[10:05] <jussi01> jhend60: the changes in the live cd are not persistant, to get persidtant changes you need to install
[10:05] <jhend60> i know but i just cant without X working as im not that pro
[10:06] <sarah> jhend60: when you boot from the cd hit f6, and change splash to nosplash
[10:06] <sarah> worked for me =p
[10:06] <flipstar> problem solved
[10:06] <Gary> jhend60, a live cd really requires more than 512 mb of ram
[10:06] <jhend60> yes well it shoudl bork anyways
[10:06] <jhend60> *work
[10:06] <apparle> jhend60: I am using my PC without sound for about 8 months and not acting like crazy
[10:07] <jussi01> apparle: curiosity q, which sound card?
[10:07] <Aloha> apparle: i got no sound either, i have an isa card that stopped working with gutsy :)
[10:08] <jhend60> ok then. my graphics has a page for linux and has some info. could some1 have a look at it as i dont reallyunderstand how it affects me
[10:08] <jhend60> http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel810/sb/cs-009118.htm#POS15
[10:08] <apparle> I have ATI SB450
[10:08] <jussi01> apparle: can you pastebin the output of lspci for me?
[10:09] <jhend60> i need to download the driver, but I Cant install so it isnt permanent ( i need to reboot to make changes )
[10:10] <jhend60> as i cant install through the live cd ( x doesnt run) so i cant install and make changes
[10:10] <Aloha> jussi01: http://pastebin.com/m217746eb
[10:10] <jhend60> I have tried to get the alternate but it wasnt for kubuntu only ubuntu
[10:11] <apparle> jussi01: I have too many number of problems> No net at home,Not working sound card, ATI card. Right now I am on a different PC. Will bring it tomorrow.
[10:12] <jussi01> apparle: sure
[10:12] <jussi01> Aloha: ummm, ??? where are you running that?
[10:13] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:13] <jhend60> plz help
[10:13] <Aloha> jussi01: i have a Ruby shell heh ;)
[10:13] <jussi01> !repeat | jhend60
[10:13] <ubotu> jhend60: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:13] <jhend60> please dont use uboto
[10:13] <jussi01> Aloha: please run it in a bash shell
[10:13] <jhend60> ubotu
[10:13] <jhend60> it annoys me alot
[10:13] <Aloha> jussi01: heh i was just playing around
[10:13] <jussi01> !guidelines > jhend60:
[10:13] <jhend60> !guidelines
[10:13] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:14] <jussi01> jhend60: you should have got that as a pm
[10:14] <Aloha> jussi01: `lspci` works though ;)
[10:14] <jhend60> right...
[10:14] <jhend60> im not sure linux is just worth the trouble im having
[10:14] <jussi01> Aloha: could you pastebin the output of that for me?
[10:15] <Aloha> Aloha: why?
[10:15] <jussi01> Aloha: you mentioned you didnt have sound.
[10:16] <Agent_bob> jhend60 it's not worth the trouble.    just use osX and forget it
[10:16] <Aloha> jussi01: yeah because i have an isa card that doesn't want to work. lspci doesn't even see it
[10:16] <jhend60> i dont have osx
[10:16] <jhend60> no where near enough money
[10:16] <jhend60> im just really really sick of windows
[10:16] <jussi01> Aloha: got you ;)
[10:17] <Agent_bob> jhend60 did you try the boot opetion vga=normal nosplash      ?
[10:17] <jhend60> yes i have tried that
[10:17] <Agent_bob> did you try safe graphics mode ?
[10:17] <jussi01> jhend60: if you need an alternate cd, the kubuntu one is here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[10:18] <jhend60> i think i will try the alternate.
[10:18] <jhend60> i have already downloaded.
[10:18] <Agent_bob> jhend60 also are you trying the 32 or 64 bit disk ?
[10:18] <jhend60> 32 bit
[10:18] <jhend60> my pc is 32 bit
[10:18] <Agent_bob> how much ram ?
[10:18] <jhend60> 512 mb
[10:18] <jhend60> its stats are attatched to the bug report at
[10:19] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:19]  * squid0 is away: Gone away for now.
[10:20] <jhend60> and anyways, i prefer a GUI to text based, and what if it still wont work even after its installed!
[10:21] <jhend60> or is the alternate more of a windows xp boot isntall type thing that sorta looks like a gui but really basic
[10:21] <ZTeasA> lo peeps
[10:22] <jussi01> !away > squid0
[10:22] <jhend60> im sick of xp as every so often my explorer.exe crashes
[10:22] <jhend60> then loads again
[10:22] <jhend60> and i cant find a trace of any viruses
[10:23] <jhend60> and there are no similar things like this
[10:23] <jussi01> jhend60: this is not the place for windows help, please try ##windows for that
[10:23] <squid0> thanks, jussi01. I have changed my settings.
[10:23] <jhend60> i no
[10:23] <jussi01> squid0: :)
[10:23] <jhend60> sorry
[10:23] <squid0> :)
[10:23] <pushax> apparle: thx fixed it by installing radeo driver and using old xor.conf.  the new install in alpha 5 wasn't liked for some reason.
[10:24] <apparle> pushax: which ATI driver. Please tell
[10:24] <jhend60> :( Why is my problem never solved? Ill try going into kubuntu one last time
[10:24] <jussi01> jhend60: so you know how to fix it from the command line (tty), correct?
[10:24] <pushax> apparle repository xorg-server radeon driver
[10:24] <jhend60> by getting the updated package
[10:24] <pushax> apparle: repository xorg-server radeon driver
[10:25] <jhend60> such as what pushax just said
[10:25] <apparle> pushax: which hardware card
[10:25] <Agent_bob> jhend60 safe graphics mode boot
[10:25] <jhend60> still doesnt work
[10:25] <jhend60> ive tried safe grapchis
[10:25] <jussi01> jhend60: great, so install via the alternate disk I linked you to, it will take you to the tty, update the package and its working, voila :)
[10:25] <pushax> apparle: it still didn't work with the radeon driver as the xorg.xonf was faulty in hardy heron.  x700
[10:26] <jhend60> ok i will need to buy some cds just great...
[10:26] <apparle> tell me which card do you have ATI Radeon xxxx
[10:26] <jhend60> oh no
[10:26] <jhend60> i have some rewritable dvds
[10:26] <jhend60> thanks all
[10:26] <pushax> apparle: radeon x700
[10:26] <jhend60> ill be back some other time
[10:26] <jhend60> 15 mins
[10:26] <Agent_bob> thanks for the warning.
[10:27] <apparle> help with LIRC please someone
[10:28] <Agent_bob> !info lirc
[10:28] <ubotu> lirc (source: lirc): Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[10:28] <apparle> llutz: Are you there?
[10:30] <Sbucatone_> hello but zenity is for gnome and fo kde is there anotherone ?
[10:30] <jussi01> !info zenity
[10:30] <ubotu> zenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1738 kB, installed size 4196 kB
[10:31] <Agent_bob> apparle would http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=lirc%20howto&btnG=Search be of any use to you ?
[10:31] <apparle> Sbucatone_: I think Kdialog
[10:31] <danny_> Hey, I am trying to play an mp3 in amarok but i get a error message "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported." Anyone knows what this is?
[10:31] <Agent_bob> !demux
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <Agent_bob> !mp3
[10:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:34] <apparle> Sbucatone_: Does Kdialog good for you or should I suggest anything else
[10:36] <remedialjoe_> where are all the screensavers?  :(
[10:37] <remedialjoe_> i searched in add/remove.. and the ones from the gnome suite apparently don't work in kde anymore? :(  any suggestions
[10:37] <t30_> hello
[10:37] <apparle> remedialjoe: Do you want to install new Screensavers or configure what are already installed
[10:38] <remedialjoe_> apparle: install new ones ..  nice 3d animations etc .. i have nvidia drivers installed etc.. the default opengl screensavers work..
[10:38] <pushax> should python py files be executable attribute?  can someone check if wine has all there py files exec on?  in /var/lib/python-support/python2.5
[10:39] <pushax> please
[10:39] <remedialjoe_> pushax:  i don't quite understand
[10:39] <remedialjoe_> i downloaded a python wifi applet and the .py just ran
[10:40] <pushax> remedialjoe_: in /var/lib/python-support/python2.5 there are filename.py 's  do you have wine poython files that all have their executable stutus on?  I noticed some of mine aren't and I'm having problems with Wine.
[10:40] <remedialjoe_> pushax: what's the ls flag
[10:40] <remedialjoe_> which ls flag
[10:41] <remedialjoe_> will tell me the attributes
[10:41] <pushax> remedialjoe_: only onw wine.py file is marked with x.  they rest are rw
[10:42] <remedialjoe_> yah i get what you are saying but when i type ls it just says filenames.. i need the switch for showing attributes/etc
[10:42] <pushax> remedialjoe_: wineconfig.py is the one with x.
[10:43] <remedialjoe_> you aren't getting what i am saying
[10:43] <apparle> LIRC please help
[10:43] <remedialjoe_> when i type "ls" in that directory.. it's not giving me the flag
[10:43] <remedialjoe_> s
[10:44] <llutz> remedialjoe ls -l
[10:44] <remedialjoe_> ty llutz
[10:44] <remedialjoe_> pushax lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     52 Feb 25 21:37 wineconfig.py -> /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/wineconfig.py
[10:45] <pushax> remedialjoe_:  thx.  is your lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     56 2008-02-27 00:46 winewrite.py -> /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/winewrite.py
[10:45] <remedialjoe_> yes and winewrite
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> er read*
[10:46] <pushax> remedialjoe_: how about -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  17046 2008-02-27 00:45 winewrite.pyc
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> the pyc's are different .. all -rw-r--r--
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> with a 1 yah
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> just like that
[10:47] <remedialjoe_> looks like you are good
[10:47] <pushax> remedialjoe_: arr ok. thx.  readin in cli is much better. I was not seeing th atributes properly in Krusader
[10:47] <remedialjoe_> np
[10:48] <pushax> remedialjoe_: I wish ubuntu has a ftp of the default install, so people could inspect the default files and their modes.
[10:48] <remedialjoe_> remotely?  just ssh in and ls -l like llutz said
[10:49] <lupul> hi there. can i somehow install kde4 desktop effects in kde3? without compiz or beryl
[10:49] <remedialjoe_> well he said the ls -l part
[10:50] <pushax> remedialjoe_: it's a wish that they had a ftp site that stored a default install for those that want to see the setting as they originally stand
[10:50] <remedialjoe_> pushax:  or you mean via gui .. and see it line by line?
[10:50] <remedialjoe_> ohh
[10:50] <remedialjoe_> well you could always run it inside virtualbox
[10:51] <pushax> brb. thx for help
[10:51] <remedialjoe_> i hear you tho
[10:51] <remedialjoe_> np gl
[10:51] <remedialjoe_> bedtime for bonzo.. will try to add neato krad screensavers tomorrow
[11:00] <apparle> anone help mw with lirc
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:09] <apparle> ActionParsnip: know anything about LIRC??
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> apparle, let me google. rings a bell
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> apparle, I know of it but never used it
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> wassup?
[11:10]  * pushax is away: Gone away for now.
[11:11] <apparle> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709159 See this
[11:11] <apparle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709159 help
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> apparle, what remote do you have?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> apparle, and what are your options?
[11:16] <ali3n51> hello,  how to change bootsplash
[11:16] <ali3n51> any program to change bootsplash
[11:16] <TimeTraveller> I have a problem, i can log in with my user/pass but when i want to do a sudo it wont accept my password
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !bootsplash | ali3n51
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <ali3n51> bootsplash is the same to bootscreen like windows
[11:17] <ere4si> !usplash | ali3n51
[11:17] <ubotu> ali3n51: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ali3n51, did you even google for the answer? http://jayant7k.blogspot.com/2007/06/change-boot-splash-screen-ubuntu.html
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> TimeTraveller, are you a member of adm?
[11:19] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I cannot tell you right now as I am outside on a different computer. I have the remote of Philips DVP5106K
[11:20] <TimeTraveller> ActionParsnip: probably not, i just installed this box
[11:20] <vr074816> ciao
[11:20] <vr074816> !addon
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <vr074816> !list
[11:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:21] <ere4si> vr074816, what are you chasing?
[11:21] <theTheme> Hey everyone.  I have a file storage question.  I have a 2gb flash card that I use in my digial camera and I have a rather large file I'd like to transfer to a mac computer.  When I try to mount it in kubuntu it says it doesn't recognize the file system (which is labeled as vfat) Is there anyway I can write to this card and still be able to format it back in my camera for later use?
[11:22] <ali3n51> kubuntu linux is compatible valhalla linux
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/ may help
[11:24] <apparle> Is there a way to protect a USB drive
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> is google down?
[11:24] <ali3n51> what is the difference between bootsplash and splash scrern
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> apparle, how do you mean protect?
[11:25] <storbeck> bootsplash and usplash is the same thing.
[11:26] <apparle> make a secure section which can be accessed only after a password. If wrong passord, access or deletion of files not possible
[11:26] <theTheme> Thanks actionParsnip, I'll give that a try
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apparle, you could make yourself the owner thennot give any other user access using chmod
[11:31] <flipstar> you could also encrypt it
[11:49] <amerigo> BUONGIORNO A TUTTI
[11:56] <harmental80> is there a newbie-proof of upgrading to hardy?
[11:57] <amerigo> SHOT THE QUESTUION BUDDY
[11:58] <jussi01> harmental80: go read the topic in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[11:59] <jussi01> !caps | amerigo
[11:59] <ubotu> amerigo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:59] <ere4si> !caps | amerigo
[11:59] <harmental80> jussi01: thx
[11:59] <amerigo> sorry... I care your ears...
[12:05] <storbeck> Ooh, a Time Traveler
[12:13] <Plantain> Forward Time Travellers to reception, Backward Time Travellers - you should know where to go.
[12:14] <storbeck> ActionParsnip: If you're having the same trouble in kubuntu as you are in #windows, install the win32codecs :)
[12:22] <Happy____> join #arduino
[12:24] <david_> does Envy come with Gutsy?
[12:25] <kai> Does any one know how you can change how amarok handles artists
[12:25] <flipstar> !envy | david_
[12:25] <ubotu> david_: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:26] <kai> I have a lot mix tapes under various artists, how can I change it so it sees it as the name of the DJ?
[12:29] <david_> great thanks
[12:29] <david_> no such file or directory
[12:30] <david_> ?
[12:30] <jussi01> david_: ?
[12:30] <jussi01> what did you just do?
[12:30] <david_> I put it konsole
[12:30] <david_> typed it
[12:30] <jussi01> what?
[12:30] <david_>  /msg ubotu binarydriver
[12:30] <jussi01> no, do that in irc :)
[12:31] <david_> lol, not what I was suposed to do, eh,  lol
[12:31] <jussi01> then the bot will message you about binary drivers
[12:31] <jussi01> :)
[12:31] <david_> lol oh ok
[12:31] <david_>  /msg ubotu binarydriver
[12:31] <jussi01> david_: - the space
[12:32] <david_> ahh
[12:32] <david_> picky picky
[12:32] <jussi01> the / indicates a command, so needs to be the first character
[12:34] <storbeck> kai: http://debaday.debian.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/write-tags-selected.jpg
[12:34] <storbeck> Select the tracks you want to change the artist on, open that menu list, and select the "edit 'artist' tag for selected tracks"
[12:36] <david_> "
[12:36] <david_> The software source for the package
[12:36] <david_> nvidia-glx-new
[12:36] <david_> is not enabled.
