[00:00] <gassho> synaptic package manager fails to reinstall broken package
[00:20] <Rob__> hhmmm.. dns craaazyness
[00:20] <Rob__> so...dig works but pings all show <IP_ADDRESS> for every hostname i try.
[00:20] <Rob__> but dig shows the correct address...
[00:21] <Rob__> nslookup shows the wrong answer however
[00:21] <pbx> curious
[00:21] <pbx> Rob__, what are your nameservers?  does using google dns fix/change things?
[00:22] <Rob__> pbx, i am trying to use google
[00:22] <Rob__> something evil is afoot!
[00:22] <Ben64> run wireshark and find out whats going on
[00:22] <Rob__> nslookup is showing its coming from <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:22] <Ben64> probably a bad dns server you're using
[00:22] <Rob__> normally i'd already have done that but i cant download it ;)
[00:22] <Rob__> i'm trying to use <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:23] <Rob__> so basically two places to finger, wifi router or wifi bridge
[00:23] <Ben64> put ubuntu repos into /etc/hosts for now, get wireshark
[00:23] <blue403> Jordan_U: so being in the foreground means that stdin is directed to that process.. while being in the background means that stdin won't reach that program? And that's about it?
[00:23] <Rob__> Ben64, can't resolv em ;)
[00:23] <pbx> Rob__, you could try opendns. http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[00:23] <Rob__> <IP_ADDRESS> is google's its good
[00:23] <Ben64> Rob__: why not
[00:24] <pbx> Rob__, except your results do not seem to be good.
[00:24] <Rob__> so im wondering if this wifi bridge is going craaazy
[00:24] <Ben64> get wireshark and find out
[00:24] <Rob__> yeah im gonna hop on the router and tcpdump it and watch
[00:25] <Rob__> aha it is
[00:27] <Rob__> hrmm lets see if its fixed by the fw update
[00:28] <Rob__> what business does it have proxying dhcp!
[00:28] <Rob__> err dns
[00:31] <Rob__> yeah fw update fixed it
[00:31] <Rob__> so how do you ship a wireless bridge with firmware broken that bad
[00:33] <Rob__> so yeah gonna blast some acid rock and scream into a pillow for an hour
[00:33] <Rob__> that should about put things right
[00:35] <LeEarl> l8r
[00:35] <xAndreLopesx> what is the correct way to execute a .exe through ssh?
[00:35] <xAndreLopesx> ./a.exe ?
[00:36] <aeon-ltd> an exe wouldn't run on ubuntu normally
[00:38] <xAndreLopesx> yes you are right
[00:39] <xAndreLopesx> im checking on opencv chat 1 sec :)
[00:39] <xAndreLopesx> whats the extension for the ex file on ubuntu ?
[00:39] <xAndreLopesx> .so ?
[00:39] <Ben64> there isn't an extension
[00:39] <Ben64> linux in general doesn't care much about extensions
[00:40] <xAndreLopesx> yeah i downloaded opencv for linux and it doesnt contain the builds i need :(
[00:40] <aeon-ltd> let's just go back a bit, what are you trying to achieve?
[00:41]  * canne waves
[00:42] <xAndreLopesx> run opencv_traincascade.exe on it
[00:42] <xAndreLopesx> the guy on opencv sent me this :
[00:42] <xAndreLopesx> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libopencv-dev
[00:42] <xAndreLopesx> but i cant install packages on it
[00:42] <xAndreLopesx> im just an user :(
[00:42] <Ben64> no, explain what you're actually trying to do
[00:43] <xAndreLopesx> execute a file.
[00:43] <xAndreLopesx> Machine Learning.
[00:43] <ironhoof> Wel I tried to purge everything AMD/ATI but reinstalling puts in the updated driver back it seems. I wonder if I have to reinstall my whole system to get the old driver back, it maybe a repository update this is the update I got today. I would  love to undo the driver update: http://pastebin.com/MqPwzjLJ It was working fantastic before this.
[00:44] <Ben64> think broader. you're not trying to execute the file, you have a larger goal in mind
[00:44] <xAndreLopesx> Right now i have to go to ubuntu and try to compile that into linux
[00:44] <xAndreLopesx> transfer again
[00:44] <xAndreLopesx> and then execute through SSH
[00:45] <deadmund> ironhoof: You can use /etc/modprobe/blacklist to keep certain drivers from being used
[00:45] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: which will accomplish.... what
[00:45] <ironhoof> I never done a blacklist driver, or even sure what to put in there.
[00:45] <xAndreLopesx> so ican execute a file on the linux server
[00:45] <canne> hi all ;) please correct me by pm if i am in the wrong place... choosing tween l/ubuntu-desktop and server for a (very)small office file server... duh
[00:46] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: so your goal is to execute a file, and thats it? then turn off the computer and walk away?
[00:46] <canne> lu/xubuntu rather
[00:46] <xAndreLopesx> yes
[00:46] <xAndreLopesx> kinda.
[00:46] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: its not, you need to explain!
[00:46] <Gateway_> So I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and the computer decided to log out after being inactive for like 5 minutes. After I entered my password, the terminal was gone. I tried to run apt-get again and it's already running. I ran 'Top' and it's no longer showing up.
[00:46] <xAndreLopesx> i mean i will turn off MY computer
[00:46] <xAndreLopesx> and leave the program running on the server
[00:46] <xAndreLopesx> its not linux-compatible
[00:47] <xAndreLopesx> at least my version isnt.
[00:47] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: then you can't run it on linux.
[00:47] <dopeelf_> Hey all! I have a crontab entry that I believe should execute every Sunday except if it's the first of the month at 5 minutes past midnight but it looks like it executed anyway.
[00:47] <xAndreLopesx> yes i can , there is a linux compatible version
[00:47] <xAndreLopesx> just gotta compile it
[00:47] <dopeelf_> 5    0    2-31    *    0
[00:47] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: until you explain yourself, nobody can help you. good luck
[00:47] <xAndreLopesx> what you mean explain myself
[00:47] <Ben64> you really didn't
[00:48] <xAndreLopesx> im preety sure i did
[00:48] <xAndreLopesx> Do you know what opencv is ?
[00:48] <Ben64> what do you want to run
[00:48] <ironhoof> deadmund: And if you do blacklist it does it install alternative version?
[00:48] <hly> Hello, at present trying to install a buntu on a Macbook. But I am getting an error message saying that the boot loader cannot be installed at the are indicated... any ideas??
[00:48] <xAndreLopesx> i want to run opencv_traincascade,exe
[00:49] <Ben64> you can't exe is windows only
[00:49] <brainwash> !wine
[00:49] <bazhang> !find opencv
[00:49] <xAndreLopesx> there is a linux version for it.
[00:49] <canne> hey hly :) can you expand on "at the are indicated"
[00:49] <xAndreLopesx> But i cant install packages since im not admin
[00:49] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: then its not an exe!
[00:49] <xAndreLopesx> mine is .exe because im on windows
[00:50] <xAndreLopesx> but there is a . something else for linux
[00:50] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: ok, but when i just asked you what you want to run, you said .exe, and you can't. you NEED TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF BETTER
[00:50] <xAndreLopesx> ok im sorry god
[00:50] <brainwash> !details
[00:51] <xAndreLopesx> is there a command to find if those packages that ubottu described are installed ?
[00:51] <Ben64> dpkg -l | grep <package>
[00:52] <xAndreLopesx> will tryt his :
[00:52] <xAndreLopesx> dpkg -l | grep <libopencv-dev>
[00:52] <xAndreLopesx> it said : -bash file or dit not installed
[00:52] <hly> canne: Sure. It's in French, so I was giving a translation, albeit rough : It is really just once sentence '...at the are indicated...How do you wish to proceed *choose a different "périphique" on which to install the boot loader"' or * continuer without bootloader or *cancel installation."" I am trying to install the system on my HDD.
[00:53] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: don't use the <> in the command
[00:53] <xAndreLopesx> yeah now it didnt print anything
[00:53] <xAndreLopesx> means its installed?
[00:53] <canne> oh, ok hly i follow...
[00:53] <Ben64> xAndreLopesx: means it isn't
[00:53] <canne> is it the only OS on your pc, hd hly ?
[00:55] <hly> canne: Not at present ; I am trying to wipe the prexisting one : xubuntu 14.04 (replacing with lubuntu 14.04.2).
[00:55] <xAndreLopesx> Ben64 thanks it seem opencv packages are installed. i typed opencv instead and it showed them all
[00:55] <xAndreLopesx> Ben64 just gotta figure to execute the script/.bat that i want now
[00:56] <canne> then, if replacing an existing OS then let it rip (imo) even if it screws things up there is a fairly easy fix (again imho)
[00:57] <hly> canne: .... so I should just continue without boot loader ?? how will it boot then ?
[00:59] <xAndreLopesx> thanks guys
[01:01] <hly> canne: If I just select continue without boot loader, then it says I must install one manually...
[01:01] <canne> sorry hly, was away... should have given more details
[01:01] <hly> canne: No problem.
[01:02] <canne> actually in reflection, was bad advice... i keep a live usb at hand that fix's them things np
[01:02] <canne> sowwy again hly
[01:02] <canne> called "bootrepair cd"
[01:03] <canne> i cant edit/fix grub2 to save my life :(\
[01:04] <novadude> Which version of ubuntu should I install?
[01:05] <hly> canne: Hmmm. Unfortunately, the optical drive is broken.... and being a Mac, it won't accept the vast majority of bootable usbs... So maybe... I mean, why wouldn't it be able to install on the HDD??
[01:05] <canne> major point (if you are even still with us/me) mly :( is if it is going to be the only OS, let it write grub wherever it wants! no?
[01:06] <canne> i can relate to that hly... have several older box's here trying to make servers from (x86 XP era) that have the same issue with many "modern" Linux distros :(
[01:06] <dopeelf_> hly: I think that refit / refind may be able to help you with booting of a usb stick.
[01:06] <hly> canne: I tried to let it do what it wanted.... I just booted the usb and then went throught he 'install Lubuntu' icon and steps.... Do
[01:07] <novadude> Is there any reason to not install the latest version as opposed to earlier?
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> novadude: if you like LTS
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> !lts | novadude, other than that, can't think of any
[01:08] <Bashing-om> !LTS
[01:08] <hly> dopeelf_: Even for Macs ? I am only able to boot close relatves of Ubunutu my using an efi boot file and boot the iso under /efi/boot/boot.iso.... but if that might work...
[01:08] <canne> full disclosure hly ... no exp with efi k
[01:09] <novadude> Alright thanks! Also, are there any versions that are easier to dual boot than others?
[01:09] <dopeelf_> hly: refit I believe was originally developed for mac.
[01:10] <SchrodingersScat> novadude: as far as I know, that experience is the same across most versions and !flavors
[01:11] <dopeelf_> hly: It might be easier to do a "bios" install and then bless that as a legacy device (more or less Windows startup).
[01:11] <novadude> Alright thanks, Scat. I know you're not dead! No matter what people may or may not say!
[01:11] <canne> sounds like you found a Mac guru hly :)
[01:12] <SchrodingersScat> novadude: welcome, and I don't care so long as they take me out of the box eventually.
[01:12] <hly> canne: no worries. I don't think that booting is the issue, I mean using the efi boot file lubuntu boots wonderfully in live usb. But the problems commence into the installation
[01:12] <hly> dopeelf_:  Hmmm. bios install, never heard of it for Macs... any good links ?
[01:12] <canne> over my head hly (uefi crap) sowwy
[01:13] <hly> canne: I don't think this is uefi yet. It's a 2007 macbook.
[01:13] <dopeelf_> hly: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/bless.8.html
[01:13] <canne> seem's a bit old i agree
[01:14] <dopeelf_> Macs have used EFI since they switched to intel.
[01:14] <canne> wow, i was still using dabber duck (or what ever ubuntu 6.06 was then LOL)
[01:15] <canne> thanks for that dopeelf_ :)
[01:15] <hly> dopeelf_: Unfortunatly I have no OSX on it. Just a broken xubuntu.
[01:15] <ablest1980> hello
[01:15] <canne> you broke xubuntu lol !
[01:16] <hly> dopeelf_: Okay, thanks, i see. Bless is a linux application.
[01:16] <dopeelf_> hly: Maybe try http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[01:17] <hly> dopeelf_: Thanks for the links. I mean, at this point the issue appears to be, not booting, but installation. I can boot. But not get through the install process.
[01:17] <canne> anyhow hly... imho, please create a "bootrepair-cd" flash or cd, it is essential to experimenting!
[01:17] <Galidari> Hey I'm trying this out on my new Ubuntu Mate installation. How is everybody?
[01:18] <hly> canne: Yeah. I broke xubuntu when I tried to dd zero the hdd....
[01:18] <dopeelf_> hly: Oh, I see. I thought you had a install without a bootloader.
[01:19] <canne> ok hly... (i dd images a lot, what did you mean "zero") ?
[01:19] <hly> dopeelf_: Well, I could do that... I mean that is one of the error options. And then I could add it after? Why might it be unable to be added now?
[01:19] <hly> canne: Wiping the hdd with zeros.
[01:20] <Brayden5234> I want to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive, how should I format it? Like Fat32? Or NTFS?
[01:20] <canne> i am a confident chickenshit hly ( i often test distros and tell the installer to skip the bootloader) stupid Because i trust the bootfix utility :(
[01:21] <ZenPowerBuilder> Hello
[01:21] <Brayden5234> Anyone have an idea?
[01:21] <canne> sorry hly, "bootrepair"
[01:21] <hly> canne: So I could just do the install and then add the boot loader after??
[01:21] <awktion> Brayden5234: the hdd will format a s apart of the process
[01:22] <canne> not sure about Mac HW hly! !
[01:22] <awktion> Brayden5234: typically ext4 over LVM
[01:22] <Brayden5234> No it doesn't, it says no root file system
[01:22] <awktion> Brayden5234: is there data on it?
[01:22] <awktion> Brayden5234: do you need to save that data?
[01:22] <Brayden5234> Ok so ext4 but what is LVM?
[01:22] <Brayden5234> No no data. I already formatted it to NTFS]
[01:22] <awktion> we'll get there, lets do logicstics first
[01:22] <awktion> ah ok
[01:23] <awktion> if you don't want to affect the first hdd only install grub to that external; and if the disk shows, then you should be able to choose it during the install process
[01:23] <awktion> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[01:24] <Brayden5234> Alright
[01:24] <awktion> you would select 'erase disk and install ubuntu' then continue and it should show you both disks
[01:24] <awktion> or so, not used usb drive @ same time in a while
[01:25] <Brayden5234> Alright, how do I install grub to the external hard drive?
[01:25] <OerHeks> Brayden5234, you know you need a gpt partition table to install on that 3 tb drive?
[01:25] <awktion> I would double check hdd sizes and models so you can tell which is which easily and not erase your data Brayden5234
[01:25] <awktion> at the end of the install process it will ask if you want to install grub to mbr
[01:25] <OerHeks> and ubuntu will not work on ntfs/fat32, it needs ext3/4
[01:25] <awktion> you will need to go to advanced, and select sdb instead of sda - or whatever the second disk is called
[01:26] <awktion> then when you want to boot to it you will need to hold down the key for boot options and boot frmo usb
[01:26] <Brayden5234> Alright so format my 3tb hard drive as ext4 then choose SDB and click install?
[01:27] <canne> how do you mean OerHeks... and ubuntu will not work on ntfs/fat32, "
[01:27] <awktion> sdb is a guess Brayden5234 but yeah something like that
[01:27] <OerHeks> canne, it will not install on those.
[01:27] <awktion> OerHeks: is correct
[01:27] <awktion> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55441/install-ubuntu-on-a-ntfs-partition
[01:27] <awktion> ok i'm outtie, laters
[01:28] <OerHeks> Brayden5234, you might still get issues with usb3.
