[19:10] <DPic> #ubuntu-gaming meeting in 50 mins
[23:09] <johnc4510> The newest issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #152 is now available:
[23:09] <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue152


[00:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[01:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session)
[01:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session)
[01:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/unity8)
[07:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2487 Publishing packages
[07:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2487 Proposed pocket (zesty/appmenu-qt5). Release pocket (xenial/appmenu-qt5)
[08:02] <Saviq> rvr, thanks for the review :)
[08:03] <Saviq> Mirv, hey, can you please publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 for us? thanks!
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsdgeos, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2493 QA Signoff: Approved
[08:35] <Mirv> Saviq: sure
[08:35] <Saviq> sil2100, hey, can you publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 for us please?
[08:35] <Mirv> Saviq: if QA would have approved it
[08:35] <Saviq> oh
[08:36] <Mirv> rvr: can you tag the ticket too as approved?
[08:36] <Saviq> Mirv, rvr ACKed it, must've forgotten making the switch https://trello.com/c/n7RakybK/3994-2415-2415-1-unity8-qtmir-qtubuntu-platform-api-ltinkl
[08:36] <Saviq> right
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsdgeos, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2493 Publishing packages
[08:38] <Mirv> I could also trust trello but as rvr is around he could probably click it
[08:40] <Saviq> :)
[08:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2474 Publishing packages
[08:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2454 Proposed pocket (zesty/qtbase-opensource-src). Release pocket (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, zesty/qtbase-opensource-src-gles)
[08:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsdgeos, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2493 Proposed pocket (zesty/geonames). Release pocket (xenial/geonames)
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2485 Publishing packages
[09:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2487 Release pocket
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2474 Proposed pocket (zesty/libhybris). Release pocket (xenial/libhybris)
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2485 Proposed pocket (zesty/unity-system-compositor). Release pocket (xenial/unity-system-compositor)
[09:33] <vigo> morphis, ping
[09:34] <morphis> vigo: pong
[09:34] <vigo> morphis, I'm connected with the eth adapter on db
[09:34] <vigo> and wifi disabled
[09:37] <morphis> ok
[10:01] <Saviq> Mirv, I think rvr's playing tricks on us ;) (or rather stuck in some other review) - can we publish without the switch being switched witch switch switch which?
[10:04] <Mirv> Saviq: well yeah, let's just blame rvr then if he updated trello, found something, didn't update bileto but forgot to put trello back to in progress ...
[10:04] <Saviq> ;)
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Publishing packages
[10:20] <rvr> Mirv: Saviq: Hi!
[10:20] <rvr> What's the problem?
[10:21] <rvr> Mirv: Oh, I forgot to approve it!
[10:21] <rvr> Done :D
[10:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 QA Signoff: Approved
[10:23] <Saviq> rvr, thanks :)
[10:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/unity8). Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session)
[10:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2405 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indicator-transfe
[10:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/keeper, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/keeper, zesty/libertine, zes
[10:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir)
[10:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity-api). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[10:45] <Mirv> nice :)
[10:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Proposed pocket (zesty/platform-api, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity8). Release pocket (xenial/platform-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity8)
[11:22] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can you please re-run https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2504/+build/12034673 ?
[11:23] <sil2100> oSoMoN: done
[11:23] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[11:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Proposed pocket (zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Release pocket (xenial/platform-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/platform-api, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles)
[11:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2485 Release pocket
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 Preparing packages
[11:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2504 Failed to build (xenial/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/webbrowser-app)
[11:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[11:53] <oSoMoN> trainguards: some webbrowser-app unit tests that are run at package build time appear to consistently fail on xenial+overlay arm64 (see e.g. https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2504/+build/12034673), but they pass when I build on my M10, and the failures don’t provide any useful output, any idea where I should start investigating?
[11:53] <oSoMoN> note that the same tests pass on zesty arm64
[11:55] <sil2100> Mirv: could it be the arm64 kernel issue again? ^
[11:55] <sil2100> Since I guess there was a new xenial kernel released recently
[11:56]  * sil2100 doesn't remember how the arm64 issue looked like anymore
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 Pending binary packages
[12:16] <oSoMoN> sil2100, Mirv: is there a bug report for that arm64 kernel issue?
[12:17] <sil2100> oSoMoN: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1630906
[12:17] <sil2100> If it's that indeed, we might need to poke w_grant - don't want to ping him if it's not confirmed that it's what's causing the problem
[12:21] <oSoMoN> sil2100, that looks very much like it indeed, the three tests that are consistently failing are the ones that execute some QML code
[12:22] <oSoMoN> sil2100, is skipping the tests in debian/rules on arm64 an acceptable temporary workaround to get me going?
[12:25] <Mirv> sil2100: oSoMoN: right, a custom build would again be needed. if it doesn't happen on zesty, that's nice confirmation the new kernel config is supported by Qt 5.7.1
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 Successfully built
[12:30] <sil2100> Mirv, oSoMoN: let's poke wgrant in that case
[12:30] <sil2100> wgrant: hello! It seems a new xenial kernel has popped up on the builders, could you re-apply the workaround for arm64 again? :)
[12:31] <sil2100> wgrant: thank you!
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/qtmir). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/messaging-app). Pending binary packages (xenial/address-book-service). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-i
[12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Proposed pocket (zesty/unity8). Release pocket (xenial/platform-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/platform-api, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles)
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Preparing packages
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 zesty/unity-api: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/unity-api/handle-null-quietly
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Preparing packages
[13:03] <Mirv> sil2100: oSoMoN: the needed patches should eventually be in Qt 5.6.3. however in my backporting attempts before something always blew up with QML (when running on the workarounded kernel), so I hope the upstream patch set is something really solid by the time 5.6.3 is out.
