[09:33] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[09:33] <lexua1> feisty?
[09:34] <dwidmann> edgy
[09:34] <lexua1> aaah
[09:34] <dwidmann> could be a feisty problem, if herd2 is like that, perhaps a bug should be filed if one hasn't already been
[09:35] <dwidmann> lexua1: take a look at kcmshell --list and see what all it gives you
[09:35] <crazy_bus> It tells me to sudo apt-get autoremove.  But when I do it comes up with the same error as the install problem.  The packages it wants to autoremove are related to the one I was trying to install.
[09:36] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: let this serve as a reminder not to kill the process midway through an install :\
[09:37] <crazy_bus> But the thing hadn't started download loading after leaving it for 5 minutes
[09:37] <dwidmann> Odd.
[09:38] <crazy_bus> So is there anyway to fix my problem and remove libltdl3-dev?
[09:38] <lexua1> The following modules are available: obex - OBEX device configuration tool
[09:38] <dwidmann> lexua1: if that's all kcmshell --list gives you, well, you're in trouble.
[09:39] <lexua1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/76825
[09:41] <[nige] > hi all
[09:42] <dwidmann> hi [nige]
[09:42] <[nige] > anyone know a good keyboard status indicator for KDE?
[09:43] <surgy> good night
[09:43] <baronmordock> does anyone know what repositories firefox and gaim are in?
[09:43] <dwidmann> night surgy
[09:43] <dwidmann> baronmordock: probably main
[09:43] <dwidmann> !info firefox
[09:43] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB
[09:44] <dwidmann> !info gaim
[09:44] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[09:45] <dwidmann> [nige] : keyboard status indicator?
[09:45] <[nige] > dwidmann, so i know when my insert key is on...
[09:45] <[nige] > its very annoying with my laptop having numlock always off when I start up
[09:45] <dwidmann> [nige] , the numlock part is easy to fix
[09:46] <dwidmann> systemsettings -> keyboard
[09:46] <[nige] > hmmm
[09:46] <solemnwarning> How can I configure apt to use a HTTP proxy?
[09:46] <[nige] > i wonder why ididnt see it yet
[09:47] <premier_> hey, for some reason kcontrol wont let me change my monitor settings
[09:47] <premier_> can I pastebin the error?
[09:47] <dwidmann> premier_: you can
[09:47] <solemnwarning> Anyone?
[09:48] <dwidmann> solemnwarning: no idea
[09:48] <lexua1> perhaps $http_proxy ??
[09:48] <solemnwarning> Where do I set http_proxy?
[09:48] <lexua1> bash variable
[09:48] <solemnwarning> ok
[09:49] <solemnwarning> I'll add it to bashrc then
[09:49] <lexua1> yeah, perhaps: 'export http_proxy=FOO'
[09:49] <premier_> http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errormessage1dz7.png
[09:50] <premier_> btw, I know this falls squarely in the "unsupported" side of linux, but does anybody have any experience in running windows games using wine?
[09:51] <lexua1> I used to run starcraft, what games are you thinking of
[09:51] <Jucato> premier_: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"
[09:52] <dwidmann> premier_: try this: "sudo aptitude install kde-guidance"
[09:52] <dwidmann> oh, jucato was thinking the same thing, we must be right :D
[09:52] <premier_> Jucato: done
[09:52] <Jucato> premier_: try it again
[09:53] <premier_> lexua1: I got starcraft running, it made me so happy.  Im trying to get alpha centuri and pharaoh, but they give me trouble
[09:54] <premier_> fixed thanks
[09:54] <dwidmann> premier_: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:54] <lexua1> premier_: A google search should give you an idea if anyone else has had any success, there is also cedega.
[09:54] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know how to fix it? :)
[09:54] <premier_> do you recomend I use something besides he gui?  I have an ati that gives me a lot of trouble
[09:55] <premier_> cedega costs $$, right?  Like $5 a month or something?
[09:55] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: best thing I can think to do is to remove any and all packages that it complains about. You can reinstall them afterwards
[09:55] <Jucato> premier_: when it comes to fixing xorg, most often I have to resort to the command line, like editing xorg.conf or running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:55] <lexua1> premier_: I don't know much about it. I'd experiment with free wine for a while and see how you go.
[09:56] <crazy_bus> but if I sudo apt-get remove the package it complains about I get the same error?
[09:57] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: some fun commands to play with: "sudo apt-get -f install", "sudo dpkg --purge <packages>"
[09:58] <crazy_bus> I've tried those but they don't work either
[09:59] <dwidmann> Those sorts of errors drive me crazy, crazy, but played with in the right order they can usually fix things.
[09:59] <visik7> anyone had try the new compiz packages form gandalf that support kwd ?
[10:01] <crazy_bus> I tried the commands but I get this error; does it mean anything?  unable to open files list file for package `libgtop2-common': Input/output error
[10:02] <dwidmann> crazy_bus, I wonder what "sudo apt-get -f remove" would do, I've not tried that one before
[10:02] <frojnd> hello hays..
[10:02] <frojnd> guys* :)
[10:02] <frojnd> how can I chat with "irc" in not gui ?
[10:02] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: it certainly means something is wrong, in a very not good kind of way.
[10:02] <frojnd> like if I start monitor alt + f3..
[10:02] <dwidmann> !irssi
[10:02] <ubotu> irssi is irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out ) - also see http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/17/my-new-irc-client-irssi-ubuntu-606-610/
[10:03] <crazy_bus> apt-get remove -f comes up with errors too :(
[10:03] <dwidmann> crazy_bus, take a look at "man apt-get", type /--fix<enter>
[10:04] <orient2000> I have xp pro and linux does not see it. how can I convert to 32 bit format? I need access to data to transfer to linux.
[10:07] <dwidmann> orient2000: what exactly are you needing to do?
[10:08] <orient2000> I need to access my xp pro HD from kubuntu
[10:10] <dwidmann> !ntfs-fuse
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-fuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <dwidmann> grr
[10:10] <dwidmann> !ntfs
[10:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:12] <orient2000> thanks I am going to try it now.
[10:13] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: hmmm, I have yet another idea. sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --reinstall install <every single package that it complained about here"
[10:13] <crazy_bus> all in one line?
[10:13] <dwidmann> Yes.
[10:14] <graniti>  hi. how can I set a process to be automatically respawned when/if it dies?
[10:17] <crazy_bus> dwidmann: it didn't work
[10:17] <dunnoanything> hi..the file permission drwxr-sr-x the s stands for what? i know x is executable
[10:18] <dunnoanything> i couldn't find it on web..
[10:18] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: figures :\
[10:18] <dunnoanything> !permission
[10:18] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:19] <crazy_bus> It wan'ts to autoremove 3 packages, one of which is a package it complained of.  But doing that doesn't work either
[10:19] <dunnoanything> what does the 's' stands for???
[10:20] <dwidmann> sticky, I think
[10:21] <dunnoanything> sticky?
[10:21] <dwidmann> Yes, sticky.
[10:21] <dunnoanything> i've got one is capital 'S' too
[10:21] <dunnoanything> does it mean very sticky? haha
[10:21] <dwidmann> STICKY DIRECTORIES
[10:21] <dwidmann>        When  the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may
[10:21] <dwidmann>        be unlinked or renamed only by the directory owner as well as  by  root
[10:21] <dwidmann>        or the file owner.
[10:22] <d0dge-> Is there a way to get support for hyperlinks in Konsole?
[10:22] <genii> frojnd: Use the program ircii by   sudo-apt-get install ircii      then put in the freenode irc site to its conf file. Then start irc by  sudo irc
[10:22] <d0dge-> I'd only need it in SSH
[10:22] <Jucato> d0dge-: if you mean clicking on URL links in Konsole, no, not directly
[10:23] <d0dge-> Jucato: Okay
[10:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdf
[10:25] <frojndIRSSI> hehe now I am in NON GUI with irssi
[10:26] <frojndIRSSI> only problem is I dont know how to change identd
[10:26] <frojndIRSSI> and oh if gui dies how can I surf the net?
[10:26] <dwidmann> links
[10:26] <frojndIRSSI> ?
[10:27] <genii> with elinks, yes
[10:27] <frojndIRSSI> himme an sample
[10:27] <frojndIRSSI> example d0h
[10:27] <dwidmann> links, elinks, links2 ... lynx .... quite a few of those browsers
[10:27] <frojndIRSSI> ah u meant browsers...
[10:28] <genii> links is now symlinked to elinks
[10:28] <frojndIRSSI> elinks ?
[10:28] <kageko> hello i have trouble with my headset can someone help me?
[10:28] <user-land> Hello, every time my Kubuntu tries to access a file, i get "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream"
[10:29] <frojndIRSSI> I will install elinks
[10:33] <akrus> how to get UUID of /dev/sda1?
[10:34] <frojndIRSSI> damn now a days web designers arent on site of non gui...
[10:34] <frojndIRSSI> :)
[10:36] <genii> Yeah the days of lynx-compliant websites are long over my friend
[10:37] <frojndIRSSI> yes but what if gui dies
[10:38] <Johnsandman> the hardcore of your brain never dies
[10:38] <crazy_bus> http://channels.debian.net/paste/5201  Here is what happens in the terminal?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[10:48] <ceefour> hi all
[10:49] <ceefour> I wonder why my console is garbled when in text-mode, but okay in Konsole?
[10:57] <louzam> salut tous
[10:58] <louzam> wooow y a du clones ici lolll
[10:59] <louzam> personne parle ?
[11:10] <genii> !fr | louzam
[11:10] <ubotu> louzam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:10] <louzam> ok merciii
[11:14] <waylandbill> is everyone just so psyched and chomping at the bit to run out and buy vista tomorrow. ;-)
[11:14] <Xemanth> nope :)
[11:16] <genii> I wonder what the bloat factor from XP/2K will be. From 98 to XP the bloat factor was about 3X
[11:20] <paul__> salut
[11:21] <sergio> toc toc
[11:21] <paul__> cine sunte-ti mah?
[11:22] <paul__> name Bompa
[11:22] <paul__> oasodpaji dw
[11:22] <paul__> aw;knd w
[11:22] <Jucato> paul__: English only please
[11:23] <paul__> tes ofcourse
[11:23] <paul__> yes
[11:23] <crazy_bus> what does this error mean? touch: cannot touch `/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgtop2-common.list': Input/output error
[11:23] <paul__> what happend here?
[11:24] <distro-tester> 11:22:49 (13.26 MB/s) - "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list" salvato [139/139]
[11:24] <distro-tester> saved it there what i have to do next to install last wine version?
[11:26] <paul__> woh da i install yahoo messenger on this os?
[11:26] <paul__> kubuntu
[11:27] <paul__> plaease somebody tel me
[11:27] <ceefour> paul__: use Kopete
[11:28] <ceefour> paul__: It's on the "Internet" group on your KDE menu.
[11:29] <Rarj> How do I save data to an NTFS partition from kubuntu ?
[11:30] <Jucato> Rarj: you can't (normally) and shouldn't
[11:34] <Rarj> why doesnt kubuntu support reiserfs ?
[11:36] <waylandbill> because it will murder your drives..
[11:36] <waylandbill> (that last statement wasn't based on fact)  :-D
[11:37] <g6issenh> salut
[11:37] <Jucato> waylandbill: it supports reiserfs. it's just that the QtParted in the Desktop CD installer doesn't support it
[11:38] <Jucato> er.. sorry, that was for Rarj ^^^^
[11:38] <waylandbill> yup
[11:39] <Rarj> Jucato: :), right. Also the front-end has been changed has it ?
[11:39] <tanlaan> ok now im getting angry >.<
[11:39] <Jucato> Rarj: what do you mean?
[11:39] <Rarj> Jucato: it doesnt allow me to create more than 4 pri partition
[11:39] <Rarj> Jucato: its different from Ubuntu
[11:40] <Jucato> Rarj: you're not allowed to create more than 4 *primary* partitions. but you can create more partitions my creating 1 or more *extended* partitions
[11:40] <tanlaan> my computer says that i have something open using the adept database, but i have nothing open, ive tried logging out, restarting, and shutting down, and apparently that process hates me :D
[11:40] <Jucato> that applies to any distro
[11:40] <tanlaan> anyone wanna help out?
[11:40] <Jucato> Rarj: yes. Ubuntu uses GParted, and Kubuntu uses QtParted
[11:40] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | tanlaan
[11:40] <ubotu> tanlaan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:41] <tanlaan> thank you :D
[11:42] <crazy_bus> fsck has come up with; what should I do? has deleted/unused inode 195503.  Clear<y>       What should I do?
[11:43] <genii> "y" should be safe if it's unused
[11:43] <waylandbill> That not to say that you can't use GPartEd LiveCD or even just GPartEd with Kubuntu.
[11:43] <crazy_bus> What happens if its a system file?
[11:46] <crazy_bus> Should I clear if the file in question is a system file genii?
[11:47] <crazy_bus> i.e. Entry 'scrollkeeper_docs' in /var/lib/scrollkeeper (193621) has deleted/unused inode 195506.  Clear<y>?
[11:48] <genii> crazy_bus Should be OK, but it looks like you may be developing some issues with bad sectors on your hd
[11:48] <crazy_bus> What should I do about it?
[11:49] <genii> If you have drives with SMART capability turn that monitoring on in bios to get an early heads-up of impending failures
[11:50] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to write around bad sectors?
[11:50] <genii> Otherwise, there's not much you can do when a drive starts to fail. Other than scan it more often than normally
[11:51] <crazy_bus> I've had to reinstall around 3 times because system files on partition 1 have being disappering.  (Never partition 2 my home drive)
[11:51] <genii> crazy_bus: When a part of the hd is found as bad, the table which says what part of the drive is used is updated to say there is something there and not to write on that section.
[11:51] <crazy_bus> does fsck do that?
[11:52] <genii> yes
[11:52] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[11:52] <crazy_bus> So if I type fsck -f it should fix the harddriver?
[11:53] <genii> crazy_bus: As much as it can, yes. Keep in mind also that if the mbr part is going bad, not much to do since remapping low cylinders like 0 and so on is tough without a lowlevel formatting routine
[11:54] <[StingRay] > Hi all. Can somebody tell me if there is an application, which shows my cpu load on a graphic like in window$' task manager?
[11:54] <crazy_bus> Since I have fscked and reinstalled three times do you recommend getting a new hard disk?
[11:54] <Jucato> [StingRay] : KSysGuard
[11:55] <[StingRay] > thanks, Jucato
[11:55] <JohnFlux> Jucato: you've become the ksysguard missionary :-)
[11:55] <JohnFlux> [StingRay] : ctrl+esc  should bring it up
[11:55] <Jucato> JohnFlux: hehe :)
[11:56] <Jucato> [StingRay] : although Ctrl+Esc will only bring up the ProcessTable. the graphs are in the main KSysGuard app/window.
