[08:05]  * lotuspsychje hears amiga thinks c64 press play on tape
[08:05] <ObrienDave> LOL
[08:06] <lvleph> Could someone point me in the direction of a how to for converting an EFI boot to an MBR boot for grub?
[08:07] <lvleph> There are plenty that go the other direction, but...
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | lvleph
[08:08] <xmetal> and back awhile ago i here "precise" and I rhink of Ubuntu 15.04 Smiling Smeagol
[08:08] <xmetal> er hear *
[08:09] <lvleph> lotuspsychje, the only directions on there that seem related requires a BIOS, but I am on a Mac
[08:09] <lonmarlon> hello
[08:09] <lonmarlon> i'm using a lightdm
[08:09] <auronandace> !mac | lvleph
[08:09] <wokko_> hello
[08:09] <lvleph> and Boot-repair doesn't work
[08:10] <wokko_> no
[08:10] <lonmarlon> i'm unable to use xlaunch in windows
[08:10] <lvleph> thank you auronandace I have read that
[08:10] <lonmarlon> could someone guide me or give me an idea
[08:11] <lonmarlon> regarding about my host ubuntu 12.04 uses lightdm
[08:11] <lonmarlon> i'm unable to use xlaunch through my host
[08:11] <lvleph> lonmarlon, are you using a vm?
[08:11] <lonmarlon> no
[08:12] <lvleph> What do you mean by host? SSH
[08:12] <lonmarlon> another computer
[08:12] <lvleph> and how are you getting into the server is what I am asking
[08:13] <lonmarlon> xlaunch
[08:13] <lonmarlon> i'm trying to use xlaunch i can login through ssh
[08:14] <lvleph> why not x forwarding?
[08:14] <lonmarlon> xlaunch = so it could like a remote desktop
[08:14] <lvleph> I don't know anything about xlaunch, but x forwarding using ssh may be easier and enough?
[08:15] <lonmarlon> i would to see the desktop
[08:15] <lvleph> ok, nm
[08:15] <lonmarlon> not only the through shell
[08:15] <auronandace> !vnc | lonmarlon
[08:16] <lonmarlon> should i also install vnc on my server? aside from my pc
[08:16] <wafflejock> lonmarlon: yes
[08:16] <lonmarlon> aah ok i'll try
[08:16] <wafflejock> lonmarlon: you need VNC on both sides search for SSH tunnel for VNC
[08:16] <wafflejock> lonmarlon: that way can keep it all through SSH if you'd like
[08:17] <lonmarlon> thanks i understand
[08:21] <sometux> looking for onscreen keyboard for kde???
[08:24] <reisio> sometux: apt-cache search keyboard | grep -i kde
[08:40] <DarthDepa> Hi guys :) Is it possible that, with an HP 250 G1 (notebook), with only one video-card (Intel), I get screen shutdown at Ubuntu 13.10's boot?
[08:40] <DarthDepa> Both live and installed version...
[08:40] <DarthDepa> And 13.04 too...
[08:40] <reisio> if you're saying that happens, I'd have to say it's possible, yes
[08:41] <DarthDepa> reisio: lol yes :) Happens... Why?? Is it possible that depends on UEFI?
[08:41] <reisio> DarthDepa: I doubt it
[08:42] <DarthDepa> Which may be the problem?
[08:43] <DarthDepa> A not supported video card?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> DarthDepa, pretty low spec machine.  you might find it's happier with lubuntu/xubuntu.
[08:44] <DarthDepa> If I connect and external monitor, works fine
[08:44] <reisio> DarthDepa: look around during bootup for an option called 'nomodeset'
[08:44] <DarthDepa> and if I remove it, works with laptop monitor
[08:45] <omri> Is there an official mysql 5.6 package for precise? or any official mysql 5.6 package for that matter?
[08:45] <reisio> DarthDepa: so it works, but only after you connect an external monitor & disconnect it?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !mysql
[08:45] <DarthDepa> reisio: yes
[08:45] <TazmainianDevil> hi all I am running ubntu-server 12.04. I have two call two scripts in my /etc/rc.local file to be started at boot however only one gets executed how can I get both to execute ?
[08:45] <VanessaE> ok, I've got a new problem - my machine hard-freezes when coming up from suspend.   Some cursory googling shows others with similar problems.  Where do I do now?
[08:45] <reisio> omri: nope
[08:46] <VanessaE> er, what do I do*
[08:46] <omri> :\
[08:46] <reisio> DarthDepa: is there a display on/off Fn+F# key combo on the keyboard?
[08:46] <DarthDepa> reisio: no :(
[08:47] <DarthDepa> reisio: there is only the possibility to switch between monitors... but not works...
[08:48] <wiel> i used the app on pendrive linux's site to make ubuntu bootable and persistent on a usb stick. now ubuntu wont boot and i need an important file from the persistent storage
[08:48] <wiel> what can i do?
[08:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: no problem with Windows 8 and 7...
[08:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: the notebook is new...
[08:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: just unpacked...
[08:50] <reisio> DarthDepa: doesn't tell you much that it works in Windows
[08:51] <DarthDepa> reisio: XD I told you only in order to exclude hardware problem :) I hate Windows...
[08:51] <DarthDepa> reisio: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201301-12667/components/
[08:51] <reisio> :p
[08:52] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, it may help understanding your problem if you give us the pastebin link to your /etc/rc.local file.
[08:52] <DarthDepa> reisio: means that is supported, right?
[08:53] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, um well my rc.local calls two cripts I made, let me upload them as well.
[08:53] <reisio> DarthDepa: dunno, looks that way
[08:53] <DarthDepa> reisio: which way?? :)
[08:54] <reisio> the way you described, "supported"
[08:54] <MajSlayer> would installing TeamView be a good idea to ssh into a dedicated remote server, would it allow me access to a desktop? or would it still just be console only?
[08:54] <DarthDepa> reisio: I don't know if is a "support" issue... :( If I remove the external monitor, works fine...
[08:54] <reisio> you said :p
[08:54] <DarthDepa> reisio: maybe lightdm problem?? but I trought with GDM and not works at all
[08:55] <DarthDepa> reisio: no, I ask you :)
[08:55] <reisio> DarthDepa: I'd try booting http://sysresccd.org/ and seeing if there is a different result
[08:55] <reisio> that would rule many other things out
[08:55] <reisio> it also has many boot options that could rule even more things out
[08:55] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, http://pastebin.com/dhpFDgxF
[08:56] <DarthDepa> reisio: so, you suggest me that live and see if screen works?
[08:56] <reisio> DarthDepa: yup
[08:57] <DarthDepa> reisio: I will check :) And come here to tell you result...
[08:57] <reisio> ok
[08:58] <TazmainianDevil> Let me rephras, I am running ubntu-server 12.04. I have two call two scripts in my /etc/rc.local file to be started at boot however only one gets executed how can I get both to execute ? http://pastebin.com/dhpFDgxF
[08:58] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, do you background them?
[08:59] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, how do I get the first one to background ? The crucible one backgrounds itself
[08:59] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, is it the "perforce.sh" script that doesn't get executed?
[08:59] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, no the crucible-start doesn't get executed
[08:59] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, add " &" (space, ampersand) at end of both lines. also, make sure your bash scrit starts with #!, not just !.
[09:00] <varunendra> +1 ^^
[09:00] <jsonwhite> has anyone set up a virtualized environment with ubuntu? and mind explaining how to manually set up shared folders
[09:00] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, it does start with a # just the copy that was being stupid. Do I need to add a & ad the end of the cd line as well ?
[09:01] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, no. just in the RC file. & makes the left-side command run as a background job.
[09:01] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, awh I see what you mean let me try
[09:01] <slut_tits> Bu
[09:01] <slut_tits> Hi
[09:02] <cfhowlett> slut_tits, change the name please.  this is a family friendly channel
[09:02] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, also there are some points where you can optimize performance and stability of your scripts once you learn more about bash scripting.
[09:03] <Sven_vB> nothing bad in this case, though
[09:03] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I will have a look, these scripts are currently just to get two program running at boot time.
[09:04] <TazmainianDevil> programs *
[09:04] <the_drow> What's the equivalent of visio in ubuntu?
[09:04] <reisio> the_drow: I believe koffice and libreoffice both have alternatives
[09:05] <Emi_> Hello
[09:05] <reisio> Emi_: 'lo
[09:06] <reisio> the_drow: oh yeah koffice is calligra now
[09:06] <reisio> libreoffice draw / calligra flow
[09:07] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, okay the perforce one worked like a charm, the curcible one said it was starting but didn't launch correctly. Is there a way I can delay it being executed ?
[09:07] <Sven_vB> the_drow, looking for flow diagrams?
[09:07] <andreiiar> Is there any difference on calling scrips from /etc/init.d from calling them with invoke-rc.d??? Why shuld I call them one way or the other????
[09:08] <reisio> andreiiar: you should probably call them with sudo service FOO
[09:08] <reisio> andreiiar: ...because that is how you're intended to
[09:09] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, after, cd, sleep 10s
[09:09] <andreiiar> I was told to run them directly from init.d folder but I've seen people calling them with invoke-rc.d. Nobody uses service
[09:09] <linu1> hi all i have been trying to read atr valuse using pn533 nfc reader,using libnfc and pcscd,when i started deamon it shows me http://pastebin.com/MKDVDfsb  can you please help me
[09:09] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I mean I want to delay the curcible-start one ?
[09:10] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, "sleep 10 && exec /Crucible/bin/start.sh"
[09:10] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, sorry, confused them. replace line 16 with ( sleep 10s; /etc/init/crucible-start ) &
[09:10] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, don't sleep in the main process of your rc or you will delay the whole script.
[09:11] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, oops
[09:11] <TazmainianDevil> xD
[09:11] <Sven_vB> however ( .. ) & makes all those go to background, including sleep.
[09:11] <varunendra> Sven_vB, never thought about that delay thing, thanks for pointing that out :)
[09:12] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, so I put "sleep && exec ... " in the crucible-start ?
[09:12] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, just read what Sven_vB said about it after my msg
[09:13] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I put the sleep in my rc.local and it worked lol. so it goes /root/perforce.sh &   new line sleep 20 new line /etc/init/crucible-start &
[09:13] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys
[09:14] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, that is varunendra's solution, which will delay your rc. that is unelegant, and might probably earn you warnings about bad startup performance once you have analysis software for that.
[09:14] <user82> hi. i created a shortcut for matlab in /usr/share/applications/ and now when i start it from the unity lens it runs and then shuts down again after a second or so. when i run the same command in the terminal it works well. did i miss anything?
[09:14] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, yup, I agree completely with Sven_vB
[09:15] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, yeah before you said don't put it in the rc.local file I had already done that and rebooted.
[09:15] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, ok. then try better with ( ... ) &
[09:15] <allstarsnorks2> I feel stupid now. I just borrowed the"Official Ubuntu Book" CD, thinking it was an Ubuntu tutorial but it was actually a distribution of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS XD
[09:15] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, so with the curcible-start file would would it be "sleep 30 " new line " exe ..." ?
[09:16] <reisio> allstarsnorks2: but since you're online, you can get anything
[09:16] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, well, you can do that, but if you're not maintainer of the file in /etc/init/, don't touch it, or you get edit conflicts on updates.
[09:17] <Sven_vB> ( sleep 30s; /etc/init/crucible-start ) & <--- should work just fine
[09:18] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, where would i put what you just said about the ( sleep ...) ?
[09:18] <Sven_vB> this way, sleep is not in your rc process, because the & makes all the ( ... ) go to background, including sleep
[09:18] <Sven_vB> you'd put that in your RC
[09:18] <Sven_vB> replacing line 16 of your pastebin
[09:18] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, awh I see. What about be the best way to get thing to start at boot time ?
[09:18] <allstarsnorks2_> is it really necessary to have a SWAP partition?
[09:19] <Sven_vB> i think the latest fashion is to wirte upstart jobs
[09:19] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I'm not sure ubuntu-server 12.04 has that yet ?
[09:19] <GnubNix> You can run without swap, but it's more effecient to have a small amount of swap available unless you're running on very small partitions on an SSD or something like that.
[09:19] <Sven_vB> allstarsnorks2_, no. if you have 2 GB RAM or more, you usually won't want a swap.
[09:20] <reisio> allstarsnorks2_: they're pretty useful, even when you don't need them for day to day operations
[09:20] <aeon-ltd> allstarsnorks2: necessary? no. useful, yes
[09:20] <pirret> 2GB no swap?!
[09:20] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, i don't know details about upstart, just read it somewhere.
[09:20] <pirret> my browser alone takes almost 2GB ram :P
[09:20] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, but with an SSD you wouldn't want to swap in anycase
[09:20] <reisio> if you want to hibernate you're usually going to want swap, for example
[09:21] <allstarsnorks2_> I'm really happy to find out that it is legal to distribute Ubuntu.
[09:21] <Sven_vB> hibernate never cleanly works for me, anyway. (even with a swap. ;-) )
[09:22] <TazmainianDevil> allstarsnorks2_, its open source you allowed to modify and distrubute your version of it
[09:22] <allstarsnorks2_> by the way, i want to wish Ubuntu an advanced 10th anniversary
[09:23] <tim_> angel4tim
[09:23] <the_drow_> reisio: Oh found it. Thanks!
[09:23] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil, SSD lifetime isn't a problem anymore. At least not on a simple workstation machine. you will be hard pressed to hit a write lock even if you tried. I prefer to have a little swap available. Lots of people don't, but if i can afford the space then i'm happy to do it :)
[09:25] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, would you happen to know if the vertext 3's lifetime isnt an issue? Then how is that lifetime affected if you use parted magic using secure internal wipe to clean it before you reload ?
[09:26] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, in a twist, use a cheaply replaceable SSD for just swap and nothing important. this way, if it breaks, no big deal.
[09:26] <jsonwhite> linux is so frustrating...
[09:26] <allstarsnorks2_> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - Pretty nifty
[09:26] <reisio> jsonwhite: nah
[09:26] <TazmainianDevil> Can anyone give me a good link to understand how to create and view users as well as user groups ?
[09:26] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, yeah. real pity that there's no cool OS out there.
[09:26] <allstarsnorks2_> Ubuntu 12.04 says I havw 2GB Disk space, but I have 40GB!
[09:27] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, true, I mean there are those hybrid drives now with the ssd's on
[09:27] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil as far as i know the secure erase function just flips a switch in the controller to set all the nand chips to 0. Wether or not each 0 would count as a write is a good question.
[09:27] <Sven_vB> allstarsnorks2_, are you using gparted to prepare partitions for install?
[09:27] <allstarsnorks2_> no, I'm on Ubiquity rn
[09:28] <jsonwhite> let me correct myself, commandline is frustrating....
[09:28] <Sven_vB> allstarsnorks2_, i made good experience with managing them in gparted before starting ubiquity.
[09:28] <fishcooker> i have 1GB memory ... this is my #free -m result here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6452417/ ... is my all memory are almost used ?
[09:28] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, why that?
[09:28] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, that is true, I mean with a normal HDD you can refresh the surface using spin right , hard drive regenirator or even just a nwipe
[09:31] <jsonwhite> gui makes it so easy to move around files... it probably spoiled me... declaring directories and learning new functions take too long... so many errors, can't even figure out what went wrong half the time
[09:31] <allstarsnorks2_> Installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a real burned CD takes a hella long time. LOL
[09:31] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, for moving files more graphically, have you tried midnight commander?
[09:32] <ihre> is there a sed -i (inline) equivalent for awk?
