[04:13] <Kilos> morning everybody
[05:23] <pavlushka> o/ all
[05:23] <pavlushka> Hi Kilos !
[05:24] <pavlushka> Hi inetpro !
[06:04] <anton_may> wazzup all
[06:14] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:17] <Kilos> hi anton_may thatgraemeguy
[06:17] <Kilos> anton_may is it you with the sore knee?
[06:19] <anton_may> ok, got the knee guard on.
[06:20] <anton_may> Some big news coming from Oracle, was waiting for the 1st to pass, but it looks legit --> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/01/microsoft_lures_oracles_linux_exec/
[06:26] <magespawn> good morning
[06:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[06:28] <anton_may> lo magespawn
[06:32] <Kilos> how do i find out what link i gave Maaz when telling him to tell mazal and cryterion and the link
[06:32] <Kilos> the link was meant for anton_may not cryterion
[06:32] <Kilos> about hips and knees anton_may
[06:38] <superfly> good evening Kilos
[06:38] <superfly> hi anton_may, magespawn, thatgraemeguy, pavlushka
[06:39] <thatgraemeguy> hi fly
[06:40] <Kilos> evening superfly
[06:41] <mazal> hi
[06:41] <Maaz> mazal: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell mazal http://src.easyhealthoptions.com/ego/dab21579-718e-4dd1-a318-d895284bd3f2/401863400/310694" 2 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes and 40 seconds ago
[06:41] <Kilos> anton_may ^^
[06:42] <Kilos> see if that link can help you
[06:42] <magespawn> Kilos: that was sneeky
[06:42] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:43] <Kilos> only way i could think to find the message
[06:43] <magespawn> indeed
[06:44] <Kilos> Maaz tell mazal http://src.easyhealthoptions.com/ego/dab21579-718e-4dd1-a318-d895284bd3f2/401863400/310694
[06:44] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[06:44] <Kilos> i wonder what the guys on the other channels think
[06:44] <Kilos> hehe
[06:56] <anton_may> thanks
[06:56] <anton_may> Lol ok will watch at home
[06:56] <Kilos> are you taking gelatine?
[06:56] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:57] <anton_may> not yet, haven't had time to go and stop at that shop
[06:57] <mazal> Hi all
[06:57] <anton_may> mazal
[06:57] <mazal> Yes
[06:58] <anton_may> good morning
[06:58] <anton_may> that'll be all
[06:58] <Kilos> huh
[06:58] <anton_may> mazal said hi, so I greated mazal by just saying "mazal"
[06:58] <mazal> Ah ok :)
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <anton_may> oi vey
[07:32] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[07:32] <inetpro> oh and hi pavlushka
[07:33] <Kilos> hi there inetpro
[07:33] <inetpro> and Kilos as well
[07:33] <Kilos> lol
[08:25] <inetpro> uh oh!
[08:27] <Kilos> what now?
[08:28] <Kilos> ai! he broke it again
[08:28]  * Kilos waits for hibana to appear
[08:35] <Kilos> wb inetpro what did you break
[08:37] <inetpro> Kilos: ty
[08:37] <inetpro> who's stealing my bits again
[08:37]  * inetpro getting lost in the ether
[08:52] <theblazehen> Hey Kilos, inetpro, others
[08:58] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[08:59] <theblazehen> How're you doing Kilos?
[08:59] <Kilos> fine thanks and you theblazehen ?
[08:59] <theblazehen> Pretty god ty
[08:59] <theblazehen> good*
[09:02] <Squirm> Morning
[09:02] <Kilos> wb Squirm
[09:02] <Squirm> How is everyone ?
[09:02] <Kilos> we still alive and you?
[09:02] <Squirm> Going well :)
[09:14] <superfly> o/
[09:16] <theblazehen> hey Squirm
[09:17] <Squirm> Am all moved in
[09:17] <Squirm> Sort of
[09:17] <Squirm> Mostly in boxes
[09:18] <thatgraemeguy> who was it that got their nagios alerting via telegram recently?
[09:19] <superfly> anton_may
[09:19] <Kilos> anton_may i think
[09:19] <Kilos> fly too fast
[09:22] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: Pretty sure you could just use some kind of webhook in nagios?
[09:23] <theblazehen> If it supports that
[09:23] <thatgraemeguy> it supports anything you can script really
[09:24] <thatgraemeguy> just wanted to know how painful it was to set up in general, want to look at doing it to replace sms alerts
[09:25] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: I got zenoss alerting to slack via a webhook, pretty much just need to create the json. Not sure about the nagios side, but I've messed around a bit with the telegram api a few months back, it's rather easy to use
[09:25] <thatgraemeguy> thanks
[09:25] <thatgraemeguy> there was someone in here not so long ago that actually did it, just wondered if they perhaps had tips
[09:26] <anton_may> it was me
[09:27] <thatgraemeguy> aha
[09:27] <thatgraemeguy> was it pretty straightforward?
[09:27] <thatgraemeguy> can you send nagios commands by replying?
[09:28] <superfly> thatgraemeguy: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmgycwv
[09:28] <anton_may> yip, installed the telegram-cli, registered a number, created a script for easy nagios command and then added the command in the cfg file
[09:29] <anton_may> i haven't gone that far yet re sending nagios commands via tg
[09:29] <thatgraemeguy> so you still need a cell number, hrmmm
[09:29] <anton_may> yes you do
[09:29] <anton_may> as you need to register
[09:30] <superfly> thatgraemeguy: if you create a bot you don't need a cell number
[09:31] <superfly> and there's a Python library
[09:34] <mazal> Morning again
[09:36] <magespawn> superfly: details?