[01:28] <Rave1> Brayden5234,   why not play safe and unplug all other HDDs
[01:28] <Brayden5234> Haha I only have the one
[01:28] <canne> sorry, never tried to install on them :(
[01:28] <Brayden5234> I am running try ubuntu off of a USB stick and trying to install ubuntu from the stick to the external hard drive
[01:29] <canne> it (ubuntu in general) is ok with windoze fs's
[01:29] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Do you plan to use this drive with multiple computers?  You only answered one.
[01:29] <Brayden5234> Yeah the PC's have their own HDD
[01:29] <Brayden5234> They have internal drives
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Buffy: Please watch your language.
[01:30] <Brayden5234> I just want to boot from USB which would be the external drive that has Ubuntu installed.
[01:30] <Brayden5234> My problem is I do not know how to do this.
[01:30] <Brayden5234> There is like no information or guides online about it.
[01:30] <Rave1> Brayden5234,   so disconnect any internal HDDs  during install   avoid issues
[01:31] <Brayden5234> Well one is a desktop, I am doing this on a laptop.
[01:31] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: You still haven't answered my second question. Would you like me to repeat it?
[01:31] <Brayden5234> Oh sorry I do not know what that is?
[01:31] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U
[01:32] <Brayden5234> What is UEFI?
[01:32] <thiebaude> !uefi
[01:33] <canne> that was most gracious ubottu ... i could never be that nice (uefi) duh :)
[01:33] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: UEFI and BIOS are two interfaces that boot firmware can use to boot an operating system. BIOS is the older interface, UEFI is the newer one. With UEFI you need to do an extra step to make sure that the drive is bootable from any machine.
[01:34] <Brayden5234> Alright then yeah can you help me do that?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: You can also have the same drive be bootable via BIOS based machines and UEFI based machines, but that's another added step.
[01:34] <Brayden5234> Well I have BIOS on my laptop and desktop
[01:34] <thiebaude> i hope so
[01:35] <Brayden5234> But my laptop was made in 2013... Why does it have BIOS?
[01:35] <thiebaude> !bios
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: OK, then you don't need to do anything special.
[01:36] <Brayden5234> Alright, can I just get a step by step on how to install ubuntu on my external 3tb hard drive?
[01:36] <Brayden5234> I have been struggling with this all day.
[01:36] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: What problems have you been having specifically?
[01:37] <awktion> Brayden5234: just unplug the internal drive
[01:37] <Brayden5234> Well I really do not know how to get ubuntu to install on the hard drive. Everytime I try it gives me some error like no root premission
[01:37] <awktion> then you only have one target to worry about
[01:37] <awktion> just unplug the sata port while powered down if possible
[01:37] <awktion> try this:
[01:37] <awktion> 1. boot to ubuntu live cd
[01:37] <awktion> 2. install/open gparted
[01:38] <awktion> 3. gparted the external drive and format to ext4
[01:38] <awktion> 4. close all windows and do the install
[01:38] <OerHeks> awktion, wrong, the drive is 3 tb, so it needs gpt.
[01:38] <Ben64> awktion: can you not make new lines for everything
[01:38] <awktion> it just needs a PARTITION smaller than 2TB OerHeks
[01:39] <awktion> Ben64: i can and will type as i think and speak
[01:39] <awktion> And if you feel like pitching in and taking up some slack then i won't have to type as much will i
[01:39] <OerHeks> Brayden5234, your ext hdd is USB3, plug it in an USB 2 port, and the drive is bigger than 2 Tb, so you need gpt.
[01:39] <Ben64> just cut down on the amount of lines you're putting here.
[01:39] <awktion> not that i GAF, gl Brayden5234 hopefully these guys don't format your laptop
[01:39] <ironhoof> Really wish i could have my last AMD/ATI driver back... this one has a bug.
[01:40] <Brayden5234> Haha I am trying to follow along guys
[01:40] <Jordan_U> awktion: With an msdos label you are limited to 2 TiB total. If you don't use GPT there is no way to use all 3 TiB. That said, the drive should already be using GPT, and GParted should handle that fine.
[01:40] <Ben64> Brayden5234: 1. unplug all other drives 2. boot ubuntu from dvd/usb 3. follow the steps to install ubuntu 4. done
[01:41] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Please post exact error messages, taking screenshots if possible. If you choose "Try before installing" then you can run other programs (like gnome-screenshot and firefox) while running the installer.
[01:41] <Brayden5234> That is what I am on jordan haha
[01:41] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: OK, then please post a screenshot of the exact error message that you're seeing.
[01:41] <Brayden5234> Do I have to unmount to format external drive?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Brayden5234
[01:42] <Ben64> Brayden5234: yep
[01:42] <Brayden5234> Alright
[01:42] <Brayden5234> Alright so I should format to ext4, I am about to do that
[01:43] <awktion> Jordan_U: it's not the size of the disk, it's the size of the partition
[01:43] <Brayden5234> or gtf one
[01:43] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: I can try and help. What card are we working with ? show ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit ' .
[01:43] <Brayden5234> The partition will be 2.7tb
[01:43] <Ben64> Brayden5234: as long as theres nothing on the drive you care about
[01:43] <Brayden5234> There is nothing on the drive. Its empty
[01:44] <awktion> !gpt
[01:45] <Rave1> 2.7 tb / partition   ??
[01:45] <canne> wow, no one into chat ? duh...
[01:45] <Brayden5234> Yeah
[01:45] <Rave1> ah  NO
[01:45] <Brayden5234> There is no gpt option
[01:46] <Rave1> but  you have too many helpers already
[01:46] <canne> yeah Rave1 ~ no shit
[01:46] <canne> shame :(
[01:46] <Brayden5234> Should I make is a 1.5tb partition that format it ext4?
[01:46] <Ben64> Brayden5234: use the whole disk if thats what you want, 2.7tb works
[01:47] <Brayden5234> Alright what format for the 2.7tb?
[01:47] <Ben64> still ext4
[01:47] <canne> always use the "whole disk" ROFL
[01:47] <canne> LOL
[01:47] <Brayden5234> Haha
[01:47] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: One second looking
[01:47] <awktion> select use whole disk, multiple partitions not all in one
[01:47] <awktion> canne: no not always
[01:47] <Rave1> it works as stated   just a waste of space   but you will learn
[01:47] <canne> ALWAYS!
[01:47] <awktion> canne: when one does things intelligently one only needs to redo / and maybe /usr
[01:47] <canne> LOL
[01:48] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: K, you may have to install the pastebinit tool .
[01:48] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Here we go http://pastebin.com/idJvLxm7
[01:48] <Brayden5234> Alright I formatted the whole external hard drive to ext4... Now what?
[01:48] <Jordan_U> awktion: Patently incorrect "In conjunction with the near-universal sector size of 512 bytes, the 32-bit LBA pointers used by MBR partitions impose a 2 TiB limit on disk and partition size." http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/whatsgpt.html
[01:48] <mrkirby153> How can I install phpmyadmin 4.x on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server?
[01:48] <canne> awktion (i am not dealing well with this client) :(
[01:48] <Brayden5234> Just open install ubuntu and choose something else
[01:49] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/idJvLxm7 .
[01:49] <Ben64> Brayden5234: any reason you didn't just hit "use whole disk" or whatever its called? do you actually need a custom partition setup?
[01:50] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: The driver they had prior to this worked great, this one doesnt show hardware skinned meshes in older programs.
[01:50] <Brayden5234> No I cannot do that, as I am doing this on a laptop and cannot unplug the internal hard drive
[01:50] <ironhoof> It was updated this morning
[01:50] <canne> somebody watch my 6 got to piss :(
[01:50] <Ben64> Brayden5234: you can actually unplug the internal one, and it would make this a lot easier
[01:50] <reisio> k then...
[01:50] <Brayden5234> Haha Ben64 it is a laptop I cannot
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: You probably also want a swap partition.
[01:51] <Ben64> Brayden5234: you really can
[01:51] <Ben64> its usually 1-3 screws
[01:52] <Craigwell> so nickserv doesn't send email verifications anymore ?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: OK; the method for removing the driver depends on how you installed it.
[01:52] <Craigwell> how exactly do i register a nick now
[01:53] <ironhoof> It was done via automatic updates, i ment to install it without automatic
[01:53] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Did you install it from the repo; by downloading from ATI and creating a .deb; or by running the .run file from ATI directly?
[01:53] <Ben64> Craigwell: ask #freenode , but /msg nickserv help register
[01:53] <Craigwell> thanks ben
[01:54] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Be sure to set the mountpoint of the ext4 partition to '/' to indicate that you want to use it as your root partition.
[01:54] <ironhoof> It was done from the automatic driver initially. I usually click fglrx, not (updates one.) It was my mistake when the update came I thoguht id try it out since it popped up im regretting that.
[01:55] <Rave1> Brayden5234,   so do it with the desktop,, or be prepared for a whole bunch more issues
[01:55] <Brayden5234> Haha let me try it on the laptop this last try to see if it works. If not I will use the desktop.
[01:56] <Ben64> you'll need a bios_grub partition too, and make sure to install grub on the proper drive, since you don't want to unplug your drive
[01:57] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Sorry I need to remember to put who im talking to*
[01:57] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Have you seen an error similar " Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: " ??
[01:57] <jjb23> I'm having issues with "Kernal mode setting." Everything was working fine for me until I did an update. Now, I can no longer boot unless I add the "nomodeset" option at the end of my boot command. Any ideas where to start looking to diagnose the problem?
[01:58] <Brayden5234> Rave1 what issues?
[01:58] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: No but when it did install it popped up a window asking if id like to replace a configuration file, it said usualy safe to replace. It asked for password I clicked replace nothing... and nothing i had to reboot do a dkpg to force the the update to finish.
[01:58] <Ben64> jjb23: what video card, what ubuntu, what video drivers...
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: As Ben64 said you will also need a BIOS BOot Partition. To create one, open GParted again and create a 1 MiB partition at the start of the drive with no filesystem then add the "bios_grub" flag to it.
[02:00] <Brayden5234> Alright
[02:01] <jjb23> Ben64: lspci -v | grep VGA
[02:01] <jjb23> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[02:01] <Ben64> jjb23: ah, well i'm not an ati/amd guy, maybe someone else here knows
[02:02] <jjb23> Ben64: I'm actually facing this problem on arch linux. I asked there too, but I was just curoius if anyone knew where to debug general stuff.
[02:02] <Brayden5234> How do I create another partition on the hard drive?
[02:02] <jjb23> Ben64: no problem. thanks anyway
[02:02] <Ben64> jjb23: then please don't use this channel for non ubuntu issues
[02:02] <jjb23> Ben64: noted
[02:03] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U how do I create another partition?
[02:03] <Brayden5234> Resize?
[02:04] <BobTheSkull> Looks like ircd-irc2 is the default for Ubuntu.  Is UnrealIRCd worth checking out?
[02:04] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Let's trty this: ' sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle , sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic , sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle , sudo amdconfig --initial ; sudo shutdown -r now .
[02:04] <Brayden5234> Resize to one MB?
[02:04] <Ben64> Brayden5234: yeah you have to free up some room for another one, bios_grub should be at the beginning, only needs 1MB or so, and you might want a swap, that can be at the end, depends on how much memory you have and if you want hibernation
[02:04] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Okay give me a minute to put that all in. See what happens.
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Since you don't have anything in your existing ext4 partition, I would just delete it.
[02:06] <Brayden5234> Alright deleted the partition and it says unallocated now what?
[02:06] <Brayden5234> It also has a partition on the drive for 128mib saying its for microsoft windows
[02:07] <Ben64> create partition, 1MB. create partition, rest of drive except for... 8GB at the end? format ext4, create partition 8GB end for swap
[02:07] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Rebooting and checking brb
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Then you can either create 3 partitions 1: bios_grub (1 MiB) 2: ext4 (everything left but 2 GiB) 3: swap (2 MiB), or you can prepare for eventually switching to UEFI and make 4 partitions: 1: bios_grub (1 MiB) 2: EFI System Partition (fat32, 10 MiB) 3: ext4 (everything but 2 Mib) 4: Swap (2 MiB)
[02:08] <Craigwell> man oh man
[02:08] <Ben64> Jordan_U: 2MB swap? :S
[02:08] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/NQw85Bk.png
[02:08] <Brayden5234> This is what I have... Now what?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Sorry, 2 GiB swap :)
[02:09] <Craigwell> took several days, several cloning attempts, just to discover wincrap 7 needs registry mods BEFORE cloning in order to boot afterwards. Wow.
[02:09] <Craigwell> For the longest time I thought I was using clonezilla wrong.
[02:09] <Craigwell> long live ubuntu
[02:10] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Back checking..
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: I would just remove sdc1 as well.
[02:11] <Brayden5234> Alright done
[02:11] <Brayden5234> So now I should create the first partition and it should be what size?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: 1 MiB
[02:12] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Nope didn't change anything same version same problem.
[02:12] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/0Cc4TpJ.png
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: 1: bios_grub (1 MiB) 2: EFI System Partition (fat32, 100 MiB) 3: ext4 (everything remaining but 2 GiB) 4: Swap (The remaining 2 GiB)
[02:12] <Brayden5234> I do not know how to use the menu it is showing me in the screen shot
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: I think you linked to the same screenshot twice.
[02:13] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/boxTnvk.png
[02:14] <Brayden5234> I did my bad. I didn't even realize it haha.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Humm .. Beats me. Back where you were 2 hours ago. See what changing the driver in "Additional Drivers" will do ??
[02:15] <ironhoof> Yea, it looks like they replaced the default one maybe in the repos, i wonder if previous repos are available.
[02:15] <Ben64> Brayden5234: change "free space following" to 2048
[02:15] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Nother thought ! What release is this ? Might see what ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' tells us .
[02:16] <Brayden5234> Anything else?
[02:16] <Brayden5234> Look at the screen shot, I do not want to mess anything up haha
[02:16] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Fetching i installed 14.04 originally (this gives back only fglrx, fglrx-updates)
[02:16] <Ben64> Brayden5234: yep i looked
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Why 2048? That would leave most of the drive used by this first partition.
[02:17] <Garv> Hey room! I'm having an issue trying to upgrade from 12.04.5 to ANY newer version. Nothing shows up with update-manager, and my release-upgrades prompt is set to normal
[02:17] <Brayden5234> So just change that and hit add? Any label
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Ben64: Why 2048? That would leave most of the drive used by this first partition.
[02:17] <Ben64> oh wait i thought you already had a bios_grub
[02:18] <Mabus_> hi mans
[02:18] <Brayden5234> I do not have anything but unallocated
[02:18] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: 14.04.2 LTS i don't know what the .2 is about i avoided that for just 14.04
[02:18] <Mabus_> i have big problem T_T
[02:18] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Welp, I guess you surmise that the version is the repo is changed. I know of no way to get an older version driver .
[02:18] <Jordan_U> Ben64: He doesn't. I think he should also create an EFI System Partition, just because it's cheap and easy to add now, much harder to add later.
[02:18] <Ben64> Jordan_U: ah ok
[02:18] <Brayden5234> Alright just tell me what to do haha
 Brayden5234: 1: bios_grub (1 MiB) 2: EFI System Partition (fat32, 100 MiB) 3: ext4 (everything remaining but 2 GiB) 4: Swap (The remaining 2 GiB)
[02:19] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: the .2 is the point release . Will get it when the system is updated sutomagically .
[02:19] <Mabus_> i dont know what do T_T
[02:19] <Brayden5234> bios_grub is that the label?
[02:19] <Jordan_U> Ben64: I'll let you lead, I'm doing 5 other things at the moment anyway :)
[02:19] <Ben64> its a flag, you can set it after
[02:20] <Mabus_> i try few distributives but nothign work
[02:20] <Ben64> Jordan_U: i have to probably go soon though : /
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Ben64: OK, I can lead then.
