[09:39] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: thunar 4.15.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-thunar-4-15-1-released-tp59260.html (by Alexander Schwinn-2)
[23:43] <lnsantana> Hi
[23:44] <lnsantana> Good night, can someone help me to clarify some doubts about the customization of the Xubuntu install?


[02:10] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Central Italy ? what ?
[02:10] <OerHeks> earthquake
[02:11] <OerHeks> pope fell out of bed
[02:11] <OerHeks> http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
[02:17] <Bashing-om> And ratteled the dishes :) .
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Outa here guys , yall have fun without me - 'til I return .
[03:45] <tayto> exit
[06:33] <ducasse> morning all
[06:33] <daftykins> heya \o how goes it?
[06:34] <ducasse> hi daftykins! good, thanks - how are you doing?
[06:34] <daftykins> yeah not too bad ta :) sadly got a user claiming i'm being sexist in a help channel though - sigh :(
[06:35] <daftykins> think it's one where the questions i'm asking aren't understood, so it's clearly my fault ;)
[06:35] <ducasse> urgh, i got jumped on by a troll yesterday. all of a sudden he started sending me these really nasty pm's.
[06:36] <daftykins> ah those are nasty
[06:36] <daftykins> or the ones that follow for weeks, blech
[06:36] <daftykins> the "fans" as i think of them ;)
[06:36] <ducasse> :)
[06:37] <ducasse> how's the soldering going?
[06:37] <daftykins> hehe still not done any more!
[06:37] <daftykins> kit is sat there patiently awaiting it though
[06:37] <ducasse> but you fixed the caps?
[06:37] <daftykins> sure did, though that board, CPU, RAM and heatsink are just sat with no case to go in as-is
[06:38] <daftykins> it was more just a "what the hell?" kind of job
[06:38] <ducasse> hehe - done plenty of those myself :)
[06:39] <ducasse> i think i've found a small bug in the lxc tools, btw
[06:40] <ducasse> inside one of my containers it reports 350mb used, while lxc-info says >20gb
[06:40] <daftykins> tiny bug! :D
[06:40] <ducasse> i asked in #ubuntu-server, but got no response
[06:40] <daftykins> crikey that's one memory leak alright
[06:40] <daftykins> if real
[06:41] <ducasse> the host clearly is not using >20gb, so i'm thinking it may just be something in the code that keeps track of used mem
[06:42] <daftykins> ah reet
[06:42] <ducasse> i'm wondering whether to upgrade lxc to the version in proposed and test again.
[06:43] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt! with backed up configs anywho :)
[06:43]  * ducasse has btrfs snapshots :)
[06:43] <daftykins> o: look at you
[06:43] <ducasse> this is my 'experimentation' box
[06:44] <daftykins> i'm trying to buy this Dell Outlet laptop for a client since i spotted it last night but their site is broken for that one exact item right now XD
[06:44] <daftykins> phones only open in 75 mins
[06:45] <ducasse> what kind of laptop - xps?
[06:45] <daftykins> yep XPS13 9350, i5 model same as mine for £650 - the site also has a 10% off coupon right now
[06:46] <daftykins> i took it to a client and showed him it, he held it and was sold immediately XD
[06:46] <ducasse> :)
[06:46] <ducasse> good deal, too.
[06:47] <daftykins> Outlet machines are pretty ace, they're £999 normally i think for this spec
[06:47] <ducasse> i'd love one of those, my laptop is an old hp. bit of a wreck, but it works.
[06:47] <daftykins> probably a new model soon for the intel kaby lake chips that are sampling now
[06:47] <daftykins> :D
[06:48] <daftykins> a mate said he'd buy my sandybridge i5 asus, but he hasn't been to get it yet / paid me
[06:48] <ducasse> tried to put in an ssd, but it refused to recognize it because of the blacklist.