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh renato, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2451 Needs rebuild due to new commits (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/dialer-app, vivid/messaging-framework, vivid/mfw-plugin-irc, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings)
[13:03] <Mirv> I could try out on top of 5.6.2 however, maybe it'd be easier set of patches than on top of 5.6.1
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/address-book-app, zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-service, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Merging branches
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Ready to build
[13:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Preparing packages
[13:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 zesty/unity-api: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/unity-api/handle-null-quietly
[13:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Preparing packages
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2405 Preparing packages
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity-api). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[13:22] <Saviq> kenvandine, did you actually do anything to land 2415 or is bileto confused https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/2415/finalize/1/ ?
[13:22] <kenvandine> i kicked a finalize once i knew britney was happy with it
[13:22] <kenvandine> it shows it landed cleanly
[13:22] <Saviq> yeah it did, was just surprised to see your name there :)
[13:22] <kenvandine> needed to get 2405 rebuilt and back to qa quickly
[13:23] <kenvandine> lol
[13:23] <kenvandine> 2405 was under testing when 2415 landed :/
[13:23] <kenvandine> so needed unity8 and qtmir rebuilds
[13:23] <Saviq> oops, sry
[13:24] <kenvandine> no worries
[13:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session)
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Uploading build (zesty/unity-api)
[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Preparing packages
[13:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/keeper, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub
[13:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[13:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Currently building (zesty/address-book-app). Failed to build (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/messaging-app, zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-service, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity-api)
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2405 Currently building (zesty/unity8). Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indic
[13:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[14:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2506 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Successfully built (zesty/unity-api)
[14:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Preparing packages
[14:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Preparing packages
[14:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/messaging-app). Pending binary packages (zesty/address-book-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-service, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-i
[14:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session)
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Bad merges (zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtubuntu-print, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-settings-components). Pending binary packages (xenial/qtubuntu-print). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components)
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bfiller kalikiana, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2478 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit)
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity-api). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2500 Publishing packages
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-service, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/unity8)
[14:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2405 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/libertine, zesty/pay-service, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/ubun
[14:53] <Saviq> Mirv, re bug #1630906 - you said it's coming to 5.6, would it maybe be distro-patchable now?
[14:56] <kenvandine> Mirv, it would be nice to get it into the xenial overlay
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Bad merges (zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtubuntu-print, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-settings-components). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components)
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2457 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2500 UNAPPROVED queue
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service, zesty/telepathy-ofono, zesty/telephony-service). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/history-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, xenial/telepathy-mission-control-5, xenial/telepathy-ofono, zesty/empathy, zesty/telepathy-mission-control-5)
[15:13] <Mirv> Saviq: like I said here earlier, my previous attempts of backporting the fixes resulted in various QML errors on the workarounded kernel, so it was not that easy. maybe it would be easier on top of 5.6.2 though compared to on top of 5.6.1, but only 5.6.3 will have the patches by upstream
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Preparing packages
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[15:20] <Saviq> Mirv, ack
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 zesty/messaging-app: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/messaging-app/disconnect-on-exit-favorite-channels
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2495 Preparing packages
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2405 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/libertine, zesty/pay-service, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/ubun
[15:41] <kenvandine> wgrant, did you see sil2100's request to push the modified kernel to the arm64 builders?
[15:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-service, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/history-service, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/history-service, zesty/telepathy-ofono, zesty/telephony-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/telepathy-mission-control-5, xenial/telepathy-ofono, zesty/empathy, zesty/telepathy-mission-control-5)
[15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2495 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub). Pending binary packages (zesty/content-hub)
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 QA Signoff: Approved
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Ready to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zest
[16:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 zesty/qtmir: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/byeSessionManager
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 Publishing packages
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Preparing packages
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 zesty/unity8: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/no-touchscreen-no-tutorial
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 Proposed pocket (zesty/repowerd). Release pocket (xenial/repowerd)
[16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2507 Preparing packages
[16:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2495 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub). Successfully built (zesty/content-hub)
[16:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Bad merges (zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-settings-components). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtubuntu-print). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/qtubuntu-print)
[16:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2507 Pending binary packages
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/keeper, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/keeper, zesty/l
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity8). Ready to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2507 Successfully built
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Preparing packages
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Ready to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings,
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/keeper, xenial/libertine, xenial/pay-service, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-scope-click, zesty/content-hub, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/keeper, zesty/libertine, zesty/pay-service, zesty/qtmir
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alf__, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2505 Release pocket
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Dependency wait (xenial/content-hub, zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-settings-components). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtubuntu-print). Successfully built (xenial/qtubuntu-print)
[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2507 QA Signoff: Ready
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 zesty/qtmir: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtmir/miral-DisplayConfigurationStorage
[19:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[19:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2483 Preparing packages
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2483 Pending binary packages
[19:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Pending binary packages (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-s
[20:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2483 Successfully built
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touc
[20:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[21:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2483 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/cmake-extras). Successfully built (xenial/cmake-extras)
[21:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Currently building (zesty/unity8). Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu
[21:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touc
[22:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Preparing packages
[22:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2481 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-keyboard, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, zesty/indicator-keyboard, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/ubuntu-keyboard, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-touc


[12:54] <bill__> Hi - after upgrading from xenial to yakkety(sp) I get a boot error:symbol table not loaded - any idea how to fix ?