[02:20] <Brayden5234> How do I make a partition 1mib? Where do I type that in?
[02:20] <ironhoof> Bashing-om is there a way to tell what version was in the previous repos?
[02:20] <Mabus_> someone can help me? T_T
[02:20] <ironhoof> I don't mind manually getting reinstalling it.
[02:21] <Ben64> Mabus_: nobody can help you until you explain the problem
[02:21] <Mabus_> i cant login in ubuntu
[02:21] <Mabus_> it crah
[02:21] <Mabus_> crash
[02:21] <Mabus_> message about internal error
[02:21] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Space proceeding: "0", New size "1" (the space following should automatically correctly update).
[02:21] <Mabus_> and it all
[02:22] <Garv> Anyone?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: The repo has not changed, just what versions the repo now supports. As to what was in the repo, again I do not know of a means to find out .
[02:22] <Brayden5234> Okay I did that, now primary partition and ext4? Any label?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Create as "Primary Partition" (not that that actually means anything with GPT :), Filesystem: "None" (or blank, I don't remember the exact term used), Label: Leave it blank.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: When you're done, please post another screenshot so that I can confirm it looks right before you click Add.
[02:23] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Ouch, well I appreciate it. I might have to go manually fetch some off the AMD/ATI site see what works
[02:24] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/lqknOtv.png
[02:24] <Brayden5234> There is the screen shot :D
[02:24] <Brayden5234> So click add?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Yes, click add.
[02:25] <Mabus_> please help me T_T
[02:25] <Brayden5234> Done now what?
[02:25] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: That is one way to see .. Just be aware it is a bit more involved to back out of the OEM install .. and that driver install will break when the kernel is updated .
[02:25] <Brayden5234> Click the green check mark?
[02:25] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Not yet. We'll do that when all the operations are prepared.
[02:26] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Yea like my network card i have to manually install that everytime.
[02:26] <Brayden5234> Alright sounds good now what? Another partition?
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Add another partition: Space preceeding: 1, Size: 100, Filesystem: Fat32
[02:26] <Garv> Can someone help me upgrade from 12.04.5? Can't seem to find newer release with update-manager nor with sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[02:26] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Yeah .. same same . Proprietary code means we can not mess with it .
[02:27] <Mabus_> i just install ubuntu but it not work
[02:27] <Mabus_> crash when i try login
[02:27] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/VUKgiRk.png
[02:27] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Well thanks for your time appreciate the help regardless.
[02:27] <Brayden5234> Click add?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Garv: Do *not* use -d, it stands "Development release".
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Garv: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade".
[02:27] <Mabus_> i try few different versions and nothing help
[02:28] <Garv> Jordan_U: it didn't work without the -d anyway
[02:28] <Garv> will do
[02:28] <Bashing-om> ironhoof: Well. np .. Just sorry the result is no better .
[02:28] <smokeless> I've got a question, I've got an HP stream 13, it came with a t-mobile 4g card in it. How do I get that working?
[02:28] <ironhoof> Bashing-om: Comes with the territory
[02:28] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Yes.
[02:28] <Mabus_> anyone can help me?
[02:28] <Brayden5234> Create another partition now?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Add another partition: Space preceeding: 1, Free Space following 2048, Filesystem: ext4
[02:30] <Bashing-om> Mabus_: Ask your question and see if any knows .
[02:30] <Garv> Jordan_U: update output http://pastebin.com/aYHaP1qD
[02:30] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I list the current grub setting?
[02:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> list the available grub boot options, i e
[02:31] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/kQrs3JK.png
[02:31] <Brayden5234> Alright did that partition the large one you just said and the screen shot shows what I have so far.
[02:31] <Mabus_> Bashing-om, i cant run any desktop version on my notebook
[02:32] <Garv> Jordan_U: release-upgrade -d output is "No new release found"
[02:32] <Mabus_> Bashing-om, it always crash when i try login
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: It looks like you didn't do the Free space following 2048.
[02:33] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I list the grub options availble at boot time from console?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: sudo grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:33] <smokeless> Mabus_ : You get to the lock screen?
[02:33] <Bashing-om> Mabus_: I have no experience with notebooks. await and see what others advise.
[02:33] <Mabus_> smokeless, yes
[02:34] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/4BP5sld.png
[02:34] <Brayden5234> There that is what it will allow me to do.
[02:34] <smokeless> Mabus_: What kind of crash on login?
[02:34] <Mabus_> smokeless, it fresh istalled system.
[02:34] <TyrfingMjolnir> Jordan_U: That implies that the grub update was succesful
[02:34] <Brayden5234> It will not allow 2048 I did delete the other partition I messed up on though of course.
[02:34] <smokeless> Mabus_: What happens when it crashes?
[02:34] <Mabus_> smokeless, message about internal error, and message about report problem
[02:35] <Mabus_> smokeless, but i think button report problem not work becouse it flash and hide. And i see login screen again and again
[02:36] <Brayden5234> My bad this screen shot
[02:36] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/6lEKLSO.png
[02:36] <blue403> if I send an argv** to execv, will it copy the strings that the vector points to before it returns, or is it unsafe to alter those strings after a call to execv?
[02:36] <Brayden5234> Is that correct Jordan_U
[02:36] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: It shows you what options will be available at boot. If you don't have a grub.cfg, then you won't have any options at boot.
[02:37] <Mabus_> smokeless, i cant login, guest cant login too
[02:37] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I list the actual grub options availble at boot time from console? To verify that these are all used: sudo grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Garv: Prelude: what returns from terminal command ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ??
[02:38] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Yes. (I said 2048 rather than 2047, but it doesn't really make a difference).
[02:38] <smokeless> mabus_: What program is generating the error?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: I don't understand, what do you want that the command I gave you doesn't show?
[02:38] <Mabus_> smokeless, i dont know because system not tell me it
[02:39] <Brayden5234> What now: http://i.imgur.com/BIP1RlF.png
[02:39] <Brayden5234> Do I click green arrow?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: No, add another last partition.
[02:39] <Brayden5234> Alright
[02:39] <Garv> Bashing-om: Should that take a while to return output?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Add another partition: Space preceeding: 1, Free Space following 1, Filesystem: Swap
[02:39] <Mabus_> smokeless, i press login, little loading, black screen, and i got login screen again it all
[02:40] <Mabus_> smokeless, i can make video it few minutes later installed 14.04 LTS
[02:40] <Bashing-om> Garv: no, should be a quick return.
[02:41] <Brayden5234> Linux-swap?
[02:41] <Garv> not sure what the problem is
[02:41] <Brayden5234> I do not see just Swap
[02:41] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U
[02:41] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Yes, linux-swap
[02:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> Jordan_U: The command you showed me is grepping the config, the source of the grub, and it is not necessarily the current grub config
[02:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> I would like the grub equivalent of iptables -t nat -vL
[02:42] <smokeless> mabus_: No need for a vid, can you change window managers?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: Where would you expect to find a more recent grub configuration?
[02:42] <TyrfingMjolnir> By querying the MBR
[02:42] <Mabus_> smokeless, how? what press?
[02:42] <Garv> Bashing-om: I gedit the prompt to normal
[02:42] <TyrfingMjolnir> There should be such a function in the grub package, no?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: You're thinking of how lilo works. Grub does not store its configuration in the MBR, it really does read the /boot/grub/grub.cfg at boot.
[02:43] <Brayden5234> It only gives the option of 1 and the other 0 or 0 and the other 1
[02:43] <smokeless> mabus_: at the login screen there maybe an option to change the desktop environment
[02:43] <Brayden5234> http://i.imgur.com/2sYXcqR.png
[02:43] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U
[02:43] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Click add.
[02:43] <Brayden5234> Alright
[02:43] <TyrfingMjolnir> Jordan_U: Oh
[02:43] <Brayden5234> Green check now?
[02:44] <Mabus_> smokeless, no any options, i see only 2 users select
[02:44] <TyrfingMjolnir> How does that work?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: Yes.
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Garv: read the file .. Do you realy want "normal" ?? from 12.04 to 14.04 prompt should be "lts" .
[02:44] <TyrfingMjolnir> I can have grub config with errors and still boot.
[02:44] <Garv> lts was getting me nothing
[02:44] <smokeless> mabus_: can you control-alt f1 and login?
[02:44] <Garv> actually, it's lts now
[02:44] <Mabus_> smokeless, yes
[02:45] <Mabus_> smokeless, i in tty1
[02:45] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: I don't understand your question. What errors do you have in your "grub config"? Are you talking about your /boot/grub/grub.cfg when you say "grub config"?
[02:46] <Garv> Bashing-om: I can't get an option to upgrade to ANYthing
[02:46] <Mabus_> smokeless, here i can login but i want X gui
[02:46] <smokeless> mabus_: That's good, you should be able to access /var/log and narrow your problem a bit.
[02:46] <Garv> 13.X, nothing
[02:46] <smokeless> mabus_: I get that, but something is breaking. Probably the window manager.
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Garv: OK, is this a standard desktop install ?? Is the manager installed ? ' dpkg -l update-manager-core ' .
[02:46] <Mabus_> smokeless, ok i try install mc and look what in there
[02:47] <glopez-mx>  HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-16-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "vivid" 15.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  N2840  @ 2.16GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.58GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.7GiB, 72.6% free ** Disk: Total: 89.5GiB, 81.9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI
[02:47] <glopez-mx> Express Fast Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 23m 56s **
[02:47] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U look: http://i.imgur.com/CU6gWdq.png
[02:47] <Garv> yeah, double-checked update manager install
[02:47] <TyrfingMjolnir> Affirmative: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:47] <Mabus_> smokeless, thank you for trying help, please wait me
[02:47] <TyrfingMjolnir> If I make a config that does not work
[02:47] <Brayden5234> It stopped on the Swap partition... Why?
[02:47] <Mabus_> smokeless, i slowpoke T_T
[02:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> The entry is just ignored at boot?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Garv: I do not know, yet. What results ' sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " that only updates the precise install .
[02:49] <Garv> Bashing-om: output for dpkg http://pastebin.com/dAE23HBd
[02:49] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U check this out: http://i.imgur.com/CU6gWdq.png For some reason it did this.
[02:50] <Garv> Bashing-om: update output http://pastebin.com/aYHaP1qD
[02:50] <smokeless> mabus_: do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade / apt-get --fix-missing just in case
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Garv: Yep, the manager is installed, should release upgrade, huimmm ^^ .
[02:50] <Mabus_> smokeless, i in /var/log what look?
[02:51] <Garv> Bashing-om:distro-upgrade is 0 this, 0 that, etc
[02:51] <Garv> :/
[02:51] <therealtbe> hello I have ubuntu 14.04 and it was working fine for a week, now about half the characters are missing from my screen please help
[02:51] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: I don't know what caused that, please pastebin the log that GParted will (hopefully) ask you to save.
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Garv: Yeah, I had seen the 'update' output .. Prior to release upgrading we will disable the 3rd party sources .
[02:52] <therealtbe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1342675
[02:52] <smokeless> mabus_: Also try unity --reset
[02:52] <therealtbe> very similar to that ^
[02:52] <therealtbe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2232410
[02:52] <therealtbe> same as that ^
[02:52] <Garv> Bash: right, forgot about that
[02:52] <Garv> Bash: so... it's magic?
[02:52] <therealtbe> same as this post:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/454248/letters-characters-missing
[02:52] <Garv> Bash: a gypsy curse?
[02:53] <Mabus_> smokeless, i try other distributives like 15.04 and Kylin and same crash
[02:53] <Jordan_U> Brayden5234: I'm going to be away for at least 20 minutes. Please pastebin the requested log, http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=gparted-live-manual&lang=C#gparted-live-saving-gparted-details should have more details on how to get to the log.
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Garv: Well, sometimes it so feel like a curse, but no .. got to be a config issue somewhere, But will take someone with greater skills than my own to find it . When Jordan_U gets a breather .
[02:54] <Garv> Thanks Bash
[02:54] <smokeless> mabus_: Same crash, it's definitely something to do with X/wm, there's no error messages?
[02:54] <Brayden5234> http://pastebin.com/K120U57R That is the gparted log and this is the error I am getting now http://i.imgur.com/C2VJmz6.png
[02:55] <Mabus_> smokeless, i try find it in log
[02:55] <smokeless> mabus_: Without some sort of error it's hard for me to track it down.
[02:55] <smokeless> mabus_: unity --reset didn't do anything?
[02:55] <ele_noir> hi guis. need help, how can i rollback supertuxkart from 0.9 to 0.8? 0.9 is running really bad on my pc. is there any apt-get equivalent for "snappy rollback supertuxkart"?
[02:56] <ele_noir> with snappy i just make "sudo snappy rollback supertuxkart" and i'm done but with apt i have no idea :(
[02:57] <Mabus_> smokeless, unity --reset show warning and error
[02:58] <Mabus_> smokeless, warn - no display var set, set :0
[02:58] <Mabus_> smokeless, err the reset option is now deprecated
[02:58] <smokeless> Mabus_: Try on x now?
[02:58] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U please look at what I sent above. I realize you are busy helping lots of people but I will be paying you for all your help
[02:59] <Brayden5234> You do have bitcoins right?
[02:59] <Mabus_> smokeless, what press? T_T i lame sorry
[03:00] <smokeless> Mabus_: cntrl alt f7
[03:02] <Brayden5234> Jordan_U I have no clue on what to do... Any ideas?
[03:02] <Mabus_> smokeless i see login screen but all halted, mouse not move and pass not typed
[03:03] <smokeless> mabus_: reboot
[03:04] <Brayden5234> It is amazing how many problems can be solved by simply rebooting...
[03:05] <Mabus_> smokeless, i rebooted, try login in gui?
[03:05] <Brayden5234> Well looks like I will not be installing Ubuntu on the hard drive any time soon haha. I have no clue as to how to do this.
[03:07] <Mabus_> smokeless, i rebooted, try login in gui?
[03:08] <smokeless> Mabus_: Sure, and if that doesn't work you're going to have to hunt down the error =/
[03:08] <Brayden5234> Just type the error in google. Generally solves my problems haha.
[03:09] <Mabus_> smokeless, doesn`t work T_T i see message about report problem but now mouse not work
[03:09] <smokeless> Brayden: Yeh, but apparently there is no error message.
[03:10] <Brayden5234> Oh, then I have no clue...
[03:10] <Mabus_> smokeless, i trying press report by keyb but i think it not help because fast reloaded login screen
[03:10] <Brayden5234> Guys check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11236871/plain/ Haha I am putting a bounty out for a successful guide.
[03:11] <Mabus_> smokeless, what i can do? T_T
[03:11] <Brayden5234> I don't care if you guys send me the link from someone else's blog... I just really want this done.
[03:11] <smokeless> Mabus_: Unfortunately it's beyond my skill level. If you can narrow the error down that'll get you pretty far though.
[03:12] <Mabus_> smokeless maybe i can compress var log and send it?
[03:13] <smokeless> mabus_: I'd goto the official forums. They'll be more equipped to deal with something like this.
[03:14] <Mabus_> T_T it pity, i want fast solution
[03:15] <Mabus_> maybe try install 12.04?
[03:15] <Brayden5234> I guess Jordan_U abandoned me :(
[03:15] <smokeless> mabus_: That could work. Make sure to live boot and make sure everything works first.
[03:15] <Brayden5234> Right when I ran into the big problems conveniently lol.
[03:17] <smokeless> So, I'm trying to get the inbuilt 4g card that came with my computer working, but can't find a guide anywhere.
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Nope, Jordan_U did advise you he would be away, and would return in about 20 minutes . patience .
[03:19] <coldslabs> Brayden5234: http://askubuntu.com/questions/446682/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-portable-external-hard-drive
[03:36] <Danato> does anybody know how to compress a folder to .dat?
