa alpha, its really interesting
[09:01] <kahrytan> Polygon89, I tried with xine. Ill stick to vlc
[09:01] <root__> ubuntu
[09:01] <root__> ola
[09:01] <_SiLENT_> so are there more free alternatives in linux soft to non-free stuff in windos?
[09:01] <root__> xD
[09:01] <kahrytan> Polygon89, Mostly because my media apps use gstreamer
[09:01] <Polygon89> kahrytan, it doesnt remove gstreamer
[09:01] <faileas> root__: you should know better than to irc as root ;)
[09:01] <bobodclown> lo all< having problem with sound in ubuntu, doesnt work sometimes when boot, have to reboot until it works, taking more reboots recently, any dieas? Feisty with a SB live 1024 card
[09:02] <Pie-rate> well shit. i think i may've just found a bug in evolution. i had a recurring event set up to play REALLY LOUD music at 7:30 in the morning, and it just started playing at 12:00 in the morning.
[09:02] <Polygon89> kahrytan, i have totem-xine installed, and exaile uses gstreamer and it still works fine
[09:02] <ward_> ok i'm gonna have to look for an alternative for openoffice, because the GUI is extremely bad
[09:02] <faileas> _SiLENT_: yeah, OOo for MS office etc
[09:02] <punsad> _SiLENT_: there often are alternatives
[09:02] <_SiLENT_> for example, OO is better than M$O?
[09:02] <faileas> ward_ : koffice?
[09:02] <daschl> Has anyone information about the tribe 6 release today???
[09:02] <punsad> _SiLENT_: if you've been an office user for a long time, you might find open office not so good
[09:02] <_SiLENT_> or the same?
[09:02] <_SiLENT_> punsad, why?
[09:02] <kahrytan> Polygon89, I know that
[09:02] <frogzoo> is there any way to set a theme for a kde app that's running in gnome ?
[09:02] <faileas> _SiLENT_: the real question is does OOo do what you want ;)
[09:03] <_SiLENT_> as for Office, I use only basic functions there
[09:03] <punsad> _SiLENT_: because you are so used to office adn the way it works
[09:03] <nanonyme> faileas, never heard
[09:03] <Pie-rate> _SiLENT_: for most people, Openoffice.org is way more than sufficient.
[09:03] <kahrytan> Polygon89, Which is better xine or gstreamer for web media?
[09:03] <Polygon89> daschl, it may be released later today.... but if your impatient install tribe 5 and you'll just update to tribe 6
[09:03] <sauvin> Depends on how "expert" he is with office. I used office for many years and found openoffice actually kinda genial.
[09:03] <Polygon89> kahrytan, i think the embedded firefox media player is mplayer... not sure what that uses
[09:03] <frogzoo> kahrytan: gstreamer is only a plugin, not a player like xine/gxing/mplayer/vlc
[09:03] <kahrytan> it's totem
[09:03] <kahrytan> totem-mozilla
[09:03] <_SiLENT_> I guess the best way to know is to "touch everything with your own hands":)
[09:03] <daschl> Polygon89, well i dont want to try it on my machine i want to know what and if there are new features.. the printing feature description in tribe5 impressed me :>
[09:04] <daschl> Polygon89, and, of course the xorg config tool
[09:04] <faileas> nanonyme: its a bit like a totally scratch built reimplimentation of windows, GPL. unlike windows, its properly documented and open source ;)
[09:04] <kahrytan> what plugin for .mov files?
[09:04] <faileas> nanonyme: www.reactos.org
[09:04] <Polygon89> daschl, the feature freeze was like in tribe 5 so its just bug fixes in tribe 6...
[09:05] <_SiLENT_> but as I have no good internet, I'll have to wait
[09:05] <Geoffrey2> is there any instance I'd want reiserfs instead of ext3?
[09:05] <bobodclown> scratch that, i got it working
[09:05] <punsad> _SiLENT_: do you get charged per kb downloaded/
[09:05] <daschl> Polygon89, oh.. but new artwork may be present :>
[09:05] <sauvin> Geoffrey, reiserfs is said to be a better choice if you have millions of SMALL files.
[09:06] <punsad> _SiLENT_: I used debian with a dialup connection for a while.  it worked fine
[09:06] <bobodclown> If you press ctrl-alt-1 to go into command line, how do you get back to xwin? :)
[09:06] <Polygon89> daschl, well the ubunu devs are human.. they are most likely sleeping and will release today
[09:06] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[09:06] <_SiLENT_> punsad, I get charged per bit :)
[09:06] <xjkx> hi i need lilo to load ubuntu
[09:06] <punsad> it was so cool.. any time I did apt-get install XXX... it would automatically dial up to the ineternet
[09:06] <codeshah> any ruby on rails coders here?
[09:06] <sauvin> .oO(dialup!?)
[09:06] <ward_> faileas, thanx for the tip, i can't even change the damn textcolor in openoffice!
[09:06] <daschl> Polygon89, i know ;) ... but there are different time zones :D .. i thought maybe a wiki page is up but it doesnt matter for now.. thank you :)
[09:06] <kahrytan> xjkx, is there a reason to not use grub?
[09:06] <punsad> _SiLENT_: forget it then... linux requires a lot of data to download
[09:07] <DJ_Danni> I have a Webserver and i have .aspx at my Server but how do i install asp Support? When i try to browser.asp or .aspx i only see the Codes.
[09:07] <punsad> sauvin: I've been using linux since 98
[09:07] <_SiLENT_> punsad, that's what I am talking about, shall wait until I buy that damn sat
[09:07] <punsad> used RedHat 6.1 then switched to debian potato
[09:07] <zoredache> DJ_Danni: aspx is an 'iis' thing
[09:07] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me with that?
[09:07] <punsad> _SiLENT_: I think so
[09:08] <xjkx> kahrytan, yea i couldnt make slack be added, and now that lilo is installed i dont even know how to grub-install, i ran the livecd but grub-install didnt work, anyway, lilo is installed and i want it  to load
[09:08] <punsad> _SiLENT_: unless you want to spend $$$
[09:08] <zoredache> I don't know of any free 'asp/aspx' tools that you can run on #ubuntu... perhaps someone else does though
[09:08] <DJ_Danni> zoredache what do you mean?
[09:08] <jesson> how can i run .exe file ???
[09:08] <_SiLENT_> sending $$$ is not our way :)
[09:08] <_SiLENT_> *spending
[09:09] <sauvin> That depends on what the .exe is, jesson.
[09:09] <punsad> _SiLENT_: for example... if you do a simple 'apt-get install gnucash' or something like that -- it will want to install all the other packages that are required to make gnucash work
[09:09] <DJ_Danni> zoredache what do you mean?
[09:09] <jesson> its a bot for chat program used for connecting to b.net
[09:09] <zoredache> I mean asp/aspx won't run on apache with software included in ubuntu
[09:09] <punsad> _SiLENT_: wait till you get internet that doesn't charge per bit
[09:09] <_SiLENT_> punsad, does it inform about all downloads?
[09:09] <jesson> when i try to use wine i get an error
[09:09] <overclucker> jesson, for winblows?
[09:10] <aldaek> who are you with that charges per bit?
