[00:00] <Losha> tijucas: your .bashrc is a link to a (presumably) nonexistent file (Dropbox/diego/etc/bashrc) !!!
[00:00] <tijucas> ok..
[00:00] <tijucas> hehe
[00:01] <zaxonspox> tijucas: how it happened?
[00:01] <zaxonspox> tijucas: you move it, or what?
[00:01] <gabrielcz> Anyone can help my whith apache virtualhosts?
[00:01] <moreia> I'd settle for help forcing a version from aptitude. I only know how to do it in the gui.
[00:01] <gabrielcz> I allways go to /var/www default site
[00:01] <moreia> gabrielcz: depends on your question.
[00:01] <unknown_> Hi, is there any easy way to play unprotected WMV files on Ubuntu x64? (on 32bit works fine with w32codecs installed) with
[00:01] <tijucas> zaxonspox: ok, my bad:)
[00:01] <Outlier> Losha: I'll keep that in mind in case 8.04 objects to the hardware.
[00:02] <gabrielcz> moreia: so.. can you? :)
[00:02] <Losha> zaxonspox: the 'offical' pastebin for this channel is currently http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[00:02] <Typos_King> unkown_:   I use Xine-UI, it uses its own codecs, it does .wmv files fine in 32bit... not sure on 64 :)
[00:02] <zaxonspox> Losha: yes, i gave this link some guy, he paste some code, gave me a link and i was not able to view it - sayed "Register!"
[00:02] <Losha> Outlier: how much of a workout do you want to give your hardware. An overnight memtest is good for the memory, and there are various benchmarks people run to exercise cpu etc...
[00:03] <moreia> gabrielcz: What's the question?
[00:03] <gabrielcz> moreia: I need to use virtualhosts on apache 2.2
[00:03] <gabrielcz> I set all, but allways goes to default site.
[00:03] <Losha> zaxonspox: very annoying. It's because that site changed its policy...
[00:03] <gabrielcz> I copy to on working server the /site-availabla/ configuration
[00:03] <moreia> gabrielcz: can you pastebin your virtualhost definition?
[00:03] <gabrielcz> I use a2ensite to enable it
[00:03] <Outlier> Losha: mostly I'm testing the network connection; been having headaches with it all week.
[00:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> zaxonspox, you can protect you pastebin so only resgistered users can edit/view it
[00:04] <gabrielcz> ok moreia
[00:04] <Losha> Outlier: wifi or wired?
[00:04] <moreia> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[00:04] <zaxonspox> Losha: so i wont be able to further use ubuntu.paste ?
[00:04] <polydeuces> Anyone have any experience installing Intel video drivers onto Ubuntu 9.10?
[00:04] <Losha> zaxonspox: you should switch to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com....
[00:05] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and sometimes when my wireless isn't able to connect immediatly it will bring up the "authentication required by wireless network" screen and prompt me to enter my wireless password eventhough I have already entered it previously and it is supposed to have it saved. Does anyone know anything I could try to fix this issue?
[00:05] <Outlier> Losha: wired.  I have dual uplinks, and one of them keeps failing.   I put together a dedicated box to document it.
[00:05] <moreia> gabrielcz: (and paste the URL here when you're done. But maybe you knew that.)
[00:05] <Glowball> polydeuces: Here, they have always worked when selected through System > Administration > Hardware drivers. But I guess you already tried that?
[00:05] <zaxonspox> Losha: ok, but it isnt looks like from ubuntu :P
[00:06] <polydeuces> Glowball: I haven't. I'm a total noob! I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 yesterday.
[00:06] <polydeuces> Thank you! I'll give that a try and let you know how it goes
[00:06] <Glowball> polydeuces: Aha, well then, try it you, it's very simple ;)
[00:06] <zaxonspox> Glowball: Intel drivers were never ther. It was always a problem with Intel drivers
[00:06] <moreia> fuzzybunny69y: if you close the request (in my experience anyway) it eventually notices that it already has the password.
[00:06] <gabrielcz> moreia:  jejejejej  when I wes to copy and paste you...  I found the problem :D
[00:06] <Glowball> Oh, damn
[00:06] <Glowball> He said Intel
[00:06] <Losha> Outlier: very nasty. Unless it's very uncommon hardware, most any linux should support it I would think...
[00:06] <gabrielcz> moreia: thanks you anyways dude ! :P  mistaken on serveralias name :D
[00:06] <moreia> gabrielcz: So I helped!
[00:06] <Glowball> Sorry, it's 1 AM
[00:07] <Glowball> polydeuces: My mistake, I was wrong, those are for NVidia drivers
[00:07] <Glowball> It's 1 AM, I think I'm going to bed.
[00:07] <polydeuces> Oh, ouch. Yeah, the screen was blank. So what do you think I should do?
[00:07] <gabrielcz> moreia: you know...  we need to read more :P jejeje   so, thanks
[00:07] <polydeuces> IS there a way to update intel drivers?
[00:07] <zaxonspox> polydeuces: what your Intel chip?
[00:07] <Maletor> I have an error that I get on boot http://gist.github.com/371506. When I restart into recovery mode and hit reconfigure packages I get this error: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2). When I try and do failsafeX mode I get a dialog box but my keyboard and mouse, which have always worked in the past, stop working. Nothing else can go wrong
[00:07] <Maletor> anyone help me?
[00:07] <polydeuces> it's the 945 chipset family
[00:07] <polydeuces> for acer aspire one AOA150
[00:08] <zaxonspox> polydeuces: my condolences, problematic issue
[00:08] <joshdreamland> Can anyone tell me how to allocate more space for persistent files on my Live USB?
[00:08] <polydeuces> oh nuuuu
[00:08] <moreia> So, um, about reverting back to pre-shredder Thunderbird? Any advice on specifying the version in aptitude?
[00:08] <joshdreamland> Using 9.10, AMD 64
[00:08] <Glowball> polydeuces: Well, ask somebody else in here, they probably know better than me :)
[00:08] <daftykins> joshdreamland: you just drag the slider to use more space... inside USB startup disk creator
[00:08] <polydeuces> So zaxon, is there no way to update them currently?
[00:09] <joshdreamland> daftykins: I already have the thing running on the USB; do I have to erase and start over?
[00:09] <zaxonspox> polydeuces: i feel like experienced linux user, but i was tried to MAKE drivers for Intel 82845 with no result
[00:09] <polydeuces> Ouch, well then.
[00:09] <polydeuces> Thanks for your help!
[00:09] <daftykins> joshdreamland: that would probably be the easiest way
[00:10] <joshdreamland> I've made a couple changes I'd not much like to lose; isn't there a command line to just add more space to the persistent account?
[00:10] <zaxonspox> polydeuces: go and search Intel linux drivers site, mayby you will have more luck, the fact is that it is easier with 945 than with 845
[00:10] <Outlier> Losha: I hope so.
[00:10] <polydeuces> Hm, okay I'll give that a try.
[00:10] <daftykins> joshdreamland: look into FAT partition resizing then
[00:11] <Losha> Outlier: it's been quite a long time since I've seen anyone complain that a wired nic was unsupported. Wireless, on the other hand...
[00:12] <joshdreamland> daftykins: It's not a physical partition; it's a filesize limit stored somewhere, as far as I can tell
[00:12] <Losha> moreia: it's best done from synaptic, via packages->force version....
[00:12] <joshdreamland> I opened it in GParted; there was only one partition and it was roughly half full
[00:12] <switch10_> joshdreamland: just backup, reinstall on the USB, and then restore..
[00:12] <daftykins> ^
[00:12] <moreia> Losha: indeed. But i'm getting errors there and they're meaningless to me: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[00:13] <zaxonspox> joshdreamland: i think there is no way to resize USB liveCD starage capacity
[00:13] <Outlier> Losha: I'm sure it is.  It's the motherboard drivers I would be more concerned about, but we'll see.
[00:13] <moreia> Losha: also " E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[00:14] <Losha> moreia: sorry, out of my league. You can ask here every 15 minutes until someone who knows replies...
[00:14] <moreia> Losha: sigh.
[00:14] <Losha> moreia: yeah...
[00:15] <joshdreamland> switch10_: can you back up without backing up partition size, too?
[00:15] <joshdreamland> As far as I can tell, there is a file on this flash drive that behaves as a definite-sized partition
[00:15] <Maletor> I have an error that I get on boot http://gist.github.com/371506. When I restart into recovery mode and hit reconfigure packages I get this error: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2). When I try and do failsafeX mode I get a dialog box but my keyboard and mouse, which have always worked in the past, stop working.  When I install the driver, it always switches the screen to use the nvidia card, how would I set it back to use only the Intel card while also keeping the driver installed?
[00:16] <odie5533> Is there a reason to use the official xubuntu release rather than installing vanilla and adding the xfce desktop?
[00:16] <moreia> daftykins: Could be a way of expressing degree of frustration.
[00:16] <joshdreamland> eklo: Whatever reason you have to do that, I promise you it's not worth it ;_;
[00:16] <Losha> SCC-Faust: don't do that.  When I restart into recovery mode and hit reconfigure packages I get this error: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2). When I try and do failsafeX mode I get a dialog box but my keyboard and mouse, which have always worked in the past, stop working. Nothing else can go wrong
[00:17] <Maletor> anyone help me?
[00:17] <FloodBot3> Maletor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <Losha> Maletor: be careful about what promised you make...
[00:18] <Losha> Maletor: be careful about what promises you make...
[00:18] <Maletor> Regardless, I need help.
[00:18] <Losha> Maletor: I wish I could help, but you have a complex setup...
[00:19] <joshdreamland> So many suicide threats in one day!
[00:19] <JULinuxUser> i need help with my wireless
[00:19] <Maletor> How can you know that?
[00:19] <colorlessprism> joshdreamland, its a tough life man...lol
[00:19] <Typos_King> Maletor:   boot using a live-cd/usb and from there, run e2fsck -c; on it, say your install is at sda1 then -> sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1
[00:19] <daftykins> !ask | JULinuxUser
[00:19] <odie5533> Is there a light ubuntu which only install gnome and the necessities so I can install the apps I want?
[00:19] <maginot> Maletor, did you tried removing and reinstalling usplash? And what is the ubuntu version you`re using?
[00:19] <eklo> in my opinion it is worth it, since in another system with two gtx 280s, the driver installs and runs fine also on the 2nd card even though screen is only displayed through first card, I don't know whether or not second card is sending a blank screen signal, but should be possible with mixed intel/nvidia
[00:19] <daftykins> !alternate | odie5533
[00:19] <frodo> Do anyone know how to sync an iPod Nano third generation with Ubuntu?  Everything I'm reading says you cant do it without a special  hack that removed from the Internet.  Maybe there is a new method?
[00:19] <odie5533> Or do most people use the official ubuntu disks?
[00:19] <colorlessprism> odie5533, its called kubuntu
[00:20] <daftykins> !ipod | frodo
[00:20] <odie5533> colorlessprism: that's for KDE though
[00:20] <31NAAPG5D> has anybody use DEltacopy to make bakups from a windows client to an ubuntu server?
[00:20] <daftykins> !minimal > odie5533
[00:20] <colorlessprism> odie5533, i know buts its about as light as it gets
[00:20] <Maletor> maginot 9.10
[00:20] <Typos_King> odie5533:  the regular install cds have that already, gnome and the basics, and you install whatever you want later on
[00:20] <Maletor> maginor sorry 10.4
[00:20] <maco> Maletor: #ubuntu+1
[00:20] <JULinuxUser> I have a dell inpsiron 1501 with the dell wireless 1390 and it  wont connect to the internet via wireless can someone help with connecting via wireless
[00:20] <maginot> Maletor, so, try on #ubuntu+1
[00:21] <Typos_King> Maletor:   boot using a live-cd/usb and from there, run e2fsck -c; on it, say your install is at sda1 then -> sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1
[00:21] <Maletor> i did, no one can help me there
[00:21] <Maletor> my install is at /dev/mapper/vg-root
[00:21] <maginot> Maletor, here isn't support for lucid because no one answered there, sorry, lucid is still beta
[00:21] <maginot> !lucid
[00:21] <maco> Maletor: oh jeez lvm....i never expect lvm to work in unstable releases
[00:21] <odie5533> Of all the releases, do most people use plain ubuntu?
[00:21] <nerdy_kid> how do i resume dd copying session?
[00:21] <maco> odie5533: yes
[00:21] <frodo> daftykins: I already looked at that.  It references a file to download that is no longer available.  I'm looking for an alternate method that would work with the third generation Nano.  Thanks.
[00:22] <Maletor> this will not be fixed in one week, it doesn't matter that it is lucid
[00:22] <odie5533> I think I'll go with that then. Thanks maco.
[00:22] <maginot> nerdy_kid, first you need the offset where you stoped
[00:22] <colorlessprism> odie5533, good luck man
[00:22] <Typos_King> !bcm
[00:22] <JULinuxUser> ok
[00:22] <Maletor> i am running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Immediate-configure=0
[00:22] <Typos_King> ahemm hehe
[00:22] <maginot> Maletor, yes, it matter for the channel, this is offtopic!
[00:22] <Maletor> so that i can bypass the util-linux error found in the gist
[00:22] <maginot> ubottu > Maletor
[00:23] <Typos_King> JULinuxUser:  hold the mayo, I know the Dell pcmcia cards use broadcomm chipsets, lemme get a link
[00:23] <frodo> !RockBox
[00:23] <maginot> ubottu, lucid > Maletor
[00:23] <Typos_King> !sta
[00:23] <maco> Maletor: um fsck isnt an error. its what FIXES filesystem errors
[00:23] <maco> Maletor: like i said, lvm on an unstable release...bad idea
[00:23] <nerdy_kid> maginot um....how would i get that? the disk image i was copying is 2.6Gb done out of 7.  Thats not in anyway precise though.
[00:23] <Typos_King> JULinuxUser:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:23] <maginot> maco, please, let stay on topic, lucid chat is on #ubuntu+1
[00:24] <maco> maginot: yes i know but *someone* keeps whinging here...
[00:24] <Maletor> you maco?
[00:24] <odie5533> I love the anl.gov downloads. I should drive over to Argonne and thank the tech people for their great mirrors.
[00:24] <JULinuxUser> thanks bye
[00:24] <Typos_King> JULinuxUser:  as I said... .the Dell pcmcia cards have broadcomm chipsets and they use the b43 drivers
[00:25] <maginot> nerdy_kid, well, it normally tells you when you stop dd, and you could "try"couting the bytes and making the offset, but never done that, theorically works
[00:25] <nerdy_kid> maginot uh oh...ok ill try and see if i still have output in my terminal; thanks :D
[00:26] <koe> how to completely remove a program ?
[00:26] <koe> for example all files that belongs to ldap
[00:26] <koe> ?
[00:26] <colorlessprism> koe, synaptic -->completly remove
[00:26] <maginot> nerdy_kid, I really recommend you to redo your dd, you can probably corrupt your image
[00:27] <koe> from terminal ... I have only ssh access
[00:27] <maginot> koe, apt-get purge <package>
[00:27] <nerdy_kid> maginot well this image isnt actually that important, ill be daring :)  ok, dd copied<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes when i terminated it.
[00:28] <maginot> nerdy_kit, okay, take a look at "man dd"
[00:28] <Typos_King> koe:    sudo dpkg -rP PACKAGENAME;
[00:29] <maginot> Typos_King, that way you suppose he have a package .deb and not from apt cache
[00:29] <maginot> koe, Typos_King, something like dpkg -rP xchat don't work, apt-get purge xchat  will remove the xchat installed on the system.
[00:30] <Typos_King> k
[00:31] <colorlessprism> when 9.10UNR boots the notification area occasionally winds up on the right of my clock, i have the default panel setup. any ideas?
[00:31] <kermit-> which channel has shell gurus?
[00:31] <kermit-> specifically tcsh
[00:32] <maginot> kermit, have you tried #tcsh or maybe something like #sh or #bash?
[00:32] <kermit-> i tried #tcsh
[00:32] <kermit-> not #sh or #bash
[00:32] <maginot> kermit-, well, isn't exacly the same thing, but maybe someone could give a help.
[00:35] <tm0> Hey everyone, can someone help me figure out how to get my external drive working on linux?