[03:39] <Ben64> Danato: .dat means nothing
[03:40] <jasand> Whenever I try to login to my Ubuntu desktop it accepts my password then shows another login screen.
[03:41] <Danato> Ben64: nothing how? there is a folder compressed on .dat, data,dat. I wanna uncompress it, modify it and compress it back to .dat
[03:41] <jasand> Also it seems to have forgotten my wifi password...
[03:45] <Jordan_U_phone> Brayden5234: It looks like maybe the drive was disconnected while performing the last operation.
[03:48] <zardoz> lol, man irc on raspberry pi and ubuntu
[03:48] <Bashing-om> jasand: Suso'n where you should not have ? Dothe  files in your /home belong to "you" ? check ' ls -al /home/<user_name> ' /
[03:50] <jasand> Oh yeah a program changed my resolution and then crashed and I wasnt sure how to fix it. I did a sudo startx in a terminal... guess thats a bad idea.
[03:50] <zardoz> anyone know if a ubuntu for rpi channel exsist?
[03:52] <jasand> Ah yep .xauthority doesnt belong to me now
[03:52] <Bashing-om> jasand: Yeah, that will do it .. verify that .Xauthority and .ICEauthority are now owned by 'root' .. and we chmod back to "you" .
[03:53] <somsip> zardoz: info with links here. Dunno about an irc channel offhand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[03:55] <zardoz> somsip, thank you for that link, thats one I did not run across.
[03:55] <Bashing-om> jasand: ' sudo chown USERNAME:USERNAME .ICEauthority , sudo chown USERNAME:USERNAME .Xauthority' should set things back to normal .
[03:55] <zardoz> somsip, looks like some of the some info I have been seeing though
[03:57] <jasand> Thanks Bashing it worked.  Im trying to set up a remote desktop program.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> jasand: Well, if you can not configure from the GUI settings tool, there are CLI ways, but that can get deep .
[03:59] <jasand> I was hoping like a "reload defaults" type thing from the cli
[04:00] <Kuwanger> How do I burn a cd with two data tracks, one mode 1 and one mode 2?
[04:00] <phelix> Could anyone show me how to allow any IP address to connect to port 3128 with iptables?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> jasand: Well, yeah .. one can do that .. what desktop are we talking about here ?
[04:00] <jasand> Or restart the window system maybe. Unity.
[04:04] <Bashing-om> jasand: One could try: ' dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ , unity --reset-icons , setsid unity ' for starters .
[04:07] <UserUS> what application would be good for recording the screen on ubuntu 14?
[04:07] <zeeb> so.. my entire audio broke after latest updates?
[04:09] <Kuwanger> UserUS: simplescreenrecorder
[04:17] <scrope> test
[04:29] <whallz> hey, i just dpkg'd linux headers and image 4.0.4, and i can't see the mouse cursor
[04:29] <whallz> ubuntu 14.04
[04:30] <whallz> why i can't se the mouse cursor? it's crazy
[04:31] <whallz> the mouse still works
[04:31] <whallz> but it's invisible
[04:33] <dixsonhoepp> hello friends, one of you knows how to create bootable usb with windows 7 from ubuntu 14.04?
[04:37] <whallz> dixsonhoepp: if you have an image of that windows you can dd it, man dd
[04:38] <Ben64> Danato: what is the output of "file data.dat"
[04:38] <whallz> dixsonhoepp: be very careful with selecting the wrong device to write the image to
[04:39] <Danato> Ben64: data.dat: RAR archive data, v1d, flags: Solid, os: Unix
[04:39] <Ben64> so its a rar, use that
[04:39] <Danato> ok, thanks
 I have the image and the device
[04:41] <dixsonhoepp> whallz: I have the image and the device
[04:42]  * Linux4UnMe testing freenode
[04:42] <Linux4UnMe> fuck shit ass bitch cunt
[04:42] <Linux4UnMe> damn...
[04:43] <whallz> why can the mouse cursor be invisible? i upgraded my kernel and now i dont see the cursor, the mouse works properly
[04:43] <whallz> but no cursor
[04:49] <whallz> anyone?
[04:56] <Fr3d3r1c> hello
[04:57] <Fr3d3r1c> whats is "other" in chmod permission please ?
[05:02] <Ben64> Fr3d3r1c: can you be more specific
[05:03] <Fr3d3r1c> i can understand user and group permission but others.. what is this for ?
[05:03] <Ben64> people that aren't the user or group
[05:04] <Fr3d3r1c> do you have a pratic example ?
[05:04] <Ben64> literally anyone other than the owner or the group of the file
[05:05] <Fr3d3r1c> yes but a pratical example
[05:06] <Ben64> are you serious? lets say you're the owner, i'd be other
[05:06] <Fr3d3r1c> nobody, other than user and group can access to a FTP
[05:06] <Fr3d3r1c> i guess
[05:07] <Ben64> is this leading to another question?
[05:09] <Fr3d3r1c> i search a pratical example, like website visitors that would like accessing to files
[05:09] <Fr3d3r1c> sorry, i'm not native english speaker
[05:09] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[05:09] <Fr3d3r1c> as you can see
[05:10] <Fr3d3r1c> nothing, i try to understand the utility of "other"
[05:11] <Ben64> Fr3d3r1c: i don't know how to explain it any more clearly. there is an owner, there is a group. everyone else is other
[05:11] <Fr3d3r1c> ok, thanks for all
[05:15] <void> disconnect irc.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <andres_> hola
[05:24] <ddragonay> Hi there
[05:25] <ddragonay> can anyone help me?, who knows how to use sslstrip from backtrack?
[05:29] <rusticplague> my comp keeps freezing up when i try to brouse the channels.  anyone know of any cool interesting tech channels?
[05:29] <docmur_> I'm going a rsync -avNK on a 250 GB folder, when I ps -aux | grep rsync, I can see 3 processes.  If I run du -m
[05:29] <docmur_>                  /opt/folder* | sort -n, I can see the copy is now bigger then
[05:29] <docmur_>                  the original by almost 20GB, is this normal?
[05:30] <DazPetty> can anybody recommend something to setup virtual networks and machines so I can make practice labs?
[05:47] <mvk> Could anyone please http://pastebin.ca    =>    /etc/sddm.conf   please
[05:47] <mvk> i cant get mine back
[05:49] <mvk> Could anyone please http://pastebin.ca    =>    /etc/sddm.conf   please
[05:49] <mvk> i cant get mine back
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> mvk: found one online, not sure if its same you got: http://pastebin.com/YcPxNVBx
[05:52] <mvk> lotuspsychje: THANKS
[05:52] <mvk> lotuspsychje: that file was in /etc/sddm.conf right?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> mvk: like i said, found this file online, i search my /etc and didnt find that file on 14.04 default
[05:53] <Lildirt> Does anyone notice that Unity seems to output pure noise to the screen when doing some things, like logging on, whilst under the Xorg ATI drivers?
[05:53] <mvk> ahh ok
[05:53] <Lildirt> It's a bit disturbing to kind of just see my screens look like they literally got smacked with a baseball bat.
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: ubuntu version?
[05:53] <Lildirt> 14.04
[05:53] <mvk> lotuspsychje: after boot, i only see a lightgrey screen
[05:54] <Lildirt> I installed it not too terribly long ago, so I haven't done much to it.
[05:54] <mvk> > i went from ubuntu to xfce, and then wanted to go back to ubuntu
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> mvk: always fresh install
[05:54] <mvk> lotuspsychje: :(((
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: it might be interesting to imgur that distortion to channel
[05:54] <Lildirt> It's only for but a moment, and it doesn't even happen all of the time.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: you know wich grafix chipset?
[05:55] <Lildirt> But it's literally just noise on all three of my monitors. Looks like someone poured a glass of water on the GPU at the worst moment.
[05:55] <jdoe> I'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu server 14.10 to 15.04, but it's pulling in a ton of gnome packages for some reason. How can I tell which package has that dependency?
[05:55] <Lildirt> The card is an actual card, a Radeon HD 7950.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: you can also check your syslog and dmesg
[05:56] <Lildirt> I mean, it's not a big deal. It just happens for a split second when logging in.
[05:56] <Lildirt> But it's scaring the hell out of the people that use this computer.
[05:56] <Lildirt> I'll take a peek later though, not on Ubuntu at the moment.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: if its just a glimpse, no sweat that can happen on ubuntu
[05:56] <Lildirt> It ranges from maybe a moment to a full second.
[05:57] <Lildirt> Not bad, just while it's loading everything up.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: but constant distortion is more serious
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Lildirt: nothing to worry about then
[05:57] <Lildirt> Oh, no no no. It's just during key actions that cause the display to change anyways.
[05:58] <mvk> lotuspsychje: it was time for a reinstall anyway ;D
[05:58] <wafflejock> Lildirt, yeah most of the systems I've run various linux distros (mostly ubuntu variants) have shown that kind of weird data on the GPU type thing with various GPUs too
[05:58] <mokmeister> jdoe: apt-cache rdepends [gnome package name] would get you started on finding out what package depends on those gnome packages
[05:58] <Lildirt> Ahh, okay. I didn't suffer this while running a Debian Wheezy install with GNOME so I was wondering if my hardware was melting.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> mvk: 14.04 with cable+internet+updates is very recommended
[05:58] <wafflejock> Lildirt, and like you said just when like going from plymouth the loading screen to the login or just after login as it starts the desktop up
[05:59] <wafflejock> Lildirt, has never resulted in any real problems just small annoyance
[05:59] <Lildirt> Yeah. I have a couple of people who use this system and they keep acting like the world is ending.
[06:00] <mvk> lotuspsychje: because 15.04 has a LOT of bugs? :P
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> mvk: i didnt say that, thats your choice wich version you wanna be using
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> mvk: between LTS and non-LTS
[06:01] <mvk> lotuspsychje: i like systemd xD
[06:02] <wafflejock> Lildirt, believe ubuntu 15.04 has an option for using wayland which is a different layer for handling some of the low level drawing stuff so perhaps that will help to smooth things over, but who knows
[06:02] <wafflejock> Lildirt, as someone just mentioned a lot of people have had problems with it I think but that's kind of typical of the non-LTS releases
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> mvk: systemd comes default on 15.04, but you can install systemd on 14.04
[06:02] <Lildirt> Oh man Wayland. Is it as crusty as Xorg? xD
[06:03] <wafflejock> Lildirt, "they" say no :)
[06:09] <CIDR> I have a Raidcore RC5252-8 I see google says plenty of people have got them to work, but I'm not able to get ubuntu 14.01 to detect/see the drivers?
[06:31] <Bray90820> So I have a SAMBA Share on u buntu and I am trying to connect to it from another ubuntu box but it keeps saying permission denied
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> !samba | Bray90820
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> CIDR: what kind of devices is this?
[06:38] <CIDR> my box is just hanging at mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.   any idea?
[06:42] <jdoe> mokmeister: except I'll be querying dependencies against the wrong release. I'm not sure that's biting me in the ass or if I'm just missing something, but there's no obvious reason from rdepends for unity-control-center to be installed, for example.
[06:42] <jdoe> (apologies for the late response)
[06:43] <blue403> so I have one child process that execv("vim"..) in a fork, and the parent process that gets() from stdin.  If I do that, both processes becomes zombies. Any insights into why?
[06:49] <darxmurf> hi  all
[06:49] <darxmurf> is  there a European mirror for security.ubuntu.com ?
[06:49] <darxmurf> it looks like the USA one is slow like  hell  now
[06:57] <Caleb--> i don't understand why my computer becomes very laggy, and sometimes even hangs a bit when swapping is used, even though i'm on an SSD (so is the swap partition)
[06:58] <Caleb--> back when i was on windows with a regular HDD i didn't experience these drastic performance issues when swapping
[06:58] <Caleb--> it seems that on linux when you start swapping you're pretty much screwed. the mouse barely moves and the system barely reacts to keyboard strokes
[07:00] <MasterOfDisaster> Caleb--: you're sure that swapping is your only I/O problem? Check with iotop.
[07:01] <MasterOfDisaster> Caleb--: swapping behaviour is tunable with sysctl on Linux.
[07:02] <Caleb--> i'll look into it some more, but i'm pretty sure it's the swap
[07:03] <Caleb--> i left a lot of chrome tabs and windows open once, and it ended up using up my 16GB of memory... i tried to shut chrome down, but the system was so unresponsive i had to reboot
[07:04] <MasterOfDisaster> Caleb--: 'swapoff -a ; swapon -a' should take care of swap usage. It'll take a while though to showel all the data from swap back to RAM.
[07:04] <geirha> yeah, once your applications are using more than physical mem, you enter swapping-hell, which is hard to get out of
[07:06] <MasterOfDisaster> Caleb--: In my personal opinion, I don't see to much use for swap on a desktop machine. On a server, it might buy you a little time with degraded performance before the server refuses to handle requests.
[07:06] <geirha> If you disable the swap, the linux oom-killer (out of memory killer) will instead kill some processes when that happens, but you lose the ability to hibernate the system.
[07:06] <Caleb--> i see. i don't need hibernation on a desktop
[07:07] <MasterOfDisaster> geirha: If you boot from SSD anyway, it doesn't matter too much.
[07:07] <MasterOfDisaster> geirha: lacking hibernate I mean.
[07:08] <geirha> MasterOfDisaster: well, booting from hibernation takes about the same time as booting fresh in my experience. The main point is that you get back the session you were in
[07:08] <MasterOfDisaster> Caleb--: see docs for 'vm.swappiness' on how to influence linux swapping behaviour.
[07:09] <MasterOfDisaster> geirha: true.
[07:09] <Caleb--> anyone tried something like zswap?
[07:14] <axhiao> q
[07:22] <fettler> Hello.  Third day of trying to install Wine Windows Program Loader.  Keep getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11239989/
[07:22] <fettler> Can anyone suggest where I'm going wrong?  Running on a USB stick.
[07:23] <fettler> Am trying to install using the Ubuntu Software Center
[07:24] <Lildirt> Hm. The only thing I can really try is to manually get the dependencies yourself, otherwise I haven't seen Wine spit out that before.
[07:25] <fettler> Lildirt:  I'd like to try that.  How would I go about getting the dependency manually?  I know nothing.  I am from Barcelona.
[07:27] <fettler> Lildirt:  I guess I need to get wine1.6-i386  Could you tell me how to do that please?
[07:29] <fettler> Lildirt:  When I type that in the box on the Ubuntu software center screen, it finds no items which match
[07:33] <fettler> Lildirt:  Are you able to assist me in getting wine1.6-i386. or should I try my question again with the readership?
[07:34] <geirha> fettler: could you pastebin   apt-cache policy wine1.6\*
[07:34] <bobonobotak> hello guys
[07:34] <bobonobotak> who know how do config mutt?
[07:35] <geirha> configuring mutt merely requires a text editor and a ton of patience
[07:36] <fettler> geirha: Here it is:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11240208/
[07:36] <bobonobotak> or is just one fille to config?
[07:37] <zxc> Guys, can someone give me username to a machine to put a Eggdrop
[07:39] <abdel_> ola
[07:39] <abdel_> una pregunta
[07:41] <fettler> geira:  Did that give any insights?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11240208/
[07:41] <scripts> hi
[07:42] <Ben64> fettler: you
[07:42] <Ben64> 're running a live usb and want to install wine?
[07:42] <fettler> geirha:  as you requested
[07:42] <fettler> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11240208/
[07:42] <Ben64> fettler: yes you pasted that already
[07:42] <fettler> Ben64: Yes, if possible
[07:43] <Ben64> why not install?
[07:43] <fettler> Ben64:  I'm evaluating Ubuntu before installing fully
[07:43] <Lildirt> Really sorry for dodging out there.
