[04:04] <syockit> Crayboff: then can you ctrl-c the grep and repeat without i. that is: grep -R instead of grep -iR
[04:04] <Borgir> Scunizi.. I will look for "quiet splash" in the line that appears when pressing F6. Then delete those 2 words?
[04:04] <evon> NFischer: i don't know how to edit fstab. that file is confusing to me
[04:04] <redvamp128> Troy1:  but you have to be in windows to configure it /edit the boot.ini
[04:05] <Scunizi> Borgir: yes
[04:05] <Borgir> Ok.. brb
[04:05] <NFischer> evon you have to do some work on your own... http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[04:05] <Troy1> honestly i am feel i will screw that wingrub process up
[04:05] <NFischer> evon please try gogole first
[04:05] <Troy1> playing with HD s scary for me
[04:05] <Troy1> i just speant all last night getting my windows all back to normal
[04:05] <underdog7> NFischer, i would like to associate a certain program with a certain type of file, such that i don't have to right click on the file and choose what program i want -- i want it automatic.
[04:06] <RussM> hlm, "invisible"?
[04:06] <Troy1> even though i do like linux
[04:06] <wolter> how do i get my computer (192.168.1.xxx) recognized as http://wolter-laptop on any network i connect to?
[04:06] <Crayboff> Troy1: it works for me, well i used wubi to install
[04:06] <evon> NFischer: i did otherwise I would not be here. I don't understand how to input lines into the fstab. I'm also trying to mount another linux partion as well. not just windows. I don't want to have to go through nautilus everytime i want something mounted
[04:06] <Pengu1> underdog, right click the file, hit properties, then hit 'open with' and hit close. it will associate with that program from then on.
[04:06] <hlm> RussM, it was started in a terminal, its no in sysmon and I closed the terminal and its still running
[04:06] <NFischer> underdog7 ah i see... right clock > properties > open with
[04:06] <Troy1> yeah wubi looks like an easier method for newbie like me
[04:07] <RussM> hlm, If you open another terminal, and type "ps -elf", do you see it there?
[04:07] <Troy1> all the chain load and map and Hd) stuff gets confusing for me
[04:07] <Crayboff> Troy1: it is,seeing how i'm a newbie myself, but it's caused some problems for me
[04:07] <underdog7> ahh, thanks NFischer.  that's actually what redvamp128 was telling me.  thanks to you both.  much appreciated.
[04:07] <Crayboff> aaa, syockit you said i can't close tail, right?
[04:08] <syockit> Crayboff: yes you can
[04:08] <Troy1> oh how did wubi fail for you
[04:08] <syockit> Crayboff: ctrl-c it
[04:08] <hlm> RussM, I cant decipher what that is saying
[04:08] <Pengu1> the only downside to Wubi is the inability to hibernate
[04:08] <Crayboff> syockit: umm i closed it before you said ctrl-c it
[04:08] <illumin8> Guys i borked my grub install on my ubuntu partion when i installed fedora 10 to another partion, is there a way to fix it from the live install?
[04:08] <syockit> Crayboff: okay then
[04:08] <RussM> hlm, What process is it? It's possible it started some other process, so it is showing up under a different name.
[04:08] <sebsebseb> wubi I woudn't recommend it
[04:08] <Pengu1> You want to restore grub, illumin8?
[04:08] <sebsebseb> wubit is for noobs that can't partition
[04:09] <sebsebseb> partitions are the best
[04:09] <Troy1> Hibernate, meaning just during installion process ?
[04:09] <illumin8> I want to have grub be my primary bootloader yes
[04:09] <danbhfive> illumin8: does fedora use grub? or lilo?
[04:09] <Troy1> not sure what they meant by that  ?
[04:09] <Pengu1> illumin8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[04:09] <hlm> RussM, will you promise to continue to help me?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: hardly any distros use lilo
[04:09] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: by default
[04:09] <sebsebseb> so Grub
[04:09] <sebsebseb> yeah
[04:09] <Crayboff> syockit: i got back like 30% of my cpu by closing it :)
[04:09] <Pengu1> Troy1, hibernate is a feature that saves your ram to your hard drive, so when you reboot your desktop is exactly as you'd left it
[04:09] <danbhfive> sebsebseb: hehe, ok
[04:09] <hlm> RussM, its metasploit framework web UI
[04:10] <sebsebseb> and  Fedora Core 2 and 4 were my first Linux distros, and yes they used Grub
[04:10] <madagascar27> when you delete a partition where does the disk space go to
[04:10] <wolter> madagascar27, unallocated
[04:10] <madagascar27> wolter: ?
[04:10] <RussM> hlm, Well, I've never run metasploit, so unfortunately that doesn't give me any insight.
[04:10] <danbhfive> illumin8: is it that ubuntu is just not listed in the grub menu?
[04:10] <syockit> Crayboff: have you restarted the grep?
[04:10] <Scunizi> madagascar27: unassigned and unavailable until you reassign it
[04:10] <sebsebseb> madagascar27: if you just delete a partition it is really still there,  untill being overwritten, it's just not in the partition table
[04:10] <wolter> to wherever it was, but it has nothing, nor is it formatted.
[04:10] <Pengu1> The disk space is cleared, madagascar27, e.g., 'unallocated'
[04:10] <Troy1> not quite sre what you meant by that
[04:11] <Troy1>  hibernate is a feature that saves your ram to your hard drive, so when you reboot your desktop is exactly as you'd left it
[04:11] <madagascar27> how can i take that parition and add the space to an existing spot
[04:11] <wolter> NICEE
[04:11] <sebsebseb> wolter: oh it's you
[04:11] <Crayboff> syockit: didn't know you wanted me to restart it
[04:11] <Troy1> swap space ?
[04:11] <Pengu1> Troy1, if your were running a program or watching a video, you could reboot and the program would still be running.
[04:11] <Crayboff> syockit: i'll do it, you want it without the -i, right?
[04:11] <illumin8> Im sorry if im not responding to your messages, they appear bright yellow to me so very hard to read. What happend was i have 7 Oses installed on the machine, recently i put fedora 10 in and it failed to load the other Oses on boot, so I would prefer to use Ubuntu's since its most reliable
[04:11] <wolter> http://<computer name>.local
[04:11] <sebsebseb> wolter:  the one from my MSN?
[04:11] <wolter> hey sebsebseb
[04:11] <wolter> yeah..
[04:11] <wolter> haha
[04:11] <FloodBot2> wolter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <idris> how can i get amsn on ubuntu
[04:11] <sebsebseb> don't use wubi
[04:12] <illumin8> I did what that post said, so hopefully that will resolve it. Brb :)
[04:12] <idris> ?????
[04:12] <sebsebseb> idris: I already told you the command way
[04:12] <nishshanka_> hi all
[04:12] <wolter> sebsebseb,  i setup ftp server and everyone on network can access it by entering ftp://wolter-laptop.local/ =DD
[04:12] <Troy1> my windows does not have the option
[04:12] <Scunizi> illumin8: you need to learn how to use vmware or virtual box.. much easier to install and delete an OS for testing playing etc
[04:12] <wolter> shut up, FloodBot2
[04:12] <syockit> Crayboff: yes please
[04:12] <sebsebseb> idris:  you should read up about Ubuntu
[04:12] <madagascar27> how can i take that parition and add the space to an existing spot
[04:12] <RussM> hlm, I see from wiki that metasploit framework is a ruby app... you might try killing all ruby stuff...
[04:12] <Troy1> soeant appear like anything imprtant to me
[04:12] <Pengu1> Troy1, no, windows does not have that option.
[04:12] <Crayboff> alright, started it, syockit
[04:12] <wolter> sebsebseb, i had to do nothing =D that's the greatest thing..
[04:12] <sebsebseb> idris:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:12] <Troy1> i can live without that
[04:12] <nishshanka_> please response me any one who doing application with lighttpd
[04:13] <redvamp128> idris:  sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:13] <sebsebseb> wolter: yep Ubuntu is good for setting up servers
[04:13] <Pengu1> Madagascar27, you can resize partitions with gparted
[04:13] <hlm> RussM, what should I look for in system monitor?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> redvamp128: I already told him, but he can't seem to use the terminal even
[04:13] <RussM> hlm, try "ps -elf | grep ruby" and see if you get back anything.
[04:13] <wolter> sebsebseb, good? AWESOME
[04:13] <madagascar27> pengul: where do i find gparted
[04:13] <wolter> thats way better than samba, for file sharing..
[04:13] <wolter> samba is dead for me...
[04:13] <sebsebseb> redvamp128: even told him he has to press enter and put in his Ubuntu password after running the command
[04:13] <wolter> ftp should be the universal way of sharing
[04:14] <hlm> RussM, I found it now, thankyou
[04:14] <sebsebseb> wolter: oh you can help someone
[04:14] <Pengu1> madagascar27, system > administration > partition editor
[04:14] <hlm> and I now understand how to ready it
[04:14] <redvamp128> sebesebseb: I think I even told them to look in the synaptic package manger
[04:14] <wolter> the only bad thing is that you cannot limit whether its read-only or read-n-write
[04:14] <hlm> RussM, how do I kill one of these processes?
[04:14] <madagascar27> pengul: thanks
[04:14] <wolter> but i need to use read and write, so even better
[04:14] <wolter> !
[04:14] <Pengu1> Resizing partitions takes a long time.
[04:14] <hlm> !kill
[04:14] <illumin8> Whoever sent me the link to restore grub on my ubuntu partion thank you, i couldnt read your name from the live cd
[04:15] <RussM> hlm, the first number in the ps output line should be the pid, you can "kill -9 thatnumber"
[04:15] <RussM> hlm, or, if you don't have any other ruby stuff running, try pkill ruby
[04:15] <redvamp128> hlm:  I know the simple way to kill it-- just ctl-alt-backspace then log back in and the process should be stopped
[04:15] <Pengu1> illumin8, that was me. you're welcome.
[04:15] <hlm> redvamp128, no thanks, I dont want to restore all my running apps
[04:15] <illumin8> One final question, Since i installed other oses on the system after the install of ubuntu, how can i update ubuntus grub so it registers those new installs?
[04:15] <illumin8> Pengu1, Thank you very much :)
[04:15] <hlm> RussM, would it work if I did a pkill $app?
[04:16] <pek> quit
[04:16] <qcjn> hi, about "back in time", when the back up is made, after to retrive the file, do i just have to re-copy from where there saved ??
[04:16] <Pengu1> They aren't there automatically, illumin8? Listed under 'other os's'?
[04:16] <nishshanka_> hi again please connect with me some one who working with lighttpd web server
[04:16] <RussM> hlm, It should, pkill just runs a match against the process list. Be careful of unexpected matches, though.
[04:17] <illumin8> Pengu1, no, im missing an install of fedora and one other
[04:17] <hlm> RussM, its a pretty hard match, itll be 'msf'
[04:17] <hlm> RussM, I tried kill -9 PID and it didnt kill it
[04:17] <Pengu1> I'm not sure how to edit the file that detects them, I'm not much of an advanced user myself.
[04:18] <RussM> hlm, msf should be pretty unique, try pkill -9 msf
[04:18] <kyledr> what's win32codecs called? i can't find it in the package manager
[04:18] <world_citizen> how can I reinstall firefox?
[04:18] <hlm> RussM, I dont think that command is being found... its instantly returning me
[04:18] <madagascar27> im on the ubuntu alt installer and up to the partion part and it has been over 10 mins and the loadbar did not move past 0%
[04:19] <illumin8> Pengu1, Currently i have Ubuntu, crunchbang (8.10), fedora, debian 5.0, and one other i cant remember.. all installed on seperate partions but using the same swap. 2 of them were installed post ubuntu 8.04 install.
[04:19] <kyledr> nevermind i just found it...
[04:19] <harpreet> anyone ever used hylaFAX?
[04:19] <redvamp128> !codecs | kyledr
[04:19] <spideyman> kyledr try the perfectbuntu script
[04:19] <Pengu1> madagascar27, it takes a long time to rezise partitions. let it go for a while.
[04:19] <genii> nishshanka_: If you're certain your issue is with lighthttpd post your tech support question on their board at http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/boards
[04:19] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: on a known good hard drive?
[04:19] <illumin8> Pengu1, so it doesnt have the new ones on ubuntus grub i assume
[04:19] <RussM> hlm, gotta take the dogs out. brb
[04:19] <NFischer> world_citizen, synaptic, mark for reinstall
[04:19] <madagascar27> pengul: how long
[04:19] <hlm> RussM, okay
[04:19] <world_citizen> NFisher: thanks
[04:19] <Pengu1> illumin8: I'm not sure how to fix that
[04:19] <Troy1> thanks everyone
[04:19] <kyledr> spideyman: not seeing that in the package manager
[04:20] <harpreet> Pengu1: fix what?
[04:20] <Troy1> to tried to attempt this tonight
[04:20] <madagascar27> Quontrex_Ashimi: yes a sony viao core 2 duo all that jazz
[04:20] <illumin8> Pengu1, would reinstalling grub do the trick?
[04:20] <Pengu1> madagascar27: it shouldn't take more than an hour. but more than 15 minutes.
[04:20] <spideyman> kyledr google it  its a script
[04:20] <madagascar27> pengul: okay thx
[04:20] <redvamp128> kyledr:  it won't be there-- it is part of mediabuntu -- and the pages that ubottu linked you to will tell you how to install it
[04:20] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: doing a clean install or resize?
[04:20] <Pengu1> illumin8: I doubt it, since that's what you just did.
[04:20] <Angelus_Delapsus> Anyone in here familar with Kubuntu?
[04:20] <redvamp128> !codecs| kyledr:
[04:20] <madagascar27> Quontrex_Ashimi: i am making a partition?
[04:21] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: Yes
[04:21] <Pengu1> madagascar27: I thought your were rezising? or adding to your existing partition?
[04:21] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: and the hard disk drive in the machine has worked for you before?
[04:21] <Flannel> !anyone | Angelus_Delapsus
[04:21] <Flannel> Angelus_Delapsus: Also, You might have more luck in #kubuntu
[04:21] <Angelus_Delapsus> Then, Harp: I just logged in and all the sudden Plasma crashed (signal 11)
[04:21] <madagascar27> Quontrex_Ashimi: yep
[04:21] <looter> anyone else get a high pitch cackling sound  using intrepid ibex?
[04:21] <hlm> !pid
[04:21] <hlm> !processes
[04:21] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: It is a bug, you may report that, what version are you running?
[04:22] <DVA5912> Whats a free alternative to Adobe Fireworks?
[04:22] <Pengu1> looter, that's probably a hardware problem
[04:22] <kc8pxy> i just helped a friend install 8.04.2 64-bit, and also trying to help him transition from windows.  a particular applet he runs often does not work right under ubuntu. how do i start helping him fix it?
[04:22] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: I would strongly suggest getting the disk diagnostic for that model hard drive
[04:22] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: unfortunately plama isn't highly reliable
[04:22] <Angelus_Delapsus> Honestly, on any other occassion I would be able to riddle that info off for you. But for some reason, I can't remember
[04:22] <madagascar27> Quontrex_Ashimi: how
[04:23] <Pengu1> kc8pxy, it'd help if we knew what app it was.
[04:23] <looter> you think?  what do you suggest I do?  I don't have any problems on my vista install...
[04:23] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: know the brand and model of the disk?
[04:23] <Pengu1> looter, is it installed on a different hard drive?
[04:23] <redvamp128> kyledr:  also see this guide How to Install win32 codec - Ubuntu Forums <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60754>
[04:23] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: when did you install it? Do you have anything else running on system?
[04:23] <looter> yep
[04:23] <Pengu1> is it an external drive?
[04:23] <Borgir> Scunizi.. it's hard to tell.. so much lines.. The hanlers are: ata_interrupt ... [libate] and disabling IRQ #21
[04:23] <madagascar27> Quontrex_Ashimi: total newb its a sony viao all i noe
[04:23] <Pengu1> looter, is it external?
