[00:01] <sasori> genii-around: before i reboot, what was that remount you 're referring to, earlier ?
[00:01] <admon> hola
[00:01] <SpyderZ> Ok, when I try to do  # X -configure I am getting this error: http://pastebin.com/RtnSevs6
[00:01] <admon> buenass
[00:02] <SpyderZ> Any ideas on how to make sure Ubuntu is using the S3 driver?
[00:02] <genii-around> sasori: If you did not get a second screen prompting whether you wanted to remount the filesystem as writeable, don't worry about it
[00:02] <SpyderZ> I'm trying to get my second VGA screen working.
[00:02] <sasori> ok cool
[00:02] <admon> a
[00:02] <bazhang> !es | admon
[00:04] <zykotick9> sasori, recovery - sorry was thinking livecd
[00:04] <zykotick9> genii-around, sorry wasn't thinking about the right thing.  see above ;)
[00:04] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, vmware looking issue to me.
[00:04] <SpyderZ> zykotick9: I'm not using vmware at all.
[00:06] <kurisu> ok so after looking around I'm getting a fatal server error in xorg.1.log.old.... have there been any updates in the last 2 / 3 days to xorg???
[00:07] <daniel> for some reason when i login i don't get unity, i get a file menu
[00:07] <daniel> seems even a step down from gnome classic, no applications on the menu
[00:07] <daniel> as though it loads into nautilus
[00:08] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, that appears to be a vmware driver that X is failing to load??
[00:08] <daniel> i tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but it didnt help
[00:08] <SpyderZ> how do I install everything vmware?
[00:10] <SpyderZ> This is my first 24 hours in unbent…I'm familiar with Centos. Seems a lot is different between the two distributions. Like RPM and yum for example.
[00:10] <arooni-mobile> gure how can i verify what is running on port 6379
[00:10] <phlux> MeQuerSat: Just letting you know the boot fix disc got me up-and-running. Thanks for the suggestion. Any ideas what leads to that happening?
[00:10] <zykotick9> daniel, do you have a 2nd user on the system?  can they log into unity?
[00:10] <sasori> my system is fixed now.. thanks alot genii-around  &  zykotick9  :D
[00:10] <genii-around> sasori: Good! :)
[00:11] <daniel> zykotick9: i have a guest, i should try that
[00:11] <zykotick9> arooni-mobile, "lsof | grep 6379" might work
[00:11] <arooni-mobile> zykotick9, if i dont see anythere there?
[00:12] <arooni-mobile> nevermind i needed to be admin for that command
[00:12] <zykotick9> arooni-mobile, non-conclusive test really.  you need someone to give you the port testing method.
[00:15] <daniel> i can login as guest and i get unity...are there some files under home i can remove to get back to default config somehow?
[00:17] <SpyderZ> Yeah, this second monitor thing is almost a deal killer for me here.
[00:17] <SpyderZ> If I can't get it working in 1 hour I'm going to have to go back to crappy Windows.
[00:18] <murfie> SpyderZ: I yawn at you
[00:18] <SpyderZ> murfie: I wish your yawn was the answer.
[00:19] <murfie> heheh
[00:19] <murfie> didn't work?
[00:19] <daniel> SpyderZ: why dont you go back to crappy windows?
[00:20] <SpyderZ> I rather get Ubuntu working.
[00:20] <Jeruvy> SpyderZ, how about some details then?
[00:20] <SpyderZ> But every time I try a Linux desktop there is always something that is a deal killer in regards to usability.
[00:20] <murfie> ubuntu is only for 1 monitor, really
[00:21] <murfie> there was no deal in first place, afaik
[00:21] <yagoo> murfie, xorg is pretty much a pita..
[00:22] <murfie> yagoo: yes, that's part of the deal..
[00:22] <SpyderZ> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a Fujitsu Amilo V2055 running S3 video. The main LCD is cracked so it depends on a external VGA. When booting the VGA displays the startup, but as soon as it logs in the external display goes to sleep. When in the display prefs it only shows an unknown monitor for the main cracked LCD with now recognition of the VGA extended monitor.
[00:23] <murfie> uncrack your lcd?
[00:23] <yagoo> murfie, you have to setup the serverlayout properly, or if xorg.conf isn't used, xrandr is the tool to use (if xrandr shows incorrect info-- like only 1 monitor.. then you need to setup an xorg.conf file)
[00:23] <SpyderZ> Have a time machine?
[00:23] <murfie> SpyderZ: no sorry :(
[00:24] <murfie> I do have an internet connection to connect to ebay though.. where I could find a spare lcd
[00:25] <murfie> yes to be honest, ubuntu sucks at using more than 1 screen
[00:26] <SpyderZ> Ugh
[00:26] <kclark> Anyone know what patch for aircrack work's best with kernel 3.0.0?
[00:26] <SpyderZ> Glad I didn't install this on my desktop which has six screens!!
[00:27] <murfie> oh.. I meant ubuntu sucks at using 2 screens. 6 is no problem of course
[00:27] <murfie> kclark: why.. doesn't it work?
[00:28] <kclark> I'm getting a hunk failed message murfie
[00:28] <murfie> I never fail
[00:28] <kclark> I'm using the patch available on aircrack's website
[00:29] <kclark> Can I PM you murfie?
[00:29] <murfie> no use
[00:29] <murfie> I'd only point you in the wrong direction
[00:30] <stevecam> what role does ubuntu provide to its users?
[00:30] <kclark> lol, well thanks for being honest.  I can only find a 2.6 patch out there and no info on it working with 3.0.0
[00:45] <a6r40x1m3n35> hi
[00:49] <segismundo> hey, can anyone who lives or has been to amsterdam pm me plz?
[00:49] <jrib> !ot | segismundo
[00:49] <segismundo> uh ok
[00:50] <murfie> segismundo: me
[00:51]  * murfie is in amsterdam
[00:51] <murfie> and I run ubuntu
[00:52] <murfie> so it's not OT
[00:52] <jrib> murfie: this channel is for ubuntu support, not ubuntu *whatever* :)
[00:52] <murfie> hmm
[00:52] <murfie> but.., but..
[00:52] <murfie> amsterdam is _built_ on ubuntu
[00:52] <murfie> really.......
[00:53] <murfie> you know the anne frank house?
[00:53] <murfie> what they did.. was just apt-get install anne-frankhouse
[00:54] <murfie> canals? same.... - `dig canals`
[00:54] <zykotick9> murfie, please stop the "chit-chat", if you want to chat use  #ubuntu-offtopic - the quiet in #ubuntu right now is amazing, but still doesn't mean it's ok to talk OT
[00:54] <szal> very funny, but still wrong place here
[00:55] <SpyderZ> LIghtDM display is failing on start up.
[00:55] <atkrad> how do display list of package can upgrade with 'apt-get'
[00:55] <SpyderZ> Is there away I can bypass and start up to CLI?
[00:55] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, can you CTRL+ALT+F1 ? (use c+a+f7 to get back btw)
[00:56] <SpyderZ> zkotick9: On boot X is failing…and halting in the startup. I need to tell Ubuntu not to boot to X and just go to the cli
[00:56] <zykotick9> !tab > SpyderZ
[00:57] <SpyderZ> Thanks
[00:57] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, can you boot recovery from grub to fix it?  (hold shift after BIOS to get menu if you currently don't see it)
[00:57] <SpyderZ> Thanks
[00:59] <atkrad> how do select and upgrade packages?
[00:59] <zykotick9> atkrad, you can use -s to simulate what apt-get will do (but i'm not very fond of the output myself)
[00:59] <Agentul^007> :P
[00:59]  * murfie hopes this channel is not full of autists, but also with human ppl
[01:00] <Agentul^007> who likes my ip:D
[01:00] <rodhash> Hello guys.. Does anyone know this error message?
[01:00] <rodhash> (emerald:2591): Wnck-CRITICAL **: wnck_workspace_get_height: assertion `WNCK_IS_WORKSPACE (space)' failed
[01:01] <atkrad> tnx
[01:01] <Agentul^007> who likes my ip:D??
[01:01] <murfie> as a side note, somebody please explain how to put up a l2tpv3 tunnel in ubuntu 10.04
[01:01] <JasonGriffee> software install is stuck on "waiting apt-get to exit". causes?
[01:01] <murfie> Agentul^007: maybe ask another 100 times
[01:02] <Agentul^007> :)))
[01:02] <Agentul^007> oya
[01:02] <Agentul^007> 150:P
[01:03] <Agentul^007> Dream nice ipv6 :P
[01:04] <Dream> Oh why thank you Agentul^007
[01:04] <Agentul^007> Dream  is first time wen i using ipv6 and i am happy:P
[01:04] <pangolin> !ot
[01:05] <atkrad> how do change my computer name
[01:05] <jrib> !hostname | atkrad
[01:05] <murfie> or go to the town hall
[01:07] <kicker> can someone help me please.... i have little experience w/  linux/ubuntu
[01:08] <etzerd> hello all
[01:08] <Red-Bull> hello. i have ubuntu 11.10 64bit and a question about ipv6 tunnel from hurriance..
[01:08] <Red-Bull> when i got ping6 ipv6.google.com the first packets get dropped
[01:08] <Red-Bull> i get reply after 20sek..
[01:09] <Red-Bull> and i dont know why
[01:09] <murfie> problem with changing hostname it that you've always leftovers of the old hostname in files like /etc/printcap, /etc/mailname etc
[01:09] <swipeologist> Hi. anyone know of any decent VoIP apps for ubuntu 11.10 64bit?
[01:09] <etzerd> how do I increase the font on ubuntu 11.10?
[01:09] <lelis> hola
[01:09] <lelis> hpla\
[01:09] <arelis> ksksks
[01:10] <arelis> ksalsakl
[01:10] <lelis> aajaja
[01:10] <xangua> install gnome-tweak-tool etzerd
[01:10] <kicker> when i installed ubuntu last night it had my name on the administrator and a password... i cant do anything. what should i do?
[01:10] <murfie> or buy glasses, etzerd
[01:10] <kicker> i didnt set a password
[01:11] <etzerd> thanks
[01:11] <murfie> welcome
[01:11] <xangua> kicker: you did, you seem to have forgoten it
[01:11] <murfie> try the name of your girlfriend
[01:12] <stevecam> when copying a large file, the rest of my system becomes slugish, how can i prevent this?
[01:12] <kicker> could it be from when i had a previous verison?
[01:13] <jrib> murfie: please stay on-topic in this channel.  If you want to chit-chat about random things, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <kicker> and i have a boyfriend not a girl... cant deal with em  haha..
[01:13] <murfie> renice +19 `pidof cp`
[01:13] <murfie> kicker: there lies your problem
[01:14] <kicker> is there anything i can do to reset it
[01:14] <jrib> !password | kicker
[01:15] <murfie> probably easiest is just to reinstall since you didn't do much with it yet anyway
[01:15] <canterer> how can I remove all of resource about vim
[01:15] <jrib> canterer: what do you mean exactly?
[01:16] <canterer> I want to install vim once more
[01:16] <jrib> canterer: why?
[01:16] <kicker> thanks everyone..
[01:16] <murfie> apt-get purge ^vim.*
[01:16] <canterer> I want to configer my vim to suit my develop envirment
[01:17] <murfie> vi ~/.vimrc
[01:19] <jrib> canterer: why do you want to install vim once more in order to configure vim?  Why don't you just configure vim now?
[01:19] <atkrad> how do load alias on all users?
[01:20] <canterer> I  have installed several versions of vim
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> Hi, is anyone running in EFI-mode? (Preferably on Lenovo (and then Preferably X121e))
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> ?
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> I have run into some issues with efibootmgr
[01:20] <murfie> echo alias bla=blabla >> /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> probably firmware related though
[01:21] <nechayev> ok ubernoob question here...i boot to tty1, run xinit, play something with sound, there is no sound in x, but there is in tty1
[01:22] <murfie> click the unmute button
[01:22] <nechayev> checked that, nothing is muted, everything is turned up all the way
[01:23] <nechayev> just checked again as well
[01:23] <atkrad> how do change bash prompt?
[01:23] <kicker> hey murf you were right... it was my partners name... ive never used that for a password.. wow.. i wasted so much time.. lol
[01:24] <murfie> export PS1=bla
[01:25] <murfie> of course you did
[01:26] <atkrad> tnx murfie.
[01:27] <murfie> you probably want some \u \h and \w's in it
[01:29] <gmt_> does anyone know what the audio device is now called? I need to capture audio with VLC, /dev/dsp and /dev/audio don't exist.
[01:30] <murfie> export PS1="hello \u on \h, you are now in \w, what can I do for you? "
[01:31] <murfie> njancat?
[01:32] <ayrton_> wine chat?
[01:32] <rhoenix> hellooo
[01:32] <bazhang> ayrton_, #winehq
[01:32] <rhoenix> may i join?
[01:32] <murfie> wine is not emacs
[01:33] <bazhang> rhoenix, ubuntu support question?
[01:33] <atkrad> what is 'njancat'?
[01:33] <stevecam> how would i prevent the rest of my computer from not responding when copying a large (5GB+) file
[01:33] <rhoenix> hmmm.
[01:34] <murfie> google njancat and feel lucky
[01:34] <Artemis3> proper spell is nyan isn't?
[01:37] <murfie> it is
[01:38] <atkrad> h
[01:42] <ggkjgjhg> h
[01:43] <ggkjgjhg> what is the best channel to contact the engineers for lenovo thinkpad firmware. i get the idea my bug reports don't get through support.....
[01:44] <ggkjgjhg> then maybe I am wrong and it is due to software problems..
[01:44] <ikonia> ggkjgjhg: email lenovo
[01:44] <Artemis3> go to lenovo hq with a huge banner in chinese?
[01:44] <ikonia> Artemis3: please don't offer silly help
[01:45] <HURRA2000> Hi there! Since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 i cannot connect to wap-encrypted networks via wlan anymore. Does anybody have tis Problem as well.
[01:45] <ggkjgjhg> ikonia: I have emailed them alreay of course I have the idea their firmware development is in Japan by the way, at least a part of it, maybe that's why it needs some time to trickle through
[01:46] <ikonia> ggkjgjhg: well, we can't help you with Lenovo's response time, just sit tight and wait for a response
[01:48] <ggkjgjhg> ikonia: very true, just hoping for a miracle.... in the meantime: how can I debug ubuntuhibernation for my notebook?
[01:48] <ikonia> ggkjgjhg: checking the syslog is always a good start
[01:49] <ggkjgjhg> ikonia: will do
[01:50] <ggkjgjhg> thanks&goodbye, if I get some sensible info i will be back/file a bug in launchpad
[01:50] <ggkjgjhg> et info from syslog I mean ;)
[01:51] <uddk> so, what's the most secure browser? I always thought that one goes to links*, elinks and the like. Turns out none of them properly supports https. You can't view certificates with them they don't warn you about anything. Is there a browser that runs in a tty and does all that?
[01:51] <HURRA2011> Now i got it. Works in XChat much better then via web-access.
