[00:00] <shane2peru> SpookyET, if you don't like Ubuntu, that is fine, don't come here trashing it though.
[00:00] <sunmao> sombody use squirrelmail here?
[00:00] <IndyGunFreak> why do you need a live cd, if you installed w/ the alternate install cd Platyhelminth
[00:00] <blankhead> androver: hw would i tell if theres a conflict there?
[00:00] <androver> SonicStream: I saw you got a response to your message on the forums...did you look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423461&highlight=amd64+brother&page=2
[00:00] <tomtommy> Platyhelminth, try the livecd and see if it loads. if it does, install from that.
[00:00] <b4xt0r> If anyone is knowledgeable enough to help with my audio problems please PM me, would be much appreciated.
[00:00] <oboy03> how do i safely upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the installation disk
[00:00] <shane2peru> SpookyET, errors happen
[00:00] <androver> blankhead: I would assume that a message would pop up or something :)
[00:00] <SonicStream> Yea I took a look at it but it's very confusing
[00:00] <IndyGunFreak> !upgrade | oboy03
[00:00] <bagelong> matthias: I have the file downloaded for the drivers
[00:00] <ubotu> oboy03: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:00] <sunmao> sombody use squirrelmail here?
[00:00] <tomtommy> whats a webcam program I can use?
[00:00] <blankhead> nah i get nothing...
[00:00] <IndyGunFreak> !webcam | tomtommy
[00:00] <ubotu> tomtommy: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:01] <androver> blankhead: if nothing happens there, try running "sudo apt-get -f install" at command line
[00:01] <blankhead> androver: okay ima try
[00:01] <TimMatrix> Yo, matthais!
[00:01] <fluid> Hey guys.  Simple question.  How can I uninstall Shockwave Flash plugin from Firefox?
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> fluid: same way you do in firefox on windows.
[00:01] <bagelong> timmatrix:  he's mine I'll tell you.  I thinks we are having similar problems.
[00:01] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to enable the Broadcom B43 driver, but when I check its box in Hardware Drivers, it tells me I need a computer restart and then doesn't actually load the driver when I restart--the box is still when I go back to Hardware Drivers.
[00:01] <crc32> is their documentation on how to use the cryptmount package?
[00:01] <androver> SonicStream: have you tried just installing some other brother printer that's close to yours?  that works an awful lot.
[00:01] <bigtimer121> IndyGuyFreak: how do i customize my settings for the "visual effects" in 8.04
[00:02] <TimMatrix> bagelong:  what problem you had?
[00:02] <SonicStream> androver: That works?
[00:02] <LogicalDash> fluid: go into .mozilla/firefox/plugins and delete libflashplayer.so
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: you need to install ccsm.. did you get your nvidia card working?
[00:02] <fluid> IndyGunFreak, If I knew, I would have done it by now.. I asked the question, didn't I?
[00:02] <sunmao> sombody use squirrelmail here?
[00:02] <sunmao> sombody use squirrelmail here?
[00:02] <sunmao> sombody use squirrelmail here?
[00:02] <androver> SonicStream: sometimes, yeah.
[00:02] <FloodBot2> sunmao: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <bagelong> timmatrix:minipc wireless card
[00:02] <fluid> LogicalDash,  Thanks for not being a smartass. :)
[00:02] <bagelong> TimMatrix:  I think matthias ran for the hills
[00:02] <SonicStream> Alright, I'll check the sight and look at the others in the same thing
[00:02] <TimMatrix> bagelong: lol, yeah.  you got Toshiba laptop?
[00:02] <blankhead> androver: okay cool it told me to autoremove libawn-bzr so i did now ima see if that fixed it
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> fluid: perhaps you need to learn who is beign a smartass, i gave you a true answer, you do it the same way you do on windows, go to youtube, when the add plugin thing comes up, add the freakin plugin
[00:02] <androver> good luck SonicStream
[00:02] <bagelong> TimMatrix: dell
[00:02] <LogicalDash> fluid, i'm like that sometimes
[00:03] <fluid> I'm sorry, Indy.
[00:03] <fluid> Not really.
[00:03] <bigtimer121> IndyGuyFreak: yes i did get it working and around 10 min ago too. took me forever. and i already installed ccsm
[00:03] <TimMatrix> bagelong: odd, dell supports linux.  Dell now sells ubuntu-installed laptops?!!
[00:03] <fluid> Doesn't work for me that way.. or perhaps I just don't have your intelligence.
[00:03] <terrestre> in heron was easy install my brother printer, lucky me
[00:03] <kasimir> what is the new Ubuntu way to changing screen resolution?  Because Hardy Heron cannot use the right resolution on this computer with a clean install
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: then got o system/pref/appearance, visual effects tab, and there should be a "custom" option there, choose it, and there's like 40 quadrillion optionjs there
[00:03] <fluid> when I go to youtube, it gives me a like to an Adobe site.
[00:03] <SonicStream> Wait, androver: Would I just select one of them in the new printer, or would I have to install the CUPS and LPR or w/e it is again?
[00:04] <blankhead> androver: SUCCESS THANK YOU MAN
[00:04] <bagelong> timmatrix:  I know, I was hoping it would be just an install and go.  It is a brand new system.  I didn't want to make the jump to vista
[00:04] <androver> blankhead: awesome :)
[00:04] <InfernoX222> when running 'sudo apt-get install update' and 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' i get an error (no specific error code or anything) Ubuntu 8.04 distro
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> fluid: then you're doing something wrong, but regardless, follow the instructions at adobe's site.
[00:04] <bagelong> Pelo:  I have been abandoned and you are the man.  Can you help me.
[00:04] <hellonull> kasimir: do you have an nvidia or ati graphics card? if so you need to make sure you have the correct drivers installed first
[00:04] <Pelo> bagelong, still on the wifi stuff ?
[00:04] <androver> SonicStream: try selecting one with your current printer
[00:04] <avernos> how can i do to make gnome xchat to automatically put my nick and pass?
[00:04] <fluid> Follow their instructions on how to REMOVE shockwave flash?
[00:04] <kasimir> hellonull: thanks for helping me! I have an intel embedded graphics card
[00:04] <digglerstreet> who here has used O3Spaces and compared it to Sharepoint?
[00:04] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to enable the Broadcom B43 driver, but when I check its box in Hardware Drivers, it tells me I need a computer restart and then doesn't actually load the driver when I restart--the box is still empty when I go back to Hardware Drivers.
[00:04] <bagelong> pelo:  absotiveoposolutely
[00:05] <bigtimer121> IndyguyFreak: there is no option or custom button there
[00:05] <Pelo> bagelong, did you manage to get ndiswrapper working ?
[00:05] <blankhead> androver: it worked like a charm so now i know when i install something to sudo apt-get remove what i installed....is there a way of seeing extactly what i installed before it went wrong? god forbid i lost the site i was on and i needed to check whats conflicting with the program is there a way to find out cuz i run into this kinds of stuff alot
[00:05] <bigtimer121> what is the exact file i shouldave downloaded
[00:05] <mkquist> are people having problems w/upgrading?
[00:05] <tomtommy> Thats amazing!! My Laptop inbuilt Webcam now works on Ubuntu.  Good job Hardy :)
[00:05] <TimMatrix> bagelong: didn't want vista.
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: are you sure its you installed it
[00:05] <mikebot> Oh, I have another question: My tracker hasn't been indexing--when I try to re-index, it disappears from the panel, and I have to re-open it with like `tracker-applet' (in which case there is then two in the panel), and it still hasn't indexed anything... Anyone know why this is happening?
[00:05] <Some_Person> bigtimer121: do you still need help removing nvidia-glx?
[00:05] <Pelo> mkquist, some
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> !ccsm | bigtimer121
[00:05] <ubotu> bigtimer121: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:05] <digglerstreet> who here has used O3Spaces and compared it to Sharepoint?
[00:05] <bagelong> pelo:  I have it working, but it says there is no hardware for the driver
[00:05] <ToM-X> Hey, can someone help me with a fix for ACPI for my laptop??
[00:05] <androver> blankhead: there's a way to show what's been installed already...i'll look it up, just a sec
[00:05] <tomtommy> Hardy now supports my Asus Laptop inbuilt Webcam. It now works :)
[00:05] <Pelo> bagelong, are you sure you got the rigth driver ?
[00:05] <tomtommy> isnt anyone going to cheer with me? :)
[00:05] <tomd123> ToM-X: what's the problem
[00:05] <mkquist> Pelo: i guess i shouldv'e said 'a lot of problems'... thinking about trying it myself
[00:06]  * IndyGunFreak cheers w/ tomtommy
[00:06] <MoRk> Доброй ночи всем
[00:06] <crc32> how do I list files provided by a package before installing it?
[00:06] <Abd> tomtommy ok, here goes IIUUUPPPIIIII
[00:06] <bigtimer121> Some_person: no.  i got it. thanks so much for the help
[00:06] <Ropechoborra> Hi. There is a problem with Ubuntu on Olivetti 500 series notebooks that hasn't been fixed in any distribution. Is there a way to contact the developers to consider a posible solution?
[00:06] <tomtommy> IndyGunFreak, my Laptop inbuilt Webcam never worked, but now on Hardy it does
[00:06]  * Pelo beats tomtommy for being a douche in the channel
[00:06] <tomtommy> Abd, lol
[00:06] <InfernoX222> when running 'sudo apt-get install update' and 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' i get an error (no specific error code or anything) Ubuntu 8.04 distro
[00:06] <matthias> bagelong:  back ...
[00:06] <IndyGunFreak> tomtommy: pretty new laptop?
[00:06] <bagelong> Pelo:  I have tried bcmwl5 which was recommended everywhere in ubuntu, and bcmwl6 which was recommended by dell for this system running vista
[00:06] <gijake> I installed heron with wubi, and it booted fine before, but now it goes into a terminal thing after the OS loads.
[00:06] <ToM-X> tomd123: I have no boot acpi=off but I need power management so I know my battery status :P
[00:06] <mvinsc> how do i sent ringtones to my cell via bluetooth? better yet what would be the default password for my laptop?
[00:06] <^VoiD^> please how do i start gDesklets at star of the system?
[00:06] <tomtommy> Pelo, have you ever been guilty of being a douche ?
[00:06] <Some_Person> bigtimer121: you're welcome, and sorry i had to leave so suddenly (internet troubles)
[00:06] <TimMatrix> bagelong: how long u been using Ubuntu?
[00:06] <androver> blankhead: "dpkg --get-selections" will show you all installed packages.  there may be a way to show them in date order but I don't know it.
[00:06] <mikebot> Or rather, does anyone know why when I right-click and press `re-index' on tracker, it just disappears?
[00:06] <terrestre> fluid,  sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree && sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:06] <bagelong> matthias:  thanks, I was getting desperate
[00:07] <tomtommy> IndyGunFreak, 1 year old, but my webcam never worked before I installed Hardy
[00:07] <TimMatrix> welcome back, Matthais
[00:07] <bagelong> TimMatrix:  On an old/extra system for about 5 months
[00:07] <bigtimer121> some_person: how do i install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:07] <tomd123> ToM-X: is it because if you leave the acpi on, it hangs at boot time with some error?
[00:07] <androver> mvinsc: google for "bitpim", it'll do what you want
[00:07] <Pelo> bagelong, is the wifi built in or card you pop in ?
[00:07] <matthias> bagelong:  you have downloaded the driver from dell that is for windows xp
[00:07] <TimMatrix> same here, bagelong.
[00:07] <saki> !ics
[00:07] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: the link i gave you told you
[00:07] <ubotu> If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[00:07] <bagelong> pelo: built in
[00:07] <crc32> how do I list files provided by a package before installing it?
[00:07] <bagelong> Matthias: both
[00:07] <PhilcoBill> !HELP
[00:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:07] <fluid> terrestre, Will that uninstall the Shockwave Flash?  Isn't there a difference?
[00:07] <ChrisULM> firefox 3 on my windows box has a theme with big green arrows, but ff3 on my ubuntu box has two small blue arrows. Is there a way i can change them to make them green?
[00:07] <blankhead> androver: awesome that'll help linux is getting so cool the hell with windows man
[00:07] <ToM-X> tomd123: Everything stops responding unless I touch the touchpad or keyboard :(
[00:07] <matthias> bagelong:  just the Xp one interests me ...
[00:07] <Byan> what are those things you put on the gnome panels called
[00:08] <PhilcoBill> I have an exernal Hardrive that I am unable to change permissions on.
[00:08] <mkquist> anyone know how long the upgrade should take?
[00:08] <IndyGunFreak> fluid: are you using 64bit?
[00:08] <PhilcoBill> external
[00:08] <Pelo> bagelong, got a chipset model ? goto the makers website and get the driver for XP or lower ,  vista is too new, probably not well supported by ndiswrapper
[00:08] <bigtimer121> indyGuyFreak: please send again
[00:08] <matthias> bagelong:  where is the rxxx.exe file located .
[00:08] <Jordan_U> ferris_, Still there?
[00:08] <InfernoX222> when running 'sudo apt-get install update' and 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' i get an error (no specific error code or anything) Ubuntu 8.04 distro
[00:08] <fluid> IndyGunFreak, 32 bit.
[00:08] <aphan9> abd, could u give me a link for the instructions plz?
[00:08] <bagelong> matthias:  I created the directory, but didn't put anything in it yet
[00:08] <PhilcoBill> Root has no access
[00:08] <zcat[1]> hardy is out? I never even suspected it was gay!
[00:08] <kasimir> what is the Ubuntu way of changing my resolution/monitor? Should I use xorg.conf?
[00:08] <hellonull> kasimir: no problem. what is your graphics card?
[00:08] <IndyGunFreak> well then i can't explain why you can't install it..
[00:08] <bagelong> pelo:  I have both drivers
[00:08] <tomd123> ToM-X: when? when your logged in or when your booting?
[00:08] <Pelo> bagelong, and the xp one doesn't work either ?
[00:08] <androver> InfernoX222: copy/paste the errors into a pastebin and post the url please
[00:08] <Ropechoborra> mkquist depending on the weight of the files and your internet connection speed
[00:08] <crc32> how do I list files provided by a package before installing it?
[00:08] <bagelong> matthias: desktop
[00:08] <fluid> The Shockwave Flash keeps crashing my Firefox.  I disable it, it quits crashing.  I can install the flashplug-nonfree, BUT it does  NOT show up in about:plugins
[00:08] <ToM-X> tomd123: Both sometimes.
[00:08] <gijake> I installed heron with wubi, and it booted fine before, but now it goes into a terminal thing after the OS loads.
[00:09] <matthias> ok do cd wireless
[00:09] <hellonull> kasimir: normally you can go to system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[00:09] <ezzieyguywu1> i'm having problems with resuming from suspend with compiz enabled in hardy: i get a blank screen. any help?
[00:09] <Pelo> crc32, what ?
[00:09] <matthias> make sure the promt says wireless ...
[00:09] <bagelong> pelo: no.  Keeps saying no hardware present in the windows network driver
[00:09] <blankhead> anyone knows how to install avant windows navigator themes in hardy or where to get them?
[00:09] <terrestre> fluid, are you using feisty. gutsy, heron?
[00:09] <bagelong> matthias: in the terminal
[00:09] <TimMatrix> matthais can we do this tomorrow, re: the wireless problem?
