[10:02] <erUSUL> vsivak, try reinstalling sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:02] <justintime32> ok
[10:02] <vsivak> ok
[10:02] <vsivak> oO another error
[10:02] <vsivak> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get isntall build-essential
[10:02] <vsivak> E: Invalid operation isntall
[10:03] <gatpandoa> tried vlc and i think i already have libdvdcss
[10:03] <_jason> vsivak: install not isntla
[10:03] <Xanadu> vsivak: install not isntall
[10:03] <Falstius> vsivak, you need to spell it right :)
[10:03] <justintime32> how can i add a dirver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/
[10:03] <justintime32> driver*
[10:03] <Xanadu> nah it was gnomefreak spelt it wrong
[10:03] <craize> anyone knows?
[10:03] <sobersabre> hi... Is there a backport of gnome 2.14 into breezy ?
[10:03] <silvaran> justintime32: Just use modprobe.d/blacklist instead ("blacklist bcm43xx")
[10:04] <justintime32> ok
[10:04] <Xanadu> craize: glxgears -printfps
[10:04] <craize> thanks Xanadu
[10:04] <vsivak> i say and also write install
[10:04] <vsivak> what do you mean instla
[10:04] <vsivak> :)
[10:04] <sobersabre> gnomefreak have you rtfm'ed about filesystemz stucture already ?
[10:04] <justintime32> is there a difference between modprobe and hotplug
[10:04] <craize> hrm
[10:04] <Xanadu> if your framerate is over 1000 your 3D acceleration is probably working
[10:04] <craize> doesnt seem to work
[10:04] <sobersabre> justintime32 of course :)
[10:04] <craize> ctrl + alt + backspace restarts X11 right?
[10:04] <silvaran> Xanadu: Or it's a really, really, really tiny glxgears window :)
[10:04] <jbroome> y
[10:04] <vsivak> ok i see
[10:04] <sobersabre> craize not rite!
[10:04] <craize> so it should be hardware accelerated if i added the fireGL drivers
[10:04] <Xanadu> silvaran: or you got a killer processor
[10:04] <silvaran> Heheh
[10:05] <sobersabre> craize Alt+Ctl+Backspace kills X.
[10:05] <craize> so i need to reboot the whole box ?
[10:05] <craize> ah
[10:05] <justintime32> ok, rebooting...
[10:05] <craize> well i installed the driver
[10:05] <craize> and told it to use fglx
[10:05] <Xanadu> craize: no you probably don't need to reboot
[10:05] <craize> weird
[10:05] <sobersabre> justintime32 why are you rebootuing ?
[10:05] <craize> it worked previously fine
[10:05] <sobersabre> too late.
[10:05] <Xanadu> but u need to add fglrx as the driver to xorg.conf
[10:05] <obli> What would the command for 'rename' be to omit an extra '.mp3' in the file names? my files are called file.mp3.mp3
[10:05] <craize> hmmmz
[10:05] <craize> im gonna double check
[10:05] <obli> they're all in subfolders, by the way
[10:05] <craize> xorg.conf resides where?
[10:06] <Xanadu> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: im gonna read up more tomorrow ive been sort of busy and its almost time to eat :)
[10:06] <Falstius> obli, rename "s/\.mp3\.mp3/\.mp3/" *mp3
[10:06] <craize> thx
[10:06] <obli> ok, thanks
[10:06] <Falstius> obli, uhm, if they're in subfolders you need more
[10:06] <Xanadu> craize: if the drivers are "ati" then it's the ones that come with Ubuntu. If it's "fglrx" then that's what you want.
[10:06] <craize> yeah it says it right
[10:06] <craize> no they are "fglrx"
[10:06] <silvaran> rename "s/\.mp3$//" *mp3 <-- HAH shorter :)
[10:06] <ReWT_> anyone here ever use guild ftpd?
[10:06] <craize> in the conf
[10:06] <Xanadu> and you restarted X yet?
[10:06] <craize> im gonna try killing X
[10:07] <craize> yes once
[10:07] <craize> with ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:07] <sobersabre> REPEATING: is there a backport of gnome 2.14 for breezy ?
[10:07] <Falstius> obli, silvaran, I always forget the regexp niceties.
[10:07] <silvaran> sobersabre: NO, you need to wait for Dapper.
[10:07] <paxmaster> now it have no sould
[10:07] <paxmaster> now it have no sound *
[10:07] <Xanadu> okay try again
[10:07] <silvaran> Falstius: All is fair, I wasn't aware of the "rename" util :)
[10:07] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: no
[10:07] <sobersabre> silvaran or build it myself, or use Debian pacakge....
[10:07] <Falstius> silvaran, the ubuntu rename works differently than the redhat ... confused me for awhile.
[10:08] <craize> brb
[10:08] <silvaran> Ahh...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: 2.14 was released this morning
[10:08] <Xanadu> paxmaster: you sure the sound card is plugged in nice and snug? might be reason for it sometimes working and sometimes not
[10:08] <sobersabre> gnomefreak SO WHAT ?!?!
[10:08] <silvaran> gnomefreak: But will never be in the breezy repo -- since it's what dapper's for.
[10:08] <sobersabre> it is in dapper already.
[10:08] <obli> silvaran, didn't seem to work on the subdirs
[10:08] <Falstius> obli, it won't ... didn't read that part at first :)
[10:08] <gnomefreak> sobersabre: this am
[10:08] <obli> oh
[10:09] <kolosudo> alguien habla espanol?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> silvaran: it might be im not writing the backports for ubuntu
[10:09] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:09] <silvaran> !es
[10:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:09] <sobersabre> kolosudo try ubuntu-es
[10:09] <Enchanter_tim> hello
[10:09] <ploom> khm - keski siin eestikeeli kah knlb?
[10:09] <cyphase> my brezzy machine is crashing soon after logon
[10:09] <Ohm> Hey guys, somebody use the PYTONE?
[10:09] <Falstius> obli, you need: find . -type d -exec rename "s/\.mp3$//" \{}/*mp3 \;
[10:09] <cyphase> breezy*
[10:09] <sobersabre> cyphase what lang have you used before ?
[10:09] <Xanadu> cyphase: at what point does it crash?
[10:09] <silvaran> gnomefreak: There are backports for gnome?
[10:10] <obli> ok, trying it
[10:10] <gnomefreak> silvaran: not yet
[10:10] <cyphase> sobersabre, ?
[10:10] <Enchanter_tim> is there a way to use newer versions of certain packages than are available in breezy ?
[10:10] <sobersabre> I meant ploom
[10:10] <Falstius> obli, you can pass the -n option to rename the first time for a "test run"
[10:10] <mischko> How to get Ubuntu 5.1 to install on my Dell Poweredge 2500 dual proc?  It says "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."?
[10:10] <cyphase> Xanadu, soon after i log on and everything has started (gaim, xchat, etc)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> i havent yet heard plans on there being one since gnome 2.14 was released this morning
[10:10] <sobersabre> ploom what lang is this: "khm - keski siin eestikeeli kah knlb?"
[10:11] <obli> I'm testing it on a separate folder, it didn't seem to work, not even on the file not in a subfolder
[10:11] <ploom> Eesti keel, sobersabre
[10:11] <sobersabre> mischko you've messed up repositories
[10:11] <Enchanter_tim> (for example, i have libgcrypt11  1.2.1-3 but i need >= 1.2.2
[10:11] <cyphase> Xanadu, i start to use a program, and soon, it crashes
[10:11] <sobersabre> estonian ?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: enable backports for some packages im have ubotu pm you the link
[10:11] <cyphase> various programs
[10:11] <sobersabre> ploom ... estonian ?
[10:11] <justintime32> ok, it's still eth0
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Enchanter_tim about backports
[10:11] <Ohm> somebody use the PYTONE for plays mp3?
[10:11] <ploom> sobersabre, natuke vru murraku poole, aga eesti jah :-)
[10:11] <mischko> sobersabre, I don't have it hooked to the network. It's only getting things from CD. New install.
[10:11] <Xanadu> cyphase: might be a hardware problem or incompatibility
[10:11] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: thanks, ill check it out
[10:11] <Falstius> obli, I probably had a typo ...
[10:11] <craize> uhm, this is weird, the first 2 seconds the glxgears runs at a proper framerate, but it drops over to software? my xorg.conf is fine and tells it to use fglrx.... any takers? :(
[10:11] <sobersabre> ploom I have no idea what have you typed.
[10:12] <cyphase> Xanadu, it started when i was running vncviewer
[10:12] <ploom> sobersabre, you should know, your name sounds like friendsabre when taken in estonian :-)
[10:12] <cyphase> then kept going
[10:12] <obli> find . -type d -exec rename "s/\.mp3$//" \{}/*mp3 \;        ?
[10:12] <Xanadu> craize: try aticonfig
[10:12] <craize> ok
[10:12] <Falstius> obli, find . -name "*mp3" -exec rename "s/\.mp3\.mp3/\.mp3/" \{} \;
[10:12] <craize> xanadu, what i do with ati config?
[10:12] <justintime32> the bcm43xx module isn't loaded, and it's still eth0
[10:12] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: they are unoffical you use tham at own risk
[10:13] <Falstius> not that I don't trust silvaran, but I know my switch will work :)
[10:13] <Xanadu> craize: not entirely sure - don't have an ati card :/
[10:13] <silvaran> obli: Go with Falstius -- my regex will end up renaming the files you've already renamed
[10:13] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: well, if i dont, things wont work :D
[10:13] <silvaran> justintime32: What does iwconfig say about your interfaces?
[10:13] <obli> aye, that's it, worked like a charm, my F2 button is grateful
[10:13] <ploom> sobersabre, but I guess you chose the name for sobre (as not drunk in english) rather than friend (sber) :-)
[10:13] <craize> Xanadu: , thanks anyhow :)
[10:13] <silvaran> justintime32: And can you pastebin your dmesg?
[10:13] <Xanadu> craize: there's also a howto in the ubuntuforums on how to install the latest ATI drivers
[10:13] <justintime32> it says eth0 too
[10:13] <gnomefreak> !ati
[10:13] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <Xanadu> craize: also saw that ATI released new Linux drivers like yesterday
[10:14] <silvaran> justintime32: pastebin time :)
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294696.570000]  ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Linksys,02/12/2003, <IP_ADDRESS>) loaded
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294696.571000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:09.0[A]  -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 209
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294696.660000]  ndiswrapper: using irq 209
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  wlan0: vendor: ''
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0c:41:14:17:97 using driver bcmwl5, 14E4:4320.5.conf
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  ndiswrapper (set_auth_mode:686): setting auth mode to 3 failed (C0010015)
[10:14] <justintime32> [4294697.670000]  wlan0: encryption modes supported: none
[10:14] <silvaran> justintime32: Nonono
[10:14] <silvaran> !paste
[10:14] <gnomefreak> justintime32: use pastebin please
[10:14] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:14] <siggi> where can I see what version of kubuntu im using ?? like breezy or what ?
[10:14] <silvaran> justintime32: After you've submitted to ubotu's link, post the link to it in this channel.
[10:14] <justintime32> sorry, what's that (i'm a noob)
[10:15] <sobersabre> ploom I really have no idea in "Estii" or whatever it is. I have very little knowledge in any baltic language...
[10:15] <gnomefreak> siggi: iirc there is an about in the menu but its been so long since i used kde it might have changed
[10:15] <zF> Grrr!
[10:15] <silvaran> justintime32: Go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, submit your entire dmesg, and send us the link it provides you with.
[10:15] <zF> I hate CUPS!
[10:15] <ploom> siggi, cat /etc/issue would help I guess
[10:15] <zF> I remove it
[10:15] <zF> and somehow it gets reinstalled.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> zF: its part of gnome
[10:15] <ploom> sobersabre, you know its baltic - thats a start
[10:15] <justintime32> ok
[10:15] <sobersabre> zF CUPS is dependency for many things.
[10:15] <JDahl> siggi, you don't know if you installed breezy or another version?
[10:15] <siggi> ploom: thakns :D
[10:15] <zF> it keeps an open port running, gnomefreak - isn't it just for printing?
[10:16] <sobersabre> ploom, c'mon, my gf/bride is from Riga.
[10:16] <hypnotic> hey guys how can i get access to my backup drive (it's a windows formatted hd)
[10:16] <gnomefreak> JDahl: he wants to know kde version i think
[10:16] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: thanks, it doesnt solve my issue, but it might be helpfull knowing that :D
[10:16] <siggi> im just messing with it a lot :)
[10:16] <narg> why is it that pressing shift+backspace or shift+enter restarts x? It is usually only ctrl+alt+backspace...
[10:16] <gnomefreak> hypnotic: ntsf or fat
[10:16] <cyphase> hypnotic, on breezy?
[10:16] <ploom> sobersabre, damn - they really are beautiful down south there
[10:16] <OmegaAlpha> hello, i have a problem with 3dpoker-server that i tried installing a month ago. it never fully installed so now when i install anything it keeps trying to finish installing but then gets an error about mysql and connecting? anyone know how i can remove this package from installing.. i dont want it
[10:16] <Xanadu> narg: it shouldn't (but I'm not going to try it)
[10:16] <sobersabre> :)
[10:16] <cas> narg: because you use xgl?
[10:17] <sobersabre> ok kids, must continue working... will build the gnome for breezy later on.
[10:17] <Enchanter_tim> xgl works?
[10:17] <ploom> sobersabre, but the latvian language is so different - its as similar to lithuanian as estonian is to finnish
[10:17] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[10:17] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:17] <narg> cas: I've toyed with it, but I'm on xorg atm (I think :p) /etc/X11/X points to xorg.
[10:17] <cyphase> hypnotic, on breezy?
