[00:00] <ikonia> chintanparikh: you may have to hardcode it in xorg, or make sure you are using the right video card module
[00:00] <chintanparikh> ikonia: How would I do either?
[00:01] <ikonia> chintanparikh: it depends, what vidoe card do you have
[00:01] <usr13> x86: Sorry.  Try:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu  (about 2/3 way down to "Writing Code")
[00:01] <chintanparikh> AMD Radeon HD 6540 G2. I'm using nomodeset at the moment
[00:01] <Septima> is there some way to list connections of a specific user?
[00:01] <chintanparikh> ikonia: AMD Radeon HD 6540 G2. I'm using nomodeset at the moment
[00:04] <usr13> Septima:  tcpdummp |gerp user-name
[00:05] <achandra> *grep
[00:05] <doctorly> I tried the command 'gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub' and it told me cannot open display
[00:05] <achandra> ^
[00:05] <g0th> usr13: hmm, when I select Analog mono input in pavucontrol I hear everything
[00:05] <usr13> Septima: Ctrl-c when you've seen enough
[00:05] <usr13> achandra: Thanks
[00:05] <usr13> Septima:  tcpdummp |grep user-name
[00:05] <g0th> usr13: before it was on digital stereo output + something
[00:05] <g0th> I know that digital output is/was working, so now instead of digital surround/stereo I get analog mono? ^^
[00:05] <damo22> anyone in melbourne aus?
[00:06] <ikonia> damo22: why ?
[00:06] <damo22> looking to trade my iphone 4s for samsung galaxy nexus
[00:06] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with this channel
[00:06] <usr13> damo22: Gonna start a LUG?  :)
[00:06] <ikonia> please keep it out of this channel
[00:07] <damo22> also would be interested to start a LUG
[00:07] <shwouchk_> hello
[00:08] <usr13> damo22: samsung galaxy nexus?  http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android  ?
[00:08] <ikonia> damo22: there is already a melborne lug
[00:08] <ikonia> usr13: why point him at that as there is nothing released for it yet ?
[00:08] <shwouchk_> for some reason I can see only a couple of buttons in the "system settings". What could be causing it?
[00:08] <damo22> i do not like ubuntu's spying mechanisms through dash
[00:08] <usr13> ikonia: I dono, just searching for a relevant point to his question...
[00:09] <ikonia> damo22: then /parting #ubuntu would be the best option
[00:09] <damo22> why
[00:09] <ikonia> usr13: don't just give random stuff, he wants to sell a phone this is a.) nothing to do with #ubuntu b.) nothing to do with a product that has no information on it
[00:09] <damo22> i am a ubuntu user since it began
[00:09] <ikonia> damo22: this channel is for ubuntu support and if you're not using / interested in Ubuntu due to it's "spyware" it may not be a good channel for you
[00:09] <damo22> i dont like the way it has evolved into a spying tool for amazon
[00:10] <ikonia> damo22: well, it's not
[00:10] <ikonia> damo22: you can use/not use the lense
[00:10] <ikonia> it's up to you
[00:10] <ikonia> but if you don't like it, I suggest not using it
[00:10] <usr13> ikonia: I did not give random stuff.  I tried to get him to clarify what he wanted to know from us and to ask if there was something in it relating to ubuntu.
[00:11] <ikonia> usr13: he wants to swap an iphone...nothing to do with this channel
[00:11] <slestak> hello
[00:11] <blackshirt> hello slestak
[00:11] <usr13> ikonia: My point exactly.
[00:11] <damo22> what i have to say is relevant to all users of software
[00:11] <ikonia> damo22: no, it's not
[00:11] <slestak> anyone using a recent ati card with wine or playonlinux?
[00:11] <ikonia> damo22: so please, don't want to hear anything more about this spyware nonsense
[00:11] <slestak> trying to decide if i want to use fglrx-updates or download from ati.com
[00:11] <blackshirt> slestak, not yet... I dont have ati card
[00:11] <usr13> damo22: But this is #ubuntu and the topic is support for #ubuntu
[00:12] <ikonia> slestak: #winehq may have a wider audience for that ?
[00:12] <slestak> good point, tyvm
[00:12] <damo22> it is not nonsense: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/
[00:14] <shwouchk_> ikonia, you are wrong!
[00:14] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[00:14] <ikonia> shwouchk_: ?
[00:14] <slestak> think i will try fglrx-updates first
[00:14] <shwouchk_> ikonia, you should not have spoken as you did to damo
[00:15] <ikonia> shwouchk_: thanks
[00:15] <blackshirt> damo22, i think thats can be disabled
[00:15] <ikonia> shwouchk_: if you wish to complain, please take it to #ubuntu-ops
[00:15] <pr0ph3t> I have a problem with the grave key, the one above tab, it works intermittently
[00:16] <pr0ph3t> I have to press it twice for it to work, anyone else got this problem? Running Gnome-shell ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[00:18] <Septima> usr13: not working for me
[00:19] <Septima> i'd like something like tcptrack, but with a user filter
[00:19] <shwouchk_> for some reason I can see only a couple of buttons in the "system settings". What could be causing it?
[00:20] <usr13> Septima: Just a sec...
[00:21] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[00:22] <FuriousGeorge> i have a sharp network printer.  when I try to launch sharp's linux installer it says i must be root and closes
[00:22] <usr13> There is a GUI front end for tcpdump... memory fails me... anyone???
[00:22] <usr13> hint --- it's cross-platform
[00:22] <FuriousGeorge> im logged on as the adminsitrator account on Kubuntu.  the root account is disabled by default IIRC
[00:22] <Septima> FuriousGeorge: you tried running it with sudo?
[00:23] <FuriousGeorge> Septima, no thanks for reminding me
[00:24] <usr13> Septima: There is wireshark (but that's not the one I was trying to think of....)
[00:25] <daftykins> usr13: are you thinking of tcpdump?
[00:27] <xomniverse> I'm trying to do a network installation of Ubuntu, and it says I need "rt2561s.bin" for my wifi during installation. I've placed this file on two different removable media (a usb stick and an mp3 player I had lying around) and it will not read it
[00:27] <xomniverse> it just keeps asking me to insert the media with this file
[00:27] <xomniverse> both devices are formatted to FAT32 and contain nothing but the rt2561s.bin file
[00:30] <usr13> daftykins: No, it's like a GUI front end for it.  It's cross platform....
[00:30] <eGetin> how did you create the image xomniverse?
[00:30] <usr13> daftykins: I used to have it on the PC next to me here but I guess I took it off....
[00:31] <daftykins> =[
[00:31] <usr13> ...or I don't have a gui launcher for it.
[00:31] <usr13> I think it's on my laptop.
[00:32] <usr13> ethereal
[00:34] <daftykins> usr13: that's just the old name for wireshark
[00:35] <usr13> Septima: I guess that ethereal is now Wireshark.  Maybe that is of some  use.  I dono.  Sorry for the loss of memory, and I guess that is why, it is deprecated.
[00:36] <usr13> daftykins: Thank you
[00:36] <Septima> yeah, ethereal got renamed to wireshark
[00:36] <Septima> i'll give it a go
[00:36] <daftykins> usr13: np :)
[00:36] <usr13> daftykins: Septima I guess that is why I erased it from my memory. ;0
[00:37] <daftykins> :)
[00:37] <usr13> I think I just never really connected the dots.
[00:39] <usr13> My brain is rather warped, (especially when it comes to meory - I have extensive notes, but sometimes they is hard to parse, especially if its just not there).
[00:41] <usr13> ethereal was always a difficult name, (to remember correctly).
[00:44] <nashant> is it normal to have 'errors=remount-ro' for / in fstab? And does it mean that I have errors if it's then ro when I boot?
[00:47] <daftykins> nashant: it mounts it read only if errors are detected i think yeah
[00:47] <jrib> nashant: and yes it's normal
[00:47] <nashant> jrib, daftykins: how do I then find the errors?
[00:49] <nashant> also, if I install/remove stuff in the live usb installation are they there/not in the installed env?
[00:49] <daftykins> nashant: you ideally run a livecd/usb and run fsck on that partition
[00:49] <daftykins> nashant: nah live environment is totally separate
[00:52] <HodgerWWWChAn> j;sa
[00:57] <cornfeed> does anyone know if kubuntu has the same amazon issue?
[00:57] <ikonia> cornfeed: amazon issue ?
[00:58] <daftykins> cornfeed: the sending searches? nah no idea
[00:58] <cornfeed> daftykins: yes
[00:59] <ikonia> I don't think kubuntu uses the lense
[00:59] <cornfeed> ikonia: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=ubuntu+amazon&cat=web&pl=chrome&language=english
[00:59] <ikonia> cornfeed: that's not an issue
[00:59] <ikonia> thats one man's iew
[01:00] <ikonia> cornfeed: to answer your question though, I don't think kubuntu uses the lense
[01:00] <cornfeed> lense?
[01:00] <ikonia> cornfeed: the lense is what causes the search results
[01:00] <ikonia> and I don't think kubuntu uses it
[01:00] <ikonia> cornfeed: if you join #kubuntu someone can confirm if it uses the amazon lense
[01:00] <cornfeed> sorry, i am just making my way back into desktops....i have been working on servers for a number of years using windows as a desktop
[01:00] <cornfeed> indeed. i didnt think there would be a #kubutu channel
[01:00] <jokke> hi, how can i resume a podcast in rhythmbox where i left it?
[01:01]  * cornfeed is off :-)
[01:03] <drknzz> Hey guys, just updated my kernel and reinstalled the latest beta amd driver but the testing watermark wont go away (i used a script that worked on the previous kernel), any thoughts? 12.10 x64
[01:03] <jokke> if this isn't possible, rhythmbox sucks for podcasts.
[01:05] <txanonxh> How many of you are booting with a UEFI MB ?
[01:05] <thioshp> hello
[01:05] <blackshirt> hello
[01:08] <nashant> daftykins: I've tried 'fsck /dev/sda3' and it shows no errors
[01:09] <sandprickle> I'd like to play w/ Ubuntu Server in a VM... should I use 12.04 or 12.10?
[01:09] <daftykins> nashant: so what's happening, you boot and can't do much?
[01:09] <nashant> exactly
[01:09] <H4CK3R> Un Saluto A Tutti!!!
[01:11] <nyl> hi
[01:11] <Noskcaj> nyl: hello
[01:12] <nyl> is gnome 2 still arround
[01:12] <nyl> ?
[01:12] <ikonia> no
[01:12] <ikonia> it's dead
[01:12] <nyl> :(
[01:12] <Noskcaj> nyl: linux mint uses branches of it if thats what you mean
[01:12] <nyl> i wanted gnome 2
[01:12] <twig11> nyl: I think Mate is the attempted reincarnation of gnome 2.
[01:12] <nyl> for my dads laptop
[01:12] <Noskcaj> twig11, it is
[01:13] <ikonia> nyl: #ubuntu 10.04 still has gnome 2
[01:13] <ikonia> Ubuntu 10.04 sorry
[01:13] <nyl> to install win7 transformation pack
[01:13] <Noskcaj> nyl: if you need it to look like win7 get zorin (#Zorinos
[01:13] <ikonia> nyl: Ubuntu 10.04 maybe an option
[01:13] <nyl> zorin has issues with ati drivers
[01:14] <ikonia> or other distros that still push gnome 2
[01:14] <ikonia> just keep in mind as a project it's dead
[01:14] <nyl> when i install the drivers it crashes compiz
[01:14] <Noskcaj> nyl,  then lubuntu can be called close enough but see if mate supports what you want
[01:14] <Raspootis> evening
[01:14] <Noskcaj> why install the extra drivers?
[01:15] <nyl> i tried it doesn't work
[01:15] <ikonia> nyl: you maybe out of luck then
[01:15] <ikonia> nyl: give ubuntu 10.04 a go
[01:15] <nyl> it finds it not supported
[01:15] <Noskcaj> nyl, ok, remember there are many different drivers available
[01:15] <nyl> i guess i gonna have to install 10.04 as last solution
[01:15] <nyl> :D
[01:15] <ikonia> nyl: nothing wron with 10.04
[01:15] <Raspootis> Is a Pentium<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with 1GB of ram enough to run Ubuntu 12 comfortably?
[01:16] <ikonia> still has a good few years of support left
[01:16] <ikonia> Raspootis: more depends on the video card
[01:16] <tripelb> Can't I put gnome2 on 12.04?
[01:16] <Raspootis> sudo apt-get gnome-classic?
[01:17] <Noskcaj> Raspootis, ubuntu maybe, if it doesn't try lubuntu or xubuntu
[01:17] <tripelb> Nexus 7 can run 12.04 !! And I plan to put it on. Using the 7 now.
[01:17] <Raspootis> is lubuntu gnome based? I know xubuntu is xfce
[01:17] <Noskcaj> tripelb, yes it can, if at all possible help with testing it as we need more people
[01:17] <Noskcaj> Raspootis, xfce
[01:17] <sandprickle> nyl: Mate is pretty much exactly like Gnome 2. I haven't tried to install it on Ubuntu tho.
[01:18] <Noskcaj> Raspootis, sorry, lxde
[01:18] <Raspootis> I guess if I want a lightweight gnome ubuntu i go for linux mint
[01:18] <nyl> http://www.howtogeek.com/55985/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7/
[01:18] <tripelb> I came in to ask if there was anyone with experience with putting Ubuntu on the nexus 7. The Ubuntu site has directions. Can dual boot as well.
[01:18] <nyl> i try this right now
[01:18] <ikonia> nyl: I'd advise caution with any howtokeek.com link
[01:18] <dr_willis> tripelb:  i think theres a specific channel for that. or in #ubuntu-arm
[01:18] <Noskcaj> tripelb, someone in #ubuntu-quality will i forget who though
[01:19] <ikonia> geek
[01:19] <Noskcaj> and yes
[01:19] <Raspootis> main question is
[01:19] <tripelb> Noskcaj: count me in. I have to learn how to interact with the reporting pages. (Is that github?)
[01:19] <Raspootis> at school I fixed up an old pc, installed ubuntu on it
[01:19] <Raspootis> can I bring in packages/applications on a flash drive, I don't have network access
[01:19] <Noskcaj> trijntje, join the channel and i will talk to you there
[01:20] <tripelb> Drjoin ubuntu-quality right?
[01:20] <dr_willis> Raspootis:  you can - but it may be a pain to get all the depencies
[01:20] <dr_willis> !aptoncd | Raspootis
[01:20] <Noskcaj> trijntje, type /j #Ubuntu-Quality
[01:21] <Raspootis> Ah, fantastic
[01:21]  * Raspootis works for flash media, too?
[01:22] <Raspootis> thanks for the help, ubuntu
[01:22] <nyl> gettin ubuntu 10.04.4
[01:22] <Raspootis> I'm guessing that ubuntu will be good to expirement with for learning linux, provided i install gnome
[01:22] <dr_willis> Raspootis:  ubuntu has gnome on it allready. unity is a shell for gnome3
[01:23] <Raspootis> I meant ubuntu gnome-classic/gnome2
[01:23] <nyl> yea
[01:23] <dr_willis> I wouldent even bother with the gnome-classic/fallback stuff..