[00:35] <maginot> tm0, is an USB drive?
[00:35] <tm0> maginot, yes it is.
[00:36] <colorlessprism> when 9.10UNR boots the notification area occasionally winds up on the right of my clock and i have to move it back to the left, i have the default panel setup. any ideas?
[00:36] <maginot> tm0, when you plug it what is the last messages dmesg shows you? Pastebin, please
[00:36] <maginot> !pastebin
[00:36] <c00lryguy> I installed the nautilus-open-terminal package but I still dont see the "Open Terminal Here.." option in my right click menu
[00:36] <maginot> c00lryguy, if I remmember isn`t with right mouse click, but on the menu bar...
[00:37] <c00lryguy> lemme check..
[00:37] <nerdy_kid> maginot arg that man page is confusing; i think ill just redo the whole thing :S thanks for your help :D
[00:37] <tripleb> THIS ONLY HAPPENS ON REDDIT comment pages!! what is this thing with reddit on firefox. It starts scrolling down and doesnt stop. This after I touch the bottom small arrow. But not every time.  ubuntu 9.10
[00:37] <Dezine> Is there anyway to get the NotifyOSD bubbles to show up right under the top bar instead of having that awkward space above it?
[00:37] <maginot> nerdy_kid, the parameter you want is skip
[00:37] <c00lryguy> maginot: nothin
[00:37] <tm0> maginot well thats not the problem. If i turn off and on it shows. I just can't mount it in natulis :(
[00:37] <maginot> c00lryguy, well, I'm not on ubuntu now, sorry.
[00:38] <maginot> tm0, if you turn off and on, what do you mean... it mounts or do not mount? Where it is showing when you turn on and off? Can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[00:38] <c00lryguy> !help nautilus-open-terminal
[00:39] <tm0> maginot, it poops with a windows and a random folder name containing all my files
[00:39] <colorlessprism> tm0, random folder name have number / letters?
[00:39] <maginot> tm0, okay, so nautilus is showing the disk... where is the problem, don`t get it so far
[00:40] <colorlessprism> tm0, its probably the UUID and is ok
[00:40] <tm0> maginot, if i boot with it, i get nothing. Cololessprism the name is "C4686E88686E7956"
[00:40] <colorlessprism> tm0, its probably the UUID and is ok
[00:40] <maginot> tm0, I think you should remake your question, I think you want that your drive automatically mount always on some folder
[00:40] <tm0> maginot, i want it to at lesat show up in places. I can make it startup with a shell script from there then at least
[00:41] <maginot> tm0, okay, so when you click on Computer you can't access your disk from there
[00:41] <lightbricko> How can I play nintendo 64 with kaillera support on ubuntu?
[00:41] <tm0> maginot, not from start up.
[00:43] <maginot> tm0, okay. Pastebin output of Dmesg AND output of "udevadm monitor" after you plug the drive (start udevadm with that command and plug the drive)
[00:43] <nerdy_kid> maginot ok sorry i dont mean to be a pain (i dont know that much about how hard drives work)  so i would do skip<PHONE_NUMBER>  ?
[00:43] <maginot> nerdy_kid, that was the least copied byte?
[00:44] <johnyquest> hello all
[00:44] <WXZ> anyone know how to setup different panels for different workspaces?
[00:44] <colorlessprism> hello johnny
[00:44] <nerdy_kid> maginot that was were dd stopped last time.  so i think the command would look like dd if=/dev/sdb of=card.img bs=4M skip<PHONE_NUMBER>  oflag=append  does that look right?
[00:45] <maginot> nerdy_key, so you will need something like "dd if=<input_drive> skip=2721054720 > disk_image_unfinished
[00:45] <johnyquest> how do i check in bash if an element belongs to an array ... for example if the array is A=(3 4 5 6) how can i check if any user input x belongs to this array or not?
[00:45] <Pici> johnyquest: best to ask bash programming questions in #bash
[00:45] <tm0> maginot http://pastebin.com/wyQN0PrE
[00:46] <haavaros> Hi! Unison is denied permisson to create a folder via SSH on my server, although I've logged in as the owner of the folder, and the folder is chmod'ed to 777. Any tips?
[00:46] <johnyquest> Pici, thanks for the suggestion
[00:46] <nerdy_kid> maginot thanks! :D
[00:46] <maginot> nerdy_key, and sure, repeat any previous switch used on you previous dd command
[00:47] <nerdy_kid> maginot yeah thanks :)
[00:47] <Hal_> can someone help im having trouble setting up file sharing between a MS and a ubuntu machine
[00:48] <maginot> tm0, well, I can't see any thing about dmesg, which I asked you some times already, but udev shows everything is fine, did you have any gvfs message on your logs ?
[00:48] <colorlessprism> Hal_, unless special terms are met they can only share on a FAT32 partition
[00:48] <Hal_> im talking over a network"?
[00:49] <tic^> What channel is remix support in?
[00:49] <maginot> Hal_, yes, you are talking on ubuntu channel of freenode network.
[00:49] <alejandro> can someone help me get HDMI to tv support for 9.10?
[00:49] <colorlessprism> Hal_, me too...ubuntu cannot read ntfs without the ntfs package and windows cant read ext w/o package
[00:50] <tm0> maginot i added it under the udev. I just didn't copy the command. It was too large to post it all. Also none.
[00:50] <Pici> colorlessprism: I think Hal_ means that hes trying to share the drive across a network, not on the same computer.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
[00:50] <tm0> maginot should i just accept its a limitation at the moment?
[00:50] <kermit> kermit-: -_-
[00:50] <maginot> tm0, well, you really should take a look at your logs on /var/logs
[00:50] <Hal_> colorlessprism  so i have to go from a fat on the MS machine to a fat on the ubuntu machine?
[00:51] <terroh8er> hello, i have ubuntu 9.10 64 bit and 32 bit on CDs and i didn't label them. im also out of CDs. is there a way to tell which is which?
[00:51] <signornessuno> i can't mount a disk, here the error sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/cdrom0
[00:51] <signornessuno> mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock
[00:51] <Typos_King> terroh8er:    boot from either, and check in it :)
[00:51] <colorlessprism> pici, i think unless windows is on FAT32 linux cannot reach with the ntfs package, and windows cannot reach linux without an ext package, making a share folder on fat32 makes the process easier
[00:51] <Pici> Hal_: No. samba does not care about the filesystem.
[00:51] <maginot> tm0, if you are having a problem with devices not being shown on Computer so it is probably a gvfs or polkit problem, I could tell you that is a gconf problem, but that is more probable when you change something manually
[00:51] <Hal_> Pici yes 2 seperate machines over a network
[00:52] <Pici> colorlessprism: samba is not filesystem dependent.
[00:52] <Pici> Hal_: Are you trying to share from the Ubuntu computer, or from the Windows computer?
[00:52] <Hal_> Pici is their a guide to setting them up to talk to each other?
[00:52] <tm0> maginot thanks for your help very much. I'll look into those. Was just hoping to have some exam music. Thank you anyways
[00:52] <colorlessprism> Pici, i have had 0 luck with samba, i have never ever been able to get it to work...such is life though
[00:52] <Hal_> Pici both ways
[00:52] <adamas> greetings
[00:52]  * maginot is wondering if anyone knows why mac osx xchat doen't work the tab key for nick completition
[00:53] <colorlessprism> maginot, setting maybe?
[00:53] <Typos_King> maginot:   check in its settings, it may not be enabled
[00:53] <adamas> whcih format should I use for an external HDD of 1.5 TB wich will be used in LIN and WIN?
[00:53] <haavaros> Anyone know how to set up unison via ssh? I'm getting a permission denial, even though I'm loggin in as the owner of the folder I'm synchin to
[00:53] <maginot> Hmm ... settings doesn't open =X I will quit and open again =D
[00:53] <colorlessprism> maginot, ive never been special enough to own a mac...never been the artistic type
[00:53] <Typos_King> for whatever odd reason
[00:53] <Pici> Hal_: If you install the smbfs package, you can connect to your Windows computer from Places>Connect to network.  If you want a more permanent method, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[00:54] <Typos_King> adamas:    *nix can do ntfs just fine, that'd do I'd think
[00:54] <carlita> carlita
[00:54] <Hal_> ty PICI
[00:55] <adamas> so ext* under win is a worse option than ntfs under lin, is this?
[00:55] <WXZ> anyone know how to setup different panels for different workspaces?
[00:55] <Pici> adamas: I agree.
[00:55] <adamas> ok
[00:55] <alejandro> can someone help me get HDMI to tv support for 9.10?
[00:55] <adamas> thanks
[00:55] <craigbass1976> is there a way to upgrade right now from hardy to 10.4 beta, or do I need to wait?  Hoping to avoid a clean install.
[00:55] <adamas> byes
[00:55] <grendal_prime> hey guys
[00:55] <Pici> colorlessprism : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:55] <Pici> colorlessprism: sorry, mistab
[00:56] <mameth> @wxz there's no such thing, sorry
[00:56] <Kentrel> Is there a way of saving a list of all the packages I've installed since installing Ubuntu, so if I ever have to reinstall I can just put them into a script and get them all again?
[00:56] <Pici> craigbass1976: please ask in #ubuntu+!
[00:56] <grendal_prime> buy guys...ladies
[00:56] <maginot> Now is working... =) j
[00:56] <grendal_prime> others?
[00:56] <Pici> craigbass1976: argh, #ubuntu+1
[00:56] <Losha> adamas: I agree with Typos_King. ntfs is the way to go....
[00:56] <colorlessprism> Pici, thats funny, i was thinking i diddnt say anything about that
[00:56] <aguitel> craigbass1976, only from scratch
[00:56] <craigbass1976> Pici, just saw that posted to colorlessprism.  Sorry
[00:56] <colorlessprism> Pici, type much? lol
[00:56] <craigbass1976> aguitel, @#^@  !!!
[00:57] <Pici> aguitel: Please check your facts before you make suggestions.
[00:57] <Losha> Kentrel: yes, at the bottom of the dpkg man page, see "To make a local copy of the package selection states"
[00:57] <hashed_> Kentrel: take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[00:57] <colorlessprism> maginot, YEAH!!
[00:57] <Kentrel> ah okay thanks
[00:57] <colorlessprism> maginot, ive never been special enough to own a mac...never been the artistic type
[00:58] <Pici> craigbass1976: See the topic in +1 regarding the release notes and how to upgrade from 9.10, but you're going to be using an unsupported version of #ubuntu until release day, things may break.
[00:58] <colorlessprism> does anyone know when shipit will be up and running again?
[00:59] <craigbass1976> Pici, I'll check.  I'm not coming from 9.10, but 9.04 (was that hardy?)
[00:59] <signornessuno> hi, i have an mp3 with 1.5 gb of mem but i can't mount it this is the error mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock, also on windows i can see the drive but i can't access and when i try to format at the end all the pc crash
[00:59] <claybustr> I tried the instructions here ( http://davesource.com/Solutions/20070912.Ubuntu-xhost.html ) for getting xhost to work on karmic, but it doesn't seem to be working. x11-xserverutils is installed, xhost claims to do its thing, but I just can't connect. No firewall on ubuntu
[01:00] <Typos_King> signornessuno:   a 1.5gb mp3?   hehe
[01:00] <Pici> colorlessprism: Probably closer to release day (29th) and/or when the UK is open to air traffic
[01:00] <signornessuno> mp3 player, sorry
[01:00] <Typos_King> that's a really long ..... radio program?
[01:00] <koe> any of you guys know about openLdap ?
[01:00] <Alcor> Whay r the several ways to backup Ubuntu"
[01:00] <colorlessprism> Pici, diddnt think about the dreaded ash cloud, id just noticed itd been down for a week or so
[01:00] <Alcor> what
[01:00] <colorlessprism> !backup Alcor
[01:00] <koe> Ive configured a server how can I test if its configured as it should ?
[01:01] <Typos_King> well... could be a book too :P
[01:01] <colorlessprism> !backup | Alcor
[01:01] <jeeves_Moss> can someone please post a pastebin of a generic apache config for a vhost?
[01:01] <Kentrel> Do I need a firewall on Ubuntu? I assumed there was one set up automatically but when I type ufw status it says its inactive
[01:01] <koe> Alcor use backupninja works realy good ...
[01:01] <Typos_King> signornessuno:   what brand name and model?
[01:01] <Pici> Kentrel: There are no ports listening by default, so no firewall rules by default.
[01:01] <wgilthorpe> hello I have a network printer setup on my ubuntu box and can print from it with all my windows boxes via "http://[computername:631]/printers/hp4180" but none of my ubuntu or mint machines see it. Please help
[01:01] <signornessuno> anycall, i don't now the model
[01:01] <Kentrel> Pici, so I don't need a firewall? I installed firestarter - do I need it?
[01:01] <Alcor> thx
[01:02] <koe> anyone can help me with openldap ?
[01:02] <Typos_King> Kentrel:    you can set rules for it, the firewall is already in the kernel loaded, and there are some Frontends for firewall rule settings, the one I know offhand will be kmyfirewall
[01:02] <SpaceCowboy40404> I am having some connection issues with setting up a Ventrilo server. Anyone here familiar with the process?
[01:02] <Pici> Kentrel: iptables is already installed, its part of your kernel.  Unless you are installing things that open ports and you don't want certain addresses to get to them, then you don't need to configure any rules with firestarter/ufw.
[01:03] <Typos_King> signornessuno:   sooo... you bought it with no name? heheh, what about on the device?  it has no letters or labels?
[01:04] <Kentrel> ok thanks
[01:04] <xcv2> wireless nic on hp desktop can associate to visible, unsecured wlan (e.g. "linksys") but not to wep, wpa, wpa2, and not even 'hidden' unsecured networks (e.g. ssid not broadcast, but otherwise open). from dmesg: [   13.053120] wlan0: register 'rndis_wlan' at usb-0000:00:1d.7-6, Wireless RNDIS device, BCM4320a based, [mac address]
[01:04] <mameth> how can i add power options like "power saver" or "high performance"? is there an application? btw i am using toshiba satellite a300blabla
[01:04] <Carb0n> How does an object refer to itself in c++? Like the java 'this' keyword
[01:04] <Carb0n> How does an object refer to itself in c++? Like the java 'this' keyword
[01:04] <Pici> Carb0n: This isn't a programming channel, please ask in ##C++ , you'll need to be registered to join though.
[01:04] <Pici> !register | Carb0n
[01:05] <Carb0n> thanks
[01:05] <signornessuno> Typos_King: no nothing useful, i try to search the model but the site is chinese
[01:05] <subone> Can anyone recommend a good music player for ubuntu? I need a GUI interface similar to something like rhythmbox, but I also need some way to control it remotely using CLI or dbus or something. i am currently using rhythmbox, but the CLI client utility doesnt have a whole lot of features... i cant see my currently playing playlist for example
[01:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> My problem I'm working on is that I have setup my ventrilo server and it is up and working, but for some reason I cant connect to it and no one else can. I have already verified that the ports on my router are open for it and that they have been forwarded to this pc for it as well. The issue has to be with some sort of firewall within ubuntu? Can anyone help?
[01:07] <mameth> subone: vlc might be a good alternative, with terminal commands you can do some remote things like playing a certain playlist etc.
[01:07] <Typos_King> signornessuno:   plug it in, and then run a -> lspci;   to see what it gives for it :), you can paste lspci dump to paste2.org or so
[01:08] <alejandro> can someone help me get HDMI to tv support for 9.10?
[01:08] <SpaceCowboy40404> Is there a firewall in ubuntu?
[01:08] <mameth> spacecowboy: for what?
[01:08] <Pici> !firewall | SpaceCowboy40404
[01:09] <Pici> SpaceCowboy40404: But there are no ports listening for things by default and thus no firewall rules by default.
[01:09] <SpaceCowboy40404> so it would not be blocking a specific port b y default?
[01:09] <SpaceCowboy40404> specifically port 3784?
[01:09] <Typos_King> SpaceCowboy40404:    you can set rules for it, the firewall is already in the kernel loaded, and there are some Frontends for firewall rule settings, the one I know offhand will be kmyfirewall
[01:10] <signornessuno> Typos_King: why lspci, it is connect via usb
[01:11] <SpaceCowboy40404> so do i just enter "ufw disable" to turn it off?