[12:54] <ikonia> depends what is not loading
[12:54] <ikonia> I suspect it will be because of a conflict
[12:56] <bill__> ikonia, I did some googling and it seems it is related to grub 2 - and is a know issue I believe - how would I troubleshoot that
[12:57] <ikonia> if it's a known issue, what do they suggest
[12:59] <bill__> ikonia, well that is a hotly contested subject - some say grub problem some say ubuntu issue with older packages so no resolution - but happens when you upgrade
[12:59] <bill__> just came here on the chance someone might know
[12:59] <ikonia> what stage does it get to in the boot process
[13:00] <bill__> happens just after you select the drive to boot - I have 5 bootable drives including 2 windows - mint - 2 ubuntu
[13:01] <ikonia> are you %101 the grub you are booting is supplied by ubuntu
[13:01] <ikonia> rather than one of the other distros
[13:02] <bill__> yes - but I am booting the from the upgraded machine which was xenial and is now yakkety so that grub is probably different
[13:02] <ikonia> how are you %101 sure that grub on that drive is the one from ubuntu as you have many distros with many grub installs
[13:03] <bill__> yes my bios boot order is set to boot off the upgraded drive
[13:03] <ikonia> I'm not asking you what your bios is booting, I'm asking how can you be certain that grub on that drive is the grub installed by 16.10
[13:05] <bill__> that is the issue - when I upgraded I went from 16.04 to 16.10 - if grub was upgraded then it would be the grub from 16.10
[13:05] <ikonia> not what I'm asking you
[13:05] <bill__> but I am unsure of the grub version - how can I check
[13:05] <ikonia> you should have been certain of this before the upgrade
[13:05] <ikonia> as now it won't boot
[13:05] <ikonia> but right now you don't know what grub version is on it, and from what install
[13:06] <bill__> it does boot - just has this error message - anyway - bye
[13:06] <ikonia> the fist point of call for me would be to use some live media to re-apply grub from 16.10 to the right boot sector
[13:20] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[13:21] <ThePendulum> I'm wondering if I should expect much trouble upgrading from the 16.10 beta 2 to the official release
[13:21] <ThePendulum> don't really have an awful lot to do today and figured I'd reorganize my disks and pop on some fresh installs, but apparently I'm a week too early for 16.10
[13:48] <krytarik> !daily | ThePendulum
[18:12] <ThePendulum> urf, I was hoping to start using 16.10 after not being able to upgrade to 16.04 because of some input timing issue with my Dell monitors
[18:12] <ThePendulum> but the issue is still there :(
[18:28] <dn5> hello
[18:28] <dn5> may I ask why official ubuntu for vagrant doesnt have SocketCAN module integrated?
[18:28] <dn5> I can't bring vcan up
[18:28] <dn5> only can and can_raw


[06:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <MooDoo> hello all
[07:09] <elfy> morning MooDoo
[07:10] <dpm> good morning all
[07:14] <elfy> hi dpm :)
[07:15] <dpm> morning elfy
[07:21] <dholbach> hi MooDoo, hi dpm
[07:23] <dpm> hey dholbach, had a nice day off yesterday?
[07:29] <dholbach> yes, thanks a lot - how was yours?
[07:35] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[07:38] <popey> Morning
[07:39] <dpm> dholbach, good, we went for a Weinwanderung around Stuttgart, despite the forecasts we had nice weather, so all good :)
[07:39] <dpm> morning davidcalle and popey
[07:40] <dholbach> very nice
[08:42] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:48] <silverlion> aloha madame
[08:48] <silverlion> but I'm about to head out for office :(
[08:49] <silverlion> have a nice $daytime everyone!
[09:24] <popey> Having been ill for a couple of days (and missing czajkowski co-working day on Wednesday) I haven't actually left the house all week.
[09:24] <popey> Need to find somewhere nearby with wifi and work there.
[09:24] <Tm_T> moin
[09:25] <Tm_T> I'm a sucker, I mobile-work with the shared data from a phone
[09:26] <Tm_T> maybe try working while sitting in a park next week
[09:26] <popey> I know there's a park in a nearby Town where the bandstand has free wifi
[09:26] <popey> and McDonalds and the local pub have wifi.
[09:27] <davidcalle> dpm, the scopes templates changed are finished, I've just tried to run an existing tutorial on them. It's not that bad, they will all need some rewriting and new code, that should take me ~two days. The merge won't happen until they are ready. Also, there is a new testing framework for scopes (python-harness) used with templates, not sure if ballons tutorials are covering it, but he'll probably need to have a look as well.
[09:27] <davidcalle> popey, McDonalds or local pub? Tough choice :p
[09:28] <popey> Well we don't all have haute cuisine french restaurants nearby :)
[09:28] <popey> "Le Big Mac"
[09:29] <dpm> davidcalle, great, thanks. Yeah balloons is working on the scopes testing tutorials and is aware of python-harness afaik, but it'd be good if you two could touch base on the template changes
[09:29] <davidcalle> popey, hehe
[09:29] <davidcalle> dpm, ok
[09:31] <davidcalle> dpm, btw, css fixes have landed for the API website https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Pickers.Dialer/
[09:33] <dpm> davidcalle, and the Unity docs look much nicer too -> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/sdk-14.10/index/ - good work!
[09:33] <davidcalle> Although... I feel like the general css for API docs would still need some webteam design input. Not sure if it's us not using guidelines to their full potential or just their CSS guidelines being like that, but it feels "muddy".
[09:34] <davidcalle> Indeed, that was an awesome contribution :)
[09:34] <dpm> davidcalle, I think it's a bit challenging to have a unified markup for all the doc formats we support (doxygen, sphinx, qdoc, ...), but mhall119 would have more input on that
[09:35] <davidcalle> dpm, it's not that, probably just the color scheme not agreeing with me :)
[09:35] <dpm> :)
[09:44] <popey> \o/ found somewhere! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Retro-Coffee-Shop-Ltd/194619254003305
[09:44] <popey> right next to the best butcher in town
[09:47] <elfy> will they cook you a steak though?
[09:50] <MooDoo> hmmmmm steak
[10:08] <popey> \o/ https://twitter.com/Retro_Coffee/status/599153937971810304
[10:45] <popey> \o/ coffee
[10:49] <MooDoo> yay
[11:46] <czajkowski> popey: co working next week as you're better?
[11:54] <popey> maybe
[12:00] <czajkowski> dom tom and jon are on a ham weekend but I'm sure Dom would be up for it next week
[12:00] <czajkowski> Wednesdays do work well
[12:44] <mhall119> dpm: yeah, each doc source has it's own HTML markup around code snippets, we could style them to look the same as much as possible, but it'll be a lot of work
[12:48] <davidcalle> Hi dholbach, just seen your email
[12:50] <davidcalle> dholbach, I think that's a very needed status page, even without translations in mind, as a way to have an overview of recently updated pages.
[12:55] <dholbach> yes :)
[14:39] <dpm> dholbach, popey, davidcalle, mhall119, balloons, my current call might be running over
[14:39] <dholbach> dpm, pretend your network connection doesn't work too well!