[10:18] <nickrud> zF, cups only listens to localhost on that port by default
[10:18] <Enchanter_tim> it doesnt work on the ati mobility chipset, i think
[10:18] <sobersabre> ploom I am sure it is more than romano-germanic group. I mean, I looked at texts in either of the 4 languages, and they have similarities.
[10:18] <sailor> I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?
[10:18] <gatpandoa> i have libdvdcss enabled via synaptic
[10:18] <Enchanter_tim> (well, last i tried, it broke my display)
[10:18] <siggi> JDahl: im pretty new to kubuntu and now im messing with xgl setup and just dit apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:18] <gatpandoa> still issue with dvd
[10:18] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: it wont work for alot of people
[10:18] <sobersabre> I don't know how they sound like, but written form has some similarities.
[10:18] <sobersabre> bye
[10:18] <silvaran> sailor: Loose video card on the motherboard?
[10:18] <justintime32> here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237
[10:18] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: try mplayer now
[10:18] <ploom> no - estonian is ugri or finnish language group
[10:18] <narg> cas: so are those the shortcuts in xgl to restart it?
[10:18] <sailor> silvaran: no, it boots windows or a live cd just fine, so its not hardware
[10:19] <hypnotic> cyphase: i am on the newest ubuntu
[10:19] <cas> narg: dunno then, I know this is a xgl/compiz bug, so I think it's weird you have it with the normal X
[10:19] <ploom> and latvian is romanian i guess - at least really different
[10:19] <kridunink> Hello.
[10:19] <arnoud> Hey
[10:19] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: the weird thing is, it sort of works. i get it working with kdm, then when i try to use a windomanager it either dies (goes back to kdm,no mouse and keyboard) or it fails to properly initialize a windowmanager
[10:19] <cyphase> hypnotic, System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:19] <narg> cas: hrm. I can't get Xgl to even start on mine, even though I have the most vanilla nvidia card out there :p Very odd.
[10:19] <arnoud> Anyone known with SuSe Linux 10.0?
[10:19] <kridunink> I am new to linux. Can any one help with a totem error?
[10:20] <silvaran> justintime32: eth0 is your RealTek card, wlan0 is your wireless... do you get normal output with "iwconfig wlan0" ?
[10:20] <craize> im back :(
[10:20] <selinium> gnomefreak, I have look in the repos and cant find any vlc skins? Have you got any strange repos in your sources?
[10:20] <gatpandoa> error opening/initializing selected video is what mplayer says
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Enchanter_tim: that is highly unstable
[10:20] <ssam> kridunink, whats the error
[10:20] <ReWT_> anyone here ever use guild ftpd?
[10:20] <lewix> kridunink, im new too and i have an errot with totem but I dont use that i use rythmic box instead
[10:20] <JDahl> siggi, I dont think you will have changed the version of KDE just by doing an upgrade. Breezy should be kde3.4 and Dapper should be kde3.5
[10:20] <richard_> hi there. i have a probelm with my wlan device. after updating to dapper drake i have no wlan0 device anymore
[10:20] <sailor> anyone else have any ideas?
[10:20] <alessandro_> anyone have a asus a2k notebook? query me...
[10:20] <gnomefreak> selinium: ofcourse i do i wouldnt be me if i didnt :)
[10:20] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: what does "hdparm -d /dev/dvd" tell you?
[10:20] <richard_> i use ndiswrapper
[10:20] <Enchanter_tim> gnomefreak: indeed :D im not complaining though. if i break it, i get to fix it again :D
[10:20] <kridunink> ssa, Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing
[10:20] <hypnotic> cyphase: it says inaccessible.. even when i click enable
[10:20] <gnomefreak> but really selinium they should be in multiverse i would think
[10:21] <cas> narg: try xgl-ubuntu for xgl related stuff, I do think you allready run xgl because of this bug but you have problems with compiz
[10:21] <justintime32> wlan0     No such device
[10:21] <selinium> gnomefreak, lol, that would explain it. I have multiverse....
[10:21] <ssam> kridunink, what are you trying to play
[10:21] <silvaran> richard_: Do you have a broadcom-based device? (ie: bcmwl5)?
[10:21] <richard_> yes
[10:21] <cas> narg: i ment #xgl-ubuntu
[10:21] <lewix> ssam, are you saml ?
[10:21] <justintime32> i can do the pastebin for the whole iwconfig output
[10:21] <sureshot> Hello can anyone tell me if there is a linux or ubuntu equivlent to the microsoft phone manage for the ms 900 phone manager
[10:21] <richard_> i have a linksys pci wireless card with the bcmwl5 driver
[10:21] <ssam> lewix, no sorry
[10:21] <JDahl> siggi, maybe that sounded a bit vague.. you will _not_ have changed the version of KDE just by playing around with upgrades etc - there's only one version in the repositories
[10:21] <hypnotic> cyphase: do i need to add a access path?
[10:21] <narg> cas: ...how would I be running xgl? the X symlink points to Xorg :p
[10:21] <selinium> gnomefreak, I am pretty sure I have!.... [sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list]   :)
[10:21] <kridunink> ssa, it is a mpg file. I got codecs and packages info from a forum.
[10:21] <silvaran> justintime32: Sure, and also ifconfig -a would help
[10:21] <gatpandoa> /dev/dvd using dma=1 (on)
[10:21] <justintime32> ok
[10:21] <gatpandoa> thats all
[10:22] <cyphase> hypnotic, yes
[10:22] <gnomefreak> selinium: it may only be in dapper also
[10:22] <craize> anyone got a Radeon 9700 Pro to be hardware accelerated? I installed the driver, its used from xorg.conf too, but it still only gives me ~180FPS when running glxgears....
[10:22] <ssam> kridunink, does any sound play from other applications?
[10:22] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: could be video card, or a lot of other stuff
[10:22] <narg> cas: its #ubuntu-xgl btw ;)
[10:22] <cas> narg: I only changed my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[10:22] <silvaran> richard_: Dapper comes with an experimental bcm43xx driver .. I haven't got it to work, neither has justintime32 :).  Shoot where's that wiki?  I know there's a page for switching back to ndiswrapper...
[10:22] <hypnotic> cyphase: what should i put the access path at? desktop?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> selinium: the name of package iirc is vlc-skins but dont hold me to that
[10:22] <cas> narg: neh, #xgl-ubuntu has better support :P
[10:22] <selinium> gnomefreak, cheers.
[10:22] <kridunink> ssam, yes on boot up and sounds from using ubuntu
[10:23] <richard_> silvaran: thanks, that was a usefull hint. I'll try to find it
[10:23] <justintime32> apparently, the bcm43xx only works on some wmp54g cards
[10:23] <narg> cas: woah, two channels. Odd :p
[10:23] <gnomefreak> selinium: check on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <martyn_> can an1 point me in the right direction on how to install drivers for a nvida 7800gt grapics card
[10:23] <cyphase> hypnotic, look in the wiki. wiki.ubuntu.com . i'm in the middle of a crisis right now :S
[10:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell martyn_ about nvidia
[10:23] <gatpandoa> hmmm
[10:23] <ssam> kridunink, ok, what other programs do you have open? some programs are rude and block the sound from other
[10:23] <justintime32> here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238
[10:23] <gnomefreak> martyn_: your pm has instructions
[10:23] <sureshot> is there any such software to handle a phone and such for telephone connected to the serial port
[10:23] <silvaran> richard_: Check out section "2.3.3" of  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28bcm43xx%29
[10:23] <sailor>  I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?
[10:24] <silvaran> This should really be in #ubuntu+1, but now we've got 3 broadcom people in here already :)
[10:24] <Xanadu> craize: did you install the linux-restricted-modules packages?
[10:24] <thomas`> how do you benchmark with glxgears?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[10:24] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[10:24] <thomas`> to see your fps? cuz id like to seemine
[10:24] <gatpandoa> that brings me the the graphic card question i have 2 graphic card one is an nvidia which is an add on vga card
[10:24] <richard_> silvaran: great!!
[10:24] <kridunink> ssam, i just have the disks manager and file system and a couple of internet open. no other apps.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> thomas`: glxgears -printfps and its not a benchmark
[10:24] <thomas`> cool
[10:24] <gatpandoa> how do i enable that and enabble ubuntu to see it as an add on vga
[10:24] <weedar> silvaran, I use the bcmwl5a module in ndiswrapper too, do I count? :)
[10:24] <craize> Xanadu: yes i believe so
[10:25] <gnomefreak> gatpandoa: use the nvidia if i were you
[10:25] <ssam> kridunink, do you have firefox on a page with flash? that might do it
[10:25] <craize> for 386
[10:25] <silvaran> weedar: Yup, so that's 4 :)
[10:25] <Falstius> gatpandoa, you want two screens or?
[10:25] <selinium> gnomefreak, only shows the ones I have in my repos...
[10:25] <craize> last time i did it for 686, then it worked
[10:25] <thomas`> i get 10,700fps
[10:25] <gatpandoa> no one screen is fine
[10:25] <craize> guess im gonna try that
[10:25] <thomas`> in glx gears
[10:25] <Xanadu> thomas`: yeah it's not authorative in any way but if you change something in the drivers and you run it again and you get more fps, it's a good sign
[10:25] <thomas`> nice lol.
[10:25] <silvaran> justintime32: That is some weird, wild funky stuff... you've got dmesg spouting out wlan0 but finally settling on eth0 after assigning eth0 away to your realtek card!!! (only I didn't believe you at first :)
[10:25] <justintime32> i know
[10:25] <MisterN> hi
[10:25] <erUSUL> sailor, try looking at /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:25] <craize> tell CraiZE about ati
[10:25] <justintime32> i'm not a linux noob, an irc noob
[10:25] <Enchanter_tim> thomas`: or minimize glxgears and get more fps ;)
[10:25] <kridunink> ssam, i think not. there seems to be no flash up, just forums from ubuntu
[10:25] <craize> hrmm
[10:25] <craize> the bot isnt msging me .(
[10:25] <Spec> justintime32: what's up?
[10:26] <urmom> howdy would any of you know where to get a pcb for my westerndigital caviar 8oGB EIDE or if this would even be a plausable alternative to RMAing it?
[10:26] <gatpandoa> but il have to enable nvidia as as on in cmos
[10:26] <craize> !tell CraiZE about ATI
[10:26] <justintime32> on breezy, without the bcm driver, it worked fine
[10:26] <Spec> justintime32: you're trying to use bcm43xx?
[10:26] <gatpandoa> question is i can do that but how will ubuntu know its an add on
[10:26] <justintime32> nope, that didn't work
[10:26] <silvaran> justintime32: If you get a chance, try sending your 2 pastebin links http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238 to #ubuntu+1 -- they may have more experience with it, since dapper made the executive decision to stick the bcm43xx into dapper.
[10:26] <justintime32> i'm trying ndiswrapper
[10:26] <Xanadu> craize: what does "uname -r" tell you?
[10:26] <gatpandoa> and where and how do i eanble nvidia in ubuntu
[10:26] <Spec> justintime32: what kernel are you running?
[10:26] <silvaran> Spec: We've disabled it (seemingly) by blacklisting it.
[10:26] <ssam> kridunink, ok, i recommend that you try a couple of other video players, totem is not that good yet
[10:26] <urmom> need a wd PCB
[10:26] <Spec> justintime32: lsmod |grep -i bcm please
[10:27] <ssam> kridunink, xine and vlc are quite good
[10:27] <justintime32> 2.6.15-18-386
[10:27] <kridunink> ssam, ok cool thanks. alot i will try that.
[10:27] <silvaran> Spec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10237 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10238 if I can rope you into this one :)
[10:27] <justintime32> Spec: it returns nothing
[10:27] <ssam> kridunink, are you ok at installing stuff?
[10:27] <Spec> excellent
[10:27] <Spec> did it load when you booted?
[10:27] <Spec> or have you since rebooted since blacklisting?
[10:27] <gouchi> Hi
[10:27] <Spec> if it loaded when you booted, be sure to rmmod ndiswrapper;modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:28] <justintime32> nope
[10:28] <urmom> help with finding a new PCB for my harddrive any one?
[10:28] <justintime32> i blacklisted it
[10:28] <Spec> then rebooted?
[10:28] <weedar> silvaran, sorry for butting in the conversation =) but does this mean that when dapper is released we will have an alternative to ndiswrapper?
[10:28] <kridunink> ssam, it takes me a little while to figure it out. only had linux for three days. i have to use a terminal and type in the code right?
[10:28] <Spec> yes
[10:28] <silvaran> justintime32: Is it still working okay, even with the erroneous device assignments?
[10:28] <justintime32> yeah
[10:28] <Spec> weedar: i don't use ndiswrapper
[10:28] <sailor> anyone?
[10:28] <Spec> weedar: i have a bcm4306
[10:28] <gatpandoa> any help with nvidia?
[10:28] <ssam> kridunink, you can use system -> administation -> synaptic package manger
[10:28] <silvaran> weedar: For only 1-2 specific wireless cards, and the driver is currently experimental.  And you still need to manually extract the proprietary firmware from the windows .sys drivers.
[10:28] <Xanadu> sailor whats the question?
[10:29] <Spec> silvaran: no you don't
[10:29] <Spec> silvaran: there are unofficial debs available
[10:29] <justintime32> the internet is working
[10:29] <Spec> justintime32: hmm?
[10:29] <justintime32> however, i still have to manually start it each time
[10:29] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: you can download basic nvidia drivers through synaptic
[10:29] <weedar> Spec, ah. I'm using a belkin card, but it uses the same chip it would seem
[10:29] <kridunink> ssam, oh yeah that too. thanks. and i have to make the new one the primary player right
[10:29] <gouchi> Hi
[10:29] <justintime32> and i can't access my own computer
[10:29] <silvaran> Spec: Ahhh... still.