[09:36] <thatgraemeguy> https://core.telegram.org/bots/faq
[09:36] <thatgraemeguy> https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-do-i-create-a-bot
[09:36] <thatgraemeguy> https://core.telegram.org/bots
[09:37] <magespawn> thanks that
[09:37] <magespawn> thatgraemeguy:
[09:52] <magespawn> chat later, on the road again
[09:55] <chesedo> morning all
[09:59] <theblazehen> hey chesedo
[09:59] <Kilos> hi chesedo
[10:00] <Kilos> you just made it by a minute
[10:03] <chesedo> 5mins...
[10:03] <chesedo> or 4mins and 32secs
[10:03] <chesedo> :P
[10:05] <Kilos> oh ya sorry was looking at blazes time
[10:05] <chesedo> np, how are you all?
[10:05] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[10:06] <chesedo> great ty
[10:23] <thatgraemeguy> Maaz: tell Cryterion https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=212858#p212858
[10:23] <Maaz> thatgraemeguy: Got it, I'll tell Cryterion on freenode
[11:09]  * mazal must find a new hobby
[11:17] <chesedo> lol mazal, what wrong with current one?
[11:24] <superfly> oooo, didn't see that VanessaE replied to me :-D
[12:19] <magespawn> hello
[12:21] <Kilos> hello yourself, see how you like it
[12:25] <magespawn> it is all good with me Kilos
[12:26] <Kilos> haha
[12:38] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:53] <magespawn> call me anything you like as long as it is not late for dinner
[14:33] <magespawn> chat later
[17:36] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:46] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[17:46]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:46] <Kilos> Maaz lots
[17:46] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[17:46] <Kilos> Maaz large
[17:46] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[17:47] <chesedo> Maaz: nee man, die ou soek n boer bekker :P
[17:47] <Maaz> chesedo: Sorry...
[17:48] <Kilos> lol
[17:49] <magespawn> good evening
[17:49] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:50] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[17:50] <Kilos> i slept all avy so you guys keep quiet
[17:50] <magespawn> whats up?
[17:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:50] <Kilos> not much, too tired
[17:50] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[17:50] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:50] <magespawn> see, we do think of you
[17:51] <Kilos> hahaha ty
[17:51] <magespawn> inetpro my AWS free tier is up on the 11th of this month
[17:52] <chesedo> Kilos: :x
[17:52] <Kilos> haha
[17:53] <Kilos> Cryterion that message from Maaz was for anton and mazal not you
[17:53] <Kilos> got my worn knees mixed up
[17:53] <Cryterion> huh?
[17:54] <Kilos> the link about knee and hip replacements
[17:54] <Cryterion> only had a message from thatgreameguy earlier about dreambuilder game on minetest
[17:54] <Cryterion> maaz hasn't sent me anything
[17:54] <Kilos> oh then i killed it by login in as mazal
[17:55] <Kilos> ok you are forgiven for not getting it
[17:55] <Cryterion> lol, np
[17:55] <Cryterion> just fix it :)
[17:55] <Kilos> i did
[17:55] <Cryterion> ok kwl
[17:56] <Kilos> i mistakenly sent it to mazal and you
[17:56] <Kilos> then remembered it was anton with messed up knee not you
[17:56] <Kilos> hehe
[17:56] <Cryterion> should've still gotten to me tough
[17:57] <Cryterion> though*
[17:57] <Kilos> oh
[17:57] <Cryterion> If you send to 2 people, both should get even though you cancelled mazal's out
[17:58] <Cryterion> Maaz: are you there?
[17:58] <Maaz> Cryterion: Excuse me?
[17:58] <Kilos> yes you are right
[17:58] <Cryterion> Maaz: do you have a message for me
[17:58] <Maaz> Cryterion: I already know stuff about do you
[17:58] <Kilos> i wonder what went wrong
[17:58] <Kilos> haha
[17:58] <Cryterion> Maaz: what do you know about me?
[17:58] <Maaz> Cryterion: I'm afraid I have no idea
[17:58] <Cryterion> ah
[17:59] <Kilos> your knees are fine hey
[17:59] <Cryterion> I'll log off and back on to see
[17:59] <Cryterion> Yes, mine are fine
[17:59] <Cryterion> brb
[18:00] <Cryterion> hmm, nothing from maaz
[18:00] <Kilos> you still showing ip
[18:00] <Cryterion> normally there's a pct if someone sends a msg
[18:00] <Kilos> did you put your irc password in
[18:00] <Cryterion> should be killed now, ip
[18:01] <Kilos> yes but it first shows then changes host
[18:01] <Kilos> should change host before logging in here
[18:01] <Cryterion> auto login seems to do that, your ip only hides once you identify
[18:03] <Kilos> watch mine
[18:04] <magespawn> mayb Maaz is a few bytes short of a full stick of ram
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:04] <Cryterion> lol
[18:04] <Cryterion> --> Kilos (~miles@ubuntu/member/kilos) has joined #ubuntu-za
[18:04] <Kilos> yes see
[18:05] <Kilos> must cloak you before joining channels
[18:05] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[18:05] <Cryterion> Xchat doesn't seem to let you complete login before joining channels :(
[18:06] <pavlushka> hey Kilos , you there?
[18:06] <Kilos> must do
[18:06] <Kilos> i used it before going kde
[18:06] <Kilos> yes i woke up pavlushka
[18:06] <Kilos> ai!