[01:23] <nyl> it ha gnome 3 classic
[01:23] <nyl> to be precise
[01:23] <nyl> xD
[01:23] <dr_willis> if you want an old-skool desktop. use lubuntu, or kubuntu
[01:23] <ikonia> ubuntu 10.04 will do what you want
[01:23] <dr_willis> assuming 10.04 supports your hardware
[01:24] <ikonia> I don't understand why you are not just installing that as it is a genuine supported gnome 2 distro
[01:24] <Ghostd0g> hey folks, I am wanting to do a very minmal ubuntu install, I have downloaded Unetbootin and the minimal cd image (11.10 x64 mini.iso),   I have ran the Unetbootin software to put the iso on the usb stick .. but for some reason it wont boot,  I have been able to get it to but from another stick with the full ubuntu ... is there a way i can turn the full version to the minimal ?
[01:25] <Ghostd0g> the machine has no cd drive
[01:25] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: just remove what you don't want
[01:26] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: install ubuntu and remove anything you don't need
[01:26] <CavalierPrime> ghostd0g or install the server version
[01:26] <Ghostd0g> Ikonia : the full install doesnt seem to have a "custom" install option... and to install it all first .. and start triming .. thats a pita i would like to advoid
[01:27] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: should be reasonable quick
[01:27] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: most of the bulk software will go in a few clicks
[01:27] <Ghostd0g> server version ... perfect
[01:27] <jrib> Ghostd0g: have you checked the wiki?  There are alternatives to unetbootin that may work better
[01:27] <elena-IK> are there any drop-down terminals beside guake, yakuake and tilda?
[01:27] <ikonia> I'd advise against the server version
[01:27] <jrib> !install > Ghostd0g
[01:27] <Ghostd0g> have not checked the wiki yet
[01:28] <ikonia> ubottu should have just sent you a private message with some good links too
[01:28] <dr_willis> Theres some issues with the server editions on Pen/flash drives
[01:28] <Ghostd0g> Jrib: thanx
[01:28] <Ghostd0g> CavalierPrime : Thank you as well
[01:28] <Ghostd0g> and thank you Ikonia
[01:29] <Ghostd0g> :)
[01:30] <nyl> i would try zorinos
[01:30] <nyl> they had pure windows 7 clone theme
[01:31] <ikonia> who ?
[01:31] <ikonia> why ?
[01:31] <nyl> now they changed it a lil
[01:31] <ikonia> nyl: who are you talking to ?
[01:31] <ikonia> nyl: no-one is asking about a windows 7 theme apart fom you
[01:31] <nyl> to not look like win 7
[01:31] <ikonia> we've told you 10.04 supports gnome 2, that's about as far as this channel can take you
[01:31] <nyl> but hey my dad is uber retarded
[01:32] <ikonia> nyl: there is no need for that, stop it please.
[01:32] <nyl> ok
[01:32] <nyl> :))
[01:32] <ikonia> thank you
[01:33] <nyl> okay writing ubuntu 10.4
[01:33] <nyl> can i still update kernel and install latest graphics drivers on it
[01:33] <nyl> ?
[01:34] <ikonia> why do you want to do that ?
[01:34] <ikonia> nyl: use what ubuntu 10.04 provides
[01:34] <nyl> ok ok
[01:34] <nyl> my dad wants to use windows xp as vm
[01:34] <ikonia> you can do that
[01:35] <nyl> this laptop is crap when comes to using it for work since all his accounting crap
[01:35] <nyl> mostly run under msdos
[01:35] <ikonia> how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[01:35] <nyl> lolololol
[01:35] <Ghostd0g> !automate
[01:35] <Ghostd0g> woops
[01:35] <Ghostd0g> wron window
[01:36] <nyl> and i told the guy that made the program to recompile it for windows
[01:36] <ikonia> nyl: not interestged
[01:36] <ikonia> nyl: this channel is here to help you with ubuntu
[01:36] <ikonia> that's all
[01:36] <blackshirt> nyl, maybe you want to go to #windows
[01:36] <nyl> can msdos programs be easly compiled to run on windows
[01:36] <nyl> fuuuuck
[01:36] <nyl> sry
[01:37] <nyl> on linux
[01:37] <ikonia> bad lag, sorry
[01:37] <blackshirt> nyl, no ...
[01:38] <Ghostd0g> was he really that "smrt" .. or just trolling lol
[01:38] <blackshirt> nyl, you should porting it
[01:38] <ikonia> blackshirt: he's gone
[01:45] <gris11> does anyone know how to format my disk drive to NFTS?
[01:46] <blackshirt> gris11, mkfs.ntfs .... Check it manual
[01:46] <dr_willis> gris11:  gparted can do it with a nice gui.
[01:46] <gris11> blackshirt do I just write that in the terminal?
[01:47] <gris11> tried gparted i got a pv volume
[01:47] <Ghostd0g> whats a good rule of thumb for swap space.. or do i even need a swap partion anymore .. been awhile sine i played with linux
[01:48] <gris11> blackshirt: dr_willis check http://i.imgur.com/x8bLt.png
[01:49] <blackshirt> !swap | ghostd0g
[01:50] <Deivid> Hello, I just installed vlc 2.0.5 and I can't find dbus anymore, the option used to be in "Control Interfaces" option
[01:50] <Deivid> anyone have any idea about it?
[01:51] <mrhyde> anyone know if there is a fix to the 3d acceleration for ubuntu 12.10 on virtualbox?
[01:52] <dr_willis> gris11:  i dont have a browser handy..  and i dont know what your actual problem is either.
[01:53] <blackshirt> mrhyde, your hw should capable running 3d
[01:53] <mrhyde> blackshirt: what....
[01:54] <blackshirt> mrhyde, your graphics should capable of running 3d ...
[01:55] <mrhyde> blackshirt: the latest ubuntu seems to drop old graphics incapable of running on virtual box guest additions so it runs slow and uses processing power to render 3d
[02:02] <mspencer> Hi, I'm interested in trying out GNOME Boxes, but it only exists in the repositories for amd64, but my OS is i386. Is there a reason for there not being an i386 version? I'm planning on building it from the apt-get source but just wanted to check this first.
[02:03] <Benn> How do you control screen brightness on Kubuntu. This is a desktop.
[02:08] <paris> Hi folks! How can I uninstall google-talk-plugin?
[02:09] <mspencer> A better way of wording that would be is there any reason why I shouldn't build GNOME Boxes on i386 from the sources retrieved with apt-get source?
[02:22] <fishbait_XXX> how do i find out the version of my kerenel and force it to install headers with the kernel updates?
[02:24] <fishbait_XXX> how do i find install headers for my kernel
[02:24] <dr_willis> !headers
[02:24] <fishbait_XXX> ty]
[02:25] <fishbait_XXX> now how do i automate that for every kernel update?
[02:25] <dr_willis> never noticed.
[02:26] <dr_willis> I think it does it after you install it.
[02:26] <fishbait_XXX> because it didn't install them this time which in turn broke my nvidia drivers
[02:26] <dr_willis> hmm.. never broke my nvidia drivers.. You using the .run drivers? or from the repos?
[02:27] <fishbait_XXX> repos and added ubuntu-x-swat... repos too
[02:27] <dr_willis> No idea then. I dont use the x-swat repos  I dont think the nvidia drivers normally need the kernel headers
[02:28] <fishbait_XXX> they need the headers to compile the kernel modules
[02:29] <fishbait_XXX> however you don't notice b/c it puts them in dkms which auto-recompiles on updates but they need the headers for each version to do so
[02:31] <fishbait_XXX> hence i need to include the headers in each kernel update the question is how to do so
[02:32] <dr_willis> You may want to check the askubuntu.com site. ive not heard of anyone else having this issue. but people using the xswat are not really commonplace. :)
[02:33] <rotham> hey.. im looking for upstart scripts to run supervisord... i found this article:  http://edvanbeinum.com/how-to-install-and-configure-supervisord and im wondering if the one at the bottom there looks good.. i wasnt sure what this did  'start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec $SUPERVISORD ', or why its hitting sshd.pid whatever that is...
[02:36] <Ghostd0g> ok so just completed the full install of ubuntu 12.10.. where do i go to uninstall all the crap i dont want
[02:36] <[o]> lol
[02:36] <[o]> start with a minimal install
[02:36] <[o]> then work up not down
[02:36] <Ghostd0g> tried that
[02:36] <[o]> no you didn't, else you wouldn't be asking said silly question
[02:36] <Ghostd0g> the mini.iso wont make a bootabl usb
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> and the box doesnt have a cd
[02:37] <[o]> hmm, the mini iso doesn't make a bootable, you sure?
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> yep
[02:37] <[o]> you could just dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/usbKey
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> tried it multiple times
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> unless it the usb stack ?
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> sick
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> stick
[02:38] <[o]> :)
[02:38] <[o]> dd'ing to the stick should be fine
[02:38] <[o]> it could be, and i think this is where you're going, your issue is the usb stick
[02:38] <[o]> do you have a usb-cdrom ? (easiest solution)
[02:38] <Ghostd0g> no
[02:38] <Ghostd0g> i might go with a server install
[02:38] <Septima> not all usb flash drives are bootable
[02:39] <[o]> whats your end goal Ghostd0g ?
[02:39] <dr_willis> or else hes booting the wrong devic3..
[02:39] <dr_willis> or the iso was bad...
[02:39] <[o]> i think this calls for "It Depends" (tm)
[02:41] <Septima> Ghostd0g: i'm with dr_willis on this, you should make sure you're selecting it properly as the boot device
[02:42] <ProfessorBacon> blarlblbalbabplabablpabrb
[02:42] <Ghostd0g> I did eve disable all other boot devices save for the usb stick in the bios
[02:43] <Septima> Ghostd0g: did you md5sum the image?
[02:43] <Ghostd0g> end goal is a lean linux instal that i can run xbmc on it
[02:43] <Ghostd0g> Septima : no i did not ..
[02:44] <[o]> Ghostd0g, go with freebsd then
[02:44] <Septima> it's actually sha1 for the minimal.. the hashes are listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:45] <Septima> there's a Xbmcbuntu; i can't speak for it though
[02:45] <mspencer> I'm interested in trying out GNOME Boxes, but there isn't a i386 package for it. Is it possible to build it from the source retrieved using apt-get? I'm getting errors when trying to build it using 'debuild -us -uc -i -I': http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449124/.
[02:45] <mspencer> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10, i386.
[02:46] <Format1> Hello does anyone know how to format an encrypted logical volume?
[02:47] <Format1> Hello does anyone know how to format an encrypted logical volume?
[02:48] <Septima> Format1: the same way you format any other volume; do you have a more specific question?
[02:49] <Format1> Septima: i don't seem to be able to do it.. i have tried to format directly from disk utility, no luck...
[02:49] <Format1> i have tried gparted.. same thing
[02:49] <Septima> does it give you an error?
[02:49] <Format1> Septima: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[02:50] <DrGrov> Is there any ideas on how to improve Unity + Compiz in 12.04? It seems to freeze up on me from time to time and takes almost ages to get back to normal window moving.
[02:52] <Septima> Format1: is it an SD card?
[02:52] <Format1> nope, its my HDD internal
[02:53] <Ghostd0g> Septima : Sha1 hash matches
[02:54] <Septima> Ghostd0g: then i'd try redoing the usb flash with dd or unetbootin
[02:54] <Septima> Format1: it looks like a known bug
[02:54] <Frogzilla> Is it possible to install a VM of Windows 7 on Ubuntu 12.04 Server through just console or will I need to apt-get ubuntu-desktop and remote in to my server and do it through VirtualBox GUI?
[02:54] <Ghostd0g> Septima : yep redoing with the know working usb stick
[02:55] <Septima> Format1: have you tried deleting the partition and recreating it?
[02:56] <Format1> i don't seem to be able to do it via gparted..
[02:56] <Format1> all options are in gray
[02:56] <Septima> Format1: is there anything else on the drive?
[02:56] <Format1> nope.. just the encrypted logical drive with ubunto 12.10 installed
[02:57] <Frogzilla> Is it possible to install a VM of Windows 7 on Ubuntu 12.04 Server through just console or will I need to apt-get ubuntu-desktop and remote in to my server and do it through VirtualBox GUI?
[02:57] <RiXtEr> welcome waleedsaud
[02:57] <Format1> Septima: http://i.imgur.com/ibEW3.png
[02:57] <Septima> Format1: then you could do a factory erase with the drive manufacturer's utilities or a secure erase using dd on the entire drive
[02:57] <Septima> Format1: apparently the bug only occurs when there's a partition table there
[02:57] <Jeremy_USweets> Hello all! I have a problem printing a pdf from ubuntu with lp
[02:58] <Jeremy_USweets> I try to print with lp test.pdf
[02:58] <Format1> so what u suggest?
[02:58] <Jeremy_USweets> And it prints to the printer, unfortunately it prints the pdf scaled to an a4 page
[02:58] <Jeremy_USweets> I would like it to remain un-expanded.
[02:59] <Septima> Format1: either one should work
[02:59] <Septima> Format1: the manufacturer's utility might have a fast erase
[02:59] <Format1> a secure erase using dd on the entire drive <- dd?
[03:00] <Format1> so i hit the BIOS and look for the erease option.. hmmm then the drive will be formated to what NFTS?
[03:01] <Septima> Format1: no, it's not in the bios
[03:02] <Septima> Format1: you'd download a cd from your drive manufacturer.. or alternatively use a program called DBAN, which i've used and liked in the past
[03:02] <Septima> or you can just zero the whole thing with dd
[03:02] <Format1> dd?
[03:02] <Frogzilla> Is there a better channel for
[03:02] <Frogzilla> Ubuntu Server support?
[03:03] <Septima> !dd
[03:03] <Septima> well worth a try.. i don't think there's a ubuntu manual page on it
[03:03] <Septima> i can give you the command, but you need to be careful with it
[03:03] <Septima> do a fdisk -l to make sure you're looking at the right drive before you run it
[03:04] <Septima> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/cough, replacing caugh with the reference to your entire disk
[03:04] <Septima> lol i spelled it caugh..
[03:04] <gogeta> rawr
[03:06] <Septima> you might be able to just run that for like 2 minutes, hit ctrl + c to break it's execution then gparted will let you recreate the partition
[03:06] <Septima> if you don't want to wait for it to actually zero everything
[03:06] <gogeta> Septima do what
[03:07] <Ghostd0g> Septima : no dice the mini.iso(12.10 x64) wont boot from usb ... trying to play with grub to see if i can change something
[03:07] <Frogzilla> exit
[03:07] <Septima> Ghostd0g: yeah, could be that the drive just isn't bootable
[03:07] <gogeta> Ghostd0g: i have ran that off usb before
[03:07] <Ghostd0g> the stick is the same stick i used for full install that worked fine
[03:08] <gogeta> Ghostd0g: i just used unetbootin to dump the usb on a usb stick
[03:08] <Septima> odd
[03:08] <gogeta> iso
[03:08] <Format2> Septima: i couln't boot dban cd wtf...
[03:08] <Ghostd0g> Gogeta : that the tool i used
[03:08] <Septima> Format2: yeah, sometimes it doesn't boot on some hardware unfortunetly.. for the most part it does
[03:08] <gogeta> Format2: check your bios settings and some have hotkeys to bring up a boot menu
[03:09] <Ghostd0g> I am now thinking of extracting the iso and using wingrub to make it bootable
[03:09] <Septima> yeah, of course make sure you're selecting it as the boot device
[03:10] <Format2> like making the cd boot option to the top?
[03:10] <gogeta> Format2: yes
[03:10] <Format2> k
[03:10] <Format2> brb
[03:10] <Septima> Format2: that or there should be a key you can hit to get a boot menu
[03:10] <Format2> i know how to reach the boot menu.. it just did't load dban
[03:11] <gogeta> Format2: you slect cdrom lol
[03:11] <Septima> Format2: i'd try the bios as well.. i've seen stuff not boot through the menu but boot through the bios list
[03:11] <gogeta> Format2: we are not talking abought grub heh
[03:11] <Format2> gogeta: i didn't.. -.-' there's only hdd, CD, network etc..