[00:09] <bagelong> matthias:?
[00:09] <fluid> Gutsy.
[00:09] <djlenoir> shane2peru, successfully booted (got past the error 22) after disconnecting my two PATA drives. what do i do to figure out how to hook them back up now?
[00:09] <matthias> bagelong: yes
[00:09] <Pelo> bagelong, does your wifi card appear in lspci ?
[00:09] <androver> crc32: stupid answer: google "<package name> hardy" and it'll probably be one of the first results, at packages.ubuntu.com i think
[00:09] <fluid> I think what you just gave me, terrestre, worked.
[00:09] <kasimir> hellonull: yeah, but it does have anything that works with my monitor... my monitor uses 1600x1200 at 75 Hz, and this current resolution is just hurting my eyes
[00:09] <GIn> how do you install a spalsh screen for gnome?
[00:09] <monday> where can I get ax1400 drivers for my ati graphics card?
[00:09] <bagelong> matthias:  the last thing I put was mkdir wireless
[00:10] <bigtimer121> Some_person: can you give me a walk through link on how to use the visual effects
[00:10] <bagelong> Pelo: yes
[00:10] <androver> GIn: preferences->splash screen
[00:10] <Pelo> !ati | monday
[00:10] <ubotu> monday: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:10] <kasimir> hellonull: it seems that the are that I used to find out my hardware information is gone?
[00:10] <ezzieyguywu1> blankhead : yes, you ahve to a bit a googling and the howto where they show you the extra repositories to add. then the download will include all the applets :-D
[00:10] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: did you get ccsm installed?
[00:10] <matthias> bagelong:  yes do cd wireless to jumpo in there ...
[00:10] <crc32> Pelo: I'm trying to verify if cryptmount-setup is included in the cryptmount package. But dpkg -l cryptmount requires me to install the package first.
[00:10] <Pelo> bagelong, just to make sure has this card ever worked in any OS before ?
[00:10] <InfernoX222> my error:
[00:10] <InfernoX222> inferno@Inferno-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install update
[00:10] <InfernoX222> Reading package lists... Done
[00:10] <InfernoX222> Building dependency tree
[00:10] <InfernoX222> Reading state information... Done
[00:10] <InfernoX222> E: Couldn't find package update
[00:10] <FloodBot2> InfernoX222: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <tomd123> ToM-X: I don't know if my problem is related to yours but my acpi was screwing the boot up, I have found the solution to be keeping acpi on and removing the power plug from my laptop and booting till you see the ubuntu logo, then you can plugin power again, I didn't have problems with my keyboard though, you can try it though
[00:10] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[00:10] <blankhead> THANK U DUDE
[00:10] <GIn> androver: I don't have that
[00:10] <Ropechoborra> !paste > InfernoX222
[00:10] <bagelong> matthias: It is a brand new system with vista.  I used it for a few minuted in vista before the instatll
[00:10] <TimMatrix> :)
[00:10] <androver> InfernoX222: those are two separate commands.  don't put them together like that.
[00:10] <SonicStream> agh, My head hurts
[00:10] <tanner> anyone get vmware-server-console working?
[00:11] <ezzieyguywu1> i'm having problems with resuming from suspend with compiz enabled in hardy: i get a blank screen. any help?
[00:11]  * IndyGunFreak thinks.. "Hey, there's 1450 people in a room, so i'll paste 15 lines of text! yeah!"
[00:11] <bagelong> matthias:  I am not sure what you wanted me to do.
[00:11] <fluid> terrestre, Uh.  Even with what you just gave me..
[00:11] <fluid> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player..  it's not in the about:plugins.. and I think that's because if i go to Plugins, it still lists "Shockwave Flash"
[00:11] <bigtimer121> IndyGuyFreak: how do i check, pretty sure i have, but it doesn't look like i have
[00:11] <Pelo> crc32, is this a package from the repos ?
[00:11] <ToM-X> tomd123: So their is no *fix* then?
[00:11] <crc32> yes cryptmount
[00:11] <matthias> bagelong:  okey but still i am using only the windos xp but let us hope it contains the file i am looking for ...
[00:11] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: my name is indygunfreak, not guy... and second... do you see a custom option on the visual effects tab?
[00:11] <lendo1> I got a problem with 8.04, every option I click bring me to the shell busybox, any older version installed fine in safe graphic mode..any ideas ?
[00:11] <josh04_> bagelong: You need to edit your rc.local as this thread says, about midway down the first post
[00:11] <androver> GIn: apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[00:11] <hellonull> kasimir: in terminal the command "lspci" should tell you about your graphics card
[00:12] <PhilcoBill> How do you get root access?
[00:12] <spiderfire> gayde is gay
[00:12] <InfernoX222> androver: that command is what i was told to type in order to use the apt-get for this particular thing
[00:12] <bagelong> Matthias:  I meant the vista stuff for pelo.  He asked if it ever worked
[00:12] <tomd123> ToM-X: atm, I don't think so, you can also search bugs on ubuntu and see if others have problems
[00:12] <david_-_->  here is what i get after removing wine and reinstalling it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64600/   then i did dmesg in the term after the errors and this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64601/
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> PhilcoBill: sudo
[00:12] <terrestre> fluid, i dont remember if in gutsy restricted install flash plugin but for me work that way
[00:12] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: no
[00:12] <ezzieyguywu1> i'm having problems with resuming from suspend with compiz enabled in hardy: i get a blank screen. any help?
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> then you didn't install it.
[00:12] <laeg> will 'sudo apt get update wine' update wine to the current version? (the update isn't listed in update manager)
[00:12] <Pelo> lendo1, reconfigure X
[00:12] <bagelong> josh04 I'm getting confused.  what?
[00:12] <kasimir> hellonull: thanks, it is ' Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)'
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: open synaptic
[00:12] <ShadowCrawler> Can anyone help me get my broadcom wireless card working, preferably in a private message?
[00:12] <androver> InfernoX222: they told you wrong.  what are you trying to install?
[00:12] <matthias> bagelong:  you are in the directoy  wireless _
[00:13] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: ok, srry about the miss spelling
[00:13] <ToM-X> tomd123: Thanks, I can't imagine finding anything..I seem to have a laptop nobody else has :/
[00:13] <InfernoX222> androver: go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4776899 thats the forum i am trying to follow (diff driver vers)
[00:13] <smallfoot-> anyone out there with a GeForce card and pink shadows? try this: "sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/nvidia/libwfb.so.xserver-xorg-core /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so"
[00:13] <bagelong> josh04:  several are chiming in, hence the confusion.  What did you say?
[00:13] <aquaboot> .
[00:13] <PhilcoBill> IndyGunFreak, I need to change permissions on a HDD.  The GUI will not allow root access
[00:13] <lendo1> Pelo: I can't want to do a fresh install
[00:13] <androver> laeg: if you're running hardy, it should, but go to http://winehq.org/ and add their repo for bleeding-edge newest.
[00:13] <Some_Person> !ccsm
[00:13] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:13] <PhilcoBill> sudo does not work either
[00:13] <xyzpaw> can anyone tell me how to add my bluetooth mouse in 8.04? it keeps saying "obex://[00:12:5a:68:f9:e3]" is not a valid location."
[00:13] <IndyGunFreak> PhilcoBill: the you need to chmod it.
[00:13] <ohQahTanzinWan> hey so i am dual booting windows/heron just to try it out and when i booted into it this morning (my second attempt) it went straight to a text screen instead of a gui. whats up?
[00:13] <InfernoX222> if i try the 'apt-get install build-essentials' i get the same output
[00:13] <josh04_> bagelong: Follow mathias' instructions for now, see if you get anywhere. i'll be around
[00:13] <Pelo> lendo1, what ?
[00:13] <ezzieyguywu1> xyz: did you sudo hidd --search ??
[00:13] <PhilcoBill> IndyGunFreak tried it
[00:13] <bagelong> matthias:  ok.  Now what?
[00:13] <laeg> androver: i am in hardy, i will try to what you said
[00:13] <IndyGunFreak> PhilcoBill: then you're doing something wrong
[00:13] <ezzieyguywu1> i'm having problems with resuming from suspend with compiz enabled in hardy: i get a blank screen. any help?
[00:13] <CypherX1389> Who would be the best person to talk to on video card driver issues?
[00:13] <PhilcoBill> Yeah, but what?
[00:13] <CJS3141> ShadowCrawler: Have you checked first whether it is compatible with Linux? or whether you will have to use ndiswrapper instead?
[00:14] <lendo1> Pelo: How I can reconfigure X if nothing is installed
[00:14] <matthias> what is the drivers name for the wireless on the desktop _
[00:14] <Pelo> bagelong, if I don'T know, sorry I can'T help,
[00:14] <xyzpaw> my mouse shows up on the list of devices but i cant connect to it
[00:14] <crc32> how do you setup apt to use a new mirror when the main us.archive.ubuntu.com craps out? I downloaded netselect but it looks debian centric.
[00:14] <gnomefreak> lendo1: you cant you have to install X first
[00:14] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: had it on my comp, just not installed
[00:14] <matthias> bagelong:  what si the name of the driver you have on the desktop _
[00:14] <Kovecses> lendo1, if nothing is installed then there is no X
[00:14] <lendo1> ok
[00:14] <PhilcoBill> It is strange. The GUI won't give root access,
[00:14] <Pelo> lendo1, ah, I thought this was an installed system,  get the alternate install cd ,  install from that , it's a text based installer,  it is much easier on the hardware
[00:14] <androver> InfernoX222: the first command should just be "sudo apt-get update"
[00:14] <unop> crc32, you can edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (as root)
[00:14] <bagelong> matthias:  The file is Dell_multi-device_A17_R174291.exe
[00:15] <gnomefreak> PhilcoBill: depends what you want to do
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: ok, so what are you installing"
[00:15] <ohQahTanzinWan> im booted ubuntu heron and i have no gui. what do i need to do?
[00:15] <ezzieyguywu1> i'm having problems with resuming from suspend with compiz enabled in hardy: i get a blank screen. any help?
[00:15] <lendo1> so why with the install CD of 8.04 every option bring me to busybox ??
[00:15] <bagelong> matthias: in the desktop
[00:15] <matthias> bagelong:  that driver is from dell ___
[00:15] <Kovecses> ezzieyguywu1, did iyou check #compiz-fusion?
[00:15] <gnomefreak> lendo1: bad ISO or bad burn
[00:15] <towlie> im doing a fresh install of hardy with the alternate cd
[00:15] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: the ccsm manager
[00:15] <pr4bh> damn, how do i load windows vista's iso via grub? :s
[00:15] <Pelo> ohQahTanzinWan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then restart
[00:15] <smallfoot-> lendo1, idk, it works for me
[00:15] <bagelong> matthias: yes.
[00:15] <InfernoX222> androver: ok that worked :) what aobut the build-essentials?
[00:15] <gnomefreak> lendo1: check the md5sum of the ISo to see if its right
[00:15] <ezzieyguywu1> Kovecses : I will go, thanks
[00:15] <ohQahTanzinWan> Pelo:  ty
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: ok, is it installed?
[00:15] <CypherX1389> Who would be the best person to talk to on video card driver issues? Anyone?
[00:15] <androver> InfernoX222: run "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"
[00:15] <yowshi>  hmmm synaptic and apt-get are both giving me this wierd error saying some files that are apparently marked as symlinks arnet symlinks
[00:15] <towlie> im doing a fresh install of hardy with the alternate cd. is there any advantages to using jfs or reiserfs vs ext3 ?
[00:15] <bagelong> Matthias:  that it the file that contains the driver
[00:15] <lendo1> ok thx
[00:16] <saki_> I officially hate setting up ICS in Ubuntu >.>
[00:16] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: what card?
[00:16] <Kovecses> ezzieyguywu1, if not you might want to google it....nothing i have heard of yet
[00:16] <Pelo> CypherX1389, it's best to just state your issue and hope someoen can help
[00:16] <yowshi> anyone able to help me suss out what the cause is and how to fix it?
[00:16] <gnomefreak> lendo1: np
[00:16] <kasimir> hellonull: it seems that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing
[00:16] <fluid> terrestre, 1:application/futuresplash:FutureSplash Player:spl:$ , 0:application/x-shockwave-flash:Shockwave Flash:swf:$ - i want to remove both of these.. but they're not in the plugin directory.. I can't find ~/.mozilla a plugin directory in there.  any idea?
[00:16] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: yes, and now the customize button has appeared in the vidual effects tab
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: ok.
[00:16] <youness> salut
[00:16] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: nVidia 6 series.
[00:16] <hellonull> kasimir: read this thread it may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=675870
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> i don't mess w/ compiz, but there's a lot of settings there, you'll have to experiment
[00:16] <gnomefreak> fluid: check if they are in the mozilla dir in /usr/lib
[00:16] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: install nvidia-glx-new
[00:16] <matthias> bagelong:  okey do in terminal window mv home/<your username>/Desktop/dell .....exe .
[00:16] <bigtimer121> Indygunfreak: thanks so much, this is why i love ubuntu! the help!
[00:17] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  have you tried metacity compositing yet ?
[00:17] <xyzpaw> can anyone help me with my bluetooth mouse? it shows up on the list of devices but when I click connect it says, ""obex://[00:12:5a:68:f9:e3]" is not a valid location."
[00:17] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: that should be about it
[00:17] <ezzieyguywu1> Kovecses: I tried some googling, and apparantly someone had the same problem before the final release, but that forum is now closed in ubuntu forums and they never resolved the issue there. I think it might have something to to with a "warm boot" screen option or something that I had to fix back in fiesty, but i forgot where that option was
[00:17] <xyzpaw> can anyone help me with my bluetooth mouse? it shows up on the list of devices but when I click connect it says, ""obex://[00:12:5a:68:f9:e3]" is not a valid location."
[00:17] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: How? Am very new to Linux.
[00:17] <matthias> bagelong:  you will move the file from desktop to your directory where you are standing that is wireless
[00:17] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: not really.. i'm a keep it simple fella.
[00:17] <kasimir> hellonull: hm... but "Screens and Graphics" doesn't exist in Hardy Heron
[00:17] <ezzieyguywu1> xyz: is your mouse in discoverable mode? also, my mouse does that when the battery is almost dead
[00:17] <Pelo> !bluetooth | xyzpaw
[00:17] <ubotu> xyzpaw: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[00:17] <kasimir> hellonull: or at least I can't find it!
[00:17] <InfernoX222> androver: i get the same output as i did with the previous command (pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64606/)
[00:17] <xyzpaw> what pelo?
[00:17] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, just give it a try
[00:17] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: eithe ropen synaptic and look for it or in term type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[00:17] <hellonull> kasimir: it is system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[00:18] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: whats the package called?
[00:18] <crc32> What package contains the cryptmount-setup script? I installed cryptmount but the script is not provided.
[00:18] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: is that "apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"?
[00:18] <Pelo> xyzpaw,  just look at the link ubotu gave you
[00:18] <crc32> ?
[00:18] <androver> InfernoX222: maybe they got rid of that package in hardy...just a sec
[00:18] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  not package, it's already in ,   gconf-editor,  apps/metacity/general  check the compositing box
[00:18] <fernando> Boa noite, estou tentando instalar o ubuntu mas da erro depois de instalar na hora do primeiro boot, se alguém puder me ajudar agradeço
[00:18] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: X won't start, it just gives me a multitude of errors.
