[09:27] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: Are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com in your sources.list ?
[09:27] <B-Minus> h3sp4wn: tnx
[09:27] <Dasnipa`> RawSewage, its been overloaded since slashdot posted that 6.10 was out
[09:27] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: no.im using a greek server
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> B-Minus: you shouldn't have to do anything
[09:27] <RawSewage> lol
[09:27] <skript> any nasty suprises before I dist-upgrade to edgy ?
[09:27] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: Try making the sources say archive.ubuntu.com only.  Take off the us. or whatever you have
[09:28] <hombero> how do i view all the channels?
[09:28] <Dasnipa`> i made it 34% thru the download in 1 hour, its not been 3and a half hours since that and ive only gained about 10%
[09:28] <cango> my sources.list how can i change it for my mp3's
[09:28] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: how can i do that?
[09:28] <jamesm> anyone here familiar with schoolbell ?
[09:28] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: Edit the file and remove it
[09:28] <cango> Hawkwind: my sources.list how can i change it for my mp3's
[09:28] <TheGateKeeper> skript: Firefox 2 has nobbled extensions & I have a fix for OO
[09:28] <Hawkwind> cango: What do you mean 'for your mp3's'  ??
[09:28] <Pensacola> I followed this guide for my refresh rate and now my resolution is stuck at 1024*768 http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Screen_refresh_rate_t33565.html
[09:28] <Pensacola> can anyone help me?
[09:28] <hombero> how do i view all the channels?
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> Dasnipa`: get the last daily build from a mirror (will be loads faster)
[09:29] <skript> gatekeep: fix for 00 ?
[09:29] <Hawkwind> hombero: No need to repeat yourself.  What IRC client ?
[09:29] <Dasnipa`> h3sp4wn, meh too late... im already at 60% no big deal
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: I suggested cango install libxine-extracodecs I presume he is trying to sort that out
[09:29] <hombero> Konversation
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> cango: dapper or edgy?
[09:30] <Hawkwind> hombero: Ah, no idea as I don't use konversation.  /msg chanserv list *search-word*  will give you the channel with the word you put in between the *'s
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> hombero:  /list
[09:30] <yonkeltron> the mirrors are swamped!
[09:30] <hombero> cool thanks
[09:30] <Hawkwind> Hawkwind: You can do /list but on a big server like Freenode, it's not recommended
[09:31] <Hawkwind> yonkeltron: Perfectly normal for any distros new release
[09:31] <skript> oh...now I get it...OO=openoffice... ehzz..
[09:31] <cango> TheGateKeeper: dapper
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> cango: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:32] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: i have that general server to get downloads as well.but it still fails.isnt there any other way to install the package manually?
[09:32] <bLaZeD> omg its here!
[09:32] <yonkeltron> Hawkwind: yes. good.
[09:32] <hombero> any ideas where i can find help compiling allegro under kubuntu, im having trounble
[09:32] <BrightEyes`> RawSewage: kwikdisk can format partitions? i didnt find any selection to do that
[09:32] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: Long time ago :P
[09:32] <Hawkwind> hombero: sudo apt-get install allegro ?
[09:32] <bLaZeD> Hawkwind, i went to bed b4 midnight lastnight
[09:33] <bLaZeD> just got in
[09:33] <hombero> hmm let me try that
[09:33] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: I'd wait a while and let the mirrors slow down a bit
[09:33] <bLaZeD> damn the torrents saying tracker is overloaded
[09:33] <italo> Edgy was released?
[09:33] <RawSewage> BrightEyes`, no, it shows you how much space you have on your disks
[09:33] <Hawkwind> italo: Yes
[09:33] <bLaZeD> wait just went through
[09:33] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: Typical.  Grab it elsewhere
[09:33] <bLaZeD> torrents my best bet
[09:33] <hombero> E: Couldn't find package allegro
[09:34] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: Probably not.  I downloaded the CD's this morning, both of them, in less than an hour
[09:34] <Hawkwind> !info allegro
[09:34] <ubotu> Package allegro does not exist in any distro I know
[09:34] <Hawkwind> !find allegro
[09:34] <BrightEyes`> RawSewage: i want a tool to format partitions in fat32(vfat)
[09:34] <ubotu> Found: allegro-demo, allegro-demo-data, allegro-examples, liballegro-dev, liballegro-doc (and 15 others)
[09:34] <Hawkwind> hombero: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:34] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: im trying this thing for 10 minutes now
[09:34] <hombero> ty
[09:34] <Qaldune> hi
[09:35] <RawSewage> BrightEyes`, I dont know anything about that
[09:35] <cango> TheGateKeeper: my sources.list how can i change it for my mp3's
[09:35] <Hawkwind> cango: Explain what you mean when you say change it for your mp3's and I might can help you
[09:35] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: I would go for the last daily build (from a generic mirror - the last daily build will in most cases by indentical to the release - if its not then the release would be delayed)
[09:35] <hombero> btw im new to kubuntu lol just figuring out terminal and stuff still
[09:36] <BrightEyes`> How can i format a partition to fat32 (vfat) ? (using kubuntu)
[09:36] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, huh what u mean by last daily build
[09:36] <TimsonC2000> how can i update my kubuntu ... i m a gentoo user
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> !daily
[09:36] <ubotu> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[09:36] <TheGateKeeper> cango: follow the instructions I gave you on that URL carefully, then apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:36] <B-Minus> h3sp4wn: i also need beryl manager ?
[09:37] <cango> TheGateKeeper: i did it one month ago and i changed it pardus. Now i installed it newly
[09:37] <hombero> anyone know anything about kdevelop?
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: find daily/current on a mirror
[09:37] <Hawkwind> TimsonC2000: Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy you mean ?
[09:37] <bLaZeD> ohh like a sub folder
[09:37] <TheGateKeeper> cango: pardus?
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: most of the mirrors probably will not update until tonight (the big ones)
[09:37] <Pensacola> I can't get my refresh rate higher than 60Hz @ 1280*960 but it should be 72, how can I change it?
[09:38] <cango> Turkish linux
[09:38] <bLaZeD> ahh k got ya h3sp4wn
[09:38] <bLaZeD> im dling a torrent right now.....
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> cango: ahhh
[09:38] <bLaZeD> and i dont think i have any blank cd's.....just dvd's
[09:38] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: as well Mplayer cant install either. it says BREAK
[09:38] <cango> TheGateKeeper: Turkish Linux. But i can't connct internet with my wireless laptop
[09:39] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: Maybe you should paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us for all of us to see
[09:39] <cango> TheGateKeeper: i'm waiting u
[09:40] <hombero> anyone know anything about Kdevelop? im having trouble compiling anything
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> cango: the only other way would be to somehow get hold of the alternative CD which has packages on it, & install from that
[09:41] <Hawkwind> hombero: Why are you compiling apps that are available with apt-get ?
[09:41] <Megiddo> Where can I download the Kubuntu DVD?
[09:41] <Megiddo> Don't see it on download page
[09:41] <bLaZeD> Hawkwind, u install it yet?
[09:42] <Hawkwind> Megiddo: It's only availble in torrents
[09:42] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: See #LFD
[09:42] <Raven301> Megiddo: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/dvd/
[09:42] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: I just had that convo
[09:42] <Megiddo> Thanks Raven301
[09:42] <bLaZeD> Hawkwind, ahh lol
[09:42] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: i get a printscreen.can i send it to you?