[11:56] <[StingRay] > cool JohnFlux, but I made some adjustments in KDE and now something else is coming up :)
[11:56] <JohnFlux> Jucato: oh yeah
[11:56] <Jucato> (That's going to change in KDE4... thanks to JohnFlux)
[11:56] <JohnFlux> Jucato: been too long in kde4 ;-)
[11:56] <Jucato> lol
[11:56] <Jucato> I thought so :)
[11:57] <JohnFlux> [StingRay] : what have you setup to come up instead?
[11:57] <Jucato> JohnFlux: as to why the two were separated in the first place, I'll never understand...
[11:57] <JohnFlux> Jucato: well because there was the sensor tree etc
[11:57] <crazy_bus> is fsck -c the command to check for bad sectors?
[11:57] <JohnFlux> Jucato: plus you want it to be as light as possible to load fast etc
[11:57] <[StingRay] > JohnFlux, the start menu...
[11:57] <JohnFlux> crazy_bus: yep
[11:57] <Jucato> JohnFlux: aah... which we can afford in Qt 4/KDE 4?
[11:58] <Jucato> [StingRay] : hm... normally that would be Alt+F1, unless you changed keyboard shortcuts.
[11:58] <crazy_bus> so running fsck -f wouldn't have detected them?
[11:58] <genii> crazy_bus: All the options and descriptions can be looked at by: man fsck
[11:58] <JohnFlux> Jucato: nah, I optomised the code a lot more
[11:58] <screemo> anyone know a good guide for testing out kde4 in sort of a sandbox (either using xnest or similar)
[11:58] <JohnFlux> Jucato: so it's not very expensive now
[11:58] <Jucato> Ctrl+Esc = ProcessTable (KSysGuard), Alt+F1 = K Menu, Alt+F2 = Run command, etc
[11:58] <[StingRay] > Alt+F1, shows nothing Jucato. This is not a problem at the moment :)
[11:58] <Jucato> JohnFlux: goodie goodie :)
[11:59] <screemo> a CURRENT guide would be nice
[11:59] <Jucato> screemo: are you ready to compile a lot?
[11:59] <JohnFlux> screemo: there still isn't much to see
[11:59] <screemo> Jucato: sure I just got a new cpu, so I'm ready :)
[11:59] <screemo> Jucato: I know that, but I'm trying to get into qt4 programming..
[12:00] <Jucato> hm... you could do Qt 4 programming on KDE 3... not necessary to have KDE 4 installed
[12:00] <JohnFlux> screemo: ah neat
[12:00] <Jucato> screemo: http://developernew.kde.org
[12:00] <screemo> sweet
[12:00] <JohnFlux> Jucato: is that the kdesvn-build  guide
[12:00] <Jucato> JohnFlux: I don't think so... me checks
[12:01] <Jucato> JohnFlux: there are usually 2 methods in the guide...
[12:01] <screemo> thats a nice page.
[12:01] <ceefour> Jucato: where can i find svn 1.4 and svk 2.0 for ubuntu?
[12:01] <Jucato> !info subversion | ceefour
[12:01] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[12:01] <screemo> anyone else having issues with the "Run command" applet eating the applet to the left of it ?
[12:01] <Jucato> oops, 1.3 only
[12:02] <screemo> its a resize problem
[12:02] <screemo> can be solved by dragging the run command a few pixels to the right
[12:02] <Jucato> JohnFlux: http://developernew.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts seems to be the guide for kdesvn-build
[12:02] <Jucato> oops I might be wrong
[12:04] <Jucato> quick question, does Ctrl+< (Ctrl+Shift+,) work as a keyboard shortcut?
[12:05] <humbolto> what is the standard fax server in kubuntu? is hylaFax still the name of the game or is it asterisk already?
[12:10] <graniti> hi. how can I obtain the CPU architecture's infos?
[12:10] <screemo> graniti: uname -a
[12:11] <screemo> graniti: dmesg|less will help also
[12:11] <graniti> screemo: ok. is i686 equivalent to x86_64 ?
[12:11] <Jucato> uname -a will only give you the kernel that's installed
[12:11] <Jucato> no
[12:12] <Jucato> x86_64 = 64-bit
[12:12] <graniti> and i686 ?
[12:12] <screemo> graniti: i686 is regular x86
[12:12] <screemo> graniti: 32bits
[12:12] <graniti> ok thnks screemo
[12:12] <graniti> thnks Jucato
[12:13] <sonicGB> in a nutshell, x86 = early model x86, up to about 80486 I think.... i686 = p2 and beyond?
[12:13] <sonicGB> not sure if pentium 1 == x86 or i686, probably x86
[12:13] <Jucato> x86 covers upt to 686 afaik
[12:13] <sonicGB> Jucato: yes.... I'm just not 100% where the cutoff point is... i686 begins from p2, I *think*
[12:13] <genii> p1-586
[12:14] <genii> p2=686
[12:14] <auser> hello
[12:14] <sonicGB> genii: sounds about right, thanks.
[12:14] <andreasw> moin
[12:14] <agrasifff32> hie
[12:14] <auser> my kubuntu did not show all the possibly resolutions for my screen
[12:14] <agrasifff32> i live windows
[12:14] <auser> why
[12:14] <auser> ?
[12:14] <agrasifff32> ok u can use windows
[12:14] <astrangerr> hi am mumuntu
[12:15] <auser> can you hel pme?
[12:15] <agrasifff32> yes
[12:15] <agrasifff32> u must to change kubuntu to Zubuntu
[12:15] <astrangerr> n my sister's name is humuntu
[12:15] <agrasifff32> my father Dubnuntu
[12:16] <astrangerr> n mama is komurtu
[12:16] <agrasifff32> And my gramds. cubruntu ,subruntu
[12:16] <auser> i'm in 640*480 mode
[12:16] <astrangerr> my uncle homurtu
[12:16] <auser> it's terrible
[12:16] <waylandbill> is there a point to all that?
[12:16] <auser> please help me
[12:16] <astrangerr> hey windows is best
[12:16] <astrangerr> doors are worst
[12:16] <agrasifff32> ok m.soft will help u with $2000
[12:17] <astrangerr> Poor KUBUNTU
[12:17] <agrasifff32> and i want to eat penguin sandwich
[12:17] <astrangerr> Poor people
[12:17] <marcel> hello
[12:17] <marcel> need help i don't know any software to open *.flv files on m linux help
[12:17] <astrangerr> poor hot girls
[12:17] <auser> there's no one can help me?
[12:17] <agrasifff32> pooor Linuxes
[12:17] <ceefour> auser: what video graphic card you have?
[12:17] <agrasifff32> i will help u on tonight
[12:17] <ceefour> auser: and what monitor?
[12:17] <auser> ati
[12:17] <auser> and a philips 105e
[12:18] <agrasifff32> my father is nividia
[12:18] <auser> but the strange thing is that
[12:18] <ceefour> auser: but you can use KDE right now, right?
[12:18] <agrasifff32> ;-)
[12:18] <astrangerr> my mom is onboard
[12:18] <auser> yes
[12:18] <ceefour> auser: run Konsole
[12:18] <agrasifff32> mom is motherboard
[12:18] <ceefour> auser: then type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <agrasifff32> run with konsole
[12:18] <jkyro> hello
[12:18] <astrangerr> u are homeless people
[12:18] <agrasifff32> i like terminal like my brothers
[12:18] <ceefour> auser: done so?
[12:19] <astrangerr> cos u don't have Windows
[12:19] <auser> just a moment
[12:19] <agrasifff32> u pooor linuxews people
[12:19] <jkyro> anybody know if it's possible to define a proxy for kubuntu installer?
[12:19] <Jucato> astrangerr, agrasifff32: stop it
[12:19] <agrasifff32> but we like windowzzz
[12:19] <astrangerr> linuxers i am human bomb
[12:19] <auser> ceefour: done
[12:19] <genii> Jucato astranger=agrasifff32 is my opinion
[12:19] <agrasifff32> i am a bomber of saddams
[12:19] <Jucato> genii: obviously
[12:19] <genii> agra= market
[12:19] <auser> and now?
[12:20] <Jucato> agrasifff32, astrangerr enough.
[12:20] <agrasifff32> sudo su install me
[12:20] <screemo> why isn't HIDD on by default for bluetooth devices...
[12:20] <astrangerr> Jucato i know you sister Her name is Ducato is'nt she ?
[12:20] <agrasifff32> and mother mukito
[12:20] <agrasifff32> and bananaas chukitta
[12:20] <Jucato> astrangerr, agrasifff32: if you have nothing better to do, go somwhere else, this is your final warning
[12:20] <astrangerr> Fiat Ducato
[12:20] <auser> ceefour: it ask me what kind of server drivers
[12:20] <astrangerr> You are so kind
[12:21] <agrasifff32>  i love u more
[12:21] <auser> of x server
[12:21] <astrangerr> i am fallen love with u
[12:21] <astrangerr> make love with bill uncle
[12:21] <agrasifff32> if i wish women ,i will give u
[12:22] <Jucato> clones...
[12:22] <genii> :)
[12:22] <dromer> how can I use ascii-codes in kde?
[12:22] <ceefour> auser: accept the default already chosen, what does it currently selects?
[12:23] <auser> i'm accepting all
[12:23] <auser> just a moment
[12:23] <crazy_bus> Does fsck -c tell you if it found bad blocks?
[12:23] <ceefour> auser, anyways, you can just accept all the defaults (there are lots of dialog boxes) until you come to the dialog where you can choose the screen resolutions needed
[12:23] <ceefour> auser: success?
[12:28] <auser> ceefour: now i can see the resolution in the panel?
[12:28] <auser> ceefour: or i must reboot?
[12:33] <crazy_bus> for me it just said "/dev/hda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****" does that mean I have bad blocks?
[12:36] <eeos> hi all
[12:38] <screemo> crazy_bus: probably, but it should be okay I think
[12:38] <screemo> crazy_bus: did it reboot afterwards?
[12:38] <crazy_bus> I'm doing this of a livecd
[12:38] <screemo> crazy_bus: okay then, thought you had installed the system
[12:39] <screemo> crazy_bus: are you in the process of installing?
[12:39] <crazy_bus> I have installed kubuntu.  I'm running off a knoppix livecd
[12:39] <screemo> crazy_bus: hmm I think you can ignore that message
[12:39] <screemo> crazy_bus: livecd's wont modify your harddisk
[12:40] <screemo> crazy_bus: /dev/hda could be your cdrom by the way
[12:41] <crazy_bus> should I mount the harddrive to fix bad blocks?
[12:41] <screemo> crazy_bus: if you got sata in your machine they're usually named /dev/sda
[12:41] <jkyro> anybody tried to use a http proxy installing kubuntu off the livecd?
[12:41] <crazy_bus> System files have being dissapering off my / partition but not me /home partition.  This has happened and caused me to have to reinstall kubuntu 3 times.  What should I do?
[12:41] <jkyro> i'm currently trying, started the installer from a terminal with http_proxy environment variable...
[12:42] <screemo> crazy_bus: hmm sounds like your harddrive is kinda of sick..
[12:42] <crazy_bus> What should I do?
[12:42] <jkyro> the reason is that I'm inside a firewall that only allows http through a proxy
[12:42] <screemo> crazy_bus: hmm you should really boot it in single user mode, and then run fsck -p -f
[12:43] <screemo> crazy_bus: no guarantees... and I won't be responsible for your system :)
[12:43] <crazy_bus> why should I do that?
[12:43] <screemo> crazy_bus: didn't you want to check your for problems?
[12:43] <screemo> crazy_bus: your hd
[12:44] <crazy_bus> But fsck runs off the livecd.  What is the difference?
[12:44] <screemo> crazy_bus: nothing, that should be fine then.
[12:44] <screemo> crazy_bus: you booted knoppix to fix your harddrive then ?
[12:44] <crazy_bus> yes
[12:45] <screemo> crazy_bus: good, that should be fine then.
[12:45] <crazy_bus> fsck -f said lots of files had delelted inodes
[12:45] <screemo> crazy_bus: ok, you might want to add -p to fix automatically
[12:45] <screemo> crazy_bus: let it run through, and cross your fingers :)
[12:46] <crazy_bus> but the problem is that some of the ones with deleted inodes were system files.
[12:46] <crazy_bus> and fsck -f doesn't bring them back
[12:47] <berkes> where does kde store its screensaver settings?
[12:49] <JohnFlux> berkes: grep screensaver ~/.kde -r
[12:49] <screemo> crazy_bus: you might want to backup /home/<user> and then reinstall, and put /home/<user> back from a backup
[12:49] <crazy_bus> So will fsck -c have marked out bad sectors on my harddrive to prevent files disappearing in the future?
[12:49] <JohnFlux> berkes: :-)
[12:49] <JohnFlux> crazy_bus: yes, but if you have a few bad sectors, then there's a good chance you'll have more bad sectors in the future
[12:49] <crazy_bus> screemo, my home is on a seperate partition, which doesn't get missing files.
[12:49] <JohnFlux> crazy_bus: bad sectors are automatically marked as they are found
[12:50] <screemo> crazy_bus: even better then, but you should really make a backup anyways if you're reinstalling to get your system files back
[12:50] <JohnFlux> crazy_bus: I would order a new hard drive, and switch as soon as possible
[12:50] <jkyro> berkes: config/kdesktoprc
[12:50] <berkes> JohnFlux: yea, and after grepping trough gigabytes of podcasts, IRC logs and whatmore I still id not find /the/ file where it is stored.
[12:50] <crazy_bus> I only just reinstalled because of missiing files yesterday.  Though I only ran fsck -f and not fsck -c
[12:50] <berkes> jkyro: thanks
[12:50] <jkyro> np
[12:52] <berkes> I see Saver=somefile.desktop The saver I want has no .desktop :/ is it si
[12:52] <berkes> is it still possible to run it in KDE?
[12:53] <jkyro> depending on the saver, it may or may not be possible to create one
[12:53] <jkyro> I think
[12:53] <berkes> I want webcollage, its part of xscreensaver, but has no .desktop entry. Hence Its not available in the KDE control centre
[12:54] <gnomefreak> berkes: doesnt owrk on edgy (might have been fixed in dapper)
[12:54] <screemo> anyone know how to bypass that hideous delay when booting kubuntu ? - I'm on a laptop using wireless and knetworkmanager
[12:55] <jkyro> berkes, try creating a .desktop for your saver by tweaking an existing one
[12:55] <JohnFlux> screemo: where does the delay happen?
[12:56] <screemo> JohnFlux: when it's dont dhcp for the network that I haven't got connected
[12:56] <screemo> JohnFlux: dont=doing
[12:57] <screemo> JohnFlux: means, that it should really check the link up condition before attempting to connect
[12:57] <gnomefreak> berkes: it wont be added to kubuntu so you would have to work it out on own sorry.
[12:58] <berkes> jkyro: yea, I just did that. was easier then I thought =)
[12:58] <frojnd> !skype
[12:58] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:58] <dwidmann> screemo, the easiest way is to use a static ip and disable dhcp, if that's doable with wireless (I don't know as I don't use wireless)
[12:58] <berkes> gnomefreak: yea. Why not?