[07:44] <fettler> Ben64:  Do you think it is possible to install wine on a USB?
[07:44] <Lildirt> Need to run.
[07:44] <Ben64> fettler: possible, yes. should you do it? probably not
[07:45] <fettler> Ben64:  If I find I can run some essential Windows programs, then I plan to convert to Ubuntu
[07:45] <Ben64> check the appdb then
[07:45] <Ben64> which programs
[07:45] <fettler> Ben64:  So I'm not planning to use it heavily
[07:46] <fettler> Ben64:  Can you tell me what I need to do to get it installed?
[07:46] <Ben64> why bother with that when you can just look up the programs in the appdb
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !appdb | fettler
[07:47] <fettler> Ben64:  I don't know what an appdb is.
[07:47] <wut_> .
[07:48] <fettler> ubottu :  I'd like to see the programs running for myself before completely going over to Ubuntu.  That's why I'd like to install a trial on my USB
[07:48] <Ben64> which programs!
[07:49] <fettler> The programs I'd like to run are HPS Simulations
[07:49] <fettler> Campaign Leipzig
[07:49] <Bray90820> Can someone explain why I keep getting this error
[07:49] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d1f9ca0f510d7281af4e
[07:50] <fettler> Ben64: does that help?
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> fettler: like Ben64 suggested check the appdb database for your programs, or playonlinux database
[07:50] <fettler> (Have to drop out for 20 mins)
[07:51] <ricard> hello I was updated with software upgrade the kernel 3.16.0-38 and have removed the hand that I install the 3.16.0-37 and 3.13.0-53 that I install, I have kept the 3.13.0- 49 and the current is well ??
[07:51] <Ben64> fettler: you really need to install if you want to test it properly
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !mount | Bray90820
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | ricard
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> ricard: best kernel is the one working best for your specific system
[07:55] <ki7mt> +1 what ^^ said :-)
[07:55] <ricard> yes but if you have downloaded software upgrade it is that it is not good?
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> ricard: explain what you mean exactly?
[07:58] <ricard> if you downloaded the kernel software upgrade it is not good?
[08:01] <ricard> if you downloaded the kernel software upgrade it is not good?
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ricard: you mean your kernel update is not good, and you want to go back?
[08:01] <Ben64> ricard: how is it 'not good'
[08:03] <Fr3d3r1c> i have one informatic question
[08:03] <somsip> ricard: it's fine to use up to date kernels for the release you are using, but you may have problems if you use non-official kernels
[08:04] <fettler> Ben64:  I understand.  But this is a computer I'm thinking of building, and running Ubuntu on, but only if I can run the HPS programs on it.  I don't want to build it, then find it isn't suitable.
[08:04] <Ben64> fettler: well its the only way to be sure
[08:05] <Fr3d3r1c> must i activate VBOs when i have a graphic chip ?
[08:05] <fettler> Ben64:  I would be sure, if I could get wine installed on this USB.  Even if it's not trivial, and even if I don't use it beyond seeing it working.
[08:05] <ricard> then the kernels that are downloaded from Software Updater are not good?
[08:06] <somsip> ricard: they are good
[08:06] <Ben64> fettler: except you can't install graphics drivers, and you wouldn't have the latest version of wine from the ppa
[08:07] <ricard> thankyou somsip
[08:07] <fettler> Ben64:  I think it doesn't use adv anced graphics, it's not a shoot-em-up.  I think I just need to get that dependency wine1.6-i386
[08:08] <Ben64> fettler: it does use graphics though
[08:08] <ricard> bay
[08:09] <Fr3d3r1c> please, answer me : must i activate VBOs when i have a graphic chip ?
[08:09] <fettler> ben64:  Yes, of course.  But it runs on low-spec Windows machines , I believe.
[08:10] <Ben64> fettler: ok, you still need to install ubuntu to find out for sure
[08:10] <Ben64> fettler: or just run it in virtualbox
[08:11] <fettler> Ben64:  Ah.  Virtualbox.  Can I do that on a USB, do you think?
[08:11] <Ben64> fettler: virtualbox will run everything
[08:11] <fettler> Ben64:  Do you think I'll be able to install virtualbox on a USB?
[08:12] <Ben64> why?
[08:12] <k1l_> fettler: performance will be affected a lot on that setup.
[08:13] <fettler> Ben64:  Let me see if I understand you.  I can get virtualbox for windows, then run Ubuntu within it, and see if I can load my windows software?    I won't have it as the host system until the new computer is built.
[08:17] <jack_> ciao a tutti
[08:18] <fettler> Ben64:  And I don't want to build a computer to run an OS which won't load and run my software
[08:18] <fettler> kll:  they are wargame simulations from HPS
[08:18] <Ben64> virtualbox will run it
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !it | jack_
[08:19] <fettler> Ben64:  That sounds encouraging.  Thanks
[08:19] <jack_> ok ok
[08:19] <k1l_> fettler: you could look into the wine application database if it runs with wine.
[08:19] <k1l_> !appdb
[08:20] <fettler> kll:  Yes, thanks for that suggestion, and ubottu
[08:20] <ricard> but the kernel software update does not bring me problems?
[08:21] <Ben64> ricard: it shouldn't
[08:22] <ricard> thankyou
[08:23] <ricard> good bay ben64 and the others
[08:24] <AtuM> Hi! I'm trying to install ceph (hammer) onto an ubuntu node using ceph-deploy. I'm using the official online "tutorial", but I get many problems. I want to first test it on a single node. I get problems with "gatherkeys", then after I manually create them, I get problems with osd activation... is this a problem specific to ubuntu 14.04 or a common problem with ceph?
[08:25] <Number5> Hello guys, yesterday I asked what distro to install on eeepc 901 and k1l_ recommended me Lubuntu. I thought even Lubuntu was too big. At home I installed Lubuntu 12.04 and it worked out of the box! It's perfect and thank you for the your help :)
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Number5 TNX to k1l_
[08:26] <k1l_> Number5: good to hear it runs fine.
[08:28] <Number5> Thank you guys. I read several blogs and articles recommending the childish PuppyLinux, Cruchbang and other weird distros, but Lubuntu just works great, just perfect. It operates normal, not slow. Now my son can learn to hack with Linux :P
[08:29] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[08:38] <akaWolf> why this is a difference in output ot "id user" and "groups"? http://paste.akawolf.org/view/xwoQE I'm asking about that, because I have a problem: http://paste.akawolf.org/view/pILZy
[08:39] <cromag> Can anyone point me to a known "fix" to ungroup apps in 15.04 ? - it's a bit of a pain for me :(
[08:45] <dfcnvt> Why is it that the terminal switched to other Workspace/Desktop whenever I regularly click into the terminal? (Method of click, just left mouse button)
[08:50] <nosdaemon> Hi. I want to install kde-plasma-desktop in a script. I try "atp-get -y kde-plasma-desktop". But its stops asking for kdm etc. I want to make installation silent :( Any help
[08:52] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, If I understand what your asking, whichever workspace the app is opened in is where it will switch back when you change focus to it by clicking on it.
[08:53] <dfcnvt> ki7mt: I see. How do I prevent this?
[08:54] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, Im not sure you can, but I'll do a quick search and see if I can dig anything up.
[08:55] <dfcnvt> ki7mt: I think I got it. You hint the word "focus".  I checked in the preference, there's an option for focus.
[08:55] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, Which preferences are you looking at?
[08:56] <dfcnvt> ki7mt: By the way, the program I'm dealing with is "terminator"...It's a splitable windows inside terminal.
[08:56] <azizLIGHT> what are kenel header updates for
[08:56] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, Ok, Im not familiar with that app specifically.
[08:57] <dfcnvt> ki7mt: http://imgur.com/3YWPgkO
[08:57] <dfcnvt> I tested it out. It doesn't work as expected. The behavior remain the same.
[08:58] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, I don't have that installed. I'd say of the feature is not doing what is expected, that may be a bug.
[08:59] <dfcnvt> ki7mt: I don't think this is the only one. I believe it happen to other program (can't remember which)
[08:59] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, Not exactly an easy read, but, a a good explanation nontheless: http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHeaders
[09:00] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, Which desktop are you using?
[09:00] <dfcnvt> Er, Unity?
[09:00] <dfcnvt> Gnome?
[09:00] <azizLIGHT> ki7mt: yes i tried reading that. a lot of that is unknown to me
[09:01] <azizLIGHT> was hoping for a more simple explanation hehe
[09:01] <linuxuz3r> hey
[09:01] <linuxuz3r> what is gdbus and dconf for
[09:01] <ki7mt> dfcnvt, I dont see anything workspace wise that in the default preferences that would change that behavior in Unity.
[09:02] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, Ok hold on one.
[09:04] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, Without going into a full C programming explanation, this should suffice: http://www.serverschool.com/operating-systems/what-are-kernel-headers/
[09:05] <azizLIGHT> so its like source code for the kernel, you download it and compile a new kernel?
[09:05] <azizLIGHT> to upgrade your kernel?
[09:06] <jaimex> Hello everybody, I'm new in town. hehe
[09:06] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, Yes, that's one way to look at it. It's allot more complex, but that is the basic meaning.
[09:06] <azizLIGHT> hmmm interesting
[09:07] <azizLIGHT> well it looks like when i did update my kernels, it never got rid of the old ones. my /boot is full
[09:07] <azizLIGHT> this is ls -laF /boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11241389/
[09:08] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, It's hard to explain unless you code in C/C++ etc, but the header files define structures and constants needed for compiling.
[09:09] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, as far as the old kernel stuff, that's normal, Ubuntu leaves the older version(s) behind, in case you need to revert back.
[09:09] <azizLIGHT> The upgrade needs a total of 92.5 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 40.8 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[09:10] <azizLIGHT> i already did apt-get clean and nothing changed in /boot
[09:10] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[09:10] <azizLIGHT> yes, i do
[09:10] <k1l_> why that? using lvm or encryption?
[09:10] <azizLIGHT> luks and lvm, yes
[09:11] <azizLIGHT> whats the method to remove the old kernels
[09:11] <k1l_> ok. do a "ls -al /boot"
[09:11] <linuxuz3r> guys do you know why dbus gconf and gvfs-http connects to outside ip
[09:11] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11241441/
[09:11] <ki7mt> or dpkg -l | grep linux-image-
[09:12] <ki7mt> The use autoremove to remove old ones
[09:12] <azizLIGHT> apt-get autoremove?
[09:12] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: ok. you got several 3.13 kernels installed. you can remove the unused ones with removing the "linux-image-......" packages
[09:12] <ki7mt> sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-xxx where xxx are the old one you want removed
[09:12] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: if you are lucky "sudo apt-get autoremove" should remove old kernels
[09:13] <azizLIGHT> there is luck involved in this? why is that
[09:13] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: if not do a "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-....." for every old kernel package.
[09:13] <azizLIGHT> alright
[09:14] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: on modern ubuntus old kernels should be marked as not needed anymore and be removed with apt-get autoremoved. but i am not sure if that works for difficult setups like lvm and luks etc.
[09:14] <Skizu> Hey how do I copy something from my home directory
[09:15] <Skizu> I'm getting everything omitted
[09:18] <ubone> im testing openbox, do you know how to switch right to left mouse button for root menu?
[09:19] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: is this a safe operation. do i need to make full backups before attempting this
[09:20] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: i never had any warnings when updating the kernel headers, does removing them warrant being careful?
[09:20] <ki7mt> Yes, never remove the current kernel, nor the oldest kernel
[09:20] <azizLIGHT> why not the oldest?
[09:20] <ki7mt> Fallback
[09:20] <somsip> skcin7_: what command are you using now?
[09:21] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: as long as you leave at least one kernel installed you are safe. for booting recovery you need at least the second to last kernel too
[09:21] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell which kernel has worked for me out of the ones i have in my /boot, besides booting into them
[09:21] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, If your current becomes corrupt or inoperable, you want at least (1) known good kernel
[09:21] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: we cant tell you what kernel did work. that is your task
[09:21] <azizLIGHT> how does one figure this out
[09:22] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: you are making that more difficutl than it is
[09:22] <Nando3> I think the oldest kernel don't remove because if you fail compile a new kernel you can fix that with your oldest kernel
[09:22] <k1l_> see "uname -a" what kernel you are on. so remove the other kernels and leave one which is known to work there too
[09:23] <azizLIGHT> im guessing that when i updated kernel headers, ive rebooted most of the time, so it must have booted into the new kernel then, right?
[09:23] <azizLIGHT> meaning that that one worked
[09:23] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: are you mixing kernel headers and kernel images?
[09:23] <azizLIGHT> i dont know what that means :(
[09:24] <ki7mt> azizLIGHT, Kernel image is the binaries, kernel headers is what you asked about originally.
[09:24] <k1l_> kernel-image is the kernel you boot. kernel-headers are the headers that are needed to build modules for that kernel (like for video drivers or other drivers.
[09:24] <Skizu> I had a power cut when upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, it's half installed, like I do lsb_release -a it tell me 14.10
[09:24] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell if i mix kernel headers and kernel imges
[09:25] <Skizu> But I can't do apt-get update or anything as a lot of packages are missing
[09:25] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: but in /boot there is the kernel image. so removing kernel headers packages only will not free up space in /boot. you need to remove the kernel image packages too
[09:25] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: see what i wrote.
[09:25] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: you are mixing the words headers and images. they both mean different things
[09:26] <azizLIGHT> oh, i thought you meant somethign else
[09:26] <azizLIGHT> like using a different header version than image version or something
[09:26] <Nando3> hi all, I have a problem when I am compiled new kernel and run it on my pc. I got a blank screen
[09:26] <azizLIGHT> but you literally meant im mixing them up, as in, confused
[09:26] <k1l_> yes
[09:27] <azizLIGHT> does ubuntu use the newest kernel image/headers after a reboot after an apt-get update that installed new kernel image/headers?
[09:27] <Nando3> how to fix it?
[09:28] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: yes.
[09:28] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: the latest kernel is the first boot option in grub
[09:28] <azizLIGHT> so thats why grub is configured again after such an update
[09:28] <k1l_> yes
[09:29] <azizLIGHT> interesting
[09:30] <flaiks> hey i did some googling and couldnt find much
[09:30] <flaiks> anyone have expeirence with installing ubuntu on macbook pro 11,2 ?
[09:31] <Nando3> @flaiks : you can try live cd for hardware compatible before you installing for you pc
[09:31] <flaiks> hmm okay
[09:31] <Nando3> no problem
[09:31] <flaiks> @Nando3 thanks
[09:41] <vincent> #web
[09:44] <Mehrzad> hi
[09:45] <dream> china
[09:45] <gogeta> china umm ok
[09:46] <k1l_> !cn | dream
[09:46] <Mehrzad> when I try to loggin to ubuntu a commandline screen apears saying system-product-name login
[09:46] <dream> join #ubuntu-cn
[09:46] <dream>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:46] <Mehrzad> any attemps for logging in fails
[09:46] <dream> thinks
[09:47] <Mehrzad> why is this happening?
[09:47] <dream> #ubuntu-cn
[09:48] <gogeta> Mehrzad, wrong password?
[09:48] <dream>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:48] <dream> no join
[09:48] <Mehrzad> no, I know what my password is
[09:49] <equuapot-> dont put a space in front of your /join
[09:49] <OerHeks> Mehrzad, password accepted, desktop loads, but you return to the login again?
[09:49] <Mehrzad> why doesnt it automatically move to the graphical screen?
[09:50] <Mehrzad> no, inly a commandline screen appears whuch doesnt accpet my pass
[09:50] <gogeta> Mehrzad, you have to set it to do so if its some custom install
[09:50] <Jobbe> I have a 10.04 box - if i do a do-release-upgrade will it then upgrade to 12.04 or 14.02 ?