[09:42] <BrightEyes`> *g0t
[09:42] <TheGateKeeper> cango: the other option would be to use a distro like PCLinuxOS or Mepis that has already got multimedia setup as soon as you install it
[09:42] <Raven301> Megiddo: np
[09:42] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: No.  You need to paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us for everyone to see
[09:43] <hombero> what is the advantage of the kubuntu dvd over live cd for ubuntu?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: or kanotix
[09:43] <bLaZeD> Megiddo, http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/dvd/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[09:43] <cango> TheGateKeeper: how can i update apt-get
[09:43] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: works 'out of the box' too then? :-)
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: yep (1 script to install fglrx or nvidia)
[09:44] <kjelderg> when I start adept, it tells me that something else is accessing the database.  I'm not so sure it's right
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> cango: you need an internet connection really for (k)ubuntu
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> kjelderg: /msg ubotu adept crash fix
[09:45] <cango> TheGateKeeper: it's ok
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: damn I am just going to have to give it a go
[09:45] <xerxesis> bonjour tou le monde
[09:45] <LjL> !fr
[09:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:46] <gopp> have you updated to edgy yet
[09:46] <gopp> is it worth the update
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: always pretty upto date as well (because it uses sid repos)
[09:46] <B-Minus> DEAR GOD beryl RULEZ
[09:46] <kjelderg> h3sp4wn: thanks :)
[09:47] <kjelderg> B-Minus: doesn't it?
[09:47] <B-Minus> omfg
[09:47] <larson9999> gopp: speaking of the update.  since edgy is released, is there anything special required to update or are do you use the normal dapper repositories
[09:47] <LjL> yes, it's very 1337 4 h4x0rz
[09:47] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/182 <--- the link
[09:47] <kjelderg> most of it seems like fluff ... but there are a few features that actually increase usability
[09:48] <jamesm> anyone have any exp. with SchoolTool ?
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> LjL: I thought h4x0rz used blackbox / fluxbox / ratpoison etc
[09:48] <hombero> How do i install automake?
[09:48] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: As I stated earlier, you need remove the gr.  and make it just archive.ubuntu.com from each line
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> hombero: sudo aptitude install automake1.9
[09:48] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: remove only the gr. ?
[09:49] <hombero> thanks!
[09:49] <lupine_laptop> wowsers, the uk. mirror is giving me a mere 5kb/sec right now!
[09:49] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: Yes
[09:49] <goliath23> hi. I tried upgrading to kubuntu 6.10 but in the middle of the upgrade process somthing failed. now it suggest to run "apt-get -f install" if I do this, it tries to remove xserver-xorg and that fails because some "atck smashing protection" kill the post installation perl script... damn!
[09:49] <Hawkwind> lupine_laptop: That's why you download earlier :P
[09:49] <Raven301> hombero: or sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[09:49] <daseeb> hello! I updated dapper -> edgy this afternoon... first everything was fine. now kaffeine doesn't start anymore. even on console there is no output. just new line and then breaks.
[09:49] <lupine_laptop> I did :)
[09:50] <lupine_laptop> I just realised my laptop needed toshutils
[09:50] <gopp> what is kaffeine
[09:50] <Hawkwind> lupine_laptop: As in much earlier when it first got released :)
[09:50] <Hawkwind> !kaffeine
[09:50] <yacoob> Greetings.
[09:50] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[09:50] <Hawkwind> goliath23: Have you read this:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[09:50] <yacoob> How much space for / of Ubuntu?
[09:51] <gopp> lupine_laptop hi
[09:51] <gopp> lupine_laptop do I knowyou
[09:51] <jende> !swf
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Hawkwind> yacoob: Totally up to you really
[09:51] <lupine_laptop> yacoob: anywhere from 2GB up really
[09:51] <jende> !shockwave
[09:51] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[09:51] <lupine_laptop> gopp: no idea. lupine_85 is also me
[09:51] <yacoob> ok, lemme rephrase that
[09:51] <yacoob> I want to install over my curent lvm setup
[09:51] <gopp> I know  a lupine on efnet
[09:51] <yacoob> in which / is 5.4GB
[09:51] <lupine_laptop> ah, no that isn't me
[09:52] <yacoob> would it be enough, barely enough, or just fine, or even whoa, way too much? :)
[09:52] <lupine_laptop> hmm, apt-get just removed libgl1-mesa-dri
[09:52] <daseeb> no ideas what's wrong with my kaffeine?
[09:52] <yacoob> it's lvm, I can resize it, but if possible I'd leave it as it is, have no backup of other volumens :D
[09:52] <gopp> does itunes work in linux
[09:53] <gopp> I know I gotten mirc to work
[09:53] <goliath23> Hawkwind: no, this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade but its the same!
[09:53] <gopp> !itunes
[09:53] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[09:53] <gopp> !players
[09:53] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:53] <xerxesis> moi1392 es tu la ?
[09:54] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: i did that and still it says break.
[09:54] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: You need to be more descriptive
[09:54] <gopp> !upnp
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: After you removed the gr.  did you run:  sudo apt-get update first ??
[09:54] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: i removed gr. from those servers but i still can't install mplayer. what can i do
[09:55] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: sudo apt-get update
[09:55] <yacoob> gopp, if you want something itunes like, I can recommend amarok
[09:56] <komposter> how can y use ipod shuffle in kubuntu? itunes does not exist in linux and gtkpod not work right with ipod! what can y do?
[09:56] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: ok ive done it.next?
[09:56] <jamesm> Anyone familiar with SchoolBell and calendar synching on numerous clients ?
[09:56] <lupine_laptop> buy an iRiver ;)
[09:56] <yacoob> komposter, amarok also has ipod support, but I'm not sure about it's quality
[09:56] <Hawkwind> BrightEyes`: Now try to install the app again
[09:56] <cango_> TheGateKeeper: i find some codes like this wget http://ubuntu-tr.com/download/sources.list, sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update,
[09:57] <cango_> TheGateKeeper: i do it
[09:57] <Napa> I'm trying to install XCHAT but when i write ./Configure it says ""checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool""
[09:57] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: it says BREAK(install)) . damn it
[09:57] <jorik> Napa: just install with apt ?
[09:57] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: tell me which servers to add.i will erase all the others
[09:57] <gopp> where does ubuntu mount samba file system
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> cango_: good :-)
[09:57] <gopp> I have music stored in my samba server
[09:58] <cango_> TheGateKeeper: i ask another question 2 u. how can i play my dvd's
 what plugin for amarok y need?
[09:58] <gopp> I can look it symlink but where or what dir does it mkdir for the samba system
[09:58] <cango_> TheGateKeeper: what is the meaning og these codes
[09:58] <yacoob> komposter, I think it works out of the box
[09:58] <Napa> jorik: what do you mean?
[09:58] <TheGateKeeper> cango_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[10:00] <yacoob> hm, is edgy also distributed without propertiary codecs?
[10:00] <larson9999> is edgy the 'name' of 6.10 and not just a generic term for the next version of whatever version of ubuntu is the latest release?
[10:00] <kjelderg> affirmative
[10:00] <lupine_85> larson9999: yep
[10:00] <LjL> larson9999: it's the codename for 6.10
[10:00] <kjelderg> next is ... something fawn
[10:00] <lupine_85> feisty is the next one
[10:00] <LjL> Feisty Fawn
[10:00] <lupine_85> !feisty
[10:00] <kjelderg> feisty
[10:00] <ubotu> feisty is the codename for ubuntu 7.04
[10:00] <kjelderg> thanks :)
[10:01] <larson9999> thanks
[10:01] <larson9999> ok, well here goes for the upgrade
[10:01] <yacoob> lupine_85, don't be worried, I upgraded my debian from stable to testing years ago on modem line... :D
[10:02] <lupine_85> oh, the joy
[10:04] <elfstone> hi
[10:04] <zigovr> hi all, I'm trying to recompile my own kernel, I follow instructions here http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_Dapper, however I end up with a zero sized initrd file, is that normal ?
[10:04] <elfstone> i have a major problem with my nvidia drivers on edgy
[10:04] <BrightEyes`> Hawkwind: tell me which servers to add.i will erase all the others
[10:05] <elfstone> today i moved onto edgy and started to install everything again
[10:05] <gopp> hey
[10:05] <gopp> one question
[10:05] <elfstone> i installed nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:05] <gopp> where does ubuntu
[10:05] <gopp> mount samba file system
[10:05] <elfstone> changed the xorg driver from nv to nvidia and restarted x
[10:05] <elfstone> and now i dont have xgl which i supposed to have
[10:06] <hombero> !