[01:51] <ikonia> uddk: they all support https
[01:52] <ikonia> uddk: if there is a bug - log it
[01:52] <uddk> ikonia,  note the "properly", that behavior is long known and reported already upstream
[01:52] <HURRA2011> Godday everybody. Is this the right place to ask some questions concerning problems with Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:53] <uddk> ikonia, it wouldn't be a bug anyway, just a enhancement and those don't get high priority even if they are security vulns
[01:53] <ikonia> uddk: ok, so we can't help you then
[01:54] <uddk> ikonia, wtf? I was asking if there is maybe one which I haven't tested that does support tsl certs
[01:54] <ikonia> uddk: tone down the language please.
[01:54] <uddk> ikonia, how do you know no one in this channel knows anything???
[01:54] <ikonia> uddk: I was under the impression firefox could deal with tsl certficiates
[01:55] <uddk> ikonia, firefox doesn't run in text mode/tty/ssh shell
[01:55] <ikonia> uddk: sorry, I missed the part that you said a command line browser
[01:56] <jrib> uddk: try w3m
[01:56] <dewcow> i missed some of this, but have you tried lynx?
[01:56] <bekks> or links2
[01:56] <dewcow> i don't know what specifically you are looking for
[01:57] <HURRA2011> So another go: Since upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 i cant connect to Wap-secured networks anymore. with using Linux mint 11 everything was fine. Did anybody simular problems?
[01:58] <dewcow> HURRA2011: one of my networks is a wpa and from my 11.10 I have been able to connect fine
[01:58] <nvz> HURRA2011: verify that wpasupplicant is installed, dpkg -l wpasupplicant
[01:58] <uddk> jrib, bekks w3m and links2 don't warn me when visiting https://alioth.debian.org
[01:59] <dewcow> uddk: try lynx
[01:59] <uddk> dewcow, forgot about that one, testing know
[01:59] <jdtm> Hello, I am having some Wifi stability issues. On Ubuntu 11.10. I am using an HWUG1 wireless Usb adapter, connecting to a TL-WR541G wireless router. I am experiencing a packet loss of about 5%, Which is annoying in some online games. I also dual boot win 7, and it works perfectly fine there. Here is my iwconfig, if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749900/. Any help is appreciated.
[01:59] <dewcow> uddk: also go into the settings, i think its just '?' and change to advanced
[02:00] <dewcow> uddk: i meant 'o' for options, not ?
[02:01] <uddk> dewcow, It's capital O, the site doesn't load at all, so it looks promising, hang on
[02:01] <HURRA2011> nvz: wpasupplicant is installed
[02:02] <HURRA2011> dewcow: Are you also using a Intel wlan card?
[02:02] <nvz> HURRA2011: have you recently failed to connect to a wpa access point? if so you would want to examine and possibly pastebin the tail end of dmesg so we can see whats happening.
[02:04] <nvz> HURRA2011: dmesg will show all the activity of the driver attemting to associate, authenticate..etc
[02:04] <dewcow> uddk: good news, let me know how it turns out.
[02:04] <admon> quien
[02:04] <admon> quien
[02:04] <admon> quien
[02:04] <FloodBot1> admon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <dewcow> HURRA2011: the chipset is a Broadcom.
[02:05] <FerchoLP> talking about htat, since the first update to kernel 3, I have very unstable wifi connections with some specific routers, i.e. wrt54g. I have Intel 4965AGN. Is it a known problem?
[02:05] <nvz> ew broadcom.. heh.. those bc43xx hybrid radios are the worst of em all.. heh.
[02:06] <FerchoLP> It worked perfect with kernel 2.6 and it still works ok with win7
[02:06] <dewcow> nvz: right? thats why i was AMAZED when it worked almost straight out of install
[02:06] <nvz> FerchoLP: check dmesg for more info, could be a calibration issue, happens a lot if there are many devices overlapping range with same channel
[02:07] <dewcow> FerchoLP: i too have sometimes had strange issues connecting to the wrt54g from some cards....erm..broadcom chipsets specifically.
[02:07] <nvz> dewcow: support has improved in the last few months for that.. but they're still aweful. heh glad my dying netbook here has atheros.. heh
[02:08] <dewcow> nvz: mmm atheros.
[02:08] <nvz> dewcow: wireless hackers delight.. heh
[02:10] <dewcow> nvz: i remember going through many 'cheap' cards at the store until i found some with atheros chipsets.
[02:10] <nvz> nobody ever seems to pay any attention to what channel their wifi is on, and around here anyhow the local public school dist is a digital school dist that provides everyone with computers, and wifi is just in general common these days.. most routers all use the same 3 channels.. makes a big difference if you have many routers all overlapping range with the same frequency.. many drivers have piss poor noise floor calibration routines
[02:10] <dewcow> nvz: always wished i could have had an orinoco gold
[02:11] <DrGamut> Anyone experienced this, every time my screen locks and the display is put to sleep, upon returning instead of seeing the lock screen with the password prompt I just see solid blocks of color where there were Windows active and the desktop background isn't present.
[02:12] <nvz> dewcow: I had the HawkingTechnology HWU8110UG I think it was.. 3-4inch satellite dish, usb.. had an Atheros AR5007 if I recall correctly.. it was great.. that company makes some decent cheap stuff, worth checking out their website
[02:12] <FerchoLP> mm, I've checked dmesg but couldn't figure out what was the problem in google. I don't have that router now in range and I'm trying to see the dmesg log from that day
[02:13] <nvz> dewcow: only cost me about $60 and best buy several years ago and worked great on linux.. just required the zydas firmware zd1211 package
[02:14] <dewcow> nvz: thanks for the info. i might just have to look around
[02:14] <nvz> dewcow: the range on that thing was insane.. I could hit all 3 APs at the WVU colleseum from almost 2mi away across the river
[02:14] <FerchoLP> but it's a place where are no more than 2 or 3 networks in range, and as I said, it worked fine before linux kernel update and still works ok booting in Win7
[02:14] <atkrad> d
[02:14] <nvz> dewcow: only downside to those kinda things is that you generally need to be within 30deg or so of right angle and have a clear line of sight for max distance
[02:15] <dewcow> nvz: christ thats impressive for a pre-built card
[02:15] <F2Knight> any one have experience with multiple NIC? Having an issue with routing
[02:15] <nvz> dewcow: had +8dbi gain and was extremely portable and convenient
[02:15] <bekks> !details | F2Knight
[02:16] <dewcow> nvz: a buddy and i used to build cantennas that had suprisingly good results. but also had a very narrow angle of range
[02:16] <F2Knight> I have a problem with multiple nic cards sharing the same default route. Need each card to route to its own gateway.
[02:16] <dewcow> nvz: was that a usb card? or pcmcia?
[02:17] <A|i3N> my audio doesn't seem to be working. It's on; it appears to be working, but I have no sound. i have no idea how to troubleshoot this.
[02:17] <bekks> F2Knight: You cannot have more than one default gateway. Everything else has to be done by setting host/net routes using specific interfaces.
[02:17] <t3gnick> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a laptop, when I load onto my account the desktop does not load, I just get the blank background. But it loads when I change to Ubuntu 2D. What does Ubuntu 2D mean?
[02:18] <nvz> dewcow: it was a USB dish.. was about 3inches diameter and rotated 180deg and tilted up and down about 45deg was really nice for US$60 price range site is hawkingtechnology.com they have newer better ones out now..
[02:18] <F2Knight> bekks, Not looking to have more then one default gateway... looking for eth0 ro use one route, and eth1 to use a different route. eth0 should use the default route but eth1 needs to use a custom gateway
[02:19] <Emiru> whats the terminal command to restart unity dash ?
[02:19] <dewcow> nvz: question is if they support blackfriday right now. wouldn't that be nice.
[02:19] <bekks> F2Knight: You cannot have more than one gateway. You have to define host routes or net routes.
[02:19] <dewcow> nvz: ha, now if only i could call it an early christmas present to the girlfriend i could justify it.
[02:19] <F2Knight> bekks, net route is fine but I can not get the ip route / or route command right.
[02:19] <kurisu> hi my 11.04 does not show that there is a new dist (11.10).... any ideas???
[02:20] <kurisu> (in update-manager -d or in do-release-upgrade)
[02:20] <bekks> F2Knight: So whoch route command exactly did you use, and whoch error message did you get?
[02:20] <ikonia> kurisu: update-manager -d is not a good idea
[02:20] <kurisu> oh
[02:20] <ikonia> kurisu: that is for development versions, not stable
[02:21] <kurisu> oh right... didn't do anything anyway :-P
[02:21] <Emiru> anyone have to command to reset unity ??
[02:21] <kurisu> any ideas why its not showing the option to upgrade
[02:22] <ikonia> kurisu: was 11.04 a clean install ?
[02:22] <kurisu> or is it that 11.10 is still in development
[02:22] <ikonia> kurisu: 11.10 is released and stable
[02:22] <kurisu> oh right... yeah 11.04 was clean install
[02:22] <ikonia> !upgrade | kurisu
[02:22] <ikonia> kurisu: those instructions should work then
[02:22] <kurisu> ... getting fed up of crashes over the last couple of days so want to dist-upgrade
[02:23] <kurisu> ok thanks
[02:24] <F2Knight> bekks,  route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/8 gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth1, no errors., route table updated but can not remove the default one assigned by ubuntu
[02:24] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>      <IP_ADDRESS>       UG    0      0        0 eth1
[02:24] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>       U     0      0        0 eth1
[02:25] <nd456> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card?
[02:25] <bekks> F2Knight: You dont have to remove the default gateway.
[02:25] <dewcow> nvz: you think they still put atheros in them?
[02:26] <F2Knight> bekks, okay but when i ping -I eth1 google.com it times out
[02:26] <FerchoLP> I've found the kernel log. I get a lot of " wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1d:7e:e0:f4:3f (Reason: 15)". THe wifi connection works for about five minutes and then that error occurs. Immediately it connets again and works ok for a few minutes and so on. All this just with wrt45g router and since update to kernel 3
[02:27] <F2Knight> and I can not ping any other hosts on that lan...
[02:27] <dewcow> FerchoLP: do you have neighbors with wireless?
[02:27] <ikonia> F2Knight: sounds like you have 2 default gateways
[02:27] <FerchoLP> for example, the wifi card works perfectly with tp-link routers
[02:28] <F2Knight> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[02:28] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS> UH    0      0        0 eth0
[02:28] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[02:28] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>      <IP_ADDRESS>       UG    0      0        0 eth1
[02:28] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>       U     0      0        0 eth1
[02:28] <FloodBot1> F2Knight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <F2Knight> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[02:28] <ikonia> F2Knight: that routing table will never work
[02:29] <dewcow> FerchoLP: try moveing the AP and the card to a different channel. sounds like you might just be experiencing interference from other networks
[02:29] <FerchoLP> There are only 2 or 3 networks in sight where that wrt45g is. And there are more than 35 where I am now, connected to a TP-LINK router
[02:29] <F2Knight> ikonia, well yea, i notice its not working.. Luckily I can get in over eth0 though
[02:29] <ikonia> F2Knight: you can't have 2 default routes active at the same time
[02:29] <FerchoLP> but could that affect only my card? because if I boot the machine on Win7, the wifi connection with the wrt45g router works well.
[02:29] <ikonia> F2Knight: you already have a route for <IP_ADDRESS> on eth0, so you can't bring one up on eth1 too
[02:29] <kurisu> ikonia: hmmm... followed that and it still does not give me the option
[02:30] <F2Knight> ikonia, there is only one default route there
[02:30] <kurisu> might try to dl and unetboot
[02:30] <FerchoLP> I mean, the router works ok with another SO and even my cell phone can connect to the router
[02:30] <ikonia> F2Knight: sorry, I thought you where trying to add one to eth1 too, I may have miss-read
[02:31] <F2Knight> ikonia, no each should have there own. and it 'look's right.. only I can not ping over eth1
[02:32] <kurisu> 11.04 has given me more problems than all the other dists combined... and I started using ubuntu in 2006 !!!
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[02:32] <ikonia> mikefmail: please don't advertise in this channel
[02:32] <mikefmail> Very sorry - I did not realise
[02:33] <ikonia> not a problem
[02:33] <mikefmail> Thanks
[02:33] <nvz> dewcow: well the one that replaced the HWU8DD I had, is the HWU9DD and it is said to have a RTL8188SU, the do have another model though and you can still find the HWU8DD which is technically a Zydas ZD1211RW chipset, but its essentially just a modified Atheros 5007UG and the firmware is available in the zd1211rw-firmware package for linux
[02:33] <genewitch> When i open my laptop lid and it resumes from suspend i get screen artifacting.  I wasn't going to do that. But i searched and most of the solutions on the bug trackers say fixed with karmic, nvidia patch, intel this, but i have an ati xpress 200m and i only remember the "use some cpu to stop artifacting" solution
[02:36] <genewitch> even if i stop dd right now it goes back to really bad corruption and seizure inducing flashing
[02:36] <nvz> Idk if everyone agrees, but I think saying format c: is acceptable.. rm -rf / however is just so wrong though
[02:37] <ikonia> nvz: stop now
[02:37] <ilyekkakai> how do i remove a gnome panel applet form the list of applets?
[02:38] <genewitch> the downside to using the cpu is it drains my battery. catch-22. Should i open a new bug ticket?
[02:39] <ikonia> genewitch: the ati modules are closed and a known problem with suspend.
[02:39] <ikonia> genewitch: not much can really be done with them unless you talk to ati
[02:39] <genewitch> ikonia: it doesn't say restricted drivers in use though like it used to... should i go get and install the ATI drivers?
[02:39] <ikonia> genewitch: in my view, no
[02:40] <ikonia> genewitch: up to you though
[02:40] <genewitch> i wonder if i could write a perl script that used 2% of my cpu
[02:41] <kurisu> does anyone know if theres a known issue with 11.04 (64) and flash thats began over the last few days??
[02:41] <redline28> how do you watch netflix using ubuntu
[02:41] <yagoo> kurisu, actually i was checking out the latest flash.. there's a new one..
[02:41] <yagoo> (at least from the adobe site)
[02:41] <genewitch> redline28: virtual machine (kvm, virtualbox) with windows. netflix uses silverlight which is closed source and owned by microsoft.
[02:41] <kurisu> oh right
[02:42] <sunfish> Hi
[02:42] <genewitch> redline28: they won't change that because of licensing issues.
[02:42] <redline28> that sucks
[02:42] <nvz> ilyekkakai: you realize this will not result in enhanced security of any kind right? if you humor me on why and which applet I'll humor you on the how
[02:43] <yagoo> kurisu, (bleeding edge Adobe Flash Player <IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:43] <redline28> does anyone know if an would a emulator work?
[02:43] <SudoMan> What kind?
[02:43] <kurisu> yagoo: .... getting really annoyed with mine, crashes my system (with an xorg Fatal server error: ... xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call error)
[02:43] <genewitch> redline28: like dolphin?
[02:44] <yagoo> kurisu, 64-bit ?
[02:44] <kurisu> yeah
[02:44] <kurisu> was fine until a few days ago
[02:44] <yagoo> kurisu, hmm..
[02:44] <redline28> SudoMan: not sure really
[02:44] <genewitch> does ubuntu-server have the pm modules?
[02:45] <jdtm> Hello, I am having some Wifi stability issues. On Ubuntu 11.10. I am using an HWUG1 wireless Usb adapter, connecting to a TL-WR541G wireless router. I am experiencing a packet loss of about 5%, Which is annoying in some online games. I also dual boot win 7, and it works perfectly fine there. Here is my iwconfig, if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749900/. Any help is appreciated.