[12:58] <dromer> does anybody know how to use ascii-coding in kde?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> berkes: because people complained about the naked people on it and didnt want that just to pop up at anytime
[12:59] <berkes> gnomefreak: heh :)
[12:59] <crazy_bus> apt-get is now working but it came up with lots of things in the terminal like: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `kubuntu-desktop' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[12:59] <hendrik_> hi
[12:59] <gnomefreak> so they removed it a long time ago and never looked back
[01:00] <berkes> gnomefreak: makes sense though. Its also possibly problematic with copyrights and stuff.
[01:00] <screemo> dwidmann: yes, I know how to get around it manually, but thats wasn't really the point. Point was that there should definitely be a lower dhcp delay and check of the link up before that
[01:01] <crazy_bus> so what can I do about it?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> berkes: are you on dapper?
[01:02] <berkes> gnomefreak: heh. I don't know. Keep forgetting about all these silly names.
[01:02] <gnomefreak> berkes: 6.06?
[01:03] <berkes> no 6.10
[01:03] <berkes> me runs like 5 debian servers and two kubuntu systems.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> berkes: lsb_release -a tells you :)
[01:03] <gnomefreak> they got it up and working in edgy?
[01:07] <berkes> I got it up and working using an homecrafted .desktop
[01:09] <visik7> anyone of u had ever use python-apt binding ?
[01:09] <visik7> is there some kind of doc ?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> visik7: i dont remember but alo tof the docs are in the sources let me check if there is one for python-apt
[01:14] <visik7> only some examples that I can't understand
[01:14] <visik7> and pydoc isn't very helpfull
[01:15] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[01:15] <rysiek|pl> anybody managed to get TVOut to work on the ati/radeon opensource drivers?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> visik7: im not sure. i have never seena  wiki on it
[01:17] <eeos> I am slightly crossed with today's update packages to kde. The problem we had that was solved by the kde 3.5.6 upgrade are here again.
[01:18] <Jucato> what problem? and what update?
[01:19] <eeos> Jucato the automatic updateer proposed a series of updates (bug fixes) this morning (more than 30) which I accepted. They were updates to kde packages.
[01:20] <Jucato> hm...
[01:25] <dwidmann> hmm, looks like the kde related upgrade consists of, basically, all of kdepim
[01:29] <eeos> dwidmann yes plus something as far I remember
[01:34] <eeos> have to go! bye!
[01:41] <d0dge> When I plug an usb-device (usb memory stick) in to my comp, how do I know, which device is it? And I need to mount it, right?
[01:42] <d0dge> Like what's the device's name
[01:45] <rysiek|pl> did anyone manage to get tv-out working with open-source ati/radeon drivers? google didn't help much, neither did the ubuntu wiki
[01:52] <paolo_> hi... I'm still searching for a FTP server which does work on kubuntu.... any Idea? thnks....
[01:58] <genii> !proftpd | paolo_
[01:58] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[01:59] <genii> d0dge: If you do not have any scsi equipment the first usb storage device you plug in will be sda
[02:02] <d0dge> genii: Alright, thanks
[02:02] <genii> d0dge: np
[02:03] <zen> hello i nead tlc do install amsn where do i find it?
[02:04] <genii> !amsn
[02:04] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[02:04] <genii> !tcl
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <genii> bah ubotu
[02:04] <genii> LOL
[02:04] <zen> !tlc
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tlc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <zen> any one knows where to get tlc ?
[02:05] <d0dge> What msn messenger client do you prefer in kubuntu?
[02:06] <d0dge> I use just kopete
[02:06] <genii> Tcl not tlc
[02:07] <distro-tester> tcl
[02:07] <genii> for tlc see your gf/bf LOL
[02:07] <distro-tester> does kopete work fine whit cam on yahoo msn dodge?
[02:07] <distro-tester> they said it has webcam for them both
[02:09] <distro-tester> so dodge?
[02:09] <genii> I like gaim over kopete but perhaps because I like the continuity between platforms I use
[02:10] <distro-tester> i nead to webcam so what ever does cam whit yahoo msn aol is ok for me even if no audio
[02:12] <Tm_T> distro-tester: Atleast MSN webcam works in Kopete.
[02:12] <distro-tester> yes yahoo one works?
[02:13] <Tm_T> No idea, never tried.
[02:13] <Tm_T> But IIRC it should.
[02:13] <distro-tester> do u know a program that has cam for msn yahoo aol even if no mic dosen't matter?
[02:13] <distro-tester> i nead aol cam to
[02:14] <genii> If you require camera then kopete is most useful to you
[02:14] <distro-tester> yes
[02:15] <distro-tester> can u run kopete like gaim yahoo msn at same time and how u do that ?
[02:15] <dwidmann> Tm_T, lots of things *should* work, whether they do or not is usually another matter.
[02:16] <genii> You cannot run 2 programs which are both attempting to use the same protocol at the same time.
[02:16] <yossir> How do I script Konversaion, preferably with Ruby or Python?  Should I do it through DCOP?
[02:16] <distro-tester> well gaim does that
[02:16] <distro-tester> i can both be on yahoo msn same time
[02:16] <genii> eg: kopete using msn protocol and amsn do *not* work together
[02:17] <Jucato> yossir: you could ask in #konversation
[02:17] <yossir> Jucato: thanks
[02:17] <Jucato> yossir: I think you could do python scripts in Konversation. not really sure though
[02:17] <distro-tester> no i ment whit kopete can i be on yahoo and msn at same time as on gaim ?
[02:17] <distro-tester> hey jucato morning
[02:17] <yossir> Jucato: would make sense... KDE seems very Python friendly.
[02:17] <Jucato> hi distro-tester
[02:18] <Jucato> yossir: not KDE generally, but Kubuntu specifically. KDE tries to welcome all bindings... (not sure about .NET though :P)
[02:18] <genii> No, you cannot be on the same service from 2 different programs at the same time with certain protocols like msn protocol. aim/icq is another protocol which does not allow concurrent sessions. irc does for instance
[02:18] <distro-tester> so how can gaim do that?
[02:18] <distro-tester> i rember i was on yahoo msn 2 in 1
[02:19] <TT> yossir: OK. That was the impression I got because of the quality and large community of PyQT
[02:19] <genii> you can be on yahoo and masn at the same time from gaim. but you cannot be on msn grom gaim and msn from kopete at the same time for instance
[02:20] <genii> typos, sorry
[02:20] <genii> With msn protocol for instance, the second time you login, the first instance disconnects
[02:21] <genii> same with aim/icq protocol
[02:23] <dwidmann> more specifically, that only happens if you're using the same login on the same protocol in both programs
[02:23] <genii> dwidmann Exactly
[02:24] <CVirus> !universe
[02:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:26] <CVirus> !mp3
[02:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <distro-tester> i nead this now to install amsn Tk GUI Toolkit where do i find it?
[02:30] <ziza> !network
[02:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:31] <ziza> !network
[02:32] <ziza> !share
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <ziza> !ssh
[02:32] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:35] <Tm_T> dwidmann: I know.
[02:37] <XVampireX> Why doesn't adept have any usability enhancements?
[02:38] <XVampireX> Like for example, it should have the same patches as synaptic, so that people can click to enable universe and multiverse
[02:38] <distro-tester> what's this call Tk GUI Toolkit  in adept?
[02:39] <XVampireX> Tk is a scripting language for GUI's
[02:39] <XVampireX> Kinda like visual basic
[02:39] <XVampireX> but also cross platform, aMSN uses it
[02:40] <distro-tester> yes vampire i nead ti to install amsn can u tell me what name it has on adept?
[02:40] <distro-tester> so i take it
[02:41] <distro-tester> u know then?
[02:44] <XVampireX> distro-tester: kinda
[02:45] <XVampireX> >_<
[02:45] <linopil> missing system settings om KMENu mixed ubuntu kubuntu and edubuntu
[02:45] <linopil> howto apt-get install "system settings" on Kmenu
[02:46] <XVampireX> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <linopil> tyvm
[02:48] <linopil> how to play midi on kubunut
[02:49] <yossir> How do I install a theme on Kubuntu?
[02:50] <yossir> Do I really have to compile it?
[02:50] <dwidmann> a theme, or a kwin-dec? (bit of a difference, both in the level of vagueness and what it actually applies to)
[02:51] <dwidmann> kwin decorations indeed have to be compiled, no other aspects of theming require compilation though ...
[02:51] <yossir> dwidmann: This: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=153 <- which I assume is a theme.
[02:51] <yossir> I got the tar.bz2, now I wonder whether I can just drag and drop it somewhere.
[02:53] <dwidmann> yossir, to install, I think you need to extract the archive (tar xf 153-acqua-3.2.tar.bz2), then run install.sh (./install.sh)
[02:54] <dwidmann> At least, that's what the read me says.
[02:54] <yossir> dwidmann: yeah. I asked because in Gnome (i.e. vanilla Ubuntu) you just D&D to the theme dialog box.
[02:54] <yossir> I thought there might be a nice shortcut like that for Kubuntu as well.
[02:55] <dwidmann> Seems there is for everything but the window decorations
[02:55] <linopil> intel 801 sound ?
[02:55] <dwidmann> (so, themes, styles, icons, colors, etc are still fairly easy ... just not the window decorations, apparently)
[02:57] <XVampireX> !midi | linopil
[02:57] <ubotu> linopil: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:57] <dwidmann> yossir, anyhow, if you're looking for a mac-like theme, there's always baghira, which is apt-get installable
[02:57] <XVampireX> linopil: When in Doubt, ask ubotu ^_^
[02:58] <yossir> dwidmann: thanks, I installed the Acqua theme according to the instructions. But how do I apply it?
[02:58] <XVampireX> yossir: KDE themes are a bit different from gnome themes
[02:58] <yossir> The readme talks about a "Control Center", which doesn't seem to be on the menu.
[02:58] <yossir> XVampireX: how so?
[02:58] <XVampireX> You can use kcontrol
[02:59] <dwidmann> yossir: go into system settings -> appearance -> window decorations
[02:59] <XVampireX> Not window decoration
[02:59] <XVampireX> It's a style
[02:59] <dwidmann> Is it?
[02:59] <XVampireX> So go to Style :P
[02:59] <dwidmann> Guess I wasn't paying much attention :s
[02:59] <XVampireX> Type:  Theme/Style for KDE 3.2 +
[03:00] <XVampireX> It's old though
[03:00] <dwidmann> the person who screenshoted acqua certainly had a mac-like window decoration in use too, so I got confused.
[03:01] <dwidmann> Anyhow, if you want the whole deal, try baghira (apt-get install kwin-baghira)
[03:01] <frojnd> !ark
[03:01] <Kabal> hi there! is there a PAR2 program that can run in KDE?
[03:01] <Kabal> (I use the cmd version at the moment..)
[03:01] <ubotu> ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 287 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[03:01] <yossir> dwidmann: I'll try it, though Acqua is very cool also :)
[03:01] <frojnd> how can I zip some images with ark?
[03:02] <frojnd> or anything with ark
[03:02] <dwidmann> open ark, go to file -> new
[03:02] <dwidmann> pick the name
[03:03] <dwidmann> then go to action -> add file/directory
[03:03] <dwidmann> add them
[03:03] <dwidmann> (dragging and dropping should work too)
[03:05] <yossir> dwidmann: ok, after I apt-get kwin-baghira, what do I do to apply?
[03:06] <dwidmann> yossir, should be in window decorations in system settings/kcontrol
[03:06] <dwidmann> and perhaps style too?
[03:07] <yossir> dwidmann: yeah, appearantly it's both there an in Style
[03:07] <yossir> was just wondering whether there are other places to change...
[03:07] <dwidmann> that should be it, I think
[03:07] <linopil> how do I debug a sound installation of onboard i801 sound
[03:08] <yossir> Baghira looks a lot like the T-ish theme of Gnome.
[03:08] <dwidmann> yossir, baghira is very, VERY customizable
[03:08] <yossir> dwidmann: cool :)
[03:08] <dwidmann> I used to use it
[03:08] <yossir> dwidmann: what do you use now?
[03:09] <yossir> BTW does Konsole have that cool MacOS feature where you have a special icon whenever the console is "busy"?
[03:09] <dwidmann> regular old plastik for windecs, lipstik widgets
[03:10] <dwidmann> I feel like playing with a mac theme again though, so I might do that now :)
[03:11] <yossir> Mac themes are beautiful.
[03:12] <yossir> I used to think it doesn't matter if your DE is nice or not, but now I realize it does make a difference if you're a software developer who sits in front of his computer all day :)
[03:13] <dwidmann> that's where I  hope to be before long :)
[03:13] <yossir> dwidmann: developing software?
[03:13] <dwidmann> Yeah
[03:14] <dwidmann> The sooner I get out of my current job the happier I'll be.
[03:14] <yossir> dwidmann: your current job is?
[03:14] <dwidmann> warehouse slave? (well, I get paid, so I guess that isn't technically accurate)
[03:15] <gogeta> lol
[03:15] <yossir> :)
[03:15] <exel> canal de kubuntu en espaol
[03:16] <genii> !es | exel
[03:16] <ubotu> exel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:16] <exel> #ubuntu-es
[03:16] <dwidmann> actual job title would be order filler, but I think warehouse slave is close enough
[03:16] <genii> exel eg:   /join #ubuntu-es
[03:19] <dwidmann> ooh, that encode is done. I guess I'll reboot and actually get around to testing feisty then
[03:19] <dwidmann> hah, the process ended 20 seconds ago and my processor has already dropped 6 degrees
[03:26] <linopil> \o I burned main DVD - set of repos http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en and now want to use it thru sudo apt-get install
[03:26] <linopil> what do I add in sources.lst any idea?
[03:30] <linopil> what is the name of a GUIi based debian installer?
[03:31] <Lynoure> linopil: googling did not tell you the answer?
[03:31] <sorush20> is there an onscreen keyboard anywhere  ? for kubuntu
[03:32] <vbgunz> I am so burnt it isn't funny. I cannot no matter what I do, get Kubuntu to connect to the internet :( I have a wireless card and router (ralink rt2500, ra0), I should have a static ip address. I know my default gateway, dns, *BUT* no matter what I do, I cannot connect!!
[03:32] <Lynoure> linopil: Do you mean installer that installs debian? Or a package installer from debian?
[03:33] <vbgunz> the network manager sees my card. the wlassistant program sees the routers in the area! ... I have an ASCII wep key and paste it in *BUT* no matter what I cannot connect!
[03:33] <vbgunz> Does anyone know what I am supposed to do!?
[03:33] <vbgunz> is this a puzzle?
[03:33] <vbgunz> I've been doing this for the last 3 hours :(
[03:33] <vbgunz> this is frigging incredible :(
[03:34] <vbgunz> this is a brand new installation
[03:34] <vbgunz> the card works, I've tested it in Ubuntu and Windows... Kubuntu is just friggin broke :(
[03:34] <vbgunz> can someone help me out?
