[06:04] <ZeloZelos> i actually did this b4 but i used a microsd, and adapter, but you cant boot from that config
[06:04] <Jordan_U> WaffleGod: Probably not.
[06:04] <Saber-> Burn another one.
[06:04] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: yeah it's slower on a micro sd, depends on what class.
[06:04] <ZeloZelos> it was old
[06:05] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: and ext4 seems to work fine, no need to use ext2 -
[06:05] <Jordan_U> ZeloZelos: You can boot from an SD card, as long as the firmware supports booting from USB (or from its internal card reader).
[06:05] <Saber-> There's a chance the error is some part of the cd you won't use in your install, but unless that's the last cd for a hundred miles, it's better to juts burn a new one
[06:05] <WaffleGod> I actually dont have another cd
[06:05] <WaffleGod> and I am new to ubuntu
[06:05] <WaffleGod> So i figured I would come here and ask
[06:05] <Jordan_U> WaffleGod: Do you have a flash drive?
[06:06] <WaffleGod> Jordan_U Not where I am right now
[06:06] <gome> This may be the wrong spot to ask but the support from the website directed me here, can anyone answer a quick question on installing ubuntu?
[06:06] <ZeloZelos> Jordan_U it wouldnt boot from the adapter with the microsd in it, probably works with an sd card though
[06:06] <gome> After booting from a usb drive, I hit install, and i'm treated to a seemingly unending screen of ................ I can hit esc to cancel and enter to start again. Is this the installation process or does there seem to be a problem?
[06:06] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: do you have a usb flash disk (key drive)?
[06:06] <Pikkachu> Jordan_U: oh I got oneiric installed lalala lalala
[06:07] <Jordan_U> gome: That is definitely *not* the installation process :)
[06:07] <WaffleGod> sacarlson not where I am now
[06:07] <Jordan_U> gome: How did you create the USB drive?
[06:07] <Bsims> I got my new hw picked out 2nd gen core i5-2500, intel BOXDH67BLB3, 8 gig of ddr3, and a 1tb Caviar Black... any issues anyone know about graphics or stabilty wise?
[06:07] <ZeloZelos> gome did you use unetbootin or universal to install the installer/live cd ... and did you choose one of the recommended dist from the pulldowns or your own, if its your own it prob wont work
[06:07] <Pikkachu> gome: screenshots?
[06:07] <WaffleGod> How do I know what part of the cd is the error?
[06:07] <gome> hah. I figured as much. I used the unetbootin
[06:07] <Saber-> I like that my problem is too weird for anyone to have any idea how to help, lol
[06:07] <gome> sorry the universal
[06:07] <Bsims> Saber-: heh whats the issue?
[06:08] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: I assume from the error that the drive or the media is bad
[06:08] <ZeloZelos> gome downloaded a differant one instead of the ones listed?
[06:08] <Saber-> Why can't my mediatomb or mythtv user access a symlink'd directory in their /home... unless I am currently logged into the server
[06:08] <Pikkachu> Saber-: what problem
[06:08] <gome> and i downloaded 11.10 from ubuntu website
[06:08] <Blue1> Saber-: permissions?
[06:08] <Bsims> Saber-: did you check the permissions for the destination of that symlink?
[06:08] <WaffleGod> sacarlson I think its my disk drive
[06:08] <Pikkachu> Saber-: oh sorry no idea
[06:08] <ZeloZelos> gome the installer for dvd's and such wont run right but the installer program will boot on some of them
[06:08] <gome> and don't have screenshots atm, working on a different comp
[06:08] <WaffleGod> I am not 100% sure however
[06:08] <Saber-> If I ssh in, it works fine.  If I logout, it disappears from the mediatomb library
[06:08] <sacarlson> WaffleGod:  so without eather a cd media or flash drive do you have another linux system that is running within access?
[06:09] <X-tonic> Is ubuntu considering a python3 move anytime soon? say by around 12.10?
[06:09] <WaffleGod> sacarlson nope
[06:09] <Bsims> Saber-: assuming your permissions are correct ya got a wierd one
[06:09] <WaffleGod> Should I just try reburning the disk, but at a slower speed
[06:09] <Saber-> lol ya...
[06:09] <Pikkachu> gome: I successfully installed the downloaded iso onto my usb stick today using unetbootin
[06:09] <gome> i followed ubuntu's instructions i thought on booting from a usb drive to install, what should i try instead?
[06:09] <Bsims> WaffleGod: Yup and check the md5sum for it
[06:09] <ejv> you don't need to wait for ubuntu, to get in on python3+
[06:10] <WaffleGod> Bsims checked the md5
[06:10] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: I have installed ubuntu from hd to hd,  ok that almost covers it other than boot pxe
[06:10] <WaffleGod> its good
[06:10] <Pikkachu> X-tonic: applications need to be compatible with python 3 for it starting becoming default
[06:10] <Saber-> I guess I can just move the media into mediatomb's directory.
[06:10] <ZeloZelos> Blue1 is it necessary to make the windows partition on it?
[06:10] <Bsims> Yeah try it on a lower speed, but it should work
[06:10] <gome> It starts with Loading /casper/vmlinuz.... then continues with the ......s btw
[06:10] <X-tonic> ejv, yeah, i know i could just download and use py3, but py3 is been around for more than a year now
[06:10] <WaffleGod> ok, afk
[06:10] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: I have installed systems over ethernet with pxe but never used windows as a host but it can be done
[06:10] <Blue1> ZeloZelos: no, but some people want that, that is how to do it though
[06:11] <X-tonic> and now i believe most of the apps work with py3
[06:11] <ZeloZelos> Blue1, ah ok
[06:11]  * Bsims is off to bed
[06:11] <WaffleGod> sacarlson I am not that good with this stuff, yet, and dont really have another computer I can use
[06:11] <Pikkachu> X-tonic: so you'd expect everybody or like 90% to have migrated from py2? that didn't happen afaik
[06:11] <gome> i'm wondering if maybe i missed some sort of setup process before where i'm at
[06:11] <WaffleGod> well, imma do it at 1x write speed
[06:11] <WaffleGod> cant go wrong there
[06:11] <Pikkachu> X-tonic: yeah your belief is wrong afaik
[06:11] <Jordan_U> gome: It's probably a bug of some sort, rather than an error on your part.
[06:12] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: then I would wait and buy a usb flash drive for like $4 and do it later
[06:12] <terminhell> gome: have you tried dd?
[06:12] <Pikkachu> gome: can't you just do it again, unetbootin?
[06:12] <gome> thanks, yeah I can try that. It took an hour and a half for some reason to burn the iso though
[06:12] <WaffleGod> sacarlson I am going to try burning it at a really low speed and see if it works
[06:12] <gome> and what's dd?
[06:13] <sacarlson> WaffleGod: yes always use the slowest speeds posible
[06:13] <terminhell> ill take that as a no. nvm, not sure how easily it would be to use to burn a cd anyways
[06:13] <WaffleGod> was using 12x before, gunna try on like 2x
[06:13] <Pikkachu> gome: it took me no more than 5 minutes to extract the iso onto the usb stick, yours seems a bit slow no?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> gome: Can you try booying the USB on another machine?
[06:13] <BoomerBile> is mod_rewrite enabled by default in ubuntu with apache2 freshly installed?
[06:13] <rhin0> usb-creator-gtk I always use
[06:13] <rhin0> it can take a while
[06:14] <terminhell> usb 1.1 drive????
[06:14] <Pikkachu> BoomerBile: I don't believe it is
[06:14] <ZeloZelos> ok, off 2 reboot n install to usb
[06:14] <gome> it was extremely slow, i'm not sure why it took so long. thought it was strange too. This system I am on should be more than capable unless the usb drive i'm usually is just extremely terrible
[06:14] <BoomerBile> Pikkachu, what do i need to install to get it working?
[06:14] <X-tonic> hm.. possibly.. but on gentoo for instance, about half a year back too, i could get nowhere with py3. Now however, each and every package I have installed, has been installed with py 3.2 and all of it working fine.
[06:14] <rhin0> usb is slow
[06:14] <rhin0> its a lot of data
[06:14] <gome> i can try dual booting on this system
[06:14] <ZeloZelos> thank s for the help guys and keep gettin da linux on !
[06:14] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: I don't think so but not sure
[06:14] <Pikkachu> BoomerBile: no idea
[06:14] <rhin0> i mean flash is slow to write to
[06:14] <Pikkachu> BoomerBile: I'd search for some package
[06:15] <terminhell> with unetbootin you may have to set the 'boot' flag in gparted or something else
[06:15] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: as I have mod_rewite active on mine but I think I changed it or a package I installed did
[06:15] <terminhell> and in some bios's you have to manually select the usb drive from the bios dev boot options
[06:16] <X-tonic> All I am saying is that at sometime the leap has to be made, and jumping to py3 as default will only accelerate the py3 migration of obsolete packages
[06:16] <Pikkachu> rhin0: I've downoaded oneiric iso today abd burnt it onto my sub stick with unetbootin, it took me just a few minutes... it was just about extracting not burning
[06:16] <terminhell> and sometimes just keep trying to boot from it a few times. Unetbootin is buggy at times
[06:16] <gome> gotcha yeah i'll try it again
[06:16] <Pikkachu> gome: I think it shouldn't be that slow even in USB 1.x
[06:16] <gome> i'm trying to see if i can boot from the system i'm chatting on
[06:16] <Pikkachu> gome: it's not a burning process, it just extracts the iso onto your usb drive
[06:17] <terminhell> well, its a bit more than that
[06:17] <gome> oh gotcha
[06:17] <rhin0> anything <= 5 minutes isn't an issue - point is whether it succeeds in the burn
[06:17] <gast2root> howto hide fast user switching in main bar?
[06:17] <c31r2g> live disk ubuntu 11.04 with unetbootin doesnt work atleast for me,use pendrivelinux soft instead
[06:17] <BoomerBile> thanks sacarlson
[06:17] <terminhell> with usb, best bet is dd. period.
[06:17]  * rhin0 never got ubuntu 10.10 to install once
[06:18] <rhin0> gave up on it
[06:18] <gome> would running ubuntu from this computer, installing inside windows from this usb drive i created from universal usb installer serve as the testing i need to determine the problem?
[06:18] <rhin0> skipped it (won't install)
[06:18] <zykotick9> terminhell: almost as good as cat ;)
[06:18] <gome> or should i try something other than universal usb installer?
[06:18] <BoomerBile> sacarlson, i guess it's a2enmod rewrite, then edit the conf files to allowoverride...
[06:18] <terminhell> dd...
[06:19] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: sounds about right
[06:19] <BoomerBile> sacarlson, thanks
[06:19] <sacarlson> BoomerBile: can't hurt to enable it two times even if it's already active
[06:20] <BoomerBile> sacarlson, yeah... gentoo guy here, don't use ubuntu much but i chose that for my server i'm renting... taking some getting used to
[06:22] <grkblood> how do i set deluge as my default torrent app in google chrome?
[06:22] <terminhell> its a desktop global
[06:22] <terminhell> preferred applications
[06:22] <gome> i guess i'll try to extract it again
[06:23] <superdave321> having problem with my bluetooth dongle with usb id 0a12:0001. any help would be awesome.
[06:23] <terminhell> gome what OS are you using to make the usb image?
[06:23] <grkblood> tereserm23, i dont see torrent as an option for default applications
[06:24] <gome> xp sp3
[06:24] <terminhell> first, make sure the usb is fat32 formated.
[06:24] <gome> got that
[06:25] <rattatoue> anyone got xbmc in ubuntu? I installed it and when I go to start it, it complains about missing OPENGL or something, but I am running on the latest Nvidia driver.
[06:25] <terminhell> download the OS iso manually. then with unetbootin select the .iso image option to manually search for the file.
[06:25] <gome> done that
[06:26] <rattatoue> gome, by any chance is the USB not booting?
[06:26] <gome> still don't know why the installer takes so long to extract onto the usb
[06:26] <terminhell> because
[06:26] <gome> it is booting to usb, i get the GUI for ubuntu at boot, so it is right?
[06:26] <rattatoue> gome, yes
[06:26] <terminhell> it has to unzip a huge amount of data
[06:26] <superdave321> rattatoue: Someone here was just saying that the newest nvidia driver actually breaks opengl...
[06:27] <rattatoue> superdave321, *facepalms*
[06:27] <gome> I apologize for being painfully new to linux. I've only used windows and I've read up on ubuntu and trying to install it on the laptop to see what i think
[06:27] <gome> the extraction is taking forever again
[06:27] <rattatoue> superdave321, okay ty
[06:27] <superdave321> rattatoue: np
[06:27] <sacarlson> gome: is it a very old laptop?
[06:28] <rattatoue> gome, maybe your computer is slow
[06:28] <gome> the laptop is pretty old, my computer should be fine
[06:28] <rhin0> I always use usb-creator-gtk (sudo usb-creator-gtk) gome - blank the usb then select the image iso, write - is always straightforward - so what if it takes a few minutes - 100% reliable
[06:28] <gome> unless i'm missing something
[06:28] <sacarlson> gome: try another usb plug if available
[06:29] <rhin0> otherwise write to a dvd - just write the iso (right click on the file in the file manager (nautilus)) and write after setting properties so it writes at the lowest speed
[06:29] <gome> 3 ghz athlon 64 x2, 6000+, 3 gbs ram
[06:29] <gome> i'll try another plug, good idea
[06:29] <rhin0> possibly his usb key is not blanked still has the windows filing system on it
[06:29] <plouffe> when I type "arp" it shows me about 50 IP addresses, all on the same interface, but only two entries with associated MAC addresses. Anyone know what all those entries doing there?
[06:29] <rhin0> way to blank them in windows
[06:29] <sacarlson> gome: I have a system that has two usb buses one is the older 1.X and one it 2.X and one boots much faster than the other
[06:29] <gome> and i may try usb-creator-gtk instead, thanks
[06:29] <gome> alright thanks
[06:30] <rhin0> just play around with it until you manage to blank the usb - sometimes you get locks with the usb filing system vs ubuntu
[06:30] <rhin0> unplug etc or even reboot
[06:30] <rhin0> always works eventually
[06:30] <rhin0> just usb complication
[06:31] <gome> gotcha yeah i've formatted it a couple times just to check
[06:31] <roshan> quit
[06:32] <terminhell> plouffe: it could be other devices in your area.
[06:33] <sacarlson> plouffe: I'm guessing wifi and your on a fringe of it and each reconect it provided another address
[06:34]  * rhin0 musta re-formatted written iso to usb key hundred times
[06:34] <sacarlson> plouffe: or it could be others on the wifi fringe
[06:34] <rhin0> always reliable with usb-creator-gtk - generally on 32  bit ubuntu 10.04 cheap laptop
[06:34] <plouffe> sacarlson, these entries are all for eth1
[06:34] <gome> looking for usb-creator-gtk for windows xp
[06:34] <rhin0> its not a windows package
[06:35] <rhin0> its a linux package
[06:35]  * rhin0 sighs
[06:35] <rhin0> you need a windows iso usb writer
[06:35] <terminhell> just other wifi devices....smartphones, laptops that arent authenticated to your particular AP. Your wifi card can detect these devices, but normally wont display or interact with them
[06:35] <sacarlson> plouffe: eth1 is wired?   but it also has a wifi access point on it?
[06:35] <rhin0> maybe there is a copy of the package for xp - don't know I don't run windows
[06:35] <Ludlow> I launched startx and then it killed itself :(
[06:35] <plouffe> sacarlson, but shouldn't these entries have been deleted, and why are there no MAC addresses associated
[06:35] <rhin0> once you're across you're across
[06:35] <terminhell> *aside from aircrack
[06:35] <gome> ah yeah i thought that's what you were telling me it was, sorry, yeah I need a windows iso usb writer
[06:35] <sacarlson> plouffe: no they will delete after a time out
[06:35] <terminhell> Ludlow: dont use emo DM's
[06:35] <plouffe> sacarlson, wifi adapter is wlan0
[06:35] <rhin0> can't even remember the name
[06:36] <Ludlow> terminhell: what is EMO?