[02:45] <SudoMan> Because there is several emulators for Linux like snes, DS, ps1, and ect.
[02:46] <yagoo> kurisu, did u try wiping out the flash cache? (you right-click and choose global settings.. try clearing out any stored entries-- btw.. it'll be a macromedia site you can clear your local setting)
[02:46] <nvz> oh well he left.. heh.. I was curious what someone aimed to achieve by disabling a panel applet .. had the answer too..
[02:46] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: even in windows it is suggested to game and stream meadia using a wired connection
[02:46] <yagoo> kurisu, if it says VT_WAITACTIVE.. it sounds more like a video driver issue
[02:47] <genewitch> redline28: literally the way i said is the only way. a wii emulator (the easiest) won't work because it doesn't emulate the wii shop channel which you need to "install" the netflix app.
[02:47] <yagoo> kurisu, if i were you i'd try 64-bit firefox&64bit flash..
[02:47] <redline28> SudoMan: I am new to linux
[02:47] <kurisu> I went into flash settings and cleared all local content... still had the same problem
[02:47] <yagoo> kurisu, , dunno how it is now as the deafult browser on 64bit ubuntu..
[02:47] <jdtm> well, its flawless in windows, so i assume its possible in ubuntu.
[02:47] <SudoMan> Why is there no opera for Ubuntu on there software center?
[02:47] <yagoo> kurisu, is it really 64-bit flash or 32-bit one you're using?
[02:47] <kurisu> hmm
[02:47] <jdtm> my connection i mean.
[02:48] <kurisu> was 32 I think... removed it now so I can actuall go on the net for a bit without my system hanging
[02:48] <kurisu> read that 64 is still beta
[02:48] <Artemis3> kurisu, just in case, i have 11.04 and 64 bit flash from now defunct sevenmachines, no problems
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: did you have to do any specail installation of drivers for your wifi?
[02:49] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: as far as intalling it in ubuntu that is?
[02:49] <kurisu> Artemis3: oh right... hmmm
[02:49] <kurisu> >.<
[02:49] <jdtm> nope, rt73usb picked it right up
[02:49] <jdtm> and as far as i can tell, its the reccommended driver
[02:49] <SudoMan> I there a better browser that is like sea monkey. By this I mean is there one that has a irc chat program built into it.
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: linux and windows use very different drivers... sometimes the drivers in linux are sub-par to the drivers in windows
[02:50] <kurisu> do you guys think it would be better to do a dist upgrade or try to sort out the issue in 11.04 first>?
[02:50] <genewitch> jdtm: what's the issue
[02:50] <yagoo> SudoMan, have you checked the firefox add-ons? firefox has like the most addons of any other browser..
[02:51] <yagoo> kurisu, you can try upgrade..but as i said it looks like a driver issue
[02:51] <pragmaticenigma> kurisu: jdtm is having throughput issues with packet loss
[02:51] <bluebomber> I'm having trouble setting up VNC/remote desktop in 11.10. I enabled it, but it keeps refusing connections from localhost and other hosts on my LAN. I also checked UPnP, but it didn't modify my router's settings at all. Can anyone give me a hand here?
[02:51] <Artemis3> kurisu, can you uninstall all your flash package, locate and remove all libflashplayer.so from your system, then download the 64 bit flash and put the libflashplayer.so inside ~/mozilla/plugins ?
[02:51] <jdtm> one thing ive tried is increasing the retry limit in iwconfig
[02:52] <yagoo> kurisu, what adobe flash are you using?
[02:52] <jdtm> and the packet loss goes down, but theres like times where the ping shoots up
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> bluebomber: it's part of the default that you will not be able to connect to VNC with localhost, it's to avoid a loopback
[02:52] <yagoo> kurisu, what is the version # ?
[02:52] <Artemis3> kurisu, ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: What you might be experiencing is Ubuntu being more sensitive to flucuations in the wireless signal than windows
[02:53] <jdtm> oh, i did not know this.
[02:53] <kurisu> it was the one from the default "click here to install flash" link that came up in ff
[02:53] <kurisu> ... a few weeks ago
[02:54] <yagoo> kurisu, remove that addon-- and try adding flash from your ubuntu package manager
[02:54] <kurisu> ... sorry, didn't notice the version, and it's gone now
[02:54] <yagoo> pff
[02:54] <jdtm> so theres nothing i can do about it then?
[02:54] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: not unless your very skilled at writting your own device drivers
[02:54] <kurisu> ok I'll try
[02:55]  * yagoo saw a 512 packet limit with dbus.. << perhaps look into commenting this out
[02:55] <kurisu> as in adove-flashplugin (11) ??
[02:55] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: As i mentioned earlier... anytime I try to stream video or play an online game i always use a hard connection to avoid problems with signal
[02:55] <yagoo> kurisu, there should be one called *installer
[02:55] <jdtm> if its any credit to the complaint, i also have another wifi card, not sure of the model, but it picks up the rt2800usb driver, and displays similar results.
[02:55] <yagoo> kurisu, apt-cache search flash |grep -i inst
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: someone walking through the room is enough to distrupt your wireless signal
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: I really strongly suggest when gaming to use ethernet, not wireless... nothing sucks more than a roommate (or parent) using the microwave causing you to get fragged in your favorite game
[02:57] <kurisu> ok I'll try... think it will just crash my system again though :-P
[02:57] <machiolate> where is system preferences, windows under ubuntu 11.10? i'm trying to change the mouse over window setting. I'm using the gnome 3 fallback shell
[02:57] <jdtm> but wouldnt the signal show that it goes down?
[02:57] <yagoo> kurisu, uhh.. you do check to see that it's the latest version..
[02:57] <jdtm> cause my signal is constant
[02:57] <yagoo> kurisu, then try to get that latest version if you get the crash..
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: the signal meter is all code based... It's easy enough to fake that
[02:58] <kurisu> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:58] <machiolate> does the gnome 3 fallback shell not have a system preferences GUI?
[02:58] <kurisu> .... apt-get update; apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:58] <yagoo> kurisu, and do look at what the other things i told ya.. see if you're using 32-bit flash on a 64-bit firefox.. I dont have 64bit running on here..
[02:58] <jdtm> alright, fine. well, is there any other troubleshoot commands i could use besides iwconfig?
[02:59] <yagoo> kurisu, (if its a 32bit flash plugin on 64bit firefox.. you may want to try to do 64bit flash on 64bit firefox)
[02:59] <pragmaticenigma> you could try installing inSSIDer and see if that helps isolate where you issues might be
[03:00] <kurisu> ok sure, installed that new flashplugin.. how can I check for 32 / 64 in flash and ff?
[03:00] <yagoo> kurisu, about:plugins (url)
[03:00] <yagoo> kurisu, see if you're using the 32-bit ns support plugin layer..
[03:01] <jdtm> tyvm for the help
[03:02] <chrislabeard> when running $ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 its supposed to do something besides blink with the white box?
[03:02] <chrislabeard> or am I supposed to wait for it to finish
[03:03] <yagoo> kurisu, "file /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so" << this may not be the one you're using.. but can you tell me if this file exists?
[03:03] <yagoo> (file is a command, literally)
[03:03] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: np... sometimes a good ol' fashioned search on google with your wireless driver and ubuntu might turn up some results too
[03:03] <kurisu> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
[03:04] <jdtm> trust me, ive been searching.
[03:04] <kurisu> so I guess not 64
[03:04] <yagoo> kurisu, hang on.
[03:04] <machiolate> how do I activate "mouse over active window" for Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[03:04] <kurisu> ok thanks
[03:05] <yagoo> kurisu, what does about:config say?  and what does ls -la /etc/alternatives/*flash*  say ?
[03:05] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: the keywords your looking for "high latency"
[03:05] <yagoo> kurisu, actually "about:plugins"..
[03:05] <jdtm> trust me, i have been.
[03:05] <yagoo> kurisu, you using iceweasal ?
[03:06] <jdtm> lol
[03:06] <kurisu> Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102
[03:06] <yagoo> kurisu, did you test with glxgears ? < you have acceleration on your graphics?
[03:06] <kurisu> no the default ff that comes with 11.04
[03:06] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: first hit I got was this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1794949.html <= have you seen that and tried any of the suggestions there?
[03:06] <yagoo> kurisu, so um.. is that firefox 64-bit or 32-bit ?
[03:07] <yagoo> kurisu, ps aux|grep -i <appname>  , then do "file <path to appbinary>   , should say if its 32-bit or 64-bit ELF
[03:08] <kurisu> 64-bit
[03:08] <yagoo> kurisu, so what you can do is simply apt remove the flash plugin.. then try the manual latest flash (64bit)..
[03:08] <pragmaticenigma> kurisu: Your trying to use 32bit flash player on 64 bit???
[03:09] <yagoo> kurisu, if firefox(64bit) refuses to load it.. then you should try to disable the 32bit-ns compat plugin..
[03:09] <jdtm> talking about driver conflicts? yes, this was one of the first things i stubled upon.
[03:09] <kurisu> and glxgears is ok btw
[03:09] <yagoo> kurisu, dunno if therte's a filter rule on *flash* plugin names with that 32bit ns compat plugin
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: do you use wireless encryption on your network?
[03:09] <yagoo> kurisu,  that's good..
[03:09] <jdtm> wpa2
[03:09] <kurisu> ok I'll try that now thanks
[03:10] <jdtm> tried unprotected, and same conflicts
[03:10] <kurisu> can I just apt-get remove flashplugin-installer?
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: Hrm... that might be the problem (not that an encrypted network is a bad thing, it's very good!) but I have always had bad luck with wifi, linux and encrypted networks
[03:10] <kurisu> or will that just remove the installer
[03:11] <jdtm> right, thats understandable.
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: If you can... I'd try going a bit with the encryption off (lock down the AP to only allow your MAC address) and see if the problem goes away... something to mind is the encryption is often done on the wireless cards chip and it's not nearly as powerful as your CPU
[03:13] <jdtm> like i said, ive already tried that
[03:15] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: sorry, missed that
[03:15] <yagoo> kurisu, ya.. if not.. then see other packages-> dpkg -l |grep -i flash
[03:15] <vishwas> What is the difference between remastersys backup and dist
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: I'm sure you will find a solution... I'm just out of ideas here... I use broadcom b43legacy... my biggest issue was WPA encryption... so I turned off all encryption and use a local VPN connection from my laptop to one of my desktops and tunnel everything through that
[03:17] <nonouns> #join dallasmakerspace
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: * encrypted VPN *
[03:19] <jdtm> from what i can tell, some of the packets are getting delayed somewhere. because if i increase the retry limit, less packets are dropped, but the max ping is higher.
[03:19] <jdtm> but yea, i appreciate listenin to me :D
[03:21] <vishwas> What is the difference between remastersys backup and dist
[03:22] <pragmaticenigma> vishwas: you will need to be more specific... need a little more information about what you are asking
[03:23] <vishwas> What remastersys  command does?
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: I know the frustration... you have a good chipset with that wifi adapter, broadcom is a lot worse
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> !remastersys
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> guess the bots don't know
[03:24] <bazhang> vishwas, check the remastersys forum home page, thats not a supported package
[03:24] <bluebomber> pragmaticenigma, I still could not connect from any of the other hosts on my LAN either. (re my VNC setup issue)
[03:24]  * yagoo laughs-- he was installing alternatives yesterday with the old thinking that nautilus can't do dual pane
[03:24] <yagoo> goddamit.. what a waste of time hahahaha
[03:24] <yagoo> was there the whole time.. "Extra pane".. more like EXTRA PAIN!! lol
[03:25] <pragmaticenigma> bluebomber: I eventually install x11vnc on my rig to get VNC connections to my machine... it was faster and easier for me to get it up and running... downside is the machine has to be logged in locally to a session for it to work
[03:26] <yagoo>  pragmaticenigma , you use vnc? it's easier to use nomachine's nx..
[03:26] <yagoo> (but i dont think nomachine nx is updated for 11.10 just yet.. i can check)
[03:26] <jdtm> yea, i heard about broadcom being trouble, when i bought my card it has an external antenna, so i bought a beefy one so i was sure i'd have max connection :P
[03:28] <klync> is there a simple way to test whether a given pkg was installed by me or by the base system?
[03:28] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: I had a friend try and set that up for me... I wasn't happy with the results
[03:29] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, did you use nomachine's ? (dont use the distro's repo-- you have to download 3 free .debs from their site)
[03:29] <osmosis> what the heck, how do I access the menus in GIMP ?
[03:29] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: I like to keep one session going whether I'm at the local machine or remotely connected...
[03:29] <klync> osmosis: right click
[03:29] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you can do that with nomachine's nx..
[03:29] <osmosis> klync, where is screen capture?
[03:29] <yagoo> nways..
[03:30] <yagoo> been using it for 3 years.. and i'm hooked.. i can do remote linux from win/mac/linux ..
[03:30] <klync> osmosis: i don't know the app inside out off the top of my head, but idunno ... ctrl-c?
[03:30] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: For me... what I have works and does what I want it to... if it ain't broke, I ain't going to fix it
[03:31] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, vnc is 100 times more difficult to setup nomachine nx.. that's why i mention it to anyone..
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> osmosis: When you ask, are you trying to capture a video, or a single snapshot
[03:32] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: That's why I use x11vnc package... simple execution from bash and it runs on it's own... just a few arguments to match my preferences
[03:33] <newegggg> i disabled root login via ssh, so i log in as a user... but after i 'su root' and become root, i can't run anything
[03:33] <newegggg> iptables returns 'command not found'
[03:33] <newegggg> any ideas?
[03:34] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, well you don't HAVE to try it. But i really think you're not getting the best remote out there.. and nx IS :) just my story :)
[03:34] <yagoo> newegggg, try su -l or su -
[03:35] <newegggg> u mean when i try to become root?
[03:35] <yagoo> newegggg, yah..
[03:35] <yagoo> newegggg, that sets up $PATH correctly for root
[03:35] <newegggg> omg it worked
[03:35] <newegggg> the -l
[03:35] <newegggg> what does the -l mean
[03:35] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: does NX allow me to use a standard VNC client to connect in?
[03:35] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, ya
[03:35] <newegggg> thanks
[03:36] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma,  it supports multi-proc session types (but i said earlier i dont know if 11.10 is supported yet)
[03:36] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, it's pretty much apt-get install ssh, then dpkg -i <those three debs *.deb>
[03:36] <pragmaticenigma> K... I will check into it again... last time experience was less than steller (it's how I found x11vnc) and I was running OpenSUSE at the time
[03:36] <the_3f_rule> Hi guys.  Hopefully my question hasn't been answered 50 times tonight already
[03:37] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you have to look into it's advanced options, and if you want to do concurrent logons, you might have to type 1 command to allow that user to do it
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: right now I'm trying to figure out how to get my OpenVPN to tunnel again... sadly until that's running I'm SOL anyways
[03:37] <yagoo> (the advanced options is available graphically with nxclient)
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> since I only allow remote access to my local network via my VPN connection (especially Remote Desktop)
[03:38] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, nx works as a subsystem under ssh.. that's why it's basically no setup.. but someone told me for a corporate environment.. they don't like it because of something to do with the authentication method it uses..
[03:39] <yagoo> (i mean ssh is ok-- but there's an impersonating user when issuing nx authentication)(for personal use i have no problem.. )
[03:39] <yagoo> kurisu, does flash 64-bit work?