[09:32] <Sven_vB> *-i (in place)
[09:32] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil I have used Spinrite to fix a drive before actually :). Not a bad product. I've never used the "refresh" functionality though. As for your vertex 3, i'm not 100% up to date on all brands, but I read an article on Anandtech where they said the Samsung 840 Pro which i currently have has a lifespam of about 20 years with 20GB of writes a day or something like that. You can have a read here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/sam
[09:32] <reisio> #awk
[09:32] <GnubNix> sung-ssd-840-testing-the-endurance-of-tlc-nand
[09:32] <FloodBot1> GnubNix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <allstarsnorks2_> ubuntuAPT: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[09:33] <jsonwhite> nope. it's commandline iirc
[09:33] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: I really struggle to understand how to move files around with a GUI
[09:33] <bn`> I get the 403 http error with a default apache2 installation on ubuntu and accessing the server IP in the browser without path. How to fix this?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> how do you know which little box is which?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> bn`: well, 403 is permission denied, isn't it?
[09:33] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, it's pseudo-graphics on the command line, like norton commander if you know that
[09:33] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, well with spin right you can fix the bad sectors and then with hard driver regenerator you can refresh the survace prett cool
[09:34] <gordonjcp> bn`: so maybe look at the logs and see if you can work out what it was trying to do
[09:34] <bn`> gordonjcp: yes why is the default installation with the "it works" index.html in it 403?
[09:34] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Ok, good to know thanks :)
[09:34] <gordonjcp> jeez, spinrite, there's a blast from the past
[09:34] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: let me ask, if i really really spent some time learning command line, how long would it take me to feel comfortable with it? right now I can't even mount a sharefolder in virtualbox (my starting point)
[09:34] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, if you don't yet have mouse support on your command line, check gpm
[09:35] <bn`> ok thx.. there..
[09:35] <GnubNix> Time to learn the terminal depends on the person. understanding the file system structure will help a lot though
[09:35] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, it's the other way around. it's about how much lifetime you waste clicking the same buttons again until you're frustrated and want to start automating stuff.
[09:37] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: well for me, it's about trying to get the right tools/ setting up a developing environment... trying to get into programming... also feel free to explain what would you even need to automate...
[09:39] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, to estimate years, may i ask how much time you can devote to learning programming? like, are you a student using evenings and weekends?
[09:39] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, the linux bible should help anyone learning the file stucture or hak5 video on it
[09:39] <TazmainianDevil> I meant the OS alt video on it
[09:40] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: yup student, can use evenings and weekends devoted to programming, to be frank, havent been too productive with my time
[09:40] <patsToms> morning, is there any way to take screen from Ubuntu login screen?
[09:41] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Well i don't mean that you have to be an expert, but just understanding that Linux doesn't use the WIndows system (C:, D:, E: ect.) And that / = root and how you would navigate through a directory, for example how you get to your home folder from the terminal...
[09:41] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Any book with lots of info would be good of course, but keeping it simple in the start is the best bet. Find a nice to the point tutorial on the net would be a good start
[09:42] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, i'd estimate it will take 2 years till you have a firm grasp, and ten years before you're on freenode irc average. the more you get into it, the more you will like to have a choice between GUI and CLI, and even start to combine them.
[09:42] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, for anyone that needs to understand it good tut : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qQTXp4rBEE
[09:42] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: it'll take you minutes to get your head around using the CLI
[09:43] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, you can speed up if you manage to delay visual gratification and fast-forward repeat the most important parts of computer hardware history, thereby learning how data processing evolved.
[09:43] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: everything takes "--help" as a parameter
[09:43] <gordonjcp> use it
[09:43] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Yea something like that would be good. http://bit.ly/cgHQxg that is also a good explanation of the file system.
[09:44] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: man pages are good too
[09:44] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, have you alrady selected which programming languages to start with?
[09:45] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: well learning python and webdev ( html, css, and mostly javascript)
[09:45] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, ok. for hints on JavaScript, come to #Node.js
[09:45] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil What's the linux bible :P
[09:46] <Sven_vB> i'll go there anyway now ;)
[09:46] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, its a book on linux guides you how to install it , and so on.
[09:46] <devians> hey, `sudo apt-get update` on my vagrant 12.04 amd64 vm gives me 'unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com'. it connects to security.ubuntu.com fine however
[09:46] <DarthDepa> reisio: well... good and bad notice... I successful install Ubuntu 13.10 Server, load the CD not in UEFI mode... And I seen all on the notebook screen...
[09:47] <DarthDepa> reisio: at reboot, I can see the GRUB, and load both Ubuntu and Windows
[09:47] <gr33n7007h> Any one know command for xchat to delay login something like /set irc_delay 10
[09:47] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, its a comprephensive tutorial resource
[09:47] <reisio> gr33n7007h: what for
[09:47] <DarthDepa> reisio: but at Ubuntu boot, it give me the same problem with screen :(
[09:47] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil is it this one? http://amzn.to/1fXGLy2
[09:47] <reisio> DarthDepa: don't frown on the internet
[09:48] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, yeah, but I see there is a few of them available now. different editons
[09:48] <TazmainianDevil> editions *
[09:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: ? what?
[09:49] <gr33n7007h> reisio, I need for when i'm autoconnecting
[09:49] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil ok cool
[09:49] <reisio> gr33n7007h: why
[09:51] <gr33n7007h> nvm, figured it out
[09:51] <ObrienDave> gr33n7007h, there is an auto join delay setting
[09:52] <reisio> congratulations on figuring out how to do something for no particular reason :p
[09:53] <gr33n7007h> irc_join_delay 10
[09:53] <reisio> gr33n7007h: what about it?
[09:53] <respond> Need info manual ubuntu
[09:54] <respond> Indonesia
[09:54] <respond> I need upgrade my samsung yo ubuntu mobile
[09:55] <respond> More info needed
[09:55] <respond> l
[09:55] <TazmainianDevil> respond, can you download it fro samsung now ?
[09:58] <DarthDepa> reisio: ?
[09:58] <makara> is juju a good idea?
[09:58] <reisio> DarthDepa: hi
[09:59] <DarthDepa> reisio: Hi :) Have you read?
[09:59] <reisio> makara: hard to see how
[09:59] <reisio> DarthDepa: read what?
[10:00] <makara> reisio, you wouldn't recommend?
[10:00] <DarthDepa> reisio: I successful install Ubuntu 13.10 Server, load the CD not in UEFI mode... And I seen all  on the notebook screen...
[10:00] <reisio> DarthDepa: yes I read that
[10:00] <TomyWork> assuming the config is correct, does "service ssh reload" interrupt any running sessions or cause any incoming connections to be denies?
[10:00] <DarthDepa> reisio: can you help me? :(
[10:00] <TomyWork> denied*
[10:00] <TomyWork> even for a split-second
[10:00] <reisio> TomyWork: I wouldn't think so, but easily tested
[10:01] <reisio> DarthDepa: my man, if I wanted to look at frowny faces, I would /join #upsetlittlegirls
[10:02] <ronin> do you still think my installation was fine http://codepad.org/LEQ2WOge
[10:02] <DarthDepa> reisio: ? I don't understand... :( "frowny" what is?
[10:02] <ObrienDave> oh boy
[10:13] <MajSlayer> is vsftpd a good ftp server?
[10:13] <MajSlayer> setting up a new server and am trying to find the best ftpd to setup..
[10:14] <reisio> MajSlayer: what's the use case?
[10:15] <MajSlayer> mainly to run a Red5 server for videostreaming, want a wat to upload files to my server, thats about it
[10:15] <MajSlayer> its a dedicated server, bare-bones as it gets
[10:15] <MajSlayer> so i'm looking for performance i guess
[10:16] <MajSlayer> I need to get Red5-RC1 on my server somehow, if i use the latest, it will fail with my software
[10:18] <MajSlayer> so yeah figure FTP is a good place to start, using ubuntu 13.10
[10:19] <reisio> MajSlayer: wat?
[10:19] <MajSlayer> what what? some comminication error?
[10:20] <diligent>  /ns register QAZWSXEDC123<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:21] <reisio> MajSlayer: you said 'wat'
[10:21] <MajSlayer> oh
[10:21] <ObrienDave> diligent, thanks for sharing your password ;))
[10:21] <bentinata> anyone know why ubuntu wont detect partition
[10:21] <bentinata> ?
[10:21] <MajSlayer> I just want to upload files to my server..
[10:22] <MajSlayer> sry.. been up late
[10:22] <bentinata> anyone know why ubuntu wont detect partition?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !patience|bentinata
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !details|bentinata,
[10:22] <MajSlayer> mainlt looking for a the best possible ftpd out there
[10:22] <bentinata> i know :)
[10:22] <diligent> sorry
[10:22] <ObrienDave> bentinata, what kind of partition?
[10:27] <bentinata> windows partition
[10:27] <bentinata> I'm uploading picture (it's my friend laptop)
[10:27] <ObrienDave> MBR? GPT? NTFS? FAT32?
[10:28] <bentinata> fat32
[10:28] <bentinata> http://i.imgur.com/3HpK981.png
[10:28] <bentinata> detected on nautilus
[10:28] <bentinata> but not in the installer
[10:30] <Rory> bentinata: Does this happen even after rebooting and trying the live usb/cd again?
[10:30] <bentinata> yep
[10:31] <luminous> hello! I have ubuntu setup in a virtualbox VM (actually, I have a couple). two are using bridged networking (on a debian host), one of these VM works fine with bridged networking. the other does not.. dmesg shows eth0 being there, ifconfig does not show it as configured. how should I go about debugging this on the VM?
[10:32] <Rory> bentinata: Did you check the integrity of the live media? There is an option to do this from the first menu that is available when you boot from the liveCD, you need to hit a key to see it when the keyboard icon is at the bottom of the screen
[10:32] <UrielVigilant> If iam able to move the joystick with jstest in ubuntu, then joystick is working doesn it and should work on compatible games doesn it »
[10:33] <bentinata> hmm, what key?
[10:33] <ObrienDave> UrielVigilant, that might depend on if the game supports YOUR joystick
[10:35] <UrielVigilant> ObrienDave : I can´t make my new joystick work with OnLIve under PlayOnLinux app. I think i must do it what a dont want, to reserve some disk and install Vista in my Laptop together with Lubuntu .
[10:36] <UrielVigilant> ObrienDAve : I am using Wine 1.5.8  in PlayOnLinux, that supposly should work with joystick , but  it doesn t .
[10:39] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: try actual wine
[10:41] <bentinata> oh yeah, it also undetected in gparted... and ofc, I cant mount it http://i.imgur.com/GQw47Ki.png
[10:42] <UrielVigilant> Ben64 Wine 1.7 don run OnLive streaming games software correctly . , i think is the most recent one Wine.
[10:49] <bentinata> everybody? ._.
[10:50] <codephobic> hi
[10:51] <bentinata> hi :D
[10:51] <codephobic> I think I've found a bug in xubuntu, not sure where to go for help in getting it resolved.
[10:52] <codephobic> the mouse scroll wheel doesn't work when trying to scroll pdfs or documents in gedit.
[10:53] <codephobic> It works fine with the browser and most of the other applications I've tested, just not with the pdf viewer application or with gedit.
[10:54] <codephobic> Works fine with sublime2, too.
[10:54] <codephobic> is there an underlying issue to this? something to do with unity/xfce?
[10:54] <Dat> how can I get sftp to load the /etc/profile?
[10:59] <Guest9203> what happens when we place software breakpoints in our source code
[11:02] <Guest9203> what happens when we place software breakpoints in our source code
[11:03] <yeyeman> how do I find out where JRE is installed?
[11:04] <Xintruder> hey
[11:04] <Ben64> yeyeman: which java
[11:04] <ronin> how could I know if a package x was installed properly or not with apt-get?
[11:05] <bentinata> yeyeman: /usr/lib/jvm/...
[11:05] <Ben64> ronin: apt-cache policy <package>
[11:05] <bentinata> if I'm not wrong :v
[11:05] <Guest9203> what happens when we place software breakpoints in our source code
[11:06] <ronin> if it says "isntalled" i assume everything was right even I got some java vm errors in the installation
[11:06] <UrielVigilant> I already have Lubuntu occupying all my hard drive, if i want a dual boot can i do it , simply reserving some space to window in HD and the install VIsta ?
[11:06] <Ben64> Guest9203: stop repeating so often, maybe give more info, maybe go to a programming channel?
[11:06] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: yep
[11:07] <yeyeman> the most difficult thing about java programming is figuring out how to set up eclipse
[11:07] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: you'd need to resize the ubuntu partition. and why in all that is holy would you install vista willingly?
[11:07] <bentinata> yeyeman: get eclipse in the eclipse siet
[11:08] <bentinata> yeyeman: if you want to code android, there's some bundle/ADT at android site
[11:08] <yeyeman> thanks
[11:08] <UrielVigilant> Ben64: I love OnLive because i have an old specs laptop, but i love ultimate games that run wonderfull with OnLive . The joystick dont work with OnLive in PlayonLinux as i said .
[11:09] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: install windows 7 if you must, but don't use vista, its the worst. and __try wine__ also check in #winehq
[11:10] <bentinata> Ben64: I like egg
[11:10] <UrielVigilant> Iam afraid Windows 7 dont run on m,y laptop. Vista is actually a little havy
[11:10] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: use xp :)
[11:10] <Ben64> 7 will work on anything vista will, and better
[11:10]  * ObrienDave can find a ME install disk somewhere ;))
[11:11] <Jeaton> not sure if it's a ubuntu problem, but ever since I went to 13.10, i cannot connect to steam's network
[11:11] <UrielVigilant> But i dont have conditions to invest on it for now .  Are you talking about  13.10 final version or beta 1 or beta 2?
[11:21] <UrielVigilant> bentinata : that was one of the major reason i left Vista to Lubuntu, the anti defragamentation system
[11:22] <bentinata> anyone can help me with partition problem?
[11:22] <UrielVigilant> bentinata : people say 5% to 10% disk free to dont slow down lubunt doesn it ?
[11:22] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: yep
[11:23] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: my ubuntu only had 6% disk free D:
[11:23] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: but, it's okay (must often use apt-get clean, tho :v )
[11:23] <SixAnon> hello guys can somebody help me out?
[11:24] <jony_easyrider> when in nautilus, can be opened a terminal window with the location where is nautilus?
[11:25] <bentinata> jony_easyrider: there's plugin for that somewhere
[11:25] <bentinata> jony_easyrider: I use thunar tho :3
[11:25] <repozitor> i installed ubuntu in virtual machine(vmware work station)
[11:25] <repozitor> but my ubuntu come up in CLI mode.
[11:26] <repozitor> how to enable GUI mode?
[11:26] <repozitor> or how to install GUI?
[11:27] <bentinata> repozitor: startx?
[11:27] <philinux> jony_easyrider: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:27] <bentinata> repozitor: or maybe alt+f7
[11:27] <bentinata> philinux: nah :D
[11:27] <philinux> jony_easyrider: then do nautilus -q
[11:27] <repozitor> bentinata, startx used for backtrack
[11:27] <repozitor> is this command usefull in ubuntu?
[11:28] <Ben64> not really
[11:28] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm start
[11:28] <k1l> dont use startx on ubuntu. start the desktopmanager like lightdm on ubuntu
[11:28] <bentinata> repozitor: don't know :v haven't go to CLI for a while
[11:28] <philinux> bentinata: that package is in 13.10
[11:28] <lvleph> I am not running unity, but I like the pretty windows provided by gnome-settings-daemon. However, this seems to start a compositor. How can I prevent compositing from starting?
[11:28] <repozitor> philinux, i tried to open nautilus, but hit error
[11:28] <repozitor> probably i forgot to use -q!