[18:07] <magespawn> i think there is a place in xchat where you can input your nick and password, might be wrong about that
[18:07] <Cryterion> I'll prob look at trying out another client later this week, xchat not really great
[18:08] <Cryterion> Yes you can magespawn, but it joins channels prior to NickServ auth
[18:08] <Kilos> Cryterion you need to put your password in server password and nickserv password blocks when editting
[18:08] <Kilos> i have xchat here too
[18:09] <magespawn> Cryterion: irssi for the win
[18:09] <Cryterion> mirc is better than xchat
[18:09] <Kilos> mirc costs
[18:10] <Cryterion> even the free version
[18:10] <Kilos> isnt it just for  a while
[18:10] <Kilos> wb pavlushka
[18:10] <Cryterion> more win based now anyway, so gave up on it anyway
[18:11] <Kilos> ouch
[18:11] <pavlushka> hey Kilos , you there?
[18:11] <pavlushka> Hey, got a new client for Ubuntu, its my nephew
[18:11] <Kilos> yes pavlushka
[18:11] <magespawn> ii remember using that back in the day
[18:11] <Kilos> cool
[18:11] <pavlushka> but he cannot testify for me, he is just a kid.
[18:12] <Kilos> testify?
[18:12] <pavlushka> but I am doing what I do.
[18:12] <Kilos> oh you mean for membership
[18:13] <pavlushka> write in testimonials, is there any other way to document my work?
[18:13] <Cryterion> hmm, software centre keeps crashing, grrr
[18:13] <Cryterion> brb
[18:13] <pavlushka> yes, otherwise you'll leave me as my Mentor.
[18:14] <Kilos> you must put in what you have done in your wiki page
[18:14] <Kilos> and make sure there is record of it somewhere
[18:14] <Kilos> ill be here till i get to tired to breathe man
[18:18] <inetpro> magespawn: how did you see that?
[18:19] <inetpro> oh and good evening to everyone
[18:19] <Kilos> ohi inetpro
[18:19] <magespawn> i sent a support query
[18:20] <inetpro> ahh
[18:20]  * inetpro busy looking at Http response time monitoring with Munin
[18:21] <inetpro> found this nice little plugin at https://devdoodles.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/http-response-time-monitoring-with-munin/
[18:21] <inetpro> now just need some help from the python gurus here like superfly and others
[18:21] <Cryterion> Kilo's was that better now?
[18:21] <inetpro> that thing is not working with HTTPS sites... I think
[18:22] <magespawn> inetpro: is that for a website or network?
[18:22] <Kilos> yes Cryterion
[18:22] <inetpro> magespawn: for monitoring web page response times
[18:22] <Cryterion> ok so it's fixed :)
[18:22] <inetpro> have something that I need/want to analyse
[18:22] <Kilos> [20:21] <-- Cryterion (~cryterion@unaffiliated/cryterion) has left this server (Client Quit).
[18:22] <Kilos> [20:21] --> Cryterion (~cryterion@unaffiliated/cryterion) has joined this channel.
[18:23] <Cryterion> ahuh
[18:23] <Cryterion> was the server auth thing
[18:23] <Kilos> yip
[18:24] <Kilos> when your client starts up you can see whats happening in the freenode tab
[18:25] <Cryterion> yeah I know, but it always joined channels while NickServ auth was it process
[18:25] <inetpro> superfly or others: if you have a moment, I've posted the code at https://bin.snyman.info/mmm2g7p6
[18:26] <Cryterion> I'll still look into other irc clients though, xchat isn't my favourite rite now
[18:26] <inetpro> how can I make that work with HTTPS sites?
[18:26] <superfly> inetpro: use an HTTPS connection
[18:27] <superfly> https://docs.python.org/2/library/httplib.html#httplib.HTTPSConnection
[18:27] <superfly> (aka, read the documentation)
[18:28] <inetpro> ahh, so this will definitely not work then
[18:28] <magespawn> man
[18:28] <inetpro> superfly: thanks
[18:29] <inetpro> hmm... looks more complicated than I thought
[18:33] <Kilos> hi Na3iL
[18:33] <superfly> inetpro: I don't see why?
[18:34] <Cryterion> I can't help with it, :( I do low level stuff
[18:34] <Na3iL> hiyas Kilos superfly Cryterion
[18:35] <Na3iL> how are you guys :D
[18:35] <Cryterion> heya Na3il
[18:35] <Kilos> dont forget inetpro
[18:35] <Kilos> he sulks
[18:35] <superfly> hi Na3iL
[18:35] <Cryterion> is atm I think
[18:35] <inetpro> superfly: want to monitor both HTTP and HTTPS at the same time
[18:36] <superfly> so?
[18:36] <inetpro> changing to httplib.HTTPSConnection makes it talk to port 443
[18:37] <Cryterion> apparently there's a problem in the https network, you can't isolate site calls
[18:37] <superfly> just use one or the other based on whether it starts with http or https
[18:37] <superfly> Cryterion: it's called SNI
[18:37] <Cryterion> ok
[18:38] <Cryterion> Just remember Russia threatening to Ban the Entire WikiPedia site cause they can't ban an individual page
[18:39] <inetpro> superfly: but that means I first have to pass the scheme to do_request() as well
[18:39] <inetpro> surely?
[18:39] <superfly> inetpro: easy enough
[18:39] <Kilos> inetpro dom idea maybe
[18:39] <superfly> Cryterion: filtering
[18:39] <Kilos> cant you run 2 instances of munin at the same time
[18:40] <superfly> inetpro: where do your URLs come from?