[01:11] <penthief> avahi-discover doesn't seem to work. What do I need to do?
[01:12] <Typos_King> signornessuno:   plug it in, and then run a -> lsusb;   to see what it gives for it :), you can paste lsusb dump to paste2.org or so    // then :)
[01:12] <penthief> Sorry not avahi-discover. Zeroconf service discovery.
[01:13] <signornessuno> here there is lsusb and lspci http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xbe0i8jE but nothing useful
[01:13] <SpaceCowboy40404> hmm how do i switch to root in terminal?
[01:13] <penthief> sudo bash
[01:13] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: sudo
[01:13] <Typos_King> penthief:   what's avahi for anyway?   just asking, I have it I never bothered to use it
[01:13] <jrib> !sudo | SpaceCowboy40404
[01:13] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: sudo -i for a pervasive connection
[01:14] <penthief> Typos_King: Find services and hosts on a LAN. I think...
[01:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey hey you helped me last time with my wireless
[01:14] <penthief> Typos_King: Printers, ssh servers etc
[01:14] <GrizzLyCRO> hello
[01:14] <Typos_King> penthief:   I see
[01:14] <SpaceCowboy40404> so to disable my firewall i would enter into a terminal the following: sudo ufw disable
[01:15] <WXZ> hey mameth, thanks for the answer
[01:15] <Typos_King> allo GrizzLyCRO
[01:15] <WXZ> was afk sorry
[01:15] <xcv2> help needed with karmic 32-bit, wireless usb nic (linksys wusb54gs) won't associate to hidden network. a few days of browsing LP and ubuntuforums and no closer to resolution. previous visit to this room, someone said ndiswrapper might be required, but it looks like this nic (and chipset) is intended to be supported out of the box.
[01:15] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: yeah, that looks ok, you might try "status" first to see where you are.
[01:15] <signornessuno> Typos_King: should i post also fsck? there are many errors
[01:16] <macbird> somebody speak from brazil??
[01:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> k
[01:16] <wgilthorpe> Anyone good with printer networking?
[01:16] <KB1JWQ> !br | macbird
[01:16] <GrizzLyCRO> i cant get pidgin-festival plugin to work
[01:16] <randomusr> I've just installed php-cgi, php, and apache. Apache won't parse the php files and the server want's me to save the files.
[01:16] <GrizzLyCRO> did all this
[01:16] <GrizzLyCRO> http://linuxers.org/howto/how-install-and-configure-festival-plugin-pidgin
[01:16] <Wingless> hello
[01:16] <penthief> !ask > wgilthorpe
[01:16] <GrizzLyCRO> festival works, and sounds in pidgin work
[01:16] <randomusr> is this a problem with the packages or with the apache/php proper?
[01:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey: says inactive for the status so disabling it wont accomplish anything right?
[01:17] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: that's right, what's the issue?
[01:17] <tic^> !man | SpaceCowboy40404
[01:17] <Wingless> I have a simple question: I've just installed Adobe Reader, but I don't know how to run it from the terminal.  How do I find out how to do this?
[01:17] <SpaceCowboy40404> no one can connect to my ventrillo server but is up and running
[01:18] <GrizzLyCRO> SpaceCowboy40404: are you behind a router?
[01:18] <Wingless> I want to run Adobe Reader with root privileges, so I want to either figure out how to gksudo it from the terminal (which requires its name or alias or whatever, which I don't know), or figure out how to do the equivalent of gksudo from within the Gnome GUI.
[01:18] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: also, do you have a static ip?
[01:18] <penthief> Wingless: I use evince, but if it is on your path: adob<TAB><TAB><RETURN>, hopefully.
[01:18] <Wingless> Does anybody know how to do this? It must be simple.
[01:18] <Typos_King> signornessuno:   .... no... for now... but any fsck.. errors?  you got those from 'lsusb'?
[01:18] <SpaceCowboy40404> grizzlycro: yes but i have disabled annomouse requests and forwarded the ports for this ip
[01:18] <craigbass1976> Wingless, how do you start it now?
[01:19] <wgilthorpe> I have a printer on a mint computer and i am sharing it over my network all my windows boxes will print over the network if i add the printer at http://computername:631/printers/HP4180. how do i get my ubuntu and mint boxes to do the same
[01:19] <Wingless> Applications>Office>Adobe Reader 9
[01:19] <Wingless> I'll try the tab thing
[01:19] <Wingless> nothing.
[01:19] <GrizzLyCRO> SpaceCowboy40404: can people connect to you some other way? Remote Desktop, gaming servers
[01:19] <Wingless> nothing comes up
[01:19] <craigbass1976> Wingless, how do you start it now?
[01:19] <GrizzLyCRO> also, can they ping you
[01:19] <Wingless> I start it by going to Applications>Office>Adobe Reader 9
[01:19] <Typos_King> Wingless:   adobe reader?   are you real?   that app is nothing but a resource hog, why not just get... something else like... kpdf or so
[01:19] <Wingless> But that starts it without root privileges
[01:20] <Wingless> because I need to view Japanese documents
[01:20] <SpaceCowboy40404> grizzlycro: I have no idea about that.... i applied these same server settings on my vista os (albeit a different ip) and it works fine
[01:20] <Wingless> If you can give me an easy to install viewer that handles a variety of Japanese documents and fonts
[01:20] <Wingless> then I'll be happy to use that instead
[01:20] <GrizzLyCRO> Wingless: right click on icon, add it to desktop
[01:20] <craigbass1976> Wingless, you're using GNOME?
[01:20] <Wingless> I am
[01:20] <GrizzLyCRO> then, look in properties of icon
[01:20] <craigbass1976> Wingless, Grizzly is beating me to it
[01:20] <randomusr> have new php packages been seeded to the 9.10 repos?
[01:21] <GrizzLyCRO> do you see command now? Wingless
[01:21] <signornessuno> Typos_King: no i try fsck
[01:21] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey: i am not on a statiuc ip, however i do change my ip in the .ini file everytime i log in to the server
[01:21] <Wingless> I'll give it a shot
[01:21] <Typos_King> Wingless:   I don't think that's viewer-dependent, so much as format dependent, and PDFs do that, sooo.... I use okular
[01:21] <alejandro> Does ubuntu 9.10 support HDMI?
[01:21] <GrizzLyCRO> SpaceCowboy40404: first you need to make sure that they can ping you
[01:21] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: here's a quick way to verify your public ip: wget -q -O- http://whatismyip.org/
[01:21] <GrizzLyCRO> thats first step
[01:21] <Wingless> Typos_King: all I know is that I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, so I don't know much, and Adobe Acrobat views Japanese documents, but it requires special fonts.  Moreover, Acrobat is easy to install, and I know it works.
[01:22] <randomusr> !hdmi
[01:22] <Wingless> I now have an Adobe Reader icon on my desktop
[01:22] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:22] <Kentrel> If I add "group=Kentrel" to my fstab, does that mean that when I log in with a user from that group that drive will be mounted automatically?
[01:22] <penthief> I've just seen that 10.4 supports moving tunes to and from the iPhone. Looking forward to the upgrade!
[01:22] <jrib> Kentrel: what format?
[01:22] <Wingless> GrizzLyCRO: what next?
[01:22] <Kentrel> jrib, ntfs
[01:22] <randomusr> alejandro, no hdmi
[01:22] <GrizzLyCRO> click on properties of that shortcut on desktop
[01:22] <craigbass1976> Wingless, right click and pick properties
[01:22] <Wingless> right
[01:22] <Typos_King> Wingless:   suure :).... I never said it doesn't work, other readers just use 1/20th of memory than it ^_^, hehehe, even in win32 I don't use it either
[01:22] <GrizzLyCRO> see command label?
[01:22] <jrib> Kentrel: it means the files on the drive will be mounted with group ownership Kentrel
[01:23] <alejandro> randomusr, so i can't hook my ubuntu to tv... :\ ok
[01:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey: checked it to make sure and that is the ip im using to connect to it
[01:23] <Wingless> Typos_King: does it have a good selection of japanese fonts?
[01:23] <randomusr> alejandro, you can, just not with hdmi
[01:23] <Typos_King> Wingless:   I don't think that's viewer-dependent, so much as format dependent, and PDFs do that, sooo.... I use okular
[01:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> grizzlycro: how do i do that?
[01:23] <Wingless> ah
[01:23] <Kentrel> jrib,I'm trying to set up a drive that will be automatically mounted in certain user acconts, but disabled in other accoutns
[01:23] <Pici> alejandro: You can, it depends on your hardware.  My ati card worked with hdmi out of the box.
[01:23] <Wingless> i see it
[01:23] <Wingless> acroread
[01:23] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: what are you using for a router?
[01:23] <GrizzLyCRO> SpaceCowboy40404: whats your IP?
[01:23] <jrib> Kentrel: fstab is not the way.  But what's wrong with just having it always mounted but only give certain people permission?
[01:23] <GrizzLyCRO> i will try to ping you
[01:23] <alejandro> Pici, my laptop supports HDMI
[01:23] <GrizzLyCRO> sned me in private
[01:24] <randomusr> alejandro,  you need something like TV out, svga, or other
[01:24] <Kentrel> jrib, okay, how do I do that?
[01:24] <Pici> alejandro: What video card do you have in it?
[01:24] <Wingless> So then I suppose I can just type "gksudo acroread", right?  It's a windowed program, so I assume it's using GNOME, and when you want to sudo programs that use GNOME for GUI, you have to use gksudo instead of just sudo, right?
[01:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey: linksys WRT54G
[01:24] <jrib> Kentrel: as you are doing now, just put the users in some group and only give that group permissions to the drive
[01:24] <jrib> !ntfs > Kentrel
[01:24] <jrib> !permissions > Kentrel
[01:24] <craigbass1976> Wingless, just fire up a terminal and type sudo acroread
[01:25] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: you have the port forwarded I assume?
[01:25] <Wingless> I thought you had to be careful to use gksudo sometimes and sudo other times.  What's the difference, then?
[01:25] <alejandro> well i have stock its an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD with 1695MB of memory supports directX 10
[01:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey: yes 3784 to this pc's specific address .....102
[01:25] <Kentrel> jrib, like this?  "/dev/sda1                                  /media/WinXP  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,group=Kentrel,umask=000  0  0"
[01:25] <Wingless> lolwut
[01:25] <jrib> Kentrel: no, that would give all files 777 permissions so anyone could do anything
[01:26] <Wingless> "Adobe Reader does not need to be run as a privileged user. Please remove 'sudo' from the beginning of the command.'
[01:26] <Pici> alejandro: I've never worked with intel drivers on linux, I'm unsure if they support hdmi out.
[01:26] <Kentrel> jrib, I want everyone who's part of group "Kentrel" to be able to do anything
[01:26] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: I guess if nothing else works, restart your router and try again, sometimes those linksys boxes can act a bit wierd.
[01:26] <alejandro> k
[01:26] <jrib> Kentrel: so make sure "others" get 0 permissions
[01:26] <craigbass1976> Wingless, how did you run it?
[01:26] <Pici> alejandro: Sorry :/  You may want to try doing a search in the ubuntu forums
[01:26] <xomp> how to remove a program and purge all of it's configuration files along with it?
[01:27] <Wingless> I followed GrizzLyCRO's instructions
[01:27] <Kentrel> jrib, doesn't that just imply that only people of group conor can mount that drive?
[01:27] <Kentrel> jrib, group Kentrel I mean
[01:27] <craigbass1976> Wingless, hang on, I'm installing acrobat.
[01:27] <jrib> Kentrel: no, the mounting happens at boot time
[01:27] <signornessuno> Typos_King: here there is fsck http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xXLcu54F
[01:27] <Pici> xomp: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename   this will not remove user configurations though, i.e, those stored in a user's home.
[01:27] <craigbass1976> Wingless, This is like me going to wal-mart though, or using windows.  I feel dirty.
[01:27] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: do you have another computer that you can try to connect with?
[01:28] <Kentrel> jrib, well how come now I have to click on the drive for it to mount? It doesn't mount automatically
[01:28] <xomp> Pici, ah thanks
[01:28] <Wingless> craigbass1976: it's okay. I just wanted to try running it as root to see if that gave the program permission to do whatever was necessary to automatically download/install the Japanese fonts it needs for this one document
[01:28] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: like, over the LAN...
[01:28] <jrib> Kentrel: fstab only gets read when you boot
[01:28] <craigbass1976> Wingless, nope, I take it back.  This install is huge.  I'm on slow broadband.
[01:28] <jhambo> Hi folks, fresh install of 9.10 here.  My wireless card is "Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series" which seems to use the iwlagn module.  I can connect to WPA personal wireless at home but I'm unable to connect to the WPA enterprise network at school.  Is there anything I can do to get WPA-enterprise working???
[01:28] <Wingless> I *could* download them myself from Adobe, but they don't have a font package explicitly meant for Reader version 9, which is what I have -- even though they have font packages for older versions.
[01:29] <Kentrel> jrib, so whats going on with Ubuntu then? How come I can't access files in /media/WinXP until I click that drive in gnome
[01:29] <Wingless> So I thought maybe if I got the program to do it itself, I wouldn't have to uninstall version 9 and install an older version.
[01:29] <Kentrel> And even then I have to enter a password
[01:29] <jrib> Kentrel: you realize you are now asking a different question?
[01:29] <Kentrel> jrib, yeah...
[01:29] <jrib> Kentrel: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[01:29] <signornessuno> Typos_King:  help!
[01:30] <Kentrel> jrib, well I want my /media/WinXP drive to be mounted automatically when I log into my main Kentrel account. But people in other accounts, i.e. guests using my computer don't get to mount that drive
[01:30] <Kentrel> jrib, currently I have to click on it, and enter the password again, after logging in
[01:30] <jrib> Kentrel: ok, so use fstab to have your drive always mounted but give permission to read/write/execute files on that drive only to that user
[01:31] <Kentrel> ok
[01:31] <jrib> Kentrel: if you read the permissions link, this should make more sense.  Also, you can think of the "umask" as subtracting from 777.  So for example a umask=007 would give the files permission 770
[01:32] <coz_> guys out of curiosity and need at this point.... somehow I disabled previe pane when opening an image but it shows up when saving it  in nauitlus
[01:32] <coz_> or rather in the "open" dialog
[01:32] <coz_> nevermind  duh  I see the "Enable preview"  yoikes
[01:32] <Kentrel> jrib, okay - so I can set the permissions of a whole drive?
[01:33] <jrib> Kentrel: that's what you are doing with the fstab options.  You are setting permissions for every file on that partition
[01:33] <Kentrel> jrib, okay, so I should set the umask= to...??"
[01:34] <jrib> Kentrel: you could just set permissions on the root directory of the partition, but you can't do that with ntfs.  Read the link ubottu gave you to understand what octal permissions mean.  Then see if my example before does what you want or not
[01:34] <jan247> hi guys. trying to set-up virtualhosts in apache. If I wanted to have www.something.com and redirect something.com to it, and I already have a virtualhost for www.something.com, how do I create a redirect from something.com to www.something.com. would i need another virtualhost just to host this redirect?
[01:35] <Kentrel> jrib, so I'd set the permissions to my /media/WinXP folder itself?
[01:35] <jrib> Kentrel: no.
[01:35] <Typos_King> signornessuno:    you know, I got nothing on that paste :|
[01:36]  * Typos_King retries the paste
[01:36] <claybustr> okay - it appears I'm not the only person to try overriding DisallowTCP in their gdm.conf file and be flat out ignored
[01:36] <fleebailey33> Chris___: /join ##mac
[01:36] <jrib> Kentrel: read the permission link ubottu gave you and figure out what umask you want set
[01:36] <Typos_King> lol
[01:36] <Kentrel> jrib, okay
[01:36] <SeaPhor> jrib, after following this, i am concerned and wondering myself... why have things changed so dramatically from last LTS to this? like why is mounting an NFS share such an ordeal? why is setting up a VNC account such an issue? why is network shares changed so much? and many other "why do i have to CHANGE all the notes I kept on how to do stuff" for EVERY release?