[04:23] <Crayboff> craaaapp, syockit, my laptop froze, i had to force shut it down, i was just trying to open flock
[04:23] <looter> nope
[04:24] <syockit> Crayboff: aaawwwww
[04:24] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: well you need to know the model and brand name of the hard drive INSIDE the sony box
[04:24] <Pengu1> well I suppose it's just the drive.
[04:24] <Angelus_Delapsus> Harp: Installed the latest version from kubuntu source... Litterally clicked the "Latest Version" download. :) And no, nothing else is on it. I uninstalled windows when I installed Linux (An action I took extreme pride in doing, btw)
[04:24] <Crayboff> syockit: i'll start grep again
[04:24] <IgnitedSun> g
[04:24] <kc8pxy> Pengu1:  it's a chat..  let me get the applet name.
[04:24] <Quontrex_Ashimi> Crayboff: sounds like its flocked
[04:24] <syockit> Crayboff: but really I don't think you can find the root cause with grep
[04:24] <Crayboff> :(
[04:24] <looter> hmm...well i just formatted this drivewhich previously had xp on it again with no issues
[04:24] <syockit> Crayboff: it's unfeasible, as it goes through binary (non-text) files as well
[04:25] <Pengu1> looter, I'm not sure why ubuntu would make a sound and xp wouldn't.
[04:25] <bullgard4> What does  "-- MARK --" mean as in http://rafb.net/p/cK16mD15.html?
[04:25] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: you ever used ubuntu? you may consider using gnome and kde both at the same time, incase of a problem, your data will always be safe
[04:26] <Angelus_Delapsus> Harp: I read about that option, but I can't find it honestly. It was one of the main reasons I decided to switch to Kubuntu.
[04:26] <Quontrex_Ashimi> and ALWAYS put your /home on a seperate partition
[04:26] <Angelus_Delapsus> That and it just runs better.
[04:26] <Crayboff> Quontrex_Ashimi: my entire computer and any electronic thing i come in contact with finds a way to flock itself
[04:26] <syockit> Crayboff: why don't you just find files with filename containing amarok instead? do this: find ~ | grep -i amarok
[04:26] <Quontrex_Ashimi> Crayboff: I know the feeling
[04:26] <Crayboff> alright, i'll try, syockit
[04:26] <syockit> Crayboff: sorry, repeat that with " > result.file" added
[04:26] <jbuncher> syockit:  would running "locate amarok" be faster?
[04:26] <Angelus_Delapsus> Syo isn't that normally ~/ , or somewhere in ther?
[04:27] <RussM> hlm, back. any luck?
[04:27] <syockit> jbuncher: yeah forgot locate
[04:27] <syockit> Crayboff: use locate instead
[04:27] <hlm> RussM, no, the command kill isnt found and no luck with pkill
[04:27] <Quontrex_Ashimi> could use find / -name amarok
[04:27] <jbuncher> syockit:  just making sure my search habits aren't bad :)
[04:27] <spideyman> frostwire wont close after upgrade
[04:27] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: if you installed kubuntu, the possiblity is you only have kde not gnome, but when you restart your system you will see option of starting kde or gnome, if not, you;'ll have to install gnome
[04:27] <RussM> hlm, can you pastebin the output of "ps -elf | grep ruby"?
[04:27] <Crayboff> make up your mind, syockit, "locate ~ | grep -i amarok > result.file "   ?
[04:28] <Angelus_Delapsus> Harpreet: Can I do that when my GUI isn't even starting?
[04:28] <syockit> Crayboff: locate amarok | pastebinit
[04:28] <Angelus_Delapsus> or do it through "sudo apt-get install"?
[04:28] <Crayboff> syockit: is it sudo?
[04:28] <kyledr> redvamp128: thanks, nice tip. i found something i thought was it, but it wasn't. i needed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:28] <hlm> RussM, its two lines... want me to send via pm?
[04:28] <syockit> Crayboff: no
[04:28] <redvamp128> spideyman:  you have to uninstall and reinstall the later version - I saw that one about a week ago-- from someone who upgraded from hardy to intrepid (that fixed her issue)
[04:28] <Crayboff> alright, i put it in, lets see what happens
[04:28] <Crayboff> syockit: http://pastebin.com/f62ea2c4b
[04:29] <syockit> jbuncher: it's just that I do not trust my system has up to date updatedb, that's why i keep forgetting locate
[04:29] <madagascar27> 1/2 an hr and no progress on the partition what can i do to stop it, alt instaler ubuntu 8.10
[04:29] <spideyman> redvamp128 thanx
[04:29] <redvamp128> kyledr:  here is another guide to installing w32 How to Install win32 codec - Ubuntu Forums <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60754>
[04:29] <hlm> RussM, http://paste.ubuntu.com/119511/
[04:29] <harpreet> Angelus_Delapsus: you may try package manager, oh its called apt package manager and search for gnome there
[04:29] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: turn it off
[04:29] <Crayboff> when i go off to college next year, my roommate better be an ubuntu expert
[04:29] <redvamp128> spideyman:  now you have to unistall current version then install the version that is for the upgraded one
[04:29] <kyledr> redvamp128: thanks.. my current trouble is that apt-get instlal w32codecs won't work, says it's referenced by another package but no installation candidate is avail
[04:29] <lavren> I have this smoothwall box, no cdrom drive. It has ftp access to the rest of my network -- what is the most straight forward way to get ubuntu onto it --
[04:29] <Quontrex_Ashimi> madagascar27: open the box, get make and model of the hard disk drive and come back with that info
[04:29] <jbuncher> syockit, I think there's a cron job that runs it pretty often, but sometimes I just run it manually after I move a ton of stuff around
[04:30] <redvamp128> kyledr:  Intrepid or Juanty?
[04:30] <kyledr> redvamp128: intrepid
[04:30] <RussM> hlm, OK, I think the problem is that you're running the pkill as you, and the process is owned by root.
[04:30] <kyledr> redvamp128: isn't that second link the same as the first?
[04:30] <hlm> so I should 'sudo pkill -9 4' ?
[04:30] <RussM> hlm, "sudo pkill -9 msf" should do it.
[04:31] <redvamp128> kyledr:  or just download the .deb from mediabuntu Medibuntu -- Details of release intrepid <http://packages.medibuntu.org/intrepid/index.html>
[04:31] <syockit> Crayboff: let's try this: uninstall amarok (do not purge/completely remove), log out, log in again, install amarok again, and then try relogin
[04:31] <hlm> RussM, no, that didnt work
[04:31] <Crayboff> alright, syockit
[04:31] <Crayboff> apt-get remove, right?
[04:31] <redvamp128> kyledr:  look at the bottom of that page
[04:32] <Pengu1> anyone know of any progress on Zune in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <jaxx2kde> How do I mount partition automatically on start up, using a script?
[04:32] <syockit> Crayboff: yes
[04:32] <jaxx2kde> or otherwise
[04:32] <Borgir> Is it possible to edit grub file using the busybox command line?
[04:33] <hlm> RussM, woops, I fixed it ;-)
[04:33] <kc8pxy> Pengu1: www.addonchat.com hosts the applet.
[04:33] <Crayboff> syockit: alright, brb
[04:33] <NFischer> jaxx2kde, sudo gedit etc/fstab
[04:33] <RussM> hlm, What happened?
[04:33] <redvamp128> kyledr:  did you get my last link to this Medibuntu -- Details of package w32codecs in hardy <http://packages.medibuntu.org/hardy/w32codecs.html>
[04:33] <illumin8> whats the commaned to edit the grub.conf?
[04:33] <kyledr> redvamp128: yes. so i can't get it straight from ubuntu?
[04:33] <harpreet> jaxx2kde: you have to modify the file that contains information about paritions and set automatic mounting there to mount the file system each time the system starts
[04:33] <hlm> RussM, I accidentally forgot to put msf
[04:33] <redvamp128> kyledr:  I think you have to add mediabuntu to the repos like in the guide
[04:33] <harpreet> jaxx2kde: use gedit to modfiy it
[04:34] <world_citizen> how can I install firefox with apget?
[04:34] <Pengu1> kc8pxy: and you're saying it doesn't work in Ubuntu?
[04:34] <redvamp128> kyledr:  or you can find it here Medibuntu -- Details of package w32codecs in intrepid <http://packages.medibuntu.org/intrepid/w32codecs.html>
[04:34] <hlm> RussM, what was that command to get the list again?
[04:34] <NFischer> world_citizen, sudo apt-get install firefox ?
[04:34] <jbuncher> illumin8:  jsut edit /boot/grub/menu.lst with your editor of choice
[04:34] <RussM> hlm, the process list?
[04:34] <world_citizen> NFischer: thanks again
[04:34] <hlm> RussM, yes, with search
[04:35] <redvamp128> kyledr:  I think once you add mediabuntu (like in the guide that ubottu gave) it will then show up in apt and in synaptic
[04:35] <RussM> "ps -elf" gets you the full list. Adding " | grep searchstring" filters it down.
[04:35] <kyledr> redvamp128: deb: command not found
[04:35] <spideyman> kyledr use this script make it executible and run from terminal lots of options all the goodies
[04:35] <kc8pxy> Pengu1:  it doesn't work on my friends 64-bit ubuntu. i have not yet confirmed with ym own 64-bit ubuntu box. works fine on my 32-bit gentoo box.
[04:35] <jaxx2kde> harpreet, NFischer: i have /etc/fstab open.. what lines should i add
[04:35] <redvamp128> kyledr:  Pm?
[04:35] <bullgard4> What does  "-- MARK --" mean as in http://rafb.net/p/cK16mD15.html?
[04:35] <NFischer> jaxx2kde, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[04:35] <kc8pxy> Pengu1:  it starts the loading part,  but get stuck there.
[04:36] <illumin8> jbuncher, thank you
[04:36] <Pengu1> Did he have a 64 bit windows install before using Ubuntu?
[04:36] <RussM> hlm, See the man pages for ps and grep for more info. ("man ps" and "man grep" respectively)
[04:36] <madagascar27> Quontrex_Ashimi:http://paste.ubuntu.com/119513/
[04:36] <jaxx2kde> NFischer, thanks :)
[04:36] <hlm> RussM, I lied, its still running
[04:36] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone. Sound Problems here. I can hear sound on ubuntu, but i can't hear my system sound. Any ideas?
[04:36] <kc8pxy> Pengu1:  nope..  32-bit vista
[04:36] <Pengu1> I suppose you should test it on your 64 bit. It may just not be compatible with 64 bit.
[04:36] <madagascar27> quontrex_Ashimi: did it work
[04:36] <bullgard4> jhonnyboy: Yes. Consult help.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <kc8pxy> Pengu1: he's currently on the ubuntu side of a ubuntu/vista dual
[04:37] <jhonnyboy> bullgard4: Thank you
[04:37] <ramy> #zeitgeistmovement
[04:37] <kc8pxy> Pengu1: could he use a 32-bit java?
[04:37] <tritium> ramy: stay on topic, please
[04:37] <RussM> hlm, Hmmm. Can you run that "ps -elf | grep ruby" again? I want to see if it has changed.
[04:37] <hlm> RussM, the process fails to end, im not even getting any errors :-(
[04:38] <Pengu1> I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu, but I'm sure it's possible. I would bet on that to work, though.
[04:38] <hlm> RussM, I can assure you it is exactly the same
[04:38] <jhonnyboy> I have the logitech x530 speakers and a Creative Audigy SE soundcard. I'm not getting surround sound and i only have 2 + the subwoofer out of 6 speakers working. Do you guys know of anything i can do to solve this issue?
[04:38] <madagascar27> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119513/
[04:38] <ramy> what? o dont get it. i wanan get to a irc room called zeitgeistmovement
[04:38] <RussM> hlm, OK, then the last thing I can suggest is "sudo kill -9 6451"
[04:38] <tritium> ramy: you forgot the /join in front of the channel name, in that case
[04:38] <RussM> hlm, If that doesn't do it, I'm out of suggestions.
[04:39] <ramy> ohhh ty
[04:39] <Crayboff> syockit: that did nothing
[04:39] <AlexD73> hello
[04:40] <hlm> RussM, thankyou, that worked!
[04:40] <xx> hello
[04:40] <lavren> so is a netboot possible without a dhcp server? It would seem unlikely for it not to be
[04:40] <WastelandGhost> Does anyone have problems using QT applications?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> WastelandGhost: what kind of problems?
[04:41] <WastelandGhost> Есть кто русскоговорящий?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> what?
[04:41] <redvamp128> !ru | WastelandGhost
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> !ru
[04:41] <Rainium_Isotope_> need some help installing a built-in cam (ubuntu, gnome/gtk)
[04:41] <sebsebseb> !cam
[04:42] <WastelandGhost> I see blank spaces instead of normal letters and words in menus
[04:42] <Crayboff> !mic
[04:42] <Crayboff> hmm
[04:42] <Pengu1> Does anyone else's openGL programs blink rapidly when run? I can't run most OpenGL programs because of this.
[04:42] <wubrgamer> please send me a quick PM
[04:42] <wubrgamer> i'm testing irssi
[04:43] <G-Blunted> Hey my system is bogged down...how can i see what is taking up all my cpu/ram??
[04:43] <sebsebseb> Pengu1: bad driver maybe or bad graphics card
[04:43] <Crayboff> pengul, u have ATI too?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> G-Blunted: easy
[04:43] <Pengu1> Yes, Crayboff
[04:43] <Rainium_Isotope_> i was able to install the graphics card
[04:43]  * G-Blunted waits for it..
[04:43] <wubrgamer> ubottu: hi
[04:43] <Crayboff> pengul: are you using compiz?
[04:43] <spideyman> G-Blunted type top in terminal
[04:43] <Rainium_Isotope_> o nvm
[04:43] <ndfsck> G-Blunted: system>administration>system monitor (or 'top' in console)
[04:43] <Rainium_Isotope_> ha
[04:43] <sebsebseb> G-Blunted: right click on the panel and  add the thing to it
[04:43] <G-Blunted> ok i will try
[04:43] <Pengu1> Crayboff, yeah, is that the problem?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> G-Blunted: or do what  ndfsck said
[04:44] <ndf> =)
[04:44] <Crayboff> pengul: i have the exact same problem. if you turn off all your effects it works. I have looked for an answer and haven't found anything. apparently they're going to come out with a fix a couple months from now, but that's what they said last september
[04:45] <Pengu1> Maybe Jaunty will fix it?
[04:45] <Pengu1> I was planning on getting a new card, anyway. Does this happen with all ATI's?
[04:45] <Crayboff> No clue, i just use what dell gave me in
[04:46] <Pengu1> What card do you have?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> Pengu1: no idea I use Nividia
[04:46] <L3Tum> Can someone please help me get my mouse working? It quit working, I installed ubuntu, still didn't work, tried another mouse, didn't work, checked BIOS, still doesn't work
[04:46] <Pengu1> I have a Radeon x600. I think it's like a laptop card or something.
[04:46] <Crayboff> Pengu1: also have no clue, whatever came in inspiron 1521, a model of laptop which they discontinued a month or so after i got it
[04:47] <G-Blunted> when i login...i get this error: "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored.  This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permisions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users."  <---how can i do all this stuff it wants me to do?
[04:48] <Pengu1> Did a quick google, you have an ATI Radeon Xpress1270 HyperMemory
[04:48] <jhonnyboy> hey guys how can we get some widgets on ubuntu? Do we need the widgetfactory?
[04:49] <Crayboff> syockit: any revelations?
[04:49] <L3Tum> Can someone tell me where to go to get my mouse problm fixed?
[04:49] <Y-Town> anyone here experiencing firefox and seamonkey crashing while surfing the web?  only started this week for me
[04:49] <bullgard4> What does  "-- MARK --" mean as in http://rafb.net/p/cK16mD15.html?
[04:49] <Crayboff> thanks, Pengu1
[04:49] <jbuncher> Y-Town, did you install any plugins this week?
[04:49] <Dracie> Y-Town, try removing .mozilla from your home folder (back it up before you do) and try again
[04:49] <w7> o
[04:49] <Y-Town> jbuncher: none
[04:50] <Y-Town> Dracie: does it with seamonkey too
[04:50] <jbuncher> G-Blunted, "chmod 644 ~/.dmrc"
[04:50] <G-Blunted> thats it?