[18:40] <superfly> those ones seem to come from an environment variable?
[18:41] <inetpro> superfly: see https://devdoodles.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/http-response-time-monitoring-with-munin/
[18:41] <inetpro> URLs get set in /etc/munin/plugin-conf.d/munin-node
[18:42] <superfly> that's one horrible piece of Python, it could be so much prettier and better
[18:42] <inetpro> nou praat ons
[18:42] <inetpro> maybe I should look for a better script?
[18:43] <inetpro> s/script/plugin/
[18:43] <inetpro> same thing anyway
[18:43]  * Cryterion doesn't trust anything that comes from wordpress
[18:44] <pavlushka> Night guys!
[18:44] <Cryterion> night
[18:44] <Kilos> night pavlushka
[18:45] <superfly> inetpro: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmv42sw
[18:45] <superfly> Cryterion: haha!
[18:45] <superfly> night pavlushka
[18:49] <inetpro> fantastic superfly, fixed line 56 and now it works
[18:49] <inetpro> thanks!
[18:50] <inetpro> s/HTTPConnection/HTTPConnection/
[18:50] <inetpro> oops
[18:50] <inetpro> s/HTTPConnection/HTTPSConnection/
[19:09] <Cryterion> night everyone I'm out
[19:20] <Kilos> sjoe internet very slow
[19:25] <magespawn> Kilos, i thought it was just me
[19:26] <magespawn> can chat but nothing happening on the web side
[19:26] <Kilos> nope getting wallpapers app of 85m and downloading at 24mB/s
[19:27] <Kilos> and im falling asleep again
[19:27] <Kilos> sigh
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[19:29] <Kilos> why is the net slow?
[19:29] <Kilos> or why i getting that
[19:29] <inetpro> or why "im falling asleep"
[19:30] <Kilos> i dunno, slept well last night and 4 hours this avy
[19:30] <Kilos> maybe there is some truth in the old age thing
[19:30] <inetpro> Kilos: I said or
[19:30] <Kilos> lol
[19:30] <inetpro> you can decide which one you answer :-)
[19:31] <Kilos> i have
[19:31] <inetpro> ok
[19:31] <Kilos> you so cheeky
[19:31] <Kilos> obviously
[19:32] <inetpro> why not?
[19:32] <magespawn> nothing wrong with that, it is rather late
[19:32] <Kilos> well you always must remember, atm you are far away but that might not always be the case
[20:02] <Kilos> night all and every, sleep tight
[20:28] <magespawn> i am also off, good night all
[21:03] <inetpro> good night mage[tab]


[00:06] <krytarik> poco_: What icon theme are you using?  Tried another one yet?
[00:06] <poco_> krytarik, Yeah switching icons themes does nothing. I'm using Breeze dark
[00:48] <yoyo> join kdeconnect
[00:49] <VulcanJedi> When I click to add Facebook in Online Accounts, I receive the error  message "Could not load generic-oauth plugin, please check your  installation". I tried a few things as suggested here, added  backports ppa, ran apt update and full upgrade commands, rebooted, and  still the same error. Used apt search, as suggested, and the plugin is  installed.
[01:05] <valorie> VulcanJedi: facebook no longer allows connections outside their own apps
[01:06] <valorie> evidently some other messaging apps can still use it using old APIs or something
[01:09] <VulcanJedi> i guess that shouldn't surprise me
[01:26] <yoyo> AOL reborn
[05:44] <schnoodles> Anyone know for what reason my machine says I am out of disk space even though I should have HEAPS left. Or atleast know a good way to solve this. KDE PArtition Editor seems to think that its free.
[05:46] <sintre> what kubuntu version hdd and specs ect.
[05:46] <sintre> thats kinda out there and what is telling you you don't have space?
[05:47] <schnoodles> I was unable to create files through Dolphin. Unable to rsync to the system. This is to my mounted drive.
[05:47] <schnoodles> I just run BleachBit and it may have fixed it somewhere.
[05:48] <sintre> test if it fixed it
[05:48] <valorie> filelight is an excellent little app for seeing what's going on
[05:48] <valorie> !info filelight
[05:49] <schnoodles>  -- /root/ was 187gb when running du -sxh /*
[05:49] <schnoodles> Not it is around 11MB
[05:50] <schnoodles> No idea what was getting stored on root :\
[05:50] <valorie> filelight shows you -- just hover over the area
[05:50] <valorie> or click if you want more detailed info
[05:55] <schnoodles> valorie: any idea if there is a ppa for filelight? I am not a fan of compiling source if I d onot need to.
[05:55] <valorie> just apt install it
[05:55] <valorie> no ppa needed
[05:55] <schnoodles> Unable to find package :\
[05:56] <valorie> what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[05:56] <valorie> I've been using it for years
[05:56] <schnoodles> 16.10 with backports.
[05:56] <valorie> well, that's bizarre
[05:56] <sintre> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/filelight/
[05:57] <valorie> apt-cache policy filelight
[05:57] <valorie> filelight:
[05:57] <valorie>   Installed: 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1
[05:57] <valorie> that's in zesty though
[05:57] <valorie> strange old page you found, sintre
[05:58] <sintre> i tend to find them lol
[05:58] <sintre> two for today atleast
[05:59] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filelight
[05:59] <sintre> 16.04 is yakkity right
[06:00] <sintre> i mean xenial
[06:00] <valorie> yes
[06:00] <schnoodles> Ok it is in there.