[06:36] <rhin0> sometimes it's simpler just to cut a cd or dvd -- usb can be more problematic
[06:36] <rhin0> because it has to mount it to write to it
[06:36] <sacarlson> plouffe: well I take it your location has a wifi on that lan?
[06:36] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/fMmA3
[06:36] <gome> gotcha. yeah don't have any discs handy tonight at least
[06:36] <WaffleGod> Did it at 1x speed
[06:36] <plouffe> sacarlson, yes
[06:36] <WaffleGod> debating wether I should just use it
[06:36] <rhin0> and there can be filing system issues - or residual stuff you can't get rid of on the usb drive - google - "how to completely blank a usb"
[06:37] <plouffe> sacarlson, timeout? there is only 2 computers connected now. and during the day it's at most 4
[06:37] <sacarlson> plouffe:  if dhcpd is running on the ubuntu box you can look at the dhcp logs and see what mac was used when they were activ
[06:37] <Ludlow> terminhell: what is emos DM's>
[06:37] <terminhell> usb's do have a finite amount of writes.   EMO is a music genre/subculture.
[06:38] <terminhell> zykotick9: thanks, i didnt want to explain that
[06:38] <Ludlow> do you know what my kde is crashing and the killing itself?
[06:38] <sacarlson> plouffe: I'm not sure where your dhcp is running, if your a normal house it would be running in your adsl router but you can disable that one and run a dhcp on your ubuntu to detect what they are
[06:39] <terminhell> does kde rely on dbus?
[06:39] <WaffleGod> Anyone know how to tell what part of the disk the error is, and if using it will fuck my install
[06:39] <terminhell> WaffleGod: if you have a bad disk, the problem will get worse. buy a new drive
[06:40] <WaffleGod> terminhell laptop
[06:40] <sacarlson> plouffe: anther solution is you could write a small script to record arp -n each X minits over a day or more to capture the mac address at diferent times
[06:40] <WaffleGod> thats not really an option
[06:40] <terminhell> why not?
[06:40] <terminhell> you can change laptop hdd's
[06:40] <WaffleGod> terminhell The error was on a cd, that i was burning to install ubuntu with
[06:40] <WaffleGod> by disk i meant cd
[06:40] <terminhell> oh
[06:41] <plouffe> sacarlson, ok I will look into that. But right now you are saying there are no dhcpd logs on my computer?
[06:41] <terminhell> doesnt it come with a 'scan media for error's option?
[06:41] <sacarlson> plouffe: there is no way for me to know,  as I assume you didn't install dhcpd
[06:41] <styles> Hey guys I'm trying to use gparted and partition my drive so I can have it run Ext4 ... but I installed Ubuntu via the windows app and it stored it on the same installation as the windows installation and it's NTFS ... is it just me or will gparted not allow you to resize a disc while in
[06:42] <styles> use*
[06:42] <terminhell> plouffe: your video card driver may not be installed or not supported
[06:42] <terminhell> plouffe: sorry wrong person
[06:42] <plouffe> ok
[06:42] <terminhell> Ludlow: your vid card driver may not be installed/configured properly
[06:43] <WaffleGod> terminhell i scanned it
[06:43] <terminhell> styles: no
[06:43] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/fMmA3
[06:43] <WaffleGod> theres my error
[06:43] <Ludlow> terminhell:  COuld you it be because its running in a VM?
[06:43] <WaffleGod> can i use this ubuntu install disk
[06:43] <terminhell> Ludlow: probably
[06:43] <styles> no I can't terminhell ? or no it's just me
[06:43] <sacarlson> plouffe: oh another method is you can login to your adsl box and see the log there, each of those boxes are different so I can't help any more with that
[06:43] <terminhell> styles: best way would be to just reinstall with a larger size
[06:43] <Ludlow> terminhell: do you know the command for xconfig?
[06:43] <plouffe> sacarlson, yes I was just trying that
[06:44] <terminhell> Ludlow: X --configure
[06:44] <Ludlow> thanks
[06:44] <sunil_> g
[06:44] <WaffleGod> http://imgur.com/fMmA3
[06:44] <plouffe> sacarlson, thanks for your help, I will try what you said
[06:44] <WaffleGod> can i use this ubuntu install disk
[06:46] <terminhell> WaffleGod: have you tried other disc? that one could just be scrached or faulty
[06:47] <WaffleGod> terminhell I dont think I have another CD-RW anywhere
[06:47] <WaffleGod> just a ton of CD-R's
[06:47] <terminhell> WaffleGod: use them instead?
[06:48] <terminhell> also, where did you get the iso?
[06:48] <macele> Anybody else have an obnoxious bright yellow screen when they're rebooting after installing the proprietary amd drivers?
[06:49] <terminhell> i wrather enjoy its yellowness...how dare you call it obnoxious
[06:49] <terminhell> no
[06:49] <macele> god it's so bad... burns my retinas
[06:50] <macele> everything else seems to work fine, but when I reboot I get that screen for line 15-20 seconds. I have to hide my eyes
[06:50] <WaffleGod> terminhell got the iso from the official site, and the CD-R's all have stuff on them
[06:51] <nbubuntu> hi , anyone know which channel to discuss android apps dev ?
[06:51] <styles> I just stuck a blank disc into my drive (not paying attention it's not a DVD it was  CD). Ubuntu now claims it's in use (it's wrong). To further the annoyance it says the device /dev/sr0 is in use.. when I go to umount it (ie: umount /dev/sr0) the device /dev/sr0 isn't found :-/
[06:52] <terminhell> mount it to /dev/null as root?
[06:53] <terminhell> nbubuntu: nope
[06:53] <pksadiq`> !alis | nbubuntu
[06:53] <macele> nbubuntu: #android-dev maybe?
[06:53] <terminhell> WaffleGod: i can think of some other work arounds that wont be easy, or even practical....
[06:54] <nbubuntu> macele : oh.. thanks
[06:54] <apt-getter> hello world
[06:54] <terminhell> 0,o
[06:54] <terminhell> your first chat?
[06:55] <porsche> pretty much
[06:55] <WaffleGod> terminhell do you think it would work anyway?
[06:55] <bobo37773> apt-getter: hello this is the world
[06:55] <apt-getter> lol
[06:55] <terminhell> it involves norton ghost or the equivalint
[06:55] <apt-getter> does world know of a place to get some help for a re-convert like myself?
[06:55] <WaffleGod> Was in a dif irc channel earlier, they said install wubi, delete my windows partition, then expand my linux into that space
[06:56] <WaffleGod> terminhell would it work^
[06:56] <bobo37773> WaffleGod: ouch. why wubi?
[06:57] <styles> I installed via wubi recently
[06:57] <styles> TERRRRRIBLE idea
[06:57] <terminhell> sure, if you can manage to setup an LVM partition with 2 primaries within that, ghost your iso to one, and figure out how to then boot the iso from that ghosted partition, then run the install to install to the second partition within the LVM
[06:58] <bobo37773> styles: I have never heard anyone say wubi was a good thing. ever
[06:58] <styles> Why even offer it
[06:58] <Guest50291> Hello
[06:58] <WaffleGod> terminhell ya, um no
[06:58] <terminhell> i used it once......once
[06:58] <WaffleGod> I have no clue how to do that
[06:58] <styles> It's like, hey let me give a person that's a murder a gun for FUN :D
[06:58] <styles> WEEE
[06:58] <styles> gparted
[06:59] <WaffleGod> styles if I use gparted can I delete my windows partition and expand my linux partition
[06:59] <styles> What I'm doing -> Grab live cd -> run gparted (if not instaslled apt-get it) -> re-align drive (giving more space to an unpartitioned space).
[06:59] <terminhell> or just buy more dvd's tomorrow :p
[06:59] <styles> God Ubuntu I hate you right now
[06:59] <rhin0> why
[06:59] <apt-getter> aww
[06:59] <rhin0> state your problem
[06:59] <Guest50291> I am unable to edit the /etc/fstab file, I have got 2 ntfs partitions and want to mount them automatically. Can someone tell me how? I can get the UUID from sudo blkid but dont know which lines to apply in /etc/fstab!
[06:59] <styles> it swears a device is in use that ubuntu doesn't even see to umount
[06:59] <styles> FANNNNTASTIC
[07:00] <damo22> styles: you must have a shell open on that dir
[07:00] <styles> :( I wish
[07:00] <WaffleGod> terminhell but then im going for a 4 hour coding session
[07:00] <WaffleGod> with WINDOWS
[07:00]  * WaffleGod twitches
[07:01] <styles> Depends what your coding :D
[07:01] <apt-getter> lol
[07:01] <styles> WinAPI things, it's great :D
[07:01] <styles> (Obvious reasons should be obvious :D)
[07:01] <terminhell> WaffleGod: g/l is all i can say
[07:01] <pksadiq`> styles: try unmounting the CD drive by sudo eject -T
[07:02] <WaffleGod> Ill jsut wait till tomorrow and see if i can scrounge a usb from somewhere or something
[07:02] <apt-getter> anyone have issues with dual monitors and nVidia cards, keeping the dual-screen setup after reboot?
[07:02] <rhin0> ugh - developing on windows
[07:03] <Guest50291> I am unable to edit the /etc/fstab file, I have got 2 ntfs partitions and want to mount them automatically. Can someone tell me how? I can get the UUID from sudo blkid but dont know which lines to apply in /etc/fstab!
[07:03] <rhin0> apt-getter its twinview -- you enable each monitor individually
[07:03] <rhin0> you should save configuration into xorg.conf
[07:03] <apt-getter> I have done that, saved as default and then reboot, but it goes back to single screen, then i have to go back in and set it up again....
[07:03] <rhin0> what version of ubuntu
[07:04] <rhin0> maybe register query on ubuntu forums
[07:04] <Guest50291> 11.04 rhin0
[07:04] <styles> yeah did that pksadiq` worked
[07:04] <styles> thanks
[07:04] <rhin0> I think that has happened sometimes to me
[07:04] <apt-getter> actually, I am running Deb Squeeze now, but still same problem, I figure its the same platform must be a similar issue/fix
[07:04] <rhin0> I use 10.04 absolutely no problems with anythign
[07:04] <apt-getter> I had the same issue with 11.04\
[07:04] <bobo37773> rhin0: 10.04 was the best ubuntu version ever in my opinion.
[07:05] <apt-getter> I agree with ya bobo
[07:05] <rhin0> i'm stuck on it - had problems with every ubuntu since .. and I want to use gnome 2 not 3 - unity I don't like at all
[07:05] <rhin0> 10.04 is probably the last ubuntu I will use
[07:05] <Guest50291> someone help me better?
[07:05] <rhin0> .... ntfsd = windows?
[07:06] <rhin0> you want to mount a windows drive
[07:06] <rhin0> i thought they were auto mounted on a partitioned system
[07:06] <apt-getter> they are
[07:06] <rhin0> why are you playing around with fstab then if they are already mounted
[07:06] <apt-getter> mis-communication...I didn't ask that question
[07:06] <apt-getter> I was just confirming your thought...lol
[07:06] <safa> how to install this, "warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: cups-devel (CUPS devel- Common Unix Printing System development files)"
[07:07] <_josh> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my desktop, the install wizard won't detect my second hard drive though, can anyone help?
[07:07] <bobo37773> safa: Either find a repo for it or compile it from source
[07:08] <_josh> the select drive dialog in "install ubuntu alongside them" doesn't have the other drive as a selection
[07:08] <safa> bobo37773: is it not possible to install with apt-get?
[07:08] <apt-getter> _josh, is the drive visible in the bios?
[07:08] <pksadiq> safa: try installing libcups2-dev
[07:09] <_josh> apt-getter, not sure, but if i try to manually partition, it shows up.  i really wanted to use the auto partitioner though
[07:09] <FredBert> hi
[07:09] <apt-getter> hmmm
[07:09] <bobo37773> safa: if it is in the repos it should have come up. That is why you get that error. You may have to look at your sources to make sure you have the right ones enabled'
[07:09] <wahid_> Hi everybody
[07:09] <FredBert> hey everyone
[07:09] <FredBert> i was told to come here
[07:09] <FredBert> what is this place?
[07:10] <bobo37773> _josh: Sounds like its time to learn how to manually partition
[07:10] <apt-getter> _josh, so, when you're in the partmanager you can or cannot see the hdd?
[07:10] <rhin0> its support for ubuntu - the main channel
[07:10] <bobo37773> FredBert: This is an irc chat room
[07:10] <_josh> apt-getter, in the partition manager, i can see it, just not in the wizard
[07:10] <_josh> i want to resize the partitions on the second drive, but i don't want it to delete existing data
[07:10] <rhin0> FredBert: ask questions - get solutions - people here to help
[07:10] <wahid_> I have a question, How can i connect to socks5 server with user and pass authunticatio?
[07:10] <safa> bobo37773: that is done, but now next error, "warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: libusb (libusb - USB library)
[07:10] <safa> warning: This installer cannot install 'libusb' for your distro/OS and/or version."
[07:10] <apt-getter> you're not confusing the wizard with the lvm are you?
[07:11] <wahid_> Test procychains an some application!
[07:11] <_josh> nono
[07:11] <apt-getter> ok
[07:11] <rhin0> _josh:  resizing - you get to keep your data - if there is enough space on the new partition you specify - it crunches down the amount of free space you have
[07:11] <bobo37773> safa: installer? some kind of script of something?
[07:11] <apt-getter> just checking
[07:11] <wahid_> But that's could not connect!
[07:11] <_josh> okay
[07:11] <apt-getter> I think bobo is right, you might have to do this manually
[07:11] <geirha> safa: The install libusb-dev  (apt-cache search 'usb.*-dev')
[07:11] <safa> bobo37773: yes, I am installing printer, following this link "http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html"
[07:11] <_josh> alright, i'll try it then i guess
[07:11] <_josh> thanks
[07:12] <pksadiq> safa: try installing libusb, and libusb-dev.  Then rerun script
[07:12] <apt-getter> good luck _josh
[07:12] <rhin0> _josh - it squeezes down the amount of free space you have
[07:13] <_josh> hopefully i don't lose anything
[07:13] <_josh> which drive do i install the bootloader onto?
[07:13] <_josh> does it matter?
[07:13] <terminhell> sda
[07:13] <pksadiq> safa: also, if you don't know the exact name of the package try sudo apt-get install libusb<TAB><TAB> to get the list, or what ever package you need
[07:14] <terminhell> or apt-cache search
[07:14] <_josh> it has options for /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, as well as /dev/sda, do I choose /dev/sda?
[07:15] <terminhell> yes
[07:15] <terminhell> just sda
[07:15] <Name141> Hello, to trigger my KVM switch I'm having to use Ctrl + Alt + F1 then using the hotlink keys (scroll lock + scroll lock) then when returning to the linux machine Ctrl + Alt + F7 .  Is there a way to make scroll lock function like it would in the console so I don't have to keep doing that? (as seen here http://askubuntu.com/questions/67769/using-numlock-for-trendnet-kvm-switch-no-longer-works
[07:15] <safa> bobo37773: pksadiq i tried now cups-image <with TAB>, but no success.. now asking for "warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: cups-image (CUPS image - CUPS image development files)
[07:15] <safa> warning: This installer cannot install 'cups-image' for your distro/OS and/or version.
[07:15] <safa> "
[07:15] <Name141> )
[07:16] <demogorgon_> a
[07:16] <pksadiq> safa: try libcupsimage<TAB><TAB>  ;)
[07:16] <safa> pksadiq: bhai. I did too.
[07:16] <safa> did that too*
[07:17] <pksadiq> safa: the exact name is libcupsimage2-dev  install that, you have to press TAB twice
[07:17] <safa> pksadiq: yes. installing  libcupsimage2-dev
[07:17] <wahid_> Who can help me?
[07:18] <rhin0> ask away wahid_ -- maybe somebody can - just ask
[07:18] <rhin0> your question
[07:18] <apt-getter> is there a way to edit the xorg.conf file from the cli? nano or something?
[07:19] <pass> ciao
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, I ask my question but anybody do not askme!