[03:12] <gogeta> Format2: yea hit cd from there
[03:12] <Format2> Septima: is there any other way to fully erease the hdd other then dban
[03:12] <Septima> Format2: use dd or your drive manufacturer's utility
[03:12] <Format2> care to explain whats dd lol
[03:12] <gogeta> Format2: i beleve gparted has a secure format option
[03:13] <Dexx1_> Hi guys -- trying to get my brother/parents to replace windows 8 with ubuntu --- Is there a lightweight version or pretty much the latest release will do the trick?  Its just a gui ..and a better gui than the confusing mess of win 8
[03:16] <ikonia> Dexx1_: is it worth peraps letting them run on a livecd for a while to see if they like it ?
[03:16] <Dexx1_> ikonia: yea,,, except that doesnt work either...it hangs at a black screen
[03:17] <chintanparikh> Hey people, after I installed fglxr, my Gnome Shell turned into Gnome Classic. Anyone know why?
[03:17] <Dexx1_> (the computer is brand new--- so I don't know how ubuntu deals with drivers for new machines)
[03:17] <ikonia> Dexx1_: ok, so......it may not have the best hardware support for what you want
[03:17] <ikonia> Dexx1_: worth a little more research before rushing in
[03:17] <Septima> Dexx1_: maybe it's a bad burn of the disk or has some issue with that uefi junk
[03:18] <chintanparikh> Dexx1_: What's your issue? I just fixed a bunch of black screen issues on my machine
[03:18] <Septima> chintanparikh: it's black screening after selecting either option on the live cd
[03:18] <Septima> install or try
[03:19] <chintanparikh> Dexx1_: Same thing was happening to me, I ket rebooting and trying, took like 4 tries
[03:19] <Septima> chintanparikh: did you burn your disc at a fast speed?
[03:19] <Dexx1_> chintanparikh: well... my brother just boot into ubuntu and tried both options (try ubuntu/install ubuntu) -- they both lead to a blank/black screen
[03:20] <andrewaclt> Should I go ATI or Geforce these days?
[03:20] <chintanparikh> Dexx1_: Ah, in that case its probably your disk
[03:20] <andrewaclt> s/Geforce/nvidia
[03:20] <Dexx1_> chintanparikh: I wonder if ubuntu supports his graphics etc? the computer is brand new
[03:20] <Septima> according to phronix or however it's said that reviews all the hardware stuff in light of linux, you should go nvidia
[03:21] <chintanparikh> andrewaclt: Go with nvidia. I've just been dealing with a tonne of issues because of my Radeon card
[03:21] <Septima> i heard amd/ati laid off a bunch of their linux guys
[03:21] <ElectricPrism> Septima: I heard they laid off all of them
[03:21] <Septima> and closed down their os research division
[03:21] <Dexx1_> how can I be sure that the new computer's hardware supports ubuntu?
[03:22] <chintanparikh> Has anyone ever experienced gnome shell turning into gnome classic? I installed the proprietary amd drivers and it stopped unity working and turned gnome shell into gnome classic
[03:22] <ikonia> not really an #ubuntu topic guys
[03:22] <Septima> you'll definitely have longer support on nvidia.. amd/ati just whacked support for the 2000s, 3000s, and 4000s HD cards
[03:22] <OerHeks> Dexx1_, boot the iso in live mode
[03:23] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Agreed, Nvidia has always been better in *nix, also they just beefed up their 310 driver for Steam Linux
[03:23] <andrewaclt> Septima, I see I have a ati 5650 or something and I think it died on me
[03:23] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: every other component when custom built is generally supported, AMD / Intel you can't go wrong, also Asus motherboard of EVGA is good
[03:23] <andrewaclt> either that or my botherboard pci express port died
[03:24] <Septima> i don't care for evga, but i'll second the asus
[03:24] <ElectricPrism> Q: I need to share files between Linux and Windows, I would rather use EXT4 than NTFS, is there a way to use EXT4 in windows?
[03:24] <Septima> ElectricPrism: i seem to remember some really buggy thing that supported it on windows 7
[03:25] <Septima> but you'd probably be better off sticking with ntfs
[03:25] <chintanparikh> `ElectricPrism: Yeah, there's an Ext4 reader program for Windows,]. Buggy as hell though, kept messing up whenever it was a large file
[03:26] <ElectricPrism> Septima, chintanparikh: I've been recovering 1 million files from my NTFS for the last 5 days because the disk partition destabalized and then windows chkdisk destryed the $MFT QQML, but I really need some kind of compatability
[03:27] <Septima> i still use ntfs for my storage drive that used to be on windows
[03:28] <Septima> when i get some space to move things off, i'll reformat it ext4 though
[03:28] <andrewaclt> Septima, do you know if you need anything special for dual heads for nVidia?
[03:28] <chintanparikh> When I select Gnome 3 from the profile bit in the login options, I get Gnome Classic. Any idea how to fix this?
[03:29] <ElectricPrism> Amen, I just wish there was a compatability bridge so it'd make the migration smoother, I want to live In linux, but sometimes I still have to work in windows and even new FS like btrfs offer me no new advantages over EXT4
[03:29] <Septima> andredieb: not sure, from what i've heard of others, the dual displays work ok.. but if you start getting into the quads and such you run into issues
[03:30] <Septima> chintanparikh: no idea, that's weird to say the least
[03:30] <ElectricPrism> andredieb: I had a tripple display and had issues, went back to dual. Anything above dual is difficult to get working in my experience
[03:30] <chintanparikh> Septima: Yeah 12.10 has been giving me headaches for hours. I've literally spent the entire day today trying to get it working
[03:30] <chintanparikh> Septima: Tried reinstalling Gnome, but no luck. I'm at a loss for what to do
[03:31] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt: You shouldn't do, multi-head should work out of the box
[03:31] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, ok cool, have a card recommendation too? :)
[03:31] <Crell> Hi folks.  I have a very old Hardy server install.  How much pain am I in for if I try to upgrade it straight to 12.10?
[03:31] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt: depends what you want, I use a nVidia 660TI
[03:32] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, I just want a lot of terminals :)
[03:32] <Crell> It's not a high-priority server.  Mostly just a file server at this point since I no longer use the mail server on it.
[03:32] <Septima> Crell: i'd just fresh install
[03:32] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, kinda pricey for multiple terminals
[03:32] <Crell> That would be notably more work, I think. :-/
[03:32] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt, I think the GTX 260 has a pretty decent review, and good linux support.
[03:32] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, thoughts on the nVidia GeForce GT 610 ?
[03:33] <Ghostd0g> is there a netboot minimal ubuntu install... i cant get this damn usb to boot of a mini.iso
[03:33] <ElectricPrism> Crell: Launch the Live CD, run "$sudo nautilus /" and move the entire drive into a folder called "@ Hardy" Then install the new 12.04 Server without formatting the hard drive and see if you like it, then move the files into your install if you do
[03:34] <xangua> Crell: you can upgrade to 10.04 wich still has plenty of support for server (3 more years) and if you with you can upgrade to 12.04 after upgrading to 10.04
[03:34] <Crell> Server install, no nautilus.
[03:34] <Crell> xangua: That's more reliable than a single jump?
[03:35] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt the 610 will do what you want, but I think the 260 will be cheaper.
[03:36] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: if he gets into the live version of ubuntu fine, does that mean the hardware is OK to install?
[03:36] <Jeremy_USweets> While I'm being active, is there anyone here who can give me a hand with printing using *lp*?
[03:36] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, ah but the local store has the 610 for 49$ and is on the way home from work :)
[03:36] <Jeremy_USweets> At the moment, printing a pdf file results in it being scaled, which I don't want.
[03:37] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt, let me just look it up. I'd imagine it would work well for you.
[03:37] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Honestly it depends, I tried installing ElementaryOS (a derivative of Ubuntu) today on a laptop that works in Ubuntu and it didn't work, besides graphics I haven't ever had any driver issues with Linux, but I buy medium to high grade parts
[03:37] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, I have 1 hdmi and 1 vga
[03:37] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, so I think it should work right?
[03:38] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt, it looks like the 610 will be fine. NVidia historically has nice driver support.
[03:38] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt in my experience, yeah. It will be fine.
[03:38] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: this sucks.. he cannot get past the black screen -- booting back to windows, how can I check hardware compatibility quickly from within windows?
[03:38] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, okay thanks
[03:38] <Jeremy_USweets> @andrewaclt no problemo :)
[03:39] <claythompson> shot in the dark here, can anyone get "joe" cli editor to wordwrap?
[03:39] <Septima> Dexx1_: you might try burning another cd... at a slow rate of like x4
[03:39] <Septima> Dexx1_: wouldn't hurt to check the md5sums on the iso either
[03:40] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Are you saying the screen goes black when he starts the PC in 12.04? Because I had troubble with the Nvidia Noeau Open Driver, If he can Ctrl + Alt + F1, then he can install "$sudo apt-get install lynx" which will give him a terminal text browser to browse google and troubble shoot issues, whenever I run the NVIDIA-Installer from TTY1 it always has worked for me on my 260GTX and 460 Ti
[03:40] <Dexx1_> Septima: using a USB drive --- he doesnt have blank cd's.. I also did MD5sums
[03:40] <Septima> ElectricPrism: it's when he boots the live cd
[03:41] <Ghostd0g> ok where do i start uninstallin the crap i dont want now that ubuntu is installed
[03:41] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: ...well from the bootup screen he sees two options: try ubuntu/install ubuntu -- both gives them a black screen
[03:41] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: What kind of video card is it? You can find out in Windows by using a program called CPU-Z
[03:41] <Ghostd0g> never mind found it
[03:42] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: It may be that a resolution needs to be specified @ the bootloader as an option like vga=1280x1024, Ubuntu has never got my resolution right QQ
[03:42] <Septima> it maybe doesn't have a video card, since it's a new windows 8 machine
[03:44] <ElectricPrism> Septima: If it's an AMD motherboard they are starting to integrate the video into the CPU for sockets FM1, FM2 and they call it an APU I believe
[03:44] <Septima> 12.10 was released back in like what? october... so i'd imagine it has built in support for the intel graphics in the cpu stuffs
[03:44] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: hmm..good point, is there a easy way to change resolution?
[03:44] <Septima> yeah, and amd's equivalent
[03:44] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: let me see if I can find what I think will help in the Arch Wiki
[03:46] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: its running at 1920x1080
[03:46] <Dexx1_> (under windows)
[03:46] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I wonder if the resolution is below or at 600x800 if it won't display properly, I've had a horrible time with Ubuntu's boot usplash
[03:47] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I think this paragraph is relevant if you can set boot options on the Ubuntu Live start screen, I can't recall if you can or not off the top of my head: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub2#Visual_Configuration (assuming the boot screen uses grub I suppose)
[03:48] <Crell> Is there a list of which ubuntu numeric versions map to which names?
[03:48] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Actually, this info looks more relevant than the Arch Wiki here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[03:49] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: by the way, cpu z crashes in windows 8 :(
[03:50] <Septima> lol
[03:50] <ikonia> Dexx1_: doen't for me
[03:50] <Septima> try speccy
[03:50] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: x_x
[03:50] <WXZ1> ubuntu's not recognizing my samsung phone
[03:50] <Dexx1_> k
[03:50] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: If the computer is a brand name instead of custom built - we can find out if you have the model number and Speccy doesn't work
[03:51] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: it's this HP Pavillion Envy all in one crap
[03:51] <Dexx1_> they payed 400 bucks for it on black friday and it's a piece of junk right now
[03:52] <Dexx1_> I can't believe how much crap windows ships with these machines...haven't used windows in years and I am always surprised
[03:52] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I was thinking of buying that exact laptop on BF, my old HP DV2500 is going strong after 4 years, what's the model on the bottom?
[03:52] <Septima> hp puts a lot on there
[03:52] <Dexx1_> (it's not a laptop -- it's a desktop AFAIK -- a built in monitor thing)
[03:53] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: OK i'll try to google it
[03:53] <ikonia> Dexx1_: getting a bit tired of you slating windows
[03:53] <ikonia> and slating HP hardware
[03:53] <ikonia> and slating everything
[03:54] <Guest3649> hi
[03:55] <Guest3649> i need bit advice
[03:55] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I'm gonna assume it's a "hp envy 23-c010" for 800$ http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+ENVY+23%26%2334%3B+All-In-One+Computer+-+6GB+Memory+-+1.5TB+Hard+Drive/6983522.p?id=1218817850313&skuId=6983522&st=hp%20envy%20all%20in%20one&cp=1&lp=4
[03:55] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: yea that looks like it
[03:57] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: It might have a red ati sticker somewhere on it, If it matches the link I found on best buy then the graphics processor and cpu are combined into what they call an: APU, here's a link to newegg with the same graphics as the pc on best buy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113282
[03:57] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: ok speccy works , here we go: http://pastie.org/5550520
[03:57] <Guest3649> hi
[03:58] <Septima> hi Guest3649
[03:58] <Dexx1_> AMD Radeon HD 7540D --- that's the graphics driver..is that supported by Ubuntu?
[03:58] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Yeah, "AMD Radeon HD 7540D", so we know the computer is a Amd FM1 socket motherboard, and it probably uses UEFI since it's windows 8, Q: does anyone know of UEFI preventing Ubuntu from booting?
[03:59] <Septima> ElectricPrism: quite possibly
[03:59] <Guest3649> i need bit advice
[03:59] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I'll bet some money that you need to adjust your UEFI settings to allow Ubuntu to boot, ill try to find a revelant article
[04:00] <Septima> i haven't dealt with the uefi stuff yet; i've been avoiding it like the plague as much as possible.. but i think you can disable the boot protection in most builds by accessing the 'bios' and disabling it somewhere in there
[04:01] <ElectricPrism> Septima: Amen! I've been avoiding UEFI and Windows 8 like the plague, got me back into Linux lately
[04:01] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: honestly I have no idea what UEFI even is....is that adjustable via windows 8? also how is it effecting booting? I am sure people have had to dealt with it before right?
[04:02] <Septima> Dexx1_: when you turn the computer on, there should be something that says you can hit some key to access uefi or bios settings
[04:02] <Septima> Dexx1_: it's right after you power it on
[04:02] <Dexx1_> buntu-Secure-Remix-64bit ?
[04:02] <Dexx1_> *U
[04:03] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_ UEFI is new as of circa ~ 6 months, It replaces the BIOS, it's an interface where you can edit your settings within the first few seconds of boot, probably by pressing "Del", "Esc", "F1", or some other key that shows up on the screen, MS wants to lock you out from installing other OSes so they're making it hard for you to use non-windows on your computer
[04:03] <Dexx1_> yea Bios settings
[04:03] <Septima> Dexx1_: yeah in there somewhere.. there should be an option to disable boot security or some other 'terminology' for it
[04:04] <gogeta> ElectricPrism: me to but i knew not to let 8 tuch any of my systems
[04:05] <Dexx1_> Septima: k.let me look around... that sort of explains this issue
[04:05] <Septima> the way i understand it is, ubuntu would have to pay microsoft to give them some signature key that people can put into the uefi stuff to let ubuntu boot with the 'secure boot' stuff enabled
[04:05] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: strange..k at least we are onto something now
[04:06] <ElectricPrism> gogeta: I could rage on Windows 8 for days :)
[04:06] <Septima> canonical, to be exact
[04:06] <gogeta> Septima: they aruldy did buy keys for ufi
[04:06] <Septima> gogeta: any idea how to use them or where to get them?