[00:18] <oboy03> can i update 7.10 using the 8.04 live cd
[00:18] <InfernoX222> androver: no prob :) sorry im just in my... 3rd day of using linux haha
[00:18] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: oh ok
[00:18] <mvinsc> androver: thanks,  but i have a sony phone
[00:18] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[00:18] <DB42> does ubuntu 8.04 have a DVD download option with all the varients ?
[00:18] <Jambon> anyone know what to do about grub haning on the install?
[00:18] <Cpudan80> oboy03: No - you need the alternate CD
[00:18] <Stormx2> !br | fernando
[00:18] <ubotu> fernando: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[00:18] <kasimir> hellonull: hm... only 5 resolutions come up with that, I can't select my graphics card... am I doing something wrong?
[00:18] <oboy03> aw
[00:19] <Neverb> where i can get manual for rc.local configuration file ?
[00:19] <matthias> bagelong:  the brackets is not a directory it is here you need to put your directory name
[00:19] <androver> InfernoX222: they put an "s" at the end by mistake :)  "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[00:19] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: Thanks a bunch. :)
[00:19] <Cpudan80> oboy03: I have the i386 one if the mirrors are too slow for you
[00:19] <Cpudan80> oboy03: 10GB line
[00:19] <dupin> hi
[00:19] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: can you paste the last few erros on pastebin (you can use the nv driver for now until you get it working
[00:19] <Pelo> Neverb, rc.local you only put in path to scritp files,  nothing major
[00:19] <oboy03> maybe i can use torrents
[00:19] <Pelo> !torrents | oboy03
[00:19] <ubotu> oboy03: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[00:20] <DB42> does ubuntu 8.04 have a DVD download option with all the varients ?
[00:20] <bagelong> matthias: it says missing destination file operand after ......
[00:20]  * Pelo is seeding  live cd , alt cd and dvd
[00:20] <Cpudan80> oboy03: you could --- or I can D_C_C it to you, whatever you prefer
[00:20] <Neverb> ah..
[00:20] <smallfoot-> DB42, no, but some of us wish it did :)
[00:20] <androver> DB42 read what ubotu just posted
[00:20] <crc32> If you can't find a file thats supposed to be included in a package how do I go about finding out what package provides the file?
[00:20] <InfernoX222> androver: nice! would u happen to know nething about madwifi for DLink DWA-643?
[00:20] <Neverb> so where i can configure routing ?
[00:20] <Pelo> DB42, tutorial of what ?
[00:20] <oboy03> i'll just torrent tnx
[00:20] <oboy03> :)
[00:20] <DB42> Pelo: huh ?
[00:20] <Abd67> ShadowCrawler you have a PM
[00:20] <matthias> bagelong:  no the ... is that you need ti fill in the while file name ..., one example ..
[00:20] <gnomefreak> Pelo: what is the speed looking like on torrent?
[00:20] <laeg> androver: that worked nicely, ty
[00:21] <Neverb> there is no rc.conf, like in FreeBSD %(
[00:21] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: pastebin?
[00:21] <androver> InfernoX222: maybe, probably not, but post what's happening and we'll see :)
[00:21] <joricj> is there a command to change your screen brightness?
[00:21] <IndyGunFreak> the torrents are smoking right now, probably faster than dcc
[00:21] <gnomefreak> !pastebin > CypherX1389
[00:21] <androver> laeg: yw
[00:21] <crc32> If you can't find a file thats supposed to be included in a package how do I go about finding out what package provides the file?
[00:21] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: see your pm from ubotu
[00:21] <Cpudan80> oboy03: once you get the ISO, you can just mount it and run the upgrade -- no need to burn it
[00:21] <bagelong> matthias:  Here is what I put:  mv home/longfamily/Desktop/Dell_multi-device_A17_R174291.exe
[00:21] <letynsoft> hiredgoon, i've just installed new Ubuntu (updated) and now i can't get running my wireless card (Broadcom 4312 rev2) and my second problem is that i can't play any video (using kaffeine mostly).
[00:21] <oboy03> oh yeah
[00:21] <Pelo> DB42, nvm  the dvd has all the pacakges on it to install k x and e ubuntu,   but it 's made to isntall u by default,  just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop or ... for theothers , shose from the login which you want
[00:21] <hellonull> kasimir: my guess would be that you have to edit the xorg.conf and add in your resolution
[00:21] <kasimir> hellonull: okay, thanks, I'll try that
[00:21] <oboy03> tnx Cpudan80 i was having problem with extra CD
[00:21] <DB42> Pelo: does the dvd have both 32 and 64 and server varients ?
[00:21] <matthias> bagelong:  yes and space followed by an dot
[00:22] <oboy03> i'll download now, i already have the live CD
[00:22] <letynsoft> can anyone help?
[00:22] <dupin> I want my old nick back.How can I do that?
[00:22] <crc32> If you can't find a file thats supposed to be included in a package how do I go about finding out what package provides the file?\
[00:22] <androver> crc32: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[00:22] <unop> crc32, dpkg -S filename   or better  dpkg -S /path/to/filename  - or use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:22] <Pelo> gnomefreak, depends on the one,  I dled  alt cd and live cd at the same time in under 2hrs, dvd took me 5 on it's own
[00:22] <Pelo> DB42, no ,
[00:22] <InfernoX222> androver: well for starters i try the 'sudo modprobe pciehp pciehp_force=1 ' command explained here 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ExpressCard' but get no output what so ever... dunno if that is normal or not
[00:22] <gnomefreak> dupin: on freeenode your best bet is to go to #freenode
[00:22] <Jambon> how do i install 8.04 with xfs. The install gets stuck at 94% on grub and never finishes. It warns me about grub hanging, but I don't know what to do. Is there an option for lilo at the start of the installation process?
[00:22] <hellonull> kasimir: np. that's the extent of my graphics knowledge, if that doesn't work then i'm afraid i can't be of anymore help :\.
[00:22] <matthias> bagelong:  mv /home/longfamily/Desktop/Dell_multi-device_A17_R174291.exe .
[00:22] <gnomefreak> Pelo: thats not bad as long as your not on a t1-3 connection
[00:22] <androver> InfernoX222: no output from modprobe is good news
[00:22] <matthias> bagelong:  i suppose you are in the directory wireless
[00:22] <digital_poet> Hello folks, quick question if I may... can you install ubuntu using the standard livecd version?
[00:23] <Pelo> gnomefreak,  4mb/100k
[00:23] <pr4bh> guys is there any way i can install windows from just the iso (my cd drive wont work) from within ubuntu? maybe getting grub to load the iso somehow? any help would be appreciated..
[00:23] <bagelong> matthias:  done
[00:23] <Pelo> gnomefreak, dsl
[00:23] <Stormx2> digital_poet: Yes.
[00:23] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: The nv driver install failed... I installed and used the nVidia driver for a while, and I restarted, and nothing.
[00:23] <Abd67> letynsoft you have a PM
[00:23] <bagelong> matthias:  I guess.  How would I know?
[00:23] <Stormx2> digital_poet: That's the recommended way of installing it ;)
[00:23] <DB42> Pelo: does the dvd have the server varient as well ? or only the desktop oens ?
[00:23] <crc32> unop: dpkg -S would requires me to install the unknown package first before it can find the file I'm looking for. IE I can't install every package to find the file.
[00:23] <matthias> bagelong:  okey now need to extract the exe file ...
[00:23] <matthias> do ls
[00:23] <unop> crc32, no, dpkg -S does not require a package be installed
[00:23] <matthias> bagelong: can you see the file there and you are in wireless right ...
[00:24] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: you need to change the driver line in the xorg file, try using vesa to use the GUI configure for X
[00:24] <androver> pr4bh: yeah, most virtualization programs let you mount an iso as a drive
[00:24] <digital_poet> Stormx2: Oh really? Great, so information should be in the standard installation guide?
[00:24] <InfernoX222> androver: good haha - but i cant get the wireless to show as working (currently on my built in wireless) i first tried ndiswrapper but got to a point where i was stuck there to (figured if i got that workin i might be able to change the drivers to the madwifi ones as i go along)
[00:24] <Kyle__> whats up with skype?
[00:24] <Pelo> DB42, the dvd constains all the packages in the main and restricted repositories,  the installer on the dvd is for ubuntu ,
[00:24] <ksylvia1> Hi, I'm trying to get compiz running on a freshly installed hardy; Im using a laptop with an ati RV250 firegl mobility 9000 gfx card; it worked fine in gutsy using the xorg-drivers-ati, but I'm having trouble pointing xorg in the right direction (and reconfigure xserver doesn't ask for display options)
[00:24] <bagelong> matthias:   I thinks it worked.
[00:24] <ProGzZz> hi
[00:24] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: Vesa?
[00:24] <unop> crc32, it'll try and find out which package a file is part of even if the package is not installed, but it doesn't always succeed .. when it doesn't use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:24] <pr4bh> androver: yes, i tried but the setup.exe wouldnt complete using wine
[00:24] <Stormx2> digital_poet: The installation is fairly straight forward, but if you need help, there are guides available. try "/msg ubotu install" from here to get links.
[00:24] <ProGzZz> is there any way to play C&C Generals on ubuntu ?
[00:24] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: yes it should be a fail safe driver
[00:24] <crc32> unop: dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
[00:24] <crc32>                   Search for a filename from installed packages.
[00:24] <bagelong> matthias: here is what my terminal has: longfamily@longfamily-dell:~$
[00:25] <matthias> bagelong: if you see the file than we are doing okey so far ...
[00:25] <androver> InfernoX222: honestly i'm not very good at that stuff.  does the card show up under "ifconfig"?  does it show up under "lspci"?
[00:25] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: should be installed by default but not set up to use it
[00:25] <DB42> Pelo: thanks
[00:25] <Pelo> DB42, you can install all the other stuff from the other repos from the dvd after hyou hve installed ubuntu,  but you only get the ubuntu-desktop installer  from the boot
[00:25] <Stormx2> crc32: You need to give it a filename afterward.
[00:25] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: How do I use it?
[00:25] <DB42> btw, is there an ubuntu server channel ?
[00:25] <bagelong> matthias: nothing about wireless as a file that I am in, but something did happen when i put ls
[00:25] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: you only have tesxt right now?
[00:25] <kasimir> hellonull: okay, I made the changes.  I'll restart X, and thanks for you help!!
[00:25] <gnomefreak> text*
[00:25] <InfernoX222> androver: i will check, if you cant help that is fine i will finish my nvidia drivers and come back to find a new victim haha
[00:25] <kasimir> hellonull: hopefully this will work :)
[00:25] <Pelo> DB42, the server cd is just an instll with no head and lamp by default
[00:25] <CypherX1389> Yes.
[00:25] <matthias> the file is still in the desktop ?
[00:25] <androver> pr4bh: what i'm suggesting is that you run winodws in a virtual environment like vmware or virtualbox
[00:25] <Some_Person> !wine | ProGzZz
[00:25] <ubotu> ProGzZz: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:25] <DB42> if i want a simple wiki / file sharing / svn machine does it really matter if it's ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-server ?
[00:26] <androver> InfernoX222: cool good luck :)
[00:26] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.config and replace the driver name with vesa
[00:26] <Havnfun> Is FAT32 best way to move files between windows and Ubuntu?
[00:26] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: its under device it hink
[00:26] <Gerinych> alright another question
[00:26] <unop> DB42, it shouldnt matter, as long as all the packages supporting the application are installed
[00:26] <gnomefreak> think
[00:26] <crc32> umm that was a man page quote showing that dpkg -S can only search for file files that in already installed packages.
[00:26] <matthias> bagelong:  this is something basic with movement of files that faild ...
[00:26] <bagelong> matthias:  When I go to place -> homefolder, it is there
[00:26] <Pelo> DB42, you c an remove the desktop stuff aftet the install and instal the sever packages you need ,  it doesn't realy mattter, it'sthe same bones
[00:26] <Gerinych> how do you dualboot ubuntu and vista with vista installed first
[00:26] <digital_poet> Stormx2: Thanks, I will take a look. Its not for me, but I am helping a friend install onto a virtualbox config so having all the usual problems with remote IT support :)
[00:26] <pr4bh> androver: hmm, but i cant actually INSTALL windows that way can i?
[00:26] <Some_Person> ProGzZz: you might be better off running windows in a vm
[00:27] <androver> pr4bh: yup, you definitely can!  http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2007/05/07/installing-virtualbox-and-windows-using-virtualbox-in-ubuntu/
[00:27] <MauL^> In the repository there is only imagemagick <IP_ADDRESS> but I need 6.3 or 6.4. what can I do?
[00:27] <Some_Person> !vm | ProGzZz
[00:27] <ubotu> ProGzZz: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[00:27] <matthias> bagelong:  okey do unzip dell file ...
[00:27] <NeT_DeMoN> Gerinych, just stick in the live CD
[00:27] <Stormx2> digital_poet: That's always a bummer.
[00:27] <matthias> bagelong:  you do this in ubuntu right ?
[00:27] <Gerinych> NeT_DeMoN: yeah, so?
[00:27] <InfernoX222> androver: this is the output form the ifconfig command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64611/
[00:27] <PorkSoda> Using mIRC is futile,,, I'll kill you
[00:27] <crc32> and crrptmount-setup is not in it. :| Some one screwed up.
[00:27] <pr4bh> androver: oh cheers!!
[00:27] <ProGzZz> thanks ubotu and Some_Person
[00:27] <dupin> hi
[00:27] <NeT_DeMoN> Gerinych, it will partition your hard drive for you without you loosing your files
[00:27] <bagelong> matthias: yes.  the terminal code is unzip dell file?
[00:27] <unop> crc32, in my experience a package does not need to be installed, i've found it to work otherwise (but not always) -- but as i said, it does not always succeed and when it doesn't use packages.ubuntu.com
[00:27] <DB42> if i want a simple wiki / file sharing / svn machine does it really matter if it's ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-server ?
[00:27] <Gerinych> no
[00:27] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: I just got an idea. I used the nVidia configuration manager to overwrite my xorg.conf file. I made a backup a while ago... I'm going to try copying that backup over the original to fix it before I do this. Kay?
[00:28] <Mindaxiz> what firewall and AV are people using here? something like comodo + not23 here in ubuntu?
[00:28] <androver> InfernoX222: it looks like it's working there!  wlan0 is your wireless card.
[00:28] <unop> DB42, are you reading what people are saying to you?
[00:28] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: ok that should help
[00:28] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: i have to go big issues here
[00:28] <Jambon> grub on xfs anyone?
[00:28] <DB42> opss, sorry, missed it !
[00:28] <bagelong> matthias:  I am sorry,  I am really just ignorant of much of the terminal terminology.
[00:28] <DB42> my bad, thanks allot !
[00:28] <SeaPhor> I have fresh installed 8.04, can someone help me start from scratch my wireless card is not working, I have lspci,lshw -C network, iwconfig, and dmesg all at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64607/
[00:28] <Gerinych> NeT_DeMoN: I screwed up my vista bootloader by installing xp and im trying to restore it using ubuntu
[00:28] <InfernoX222> androver: i have 2 wireless cards though one is internal (intel) and the other an ExpressCard...