[07:19] <pass> !list
[07:19] <rhin0> you use sudo nano /etc/xorg.conf
[07:19] <rhin0> what is your question wahid_
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, How can i connect to socks5 server with user and pass authunticatio?
[07:19] <apt-getter> thanks, I'll try that
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, Test proxychains an some application!
[07:19] <wahid_> rhin0, But that's could not connect!
[07:20] <rhin0> out of my depth - socket server?  -- keep asking someone will know
[07:20] <rhin0> maybe worng password
[07:20] <apt-getter> ok well that might be the problem,  xorg.conf does not exist, when I run: nano /etc/xorg.conf it starts a new file
[07:21] <wahid_> rhin0, No thais true!
[07:21] <rhin0> you have to generate it -- it isn't there by default
[07:21] <rhin0> any more apt-getter
[07:21] <terminhell> thats not the full path to xorg
[07:21] <terminhell> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[07:21] <rhin0> ok
[07:21] <apt-getter> ahh
[07:21] <apt-getter> you guys are so helpful!
[07:21] <pass> ciao
[07:22] <safa> Salam wahid bhai. you checked here? http://linuxpakistan.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=33312
[07:22] <terminhell> dont be afraid to ls before you nano
[07:22] <pass> !list
[07:22] <apt-getter> ya...
[07:22] <apt-getter> lol
[07:22] <apt-getter> thats how I confirmed it was not there
[07:22] <amoffat> hi.  anyone know why lines printed to a pty end with cr+lf, and not just lf?  i thought windows did the cr+lf, not *nix
[07:22] <apt-getter> and it's not in the x11 file either
[07:23] <wahid_> rhin0, I need Other app to work correctly on the ubuntu!
[07:24] <Krisx> I'm trying to ssh my server, I had some problems with it so I reinstalled ubuntu and now I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/q8nsJf7t I can't seem to find the known_hosts file.
[07:24] <Ben64> Krisx: just manually edit the file
[07:24] <geirha> amoffat: It's whatever application that is writing to the pty that is responsible for those CRs
[07:25] <Krisx> I tried, its empty, the conflicting line doesn't even exist it seems
[07:25] <amoffat> geirha, interesting.  i'm seeing them from /bin/ls.  i guess ls is writing them...
[07:26] <sacarlson> Krisx: I would think you could just delete the known_hosts file and the message will go away
[07:26] <geirha> amoffat: It shouldn't. Perhaps your filenames end with \r?
[07:26] <Ben64> Krisx: cat ~/.ssh/known_hosts | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[07:26] <geirha> amoffat: How are you seeing these CRLF line endings btw?
[07:27] <superdave321> Does anybody have a recommendation for a backup application?
[07:27] <prashant_123456> which is the best download manager for ubuntu 11.10
[07:27] <Ben64> !best | prashant_123456
[07:28] <amoffat> geirha, i've execv'd /bin/ls from a python program, after forking with a pty.  but my reads on the pt file descriptor are showing \r\n all over my output from ls
[07:29] <urfr332gO> superdave321, I use clonzilla for full clones, but grsync for home.
[07:29] <geirha> amoffat: What if you exec /bin/echo foo  the same way?
[07:29] <superdave321> urfr332gO: Sweet. Thanks
[07:29] <apt-getter> anyone know why konquerer won't connect to the internet but chromium will?
[07:30] <apt-getter> same machine
[07:30] <urfr332gO> superdave321, no problem grsync is jus a gui for rsync
[07:30] <sacarlson> apt-getter: proxy settings?
[07:30] <terminhell> apt-getter: does it have a proxy enabled>
[07:30] <apt-getter> nope...
[07:30] <apt-getter> tried to set to auto just in case but that didn't fix it either
[07:30] <lyptusi> hi im after a mouse that the manufacturer has certified for linux such as logitech mk200
[07:30] <terminhell> dont use konqurer?
[07:31] <apt-getter> lol
[07:31] <apt-getter> that was my solution too
[07:31] <ozzloy> sometimes i accidentally hit ctl-z in emacs, which suspends it, then i alt+tab back to it and i can't see any changes i make after that.  how do i fix that/find out what's happening so i can fix it?
[07:31] <terminhell> KISS
[07:31] <apt-getter> exactly
[07:31] <apt-getter> couldn't get xChat to work but KVirc does
[07:31] <apt-getter> I'm so cofuzed there too
[07:31] <amoffat> geirha, hmm..i think it's a mis-set option on my pty.  thanks for your help..
[07:32] <terminhell> i dont like the pretentious nameing conventions of kde
[07:32] <pksadiq> ozzloy: after C-z, you should do fg command to bring it tor forground
[07:32] <apt-getter> fair enough
[07:32] <terminhell> k-pod
[07:32] <ozzloy> pksadiq, i didn't start it from a terminal
[07:32] <terminhell> *shutters*
[07:32] <apt-getter> I like the feel of kde better than gnome though
[07:32] <Jordan_U> !ot | terminhell
[07:32] <enum> test
[07:32] <terminhell> 0,o
[07:32] <NetRunnerBlack> does anyone know of a good anonymous emailer for ubuntu?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> enum: In the future, please use #test.
[07:33] <pksadiq> ozzloy: sorry, I don't use GUI emacs
[07:33] <NetRunnerBlack> I tried searching but I just wound up on the asshole side of the internet.
[07:33] <rabbi11> How to find the restore path of a file in the trash folder ?
[07:33] <ozzloy> pksadiq, thanks anyways
[07:33] <ozzloy> actually it's really late, i'm going to sleep
[07:34] <pksadiq> ozzloy: btw ask #emacs
[07:34] <rabbi11> When i say "Restore File" it saves to some directory, i need to know the path of that directory
[07:34] <geirha> rabbi11: Find and read the equivalent .trashinfo file in ~/.local/share/Trash/info
[07:34] <Saber-> Solution for mediatomb + mythtv not following symlinks unless you're logged in...  Move the music to their own home directories
[07:35] <ozzloy> pksadiq, i'm guessing they'll say "ask #ubuntu"
[07:35] <pksadiq> ozzloy: I don't think its related to ubuntu, but only emacs
[07:36] <Jordan_U> rabbi11: ~/.local/share/Trash/info/filename.trashinfo
[07:36] <rabbi11> geirha: i infact, reinstalled ubuntu, but din't delete the previous one, now i can't find it. but i find few files in trash, and tried to restore, but want to know the path, may be byluck i find my files there :)
[07:41] <safa> HI, i am not able to install my hp p1006 laserjet on my linux, here is some out put, http://paste.ubuntu.com/849634/ , I was following this howto, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[07:41] <Karmaon> what can vim do that sublime text 2 can't do?
[07:41] <rabbi11> geirha: can't find trash folder there
[07:42] <urfr332gO> safa, did you check if it may be in the data base in printers already?
[07:44] <safa> yes i checked, I is listed in list of hp printers, I selected that, but no success .
[07:44] <sun> hello
[07:44] <urfr332gO> safa, ah did you choose the cups setup?
[07:44] <theadmin> safa: Is hplip really installed? Check with "sudo apt-get install hplip"
[07:44] <theadmin> Karmaon: vim can do everything :P
[07:44] <Guest75293> please help me :)
[07:45] <Guest75293> i have form whose work on ajax
[07:45] <rhin0> ajax = programming
[07:45] <bobo37773> Guest75293: What is the problem?
[07:46] <bobo37773> Karmaon: can you edit multiple lines on the fly with command mode scripting like in vim?
[07:46] <safa> theadmin: sudo apt-get install hplip installed some stuff. Next please?
[07:47] <Guest75293> after filling form user send data to server where this data checking, problem is it form can send many times after filling this
[07:47] <theadmin> safa: Should basically work now with the standard printing setup, might need a reboot though
[07:47] <Guest75293> no programing, easy script )))
[07:47] <safa> theadmin: rebooting.. i will be back to you.
[07:47] <rabbi11> I did reinstall ubuntu, but din't delete the old one, or formatted the disk. how can i get the old data
[07:47] <Guest75293> how i can reject send form many times
[07:48] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, should be in the home panel if the partition is still there.
[07:48] <LigH> Mornings.
[07:48] <theadmin> morning LigH
[07:48] <betz1> Hi! I have a problem with my nvidia card. I had 10.04 running with 2.6.32 kernel i think. I upgraded kernel to 3.0.0-15-server. I had xbmc-standalone running on this box and all worked. when i try modprobe nvidia i get message that module nvidia is not found. What should i do?
[07:49] <theadmin> ...I just tried to tab-complete "morning" :/
[07:49] <LigH> :D
[07:50] <theadmin> betz1: The module might be renamed (iirc it's "nvidia-current" now), but then again if you're using an unofficial kernel, some modules might fail to work with it
[07:50] <apt-getter> betz, I am also getting the same error with my nvidia card
[07:50] <Ben64> betz1: 10.04 doesn't have a 3.0 kernel
[07:51] <bobo37773> betz1: rebuild nvidia
[07:51] <LigH> Recently I tested a few additional arts and desktop themes, amogn others also some from Edubuntu. Since then, Ubuntu starts with a gray-on-gray console with the title "Edubuntu 11.10", which I don't like. I tried to uninstall all packages starting with "edubuntu*", but it persists. How do I set it back?
[07:52] <betz1> Ben64: i installed it with apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-15-server
[07:52] <rabbi11> urfr332gO: can't find :(
[07:52] <apt-getter> LigH, you want to change the splash screen?
[07:52] <rabbi11> fdisk -l also results nothing
[07:53] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, you can use the disk utility or gparted as well to look at the HD, it may not be there.
[07:53] <betz1> theadmin: nvidia-current is already the newest version
[07:54] <LigH> apt-getter: It is the console "below" the splash. I once removed the "quiet splash" boot options to check why my PC often hangs while initializing devices but couldn't find any interesting warnings.
[07:54] <theadmin> betz1: Well, can you modprobe that?
[07:54] <betz1> nope, not nvidia, nor nvidia-current
[07:54] <betz1> not found
[07:54] <rabbi11> urfr332gO: i was lookin into it, i got 250 GB total, 12 GB ext3, and another 238 GB extended.... :( that's it ?
[07:54] <safa> theadmin: I restarted, and tried to print again.. no result for that HP p1006 printer.
[07:54] <apt-getter> check out this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-settings-for-the-bootloader-and-splash-screen-in-ubuntu.html
[07:55] <Ben64> betz1: you should go back to 2.6 kernel
[07:55] <apt-getter> this might have an option for adjusting the screen you want to change
[07:55] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, not knowing exactlt what you did I can't say more than the hd shows what is there. You have just one HD correct?
[07:55] <urfr332gO> exactly
[07:55] <theadmin> LigH: There's this bootsplash package, uh... "gfxboot-theme-ubuntu" I think, you need to install that.
[07:56] <betz1> ok, i wanted to have basic lirc working with upgrading to that kernel. Where it also works now.
[07:56] <rabbi11> how to force mount /dev/sd2 ?
[07:56] <LigH> theadmin: I believe there are several boot themes installed, just Synaptic did not list those with "edu" in the middle of a package name. / apt-getter: I believe "Manage bootloader themes" is the button I will click and see...
[07:56] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, you can imagebin the Hd looked at with gparted if you like.
[07:56] <Ben64> betz1: 3.0 kernel is backport, and isn't supported like the standard one is
[07:57] <rabbi11> urfr332gO: how could i do that?
[07:57] <rabbi11> got to load gparted ?
[07:57] <theadmin> rabbi11: "/dev/sd2" is not a device node udev would ever create
[07:57] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, take a screen shot with the prtsc key or app then put that image at a website I will give you so we can look at it.
[07:58] <betz1> Ben64: ok, installing latest 2.6
[07:58] <betz1> 2.6.38-13-server
[07:58] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, put the image here and post the url. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[07:58] <LigH> I'll better use grub-custmizer; startup-manager is not really grub2 compatible...
[07:59] <LigH> Ah, no ... it is not grub, it is afterwards.
[07:59] <bobo37773> betz1: cant you just reinstall nvidia
[07:59] <urfr332gO> rabbi11, yeah in the terminal sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:00] <LigH> So maybe a bash config detail.
[08:03] <betz1> bobo37773: how do i do that?
[08:03] <bobo37773> betz1: just install it like you normally would I mean. That doesn't wotk
[08:05] <Guest75293> what? nobody don't know how make this form?
[08:06] <theadmin> Guest75293: This is an Ubuntu channel, nothing to do with AJAX or whatever. Try the channel actually related to your problem in some way.
[08:07] <LigH> theadmin: I'll try a forum post, to continue with my daily work. :)
[08:07] <LigH> \o
[08:07] <theadmin> LigH: k, that might work better :D
[08:09] <bobo37773> Guest75293: what are you talking about?
[08:11] <ljsoftnet> is there a hard disk activity, code for conky?
[08:11] <Hubbbe> Hey, i did just buy two new laptops (asus x53S) and i cant get the graphic card (geforce 610M) to work.
[08:11] <terminhell> ljsoftnet: not sure, none that ive ever seen
[08:11] <Hubbbe> Is there any fix for this problem as i have googled it for a day with out finding a good solution?
[08:11] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: like the cpu or just how much has been used?
[08:12] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 like the cpu
[08:12] <x2x> Hi...
[08:12] <x2x> I have a question...
[08:12] <terminhell> go on
[08:12] <safa> Is it like that, hp1006 laser printer will never work on Linux?
[08:12] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: oh input output. You may have to write your own not sure
[08:12] <x2x> I am planning to setup 2 NFS server which in active-active mode where this NFS will connect to a LUN for the storage
[08:12] <terminhell> the conky website has a full list of supported arguments
[08:13] <x2x> how should I setup it?
[08:13] <x2x> anyone any idea?
[08:13] <terminhell> vertically
[08:14] <x2x> vertically?
[08:15] <georgieee> Hi, I have a card reader which ubuntu recognizes but it doesnt work. lsusb: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Card Reader/Writer - I have no idea how to get it working. Can anyone help?
[08:15] <terminhell> im not sure what a LUN is
[08:15] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 ok thanks terminhell
[08:16] <Guest41762> Hi all.. quick question . . how do i chown for joomla running on localhost LAMP
[08:16] <terminhell> sudo chown username /path/files
[08:17] <Hubbbe> Any one know if there is any way to get the nvidia gf 610M to work on x53s laptop?
[08:17] <x2x> terminhell, will connect to a external storage
[08:17] <x2x> pool
[08:17] <terminhell> Hubbbe: check the linux HCL sites
[08:17] <bobo37773> oh no ljsoftnet left it was diskio variable
[08:17] <terminhell> x2x: is their going to be other os clients accessing this?
[08:17] <Guest41762> thx terminhell
[08:18] <sacarlson> georgieee: seems that alcor has had isues for some time http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136196&page=2
[08:18] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 dude im here, il check diskio
[08:18] <x2x> same os client will access to these 2 NFS
[08:18] <sacarlson> georgieee: maybe if you go back before ubuntu 9 it might still work?
[08:18] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: oh I was spelling you wrong. right on
[08:19] <x2x> There are 4 server will be installed KVM which KVM's image stored on NFS server
[08:19] <terminhell> x2x: other than avahi, and appropriate client sides to the server side, i dont know what else you'll need
[08:19] <x2x> There are 2 NFS servers will be setup as Active-Active which both share a external storage
[08:19] <x2x> okay.
[08:20] <x2x> Thank you terminhell
[08:20] <georgieee> sacarioson: ^^ yeah maybe. But I don't wanna change the system. I researched the web and saw the same bug on launchpad and still no solution yet... thought I give it a try here.
[08:20] <terminhell> x2x: good luck
[08:20] <georgieee> scarioson: thank you though
[08:21] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: I see a graph but no bar graph like cpu. bummer. I would really like to incorporate this into my conky too
[08:21] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 im good with graph
[08:21] <terminhell> you have to parse the diskio to bar graph
[08:21] <safa_> my screen support more resolution but in display setting maximum option is showing,,= 1024X768, how to add more.
[08:21] <bobo37773> terminhell: how?
