[02:18] <ZzeCoOl> console is for experts and console is the gnome way
[02:18] <ZzeCoOl> the end
[02:18] <ZzeCoOl> .-
[02:18] <haakonn_> ZzeCoOl:  beginners don't want a lot of configuration options
[02:18] <ZzeCoOl> .-
[02:18] <ZzeCoOl> you are mising the hole point of linux
[02:18] <haakonn_> ok, EOD ;)
[02:18] <node> ..I'm so gonna throw my notebook out of the windows if I can't get winexcvs to work today..
[02:19] <ZzeCoOl> linux isnt windows fansy things and eye kandyu
[02:19] <ZzeCoOl> it is console ....
[02:19] <haakonn_> the point of linux is to bring software freedom to the people, nothing more
[02:19] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[02:19] <node> the point of linux is to ave fun :P
[02:19] <haakonn_> it can be anything you want to, there is no "point"
[02:19] <node> now cut it out already
[02:19] <ZzeCoOl> im stoping u just cant understand
[02:19] <funkyhat> the point of GNU/Linux and various distros like Ubuntu however.....
[02:20] <funkyhat> is a lot more than freedom for the people.
[02:20] <haakonn_> funkyhat:  is to bring software freedom to the people, and be easy to use at the same time :)
[02:20] <funkyhat> yar :)
[02:20] <funkyhat> and to look nice :P
[02:20] <haakonn_> and ubuntu is exceptionally easy imho
[02:20] <node> isn't there a #Linux or #opensource for this ?
[02:21] <funkyhat> yeah, my 9 year old brother installed ubuntu for me yesterday on my server box :P
[02:21] <haakonn_> i was able to install all kinds of software _and_ get my 8-year-old printer working without touching a console window
[02:21] <trey3> node, for this? no
[02:21] <funkyhat> i'm configing it now
[02:21] <haakonn_> funkyhat:  cool brother :)
[02:21] <funkyhat> yep :)
[02:22] <klaym> but installing ubuntu is just pressing enter
[02:22] <klaym> tbh
[02:22] <klaym> ;)
[02:22] <node> heh
[02:22] <haakonn_> klaym:  stop complaining ;)
[02:22] <arabflak> Not entirely Klaym.
[02:22] <arabflak> If you have clean system, then it's just pressing enter.
[02:22] <ZzeCoOl> my cat install ubuntu at my box.......
[02:22] <ZzeCoOl> installed
[02:22] <ZzeCoOl> *
[02:22] <haakonn_> the only thing i don't like about ubuntu is that it needs a very long time to boot
[02:23] <funkyhat> by accident yeah?
[02:23] <funkyhat> and you killed it cos it overwrote fedora?
[02:23] <haakonn_> hehe, cats sure love to step on keyboards
[02:23] <lexhider> has anyone got totem-gstreamer to play anything decent at all?
[02:23] <node> my dog does too
[02:23] <node> thinks he's a cat
[02:23] <ZzeCoOl> haakonn_ as a linux expert u are ....you can easy change this............
[02:23] <ZzeCoOl> omg
[02:24] <trey3> haakonn_, hoary boots in 40 secs according to tests (and confirmed on personal box)
[02:24] <wza> how can i change default os to boot in a dualboot menu?
[02:24] <trey3> haakonn_, from power on to ability to log into X... about 42 secs...
[02:25] <haakonn_> ZzeCoOl:  i haven't looked into it, it's my father's pc, and he lives a while away :/
[02:25] <node> sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:25] <wza> thnx
[02:25] <arabflak> You know what I like so much about Linux?
[02:25] <haakonn_> trey3:  hm, that's faster than what i've seen, but then this system is a bit old :)
[02:25] <arabflak> Or Ubuntu especially.
[02:25] <arabflak> It's been on my computer now for 3 hours and it's working perfectly.
[02:25] <node> arabflak, they have hot promo chicks ?  I'm a noob at this)
[02:27] <da_henk> is that necassary for an nvidia fx5700?? :P ubuntu live is no problem.....
[02:27] <da_henk> so why is the ubuntu install?? :P
[02:27] <daniels> da_henk: nvidia didn't have drivers for the fx5700 out when we released
[02:27] <node> what is the error ur getting?
[02:27] <arabflak> Wanna hear something funny...
[02:28] <arabflak> I tried the live cd, I have a Nvidia FX5600... and I got a black screen :P
[02:28] <trey3> da_henk, for one... right now... the live cd and install cd use different mechanisms for detecting hardware...
[02:28] <da_henk> it's something with xgraphics can't work
[02:28] <da_henk> ok... so i need to get drivers for my graph card??
