[09:01] <skupe> _patrick, yes. search works just fine but it doesn't find kubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <_jason> gia: are you comfortable editing your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:01] <gia> yeah
[09:01] <tore-> dereks, and why would i stop it?
[09:02] <Thralas> _jason, it has a weird ascii output with Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[09:02] <Thralas>  pointing to a space with an i. How do I check the state?
[09:02] <gia> I try to follow procedure for ubunto.org
[09:02] <dereks> tore-: i don't really know what you are doing
[09:02] <_jason> gia: delete the mirrormax backports lines because 1) you are using breezy, not hoary and 2) mirrormax backports no longer exist
[09:02] <_patrick> just type kubuntu and then wat do you get
[09:02] <gia> then thats gonna b fine
[09:02] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, i think so. I mean they can write to the folder.
[09:02] <skupe> _patrick, nothing
[09:02] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, where is the ssh log?
[09:02] <skupe> shoud be so simple
[09:02] <oskude> davidmoore83, go to console (ctrl-alt-f1), login, type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to stop X...
[09:03] <sexcopter8000m> hi, want to compile this programme http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/ and get a problem which could be fixed i think by the patch described "patch fixing a build failure", which is a .diff file. how can i "run" this?
[09:03] <gia> how can i download some software
[09:03] <pigo> hi
[09:03] <_jason> Thralas: what does?
[09:03] <pigo> sorry
[09:03] <_patrick> and you added repositories
[09:03] <tore-> dereks, are you sure your talking to the right person?
[09:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell gia about synaptic
[09:03] <miguel> ping
[09:03] <Seveas> gia, applications  add applications
[09:03] <gia> those affect updating #
[09:03] <gia> yeah I using that
[09:03] <pigo> i have one problem with webcam help me?
[09:03] <gia> so I gonna try it again thanks guys
[09:03] <twirpie> mkay you know how windows has 4 users one is the system op the others are just users, well how do i add users to ubuntu?
[09:03] <skupe> _patrick, how? could you help me with that. i can google also as usually
[09:04] <Ongo>  hi. When I start gnome I get "Failed initializing HAL". Can anyone help me?
[09:04] <_patrick> skupe: look at this might help  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:05] <_michael_> I've been using an iPod and it finally took a dive on me. I bought a creative nomad jukebox now because I like the cost effectiveness over buying a new iPod... Herein lies the problem, My iPod only has *.m4a files and I don't think Ubuntu or my Jukebox will read them. Does anybody have some solutions or ideas??
[09:05] <erez> twirpie: System > Admin. > users and grups > add user
[09:05] <twirpie> k thanks
[09:05] <rebelguys6> Larsson-Sweden, you may want to try sshd in debug mode (sshd -d) for a more verbose log
[09:05] <rebelguys6> i don't think it writes much stuff normally
[09:05] <skupe> _patrick, thanks
[09:05] <McJerry> any help appreciated...when i reboot ubuntu dapper...i have to type ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get networking working again....please advise
[09:05] <tristanmike> !tell michael about ipod
[09:05] <Kryspy> how far above the moron level is it toget a airpirt express set up and stream wireless music from your PC to a home theater system ????
[09:05] <dereks> tore-: haha no, i read the line under you
[09:05] <dereks> :)
[09:05] <dereks> sorry
[09:06] <_michael_> How can I convert *.m4a to *.mp3 in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <roaet> wheee!
[09:06] <_patrick> skupe: tell us if it doesnt work then we can outline the problems
[09:06] <andy_> quick question how do get file manager to see this directory //home/andy/.xMule/Incoming do I have to browse as root? Thanks in advance
[09:06] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6, so i'll start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start -d  ?
[09:06] <skupe> _patrick, ok
[09:06] <apostols> Hi
[09:06] <anders_> can anyone tell me where Xserver is located in the HDD?
[09:06] <apostols> I need hel with Sound in Ubuntu Dapper
[09:07] <_jason> andy_: press ctrl+l and type /home/andy/.xMule/Incoming, or just press ctrl-h to show hidden directories and click as usual
[09:07] <Ongo>  hi. When I start gnome I get "Failed initializing HAL". Can anyone help me?
[09:07] <rebelguys6> Larsson-Sweden, uh, you should first stop sshd by /etc/init.d/ssh stop, then do a 'sudo sshd -d'
[09:07] <joelw23> can someone help me format a hard drive it's my slave drive
[09:07] <apostols> apostols@sao:~$ sudo discover sound
[09:07] <apostols> Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
[09:07] <apostols> apostols@sao:~$ sudo discover sound --module
[09:07] <apostols> i810_audio
[09:07] <apostols> But not sound gnome
[09:07] <andy_> thank you so much jason
[09:07] <Larsson-Sweden> rebelguys6,  ok, will it write a log then or?
[09:08] <rebelguys6> it should just print to the console
[09:08] <Kryspy> anyone have any experience with airport express ??
[09:08] <rebelguys6> and not go into the background
[09:08] <tristanmike> _michael_: i believe you need to search for 'libfaad' and 'libfaac' and install those for .m4a, etc.
[09:08] <skupe> _patrick, thanks. that did the trick!
[09:08] <_michael_> ty
[09:09] <oskude> joelw23, where is it connected, ide 1 slave ?
[09:09] <_patrick> no problem
[09:09] <apostols> ci -v | grep Multimedia
[09:09] <apostols> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:09] <joelw23> oskude, yes
[09:09] <rebelguys6> Kryspy, you may want to try http://nanocrew.net/?page_id=115 (with mono,) but its probably very experimental
[09:09] <oskude> joelw23, ok, then the harddisk should be at "/dev/hdb"
[09:10] <twirpie> should new users be put is the $user group?
[09:10] <joelw23> ok
[09:10] <jinkiez> whats that package to get that gives you make, gcc, etc..?
[09:10] <joelw23> fdisk /dev/hdb
[09:10] <oskude> joelw23, i use "cfdisk" for partitioning
[09:10] <_jason> jinkiez: build-essential
[09:10] <tristanmike> jinkiez: build-essential
 ty
[09:10] <jinkiez> thanks :)
[09:10] <joelw23> ok
[09:10] <GnarusLeo> ./configure && make && make install :)
[09:11] <joelw23> oskude, it said can't open disk
[09:11] <oskude> joelw23, cfdisk is a little more user friendly than fdisk...
[09:11] <tristanmike> use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' ;)
[09:11] <oskude> joelw23, you need "sudo" for that
[09:11] <_michael_> tristanmike; There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:11] <irad> hello
[09:11] <joelw23> ok
[09:11] <_michael_> i installed those packages
[09:11] <rebelguys6> joelw23, do a 'sudo fdisk -l' to see where all your current partitions and drives are
[09:11] <oskude> joelw23, and it must be unmounted!
[09:11] <irad> i just installed kubuntu and i can't get my sound work
[09:11] <irad> any ideas how can i make it work?
[09:11] <tristanmike> _michael_: try searching for 'gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad"
[09:12] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group?
[09:12] <Newbieee> somebody could tell me How can I use my mp3 from Windows partitions?
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> Is there such a thing as antigrep?  I want to limit output by NOT displaying results containing a particular string.  As in, 'ls | don't show things with "/home"'
[09:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell Newbieee about ntfs
[09:12] <polpak> !tell Newbieee about mp3
[09:12] <inflik> i have a cpu question can someone pm me if they want to help me
[09:12] <GnarusLeo> tonyyarusso, exclude?
[09:12] <ara> guys check out these icons http://tux.crystalxp.net/index.php
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> GnarusLeo: That could be.
[09:12] <GnarusLeo> !tell inflik aout ask
[09:12] <joelw23> uh ok
[09:12] <GnarusLeo> tonyyarusso, just a hunch :)
[09:12] <joelw23> uh oh
[09:13] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: grep -v <--- anti-grep
[09:13] <irad> what might be my sound problem?
[09:13] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: ls | grep -v home
[09:13] <harm__> i mounted a hdb1 and now i cant open it... permision denied
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> Goldfisch: Perfect!  Thanks.
[09:13] <harm__> any ideas?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> GnarusLeo: Close I guess :)
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> harm__: What filesystem?
[09:14] <harm__> ntsf
[09:14] <inflik> im kinda a noob with pc stuff so my question is a intel celeron d 2.6 ghz better then a athlon 2800+ xp?
[09:14] <_michael_> tristanmike; it's still not working, gstreamer0.8-faad wasn't listed
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell harm__ about ntfs
[09:14] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:14] <GnarusLeo> irad, applications -> System Tools -> Ubuntu Drive Database .... also try "sudo apt-get install xine" and "sudo apt-get install xine-engine"
[09:14] <graveson> having an issue with the reliability of writing to ntfs.what is the status of ubuntu(breezy) and ntfs
[09:15] <irad> i use kubuntu btw not ubuntu
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> graveson: Not good.  Dapper is rumoured to be okay.
[09:15] <GnarusLeo> granted, experimental ... (!)
[09:15] <polpak> graveson, it's unstable
[09:15] <joelw23> oskude, i created a partition in cfdisk
[09:15] <joelw23> does that mean it's formatted
[09:15] <inflik> im kinda a noob with pc stuff so my question is a intel celeron d 2.6 ghz better then a athlon 2800+ xp?
[09:15] <oskude> joelw23, no, you have to format it yourself
[09:15] <joelw23> oskude, how
[09:15] <gtest> I just connected a supercom 1416 monochrome monitor I found on the street. to my surprise the textmode flicker like mad (text is unreadable) but X work fine in 640x480. I do not use framebuffer. any ideas of how to adjust the refresh-rate for console mode?
[09:16] <oskude> joelw23, what format should it be ?
[09:16] <tristanmike> _michael_: hmmm, I have gstreamer0.8-faad
[09:16] <twirpie> inflik id go with the athlon
[09:16] <joelw23> oskude, not sure
[09:16] <tristanmike> _michael_: what version of ubuntu ?
[09:16] <oskude> joelw23, and you have to give the same type in partition tool that your gonna format it
[09:16] <joelw23> somthing so i can access accross a windows network
[09:16] <_michael_> 5.10
[09:17] <rebelguys6> gtest, you may want to try the nofb kernel option or something similar to that
[09:17] <oskude> joelw23, that could be fat32
[09:17] <joelw23> ok
[09:17] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:17] <inflik> thank you twirpie i just didnt know because the celeron is newer but celerons are bad
[09:17] <tristanmike> _michael_: same as me, I assume you have all your repos, universe, multiverse ?
[09:17] <Hal9000> is there a flight cd for ubuntu-server 6.06?
[09:17] <_michael_> tristanmike; yep
[09:17] <twirpie> np just my opinion though so choose as you will
[09:18] <_michael_> tristanmike; what program do you use to listen to them?
[09:18] <oskude> joelw23, and to format it, "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1" (1 if its the first partition)
[09:18] <inflik> i was thinking athlon anyways either way its just a hold off pc untill i get a more money
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> Goldfisch: And I have now found my missing file.  Yay for anti-grep.
[09:18] <inflik> im only spending like 350 bucks canadian alot of mixing my old parts
[09:18] <irad> GnarusLeo: when i trying to play files in amarok it replys: The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.
[09:18] <irad> You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.
[09:18] <irad> You may find useful information in the FAQ section of the amaroK HandBook.
[09:18] <tristanmike> _michael_: well, see, that's the thing, to be honest, I don't own an ipod, nor do i have any apple tunes..however this was the method i was told i was to follow
[09:19] <joelw23> oskude, is it 0b for fat32
[09:19] <tristanmike> _michael_: that package is suppose to be there http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gstreamer0.8-faad&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[09:19] <GnarusLeo> irad, get the xine-engine
[09:19] <_michael_> tristanmike; k, thanks
[09:19] <irad> that's the problem?
[09:19] <irad> thanks
[09:19] <GnarusLeo> irad, "sudo apt-get install xine-engine" and yes :) thats the problem
[09:19] <irad> muy thanks :)
[09:19] <GnarusLeo> yw
[09:20] <oskude> joelw23, i tend to use "0C"
[09:20] <joelw23> oskude, ok
[09:20] <tristanmike> _michael_: sorry I couldn't be of any more help
[09:20] <mds\> can anyone here tell me how much of a difference I'll notice if I compile a kernel (2.6.16) with the Con Kolivas patches mentioned on the ubutuforums guide?
[09:21] <GnarusLeo> !frostwire
[09:21] <jimmyxx> hi vmware wants me to tell it where my linux headers are? but i dont have anything in usr/src/ how do i know which ones i should apt-get install?
[09:21] <mojojojo_> hello there! I have a veeery strange problem.. I googled the web futily, so... any help would be appreciated...
[09:21] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:22] <_michael_> tristanmike; thanks
[09:22] <tristanmike> _michael_: out of curiosity, what program are you using to listen to them ?