[03:40] <yagoo> oh golly.. dam it.. wish i knew sooner nautilus supported dual pane now hehehe
[03:40] <yagoo> was using these dam alternatives..
[03:40] <pragmaticenigma> Anyone familiar with openvpn setups and getting the connection to bridge to the gateway to tunnel internet access
[03:41] <lynx7os5> hello, anyone know what happened to the karmic repository, or where its located by chance? and is it safe to change from karmics to lucid repos? (sources.list)
[03:41] <the_3f_rule> Hopefully someone can aswer it though.  I am brand new to linux.  Trying to install 11.10 on an 3 or 4 year old acer penguin 2.  I burned an install cd but keep getting an error 5 and the install crashes.  Not much concrete help to be found on the web, at least that I can find.  Anyone know how to get around this?  It runs fine off the install cd.
[03:41] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you should check your gateway (if its  a box-- they sometimes have filters on VPN traffic)
[03:41] <the_3f_rule> That's a pentium not a penguin
[03:42] <pragmaticenigma> I've had it working in the past... I lose the setup with each upgrade to ubuntu (which I'm getting really tired of) because the network configuration files have to be modified manually each time... and each new upgrade has some new twist
[03:42] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, try freedos.. i heard that way back for 1993-1995 computers dos works well.. Pentium I you say? good luck..
[03:42]  * yagoo laughs at the Penguin kid
[03:43] <lynx7os5> i was doing a fresh install on another comp but cant update it for some reason.. (ubuntu server karmic)
[03:43] <klync> the_3f_rule: i don't know what error 5 means, but one thing i might check is the bios' "reconfigure ecsd data" before running the installer
[03:43] <pragmaticenigma> used to be that I could just set a flag to forward all IP traffic... then it had to be explicately set the IPv4 traffic...
[03:43] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, what box router model is it?
[03:44] <the_3f_rule> The error 5 basically is telling me that there is something wrong with the media or the media drive.  Its apparently a fairly common error, but no real fixes.
[03:44] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: All traffic from my 10.8.0.x subnet is setup on the router to route through10.0.2.x
[03:44] <klync> the_3f_rule: oh, did you test the checksum before you burned the image, and got no error during write?
[03:44] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, and that router is running linux with a WAN interface?
[03:44] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: the router is already been configured, I lost the setup when I upgraded Ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10
[03:44] <klync> the_3f_rule: can you boot from a rescue cd, such as knoppix or grml?
[03:45] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you're talking unclearly.. what is the router?
[03:45] <the_3f_rule> Yes, it runs just fine from the boot cd.  No errors during the burn
[03:45] <the_3f_rule> Just get the error when I try to install.
[03:45] <pragmaticenigma> The router has already been configured to work, I know it is setup correctly because everything was working prior to upgrading from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10
[03:45] <klync> the_3f_rule: when you're booted from the live cd, have you looked at dmesg, esp. after trying to read from the hard disk?
[03:46] <docmur> I have a new 42" LCD screen and I'm trying to get my ATI 5830 to output to this new TV, I have the HDMI connection going into a HDMI spitter which I think might be my issues and then going to the TV.  ATI's control panel can see the TV and it tell me it's in use but the TV doesn't read any single, I get the same thing in windows
[03:46] <the_3f_rule> And the computer is only a couple of years old, it has a 160 gig hd.  I misspoke when said pentium
[03:46] <pragmaticenigma> docmur: Remove the splitter
[03:46] <docmur> any idea
[03:46] <docmur> I want to but I don't have a cable long enough
[03:46] <docmur> It's not even close
[03:47] <the_3f_rule> Klync, I have not.  I am kind of an amateur when it comes to bios.  Can you explain?  Sorry
[03:47] <vernonjvs> Hello. It seems that the karmic dist files no longer exist on the ubuntu sever. Does ubuntu archive them someplace else?
[03:47] <docmur> I'm pretty sure thats the issue
[03:47] <pragmaticenigma> docmur: The issue is your signal is degrading through the splitter and the length of the cable
[03:47]  * yagoo thinks the_3f_rule is trolling. Pentium computers are no longer made for over ten years
[03:47] <yagoo> pff
[03:47] <docmur> just checking with everyone
[03:48] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: Pentiums are still produced... in fact I just read an article about a new server line of Pentiums Intel is coming out with next year
[03:48] <the_3f_rule> Like I said, I misspoke.  Sorry.  Im an old guy
[03:48] <klync> the_3f_rule: well, i have never heard of this "error 5", but i don't see any reason you couldn't run the installer, so i'm just going from first principles here. i'd try doing 'reset escd' if you haven't, and also running the command `dmesg` from a shell off whatever linux os i could get to run on it
[03:48] <the_3f_rule> Not trolling though, just bummed I cant get it to work.  It came installed with vista, which I hate
[03:49] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: Do you have Hyper Threading enabled in the BIOS?
[03:49] <the_3f_rule> Ok.  I will try that klync.  Thank you
[03:49] <dfs> 有人吗？可以看到我吗？
[03:49] <klync> the_3f_rule: pragmaticenigma's question is also a good one
[03:49] <the_3f_rule> Prag, im not sure but I will look.  What is it
[03:50] <bazhang> !cn | dfs
[03:50] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: It's a way to allow one CPU act like two, when I upgraded to 11.10 I had to shut it off, otherwise my machine would hang during boot... never saw that error code
[03:50] <the_3f_rule> Ah ok.
[03:50] <dfs> 我怎么又跑这来了。。。。
[03:50] <the_3f_rule> Did you guys install ubuntu by itself or in parallel with windows
[03:50] <the_3f_rule> On a partition
[03:51] <pragmaticenigma> I have dual boot partitions in my setup
[03:51] <bazhang> dfs /join #ubuntu-cn
[03:51] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, parallels ? you sound like you're on a mac
[03:51] <yagoo> lol
[03:51] <pragmaticenigma> bazhang: he may not be Chinese
[03:51] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, be careful.. "Parallels" is a virtual solution for macs..
[03:51] <the_3f_rule> I don't speak computer very well sorry
[03:51] <dfs> pragmaticenigma: 你在说我吗？
[03:51] <yagoo> lol
[03:51] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, sure, that's Mandarin
[03:51] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: he didn't say parallels, he said the singular form
[03:52] <klync> the_3f_rule: i don't like dual-booting; i'm playing civ4 right now on xp inside a vmware session
[03:52] <bazhang> dfs english here, Chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[03:52] <pragmaticenigma> but the term, the_3f_rule, is called dual booting since you can't run two OS's at the same time
[03:53] <dfs> bazhang: OK
[03:53] <the_3f_rule> If im installing It by itself, I still need to have hyper threading off?
[03:53] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[03:53] <vernonjvs> does anyone know why the karmic distribution file are no longer on the ubuntu servers.? Thanks
[03:53] <pragmaticenigma> karmic is no longer supported
[03:53]  * yagoo is happy he got his new nfs share mountpoint working under 2 minutes :)
[03:53] <bazhang> !eol | vernonjvs
[03:54] <yagoo> yeah !!! nfs baby!
[03:54] <jerenept> ?
[03:54] <bazhang> vernonjvs, check the eolupgrades link
[03:54] <the_3f_rule> Thanks guys.  I appreciate it.  Sorry for the kindergarten level terminology
[03:55] <dfs> help
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: we all have to start somewhere... no harm no foul
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> dfs: !ask
[03:55] <bazhang> dfs with what
[03:55] <dfs> \help
[03:55] <yagoo> ok
[03:55] <the_3f_rule> I will try it and report back
[03:55] <newegggg> is it ok to delete the contents of secure in /var
[03:55] <dfs> !aks
[03:55] <the_3f_rule> One more question
[03:55] <yagoo> this thing called bashee is hiding in the background...
[03:55] <yagoo> nothing in systray and plays music..
[03:55] <newegggg> its auto made like secure1 secure2
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> newegggg: what are you trying to delete specifically
[03:55] <newegggg> just the entire contents, select all, delete
[03:56] <newegggg> too many break in attempts over ssh to see anything useful
[03:56] <pragmaticenigma> not a good idea...
[03:56] <dfs> join #ubuntu-cn
[03:56] <yagoo> "bash /usr/bin/banshee"  << this is in my process list-- I opened a file to play from nautilus.. weird it says "bash"..
[03:56]  * yagoo thinks dfs is trolling.
[03:56] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: prolly a forked process launched from bash
[03:56] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, i opened it from nautilus (opened a file from a read-only nfs share)
[03:57] <yagoo> (opened a music file)
[03:57] <pragmaticenigma> I understand that... what I'm saying is the media player setup might require a bash script play the file in the background... and it's setup to use a bash script to do so
[03:58] <newegggg> whats a good alternative port for ssh?
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> what does ubuntu rename the httpd binary to?
[03:58] <newegggg> i guess that'll cut down on the spam
[03:58] <dfs> yagoo: what does trolling mean ?
[03:58] <pragmaticenigma> arooni-mobile: to differeniate it from the old apache 1.x
[03:58] <vernonjvs> I understand that I won't get any updates for karmic. But I am surprised that the karrnic files from the repositories. Plus this appeared to just happened today. Whats the point of removing the distribution files?
[03:58] <ResQue> could some please help break this down for me printf "%020x"
[03:58] <pragmaticenigma> dfs... trolling is when a person isn't contributing anything useful to the chat room
[03:58] <the_3f_rule> After the install failed I tried to build a bootable USB but now that I've removed the windows OS not sure how to make one since the install files are .exe
[03:59] <ResQue> what does the % and the 0 mean, why the x
[03:59] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: they need the space for other things
[04:00] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: if you haven't modified the USB key since your last attempt it should still be able to install from
[04:00] <yagoo> ResQue, %20 is the space character (i believe it's the hex value) .. see asciitable.com
[04:01] <dfs> pragmaticenigma: but i cannot find it from my dictionary...
[04:01] <pragmaticenigma> ResQue: it's a code to allow a space to be used in the address bar of your web browser
[04:01] <ResQue> yagoo: hello again, i thought it might be hex, but the command prints 20 '0' and the man page for printf is no help at all
[04:01] <pragmaticenigma> dfs, it's a slang term, it will not be in your dictionary
[04:01] <yagoo> ResQue, it's the hex value for space
[04:01] <the_3f_rule> I screwed up and didn't try to make the USB until after the install failed.  The only other computer I have is a mac.  Easiest just to go find a pc somewhere and make the USB?
[04:01] <ResQue> yagoo: thanks, any idea why it prints 0s if i run it on the command line?
[04:01] <yagoo> Resistance, you're probably using it wrong. maybe it's %0x20 .. or something like that..
[04:02] <yagoo> ResQue, i meant
[04:02] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: easier to burn the install image to a CD and use that
[04:02] <yagoo> ResQue, that's a programming question.. you have to use the right "type" when associating the reference variable..
[04:02] <the_3f_rule> Right-but that's not working, error 5
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: it might once you have diable the hyperthreading
[04:03] <the_3f_rule> I figured the USB might work better.  Waste of time?
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> USB and CD use the exact same installation image and programs to install
[04:03] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, you don't know what computer you have.. how do you even know you downloaded the RIGHT iso?
[04:03] <yagoo> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?
[04:03] <the_3f_rule> Trying to get all he dumb questions out of the way at once
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: be nice
[04:03] <ResQue> yagoo: your right, i think its best to ask in c or c++ room for syntax related questions
[04:04] <pragmaticenigma> ResQue: good idea
[04:04] <the_3f_rule> Good point.  Runs off the bootable cd though yagoo.  So ?
[04:05] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: I would try the CD again, once you have made the changes in BIOS... best to take things one small step at a time... so you can retrace your steps later and determine what might have gone wrong
[04:05] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, how do i know you downloaded the 64-bit iso.. grub would be able to boot on 32-bit architecture.. and then choke after
[04:06] <the_3f_rule> I downloaded the 32.
[04:06] <the_3f_rule> Google told me to
[04:07] <geoffmcc> the_3f_rule: im sure if usb install was an option for you probably would have tried it, but have you considered the minimal install cd to install over network
[04:08] <the_3f_rule> Nope! But I will write that down in case the other stuff fails
[04:08] <pragmaticenigma> whoa, everyone... the_3f_rule really needs to start with what he has... Yes he may have the wrong install image... but he needs to make some bios changes before we really can help further
[04:08] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, talk to the penguin.. after all you said you use a "Penguin" computer. You're not serious about anything. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
[04:08] <the_3f_rule> Should I have downloaded the 64 bit?
[04:08] <dfs> ok ,, I think I am trolling ,too...
[04:08] <pragmaticenigma> No, the_3f_rule you should not have
[04:09] <the_3f_rule> Thanks for the help yahoo.  For me it's a tool not a hobby
[04:09] <the_3f_rule> Ok prag.  Thanks
[04:09] <monstaRtruck> anyone have issues installing nvidia gtx cards
[04:09] <monstaRtruck> it says driver is activated but not in use
[04:09] <RossDoughty> Hey all.
[04:09] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: i386 images are what you need to stick to
[04:10] <RossDoughty> ?
[04:10] <almoxarife> monstaRtruck: I see the same, but mine is in use
[04:10] <pragmaticenigma> monstaRtruck: do you have a machine that allows you to switch between two different graphics card?
[04:10] <monstaRtruck> wat u mean?
[04:11] <pragmaticenigma> monstaRtruck: Please use plain english
[04:11] <monstaRtruck> shut up man
[04:12] <monstaRtruck> thx for u help ahole
[04:12] <pangolin> !guidelines > monstaRtruck
[04:12] <RossDoughty> monstaRtruck - Don't be rude man.
[04:12] <monstaRtruck> here let me help u bastard
[04:12] <pragmaticenigma> monstaRtruck: If you wish to get help, you need to use words that other people will understand... not everyone here speaks english as their primary language
[04:12] <pragmaticenigma> a little late pangolin
[04:13] <vernonjvs> I would think that disk space is cheap enough. I guess I will have to upgrade when I need a package I don't have on my system. Looks like Slackware keeps their distribution files around for 9 years an least. Looks like Fedora keeps their packages around for three years or more. Something to think about when I need to upgrade.
[04:14] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: Why keeps something around if your not going to support it? To the unknowning, they might install it, wonder why it doesn't work and then keep asking about it... safer to remove it and encourage usage of versions that are supported
[04:15] <_Neytiri_> is there a way to upgrade a running system from 10.4 to 10.10?
[04:16] <the_3f_rule> Ah ha.  I meant celeron
[04:16] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: No, I wouldn't recommend using 10.10
[04:16] <_Neytiri_> why
[04:16] <_Neytiri_> and 10.4 doesent have support for waht i need it to have support for
[04:16] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: It's soon to be unsupported
[04:17] <_Neytiri_> figures
[04:17] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: The latest version is 11.10 which was released in October
[04:17] <dewcow> but i liked the name of 10.10  better X(
[04:17] <_Neytiri_> 11.10 is unstable on my system tried it a few weeks ago
[04:17] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | dewcow
[04:18] <vernonjvs> The point is for users that already have karmic installed, why force them to upgrade when they just need a package from the old archive. For example, I just recently installed Sunbird for the first time. Glad I did it before they removed all the karmic files today. Otherwise I would have been forced to upgrade.