[12:37] <david_> how do I do that?
[12:38] <kai> When I clickon the track I get the artist name and everything, but in the content pane it show as various artist there and when I use cover manger.
[12:40] <kai> I found it
[12:40] <kai> Thanks tho
[12:41] <kai> If your right click in the content pane click on don't show under various artist
[12:55] <proge> while compiling mac80211 i get an error: Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/'
[12:55] <proge> but should'nt the Makefile be under /build?
[12:55] <proge> or am i lost? :)
[12:56] <willis_> You proberly need to install the various kernel header files perhaps.
[12:57] <proge> hmm, u mean other than linux-header-"uname -r"?
[12:58] <willis_> Not sure. May be it wants other stuff.   Seems odd it wants a makefile  however.
[13:00] <proge> ok, well i'll just keep searching, thanks anyway :)
[13:01] <jussi01> proge: have you googled the exact error, usually there is some help there :)
[13:01] <proge> yeah i have :P
[13:01] <willis_> where did this mac80211 source come from? Could be some odd thing in it - that its wanting the full kjernel source.
[13:01] <proge> btw would it be hard to upgrade from 2.6.22-14generic to 2.6.24?
[13:02] <jussi01> !kernel
[13:02] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[13:02] <proge> intellinuxwireless.org willis_
[13:06] <proge> ok thanks jussi01 guess i'll try and do that :P
[13:07] <jussi01> :)
[13:08] <proge> Believe me, this isn't interesting at all <- this one there is just irresistible ^^
[13:09] <anto> Ubuntu  france ?
[13:09] <anto> ya quelqun
[13:09] <proge> would guess it's #ubuntu.fr? :S and for Kubuntu, #kubuntu.fr?
[13:10] <anto> thx
[13:10] <storbeck> !fr
[13:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:10] <proge> ok, well, near enough ;P
[13:30] <billyBobO> does anyone know if Wubi will be available for Kubuntu 8.04?  Or will kubuntu-desktop be needed to install afterwards?
[13:31] <jussi01> billyBobO: #ubuntu+1 is more likely to have an answer for you
[13:31] <billyBobO> jussi01: thanks!
[13:32] <storbeck> billyBobO: Yes.
[13:33] <storbeck> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080224-wubi-arrives-a-look-at-ubuntu-8-04-alpha-5.html
[13:33] <billyBobO> yes, wubi for kubuntu as well, storbeck?  great, thank you!
[13:35] <dogma> !fr
[13:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:35] <storbeck> Yes, billyBobO
[13:38] <nicolah> hi guys using kde is it possible to have *all* windows without top border ? (since I'm using a tiny notebook with low resolution) thanks
[13:39] <storbeck> killall kwin
[13:40] <storbeck> granted, you won't be able to move or close anything
[13:40] <storbeck> other than going to file -> close
[13:41] <nicolah> killing kwin won't let me us  the alt+tab function to switch windows
[13:42] <nicolah> (just tested)
[13:42] <storbeck> Interesting
[13:44] <nicolah> you understand that without top border and without top panel that's the only way to switch windows
[13:44] <nicolah> I'm using xandros+kde on the eeepc so I'm looking for  way to gain as much space as possible
[13:45] <storbeck> killall kwin killed your top panel? as in your menubar?
[13:46] <nicolah> uhm let me try again
[13:47] <nicolah> I don't know if it kills the top panel because it's hidden and it shows whenever i reach the top left corner, but with kwin killed it does'nt show
[13:47] <storbeck> Hm, weird. I wasn't aware it did that
[13:47] <nicolah> if I run kwin it shows again, so I don't know if it kills it of if it prevent from showing
[13:48] <AndrewB> Hmm, where can I help translate kubuntu? I can't find it on launchpad
[13:49] <storbeck> Well, the window decorations are handled by kwin
[13:49] <nicolah> is there a way to tell kwin just to create windows without top border ?
[13:50] <nicolah> that would make kde great for eeepc
[13:59] <storbeck> I know that when a lot of people install compiz they lose their window decorations
[14:00] <storbeck> (not intended)
[14:00] <storbeck> I suppose you could try to recreate the mistake
[14:00] <nicolah> uhm
[14:01] <flipstar> that comes when they dont start an window decorator with compiz ..
[14:01] <flipstar> or even install so compiz can start it by itself ..
[14:01] <storbeck> Eh, not always
[14:01] <anto> hey homies
[14:01] <storbeck> Sometimes the theme itself doesn't work right with compiz
[14:02] <storbeck> But hey, it was just a suggestion
[14:03] <storbeck> Isn't there a default window decoration that you can pick that basically has no top border, except 3 buttons that stick out (min,max,x)
[14:06] <storbeck> Or maybe just deleting all the installed themes
[14:07] <noaXess> hi all
[14:08] <noaXess> wich pecl package i need to install over pear.. that i can use all the pecl features? pecl_http?
[14:10] <nicolah> #kde guys helped me setting the advanced window decorations for all windows without borders
[14:11] <storbeck> How?
[14:12] <kpenrose> Anyone running openvpn?
[14:13] <noaXess> ou.. sorry. wring channel :)
[14:15] <Lynoure> kpenrose: unless you are taking a poll on it's popularity, just ask your question and someone might answer
[14:16] <storbeck> Haha
[14:16] <tekstacy> is there a "right" place to make a folder for all users to share?
[14:16] <storbeck> Good one, Lynoure
[14:19] <Lynoure> tekstacy: Often giving full permission to a folder for all users is a bad idea, the place is not that standard as the result. Consider making one for group  users  instead, not likely that all your system users need to get there too
[14:19] <kpenrose> The question is too long to type for an audience that can't help.
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> kpenrose» what?
[14:20] <Lynoure> kpenrose: If you are taking a poll, I do like openvpn, but no, not using it currently (hmph, ciscos)
[14:20] <tekstacy> Lynoure, ahh, makes sense. Thank you
[14:20] <kpenrose> I'll ask in the #openvpn channel
[14:21] <Lynoure> kpenrose: I hope they'll help you then.
[14:22] <flipstar> is there an overview which shortcut is for which special letter ?
[14:22] <kpenrose> Thanks
[14:22] <tekstacy> So I asked the guy in the BestBuy in Christiana,DE "Show me one of these new Linux machines".
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» eeepc's?
[14:23] <Lynoure> kpenrose: "is anyone using foobar" is just not a good opening, because if all that have chime in it can cause quite a flood. and it still does not measure their ability to answer the question
[14:23] <flipstar> foobar rocks :=)
[14:23] <tekstacy> yeah, and dell, and a few others are making them now
[14:23] <tekstacy> He tells me "Linux is considered hacker tools and we don't support that"
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» best buy sells dells?
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» lol
[14:27] <tekstacy> I told the guy linux isn't about hacking, but hackers use it because they're smart enough not to use vista
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> linux is all about hacking..... it is NOT however, about cracking
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> but try explaining that to a BEst Buy employee
[14:28] <tekstacy> yeah, but that point would have gone right over his head
[14:29] <anto> french ?*
[14:29] <tekstacy> They do have one k box for sale....    I got bored waiting for my friends
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> did they have any linux machines though?
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !anto
[14:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[14:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:30] <tekstacy> None, no store I have ever seen in DE does
[14:30] <Jahromeo> remove - only removes the installed program ? but purge - removes program + install files? - am i getting that correctly?
[14:31] <tekstacy> I will be the first
[14:31] <flipstar> Jahromeo: no..purge does remove completly
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> Jahromeo» purge removes config files too
[14:31] <flipstar> but only these in /etc/
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> right
[14:33] <tekstacy> So this week, I've been without a windows box for 6 months now.
[14:34]  * nosrednaekim hasn't used windows (other than fixing freinds computers) for 3 years :)
[14:34] <tekstacy> To you guys who hang out in here and answer the questions....
[14:34] <tekstacy> THANK YOU GUYS
[14:35] <nosrednaekim> You are very welcome... and i'm probably right in saying the first 2 weeks were the hardest?
[14:35] <tekstacy> nosrednaekim, yes
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» missing windows programs or just learning how Linux works?
[14:37] <tekstacy> both. But I learned how to use Wine, that helped alot
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> long live WINE :)
[14:37] <tekstacy> After a week or so, I get used to "finding the answers" when things go bad, then it ges easy
[14:38] <soussou> hi all
[14:38] <tekstacy> Honestly, I am so f**king happy with this, it's like the fun I had first learning
[14:38] <soussou> is there a kde4 release in the works?
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> yep..... giyf.
[14:38] <soussou> tekstacy: what r u talking about?
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> soussou» yeah... for hardy
[14:39] <soussou> nosrednaekim: r u serious? I downloaded hardy alpha 5, and there's no kde4 desktop, just dolphin, and some packages
[14:39] <soussou> but nothing really like a full fledged kde4 desktop
[14:39] <AgentZ86> HI all, fyi no effect on kubuntu and fxcm.com java app, same as ubuntu, my lack of that one button, (right click)(menu) stop/loss just doesn't work, but I"m going to do a fresh kubuntu on separate partition to confirm. Then I have to conclude it's something to do with my java installation or java webstart
[14:39] <tekstacy> kubuntu in general, I noticed this morning it's been six months w/o windows
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> soussou» there will be two cds for hardy.... kde3 and kde4, the kde4 CD is still int he works
[14:40] <soussou> cool, thanks for the good news
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» or web browser?
[14:40] <tekstacy> if you just want to "check it out" openSUSE has a live cd w/ kde4
[14:40] <soussou> I would hate seeing some other distro beating kubuntu to the punch
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> or use the Gutsy kde4 CD
[14:41] <soussou> tekstacy: I did try opensuse 11, it's kde4 for sure, but too buggy, it keeps crashing all the time
[14:42] <flipstar> i just tried fedora9 ..was stable for me :)
[14:42] <flipstar> it comes with kde4 as default
[14:42] <soussou> does fedora9 have kde4 desktop?
[14:43] <flipstar> yes but it still is a alpha or something
[14:43] <soussou> woow, I swear, I did download it, tried it in vbox, and gave it up, didn't see the point of another gnome distro, ubuntu beats the crap out of fedora
[14:43] <tekstacy> isn't fedora k?
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» no...mostly GNOME
[14:43] <flipstar> haha i just used it to fix my kubuntu :)
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> though they are trying to do a little more KDE
[14:44] <flipstar> it has kde4 ..
[14:44] <AgentZ86> I like K, best, but I've been using Ubuntu and have trouble deciding they both work so well now with just about all the apps I like to use
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> soussou» BTW. you can grab the KDE 4.0.1  packages in hardy..
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> apt-get install kde4-core
[14:44] <AgentZ86> how can one choose between gnome or kde they are both good now
[14:44] <JuJuBee> Can someone look at dmesg output and tell me if my USB drive is hozed? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57577/
[14:44] <tekstacy> I think someone gave a fedora w/ k cd, but I didn't care for fedora
[14:44] <flipstar> AgentZ86: just install both..
[14:44] <soussou> nosrednaekim: does it install a kde4 desktop too?
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> soussou» yup
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> !info kde4-core (hardy)
[14:45] <soussou> nice, how does ir behave?
[14:45] <ubotu> kde4-core (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 core modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB
[14:45] <soussou> stable enough to be considered for sure?
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> soussou» its stable for me....(on gutsy)
[14:46] <soussou> I will give it a shot immediately, and report back in 30 minutes
[14:46] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: :)
[14:46] <flipstar> JuJuBee: /dev/sdb ?
[14:46] <soussou> I have ubuntu ultimate edition, with both desktops: kde + gnome
[14:46] <flipstar> lol ultimate edition
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> jussi01» but what is the factoid?
[14:46] <JuJuBee> Yes flipstar ( it is a flash drive )
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[14:46] <tekstacy> I only have ubuntu home premium  :(
[14:47] <jussi01> langpack
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> ok
[14:47] <flipstar> ubuntu comes as ultimate as default :)
[14:47] <soussou> yep, UE is pretty decent, it comes with plenty of software
[14:47] <Pici> !ultimate
[14:47] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[14:47] <jussi01> !mint | soussou
[14:47] <ubotu> soussou: please see above
[14:47] <soussou> I like the art work too
[14:47] <jussi01> hehe
[14:47] <wad> Good morning.
[14:47] <soussou> I am not seeking support, and I am not a developer
[14:48] <soussou> I am here hanging out with fellow linux users
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> morning wad
[14:48] <wad> I'm trying to figure out how to connect my kubuntu laptop to my home WPA wireless network. Let me explain what I've done so far:
[14:48] <soussou> I don't see the point behind trashing UE, or mint, or any derived distros, they're all cousins
[14:49] <jussi01> soussou: you may find #kubuntu-offtopic more to your needs :)
[14:49] <soussou> jussi01: I am not seeking any help
[14:49] <JuJuBee> flipstar : any suggestions ?
[14:49] <soussou> just chilling with you boys
[14:49] <JuJuBee> or is it toast ?
[14:49] <soussou> I am not trolling either
[14:49] <wad> 1. When I bring my laptop between home and work, my network nettings would get completely munged. So eventually I just wiped out network manager, and wrote some scripts to connect me to my home wired LAN, work wired LAN, work wireless WEP network, or wireless PCMCIA sprint card. All good so far.
[14:49] <flipstar> JuJuBee: try fsck ..
[14:50] <soussou> so just be easy on me guys, OK?
[14:50] <flipstar> if you have ext3 you'll be lucky
[14:50] <JuJuBee> Thanks, never thought of that...
[14:50] <JuJuBee> The drive is not ext2, I think it is fat32
[14:50] <soussou> can I ask a generla filesystem question too?
[14:50] <JuJuBee> I use it between windows and linux
[14:51] <flipstar> oh ..
[14:51] <soussou> I have about 160 MB of free space
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> wad» use wpa-supplicant
[14:51] <flipstar> then you might have some data loose..
[14:51] <soussou> how do I claim it and make it part of my filesystem?
[14:51] <wad> 2. But despite spending several hours trying to manually configure this laptop to connect to my home wireless WPA network, I have so far failed. So now I just did "apt-get install knetworkmanager" which installs networkmanager, and tinkered with the GUI settings. My objective is to get it to connect, then harvest the config files, so I can do it manually on my own.
[14:51] <jussi01> soussou: sure, just trying to get across that this is a support channel, not a place for general chatter (#kubuntu-offtopic)
[14:51] <flipstar> soussou: try qtparted
[14:51] <wad> nosrednaekim: Of course. I've spent about an hour trying to get that to work.
[14:51] <wad> nosrednaekim: no joy so far.
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> wad» so have I..... the only thing that I found that works is Knetwrkmanager, as much as I hate it
[14:52] <soussou> does formatting a partition automartically makes it part of the filesystem?
[14:52] <soussou> *automatically
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> soussou» what filesystem?
[14:52] <soussou> linux filesystem
[14:52] <wad> nosrednaekim: so, you got it to work! Can you give me some hints?
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> soussou» well, it can be mounted.
[14:52] <soussou> I have a small chunk of my hard disk free
[14:53] <flipstar> no..not generally formating..try qtparted!
[14:53] <wad> nosrednaekim: I've tried several things, and I can't get it to show me a list of available networks. What's the magic?