[02:29] <trey3> da_henk, looks like...  :)
[02:29] <trey3> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <da_henk> ok :P
[02:30] <larsrohdin> node, how ca i uninstall a game installed with cedega? the uninstall thing didn't work
[02:31] <funkyhat> does VNC work in command line linux?
[02:32] <funkyhat> meh......... *is stupid*
[02:32] <node> larsrohdin, I think it takes some time before it set up a registry
[02:32] <funkyhat> what program do i need to use SSH on a windows client?
[02:32] <node> larsrohdin, after a while (or a reboot perhaps) u can uninstaller
[02:32] <trey3> funkyhat, putty
[02:32] <scizzo> trey3: might be because they are often used in different situations?
[02:32] <node> thats what I experienced anyways
[02:32] <larsrohdin> ok... so im screwed then=) i removed it manually...
[02:33] <node> why ?
[02:33] <node> just wait a bit
[02:33] <arabflak> BTW, I was wondering how I could get to my other partitions... since I can't reach my *uch* windows partition...
[02:33] <larsrohdin> ok, ill try to reeboot
[02:33] <node> funkyhat, u can got www.ssh.com
[02:33] <node> or putty indeed
[02:33] <trey3> scizzo, I suppose... just never seen a situation where I would use vnc over ssh x forwarding yet  :(
[02:34] <scizzo> trey3: they are used differently...
[02:35] <scizzo> trey3: VNC is nice when it comes to connect to a remote machine that has for example GNOME running or something
[02:35] <funkyhat> once i've installed ubuntu again
[02:35] <scizzo> funkyhat: install it again?P
[02:35] <scizzo> just install SSH
[02:36] <funkyhat> i'm installing it in custom mode so it doesn't install all the crap i'm not gonna need
[02:36] <arabflak> So, how do I reach my other HDD's?
[02:36] <scizzo> funkyhat: apt-get install openssh-server
[02:37] <scizzo> or if apt-get install ssh works
[02:37] <funkyhat> meh.... i suppose now it's installed i may as well just remove unwanted packages
[02:37] <trey3> funkyhat, apt-get install debfoster to make that easier  :)
[02:37] <funkyhat> oki
[02:38] <Lowry> night
[02:39] <scizzo> deborphan is nice too
[02:40] <zAo^> arabflak, cat /proc/partitions
[02:40] <arabflak> And then? :P
[02:40] <arabflak> I want to automount the hdd's on boot :P
[02:41] <zAo^> arabflak, sudo vi /etc/fstab
[02:41] <mickatron> Does anyone know which package to go for if I want to install Opera into my Ubuntu?
[02:41] <arabflak> Friggin hell, Vi.
[02:42] <zAo^> arabflak, wtf? use joe instead
[02:42] <Gagatan> mickatron: Opera is not shipped with any debian I think.. download a deb from opera software perhaps?
[02:42] <mickatron> When I execute it, it gives me an error message.
[02:43] <mickatron> Something about not being to read the format.
[02:43] <mickatron> rpm definitely doesn't wor.
[02:43] <mickatron> *work
[02:43] <scizzo> mickatron: get the .deb
[02:43] <arabflak> zAo^, I'm getting Vi, never mind :P
[02:43] <arabflak> Just not entirely sure what to enter here :P
[02:44] <mickatron> I tried getting the deb... it gave me an error message.
[02:44] <scizzo> mickatron: when doing what?
[02:44] <mickatron> Couldn't display "/home/fookongmick/My Downloa...5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb".
[02:44] <zAo^> arabflak, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[02:44] <mickatron> I get this error message.
[02:44] <node> try 'sudo alien -i opera.rpm'
[02:44] <trey3> mickatron, http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=Opera&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all
[02:45] <scizzo> mickatron: ooo...change the download dir
[02:45] <scizzo> mickatron: might help
[02:45] <mickatron> Supposing I go for the tar.gz
[02:46] <mickatron> How do I install it?
[02:46] <larsrohdin> node, can i use cedega to install mods and patches to games?
[02:46] <funkyhat> make
[02:46] <trey3> mickatron, ahh... 'My\ Downloads' is how you'd enter that for bash...
[02:46] <node> larsrohdin, no idea :)
[02:46] <arabflak> zAo^, I'm not getting this I think :P
[02:47] <trey3> mickatron, bash doesn't like spaces too much...
[02:47] <arabflak> Sorry, I'll try some other time, right now I have to check my windows partition :P
[02:47] <zAo^> arabflak, why? what do you want to mount where?