[09:10] <zoredache> or at least I don't know how
[09:10] <jesson> its a bot for b.net
[09:10] <jesson> starcraft game
[09:10] <punsad> _SiLENT_: yes.. it will show you what needs to be downloaded and ask if you want to proceed
[09:10] <DJ_Danni> zoredache how can i then run asp/aspx?
[09:10] <_SiLENT_> aldaek :) kidding, just really expensive traffic
[09:10] <ninjabooty> I think the free software movement needs their own TLD
[09:10] <ninjabooty> oh wait ... it's .org
[09:10] <ninjabooty> nevermind
[09:10] <zoredache> DJ_Danni: install windows?
[09:10] <ninjabooty> but like ... [dot] oss ... or [dot] free
[09:10] <aldaek> .oss :)
[09:10] <DJ_Danni> nowhay
[09:11] <aldaek> lol
[09:11] <zoredache> or wait until you find someone who knows more about it then I do
[09:11] <xjkx> why noone knows how to add ubuntu to lilo?
[09:11] <jesson> anyone?? how can i run .exe application ??
[09:11] <DJ_Danni> ok
[09:11] <punsad> xjkx: lilo is old
[09:11] <_SiLENT_> OK, thank you guys for useful info
[09:11] <punsad> jesson: wine
[09:11] <aldaek> wine... or a few other applications that mimic windows
[09:11] <aldaek> or install windows in a vm
[09:11] <jesson> ok punsad ill paste the error i get when i use wine
[09:11] <xjkx> punsad, i have the latest version of it, if they didnt develop anything newer is because it is not needed
[09:11] <_SiLENT_> I hope to kill M$ in my computer soon :)
[09:12] <aldaek> lol
[09:12] <punsad> _SiLENT_: if you have the time and patience, it can be done
[09:12] <_SiLENT_> punsad, thanx
[09:12] <_SiLENT_> have a nice time
[09:12] <_SiLENT_> bye
[09:12] <jesson> err:module:import_dll Library MSVBVM60.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\jesson\\bot\\eternalchat.exe") not found
[09:13] <punsad> _SiLENT_: you too.
[09:13] <jesson> err:module:import_dll Library MSVBVM60.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\jesson\\bot\\eternalchat.exe") not found
[09:13] <jesson>    thats wat i get when i use wine
[09:13] <aldaek> is that dll in the same dir as your exe?
[09:13] <punsad> jesson: hmm.. does that eternalchat.exe exist in the right directory?
[09:13] <overclucker> jesson, find MSVBVM60.DLL
[09:14] <jesson> which dir shud i put it??
[09:14] <bobodclown> hey guys, having an issue here, can now get rhythmbox to play music but vlc wont, ive tried all the auio output it offers.. any ideas?
[09:14] <jesson> overlucker where shud i put that dll if i find 1??
[09:14] <aldaek> http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvbvm60 you can download that
[09:14] <ninjabooty> codec problems?
[09:15] <andruk> the prop. nvidia driver does not work under any install method (ubuntu's installer, envy, using bin blob from nvidia, or automatix - all on a fresh install).  it may be a hardware issue, i am not sure.  (XFX Geforce 7600 GT, I have used appropriate versions of the driver, etc).  my machine reboots and freezes after loading gnome completely.  is there a way i can see what is going wrong?
[09:15] <jesson> and where shud i put that?? after i download it?
[09:15] <ninjabooty> how's ubuntu with installing dependancies?
[09:15] <NemesisD> anyone know how i would find out what the default system font is for ubuntu? specifically i need to figure out what font the update manager is using
[09:15] <ahoj23> hey everyone. can someone spare a few minutes to help me get java to work on kubuntu edgy?
[09:15] <aldaek> doesnt say where
[09:15] <Nutter-Tools> http://www.funzu.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1566&Itemid=49
[09:15] <Creed> jesson, the same folder as the .exe should make wine pick it up
[09:16] <jesson> ok let me try
[09:16] <Creed> jesson, if not then google for "visual basic libraries wine"
[09:16] <aldaek> for wine.. the c:/windows/system32 folder
[09:16] <andruk> NemesisD: Sans, Sans Bold, and monospace is what my machine is (i havent changed it fro default).  do you want more info?
[09:16] <aldaek> whatever wine has configured for that
[09:16] <bobodclown> NemesisD: it might say in System>Perferences>Font
[09:16] <Montaro> for a once off fix, just dump it in Z:\\home\\jesson\\bot\\
[09:16] <andruk> *from
[09:16] <NemesisD> andruk, i havent change anything else so its probably the same
[09:17] <Pie-rate> this is really quite annoying. i never set evolution to annoy me at midnight, but its alarm went off at the wrong time.
[09:17] <jesson> dumpt it?? u how? can u explain further
[09:17] <overclucker> jesson, you can get the dll at http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvbvm60
[09:17] <xjkx> hi i want to add ubuntu to lilo, please read http://www.pastebin.ca/685209
[09:17] <Montaro> extract the file, copy it, whatever you want to call it
[09:17] <Creed> jesson, lol he just meant stick it in the same folder as the eternal.exe file
[09:17] <mike6546> when i try to install windows xp in qemu it says "Line 1 of the inf file \i386\txtsetup.sif is invalid
[09:17] <andruk> NemesisD: for applications, documents, and desktop: sans; for window titles: sans bold; for fixed with font: monospace
[09:17] <mike6546> how do i fix it?
[09:18] <co_bi_sala3> Dim4s_co0L
[09:18] <jesson> i C let me try then
[09:18] <NemesisD> andruk, alright, thanks :)
[09:18] <ninjabooty> what's a good unix for capitalists?
[09:18] <overclucker> xjkx, is /boot/boot correct?
[09:18] <andruk> NemesisD: np
[09:18] <Nutter-Tools> mike6546 what if you crate an unattended install so it by passes that .sif
[09:19] <andruk> ninjabooty: mac.  period.
[09:19] <aldaek> any in bed with MS... j/k
[09:19] <Montaro> mike6546: http://www.wahlau.org/windows_xp_under_qemu_with_ubuntu_breezy .. i know its breezy but it should still pass
[09:19] <mike6546> how do i do that?
[09:19] <ninjabooty> you can make money with things using a bsd style license right?
[09:19] <xjkx> yea /boot has the boot of slackware, the one lilo.conf is, /boot/boot is the /boot of ubuntu that i copied
[09:19] <ahoj23> i'm sorry, can anyone help me with getting jre to work under kubuntu edgy, please?
[09:19] <Nutter-Tools> mike in xp folder is deploy.cab unzip that file and use setupmgr.exe
[09:19] <jesson> can someone tell me wat does Compiling and Installing WineCVS with WineTools do
[09:19] <xjkx> overclucker.
[09:19] <Pie-rate> ninjabooty: you can make money with linux. you sell services, not software.
[09:19] <Creed> ahoj23, tried the .bin installer from Java website?
[09:20] <ninjabooty> so if I make a game for OSS, it's has to be a MMORPG that I charge for?
[09:20] <ahoj23> Creed, I think I did...it didn't work, iirc
[09:20] <ahoj23> but let me try it another time
[09:20] <overclucker> xjkx, why don't you just give ubuntu it's own partition?
[09:20] <Pie-rate> ninjabooty: you don't HAVE to license your game under the GPL
[09:20] <ninjabooty> ah
[09:21] <zcat[1] > Is there any software in ubuntu that will even try to read or write ooxlm files? (like .docx) -- obviously nothing in the standard repos, and I can't find anything on google either
[09:21] <andruk> computer is locking up after installing proprietary nvidia driver.  what log files can i check to see what going on?