[10:06] <zigovr> elfstone: what nvidia card do you have ? is that an old one ?
[10:06] <elfstone> yes old one
[10:06] <elfstone> GeForce 2 Ti
[10:06] <Sir_Briz1> eugh
[10:06] <zigovr> and you need to use the legacy driver for this model ?
[10:06] <hombero> !info berkley
[10:07] <ubotu> Package berkley does not exist in any distro I know
[10:07] <hombero> how do i use that?
[10:07] <elfstone> yes
[10:07] <hombero> ok i see
[10:07] <hombero> !find berkley
[10:07] <elfstone> on dapper drake i used legacy and everything worked
[10:07] <ubotu> Package/file berkley does not exist in dapper
[10:07] <elfstone> on edgy it dont work
[10:07] <hombero> !find Berkley
[10:08] <ubotu> Package/file berkley does not exist in dapper
[10:08] <hombero> anyone know how to install kdevelop?
[10:09] <Kr4t05> Happy Release Day! :)
[10:09] <hombero> can somone please help me
[10:12] <BrightEyes`> anyone can give me the servers for getting packages throught Adept?
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> !mirrors
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:17] <ryanr> what is the ocmmand to show free disk space?
[10:17] <yacoob> df -h in terminal
[10:17] <Hawkwind> df -h
[10:17] <ryanr> Thanks  yacoob and Hawkwind
[10:18] <yacoob> if every problem would be simple as that... :>
[10:20] <nixert> blin
[10:21] <lunitik> Where would I find Kubuntu alternate install cd's? (all I can find is the live DVD images, system has no DVD drive - let alone burner - and livecd doesn't work with it - not enough RAM)
[10:21] <tapas> hmm, can i somehow keep X from starting when i boot from the live cd?
[10:21] <tapas> the desktop 386 iso that is..
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> tapas: try adding 1 (to the end of the grub boot line - may put you into single user mode - may not work)
[10:22] <tapas> h3sp4wn: yah i just tried that
[10:22] <tapas> i put the 1 before the --
[10:22] <tapas> dunno if that was right
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> tapas: I think its last (maybe it doesn't work)
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> tapas: there is always the old init=/bin/sh trick
[10:23] <tapas> h3sp4wn: hah, that will be my last resort if nothing helps ;)
[10:23] <tapas> thx for that tip
[10:23] <lunitik> Never mind, I found them
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> tapas: Useless live cd's anyway (kanotix is a much better one)
[10:24] <tapas> h3sp4wn: yah, i want to install kubuntu though
[10:24] <tapas> and X freezes.. on this laptop i do have a working X config on a nother partition
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> tapas: use the install from knoppix howto (install with debootstrap
[10:25] <tapas> h3sp4wn: not a bad idea
[10:26] <Johnsandman> is this normal i can't install firefox all request is broken :|
[10:26] <Johnsandman> in new edgy
[10:27] <lunitik> Johnsandman: what is the error?
[10:27] <Napa> can anyone see this norwegian characters    ?
[10:27] <tapas> i have to see first whether knopppix actually boots with X working ;)
[10:30] <lunitik> Napa: yes
[10:30] <Johnsandman> everything cannot install missing files and so on :|
[10:30] <Napa> On undernet they says they can't see  from me ... Guess they are using Mirc
[10:30] <tapas> i use irssi in a screen session on a different box. it look slike garbage to me, too
[10:30] <Johnsandman> but i am using amd64 maybe thats the problem ??
[10:30] <lunitik> Napa: could be anything... maybe they just don't have norwegian fonts installed etc
[10:30] <Napa> lunitik: : yes they have ... it's an norwegian channel
[10:30] <tapas> uuh, X works nicely wit knoppix 4
[10:30] <Xubuntian> what's that?
[10:30] <lunitik> Xubuntian: whats what?
[10:30] <tapas> so i can have at least several terminals while installing kubuntu L:)
[10:30] <Napa> ahh .. I use unicode
[10:30] <yacoob> ...hey, someone took my messages away!
[10:31] <yacoob> Only splash remains! Help!
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> Napa: I can see them fine (enable unicode for irssi)
[10:33] <Xubuntian> sorry nothing :)
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> Napa:
[10:34] <Johnsandman> hmm downloading for amd is not ready yet to install files
[10:35] <Johnsandman> think need to wait
[10:36] <Johnsandman> I mean amd64 is not total ready for doawlaoding get an error while trying to download the updates
[10:37] <gopp> hey
[10:37] <gopp> what does this error mean
[10:37] <gopp> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //gopunix/Music,
[10:37] <BrightEyes`> what should i do to adept servers to find all the packages? [something with universe ]
[10:37] <gopp> but I used smbfs
[10:40] <jarn> How do I move thing around on the kicker?
[10:41] <pielgrzym> I'm installing edgy: Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN1> line 9.
[10:41] <pielgrzym> wtf??
[10:41] <sh4d3z> what would happen if i ran this command? kill -9 1
[10:41] <Dasnipa`> i dont think it would let you
[10:42] <Dasnipa`> plus you dont own that process
[10:42] <Dasnipa`> so you would have to sudo it
[10:42] <Dasnipa`> but it still shouldnt let you
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> sh4d3z: depends there is a way of making it do a soft reboot if it ever crashes forget how
[10:43] <sh4d3z> ahhh
[10:43] <sjau> weiss jemand wie ich die Bilddimensionen in Gimp ndere?
[10:43] <sjau> sorry, wrong channel :)
[10:44] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:45] <sh4d3z> thanx, i see now
[10:45] <pielgrzym> could anyone help me with upgrading to edgy? here is what happens: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28502/
[10:50] <pielgrzym> could anyone help me with upgrading to edgy? here is what happens: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28502/
[10:50] <Snake> !ping
[10:50] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[10:51] <jarn> How do I move thing around on the kicker?
[10:52] <tdn> Where do I get the 6.06 Kubuntu installcd via bittorrent?
[10:54] <shrimp> hello, how do i get xgl?
[10:54] <shrimp> i'm new to this....
[10:54] <shrimp> :(
[10:55] <vge> !xgl
[10:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:56] <shrimp> http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez won't work :(
[10:57] <root_> holaaa
[10:58] <root_> alguien tiene instalado el counter strike en el linux kubuntu?
[10:58] <root_> alguien tiene instalado el counter strike en el linux kubuntu?
[10:58] <root_> alguien tiene instalado el counter strike en el linux kubuntu?
[10:59] <jarn> How do I move thing around on the kicker?
[10:59] <pielgrzym> could anyone help me with upgrading to edgy? here is what happens: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28502/
[10:59] <pielgrzym> I get the dumb dependency problems. Well did Microsoft help develop edgy?
[10:59] <cheewie_> libntfs8 any one have test that one?
[11:00] <BonBonTheJon> !es | root
[11:00] <BonBonTheJon> !es | root_
[11:00] <ubotu> root: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:00] <ubotu> root_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:01] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: did you change sources.list
[11:01] <BonBonTheJon> jarn: what do you mean
[11:01] <jarn> BonBonTheJon: Somehow my clock and system tray got moved over to the middle of the kicker.
[11:01] <yacoob> hm
[11:01] <pielgrzym> BonBonTheJon: yes I did
[11:01] <yacoob> what's the difference between edgy-security and edgy-updates in sources.list?
[11:01] <yacoob> first one are more crucial updates? :)
[11:02] <BonBonTheJon> jarn: right click on the clock and it should have an option of move
[11:02] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: all the "dapper
[11:02] <BonBonTheJon> ...
[11:02] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: all the "dapper"s to "edgy"
[11:03] <pielgrzym> BonBonTheJon: yes - all the workin repos - the ones commented out I left 'dapper', but they're not used anyway?