[11:28] <bentinata> philinux: what package?
[11:29] <philinux> nautilus-open-terminal
[11:29] <lvleph> repozitor, I use cli every day
[11:29] <k1l> repozitor: is a is a desktop installed?
[11:29] <bentinata> lvleph: MASTER!!! *bow
[11:29] <Rickardo_> I am trying to format my usb disk with mkfs.exe3 /dev/sdb and it works well.. but when I try to mount it I got mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:29] <repozitor> lvleph, i don't have any problem with CLI, my students can't use CLI
[11:29] <jony_easyrider> philinux, ty
[11:30] <Ben64> Rickardo_: you need to specify a mount location
[11:30] <lvleph> repozitor, I guess I am a mean professor and would make my students learn it.
[11:30] <jony_easyrider> philinux, it doesn't do anything when I execute nautilus -q
[11:31] <repozitor> lvleph, my students are so lazy
[11:31] <repozitor> that's too bad
[11:31] <lvleph> repozitor, so are everyone's students
[11:31] <seba4> hi to all. I got a question.  I was trying to reinstall rvm passenger ... i deleted everything..
[11:31] <seba4> but not there is a problem i can ssh to server some talking TeamSpeak server works
[11:31] <seba4> but i cant connect to pages from server
[11:32] <Xintruder> can i play windows games on ubuntu?
[11:32] <seba4> nslookup google.com says connection timed out ...
[11:32] <bentinata> Xintruder: most of them with wine
[11:32] <philinux> jony_easyrider: oh yes it does. now right click in an empty space in nautilus ;)
[11:32] <Myrtti> Xintruder: depends on the game
[11:32] <Jeaton> not sure if anyone answered my question since I pinged out, but is anyone able to get onto steam's network using ubuntu 13.10?
[11:32] <bentinata> aaaaaandd no one can help me with partition :'(
[11:32] <lvleph> !wine | Xintruder
[11:32] <philinux> jony_easyrider: you might like this for your work flow http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/install-nemo-with-unity-patches-and.html
[11:32] <jony_easyrider> philinux, TY, it worked ;)
[11:32] <seba4> anyone knows what could it be?
[11:33] <philinux> jony_easyrider: welcome
[11:33] <Xintruder> can i run all windows games on ubuntu?
[11:33] <theadmin> Xintruder: No
[11:33] <wheatthin> Xintruder, go to that link and you'll see a compadibilty list
[11:33] <bentinata> Xintruder: maybe no, no
[11:33] <k1l> !wine | Xintruder
[11:33] <ORGANasm> Hey
[11:33] <theadmin> Xintruder: You can run *some* of them successfully, but definetly not all.
[11:34] <lvleph> !steam | Xintruder
[11:34] <lvleph> They are even making steamos
[11:34] <theadmin> lvleph: ...which is just another remix of Ubuntu anyway
[11:34] <theadmin> lvleph: ;)
[11:34] <seba4> ok just saw dns was missing
[11:35] <lvleph> Ubuntu is just a remix of Debian lol
[11:35] <lvleph> sorry I had to
[11:35] <lvleph> I am not running unity, but I like the pretty windows provided by gnome-settings-daemon. However, this seems to start a compositor. How can I prevent compositing from starting?
[11:35] <theadmin> lvleph: Well, not really, no. Ubuntu has its own repositories, packages, and so on and so forth, it evolved a lot and it's not compatible with Debian. This SteamOS on the other hand will likely just have different preinstalled packages.
[11:36] <lvleph> theadmin, it was a joke
[11:36] <theadmin> lvleph: Ah, okay, wasn't sure.
[11:36] <lvleph> I have been using Ubuntu since 2006
[11:36] <wheatthin> lvleph, try installing ccsm and disable what plugins you don't want launching to a minimal compositor
[11:36] <lvleph> wheatthin, thankyou
[11:36] <theadmin> lvleph: The "pretty windows" are provided by Compiz, which is both the compositor and the window manager Ubuntu uses, it's a two-in-one thing.
[11:36] <theadmin> lvleph: So...
[11:37] <bentinata> still working on partition, btw, anyone know how to use fixparts?
[11:37] <lvleph> theadmin, I just won't the colors
[11:37] <lvleph> want*
[11:37] <bentinata> or gdisk?
[11:37] <theadmin> lvleph: Ah. Well, as wheatthin said install "compizconfig-settings-manager" (click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/compizconfig-settings-manager ) and run it, then find the parts you do not want and uncheck them.
[11:38] <codephobic> hi, is this channel a good place to ask after xubuntu solutions?
[11:38] <theadmin> codephobic: Most of the time yes, but #xubuntu exists as well.
[11:39] <theadmin> codephobic: If something is specific for Xubuntu, you'll find a better answer there likely, but if it's a generic question, this channel is just fine
[11:39] <UrielVigilant> Xintruder: Install PLayOnLinux from software center , then install OnLive with Wine 1.5.8 plug in your joystick and tell me if it work there to play with joystick some game for joystick. please
[11:39] <codephobic> theadmin, thanks I'll try there first. It seems to be a specific bug with xubuntu.
[11:40] <UrielVigilant> Xintruder: you do all that stuf under PlayOnLinux app.
[11:41] <lvleph> hmmm ccsm says compositing isn't on but ps afx | grep unity-system-compositor
[11:41] <lvleph>  3884 pts/1    S+     0:00      \_ grep unity-system-compositor
[11:41] <yeyeman> how do I open hidden folders in the file manager?
[11:41] <theadmin> lvleph: ...you just found your grep :P
[11:41] <ObrienDave> !ask | SixAnon
[11:41] <yeyeman> it won't allow me to type in the path anywhere
[11:42] <lvleph> lol theadmin I need to pay more attention
[11:42] <theadmin> yeyeman: Hit Ctrl+L to go to a specific location. Ctrl+H to show all hidden stuff.
[11:42] <Xintruder> what command to fully upgrade ubuntu?
[11:42] <lvleph> the glaring grep should have clued me into that theadmin
[11:42] <Rickard__> Ben64: In the mount cmd?
[11:42] <theadmin> Xintruder: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade all the software. sudo do-release-upgrade will do a Ubuntu version upgrade.
[11:43] <bentinata> my friend partition has 4 logical partition
[11:43] <yeyeman> theadmin, thanks. It's puzzling why they have hidden this from the user.
[11:43] <bentinata> *primary
[11:43] <bentinata> how can I install ubuntu?
[11:43] <theadmin> yeyeman: They haven't, it's in the menus as well
[11:43] <theadmin> yeyeman: View -> Show hidden files and Go -> Location
[11:43] <theadmin> yeyeman: Keyboard shortcuts are just more... convenient
[11:43] <UrielVigilant> Yesterday because after uninstall a software center app game, the item doesnt disappear from menu i did typed on terminal : killall lxpanel : then typed : find ~/.cache/menus -name '*' -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm ; then typed : lxpanel -p LXDE & and then typed : lxpanelctl restart , then things come worses. Then i typed sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, and the menu appear like.....new.....a
[11:43] <UrielVigilant> gain. then i uninstalled the app with sinatic and the item finally disappear from menu. The correctly way should be: install Kubuntu DEsktop and from there login : sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop : and the install lubuntu desktop again , then login to lubuntu desktop again and then remove Kubuntu desktop ?
[11:44] <UrielVigilant> i was with Lubuntu 13.10
[11:44] <ObrienDave> instant headache ;))
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilant: removing metapackags does not remove it's contents
[11:45] <jony_easyrider> how can I copy only two files from a folder in terminal?
[11:45] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: is there a support question somewhere in there?
[11:45] <lvleph> anyone a good how to on booting into Ubuntu using CSM mode for a Mac?
[11:46] <lvleph> have*
[11:46] <theadmin> jony_easyrider: cp folder/{file1,file2} destination
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: beat me to it
[11:47] <Xintruder> u guys are official support channel?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilant: if you have another DE installed and want to remove the LXDE packages you can you run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove lxde openbox leafpad      and the rest wil be removed for you
[11:47] <Ben64> Xintruder: for ubuntu, yes
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Xintruder: for all canonical releases
[11:48] <Xintruder> Sorry for my question, u get paid? you are employees?
[11:48] <ObrienDave> no
[11:48] <theadmin> Xintruder: Yes, but hardly any of us actually work for the Ubuntu team, we're volunteers
[11:48] <theadmin> Xintruder: No, we don't get paid or anything
[11:48] <UrielVigilant> ActionParsnip : The poin of the question is, if i was with Lxde Lubuntu desktop, with problems that i caused to it , but i was with it , and then and reinstalled it again with out purge it the old one, that means i have now duplicated files or something like that, bad for Lubuntu perfomance or so ?
[11:48] <rampageRipper> i get this message so often lately:
[11:48] <rampageRipper>  Could not exec dpkg!
[11:48] <rampageRipper>  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)
[11:49] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: none of what you showed there duplicates files
[11:49] <ObrienDave> UrielVigilant, no, there should not be duplicate files to worry about
[11:49] <UrielVigilant> Thank you booth 1
[11:55] <jony_easyrider> theadmin, ty
[11:57] <robin__> Hi folks, has anyone experience installing ubuntu on a macbook 4.1 ?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !mac
[11:59] <Freeman__> hello
[11:59] <Freeman__> hello everyone
[11:59] <robin__> thanks ubootu i already saw that
[11:59] <dracarys> installing ubuntu on a mac?
[12:00] <dracarys> why would you even attempt something like that
[12:00] <Freeman__> how to give static ip on ubuntu 13.10?
[12:00] <robin__> because there are no more updates on the OS
[12:00] <dracarys> you know there's about as much support as trying to get an iPhone to run iOS right?
[12:01] <dracarys> err
[12:01] <dracarys> getting an iPhone to run Android
[12:01] <theadmin> Freeman__: click the network icon -> edit connections -> choose yours -> click "Edit" -> IPv4 Settings
[12:02] <Freeman__> theadmin: let me try this thanks
[12:03] <robin__> dracarys you want me to keep you up to date how it works? i think its really interesting project
[12:04] <dracarys> robin__: Linux on MacBooks is nothing but a time sinker
[12:04] <dracarys> you're better off hackintoshing later versions of Mac OS X to run on that old machine
[12:04] <bazhang> !ot | dracarys
[12:05] <theadmin> Earlier versions of Ubuntu (pre-Unity, up to 10.04 for sure) used to play a drum sound on login. Where could I find this sound?
[12:05] <dracarys> bazhang: I run both Ubuntu and Mac OS X, so I've done all the research robin__ has done, and a bit more on the subject
[12:05] <dracarys> my conclusion is, it's not worth the time to try and get Ubuntu to run properly on the macbook platform
[12:05] <dracarys> and I'm typing this on a macbook pro
[12:06] <bazhang> dracarys, take the chat to another channel please
[12:06] <Freeman__> theadmin: do we have to do anything in the routes option that appears under  the edit connections option :)
[12:06] <theadmin> Freeman__: Not sure, you'd have to ask your ISP about that. If you aren't told, then probably no.
[12:06] <Freeman__> theadmin: this is a local network no iSP involved
[12:07] <codephobic> is there a solution to the mouse-wheel scrolling problem in gEdit and in pdf viewer? Most applications seem to work fine with the mouse-wheel but gEdit & the pdf viewer (document viewer?) don't seem to even notice it scrolling.
[12:07] <theadmin> Freeman__: Ah. Then probably not... You know, it's weird but I never dealt with static IPs, so don't take my word on this.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> dracarys, I've never installed ubuntu on a mac, but as I understand it, it can be done.  best source of info is the link above and the ubuntu forums for mac.
[12:07] <codephobic> (nobody seems to be around at #xubuntu)
[12:07] <Freeman__> theadmin: anyone who knows anything about static ip ? Can you refer someone ?
[12:08] <codephobic> In Xubuntu, is there a solution to the mouse-wheel scrolling problem in gEdit and in pdf viewer? Most applications seem to work fine with the mouse-wheel but gEdit & the pdf viewer (document viewer?) don't seem to even notice it scrolling.
[12:08] <glitsj16> codephobic: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1171342 yet? looks like you might be affected .. there's mention of a PPA with a fix
[12:09] <codephobic> thanks glitsj16 will just have a read now.
[12:09] <Freeman__> theadmin: are you noob ?
[12:09] <codephobic> btw, is it advisable to add ppas?
[12:09] <bazhang> !noob | Freeman__
[12:10] <theadmin> Freeman__: That kind of language isn't to be used here. No, not really. I know Linux pretty well, but... I've just always used static DHCP on my router for that kind of a thing
[12:10] <Freeman__> theadmin: sorry brother :)
[12:10] <theadmin> Freeman__: So eh. We all have white spots in our knowledge.
[12:10] <bazhang> codephobic, PPA are not advised, some are less problematic than others though, for example handbrake
[12:11] <bazhang> !ppa | codephobic
[12:11] <leosam> i tried to install the ubuntu touch emulator on soucy and had some problems, can i ask for help here?
[12:11] <bazhang> leosam, in #ubuntu-touch please
[12:11] <leosam> ok thx
[12:11] <AlanBell> theadmin: canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login"
[12:12] <theadmin> AlanBell: Thanks, I meant the actual file though, but I found it under /usr/share/sounds/desktop-login.ogg already. Thanks though!
[12:12] <theadmin> AlanBell: ...err. /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
[12:14] <nopcall> I have a old IDE HDD. Should i format it to ext4 or ext3 to install Debian?
[12:14] <nopcall> 40G
[12:14] <theadmin> nopcall: ...Debian isn't supported here at all, ask in #debian
[12:14] <bazhang> nopcall, ask in #debian
[12:14] <cfhowlett> !touch
[12:14] <nopcall> sorry..
[12:15] <antony> Can any point me in the direction of Linux Mint help it used to be added to favourites
[12:15] <DJones> !mint | antony
[12:15] <[Gentoo]> i think its a diferent network
[12:16] <bazhang> it is
[12:16] <antony> ubottu, ok thankyou
[12:16] <[Gentoo]> why dont they use freenode
[12:16] <bazhang> they have a small channel on freenode
[12:17] <k1l> [Gentoo]: that is not our business. they are free to give support where they want.
[12:17] <antony> ubottu, i cant find spotchat.org on network list
[12:17] <[Gentoo]> k1l: ok i werent complaining
[12:18] <[Gentoo]> antony: /connect irc.spotchat.org then /join linuxmint-help
[12:21] <loa> it can't be so hard...
[12:22] <cfhowlett> eh?
[12:24] <sandman13> how to remove xfce4 desktop  environment in ubuntu?
[12:24] <[Gentoo]> apt-get remove
[12:24] <[Gentoo]> the package
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: sudo apt-get --purge remove xfce4
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> are prge and remove needed together?
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> just asking
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: its an old habit, still works :)
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> ok
[12:26] <sandman13> ActionParsnip is there a way to reset all the settings of xfce4? removing didn't help
[12:26] <[Gentoo]> would it not be easier for apt-get remove to ask if you want to completely remove instead of having purge?
[12:26] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, sandman13 xfce4 is just a metapackage. The dependencies must be removed manually
[12:27] <philinux> sandman13: now do sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:27] <sandman13> varunendra i did this to remove http://paste.ubuntu.com/6453005/
[12:28] <philinux> sandman13: if that does not then check xfce4 deps and remove in synaptic
[12:28] <IncrediblePony> Hello everyone
[12:28] <[Gentoo]> hi
[12:29] <IncrediblePony> I need some assistance with a boot-repair
[12:29] <sandman13> philinux when i remove xfce4 the background image of login screen is set to default is that normal?