[14:40] <dholbach> come on, you like us better than whoever you're talking to now
[14:44] <popey> well...
[14:53] <dpm> <§
[14:53] <dpm> <3
[15:01] <dholbach> dpm, do you still need some more time=?
[15:01] <dpm> go for it
[15:01] <dpm> will be back in a few mins
[15:04] <davidcalle> balloons, dholbach, mhall119, popey, who wants to start?
[15:04] <balloons> I can
[15:04] <balloons> DONE: qml template updates, in review. DOING: HTML5 updates, bug reporting / feedback for app developers BLOCKED: still awaiting landings for new docs for scopes and AP helpers. Still awaiting word from akiva
[15:06] <dholbach> balloons, what kind of html5 updates? is this for html5 testing developer docs?
[15:06] <balloons> dholbach, bah yes..
[15:06] <balloons> Still working on finishing them.. fingers crossed for this afternoon
[15:07] <dholbach> awesome :)
[15:07] <dholbach> DONE:
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: 0.3 release (https://launchpad.net/help-app/+milestone/0.3)
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: Daniel McGuire finished first mockups, sending to list soon
[15:07] <dholbach>  - dev site: discussion with dpm about maintenance of Chinese translation
[15:07] <dholbach>  - dev site: bit of bug triage
[15:07] <dholbach>  - snappy: community planning with rsalveti, ogra and dpm
[15:07] <dholbach>  - (misc) public holiday in Germany yesterday
[15:07] <dholbach> STARTED:
[15:07] <dholbach> - dev site: updated spreadsheet to track Chinese translation update
[15:07] <dholbach> NEXT:
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: pad.lv/1433210 (reenable .link-cta-ubuntu)
[15:07] <dholbach>  - china: more China dev plans discussions
[15:07] <dholbach> BLOCKED:
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: part 1 of 1446493 (set up site for content negotiation)
[15:07] <dholbach>    (with IS, RT#79340)
[15:08] <dholbach> ..
[15:08] <mhall119> dholbach putting us all to shame again
[15:08] <davidcalle> dholbach, about the chinese translation, who is going to do it?
[15:08] <popey> yeah
[15:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, we still have to figure this out
[15:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm just preparing the discussion - happy to CC you
[15:09] <davidcalle> dholbach, uh no :p
[15:09] <dholbach> all right :)
[15:09] <davidcalle> Kidding, happy to be part of it
[15:09] <dholbach> <3
[15:10] <dholbach> dpm, here's a snippet I saw slangasek use for their team meetings, adapted to ours... for next time:       $ echo $(shuf -e balloons davidcalle dholbach dpm mhall119)          :)
[15:11] <davidcalle> (I want bash support on IRC)
[15:11] <dholbach> ok, I'm done
[15:11] <dholbach> anyone else?
[15:11] <mhall119> what could possibly go wrong
[15:11] <mhall119> I'll go next
[15:11] <mhall119> DONE:
[15:12] <mhall119> Deployed devportal update with CSS fixed (with davidcalle)
[15:12] <mhall119> so now two of us know how to do that :)
[15:12] <mhall119> Fixed the importer to work properly with API docs from1 15.04, have an MP ready to land to enable that
[15:13] <mhall119> worked with popey to get the new ubuntu podcast website up and plan for the first episode
[15:13] <mhall119> NEXT:
[15:13] <mhall119> udpate deployment instructions for devportal to clarify the process for webops
[15:14] <mhall119> finish reviewing djangosnippets project for integration with the devportal
[15:14] <dholbach> woo!
[15:14] <davidcalle> NICE
[15:14] <mhall119> prepare for importing ubuntu-sdi-15.10-dev1 API docs that will be in Wily
[15:14] <mhall119> that's all for me
[15:15] <mhall119> no blockers
[15:15] <mhall119> dpm: I do need to follow up with you about a CSS fix you have in an MP
[15:15] <mhall119> I remember discussing a change to it with you a while back, but don't recall what the change was or if it was made
[15:16] <mhall119> that's the only reason it wasn't included in the last deployment
[15:16] <balloons> lol dholbach, bash support :-) how about just going for it and including python?
[15:17] <mhall119> or use irssi and do it in perl, like a *real* programmer
[15:18] <davidcalle> Popey, want to go?
[15:18] <popey> ya
[15:18] <popey> DONE:  - Core apps manual & battery testing on Arale.  - Feedback to didrocks for developer advocacy.   - Setup ubuntu engineering podcast website - Pre-Announce ubuntu engineering podcast internally - Worked with Amrisha on surveys
[15:18] <popey> DOING: Docviewer & Calendar code reviews.
[15:18] <popey> BLOCKED: None (other than not having enough developers)
[15:18] <popey> NEXT: Reminders app rename and other reviews.

[15:19] <dholbach> app rename?
[15:20] <dholbach> and for which app are you looking for developers?
[15:20] <popey> Renaming Reminders to "Notes"
[15:21] <popey> We wanted to land latest updates first
[15:21] <popey> then we're renaming
[15:21] <popey> but we're only renaming the user facing parts, not the click package or other bits
[15:21] <popey> Calendar could do with more devs, kunal is basically alone on that
[15:22] <popey> renato is working on backend sync stuff, but for the app itself, its kunal
[15:22] <popey> Docviewer also could use help.
[15:22]  * popey feels a blog post coming
[15:22] <dholbach> yeah, that sounds like a good idea :)
[15:23] <dholbach> I wonder apart from our usual social media targets we could spread something like that
[15:24] <popey> I have a long standing todo which is "Brainstorm where to dig up new developers"
[15:24] <popey> part of my conversation with didrocks mentioned above covered this :)
[15:24] <popey> more on that another day
[15:24] <dholbach> ahh, nice
[15:24]  * dholbach hugs popey
[15:25]  * davidcalle goes
[15:25] <davidcalle> DONE:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Tested all published scopes tutorials against new SDK templates
[15:25] <davidcalle> - drafted text/code updates for these tutorials
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Snappy typos/rewording
[15:25] <davidcalle> DOING:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Bundling libs in click article (gathered working examples and picked sdk team brains)
[15:25] <davidcalle> NEXT:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Finish new platform page
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Finish i18n general tutorial (more looking into apps sources to see what people need)
[15:25] <davidcalle> BLOCKED:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - New scopes tutorials
[15:26] <dholbach> are there lots of changes scope authors will have to apply to their current scopes?