[04:51] <donavan> I need to make a connection between my PC and a NAS box I am building I am using WIFI right now for my internet but I want to hardwire the NAS to the PC ... I havent messed around with this ... does anyone know of a good howto on this one ... PC should be able to access the NAS and the internet but the NAS should only see the PC
[04:51] <G-Blunted> how do i list files in a directory and see what permissions everything has?
[04:51] <Dracie> Y-Town, i dunno where seamonkey puts configs
[04:52] <jrib> G-Blunted: ls -l
[04:52] <jbuncher> G-Blunted:  that command will change the permissions of the .dmrc file.  To list files in a directory and see what permissions everything has, run ls -l in the directory you're curious about
[04:52] <Crayboff> DANG IT!!! now my firefox is screwed over
[04:52] <Crayboff> i hate my life
[04:52] <tritium> Crayboff: relax
[04:53] <Crayboff> tritium, if you had my computer, you'd be getting pissed off too
[04:53] <jbuncher> Can anyone in here help confirm (or deny) that intel wireless has trouble connecting to hidden ssid networks on hardy 2.6.24-23?
[04:53] <Y-Town> I just disables java and flash and now seems to work.... something tells me there is a bug in the most recent update since I never had an issue before
[04:54] <Crayboff> anyone know how to get the bookmarks toolbar working again? it says its there but there is nothign on it and i cant move things onto it
[04:54] <Crayboff> also my homepage turned blank
[04:54] <L3Tum> Anyone willing to help me fix my mouse please?
[04:54] <Pengu1> you've tried restarting firefox, I assume?
[04:56] <Crayboff> it's going very slowly and there is no message of it doing anything in that bottom bar, nothing shows up when you click a link
[04:56] <Crayboff> and, yes, Pengul, I closed firefox and opened it like 3 times so far
[04:57] <Dracie> hey guys run firefox in a terminal
[04:57] <Dracie> see what sort of warning/errors it gives
[04:57] <FearMoth> Hi, is there any way to check if my computer has an agp port without having physical access to it? I could shut it down and open it up, but I would rather not
[04:58] <Crayboff> Dracie: how would i go about doing that?
[04:59] <Dracie> Crayboff, Applications -> Accessorys -> Terminal
[04:59] <Dracie> type in firefox
[04:59] <Dracie> return
[04:59] <Crayboff> dracie, alright, ya, it didn't return any feedback
[04:59] <kc8pxy> Pengu1:  looks like i can confirm it on 64-bit ubuntu. 8.04
[04:59] <Dracie> I think firefox has a built in debug thingy
[04:59] <genii> FearMoth: Look up your computers model online?
[05:00] <Pengu1> kc8pxy, it works on 64-bit ubuntu?
[05:01] <Crayboff> aa, alright, is there any linux application which can handle ipods, ipod apps, and movies, and of course songs??
[05:01] <kc8pxy> Pengu1:  goes to lunch on 64-bit ubuntu.    neet to try 64-bit gentoo to confirm it to 64 though.    32-gentoo works.   i don't have ubuntu on this lappy
[05:01] <pHreaksYcle> Crayboff, Banshee
[05:02] <Crayboff> pHreaksYcle: it can do everything?
[05:02] <pHreaksYcle> not sure about the apps
[05:02] <pHreaksYcle> what do you mean by apps
[05:02] <Crayboff> pHreaksYcle: for ipod touches
[05:03] <pHreaksYcle> hmm.
[05:03] <Y-Town> So I have figured out that its shockwave flash thats creating firefox and seamonkey to crashes.   Anyone know what the possible conflicts could be with?
[05:03] <lvlefisto> i can't enable my mic with pulseaudio
[05:03] <Crayboff> syockit: did you figure anything out, can't recall or see if you said anything
 amorok does all that well except the movies i suggest vlc for that
 or mplayer
[05:04] <Pengu1> kc8pxy: Well if you confirm that it works on 64-bit, I wouldn't know what to tell you. If you don't, then he'll probably have to run it in 32 bit, if possible.
[05:04] <Pengu1> either way he'd probably have to do that, I suppose.
[05:04] <Crayboff> spidey, i'll look into it, thanks
[05:05] <Crayboff> well i'm using amarok right now but i'm having all sorts of problems with it
[05:05] <kc8pxy> anyone here versed in setting up 32-bit java on 64-bit ubuntu?
 like what?
[05:05] <pHreaksYcle> Crayboff, my buddy had the same deal, he said banshee was like heaven lol
[05:05] <pHreaksYcle> Crayboff, Banshee def. doesn't do apps
[05:05] <Pengu1> Crayboff, are you on KDE or Gnome?
[05:06] <ashok_> hey all i'm trying to play a video in totem, fullscreen, and it looks like the totem UI is flashing through from behind the fullscreen video every now and then
[05:06] <Crayboff> pengul, gnome
[05:06] <Pengu1> Well I'd recommend Banshee or Exaile for Gnome.
[05:06] <pHreaksYcle> word
[05:06] <pHreaksYcle> never heard of Exaile tho, need to check that out
[05:06] <Pengu1> Amorok is good, if you're running KDE.
 I use amorok in gnome with no probs yet even got a 3g ipod nano workin
[05:07] <fixmypod> hey guys i have a completely bricked ipod, cant get any operating system to detect it, do u guys have any idea how to fix it
[05:07] <ashok_> anyone, weird video flashing issues running in fullscreen?
[05:07] <Pengu1> Exaile is a clone of Amorok, more or less. Written in GTK
[05:07] <Crayboff> spideyman: i mean i have other problems, like it keeps starting up at boot and i can't stop it
[05:07] <pHreaksYcle> lol
 set it in start up options
[05:07] <Crayboff> CRAP, my firefox is worse off than i though, the back and forward buttons are broken
[05:07] <ashok_> @fixmypod I think you're in the wrong IRC for ipod support
[05:08] <Crayboff> spideyman: i already tried sessions
 reinstall firmware from itunes
[05:08] <Crayboff> spideyman: it's not in there
[05:08] <Pengu1> But yeah, Banshee is good if you like the iTunes or WMP style of music sorting, Exaile is better if you're into running music from active playlists constantly.
[05:08] <Crayboff> Pengu1: what about songbird?
[05:08] <fixmypod> spideyman: ubuntu doesnt even recognize the ipod, neither does any other operating system
[05:08] <Pengu1> I haven't tried it.
[05:08] <maxime> whats the difference between the splash screen and the USPLASH
[05:08] <pHreaksYcle> Crayboff, Banshee is also good if you just shuffle all of your shit all the time
[05:08] <fixmypod> spideyman: is there a way i could look in the /dev folder to manually flash the device ?
[05:09] <Pengu1> I've tried Exaile, Amorok, Banshee, Rythmbox, a few others. Banshee is my favorite.
[05:09] <Crayboff> Pengu1: you try songbird, though?
[05:09] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 same, it has a pretty icon too
[05:09] <Pengu1> Crayboff, No, I haven't.
[05:09] <kyledr> anyone know what i have to install to get /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll? It's a codec for mplayer
 youd still have to gey the firmware from apple
[05:09] <spideyman> get
[05:09] <Crayboff> you know what, I'm starting to get really pissed with my computer right now. how could firefox fail me like this?
[05:09] <pHreaksYcle> lol
[05:09] <Pengu1> Yeah the Exaile icon is too close to Pidgin's. I keep thinking I have IM windows open.
[05:09] <pHreaksYcle> what in the world do you mean
[05:10] <Elijah2> I have a live cd in a Mac Pro with wireless mouse, the mouse does not work. How do I use the keyboard to get to the top bar?
[05:10] <shey> Can someone please assist me? rmmod ath9k and sudo modprobe -r ath9k causes my system to lockup and crash. I have tried it with both the module in use, and with networking disabled completely. Can someone please tell me how to go about removing this module so I can use my linksys WiFi adapter??
[05:10] <fixmypod> spideyman: i am trying to do this : http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=2fd6c696b3b1d492f1096f35f55d65b5&threadid=93059&highlight=fdisk
[05:10] <Elijah2> or better yet, how do i get the apple wireless mouse working with a live cd
[05:10] <Pengu1> Crayboff, have you tried reinstalling it?
[05:10] <genii> !blacklist | shey
[05:10] <Crayboff> Pengu1: Ubuntu?
[05:10] <spideyman> im reading  !!!!
[05:11] <Elijah2> It says Alt + F1 will open applications menu but it does not
[05:11] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff no firefox
[05:11] <bullgard4> What is a cgroup [= control group] as in http://pastebin.com/f6033690a?
[05:11] <Pengu1> um, can't you just sudo remove firefox, then sudo apt-get install firefox?
[05:11] <Crayboff> pHreaksYcle: will that get rid of my addons?
[05:11] <L3Tum> can somebody help me fix my mouse
[05:11] <Pengu1> or am I retarded.
[05:11] <tyler_d> whats the maximum mtu size?
[05:11] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 will it wipe his addons??
[05:12] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 I forgot how that works
[05:12] <Pengu1> I'm actually not sure.
[05:12] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 same. . .
 what is the filesystem mac or pc
[05:12] <Pengu1> You know it could be your addons that are messing with it
[05:12] <Pengu1> try disabling all of them, crayboff.
[05:12] <Crayboff> we'll find out if apt-get removes the addons too
[05:12] <L3Tum> There's like 10000 people in here and nobody can help...
[05:12] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff hang on
[05:12] <Crayboff> oops too late
[05:12] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff lol
[05:13] <fixmypod> spideyman: i am on ubuntu right now
[05:13] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff u cud have just backed up ur .mozilla folder in home
[05:13] <fixmypod> live cd
[05:13] <spideyman> !xorg reconfigure
[05:13] <spideyman> !xorg
[05:13] <shey> after I alter the blacklist, I need to reboot?
[05:13] <Crayboff> pHreaksYcle: well that's assuming i didn't just pass the point of not caring about my computer
 the ipod filesystem?
[05:13] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff 10-4 haha
[05:14] <fixmypod> spideyman: its HFS something
[05:14] <Quontrex_Ashimi> Crayboff: you wouldnt be here if you had
[05:14] <Crayboff> alright, just doing apt-get remove than the apt-get install did nothing at all
 thats mac you need a macbook to see it
[05:14] <shey> Ubuntu on a macbook rocks.
[05:14] <Crayboff> FML
[05:14] <tsrk> I noticed my machines getting sudo updates today... what was that fixing?
[05:14] <Pengu1> Do you still have your addons, Crayboff?
[05:14] <shey> thats what I am using now.
[05:14] <fixmypod> spideyman: i tried a mac it doesnt read the ipod as a device
[05:15] <Crayboff> yes, pengul
[05:15] <shey> GREAT support.
[05:15] <Pengu1> Try disabling all of them
[05:15] <Crayboff> i've had these addons for a long time and nothing went wrong before
[05:15] <Pengu1> Hm.
[05:15] <tritium> Crayboff: of course not.  Your settings are in your home directory, and removing/reinstalling the package won't touch those.
 hang on
[05:15] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff addon updates may have changed things
[05:15] <shey> After I alter the modules blacklist.. do I need to reboot??
[05:15] <tritium> shey: no
[05:16] <kyledr> how can i get avisynth.dll for mplayer in /usr/lib/win32/? I tried installing all the non-free codecs i could find in medibuntu and all
[05:16] <pHreaksYcle> lol
[05:16] <shey> tritium: then what do I do to stop that module now?
[05:16] <tritium> shey: sudo modprobe -r <module name>
 use this link http://people.csail.mit.edu/adonovan/hacks/ipod.html
[05:16] <Crayboff> pHreaksYcle: well that did nothing
[05:16] <shey> tritium: cant, that causes my system to lockup and crash.
[05:16] <Pengu1> Hey crayboff, does VLC, totem and mplayer blink for you? or just 3d apps?
[05:17] <tritium> shey: which module?
[05:17] <Crayboff> Pengu1: umm i can check for you, if i had any videos to play on them
[05:17] <shey> tritium:  ath9k
[05:17] <Crayboff> Pengu1: i think it's a yes, though
[05:17] <tritium> shey: that's peculiar.
[05:17] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff /home/urname/Examples
[05:17] <L3Tum> OK I have determined my mouse problem definately has something to do with the serial port. It works just fine with usb. Anyone please?
[05:17] <Pengu1> Hm. My videos don't blink, but when I run something like xScreensaver or Google Earth it flickers contantly
[05:17] <pHreaksYcle> check there for a movie to play
[05:18] <fixmypod> spideyman: actually i have a fat32 probably, i used it with windows, sry for the confusion
[05:18] <tritium> L3Tum: what's the problem
[05:18] <tritium> ?
 its still a good read
[05:18] <shey> tritium: Im on a macbook 2,1; and according to forums and such, I had to compile the module myself, and now when I rmmod ath9k, the system just hangs. Theres a kernel bug with the ath9k module, it keeps dropping the connection.
[05:18] <Crayboff> yes, Pengu1 it does
[05:19] <fixmypod> spideyman: it shows using a firewire port tho, i dont know if my usb will work
[05:19] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff, you found a video in there?
[05:19] <Pengu1> Damn.
[05:19] <Crayboff> yes
[05:19] <tritium> shey: I see
[05:19] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff good i was guessing :P
[05:19] <Crayboff> lol
[05:19] <L3Tum> tritium, I can't get the mouse to work on my second machine running ubuntu. It quit working when I had Fedora, I installed ubuntu still doesn't work. I checked BIOS, as far as I can tell everything is right there. I tried changing to another mouse and neither work with the serial port, but when I use the usb mouse it does work
[05:19] <shey> tritium: so to get the blacklisted module to unload, I need to reboot no?
[05:19] <Pengu1> I wonder why my videos don't blink and yours do.
[05:20] <Pengu1> stupid compiz bugs.
[05:20] <tritium> L3Tum: is the "sermouse" module loaded?
[05:20] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 in my experience, it's always Compiz' fault
[05:20] <pHreaksYcle> lol
 there all the same
[05:20] <tritium> shey: sounds like it, given what you described
[05:20] <Pengu1> do you know if it's a particular compiz feature?
[05:20] <L3Tum> tritium, I don't know, how do I check that?
[05:20] <Pengu1> because I'd sacrifice wobbly windows for a fix to this crap.
[05:20] <tritium> L3Tum: lsmod | grep sermouse
 the 3g nanos you have to manually set the firewire id
[05:20] <shey> L3Tum: you may wanna see if the serial port is connected INSIDE the machine. most people now disconnect it to save resources & ports.
[05:20] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 its not the features, just the load on the chip
[05:20] <nanotube> Pengu1: well... why not just kill compiz and use metacity? it's stable as a rock.
[05:20] <shey> tritium: thanks for your help.
[05:21] <tritium> shey: sure.  Good luck.
[05:21] <shey> I will try to reboot. brb.
[05:21] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 depending on how close it is, you can sometimes kill some features and be better off
[05:21] <Dracie> If I was to uprade to 9.04 alpha would I expect my nvidia drivers to stop working upon rebooting into the new kernel?
[05:21] <pHreaksYcle> @Pengu1 other times, it's a lost cause
[05:21] <fixmypod> spideyman: i went to /proc/bus/usb, the folder is empty
[05:21] <Pengu1> nanotube: much work to get that installed?
[05:21] <tritium> Dracie: yes, quite possibly
[05:21] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie if you upgrade to 9.04, expect nothing to work
[05:21] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie at least not yet
[05:21] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie rule of thumb
[05:22] <Dracie> btw has anyone recompiled a kernel and recompiled nvidia nonfree to work with it?
[05:22] <Dracie> I couldn't get it to work following the wiki
[05:22] <fixmypod> spideyman: it says that /proc/bus/ieee394 should have "APPLE IPOD..." but my usb folder is just empty
[05:22] <tritium> Dracie: if you really have further questions about 9.04, /j #ubuntu+1
[05:22] <nanotube> Pengu1: not at all, it comes installed by default. if you just disable all desktop effects, metacity will be used instead of compiz.