[02:47] <mickatron> So I can try changing it to Mydownloads?
[02:47] <arabflak> Everything, somewhere?
[02:47] <node> larsrohdin, did the uninstaller work now ?
[02:48] <zAo^> arabflak, can I login from here with a testuser
[02:48] <zAo^> ?
[02:48] <larsrohdin> haven't tried yet...
[02:48] <mickatron> I changed it to Downloads instead of My Downlaods.
[02:48] <node> mickatron, 'sudo mv My\ Download Downloads' ?
[02:48] <trey3> mickatron, that would be kinda... like I said though... will work if you type 'My\ Downloads'
[02:48] <mickatron> Don't get what you mean node
[02:49] <node> mickatron, nm, I see u already changed it ;)
[02:49] <mickatron> Now I have changed it to Downloads only.
[02:49] <mickatron> So how do I go about it now?
[02:49] <cetanhota> I want to grab the ndiswrapper package. its at universe correct?
[02:49] <node> are u working in the command line ?
[02:49] <larsrohdin> node, does cedega work well when playing on LAN with microsoft systems?
[02:49] <mickatron> Yea
[02:49] <mickatron> I am in the shell now.
[02:50] <zAo^> larsrohdin, which game?
[02:50] <node> larsrohdin, dunno, I dont use cedega :P
[02:50] <trey3> cetanhota, yes... 'ndiswrapper-source'
[02:50] <cetanhota> trey3, thanks
[02:50] <larsrohdin> battlefield 1942 for example
[02:50] <zAo^> larsrohdin, 99% sure
[02:50] <arabflak> Hey, thanks for all the help guys, I'm prolly gonna come round more often :)
[02:51] <arabflak> See ya :)
[02:51] <arabflak> -off-
[02:51] <node> mickatron, 'tar -zxvf opera.tar.gz && cd opera_dir && configure && make && make install'
[02:51] <node> should do the trick
[02:51] <mickatron> I downloaded the *deb installer.
[02:51] <zAo^> :-)
[02:51] <node> lol
[02:51] <mickatron> Does it work on ubuntu?
[02:51] <larsrohdin> to play a game installed with cedega... is it just $ cedega /home/larsrohdin/games/the-game.exe?
[02:51] <node> 'sudo dpkg -i opera.deb'
[02:52] <zAo^> yes larsrohdin
[02:53] <larsrohdin> ok thanks
[02:53] <node> i need a creditcard so i can download cedega :P
[02:53] <node> damn
[02:53] <zAo^> node, ....... ;-)
[02:53] <mickatron> Is that the usual command line for any *deb installation?
[02:54] <larsrohdin> no, that didnt work...
[02:54] <node> larsrohdin, do u have Point2Play installed ?
[02:54] <larsrohdin> no
[02:55] <node> did u get cedega from transgaming ?
[02:55] <zAo^> larsrohdin, what error message
[02:55] <larsrohdin> none it just stops running... like: larsrohdin@USAMA:~ $ cedega /home/larsrohdin/Desktop/home/Games/battlefield1942/ BF1942.exe
[02:55] <larsrohdin> larsrohdin@USAMA:~ $
[02:56] <node> U should get Point2Play larsrohdin
[02:56] <node> its a GUI for cedega
[02:56] <larsrohdin> node, from apt-get?
[02:56] <node> no, from www.transgaming.com
[02:56] <node> where u got cedega
[02:57] <no0tic> what's the name of xorg drivers for radeon cards?
[02:57] <larsrohdin> ok...=) yeah, where i got cedega...=)
[02:57] <daniels> no0tic: 'radeon'
[02:57] <daniels> or just 'ati'
[02:57] <larsrohdin> ok, ill give it a try
[02:57] <no0tic> daniels: it's the same?
[02:57] <daniels> no0	yes
[02:58] <SirPsy> hows the out of the box radeon graphics support in ubuntu
[02:58] <no0tic> ok thanks
[02:58] <daniels> SirPsy: 3d for everything up to and including 9250 (r1xx/r2xx); 2d for everything on the market
[02:58] <no0tic> bye, testing suspend :)
[02:58] <SirPsy> nice
[02:59] <SirPsy> and another question, this is probably gonna be the biggest issue, hows the onboard lan supportr
[02:59] <SirPsy> cuz i can remember having hell with other linux distro's
[03:00] <daniels> SirPsy: uh, what sort of motherboard?