[14:53] <soussou> very small, about 160 MB
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> wad» no... knetworkmanager just worked.... though i'm not useing it right now (no WPA)
[14:53] <wad> rats.
[14:53] <patoruzu> sorry..i felt: hey guys...i've been dragging this problem for a week now...i dont seem to find a solution: after i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 the kded process goes to the roof each time I plug an usb drive.....
[14:53] <patoruzu> any ideas?
[14:53] <wad> I'll killed knetworkmanager, and now I'm trying to resurrect it.
[14:53] <JuJuBee> How do I use dosfsck to check /dev/sdb ?
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> wad» no list of availalable netowrks? comment out everything in your /etc/network/interfaces
[14:54] <wad> nosrednaekim: okay!
[14:54] <JuJuBee> or fsck if possible
[14:54] <flipstar> JuJuBee: fsck will automaticly try to determine..just type <sudo fsck /dev/sdb>
[14:54] <wad> nosrednaekim: anything else before I go offline and try it?
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> !diskcheck
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diskcheck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> wad» yeah... after editing it... kill knetowrkmanager and run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then restart knetworkmanager
[14:55] <AgentZ86> anyone- when installing kubuntu on seperate partition with Ubuntu on my first partition etc. should I create and use a seperate swap as well, or no problems using the same Ubuntu swap ??
[14:55] <JuJuBee> flipstar : fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb
[14:55] <JuJuBee> Tells me the superblock could not be read...
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» they can use the same swap as long as you don't hibernate
[14:55] <wad> nosrednaekim: allright. Thanks!
[14:56] <flipstar> err then try fsck.vfat it was vfat or ?
[14:56]  * wad goes offline
[14:56] <soussou> never mind, I tried qparted, that small chunk of free space doesn't even show
[14:56] <AgentZ86> hmm, I'll make seperate swap cause I don't know if I hybernate or not, I just use defaults
[14:56] <AgentZ86> thanks
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» do you tell it to hibernate when you sut down?
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> *shut
[14:57] <AgentZ86> no
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> then you don't
[14:57] <AgentZ86> thanks I just restart I don't think I've ever turned off the computer, and it just uses it's defaults whatever it has on it when I installed Ubuntu, I'm assuming Kubuntu will do the same, ??? right
[14:58] <soussou> what would be the best IDE for developing qt4 apps?
[14:59] <soussou> I know it's off topic, but I was wondering if anyone here does code using qt4
[14:59] <soussou> and what IDE would they recommend
[14:59] <soussou> kdevelop?
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> soussou» kdevelop4 (when it arrives)
[14:59] <jussi01> soussou: you would be better asking in #kubuntu-devel
[15:00] <soussou> how about qdevelop?
[15:00] <jussi01> (politely)
[15:00] <soussou> I am there
[15:00] <soussou> thanks
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> soussou» didn't know it existed :)
[15:01] <Lynoure> soussou: one can also use eclipse, Trolltech has a plugin thing for it
[15:01] <JuJuBee> flipstar : fsck.vfat /dev/sdb  dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error
[15:01] <soussou> thanks
[15:01] <soussou> will try that one
[15:03] <MartinCleaver> how do I tell how much space a ext3 filesystem is using without mounting it? When I use dumpe2fs -h /dev/VolGroup00/VMs I see Block count:    95,961,088 and Free blocks:   77,311,025, Block size:   4096, which to me makes me think 18,555,230 used * 4,096/1,024 = 74,604,920 bytes or (guessing) about 70GiB and 4,096*77,311,025 / 1024 = 316,665,958,400 bytes free, = ~ 310GiB free from a 95,961,088 * 4096 / 1024 = 383,844,352 = ~ 370GiB drive; have I d
[15:03] <MartinCleaver> une2fs seems to report in blocks too, I can't see anything that outputs in human grokable numbers that I can also feed to resize2fs
[15:04] <flipstar> JuJuBee: how big is the disc? are the data important if you all fits+you have time you might run <sudo badblocks -s -v -n /dev/sdb> if noone has a better idea..
[15:05] <flipstar> JuJuBee: but you did ran it with sudo ? the fsck ?
[15:05] <JuJuBee> What will that do?  It is a 4G drive (I am pretty sure)  Yes used sudo...
[15:06] <arschknacker1> -irc.ubuntu.com
[15:06] <wad> It worked! I'm on my WPA wireless network!!
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> wad» cool
[15:06] <arschknacker1> >)
[15:07] <arschknacker1> >(
[15:07] <arschknacker1> >((
[15:07] <arschknacker1> (<<<
[15:07] <flipstar> JuJuBee: you probably cant use this drive as a internal ?
[15:07] <arschknacker1> <(
[15:07] <JuJuBee> How do you mean internal?
[15:07] <wad> But... I'd like to be able to do this without the network manager interfering. Do you know where these settings are stored? Can I do something in /etc/network/interfaces to make it work, once I throw out network manager?
[15:07] <patoruzu> anybody?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> arschknacker1» this is a support channel... not a channel to try out your latest smilies
[15:08] <jpatrick> arschknacker1: please do not do that
[15:08] <JuJuBee> It is a flash stick
[15:08] <wad> Like an "ifup wlan0" sort of thing. :)
[15:08] <flipstar> oh
[15:08] <wad> my /etc/network/interfaces is empty.
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> wad» possibly... you have to look at the wpa-supplicant config file knetwork manager writes
[15:08] <jpatrick> arschknacker1: and please change your nick to something more politer
[15:08] <JuJuBee> badblocks running now...
[15:08] <wad> nosrednaekim: okay!
[15:08] <JuJuBee> up to 40000
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> wad» though I don't know where the heck that is ;)
[15:09] <wad> I found them.
[15:09] <wad> I think.
[15:09] <flipstar> you killes him
[15:09] <arschknacker1> on't know where the heck that is
[15:13] <flipstar> JuJuBee: the number at the end is important..
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[15:14] <flipstar> hi
[15:14] <JuJuBee> flipstar : at the end of the test?
[15:14] <flipstar> yep..
[15:14] <JuJuBee> I assume that by block they mean 1K block?
[15:14] <flipstar> yes
[15:15] <JuJuBee> so 4GB = 4,000,000 blocks?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> what's right way to have more than one kate text file open simultaneously on the desktop ?
[15:15] <flipstar> JuJuBee: yes
[15:15] <JuJuBee> Damn... only up to 216,000
[15:16] <flipstar> BluesKaj: you want all text in one window or all in seperate windows? can you set it in kate-->setting-->sessions
[15:18] <flipstar> JuJuBee: hm you cant mount it anyway ?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> flipstar , seperate windows
[15:18] <JuJuBee> wouldnt mount it
[15:18] <JuJuBee> will not using -v make it go faster?
[15:19] <flipstar> -v is for --verbose ..
[15:20] <JuJuBee> mount: /dev/sdb: can't read superblock
[15:21] <flipstar> mount -t fat maybe ?
[15:21] <JuJuBee> -t vfat
[15:22] <flipstar> hm you could try to replicate it with dd and then reformat..
[15:23] <JuJuBee> never used dd to replicate a drive to a image...
[15:23] <BluesKaj> yes flipstar ,but what's the option in sessions ?
[15:24] <tekstacy> Bye all
[15:25] <JuJuBee> flipstar : dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > flash_dirve.img.gz
[15:25] <JuJuBee> dd: reading `/dev/sdb': Input/output error
[15:25] <JuJuBee> 0+0 records in
[15:25] <JuJuBee> 0+0 records out  0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.0167365 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
[15:26] <flipstar> :/
[15:27] <mrunagi_> what would the command line string be to extract files from a zip?
[15:32] <tcm_> mrunagi_: unzip foo.zip
[15:32] <mrunagi_> sigh
[15:32] <mrunagi_> im getting an error
[15:32] <mrunagi_> this is no good
[15:33] <genii> Likely file is corrupt
[15:33] <vijay_> hi
[15:34] <mrunagi_> that makes me sad
[15:35] <vijay_> can any1 tell me . why i m getting slow net speed then win?
[15:37] <flipstar> http://www.speedguide.net:8080
[15:38] <raul> hi! can anyone tell me why i cannot use java in Kubuntu (at least in the beta Hardy?)
[15:39] <raul> is that a bug... or is it just that the version that is compatible is not available yet?
[15:41] <genii> raul: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <BluesKaj> genii, what's right way to have more than one kate text file open simultaneously on the desktop, cant open more than one at a time ?
[15:44] <genii> BluesKaj: I mainly use nano, so not much help :)
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> nano?  not vi?  not emacs?  you must not be cool then -_-
[15:47] <BluesKaj> <--old windows excel etc so , i need my desktop "fix"
[15:47] <amerigo> rooms
[15:47] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: I use emacs when I'm ssh'd into our bsd servers, vi when I have to use vipw or visudo...otherwise I like the lowly old nano :)
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: only kidding...  i have no room to talk, i use gedit or kate, depending on the environment, nano if i'm in ssh
[15:48]  * BluesKaj wonders why kate allows only one instance of open text file on desktop
[15:49] <BluesKaj> something about sessions but there doesn't seem to be any options that make sense to me
[15:49] <genii> BluesKaj: The same file opened twice or 2 different files?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> different files
[15:49] <BluesKaj> like copy & pasting back & forth etc
[15:50] <flipstar> on ->window->new windows you can duplicate it..
[15:50] <mefisto__> I have a kaffeine update that wants to remove kaffeine-xine. Does that sound right? is the kaffeine package update repacing the old kaffeine package AND the kaffeine-xine package?
[15:50] <mefisto__> *replacing
[15:51] <genii> BluesKaj: The new window, then opening another file in the new window worked for me
[15:53] <jetsaredim> is it my imagination or does the new version of kaffeine not need kaffeine-xine?
[15:53] <mefisto__> jetsaredim: just what I was asking about
[15:55] <jetsaredim> mefisto__: was thinking that since xine is the default engine that maybe it got incorporated into the main package
[15:55] <BluesKaj> it's kaffeine-xine in the 0.8.5 version
[15:55] <jetsaredim> yea - the version i'm seeing in my adept window is 0.8.6-0ubuntu3~gutsy1
[15:55] <mefisto__> jetsaredim: I think you're right, but it would be nice if someone could confirm this
[15:56] <jetsaredim> yea - there's nothing in the changelog
[15:56] <Waterstoff> well
[15:56] <Waterstoff> perhaps you should update
[15:56] <Waterstoff> and try using it
[15:56] <Waterstoff> and if it works
[15:56] <Waterstoff> you have your answer
[15:56] <Waterstoff> if it doesn't work, you have your answer
[15:56] <BluesKaj> jetsaredim:  you on hardy ?
[15:56] <jetsaredim> BluesKaj: nope
[15:57] <BluesKaj> !enter | Waterstoff
[15:57] <ubotu> Waterstoff: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:57] <Dragnslcr> I noticed the same thing this morning. I haven't had a chance to try Kaffeine though
[15:57] <flipstar> removing kaffeine was one of the first things i did..
[15:57] <Waterstoff> !annoying | BluesKaj
[15:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about annoying - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <jetsaredim> flipstar: y?
[15:58] <Waterstoff> codeine++
[15:58] <flipstar> i prefer gmplayer & vlc
[15:58] <Waterstoff> !english | jetsaredim
[15:58] <ubotu> jetsaredim: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:58] <BluesKaj> I'm using the default version ...just did a clean install and adept notifier is on ice ATM...I don't trust the upgrades after the update fiasco of the last 2 days
[15:59] <jetsaredim> Waterstoff: ?
[15:59] <flipstar> aside from that kaffeine always did crashed in the past :/
[15:59] <Waterstoff> jetsaredim: I don't believe the word "y" exists in the english language.
[16:00] <mefisto__> Waterstoff: how does this help anyone?
[16:00] <jetsaredim> phonetically, y == why
[16:01] <Waterstoff> mhmm
[16:01] <Waterstoff> I was talking about the fact that english was required in this channel
[16:01] <Waterstoff> I don't speak phonetic
[16:02] <mefisto__> Waterstoff: so you mistook if for french?
[16:02] <khaije1> it seems like evms is dead, but are there any successor/replacements?
[16:03] <flipstar> what actually is evms ?
[16:03] <khaije1> !evms
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <jetsaredim> http://evms.sourceforge.net/, methinks
[16:04] <khaije1> oh, it's a storage management layer
[16:04] <khaije1> thats it
[16:04] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: so you've applied the kaffeine update that removed kaffeine-xine?
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- yeah, but I haven't tried using Kaffeine yet
[16:05] <khaije1> it was designed to make it really simple and consistent to setup any kinda arrangement from, typical setup to super lvm2 features all through one interface
[16:05] <Waterstoff> mefisto__: no, I correctly understood it as not english
[16:05] <flipstar> and it doesnt exist anymore..?
[16:06] <khaije1> it's looking like i'll need some sort of raid on my home machine, i'm just not looking forward to learning a whole new set of commands that i'll rarely use and that punish mistakes harshly
[16:06] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: if you could try it for us now and confirm it still works without kaffeine-xine, that would settle the question
[16:06] <jetsaredim> Dragnslcr: yea - that would be great - if you could
[16:07] <Dragnslcr> Except I'm remoted in to my computer, so it'll be at least 6 hours
[16:07] <flipstar> khaije1: theres a proggy that does all the raid stuff for you :) >>dmraid
[16:07] <jetsaredim> doh
[16:07] <Dragnslcr> How about you try it yourselves?
[16:07] <jetsaredim> i'm in the middle of using kaffeine
[16:07] <Minnozz> Hi, does anybody know a good way to minimize Mozilla Thunderbird to the system tray?
[16:08] <sivaji>  please help me i just directed the output of "history" command to a file called "sample" then i tried "sh sample" .this thing has removed all the files in /home/sivaji dir  now i dont have anyfile in home/sivaji directory is there anyway to restore those files
[16:08] <khaije1> flipstar: ok thanks, i'll check that out, evms seemed so promising. oh well! :-)
[16:09] <mefisto__> Minnozz: see "ksystraycmd --help" that might do what you want
[16:11] <flipstar> sivaji: you might look at :trash/ but i dont know how this script removed the files..btw what did you tried there ? oO
[16:11] <gluk> hi all
[16:11] <gluk> bye all
[16:12] <Minnozz> mefisto__: thanks, but isn't there something like a plugin for thunderbird?
[16:12] <jetsaredim> flipstar sivaji I think trash:/ is only if you removed the files through konqueror
[16:12] <flipstar> Minnozz: it should be possible in thunderbird itself..
[16:12] <flipstar> maybe it just mv'd it
[16:12] <sivaji> flipstar jetsaredim nothing is there  in trash
[16:12] <mefisto__> Minnozz: last I checked, there was a windows-only extension that does that
[16:13] <and80> hi all
[16:13] <jetsaredim> Minnozz: the thunderbird biff extension throws a popup when new mail comes in
[16:13] <sivaji> jetsaredim yes you are correct
[16:13] <and80> I have just installed kubuntu on a macbookpro
[16:13] <and80> but I have a problem setting up the keyboard layout
[16:14] <and80> the system settings gui seems to not work
[16:14] <jetsaredim> sivaji: I hate to tell you but I think you are out of luck
[16:14] <Minnozz> jetsaredim: Yes it already does that, but I want it in the system tray, not the taskbar
[16:15] <sivaji> how to create a icon in /home/sivaji that points to Desktop
[16:15] <sivaji> ?