[05:22] <bullgard4> What is a cgroup [= control group] as in http://pastebin.com/f6033690a?
[05:22] <Dracie> tritium, ok thx
[05:22] <Crayboff> hopefully rebooting my computer will fix all my problems? oh and I have a problem during startup/shutdown
[05:22] <Pengu1> Does anyone know offhand, all the compiz features that are enabled when running 'Normal' visual effects?
 linux is fickle with ipods it may look mounted or even transfer files but wont work
[05:23] <Dracie> Pengu1, get compiz config manager
 what model ipod is it?
[05:23] <Pengu1> I have that.
[05:23] <fixmypod> spideyman: its an ipod classic
[05:23] <pHreaksYcle> okay, i'm an IRC noob, can someone explain to me a few things
[05:23] <L3Tum> tritium, when I type lsmod | grep sermouse it says nothing. Also, the mouse did work until started trying to configure my network card, then it quit, so I know it is connected inside
[05:23] <fixmypod> spideyman: i cant get it to show as a device in windows either
[05:23] <pHreaksYcle> such as are there sub channels in this channel
[05:24] <pHreaksYcle> and how do i know what they are
 try gtkpod it worked well with my shuffle
[05:24] <tritium> L3Tum: ok, that means it's not connected.  Try "sudo modprobe sermouse" to load it.
[05:24] <b1n42y> pHreaksYcle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ
[05:24] <Crayboff> dracie, compiz config manager still requires too much from the video driver and still flashes
[05:24] <fixmypod> spideyman: k ill try that later
[05:24] <pHreaksYcle> @B1n43y muchas gracias
[05:24] <fixmypod> spideyman: tks for the help
[05:24] <Dracie> Crayboff, flashes?
[05:24] <spideyman> np
[05:25] <Crayboff> trying to fix the flashes is a hopeless cause until the gods make a brandnew driver
[05:25] <Sw3RvE> can someone please help me install wifi radar on xubuntu?
[05:25] <L3Tum> tritium, still nothing. Nothing printed, and no mouse control
[05:25] <Dracie> tritium, replug in your mouse and then try it
[05:25] <tritium> L3Tum: are you in X right now?  Try restarting gdm after you've loaded the module.
[05:26] <tritium> L3Tum: i.e., "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"
[05:26] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff get another gfx card?
[05:26] <Dracie> lol looks like i have been doing that wrong
[05:26] <borgista> hi, I am getting this error @ boot "can't find /init in /etc/fstab"
[05:26] <Dracie> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:26] <pHreaksYcle> @borgista that sucks
[05:26] <Pengu1> Dracie: ATI cards make OpenGL flicker like crazy with compiz on.
[05:26] <Crayboff> yes, dracie, flashes. the ATI driver sucks balls and 3d graphics and video flashes. ironically, it doesn't happen on youtube, so flash video still works
[05:26] <borgista> yup Pengu1
[05:26] <Dracie> I don't know what you guys are talking about
[05:26] <tritium> Dracie: that's another way to do it.
[05:27] <borgista> pHreaksYcle: any advice?
[05:27] <Dracie> 3300 HD works fine
[05:27] <tritium> Crayboff: watch the language, please
[05:27] <Pengu1> I've been trying to fix it too, borgista
[05:27] <Crayboff> sorry, tritium, i'm pissed off right now
[05:27] <pHreaksYcle> @borgista wait for someone more experienced
[05:27] <Dracie> Crayboff, youtube isn't opengl accel
[05:27] <borgista> Pengu1: so is it a  known bug?
[05:27] <L3Tum> tritium,  my screen went black and I have blinking cursor but cannot type anything, it didn't restart
[05:27] <Crayboff> i'm rebooting right now, brb
[05:27] <tritium> Crayboff: never mind that.  This channel needs to be kept family-friendly.
[05:27] <Crayboff> i know
[05:27] <Pengu1> It's known  but not widely reported
[05:27] <Dracie> borgista, you have a seperate boot partition?
[05:27] <Sw3RvE> can someone please help me???
[05:27] <Pengu1> I'm guessing not all Radeon cards are affected by it
[05:27] <borgista> Dracie: yes?
[05:28] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium i thought it was 13+
[05:28] <Pengu1> I have one too, Dracie
[05:28] <tritium> L3Tum: Ctrl-Alt-F7 doesn't take you back to X?
[05:28] <Pengu1> Same problem.
[05:28] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: no
[05:28] <qi> pppp
[05:28] <Dracie> borgista,  it seems it thinks your root file system is the same partition
[05:28] <borgista> damnit
[05:28] <Dracie> borgista, don't worry its an easy fix
[05:28] <borgista> Dracie: yay!!!
[05:29] <Dracie> borgista, do you know what the device name is of your root filesystem?
[05:29] <Pengu1> Dracie, what problem of his in particular are you trying to fix?
[05:29] <L3Tum> tritium,  no, I can go to terminal with alt+F1 but alt+f7 or alt+ctrl+f7 just goes to blank screen
[05:29] <borgista> root is /dev/sda7
[05:29] <Dracie> Pengu1, grub told his kernel to boot and root is his boot partition
[05:29] <tritium> L3Tum: can you try to load it again?  "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"
[05:29] <Pengu1> Oh, I thought you were talking about the flickering. Damn.
[05:29] <pHreaksYcle> i love linux
[05:29] <Dracie> borgista, ok you need to mount your boot partition somewhere and then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:30] <borgista> it's mounted
[05:30] <mheath> I'm trying to connect to a Wireless network. In Windows, the required security settings involve configuring it to use TKIP and MSChapV2. In Ubuntu's NetworkManager, I see MSChapV2 related options but no TKIP. What am I missing?
[05:30] <borgista> i can access it Dracie
[05:30] <Dracie> borgista, open that file
[05:30] <L3Tum> tritium,  got it back, still no mouse
[05:30] <borgista> Dracie: I've got it open.
[05:31] <Dracie> borgista, do you know how to use pastebin?
[05:31] <tritium> L3Tum: any errors noted in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, particularly related to this issue?
[05:31] <borgista> Yes, Dracie
[05:31] <Dracie> L3Tum, also run dmesg | tail
[05:31] <Sw3RvE> i need Wi-Fi help...
[05:31] <Dracie> borgista, I want to see that file real quick before i start making you edit stuff
[05:31] <Huufarted> Problem guys:  I installed a gnome theme and untarred it not realizing it would overwrite  my current settings.  Any way to roll that back?
[05:31] <L3Tum> tritium, gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:32] <tritium> L3Tum: you can, if you like
[05:32] <borgista> http://pastebin.com/d64366a5d Dracie
[05:32] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, whats the error on installtion?
[05:32] <Sw3RvE> i never got an error. i would like to install wifi radar. i read that i could use it on xubuntu.
[05:33] <borgista> Dracie: /boot is /dev/sda5
[05:33] <bullgard4> What is a cgroup [= control group] as in http://pastebin.com/f6033690a?
[05:33] <Huufarted> How do I restore the default gnome theme?
[05:33] <Dracie> hey borgista so the part of the line starting with kernel needs to be changed at the root=UUID=c92201a0-dc8d-4fac-9cbc-ffa60c5129ca
[05:33] <borgista> What does it need to be Dracie?
[05:34] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted on ubuntu? or just Gnome
[05:34] <Dracie> change it to root=/dev/sda8 (or whatever your root partition is)
[05:34] <borgista> ok
[05:34] <Huufarted> Ubuntu's default gnome theme.
[05:34] <billybigrigger> !flash
[05:34] <borgista> Dracie: Is that all?
[05:34] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, pastebin the error
[05:34] <Dracie> borgista, yes then it should work
[05:34] <billybigrigger> haha dapper!?!?!
[05:34] <Huufarted> I untarred a theme and did not realize it would take effect immediately.
[05:34] <billybigrigger> wow
[05:35] <borgista> Ok, Dracie....I'll reboot then come back. Thanks!
[05:35] <L3Tum> tritium,  I don't see anything that looks promising in either of those
[05:35] <Sw3RvE> Dracie, i never had an error. i just need help installing Wi-Fi Radar.
[05:35] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, isn't it in the repositories
[05:35] <tritium> L3Tum: normally, serial mouse support is provided via the sermouse module.
[05:35] <Sw3RvE> im using Xubuntu. i searched Add/Remove and nothing came up.
[05:35] <Crayboff> restarting my computer didn't work in fixing firefox
[05:36] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, go into a console
[05:36] <Crayboff> fml
[05:36] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted if you mean on ubuntu, System->Preferences->Appearance and click the Human theme
[05:36] <Pengu1> Crayboff, what media player did you end up picking
[05:36] <Sw3RvE> ok
[05:36] <b1n42y> Huufarted: system>preferences>appearance
[05:36] <Huufarted> pHreaksYcle, what about the default panels?  It modified the panels as well
[05:36] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, do apt-cache search wifi radar
[05:36] <Dracie> does a package that your looking for come up?
[05:36] <Crayboff> pengul, i haven't put that much thought into it yet. right now i'm trying to fix my firefox
[05:36] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted google is your friend, let me check that really quick, i had to do it once
[05:36] <Huufarted> pHreaksYcle: changing the appearance and theme doesn't modify the panel layouts
[05:37] <Dracie> Crayboff, whats wrong with it?
[05:37] <Crayboff> anyone know how to fix firefox?
[05:37] <Sw3RvE> sw3rve@sw3rve-laptop:~$ apt-cache search wifi radar
[05:37] <Sw3RvE> wifi-radar - graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles
[05:37] <Pengu1> do you think it's something else doing it? or a problem with FF itself?
[05:37] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[05:37] <Huufarted> yeah I checked, phreaksycle, but haven't seen anything, yet.
[05:37] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted you have to delete that one settings folder for gnome
[05:37] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted gimme a sec
[05:37] <Dracie> I have never had an issue with firefox in linux except on rather slow machines
[05:37] <L3Tum> tritium, alright I'll try to do some more searching on sermouse. Thanks
[05:37] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie cool lol
[05:37] <Pengu1> Dracie he said his back and front button stopped working
[05:37] <Sw3RvE> Thank you Dracie!
[05:37] <Pengu1> and his bookmarks were messed up.
[05:37] <Dracie> L3Tum, did you consult the ubuntu wiki?
[05:38] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, no problem
[05:38] <tritium> L3Tum: otherwise, check into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf InputDevice section.
[05:38] <Dracie> tritium, that won't work unless he changes settings in hal
[05:38] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted Word. http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[05:38] <Crayboff> dracie, alright, when I open up firefox it gives me a blank screen and nothing in the URL bar (no about:blank). my bookmarks bar is gone, it says its there, but there is nothing in it and I can't add anything to it
[05:38] <Sw3RvE> now will it be in Add/Remove?
[05:38] <tritium> L3Tum: if need be, you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:38] <L3Tum> trit I have done that before, and didn't see a mouse section
[05:38] <Huufarted> pHreaksYcle: oh snap
[05:39] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted Long story short: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[05:39] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, i am totally not sure, you might want to look into using synaptic in System -> Administration -> Synpatic
[05:39] <Crayboff> dracie: also, I can't use the back/forward/refresh
[05:39] <L3Tum> tritium, I mean I have checked the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and no mouse section or inputdevice was in there
[05:39] <Dracie> Add/Remove only shows some packages
[05:39] <tritium> L3Tum: ok, never mind then
[05:39] <Huufarted> I see that, pHreaksYcle
[05:39] <Dracie> Crayboff, mv .firefox firefox.backup
[05:39] <Sw3RvE> where is that?
[05:39] <Dracie> then restart firefox
[05:39] <L3Tum> tritium, should there be one in there? I don't know how to add one
[05:40] <tritium> L3Tum: did you follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto ?
[05:40] <Sw3RvE> i have System...
[05:40] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted okay cool. didnt want to make you read haha
[05:40] <Crayboff> what do you want me to do with that?
[05:40] <Dracie> System -> Administration -> Synpatic
[05:40] <Sw3RvE> oh the package manager
[05:40] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, yup
[05:40] <Dracie> Crayboff, your config is probably meesing you up
[05:40] <tritium> Dracie: it should work
[05:40] <Crayboff> alright, so what do you want me to do with it?
[05:40] <Dracie> tritium, configs kill everything
[05:40] <Dracie> Crayboff, just move it from .mozilla
[05:40] <Dracie> back it up
[05:41] <Dracie> and restart firefox
[05:41] <APALAH_ARTINYA_N> cE_pLanEth
[05:41] <Dracie> anyone here use a custom kernel in ubuntu?
[05:41] <Sw3RvE> ok im in Synaptic. it looks like its already applied?
[05:41] <pHreaksYcle> @Huufarted, did it work??
[05:41] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, Sorry I meant to just show you that way of managing packages - its more advanced than add/remove
[05:42] <Crayboff> dracie, now i can't even find it, where is it?
[05:42] <tritium> Dracie: that's such a vague response, I don't know what you are referring to
[05:42] <Dracie> Crayboff, control + h if your in the file browser
[05:42] <L3Tum> tritium, I didn't see that before, I saw some similar and entered Section "InputDevice"   Identifier "Generic Mouse"  Driver "Mouse"   EndSection (on their own lines of course) but this did not help. I'll try to edit to exactly what this link says
[05:42] <Crayboff> no, no, what folder is it in?
[05:42] <Crayboff> /home/usrname/? dracie?
[05:42] <Sw3RvE> its cool. how do i use wi-fi radar now. it says Section: Networking Universe
[05:42] <Dracie> Crayboff, /home/username/
[05:42] <Dracie> yup
[05:43] <tritium> L3Tum: ok
[05:43] <Sw3RvE> so far the wifi thing is the only thing i dont like about xubuntu. overall i think its way better than ubuntu :)
[05:43] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, thats cool =]
[05:44] <pHreaksYcle> @Sw3RvE I miss certain things about GNOME when i leave
[05:44] <Dracie> Crayboff, do you see the .mozilla file
[05:44] <pHreaksYcle> @Sw3RvE it makes me sad
[05:44] <Dracie> you have to enable view hiddle files
[05:44] <Sw3RvE> so how do i run it now. i cant find it...
[05:44] <Crayboff> dracie, yes i am there
[05:44] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, wifi radar?
[05:44] <rob1336> i do like the gnome also
[05:44] <Sw3RvE> yes dracie. where in the world is it. lol
[05:44] <Dracie> Crayboff, ok then restart firefox once you moved .mozilla out of that name
[05:44] <pHreaksYcle> @rob1336 lol good to hear, ur in the right place
[05:44] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, not sure probably in the Applicatoins menu
[05:45] <Dracie> sorry guys but I am doing this all from memory, i am on Backtrack 3 lol
[05:45] <Crayboff> dracie, wait, do you want me to change the .mozilla name?
[05:45] <Sw3RvE> its not in there dracie. do i need to reboot or something?
[05:45] <Crayboff> ohh, nvm you want me to move it out of my /home/usr
[05:45] <Dracie> Crayboff, yes to something like say .mozilla-backup
[05:45] <Crayboff> username
[05:46] <Dracie> Crayboff, it doesn't matter just as long as if you keep it in home/username name it something else
[05:46] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, might be in System -> Admin
[05:46] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff just like drag it to the friggin desktop lol
[05:46] <Sw3RvE> There is no Admin tab in System.
[05:47] <tritium> Sw3RvE: Administration
[05:47] <Dracie> oh yeah Xubuntu's interface is different
[05:47] <Crayboff> alright, i did drag it to the desktop
[05:47] <Sw3RvE> they dont have that. im using Xubuntu.
[05:47] <Crayboff> uhoh
[05:47] <Dracie> Crayboff, does it work now
[05:48] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff lol, it's back to default right? supposed to be ur settings are not where they're supposed to be
[05:48] <Crayboff> yes
[05:48] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff it made a new set of config files, but you can set it back later if you want
[05:48] <Dracie> so it works?
[05:48] <Sw3RvE> grrr
[05:48] <azlon> my close, minimize and maximize buttons are on the left, how can i change them to the right?