[04:18] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: perhaps we can help with that?
[04:18] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: because security patches will no longer be applied... it's half the reason viruses get the foot hold they do on computers... people hanging on to old, insecure software for fear of what is new, updated and secured better
[04:19] <binni> I have a fat32 image file (image.img) and I need to resize it, or more specifically enlarge it by 40mb, is there any simple way to do that? is it possible to open it in gparted?
[04:19] <dewcow> it seemed like 11.10 didn't run as well on my system after the update
[04:19] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: There are several sever kernal vulnerabilities with 9.10, I wouldn't keep running it personally
[04:20] <pragmaticenigma> dewcow: 11.10 didn't run at all for me on my system until I disabled hyperthreading on my CPU... all my other machines haven't had any issues
[04:21]  * pragmaticenigma I must confess I run Xubuntu, which I find to be a little more stable
[04:21] <the_3f_rule> Prag, hate to do this to you.  I assumed hyper threading was in the setup menu.  Any way to turn it off not using windows?
[04:22] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: far as I know, there is no hyperthreading with a Celeron processor... so you will not find a setting anywhere
[04:22] <_Neytiri_> the_3f_rule,  bios
[04:23] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: scratch that... celerons may have hyperthreading... the only way to turn it off is through the bios
[04:23] <vernonjvs> The bottom line is that Linux is about freedom. Upgrading should be my choice and not forced. My setup works and has no viruses. Can you assure me that upgrading will not cause me problems?
[04:23] <mmv> vernonjvs: no one can assure you that
[04:23] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: while the computer is booting you will have to hit something like the "del", "f2", or other key combo to get in the BIOS... you may need to check the manual
[04:23] <mmv> vernonjvs: if you need that kind of assurance, you have a QA environment
[04:24] <the_3f_rule> Yep, im there.  Dont see hyper threading though
[04:24] <mmv> vernonjvs: i can assure you that by never upgrading, you will be riddled with security holes ;)
[04:24] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: Your right it is about choice... however, spend anytime doing tech support for a college campus and you will soon learn the reasons upgrading is a good idea... despite some risks
[04:24] <the_3f_rule> I imagine it would be under Main
[04:25] <gurlyy> hi
[04:25] <gurlyy> hey
[04:25] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: there are very few viruses out there at all... most attacks are to compromise the system and allow the attacker control to anything they want with your computer
[04:26] <gurlyy> hey
[04:26] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: you really need to consult the manual when making changes to your Buis
[04:26] <bazhang> gurlyy, ubuntu support question?
[04:26] <the_3f_rule> Looking now
[04:27] <gurlyy> hey pm me bazhang
[04:27] <pragmaticenigma> !pm | gurlyy
[04:27] <bazhang> gurlyy, no ask your ubuntu question here
[04:27] <gurlyy> what is anal??
[04:27] <pragmaticenigma> TROLL!
[04:27] <Chascon> does ubuntu come with basic tiling via Gnome? My number pad is inadvertently positioning my windows, and the grid plugin is off.
[04:28] <vernonjvs> Well, then why force an upgrade by deleting repositories? BTW, all systems have security holes. I have Linus systems running since 1995 without any viruses (Slackware 2.0 on a 486).
[04:28] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: I just got done saying... it's not viruses you have to worry about... it's someone else taking control of your system
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: I think if you want to continue the conversation... it's best to take it to the offtopic room
[04:29] <vernonjvs> ok thanks bye.
[04:31] <dotblank> hmm, I can't tell if I have gotten better at using linux or I have just gotten used to compiling everything
[04:34] <roasted> hi
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> hello roasted
[04:37] <alexanderliu> how could i type my language in Ubuntu?????
[04:37] <alexanderliu> anybody helps?
[04:38] <r|ck> hi, i just performed a dist upgrade of my ubuntu
[04:38] <yagoo> alexanderliu, show a bit of um consideration here.. you asking a programming question or a human speaking tongue quetsion?
[04:38] <r|ck> and once it completed and attempted to boot up, its stalls at the bootup
[04:38] <lefty_> umm.. I need some help
[04:38] <r|ck> "Starting configure network device security"
[04:38] <r|ck> thats where it is at now
[04:39] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | lefty_
[04:39] <r|ck> i have gone to the diff rc levels and event /etc/default and already disabled at least 20 different stuff
[04:39] <r|ck> kinda tired of doing that
[04:39] <r|ck> wondering if is there a way of fixing it and perhaps why im getting that
[04:40] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: does your system hang if you boot from a live cd of the same version?
[04:41] <the_3f_rule> Ok.  No hyperthreading
[04:41] <r|ck> i have not downloaded a live cd of that same version
[04:41] <lefty_> Well there is this weird issue that happens. I download and install Ubuntu straight onto my computer it seems to install just fine.. on the 1st boot it's fine.. but then when I turn off and try booting back into Ubuntu I get stuck on a Purple Screen and I see the Caps Lock blinking
[04:41] <lefty_> does anyone know what the issue could be?
[04:41] <r|ck> i can try to download it
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: I would try the Liive CD to see if it also hangs at the same point... How did you install your system if not from a Live CD?
[04:42] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, i had a previous version installed and it prompted to do a distribution upgrade
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: That's an indication of a kernel panic... after you install are you installing a bunch of software?
[04:43] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: no just android sdk and chromium browser
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: I see... it's possible that your previous installation had some custom configuration that the upgrade didn't carry over?
[04:44] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, yeah, that could be a possibility
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: Try installing just the OS, and not everything else... and then one by one install new software programs until the issue happens again
[04:44] <cicero_> boa noite
[04:44] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: but the weird thing is this happened 3 times
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: I usually download the Live CD before doing the upgrade just to make sure it will run
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: It's possible something with the Android SDK might be the culprit
[04:45] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: once without installing anything just a simple reboot 2nd time after chromium and sdk and 3rd chromium and sdk
[04:45] <alexanderliu> install my input method??????anybodyhelp?ăîăîăîăî
[04:45] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, ouhh.. ic. i guess next time i shall do that
[04:46] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, downloading the iso now and will take another 30 mins to download
[04:46] <pragmaticenigma> alexanderliu: We are having a difficult time understanding your question... if english is not your primary language there may be a chat room better suited to help you
[04:46] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: okay, I have to head off shortly... but I'm sure others here can continue to help you
[04:47] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, orite. sure
[04:47] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, thanks for ur help. :)
[04:47] <the_3f_rule> Prag thanks again.  Since no hyper thread option, what the next thing to check
[04:47] <K`zan> Silly question, the proprietary nvidia drivers got installed when I built this system but I haven't seen any updates for it?!?  Does one need to uninstall the current and add it again to get updated drivers?  TMIA!
[04:48] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: I'm really not sure... you might need to find a friend to invite over and help you out...  You might a have a local linux user group in your town that could also possibly help you out
[04:49] <the_3f_rule> That's a thought.  Thanks again, I will keep plugging away at it and report back
[04:50] <pragmaticenigma> K`zan: if you installed the propretary drivers from the Ubuntu repos, it isn't always going to be the latest version, but as long as your displays are working, I wouldn't worry about having the latest edition
[04:50] <evanescent> After upgrading to 11.10 my windows keep losing their borders. unity --replace fixes it temporarily until it happens again, but this is very frustrating. does anyone have any ideas?
[04:50] <pragmaticenigma> K`zan: most of the time the newest versions are just updates for the newest cards released on the market, rarely is there anything new for exisiting cards
[04:51] <K`zan> pragmaticenigma: Thanks, new release of X-Plane out and it is a bit slow, thought I'd check.   If it were me, I wouldn't install the android SDK... if you really need it... might considering installing a virtual machine to run it
[04:53] <K`zan> almoxarife: 260.19.06
[04:53] <yagoo> i have a little pathetic irritance.. i'm new to using gnome3's "restrictions" -- there any helper application tools/packages so i can rt-click the systemtray-- I'd like to change spacing between icon elements
[04:53] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: but i said it happened once without me installing anything at all.
[04:53] <almoxarife> K`zan: you are not using nvidia-current?
[04:53] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: have you run the memory tester? how old is the machine your installing to?
[04:54] <isbacon> anyone else having ubuntu freeze on startup?
[04:54] <K`zan> almoxarife: Not as far as I know.
[04:54] <almoxarife> K`zan: I believe current is at 290.xxx
[04:54] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: this computer is about 6 months old and nope no memory tester
[04:55] <K`zan> almoxarife: :-), I said it had been a while.  Just install the "nvidia-current"?
[04:55] <Untitled_only> sup room
[04:55] <yagoo> brb
[04:55] <pragmaticenigma> memory tester is available on the live disks (hit space bar to see options when you see the little keyboard icon at startup)
[04:55] <almoxarife> K`zan: I don't want to be the one tell you that, I don't know what will change on your machine
[04:55] <K`zan> almoxarife: I do have it already installed, but it shows 260...
[04:55] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: is your system a custom build or prefab?
[04:56] <almoxarife> K`zan: let things be, better running than broke
[04:56] <K`zan> almoxarife: There is indeed that :).
[04:56] <K`zan> almoxarife: Thanks!
[04:56] <pragmaticenigma> always good advice almoxarife
[04:57] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: I need some more details by what you mean.. I am 14 after all..
[04:57] <K`zan> pragmaticenigma: almoxarife:  Leaving well enough alone now :-)!!
[04:57] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: custom build means you bought all the parts and built the computer yourself... prefab means you went to a store and bought an already built computer (like Dell, HP, Compaq)
[04:58] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: then prefab lol
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> it's funny they call it build when really it's assembly that's done
[04:59] <hintss> anyone else having ubuntu freeze all the time?
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> well prefab homes are also built assembly style but they still call it a build
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: Can you tell us the model of your computer?
[04:59] <almoxarife> hintss: freezes sound like ram issues
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> hintss: no that's not normal
[05:01] <almoxarife> hintss: I would verify the ram is ok first, no sense in wasting your time on trouble shooting
[05:02] <jeff2365> I am running 10.04 and it completely freezes occasionally
[05:02] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: Satellite L745
[05:03] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what is occassionally?  Like I'm trying to watch a video and it freezes... or I run the machine and I come back a few hours later and it's always locked up
[05:04] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: you installed Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:04] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: yes.
[05:04] <jeff2365> maybe once or twice a day, and I don't think it has frozen when I've been away from it
[05:04] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: when you shut down, are you using the shutdown command or Hibernate/Stand-By?
[05:05] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what are you usually doing when the machine locks up?
[05:05] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: shut down command
[05:06] <jeff2365> sometimes programming, sometimes browsing the web, last time it was when I tried to open a link from XChat
[05:06] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: how old is your machine?
[05:06] <evanescent> check the system logs and look around the time the system crashed
[05:07] <evanescent> see if you see a consistent error message
[05:07] <jeff2365> the motherboard, ram, and cpu are a couple months old, hard drives are 4 years, power supply and graphics card somewhere in the middle
[05:07] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what type of drives do you have?
[05:08] <jeff2365> 2 320GB drives, which information specifically?
[05:08] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: This might be worth a shot... but you might want to try install 11.04 or 10.04... see if the same issue happens with those
[05:09] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: are they SATA or PATA, solid state versus magnetic
[05:09] <jeff2365> PATA
[05:09] <jeff2365> er
[05:10] <jeff2365> Model ATA ST3320820AS, im thinking PATA magnetic
[05:10] <evanescent> note the next time your computer crashes and check /var/log/syslog for any conspicuous error messages. do this a couple times and see if you note the same or similar errors each time
[05:10] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: i was actually on 11.4 before i updated and it didn't happen
[05:11] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: When your finished installing have you installed all the available updates?
[05:11] <jeff2365> I had taken a look at the logs but was unable to find anything before the messages logged when turning it on, I'll take another look when it freezes again
[05:11] <evanescent> the xorg log is worth checking too, which is in /var/log also
[05:11] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: it said none the 1st 3 times
[05:11] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: it's going to be to be at the end of the previous session when you look in the logs... right before what gets added from your recent boot
[05:12] <evanescent> jeff2365, syslog has logs that precede the most recent boot. perhaps you were looking in dmesg or something
[05:12] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: There are several updates out there that you should be seeing when you first install, specifically a kernel update
[05:12] <the_3f_rule> Checking dmesg.  Anything in particular to look for
[05:12] <jeff2365> ah, I did not know that, thank you
[05:12] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: well that's weird
[05:12] <evanescent> your best bet is to find something in the logs because otherwise you are groping in the dark
[05:13] <evanescent> you can try things like memtest but its hard to diagnose random instability
[05:13] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: If you do an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 it's possible it downloaded the most up-to-date and installed them
[05:13] <evanescent> the other pertinent question would be what initiated the instability
[05:13] <evanescent> did you upgrade, etc.
[05:14] <jeff2365> this is a recent install, so it's always been happening
[05:15] <RokiqX> Learning to program in linux?
[05:15] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: the biggest difference between 11.04 and 11.10 is 11.10 uses the new 3.x kernal... which may still have some bugs to workout... you might be better suited sticking to 11.04 until 12.04 comes out
[05:15] <RokiqX> Where to start?
[05:15] <evanescent> jeff2365, do you dual boot another os on the box
[05:15] <pragmaticenigma> RokiqX: This chat is not setup for programming questions
[05:16] <jeff2365> yes, Windows 7, and then 10.04 was installed through WUBI
[05:16] <evanescent> do those work fine
[05:16] <jeff2365> no issues on Windows 7, except occasional BSODs on shutdown
[05:17] <evanescent> if you presume that is unrelated, then that suggests that this is not happening because of outright defective hardware
[05:17] <jeff2365> some Driver Power State Failure
[05:17] <evanescent> i woudl check the logs more carefully, especially syslog and the xorg logs
[05:18] <jeff2365> alright, I'll do that, thanks
[05:18] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what other components do you have in your machine? such as expansion cards like graphics, network, usb, etc...?
[05:18] <jeff2365> wireless network adapter and a 9800 gtx+
[05:19] <kadetvv> hi all
[05:19] <evanescent> you can try removing everything but the essential components and see if it happens
[05:19] <evanescent> but check the logs first
[05:19] <kadetvv> Who can help me?
[05:20] <jeff2365> alright
[05:20] <nikx> ask your question kadetvv ... someone will
[05:21] <jeff2365> now I just need to get it to freeze again...
[05:21] <kadetvv> I do not know how to delete adobe flash player plagin
[05:21] <yagoo> any use a tool like beagle or gnome-do ? I'm looking also at launchy.. I want one so I can graphically configure it.. I ran gnome-do once (comes with no documentation)... it works.. but now poof.. nowhere to be seen..
[05:21] <yagoo> lol
[05:21] <d34d1y> Anyone know why my window titles disappear randomly?
[05:21] <evanescent> ubuntu comes with dash now which is a similar idea
[05:21] <nikx> delete as in uninstall ? remove it from your computer ?
[05:21] <yagoo> (there a default shortkey for it?)
[05:22] <evanescent> i don't remember what it is for gnome-do yagoo but logical choices are things like the windows key
[05:22] <yagoo> evanescent, thought dash was a shell..