[09:22] <rebelguys6> jimmyxx, do a 'uname -a' to figure out the kernel version you need
[09:22] <GnarusLeo> update to ubotu .. you dont need dos2unix formatter to change a file format settings(!) while nano, you can CTRL - O to save, and ALT - D to change format .. just a clue :)
[09:22] <irad> xine-engine isn't in my repositories
[09:22] <_michael_> tristanmike; i was using totem, but when I try to play them with xmms it doesn't seem to complain... but my speakers aren't working at all right now
[09:22] <irad> is there any other place it can be?
[09:22] <GnarusLeo> irad, apt-cache search xine
[09:22] <joelw23> oskude, i think i got it
[09:23] <irad> aight :)
[09:23] <jimmyxx> thanks rebelguys6
[09:23] <jimmyxx> downloading now :)
[09:24] <tristanmike> _michael_: so what you're saying is that even if it were working, you really wouldn't be able to tell cause you can't hear it ? is that what you're saying ? :P
[09:24] <GnarusLeo> irad, as you probably saw it was called amarok-xine :)
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> GnarusLeo: You do know ubotu doesn't have a clue what you just said, right?
[09:24] <irad> oh that one? :)
[09:24] <GnarusLeo> irad, if you wanted to use amarok and so on
[09:24] <GnarusLeo> tonyyarusso, of course :) Just a hunch if someone was interessted :P
[09:24] <irad> i want to get the general xine-engine so i wouldn't have any problem later on
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> 'k.
[09:25] <_michael_> tristanmike; if it wasn't giving me errors i wouldn't... i was hoping just to see the little bar move, but xmms doesn't have that
[09:25] <GnarusLeo> irad, it depends on wich program you want to play mp3 with ... the xine engine is a plugin for different apps
[09:25] <_michael_> tristanmike; i'm looking for some nice ones
[09:25] <rybuntu> anyone know how to change the start menu icon?
[09:25] <tristanmike> _michael_: amaroK does ;)
[09:25] <GnarusLeo> irad, including its own (wich is xine:)
[09:25] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group? also does ubuntu strore any temperary files when installing something and what not? does it delete that temp stuff automaticly or do i need to do it?
[09:26] <mojojojo_> soooo... I have ext3 partition with my Ubuntu, and 2 fat32 partitions left for WinXp... I store programs and multimedia in wone of them... after I startup Ubuntu it runs ok and I can write sth on those fat32s, but... I do the following... I run Windows applicaiton using Wine and the error pops up saying "access denied"... then a ran nautilus and guess what? I can't change the filesystem because it says it's read-only.
[09:26] <rebelguys6> rybuntu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6457.html
[09:26] <_michael_> tristanmike; i'll try it
[09:26] <shadeofgrey> hey guys does anybody here have extensive esxperience with abiword?
[09:26] <tristanmike> _michael_: it makes me cry it's so nice :P
[09:27] <mojojojo_> those are entries for my fat32: /dev/hda1       /windows/c      vfat    defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0
[09:27] <mojojojo_> /dev/hda5       /windows/d      vfat    defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0
[09:27] <Blippe> twirpie, it is emptied. and if you want to be real sure you could run a "apt-get clean"...
[09:27] <mojojojo_> any ideas?
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> and does anybody know why the version of openoffice that ships with flight 5 dapper is so prone to crashing?
[09:27] <GnarusLeo> !dapper
[09:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:27] <Blippe> twirpie, the temp folder is located in /tmp but those files are in use!
[09:27] <tristanmike> _michael_: far better than any player for windows imho
[09:27] <crimsun> GTroy: pong
[09:27] <twirpie> just "apt-get clean" without qoutes?
[09:27] <GnarusLeo> _michael_, amarok is the best there is (on all os)
[09:27] <Blippe> shadeofgrey, it os called beta stages...
[09:27] <rybuntu> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92952&page=2 its here.. gconf will do it
[09:27] <tore-> twirpie, sudo apt-get clean
[09:27] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, you might want to add rw on the options
[09:27] <joelw23> oskude, how do i get it to show up now
[09:27] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo: I second that
[09:28] <Thralas> _michael_, what's your problem? Tried to scroll up a bit but couldn't find. AmaroK won't play Mp3  or?
[09:28] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, oh?
[09:28] <irad> it's still not working
[09:28] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, and also, user
[09:28] <oskude> joelw23, you mean howto mount ? heres some info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:28] <irad> it looks like it's going to play but actually it doesn't
[09:28] <tristanmike> Thralas: no, trying to play apple tunes
[09:28] <GnarusLeo> irad, now you have to choose that engine .. check your settings ... wich program are you trying to play mp3 with?
[09:28] <Thralas> Oh irad then
[09:28] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, I might try that, but as I said at the beginning I CAN write it
[09:28] <irad> yeah, done that
[09:28] <_michael_> tristanmike; i was using different program, totem... i'm dloading amaroK
[09:29] <twirpie> just "apt-get clean" without qoutes doesnt seem to do anything
[09:29] <Titan> Any wine experts here? No one seems to be in the winehq channel right now.
[09:29] <tristanmike> GnarusLeo: yeah of course, amaroK is my fave player :)
[09:29] <Thralas> irad, having problem with mp3 playback and amaroK?
[09:29] <irad> yeah
[09:29] <irad> and kaffeine and other :)
[09:29] <Thralas> So did I
[09:29] <Thralas> Ah well I tried amarok-xine as well
[09:29] <Blippe> twirpie... yeah, but to run apt-get you have to have priviligies to do stuff to the system... with sudo... but, it really isn't necessary, you might want to use it way later, after a lot of updates and if you have close to no space left on your harddrive
[09:29] <GnarusLeo> tristanmike, though you ment it was your second choice :) I see ... both thumbs up
[09:29] <Nick-Atis> hey
[09:29] <Blippe> twirpie, So "sudo apt-get clean"
[09:29] <twirpie> ok kewl now about the $user????
[09:29] <Thralas> Until tristanmike suggested getting gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:29] <irad> and how you manage to get it work?
[09:29] <GnarusLeo> irad, try to choose the xine-engine and use either "alsa" or "oss" as output ... it really should work
[09:30] <mojojojo_> ok, better this than nothing... thx :)
[09:30] <twirpie> should new users accounts be put is the $user group?
[09:30] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, yeah, i'm not sure
[09:30] <GnarusLeo> twirpie, that deppends ...
[09:30] <irad> nope, not working
[09:30] <Thralas> Even though gstreamer was already listed in AmaroK, getting that pakage fixed it for me. Xine didn't playback using neither OSS not Alsa
[09:30] <joelw23> Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[09:30] <joelw23> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[09:30] <joelw23> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:30] <joelw23>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:30] <joelw23> /dev/hdb1               1        9729    78148161    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[09:30] <Nick-Atis> does anyone know of any desktop post-it software for Ubuntu?
[09:30] <Nick-Atis> somethng like Quick Notes Plus
[09:30] <GnarusLeo> twirpie, groups are for privilegies ... depends on wich users you want to add ... normally just add them and theyr be fine :)
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> Nick-Atis: Yeah, xpad
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> Nick-Atis: Or tomboy
[09:31] <Blippe> twirpie, there is a "add new user command" that does all of that automagically...
[09:31] <Thralas> You're sure you set the engine back to gstreamer having the -mad package installed, irad ?
[09:31] <twirpie> its cause i was told never to use the root user
[09:31] <irad> no
[09:31] <oskude> joelw23, please dont paste here again, use pastebin.com or so for that
[09:31] <irad> i haven't done anything with the gstreamer
[09:31] <harm__> whats a good linux mp3 player?
[09:31] <joelw23> sorry
[09:32] <zukero> harm__ : xmms ?
[09:32] <zukero> amarok ?
[09:32] <Newbieee> I cannot mount the windows partitions
[09:32] <rebelguys6> rhythmbox
[09:32] <Blippe> Nick-Atis, search in synaptic for postit, i think i have seen at least two there before
[09:32] <Newbieee> I`ve tried...
[09:32] <harm__> ok thxzukero
[09:32] <zukero> harm__  :depending on your needs
[09:32] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, I checked the man to make sure, "defaults" in fstab means its "rw"
[09:32] <harm__> well i want something that can play all types
[09:32] <harm__> and doesnt ave to be flasy
[09:32] <zukero> harm__  : you want a light one, or a powerfull one ?
[09:33] <zukero> ok, so go for xmms
[09:33] <Thralas> I like amaroK already
[09:33] <harm__> thank you :P
[09:33] <Nick-Atis> what about a dock application?
[09:33] <Nick-Atis> like object dock
[09:33] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, yeah i see that, did you check the logs for anything weird?
[09:33] <Blippe> i hate all the mp3-players. i use foobar2000 in wine!
[09:34] <oskude> joelw23, the "normal" way could be just adding "/dev/hdb1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0" to your "/etc/fstab" file...
[09:34] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, I'm not that advanced :] ... which one are they?
[09:34] <joelw23> i got it
[09:35] <joelw23> thanks oskude
[09:35] <ZeZu> can anyone help me out with my audio, it doesn't work anymore, everything complains it can't open it
[09:35] <oskude> joelw23, works ? do you have /media/windows directory ?
[09:35] <_michael_> tristanmike; as far as I can see amaroK is playing the m4a files nicely, but my Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra can't read m4a, do you know how to convert them safely to mp3?
[09:36] <rebelguys6> mojojojo_, /var/log/messages may have some information, it sounds like its being remounted somehow
[09:36] <oskude> joelw23, ofcourse "/media/windows" can be what ever you want, it just has to exist
[09:37] <joelw23> oskude, thanks again
[09:37] <Blippe> ZeZu, you had mp3-capablilities and then it all went away?
[09:37] <ZeZu> is there an alsa.cfg somewhere that stores info no the drivers?
[09:37] <ZeZu> Blippe: yes my audio worked and then it stopped, i had been trying to get surround working
[09:38] <crimsun> ZeZu: what sound card do you have?
[09:38] <tristanmike> _michael_: well, afaik, if you have the 2 gstreamer libraries -faad and -faac those should be the decoders, and the the other two should help you encode, but again, I haven't ever used them in practice
[09:38] <ZeZu> crimsun: onboard on a asus p4c800 Delux, i think it might be ich5 ?
[09:38] <crimsun> ZeZu: pastebin ``lspci -v''
[09:38] <_michael_> tristanmike; thanks
[09:38] <c0llin> hello
[09:38] <wuzzy> hi all! how do i tell which programs/processes are using a certain file?
[09:39] <tristanmike> _michael_: anytime :)
[09:39] <mojojojo_> rebelguys6, ok, thx for the tip :)
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> (Why is #kubuntu so much lower traffic?)  How to install a KDE theme from .tar.gz?  There were instructions on kde-look.org, but that's down.
[09:39] <_jason> wuzzy: fuser
[09:39] <Blippe> tonyyarusso, you probably have to untar it (with your favourite unpacker) and read the readme!
[09:39] <_michael_> tristanmike; is afaik a program i don't have it in my repos         also, are you using KDE?
[09:40] <ZeZu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZXxpN364.html
[09:40] <c0llin> is there a way to install winesetuptk on amd64?
[09:40] <rebelguys6> _michael_, from the command line you can try 'faad -w infile.m4a > lame -h - outfile.mp3
[09:40] <rebelguys6> '
[09:40] <rebelguys6> :)
[09:40] <tristanmike> _michael_: I use both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, right now I'm on Kubuntu :)
[09:40] <_michael_> k
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Blippe: The readme isn't in English :(
[09:40] <crimsun> ZeZu: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[09:41] <irad> so anyone can figure out what's my sound problem is?
[09:41] <ZeZu> crimsun: no such file
[09:41] <wuzzy> _jason: ok, thanks! so if "fuser <filename>" shows nothing, the file is not open by anyone?
[09:41] <crimsun> ZeZu: pastebin ``lsmod''
[09:41] <[TechGuy] > is there a separate channel for the Ubuntu Server install set? Just trying to figure out the rationale behind PCMCIA & ALSA being included in a server install. ;)
[09:41] <crimsun> irad: what's your sound problem?
[09:41] <irad> when i play song on amarok i get this error:
[09:41] <irad> The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.
[09:41] <_jason> wuzzy: yeah, I think I have to use sudo though
[09:41] <irad> You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.
[09:41] <irad> You may find useful information in the FAQ section of the amaroK HandBook
[09:41] <mruiz> holaaaaaaa
[09:42] <crimsun> irad: breezy or dapper?
[09:42] <ZeZu> crimsun: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6cN1rl27.html
[09:42] <wuzzy> _jason: ok thanks!
[09:42] <irad> breezy
[09:42] <irad> kubuntu
[09:42] <crimsun> irad: if you're using the gstreamer engine, do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed? If so, did you run ``sudo gst-register-0.8'' ?
[09:42] <Blippe> tonyyarusso, untar in ~/.kde/share/apps
[09:43] <irad> no, never did, because i didn't know ineed to
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Blippe: Thanks.