[01:36] <Chris___> fleebailey33: why would I do that? I hate macs
[01:37] <Typos_King> signornessuno:    that's just the 'fsck' dump :|, not exactly the lsusb heheh, for the mp3 device
[01:37] <jrib> jan247: try #httpd
[01:37] <Typos_King> signornessuno:    but it looks like you firstly need to fix your system, before trying to access your mp3 player ehhe
[01:37] <jan247> jrib: sorry, tnx
[01:37] <signornessuno> Typos_King:  and about the errors on fsck, is there a way to repair?
[01:38] <claybustr> has tcp listen actually been removed from X on ubuntu? (I read that Suse removed it from the package source - talk about heavy handed)
[01:38] <jrib> SeaPhor: I don't know, everything seems to work the same for me (I use samba though, not nfs)
[01:38] <Wingless> Thank you for the help, by the way.
[01:38] <holden> hi
[01:39] <holden> hi neal
[01:39] <Kentrel> jrib, so from reading I'm thinking "nouser,uid=0,gid=0,umask=077" will give me what I want, i.e. only the owner can mount it, right?
[01:39] <Typos_King> signornessuno:    ... wait.... what's...... you meant to say, you ran an 'fsck' on the mp3 player? which is fat32 and fsck won't work with
[01:39] <SeaPhor> so... ubuntu is becoming more like windows? and is catering to MS?
[01:40] <Kajros> I am currently on a laptop and I am trying to install Ubunto to an external hard drive and seem to be having some trouble with it.  Either it refuses to install at all or stops at %% and shuts off the installer.
[01:40] <jrib> Kentrel: not really, uid=0 and gid=0 means all the files are going to be owned by root and have group root.  Your umask is right though, that will only give the owner permissions to read/write/execute.  Unfortunately, the owner is root, not Kentrel
[01:40] <GrizzLyCRO> can i somehow send windows from one monitor to another, using lucid, nvidia, separate x screen option
[01:41] <SeaPhor> Kentrel, that would mean that ONLY the user can, and not even members of the user's group could
[01:41] <SeaPhor> Kentrel, and ditto jrib
[01:42] <GrizzLyCRO> when xinerama is enabled, machine acts weird, i cant click on stuff, have to press ctrl+alt+del and then alt F4 to close ALL open windows and then right click on taskbar to get normal mouse and keyboard focus
[01:42] <Kentrel> jrib and seaphor. It appears that I have this in my /etc/group:  "adm:x:4:kentrel". I've found a post that advises using gid=4 for mounting ntfs drives
[01:43] <Typos_King> signornessuno:    fsck    won't work on 'fat32' or 'ntfs' filesystem for checking them..... thus I'd think is the errors, I assume is what you did, you ran a 'fsck' on the mp3 player.... whic is fat32... thus the errors, doens't mean is bad though heehe
[01:43] <Kentrel> jrif, Will this allow my kentrel group.. or user access to that drive?
[01:43] <jrib> Kentrel: ignore the post... continue with previous suggestion...
[01:43] <signornessuno> Typos_King: you're true
[01:43] <SeaPhor> Kentrel, not with mask 077
[01:43] <vlt> Hello. I created some iptables rules I want to be loaded on every boot. What is the ubuntu way to save these rules?
[01:44] <Kentrel> nouser,uid=0,gid=4,umask=007
[01:44] <Kentrel> ?
[01:44] <SeaPhor> Kentrel, the "xxx" = x=user x=user's main group x=everyone else
[01:45] <jrib> Kentrel: you seem to just be ignoring what I say :/
[01:45] <Typos_King> Kentrel:  http://maketecheasier.com/auto-mount-your-ntfs-partition-in-ubuntu/2009/04/14   <--- in case it helps
[01:45] <SeaPhor> so Kentrel 077 means 7=for user 0=for users group and 0=for all others
[01:46] <Kentrel> But 007 would mean 7 for user, 7 for group, and everybody else is kept out?
[01:46] <jrib> Kentrel: yes
[01:46] <SeaPhor> and Kentrel ... jrib is correct, plz listen to him
[01:48] <aldaek> 10.04 will not have the new menu, correct?
[01:48] <jrib> aldaek: #ubuntu+1 for lucid questions please
[01:48] <droid7> are there debs for the latest alsa drivers?
[01:51] <bushbaby> apparently not http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[01:51] <bushbaby> half way down
[01:51] <bushbaby> only 1.0.22 listed
[01:52] <droid7> i know 1.0.22 is default. I'm asking for a way to get the latest alsa (1.0.23) for some audio fixes for my laptop
[01:53] <droid7> i guess i'll try and compile it
[01:54] <gyre_> hi guys...i have a rather tricky question....i'm trying to set up an openLDAP on my ubuntu karmic testing server...but when I install slapd ldap-utils i'm not asked for an admin password as I used to be on previous ubuntu version...does anyone know why ??
[01:54] <gonzaloaf> hi, how can I make the FN key of my laptop hp to work?
[01:54] <gyre_> now I dont know what is it set to
[01:54] <gyre_> hm
[01:54] <SeaPhor> droid7, try this first- sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade sources.list
[01:54] <Typos_King> gonzaloaf:    is meant to already, isn't it? :)
[01:55] <gonzaloaf> Typos_King, nop
[01:55] <gonzaloaf> Typos_King, I'm trying to adjust the brightness but it isn't work
[01:55] <Typos_King> gonzaloaf:    sooooo, what's ubuntu meant to do ?  I don't think the 'fn' key combos are OS-dependent
[01:56] <gonzaloaf> Typos_King, Maybe I need to install some additional pkg
[01:56] <Typos_King> gonzaloaf:    don't think so
[01:58] <gonzaloaf> Typos_King, I just realized that it is working! But the combination to adjust the brightness dont, both the up and down bright
[01:58] <Typos_King> gonzaloaf:    the 'fn' key combos are OS-independent afaik, their functions are mapped in the chipset bios
[01:58] <gonzaloaf> Typos_King, But the combination to lock the screen works fine,
[01:58] <stankwagon> hello
[01:58] <Typos_King> gonzaloaf:    can't say... maybe something in the keyboard keys :)
[01:59] <stankwagon> first time here on an IRC chat
[01:59] <gonzaloaf> Typos_King, well in windows it works well
[01:59] <bushbaby> gonzaloaf: the brightness setting keys may rely on windows based functions whereas screenlock is handled in BIOS?
[02:00] <djbeenie_> hey guys, whats the best/easiest video editing program, like windows movie maker
[02:00] <trimatrix> yeah that's a really easy program to usde
[02:01] <Typos_King> gonzaloaf:    as bushbaby pointed out, some features, like the volume, may rely on the OS, I'd assume, I have a dell and the brightness fn combos work fine on either, I think I they even work before the OS loads too....sooo
[02:01] <Pici> djbeenie_: I hear good things about pitivi
[02:01] <djbeenie_> Pici, sweet thanks
[02:03] <xcv2> wireless nic on hp desktop can associate to visible, unsecured wlan (e.g. "linksys") but not to wep, wpa, wpa2, and not even 'hidden' unsecured networks (e.g. ssid not broadcast, but otherwise open). from dmesg: [   13.053120] wlan0: register 'rndis_wlan' at usb-0000:00:1d.7-6, Wireless RNDIS device, BCM4320a based, [mac address]
[02:03] <xcv2> help needed with karmic 32-bit, wireless usb nic (linksys wusb54gs) won't associate to hidden network. a few days of browsing LP and ubuntuforums and no closer to resolution. previous visit to this room, someone said ndiswrapper might be required, but it looks like this nic (and chipset) is intended to be supported out of the box.
[02:03] <trimatrix> what exactly does that mean?
[02:04] <Camaro_09> He wants wireless Internet but isn't able to get it
[02:04] <gogeta> xcv2: i did it threw the network manager and not the applet
[02:04] <xcv2> gogeta: not following you
[02:05] <diabolix> so, my apt-get update gets stuck at 99% (waiting for headers), anyone know what I can do to make it finish?
[02:06] <gogeta> xcv2: the network manager itsself
[02:06] <bushbaby> xcv2: are you using a usb wireless interface or internal BCM4320a? please clarify
[02:06] <Typos_King> diabolix:    I'd ctrl-c it, and then do a -> sudo apt-get  -f install;
[02:06] <gogeta> bushbaby: hes trying to connect to a hidden
[02:07] <xcv2> bushbaby: linksys wireless usb adapter
[02:07] <xcv2> chatting from same machine which is connected via cat5 currently
[02:07] <gogeta> xcv2: from your system menu find network manager you can add a hidden from there
[02:08] <diabolix> ok, -f install worked, but apt-get uprade still hangs.
[02:08] <rgoytacaz> hey guys, I'm Brazilian and I'm trying to setup a US Keyboard ( I got a DELL 1550 ) to accept utf-8 characters
[02:09] <rgoytacaz> like ç, or á etc..
[02:09] <rgoytacaz> which configuration setup should I choose?
[02:09] <bushbaby> xcv2: according to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB the Linksys adapter you mentioned is not supported out of the box? try looking for drivers on same site?
[02:09] <gogeta> rgoytacaz: should be able to change that from your prefs ketbord
[02:09] <WCityMike> Would someone be able to help with a rather confusing problem I'm having with an XUbuntu install?  I know that Broadcom wireless drivers don't normally work right off the boat, but even an Ethernet cord right in the back doesn't seem to be giving me 'Net access (in order to then install said drivers, etc.).  Install process looked fine.
[02:09] <gogeta> keybord
[02:10] <xcv2> gogeta & bushbaby: yep, tried adding manually via network manager right click, edit connections. also tried 'connect to hidden network' both failed.
[02:10] <tripelb> Ubuntu 9.10 crashed again but with firefox NOFLASH it took a long long time. Help?
[02:10] <rgoytacaz> gogeta: which one should I choose? its currently the correct layout, but it doesn't accept accentuation
[02:11] <tripelb> WCityMike, I have a computer that wont hook up to ethernet too. I dont have windows so I cant compare. But I take the plug out of this one and put it in that one and Nada.
[02:11] <gogeta> xcv2: did you try it from command line sometimes unsupported cards will only accept that
[02:11] <xomp> hi, I have a package "nginx" I installed but when I try to remove it with apt-get remove nginx it errors out with E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:12] <WCityMike> Any ideas?
[02:12] <xcv2> bushbaby: hadn't tried that. thanks, will check that site
[02:13] <xcv2> gogeta: still fairly green configuring interfaces via command line. i can do ifconfig up/down but struggle with the rest
[02:13] <bushbaby> WCityMike: What Broadcom Wireless card do you have?
[02:13] <sid_> hallooo
[02:14] <WCityMike> BCM4306 according to that pci command that the wifidocsdriver page told me to run.  Only problem is that I tried the "Add CDROM" thing it suggested but it didn't turn up anything on the install CD.  (Perhaps because it's a xubuntu install CD ... )
[02:14] <rgoytacaz> I got a US Dell Laptop, Anyone knows which keyboard setup should I choose, so it accepts utf-8 characters for Portuguese? Like á, ç, ê, etc?
[02:15] <rgoytacaz> keeping the US layout
[02:15] <brez> ubuntu
[02:16] <Mysti_Bleue> In Rythmbox is there any way to update the radio stations to get more stations ?  Anyone ?
[02:17] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  mm  I am not sure actually
[02:17] <d33d> I need some help with medibuntu.
[02:17] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  I have one client asking the same thing....
[02:17] <d33d> actually - its for 10.04 - so #ubuntu+1
[02:17] <Pici> d33d: Their repositories have been having connection problems lately, if thats the question.
[02:17] <randomusr> hello
[02:18] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  you can join  LastFM  and that updates at least the songs
[02:18] <Mysti_Bleue> ok coz..
[02:18] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  well if you type in an artist
[02:18] <bushbaby> WCityMike: try this thread on ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127345 you might need to copy the drivers over from another system with internet.
[02:18] <d33d> Pici, good to know...ok glad its not just me...any alternatives?
[02:18] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  in all honesty ... I am not up to par with this
[02:18] <Pici> d33d: bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810 possible work-around at  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/medibuntu-repository-down-what-to-do.html
[02:19] <WCityMike> bushbaby: thanks, I will check out that URL.
[02:19] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_ are there any other music players that might have a better selection of radio stations ?
[02:19] <Kegg> probably a dumb question, but does Ubuntu need Grub when running? My plan for a travel laptop is to keep Grub on a thumbdrive, so without the drive the lappy can't be booted. But I onviously don't want to leave the drive in all day...
[02:19] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  well there is streamtuner   that I used to use a few years back... I havent tried it recently though...
[02:20] <Hal_> i think i am getting close butr i still cant get file sharing working on my home net between my ubuntu machine and my MS machines
[02:20] <Hal_> any suggestions?
[02:20] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  somehow I want rhythmbox to do it all :)
[02:20] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_ Thanks for your help we will try that one :)
[02:20] <mikebl> i need help please.. does anyone know a channel related to networking?
[02:20] <Mysti_Bleue> haha so do we coz_ :)
[02:21] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  let me know if streamtuner is near what you want... I may just reinstall it myself :)
[02:21] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  also it cant hurt to google      linux  internet radio applications
[02:21] <bushbaby> Kegg Grub boots the Ubuntu system (imagine it as an intermediary between BIOS and OS) although you don't need it once OS has booted i recommend you keep it on the hard drive (not sure if it's possible to do otherwise?) as it's only small anyway
[02:21] <Izinucs> mikebl: what's your question.. there are many here who may be able to help
[02:21] <Mysti_Bleue> ok will do coz_ , he's checking into it now , Thanks ..we'll be back !
[02:21] <coz_> ok
[02:21] <Kegg> bushbaby: the goal is to have it removeable for security purposes. thanks!
[02:22] <mikebl> i have to design an IXP... im looking for guidance on how to do it, or a good book or something
[02:22] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_ do you know of a good irc client for Debian
[02:22] <Mysti_Bleue> ?
[02:22] <Kegg> irssi
[02:23] <Kegg> :D
[02:23] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  i like   xchat myself
[02:23] <Izinucs> mikebl: IXP is a new acrynom for me.. what is that?
[02:23] <mikebl> internet exchange point
[02:23] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,   many like irssi as well but I find it a bit more difficult when used to xchat :)
[02:23] <Mysti_Bleue> ok , thanks coz_ :) I'll let you know about the streamtuner :)
[02:23] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  thanks
[02:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> how do i launch wine?
[02:24] <powertool08> SpaceCowboy40404: I use winefile, it opens a file manager, then I browse to my file.
[02:24] <timClicks> SpaceCowboy40404: how did you install it?
[02:24] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_ we tried to get on this server by going thru a java applet ...haha sent us to an empty room
[02:24] <Izinucs> mikebl: ah.. ok.. well.. there's http://www.scribd.com/ where you can find loads of technical books that can be read online and some even downloaded for free.  The other option is #networking.
[02:24] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  as far as the irc clients... if you want to get into it deeply  then go irssi  if you want something that is fairly easy to deal with  go with xchat.  but it is really a personal choice
[02:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> through synaptic
[02:25] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  ah I see
[02:25] <Mysti_Bleue> or we THOUGHT we were on this server ...lol
[02:25] <bushbaby> Kegg: apparently so! http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/grub_intro this should give instructions on how to do so
[02:25] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  ok then you might want xchat   its not too difficult to set up  if you need help with it there is the #xchat channel or just let me know
[02:25] <Mysti_Bleue> so I  changed to my trusty windows 7 * I know thats a dirty word in here *  and opened my mIRC program and got here
[02:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> i right click on the program im wanting to start and then select "open with another application" and then select "wine Windos Program loader" and then nothing happens
[02:26] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  not reallly a dirty word...you use what you need to get the job done :)
[02:26] <mikebl> Izinucs, will try that, thank :)
[02:26] <watertonian> hello all
[02:26] <h00k> SpaceCowboy40404: it might not be supported in wine, check the wine appdb
[02:26] <Mysti_Bleue> I know thats right coz_ :)
[02:26] <watertonian> nube here, used to AmigaOS.
[02:27] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_ is streamtuner supposed to play on its own or do you have to play it thru rythmbox ?
[02:27] <watertonian> just downloaded a tarball, after being spoiled by .deb packages, not really sure what to  do with it.
[02:27] <watertonian> Other than unarc it.