[00:28] <Angel-SL> hey guys
[00:29] <Angel-SL> i installed the java6 JRE
[00:29] <NeT_DeMoN> Gerinych, your trying to restore vista with your live CD?
[00:29] <crc32> http://pastebin.com/m2f19ed70 <-- cryptmount-setup is not there even though http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=cryptmount-setup&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any says it is
[00:29] <Angel-SL> i need to find out where to install a plugin
[00:29] <matthias> bagelong:  unzip than follow the name of the windows drivers name ending with .exe
[00:29] <crc32> this is gutsy
[00:29] <Gerinych> NeT_DeMoN: no, i installed ubuntu already
[00:29] <CypherX1389> gnomefreak: Thanks a bunch for all your help.
[00:29] <pr4bh> androver: just one more question (sorry for being such an ass btw): using virtualbox, would i be able to dualboot into windows as well via grub menu?
[00:29] <gnomefreak> CypherX1389: yw
[00:29] <MrGnu> Greetings all, I am now in the Hardy ZONE WOOT
[00:29] <androver> InfernoX222: gotcha.  ok, so the expresscard isn't showing up there.  take it out, then put it back in, wait a few seconds, then type "dmesg" and paste a few screens from the bottom into a pastebin.
[00:29] <NeT_DeMoN> Gerinych, explain to me with more details on what your trying to do
[00:30] <androver> pr4bh: nope, you'd have to run ubuntu first, then open up virtualbox, and run windows from within it.
[00:30] <Angel-SL> hi. I installed the java6 JRE using synaptic; where would i install a plugin?
[00:30] <androver> pr4bh: there are ways around that, but it's complicated :)
[00:30] <dupin> It look like everything is O.K. now
[00:31] <IndyGunFreak> Angel-SL: thejava6 plugin is in synaptic also
[00:31] <matthias> bagelong:  wit h the tab key you can do a lot ...
[00:31] <Jambon> can anyone tell me what to do about grub and xfs?
[00:31] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: have you had your wireless card working on the computer in any other OS or in a previous version of Ubuntu?
[00:31] <pr4bh> androver: if you can point me to any good links, id appreciate?
[00:31] <bagelong> matthias:  I know have this file extracted to the desktop: bcmwl5.inf
[00:31] <Gerinych> NeT_DeMoN: i installed xp along with vista but the xp bootloader got screwed up and i am trying to fix the vista bootloader with ubuntu somehow
[00:31] <bagelong> matthias:  This is the driver file.  by the way, it is the same file I have already tried to use.
[00:31] <IndyGunFreak> Gerinych: lol, good luck w/ that.. boot a boot disk and run fixmbr and that should do it.
[00:31] <Kranklin> Hey guys, i have a problem (bug?). I just installed Ubuntu 8.04. Everything works except when i leave my computer for a while, when i come back, the screen is black and the only way I can fix it is by pressing ctrl+alt+f2 and then ctrl+alt+f7 or buy pressing ctrl+shift+backspace. also, when i normally go to another console with ctrl+alt+f*, the screen goes black and i see blue lines go down the screen, and the screen gets brighter and bright
[00:32] <androver> pr4bh: well, the trick for you would be getting windows installed without a dvd drive.  that's not really an ubuntu problem; it's just a general "installing windows" problem.  is there no way you could just borrow an external DVD drive or something?
[00:32] <matthias> bagelong:  okey the extraction worked ?
[00:32] <InfernoX222> androver: how far from the bottem? start at a wan0 or where it mentions ndiswrapper?
[00:32] <androver> InfernoX222: hard to say, paste as much as you think matters
[00:32] <david_-_->  here is what i get after removing wine and reinstalling it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64600/   then i did dmesg in the term after the errors and this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64601/
[00:32] <androver> InfernoX222: the more the better in general
[00:32] <Darkchef> hey dudes, this is such a noob question but im just trying to install some aMSN Skins and i need some terminal help. basically i want to copy a directory ....
[00:32] <bagelong> matthias:  I just used the archive manager
[00:32] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes, on my winXP partition, but has never worked in 7.04, 7.10, and now i just installed (NOT upgraded) to 8.04. i have been trying with 7.10 for 5 months now
[00:33] <pr4bh> androver: not where i am at mate :( i read somewhere about grub loading the extracted isos? is that the right direction?
[00:33] <crc32> can some one point me to notes on migrateing to 8.04?
[00:33] <Darkchef> i typed this but it disagreed with me for some reason .... "sudo cp -r ./WinMSN7/ /usr/share/amsn/skins/"
[00:33] <Darkchef> "
[00:33] <matthias> bagelong:  okey that is okey now hold on let me see where to enter it again , this is the windows version that worked for me as well, let me see, we are comming to and ned ...
[00:33] <androver> pr4bh: i've looked into that; i really don't think it's possible :(
[00:33] <crc32> or do I need to reinstall now? :|
[00:33] <pr4bh> androver: ah ok :( stuck with ubuntu then! :s
[00:34] <androver> Darkchef: what's the problem with that command?
[00:34] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: OK, start by going to http://linux-wless.passys.nl/  and see if your card is compatible with Linux, otherwise you have to use ndiswrapper.
[00:34] <androver> pr4bh: ah well, not so bad :)
[00:34] <matthias> bagelong:  go system->administration->windows wireless driver
[00:34] <crc32> can I migrate from 7.1 to 8.04 with out a reinstall?
[00:34] <fatespeaks> Mouse died during upgrade to Hardy.  Probably something with my xorg.conf.  I reference the mouse by Driver "evdev"    Option "Name" "Logitech Optical USB Mouse"     Any tips?
[00:34] <jaggz-> How do I fix packages which I broke by manually getting and force-installing newer versions?    python2.4-gdbm: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.1-0ubuntu0.2) but 2.4.1-ubuntu0 is to be installed
[00:34] <androver> crc32: yeah but you have to go through gutsy to get there
[00:34] <pr4bh> androver: ive been using it for past 3 years, i want some change, for better or worse i dont care lol
[00:34] <Darkchef> androver : i dont know jus seems to be in an infinite loop, it jus doesnt return anyhting
[00:34] <spatry> HI.
[00:34] <navetz> can anyone please help me set up a mail server that will work with php mail();
[00:34] <Pelo> jaggz-, check in synaptic  the buttons on the bottom lefs categories I think
[00:34] <spatry> Anyone have any the problem where the can see GDM but login yields brownish screen...
[00:35] <Ntemis> hello
[00:35] <spatry> blank screen
[00:35] <spatry> ?
[00:35] <InfernoX222> androver: from the top to the bottom... max of my term window http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64612/
[00:35] <Kranklin> sparty: me too
[00:35] <Ntemis> i need soem help please with via unichrome
[00:35] <Kranklin> sparty: oh, actually not quite
[00:35] <InfernoX222> androver: im not sure how to translate it so u get it all :P
[00:35] <Ntemis> i cannot see any video and test on hardy shows nothing
[00:35] <mikebot> Or rather, does anyone know why when I right-click and press `re-index' on tracker, it just disappears?
[00:35] <T1m0thy> Is there a workaround for the Intel 3945 going out every once in a while?
[00:35] <Darkchef> im only trying to install some amsn skins , why is it so difficult!!!!!!
[00:35] <crc32> androver: I am useing gutsy now so is there documentation for migrating?
[00:35] <bagelong> matthias:  I opened it, tried to add new driver and it says invalid driver.
[00:36] <Drod> in hardy, can I remove firefox 3 and get back to firefox 2?
[00:36] <androver> InfernoX222: no, that's good, it says what's wrong...you're trying to use a non-64-bit windows driver for your card.
[00:36] <Ntemis> hardware testing option i see green only
[00:36] <Angel-SL> erm, how do I get ls to output permissions in octal?
[00:36] <androver> crc32: update manager should have a button at the top to upgrade to hardy
[00:36] <pr4bh> alright thanks for ur help androver :)
[00:36] <androver> pr4bh: no prob good luck :)
[00:36] <matthias> bagelong:  you need to delete the old one and install the new one ...
[00:36] <Angel-SL> anyone
[00:36] <InfernoX222> androver: ok... so get teh 64-bit windows driver for the card to get the card working then try to find a way to get madwifi to replace those drivers?
[00:37] <bagelong> matthias:  I did, that's when it said invalid driver.  Before it just said no hardware present for the driver
[00:37] <androver> InfernoX222: yeah, that sounds good
[00:37] <Angel-SL> erm, how do I get ls to output permissions in octal?
[00:37] <gijake> i installed hardy with wubi, and it worked for the first few start ups, but now gnome doesn't load, and it wont let me login.  this has happened already, and i just reinstalled it, but now that isn't an option because i have important files in the ubuntu file system
[00:37] <Pelo> !helpersnack | matthias
[00:37] <ubotu> matthias: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[00:37] <Ntemis> Drod:disable all plugins so they dont pass onto ffx2 and synaptic remove,synaptic install ffx2
[00:37] <InfernoX222> androver: thank you so much for your help :)
[00:37] <matthias> bagelong:  that never happened to me, sorry i do not know whay it says so _, should have accepted it ...
[00:38] <androver> InfernoX222: no problem, good luck!
[00:38] <unop> Angel-SL, i don't think ls can do that -- but you can use stat,   stat -c "%a %n" *
[00:38] <Twim4> hi all
[00:38] <bagelong> matthias:  If Josh04 is around, do you mind if I enlist his help?
[00:38] <Pelo> gijake, what have you done between the last time it worked and now ?
[00:38] <crc32> I don't see a "upgrade button" wtf? Whats it look like?
[00:38] <Drod> Ntemis, so the sudo apt-get remove firefox-3; sudo apt-get install firefox 2...sould not be enough?
[00:38] <dupin> Twim4 :ask
[00:38] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  all in yellows
[00:38] <matthias> thank you, well i do my best after all we all depends on each other ...
[00:38] <Ntemis> drod:no
[00:38] <gijake> crc32: nothing.
[00:38] <Ntemis> then ffx 2 will not get any add-ons
[00:38] <matthias> that is okey ...
[00:39] <Pelo> matthias, just take the cookie , no need to play gracious
[00:39] <bagelong> matthias:  Thanks so much for your help.
[00:39] <crc32> gijake: So how do I upgrade then?
[00:39] <Twim4> i upgraded today my ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 and have no inet connection
[00:39] <Ntemis> like foxmarks ;)
[00:39] <Darkchef> so ... anyone use aMSN here???
[00:39] <cvp173> Estoy tratando de calibrar la resolución del monitor en Ubuntu 8.04 y solo me permite Resolution 800x600, 56 Hz. y Rotation: normal y se vé demasiado grande.  Quiero achicar los iconos y letras.
[00:39] <panfist> hey, if anyone could please help me about how to execute a script on many items, the usage of the script is "script_name.pl base-directory list-of-files list-of-modified-files...i would like to somehow insert the list-of-files and automatically generate names for list-of-modified-files
[00:39] <matthias> bagelong:  let me know how it goes ...
[00:39] <gijake> crc32: what?
[00:39] <bagelong> josh04:  are you still in the building?
[00:39] <Pelo> !es | cvp173
[00:39] <ubotu> cvp173: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:39] <bagelong> Matthias:  will do.
[00:39] <Abd67> cvp173 habla en ingles
[00:39] <crc32> gijake: forget it.
[00:39] <azuki> Darkchef: NOOOOOO
[00:39] <azuki> ::)
[00:39] <cvp173> Gracias
[00:39] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: When you say you tried getting your wifi card working before in Ubuntu, how were you doing it? Did you use ndiswrapper at any point?
[00:40] <matthias> bagelong:  there is another thing but i am not sure what is it for ...
[00:40] <Darkchef> azuki : wtfffffff????
[00:40] <bagelong> matthias:  What's that
[00:40] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  i dont mind ndiswrapper if thats what i have to do, i have been at this awhile and have installed and configured more stuff just to not work, thats why i decided on a fresh install of 8.04
[00:40] <Drod> Ntemis, sorry for insiting...in my case, I want to keep the same addons, actually I did not added anything from 2 to 3, should I still disable them? I mean, I want them to be transferred..
[00:40] <azuki> Darkchef: I like pidgin
[00:40] <Twim4> anybody help?
[00:40] <Darkchef> azuki : well can you work the terminal well enough
[00:40] <matthias> bagelong:  system->administration->hardware testing
[00:40] <azuki> Darkchef: well enough for what?..
[00:40] <Ntemis> you dont install addons or themes on ffx 2?
[00:40] <fluid> Let me toss another question at your laptop people.  What do you use to control your processor with in 8.04?  To throttle your CPU?
[00:40] <androver> Twim4: no internet connection, eh?  wireless?
[00:41] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes, many times before this fresh install
[00:41] <IndyGunFreak> is build essential on the live CD?
[00:41] <Twim4> ethernet
[00:41] <bagelong> matthias:  Yeah.  I gave that a try, but it didn't give any options specific to wireless
[00:41] <Twim4> lan
[00:41] <androver> Twim4: post your ifconfig output to a pastebin
[00:41] <Pelo> fluid, in here  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty  the instrucgtions willwork
[00:41] <bad_cables> hey, are there any known issues with corrupted files in 8.04?
[00:41] <matthias> bagelong:  i do not know but you can send some kind of report on hardware but why i do not know but in thzat test my wireless showed up ...
[00:41] <Jambon> ok. before I give this second install a try, can anyone advise me on the whole xfs grub shenanigans?
[00:41] <Drod> Ntemis...well. the only thing leading me to go back to ff2 is that in ff3 I cannot get foxmarks
[00:41] <Twim4> sorry where?
[00:41] <Ntemis> :)
[00:41] <Darkchef> azuki : whats wrong with this comman "sudo cp -r ./WinMSN7/ /usr/share/amsn/skins/" im currently on the desktop where the WinMSN7 folder is that i want to copy to "/usr/share/amsn/skins/" ??? can you see anything wrong ???
[00:41] <eyyYo> Is it possible to make shred the default eraser when deleting a file using Shift+Del?
[00:41] <androver> !pastebin | Twim4
[00:41] <ubotu> Twim4: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:41] <Drod> Ntemis, I have spent many days and nights collecting my bookmarks
[00:41] <Pelo> later
[00:42] <dupin> 	IndyGunFreak : i don´t know for sure,but it should be
[00:42] <Ntemis> you wont getting any foxmarks if you dont remove the addons that came with ffx 3!!
[00:42] <bad_cables> i downloaded 8.04 and every DVD that i burn sais that packages are corrupt
[00:42] <Twim4> oke just a min  please
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> dupin: hm, ok
[00:42] <androver> bad_cables: burn at slower speed
[00:42] <Ntemis> they will be tranfered to 2 and break it
[00:42] <Ntemis> because they are INCOMPATIBLE ;)
[00:42] <Drod> Ntemis, ok I will try now...thanks
[00:42] <panfist> is there a way i can add a console command to the nautilus context menu?
[00:43] <TheManicKY> Is there much difference between the DVD iso and the CDROM iso? I mean what is more recommended for new users?
[00:43] <bad_cables> androver: are you sure?
[00:43] <Ntemis> np
[00:43] <Twim4> m....sory i cann't do that because it is on other pc
[00:43] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: OK, I can only help you with ndiswrapper because that's how I had to install mine. If your card is considered "yellow" I'm not sure if you can get Ubuntu to work directly with it. Do you want to try ndiswrapper or maybe someone else will offer their help...