[06:48] <daftykins> oh yeah i remember you said, mindblowing - if they're anything like the IBM/Lenovo ones there are folks out there that write modified BIOSs
[06:49] <ducasse> yes, i've got an image that supposedly works, but i daren't try it until i've got a backup machine
[06:50] <daftykins> *nod*
[06:50] <daftykins> still blown away by the old graphics card of mine that made 3 different motherboards think their BIOSs had been corrupted
[06:51] <ducasse> *boggles*
[06:51] <ducasse> that's a new one on me.
[06:51] <daftykins> but only if you unplugged the PSU...
[06:51] <daftykins> (CMOS batteries were fine)
[06:51] <daftykins> also i think that card would still work fine in my skylake desktop
[06:52] <daftykins> oh, are you much of a gamer? the new Deus Ex unlocked yesterday :)
[06:52] <ducasse> no, i don't game much these days :) i stopped about a decade ago :)
[06:52] <daftykins> do you know the series?
[06:53] <ducasse> yes, but the only thing i play is civ5.
[06:53] <daftykins> :D
[06:54] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/js2uyxhshcacs5m/AABH0SHSl18qLZDDz8-rkdz4a?dl=0
[06:54] <daftykins> i just took a few snaps was all
[06:55] <ducasse> that's seriously pretty...
[06:55] <ducasse> the light in the 2nd snap...
[06:56] <daftykins> it already drops down to 45fps in places despite the new monster hardware!
[06:56] <ducasse> didn't you have a 1070?
[06:56] <daftykins> yep
[06:56] <ducasse> wow
[06:56] <daftykins> i put everything on max @ 1920x1200 first, it was down to 12fps
[06:56] <daftykins> disabled MSAA (12fps was it on 8x) then it became 45+
[06:57] <ducasse> what the hell kind of hardware do they want you to have?
[06:57] <daftykins> hehe
[06:57] <daftykins> only future folks need apply
[06:57] <ducasse> "runs best on cray clusters"
[06:58] <daftykins> you can literally say "wow man that PC is cray"
[06:58] <ducasse> :)
[06:59] <ducasse> i worked for sun norway at one point, we played quake on a sunfire 10000 :)
[06:59] <ducasse> that was fun :)
[06:59] <daftykins> ooooh you know for fun earlier i tried connecting into my old account at Uni, which i graduated in 2008... still worked O_O
[07:00] <daftykins> they used to be sun workstations with solaris on, but it appears they've virtualised that one now and it seemed to be RHEL
[07:00] <ducasse> we had a machine at sun that was for techs to experiment on, that is still running.
[07:01] <ducasse> i think one of them adopted it.
[07:01] <daftykins> hahaha
[07:01] <daftykins> sun guy's son
[07:01] <ducasse> it was an e450 until 6 months ago, now it's rhel.
[07:02] <daftykins> http://toastytech.com/guis/solcdegeneral.png
[07:02] <daftykins> still cringe when i see solaris
[07:03] <ducasse> cde wasn't as bad as openwindows, though
[07:04] <ducasse> one thing i miss is my old nextstation - that was a cool machine
[07:04] <daftykins> hmm skinny looking things
[07:05] <ducasse> the gui was just so nice compared to other unix guis
[07:06] <ducasse> what games do you play other than deus ex?
[07:06] <daftykins> still going on Hitman right now
[07:06] <daftykins> put over 36 hours into that one :D
[07:06] <ducasse> is that the same series that i played 15+ years ago?
[07:06] <daftykins> yep!
[07:07] <ducasse> cool :)
[07:07] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rmf79i0o8lv9p0t/AACBdJ5gYlc6vBfvzr1w4GQNa?dl=0
[07:08] <daftykins> looks like it might've been sunblade 100's we had in this one lab at uni
[07:08] <daftykins> cringeworthily slow, i sat on the department SSH gateway once XD a network simulation took 3x longer than a machine that wasn't the gateway
[07:09] <daftykins> can only imagine the poor people remoting in at the time must've had one character per minute display...