[02:27] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  it should have it's own gui
[02:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> it says it is supported
[02:28] <h00k> watertonian: what is your question?
[02:28] <Mysti_Bleue> hmm ok , when he tries to play it , the screen disapears
[02:28] <Mysti_Bleue> haha
[02:28] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  mm let me install here to see hold on
[02:28] <Mysti_Bleue> I have no idea what i'm talking about here , he's yelling msgs to me
[02:28] <Mysti_Bleue> ok coz_
[02:28] <watertonian> I downloaded a webcam server, but its a .tar.gz, and I'm not entirely sure where to put the files after unarcing it.
[02:28] <bushbaby> watertonian: if you're trying to extract a .tar.bz2 file then use bunzip2 and tar xf from the command line
[02:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> h00k: it says it is supported
[02:29] <keyhive> Where can I get Lucid help?
[02:29] <coz_> watertonian,  after extracting it  look inside for a README file or an INSTALL file   it should direct you
[02:29] <watertonian> Oh, it unarcs fine with the gui program. just not exactly sure what I'm looking at. (even though 90% of amiga stuff is a linux port anyway lol)
[02:29] <Pici> keyhive: #ubuntu+1 please
[02:29] <h00k> SpaceCowboy40404: join #winehq for wine support
[02:29] <bushbaby> watertonian: or gunzip
[02:30] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  ok did you install this   with   sudo apt-get install streamtuner    ?
[02:30] <Mysti_Bleue> no it was in the software center
[02:30] <jhambo> Just installed Ubuntu 9.10.  I can't connect to WPA-Enterprise networks.  I was able to connect under Debian Lenny so I know that the card works and the drivers exist.  How can I go about fixing this problem??
[02:30] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  ok thats ok too
[02:30] <h00k> ubottu: tell jhambo about wireless
[02:30] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  well it is starting up here
[02:31] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  if streamtuner opens ... click the  Xiph tab  it should then update the radion stations
[02:32] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_  he's trying to install it with the app get whatever
[02:32] <Mysti_Bleue> lol
[02:32] <h00k> !lol
[02:32] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  oh ok
[02:32] <Mysti_Bleue> oh sorry folks
[02:32] <Mysti_Bleue> i'm a newb
[02:32] <Daemonic> we're all newbs
[02:32] <aperson> my F9 key dims my screen, I never set this, is there a way to remedy it?  I can't use any of the Fx keys in byobu either
[02:33] <coz_> Mysti_Bleue,  I cant open any radio station with that so far though    it may need updated by the author
[02:34] <Mysti_Bleue> coz_ ok thank you
[02:34] <coz_> ok I have to get to bed   later all
[02:34] <bushbaby> aperson: try System->Preferences->Keyboard and manually set your layout or choose another
[02:34] <aperson> bushbaby, I just did that, actually, nothing
[02:35] <_pg_> is there anything like peerguardian for linux
[02:35] <aperson> !peerguardian
[02:35] <Mysti_Bleue> I'm off too  night
[02:35] <aperson> _pg_, there is, but a hosts file would likely be a better option
[02:36] <aperson> _pg_, also, if you're just concerned with torrenting, some clients have blocklist support
[02:36] <_pg_> aperson: I would prefer a GUI and list support, not have to do it all manually, copy and paste etc. that way, the links autoupdate!
[02:37] <bushbaby> aperson: then i'd suggest searching for updates to your keyboard drivers or prehaps a BIOS flash?
[02:37] <_pg_> aperson: other than transmission, what clietns support blocklists?
[02:37] <urthmover> I have a question and I'm not quite sure where to begin....I am displaying native 1024x768 using a projector..(because that is the crispest resolution.  I project it on a wall screen that is 1376x768.  When I run XBMC I am able to set the resolution for 720P within XBMC and it fits fine.  It does not actually change the resolution of the graphics adaptor away from 1024x768....it just resizes the application to fit nicely on the screen
[02:37] <aperson> _pg_, deluge does
[02:38] <aperson> _pg_, there are programs that will update your hosts file for you, FWIW
[02:38] <droid7> _pg_, deluge, vuze, qbitorrent, pretty much all these days
[02:38] <_pg_> droid7: aperson what do you use personally / would recommend
[02:38] <aperson> bushbaby, I just find it odd, it *just* started doing this
[02:38] <droid7> _pg_, transmission, deluge, qbitorrent, vuze (in that order)
[02:39] <aperson> _pg_, I like deluge
[02:39] <_pg_> droid7: vuze is linux native?
[02:39] <droid7> _pg_, yes. It's java
[02:39] <aperson> _pg_, vuze is java
[02:39]  * aperson highfives droid7
[02:39] <droid7> :)
[02:39] <acovrig> how do I setup bluetooth via the cmd-line?
[02:39] <droid7> i only have 4 fingers man
[02:39] <droid7> :(
[02:39] <_pg_> droid7: aperson nice
[02:39] <jhambo> h00k: yah I tried the "Easy Steps to get WPA to Work on Kubuntu" on that page and it doesn't work.
[02:39] <bushbaby> aperson: have you installed any driver/related packages recently? prehaps that affected it? (I had the same issue with usb drivers once)
[02:39] <droid7> jk! haha
[02:40] <droid7> _pg_, yeah
[02:40] <aperson> bushbaby, I can go through my aptitude logs, but I'm pretty sure I haven't
[02:40] <n2diy> How can I eliminate outliers in a data series, in gnumeric?
[02:40] <aperson> I'm close to looking through xev and seeing if they aren't messed up
[02:40] <acovrig> how do I setup bluetooth via the cmd-line?
[02:40] <komies> I have a question; I googled and didn't find anything exactly the same, and can't replicate it, but it's happened twice this week already. I run eeebuntu and I have random touchpad failures. I know the system is still running because the task monitor on my upper taskbar doesn't stop moving, nor does the cursor stop blinking; I'm just unable to use my touchpad at all, or ctrl alt backspace, and have to manually power down.
[02:41] <aperson> komies, you might have to take that up with eeebuntu's support
[02:41] <komies> alright, will do :) thanks
[02:42] <droid7> komies, test with a mouse. Could be you accidentally disable your touchpad without knowing. Also, try shortcut keys.
[02:42] <randomusr> is there a webcam software that will detect motion and e-mail it to me?
[02:42] <xomp> why can't I remove a package that I used "aptitude install packagename" to get in the first place?
[02:42] <aperson> yes, xev isn't reporting f9 correctly
[02:42] <aperson> xomp, you need to be more specific
[02:42] <bushbaby> aperson: strange. can you think of anything that may have affected input? settings changed? just eliminating possibilities
[02:43] <komies> droid7: thanks, let me check the keyboard shortcuts for that. that might be it.
[02:43] <_pg_> how long till the derivatives get to 10.4?
[02:43] <xomp> aperson, heh, well I installed nginx via 'sudo aptitude get nginx' and now that I'm trying to remove it with 'apt-get remove nginx' or even 'aptitude remove nginx' it's returning all sorts of errors
[02:43] <droid7> komies, also, if you want to avoid hard shutdowns and know your system isn't frozen, you can do: alt+f2, xterm, sudo shutdown -h now
[02:43] <aperson> xomp, if you used get, you didn't install it
[02:44] <aperson> xomp, aptitude get just downloads the package
[02:44] <komies> great, I'll write that down
[02:44] <Wingless> Hello again. I have another question. I've installed Adobe Reader 9 by downloading the file AdbeRdr9.3.2-1_i386linux_enu.deb from Adobe and installing it using the GDebi Package Installer. Now I want to uninstall it. It seems to me that GDebi doesn't uninstall stuff, so how do I go about uninstalling this .deb package?
[02:44] <aperson> xomp, a pastebin of your output would be great
[02:44] <droid7> Wicked, gnome?
[02:44] <droid7> oops
[02:45] <droid7> Wingless, gnome?
[02:45] <Wingless> yes
[02:45] <aperson> Wingless, synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get can do it
[02:45] <Wingless> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 using GNOME
[02:45] <droid7> System -> Administrator -> Synatpic
[02:45] <droid7> type in adobe
[02:45] <Wingless> I've tried synaptic and aptitude
[02:45] <Wingless> searching for adobe and acrobat or acroreader or anything like that doesn't return any results that seem relevant.
[02:45] <droid7> try pdf
[02:45] <xomp> aperson, http://pastebin.com/ZSNCm7Px
[02:46] <Daemonic> Radeon 4670... anyone else here have one working, well?
[02:46] <Wingless> I don't see anything
[02:46] <Wingless> i mean, I see results
[02:46] <Wingless> There are lots of results, but none of them seem to be Adobe Reader
[02:46] <randomusr> exit
[02:47] <droid7> try doing sudo apt-get remove ado<tab tab>
[02:47] <droid7> see if autocomplete finds it
[02:47] <Wingless> that spewed out "adobereader-enu" which I believe is the package I installed
[02:47] <droid7> nice
[02:47] <Wingless> But it doesn't show up in Synaptic
[02:47] <Wingless> or Add/Remove
[02:47] <aperson> xomp, try stopping nginx manually first
[02:48] <watertonian> ok. according to the site, the guy forgot to put libjpgsomething-or-other in the dependancies...
[02:48] <droid7> add/remove doesn't list everything
[02:48] <Wingless> I see
[02:48] <xomp> aperson, I have /etc/init.d/nginx stop
[02:48] <droid7> but synaptic should. Maybe the search is off or the repo needs a refresh
[02:48] <Wingless> That seems weird
[02:48] <inglor_> hey, does anyone know the logic behind 1 being false and 0 true in bash?
[02:48] <Wingless> When I search for "adobereader-enu" in Synaptic Package Manager, making sure that I'm viewing "All" packages, I get nothing
[02:48] <Wingless> but in any case
[02:48] <droid7> inglor_, head over to #bash
[02:49] <inglor_> right
[02:49] <Wingless> So sudo apt-get remove adobereader-enu should work then?
[02:49] <droid7> yeah
[02:49] <Wingless> I'll give it a whirl
[02:49] <droid7> sudo apt-get purge <name> if you want the config files out too
[02:49] <droid7> *too
[02:49] <aperson> xomp, hmm... maybe try an aptitude purge nginx? (
[02:50] <aperson> droid7, I like to use aptitude and some wildcards aptitude purge foo? :)
[02:50] <bushbaby> while i'm here may as well ask. When running update-manager -d to upgrade to 10.04, update manager crashes but it doesn't crash fro any other upgrades or buttons. anyone go a solution?
[02:50] <jhambo> how do I figure out which driver wpa_supplicant is using?
[02:50] <Pici> bushbaby : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[02:50] <Wingless> Ok, I think that uninstalled it
[02:50] <droid7> aperson, don't forget purge bar either ;p
[02:51] <droid7> good :)
[02:51] <bushbaby> Pici: but it is an update manager issue when on a Ubuntu 9.10 machine so technically not a 10.04 issue?
[02:51] <Wingless> I've heard that Adobe Reader is a resource hog, but I know it will view the files I need.  I want to view Japanese documents that have Japanese fonts. Are there any other PDF viewers that would do the job as well as Reader?
[02:51] <Pici> bushbaby: nothing about 10.04 is supported here yet, best to ask in +1
[02:52] <bushbaby> Pici: ok thanks.
[02:52] <Wingless> xpdf seems to have Japanese packages
[02:52] <Wingless> I wonder if those will work...
[02:53] <droid7> Wingless, i think most do as long as the fonts are installed
[02:53] <Wingless> cool.
[02:53] <Wingless> Last question: is there a way to tell from within Synaptic Package Manager whether or not a listed package has been installed already...?
[02:53] <droid7> that reminds me, i need to start practicing some nihongo !
[02:53] <droid7> yeah 2 ways
[02:54] <droid7> 1 is search for it and if it's checked, it's installed (right click and see the avail options. 2, click the status tab, and select "installed" which will show all the packages installed
[02:54] <Wingless> okay
[02:54] <Wingless> cool
[02:54] <Wingless> thanks
[02:54] <droid7> yep np
[02:54] <zenlunatic> Wingless, apt-cache show package is easier
[02:55] <Wingless> What would that do, zenlunatic?
[02:55] <droid7> zenlunatic, synaptics listing is much cleaner than cmd
[02:55] <_pg_> how long till the derivatives get to 10.4?
[02:55] <Wingless> yeah, I think synaptic will work for me for now.  I just want to write a freaking resume; I'll learn more about apt-cache later...
[02:56] <zenlunatic> _pg_, ask them
[02:56] <droid7> don't be afraid to ask for help.
[02:56] <_pg_> are they all independent? like "whenver the get to it?"
[02:57] <zenlunatic> its like asking when is ford going to introduce features chevy has...ask ford not chevy
[02:58] <droid7> or buy toyota :)
[02:58] <kraetzja> comcast sucks, so i keep having to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf w/ googles free nameserver. how can i stop whats writing this file all the time?
[02:58] <droid7> kraetzja, set it to read only
[02:58] <droid7> kraetzja, sudo chmod a-w <filename>
[02:58] <kraetzja> that'll stop say.. startup scripts?
[02:59] <droid7> if you want to stop startup scripts, than you'd have to remove them from the startup list
[02:59] <kraetzja> i mean, prevent a startup script from overwriting?
[02:59] <droid7> if it's read-only, yes
[02:59] <kraetzja> worrrdd. ty
[02:59] <droid7> np
[03:01] <Wingless> What.  So I installed xpdf-japanese using Synaptic, but I can't figure out how to start it up.
[03:01] <Wingless> I figured running "xpdf" or "xpdf-japanese" would do the trick, but it says 'command not found'
[03:01] <Wingless> Syanptic claims it was installed. is there some way to figure out how to start it?
[03:01] <droid7> Wingless, that's a langauge support package. is xpdf installed?
[03:01] <Wingless> hold on
[03:01] <Wingless> It installed
[03:01] <Wingless> xpdf-japanese
[03:01] <Wingless> and xpdf-common
[03:02] <Wingless> and cmap-adobe-japan1
[03:02] <Wingless> that's it, It hink
[03:02] <droid7> install xpdf
[03:02] <Wingless> right
[03:02] <droid7> then it should show up in the menu somewhere
[03:02] <droid7> maybe under office
[03:03] <Wingless> ok
[03:03] <Wingless> i think that worked
[03:03] <Wingless> thanks again
[03:03] <droid7> yep :)
[03:03] <Wingless> lol next question
[03:03] <droid7> haha np
[03:04] <Wingless> I want to open a pdf file using xpdf, but within firefox
[03:04] <Wingless> there's
[03:04] <a3r0> which perl version will be included in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[03:04] <Wingless> it asks me if I want to open the PDF with "Document Viewer (default)"
[03:04] <Wingless> is that xpdf..?
[03:04] <a3r0> 5.10.1? or 5.12.0 ?
[03:04] <droid7> Wingless, i think that maybe the default pdf viewer installed with Ubuntu.
[03:04] <Wingless> okay
[03:04] <Wingless> yeah it doesn't look the same
[03:04] <droid7> Wingless, you can try that, or select xpdf from the list
[03:05] <aperson> bushbaby, well, I checked my bios and reseated my keyboard, no dice so far
[03:05] <genii> !info perl lucid
[03:05] <Wingless> it isn't on the list, that's the main problem
[03:05] <droid7> browser for it under /usr/bin
[03:05] <juanca> hi, I've updated my ubuntu 9.10 in one computer... how can I take those downloaded update files to a pc without internet connection, please?
[03:05] <Wingless> I can select "Other" from the drop-down menu, which brings up a new window that says "Choose Helper Application," but I don't know what I'm looking for
[03:05] <genii> a3r0: 10.1 according to the bot
[03:05] <Wingless> I know that in Windows you'd be looking for an executable
[03:05] <Wingless> what would you be looking for here in Ubuntu?
[03:05] <droid7> look for /usr/bin/xpdf
[03:05] <droid7> Wingless, /usr/bin is equivalent to c:/program files
[03:06] <Wingless> okay
[03:06] <droid7> all files there are executables (just without the .exe)
[03:06] <Wingless> Is there an equivalent to executable files?