[03:00] <daniels> SirPsy: should be fine
[03:00] <SirPsy> p4p800-vm intel pro chipset on the nic
[03:00] <kquamme94> good morning everyone
[03:00] <node> hi
[03:00] <funkyhat> morning
[03:00] <SirPsy> it used to give me shit on most linux distro's
[03:00] <SirPsy> :/
[03:01] <knghtbrd> daniels: no 3D for current ATI crapsets?  Er, I mean chipsets?
[03:01] <kquamme94> great crisp day here in the tudra, what about you guys?
[03:01] <knghtbrd> (you can't tell I'm a NV user?  hehe)
[03:01] <daniels> knghtbrd: /topic
[03:01] <daniels> knghtbrd: (and no, it's all in fglrx, and binary-only drivers are a horror show, so we just install the normal drivers by default.  the open-source ati driver does a far better job of detecting connected displays, anyway.)
[03:02] <Alcee> hi everybody
[03:02] <mjg59> Hurray for open source!
[03:02] <funkyhat> lol
[03:02] <knghtbrd> daniels: *nod*
[03:02] <mjg59> (ATI and Nvidia both get the COCKS prize for not implementing power management properly)
[03:02] <haakonn_> unfree drivers is a horrible thing
[03:02] <daniels> mjg59: dubious prize
[03:03] <knghtbrd> daniels: okay, I was thinking that fglrx didn't even uspport them..
[03:03] <funkyhat> mjg59, i have no probs with power management with my Nvidia....
[03:03] <knghtbrd> mjg59: power management?  hahaha  Don't all of these modern cards require like extra major power off the drive connectors anymore?  It's pretty scary, actually.
[03:04] <mjg59> knghtbrd: The ones on laptops don't tend to
[03:04] <knghtbrd> one would hope not.
[03:04] <mjg59> funkyhat: It /might/ work with APM (though it'll break when the legacy power management support goes away in the near future). If it works with ACPI, it's entirely by chance.
[03:05] <funkyhat> hehe, i must have got lucky then
[03:09] <no0tic> I changed to "ati" but direct rendering doesn't work. Xorg.0.log didn't show errors though
[03:10] <Guardiann> anyone know much about setting up xine to recognize my dvd player at start up
[03:10] <no0tic> daniels: I changed to "ati" but direct rendering doesn't work. Xorg.0.log didn't show errors though
[03:11] <daniels> no0tic: what sort of card do you have?
[03:11] <no0tic> daniels: RV250 (radeon 9200 M9+)
[03:11] <Guardiann> i can get it to work by typing this ln -s hdc /dev/dvd
[03:11] <daniels> no0tic: odd.
[03:12] <klaym> does there come a bluetooth application by default with ubuntu?
[03:12] <no0tic> daniels: I rebooted, not only restarted Xorg
[03:13] <no0tic> daniels: dpkg reconfigure shall do something?
[03:13] <topyli> klaym: like what? you can do many things over bluetooth (or so they say)
[03:13] <klaym> to upload and download stuff from my Nokia
[03:13] <klaym> it's a USB dongle thing
[03:14] <funkyhat> there are several bluetooth apps available in the synaptic package thingy....
[03:14] <klaym> okay
[03:14] <topyli> klaym: which nokia? mine sure won't work
[03:14] <klaym> 6600
[03:15] <daniels> hm, looks like mplayer is screwed.
[03:15] <funkyhat> nokias need a special prog from the nokia website, or CD.....
[03:15] <daniels> no0tic: XORG_FORCE_PROBE=yes sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:15] <jono> hi all
[03:15] <funkyhat> don't they?
[03:15] <funkyhat> hi
[03:15] <klaym> might be. haven't even tested yet :P
[03:15] <Guardiann> hi jono
[03:16] <eder2> hi, what can i unistall j2re from computer and install other old version???
[03:16] <klaym> it sucks that they don't work just as any flash memories
[03:16] <topyli> klaym: does gnokii support it? or gammu perhaps? worry about the bloody phone, bluetooth is probably the easy part
[03:16] <jono> hi Guardiann
[03:16] <no0tic> daniels: then I restart Xorg?
[03:16] <klaym> ok I'll go surf the net
[03:16] <topyli> klaym: as you see, i don't have much faith left in nokia :)
[03:17] <klaym> :/
[03:17] <topyli> klaym: if yours supports bluetooth, you may have less (or at least different) trouble than me
[03:17] <eder2> what is the command for unistall a packet??
[03:17] <eder2> .deb==?
[03:18] <moquist> eder2: apt-get remove
[03:18] <eder2> ok
[03:18] <moquist> eder2: 'man apt-get'... ;)
[03:18] <klaym> topyli: you had trouble with a symbian phone?