[04:07] <oneseventeen> I'm trying to add myself to a new group I created... if I type sudo usermod -a -G webdev oneseventeen then type "groups" I don't see webdev listed.
[04:07] <ElectricPrism> Septima: I can't wait until all the free software on windows goes out of exitence because of the new MS digital signature costing money, it's gonna be sweet!
[04:07] <tree88> hi frens my hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl laptop 's right click is not working after i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 version please help me out
[04:07] <oneseventeen> (even though webdev and my username are both autocompleted as valid groups & usernames)
[04:07] <oneseventeen> thoughts?
[04:07] <tree88> hi frens my hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl laptop 's right click is not working after i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 version please help me out
[04:07] <ElectricPrism> pmeseventeen: Are you root?
[04:08] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: nope, but running everything via sudo
[04:08] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: ok..changed secure boot to <disabled> hopefully this'll work
[04:08] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: I'm no experet, but I would try "$usermod --help"
[04:09] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: Here's a page that looks like it might help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[04:09] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Cool, :-)
[04:10] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: but as far as the video card/graphics , it's all compatible right?
[04:10] <Dexx1_> (hardware)
[04:10] <tree88> hi frens my hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl laptop 's right click is not working after i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 version please help me out
[04:11] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: thanks, that is one of the articles I found a while back, I'm using the commands listed in it.
[04:11] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Yes, even if the exact model doesn't have a optimized driver all *nix needs to do is have a generic Radeon 7XXXD driver, which I'm sure it does
[04:11] <oneseventeen> I've done this on many ubuntu boxes which is why it is weird to me that it isn't working now...
[04:11] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: still black screen...:/ dang
[04:11] <gogeta> Septima: 12.10 and up should just work.
[04:11] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: Looks like the article is from 2006, hmm maybe we need a newer article
[04:11] <Dexx1_> he says he sees a :UFEI boot order and Legacy Boot Sources
[04:11] <Septima> gogeta: good to know
[04:12] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I wonder if you tried to live boot a different kind of distro if that would help you troubleshoot @ this point?
[04:13] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: let me try something else
[04:14] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: This article looks like it's from 2012 and ubuntu specific: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-add-user-to-group/
[04:14] <nydel> ehlo
[04:14] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: how about fast boot ?
[04:14] <Septima> Dexx1_: is there a purple screen that comes up with a keyboard and man type icon at the bottom?
[04:14] <WXZ1> ubuntu isn't mounting my coolpix cam
[04:15] <Dexx1_> Septima: nope
[04:15] <Dexx1_> Septima: the farthest I could get is "try ubuntu without installing" or "install ubuntu" ----then----> black screen
[04:15] <Septima> Dexx1_: this screen would be before that
[04:15] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Do you need to set your boot priority: normally motherboards do HDD, then CDROM, you need to confirm that in the UEFI that the order is CDROM and then HDD
[04:15] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: The screen looks like: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1354180067.png
[04:16] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: thanks, apparently somehow I'm in the group based on just typing "id oneseventeen"... I must be doing something wrong with my permissions
[04:16] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: Did you figure it out?
[04:17] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: weird..he says he sees those options, but no logo
[04:17] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: The screen prior to it looks like this: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/installation/live_cd_maverick1.png?cache=
[04:17] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: perhaps I need to try something like Ubuntu-Secure-Remix-64bit?
[04:18] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: nope... my group has write access to a folder, not sure why I can't create a file in it.
[04:18]  * oneseventeen is comparing folder settings with another ubuntu server he runs with the same settings.
[04:18] <Septima> Dexx1_: if he can get to that first screen shot there.. try hitting F6 and selecing nomodeset, then selecting install ubuntu
[04:19] <JPMH> hurst4359
[04:19] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Did he confirm that the boot order is CROM, HDD WesternDigital, External, Network and such
[04:19] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Oh, wait, but he does see the purple screen right?
[04:19] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: no he changed the boot order to reflect USB
[04:19] <ElectricPrism> Ah, yes
[04:19] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: nope..no purple screen
[04:20] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: maybe this is what I need? http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-secured/files/
[04:20] <oneseventeen> nevermind, for some reason I'm still not showing up in the group even with "id"... not sure where I saw it earlier.
[04:20] <ElectricPrism> USB devices need to be marked as "Active" for them to properly work as bootable devices, maybe he needs to set the USB partition as active?
[04:21] <R33p3R> need some help please, why apt-get repeats the same stuff 3 or 4 times ? this is making me update longgggggg... is there a way to remove those soures ? i can t find them on sources.list
[04:22] <Septima> R33p3R: there should be a sources editor some where in your settings manager
[04:22] <ElectricPrism> E33p3R: do you mean when you do "$apt-get update", maybe you have software sources listed twice and it's checking them more than once?
[04:23] <R33p3R> Septima: they don t exist in there...
[04:23] <R33p3R> nor or sources dir
[04:24] <ElectricPrism> R33p3R: Open Ubuntu Software Center and move your must to the invisible menu bar and look for "Software Sources" in the menu, there's a dialog with tabs and you can select repositorys, it could also be that one of the repos is really slow to download from
[04:24] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Did you figure out if the USB was marked as active? That's my next bet
[04:26] <oneseventeen> weird, if I type "id" it doesn't show my webdev group, if I type "groups" it does not show my webdev group
[04:26] <oneseventeen> if I type "groups oneseventeen" or "id oneseventeen" it does...
[04:26] <oneseventeen> I'm going to reboot
[04:26] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: the thing is..it reads the USB, but after selecting "try ubuntu"/"install ubuntu" -- that doesnt work.. goes to black screen
[04:26] <Dexx1_> gawd, I thought this was supposed to take like 30 mins max :P
[04:27] <Septima> Dexx1_: normally less
[04:27] <Septima> Dexx1_:  you sure that purple screen doesn't come up at any point?
[04:28] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Well then the partition is already active, so that's good, I would reccomend pressing F6 @ the "Install Ubuntu / Try Ubuntu" to see if you can start Ubuntu without the splash
[04:28] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: And if theres no F6 options then" F4 Modes"
[04:29] <Dexx1_> Septima: yea no purple stuff
[04:29] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: I wonder if Linux Mint would be a better option?
[04:29] <Dexx1_> Is it faster/easier to use for a beginner?
[04:30] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: This topic sounds like a similar issue, maybe the posts in it might reveal an answer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060908 . I don't really support any distro over any other, I personally use Sabayon and am planning on moving to Arch, ElementaryOS, or Ubuntu, Linux Mint has the Ubuntu Software Center since it's a derivative of Ubuntu
[04:31] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Linux is just one of those things that is superior once you get to know all of the software, but it's definately some work. It's more powerful than windows, but caters to computer users that like to be intelligent and really know their computer
[04:32] <saveTheWorld> purt in a different way,  you have to like computers to like Linux
[04:32] <saveTheWorld> put*
[04:34] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Try running the equivilent of the "Check disk for defects" as well, it can't hurt @ this point
[04:34] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: But really, the LiveCDs are a lot easier, I think most people still use them for that reason
[04:35] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: check disk also gives black screen
[04:35] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: what about Memtest86+ ?
[04:36] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Sounds like it's a UEFI issue again, he could try booting the USB on another computer to verrify the data and USB work properly if that helps weed out possabilities
[04:36] <Dexx1_> hmm
[04:38] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: According to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI it does look like you need the "Ubuntu-Secure-Remix", that may very well be the problem
[04:38] <KI4RO> .
[04:38] <Septima> ugh
[04:39] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: yea, im gonna try that and possibly linux mint
[04:39] <Septima> Dexx1_: you could also maybe try the network installer, since it uses text based setup: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads#alternate
[04:39] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Ok cool, hope it all works out for ya, I'm really excited for ElementaryOS, but it's in alpha at the moment, once it stabalises I think I'll move to it
[04:40] <Dexx1_> on linux mint (the one that ships with mate) -- I could still customize/change DE etc if i need to later righ?
[04:41] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: You can install different DE's and change a drop down menu on the login screen to change which DE you login to, it should be as simple as installing via terminal similar to: "$sudo apt-get install gnome-base gnome-shell, etc..."
[04:41] <rollitup> this is the day two of my desktop not booting , I do not get the boot options  and it goes to a prompt that says error : file not found grub rescue >
[04:41] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: dude...elementaryOS looks amazing
[04:42] <Septima> rollitup: try boot-repair
[04:42] <rollitup> i tried reinstalling the grub, updating it but still won't work
[04:42] <rollitup> Septima: also tried boot-repair but still get the same thing
[04:42] <rollitup> wonder whats going wrong here
[04:42] <rollitup> also this happened after i was trying to do a software update for ubuntu and the update crashed, I had to reboot the desktop and I started getting this error
[04:42] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I've tried Mate, Cinnamon, Gnome 3.4, KDE 4.9 and all of them have rough edges imo, Cinnamon isn't so bad. Yeah ElementaryOS forked Gnome3 into a new DE called "Pantheon", using it was literally amazing! but it didn't install on my laptop earlier today properly, I can't wait to use it.
[04:43] <Septima> rollitup: i assume you've checked the grub configuration and made sure it's pointing to the right partitions
[04:43] <rollitup> Septima: I have no idea about how to do that
[04:43] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: do this
[04:43] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: How are you partitions laid out? type $ls, we need to know if you have a seperate boot partition, root, home, and swap
[04:44] <rollitup> ok one moment
[04:45] <fulcan> how do I upgrade Samba the a release that may not be stable? I am using Version 4.0.0alpha18 and the alpha and a huge known issue and I need the beta
[04:45] <dlnaClient> anyone familiar with using vlc to stream usb webcam to other vlc players on the local network?
[04:45] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: there may be a samba unstable PPA @ launchpad.net
[04:46] <ElectricPrism> rollitup, did you get any output from "ls" yet?
[04:46] <rollitup> i have booted using the USB stick
[04:47] <rollitup> and doing ls just shows dir like Desktop, Documents etc
[04:47] <dlnaClient> I'm stuck, can't seem to get the stream, i have win 8 running vlc as server and ubuntu 12.04 trying to stream to, ideally I'd like to stream to tv
[04:47] <rollitup> I have two linux partitions besides the swap
[04:48] <ElectricPrism> rollitup, I thought you were @ "grub rescue>"
[04:48] <rollitup> ok ElectricPrism when doing ls at grub rescue gives nothing
[04:49] <rollitup> i had tried this yesterday
[04:49] <rollitup> also when doing help gives nothing on that prompt
[04:49] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: That's weird it supposed to list your hdd paritions like so (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1), ...etc
[04:49] <fulcan> ElectricPrism they do! How do I upgrade to it? samba4 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3
[04:50] <rollitup> perhaps thats why even after reinstalling grub umpteen times since yesterday i still see the same prompt upon booting
[04:50] <ElectricPrism> rollitup, assuming you knew which parition had your root you would do "$ set root=(hd0,msdos1)" "$set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub" "$ insmod normal" "$ normal" this would boot grub2 if the msdos1 parition contained your EXT4 filesystem
[04:51] <rollitup> should i do it at grub rescue > ?
[04:51] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: yes, you can also do ls (hd0,msdos1) to list the contents of "/"
[04:52] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: I know grub rescue is a pain in the ass, It took me a lot of dead distros to figure out those commands
[04:52] <rollitup> its a nightmare really
[04:52] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: do you know how to add a repo in the software center? You need to add "ppa:samba-team/ppa" to Software Sources under the menu
[04:52] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: You'd think they'd at least have the decency to have a help command, honestly
[04:54] <rollitup> the grub rescue prompt also takes quite a while after rebooting
[04:54] <rollitup> is it suppose to be that way or there some struggle happening ?
[04:54] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: I think grub rescue is hardcoded into the hard drive outside of the first parition, are you having HDD problems at all?
[04:55] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: In terminal you can also do "$sudo add-apt-repository ppa:samba-team/ppa"
[04:55] <rollitup> no I don't think so coz after booting through the USB disk i can see the partitions well even the ls (hd0,msdos1) gives only a blinking cursor,
[04:56] <ElectricPrism> You said you have two distros installed? So there's probably at least 3 paritions, maybe 4
[04:57] <rollitup> yes there are 4 two fat 32 and two ext 4
[04:57] <rollitup> and one swap
[04:57] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: the parition number starts @ #1 and the hdd # starts at 0, so (hd0,msdos1) is the first HDD, first parition, if that doesn't work adjust msdos1 to msdos2, or try to "ls (hd0,msdos#) to figure out which HDD is which
[04:57] <rollitup> after doing ls (hd0,msdos1) i get error: no such partition
[04:58] <fulcan> ElectricPrism do I add it too /etc/apt/sources.list ?  sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[04:58] <jennyzz> hi
[04:58] <fulcan> nm
[04:58] <fulcan> ty
[04:58] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: looks like the article I got the command from was 2009, so maybe it changed
[04:59] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: here's the part that gives me trouble, retrieving the GPG key for the repo before upgrading
[05:00] <fulcan> I've got the repo updated, now how do I install that specific version?
[05:02] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: other package managers like Sabayon have a --search or --find parameter, I assume apt-get does too
[05:03] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: another way is to search for it in synaptic
[05:04] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: $ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:04] <Septima> apt-cache search
[05:04] <ElectricPrism> Ah, maybe $ apt-cache search samba"
[05:04] <ElectricPrism> Or $ apt-cache search samba*
[05:05] <fulcan> thank you!
[05:06] <rollitup> ElectricPrism: should i boot using the USB stick and then perhaps if you can suggest me to look up the partitions ?
[05:07] <sleek13> hey
[05:07] <sleek13> hows it goin
[05:07] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: glad it worked :)
[05:08] <sleek13> anyone in here can help me with a wifi problem? poor speed of under 600kb/sec on average and my internet service is 15MB/sec lol
[05:08] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: I suppose you could try launching gparted in Ubuntu, or searching "Disk Utility" to figure out how they're laid out
[05:09] <fulcan> ElectricPrism does synaptic require a gui?
[05:09] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Oh, yeah it probably does - I guess you have a basic file system without guis
[05:09] <fulcan> ElectricPrism apt-cache doesn't show the version?
[05:09] <elfer> manually setup local data caps
[05:10] <fulcan> command line commando!  :)
[05:10] <elfer> data caps*
[05:11] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: I wonder if aptitude might have a search feature
[05:11] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude#functions_for_every_users
[05:12] <sleek13> anyone in here can help me with a wifi problem? poor speed of under 600kb/sec on average and my internet service is 15MB/sec lol
[05:12] <Septima> fulcan: apt-cache showpkg or show
[05:12] <elfer> 15 mbs? u have a t5?
[05:12] <atrius> anyone off hand know where one could find postgres 9.0 packages for 12.04?
[05:12] <sleek13> no cable modem but yes it is really that quick. suddenlink
[05:13] <sleek13> Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[05:13] <ElectricPrism> Nope, never used wifi - buy a 10$ wireless adapter for USB? idk
[05:13] <elfer> be eye
[05:13] <sleek13> no 45 dollar one supposed to be better for like 50 over more MB/sc
[05:13] <elfer> MBPS? or megabytes per second?
[05:14] <elfer> 45 dollars a month wont get u a t1 line
[05:14] <sleek13> no the usb wifi adapter is 45
[05:14] <elfer> at least 90-130
[05:14] <elfer> o
[05:14] <elfer> brb
[05:14] <sleek13> and yes i got 15 mb sec
[05:14] <sleek13> k
[05:15] <fulcan> p   samba4:i386                                                         - SMB/CIFS file, NT domain and active directory server (version 4)
[05:15] <fulcan> ?