[09:43] <c0llin> can i install winesetuptk(i386) on ubuntu amd64?
[09:43] <C-O-L-T> GOOD NIGHT
[09:43] <av8> do i need to install kde to get other themes?
[09:43] <crimsun> ZeZu: ``sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''
[09:43] <irad> but that's a good thing to do i think thanks :)
[09:44] <ZeZu> crimsun: all the files are not found
[09:44] <ZeZu> i can paste if you want
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Blippe: Just there, or /kthememanager?
[09:44] <crimsun> ZeZu: ``uname -r''
[09:44] <_michael_> tristanmike; faad -w Deep\ Inside.m4a > lame -h - Deep\ Inside.mp3 produced a file called lame w/ the lame helpfile text in it
[09:44] <Nick-Atis> can anyone suggest an object dock for gnome?
[09:44] <ZeZu> 2.6.12-10-386
[09:44] <_michael_> tristanmike; 'faad -w Deep\ Inside.m4a > lame -h - Deep\ Inside.mp3'
[09:44] <crimsun> ZeZu: what cpu do you have?
[09:44] <ZeZu> 686
[09:44] <wonder_> hey i have got a problem with "open with" in gnome. i want to open all video files with mplayer. when chosing it in the "open with" dialogue, it doesn't change a thing. totem is used whatever i try
[09:44] <ZeZu> p4 prescott
[09:44] <crimsun> ZeZu: ``sudo apt-get install linux-686''
[09:45] <crimsun> ZeZu: after that finishes, please reboot
[09:45] <mwe> _michael_: that's because you should probably use | instead of >
[09:45] <_michael_> ok
[09:45] <tristanmike> _michael_: get the spaces out of the file name and yes you need the >
[09:45] <rebelguys6> _michael_, oh yeah sorry about that
[09:45] <ZeZu> crimsun: when i boot it says i'm using 686, its odd i specifically checked 686
[09:45] <mwe> _michael_: you wanna pipe, not redirect
[09:45] <gomez_> #ubuntu-it
[09:45] <rebelguys6> mwe is correct
[09:45] <crimsun> ZeZu: but your uname -r isn't 686.
[09:45] <_michael_> lol, i do wanna pipe
[09:45] <ZeZu> also sorry for the dumb questions but what do the backticks do? always wondered
[09:46] <tristanmike> _michael_: err, I meant |   d'oh
[09:46] <crimsun> ZeZu: I use them to indicate a command you need to execute.
[09:46] <ZeZu> ah
[09:46] <irad> okay, now it's playing and no sound, crimsun
[09:46] <_michael_> bash: lame: command not found
[09:46] <_michael_> i need to install, don't i
[09:46] <crimsun> _michael_: install lame from multiverse
[09:46] <ZeZu> b/c they work in the console as well, and i've never found exactly what they do (i guess nothing)
[09:46] <_michael_> aight
[09:46] <crimsun> irad: do you hear sounds from other sources?
[09:46] <irad> nope
[09:46] <ZeZu> anyways thx, reboot
[09:47] <crimsun> irad: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[09:47] <irad> just installed yesterday so it's really hard to know
[09:47] <rebelguys6> ZeZu, they have meaning in shell scripts , see  http://www.signaltonoise.net/library/Adv-Bash-Scr-HOWTO/backticks.html
[09:47] <irad> kk
[09:47] <pulver> hey! is there a keybinding editor available for openbox?
[09:47] <ZeZu> ah
[09:47] <ZeZu> brb
[09:48] <irad> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Uxad4G42.html
[09:48] <irad> there you go
[09:48] <Rdde> Hey! Anyone using some sort of backup system here? I want to have a program or a script that backsup some folders to a different disk ones a week.. best way to do this?
[09:48] <rebelguys6> Rdde, cron + rsync
[09:49] <crimsun> irad: amixer -c0 sset 'External Amplifier' off
[09:49] <Rdde> rebelguys6, whats that? where can i read about it or can you explain?
[09:49] <irad> that's all?
[09:49] <crimsun> irad: test if you can hear sounds
[09:49] <[TechGuy] > Hrm... Does anyone else know about an issue with resolvconf, where /etc/resolvconf/run/interfaces is apparently not existent during initial network startup?
[09:50] <rebelguys6> Rdde, oh well the cron daemon runs things periodically, and rsync is an intelligent copy basically
[09:50] <_michael_> :@!!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <irad> nope nothing yet
[09:50] <_michael_> playing *.mp3 -> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:50] <rcaskey_> Rdde: rsnapshot has been very good to me
[09:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell _michael_ about mp3
[09:50] <rcaskey_> Rdde: I recommend it highly.
[09:50] <crimsun> irad: is this a fresh install of breezy?
[09:50] <_michael_> else, it seems to have worked
[09:51] <rebelguys6> Rdde, do you want to back them up locally? or to a different computer
[09:51] <Rdde> rcaskey_,  sound interesting.. wanna tell me how it works mate? =)
[09:51] <jinkiez> ubotu: tell me about mp3
[09:51] <irad> yes it is a fresh install
[09:51] <rcaskey_> Rdde: same way basically, you install it and then you edit a single config file
[09:51] <mwe> [TechGuy] : I have no such file either. what's it supposed to be good for?
[09:51] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  localy to a hdd
[09:51] <crimsun> irad: ok, please follow the directions I'm sending you.
[09:51] <rcaskey_> you can also back up to remote hosts over ssh if you set up your keys correctly, but that's another subject
[09:51] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[09:52] <tristanmike> _michael_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:52] <Rdde> rcaskey_, easy to backup some folders to a different hdd ones a week?
[09:52] <irad> oaky
[09:52] <tristanmike> !tell _michael_ about restricted
[09:52] <rcaskey_> Rdde: well...kinda easy
[09:52] <rcaskey_> Rdde: no gui
[09:52] <rebelguys6> Rdde, well, 'man rsync' gives lots of examples, but basicall you would have to write a shell script that lists the rsync commands
[09:52] <crimsun> irad: when following those instructions, if you encounter errors, please execute ``sudo apt-get -f install''. Then, when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure step, answer "yes" to both PnP and debug, and choose the "intel8x0" driver
[09:52] <[TechGuy] > mwe: resolvconf, from what I gather, is supposed to manage resolver DNS configs, etc. Except resolvconf isn't brought up (and the directory created) until after networking starts up. So NICs come up, but without DNS.
[09:53] <rebelguys6> Rdde, and then run the script periodically with a cron job
[09:53] <Rdde> rebelguys6, sound nice, i will give it a try.. thanks mate
[09:53] <mwe> I read kde has problems with gstreamer. I couldn't make it work with kde either
[09:53] <crimsun> BlueHeron: unless it's a life-or-death matter, please keep it in the channel, thanks
[09:53] <haakonn> hi. i recently discovered that flash files in firefox have no sound. they used to have. i don't know what has happened. no sound in mozilla either. any suggestions?
[09:53] <mwe> [TechGuy] : well /etc/resolv.conf is supposed to contain your dns servers
[09:54] <[TechGuy] > ::sighs:: I know that.
[09:54] <mwe> [TechGuy] : /etc/network/interfaces is supposed to contain your interface config
[09:55] <[TechGuy] > mwe, I would prefer someone who knew something about the resolvconf package itself. I am very familiar with the existing way of where things are, thanks.
[09:55] <Newbieee> what that mean? Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Could someone please translate http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10929 into English for me?  I suspect it may be Italian.  Thanks.
[09:55] <Stormx2> How do I restart alsa?
[09:55] <NickGarvey> !alsa
[09:55] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[09:55] <Newbieee> what should I do?
[09:56] <sfar-ubu> is it possible to "move" partitions? my windows partition wont boot and i guess it's because its after my 25GB ubuntu partition..
[09:56] <polpak> Newbieee, sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: what happes when you try to move it?
[09:56] <sfar-ubu> i dont even know how to move it :)
[09:56] <NickGarvey> I ment boot it*
[09:56] <sfar-ubu> grub error 18
[09:57] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  i know it is mutch to ask but there is no way you can send me at least some parts of your script? i havent started jet but i get the feeling i could need it =)
[09:57] <deefzi> wow, first i extracted one .rar to dozens of .zip-files, then all the .zips contained each one .rar-file, which had to be extracted for one .gz-file.
[09:57] <sfar-ubu> "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area."
[09:57] <deefzi> talk about perversed file compression
[09:57] <rebelguys6> sure rdde
[09:57] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: woo what did you do
[09:58] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  really nice of you mate
[09:58] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: from what that says it seems that it wants the partition to be in the space 1-10, but instead is in the space 2-11
[09:58] <sfar-ubu> Hm.. okay, is that fixable?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> his generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general).
[09:59] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: when did this error start happening?
[09:59] <av8> does anyone know much about windows logon script?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> 'Try an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range). "
[10:00] <sfar-ubu> after i installed windows.. then i tried to recover grub acoording to the guide on the wiki.. that didnt work so i reinstalled ubuntu instead :)
[10:00] <_michael_> faad -w infile.m4a | lame -h - outfile.mp3   is for one file, how can I do it with the same name into a different directory for multiple fiiles?
[10:00] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection
[10:00] <NickGarvey> I know its gentoo but should still have some helpful info
[10:00] <NickGarvey> do you know how to update your bios?
[10:00] <tment> Hey guys, do you think that dapper flight 5 will run smoothly on a P2 400mhz 96mb ram laptop?
[10:00] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[10:00] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:01] <av8> i need some help with windows login script to keep track of the username, login time and logout time from the domain..
[10:01] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  im doing the backup of pictures that is loded from my windows computer over samba.. this isnt a problem is it?
[10:01] <NickGarvey> av8: mm I think #windows would be your best bet
[10:01] <crimsun> tment: 96 MB is pushing it; you want more RAM.
[10:01] <av8> thanks nick
[10:01] <looksaus> anyone gotten simplebackup to work?
[10:01] <sfar-ubu> NickGarvey, this is a pretty old computer.. can i see wich bios i have in bios?
[10:01] <rebelguys6> rdde, if you can read the files it should be fine
[10:01] <cyb0rg> eh .. I see everyobody's MAD about Ubuntu. What does Ubuntu bring extra than Debian ? Or is it simply designed to be easier on the noobies than Debian ?
[10:01] <BlueHeron> tment, smoothly .. probably now
[10:01] <BlueHeron> tment, not*
[10:02] <looksaus> I'm trying to get it working with passwordless ssh key auth
[10:02] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  nice, proably best to not have any compression..? do you use compression?
[10:02] <tment> Ayt. I'll still try though. Runs nice with Celeron 400 128.
[10:02] <NickGarvey> sfar-ubu: I bet thats why, well you could open it up, although going into setup when your computer is booting should do it
[10:02] <patrick52222> what would /dev/sda be
[10:02] <looksaus> ssh key auth works, in nautilus as well as in a terminal, but not within simplebackup...
[10:02] <BlueHeron> whats the best way to backup a full breezy installation ?
[10:03] <Rdde> rebelguys6,  can you send me the script matE?
[10:03] <sfar-ubu> NickGarvey, thanks.. ill have a look :>
[10:04] <kingspawn> BlueHeron: dd :)
[10:05] <zezu> crimsun, that worked thanks
[10:05] <crimsun> zezu: excellent.
[10:05] <fredodido> Hi could anyone help me in configuration my Wifi connexion?
[10:05] <patrick52222> how do i format a usb hdd
[10:05] <patrick52222> on ubuntu
[10:06] <Nick-Atis> are viruses / spyware a problem on Linux?
[10:06] <crimsun> patrick52222: the same way you'd format any mass storage. Use mkfs.
[10:06] <polpak> Nick-Atis, nope
[10:06] <Nick-Atis> and if so, what is used to combat them?
[10:06] <patrick52222> where do i get that
[10:06] <polpak> Nick-Atis, I think there's a program called Clam-AV that is used as an anti-virus app
[10:06] <fredodido> I need to set up to configuration one with a WPA key and an other without any Key
[10:06] <Nick-Atis> polpak: I figured there wouldn't be a lot of that to deal with
[10:07] <polpak> Nick-Atis, but there really aren't any in the wild
[10:07] <fredodido> Does anyone know how to create 2 profiles for this?
[10:07] <Shrdlu> Hey, noob question -- I installed the JDK using a self-extracting bin from Sun's site, but I accidentally put it in ~ instead of /usr/local/ like I meant to.  Is there any easy way to move it?
[10:07] <polpak> patrick52222, it's installed already
[10:07] <Shrdlu> I mean, I could just move the whole tree, but I feel like that'd probably break something.
[10:07] <DJ_Tobias> all monitors can use the DVI output of a video card right?
[10:07] <polpak> !tell Shrdlu about java
[10:07] <_jason> Shrdlu: you should just use the already made debs
[10:07] <xerophyte> is there any open source solution like this one http://www.dualdesk.com/ ??