[10:29] <Spec> justintime32: manually start what?
[10:29] <justintime32> for example, i have an apache server running
[10:29] <justintime32> and i can't access it from localhost
[10:29] <ssam> kridunink, if you right click on a file you can choose play with -> xine
[10:29] <sailor>  I've got a problem that hopefully someone can help me with... My breezy system has seemingly randomly stopped booting--it comes up, goes through the motions, but before the nVidia screen flashes and it dumps me to the command prompt, it hangs, and the vid card/monitor turns off, leaving me no choice but a hard reset... Any idea how to figure out whats causing it and how to fix it?
[10:29] <justintime32> Spec: the wireless card
[10:29] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: or get the linux drivers from nvidia.com which I always find a little tricky to install
[10:29] <Spec> is apache bound to a specific ip?
[10:30] <gouchi> which new tool allow to manage right user ? I don't remember
[10:30] <justintime32> nope
[10:30] <Spec> justintime32: okay, so, you can get the wireless card to work with ndiswrapper?
[10:30] <justintime32> however, i forwarded port 8080 to my pc (the port apache runs on)
[10:30] <gouchi> there is Sabayon and ? something like Persoluss
[10:30] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: do you want two screens running off the two cards?
[10:30] <ssam> kridunink, or from right click -> properties you can choose the default app for that file type
[10:30] <Falstius> sailor, you should try booting into single user mode ...
[10:30] <gouchi> something like that
[10:30] <siggi> JDahl: im using this tutorial http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[10:30] <Spec> justintime32: what do you need to do to get it to work after it boots?
[10:30] <justintime32> i can get at it using my wan IP from here and other computers
[10:30] <gouchi> any idea ?
[10:30] <sailor> Falstius, how do I do that?
[10:30] <justintime32> after it boots, i need to open the network manager and activate it
[10:30] <urmom> ok then does any one have any good ubuntu compatible RTS games like command and conquer look alikes?
[10:30] <kridunink> ssam, thanks for the tip. you have been lots of help. do you know any way to play games designed for windows?
[10:30] <justintime32> for some reason, ifup won't work
[10:31] <Spec> justintime32: wanna take this to PM?
[10:31] <Spec> so you can paste me some info
[10:31] <justintime32> sure
[10:31] <justintime32> ok
[10:31] <silvaran> Spec: Thanks ;) I tried.
[10:31] <Falstius> sailor, when the system is booting hit "esc" to enter the grub menu, hit "e" to edit the entry and and "single" to the end of the kernel line.  Hit enter and "b" for boot.
[10:31] <justintime32> thanks
[10:31] <ssam> kridunink, i haven't done it myself, but you might want to look up wine
[10:31] <JDahl> siggi, I didn't catch what your problem was... did you dist-upgrade and things stopped working?
[10:31] <sailor> Falstius, lemme give that a try...
[10:31] <kridunink> ssam, i did find that was just not sure how it would work, thanks
[10:32] <Xanadu> urmom: Wesnoth is a very addictive turn-based strat game
[10:32] <WhyvasLT> is gmail down for anyone else?
[10:32] <gatpandoa> no xanadu justone monitor here
[10:32] <weedar> The day linux can support "any" wireless card perfectly I'll have nothing to complain over
[10:32] <ssam> kridunink, there should be a howto somewhere, maybe someone else can help
[10:32] <ssam> kridunink, there a quite few good linux games
[10:32] <Falstius> sailor, there will be some notes at the bottom of the screen to remind you
[10:32] <Moe|Joe> hey people
[10:32] <WhyvasLT> weedar, go back to windows and shut up then....
[10:32] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay let me get this straight: you got two cards and one is nvidia and one is just an arb card right?
[10:32] <martyn_> yeah gmail is down
[10:32] <silvaran> weedar: The day linux can support "any" wireless card perfectly Linus' grandchildren will have written their own operating system.
[10:32] <gatpandoa> yes
[10:32] <Moe|Joe> i need a ndiswrapper expert :P
[10:32] <urmom> xandu anyothers you know of?
[10:33] <gatpandoa> using onboard card right now
[10:33] <siggi> JDahl: no I havo no problem other than i wanted know where i cound see the version i was using: cat /etc/issue
[10:33] <kridunink> ssam, yes thanks alot, i will have to look into the linux games. i just love baldur's gate though
[10:33] <siggi> :)
[10:33] <weedar> WhyvasLT, thanks for that insightful comment I'm glad I wasted bandwidth getting it to display on my monitor
[10:33] <Spec> weedar: my wireless card is working right now
[10:33] <Spec> weedar: but you mean any as in all?
[10:33] <Xanadu> urmom: check out Ur Quan Masters (uqm in the repos) - a re-release of Star Control II
[10:33] <martyn_> buy a wirless bridge
[10:33] <gatpandoa> installed nvidia for gaming
[10:33] <Xanadu> urmom: v cool
[10:33] <Moe|Joe> anyone here using ndiswrapper? i got a problem :s
[10:34] <ssam> kridunink, glad to help, freeciv and wesnorth a good if you like turnbased stratergy
[10:34] <silvaran> Moe|Joe: Dapper?
[10:34] <urmom> ty xandu are these in the apget program?
[10:34] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: and you're not getting anything thru the nvidia card but you are through the vga?
[10:34] <weedar> Spec, well not necessarily "all" cards available on the market. But it seems to me that many of the cards available in the norwegian market needs some fiddling around to work
[10:34] <kbrooks> any cool games in the ubuntu repos?
[10:34] <Xanadu> urmom: yeah (might be universe or multiverse - not sure)
[10:34] <Moe|Joe> ubuntu says my card is installed but...the lights on the wifi card are not showing
[10:34] <tristanmike> kbrooks, define "cool"
[10:34] <kridunink> ssam, thanks for the tip
[10:34] <Falstius> kbrooks, nethack and Maelstorm :)
[10:34] <Moe|Joe> silvaran: nope breezy
[10:34] <gatpandoa> yes
[10:34] <weedar> Spec, and since we all want Linux used by most people (right?) they should work prettymuch out of the box like regular ethernet cards :)
[10:34] <urmom> ty much xandu
[10:34] <gatpandoa> that is true z=xanadu
[10:34] <sailor> Falstius, that worked... so now how do I figure out why and how to fix it so I can boot normally?
[10:34] <Spec> yes, the problem is
[10:34] <Spec> proprietary firmware
[10:34] <Spec> and the fact that they don't release any information to us
[10:34] <kbrooks> tristanmike, why is "cool" soooo subjective
[10:34] <silvaran> Moe|Joe: Nasty... I don't have any wireless experience other than ndiswrapper on dapper with a broadcom card :(
[10:35] <Moe|Joe> hmm
[10:35] <tristanmike> kbrooks, cause I don't think nethack, for instance, is "cool"
[10:35] <Moe|Joe> im using that ndisgtk
[10:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay each card should have its own PCI address
[10:35] <kbrooks> Falstius, what is maelstorm?
[10:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa hang on have to check this out myself ;)
[10:35] <gatpandoa> okie
[10:35] <gatpandoa> :)
[10:35] <Falstius> sailor, the first then you should do it turn off gdm ... chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:35] <kbrooks> tristanmike, cool: not textbased, easy to play
[10:36] <tristanmike> kbrooks, supertux
[10:36] <Falstius> sailor, that will keep it from booting into the graphical environment for now (until you can fix it)
[10:36] <weedar> Spec, sure I know the reason. But I doubt joe-anybody cares - Most people just want things to work :/
[10:36] <hypnotic> i now have access to my HD but when i made a shortcut it said this user does not have permission to view it.. can someone help me
[10:36] <kbrooks> tristanmike, i have already played that.
[10:36] <sailor> Falstius, OK, i'll try that... any ideas on how I'd try to figure out whats making it do this though?
[10:36] <JDahl> siggi, I normally use aptitude to browse package information... you can also do that from the command line 'dpkg --help'. For example, dpkg -s kubuntu-desktop spits out a lot of info
[10:36] <silvaran> hypnotic: ntfs?
[10:36] <ssam> kbrooks, wesnorth
[10:36] <kbrooks> Falstius, what is maelstorm?
[10:36] <tristanmike> kbrooks, then you played frozenbubble then too ?
[10:36] <hypnotic> yes silvaran
[10:36] <kbrooks> tristanmike, yes
[10:36] <tristanmike> kbrooks, maelstrom An arcade-style game resembling Asteroids.
[10:36] <weedar> Moe|Joe, some cards don't light up until you connect to a wireless network. Have you tried?
[10:36] <Spec> weedar: Yes, but Ubuntu doesn't like having proprietary stuff in it (obviously), so...we're at a stand still :p
[10:37] <kbrooks> ssam: and what is wesnorth? :)
[10:37] <Falstius> sailor, use "startx" to start xwindows from the command line.  It may still fail but should give you some error info to go by.  Did you recently update your video drivers?
[10:37] <Spec> weedar: justintime quit, he never responded to my pms? :p
[10:37] <Xanadu> okay gatpandoa you should have a section under xorg.conf called "Device" which should have a "BusID" thingy in it
[10:37] <tristanmike> kbrooks, what about Wesnoth ?
[10:37] <kbrooks> spec: um.
[10:37] <ssam> kbrooks, wesnoth (sorry typo before) is a turn based stratergy
[10:37] <kbrooks> spec: first things first
[10:37] <Falstius> kbrooks: asteroids clone.
[10:37] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: that BusID points to the PCI slot that the card it's accessing is in
[10:37] <Spec> kbrooks: yes?
[10:37] <urmom> how large is freeciv?
[10:38] <sailor> Falstius, no, I haven't changed them since I installed them with Automatix
[10:38] <ssam> kbrooks, mission based, lots of campaigns
[10:38] <Falstius> sailor, I don't know what automatix is ...
[10:38] <kbrooks> spec: ubuntu doesnt block you from installing proprietary stuff
[10:38] <urmom> and where do i get wesnoth?
[10:38] <gatpandoa> how do i access xorg.conf via term?
[10:38] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: so to get the right card working, change the BusID to the correct one (figuring that out is another story - will have to do some digging). Suggest you just leave the driver as "vga" untill it's working
[10:38] <Spec> kbrooks: no, but it's not in MAIN
[10:38] <tristanmike> kbrooks, how about Stratagus
[10:38] <silvaran> hypnotic: I never really read that wiki... essentially all I do is edit /etc/fstab, and for my ntfs line, I make sure "options" has "ro,umask=0222" ... then umount /media/hda1 and mount /media/hda1 or wherever your mountpoint is.
[10:38] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <Spec> kbrooks: and therefore will not Just Work (tm)
[10:39] <ssam> urmom, you can install it with synaptic package manager
[10:39] <Kyral> gatpandoa, sudo <insert favorite editor here> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <sailor> Falstius, it's just an auto install script for lots of commonly used packages--it installed the nvidia driver for me
[10:39] <kbrooks> spec: second, the ubuntu community will never charge a fee to people who wish to install these proprietary programs
[10:39] <urmom> tyssam
[10:39] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: it's the main file containing all the devices for X so it's pretty useful
[10:39] <hypnotic> thank you bud
[10:39] <gouchi> pessulus ;-)
[10:39] <kbrooks> spec, and finally: it doesnt object to the use of them, either.
[10:40] <Ohm> How I install the JAVA SCRIPT?
[10:40] <Kyral> !java
[10:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:40] <weedar> Java is not javascript
[10:40] <silvaran> I hope he didn't mean JavaScript.
[10:40] <Falstius> sailor, and it worked after that?  You might poke around in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if there's something glaringly wrong.  But seeing stuff like that takes some experience.
[10:40] <Kyral> Actually do you know what I found is the best popup blocker?
[10:40] <Spec> kbrooks: that has nothing to do with what i said?
[10:40] <weedar> Kyral, lynx? ;)
[10:40] <paxmaster> I am removable dvd drive
[10:40] <Spec> Ubuntu will not put proprietary stuff into it's distrobution.
[10:40] <urmom> where do i find synaptic in add programs? ssasm
[10:40] <bddebian> Kyral: NOt using dar intarweb?
[10:40] <OmegaAlpha> anybody use 3ddesktop in here?
[10:40] <Falstius> sailor, you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:40] <gatpandoa> how do i use that paste site to paste u what xorg says
[10:41] <sailor> Falstius, yeah, it worked just fine after that, and then this randomly started happening some weeks later... And I'm not sure I have enough experience to really notice anything wrong with the xorg conf
[10:41] <silvaran> paxmaster: I'm an internal hard drive, nice to meet you.
[10:41] <Spec> end of story, next fact -> lots of wireless cards won't work without proprietary stuff
[10:41] <ssam> urmom, system -> admin
[10:41] <Kyral> bddebian, nope, not installing Java :P
[10:41] <Kyral> nor Flash :P
[10:41] <paxmaster> now when I try put it back it no detectonf
[10:41] <marcy> hi
[10:41] <paxmaster> same
[10:41] <marcy> how can i take off the kubuntu splash from grub
[10:41] <Falstius> sailor, its also possible that you have some hardware that is failing ...
[10:41] <marcy> ?
[10:41] <Kyral> when you consider that most popups use Java and Flash to work... :P
[10:41] <gatpandoa> xanadu? how do i pate you what my xorg.conf says
[10:41] <paxmaster> I am have a removable dvd drive
[10:42] <silvaran> gatpandoa: Did you get ubotu's message about pastepin?