[05:15] <fulcan> would that be it?
[05:15] <ElectricPrism> yes
[05:16] <fulcan> the beta?
[05:16] <ElectricPrism> v4
[05:16] <ElectricPrism> even a apt-get upgrade might have automatically overwritten the non beta
[05:17] <roxx> hey
[05:17] <sleek13> anyone in here can help me with a wifi problem? poor speed of under 600kb/sec on average and my internet service is 15MB/sec lol
[05:17] <sleek13> Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[05:17] <sleek13> and this http://www.belkin.com/us/F9L1001-Belkin/p/P-F9L1001?q=::categoryPath:/Web/WSNT/WSNTWLS/WSNTWLSUSBA is the one i got
[05:17] <JetForMe> Hi. I have two machines configured (nearly) identically, but on one, sudo env | grep JAVA displays the correct value, and on the other it displays nothing. /etc/environment, /etc/profile, /etc/sudoers are identical between them, and none of the users has JAVA_HOME defined in their .files. JAVA_HOME is defined in both /etc/environment and in /etc/profile. Any ideas? Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[05:18] <fulcan> uh-oh  http://pastie.org/5550693
[05:18] <roxx> hey hey hey
[05:18] <sleek13> thanks ahead to anybody that could help
[05:19] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: what does $python --version say?
[05:19] <fulcan> Python 2.7.3
[05:20] <ElectricPrism> 0_0
[05:20] <sleek13> unfortunately i am on the same channel as another router in my neighborhood. could this affect it this badly? only one network close channeled to mine. and...
[05:20] <sleek13> i can't change my channel i have some kind of autoset wifi router by the cable company. if i log into it then everything is grayed out and wont change
[05:21] <elfer> thats mighty fast
[05:21] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: I'm not really sure what the error message is trying to tell us, do you need to do $sudo apt-get install libpython" and is libpython different than python?
[05:21] <elfer> are you sure u dont mean megaBits per second?
[05:21] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Is the OS 32-bit? or 64?
[05:21] <elfer> or is that what you are talking about
[05:21] <elfer> i get like 16 mbps
[05:21] <sleek13> yes one second i will even show you guys the website to buy the service lol
[05:22] <fulcan> Linux abcstorage4 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:22] <XRS1> is there an on screen keyboard available for the install?
[05:23] <XRS1> wrong button  >_<
[05:23] <elfer> okay sleek13
[05:23] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Looks like it's the package for the wrong architecture, so we need to find the amd64 version
[05:23] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: since all your libraries are 64-bit
[05:23] <fulcan> ElectricPrism I installed python 3.2 but still got the same mess of errors
[05:23] <XRS1> is it possible to get an on screen keyboard during install?
[05:24] <fulcan> oh, ok
[05:24] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Python 3x isn't backwards compatible with python 2.7.x, they language changed with version 3.0 enough to break a lot of stuff
[05:25] <sleek13> lol i try to get u guys a link but it goes through some process for address and says i already got service lol
[05:25] <sleek13> but yeah 15MB sec
[05:25] <elfer> right
[05:25] <elfer> ->
[05:25] <fulcan> http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/ubuntu-universe-amd64/samba4-common-bin_4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb.html  ?
[05:25] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Wow, the PPA is listing packages from 2011, I thought it'd be bleeding edge for samba
[05:26] <ElectricPrism> Looks good
[05:26] <fulcan> ElectricPrism gentoo to can flip back and forth between the versions using eselect
[05:26] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: I use Sabayon atm, too bad apt-get wasn't more like emerge
[05:26] <fulcan> ElectricPrism how do I get that one on?
[05:27] <JetForMe> Any sudo/environment experts out there?
[05:27] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: are you on ubuntu 12.04 x 64? or gentoo, im confused
[05:27] <fulcan> ubuntu
[05:27] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: because there are people in #gentoo that are way smarter than me who can give you emerge options real easy
[05:27] <Septima> JetForMe: ask it away
[05:27] <ElectricPrism> uh, wget?
[05:27] <fulcan> but I am a big gentoo user
[05:28] <JetForMe> I've got two nearly identical machines, but the environment for sudo on one is correct, and on the other it is not. I can't figure out where the difference is
[05:28] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: perhaps: "$ cd ~/" "$ wget http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/ubuntu-universe-i386/samba4-common-bin_4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3_i386.deb.html " and then dpkg?
[05:29] <ElectricPrism> fulcan, oh sorry that like is i386 it wont work
[05:30] <L3top> that is also an html page that wgetting will not help much.
[05:30] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: the correct link looks like its: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/samba4/samba4-common-bin_4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb
[05:31] <JetForMe> Septima: /etc/profile, /etc/environment, /etc/sudoers are all identical between machines,  but on one I don't get the environment I need when sudoing
[05:32] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Looks like Samba 4.0 came out December 11th, i wonder when it'll hit the repo
[05:34] <L3top> new != better    though often times new is.
[05:35] <Al562> Hello! Does anyone know how to reset keyboard shortcuts back to defaults.
[05:35] <ElectricPrism> I've never got windows file sharing to work correctly in Ubuntu, so I think Ill take Samba4 in the future since it already doesnt work sadly
[05:35] <ElectricPrism> Al562: Gnome or Unity?
[05:36] <Al562> Unity  in classic mode
[05:36] <CayceH> Hello
[05:37] <L3top> ElectricPrism: Windows networking works under every iteration of windows and linux I run. Can you please expound on your issue?
[05:37] <CayceH> Has anyone heard of a game called scrumbleship?
[05:37] <Al562> I'm running 12.04, tried to modify screenshot shortcuts and now can't get them back to their original keys.
[05:37] <fulcan> ElectricPrism almost, but yuck  -> http://pastie.org/5550863
[05:38] <ElectricPrism> L3top: I wish I could, I simply have never been able to access my Windows 7 Shares on Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, the share is password protected, but your comment gives me hope
[05:39] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Wow! Also, you may consider downgrading from python 3.2 to 2.7, only if you can only have one library installed at a time
[05:40] <CayceH> Can anyone help me with opengl in wine?
[05:41] <Ziber> In 12.04 server, where do I set the timeout time for grub.cfg?
[05:41] <bazhang> CayceH, #winehq for help with particular apps
[05:41] <ElectricPrism> Al562: sorry I dont know how, in Gnome 3 under Control Center there's a "Keyboard" area that has a Shortcuts tab, maybe Unity has something similar
[05:41] <fulcan> ElectricPrism I took 3.2 off, same error
[05:42] <CayceH> Ok
[05:43] <fulcan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/4.0.0~rc4+dfsg1-1
[05:43] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Looks like you need the package "python-samba version 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3" first
[05:43] <Al562> ElectricPrism: That's what I'm talking about, went in there made changes, it did not take the keys I pressed, put strange combinations instead. Then when I tried to set them back it would not let me. ;(
[05:43] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: What does$ python-samba --version" give you
[05:44] <fulcan> python-samba: command not found
[05:44] <ElectricPrism> that's strange I would have thought it would have a command with a package name like that
[05:45] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: #samba has 141 people in it, maybe they know something I dont know
[05:45] <XRS1> what OS do i have to install to have the option of an On Screen Keyboard during install?
[05:46] <ElectricPrism> XRS1 - can you get a run dialog during install? Alt + F2
[05:46] <XRS1> not without a keyboard
[05:46] <ElectricPrism> Ubuntu Gnome Remix?
[05:47] <XRS1> im asking what if any OS has an OSK accessible using a mouse
[05:47] <fulcan> ElectricPrism I'm stuck in a mess http://pastie.org/5550999
[05:48] <Septima> XRS1: why is it you don't have a keyboard
[05:48] <ElectricPrism> XRS1: I know that in Gnome 3.4+ there's a menu called accessability with a onscreen keyboard option I believe, so if you can get to that top menu in Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10 then that should be a start
[05:49] <XRS1> its laptop i want to run headless but the keyboard is broken and theres no way to plug in an external keyboard
[05:49] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: or you can just do "Try Ubuntu" and then open the dash and navigate to the onscreen keyboard app
[05:49] <fulcan> ElectricPrism only ssh access
[05:50] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: sorry, wrong name
[05:50] <ElectricPrism> XRS1: or you can just do "Try Ubuntu" and then open the dash and navigate to the onscreen keyboard app
[05:50] <XRS1> just wanted to find out b4 i download any more ISOs.   tried Ubuntu Studio and it doesnt have an OSK available
[05:51] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: This is just as bad as RPM hell, wow.
[05:51] <fulcan> how do I untangle that?
[05:51] <ElectricPrism> can someone else help us?
[05:52]  * XRS1 is not qualified
[05:52] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: maybe we need to uninstall samba 4.0.0 alpha 18 and try a different source
[05:53] <fulcan> ideally this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/4.0.0~rc4+dfsg1-1 I was told.
[05:55] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: looks like it's dated Dec 8 and the official release was Dec 11,
[05:57] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4
[05:58] <ElectricPrism> QQ
[06:00] <Err404NotFound> I had setup a ssh tunnel between my laptop and a remote server. In this setup i forward my laptop's port 80 and 443 to remote server's 80 and 443 respectively. I have been trying to access apache using remote server's domain but it keep loading forever. Remote server's firewal does allow port 80 and 443. Laptop's apache log level is set to debug everywhere and no log files are updated. Here is tcpdump from my laptop against ip of
[06:00] <Err404NotFound> remote server: http://pastie.org/5551114
[06:01] <Err404NotFound> Oh and laptop's apache is listening on <IP_ADDRESS>(though in this case that doesn't matter), and apache is configured to allow from all against Location / with no access overrides within any vhost. Right now only default vhost is enabled.
[06:03] <ElectricPrism> Can you access it by ip address instead of hostname?
[06:04] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, also 443 forwarding wont work properly due to the SSL operates
[06:05] <Err404NotFound> dcherniv: so shall i deploy apache on remote host and use mod_proxy to workaround ssl?
[06:05] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: nope, same issue against ip access too.
[06:05] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: also tried using telnet localhost 80 on remote server, it hangs on GET / for hours
[06:06] <ElectricPrism> I guess you could try installing lynx and confirming that it can access itself properly, im only a webserver novice so far
[06:06] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, whats the ssh forward line you have?
[06:06] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: tried that with elinks on server already, all in vain.
[06:07] <Err404NotFound> dcherniv: ssh -CTnN -o 'ServerAliveInterval 60' -o 'ServerAliveCountMax 3' -i ~/.ssh/keys/special.ket -R 80:vps.domain.com:80 -R 443:vps.domain.com:443<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:08] <Err404NotFound> a netstat -ntlpe on server shows port 80 and 443 listening against same sshd process so tunnel did establish.
[06:08] <lynx7os5> hey all, is it possible to directly edit and add shortcuts to the launcher in ubuntu 12.10 (preferably throught the terminal)?
[06:09] <ElectricPrism> Err404NotFound: traceroute?
[06:09] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: on which host?
[06:10] <Ziber> In 12.04 server, I want the grub menu to show up every time. How can I do this?
[06:10] <ElectricPrism> Err404NotFound: I would assume the :80, maybe it'll tell you how far your packets get before encountering the error
[06:11] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, looks right, this is running on the client?
[06:11] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: on my laptop it goes upto hop 16 and ends on an ip thats not anywhere near remote server's.
[06:11] <Err404NotFound> dcherniv: yes.
[06:12] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, client is same machine that has apache installed?
[06:12] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: true
[06:14] <lynx7os5> this shows one way http://handytutorial.com/manually-create-custom-application-launcher-in-ubuntu-12-10-unity/  .... but im looking for something along the lines of the actual file that keeps track of the launcher... anyone know where its found by chance?
[06:14] <Error404NotFound> Just checked. If i enable dmz on my routers and allow 80 to my laptop, i could access that using dynamic dns hostname from anywhere, so it can't be apache.
[06:15] <XRS1> is your router capable or routing to its self?
[06:15] <Error404NotFound> needless to say, i think it would exhibit same behavior if i had used a frontend proxy on remote server.
[06:16] <Error404NotFound> XRS1: yes.
[06:16] <Ziber> Anyone mind helping me get grub on 12.04 to show up every time I boot?
[06:16] <lynx7os5> Ziber:  edit /boot/grub/grub.conf, change timeout
[06:16] <Ziber> lynx7os5: Will that show the menu?
[06:17] <deper29> Ziber: no, for grub2 you don't change that file
[06:17] <deper29> edit /etc/default/grub
[06:17] <deper29> and in there they have a timeout option
[06:17] <deper29> lynx7os5: that's for old grub
[06:18] <Ziber> Hm, okay.
[06:18] <deper29> Ziber: after you configure that(read it, it's really straight forward) then run a 'sudo grub-update'
[06:19] <Ziber> I updated the timeout value, and so it'll show a black screen for what I assume is the value I set, but then boot anyway. There are multiple options, I want to be able to select them at boot..
[06:19] <lynx7os5> ahh, im not running the default grub for ubuntu.. on this system it has gentoo's grub booting ubuntu
[06:20] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, can you run this on vps? ssh -f user@target -L 80:target.com:80 -N
[06:20] <deper29> lynx7os5: ahh, I see. so you're using grub legacy then?
[06:20] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, ie reverse the tunnel
[06:20] <lynx7os5> deper29: but thanks, now i know not to touch /boot/grub/grub.conf lol
[06:20] <deper29> lynx7os5: for grub legacy you edit that
[06:20] <lynx7os5> deper29: yea, i believe so..
[06:21] <Ziber> Any thoughts on my issue then?
[06:21] <ejo> Is tuxonice just going to stay "might work, might now" for an indefinite length of time, maybe until a future Ubuntu release or until someone writes another hibernation package?
[06:21] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: ok, so in this target would be the current live ip/dynamic dns hostname of my laptop's network?
[06:21] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, where target is the server apache runs on
[06:21] <deper29> Ziber: edit /etc/default/grub
[06:21] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, correct
[06:21] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: confirm: to make it work i need to ensure port 80 on routers is still forward to my dmz host = laptop.
[06:21] <deper29> lynx7os5: just emerge grub2 :P
[06:22] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, yes
[06:22] <Ziber> deper29: I am. I set the timeout value to 10. I ran update-grub. I restarted. Right before it boots, it'll show a blank screen, but regardless of any keys I press, wont show the menu.
[06:22] <ejo> When I installed 12.04 fresh two months ago, I added tuxonice and it worked great... but only for a few weeks... eventually after receiving enough ubuntu updates tuxonice quit working right, even if I uninstall/purge and reinstall it.
[06:22] <lynx7os5> deper29: ahh, idk if i could aford to learn another boot loader just yet :p
[06:23] <jjbb> hello
[06:23] <deper29> lynx7os5: it's the same pretty much except you update your grub menu differently
[06:23] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: correction, shouldn't i also forward port 22?
[06:23] <lynx7os5> deper29: but maybe in the near future ;)
[06:23] <deper29> Ziber: here is my /etc/default/grub http://bpaste.net/show/65307/
[06:23] <Error404NotFound> e.g. forward 22 on router to dmz
[06:24] <ejo> s/"might now"/"might not"
[06:24] <deper29> Ziber: if you pastebin your grub me or the rest of the people could take a look :)
[06:25] <deper29> I really didn't think the linaro toolchain would take this long to compile :/
[06:26] <jjbb> i ahving this problem
[06:26] <jjbb> the ui of my ubuntu keep going back to window95-like ui
[06:26] <jjbb> you know grey and lame
[06:26] <jjbb> you guys having this problem ?