[05:48] <Sw3RvE> i feel like elmer fudd. im never going to find this rabbit. lol
[05:48] <Dracie> lol
[05:48] <Crayboff> Dracie: do I have to redownload all of the addons and the themes?
[05:49] <Dracie> Crayboff, no you can recombine the addons i think
[05:49] <Crayboff> so like drag it over?
[05:49] <Dracie> -_- i wish i knew how
[05:49] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff indeed
[05:49] <Dracie> lolz
[05:49] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff just find the folder with the addons in it
[05:49] <pHreaksYcle> hang on, ill tell you
[05:50] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff probably the one that says extensions, huh?
[05:50] <Sw3RvE> i installed and upgraded open office 3.0. i didnt have this problem with that.
[05:50] <Crayboff> pHreaksYcle: well if you look in the other folder you'll find all of the info for the addons
[05:50] <Sw3RvE> i cant find wifi radar... :(
[05:50] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, it'll be somewhere in the menu
[05:50] <Dracie> what about networking
[05:51] <Sw3RvE> its not in there. thats the first place i looked.
[05:51] <pHreaksYcle> @Sw3RvE its not that we dont love you, but perhaps you'd be better off in the Xubuntu channel??
[05:51] <Sw3RvE> they have one?
[05:51] <tritium> Sw3RvE: #xubuntu
[05:51] <Sw3RvE> oh lol
[05:51] <pHreaksYcle> @Sw3RvE i guess this means i win :P
[05:52] <pHreaksYcle> @Sw3RvE good luck
[05:52] <Sw3RvE> ill try there. thanks for the help. at least its installed i think lol
[05:52] <pHreaksYcle> well that makes me feel better
[05:52] <quentusrex> Help. Ubuntu has broke after an update...
[05:52] <Sw3RvE> grrr its not on my Xchat list.
[05:52] <quentusrex> in particular it seems GDM broke.
[05:53] <tritium> quentusrex: please be more specific
[05:53] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex explain
[05:53] <tritium> Sw3RvE: /join #xubuntu
[05:53] <Sw3RvE> whats the command to join another chat. i used to know it.
[05:53] <pHreaksYcle> @Sw3RvE haha. . .
[05:53] <quentusrex> I boot up just fine. But when I log in, I get an error that I should contact a system admin because the Power Management Settings are not configured properly.
[05:53] <Sw3RvE> man this chat is a ghost town. no ones talking. lol
[05:54] <Sw3RvE> the xubuntu one...
[05:54] <quentusrex> Then the gdm panels don't appear, the two applications(pidgin and thunderbird) that I have setup to auto start, start. But there isn't the title bar(with the minimize, and close boxes)
[05:54] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex what laptop
[05:54] <quentusrex> None of the icons or desktop wall paper show up.
[05:54] <quentusrex> It's a desk top...
[05:55] <Sw3RvE> how do i add the xubuntu chat to my server list?
[05:55] <tritium> Sw3RvE: depends on your IRC client
[05:55] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex then ur hosed lol. BIOS and a reinstall sounds about right
[05:55] <Sw3RvE> Xchat
[05:55] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex at least, that's how i would fix it.
[05:55] <tritium> quentusrex: note that the panels are not part of gdm, actually.  gdm is simply the graphicla login manager
[05:55] <Aly> What do I do if Ubuntu won't allow me to download any plugins in order to get on the internet, and if practically nothing will work and it won't let me do anything because of no disk space apparently but it won't let me remove files or anything? It also won't allow me to create other accounts...I've tried recovery and everything, it won't do anything, and it's becoming so irritating.
[05:55] <tritium> !ur | pHreaksYcle
[05:55] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, if you want it in the menu look @ /usr/share/applications   - i think
[05:56] <pHreaksYcle> @ubottu I will fight you
[05:56] <azlon> my close, minimize and maximize buttons are on the left, how can i change them to the right?
[05:56] <quentusrex> tritium: Then it might not be GDM. Something is borked...  I can't afford to wipe and reinstall...
[05:56] <tritium> quentusrex: that is rarely necessary
[05:56] <pHreaksYcle> !kindness | ubottu
[05:57] <pHreaksYcle> @ubottu i know :P
[05:57] <quentusrex> tritium: Alright, it seems I can't type any letters(they don't show up) but ctrl+alt+backspace still restarts X.
[05:57] <pHreaksYcle> wired keyboard?
[05:57] <Sw3RvE> /usr/share/applications   <<<< put that in terminal?
[05:57] <quentusrex> yes, wired keyboard.
[05:57] <pHreaksYcle> after you get logged in
[05:57] <pHreaksYcle> unplug
[05:57] <pHreaksYcle> and replug
[05:57] <quentusrex> the keyboard works find to login.
[05:57] <Sw3RvE> or are you referring to Xchat?
[05:58] <tritium> !enter | pHreaksYcle
[05:58] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium i guess this means you are a vet.
[05:58] <tritium> quentusrex: this behavior started when?
[05:58] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: no, but I do love animals
[05:58] <quentusrex> tritium: I just rebooted an hour ago after an upgrade...
[05:59] <quentusrex> tritium: I can still type. just not into thunderbird... Pidgin works still...
[05:59] <quentusrex> it's really weird...
[05:59] <tritium> quentusrex: which release?  Which packages were upgraded?
[05:59] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium lol. i wasn't trying to be a d when i asked if it was 13+
[05:59] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium cut me a break
[05:59] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, look in that dir the menu items are files that end in .desktop
[05:59] <quentusrex> tritium: 8.10 and I don't remember which packages...
[05:59] <L3Tum> tritium, I have done everything on that page, and nothing has worked. Actually, the last thing on that page says to enter through until I get to the part with the mouse and it has no section for the mouse, like the mouse doesn't exist at all.
[06:00] <quentusrex> tritium: I have tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm and that didn't do anything...
[06:00] <tritium> quentusrex: I wouldn't expect that to.  Have you restarted gdm at all?  have you rebooted at all?
[06:00] <Sw3RvE> oh i see you meant in the directory
[06:00] <quentusrex> is there a different package I should reconfigure? I tried to boot into failsafe gnome, and it was still the same problem.
[06:01] <quentusrex> tritium: I've rebooted about 6 times...
[06:01] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, there may be one for the app you installed, just need to add it to the proper group
[06:01] <quentusrex> and ctrl+alt+backspace about a dozen times.
[06:01] <Sw3RvE> i found it.
[06:01] <tritium> L3Tum: hmm, puzzling
[06:01] <Sw3RvE> i right clicked and clicked execute and it didnt work. i got an error.
[06:01] <tritium> quentusrex: fair enough
[06:01] <ScottG489> Is there I way I can effectively write 2 separate commands on 1 line? Like say I want to "killall <process>" and then on the same line start it again. How would I split it up?
[06:01] <quentusrex> tritium: What controls the panels, and the 'frame' for the windows?
[06:02] <pHreaksYcle> gnome
[06:02] <ScottG489> nvm
[06:02] <tritium> ScottG489: with && in between
[06:02] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex gnome-panel or panels is the process i believe
[06:02] <jtaji> ScottG489: cmd1 && cmd2 will only execute cmd2 if cmd1 is successfull, you might want cmd1; cmd2, which will run cmd2 regardless
[06:02] <Sw3RvE> Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory).
[06:02] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, you will need to edit the file, look at a similar .desktop file
[06:02] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex it's gnome-panel
[06:03] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium correct?
[06:03] <Aly> It won't let me do any of the updates.
[06:03] <Sw3RvE> atom^x such as??
[06:03] <quentusrex> I've sshed into the desktop from another machine...
[06:03] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: yes
[06:04] <Dracie> Sw3RvE, if you want to have something like root # just do sudo -i
[06:04] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, try reading up here ->http://wiki.xfce.org/faq
[06:04] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex if you end gnome-panel it should restart automagically
[06:04] <pHreaksYcle> kill or w/e
[06:04] <Sw3RvE> what section do i read?
[06:05] <tritium> quentusrex: sounds like this problem may be affecting others, from what I'm learning
[06:05] <quentusrex> pHreaksYcle: gnome-panels isn't running
[06:05] <Seraph787> hello
[06:05] <Seraph787> anybody know anything about USB sound cards?
[06:06] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex well, the obvious choice would be to start it with the command gnome-panel
[06:06] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex unless you have an objection to this for some reason?
[06:06] <tritium> quentusrex: no trailing "s"
[06:06] <Seraph787> mine is spitting out "not enough bandwidth" to dmesg
[06:06] <quentusrex> sure, I'll start it manually...
[06:06] <pHreaksYcle> @Seraph787 bandwidth of sound. . . ?
[06:06] <Seraph787> USB
[06:07] <Seraph787> I think it might have to do with thinking its a different device
[06:07] <Melik> my sound just randomly stopped working, how can i restart my sound services?
[06:07] <Seraph787> It says "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset"
[06:07] <pHreaksYcle> @Seraph787 as i know nothing of the subject, I will entertain you with a question
[06:07] <Seraph787> but its actually a cm106 sound card
[06:07] <pHreaksYcle> @Seraph787 why would you use a USB sound card
[06:07] <Seraph787> Cause it has 5.1 sound
[06:07] <Seraph787> and my laptop does not
[06:07] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, dont remember right off, look for .desktop file references
[06:07] <pHreaksYcle> @Seraph787 o i c. thank you.
[06:07] <Dracie> anyone here rebuild their ubuntu kernel?
[06:08] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: you keep causing my morse code script to decode your ". . ." as "EE"
[06:08] <Melik> my sound just randomly stopped working, how can i get my sound working again without restarting my computer?
[06:08] <Seraph787> Melik: which sound services
[06:08] <Seraph787> you have alsa, pulse audio
[06:08] <Seraph787> esd
[06:08] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium it's correct english :P
[06:08] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: er, ". .", rather
[06:08] <Melik> Seraph787, honestly i dont know i did sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop and then start
[06:08] <Sw3RvE> "Setting up GDM" ???
[06:08] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium sorry ill try to remember this
[06:08] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: no, ellipses don't have spaces in-between
[06:08] <Melik> but it still wont work, i think its alsa
[06:09] <Seraph787> most likely
[06:09] <Seraph787> check the system messages
[06:09] <quentusrex> tritium: how do I open a terminal? is there a short cut key for that?
[06:09] <Seraph787> brb
[06:09] <Melik> how can i restart alsa service?
[06:09] <quentusrex> or open a terminal on a different display
[06:09] <tritium> quentusrex: Alt-F2, then type gnome-terminal
[06:09] <quentusrex> alt-f2 does not respond.
[06:10] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, look here ->http://wiki.xfce.org/tips   --under adding an application
[06:10] <chelz> how risky is it to use debian debs, say from debian experimental, in intrepid?
[06:10] <Sw3RvE> atom^x someone in the xubuntu is helping me. if it doesnt work i'll read that and try.
[06:10] <tritium> chelz: you should not.  Which packages do you need?
[06:10] <quentusrex> tritium: Is there a way to have it open a terminal on login?
[06:10] <Sw3RvE> im editing the text file.
[06:10] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium lol Most style guides call for a space between the dots. Typesetters and page designers use something called a thin space or a non-breaking space that prevents the ellipsis points from getting spread over two lines in a document
[06:11] <Angelus_Delapsus> How does one cd to a removeable drive in shell. Due to a crash I can't login, and i'm trying to copy all my files in my documents to my external
[06:11] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium all in good humor :P
[06:11] <savvas> chelz: try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas first
[06:11] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: ok, but please keep it short, or on topic
[06:11] <chelz> tritium: virt-manager 0.6.1  i'm trying to get rid of some issues and i'm hoping using a later version would help
[06:11] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium what exactly does your "morse code" script do
[06:11] <chelz> savvas: https://launchpad.net/~saispo/+archive/ppa/+build/863791 i did see this, i'm not sure how to use it though
[06:12] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: encode and decode morse code (it's an irssi script)
[06:12] <Sw3RvE> thanks for that link. i bookmarked it.
[06:12] <tritium> chelz: you'd be better off pulling in the source package from jaunty, and building it on intrepid
[06:12] <Angelus_Delapsus> All: How does one cd to a removeable drive in shell. Due to a crash I can't login, and i'm trying to copy all my files in my documents to my external
[06:12] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium that's neat. is it like a secret thing you do with some people or something?
[06:12] <chelz> tritium: alright. thanks for the help. :)
[06:13] <tritium> !info virt-manager jaunty
[06:13] <tritium> chelz: ^^
[06:13] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: nope
[06:13] <savvas> chelz: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=virt-manager - each ppa has its own page with a description and deb repository info
[06:13] <atom^x> Sw3RvE, no prob
[06:13] <chelz> savvas: ah, ty
[06:13] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium a novelty?
[06:14] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: just one of the scripts that comes with irssi-scripts
[06:14] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium never heard of this irssi. google time.
[06:14] <quentusrex> tritium: do you know of another way to open a terminal? alt+f2 doesn't respond...
[06:14] <Angelus_Delapsus> phreaks: ircii is the program used in terminal to use irc
[06:14] <latit> Angelus_Delapsus, mount it
[06:14] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: ssh + screen + irssi is a very convenient combination
[06:15] <Angelus_Delapsus> mount E:
[06:15] <Angelus_Delapsus> that sort of thing?
[06:15] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex there's a way you can drop into a fullscreen one with Fsomething and another modifier key
[06:15] <tritium> quentusrex: remind me.  You're in gnome?
[06:16] <quentusrex> tritium: yes.
[06:16] <quentusrex> how do I list all displays from the command line?
[06:16] <bnagy> dammit, apt is trying to hose my system again
[06:16] <tritium> quentusrex: if Alt-F2 doesn't open a dialog, something else is going on as well
[06:16] <bnagy> xulrunner1.9 wouldn
[06:16] <chelz> https://edge.launchpad.net/~saispo/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/490669/+listing-archive-extra - why isn't the i386 link working..?
[06:16] <bnagy> 't install, removed it, that somehow removed sudo
[06:16] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium you know what im talking about??
[06:16] <chelz> #  virt-manager_0.6.1-1ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb i mean
[06:16] <bnagy> which is bad
[06:17] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: Ctrl-Alt-F#, to switch to virtual console #.  Is that what you're referring to?
[06:17] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium indeed.
[06:17] <quentusrex> tritium: any ideas?
[06:18] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex Ctrl-Alt-F2 will get you a command line, but it moves the whole screen to it
[06:18] <Crayboff> g'night all ya
[06:18] <Crayboff> thanks for all ya help
[06:18] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex so be sure you're set before you go
[06:18] <savvas> chelz: as I said, you should visit the ppa page, you would see the deb source http link: http://ppa.launchpad.net/saispo/ppa/ubuntu - http://ppa.launchpad.net/saispo/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/v/virt-manager/
[06:18] <pHreaksYcle> @Crayboff no problem, see ya
[06:18] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: nothing wrong with V.C. #1, you know
[06:19] <tritium> chelz, savvas: good to know.  I didn't realize there was a PPA for virt-manager
[06:19] <quentusrex> pHreaksYcle: I did that... but that is no more help than the ssh session...
[06:19] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium i do know haha. f2 is built into my muscle pattern better, therefore its my default
[06:19] <chelz> savvas: ahh. ty :D
[06:19] <tritium> The jaunty source package is sitll an option, as well, of course.
[06:19] <Dracie_> ugh BT3 totally froze up
[06:19] <savvas> tritium: it's not official, it's a personal package of someone there :P
[06:19] <chelz> tritium: yeah. hoping this works though
[06:19] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex what are you trying to do in the command line again? i missed that part
[06:19] <quentusrex> tritium: what is suppose to start after gdm?
[06:19] <bnagy> so.. anyone? how to get sudo back without sudo?
[06:19] <tritium> savvas: understood
[06:19] <quentusrex> pHreaksYcle: I'm trying to get a list of active displays
[06:20] <tritium> bnagy: how did you "lose" sudo?