[03:37] <Lynoure> vbgunz: The card manufacturer failing to release specs does not mean Kubuntu is broke. But with a slightly different attitude someone might help you out. Especially if you tell the what card and have read the wifi docs
[03:37] <Lynoure> !wifi | vbgunz
[03:37] <ubotu> vbgunz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:38] <gdiebel> vbgunz: if it is working in ubuntu, then it will work in kubuntu
[03:39] <tibbar> is there anyone here that can give me lots of repsitory's, im using dapper64
[03:39] <apokryphos> tibbar: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[03:39] <vbgunz> gdiebel: yes, I bet it should but how many loops do I have to jump through to get it to work? I know all the info, something is very wrong. pressing the help button don't do nothing either
[03:40] <filip_> Hi! im looking for some kind of plugin for shockwave in kubuntu... where can i find that?
[03:40] <gdiebel> vbgunz: what does ifconfig tell you?
[03:42] <vbgunz> gdiebel: not sure how to read it but it says no errors, no drops, what would you like to know?
[03:42] <vbgunz> I cannot paste it as it isn't connected to the network :(
[03:43] <gdiebel> vbgunz: chipset? using networkmanager?
[03:43] <vbgunz> I went through kcontrol and logged in as admin and made the changes
[03:43] <vlt> Hello. When I copy text from Konqueror and paste it into OpenOffice all the utf8 chars are displayed as if they were 8bit. Where can I set this?
[03:43] <vbgunz> under network settings
[03:44] <ziza_> shouldn't i be able to ping my pc if i connect it with my notebook using a cross-over cable? i have a static ip config on my pc (for internet), can't i ping my pc with the same address or must i use dhcp or something??
[03:46] <ziza_> eth0 on my notebook is up and it has a ip6 address. hmm maybe that's the problem?
[03:46] <vlt> ziza_: To check if an ethernet connection is established you can run `sudo ethtoll -i eth0` when wthtoll is installed.
[03:46] <red22> i'm getting "could not commit changes" from adept manager when trying to remove compiz-plugins.  something about the commit would break packages.  how can i uninstall this safely/cleanly please?
[03:46] <vlt> ziza_: ethtool
[03:46] <vlt> ziza_: sorry ;-)
[03:46] <ziza_> k
[03:46] <ziza_> wth is for wireless?
[03:47] <vbgunz> gdiebel: this is wild :(
[03:47] <vlt> ziza_: No, it should both be ethtool, I repeat ethtool.
[03:47] <vbgunz> when setting up a wireless card in Kubuntu, is there some other place I should be looking to hook it up other than under network settings?
[03:47] <vlt> ziza_: (I'm not familiar with this notebook keyboard ;-)
[03:48] <vlt> vbgunz: You can install knetworkmanagetr
[03:48] <ziza_> vlt: i noticed that already hehe
[03:48] <vlt> vbgunz: damn::knetworkmanager
[03:48] <red22> how do i see what packages depend on a specific package?
[03:48] <gdiebel> vlt: not in his case, he apparently needs to use static ip
[03:49] <ziza_> i get some information, like driver: e100 version: ... firmware-version: N/A bus-info: 0000:0a:08.0
[03:49] <vbgunz> vlt? knetworkmanager?
[03:49] <vbgunz> that comes on the CD?
[03:50] <gdiebel> vbgunz: nope it has to be downloaded on edgy, will be default for feisty
[03:50] <vlt> vbgunz: No. That's why I said install.
[03:50] <vlt> ziza_: from ethtool?
[03:50] <vbgunz> damn...
[03:51] <vlt> ziza_: There's a last line ...
[03:51] <ziza_> yes
[03:51] <ziza_> bus-info is the last line
[03:51] <ziza_> im not connected with the cross-over cable at the moment, by the way
[03:51] <ziza_> if i do that, i don't have internet anymore... so it's a little dilemma :)
[03:52] <vlt> ziza_: Ok. So omit the "-i"
[03:52] <vlt> ziza_: Oops.
[03:52] <vlt> ziza_: So could you describe your probelm again?
[03:52] <vbgunz> wow, so right out of the box, Kubuntu has problems setting up a ralink rt2500 card?
[03:52] <vbgunz> or is it the network manager itself that is messing up?
[03:53] <gdiebel> vbgunz: you misinterpret what vlt said. network manager is optional
[03:53] <ziza_> ok, link detected: no. i'll run the command again with the cable connected
[03:54] <ziza_> i got link detected: yes, so that seems to be fine
[03:54] <vbgunz> gdiebel: I meant the kcontrol > network settings manager application... <- thats broken?
[03:55] <vlt> ziza_: Your PC is static, right? What's on the notebook?
[03:55] <dwidmann> hmm, herd2 install seems to be going smoothly
[03:56] <vbgunz> do I have to restart x, reboot, when I make changes? do I have to enable any services? this is a  fresh install, Windows and Gnome are 1,2,3. Kubuntu, I fill out everything the way it should be filled out, it sees my card, I enabled it and disabled the land, sudo apt-get update hangs and then Err's :(
[03:56] <gdiebel> vbgunz: lets get a few things worked out here. The card should work fine. You mentioned static, are you using encryption on you AP?
[03:56] <ziza_> it's setup default, in fact i'm running a kubuntu live cd, i'm trying to save the partition table and mbr, because i want to do permanent changes on the notebook hd
[03:57] <vlt> ziza_: Default is dhcp, but you can change this easily.
[03:57] <ziza_> when do ifconfig eth0 i see that the NIC has a ip6 address, it doesn't show a ip4 address
[03:57] <vbgunz> gdiebel: yes, wep, it ASCII, I know it and copy it in, I even tried typing it in *but* without some sort of confirmation, I rather copy it in
[03:57] <vlt> ziza_: Just type `sudo ifconfig the.new.ip` on the notebook.
[03:58] <vlt> ziza_: Just type `sudo ifconfig eth0 the.new.ip` on the notebook.
[03:58] <ziza_> ok, but is this gonna remedy the problem that i can't ping the static address of my pc?
[03:59] <vbgunz> gdiebel: under configure for the card, I have it set to manual > ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>, netmask is 255.*3.0
[03:59] <vlt> ziza_: If you have no ipv4 address defines on the notebook it doesn't know where to send the ping to.
[03:59] <vlt> ziza_: Even doesn't know which device to take
[03:59] <vbgunz> gdiebel: essid, I put in the name as if it is case sensitive. I pasted the wep key, the paste is perfect, I select ascii
[04:00] <ziza_> ah that sounds plausible :)
[04:00] <ziza_> ok gonna disconnect now, and ping my pc
[04:00] <vbgunz> gdiebel: under advanced, the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> (router address)
[04:00] <gdiebel> vbgunz: if you are troubleshooting, try enabling dhcp on you AP and try getting a lease
[04:00] <vbgunz> gdiebel: I've tried that so many times :(
[04:01] <ziza_> hurray, it responded
[04:01] <vbgunz> on the next tab, under routes, I again typed in <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:01] <ziza_> thank you so much vtl for helping me :-)
[04:01] <gdiebel> paste the output of ifconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:01] <vlt> ziza_: btw, you can dump your mbr and/or partitions with dd and nc, you know?
[04:01] <gdiebel> vbgunz: paste the output of ifconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:01] <ziza_> vlt: yep, know that already from the ntfsresize page
[04:03] <vlt> So ... when I copy text from Konqueror and paste it into OpenOffice all the utf8 chars are displayed as if they were 8bit. Where can I set this?
[04:03] <linopil> why is firefox closing  on intelcore duo platform some bug?
[04:04] <gdiebel> linopil: using 64 bit?
[04:05] <vbgunz> gdiebel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3348/
[04:05] <kosta> !de
[04:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:08] <vbgunz> gdiebel: really, I think I have everything right. I set this machine up once and took a screenshot of every network settings screen I had to refer to for a fresh install if I ever need to go fresh again *cause* it took me forever to set it up before... this time I followed the screenshots to the T, and I didn't connect, I don't get it :(
[04:08] <sebbar> how do I use a kde theme once I've installed it?
[04:08] <Jucato> !changethemes | sebbar
[04:08] <ubotu> sebbar: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:08] <gdiebel> vbgunz: your ra0 is using the <IP_ADDRESS>. have you tried setting your wireless to a different ip?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:10] <vbgunz> gdiebel: my machines static IP address should be <IP_ADDRESS> and my DNS and gateway should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <vbgunz> sorry,
[04:10] <genii> those IP should be reversed
[04:10] <vbgunz> thats wrong, I said it in reverse
[04:11] <vbgunz> I wish I could upload the screenshots but I don't know where to upload the 5 screenshots
[04:11] <gdiebel> vbgunz: right and your wired interface is using .101. try setting the wireless interface to .102 or something
[04:11] <genii> for sharing images use imageshack
[04:11] <sebbar> trying to configure a kde theme I get: "Can't find X includes. " what am I missing?
[04:12] <Jucato> sebbar: what KDE Theme is that?
[04:12] <vbgunz> gdiebel: I did, I tried in the range of 100 to 102, those are the only 3 my router accepts and the other should be taken
[04:12] <sebbar> Jucato: serenity
[04:12] <Jucato> sebbar: ah that is not a "theme"...that's a widget style. you need to compile that
[04:12] <Jucato> sebbar: so you need the xorg-dev and kde-devel packages
[04:13] <soulrider> hi
[04:13] <soulrider> !firewall
[04:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:13] <gdiebel> vbgunz: paste images to imageshack.us
[04:14] <vbgunz> gdiebel: ok
[04:14] <Jucato> !compile
[04:14] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:14] <Jucato> sebbar: use that guide ^^^
[04:15] <soulrider> does anyone know if guarddog will accept PeerGuardian blocklists ?
[04:18] <sebbar> Jucato: I have some broken packages, how do I fix that?
[04:20] <ScarFreewill> any knows when herd3 comes out?
[04:23] <soulrider> !schedule | ScarFreewill
[04:23] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[04:23] <linopil> jucato \o
[04:24] <vbgunz> gdiebel: here are the 4 screenshots of my network settings
[04:24] <vbgunz> http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1zj9.png
[04:24] <vbgunz> http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2ap0.png
[04:24] <vbgunz> http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3ls2.png
[04:24] <vbgunz> http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4ay3.png
[04:24] <linopil> jucato made a major step downloading main ISO of ubuntu repos to use locally
[04:24] <cultJam`> whose jucato?
[04:24] <linopil> now I must decide on NFS server in LAB right jucato?
[04:25] <cultJam`> oh nm
[04:25] <Jucato> um.. huh? sorry I was afk
[04:25] <linopil> np
[04:25] <linopil> above Jucato
[04:25] <Jucato> linopil: um.. I'm sorry... I have no idea... @_@
[04:26] <linopil> ha sorry for double meaning
[04:26] <linopil> k np
[04:27] <linopil> anyway local DVD is better than networked apt-get install in  cases of meta pckage like kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <Jucato> ah yes
[04:29] <vbgunz> gdiebel: did you see the snapshots?
[04:29] <will_> does anyone have any recommendations on how to diagnose an external hard drive that doesn't want to mount on its own?
[04:29] <apokryphos> what do you mean?
[04:30] <apokryphos> does it have an entry in fstab, and is it set to automount?
[04:31] <will_> apokryphos: are you talking to me?
[04:31] <apokryphos> yes
[04:32] <will_> apokryphos: thanks.  Im a bit of a newbie to linux.  How do I get to fstab?
[04:32] <apokryphos> will_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[04:32] <dwidmann> Hmm,good news for the future ..... "The result is that upgrading from edgy to feisty should be much smoother than from dapper to edgy.
[04:32] <dwidmann> "
[04:33] <ScarFreewill> !msql
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <ScarFreewill> !mysql
[04:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:33] <Lynoure> Unfortunately that do not help people on dapper, unless there will be a path that skips edgy
[04:33] <dwidmann> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/dist-upgrader.png
[04:33] <filip_> where can i find a shockwave plugin for firefox?
[04:34] <linopil> MBR is 446 or 466 bytes?
[04:34] <mezza> hello
[04:35] <linopil> anyone? exact size of MBR?
[04:35] <dwidmann> filip: one doesn't exist.
[04:35] <mezza> i'm a new use on Kubuntu since one month. I have a problem for shutdown my computer, I must allways use my PC button manually :\
[04:35] <filip_> so its not posible to look att shockwave pages with linux?
[04:36] <dwidmann> I've heard of the possibility of using wine to do it, but I'm not sure how well that would work.
[04:36] <vbgunz> gdiebel: do you see anything wrong?
[04:36] <ScarFreewill> !mysql-admin
[04:36] <ubotu> mysql-admin: GUI tool for intuitive MySQL administration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.10-1 (edgy), package size 755 kB, installed size 2016 kB
[04:38] <Riddell> dwidmann: well.., it's far from complete yet
[04:38] <dwidmann> Well, always good to see progress
[04:38] <filip_> ok, so where can i find a Java runtime enviroment? ive tried with one but firefox can stil not open pages based on java.
[04:38] <mezza> someone?
[04:39] <mezza> I think it's a acpi problem
[04:39] <kosta2> !de
[04:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:40] <vbgunz> can anyone help me setup my ralink rt2500 card on Kubuntu? it is supported but the settings don't work, no mattteer what I do
[04:41] <linopil> anyone? exact size of MBR?
[04:41] <linopil> MBR is 446 or 466 bytes?
[04:41] <ziza> 512bytes
[04:42] <will_> hey guys.  I've got an external hd connected by usb 2.  It used to mount upon plugging it in. Now it doesn't.
[04:42] <apokryphos> linopil: what's wrong with google?
[04:42] <apokryphos> will_: have you read the FAQ?
[04:42] <linopil> nothing apokryphos tipota
[04:43] <will_> apokryphos: you're still here.  I looked through the FAQ.  and didn't find what I was looking for.  I found a bunch of info about partititioned internal drives that might be able to be applied to this task by someone who knows what's going on.  I don't
[04:43] <linopil> when on the run asking friends
[04:43] <xenophile7x7> !nickserve
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <xenophile7x7> !nickserv
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <linopil> restarting
[04:43] <apokryphos> will_: almost anything about internal drives can be applied to the external, yes
[04:43] <mezza> no one ?
[04:43] <apokryphos> !anyone
[04:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:44] <Kubuntu|Slave> Help me kopete wont connect to yahoo msgr now :(
[04:44] <Kubuntu|Slave> I guessing its yahoo being gay but not sure
[04:45] <dwidmann> Kubuntu|slave, could be the fault of a typo?
[04:45] <Kubuntu|Slave> typo dosnt login
[04:45] <Kubuntu|Slave> no connection on & off on & off repeatedly
[04:45] <Kubuntu|Slave> doesnt say login wrong
[04:46] <dwidmann> odd.
[04:46] <Jucato> Yahoo Messenger has been "playful" the past 2 weeks for me too
[04:46] <Kubuntu|Slave> u mean effin gay :P
[04:46] <dwidmann> Yeah, that too.
[04:46] <will_> apokryphos: I did sudo fdisk -l, and my external drive is not showing up
[04:46] <Kubuntu|Slave> cus it works fine for windows just not on linux
[04:46] <apokryphos> will_: is it plugged in and on?