[06:26] <somsip> jjbb - post screenshots
[06:26] <somsip> !paste | jjrb
[06:27] <MylesMan> hello
[06:27] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, shouldnt need to
[06:27] <MylesMan> i'm having an odd ocurrence
[06:27] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey Guys
[06:28] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> is there a pkg that notifies me if someone were to enter my shell or VPS?
[06:28] <mnathani> I setup scripts in bashrc or profile that send me an email on logon
[06:28] <jjbb> i dont' think it suppor image
[06:29] <Ziber> Well, hang on with that. Somehow the box lost DNS resolution.
[06:29] <lynx7os5> deper29: heh, ahh yeah see, that looks too complicated...
[06:29] <lynx7os5> heres mine :p http://lynx7os5.mdns.org:12345/grub.conf.txt
[06:29] <MylesMan> i'm running mythbuntu 026 (custom setup using the control-centre) and upon updating i noticed it downloaded libmyth 025 and 026 and only did this with libmyth the rest were just 026 any idea what would cause this?
[06:30] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> @ mnathani but nothing that can notify you in terminal?
[06:30] <obert> hi. i'm sorry. why sometimes i search for updates via 'update software' and i dont find nothing while doing apt-get upgrade finds some?
[06:30] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: this seem to work, except it bind the tunnel to local interface only.
[06:30] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> because i constantly log on and off of my shell and dont want emails every time
[06:30] <obert> did i made something wrong from the start?
[06:31] <lynx7os5> deper29: but its a little messed at the moment, still installing a couple things and configuring, or trying to :\
[06:31] <Ziber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449426/ grub.cfg
[06:33] <Error404NotFound> so this confirms that issue isn't with apache or my laptop's firewall/router configs.
[06:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hey guys i need help with lightirc
[06:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it keeps asking download flash player
[06:34] <lynx7os5> Ziber: grub2?
[06:35] <Ziber> Yes.
[06:35] <lynx7os5> its over my head
[06:35] <jjbb> here the image http://imagebin.org/239920
[06:35] <jjbb> guys check it out
[06:36] <jjbb> tell me why it become that
[06:36] <Ziber> I just need a way to make sure that, if the kernel that I'm trying fails (Xen), that I can get back into the machine.
[06:36] <Ziber> :/
[06:36] <Ziber> This shouldn't be that hard.
[06:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hey guys i need help with lightirc
[06:37] <fulcan> can someone help me untangle this http://pastie.org/5551434
[06:37] <jjbb> anyone ?
[06:38] <jjbb> so i just wasted my time posting my image
[06:39] <XRS1> you been customizing the UI?
[06:39] <XRS1> i did that once but i dont remember what i did to make it do that
[06:39] <lynx7os5> Ziber: what if, im not sure whats in that file your posted, could the splash image be the cause? i had a gentoo box do something familiar, with the splashimage loading and the graphics card not set properly... sounds almost identical to your problem
[06:39] <jjbb> xrsi , no
[06:39] <lynx7os5> *simular*
[06:40] <Ziber> lynx7os5: Thoughts on fixing it?
[06:40] <jjbb> when startup it will display normal ui then a few second later it become that
[06:41] <Ziber> fixed it, nevermind
[06:41] <Ziber> :D
[06:41] <Ziber> commented out the hidden line
[06:41] <Ziber> :D
[06:41] <lynx7os5> Ziber: well, dont quate me but, my suggestion would be to find the line the starts the slashimage and comment it out
[06:41] <lynx7os5> maybe to see, idk
[06:41] <rsvp> what are some things which will make a machine REBOOT on its own accord... (besides a quick power outage) ???
[06:41] <XRS1> ram
[06:41] <mnathani> @[_-S1L3NC3-_] this command should work if you put it in the profile or bashrc of a specific user: cat memo.txt | write username pts/0
[06:42] <XRS1> bad CPU cache
[06:42] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm
[06:42] <Ziber> I win.
[06:42] <rollitup> hi there
[06:43] <Ziber> Googled and found someone trying to disable that message
[06:43] <rollitup> i am still struggling to get my desktop to booot
[06:43] <Ziber> s/message/menu
[06:43] <Ziber> so I did the reverse.
[06:43] <rollitup> i had a dual boot desktop win 7 and ubuntu 12.04
[06:43] <lynx7os5> Ziber: cool
[06:43] <Nimble> rollitup: what happens when you boot?
[06:43] <Ziber> So, now to make that the default... I could just reorder the list somehow to make it the first one, right?
[06:44] <deper29> lynx7os5: what is messed at the momnet? grub?
[06:44] <rollitup> and I was performing some kind of software upgrade which terminated abruptly and then after I rebooted i get and error message saying partition not found grub rescue >
[06:44] <XRS1> run a live USB and install testdisk   that should fix it
[06:45] <XRS1> or just reinstall 'buntu
[06:45] <Nimble> well, I'd go with the testdisk option
[06:45] <rsvp> /var/log/messages has been deprecated... now /var/log/syslog requires sudo to read it.
[06:45] <lynx7os5> deper29: oh, nothing really, it works, but this box is a long ways from setup.. and i may be changing a couple partitions around too eh
[06:45] <Nimble> if he just reinstalls ubuntu and he's damaged his boot record, he might destroy his windows installation
[06:46] <deper29> lynx7os5: i see. are you on grub2 now?
[06:47] <XRS1> that was directed @ rollitup   by the way
[06:48] <rollitup> Nimble: are issues as these really solvable
[06:48] <lynx7os5> deper29: little bit of configuring to do, thats all.. uhh no, it is the legaacy build, i checked (0.97-r12   GNU GRUB Legacy boot loader) :\
[06:48] <rollitup> i have been struggling with alot of assistance from this channel since yesterday but still no sucess
[06:49] <lynx7os5> i still have to install xorg lol, and then gnome :p
[06:49] <lynx7os5> not looking forward to it.... heh
[06:50] <deper29> lynx7os5: oh, I see. I like grub legacy because it works on my uefi board with no issues unlike this grub2-efi garbage. and xorg isn't that bad, but emerging gnome takes *forever*
[06:53] <lynx7os5> deper29: hmm lets see.. i had xp install a few days ago, ubuntu and debian yesterday, and gentoo over night compiling the kernel.. and still have to go back in and tweak that too lol
[06:54] <rollitup> Nimble: here is my partition table as it appears in Gparted http://imagebin.org/239921
[06:54] <lynx7os5> but today, ive been playing around in debina and ubuntu
[06:55] <lynx7os5> ive set up one partition thats on ntfs to be shared by all four with a bunch of symlinks and installed swap into a file
[06:55] <kelvinella> ls
[06:55] <kelvinella> hi
[06:55] <deper29> lynx7os5: kernel shouldn't take that long to build. what architecture are you building on? your two biggest things to compile will be firefox and libreoffice
[06:56] <lynx7os5> not without the help from irc of course..
[06:56] <lynx7os5> its umm..
[06:56] <ChupaCu> help
[06:56] <lynx7os5> deper29: its: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-62
[06:57] <lynx7os5> processor always comfuse me most in kernel configs :\
[06:58] <lynx7os5> its a duel cpu duel core i believe, oh, k8 i think
[06:58] <dougbb> How do I get GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL to catch up with reality?
[06:59] <dougbb> there is no directory where it thinks it should be, but there is a different one in that location
[06:59] <rollitup> isn't there any hope left to get this system up and running
[06:59] <Kartagis> when someone sends a message, pidgin displays a smiley until I see the message. this happens with KDE. is there a way to do the same thing with cairo?
[06:59] <XRS1> rollitup,  run a live USB and install & run testdisk
[07:00] <smury> i just installed ubuntu on a brand new laptop. I have never used linux before in my life
[07:00] <rollitup> i have already booted using the live usb stick
[07:00] <rollitup> how do i run testdisk ?
[07:00] <rollitup> there is something like Test Memory during the boot screen of the USB stick
[07:01] <Kartagis> smury: welcome to the world of linux. how may we assist you?
[07:01] <deper29> lynx7os5: you got your kernel configured though, yes? I always found CFLAGS more confusing.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> XRS1: What do you expect to accomplish with testdisk?
[07:01] <fulcan> can someone help me untabgle this? http://pastie.org/5551434
[07:02] <XRS1> rollitup,  sudo apt-get install testdisk -y
[07:02] <dougbb> fulcan: short summary of what you want to fix?
[07:02] <DaemonicApathy> I'm horrible at grep commands. How do I search a folder for files with a certain string again?
[07:02] <Nimble> rollitup: hmm.. I'm at a loss right now
[07:02] <dougbb> smury: welcome :)
[07:02] <lynx7os5> deper29:  i havent set the cflags yet.
[07:02] <deper29> lynx7os5: you'll want to do that ;)
[07:02] <Nimble> oh
[07:02] <Nimble> ok
[07:02] <Nimble> wait
[07:03] <dougbb> DaemonicApathy: that's pretty basic, have you checked the man page?
[07:03] <smury> i should be ok, I bought  "beginning ubuntu linux" from the itunes store
[07:03] <Nimble> rollitup, open a terminal and enter "sudo apt-get install testdisk" without quotes
[07:03] <DaemonicApathy> dougbb: I did, but I'm losing my focus right now, and need to get one more thing done before I hit the sack. ;-)
[07:03] <lynx7os5> deper29: yea, that might be a good place to start i guess eh
[07:03] <fulcan> dougbb I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/4.0.0~rc4+dfsg1-1
[07:04] <Jordan_U> rollitup: Do you know why you have almost 53 GiB of unallocated space on your drive? Is there a partition that you expect to be there that isn't?
[07:04] <dougbb> fulcan: what happens if you use the software center?
[07:04] <rollitup> yes i just left it that wayz
[07:05] <rollitup> hey guys i ran boot-repair again like say for the 10th time since yesterday and now i am able to boot into Ubuntu
[07:05] <rollitup> but don't see the Windows 7 boot option
[07:05] <Nimble> that's an easy fix
[07:05] <Nimble> do "sudo update-grub"
[07:05] <Nimble> it should find it
[07:05] <Gentoon> Thz bazhang
[07:06] <Gentoon> Thx
[07:06] <rollitup> Nimble: did that should I reboot now and see if win 7 shows up in the option list ?
[07:06] <Nimble> yes
[07:06] <Gentoon> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 onto a laptop with no HDD using
[07:06] <rollitup> ok
[07:06] <Jordan_U> rollitup: Following this guide will probably fiz your problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[07:06] <Gentoon> an 8GB Flash drive
[07:07] <Nimble> Jordan_U, looks like he fixed it with boot-repair
[07:07] <rollitup> Jordan_U: thanks I think I've almost fixed it
[07:07] <DaemonicApathy> Never mind, I got it. I'm an idiot after staying awake for two days.
[07:07] <Nimble> Gentoon, are you getting an error while trying?
[07:07] <Gentoon> But getting some weird warnings during install about SDA Asking for Cache data failed?
[07:07] <dougbb> DaemonicApathy: :)
[07:07] <fulcan> dougbb I added a repo and thats pretty much what got me here. http://pastie.org/5551650 it keeps saying a package is installed (alpha) which is not and I cannot get past it.
[07:08] <XRS1> Gentoon,  thats not normal. are you sure the drive is good?
[07:08] <Gentoon> Assuming drive cache: Write through
[07:08] <dougbb> fulcan: Ok,  I personally find synaptic to be useful under those circumstances, it will often show you things that the software center can't
[07:08] <Gentoon> XRS1: I have been using it as a normal thumb drive for the few weeks I have had it fine?
[07:09] <dougbb> oddly enough, you can install synaptic with the software center :)
[07:09] <fulcan> dougbb I have no gui
[07:09] <Gentoon> I havent had an error that has stopped the install yet
[07:09] <Gentoon> [sda] Asking for cache data failed.
[07:09] <dougbb> fulcan: ah ... sorry ... I'm not proficient with apt/dpkg yet
[07:09] <XRS1> Gentoon,  i had tons of problems installing to my 16GB thumbdrive. it worked fine in windows. finally found out the drive is going bad. very slow to initiate
[07:09] <dougbb> Meanwhile, how do I get GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL to catch up with reality?
[07:10] <XRS1> Gentoon,  changed USB drives, problem solved
[07:10] <Gentoon> When I tried this before with the net install cd and this thumb drive it finally installed but was extremely sluggish and froze sometimes
[07:11] <Gentoon> XRS1: I only have one more and it is a 2GB, so you think it is the USB drive?
[07:12] <JetForMe> aniston1!
[07:12] <XRS1> Gentoon,  other thing to try is verify the checksum to make sure the ISO is good n "burned" correctly.
[07:12] <Gentoon> I guess O will just have to wait till I have money for a new hdd
[07:13] <Gentoon> XRS1: Yes this is the second ISO I have tried. So yea if this is still all slow after its installed I will just wait till I can get a new hdd
[07:13] <Ziber> So, #xen's not responding, anyone played with Xen remember how to install via an ISO to a paravirtual domU?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: Sluggishnesa can often be caused by a lack of hardware accelerated 3D, especially with Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:13] <Gentoon> Weird thing is when I use unetbootin to make a persistant USB live CD it works fine and really fast
[07:14] <Nimble> are you using the option to give it permanent space?
[07:14] <Gentoon> Jordan_U: it was more like after opring an application it took forever and sometimes stopped responding
[07:14] <Nimble> I've had a few problems with making live USBs that have persistent space
[07:14] <Gentoon> Nimble: Yea Persistant
[07:14] <Nimble> what I would do is literally install ubuntu onto the flash drive
[07:15] <Gentoon> Nimble: It worked fine that way, now I am actually installing it to a USB drive that is where I get the issues
[07:15] <Nimble> oh, I see.
[07:15] <Nimble> so you start the installation process from a live USB or CD and select your USB drive as the destination?
[07:15] <rollitup> Nimble: thanks for your support
[07:16] <Nimble> rollitup, no problem
[07:16] <Nimble> I hope it's all working
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: So same drive, same version of Ubuntu, works fine as a LiveUSB but not as a normal install?
[07:16] <Gentoon> Nimble: Yes. Because my HDD Pooped on me, this is just a temporary fix untill I can get a new hdd
[07:16] <Gentoon> Jordan_U: Yes
[07:16] <rollitup> Jordan_U: and XRS1 thank you guys
[07:16] <Nimble> has the laptop had problems with noveau before, Gentoon?
[07:16] <Gentoon> If I have to I will just go back to live persistant mode untill I get a new hdd
[07:17] <Gentoon> Nimble: Do not think so
[07:17] <varikonniemi> weird, i have installed ubuntu 11.04 on a 512mb usb drive
[07:17] <varikonniemi> after remixing out al the unnecessary
[07:17] <Gentoon> varikonniemi: This is just a Generic USB drive from my school, could be why
[07:17] <varikonniemi> so even the slowes, smallest usb disks should work fine
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: The only important difference I can think of ia the LiveUAB being compresed, reducing the amount of data that needs to be read.
[07:17] <Gentoon> Ubuntu required 4GB now anyways
[07:18] <varikonniemi> think you can get it down to 512 still, am certain you can get it to 1 gig
[07:18] <DaemonicApathy> Requirements aren't final in Linux, usually.
[07:18] <Gentoon> Yea it is an hour and a half into install now
[07:18] <Gentoon> should not take this long lol
[07:19] <Gentoon> I think I will just do the persistant USB untill I can get a new hdd
[07:19] <XRS1> Gentoon,  that'll work. thats what i did
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[07:20]  * XRS1 still doesnt have a hard drive
[07:20] <notwist> Gentoon: what happens if you try to install on the disk?