[09:21] <xjkx> overclucker, ubuntu has its own partition, hda5
[09:21] <Pie-rate> ninjabooty: furthermore, you can even sell the service of burning a CD
[09:21] <aldaek> just that if you add any gpl based software into your program... then you might want to read the gpl about it
[09:21] <Creed> ninjabooty, if you use any GPL'ed code then you have to release that code.
[09:21] <Pie-rate> ninjabooty: if you wanted to, you could box up ubuntu and put it on a retail shelf for $200 right next to the $250 Windows CD.
[09:21] <ahoj23> Creed, I remember now...I did this on my laptop, but couldn't get it to work on this pc. I remember just getting a package named ubuntu-essentials or something in the like
[09:22] <Baktaah> Anyone with a Intel N wireless, and nvidia 8600m card, that managed to get ubuntu to work?
[09:22] <rrichie> hi
[09:22] <Pie-rate> ninjabooty: you just have to distribute the source code as well.
[09:22] <aldaek> s/laptop/notebook
[09:22] <Creed> ahoj23, Automatix also has Java as well as plugins for it for Firefox, give that a shot :)
[09:22] <zcat[1] > ummm.. there's plenty of non-free software for linux.. never been an issue with that! Lots of completely propriatory games and stuff.
[09:22] <mike6546> how do i bypass the .sif?
[09:22] <Pie-rate> !automatix | ahoj23
[09:22] <ubotu> ahoj23: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:22] <Creed> The unreal series for one :)
[09:22] <aldaek> where are the good proprietary games for linux?
[09:22] <rrichie> when i apt-get upgrade it says : no such file or directory during the process. can anyone help me ?
[09:22] <Pie-rate> Creed: automatix is bad.
[09:22] <ahoj23> Creed, ah, thank you
[09:23] <Pie-rate> ahoj23: automatix is bad.
[09:23] <aldaek> why?
[09:23] <Creed> If it works for people it works, if it breaks they learn not to use it anymore
[09:23] <Montaro> it just is.
[09:23] <Pie-rate> ahoj23: you can get Java and the Java plugins from apt-get
[09:23] <zcat[1] > Nothing stops you from writing completely propriatory stuff for Linux, you just have to write or buy everything yourself, you can't use existing GPL stuff if you don't want to share the result under the same terms
[09:23] <ahoj23> I can?
[09:23] <Pie-rate> Creed: if it breaks their install, they have to reinstall if they don't know how to troubleshoot the problems it causes.
[09:23] <andruk> computer is locking up after installing proprietary nvidia driver.  what log files can i check to see what going on?
[09:23] <ninjabooty> what's OpenGL?
[09:24] <overclucker> xjkx, a full lilo.conf would be nice
[09:24] <Pie-rate> ahoj23: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[09:24] <Sevk> OPENGL FOR LINUX IT IS FREE
[09:24] <ahoj23> Pie-rate: merci, I'll try that
[09:24] <Creed> whoa, a floaty comma
[09:24] <Sevk> DIRECT-X FOR WINDOWS
[09:24] <aldaek> one of the terminals gives a log on bootup... f6 i think... ctrl + f6/
[09:24] <aldaek> ?
[09:24] <mike6546> nutter-tools: check you pm
[09:24] <Baktaah> Anyone with a Intel N wireless, and nvidia 8600m card, that managed to get ubuntu to work?
[09:25] <zcat[1] > Anybody answer my question.. what software is available for Linux that will do stuff with .docx or other ooxml files..?
[09:25] <xjkx> overclucker, its the only part that actually matters :> the other things are slackware loading and win98
[09:25] <aldaek> baktaah, work on the wireless first.. if necessary, you may have to use your wired network for the downloading of files...
[09:25] <aldaek> then work on nvidia
[09:25] <Nutter-Tools> mike6546 didnt get anything... make sure u registered with freenode, otherwise you cant private message
[09:26] <Pie-rate> ninjabooty: OpenGL stands for Open Graphics Library. It's like Direct-X. Basically it's a cross-platform (windows, linux, mac, xbox if you want to hack it, whatever) library that allows programmers to write 3d graphical programs.
[09:26] <Baktaah> aldaek I have tried both, cant get the wireless work in feisty, but in gutsy I can get the 2d to work
[09:26] <mike6546> how do i bypass .sif?
[09:26] <mike6546> like you said
[09:26] <overclucker> xjkx, what happens when you try to boot ubuntu?
[09:26] <xjkx> overclucker, my guess is that ubuntu needs to be chainloaded, it has a chainload +1 in grub, but on lilo, when you loader= like in chainload, there is no +1, they expect you to put a device i think, then its just crazy
[09:26] <Pie-rate> xjkx: try booting an ubuntu iso from qemu
[09:26] <xjkx> it opens some safebox or something
[09:27] <ninjabooty> gcc -o opengl_app.c woot -ogl :D
[09:27] <teKnofreak> zcat[1] , 00xml ?
[09:27] <ninjabooty> I <3 ogl
[09:27] <teKnofreak> i thought they voted against ooxml :-?
[09:27] <zcat[1] > teKnofreak, yeah, apparently it's crossplatform and widely supported...
[09:27] <andruk> zcat[1] : if nobody has answered your question then nobody probably knows.  i for one would refrain from using a format that is not official, but i do sympathize with those who are forced to do so.
[09:27] <ahoj23> Pie-rate, thanks, it works now, yymd!
[09:27] <xjkx> Pie-rate, why would i want to do that
[09:27] <Nutter-Tools> mike6546 - find deploy.cab in winxp cd, uncompress it and run setupmgr.. it will guide you step by step to creating unattended answer file, then it will tell you to paste it in place of the old files
[09:28] <Pie-rate> xjkx: to test that its windows thats broken and not QEMU?
[09:28] <Pie-rate> xjkx: are you sure your XP disc is good?
[09:28] <ninjabooty> I just want to make a sim city clone that doesn't suck
[09:28] <teKnofreak> zcat[1] , crossplatform ? LOL.. widely supported ? LOL
[09:28] <Nutter-Tools> mike6546 - if you need more details the #windows room is very helpful
[09:28] <xjkx> Pie-rate, i believe i am not the one you think i am, i dont even have winxp
[09:29] <Pie-rate> xjkx: oh
[09:29] <teKnofreak> ninjabooty, changing the rules of nature is soo bad ;)
[09:29] <mike6546> hmm
[09:29] <andruk> zcat[1] : i would double check your arguments for using ooxml...it seems that it is not quite as good as hoped
[09:29] <ninjabooty> I want to learn Core ASM
[09:29] <ninjabooty> :(
[09:29] <mike6546> i googled it and it looks like this error is related to creating your own custom xp install cds
[09:29] <Pie-rate> xjkx: i'm tired, fscking evolution decided to wake me up with the alarm that was meant to go off at 7:30 for no reason whatsoever.
[09:29] <ninjabooty> and NVASM
[09:29] <mike6546> but this is default cd
[09:30] <overclucker> xjkx, do you have any real reason for sticking with lilo, or is it just loyalty?