[15:26] <dholbach> bundlings-libs: nice!
[15:26] <davidcalle> balloons, new SDK templates use python-harness for scopes, you might want to have a look at them next week
[15:27] <balloons> davidcalle, yes ty.. I've been waiting for the templates to update before writing the new tutorial.. I've been watching marcus's branch
[15:27] <davidcalle> dholbach, nope, the API hasn't moved, but the API team is simplifying all scopes templates
[15:27] <dholbach> ah, brilliant
[15:27] <balloons> davidcalle, also, I pushed to get the new API documented so we could of course put it on d.u.c :-)
[15:28] <davidcalle> balloons, yup :-)
[15:28] <mhall119> \o/
[15:28] <davidcalle> That's it for me
[15:28]  * mhall119 never thought he would be excited over API docs
[15:29] <balloons> davidcalle, so we'll be in touch once the template changes are in to make sure the new tutorials go up nicely
[15:30] <davidcalle> balloons, yes, won't these changes affect existing tutorials? (as in: are they based on sdk templates?)
[15:30] <dholbach> dpm, around now?
[15:30] <balloons> davidcalle, yes ofc they will. But the current tutorials for testing only cover unit, not functional (which is where most of the changes lie)
[15:30] <balloons> so a bit less of changes for me than you :p
[15:33] <dpm> dholbach, I am now
[15:33] <dholbach> ok
[15:33] <dpm> thanks guys for running the standup
[15:34] <davidcalle> balloons, yeah, but it's putting me back in a C++ mindset and I like to think of it as a good thing... (glass half-full, but full of awful things :p)
[15:34] <popey> :)
[15:34]  * popey shrugs, french style
[15:35] <davidcalle> popey, I like that new style of yours!
[15:36] <dholbach> 2015 - année de la nouvelle langue du linux desktop
[15:37]  * popey lights a gauloise and taps his beret
[15:37] <balloons> davidcalle, J'aime ton style
[15:38]  * davidcalle celebrates another victory for la France
[15:39] <dholbach> . o O { allons enfants de la patriiihiie ... ]
[15:40] <davidcalle> <Something something baguette>
[15:42] <dholbach> I don't know... dpm, are we done with the meeting now?
[15:42] <dpm> dholbach, I'd say so
[15:42] <dholbach> ok...
[15:42] <dpm> on my side, it's been workshop preparation, and I'm not done yet for today
[15:43] <davidcalle> dpm, good luck, will you be there in Amsterdam?
[15:43] <dpm> davidcalle, yeah, Monday and Tuesday
[15:44] <davidcalle> dpm, that's a great city, enjoy!
[15:44] <popey> dpm: will you be afk mon-tue?
[15:45] <dpm> popey, mostly yes, but will be reading e-mail. I'll try to make it to the team call on Monday, and if I can't make it to the 1:1s, I'll rearrange them
[15:45] <popey> kk
[16:39] <popey> right, need to go and spend some time afk. have a great weekend all!
[17:39] <dpm> have a great weekend all!


[00:58] <Afon_> hello
[00:59] <Afon_> Hi I am trying to register the key of launchpad. there is a step to send the pub ID to keyserver.ubuntu.com.
[00:59] <Afon_> I have tried a few times. it shows: gpg: keyserver timed out
[00:59] <Afon_> gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error
[00:59] <Afon_> Could anyone suggest what to do? thank you.
[06:41] <Ddorda> hey, i tried to register a lp-l10n team few weeks ago and still no answer, can someone check this?
[06:42] <jtv> Ddorda: team creation should be instantaneous.
[06:42] <jtv> Or are you talking about adding a translation team to the Launchpad translation group?
[06:43] <Ddorda> for now LP and some lp-l10n dependent projects are translated with google translate and this is BAD, i really want to fix this out, but can't.
[06:43] <Ddorda> jtv: indeed
[06:43] <jtv> Ddorda: LP is not translated at all.
[06:43] <jtv> Are you talking about people using Google to get translated versions of the UI?  That's scary.
[06:44] <Ddorda> jtv: yes, and they use lp-l10n dependent, so i can't fix it until the team will be approved
[06:45] <jtv> Ddorda: I'm having trouble understanding this part: "they use lp-l10n dependent"
[06:45] <jtv> Also, what team exactly are we talking about & where did you propose it?
[06:45] <Ddorda> jtv: sec i'll link you
[06:45] <jtv> thanks
[06:52] <Ddorda> found it! minute :)
[06:52] <Ddorda> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/launchpad-translators
[06:52] <Ddorda> check the end of the page
[06:55] <Ddorda> jtv: so to register the team i need to send a mail to the Launchpad Translators Coordinators, which i did
[06:55] <Ddorda> and got no answer for a long while now...
[07:07] <jtv> Ddorda: and what was the team?
[07:07] <Ddorda> lp-l10n-he
[07:27] <jtv> Ddorda: I don't think I've seen your message anywhere.  More Europeans are coming online around now.  I'll have a look around to see if anyone knows more.
[07:27] <Ddorda> jtv: odd, i'm 100% sure i've sent one =\
[07:28] <jtv> Ddorda: but it's not a 100% reliable medium.  I'm sometimes tempted to discard all my email and claim a 100% spam recognition rate with only 1% or so false positives.
[07:28] <Ddorda> jtv: well i don't blame anyone :)
[07:29]  * jtv breathes sigh of relief  :)
[07:29] <Ddorda> i just want us to be approved to fix all the mess :D
[07:29] <jtv> Yes, that sounds like a worthy goal.  :)  The people I'm hoping to ask aren't online yet, but should be soon.
[07:36] <jtv> hi dpm!
[07:36] <dpm> hey jtv!