[11:04] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: hmm, I haven't done the upgrade yet, but that seems like all you need to do
[11:04] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: I don't know what all your pastebin means, sorry
[11:05] <pielgrzym> BonBonTheJon: here's my sources list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28504/
[11:05] <pielgrzym> this is pretty frustrating :|
[11:05] <BonBonTheJon> jarn: did it work?
[11:05] <nickv111> I can't get any of the kubuntu edgy torrents to work. When I open them in ktorrent, I just get a Status: Stalled
[11:06] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: try commenting out everything besides the ubuntu repos
[11:06] <jarn> BonBonTheJon: Sorry, didn't notice. I'll try it now.
[11:06] <jarn> BonBonTheJon: No, there's no option for move.
[11:07] <BonBonTheJon> jarn: is the panel locked?
[11:07] <pielgrzym> BonBonTheJon: I'd rather get back to dapper - I'm already sick of edgy :| but unfortunately dpkg installed some packages ;(
[11:07] <jarn> BonBonTheJon: No.
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Does anyone here have experience setting up a Windows Network Printer in Kubuntu ?
[11:08] <larson9999> well now! ain't edgy all nice and purty?
[11:08] <BonBonTheJon> pielgrzym: I don't know how to down-grade
[11:08] <pielgrzym> BonBonTheJon: it will be pretty hard now I guess ;( I'll try to redownload only using official repos :(
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: use apt-pinning to force a downgrade
[11:08] <jarn> !cups
[11:08] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: pin priority 1001 will force a downgrade
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: you want the linux computer to be the print server?
[11:09] <pielgrzym> h3sp4wn: I don't understand :)
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: search google for how to force a downgrade with apt
[11:09] <oswaldo> holaaa
[11:09] <pielgrzym> h3sp4wn: thanks :)
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: (completely unsupported etc)
[11:09] <oswaldo> cual es el canal de kubuntu spanish
[11:10] <naegling23> im trying to upgrade to edgy, but im getting the following problem when running dpkg --configure -a :errors were encountered while processing: xfonts-intl-european   how can I resolve this?
[11:10] <BonBonTheJon> !es | oswaldo
[11:10] <ubotu> oswaldo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:10] <BluesKaj> No , my wife's windows pc has the USB printer. My pc is hooked to the windows network thru a router
[11:11] <jarn> How do I install CUPS? When I go to the printer section it tells me the CUPS server is not installed.
[11:11] <BluesKaj> No TheGateKeeper , my wife's windows pc has the USB printer. My pc is hooked to the windows network thru a router
[11:11] <jarn> The printer section in KControl, that is.
[11:11] <yacoob> hm
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: doesn't the printer wizard see it then?
[11:12] <yacoob> edgy is also released without propertiary codecs?
[11:12] <cellofellow> is there a way to run a dist-upgrade from within aptitude, or do I have to exit the app?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> no, that's the problem... it was working last week , but now it doesn't see the printer at all, TheGateKeeper
[11:13] <BluesKaj> TheGateKeeper, it stopped seeing the network printer before I upgraded to Edgy
[11:13] <larson9999> Hawkwind: about a week ago you told me your sources said 'no adobe at all until feb'  looks like the beta was coming out as we were speaking :)
[11:14] <larson9999> Hawkwind: s/adobe/flash/
[11:15] <cellofellow> dist
[11:16] <cellofellow> ten hours, hmmm, what to do while I wait?
[11:16] <yacoob> install xp :>
[11:16] <cellofellow> yacoob: yeah right. I can't even aford an old issue of w2k
[11:17] <cellofellow> estimate changed to 12 hours. that's a lot of packages, yeesh.
[11:17] <Anders0> Is it only my installer that stops at random times?
[11:17] <exhale> am i the only one having problems with firefox? half the time it wont even launch :/
[11:18] <cellofellow> 8 now, kind of finicky isn't it.
[11:18] <Dr_willis> exhale,  no problems here
[11:18] <yacoob> where are the w32codecs for edgy?
[11:18] <Dr_willis> exhale,  try the failsafe mode.. perhaps remove any extensions ya got.
[11:18] <exhale> yacoob: in multiverse i guess?
[11:18] <Dr_willis> !info w32codecs
[11:18] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:18] <Dr_willis> or from the PLF site
[11:18] <yacoob> exhale, no, not there.
[11:18] <exhale> Dr_willis: this is pretty much a vanilla install
[11:18] <cellofellow> yacoob: they were taken out of dapper, you have to download them from an alternative site.
[11:18] <Dr_willis> exhale,  ive had no issues at all with firefox2.0 so far.
[11:19] <yacoob> well, link from wiki doesn't work...
[11:19] <exhale> weird
[11:19] <exhale> anyway, does anyone know how to ad icons? i downloaded a set of them...
[11:19] <cellofellow> yacoob: try the PLF, it has it.
[11:19] <yacoob> PLF?
[11:19] <Dr_willis> !plf
[11:19] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> !pld
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> !plf
[11:19] <cellofellow> !plf | yacoob
[11:19] <yacoob> goot :>
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <ubotu> yacoob: plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:19] <jarn> !cups
[11:19] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:20] <Sir_Briz1> isn't there a way to switch Konqueror to Administrator Mode?
[11:20] <exhale> Sir_Briz1: kdesu konqueror
[11:20] <cellofellow> yacoob: an underground movement with an extra repo with skype, google earth, and w32codecs
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> Sir_Briz1: don't run graphical apps as root
[11:20] <Dr_willis> its not a good idea to run those filemanagers like that as root. :)
[11:20] <Dr_willis> it can get REAL REAL bad.
[11:20] <yacoob> hehe, are plf's repos trusted?
[11:20] <cellofellow> Sir_Briz1: use midnight commander. package is mc.
[11:20] <Sir_Briz1> my stupid trash won't empty
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> Sir_Briz1: If you have to krusader is about the best
[11:20] <Dr_willis> yacoob,  yes.
[11:20] <Sir_Briz1> I don't know what to do about it
[11:21] <yacoob> ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/plf/ubuntu/README :/
[11:21] <cellofellow> yacoob: they use a gnupgp authentication system to make sure they are.
[11:21] <Dr_willis> yacoob,  but their ubuntu support may not be around for much longer
[11:21] <naegling23> can anyone help me, i cant upgrade to edgy
[11:21] <yacoob> cellofellow, well, I'd rather mean are the guys behind packages trusted :)
[11:21] <naegling23> all of my files break install
[11:21] <cellofellow> yeah, not enough interest so their kind of falling apart.
[11:21] <yacoob> signed package is still dangerous, if you don't trust the person that signed it... :>
[11:22] <naegling23> I traced the problem back to xfonts-intl-european (by using dpkg --configure -a.....but i dont know how to fix it
[11:22] <cellofellow> yacoob: works for me. I got g-earth there and no problems
[11:22] <yacoob> cellofellow, can you share the line from sources.list? (the fastest way :)
[11:22] <exhale> damn, installing themes and stuff under KDE shure is a pain
[11:23] <cellofellow> yacoob: one sec, using a shell so no copy/paste (that I know of.)
[11:23] <Sir_Briz1> can I get to the trash from the command line?
[11:23] <yacoob> if you're in shell, you can c&p between VTs with gpm
[11:24] <cellofellow> yacoob: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper non-free
[11:24] <cellofellow> yacoob: dunno if they've made an edgy repo, but the packages should work in edgy anyways.
[11:25] <Igor_V2> hi...how i change desktop on kubuntu? :T
[11:25] <cellofellow> yacoob: what's gpm? I'm using screen, and not VT's/
[11:25] <cellofellow> .
[11:25] <yacoob> the problem is, the site is down (at least right now)
[11:25] <cellofellow> Igor_V2: like virtual desktop or desktop environment?
[11:25] <yacoob> cellofellow, gpm is a daemon that handles mouse under linux console (as in text console, not X)
[11:25] <yacoob> by default you have 6 text VTs, and X launches on 7th
[11:26] <cellofellow> yacoob: so, select middle-click thing, with the mouse?