[16:15] <flipstar> !find recover | Minnozz
[16:15] <ubotu> minnozz: Found: friendly-recovery, recover, recoverjpeg
[16:15] <jetsaredim> Minnozz: sounds like you need to learn how to make tb extensions :)
[16:16] <Minnozz> upz :P
[16:16] <mefisto__> Minnozz: there's also a checkbox in the menu editor to place an app in the system tray
[16:19] <Minnozz> mefisto__: hmm, where can I find that?
[16:19] <flipstar> is there an alternative for vnstat?
[16:20] <mefisto__> Minnozz: right-click on kmenu button, or type "kmenuedit"
[16:21] <Minnozz> mefisto__: ah I see, thanks a lot!
[16:24] <jetsaredim> mefisto__: I don't see that it actually did anything
[16:24] <jetsaredim> I take that back
[16:24] <gluk> hi all\
[16:25] <gluk> I need help
[16:25] <mefisto__> jetsaredim: you mean the kaffeine update?
[16:25] <jpatrick> !ask | gluk
[16:25] <ubotu> gluk: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:25] <jetsaredim> mefisto__: no the tb tray thing
[16:28] <gluk> i configure internet ih ubuntu just now. but only IRC and ping works, no browser or any other program. P.S. I am absolutely newble P.S.2 sorry my english
[16:28] <gluk> *in ubuntu
[16:30] <flipstar> ubuntu? --> #ubuntu
[16:30] <gluk> kubuntu
[16:30] <flipstar> oh
[16:31] <Daisuke_Ido> gluk: konqueror not working?
[16:31] <jetsaredim> gluk: when you say configured - do you mean through the knetworkmanager or through system settings?
[16:31] <Daisuke_Ido> jetsaredim: i'd wager his net's working.  why hasn't a bug report been filed on konqueror for that?  or has it and it's just being ignored
[16:31] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a proxy thing, i believe
[16:31] <_Angelus_> guys
[16:31] <_Angelus_> will i lose my uptime if i suspend to ram?
[16:32] <Daisuke_Ido> _Angelus_: let me find out
[16:32] <_Angelus_> ok
[16:32] <gluk> system settings, not knetworkmanager
[16:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> shoot, can't tell...  i had to reboot this thing yesterday
[16:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't think you do though
[16:33] <gluk> yeah, konqueror and Akredator not working
[16:33] <flipstar> gluk: did you specified a proxy ?
[16:33] <jetsaredim> gluk: what does your network setup look like? static or dynamic? proxies?
[16:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> jetsaredim: completely irrelevant.
[16:33] <jetsaredim> Daisuke_Laptop: ?
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> jetsaredim: it's a problem with konqueror, not his connection
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> he's here, his connection is obviously okay :)
[16:34] <gluk> no, I dont use it // I using an GPRS connection, via mobile phone.
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> proxies yes :)
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i missed that in your response, i apologize
[16:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> gluk: from a terminal, sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:35] <coggz> please help me with my wireless.
[16:35] <gluk> ok, i will try it now
[16:35] <flipstar> gluk: are there servers in /etc/resolv.conf ? try cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:35] <flipstar> !wireless > coggz
[16:36] <coggz> ok, my wireless no longer shows up in knetworkmanager
[16:37] <Piddy> Can anyone help me with kopete please?
[16:37] <coggz> does it crash when u connect to msn?
[16:37] <Piddy> No, it says the pass is wrong.
[16:37] <coggz> oh,
[16:37] <Piddy> Although it's not. Works at hotmail.
[16:37] <gluk> there are no firefox packet here
[16:38] <coggz> can anyone help with wireless
[16:38] <jetsaredim> is it working at all?
[16:38] <flipstar> installing packages might requiere an working connection..
[16:39] <gluk> there are only "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:39] <flipstar> okay..so this is not the problem..
[16:39] <flipstar> did you specified a proxy ?
[16:41] <coggz> jetsaredim: no, not at all. I had it working fine (using ndiswrapper)
[16:41] <colonel> hi everyone !
[16:42] <colonel> may I ask a question ? I:d like to install VLC on Kubunctu...
[16:42] <colonel> adept doesn:t seem to find the package..
[16:42] <colonel> ??
[16:42] <jetsaredim> coggz: what did you change?
[16:43] <Lynoure> colonel: it should be in the  universe  repository
[16:43] <Lynoure> colonel: do you have that repository in use?
[16:43] <gluk> i dont use proxy
[16:43] <coggz> nothing, one day i hibernate it, then i open up and bang! it's gone. Does not show up as a device
[16:43] <colonel> what is this ? i don:t know
[16:44] <colonel> is it something to add to a list ?
[16:44] <flipstar> colonel you have to use the universe source for that
[16:45] <gluk> i can ping www.google.com, but i couldn't visit it with browser..
[16:45] <flipstar> you probably need to add it
[16:45] <colonel> ok, thank you guys, i will try this
[16:45] <flipstar> gluk: would be great if you could try another browser ..
[16:46] <Lynoure> colonel:  sudo kate /etc/sources.list  and uncomment the lines with universe  :)
[16:46] <Lynoure> colonel: oops,   kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[16:46] <colonel> thanks  times !! ;-0
[16:47] <Sbucatone_> Lynoure: /etc/apt/sor
[16:47] <gluk> will Dolphin works with internet?
[16:47] <Sbucatone_> i think no
[16:48] <jetsaredim> try lynx
[16:48] <gluk> i hewen't it
[16:48] <gluk> *have not
[16:49] <Sbucatone_> gluk: konqueror does't work ?
[16:49] <gluk> no
[16:49] <Sbucatone_> gluk: try to disable cache
[16:49] <gluk> it doesn't
[16:50] <Sbucatone_> gluk: :) i have konqueror for internet browser
[16:50] <coggz> any thoughts on my wireless?
[16:50] <Sbucatone_> coggz: what's your problem ?
[16:51] <coggz> my wireless dos not show up, it was working fine until i hibernated
[16:51] <gluk> i'll go out for a short time, sorry
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> coggz: iwconfig in a terminal
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> !paste
[16:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> coggz: use paste bin to paste output
[16:52] <Lynoure> Sbucatone_: yes, thanks for the correction
[16:53] <Sbucatone_> :)
[16:54] <coggz> Sbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57579/
[16:54] <coggz> i do have eth0, that is what im using now, eth1 does not show up...
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> coggz: ifconfigg eth1 down
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> coggz: ifconfig eth1 down
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> coggz: then ifconfig eth1 up
[16:56] <Sbucatone_> coggz: plz paste even iwlist eth1 scan
[16:56] <coggz> had to be sudo'ed
[16:57] <Sbucatone_> coggz: yes
[16:57] <z3r0-x> how are you?
[16:57] <coggz> Sbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57581/
[16:57] <coggz> they all showup
[16:58] <z3r0-x> me?
[16:58] <z3r0-x> are you hot?
[16:58] <Sbucatone_> coggz: ok your card works well
[16:58] <z3r0-x> i have big titts do you want to fuck me?
[16:59] <coggz> !wtf
[16:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:59] <Sbucatone_> coggz: and so you will do  :  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:59] <Sbucatone_> should do :)
[17:00] <z3r0-x> sorry chicking if worked..lol
[17:00] <z3r0-x> how are you?
[17:00] <tekstacy> Is there a way to amplify the sound? The sound on this movie is too soft even at full
[17:01] <flipstar> vlc can..
[17:02] <Sbucatone_> tekstacy:if you can't find a nice solution...this for avi movie ... ffmpeg -i INPUT -vcodec copy -acodec mp3 -ab 128k -vol 500 -y OUTPUT
[17:02] <Sbucatone_> tekstacy: not sure..
[17:02] <coggz> Sbucatone_: still not working
[17:03] <tekstacy> I like that, it fixes the movie not the machine
[17:03] <jetsaredim> tekstacy: kmix
[17:03] <tekstacy> I could try vlc, but I like mplayer
[17:03] <jetsaredim> open the full mixer
[17:03] <coggz> Sbucatone_: any other suggestions?
[17:03] <tekstacy> everything is at full
[17:04] <jetsaredim> tekstacy: volume control on your speakers?
[17:04] <Sbucatone_> coggz: your card can detect wifi networks ...so i think you should  sudo ifconfig eth1 down ; sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:04] <tekstacy> yup. laptop.
[17:04] <Arwen> tekstacy, volume knob....
[17:04] <tekstacy> I wonder if another mixer would let me do it....
[17:05] <Arwen> you could use -af volnorm on MPlayer
[17:05] <coggz> Sbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57582/
[17:05] <jetsaredim> tekstacy: there is alsamixer from the command-line
[17:05] <Arwen> but I think fixing your sound system would be a better idea
[17:06] <tekstacy> Well, it's more the file. Sound works ok, but sometimes I get a song or movie with the sound recorded to soft. I was looking for a temporary fix
[17:06] <Sbucatone_> coggz: mm sometime my card does that...but i have a usb card so i remove and after i re-plug in it and it works fine, ...you should check your dns too
[17:06] <tekstacy> didn't know about -af volnorm, thanks
[17:07] <anto> kubuntu france
[17:07] <mefisto__> tekstacy: kaffeine has a audio normalisation filter, Player menu, effect plugins...
[17:07] <jpatrick> !fr | anto
[17:07] <ubotu> anto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:08] <coggz> Sbucatone_: how? still no luck after disabling and restarting
[17:08] <tekstacy> mefisto, thanks
[17:08] <gluk> i'm here
[17:08] <Sbucatone_> coggz: well kdesudo kate /etc/resolv.conf
[17:09] <TheFarmer> Is it possible to install Kubuntu on a external , so you can 'leave' your NTFS/Windows alone, without resizing, etc ?
[17:09] <tekstacy> TheFarmer, yes
[17:09] <coggz> Sbucatone_: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> coggz: put this
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:09] <flipstar> Sbucatone_: you cant edit nameservers there ..
[17:09] <tekstacy> Assuming your box allows you to boot from it
[17:10] <flipstar> it will be overwritten
[17:10] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: i know
[17:10] <TheFarmer> tekstacy: And it'll do whatever it needs to do (lilo? grub or whatever?) to the main drive to just tell it there is another OS on the external ?
[17:11] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: but in my card if i left that stuff it doesn't work ... i don't know why but when i change them after it works
[17:11] <tekstacy> TheFarmer, you would install it on a flash drive as the only os.
[17:12] <flipstar> hm..the right file for dns namerserver changes is /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ..
[17:12] <coggz> ill fix it later. bye thanks for your help
[17:12] <tekstacy> But, yes, it could do all that stuff to your windows drive
[17:12] <ScorpKing> nameservers can be set in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[17:12] <flipstar> exactly
[17:12] <tekstacy> Curious, what do you farm?
[17:13] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: well if i do that then..it works ...so why? i don't know
[17:13] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: i mean on resolv.conf
[17:13] <[T]an1> I am working on getting my sound working correctly. I open kmix and it shows nothing selectable in the current mixer window. when I select either oss or alsa in my mplayer preferences the movies give an error that no sound is working.
[17:13] <[T]an1> could use some assistance.
[17:13] <flipstar> !install > TheFarmer
[17:14] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: do you use dialup? or something else?
[17:14] <flipstar> Sbucatone_: doesnt mean it have to work for all :)
[17:14] <[T]an1> from lspci: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: well i have tried ..
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> ScorpKing: i have wifi connection
[17:15] <limbeaux> i installed an app using apt-get.  when i run it, it says "you must be root to run"  how do i make it ask for sudo password?
[17:15] <anto__> Hey homies
[17:15] <flipstar> !intelhda > [T]an1
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> ScorpKing: dsl 4M
[17:15] <Admiral_Chicago> limbeaux: which app is it?
[17:16] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: oh ok. i'm getting confused here. you have dns problems?
[17:16] <limbeaux> gproftpd
[17:16] <limbeaux> it will run from a terminal: sudo /usr/sbin/gproftpd
[17:17] <Sbucatone_> ScorpKing: no no i have not :) just i was asking why if i leave resolv.conf as default my wifi doesì't work instead if i replace open dns on resolv.conf it works
[17:17] <ScorpKing> limbeaux: from the d at the end i think it should be a deamon
[17:17] <limbeaux> it is a gui for proftpd
[17:17] <gluk_> yahooo! it works! =)
[17:17] <flipstar> limbeaux: then use kdesu instead of sudo :>
[17:18] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: ah i see. the only way i can think of is to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf like flipstar said
[17:18] <limbeaux> is there a way to add that to the shortcut?
[17:19] <flipstar> right click->edit ¦->
[17:19] <limbeaux> yeah, i looked at that
[17:21] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: add the dns servers in this line "#prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;" and uncomment it.
[17:21] <ScorpKing> i have to go. nite guys
[17:22] <limbeaux> thanks flipstar
[17:22] <limbeaux> that worked
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome...  unreal tournament is within reach once more :D
[17:24] <BanTam> hey Arwen
[17:24] <Arwen> yo
[17:25] <BanTam> apparently mergedfb has been phased out of gutsy
[17:25] <Arwen> oh, that would explain it
[17:25] <BanTam> they now use RandR
[17:25] <Arwen> musta been replaced with xrandr
[17:25] <BanTam> yup
[17:25] <BanTam> lol
[17:25] <Arwen> yeah, I don't know enough about that to help you :-(
[17:25] <BanTam> thats ok, i just wanted to let you know
[17:25] <BanTam> im reading up on it
[17:26] <BanTam> so we were shoveling sh*t against the tide yesterday
[17:26] <BanTam> :(
[17:26] <Arwen> wasted our time, eh? :-)
[17:26] <BanTam> pretty much
[17:26] <BanTam> sorry about that
[17:26] <Arwen> more importantly, TIME FOR SOME QUAKE
[17:26] <BanTam> have fun
[17:26] <Arwen> actually, I wonder if it'll make my system crash :-P
[17:27] <BanTam> haha
[17:32] <tekstacy> ugh, back to work. bye
[17:32] <BanTam> !envy
[17:32] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:33] <yao_ziyuan> how do i apply a proxy to Adept Manager?
[17:33] <yao_ziyuan> i'm downloading some packages from a repository at wxwidgets.org and applying tor would make it faster
[17:35] <anto> kubuntu france
[17:35] <anto> france
[17:36] <frank232> !fr
[17:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:36] <flipstar> yao_ziyuan: i think you have to specify it in the sources.list or so
[17:40] <yao_ziyuan> synaptic can set proxy
[17:41] <flipstar> okay..
[17:41] <flipstar> whatever
[17:41] <maniac> Hello everyone. I have some strange problems - a whole lot of probrams crashes with sigsegv on start or within libpthread.
[17:42] <maniac> also superkaramba causes Xorg do die when idle.
[17:42] <maniac> it makes me think that something with threading is broken inside the kernel
[17:42] <genii> yao_ziyuan: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/how-to-set-up-proxy-in-apt-gets-apt.conf-265793/
[17:42] <genii> Bah he left now
[17:43] <maniac> also - nvidia proprietary driver cases everything to crash with sigsegv after some time. So I use nv now.
[17:43] <maniac> Is this only for me?
[17:43] <maniac> where should I report this bug? to linux kernel, or kde, or ubuntu?