[10:42] <paxmaster> now when I try put it back it no detecting
[10:42] <silvaran> s/pastepin/pastebin/
[10:42] <gatpandoa> yes one sec
[10:42] <sailor> Falstius, the machine boots fine to windows or a live cd, so I don't think it's hardware
[10:42] <gatpandoa> asting to u
[10:42] <kbrooks> i'm a USB hard drive, nice to meet you. now use me, someone.
[10:42] <paxmaster> what wrong
[10:42] <gatpandoa> pasting to u
[10:42] <weedar> Spec, if you know - does the centrino wlan cards work "out of the box" now?
[10:42] <silvaran> kbrooks: You're a serial device!
[10:42] <Spec> nope, I do not know
[10:42] <marcy> i wanna put the ubuntu splash when the computer starts instead of kubuntu
[10:42] <Spec> broadcom doesn't work out of the box :-/
[10:42] <Spec> in fact, broadcom is broken out of the box due to lack of firmware
[10:42] <silvaran> kbrooks: I guess it's not as funny in chat as it was in my head.
[10:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell marcy about usplashchange
[10:43] <Spec> silvaran: :p
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> no 3ddesktop users in here?
[10:43] <marcy> thanks
[10:43] <kbrooks> silvaran, i was merely being creative
[10:43] <Falstius> sailor, probably not then.  Well, first try startx and look in .xsession-errors to see what it says.
[10:43] <MdSalih> hello all
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> ok how about does anyone know how to remove a package that isnt fully installed from fully installing?
[10:43] <weedar> Serial devices are never funny. Unterminated external SCSI-devices though..
[10:43] <MdSalih> How do i start Gnome in ubuntu ?
[10:43] <silvaran> kbrooks: Nah it was my lame answer to your comment.
[10:43] <Xanadu> gatpandoa what's the pastebin link?
[10:43] <Moe|Joe> MdSalih: startx
[10:43] <psycho_oreos> !tell Xanadu about pastebin
[10:44] <kbrooks> silvaran, ya ya right...........
[10:44] <ReWT_> anyone here ever use guild ftpd?
[10:44] <silvaran> psycho_oreos: He needs the link to something somebody else pasted.
[10:44] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, synaptic package manager should list it as a broken package
[10:44] <silvaran> Maybe ubotu should remind people to resubmit their pasted text link to the channel :)
[10:44] <ramza3> anybody use gnuserv with emacs
[10:44] <cerebrix> could someone message me for a quick chat?  new to linux and everything worked great except automatix didnt add my native flat panel resolution for some reaon and i dont know how to add that resolution.  thanks =)
[10:44] <kbrooks> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:44] <MdSalih> Moe|Joe - startx doesn't seem to do anything.. my screen goes blank :(
[10:44] <shiv> What does this command mean? sudo rm -f /usr/share/applications/nvu.desktop
[10:44] <ReWT_> my sound isnt working?
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> silvaran: ahh ok my bad
[10:44] <Moe|Joe> hmmm
[10:44] <Moe|Joe> wird
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, its not a broken package
[10:44] <silvaran> Mmm... webboard, gotta try that.
[10:44] <Moe|Joe> *weird
[10:44] <gazanfer> hello
[10:44] <PaoloC> hi all, can anybosy help me in adding again winXP to my grub boot?
[10:45] <kbrooks> ubotu, pastebin =~ s/Install (.*?)//
[10:45] <ubotu> that doesn't contain 'Install (.*?)', kbrooks
[10:45] <PaoloC> i lost it upgrading to drapper...
[10:45] <gatpandoa> how do i find out pastebin link
[10:45] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: that's a screenshot and the stuff I need to see is further down
[10:45] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, i think it counts things that did not cleanly install
[10:45] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:45] <silvaran> kbrooks: Is that how you "program" the guy?
[10:45] <sailor> Falstius, how would I make the machine start booting x again automatically? chmod a+x?
[10:45] <kbrooks> ubotu, pastebin =~ s/Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)//
[10:45] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[10:45] <gazanfer> i have a problem: my ubuntu system can not see one of two exact windows xp computers.
[10:45] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10239
[10:45] <Seveas> kbrooks, ?
[10:45] <Xanadu> gatpandoa look for "section Device"
[10:45] <PaoloC> please, can anybody contact me privatly?
[10:46] <Seveas> don't mess with perfectly fine factoids
[10:46] <Ohm> How can I install JAVA RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT?
[10:46] <Ohm> ???
[10:46] <Falstius> sailor, yep
[10:46] <Seveas> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:46] <Seveas> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org -
[10:46] <MdSalih> !startx
[10:46] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MdSalih
[10:46] <urmom> is 100kB/s any good for a cheap dsl connection?
[10:46] <silvaran> Seveas: Why did he do that?
[10:46] <Falstius> but since in testing you might reboot or crash the system, its best to leave that off for now.
[10:46] <Xanadu> gatpandoa or just dump the whole file in pastebin
[10:46] <Seveas> !no pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar
[10:46] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[10:46] <sailor> Falstius, OK, i'm going to reboot now
[10:46] <Falstius> sailor, to make it book into graphics, chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:47] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, well the reason its not fully installed is that it try to connects to a mysql server which i dont think i have installed and gets an error. but then stops right there and everytime i try to install anything it keeps trying to connecting to the server and gets the error again
[10:47] <ssam> urmom, bits or bytes?
[10:47] <LRF> This is my first use of X-chat so pardon stupid question.  I am trying to use Totem to play a .wmv file and get this message:  The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.  I am a brand new linux user so any help would be appreciated.  I tried searching for help, but could not find anything.  Also, sorry if I'm not posting in c
[10:47] <LRF> orrect "channel".
[10:47] <sailor> Falstius, should I boot into single again?
[10:47] <Falstius> sailor, did xwindows work?
[10:47] <eobanb> can anyone recommend a small lightweight acpi battery monitor, preferably one that integrates with fluxbox
[10:47] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10240
[10:47] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, how did you try to install it?
[10:47] <sailor> Falstius, it did in single, rebooting now to check xsession-errors
[10:47] <urmom> bytes
[10:47] <cerebrix> could someone message me for a quick chat?  new to linux and everything worked great except automatix didnt add my native flat panel resolution for some reaon and i dont know how to add that resolution.  thanks =)
[10:47] <silvaran> !fixres
[10:47] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, terminal
[10:47] <silvaran> cerebrix: There you go :)O
[10:47] <IceTox> Hey.. I wanna try this new graphical environment (other than KDE and Gnome). I just noticed there are no /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions. It it replaced somewhere?
[10:47] <Falstius> sailor, just type "init 2"
[10:48] <martyn_> whats the comand from the comand line not termianl to start gnome aganin
[10:48] <gatpandoa> xanadu its
[10:48] <gatpandoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10240
[10:48] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, with apt-get?
[10:48] <Falstius> that will go into multiuser mode without rebooting.
[10:48] <kbrooks> thanks Sevites :P
[10:48] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: that BusID "PCI:0:1:0" is pointing to your vga card
[10:48] <gatpandoa> yup
[10:48] <silvaran> kbrooks: Why remove the webboard reference?
[10:48] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, nevermind i just found it in synaptic.. it said it was installed but it isnt so now im doing a complete removal
[10:48] <sailor> Falstius, OK, one sec...
[10:48] <kbrooks> silvaran, never mind. its over.
[10:48] <Xanadu> anyone know off the top of their heads how to get the PCI address of an AGP card? (save some google time for me)
[10:49] <silvaran> OK
[10:49] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, ok, thats the easiest way to deal with it
[10:49] <p01n7> howdy OmegaAlpha
[10:49] <zezu> Is there a backup copy of my hosts file that ubuntu would have created ?
[10:49] <_jason> martyn_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:49] <Falstius> Xanadu, lspic?
[10:49] <Falstius> er lspci
[10:49] <zezu> I seem to be ok without it but gnome complains
[10:49] <silvaran> Xanadu: lspci can give it to you
[10:49] <zezu> or how can i add my current host to it so it will stop ?
[10:49] <ssam> lrf, did you get a reply yet?
[10:49] <PaoloC> is there a tool for automatically detect the menu.lst setting for booting winxp?
[10:49] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, hey man whats burning?
[10:49] <Xanadu> kewl ta
[10:49] <gazanfer> Falstius, can you help me with a network issue?
[10:49] <_jason> martyn_: or I suppose it would just be 'start' instead of 'restart' if it isn't running
[10:49] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, sadly nothing
[10:50] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, thanks for your time though.. i wonder if that poker3d game is good graphics like the holdem online games
[10:50] <martyn_> k
[10:50] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, heh not over here
[10:50] <LRF> ssam, not yet
[10:50] <zezu> hm
[10:50] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: lspci | grep -i nvidia | more
[10:50] <zezu> it wont let me do sudo -i either
[10:50] <zezu> gethostbyname() doesn't work for my host
[10:51] <ssam> LRF, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats let us know if you dont understand anything
[10:51] <zezu> lessee what google says about the format of hosts file i guess
[10:51] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, busy as ever trying to get this harddrive fix... i took a lil break though and now screwing around with VNC but cant get that to work right either
[10:51] <martyn_> i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line to this folder
[10:51] <kbrooks> ROFL Seveas
[10:51] <anna> hi guys, can somebody help me? i cant play mkv files..
[10:51] <kbrooks> Seveas: you kicked yourself out of here
[10:51] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: then pastebin it (mark with mouse and ctrl-shift-c to copy from the console)
[10:51] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, leave me the hell out of it :P
[10:52] <Ohm> How can I install JAVA RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT???
[10:52] <zezu> err i can't do sudo to write to the /etc/hosts
[10:52] <zezu> any ideas ?
[10:52] <sailor> Falstius, when I try to load .xsession-errors, it says gedit was not able to detect the character encoding
[10:52] <Seveas> !tell Ohm about java
[10:52] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, lol no i will leave you in!
[10:52] <sailor> Falstius, nano will read it
[10:52] <EvilDin> why my ubuntu have avalable only resolution 640x480
[10:52] <urmom> how does one install wes
[10:52] <ssam> Ohm, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:52] <zezu> and i can't modify it to be writeable
[10:52] <silvaran> PaoloC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10242
[10:52] <zezu> anyone?
[10:52] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, ever use 3ddesktop?
[10:52] <sailor> Falstius, what are you looking for in this file?
[10:52] <martyn_> i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line ( not the gfx terminal)  to this folder
[10:53] <p01n7> yes
[10:53] <Xanadu> zezu: who's the owner of the file?
[10:53] <Falstius> sailor, you are able to boot into xwindows to run gedit?
[10:53] <ssam> urmom, synaptic package manager
[10:53] <zezu> Xanadu, probably root
[10:53] <zezu> lemme check
[10:53] <Xanadu> zezu: then should work fine
[10:53] <anna> does anyone know how to play matroska files?
[10:53] <sailor> Falstius, in single user mode, yes
[10:53] <gatpandoa> wish me luck ,otherwise its back to reinstalling ubuntu
[10:53] <urmom> game have any 3d graphics support?
[10:53] <cas> zenrox: did you tried `sudo gedit /etc/hosts` ?
[10:53] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, i installed it thru terminal. and i typed in '3ddesktop' and nothing happened
[10:53] <zezu> err
[10:53] <Falstius> sailor, then xsession-errors isn't likely to tell you very much ...
[10:53] <p01n7> lol, it's running
[10:53] <cas> zenrox: sorry ment zezu
[10:53] <zezu> the problem is that sudo isn't working
[10:53] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, apt-get install packagename
[10:54] <zezu> b/c the hosts file can't find my hostname
[10:54] <sailor> Falstius, I can't check it when I have the problem since I can't get signal from the vid card...
[10:54] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:54] <zezu> or else i'd just readd it
[10:54] <gatpandoa> Xanadu nvidia driver installation says installer must be run as root
[10:54] <LRF> ssam, thanks, I'll have a look at the wiki.  However, Totem will not start up from the application menu even before i specify what type of file to open. ????
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, yes i know
[10:54] <gatpandoa> i thought user is root in ubuntu
[10:54] <Xanadu> zezu sudo isn't dependent on host file
[10:54] <martyn_> can any help or not
[10:54] <martyn_> can any help or not
[10:54] <martyn_> i am install Nvida 7800 driver on the command line i have put the file in my home folder which is called martyn how do i direct the command line ( not the gfx terminal)  to this folder
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, i know how to install stuff :)
[10:54] <Falstius> sailor, you can quit xwindows and start gdm manually.
[10:54] <cas> zezu: boot into save mode and add it then
[10:54] <Xanadu> gatpandoa you already on to that?
[10:54] <obli> how do I get a higher screen res than 1024x768? I'm pretty sure I picked 1280x1024 when installing...
[10:54] <zezu> zezu@faerun:~$ sudo vi /etc/hosts
[10:54] <zezu> sudo: unable to lookup faerun via gethostbyname()
[10:54] <sailor> Falstius, trying to boot as normal without auto gdm right now
[10:54] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: run it as sudo nvidia-blahblah
[10:54] <silvaran> martyn_: You should probably use the prepackaged nvidia driver.
[10:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell obli about fixres
[10:54] <gatpandoa> yes why is it saying must be installed as root
[10:55] <zezu> save mode ?
[10:55] <zezu> perhaps i can just switch to RL1 ?
[10:55] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, run 3ddesk in a terminal
[10:55] <obli> yay
[10:55] <gatpandoa> how do i change to root
[10:55] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, you can do man 3desktop to find out about it
[10:55] <cas> zezu: yes it should be in your grub menu by default
[10:55] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: it's been a looong time since I installed nvidia stuff
[10:55] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, i installed 3ddesktop thru terminal..no errors... so then i went to run it.. which i assume by typing '3ddesktop' in ther terminal and nothing happened.. same thing with my glunarclock program
[10:55] <p01n7> after first run.. '3ddesk' again with launch the switcher
[10:55] <_jason> obli: do that if you don't have choices in system > preferences > screen resolution
[10:55] <martyn_> silvram: i am trying ti get them installed to lower the gou fan speed as its very loud plus for playing games
[10:55] <ramza3> what is a good ftp client for ubuntu
[10:55] <zezu> so if my hostname is faerun, should i just add : <IP_ADDRESS> faerun localhost ?