[04:47] <dwidmann> That all depends on how one defines fine ...
[04:47] <will_> apokryphos: it is a FAT 32 partition.  yes, it is on and plugged in
[04:47] <slyfox> Please help. I have a sound problem. Video and mp3 and general sound work fine, but when it comes to skype or Gizmo, the sound has problems. Whenever I make a call, the sound is like when you have 100% cpu usage and are playing an mp3 file, it has this buzzing noise.  I trid both - ALSA and OSS (no idea
[04:47] <slyfox> what they mean though, I am a noob) and both have the same problem. When I look at the cpu usage when making a call, both programs are not using full cpu, they use very little - the normal usage. The sound is still choppy. What is going on?
[04:47] <apokryphos> will_: ok. Turn it off, then turn it back on and pastebin me the output of dmesg|tail
[04:48] <d0uglas_> gotta scoop some documents off my office windows box, got my kubuntu live cd, want to mount the xp drive. I'm guessing it's nfs or whatever xp uses... iirc, that fs ain't mountable? gotta be fat32?
[04:48] <will_> apokryphos: I tried plugging it into a windows box.  It recognized it as plugged in and a USB mass storage device (as evidenced by the safely remove hardware app).  However, the windows box also didn't mount the drive.
[04:48] <Kubuntu|Slave> does anyone know if yahoo changed rotocols again? do I have to modify ports in copete to get functioning again
[04:48] <Kubuntu|Slave> will_ your deice might be effed up then
[04:48] <apokryphos> will_: well, let's see what the output is; may be able to get it to work
[04:49] <Kubuntu|Slave> device*
[04:49] <vbgunz> gdiebel: I really need your help, did you fall asleep :(
[04:49] <will_> apokryphos: how do I get the output of dmesg|tail?
[04:49] <apokryphos> will_: type it in a terminal
[04:50] <d0uglas_> how can i mount an xp filesystem (ntfs?) from a live cd boot?
[04:50] <Kubuntu|Slave> U cant as Iknow, I tried :P
[04:50] <d0uglas_> damn.
[04:50] <apokryphos> d0uglas: are you sure it hasn't already been mounted?
[04:50] <d0uglas_> apokryphos: not seeing it from df, /mnt is empty
[04:51] <Kubuntu|Slave> I am woking on getting a Linux/Xp boot from 1 disk split partitions :)
[04:51] <Kubuntu|Slave> u gotta enable it in partition manager
[04:51] <d0uglas_> fstab?
[04:51] <genii> What, mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount -t ntfs /dev/device# /mnt/tmp doesn't do it?
[04:51] <Kubuntu|Slave> doesnt always work either gives errors
[04:51] <Jucato> d0uglas_: try to make a temporary mount point "sudo mkdir /media/temp", then "sudo mount /dev/where_ntfs_partition_is /media/temp" ?
[04:51] <apokryphos> d0uglas: I think ubuntu puts it in /media, but anyhow, just follow the FAQ
[04:51] <Kubuntu|Slave> I use the manager to mount ntfs & gives me errors :(
[04:53] <Kubuntu|Slave> I got a prob loading linux after updated last night, says cannot kill Pid 7152 & stays there I had to do a recovery to get in
[04:53] <d0uglas_> Sigh.. bunch of ntfs-fs errors
[04:53] <d0uglas_> sounds like this ain't gonna happen
[04:53] <Kubuntu|Slave> as I figured it would douglas
[04:54] <d0uglas_> time to call the IT lady
[04:54] <Kubuntu|Slave> hink there is a script to load ntfs's check ur adept manager
[04:54] <d0uglas_> Kubuntu|Slave: ... screw it ;) thanks anyway fellas
[04:54] <Kubuntu|Slave> :P
[04:54] <d0uglas_> :P ?? i gave you a winky happy face
[04:55] <yuriy> !ntfs
[04:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:55] <yuriy> !ntfs-3g
[04:55] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:55] <ubuntu_> hello<<<do you know where i can find a french canal
[04:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: french
[04:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:55] <ubuntu_> okm thank
[04:55] <d0uglas_> where do i go for xp help... not efnet i hope
[04:55] <Kubuntu|Slave> Not here :P
[04:56] <Kubuntu|Slave> join computerhelp in undernet
[04:56] <dwidmann> !windows
[04:56] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:56] <Kubuntu|Slave> they might help u watch out for chronovore he a moron
[04:57] <will_> apokryphos: I know this is rediculous, but what pastebin do you like. The kubuntu one seems entirely overloaded.  I can't get it to load my paste.
[04:58] <dwidmann> will_ pastebin.com seems to work fine
[04:58] <vbgunz> can anybody help me!?
[04:58] <nuxil> nop
[04:58] <Kubuntu|Slave> not mentaly we cant :P
[04:58] <apokryphos> !paste | will_
[04:58] <ubotu> will_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:58] <genii> Please, slap him again for me
[04:58] <M_Fatih> hi is there any applet displays cpu, ram, swap, network action monitor like gnome system monitor applet?
[04:59] <frojnd> hello
[04:59] <Kubuntu|Slave> gnome is evil
[04:59] <frojnd> what I have to install so I can see cpu T
[04:59] <rominou> Hello
[04:59] <Kubuntu|Slave> try ctrl esc to get a taskmanager
[04:59] <vbgunz> my network settings manager is screwed! on a brand new install, my wireless card will *not* connect to my router!
[04:59] <frojnd> I wanna se cpu temeprature
[04:59] <frojnd> temperature*
[04:59] <dwidmann> frojnd: lm-sensors
[04:59] <will_> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3361/
[05:00] <vbgunz> is the network settings manager buggy!? if it is, can I somehow maybe set all of properties manually!?
[05:00] <rjb> hi there
[05:00] <Kubuntu|Slave> If its not  smoking or resetting dont worry about the temp :P
[05:00] <vbgunz> Kubuntu|Slave: gnome ain't evil, at least it's network settings manager works
[05:00] <Kubuntu|Slave> kde works better
[05:01] <apokryphos> will_: and pastebin sudo fdisk -l if you can
[05:01] <rjb> should amarok be able to convert m4a files to mp3 on transfer to a portable player, if mp3 is what the player is configed as supporting?
[05:01] <Kubuntu|Slave> _will if you dont know how to copy & paste then linux not for u :P
[05:02] <nuxil> i have installed the nvidia driver. however its slow as hell,, my windows on my desktop are lagging when i move them.. anyone got an idea why? my card is a gforce 8800, it should not lag at all when i move windowses
[05:02] <apokryphos> Kubuntu|Slave: erm, he quite evidently does. He was talking about the pastebin.
[05:02] <ninHer> Kubuntu|Slave: the answer is not correct
[05:02] <dwidmann> !nvidia9 | nuxil
[05:02] <will_> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3362/   (its at the bottom)
[05:02] <ubotu> nuxil: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[05:02] <dwidmann> !envy | nuxil
[05:02] <ubotu> nuxil: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[05:02] <vbgunz> wow, this sucks
[05:03] <Kubuntu|Slave> ninHer I got n probs with kde network manager, U might need to update to 6.10
[05:03] <apokryphos> will_: weird, it seems to complain about some errors with the disk.
[05:03] <dwidmann> nuxil, you need the nvidia 9746 drivers for the 8800 series card.
[05:03] <apokryphos> will_: I recommend filing a bug report about that
[05:03] <rjb> ..or, which package has a converter that could recode m4a into mp3?
[05:03] <ninHer> Kubuntu|Slave wrong address
[05:04] <nuxil> dwidmann, i installed the 9746 version of the driver
[05:04] <will_> apokryphos: is there a disk diagnostic/recovery program that you would recommend?
[05:04] <nuxil> dwidmann, i used the file from nvidia's site
[05:04] <Kubuntu|Slave> then your typing somthing wrong :P ninher ur using gnome its difficult navigation & tools must be exactly set to work
[05:04] <dwidmann> nuxil: and, did you run nvidia-xconfig afterwards?
[05:04] <nuxil> dwidmann, yes that was run automaticlay
[05:04] <Kubuntu|Slave> what network ool for gnome you using?
[05:05] <Kubuntu|Slave> tool*
[05:05] <ninHer> Kubuntu|Slave i didn't asked for nothing to you
[05:05] <nuxil> well.. i presses yes when it asked me if i wanted to run it
[05:05] <dwidmann> nuxil: ouch, guess support for it is still buggy then
[05:05] <apokryphos> will_: fire up qtparted and see if it detects. If not, then I have no idea tbh, and you'd need to file a bug report.
[05:05] <nuxil> damn :\
[05:05] <dwidmann> nuxil: try asking on the nvidia forums
[05:05] <Kubuntu|Slave> ninher U asing about netowrking somthing I know much about DONT get rude
[05:05] <will_> apokryphos: thanks for your help
[05:06] <ninHer> Kubuntu|Slave please, review the log.....i did not ask to you anything
[05:06] <linopil> cdrom mistakenly mounts to /media/cdrom-1 instead of /media/cdrom after imageing HD
[05:06] <apokryphos> come on guys, calm down :)
[05:06] <linopil> meaning this behaviour is on new copy of ubuntu install
[05:06] <Kubuntu|Slave> Ninher u asked cahnnel for help I am trying to help are you that dense ninher
[05:06] <apokryphos> Kubuntu|Slave: stop
[05:07] <Kubuntu|Slave> :p its ok stupidity will = her kick
[05:07] <linopil> apokryphos: se parakalo
[05:07] <ninHer> Kubuntu|Slave review the log
[05:07] <nuxil> dwidmann, ok i'll try that envy stuff..
[05:07] <nuxil> see how that goes
[05:08] <Kubuntu|Slave> ninher review me giving you the inger & ignorong stupid ppl :)
[05:08] <Kubuntu|Slave> have a lousy day :)
[05:08] <apokryphos> linopil: is there a /media/cdrom directory?
[05:08] <ninHer> thanks a lot apokryphos
[05:09] <kelalaka> selam
[05:09] <apokryphos> !tr
[05:09] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:12] <Kubuntu|Slave_> Abuser of ops\
[05:12] <crazy_penguin> good afternoon
[05:15] <frojnd> how can I make file mkdev.sh
[05:15] <linopil> apokryphos: sorry /cdrom
[05:15] <frojnd> mk mkdev.sh ?
[05:15] <apokryphos> linopil: in the root directory, really /cdrom?
[05:17] <linopil> yep apokryphos for some reason this is how it appears in sources.list
[05:17] <apokryphos> sources.list? Now you're confusing me.
[05:17] <nuxil> hmm.. dwidmann i noticed another issue.. i cant "ctrl alt Fx" damn crappy driver
[05:18] <marilia> OLA
[05:18] <nuxil> dwidmann, and my screen goes black.. and i cany ctrl alr f7 again to go back
[05:18] <linopil> maybe I change cdrom  in sources.list apokryphos and that'it?
[05:18] <ninHer> hi marilia
[05:18] <nuxil> *cant
[05:18] <apokryphos> linopil: do you really mean sources.list and not fstab?
[05:18] <linopil> yes apt-get is asking for edgy cdrom because it appears in sources.list apokryphos
[05:19] <linopil> k?
[05:19] <ninHer> apokryphos:may be he has to erase the deb lines in fstab
[05:19] <apokryphos> linopil: can you paste me that one entry?
[05:19] <dwidmann> nuxil, sounds like bugs if I ever heard of 'em, definitely post on the nvidia forums about it, maybe it'll get fixed soon.
[05:19] <linopil> adept batch opems window asking for ubuntu edgy eft in /cdrom/
[05:19] <nuxil> i hope so
[05:19] <linopil> k apokryphos
[05:20] <dwidmann> nuxil: fortunately for me it works fine with my 7900gtx :)
[05:20] <ninHer> seems like if trying to get the files fron cdrom instead the net
[05:20] <linopil> running kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <marilia> hey
[05:20] <nuxil> dwidmann, lucky you :P
[05:21] <linopil> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted apokryphos
[05:21] <linopil> pasted from sources.list
[05:21] <marilia> hello albi
[05:22] <dwidmann> I think I'm going to catch some Z's .... stayed up all night and it's already noon. The sun is up, and I'm apparently allergic to sunlight anyway.
[05:22] <linopil> BTW donloaded DVD main.iso from cargol.net amd hope to insert it in sources.list too apokryphos
[05:24] <apokryphos> linopil: and you want the CD rom to be used with apt?
[05:24] <linopil> only this "" sudo mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom """ helps apokryphos
[05:25] <linopil> yep and automatically
[05:27] <linopil> in general many annoying obstacles to automating kubuntu installations
[05:27] <sb9> anyone of you having problems with nagios ?
[05:28] <marilia> hoy
[05:28] <marilia> hghuxs
[05:28] <marilia> hgdfszx
[05:28] <marilia> knjku
[05:30] <apokryphos> marilia: what are you doing?
[05:30] <red22> i'm running 6.10 will someone pls look if kdebase is installed... i messed up some packages and am reinstalling as much as i can..
[05:31] <red22> how about kdelibs?
[05:40] <CVirus> !mp3
[05:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <jharonx> maleeeeeeeeeeemmmm
[05:49] <snama> hey all whats up?
[05:49] <snama> i just want to know how you get up the Katapult dialog
[05:50] <CVirus> !flash9
[05:50] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:50] <snama> any1?
[05:50] <CVirus> !flash
[05:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <snama> whats the main differences between flash 7 and flash 9 ?
[05:50] <snama> !katapult
[05:50] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[05:52] <lgsobalvarro> ubotu: katapult make the same think that makes Quicksilver on mac :D
[05:52] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 322 kB, installed size 2716 kB
[05:56] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's batery monitor with kpowersave ?
[05:58] <yossir> The system tray is very cool. The idea that you launch and then receive feedback from the same icon is very cool.
[05:59] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?
[06:00] <byewindows> I can't close my session in Kubuntu with the menu K
[06:01] <byewindows> someone know where is the bug?
[06:02] <lgsobalvarro> byewindows: why you can't ?
[06:02] <HymnToLife> byewindows, "I can't do this" doesn't help...
[06:02] <byewindows> lgsobalvarro: yes, I want to do a K/Deconnection/Shutdown the computer but I have always a black screen
[06:03] <byewindows> in menu.lst I have add # defoptions=quiet splash vga=791 acpi=force apm=off resume=/dev/sda5
[06:03] <HymnToLife> byewindows, why did you add all this ?
[06:04] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?
[06:05] <HymnToLife> !repeat | lgsobalvarro
[06:05] <ubotu> lgsobalvarro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:05] <byewindows> HymnToLife: cause I have read http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=75550#p587257
[06:06] <byewindows> HymnToLife: do you have an another idea? a solution?