[17:43] <jaymacdonald> It's something wrong with your side
[17:44] <jaymacdonald> It doesn't do that for anyone else, maniac.
[17:44] <flipstar> maniac: gutsy or hardy ?
[17:44] <maniac> I have done memtest86 and cpuburn. so hardware is ok.
[17:44] <maniac> flipstar: gusty 7.1
[17:44] <jaymacdonald> *7.10
[17:44] <maniac> y
[17:45] <flipstar> since when you have this ?
[17:45] <jaymacdonald> The release number corrsponds to the release date.
[17:45] <maniac> from very start.
[17:45] <maniac> it started with linuxdcpp crashing at start. and then, after some updates. it got worse
[17:46] <maniac> yesterday even kteatime crashed at start
[17:47] <flipstar> so with nv as driver you have no problems ?
[17:47] <maniac> much much less.
[17:47] <Arwen> f***
[17:47] <Arwen> fglrx is even slower than the open driver
[17:47] <Arwen> Kubuntu is just plain unusable...
[17:48] <maniac> Arwen: same here with nvidia
[17:48] <flipstar> hm i dont know what couses this .. but maybe you want to install the drivers from nvidias website ..
[17:48] <maniac> tried with envy. It is even worse than restricted.
[17:48] <Arwen> ack, my login screen is fubar, vsync is broken, opengl doesn't work, and xvideo looks crappy
[17:48] <Arwen> how much more broken can it get?
[17:49] <pat_> Hi all, I just installed gutsy on my laptop. It works great except my fonts are horrible. I've changed them in 'appearance' but no matter what ones I use, they are not clear like my desktop kubuntu. Any suggestions?
[17:49] <flipstar> maniac: maybe you want try these ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[17:50] <maniac> flipstar: It feels like dice roll...
[17:51] <maniac> flipstar: I have stdied manuals on ubuntu site, about this driver. And I still have nvidia-kernel-common installed.
[17:51] <Arwen> pat_, adjust the anti-aliasing option
[17:51] <flipstar> envy changes a lot of settings
[17:51] <mefisto__> pat_: antialiasing. in system settings > appearance > fonts, then click the "configure" button
[17:51] <maniac> flipstar: when I tell aptitude to unistall it, it says that it will also remove kubuntu desktop and so on.
[17:51] <pat_> Arwen: where do I do that?
[17:51] <flipstar> it blacklist some modules and so on
[17:52] <pat_> Arwen: k, I'll give that a go, thx, brb
[17:52] <flipstar> kubuntu-desktop is just a metafile
[17:52] <maniac> flipstar: I have checked - tothing is blacklisted. But should be "nv nvidia"
[17:52] <flipstar> i just wanted to say:i dont like envy
[17:52] <maniac> flipstar: I know that this is a metapackage. I mean aptitude offers me removing half of the system. Dependecies seem proken
[17:53] <maniac> flipstar: I dont like it now also.
[17:53] <maniac> but, restricted moudles crash also.
[17:53] <maniac> it seems to be broken xorg and/or linux kernel itself.
[17:53] <maniac> particularly "fork" syscall
[17:53] <flipstar> or configuration error ..
[17:54] <maniac> flipstar: I have not reconfigured it by hand. only the network.
[17:54] <Arwen> anyone know where I can get more support regarding fglrx?
[17:54] <flipstar> seems wired that you cant remove the nvidia-kernel-common..
[17:54] <maniac> 100%
[17:55] <flipstar> Arwen: google :)
[17:55] <Arwen> argh...............
[17:55] <maniac> I wanted to use ubuntu because it claims working "out of the box". I used plain "debian testing" for a year, and I never had any issues after I configured it.
[17:56] <maniac> Arwen: there are manuals for nvidia on ubuntuforums and ubuntu. google there for ATI.
[17:56] <Arwen> maniac, I don't need a manual, I need advice on repairs...
[17:56] <Arwen> though then again, I'm not sure how much can be done to fix it...
[17:57] <maniac> Arwen: repairs... hm. Never done anything similar.
[17:57] <Arwen> it doesn't work (tm) here
[17:59] <maniac> flipstar: http://pastebin.com/d51273c0b this is wahat aptitude says.
[18:00] <hagaff> servus
[18:00] <hagaff> frage was is des hier bin neu im kubuntu
[18:00] <hagaff> über was wird hier geredet
[18:00] <mefisto__> Arwen: maybe try googling your vidcard + gutsy. It worked for getting my ati card working well
[18:01] <genii> !de | hagaff
[18:01] <Arwen> um... it's running... just not working
[18:01] <ubotu> hagaff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:01] <Arwen> so yeah..
[18:01] <flipstar> maniac: hm it claims restricted modules are broken oO
[18:01] <maniac> flipstar: they are :) at least they dont work.
[18:01] <hagaff> wie funktioniert des ubotu
[18:02] <flipstar> what happens if you try to remove them ?
[18:02] <hagaff> nur klicken oder
[18:02] <flipstar> hagaff: click on >< #kubuntu-de <<
[18:02] <hagaff> und dann los fragen
[18:02] <hagaff> ah ok
[18:03] <hagaff> danke
[18:03] <maniac> flipstar:  the same thing. It will remove metapackages.
[18:03] <flipstar> hm this is not good at all but you could reinstall them later ..
[18:03] <flipstar> or wait for things to get better ..
[18:05] <maniac> I will wait for 8.04. If it is same buggy. I will move back to debian or even gentoo
[18:05] <maniac> and fix bugs myself :(
[18:05] <flipstar> just try to update in a few
[18:05] <maniac> I am running latest set of packages.
[18:06] <flipstar> currently :)
[18:06] <maniac> I can reinstall this resticted stuff.
[18:06] <root__> maricos y putas todos
[18:06] <maniac> the latest of "ubuntu"
[18:06] <maniac> they are quite old.
[18:07] <maniac> for what reason have nut ups driver be so old with ubuntu?
[18:07] <flipstar> if i were you i would install nvidia drivers by myself ¦=]
[18:07]  * maniac dont like ubuntu update filosophy
[18:07] <maniac> flipstar: I dont want to do it. hey! this is ubuntu or not?
[18:08] <maniac> flipstar: If i install them myself, what is the point of ubuntu? I'd better use debian/
[18:08] <flipstar> linux is linux
[18:09] <maniac> yes. it is. just got more candy look
[18:10] <maniac> I have tried to use compiz with KDE. It was really flickering on startup.
[18:10] <flipstar> you also have kubuntu&ubuntu-desktop installed that might trouble some
[18:10] <maniac> thigs got broken before I installed "ubuntu-desktop"
[18:11] <maniac> I need both. I use KDE and wife uses Gnome.
[18:12] <flipstar> you could'nt use compiz ?
[18:13] <aris> ?
[18:13] <aris> hello
[18:13] <flipstar> hi
[18:13] <aris> i do have a question on kubuntu
[18:13] <flipstar> go on ..
[18:13] <aris> how i may run a deb file
[18:13] <flipstar> open it with gdebi
[18:13] <aris> i have downloaded skype for Linux
[18:14] <aris> where is gdebi?
[18:14] <flipstar> you might install gdebi before..
[18:14] <flipstar> search for it in adept
[18:14] <frank232> aris: can't you just click on it?
[18:14] <aris> yes i clikc on skype.deb
[18:14] <aris> but cannot run
[18:15] <flipstar> !info gdebi
[18:15] <ubotu> gdebi (source: gdebi): Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 220 kB
[18:15] <aris> can you tell me where to look for gdebi?
[18:15] <flipstar> search for it in adept or type sudo apt-get install gdebi
[18:15] <maniac> flipstar: I could use compiz. But it's initialization did not look good. And I dont see any use of it. And it caused problems for 3d games
[18:16] <frank232> aris: is there an error message?
[18:16] <frank232> aris: use adept to install gdebi-kde if it's not installed
[18:16] <maniac> aris: you can also run "dpgk -i skype-file-name.deb" from console. But gdebi-kde should be accessible with right click.
[18:17] <root__> dvgfghuil
[18:17] <flipstar> maniac: yes..if i dont start it at login it might flicker for a second..and framerate i little bit lower in 3d games, i agree
[18:17] <aris> the error message is that it opens with another program  ARK
[18:17] <flipstar> and btw i find it very usefull
[18:17] <psilocyde> could someone please help with my adept  package manager problem?
[18:17] <flipstar> aris: you need to install an program that can deal with that..like gdebi
[18:17] <psilocyde> adept lcoks up during the aply changes fase
[18:17] <psilocyde> *locks
[18:18] <aris> tell me what is adept?
[18:18] <frank232> aris: right-Click -> Open with -> Gdebi Package installer is not there?
[18:18] <flipstar> !adept | aris
[18:18] <ubotu> aris: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[18:18] <psilocyde> the adept package manager
[18:18] <maniac> adept - gui front end to apt
[18:18] <psilocyde> yes sorry
[18:18] <frank232> aris: K->System->Adept
[18:18] <genii> aris: Or Kbutton.. Add/Remove Programs
[18:18] <psilocyde> yes
[18:19] <psilocyde> both
[18:19] <maniac> aris: try with right click. You should be able to select gdebi instead of ark.
[18:19] <flipstar> gdebi is installed by default ?
[18:19] <maniac> was for me
[18:19] <aris> i opened adept...now what?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> what's the latest on browser ID using Konq on Gmail ?
[18:20] <maniac> BluesKaj:  mozilla 1.7.3 , but google reader still broken.
[18:20] <psilocyde> i have an update notification saying that i have 13 updated packages available
[18:20] <flipstar> aris: type gdebi
[18:20] <flipstar> or copy and paste it
[18:20] <psilocyde> i click on the systray icon and i get an error
[18:21] <flipstar> !error
[18:21] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[18:21] <maniac> psilocyde: whar error?
[18:21] <maniac> *what
[18:21] <psilocyde> - No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command. -
[18:21] <aris> type gdebi at what location?
[18:21] <flipstar> aris: at the search field from adept
[18:21] <psilocyde> then i run anyway and i get a crash
[18:22] <psilocyde> i could pastbin
[18:22] <flipstar> aris: you can install there any software you might need if it is availible
[18:22] <aris> cannot find gdebi!
[18:22] <maniac> psilocyde: K -> System -> Adept Update Manager
[18:22] <frank232> aris: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[18:22] <genii> aris: gdebi-kde
[18:23] <flipstar> he probably uses the sources from installation..
[18:23] <Tonren> How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being overwritten every time I restart?
[18:23] <aris> i do have 3.5.2
[18:23] <psilocyde> maniac: sorry i dont understand your instuction. Would you like me to past that in to a terminal?
[18:24] <frank232> aris: is that kubuntu 6.06 , 6.10?
[18:24] <maniac> psilocyde: past "sudo adept_updater"
[18:24] <psilocyde> ty will do
[18:25] <frank232> aris: anyways you probably need to use a terminal and  run    sudo dpkg -i skypepackagename.deb
[18:25] <maniac> aris: do it from konsole. just with "dpkg -i skypepackage.deb"
[18:26] <aris> ii try with terminal
[18:26] <genii> Tonren: Do you have "Restore Previous Session" checked in Kbutton..System Settings..Advanced... Session Management ?
[18:26]  * maniac went out
[18:26] <psilocyde> maniac: i get "Another process is using the packaging system database"
[18:27] <flipstar> and..is it ?
[18:27] <jinzougen> Hey, I like using aterm, but it doesn't render certain characters correctly, does anyone know how to fix it?
[18:27] <psilocyde> aww did i lose maniac?
[18:27] <jinzougen> Usually punctuation characters like `` and --
[18:27] <Tonren> genii: No, I think I restart with a blank session.
[18:27] <flipstar> psilocyde: if there is no other installer open try..
[18:27] <flipstar> !adeptfix
[18:27] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:27] <Tonren> genii: Restarting from previous session is too weird... I always get all sorts of programs opening up.
[18:29] <Tonren> genii: I'm really perplexed, because I can't figure out where this file keeps being overwritten from, or why.
[18:29] <psilocyde> i get
[18:29] <psilocyde> Kill process 5556 ? (y/N) y
[18:29] <psilocyde> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[18:29] <genii> Tonren: Well, you could always just make gtkrc readonly then and change owner to root or so
[18:30] <aris> i typed sudo -dpgk
[18:30] <Tonren> genii: Ooh.  That's a good idea.
[18:30] <flipstar> psilocyde: are you sure there is no process using it? try ctrl+esc and search for adept or synaptic ..
[18:30] <psilocyde> k ty
[18:31] <aris> i right clicked on skype and install the package ..
[18:31] <aris> but message is that missing package..
[18:31] <frank232> aris: did it work?\
[18:32] <flipstar> !skype | aris
[18:32] <ubotu> aris: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[18:33] <aris> ok...i try to read instructions..
[18:33] <aris> now how to run a bin file?
[18:34] <psilocyde> Flipstar: no instances of adept or synaptic.
[18:35] <flipstar> dpkg maybe ?
[18:35] <flipstar> hm then try again ..
[18:35] <psilocyde> try what then?
[18:35] <prince_jammys> !aptfix
[18:35] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:37] <psilocyde> ok now i get "Bus error (core dumped)"
[18:37] <flipstar> ¦ /
[18:38] <psilocyde> :(
[18:38] <prince_jammys> mmm
[18:38] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: you get that error after trying to use adept?
[18:39] <psilocyde> After "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" in terminal
[18:39] <aris> hello?
[18:40] <aris> bin file?
[18:40] <trappist> aris: usually sudo sh filename.bin
[18:41] <trappist> that makes some not-necessarily-valid assumptions about the actual file type
[18:41] <Waterstoff> err
[18:41] <Waterstoff> that makes a lot of really bad assumptions
[18:41] <Waterstoff> in fact, thats some pretty bad advice
[18:42] <trappist> now that you mention it... you're right
[18:42] <Waterstoff> 1) Don't use sudo unless you have good reason
[18:42] <flipstar> psilocyde: libncursesw5 is installed..?
[18:42] <Waterstoff> 2) Make the file executable and run the file, its a bin for a reason
[18:42] <Waterstoff> 3) sh files _usually_ end with .sh, not with .bin
[18:42] <psilocyde> flipstar: how do i verify that?
[18:43] <aris> trappist..i did it with the command but cannot execute binary file
[18:43] <flipstar> psilocyde: apt-cache show libncursesw5
[18:43] <flipstar> guess you cant use apt-get now..?
[18:43] <psilocyde> ty
[18:43] <trappist> aris: it's probably not even an executable file, so you don't *run* it.  did it come with a .cue file?
[18:44] <flipstar> err psilocyde sorry that was the wrong one..
[18:44] <trappist> aris: actually, let's start with this - do file <filename>
[18:44] <aris> trappist...it is RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[18:44] <Waterstoff> it is an executable file
[18:44] <flipstar> psilocyde: apt-cache policy libncursesw5
[18:45] <trappist> aris: are you maybe running a 64bit ubuntu?
[18:45] <Waterstoff> aris: chmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin; ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[18:45] <aris> trappist...-do no found
[18:45] <psilocyde> yes its there
[18:45] <trappist> aris: omit the "do" part.
[18:45] <flipstar> ..guess you cant use apt-get now to reinstall..?