[09:50] <Jobbe> 14.04*
[09:51] <Mehrzad> only*
[09:51] <gogeta> Mehrzad, relly sounds like wrong password they are cap sentive
[09:51] <dream> how join ubuntu -cn
[09:51] <OerHeks> Jobbe, lts to lts, so you would get 12.04
[09:52] <gogeta> -/join #ubuntu-cn no not typ the -
[09:52] <gogeta> do not type the -
[09:52] <dream> -/join #ubuntu-cn
[09:53] <equuapot-> without the -
[09:53] <Mehrzad> okay, I entered the "coreect" userpass, now its moved to the terminal instead of the desktop
[09:53] <gogeta> Mehrzad, just type startx should get a ui :)
[09:53] <dream> think you
[09:54] <OerHeks> uh oh, startx is depreciated, sudo service lightdm start is current
[09:54] <Mehrzad> got me to a black window. and cpu is working
[09:55] <OerHeks> startx=gdm (old)
[09:55] <Mehrzad> do I reset and continue with the new command?
[09:55] <gogeta> Mehrzad, seems my command is to old school
[09:56] <gogeta> Mehrzad, alt f1 ctrl-c
[09:56] <gogeta> kill the z session
[09:56] <gogeta> x
[09:57] <gogeta> Mehrzad, alt-f1 ctrl-c
[09:57] <gogeta> Mehrzad, should get your bash back use new command
[09:57] <Mehrzad> doesnt work. im hardware reseting it
[09:58] <gogeta> Mehrzad, you can add lighdm to autostart once you login if thats what your looking for
[10:00] <Mehrzad> there is an "[ok]" at the topleft corner of the window now
[10:00] <Mehrzad> and a blinking cursor
[10:00] <gogeta> did you install a window manager?
[10:02] <Mehrzad> no, but I entered some terminal command the last time
[10:02] <Mehrzad> sudo apt-get upgrade gtkmmlib-30-dev
[10:02] <k1l_> Mehrzad: what did you do before that unusal boot happend?
[10:03] <Mehrzad> thats what I entered
[10:03] <gogeta> Mehrzad, your saying you dont have lightdm?
[10:04] <k1l_> Mehrzad: so you added a PPA?
[10:05] <Mehrzad> well I somehow managed to pass that "ok" window.
[10:06] <svetlana> good
[10:06] <Mehrzad> it asked me to upgrade to 14.04, and I entered that command
[10:06] <gogeta> Mehrzad, oh a upgrade gone wrong
[10:07] <svetlana> odd. should be upgrading to 15.04 by now.
[10:07] <Mehrzad> ktl_: I wanted to upgrade the gtkmm sdk
[10:07] <gogeta> Mehrzad, startx unity
[10:07] <Mehrzad> ah
[10:07] <k1l_> svetlana: no. please dont confuse the user
[10:07] <gogeta> Mehrzad, with no windows amanger that should start it  manuly
[10:07] <gogeta> manager
[10:07] <k1l_> gogeta: no startx. thats deprecated
[10:08] <k1l_> Mehrzad: "sudo service lightdm start"
[10:08] <ANJ7> Hey guys! I just re-installed windows. And I can't access my ubuntu start up. Any help on this issue?
[10:08] <Mehrzad> its currently updating
[10:08] <gogeta> he does not have light dm and a old ubuntu
[10:08] <Mehrzad> whats next?
[10:08] <gogeta> Mehrzad, let the updates run
[10:08] <k1l_> Mehrzad: what ubuntu is that?
[10:09] <k1l_> gogeta: startx is deprecated since ages on ubuntu
[10:09] <Mehrzad> okay, and then run that command "sudo service..."?
[10:09] <k1l_> so if he doesnt have a 6.06 its just the wrong command
[10:09] <Mehrzad> 12.04 stl
[10:09] <svetlana> what is the new way?
[10:09] <OerHeks> 12.04 started with lightdm AFAIK.
[10:09] <k1l_> Mehrzad: sudo service lightdm start
[10:09] <gogeta> Mehrzad, if your lucky after the updates everything will work correctly again
[10:10] <k1l_> that will start the login screen.
[10:10] <Mehrzad> ah. ok. thank you guys
[10:10] <svetlana> if I don't have a dm, that is. (if I do, I know that I can start it)
[10:10] <k1l_> lightdm is the standard dm since 11.10
[10:10] <Mehrzad> im waiting until the upgrad finishes
[10:11] <k1l_> svetlana: the regular ubuntu setup comes with a dm. so we can be 99,99% sure the users in here who done even know what a dm is will have a regular setup with a dm. so the "there is still 0,00000001% chance he doesnt have a dm" is just not suitable
[10:12] <denverjoel> Is there a downside to using upstart to horizontally scale the same node.js app?
[10:13] <svetlana> k1l_: i mean not for him, i mean for my own reference.
[10:14] <svetlana> i don't have a dm on some machines.
[10:14] <agent_white> denverjoel: You from Denver? Or trying to pretend to be from my city? ;D
[10:14] <svetlana> k1l_, and as i use startx but you said it's deprecated, i'm worried.
[10:14] <gogeta> k1l_, or it got broken
[10:14] <denverjoel> agent_white: Haha, no I am from the mile high
[10:14] <k1l_> svetlana: there are still setups that work with startx. but the ubuntu setup doesnt work with that.
[10:14] <gogeta> Seveas, just means its no longer the primary command
[10:15] <agent_white> denverjoel: ;)  Living here now?
[10:15]  * agent_white high-fives fellow denver-ite
[10:15] <denverjoel> agent_white: yes
[10:15] <k1l_> startx will change permissions of some files and will lead to more confusing errors afterwards. so just dont advice that when starting the dm is even better.
[10:15] <agent_white> denverjoel: Get to bed! It's 4:15! ;D
[10:16]  * denverjoel high-fives back
[10:16] <Johnny_Linux> is from the springs, mornin
[10:16] <denverjoel> agent_white: I work nights so it's a perfect fit.
[10:16] <agent_white> denverjoel: Same here. I'm out in Kiowa. Cattle-ranching in the morning, waiting tables at night!
[10:17] <gogeta> k1l_, no it whont unless you ran it as sudo like a fool
[10:17] <denverjoel> agent_white: and hacking inbetween?
[10:17] <agent_white> denverjoel: Pretty much :D
[10:17] <gogeta> k1l_, i think your info is flawed
[10:17] <OerHeks> gogeta, wrong. 'startx' will wreck .Xauthority
[10:18] <k1l_> gogeta: well, just sit in here some weeks and see what happens. i hope you will stick to here to help all the guys having issues afterwards.
[10:18] <gogeta> k1l_, brother i ran boxes longer then most folks hear im not worryed
[10:19] <k1l_> gogeta: *sigh*
[10:19] <OerHeks> gogeta, stop trying to win this startx battle, you lose, more important, the user loses.
[10:19] <svetlana> k1l_: ah. so it's not deprecated but sort of .. phased out .. or whatever the word is meaning it's no longer loved but still works in a limited number of cases. that makes sense, thanks.
[10:19] <k1l_> gogeta: this is the ubuntu support. so we stick to the ubuntu standard. which is _not_startx but starting the dm.
[10:19] <svetlana> gogeta: the new command also makes sure that a dm is running. that's the main difference i can see.
[10:20] <gogeta> k1l_, thats fine but in this case the lightdm command failed anyways
[10:21] <k1l_> gogeta: i already said there are setups where startx makes sense. but not on a regular ubuntu setup. so lets drop that sensless discussion. and even on this particular case startx will not help when lightdm fails.
[10:22] <svetlana> what are the fails?
[10:22] <k1l_> we dont need the "i use linux since 10 years and know some cool hacks" attitude. we want to focus on helping the user getting the regular setup back. which is find why lightdm is failing and repair that.
[10:22] <gogeta> svetlana, yawn
[10:25] <mattt> anyone know how to trigger a udev rule when a network namespace is created ?
[10:26] <Guest42545> Would anybody be able to help me with VirtualBox questions?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !vbox | Guest42545
[10:27] <agent_white> !ask
[10:28] <nosdaemon> Anyone how know way kickstart cant select nic (em49)? I have multiple interface. I try "d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto" and "d-i netcfg/choose_interface select em49"
[10:29] <Guest42545> oh ok. Nobody replied on the previous channel I was. So, I figured to ask it this way. Well I have Oracle VM and ubuntu 14.04 image on it. But for some reason it only shows 1/2 of the display. How do I fix that?
[10:29] <Guest42545> !patience
[10:30] <condor_> hello
[10:31] <Guest42545> !ask
[10:32] <gogeta> Guest42545, try turning off 3d acell if you have it checked,
[10:32] <gogeta> Guest42545, that can make things go oddly
[10:33] <Guest42545> oh ok. I'll take a look at it and get back.
[10:35] <Guest42545> gogeta - where should I look for 3d acell option?
[10:36] <gogeta> Guest42545, under video in machine settings
[10:38] <Guest42545> 3D accel is unticked.
[10:38] <gogeta> Guest42545, i would enable 2d
[10:38] <gogeta> Guest42545, unity needs at least that to run
[10:38] <Guest42545> Oh ok. That is disabled. Let me try enabling it.
[10:39] <Guest42545> Would monitor count make a difference?
[10:39] <Guest42545> I see.
[10:39] <gogeta> Guest42545, just 1
[10:40] <Guest42545> Yep. it is 1. It will not let me enable 2D accel, prompting invalid settings.
[10:41] <gogeta> Guest42545, 2d as invalade odd
[10:42] <Guest42545> yeah. :/
[10:47] <ricard> I installed the kernel software updates 3.16.0-38 wrong?
[10:55] <ricard> I installed the kernel software updates 3.16.0-38 wrong?
[10:56] <k1l> ricard: can you rephrase?
[10:58] <ricard> if you have downloaded the kernel 3.16.0-38 me updates the kernel software is reliable?
[11:00] <k1l> ricard: you made a kernel yourself? or are you talking about the ubuntu packages from the update?
[11:01] <ricard> whether from the software update
[11:06] <ricard> k1l hello
[11:07] <ricard> whether from the software update
[11:07] <k1l> ricard: sorry i dont understand what your problem is.
[11:07] <k1l> ricard: what ubuntu version do you have? "lsb_release -d" and what kernel are you running? "uname -a"
[11:08] <ricard> kernel that is reliable ??
[11:09] <ricard> i have 14.04.2 lts
[11:09] <k1l> ricard: "the latest" ubuntu ships for your version. since you dont want to patch yourself you need the updated kernel versions with security patches.
[11:12] <ricard> not only I have discharged me to make a software upgrade
[11:12] <newke> hi. is there a backslash sequence for right arrow in bash?
[11:17] <flamegeek> hii
[11:18] <ricard> not only I have discharged me to make a software upgrade
[11:18] <ricard> k1l hello
[11:21] <rlweb> Hi
[11:21] <rlweb> Got a problem with iptables-persistent, I've installed it through apt-get but when trying to use it I get this sudo: iptables-persistent: command not found
[11:22] <ricard> hello k1l
[11:22] <ricard> not only I have discharged me to make a software upgrade
[11:23] <someone235> When I do apt-get update I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[11:23] <someone235> someone knows how to fix this?
[11:24] <bazhang> contact the ppa maintainer someone235 , thats their issue and yours
[11:25] <flamegeek> someone ->
[11:25] <flamegeek> You can add a PPA location with the command
[11:25] <flamegeek> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<ppa_name>
[11:26] <flamegeek> this may help u :=:
[11:26] <flamegeek> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/add-apt-repository
[11:26] <Seveas> someone235: that PPA is no longer maintained. Remove it from your config.
[11:28] <ricard> help my k1l
[11:28] <squaregoldfish> ricard: In my experience all the kernel updates for Ubuntu are reliable. Therefore you should always try to have the latest version installed from the repositories. Unless you're having a specific problem?
[11:28] <newke> i want an app which i could bind to keyboard shortcuts to launch specific commands, but prompt for its arguments. is there is one made already?
[11:29] <newke> want to get gtk window, similar as gmrun does
[11:31] <ricard> all is not well thanks
[11:31] <someone235> Seveas, so what ppa should I use instead?
[11:31] <Seveas> someone235: depends on why you used that PPA.
[11:31] <someone235> Seveas, I want to upgrade my kernel
[11:32] <Seveas> why?
[11:32] <squaregoldfish> ricard: OK. What's the specific problem? Maybe someone will be able to help you out.
[11:32] <Seveas> the kernel in the Ubuntu repos works just fine :)
[11:33] <someone235> Seveas, my laptop is heating all the time, and I read that it is related to a problem in linux 3.16
[11:33] <k1l> ricard: i dont understand the problem
[11:33] <k1l> !es | ricard
[11:34] <kevindf> On ubuntu 14.04 I keep getting 2 Failed to fetch 404's as listed in the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/4TSafFvk how can I fix this?
[11:34] <Seveas> someone235: good thing Trusty is on 3.14 then :)
[11:35] <someone235> Seveas, I have 3.16
[11:35] <Seveas> then downgrade to the Ubuntu-provided kernel
[11:35] <ricard> Just knowing any specific problem if the kernel descagado reliable software updates
[11:36] <ricard> no specific problem whether it is reliable only the kernel downloaded software updates
[11:36] <newke> i want to make a keyboard shortcut to google something. Is there an app which could open gtk dialog, ask for an aguments, then launch x-www-browser -u "https://www.google.lt/?gws_rd=cr&ei=E3FcVdfjNem7ygPxyIKYBg#q=" + arguments ive specified?
[11:36] <Ben64> ricard: you keep coming in here asking if kernels are ok. please explain what you're actually trying to do
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !es } ricard,
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !es | ricard,
[11:38] <someone235> Seveas, I read that that problem is from kernel 2.* - 3.16
[11:39] <ricard> I am nothing new to ubuntu and I would like someone confirm me is right next kernel software updates
[11:40] <Seveas> someone235: well, then you should upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04, which has 3.6.19
[11:40] <bazhang> ricard, yes they are
[11:40] <flamegeek> .
[11:40] <squaregoldfish> ricard: Yes, the kernel updates that Ubuntu provides are reliable. You should have no problems with them.
[11:40] <bazhang> !manual | ricard have a read
[11:41] <bazhang> ricard, read the above pdf, for free
[11:41] <bazhang> !rute | ricard and all these links, too
[11:41] <robhol> Are there different ways to schedule stuff than messing with cron? Ideally I'd be able to specify both cron-like "regularly at time X" as well as "in X seconds/minutes/whatever" - preferably programmatically
[11:41] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-manual.org/  <---- ricard go read this
[11:42] <Ben64> cron is what you want for regularly repeating events, you can use "at" to schedule something at now+5 minutes or whatever
[11:42] <Ben64> robhol: ^
[11:42] <someone235> Seveas, If I upgrade via apt-get, it will automatically upgrade my kernel too?
[11:43] <Seveas> !upgrade
[11:43] <k1l> ricard: the automatic kernel updates from ubuntu are reliable.
[11:43] <k1l> ricard: but i dont know what your issue is there
[11:45] <Ben64> k1l: been here for the past 20 hrs asking basically the same question about kernel updates
[11:47] <ricard> thank you all for your responses manually browse
[11:47] <ricard> thank you all for your responses manually browse
[11:48] <ricard> good bay thakyou
[11:50] <TwoIce> Hi. I have two connections (eth0 and wlan0). When the ethernetcable for eth0 is unplugged then i can connect to my machine from a remote mache by SSH to the wlan0 IP. When eth0 is connected, then i cannot SSH to the wlan0 IP. Can anyone help me understand/fix this?
[11:51] <TwoIce> eth0 is behind NAT, so i can never SSH to the eth0 IP (that's why i need to SSH to wlan0)
[11:54] <Seveas> TwoIce: when both wifi and wired are connected, Ubuntu sets the default gateway to the wired connection.