[12:30] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to tell me what I should do when I've run the boot-repair and I get the Boot-info text file? :) - cus I have no idea what to do with that information
[12:31] <ovrflw0x> When I do "echo DIGD > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and switch to _only_ Laptop's screen I _can_ change laptop screen's "brightness". But, when I do "echo DDIS > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and turn both on External monitor and laptop's screen, laptop's screen becomes "Very Bright" and I cannot decrease its brightness. So, how to change laptop screen's brightness when using discrete card using "echo DDIS >..."
[12:31] <profligacy> Is FreeBSD better than Ubuntu?
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> yes
[12:32] <profligacy> Why?
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> because
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> it is
[12:32] <IncrediblePony> lol
[12:32] <varunendra> sandman13, you have purged 9 items, while "apt-cache show xfce4" shows me 12 dependencies, including xfce4-settings (purging which I suspect may reset your background)
[12:33] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to tell me what I should do when I've run the boot-repair and I get the Boot-info text file? :) - cus I have no idea what to do with that information
[12:33] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], cmon freebsd is good in some ways and like mint it good in others
[12:33] <[Gentoo]> TazmainianDevil: theyre entirely different
[12:33] <[Gentoo]> stupid question to ask
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !ot
[12:33] <sandman13> varunendra when i reinstall the package i get the same old settings for the desktop any clue why?
[12:33] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], haha true, each has its application
[12:34] <TazmainianDevil> like a heli and a car
[12:34] <cfhowlett> sandman13 to remove program completely you have to purge ...
[12:34] <cfhowlett> apt-get purge program-name
[12:35] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], what is the diff between distrobution and iso freebsd download ?
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> dno what you mean
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> theres bootonly, full iso etc
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> none of its on topic lol
[12:36] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], sorry I know its off topic lol just gonna try freebsd
[12:37] <varunendra> sandman13, no idea why. But you may have to purge all the dependencies as cfhowlett said.
[12:37] <blurkis> how to temporarly turn off java in firefox?
[12:37] <sandman13> cfhowlett: what i did was "sudo apt-get --purge remove xfce4" and it said no such package
[12:38] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to tell me what I should do when I've run the boot-repair and I get the Boot-info text file? :) - cus I have no idea what to do with that information
[12:38] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get purge xfce4
[12:39] <philinux> sandman13: run this to show what needs to be removed apt-cache showpkg xfce4
[12:40] <cfhowlett> sandman13, and if you've already remove it ... it's gone.  to kill the config folders you need to run apt-get purge at the moment of removing your program.
[12:40] <varunendra> cfhowlett, it is just a metapackage as per "apt-cache show xfce4"
[12:41] <varunendra> sandman13, this gives me a clear list of dependencies : apt-cache show xfce4 | grep Depends | cut -d " " -f 2- | sed 's/, /\n/g' | cut -d " " -f 1
[12:42] <SupaYoshi> does anybody know why cups is not counting the pages?
[12:42] <SupaYoshi> that a file is?
[12:43] <SupaYoshi> when printing it, it just tells me everything is 1 page, even whe its not
[12:43] <sandman13> varunendra got the list and i should remove them isn't it?
[12:43] <andreiiar> Am o zona DNS da? Daca am un hostname care arata catre mai multe ip-uri, cand se face rotirea? Adica daca intreb de doua ori la rand, o data imi raspunde ca andrei.com e <IP_ADDRESS> si a doua oara <IP_ADDRESS> ???
[12:44] <varunendra> sandman13, I've never done it myself, just guessing logically :). Short answer - yes, I think so
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !it
[12:44] <varunendra> sandman13, and not 'remove', you should 'purge' them
[12:44] <andreiiar> Excusame pero parle Romano!
[12:44] <philinux> sandman13: yep sudo apt-get purge packagename as varunendra suggests
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    does the printer have a make and model?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: why have you not given this detail already?
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> em
[12:45] <philinux> sandman13: the sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:45] <andreiiar> And it was a crude mistake. I mean I put the speak in other channel.
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> cus i didnt know ActionParsnip
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> the output is empty ActionParsnip
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l is all it says
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: that's not empty then, is it?
[12:45] <jianwu> hello
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: what is the make and model of the printer please?
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> in cups it says make and model: Samsung CLP-320 Series
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, thanks so mcuh so far.. sorry im a bit clueless on what info to provide
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: how did you install the printer? or did it autodetect and configure?
[12:46] <Krapulat> I'm trying to update nginx adding the ppa and with "apt-get install nginx" and at the end of installation I get: "Configuring nginx (1.4.1-1ppa1~lucid) ... | krapulat@Frases:~# nginx -v  | nginx version: nginx/1.0.14". Does anybody know why?
[12:46] <SavantSv_d> What do you think of SuperSoup for a nick?
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> Through cups, autodetect
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> It prints, verything works ;) just... it doesnt count pages.. which is a shame
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: are there any bugs reported?
[12:47] <sandman13> philinux: help me with this list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6453093/
[12:47] <Krapulat> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: and do you use a GUI based OS with mouse pointer and Firefox web browser?
[12:47] <sandman13> philinux: is there anything that depends upon these items?
[12:47] <ovrflw0x> When I do "echo DIGD > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and switch to _only_ Laptop's screen I _can_ change laptop screen's "brightness". But, when I do "echo DDIS > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and turn both on External monitor and laptop's screen, laptop's screen becomes "Very Bright" and I cannot decrease its brightness. So, how to change laptop screen's brightness when using discrete card using "echo DDIS >..."
[12:47] <Krapulat> ActionParsnip: Nope. It's a server.
[12:48] <philinux> sandman13: just purge them one by one in terminal
[12:48] <SupaYoshi> in? /var/log/cups/page_log?
[12:48] <philinux> sandman13: if they already gone it will say so
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: did you use this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/stable ?
[12:49] <sandman13> philinux: says the package is not installed
[12:49] <philinux> sandman13: ok do them all
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: or this PPA https://launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/nginx-stable-testing?field.series_filter=lucid ?
[12:49] <Krapulat> ActionParsnip: I used this: "add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable"
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !info nginx lucid
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[12:50] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, no bugs
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: I suggest you report one
[12:51] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, there are no errors in /var/log/cups/error_log and printing works fine, just page count doesnt work
[12:52] <philinux> SupaYoshi: what exactly do you mean by not counting pages
[12:52] <philinux> just to be clear
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> well, when i pritn any document from any pc
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> it always tells me that the amount of pages is 1
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> and never more then 1, even when it pritns like 50 pages...
[12:52] <philinux> SupaYoshi: ah right gotcha so this is a network printer
[12:53] <SupaYoshi> yes! :D
[12:53] <SupaYoshi> but installed with usb on cups
[12:53] <SupaYoshi> and then the computers print through cubs, on the usb printer :)
[12:53] <philinux> SupaYoshi: what does the print preview show
[12:55] <sandman13> philinux: none of them are installed
[12:55] <Xeno-Genesis> I would like to confirm if somebody else is having a bug that I'm experiencing with Unity's global menu
[12:55] <philinux> sandman13: ok then I would logout or reboot
[12:55] <Xeno-Genesis> when I depress Alt in any GTK+ application, the menu entries do not display on top
[12:55] <Xeno-Genesis> it does work on Firefox and Thunderbird though
[12:55] <sandman13> philinux: let's see
[12:56] <philinux> SupaYoshi: also can you specify like print only page number 7 for instance and it does print the specified page
[12:56] <tilerendering> how can I force ubuntu to delete a partition no matter wtf process is using it - I m sick of getting "device is busy" - I dont care. disconnect al processes using it, whoever does, override whatever restrictions, just delete the partition
[12:56] <tilerendering> even fuser -km doesnt work
[12:56] <xangua> !language | tilerendering
[12:56] <tilerendering> that device is always "busy"
[12:57] <sandman13> philinux: logged out and logged in
[12:57] <cfhowlett> tilerendering, boot gparted and edit partitions to your heart's content
[12:57] <tilerendering> boot gparted ? what do you mean.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !gparted
[12:58] <Xeno-Genesis> tilerendering, the device is busy because there's at least one partition still mounted
[12:58] <tilerendering> THANKS
[12:58] <tilerendering> xeno: cant be, tried unmount etc.
[12:58] <tilerendering> it just wont let me unmount because there is always "some" process using it
[12:58] <Xeno-Genesis> tilerendering, I mean, another partition in the same device must be still mounted
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:58] <cfhowlett> also available on the ubuntu ISO, so if you boot that ...    no active partitions will be mounted and you can do what you want
[12:58] <tilerendering> but I do not care who is using it. I m admin, unmount anad delete
[12:59] <tilerendering> cfhowlett: that´s the brute force solution, thanks for that already. but there msut be anotehr solution
[12:59] <sandman13> philinux: that means when i reinstall the package then the previous desktop settings of xfce4 would not be saved right?
[12:59] <Xeno-Genesis> tilerendering, you can delete the partition using fdisk, for example, but it will not successfully reload the partition table if there's a partition still mounted in the device
[12:59] <dyu> is the brightness problem on 13.10 fixed?
[12:59] <xangua> dyu: no
[13:00] <xangua> if you mean gnome3/unity
[13:00] <dyu> xangua: any idea on when it's getting fixed? i'm on xfce/xmonad. it might be just an ubuntu problem.
[13:01] <dyu> thinking about just reinstalling 12.04, but it's too drastic. if a fix is around the corner, i'll just gut it out til then
[13:01] <xangua> dyu: is a gnome problem
[13:01] <tilerendering> cfhowlett: gparted worked ! thanks
[13:01] <cfhowlett> tilerendering, have fun, be safe.
[13:04] <Xeno-Genesis> would someone do me a favor a launch a GTK+ app like gedit, and then depress the ALT key and tell me if the global menu shows up for the application?
[13:04] <Xeno-Genesis> the only way to show the menu on my system is to type ALT+F10
[13:04] <Xeno-Genesis> if I just depress ALT the menu does not display
[13:05] <Xeno-Genesis> it only displays in Firefox and Thunderbird when I depress ALT
[13:05] <Xeno-Genesis> I wonder if it's isolated to my system
[13:06] <philinux> sandman13: not experienced installing xfce4
[13:06] <sandman13> philinux okay anyway thanks for the help
[13:07] <philinux> dyu: what is this brightness problem
[13:07] <philinux> sandman13: no worries
[13:07] <whybeing> <<why can't open .deb files. Terminal shows "Processing triggers for man-db">>
[13:08] <dyu> philinux: i can't adjust it. only happened when i updated to 13.10. it's always on full brightness
[13:08] <Azerus> are there any working packages for Squid3.2 / Squid3.3 for the current LTS?
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> I am printing from Windows, print previews shows page 7 only
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> and in the jobs center on cups it says: 1 page printed
[13:10] <philinux> dyu: must be hardware specific I guess. I've an acer 1410 and Fn Brightness works as it should
[13:10] <cobalt237> I'm experiencing a bug where the system sometimes reboots when the shutdown dialog is brought up
[13:10] <Rory> Azerus: The version in the 12.04 repositories is 3.1 I think
[13:10] <cobalt237> Is there a good log I could see for debugging what is triggering the restart?
[13:10] <Rory> !info squid3 precise
[13:10] <Azerus> Rory, yeah I see that. IT apparently does not have HTTP/1.1 support either, need at least squid3.2
[13:11] <philinux> SupaYoshi: seems to be a windows thing http://community.kde.org/Printing/CUPS/FAQ#Why_is_CUPS_page-accounting_not_working_with_Windows_clients.3F
[13:12] <sandman13> philinux is it safe to delete xfce4 folder from .config if there is no xfce4
[13:12] <philinux> sandman13: of course
[13:12] <Rory> Azerus: You can download the source to 3.3 and compile it on ubuntu http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/CompilingSquid#Debian.2C_Ubuntu
[13:12] <philinux> SupaYoshi: do a net search for "Why is CUPS page-accounting not working with Windows clients"
[13:12] <sandman13> philinux: how to check what desktop environment are installed currently?
[13:13] <philinux> sandman13: look at the login screen sessions available - under the Gear icon
[13:13] <cobalt237> I've seen this bug reported (bug #1170783) and was trying to be proactive debugging it myself
[13:14] <philinux> dyu: what laptop u running
[13:14] <dyu> philinux: hp dm1. it's a netbook
[13:15] <philinux> dyu: is there a bug report for that model
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dyu, netbooks may find xubuntu and lubuntu more to their liking - lighter requirements
[13:16] <sandman13> philinux: there's a folder named thunar should i remove it too?
[13:16] <philinux> sandman13: sure why not it's not needed
[13:16] <rampageRipper> i get this message so often lately : http://dpaste.com/1476980/
[13:16] <dyu> philinux: haven't checked. just googled for "ubuntu 13.10 brightness not working" and was under the impression that it was very common
[13:16] <k2t1> hello :D
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> When I do "echo DIGD > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and switch to _only_ Laptop's screen I _can_ change laptop screen's "brightness". But, when I do "echo DDIS > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and turn both on External monitor and laptop's screen, laptop's screen becomes "Very Bright" and I cannot decrease its brightness. So, how to change laptop screen's brightness when using discrete card using "echo DDIS >..."
[13:17] <dyu> cfhowlett: i'm using xfce and xmonad. even if it's just xmonad, the problem is still there. also, it's not a matter of requirements. it's the brightness setting
[13:17] <Azerus> https://launchpad.net/~pdffs/+archive/squid-stable
[13:17] <k2t1> kdxfs
[13:17] <Azerus> are repos from that site reputable?
[13:17] <philinux> dyu try just hp dm1 brightness not working ;)
[13:17] <k2t1> This is Poland and we are taking this internet!
[13:17] <k2t1__> yes
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Azelphur, if it has a launchpad presence, I'd say yes ...
[13:17] <k2t1_> sadf
[13:18] <k2t1_> o kurwa
[13:18] <blurkis> i installed a plugin to deactivate javascript in ff.  it sort of worked. deactivated js, but could not activate again.  removing the plugin left me with ff without js :(   any idee?
[13:18] <k2t1__> dan ie chuj
[13:18] <k2t1_> chyba ty
[13:18] <k2t1__> ]danbiel chuj
[13:18] <DJones> k2t1__: Please stop that
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !pl|k2t1,
[13:18] <philinux> dyu:> seems a problem in the wild too not just ubuntu
[13:18] <k2t1__> ok
[13:18] <k2t1_> ohohohohoho
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <FloodBot1> k2t1__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1> fg
[13:18] <k2t1_> CO to co to
[13:18] <k2t1_> co to kurwa jest?
[13:18] <Knoxx> łęeee
[13:18] <SeQ> Cipki
[13:18] <k2t1> łęęęęę
[13:18] <SeQ> <3
[13:18] <Knoxx> nooob
[13:18] <k2t1_> ohohohohooh
[13:18] <Jezus> łęeeee
[13:18] <Knoxx> hahahahha
[13:18] <Jezus> Penisy
[13:18] <Jezus> XD
[13:19] <Knoxx> kutasy
[13:19] <SeQ> <3
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !ops
[13:19] <suppagga> what do i type in terminal to find out what's my display manager?
[13:19] <Knoxx> hjahahahhahhh
[13:19] <FloodBot1> Knoxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <k2t1> dfg
[13:19] <Knoxx> yeah
[13:19] <SeQ> hahahaha
[13:19] <k2t1__> KURWY szmaty
[13:19] <SeQ> Ciiiiiiipy!
[13:19] <k2t1__> wypierdalać karmić knury
[13:19] <Knoxx> co tam nooby
[13:19] <ObrienDave> must be all the same clown
[13:19] <Jezus> what's up, men ?