[06:00] <schnoodles> Thats odd. The space problems I had was screwing up APT sources
[06:00] <schnoodles> so reran update and it appeared.
[06:00] <sintre> so all well?
[06:01] <schnoodles> Yep all good now. If I run into this root problem again I may be back
[06:01] <valorie> excellent
[06:01] <schnoodles> odd that is was something like 130G for /root haha
[06:01] <schnoodles> thanks for the help :)
[06:01] <valorie> a billion retries maybe
[06:02] <schnoodles> Well all good for now. Thanks heaps.
[06:02] <valorie> you're welcome
[06:02] <sintre> np , i really don't wth i'm doing half the time
[06:03] <valorie> lol
[06:03] <sintre> i'm just good at figuring outproblems more than fixing them
[06:03] <valorie> that's always a good first step
[06:03] <sintre> val knows where to go :)
[08:28] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:16] <sajmoon> hi all
[09:17] <sajmoon> need some help with setting up display hooked to integrated graphic card
[09:19] <soee> hi sajmoon, What is the problem ? What Kubuntu version?
[10:03] <Bos3Mq> anyone ever built a custom iso using live-build before?
[10:34] <yossarianuk> hi - using plasma 5.8.x - how can I change pidgin notification volume ?
[10:38] <yossarianuk> i.e when I get a notication I can see the volume in the application volume  in 'audio volume' however as soon as the sound finishes I cannot see it any longer and when another sound occurs  it goes to the default one
[10:38] <yossarianuk> *default volume*
[11:20] <VulcanJedi> yossarianuk, have you tried turning down system notification volume in the volume settings?
[11:25] <yossarianuk> I don't think pigin counts as system notification...
[11:26] <yossarianuk> I asked in #kde and they recommend commenting 'flat-volume = no'
[11:26] <VulcanJedi> i think it's systemwide notifications, not necessarily ubuntu's notifications
[11:27] <yossarianuk> ok cheers
[11:28] <VulcanJedi> good luck
[11:28] <yossarianuk> thanks
[11:30] <yossarianuk> I have the sound 'frankly my dear I don't give a damn' (gone with the wind) as my msg notification which was funny until I had a hr long conversation with someone... Also my laptop is providing the radio for the room...  (hence me wanting to change the volume..)
[11:38] <VulcanJedi> indeed
[11:39] <VulcanJedi> i'm not fully setup on kde just yet, so if the notification volume doesn't solve it, i will end up seeking the same info
[11:40] <VulcanJedi> i don't need any pidgin notification interrupting my jams
[11:54] <yossarianuk> ok - fairly major issue...  I have dual screen - if I try to use the right click menu on the right screen (i.e using dolphin) on an icon near the right of the screen the right click menu doesn't open
[11:54] <yossarianuk> however if I do the same on primary screen the right click menu opens to the left-
[11:55] <yossarianuk> i.e I cannot use right click menu unless I drag the icon to the left of the screen on the right monitor - its like it cant open as its trying to open to the right but its the screen edge...
[11:56] <yossarianuk> sorry - I dont mean the inital right click menu - i mean the sub menu - i.e right click on icon -> open-with (for example)
[11:56] <yossarianuk> really annoying
[11:58] <yossarianuk> if I hover over (for exmaple) open-with -> nothing happens I see no sub menu unless I drag the dolphin screen over to the left of the screen
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:51] <General_Martok> hi, can someone tell me the name of the app which is similar to OS X Mission Controll?
[15:57] <yossarianuk> General_Martok: do yo umean to see all open apps ?
[15:57] <yossarianuk> *do you mean*
[15:58] <General_Martok> yes
[15:59] <General_Martok> i want to put this function on my middle mouse button
[16:15] <KurousagiMK2> General_Martok:Ctrl+Tab or Widget Window list http://imgur.com/a/r6xfF possibly this option --> An Introduction to KDE Virtual Desktops & Activities http://takingnothingforgranted.com/introduction-kde-virtual-desktops-activities/
[16:18] <BluesKaj> KurousagiMK2, and your question is ?
[16:19] <KurousagiMK2> <BluesKaj: [17:51] <General_Martok> hi, can someone tell me the name of the app which is similar to OS X Mission Controll?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> no idea, not a mac user
[16:21] <KurousagiMK2> it's not my question
[16:23] <BluesKaj> it's not ?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> KurousagiMK2, I can help with activities and VDs idf you have questions about them...posting urls to show your issues is not good practice until after you've stated your problem
[16:33] <KurousagiMK2> General_Martok asked "hi, can someone tell me the name of the app which is similar to OS X Mission Controll?" I only saw it? http://imgur.com/a/NxLQa
[16:34] <General_Martok> I want to switch between Apps. I want to see  all open ones in a kind of preview mode like Mission control in OS X. See here: http://images.techhive.com/images/article/2012/12/expose-all-windows-100018345-large.jpg
[16:35] <General_Martok> there is a app in Linux but i don't know the name
[16:36] <Smurphy> it already is in kubuntu...
[16:36] <Smurphy> Just configure it right.
[16:36] <General_Martok> where?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> General_Martok, use the icon only taskmanager
[16:36] <BluesKaj> for the panel
[16:38] <General_Martok> sry that doesn't help me
[16:38] <BluesKaj> i wouldn't like that muchclutter on my desktop, but to each his own
[16:39] <BluesKaj> please tell what you wantto do  instead of posting pictures of desktops
[16:39] <General_Martok> the idea is to put the function on the middle mouse button to have an overview/preview of all open Windows/apps
[16:43] <acheronuk> 'resent windows' maybe the desktop affect you want?