[10:07] <itay> Hi, does anyone know which file should I download to install Skype on Ubuntu?
[10:07] <DJ_Tobias> !tell DJ_Tobias about DVI
[10:08] <polpak> !tell xerophyte about skype
[10:08] <harm__> i have an extreem slow speed with bittoret
[10:08] <harisund> hello everyone. I am trying to understand what a frame buffer is, and more particularly, for laptops should framebuffers be enabled or disabled? whats the difference, or does the end user see no particular difference?
[10:08] <_jason> Shrdlu: actually... is jdk the same as sdk?
[10:08] <harm__> like on windows with bitcomet i can get 150KB/s easy but now i have 0.25kb/s
[10:08] <Talon> hey... anyone know anything about pci cards with ubuntu
[10:09] <predius_> Talon: what kind of pci cards?
[10:09] <Shrdlu> _jason: Same basic idea.  JDK is Sun's Java SDK.
[10:09] <Talon> bcm43xx
[10:09] <polpak> harm__, are you using a firewall/router device w/ your broadband connection?
[10:09] <DJ_Tobias> Talon, what do you mean pci cards with ubuntu? What kind!
[10:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell Shrdlu about javadebs
[10:09] <Shrdlu> polpak: I got that, thanks. The point is I screwed up and installed it in the wrong place, and now trying to recover from that.
[10:09] <xerophyte> polpak,  ???
[10:09] <Talon> well i cant even get it to turn on
[10:09] <predius_> Talon: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[10:09] <Talon> i just started using unix 2 days ago so i am fairly new at this
[10:09] <Talon> yeahi used that predius
[10:09] <polpak> Shrdlu, just rm the directory from your home and install the java deb, or follow the wiki instructions
[10:10] <_jason> Shrdlu: I would just remove that and use the deb from seveas' site
[10:10] <rebelguys6> harisund, framebuffers are for console mode to enable higher resolutions. It's nice to have.
[10:10] <polpak> xerophyte, did you ready the url ubotu sent you?
[10:10] <rebelguys6> but not completely necessaryt
[10:10] <harisund> Oh thanks rebelguy ..
[10:10] <Shrdlu> So I can just rm it without worrying about breaking any symlinks or anything?
[10:10] <harm__> polpak i have it on my router
[10:10] <Okay> ndiswrapper is only for wifi driver or for all windows drivers?
[10:10] <harm__> good point hold on :P
[10:10] <NickGarvey> hmm I think so oK
[10:10] <rebelguys6> Okay, only wifi
[10:10] <NickGarvey> Okay: *
[10:10] <Nick-Atis> okay, here's a fun question. Feel free to participate if you want, if not, nevermind
[10:10] <harisund> so rebelguy, do you suggest I simply go ahead without a framebuffer?
[10:10] <Talon> my quesion is when i went the to the devices file . then the pci file the state says 0 wich means off right?
[10:10] <Nick-Atis> what are the top 5 coolest applications on Linux?
[10:10] <Okay> thx, rebelguys6
[10:10] <NickGarvey> apache
[10:11] <rebelguys6> harisund, oh, well you should include it, becuase its also used for boot splash screens
[10:11] <polpak> Nick-Atis, lol, for server or desktop?
[10:11] <Shrdlu> Cause I mean, it's easy to just delete it, I just want to make sure that won't screw anything up if it's expected to be there.
[10:11] <harm__> urm..
[10:11] <Nick-Atis> desktop
[10:11] <harisund> Ah .. I see.. ok cool.. will do that then..
[10:11] <Nick-Atis> because that's what  use
[10:11] <NickGarvey> oh well um
[10:11] <xerophyte> polpak, i know skype
[10:11] <NickGarvey> gaim
[10:11] <xerophyte> polpak, i am not looking for skype
[10:11] <harm__> whats a good bittorent client? i normally use bitcomet or utorrent..
[10:11] <harisund> And Nick-Atis, do you mea particularly Linux software? Ones that don't work on Windows?
[10:11] <_jason> Shrdlu: even if some symlinks do get broken, they should get fixed when you install the deb. That's what I assume anyway
[10:11] <frederik> I'm a Linux newbie. I installed Ubuntu earlier today. Now I've reached the point where I need to edit a file that's write-protected and owned by root. What's the smart way to do this? I read something about sudo, but I thought I might ask in here. Thx for your answers
[10:11] <harm__> but since those arnt linux..
[10:11] <Talon> if the state of my pci card is 0  need to change it to 1 but even when i log in as root it says i do not have permission to change the file
[10:11] <Shrdlu> _jason: Okay, I'll give it a shot.  Thanks. :)
[10:11] <Nick-Atis> harisund: yeah
[10:12] <NickGarvey> frederik: sudo gedit "file"
[10:12] <polpak> frederik, sudo gedit /path/to/file
[10:12] <harm__> frederik .. sudo vi /FILELOCATIOn
[10:12] <NickGarvey> hmm vi might be a bit much harm__
[10:12] <Bowsa> hello
[10:12] <harm__> ah ok :)
[10:12] <polpak> harm__, lol, don't recommend vi to linux newbs ;p
[10:12] <frederik> heh, I've seen vi. I'll use gedit, thank you very much :)
[10:12] <polpak> harm__, at the very least use nano
[10:12] <harm__> well thats what i got when i startedout
[10:12] <Bowsa> anyone know how i can get cedega to install
[10:12] <soundray> frederik: hit Alt-F2 and enter "gksudo gedit /path/file" (better than earlier recommendations)
[10:12] <harm__> debian net install so yah..
[10:12] <frederik> Exactly. VI reminded me of edlin, if anyone remembers that
[10:12] <NickGarvey> yeah same with me harm__
[10:13] <soundray> frederik: now that's grossly unfair ;)
[10:13] <irad> crimsun: how long have you been using linux?
[10:13] <harm__> it was like.. here u go a do it yourself linux.. and i was like. D00d wtf where is my desktop!?
[10:13] <frederik> sorry ^
[10:13] <crimsun> irad: since '95
[10:13] <polpak> Nick-Atis, really the question is what sorts of things do you want to do on your linux desktop
[10:13] <harm__> and there was no desktop :(
[10:13] <frederik> ^^
[10:13] <Nick-Atis> lol
[10:13] <irad> so that's why you know all those stuff hehe
[10:13] <irad> how old are you?
[10:13] <Stormx2> 5
[10:13] <esc_ape> how can I scan what ports are open?
[10:13] <crimsun> irad: please migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:13] <esc_ape> without using shields up
[10:14] <NickGarvey> esc_ape: nmap
[10:14] <Nick-Atis> I was just trying to get everyone elses oppinions to see what they do with their systems and find out about interesting stuff
[10:14] <irad> hehe okay
[10:14] <DBO> esc_ape, nmap
[10:14] <NickGarvey> esc_ape: thats what I use
[10:14] <soundray> frederik, vi is well designed - just takes getting used to. Nobody ever got used to edlin...
[10:14] <DBO> doh... too slow
[10:14] <Stormx2> hey everyone by the way  how's it going?
[10:14] <polpak> esc_ape, on your local computer, or a remote host?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !nmap
[10:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[10:14] <esc_ape> what would be full commend for nmap?
[10:14] <esc_ape> polpak - my local comp
[10:14] <polpak> esc_ape, dont' use nmap
[10:14] <esc_ape> *command
[10:14] <frederik> I sure didn't. However, I did manage to delete a lot of lines unintendidly :S
[10:14] <Nick-Atis> not as like a definitive list
[10:14] <polpak> esc_ape, just netstat -an | grep LISTEN
[10:14] <DBO> esc_ape, nmap <IP TO SCAN>
[10:14] <frederik> *dedly
[10:14] <harm__> could some one recommend me a good low resource-hoggin bittorent client(not default on nor azeraus)
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !nmap is a network scanning tool, http://www.insecure.org/nmap/index.html
[10:14] <ubotu> okay, NickGarvey
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !nmap
[10:14] <ubotu> nmap is probably a network scanning tool, http://www.insecure.org/nmap/index.html
[10:15] <soundray> !info nmap
[10:15] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[10:15] <tofou34> hello
[10:15] <NickGarvey> hello
[10:16] <tofou34> first time I chat on this channel. You ?
[10:16] <twirpie> do pc games work with linux?
[10:16] <mds\> ack.  I hate being a newb
[10:16] <polpak> Nick-Atis, oh, well I use Jedit &  Glade for programming, Xchat for chatting, gimp and inkscape for drawing, blender for 3d modeling, wine for gaming
[10:16] <NickGarvey> !games
[10:16] <harm__> twirpie they do but not by defaul
[10:16] <ubotu> games is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[10:16] <polpak> twirpie, some do, some don't
[10:16] <twirpie> how?
[10:16] <NickGarvey> mds\: time my friend time :-P
[10:16] <harm__> wine and cedega
[10:16] <polpak> twirpie, wine or cedega
[10:17] <NickGarvey> !tell twirpie about cedega
[10:17] <irad> crimsun: okay done all of those things you told me
[10:17] <harm__> cedega costs money which is very uncool
[10:17] <twirpie> man seems nothing is compatable with linux :(
[10:17] <mds\> thanks NickGarvey..  I know but it's soo damn cool and I feel so inept lol
[10:17] <polpak> harm__, costing money isn't terribly uncool, it's their lack of support for their roots (the wine project) that urks me
[10:18] <tofou34> is anyone use sunbird on ubuntu ?
[10:18] <crimsun> irad: has that process completed successfully?
[10:18] <polpak> twirpie, savage, and savage2 are native
[10:18] <irad> yeah
[10:18] <polpak> twirpie, ut2004, quake, and Neverwinter Nights are native
[10:18] <crimsun> irad: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/{cards,version}''
[10:19] <tristanmike> twirpie: Doom3 is native
[10:19] <twirpie> native?
[10:19] <harm__> i wish cs1.6 is.. iam going to learn howto install it later today :| not appy about that thought
[10:19] <tristanmike> twirpie: made for
[10:19] <polpak> twirpie, runs without cedega or wine
[10:19] <Stormx2> sunbird... hmm... what is that?
[10:19] <twirpie> oh so how do i run quake?
[10:19] <irad> 0 [I82801BAICH2   ] : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[10:19] <irad>                      Intel 82801BA-ICH2 with AD1881A at 0x1400, irq 5
[10:19] <irad> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[10:19] <irad> Compiled on Mar 27 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !paste
[10:19] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:19] <Stormx2> !sunbird
[10:19] <ubotu> Stormx2: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <polpak> !quake
[10:19] <ubotu> polpak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <tristanmike> twirpie: buy it :)
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !info quake
[10:19] <twirpie> lol
[10:19] <crimsun> irad: please use pastebin next time.
[10:19] <polpak> hrm..
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !info quake2
[10:19] <_michael_> 'faad -w infile.m4a | lame -h - outfile.mp3' changes one at a time, how can i change a few at a time?
[10:19] <ubotu> quake2: (improved version of id Software's Quake II engine), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1240 kB, Installed size: 3144 kB
[10:19] <irad> oh, i thought that 4 lines isn't alot
[10:19] <irad> sorry
[10:19] <tofou34> mozilla sunbird
[10:20] <esc_ape> argh...this does not makes sense..!
[10:20] <sfar-ubu> get quake here: ftp://ftp.yi.se/pub/software/equake/
[10:20] <tristanmike> twirpie: you can get America's Army, and Enemy Territory for free
[10:20] <Stormx2> tofou34: Let me take a looky for you. Whats the problem?
[10:20] <sfar-ubu> (not warez)
[10:20] <harm__> quake1? or 3?
[10:20] <crimsun> irad: ``sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''
[10:20] <sfar-ubu> quake 1 of course :)
[10:20] <NickGarvey> irad: normally its not, but because this channel is always packed anything more than 2 lines is usually too much
[10:20] <twirpie> i got enemy territory but how do i run the thing? :)
[10:20] <Bowsa> can someone tell me what a tgz file is for
[10:21] <harm__> its like a linux .zip
[10:21] <polpak> !quake4 is Quake 4 runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[10:21] <harm__> bowsa
[10:21] <ubotu> okay, polpak
[10:21] <Bowsa> ah
[10:21] <polpak> !quake4
[10:21] <ubotu> it has been said that quake4 is Quake 4 runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[10:21] <tofou34> I dowloaded the archive file but I don't know how to install the software
[10:21] <tristanmike> twirpie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy
[10:21] <soundray> Bowsa it's a package format for the Slackware distribution
[10:21] <irad> okay sorry next time i won't do it
[10:21] <irad> crimsun: done that
[10:21] <engla> Bowsa: you should be able to double-click it and browse it/extract
[10:21] <niki> are there any good MMORPG's for linux?