[10:55] <obli> ok
[10:55] <Falstius> sailor, okay.  You can also try starting gdm from the command line (chmod a+x /etc/init.d/gdm; /etc/init.d/gdm start)
[10:55] <ramza3> besides ftp
[10:55] <Xanadu> getpandoa: run it from the command line with "sudo nvidia-blahblah" (whatever it's called)
[10:56] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, awesome that worked!
[10:56] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, for glunarclock you need to right click on the panal and choose add, then find it in the list
[10:56] <obli> Do i need to download the catalyst drivers from ATI ?
[10:56] <silvaran> martyn_: nvidia-settings?
[10:56] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, did you get that?
[10:56] <Xanadu> zezu: try nano or pico
[10:56] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, ok
[10:56] <selinium> is there a commnd line ftp command as standard?
[10:56] <sailor> Falstius, OK
[10:56] <zezu> I'm still not going to have permissions to write
[10:56] <zezu> but i'll try
[10:56] <gatpandoa> no luck eh
[10:56] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha,i have it bined to short-cut-keys
[10:56] <silvaran> selinium: lftp should be there on fresh install ... otherwise apt-get it.
[10:56] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yeah its pretty cool.  not necessary but neat, def can impress my buddies with this since they know nothign about ocmputers
[10:56] <selinium> silvaran, cheers
[10:56] <p01n7> binded *
[10:57] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, you should see xgl
[10:57] <cas> zezu: reboot and select the select the (recovery mode)
[10:57] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, yeah ill have to keep typing it in terminal if i dont bind a key to it right?
[10:57] <martyn_> silvram: all am trying to do is to know how to get to my home dir. form the command line . i can install ok from there just dont know how to direct it there i.e is i " cd home/martyn/
[10:57] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: I suggest yo u start with the Ubuntu nvidia drivers, get that working first then brave the install from nvidia.com
[10:57] <zezu> ok i'll try thanks
[10:57] <silvaran> martyn_: "cd" by itself will take you home.
[10:57] <zezu> but is that line ok ?
[10:57] <cas> zezu: then add it with pico/vim/nano or whatever
[10:57] <silvaran> martyn_: Then "pwd" to show where you are (Print Working Directory)
[10:57] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, yes
[10:57] <IceTox> Is it possible to run XPDE at Ubuntu? Anyone tried that before?
[10:57] <sailor> Falstius, it seems that when I boot in multi-user (as normal) but startx manually, it works
[10:57] <zezu> <IP_ADDRESS> faerun faerun   or  <IP_ADDRESS> faerun localhost ?
[10:57] <cas> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost faerun
[10:58] <zezu> ok
[10:58] <zezu> thx, brb
[10:58] <Falstius> sailor, that's good to know.  Have you tried starting gdm manually?
[10:58] <sailor> Falstius, I'm gonna reboot again with it automatically starting gdm
[10:58] <martyn_> silvram: i have place them in my folder called home folder called martyn so waould that be cd /home/martyn
[10:58] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: the packages you want are linux-restricted-modules, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-settings
[10:58] <Falstius> sailor, I would try starting gdm manually first
[10:58] <sailor> Falstius, I booted it with the chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm and then ran startx from the terminal when it booted
[10:59] <sailor> Falstius, was that what you meant?
[10:59] <silvaran> martyn_: If you downloaded it directly from nvidia's site, "find ~/ -iname '*nvidia*'" will find the actual path to the .bin
[10:59] <OmegaAlpha> p01n7, guess im gonna have to read wiki on binding keys... i forgot how to do it.. i learned how to make it so all iha ve to type is acs instaed of "apt-cache search" :)
[10:59] <Falstius> sailor, gdm is the graphical login package.  If you start it with /etc/init.d/gdm start it should come up just as if you booted with it on.
[10:59] <suryam> breezy 'server' install has so many things broken... i guess all the focus is given to making 'desktop' install very nice :*-(
[10:59] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: then you want to change "Driver" under that Section "Device" section to "nv" and change BusID to point at your nvidia card
[10:59] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, what is xgl?
[10:59] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, you should see xgl
[10:59] <sailor> Falstius, OK
[10:59] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, it's a gnome setting.. i used KDE
[11:00] <ramza3> anything like winscp for unbuntu?
[11:00] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, its the best desktop bling ever
[11:00] <silvaran> suryam: I've never had any problems... I usually just do a server install and can later do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[11:00] <p01n7> It would be just as good to add an icon to the panel or desktop
[11:00] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, its not to easy to install yet, but its very good
[11:00] <silvaran> ubotu: tell OmegaAlpha about xgl and how awesome it is.
[11:00] <silvaran> Awww...
[11:00] <silvaran> !xgl
[11:00] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:00] <suryam> silvaran: are you able to switch between virtual terminals with ctr-alt-F1..6 ?
[11:00] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: and if you get into trouble and X won't start, edit xorg.conf from the command line (sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and change "nv" to "vga"
[11:00] <ssam> silvaran, thanks
[11:01] <paxmaster> I have a removable dvd drive (laptop), now i try put it back it's not detecting it,
[11:01] <dos000_> howdy
[11:01] <silvaran> suryam: Yup ...
[11:01] <paxmaster> how should I detect it
[11:01] <silvaran> suryam: Although when you're in the console it's usually just Alt+F?
[11:01] <dos000_> i just installed matchbox .. how do i switch my windowmanager to it ?
[11:01] <suryam> silvaran: i guess ubuntu-desktop package has all the magic then. i'll install it
[11:01] <suryam> silvaran: correct
[11:01] <b33r> how can I make unbuntu see my fat32 partition?
[11:01] <ssam> paxmaster, i think there is some info in man hdparm
[11:01] <SGershon> Hi All!
[11:02] <silvaran> suryam: It'll pull down a LOT of stuff as well, pretty much the whole default install, which kind of defeats the purpose of doing 'server' in the first place (I used it to update dapper before I had a dapper flight cd)
[11:02] <ssam> dos000_, log out and it shoulf be in the session menu
[11:02] <p01n7> mount -t vfat /dev/devicname /dir/to/.place/you/want/to/mount/it/to
[11:02] <OmegaAlpha> coolness i got some reading to do.. what else is new
[11:02] <p01n7> :P
[11:02] <dos000_> ssam, i dont see it in the session menu
[11:02] <SGershon> "Unable to get exclusive lock", but it seems to be no "locking" application open... How can I detect the "blocking" application?
[11:02] <sailor> Falstius, when I run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, it tells me command not found
[11:02] <suryam> silvaran: yeah... but i can't get a working system (can't switch between VTs!!) without that bloat i guess
[11:02] <thesilentkiller> i am looking for a good calendar server that i can run on ubuntu.....it shud run on some standard (like ical) so that outlook users can use the server too.....any suggestions?
[11:03] <ssam> dos000_, hmm, could be a bit trickier, have you tried searching th wiki and forum?
[11:03] <gatpandoa> i found nvidia in synaptic via search now what
[11:03] <silvaran> SGershon: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:03] <silvaran> suryam: That's weird... the vts should be taken care of by init, I can't see ubuntu-desktop making any difference.
[11:03] <kvarntun> anyone who can answer some questions about webcam problems?
[11:03] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: scoll up ;)
[11:03] <silvaran> gatpandoa: Are you following the nvidia wiki?
[11:03] <gatpandoa> no
[11:03] <dos000_> ssam, i tried all over .. no one seems to document it . i even tried update-alternatives --config x-windowmanager
[11:03] <gatpandoa> wheres the nvidia wiki
[11:03] <silvaran> ubotu: tell gatpandoa about nvidia
[11:04] <Falstius> sailor, did you "chmod +x gdm" first?
[11:04] <thegladiator> so guys
[11:05] <Xanadu> so thegladiator
[11:05] <thegladiator> yes
[11:05] <ohgone> bbl
[11:05] <kvarntun> anyone who can answer some questions about webcam problems?
[11:05] <paxmaster> there is no device node in /dev/
[11:05] <oklinux> did any one try wine in ubuntu ?
[11:05] <thegladiator> yeah
[11:05] <thegladiator> i have wine installed
[11:05] <sailor> Falstius, that was it... and it boots just fine
[11:05] <LinuxJones> So we will see Gnome 2.14 in Dapper tomorrow ?
[11:05] <Xanadu> oklinux: yeah running Photoshop just fine
[11:05] <selinium> silvaran, Cheers for the pointer. Have you used lftp? It has one of the biggest man pages I have seen in a while!
[11:05] <suryam> silvaran: hmm.. let me clarify: i do a server install, then i install xserver-xorg and xterm, then i run 'xinit `which xterm`'... at this point i cannot switch to the other VTs!
[11:05] <andrewPCT> i was upgraded to gnome 2.14 today
[11:05] <oklinux> so did it work ok really Xanadu
[11:06] <Xanadu> yeah works fine
[11:06] <sailor> Falstius, OK, now, I think I'll re-enable gdm on boot and try that... dunno whats going on
[11:06] <oklinux> what about IE
[11:06] <dos000_> ssam, any ideas ?
[11:06] <Xanadu> some stuff better than others
[11:06] <silvaran> suryam: Ohhh, mixing X into the bunch... never tried that... I went straight to dapper's ubuntu-desktop.
[11:06] <Falstius> sailor, go for it
[11:06] <thesilentkiller> can anyone suggest a good calendar server? typical clients in use are mozilla thunderbird and ms outlook
[11:06] <Xanadu> oklinux I even got google earth kinda working
[11:06] <thegladiator> Xanadu, why not gimp ?
[11:06] <LinuxJones> andrewPCT: but it's not released till tomorrow
[11:06] <suryam> silvaran: yeah... it looks like ubuntu-desktop has some xorg magic inside it
[11:06] <andrewPCT> ok
[11:06] <jwilliams> Hi all.  Has anyone tried to smoketest GNOME 2.14 on Breezy?  I get lots of "internal compiler error"s when compiling!
[11:06] <silvaran> selinium: I know a bit about lftp... it has tab and command completion, the only thing that pisses me off is the delayed connect (it doesn't actually connect until you type a command like ls and stuff).
[11:06] <Xanadu> thegladiator: I usually use gimp but photoshop good for some stuff, like animating gifs
[11:06] <thegladiator> isnt it as good as photoshpop ? ofcourse adbobe is a good company
[11:06] <thegladiator> ah
[11:07] <silvaran> suryam: It might have all the hardware detection utils necessary for automatic X setup as well.
[11:07] <selinium> silvaran, I just want to copy a file from one server to another....
[11:07] <EdLin> thesilentkiller, Ximian Connector (now from Novell) or some-such is one.
[11:07] <Xanadu> thegladiator: freedom to choose is what they mean by "linux is free" - perfect cause now I can choose the best tool for the job every time ;)
[11:07] <ohgone> selinium: scp it
[11:07] <ssam> dos000_, i am having a look
[11:07] <zF> Anyone have an Azureus <IP_ADDRESS> deb?
[11:07] <zF> Or should I just install the old version :[
[11:07] <thegladiator> :-)
[11:07] <silvaran> selinium: lftp will do it.  lftp user:password@hostname
[11:07] <suryam> silvaran: hmm.. i haven't had any hardware problems. i can run X just fine... only switching VTs doesn't work
[11:07] <dos000_> ssam, i am on breezy btw
[11:07] <sailor> Falstius, OK, it worked just fine
[11:07] <wastrel> ok i'm annoyed.  why is my wireless connection associtating with a random neighbor's AP, rather than mine (which is configured in /etc/network/interfaces)
[11:07] <selinium> ohgone, I only have ftp access to one server
[11:07] <silvaran> selinium: Then "put /path/to/local/file" or "get /path/to/remote/file"
[11:08] <ohgone> selinium: oh, well then
[11:08] <silvaran> suryam: Yah that's really weird...
[11:08] <sailor> Falstius, I have no idea why... but it concerns me that it's going to start doing it again
[11:08] <selinium> silvaran, cool!
[11:08] <silvaran> selinium: Of course, remote machine must have an FTP server running :)
[11:08] <thesilentkiller> EdLin: hmm ok.....thanks..i will have a look at it
[11:08] <cas> zF: you can also download azureus and run it in your home instead of installing it
[11:08] <zF> cas, I have the <IP_ADDRESS> tar.bz2, how do I run it?
[11:09] <selinium> silvaran, CHeers, It is my remote FTP backup server. I only have ftp access so it had better be working! :)
[11:09] <silvaran> Heh yah..
[11:09] <LogicalDash> Hi everyone, I've set up my Ubuntu to use my wireless network, but it takes a really long time at startup when it tries to establish network connections. I don't think I really need that step since all it does is synchronize the clock, is there any way to turn it off?
[11:09] <cas> zF: extract it and just execute the azurues
[11:09] <zF> execute the .jar?
[11:09] <cas> zF: but be sure you have java installed, the sun version
[11:09] <suryam> silvaran: argh... there has to be a better way... all this bloat is hurting me: gnome, evolution, metacity... *cringes*
[11:09] <zF> syntax is jar Azureus.jar?
[11:09] <ssam> dos000_, ok i think i have an answer
[11:10] <suryam> zF: java -jar the-jar-file
[11:10] <Falstius> sailor ... maybe.  Atleast now you have an idea on how to start fixing it if it comes back.