[03:18] <daniels> no0tic: yeah
[03:18] <daniels> jono: hey dude
[03:18] <topyli> klaym: yes, the commie
[03:18] <no0tic> daniels: nothing to do
[03:19] <moquist> speaking of learning new commands, I just discovered 'alien' - which *rules*!
[03:19] <no0tic> daniels: restarted Xorg but direct rendering is off
[03:19] <Guardiann> daniels is there a way of having this command start on reboot ln -s hdc /dev/dvd
[03:19] <klaym> at least the communicator should have a fluent connection to a PC. Damn Nokia!
[03:19] <daniels> no0tic: odd
[03:19] <daniels> no0tic: if you put your log somewhere I'll have a look at it
[03:20] <daniels> Guardiann: you want it in udev somewhere
[03:20] <jono> hi daniels
[03:20] <topyli> klaym: it does work perfectly with a pc. but nokia's definition of a pc is different from ours :)
[03:20] <no0tic> daniels: Xorg.0.log?
[03:20] <Guardiann> ok thanks
[03:21] <daniels> no0tic: yeah
[03:21] <klaym> topyli: so you can't get it to work on Linux?
[03:21] <cyme> how do i install wine
[03:21] <topyli> klaym: actually, they do always talk about "compatible" pc's
[03:22] <cyme> can anybody help me to install wine
[03:22] <bloomberg> no sound on ubuntu, any help?
[03:22] <topyli> klaym: i'm having trouble with connecting. p3nfs over the cable is unstable, and i can't get the darn infrared dongle to work
[03:23] <mjg59> Oh. Oops.
[03:23] <topyli> klaym: i haven't even started to worry about the userland stuff like applications
[03:23] <funkyhat> anyone know if wine is available through apt-get?
[03:23] <mjg59> Turns out it's illegal to provide nvidia drivers that work with 2.6.9
[03:23] <mjg59> (or 2.6.10)
[03:23] <funkyhat> O_O why?
[03:23] <no0tic> daniels: http://rafb.net/paste/results/w7uG6w71.html
[03:23] <klaym> okay. so it might be just a faulty IR dongle ;)
[03:23] <mjg59> It needs modification to work with them, and there's no permission to modify them
[03:24] <funkyhat> how gay....
[03:25] <topyli> klaym: no, i have a windows 98 box here for comparison. everything works beautifully there
[03:25] <Guardiann> bloomberg are you using warty/hoary
[03:25] <bloomberg> sorry don't know what they are; i'm new to UNIX
[03:25] <topyli> klaym: i might end up using the nokia pc suite on windows over VNC :)
[03:25] <Guardiann> are you using ubuntu
[03:26] <bloomberg> yep
[03:26] <kakashi> i have a problem anyone here to help??? pls
[03:27] <daniels> no0tic: oh, right.  apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx.
[03:27] <Guardiann> it may depend then on the version your using then bloomberg
[03:27] <funkyhat> what is the problem?
[03:27] <topyli> klaym: anyway, i'm building another kernel to see if i can improve the irda stuff. you'll have an easier time (and more help) with bluetooth, it's more common these days
[03:27] <node> I need some help with Cedega, while compiling I get the following error' http://www.bobjonesonline.com/tmp/Errorlog.txt '
[03:27] <bloomberg> how can i find out which build i have
[03:27] <kakashi> the problem is that i need to get to my partitions on windows from linux but i do not know how
[03:27] <kakashi> ???
[03:28] <kakashi> any idea???
[03:28] <kakashi> someone???!!!
[03:28] <Simira> kakashi: you can mount it as any other device
[03:28] <kakashi> OK
[03:29] <scylax> funkyhat: mount ;)
[03:29] <kakashi> where to mount it???
[03:29] <cetanhota> to turn off acpi at boot is it acpi=off or acpi=false?
[03:29] <funkyhat> oh
[03:29] <kakashi> in wich foulder???
[03:29] <topyli> paff. that's the end of _that_ compile :)
[03:29] <mjg59> cetanhota: acpi=off
[03:29] <Guardiann> bloomberg it will tell you your version and start up/reboot
[03:29] <Falstius> funkyhat, depends on the flavor of linux.  Ubuntu does
[03:29] <mjg59> funkyhat: It does, but it's read-only
[03:29] <cetanhota> mjg59, thanks. I get confused now and then. more now than then
[03:30] <kakashi> Simira: in wich foulder can i mount the device
[03:30] <bloomberg> so u need 2 know what version im using before u can tell me why there is no sound on here
[03:30] <stvn> is there any other way to access samba shares with ubuntu-hoary - other than 'connect to remote server'?