[07:09] <ducasse> :)
[07:09] <ducasse> seen this? https://www.humblebundle.com/books/joy-of-coding-book-bundle
[07:16] <daftykins> ooh my
[07:16] <daftykins> not sure how i feel about ebooks though
[07:17] <daftykins> i've not learnt anything technical from a book before o0
[07:17] <ducasse> i like paper better, but bought these yesterday. wanted a couple of them, and the price is ok.
[07:18] <ducasse> always wanted to learn lisp :)
[07:18] <daftykins> someone linked to some microsoft guy who'd made a huge list of free ones the other day, so i wget them but a lot are rubbish
[07:18] <daftykins> like single page inserts for 'keyboard shortcuts in $MS_Office_application version #'
[07:19] <ducasse> not very useful, that...
[07:19] <daftykins> hmm lets see i filtered as many as i could down to each product but ended up only with 19 for windows 10
[07:20] <daftykins> and a few of those are two copies in different formats
[07:20] <daftykins> c'moooon 40 mins 'til phone lines open :P
[07:21] <ducasse> hehe, does your client need that machine so badly? :)
[07:21] <ducasse> limited number of them?
[07:21] <daftykins> well i leave the island on the 8th
[07:22] <daftykins> not sure it'll even come in time in fact, but yeah the stock goes quite quickly on the outlet
[07:22] <daftykins> but i also have other things to do which also only open at 9am
[07:23] <ducasse> ic. they should be able to deliver before then, shouldn't they?
[07:24] <daftykins> they tend to dispatch pretty slowly, not sure
[07:26] <ducasse> did you see the pcworld article on amd zen?
[07:27] <ducasse> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3109327/hardware/let-the-cpu-wars-begin-amd-shows-its-zen-cpu-can-compete-with-intels-best.html
[07:27] <daftykins> i saw the heavily biased 'benchmark' yeah :)
[07:27] <ducasse> i still have hopes, though. can't hurt if amd gets it's act together.
[07:28] <daftykins> oh it'd be ace if they got back in the game yeah
[07:29] <Ben64> aw yiss
[07:29] <daftykins> just i saw what their claims are like with their latest graphics card release... and was not impressed
[07:29] <Ben64> 32 core cpu :Q_
[07:29] <daftykins> well as the old saying goes, 32 x 0 is not a lot
[07:29] <daftykins> ;)
[07:30] <Ben64> i like amd
[07:30] <Ben64> great multithreaded performance
[07:30] <daftykins> i was under the impression even that hasn't compared for some time
[07:31] <ducasse> i used to love amd, but i wouldn't buy one today..
[07:31] <Ben64> usually have two games running 24/7 in wine, firefox with a ton of tabs, chrome with a ton of tabs, mythtv, transcoding, blah blah
[07:31] <daftykins> oh please browsers don't count
[07:31] <daftykins> :P
[07:31] <Ben64> they do the way i use em
[07:32] <Ben64> ben64    32440 40.0 11.2 3431624 1843612 ?     Sl   Aug18 3407:03 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[07:32] <daftykins> i have a client who keeps a good 8+ Firefox windows open with 30 tabs in each :( lots of repetition, too
[07:33] <ducasse> i've just cleaned up my browser, down to two windows with <10 tabs each. i'm so proud :)
[07:33] <daftykins> he reads the Financial Times website a lot, they used to have this flash advert that would crash it multiple times daily O_O
[07:33] <daftykins> (i didn't have an adblocker on his machine because, being a senior user it was easier not to make things non-standard in the past)
[07:34] <daftykins> haha
[07:34] <ducasse> i have a _serious_ attention span problem, alright? ;)
[07:35] <daftykins> :D whenever i've left tabs open overnight i never feel in the mood come the morning XD
[07:35] <ducasse> half of my tabs tend to be github projects that look 'interesting' :)
[07:35] <daftykins> oooh
[07:37] <daftykins> Ben64: i feel like you would benefit from more than one box ;)
[07:37] <daftykins> i haven't bought AMD for anyone since the Athlon64 :(
[07:37] <Ben64> model name	: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
[07:37] <Ben64> works great for me
[07:37] <Ben64> looking forward to zen
[07:38] <daftykins> you can't say that when you haven't had everything since, though
[07:38] <Ben64> need to get a new case too
[07:38] <daftykins> sure it works, else you'd have replaced it ;)
[07:38] <Ben64> i can say what it works great for me
[07:38] <daftykins> only with a tonne of caveats
[07:39] <daftykins> like "excluding everything that has been released since which outperforms it..."