[00:43] <cvp173> The Monitor Resolution Settings on Ubuntu 8.04 allow me to have 800 x 600 resolution and icons and fonts are too big. (cloned output).  ¿How I can get smaller images?
[00:43] <androver> bad_cables: nope, but it's happened to me before and burning slower fixed it
[00:43] <Twim4> androver, m....sory i cann't do that because it is on other pc
[00:43] <dupin> bad_cables : download DVD with torrent and point download to the folder with existing iso.Torrent will just check for corrupted files.
[00:43] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes please
[00:43] <Twim4> i become all interfaces
[00:43] <zcat[1]> every time I burn a DVD, it seems the md5sum is 'wrong' (k3b disk check fails, md5sum /dev/cdrom is different) .. but the md5sum is consistent for every copy I burn and the disk-self test says there is nothing wrong. Is this normal? Is it a bug?
[00:43] <matthias> TheManicKY:  dvd iso is for dat upto 4.7Gb and an CD ISO is for data upto 700 Mb
[00:44] <Ntemis> so what will happen to me? will anyone give me an advice on my problem?
[00:44] <androver> Twim4: oh, right, that makes sense.  what connections show up under ifconfig, though?  does eth0 show up?
[00:44] <azuki> Darkchef: what error do you get?
[00:44] <Laser88> TheManicKY: the DVD has more packages which u have to download when u use the CD
[00:44] <androver> Ntemis: we are not fortune tellers.  we cannot predict the future.
[00:44] <Twim4> yeah eth0 eth1 eth1:avahi lo
[00:44] <matthias> TheManicKY:  an ISO is an Idential copy from the source ..
[00:44] <Jambon> has anyone else run into the whole xfs grub issue?
[00:44] <androver> Twim4: do you have two ethernet ports?
[00:44] <Ntemis> androver: i see
[00:44] <Darkchef> azuki : well thats the thing it does return me with anything , the cursor just flashes
[00:44] <zcat[1]> DOES the DVD actually have more packages? Or does it just have all three CDs on one disk?
[00:44] <Ntemis> i have problem with my via unichrome pro card
[00:44] <LainIwakura> Hello. I'm trying to install a font manually, and the tutorial now suggests to add a font path in "/etc/X11/XF86Config config
[00:44] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: OK, first off, do you have the Win XP driver for it? It should be a .inf file.
[00:44] <Twim4> androver, yes, but eth1 is enabled
[00:44] <jaggz-> pelo, k
[00:44] <Ntemis> i cannot play anything
[00:45] <unop> zcat[1], better to create an ISO from /dev/cdrom with dd and then use md5sum on that iso
[00:45] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes
[00:45] <azuki> Darkchef: so it doesn't do anything?
[00:45] <Twim4> i mean the cable is in it
[00:45] <LainIwakura> Hello. I'm trying to install a font manually, and the tutorial now suggests to add a font path in "/etc/X11/XF86Config config" but I do not have that file or directory. I cannot find any XF86 directory or file. How do I add a font path then? Thanks.
[00:45] <fluid> Pelo; my processor is not listed.  I have the Turion.. it's not in that list for AMD's.
[00:45] <androver> Twim4: does eth0 work?  why do you have two ethernet cards?
[00:45] <zero> hey, i have both of my monitors working in ubuntu, i have one laptop screen plus a crt monitor, how do i get the crt to be better than 640 480 and independent?
[00:45] <Ntemis> i have a green screen and my system freeze up until i close the application
[00:45] <dupin> zcat[1] : find md5sum for DVD and run  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[00:45] <zcat[1]> unop: how would that be any different?
[00:45] <Ntemis> openchrome is installed on hardy
[00:45] <Kyle__> oh hey skype wont work because alsa wont work
[00:45] <Laser88> zcat[1]: the DVD has more packages
[00:45] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes and the .sys file as well
[00:45] <Twim4> androver the cable is in eth1 slot
[00:45] <zero> anyone know about dual monitors?
[00:46] <zcat[1]> Laser88: I always wondered that.. I don't seem to get any more options from a DVD install
[00:46] <LainIwakura> !dualhead | zero
[00:46] <ubotu> zero: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:46] <xizorbg> Anyone know how to fix a broken alacarte
[00:46] <isuka_> Good evening. I was wondering if anyone could help me configure a synaptics touchpad, or lead me to some documentation on doing so? I'm having trouble with the calibration of the device. In windows, the left 80% of the pad is used for movement, and the right 20% is for scrolling.
[00:46] <Ntemis> but as i run system hardware check that came with hardy i have also green screen thwere is says something like must show bars
[00:46] <Twim4> androver the other one has no connection to inet(router)
[00:46] <Darkchef> azuki - yeah thats correct
[00:46] <androver> Twim4: if you put it in eth0 does it work?  if so, it'd be easier if you were able to get on the net using eth0 and then we can diagnose using copy/paste
[00:46] <Darkchef> i had to  break it with ctrl + c
[00:46] <unop> zcat[1], some software adds zero-padding to the ISO when burning it, so when you md5sum the device, you get a different result
[00:46] <Ntemis> is that enough for you so you wont end up a fortune teller?
[00:46] <Ntemis> :)
[00:46] <xizorbg> Broken alacarte anyone?
[00:46] <fluid> Let me toss another question at your laptop people.  What do you use to control your processor with in 8.04?  To throttle your CPU?   I'd prefere a GUI app, like for 7.10 there was an Applet you could add.. for kubuntu, there's a power manager, too.
[00:46] <djlenoir> I set up Ubuntu 8.04 on the first of four hdds in my computer. Two drives are SATA (hda, hdb) and the other two are PATA (hdc, hdd). No other OS, all drives cleanly formatted, I install Ubuntu on hda1. When I boot, I immediately get "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 22". If I disconnect the two PATA drives from the system it boots fine. Reconnect them and the error appears again. How can I resolve this issue with GRUB recognizing my
[00:46] <Laser88> zcat[1]: not more options, but u can install more packages from the DVD without internet
[00:46] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes and the linux drivers for rtl8185 as well
[00:46] <azuki> Darkchef: normally the SUDO command should ask for your password.. and after that it will start copying your files.. this could take a while (obviously) depending on the size ...
[00:47] <androver> Ntemis: it might be enough for someone but i have no idea about unichrome pro cards :(
[00:47] <azuki> Darkchef: did it ask for the password?
[00:47] <Twim4> androver, it works for me in the morning and after the dist upgrade it doesnt work anymore
[00:47] <zcat[1]> unop: ahhh, that makes sense.. but why would k3b do that and then fail on it's own self-check of the disk immediately after.. surely that is a bug!
[00:47] <Darkchef> azuki - ok , well it never asked for the pass
[00:47] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: you say it has linux drivers that came with it?
[00:47] <Ntemis> probably me also ;)
[00:47] <azuki> Darkchef: but it works usually?
[00:47] <androver> Twim4: I'm sorry, I'm still kind of confused.  neither eth0 nor eth1 work?
[00:47] <Ntemis> shall i install the other driver instwead of openchrome
[00:47] <Ntemis> ?
[00:48] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  no, i downloaded them from their website
[00:48] <LoganHoup> can someone help me please? For some reason when I try to sudo apt-get update I get the following error:
[00:48] <unop> zcat[1], i dunno, i have't used k3b or understand what exactly it does, so i can't really say
[00:48] <LoganHoup>  Type 'echo' is not known on line 82 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:48] <Twim4> androver, eth1 was working in the morning =)
[00:48] <Darkchef> azuki - no i dont know what im doing
[00:48] <nick_> anyoneknow a program for plotting graphs and finding areas and all that somethhing like kplot that dos areas
[00:48] <androver> Twim4: ok and eth0 never worked?
[00:48] <Darkchef> azuki - "cp: cannot stat `/WinMSN7/': No such file or directory"
[00:48] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: have you previously tried to install your card with the linux drivers and it didn't work?
[00:48] <azuki> Darkchef: well.. you typed in the right command, tho, If I where you I'd check whether the directories exist
[00:48] <Jambon> could someone PLEASE help me with using xfs. The installer keeps warning me about it not playing nice with grub, and in my first attempt i got to 94% before it simply hung there trying to install grub and failing. The bug reports say this isn't going to be fixed, and I can't find an option to use lilo like the installer suggests, so I really don't know what I should do.
[00:48] <Twim4> androver, it is not connected
[00:48] <androver> Twim4: connect it and see if it works :)
[00:48] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  rtl8185_linux_26.1027.0823.2007
[00:48] <unop> LoganHoup, use the !pastebin (do not paste in here)  and show us the contents of your sources.list
[00:49] <LoganHoup> ok
[00:49] <Twim4> androver, mkey
[00:49] <david_-_-> i need help with this please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4805663#post4805663
[00:49] <nick_> anyoneknow a program for plotting graphs and finding areas and all that somethhing like kplot that dos areas
[00:49] <azuki> Darkchef: that sounds like you try to copy to a directory that doesn't exist.. maybe you could try using the gui?
[00:49] <Kyle__> ugh
[00:49] <Laser88> LoganHoup: What didm u do with your sources.list?
[00:49] <LainIwakura> Hello. I'm trying to install a font manually, and the tutorial now suggests to add a font path in "/etc/X11/XF86Config config" but I do not have that file or directory. I cannot find any XF86 directory or file. How do I add a font path then? Thanks.
[00:49] <Kyle__> Jambon: why xfs?
[00:49] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  yes and i dont know if i had already tried so many other things
[00:49] <fyreofchaos13> Pardon me, but my display is going all weird.
[00:49] <LoganHoup> please excuse me I'm a bit of a linux noob
[00:49] <panfist> i'm trying to make a custom command in nautilus under the "open with" dialog...how do I insert the name of the file into the custom command
[00:49] <LoganHoup> I just type !pastebin in terminal?
[00:49] <fyreofchaos13> Everything is shown shifted to the left of where it actually is...any clue how I could fix it?
[00:49] <Darkchef> azuki - i would but i need to be logged in as root to copy into the /usr/share/amsn/ directory
[00:50] <xizorbg> Anyone know how to fix alacarte that will not accept changes to the applications tab?  I have double checked permission in /home - still will not keep the changes on the checkboxes
[00:50] <Twim4> androver, it still doesnt
[00:50] <Kyle__> LoganHoup: ! is to flag the bot, it just links pastebin
[00:50] <xizorbg> Not sure if it is a permissions problem??
[00:50] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: OK, first off, do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[00:50] <Kyle__> !pastebin
[00:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:50] <androver> Twim4: i gotta go get a frosty!  sorry, try repeating your question and maybe someone else will help
[00:50] <Jambon> Kyle_: I heard it was faster, wanted to give it a try
[00:50] <akonkwa> Hello I just upgraded from dapper to Hardy, and now when I try to install vlc it says the package has no installation candidate. Any help?
[00:50] <Platyhelminth> !lol
[00:50] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:50] <Twim4> androver, allright thx
[00:50] <Jambon> Kyle__: though I'm seriously thinking of giving that up given this issue
[00:50] <unop> LoganHoup,  try this.   sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit   # then post the url it returns to you
[00:50] <Kyle__> aye
[00:50] <azuki> Darkchef: are you sure "./WinMSN7/" exists?
[00:51] <Darkchef> azuki , how do i copy as root in gui ?
[00:51] <Twim4> can anybody help me?
[00:51] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  no
[00:51] <Bynw> I've upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and when i goto the System Monitor the gui doesnt display properly its all grey and unusable. All of the other System menu items display properly. Any ideas?
[00:51] <Kyle__> Jambon: that howto is probably old which is why it suggests lilo but there is no lilo
[00:51] <LainIwakura> azuki: You should open the application with gksudo
[00:51] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  no this is fresh os install
[00:51] <fyreofchaos13> My display is being weird. Everything is shown shifted to the left of where it actually is...any clue how I could fix it?
[00:51] <InfernoX222> androver: hate to bother you again but is the ./configure command not in hardy? i try it but get (yet another) error output 'bash: ./configure: No such file or directory'
[00:51] <LainIwakura> Darkchec: Did you try opening the application with gksudo?
[00:51] <Twim4> Bynw, there is an unlock button
[00:51] <LoganHoup> ok will do thank you very much
[00:52] <Sarthor>  http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/64613/ Hi, here is my shaper file, my clint computer of ip <IP_ADDRESS> is getting only 5 kb bandwidth, if i start other downlod so that wil also reach till 5 kb, i want to get signle 256 Kbit on single thread, Help me please
[00:52] <TheManicKY> fyreofchaos13 Try a higher resolution. Your LCD monitor might now display correctly that low. Or check your refresh rate
[00:52] <unop> InfernoX222, ./configure looks for a script named configure in the current directory .. it's not a global command
[00:52] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  can some one tell mer what this means ?
[00:52] <MrGnu> !ibex
[00:52] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[00:52] <Jambon> Kyle__: so what do you suggest? Giving up xfs for ext3?
[00:52] <Darkchef> lainlwakura : the application ... im trying to copy a directory to another directory that has root only access ?? so i open nautilus with gksudo????
[00:52] <djlenoir> I set up Ubuntu 8.04 on the first of four hdds in my computer. Two drives are SATA (hda, hdb) and the other two are PATA (hdc, hdd). No other OS, all drives cleanly formatted, I install Ubuntu on hda1. When I boot, I immediately get "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 22". If I disconnect the two PATA drives from the system it boots fine. Reconnect them and the error appears again. How can I resolve this issue with GRUB not recognizin
[00:52] <fyreofchaos13> TheManicKY: I can't change the resolution, I get an error message. This issue just recently started happening.
[00:52] <evil> j #ubuntu-es
[00:52] <Laser88> InfernoX222: u have to be in the correct directory
[00:52] <InfernoX222> unop: its referenced here http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_with_terminal
[00:52] <evil> Hola.
[00:52] <Bynw> Twin4, its not greyout in that fashion. It's not being displayed properly.
[00:52] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: OK hang on...
[00:53] <SeaPhor> CJS3141,  you want to do this in #SeaPhor, where i and show more results?
[00:53] <LoganHoup> here's the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64614/
[00:53] <Twim4> hey!!! i have no inet connection on my hardy heron, can anybody help me?
[00:53] <Kyle__> Jambon: thats the easiest option, otherwise you'll have to really hammer it in, and this IRC channel really doesn't cover that stuff
[00:53] <unop> InfernoX222, i'm not sure what you mean
[00:53] <DeadCowboy> Why is my ubuntu taking snapshots of me while updrading to 8.04??????????????
[00:54] <Sarthor> DeadCowboy
[00:54] <Kyle__> Jambon: just wait for them to fix it :)
[00:54] <Twim4> Bynw, graphics driver installed?
[00:54] <wesley> how can i set cpufreq_powersave on ?
[00:54] <isdepopecath> I've got a quick question. What is the best app for ripping DVDs to back up to your hard drive that allows you to both play and burn the files?
[00:54] <DeadCowboy> yeah Sarthor?