[08:21] <bobo37773> terminhell: let me look again
[08:22] <terminhell> i forget the syntax, but it should be able to do it like the cpu graph
[08:23] <terminhell> unless it checks IO like tops or w/e conky shows currently active proc's
[08:23] <bobo37773> terminhell: yeah there is a cpubar no diskiobar. hmm
[08:24] <terminhell> try it?
[08:24] <Hubbbe> Terminhell, i did not find anything on http://linuxhcl.com/ abut x53s or 610M :(
[08:24] <bobo37773> yep no dice
[08:24] <sahil_> no one is on #ubuntu +1
[08:24] <sahil_> :(
[08:24] <bobo37773> sahil_: what is that?
[08:24] <sahil_> chanel for precise..?
[08:24] <terminhell> ubuntu-1?
[08:24] <Corey> Then remain patient.
[08:24] <bobo37773> sahil_: oh beta channel gotcha
[08:25] <sahil_> hey dis mite be related...i resently broke my unity desktop
[08:25] <terminhell> Hubbbe: you could try to find a more specific chipset for your machine and widdle it down better
[08:26] <barlets> Is there a wikipedia channel on here?
[08:27] <sacarlson> barlets: there is a wiki on just about everything but the problem is you need to know the subject
[08:28] <barlets> sacarlson, A channel for wiki editors.
[08:29] <K-4U> Anybody know what to do when i can´t access the internet from CLI, but when i can from a browser?
[08:30] <bobo37773> ljsoftnet: Im out. Take care. read conky man page. everything you need is there
[08:30] <sahil_> bobo37773, can u help me debuging this problem? http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[08:30] <Hubbbe> terminhell: specific chipset? how when and where? ;)
[08:30] <Hubbbe> all i have found is ppl doing workarounds with Ironhide or bumblebee to get the graphics card working but seams to make up a lot more problems then it fix.
[08:30] <ljsoftnet> bobo37773 no problem
[08:30] <K-4U> Bumblebee i read?
[08:30] <bobo37773> sahil_: try another window manager
[08:30] <bobo37773> later
[08:31] <terminhell> Hubbbe: lscpi | grep vga
[08:32] <saruji> how can I create a link to docky for a program that is executes from command line,...there is not icon in the drop down menu...noob here, thank you
[08:32] <terminhell> rigt click...add launcher
[08:33] <Hubbbe> this is one of the "fixes" for the x53s gf 610M http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1791081
[08:33] <terminhell> link launcher path to your needs
[08:33] <Guest75293> sdfgd
[08:33] <Hubbbe> lscpi | grep vga
[08:33] <Hubbbe> No command 'lscpi' found, did you mean:
[08:34] <terminhell> lspci
[08:34] <sacarlson> K-4U I assume your browser on the same system is working due to proxy?
[08:34] <K-4U> sacarlson: No, i´m not using a proxy
[08:34] <sacarlson> K-4U: what browser?
[08:34] <sacarlson> K-4U: some browser have auto proxy
[08:35] <K-4U> sacarlson midori
[08:35] <playit> hey quick question
[08:35] <Hubbbe> if i copy in all iscpi in here dont i get band for spam? :)
[08:36] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lspci
[08:36] <Hubbbe> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[08:36] <playit> i read about some fortune 500 companies using linux for certain things
[08:36] <terminhell> lscpi | greb vga
[08:36] <aramisw> of course they does
[08:36] <terminhell> it should be a very short list...
[08:37] <playit> for those who keep track more than myself.. What specific things are they doing with it .. Is it mostly servers?
[08:37] <terminhell> workstations
[08:37] <aramisw> yes
[08:37] <terminhell> servers
[08:37] <playit> I read that dell / sony / some other big name companies
[08:37] <terminhell> super computers
[08:37] <Jordan_U> !ot | playit
[08:37] <playit> well heres my support related question that goes with that
[08:37] <Hubbbe> ye it is lscpi | greb vga is not working :(
[08:38] <Hubbbe> and i am on ubuntu unity
[08:38] <terminhell> grep
[08:38] <aramisw> i don't like unity
[08:38] <terminhell> not greb
[08:38] <Hubbbe> lscpi | grep vga did not work
[08:38] <playit> Im looking for the most powerful operating system I can use and while I think Ubuntu / linux as a whole is better than windows ( FOR SURE ) im having trouble because im trying to start / run a small business and it seems the open source apps may hold me back.
[08:39] <terminhell> Hubbbe: how did it not work?
[08:39] <gordon1234> terminhell, finger trouble, or has it been a long day :-)
[08:39] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lscpi | grep vga
[08:39] <Hubbbe> No command 'lscpi' found, did you mean:
[08:39] <Hubbbe>  Command 'lscpu' from package 'util-linux' (main)
[08:39] <Hubbbe>  Command 'lscp' from package 'nilfs-tools' (universe)
[08:39] <Hubbbe>  Command 'lspci' from package 'pciutils' (main)
[08:39] <FloodBot1> Hubbbe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:39] <Hubbbe> lscpi: command not found
[08:39] <playit> for instance open office / gnucash and their comparisons which I won't mention
[08:39] <terminhell> 0,o
[08:39] <K-4U> lol :P
[08:40] <aramisw> ......
[08:40] <terminhell> install lspci....blows my mind that its not installed already
[08:40] <Hubbbe> i cant
[08:40] <aramisw> omg
[08:40] <Hubbbe> thats the problem o.O
[08:40] <playit> are there any people who run their own business here and would you honestly recommend me use GNUcash / openoffice for it..
[08:40] <llutz> Hubbbe: LSPCI  lowercase, not lscpi
[08:40] <terminhell> install pciutils then
[08:41] <Hubbbe> i did that
[08:41] <aramisw> i never use those
[08:41] <llutz> Hubbbe: you didn't [09:39:23] <Hubbbe> lscpi: command not found
[08:41] <Ben64> playit: whats wrong with them?
[08:41] <Hubbbe> oh
[08:41] <playit> Its not that anything is wrong with them..
[08:42] <terminhell> llutz: thanks for catching my fat fingers
[08:42] <sacarlson> K-4U: when you say you don't have cli access to internet, does that mean that wget a page fails?  maybe just port 80 works on your isp?
[08:42] <K-4U> sacarlson: can´t ping either..
[08:42] <sacarlson> K-4U: ping is not port 80 and most windows systems mask ping
[08:43] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lspci|grep vga
[08:43] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$
[08:43] <Hubbbe> did not do anyting now
[08:43] <llutz> Hubbbe: lspci|grep -i vga
[08:43] <playit> Im thinking maybe Ubuntu has a place for me just as Windows  just as mac?
[08:43] <K-4U> sacarlson: If i can´t ping google...
[08:43] <Hubbbe> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:43] <Hubbbe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1058 (rev a1)
[08:43] <sacarlson> K-4U: again ping is not port 80,  what about wget ?
[08:43] <aramisw> actually i prefer linux than mac
[08:44] <playit> problem is getting them all together.. and playing nice and all
[08:44] <gordon1234> lspci | grep VGA (VGA upper case)
[08:44] <sacarlson> K-4U: wget will use port 80
[08:44] <K-4U> sacarlson: I can´t install packages, doesn´t that include port 80?
[08:44] <gordon1234> oops ... to late :-)
[08:44] <terminhell> maybe Hubbbe has to blacklist his intel?
[08:45] <Hubbbe> hubbe@Hubbe:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[08:45] <Hubbbe> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:45] <Hubbbe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1058 (rev a1)
[08:45] <K-4U> sacarlson: Wait, what? :| wget on google works... mind=fucked
[08:45] <playit> well I am a do it myself person but im also drawn to having 1 slick interface.. Kind of like Gnome 3.2 because I know that I couldn't customize my desktop as well on my own if you know what i mean
[08:45] <carl_> lu
[08:45] <terminhell> idk much about graphic cards.
[08:45] <pnorman_win> K-4U: What's your ISP?
[08:45] <god-zotac> guess i could share this info if anyone has a e-350/450 apu and trying to get hardware acceleration working with xv in precise 12.04.. don't expect it to work for a while. xv playback is broken with fglrx in versions 11.11, 11.12, and 12.1. however gl playback is fine with hardware acceleration in fglrx version 11.12, but not in 12.1 or 11.11.  i messed with it all night until i figured out the optimal settings with the latest xorg abi
[08:45] <K-4U> pnorman_win: No idea.. i´m at work now.. i´m from holland
[08:45] <playit> i'll take this to offtopic.. If anyone wants to talk about it there
[08:46] <sacarlson> K-4U: my work also filtered only let out and in on port 80
[08:46] <pnorman_win> K-4U: Some brain-dead ISPs block HTTP traffic based on user-agent
[08:46] <K-4U> sacarlson: But, i could install packages yesterday.. and at my other ubuntu box...
[08:46] <oCean> K-4U: control your language here, please
[08:47] <sacarlson> pnorman_win: K-4U: at my work it was part secuity and part stoping people from playing chess and other games
[08:47] <aramisw> yes
[08:47] <aramisw> thats strange job
[08:48] <Hubbbe> ah blacklist intel like here?
[08:48] <Hubbbe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/582829
[08:48] <Hubbbe> :(
[08:48] <sacarlson> K-4U: you can setup your home system to have ssh open on port 80 then you can connect to that and access the world from work
[08:49] <sacarlson> K-4U: that's what we did to watch porn from work
[08:49] <gordon1234> Hubbbe, you have 2 graphics adapters. One on boards and one card. Is that correct? Have you set the BIOS for the new card? Might be a dumb question.
[08:49] <oCean> sacarlson: try to keep the channel professional, thanks
[08:49] <god-zotac> ssh -X  ftw
[08:50] <K-4U> sacarlson: no.. it´s weird, i couldn´t install packages a couple of minutes ago, now i can..
[08:50] <sacarlson> oCean: just trying to demonstrate that anything can be worked around
[08:50] <oCean> sacarlson: using examples not acceptable in this channel. Please don't
[08:50] <terminhell> nice, vlc supports blueray now
[08:50] <terminhell> !ot | terminhell
[08:51] <Hubbbe> i dont know but i read some where that it might have 2 graphic cards, can i turn one of in bios? and do that help
[08:51] <sacarlson> K-4U: well packages can still be installed on port 80 so take out the repository that don't us port 80
[08:51] <Hubbbe> its a x53s laptop its not like i have built it myself ;)
[08:51] <terminhell> Hubbbe: just check in the bios
[08:51] <Hubbbe> ok thx will do
[08:52] <terminhell> Hubbbe: see if you have an option of enabling/disabling one or the other
[08:52] <gordon1234> Hubbbe, I think you have to set the defaul graphics card in the BIOS to use the AGP card, or whatever. Not sure though
[08:52] <safa> Hi, 10.11,  here is link that shows how to change resolution with xrandr, " http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html " In Last there is a file that is not present in 10.11 Where to save the last step, please need a guidance
[08:52] <Hubbbe> laters and thx again
[08:52] <terminhell> g/l
[08:52] <Hubbbe> will try t now
[08:53] <ryanyeah> goddamn it. trying to increase the resolution of a ubuntu box im accessing via vnc and nothing i can find on google works. not even sure if creating the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf made any difference
[08:53] <Hubbbe> ah wait have 2 of the same laptop here can try on the other one :D
[08:53] <oCean> ryanyeah: no swearing here
[08:54] <Ben64> ryanyeah: are you connecting to :0 or a screen made for vnc?
[08:54] <theadmin> ryanyeah: I'd check the VNC server/client configs as well
[08:54] <terminhell> ryanyeah: some monitor's just cant be changed?
[08:54] <barlets> By the way, I hear the circumcision article is guarded by circumfetishists preventing edits to make it more neutral and accurate.
[08:55] <terminhell> uhhhh what?
[08:55] <oCean> barlets: wrong channel
[08:56] <abuanoname2> Tes hallo
[08:56] <ryanyeah> terminhell: well i don't have a physical monitor attached to it. but i go into the ubuntu resolution settings and the max is only 800x600. i can change settings to 150% on tightvnc but that just zooms in, so it does increase resolution but it makes it blurry
[08:56] <abuanoname2> Anybody
[08:56] <zth_> abuanoname2, hello
[08:56] <terminhell> ryanyeah: is compression on, or scailing?
[08:57] <Ben64> ryanyeah: you'd have to set resolution on the vncserver
[08:57] <playit> quick question
[08:57] <abuanoname2> Hai am need make or used standar gnome on ubntu 11.10
[08:57] <playit> which virtualbox guest runs the best on linux?
[08:57] <abuanoname2> Who i can.. Am not love unity
[08:57] <playit> mac or windows?
[08:57] <theadmin> abuanoname2: You can't use gnome2 anymore, it's dead
[08:58] <ryanyeah> terminhell: not that i'm aware of. Ben64: i'm using the default "Remote desktop" included in ubuntu and it doesn't seem to have many options
[08:58] <oCean> !nounity | abuanoname2
[08:58] <theadmin> playit: Mac hardly works in Virtualbox at all (last I tested, Lion failed on me at least), Windows NT and up works fine, any Linux distro with kernel 2.6+ work fine too
[08:58] <abuanoname2> Am need install compiz 3d cobe on ububtu 11.10
[08:58] <playit> thanks
[09:00] <Hubbbe> Terminhell: i don't have mush to pick in the BIOS this it is "Intel Virtualization Technology" that i should turn to disable?
[09:00] <theadmin> playit: Also, the Windows Developer Preview currently fails to boot in Virtualbox, sadly.
[09:00] <Hubbbe> is it* :P
[09:00] <terminhell> Hubbbe: doubt it
[09:01] <tonesfrommars> Greetings: can anyone advise me on a dual-boot (Maverick-XP) grub2 issue? I have 2 separate drives, defreagged the XP drive (where grub is) and it's gone haywire.
[09:01] <theadmin> abuanoname2: Install "compizconfig-settings-manager" and enable the Cube plugin.
[09:01] <theadmin> tonesfrommars: "gone haywire" doesn't make much sense -- does it take a chainsaw and try to kill you? What is the exact behaviour?
[09:02] <erik32533> hi
[09:02] <abuanoname2> Theadmin that make my ubuntu error...
[09:02] <erik32533> all i have question on java
[09:02] <playit> anyone run windows in a constant virtualbox?
[09:02] <terminhell> god no
[09:02] <theadmin> playit: "constant"?
[09:02] <tonesfrommars> theadmin: sorry, it sent me to grub rescue prompt.
[09:02] <theadmin> tonesfrommars: Ah, hm.
[09:02] <sacarlson> tonesfrommars: did you install windows xp after ubuntu?  other option run windows xp in virtualbox
[09:02] <terminhell> tonesfrommars: reinstall grub
[09:02] <theadmin> !recovergrub | tonesfrommars
[09:02] <erik32533> does anyone know how to get yur java setting
[09:03] <erik32533> on ubuntu
[09:03] <theadmin> !restoregrub | tonesfrommars
[09:03] <tonesfrommars> couldn't load normal or ntfscomp modules
[09:03] <abuanoname2> Blank.. Instruksi
[09:03] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | tonesfrommars
[09:03] <Hubbbe> i only have 5 tabs, main, advanced, boot, security, save & exit... on advanced there is only 9 options.
[09:03] <Hubbbe> post logo type, start easy flash, play post sound, internal pointing device, wake on lid open, intel virtualization technology, legacy usb support, SATA configuration
[09:03] <erik32533> hello?
[09:04] <terminhell> erik32533: install jre6
[09:04] <Hubbbe> dont look like anyting to turn off one of the graphic cards
[09:04] <oCean> terminhell: have you read his question?
[09:04] <tonesfrommars> thanks, I have spent hours with the restoregrub docs, will have a look at the script.
[09:04] <erik32533> i was told it aint secure
[09:04] <gordon1234> Hubbe, under Main is there an option for integrated devices or on-board devices?
[09:05] <abuanoname2> Change boot loader how to...
[09:05] <erik32533> ice tea java
[09:05] <erik32533> plugin
[09:05] <terminhell> what kind of settings erik32533
[09:05] <abuanoname2> Am need put picture on boot loader
[09:05] <Hubbbe> all i can config under main is date and time
[09:05] <erik32533> in yahoo spades
[09:05] <erik32533> i can type in the louge
[09:05] <playit> is it possible to run linux in a mac guest efficiently?