[07:39] <Ben64> more performance for what
[07:39] <Ben64> i'm never waiting on anything
[07:40] <daftykins> i find this a strange thing to challenge, so i'm going to leave this one alone, sorry
[07:40] <Ben64> cool me too
[07:41] <daftykins> 20 mins gogogo!
[07:41] <Ben64> 20 mins..?
[07:41] <daftykins> waiting for 9am for places i need to call to open
[07:42] <Ben64> oh far away places
[07:42] <daftykins> nah same timezone
[07:42] <Ben64> far away from me
[07:42] <Ben64> 18 mins till 1am
[07:42] <daftykins> :D
[07:42] <daftykins> yep BST here
[07:43] <Ben64> just looks like beastmaster to me
[07:43] <daftykins> o0
[07:43] <Ben64> from FFXI
[07:43] <daftykins> never played any of the franchise
[07:43] <Ben64> jobs are abbreviated with 3 letters, BST is beastmaster
[07:43] <Ben64> ffxi is the online one
[07:43] <ducasse> guessing that's 'british standard time' or something, not 'bullshit time'?
[07:43] <daftykins> ducasse: ;) indeed
[07:44] <Ben64> now i gotta figure out how to save/load stuff in unity3d
[07:44] <Ben64> bleh
[07:44] <daftykins> ducasse: oh that's why i'm rushing, the 10% coupon expires at the end of the month
[07:45] <ducasse> aaah, i see! that's a good reason.
[07:45] <ducasse> i'm on my last week of 250mbps, got it for free over the summer.
[07:45] <daftykins> i didn't sleep so i'm slipping a bit :>
[07:45] <daftykins> d'aww
[07:45] <daftykins> what'll you drop to?
[07:45] <ducasse> 150
[07:46] <daftykins> XD
[07:46] <ducasse> so i'm not crushed or anything.
[07:46] <daftykins> yeah that's definitely not a kick in the teeth
[07:46] <ducasse> just can't justify paying for 250.
[07:47] <daftykins> i'd love more upload than the 5Mb i have
[07:47] <ducasse> i have 20 now, drops to 15. it'd be nice with more.
[07:48] <daftykins> mmm, we always get these people in #kodi that want to play video from their home servers on phones or tablets when out and about - naturally most immediately fall at the upload requirement - transcoded or not
[07:49] <daftykins> users are crazy (:
[07:49] <ducasse> they have weird expectations some times.
[07:53] <ducasse> some guy spamming his new github toy in #ubuntu...
[07:53] <daftykins> smells off topic to me ;)
[07:55] <ducasse> i can't be bothered to confront him, he'll go away soon enough. have you seen the 'antipsychiatry' spammer?
[07:55] <ducasse> that guy is seriously off his meds. 'mossad is remotely monitoring my brain!'
[07:56] <daftykins> lol
[07:56] <daftykins> nope sounds like a common freenode user though ;)
[07:58] <ducasse> less than 12 minutes to go, daftykins :)
[07:58] <daftykins> less than 2!
[07:59] <ducasse> sorry, misread clock :)
[07:59] <daftykins> though you might be more accurate as to when someone would pick up!
[07:59] <ducasse> that might be true.
[08:00] <daftykins> bit puzzled at the opening hours when they're usually in the east anyway...
[08:19] <daftykins> huzzah \o/
[08:19] <daftykins> mission one complete
[08:21] <ducasse> laptop ordered?
[08:21] <daftykins> yep, amusingly the guy tried the site himself and saw the error :D
[08:21] <daftykins> they don't believe me!
[08:22] <ducasse> not even after trying it?