[00:54] <azuki> Darkchef: try starting it with gksudo
[00:54] <Bynw> they should be it was an upgrade. It worked fine with 7.10
[00:54] <Laser88> LoganHoup: the line 82 definitely is wrong - delete it or uncomment it
[00:54] <unop> LoganHoup, at a terminal do this.   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   # and then delete the very last line there, save the file and then run this command.    sudo apt-get update
[00:54] <fluid> Anyone know of a program, or applet(for 8.04) that is a Notebook Power Controlling Program.. something I can set/change my processor from 800 to 1600mhz, or what not.  Like notebook hardware control?
[00:54] <iobelix> hi, can anybody tell me how i could share a reiserfs formatted external hdd between two ubuntu computers over a wireless network?
[00:54] <Sarthor>  http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/64613/ Hi, here is my shaper file, my clint computer of ip <IP_ADDRESS> is getting only 5 kb bandwidth, if i start other downlod so that wil also reach till 5 kb, i want to get signle 256 Kbit on single thread, Help me please
[00:54] <keen__> i'm running hardy and my sound is super low, anyone know how to fix it?
[00:55] <InfernoX222> unop: i am trying to install cowpatty, wireshark and other tools and the documentation says to run ./configure the make command and make install command - all 3 command give me some sort of trouble
[00:55] <william__>  keen__turn the volume up?
[00:55] <DeadCowboy> Why the hell is my upgrade Taking snapshots of me and putting them into a flash video file right now at this moment? WHY????
[00:55] <iobelix> keen_ hit alsamixer in the terminal
[00:55] <unop> InfernoX222, it means you havent changed directory to where the sources for those pacakges have been extracted to
[00:55] <iobelix> keen_ then turn the volume up
[00:55] <Laser88> InfernoX222: where did u save the packages?
[00:55] <unop> InfernoX222, did you download those source package?
[00:55] <CJS3141> SeaPhor: Yes, I joined your channel...
[00:56] <InfernoX222> i downloaded the .tar.gz files
[00:56] <unop> InfernoX222, did you extract them?
[00:56] <Kyle__> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[00:56] <Laser88> InfernoX222: and where did u save them?
[00:56] <isdepopecath> I've got a quick question. What is the best app for ripping DVDs to back up to your hard drive that allows you to both play and burn the files?
[00:56] <InfernoX222> unop: yes i did they made there own folders
[00:57] <Kyle__> whats odd is nothing is using sound at the moment
[00:57] <Jambon> Kyle__: does that mean using xfs on ubuntu is impossible for now?
[00:57] <keen__> iobelix its completely maxed
[00:57] <djlenoir> No one has any ideas on how to troubleshoot my drive issue? I don't know enough about linux to troubleshoot it myself.
[00:57] <TheManicKY> I'd just be happy the camera in your LCD is working at all. Who cares if its taking pictures of you during the install ? :)
[00:57] <Laser88> isdepopecath: choose one
[00:57] <unop> InfernoX222, ok,   so you need to do this.  cd /path/to/cowpatty_source  # then do ./configure, make, etc
[00:57] <iobelix> keen_ check the volume of the app you're using as opposed to the master volume of the computer.. silly thing but sometimes overlooked!
[00:57] <Kyle__> Jambon: i found xfs a pissoff anyways
[00:58] <Laser88> InfernoX222: then u have to go to these folders and then make configure...
[00:58] <keen__> yeah i looked, they are both maxed
[00:58] <isdepopecath> Laser88: So any app I find is going to be good?
[00:58] <panfist> where is $path defined? or what's the proper place for me to put a script so it's in the $path
[00:58] <LoganHoup> thank you unop it's updating fine now. May I ask why it did that? Did I do that?
[00:58] <unop> InfernoX222, same for wireshark, etc -- but wireshark is already available from the ubuntu repos, so you shouldnt need to compile it again
[00:58] <InfernoX222> laser88: i am in the folder trying to do the commands but in cowpatty i get the error
[00:58] <iobelix> keen_ i'm sorry, i cannot think of anything else. did you search the ubuntu forums?
[00:58] <flowbot> i can't get firefox 2 to work in hardy ... when trying to start i get this: run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-2-bin.pure. ... anyone know what the problem is?
[00:58] <keen__> iobelix figured id ask here first, but i'll take a look, thanks
[00:58] <DeadCowboy> TheManicKY yeah but.... why was it streaming those on port 8081 is the real deal...
[00:58] <Laser88> isdepopecath: every app has its pros and contras - no one is "the best"
[00:59] <unop> LoganHoup, you probably followed some instructions wrongly .. or followed wrong instruction, well, anyway, it doesnt matter now
[00:59] <Jambon> Kyle__: how so?
[00:59] <Black_Magic> Uh im hav ibg problems with polipo is i enable it in Firefox it says 504 Object not found in cache
[00:59] <InfernoX222> unop: yah i found that... didnt know it was in already haha... but any make command i run has an error at the end
[00:59] <isdepopecath> Laser88: Thank you, I'll just try them all out.
[00:59] <panfist> !path
[00:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:59] <alado2> do i have to add a repository to be able to install skype on hardy heron?
[00:59] <Lake> is there a way to configure ssh to have a minimul time between login attempts
[00:59] <LoganHoup> ok guess that means I should pay more attention to instructions lol
[00:59] <iobelix> can anybody please help me share a reiserfs external harddrive over a wireless network (both computers are linux, no windows involved)
[00:59] <LoganHoup> thanks again anyways
[00:59] <unop> InfernoX222, configure and make only work when you are in the right source directory .. are you sure you are in the right directory now?
[01:00] <cky> djlenoir: I had a look at the GRUB documentation. Error 22 is when GRUB can't find the partition to boot into. It may be because, when you have your PATA drives, GRUB got confused as to which drives are your primary drives.
[01:00] <unop> InfernoX222, what does this command give you?  pwd
[01:00] <Laser88> unop: my thoughts...
[01:00] <cky> djlenoir: Remember GRUB has a different view of drives to Linux.
[01:00] <Kyle__> Jambon: I had /home on xfs and if power went out, I'd have to manually fsck it for some reason
[01:00] <unop> Laser88, sorry?
[01:00] <towlie> im doing a fresh install of hardy with the alternate cd. is there any advantages to using jfs or reiserfs vs ext3 ?
[01:00] <rdavis> Is anyone else having trouble installing themes and/or icon sets in 8.04?
[01:00] <cky> djlenoir: I would try to help you step through it, if I can.
[01:01] <hydrogen> does flash9 work on ubuntu?
[01:01] <InfernoX222> !paste
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:01] <Laser88> unop: we think the same with the prob of inferno
[01:01] <josh04___> matthias: Did bagelong get his wireless working?
[01:01] <unop> towlie, unless you are running something missions critical, i've found it's best you stick with ext2/ext3
[01:01] <cky> rdavis: What trouble are you having? Are you installing themes using .debs or by hand? I'm about to try doing one by hand, it'll be interesting to see if I run into issues....
[01:01] <hydrogen> hmm, okay, that was a silly question
[01:01] <InfernoX222> unop: this is what i get when i type make in the cowpatty directory http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64618/
[01:01] <hydrogen> as I have flash 9
[01:01]  * hydrogen wonders why mlb.com doesn't believe him
[01:02] <mrbuntuman> anyone knows how to fix this error (ur linked kernel source doesnt match ur running version <IP_ADDRESS> vs 2.6.24-16-generic )
[01:02] <panfist> where's the proper place to put a script so it's in the $path? where's the $path defined by default? it's not in ~/.bashrc
[01:02] <unop> InfernoX222, did you run ./configure first?
[01:02] <crimsun> mrbuntuman: edit the top-level Makefile to change EXTRAVERSION as appropriate
[01:02] <djlenoir> cky, thanks. so GRUB does not recognize the drives in the same order as BIOS? maybe if I changed the menu.lst file that might help?
[01:02] <cky> panfist: It's in ~/.profile, in 8.04.
[01:02] <rdavis> cky: the normal, System/Preference/Appearance and then drag+drop the theme isn't working. It says "New Theme Installed" and then ever switched, or displays it is an available option.
[01:02] <mechdave> panfist, you can put local scripts in ~/bin
[01:02] <crimsun> mrbuntuman: (i.e., change the .3 to -16-generic)
[01:02] <panfist> mechdave and cky thank you
[01:02] <rdavis> Never switches, that is.
[01:02] <mechdave> panfist, or you can use /usr/local/bin
[01:02] <unop> InfernoX222, actually, you really ought to be following the instructions in the README/INSTALL file .. there might be any number of things you need to do before running make, it really depends on the source package
[01:03] <cky> djlenoir: That's one idea, but if you want consistent behaviour for both PATA connected and not connected, then editing menu.lst is only going to make it not work when your PATA drives are disconnected.
[01:03] <IntangibleLiquid> is there a way to install IE in Ubuntu?
[01:03] <Black_Magic> also to run Java Applets if i exit firefox i have to disable then enable java twice to get it to work
[01:03] <akonkwa> Does anyone know where I can find a Source.list file for my hardy release ?
[01:03] <danbhfive> IntangibleLiquid: yes
 how to?
[01:04] <unop> InfernoX222, and it looks like you might need to install this package too.   sudo aptitude install libssl-dev
[01:04] <danbhfive> IntangibleLiquid: IES4linux or something
[01:04] <josho> Are there any utilities I can use for XML parsing available via the shell in my vanilla hardy install?
[01:04] <josho> I want to download some files based on entries in an XML config file
[01:04] <unop> josho, the python ooxml i believe
[01:04] <absnt> Since I can't seem to figure out how to view/control my CURRENT session from another computer then can someone tell me how to copy all my startup/config/settings to the new user account i created?
[01:04] <cky> rdavis: Okay. I'll have a quick scan of the docs to see if I run into any obvious issues, but I don't usually install themes that way and can't help very much. :-(
[01:04] <akonkwa> Does anyone know where I can find a Source.list file for my hardy release ?
 thanks
[01:05] <Laser88> akonkwa: take your old sources.list and replace gutsy(?) through hardy...
[01:05] <josho> unop: I considered Perl or Python but I don't know either of them, and I want to do it purely via shell
[01:05] <unop> akonkwa, you really ought to just do this.   sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:05] <josho> Unless someone wants to hack together a python script for me?
[01:05] <uyann> where are the ubuntu installation logs located?
[01:05] <josho> absnt: cp ~/* /home/username/ ?
[01:05] <unop> josho, no what i mean is, there is a python utility called ooxml that can be used with shell scripts to deparse xml
[01:05] <mechdave> uyann, usually in /root
[01:06] <icesword> !info miranda
[01:06] <ubotu> Package miranda does not exist in hardy
[01:06] <rdavis> akonkwa: I think this is what you're talking about. It's located at: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <icesword> !info miranda-im
[01:06] <ubotu> Package miranda-im does not exist in hardy
[01:06] <chumii> hi! i have hardy beta installed and want to update to full release version.. can anyone tell me what i have to do to keep the 2.6.24-12 kernel?
[01:06] <akonkwa> thanx!
[01:06] <josho> unop: Ah, right. Sure it's called ooxml? All the results I find for that are the MS format >_>
[01:06] <mirdin76> ls
[01:06] <iobelix> can anybody please help me share a reiserfs external harddrive over a wireless network (both computers are linux, no windows involved)
[01:07] <unop> josho, quoting greybot from #bash - You can't realistically parse XML with bash or line-based tools like grep/sed/cut. Try xmlstarlet|xmlgawk|xpath or switch to another language. :)
[01:07] <mirdin76> does anyone know if there are changes in fstab that make my auto mounts not open?
[01:07] <mechdave> iobelix, try looking up nfs howto o http://tldp.org
[01:07] <Laser88> iobelix: search the wiki for nfs
[01:07] <unop> josho, xmlstarlet perhaps
[01:08] <iobelix> mechdave, laser88 thank you!
[01:08] <mirdin76> does anyone know if there are changes in fstab in Hardy upgrade that make my auto mounts not open?
[01:08] <josho> unop: Hmm... maybe I'll just do it in C =S XMLstarlet looks cool but more trouble than its worth. Anyway, thanks for your help!
[01:08] <unop> josho, are you kidding me?
[01:08] <absnt> is the ubuntu X server a XFree86 version 4 server?
[01:08] <cky> djlenoir: Reading the GRUB documentation, there is a way you can edit the menu.lst to make this work.
[01:08] <InfernoX222> unop: i ran the command just listed and it worked - retried the make command and got this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64620/ - the install file only says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64621/
[01:09] <Jambon> so someone recommend which filesystem to use? I've always used ext3, but am wondering if there are anyone noticeable advantages to the others. XFS won't install (hangs on grub install), so unless someone knows how to get around that, what about reiserfs?
[01:09] <UBUNTUJAY123> was there more people downloading ubuntu this time
[01:09] <teicah> why would I stop receiving the mailing list messages (ubuntu-users)?  My other lists keep on coming.
[01:09] <Laser88> mirdin76: perhaps changing hda to sda - don't know, made a fresh install...
[01:10] <cky> djlenoir: I'm just reading through the menu.lst file to see if there is a way to integrate it with Ubuntu's update-grub facility, so that you don't have any extra work to do when you upgrade your kernel.
[01:10] <ubuntu> Hola a todos!
[01:10] <ubuntu> Hello everyone!
[01:10] <SpAssY> hello
[01:10] <UBUNTUJAY123> hi
[01:10] <J-_> !hi | ubuntu
[01:10] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:10] <ubuntu> how r you?
[01:10] <josho> unop: Well, I don't have much scripting experience, so I might as well do it in C
[01:10] <josho> unop: I mean, I've done a bit of PHP
[01:11] <unop> InfernoX222, ok, pay attention to the error messages you get.. you see line #2 of make .. "pcap.h not found" .. that means you need to install the package that contains pcap.h  .. use http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out which package that is
[01:11]  * josho pokes ubuntu.
[01:11] <rdavis> Is anyone else having trouble installing themes and/or icon sets in 8.04?
[01:11] <Laser88> InfernoX222: configure already failed...
[01:11] <InfernoX222> unop: alright will do... sorry new to linux and seem to get trouble with ever command >.<
[01:12] <InfernoX222> laser88: configure was not recognized
[01:12] <unop> josho, really, writing parsers for html and xml is _not_ easy .. plenty of people don't understand just how hard it is,  why reinvent the wheel when there are plenty of libraries/utilities out there that do the job and do it well ?
[01:12] <InfernoX222> laser88: it hasnt been recognized in any of the files i have tired it in
[01:12] <josho> unop: Like, I'd use a C library
[01:12] <cky> djlenoir: For the record, GRUB does seem to use BIOS order for drives: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Device-syntax.html
[01:12] <josho> unop: I'm not writing a complete SGML parser
[01:12] <unop> josho, there are php xml libraries too if you prefer to use php -- just don't attempt to rewrite a parser :)
[01:12] <cky> djlenoir: But for some reason the BIOS decides to like putting PATA drives ahead of SATA drives? *shrug*
[01:12] <nickrud> unop, we'd have never had inflatables with your attitude ;)
[01:12] <josho> unop: I just want to extract the data from a particular set of tags
[01:13] <unop> josho, xmlstarlet is perfect for that :)
[01:13] <josho> unop: Heck, if I didn't expect it to increase in complexity I could just use regular expressions
[01:13] <unop> josho, err, another mistake -- using regexes to parse xml
[01:14] <Laser88> InfernoX222: cowpatty is the unpacked folder of the package?
[01:14] <Dekkard> looks like clean install is the way to go eh?