[09:06] <erik32533> when i join a game new windows  pops up i can play the game\
[09:06] <Ben64> playit: try it and find out
[09:06] <terminhell> Hubbbe: Not sure then, you may just have to wait longer for support to come around for your chipset
[09:06] <erik32533> but i cant chat or type
[09:06] <playit> Ben64: lend me the money first
[09:06] <sahil_> my unity is broken...this is what i get wen i do "unity --reset"http://pastebin.com/1kjzfJCB
[09:06] <Ben64> playit: no
[09:06] <playit> Promise i'll give it back......
[09:06] <gordon1234> Hubbe, how old is the PC?
[09:07] <abuanoname2> Anybody can help for some solution
[09:07] <Hubbbe> so my best bet is to return the 2 x53s's & buy somting that have suport?
[09:07] <erik32533> on jre6
[09:07] <pangolin> sahil_: please do not post questions concerning 12.04 in this channel
[09:07] <Lantizia> Can someone name a good x86/x86_64 tablet to put Ubuntu on to?  And don't say the HCL as it doesn't list tablets.
[09:07] <Jordan_U> playit: That sentence doesn't make sense. The guest OS is the OS within the virtual machine. The host OS is the OS running the Virtualization softare.
[09:07] <erik32533> i got knocked out of room
[09:07] <erik32533> several times
[09:07] <Hubbbe> 1day
[09:07] <playit> running linux on mac osx host
[09:08] <theadmin> playit: Virtualbox does that just fine
[09:08] <Hubbbe> gordon1234 i did buy 2 x53s laptops yesterday
[09:08] <gordon1234> Hubbbe, eek! Not sure what to do then
[09:08] <playit> but not the other way around.. That might be what I look to do then
[09:08] <Jordan_U> playit: Yes, that can be done fairly efficiently with Virtualbox. Hardware accellerated 3D won't be great though.
[09:08] <erik32533> too bad the dos emu are crap
[09:08] <fidel> playit: running osx on non-apple hw is so far not legal - > not supported
[09:08] <Hubbbe> :(
[09:08] <nicofs> Is there an application that will flash on my screen if there is any sound? I need to run my system muted/silent and want to be notified of sound optically...
[09:08] <fidel> according to the weirdos licenses
[09:09] <terminhell> intel cpu's now
[09:09] <terminhell> as far as im concerned its fair game now
[09:09] <terminhell> but im sure their eula fixes that
[09:09] <fidel> for sure its possible - but not allowed
[09:09] <erik32533> jre6 is not supported
[09:09] <Jordan_U> nicofs: By default, if any sound is played while the mixer is muted the volume icon in the top of the screen will turn red, if that helps any.
[09:09] <terminhell> erik32533: do you have flash installed as well?
[09:10] <erik32533> yes
[09:10] <terminhell> 32 or 64bit/
[09:10] <pksadiq> /quit]
[09:10] <erik32533> 32 bit
[09:10] <terminhell> no idea
[09:10] <erik32533> im on p4 hyper threading machinbe
[09:11] <nicofs> Jordan_U, I know about that - but that's a bit too minimalistic... I'd prefer my whole screen to turn red for a sec or something similar...
[09:11] <terminhell> it could just be yahoo
[09:11] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: When you're done running boot info script please post a link to the RESULTS.txt so we can see it to try to diagnose the exact cause of the problem.
[09:11] <erik32533> jre6 i cud type
[09:11] <erik32533> but got knocxked out of room
[09:11] <erik32533> several times
[09:12] <nicofs> I had hoped there would be something because that's something deaf people could use...
[09:12] <erik32533> firefox needs to make up mind on version number
[09:12] <erik32533> 9 then 10 now 11
[09:13] <somsip> erik32533: yeah - tricky sequence that
[09:13] <erik32533> all within a year
[09:13] <Jordan_U> nicofs: I don't think that it's something that is going to be a standard option (if it is, it would probably be for accessability). If anyone would know how to hack something together to do it though, I would expect it would be someone in #pulseaudio.
[09:13] <oCean> erik32533: it's just a new release cycle, there will be plenty more
[09:13] <georgieee> I am using  grsync but why does file sync take so long? is there no faster way?
[09:13] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: thanks, here it is: http://pastebin.com/7UUQmSqi
[09:13] <erik32533> if chome wud make interface different it be good
[09:14] <erik32533> chrome
[09:14] <terminhell> erik32533: try another browser, see if you get the same errors
[09:14] <nicofs> Jordan_U, I'll try my luck there - but if accessability wise such a thing does not exist, maybe it should be implemented...
[09:14] <oCean> erik32533: this is not the channel to rant about browsers. Have you verified java is working (for other aplications?)
[09:14] <erik32533> ya already did
[09:14] <erik32533> 'firefox
[09:14] <erik32533> 10
[09:14] <gordon1234> georgieee, do you mean rsync?
[09:14] <erik32533> wud not get there
[09:15] <oCean> erik32533: Have you verified java is working for other aplications?
[09:15] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Do you remember what error message you got from "insmod normal" at the grub rescue shell?
[09:15] <georgieee> gordon1234, well grsync is the gui for rsync so yes.
[09:15] <erik32533> how do i verify
[09:15] <erik32533> yahoo says it verified
[09:16] <erik32533> if not i cud not playt games
[09:16] <tonesfrommars> yes, any insmod commands returned "ntfscomp module not loaded" or something to that effect
[09:16] <oCean> erik32533: there are test pages, such as http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[09:16] <tonesfrommars> However, I have made some headway since then, now I can actually get a grub prompt.
[09:17] <tonesfrommars> I have been booting from a "super grub2 disk"
[09:17] <erik32533> yea its verified
[09:19] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: If you use the "Detect any GRUB2 installation" option from Super GRUB2 Disk does grub load properly?
[09:19] <gordon1234> georgieee, if you are doing an rsync -av (standard backup option), it does take a while as it copies all the file permissions etc. Even slower if you are doing it between different physical drives. Still faster than anything else I have found
[09:19] <gordon1234> georgieee, it will be much faster the second time as only the changes are copied!
[09:20] <tonesfrommars> and trying to grub-install from the terminal, but I'm finding it difficult since the "main" drive, the only one bios sees as bootable, is not the one I run ubuntu from.
[09:20] <MeriD> Hello. How can I exclude files with a specific prefix with wildcards?
[09:20] <georgieee> gordon1234, yeah I know. still it is very annoying that it takes longer than copy/paste.
[09:20] <erik32533> is opera web browser around or is it dead
[09:20] <cowslammer> i just instlled 11.10.  firefox has no button bar.  is there some key I have toapply to get it back?
[09:20] <theadmin> erik32533: It's very much alive lol
[09:20] <theadmin> cowslammer: The menu is at the top bar, like it usually is with Unity
[09:21] <erik32533> not as good as firefox im sure
[09:21] <georgieee> gordon1234, I am syncing 8GBSD-Card <> Hard Drive - estimated time: 90minutes
[09:21] <theadmin> erik32533: There's no "good" or "bad", it's a matter of taste, I like Chrome much more than Firefox personally.
[09:22] <erik32533> wish chrome wud allow u to change interface
[09:22] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: If it does, then that likely means that the core.img embedded after the mbr does not match the one in /boot/grub/. If grub still fails to load, then you've probably run run into a grub bug.
[09:22] <cowslammer> theadmin i hate to argue but there is no menu
[09:22] <gordon1234> georgieee, copy/paste won't copy the file permissions properly and will give you issues if it is for back/restore purposes. Fine for just copying stuff though and I am sure there is an rsync option that would do this.
[09:22] <theadmin> cowslammer: Oh, uh, I mean, the top panel, at the *very* top of the screen (not top of window, top of screen)
[09:23] <theadmin> cowslammer: Hover your mouse over there and you'll see the usual menu appear
[09:23] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: Yes, it appears to load the original config, with my splash image and menu options.
[09:23] <tonesfrommars> With one difference, there are many duplicate entries for the linux OS
[09:23] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: OK. That means that *properly* running grub-install should fix the problem.
[09:24] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Can you pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc"?
[09:25] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: One other piece of relevant info to bounce off you: I first apt-get installed grub, but then later realized I needed grub-pc, I think that explains the legacy grub on the one drive.
[09:25] <theadmin> erik32533: "change interface"? It has tons of themes, you can drag buttons around freely, extensions add nifty bits to the interface too.
[09:25] <tonesfrommars> yes, I'll run that command.
[09:27] <quietone> can anyone help me get usb speakers working? 11.10 on older desktop
[09:28] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/NEF8kC2A
[09:31] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: OK. I think that grub-install might not be running properly on upgrades. I recommend running "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy". It will ask you what drives to install grub to, use space bar to select devices and the enter key to continue. You should select both drives (that way booting won't fail if your BIOS decides to boot from a different drive) but you should *not* select any partitions.
[09:32] <cowslammer> can someone tell me how to get sun java?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !java | cowslammer
[09:32] <quietone> I have been searching/trying suggestions but still silent.
[09:33] <sahil_> how to recover config files...i shed those with ubuntu tweak janitor and now desktop is broken
[09:33] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: I'm on it. (fingers crossed)
[09:33] <quietone> The speakers worked just fine in 10.04 but not at all in 11.10
[09:33] <sahil_> classic gnome working fine....rest not working
[09:37] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: installation finished w/out errors, should I lose the legacy config files?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Yes, just to avoid future confusion.
[09:39] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: wonderful, any indicators to look at, or shall I try reboot now?
[09:40] <Jordan_U> tonesfrommars: Try reboot.
[09:40] <tonesfrommars> Jordan_U: thanks a million for your help, I've been banging away at this for hours. Much appreciated.
[09:41] <Pikkachu> jrewhy is noeiric-backport called that way? is it in this sense http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting ?
[09:44] <Pikkachu> why is oneiric-backport named that way when description says unsupported updates? I can't get it
[09:46] <Night_fury> :)
[09:46] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Because it has package versions from Precise.
[09:47] <Night_fury> Little help anyone?
[09:48] <Pikkachu> theadmin: precise packages backported to oneiric? why not just put it there in main repos 'security' and 'update'?
[09:48] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Not so sure really, Ubuntu people have some weird release system (not apply major updates to existing releases, just make users get the newer release)
[09:49] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Makes sense in terms of stability, but for some packages it doesn't
[09:51] <TA5K> This happens with open source's success ... http://osxdaily.com/2010/05/17/disable-growl-notifications/ :)
[09:51] <JadedJacob> offtopic but how do i work out what voltage i need for my 3.5" sata drive enclosure
[09:52] <Pikkachu> theadmin: releases have a low lifecycle so I don't think major changes locking is a big issue, you'd have to wait for 6 months at max
[09:52] <Pikkachu> theadmin: for what package it would be more stange to deliver bigger changes?
[09:54] <pablo_> Good morning
[09:56] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Well, for instance, not giving me VLC 2.0 when it includes a *ton* of fixes is just strange imo
[09:57] <crizzy> theadmin: there is ppa for vlc 2.0...
[09:57] <theadmin> Pikkachu: But, for instance, getting in a huge upgrade to, for instance, Unity or Gnome into the older release might be something people won't like
[09:57] <crizzy> that's what ppa's are for
[09:57] <theadmin> crizzy: I know, I'm just trying to explain the Ubuntu's release philosophy to Pikkachu
[09:57] <theadmin> crizzy: I don't honestly care, not an Ubuntu user myself :D
[09:58] <zach> help
[09:59] <Pikkachu> theadmin: well you'll be given those *ton* of fixes in six months I suppose :D
[09:59] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Yep :P Actually less by now, like what... 2 months left
[10:00] <Pikkachu> theadmin: yeah, if it will eevr be included in next release heh
[10:00] <Pikkachu> theadmin: someone told me once non-LTSes are betas
[10:01] <aBound> Pikkachu, They do kinda feel like it.
[10:01] <theadmin> Pikkachu: Well... that's not exactly true, but yeah they're less stable
[10:01] <no_gravity> Hello! Do I see it correctly, that the package "vim-conque" is part of Ubuntu 12 but not of Ubuntu 10?
[10:04] <nyuszika7h> !info vim-conque maverick
[10:05] <nyuszika7h> !info vim-conque precise
[10:06] <nyuszika7h> no_gravity: Yes, you see it correctly.
[10:06] <Pikkachu> aBound: I'm feeling like that right now in pidgin, spell check not working...not showing in tray or whatever...exiting when I click close (when in tray -- as set in config -- it should hide not exit)...:'-(
[10:06] <no_gravity> nyuszika7h: thanks
[10:06] <Pikkachu> theadmin: annoyingly unstable
[10:06] <nyuszika7h> You're welcome. By the way, if you don't want to spam the channel, you can always /msg ubuntu !info package release
[10:07] <nyuszika7h> s/ubuntu/ubottu/
[10:07] <|newbie|> hi alll
[10:07] <nyuszika7h> Hi
[10:07] <|newbie|> how re u?
[10:07] <DangerousDave> Hi All!
[10:08] <aBound> Most people tend to recommend LTS releases due to the long-term support. Fixes are more likely to fixed more often so it seems.
[10:09] <Pikkachu> aBound: it looks like the other releases are steps towards a freeze which they call LTS
[10:09] <Pikkachu> aBound: so they don't matter that much to experiment with stuff in the other releases, but they wonder to be stable in LTS I suppose
[10:09] <aBound> Pikkachu, Kinda like what Fedora does with it's Enterprise product.
[10:10] <hypeBoy> hi, how can i install divx player for websites? or is there any alternative i can use?
[10:10] <Pikkachu> aBound: I'm not sure if I like this :(
[10:11] <aBound> Pikkachu, At least you can expect a more stable release at best. Before moving onto the next upgrade.
[10:12] <Pikkachu> aBound: but you keep stuck on old software
[10:13] <aBound> Usually, latest releases try to keep an update to date package repository. Yet, there are bound to be a few unstable packages in each release.
[10:13] <Pikkachu> aBound: you're already stuck in regular releases, much more with LTS :( I imagine they do a lot of backporting for LTS
[10:14] <aBound> Pikkachu, Put it this way would you rather have stability or the latest packages?
[10:14] <crizzy> PPA's are for updating newer softies you need
[10:14] <aBound> The saying goes: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". :)
[10:14] <hypeBoy> Pikkachu: how can i install divx web player. i wanna play divx videos on websites
[10:15] <aBound> Like VIM for example I doubt I'd need a new release when one comes out as it might only include minor features. Yet, if a vulnerability exist in the program itself an update is definitely necessary.
[10:17] <pawa> LUSERS
[10:17] <Pikkachu> aBound: that's why I imagine a lot of backporting...because time is often a bug itself... for example libreoffice releases new stuff with big improvements you feel annoyed not having access to, and lots of bug fixing...usptream tend to not support old versions and encourange updating... while in ubuntu these old versions are still there in the LTSes to be maintained... by Canonical (that's why I imagine a lot of backporting for the most important bugs)
[10:17] <Pikkachu> hypeBoy: I have no idea
[10:18] <crizzy> sigh
[10:18] <crizzy> again: PPA's are exactly for that - updating certain packages outside the distro updates
[10:19] <aBound> Pikkachu, I agree with the whole bugs aspect but with newer features it's only necessary if it benefits you in some way otherwise upgrading may not be necessary.  Each app you want a new version needs to have a ppa availabe somewhere, that's not automatic, and the ppa must be reliable. For example #pidgin does not support ppas other than theirs
[10:21] <aBound> He does have a valid point it's just using Ubuntu or any Linux distribution tends to work different from other OS's.
[10:22] <fireball_> I cannot see the xchat system tray icon on my ubuntu system pls help
[10:23] <Spanky> Anybody know how to mount Samba share in fstab?