[03:06] <Wingless> I see
[03:06] <Wingless> thanks
[03:06] <droid7> np
[03:06] <aperson> Wingless, more or less, files can be marked as executable
[03:06] <timClicks> Wingless: many UNIX files don't have file extensions
[03:06] <droid7> executable files on linux are usually all script files, which means you can open them up in a text editor
[03:07] <Wingless> I see "xpdf" and "xpdf.bin".  I want the former, not the latter, right?
[03:07] <droid7> yeah
[03:07] <Daemonic> http://pastebin.com/T0wfhuKf <- should I be getting shitty performance with this setup?
[03:07] <Wingless> ok
[03:07] <mango> help!
[03:07] <mango> I need to install wireless in my computer
[03:07] <mango> my ethernet port is broken
[03:08] <bushbaby> aperson: I can't think what might be the issue then.. Other than recompiling your kernel to fix (or a fresh install?) or more googling I'm not sure what to suggest.
[03:08] <Daemonic> mango: what wireless adapter?
[03:08] <droid7> mango, run sudo ifconfig in terminal, do you see wlan0?
[03:08] <Daemonic> not all wifi adapters show up as wlan0
[03:08] <mango> its Dell inspiron 1300
[03:08] <droid7> most often than not, it should be
[03:08] <mango> ok
[03:09] <Daemonic> mine vary greatly.. from wlan0 to ath0 to eth1
[03:09] <mango> the problem is simpler than it might seem
[03:09] <mango> my ethernet port is broken
[03:09] <Daemonic> mango: google ndiswrapper
[03:09] <droid7> eth1 wouldn't be wireless??
[03:09] <mango> hardware manager finds the proprietery broadcom driver
[03:09] <Daemonic> droid7: I have a belkin wifi card that shows up as eth
[03:09] <mango> but since I don't have ethernet I cannot install it
[03:09] <Daemonic> mango: google ndiswrapper
[03:09] <droid7> that's really odd
[03:10] <droid7> but obviously possible ;p
[03:10] <Daemonic> I'd like to know why my overclocked quad core runs like shit
[03:10] <acovrig> how do I setup bluetooth via the cmd-line?
[03:10] <aperson> bushbaby, I considered trying an older kernel
[03:10] <Daemonic> must be this shitty ati video card.
[03:10] <IdleOne> !language > Daemonic
[03:10] <droid7> Daemonic, "runs like shit" needs a desc :P
[03:10] <pdbogen> Hi, guys. I just upgraded to 10.04; I was running 9.10.
[03:10] <pdbogen> Er.
[03:10] <IdleOne> please keep the language clean people
[03:10] <aperson> does anyone have a reason as to why my keyboard's f9 key stopped working as f9?  xev gives me: http://pastebin.com/1X6MH79y
[03:11] <Daemonic> droid7: laggy.. video wise.. probably not the cpu but the video card. ATI drivers are crap.
[03:11] <bushbaby> aperson: maybe that's your best bet? tried booting into a different one (should you have more than one set up in GRUB)? If so what happens?
[03:11] <pdbogen> Anyway: Under both, I have the problem of the keyboard tending to lose keystrokes, as though the kernel is missing interrupts from the keyboard. Sometimes it loses the 'key release' interrupt, instead, meaning the key gets stuck. Any advice?
[03:11] <gregcor> mango: try to find the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ . Save the deb to a thumbdrive or something. You might need the dependencies too
[03:11] <droid7> Daemonic, ah ati. are you on on < 10.04?
[03:11] <Daemonic> yeah
[03:12] <aperson> pdbogen, #ubuntu+1
[03:12] <droid7> i think ati came out with some improvements with the latetest drivers
[03:12] <droid7> latest *
[03:12] <pdbogen> aperson: The problem applies to Ubuntu 9.10, as well.
[03:12] <aperson> pdbogen, usb keyboard?
[03:13] <pdbogen> aperson: Laptop; connected, presumably via PS/2, to an i8042.
[03:13] <tomato> for applications that require compiling (config, make, install, etc.), where is a good place to keep the source files? i realize that i need them when i want to do a "make uninstall"
[03:13] <juanca> hi, I've updated my ubuntu 9.10 in one computer... how can I take those downloaded update files to a pc without internet connection, please?
[03:13] <Peaches`> Maybe your keyboard key is crapping out? Just an idea...
[03:13] <pdbogen> tomato: /usr/src would be the usual.
[03:13] <Daemonic> hmm.. downgrade to onboard nvidia and have slow but working graphics or stay with this ati and enjoy random problems.
[03:13] <Daemonic> damnit.
[03:13] <tomato> thanks pdbogen!
[03:14] <droid7> the new nouveau seems promising
[03:14] <pdbogen> Peaches`: I don't believe that to be the case. In particular, because it seems more frequent when the system is under high load, and because it doesn't happen when running from a Debian install on a USB stick.
[03:14] <droid7> maybe disable vsync or use indirect rendering
[03:15] <Peaches`> pdbogen: Hmm..
[03:15] <gregcor> juanica: /var/cache/apt/archives has the package cache for apt. You could copy those over.
[03:15] <DJCharlie> Question folks. My desktop (XP) is on a local lan with 192.168.0.x. My server is on that lan as well as another lan with 192.168.254.x. There's another XP system on the 192.168.254.x lan as well. Any way I can configure the server to bridge a VNC connection between the two XP systems?
[03:15] <pdbogen> I suppose it could be abuggy BIOS, but that's particularly annoying, because I'd have to install Windows to run the BIOS update. :/
[03:15] <mango> do you guys know where the packages we install using synaptic of software manager are stored?
[03:16] <gregcor> mango: see what I just posted to juanca above
[03:16] <droid7> /usr/bin
[03:16] <pdbogen> DJCharlie: iptables bidirectional NAT
[03:16] <pdbogen> mango: /var/cache/apt/archives gets the .DEB.
[03:16] <juanca_> gregcor: Ok, but how do I install them in the other computer?
[03:16] <IdleOne> mango: the packages install mostly to /usr/bin among other places and the .deb are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:17] <gregcor> You'd have to use dpkg to install them (or double click them in the file manager). I'm not sure if there's an easier way. Are you looking to install specific software, updates...?
[03:17] <DJCharlie> pdbogen: Can you point me to an example please?
[03:18] <macbird> ping
[03:18] <IdleOne> macbird: pong
[03:18] <juanca_> gregcor: both
[03:18] <bigtom21485> alright, so frostwire simply uninstalled itself without a trace for no reason at all
[03:18] <bigtom21485> any comments?
[03:19] <juanca_> gregcor: software and updates
[03:19] <pdbogen> juanca_: Copy to flash drive, mount flash drive, 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb'
[03:19] <droid7> did you remove any other packages taht may have that as a dependency?
[03:19] <droid7> or vise versa
[03:19] <gregcor> juanca: Is ubuntu already on the offline computer, or there's absolutely no install right now?
[03:19] <bigtom21485> droid7: i used the computer janitor, that may have done it.
[03:19] <tle> am I allowed to ask about libdvdread4 in here? I'm trying to set it up but the install-css.sh script is timing out
[03:19] <droid7> bigtom21485, yeah that's possible. I recommend avoiding the janitor and using a different tool such as "ubuntutweak"
[03:20] <pdbogen> DJCharlie: Not offhand; try google. Alternatively, you could probably just do normal routing and not worry about NAT, though you should probably lock it down with some iptables rules.
[03:20] <bigtom21485> droid7: do i ever have to fragment a harddrive that uses ext4 or ext5?
[03:20] <bigtom21485> droid7: *defragment
[03:20] <IdleOne> bigtom21485: no
[03:20] <droid7> bigtom21485, nope
[03:20] <aperson> bigtom21485, no
[03:21] <IdleOne> the noes have it
[03:21] <bigtom21485> great 8-)
[03:21] <droid7> yes it rocks :)
[03:21] <pdbogen> tle: http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_i386.deb
[03:21] <DJCharlie> pdbogen: The server (and second XP system) is behind a firewall, and my desktop is behind a separate one.
[03:21] <droid7> ?
[03:21] <pdbogen> DJCharlie: What is between them?
[03:22] <bigtom21485> ah, windows.  the on ething i miss is...well, NOTHING.
[03:22] <droid7> yeah, it's a much more comfortable place once you settle in. nothing goes on behind your back ;p
[03:22] <crankharder> what kind of APC cable is the USB -> ethernet-ish thing?  is it "smart" or "usb" ?
[03:23] <pdbogen> DJCharlie: You said the systems are Desktop <-- 192.168.0/24 --> Server <-- <IP_ADDRESS>/24 --> Other Box, right?
[03:23] <microlith> crankharder: it's standard USB
[03:23] <pdbogen> DJCharlie: So where's the firewall?
[03:23] <tle> pdbogen, well I installed it but I'm still having issues. Totem starts to read the disc and then just closes without errors. Any ideas?
[03:23] <pdbogen> tle: I don't use totem, sorry.
[03:24] <DJCharlie> pdbogen: Pretty much. The firewalls are at <IP_ADDRESS> --> Modem and <IP_ADDRESS> --> Modem
[03:24] <juanca_> pdbogen: thank you
[03:24] <droid7> tle, install smplayer and all your problems will go away :)
[03:24] <tle> pdbogen, mplayer has the same issue
[03:24] <pdbogen> DJCharlie: So, who cares? Make the 'server' route traffic between the two VLANs.
[03:24] <lazyPower> Having interesting issues with Rhythmbox crashing on 10.04 x64, I am unable to locate the settings directory, nor am I able to trace why its crashing on start. Anybody else having issues or able to point me where i can clear a directory and force a release default config?
[03:24] <bigtom21485> droid7: what is smplayer?
[03:24] <pdbogen> tle: I would expect mplayer to produce more meaningful error messages.
[03:24] <droid7> bigtom21485, a clean mplayer front end
[03:24] <lazyPower> bigtom21485, a media player similar to Totem / VLC.
[03:25] <tle> pdbogen, well not the same, a similar one. it says no stream found to handle url dvd://1
[03:25] <droid7> tle, run totem via command line to see errors
[03:25] <zoopz0o> smplayer worth a go ? :p
[03:25] <digitalslave> anyone have nvidia issues in 3d games where random spike appear usually one off of the main character and sometimes many all over the place? running 7600 with nvidia driver
[03:25] <IdleOne> lazyPower: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid support
[03:25] <lazyPower> ty
[03:25] <IdleOne> np
[03:25] <gregcor> tle: I've had to actually restart the system before DVDs will play, and I forget this every time I reinstall. Have you tried that?
[03:26] <tle> droid7, good call. it produced '/build/buildd/libdvdnav-4.1.3/src/vm/vm.c:1485: process_command: Assertion `0` failed'
[03:26] <tle> gregcor, nope I suppose I could try that
[03:26] <juanca_> pdbogen or anybody: If I have a lot of .deb files (software and updates), is there a way I can just tell ubuntu where they are as updating source?
[03:26] <bigtom21485> digitalslave: i didnt realize i could run games on linux
[03:26] <bigtom21485> digitalslave: what games are there for linux?
[03:26] <IdleOne> !games > bigtom21485
[03:27] <droid7> tle, did you install from debian multimedia or medibuntu repository?
[03:27] <pdbogen> juanca_: It's tricky and I don't know offhand. Try 'dpkg -i *.deb', though.
[03:27] <digitalslave> running 185 (recommended)
[03:27] <aperson> ok, it's not just this keyboard
[03:27] <pdbogen> bigtom21485: nethack
[03:27] <juanca_> pdbogen: the order doesn't matter?
[03:27] <tle> droid7, I installed using apt-get install libdvdread4 and then because the script wouldn't work I installed using that DEB you provided me a link to
[03:27] <droid7> juanca, run what pdbogen said, but make sure only those you want to install are the only deb files (*.deb means all files with .deb extension)
[03:28] <pdbogen> juanca_: I'm fairly certan dpkg will handle it all itself, provided everything is there.
[03:28] <digitalslave> bigtom21485, heroes of newerth
[03:28] <droid7> tle, maybe someone else gave you a link. I didn't post any :p
[03:28] <FOXBAGUNCEIRO> alguem
[03:28] <FOXBAGUNCEIRO> me ajuda istalar o ubuntu
[03:28] <droid7> tle, do you have ubuntu restricted extras installed?
[03:28] <IdleOne> !br | FOXBAGUNCEIRO
[03:28] <pdbogen> tle, droid7: I provided the link, from debian-multimedia. If there's a better ource, feel free.
[03:28] <tle> droid7, sorry pdbogen did
[03:28] <tle> droid7, yes I do
[03:29] <droid7> it's np, just clearing things
[03:29] <IdleOne> FOXBAGUNCEIRO: /join #ubuntu-br
[03:29] <droid7> tle, i guess whoever said reboot was right. seems like people who had this issue fixed it with a reboot
[03:29] <tle> droid7, alrighty I'll give it a shot. Thanks a lot everyone
[03:30] <droid7> np
[03:30] <acovrig> how do I setup bluetooth via the cmd-line?
[03:30] <aperson> acovrig, define setup
[03:30] <droid7> acovrig, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:30] <cdose> i'm trying to get postfix installed and working.  won't accept external connections.  netstat shows *:25, nmap local shows 25 open, nmap from remote machine shows 25:filtered.  there is no firewall running, and the machine is NOT behind an ISP that is blocking port 25.  what's going on here?
[03:31] <pdbogen> cdose: Does the other ISP block outgoing 25? Some/many do.
[03:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> can someone tell me how to launch mumble server ?
[03:31] <a> hello!
[03:31] <pdbogen> cdose: Run a tcpdump on the server to see if thhe packets get there.
[03:31] <a> what?
[03:31] <acovrig> aperson, pair, for starts; then connect comp1 to the net via comp2's bluetooth (get comp1 setup)
[03:31] <digitalslave> cdose, did you configure postfix to accept external or only internal mail?
[03:32] <a> ı don no
[03:32] <IdleOne> !hi | a
[03:32] <a> my ı turkish?
[03:32] <cdose> digitalslave, well as far as I can tell it's accepting from external, but this IS my first time setting postfix up.
[03:32] <IdleOne> !turkey | a
[03:32] <cdose> digitalslave, which configuration option controls this?
[03:33] <digitalslave> cdose, the setup at the bigining in the command window is where you set that up
[03:33] <digitalslave> cdose, red/blue screens
[03:33] <cdose> digitalslave, dpkg-reconfigure?  yeah it's set up as "internet site"
[03:33] <a> how learning programming
[03:33] <meoblast001> hi
[03:34] <aperson> avelldiroll, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896244 seems to be a start
[03:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> can someone tell me how to launch mumble server ?
[03:34] <meoblast001> what command line program can write an ISO to a CD?
[03:34] <droid7> meoblast001, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328898
[03:34] <digitalslave> cdose, are you trying to send mail out to the internet as well?
[03:35] <meoblast001> droid7: it's not a DVD though
[03:35] <cdose> digitalslave, i'm just trying to set up simple virtual domain mail forwarding.  but i've already tested a local telnet and sent mail out succesfully
[03:35] <volcom> alguien hablas espanol
[03:35] <IdleOne> !es | volcom
[03:36] <IdleOne> SpaceCowboy40404: mumble-server in terminal should start it up
[03:36] <cdose> digitalslave, tcpdump is not shoing any traffic coming in on port 25.  it's got to be my local ISP filtering outgoing port 25 traffic
[03:36] <volcom> Thank
[03:36] <cdose> digitalslave, which is really annoying.
[03:36] <Untitled_only> hey pepz, I need sum help with my sound. It keeps going off after 15 mins of playing movies
[03:36] <digitalslave> cdose, many other mail providers will block you or not deliver to you since you are not registered as a mail server - hotmail is notorious for this
[03:36] <cdose> digitalslave, what exactly do you mean by "registered"?
[03:36] <pdbogen> cdose: Try enabling the submission port, 587.
[03:37] <droid7> meoblast001, maybe mkisofs
[03:37] <digitalslave> cdose, im assuming you have a domain name registered pointing back to your machine?
[03:37] <rsr> hi
[03:37] <austin_> check out my site its a Web IRC for talk about torrents and just what ever you want <warezirc.us.to>
[03:37] <cdose> digitalslave, yes I do, and reverse DNS matches as well
[03:37] <rsr> can I get 3 finger swipe working on ubuntu 9.10? I have a macbook pro
[03:37] <xangua> austin_: don't spam us :S
[03:37] <Untitled_only> can anyone help me with my sound problem please?