[06:08] <lgsobalvarro> HymnToLife: it's a simple question, not a wiki question or something like that
[06:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> can open office be installed on windows? if so, could someone give the download address, thx
[06:13] <HymnToLife> Balsamic_Chicken, yes, you can download the installer from openoffice.org
[06:13] <Balsamic_Chicken> HymnToLife thx
[06:13] <lgsobalvarro> Balsamic_Chicken: of course it's an oppen office version for windows, download it frim openoffice.org
[06:14] <Balsamic_Chicken> Igsobalvarro thx =)
[06:14] <slyfox> Please help. I have a sound problem. Video and mp3 and general sound work fine, but when it comes to skype or Gizmo, the sound has problems. Whenever I make a call, the sound is like when you have 100% cpu usage and are playing an mp3 file, it has this buzzing noise.  I trid both - ALSA and OSS (no idea
[06:14] <slyfox> what they mean though, I am a noob) and both have the same problem. When I look at the cpu usage when making a call, both programs are not using full cpu, they use very little - the normal usage. The sound is still choppy. What is going on?
[06:18] <d0uglas_> The Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG wifi adapter.. any known issues with wpa?
[06:18] <andriijas> is there any alternatives to vmware? open source preferable
[06:22] <BluesKaj> anyone using pysoulseek here.. need the python vorbis bindings , but google can't find them
[06:23] <Sanne> andriijas: there's qemu
[06:25] <akrus> what's an option like FollowSymLinks for proftpd?
[06:25] <gustav_> hi, I have a problem. I just installed the ati drivers with their graphical installer and it worked fine. And in my xorg.conf i have the fglrx driver under devices. But one I use glxinfo | grep direct to see if I have direct rendering it returns no
[06:26] <gustav_> any one have an idea what I should do to activate direct rendering
[06:27] <Mo-Z> ok... a bit of networkproblem... after changing to a WiFi router at home (connectet via dsl cable to kubuntubox), all internetsurfing has been slower... anyone knows y?
[06:27] <gustav_> i'm using 6.10 kubuntu
[06:28] <Sanne> gustav_: I don't have an ati card, so I can't really help, but give you the link to the wiki page, in case you didn't find it already: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:29] <BluesKaj> gustav,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[06:30] <Mo-Z> how to reconfigure internetconnedtion maybe?
[06:31] <gustav_> I don't have to uninstall the old driver then?
[06:31] <darthdual> Does anyone know how to adjust the xfree configuration on ubuntu
[06:34] <linopil> !aiglx
[06:34] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[06:35] <slyfox> Anyone here uses Skype or Gizmo ?
[06:35] <timster> Can you get a skype alternative?
[06:35] <timster> Heh
[06:35] <slyfox> timster: I tried Gizmo, same problem there
[06:35] <timster> Or does skype work with linux
[06:36] <slyfox> timster: proabbly problem with ALSA, do you know anything about ALSA ?
[06:36] <timster> No
[06:37] <jmichaelx> does anyone in here have amarok working well with an ipod? i have a 30G ipod video, and amarok crashes any time i attempt to add a track to the ipod. it will, however, play music from the ipod.
[06:38] <gustav_> hehe sry I restarted my xserver can you post the link to the guide for the ati drivers again
[06:38] <gustav_> I'll put a bookmark on it this time
[06:38] <Ignite> timster: skype withs with Linux.
[06:38] <Ignite> :)
[06:39] <zany> hallo
[06:39] <Ignite> withs with Linux...
[06:39] <Ignite> doesn't look right.
[06:39] <Ignite> works*
[06:39] <Ignite> <_<
[06:39] <Ignite> Hallo zany
[06:39] <Ignite> :)
[06:39] <lgsobalvarro> slyfox: do you use kopete? do you try the extra skype-plugin for kopete?
[06:40] <slyfox> lgsobalvarro: no idea that such plugin exists
[06:40] <Ignite> I wonder if the Linux version of Skype has caught up yet...
[06:40] <slyfox> lgsobalvarro: can kopete talk say to yahoo messenger or google talk ?
[06:40] <Ignite> I believe it works with Google Talk.
[06:40] <Ignite> Not sure about Yahoo..
[06:41] <Bxnp-away> slyfox: are you talking voice
[06:41] <slyfox> Bxnp-away: yes
[06:41] <gustav_> Can anyone please scroll up and paste the url to the ati guide again :)
[06:41] <Bxnp-away> key
[06:41] <gustav_> it was posted like 5-10min ago
[06:41] <Bxnp-away> ehm that i dont know
[06:41] <slyfox> Bxnp-away: can kopete sign in into google talk and just chat ?
[06:42] <jmichaelx> i didn't know that kopete could do google talk at all
[06:42] <Bxnp-away> yes, and to yahoo messagenger
[06:42] <Ignite> gustav_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:42] <lgsobalvarro> slyfox: it's an extra plugin that works with skype. It's in extragear.kde.org
[06:43] <gustav_> Ignite: thank you :)
[06:43] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?
[06:43] <slyfox> I think I found a problem, need you peple to stay with me and her to what I think it is
[06:43] <Bxnp-away> but with this plugin you need skype to be installed slyfox
[06:43] <Ignite> gustav_: np :)
[06:44] <jthomas> good day, kubunteurs!  anyone seen the new Mandriva with Metisse?  Its great!  Anyone know if Metisse will be built for Kubuntu?
[06:44] <jmichaelx> is there a goog kubuntu package for finding and changing xp pro passwords? :-D
[06:44] <jmichaelx> *ubuntu
[06:45] <jthomas> the liveCD STD has that built in, as does Ultimate Boot CD
[06:45] <jthomas> not sure about *ubuntu
[06:45] <slyfox> I think it has to do with my laptop intel centrino mobile processor. It is set to be on dynamic switching, so most of the time it runs on 800Mhz, and can go up to 2.0Ghz. You know how laptop cpus work. Now, when  I make a skype call I get this sound probelm of l aa  aggg g ...  But if I start to drag and move around skype window on my screen, the CPU speeds up and the voice becomes normal. so it seems that skype is
[06:45] <slyfox> lacking cpu when it makes the call, somehow it is not getting enough power ... ?
[06:46] <bronze_0_1> slyfox: change your power management profile
[06:46] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: where do I acces it ?
[06:46] <bronze_0_1> your cpu is being throttled down
[06:46] <bronze_0_1> dunno, i don't have a Kubuntu laptop
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> I have a centos laptop
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> somewhere under system settings
[06:47] <bronze_0_1> probably "laptops and power:
[06:48] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: I dont see anything liek that
[06:49] <bronze_0_1> startmenu
[06:49] <konki> helllo channel
[06:49] <bronze_0_1> just above the actions section - "system settings" => second row "hardware choose "laptops and power"
[06:50] <bronze_0_1> cant get you any closer. Its all disablesd in mine.
[06:51] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: Where is it ? http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/5730/snapshot1qy8.jpg
[06:51] <jthomas> click "Advanced" in the top left
[06:51] <jthomas> you're running 6.10 which has a different layout
[06:52] <akrus> how to extract files from RPM?
[06:52] <jthomas> slyfox: click Advanced
[06:52] <bronze_0_1> slyfox, yeah try advanced. Mine doesn't have the tabs at the top.
[06:52] <slyfox> jthomas: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9625/snapshot2oy1.jpg
[06:52] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: not there http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9625/snapshot2oy1.jpg
[06:53] <konki> so i newly installed kubuntu.. and i guess i'm supposed to have office math in my office folder
[06:53] <konki> but it is not shown
[06:53] <bronze_0_1> slyfox: are you logged in as root?
[06:53] <jthomas> lol hmmm dunno
[06:53] <konki> any ideas on how to access it?
[06:53] <jthomas> bronze_0_1: cannot login as Root to *ubuntu
[06:53] <bronze_0_1> sur you can
[06:53] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: no, I am logged in as the user which I have created upon Kubuntu install
[06:54] <jthomas> konki try [alt] [f2]  to run a program, and then try its name
[06:54] <jthomas> if not, open Adept and search for it to be sure its installed
[06:54] <jthomas> slyfox: look in Adept to see if KDE laptop stuff is installed
[06:54] <konki> will try
[06:55] <jthomas> konki i have K6.06 and its not in my default install... is it OOo application?
[06:56] <bronze_0_1> slyfox: traverse thru all the tabs and see if there is any thing related rto power or power management
[06:56] <bronze_0_1> or power profiles
[06:56] <bronze_0_1> it itd there it will be asuy to find
[06:56] <bronze_0_1> *easy
[06:56] <slyfox> jthomas: yes and ACPI is working, and all applciaitons are working fine, meaning when they need more cpu they get it. But not skype or gizmo. Strange I had my previous dual boot isntallation of Kubunut 6.10 and Skype was workng fine.
[06:56] <konki> alright.. that worked.. after i figured out that the command was ooffice -math
[06:56] <konki> what if i wouldn't have been able to figure that out
[06:57] <konki> like wine.. i think i successfully installed wine via aptitude
[06:57] <konki> but now i'm not sure what to do
[06:57] <konki> i'm a new linux user.. kinda lost
[06:57] <Ignite> konki: just click on any windows exe files, they should open with wine.
[06:57] <konki> cool
[06:57] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: there is a search and search gives no results for pwer
[06:58] <Ignite> konki: if you want to configure wine settings, like windows version and themes, just run winecfg
[06:58] <Bxnp-away> and donkt make the same mistake some other guy on this channel made konki, trying to insatll itunes, check out at http://www.postproductie.nl cause spyware does exist ahahahah
[06:59] <jthomas> OOo math can prob be accessed just by opening OOo and then choosing New Math from the File menu
[07:01] <Mo-Z> how to reconfigure eth0 in kubuntu?
[07:01] <LjL> Mo-Z: system settings / network settings
[07:02] <gustav_> victory the ati drivers is working :)
[07:02] <Ignite> Lol I thought it'd be obvious that if you enable your Linux machine to run Windows software you're opening the door to all kinds of nasty things. >_>
[07:03] <konki> i guess that would make sense
[07:03] <konki> like i said.. i'm a new user.. i cam
[07:03] <konki> woops
[07:04] <Ignite> :)
[07:04] <konki> can't say i have a problem with windows.. i just wanted to see what linux was all about
[07:04] <LjL> few viruses are known to work successfully in WINE
[07:04] <konki> good to know
[07:04] <|S^S^AWAY|> since when do viruses function on linux:P
[07:04] <Ignite> I'd run ClamAV though, just incase.
[07:05] <jthomas> from OpenOffice, select New FORMULA to open OOo Math... yeah *that* makes sense!
[07:05] <konki> now how would i tell if i even have that installed?
[07:05] <konki> i don't see a whole lot of anything in add/remove
[07:05] <LjL> |S^S^AWAY|: since ever. there are linux viruses, though few of them and probably none in the wild, and there is no conceptual reason why Windows viruses wouldn't run in WINE
[07:05] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?
[07:05] <jthomas> KlamAV is the KDE front for ClamAV; again, look in Adept to see if the app is there
[07:05] <LjL> although shortcomings of WINE make that unlikely
[07:06] <Soul^Reaver> yeah but viruse for windows cant survive in linux enviroment :P
[07:06] <Soul^Reaver> close wine kill virus :)
[07:06] <konki> question:  is there a shortcut key for a terminal window?
[07:06] <Soul^Reaver> :)
[07:07] <Soul^Reaver> intresting
[07:07] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: for that matter, shut down Windows and kill virus... nobody says it hasn't already damaged your files, used the network or something, though.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> konki,  ya may want to install that YaQuake (i think) terminal. it lets a terminal popdown  like a quake console.
[07:07] <konki> seems as much as it's used there should be one
[07:07] <Dr_willis> !info yakuake
[07:07] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[07:07] <Dr_willis> konki,  err... i just leave a terminal open. :)
[07:07] <Soul^Reaver> nah linux enviromen & commands incompatible decides viruses cant do much in normal access
[07:07] <Ignite> I make heavy use of alt+f2
[07:08] <Dr_willis> or add that little command applet to the panel.
[07:08] <Soul^Reaver> or put terminal in desktop as shortcut :)
[07:08] <konki> good idea
[07:08] <Dr_willis> or use that Katapult feature..
[07:08] <konki> i used to use this program called eConsole for windows.. it's a transparent console window.. know of any like that for linux
[07:08] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: a WINE program can very well, say, delete files from your home. there's absolutely nothing stopping it from doing that.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> konki,  your description is sort of vague :) theres ways to get transparent 'terminal windows' on the desktop under linux.
[07:09] <konki> elaborate
[07:09] <Soul^Reaver> ljl a microsoft virus would'nt know how too nor understand the pah, It would try c:\home & fail
[07:09] <Dr_willis> konki,  then theres the 100+ karamba applets that can do a lot of eye candy things.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> Soul^Reaver,  that would be the least of the problems. :)
[07:09] <konki> karamba
[07:09] <Soul^Reaver> path*
[07:09] <konki> let me try that
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[07:09] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[07:10] <Alzi2> On kubuntu, how do you add Dutch to your list of translations on KDE?
[07:10] <Soul^Reaver> I know how virus code works :P I dicected a few & make em destroy themsleves
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !info rootterminal
[07:10] <ubotu> Package rootterminal does not exist in any distro I know
[07:10] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: my (default, iirc) WINE install has Z: mapped to the root filesystem. don't see why a virus wouldn't try writing in there
[07:10] <carlos__> holass
[07:10] <carlos__> como estan
[07:10] <LjL> and D: mapped as /home for that matter
[07:10] <Soul^Reaver> a virus could only damage the virtual windows path :P
[07:10] <LjL> !es | carlos__
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !es
[07:10] <ubotu> carlos__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:10] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: don't see why
[07:11] <Soul^Reaver> it can wrte too root but wont function path names & even frmat incompatible
[07:11] <Soul^Reaver> windows uses   c cobalt vb & other code
[07:11] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: nonsense, Z:\home\ljl\thesis.odt is as a windows compliant path as it gets
[07:11] <bronze_0_1> slyfox: just got back. I meant for you to search the tabs by hand, cleack each item and read it
[07:11] <LjL> what? what does that have to do with anything?
[07:11] <bronze_0_1> *click
[07:11] <Soul^Reaver> yes it will write to Z: u kill wine & removes that path
[07:11] <konki> alright.. so i'd like to install karamba.. and i tried "aptitude install karamba"
[07:12] <konki> didn't work
[07:12] <Soul^Reaver> a virtual drive can be remade & virus gone
[07:12] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: yes, and my files are gone meanwhile
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:12] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !info karamba
[07:12] <ubotu> karamba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB
[07:12] <konki> it's just the only way i've installed anything so far
[07:12] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: that's NOT virtual! that's my HOME directory!
[07:12] <konki> alright
[07:12] <Dr_willis> its in 'universe' repository
[07:12] <LjL> there's nothing virtual in /home/ljl
[07:12] <Soul^Reaver> just remake path & re d/l files :P
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[07:12] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[07:12] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: .....
[07:12] <LjL> you know people sometimes *create* files and not download them?
[07:12] <konki> how do i get to universe repository
[07:13] <LjL> like, the entire goal of using a computer
[07:13] <LjL> Ubotu, tell konki about universe | konki, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:13] <slyfox> bronze_0_1: do you know what can I use in Kubuntu to cause high cpu load? I want to see if my cpu will speed up ?