[10:21] <crimsun> irad: now use a volume control/alsamixer to unmute and to adjust the appropriate volumes
[10:21] <polpak> !quake is Quake is available for linux.. See http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO.html for details
[10:21] <ubotu> polpak: I think you lost me on that one
[10:22] <polpak> !quake
[10:22] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, polpak
[10:22] <polpak> !quake is Quake is available for linux.. See http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO.html for details
[10:22] <harm__> ok we get the quake stuff =X
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> is there an executable Apache/MySQL/PHP/PHPMyAdmin etc installation for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <irad> crimsun: why does it have to be so complicated?
[10:22] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: well not that easy
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> :-(
[10:22] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: like not auto like that, but its trivial to install those
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> I love my easy quick installers for windows
[10:22] <crimsun> irad: because it's breezy. Hopefully it's not an issue in dapper because of newer drivers.
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> oh
[10:22] <Nick-Atis> good
[10:23] <Rayman> good evening. is hosting a VLC server how resource expensive? the computer is a P II and I don't want to kill it.
[10:23] <W8TAH> Quick question folks -- new install of breezy  -- im trying to compile gpredict (the new version) i installed Gcc and automake -- what else needs to be installed to let me install stuff?
[10:23] <Nick-Atis> I just use them for local testing
[10:23] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 php4
[10:23] <engla> W8TAH: build-essential has the essential stuff :)
[10:23] <NickGarvey> !info build-essentials
[10:23] <irad> oh go it hehe
[10:23] <irad> got*
[10:23] <NickGarvey> I remember the good ole days when I could spell
[10:23] <engla> W8TAH: other things could be needed, ./configure should give you a clue
[10:23] <W8TAH> engla, ok -- thanks
[10:23] <NickGarvey> !info build-essential
[10:23] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[10:23] <_jason> W8TAH: you should generally install stuff from the repos instead of compiling
[10:23] <polpak> !lamp
[10:23] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:23] <twirpie> where can i get a list of available games for linux?
[10:23] <NickGarvey> !games
[10:24] <ubotu> methinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[10:24] <W8TAH> _jason, i agree, however the new version is not in the repos yet
[10:24] <NickGarvey> I think gamelist is what you are looking for twirpie
[10:24] <_jason> W8TAH: ah ok
[10:24] <twirpie> ok where?
[10:24] <harm__> twirpie http://linux-gamers.org/
[10:24] <irad> okay done no music
[10:24] <polpak> !tell twirpie about games
[10:24] <irad> listen i have in the configure of the engine in my amarok
[10:24] <irad> a place called : device
[10:25] <irad> do i need to do anything there maybe?
[10:25] <mds\> w
[10:25] <frederik> I tried with "gksudo gedit /thepath/thefile.ext" but the file opened was empty. Running in command line, I get the following message: "None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." What do I do wrong?
[10:25] <W8TAH> Thanks folks - build essentials is installing now
[10:25] <polpak> !tell Nick-Atis about lamp
[10:25] <elvyn> hola quien habla espanol
[10:25] <twirpie> thank you
[10:25] <elvyn> tengo un problemita
[10:26] <harm__> frederik just do sudo gedit /location
[10:26] <elvyn> en ubuntu
[10:26] <mds\> When I have to manually install progs, is putting them in /usr/lib and then linking from /usr/local/bin the ubuntu way?
[10:26] <polpak> !es
[10:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:26] <soundray> frederik: the user you are logged in as has to have admin rights.
[10:26] <irad> !he
[10:26] <ubotu> irad: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:26] <frederik> he has / I have
[10:26] <harm__> .. soundray u bypass that with sudo
[10:26] <Nick-Atis> thanks polpak
[10:26] <polpak> mds\, what do you mean "manually install progs"
[10:26] <harm__> frederik where is the file located? and sometimes files are empty
[10:26] <frederik> I haven't changed much and it was the first user, I created, during install
[10:26] <soundray> frederik: just type "groups" in a terminal to see whether you are in the admin group.
[10:26] <crimsun> irad: you can leave it at "default" if you're referring to the gstreamer engine's alsasink properties
[10:27] <mds\> like ff 1.5, I just extracted the tar and put the folder in /usr/lib
[10:27] <polpak> mds\,
[10:27] <NickGarvey> !ff1.5
[10:27] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:27] <polpak> !tell mds\ about ff1.5
[10:27] <irad>
[10:27] <irad> okay
[10:27] <soundray> frederik: what file are you trying to edit?
[10:27] <irad> it's still not playing music, just show that it's playing blank music
[10:27] <mds\> thanks polpak
[10:28] <VincentMX> hi
[10:28] <frederik> harm (I can't pms you since I haven't authed with freenode): I found the file via the browser in the "alt+F2" thing, so the path should be good
[10:28] <Nick-Atis> is there a notification area application with shortcuts for MySQL, Apache and PHP tasks and files?
[10:28] <polpak> Nick-Atis, not sure what you mean?
[10:28] <frederik> I'm trying to edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file for wpa-encryption to my access-point
[10:29] <Nick-Atis> in Windows, many of the packaged installations (like WAMP) put an icon in the tray for starting/stopping apache/mysql and links to the config files
[10:29] <frederik> Is there a keybard-shortcut for a terminal window, by the way?
[10:29] <soundray> frederik: wpa_supplicant is not really the easiest thing to start with as you learn ubuntu...
[10:29] <skypa> greetings
[10:29] <Nick-Atis> is there anything like that for Linux?
[10:29] <NickGarvey> frederik: you can set one
[10:29] <skypa> is there a ubuntu installer which is capable of installing to a nfs mount? :)
[10:30] <stimpie> does someone know a AIX2 softphone for linux?
[10:30] <soundray> frederik: no, but you can make one in System-Preferences-Shortcuts
[10:30] <harm__> er.. just wondering in xmms i closed the play windows.. so its all hiden now.. how do hell do i get it back?
[10:30] <frederik> soundray, You are probably right. However, I have good guides, some flair and lots of patience :)
[10:30] <NickGarvey> harm__: go to a terminal and type fg xmms
[10:30] <soundray> frederik: Keyboard shortcuts that is.
[10:30] <darko> hello
[10:30] <Karlprof> Umm.
[10:30] <michel41> hello! can you french?
[10:30] <darko> someone can help
[10:30] <darko> me?
[10:30] <harm__> thx nickgarvey :p
[10:30] <irad> i also try playing files in xmms and the same problem appear
[10:30] <Karlprof> What's "ubuntu-desktop"?
[10:30] <frederik> Yeah, I got that one. Thanks
[10:30] <VincentMX> I've made w batch file in windows, and i'm trying to make a linux version of it so i can use it in linux as well, but what i don't know any equalivents for GOTO and :SOMETHING
[10:30] <NickGarvey> Nick-Atis: I don't know?  I think google is your best bet
[10:30] <soundray> frederik: can you do a 'cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' - that'll just dump the file contents in the terminal.
[10:30] <Karlprof> I'm assuming it isn't the... ubuntu... desktop... because that wouldn't be uninstalled along with Samba, would it?
[10:31] <soundray> frederik: if there is any.
[10:31] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: mm yes it is
[10:31] <polpak> Nick-Atis, the start-stop scripts are in /etc/init.d
[10:31] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: doing apt-get remove samba?
[10:31] <Karlprof> Something like that.
[10:31] <NickGarvey> darko: what can we do for you?
[10:31] <frederik> soundray, yeah, the cat dumps the file alright
[10:31] <harm__> OMG i hate this song and nickgarvey it isnt stopping or anything.. NOooo
[10:31] <crimsun> irad: can you hear anything with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[10:31] <gfxstyler> hi
[10:31] <irad> haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:31] <irad> omg crimsun
[10:31] <NickGarvey> harm__: oh, then type "killall xmms"
[10:32] <darko> how can i active my root
[10:32] <irad> i plugged it into the wrong place
[10:32] <gfxstyler> darko: why you want to do that
[10:32] <NickGarvey> !tell darko about root
[10:32] <irad> i thought so!
[10:32] <irad> hehehe
[10:32] <crimsun> irad: heh.
[10:32] <gfxstyler> darko: anyway, you can do that with "sudo passwd root"
[10:32] <Karlprof> NickGarvey, so is it actually possible to wipe samba without buggering things up?
[10:32] <darko> yea
[10:32] <soundray> frederik: see if you can open the file read-only in gedit, by entering the command without (gk)sudo
[10:32] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: let me try
[10:32] <darko> but when i type my password
[10:32] <Karlprof> (Ubuntu-desktop sounds important. Very important.)
[10:32] <darko> i cant login
[10:32] <darko> somthing like i access dinied
[10:33] <darko> or frong password
[10:33] <_jason> Karlprof: it's just a meta-package, safe to remove
[10:33] <gfxstyler> you have to type in the correct password
[10:33] <soundray> Karlprof: it's just a collection of dependencies, really. Important only when you upgrade.
[10:33] <skypa> no one aware of a ubuntu installer which is capable of installing to a nfs mount instead of a harddisk? :)
[10:33] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: whats your command?
[10:33] <skypa> *local harddisk
[10:33] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: apt-get remove samba is fine for me
[10:33] <soundray> !nfsinstall
[10:33] <frederik> soundray, I can
[10:33] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, soundray
[10:33] <Nick-Atis> how is Ruby on Rails installation on Ubuntu?
[10:34] <Nick-Atis> easy?
[10:34] <NickGarvey> !ruby
[10:34] <ubotu> ruby is probably an object oriented programming/scripting language born in Japan. You can download it at the command line by sudo apt-get install ruby1.8.
[10:34] <soundray> frederik: you could now make your changes, then save the file temporarily in your home or on your desktop, then try to copy it to /etc/ with sudo cp
[10:34] <Karlprof> Nick, being ever so slightly on the nooby side... I'm in Synaptic.
[10:34] <lzap> !python
[10:34] <ubotu> [python]  an easy-to-learn yet powerful programming language! http://www.python.org/
[10:34] <gfxstyler> !c++
[10:34] <lzap> !google
[10:34] <ubotu> I heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[10:34] <NickGarvey> Karlprof: ah, I have never opened synaptic, wonder what its like
[10:34] <Nick-Atis> wow
[10:34] <lzap> !ubotu
[10:34] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:34] <BlueHeron> i wonder if
[10:35] <BlueHeron> you hit sudo rm -r /*
[10:35] <BlueHeron> would it work ?
[10:35] <Karlprof> Samba-common -> 'complete removal' -> Warning: Must remove something, something else and ubuntu desktop.
[10:35] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: don't do that
[10:35] <Nick-Atis> I should just put an ! before anything I'm thinking of asking about first
[10:35] <NickGarvey> BlueHeron: good chance of it.. be careful with sudo
[10:35] <BlueHeron> gfxstyler, i won't lol
[10:35] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: better is sudo rm -r -f /* :P
[10:35] <Nick-Atis> I seem to be underestimating ubotu's knowledge
[10:35] <soundray> BlueHeron: only if you add an f (rm -rf)
[10:35] <BlueHeron> i'm making a full backup now was just wondering if it works both ways.
[10:35] <BlueHeron> soundray, whats the f
[10:35] <rebelguys6> force
[10:35] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: force
[10:35] <BlueHeron> i see
[10:35] <gfxstyler> damn
[10:35] <gfxstyler> you were faster
[10:35] <gfxstyler> :P
[10:35] <soundray> BlueHeron: force removal of non-empty directories
[10:35] <BlueHeron> so the system would crash ?
[10:36] <rebelguys6> i didn't have to type BlueHeron
[10:36] <BlueHeron> or wouldn't reboot or what
[10:36] <rebelguys6> :)
[10:36] <gfxstyler> BlueHeron: i did that once
[10:36] <gfxstyler> no good
[10:36] <soundray> BlueHeron: it would not boot again.
[10:36] <darko> NickGarvey, i have problem i cant open update window
[10:36] <BlueHeron> damn lol
[10:36] <NickGarvey> darko: what update?
[10:36] <BlueHeron> im making a complete backup now :-)
[10:36] <darko> i have typed my root password but still nothing
[10:36] <frederik> soundray, when I try to type in gedit in a read-only file, the caret just stands still
[10:36] <VincentMX> I've made w batch file in windows, and i'm trying to make a linux version of it so i can use it in linux as well, but what i don't know any equalivents for GOTO and :SOMETHING. anybody can help me?
[10:36] <darko> to upadate my packs
[10:36] <BlueHeron> i love how in linux a complete backup is only 2 commands, one to make it one to restore it
[10:36] <NickGarvey> darko: use your user password
[10:36] <darko> yea
[10:36] <soundray> frederik: save it to your home directory first, then try to edit.
[10:36] <darko> but still nothing
[10:36] <NickGarvey> BlueHeron: (how do you back up things like that?)
[10:37] <frederik> soundray, ahh, will do
[10:37] <BlueHeron> NickGarvey, one sec
[10:37] <darko> NickGarvey, i recive message with you dont have permision or your root password is invalid
[10:37] <NickGarvey> darko: sure you are using the right password?