[07:37] <jtv> dpm: I'm just talking to Ddorda here.  Did you see the emailed proposal to include lp-l10n-he in the LP translation group?
[07:38] <dpm> dpm, ah, yeah, that was a few days ago. Ddorda, sorry I haven't replied. Let me look at it now...
[07:38] <Ddorda> few days ago?
[07:39] <Ddorda> okay, okay, i won't even start :P
[07:39] <jtv> Ddorda: remember what I said about email?  dpm probably gets a lot more.  :)
[07:41] <Ddorda> jtv: i guess so :D
[07:44] <dpm> Ddorda, are these your translation guidelines? -> http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/gezer/?q=rules
[07:44] <Ddorda> dpm: indeed
[07:47] <dpm> Ddorda, ok, added them as the guidelines and added the Hebrew team to the Launchpad Translators group. I see there is only one member, so you might want to contact other translators to join. It might be interesting to contact the Hebrew Ubuntu translators as a group of people already experienced in translations. In any case, welcome to the LP translators group and happy translating! :)
[07:47] <Ddorda> dpm: i'm one of the organizers of Ubuntu-l10n-he
[07:48] <Ddorda> dpm: and there's only me in the team as i didn't want people to join and wait
[07:48] <Ddorda> i'll make sure people join right away!
[07:48] <dpm> Ddorda, sounds good, then :)
[07:50] <Ddorda> dpm: thanks a lot :)
[07:51] <dpm> Ddorda, no worries, and sorry for the delay.
[07:51] <Ddorda> dpm: it's okay, i just thought it didn't get to you
[07:54] <dpm> Ddorda, it did indeed, the e-mail got to all LP translations coordinators, it's only that no one had had time to look into it yet. If there is any further issues requiring our attention and you find there is no response, please feel free to ping me directly. I'm usually here, in #ubuntu-translators and #ubuntu-community-team
[07:57] <Ddorda> dpm: okay :)
[07:57] <Ddorda> thanks
[08:29]  * Theuni1 waves
[08:33] <jtv> Theuni1: are you waving because you need help?  Or just waving in general?  :)
[08:35] <Theuni1> Just in general. I'm reading up on managing meetings with Launchpad. In the Zope community we started doing weekly meetings on IRC and we've been dealing with text files for managing the minutes and the agenda for quite a while but I find it to become unwieldy. I'm pondering using blueprints with sprints for that, but I need to figure out which project/project group to assign them to.
[08:35] <jtv> Depends on which project they're for, I guess.  :)
[08:36] <Theuni1> it's pretty independent :)
[08:36] <Theuni1> I kinda wish for a hierarchical project group structure, but then again the UI is complex already ;)
[08:36] <Theuni1> and a hierarchy wouldn't fit all of our cases anyway
[08:38] <Theuni1> we already have a "meta" project "zopetoolkit-project" in addition to the project group "zopetoolkit" itself, but that holds all the release engineering and over-arching technical issues
[08:38] <Theuni1> i'm pondering to create another meta project "zope-orga" which could hold organisational issues
[08:39] <jtv> Theuni1: if you try to break things down too much, you may end up making things harder than needed.  Consider naming or tagging conventions as a way to maintain order.
[08:39] <Theuni1> hmm
[08:39] <Theuni1> right.
[08:39]  * Theuni1 thinks
[08:40] <Theuni1> then again blueprints don't have tags
[08:40] <Theuni1> can i assign bugs to sprints?
[08:41] <Theuni1> doesn't look like it
[08:47] <jtv> Theuni1: I'm not sure but I think the Ubuntu folks use milestones for those.
[08:47] <Theuni1> hmmm
[09:09] <Theuni1> hmm
[09:09] <Theuni1> jtv: it looks like the basic sprint data can't be edited after creation?
[09:12] <jtv> Theuni1: I've never done that tbh... the Launchpad people who would be best able to help with this are all in the US, so this may be something to ask again later in the day (or much earlier, depending).  But dpm or other ubuntu folks would know a thing or two.
[09:12] <Theuni1> sure
[09:12] <Theuni1> I'll stick around. :)
[10:03] <Mez> where would I find instructions on setting up a local copy of LP?
[10:04] <Mez> https://dev.launchpad.net/Running <--
[10:04] <Mez> *sigh*
[10:12] <maxb> sigh?
[10:13] <Mez> yeah, cause I search and search, then, as soon as I ask, I find it myself
[10:13] <nigelb> maxb: I guess (s)he realized that "search and you shall find" :D
[10:13] <maxb> :)
[10:13] <Mez> though to be honest, not too sure if that's what I want :D
[10:13] <Mez> I remember a script that did the full install for you, etc etc
[10:13] <jtv> Mez: that's on the Getting page IIRC
[10:14] <maxb> rocketfuel-setup?
[10:14] <Mez> hmmles ....
[10:14] <jtv> See the "Get the source code" link on the front page.
[10:15] <Mez> maybe it's just the way LP works - but there's a lot of "make" commands to be run
[10:15] <Mez> for general usage
[10:15] <jtv> make ; make run
[10:15] <jtv> or if you want to enable a bunch of extra services, "make ; make run_all"
[10:16] <Mez> make sync_branches
[10:16] <jtv> That's pretty specialized, I think.  You don't need it just to get an LP running.
[10:16] <Mez> I actually just want the codehosting bit to be honest ;)
[10:17] <wgrant> Most of the Makefile targets are just shortcuts that start up a few LP bits and pieces, run a cronscript here and there...
[10:17] <jtv> Ah!
[10:17] <Mez> though, I doubt it'll fix the retardedness of some of the people here....
[10:17] <Mez> they'll still try and check in from the same user account
[10:18] <Mez> "lets all log into the box and develop using the same username"
[10:27] <spiv> Deploying Launchpad's codehosting would be overkill for most places, I'd think.
[10:28] <spiv> Compared to e.g. SSH keys restricted to running bzr on a subdirectory via the bzr_access script in contrib/.
[10:29] <spiv> There is a bit of middle-ground between those two that isn't hugely well catered for, though.