[09:30] <zcat[1] > andruk, Advice from Groklaw was to go ahead and give it a try, and write up any problems or incompatablities.... that's what I'm trying to do!
[09:30] <Nutter-Tools> mike6546 - yea its another option thats all, since you saaid your .sif file throws an error
[09:31] <zcat[1] > so problem #1, finding software under Linux that even pretends to have made a half-assed effort to handle ooxml..
[09:31] <andruk> zcat[1] : ah.  then document away my friend.
[09:31] <andruk> wait...why should anybody try to use ooxml if it isnt standard?
[09:31] <Tijn> what is a common directory to extract my apps to?
[09:31] <ninjabooty> it's ooxml just microsoft trying to ugh ... mess with sweden?
[09:31] <Pie-rate> zcat[1] : why the hell would anyone want to handle ooxml?
[09:32] <ninjabooty> "The nice thing about standards is that there is so many of them to choose from"
[09:32] <ninjabooty> - Andrew S. Tanenbaum
[09:32] <xjkx> overclucker, i have, i couldnt make grub load slackware, then i rly needed slackware to load THAT time, and i reinstalled slack and then chose lilo to be installed, now i dont want to reinstall ubuntu and have grub and try again to make it load slackware, i think the coolest way is to make ubuntu be loaded by lilo
[09:33] <andruk> is there a quick way to fix grub?  (that is put out by ubuntu?)
[09:34] <nanonyme> only if you know what's wrong?
[09:34] <andruk> ah, so theres no way to simply resintall grub, have it scan the disks for bootable partitions, and generate its own menu.list?
[09:35] <overclucker> xjkx, i have no clue wether or not ubuntu needs to chainload  = (
[09:35] <overclucker> andruk supergrub
[09:36] <xjkx> overclucker, checkout /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:36] <andruk> overclucker: ah, thanks.
[09:38] <overclucker> xjkx, it appears at some point i installed it on an extra disk, and no chainloader option
[09:38] <xjkx> i will try to run livecd and install grub again
[09:38] <xjkx> be right back
[09:40] <ninjabooty> is there an open web browser plugin that does the same thing as Flash?
[09:42] <joel_> allo   tlm
[09:42] <MekApelsin> ninjabooty: try gnash?
[09:43] <joel_> hi  room
[09:43] <codeshah> hmm... how do I get rid of nginx
[09:43] <codeshah> ?
[09:44] <joel_> hi room   / salut tlm
 uninstalling it?
[09:47] <chuy_max> codeshah: apt-get remove nginx
[09:48] <chuy_max> or autoremove, or remove --purge, or autoremove --purge
[09:48] <chuy_max> man apt-get
[09:49] <jwein> sdf
[09:49] <ninjabooty> omg!
[09:49] <ninjabooty> I just figured out what this knob on my chair does!
[09:50] <TheZanke> I need some help deciding what brand laptop to get.. I want it to dualboot xp and ubuntu, it will be for on the fly coding and web design, but also be capable of playing a few games decently (on xp)
[09:50] <ninjabooty> TheZanke: get this http://www.tabletpc2.com/Graphics/tablet%20photos/Samsung/Q1%20Ultra/enhanced-samsung-q1-ultra-mobile-pc.jpg
[09:51] <JC_Denton_> I used to be able to use my bcm4318 wifi card but after downing both eth0/1 upping eth1 gives scioflags no such device. using ndiswrapper as driver
[09:52] <TheZanke> the $4,708 Alienware I just window shopped the hell out of makes me get chills...
[09:52] <ninjabooty> this friend of mine bought a $3k mac book bro
[09:52] <ninjabooty> that's top-down *and* bottom up ;)
[09:52] <codeshah> hey guys, I am trying to setup apache... but nginx is in the way ... I cant remove this package .
[09:53] <codeshah> apt-get remove doesnt work properly
[09:53] <TheZanke> ninjabooty, how big is that thing?
[09:53] <ninjabooty> he got the smaller model
[09:53] <ninjabooty> just souped up the guts
[09:53] <TheZanke> ninjabooty, no, the link
[09:53] <ninjabooty> like a sony psp but bigger
[09:53] <TheZanke> looks like my PPC-6700
[09:54] <ninjabooty> I'm gonna say 9" wide
[09:54] <ninjabooty> but I'll have to look
[09:54] <ninjabooty> I <3 tablets
[09:54] <ninjabooty> especially samsung ...anything
[09:55] <TheZanke> my monitors are samsung ^.^
[09:55] <ninjabooty> the screen is 7"
[09:55] <ninjabooty> mine too :D
[09:55] <TheZanke> SyncMaster 225bw
[09:55] <ninjabooty> I wanna buy a 305T
[09:55] <TheZanke> x2
[09:55] <ninjabooty> but I'm poor :(
[09:55] <JC_Denton_> anyone able to assist with wifi bcm4318 ?
[09:55] <taime1> i get this error when starting beryl: "No GLXFBCONFIG for color depth 32"... what can i do to fix this?
[09:55] <ninjabooty> wow! it's *exactly* 9" wide
[09:55] <ninjabooty> I'm a good guesser :D
[09:55] <ninjabooty> that and I got to hold one at Fry's
[09:55] <TheZanke> someone say my name... xchat gives an error when my name is said..
[09:55] <TheZanke> i wanna read it
[09:56] <overclucker> TheZanke,
[09:56] <JC_Denton_> !ubuntu-offtopic | ninjabooty
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-offtopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <TheZanke> didnt do it that time
[09:56] <TheZanke> maybe i have to be out of the window..
[09:56] <ninjabooty> haw haw haw
[09:56] <TheZanke> ninjabooty, say my name in like 2 seconds
[09:57] <raul_bourne> how to connect to internet using n72 modem
[09:57] <overclucker> TheZanke, what error is this \a ?
[09:57] <TheZanke> Wow.. now it doesnt work...
[09:57] <TheZanke> sigh
[09:58] <dunnowatname> hi is thesheep here?
[09:58] <zipp2> !ttyl
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttyl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <ninjabooty> !Belkin
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about belkin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <ninjabooty> you sure don't!
[09:59] <ninjabooty> booyah!
[09:59] <zipp2> lol
[09:59] <codeshah> hey guys, apt-get remove nginx is not removing nginx.... is there a way to force an uninstall?
[10:00] <Frogzoo> codeshah: why won't it?
[10:00] <morrowind> ??
[10:00] <codeshah> frogzoo, http://pastie.caboo.se/94901 ...
[10:00] <dunnowatname> /where to find stuff installed thru synaptics
[10:01] <codeshah> frogzoo, says it cant stop it ... so I killed the processes ... tried again, same thing . and the processes were back
[10:01] <codeshah> frogzoo, any clues ?
[10:02] <Frogzoo> codeshah: sudo /etc/init.d/nglinx stop ?
[10:03] <codeshah> its not in init.d
[10:03] <DF3> Hi, What do I need to do in order to merge the gnome bars? (application and menu bars)
[10:03] <codeshah> dont know where hrrmpf
[10:03] <raul_bourne> is there a way to connect to internet using a mobile in ubuntu
[10:03] <Frogzoo> codeshah: /etc/rc2.d ?
[10:03] <spheard> If I have an rsync server set up, what would be the command to back up directory/ to it?