[08:22] <daftykins> only after :> said he reported it to their website team
[08:24] <ducasse> well, job done - even _their_ job :)
[08:24] <daftykins> :D
[08:24] <daftykins> i tried to report a flaw with ebay's UK website a while back, got through 5 different support people but eventually just got blanked
[08:24] <daftykins> utterly useless :)
[08:25] <ducasse> even worse if you try to report security problems...
[08:26] <daftykins> i can sympathise with why those security researchers sometimes have to just publish their findings, they probably try to do the right thing and get the kind of experience i had
[08:27] <ducasse> yes, some even get reported to authorities.
[08:28] <daftykins> figures!
[08:29] <ducasse> i read an article about a guy that found a vuln in the in-flight systems on a plane, the fbi was waiting when they landed.
[08:31] <Ben64> i always poke around in the in flight wifi when i'm bored on a plane
[08:38] <ducasse> you might end up with steel bracelets if you do that too much :)
[08:39] <daftykins> :D
[08:53] <ducasse> another happy customer in #ubuntu, this one even bowed :)
[08:55] <daftykins> crikey
[08:55] <ducasse> he was so excited to get his hwe upgrade fixed :)
[08:56] <daftykins> those things are pretty messy i find
[08:56] <ducasse> he was still on the utopic hwe stack...
[08:56] <daftykins> XD
[08:57] <daftykins> i install from 14.04.1 media and stay on the 3.13 kernel ;)
[08:57] <daftykins> i can understand HWE for desktops and newer hardware support, but for my VMs... nope
[08:58] <ducasse> different scenario, indeed. he wanted the latest x stack etc.
[08:59] <daftykins> *nod*
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[16:58] <OerHeks> nom nom 24 core Power9 http://www.nextplatform.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ibm-hot-chips-power9-die.jpg
[17:18] <BluesKaj> wow OerHeks that makes my quadcore i3 look pretty simple :-)
[17:19] <OerHeks> Not sure the price will be ..
[17:21] <BluesKaj> mucho buckos I'm sure
[17:21] <ducasse> i friend recently did a project on a power8, he couldn't manage to load it more than 11% no matter what he did :)
[21:52] <Bashing-om> Hey EriC^^ ; glad to see ya back on .
[21:52] <EriC^^> hey Bashing-om
[21:52] <EriC^^> you as well :)
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Let's see what we can learn today, huh ?
[21:53] <EriC^^> sure
[21:54] <Bashing-om> That is ..... providing we want to go there :)


[08:50] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:04] <Aiween> hi
[20:04] <AlanBell> hi Aiween
[20:04] <Pendulum> hiya Aiween
[20:04] <Aiween> hi both


[21:03] <airurando> evening all
[21:04] <airurando> I hope your weekends are going well.
[21:46] <infoturtle> stupid over heating cpu :c
[21:47] <airurando> oh dear infoturtle
[21:48] <infoturtle> yep, the heat sync is full of hair and stuff and my friend was playin unreal and it just shutdown
[21:48] <infoturtle> have to clean the out soon
[21:49] <airurando> was just going to ask about the dust
[21:50] <airurando> cat hair in your case I suspect
[21:51] <infoturtle> well. since I put the heat sync on it hasn't been cleaned so it's years of god knows what in there, cat hair most lilkly
[21:56]  * airurando thinks all houses should have HEPA filters to protect the electronic stuff.
[21:56] <airurando> :)
[21:58] <infoturtle> might just start geling the cats hair into place, sounds cheaper in the short run
[22:00] <airurando> ha ha :)
[22:00] <airurando> or quit playing games.
[22:01] <infoturtle> aw, turns out I might grab a HEPA filter so
[22:04] <infoturtle> oh ya, must look into booking a place for staying in Dublin for the release party, where might we be close to? not strayin too far from chungs I assume??
[22:04] <airurando> no idea really
[22:05] <airurando> I'll be trekking up from athy
[22:05] <airurando> won't be staying late either as I've work at 7am next day
[22:05] <airurando> guys at the meeting will be better able to advise
[22:06] <infoturtle> ugh, that sux, would it not suit tohave sugested Friday?