[07:20] <smury> ubuntu looks like os x
[07:20] <Gentoon> notwist: There is no disk, that is why I am doing this
[07:20] <Gentoon> The disk is dead
[07:20] <notwist> Gentoon: the one that broke i mean, it wont start at all?
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> smury: You can change the desktop environment, if you like.
[07:21] <Gentoon> notwist: no that disk is full of bad sectors sitting on my coffee table, its garbage
[07:21] <smury> in system settings?
[07:21] <deper29> smury: no, you'd have to install a new desktop environment
[07:21] <smury> ok
[07:22] <Gentoon> What is the app I can install to pipe output of a command to a pastebin?
[07:22] <Gentoon> the easy one?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> pastebinit?
[07:22] <Gentoon> thx
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> np
[07:23] <Gentoon> Unable to locate lol
[07:23] <DaemonicApathy> I don't think it's installed by default yet.
[07:23] <notwist> Gentoon: just wanted to check if any garage solution was available as a temp fix, I once installed linux on a partition 1/10 of the total HDD size on a HDD that got the whole computer to hang when used because that part was fine
[07:23] <Gentoon> No I mean apt-cache search cant find it
[07:24] <notwist> Gentoon: so unless the amount of bad sectors is insanely high, sometimes you can find somewhere on the disk to run it off for a week or so :P
[07:24] <Gentoon> I dont have repos installed yet cause its not even finsihed installing yet
[07:24] <Gentoon> notwist: the partition table is friend and it wont allow a new one to be written
[07:25] <Gentoon> fried*
[07:25] <notwist> well thats not good :)
[07:25] <Gentoon> haha no
[07:25] <Gentoon> I do comp repair for a living and this lady just gave me this laptop cause she couldnt afford a new hdd lol
[07:26] <DaemonicApathy> Gentoon: Now all you need is an oversized flash drive with a SATA connection, so everything goes nice and fast.
[07:26] <Gentoon> its not bad dual core 2.2Ghz 3GB DDR3 17"
[07:26] <notwist> Gentoon: go for an SSD when you buy a new one id say
[07:26] <Gentoon> notwist: I have heard bad things about how long SSDs last
[07:27] <Gentoon> I was thinking a 10000 RPM 500 GB
[07:27] <notwist> Gentoon: any downsides are completely worth it
[07:27] <DaemonicApathy> I saw a 240GB SSD at Staples for $69.99. Does it matter how long it lasts at that price? :-)
[07:27] <notwist> DaemonicApathy: exactly
[07:27] <dougbb> newer ssds last longer, especially if the file systems supports TRIM
[07:27] <deper29> Gentoon: you can configure them to last a while
[07:27] <notwist> SSD is just insane amounts faster and _no moving parts_ which you should care about if you move the laptop around
[07:27] <deper29> realistically though, they have something like a 5 year warranty or something
[07:27] <Gentoon> Eh ill stick with higher capacity magnetic drives for now
[07:28] <notwist> Gentoon: because why?
[07:28] <DaemonicApathy> Fear of silence.
[07:28] <Gentoon> Because I need a lot of space :)
[07:28] <deper29> Gentoon: build an nfs
[07:28] <deper29> *nas
[07:28] <notwist> if you're lucky enough to have a laptop with room for two disks you can have one SSD for the OS and one storage device
[07:28] <notwist> but as deper29 says, storage might as well be in the network nowadays
[07:29] <Gentoon> Okay imma go over to my desktop and make a persistant usd live Ubuntu
[07:29] <Gentoon> Actually it is at the "Configuring HW" stage lets let it finish
[07:29] <deper29> in a laptop you can't possibly need TBs of space
[07:30] <deper29> just grab a 250 GB SSD off the shelf and install it and be *very* amazed with the speed difference
[07:30]  * DaemonicApathy currently uses a 128GB SSD and a 2T external.
[07:31]  * deper29 uses a 128 GB SSD as well and a 8TB NAS
[07:31] <Gentoon> Sure you can
[07:31] <Gentoon> I have 3TB on my other Laptop and its 75% capacity
[07:31] <DaemonicApathy> Lots of videos?
[07:31] <Gentoon> Depends on what ya do
[07:32] <deper29> the performance difference is worth it to me I guess :P
[07:33] <fulcan> what am I doing wrong? http://pastie.org/5551754
[07:38] <madc|SPYnX> what is the best version to use in host requirement for LFS 7.2?
[07:38] <madc|SPYnX> what is the best version to use in host requirement for LFS 7.2?
[07:39] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: you are building Linux From Scratch?
[07:39] <madc|SPYnX> i want to build my own...
[07:39] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: if you need to ask that question, you are not ready to build LFS
[07:39] <wdp> heh
[07:40] <madc|SPYnX> I'm ready but i want a specific distro version to build :)
[07:40] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: exactly. You don't understand what LFS is
[07:40] <riqdiiz> what is it?
[07:40] <aetcore> If you want something to build yourself i would start with Archlinux
[07:41] <madc|SPYnX> i do understand slighlty i do have enough knowledge to that with the guide
[07:41] <wdp> madc|SPYnX, LFS is pretty well documented. check teeh web.
[07:41] <aetcore> its close enough to do what you want, but also has a community behind it
[07:41] <wdp> madc|SPYnX, and i'm pretty sure you're wrong in the ubuntu channel, asking such questions.
[07:41] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: yeah - well off topic here. Plenty of help available around the LFS guides
[07:42] <madc|SPYnX> some suggest to use Ubuntu but what is the best version of it :)
[07:42]  * wdp sighs
[07:42] <riqdiiz> how I wish I knew what it is
[07:42] <dougbb> madc|SPYnX: what problem are you planning to use LFS to solve?
[07:42] <wdp> riqdiiz, lfs?
[07:42] <aetcore> riqdiiz: im 80% sure they are talking about http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[07:43] <madc|SPYnX> What is the best host requirement to use.. i dont know how to determine wether 12.10 or 12.04 is the best to use.
[07:43] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: it makes no difference
[07:43] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: install one. if it works, use it.
[07:44] <wdp> riqdiiz, right. it's linux from scratch, i.e. building a linux system from the ground up, totally unrelated to ubuntu. They most likely suggested him/her to use ubuntu instead of fiddling with LFS (which is a pretty good way to find out how a linux system works imo, though not that easy to start with for beginners)
[07:44] <madc|SPYnX> ok ill be back if it works... tnx somsip :) is the ubuntu server 12.10 the same build?
[07:44] <riqdiiz> oh I think its better suited for #startups
[07:45] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: server build is not desktop build
[07:45] <madc|SPYnX> so is there any conflict with the gcc and other :)
[07:46] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: enough. I've helped and you are off topic.
[07:46] <madc|SPYnX> :) ok... is ubuntu server a gui type? how can i start from it?
[07:46] <aetcore> LOL
[07:47] <Danny_> Hey guys, long time Windows user just switched over to Ubuntu and I have a quick question. Is there a keyboard shortcut that allows me to minimize all my windows and go to the desktop? Like Windows Key + D on Windows?
[07:47] <aetcore> Danny_: depends on what you use
[07:47] <Ziber> Anyone here play around with Xen? ##xen has gone silent.
[07:47] <praveenmarkandu> hi. im using squid3 downloaded from the repositories. however I need some squid helpers
[07:48] <Gentoon> I am really pissed that Sandisk wont replace the SECOND bad 64GB SDXC card they have sent me without answering a million questions via email first and then sending the card back at my expense..
[07:48] <praveenmarkandu> but they dont seem to be installed. do I have to download and compile the source myself?
[07:48] <Danny_> aetcore I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:49] <aetcore> Danny_: This might be handy then
[07:49] <aetcore> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[07:49] <aetcore> Windows Key + D
[07:49] <aetcore> would answer your question though
[07:50] <cristal> my ubuntu did not open libra office , mozilla fire fox. what shall i do?
[07:50] <DaemonicApathy> For reference, "Windows Key" = "Super" in Ubuntu.
[07:51] <Danny_> Ah, thanks for the link. Windows key + D doesnt seem to worktho :(
[07:51] <Gentoon> M$ Just claimed they have overtaken google in Searches..
[07:51] <Gentoon> with Bing, Ahahaha'
[07:51] <cristal> my ubuntu did not open libra office , mozilla fire fox. what shall i do?
[07:52] <fulcan> how do I get the version of this package? http://pastie.org/5551789
[07:52] <cristal>  please help me. my ubuntu did not open libra office , mozilla fire fox. what shall i do?
[07:53] <aetcore> cristal: you need to provide a little more information
[07:53] <Mechdave> cristal, what do you mean by not open?
[07:54] <cristal> Mechdave:  aetcore  while i clicking on the longer icon of mozill or libre they try to open but no window will find
[07:55] <aetcore> cristal: have you tried rebooting>?
[07:55] <cristal> Mechdave:  aetcore: ya i tried several times
[07:55] <Mechdave> fulcan, You want to install a testing version of samba?
[07:56] <aetcore> cristal: ok, the only thing i can offer is for you to update it OR provide some logs
[07:56] <Mechdave> cristal, open a terminal and type in firefox
[07:56] <fulcan> yes
[07:56] <Unclebeavez> hey gusy
[07:57] <cristal> aetcore: Mechdave ok i will try
[07:57] <Mechdave> fulcan, maybe you can start here --> https://www.google.com.au/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=samba4-4.0.0~rc4%2Bdfsg1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=uXLRUPTsDKKiigetuoDIAg
[07:58] <cristal> Mechdave:  is it sudo firefox
[07:58] <Mechdave> fulcan, you might need to install it manually instead of using apt. I personally would not recommend it
[07:58] <Mechdave> cristal, no just firefox
[07:58] <fulcan> Mechdave I already have that
[07:58] <fulcan> but I am very unsure of how to install it.
[07:59] <cristal> Mechdave:  ok, but nothing happned
[07:59] <Mechdave> fulcan, also you could enable testing in the software sources. But that has been known to break systems
[07:59] <fulcan> is that how you install it?
[07:59] <Mechdave> cristal, what does the terminal say?
[07:59] <vitimiti> (^.^)/
[08:00] <Semilevel> cristal.$> sudo apt-get install wheelchair
[08:00] <Mechdave> fulcan, You need to be prepared to do a full install of Ubuntu if your installation of this samba does not work. Using unstable software can bork your system really quickly.
[08:01] <cristal> Mechdave: nothins reported
[08:01] <fulcan> Mechdave thats fine, this software ''must'' go on.
[08:01] <cristal> Mechdave:  nothing reported
[08:02] <ikonia> fulcan: please don't start this again
[08:02] <Mechdave> fulcan, Ok no worries, as long as you understand the risks involved :)
[08:03] <Mechdave> fulcan, go to the README file in the directory of samba sources and follow the instructions there
[08:03] <fulcan> ikoniathe existing version from debian is crapping out on authentication and nobody on #samba will deeal with it because apt-get uses beta
[08:04] <ikonia> fulcan: stop telling lies
[08:04] <ikonia> fulcan: we will not help you with Debian
[08:04] <Mechdave> cristal, Ok... Open Ubuntu Software Centre and see if firefox is installed
[08:05] <Semilevel> Install Gentoo, fulcan.
[08:05] <vip> !ciao
[08:05] <fulcan> ikonia lies? no
[08:05] <vip> !list
[08:06] <cristal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449520/
[08:06] <fulcan>  ikonia what do you mean by debian? I am on ubuntu
[08:06] <ikonia> fulcan: 1.) they did say they wouldn't haelp you
[08:06] <ikonia> 2.) you know how to install samba 4 - you did it earlier and I explained it to you
[08:06] <fulcan> Semilevel I use it all the time but not an option here
[08:06] <lubuntu> hi
[08:07] <ikonia> fulcan: 3.) you said "the version from debian".....
[08:07] <cristal> while typrd firefoxin my terminal i found like this
[08:07] <cristal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449520/
[08:07] <fulcan> one sec, I will be right back
[08:07] <Guest64223> can someone help me out. I downloaded and installed lubuntu and it is great however i want to remove the default games but when i try to take off even ace-of-penguins it wants to uninstall lubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <somsip> Guest64223: this is explained here - same principle - http://askubuntu.com/questions/229368/how-to-remove-chromium-browser-without-removing-lubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <Guest64223> ok thank you somsip  i will check that out
[08:10] <praveenmarkandu> igonre my question. found it
[08:11] <Ali> hi members
[08:11] <Guest64223> oh somsip lol apparently it is only meta i thought it would take off the whole desktop so i dont even need it it said until upgrade
[08:11] <Guest64223> awesome
[08:11] <Guest64223> thanks
[08:11] <kelvinella> hi all
[08:11] <Ali> Do any one know about csync2?
[08:12] <fulcan> http://pastie.org/5551828
[08:12] <Mechdave> cristal, try renaming your .mozilla folder to .mozilla.old and then try to relaunch firefox from the terminal. To rename the .mozilla folder from terminal type the following mv $HOME/.mozilla $HOME/.mozilla.old
[08:12] <fulcan> lies?
[08:12] <Mechdave> cristal, no need to use sudo
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: yes
[08:13] <fulcan> read it!
[08:13] <fulcan> wtf you think that says?
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: I am in the channel and can see the whole context
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: they do not say "we won't support you"
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: one guy says it's hard to support you as samba 4 is a moving target
[08:14] <fulcan> I'm not going to seach that crap again for you
[08:15] <ikonia> search what ?
[08:15] <ikonia> I'm not asking you to search anything
[08:15] <kelvinella> hi ikonia
[08:15] <ikonia> hello
[08:15] <kelvinella> remember me from last night?
[08:16] <ikonia> kelvinella: the western digital passport ?
[08:16] <kelvinella> i reformat my WD Mypassport and now it can be read in thunar in  xubuntu
[08:16] <ikonia> that's great
[08:16] <kelvinella> i think it has something to do with the folder WD put in the drive
[08:17] <ikonia> you could have just deleted the directory
[08:17] <kelvinella> cant delete the directory
[08:17] <ikonia> you don't have to format a drive to delete a directory, but as long as you're working
[08:17] <ikonia> kelvinella: you can delete it...but your working now so it doesn't matter
[08:17] <kelvinella> it says input/output error when sudo rm Locale
[08:18] <kelvinella> ikonia, maybe they use non-unicode character for the folder name
[08:18] <ikonia> you can still do that
[08:18] <kelvinella> it reads d??????? ? ? ? ? Locale when ls -l
[08:18] <ikonia> it's fixed now, so no point discussing it more
[08:20] <lynx7os5> anyone here have experience with ehoover's netflix-desktop and have it freeze the system?
[08:20] <ikonia> !netflix
[08:21] <lynx7os5> ..version... 12.10
[08:22] <lynx7os5> thank you
[08:22] <Arash> Hello :)
[08:23] <Arash> why connections disconnect with delay ?
[08:23] <Arash> and how can I fix this ?
[08:24] <madc|SPYnX> How can i connect my Smart Bro ZTE MF627?
[08:25] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: to what?
[08:26] <madc|SPYnX> ubuntu 12.10
[08:27] <Ramtron> yo
[08:27] <Ramtron> can someone please help me fix my webcam
[08:27] <Ramtron> on ubuntu it wants to display upside down
[08:29] <Ramtron> anyone, pelase?
[08:29] <Ramtron> pleas
[08:29] <Ramtron> e
[08:29] <deper29> Ramtron: just flip the pictures after :P
[08:30] <Ramtron> ..?