[03:31] <Guardiann> yep mine worked in warty but not hoary
[03:31] <stvn> kakashi: /mnt is a good folder to start
[03:31] <topyli> ahh... the debian kernel patch package seems to be missing something
[03:31] <no0tic> daniels: done, I will test it
[03:31] <kakashi> stvn: nothing in there?????!!!!!
[03:31] <Simira> kakashi: you'll have to make a mount point
[03:31] <no0tic> daniels: from where did you noticed they where installed?
[03:31] <Falstius> mkdir /mnt/removable
[03:31] <Simira> mkdir /mnt/winpart, for example
[03:31] <daniels> no0tic: a good guess
[03:32] <kakashi> Simira: you have to know i am a beginner
[03:32] <stvn> kakashi: that's generally the idea for mountpoints ;), you need to 'mount' your windows partition to that directory
[03:32] <kakashi> Simira: how to make a mountpoint???
[03:32] <Falstius> kakashi: mkdir /mnt/removable is a useful one.
[03:32] <stvn> kakashi: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions/view?searchterm=mount%20windows
[03:32] <node> I need some help with Cedega, while compiling I get the following error' http://www.bobjonesonline.com/tmp/Errorlog.txt '
[03:33] <no0tic> daniels: they in some way affected something? also using another driver?
[03:34] <daniels> no0tic: they have their own copy of the client-side GL library, as does nvidia-glx
[03:34] <daniels> no0tic: so that can mess stuff up
[03:34] <stvn> is there a way to get around to no-user-smbmount policy of hoary?
[03:35] <no0tic> daniels: thanks for the explanation
[03:35] <kakashi> thanks
[03:36] <nyxx> guys, my main computer died so I'm running ubuntu livecd on a secondary computer with no internal hdd.. I do have a external usb drive (plugged into usb1.1 unfortunately) is there a way to have it save my changes on it (I don't care if I have to continue using the livecd)
[03:37] <bloomberg> aparently im warty
[03:37] <sladen> nyxx: 'File -> Save As'
[03:37] <sladen> nyxx: there are other ways, but that's probably the simplist
[03:37] <nyxx> well, I meant stuff like changes I made to x-chat and potentially extra software packages (I'm probably stretching it with that hope though)
[03:38] <Guardiann> you have no sound at all bloomberg
[03:38] <bloomberg> yes thats correct
[03:38] <sladen> nyxx: there's an option somewhere to save your home directory to USB media (it's designed for USB sticks, but a HDD is the same, just larger)
[03:38] <Falstius> nyxx, you could make a custom liveCD with your usb device as home.
[03:39] <Guardiann> not sure then
[03:39] <sladen> Falstius: probably not practical given the broken HHD
[03:39] <bloomberg> I get "Sorry no mixer elements and.or devices found" when i try to open vol.control
[03:39] <nyxx> sladen, do you remember how I can do that?
[03:39] <Guardiann> i had that problem but it was in hoary
[03:40] <topyli> Falstius:  that would be cool. doesn't the mandrake live cd do that?
[03:40] <bloomberg> how did u fix it?
[03:40] <nyxx> Falstius, my main pc is completely down due to mobo death.. I can't make any new cds right now :(
[03:40] <Guardiann> didnt have the issue on warty
[03:41] <Guardiann> but on hoary i had to disable in my setup the on board modem
[03:41] <sladen> nyxx: I don't, but Google can probably help  'Mop
[03:41] <sladen> nyxx: I don't, but Google can probably help  'Ubuntu LiveCD USB home'
[03:42] <nyxx> thanks sladen
[03:42] <bloomberg> so no help?
[03:42] <Guardiann> i just told you whaty i had to change to fix it
[03:43] <topyli> Guardiann: onboard stuff often gets in the way
[03:43] <Guardiann> yep i found that out :)
[03:43] <topyli> when i built this box, i disabled everything first thing :)
[03:44] <Guardiann> warty worked well but the onboard modem had a problem with hoary
[03:44] <Cygnusx> hi crimsun, im back
[03:45] <topyli> i think i'll upgrade. i'm tired of trying to get this hardware to work. and the day is already ruined
[03:45] <no0tic> daniels: now, radeon driver works
[03:45] <no0tic> daniels: thanks
[03:45] <Guardiann> now i am just trying to set xine so it will work :)
[03:45] <topyli> i need software problems for a change. not cables and dongles and whatnot :)
[03:46] <Guardiann> :)
[03:46] <funkyhat> ok run me by setting up SSH again
[03:46] <funkyhat> :D please
[03:46] <topyli> in fact i think i'll install windows 2000. that'll keep me busy with software problems for a while
[03:47] <Guardiann> maybe you know how i can set this xine works well when I type this   ln -s hdc /dev/dvd  But I want to set it so that starts at boot
[03:48] <Cygnusx> Help me, how can i disable/prevent Gnome to start up
[03:48] <Cygnusx> in Ubuntu Warty
[03:49] <topyli> Guardiann: you might try to convice xine to use /dev/hcd in the first place, and not make any links
[03:49] <node> rm -r /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm
[03:49] <topyli> or /dev/hdc even
[03:49] <sladen> Cygnusx: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm
[03:50] <Guardiann> yeah tried
[03:50] <node> errr - -r :P
[03:50] <petemc> is it possible to access osx partitions on a powerbook using the live cd?