[05:22] <evanescent> it is a launcher similar to gnome do
[05:22] <evanescent> i think gnome-do may have used a key combination like super-space or alt-space or something
[05:23] <yagoo> evanescent, you should check out gnome-do-extensions.. there's more than just "launching" applications.. don't need to tell me to use the windows key
[05:23] <nikx> delete as in uninstall ? remove it from your computer ? kadetvv
[05:23] <evanescent> i've used gnome do
[05:24] <pragmaticenigma> Most launcher apps I've used, use the Alt + Space to bring up the program
[05:24] <pragmaticenigma> I prefer trusty ALT + F2 though
[05:24] <yagoo> evanescent, apt-cache search dash shows nothing like gnome-do..
[05:24] <kadetvv> I removed the player itself, but what that was adobe flash player plugin downloader
[05:25] <evanescent> are you using unity yagoo
[05:25] <jeff2365> whoops, drives are SATA, not PATA, though it probably doesn't matter
[05:25] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365:  I don't think it's your drives.. I was looking for age of them which you said was around 4 years... if they were solid state was more what I was seeking
[05:25] <yagoo> evanescent, are you an idiot? why would i be asking this if I WAS using unity?
[05:25] <yagoo> pff
[05:26] <jeff2365> kk
[05:26] <evanescent> nice
[05:26] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: I suspect that your wireless card might be the issue... those are nortious for power management issues causing the system to hang
[05:27] <jeff2365> i'll try removing it after I can get a good look at the logs
[05:28] <jeff2365> is that thought at all based on the driver power state failure BSOD that windows was having? because that seems to be a more recent problem, while the card is 4 years old
[05:28] <pangolin> yagoo: please don't insult people.
[05:28] <lotus> hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？
[05:29] <yagoo> pangolin, he was telling to use the windows key.. I'm not listening to him telling me these things. Thanks.
[05:29] <lotus> hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？
 Did you not read the guidelines?
[05:30] <pangolin> if not tell me now
[05:30] <yagoo> pangolin, maybe you can sed all the help i did today..  I do help on here.
[05:31] <pangolin> The amount of help one gives in this channel, no matter how helpful it is, does not change the rules and that they apply to everyone equally.
[05:32] <roasted> Is there any reason why the title bars of a theme would look different in Gnome Shell than they do in Unity?
[05:32] <lotus>  hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？
[05:33] <lotus>  hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？木有人知道吗？
[05:34] <st_prg> Hi guys, basically what I want to do is put a timeout on the GRUB menu to boot into the first option after 3 seconds :)
[05:36] <shanet> Sorry my computer froze. Again, I just want to put a 3 second timeout on the GRUB menu
[05:38] <nikx> shanet: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-change-grub-2-default-timeout.html
[05:38] <shanet> Thanks heaps nikx
[05:39] <lotus> hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？木有人知道吗？
[05:40] <geoffmcc> !cn |lotus
[05:42] <sherefe> dr_willis good morning
[05:44] <sherefe> guys tell me please when i install new packages from repositories like apt-get install , where packages stores in my local computer , which folder in ?
[05:48] <ilyekkakai> Where are panel applets stored? I need to remove an applet which is causing problems.
[05:48] <Arcademan> sherefe, I belive in the /etc/apt/ :)
[05:49] <machiolate> is there a way to tell if i have OpenCL enabled?
[05:50] <Arcademan> machiolate, you mean openGL?
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> sherefe: Many, many folders.  Packages install files all over the filesystem, per the filesystem hierarchy standard.
[05:51] <machiolate> nah, I just installed openCL, it's newer
[05:51] <lotus> is there anybody know whether I can install lotus notes client on ubuntu ?
[05:51] <machiolate> it's about optimizing across GPU/CPU and heterogenious stuff
[05:52] <ilyekkakai> how do I remove a gnome panel applet from the panel applet list?
[05:52] <shanet> lotus: Did you try googling? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222492
[05:52] <shanet> ilyekkakai: Right click -> Remove from panel
[05:53] <ilyekkakai> shanet, no no no! I don't want to remove an aplet from the panel.. I want to remove it from the list of applets
[05:54] <shanet> Oh I see
[05:54] <lotus> shanet:  yeah ,but I cannot do it successfully
[05:54] <lunitik> lotus, I'm 95% sure you can, but shouldn't you be asking IBM?
[05:55] <ilyekkakai> where are panel applets stored. I need to remove an old version of an applet which is causing problems with the installation of a new version....
[05:55] <lotus> lunitik: IBM ,myebe i should google more about it .
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: How did you install it?
[05:56] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, dpkg -L lists contents of a package... I forget the package the gnome-panel applets are stored in though (it is prolly dpkg -L gnome-panel-applets I just don't remember)
[05:56] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, from terminal.. it was a python applet downloaded from internet.
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: What what commands?
[05:57] <sherefe> Arcademan tonyyarusso thanks guys. I just supposed that there is folders like in freebsd /usr/ports/distfiles where all sources stores after downloading
[05:57] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, i don't remember now... that was about a year ago. and the website I got the installer no longer exists.
[05:57] <lunitik> sherefe, standard is /usr/src
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: Was it a proper .deb package, with dpkg or apt-get, or was it some sort of manual silliness?
[05:58] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, some kind of manual python install batch thing
[05:59] <ilyekkakai> hold on I think the old installer is in my trash
[05:59] <lunitik> sherefe, the extra files of a package are in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: Okay, in that case try using 'locate nameofapplet' to find files related to it, and pastebin when you get results.
[06:00] <lunitik> sherefe, to see full contents of a package... as I said to someone else, it is dpkg -L ... and to see where something came from dpkg -S ... there is also apt-src is you prefer source like FreeBSD but as you know default here is binary
[06:00] <inashdeen> hi, is there an option to toggle the shutdown box option on ubuntu 11.10 using cli?
[06:00]  * sherefe hug lunitik
[06:00] <shanet> sorry ilyekkakai, I can not find any answers for you .
[06:01] <lunitik> sherefe, apt-file also searches contents of packages still in the archive...
[06:01] <lunitik> sherefe, sort of like apt-cache but for contents not descriptions
[06:01] <almoxarife> ilyekkakai: you want to uninstall something, but you don't know what and where it came from or went?
[06:02] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, the applet is internode-applet.py and it was installed using "python setup.py install"... do you want me to pastebin the contents of setup.py?
[06:02] <sherefe> thank you so much lunitik
[06:02] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, locate internode-applet
[06:02] <ilyekkakai> ok
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: what he said.  If you have the setup.py file you *might* be able to do 'python setup.py uninstall'.
[06:03] <ilyekkakai> ok
[06:04] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, in the future, you should really be more careful about installing things randomly from the net...
[06:05] <ilyekkakai> it's hardly randomly. It is the download usage meter recommended by my ISP for linux.
[06:05] <ilyekkakai> just it was an old version which was discontinued and it was preventing me from installing a new version for some reason.
[06:05] <shane91c> Hello, is anybody here who knows anything about using LIRC on a HP Compaq nc6400?
[06:07] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, I just searched 'internode-applet PPA' and came across this: https://launchpad.net/~dwg/+archive/ppa - it would have resulted in a much cleaner process
[06:14] <ilyekkakai> lunitik, thanks...
[06:15] <almoxarife> shane91c: lirc?
[06:16] <shane91c> Yes, I want to use a remote control with the IR port on my laptop. But it's not working.
[06:17] <shane91c> I've tried manually modprobe-ing the smsc-ircc2 driver with the correct I/O ports which appears to work, although I have no other IR device to test it.
[06:17] <shane91c> But I believe LIRC uses it's own SIR port driver
[06:18] <RamtinA> hello there o can't connect to VPN from last night cause i removed one package of another App . what should i do?
[06:18] <inashdeen> hi what is pyhton-gnomeapplet and why it is different from app-indicator
[06:18] <qqwe1345> REGISTER<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:20] <RamtinA> :(
[06:21] <nimbiotics> I'm trying to install handbrake. I already added the PPA using the add-apt-repository & apt-get update commands, but wgen I try to apt-get install handbrake I'm told that this package is not available (http://paste.ubuntu.com/750023/). Can some1 plz tell me what am I doing wrong and how to fix it. TIA!!!
[06:22] <RamtinA> Which packages should be installed for connect to VPN?
[06:25] <nikx> RamtinA,  i dont think u need to install any extra packages to use VPN, just go to network menu and do configure vpn
[06:25] <almoxarife> nimbiotics: either the ppa did not get added or the ppa is not for your version
[06:26] <RamtinA> nikx: i did. and until last night that works but i removed a pakcage
[06:26] <nikx> RamtinA, which package did you remove?
[06:27] <RamtinA> nikx:  i think that was ...vpnl2tp
[06:27] <RamtinA> that was another Vpn manager
[06:27] <nimbiotics> almoxarife: huess u r rite as I'm trrying the 11.04 ppa
[06:28] <nikx> give me a moment RamtinA
[06:28] <inashdeen> hi is there a way to install lancelot on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:28] <RamtinA> nikx:  ok
[06:29] <Aengus> inashdeen: what is lancelot?
[06:29] <inashdeen> Aengus : KDE menu
[06:30] <dr_willis> trying to run the kde panel under unity?
[06:30] <nikx> RamtinA, try removing and installing network-manager-openvpn
[06:30] <inashdeen> dr_willis : not quite, just the lancelot
[06:30] <dr_willis> there are classic gnome like menu things you can use in Unity
[06:30] <Aengus> inashdeen: should be pretty straight forward what is the issue
[06:31] <inashdeen> Aengus : i dont understand
[06:31] <Aengus> inashdeen: understand what, how to install?
[06:31] <dr_willis> Its a kde widgit/plasid so has to run in the kde panel as far as i know.
[06:31] <dr_willis> !info lancelot
[06:31] <inashdeen> dr_willis : classic menu is to 98
[06:31] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  theres others mentioned at the askubuntu.com site.
[06:31] <almoxarife> simplicity is cairo-dock on gnome-shell, its almost like gnome2 inashdeen
[06:32] <inashdeen> Aengus : i try to run gnomenu on gnome3, ubuntu 11.10 , it doesnt work, tried cardapio
[06:32] <inashdeen> Aengus : dont like it./
[06:32] <inashdeen> Almoxarife : yes, i am using cairo dock, need to have a menu for it now
[06:33] <RamtinA> nikx:  That wasn't installed
[06:33] <almoxarife> inashdeen: need a menu for the menu?
[06:33] <nikx> RamtinA, install it then?
[06:33] <inashdeen> almoxarife : cairo dock only have trhe classic menu
[06:35] <RamtinA> nikx:  it dosen't work
[06:37] <nikx> RamtinA,  check out these other plugins mentioned here ... maybe one of the other ones were installed on your system https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[06:39] <inashdeen> bump
[06:40] <dr_willis> bumping dosent really do any good on irc....
[06:41] <almoxarife> I don't understand the term 'bump' someone want to explain it to me?
[06:41] <almoxarife> !info bump
[06:42] <dr_willis> its an attempt to get more attenton focused on a foruom thread post...
[06:42] <zabomber> hi guys. i have a script that needs to run at launch but under a different user
[06:43] <zabomber> so i login as "joe" i need "sues" script to be run
[06:43] <zabomber> automatically
[06:43] <zabomber> ??
[06:43] <dr_willis> zabomber:  and it does what exactly? runs an X app? just cli stuff?
[06:43] <almoxarife> inashdeen: I gave up when you said, 'cairo-dock only has classic menu' , I don't know how its classic
[06:43] <zabomber> its a honeypot. it starts a process and connect to a mysql database
[06:43] <zabomber> kippo
[06:43] <zabomber> user kippo needs to run /opt/kippo/start.sh
[06:43] <zabomber> to launch kippo at startup
[06:44] <dr_willis> zabomber:  you can use the su, and sudo commands to swtich to a differnt user if you have the proper permissions
[06:44] <zabomber> how do i give the user permission to su to kippo?
[06:44] <dr_willis> if you want it to run at BOOT time. /etc/rc.local is a good way to do it.
[06:45] <dr_willis> su -login billgates --command takeovertheworld
[06:45] <dr_willis> oops.. its --login :)
[06:45] <inashdeen> almoxarife : i do think that you don't get the point. ok, like this, how do i open applications on cairo dock?
[06:45] <zabomber> ok. that makes sense... but than how do i allow "joe" to su to --login the login account?
[06:46] <dd070> when rotatelogs run ?.
[06:46] <dr_willis> zabomber:  he may need to know the password for the other account
[06:46] <RamtinA> nikx: It doesn't work
[06:46] <dr_willis> zabomber:  try it and see if it works.
[06:47] <dr_willis> sudo i think can do a similer thing. but its more complex
[06:48] <zabomber> ta
[06:48] <zabomber> it worked
[06:48] <hopp3r> hi, for some reason, videos dont play for me
[06:48] <hopp3r> neither in movie player, nor in VLC player
[06:48] <hopp3r> it plays the sound
[06:48] <dmc68> Schizart is in sore need of a developer. We need someone who knows CSS/HTML?PHP and can hack/mod some wordpress/buddypress templates. please contact me if you are interested, you will get full credit on the site. for more info hit up http://www.schizart.com thank you for your time.
[06:49] <hopp3r> and shows a black screen
[06:49] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  tried other video files?
[06:49] <hopp3r> dr_willis: yes, various ones, all AVIs
[06:49] <dr_willis> ive seen some video codecs have that issue when they are not supported.
[06:50] <dr_willis> all 'avi' means veyr little.. avi can be any of several dozen codecs.
[06:50] <cebrere> anyone know anything about xchat?
[06:50] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  run vlc from a terminal, play the video. look for error messages.
[06:50] <hopp3r> dr_willis: thanks
[06:50] <dr_willis> cebrere:  i know it has a very well documented homepage/help docs. :) and its very popular.
[06:51] <cebrere> well, i was more curious about a command for looking at users in a channel
[06:51] <hopp3r> dr_willis: Blocked: call to setenv("_PX_CONFIG_ORDER", "", 1) | that mean anything?
[06:51] <cebrere> just a quick q for a quick A
[06:51] <dr_willis>  /who nickname
[06:51] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  nope.
[06:51] <hopp3r> dr_willis: well, thats all thats showing up x..x
[06:52] <dr_willis> not to me at least hopp3r . vlc and totem use very differnt players.  you could try the same thing with totem and see if any error messages show up.
[06:52] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  also you may want to track down some little video that other linux users in here can also try to play.
[06:52] <hopp3r> dr_willis: how about, I updated my ubuntu which used to be installed on another PC, whose hard drive I took, and put in my new system (i upgraded the install for possible driver issues)
[06:53] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  its possible its a video driver issue. what video card you have?
[06:53] <dr_willis> vlc has several options for its 'video out' rendering. it canuse.
[06:53] <hopp3r> dr_willis: NVIDA something or other
[06:55] <dr_willis> i will also mention ive seen odd video playback issues with err... lets say 'adult' videos that have annoying specialized drm protection....
[06:55] <dr_willis> ie: malware codecs
[06:55] <hopp3r> dr_willis: heh, I am watching a "legal" version of the simpsons here
[06:56] <hopp3r> its from a professional well rated website though
[06:56] <dr_willis> try some of the differnt 'video out' options in vlc perhaps. You did install the nvidia 3d drivers from the package manager?
[06:56] <hopp3r> dr_willis: yeah, I installed one
[06:56] <dr_willis> and you did reboot afterwards?