[22:06] <infoturtle> ya ok, I'll ask then
[22:07] <airurando> that weekend I'll be working Fri Sat and Sun starting at 7am each day and not finishing till 7pm so Thurs is the best of a bad lot.
[22:08] <infoturtle> oh man, thats harsh! disadvantages of getting more money than the dole!
[22:08] <syngindub> i need weed
[22:09] <infoturtle> bad place to be looking
[22:09] <syngindub> lol
[22:09] <airurando> infoturtle with 2 kids I'm happy to do it :)
[22:10] <syngindub> im not lookin
[22:10] <airurando> hi syngindub
[22:10] <infoturtle> airurando it's all ahead of me, for now I'll enjoy the freedom of being able to consider 10 x noodles a weekly shop
[22:11] <airurando> infoturtle that is exactly the right attitude
[22:15] <syngindub> hu airurando
[22:15] <syngindub> hi
[22:17] <airurando> syngindub: read earlier you ain't happy with unity
[22:18] <airurando> can't say I blame you
[22:18] <airurando> but remember Ubuntu is for the masses
[22:19] <syngindub> yeah i commented yesterday on this
[22:19] <syngindub> this masses don't interest me :)
[22:19] <syngindub> the
[22:19] <infoturtle> think it's the same as gnome vs kde vs xfce, have which ever one you like installed and use it, I love gnome but have friends who love xfce
[22:19]  * airurando read the irc logs at work today
[22:20] <airurando> syngindub fair point (speaking as a member of the masses) :)
[22:21] <airurando> but the desktop environment can always be changed
[22:21] <syngindub> decided to run mint for the time being until i decide what i'll do
[22:21] <airurando> yeah, I saw that
[22:21] <airurando> It's funny really.
[22:21] <airurando> in my house
[22:22] <airurando> my daughter loves unity
[22:22] <airurando> I'm not gone on it
[22:22] <syngindub> i'd say it will appeal to a lot of people alright
[22:22] <infoturtle> think it suits netbooks down to the ground but for desktops not really
[22:22] <syngindub> not at all
[22:22] <airurando> daughter is 9 yr old
[22:22]  * infoturtle expresses his view
[22:23] <airurando> infoturtle: I concur
[22:23] <syngindub> i have my daughter very comfotable using linux and windows L)
[22:24] <airurando> syngindub: thats essential
[22:24] <airurando> :)
[22:24] <syngindub> trying to steer her clear of the latter though :)
[22:24] <airurando> indeed
[22:25] <infoturtle> windows has it's features, still use it everyday
[22:25] <syngindub> yeah, well i support a windows env
[22:28] <syngindub> it ain't fun
[22:29] <airurando> syngindub: standard mint or mint
[22:29] <airurando> sorry mind debian
[22:29] <airurando> oh dear
[22:29] <airurando> *mint
[22:31] <syngindub> standard mint. might check out that the mint debian though
[22:31] <airurando> I came from mint to ubuntu
[22:32] <airurando> liked the community around ubuntu
[22:32] <airurando> and the idea behind it
[22:32] <syngindub> i've been OS hopping for about 10 years but nearly always go back to ubuntu alright.
[22:33] <syngindub> just not sure if i'll head in that direction when 11.04 is launched
[22:34] <airurando> yeah it's a real concern
[22:35] <infoturtle> I had kubuntu first and hated the look of it, stoped using it after a week, came back one yeaar later when I left work and loved it
[22:35] <airurando> but for me the driving principal behind ubuntu still excites me.
[22:35] <airurando> *principle
[22:39] <infoturtle> I love that it actually educates its users as they use (I may have spelled some things wrong there)
[22:41] <syngindub> how so?
[22:41]  * infoturtle gets drunker as time goes on
[22:41] <infoturtle> off to play me some xbox
[22:41] <infoturtle> cya guys later!!