[11:10] <silvaran> suryam: After you're done, if you're picky, you can always remove ubuntu-desktop, then manually go through and remove the packages you don't want.  Synaptic does a nice job of warning you about other packages that might get hit in the anti-bloat crossfire :)
[11:10] <cas> zF: no, just `azureus` will do
[11:10] <ssam> dos000_, are you happy editing text files
[11:10] <servjew> hello. i have ubuntu installed on my PC and i have a video capture card. an ATI MSI theater 550 pro. its not being detected
[11:10] <dos000_> ssam, sure
[11:10] <ssam> dos000_, ok there is a folder /usr/share/xsessions
[11:10] <suryam> silvaran: true. thx for listening to my troubles :-)
[11:11] <Vann> Whenever i boot under ubuntu, I have no internet connection and it is "Unreachable" when I try to ping the router.  Any ideas how I fix that, it just started for no reason.
[11:11] <silvaran> suryam: Heh, not a problem... it's helpful to me, I'm interested in running ubunto on a server machine without a lot of heft in it... not being able to switch VTs would be nasty.
[11:11] <sailor> Falstius, yeah... I wonder what made it do it though...
[11:11] <MdSalih> anyone know of a mirror for ubuntu 6.04 dapper ?
[11:11] <allievo> Greetings, I'm installing Ubuntu and have already gotten myself into trouble. The installation asked me for my name, which contains "" (Nicely transformed into <E9>). The problem is that it will not accept this character, and I cannot remove it either.
[11:11] <dos000_> ssam, thats a dir with only gnome.desktop in it
[11:11] <wastrel> Vann:  wireless, dialup or ethernet?
[11:11] <zF> cas: I can't seem to get it to work.
[11:11] <Vann> wastrel, ethernet
[11:11] <allievo> Does anyone know of a way to remove it, or another work around, so that I won't have to restart the installation?
[11:11] <ssam> dos000_, and you need to make a matchbox.desktop file
[11:11] <zF> what's the syntax I run after I extract it?
[11:11] <Xanadu> Vaan: does pinging IP addresses work (as opposed to domain names?)
[11:11] <silvaran> MdSalih: Might want to check #ubuntu+1 -- mention whether you need a mirror for cd iso or repos
[11:12] <zF> I ran jar -jar Azureus2.jar and it gave me the proper syntax usage. :/
[11:12] <Falstius> sailor, did you do a dpkg-reconfigure ?
[11:12] <wastrel> Vann:  your system->administration->networking  all configured properly?
[11:12] <Vann> Xanadu, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> results in "Network Unreachable."
[11:12] <ssam> !pastebin
[11:12] <Vann> wastrel, not sure, but it was the last time i booted :/
[11:12] <silvaran> zF: java -jar, not jar -jar
[11:12] <yuri_> hi! anyone know of a gui for apache2?
[11:13] <silvaran> yuri_: Firefox
[11:13] <Xanadu> Vaan: try "ifconfig eth0" in your console and make sure you're on the right subnet (and that eth0 is there of course)
[11:13] <dos000_> ssam, lemme try
[11:13] <cas> allievo: reboot and select the "recovery mode", then do adduser to make a new user
[11:13] <silvaran> yuri_: Sorry, that was assholish .. what do you mean?
[11:13] <OmegaAlpha> !xgl
[11:13] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:13] <Vann> Xanadu, I did that and it was.
[11:13] <sailor> Falstius, no
[11:13] <allievo> Has no one in here ever give the installation a special character as mentioned above? I really don't want to start over with the installation
[11:13] <kage> what is the repo that has the package w32 codecs?
[11:13] <allievo> given*
[11:13] <ssam> dos000_, and put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10243 in it
[11:13] <Xanadu> Vaan: you using dhcp?
[11:13] <yuri_> I want use apache2 to run a server, but what i found in synaptic is all commandline. I'd like a gui
[11:13] <Vann> Xanadu, yeh
[11:13] <cas> allievo: you could use deluser to delete the user but because you have weird characters you prolly need to edit your /etc/passwd and /etc/groups manually
[11:14] <Paper> hi, anyone here is familiar with vmware ?
[11:14] <silvaran> yuri_: A GUI would really only be useful for configuration... apache just serves web pages based on static, or modules and other plugins... the magic is in the config file.
[11:14] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, is xgl for breezy?
[11:14] <allievo> cas: Um, well I'm in the installation process as I said, and I can't really access any files at the moment :/
[11:14] <silvaran> Paper: A little bit.
[11:14] <Spec> i'm fairly familiar with vmware, Paper
[11:14] <Xanadu> Vaan: I *think* sudo dhclient should refresh your DHCP stuff
[11:14] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, i think you need dapper
[11:14] <Spec> Paper: but not with running vmware workstation on linux
[11:14] <cas> OmegaAlpha: no only for dapper, you need x 7.0.0 for it
[11:14] <wastrel> sudo dhclient eth0
[11:14] <Paper> Ok cause im trying to add a physical drive to a vritual machine but i only get errors
[11:14] <Vann> Xanadu, alright, I'll try that when I reboot into ubuntu, thanks
[11:14] <OmegaAlpha> oh i thought so
[11:14] <Vann> mm'
[11:14] <OmegaAlpha> oh well no xgl for me till april 20th
[11:14] <silvaran> Paper: What kind of errors?
[11:14] <yuri_> i see,,, What's the easiest program to host a small server?
[11:15] <Paper> wait
[11:15] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, if you just want to try it out there is an xgl live cd
[11:15] <yuri_> ive used analogx simpleserver back in win
[11:15] <trent> I was wondering why limewire or mercury messenger does not recognise my installed jre.
[11:15] <kage> anyone know the pakage for all the codecs?
[11:15] <kage> package*
[11:15] <dos000_> ssam, not matchbox-ession in the executable ?
[11:15] <cas> allievo: where are you now, still in the installation?
[11:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell kage about multimedia
[11:15] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, nah im running low on cdr to burn it
[11:15] <Xanadu> Vaan: also check your subnet mask - make sure it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:15] <ssam> dos000_, possibly, i am not 100% sure
[11:15] <Paper> Silvaran: The specified device is not a valid physical device
[11:16] <Vann> Xanadu, how do i change it in case it isn't?
[11:16] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, its no biggie really i was just looking for somethign cool to play around with on ubuntu.. like 3ddesktop
[11:16] <Xanadu> Vaan: or could be a prob with the router's config of course
[11:16] <trent> I installed the latest jre.
[11:16] <silvaran> Paper: What /dev/ are you specifying for it?
[11:16] <OmegaAlpha> ssam, do you know VNC stuff?
[11:16] <ssam> dos000_, i based it off the openbox one
[11:16] <Paper> Silvaran: /dev/hdb1/
[11:16] <dos000_> ssam, ois there a way i can switch to it whithout loging out ?
[11:16] <sailor> Falstius, thanks for the help, I gotta run
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell kage about restricted
[11:16] <allievo> cas: Um, the strangest thing just happened. This was about the fifth time I tried to create the account with the special character, and now it worked :O
[11:16] <ssam> OmegaAlpha, no sorry
[11:16] <EdLin> trent, did you install it with java-package?
[11:16] <suryam> !acpi
[11:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, suryam
[11:16] <suryam> what is acpi?
[11:16] <ssam> dos000_, maybe matchbox --replace
[11:16] <Xanadu> Vaan: you can set your IP address manually with sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:16] <silvaran> Paper: Don't use the trailing slash ... if that's not it, make sure you can access the device through a command prompt like "sudo file /dev/hdb1" without errors
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell suryam about bootoptions
[11:16] <trent> EdLin, Java-package... I don't think so.  I downloaded it off the java website.
[11:17] <Paper> Silvaran: ok wait
[11:17] <Xanadu> Vaan: if it's DHCP then the server gives you your IP address and mask (and DNS servers usually too)
[11:17] <allievo> cas: But when I have gotten into the Ubuntu environment, how can I change the full name of my user?
[11:17] <OmegaAlpha> damn. anyone know about VNC?
[11:17] <zF> is there anyway I can "azurues" form the command line and have the terminal window exit after the program has been started?
[11:17] <cas> allievo: hehe, well be glad it works, I never used anything but ascii chars for usernames so I can't tell if you get problems with it
[11:17] <zF> So I don't have two windows open.
[11:17] <trent> EdLin, Should I install java-package from apt instead?
[11:17] <EdLin> trent, first you download it, then use java-package. The procedure is on the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki
[11:17] <Xanadu> Vaan: just make sure there's no other machine on .20 of course ;)
[11:17] <Vann> Xanadu, yup, i know how it works, just not the commands in ubunut :/
[11:17] <allievo> cas: It's not my username, it's my "full name", so there shouldn't be a problem I guess? :/
[11:17] <Hobbs`> holy shit /names was a bad idea :
[11:18] <Paper> Silvaran: /dev/hdb1: block special (3/65) | i get that on console when i type sudo file /dev/hdb1
[11:18] <Xanadu> Vaan: you can also check route -r which shows your default gateway etc
[11:18] <metalhedd> zF: why don't you just start it from a run dialog or the menu?'
[11:18] <ompaul> Hobbs`, mind the language please :)
[11:18] <silvaran> Paper: Was it the trailing slash causing the problem?  Or was that just a chat typo?
[11:18] <Hobbs`> k
[11:18] <Paper> Silvaran: and i still get an error without the trailing slash
[11:18] <Hobbs`> srry
[11:18] <cas> allievo: change it in your /etc/passwd
[11:18] <silvaran> Paper: Are you doing this within the running VM, or in vmware's settings on the host machine?
[11:18] <Paper> Silvaran: Invalid Argument without the slash
[11:18] <allievo> cas: ok, thank you for your help! :)
[11:19] <cas> allievo: and reboot after you done it to be sure, your welcome
[11:19] <Paper> in vmware, the settings of the host machine
[11:19] <silvaran> Paper: Where exactly are you specifying /dev/hdb1?
[11:19] <silvaran> Right... and you have a partitioned IDE drive with at least one partition on primary slave active in that machine?
[11:19] <Paper> silvaran: you can add a device, i chose hdd and physical
[11:20] <Paper> silvaran: yes it's all partitioned
[11:20] <clem_yeats> is it ok to use snapshot ? I mean is it stable enough for everyday desktop use ?
[11:20] <silvaran> Paper: Yeah I see it in the settings... so in the host machine it's visible as hdb1?
[11:20] <blekos> i dont know how this has happen, but the buttons in open office(eg writer) are not visible, while in kde they are (in gnome they act like having the hover effect=they bcome visible when u pass the mouse pointer over them)
[11:20] <Paper> silvaran: yes in /dev/hdb1
[11:20] <blekos> any ideas? can i change the theme somewhow?
[11:20] <Paper> silvaran: and when i use sudo fdisk -l
[11:21] <shiv> I have this file on my desktop install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh . How do I install it? I am a newbie plz help...
[11:21] <gatpandoa> the nvidia wiki sucks
[11:21] <Paper> silvaran: ive been able to mount it without any problems...
[11:21] <PierPP> %s/wiki//g
[11:21] <Paper> silvaran: in my host machine
[11:21] <silvaran> Paper: Is it unmounted, and accessible to vmware when you try to add it?
[11:22] <gazanfer> hello. i have 2 windows and 1 ubuntu boxes in this network. all of the computers can see and identify each other, except this one and and one of windows box. i didnt have this issue until i reinstalled ubuntu as server. can anyone help me?
[11:22] <gatpandoa> so apparently accroding to synaptic i have both legacy and non legacy nvidi drivers
[11:22] <gatpandoa> now what xanadu?
[11:22] <Paper> silvaran: its mounted in my current host machine as /media/storage/
[11:22] <silvaran> Paper: You need to unmount it
[11:22] <Jemt> Does the Ubuntu kernel has unionfs and squashfs modules included?
[11:22] <metalhedd> gazanfer, install samba?
[11:22] <shiv> I have this file on my desktop install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh . How do I install it? I am a newbie plz help...
[11:22] <Paper> silvaran: ok
[11:23] <suryam> silvaran: there's a package x-window-system-core... which ubuntu-desktop installs.  that might have the VT switching magic
[11:23] <metalhedd> shiv, chmod +x install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh
[11:23] <gazanfer> metalhedd, in fact, samba is installed in my opinion, because it is already identified as smb network or smthg like that
[11:23] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay where are you in this process? you changed your xorg.conf file yet?
[11:23] <metalhedd> shiv then ./install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh
[11:23] <silvaran> suryam: We're talking about the Alt-F1 to Alt-F6 stuff right? ... still sounds weird... all that stuff should be handled by init and agetty or whatever...
[11:23] <gatpandoa> no i havent yet changed that
[11:23] <silvaran> suryam: And Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go from X to console.
[11:23] <suryam> silvaran: we're talking switching to any VT from an X session.
[11:24] <Xanadu> okay type the following in a console:
[11:24] <silvaran> suryam: Yah... maybe it's an xorg.conf setting ... it's possible to disable it from within there...
[11:24] <Xanadu> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[11:24] <Xanadu> copy and paste into pastebin
[11:24] <metalhedd> gazanfer, so what exactly is the problem if it can see the smb network?
[11:24] <IGUESSIWASPUNKON> can i install ubuntu with the 2.4 kernel instead of the 2.6?
[11:24] <ozzie> hey guys
[11:24] <gatpandoa> what changes to i perform to it?
[11:25] <suryam> silvaran: that didn't work.. i have the following inside Section "ServerFlags": Option  "DontVTSwitch"  "no"
[11:25] <Seveas> IGUESSIWASPUNKON, no.