[13:19] <chuj> kurewa
[13:19] <n008> how do I wrap all words in quote using gedit or vi ?
[13:19] <Jezus> must be chuj Ci w dupe.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, clown or clan ...
[13:20] <k2t1> nothing man :D
[13:20] <Jezus> Co ja.
[13:20] <n008> its a column of words separated by comma ?
[13:20] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> KURWA
[13:20] <Bur> HAHAHA
[13:20] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> siema bur
[13:20] <ObrienDave> all the same provider
[13:20] <rwc2> 'access-your-private-data.desktop' says 'has no type=...entry' ... didn't see an answer on google.  any suggestions?
[13:20] <philinux> suppagga:> type in env
[13:21] <dyu> philinux: ugh. you're right. seems like a driver problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/310812/last-couple-of-fglrx-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04-have-backlight-support-broken
[13:21] <philinux> dyu:> indeed
[13:22] <suppagga> philinux: dyu?
[13:22] <philinux> suppagga:> type in env in the terminal
[13:22] <rwc2> ah, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=92510
[13:23] <suppagga> philinux: i did, it looks like it's lightdm. strange i thought lubuntu had lxdm. what is dyu?
[13:23] <philinux> suppagga@: should show you what you need
[13:23] <suppagga> philinux: forgot to say thank you :)
[13:23] <philinux> suppagga@: dyu is another user in here
[13:23] <dyu> suppagga: i'm a dayu
[13:23] <dyu> suppagga: i'm a dyu
[13:24] <suppagga> ok
[13:24] <philinux> suppagga@: see this for more info http://askubuntu.com/questions/72549/how-to-determine-which-window-manager-is-running
[13:25] <suppagga> does the presence/absence of the guest session depend on the display manager? some dms have it others dont?
[13:25] <iBog> Hello all
[13:25] <cfhowlett> iBog, greetings
[13:25] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[13:25] <philinux> suppagga@: not sure
[13:25] <sandman13> philinux how do i hide folders?
[13:25] <iBog> Any know the best way to upgrade php?
[13:25] <philinux> suppagga@: I wouldnt have thought so though
[13:26] <philinux> sandman13@: rename with a dot . at the front
[13:26] <Nach0z> hey guys, is there a way I can tell apt-get to install specific libraries to a different directory?
[13:26] <jrib> iBog: why?
[13:26] <iBog> Jrib because it's old an insecure
[13:27] <rwc2> any thoughts?
[13:27] <suppagga> all should have the guest session. it's very useful. I LOVE GUEST SESSION
[13:27] <jrib> iBog: what ubuntu version are you using?
[13:27] <suppagga> :)
[13:27] <iBog> 10.10
[13:27] <sandman13> philinux: folders of linux live usb
[13:27] <xangua> iBog: it's old and insecure
[13:27] <jrib> iBog: your problem is that you are using an unsupported ubuntu release.  Upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu
[13:27] <jrib> !10.10 | iBog
[13:27] <suppagga> alrighty bye bye :)
[13:27] <cfhowlett> iBog, unsupported as in END OF LIFE
[13:28] <iBog> Kris thanks.  Can I just manually download php and install it ?
[13:28] <philinux> sandman13@: should be same - a dot at front hides stuff ctrl h shows them
[13:28] <iBog> Jrib ^
[13:28] <sandman13> philinx thanks
[13:28] <jrib> iBog: you need to upgrade your OS.  Your OS is insecure since it's no longer getting security updates.  Either upgrade (/msg ubottu eolupgrades) or fresh install 12.04 or 13.10
[13:28] <iBog> Jrib: I'll
[13:29] <aptget> hello
[13:29] <iBog> Plan an os upgrade but need to upgrade php first
[13:29] <cfhowlett> aptget, greetings
[13:29] <aptget> newbie here
[13:29] <cfhowlett> iBog that makes NO sense.  you can and should upgrade before worry about php
[13:29] <jrib> iBog: doesn't make sense to do that imho.  You would just have a new php version with an unsupported OS.  Just upgrade your OS and kill two birds....
[13:30] <iBog> So how do I do an os upgrade?
[13:30] <iBog> That just sounds like a disaster
[13:30] <cfhowlett> iBog, at this stage, download the 12.04 iso, make a usb and clean install
[13:31] <jrib> iBog: if you upgrade from 10.10 you need to upgrade to 11.04, then to 11.10, then to 12.04 LTS (and then keep going if you want to reach 13.10). I'd advise a backup and fresh install at this point.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> iBog, you can make a /home partition to save your data in first, though
[13:32] <iBog> So I can't just install a new version of php?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> would you put a new engine in a car with no tires, broken axle and busted windows?
[13:32] <jrib> iBog: sure, you can.  But as we've told you a half-dozen times now, you would still be running an old, insecure, and unsupported EVERYTHING ELSE ON YOUR OS
[13:33] <bipul> php?
[13:33] <bipul> iBog, why you would download new php for upgrading your OS?
[13:34] <iBog> Jrib: im ok with an older os only need to update php
[13:34]  * cfhowlett backs away from the thread ...
[13:34] <jrib> iBog: it's not that the OS is old.  It's that it is unsupported: i.e. no security updates
[13:34] <iBog> Bipul I only want to update php
[13:35] <iBog> Kris doing an os upgrade sounds like more work.  I need to update php ASAP
[13:35] <jrib> iBog: the OS should have been updated months ago
[13:35] <iBog> And then plan the os upgrade
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !php
[13:35] <jrib> iBog: this is something I would do ASAP
[13:35] <gelson> Chapecó
[13:35] <philinux> iBog;~ a new php most likely will have dependencies that are newer too
[13:35] <gelson> #Chapecó
[13:36] <cfhowlett> gelson, /join #chapeco
[13:36] <iBog> Jrib true.  It wasn't and now I have to come up with a plan.  Php update is critical due to a security issue
[13:36] <cfhowlett> iBog, you're running 10.10.  you haven't had a security update since ... years.  but PHP is your security priority?  OK then
[13:37] <jrib> iBog: my advice is for you to install a supported version of Ubuntu.  That's going to be easier and probably faster if you already have proper back-ups in place than installing a newer php.  If you want to ignore that advice, then you probably need to go compile php or search for a random repository with a newer more secure php...
[13:37] <iBog> Yes it is the priority
[13:37] <iBog> Jrib do you know the version of php supported on 10.10?
[13:38] <jrib> iBog: 10.10 is not supported
[13:38] <jrib> so there can be no version of php supported on 10.10...
[13:38] <iBog> Jrib.  Ok.  What is the most current version of php that is available for 10.10?
[13:39] <jrib> iBog: 10.10 isn't supported...
[13:39] <Jeaton> anyone else having issues running steam on ubuntu 13.10?
[13:39] <iBog> When 10.10 was supported, what version of php dis it support?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> iBog, best suggestion: go to the php page, look through the backpackages and take your chances
[13:40] <Jeaton> it was working i think on 13.04 until I upgraded, I tried performing steam --reset, but I get the same results
[13:41] <jrib> iBog: I don't know why you're resisting the OS upgrade.  It's a major flaw in your process that you should address.  You're just going to have to do extra work because instead of an OS upgrade (which gives you a supported version of php on a supported version of ubuntu) you're gonna have to muck about with trying to install newer php with old libraries on an old, unsupported OS and then install a newer ubuntu
[13:41] <jrib> later anyway
[13:41] <kenlik> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and dpkg have some dependency problems. Anyone can help me? Check the errors -> http://pastebin.com/BQWRzvRP
[13:41] <jrib> or that
[13:42] <jrib> kenlik: you should say why you are running this command at all.  WHat did you do to make you want to run this command?  Also, pastebin "apt-cache policy PACKAGE" for every package mentioned in your paste
[13:45] <bipul> kenlik, is there any other installation is going on ?.
[13:46] <andyhunt66> good afternoon - I've got a question about the extent of support offered for the LTS versions
[13:46] <hombretao> hi all, i was wondering if anyone can help me figure out how to configure the "run command box" that pops out when pressing Alt+F2
[13:47] <andyhunt66> If a customer installed a later version of e.g. MySQL than was default packaged with LTS 12.04 - would that in any way reduce the amount of support they would receive (assuming they had a support contract) ?
[13:47] <sperrhaken> bipul: Doesn't dpkg report an error in that case, saying that it could not acquire the lock?
[13:48] <Rory> sperrhaken: you are correct
[13:48] <Rory> hombretao: What do you want to do to it?
[13:49] <philinux> hombretao;~ alt f2 then type in fire
[13:49] <philinux> hombretao;~ as an example
[13:50] <kenlik> jrib, Ok my first attempts was apt-get install libasterisk-agi-perl and it show dependency problems above
[13:50] <kenlik> jrib, 2nd try was apt-get -f install to fix the problem
[13:51] <jrib> kenlik: include libast... in your apt-cache policy paste
[13:51] <Rory> kenlik: I have a script which does a lot of package-fix-y things you can see it here http://rory.sh/fixpackages
[13:51] <xangua> andyhunt66: only packages in the official repositories are supported if that is what you ask
[13:51] <jrib> Rory, kenlik: i would not advise running that script
[13:51] <Rory> jrib: oh, why?
[13:51] <andyhunt66> xangua - thanks - does the inclusion of a later package (which won't be supported) affect the support for the rest of the system?
[13:51] <jrib> Rory: that apt-get install -fy seems DANGEROUS.  apt-get -f sometimes wants to do really stupid things
[13:52] <bipul> sperrhaken, sorry i don't get you?
[13:52] <Voziv> Anyone know why I might get "initctl: Unknown job: php5-fpm" when trying to start php 5.5.6?
[13:52] <Rory> jrib: I've seen his apt-get -f
[13:52] <xangua> andyhunt66: if you mean you install or update a program out of official repositories and wordk for you good, but you are on your own
[13:56] <hombretao> i just got disconnected for a second, ill ask again
[13:56] <sperrhaken> bipul: My question was in reference to: "is there any other installation is going on?"
[13:57] <hombretao> is there a way to choose which keywords trigger whihc applications with the Alt+F2 "Run command box"?
[13:57] <philinux> hombretao;~ no it just looks up installed apps
[13:57] <Eloy_> I just plugged a AvermediaTV USB 2.0 in my laptop. lsusb tell me ID 07ca:0026 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. AVerTV
[13:57] <kenlik> jrib, check this with apt-cache policy ->  http://pastebin.com/EjAjEqur
[13:58] <Eloy_> how can i see if it is supported??
[13:58] <philinux> hombretao;~ for example alt f2 then type in gnome
[13:58] <bipul> sperrhaken, oh i see. yes because i have faces such problem.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Eloy_: search for the 8 character hex id
[13:59] <zykotick9> Eloy_: have a look at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia
[13:59] <Eloy_> in terminal??
[13:59] <hombretao> yeah, it shows a list of apps begining with genome. philinux
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Eloy_: no, on the internet
[13:59] <Eloy_> zykotick9: yes i just read it, but mine is older than them
[13:59] <philinux> hombretao;~ thats all it does
[13:59] <macsplean> hey can someone help me make an alias in bash?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: sure, what is the coomand and what alias?
[14:00] <jrib> kenlik: figure out why that package isn't configure yet -- anyway sorry but I have to leave to work
[14:00] <macsplean> ActionParsnip: I want to make a shortcut for rake db:migrate
[14:00] <hombretao> philinux: so, if i tweak the app names on the place Alt+F2 looks for them, i mess up everything? :c
[14:00] <dyu> macsplean: rdbm="rake db:migrate"
[14:01] <zykotick9> macsplean: i'd suggest creating ~/.bash_aliases and adding your "alias foo = bar" in there (log out / back in to enable .bash_aliases)
[14:01] <jrib> kenlik: you can see funky things going on with the versions.  You have a later version than what apt is complaining about
[14:01] <philinux> hombretao;~ what are you trying to achieve?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: in   ~/.bashrc   add:    alias rdbm="rake db:migrate"
[14:01] <dyu> macsplean i mean alias rdbm="rake db:migrate"
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: might be single quotes
[14:01] <macsplean> should I do bashrc or bash_aliases?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: then to test, run:   source ~/.bashrc
[14:01] <hombretao> philinux: i want to press Alt+F2 and type "chrome" instead "google-chrome" to open chrome browser
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: bashrc
[14:01] <hombretao> philinux: also, its wont open neatbeans, it won't show up
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hombretao: is that in Dash?
[14:02] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i think creating .bash_aliases is better then editing .bashrc myself.
[14:02] <hombretao> ActionParsnip: not sure, how do i check that? :c
[14:02] <philinux> hombretao;~ would be easier to pin the app to the launcher
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hombretao: are you using Unity shell?
[14:02] <philinux> hombretao;~ one click no typing
[14:03] <hombretao> ActionParsnip: no, im a ctually running linux mint ubuntu
[14:03] <hombretao> philinux: i was trying to skip mouse/trackpad
[14:03] <xangua> !mint | hombretao
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> hombretao: mint is not supported here
[14:03] <hombretao> ok, sorry
[14:03] <hombretao> thanks for your help
[14:04] <kenlik> jrib, i think the problem is with linux-headers-3.2.0-54-generic, i need to be installed to solve, right but don't work
[14:07] <santhosh_> hai iam installing ubuntu on kvm but when i opening the ubuntu my main is not getting internet
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: how do you connect to the web, wireless? wired? 3G....
[14:08] <santhosh_> wired with static ip
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: can you ping your default gateway?
[14:09] <zykotick9> santhosh_: are you really using virt-manager, or kvm directly from terminal?
[14:09] <santhosh_> it is not connect when my kvm machine it is possible my main is not possible
[14:09] <santhosh_> iam using kvm
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: can you ping your default gateway?
[14:10] <santhosh_> it is not connecting
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: is there a possibilty to use DHCP to see if that succeeds?
[14:10] <zykotick9> santhosh_: are you giving any network switches to kvm currently?  what's the command you are using?
[14:11] <cyc> hi there
 i want sharing net with single ip
[14:12] <santhosh_>  <zykotick9> means
[14:13] <cyc> After installing 3.11 kernel my usb mouse stopped working. Touchpad is still working ... mouse is detected, but cursor won't move. Has anyone else experienced this?
[14:13] <cyc> This is happening on 13.10
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> cyc: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:14] <andyhunt66> xangua - thank you!
[14:14] <cyc> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[14:14] <lsl> ls
[14:14] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: (not sure if you're familiar with kvm) but, getting network working (in a non-NATed way) would be VERY challenging on ubuntu (ie. you can't use N-M i don't think, as it requires a bridge)
[14:14] <auronandace> cyc: 13.10 ships with 3.11, you shouldn't need to install that kernel
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: not sure tbh, never used kvm
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> cyc: was this via updates, or have you installed a kernel you found on the web?
[14:15] <falkenhorst> @dadrc     biste noch da? der chat ist 2x abgeschmiert
[14:15] <cyc> auronandace true ... I've upgraded a few weeks ago to 13.10 but I've noticed today that 3.8 is still used ... that's why I installed it
[14:15] <cyc> ActionParsnip, apt-get, of course
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> cyc: if you unplug the device, wait a few seconds then shove it back in, is it ok?
[14:16] <cyc> It all started when I was trying to get kernel headers for 3.8 and then finding out I still use kernel from 13.04 for some reason ...
[14:17] <cyc> ActionParsnip, eh, I tried a few different devices already and checked in windows if they're still working. So no ... that doesn't change a bit :)
[14:18] <digitlman> anybody using picuntu?