[10:29] <wgrant> I've occasionally been tempted to rip Codehosting out and stick it in front of a simpler DB.
[10:30] <wgrant> It'd be very handy.
[10:46] <Mez> wgrant: do it :D
[10:46] <Mez> spiv: possibly overkill, but it'd work nicely...
[10:47] <Mez> The main issue we have at the moment is that 1) people are all using the same login (so all the permissions are screwed) and 2) the permissions are screwed, even with sticky bit and chmod g+rw on a cron
[12:28] <piju> hello
[12:29] <piju> i have already deleted all of my PPA
[12:29] <piju> why i still cant change my user name for lauchpad ?
[12:32] <maxb> PPA 'deletion' doesn't really delete them, just hides them quite well
[12:33] <bigjools> piju: you need to wait 10 minutes
[12:33] <bigjools> then you will be able to rename
[12:33] <piju> bigjools, you again ? thanks buddy
[12:33] <maxb> oh, that got fixed :-)
[12:33]  * bigjools is here to serve
[12:33] <piju> you are like robot. never sleep
[12:34] <bigjools> my wife says the same thing
[12:34] <piju> bigjools, all PPAs are turning to grey
[12:34] <piju> need to wait for 10minutes ?
[12:36] <piju> This user has an active PPA with packages published and may not be renamed.
[12:36] <bigjools> piju: keep trying, it'll work soon
[12:36] <bigjools> which PPA?
[12:36] <piju> bigjools, all
[12:36] <piju> https://launchpad.net/~mypiju/
[12:36] <piju> i want to change from mypiju to piju
[12:37] <bigjools> piju: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mypiju/+archive/psk31lx-9w2pju is disabled, not deleted
[12:38] <piju> wait
[12:38] <bigjools> the other PPAs have gone
[12:39] <piju> bigjools, ok done
[12:39] <piju> all PPA are deleted!
[12:39] <bigjools> piju: ok wait a minute or two
[12:39] <bigjools> piju: when http://ppa.launchpad.net/mypiju/ is empty, you can rename
[12:43] <piju> thanks bigjools
[13:04] <mtaylor> soren: hey- I have to be on a plane during the DMB meeting today
[13:04] <soren> mtaylor: :(
[13:05] <mtaylor> soren: yeah. not happy about that :(
[13:11] <mtaylor> soren: ooh! nevermind...
[13:13] <soren> mtaylor: Heh :)
[14:33] <cakofony> Is there any way to get the "uses launchpad for" information out of the api (launchpadlib)?
[14:51] <nigelb> cakofony: can you explain further?
[14:53] <cakofony> On project pages, it says "uses launchpad for:" and then lists things such as answers, bugs, development etc
[14:53] <cakofony> I was wondering if I could get that information from the api
[14:55] <nigelb> cakofony: hm, I think not, but you can always ask in #launchpad-dev to confirm
[14:55] <cakofony> nigelb: Alright, thanks!
[15:07] <DeeJay1> hi, I think I have borked samarium, one thing is still building (for 3 hours now) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~deejay1/+recipe/daily/+build/60
[15:10] <purvesh> can some one help me to register on wiki.ubuntu.com
[15:10] <nigelb> purvesh: register on LP and then try to login to wiki using your open ID
[15:12] <purvesh> nigelb, ya i had tried but m getting one error so that i cant register on wiki...
[15:12] <purvesh> nigelb, can i show u error if u dont mind
[15:13] <nigelb> sure
[15:13] <nigelb> purvesh: wait
[15:13] <nigelb> your LP time zone is set to Asia/Kolkata?
[15:13] <nigelb> if so, change to some other zone and try again
[15:13] <purvesh> nigelb, ya
[15:13] <purvesh> nigelb, ok .... i ll try wt a sec
[15:14] <nigelb> its a known bug, change your TZ to some other TZ, something like UTC
[15:14] <jaalto> Is it possible to subscribe to announcements of some "product"; similar to freshement.net ?
[15:16] <nigelb> jaalto: if you're looking for one particular project, you can subscribe to 'Announcements' section via RSS
[15:17] <jaalto> nigelb: I'm more looking for email messages, like freshmenta.net sends. Is this available?
[15:17] <nigelb> jaalto: not that I know of, but I may be wrong too :)
[15:18] <nigelb> jaalto: to give you an example, you can see the ubuntu rss feeds http://feeds.launchpad.net/ubuntu/announcements.atom
[15:19] <jaalto> nigelb: Yup, but that requires browser. I'm packaging software and I'd like to get announcements via email when new "announcement" is put in launchpad. Too bad if this feature is not available
[15:20]  * nigelb isn't sure if that feature is available
[15:21] <jcastro> deryck: ping a ling sir
[15:22] <nigelb> morning jcastro :)
[15:22] <nigelb> did you see that debian derivates front desk is now open? :)
[15:25] <jcastro> I saw!
[15:26] <deryck> jcastro, hi.  on call.  available shortly.
[15:26] <jcastro> no worries, just ping me whenevs
[15:26] <nigelb> jcastro: I'm hugely grateful for zack, he's very friendly :)
[15:59] <exarkun> I just created a new milestone, and the result seems to be that https://launchpad.net/pyopenssl/main now has two "pyOpenSSL 0.9" versions listed.
[17:39] <JoshBrown> Can someone explain to me how branch merging works? I've been merging branches in a small project, but I'm not sure if I've been doing it the 'right' way.
[17:54] <abhi_nav> if some one submits a solution to a bug problem with new code then is it reliable?
[17:55] <abhi_nav> ??
[17:56] <abhi_nav> anyone here?
[17:57] <abhi_nav> :(
[19:08] <maxb> JoshBrown: Hi. If your question is purely Bazaar-related, you might find #bzr has more people that can help.
[19:08] <maxb> Otherwise, clarify what it is you want help with
[19:10] <JoshBrown> maxb: I want to know stuff like 'Do I copy the entire branch content, or just the file I'm going to modify?'