[11:26] <yacoob> it's configurable :)
[11:26] <cellofellow> yacoob: I know that, but I don't like logging in so much, so I use screen.
[11:26] <cellofellow> yacoob: is it included, or do I have to add it. (can't do that upgrading.)
[11:26] <Igor_V2> cellofellow: i wanna change the desktop envoronment
[11:27] <cellofellow> Igor_V2: install ubuntu-desktop to install gnome, and xubuntu-desktop to install XFCE.
[11:27] <cellofellow> Igor_V2: there's also fluxbox and window maker
[11:27] <Igor_V2> good...thanks
[11:29] <shadowhywind> hi all, how hellish is it in here now, with 6.10 out?
[11:29] <DjDarkman> hy ,where can I get this kubuntu device database?
[11:29] <cellofellow> yacoob: is gpm included in dapper?
[11:29] <Dr_willis> shadowhywind,  when in doubt  scream and shout. :)
[11:29] <DjDarkman> *harware database
[11:29] <shadowhywind> snicker
[11:29] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gpm
[11:29] <yacoob> cellofellow, dunno :>
[11:29] <DjDarkman> *hardware databse
[11:29] <yacoob> should be, it's pretty common thing
[11:29] <cellofellow> shadowhywind: currently upgrading.
[11:30] <hazard2> what's this new things that's been released?
[11:30] <shadowhywind> I ran into a problem with the upgrade
[11:30] <shadowhywind> i do the dist-upgrade, and i get a ton of the following packeages have unmet dependencies..
[11:30] <shadowhywind> anyone have a clue?
[11:31] <Sir_Briz1> arg
[11:31] <cellofellow> shadowhywind: using aptitude or apt-get. I tried aptitude, got that, and used apt-get no problems.
[11:31] <novh> !compiz
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:31] <Sir_Briz1> does anyone know how to force the Trash to empty?
[11:31] <shadowhywind> i am using apt-get
[11:31] <naegling23> shadow, im having a problem with xfonts-intl-european i cant upgrade either, seems no one else can help though
[11:31] <cellofellow> Sir_Briz1: click on it and click empty?
[11:31] <Sir_Briz1> cellofellow: I do that and it doesn't do anything
[11:32] <cellofellow> Sir_Briz1: you can open it and just straight delete things with shift+del
[11:32] <cpk2> alright guys here's the deal, I want to get my sensors to work in kubuntu (cpu and board temp, fan speed would be nice too) and yes my motherboard supports this. where would I start to figure how to get this to work?
[11:32] <Sir_Briz1> cellofellow: I do that and get access denied errors
[11:32] <larson9999> the flash player beta is good so far.
[11:32] <yacoob> hehe
[11:32] <yacoob> is .hidden parsed only by konqueror, or something else too?
[11:32] <cellofellow> Sir_Briz1: no idea. does everything in there belong to you?
[11:32] <Sir_Briz1> cellofellow: I don't know how else I would be able to delete it
[11:33] <hazard2> How do you tell what version of Kubuntu You have?
[11:33] <Sir_Briz1> where is the Trash stored?
[11:33] <RawSewage> when I try to access a php page on my server with Firefox, Firefox asks to save the file.  How can I fix this
[11:33] <cellofellow> Sir_Briz1: maybe it's someone elses and you only have group write permissions or something.
[11:33] <zorglu_> soon end of the first edgy day!! :)
[11:33] <zorglu_> hazard2: lsb_release -a
[11:33] <Dr_willis> hazard2,  lsb_release -a
[11:33] <exhale> RawSewage: have you tried it with another browser?
[11:33] <RawSewage> no
[11:33] <Sir_Briz1> cellofellow: okay, but how would I resolve that?
[11:33] <cellofellow> RawSewage: sounds like the server isn't running the php programs.
[11:33] <naegling23> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggg i cant move forward without removing xfonts-intl-european but i cant remove it arrrrrrrrrrgggggggggg help please
[11:33] <hazard2> Oh, ok thanks.
[11:33] <yacoob> *gasp* ntfs rw support!
[11:33] <cellofellow> Sir_Briz1: no idea, it was just a guess.
[11:33] <RawSewage> hm
[11:33] <exhale> RawSewage: could be a coding problem at your end
[11:33] <yacoob> which driver? Is it safe?!?
[11:34] <RawSewage> exhale, no
[11:34] <shadowhywind> naegling23 have you tried apt-get -f install?
[11:34] <tapas> hmm, where do i find mirrors for archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:34] <zorglu_> moauaou chaotic moment :)
[11:34] <naegling23> yea, 118 packages are held back because of xfonts-intl-european
[11:34] <zorglu_> yacoob: who knows gurp
[11:34] <RawSewage> cellofellow, how do I check if php is running/working
[11:34] <shadowhywind> oh
[11:34] <cpk2> Sir_Briz1:  /home/cpk1/.local/share/Trash/files replace cpk1 with your user name
[11:34] <cellofellow> i'm just waiting for the linux image to finish downloading, with the rest of the dist-upgrade.
[11:34] <exhale> i think the dev's did a fantastic job with kubuntu edgy.. it feels SO much more polished than dapper
[11:35] <Sir_Briz1> cpk2: thanks
[11:35] <cellofellow> RawSewage: connect with Konqueror, see if it wants to save-as the PHP file too.
[11:35] <hazard2> I'd upgrade, but that'd risk me BORKING up my only working machine (which also dosen't have windows installed)
[11:35] <zorglu_> exhale: really ? i hear a lot of 'i broke my install' from here
[11:35] <cpk2> Sir_Briz1: so cd into there on konsole and then you can rm as sudo
[11:35] <exhale> zorglu_: how did they do that? lol
[11:35] <cellofellow> zorglu_: this is a SUPPORT channel.
[11:35] <Sir_Briz1> anyone know how I format a thumbdrive as vfat?
[11:35] <zorglu_> cellofellow: maouaoua
[11:35] <naegling23> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-intl-european_1.2.1-6ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[11:36] <RawSewage> cellofellow, It wants to open it with something too
[11:36] <shadowhywind> naegling23 and you have changed all your package address to edgy?
[11:36] <naegling23> yes
[11:36] <zorglu_> exhale: so you run it without bug ?
[11:36] <pielgrzym> upgrading to edgy sucks :) no one mentioned in a REALLY visible place to DISABLE unofficial repos :( now people like me have messed up totally their systems :(
[11:36] <exhale> zorglu_: yea.. i always do clean installs
[11:36] <zorglu_> exhale: im quite worried about the announcement. they say it is stable and cutting edge....
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Distrowatch news -->  n between all the *buntu release announcements, here is something for the fans of openSUSE - the first beta of openSUSE 10.2 is now ready for testing
[11:37] <larson9999> luckily my upgrade went prefectly
[11:37] <zorglu_> exhale: i dont understand how you can be both
[11:37] <shadowhywind> wait what?! disable unoffical repos?
[11:37] <pielgrzym> I'm doing dist upgrade -f - but I'm almost certain this is only a beggining of my problems :((((
[11:37] <cellofellow> RawSewage: set up the PHP module in apache. I don;t know how but at least we have a diagnosis.
[11:37] <pielgrzym> shadowhywind: lol
[11:37] <RawSewage> cellofellow, Im pretty sure I did
[11:37] <exhale> zorglu_: dont take that seriously...
[11:37] <borisyeltsin> hi, in openoffice when I click in text already written and try to write more it writes over the text already there instead of inserting. how do I fix this?
[11:37] <shadowhywind> why are you doing dist upgrade -f ??
[11:37] <Sir_Briz1> no one know how to format a thumb drive as vrfat?
[11:38] <Sir_Briz1> vfat*
[11:38] <larson9999> this is great!  the flash 9 beta works great with pbskids and nickjr.  now we don't even need wine!