[10:03] <neztit1> hi - can any one help me with vdr 1.59
[10:04] <codeshah> frogzoo, dont see it there eihter ... I killed the processes as well manually kill
[10:04] <taime1> if i change my color depth in xorg.conf, can that cause x to crash?
[10:04] <Frogzoo> codeshah: did it stay dead?
[10:04] <codeshah> its under /usr/sbin I know that
[10:04] <codeshah> frogzoo, yeah... until I try doing a remove
[10:05] <codeshah> frogzoo, now its back... just tried doing apt-get remove again
[10:05] <Frogzoo> codeshah: kill the processes, then clear out the /var/run/nginx* files
[10:05] <codeshah> k
[10:06] <codeshah> frogzoo, hehe ... its not there
[10:06] <codeshah> no nginx* files in /var/run
[10:06] <codeshah> this is frigging odd
[10:06] <codeshah> what is starting it!?
[10:06] <Frogzoo> codeshah: I would say the uninstall script is starting it...
[10:07] <codeshah> k, gonna poke around ... its late ... i may just have overlooekd sumthing
[10:07] <dunnowatname> anyone can help with network settings?
[10:07] <codeshah> starting from the top bb in 5
[10:07] <Frogzoo> !anyone
[10:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:07] <shellhack> someone knows how to see a smv video in ubuntu
[10:07] <shellhack> for Gods sake
[10:08] <shellhack> Im tired to read
[10:08] <shellhack> and nothing
[10:08] <DF3> How would I make the windows list appear in the menu bar?
[10:08] <Scarey> shellhack, you could always try and download a sample
[10:08] <pigiArf> hi, first time on channel ... I have a problem, may I freely ask? :)
[10:08] <Scarey> shellhack, i'm sure you could google smv sample
[10:08] <dgjones> !ask | pigiArf
[10:08] <ubotu> pigiArf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <Scarey> :)
[10:08] <shellhack> scarey: I have a lot of smv videos
[10:09] <dunnowatname> !wifi
[10:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:09] <shellhack> scarey: I tried hard
[10:09] <Scarey> shellhack, so you tried and it didn't work?
[10:09] <dunnowatname> !smc
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <shellhack> scarey: yes, that's what Im here
[10:09] <Scarey> shellhack: okay.. I'm sorry, I misunderstood you.
[10:10] <shellhack> scarey: ok
[10:11] <shellhack> somebody knows about a plugin or something?
[10:11] <pigiArf> Is it possible to use dots inside a username in ubuntu?
[10:11] <shellhack> a pray?
[10:11] <DF3> Umm Hi. I got the window list to appear in the correct bar, but when I added the Workspace selector, it appeared on the right, I want it on the left, But I can't seem to find any way to change that.
[10:12] <DF3> Ah. Nevermind.
[10:13] <Scarey> shellhack: the sound seems to work ..
[10:13] <shellhack> scary: yeah
[10:14] <shellhack> scary: but the video not
[10:14] <Scarey> ye..
[10:15] <shellhack> I need the video too
[10:15] <Scarey> shellhack: I'm trying to find something.
[10:15] <shellhack> ok
[10:16] <Scarey> shellhack: it seems other ppl have problems with it too..even on other platforms.
[10:16] <shellhack> ok
[10:16] <Scarey> shellhack: a lot of ppl suggesting to convert.
[10:16] <shellhack> ok
[10:16] <Scarey> or use the player that came with the CD.. does that make sence?
[10:16] <Scarey> sense
[10:16] <Scarey> *
[10:17] <zcat[1] > found the answer; novell have a plugin for openoffice to read and write ooxml   http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=ESrjfdE4U58~
[10:17] <zcat[1] > testing it now...
[10:17] <shellhack> scarey: not the cd doest have a player
[10:17] <Zoidfarb> Hey, which is lighter on system resources? Gnome or KDE?
[10:17] <shellhack> scarey: just a converter of others video formats to smv
[10:17] <Scarey> shellhack: ok..
[10:17] <ninjabooty> gnome, I believe
[10:17] <ninjabooty> it's all about the fluxbox though
[10:17] <shellhack> scarey: theres no way to convert a smv video to the ancient format
[10:18] <Zoidfarb> fluxbox is way too light for me. I need some kind of icons/panels/etc
[10:19] <Scarey> shellhack: it seems like there's a converter for SMV -> Avi
[10:19] <shellhack> scarey: and the name is?
[10:20] <Scarey> I'm not sure it's a linux app
[10:21] <gogeta> gnome
[10:21] <gogeta> LOL
[10:21] <shellhack> scarey: ok
[10:21] <gogeta> zoid what abought xface
[10:21] <TheZanke> how do i turn on evolution's taskbar icon? i want it to stay opne, in the background... like banshee can
[10:21] <sauvin> wtf is smv?
[10:21] <xjkx> how do i install grub
[10:21] <ninjabooty> where's all the ogg vorbis at?
[10:21] <xjkx> im in the live
[10:21] <Scarey> SigmaTel Motion Video I think
[10:22] <shellhack> scarey: apt-cache search dont know
[10:22] <gogeta> ninja when you convert them out of mp3
[10:22] <gogeta> lol
[10:22] <Zoidfarb> gogeta, I might give that a try. Somebody told me it was less functional than Gnome/KDE though
[10:22] <tparcina> how to install Kernel Headers? I use Ubuntu 7.04 updated, and kernel is 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:22] <neztit1> vdr: sorry, I refuse to run with root privileges
[10:22] <shellhack> scarey: ummm ummm
[10:22] <neztit1> any help???
[10:22] <xjkx> i`m in the livecd trying to install grub, because lilo cant load ubuntu
[10:22] <shellhack> scarey: that converts others formats to smv
[10:23] <zcat[1] > !grub
[10:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <shellhack> scarey: no smv to other formats
[10:23] <dvs01> http://www.dvs01.net/pics/workstation.jpg
[10:23] <Scarey> shellhack: the program is for windows only.
[10:23] <Scarey> http://www.powerman-mp3.ru/goodscat/images/items/181/files/AVI_SMV%20video%20convertor.rar
[10:23] <shellhack> scarey: yeap
[10:23] <tparcina> !grub
[10:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <Zoidfarb> "I'm in ur live cd installing ur grub"
[10:24] <shellhack> scarey: but it doesnt work for I need for
[10:24] <shellhack> scarey: convert others formats to smv
[10:24] <zcat[1] > from memory; mkdir /target; mount /dev/hda1 /target ; grub-install --root-directory=/target /dev/hda
[10:24] <shellhack> scarey: dont convert smv to other formats
[10:24] <Scarey> shellhack: ye.. sry about that.. nothing more I can do.
[10:24] <xjkx> Zoidfarb: huh
[10:24] <shellhack> scarey: ok thanks
[10:24] <Scarey> shellhack: np.. didn't do much good anyway. :)
[10:24] <tparcina> where to find kernel headers for 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:25] <zcat[1] > tpa apt-cache search headers 2.6.20-16-generic  perhaps?
[10:25] <zcat[1] > zcat@aragog:~$  apt-cache search headers 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:25] <zcat[1] > linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.20 on x86/x86_64
[10:26] <zcat[1] > hmmm..
[10:26] <shellhack> other day without answer I come tomorrow
[10:26] <erUSUL> tparcina: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[10:26] <shellhack> if anybody knows how to play a smv video send to my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:26] <shellhack> bye
[10:27] <overclucker> xjkx, from console sudo grub
[10:27] <Zoidfarb> wtf is an smv video?