[14:18] <cyc> http://pastebin.com/6LPHiE8Z
[14:18] <auronandace> digitlman: if it isn't official then it isn't supported here
[14:19] <digitlman> ok thanks
[14:19] <cyc> this happens if I disconnect the mouse (it's a wireless one, but an old fashioned one with a cord doesn't work either)
[14:20] <cyc> Other usb devices seem to work fine, usb stick for example.
[14:22] <robin__> is it possible to change 12.04 GDM loginscreen to the newest one known from 13.04 http://i.stack.imgur.com/OfG75.png
[14:22] <cyc> so ... maybe I'm having problems because 13.10 install was an upgrade, not a clean install. Still ... a mouse is pretty basic stuff :)
[14:22] <auronandace> robin__: 12.04 uses lightdm, not gdm
[14:23] <sperrhaken> kenlik: Is it possible that you missed an error during the previous dpkg run?  (The one before you were trying to install libasterisk-agi-perl.)  Can you remember what you did then, maybe the logs can refresh your memory?  Have you tried running 'apt-get update' before 'apt-get -f install', hopefully getting the package information about the update /linux-server/ package?
[14:24] <philinux> robin__;~ whats the difference in the two
[14:24] <robin__> no it says gdm ... i installed from minimal image
[14:24] <philinux> robin__;~ you could install lightdm
[14:25] <robin__> is this fixing the problem ... i heard gdm is more reliable... whats 13.04 or 13.10 based on
[14:25] <philinux> robin__;~ whats  th problem you've got
[14:26] <robin__> standard gdm login screen
[14:26] <robin__> i want to replace it with the nice one
[14:26] <philinux> robin__;~ then install lightdm and give it a whirl
[14:27] <dvineone> What is lightdm?
[14:28] <philinux> !lightdm
[14:28] <auronandace> dvineone: ubuntu's default login screen (display manager)
[14:28] <philinux> dvineone;~ have a quich net search
[14:29] <Le_Bacon> i have a weird error w/ k3b. could someone plz help?
[14:30] <cyc> I guess I'll create a usb boot disk with 13.10 and try ubuntu live ... and see if mouse works there normally
[14:30] <dvineone> oh i see. Did not  know it was called lightdm
[14:30] <Le_Bacon> i have a weird error w/ k3b. could someone plz help?
[14:30] <Le_Bacon> i have a weird error w/ k3b. could someone plz help?
[14:30] <Rory> !details | Le_Bacon
[14:32] <Le_Bacon> 'kay.  well, I'm on ubuntu 12.04.  When i try to burn an iso to a dvd+r, it prepares to do it, the it fails.
[14:32] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Does it give an error message? Does it occur with any .iso file or just one in particular? have you tried a different burning application like brasero?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> Le_Bacon, does your burner support +R? not all do
[14:33] <dvineone> Using brasaro?
[14:34] <Le_Bacon> Rory: well it's zorin os 6.4 ObrienDave: I've tried -R too, it doesn't work either. so i don't know.
[14:34] <Rory> Le_Bacon: This is the ubuntu support channel not zorin
[14:34] <Rory> Le_Bacon: I think you accidentally joined the wrong channel :)
[14:34] <Le_Bacon> i have the problem in ubuntu.  that's why i'm here.
[14:35] <ObrienDave> Le_Bacon, have you checked the ISO with MD5?
[14:35] <Le_Bacon> yeah, it appears to come out fine.
[14:35] <Le_Bacon> i think.
[14:35] <ObrienDave> lol
[14:35] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Can you try using the command-line tool "cdrecord" with the following command: cdrecord -v -pad speed=4 dev=0,0,0 path/to/your.iso
[14:35] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ ah you're trying to burn an OS iso
[14:35] <Le_Bacon> hey, i'm kind of a n00b here
[14:36] <dvineone> When burning DVD's with brasaro i think you need to install some additional libs.
[14:36] <Rory> dvineone: Not to burn a disk image (.iso)
[14:36] <Le_Bacon> in k3b?
[14:36] <ObrienDave> k3b should burn it with no problems
[14:36] <philinux> agreed ObrienDave
[14:37] <Le_Bacon> hmmm... well, i've got a problem.
[14:37] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Can you try using the command-line tool "cdrecord" with the following command: cdrecord -v -pad speed=4 dev=0,0,0 path/to/your.iso
[14:37] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ could be a bad dvd.
[14:37] <Rory> Le_Bacon: if it fails then the error output from that command will be useful
[14:37] <Le_Bacon> philinux: i've gone through a bunch of them
[14:38] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ I bet - hates em I do - I use dvd rw''s now
[14:38] <helmut_> hi
[14:38] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ I mainly use usb stick now
[14:38] <Rory> Le_Bacon: You could use a USb flash drive instead of a DVD if you are trying to burn an OS
[14:39] <Le_Bacon> philinux okay. but will an old laptop boot from that?
[14:39] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Only you will know that
[14:39] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ not necessarlity. Does k3b not show an error
[14:39] <Le_Bacon> okay
[14:40] <Le_Bacon> philinux yeah, it does.  it says it's a problem with the medium.
[14:41] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ use the command line stuff that Rory gave you ^^ might get more info
[14:41] <ObrienDave> how old is the burner?
[14:41] <Le_Bacon> ive tried several mediums though, and none of them work.
[14:41] <Le_Bacon> it's on old dell, i think its 10 years old.
[14:42] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ have you another machine to burn the iso on?
[14:42] <ObrienDave> might be time for a new burner or at least clean the lens
[14:42] <Le_Bacon> yeah, but do you have a good method of transporting the iso?
[14:43] <Rory> Le_Bacon: a flash drive...?
[14:43] <Rory> Le_Bacon: At a pinch, your phone
[14:43] <Le_Bacon> how 'bout an other dvd?
[14:43] <philinux> its 1.6 gig i think so should fit on aphone
[14:43] <Rory> Le_Bacon: lol if you could burn DVDs you won't need to transport the iso
[14:44] <philinux> Rory;~ i think he means as a data disk
[14:44] <Le_Bacon> no, i just mean as a storage device.
[14:44] <Rory> Le_Bacon: So you can burn DVDs, but you just can't burn this iso?
[14:44] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ that might show if dvd burner works worth a shot
[14:44] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Can you try with the command I gave you earlier?
[14:45] <Le_Bacon> @Rory: what do i put the command into?
[14:45] <ObrienDave> terminal
[14:45] <Rory> !cli | Le_Bacon
[14:46] <Rory> err that factoid really wants updating
[14:46] <cyc> I've checked - after booting 13.10 from usb stick, mouse works fine. If I boot old 3.8 kernel, mouse also works, but then I get blank screen. If I boot 3.11 kernel nvidia drivers work fine, but only touchpad works, not the real mouse. Any suggestions besides clean install? :)
[14:46] <Le_Bacon> okay brb
[14:48] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Obviously replace /path/to/your.iso with the actual filename of the disk image (eg /home/username/Downloads/blahblah.iso)
[14:49] <Le_Bacon> Rory: here's what i get wodim: No write mode specified. wodim: Assuming -tao mode. wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits. scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 WARNING: the deprecated pseudo SCSI syntax found as device specification. Support for that may cease in the future versions of wodim.
[14:50] <ObrienDave> needs to be -dao
[14:50] <cyc> Well, considering I have /home on a separate partition ... I'll make a clean install - that should work. Stupid as it sounds ... :)
[14:50] <mao> do you realize discuss which linux distro is pointless ??
[14:50] <Le_Bacon> what do u mean ObrienDave?
[14:51] <ObrienDave> -tao is Track At Once. -dao is Disk At Once
[14:51] <Le_Bacon> okay, how do i set that?
[14:51] <ObrienDave> not sure through wodim. I use k3b ;)
[14:51] <studentz> Hi there. After upgrade to the 14.04 I cannot login using lgdm, but I can get into the partition from terminal (Ctrl Alt F1). Any pointers? thanks
[14:52] <iceroot> studentz: #ubuntu+1
[14:52] <Le_Bacon> so do i
[14:54] <Rory> mao: What do you mean?
[14:56] <sfolter> /LIST
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> studentz: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support
[15:00] <studentz> Hi there. After upgrade to the  I cannot login using lgdm, but I can get into the partition from terminal (Ctrl Alt F1). Any pointers? thanks
[15:01] <kkkkkk> hi all, why my chrome is slow as compared with windows, chrome on linux has only one add on adblock and it takes 6 seconds to startup first time, while on windows, it take s 2-3 seconds, with months of history, many add ons etc
[15:01] <kkkkkk>  should i update chrome?? my version is old, 29.0 . something
[15:01] <zykotick9> studentz: for support of 14.04 you need the right channel (not here!)  use "/join #ubuntu+1" to get there.
[15:01] <kkkkkk> what is latest version of chrome??
[15:01] <ObrienDave> 31.0.1650.57
[15:02] <ObrienDave> stable
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> studentz: if you cannot fix stuff like that you probably shouldnt use pre-release
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> studentz: especially as it is so young
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> studentz: if you use Precise, you can upgrade direct to Trusty as it is LTS to LTS
[15:04] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: why my chrome is so slow
[15:04] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: can u help me
[15:04] <studentz> ActionParnsnip my bad I mean to say to last version.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: try closing the app and renaming it's config folder, then rerun
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> studentz: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:05] <molgrum> system alert sound doesn't play for me in unity, but it does in gnome shell. what could cause this? i have opened the sound configuration and the alert sound is "on" and at max volume
[15:05] <molgrum> anything else i can check?
[15:05] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: i have not downloaded any apps, and where is the config folder, i have only downloaded adblock plus
[15:06] <Rory> molgrum: What ubuntu version/
[15:06] <molgrum> Rory: 13.10
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: ~/.config/google-chrome
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: a quick look through your filesystem would have shown that
[15:07] <dumnut> hi, sound on my computer does not work. how do i find out what sound driver i have ?
[15:07] <Rory> !sound
[15:07] <Rory> dumnut: There's a guide here ^
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:08] <kkkkkk> actionparnship: okay i got it, but just to rename it or delete it
[15:09] <studentz> Actionparnship I'm not at the computer right now. But I remember the  lsb_release indicate last version. Also, I uninstall (purge) nvidia and noveau drivers, but the problem persist.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: delete, less destructtive
[15:09] <dumnut> hi ubottu hi Rory hi ActionParsnip, ok i'll do what you guys suggested
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> studentz: are you using Optimus GPU (witchable)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: the command will make a url, what is the url please
[15:10] <studentz> ActionParnsnip Nope is a Desktop.
[15:11] <misterr_x_x_x> i'v a problem whit conky colors, isn't traspartent... any have a solution?
[15:11] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: it seems fast but my adblock plus is gone and i need to check it after reboot
[15:11] <Rory> misterr_x_x_x: Try in #conky
[15:11] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: i will be right there within few minutes
[15:14] <misterr_x_x_x> thanks rory
[15:15] <mao> HOW to make one applications to use the proxy ,  and the others just as usually ?  thanks..
[15:16] <dumnut> ActionParsnip: the url is http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=6763d25d0128f11ef2bc5eb183d4469d6a00c810
[15:18] <mao> ??
[15:18] <anonymous> hello
[15:21] <Rory> dumnut: it looks like your sound card is detected and installed fine, can you run the command: alsamixer
[15:21] <Rory> dumnut: That will bring up a horizontal bank of faders, use your arrow keys to navigate between them and check they're all turned up
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: run the large command just above step 2 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: then reboot to test
[15:24] <BluesKaj> dumnut. if you just upgraded then the intel hda driver probly isn't loading at startup , it's a known bug , in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , no output if the driver loads properly , but may need to reboot
[15:24] <santhosh_> hai iam installting centos as a host and in that kvm iam installting ubuntu but the 2 system are not connect at a time
[15:25] <santhosh_> is there anty solutions tell me
[15:25] <ikonia> santhosh_: that is a host problem, ask in #centos
[15:25] <zykotick9> santhosh_: personally i'd suggest asking in #kvm
[15:26] <santhosh_> ok evn that every one knows on that in that iam asking
[15:26] <ikonia> santhosh_: we understand what you are asking and it needs to be configured on the host, the host is centos, so the #centos support channel will help you
[15:27] <dumnut> ActionParsnip Rory and BluesKaj: i foloowed your troubleshooting page and upper right corner of screen at volume control it was on mute. i turned up voluime and it worked ok. thank-you for your help
[15:27] <santhosh_> ok the same problem iam getting ubuntu also
[15:27] <zykotick9> ikonia: networking kvm is "tricky", i really think #kvm would be able to help more...  but they might be sent to centos support to create the bridge ;)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> dumnut. np :)
[15:27] <cebor> Im on ubuntu 13.10 since last updates i must enter passphrase for my ssh key, is this i bug or have i broke something ?
[15:28] <ikonia> zykotick9: based on centos's default setup, it will simpley by either libvirtd not running, or the xml profile for bridges having the wrong interface name in, eg: he's using a wifi card called wlan0 instead of eth*
[15:28] <cebor> > no popup, i get it in prompt
[15:29] <zykotick9> ikonia: santhosh_ stated earlier they are NOT using virtmanager, but kvm directly (i'm not sure how accurate that is however ;)
[15:29] <ikonia> zykotick9: then it's more likley the second of the two situations
[15:29] <santhosh_> ok thanks
[15:29] <ikonia> zykotick9: as the second is nothing to do with virt/virsh
[15:30] <cebor> can someone with rsa key test this for me ?
[15:30] <lolcat> test what?
[15:30] <lolcat> cebor: if it has a passphrase, wont you have to type it in?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: d'oh
[15:31] <cebor> before you can click a checkbox save, now this window dont comes up
[15:31] <cebor> only a input in prompt
[15:34] <dumnut> ActionParsnip: good point, it is the obvious that i miss d'oh me
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: well, we got there
[15:38] <williangliao> it's time to go to bed, good night everyone,
[15:40] <juniour> hey i have intex tv tunner. can i can use it with ubuntu???
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> juniour: how does it connect the system?
[15:43] <juniour> ActionParsnip usb. i have done lsusb. its showing the device
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> juniour: any results for the 8 character hex id?
[15:43] <juniour> yep
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> juniour: what is it please?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> the ID
[15:44] <juniour> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 18ec:3280 Arkmicro Technologies Inc.
[15:45] <juniour> ActionParsnip ?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> juniour: what is the output of:   ls -al /dev/vid*
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> juniour: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2124151
[15:46] <juniour> ActionParsnip i am reading this post but not getting
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> juniour: are there any bugs reported?
[15:47] <juniour> crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 Nov 21 21:03 /dev/video0
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[15:49] <juniour> ActionParsnip y is it like that . everything works fine with windows but when we come to ubuntu just it fail to work
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> juniour: drivers and support
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> juniour: I can name several things that work in Linux but not in Windows
[15:50] <juniour> ActionParsnip wt to do now
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> juniour: check for bugs, report a bug
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> juniour: its stil worthwhile reading rviews to see what works with Ubuntu etc before buying. Then it will work in both
[15:57] <juniour> :)
[15:58] <juniour> ActionParsnip but what for now bro :)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> juniour: use your windows OS for it
[15:58] <juniour> ActionParsnip heee haaaaaa nice answer :)
[16:00] <krambiorix> hi, i have installed php imap  like apt-get install php5-imap and all installed just fine... But now in my browser i get (again) : Fatal error: Call to undefined function imap_open() in.... wth?!
[16:00] <krambiorix> Can someone explain?
[16:01] <mhogan> Hi, I'm running 12.04LTS and would like to change the default protocol in remmina.  I've looked in ~/.remmina/remmina.pref but do not see it. Can someone tell me where to make the change?
[16:02] <jnpplf> mhogan, sounds like a question for #remmina or #ubuntu?