[11:55] <TwoIce> So even incomming connections does not work? Or is SSHD response sent through eth0 and that's why it fails?
[11:55] <Seveas> so make sure you add a route to the machine you're connecting from via the wifi interface
[11:55] <Seveas> sshd's response is indeed sent throught eth0
[11:56] <azizLIGHT> to make space on /boot partition, i have to do sudo apt-get autoremove linux-headers-3.13.0-37, sudo apt-get autoremove linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic, sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic, sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-37-generic, sudo apt-get autoremove linux-signed-image-3.13.0-37-generic?
[11:56] <azizLIGHT> or is that too much
[11:56] <azizLIGHT> assuming 3.13.0-37 is my second, not first ever, or current (latest kernel running)
[11:56] <k1l> azizLIGHT: you can do a "sudo apt-get remove package1 package2 package3 package4..."
[11:57] <k1l> azizLIGHT: please pastebin a "dpkg -l |grep linux-image"
[11:57] <Seveas> it's slightly wrong. 1) use remove --purge, not autoremove and 2) non need to wipe headers packages, they're not in /boot
[11:57] <TwoIce> Seveas: Ok. Is there a way to tell SSHD to respond to the same interface as the connection comes from? Because i want to be able to SSH from local machines to the eth0 interface
[11:57] <Flo_K> hello
[11:57] <azizLIGHT> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11243596/
[11:58] <Seveas> TwoIce: that's not sshd-specific, and no you can't. But you can add routes saying 'packets to this IP/network go out via the wlan0 gateway, not the eth0 gateway'
[11:58] <k1l> Seveas: well, if he removes the linux images there is no need for headers anyway, even if the are not stored in /boot
[11:58] <Seveas> k1l: true
[11:58] <k1l> azizLIGHT: "uname -a" gives you what? you can copy the one line to here
[11:58] <azizLIGHT> so you dont remove headers then. do you remove linux-signed-image-* or linux-image-*-generic besides linux-image-*?
[11:59] <azizLIGHT> Linux fractal 3.13.0-52-generic #86-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 4 04:32:59 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:59] <azizLIGHT> i want to keep the very first one
[11:59] <k1l> azizLIGHT: ok so the 3.13.0-52 is the kernel you use now. so at least keep that.
[11:59] <azizLIGHT> and the current, and 2nd current
[11:59] <Seveas> here's my oneliner to remove obsolete kernel packages: dpkg -P $( dpkg -l linux-{image,headers}*-3* | awk '/ii/{ if ( $2 !~ "'$(uname -r | sed -e 's/-[a-z]*$//')'" ) print $2 }' )
[11:59] <TwoIce> Seveas: So if i do not know from where i will connect (except that i know it's not local), then i need to set the wlan0 as the default gateway?
[11:59] <azizLIGHT> so -32, -51, and -52. i wanna keep
[12:00] <k1l> for having the recovery option you will at least need a second kernel to boot.
[12:00] <azizLIGHT> ill have recovery, if i keep those 3 right?
[12:00] <TwoIce> wlan0 is slow, so i would like to have eth0 as the default gateway if possible
[12:00] <Seveas> TwoIce: that's another option, but that will affect traffic to/from eth0 that's not in the same broadcast domain.
[12:00] <k1l> the rest packages could be removed using "sudo apt-get remove linux-image..."
[12:01] <k1l> azizLIGHT: you only have the ones installed that have "ii" at the start of the line
[12:01] <azizLIGHT> oh
[12:01] <k1l> azizLIGHT: so the oldest kernel is the -37 one.
[12:01] <azizLIGHT> so then i want to keep -37, -51 and -52
[12:01] <azizLIGHT> and make space by deleting the other ones
[12:01] <azizLIGHT> what command do i run for that
[12:02] <k1l> azizLIGHT: so then copy and paste the packages from linux-image and linux-image-extra from the versions you dont want to have anymore to the command: "sudo apt-get remove package1 package2.."
[12:02] <azizLIGHT> like do i have to purge the headers, the linux-signed-image-*, the linux-headers-* as well as the -generic packages
[12:02] <k1l> azizLIGHT: just start with the linux-image-.... and linux-image-extra... package you see in that pastebin
[12:02] <azizLIGHT> or does removing one, remove all the other associated ones as well
[12:03] <TwoIce> Seveas:I think i will go for a virtual machine that use wlan0 and then SSH from there to the host. Great thanks for your help!
[12:03] <dubey> Hi
[12:04] <dubey> I am unable to install salt packages even after adding repository
[12:04] <azizLIGHT> first command: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic
[12:04] <dubey> I ran "add-apt-repository ppa:saltstack/salt" then did "apt-get update"
[12:05] <dubey> then if i do apt-cache search salt-xyz it show nothing
[12:05] <k1l> azizLIGHT: actually the linux-image-extra might get removed automatically afterwards if you remove the regular linux-image... but doesnt hurt to give that
[12:05] <hplc> i wanted to see what version of glibc i had, and tried apt-show-versions, but it said it doesnt exist, does ubuntu run without it?
[12:06] <k1l> azizLIGHT: yes. you even can list more than 2 packages
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> does this command look ok
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic linux-image-3.13.0-48-generic linux-image-3.13.0-49-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-46-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-48-generic
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> linux-image-extra-3.13.0-49-generic
[12:07] <dubey> what could be the reason ?
[12:07] <Number5> Hello guys, my son is 9 years old and intelligent enough to solve math problems at school.  A nice thing is playing with netcat and wget to scrape pictures of his school's website. I was also thinking of eSpeak to say thing from text or when an event occurs. Does anyone know a nice project of site to learn such funny things?
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> dubey: sometimes they name the package something different in the ppa?
[12:08] <alive> Number5: Raspberry PI has a lot of good resources for learning Python
[12:08] <k1l> azizLIGHT: give it a go
[12:08] <azizLIGHT> wish me luck
[12:08] <dubey> azizLIGHT- as per the doc, package name is same
[12:09] <alive> Number5: It also includes a lot of resources for hardware hacking and the like
[12:09] <Number5> alive, hahaha I already used that with Kodi :P
[12:09] <dubey> http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/installation/ubuntu.html
[12:09] <azizLIGHT> k1l: how come i dont have to remove the headers?
[12:10] <k1l> azizLIGHT: after that you can list the installed header packages "dpkg -l | grep headers" and remove them to. while the dont block /boot but they block space on the regular harddisk and are not needed anymore anyway
[12:10] <Number5> alive, I want to begin easy with a small laptop epic 901. So things don't get overwhelming for him. But Maybe I'll buy another RPi :)
[12:10] <k1l> azizLIGHT: step by step :)
[12:10] <azizLIGHT> ah :)
[12:10] <Number5> epic = eeepc
[12:11]  * k1l needs to leave for lunch
[12:11] <azizLIGHT> k1l: i love u
[12:11] <azizLIGHT> i want to buy you coffee
[12:11] <bazhang> !eeepc
[12:12] <SkyRocknRoll> !ubuntu
[12:12] <SkyRocknRoll> !ls
[12:12] <SkyRocknRoll> !god
[12:12] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu SkyRocknRoll
[12:13] <SkyRocknRoll> hi bazhang
[12:13] <RoBo_V> !netcat
[12:13] <SkyRocknRoll> !nc
[12:13] <bazhang> SkyRocknRoll, use /msg ubottu for that
[12:14] <RoBo_V> !df
[12:14] <azizLIGHT> RoBo_V: pls /msg ubottu in private
[12:14] <bazhang> RoBo_V, /msg ubottu
[12:15] <RoBo_V> was just testing, nvm
[12:17] <SkyRocknRoll> bazhang, thanks
[12:17] <m1dnight_> Guys, Im trying to set the album disk number on an id3 tag using id3v2 tool. However, the manpage nowhere mentions how I can do this.
[12:17] <lxz> 进来 了吗？
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !cn | lxz
[12:18] <m1dnight_> However, the spec shows that it is possible:http://id3.org/id3v2.3.0
[12:18] <dream> chrom not flash
[12:20] <azizLIGHT> OK I can boot normally and also boot into recovery mode as well on -52 kernel
[12:22] <Luyin> question concerning diff: diff has the option --suppress-common-lines. that is not marked as a standard setting. but it is the standard setting, right?
[12:28] <vbgunz> what is the official ubuntu distro that does not include a desktop and supports uefi out of the box?
[12:28] <zxc> Hello, can someone tell me how to has updated video drivers on ubuntu 14.04
[12:28] <vbgunz> zxc: do you have a newer nvidia card that does not have an option in the driver manager?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> vbgunz  sounds like ubuntu-derver to me
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> vbgunz  sounds like ubuntu-server to me
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !server | vbgunz
[12:29] <zxc> vbgunz, I have an Intel
[12:30] <vbgunz> hmm, I was thinking about using the server to then add a desktop but I don't really want any extra "server" stuff (if that's included out of the box).
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> vbgunz  what exactly do you want? a minimal server setup?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> or a desktop ubuntu without GUI?
[12:32] <vbgunz> I want a fresh LXQt setup. Lubuntu 15.04 I do not believe has LXQt, I find in 15.04 they're "preparing" for it
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> vbgunz  the ubuntu link in lxqt.org redirects to lxde, tho
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> make that, to daily builds for lubuntu
[12:35] <vbgunz> for me I don't see that, it's just a ppa
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> vbgunz  then that's what it is
[12:36] <juken> Does anyone have experience with the Dell D5000 wireless docking station that uses WiGig? I'm curious if it'll work on Ubuntu before I order it. Google results don't show much in terms of anyone having an actual answer.
[12:36] <vbgunz> I already installed lxqt and like it but am coming from a desktop that has years of stuff on it (tons of apps). I want to try it out by itself, I'd like to try and install it on another disk but looks like I'll need something without a de, the server installation I've done many times but never thought about adding a de to the server
[12:41] <azizLIGHT> I did apt-get purge for a bunch of old kernels, and rebooted and everything was OK. But I rebooted to dual boot to Windows 8 and then rebooted to ubuntu and now it's not working. Stuck at loading ramdisk. Please help
[12:44] <gal> halo
[12:45] <zxc> Hello, can someone tell me how to has updated video drivers on ubuntu 14.04
[12:45] <EriC^^> zxc: open the dash and type drivers
[12:46] <yolo> halo
[12:48] <zxc> any open , try again?
[12:48] <EriC^^> zxc: type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:48] <EriC^^> and paste the link here
[12:50] <zxc> brokenpipeerror
[12:51] <EriC^^> zxc: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:51] <EriC^^> zxc: then type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | pastebinit
[12:53] <dubey> how to restore souce.list for ubuntu 10.04?
[12:53] <zxc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11244352/
[12:53] <EriC^^> dubey: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[12:54] <cfhowlett> dubey, 10.04?  WAY past end of life
[12:54] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11244352/
[12:55] <EriC^^> zxc: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | pastebinit
[12:55] <EriC^^> dubey: is it a server edition?
[12:56] <EriC^^> oh, i think support ended for that recently
[12:56] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11244364/
[12:56] <EriC^^> zxc: ok, you're using the opensource driver right now, do you want to use fglrx or fglrx-updates ?
[12:57] <EriC^^> those are proprietary drivers, you'll have opencl and stuff but the laptop might run hotter
[12:58] <zxc> EriC^^, Which is better
[12:58] <EriC^^> i don't know really, i've used fglrx-updates and it ran a bit hotter, and fglrx as well
[12:58] <EriC^^> i'm not sure if fglrx runs slightly cooler, i'm not sure
[13:01] <zxc> EriC^^, I want to play and there dota2 my graph is terrible , also play CS 1.6 there graph is perfect for OpenGL , so ask how has updated drivers ?
[13:02] <zxc> after it has updated those you tell me something you can change in one game or a bad thing to happen to my laptop ?
[13:03] <EriC^^> zxc: i don't think something bad will happen to the laptop, i dont know a lot about gaming and graphics settings though
[13:04] <EriC^^> zxc: if you want to change the graphics driver, type sudo apt-get install fglrx
[13:05] <zxc> fglrx is better?
[13:05] <EriC^^> zxc: if you want to try the fglrx-updates later, type sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[13:05] <EriC^^> zxc: try them both and see which one you like better
[13:07] <Hazed> hi all.  does anyone know how i can get ubuntu 15.04 to detect n9700 mtk6582 android 4.4.2 phone.  ive connected it to usb but it hasnt detected it?
[13:07] <EriC^^> zxc: i think the fglrx runs a bit cooler, not sure about these stuff
[13:07] <pastmaster> I installed Trusty on a work PC, but for some reason it's not syncing the system time with the internet time, despite having selected the option.  How do you configure a system to only boot into text-console, not start gdm etc.? I have a compute machine with 3 NVidia cards, and things go a bit wrong when it tries to start X on those.
[13:15] <EriC^^> zxc: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati
[13:15] <EriC^^> Peanut: permanently or just for one boot?
[13:15] <Peanut> EriC^^: forever, please - there's not even a video connector on these graphics cards.
[13:16] <Peanut> So it's now trying to start X like every 10 seconds and failing.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:16] <EriC^^> Peanut: ok, sudo nano /etc/default/grub , after quiet splash add 'text'
[13:16] <EriC^^> Peanut: then save and exit, and sudo update-grub
[13:17] <Peanut> Eric: thanks. Anyway to stop it for now without a reboot?
[13:17] <zxc> EriC^^, i try fglrx-updates :d
[13:17] <Craigwell> what is up with firefox anyway. Why is it such a slug?
[13:17] <Craigwell> 2 gb ram, dual core, but with a few tabs open it's like I'm using a 286
[13:17] <EriC^^> Peanut: what do you mean?
[13:17] <cyberpolice> what should i do :(
[13:18] <EriC^^> Peanut: you don't need to reboot for those changes to take effect
[13:18] <Peanut> As in, how can I stop the system from trying to start X every 10 seconds, without a reboot?
[13:18] <Peanut> EriC^^: Sure, if you edit the kernel parameters in grub, they will only take effect after a reboot.
[13:18] <EriC^^> Peanut: hmm, sudo service lightdm stop
[13:19] <Craigwell> what is this "plugin container" that always seems to drag it down?
[13:19] <EriC^^> Peanut: they'll be saved, but it will boot according to them next time
[13:19] <cyberpolice> its flash Craigwell
[13:19] <EriC^^> Peanut: or maybe sudo service gdm stop
[13:20] <EriC^^> if you're using gnome
[13:20] <Craigwell> is there a way for it to be handled better  ? Are you guys using chrome or something?
[13:20] <Craigwell> i don't exactly play flash games.
[13:20] <cyberpolice> Craigwell: try using one of those flashblocking extensions, and then allow loading of flash on a case by case basis per site
[13:21] <Craigwell> interesting. Thanks cyberpolice
[13:21] <cyberpolice> a lot of websites use flash, whether if its ads, or some kind of invisible helper object
[13:21] <Peanut> Craigwell: I've removed Flash ages ago. Youtube video works fine most days without it, and more and more sites are dropping it at the server side.
[13:21] <cyberpolice> doesnt have to be games, Craigwell
[13:21] <zxc> EriC^^, ready, probably need to do a restart to take effect ?
[13:21] <Craigwell> yeah it must be advertising
[13:21] <EriC^^> zxc: yeah
[13:21] <zxc> ok, brb
[13:21] <cyberpolice> Craigwell: you could also use an adblocker like adblock plus or ublock?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> adblock plus +1
[13:22] <cyberpolice> anyone wanna help me figure out how to troubleshoot my boot problem
[13:22] <Craigwell> i'll check that out
[13:22] <cyberpolice> ublock is better than adblock plus imo
[13:22] <cyberpolice> less resource intensive
[13:22] <Craigwell> ahh
[13:22] <cyberpolice> that would suit you better Craigwell
[13:23] <Craigwell> i see tons of instances of adblock, but not ublock in the addon search
[13:24] <Craigwell> this is for firefox, correct?