[11:38] <Dr_willis> borisyeltsin,  hit the insert key to toggle the insert/overwrite mode perhaps?
[11:38] <cellofellow> RawSewage: try again, look through the configs. somethings not right.
[11:38] <shadowhywind> use qtpartition
[11:38] <zorglu_> exhale: which part the 'stable' or the cutting edge ? :) personnaly i think the stable is not serious. and i need stable :)
[11:38] <shadowhywind> or qpartition, or something like that
[11:38] <larson9999> gparted
[11:38] <pielgrzym> qtparted
[11:38] <borisyeltsin> Dr_willis: where's the insert key?
[11:38] <larson9999> gparted=better imho
[11:38] <Dr_willis> borisyeltsin,  its the key on the keyboard with 'insert' written on it.
[11:38] <hazard2> above the del key on extended keyboards
[11:38] <pielgrzym> larson9999: yup :)
[11:38] <hazard2> on a laptop, I have no idea.
[11:38] <cellofellow> borisyeltsin: above delete
[11:38] <Dr_willis> or often the 0 on the numpad is the same thing
[11:39] <exhale> zorglu_: with a logic like that, you will be stuck with dapper for 5 years
[11:39] <shadowhywind> kik @ Dr)willis
[11:39] <borisyeltsin> holy crap it worked!
[11:39] <pielgrzym> larson9999: qtparted seems to suck on many systems (hangup without reason)
[11:39] <borisyeltsin> thanks Dr_willis
[11:39] <shadowhywind> *wow i can't type*
[11:39] <Dr_willis> borisyeltsin,  :)   old-skool stuff!
[11:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:39] <exhale> zorglu_: unless your running a server or something similiar, i recommend to upgrade. it is not to much bleeding edge other than it having updated packages
[11:39] <Dr_willis> yet another 'hack' that people over look i guess.. :()
[11:40] <RawSewage> cellofellow, ok, thx.  I think youre right.  I need to install the mods
[11:40] <zorglu_> exhale: well it depends how you use your box. i use it to work. i dont really care of having the last feature. i care a lot more in having something which doesnt crash
[11:40] <exhale> zorglu_: ok then :)
[11:40] <larson9999> pielgrzym: well, i've heard similar things about gparted but it seems to work great for me.
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: do you use OO ?
[11:40] <hazard2> I don't have 3Gb of space -_-
[11:40] <zorglu_> exhale: well the issue is how would i know how stable it is ? :)
[11:40] <zorglu_> Th'
[11:40] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: OO = ?
[11:40] <cpk2> qtparted never liked my sata drive
[11:40] <cellofellow> zorglu_: unless you are a company and need real commercial support, upgrade to edgy. dapper is LTS, but that only really makes a difference to companies.
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: Open Office
[11:40] <hazard2> what's the fastest filesystem?
[11:40] <exhale> zorglu_: you'd have to try it probably. but hey its linux, not windows ;)
[11:41] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: nope
[11:41] <giorgio> hi, i just installed kubuntu. i chose italian in the installer, and installation was actually in italian, but now the system is english only. and in "language support" only english shows up. what can i do to make kubuntu italian?
[11:41] <hazard2> xfs? Reiser?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> hazard2,  totally depends on the job at hand.
[11:41] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: why this question
[11:41] <hazard2> Dr_willis: general use, desktop
[11:41] <Dr_willis> hazard2,  some are faster at making files.. some faster at deleting
[11:41] <hazard2> not a server or anything
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: I know of a fix
[11:41] <osh_> Update to edgy is a normal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> hazard2,  General use use ext3
[11:41] <gopp> hey
[11:41] <shadowhywind> damn, i ran into a firefix issue, while trying to unpack it..
[11:41] <zorglu_> exhale: well i guess i will try as soon as i got the time and space to do a test it myself
[11:41] <hazard2> heh, that's what I figured.
[11:41] <cpk2> giorgio: install language-support-it
[11:41] <gopp> hey how do I figure out why they say my name and password is wrong
[11:41] <gopp> in samba
[11:41] <gopp> 19094: session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad password - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.)
[11:42] <gopp> but it correct
[11:42] <giorgio> cpk2: isn't italian supposed to work out-of-the-box?
[11:42] <cpk2> giorgio: I have no clue
[11:42] <cpk2> but that meta package i gave you will install everything italian
[11:42] <giorgio> lemme see
[11:42] <zorglu_> btw did edgy fixed the memory leak in gtk ? i got 100mbyte leaked each time i run a java+gtk. (azureus or eclipse)
[11:43] <zorglu_> 2 weeks ago the memory leak was still there
[11:43] <hazard2> OH GOD, kate just tried to open the ISO!
[11:43] <otaku-san> zorglu_: ohhh now that hurts
[11:43] <giorgio> uhm
[11:43] <giorgio> 845 installed (pkgs), 845 available
[11:43] <zorglu_> otaku-san: quite ok, i just have to reboot X every 2 eclipse launch :)
[11:44] <cpk2> giorgio: sounds like you might only have the cd repo uncommented?
[11:44] <otaku-san> speaking of edgy....how is it going with upgrading?  I'll probably upgrade in a week after the rush dies down...the blogs are full of It's Released!!!
[11:44] <otaku-san> zorglu_: oh fun ;)
[11:45] <giorgio> cpk2: mmh no, i also have some it.archive.ubuntu.com entries
[11:45] <klerfayt> is possible to install edgy without burning iso?
[11:45] <Dr_willis> I installed 3 days ago - and just upgrade :)
[11:45] <Dr_willis> klerfayt,  with some work.. yes.
[11:45] <giorgio> i actually get an error when fetching updates, but the silly adept goes straight back to the pkg list and i can't read it
[11:45] <zorglu_> klerfayt: do you got dapper installed ?
[11:45] <hazard2> o.O shiny, 700k on dorm internet at this time of day...
[11:45] <klerfayt> zorglu_: yeah
[11:45] <cpk2> giorgio: use apt-get on konsole
[11:45] <odla> giorgio: or aptitude in terminal
[11:46] <giorgio> yes, i guess i have to do that
[11:46] <zorglu_> klerfayt: there is a page called 'kubuntuupgrade' on the wiki for you
[11:46] <klerfayt> zorglu_: and separate home partition
[11:46] <giorgio> i actually think adept is 100% crap
[11:46] <zorglu_> klerfayt: without burning cd
[11:46] <shadowhywind> is there a way to upgrade from a CD?
[11:46] <larson9999> otaku-san: i just upgraded and it took about an hour and so far everything is working great.
[11:46] <klerfayt> zorglu_: no not only upgrade; clean install from harddrive
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> giorgio: you can use synaptic
[11:46] <zorglu_> !netboot | klerfayt
[11:46] <ubotu> klerfayt: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:47] <naegling23> oh thank god/allah/budda/a tree i got it working....forgot to enable one of the repositories, for some reason i had it off
[11:47] <otaku-san> larson9999: how big is the upgrade in megabytes?  I have a limit on how much I can use in a month...and others use this connection
[11:47] <giorgio> Err http://it.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[11:47] <giorgio>   404 Not Found
[11:47] <tapas> whoo not hammering the main server helps ;)
[11:47] <zorglu_> klerfayt: this used to be the dapper way. dunno how uptodate it is for edgy
[11:47] <cpk2> giorgio: try using france instead?
[11:47] <giorgio> i get this error with all the it.archive entries!
[11:47] <cpk2> replace it with fr
[11:47] <giorgio> well ok
[11:47] <tapas> if i install ubuntu via debootstrap, it shouldbe no problem to install kde lateron and preetty much get kubuntu?