[10:37] <rebelguys6> VincentMX, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[10:37] <VincentMX> thnx
[10:37] <darko> NickGarvey, yes
[10:37] <darko> NickGarvey, i know what password i have set.
[10:37] <NickGarvey> darko: did you sudo passwd root?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> and try to reset?
[10:38] <frederik> soundray, it seems sudo (instead of gksudo) did the job
[10:38] <BlueHeron> NickGarvey, i sent you a PM
[10:38] <evilbulgarian> whats the way to display the hostname in the motd file ?
[10:38] <BlueHeron> evilbulgarian, cat
[10:38] <darko> yes
[10:38] <BlueHeron> evilbulgarian, cat /etc/hosts or cat /etc/hostname
[10:38] <soundray> frederik: there is a slight risk in using sudo for a graphical program like gedit
[10:38] <frederik> soundray, what's the risk?
[10:38] <BlueHeron> your system can die
[10:38] <soundray> frederik, in that it can hang and become invisible.
[10:38] <evilbulgarian> so it will actually execute a command or do i use ` `
[10:39] <soundray> frederik: then you won't be able to start another sudo (or gksudo) session.
[10:39] <seejay> hi, I am trying to upgrade to Dapper and I get an error "Kernel version too old." when installing initramfs-tools, lots of stuff depends on this which is casuing problems for me
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> Do I dare attempt WPA with Breezy or should I just wait it out?
[10:39] <polpak> !dapper
[10:39] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:39] <soundray> frederik: it sounds contrived, but has happened.
[10:39] <frederik> soundray, as in never-ever?
[10:39] <darko> NickGarvey, can i paste here?
[10:40] <polpak> darko, no
[10:40] <NickGarvey> !pastebin
[10:40] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[10:40] <polpak> !tell darko about pastebin
[10:40] <darko> ok
[10:40] <Tom-Soja> Hi
[10:40] <Tic0> Does ubuntu support the Ralink RT61 or known as RT2600?
[10:40] <soundray> frederik: if you do sudo nano, you'll get an editor within the terminal which is reasonably friendly, too.
[10:40] <Tom-Soja> Download Kubuntu 5.10 (breezy)<- is this stable?
[10:40] <polpak> Tom-Soja, yes
[10:40] <harm__> xmms is the shitties looking player ever
[10:40] <frederik> soundray, sounds like a good alternative, thanks
[10:40] <harm__> Breezy is stable
[10:40] <gfxstyler> harm__: try beep-media-player
[10:40] <harm__> Tom-Soja yes it is
[10:40] <Tom-Soja> good, thank you
[10:40] <gfxstyler> harm__: its like xmms but better and nicer
[10:40] <NickGarvey> !tell harm__ about bmp
[10:40] <harm__> beter as in more filesupport?
[10:41] <Tic0> Anyone using a Ralink rt61/rt2600 wireless card?
[10:41] <soundray> Tic0: there is a kernel module rt61 in dapper.
[10:41] <Tom-Soja> i think i replace knoppix with ubuntu
[10:41] <NickGarvey> Tom-Soja: :) try the live cd if you are unsure
[10:41] <Tic0> sound i can detect it in dapper latest beta but it wont work
[10:41] <polpak> Tom-Soja, certainly has a larger, more friendly userbase
[10:41] <JackRazz> does dapper-drake use XFree 3.3 or 4.x series...I'm trying to set up ubuntu under vmware to use my intellimouse
[10:41] <ubuntu_> can i resize ntfs partition in ubutntu
[10:41] <JackRazz> which config should i be editing
[10:41] <NickGarvey> !tell JackRazz about dapper
[10:41] <crimsun> JackRazz: neither. X.Org 7.0
[10:41] <Tom-Soja> i have some experience with ubuntu i like it
[10:42] <soundray> Tic0: I see. Sry I haven't got the hardware to test it here.
[10:42] <soundray> Tic0: is it a USB device?
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> I followed the instructions for disabling the synaptic touchpad, yet mine still works absolutely fine
[10:42] <polpak> ubuntu_, for some reason I have problems resizing ntfs using the breezy live CD. You can do it with knoppix though
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> any ideas on how to get rid of it?
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> (without tearing it out...)
[10:42] <polpak> Nick-Atis, did you restart X ?
[10:42] <JackRazz> hey crimsun so i should be editing x.org?
[10:42] <soundray> Nick-Atis: tpconfig
[10:42] <Tic0> Im on dialup  for that pc till i can figure it out. Was hoping for someone to have the same type of chipset here.
[10:42] <soundray> !info tpconfig
[10:42] <JackRazz> xorg.config
[10:42] <ubotu> tpconfig: (configure touchpad devices), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 3.1.3-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 57 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[10:42] <Nick-Atis> polpak: yep
[10:42] <darko> NickGarvey, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10931
[10:43] <darko> i have typed my root password
[10:43] <darko> but still nothing
[10:43] <JackRazz> crimsun, should I edit Xorg.config???
[10:43] <soundray> Tic0: how is that wireless card connected?
[10:44] <Tic0> Sound: i have a router on a different pc. But the pc with the wireless card is upstairs.
[10:44] <Nick-Atis> JackRazz: are you comfortable with Shell commands?
[10:44] <Stormx2> Hiya
[10:44] <Nick-Atis> because if you make a mistake, that's all you'll be able to do
[10:44] <JackRazz> if thats what I need to do
[10:44] <Newbieee> where I can find ndiswrapper-utils in synaptic?
[10:44] <roxanne> I'm using xubuntu on my computer, and it is fast enough but does not have enough bells an whistles, anyone have suggestions for a distro?
[10:44] <Tic0> i already tried 2 wifi cards i own the Acx111 and the rt61. Both are detected neither seem to connect.
[10:44] <NickGarvey> darko: sudo passwd root didn't prompt you for anything?
[10:44] <ubuntu_> is it possible to convert a ntfs drive which has stuff on and still have it after its converted or does it delete it
[10:44] <darko> nothing
[10:44] <NickGarvey> roxanne: kubuntu?
[10:44] <JackRazz> which script do i need to run?
[10:44] <darko> NickGarvey, thats all
[10:45] <polpak> roxanne, or just ubuntu
[10:45] <NickGarvey> darko: odd.. I think this is out of my range, not sure why that happens
[10:45] <Stormx2> roxanne: You mean apps?
[10:45] <polpak> roxanne, what bells and whistles are you missing? you can just install them piecemeal
[10:45] <darko> NickGarvey, i cant install gcc or other stuff
[10:45] <Nick-Atis> JackRazz: if you're trying to add an input device, I think you just need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:45] <NickGarvey> !forums
[10:45] <Nick-Atis> and add an input device segment
[10:45] <roxanne> kubuntu? do i use the synaptic package manager to get that one?
[10:45] <NickGarvey> !forum
[10:45] <ubotu> from memory, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:45] <Nick-Atis> you'll have to download the drivers
[10:45] <NickGarvey> I'd try there darko, I'm not sure
[10:45] <JackRazz> ok, I'll check that out Nick, thanks
[10:46] <Nick-Atis> and I'm not really sure how to all of that works
[10:46] <soundray> Tic0: is it a USB device? A PCI card? A PCMCIA card?
[10:46] <Stormx2> roxanne: Yes. "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:46] <Tic0> Pci
[10:46] <roxanne> Bells an whistles like no icons on my desktop
[10:46] <Stormx2> roxanne: Or indeed use Synaptic to install kubuntu-desktop
[10:46] <NickGarvey> !forums 5153
[10:46] <Tic0> the usb is a rt73 i think they call it
[10:46] <Nick-Atis> but search for xorg.conf and there is plenty of information on google to help you not destroy anything
[10:46] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 5153 is: jdodsons list of uber linux games! - Ubuntu Forums
[10:46] <skypa> is there a channel for a little more.. err.. let's say technically advanced ubuntu questions?
[10:46] <darko> ok thanks anyway
[10:46] <darko> bye
[10:46] <ubuntu_> is it possible to convert a ntfs drive which has stuff on and still have the stuff after its converted or does it delete it
[10:46] <Stormx2> roxanne: You can use the gnome desktop by running "nautilus"
[10:46] <NickGarvey> skypa: you might want ##linux
[10:46] <soundray> Tic0: right now you have the rt61 PCI card installed, correct?
[10:46] <Nick-Atis> just be ready to edit xorg.conf in vim from a shell if you make a mistake
[10:47] <roxanne> stormx2, what is nautilus?
[10:47] <clever> how would i mount a cd iso file and read it as if i burned it to disc?
[10:47] <JackRazz> googling tells me it should be xf86config
[10:47] <Stormx2> roxanne: The GNOME file manager, but it also handles desktop icons
[10:47] <Nick-Atis> and don't delete, comment anything you don't want in there
[10:47] <Tic0> sound: yes in a different pc
[10:47] <skypa> well.. let's have a try here anyways.. : I have a debootstrapped base system here.. how do I get the ubuntu default settings the installer would do?
[10:48] <skypa> *would do=would set
[10:48] <gabbah_ubuntu> kent, har du tid nn minut?
[10:48] <polpak> ubuntu_, you can't change the partition type without losing data from ntfs
[10:48] <sfar-ubu> hej timon
[10:48] <roxanne> stormx2, I'll tell you what i'm looking for exactly if you have a minute.
[10:49] <polpak> roxanne, is there a reason you went with xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[10:49] <Stormx2> roxanne: i do...
[10:49] <Stormx2> roxanne: If you want GNOME or KDE... you can just install em, ya know ;-)
[10:50] <_michael_> sorry, i'm back... i have a command that that needs to use the file name twice, how can i make a script to go through every file and insert it into that command?
[10:50] <NickGarvey> !sed
[10:50] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[10:50] <NickGarvey> ..
[10:50] <IYY> I'm trying to remove the package 'phpmyadmin' using apt-get, and it fails, saying "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127". How do I get rid of it?
[10:51] <NickGarvey> !info sed
[10:51] <ubotu> sed: (The GNU sed stream editor), section base, is required. Version: 4.1.4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 872 kB
[10:51] <soundray> Tic0: the way to do it is to run lspci and see if you have a line that corresponds to the card. There is lots of advice on the wiki as well.
[10:51] <Stormx2> NickGarvey: Ask in bash... they have a clever way
[10:51] <NickGarvey> what am I asking?
[10:51] <Stormx2> Sorry, I meant _michael_
[10:51] <NickGarvey> oh alrighty
[10:51] <Stormx2> _michael_: ask in #bash :P
[10:51] <roxanne> stormx2, I have an old computer, still in the GHZ range with 256MB ram. Ubuntu was really slow. I mean responsive 10 seconds after a mouse click. I got xubuntu and it has been good, but I can't figure how to use my digital camera or iPod. Oh yeah, I also have no burning capacity on my computer.
[10:51] <_michael_> ty\
[10:52] <roxanne> stormx2, If you have suggestions I would be appreciative?
[10:52] <Wolever> Would anyone know how to get the import command working on Ubuntu?  I'm trying to take a screenshot of the GDM login screen with very little success...\
[10:52] <NickGarvey> !ipod
[10:52] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[10:52] <mwe> Wolever: to make a screenshot of gdm you should probably run it in xnest
[10:52] <polpak> _michael_, something like command `ls` -option `ls` might work
[10:53] <Stormx2> roxanne: XFCE is just a Desktop Environment. You can still run any GNOME or KDE apps in it!
[10:53] <soundray> Wolever: there is a procedure if you log in on a text console.
[10:53] <Stormx2> roxanne: iPod you need gtkpod I beleive... not sure about digital cameras
[10:53] <_michael_> ok
[10:53] <Wolever> mwe: Ya, I'm doing that now.... But I wanted to figure out why `import` wasen't there =\
[10:53] <roxanne> okay, so what is my problem? what should I do? help!
[10:54] <polpak> roxanne, install gktpod
[10:54] <mwe> Wolever: because you need to install imagemagick I guess
[10:54] <me2win> roxanne, RUN!!!
[10:54] <Newbieee> helooo how can I see where I instaled Wireless tools???
[10:54] <NickGarvey> !wireless
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:54] <polpak> roxanne,  you just have to find an app that does what you want, and install it
[10:54] <soundray> Wolever: you can do it without imagemagick
[10:54] <roxanne> me2win, I"M RUNNING!
[10:54] <polpak> roxanne, it doesn't matter if it's a gnome or kde app, it will still run
[10:54] <Rayman> roxanne: try searching for gtk based digital camera apps from Synaptic
[10:54] <me2win> roxanne, DONT LOOK BACK!
[10:54] <Rayman> there should be plenty
[10:54] <Wolever> Ah, ok, thanks
[10:56] <Rayman> roxanne: if you wan't to have a GUI AND keep the system responsive, try using as much GTK based apps as possible.
[10:56] <Rayman> that's from what I know, others may know better.