[13:24] <Craigwell> ahh nm lol found it
[13:25] <cyberpolice> it uses the same sources as adblock plus
[13:25] <Craigwell> done. thank you cyberpolice
[13:25] <cyberpolice> only faster
[13:25] <Craigwell> yeah i just had to search for it externally
[13:26] <cyberpolice> firefox should behave a bit better now
[13:26] <cyberpolice> are you running any other extensions
[13:26] <Craigwell> in other news, software updater seems to have hung while it was configuring grub-pc . uh oh. I see boot disk in my near future haha
[13:26] <Craigwell> cyberpolice: a few minor ones
[13:27] <Craigwell> nothing else related to that
[13:27] <Craigwell> ubuntu related ones that preconfigured, an outlook button, and rss feeder
[13:28] <Craigwell> feedly. they never seem to present issues
[13:28] <Craigwell> typically when it bogged down, i found the plugin container hogging cpu - so I guess it was inadvertant flash on sites i'd visit researching various things
[13:29] <cyberpolice> also try out that flash block extension. i forget what its called
[13:30] <cyberpolice> Craigwell: its probably this one https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flashblock/
[13:30] <cyberpolice> youd have to whitelist the sites you want it to work on, and if some website isnt working properly, might want to enable it there as well
[13:30] <zxc> EriC^^, there is little difference in my laptop .. works - slowly ?
[13:30] <Craigwell> ok
[13:31] <EriC^^> zxc: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | pastebinit
[13:32] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11244977/
[13:32] <EriC^^> zxc: ok it's using the graphics driver
[13:32] <EriC^^> zxc: open the dash and type amd
[13:32] <EriC^^> or ccc
[13:32] <Craigwell> gross
[13:33] <Craigwell> i forced quit on software updater when it was hung for over 10 minutes
[13:33] <Craigwell> restarted it now, and it's stuck on "resolving dependencies" . Wonder what I broke there
[13:34] <Craigwell> trying terminal route now
[13:34] <zxc> EriC^^, dash? terminal?
[13:36] <Craigwell> it might be first time it's run since cloning. Hoping no gremlins there. still fighting with ntfs partition on that score. argh
[13:36] <zxc> EriC^^, when I change my windows crashes and remain shadows of previous window ?
[13:37] <EriC^^> zxc: no, in the dash (first icon in the launcher)
[13:37] <EriC^^> zxc: which did you install? fglrx-updates?
[13:38] <zxc> ok
[13:38] <zxc> i open the dash
[13:38] <zxc> and i write the amd
[13:38] <EriC^^> zxc: ok, type amd or ccc and open amdcccle
[13:40] <zxc> EriC^^, ok, and now?
[13:41] <EriC^^> zxc: open a terminal and type uname -r and paste here
[13:41] <zxc> EriC^^, 3.16.0-38-generic
[13:41] <EriC^^> zxc: you can configure stuff in amdcccle, not sure how much that will help though
[13:42] <Craigwell> man this thing sure is faster with the wd black drive
[13:43] <maxwell_> anybody  ?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> maxwell_, ?
[13:44] <Craigwell> ooook. Since cloning, I restored grub sucessfully myself,
[13:45] <Craigwell> (with exception of win7/ntfs partition which wont boot, but that's another battle)
[13:45] <heeen> I have a usb drive that I boot ubuntu from on my macbook air.
[13:45] <Craigwell> now, apt-get update wants to run grub config
[13:45] <Craigwell> and i'm not sure how to handle it
[13:45] <heeen> I used gparted to resize the boot partition and now it does not show up in the boot volume select menu
[13:45] <heeen> how can I fix this
[13:45] <Craigwell> heeen : ext4?
[13:45] <heeen> yes
[13:46] <Craigwell> the partition is on the usb drive?
[13:46] <heeen> yes
[13:46] <heeen> I installed the mac iso on that drive before and that worked
[13:46] <Craigwell> did you try gparted ->right click on partition->"check" ?
[13:46] <zxc> EriC^^, I think back to your old drivers ?
[13:46] <someone235> Hi, I'm using ubuntu and want to boot from usb, but doesn't succedd
[13:46] <EriC^^> zxc: did you install fglrx-updates or fglrx?
[13:46] <zxc> EriC^^, or first try and others?
[13:47] <someone235> can anyone help my with this?
[13:47] <zxc> EriC^^, fglrx
[13:47] <EriC^^> zxc: you can try fglrx-updates if you want
[13:47] <Craigwell> someone235: can you select the usb from a boot menu when you start the pc?
[13:47] <heeen> Craigwell: I don't think it has errors, it got checked after the resize
[13:47] <EriC^^> zxc: are you sure the pc has enough ram and not using the cpu too much somehow?
[13:47] <someone235> Craigwell, I don't have any boot menu
[13:47] <Craigwell> someone235: or go into bios and select boot order?
[13:48] <Craigwell> someone235: have you sucessfully booted that machine from a usb before?
[13:48] <Craigwell> heeen: have you tried to repair grub?
[13:48] <EriC^^> zxc: type ps aux | sort -k 3 | tail | pastebinit
[13:48] <someone235> Craigwell, When I've installed the ubuntu before  years
[13:48] <EriC^^> zxc: and free -m | pastebinit
[13:48] <someone235> 2 years
[13:48] <heeen> Craigwell: I'm not sure if it even uses grub? can I repair it from a machine that does not have EFI?
[13:49] <Craigwell> heeen: try using a liveusb to boot, and then repair grub or boot-repair to see if you can repair the install on your usb drive. You may not have used grub before with it i realize, but it might fix it. Boot-repair even better, perhaps
[13:49] <heeen> gparted says it does not have the boot flag set - does it need that flag?
[13:49] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11245196/
[13:49] <Craigwell> heeen: yes it does
[13:49] <Craigwell> heeen: can you mount the filesystem fine?
[13:49] <heeen> yeah
[13:50] <blue403> does anyone know whether prctl(PR_SET_PDEATHSIG..)  is inherited by execv images?
[13:50] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11245204/
[13:50] <Craigwell> heeen: yeah you don't have big issues there, try setting boot flag
[13:50] <heeen> Craigwell: which other flags does it need
[13:50] <heeen> why did gparted remove the boot flag after resizing...
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> blue403  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what brings you here
[13:50] <beasttribe> The money
[13:51] <beasttribe> money money money money moneyyyyyyyyyy
[13:51] <Craigwell> someone235: you might need to try another thumbdrive / usb drive. otherwise, see if you can press f12 or similar to make a boot menu appear after the initial pc splash screen
[13:51] <Craigwell> heeen: boot-repair might be the best option for you. you still need to run a liveusb to do it
[13:51] <heeen> alright
[13:52] <someone235> Craigwell, I don't have splash screen
[13:52] <blue403> beasttribe: MOOONKEY!
[13:52] <Craigwell> someone235: i simply mean when you first start the system
[13:52] <beasttribe> Anyone have any problems with winwrap, the gif program that lets you set your background as a gif?
[13:52] <someone235> Craigwell, let me try this
[13:53] <cfhowlett> blue403, beasttribe this is ubuntu support. please stay on topic or go play elsewhere
[13:53] <blue403> :3
[13:53] <Craigwell> heeen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:53] <beasttribe> :3
[13:53] <Craigwell> someone235: what is your system?
[13:54] <zxc> EriC^^, i install fglrx-updates right now
[13:54] <heeen> how come theres no separate image for mac anymore
[13:54] <EriC^^> zxc: ok
[13:54] <someone235> Craigwell, xubuntu 14.04
[13:54] <EriC^^> zxc: the memory consumption is pretty huge, 5.7gb after a reboot
[13:55] <Craigwell> someone235: i mean hardware
[13:55] <cfhowlett> heeen, no need.  64 bit/amd .iso works natively on mac
[13:55] <Craigwell> dell? hp ? etc
[13:55] <someone235> Craigwell, dell i5
[13:55] <zxc> EriC^^, ?
[13:55] <heeen> cfhowlett: does it come with all the efi magic now?
[13:55] <Craigwell> my dell uses f12 for boot menu at startup
[13:55] <Craigwell> d and e series latitude laptios
[13:56] <Craigwell> laptops
[13:56] <cfhowlett> heeen, it does
[13:56] <zxc> brb, restart
[13:57] <someone235> brb too
[13:57] <heeen> I can just dd the iso to a usb device, right?
[13:57] <Craigwell> well since my grub decided it wanted to reconfigure after a apt-get update (post cloning) I suppose I'll reboot myself and see what it did for me. Looks like it found several old kernals. Hope it didn't decide to make them all menu entries lol
[13:57] <Craigwell> brb
[13:57] <cfhowlett> heeen, that's one way
[13:58] <maxwell_> 然而并不能看懂英文。
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !cn | maxwell_
[14:00] <Craigwell> well that was anticlimatic
[14:00] <Craigwell> no change lol
[14:00] <Craigwell> win7 still wont boot either lol .. pos
[14:01] <cfhowlett> suggestion to !ops: add ubuntukylin to the !cn factoid  ?
[14:01] <Craigwell> ubotto: what's up
[14:01] <Craigwell> ubottu: what's up
[14:02] <Craigwell> meh
[14:02] <zxc> EriC^^, the same job ..
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Craigwell, fix win7 with an win7 repair boot, then reinstall grub
[14:02] <Craigwell> cfhowlett: I was using bootrec.exe with options off win liveusb, no dice.
[14:02] <zxc> EriC^^, how i can back old drivers
[14:03] <Craigwell> I just stumbled onto a guide about bootsect.exe though, so it might be the ticket
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Craigwell, best ask ##windows
[14:03] <EriC^^> zxc: sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[14:03] <Craigwell> i got distracted because that guide came on a site with a bunch of flash haha
[14:03] <EriC^^> zxc: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati
[14:03] <Craigwell> cfhowlett: for sure, I am in there too. Not so helpful at the moment. All good. I'll keep that discussion out of here. Thank you
[14:04] <Mega1> i think some got into my server
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !server | Mega1
[14:06] <akenobis> Mi date il canale italiano di ubuntu
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> !it
[14:08] <EriC^^> zxc: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[14:09] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11245482/
[14:09] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11245485/
[14:09] <Craigwell> i love how ubottu responds when different languages pop up lol.. smart thinking there
[14:10] <EriC^^> zxc: try sudo apt-get purge libcheese*
[14:10] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[14:11] <[Ex0r]> Hello. Is it possible to make an in-place symbolic link? For example, if I have two directories, but I want them to appear as one, can I do that? (Both directories have different contents, but I want them to appear to be the same directory with the same contents)
[14:11] <tytan> can if format a USB thumbdrive in exfat with ubuntu?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> tytan, yes
[14:15] <tytan> cfhowlett: Can you give me a hint how to do that, please? =)
[14:15] <cfhowlett> tytan, start gparted.  select your usb device.  partition
[14:15] <zxc> EriC^^, ok.. restart now? again?
[14:15] <EriC^^> zxc: all good?
[14:15] <zxc> yea
[14:16] <tytan> cfhowlett: there is  no exfat option
[14:16] <EriC^^> did you do sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[14:16] <zxc> no
[14:17] <EriC^^> tytan: sudo apt-get install exfat-utils
[14:17] <EriC^^> tytan: and sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse
[14:17] <zxc> EriC^^, already , now restart ?
[14:17] <EriC^^> zxc: yeah
[14:18] <zxc> ok brb
[14:18] <tytan> EriC^^: I already installed exfat-fuse but not exfat-utils. I'm trying that out now ^^
[14:21] <zxc> EriC^^, well done
[14:22] <zxc> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11245686/
[14:22] <EriC^^> zxc: great
[14:23] <[Ex0r]> mhddfs anyone heard of this?
[14:23] <tytan> EriC^^: I get an exfat option in gparted now. But it's grey and unclickable :D
[14:23] <zxc> EriC^^, maybe my laptop does not support other drivers
[14:24] <EriC^^> zxc: i dont think so
[14:24] <rhumbot> hi all, my admin installed ubuntu for me and placed the home directory on a separate hard drive. I would like to get it on the hard drive where the system is installed ...
[14:24] <EriC^^> zxc: it's another problem, i have the same graphics card and fglrx runs ok, just hotter
[14:24] <rhumbot> how would I proceed=
[14:25] <tytan> rhumbot: Have you tried creating it manually in / and reboot?
[14:26] <somsip> !home | rhumbot (I think there is a link here about separate homes'
[14:26] <somsip> rhumbot: so you'd do the reverse of that ^^
[14:26] <EriC^^> tytan: try doing it from the command line utils maybe
[14:27] <tytan> EriC^^: I have no idea how to format a driver in terminal ... yet ^^
[14:27] <tytan> *drive
[14:27] <EriC^^> is there a mkfs.exfat ?
[14:27] <EriC^^> try typing mkfs and press <tab> a few times
[14:28] <tytan> EriC^^: mkexfatfs 1.0.1 there is
[14:28] <EriC^^> ok, i guess that's it
[14:29] <AlexPortable> Is there any way I can use the terminal to login 2 users at the same time, but then on another system?
[14:29] <AlexPortable> And with a GUI
[14:29] <EriC^^> tytan: type sudo parted -l
[14:29] <glopez-mx> ls
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  maybe with ssh to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:30] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: and how will that connect to another system?
[14:30] <AlexPortable> I mean something like RDP, but then logging in as another user, and the graphics are being handled by the client
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  guess i'm misunderstanding something...
[14:32] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: system1, normal pc with one monitor (can't put another gpu because laptop). system2, acts as a thin client, connects to system1 and handles all the GUI Graphics locally (not over the network)
[14:35] <rhumbot> what does the original mount point of home look like? :/
[14:36] <somsip> rhumbot: /home/{username}
[14:36] <[Ex0r]> it looks like /home/
[14:36] <`hypermist`> Sorry for spam guise
[14:37] <tokam> Which software can I use to visualize measured values?
[14:37] <somsip> tokam: explain more
[14:38] <heeen> I don't get this
[14:38] <heeen> I reinstalled ubuntu on that usb drive
[14:38] <tokam> I have a table with measurements. I like to create a graphic for my thesis
[14:38] <somsip> !info gnuplot | tokam
[14:38] <heeen> sdc1 as ext4 on / and sdc2 as ext4 on /home
[14:38] <rhumbot> I was actually looking for the enttry in fstab ...
[14:39] <heeen> but it still does not show up in the mac boot menu
[14:39] <tokam> It's a head tracker which I evaluated with 6 DOF. Currently I have in my mind to visualize a graph for every DOF with the difference of exepected and computed value
[14:39] <rhumbot> Since I am trying to reverse the Home/Moving guide ... I dont know what the original values are supposed to look like when home is on the same partition
[14:40] <tokam> I like to enter x;y value pairs and visualize it as a function.
[14:40] <tokam> or bar-diagram
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> tokam  try desmos.com
[14:40] <anil__> hi
[14:40] <anil__> anyone help me
[14:41] <somsip> !details | anil__
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> anil__  start with a question
[14:42] <harushimo> does anyone here understand how to setup maas
[14:42] <anil__> ok thank you..i am using dual boot in my system.. idont remeber exact file name but i remebered where i saved in windows how can i open it in ubuntu?
[14:42] <harushimo> I know this is available on the server version. I was wondering if anyone has on done it here
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> harushimo  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:43] <harushimo> i'll wait someone in there
[14:43] <harushimo> thanks
[14:44] <anil__> i mean file..
[14:44] <anil__> anyone know how to open?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> anil__  guess you simply mount the windows partition and then open the file you want
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> anil__  if linux has an app that can handle it
[14:45] <anil__> cant i findout file by using interface?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> anil__  you can, after the windows partition is mounted