[18:45] <psilocyde> i could try
[18:45] <flipstar> try apt-get --reinstall install libncursesw5
[18:46] <aris> i omit do part
[18:47] <aris> i need other thing
[18:48] <trappist> probably
[18:48] <psilocyde> http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2
[18:48] <aris> fuck it...bin
[18:49] <trappist> !language
[18:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:49] <psilocyde> potty
[18:49] <aris> ubotu ...whereabouts?
[18:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whereabouts? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:50] <aris> yr location?
[18:50] <trappist> aris: ubotu is a bot.
[18:50] <Pici> !bot
[18:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:51] <aris> oohps
[18:51] <aris> trappist..tnxs for your advice..
[18:51] <psilocyde> flipstar: did you follow the pastebin link?
[18:51] <flipstar> yep..
[18:51] <psilocyde> oh ok
[18:52] <hagaff> wie komm ich zu dem kubunte.de
[18:52] <prince_jammys> !de | hagaff
[18:52] <ubotu> hagaff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:52] <Waterstoff> It would appear that thats what his message was talking about
[18:57] <aris> >
[18:57] <aris> dsdfs
[18:57] <aris> fdsf
[18:58] <aris> hi
[18:58] <aris> fgfd
[18:58] <Waterstoff> don't spam.
[18:58] <aris> hello waterstoff
[18:59] <Arwen> !compiz
[18:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:59] <Piddy> Can someone help me with Kopete?
[18:59] <aris> what kopete?
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> whats wrog with it?
[19:00] <flipstar> aris: its an instant messaging program
[19:03] <aris> yes...flipstar..
[19:04] <aris> i extracted a gz file...
[19:04] <aris> now how to install?
[19:04] <dhq> i have a nvidia gfx card in my laptop   8600m gt
[19:04] <dhq> i need drivers
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[19:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:07] <flipstar> aris: what is in this package ?
[19:07] <aris> Firefox
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> aris» use "sudo apt-get install firefox" to install firefox
[19:08] <Dragnslcr> Firefox is in the repositories already
[19:08] <psilocyde> should i just reinstall?
[19:08] <storbeck> aris: cd folder -> ./configure -> make -> sudo make install
[19:08] <psilocyde> ive been working on this problem for 2 daqys
[19:09] <flipstar> psilocyde: aptitude ?
[19:09] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» for what?
[19:09] <psilocyde> no kubuntu
[19:09] <flipstar> oh..
[19:09] <psilocyde> ive been working on this problem for to days
[19:09] <storbeck> psilocyde: What's the problem?
[19:09] <flipstar> you could try to fix it from livecd ..
[19:09] <psilocyde> apt is broken or something
[19:09] <flipstar> here..>http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2
[19:09] <aris> storbeck...i run it but message 'firefxo has no installation candidate
[19:09] <psilocyde> it wont comit any changes
[19:09] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» whats wrong with it?
[19:09] <psilocyde> locks
[19:10] <psilocyde> maybe flipstar could word it better than i
[19:10] <storbeck> aris, will you pastebin it?
[19:10] <psilocyde> it will download updates and software but it will not comit changes
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> aris» why are you installing rom a tarball? you can easily get it with apt.
[19:11] <Arwen> huh, compiz works
[19:11] <psilocyde> it wont install anything
[19:11] <aris> i run it from Terminal...
[19:12] <flipstar> nosrednaekim: & storbeck: http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2 & http://pastebin.com/d51273c0b
[19:12] <psilocyde> everything you good people have told me to do to fix it dont resolve the problem
[19:12] <storbeck> !pastebin | aris
[19:12] <ubotu> aris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:12] <aris> storbeck....there is a file ŕun-mozilla.sh' inside the firefox directory
[19:13] <storbeck> nosrednaekim: Does it do that with every package?
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» does aptitude work?
[19:13] <psilocyde> no
[19:14] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» what is its error message?
[19:14] <flipstar> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[19:14] <psilocyde> yes
[19:14] <storbeck> nosrednaekim: Does dpkg work?
[19:15] <storbeck> err psilocyde *
[19:15] <psilocyde> no
[19:15] <storbeck> O_O?
[19:15] <psilocyde> it downloads but will not install
[19:15] <storbeck> dpkg, not apt-get
[19:15] <flipstar> psilocyde: maybe this will help..using the livecd..http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523
[19:15] <psilocyde> ok
[19:15] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» what does "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" say?
[19:15] <storbeck> psilocyde: Re-install apt
[19:16] <storbeck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77658
[19:16] <richard> Does anyone know how to connect using remote desktop connection to a windows machine?
[19:16] <aris> storbeck..how to run the run mozilla.sh
[19:16] <psilocyde> ok
[19:16] <storbeck> aris: sh mozilla.sh
[19:16] <psilocyde> looking at those pages ty
[19:16] <storbeck> np
[19:17] <flipstar> psilocyde: wait a sec..what does dpkg say ?
[19:17] <psilocyde> command?
[19:17] <aris> storbekc...i tried sh mozilla.sh...no file or such directory
[19:18] <storbeck> aris, Then the file isn't called mozilla.sh XD
[19:18] <flipstar> see above..nosreds text
[19:18] <psilocyde> ok sorry
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» there should be some packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:19] <flipstar> aris: youre probably in the wrong directory but i REALLY would recommend you to install firefox via adept_manager
[19:19] <aris> storbeck ...why cannot find any installation file inside the Firefox directory?
[19:19] <storbeck> aris, type this: sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:19] <storbeck> That will install firefox for you. :]
[19:20] <psilocyde> "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" gives me "Bus error (core dumped)"
[19:21] <aris> storbeck..i opened adept manager and typed firefox in 'search' ...it returned
[19:21] <mefisto__> I think aris might not have sources.list set up right
[19:21] <aris> mozilla-firefox;ocale-en-gb  Status installed....is it done?
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» point it to a valid deb in /var/cache/apt/archives like so "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/somevalid.deb"
[19:22] <flipstar> aris: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[19:22] <storbeck> psilocyde: That means you have broken packages somewhere.
[19:22] <storbeck> During an install, it was interrupted.
[19:23] <storbeck> And I think it's beyond simple repair.
[19:23] <storbeck> Your best bet would be to re-install.
[19:23] <psilocyde> kubuntu?
[19:23] <storbeck> Yes
[19:24] <psilocyde> ah ok
[19:24] <storbeck> If you can't run dpkg, aptitude, or apt-get
[19:24] <psilocyde> sigh
[19:24] <aris> how to locate version of Kubuntu I use?
[19:24] <flipstar> psilocyde: please first follow nosreds instructions ..
[19:24] <storbeck> You're pretty foobar'd
[19:24] <flipstar> storbeck: you still could use the live cd to reinstall that
[19:25] <storbeck> aris: lsb_release -a
[19:25] <mefisto__> what does the lsb stand for?
[19:25] <storbeck> flipstar: It's possible. I don't know if it would work though.
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> Linux standard base
[19:26] <aris> i have Ubuntu Release 6.06...tnxs
[19:27] <flipstar> you could also use cat /etc/*release ..
[19:29] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdmtheme_1.2.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[19:29] <psilocyde> Bus error (core dumped)
[19:29] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$
[19:29] <beautifulsnow> Wondering if someone can help me with Wine, (yes I know there's a channel but its dormant :( )  My exe's don't run, and when I try to set up drives through config, I get "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of ...."  so when I come back and try again there are no drives... :-/
[19:29] <trappist> psilocyde: sounds like a hardware issue
[19:29] <psilocyde> really
[19:30] <flipstar> no
[19:30] <psilocyde> how so
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» there should be a core dump in the current directory... pastebin the contents
[19:30] <flipstar> oh, thats what core dumped mean :)
[19:31] <psilocyde> sorry?
[19:31] <flipstar> there should be a text file..called coredump or similar..
[19:31] <flipstar> upload the content to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[19:31] <trappist> core.* where * is the pid of the process that core dumped
[19:32] <limbeaux> Is there a service in kubuntu that will do desktop sharing.  eg vnc  that will run as a service?
[19:33] <nosrednaekim> try krdc
[19:33] <limbeaux> one service i found krdb whatever it was required that a dialog box be clicked to accept the incoming connection
[19:33] <flipstar> ehm krdc is the client.. limbeaux try krfb..
[19:34] <psilocyde> "/var/cache/apt/archives/" only has one text file. Its empty and labled "lock"
[19:34] <flipstar> psilocyde: try search in your current dir
[19:35] <psilocyde> how?
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» lol...ok, download a deb...
[19:35] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: li
[19:35] <prince_jammys> ls
[19:35] <psilocyde> haha newbies are funny with there ignorances! : D
[19:36] <bioss> hello
[19:36] <nosrednaekim> hey bioss
[19:37] <bioss> anyone really good on excel 2007
[19:37] <bioss> and acces
[19:37] <flipstar> psilocyde: if you have no .deb on you pc you might try this one.. http://www.getdeb.net/download/2244/0
[19:37] <bioss> shout out to teekteen
[19:39] <trappist> bioss: wrong channel dude
[19:39] <Pici> bioss: Try ##windows
[19:39] <bioss> importing data from excel to acces with if condition , the problem lies in getting the data to acces erasing the blank spaces or blank colums (using wine of course)
[19:39] <psilocyde> i have many .debs.  When i do "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/Any one of those .deb files I get the error "Bus error (core dumped)"
[19:40] <psilocyde> there is no dump file in said directory
[19:40] <prince_jammys> is there a dump file in the directory you are currently in?
[19:41] <psilocyde> not that i can see
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» see if there is one in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:41] <flipstar> ls -al |grep dump
[19:41] <prince_jammys> ls -al *dump
[19:42] <ubuntu_> salut !
[19:42] <prince_jammys> salut
[19:42] <jpatrick> !fr | ubuntu_
[19:42] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:42] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ ls -al *dump
[19:42] <psilocyde> ls: *dump: No such file or directory
[19:42] <jimmy51_office> hello, does anyone know a rough release of the next major kubuntu version?
[19:43] <coggz> hi, need some help with a acer laptop with ati graphics
[19:43] <PcMaX> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 2629 MHz (5264 bogomips), , RAM: 807/1005MB, 116 proc's, 16.21min up
[19:43] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: then there aint no file that ends in dump
[19:43] <coggz> the boot screen does not show and it takes ages to load
[19:43] <psilocyde> ok
[19:44] <psilocyde> ok then ill reinstall the OS
[19:45] <psilocyde> thanks for the help folks
[19:45] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: try google before you do that
[19:45] <psilocyde> google what?
[19:45] <psilocyde> you dont think i have?
[19:45] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: google  :  ubuntu install .deb "core dumped"
[19:45] <flipstar> this here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523 might help
[19:45] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: i have no way of knowing what you have already done
[19:45] <flipstar> takes less then reinstall i guess
[19:45] <psilocyde> i sorry i know
[19:46] <psilocyde> im frustrated
[19:46] <mefisto__> computer problems feed on frustration
[19:47] <coggz> any ideas on the acer?
[19:47] <MasseR> After the latest update (kubuntu) kaffeine stopped working with dvb
[19:48] <MasseR> now it freezes every time I try to select digital tv
[19:49] <mefisto__> MasseR: is this the update that removes kaffeine-xine ?
[19:49] <MasseR> Yep
[19:49] <coggz> ok, fine, need help with my wireless. It does not connect through knetwork manager or kwifi, but can detect networks when done in console
[19:50] <psilocyde> ok thanks again folks will try the repair from live cd
[19:50] <psilocyde> ill be back
[19:50] <psilocyde> count on it
[19:50] <psilocyde> take care
[19:50] <flipstar> good luck
[19:50] <psilocyde> thanks
[19:50] <MasseR> mefisto__: I tried to install it back but it complained about breaking
[19:52] <mefisto__> MasseR: I suppose you would have to revert to 0.8.5 to have kaffeine-xine installed
[19:54] <libben> does wubi works properly? Just wanna check it out from windows and try some settings.
[19:54] <coggz> why does nobody answer me!
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> libben» I think it does
[19:55] <libben> can i choose on wich hd it stores the file to?
[19:55] <libben> so it doesnt clams up my c: ?
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> libben» never having used it...i'm not sure
[19:56] <MasseR> mefisto__: How do I do that
[19:56] <flipstar> is there an alternative for cron ?
[19:56] <coggz> nosrednaekim: u any good with wireless
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> coggz» when i'm not busy, yes ;-)
[19:57] <coggz> nosrednaekim: ok then,
[19:57] <libben> is wubi shipped in alpha 5 ? or do i need to download wubi as standalone app ?
[19:57] <nosrednaekim> libben» I think its shipped with alpha 5
[19:58] <flipstar> !info wubi hardy ... seems like not
[19:58] <ubotu> Package wubi does not exist in hardy
[19:58] <libben> why not ?
[19:59] <libben> wich version does it exist in then ? =)
[19:59] <DaSkreech> Imaginay Iguana
[19:59] <flipstar> the packet is called <wubi> ?
[20:00] <libben> i can see wubi here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/Kubuntu
[20:01] <flipstar> ....wubi is an windows installer...
[20:01] <DaSkreech> but thats for windows!! ^_^
[20:01] <flipstar> so it is on dvd .. not in the repos
[20:01] <DaSkreech> ATE IS N
[20:02] <flipstar> btw for what do you need such things oO
[20:02] <Arwen> help with compiz please. The taskbar shows every single window on every viewport. Can I get it to only show the current one?
[20:02] <DaSkreech> apt-get install frontpage  0_0
[20:05] <prince_jammys> Arwen: i had this problem when i had compiz installed and remember searching the web and having no luck
[20:06] <prince_jammys> Arwen: eventually i stumbled into "it can't be done", but maybe that's wrong.  have you tried the taskbar settings?
[20:06] <Arwen> taskbar settings?
[20:06] <Arwen> in KDE?
[20:06] <prince_jammys> yeah
[20:07] <Arwen> oh cool, there's a patched taskbar that's compiz-aware
[20:07] <Arwen> never mind, yay!
[20:08] <mefisto__> MasseR: I think it's something like "apt-get install kaffeine=version.you.want.installed" but check man apt-get, I may be wrong
[20:08] <frank232> Arwen: by the time Kde 4.1 is released, kwin should have decent compositing
[20:08] <Arwen> screw KDE4
[20:08] <flipstar> err kde4.01
[20:09] <Arwen> 4.01 is already oit
[20:09] <Arwen> out* and it still sucks
[20:09] <flipstar> 4.1 will be released in few months
[20:09] <DaSkreech> it's not old enough yet for that
[20:10] <Arwen> more importantly, gah the shadow effect in compiz is irritating. I liked the old gradient better.
[20:10] <flipstar> Arwen: study ccsm ¦-)
[20:10] <anto> kubuntu france
[20:10] <anto> fr
[20:10] <prince_jammys> yeah it's probably in there in one the five hundred options
[20:11] <prince_jammys> !fr
[20:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:11] <Arwen> yeah, searching for drop shadows..
[20:11] <Eirikeb> Ive tried googling this, but is there some kind of recomended partition system for a fileserver?
[20:11] <Arwen> yeah, use a functional one
[20:12] <flipstar> jfs maybe
[20:12] <Arwen> oh, turning off reflections did the trick
[20:12] <Arwen> Eirikeb, use a reliable one like ext
[20:12] <Arwen> instead of a "fast" one like reiser
[20:12] <flipstar> reiser is better for small files..