[19:11] <exarkun> JoshBrown: That's probably purely bzr related
[19:11] <exarkun> JoshBrown: in general you can only branch everything, though.  it's not like svn where all your branches live inside the same hierarchy.
[19:13] <maxb> JoshBrown: I'm pretty confused - I don't understand what you think you'd be copying
[19:16] <JoshBrown> Say I want to modify a file in a projects's bazaar branch - how do I do it?
[19:18] <maxb> You just modify it
[19:47] <JoshBrown> maxb: I can't, you have to make a new branch and then merge into it.
[19:48] <maxb> huh?
[19:48] <maxb> I'm sorry, you are going to have to describe what the problem you are having is in more detail.
[19:48] <maxb> And doing it on #bzr may get you more answers.
[19:49] <JoshBrown> maxb: Well I can't just push my changes directly to the main branch?
[19:49] <exarkun> Why not?
[19:49] <maxb> If you have access to do so, you can
[19:49] <maxb> And if you don't, I'm still not understanding where you feel stuck
[19:49] <JoshBrown> maxb: This isn't a bazaar issue, I know exactly how to use bazaar, I just don't know how Bazaar integrates with Launchpad.
[19:50] <maxb> Launchpad hosts Bazaar branches and provides nice web-based ways to browse and organize them. That's it.
[19:50] <JoshBrown> maxb: Well I could, but I'm supposed to submit a merge proposal so the project leader can decide if the changes are okay.
[19:50] <maxb> So, push your branch to Launchpad and create a merge proposal
[19:52] <JoshBrown> maxb: What command do I use to make my branch though? So far I've been using 'bzr new' - but I thought perhaps that isn't the 'right' way to do things..?
[19:52]  * maxb looks up what bzr new does
[19:52] <exarkun> 'bzr new'?
[19:53] <maxb> Apparently it's something funky from bzr-explorer
[19:54] <lifeless> JoshBrown: it doesn't matter how you make your branch - bzr new is fine
[19:54] <lifeless> JoshBrown: once you have it, you push it to launchpad
[19:54] <maxb> JoshBrown: See, now you're wandering back towards pure-bzr territory. I don't use 'bzr new' myself, but I don't see why it shouldn't be one of many valid ways to work
[19:55] <lifeless> JoshBrown: to lp:~$USER/$PROJECT/$BRANCHNAME
[19:55] <JoshBrown> maxb: What do you use?
[19:55] <maxb> Usually bzr init-repo and bzr branch
[19:55] <JoshBrown> lifeless: But do you copy the entire branch or just the files you're modifying?
[19:55] <lifeless> JoshBrown: I don't copy anything
[19:56] <lifeless> JoshBrown: I run 'bzr push lp:~my-username/my-projectname/mybranchname
[19:56] <lifeless> I'm sure bzr explorer has a push option in its GUI for you to use
[19:57] <JoshBrown> What I've been doing: Pull main branch, copy any files I plan on modifying to a new branch, modify the files, upload branch. I was just wondering if this is an efficient way to go about branching?
[19:58] <maxb> This "copy any files I plan on modifying to a new branch" sounds very wrong - why do you do that?
[19:59] <maxb> If you mean what I think you mean you are defeating pretty much the entire point of using bzr at all
[19:59] <JoshBrown> maxb: Exactly my point - it seems weird, but I don't know how else to go about it. Perhaps I should be using this 'bzr branch' command.
[20:00] <lifeless> JoshBrown: when you say copy any files
[20:00] <lifeless> JoshBrown: do you mean an operating system file copy, or some bzr command ?
[20:00] <JoshBrown> lifeless: Just a standard Unix cp
[20:01] <lifeless> ok
[20:01] <lifeless> you definitely want to use branch
[20:01] <lifeless> the init command, which I suspect 'new' is a wrapper for
[20:01] <lifeless> makes a brand new *project*
[20:01] <lifeless> you should only ever run it once per project.
[20:01] <lifeless> ever
[20:01] <lifeless> the 'branch' command makes new branches
[20:01] <lifeless> you should run it every time you want a new branch of an existing project.
[20:02] <JoshBrown> Ah.
[20:03] <JoshBrown> So I should be doing: Branch, modify, push, merge.
[20:03] <lifeless> yes
[20:03] <lifeless> with a commit between modify and push probably ;)
[20:05] <JoshBrown> lifeless: Yeh, that'd be a good idea =)
[21:46] <dtwood> I am trying to file a bug in krb5-auth-dialog, and I have filed the bug against '“krb5-auth-dialog” source package in Maverick', and another bug in GNOME bugzilla, but I do not have the option to link them, as there is no project for krb5-auth-dialog in launchpad. How can I link these?
[21:47] <dtwood> sorry if this is the wrong place to ask
[21:48] <JoshBrown> dtwood: Could you give us a link?
[21:49] <dtwood> JoshBrown: (should I always put the name of the person I'm talking to like this, I'm new to this?) yeah sure - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=krb5-auth-dialog
[21:52] <JoshBrown> In most IRC clients when you say someone's name (dtwood), it gives that user some kind of alert and highlights the message. So it's helpful to use names in most cases.
[21:54] <dtwood> JoshBrown: ah thanks, that makes sense
[21:57] <JoshBrown> dtwood: Looks like there is no upstream package, I think you should create one although I can't be 100% sure because I've never had this issue before.
[21:59] <JoshBrown> https://launchpad.net/projects/+new
[22:00] <dtwood> JoshBrown: I've created that at https://launchpad.net/krb5-auth-dialog, what should I do next?
[22:01] <JoshBrown> Wow, I just saw that pop up on Launchpad :P
[22:02] <dtwood> ok, where did you see that?
[22:02] <JoshBrown> dtwood: Click 'Also affects project', then enter the URL for your bugzilla bug.
[22:05] <dtwood> JoshBrown: ok, I presumed that it had to be linked to the GNOME bugzilla or similar
[22:05] <dtwood> JoshBrown: yep, that's linked now :) thanks
[22:06] <JoshBrown> Right, I'll be off now. If anything I said was wrong you can contact me at ~joshbrown - bye
[22:06] <JoshBrown> :)