[10:27] <zcat[1] > erUSUL, only if that's the kernel he's currently rnning :)
[10:27] <nanonyme> erUSUL, why not `uname -r`?
[10:27] <Zoidfarb> does VLC not play it?
[10:28] <zevah> qkkw
[10:28] <zevah> hih
[10:28] <erUSUL> nanonyme: it is the same... but i allways end explaining people which ones of the '` to use. it is easier to read with $() imnsho
[10:29] <nanonyme> erUSUL, yeah. i just dunno if $() works in every shell
[10:29] <zevah> hi nanonyme
[10:29] <zcat[1] > SO; from now on I'm exporting everything to .docx with novell's plugin. If it's 100% compatable as Microsoft says, nobody should have any problem reading them, right? ;)
[10:29] <nanonyme> zcat[1] , heya
[10:31] <simplechat> zcat[1] , but its .docx, so nobody would read it, anyway
[10:31] <zcat[1] > no problem. Not like anybody reads what I write anyhow :)
[10:31] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[10:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:32] <zevah> hiiiiiiiii
[10:32] <simplechat> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[10:32] <Keule|On> hi there
[10:32] <Keule|On> how can i start the xserver setup... my gui crashed
[10:33] <gogeta> knoe something funny
[10:33] <gogeta> my sound cord works better in linux
[10:33] <gogeta> card
[10:33] <Xander> im as real as jesus
[10:33] <gogeta> keula startx
[10:33] <zcat[1] > gogeta, I have a whole BOX of cards (sound, network, TV tuner, etc..) that ONLY work in Linux..
[10:34] <beni> should I switch of the .bash_history feature of my server or not? I mean its often used maliciously to gather information isn't it?
[10:34] <gogeta> mine works better lol
 dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <gogeta> it sees my amp bord windows doesent
 sorry, it's this: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <zippy_> beni, no point...really its just history of previously executed commands
[10:34] <Xenu> that just may be about the dumbest BS ive heard Zcat. Where do you buy your hardware? Did you design it yourself?
[10:34] <gogeta> he said it crashed he asked how to restart it
[10:35] <zcat[1] > heaps of older hardware only works in Linux, because they never bothered to update the drivers or the company went out of business and you just can't find drivers for windows any more..
[10:35] <gogeta> lol not reconfigure
[10:35] <Extravert> w00t w00t w00t
[10:35] <beni> zcat[1] : ack
[10:35] <zcat[1] > .. and plenty of new hardware works ootb in Linux, but needs drivers for windows
[10:35] <zippy_> zcat, you can run them on freedos, which aint linux ;)
[10:36] <zcat[1] > run what on freedos?
[10:36] <Xenu> If its that old why don't you just spend $50 for some old POS and have twice the power?
[10:36] <zippy_> zcat, you obselete hardware
[10:36] <zippy_> your*
[10:36] <Xenu> Or better yet why dont you just throw some trash out of your house.
[10:36] <Keule|On> chuy_max : my linux tells me - that xserver isnt installed?
[10:37] <zcat[1] > Why throw stuff away if it still works perfectly well?
[10:37] <Keule|On> and i typed sudo dpkg.... in
[10:37] <Evanlec> how can GRUB still exist after i've installed windows vista partition taking the whole drive and running FIXMBR ??
[10:37] <zippy_> good point, i love deprecated hardware :)
[10:37] <Xenu> Because its worthless. What function does it serve you?
[10:37] <overclucker> Xenu, hey! i cherish my trash
[10:37] <m_> how do i install vmware server in ubuntu x64
[10:37] <Frogzoo> Evanlec: cos it's harding on your 2nd drive
[10:37] <Flannel> !grub | Evanlec
[10:37] <ubotu> Evanlec: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:37] <Evanlec> Frogzoo, 2nd drive is disconnected
[10:37] <zcat[1] > I have no money. Free hardware that's a little old is much better than no hardware at all
[10:37] <chuy_max> Keule|On xserver-xorg ?
[10:37] <Xenu> I took an apple IIe box and put a P3 back when they came out and I thought I was lame.
[10:38] <Flannel> Evanlec: oh, sorry.  I'll stop misreading your questions.
[10:38] <Keule|On> oh thanx!
[10:38] <Frogzoo> Evanlec: then you didn't delete grub I guess
[10:38] <zevah> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:38] <Xenu> Zcat I can only have hope in that youre under the age of 15 and cannot get a job.
[10:38] <Evanlec> Frogzoo, i guess not, everytime i boot up, right before windows splash screen i see some grub text display quickly
[10:38] <Keule|On> is nv an abriviation for nvidia in the setup?
[10:38] <nanonyme> meh, you can still have 0 budget for computers if you have a job
[10:39] <Evanlec> Frogzoo, which wouldnt be a problem, except that last time i installed ubuntu on my 2nd drive, windows wouldnt boot up anymore
[10:39] <gogeta> LOL
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> Keule|On: nv is he name of the open-source nvidia driver
[10:39] <Keule|On> is nv an abriviation for nvidia in the setup?
[10:39] <Keule|On> ok
[10:39] <Keule|On> so its nvidia
[10:39] <zippy_> Keule, yes, nv are the drivers implemented by the folk at xorg,
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> yeah
[10:39] <Evanlec> Keule|On, dont even try the nvidia option ;p
[10:39] <Keule|On> good so i have an nv - card - and i take this )
[10:39] <overclucker> xenu, there is a place for people like u: ##windows
[10:40] <Keule|On> what?  You have to install it later if you want it. Choose "nv" for now - it should work fine :)
[10:41] <Evanlec> lol zcat[1]
[10:42] <zippy_> or you can use "vesa"
[10:42] <zippy_> i think
[10:42] <Evanlec> how can GRUB still exist after i've installed windows vista partition taking the whole drive and running FIXMBR ??
[10:42] <zevah> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:42] <zevah> hello
[10:42] <dunnowatname> :( xubuntu is slow
[10:42] <Keule|On> thanx
[10:42] <SlimeyPete> zippy_: you can, but it's not a good idea unless you're desperate
[10:42] <Keule|On> i hope it will work
[10:42] <snoop> hi
[10:43] <zippy_> SlimpeyPete, yea just throwing out random options lol..
[10:43] <overclucker> dunnowatname, xubuntu is less taxing than gome based
[10:43] <zcat[1] > I think vesa would work.. but nv should work better
[10:43] <overclucker> *gnome
[10:43] <jarnos> dunnowatname, do you know a faster option?
[10:43] <AdvoWork> hi there, does this: chgrp filter /opt/zimbra/postfix/conf/disclaimer chmod 750 /opt/zimbra/postfix/conf/disclaimer  basically set the user filter to have permisson to run the disclaimer file?
[10:44] <zippy_> !chmod > AdvoWork
[10:44] <aleix> does anyone know if there is a particular channel to talk about dhcpd server?
[10:45] <zippy_> aleix, in particular ?.. setting up a dhcp connection?
[10:45] <zcat[1] > aleix, I've set up dhcp servers once or twice...