[10:23] <totesmuhgoats> i am waiting till april's release for an update to bitlbee
[10:23] <totesmuhgoats> i haven't been able to connect to hotmail in ages
[10:23] <Pikkachu> fireball_: 11.10 + unity? I can't see my pidgin tray icon there either :(
[10:24] <totesmuhgoats> it was funny because a friend of mine asked me why i idn't add him on msn yet, and i told him that i wouldn't till april
[10:24] <totesmuhgoats> he thought i was kidding
[10:24] <totesmuhgoats> i gave him no more explanation than that
[10:25] <aBound> Does Pidgin use an icon in the try for 11.10?
[10:25] <aBound> Usually, it's kept in Unity's sidebar I'd figure.
[10:25] <Guest7787> hello
[10:26] <Guest7787> I cannot see the xchat system tray icon on my taskbar
[10:26] <ankit> hh
[10:26] <Pikkachu> aBound: I see the hidden scrollbar so I suppose it's using gtk2, it doesn't know unity exists, I think it adds a tray icon to gnome panel which is not running so...
[10:27] <aBound> Ahh, I forgot you were using an older version.
[10:27] <Guest7787> I cannot see the xchat system tray icon on my taskbar pls help
[10:27] <Guest7787> I use natty 32bit
[10:28] <Pikkachu> aBound: it's shown in the sidebar regardless but you have to remember to minimize buddy list not close it, it's annoying (because in gnome 2, closing it with tray icon enabled would close buddy list not whole app)
[10:28] <Pikkachu> aBound: an older version of what?
[10:28] <aBound> Pikkachu, I'd figure you were using an older version of Ubuntu.
[10:29] <mustafaerhann> hello
[10:29] <Pikkachu> aBound: no it's 11.10 + Unity, but unity does not have tray support as in gnome 2, it seems
[10:29] <aBound> Guest7787, Doesn't Natty use Unity and it's on the sidebar?
[10:29] <liuxu_> hello
[10:29] <aBound> Pikkachu, I noticed yet as long as I can see it on my sidebar.
[10:29] <Guest7787> I use gnome 2 with no effect aBound
[10:30] <mustafaerhann> i have skystar 2 dvb card plugged in pci slot. i installed ME tv but me Tv shows no dvb device found msg.
[10:31] <Pikkachu> Guest7787: maybe it's a problem with xchat, no?
[10:31] <Guest7787> I dont know Pikkachu
[10:31] <RobinJ1995> Hi. I've got a bit of a problem here... When I enter my password in LightDM and press enter the screen just flickers and goed straight back to LightDM
[10:32] <Pikkachu> Guest7787: #xchat
[10:32] <Guest7787> ok
[10:32] <neopsyche> hi
[10:32] <neopsyche> having issue with permissions
[10:32] <Guest7787> thanks Pikkachu
[10:32] <neopsyche> cache wont clear on firefox
[10:32] <aBound> Guest7787, I'm not familiar with Gnome 2 I'd also assume that Natty uses Unity as it's default and Gnome 2 fallback.
[10:33] <Pikkachu> aBound: unity in natty runs on gnome 2
[10:33] <RobinJ1995> I think I might have removed a wron package or something >.< Yesterday I had a dependency hell while trying to install Unity 5.4. In installed the version from the normal repo's again but I might have forgotten to install a few packages. When I run startx manually from tty1 I just get a black background and a white cursor.
[10:34] <RobinJ1995> Could anyone help me with my somewhat extremely frustrating problem..?
[10:34] <aBound> Isn't GTK a separate project from Gnome.
[10:35] <aBound> RobinJ1995, We can't help ya if we don't know the problem.
[10:35] <aBound> Blah.
[10:35] <aBound> I'm tripping.
[10:35] <Pikkachu> aBound: afaik GTK is a gui toolkit like Swing, SWT, ATW, Qt etc
[10:36] <Pikkachu> aBound: and gnome is bult on top of it
[10:36] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Unity 5.4 isn't part of the official repository for Ubuntu 11.10 and older.
[10:36] <Spanky> Figured it out....
[10:36] <fisherman> ping
[10:36] <Spanky> But I won't tell....  :-)
[10:37] <RobinJ1995> aBound, i know... i just said i reinstalled the one from the normal repo's (4.x). But i might have forgotten to install some packages again :s
[10:37] <RobinJ1995> is it normal that I can't seem to find a sessions folder anymore in Ubuntu 11.10?
[10:39] <aBound> Not that I know of.
[10:39] <digitalunity> could someone give me a pointer on unpacking  atar file pls?
[10:40] <aBound> You can check for broken dependencies and using: sudo apt-get check
[10:41] <RobinJ1995> ...
[10:41] <RobinJ1995> aBound, they arent broken anymore.... because i installed the older ones again... i just think i forgot to install some vital package which causes lightdm to not being able to launch a unity session
[10:42] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Are you able to install another GUI such as gnome-shell from a terminal?
[10:42] <RobinJ1995> aBound, i can chroot into the system.... but do i have to install a lot of bloat? xD
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> what the...
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> right... chrooting from a 32-bits distro into a 64-bits environment seems to be a ngo
[10:43] <RobinJ1995> *no-go
[10:43] <[deXter]> Duh. :P
[10:43] <aBound> HA! I'd say just install it from now and you can remove it later. You can delete the excess from using these commands: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:43] <[deXter]> You can't chroot from 32 to 64.
[10:44] <RobinJ1995> i know. only i forgot that bodhi linux only has a 32-bit iso
[10:44] <RobinJ1995> >.<
[10:44] <[deXter]> ooh.
[10:44] <RobinJ1995> brb, ill boot into something else
[10:44] <aBound> [deXter], Howdy dex.
[10:44] <[deXter]> Heh.. heya aBound. :)
[10:45] <aBound> Looks like when he installed a testing version of Unity 5.4 all you can expect is problems. But thereafter when he upgraded it could of removed a few packages necessary to use an older version of Unity.
[10:46] <[deXter]> Ouch.
[10:47] <RobinJ1995> ok lets try again
[10:48] <aBound> RobinJ1995, I would say if you were logged into gnome-shell you can check Synaptic.
[10:48] <RobinJ1995> er
[10:48] <RobinJ1995> i  can do the same now with aptitude...
[10:50] <aBound> sudo apt-get install unity? It might check for certain packages.
[10:50] <RobinJ1995> hmm ok
[10:50] <RobinJ1995> think i did that already but lets try
[10:50] <aspirintoo> hi, im trying to compile git source, but it stops at [ make && sudo make install ] showing this {make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.}
[10:50] <RobinJ1995> already the newest version iy says
[10:51] <aBound> Blah!
[10:51] <crazyrohila> hi all
[10:52] <crazyrohila> I am trying a script to show on desktop . how to do that ?
[10:52] <crazyrohila> to show a calendar on desktop *
[10:53] <aspirintoo> any help on how to use make install command?
[10:53] <RobinJ1995> aBound, this is my lightdm log:
[10:53] <RobinJ1995> http://paste.ubuntu.com/849793/
[10:53] <aBound> I understand what you're saying by missing vital packages and what not. But I can't seem to find a list of packages that are necessary for Unity. I doubt the command: unity --replace
[10:53] <aBound> Will fix it.
[10:53] <RobinJ1995> lol xD
[10:54] <RobinJ1995> course not
[10:54] <RobinJ1995> plus im using unity 2d
[10:54] <aBound> From the log it seems it's missing the NV driver module.
[10:54] <RobinJ1995> the only odd thing i can see is that there's not sessions folder... but maybe it isnt supposed to be there anymore in 11.10?
[10:54] <Taneb> Hello
[10:54] <Taneb> My num-pad isn't working
[10:55] <RobinJ1995> aBound, yeah but that shpws up in EVERY xorg lol and the problem only happened today
[10:55] <RobinJ1995> Taneb, turn on numlock
[10:55] <Taneb> Tried it
[10:55] <aBound> Taneb, Do you have something on your keyboard called Num Lk?
[10:55] <Taneb> Num Lock
[10:56] <Taneb> I've tried that
[10:56] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Are you able to boot into any other GUI or window manager besides Unity?
[10:56] <aBound> Num Lk is highlighted in blue if you're using a certain laptop.
[10:56] <memyself> is there anyway easy way to setup a usb adsl modem on ubuntu ?
[10:56] <RobinJ1995> aBound, dunno havent got any :p
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> ill try gluxbox
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> fluxbox
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> or openbox or icewm, whatever
[10:57] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Figures if you can't boot into any other GUI or window manager it might actually be missing an nVidia driver.
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> k
[10:57] <RobinJ1995> in other words, it has probablt installed a newer version of xorg somewhere
[10:58] <RobinJ1995> *probably
[10:58] <RobinJ1995> lets try
[10:58] <RobinJ1995> bye
[11:01] <gregoire> hi
[11:01] <Timecop> can same one help me
[11:01] <gregoire> Does someone could help me with iptables?
[11:03] <oCean> Timecop, gregoire, guys, just ask the question. Find out if someone knows
[11:03] <gregoire> ok
[11:03] <Timecop> Stopping domain name service... bind9 rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[11:03] <DarkStar1> do you know how to minimise a full screen window so that I can get hold of the 3 window buttons
[11:03] <aBound> gregoire, They have a Netfilter channel.
[11:03] <Timecop> bind 9
[11:03] <ikonia> Timecop: sounds like it's already stopped
[11:03] <Timecop> ubuntu 11.10
[11:03] <gregoire> ok I go there :)
[11:03] <aBound> gregoire, #netfilter
[11:03] <DarkStar1> in ubuntu 11.10
[11:03] <Timecop> i get that what i try to start it
[11:04] <Timecop> yep DarkStar1
[11:04] <ikonia> Timecop: then why is the error messages stopping
[11:04] <ikonia> Timecop: if you where issuing a start command it would say "error starting" not error "stopping"
[11:04] <RobinJ1995> openbox
[11:04] <RobinJ1995> works
[11:04] <DarkStar1> anyone? the ff downloads window has taken my screen hostage
[11:04] <Parham> Hi everyone. I had Tomcat6 installed on my uBuntu machine. However, last Wednesday I got notified that there are security updates. And after updating, Tomcat6 is really slow and takes up 101% of memory (1 CPU core out of 4). Is there a way to fix this?
[11:05] <RobinJ1995> aBound, but i saw something interesting in lightdm, which confirms my suspicions
[11:05] <gast2root> howto disable fast user switching in top bar?
[11:05] <RobinJ1995> it doesn't have any sessions
[11:05] <Timecop>  * Starting domain name service... bind9                                 [fail]
[11:05] <aBound> RobinJ1995, I seen these two links: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66370/x11-doesnt-start-after-clean-11-10-install-dell-e6500-nvidia-8gb-ram-i386 and http://askubuntu.com/questions/90915/troubleshooting-x-server-ee-failed-to-load-module-nv-module-does-not-exist
[11:05] <ikonia> Timecop: look in the syslog
[11:06] <Timecop> thater one what i try restart it
[11:06] <RobinJ1995> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11669097 :p
[11:06] <RobinJ1995> its not that xorg fails to start abound
[11:06] <RobinJ1995> otherwise i wouldnt even get lightdm
[11:07] <Timecop> ok ikonia
[11:07] <ruhil> DarkStar1: try Alt+f9
[11:07] <RobinJ1995> haha
[11:07] <RobinJ1995> gnome-session is missing xd
[11:08] <aBound> I see what you mean it isn't appearing the sessions area where you can select various GUIs and window managers.
[11:08] <RobinJ1995> yep
[11:08] <aBound> Yet, you're getting a lightdm screen.
[11:08] <RobinJ1995> which means gnome-session is missing
[11:08] <Parham> Hi everyone. I had Tomcat6 installed on my Ubuntu machine. However, last Wednesday I got notified that there are security updates. And after updating, Tomcat6 is really slow and takes up 101% of memory (1 CPU core out of 4). Is there a way to fix this? Installing Tomcat7 didn't fix anything.
[11:08] <RobinJ1995> yeas... because lightdm isnt a sessiob but a display manager
[11:09] <ikonia> Parham: you're going to have to research that update and see what it changed and how it effects your config/system
[11:09] <aspirintoo> does anybody know how to use make install, it doesn't work?
[11:09] <debian2> hello  can anyone help to add a new ip address on my vps via network/interfaces  ?
[11:09] <aBound> RobinJ1995, What happened when you tried the suggestion from that forum?
[11:09] <Parham> ikonia: Thanks for the answer. how may I research an update?
[11:09] <DarkStar1> ruhil: that minimises it out of view.  They're not supported though
[11:11] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: becauause they can be maintained by anyone with no confideration for package conflicts and compatability (as you are seeing now)
[11:11] <RobinJ1995> theadmin, ... this is an open source community... how does canonical control what they support? :p
[11:11] <RobinJ1995> ikonia, aha, ok :p
[11:11] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: sorry, I'll clarify that for you
[11:12] <RobinJ1995> but isnt that the same with normal repo's? :p
[11:12] <aspirintoo> I've been trying to compile idevicerestore for three days? i downloaded every thing i need but i cant install git sources, any help?
[11:12] <chucknorris> i tried downloading eclipse from the Software Center
[11:12] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: this channel is the official ubuntu channel, and the people who manage the channel have decided the policy is not to support 3rd party repos as they can be maintained by "anyone" and trouble shooting them is a mess
[11:12] <chucknorris> but i get this error "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tomcat6/libservlet2.5-java_6.0.32-5ubuntu1.1_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[11:12] <RobinJ1995> ikonia, troubleshooting is always a mess :p
[11:13] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: no, the repos are massivly tested by a team of people, the PPA's are just put up in what ever state, with whatever testing the PPA owner wants to do
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> chucknorris, apt-get update
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> ikonia, ... everyone can setup a PPA. everyone can setup a debian repo
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> ok so now im stumped...
[11:13] <theadmin> RobinJ1995: Unofficiall repos are just as much unsupported as PPAs, they're the same thing
[11:13] <chucknorris> apt-get update?
[11:13] <RobinJ1995> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:13] <RobinJ1995>  gnome-session : Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu5~ppa1 is to be installed
[11:14] <theadmin> RobinJ1995: ikonia is talking about the official Ubuntu repos you see
[11:14] <RobinJ1995> i've just removed every ppa.... :s
[11:14] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: not everyone can setup an official ubuntu repo - those are the software products that are supported
[11:14] <RobinJ1995> oh well :p
[11:14] <ikonia> RobinJ1995: removing the PPA at this time is probably too late as the conflicting packages will probably already be on your machine
[11:14] <aspirintoo> is there  #terminal or #command-line or something like that in freenode?
[11:15] <LjL> aspirintoo: there is #Bash
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> aspirintoo, #bash?
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> or just ##linux?
[11:15] <oCean> Parham: what is your ubuntu version? Also, have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server? (lots of server specific knowledge there)
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> hooray, :D
[11:15] <RobinJ1995> gnome-session is installed
[11:16] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Open a terminal and type: cat /usr/share/xsessions
[11:16] <aBound> See what it displays.
[11:16] <RobinJ1995> now i just have to remember never to add a 12.04 repo to a 11.10 installation :')
[11:17] <Parham> oCean: Ah, no, I haven't asked on #ubuntu-server. My Ubuntu version is 11.10, my Tomcat version is now 7.0.21.
[11:17] <aBound> RobinJ1995, Oops I meant to type: ls /usr/share/xsessions
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> hehe :p
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> root@ubuntu:/# ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> gnome.desktop  gnome-shell.desktop  ubuntu-2d.desktop  ubuntu.desktop
[11:17] <RobinJ1995> i know
[11:17] <FloodBot1> RobinJ1995: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <diiiisk> Hello - I am installing 11.10, and I have a laptop with 14gb and 250gb partitions, when I click "install with windows" it'll let me slider only the 14gb, giving me about 4gb to use. When I click "do something else" it won't visually show me the disks - this used to be better in 8.04 I think. I see /dev/sdb, then under that sdb1, 9gb/8gb used, 3.8gb free (this is what it allows me to use) then sdb2 104mb, and then sdb3 240gb, unknown.
[11:18] <diiiisk> I want "look at all the free space everywhere and let me use about half of it for ubuntu without screwing it up" option :p
[11:18] <diiiisk> I can mount all of sdb3 to /, but not scale it
[11:18] <RobinJ1995> diiiisk, report it as a bug ;p
[11:18] <RobinJ1995> bye and thanks
[11:19] <william_> asd ç
[11:21] <RobinJ> NOEEES! it overwrote the modifications I made to unity 2d >.<
[11:22] <aBound> Oh boy.