[06:20] <bnagy> apt hates me
[06:20] <tritium> quentusrex: many things
[06:20] <tritium> bnagy: serious answer, please
[06:20] <bnagy> xulrunner 1.9 wouldn't install, removed it to try and reinstall
[06:20] <bnagy> somehow that killed sudo in the process
[06:20] <savvas> bnagy: how did you lose sudo in the first place?
[06:20] <quibbler> bnagy: i just recieved sudo as an update...try in terminal  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:20] <bnagy> which I didn't expect :(
[06:20] <Dexi> is there an easy way to recover a deleted file? like a tool i can download?
[06:20] <pHreaksYcle> @quibbler HE CAN'T SUDO
[06:21] <pHreaksYcle> @quibbler lmao
[06:21] <bnagy> quibbler: start at the start - no sudo ;)
[06:21] <pHreaksYcle> @all we rely on sudo too much haha
[06:21] <bnagy> my greater problem is that I have corrupted package files, like often
[06:21] <tritium> bnagy: you're suggesting you don't have "sudo" installed?  Please verify with "apt-cache policy sudo"
[06:21] <Myrtti> pHreaksYcle: I don't find this funny
[06:21] <bnagy> but anyway, that comes and goes
[06:21] <pHreaksYcle> @Myrtti sorry to hear that.
[06:21] <Dracie_> woops I fail i killed my dri
[06:21] <savvas> bnagy: boot using the live cd, mount your root "/" partition, edit the etc/sudoers file in there
[06:22] <bnagy> tritium: it says it's there
[06:22] <savvas> bnagy: or.. reboot your pc to the recovery option
[06:22] <tritium> bnagy: ok, now please describe what you observe, then, in trying to use sudo
[06:22] <tritium> bnagy: also, what version do you have?
[06:22] <B1OS> ahh
[06:22] <bnagy> The program 'sudo' can be found in the following packages: * sudo
[06:23] <pHreaksYcle> @bnagy sounds like failure to me.
[06:23] <bnagy> 1.6.9p17-1ubuntu2.1
[06:23] <chelz> tritium: is there a way to install only virt-manager and its dependencies from jaunty repos but not have it try to update all the packages i already have?
[06:23] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie what do you mean
[06:23] <B1OS> i just pressed ctrl+alt+F2 in the terminal, how do i get out lol :D
[06:24] <Milkeh> how to I apply a .patch file
[06:24] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: I tried to build my own kernel for a couple reasons but somehwere inthe cycle I ruined my nvidia module stuff
[06:24] <savvas> B1OS: ctrl-alt-F7
[06:24] <bnagy> tritium: but there's no sudo in /etc/bin or /etc/sbin
[06:24] <Dracie_> lol
[06:24] <tritium> chelz: that depends on the dependencies.  that's why I advised you just build it from source package
[06:24] <tritium> bnagy: one moment, please
[06:24] <bnagy> np
[06:24] <B1OS> savvas: thanks :)
[06:24] <chelz> tritium: well it has a lot of dependencies. takes a while to grab all the debs myself
[06:24] <Dracie_> man there should be a distro just designed to install other distros
[06:25] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie yeah that blows
[06:25] <tritium> chelz: build dependencies?
[06:25] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie i try to stay out of that hardcore stuff.
[06:25] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: yeah I'll handle it but yeah lol, etqw fails without realtime kernel support
[06:25] <Milkeh> does anybody know how to apply a .patch file?
[06:25] <bnagy> Milkeh: man patch?
[06:25] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: If you haven't got it already, active screens and all their gory details can be had with: xdpyinfo
[06:25] <chelz> tritium: yeah. like the versions of the ones i already have installed through intrepid repos aren't late enough
[06:25] <savvas> bnagy: I already told you what to do, reboot your computer, in the boot options choose the "ubuntu ... (recovery mode)" - you will have root privileges and do whatever necessary.
[06:25] <tritium> !patch | Milkeh
[06:26] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: unable to run it, because it can't open display...
[06:26] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Ahhh!
[06:26] <Milkeh> bnagy, I have a pidgin script that doesn't work with my version of banshee but somebody made a patch for it, I just don't know how to apply it.
[06:26] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium how do  you ever log off of this? its ADDICTING
[06:26] <tritium> chelz: I see what you mean, looking at the depends myself
[06:26] <|PiP|> would running background processes use less memory if they are triggered by a controller action when using passenger?
[06:26] <bnagy> savvas: hm, ok - I didn't see any boot options last time, will look again properly
[06:26] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: I don't log off (part of the advantage of screen + irssi).  I can connect from anywhere via ssh.
[06:27] <savvas> bnagy: pressing Esc while booting might help:)
[06:27] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium that's sickness. how long have you been running this show
[06:27] <obf213> firefox doesn't register pluging changes i want to use vlc plugin for wmv files and asf, so i select the pluging it but its like it doesn't register me selecting and it doesnt show up as an option
[06:27] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: I'm not the only op, but I've been one since 2005
[06:27] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium i figured you weren't god, but at least his friend
[06:28] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium good for you, hardened warrior. that's cool to help people
[06:28] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: I'm not active all the time, I just /away when I need.
[06:28] <B10S> wheres a good place to read up on securing my ubuntu web server?
[06:28] <Zlogger> hi
[06:28] <quentusrex> tritium: do you know where I can go for help figuring out what broke? and how to fix it?
[06:29] <tritium> quentusrex: a couple of us are looking into it now.
[06:29] <pHreaksYcle> @B10S digg. google. search for securing ubuntu server. either site should help
[06:29] <quentusrex> tritium: thanks.
[06:29] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Are you stuck without Xorg then?
[06:29] <Dracie_> heh I messed so much stuff its almost worth to reinstall
[06:29] <Milkeh> tritium, I have a pidgin script that doesn't work with my version of banshee but somebody made a patch for it, I just don't know how to apply it.
[06:29] <B1OS> okies
[06:29] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie I love reinstalling
[06:29] <Maged> Hi, I have a question about connecting to my site using FTP
[06:29] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh what script
[06:29] <tritium> Milkeh: patches are applied to source.  Are you recompiling it?
[06:29] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: its pretty nice and simple in ubuntu lolz, gentoo isn't too hard to me after awhile
[06:30] <Dracie_> btw gentoo fails - their ops banned me because my router is exploitable - losers
[06:30] <Maged> Failed to retrieve directory listing --->>>>>>>>What this error is about?
[06:30] <axscode> what to install to make ubuntu support squashfs mounting?
[06:30] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: I can get to the login screen. I can login. Thunderbird and Pidgin auto start, but they don't have any title bar(or the boxes for minimize or close) no background wall paper, no icons, no tray bar. alt+f2 doesn't start the application launcher, etc.
[06:30] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie im a lazy user. ive never touched gentoo. only other distro ive used is puppy. on a PC without USB or ethernet
[06:30] <Maged> ...
[06:30] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Ahhh ok... so no window decorator
[06:30] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, MusicTracker
[06:30] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: I do get an error about gnome power management is no longer configured properly.
[06:31] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: yeah I am a nerdy nerd ^_^
[06:31] <Milkeh> tritium, what do you mean b recompiling it?
[06:31] <axscode> i have a squashfs image, i wanted to mount it, what do i need to install to support squash?
[06:31] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: can I start the window decorator from remote ssh session?
[06:31] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh that's a plugin my friend. grab the newest version
[06:31] <tritium> Milkeh: building it from source code
[06:31] <Maged> Do anyone see what I am writing??????????????
[06:31] <Dracie_> too bad musictracker doesn't work with banshee 1<
[06:31] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Have you tried creating a new, fresh, user profile and logging in with that? If that works, at least you know the issue is a per-profile configuration issue, not system-wide
[06:31] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh it DOES work with banshee
[06:31] <Dracie_> Maged: what are you writing?
[06:31] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, I have the newest version of the plugin, I just need to apply the patch
[06:31] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie i'm using it right now on banshee
[06:31] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: can you walk me through that process? from remote command line?
[06:31] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, I read that it doesn't work with the newer versions of banshee
[06:32] <Maged> Failed to retrieve directory listing  ------->>>> what is this error about when trying to connect to my site through FTP
[06:32] <Ienorand> how can I use basic command "find" non-verbosly, terminal?
[06:32] <sastha> i got a "Protocol error" message when i try to mount share folders in Virtual Box
[06:32] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh i'm using banshee 1.4.2
[06:32] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh works fine for me
[06:32] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Sure, but let me be clear; you do also have keyboard/screen access to the affected PC?
[06:32] <Dracie_> Maged: hmm i wish i could help =\ i haven't really used ftp
[06:32] <Maged> Dracie_: Failed to retrieve directory listing ------->>>> what is this error about when trying to connect to my site through FTP
[06:32] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: yes, I do...
[06:32] <world_citizen> how can I install java on firefox?
[06:33] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: using musictracker n banshee 1.4.2???
[06:33] <Maged>  :(
[06:33] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen you dont do it thru firefox, its a package for the whole system i believe
[06:33] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: ok... to create a new user from the command-line: "sudo adduser testuser"
[06:33] <sastha> How to resolve "Protocol error",while mounting Shared folders?
[06:33] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie yes sir
[06:33] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: hmm maybe my config is naughty
[06:33] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Restart Gnome using "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[06:33] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: what client are you using, that puts the @ in front of each nick?
[06:33] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: And, try logging in as "testuser"
[06:33] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: running off the banshee dev repo?
[06:33] <savvas> world_citizen: install package sun-java6-jre from System > Administration > Synaptic
[06:33] <axscode> i have a squashfs image, i wanted to mount it, what do i need to install to support squash?
[06:34] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie right
[06:34] <pHreaksYcle> @Dracie at least, i think so
[06:34] <world_citizen> savvas & pHreaksYcle: thanks
[06:34] <atom^x> !squashfs-tools
[06:34] <aj_> mandar
[06:34] <Dracie_> pHreaksYcle: hmm ok sounds like I need to revisit my stuff
[06:34] <sastha> How to resolve "Protocol error"?
[06:34] <lvlefisto> world_citizen: also google around to install java plugin for mozilla
[06:34] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen u got it
[06:34] <savvas> world_citizen: ah on firefox.. that's a bit tricky - I think icedtea6-plugin package is required
[06:35] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, oh I'm using banshee 1.2.1, could this be why?
[06:35] <Dracie_> savvas: I don't htink so
[06:35] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh maybe. worth a shot.
[06:35] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen command is listed here http://www.ubuntumini.com/2008/10/reinstallng-codecs.html
[06:35] <sastha> hello anybody know,how to resolve "Protocol error" in Shared Folders?
[06:35] <savvas> Dracie_: I don't know, I don't use it :)
[06:36] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha google :P also, explain your problem more
[06:36] <Dracie_> savvas: yes I don't use java much at all either
[06:36] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha also, what are you trying to do
[06:36] <bnagy> damn
[06:36] <mandar> I installed ubuntu 8.10. how to install compiz setting manager?? i tried synaptic but compiz setting manager is not there on the list
[06:36] <bnagy> savvas: OK, booted recovery, but the root prompt doesn't seem to turn on my eth0
[06:36] <roy_hobbs> I'm having trouble getting gedit's open location feature to work.  I can do this over ssh right?  What's the syntax?
[06:36] <quentusrex> oops.
[06:36] <quentusrex> rebooted the wrong computer...
[06:37] <bnagy> ifup eth0 didn't seem to work...
[06:37] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex lol
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: lol doh! :D
[06:37] <Dracie_> roy_hobbs: did you do ssh -X host ?
[06:37] <savvas> bnagy: which release are you using?
[06:37] <atom^x> !ccsm
[06:37] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: I added the user, and restarted gdm same problem for both users.
[06:37] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: actually in Virtual box,Windows XP is the host and Ubuntu runs as Guest.I tried to get the Shared folders from XP to Ubuntu.
[06:37] <savvas> bnagy: have you tried "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" ?
[06:37] <roy_hobbs> Dracie_: no, i mean from within gedit
[06:37] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha do you have samba installed on ubuntu
[06:37] <bnagy> savvas: nope, never heard of that command :)
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: That's good... now you know it is a system-wide issue. What Ubuntu release, machine architecture, and kernel version is it?
[06:37] <bnagy> I came from gentoo
[06:37] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: no
[06:38] <roy_hobbs> I think you can do things like sftp://user@host
[06:38] <bnagy> :)
[06:38] <savvas> bnagy: ok, which release are you using now?
[06:38] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha oops
[06:38] <world_citizen> ah thanks everybody, installing the extras :)
[06:38] <bnagy> easy peasy or whatever 8.1 for netbooks
[06:38] <Dracie_> roy_hobbs: ho clue sorry =[
[06:38] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: Ubuntu 8.10 Linux quentusrex-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:38] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen you like that site? i'm the editor and it makes me happy haha
[06:38] <b0rk3d> quick question
[06:38] <b0rk3d> why is my xvids blue?
[06:38] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: i used the command 'sudo mount -t vboxsf sharedfolder locationtosavefolder'
[06:38] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: What video chipset does the PC have? What driver are you using - is it a proprietary driver?
[06:38] <vf1j> Hello I am trying to get my printer configured on cups and need a ppd file for my hp10, anyone know how I can get it?
[06:38] <vf1j> hp1020
[06:38] <bnagy> I mean I have heard of ... start, but I didn't have a 'networking' script previously. :) Anyway, will try that
[06:38] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: but i throws me "Protocol error"
[06:39] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz dual core.
[06:39] <savvas> bnagy: hm? I didn't understand - can you give me the link you got your ubuntu release from?
[06:39] <Dracie_> well time to reinstall =]
[06:39] <axscode> i have a squashfs image, i wanted to mount it, what do i need to install to support squash? <--- HELP!
[06:39] <world_citizen> pHreaksYcle: I do now, that article is a life-saver :)
[06:39] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: Can u help me?How to install SAMBA?
[06:39] <bnagy> savvas: it's a release for Asus EEE PC netbooks
[06:39] <tritium> !samba | sastha
[06:39] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: VGA: 04:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[06:39] <bnagy> but it's 8.1
[06:39] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha u need samba. gimme a sec, i have an article on that too :P
[06:39] <atom^x> !ccsm > mandar
[06:39] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: k :)
[06:39] <tritium> bnagy: that would have been useful info before.  You're not running official ubuntu?
[06:39] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/01/quick-dirty-samba-guide.html
[06:39] <savvas> bnagy: 32-bit or 64-bit?
[06:39] <bnagy> savvas: I'd give you a link, but xulrunner is dead so firefox is dead etc etc
[06:39] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Great... are you (trying) to use a proprietary fglx driver ?
[06:39] <bnagy> 32
[06:39] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: I'm using the open source driver I'm pretty sure. Because the closed source ati driver doesn't support my card any more.
[06:40] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: okay, that might help :)
[06:40] <bnagy> tritium: I don't know about official - it's just ubuntu
[06:40] <atom^x> !squashfs-tools
[06:40] <savvas> bnagy: download this to someplace handy: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.6.9p17-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[06:40] <bnagy> AFAIR it's run by the ubuntu peeps
[06:40] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: but I do remember seeing a fglx-modaliases package when I was upgrading...
[06:40] <pHreaksYcle> @atom^x lol how many times are ya gona try that
[06:40] <sastha> pHreaksYcle: Thanks.But do you know how to resolve this "Protocol error"?
[06:40] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: so that might have broke something...
[06:41] <bnagy>  wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.6.9p17-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[06:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pidgin is overlapping with another desktop and when I try to Maximize it it just shifts back and forth .... how do I get it to fit the screen?
[06:41] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Have you reviewed the log-files when GDM starts? /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/gdm/:0.log and /var/log/gdm/failsafe.log
[06:41] <pHreaksYcle> @sastha how can i explain this, the protocal is SMB
[06:41] <vf1j> Anyone work with the cups website?
[06:41] <pHreaksYcle> samba
[06:41] <vf1j> To configure the printer?