[20:13] <Arwen> correction: for LOTS of small files
[20:13] <flipstar> ext3 is better for general..
[20:13] <flipstar> jfs for servers
[20:13] <llutz> xfs better for bigger files (video etc)
[20:13] <flipstar> note:my opinion
[20:13] <Arwen> !compiz > kubuntu
[20:13] <Waterstoff> yes
[20:13] <Arwen> !compiz > Arwen
[20:13] <Waterstoff> note that this is all opinion
[20:13] <llutz> so use ZFS, and solaris of course ;)
[20:13] <Arwen> hehe
[20:14] <flipstar> or wait for ext4 :)
[20:14] <Waterstoff> unless your a crazy ricer that sits in front of your computer with a stopwatch that has millisecond precision, you most likely will not notice a difference
[20:14] <Waterstoff> between any
[20:14] <llutz> Waterstoff: on a heavy loaded fileserver you'll see the differences very quick
[20:15] <flipstar> yep also on the root partition..(there many small files)
[20:15] <Waterstoff> maybe on a true fileserver.. not much where else
[20:15] <limbeaux> i dont think krfb can be configured to run as a service and accept request.
[20:15] <flipstar> krfb can autoaccept
[20:16] <llutz> Waterstoff: we talked about fileserver
[20:16] <flipstar> but run as service..maybe copying to /etc/init.d ..but guess not
[20:17] <limbeaux> yeah, i will just have to figure out how to set up vnc
[20:18] <flipstar> limbeaux: you could use other proggys than krfb..
[20:18] <flipstar> like x11vnc
[20:18] <limbeaux> any with a gui?  i am intermidate at best with kde/linux
[20:18] <flipstar> no it doesnt have a gui
[20:19] <flipstar> no interaction required
[20:20] <flipstar> of course you should run it with x11vnc --passwd <password> else it run without a pass(!!)
[20:21] <flipstar> then you could add this to autostart..thats it
[20:22] <limbeaux> hmm ok
[20:25] <crashed> Third time trying to setup my SAA7134 TV capture driver.
[20:28] <crashed> I always forget what configuration I use. Anyone know how to setup a LifeView SAA7130/SAA7134 TV tuner?
[20:28] <coggz> anyone able to fix wireless
[20:29] <coggz> anyone?
[20:29] <flipstar> !wireless
[20:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:30] <Jewsus> can someone look @ this site in KDE and tell me if it looks busted: http://www.decay.nu
[20:30] <Jewsus> i mean Konqueror, sorry
[20:31] <flipstar> loooks okay here..
[20:31] <frank232> Jewsus: looks ok
[20:31] <Jewsus> flipstar: frank23: thanks. I looked it in firefox 3 beta last night under gnome and it was crazy broken
[20:31] <Jewsus> thanks again
[20:31] <BluesKaj> crashed:  what app are you using with it , tvtime or xawtv or... ?
[20:31] <crashed> tvtime.
[20:31] <frank232> Jewsus: is the wrench at the bottom supposed to do anyhting?
[20:32] <Jewsus> yea, if clicked it's supposed to slide down
[20:32] <crashed> I go through two days of hell everytime I try setting up my tv tuner, and I eventually get it.
[20:32] <crashed> But for some reason it's taking me longer than usuall this time.
[20:33] <frank232> Jewsus: it does nothing when i click the wrench at the bottom
[20:33] <frank232> Jewsus: in konqueror
[20:33] <Jewsus> frank232: does it show any error messages? (i don't use konq so id ont know if it has a js console)
[20:34] <frank232> Jewsus: no it does nothing at all
[20:34] <frank232> Jewsus: i just checked with firefox to see what it was supposed to do
[20:34] <crashed> I know what tuner I use, but I don't know specifically what card. :/
[20:35] <Jewsus> aw =(. thanks frank232. I'm at work now so i'll have to look into this later. thanks again
[20:35] <trappist> crashed: same with me when I set up a tuner :/
[20:37] <flipstar> is there an alternative to cron ?
[20:38] <frank232> Heh.. I just had to plug in my tv tuner and it worked. I bought it knowing it was for linux
[20:38] <DaSkreech> flipstar: A really tight calendar schedule?
[20:38] <trappist> flipstar: there are other things to use instead of cron if you want different functionality, but cron is pretty much what you want to use for regularly scheduled tasks
[20:38] <mefisto__> Jewsus: I just looked at that page with firefox3 beta and it looks fine
[20:38] <flipstar> it just have to run like every 5 minutes..
[20:39] <Jewsus> mefisto__: then it must be something in gnome
[20:39] <llutz> flipstar: why not cron?
[20:39] <Jewsus> weird.... thanks though =]
[20:39] <flipstar> problems at startup with hardy..
[20:39] <Jewsus> im surprised konqueror doesn't have a js console
[20:39] <flipstar> doesnt start..
[20:39] <llutz> flipstar: hardy... alpha... no comment
[20:39]  * trappist backspaces
[20:39] <flipstar> im just asking for an alternative ..
[20:40] <flipstar> guess it is my bad anyway i uninstalled some packages :/
[20:40] <Jewsus> well....you can do stuff manually :)
[20:40] <flipstar> err every 5 minutes type a command in konsole .. ?
[20:40] <flipstar> no thanks :)
[20:41] <crashed><PHONE_NUMBER>050606050500
[20:41] <Jewsus> it -is- an alternative. didn't say anything about it being a good on e :p
[20:41] <crashed><PHONE_NUMBER>4040504505a0c0k454
[20:41] <llutz> flipstar: bash / while / sleep :)
[20:41] <flipstar> llutz: can you explain this a little deeper..?
[20:42] <llutz> flipstar: write a bash-script with a while-loop and use sleep to wait for xxx minutes (man bash tells you how)
[20:42] <Jewsus> llutz: but im sure he'll use different commands
[20:43] <Jewsus> maybe he can put them in an array
[20:43] <flipstar> no just one simple command..
[20:43] <trappist> flipstar: while true; do somecommand;sleep $((60*5));done
[20:43] <flipstar> thanks all :)
[20:44] <Jewsus> then you have to make it start automatically on startup
[20:44] <crashed> I just went through a bunch of card/tuner combinations and I can't get it :(
[20:44] <DaSkreech> Jewsus: Source it in your bashrc file :)
[20:45] <Jewsus> shazam
[20:45] <flipstar> yes..problem is i have to run it as root..
[20:45] <Jewsus> not shazam
[20:45] <llutz> put it into  /etc/rc.local
[20:46] <flipstar> hah great! :)
[20:46] <crashed> Hm, it's not good if modprobe saa7134 -v doesn't output anything?
[20:46] <llutz> crashed: means no error
[20:49] <crashed> I really don't know what to do anymore to setup this tvtuner.
[20:49] <crashed> Can anyone shed some light?
[20:52] <coggz> having trouble with wireless will anyone help?
[20:52] <DaSkreech> !tv
[20:52] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[20:53] <DaSkreech> ^_^
[20:53] <Arwen> can anyone tell me what the point of the "draw fire on the screen" compiz plugin is?
[20:53] <Arwen> :-)
[20:54] <flipstar> press shift+super and find out with mouse :P
[20:54] <flipstar> clear screen with shift+super+c
[20:54] <Arwen> I wasn't asking what it did
[20:54] <Arwen> I asked WHY
[20:54] <crashed> Feels like I've tried everything already.
[20:55] <flipstar> just fun i guess
[20:55] <flipstar> alternative for drawing
[20:55] <tekteen> Arwen: there is no point to compiz at all :-)
[20:55] <dogma_> !fr
[20:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:55] <flipstar> the cube is very useful :)
[20:55] <tekteen> Arwen: it is another feature
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> how would i see what processes are hogging a device?  /dev/dsp to be exact
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> Daisuke_Ido: top, ps, fuser /dev/dsp
[20:57] <flipstar> Arwen: maybe its for scaring people..
[20:58] <Arwen> the cube is actually kind of pointless. much slower than just sliding desktops
[20:58] <DaSkreech> Arwen: Helps people visualise the desktops
[20:58] <flipstar> yes but it has a nice shortcut you can use while working..
[20:58] <DaSkreech> Arwen: I can do that in KDE with different wallpapers but it's much harder in Gnome
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> blech :\
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[20:59]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles
[20:59] <Arwen> stop using OSS :-P
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: it's all UT supports
[21:00] <Arwen> 8fps with cube. That can't be good.
[21:00] <fragmede> Daisuke_Ido: try lsof /dev/dsp ?
[21:00] <flipstar> where do you see an fps on the desktop ?
[21:00] <Daisuke_Ido> fragmede: nothing -_-
[21:00] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, turn off anything else playing sound?
[21:02] <fragmede> whats the output of "ls -l /dev/dsp;groups"
[21:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: everything else is shut down
[21:02] <yuji__> how can I start a program from the shell w/o it being linked to it? (eg from konsole > kate example.txt) and be able to use the shell still?
[21:03] <Daisuke_Ido> alexbe01 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: kate example.txt &
[21:03] <yuji__> thank you very much!
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: That says "run in background", which will work for gui apps.
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: See also screen, which will give you multiple sessions per console.
[21:03] <fragmede> hm, so it's not a permissions problem
[21:03] <Konner> ahhhh
[21:03] <Konner> i need help
[21:04] <Konner> help =[
[21:04] <DaSkreech> !ask
[21:04] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:04] <Konner> Ok
[21:06] <yuji__> jhutchkins_wk: "See also screen?" the little tab at the bottom left?
[21:06] <Konner> Kubuntu was working earlyer so i log onto windows for a bit since shockwave wont work on linux i try loging back onto linux it acts like its starting after the bar is filled with the blue it goes to text saying Konner@desktop login and it doesnt take me to anything
[21:06] <Konner> like it has a system error
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> Konner» are you botting recovery mode?
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> *booting
[21:07] <Konner> No.
[21:07] <coggz> please help with wireless
[21:07] <Konner> I booted to the right one
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> Konner» if not, run the following command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[21:07] <Konner> recovery wont even boot
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> coggz» ok.. whats the problem ?
[21:08] <coggz> my wireless card detects networks, but cannot connect
[21:08] <fragmede> Daisuke_Ido: try "aoss /path/to/program"?
[21:08] <fragmede> (you might need the alsa-oss package)
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> coggz» is the AP encrypted?
[21:09] <coggz> yes
[21:10] <coggz> it works normally, but i hibernated and now it doesn't
[21:10] <Konner> so do i say sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> Konner» upper
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> *yep
[21:10] <Konner> ok
[21:10] <Konner> ill brb if i havr a problem
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> coggz» ah.... run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[21:12] <jhutchins_wk> !info screen
[21:12] <coggz> hmm, says my battery has been removed
[21:12] <Daisuke_Ido> well, it started with sound.
[21:12] <ubotu> screen (source: screen): a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[21:12] <Daisuke_Ido> then segfaulted :(
[21:13] <DaSkreech> !info glob2 hardy
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: That "screen".
[21:13] <ubotu> glob2 (source: glob2): innovative state-of-the-art Real Time Strategy (RTS) game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.23-1 (hardy), package size 938 kB, installed size 2492 kB
[21:13] <DaSkreech> !info kubuntu-desktop intrepid
[21:13] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[21:14] <coggz> gonna reboot, brb
[21:15] <konner> yay it worked
[21:15] <konner> i can boot up into linux again
[21:15] <crashed> Man, I really can't get this tv tuner working, :(
[21:16] <BanTam> you broke it already konner ?
[21:16] <BanTam> :)
[21:16] <konner> yes
[21:16] <konner> x]
[21:16] <konner> i got it fixed again
[21:16] <BanTam> been there done that
[21:16] <BanTam> i just did a fresh install myself
[21:17] <konner> all i did was log off linux and go back and it messed up
[21:17] <konner> xD
[21:17] <BanTam> from all my tinkering around
[21:17] <konner> I did hear Kubuntu isnt very stable. O_o but its the coolest looking one out of them all
[21:17] <konner> thats why im using it
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> konner» great :)
[21:17] <DaSkreech> after a while re-installing will feel like an insult :)
[21:18] <konner> I just dont want to go through setting up the internet again
[21:18] <konner> -.-'
[21:18] <BanTam> i have now probs or complaints..except for adept package manager
[21:18] <DaSkreech> BanTam: What about it?
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> BanTam» just use synaptic like alot of use do ;)
[21:18] <konner> xD im trying to get the windows version of mozilla firefox to work so i can use shockwave x]
[21:19] <BanTam> well when i do an upgrade with it, it gives an error halfway through the upgrade and stops
[21:19] <BanTam> EVERY time
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Gutsy?
[21:19] <BanTam> every time ive done a fresh install and trid to use adept to upgrade i get the same error
[21:19] <BanTam> yes
[21:19] <BanTam> so now i just upgrade with apt
[21:19] <konner> So i can upgrade to synaptic for kubuntu?
[21:20] <konner> xD
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> konner» sure..."sudo apt-get install synaptic
[21:20] <konner> yay
[21:20] <konner> k
[21:20] <konner> one second
[21:21] <konner> that didnt work
[21:21] <konner> =[
[21:21] <konner> says
[21:21] <nordisk> god day
[21:21] <konner> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[21:21] <nordisk> waths the best sql database
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> konner» you on gutsy?
[21:21] <Arwen> hmm, compiz using free radeon drivers is highly, well, cpu-intensive
[21:21] <konner> yeah gusty
[21:22] <MrJoey> Is there a way to reinstall the supplementary drivers that are removed at installation for the destination computer?
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» :)
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> konner» run "sudo apt-get update"first then
[21:22] <trappist> nordisk: if there was a "best" there would probably only be one.  depends on what you need out of an rdbms.
[21:22] <Arwen> yay 4 software rendering
[21:22] <Arwen> it's actually pretty fast considering...
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» uhhh run that by us again... is abit more down-to-earth language?
[21:22] <konner> Ok i ran that
[21:22] <MrJoey> I'm using a USB hard drive to run Kubuntu on my computer, but I can't get it to boot on another computer using the same bootstrap CD
[21:22] <DaSkreech> nordisk: Depends on the purpose
[21:23] <MrJoey> If you get rid of "using the same bootstrap CD" from my last sentence, then it is down-to-earth :)
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» ah!.... well that would depend if the device is refered to byt he same grub/disc ID I would think
[21:23] <DaSkreech> MrJoey: You have a initrd file I think
[21:23] <DaSkreech> Oh that too
[21:23] <MrJoey> My initrd file is both on a CD and on the hard drive
[21:24] <BanTam> whats better to use, performance wise? fglrx driver or ati?
[21:24] <MrJoey> I can bootstrap by using the CD with root=/dev/sdc4 set as a kernel parameter
[21:24] <konner> What do i do after sudo apt-get update
[21:24] <trappist> konner: usually, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:24] <coggz> hi, still no wireless
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» but what if when you move to another computer, the USB disc becomes sdb4?
[21:24] <MrJoey> "fglrx driver or ati?" ==> Well, I don't think nonfunctionality is very good performance-wise :)  (I've had no luck with fglrx, but then again, I don't try much)
[21:25] <MrJoey> Very good point!
[21:25] <MrJoey> Why didn't I think of that?
[21:25] <crashed> nosrednaekim: would you remember what I did to configure this TV tuner properly?