[16:03] <mhogan> jnpplf: I'll try #remmina, thanks
[16:03] <jnpplf> mhogan, there may not be one, just sayin' :)
[16:03] <zykotick9> jnpplf: ahhh, this is #ubuntu
[16:03] <jnpplf> It is.
[16:03]  * jnpplf looks around
[16:03]  * jnpplf runs away
[16:04] <jnpplf> That explain a lot.
[16:05] <zerowaitstate> *jnpplf puts a hand over one eye and looks around
[16:05] <MotherMGA> Hello, I have a problem with dual monitors on 13.10 using ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5430.    Basically, it looks like the screen buffer for my attached monitor is offset by about 4 pixels.  The laptop screen looks perfect.  There is about a 4 pixels strip on the right of my external monitor that displays a sliver of my laptop screen, along with some random pixels above/below because my laptop screen is smaller than the external moni
[16:05] <MotherMGA> Any clue on how I can fix that?
[16:07] <molgrum> i don't get this, as far as i see both unity and gnome shell uses the same sound configuring app. however the system alert sound doesn't play in unity for me.. it does in gnome shell
[16:08] <impradeepy> can we install vlc 2.1.1 on 13.04? officialy not but ney ppa ??
[16:08] <BluesKaj> impradeepy.why , what's the advantage over the default ?
[16:09] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: it has a bigger number for version ;)
[16:09] <philinux> bug fixes etc etc
[16:09] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. , newer means more stable to some
[16:09] <BluesKaj> :)
[16:09] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: newer means less-stable, to me ;)
[16:10] <philinux> impradeepy;~ just get the correct ppa
[16:10] <BluesKaj> philinux. what bug fixes , vlc is fine as it is
[16:10] <philinux> BluesKaj;~ I was generalising
[16:10] <impradeepy> ios port
[16:10] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. yeah , guiess my sarcasm didn't come thru :)
[16:11] <impradeepy> ney way thanks its better use google search
[16:11] <impradeepy> njoy all bye
[16:12] <minari02> hola
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !info vlc raring
[16:19] <richard305> New here: can anyone help me with sound issues in 13.10?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> richard305: what is the issue?
[16:22] <simonpatapon> hi
[16:23] <richard305> ActionParsnip: i was trying to get skype to work and i'm pretty sure i broke something now when i pull up pulseaudio mixer and play things in banshee, the sounds are registering on the screen, but nothing's coming out of the speakers
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> richard305: tried:   killall pulseaudio    wait 5 seconds then try sound stuff
[16:24] <wheatthin> sounds like pulseaudio has been a common problem lately
[16:25] <richard305> yeah, still nothing
[16:25] <richard305> pulseaudio's volume control shows that it knows the songs are playing
[16:25] <simonpatapon> I want to backup a drive on a windows server 2008 system to a Ubuntu system... wich is better? getting file from ubuntu or sending files from windows server?
[16:25] <richard305> it's just not making it to the speakers
[16:26] <philinux> richard305;~ see this http://m.webupd8.org/2013/10/get-sound-working-in-skype-with-ubuntu.html?m=1
[16:26] <philinux> wheaties466;~ just skype i think
[16:26] <richard305> i actually did that
[16:26] <richard305> i think it fixed skype, but i can't be sure because i've screwed something else up in the process
[16:27] <wheatthin> philinux, nah, it's not just this one situation I'm talking about :)
[16:27] <richard305> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling pulseaudio
[16:27] <eugene-c1> Hi
[16:27] <wheatthin> richard305, can you check alsamixer in the console and see if it has anything muted?
[16:28] <philinux> richard305;~ delete the pulse audio cookie too
[16:28] <BarackObama_I> Hi folks.
[16:28] <richard305> well that's darn odd
[16:28] <BluesKaj> richard305. cat /proc/asound/modules , what's the output ?
[16:28] <Akonkwa> Hi everyone
[16:28] <richard305> the moment i opened the alsamixer it started working
[16:29] <eugene-c1> i'm starter Ubuntu user. who can recommend me nice audio player with radio?
[16:29] <Akonkwa> How can I read the topic ?
[16:29] <wheatthin> alsamixer is conflicting with pulseaudio resources
[16:29] <Pici> Akonkwa: /topic
[16:29] <richard305> it sounds like it
[16:29] <BluesKaj> no alsa just loaded
[16:29] <richard305> i'm going to try shutting down, rebooting, and seeing if it stays working
[16:29] <BluesKaj> pulse rides on top of alsa as a soundserver
[16:30] <deersi> can anyone help in connecting a 3.5G Connect iBall USB modem on Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:30] <wheatthin> so if it just loaded, it would have showed any output acknowledgement in the pulseaudio wave thingy
[16:30] <Akonkwa> @Pici : thx
[16:30] <wheatthin> wouldn't*
[16:30] <BarackObama_I> Plug it in Deersi.
[16:30] <themysticgeek> Hi. Can nebody suggest another way of creating a custom ubuntu live cd besides remastersys?
[16:31] <Akonkwa> Can I ask questions about linuxw here ?
[16:31] <philinux> Akonkwa;~ !topic
[16:31] <wheatthin> ubuntu :)
[16:31] <Akonkwa> !topic
[16:31] <wheatthin> if it isn't ubuntu related #linux
[16:32] <Akonkwa> when I tipe /topic it says ' Insufficient arguments for command"
[16:33] <wheatthin> Akonkwa, you're doing that in the channel? if not, you have to supply the channel
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !topic
[16:33] <themysticgeek> Hi. Can nebody suggest another way of creating a custom ubuntu live cd besides remastersys?
[16:33] <Pici> Akonkwa: This is the official Ubuntu support channel, if you have a question about Ubuntu, just ask.
[16:33] <cebor> can i prevent that i getting root access via grub ?
[16:34] <mac_12> hi to everyone
[16:34] <Akonkwa> !topic #ubuntu
[16:34] <eugene-c1> can anyone help me: how to change graphic theme of DE in Ubuntu 12 04? I'm new to linux :)
[16:34] <Akonkwa> wheatthin:  yes I'm doing it in the channel
[16:35] <themysticgeek> :(
[16:35] <richard305> stayed fixed after reboot
[16:35] <wheatthin> well gosh.. you're welcome :P
[16:36] <richard305> i guess somehow i hadn't reinitialized alsa after reinstalling it and pulseaudio and opening the alsa mixer as opposed to the pulseaudio one somehow fixed it
[16:36] <richard305> so thanks :)
[16:36] <wheatthin> :)
[16:37] <richard305> crazy. right then, back to work. no more excuses.
[16:37] <themysticgeek> Hi
[16:37] <Akonkwa> I'm trying  to remove a file named <filename> in any subdirectory or deeper of a specific directory. DOes anyone know how to do this ?
[16:42] <cebor> Akonkwa: rm subdir/subsubdir/filname  ?
[16:43] <themysticgeek> Hi. Can nebody suggest another way of creating a custom ubuntu live cd besides remastersys?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> !custom
[16:44] <themysticgeek> !custom
[16:44] <vaskozl> Hello!
[16:45] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu Customization Kit
[16:45] <vaskozl> Hey back in 13.04 I remember that there was a "/etc/acpi/lid.sh" script that would control what happens when you turn of your lid
[16:46] <vaskozl> It is no longer their....
[16:46] <BluesKaj> themysticgeek. there used to be an app to make custom live media , but my memory fails me :/
[16:46] <vaskozl> anyone know where I can achieve the same thing in 13.10?
[16:46] <BarackObama_I> Over and above all, it's just another day.
[16:46] <jhutchins_wk> vaskozl: turn of your lid?
[16:46] <allstarsnorks2> just realised 20GB is not enough size for a partition if you want to build custom UBuntu distros because they are all 5GB+++
[16:46] <vaskozl> Well afair it was a script that was run when the lid was closed/opened
[16:47] <themysticgeek> @ObrienDave: thanks
[16:47] <jhutchins_wk> vaskozl: It might have moved to udev.
[16:47] <vaskozl> So lets say I could have it write in a file, logging every time the computers goes to sleep and wakes up
[16:47] <vaskozl> moreover I could  have it so that it doesn't go to sleep
[16:47] <vaskozl> when I close the lid
[16:49] <vaskozl> jhutchins_wk: so what would I do?
[16:50] <Xtreme666> Hello Guys, I am using XUbuntu, and xfce is still saving my session when i ask it not to. How to fix this issue?
[16:50] <navetz> hey guys what's the best irc client for ubuntu?
[16:50] <Xtreme666> navetz, you are in it
[16:50] <zykotick9> !best | navetz
[16:51] <zykotick9> navetz: xchat is popular for gui, and irssi/weechat in terminal.  YMMV
[16:51] <navetz> okay cool. I currently don't have a client so I was looking for a couple suggestions
[16:51] <ObrienDave> some like HexChat
[16:51] <navetz> I'm just using the broswer irc webchat
[16:51] <zykotick9> !irc | navetz
[16:51] <vaskozl> ok so here is my question in another way: Where is the config that allows you to change the events on lid close, power button, etc.
[16:52] <Xtreme666> i like xcgat
[16:52] <Xtreme666> xchat
[16:52] <Xtreme666> i use it on windows and linux
[16:52] <navetz> thanks everyone I'll give xchat a shot
[16:52] <vaskozl> some like irssi
[16:52] <Xtreme666> anyone with xfce bug solution?
[16:52] <Sh1G3rU> weechat
[16:52] <vaskozl> weechat is good
[16:53] <ObrienDave> you'll like HexChat
[16:53] <vaskozl> howcome everyone starts arguing about a "best irc client" and then noone actually answers propper questions
[16:53] <Sh1G3rU> weechat has lots of pluginx
[16:53] <allstarsnorks2> Hey guys, how do I delete a file as root?
[16:53] <ObrienDave> we're funny that way ;P
[16:53] <zykotick9> allstarsnorks2: "sudo rm foo"
[16:54] <prakash09> hello
[16:54] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ be very careful - here be dragons
[16:54] <allstarsnorks2> or, how do I access the root account?
[16:54] <prakash09> i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts. how can i switch between different apps quickly
[16:54] <vaskozl> alt+tab
[16:54] <vaskozl> or WinKey + # of application
[16:54] <vanishing> sudo -s
[16:54] <Sh1G3rU> lol vaskozl
[16:54] <vaskozl> on the taskbar
[16:54] <vanishing> sudo su
[16:55] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ would help if you say exactly what you need to do
[16:55] <prakash09> allstarsnorks2: sudo su
[16:55] <Myrtti> meh, sudo su is redundant and a bit wrong
[16:55] <zykotick9> vanishing: prakash09 DON'T suggest "sudo su"!  it's wrong!
[16:55] <allstarsnorks2> ohilinux: I want to delete an .iso file I built that took like 5GB of my disc drive
[16:55] <vanishing> zykotick9: erm...really?
[16:55] <vanishing> didn't know that
[16:55] <vanishing> or rather su
[16:55] <vanishing> lol
[16:55] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ that should be sudo -i
[16:56] <Myrtti> allstarsnorks2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:56] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ where is it located why root
[16:56] <Sh1G3rU> guys dont use root you can do everything you need with sudo
[16:56] <zykotick9> Sh1G3rU: +1
[16:57] <vaskozl> there is nothing wrong with root
[16:57] <Sh1G3rU> thnx zykotick9
[16:57] <vaskozl> I have a root terminal open all the time
[16:57] <allstarsnorks2> file system > home > remastersys > remastersys
[16:57] <Sh1G3rU> vaskozl, the problem is that 99% of people who uses root messes everything
[16:57] <Sh1G3rU> on daily basis i mean
[16:57] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ just cd to the folder then sudo rm the file
[16:57] <vaskozl> Sh1G3rU: I think the main problem with root is practical.
[16:57] <Xtreme666> :(
[16:58] <vaskozl> Sh1G3rU: if you create a file as root, you can't then open it as a normal user without hitting it with chmod and stuff
[16:58] <allstarsnorks2> so, cd home/remastersys/remastersys?
[16:58] <k1l> vaskozl: please stick to the ubuntu way in here when giving advises. thanks
[16:58] <Sh1G3rU> vaskozl,  you can sudo chown user:user file
[16:58] <prakash09> is there any software that makes switching easy in ubuntu 12.04
[16:58] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ / in front of home
[16:59] <Sh1G3rU> root is the pandora box
[16:59] <vaskozl> Sh1G3rU: I mean working with a root terminal sucks, unless you wan't to give all your other application root access, which you definately shouldn't
[16:59] <BluesKaj> prakash09. switching to ?
[16:59] <Sh1G3rU> :P that is why binarys on the /usr/bin has all the sticky bit
[16:59] <vaskozl> I just use the root terminal to install things :D
[16:59] <prakash09> Blueskaj:switching between different apps fast
[17:00] <allstarsnorks2> cd ;~ /home/remastersys/remastersys/
[17:00] <vaskozl> because I don't want to type the password every time I use apt-get
[17:00] <philinux> prakash09;~ do you mean alternatives to win apps
[17:00] <zykotick9> !wfm | vaskozl
[17:00] <k1l> prakash09: press alt+tab
[17:00] <Sh1G3rU> vaskozl,  my for the last 3 years has a dual boot xubuntu and freebsd and i never used root on my xubuntu
[17:00] <prakash09> no,i mean if 2-3 applications are open at a time then switching between them fast
[17:01] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ yep
[17:01] <k1l> prakash09: yes, i mean that too
[17:01] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ then ls to see the files
[17:01] <k1l> prakash09: or if you us unity, use the superkey+number shown
[17:02] <prakash09> K1:thanks
[17:02] <kephra> what ubuntu file to download for USB, for someone who has no (slow) internet to install it
[17:02] <Kaneo> Hello guys, there is a HDMI port in my laptop, and I'd like to find out if it supports input or output, how can I find out?
[17:02] <allstarsnorks2> I don't understand. Why does applications that build custom distros take up a massive amount of space
[17:02] <BluesKaj> prakash09.ka it's hdmi out , for sure
[17:02] <Kaneo> ?
[17:02] <Kaneo> guys?
[17:03] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ you'll have to ask himself
[17:03] <vaskozl> input?
[17:03] <zykotick9> Kaneo: see BluesKaj above
[17:03] <vaskozl> I would assume only output
[17:03] <BluesKaj> err sorry prakash09 Kaneo^'
[17:03] <vaskozl> check with xrandr
[17:03] <pablov> join #edx
[17:03] <zykotick9> Kaneo: and don't crosspost to different channels at the same time
[17:03] <Kaneo> BluesKaj: I'd like to find out though.
[17:03] <Kaneo> BluesKaj: how can I find out?
[17:03] <vaskozl> Kaneo: input?
[17:04] <Kaneo> vaskozl: ?
[17:04] <Kaneo> xrandr shows
[17:04] <Kaneo> HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:04] <Kaneo> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:04] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ fragadelic is the man to ask
[17:04] <vaskozl> Kaneo: so you have nothing plugged in?
[17:04] <allstarsnorks2> alright, found te files
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Kaneo. the only video inputs on a pc/laptop are video capture cards , that aren'/t installed by default , unless you did
[17:04] <rjzell> can anyone help me with an issue i ran into while upgrading to 13.10 last night?
[17:04] <kephra> allstarsnorks2, Wirth's law "software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster."
[17:04] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ I thought 4 gig was the limit of remastersys
[17:05] <allstarsnorks2> philinux: PArtition went from from 14GB to 9GB because remastersys
[17:06] <rjzell> about halfway through the upgrade, my system froze. i left it for about 45 minutes and it still would not respond to anything.