[06:41] <pHreaksYcle> if you dont have samba, the protocol will throw an error
[06:41] <atom^x> pHreaksYcle, 1 for squashfs and 1 for squashfs-tools
[06:41] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: You might be onto something with that reference to fglx - keep it in mind
[06:41] <Scunizi> vf1
[06:41] <vf1j> Scunizi
[06:41] <pHreaksYcle> @atom^x o okay lol
[06:41] <Scunizi> vf1j: localhost:631
[06:42] <bnagy> savvas: OK, got it
[06:42] <savvas> bnagy: it's a terminal command, execute it: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.6.9p17-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb -O /root/sudo.deb
[06:42] <extreme_> os[Linux 2.6.27-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "intrepid" 8.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.79GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 75.7% free] disk[Total: 320.1GB, 39.9% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT] sound[EMU10K1X - Dell Sound Blaster Live!]
[06:42] <vf1j> Scunizi: I do not understand
[06:42] <extreme_> why does it only see 3 gigs
[06:42] <spree> I have an issue. I have an OOOOOLD Automatix installation. I installed Swiftweasel with it. I want to remove swiftweasel and install the new version properly. I am running Intrepid. I also need to uninstall Automatix and have no clue how to go about doing it
[06:42] <extreme_> when i have 4 in it?
[06:42] <savvas> bnagy: ah wait, no sudo.. heh
[06:42] <bnagy> savvas: yeah, sry the paste was terminal fart
[06:42] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ 32BIT
[06:42] <Scunizi> vf1j: open firefox and use that as the address to get to Cups
[06:42] <savvas> bnagy: I trust that you know the directory it is in now, right?
[06:42] <extreme_> x86_64 is 32 bit?!
[06:42] <bnagy> can I install it in my home dir and run it?
[06:42] <bnagy> yep
[06:42] <vf1j> Scunizi: Yes, sorry--that is the site I am on!
[06:43] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ lol
[06:43] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: the only interesting thing, and it was the last thing in the logs: AUDIT: Tue Feb 17 22:36:45 2009: 8581 X: client 4 rejected from local host ( uid=0 gid=0 pid=8635 )
[06:43] <vf1j> Scunizi: There is a drop file and the HP1020 is not there
[06:43] <extreme_> wait i'm so fucking confused
[06:43] <extreme_> please explain
[06:43] <vf1j> Scunizi: So it says alternately provide a ppd file
[06:43] <extreme_> errr freaking
[06:43] <extreme_> sorry
[06:43] <tritium> !language | extreme_
[06:43] <FloodBot2> extreme_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ are you using 64 bit? if not, that's why
[06:43] <savvas> bnagy: ok, reboot back in recovery mode and install sudo: dpkg -i /path/to/sudo_1.6.9p17-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[06:43] <bnagy> savvas: yeah that was what I was about to say :P
[06:43] <sastha> i installed 'irssi' IRC chat client.Using 'sudo aptitude install irssi'.Where the installed application will reside?
[06:43] <bnagy> ok l8s
[06:43] <vf1j> Scunizi: HP Provides drivers, but not for the 1020, which is odd as it is a common printer
[06:44] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: RADEON(0): is on all the logs, so I think the driver is the open source RADEON driver...
[06:44] <extreme_> oops lol, but no pHreaksYcle as it says i'm using 64bit
[06:44] <vf1j> Anyone know how to configure a 1020 on CUPS?
[06:44] <Scunizi> vf1j: try HP1000 or HP1010.. something that is close to 1020.
[06:44] <letalis> sastha: irssi is a cli program
[06:44] <vf1j> Scunizi: Believe me, there is nothing close
[06:44] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ okay, so you are using 64 bit? because there's really no confusion about it haha. you KNOW if you're using 64
[06:45] <letalis> just type irssi at any terminal prompt
[06:45] <vf1j> Scunizi: It is bizarre
[06:45] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: is there a way to list all packages that are installed ?
[06:45] <quentusrex> and grep for any with fglx in the title?
[06:45] <extreme_> yes i'm running 64bit
[06:45] <vf1j> Maybe I need a linux tutor
[06:45] <tritium> quentusrex: dpkg -l
[06:45] <savvas> vf1j: execute in terminal: sudo apt-get install python-qt3; sudo hplip-setup
[06:45] <world_citizen> pHreaksYcle: I'm stuck at this?? http://xs136.xs.to/xs136/09083/screenshot713.png - I can only scroll, can't click Ok or enter, space, anything
[06:45] <n2diy> ok, I've setup a test box, virgin Hardy install, it is sterile. How do I install chrootkit, and rootkit hunter, without exposing the box to the internet?
[06:46] <sastha> letalis: YEs.i can understand.But i cant see all the messages.but in windows it will run as a separate application.Isnt it
[06:46] <vf1j> So you are saying don't go through cups?
[06:46] <extreme_> and umm
[06:46] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen you need to hit left arrow or down arrow until you highlight the OK with red
[06:46] <extreme_> vf1j, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125545.html
[06:46] <rogermudd> world_citizen: Can you tab to "<OK>" and hit enter?
[06:46] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen confused the hell out of me the first time too
[06:46] <world_citizen> ah yes, works! thanks
[06:46] <world_citizen> just had to tab lol
[06:47] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen glad to hear this.
[06:47] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: yes... dpkg-query -l | grep '^i'
[06:47] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen as a reward for my pretty site, tell me what you're using with java
[06:47] <extreme_> ok now, why dont my system see all 4 gigs, and why is xvid play back blue?
[06:47] <savvas> vf1j: I'm saying to set up your printer driver properly first :)
[06:48] <world_citizen> firefox, it's a pill to install java
[06:48] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ 64 if for extreme people, you should know this. perhaps the 64 bit subchannel would be more appropriate?
[06:48] <pHreaksYcle> im sure this exists
[06:48] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: I had the ati driver installed, but not using it. I've removed the driver....
[06:49] <vf1j> Savvas: Okay, thanks you and Extreme--thanks for the link
[06:49] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, what version of MusicTracker are you using?
[06:49] <L3Tum> I think maybe my ethernet card and mouse are conflicting, since neither of them are working. I have tried everything else I can possibly find on google about getting the mouse to work, and since the ethernet car doesn't seem to work either, it must be this. Now if someone could just tell me how to find out if they are trying to use the same i/o address or however it is I see if they are conflicting
[06:49] <vf1j> My goals is to get the printer working end-of-week
[06:49] <extreme_> pHreaksYcle, this was a question asked, no reason to become super dickhead
[06:49] <vf1j> Aim high
[06:49] <tritium> extreme_: I've already warned you about foul language
[06:49] <extreme_> if the question was placed in the wrong channel my fault
[06:50] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ all in good humor my man. super dickhead i am not, and i commend you for using 64 its hard
[06:50] <U-b-u-n-t-u> any idea on how to get Pidgin to fix on one screen without overlap
[06:50] <bullgard4> Why does Gajim produce no sounds any longer? Does '~$ lsof | grep snd' show that sound output is blocked by gconf-help or mixer_app ?: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394173
[06:50] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: no change.....
[06:50] <vf1j> If I get the printer working I will then try to learn MUTT
[06:50] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh 0.4.8
[06:50] <IntuitiveNipple> extreme_: The memory address space from 3GB to 4GB is reserved for PCI I/O Memory mapping, so unless the chipset can remap the RAM that would usually appear there, it is effectively out of bounds.
[06:50] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: don't repeat it!
[06:50] <n2diy> ok, I've setup a test box, virgin Hardy install, it is sterile. How do I install chrootkit, and rootkit hunter, without exposing the box to the internet?
[06:50] <mrkissinger> m,b,mnb
[06:50] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium d h i am not :P
[06:50] <mrkissinger> ,mn,mn
[06:50] <mrkissinger> mn,m.n
[06:50] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, where did you get 0.4.8 from
[06:51] <vf1j> Thanks again Extreme and good night!
[06:51] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh only the best. GetDeb.net
[06:51] <vf1j> I love you all!
[06:51] <pHreaksYcle> cute
[06:51] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, alright thank you
[06:51] <tritium> n2diy: if they're not on the install CD, you either have to connect to the internet to install from the repos, or grab the .deb packages from another machine, and transfer them via USB stick, or the like
[06:51] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: The log-files should be giving you some strong clues as to what is happening. I addition to the log-files I mentioned earlier, you should look at ~/.xsession-errors
[06:52] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh http://www.getdeb.net/download/3187/0
[06:52] <savvas> n2diy: 1) a local apt mirror cache? 2) look for the package and its dependencies from http://packages.ubuntu.com - save them somewhere and transfer the files to the machine without internet?
[06:52] <L3Tum> How can I find out if a network card and and mouse are conflicting?
[06:52] <world_citizen> pHreaksYcle: it all works! thanks so much phreaksycle I've been having troubles with java on firefox for ages on ubuntu
[06:52] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: please be cautious recommending non-ubuntu packages
[06:52] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: ** (Do:7241): CRITICAL **: gnome_desktop_item_get_localestring: assertion `item != NULL' failed
[06:52] <n2diy> tritium: ok, the debs. are known to be sterile?
[06:53] <pHreaksYcle> @world_citizen no problem man, just remember the site, has all sorts of cool stuff haha
[06:53] <tritium> n2diy: if you grab them from the repositories, yes
[06:53] <lstarnes> n2diy: they are in the official repos and are practically guaranteed to be clean
[06:53] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium I am, getdeb is pretty trusted
[06:53] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: That looks to be worth researching
[06:53] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: we don't recommend them here
[06:54] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: what can you find about it?
[06:54] <SasL> Did anybody resolved "Protocol error" in Virtual Box?
[06:54] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: You have Gnome-do installed?
[06:54] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium does this mean i'm not allowed to?
[06:54] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: yes I do
[06:54] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium or you wouldn't recommend that i recommend them
[06:54] <n2diy> tritium: lstarnes, ok, thanks.
[06:54] <tritium> pHreaksYcle: you can, but be prepared to help if they have trouble ;)
[06:54] <pHreaksYcle> @tritium you got it captain crunch. im always ready to help
[06:54] <bnagy> arggghhhh
[06:54] <SasL> pHreaksYcle: excuse.My Samba intallation is under progress.
[06:55] <pHreaksYcle> @SasL sure.
[06:55] <bnagy> savvas: OK, sudo online, now working on apt-get -f install
[06:55] <extreme_> brb smoke
[06:55] <GOD2> here
[06:55] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ tobacco?
[06:55] <savvas> bnagy: great :)
[06:55] <bnagy> libxul-common failing to install
[06:55] <extreme_> maybe
[06:55] <EMPulse> hey guys
[06:55] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ sinner.
[06:55] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: I've uninstalled gnome-do, that wasn't it...
[06:55] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme_ :P
[06:55] <MartianW> My keyboard has a second \ key. I want to use it as a third level chooser. After poking around in the xkb folder I managed to work out it is 94 and <LSGT>. But how do I set it to be a third level chooser?
[06:55] <bnagy> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: not found
[06:55] <EMPulse> Can anyone recommend a video converter that can convert videos for my Palm Centro
[06:56] <pHreaksYcle> @EMPulse Windows haha
[06:56] <GOD2> i need an aircard to work on linux
[06:56] <bnagy> can I DL just that binary from somewhere?
[06:56]  * extreme_ hands the peace pipe to pHreaksYcle
[06:56] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: No, I didn't think it could be that simple. That error you reported is to do with bad plugins though, so you may want to deal with that later
[06:56] <n2diy> tritium: lstarnes, apt-get filename is the same as getting it's .deb right?
[06:56] <EMPulse> pHreaksYcle, Lol, I mean a program on Ubuntu
[06:56] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: :(
[06:56] <L3Tum> can somebody tell me how I can find out if both my mouse and my network card are trying to use the same i/o address, and if so, how to fix it?
[06:56] <pHreaksYcle> @extreme thank you
[06:56] <savvas> bnagy: you have a lot of problems, the netbook remix release of ubuntu is for advanced users, not stable and not recommended - why not use intrepid 8.10 directly?
[06:56] <tritium> n2diy: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[06:56] <quentusrex> tritium: had mentioned that it sounded like others are having a similiar problem...
[06:56] <Milkeh> pHreaksYcle, thank you it's working now, I'll be sure to keep this site bookmarked
[06:57] <pHreaksYcle> @Extreme I have asthma though, so ill just have one of those brownies
[06:57] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh thanks man, that means a lot
[06:57] <bnagy> savvas: tried that, and the system died horribly somehow
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Do you have an account on the Ubuntu bug-tracker at https://bugs.launchpad.net ?
[06:57] <desilou_fernande> my word! where am i?
[06:57] <tritium> quentusrex: yes, but I don't have much to report as of yet
[06:57] <pHreaksYcle> @forgeign name lol
[06:57] <bnagy> plus wifi camera etc hard to get working
[06:57] <n2diy> tritium: no install, I'm going to put the package on a tthumb drive, and install from there, I hope.
[06:57] <quentusrex> tritium: neither do I .... :(
[06:57] <Myrtti> pHreaksYcle, extreme_: lets keep the offtopic somewhere else and keep this channel for support questions :-)
[06:57] <atom^x> bnagy, xubuntu wiith kernel from array.org
[06:58] <pHreaksYcle> @Myrtti I was waiting for that
[06:58] <Myrtti> pHreaksYcle: then you should know better ;-)
[06:58] <Sergeant_Pony> is it possible to installl compiz fusion from a console?
[06:58] <savvas> bnagy: try this: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install and post the output at www.pastebin.com
[06:58] <tritium> n2diy: from a thumb drive, you'll have to use either "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>", or you can double-click it, and it should open gdebi, which will install it
[06:58] <SasL> pHreaksYcle: i dont find any 'shared folders' in System->Administration.I repeat i m using Virtual Box.Windows XP is my Host and Ubuntu is my Guest.Plz help me
[06:58] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: yes, i have an account...
[06:58] <EMPulse> Can anyone recommend a video converter that can convert videos for my Palm Centro?
[06:58] <bnagy> savvas: OK, but the first error is the one I pasted above
[06:58] <bnagy> but gimme a sec
[06:58] <quentusrex> EMPulse: VLC player...
[06:58] <GOD2> no help?
[06:58] <n2diy> tritium: 10-4
[06:58] <desilou_fernande> wow what a busy chat ... i should leave
[06:58] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Can you create a bug-report on Launchpad and attach to it a tar-gzip archive containing some log-files?
[06:59] <extreme_> Myrtti, my fault, i do that some times
[06:59] <savvas> bnagy: I'd like the full output if it's not a problem :)
[06:59] <Myrtti> hello desilou_fernande
[06:59] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: if you give me the command that will tar-gzip all the required files, I'll upload it...
[06:59] <bnagy> savvas: ugh, actually...lemme check if I have lynx
[06:59] <pHreaksYcle> @quentusrex i see people recommend VLC for converting ETC but i never learned how to do anything like that. VLC just seems like a simple player to me
[06:59] <Myrtti> desilou_fernande: do you need help with Ubuntu?
[06:59] <bnagy> firefox currently borked
[06:59] <quentusrex> pHreaksYcle: dig deeper
[06:59] <desilou_fernande> no its working fine
[06:59] <n2diy> desilou_fernande: busy, a couple of hours ago there were over 1500 users here!
[07:00] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: tar -czf gdm-logs.tar.gz /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/kern.log /var/log/gdm/:0.log ~/.xsession-errors
[07:00] <EMPulse> quentusrex, Can VLC shrink the screen? i.e. change the resolution to make it smaller?
[07:00] <savvas> bnagy: ok ignore that, give me a second to think then :)
[07:00] <bnagy> savvas: mind if I just /msg you?
[07:00] <quentusrex> EMPulse: yes, ask on the vlc channel...
[07:00] <EMPulse> quentusrex, thanks
[07:00] <quentusrex> EMPulse:  #videolan I think
[07:00] <savvas> bnagy: no, send it!