[22:41] <syngindub> enjoy


[13:39] <mandel> does anyone where the hash password used by couch db is stored? I'm trying to access the db but it requires the admin password :(
[13:56] <mandel>  does anyone where the hash password used by couch db is stored? I'm trying to access the db but it requires the admin password :(
[16:17] <thomastp> gaah, aquarius could have told me that ubuntu's python-httplib2 0.4.0 is not upstream, but quite patched
[16:29] <thomastp> wait, desktopcouch triggers replication once in a while, instead of having a continuous replication going on ?
[20:43] <chewit> dobey, sorry to be a nag, any more news on the multi uploader on the web interface?


[03:57] <ubptgbot> Luis Raul A L was added by: Luis Raul A L
 @Lirrums [Puedes encontrar nuestra charla hablando de Ubuntu touch en Youtube, muchas grac …], English only please ^^SPAM
 @floop2 [English only please ^^SPAM], Is it considered spam if it's a video about making apps for UbuntuTouch?
 yeah doesn't seem to be a spam although it would be better if an English message was added to explain what the forwarded link is
 @Javacookies [yeah doesn't seem to be a spam although it would be better if an English message …], is a live we gave in our ubuntu community in colombia 🇨🇴 talking about app development with UT, no is spam.
 that's cool👍
[05:49] <ubptgbot> Bhojpuria_bhaia was added by: Bhojpuria_bhaia
 @Lirrums [Puedes encontrar nuestra charla hablando de Ubuntu touch en Youtube, muchas grac …], Cool! I guess you posted this already in the spanish group?
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], I love this 😍 Looks like good old Nokia Communicators
 @dohbee [I don't think Adobe provides generic arm builds of flash], Also, Flash is discontinued and should not be used anymore
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], You'r imei clearly shown in this video i suggest deleting the vif
 @jonny [Cool! I guess you posted this already in the spanish group?], Yes she did
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], Wow that's impressive.
 @Waxberry [<reply to media>], [Edit] You'r imei clearly shown in this video i suggest deleting the vid
 .
 @extraymond [Wow that's impressive.], daaayyyyuuumm
 The F(x)tec is a lovely device but it's bloody expensive
 @Silvershock [The F(x)tec is a lovely device but it's bloody expensive], Worth every penny imo
 Do someone use the signet password manager on Ubuntu Phone?
 I am planning on installing the client in a Libertine container. Can someone help me?
 @malditobastardo [I was playing toda with a Pinephone CE (thanks @milkor73) , we made some calls e …], https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4430/low-phone-call-volume-on-pinephone
 Maybe this is related. Anyway. I didn't read people complaining about this that's why I want someone to confirm this to me as well
 @malditobastardo [Maybe this is related. Anyway. I didn't read people complaining about this that' …], I agree with that : sounds related to phone calls are not enough loud.
[12:36] <ubptgbot> jimmytest was added by: jimmytest
 @malditobastardo [Maybe this is related. Anyway. I didn't read people complaining about this that' …], I can confirm this, too: People say that they can hear me crystal clear (even better quality than with my other phones), while I can hardly understand them because the sound is so low.
 @DanielS79 [I can confirm this, too: People say that they can hear me crystal clear (even be …], Sometimes this also happen on FP2
[15:26] <ubptgbot> Вова Широков was added by: Вова Широков
[16:43] <ubptgbot> <Karl Kelso> Hi all, on my UBports CE I cannot make calls but I can receive them but there is no sound. Outgoing calls fail. I can send and receive texts. Sound does work in Morph and on dial pad. … Is there something I need to run in order to get these working?
 any one with experience with either the Sony Xperia X or the X Performance running UT? which should I get?
 difference are in gpu/cpu. Is either phone more problematic in bringing up UT then he other?
[19:01] <ubptgbot> Omer Ori was added by: Omer Ori
 Hi. My Nexus 5 doesnt show WLAN-SSIDs anymore and i cant connect. A known bug? Any solution?
 @Karl Kelso [Hi all, on my UBports CE I cannot make calls but I can receive them but there is …], From what I know this is not yet implemented for PinePhone. WIP.