[03:50] <Cygnusx> sladen , i need to let XPDE run on boot, in stead of Gnome
[03:52] <topyli> Guardiann: it won't listen to reason?
[03:52] <Guardiann> not at all :)
[03:53] <Guardiann> but at least I can get it to work now
[03:53] <no0tic> suspend doesn't work here
[03:53] <topyli> Guardiann: i don't know how to handle udev. i wanted to make it create /dev/ircomm0 at boot but no
[03:53] <funkyhat> how do i configure ssh-server, or what login paramaters do i use?
[03:54] <Guardiann> ok thanks I will keep messing with it ;)
[03:54] <topyli> i think i'll reboot just for sports and see if irda will magically work
[03:55] <scylax> how can i execute two commands "in parallel" ? (a bit like msdos batch "call whatever.bat")??
[03:56] <mjr> scylax, do_this_in_background &
[03:56] <mjr> though I don't know what you mean by the call thing, since ms-dos doesn't support multitaskin
[03:56] <mjr> g
[03:57] <scylax> yes,confused
[03:57] <scylax> i'll try &
[03:57] <Guardiann> brb
[03:58] <Cygnusx> how do i shutdown the pc in text mode
[03:58] <mjr> sudo halt
[03:58] <Cygnusx> ok
[03:59] <funkyhat> how do i configure ssh?
[04:01] <topyli> funkyhat: the daemon?
[04:01] <mjr> man ssh_config, man sshd_config helps
[04:01] <funkyhat> the server
[04:01] <larsrohdin> node, how do i start point2play when its installed?
[04:02] <node> type Point2Play
[04:02] <topyli> funkyhat: dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[04:02] <funkyhat> ok
[04:02] <larsrohdin> ohhh=)
[04:04] <kakashi> hlp again pls someone .... problem with music a films
[04:04] <kakashi> totem player is not playing any .avi files and music player does not play any .mp3 files
[04:05] <kakashi> what shall i do???
[04:05] <kakashi> help pls
[04:05] <wezzer-> kakashi: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:05] <wezzer-> type that to console
[04:05] <kakashi> ok
[04:05] <wezzer-> that will correct that mp3-support
[04:05] <node> I need some help with Cedega, while compiling I get the following error' http://www.bobjonesonline.com/tmp/Errorlog.txt '
[04:05] <wezzer-> i use mplayer so I don't know how to get totem to play avi's
[04:05] <bassinboy> how can i edit gnome menus?
[04:06] <wezzer-> bassinboy: nautilus:///applications
[04:06] <bassinboy> thanks
[04:07] <wezzer-> oh sorry
[04:07] <wezzer-> it was backwards
[04:07] <stvn> kakashi: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/view?searchterm=mp3
[04:07] <wezzer-> applications:///
[04:07] <bassinboy> heh, thanks
[04:08] <funkyhat> how do i find out my IP address from CLI?
[04:08] <paulproteus> funkyhat: ifconfig
[04:08] <funkyhat> thanks :)
[04:08] <paulproteus> alternately, ifconfig interface_name
[04:09] <paulproteus> e.g. "ifconfig eth0" or "ifconfig wlan0"
[04:11] <icerogue> hey i am getting a domain name shortly, so how do i set up my mail/http server to be apart of that?
[04:11] <funkyhat> depends on what DNS service you get from your registrar
[04:12] <funkyhat> if you get DNS from www.zoneedit.com or something (i use zoneedit) you can configure everything about your domain, IP addresses, mail servers, web forwards etc.
[04:12] <icerogue> i have to change somestuff on my local machine though dont i?
[04:12] <funkyhat> but generally your registrar's DNS will be pretty limiting
[04:14] <larsrohdin> does anyone know what this error in cedega means?