[10:45] <aleix> i need to know how to log request from all clients and ip given
[10:46] <zcat[1] > aleix, dhcp keeps a lease file somewhere, can't rememebr where off the top of my head. I think it also logs them to /var/log/messages when it hands them out
[10:47] <aleix> yes, the dhcpd.leases file i know where it is and it is fine, as long as you have not defined hosts on your dhcpd.conf... these are not log into the leases file...
[10:48] <aleix> i found it... my mistake... it goes to local7 log facility... thanks anyway!
[10:48] <zcat[1] > aleix, cool, glad to help :)
[10:55] <realnewguy> hey there im trying to dl planeshift, its a torrent, but when the torrent trys to connect to the tracker i get "urlopen(111, 'connection refused') is there something blocking it?
[10:55] <gogeta> netsplits are fun lol
[10:55] <gogeta> real do you have comcast
[10:56] <realnewguy> i dont think so,
[10:56] <realnewguy> sorry whats comcast?
[10:56] <gogeta> torrent could be down
[10:56] <realnewguy> ahh ok
[10:56] <gogeta> cable isp
[10:56] <gogeta> there blocking bittorrent
[10:56] <realnewguy> ived got dsl
[10:56] <gogeta> lucky for me i moved where there not
[10:56] <gogeta> lol
[10:57] <gogeta> used to have em
[10:57] <realnewguy> oh ok, is there someway to configure gnmoe bittorent to use the port that i choose to portforward?
[10:57] <Frogzoo> gogeta: you can't block bit torrent, not really
[10:57] <realnewguy> *gnome
[10:57] <gogeta> yep they are
[10:57] <Keule|On> so now i have a new problem... i dont have any window decoration..
[10:57] <gogeta> illagle
[10:57] <gogeta> there using the same firewall china uses
[10:57] <Keule|On> and i cant type anythin in textfields etc
[10:58] <realnewguy> whats a good bittorent client for ubuntu?
[10:58] <gogeta> pick one lol
[10:58] <realnewguy> well, the default one has no options
[10:58] <zcat[1] > I use rtorrent, it's text based so I can background it in screen and leave it running when I'm logged out
[10:59] <gogeta> thers azures
[10:59] <Textbook> I use Azureus
[10:59] <Dark_Rain> morning all
[10:59] <overclucker> Keule|On, this is a text field isn't t?
[10:59] <JC_Denton____> I used to be able to use my bcm4318 wifi card but after downing both eth0/1 upping eth1 gives scioflags no such device. using ndiswrapper
[10:59] <gogeta> java based does use alot of cpu but has the most features
[10:59] <Keule|On> the terminal for ex
[10:59] <gogeta> some say utorrent is good to
[10:59] <realnewguy> ah ok, ill try azureus
[10:59] <Keule|On> i can write in openoffice but not in the terminal and pidgnin...
[10:59] <realnewguy> ya i used to use utorrent when i had windows
[10:59] <Keule|On> shiiit
[11:00] <realnewguy> is there a utorrent for ubuntu?
[11:00] <Dark_Rain> realnewguy, use wine
[11:00] <Dark_Rain> :)
[11:00] <gogeta> i think thers a linux version
[11:00] <Dark_Rain> there is no utorrent for Linux
[11:00] <gogeta> most torrents do have one
[11:00] <gogeta> waaa
[11:00] <gogeta> wine cough
[11:00] <gogeta> lol
[11:00] <blacklotus89> hey guys is it the normal situation that the standard kubuntu system does not have the gcc?
[11:00] <Dark_Rain> i didn't saw one
[11:00] <overclucker> Keule|On, that's a strange problem
[11:00] <Keule|On> it is
[11:00] <Frogzoo> gogeta: torrent over tor
[11:01] <Dark_Rain> apt-get install build-essentials
[11:01] <Keule|On> i deinstalled my nvidia driver...
[11:01] <gogeta> hehe
[11:01] <gogeta> azures as a ip blocker soo
[11:01] <zcat[1] > !b-e | blacklotus89
[11:01] <ubotu> blacklotus89: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:01] <gogeta> toe kinda unnessary
[11:01] <gogeta> tor
[11:01] <Dark_Rain> blacklotus89,
[11:01] <blacklotus89> yeah Dark_Rain `
[11:01] <blacklotus89> ?
[11:02] <blacklotus89> zcat[1] : i will read
[11:02] <Dark_Rain> if you wanna install gcc use apt-get install build-essentials
[11:02] <blacklotus89> Dark_Rain: done the already
[11:02] <blacklotus89> this*
[11:02] <Dark_Rain> and you will have a Gcc compiler + standard libs
[11:02] <Dark_Rain> then what's the problem?
[11:02] <Dark_Rain> :)
[11:02] <zcat[1] > BE should have installed gcc+make+someotherstuff
[11:02] <kornerr>  i have problems with /etc/apt/sources.list, i made my Packages.gz in /media/UbuntuRep with the cmd 'dpkgs-scanpackages . /dev/null /media/UbuntuRep | gzip -9c Packages.gz', placed the file Packages.gz to /media/UbuntuRep and try to 'apt-get install mplayer', and it fails telling me that 'can't find file:/media/UbuntuRep//media/UbuntuRep/d1/pool/blah', then i've edited Packages.gz and removed all '/media/UbuntuRep/' inclusions, but it still shows the same
[11:02] <blacklotus89> i have installed gcc 3 and gcc 4 build-essentials automake and libs
[11:02] <gogeta> dark rain??
[11:03] <gogeta> gcc failing>
[11:03] <Bysmeden> is there a way to go back , think my system is slower today ?
[11:03] <Dark_Rain> gogeta, yes?
[11:03] <gogeta> ?
[11:03] <gogeta> ?
[11:03] <gogeta> said app might need more things
[11:03] <Keule|On> can anyone help? getting my window decoration back?
[11:04] <_CroX_> Anyone know of an application that exports to FLV?
[11:04] <gogeta> vlc plays them naticly
[11:04] <zcat[1] > _CroX_, I thought vlc did it.. perhaps not..?
[11:04] <gogeta> you whant to encode into flv?
[11:04] <zcat[1] > I know it plays them :)
[11:04] <_CroX_> I want to encode into flv.
[11:05] <gogeta> i think mencoder can
[11:05] <masterofdarkness> hehehe
[11:05] <_CroX_> gogeta: That'd be golden! I'll check it out, thanks!
[11:05] <gogeta> ffmpeg can
[11:05] <gogeta> google is yor frend
[11:06] <zcat[1] > Usually I want to convert from flv ..
[11:06] <gogeta> http://flowplayer.org/documentation/encoding
[11:06] <kornerr> damn
[11:06] <shellhack> hello
[11:06] <blacklotus89> Dark_Rain: http://rafb.net/p/SJodj523.html
[11:06] <shellhack> I have a problem with a .avi file
[11:06] <zcat[1] > I know; upload them to youtube and then download them again :)
[11:06] <kornerr> i have problem that i can't install anything
[11:06] <kornerr> lol
[11:06] <Dark_Rain> sec blacklotus89
[11:06] <_CroX_> gogeta: Been checking Flowplayer out but I missed that. Thanks alot"!
[11:07] <gogeta> kormerr what?
[11:07] <shellhack> the file has a 178.1 MB but the video player says that the video just have 1:00 minute
[11:07] <Dark_Rain> blacklotus89,
[11:07] <Dark_Rain> what is the source code
[11:07] <shellhack> all my video player do that with other videos
[11:07] <kornerr> anyone here tried to make OWN repository localy?