[10:56] <bur[n] er> gthumb == camera app
[10:56] <Newbieee> helooo how can I see where I instaled Wireless tools???
[10:56] <NickGarvey> Newbieee: see what I said
[10:57] <NickGarvey> and Newbieee if you used apt-get, just iwconfig
[10:57] <roxanne> I can run apps, but i need to keep it simple, I'm not a computer fluent person.
[10:57] <Newbieee> NickGarvey but I have already Installed with synaptic
[10:57] <Newbieee> I downloaded with synaptic...
[10:58] <Newbieee> I need to install
[10:58] <roxanne> will I have to run apps every boot?
[10:59] <roxanne> manually?
[10:59] <Newbieee> Could you please tell me?
[10:59] <W8TAH> I am still having trouble trying to get this thing built -- It is now kicking out an error saying cannot find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[10:59] <nook> I try to compile wine using apt-get --build source wine, but After I run it i get plenty of errors kind of"  Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 1000: Operation not permitted". It happens although i'm using sudo. What should I do?
[10:59] <W8TAH> this is on the ./configure phase of gpredict .5
[10:59] <mooed> where it's located the config.gz file in a ubuntu liveCD?
[10:59] <VincentMX> darko, were you the one that posted me that link for that shellscripting page? i can't scroll up any further :S. anyways, it doesn't say anything about something that looks like GOTO and :SOMETHING
[10:59] <NickGarvey> Newbieee: eh sorry I need to go
[11:00] <NickGarvey> girlfriend called, I get to go on a walk
[11:00] <NickGarvey> adios
[11:00] <c0llin> hello, how do i install wine if im using amd64?
[11:00] <roxanne> polpak, I used xubuntu because someone on here said it was faster.
[11:00] <Newbieee> helooo how can I see where I instaled Wireless tools???with synaptic?
[11:01] <J100> Hello. I have a wireless connection, but I need to de- and reactivate it using network-admin to get it to work every session. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[11:01] <dejx> how do i remove EVERYTHING.... what's related to *mysql*
[11:02] <dejx> cuz i fucked some things up
[11:02] <Tic0> Does anyone use the TI acx111 or Ralink RT2600/RT2600 wifi pci cards?
[11:02] <harm__> wtf.. the standert ubuntu Totem player cant play avi files? how shit is that lol :P
[11:03] <tristanmike> !tell harm__ about language
[11:03] <c0llin> lol
[11:03] <gfxstyler> !tell harm__ about totem-xine
[11:03] <gfxstyler> !tell harm__ about xine
[11:03] <dejx> anyone?
[11:04] <harm__> i got told
[11:04] <rebelguys6> in what way dejx
[11:04] <tristanmike> harm__: no, asked politely :)
[11:04] <c0llin> i need wine for amd64...
[11:04] <dejx> rebelguys6, i messed something up
[11:04] <harm__> sorry tristanmike.. :) didnt mean to sound upset
[11:04] <dejx> so now i have to ...
[11:04] <harm__> just very amazed
[11:04] <nook> I can't change ownership of dir on mounted drive, even using sudo. how should I do it?
[11:04] <dejx> type password,
[11:04] <dejx> and etc etc etc etc..
[11:05] <dejx> and it doesnt work prob, i think:/
[11:05] <tristanmike> harm__: it's no worries, we all have a slip of the tounge from time to time :)
[11:05] <c0llin> how do i install an i386 package on an amd64??
[11:05] <imc_> I have to patch the kernel of my notebook to get high speed access through my verizon card. How can I back up my current configuration in case I need to restore? Currently running unpatched plain vanilla ubuntu breezy kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[11:06] <tamale> nook, is it a windows partition?
[11:06] <harm__> tristanmike i now see why its not supported..
[11:06] <nook> tamale: yep
[11:06] <DBO> O_o
[11:06] <Davey|Work> How do I force ubuntu to run dhclient as root upon startup?
[11:07] <Davey|Work> (no GUI)
[11:07] <tamale> nook:  I'm having the same problem..  I looked into it and it doesn't sound like there's anyway to change ownership
[11:07] <tamale> lemme see if i can find the page again that I found once before
[11:07] <rebelguys6> on what filesystem nook ?
[11:07] <nook> tamale: OMFG. I have downloaded over 1,5GB of sources and I can't even compile it ;[
[11:07] <imc_> I have to patch the kernel of my notebook to get high speed access through my verizon card. How can I back up my current configuration in case I need to restore? Currently running unpatched plain vanilla ubuntu breezy kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[11:07] <nook> rebelguys6: ubuntu, drive is on vfat
[11:07] <rebelguys6> oh
[11:08] <Nick-Atis> !zen
[11:08] <ubotu> Nick-Atis: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:08] <tamale> well, if it's a windows partition you can move it onto the linux from within windows
[11:08] <rebelguys6> nook, vfat doesn't support users or permissions
[11:08] <tamale> the windows ext driver works well
[11:08] <Profichilla> where do I change if local time or GMT will be written into the BIOS?
[11:08] <rebelguys6> yes it does
[11:08] <W8TAH> Hi folks brand new breezy install -- build essentials added -- i am trying to compile a program (gpredict) and the configure script keeps erroring out with cannot find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install.  Im not sure where to go from here - can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:09] <harm__> wget is always so awsome :P
[11:09] <nook> rebelguys6: so kind of moron adviced me to download sources and compile it on windows drive. Is there any way to sort that out? Make returns error with changin permision.
[11:09] <rebelguys6> you can copy it to a linux partition, then run make install
[11:09] <vh> samba
[11:10] <rebelguys6> nook, or just  the whole process again
[11:10] <tristanmike> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install gnome-libs-data ?
[11:10] <nook> rebelguys6: whole process? I don't have enough space on linux drive to move sources there and compile.
[11:10] <W8TAH> tristanmike, AHHH - ok -- i was searching for gnome-libs
[11:10] <W8TAH> thanks
[11:11] <imc_> No kernel patching help at all ... anyone?
[11:11] <tamale> nook:  I think this is what you need:
[11:11] <tamale> in your fstab file
[11:11] <W8TAH> tristanmike, gnome-libs-data is already installed
[11:11] <redguy> nook: why do you want to compile wine?
[11:11] <frederik> When you need a console window in Ubuntu, do you normally just use that Konsole program? Or is there a way to get a "real" console, assuming this "Konsole" is just a shell
[11:11] <Eleaf> hey!
[11:11] <imc_> frederik ctrl+alt+F1
[11:12] <nook> redguy: I don't ask why, but how. That's not the issue
[11:12] <frederik> imc_, weheeew, thanks
[11:12] <Eleaf> Is anybody familiar with snmp for network monitoring?
[11:12] <redguy> nook: yes that's correct. I am asking why
[11:12] <Eleaf> ;)
[11:12] <imc_> yeah, CTRL+ALT+F7 brings youback to gnome
[11:12] <W8TAH> nook -- it will be much easier for them to help you if you answer the question
[11:12] <rebelguys6> nook, well you may have to edit the Makefile
[11:13] <frederik> imc_, so I found out :) Was getting a little scared there
[11:13] <imc_> frederik, but the gnome terminal is pretty good bash terminal with all functionality of the ugly tty!
[11:13] <rebelguys6> nook,which could be nasty, but have it output everything into another directory
[11:13] <iocaste> can anyone tell me how I find out the IRQ of my sound card?
[11:13] <tristanmike> W8TAH: hmm, not sure, is it included with the package, like in a folder or something ?
[11:14] <rebelguys6> nook, or create a loopback file on the vfat drive with a filesystem inside :/
[11:14] <tamale> that sounds horrid
[11:15] <W8TAH> tristanmike, not that i can see
[11:15] <nook> ugh, I guess I'll format it and make another ext3 partition. fscking linux
[11:15] <redguy> nook: satisfy my curiosity: why do you want to compile wine?
[11:15] <iocaste> can anyone tell me how I find out the IRQ of my sound card please?
[11:16] <chuckyp> iocaste, try lspci
[11:16] <redguy> iocaste: cat /proc/interrupts
[11:16] <iocaste> thx
[11:16] <redguy> nook: please...
[11:17] <imc_> No takers on my kernel patching problem, eh?
[11:17] <iocaste> lots of devices seem to use IRQ 11.. is that normal?
[11:18] <redguy> imc_: hmm, what configuration do you want to backup?
[11:18] <grogoreo> hi
[11:18] <grogoreo> Some how, I've manged to switch my scrollbar to the left from right. How do I get it back?
[11:18] <grogoreo> on Firefox
[11:19] <imc_> Basically redguy I want to backup what I have now, in case the patch borks stuff. I suppose I need only dwnload a copy of the image since I'm running something unpatched now.
[11:19] <imc_> But I don't know that to be true
[11:19] <grogoreo> ok, it's sorted - but i still don't know how I got it back!
[11:20] <redguy> imc_: the kernel .config file? if you build your kernel properly you should get a .deb package. You can install it with dpkg -i and have both (the ubuntu stock kernel and you patched version) along each other. You would choose which kernel to run in GRUB menu at boot-time
[11:21] <redguy> nook: pretty please...
[11:21] <Tic0> Does anyone use the TI acx111 or Ralink RT2600/RT2600 wifi pci cards?
[11:21] <imc_> Aaahhh, thank you redguy. Lemme do some looking up
[11:22] <c0llin> do any wifi card have native linux support?
[11:22] <redguy> imc_: can't find any factoids concerning kernel building, but I am sure there's a howto on the ubuntu wiki
[11:23] <redguy> c0llin: yes, prism2 based cards for example
[11:23] <me2win> !kernel
[11:23] <redguy> me2win: tried that :-)
[11:23] <c0llin> redguy:link?
[11:23] <me2win> lol
[11:23] <redguy> c0llin: ?
[11:24] <c0llin> redguy: er prism2?
[11:25] <rebelguys6> imc_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[11:25] <EscapeForSurfing> ciao a tutti
[11:25] <redguy> c0llin: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#whard
[11:25] <redguy> c0llin: http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card
[11:26] <redguy> c0llin: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[11:26] <ernz> Hi all
[11:26] <redguy> c0llin: google is your friend
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> scusate, posso chiedere una cosa?
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> come vedo un film .iso?
[11:26] <Ernz> Ubuntu noobie here. I have checked the forums but have found nothing on this.
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> il volume l'ho gia' montato
[11:26] <me2win> EscapeForSurfing, puedes ver en VLC
[11:26] <EscapeForSurfing> hi ernz
[11:26] <c0llin> redguy: thanks
[11:26] <Ernz> How can I change my resolution to a resolution that isn't listed?
[11:27] <Ernz> Hi EscapeForSurfing.
[11:27] <me2win> Ernz, add it to the list
[11:27] <redguy> !es
[11:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:27] <EscapeForSurfing> hi ernz
[11:27] <EscapeForSurfing> thank me2win!
[11:27] <redguy> !tell Ernz about fixres
[11:27] <Ernz> Hi. How would I do that?
[11:27] <me2win> EscapeForSurfing, de nada
[11:27] <Ernz> 'FixRes' eh? That sounds promising.
[11:27] <me2win> heh
[11:28] <redguy> Ernz: see the link ubotu sent you
[11:28] <EscapeForSurfing> ahah
[11:28] <Ernz> Ahhh
[11:28] <Ernz> Thanks all. Ill have a read and get back cha'
[11:30] <Zanga> Newbieee , maestre
[11:31] <andriijas> whats the difference between these:
[11:31] <J100> Does anyone know why I need to reactivate my wireless connection using network-admin every session?
[11:31] <andriijas> (23:26) ( andriijas) echo blaha > /dev/null
[11:31] <andriijas> (23:26) ( andriijas) echo blaha >> /dev/null
[11:31] <andriijas> (23:26) ( andriijas) echo blaha > /dev/null 2>&1
[11:31] <andriijas>
[11:32] <tristanmike> !paste
[11:32] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:32] <frederik> How do I force close the root-like access I get from e.g. "sudo su root"? It seems to stay open for a while, I can exit and reenter w/o typing the password again
[11:32] <c0llin> redguy: if someone says a wifi card works with knoppix then it should work with ubuntu right?
[11:32] <redguy> c0llin: right
[11:32] <andriijas> tristanmike: is that what you call a large amount of text? 3 lines is accepted in most channels
[11:33] <gilianima> why there's no iproute2 on ubuntu ?
[11:33] <c0llin> redguy: ever goten a broadcom card to work?
[11:33] <tristanmike> andriijas: this isn't most channels ;)
[11:33] <redguy> c0llin: nope
[11:33] <sfar-ubu> frederik, use "sudo -i" instead
[11:33] <tristanmike> andriijas: it's generally accepted in here to not paste anything, and to use either #flood or pastebin
[11:33] <ploom> andriijas, first directs (writes) stdout to the location pointed; second one directs by appending; and third one directs stdout to dev null and then stderr into stdout...