[03:37] <IdleOne> austin_: please don't advertise here
[03:37] <cdose> pdbogen, what is the submission port?
[03:38] <austin_> ok sorry
[03:38] <pdbogen> cdose: It's an alternate port for sending -mail.
[03:38] <digitalslave> cdose, it can take a day or two to get all the way around the interwebs if you just set up your mx
[03:38] <IdleOne> austin_: it is also against freenode policy
[03:38] <droid7> meoblast001, oops i mean cdrecord
[03:38] <meoblast001> droid7: ok, thanks
[03:38] <droid7> np
[03:39] <cdose> digitalslave, right, i'm ok with waiting for that, but what currently isn't working is just the telnet in from outside... if that's just my local ISP, then i may not actually have any problems
[03:39] <Untitled_only> subone can you help me?
[03:39] <pdbogen> cdose: What's the IP? I can test for you.
[03:39] <_pg_> rsr: if you do, let me know. I would like to also
[03:39] <digitalslave> cdose, very well could be
[03:40] <cdose> pdbogen, <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:40] <Untitled_only> sound problem... Help please
[03:41] <pdbogen> cdose: Works fine from my server.
[03:41] <digitalslave> cdose, you usually have to go into master.cf and check the first smtp line - usually allows unless you put 127: infront
[03:41] <cdose> pdbogen, thanks a lot for testing that.  i guess it's just my local ISP blocking me...
[03:42] <Untitled_only> H.E.L.P.... Please
[03:43] <cdose> digitalslave, pdbogen, thanks a lot guys
[03:43] <brianherman> Untitled_only whats wrong
[03:43] <Untitled_only> my sound keeps going out when I'm watching movies
[03:43] <droid7> Untitled_only, post your issue and those who can help will chip in
[03:43] <mikeliss> Is there a trick to using the system crontab? I need to run a cronjob as www-data
[03:44] <digitalslave> cdose, no problem... pretty much works out of the box but there are many cool things you can do - in the end i just hosted my mail with google because of the occasional mail block :( if only anyone could put up a mail server
[03:44] <HealingDruid> The only place I seem to get sound on my 64 bit karmic system is through my browser, and when I emulate windows using VMWare....how can i fix my problem?
[03:44] <jrib> mikeliss: well, either use crontab -e as the www-data user or use /etc/crontab, no?
[03:44] <Untitled_only> When I watching movies my sound cuts off, sometimes on youtube also
[03:44] <xangua> Untitled_only: are you using hardy¿
[03:45] <Wingless> I've just installed Adobe Reader by downloading the appropriate .deb package from Adobe's website and installing it using GDebi Package Installer.  I now want to install the Japanese language pack (I downloaded it from here: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrasianfontpack.html ), but it isn't a .deb package.  It's an archive containing a number of files and folders, one of which says "INSTALL" and appears to be an installer ap
[03:45] <Wingless> plication. If I execute INSTALL, how will I be able to uninstall what it installs if no package manager is used during the installation?
[03:45] <a> merhaba!
[03:45] <FloodBot2> Wingless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <Untitled_only> no, what hardy?
[03:45] <mikeliss> jrib: is editing /etc/crontab the same as sudo crontab -e?
[03:45] <cdose> digitalslave, yeah no kidding.  i use google apps to for most things.  I just wanted an easy alternative for clients that just want a single email address at their domain, rather than having to set up an entire google apps account for that
[03:45] <jrib> mikeliss: no
[03:45] <HealingDruid> The only place I seem to get sound on my 64 bit karmic system is through my browser, and when I emulate windows using VMWare....how can i fix my problem?
[03:45] <bryanr> hi
[03:45] <Wingless> let's try that again
[03:45] <Wingless> I've just installed Adobe Reader by downloading the appropriate .deb package from Adobe's website and installing it using GDebi Package Installer.  I now want to install the Japanese language pack (I downloaded it from here: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrasianfontpack.html ), but it isn't a .deb package.
[03:45] <FloodBot2> Wingless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <Wingless> wtf i'm not putting any enters in there
[03:45] <a> mehaba!
[03:46] <mikeliss> jrib: So /etc/crontab is _in fact_ the trick to using the system crontab?
[03:46] <jrib> mikeliss: that is the system crontab, yes...
[03:46] <HealingDruid> i have checked the forums for my particular sound problem to no avail.
[03:46] <h00k> Wingless: 1) please watch your language 2) it was triggered because of the short time between messages
[03:46] <st__> Wingless, try INSTALL --help
[03:46] <Wingless> sorry h00k
[03:47] <mikeliss> jrib: Brilliant!
[03:47] <droid7> Wingless, what's the ext. for the file?
[03:47] <Wingless> it has no extension
[03:47] <HealingDruid> can anyone see this message?
[03:47] <droid7> in that cast
[03:47] <jrib> HealingDruid: no
[03:47] <xangua> Wingless: you can download adobe reader from the repositories
[03:47] <HealingDruid> Just checking....
[03:47] <bryanr> I am not here because I need technical support. I am here because I want to learn to either develop some ubuntu programs or learn more about stuff I can do on ubuntu
[03:47] <xangua> Wingless: check if installing from there you get language packs
[03:47] <Wingless> but can you download the language pack from the repositories?
[03:47] <droid7> Wingless, download the file. then via terminal navigate to the directory it's in. run "chmod +x <filename>", then "./<Filename>"
[03:48] <bryanr> uh
[03:48] <bryanr> I know some C++ too
[03:48] <xangua> bryanr: this is only support channel; you may wanna check the offtopic channel
[03:48] <droid7> Wingless, chmod +x <filename> set's the script to be an executable. and ./ runs it
[03:48] <Wingless> wait, I was trying to do what st__ suggested, but when I go to the directory that INSTALL is located in, and i type "INSTALL --help", I get bash: INSTALL: command not found
[03:48] <crankharder> why is  mail -s "foo" root  just hanging and hanging -- where can I see a log for what's goign on?
[03:49] <pdbogen> crankharder: 'mail' waits for input on stanard i.
[03:49] <morphonaut> How do I get Adobe Flash Player for the lastest version of Google Chrome?
[03:49] <gregcor> Wingless: install may just be a text file with installation instructions. Try "less INSTALL"
[03:49] <droid7> Wingless, INSTALL is usually a file included with src packages on how to compile/install it
[03:49] <pdbogen> crankharder: Try "echo foo | mail -s 'foo' root"
[03:49] <tsimpson> Wingless: INSTALL is a text file, read it
[03:49] <aperson> my f9 key isn't recognized as a key anymore, but any combo with f9 works as expected, can anyone help?
[03:49] <digitalslave> crankharder, what mail daemon? and mail.log and messages usually works well
[03:49] <xangua> morphonaut: install it from repositories
[03:49] <droid7> morphonaut, which 64/32bit?
[03:49] <morphonaut> 32bit.
[03:49] <tsimpson> bryanr: you may want to try #ubuntu-app-devel
[03:50] <crankharder> pdbogen thanx, that produced a postfix error, i'll go from there
[03:50] <bryanr> ty
[03:50] <droid7> morphonaut, install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:50] <pdbogen> crankharder: No problem.
[03:50] <Wingless> I opened INSTALL; it's a bunch of code; there are no instructions
[03:50] <Wingless> It just says it's the Install Script for Acrobat Language kit
[03:50] <droid7> Wingless, it's a script file. there's no INSTALL file because it is an executable itself
[03:50] <jrib> Wingless: what are you attempting to install?
[03:50] <Wingless> I see
[03:50] <Wingless> I'm trying to install Adobe's Japanese language pack.
[03:51] <droid7> Wingless, follow the instructions I said a couple of minutes ago on how to install it
[03:51] <Wingless> But I'm sure I could install it if i wanted to
[03:51] <Wingless> the question is not how to install it
[03:51] <Wingless> but how to uninstall it once I've installed it
[03:51] <Wingless> I might want to
[03:51] <Wingless> but I'm worried that it won't communicate with the package manager
[03:51] <FloodBot2> Wingless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <jrib> Wingless: you know evince is a great native linux pdf viewer?
[03:51] <droid7> it should create an "uninstall" file in the install directory
[03:51] <morphonaut> I installed flashplayer-nonfree. Now what?
[03:51] <Wingless> I haven't heard of evince.  Does it support Japanese fonts?
[03:51] <droid7> morphonaut, restart chrome
[03:51] <jrib> Wingless: probably
[03:52] <morphonaut> Thanks, droid7! :D
[03:52] <droid7> Wingless, installable executables don't communicate with package manager
[03:52] <Wingless> I have xpdf, but I'm suspicious that the Japanese fonts there are somewhat strange-looking, so I wanted to temporarily install Adobe Reader and its fonts, since I know those look normla.
[03:52] <droid7> morphonaut, np
[03:52] <aperson> aha! it was the widget layer in compiz doing that
[03:52] <Wingless> Okay.  Well I'm going to try running INSTALL, so hopefully it'll just create an UNINSTALL somewhere..........
[03:52] <jrib> Wingless: there are lots of hits for installing xpdf-japanese
[03:52] <droid7> Wingless, install scripts are the same as on windows. they install separately and they have their own unistall file
[03:52] <Wingless> I've already done that, jrib
[03:52] <morphonaut> Waaaaait a second. Myspace's music player is coming up as a black box now.
[03:52] <Wingless> like I said, I can view Japanese there, but I'm suspicious that the fonts aren't quite right
[03:53] <jrib> Wingless: I would try evince before resorting to adobe
[03:53] <Wingless> The thing is, I don't know what the font is supposed to look like, honestly
[03:53] <Wingless> But I know that Adobe would display it properly
[03:53] <Wingless> i don't know if evince would
[03:53] <Wingless> and I don't know if xpdf is
[03:53] <FloodBot2> Wingless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <Wingless> therefore, I want to see it in Adobe
[03:54] <Wingless> but I don't want to wind up with stuff I can't uninstall easily
[03:54] <a> hello!
[03:54]  * jrib rips out Wingless' enter key
[03:54] <Wingless> sorry
[03:54] <IdleOne> Wingless: Please give the enter key a break :)
[03:54] <tsimpson> Wingless: adobe provide no uninstall procedure
[03:54] <IdleOne> no worries
[03:54] <a> hello!
[03:54] <crankharder> is adding "root<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to /etc/aliases all I need to do in order for postfix to forward to an external address?  this is from my home server that doesn't have a real domain...
[03:54] <erichynds> anyone know if that ext4 bug w/ large files going corrupt is fixed?
[03:54] <nhandler> Hello a, can I help you with something?
[03:54] <droid7> Wingless, an install is just a bunch of files in a directory. If worse somes to worse you just remove the directory
[03:54] <morphonaut> I installed flashplayer-nonfree, as directed. Flash games work, but the Myspace music player does not. Any help on the matter?
[03:54] <droid7> *comes
[03:55] <a> yes
[03:55] <a> all right
[03:55] <droid7> morphonaut, either a chrome bug or adblock or something
[03:55] <a> irc problem
[03:55] <droid7> morphonaut, try a different browser
[03:55] <h00k> morphonaut: there probably isn't much you can do but to try a different browser or write to Adobe and tell them to fix their things
[03:55] <xangua> morphonaut: are you using 64 bits¿ are you using the daily or the beta build of chromium¿
[03:55] <h00k> a: ask your question all on one line, please
[03:56] <a> help!
[03:56] <maginot> crankharder, you have a lot of problem trying that...
[03:56] <h00k> !ask | a
[03:56] <a> irc
[03:56] <IdleOne> h00k: he needs directions to !turkey which I have provided
[03:56] <a> yes ı'am aturkish
[03:56] <maginot> crankharder, to start, how do you expected to receive emails on that box, second how do you expect to gmail handle your smtp forwards ?
[03:56] <a> ı'm sorry
[03:56] <nhandler> a: So type: /join #ubuntu-tr
[03:56] <crankharder> i dont need to receive, i just want sys notifications to go to the email i check all day long
[03:57] <mikeliss> jrib: I added a script that works fine to /etc/crontab, but it's  not working. Do you have any theories?
[03:57] <a><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:57] <crankharder> i dont know a good way to do that
[03:57] <jrib> mikeliss: restart cron
[03:57] <a> what?
[03:57] <mikeliss> jrib: Curses! Err: /etc/init.d/cron restart?
[03:57] <h00k> a: /join #ubuntu-tr
[03:57] <a>  /etc/init.d/cron restart?
[03:57] <jrib> mikeliss: sure
[03:57] <maginot> crankharder, well, I don't think you can, or at least you had to have more knowledge to understand what you want. Or B you make your question wrong.
[03:58] <nhandler> a: yazın / IRC istemcisi # ubuntu-tr ol
[03:58]  * nhandler thinks google butchered that translation
[03:58] <morphonaut> xangua: No, I'm using 32bit. And I'm using the beta build.
[03:58] <digitalslave> mikeliss, did you set your PATH in the script you have running from cron... check cron log as well
[03:58] <Hitiek> can anyone suggest for me what might cause my ubuntu server to simultaneously stop accepting incomming ssh connections and at the same time any attempt to "sudo -s" just hangs?
[03:58] <maginot> ubottu, tr | a
[03:58] <xangua> morphonaut: no idea then, i have no issues
[03:59] <mikeliss> digitalslave: any ideas where to find such a log?
[03:59] <jrib> Hitiek: does sudo anything else work?
[03:59] <mikeliss> digitalslave: Also, I think it should be fine, the script is a python script.
[04:00] <Hitiek> jrib: from my past experience with this issue.  no, sudo anything else will also hang
[04:00] <jrib> Hitiek: "past experience with this issue"?  This has happened before?
[04:00] <Hitiek> jrib: this has happened before. it happens roughly once every few months.
[04:01] <jrib> Hitiek: did you figure out the cause last time?
[04:01] <Hitiek> jrib: no. I've never been able to figure out the issue.  I end up going to the server and shutting it down from a physically connected keyboard.
[04:02] <jrib> Hitiek: and after restart it worked again?
[04:02] <droid7> Hitiek, you could just restart the ssh server
[04:02] <droid7> *ssh service
[04:02] <Hitiek> jrib: yes, after a restart everything works fine again for another several months
[04:02] <a__> hi
[04:02] <Hitiek> droid7: I can't restart the ssh server.  I can't use sudo to get root access to do so.
[04:03] <jrib> Hitiek: what ubuntu version?
[04:03] <a__> how learning programming
[04:03] <droid7> Hitiek, you said you shut it down via an attatched keyboard?
[04:03] <a__> what?
[04:03] <sbso> which one programming?
[04:03] <rww> ubottu: ot | a__
[04:03] <mikeliss> jrib, digitalslave: I restarted cron, and saw it try to execute the script, but it didn't work, and there isn't anything new in the log? Am I missing something?
[04:03] <josh92651> can anyone help with mounting an XFS partion?
[04:04] <a__> be hacker
[04:04] <jrib> mikeliss: what is your script?  How are you calling it?
[04:04] <droid7> can you post your script to pastebin?
[04:04] <digitalslave> mikeliss, add error checking to your script to see how far it's getting > error.log
[04:04] <a__> ı dont no
[04:04] <Hitiek> jrib: hmm ... I feel silly.  where do I verify that?   guess I could check the apt sources
[04:04] <a__> ı don't no
[04:04] <jrib> Hitiek: that's one way.  Or run: lsb_release -c
[04:04] <maginot> ubottu, tr > a
[04:05] <droid7> Hitiek, type uname - a in terminal
[04:05] <mikeliss> It's a python script, I'm calling it with 58 19 * * * www-data  /usr/bin/python /home/mlissner/Documents/Cal/FinalProject/alert/send_emails.py -c 2 (to be exact)
[04:05] <Hitiek> jrib: hardy
[04:05] <mikeliss> jrib: ^^^
[04:05] <maginot> ubottu, tr > a__
[04:05] <maginot> ubottu, ot > a__
[04:06] <jrib> Hitiek: what does « hostname » return?  What is in /etc/hosts?