[06:56] <hopp3r> dr_willis: well, not from the package menu
[06:56] <hopp3r> dr_willis: well, not from the package menu
[06:57] <hopp3r> dr_willis: I went to the "Additional Drivers" window
[06:57] <hopp3r> is that ok?
[06:57] <dr_willis> that is just a front end to the normal repos :)
[06:58] <KingFisher> I want to hook up my netbook running Ubuntu to a samsung monitor
[06:58] <KingFisher> I want to hook up my samsung monitor to my ubuntu netbook
[06:59] <KingFisher> How can I do this?
[06:59] <KingFisher> So far it has been fruitless.
[06:59] <soreau> KingFisher: Plug it in
[06:59] <KingFisher> soreau, Thanks for the condescension. I have already plugged it in
[06:59] <KingFisher> That is kind of obvious.
[07:00] <soreau> KingFisher: What graphics driver?
[07:00] <nikx> lol KingFisher
[07:00] <KingFisher> soreau, I'll look it up hold on. I have a default program called "Monitor" on here that is supposed to be able to hook up a monitor to a laptop but its not working
[07:00] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  in vlc. under tools -> preferances, video. 'output' theres differnt outputs you can try.
[07:01] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  also the overlay setting may or may not be an issue
[07:02] <dr_willis> theres 'monitors' then theres 'displays' also i belive
[07:03] <dr_willis> You may be needing the'Displays' tool KingFisher  also in the past - ive had to use thelaptops special fn-XX keys to get external displays turned on
[07:03] <soreau> dr_willis: different versions of ubuntu label the menu entry differently
[07:03] <soreau> they all point to gnome-display-properties I believe
[07:03] <KingFisher> dr_willis, fn-xx keys?
[07:04] <soreau> but nvidia doesnt support randr 1.2 still I dont think
[07:04] <memogo> how to run the shutdown box on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:04] <memogo> using cli
[07:04] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Is it possible to mirror the desktop with or without the sound from one desktop playing a video to another?  Scenario:  I've got a movie playing on one machine, and I'd like to be seeing a window of the screen output on my laptop.
[07:05] <dr_willis> bitcycle: depending on the network speeds. you can ssh to the remote box. run vlc, and have it appear locally. If you have X forwarding enabled.
[07:05] <dr_willis> bitcycle:  sound would play on the remote box still.
[07:05] <soreau> bitcycle: You can use remote desktop but its not likely to be smooth because of graphics driver and network speeds
[07:06] <dr_willis> vnc as an alterantive. but that wouldbe slow for video playback
[07:06] <bitcycle> dr_gonzo: Its on the local home wireless network... not really a problem with network speeds.
[07:07] <soreau> bitcycle: It might be easier to mount the file system sshfs and play it locally on the lappy
[07:07] <bitcycle> soreau: for sure.  Thanks.
[07:07] <wookienz> anyone using the new asus zenbook?
[07:08] <soreau> ! anyone | wookienz
[07:08] <wookienz> soreau: fine ill rephrase
[07:09] <nikx> !details
[07:09] <wookienz> the zenbook from asus is having some issues with multi touch. Is anyone using this laptop and overcome the multi touch issue? sorry used anyone again!
[07:10] <soreau> wookienz: Try explaining what issues you are having exactly
[07:10] <wookienz> im not having any issues as i dont have one. I am ooking to buy one. Those who have one will know what i am talking baout
[07:11] <evanescent> after upgrading to 11.10 compiz crashes randomly (segmentation fault). compiz --replace fixes the problem temporarily, but this is very frustrating. anyone encounter a similar problem?
[07:11] <soreau> wookienz: You might ask in ##hardware or ##linux since the drivers arent exclusive to ubuntu
[07:12] <soreau> evanescent: You could at least enable crash handler and have it start a fallback wm, say metacity
[07:12] <soreau> evanescent: plugin in ccsm
[07:12] <evanescent> good idea
[07:12] <soreau> its possible it segfaults before it hits the crash handler code path though
[07:13] <evanescent> we'll find out
[07:13] <markkkz> hi, what file in /var/log are the init messages written to? Is it syslog or dmesg or both?
[07:13] <solars> hey, is there a tool to check harddisks in ubuntu?
[07:14] <Aengus> solars: specifically?
[07:15] <evanescent> enabling crash handler crashed compiz...
[07:15] <soreau> solars: sys>admin>disk utility?
[07:15] <markkkz> Solars: I use "disk utility"
[07:16] <markkkz> hi, which file in /var/log are the init messages specifically written to? Is it syslog or dmesg or both?
[07:16] <soreau> solars: To start it from terminal, run palimpsest
[07:16] <solars> thanks
[07:17] <evanescent> when compiz dies, the following appears in syslog: compiz[2807]: segfault at 250 ip 00007fbdf58a4420 sp 00007fffb2c55238 error 4 in libnux-1.0.so.0.1400.0[7fbdf571a000+1ca000]
[07:17] <soreau> evanescent: Sounds like a candidate for a bug report
[07:17] <evanescent> yeah
[07:17] <soreau> evanescent: Its clearly unity related
[07:18] <soreau> compiz itself does not use nux library
[07:18] <evanescent> i see
[07:18] <viper1981> hi
[07:20] <soreau> hi overdub ;)
[07:20]  * soreau yawns and goes to lie down
[07:20] <overdub> soreau: hi
[07:21] <markkkz> anybody know whatis the equivalent of 'klogd' or 'syslog.conf' on Ubuntu? I cannot find it in /etc
[07:22] <solars> soreau, markkkz anyone of you konw where this disk utility would be located in the newest ubuntu version? I only see a handful of system stuff there in the menu
[07:22] <solars> just out of curiosity
[07:23] <soreau> markkkz: It may be more practical for you to explain what problem you are having and how you are aiming to fix it
[07:23] <Aengus> solars:  df and fdisk are your friend
[07:23] <soreau> solars: That is why I told you how to run it from cli
[07:23] <solars> Aengus, I need to check the fs
[07:24] <soreau> it might be different in gnome3 though
[07:24] <Aengus> what do you mean?
[07:24] <solars> soreau, yes, but isn't it even included? weird
[07:24] <markkkz> solars: If you are using Unity, just type in "disk utility". or run command "palimpsest"
[07:24] <solars> bad sectors, smart status etc
[07:24] <Aengus> open terminal
[07:24] <solars> markkkz, yeah I have it, just wondered
[07:24] <Aengus> man df
[07:24] <Aengus> man fdisk
[07:24] <soreau> solars: That is why many do not care for unity or gnome3 interface
[07:24] <soreau> they hide a lot of useful items
[07:25] <solars> Aengus, I know what they do, its a disk space and partitioning utility...
[07:25] <markkkz> soreau: trying to see what messages are there on boot. I also want to change the verbose level if that is possible.
[07:25] <solars> soreau, it seems yeah, very annoying
[07:25] <soreau> not to mention unreliability/unstability
[07:25] <Aengus> solars:  then use the command line, why bother with some frontend
[07:25] <solars> I asked tools to check a fs
[07:25] <solars> not about a frontend
[07:26] <solars> and you suggested a partitioning and disk space utility
[07:26] <solars> thats what I meant, but I'm fine now as I don't care if its frontend or cmd line
[07:26] <soreau> markkkz: That doesnt explain what trouble you are having or the reason why you want to do that
[07:26] <Scott_S> @Solars: I just joined, what's the issue you're running into/your question?
[07:26] <solars> no issues, already was helped
[07:27] <markkkz> soreau: There is no problem. I want to look at what are these messages on init. That is why I asked which log is it written to - syslog or dmesg will do?
[07:27] <Scott_S> markkkz: As far as I know, there is no way to disable the splash screen on boot.
[07:27] <soreau> Scott_S: Yes, there is..
[07:27] <Scott_S> Soreau: Well, now you know his question. How would you go about doing that?
[07:27] <markkkz> Scott_S: that is easy. But I don't want to disable it, I want to see what is written on VT on boot, the same exact way but in a log file.
[07:28] <soreau> Scott_S: That is not what he is asking
[07:28] <soreau> he wants to review the log
[07:28] <markkkz> yes, which log is it?
[07:28] <markkkz> syslog?
[07:28] <markkkz> :)
[07:28] <soreau> I dont know if the text output at boot time is logged explicitly ver batim
[07:28] <markkkz> The exact same messages as displayed on VT during boot, from the kernel messags down to init messages before GDM is started and all that.
[07:28] <Scott_S> Googling right now, will return with an answer asap.
[07:28] <soreau> but dmesg shows all the pertinent useful information you would ever need
[07:29] <Doodie> hi, I installed ubuntu on a different partition but when I start my laptop, I always get 'grub rescue' screen. Is there a way so that I can tell my laptop that the grub is in that partition of harddisk?
[07:29] <Scott_S> markkkz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[07:29] <soreau> markkkz: You can set certain modules to be more verbose, but not sure about how to make the kernel be more verbose in general.. try ##linux maybe
[07:30] <Scott_S> Doodie: Boot up to an Ubuntu Live CD and run the GRUB2 installation on the hard disk again.
[07:30] <Zutara> How would I go about fixing "to be installed" & "is uninstallable" problems in 11.10?
[07:30] <markkkz> hmmm... because I am seeing things right on shutdown which I don't see in either syslog or dmesg. That is why I am curious. My system is stable., I'm just curious what those messages are.  Lots of them.
[07:30] <markkkz> Scott_S: thanks :)
[07:30] <Scott_S> markkkz: No problem.
[07:31] <Scott_S> Zutara: Are you talkingabout in the Aptitude package manager?
[07:31] <Zutara> yeah. Synaptic.
[07:31] <soreau> markkkz: If you could see all the internal messages that happen inside your computer, you could fill up volumes of meaningless jargon
[07:31] <Zutara> My brother is having problems installing stuff.
[07:31] <Doodie> Scott_S,  I am on the menu screen from the bootable cd but how can i get to install Grub2 ?
[07:31] <soreau> meaningless to humans, anyway
[07:32] <Scott_S> Doodie: Give me a minute here, and I'll find a tutorial. I don't know the command on-hand.
[07:32] <soreau> or most average users :P
[07:32] <Zutara> soreau: lol
[07:32] <Scott_S> Zutara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:32] <Scott_S> .. Woops, sorry.
[07:32] <blake> they should make a portable virtual desktop similar to mojopac but for linux
[07:32] <markkkz> soreau: That's ok. The fact that it is there has aroused my curiousity. Why is it there? Why are these not logged? If so, there may be ways to log these or suppress it from showing on the terminal.
[07:32] <Scott_S> Wrong person. Doodie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:32] <Zutara> that ok.
[07:32] <soreau> ! grub2 | Doodie
[07:33] <future>
[07:33] <soreau> markkkz: Try ##linux
[07:33] <soreau> somewhat beyond the scope of general ubuntu support
[07:33] <markkkz> soreau: is that linux IRC channel?
[07:34] <Scott_S> Zutara: Out of curosity, what is the package(s) that your brother is trying to install?
[07:34] <memogo> hi , is there a way to run lens wihthout unity plugin i.e : as standalone application?
[07:34] <markkkz> soreau: same server - freenode?
[07:34] <dr_willis> memogo:  not that ive ever seen.
[07:34] <soreau> markkkz: yes, the linux channel on freenode
[07:34] <Zutara> Scott_S: scratch
[07:35] <memogo> dr_willis : or is there a way to run unity plugin, but hide the left bar. i want to use dock
[07:35] <markkkz> soreau: Thanks. I'll try.
[07:35] <Zutara> Scott_S: It's made for Elementary but no one's ever in there.
[07:35] <Zutara> (the support chan that is)
[07:36] <Scott_S> Zutara: Is this a fresh installation? If it isn't, you can try running "sudo apt-get update", then try scratch via 'apt-get install scratch'
[07:37] <dr_willis> memogo:  i just set it really small and to auto hide with a large time till it displays
[07:38] <Zutara> Scott_S: it is a fresh installation. he added the PPA (it's still in the testing phases) and I told him to run the sudo update command, but wehn he tried to chek it for installation in Synaptic it gave him unsatisfiable errors.
[07:38] <dr_willis> ive not noticed if any of the docks out have gotten unity panel features yet or not.
[07:38] <markkkz> soreau: darn, can't talk on ##linux . it is being moderated.
[07:38] <dr_willis> markkkz:  you are a registered nick?
[07:39] <soreau> markkkz: See the topic or channel info there
[07:39] <memogo> dr_willis : that is not really what i wanted but thanx
[07:39] <markkkz> dr_willis: nope. I don't have one and never bothered to register. I just come here to ask for help from time to time and that has always been enough.
[07:39] <Scott_S> Zutara: the only thing I can think of is that it doesn't have the required dependencies, which would lead to it not being able to being installed. Generally though, Synaptic would auto-download those dependies... pretty weird.
[07:39] <Scott_S> Zutara: give me a minute and I'll try to get it up and running on my VM and I'll get back to you.
[07:39] <memogo> dr_willis: but then you dont use lens with it?
[07:39] <soreau> markkkz: Chanserv tells you what to do
[07:40] <dr_willis> memogo:  now a days. I use the left side panel and the awn dock. i set the panel to never hide these days. :)
[07:40] <Zutara> Scott_S: ok
[07:40] <dr_willis> gotta love big wide monitors
[07:40] <Zutara> :)
[07:40] <soreau> markkkz: To have access to most channels, you want a real irc client, ie not using a web client, and a registered nick
[07:41] <Zutara> XChat is the best IMHO.
[07:41] <dr_willis> I tend to use weechat these days
[07:41] <markkkz> soreau: Thanks. I read it. Ithink  I won't bother. The people there might not want to bother with my newbie question. LOL!
[07:41] <soreau> markkkz: Some channels have requirements to cut down on spam etc
[07:41] <Scott_S> Zutara: Have you attempted to use the 'apt-get install scratch' command after adding the ppa and using 'apt-get update'?
[07:41] <markkkz> i'm on XChat.
[07:41] <markkkz> not some web client :)
[07:41] <Zutara> no. I'll tell him to try that. brb
[07:41] <poyntz> hi all
[07:42] <poyntz> is it possible to install oneiric without overriding grub?
[07:42] <poyntz> so I could install off live CD, but then, if it overrides the current grub, I'd then have to reinstall windows 7?
[07:42] <soreau> markkkz: Also, many channels that have these requirements often yield some of the best information. Its never a bad idea to have a registered nick on freenode as its a valuable resource etc etc blah blah
[07:42] <dr_willis> what os is to be handling grub?
[07:42] <Scott_S> poyntz: If GRUB is already installed, it should auto-detect other installations. It should search for Windows and Ubuntu.
[07:43] <Zutara> The following packages have unmet dependancies: libglib libgtk etc.
[07:43] <markkkz> poyntz: I think I was able to do that but I had 2 disks, so 1 disk had Windows+Natty, the other disk had Oneiric. I jus switch disk prio on BIOS and the grub comes out different.
[07:43] <poyntz> Scott_S: it does :), but I borked my kubuntu installation when I tried to upgrade to oneiric
[07:43] <Doodie> Scott_S, Thank you , Grub is now working.
[07:43] <Scott_S> Doodie: Good to hear.
[07:43] <Zutara> ^ Scott_S:
[07:43] <EMKO> Is 11.10 buggy for you guys?
[07:43] <Scott_S> EMKO: I haven't had any issues with it as of  yet.