[17:06] <Kaneo> I connected one HDMI cable in my laptop, and the other end into my Xbox 360 console, and now I'd like to view my Xbox 360 screen on my monitor instead of showing up my usual laptop screen, Linux isn't detecting anything, Windows would usually detect the cable but why isn't Linux doing it? do I have to install something?
[17:07] <Sh1G3rU> rjzell,  is you pc working right now?
[17:07] <zykotick9> Kaneo: you HDMI is OUTPUT, NOT INPUT
[17:07] <jenJ33> suppose that you are responsible of a server which has got more than 20000 users suddenly an organisation makes you a call and tell you that one of your users is now hacking our server and they give you a warning which if you won't stop him in 30 mins, we will attack your server (DDoS) and further more we will sue you as well. They  give you their server IP address in other to make it very quick. Now my question is how can you find thi
[17:07] <pirulinux> hola a todos
[17:08] <Kaneo> zykotick9: so?
[17:08] <zykotick9> Kaneo: so, your laptop is trying to output to your xbox - do you think that will work?
[17:08] <rjzell> yes, it is working. i ran the dpkg --config -a command and it seems ot be working again, but wanted to know if there was any way to make sure nothing in the background was still broken
[17:08] <vaskozl> jenJ33: this is the ubuntu forum
[17:08] <Kaneo> zykotick9, can I output my screen to the TV?
[17:09] <vaskozl> Kaneo: yes
[17:09] <k1l> Kaneo: you cant use your laptop as a monitor only.
[17:09] <zykotick9> Kaneo: sure HMDI from laptop to TV
[17:09] <jenJ33> vaskozl: ubuntu couldn't be a server operation system? where should I ask my q?
[17:09] <k1l> Kaneo: its a one-way-street. only from the laptop -> tv/monitor and not into the laptop
[17:09] <Kaneo> if I connect one HDMI cable in my laptop, and the other end at my TV, will Ubuntu automatically output?
[17:09] <k1l> jenJ33: of course is ubuntu a server OS
[17:09] <Kaneo> or will I gotta do something?
[17:10] <vaskozl> Kaneo: yes
[17:10] <vaskozl> Kaneo: you can further configure it trough the screen settings
[17:10] <vaskozl> Kaneo: you should see a picture instantly.
[17:11] <allstarsnorks2> THE BUILD IS DONE WOO
[17:11] <pirulinux> There is one of these chat in Spanish
[17:12] <vaskozl> allstarsnorks2: good job!
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !es
[17:12] <pirulinux> muchas gracias ubottu
[17:13] <Sh1G3rU> !jp
[17:13] <Sh1G3rU> arrigato tadeimas ubottu
[17:14] <peterrooney> !crosspost
[17:22] <til4k> anyone here dual boot with UEFI
[17:23] <auronandace> !uefi | til4k
[17:23] <til4k> yeah ive read a lot about it
[17:23] <Johnny_Linux> pretty slick
[17:23] <FiremanEd> !ask | til4k
[17:24] <til4k> man you guys are obnoxious ill search then jesus
[17:24] <Sh1G3rU> !patience
[17:25] <allstarsnorks2> now i want to distribute my custom distro. ANy websites to recommend?
[17:25] <Sh1G3rU> distrowatch
[17:25] <Pandian> Hello
[17:26] <Pandian> I want to install https://launchpad.net/minesweeper-touch in 12.04
[17:26] <Pandian> any ideas
[17:27] <ObrienDave> allstarsnorks2, linuxtracker
[17:27] <FiremanEd> Pandian: Isn't that for Ubuntu Touch?
[17:28] <gorgonzola> hello peoples. packages.ubuntu.com is down? is it just outage or did it move somewhere else?
[17:28] <gorgonzola> related: is there a mirror i could use?
[17:28] <k1l> gorgonzola: temporary, i suggest
[17:28] <Pandian> @FiremanEd oh is there any minesweeper equivalent for ubuntu 12.04
[17:29] <gorgonzola> k1l oh. ok. thanks!
[17:30] <ObrienDave> Pandian, it's known as "Mines"
[17:31] <FiremanEd> Pandian: or Minefield
[17:31] <Pandian> ok thanks
[17:36] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ been down ages today
[17:37] <gorgonzola> philinux yeah, i've been trying to reach it all morning...
[17:37] <ObrienDave> Pandian, gnome-mines
[17:37] <gorgonzola> philinux that's why i came here to ask if it had moved or what
[17:38] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/
[17:38] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ handy site
[17:38] <gorgonzola> phillinux: ooh, that might come in handy. thanks for the tip.
[17:39] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ welcome
[17:39] <navetz> hey guys where can I find the files for google chrom after it's installed?
[17:40] <zykotick9> navetz: check in /opt (just a guess!)
[17:41] <navetz> zykotick9, there it is!
[17:48] <DeepBlue> hello evry1 , i am looking for a driver modem zte mdsl ac8700 o/s ubuntu ver 7.4 can you hlp pls
[17:48] <ilhami> Hey..
[17:49] <ObrienDave> ubuntu 7.4???
[17:49] <ilhami> I need help with my external monitor. When I plug it in I can't get past login screen.
[17:50] <reisio> why not
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | DeepBlue if that is not a joke
[17:50] <ilhami> I don't know. It returns back to the login screen all the time. When its plugged off and I only use my laptop screen it works fine.
[17:53] <reisio> ilhami: and as guest?
[17:53] <ilhami> reisio: I didn't try as a guest. Should I try?
[17:56] <BarackObama_I> The IRS, go figure.
[18:03] <eugene_mac> hello! I have a problem: nouveau drivers are not selected (though, installed): when I try 'lsmod | grep nouveau' i get nothing in return. I try 'modprobe nouveau', but I get and error of "could not insert nouveau: no such device". in case this is important, I load with 'acpi=off' option, as I cannot load otherwise. Can anyone help me?
[18:07] <juniour> hi
[18:12] <gener1c> i have a file in my path that is called screedump, i ran this utility and all it did is spit some stuff from my bootup to stdout
[18:12] <gener1c> what is it for?
[18:12] <gener1c> is it normal to have this?
[18:14] <allstarsnorks2> command to delete an .iso file as root?
[18:14] <BarackObama_I> sudo
[18:14] <gener1c> sudo rm
[18:17] <BarackObama_I> Where the cash at?
[18:17] <BarackObama_I> Where the stash at?
[18:18] <bazhang> !ot | BarackObama_I
[18:18] <FiremanEd> BarackObama_I : please behave.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> he's probly a republican :)
[18:19] <BarackObama_I> Ubuntu is African, what do they have over there?
[18:19] <BarackObama_I> Does Africa has the two party system?
[18:19] <bazhang> take the chat elsewhere BarackObama_I
[18:20] <ilhami> Hey. I still haven't solved my issue. I have a problem with my external monitor. I can't get past the login screen when it's plugged in.
[18:20] <ObrienDave> well played ;)
[18:21] <allstarsnorks2> 1.52GB distro ugh
[18:22] <jbroome> ubuntu-server and install what you want from there
[18:22] <impossible> ilhami, what do you mean?
[18:22] <mollitz> Is it possible to just route a given IP Range or Ports with openvpn? I need to connect to a mysql odbc via openvpn and they have no internet on their server...
[18:22] <ilhami> impossible: whenever I plugin my external monitor I am sent back to the login screen.
[18:23] <impossible> ilhami, so you log in and when you plug the ex. monitor is kicks ya out?
[18:23] <ilhami> yes!
[18:23] <impossible> i use an external and it doesnt do that to me :(
[18:23] <BluesKaj> ilhami. plug it in before login
[18:23] <BluesKaj> impossible.^
[18:24] <impossible> true! make sure its plugged before
[18:24] <impossible> i always have my laptop plugged in maybe thats why
[18:24] <ilhami> I did BluesKaj... When I then enter my password the light on my monitor gets orange. You know its green until the login screen and all that..
[18:24] <ilhami> then it goes back to the login screen
[18:24] <ilhami> like a loop :D
[18:24] <ilhami> infinite loop
[18:24] <ilhami> hehehe
[18:24] <FloodBot1> ilhami: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <ilhami> Sorry.
[18:24] <impossible> lol, you got too excited
[18:25] <BluesKaj> ilhami. what kind of connection to the monitor ?
[18:25] <ilhami> its vga.
[18:25] <ilhami> can you check xrandr? :D
[18:29] <ilhami> BluesKaj ?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> ilhami. which graphics , perhaps you need a better driver
[18:30] <troulouliou_dev> hi how can i reset all the credentials used by dbconfig-common ; i m trying to configure redmine on psql but i m never prompted for admin/user credentials
[18:31] <ilhami>  BluesKaj I have nvidia
[18:31] <ilhami> or I have two graphic cards
[18:31] <ilhami> I use the intel one for regular stuff and Nvidia for games.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> ilhami. check your settings/additional drivers
[18:32] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Anyone there?
[18:32] <ilhami> BluesKaj to be honest I was sent from the Linux channel to here. I am running Linux Mint,
[18:32] <katimaya> can anyone help me with getting tuxboot working on an old knoppix with kde 3.5.5?
[18:32] <LucidGuy> Plugged in USB drive.  dmesg does note the device as a generic sg2 type 0 .. and comments it as sdb.  Yet fdisk -l does not see a /dev/sd device, nor am I able to mount it.  Opinions?
[18:33] <katimaya> apt-get won't update
[18:33] <BluesKaj> ilhami. dual gpus on a laptop,  must be 'Optimus'
[18:33] <katimaya> i downloaded the source but it won't make
[18:33] <Trudko> guys i have ubuntu 13.10 and i installed apache2 then tried to reinstall it and since then i am not able to start it. i did reintall it again and when I run sudo service apache2 start nothing happens to error  nothing
[18:34] <BluesKaj> katimaya. this is ubuntu support , join# linuxmint
[18:34] <Trudko> i checked /var/log/apache2 but  logs are emtpy I worry i messed up something in ubuntu.
[18:35] <smoores> I have ubuntu on /dev/sda and windows 7 on /dev/sdb, how can I setup the ubuntu drive with a bootloader to choose ubuntu or windows at boot?
[18:36] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Guys, quick question: I need Ubuntu 64-bit if i want to dualboot it on my Win8 Laptop right?
[18:36] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Because 32-bit does not work
[18:36] <tozen> smoores: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair | smoores
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !info boot-repair | smoores
[18:37] <BluesKaj> hmm
[18:41] <weeG> i just got a access to remote server that i plan to use for backup/getting to know linux world a bit :) I downloaded X2Go to gain graphical access to it, but it currently doesnt accept it (atleast it wont connect) i can connect via telnet
[18:41] <BluesKaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair , smoores
[18:41] <weeG> is there any chance someone could tell me how to enable remote desktop from shell ? :)
[18:43] <smoores> BluesKaj, thanks
[18:43] <katimaya> well nobody is answering there and ##linux has me muted even though i followed the directions
[18:43] <katimaya> i just want to burn a new ubuntu disk
[18:44] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: What is the server running now?
[18:44] <katimaya> but i guess i'll just try using some disk cleaner or something and see if i can get the one i have booting *shrugs*
[18:44] <BluesKaj> smoores. I've had good luck with it
[18:44] <weeG> ubuntu 13.4 64bit
[18:45] <weeG> *13.04 i mean
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> weeG  you mean graphical remote connection? otherwise, simply use ssh
[18:47] <weeG> yes...graphical :)
[18:47] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: Generally graphical desktops perform so badly over WAN that it's not worth the small advantage you get from using them to administer the server.  A server should be administered from the command line.
[18:47] <eugene_mac> hello! I have a problem: nouveau drivers are not selected (though, installed): when I try 'lsmod | grep nouveau' i get nothing in return. I try 'modprobe nouveau', but I get and error of "could not insert nouveau: no such device". in case this is important, I load with 'acpi=off' option, as I cannot load otherwise. Can anyone help me?
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: Telnet should not be enabled on the server - it is terribly insecure and likely to lead to your server being hacked.
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
[18:49] <BluesKaj> eugene_mac. look in settings for additional drivers and install one of the nvidias available there , if any
[18:49] <L1nn0s> lllllllllllll
[18:49] <eugene_mac> a sec
[18:49] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: You'll need sudo for that.
[18:49] <weeG> graphical access would be a lot easier for me to start with :)
[18:50] <jhutchins_wk> I think.
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: The first thing to do is to get ssh working, then disable/remove telnet.
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: After that, you can get a VNC server set up to do a desktop, or forward individual applications over X.
[18:51] <TwoRoses> Ciao a tutti!
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: Er, over ssh.
[18:51] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: it now says that I have Nvidia controller (which i knew before)
[18:51] <TwoRoses> !list
[18:52] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: I was wondering which controller it might be, and what it's pciid was.
[18:52] <weeG> okay thanks
 emm, what is pciid?
[18:54] <eugene_mac> BluesKaj: there are no nvidia drivers there, and once I install one from the repository it collapses the system. So I've decided to work with nouveau, but they don't seem to work either!
[18:55] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: You might look into freenx, it's supposed to have superior performance.
[18:55] <weeG> okay...thanks :)
[18:55] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: The pciid is the eight character numerical ID that shows up when you use the -nn  option on lspci.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> eugene_mac. sudo lshw -C video , which graphics ?
[18:56] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: It's what identifies the device to the system and is useful in determining what drivers it can use.
[18:56] <VoidAtValhalla> its called vnc
[18:56] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: 10de:0fe9
[18:56] <eugene_mac> BluesKaj: Nvidia, 10de:0fe9
[18:56] <weeG> btw is it possible to change the language of ubuntu on the fly or does it require re-installation?
[18:57] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: or was it number [0300] (stands before NVidia) you've been looking for?
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: That should work with noubveau.  I wonder if you have some other driver already mounted?
[18:58] <fhf> weeG: its possible just navigate to system settings -> Language and install additional language
[18:58] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: nothing i would have mounted myself
[18:58] <vanishing> weeG: you can change the language anyway you want
[18:58] <vanishing> on the fly
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: There's a lot of noise in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but you may be able to figure out what it's loading.
[18:58] <padrino> Can somebody help me adjust screen brightness
[18:58] <padrino> I've checked google and only solution I found was to install xBacklight (I did sudo-apt get xbacklight) and it installed and then it said to do xbacklight -set 50 which never did anythin
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: Oh, and nouveau is not a kernel module, it's an xorg driver.
[18:59] <marxiano> hi
[18:59] <VoidAtValhalla> ohai
[18:59] <seanz> For some reason, even though my user's umask is 0002, the umask actually being applied to new folders/files is 0022.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: So it wouldn't show up in lsmod.
[18:59] <seanz> Anyone run into that?
[18:59] <padrino> Anybody? I got pretty bad eye strain and gonna have to resort back to Windows if I can figure this out
[19:00] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: "lsmod | grep nouveau" returns a bunch of nouveau?!?!
[19:00] <seanz> padrino: What kind of laptop?
[19:00] <weeG> okay thanks...im now installing gnome ...some VNC tut told me to do that before....kinda noticed that its all french :)
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: Crud, I don't know.  Never had nvidia hardware.
[19:00] <Arch-TK> padrino: did you try restarting?
[19:00] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: no, though I've just found it in Xorg.0.log
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: The high end cards actually have both kernel- and xorg- modules.
[19:00] <padrino> seanz a Sony Vaio, 4GB RAM, not sure of exact model, sorry
[19:00] <BluesKaj> padrino. threatening isn't going to help you , some patience will ,. however
[19:01] <padrino> Arch-TK, yes, didn't work :-( Are there any alternatives to xbacklight?
[19:01] <seanz> padrino: How did you install Ubuntu?