 @Danfro [From what I know this is not yet implemented for PinePhone. WIP.], in general, calls should be working, but different providers may have various issues
 Yeah I can call with UBports Pinephobe
 And SMS
 @matv1 [any one with experience with either the Sony Xperia X or the X Performance runni …], Xperia X works very fine, except camera.
 awsum thanks. The x was where my research was pointing me to
[20:23] <ubptgbot> <Karl Kelso> @dohbee I can make and receive calls on Mobian without issue using the same Mint Mobile SIM here in USA.  … I checked the Pine64 forums and some were hit and miss using UBports and Mint. I did run the scripts the turn the modem on but it did not seem to make a difference.
 mobian i guess is probably based on debian testing, not ubuntu 16.04
 so there are probably some discrepancies between ofono versions and such
 I dont think Mobian uses ofono
 i guess it depends on what dialer you use
 if it's phosh/gnome stuff maybe it's using modem-manager
 They use modem manager
 I wanna ask  … That  … I have OPPO neo 7 … Will ubuntu touch will run on it?
[21:03] <ubptgbot> <Karl Kelso> If it is the dialer, then it is able to work for some carriers and not others?
 @Karl Kelso [If it is the dialer, then it is able to work for some carriers and not others?], no, it's not like that
 it's that pinephone is an in-development phone and there are still some issues being worked on
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [I wanna ask  … That  … I have OPPO neo 7 … Will ubuntu touch will run on it?], Can a get an answer  … Please
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [I wanna ask  … That  … I have OPPO neo 7 … Will ubuntu touch will run on it?], [Edit] Can i get an answer  … Please
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [Can i get an answer  … Please], you must port it
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [I wanna ask  … That  … I have OPPO neo 7 … Will ubuntu touch will run on it?], [Edit] Can I get an answer  … Please
 any device not on https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io must have a port made for it. you are welcome to do so
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [I wanna ask  … That  … I have OPPO neo 7 … Will ubuntu touch will run on it?], Oppo Neo 7 is A33f?
 But originally it's provided with 1 gb ram  … N 16gb rom
 @commandyourstyle [Oppo Neo 7 is A33f?], Yeap bro
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [But originally it's provided with 1 gb ram  … N 16gb rom], it doesn't matter. every device needs specific port built for it
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [But originally it's provided with 1 gb ram  … N 16gb rom], and AFAIK it didn't have workable device tree.
[21:06] <ubptgbot> <Karl Kelso> @dohbee Understand completely. Outside of the calling issue and camera, the UBports runs smoothly.
 go to https://t.me/halium to get started
 So I just need to port n it will work ?
 if the necessary things are available to port it, yes
 but we don't control that
 just a note, 1 gb device is not a reasonable porting target at this point
 [Edit] just a note, 1 gb RAM device is not a reasonable porting target at this point
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [So I just need to port n it will work ?], in theory... 1GB RAM can't run ubuntu touch.
 but alternative thing is postmarketOS
 Ok
 in practice there's zRAM and it can work somewhat ok
 Sorry but  … What's zRam
 oppo a33f is too old... and it's kernel version 3.10.49...
 @commandyourstyle [oppo a33f is too old... and it's kernel version 3.10.49...], Bro I guess u know alot about that device
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [Bro I guess u know alot about that device], because I have similar device A51f
 O … So what's that running on
 I mean in present
 @mrcyjanek [Because it's something simple like neofetch and some static binaries that doesn' …], Neofetch seems to be a bash script tho :x
 @judgment956 [Here is the original repo. https://github.com/Xray1870/sailbook/tree/master and …], Cool i'll look into it when i have a chance
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [Sorry but  … What's zRam], Zram is a program that compresses things in ram to allow for more room
 @Bhojpuria_bhaia [Sorry but  … What's zRam], [Edit] Zram is a program that compresses things in ram to allow for more room in ram
 To put it simply it allow a 1gb ram phone to appear to have 1.5gb
 ^ Oversimplified mind you