[01:14] <djlenoir> cky, I was thinking that was the problem. I am wondering if there is a way to change that. Otherwise, I guess I could try installing Ubuntu to the first PATA drive instead of the first SATA (even though the first SATA is reported first by BIOS).
[01:14] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand wat does this mean guys
[01:14] <unop> nickrud, you mean bloatware? :)
[01:15] <tokyoahead> hi guys... I just upgraded to 8.04 and now my laptop touchpad is basically broken. it seems the cursor jumps to the relative screen position each time I touch the touchboard, but its off by 50% to the top right, so I can never reach the lower-left corner... except with a usb mouse...
[01:15] <josho> unop: I'm not suggesting using regexes to parse XML, just using regexes to extract the content of a particular set of tags in a file which I've mostly written by hand and have total control over
[01:15] <brunner> how can I get information about the physical disks in my machine?
[01:15] <brunner> (it's a server, I have no GUI access)
[01:15] <teicah> df
[01:15] <unop> josho, same thing, paring xml, extracting content from xml - regexes are just not the right tools for either job.
[01:15] <Cpudan80> du -sh *
[01:15] <josho> unop: /<tagname>([^<]+)</tagname>/ -- nothing wrong with that?
[01:16] <brunner> Cpudan80: wouldn't that only show mounted disks?
[01:16] <josho> If they get the job done in one tenth of the time, I honestly couldn't care.
[01:16] <unop> josho, head to perl, and ask them what is wrong with that, they'll give you 200 good reasons why that will break.
[01:16] <Cpudan80> brunner: It shows the relative sizes of folders
[01:16] <InfernoX222> laser88: i ran a 'tar xvvofp cowpatty-2.0.tgz' which made the cowpatty folder from there i did a 'cd cowpatty' to enter the folder and proceeded to try ./configure make ect
[01:16] <josho> I'm avoiding using them because this xml file will get slightly more complicated later
[01:16] <Danikar> When I try to install XMMS from Symnaptic it says the package is list but not there. or something.
[01:16] <MachinTrucChose>  It may sound like a stupid question, but if I have Ubuntu, and I decide I want to use Konqueror (KDE file browser), will it use a bit more RAM (compared to a "pure" distro) because it will have the "QT framework" loaded at all times for Konqueror
[01:16] <Havnfun> Hi - Installed QtPatrted - When run program got following error "Could not launch menu item - Failed to execute child process "qtparted-root" (No such file or directory)" Any idea's on how to fix?
[01:16] <djlenoir> cky, I have already installed Ubuntu 5 times, what is one more time. :) I will go ahead and reinstall on hd2 instead of hd0 this time (hd2 is first PATA hdd) and see if the problem goes away.
[01:16] <josho> unop: This from the people who split their community in half over a new interpreter release.
[01:16] <Cpudan80> fdisk -l would also do it
[01:17] <alanbshepard70> I'm a bit nervous. I'm running 8.04 and browse the net with the included version of Firefox with the noscript add-on installed. I just visited a website and after I noticed a new launcher icon. While at the site I clicked nothing and did not give the site permission to run js. How in the heck did the launcher get there?
[01:17] <artint> as;l;sjdf;
[01:17] <brunner> I'm wanting to find out about unmounted disks as well
[01:17] <cky> djlenoir: Maybe. But....
[01:17] <cky> djlenoir: Are your PATA and SATA drives always always going to be plugged in?
[01:17] <Laser88> InfernoX222: /me is confused
[01:17] <Jambon> JFS, EXT3, or XFS? Anyone have an opinion?
[01:17] <cky> djlenoir: If so, I have a much better solution for you.
[01:17] <unop> josho, now you're getting personal ..
[01:17] <djlenoir> cky, yes, they are all internal. The computer is only for Ubuntu.
[01:18] <brunner> how can I tell if I have hardware RAID?
[01:18] <josho> unop: I'm trying not to, but I started out looking for a simple command line tool or anything with the tools I'm familiar with so that I can get my job done.
[01:18] <DG19075> Has anyone experienced problems with Audacity 1.3.4 not being able to open the sound device? Backing up to 1.3.3 cures the problem, though
[01:18] <djlenoir> cky, I am willing to try anything you have to suggest.
[01:18] <MachinTrucChose> djlenoir, what's the problem?
[01:18] <Havnfun> Having problem running QtParted - getting error when run program?
[01:19] <unop> josho, xmlstarlet, xpath, xmlawk, xmlgawk, etc, etc
[01:19] <Shadow420> !java
[01:19] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[01:19] <MachinTrucChose> I just joined
[01:19] <cky> djlenoir: Edit /boot/grub/device.map and change it so that (hd2) maps to /dev/sda (which is your SATA drive, right?).
[01:19] <djlenoir> MachinTrucChose, My mixed SATA/PATA hdd computer apparently throws GRUB off. Error 22.
[01:19] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  can some one tell mer what this means ?
[01:19] <cky> djlenoir: Then edit menu.lst, change the groot to (hd2,0), and run update-grub.
[01:20] <DG19075> Has anyone experienced problems with Audacity 1.3.4 not being able to open the sound device? Backing up to 1.3.3 cures the problem, though
[01:20] <josho> unop: I'm avoiding learning a new language, especially Python or Perl (fanboys...), and it just so happens regexes would do just fine at the moment. I'm actually experimenting with a PHP script at the moment, and foreach ($xml->config->network as $name) `wget http://example.com/$name`; is sufficient and good.
[01:20] <djlenoir> cky, Yes. sda is the first SATA drive that Ubuntu is currently isntalled to
[01:20] <Shadow420> djenoir it's sudo update-grub
[01:20] <cky> MachinTrucChose: djlenoir is trying to boot a system with 2 SATA drives and 2 PATA drives. GRUB has a different notion of drive order from Linux, and quite possibly the BIOS too.
[01:20] <Byan> does anyone know what the program that tells you in the notification area when the package database is in use is called
[01:20] <MachinTrucChose> djlenoir: that error happened to me before but I can't guarantee it's for the same reasons...how old is your computer?
[01:21] <arvind_khadri> Byan, update-manager
[01:21] <MrDoug> hey im having a problem installing ubuntu mabye you can help,  I got a live cd and it works and even passes the errror check, but it just will not install.  I always get an input output error
[01:21] <djlenoir> MachinTrucChose, It is an older system by today's standards. Abit A7N8X running Athlong 3200+.
[01:21] <MrDoug> btw this is 8.04 AMD64
[01:21] <cky> djlenoir: My hope is that my guess is right and GRUB is seeing your SATA drive as (hd2). In which case this should work. Fingers crossed.
[01:21] <DG19075> Has anyone experienced problems with Audacity 1.3.4 not being able to open the sound device? Backing up to 1.3.3 cures the problem, though
[01:22] <MachinTrucChose> cky: perhaps his BIOS will let him change the order of drives when booting, too
[01:22] <Byan> arvind_khadri: alright, removed =)
[01:22] <cky> MachinTrucChose: I certainly hope so, that would make life a lot simpler. :-)
[01:22] <cg91> hey i have a dell 1450 wireless usb adaptor and cant' get my internet working.. caN anyone help me? i'm using ubuntu 8.4
[01:22] <Shadow420> MrDoug what type of coumputer u have Intel Core 2 or is it an older amd64 processor
[01:22] <MrDoug> amd64
[01:22] <arvind_khadri> Byan, what did you remove???
[01:22] <CJS3141> DG19075: Yes, I've had lots of problems with Audacity 1.3.4 and had to move back to the stable 1.2.5 (or something like that) version.
[01:22] <jrabbit> I'm having issues installing ubuntu in Vmware
[01:22] <Byan> arvind_khadri: update-managere
[01:22] <djlenoir> MachinTrucChose, I will check to see what the boot order options are in bios first. brb
[01:23] <MrDoug> jrabbit: just use wubi
[01:23] <arvind_khadri> Byan, remove as in uninstall
[01:23] <Byan> arvind_khadri: .. yes
[01:23] <jrabbit> MrDoug: LOL
[01:23] <LainIwakura> Hello, can someone tell me where my files paths are stored? It's not in xorg.conf
[01:23] <hotmonkeyluv> is xmms not supported on hardy x64?
[01:23] <arvind_khadri> Byan, how did you do that??
[01:23] <jrabbit> MrDoug: I'd jsut do a proper install
[01:23] <LainIwakura> sorry i meant *FONT PATHS
[01:23] <cg91> when i check using the console, my wlan0 says that the "ESSID: off/any"
[01:23] <jrabbit> I can't seem to get the netowrking to work anyone gotten it to run?
[01:23] <Byan> arvind_khadri: sudo apt-get remove update-manager
[01:23] <cg91> when i check using the console, my wlan0 says that the "ESSID: off/any" what does this mean and how do i fix it?
[01:23] <MachinTrucChose> I know in my case after installing Ubuntu, the computer wouldn't boot even though the drive it was installed on was first in the order list. I had to put it last, and then it finally booted. Oh, Gigabyte and your buggy BIOS:/
[01:23] <arvind_khadri> Byan, ok so you want to get it back??
[01:23] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: xmms is not in hardy anymore
[01:23] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  can some one tell mer what this means ?
[01:23] <Byan> arvind_khadri: ... no.. nvm..
[01:24] <LainIwakura> When I type "xset q" it tells me that config file is in/etc/X11/xorg.conf, yet there are no font paths in that file?
[01:24] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: Do you know why not?
[01:24] <arvind_khadri> Byan, ok
[01:24] <Shadow420> MrDoug hmm I don't know that much about 64-bit the I/O error could be anything
[01:24] <cg91> can someone PLEASE help me get my networking set up? I can't use my computer until it works.. i wiped windows
[01:24] <cg91> when i check using the console, my wlan0 says that the "ESSID: off/any" what does this mean and how do i fix it?
[01:24] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: diffeerent reasons, but u can install it anyway
[01:24] <cky> LainIwakura: It sounds like some of it is built in to the X server, it seems to appear when you run strings on the X server.
[01:24] <fouad> Laser88 , I use  to love xmms ...any suggestion to replace it ?
[01:24] <cky> LainIwakura: I agree it's most odd though.
[01:24] <Havnfun> When I run a program from Alt-F2 - how can I run it as sudo - place sudo before name of program?
[01:24] <MrDoug> shadow: im downloading the alternative disc now any chance that will make a diffrence
[01:24] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: compile and all that fun stuff?
[01:25] <Shadow420> Havefun yes
[01:25] <cg91> can ANYONE help with networking?
[01:25] <cky> LainIwakura: Actually this behaviour is documented in xorg.conf(5). Heh.
[01:25] <cg91> (wireless)
[01:25] <Shadow420> MrDoug it might
[01:25] <Laser88> fouad: hotmonkeyluv: u have to add a foreign source to your sources.list
[01:25] <LainIwakura> cky: I just added some fonts in .font. Where can I add this font path permanently into the X server's XF86 file?
[01:25] <cky> LainIwakura: Namely that if there are no FontPath lines, a built-in list of defaults is used.
[01:25] <danbhfive> cg91: I can try, erm, why dont you set the essid?
[01:25] <fouad> oh I see
[01:25] <robert__> does anyone know how to make vlc the default dvd player in ubuntu hardy heron?
[01:25] <fouad> thnx
[01:25] <cg91> how do i do that danbhfive, and thank you?
[01:26] <LainIwakura> cky: But 'xset q" does list a set of font paths, or are those defaults?
[01:26] <cky> LainIwakura: Just add a section called "Files", then put FontPath lines into it.
[01:26] <cky> LainIwakura: Those are defaults.
[01:26] <LainIwakura> cky: Into xorg.conf?
[01:26] <danbhfive> cg91: iwconfig -essid xxxxxxx      I think
[01:26] <cky> LainIwakura: Yes.
[01:26] <Laser88> fouad: hotmonkeyluv: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/punischdude/ubuntu hardy main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/punischdude/ubuntu hardy main
[01:26] <MrDoug> Shadow: also, wine wont install is that just cause im using livecd or might it be somthing else
[01:26] <LainIwakura> cky: Now do I also need to include the default paths? THanks for your help.
[01:26] <cg91> i'll try that and then come back. i think itll give an error
[01:27] <cky> LainIwakura: Save your current FontPath list for reference, but I do think you need to add them in your xorg.conf too. Try and see.
[01:27] <InfernoX222> unop: i sent you a pm
[01:27] <unop> LainIwakura, you can add font paths using xset fp .. there really is no need to edit files
[01:27] <Shadow420> MrDoug or your live cd iso could have went bad during download it's possible
[01:27] <LainIwakura> unop: Isn't that just for the current session?
[01:27] <unop> InfernoX222, i dont think you are registered on freenode
[01:27] <robert__> does anyone know how to make vlc the default cd/dvd player in ubuntu hardy heron?
[01:27] <unop> !register | InfernoX222
[01:27] <ubotu> InfernoX222: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[01:27] <Arand> Is anybody able to have an ntfs partition with write permission removed for anybody but root?
[01:28] <MrDoug> shadow: ya but it passes the self check you can run when u boot it
[01:28] <unop> LainIwakura, sure, but you can but xset commands into your ~/.bash_profile so changes remain across sessions
[01:28] <cky> Arand: Yes, just add a umask option to your mount invocation.
[01:28] <Shadow420> MrDoug oh and go get wine from http://www.winehw.org
[01:28] <Arand> I've had this bug (I presume) for a while and was wondering if anybody else has it
[01:28] <cky> Arand: Such as umask=022.
[01:28] <MrDoug> shadow: thnx  ill try that
[01:28] <dark-alias> hey guyz. need help please?. I have installed 8.04 and have one problem so far. When I create a Location Launcher. and then run it i get There is no application installed for this filke type ?
[01:28] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88, Fouad: Do either of you have xmms2?
[01:28] <robert__> does anyone know how to make vlc the default cd/dvd player?
[01:28] <dark-alias> please anyone
[01:28] <Dybber> Hi, something went wrong with a browser session while watching a flashmovie and now I have a sound repeating in my ears. Is there a way to reset the sound-system except for rebooting?
[01:29] <cky> unop: It's a matter of personal preference, but I see nothing wrong with adding FontPaths to xorg.conf if it's meant to apply to all users.
[01:29] <LainIwakura> unop: Okay, thanks.
[01:29] <bigtimer121> James
[01:29] <InfernoX222> unop: this explains why i never get responces... sec
[01:29] <MrDoug> shadow: bad url did u mistype
[01:29] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: still using 1.2
[01:29] <Sp0tteh> when i install the mdadm package it appears to change somthing with my boot, as if i restart strait after installing mdadm after about 2 minutes i get dropped to a busybox shell. Anyone know how to revert what mdadm does to the boot, as i dont need raid boot supprt. thx
[01:29] <robert__> nevermind, i'll try yahoo linux chat, or myspace
[01:30] <bigtimer121> Having trouble with my wireless. i don't have a drive any advice
[01:30] <SpookyET> Upgrade failed and when I try to rerun it, I get "current dist not found in meta-release file". What metadata files do I have to modify to make it see it it as gutsy again to run the do-release-upgrade command
[01:30] <sonofthunder> hey dan
[01:30] <cg91> so i tried iwconfig wlan0 essid K6VA3 as SUDO and i didnt get an error but nothing happened.. no output
[01:30] <bigtimer121> snoof thunder: what is going on
[01:30] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: good old xmms
[01:30] <kei-clone> sup lainy
[01:30] <cg91> and when i ran iwconfig again it still said : any/none
[01:30] <kei-clone> quite chaotic here
[01:30] <Laser88> robert__: system - preferences - preferred ? (sry my ubuntu is German)
[01:30] <sonofthunder> nothing much bigtimer121
[01:30] <LainIwakura> !offtopic | grep kei-clone
[01:30] <ubotu> grep kei-clone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:30] <fouad> robert__, system-> preference -> prefered application
[01:30] <fouad> try that
[01:31] <danbhfive> cg91: is it password protected?