[16:44] <acheronuk> can have that set to trigger via moving cursor to a particular corner, or certain key combination I think
[16:45] <General_Martok> if thats the name maybe, i have german Kubuntu und don't find "recent windows"
[16:45] <KurousagiMK2> "Present Windows" http://imgur.com/a/iheJ7
[16:46] <acheronuk> it's in desktop effects
[16:46] <General_Martok> thats it, yes
[16:46] <acheronuk> in system settings
[16:48] <General_Martok> thats it
[16:48] <General_Martok> thx
[16:48] <acheronuk> not sure if you can bins to the middle key by default, but in linux there are some programs or settings that you can use to reassign mouse button mappings etc, and/or assign them to be equivalent to a series of key presses
[16:48] <acheronuk> long time since I tried that though.....
[16:48] <acheronuk> s/bins/bind
[16:51] <General_Martok> ok
[16:53] <General_Martok> thank you, i have put it in a corner und will search for a solution for the middle mouse button
[18:13] <wxl> can anyone suggest a method for input of chinese?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> wxl, with a character map?if so try KCharSelect
[18:16] <wxl> BluesKaj: no, like ibus or what?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> no clue about ibus
[18:18] <wxl> there's about a billion different input managers and about a billion different instructions on how to do it, but no clear path
[18:18] <wxl> i want to be able to switch from normal english input to pinyin and toggle between them
[18:19] <wxl> the problem is i'm worried about ibus because i've had it be problematic in the past
[18:21] <KurousagiMK2> maybe im-config?
[18:21] <wxl> yeah that's not actually helpful, really
[18:22] <wxl> it doesn't seem that fcitx, ibus, or uim are installed
[18:23] <wxl> i'm not sure any input manager is
[19:00] <Roey> hi
[19:00] <Roey> I upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10, and now my system has trouble resolving address names... how can I diagnose this
[19:00] <Roey> ?
[19:04] <Roey>  BluesKaj: hi!!
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Roey, which address names ? Hostnames or nameservers or???
[19:11] <Roey> any
[19:12] <Roey> the nameservers--even if I put in the OpenDNS ones into /etc/resolv.conf, it doesn't appear to take hold.
[19:12] <Roey> BluesKaj: the nameservers come from Verizon so.. in /etc/resolv.conf there is just "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and then "search verizon.net".
[19:12] <BluesKaj> assume you've updated and upgraded since installing
[19:13] <Roey> BluesKaj: correct
[19:13] <Roey> or
[19:13] <Roey> well I would have
[19:13] <BluesKaj> using networ-manager?
[19:13] <Roey> but I can't resolve anything
[19:13] <Roey> hrm
[19:14] <Roey> network manager doesn't appear after I issue the command "sudo NetworkManager".
[19:14] <BluesKaj> try sudo dhclient
[19:15] <Roey> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:15] <Roey> I already have an IP
[19:15] <Roey> and I can go to hosts by IP
[19:15] <BluesKaj> ok good , now try a browser
[19:15] <Roey> but it times out in reoslving names, and it doesn't load pages properly
[19:15] <Roey> BluesKaj: ^^ in a browser
[19:17] <BluesKaj> Roey, sudo systemctl start network-manager
[19:18] <Roey> ok
[19:18] <Roey> it doesn't appear to do anything
[19:18] <Roey> just returns to the commandlien
[19:18] <Roey> commandline
[19:18] <BluesKaj> no errors
[19:19] <Roey> right
[19:19] <Roey> BluesKaj: can you give me rafb.net's ip?
[19:19] <Roey> I'll post the text from "sudo systemctl status network-manager".
[19:20] <BluesKaj> sudo systenmctl enable network-manager, then run the start command again
[19:20] <Roey> ok, one moment
[19:20] <Roey> Synchronizing state of network-manager.service with SysV service script with /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install.
[19:20] <Roey> Executing: /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable network-manager
[19:20] <Roey> and I still don't get anything
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ok now run the start I posted
[19:21] <Roey> ok
[19:21] <Roey> I did, and I don't see any output
[19:21] <BluesKaj> have some patience we're not done yet
[19:21] <Roey> ok
[19:23] <BluesKaj> ok ,now sudo systemctl start systemd-networkd
[19:23] <Roey> ok
[19:24] <Roey> ok I did.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> sudo dhclient eth0
[19:25] <Roey> $ sudo dhclient eth3
[19:25] <Roey> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:26] <BluesKaj> now check sudo apt update , to see if it fetches the sources
[19:26] <BluesKaj> if it does then you should be good to go
[19:27] <Roey> ok
[19:27] <Roey> it doesn't
[19:27] <Roey> it just sits there at 0%
[19:27] <Roey> "Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[19:27] <sintre> going a little primitive here , any chance have you checked the cables?
[19:27] <Roey> well
[19:28] <Roey> I'm connected and talking here, right?
[19:28] <sintre> ok so same pc
[19:28] <Roey> correct
[19:28] <Roey> sintre: it's this name resolution that's timing out
[19:28] <BluesKaj> so your in aVT/TTY ?
[19:28] <Roey> oh I'm in KDE
[19:29] <Roey> and yakuake
[19:30] <BluesKaj> hmm, maybe it's time for the oldf reliable ,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:31] <Roey> one moment.
[19:31] <Roey> hi
[19:31] <Roey> (am I still here?)