[11:23] <william_> ubuntu.es
[11:24] <william_> hola
[11:24] <william_> q mas
[11:24] <sacarlson> diiiisk: is there anything important left on the partitions that now exist on sdb?
[11:24] <oCean> !es | william_
[11:24] <william_> hola
[11:24] <william_> hay alguien
[11:25] <sacarlson> diiiisk: if not just delete all the partitions and repartion to scale each as you really want
[11:25] <william_> #ubantu.es
[11:26] <neilbags> hi, can someone help me with a win7 dualboot problem? i just bought an asus eee, cloned the win7 partition to a faster/bigger drive, and installed ubuntu. ubuntu works fine, but if i select win7 from grub i just get a blinking cursor
[11:27] <william_> jpña
[11:27] <william_> hola
[11:27] <aBound> RobinJ, You ever tried to install GDM and see if it shows Unity in it's sessions manager.
[11:27] <william_> q mas
[11:27] <william_> alguien
[11:27] <FloodBot1> william_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <oCean> william_: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas)
[11:27] <RobinJ> aBound: ? it works again. only my unity 2d modifications are gone :p
[11:27] <RobinJ> but i'm cooking up something nicer :p
[11:27] <william_> #ubantu.es
[11:27] <oCean> william_: no
[11:27] <oCean> william_: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas)
[11:27] <william_> hi
[11:27] <aBound> RobinJ, Weee...
[11:28] <Timecop> ikonia thanx for help all look like in /etc/bind/named.conf
[11:28] <Timecop> i see if fix it
[11:28] <william_> join #ubantu.es
[11:28] <ikonia> Timecop: that is the config file, yes
[11:28] <oCean> /join #ubuntu-es    <-- william_
[11:29] <Timecop> .conf yep
[11:29] <william_> #ubantu-es
[11:29] <Timecop> i let know if i fix it lol
[11:29] <ikonia> william_: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:30] <william_> hola
[11:30] <william_> q mas
[11:30] <william_> quiero saber
[11:31] <oCean> william_: see PM message
[11:33] <bal> how to install a network pinter ? in which is in window system ?
[11:35] <holms> hello, whereis' the package called "bar". same package as in debian and freebsd..
[11:35] <holms> hello, whereis' the package called "bar". same package as in debian and freebsd..
[11:36] <neilbags> hi, can someone help me with a win7 dualboot problem? i just bought an asus eee, cloned the win7 partition to a faster/bigger drive, and installed ubuntu. ubuntu works fine, but if i select win7 from grub i just get a blinking cursor
[11:37] <spacetime> neilbags: what did you use to clone?
[11:37] <neilbags> spacetime: ntfsclone
[11:38] <mongy> did you clone both win7 partitions?  even the boot partition
[11:38] <neilbags> mongy: no ... i havnt used windows since xp :/ but i have the orig drive connected via usb
[11:39] <neilbags> mongy: does win7 actually have a boot partition?
[11:39] <mongy> neilbags: well, a basic win7 install consists of 1 small boot partition and 1 main partition
[11:40] <neilbags> mongy: i see. can i just clone it to a new partition in some free space? does it need to be primary, or in the same position in the partition table?
[11:40] <neilbags> mongy: and will an update-grub see it and fix things?
[11:40] <mongy> I wouldnt know, I havent used windows in a decade..
[11:41] <neilbags> is this what i am aftter?
[11:41] <neilbags> sdb4                    Primary   EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[11:41] <neilbags> a 16MB partition?
[11:41] <Legoleader> how can i install the latest graphics driver that i downloaded from nVidia
[11:42] <Ben64> Legoleader: you don't
[11:42] <Ben64> Legoleader: use the Hardware Drivers dialog to install drivers, don't use nvidia.com
[11:42] <mongy> try ##windows.  it does sound like the boot partition tho
[11:42] <Legoleader> can u guide me to where I can find that
[11:42] <Legoleader> Ben64
[11:42] <Ben64> what version ubuntu
[11:42] <Legoleader> latest
[11:42] <Legoleader> 64 bit
[11:42] <Ben64> which would be...?
[11:43] <Legoleader> 11.10 i think
[11:43] <Legoleader> i just installed it yesterday
[11:43] <Ben64> lsb_release -sd will tell you
[11:43] <Legoleader> what's that
[11:43] <crizzy> Legoleader: hit super(win button), type 'additio', you should find 'additional drivers' dialog
[11:44] <crizzy> or 'drivers' or somethingl ike that
[11:44] <Ben64> or do that
[11:44] <crizzy> or top right corner (power button) -> system settings > additional drivers
[11:44] <Legoleader> found it
[11:44] <Legoleader> there are 2 drivers in the list
[11:44] <crizzy> then just click nvidia drivers on
[11:44] <crizzy> reboot
[11:44] <crizzy> what are those two
[11:44] <crizzy> post-release updates?
[11:44] <Legoleader> should i install both of them
[11:45] <Ben64> Legoleader: what are their names
[11:45] <crizzy> are both nvidia's?
[11:46] <spacetime> With radeon, I got both options but only one of them successfully installed. Weird stuff.
[11:46] <Legoleader> (version current) + (post-release updates)
[11:46] <Legoleader> both are nVidia
[11:46] <crizzy> take the version current
[11:46] <crizzy> just to be safe
[11:46] <crizzy> it's pretty recent drivers, anyway
[11:47] <spacetime> i got an issue here.. my monitor won't wake up. I can ssh to the machine though. It's alive and breathing. fglrx issue or something else? help?
[11:47] <spacetime> it went to sleep, now it won't wake up when i press any key on my keyboard
[11:48] <ilpollo> spanish chanel please
[11:49] <theadmin> !es | ilpollo
[11:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> amiga
[11:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> oops ignore that plesase ;-p
[11:50] <b0ot> can you do slip with ubuntu?#
[11:51] <Fudge> hi does flash break using firefox 9.0.1 on lucid, same flas on another install with firefox 8.0 plays clips where as the first doesn't.
[11:52] <Legoleader> is it possible to change the resolution of the log in screen in Ubuntu
[11:52] <zzecool> Legoleader: log in or boot screen ?
[11:52] <Legoleader> log in where i have to type my password
[11:53] <zzecool> it shas to be the same with your unity - gnome or whatever you using resolution
[11:53] <zzecool> it has*
[11:54] <Legoleader> well it's not
[11:54] <Legoleader> the screen now is fine, but when i start the computer, the log in screen has another resolution and refresh rate
[11:55] <Adriannom> hi.  trying to get my hp scanjet 5590 to work, currently no scanners show up in simple scan even though it's on and connected.  it worked out of the box before, but i'm not sure what's different now.  xubuntu 11.10
[11:55] <zzecool> what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:55] <Adriannom> anything i can do to diagnose?
[11:56] <zzecool> Legoleader: what is your vga
[11:56] <Legoleader> how can i check the version
[11:56] <nibbler> hi. just updated to 11.10 and now i dont have an "unlock" button in the printer dialog.... how to fix this?
[11:56] <Legoleader> it's nVidia 430gt
[11:57] <Legoleader> and i installed the driver everything is fine now, except the log in screen resolution
[11:57] <zzecool> ok
[11:57] <Ben64> how often do you see the login screen?
[11:58] <Legoleader> everytime i start my computer...
[11:58] <zzecool> Legoleader: for the ubuntu version type on terminal " lsb_release -a"
[11:58] <Ben64> so like once every month?
[11:58] <zzecool> Ben64: stop that
[11:58] <Legoleader> like 3-4 times a day
[11:58] <Ben64> Legoleader: have you rebooted since installing the nvidia drivers
[11:58] <zzecool> Legoleader: dont naswer him
[11:58] <Ben64> zzecool: you stop that
[11:58] <Legoleader> yes Ben64
[11:59] <mongy> Legoleader: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[11:59] <zzecool> Ben64: a problem is a problem and a bug is a bug even it doesnt distract you
[11:59] <Ben64> Legoleader: and its still the same? what resolution is it?
[11:59] <Legoleader> zzecool: what's a terminal, I'm not familiar with Ubuntu at all
[11:59] <Legoleader> I just installed it yesterday for the first time
[11:59] <zzecool> Legoleader: terminal is the command mode
[11:59] <Adriannom> i've tried different usb cables but that doesn't work.  google hasn't helped.  anyone?
[11:59] <Legoleader> I see
[11:59] <zzecool> its a small app that gives you bash access
[12:00] <vicki_> hallo
[12:00] <Legoleader> where can i find it
[12:00] <zzecool> Legoleader: it depents on ubuntu version  do you have the unity interface?
[12:00] <Ben64> Legoleader: hit the windows key, type in "terminal" and it should be there
[12:00] <zzecool> Legoleader: do you have the launcher on the left of your monitor?
[12:01] <Legoleader> I have no idea if i have the unity interface
[12:01] <Legoleader> yes
[12:01] <Legoleader> I have a launcher
[12:01] <zzecool> Legoleader: what is happening if you press the "windows" key on your keyboard?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> Legoleader  this is what unity looks like, is your screen similar? http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[12:02] <Legoleader> it opens the "dash home" when i press the "windows" key
[12:02] <zzecool> Legoleader: how do you search for your application  ?  how do you start irc or firefox ?
[12:02] <zzecool> ok nice
[12:02] <zzecool> this is unity
[12:03] <zzecool> you have to be familiar with same names :)
[12:03] <zzecool> and definitions
[12:03] <zzecool> Legoleader: press windows key type terminal
[12:03] <zzecool> Legoleader: and press enter
[12:03] <zzecool> Legoleader: it is going to open the terminal
[12:03] <Legoleader> done
[12:04] <zzecool> Legoleader: ok type lsb_release -a
[12:04] <Legoleader> nomad@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a
[12:04] <Legoleader> No LSB modules are available.
[12:04] <Legoleader> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:04] <Legoleader> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[12:04] <FloodBot1> Legoleader: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <Legoleader> Release:	11.10
[12:04] <Legoleader> Codename:	oneiric
[12:04] <zzecool> dont paste like this here
[12:04] <ikonia> Legoleader: use a pastebin !
[12:04] <ikonia> !pastebin > Legoleader
[12:05] <Ben64> zzecool: in the future, "lsb_release -sd" works better
[12:08] <BWorld> if I have a directory and execute chmod g+s {dir} and have 755 permissions on that directory then the directories created inside suddenly get write permissions but parent directory is rwsr-sr-x :S
[12:08] <BWorld> could somebody explain that.. ?
[12:08] <zzecool> Legoleader: it seems that youa re facing a bug  , that i found a workaround
[12:09] <Legoleader> please do tell :)
[12:09] <zzecool> Legoleader: but i dont think its wise to try  it as you look like a novice user
[12:10] <escott> BWorld, the setgid bit on a directory means that files inside get created with the same group permissions and ignore umask
[12:10] <zzecool> Legoleader: the workaround includes terminal use scripting etc and things can go wrong  easy
[12:10] <Legoleader> I see
[12:10] <zzecool> Legoleader: just keep making updates as usual and hope for a fix
[12:10] <zzecool> :)
[12:10] <BWorld> hm, what about directories escott ?
[12:10] <Legoleader> kk, thanks :)
[12:10] <zzecool> np
[12:10] <zzecool> :)
[12:10] <BWorld> you expect directories created inside inherit the same permissions as the parent directory (rwsr-sr-x)
[12:11] <escott> BWorld, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[12:13] <zzecool> Legoleader: one question are you using dual monitors?
[12:14] <BWorld> thanks escott , when I read the section about "setuid and setgid on directories" I cannot find anything about affecting permissions , it doesn't say anywhere that when inheriting group/user from parent directory that it will add write permissions to the created directory...
[12:14] <BWorld> wich is the case at the moment
[12:15] <BWorld> escott, I mean, creating a directory gives the assigns the correct uid and gid but it 'adds' write permissions for the group wich isn't assigned in the parent directory :S
[12:15] <BWorld> - gives the
[12:16] <Ben64> but you have it suid
[12:16] <BWorld> yes, sticky user and sticky group
[12:16] <BWorld> user has rws permissions, group has r-s permissions and other have r-x permissions
[12:17] <BWorld> user is me, group is www-data
[12:17] <BWorld> www-data should never have write permissions unless explicit set for some subdirectory
[12:17] <escott> BWorld, folders created inside a setgid have to also have setgid set otherwise its not recursive and it breaks with the first subdirectory
[12:17] <Legoleader> zzecool: no, i'm using a crt 19" monitor
[12:17] <Ben64> what are you doing that you need suid on things?
[12:18] <BWorld> setting up my local development environment
[12:18] <zzecool> Legoleader:  ok nothing then
[12:18] <zzecool> :)
[12:18] <BWorld> I want to be owner of everything and www-data group for everything
[12:18] <BWorld> automatically set
[12:18] <BWorld> so I thought I could use sticky bits
[12:19] <Ben64> you should look into ACL
[12:19] <BWorld> this way apache allways have read access and in some log folder for example I would give www-data write permissions so it can write to it's log
[12:19] <BWorld> but now it is always getting write permissions wich is not defined ANYWHERE
[12:19] <BWorld> :S
[12:19] <BWorld> confused...
[12:19] <BWorld> this is the result of mkdir /data/test:
[12:19] <BWorld> drwsr-sr-x  4 cblokland www-data  4096 2012-02-20 13:03 .
[12:19] <BWorld> drwxr-xr-x 26 root      root      4096 2012-02-20 12:57 ..
[12:19] <BWorld> drwxrwxr-x  2 cblokland cblokland 4096 2012-02-20 13:01 test
[12:19] <FloodBot1> BWorld: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <BWorld> sorry , will do that ;)
[12:20] <Ben64> BWorld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#ACL_.28Access_Control_List.29
[12:21] <geirha> BWorld: The initial permissions of created files are determined by umask.
[12:34] <absdf> hi, weird question: how do I join the #java channel? :O
[12:34] <absdf> it says I need to be invited for
[12:34] <absdf> #java and "identified with services" or something for ##java.
[12:35] <Pici> !register | absdf
[12:36] <absdf> that's silly that I have to register a throwaway nick just to ask a single question.
[12:36] <absdf> but ok.
[12:38] <p1l0t> So my father ordered this USB floppy drive.. It didn't come with any drivers so I am assuming it is plug and play. I plugged it in and nothing obvious happened. I catted syslog and got this: http://pastebin.com/qR4tFeSf So it did try its but with errors. And different errors each time I plugged it in..
[12:39] <p1l0t> absdf: You'll be back ;)
[12:40] <ankit__> i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
[12:40] <ankitb> all
[12:40] <bazhang> ankitb, was there a question in there?
[12:41] <Ben64> p1l0t: looks like it works-ish
[12:41] <ankitb> yaaa
[12:45] <p1l0t> Ben64: Yeah maybe..
[12:46] <p1l0t> Ben64: I guess I'll try mounting it
[12:47] <__Alex_> If i want to make sure there is no way of recovering deleted files from my disc, i fill the free space with random data and then delete? (cat /dev/urandom>file.bin;rm file.bin)
[12:49] <genkbejo> test
[12:49] <Abhijit> fail
[12:50] <Ben64> __Alex_: /dev/zero will work faster
[12:52] <timonah> hi
[12:52] <countley> hi
[12:52] <p1l0t> Ben64: Yeah mounts just fine :)
[12:52] <geirha> __Alex_: There's shred(1)
[12:53] <timonah> male or female
[12:58] <snozek> in default snmpd.conf there is something like this: extend    test1   /bin/echo  Hello, world!
[12:58] <snozek> how can i snmpget/walk this?
[12:58] <escott> __Alex_, that doesn't work with all filesystems because it has to be the exact same location on the disk. but there are tools to do this see shred
[12:59] <Ben64> escott: i think he was talking about filling the whole drive with that file
[12:59] <gkasi> Need help with Grub2 Rescue prompt.  Uumm ok. I remember upgrading to grub2 a while ago though.