[01:31] <bigtimer121> Some_Guy: any advice on a wireless driver. I currently don't have a driver for it
[01:31] <cg91> yes by WEP 64 HEX
[01:31] <unop> cky, it sure is a matter of personal preference, i tend to prefer doing something that does not require you make changes to the system or things that affect all users, that way, if something should go wrong, it's easier to troubleshoot and repair being logged on as another user
[01:31] <Shadow420> MrDoug and are u installing ubuntu to a partition or a second hard
[01:31] <cg91> ive done all this in network manager GUI if that counts...
[01:31] <bigtimer121> snoof thunder: Did Nicole email you back
[01:31] <Shadow420> MrDoug Hard Drive**
[01:31] <danbhfive> cg91: you should input that info into the iwconfig command too
[01:31] <amirman84> has anyone here with a dell e1505 gotten the hibernate feature to work with hardy heron?
[01:31] <cky> unop: *nods*
[01:31] <MrDoug> shadow: second hard drive
[01:31] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: yeah - still winamp a hundred years ago :-)
[01:32] <djlenoir> MachinTrucChose, Checked my BIOS and tested changing a couple of settings. Neither worked. One was boot order for SCSI/SATA. Have it set to SATA first, then SCSI. I also tried changing boot first device from HDD-0 to HDD-2 without success.
[01:32] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: lol
[01:32] <cg91> danbhfive: do u know the syntax?
[01:32] <cky> unop: Mind you most programs use fontconfig these days and it doesn't really make a huge amount of difference. :-P
[01:32] <bigtimer121> IndyGunFreak: I have to install a wireless driver. how do i do that?
[01:32] <Shadow420> MrDoug are you running a windows install as well?
[01:32] <danbhfive> cg91: no, but iwconfig --help should tell it all to you
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: that would depend on your device
[01:32] <jon_high9000> is there a particular Antivirus program that runs well with ubuntu? I tried Clam.
[01:32] <cg91> ok thanks il try it
[01:32] <MrDoug> shadow: nope, deleted it :D
[01:32] <donkeyofdimness> clam is good
[01:32] <littlerhody> can someone help me with a wireless problem that popped up in Hardy
[01:32] <wesley> how can i enable intel speedsteps
[01:32] <donkeyofdimness> so is avast
[01:32] <bigtimer121> Broadcom 802.1
[01:33] <donkeyofdimness> avast pwns
[01:33] <bigtimer121> IndyGunFreak: broadcom
[01:33] <cky> djlenoir: Changing the boot device to HDD-2 will require you to edit menu.lst, and rerun install-grub.
[01:33] <amirman84> jon_high9000: what viruses are there for linux?
[01:33] <donkeyofdimness> there's ntfs
[01:33] <unop> !virus | amirman84
[01:33] <ubotu> amirman84: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: i have no experience w/ broadcom, other than i know its a pain
[01:33] <Shadow420> MrDoug well ok I have found a way to make a grub floppy and cd
[01:33] <donkeyofdimness> ntfs is a virus
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> !broadcom | bigtimer121
[01:33] <ubotu> bigtimer121: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:33] <littlerhody> can someone help me with a wireless problem that popped up in Hardy
[01:33] <Byan> how do I refresh the fstab?
[01:33] <MrDoug> shadow: please elaborate
[01:34] <ashbringer> I just upgraded to Hardy, but to do so I had to remove nvidia-glx-new. After the upgrade, when I tried to enable the driver again, X threw a fit about the kernel API not matching the driver. Apparently I have the kernel module for nvidia-glx-legacy, but nothing I've done seems to change that, and now I can't even get into an nv setup. Could anyone assist me?
[01:34] <unop> donkeyofdimness, that's a subjective view and doesn't really help.
[01:34] <djlenoir> cky, If you do not mind helping still, I would like to try out your idea. I have all the BIOS settings back to their original settings now. I temporarily disabled the two PATA drives in BIOS so I can boot into Ubuntu.
[01:34] <bulazeem> anyone know what i can do for my external hard drive?  it stays powered up when i shut down my pc.  the only way to turn it off is to remove the power cord and that is hard the way that my desk is :(
[01:34] <donkeyofdimness> =/
[01:34] <Laser88> littlerhody: no, i can't, but just ask
[01:34] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: what's the difference between amd64 and ia64?
[01:34] <cky> djlenoir: Sure.
[01:34] <donkeyofdimness> it does not help but it is lulz
[01:34] <bigtimer121> Indygunfreak: thanks for that encouragement, lol
[01:34] <InfernoX222> unop: did you happen to get that pm?
[01:34] <Sp0tteh> can anyone help me out with mdadm?????
[01:34] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: ia64?
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> anytime
[01:34] <donkeyofdimness> i am going to go now before I create moar off topicness
[01:34] <Dybber> Just to let you know, I got my soundproblem fixed. This helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2742327
[01:35] <jon_high9000> amirman84: i don't know. just playing it safe.
[01:35] <littlerhody> my card worked fine in Gutsy, upgraded to Hardy and it wont work.  If i try to restart networking i get this * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[01:35] <littlerhody> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: Invalid argument
[01:35] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: yeah, I saw it on the launchpad hardy homepage.
[01:35] <Shadow420> MrDoug well I have made a guide that can help create a personal grub floppy or CD without messing with the MBR
[01:35] <bigtimer121> anyone have experience with broadcom???
[01:35] <bulazeem> anyone?  :(
[01:35] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: i686?
[01:35] <cky> bigtimer121: What kind of Broadcom? BCM4311?
[01:36] <Sp0tteh> can anyone help me out with mdadm?????
[01:36] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy
[01:36] <MrDoug> shadow: sry man, but my linux experiance only goes back as far as yesterday so can you explain a little more
[01:36] <bigtimer121> cky: how do i check?
[01:36] <cky> bigtimer121: lspci
[01:36] <Shadow420> MrDoug I mainly made it for people who don't want to screw with windows being on the MBR since my windows install is the first HD
[01:37] <cky> djlenoir: Are you winning? :-)
[01:37] <shree_> Can anCan anyone help me with installing a voice chat clinet using my gmail id on KDE Hardy
[01:37] <MrDoug> shadow: so where can i get it
[01:37] <littlerhody> my card worked fine in Gutsy, upgraded to Hardy and it wont work.  If i try to restart networking i get this * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[01:37] <littlerhody> (08:35:05 PM) littlerhody: ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: Invalid argument
[01:37] <Laser88> hotmonkeyluv: sry, don't know anything bout ia
[01:37] <bigtimer121> cky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64624/
[01:37] <shane2peru> shree_, gmail has voice chat?
[01:37] <Shadow420> MrDoug so if you use windows alot and want to try linux without GRUB being in the MBR thats what I mainly made it for
[01:38] <cky> bigtimer121: Cheers.
[01:38] <shree_> shane2peru: well gtalk on windows has
[01:38] <DG19075> another Rhode ZIslander here?
[01:38] <shree_> shane2peru: that uses gmail id for login
[01:38] <hotmonkeyluv> Laser88: oh well, must not be important then ;)
[01:38] <Shadow420> MrDoug I will have to send it you but it needs to be worked on more
[01:38] <shane2peru> shree_, wow, news to me
[01:38] <MrDoug> shadow: windows is gone i pwned it with a reformat
[01:38] <littlerhody> yea one with a wireless problem lol
[01:38] <Laser88> littlerhody: what card? lspci - use pastebin
[01:38] <bigtimer121> cky: why is that, gonna be a bitch
[01:38] <cky> bigtimer121: I can't find any Broadcom anything! Is it not built into your computer?
[01:39] <navetz> can someone here help me set up postfix?
[01:39] <bigtimer121> wtf
[01:39] <djlenoir> cky: Question, should I just go ahead and swap hd0 with hd2 and hd1 with hd3 in /boot/grub/device.map?
[01:39] <MrDoug> shadow: i want every part of hardy heron installed
[01:39] <Shadow420> MrDoug and I did this while using the live CD
[01:39] <littlerhody> its a dlink dwlg630 using ndiswrapper, it has acx111 chipset
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadow420, what did you make?  I came in late..
[01:39] <DG19075> Former Coventryite here, wired, with an Audacity/update notifier problem ROFL
[01:39] <MrDoug> shadow: mabye i am misunderstanding u
[01:39] <shree_> shane2peru: Is there an application for voice chat on llinux for gmail accounts
[01:39] <cky> djlenoir: You can. The most important change to make is the groot line in your menu.lst, and to rerun update-grub afterwards.
[01:39] <shane2peru> shree_, checking now, I never knew they had it.
[01:39] <djlenoir> cky: Ok, making the chagnes
[01:40] <sonofthunder> qeustion
[01:40] <djlenoir> *changes
[01:40] <littlerhody> 03:00.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface
[01:40] <bschroed> how do you list all currently-installed packages from the command line?
[01:40] <cky> If you swap the lines in device.map you will want to rerun grub-install.
[01:40] <JDStone> why isn't Qsynaptic not in the hardy heron repos?
[01:40] <bigtimer121> cky: i don't know then
[01:40] <Shadow420> Jack_Sparrow I made a guide to make a grub floppy or cd while using a live CD
[01:40] <bigtimer121> thats weird
[01:40] <Laser88> littlerhody: sry, no dlink dwlg630 in the german wiki
[01:40] <androver> anyone here use a tiling window manager?  I want to try one and I don't know which one to try first.
[01:40] <littlerhody> i grew up in coventry too, how old are you?
[01:40] <frankg> point me a doc that shows how to get system updates
[01:40] <Starnestommy> bschroed: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[01:40] <shane2peru> shree_, it appears to work with Kopete
[01:40] <JDStone> oops!
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadow420, ok.. thanks.
[01:40] <DG19075> littlerhody:Have u tried using ndiswrapper?
[01:40] <shane2peru> shree_, see here:  http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
[01:40] <JDStone> why isn't Qsynaptic in the hardy heron repos?
[01:41] <littlerhody> i am using ndiswrapper
[01:41] <bschroed> Starnestommy: :) awesome thank you
[01:41] <phoenix_> where can i find someone from amway?
[01:41] <cky> bigtimer121: I presume you're talking about wireless here. Is your wireless on a separate card, or is it built into your computer?
[01:41] <shree_> shane2peru, the voice chat?
[01:41] <bigtimer121> cky: built in
[01:41] <DG19075> good; but what's not showing there?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > phoenix_,
[01:41] <shane2peru> shree_, be right back, yes I know that koptete should work with voice
[01:41] <littlerhody> what does this error mean ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: Invalid argument
[01:41] <androver> phoenix honestly wtf :)
[01:41] <cky> bigtimer121: Okay, can I get you to pastebin your /var/log/dmesg too?
[01:41] <bigtimer121> cky: how do i check that
[01:42] <cky> bigtimer121: cat /var/log/dmesg
[01:42] <bigtimer121> cky: in a terminal
[01:42] <Laser88> littlerhody: the German wiki says to ACX 111, that you have to deactivate the network manager
[01:42] <littlerhody> how do you do that
[01:42] <Laser88> littlerhody: and you only can use wep
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> can anyone help me get the ati driver (open source) to do an external monitor
[01:42] <cky> bigtimer121: Yep. Or open /var/log/dmesg in a text editor.
[01:43] <littlerhody> no i got it to work with WPA using ndiswrapper
[01:43] <littlerhody> in gutsy
[01:43] <DG19075> sounds like some sort of error there. I guess WPA for that casrd won't work?
[01:43] <Shadow420> MrDoug it needs to be made to look extremely simple to do plus needs to be edited to use the new iso maker in hardy
[01:43] <littlerhody> it worked in Gutsy
[01:43] <aphan9> can any help me, i am not able to see any wireless networks, but i think my network card is installed
[01:43] <aphan9> i'm using hardy heron btw
[01:43] <djlenoir> cky, Changes have been made. How do I run the grub updater please?
[01:43] <voi1> hello, anybody here?
[01:43] <Shadow420> MrDoug I originally made this using Gutsy
[01:43] <bigtimer121> cky: said no directory found
[01:44] <cky> djlenoir: sudo update-grub
[01:44] <Laser88> littlerhody: yeah, just saw it - with f**king ndiswrapper wpa should work
[01:44] <DG19075> things may be different on that with Heron, though
[01:44] <voi1> How do I install the nVidia driver without blanking my screen?
[01:44] <littlerhody> it worked with gutsy but not after the upgrade to hardy
[01:44] <cky> bigtimer121: Okay. Run "dmesg" in a terminal window, and see if you have better luck. :-)
[01:44] <aphan9> how do u install ndiswrapper?
[01:44] <littlerhody> i cant restart networking without getting that error
[01:44] <voi1> installing from the repos gives me a blank screen
[01:44] <djlenoir> cky: Ok let me run that real quick. After that I will enable the two PATA drives and see what happens.
[01:44] <voi1> have to reinstall ubuntu
[01:44] <MrDoug> shadow: i c, however im still a little unsure what this will do for me im kind of a noob :)  can you explain grub
[01:44] <Laser88> littlerhody: but noone tested it for the wiki with hardy...
[01:45] <Shadow420> aphan9 sudo apt-get install ndiswapper
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Laser88 Please dont  use ** like that thanks
[01:45] <littlerhody> yea i may have to go back to Gutsy for a while
[01:45] <littlerhody> is there a way to revert back or do i have to reinstall
[01:45] <Laser88> Jack_Sparrow: k n sry
[01:45] <DG19075> is still trying to figure out why Audcity-1.3.4 won't work
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> thnaks
[01:45] <amirman84> anybody know how to fix hibernation issues in hardy?
[01:45] <bigtimer121> cky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64625/
[01:45] <aphan9> shadow420, it says that the ndiswapper package can't be found?
[01:46] <littlerhody> aphan9 make sure your repositories are up to date
[01:46] <cky> bigtimer121: Thanks.
[01:46] <littlerhody> reload them
[01:46] <littlerhody> i had that problem too then i reloaded the repos and it found it
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get update
[01:46]  * askme help
[01:47] <artint> o god jack sparrow
[01:47] <askme> j
[01:47] <artint> another johnny depp wannabe
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > artint
[01:47] <shane2peru> shree_, after looking at it, it appears there is not google talk program that works with linux and does pc to pc calls with other google talk users.
[01:47] <Flannel> shane2peru: There are.  Many things support jingle
[01:47] <voi1> anyone know about the nVidia driver?
[01:48] <Shadow420> MrDoug well just in case u put windows back on the first HD you can create a Grub Boot Disk so your MBR if have windows on first HD grub won't install onto the MBR of the first HD
[01:48] <bigtimer121> cky: does that help?