[19:31] <sintre> yea
[19:31] <Roey> oh
[19:31] <Roey> so I ran it
[19:32] <Roey> "[....] Restarting networking (via systemctl): networking.service
[19:32] <Roey> " / "ok"  <-- output I got.
[19:32] <Roey> gethostip google.com still hangs though.
[19:32] <BluesKaj> just ping google.com
[19:32] <Roey> going to "slashdot.org" in Firefox change sthe status line to "looking up slashdot.org"
[19:32] <sintre> can you check your isps site and see if any problems going on ?
[19:32] <Roey> BluesKaj: it also hangs
[19:32] <Roey> sintre: well I can connect with other devices on the same router and they connect fine to web sites.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[19:33] <Roey> can youu plase give me the IP address for the pastebin?
[19:33] <Roey> since the system can't resolve it...
[19:33] <Roey> auto lo
[19:33] <Roey> iface lo inet loopback
[19:33] <Roey> ^ that's the contents.
[19:34] <genii> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:35] <Roey> thanks genii
[19:35] <genii> np
[19:35] <Roey> genii: I pasted the contents above
[19:35] <genii> Still need the unique URL to go to
[19:36] <Roey> ok
[19:40] <Roey> genii: yeah this is so frsturating :(
[19:41] <BluesKaj> try the apt update again
[19:41]  * genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around
[19:41]  * BluesKaj happily takes a mug
[19:42] <BluesKaj> frankly i hate nm , sooner run a stsic IP then muck about with it'
[19:42] <BluesKaj> then=than
[19:43] <BluesKaj> make runinga vpn more complicated dto set up, but it's worth it
[19:44] <BluesKaj> static ip even
[19:46] <Roey> BluesKaj: it won't connect
[19:46] <Roey> oh
[19:46] <Roey> nevermind
[19:46] <Roey> wait
[19:47] <Roey> after 30 seconds of sitting there tyring to connect,
[19:47] <Roey> it does appear to give output
[19:49] <KurousagiMK2> 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Known bugs and work-a-rounds https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2340042 post #10 maybe help
[19:49] <Roey> "All packages are up to date."
[19:50] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: thank you, loading it...
[19:50] <Roey> trying to load it, rather..
[19:50] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: what'sthe IP for that site?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> ok try a browser with a url
[19:51] <Roey> BluesKaj: I just did
[19:51] <Roey> "Looking up ubuntuforums.org"
[19:51] <Roey> and now it says "Server not found"
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Roey, he's not trying to help you , he's l;ooking for help with his own problem
[19:53] <Roey> BluesKaj: oh, ok.
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Roey, sudo apt install --reintall network-manager
[19:54] <BluesKaj> -- reinstall
[19:54] <Roey> aye
[19:54] <BluesKaj> I'm going blind'
[19:55] <Roey> ok, issued it.  One moment as we wait...
[19:55] <Roey> BluesKaj: you're awesome
[19:56] <BluesKaj> not really just a user who dislikes network-manager , but that's another story
[19:56] <Roey> ok, it ran it
[19:56] <BluesKaj> and it reinstalled?
[19:56] <Roey> yes
[19:57] <sintre> i'd try  a reboot at hi point
[19:57] <sintre> this sry
[19:57] <BluesKaj> genii, any suggesions?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> reboot is usual after a reinstall alright'
[19:58] <BluesKaj> Roey, try a reboot
[19:59] <genii> BluesKaj: Maybe add Google's DNS to /etc/resolv.conf  like, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>   ( which should take effect immediately without a network restart) to get dns kickstarted
[20:00] <BluesKaj> Roey, read geni's post above
[20:00]  * genii hands out fresh mugs of coffee
[20:01] <Roey> BluesKaj: ok.. btw I've tried rebooting before and it did not work; I've tried adding openDNS to /etc/resolv.conf and it didnt' change anything.  Now I just tried <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/resolv.conf, and it doesn't appear to change anything
[20:01] <Roey> oh
[20:01] <Roey> wait
[20:02] <Roey> after a bit, I get pingbacks from google.com
[20:02] <BluesKaj> quick draw
[20:02] <Roey> I tried it again just now,l
[20:02] <Roey> and it's been 40 seconds so far that it's timing out.
[20:03] <Roey>  ping google.com
[20:03] <Roey> ping: google.com: Name or service not known
[20:03] <Roey> ack
[20:03] <Roey> it's not consistent!
[20:03] <BluesKaj> reboot your router/modem as alast resort
[20:03] <sintre> reboot your system as well
[20:03] <sintre> sinse your at it
[20:04] <Roey> ok.
[20:04] <Roey> BTW--
[20:04] <BluesKaj> resolv.conf used get overwritten by nm andanother file , not sure if that's still the case
[20:04] <Roey> my /etc/resolv.conf got overwritten again
[20:04] <Roey> yeah
[20:04] <Roey> it still does.
[20:04] <Roey> ugh
[20:05] <Roey> sintre: I've done that again and again and nohting works.
[20:06] <Roey> BluesKaj: I did that, too.
[20:06] <Roey> did't help
[20:06] <sintre> sinse bluekay had you reinstall network manager you haven't
[20:06] <Roey> right
[20:06] <Roey> ok I suppose so.
[20:06] <Roey> lemme try.
[20:12] <Roey> hi
[20:13] <Roey> no go
[20:13] <Roey> still the same issue.
[20:13] <Roey> I rebooted and all.
[20:13]  * sintre scratches head
[20:13] <BluesKaj> Roey, ok ,   kdesudo kate /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head within the run command (alt+F2) and enter the google nameservers there, ignore the warning. This is an old fix, but it might work.