[07:13] <Soul^Reaver> microsoft viruses cannot survive in a linux enviroment u kill wine u kill virii no damage done
[07:13] <LjL> ok just keep repeating yourself that
[07:14] <Soul^Reaver> well wine is also unstable so might be just wine failed also
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Soul^Reaver,  this whole discussion is like a broken pencil... pointless..
[07:14] <bronze_0_1> slyfox: try some GUI games
[07:14] <LjL> which is what i've been saying from the beginning.
[07:14] <LjL> 99% of viruses don't work *because* of WINE glitches.
[07:14] <Soul^Reaver> Ljl dont listen to fact
[07:14] <LjL> other points are moot.
[07:15] <konki> is 6.10 upward compatible with 6.06?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> and that fact that most viruses these days are very specific to a specific program/exploit. that wine may or may not even be running.. :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> !universe
[07:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:15] <Soul^Reaver> as one who at one time used to make viruses, I know how they work ljl :)
[07:15] <Alzi2> How to access the 'Session manager' configuration in kubuntu?
[07:15] <Soul^Reaver> should be in the menu
[07:15] <konki> gives directions for 6.06.. i'm assuming i can use those for 6.10
[07:15] <Alzi2> Not in the system config.
[07:16] <Alzi2> Found it.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> !repo
[07:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. those shoudl of been updated by now.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> I always use the !easysource stuff anyway
[07:16] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[07:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:17] <Soul^Reaver> dont forget if u find sumthing make shortcut to desktop or kpanel to find easy again :)
[07:18] <Soul^Reaver> wonder if wine will work with EUdemons online :?
[07:20] <Soul^Reaver> hhmmm wine dont come with kubuntu 6.10 :(
[07:20] <Soul^Reaver> !wine
[07:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:21] <konki> yup
[07:21] <Soul^Reaver> I hear there other programs suposidly better then wine, ne1 remember the name?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> when in doubt... read the beginner guides.. :)
[07:21] <Dr_willis> wine, cedega, crossover-office
[07:21] <jthomas> anyone know about running Metisse in Kubuntu?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> then ya got the vmware/qemu/other emulator methods
[07:21] <Soul^Reaver> ah cedega is it
[07:21] <konki> i got the adept manager downloading something
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Cedega is not free.
[07:21] <Soul^Reaver> !cedega
[07:21] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:22] <Soul^Reaver> used to be
[07:22] <Dr_willis> But it does seem to work very well.
[07:22] <konki> not sure exactally how it's working.. but it's working.. right clicked/added multiverse/applied
[07:22] <Dr_willis> the CVS version is 'free'
[07:22] <Soul^Reaver> well  Ihave to find a full version of torrent huh :P
[07:22] <Dr_willis> No not really
[07:22] <Dr_willis> go pay your $5 or use the cvs. or normal wine..
[07:23] <Soul^Reaver> bah
[07:23] <Dr_willis> 'egads' you may have to go with out a soda pop.. for a day or 3.....
[07:23] <Dr_willis> ;)
[07:24] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. bye
[07:25] <Soul^Reaver> pencil dick :p I might have to go without food 3 days :( anyway I using edy can I load cedega on n edgy system?
[07:25] <Soul^Reaver> adgy*
[07:25] <Soul^Reaver> edgy* damn Keyboard
[07:26] <hanso> ohh. now my sound doesn't work and Kmix says that it can't find sound mixer. what can I do?
[07:28] <blue|palm> NEED URGENT HELP: Just started porting my Python Program I had written in windows over to linux on kubuntu, but from programming in eclipse I try to compile the program, only to discover that eclipse is running the python interpreter as a standard user (not as sudo/root as i need it to be) This is simply because my Python program needs to read and write from disk. Somebody please help here!!!
[07:28] <apokryphos> !caps | blue|palm
[07:28] <ubotu> blue|palm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:28] <blue|palm> sorry
[07:29] <blue|palm> for shouting
[07:29] <LjL> you may always run the interpreter and thus your program from a shell i suppose
[07:29] <blue|palm> yeah i could, but then debugging is a pain...
[07:29] <Soul^Reaver> Why can I not D/l Cedega cvs? all this crap explaiing it no d/l
[07:30] <surgy> hi
[07:30] <hatta> Soul^Reaver, try this
[07:30] <hatta> http://ting.homeunix.org/cvs_wine/GetWineX.html
[07:31] <blue|palm> ok i managed to fix it by running eclipse as sudo... sorry for shouting again
[07:31] <Soul^Reaver> eerrr I lookin for cedega :P
[07:33] <LjL> !cedega | Soul^Reaver
[07:33] <ubotu> Soul^Reaver: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:35] <surgy> how do i format an ntfs hdd into an ext3 hdd from within KDE?
[07:36] <Soul^Reaver> use partition manager
[07:36] <surgy> soul: which is where?
[07:36] <user-land> Hello, every time my Kubuntu tries to access a file, i get "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream"
[07:37] <timster> How can i set it so it is not required to set a password?
[07:37] <LjL> "it" what?
[07:37] <timster> KDE
[07:37] <Soul^Reaver> surgy in menu
[07:37] <timster> I have accouts set to log in without passwords but it sais you must set one
[07:37] <Soul^Reaver> kde menu system settings
[07:37] <txwikinger> logon manager
[07:38] <surgy> soul reaver ok thnx
[07:38] <kristjan> !ventrilo
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <Soul^Reaver> there 2 tabs click on advanced tab]
[07:38] <LjL> timster: system settings / advanced / login manager / convenience
[07:38] <Alarm> hello. whats the best way to check my filesystem AND check my partition for general errors ? i saw fsck , but dont know what parameters to use actually . or if it would be better to restart and get into recovery mode to do that fsck
[07:38] <timster> Yes, but when i log in it sais I must set a password
[07:39] <LjL> i don't quite know what you're talking about honestly
[07:39] <dreameen> hey folks
[07:39] <dreameen> are there an good napster clients on linux?
[07:39] <timster> When i go log on it sais you must set a new password
[07:39] <timster> the root requires you set a password
[07:40] <LjL> Alarm: never run fsck on a mounted filesystem, except in read-only mode. besides that, fsck checks the filesystem, but i don't know what you mean by "checking the partition"
[07:40] <LjL> timster: error please
[07:40] <Soul^Reaver> wtf root pass diffrent fom my pass? I cant su :(
[07:40] <timster> Let me check again
[07:41] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: no, the root password is not different, it simply isn't there, and no, you can't "su"
[07:41] <Alarm> LjL,  well, when starting kubuntu (while it was showing the loading bar) , it started showing me some fsck correction and on one of them did fail, but finally booted into kubuntu. the point is i dont know where i can find the log file to see what failed or how to fix those errors
[07:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Soul^Reaver about root | Soul^Reaver, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:42] <apokryphos> Soul^Reaver: all in the FAQ :)
[07:42] <LjL> Alarm: /var/log/fsck/
[07:42] <Hail_Spacecake> why in god's name does kubuntu not come with 'make' by default?
[07:42] <Soul^Reaver> Yeah I cannot sudo a ./ command
[07:42] <Hail_Spacecake> and how do I get it without an internet connection?
[07:42] <Soul^Reaver> mine does
[07:43] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Hail_Spacecake about build-essential | Hail_Spacecake, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:43] <Soul^Reaver> ubotu tel ljl STFU :)
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tel ljl STFU :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: i might be mistaken but i believed the necessary packages to be on the CD
[07:43] <Alarm> LjL,  well, i want to make that fsck again to see if everything is now ok. as i saw (from what i noticed actually one of my files that i had was deleted, dont know if others did as well...
[07:43] <Soul^Reaver> wtf??
[07:43] <apokryphos> Soul^Reaver: please watch your language and be polite in this channel.
[07:44] <Hail_Spacecake> what is this?
[07:44] <Hail_Spacecake> "do I really need to compile?"
[07:44] <Soul^Reaver> apok I am being nice
[07:44] <Hail_Spacecake> yes, damnit!
[07:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Alarm about fsck | Alarm, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:44] <LjL> !stfu | Soul^Reaver
[07:44] <ubotu> Soul^Reaver: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel.  LjL  u dont suggest it ?
[07:45] <Soul^Reaver> u wanna say somthing talk on chan
[07:45] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: well, it just doesn't. anyway is it on the CD or not? if it is, as i believed, the problem is non existant
[07:46] <apokryphos> Soul^Reaver: the bot is an asset to the channel, and is a convenient way for storing a lot of the fequently asked questions and their solutions.
[07:46] <Sanne> Hail_Spacecake: "do you need to compile" is for people (there are lots) who think they have to compile everything and who don't know about how to install from the repositories.
[07:46] <apokryphos> Soul^Reaver: so, please deal with it :)
[07:46] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: alright, then let me say something "on chan": you can use the /ignore command if you don't like the bot. mind that very few people will be willing to help you if you do that.
[07:46] <Soul^Reaver> a bot is retarded whrn u try to type & it cuts u off
[07:46] <LjL> well, in some cases one certainly *tries* to type. not sure why it'd cut you off though
[07:47] <capyes_> hola
[07:47] <apokryphos> Soul^Reaver: please do not use that word to denote something bad. I'm not going to warn you about language again...
[07:47] <jthomas> maybe because u'r not using "you" ;)
[07:47] <konki> why would packages automatically be kept back?
[07:47] <surgy> i dont see "partition manager" in system settings
[07:47] <Soul^Reaver> Apok u banned me for not using no langauge & handing it kindly last time, SO take your abuse elsewhere
[07:47] <Soul^Reaver> surgy the blue K
[07:48] <Soul^Reaver> not in a sub menu
[07:48] <Soul^Reaver> just in menu says system settings
[07:48] <apokryphos> no ban, it was a kick
[07:48] <surgy> yea but i dont see "partition manager" in any menus or system settings
[07:48] <kishore> Hi I have fiesty installed in a seperate partition. There kcontrol does not list all modules
[07:49] <Soul^Reaver> its in advanced tab
[07:49] <Soul^Reaver> Apok not hat time
[07:49] <kishore> instead they are found under lost & found menu! any idea why?
[07:49] <apokryphos> Soul^Reaver: yes it was :)
[07:49] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:49] <Soul^Reaver> there are 2 tabs surgey above the panel says normal & advanced
[07:50] <surgy> you mean disks and filesystems?
[07:50] <linopil> !aiglx
[07:50] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[07:50] <harmental> does anybody use Xemacs?
[07:51] <timster> For some reason, i cant log into adept on any settings except the account created with kubuntu
[07:51] <Alzi2> How to make those alerts that appear at the top, be smaller and not-so-gray?
[07:51] <Alarm> !fsck
[07:51] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:52] <timster> !skype
[07:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:53] <soul^reaver> surgy there general & advanced tab
[07:53] <soul^reaver> click on advanced tab
[07:53] <soul^reaver> u will see partition manage there
[07:53] <surgy> yes and im in advanced tab/ disks and filesystem
[07:53] <surgy> ok
[07:53] <soul^reaver> yeah thats it
[07:53] <timster> Can i replace  controll center with kcontrol?
[07:54] <surgy> soul reaver but no partitioning tools in disks and filesystem
[07:54] <LjL> control center *is* kcontrol
[07:54] <timster> can i replaceSystem Settings with Kconrol?
[07:54] <surgy> oh well ill get a third party tool i gues
[07:54] <LjL> timster: yes and no
[07:54] <kishore> timster,  yes you can
[07:54] <LjL> timster: you can't "replace" it, but you can use kcontrol quite fine
[07:55] <timster> Can i put kcontrol on the menu?
[07:55] <LjL> timster: personally i suggest that you right click on the panel, "Add applet", and choose "Settings"
[07:55] <LjL> timster: that will give you a menu with all the kcontrol applets listed
[07:55] <kishore> well asuming you mean the kmenu entry.. yes you can.. :-)
[07:55] <LjL> timster: you most certainly can add it to the menu if you like, just like any other program
[07:55] <LjL> just right click on the K menu and menu editor
[07:55] <sorush20> hi
[07:56] <kishore> in feisty im having a lilproblem with kcontrol
[07:56] <sorush20> I'm making a zip file .. is it possible to select a higher compression level or not ?
[07:56] <sorush20> using ark
[07:56] <kishore> most of the modules are not listed
[07:57] <Hail_Spacecake> what is the name of the package with make I need to be searching for? build-essentials?
[07:57] <timster> My screensave is rubish! I have a gforce graphics card, how come it comes out so badd?
[07:57] <LjL> timster: do you have the proprietary drivers installed?
[07:57] <anosa> how to enable utomatic login?
[07:57] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: build-essential
[07:57] <LjL> it says that on the page though
[07:57] <LjL> !build-essential
[07:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:58] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?
[07:58] <LjL> anosa:  system settings / advanced / login manager / convenience
[07:58] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm not getting a build-essential searching in Adept manager
[07:58] <djwilcox> hi anyone got any tips on partitioning a hard drive
[07:58] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm not sure if it has the CD as a source, though
[07:58] <Hail_Spacecake> although it really should by default
[07:58] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: unsure. the Desktop CD is also kind of unknown to me
[07:58] <ziza> !de
[07:58] <anosa> thanx
[07:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:58] <djwilcox> im trying to do a dual boot mac and kubuntu - whats a swap drive ?
[07:58] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: try with apt-cache anyway, i'm not familiar with adept
[07:59] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: at any rate, if it isn't available at all, do you have some means to transfer (large) files to that computer?
[07:59] <Sanne> Hail_Spacecake: the cd is in the sources list only if you used the alternate cd during install. The live/desktop cd uses a different package format and can't be used as a repository.
[07:59] <timster> AHh Skype works!
[07:59] <Hail_Spacecake> ah, damn
[07:59] <kishore> Hail_Spacecake: also make sure you have performed apt-get update and there we no errors
[07:59] <konki> swap drive is a temporary drive used for when your system runs out of ram
[07:59] <djwilcox> right
[08:00] <Hail_Spacecake> kishore: I did
[08:00] <djwilcox> i have partitioned my hard drive into 5
[08:00] <Hail_Spacecake> it didn't find anything
[08:00] <Hail_Spacecake> probably because I have no internet connection
[08:00] <konki> 5 partitions could be useful.. or could just confuse you on where to save things
[08:00] <djwilcox> 1 mac 2 yaboot 3 kubuntu 4 kubuntu home 5 shared drive
[08:00] <Hail_Spacecake> that's what I need it for, to compile ndiswrapper so I can find one
[08:00] <djwilcox> 3 paritions for kubuntu
[08:01] <djwilcox> 1 yaboot 2 kubuntu root 3 kubuntu home
[08:01] <djwilcox> where do i put the swap ?
[08:01] <konki> you need a partition for your swap
[08:02] <konki> doesn't have to be very big though
[08:02] <djwilcox> right how big ?
[08:02] <konki> 500mb will proally be good
[08:02] <djwilcox> great
[08:02] <kishore> how much ram do you have?