[11:47] <zorglu_> giorgio: your diag is fully correct it is the fault of adept
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> tapas: kubuntu-desktop will bring in everything
[11:48] <larson9999> otaku-san: for me it was about 90mb
[11:48] <giorgio> but i guess all italians will curse against kubuntu :)
[11:48] <zorglu_> giorgio: your adept should maintain all the repository :)
[11:48] <tapas> h3sp4wn: ok, great
[11:48] <zorglu_> giorgio: any bug on the web is his fault
[11:48] <zorglu_> hmm i think im losing the ubuntu way
[11:48] <zorglu_> ok off
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> tapas: or if you don't need all that stuff just kde-base (and what you do need)
[11:48] <tapas> h3sp4wn: kubuntu is just ubuntu with a different package selection, right?
[11:48] <tapas> h3sp4wn: ok
[11:49] <Dr_willis> tapas,  yes
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> tapas: pretty much
[11:49] <giorgio> ok, france seems to work
[11:49] <draik> I'm downloading the DVD torrent. Anyone else doing the same and getting a lag?
[11:49] <cpk2> hurray they have a dvd torrent now?
[11:49] <draik> cpk2, yup
[11:49] <tapas> draik: nope, but maybe even the tracker is DOS'd ')
[11:49] <draik> not for the CD though
[11:49] <giorgio> also, is it normal that every time i need to do something as administrator, kubuntu asks me for my password? shouldn't it be cached?
[11:49] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  i saw a torrent for just the dvd..dident notice torrents for the cd's
[11:49] <draik> oic
[11:50] <tapas> giorgio: use sudo maybe
[11:50] <morghanphoenix> So, anybody done the dist-upgrade yet?
[11:50] <cpk2> when i went to sleep it was just cds
[11:50] <elijahlofgren> morghanphoenix: doing it now.
[11:50] <giorgio> sudo caches it
[11:50] <Dr_willis> i just did an install of the RC1 - and upgraded every day. :)
[11:50] <cpk2> sudo caches it for 10 minutes i think
[11:50] <elijahlofgren> Need to get 769MB of archives. 3.5 hours to go. :)
[11:50] <campbch> im going to as soon as i can get to a reliable wifi connection, my dorm wifi blows :(
[11:50] <lupine_laptop> arghy, gb. seems compleltely dead now :/
[11:50] <giorgio> but kde doesn't
[11:50] <campbch> :o ouch
[11:50] <morghanphoenix> I'm kinda worried after my slackware 10.2 to 11 attempt
[11:51] <morghanphoenix> Don't want to screw anything up
[11:51] <Dr_willis> heh - but i thought slackware was suppose dto be Perfect!
[11:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:51] <cellofellow> anybody know of a SCP client for Windows that makes Explorer work like Konqueror's fish:/, or maybe a Firefox extension for fish:/
[11:51] <cellofellow> ?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> i always do clean installs.. much less hassle
[11:51] <Dr_willis> winscp
[11:51] <morghanphoenix> Slapt-get is terrible.
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> morghanphoenix: there is a script to upgrade
[11:51] <giorgio> eh morghanphoenix, are you running a 2.6 kernel?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  winscp
[11:51] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, 2.6
[11:51] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: similar to fish?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  no clue.. but its the best scp client ive seen for windows
[11:52] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: ok
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> morghanphoenix: I wouldn't upgrade between releases with slapt-get
[11:52] <giorgio> morghanphoenix: then upgrade udev and its init script as one of the first things you do
[11:52] <Dr_willis> whats 'like fish:' supposed to even MEAN. :)
[11:52] <tapas> is it actually possible to create a root account on an ubuntu box?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> tapas,  trivially easy
[11:52] <giorgio> i think there's an UPGRADE.TXT on the first slackware cd
[11:52] <otaku-san> larson9999: only 90?  Did you do it through adept?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> tapas,  direct logging in as root is disabled.
[11:52] <tapas> [there's some rare cases here sudo can fail to work - i.e. when messing with the system clock]
[11:52] <Dr_willis> tapas,  the account is still there.
[11:52] <tapas> Dr_willis: ok
[11:52] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: fish, just have the files show up like local ones in a filebrowser window.
[11:52] <morghanphoenix> I love pkgtool though, much better than it's debian eqivilant.
[11:53] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: icons
[11:53] <lupine_laptop> sudo is really eeasy to break
[11:53] <Dr_willis> tapas,  its like a Linux IQ test.. if you can figure out how to do it.. go for it.. if not.. better off using sudo :)
[11:53] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: have a seperate home partition?
[11:53] <giorgio> morghanphoenix: i actually installed pkgtools on dapper drake, and they sorta work :)
[11:53] <tapas> Dr_willis: haha :)
[11:53] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  winscp can do 2 pane filemanager, or MS-Explorer clonelooking
[11:53] <hazard2> sudo also won't  work if your hostname file dosen't includethe CORRECT sysytem hostname
[11:53] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  I got a seperate /home hard drive. :)
[11:53] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: perfect
[11:53] <lupine_laptop> I allways set a root password - "just in case", if noithing else
[11:54] <Dr_willis> lupine_laptop, shame shame! :) (so do i)
[11:54] <jarn> Whenever I try to access print, it says that it couldn't connect to the cups server.
[11:54] <jarn> When I go to print in kcontrol, that is.
[11:54] <cpk2> anyone have any ideas on getting my temp sensors to work?
[11:54] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, some programs want a root password and the kubuntu sudo thing doesn't satisfy them.
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> setting a root password is irrelevant if you don't use gui admin apps anyway
[11:54] <Dr_willis> !info lm-sensors
[11:54] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[11:55] <morghanphoenix> I hate windows, I really do.
[11:55] <tapas> h3sp4wn: oh well, sudo is sometimes a bit picky about the system clock [naturally]
[11:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:55] <troy> does anyone know if the koffice 1.6 packages were repackaged for edgy final?
[11:55] <cellofellow> morghanphoenix: let's talk about how much we like linux, not hate windows.
[11:55] <morghanphoenix> Installing the latest service pack on my girl's computer
[11:55] <tapas> h3sp4wn: so a root account into which one can ordinarily log might be good for those things
[11:55] <cellofellow> morghanphoenix: people like positiveness.
[11:55] <Dr_willis> "hate the game, not the player"
[11:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:55] <cpk2> Dr_willis: I have lm-sensors installed
[11:55] <morghanphoenix> And this is supposed to be easier than linux?
[11:56] <lupine_laptop> :D
[11:56] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  did you configure it? :)
[11:56] <giorgio> please, find something better than adept for the next kubuntu. it drives people crazy :/
[11:56] <Dr_willis> I always install synaptic giorgio
[11:56] <cellofellow> morghanphoenix: I hear ya. I was driven to linux by being stuck in windows 98/ME land.
[11:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:56] <solemnwarning> Upgrading to 6.10 reinstalled some package the scales my CPU down to 530Mhz, but I can't remember what it was called
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> giorgio: just use aptitude
[11:56] <draik> people use adept? I'm using the CLI now
[11:56] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi
[11:56] <solemnwarning> What is the app in kubuntu-desktop that scales the CPU down?
[11:56] <elijahlofgren> cellofellow: same here. My Dad didn't want to buy XP.
[11:57] <cpk2> Dr_willis: well there isnt even a man =\
[11:57] <morghanphoenix> ME was my reason, I formatted my hard drive on the phone with MS tech support.
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> giorgio: if you run it in a terminal you can still use the mouse
[11:57] <Napa> is there a good working dc++ client for kUbuntu  6.06.1 LTS ?
[11:57] <giorgio> h3sp4wn: well, i use straight apt, but many potential users would like a GUI app
[11:57] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone tell me where to best get help on ALSA?
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> giorgio: ncurses is a gui
[11:57] <giorgio> and synaptic is so damn simple and good
[11:57] <tapas> MalfermitaKodo: in #alsa
[11:57] <MalfermitaKodo> ah ty
[11:57] <odla> use smart package manager
[11:57] <solemnwarning> Anyone?
[11:57] <shadowhywind> what kind of alsa problem?