[04:06] <josh92651> Help with mounting an XFS partion please.  It's from a NAS that was in Raid 1
[04:06] <Hitiek> droid7: I think in the past I have ended up using Ctrl-Alt-Del at the physical keybaord, and eventually the shutdown hangs and I have to power off the machine
[04:06] <Hitiek> jrib: both are "wendy"
[04:07] <jrib> Hitiek: /etc/hosts just says "wendy"?
[04:07] <a__> how to hacker?
[04:07] <droid7> Hitiek, next time this happens, on the server do ctrl + alt + f1 and try doing a sudo su
[04:07] <jrib> a__: /part now i am hacker
[04:07] <droid7> i mean logging in as root
[04:07] <droid7> no sudo su
[04:07] <josh92651> this is my fstab line: UUID=1ac97f4b-4843-4bf5-694b-15f130a908b5 /root linux_raid_member remount,users 0 0
[04:07] <Hitiek> droid7: it is happening now
[04:08] <Hitiek> droid7: I am chatting with you from the same machine that is having the problem
[04:08] <droid7> Hitiek, so you are on the server?
[04:08] <Hitiek> droid7: and I don't know my root password.  I rely on sudo
[04:08] <isolat3dsh33p> !apport
[04:08] <droid7> Hitiek, it should be the same
[04:08] <Hitiek> droid7: yes, I am on the server, using a vnc connection at the moment
[04:09] <droid7> Hitiek, ok do "sudo su"
[04:09] <hanasaki> anyone have xrdp working ?  I can only get it under the vnc connection and have keyboard mapping issues
[04:09] <droid7> to get as root
[04:09] <jrib> Hitiek: if your /etc/hosts simply says "wendy", that's likely the issue
[04:09] <Hitiek> droid7: "sudo su" hangs
[04:09] <josh92651> XFS mounting knowledge anyone?
[04:10] <Hitiek> jrib: why would it only be a problem every several months?
[04:10] <jrib> mikeliss: try digitalslave's suggestion about redirrecting the output, but also redirect stderr
[04:10] <scunizi> Hitiek: try sudo -i  ... but why do you need to be logged in as root?
[04:10] <hanasaki> josh92651:  sorry no... curious.. why XFS?
[04:10] <josh92651> it was a NAS drive in RAID 1
[04:10] <droid7> Hitiek, ctrl + alt + f1 to get a new terminal up
[04:10] <jrib> Hitiek: we have to figure out the actual cause first to answer that.  I can't think of anything
[04:10] <Hitiek> scunizi: my server currently stopped accepting ssh connections, and sudo hangs.
[04:11] <tomato> is there such thing as a remote file manager?
[04:11] <digitalslave> Hitiek, has you restarted sshd?
[04:11] <jrib> tomato: sure, why not?
[04:11] <thiebaude> Ken8521, it just restarts
[04:11] <mikeliss> jrib: Oh, missed that comment. I'm in business.
[04:11] <droid7> digitalslave, sudo hangs
[04:11] <Hitiek> digitalslave: I can't restart sshd.  I can't get root access to do so because sudo hangs
[04:11] <mikeliss> jrib, digitalslave: Thanks for the help.
[04:11] <tomato> jrib, i was thinking ftp, but like somethign that lets me drag things around
[04:12] <jrib> tomato: nautilus does that (file -> connect to server)
[04:12] <droid7> Hitiek, do you have top or htop installed?
[04:12] <Ken8521> thiebaude, even w/ the cli command?
[04:12] <scunizi> jrib: Hitiek I seem to remember when ssh stops accepting connections from another machine then there is a file that holds the keys for the ssh session that needs "cleaning" before the server will accept another connection
[04:12] <thiebaude> yes
[04:12] <Ken8521> hmm
[04:12] <tomato> my goodness~ i must look that up
[04:12] <tomato> thanks jrib!
[04:12] <jrib> tomato: nautilus is the name of the default file manager in GNOME/ubuntu
[04:12] <thiebaude> lol
[04:12] <tomato> oh~ ha ha
[04:12] <droid7> if sudo is hanging then it's not ssh
[04:12] <tomato> i'm running a server so it doesn't have X running
[04:12] <thiebaude> :)
[04:13] <jrib> tomato: oh.  So you want something that could be called a "remote file manager" but without X?
[04:13] <droid7> tomato, ssh + ls/cp/rm/mv
[04:13] <Hitiek> droid7: I just tried logging in as myself on the physical terminal.  it hangs also
[04:13] <tomato> yeah, is there such thing without setting up X?
[04:13] <Hitiek> droid7: I do have top
[04:14] <tomato> ha ha, thanks droid7! i was hoping for another way though
[04:14] <droid7> Hitiek, look in top for anything taking up cpu
[04:14] <droid7> tomato, : p
[04:14] <jrib> tomato: well you can use something like sshfs or fuse with other things like ftp I guess...
[04:14] <droid7> tomato, ftp server + nautiluz /ftp client?
[04:14] <Hitiek> droid7: my load average is 0.12, 0.05, 0.06
[04:14] <tomato> yeah, i think ftp is my best bet
[04:14] <droid7> wow this is weird
[04:14] <josh92651> Can I copy an XFS partition to another file system partion?
[04:15] <Hitiek> droid7: noting using more than 2 percent cpu
[04:15] <tomato> cp and mv isn't that bad though
[04:15] <jrib> tomato: it's not clear what you want from a "remote file manager" that doesn't involve X though
[04:15] <tomato> jrib: agreed, i think i'm confused
[04:15] <droid7> Hitiek, no X?
[04:16] <HowardtheDuck> hey.  would ubuntu run fine on a gigabyte motherboard with integrated ati radeon 4200
[04:16] <maginot> HowardtheDuck, sure
[04:16] <jrib> Hitiek: is /etc/hosts really just "wendy"?
[04:16] <tomato> HowardtheDuck: i have a gigabyte radon with integrated ATI and gigabit lan, works awesome
[04:16] <HowardtheDuck> yeah?
[04:16] <HowardtheDuck> but...i thought ati didn't have drivers for ubuntu?
[04:16] <tomato> yeah, got it a few days ago actually
[04:16] <Hitiek> droid7: I have a minimal X installed that I VNC into. I don't have X running on the physical terminal
[04:16] <maginot> HowardtheDuck, yes, it does
[04:16] <Hitiek> jrib: yes.  just "wendy"
[04:16] <maginot> HowardtheDuck, good one though
[04:17] <jrib> Hitiek: well that's not normal.  Are you sure you are checking /etc/hosts and not /etc/hostname?
[04:17] <tomato> HowardtheDuck: i don't run anything graphic intensive though, so i didn't bother with the drivers
[04:17] <Hitiek> jrib: ohhhhhh
[04:17] <Hitiek> jrib: sorry
[04:17] <HowardtheDuck> oh....well i'd like to have compiz and all that
[04:17] <maginot> Hitiek, what problem are you having ?
[04:17] <hiexpo> question is anyone else having a problem with medibuntu updates unable to connect to
[04:17] <Hitiek> jrib: hosts has a few entries for some machines on my LAN.  nothing unusual
[04:18] <droid7> Hitiek, so you're on the server via vnc and not physically on there?
[04:18] <Ken8521> thiebaude, u still here?
[04:18] <HowardtheDuck> are the ati drivers just as easy to enable as the nvidia drivers?
[04:18] <maginot> HowardtheDuck, compiz will work fine for you
[04:18] <thiebaude> yes i am
[04:18] <Ken8521> thiebaude,  try this... sudo poweroff
[04:18] <thiebaude> ok
[04:18] <HowardtheDuck> i didn't download anything, i just enabled my nvidia drivers
[04:18] <jrib> Hitiek: what's on 127.*?
[04:18] <Hitiek> maginot: my server does not accept new ssh connections, sudo just hangs.  I can't log in on the the physical terminal.
[04:18] <canthus13> jrib: you are.
[04:18] <maginot> HowardtheDuck, they are close, I think you can download some ati drivers direct with apt, I don't know, I use Nvidia
[04:18] <jrib> canthus13: heh...
[04:18] <isidro1> how can i get sound playback from line in?????
[04:19] <Hitiek> droid7: at this point I am both on via vnc and at the physical terminal, but can't log int at the the physical terminal
[04:19] <maginot> Hitiek, okay, so you have access to the terminal NOW, right?
[04:19] <digitalslave> Hitiek, logs full?
[04:19] <HowardtheDuck> yeah, i'd like to stay with nvidia, but only ati comes integrated on these gigabte mobos
[04:19] <droid7> if you can't log in physicall it's not an ssh issue
[04:19] <droid7> *physically
[04:19] <maginot> Hitiek, sorry, I mean DON'T have access
[04:20] <tomato> jrib: i just realized i could use samba and finder on osx
[04:20] <maginot> Hitiek, and how do you know the problem is being with sudo hanging?
[04:20] <jrib> tomato: that involves X, but ok :)
[04:20] <canthus13> jrib: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<IP_ADDRESS>
[04:20] <Hitiek> the only access I currently have is through a vnc session.
[04:20] <tomato> jrib: very good point, i think i meant without installing an x server :)
[04:20] <jrib> canthus13: I know, I was asking a question in a different context for Hitiek
[04:20] <canthus13> jrib: Ah.
[04:20]  * canthus13 scrolls back.
[04:20] <maginot> Hitiek, so you're inside the machine on a VNC? well, this helps a lot
[04:20] <Hitiek> physical terminal does not let me in.  "Login timed out after 60 seconds"
[04:21] <sbso> VNC?
[04:21] <jrib> Hitiek: are you using ldap?
[04:21] <Hitiek> jrib: two 127.* entries.  one for <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and one for <IP_ADDRESS> wendy
[04:21] <maginot> Hitiek, so I imagine you have a bash open for your commun user, right?
[04:21] <Hitiek> jrib: no ldap
[04:21] <jrib> Hitiek: this is pretty weird
[04:22] <jrib> Hitiek: try: strace sudo echo hi
[04:22] <Hitiek> maginot: yes, and a screen session going, which is where I'm running my irc client
[04:22] <isidro1> how can i get sound playback from line in?????
[04:22] <tucemiux> isidro1, you mean you want to record using ubuntu?
[04:22] <maginot> Hitiek, what version of ubuntu kernel do you have ? (I suppose you don't have password on root and "sudo" is hanging, right?
[04:23] <isidro1> no, play music by line in jack
[04:24] <|josh|> is there some what, on Gnome, that I can substitute control-click for right-click?
[04:24] <droid7> if you're on wireless, maybe there are duplicate ip's or host names
[04:24] <Hitiek> jrib: strace "sudo echo hi" spit out about a screen full of stuff, but didn't ask for my password
[04:24] <droid7> Hitiek, pastebin the output
[04:25] <Hitiek> Linux wendy 2.6.24-27-server #1 SMP Thu Jan 28 00:36:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:25] <maginot> Hitiek, ?
[04:25] <tucemiux> isidro1, youre not being clear, jack is an application that is used to connect sources,  do you want to hear the sound that is coming in through the line in, as in get "sound playback from line in"??
[04:26] <isidro1> yes, i want to hear sound from "Line-in"
[04:26] <droid7> did you check to see if it's muted?
[04:26] <Hitiek> maginot: yes, no password for root and sudo hangs.  can't log in a new session as a regular user either.
[04:26] <maginot> Hitiek, well, wan't try something? But need to be on private since is hacking. :)
[04:27] <droid7> not much you can do without root
[04:27] <tucemiux> isidro1,  right click on the volume icon and click on " sound preferences", in the "input" tab make sure the microphone is not muted
[04:27] <maginot> droid7, yes. Maybe we can.
[04:27] <Hitiek> results of "strace sudo echo hi" : http://pastebin.com/2VnajmW8
[04:27] <isidro1> and....
[04:27] <maginot> droid7, his kernel may have a vunerability.
[04:28] <droid7> maginot, yes, but that's not something you aught to be doing on a server
[04:28] <jrib> Hitiek: yeah, as we just found out you can't really strace sudo... :/
[04:28] <Hitiek> jrib: was an interesting idea though
[04:29] <droid7> what you can do
[04:29] <droid7> is
[04:29] <isidro1> what next???
[04:29] <h00k> !root | Hitiek
[04:29] <maginot> droid7, well, maybe you are right, maybe is what he want or need at this moment, how can we know if he is the server owner
[04:29] <droid7> try and edit the groups list with / mounted via live cd , and add your user to the root group
[04:29] <scunizi> h00k: you haven't been following.. that ubottu post wasn't necessary
[04:29] <h00k> scunizi: I haven't...I admit.
[04:30] <droid7> maginot, he doesn't know root password
[04:30] <jrib> Hitiek: try "sudo -K" for kicks, though I can't think of something that would cause sudo issues, ssh issues, and login issues that disappears on reboots
[04:30] <Droopsta915> I installed firestarter and its not letting me get into xchat or send e-mail unless I stop the fire wall. Any suggestions?
[04:30] <maginot> He really only have two one, phisical access or... exploiting =X
[04:30] <hiexpo> having a problem connecting to medibuntu sources ?
[04:30] <droid7> hiexpo, i did yesterday
[04:30] <h00k> heath: it is down
[04:30] <digitalslave> Hitiek, df -h?
[04:30] <isidro1> i want to get "LINE-OUT" from "LINE-IN" how i do????
[04:30] <hiexpo> ok
[04:31] <shaheenery> Hello, I am writing a paper for a college course, I'm looking for someone who worked in an IT department of any kind who could spare a little time to answer some questions for me?
[04:31] <Hitiek> jrib: sudo -K made no difference
[04:31] <jrib> Hitiek: did it also hang?
[04:31] <scunizi> digitalslave: that might prove interesting if his drive is *really* full.. might cause some  issues
[04:31] <xangua> !ot > shaheenery
[04:31] <maginot> droid7, I know he doesn't, if is a default ubunut install he haven't, it using sudo, that is why he is stucky at this moment to only one solution
[04:32] <hiexpo> droid7, so is it still down?
[04:32] <Hitiek> digitalslave: df -h shows nothing mounted that is over 90% full.  the root partition has over 9 GB of free space
[04:32] <shaheenery> Ah....sorry.  Thanks for the heads up xangua.
[04:32] <droid7> hiexpo, probably. I disabled it for now
[04:32] <Hitiek> jrib: sudo -K did not hang, but then I tried sudo again and it still hangs
[04:32] <hiexpo> oh ok
[04:32] <HowardtheDuck> ok gonna go for this gigabyte 785GMT mobo, i hope the ATI drivers are good
[04:32] <droid7> maginot, server installs prompt for root password unlike desktoip installs
[04:33] <HowardtheDuck> as good as Nvidia at least
[04:33] <jrib> droid7: not by default
[04:33] <droid7> yes by default
[04:33] <hiexpo> droid7, i just wanted to make sure it wasn' just me
[04:33] <maginot> droid7, I'm trying to remember from my previous install and I don't remember that.
[04:33] <droid7> hiexpo, yeah no problem
[04:33] <scunizi> HowardtheDuck: Hope? you better research what card is in there and what driver currently support.. better safe than sorry
[04:33] <droid7> i installed 2 days ago
[04:33] <droid7> it prompts root pass then adds user
[04:33] <droid7> then prompts user pass
[04:33] <jrib> droid7: what version?
[04:34] <droid7> 9.10
[04:34] <maginot> droid7, never remember of having a password on my servers without putting one
[04:34] <droid7> 64bit server install
[04:34] <h00k> #ubuntu-server is an excellent resource for Ubuntu Server questions.
[04:34] <emma> the freenode population is low.
[04:34] <maginot> h00k, good
[04:34] <HowardtheDuck> scunizi:  ATI Radeon 4200
[04:34] <isidro1> i connect 2 "speakers" in "line in", why i have no sound?????
[04:34] <droid7> maginot, root always has pass. if it doesn't ask it uses the first user createds' pass
[04:34] <scunizi> HowardtheDuck: good.. but don't tell me.. I'm an nvidia person
[04:34] <jrib> droid7: that's definitely not true..
[04:35] <droid7> so how does root get a pass then?
[04:35] <jrib> droid7: it doesn't
[04:35] <droid7> ..
[04:35] <maginot> droid7, noooo
[04:35] <maginot> droid7, it does not
[04:36] <droid7> then he should be able to login as root without a pass
[04:36] <droid7> according to your logic