[08:30] <Ramtron> it's a live webcam
[08:30] <deper29> is there a certain application that it happens in, or is it in everything?
[08:30] <R1cochet> hello, i just had ubuntu server installed on a system and i did a apt-get upgrade. now grub is asking me about a disk that is no longer present. how should i proceed?
[08:31] <deper29> R1cochet: try doing a grub-update
[08:31] <cristal> Mechdave: nothing happned
[08:32] <R1cochet> ok, so dont select either sda and sda1
[08:32] <R1cochet> or*
[08:34] <lfaraone> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04, and I now get sent to the grub rescue> prompt with complaints about not being able to find /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod. I have /boot/ on a separate partition, and I can mount /dev/sda1 in a livecd and see that the boot data is in fact there, But doing ls (hd0,msdos1) etc either returns that there's an unknown filesystem or ""
[08:35] <cristal> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449520/
[08:35] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | lfaraone
[08:36] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please pastebin the RESULTS.txt and post a link to it here.
[08:36] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: Wait.
[08:36] <cristal> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449551/
[08:36] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: will do. Uh, is it normal for /boot to be ext2?
[08:36] <deper29> lfaraone: yes
[08:37] <lfaraone> Weird. It used to mount in the livecd, but now I get "more filesystems detected" when I attempt to moun tit.
[08:37] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: If the only disk in your computer is sda, then that is where grub's boot sector should go (never any parititon, like sda1). If you have more than one drive then there are other options, but if sda is the drive containing Ubuntu that's probably where you want grub's boot sector (though you might want it on all drives in addition to that).
[08:39] <R1cochet> Jordan_U: thank you
[08:39] <deper29> lfaraone: what are you trying to mount and how are you trying to mount it?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: You're welcome.
[08:39] <lfaraone> deper29: I tried to mount /boot, which is /dev/sda1. I did "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" from a livecd.
[08:40] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/UPge
[08:41] <deper29> lfaraone: you're in the livecd now?
[08:41] <lfaraone> deper29: Yeah, I have not been able to boot since I upgraded.
[08:41] <lfaraone> the above link was the output from bootinfo
[08:41] <deper29> uefi?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: What version of Ubuntu is the LiveCD?
[08:42] <lfaraone> deper29: No, BIOS
[08:43] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: 12.10.
[08:43] <lfaraone> and it's a live USB, created with unetbootin.
[08:43] <deper29> lfaraone: where is grub installed?
[08:43] <lfaraone> deper29: /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[08:44] <lubuntu> hi
[08:44] <deper29> hmm, give me a second
[08:44] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[08:45] <R1cochet> is there a better way than another to add a user to the sudoers list?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: Add the user to the sudo group.
[08:45] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/cJZO
[08:45] <R1cochet> use command line or edit sudo file with visudo?
[08:45] <somsip> R1cochet: visudo
[08:46] <R1cochet> so just put the user in the "User privilege specification" section?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Clearly something is wrong as blkid isn't even detecting sda1 as having any valid filesystem, and neither is mount. What is showing it as ext2?
[08:47] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: gparted.
[08:47] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: uhhhhhhhh, I was able to mount /dev/sda1 as both vfat and as ext2.
[08:47] <somsip> R1cochet: this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:47] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Do *not* mount it as vfat, if it's mounted as such currently unmount it now.
[08:48] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: In fact, just unmount it now period.
[08:48] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: it's unmounted now.
[08:49] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs --no-act /dev/sda1".
[08:49] <Ramtron> can someone help me with my webcam? whenever I use it on skype or omegle it's always upside down, but only in ubuntu
[08:50] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: When I run "sudo wipefs --no-act /dev/sda1" I see both an entry of 0x438 as an ext2 filesystem with a long UUID, and also an entry at offset 0x0 as a vfat labelled DellUtility.
[08:50] <Ramtron> please?
[08:51] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: This isn't actually as odd as it might seem, as filesystems store their metadata and signatures in different places, though mkfs should have overwritten the vfat signatures.
[08:51] <Ramtron> I've looked everywhere for a solution, surely someone here can help?
[08:51] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: the exact output is http://sprunge.us/cCAc
[08:51] <R1cochet> awesome. thank you guys very much
[08:54] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: hm, so should I have wipefs remove the vfat signature?
[08:54] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Yes, I'm triple checking the exact command (since it's somewhat dangerous).
[08:54] <Ramtron> ????
[08:55] <chef_0_0> How do I stop a runit service?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs --no-act -o 0x0 /dev/sda1".
[08:56] <chef_0_0> I have nginx running I need to stop it , If I kill -9 runsv + nginx, it still again and again spinns up
[08:56] <chef_0_0> please help
[08:56] <Fudge> any ideas on ralink 2850 i think it is eeepc, i can see a few wireless networks but not my own...
[08:56] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/NKUg
[08:57] <Ramtron> first person to help me gets my eternal love
[08:57] <lfaraone> chef_0_0: I think http://smarden.org/runit/sv.8.html might be useful.
[08:57] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: That looks good. Now let's do it for real, "sudo wipefs -o 0x0 /dev/sda1".
[08:57] <Ramtron> plzplzplzplz
[08:58] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Stellar.
[08:58] <ikonia> stop it
[08:58] <lfaraone> !repeat | Ramtron
[08:58] <ikonia> Ramtron: if someone can help, they will, saying plzplzplzp is just pointless
[08:58] <Ramtron> i've searched
[08:58] <Ramtron> and i can't find a way to fix it
[08:58] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Ran. What should I do now?
[08:59] <deper29> Ramtron: turn your camera upside down
[08:59] <Fudge> thats an interesting problem
[08:59] <Ramtron> it's on my laptop.
[08:59] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: After that, immediately "sudo fsck /dev/sda1". Hopefully there's been no corruption, but it's best to confirm (and unfortunately there may have been data corruption which fsck won't be able to detect or fix).
[08:59] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: oh, now wipefs reports another dellUtility marker at 0x1fe.
[08:59] <Fudge> unity-3d?
[08:59] <deper29> Jordan_U: why not just repartition it with parted?
[09:00] <Ramtron> how can i see what kind of webcam i have so i can search further
[09:00] <Ramtron> i have ubuntu 12.04
[09:00] <Fudge> Ramtron  ubuntu-3d?
[09:00] <Ramtron> nope
[09:00] <Fudge> Ramtron  cat .dmrc
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: "lsusb" will probably list it.
[09:00] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: fsck said it is clean, but mounting without -t still causes "more filesystems detected"
[09:01] <Ramtron> [Desktop]
[09:01] <Ramtron> Session=cinnamon2d
[09:01] <ikonia> cinnamon....
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Though remember that if you want to post more than one line in this channel, use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[09:01] <Ramtron> thanks it did
[09:01] <ikonia> Ramtron: did you get that from a PPA?
[09:01] <Ramtron> ppa?
[09:01] <lfaraone> !ppa | Ramtron
[09:01] <ikonia> !info cinnamon
[09:01] <Ramtron> i think i just got it from google
[09:01] <Ramtron> why?
[09:02] <ikonia> you didn't get it from google
[09:02] <Fudge> Ramtron  logout and choose ubuntu-3d or unity-3d and see if it still does it, or bypass compiz and use 2d for a test
[09:02] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Lets get rid of the other signature as well then. (I don't know why wipefs didn't list it initially).
[09:02] <ikonia> Ramtron: the cinnamon desktop is not supplied by ubuntu and has come from a 3rd party
[09:02] <Ramtron> so you think cinnamon might be the problem?
[09:03] <Ramtron> i'll try logging out then
[09:03] <Ramtron> thanks
[09:03] <Fudge> video test in gstreamer-properties and see if it is correct way up there Ramtron
[09:03] <ikonia> I don't know what cinnamon PPA updates
[09:03] <Ramtron> how do i do that?
[09:03] <Fudge> i tried it, didnt like it went straight back to unity
[09:03] <Ramtron> i just like it cause it's themable
[09:03] <Fudge> Ramtron  type the command into a terminal
[09:04] <ikonia> Ramtron: yes, but it's also not provided by ubuntu
[09:04] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: nothing else listed now.
[09:04] <ikonia> Ramtron: you need to weigh up "themes" against software that is supported and guarenteed compatible with ubuntu and associated applications
[09:04] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Can you pastebin the new output of "sudo wipefs --no-act /dev/sda1"? (or figure out the command on your own, now that I remember that this is just a /boot/ partition I don't think quite as much paranoia about wipefs is needed).
[09:04] <Ramtron> is there any others similar to cinnamon that are?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: You had wipefs wipe it?
[09:05] <Fudge> Ramtron  I agree with ikonia
[09:05] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Just did, yes.
[09:05] <Fudge> just listen and put that aside, you asked for help with webcams?
[09:05] <Ramtron> yessir
[09:05] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: and I can now mount without -t. Shall I try rebooting?
[09:05] <SpaceRocket> how to change disk encryption passphrase ?
[09:05] <Fudge> we've given you two options, try them, run gstreamer-properties and do the video test
[09:06] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: First "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1".
[09:06] <narutolinux> hello
[09:06] <Ramtron> ok in gstreamer it wasn't upside down
[09:06] <narutolinux> anyone here good at renaming multiple files using command 'rename'
[09:06] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: no errors.
[09:06] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Then yes, try rebooting.
[09:06] <Fudge> have you isntalled any additional drivers from settings manager Ramtron
[09:06] <Fudge> installed
[09:07] <Ramtron> i searched for them when i first installed ubuntu yeah
[09:07] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: :( still getting the same error by grub.
[09:08] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: From the Ubuntu 12.10 liveCD, "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda".
[09:08] <Fudge> did you install a driver then Ramtron , take a look
[09:08] <Ramtron> i installed all the available ones i meant
[09:09] <Ramtron> yup
[09:09] <Ramtron> didn't find any new ones
[09:09] <Fudge> Ramtron  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596924
[09:09] <Fudge> that may help you
[09:09] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Installation finished, no error reported.
[09:09] <Ramtron> i do have an asus
[09:09] <Fudge> no garuntees though
[09:09] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Many times laptop manufacturers will deal with cameras being installed upside down in their laptops by fixing it in their Windows drivers (having the drivers flip the image as needed), rather than making sure they get installed right side up.
[09:09] <Fudge> Jordan_U  I thought the same but the video test was the right way
[09:10] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: annnnnnndd same error.
[09:10] <Ramtron> yeah but it's fine on widnows
[09:10] <Ramtron> windows*
[09:10] <SpaceRocket> how to change disk encryption passphrase ?
[09:11] <Ramtron> this might work if it does what it says it does
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Because of this GNU/Linux developers have needed to find such devices and add code to work around this as well. It seems that the gstreamer based code knows about your particular hardware quirk, but whatever other app your using uses a different set of libraries for grabbing the video that doesn't.
[09:11] <Ramtron> makes sense
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: What app are you using to try to grab video from the webcam?
[09:12] <Ramtron> skype or a flash based one on omegle
[09:12] <deper29> lfaraone: are you in the livecd now?
[09:12] <Fudge> SpaceRocket  cryptsetup?
[09:12] <lfaraone> deper29: rebooted back into it, yeah.
[09:13] <Fudge> SpaceRocket  if you know the passphrase
[09:13] <SpaceRocket> Fudge, I'm using full disk encryption created by Ubuntu 12.10 installation,  how to use cryptsetup ?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Indeed neither of those use gstreamer. Empathy, Cheese, and PiTiVi will probably have right side up video, like gstreamer-properties does, for whatever good that does you.
[09:14] <Ramtron> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398551_440734635981195_1343642189_n.jpg
[09:14] <SpaceRocket> Fudge, sudo cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/sda ?
[09:14] <deper29> lfaraone: after you did the grub install, did you do a grub-update?
[09:14] <Fudge> SpaceRocket  i donno mate i just googled it, cryptsetup lucksaddkey /dev/sda# where # is the disk
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: I'm assuming you didn't mean to post that picture. Please don't do it again.
[09:14] <CruX|> wxwidgets on my kubuntu are linked with GTK
[09:14] <Fudge> but i would read the man page and google more, google ubuntu disk pass phrase change
[09:14] <CruX|> and looks VERY UGLY
[09:14] <umer> hello everyone....can any one help me with my wireless device ?
[09:14] <CruX|> how can I swi9tch them into qt backend ?
[09:14] <lfaraone> deper29: not the most recent time, no.
[09:14] <deper29> !help | CruX|
[09:14] <lfaraone> deper29: but I have done so tonight.
[09:15] <CruX|> is there any wxqt package ?
[09:15] <deper29> lfaraone: I believe you have to do that after re-installing grub
[09:15] <lfaraone> deper29: k.
[09:15] <deper29> does sudo blkid recognize sda1?
[09:15] <aaas> i have 2 raspberry pis that wont x11 forward,  (i get 'cannot open display:localhost:10.0), it does work with a third ubuntu machine (xforwarding is enabled in the putty sessions, tried 2 xservers) any ideas?
[09:16] <Jordan_U> deper29: lfaraone: update-grub just re-writes the /boot/grub/grub.cfg. Since lfaraone is seeing a grub rescue shell, grub hasn't even gotten to the point where it's reading the grub.cfg.
[09:17] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please re-run boot info script.
[09:17] <homo> http://hackfacebookaccount.org/?ref=834810
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[09:17] <FloodBot1> homo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <umer> guys i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 and my wireless driver isnt working.i have installed the propritery driver that ubuntu has using the additional driver but nothing..can anyone help?
[09:19] <antonio_> Does anyone know how to send a free fax via ubuntu?
[09:20] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/TZEA
[09:20] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Did you run the grub-install command I gave you?
[09:21] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Yes.
[09:21] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Did grub-install give any output?
[09:21] <Ramtron> why does it say command not found for "sudo aptitude update"
[09:21] <notwist> Ramtron: dont use aptitude, use apt-get
[09:21] <notwist> Ramtron: sudo apt-get update
[09:21] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: "Installation finished. No error reported."
[09:21] <Ramtron> thanks
[09:22] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: What is the output of "grub-install --version" from the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[09:22] <notwist> Ramtron: note that "update" only updates repository lists, do "upgrade" to actually upgrade the packets
[09:22] <Ramtron> i dunno i'm just following instructions
[09:22] <Ramtron> no idea what i'm doing
[09:23] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: 2.00-7ubuntu11
[09:23] <notwist> Ramtron: you're making sure your updated programs are up to date
[09:23] <notwist> Ramtron: by running "update" it checks for new versions, by running "upgrade" you actually install those new versions
[09:24] <Ramtron> ooh, i see, well hopefully this fixes it then
[09:24] <Ramtron> still upside down :(
[09:24] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: I think that you do have UEFI firmware, and you just don't know it.
[09:25] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: from googling my hardware model, my firmware is UEFI-based, but Dell shipped it with UEFI disabled.
[09:25] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Uh, if I have uefi, should I install grub differently?
[09:25] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --target=i386-pc --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda".
[09:25] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Similarly, no error reported.
[09:26] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Yes, but this time it installed grub for BIOS :) (hopefully).
[09:27] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: rebooting after doing that gave me the same rescue prompt and error.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Then I'm completely confused.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Can you run boot info script one more time?
[09:27] <antonio_> Does anyone know how to send a free fax via ubuntu?
[09:29] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/iOVO
[09:32] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --debug --target=i386-pc --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda" and please pastebin the full output.
[09:33] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/aHjg
[09:36] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: I think that boot info script is simply reporting the wrong version of grub, but that still leaves the question of what's going wrong.
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