[11:25] <ozzie> how do i kill X server in the command line so i can install nvida drivers
[11:25] <Paper> silvaran: ok it works when unmounted, but is there a way for it to be mounted at the same time ??
[11:25] <gazanfer> metalhedd, i can only see one box in network, but cant see the other one.
[11:25] <IGUESSIWASPUNKON> Seveas, ok, thanks :)
[11:25] <cas> ozzie: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:25] <shiv> metalhedd: thanks a lot
[11:25] <silvaran> suryam: That sucks... and you have ubuntu-desktop installed and it STILL doesn't do that crap for you?  What if you start X with startx or gdm/kdm?
[11:25] <silvaran> suryam: Or xdm for that matter?
[11:25] <Xanadu> you'll be changing your BusID to something else, and you'll be changing "Driver" from i810 to "nvidia"
[11:25] <silvaran> Paper: NO, it is VERY DANGEROUS to do this.
[11:26] <suryam> silvaran: haven't installed ubuntu-desktop yet. i'm gonna try and see if the x-window-system-core does the magic
[11:26] <wastrel> "bah"
[11:26] <metalhedd> gazanfer, no idea then, sorry
[11:26] <Xanadu> The BusID depends on what you find in the lspci command
[11:26] <gazanfer> metalhedd, thx anyway
[11:26] <silvaran> Paper: If you want vmware to access it at the same time, it might be best to set it up as a windows share using samba, or if both host/guest are linux-based, NFS.
[11:26] <narg> cas: Woot, I got it all working. Thanks :)
[11:26] <gatpandoa> how do i find out my nvidia bus
[11:26] <wastrel> x-window-system-core is fine but you'll want a windowmanager
[11:26] <suryam> silvaran: i have xdm installed, but it doesn't show up once the boot sequence has finished
[11:26] <Xanadu> copy the output of that lspci command to pastebin and I'll look at it
[11:26] <Paper> silvaran: no my host is linux ubuntu and guest is win98
[11:26] <suryam> wastrel: xterm's all i need ;-P
[11:27] <cas> narg: hehe good to hear :)
[11:27] <Paper> silvaran: ill try using samba
[11:27] <silvaran> Paper: Best bet is to share it through samba.
[11:27] <Paper> silvaran: k thanks
[11:27] <suryam> here i go
[11:27] <Xanadu> at a guess it's probably PCI:1:0:0 or PCI:2:0:0
[11:28] <tjb891> ok, mabey im stupid but which color plug on my soundcard dot he speakers go in (my in the green one and it has a very faint sound)
[11:28] <gatpandoa> any way i can find out exactly?
[11:28] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: YES! Paste!
[11:28] <Makura> Can someone help me?  My programs randomly close all the time.
[11:29] <gatpandoa> Xanadu paste what?
[11:29] <ompaul> Makura, what version are you using?
[11:29] <Xanadu> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[11:29] <Makura> ompaul: Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy
[11:29] <trent> EdLin, In the part where it says about if you get the "no matching plugin" and you use the second backup command and I still get the same error what should I do? this function "DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin"
[11:29] <gatpandoa>  nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440 ]  (rev a3)
[11:29] <gatpandoa>  doesnt tell me bus
[11:29] <ompaul> Makura, what wm are you using?
[11:30] <Makura> ompaul: wm?  (Linux newbie)
[11:30] <ompaul> Makura, gnome / kde?
[11:30] <Xanadu> check the last line - there should be a number before it
[11:30] <suryam> Makura: window manager
[11:30] <Makura> ompaul: gnome
[11:30] <gatpandoa> 000:01:04.0 vga compatible
[11:31] <ompaul> Makura, is it any particular app or set off apps?
[11:31] <gatpandoa> thats al it says xanadu
[11:31] <Makura> ompaul: Games, Firefox, Gaim, everything.
[11:31] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: yeah that's the one
[11:31] <gatpandoa> lol so whats my bus
[11:32] <Amish> why not connect then type ls so it connects
[11:32] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: I *think* it should be 1:4:0
[11:32] <Amish> Woops
[11:32] <Amish> wrong window
[11:32] <Matt___> hey guys
[11:32] <ompaul> Makura, that is very strange, I suggest you do this, reboot the box, as it starts to boot, press escape when the 2 seconds for grub come up, choose memtest and leave the machine there to see if it detects faulty ram
[11:32] <Matt___> i am having the biggest problem
[11:32] <Xanadu> okay gatpandoa First you need to know what to do if it doesn't work
[11:33] <Matt___> i just insalled 5.10 on my other hdd
[11:33] <Xanadu> cause you won't have X
[11:33] <gatpandoa> i wrote it down
[11:33] <Matt___> and now grub is giving me error 21
[11:33] <Makura> ompaul: I've done that before.  There's nothing wrong with my hardware.
[11:33] <Matt___> i can even boot into windows....
[11:33] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: okay so you'll be able to edit your xorg.conf and set it back to what it was?
[11:33] <Makura> ompaul: I left it running for a couple of hours.
[11:33] <Matt___> I really Need Help!
[11:33] <gatpandoa> sudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf change nv to vga
[11:33] <wastrel> Makura:  maybe you're running out of drivespace
[11:34] <Makura> wastrel: I have 150 gigs free
[11:34] <Blippe> where is the READMDebian apt-build wants you to read?
[11:34] <wastrel> on the linux partition?
[11:34] <martyn_> i am having troble installing nvida driver via comand line i hit ctrl-alt+F1 to get in to comnad line then run the nvida install file but it wont let me install because the x sever is still running any ideas ?
[11:34] <gatpandoa> its not allowing paste in xcon
[11:34] <Matt___> i just insalled 5.10 on my other hdd
[11:34] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: even better: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[11:34] <Matt___> and now grub is giving me error 21
[11:34] <Xanadu> do that now
[11:34] <Makura> wastrel: This only runs on linux
[11:34] <suryam> martyn_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:34] <ompaul> Makura, do this >>df -h<< and put the output into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:34] <gatpandoa> i think i have conf.bak
[11:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa then if it doesn't work: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <martyn_> suryam: i tried that just says no cammand
[11:35] <vince_> hello
[11:35] <ompaul> !ask
[11:35] <Xanadu> gatpandoa so you're making a backup of xorg.conf that you can just easily restore from the command line
[11:35] <wastrel> bot's down it seems :]
[11:35] <Matt___> man
[11:35] <BSDinux> matt, maybe reinstalling grub helps?
[11:35] <suryam> martyn_: do: ls /etc/init.d/*dm
[11:35] <Matt___> how?
[11:35] <BSDinux> get a live cd
[11:35] <Matt___> and....
[11:35] <BSDinux> boot with the live cd and reinstall grub
[11:36] <BSDinux> i think it's grub-install
[11:36] <Matt___> ok booted
[11:36] <vince_> sorry i've got problems to install mixxx
[11:36] <Makura> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10244
[11:36] <martyn_> suryam: ok do u think that will kill the x server
[11:36] <gatpandoa> got it
[11:36] <gatpandoa> now what do edit
[11:36] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: AFTER you've backed up xorg.conf, open it with sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:36] <suryam> martyn_: yes. then u can install nvidia. and finally u start X again
[11:36] <Xanadu> Go down to that Section "Device" bit
[11:37] <Matt___> will i have to config anything?
[11:37] <martyn_> suryam: cheers be back in a mo if it does not lol
[11:37] <ompaul> Makura, did you use some software to "improve" your install?
[11:37] <Makura> ompaul: Huh?
[11:37] <ompaul> Makura, well you have lots of room :)
[11:37] <BSDinux> matt, you only need to define where grub should be installed... ie the harddisk where it should be.
[11:37] <Xanadu> change "i810" to "vga" (we'll change it to nvidia later - let's just make sure we're accessing the right bus first ;))
[11:37] <BSDinux> for example grub-install /dev/hda
[11:37] <Makura> ompaul: I also have something in the terminal from a game crash that happened
[11:37] <ompaul> Makura, paste the result of this >>free<<
[11:37] <Matt___> hmm, well i have 2 hdds
[11:37] <Matt___> one with win and one with ubuntu
[11:37] <Xanadu> change PCI:0:1:0 to whatever I said above
[11:38] <Matt___> i tryed installing ubuntu on one
[11:38] <ompaul> Makura, paste any text info there
[11:38] <Matt___> and so i used grub as my boot loader
[11:38] <Makura> ompaul: Here's what you told me to do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10245
[11:38] <gatpandoa> what do i put in driver part
[11:38] <soop> anyone here running wine?
[11:38] <Matt___> now it isn't working, just giving me error 21
[11:38] <gatpandoa> under Device what should i out in as Driver?
[11:38] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: "vga" (for now - we'll change it again later if it works)
[11:39] <BSDinux> try a "grub-install /dev/hda" (in case you have ide-harddisks)
[11:39] <gatpandoa> as bus xanadu
[11:39] <Makura> ompaul: Here's the other info - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10246
[11:39] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: Driver "vga"
[11:39] <gatpandoa> and bus xanadu?
[11:39] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: BusID "1:4:0"
[11:39] <Matt___> BSDinux, will that effect anything if my ubunut drive is slave>
[11:39] <kage> how do I mount my windows partition and give my user account ownership?
[11:40] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: now save it and close gedit
[11:40] <wastrel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:40] <allievo> I was told that I could change my full name in "/etc/passwd" which seems impossible, could anyone please tell me where to do this?
[11:40] <Chodder> chuckyp, you still around? If so I need that tap option for X again, I forgot it :/
[11:40] <kage> thanks
[11:40] <BSDinux> i don't think so. grub should recognize ubuntu and win... if not you can later change it in the menu.lst in /boot/grub
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: you're going to be on your own a bit while you restart X so touch wood, cross fingers and whatever else you do for luck
[11:41] <ompaul> Makura, >> ps auwx | grep jamp.exe | grep -v grep <<
[11:41] <wastrel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:41] <gatpandoa> lol
[11:41] <gatpandoa> thanks buddy
[11:41] <Makura> ompaul: all in one line
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: close everything (including XChat) and then hit "ctrl-alt-backspace"
[11:41] <ompaul> Makura, you bettcha
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: if it works we'll see you here again soon
[11:41] <gatpandoa> i dont fel and sound like a newbie no more even though ive only had the o/s installed 3 days ago
[11:41] <soundray> allievo: what's the problem when you try to edit /etc/passwd?
[11:41] <Makura> ompaul: What was it supposed to do?  There was no output in the terminal.
[11:41] <Xanadu> gatpandoa: if not sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:42] <gatpandoa> k xan
[11:42] <wastrel> what's jamp.exe?
[11:42] <Xanadu> and then "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo gdm"
[11:42] <ompaul> Makura, that is okay, it was going to or not produce output
[11:42] <martyn_> i am trying to kill the x server via the cmd line via crtl+alt+f1 was told to typ ls /ect/init.d/*dm  got file  or dir does not exist any ideas
[11:42] <BSDinux> sounds like a win executable
[11:42] <Makura> ompaul: Okay
[11:42] <Xanadu> gatpandoa or just restart
[11:42] <ompaul> wastrel, some wine based game he appears to run
[11:42] <Matt___> BSDinux: this is what i get "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[11:42] <gatpandoa> l8r
[11:42] <ompaul> Makura, >> ps auwx | grep wine | grep -v grep <<
[11:42] <Makura> ompaul: And for gaim, for a while it was crashing when I tried to send a message or let IRC connect >_<  For Firefox, if I tried to download or save as it crashed.
[11:43] <Makura> ompaul: Done.
[11:43] <kage> how do I give ownership of a certain directory to a user?
[11:43] <_jason> kage: chown
[11:43] <ompaul> Makura, any output?
[11:43] <ompaul> Makura, pastebin please
[11:43] <Matt___> yeah so it won't let me install grub
[11:43] <wastrel> don't use chown unless you know what you're doing.
[11:43] <martyn_> i am trying to kill the x server via the cmd line via crtl+alt+f1 was told to typ ls /ect/init.d/*dm  got file  or dir does not exist any ideas
[11:43] <Makura> ompaul: No output.
[11:43] <BSDinux> what kind of hds are you using? serial or parallel?
[11:44] <_jason> martyn_: try /etc not /ect
[11:44] <soundray> wastrel, the same applies to scalpels ;)
[11:44] <martyn_> lol
[11:44] <Matt___> hmmm
[11:44] <Matt___> ide
[11:44] <MisterN> n8
[11:44] <Matt___> so parallel
[11:44] <martyn_> _jason: thx that mite help ;p
[11:44] <BSDinux> k
[11:45] <Makura> ompaul: Did you mean for the last command you gave me?
[11:45] <metalhedd> martyn_, it might... it will tell you the location of the script that starts the gui login manager. but it wont kill X
[11:45] <ompaul> Makura, you can't if you have no output :)
[11:45] <rnd_null> i am about to install Ubuntu linux, i'm very new to linux, someone suggested ubuntu to me.  i run an athlon 64, is there any reason that i should not install the 64bit version and just install the 32bit version?
[11:45] <suryam> martyn_: that LS was for you to find which dm your system was using
[11:45] <Matt___> rnd_null
[11:45] <Makura> ompaul: I was just wondering what output you wanted
[11:45] <Matt___> dont install 64bit
[11:45] <ompaul> Makura, have you installed any program not using "synaptic package manager"
[11:45] <Makura> ompaul: Obviously for ps auwx | grep wine | grep -v grep there was none though
[11:45] <rnd_null> why not?
[11:45] <richard_> how can i see php code in my computer?
[11:46] <suryam> oh well
[11:46] <Makura> ompaul: Yeah. =\
[11:46] <Xanadu> richard_: open the file
[11:46] <Matt___> unless you know that all your hardware is 64bit compadible
[11:46] <metalhedd> richard_, open a php file with a text editor ?