[07:00] <spree> I have an issue. I have an OOOOOLD Automatix installation. I installed Swiftweasel with it. I want to remove swiftweasel and install the new version properly. I am running Intrepid. I also need to uninstall Automatix and have no clue how to go about doing it
[07:00] <savvas> bnagy: i mean privately :)
[07:01] <Myrtti> desilou_fernande: excellent then :-)
[07:01] <bullgard4> Why does Gajim produce no sounds any longer? Does '~$ lsof | grep snd' show that sound output is blocked by gconf-help or mixer_app ?: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394173
[07:01] <spree> remember Automatix? from 7.10? I still have it and i want rid of it
[07:01] <Tom47> is vbox running xp vm a cpu hog known to anyone else?
[07:01] <Milkeh> why does my java and banshee music player not want to play sounds at the same time?
[07:01] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know if there is a way to activate restricted drivers thru a console?
[07:01] <Luvis> crakerjacks yo
[07:01] <pHreaksYcle> @Milkeh uh oh. sounds like one of those ubuntu sound issues
[07:01] <spree> Tom47, all the windows above 2000 will do that
[07:01] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: because one of them is locking your soundcard for some reason
[07:02] <tritium> spree: yes, we *never* supported automatix
[07:02] <spree> Tom47, XP is better than Vista
[07:02] <spree> Tom47, resource wise anyway
[07:02] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, they lock each other out, any idea how to fix?
[07:02] <Tom47> spree oh .... did not notice it until todays 2.1.4 update
[07:02] <spree> tripps, well what do you want me to do
[07:02] <SunnyDP> @extreme-sudoer :D
[07:02] <spree> tritium, what do you want me to do
[07:02] <Flannel> spree: There's no way to remove Automatix, you have to reinstall.
[07:02] <tritium> spree: anything you like
[07:02] <spree> well that's just super
[07:03] <tritium> spree: we've always strongly advised against it
[07:03] <tritium> !automatix | spree
[07:03] <Flannel> spree: that's just one of the many reasons we recommend against it.
[07:03] <spree> Tristam, yeah it would have been nice to know that before i did it, i'd never been here before
[07:03] <quentusrex> IntuitiveNipple: what should it be filed under?
[07:03] <Luvis> i'm using automatix... can't get aircard to work
[07:03] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know if there is a way to activate restricted drivers thru a console?
[07:03] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Hmmm... gdm ?
[07:03] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: i'm not familuar with banshee music player, is it java that is locking your soundcard or is it banshee locking your sound card, are you sure its not firefox locking your sound card?
[07:04] <spree> Tristam, you doing the !automatix was completely pointless, i already know, okay?
[07:04] <Flannel> spree: The Ubuntu community has been crusading against Automatix for a long time now (well, while it was still active).  But, we can't raise awareness everywhere, obviously.
[07:04] <pHreaksYcle> @spree what kind of spree?
[07:04] <pHreaksYcle> @spree candy or killing?
[07:04] <Flannel> pHreaksYcle: Please stay on topic
[07:04] <spree> Flannel, show me where I am advocating the use of automatix
[07:04] <Luvis> so why the ubuntu team so against it?
[07:05] <spree> pHreaksYcle, why not both?
[07:05] <Flannel> spree: I never said you were.  I just said we've tried to raise awareness as much as we could.
[07:05] <pHreaksYcle> @spree because that's too funny for me to handle.
[07:05] <joey_> any idea why i would get horizontal refresh lines when watching movies?
[07:05] <joey_> but i get nothing when playing games or anything else
[07:06] <Flannel> Luvis: Because it's a bad piece of software.  The actual issues are outlined in that blog article (well, some of them).  If you'd like to discuss it further, we can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:06] <crackerjackz> Luvis: why is the ubuntu team so against what?
[07:06] <tritium> Luvis: read above
[07:06] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, I'm sure, it's just that banshee (and every other music player) is kind of.. clashing with java. If I run a java game.. the song sits at 0:00 and java sounds play fine
[07:06] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, and if I play a song and open a java game.. no sounds come out of the java game
[07:06] <spree> Flannel, you're like the guy who tells a guy who just got hit by a truck that he should avoid being hit by trucks
[07:06] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: you are using firefox right?
[07:06] <pHreaksYcle> @spree LMAO
[07:06] <Luvis> Crackerjackz ,automatix
[07:06] <tritium> spree: the point was to provide you the background on the reasons why
[07:07] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, yes
[07:07] <SasL> pHreaksYcle: i dont find any 'shared folders' in System->Administration.I repeat i m using Virtual Box.Windows XP is my Host and Ubuntu is my Guest.Plz help me
[07:07] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: go to youtube.com and see if flash does the same thing to you
[07:07] <spree> tritium, i was looking forward to finding out something i don't already know. So far, i'm disappointed.
[07:07] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: i think its firefox locking your soundcard not java
[07:08] <spree> tritium, i do know this whole "impossible to remove it" thing has got to be bunk and a cop-out
[07:08] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: you only have onboard sound right?
[07:08] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, Nope I'm positive, it's java. Just double checked, doesn't do it with firefox. and youtube videos are working fine
[07:08] <Luvis> i see no blog article
[07:08] <tritium> spree: if it were official ubuntu software in the repositories, you might have reason to complain to us
[07:08] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, Not quite sure, I know I have a realtek HD soundcard
[07:09] <Flannel> spree: If you want to manually delete lots of files, go right ahead.  There's no easy way for us to explain to you how to restore your system to a state before it was installed.
[07:09] <spree> tritium, Show me where I complained
[07:09] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: you only have one soundcard right? and the one you do have is intergrated with the motherboard right/
[07:09] <tritium> spree: it's unfortunate you chose to install unofficial software, and now want to blame us, as if it was in some way something we did
[07:10] <tritium> Luvis: /msg ubottu automatix, and you'll see the blog post
[07:10] <tritium> spree: your previous two comments
[07:11] <spree> tritium, so far you've had the supposition that I am both some kind of Automatix adovcate that needs talking out of using it after the damage is done, and that I am here to whine about it. I came here for some sort of recommendation beyond what somebody at Dell tech support in India would say with Windows "Okay, we'll just reinstall your entire operating system that will fix it"
[07:11] <n2diy> what is the apt-get syntax to DL filename to my USB drive, with is listed as /dev/sdb1?
[07:11] <L3Tum> how can I find out which i/o address my mouse and network card are using?
[07:11] <n2diy> with/ which
[07:11] <tritium> spree: I've had no such supposition, there's just nothing we can recommend for you
[07:11] <Luvis> thanks tritium
[07:11] <spree> That is a sufficient and respectable response.
[07:12] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, I would say it, I used to run both java and windows media player on windows
[07:12] <Luvis> i might have to transfer to opensuse
[07:12] <Flannel> spree: Ok, fine:  Get a vanilla install of Ubuntu, get a list of files on it (ls -lR /) install Automatix (the same version), install all of the software you installed with automatix.  Get another file listing.  Delete the differences.
[07:12] <spree> Flannel thank you, that's a good idea
[07:13] <Flannel> spree: Other than that, we have no idea, since we don't deal with it.  You wouldn't call up Dell and ask them how to remove some random third party program.
[07:13] <crackerjackz> Milkeh: you only have one soundcard right?
[07:13] <bullgard4> Why does Gajim produce no sounds any longer? Does '~$ lsof | grep snd' show that sound output is blocked by gconf-help or mixer_app ?: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394173
[07:13] <spree> Flannel, actually yeah i would because if i were into the whole Dell thing i would pimp that warranty support out as much as possible and they would do it. :)
[07:14] <tritium> spree: nonsense
[07:14] <n2diy> what is the apt-get syntax to DL filename to my USB drive, which is listed as /dev/sdb1?
[07:14] <pHreaksYcle> @bullgard4 do you mean Gaim?
[07:14] <quentusrex23> IntuitiveNipple: tritium Alright. I installed kubuntu-desktop... and now I'm in the desktop...
[07:14] <Milkeh> crackerjackz, I would say so, I haven't added any extra hardware.
[07:14] <bullgard4> pHreaksYcle: No.
[07:14] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Does gdm still fail?
[07:14] <spree> tritium, actually you'd be amazed at what you can accomplish over the phone
[07:15] <Flannel> spree: It's extremely likely that it won't actually work.  Because the automatix repositories and such have been taken offline, and I'm sure URLs of other things have changed as well.  But sure, if you're willing to actually do that, byall means, knock yourself out.  It'll be faster, and cleaner (and you'll have fewer problems) to just reinstall (since automatix not only added files, but *modified* files)
[07:15] <quentusrex23> IntuitiveNipple: yes, it still fails...
[07:15] <Luvis> brb
[07:15] <Flannel> !away > Luvis
[07:15] <tritium> spree: it's not reasonable to demand support for random, third-party, unofficial software
[07:15] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: narrowing things down then
[07:15] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Have you posted those logs?
[07:15] <spree> tritium, show me where i said i'm responsible.
[07:15] <spree> or reasonable
[07:16] <n2diy> Flannel: is Automatix supported now?
[07:16] <Flannel> n2diy: Never.
[07:16] <quentusrex23> IntuitiveNipple: yup. they're posted...
[07:16] <tritium> spree: drop it.
[07:16] <Luvis> does anyone know of anyway to get a novatel ovation broadband airmodem working on linux?
[07:16] <fool_> how should i reopen a bug ?
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Have you tried doing a reinstall of gdm? (sudo apt-get --reinstall gdm)
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: Give me the bug URL
[07:17] <crackerjackz> i tried helping Luvis earlier but google only yielded two search results
[07:17] <spree> i'm irritated at the lack of enthusiasm
[07:17] <n2diy> Flannel: ok, I was off line for four monthes, so I have been suprized to see it discussed here, recently.
[07:17] <fool_> bug ?
[07:17] <L3Tum> spree,  You can't demand support for a free product anyway...if you don't like it you don't have to use it
[07:17] <Flannel> n2diy: Its been dead for a while.  I have no idea what spurred this horrible ressurection.
[07:17] <spree> i bet i can fix it i fixed everything else that wasn't working with the past 4 upgrades
[07:17] <tritium> spree: spare us, and stay on topic, please
[07:17] <fool_> !bug
[07:17] <n2diy> Flannel: :)
[07:17] <spree> tritium, show me where i'm not on topic
[07:18] <elpargo> hi, how can I turn off X and make it not reload gdm?
[07:18] <elpargo> ^^^ temporally
[07:18] <lvty> elpargo: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:18] <fool_> if a bug is mark "fixed released" how can i reopen ?
[07:18] <tritium> elpargo: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[07:18] <crackerjackz> tritium: do you know how to get a novatel ovation mc727 usb air modem working with ubuntu?
[07:18] <L3Tum> Is there any way to find out if my mouse and network card are conflicting? And how can I fix this if they are?
[07:18] <tritium> crackerjackz: no, sorry
[07:19] <crackerjackz> tritium: have you ever played around with cellular modems before?
[07:19] <tritium> crackerjackz: nope
[07:19] <elpargo> right thanks lvty, totally forgot about it :)
[07:19] <Luvis> damn box says it supports linux..
[07:19] <crackerjackz> tritium: you know any one that might know?
[07:19] <n2diy> what is the apt-get syntax to DL filename to my USB drive, which is listed as /dev/sdb1?
[07:19] <elpargo> tritium: intersting I didn't knew about that one.
[07:19] <Daft_Punk> I recently upgraded my system from hardy to intrepid, now my wireless cuts out frequently and reconnects, I am using WPA/WPA2 Personal encryption, but if I change it to WEP 128 bit encryption, it seems to be working more stable, is there a workaround or known issue with WPA/WPA2 and intrepid?
[07:19] <Flannel> spree: Again, please stay on topic.  That topic is: Ubuntu support, not badgering people doing the support.
[07:20] <crackerjackz> its actually for my friend luvis i tried helping him earlier but google only yielded two search results so i suggested that we come in here
[07:21] <Daft_Punk> is it quiet or did i get disconnected
[07:21] <Daft_Punk> lol
[07:21] <n2diy> ha92910
[07:21] <quentusrex23> IntuitiveNipple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330858
[07:21] <crackerjackz> you are still alive Daft_Punk
[07:21] <Daft_Punk> crackerjackz, oooo nice pun
[07:22] <crackerjackz> :]
[07:24] <bullgard4> Why does Gajim produce no sounds any longer? Does '~$ lsof | grep snd' show that sound output is blocked by gconf-help or mixer_app ?: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394173
[07:25] <Daft_Punk> bullgard4, what do you mean, any longer? since when?
[07:25] <bullgard4> Daft_Punk: Since 3 hours.
[07:25] <Luvis> all your base belong to us?
[07:25] <baKka> huuuyyyyy
[07:25] <Flannel> Luvis: Please stay on topic.
[07:26] <Luvis> sorry. i get distracted
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: What's this command report: ls -l /dev/random && ls -l /dev/urandom
[07:26] <Daft_Punk> !offtopic | Luvis
[07:28] <Daft_Punk> it seems fairly dead in here right now, ill come back later to ask my support question, if someone reads it and can help please PM me :)
[07:28] <vigo> Actually, what Luvis stated, was sorta on my topic. PyTube or what to download and save for replay YouTube stuff?
[07:30] <tritium> vigo: "apt-cache search youtube" should give you a few ideas
[07:30] <vigo> Thank you
[07:30] <delly> how to install lamp-server
[07:31] <savvas> !lamp | delly
[07:31] <vigo> tritium: in Terminal?
[07:31] <lvty> Daft_Punk: I'd downgrade
[07:31] <Luvis> brb guz
[07:31] <Flannel> delly: The easiest way is to use tasksel (which is explained from that wiki page)
[07:31] <delly> ok dear i ;ll try
[07:31] <Daft_Punk> lvty, I do not know if that is your attempt at humor, or just plain bad advice, but I do not appreciate it. Thanks.
[07:32] <spree> Daft_Punk, you'll get a lot of that around here, caveat emptor
[07:33] <lvty> Well, I had issues with audio and wireless cards in Intrepid, it's not user error when the previous version worked (i.e. a regression)
[07:34] <tritium> vigo: yes
[07:34] <Daft_Punk> lvty, yeah but this is support for intrepid not hardy, also, i had issues with audio too but it turns out its just a package that needed to be upgraded that wasn't...
[07:34] <tritium> spree: drop the attitude
[07:34] <spree> tritium, I don't know what you mean. Please stay on topic.
[07:34] <Flannel> spree: Actually, being unhelpful is against the channel rules, so no, you won't.
[07:35] <vigo> tritium: Sweet! Thank you
[07:35] <tritium> vigo: no problem :)
[07:35] <Daft_Punk> :) justice
[07:35] <nanotube> any webcam gurus on here?
[07:35] <SasL> what is a .wine?
[07:35] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: I've posted a response to your bug report
[07:36] <Daft_Punk> tritium, i just noticed a PM spree had sent me just now, should I share it with you in private or just ignore it?
[07:36] <lvty> nanotube: usb?
[07:36] <tritium> Daft_Punk: you may PM me
[07:36] <nanotube> lvty: yes
[07:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Daft_Punk: This is support for Hardy and Intrepid. Hardy is a Long Term Support release.
[07:37] <Daft_Punk> IntuitiveNipple, i was under the impression that since it was released that this was only intrepid support and hardy would have it's own channel, sorry.
[07:37] <lvty> ubuntu+1 is jaunty
[07:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Daft_Punk: It gets confusing :)
[07:38] <tritium> Daft_Punk: thanks, buddy
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Maybe we need an #ubuntu-1 :p
[07:38] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: #ubuntu supports all supported (and sometimes EOL stuff, particularly upgrading to non-EOL) Ubuntu versions.
[07:38] <lvty> nanotube: it's probably not in the kernel, someone else correct me if I'm wrong: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[07:39] <Daft_Punk> Flannel, ok i understand now thanks
[07:41] <nanotube> lvty: well, the problem is more complex (hence request for gurus) :) webcam works just fine in cheese, but ekiga fails to see it.
[07:42] <SasL> what are the fundamental topics to be learnt by a beginner to Ubuntu?
[07:42] <n2diy> I need to apt-get a package, and send it to /dev/sdb1, what is the syntax to do that?
[07:42] <lvty> nanotube: do you have libpt*plugins-v4l ?