[21:25] <MrJoey> I have an sda and an sdb (2 hard drives)
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> crashed» I don't recall you ever getting it working
[21:25] <MrJoey> the computer I was booting to has only 1
[21:25] <Arwen> BanTam, fglrx is faster, but they're both kind of slow
[21:25] <crashed> I got it working three different times.
[21:25] <crashed> And I can't get it working this time.
[21:25] <MrJoey> I was thinking maybe the USB driver starts at sdc anyway
[21:25] <BanTam> ok thanks
[21:26] <MrJoey> But I ought to try the sdb
[21:26] <DaSkreech> crashed: Documentation is great :)
[21:26] <crashed> Docs haven't helped :P
[21:26] <BanTam> btw i was able to get randr working but when i rebooted it all went away
[21:26] <BanTam> im gong to stick with xinerama for now
[21:26] <BanTam> lol
[21:26] <crashed> I remember finding the right configuration and/or installation on some webpage, but I can't find that webpage anymore.
[21:26] <konner> xD
[21:26] <konner> cant find my kubuntu cd
[21:26] <konner> i need to mark it
[21:26] <BanTam> i got 2 just in case
[21:26] <konner> found it
[21:26] <konner> x]
[21:26] <MrJoey> As for the fglrx, you can try it, but you will lose 3D rendering from the standard "ati" or "radeon" driver due to some problem.  You have to uninstall fglrx to get it back to normal, not just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:26] <flipstar> https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» better yet, I think you can tell it to set root by UUID
[21:27] <BanTam> well thats another story, with xinerama i cant get 3d on BOTH monitors
[21:28] <tr3ei> hi
[21:28] <tr3ei> i have a problem with pppoeconf ... it doesn't work :|.... so i can't connect to the internet using ubuntu :|... any other options ... other than pppoeconf ?  >> http://www.imagebam.com/image/25d32a3066638/
[21:28] <tr3ei> can someone help me with this... ?
[21:29] <crashed> I'm pretty sure I nailed my card and tuner down to 2/2.
[21:29] <crashed> But still tvtime won't work.
[21:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tr3ei: tried kppp?
[21:30] <tr3ei> hm... no. This is for kubuntu only?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> crashed: I meant when you get something working esp after it took you a while. Document it cause you will do it again at some time in the future
[21:30] <crashed> Yeah, I should've written it down somewhere.
[21:30] <Daisuke_Ido> aren't you using kubuntu?
[21:30] <MrJoey> MrJoey» better yet, I think you can tell it to set root by UUID ==> How would I find the UUID of that other hard drive?
[21:30] <konner> Ok just to be safe i went to ship it and ordered me 2 kubuntu CDs and 2 ubuntu CDs
[21:31] <crashed> But if I know what card number and what tuner number, what could be causing the problems?
[21:31] <tr3ei> or it works with ubuntu too ? Because i have the same problem with ubuntu. I've even tried ubuntu/kubuntu 8.04 and i've got the same result
[21:31] <MrJoey> Where is the actual UUID specified?
[21:31] <MrJoey> Is it randomly generated and put somewhere, or is it part of the hard drive that never changes?
[21:31] <Daisuke_Ido> nevermind, kppp won't help, that's ppp, not pppoe
[21:31] <MrJoey> sort of like a MAC address
[21:31] <flipstar> MrJoey: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al
[21:31] <jhutchins_wk> Daisuke_Ido: pppoe is still ppp.
[21:32] <flipstar> MrJoey: it get generated only once in an os
[21:32] <Ayabara> what's the default image viewer in kubuntu?
[21:32] <flipstar> if you reinstall you'll get another one
[21:32] <flipstar> gwenview
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> !UUID
[21:32] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[21:32] <MrJoey> Then I won't be able to use that, though thanks for the information
[21:32] <flipstar> but qiv is much faster :)
[21:32] <konner> Ok i need some more help with instaling synaptic
[21:33] <trappist> flipstar: when you reinstall what, exactly
[21:33] <MrJoey> The computers I'll be trying to boot have messed up Windows installations on them.  I'm reimaging them with Windows (they're not my computers, don't blame me :) )
[21:33] <tr3ei> i've tried to run pppoeconf for eth0 or eth0:avahi only... and this way it asks me the user and the pass... but at the end... it still doesn't work :|
[21:33] <tr3ei> http://www.imagebam.com/image/4dd6383066636/
[21:33] <trappist> flipstar: the uuid doesn't change
[21:34] <konner> Can someone help me install Synaptic on Kubuntu =]
[21:34] <flipstar> MrJoey: as long as the os is the same the uuid does not change
[21:34] <DaSkreech> konner: open adept and search for synaptic
[21:34] <flipstar> trappist: even not on reinstallling the os ?
[21:34] <flipstar> guess yes
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> konner» "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[21:35] <trappist> flipstar: the os is pretty much a collection of packages - when you install, /etc/fstab gets written, with the uuids of your partitions, but those uuids don't change unless the drives/partitions change
[21:35] <konner> i tried apt-get
[21:35] <konner> it says no packafe
[21:35] <konner> package
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> konner» after trying an aupt-get update?
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> *apt-get
[21:36] <flipstar> trappist: so the uuid is written into an file..
[21:36] <flipstar> when i reinstall all files are usally gone..
[21:36] <konner> i tried that
[21:36] <konner> all it does is say
[21:36] <MrJoey> How would I go about doing this:  In the best case scenario, I want to make a respin of Kubuntu so as to add a menu entry to the boot.  This menu entry will go to the single user level and launch a custom script.  If the script fails, it will drop to the single user level command line.
[21:36] <mefisto__> you can regenerate a new uuid and/or set a uuid for a device. I did it a few months ago to replace hard disk and use the same uuid on the new one. but I can't remember the commands.
[21:36]  * crashed sighs.
[21:36] <konner> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> konner» pastebin your "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:37] <konner> k
[21:37] <trappist> flipstar: if you reinstall from scratch, you're creating new partitions... btw I'm still reading about this, and I'm not 100% sure I'm right...
[21:37] <flipstar> synaptic is in main ..
[21:37] <flipstar> not nessesary..
[21:37] <crashed> gonna trash linux if this doesn't work.
[21:37] <konner> How do i open sources.list on kubuntu
[21:37] <konner> gedit wont work
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> flipstar» which is what makes this odd
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> konner» kate
[21:38] <konner> !pastebin
[21:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:38] <flipstar> crashed: you tried google ? with exact card name and so ?
[21:39] <konner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57614/
[21:39] <flipstar> trappist: you can get two different uuids from two os's for the same drive ..
[21:39] <crashed> flipstar: i've tried google so much that no matter what I search, I'll get results that I've already read.
[21:40] <flipstar> oh
[21:40] <flipstar> buy'd a new card ?
[21:40] <crashed> I had this one working not long ago.
[21:40] <crashed> I found the saviour of the configuration on a webpage, and I can't remember where that page was.
[21:40] <flipstar> btw uuidgen can generate new uuid's
[21:40] <DaSkreech> konner: You have adept open/
[21:41] <konner> nope adept isnt open
[21:41] <flipstar> crashed:  thats dammed :/
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> konner» just like I thought.......rease all of the first level comment marks
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> *erase
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> konner» wait.. don't do that... never mind
[21:41] <konner> ok XD
[21:42] <konner> i didnt know what you ment anyways
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> konner» go into adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and check them all off
[21:42] <flipstar> crashed: if you got a generell idea it might help to use the "site: blah.com" command on google..
[21:42] <crashed> flipstar: I haven't got the faintest clue.
[21:42] <flipstar> how is your card called ?
[21:43] <crashed> I just remember googling a bunch of 'saa7130 kubuntu help' -- something like that and eventually finding it.
[21:43] <flipstar> i'll try
[21:43] <crashed> All I know is that it's a LifeView card.
[21:43] <crashed> SAA7130/SAA7134 chipset.
[21:43] <crashed> One of the two.
[21:43] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: yeah it's a lot easier :)
[21:43] <crashed> Lower-end PCI LifeView card.
[21:43] <crashed> I'm rather certain it's #2 card, and #2 tuner.
[21:43] <DaSkreech> konner: alt+space -> type adept -> press enter :)
[21:43] <konner> i got adept done
[21:43] <konner> x]
[21:44] <konner> i checked them off
[21:44] <DaSkreech> konner: It should ask you to reload when you close the dialog
[21:44] <konner> it did
[21:44] <crashed> Now that I think of it the solution was probably on ubuntuforums.org
[21:44] <DaSkreech> Search for synaptic
[21:45] <sam64> Back in Breezy Badger I remember setting Konqueror to organize numbers in chronological order, rather than alphabetical. Now I can't remember how..
[21:45] <ufuntu> hello, could anyone help me pls to make the connection between bibus and openoffice? thanx in advance
[21:45] <DaSkreech> ufuntu: bibus ?
[21:45] <konner> Ok what do i do now.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> konner» push the reload button
[21:46] <DaSkreech> konner: right click and install then click apply
[21:46] <flipstar> crashed: btw what does kdetv or tvtime poste for an error ?
[21:46] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: did that already :)
[21:46] <konner> i pressed reload
[21:46] <konner> i pressed reload 5 minutes ago
[21:46] <konner> x]
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» bleh,.. i'm REALLY slow today :)
[21:46] <crashed> flipstar: no errors.
[21:47] <crashed> But there's no video.
[21:47] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Getting old there :)
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» at 17?I hope not :)
[21:47] <DaSkreech> Ooooolllld
[21:48] <flipstar> crashed: audio ?
[21:48] <crashed> None
[21:49] <flipstar> hm does they show your card or something ?
[21:49] <flipstar> is it correct right
[21:49] <flipstar> err detected
[21:49] <crashed> How would I check>?
[21:50] <konner> i hate the internet browser kubuntu came with
[21:50] <flipstar> is it usb ? > lsusb
[21:50] <crashed> pci
[21:50] <crashed> 05:06.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[21:51] <DaSkreech> konner: ^_^ I learned to like it
[21:51] <DaSkreech> It's not really a web browser it's just really good at faking it
[21:51] <Piddy> Guys, how do I show hidden files in konqueror?
[21:51] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+H
[21:51] <konner> it OPENs file insted of letting me save them
[21:51] <konner> Ah ok
[21:52] <DaSkreech> konner: Right click save
[21:52] <DaSkreech> kon
[21:52] <DaSkreech> konner: Ha ha that's one of the things i love about it
[21:52] <DaSkreech> konner: or right click copy
[21:52] <DaSkreech> You can copy music and flash and all sorts of stuff
[21:52] <DaSkreech> its really quite useful
[21:53] <Eirikeb> <-- idiot
[21:53] <sam64> how do you get numbers organizing properly in Konqueror? (2 before 10)
[21:53] <crashed> I'd have an easier time getting this card to work in windows.
[21:53] <Eirikeb> just changed the name of my "first" user to admin
[21:54] <crashed> And that's not easy either.
[21:54] <Piddy> Guys? Hidden files in konqueror? How:P
[21:54] <tekteen> Ctrl+H
[21:54] <sam64> view>Show Hidden
[21:54] <Eirikeb> and now get some message like"Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation"
[21:54] <crashed> tvtime-scanner says it's finding a few channels.
[21:54] <crashed> Found a channel at  73.75 MHz (73.50 - 73.75 MHz), adding to channel list.
[21:54] <DaSkreech> Piddy: argh Sorry View -> Show hidden I put in the Ctrl+H thing myself
[21:54] <sam64> there is no shortcut on my installation
[21:54] <Piddy> Thanks :)
[21:54] <Eirikeb> i guess Its because I forgot to create a new folder called admin or something
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> Eirikeb» is your home directory owned by the right person? have the right permissions?
[21:54] <Piddy> No problem DaSkreech:P
[21:55] <flipstar> crashed: http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/aideUS/htmlpage/TVCardall.htm you might now this already ..
[21:55] <DaSkreech> It's been there so long I forget it's not standard
[21:55]  * DaSkreech grumbles. Though it should be
[21:55] <DaSkreech> just like F5 should be reload in Adept
[21:55]  * DaSkreech grumbles
[21:55] <sam64> it should..
[21:55] <Eirikeb> I have no idea who owns the home directory
[21:56] <Piddy> Ok, I'm trying to delete .compiz, but it won't work. Access denied it says.
[21:56] <faileas> anyone have any idea why i seem to have twice as many desktops showing up in the panel in kubunu fiesty than i actually have?
[21:57] <crashed> I quit :(
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> Eirikeb» "ls -la" will tell you
[21:57] <flipstar> faileas: using compiz ?
[21:57] <faileas> flipstar: yup
[21:58] <faileas> its cause of that?
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> faileas» use kicker-compiz
[21:58] <tekteen> faileas: yep
[21:58] <[T]an1> i am not successful in installing alsa-driver. I am following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto. when I run make is when it fails. here is the output of make http://pastebin.ca/921224
[21:58] <Piddy> Access denied to /home/per-kristian/.local/share/Trash/files/.compiz.
[21:58] <[T]an1> i could sure use some assistance with this.
[21:58] <Piddy> How do I fix that?
[21:59] <[T]an1> spent the entire day on this now
[21:59]  * faileas supposes he needs to install and run it each time he switches to compiz?
[21:59] <tekteen> just run it
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> [T]an1» for 1.... thats a rather old version of alsa
[22:00] <faileas> o0
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> [T]an1» 2..... you might be able to get more help in #alsa
[22:00] <Eirikeb> hm just another quick question, how I can change another users password from shell?
[22:01] <[T]an1> nosrednaekim: is it possible to install via apt-get or some other version?
[22:01] <tekteen> Eirikeb: yes
[22:01] <tekteen> Eirikeb: sudo passwd USER
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> [T]an1» I think you have to download it fom the alsa website
[22:01] <[T]an1> ok
[22:01] <faileas> what's the command for that?  kicker-compiz isn't found after i installed it
[22:01] <flipstar> Piddy: remove with sudo
[22:01] <Eirikeb> ah, thanks
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> faileas» you have to add them to the panel.... they are panel applets... are you on hardy?
[22:02] <Eirikeb> then its just to get startx to work again
[22:02] <faileas> nosrednaekim: 7.10
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> faileas» didn't realize they made it into the repositories.. cool
[22:02] <Piddy> flipstar: I can't find the right command.
[22:03] <flipstar> sudo rm /home/per-kristian/.local/share/Trash/files/.compiz
[22:03] <mathew_> hey anyone tell me ..... why my frostwire for kubuntu llike tries to load then disppears?
[22:03] <faileas> nosrednaekim: dosen't work tho ;p
[22:03] <mathew_> this also happens with some other programs
[22:03] <mathew_> plz2fix
[22:04] <Eirikeb> xauth: timeout in locking athority file home/eirik.serverauth.8774
[22:04] <Eirikeb> bah
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> faileas» the applet?
[22:04] <[T]an1> nosrednaekim: as I am looking at the alsa website, the version i installed is the most recent one I see. Do you know the current version?
[22:04] <Piddy> flipstar, actually I'm trying to delete my .compiz folder in my home folder.
[22:04] <faileas> nosrednaekim: yup, same issue as with the normal one
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> faileas» oooh, maybe its the other package.... the pager....
[22:04]  * nosrednaekim forgets what that one is called though
[22:04]  * faileas is trying to get 4 desktops to get the cube
[22:05] <flipstar> Piddy: sudo rm <whateveryouwanttodeletethatisownedbyroot>