[20:13] <Roey> ok/me will BBIAB.... brohter and sister came over to say hi, impromptu without tellin gme
[20:14] <Roey> I added "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" to it
[20:14] <Roey> "ping google" still times out
[20:14] <Roey> ok/me will BBIAB.... brohter and sister came over to say hi, impromptu without tellin gme
[20:16] <KurousagiMK2> Roey disable the local forwarding nameserver by commenting out the line "dns=dnsmasq" in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[20:20] <BluesKaj> this kind of bug is exactly why I no longer use NM...static IP all the way for ethernet , wifi is a different story
[20:24] <powerking> Hello
[20:24] <powerking> Anybody know opengl?
[20:24] <powerking> opengl and c
[20:25] <sintre> this is more of a support channel for kubuntu , not a programming channel
[20:26] <powerking> ok
[20:26] <sintre> i'm sure many here do though
[20:26] <powerking> sure
[20:26] <powerking> only support?
[20:27] <sintre> # kubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <sintre> general convo on anything there
[20:27] <powerking> ok
[20:27] <sintre> same people there as here nomrally
[20:27] <powerking> then
[20:28] <powerking> i new user on kubuntu
[20:29] <sintre> if your an esl troll get lost , have a question about setup or trouble shooting we'll help as best we can
[20:30] <genii> powerking: You might want to try ##OpenGL channel for help with OpenGL
[20:30] <powerking> thanx :D
[20:30] <powerking> s
[20:30] <BluesKaj>  powerking opengl how ,set it in system settings>display and monitor>composditor >rendering backend
[20:31] <genii> BluesKaj: Since they're asking about OpenGL and C at the same time, most likely a programming question
[20:31] <powerking> yea
[20:31] <powerking> thanx for the help
[20:32] <powerking> i have not install display and monitor
[20:32] <BluesKaj> think if he's new it would be good to know where to mlook
[20:32] <powerking> no
[20:32] <powerking> i find it
[20:33] <powerking> ok...
[20:33] <powerking> three options
[20:33] <powerking> xrender,opengl 2 and opengl 3
[20:34] <BluesKaj> powerking, what is your graphics/gpu ?
[20:34] <tinn3s> are you guys talking about the cursor bug ?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> no tinn3s opengl
[20:35] <powerking> graphics motor
[20:35] <powerking> physics
[20:35] <BluesKaj> processor
[20:35] <powerking> intel duo
[20:35] <powerking> not i7
[20:36] <powerking> 2.8 ghz each
[20:36] <BluesKaj> graphics processor not cpu
[20:36] <powerking> a ok
[20:36] <powerking> nvidia gts 250 512 mb ddr2
[20:37] <BluesKaj> powerking,  in the terminal,  sudo lshw -C video
[20:38] <BluesKaj> look at the product line
[20:39] <powerking>  description: VGA compatible controller
[20:39] <powerking>        product: G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
[20:39] <powerking>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[20:39] <powerking>        physical id: 0
[20:39] <powerking>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[20:39] <powerking>        version: a2
[20:42] <BluesKaj> powerking, open the terminal, sudo apt install nvidia-340, then you'll have to reboot
[20:44] <tinn3s> Somebody here with bumblebee experience ?
[20:56] <valorie> !bumblebee
[20:56] <valorie> tinn3s: ^^^
[20:58] <soee_> i think nvidia-prime is the way to go
[20:59] <tinn3s> im installing it at the moment ^^
[21:04] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: ok, I commented the line out; now what shoudl I do?
[21:05] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: I tried pinging google.com, still it hangs there.
[21:06] <tinn3s> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[21:06] <Roey> Heya valorie :)
[21:06] <KurousagiMK2> Roey: systemctl restart network-manager
[21:07] <Roey> ok
[21:07] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: did that now.
[21:13] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: so <IP_ADDRESS> appears in /etc/resolv.conf, yet.... name resolution operations (ping, etc.) keep timing out
[21:14] <Roey> ping, gethostip
[21:14] <KurousagiMK2> Roey: make sure you are running systemd-resolved "systemctl status systemd-resolved"
[21:14] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: $ systemctl status systemd-resolve
[21:14] <Roey> Unit systemd-resolve.service could not be found.
[21:16] <Roey> KurousagiMK2: $ sudo systemctl start systemd-resolve
[21:16] <Roey> Failed to start systemd-resolve.service: Unit systemd-resolve.service not found.
[21:21] <valorie> hi Roey
[21:21] <Roey> hi valorie
[21:21] <Roey> I'm feeling pretty low
[21:21] <valorie> sorry, opened facebook and got lost for a few
[21:21] <Roey> oh sure!
[21:22] <valorie> your town is about to be inundated with people
[21:30] <KurousagiMK2> Roey: apt install ubuntu-standard
[21:33] <valorie> !info ubuntu-standard
[21:33] <valorie> KurousagiMK2: is that the underlying system?
[21:36] <KurousagiMK2> valorie: "[21:00] <Roey> I upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10, and now my system has trouble resolving address names... how can I diagnose this"
[21:36] <KurousagiMK2> DNS resolver changes in yakkety https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-May/039350.html
[21:38] <valorie> oh right, I remember discussion about this
[21:38] <valorie> I experienced a massive slowdown in DNS resolving for awhile
[21:38] <valorie> it's still a bit slow in zesty
[21:38] <valorie> but not as bad as it was for awhile in yakkety