[08:02] <djwilcox> 1.3 ghz
[08:02] <konki> you could make it 256
[08:02] <kishore> keep as much swap or you wont be able to perform a hibernate
[08:02] <konki> good call on the hibernation
[08:02] <djwilcox> hibernate means sleep
[08:03] <konki> yup
[08:03] <djwilcox> or do i have to go and sleep in a cave
[08:03] <kishore> suspend to disk
[08:03] <slyfox> Guys, please help. I think I need to reinstall Kubuntu and NOT update to KDE 3.5.6 Althout that may not be what have casue the problem. None of hte VOIP applicaitons work for me, skype, gizmo, Wengo, none. Skype and Gizmo have choppy sound and wengo phone gives me tiny mickey mouse voice. Help.
[08:03] <djwilcox> thanks for the tips
[08:03] <djwilcox> what about the disk format
[08:03] <djwilcox> doing a dual boot with mac
[08:04] <konki> format is a good idea if you don't have any info to loose
[08:04] <kishore> ext3 works well for linux
[08:04] <djwilcox> says the yaboot needs to be hfs - is that right
[08:04] <djwilcox> is ext3 the disk format for kubuntu
[08:04] <konki> i think that's the format for the home partition
[08:05] <kishore> ext3 is  a supported format as is reiserfs etc
[08:05] <frojnd> is possible to put amule in tray and how if it's ?
[08:05] <djwilcox> ah got 768 of ram
[08:05] <djwilcox> how does that affect the swap drive size
[08:05] <kishore> good so you could give it 1gb ram if there is not much to loose
[08:05] <konki> how much hard drive do you have?
[08:05] <djwilcox> 75 gb
[08:06] <djwilcox> so how big should the swap drive be
[08:06] <djwilcox> 1 gig
[08:06] <konki> 500mb is enuf.. 1g would be better for things like sleep mode.. might just turn into wasted space though
[08:06] <djwilcox> right so 500mb
[08:07] <timster> I have a windows home netwrok with my printer connected, how can I access that?
[08:07] <kishore> yes dont think you would use the space for anything other than suspend to disk..
[08:07] <kishore> do you need that feature? it does not affect Suspend to RAM
[08:07] <timster> !network
[08:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:07] <djwilcox> it comes up during the install
[08:07] <djwilcox> says i need a swap drive
[08:08] <djwilcox> can i ignore that - but will that mean i cant put it to sleep
[08:08] <timster> !printer
[08:08] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:09] <blekos> hi, i have install spamassing from adept manager, but kontact doesnt detect it
[08:09] <kishore> always keep a swap event if you dont use it much of the time
[08:09] <kishore> i find my system more stable inmost occasions with swapenabled
[08:09] <djwilcox> so i create 4 partitions for kubuntu
[08:09] <kishore> although i rarely use it up
[08:09] <djwilcox> yaboot swap kubuntu root + kubuntu home
[08:10] <kishore> sure
[08:10] <slyfox> Does anyone here knows how to work withou sound hardware or reisntall it?
[08:10] <djwilcox> thanks kishore
[08:10] <kishore> welcome
[08:10] <djwilcox> just switched from mac
[08:11] <kishore> big welcome!
[08:11] <sorush20> hi can I use the compression level or not
[08:11] <djwilcox> used to unix so im loving all the geek tools
[08:12] <djwilcox> does kubuntu 6.10 work with airport extreme wireless cards
[08:12] <kishore> no sure about that one
[08:13] <kishore> wireless cards seems to be among the weakent links...
[08:13] <crazy_> bjr !
[08:13] <djwilcox> ive seen a few things about - will have to try
[08:13] <crazy_> hi !
[08:13] <djwilcox> about the broadcom cards
[08:13] <kishore> i guess it uses a broadcom chip.. so you might be able to with some struggle
[08:14] <lgsobalvarro> it's possible change the kubuntu's power manager with kpowersave ?
[08:14] <kishore> lgsobalvarro: it is possibel
[08:15] <exel> #ubuntu-es
[08:15] <kishore> jst instal kpowersave.. although  i would recommend using the latest version. 7.1?
[08:15] <lgsobalvarro> kishore: ok... and it works fine? how i can deactive power manager?
[08:16] <kishore> 7.1 uses HAL for its functionality and yes it seems to work fine
[08:17] <timster> Ok, can i have some help? I have a Printer netwroked to myy windows pc over a wirless network. I can reach my windows documents, but I can get to the printer. How can i do this?
[08:17] <lgsobalvarro> ok tnx kishore
[08:17] <kishore> preventing guidance-powermanager from starting requires editing /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop
[08:18] <lgsobalvarro> kishore: what i change there?
[08:18] <kishore> add the line "X-KDE-autostart-condition=power-managerrc:General:RunOnStart:false"
[08:19] <Alzi2> How to make those alerts that appear at the top, be smaller and not-so-gray?
[08:19] <baronmordock> pardon me, does anyone know how I can get my repositories back? Adept won't show me any. =(
[08:19] <kishore> baron: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <kishore> if its empty you need to repopulate it
[08:20] <christiane> Hello. When I copy text form Konqueror and paste it into OpenOffice all the utf8 chars are displayed as if they were 8bit. How to prevent that?
[08:20] <lgsobalvarro> ok kishore, done. Something else?
[08:20] <baronmordock> okay, I'll try that. do I enter the command in the terminal or in adept?
[08:20] <kishore> That should prevent it from auto starting
[08:20] <kishore> in the terminal
[08:21] <timster> What do i need to do to get flash working?
[08:21] <timster> Whats its name in adept?
[08:21] <kishore> flashplugin
[08:21] <lgsobalvarro> well thanks you kishore
[08:21] <timster> k
[08:21] <slyfox> How do I resintall Kubuntu and kee my /Home  folders that I have created safe? I want to have a clean reisntall of Kubuntu becasue of my sound problem
[08:21] <kishore> and flashplugin-nonfree
[08:21] <slyfox> *and keep
[08:22] <job_> Evening folks
[08:22] <kishore> well back it up and copy t back again! :-)
[08:22] <timster> Is there a linux equiavlent of DarkRoom?
[08:24] <timster> How can i set Konversation to automaticly IDENTIFY
[08:25] <baronmordock> kishore- I tried the command, but it says "permission denied"
[08:25] <kishore> what exactly did you put in the terminal?
[08:26] <kishore> well just read the file with say kate or kwrite
[08:26] <kishore> and check if its populated
[08:26] <slyfox> kishore: back up what? The files I wan to keep to a seperate hard ddrive and reformat /home ?
[08:27] <baronmordock> I tried check /etc/apt/sources.list (which did nothing), then /etc/apt/sources.list, which told me "permission denied"
[08:28] <kishore> ok do you have home in a seperate partition? its then straightforward and yo need to backup
[08:28] <kishore> but forsafety
[08:28] <apokryphos> baronmordock: it's a text file, so of course it's not executable
[08:28] <kishore> in the terminal "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:29] <apokryphos> kishore: no! :)
[08:29] <apokryphos> !kdesu
[08:29] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:30] <timster> ATLANTIK TOURNAMENT
[08:30] <baronmordock> alright, I'll try that
[08:30] <timster> Yay
[08:30] <apokryphos> baronmordock: so: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:30] <timster> On the only populated server. Im deviance
[08:30] <apokryphos> timster: eh?
[08:30] <timster> Everyone play atlantic
[08:30] <apokryphos> timster: #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <timster> :(
[08:30] <timster> ok
[08:31] <frojnd> !rar
[08:31] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:31] <timster> What is nonfree?
[08:31] <kishore> apok: right. its the kde way although sudo works as well :-)
[08:31] <timster> !non-free
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <apokryphos> kishore: no.... see what ubotu said. Using sudo can cause serious problems for you.
[08:32] <apokryphos> !free
[08:32] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[08:32] <baronmordock> didn't mean to start an arguement =P  anywho, Kate pulled something up
[08:33] <baronmordock> the sources list
[08:33] <kishore> well im not sure how it can screwup but yes its still the "right way"
[08:33] <apokryphos> kishore: read what ubotu said -- it can muck around with your permissions and break your DCOP sockets
[08:34] <apokryphos> so please don't advise anyone to use it :)
[08:34] <kishore> ah ok. ill keep that in mind :-)
[08:35] <baronmordock> there's nothing in the sources list
[08:36] <apokryphos> are you sure you typed it right?
[08:36] <apokryphos> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <kishore> ok then there is a website that can generate one for you.. can someone point it out?
[08:37] <apokryphos> !source-o-matic
[08:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:37] <baronmordock> yeah, I typed it in =(
[08:37] <baronmordock> oh, okay, thanks a lot =)
[08:37] <kishore> try http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:37] <lunitik> herd2 didn't work here for desktop or alternative... and same results with daily as of about a week ago
[08:38] <kishore> herd 1 worked for me
[08:38] <kishore> heard 2 failed
[08:38] <kishore> amd64here
[08:40] <kishore> i track things on launchpad and install as i need
[08:40] <kishore> dist-upgrade quite often too
[08:40] <lunitik> I ... hate launchpad....
[08:40] <apokryphos> I don't like malone, but launchpad isn't so bad
[08:41] <lunitik> The interface is ugly, its a pain to file bugs on it... just bad
[08:41] <apokryphos> though it'd be nice if Ubuntu's project manager was open source :/
[08:41] <apokryphos> that's partly malone, stupid bugtracker :P
[08:42] <lunitik> Even trying to keep track of projects, or groups is a mess....
[08:42] <lunitik> No organization at all
[08:46] <atidem> hi
[08:46] <ubuntu> hello hello
[08:47] <jmfrancois> hi, on a fresh kubuntu install firefox menu are broken ... is this a bug ?
[08:48] <ubuntu_> any female's that would like to chat?
[08:48] <galathalion> haha
[08:48] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: I warn you, this is not a date chat.
[08:49] <underdog5004> rofl
[08:49] <underdog5004> girls in the linux channel?
[08:49] <underdog5004> not likely\
[08:50] <ubuntu_> TM_T i Warn i just like to chat its what teens do right?
[08:50] <Tm_T> underdog5004: Myth about human group called "girls" is just soviet propaganda.
[08:50] <notech> there are more than you think, obviously
[08:50] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: Well, this is support channel.
[08:50] <underdog5004> in soviet russia, girls propoganda you!
[08:50] <firecrotch> ubuntu_: #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <ubuntu_> well i am new to this sorry
[08:50] <ubuntu_> i did not know
[08:51] <Tm_T> No prob, that's why I didn't remove you yet. ;)
[08:52] <nuxil> how do i turn off that usb-stick auto mounting stuff.. it anoys me
[08:52] <notech> hmm, usually from what i've seen, a bit of offtopic has been allowed here as long as it didn't interfere with those wanting help. differences in ops maybe
[08:52] <Tm_T> notech: Well, little offtopic is ok but "girls?!" kinda things are red flag.
[08:53] <Tm_T> As I said, this is not a date chat.
[08:53] <notech> Tm_T: ah, i see :)
[08:53] <jmfrancois> http://jm406.free.fr/bug1.jpg
[08:53] <ubuntu_> Tm_T you could but i will come back ip changer & u can not see my surf
[08:53] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: Your point being?
[08:53] <ubuntu_> just to piss you off
[08:53] <Tm_T> Failed.
[08:54] <notech> Ubugtu: you will be found, and jumping bans is a good way to get banned permanently
[08:54] <kishore> ok.. no cookies for you
[08:54] <notech> grr
[08:54] <notech> tab complation got me. sorry Ubugtu
[08:54] <Tm_T> notech: Aye, also might find axe from the door.
[08:54] <ubuntu_> try?
[08:55] <nuxil> hey.. can you guys help instead of talking bull ?
[08:55] <kishore> nuxil: are you refering to the popup dialog?
[08:55] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:55] <jmfrancois> same
[08:55] <hatta> popup dialog? he said this wasn't a date chat!
[08:55] <Bxnp-away> what is your problem nuxil
[08:55] <Tm_T> nuxil: Automount? Hmm, IIRC systemsettings has something related to it.
[08:55] <Tm_T> hatta: !
[08:55] <jmfrancois> got a graphic bug into firefox : http://jm406.free.fr/bug1.jpg
[08:55] <nuxil> kishore, well.. when ever i plug in my usb stic it kida auto mounts,., even tho i put do nothing and remember in that dialog
[08:56] <kishore> the next time its mounted, right click on it
[08:56] <kishore> select mounting options and check if automount is ticked
[08:56] <blekos> hi, i try to install avg, i follow a guide where it says i have to type rpm bla bla bla, but i get the message
[08:56] <nuxil> ok,, i'll try
[08:56] <blekos> rpm command not found any ideas?
[08:57] <eihnat> rpm > redhat package management.
[08:57] <atidem> blekos: rpm on a debian-based distro?
[08:57] <blekos> i know,
[08:57] <kishore> this is debian based distrouse debs! rpm does work however
[08:57] <notech> blekos: kubuntu iis not a rpm based distro, it uses .deb's
[08:57] <kishore> sudo apt-get install rpm
[08:58] <notech> really, didn't know it would do rpm's
[08:58] <blekos> i know that but hava a look here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-avg-antivirus-in-ubuntu-desktop.html
[08:58] <timster> Whats the point in antivirus on linux?
[08:58] <kishore> im curious..
[08:59] <notech> timster: useful if running a mail server, but not sure that's what that is for
[08:59] <Tm_T> timster: To kill Windows viruses, and oh, there _is_ "virus" for linux too.
[08:59] <firecrotch> timster: Basically to catch Windows viruses so taht you don't spread them
[09:00] <timster> Tm_T, there are linux viruses?
[09:00] <ubuntu_> how to i join other chats
[09:00] <ubuntu_> please
[09:00] <timster>  /join #server
[09:00] <ubuntu_> thanks
[09:00] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: /j #channel
[09:00] <linopil> where can I easily troubleshoot sound on new onboard coreduo sound
[09:00] <kishore> what kinda chat are you talkin about?
[09:00] <Tm_T> timster: You don't join to servers really. ;)
[09:00] <blekos> think i got it  i did a apt-get install rpm
[09:01] <notech> blekos: that's what kishore suggested :)
[09:01] <linopil> ubuntu_ start with /nick some -good-name
[09:01] <eihnat> blekos: try to follow that guide now. ;)
[09:01] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: Anyway, use mighty google to search some basic irc-guide, also may found in help.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <blekos> yeap thnx ;)
[09:01] <kishore> the site suggests using alien to convert rpm to deb
[09:02] <Tm_T> !alien
[09:02] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:02] <eihnat> blekos: ever considered to try clamav?
[09:03] <blekos> i've installed it, but dont know how to update its virus base :))
[09:03] <blekos> i am a newbie
[09:03] <kishore> im not very comfortable using rpm and alien.. try an alternative id say.. :-)
[09:03] <blekos> and when i run it, i get a message like this is an old version
[09:03] <linopil> why is an antivirus important for linux ?
[09:04] <nuxil> WHAT?
[09:04] <blekos> well aegis is not supported by kontact :(
[09:04] <blekos> av is important if the 98%  of ppl u r dealing with r using windoz