[13:02] <kippi> I am not sure where the best place to ask this question is... I want to be able to span my toolbar across two screens. Currently I have the same information on both screens as the toolbar is mirrored
[13:02] <gkasi> kippi, are you using gnome?
[13:02] <kippi> unity
[13:03] <gkasi> kippi, sorry man, I've never used unity. Lemme see if I can find the info for you.
[13:03] <escott> gkasi, the syntax you are using (hd0,1) is grub1 syntax. for grub 2 one generally uses (hd0,msdos1) or (hd0,gpt1) depending upon the partition table.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> kippi  "Xubuntu 12.04 is the only ubuntu based distro that handles dual screens well. But you will have to script a little to get it working permanently."
[13:05] <kippi> dual screens are working fine, just the tool bar is a pain
[13:05] <gkasi> escott, I dont have msdos or windows on the box. It is a pure ubuntu experience. I get the following when I 'ls'. (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0, msdos2) (hd0, msdos1)
[13:07] <escott> gkasi, msdos just means you have an msdos partition table (normal mbr partition table) as opposed to a gpt table
[13:08] <escott> gkasi, try set root='(hd0,msdos#)'
[13:08] <gkasi> escott, thanks for that. But I m not familiar with gpt table. Because I dont have that, can you advise which of the three msdos1, 2, 3 I need as a combo to boot up?
[13:08] <escott> gkasi, i dont know. probably msdos1
[13:09] <gkasi> ok. I'll try and report back.
[13:14] <gkasi> escott, tried all combo (msdos1, 2 and 3) with set prefix=(hd0,msdos#)/boot/grub and set root=.. and insmod (hd0,msdos#)/boot/grub/linux.mod. For msdos3 I get file not found. Other combos I get unknown filesystem
[13:15] <escott> gkasi, are you in a livecd right now?
[13:15] <gkasi> no livecd that I burnt a while ago doesnt work :( I m on another ubuntu box for irc.
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> gkasi  try using a thumbdrive instead
[13:16] <gkasi> kippi, I've tried googling, hoping you might've missed some link, but no luck mate.
[13:17] <escott> gkasi, its hard to say what is wrong without knowing what your layout is
[13:17] <gkasi> MonkeyDust, old box (2003 model) and bios doesnt boot off USB :(
[13:17] <escott> gkasi, but you are assuming you don't have a /boot partition (by your use of /boot/grub)
[13:18] <gkasi> escott, I used to have a boot partition till this morning when I decided to restart the box. Since the restart I'm stuck with this error. Whilst I dont know what those commands mean, I m following http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2011/09/09/how-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt-without-live-cd-for-grub2/
[13:19] <tehowe> How stable is a Beta 1 expected to be - are we talking 'non-LTS release stable', or not really usable yet?
[13:19] <OerHeks> tehowe, for 12.04 questions & support, ask in #Ubuntu+1
[13:20] <escott> gkasi, there are two main reasons why you would get a sudden boot failure. (a) a corrupted partition in which case you need a livecd to fsck the filesystem (b) a change to your partition tables which would not happen without your knowing about it
[13:20] <tehowe> Right
[13:21] <gkasi> escott, yeah corrupted partition seems like a candidate. I m downloading the Ubuntu 10.10 iso at the moment. Could you tell me the fsck command to fix the partition?
[13:21] <escott> gkasi, sudo fsck /dev/sda#
[13:22] <gkasi> copy that. thanks escott . lemme see if i can rescue now
[13:23] <gkasi> escott, just found another disk labelled ubuntu installation. I m not sure what version and if the disk works. But I m going to try it in just now
[13:24] <gr33n7007h> init 1
[13:24] <gr33n7007h> umount
[13:24] <jodiejoe> Hello everybody, I've a big problem (at least too me it is big)... on my Thinkpad x121e I installed Win7 (64) and afterwards Ubuntu 11.10 with the standard option to install it beside Win7. After installing and rebooting, Win7 directly starts without showing me a Grub2 menu. I tried rescatux and super tux disc but nothing could me bring the bootloader Grub2. It would be very nice if you could help me with this issue! Thanks....
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> jodiejoe  try pressing ctrl while booting
[13:26] <escott> jodiejoe, is this an efi system?
[13:26] <Abhijit> jodiejoe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:26] <jodiejoe> ok I will try to press ctrl
[13:27] <jodiejoe> yes I think it is an efi system
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> jodiejoe  may be shift instead of ctrl, try both
[13:29] <sacarlson> what does #ubuntu-meta represent?
[13:29] <ikonia> sacarlson: read the topic in there
[13:29] <escott> jodiejoe, there is a grub-efi package that you might try installing
[13:29] <sacarlson> ikonia: sorry wrong channel
[13:30] <jodiejoe> neither ctrl/shift work...
[13:33] <Abhijit> jodiejoe, try my link
[13:33] <ayaka> when alisa ls='ls -l', i type ls -a, is it same to ls -la ？
[13:33] <escott> ayaka, its the same as ls -l -a
[13:33] <sacarlson> jodiejoe: best method I know if you don't play realtime games in windows in run it in virtualbox in ubuntu
[13:34] <ayaka> escott thank you
[13:34] <jodiejoe> ok I will try the method provided on the link, thank you
[13:35] <gkasi> escott, thanks for your help so far. My *other* live cd is a no go as well. Hafta wait an hour or so for the 10.10 iso to download and try again. Thanks anyway!
[13:35] <ankitb> i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
[13:35] <ankitb> indistylo, i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
[13:36] <gr33n7007h> at+csq
[13:36] <ankitb> gr33n7007h, it doesn't respond real time ......
[13:40] <sacarlson> ankitb: cellular as in celular telephone?  did you checkout USRP ?
[13:42] <Zerpex> Hi everyone, I have /var/www set to be owned by www-data, because wordpress wants to execute as that user.. but how do I make, so all files and folders that is within' /var/www always will be 775 for the group called www-data, and how do I add user1 and user2 to that group?
[13:42] <sln45> lxde and a bunch of openbox-related entries are still in my login after removing lxde. How do I fix this?
[13:43] <ankitb> gr33n7007h, it doesn't respond real time ......
[13:44] <gr33n7007h> ankitb, are you using openBSD ????
[13:46] <sln45> Does anybody at least know where I could look on issues with the login list of environments?
[13:46]  * quiescens dies.
[13:47] <ankitb> gr33n7007h, no i am using ubuntu 10.04.....
[13:48] <Abhijit> ankitb, what you were looking?
[13:49] <sacarlson> Zerpex:  sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www ; worry about security later
[13:50] <gr33n7007h> ankitb, you looking for rssi
[13:50] <Zerpex> sacarlson: it's a development server, which will be private running on a network
[13:50] <Abhijit> i mean what was your original question ankitb
[13:51] <ankitb> Abhijit, I am looking for RSSI value in real time when Internet is connected through that device ....
[13:51] <sln45> I guess I'll look elsewhere.
[13:51] <sln45> Buy guys
[13:51] <sacarlson> Zerpex: so how does that make it any different?  if needed chown -R www-data:www-data
[13:51] <sln45> *Bye
[13:52] <Zerpex> but sacarlson, I can change permissions like that yes.. but when I create a new file - I don't have 775 permissions of those files anymore, and that is the thing I want to be 'default' set for the /var/www folder
[13:52] <Abhijit> ankitb, on which port/device?
[13:53] <apporc> Can i install kvm in kvm's client host?
[13:53] <Abhijit> sorry need to go urently. someone on door. by ankitb
[13:54] <sacarlson> Zerpex: ok I think I get it.  seems like an application problem.  if the file doesn't exist yet and your app creates it I'm not sure you have to power to force it to something else
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> ankitb  mayhaps this is a useful link http://study.prl85.com/
[13:54] <sacarlson> Zerpex: I guess you could have a demon run that auto changes it at some periodic period
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> ankitb  ignore that link, it's for android
[13:54] <Zerpex> sacarlson: when running php as DSO, normally the 'customers' shouldn't use the chown and chmod on the files each time
[13:55] <apporc> Can i install kvm in kvm's client host? Who knows that, thanks.
[13:56] <sacarlson> Zerpex: I've had php apps that could change chmod settings so I know it can, so it's up to your app
[13:56] <escott> apporc, i think so
[13:56] <dado_> ciao
[13:57] <apporc> escott: you think kvm can virtualize one CPU with vmx?
[13:57] <sacarlson> Zerpex: I assume you want it to have privlige but giving it also provides the opertunity  for php to change it
[13:57] <Zerpex> sacarlson: I know.. it's pretty easy in php, but shouldn't be needed to create a PHP script that changes the permissions of the folders - there should be a default group-ownershio of the folders to www-data
[13:58] <sacarlson> Zerpex: yes anything php creates will be owned by www-data as set by priv in appache
[13:58] <escott> apporc, im not sure what you mean by virtualize one cpu. but i believe that recursive kvm does work (although its more of a technology demo than an intended use)
[13:58] <Guest59167> hello
[13:59] <Guest59167> !list
[13:59] <Zerpex> sacarlson: not the files php creates.. let's say I log into ftp on the server, and rightclick, and choose 'new file' then the group should by default be set to www-data
[13:59] <sacarlson> Zerpex: you have more than apache set to access the same file set?
[13:59] <apporc> escott: sorry, not virtualize, should be "virtual out "
[13:59] <ankitb> abhijit, /dev/ttyACM0
[13:59] <Guest59167> sorry
[14:00] <Zerpex> sacarlson: nevermind, the commands I was looking for was chgrp -R www-data /var/www and chmod g+s /var/www
[14:00] <sacarlson> Zerpex: so you have an ftp server runing on the same directory under a different user?
[14:01] <sacarlson> Zerpex: sorry never used chgrp
[14:01] <apporc> escott: because kvm need it's host machine has one CPU with virtualization technology, vmx for intel ,e.g. I don't know whether kvm can virtual out one CPU with vitualiation technology
[14:01] <Zerpex> sacarlson: I have a ftp access to /var/www indeed
[14:01] <|newbie|> help me with sound..i have a sony vaio laptop e vpceb45fg..when i installed ubuntu it didnt have sound i added some lines to the grub and i got it back..but when i inserted headphones it is gone again
[14:02] <apporc> escott: if we want to install kvm on one kvm's client host ,this client must have one CPU with virtulization technology.
[14:02] <sacarlson> Zerpex: ok see I didn't know that part but I might have just change ftp user to www-data but that's only because I'm ignorant
[14:03] <Zerpex> sacarlson: indeed, but we're 10 developers, with different access
[14:03] <escott> apporc, and yes i believe that they have emulated that, but i think it is more of a demo than an intended tool
[14:03] <archo43> hiy
[14:03] <apporc> escott: thanks.
[14:03] <sacarlson> Zerpex: well I'm only glad you found a solution even with my added confusion
[14:03] <apporc> escott: thank you .
[14:04] <Zerpex> sacarlson: no worries :P
[14:04] <me-1> hii...is it possible to triple boot , mac os x , windows 7 and ubuntu on a macbook pro from 2010
[14:04] <ikonia> me-1: bootcamp
[14:04] <sacarlson> Zerpex: oh and my other simple solution would have been chmod -R 777 /var/www  if it's just local who cares
[14:05] <LL2|Android> me-1: or use a VM program
[14:05] <LL2|Android> Like VirtualBox, or VMware
[14:05] <mattgman> so i did some customizing yesterday, and i can't seem to get my desktop icons back.  they are all selected in my "Desktop" under Menu>Settings>Desktop, but they aren't showing.  I'm using XFCE4.  Any help would be great!  I can get other icons to show, just not the defaults.
[14:06] <dolf> #python
[14:06] <|newbie|> somebody help me with sound..my speakers not working..but can hear sound using headphones
[14:06] <me-1> ikonia, LL2|Android  I will like to use bootcamp . It will be really good thing to get best of 3 worls no more Linux vs os x vs windows . how can I do that..?
[14:06] <Zerpex> sacarlson: xD
[14:07] <LL2|Android> Well, bootcamp basically allows you to boot into another OS INSTEAD of Mac OS X
[14:07] <LL2|Android> Its not a VM program
[14:07] <me-1> LL2|Android,  I am not lloking for virtulization either
[14:08] <LL2|Android> Ok
[14:09] <me-1> LL2|Android,  thank you for the info
[14:09] <liberal> LL2|Android: actually, you can use your bootcamp partition as the drive for a virtual machine. so you can have osx and the bootcamp drive booted simultaneously
[14:09] <LL2|Android> Yeah
[14:10] <LL2|Android> But bootcamp itself isnt a VM program
[14:10] <LL2|Android>  thats what I meant
[14:10] <LL2|Android> Also, yay virtualbox allows for vmdk files
[14:10] <sacarlson> |newbie|: if it works on headphones maybe plug the speakers into that jack?
[14:10] <escott> apporc, http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/nested-kvm-guests/
[14:10] <LL2|Android> So I can use it in tandem with VMware
[14:11] <sacarlson> |newbie|: if it's the same jack with headphones as speakers then maybe the problem is in the speaker amp?
[14:12] <liberal> ok. just wanted to clarify what you said.
[14:12] <LL2|Android> Ok
[14:13] <LL2|Android> Hey reCAPTCHA
[14:13] <reCAPTCHA> Hi LL2|Android
[14:13] <LL2|Android> :D
[14:14] <reCAPTCHA> So, I am trying to get my Creative Labs SB1040 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Sound Card working under Ubuntu... no dice.
[14:14] <afsal> how to create alternate cd
[14:15] <reCAPTCHA> I can't seem to find drivers for it.
[14:15] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: wow I thought all sound blaster stuf should work
[14:15] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: From what I understand Creative is not well known for their Linux support.
[14:16] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: pastebin the sudo lspci  might find out if we can find out if there are drivers
[14:16] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: http://www.pasteall.org/29342
[14:17] <afsal> Please hlp me. how to create alternate installation cd?
[14:17] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: before you even try looking for drivers you might try moving it to another slot in your computer if posible as sometimes there are irc conflicts
[14:17] <vlt> Hello. I want to playback a video file (or DVD) on an Ubuntu machine and want the video to be visible at the same time on another Ubuntu machine in the local network. What do I need to do?
[14:17] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: the machines full-up unfortunately.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> afsal  you mean modify an existing CD?
[14:18] <afsal> MonkeyDust: I want create from scratch.
[14:18] <LL2|Android> vlt: have you tried VNC?
[14:18] <dean> can someone help me compile this? http://www.garyshood.com/rsclient_linux/  I've not a clue what I'm doing lol
[14:19] <vlt> LL2|Android: The VNC performance isn't good enough.
[14:19] <LL2|Android> ah ok
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> afsal  Remastersys comes to my mind
[14:19] <LL2|Android> I forget if Skype for linux has screen sharing support
[14:19] <|newbie|> how to check whether my sound card is working
[14:19] <LL2|Android> I don't think it does
[14:19] <afsal> MonkeyDust: How use it??
[14:19] <vlt> LL2|Android: I rather thought of something involving VLC ...
[14:20] <LL2|Android> Ah
[14:20] <|newbie|> how to check whether my sound card is on or not
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> afsal  start here http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/remastersys.html
[14:21] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I see you have at least 2 sound cards and I see there is support for that blaster device so if not needed you could try disable the internal device you have in bios
[14:21] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: gah... can I just blacklist it?
[14:21] <LL2|Android> Damnit VirtualBox!
[14:21] <vlt> Either could the second machine read a stream from the first one's VLC player or both VLC players read from the same video file. But how to sync both players then?
[14:22] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: I'm not sure that would help if the problem is irc conflict
[14:22] <LL2|Android> Why can't you run like VMware and just allocate the drive file space as needed, up to the cap set?!
[14:22] <afsal> MonkeyDust: Ok, thnks Now i'm going to try...
[14:22] <LL2|Android> D:
[14:22] <afsal> exit
[14:22] <reCAPTCHA> sacarlson: okay, well, either way none of the audio outputs seem to work...
[14:23] <sacarlson> reCAPTCHA: oh that's another sign of conflic if the other worked before