[11:57] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  it has a homepage. :)  use 'sensors-detect' i THINK is the command
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> odla: smart is slow here
[11:58] <odla> h3sp4wn: i've never tried it :)
[11:58] <giorgio> ok, going to reboot kde hoping it will be in italian next time :)
[11:58] <giorgio> cya soon
[11:58] <h3sp4wn> odla: not as bad as yum (but python for a package manager sucks if you ask me)
[11:58] <otaku-san> solemnwarning: sorry man...It seems no one knows...maybe google it?
[11:59] <odla> h3sp4wn: do you run kubuntu and debian sid?
[11:59] <solemnwarning> nvm, it's powernowd
[11:59] <cpk2> Dr_willis: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. locate mkdev doesnt give me anything =\
[11:59] <Napa> is there a good working dc++ client for kUbuntu  6.06.1 LTS ?
[12:00] <lupine_laptop> MAKEDEV in ubuntu, I think
[12:00] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  load the i2c modules? you did run that wuth a sudo ?
[12:00] <cpk2> Dr_willis: yes
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> odla: all sort of stuff - sid for anything interactive (laptop and desktop now) I have an edgy xen with ifolder (various other xen's)
[12:00] <jarn> !turboprint
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turboprint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <odla> h3sp4wn: i'm only got one laptop and i'm trying to figure out if i should continue to run sid or kubuntu on it
[12:01] <cpk2> Dr_willis: and how do I load the i2c modules?
[12:01] <livingdaylight> is there a Kubuntu version or KDE version of killall gnome-panel?
[12:01] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  modprobe whatever-they-are-called :) same as any other modules
[12:01] <cellofellow> I want to build a computer for less-than $600 (hardware) that will run edgy/feisty with XGL and Vista without Aero.
[12:01] <odla> h3sp4wn: any recommendations if i can only run one of my lappy?
[12:02] <cellofellow> Any suggestions? Duo-Core or 64bit preffered.
[12:02] <cpk2> hrmm well sbin has i2cdetect...
[12:02] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  i aint got lm-sensors installed to check
[12:02] <Dr_willis> i2c-core.ko
[12:02] <Dr_willis> perhaps..  I thought the sensors-detect command told ya what to install
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> odla: I would probably stick with sid (more upto date less broken than ubuntu+1 gets) unless you need specific laptop stuff which is only in ubuntu (for fan control etc)
[12:02] <cellofellow> What's got the most bang for the buck? AMD64 or Intel Core Duo?
[12:03] <odla> h3sp4wn: ok thanks :)
[12:03] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  not chedked prices lately. :)
[12:03] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  i hear intel core is nicer.. but i perfer amd.
[12:03] <cpk2> Dr_willis: Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. is what it says to do but i dont have a mkdev.sh
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> odla: I think sid breaks pretty rarely - dapper has had more problems (i.e the broken xorg update) than I have had with sid - I think that sid is hard to run is a myth (but often spoken in these parts)
[12:04] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  thats the OLD way..
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> cellofellow: mag I was reading recently suggested Core Duo which kind of surprised me
[12:04] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  loading the modules should do that.
[12:04] <odla> h3sp4wn: how often do you update?
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> ARGH!
[12:04] <cpk2> alright i will try i2c-core.ko
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> odla: every 1 or 2 days
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> I think I need to visit the windows channel
[12:04] <odla> h3sp4wn: ok
[12:05] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  installing lm-sensors now
[12:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:05] <cellofellow> TheGateKeeper: Seems like a marketting gimmick. Two CPU's in one chip. Maybe it's cheaper than two chips
[12:05] <Dr_willis> it is cheaper.
[12:05] <morghanphoenix> This is really annoying.
[12:05] <odla> h3sp4wn: yeah i've had no problems so far with sid
[12:05] <Dr_willis> its not 2 complate chips. :)
[12:05] <cpk2> brb making some oatmeal
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> odla: the kubuntu add ons add slowness (reason I tried it in the first place)
[12:05] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: true. I heard they're good for small computers amd lappy's. Why's that?
[12:06] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  i2c-dev is not loaded. Do you want to load it now? (YES/no):             ---------< thats the module :) ya said yes?
[12:06] <giorgio> ok, italian at last
[12:06] <giorgio> thanks for the help
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> odla: ubuntu+1 is ok but the closer it gets to release the slower it gets (and sometimes it gets very broken)
[12:06] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  i2c-dev is not loaded. Do you want to load it now? (YES/no): yes
[12:06] <Dr_willis>  Module loaded succesfully.
[12:06] <Napa> Isn't there any dc++ clients for linux?
[12:06] <giorgio> now i need to find decent monitor settings
[12:06] <Tripuz> Hi, excuse me for the interruption, but I have a big problem with the edgy update process and I'm stuck! Would somebody help me?
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> cellofellow: I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Amd seemed be stealing the thunder for a while, but I think Intel have come back fighting...
[12:06] <odla> h3sp4wn: ok well i think i'll stick with sid then :)  thanks!
[12:07] <morghanphoenix> Great, #windows consists of a bunch of kids bitching about how evil thier parents are.
[12:07] <cellofellow> TheGateKeeper: yeah, brands and everything. But the 2core's seem to be marketed for small computers like iMacs and laptops? Why?
[12:08] <elijahlofgren> Tripuz: What problem are you having?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  im having OTHER issues with the lm-sensors 'sensor' program. :P
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> cellofellow: very low power (but core 2's are alot faster than the equivalent athlon X2)
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> cellofellow: probable because vista will need it or the pc will come to a grinding halt lol
[12:09] <tapas> hmm, dpkg-reconfigure console-data fails here
[12:09] <Tripuz> well, I am using Dapper and followed the usual steps (changed repositories, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade)
[12:09] <Tripuz> everything downloaded fine
[12:09] <tapas> console-data is not installed [deboostrapped edgy]
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Tripuz: did you install kubuntu-desktop before upgrading?
[12:09] <Tripuz> but when the install started I had several errors
[12:09] <cpk2> Dr_willis: hehe
[12:09] <Tripuz> I already had it installed
[12:09] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: ok. so if I'm looking at one of those barbones kits with a small case and powersupply, so a core 2 would be better there?
[12:09] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  the sensors command dont like the /sys stuff on ubuntu it seems
[12:10] <gnomefreak> Tripuz: apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> cellofellow: I would go for core 2 anyway in terms of performance (or woodcrest xeon)
[12:10] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: ok
[12:10] <solemnwarning> I upgraded to 6.10 and the madwifi module isn't in the restricted modules package any more, even though apt claims it is
[12:10] <Tripuz> just a sec I have my kubuntu box in another room
[12:10] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: I suppose windows doesn't like 64bit much.
[12:10] <solemnwarning> WHY did someone delete the mafwifi module??
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> cellofellow: core 2's are 64 bit
[12:11] <gnomefreak> solemnwarning: i dont think they did
[12:11] <solemnwarning> modprobe says module not found
[12:11] <tapas> and base-config doesn't exist either,,
[12:11] <tapas> hmm
[12:11] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: oh? I thought it was Core 2 Duo was a 64 core and a 32 core, and the Core Duo was 2 32 cores.
[12:11] <gnomefreak> !info madwifi edgy
[12:11] <ubotu> Package madwifi does not exist in edgy
[12:11] <gnomefreak> its still in restricted modules package
[12:11] <solemnwarning> There isn't one
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> cox377: I was talking about core 2
[12:11] <Tripuz> the strange thing is that now I can't find several packages, even with ubuntu-cache kubuntu-desktop isn't installed and there is no candidate version
[12:11] <solemnwarning> It WAS in the restricted modules, not any more
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> cellofellow: I was talking about core 2
[12:12] <Tripuz> I had some locale problems also, but dpkg-reconfigure didn't help
[12:12] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to fix this issue, dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-dev_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:12] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: oh, ok.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> shadowhywind: yes
[12:12] <gnomefreak> shadowhywind: join #ubuntu-classroom please
[12:12] <Tripuz> now I can't start X and apt seems to have several problems