[11:33] <redguy> hah, andriijas left
[11:34] <c0llin> redguy: prism2 will do 108mbps?
[11:34] <ploom> damn.'
[11:34] <redguy> that was rude
[11:34] <ploom> goodnight to you :-)
[11:34] <redguy> c0llin: no idea
[11:34] <J100> No one can help me?
[11:34] <redguy> I mean, asking a question and leaving almost immediately was rude
[11:34] <frederik> sfar-ubu, thx, I'll do that. And I admit it's about time I start using the man rtfm too ^^
[11:35] <harm__> j100 whats ur qeustion?
[11:35] <redguy> J100: what was your problem again?
[11:35] <J100> I need to reactivate my wireless every session.
[11:35] <sfar-ubu> frederik,  :D
[11:35] <mwe> J100: it's not supposed to be necesary
[11:36] <frederik> sfar-ubu, I'm exploiting the fact ppl in here are so nice and helpful. I save 30 mins each time I just ask a question here instead of exploring the google-jungle ;)
[11:36] <J100> In case it's helpful, the wireless has been appointed to eth0, which strikes me as odd.
[11:36] <mwe> J100: that's normal
[11:37] <imc_> Hey redguy I hope you don';t mind but I would like to understand what I need to do here. I need to apply a patch to my kernel. I had thought it was as simple as downloading the patch and then running -p0 < patch-file-name - is this not the case?
[11:37] <mwe> J100: that's the name some drivers use even for wifi
[11:37] <BlueHeron> eth0 is standard ethernet connection
[11:37] <sfar-ubu> frederik, i do that too sometimes.. but mostly i try to google first.. but your perticular question was not that "google-friendy" so asking in here was much smarter :)
[11:37] <imc_> Needless to say I've not this before (though I did install gentoo that was entirely ground-up so a different beast!)
[11:37] <mirak> is there some command line tool to convert a text file to utf8 ?
[11:38] <mwe> mirak: yudit comes with uniconv
[11:38] <J100> What does network-admin do that isn't being done by /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:38] <BlueHeron> J100, nothing i dont think
[11:38] <VincentMX> hi
[11:38] <ernz> Hi again people!
[11:39] <mwe> J100: afaik network-manager just manages the interfaces file
[11:39] <imc_> hi ernz
[11:39] <dumb_> hi guy, where can i found some doc to understand rc.d meaning in ubuntu system?
[11:39] <ernz> Thanks for your help, it turns out I was doing it right before, I was just being stupid and not reading the plain instructions.
[11:40] <Rdde> Heavy question this: if I use the rsync to backup files and a disk fails... it will proably show under backup when all the files are accessed.. if i have the --delete flag dose it overwrite files or dose it delete the hole backup and then do a new one? =) becoause if it delets all files and come across an error halfway a lot of files will be lost! anyone have an ide?
[11:40] <mwe> dumb_: sysv init is your keyword
[11:40] <dumb_> mwe, thank you a lot
[11:41] <J100> So, no suggestions that might help me?
[11:41] <ernz> Is there anywhere I can get additional skins/themes for Ubuntu?
[11:41] <tristanmike> ernz: gnome-look.org
[11:41] <dekela> Hey People
[11:41] <dekela> Anyone has Azureus on dapper drake?
[11:41] <ernz> I tried that site earlier Tristanmike, it was down...?
[11:41] <mwe> J100: maybe if you paste relevant info from /var/log/sylog and /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin.com as well as lspci -v and lsmod maybe
[11:42] <tristanmike> ernz: back up now ;)
[11:42] <ernz> Oh, wait. Not now. Thanks Tristanmike!
[11:42] <mwe> J100: paste it on pastebin.com
[11:42] <J100> I don't have a /var/log/sylog
[11:42] <J100> I have a /var/log/syslog
[11:42] <mwe> J100: then your system is broken
[11:42] <ernz> I have been using Ubuntu for 46 hours straight now. FANTASTIC!
[11:42] <Nadrea> Hello,  I've had a problem with my matrix printer, when the buffer is full it start printing strange char, any idea?
[11:43] <mwe> J100: yeah that's it. typo, sorry
[11:43] <Misnix>  /var/log/syslog is fine
[11:43] <bryan> algien podria decirme en que direccion encuentro  como configurar los repositorios de ubuntu??
[11:43] <Zanga> Nadrea , instaleaza win xp
[11:43] <J100> What should I look for in /var/log/syslog?
[11:43] <ernz> May I PM you Tristanmike, I have a couple of questions...?
[11:43] <bongy> mwe, i have a specific proble.m..i've installed avahi ubuntu deb package but i don't want to start at boot time...i'm in the second runlevel but /etc/rc2.d doesn't contain any avahi script and i don't know how to keep away from scripts that runs at boot time
[11:44] <mwe> J100: info about your interface
[11:44] <mwe> J100: time stamps should help you locate the relevant parts
[11:44] <bryan> portal latino  porfavor
[11:44] <VincentMX> i'm converting a windows batch file to a linux shellscript, but when i type ./vlanmsg.bat it says "bad interpreter, /etc/alternatives/csh^M, no such file or directory." so i romove that line, but then it says "start:^M Command not found"  but when i edit it in vim i don't see no ^M nowhere
[11:44] <bryan> hay alguno??
[11:44] <Nadrea> Zanga ^
[11:44] <mwe> VincentMX: that wont work
[11:44] <Nadrea> ?
[11:45] <VincentMX> mwe why not?
[11:45] <BlueHeron> VincentMX, doesnt work like that
[11:45] <mwe> VincentMX: windows batch files are very different from bash scripts
[11:45] <rambo3> ^M = enter key in wordpad
[11:45] <Zanga> Nadrea , ca sa iti mearga printeru instaleaza win xp :))
[11:45] <Misnix> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:45] <mwe> VincentMX: they don't work in linux
[11:45] <VincentMX> mwe, yes that's why i'm trying to change it
[11:45] <Nadrea> ubunto-ro I suppose
[11:45] <VincentMX> but how do i remove the ^M?
[11:45] <mwe> VincentMX: you need to revrite it completely
[11:45] <rebelguys6> no
[11:46] <rebelguys6> man dos2unix
[11:46] <rebelguys6> oh
[11:46] <rebelguys6> or get dos2unix
[11:46] <bryan> algiuen habla  espaol??
[11:46] <mwe> VincentMX: about nothing from the batch file will work in linux. you might as well write a new script from scratch
[11:46] <Misnix> bryan:
[11:47] <redguy> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <Misnix> !es
[11:47] <VincentMX> mwe, ok
[11:47] <Nadrea> Hello,  I've had a problem with my matrix printer on parallel, when the buffer is full it start printing strange char, any idea?
[11:47] <VincentMX> sorry
[11:47] <BlueHeron> Nadrea, buffer?
[11:47] <mwe> VincentMX: don't worry. you can't know what you don't know
[11:47] <Tic0> Does anyone use the TI acx111 or Ralink RT2600/RT2600 wifi pci cards?
[11:47] <VincentMX> ok
[11:47] <rambo3> rt61
[11:47] <krakon> hi there. don't you know any channel where i can get help in spanish?
[11:47] <BlueHeron> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <Tic0> rambo3 you use it?
[11:48] <ernz> Anyone able to explain to a toto noob how things are installed on Ubuntu. So far I have heard of "Tarball" and "Debian packages"...But everytime I DL something it just gives me a compressed file with loads of DIRs and files in.
[11:48] <Nadrea> BlueHeron, yes, I mean, when I try to print something it seems is charging but it start print these strange char.
[11:48] <rambo3> yeas rt61
[11:48] <VincentMX> hey
[11:48] <BlueHeron> Nadrea, hmm dunno.
[11:48] <DBO> ernz, its easier than that for most everyone you want
[11:48] <VincentMX> isn't there also a xubuntu-us?
[11:48] <VincentMX> for xfce desktop?
[11:48] <redguy> !tell ernz about synaptic
[11:48] <redguy> !tell ernz about repos
[11:48] <redguy> !tell ernz about apt
[11:48] <ernz> OOH! I hears about that one too.
[11:48] <ernz> lol
[11:48] <rambo3> Tic0, rt drivers are well documented
[11:48] <redguy> ernz: read the links ubotu sent you
[11:49] <ernz> ta
[11:49] <mwe> VincentMX: the name is xubuntu-destop IIRC
[11:49] <VincentMX> mwe ok
[11:50] <sfar-ubu> how to extract a .tar.bz2 into a specific folder?
[11:50] <rambo3> ask ubotu
[11:50] <BlueHeron> tar xfvz
[11:50] <VincentMX> mwe, i think i'm going to write the base program first, then i'll add the other funtions
[11:51] <ernz> I see - So what if I downloaded a theme for example from Gnome-look.org
[11:51] <ernz> That is a tar.gz
[11:51] <tristanmike> tar xvjf file.tar.bz2
[11:51] <ernz> (Tarball?)
[11:51] <BlueHeron> ahh xvjf.
[11:51] <BlueHeron> sorry
[11:52] <sfar-ubu> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[11:52] <rambo3> !tell sfar-ubu about tar
[11:53] <BlueHeron> sfar-ubu, tar xvjf name.tar.bz2
[11:53] <sfar-ubu> ive tried that BlueHeron
[11:53] <rem> Hey does anyone know what a NSS user is ??
[11:54] <rem> NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services
[11:54] <sfar-ubu> tar xvjf name.tar.bz2 /home/username/destinationfolder/
[11:54] <rem> evolution asks me to enter the password for that whenever i want to enter my certificate ..
[11:54] <dj-fu> rem you're entering your certificate incorrectly
[11:55] <ernz> OHH MAN! That is sweeet. I get it now.
[11:55] <rambo3> tar -xjf flie.tar.bz2 && man tar
[11:55] <fiendskull9> !psp
[11:55] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:56] <rem> How do you enter it in evolution then .. ? i always wiw it thw same way never had a prob...and read the help too ...
[11:56] <mwe> sfar-ubu: I don't think that will work. I think you need -C destination
[11:56] <tristanmike> ernz: if you download a tar from gnome-look, the themes manager should be able to install from that, no unpacking necissary
[11:56] <redguy> rambo3: hmm that might be a good way to make people read the manuals
[11:56] <ernz> It did indeed tristanmike ;)
[11:56] <dj-fu> rem, edit > preferences > edit mail account > security > enter your PGP key ID
[11:56] <sfar-ubu> -C after file.tar.bz2?
[11:56] <ernz> Thanks
[11:56] <rebelguys6> haha rambo3
[11:56] <mwe> sfar-ubu: before the destination
[11:56] <sfar-ubu> will try that :)
[11:56] <rem> thats ok,...its for the Thawte id ..
[11:57] <ernz> ...Still not entirely sure what tar's are all about, but hey, seems like I don't need to know.
[11:57] <rem> just a bit lower ..
[11:57] <rebelguys6> its like zip but so much cooler
[11:57] <sfar-ubu> btw, the destinationfolder is hidden (with a dot), will that make any difference?
[11:57] <mwe> sfar-ubu: no
[11:57] <sfar-ubu> its says "bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file."
[11:57] <rem> ice been trying to do this and wearxh thge internet for about 1 month ...
[11:57] <rem> start to think about using another email client ..
[11:57] <rem> :(
[11:58] <mwe> sfar-ubu: linux doesn't really have hidden files. dot files or just not listed by default with ls
[11:58] <tristanmike> ernz: tar is kinda like zip(windows), and gz and bz2 are also like zips, so in essence, it's a zip in a zip
[11:58] <dj-fu> rem, Thawte?
[11:58] <mwe> sfar-ubu: they are in fact identical to non dot files
[11:58] <dj-fu> rem all you have to do is add it in where I said, just manually type in your KEY ID. I've tested it
[11:58] <redguy> ernz: tar is an archiver, puts multiple files and directories in a single file, but doesn't compress by default. The -j switch compresses with bzip2 and produces a .tar.bz2, the -z switch compresses with gzip and creates a .tar.gz
[11:58] <sfar-ubu> mwe, ah :)
[11:58] <kRaKoN> what is "universe repository" ?
[11:59] <rem> i found one guy sith the same prob: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2005-September/msg00271.html
[11:59] <rem> ..but never an asnwer .. :(
[11:59] <redguy> !tell kRaKoN about universe
[11:59] <rem> it works for gpg...but I need the thawte id to work too ...
[11:59] <sfar-ubu> but why does it say "is not a bzip2 file.".. is it a faulty file ending on that file?
[11:59] <ernz> Riiight, I see. So there is now "executable" to do the installing for you?
[11:59] <kRaKoN> thanks redguy
[11:59] <rhythminmind> ok i could use some help..
[11:59] <rebelguys6> sfar-ubu, it could be corrupt
[12:00] <patrick52222> where do i get new themes for gnome
[12:00] <dj-fu> rem, I don't know what thawte ID is?