[11:46] <soundray> rnd_null: amd64 works great for me, except that some applications are only available for 32bit. Notably Macromedia Flash plugin for Firefox.
[11:46] <ompaul> Makura, what did you use? (gulp)
[11:46] <Makura> ompaul: Terminal
[11:46] <rnd_null> i see, that why dsl and mepis dont work then...
[11:46] <rnd_null> thank you
[11:46] <Matt___> rnd_null: just stick with 32bit
[11:46] <jadaz87> hello everyone
[11:46] <rnd_null> yep
[11:46] <rnd_null> thats what it's gonna be
[11:47] <rnd_null> : )
[11:47] <Matt___> BDSinux: anyidea?
[11:47] <richard_> Xanadu: now i want to see the page in my computer? i use apache but i don't know where can i put it
[11:47] <ompaul> Makura, what did you use in the terminal? for instance did you use non .deb packages
[11:47] <Xanadu> richard_: /var/www/somedirectory
[11:47] <Makura> ompaul: compiling stuff from tar.gz
[11:47] <BSDinux> yeah wait.. i think i had to mount the ubuntu distro as root when i reinstalled grub
[11:47] <rnd_null> any tips on the ubuntu install i might like to know?
[11:47] <Xanadu> richard_: then point browser to http://localhost/somedirectory
[11:47] <metalhedd> rnd_null, its a breeeeze
[11:47] <rnd_null> thanks
[11:48] <BSDinux> just booted with the live cd, then mounted the ubuntu partition, then chrooted to ubuntu
[11:48] <Matt___> are you going to dual boot?
[11:48] <soundray> rnd_null, avoid LVM unless you have some experience with it.
[11:48] <BSDinux> i have a quad-boot... ;-)
[11:48] <metalhedd> rnd_null, ubuntu has one of the easiest installs i've used.
[11:48] <rnd_null> no, i'm going straight linux
[11:48] <Matt___> ok
[11:48] <Matt___> go for it
[11:48] <Matt___> you'll have alot of fun
[11:48] <BSDinux> ubuntu/winxp/freebsd/macosx
[11:48] <Klick_> http://pastebin.com/602557  hey all can anyone tell me why after i install XGL can i NOT open up gnome?
[11:48] <BSDinux> got it up and running
[11:48] <_jason> allievo: chfn command
[11:48] <rnd_null> i'm through with microshaft, they belong in the circus, the only os that is self destructive
[11:48] <ompaul> Makura, what did you compile from tar.gz?
[11:49] <Makura> ompaul: A bunch of stuff =\
[11:49] <Matt___> BSDinux: ?
[11:49] <metalhedd> rnd_null, good call, I haven't touched windows (except for at work) in 5 years
[11:49] <ompaul> Makura, I would suggest that may be where the problem lies
[11:49] <kage> i typed "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" and I get this :
[11:49] <BSDinux> i think you have to do it that way.. chroot to your ubuntu hd
[11:49] <rnd_null> thats what i would like to say 5 years from now
[11:49] <Matt___> man i am still a n00b
[11:49] <b33r> how can I install wine?
[11:49] <Makura> ompaul: Ack, but what is the problem? >_<
[11:49] <kage> hold on a sec I messed up XD
[11:49] <raheel> hi
[11:49] <Makura> ompaul: Did you read the other output I pasted?
[11:49] <Matt___> could you help me BSDinux?
[11:50] <ompaul> Makura, I am going to get the bot to send you a set of pages about how you should install stuff in ubuntu, I have read all you posted
[11:50] <raheel> can anyone help me work realplayer in the mozillla firefox browser
[11:50] <metalhedd> rnd_null, it takes time to figure out how to do all th things yoou used to be able to do before, but once you get it figured out you'll just have no need to boot back to windows ever.
[11:50] <jadaz87> has anyone had success with installing ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[11:50] <raheel> this is the only thing that isnt working for me
[11:50] <weedar> jadaz87, sure
[11:50] <metalhedd> jadaz87, I did once.
[11:50] <Makura> ompaul: I install stuff only if I can't get it from Synaptic, but what do you suggest I do
[11:50] <soundray> jadaz87: it *can* work.
[11:50] <BSDinux> matt, just a moment
[11:50] <b33r> can anyone tell me how 2 install wine?
[11:50] <jadaz87> weedar: i keep running into the cannot find kernel source problem
[11:50] <Matt___> sure
[11:51] <soundray> b33r: how about 'sudo apt-get install wine'?
[11:51] <weedar> jadaz87, in that case - install the kernel source =)
[11:51] <metalhedd> jadaz87, you need to install a kernel source tree. check synaptic for
[11:51] <raheel> can anyone help me with realplayer in the mozilla browser
[11:51] <raheel> pleaee
[11:51] <wastrel> Makura:  did you add univers & multivers repositories?
[11:51] <rnd_null> i tried linux back in 95 and didn't have a really good time, i just recently (last month) found out how far it's come in useability and have decided to give it a try again
[11:51] <ompaul> Makura, you see I find that hard to believe cos there are over 17000 packages in synaptic for 5.10
[11:51] <raheel> i already installed realplayer 10 on my computer
[11:51] <Random_Transit> hey, how do i uninstall old kernels?
[11:51] <Makura> wastrel: I believe I did
[11:51] <gazanfer> anybody knows which package do i need to setup samba?
[11:51] <richard_> Xanadu: Thank you... now i can see my pages... Thanks a lot
[11:51] <kage> I type in "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" and I get this message: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error
[11:51] <raheel> but i cant get to work on streaming audio
[11:51] <kage> any help?
[11:51] <Makura> ompaul: What about Hamachi?
[11:51] <ompaul> wastrel, allready there got the bot to give Makura lots
[11:51] <Xanadu> richard_: np
[11:52] <metalhedd> rnd_null, took me 3 years or so of going back and forth before I found a distro (gentoo) that taught me enough that I never needed to go back to windows again
[11:52] <Makura> ompaul: What should I do about this though?
[11:52] <jadaz87> weedar: oh ok thanks because i was afraid i whould end up not using ubuntu :-Z i am on suse 10.0 right now :-\
[11:52] <soundray> rnd_null: back then you didn't have a chance, unless you compiled your own kernel...
[11:52] <wastrel> okey dokey
[11:52] <raheel> can anyone help with realplayer
[11:52] <max> hello all, i have made dmraid work with a ubuntu instalation "from scratch" with a breezylivecd
[11:52] <Random_Transit> kage....worst case scenario...the NTFS drive's boot sector is borked
[11:52] <weedar> jadaz87, I haven't used Suse in years so I don't know how easy it is to use, but Ubuntu has so far the best distribution I've tried/used :)
[11:52] <rnd_null> i played with gentoo a little and i dont like the gentoo command line
[11:53] <soundray> kage, maybe you don't have an NTFS on hda1?
[11:53] <BSDinux> matt open a terminal and create a folder for your orignial ubuntu
[11:53] <metalhedd> rnd_null, the command line is pretty much the same in every distro
[11:53] <ompaul> Makura, okay well first off I don't know whats taking down your machine, and without it here and watching at whats going on I don't think I can find the actual culprit
[11:53] <Chodder> command lines? how does gentoo bash differ from ubuntu bash?
[11:53] <kage> it's XP so it's ntfs right?
[11:53] <Chodder> lol
[11:53] <Xanadu> raheel: never heard of anyone running realplayer in firefox under linux but you should try the mplayer firefox plugin - might just play those ra files
[11:53] <rnd_null> right, but there's just something about it...not sure what
[11:53] <BSDinux> sudo mkdir /ubuntu for example
[11:53] <rnd_null> its like uncomfortable socks
[11:53] <soundray> kage, is it on hda1 for sure?
[11:53] <max> trying to install the 2.6.15-6 kernel, its impossible to manage dmraid to work with it?
[11:53] <raheel> i have all the plugins
[11:53] <weedar> jadaz87, what you could do is try "uname -r" in console to find out which kernel version you're using and then do a search for a kernel-headers package for that version :) If you use synaptic or adept that should be easy :)
[11:53] <Makura> ompaul: Oh..
[11:53] <raheel> but they just wont work
[11:53] <metalhedd> rnd_null, I actually like it better than ubuntu's if anything.. its coloured better by default :)
[11:53] <Matt___> ok
[11:53] <kage> i'm fairly sure, I tried hda2 as well and got the same message
[11:54] <jadaz87> weedar: yes i know that is why i wanted to get ndiswrapper to work on ubuntu :-)
[11:54] <virus> I'm having some troubles logging into another Ubuntu Box via XDMCP - the GUI is far from snappy - it's not a network issue as x apps started via "ssh -X" work as expected: fast and snappy. Just XDMCP is causing this problems. I'm running Ubuntu Breezy on both boxes.
[11:54] <Matt___> BSDinux: pm me
[11:54] <Makura> ompaul: Well, can you tell me where I might learn to install windows and use a dual boot so I can just run stuff off windows?
[11:54] <ompaul> Makura, it is not something one usually sees, I don't know that program, I had a quick look at it
[11:54] <Random_Transit> kage, do you have entries for hda* in /etc/fstab?
[11:54] <Matt___> this place is getting to crowded
[11:54] <jadaz87> weedar: oh ok so just install all the kernel headers?
[11:54] <rnd_null> metalhead, is this how i make the text red?
[11:54] <kage> let me check
[11:54] <weedar> jadaz87, yes - the one that matches your kernel version
[11:54] <kage> no
[11:55] <rnd_null> metalhedd, is this red?
[11:55] <Matt___> ok i mkdir now
[11:55] <metalhedd> rnd_null, yep
[11:55] <Random_Transit> hmm..okay, so then doing a sudo mount -a won't work
[11:55] <ompaul> Makura, lots of pages there for you to read, when you are done I would consider the following if it is not native to Ubuntu then you need to be very careful about building a package
[11:55] <rnd_null> metalhedd, ok, so now it should easier
[11:55] <BSDinux> don't know how to pm.. lol. k, now mount your ubuntu harddisk.. sudo mount /dev/hdb /ubuntu
[11:55] <jadaz87> weedar: because there are a couple i think i have to install the 386 version
[11:56] <MdSalih> GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin.X L0 0br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 Error: command could not be executed! Please install the X server or correct GDM configuration and restart GDM
[11:56] <MdSalih> ANyone know what taht means :-.
[11:56] <MdSalih> and how to fix ?
[11:56] <Matt___> BSDinux: i must specify the filesystem type
[11:56] <Matt___> ext3?
[11:56] <max> Q: dmraid & 2.6.15-6 kernel... Getting "Unknow symbol in module" and I/O errors on booting up.
[11:56] <Makura> ompaul: I didn't understand the last part you said =P
[11:56] <rnd_null> metalhedd, when i tried nix before i used slackware with xwindows
[11:56] <jadaz87> weedar: that is what the kernel messages say when i first boot up before the ubuntu splash screen comes up
[11:56] <metalhedd> rnd_null, how is the font color in your irc client going to make the command line easier? :)
[11:56] <Random_Transit> kage, do you mind if i PM you?...as Matt____ said, it's crowded here...
[11:56] <Random_Transit> anyone else who can possibly help kage is free to join in...
[11:56] <weedar> jadaz87, if you write "uname -r" in a console window, what output does that give you?
[11:56] <kage> Random Transit: no, I don't
[11:56] <kage> I don't mind
[11:56] <soundray> kage, what partition is Ubuntu root on? (First line of your "mount" output)
[11:56] <rnd_null> metalhedd, i did it so you can see me better
[11:56] <metalhedd> rnd_null,  I see I see.
[11:56] <BSDinux> hmm... is hdb your ubuntu hd?
[11:57] <kage> soundray 1sec lol
[11:57] <kage> hda3
[11:57] <metalhedd> rnd_null, It was fine before though :)
[11:57] <richard_> Xanadu: I have another question... why i can save any page in this directory? /var/www
[11:57] <Matt___> im pretty sure
[11:57] <BSDinux> ah
[11:57] <rnd_null> metalhedd, ok
[11:57] <Matt___> well it was / when i formated it
[11:57] <jadaz87> weedar: it says 2.6.12-9-386
[11:57] <BSDinux> should be hdb1
[11:57] <BSDinux> because that's the partition
[11:57] <Matt___> ok it did
[11:57] <Matt___> it mnted
[11:58] <jocke1s> hello everybody. I am trying to install Krusader 1.7 deb but I seem to be missing libqt3c102-mt ?? Any ideas how to fix that?
[11:58] <nicholaspaul> Samba trouble : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart doesnt do anything. Anyone know why that might be?
[11:58] <digital00> ri-sera
[11:58] <BSDinux> now activate it by using sudo chroot /ubuntu
[11:58] <nicholaspaul> jocke1s, might be obvious, but you can try googling for it.
[11:58] <max> dmraid & 2.6.15-6 kernel... --- OK compiling, but getting "Unknow symbol in module" and I/O errors on booting up.
[11:58] <soundray> kage, have you got the ntfsprogs package installed?
[11:58] <Blissex> jocke1s: if you use an APT frontend that should not have happened.
[11:58] <Matt___> ok
[11:58] <Matt___> done
[11:58] <kage> I doubt it...unless it's installed by default...
[11:58] <Blissex> jocke1s: it looks like anyhow that you are installing a binary for a different version of Ubuntu than the one you have installed.
[11:59] <BSDinux> k, now you are in your original ubuntu again... try sudo grub-install /dev/hda now
[11:59] <Xanadu> richard_: er what do you mean?
[11:59] <Blissex> jocke1s: 'libqt3c102-mt' is for Hoary and before.
[11:59] <Matt___> ok
[12:00] <BSDinux> did it work?