[11:07] <shellhack> my video players close the video before this end ups
[11:07] <kornerr> i can't do it
[11:08] <gogeta> you need to inport the keys
[11:08] <gogeta> iof you add a new respo
[11:08] <zcat[1] > kornerr, when you find out how, let me know too :)
[11:08] <kornerr> i did with dpkg-scanpackages
[11:08] <kornerr> and it doesn't work
[11:08] <blacklotus89> Dark_Rain: it's a linux kernel
[11:08] <gogeta> lol
[11:09] <gogeta> read any guide on adding a respo relly
[11:09] <blacklotus89> atm looging for ncurses
[11:09] <kornerr> damn
[11:09] <kornerr> i did
[11:09] <kornerr> i have problems with /etc/apt/sources.list, i made my Packages.gz in /media/UbuntuRep with the cmd 'dpkgs-scanpackages . /dev/null /media/UbuntuRep | gzip -9c Packages.gz', placed the file Packages.gz to /media/UbuntuRep and try to 'apt-get install mplayer', and it fails telling me that 'can't find file:/media/UbuntuRep//media/UbuntuRep/d1/pool/blah', then i've edited Packages.gz and removed all '/media/UbuntuRep/' inclusions, but it still shows the same e
[11:09] <Ryuho> ice cream time!
[11:09] <Dark_Rain> blacklotus89,
[11:09] <gogeta> they all show you how to inport
[11:09] <kornerr> now read mine please
[11:09] <Dark_Rain> do you have kernel headers?
[11:09] <kornerr> that's how it is described everywhere about Personal repository
[11:10] <UNDERsoN> Who know will be gui vpn client in Ubuntu 7.10
[11:10] <Dark_Rain> and you need ncurses installed
[11:10] <m_> how to get a yahoo messenger for ubuntu amd x64
[11:10] <Dark_Rain> like apt-get install ^ncurses
[11:10] <zcat[1] > m_, try gaim ?
[11:10] <savvas> can i install amd64 alternate over an i386 installation or should i format the root partition?
[11:10] <m_> gaim is there
[11:10] <m_> but i want to chat in a room
[11:11] <gogeta> yahoo messanger linux doesent have voice
[11:11] <blacklotus89> ll try
[11:11] <blacklotus89> nice thx Dark_Rain
[11:11] <m_> it is a 32 bit ,it wont install on my machine
[11:11] <UNDERsoN> Is there gui vpn clien for linux ?
[11:12] <kornerr> i guess i'm the only one here with 4 ubuntu dvds that can't use it
[11:12] <kornerr> crap
[11:12] <savvas> UNDERsoN: go to applications > add/remove search for "vpn"
[11:12] <gogeta> m_ 32 bit packages should install fine on a 64 bit pc
[11:12] <zcat[1] > zZzZ
[11:12] <savvas> kornerr: what's wrong?
[11:12] <m_> it doesnt
[11:12] <m_> it says wrong architecture
[11:13] <m_> when it is about to unpack a .deb package
[11:13] <kornerr> savvas: i want to install packages from the dvds
[11:13] <kornerr> but i can't
[11:14] <kornerr> because i can't get them to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <gogeta> gyachl is a yahoo linux chat client supports voice to
[11:15] <Dark_Rain> blacklotus89,  is ok now
[11:15] <Dark_Rain> ?
[11:15] <gogeta> komerr you try the guio way
[11:15] <savvas> kornerr: have you tried going to system > administration > software sources, then putting in a cdrom and checking it in a list?
[11:15] <gogeta> gui
[11:15] <gogeta> and add cd
[11:15] <gogeta> LOL
[11:15] <kornerr> :/
[11:15] <m_> thanx i will try it gogeta
[11:15] <kornerr> ok, again
[11:15] <kornerr> savvas: i have problems with /etc/apt/sources.list, i made my Packages.gz in /media/UbuntuRep with the cmd 'dpkgs-scanpackages . /dev/null /media/UbuntuRep | gzip -9c Packages.gz', placed the file Packages.gz to /media/UbuntuRep and try to 'apt-get install mplayer', and it fails telling me that 'can't find file:/media/UbuntuRep//media/UbuntuRep/d1/pool/blah', then i've edited Packages.gz and removed all '/media/UbuntuRep/' inclusions, but it still shows th
[11:15] <kornerr> i do exactly this ^^^
[11:15] <savvas> oh :)
[11:15] <gogeta> so you borked your apy list
[11:15] <gogeta> LOL
[11:15] <TheZanke> Goodnight(morning) #ubuntu!
[11:16] <kornerr> no
[11:16] <kornerr> there's some stupid thing about ubuntu
[11:16] <kornerr> i don't get what it is
[11:16] <gogeta> you broke it
[11:16] <gogeta> LOL
[11:16] <kornerr> no i didn't
[11:16] <kornerr> stop loling
[11:16] <gogeta> LOL!!!!!
[11:16] <kornerr> stupid
[11:16] <savvas> uh.. kornerr people usually use "aptoncd" to backup their packages
[11:17] <gogeta> best bet is to set everything back to defult and add your cd threw the gui
[11:17] <kornerr> i have dvds as isos
[11:17] <gogeta> soo
[11:17] <gogeta> just mont em first
[11:17] <kornerr> and mounted to /media/UbuntuRep/d{1,2,3,4}
[11:17] <gogeta> and add em
[11:17] <kornerr> and so i don't want to burn them
[11:18] <savvas> hm..
[11:18] <kornerr> it can't add them
[11:18] <gogeta> i said mount them
[11:18] <kornerr> i tried
[11:18] <kornerr> it said it's not cdrom
[11:18] <gogeta> then it will see it as a dvd
[11:18] <kornerr> heh
[11:18] <savvas> kornerr: I think there's a glitch here, I tried alternate upgrade with a mount in /media/ too, which couldn't detect the packages
[11:18] <gogeta> you mount the iso using loopback
[11:19] <kornerr> i know
[11:19] <kornerr> i did already
[11:19] <gogeta> then add it
[11:19] <savvas> kornerr: have you tried to burn the dvds on rewriteable media?
[11:19] <gogeta> the installer whent knoe the diffrence
[11:19] <kornerr> it can't add
[11:19] <kornerr> it says IT"S NOT CDROM
[11:19] <gogeta> then  you didnt mount it is a standerd isp
[11:19] <gogeta> iso\
[11:19] <savvas> gogeta: actually it does :) I already tried and it barks for some installations
[11:20] <kornerr> :/
[11:20] <gogeta> oh
[11:20] <gogeta> never did befor
[11:20] <kornerr> what do you mean std iso?
[11:20] <gogeta> standerd
[11:20] <kornerr> mount -o loop iso /mnt/d1
[11:20] <kornerr> isn't that std?
[11:21] <gogeta> mount myiso.iso /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0
[11:21] <UNDERsoN> What name of package for GUI VPN client
[11:21] <kornerr> it's mounted
[11:21] <kornerr> how do i add it?
[11:21] <kornerr> apt-cdrom add doesn't do it
[11:21] <gogeta> should see it as a cd
[11:22] <kornerr> hm
[11:22] <kornerr> as a cd...
[11:22] <gogeta> doesent matter
[11:22] <gogeta> lol