[07:44] <EMKO> Wow
[07:44] <helo> anyone else having qjackctl/jackd issues suddenly?
[07:44] <markkkz> soreau: Ayt, I'll register when google gives me zero. :) thanks man... ...
[07:44] <poyntz> Scott_S: so if I install oneiric from a live CD, will that use the current grub?
[07:44] <Scott_S> Zutara: You would have to install those dependies before attempting the install. Just type 'apt-get install (package)'. It'll go one by one, but it should work after you've met them all.
[07:44] <Scott_S> poyntz: It will most likely install GRUB again, but that GRUB should list Windows and Ubuntu as bootables too.
[07:45] <Scott_S> poyntz: I am not familiar with oneirc and so I cannot say for sure.
[07:45] <poyntz> Scott_S: will it still be my primary partition? aka will boot point to grub or the windows one?
[07:45] <Zutara> Scott_S: some of the packages are installed but their the old versions. some of the others aren;t even in the elementary/oneiric repos either.
[07:45] <EMKO> Firefox is messed up flash works rarely.  Left unity bar sometimes does show unless u minimize the app window
[07:45] <Scott_S> poyntz: Ah, I feel pretty dumb now. If you're looking to update your current installation, simply do so via the update manager.
[07:46] <EMKO> So I seen some updates I thought that would fix it and now the is doesn't boot lol
[07:46] <markkkz> EMKO: 11.10 is working find one my machine
[07:46] <dr_willis> EMKO:  flash has been an issue for the last 9000 years.. :)
[07:46] <markkkz> *fine
[07:46] <Zutara> but I'll see if he can install at least some of them. brb
[07:46] <Scott_S> EMKO: Did you use 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree', and have you installed the latest video drivers for your video card?
[07:46] <poyntz> Scott_S: I tried that, it screwed up kubuntu, and not entirely sure what it screwed up specifically. all i know is that basic linux commands were throwing errors
[07:47] <EMKO> Os doesn't boot after updates I have to load older one
[07:47] <poyntz> Scott_S: additionally I couldn't install the latest graphic driver for linux x64
[07:47] <Lolitha> #goc
[07:48] <Scott_S> poyntz: Are you using GRUB or the Windows boot loader?
[07:48] <poyntz> Scott_S: currently grub
[07:48] <poyntz> Scott_S: grub was unaffected by the upgrade
[07:48] <Scott_S> poyntz: I'm not too experienced with full upgrades, I generally wipe the old installation and install the newer distro.
[07:49] <EMKO> Mine says kernel panic can't load sda1 change boot=
[07:49] <poyntz> Scott_S: do you dual boot?
[07:49] <Scott_S> poyntz: I hope someone else can help you, I personally don't have enough experience to give you good advice.
[07:49] <Scott_S> poyntz: I run multiple hard drives and install different boot loaders. I've had too many issues with dual-booting.
[07:50] <poyntz> Scott_S: my fear is that when you dual boot the older of the two OS's hijacks boot loader
[07:50] <Scott_S> poyntz: Your Windows bootloader was already over-written, so at this point as GRUB is the main boot loader, installing a new distro shouldn't affect it much.
[07:51] <Scott_S> poyntz: When GRUB is installed, it scans for other OS partitions and lists them as bootable. Theoretically, installing a new distro would just change the boot list.
[07:52] <poyntz> Scott_S: so, the partition which currently hosts boot loader will still host bootloader if I install the latest kubuntu from a live-CD?
[07:53] <Scott_S> poyntz: Theoretically, yes. Just keep in mind I am not 100% sure and I would prefer if you got better info from #kubuntu or someone else here who has more experience.
[07:53] <EMKO> If I make a new partition in ubuntu why can't I write to it?
[07:53] <Scott_S> EMKO: Have you mounted the partition?
[07:53] <EMKO> Yes
[07:53] <poyntz> if we scrap the k from kubuntu and just say 'ubuntu' would you be 100% sure?
[07:54] <EMKO> Only can't make files with root in terminal
[07:54]  * Genupulas new install will hold the grub
[07:55] <EnigmaticEffigy> Scott_S, apt-get install scratch    outputs: http://pastebin.com/g9JwHVzq
[07:55] <Timewarper> hey
[07:55] <poyntz> that's strange
[07:56] <poyntz> last time I installed Kubuntu after install windows
[07:56] <dr_willis> when  doing some video  converting - ive notived the 'tumbnail image' for some videos change. Id like to find a way to manually select what frame that thumbnail uses.. anyone evern seen a tool that lets you set that?
[07:56] <Timewarper> i was told to install nvidia-current. As a result now all compositing is disabled and if i run nvidia-xconfig i cant even startx on boot.
[07:56] <Timewarper> help?
[07:56] <poyntz> Windows jacked the bootloader
[07:56] <jason_> quit
[07:56] <jason_> quit
[07:56] <jason_> exit
[07:56] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  whats your video chipset
[07:56] <FloodBot1> jason_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <blake> @poyntz use ubuntu live cd then install grub again
[07:57] <Scott_S> Timewarper: Download the latest drivers from http://www.nvidia.com
[07:57] <Timewarper> dr_willis, nvidia 9600m gt
[07:57] <Scott_S> Timewarper: There are instructions to install the drivers from the bootloader. One minute and I'll get them.
[07:57] <liam> is it possible to install 389 directory server on ubuntu 11.04? I see that there are packages here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-389-directory-server/+archive/ppa but I think that they are only for ubuntu 11.11...
[07:57] <Scott_S> Timewarper: I mean the terminal, sorry.
[07:57] <ROFLbeing> join #chatz
[07:58] <poyntz> blake: if i install on my old linux partition ie ext3/4 or whatever it is, will the new grub replace the old grub and be pointed to by the bootloader?
[07:58] <poyntz> or, will the bootloader look for the nfts partition
[07:59] <Timewarper> Scott_S, ok i will search nvidia.com
[07:59] <Timewarper> i thought there was a package that worked
[07:59] <Scott_S> EnigmaticEffigy: I'll give you a list of commands to use in a moment, sorry, lots of questions being asked lol.
[07:59] <Zutara> ahhh
[08:00] <poyntz> because partition ext# is older than my ntfs partition
[08:00] <blake> @pyntz it will detect your partitions that windows is installed on it will list it after
[08:02] <pac4> hi everybd
[08:02] <Scott_S> EnigmaticEffigy: It appears that have a .deb installer for Ubuntu: http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_1.4_Download (I am trying it right now. Will report with my findings... )
[08:03] <billybob> hi all, I,m have'n a pxe install problems for weeks now,  when running a unattended pxe install on ubuntu 11.04 server  ( "tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard" in the preseed file) on the first reboot of the fresh install all i get is a blinking cursor. But when i change the above line in the preseed file to ( tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-desktop ) everything works fine? ( but i get a desktop install.... )  i hav
[08:03] <poyntz> blake: alright i've give this a crach
[08:03] <poyntz> blake: *crack
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: expecting new grub from fresh install to replace old grub
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: and bootloader to point to new grub
[08:04] <iandalton> How can I associate a .pyw file with python in Nautilus?
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: rather than win7 bootloader
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: wish me luck
[08:04] <poyntz> thanks people
[08:04] <maximus_> ...
[08:07] <Scott_S> Zutara: Scartch installation successful by using the .deb installer: https://launchpad.net/~scratch/+archive/ppa/+files/scratch_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[08:08] <billybob> The same pxe boot problem is in 11.10 too
[08:10] <iandalton> And let me just vent: it is completely brain damaged that nautilus no longer has the "open with custom application" option. Bleh.
[08:12] <pnorman> I need to identify which of /dev/ttyS# is the motherboard header pins I just connected. Any suggestions?
[08:12] <Scott_S> iandalton: Currently going to try ubuntu-tweak to try and do what I believe you're trying. One minute.
[08:12] <billybob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874027 has the same pxe boot issue ( but he used kickstart to install )
[08:13] <EnigmaticEffigy> Scott_S, It worked, thanks!
[08:13] <Scott_S> EnigmaticEffigy: Good to hear.
[08:18] <Zutara> Scott_S: This is the Scratch EnigmaticEffigy was talking about: https://launchpad.net/scratch
[08:18] <Scott_S> iandalton: Ubuntu Tweak can be used to associate .pyw files with a program or command.
[08:18] <Scott_S> Zutara: This download should work for that: http://launchpad.net/scratch/1.0/1.0/+download/scratch_1.0-0~293~oneiric1_i386.deb
[08:19] <bkerensa> Can someone help me get my audio to work? My laptop internal speakers work fine but when I have external speakers plugged in they do not have any audio and my internel speakers still play any audio?
[08:19] <Scott_S> bkerensa: Generally, you have to set the output to the headphones. You can do this in the Audio Settings.
[08:19] <Zutara> That's the deb he's getting the dependency errors from. I get gconf errors due to only having a 9.10 based OS (Mint 9).
[08:20] <Scott_S> Zutara: I got the same program from that. it appears they are the same thing.
[08:20] <lotus> hello everyone ~ I need some help .
[08:20] <Scott_S> Zutara: Upon attempting to install, the .deb installer responded that there was a newer version already installed (I now have 1.5 installed)
[08:20] <bkerensa> Scott_S: Yeah well its not recognizing the external port at all and I already check Alsamixer... I have had this issue before I just forgot what line I added to alsa to make it work
[08:20] <Scott_S> lotus: What's your question?
[08:21] <lotus> hello everyone ~ I need some help . I want install lotus notes on my computer
[08:21] <lotus> Scott_S:  but I cannot find where to download it
[08:21] <Scott_S> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LotusNotes
[08:21] <Zutara> Scott_S: The scratch he installed look more like a sprite editor than a Text Editor. Sorry if I'm sounding harsh.
[08:22] <lotus> Scott_S:  what shold i say if i leran english badly
[08:22] <peppe__> ciao
[08:23] <Scott_S> Zutara: I wish I could say they were different, but the package maintaner and everything matches up.
[08:24] <Zutara> Hm. Nevermind then. Thanks for all your help.
[08:25] <pietrubens> install DVD ubuntu 11.04: when installing does NOT show option to "install ubuntu alongside windows", shows olny options "install OVER W7" or "other"
[08:25] <a34154ek> anyone running oneric ocelot aka 11.10?
[08:26] <pietrubens> what can i do to get this option?
[08:27] <dr_willis> pietrubens:  its not listed under 'other' ?
[08:27] <Exxon> hi
[08:27] <dr_willis> pietrubens:  it could be you have the max # of parttions allready (4 primary) - i always resize and set things up befor i even start the installer.
[08:27] <lotus> Scott_S:  Can you tell me which one is suitable for ubuntu 11  ?https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/reg/pick.do?source=ESD-NTSDOMTRL&S_TACT=109HD0PW&S_CMP=web_dw_rt_swd&lang=en_US
[08:28] <pietrubens> @dr_willis, no, it is not listed... how to resize those partitions in W7 in case I have 4?
[08:29] <pietrubens> in others, it just states some partitions (and i think indeed they were 4)
[08:29] <EnigmaticEffigy> These two are different: launchpad.net/scratch and launchpad.net/~scratch   I want launchpad.net/scratch but there are dependency errors
[08:29] <KevIza> hello everybody
[08:29] <KevIza> Can anybody assist me with setting up my OWA account PLEASE?
[08:29] <KevIza> I'm new 2 Ubuntu (11.10)
[08:30] <pietrubens> but it does not state which partition is what and it does not allow resizing, and i do not know where ubuntu will install (i didn't see any indicators, and some partitions are similar in size)
[08:31] <KevIza> ...... Anybody help???
[08:31] <a34154ek> hey I cant find the disk usage analyzer in 11.10. Please help!
[08:31] <somsip_> !anyone | a34154ek
[08:31] <bkerensa> Can someone help me get my audio to work? My laptop internal speakers work fine but when I have external speakers plugged in they do not have any audio and my internel speakers still play any audio?
[08:32] <KevIza> Does anyone/anybody know how I can use thunderbird to access my work's OUTLOOK WEB ACCESS????
[08:32] <KevIza> !anyone
[08:33] <KevIza> !details
[08:33] <soreau> KevIza: see !caps too
[08:33] <KevIza> ok
[08:34] <soreau> a34154ek: To start it from terminal, run palimpsest
[08:35] <KevIza> I have a problems with setting up my work's outlook web access account on thunderbird. I have Ubuntu 11.10 and I cannot get the information configured properly. The login works from my Windows PC, but not my Ubuntu.. message in T-bird states "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". any help?
[08:35] <KevIza> !caps
[08:35] <KevIza> lol ok
[08:36] <soreau> ! thunderbird | KevIza
[08:36] <a34154ek> soreau: thanks, it works. But still is it not available directly in 11.10? I have looked everywhere
[08:36] <soreau> a34154ek: unity and gnome3 suck
[08:37] <KevIza> thank you soreau I will give it a try
[08:39] <inashdeen> hi, is there a way to make a shutdown box for ubuntu
[08:40] <root> hello
[08:40] <Guest6065> hello everyone
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: what do you mean by a "shutdown box"?
[08:42] <EnigmaticEffigy> I'm trying to install libglib2.0-0_2.28.0-0 but I get this error: Breaks existing package 'libglib2.0-bin' dependency libglib2.0-0 (= 2.26.1-0ubuntu1)  How do I upgrade the old package to the new one?
[08:42] <soreau> KevIza: You might find some useful links here too https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1152&bih=661&gbv=2&q=thunderbird+setup+outlook&oq=thunderbird+setup+outloo&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=29572l30544l0l31937l6l6l0l2l2l0l292l950l0.1.3l4l0
[08:43] <gemunu> How can I play .wmv files on ubuntu? Smplayer dosn't work :(
[08:43] <devslash> I've got ubuntu running in a vm. how do i determine the partitions uuid?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> !wmv | gemunu
[08:43] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: Tried removing libglib2.0-bin?
[08:44] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : something like this http://imgur.com/OmjUt
[08:44] <devslash> anyone know ?
[08:44] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, If I do that it'll remove all of the applications that depend on it
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: Are you asking how to access the shutdown option?
[08:44] <Exxon> gemunu: use banshee
[08:44] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : yes
[08:45] <somsip_> devslash: sudo blkid ?
[08:45] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: better leave it alone then. Why are you trying to install a different version of glib?
[08:45] <devslash> i can't boot
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: What version of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso: but using cli
[08:45] <somsip_> devslash: so ask your real question
[08:45] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : 11.10 but without the unity plugin. i disabled them
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: wait, what?  You showed a GUI, and now you're asking for a command?
[08:45] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, Because scratch depends on the new version
[08:45] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : i want a command to run that gui box
[08:46] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: How are you trying to install scratch?
[08:46] <soreau> !info scratch
[08:46] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, With terminal with: apt-get scratch
[08:47] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : [note] i dont have unity plugin. so i need to make a button inside the menu. and how to access log out and lock screen. as you may see, that option is not in that box
[08:47] <devslash> I'm getting an error evms_activate is not available. crypt setup lvm device name (/dev/disk/by-uuid/myuuid). does not begin with /dev/mapper
[08:47] <soreau> !info natty scratch
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: what are you running for a GUI?
[08:47] <soreau> !info scratch natty
[08:47] <devslash> if someone can help me id really appreciate it