[04:14] <larsrohdin> larsrohdin@USAMA:~ $ cedega /home/larsrohdin/Desktop/home/Games/battlefield1942/BF1942.exe
[04:14] <larsrohdin> tid 4682 received signal 2. Raising signal 3
[04:14] <larsrohdin> tid 4682 received signal 11. Raising signal 3
[04:14] <larsrohdin> tid 4688 received signal 2. Raising signal 3
[04:14] <larsrohdin> tid 4688 received signal 11. Raising signal 3
[04:14] <larsrohdin> /usr/bin/cedega: line 334:  4682 Segmenteringsfel        $SHELL -c "$RUNWINE $WINVER -debugmsg $DEBUGMSG -use-dos-cwd $WORKDIR $EJECT $DT -- $COMMAND_LINE"
[04:14] <gt500> hell0w peepz :)
[04:15] <zido_> is there a DC program for Linux?
[04:15] <funkyhat> icerogue: you probably need to set up your mail server to accept mail for the domain
[04:15] <gt500> is there someone who can help me ? I wanna become a maintainer , i read the info & stuff , but where is the page to really become one ... ?
[04:15] <icerogue> i beleive i set courier up to know that it is part of the domain
[04:15] <icerogue> not sure though
[04:16] <HostingGeek> does logrotate support the usage of wildcard in its config?
[04:17] <funkyhat> icerogue: if you need help setting up your DNS you might find this article useful (although it's semi-specific to 34sp.com)
[04:17] <funkyhat> http://support.34sp.com/tutorials/zoneedit/zoneedit.html
[04:17] <icerogue> i thought i needed to change localhost
[04:19] <gt500> :(
[04:22] <henkie> hello all
[04:22] <funkyhat> hi
[04:22] <henkie> i've got a question... where can i get drivers to see my ntfs hard discs??
[04:22] <cetanhota> how can I stop the synaptics reset failed error I get when my laptop boots?
[04:22] <dud> g'morning folks! :O
[04:22] <funkyhat> morning dud
[04:22] <dud> how are we...?
[04:23] <henkie> is it possible to read my ntfs hard discs in ubuntu?? and how if it is?? :P
[04:23] <Guardiann> hello henkie, dud
[04:24] <henkie> hello guardiann
[04:24] <gt500> henkie , look @ synaptics :/
[04:24] <henkie> ok....
[04:24] <gt500> brb , installing ubuntu ^_^
[04:24] <gt500> again :p
[04:25] <gt500> i allready have it on several pc's :D
[04:25] <MartijnZ> LoL, nice
[04:25] <gt500> ^_^
[04:25] <gt500> now , i'm participating to become a maintainer :)
[04:25] <gt500> gstreamer 8)
[04:26] <larsrohdin> is there anyway to use cedega without subscribing to transgaming?
[04:26] <no0tic> how can I edit ubuntu wiki, once logged in?
[04:27] <gt500> no0tic , look @ the top ...
[04:27] <no0tic> ;)
[04:28] <topyli> looking at this hoary upgrade list of packages, it looks like xserver-xfree86 won't be removed?
[04:28] <gt500> topyli n why should it be removed ?
[04:28] <gt500> n = ,
[04:29] <topyli> gt500: i thought it would be replaced by another package, numbered 6.8.x
[04:30] <daniels> topyli: if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, xserver-xorg will be automatically installed
[04:30] <topyli> ahh... but i don't. i'll select it
[04:31] <topyli> no! this will remove lyx, pybliographer: my tools!
[04:31] <gt500> update it onyou're own ..
[04:31] <gt500> brb
[04:31] <topyli> let's see what updating x-window-system-core does
[04:32] <topyli> yes. xserver-xorg will be installed
[04:32] <lightcap> anyone have a backup solution of choice?  I'm evaluating those that I can find...so far backupPC, AMANDA and bacula
[04:33] <topyli> looks good. only python seems to be in a sort of transition
[04:35] <HostingGeek> that bot has been hitting even channel
[04:35] <j^> does someone else have problems with python xml.dom.minidom.parse not working in hoary?
[04:35] <fox-paul> does anybody know why when i install the fglrx drivers, i dont get the fglrx kernel module for my running kernel? (on hoary)
[04:36] <HostingGeek> channel ops limit the ammount of user that can enter per 20 when don't want a bot attack
[04:36] <Guardiann> ??? what bot ??
[04:38] <HostingGeek> Guardiann: no0tic
[04:38] <HostingGeek> seem like take care of
[04:39] <snowblink> hi - have just installed Warty. I suppose this is a GNOME question: How can I make a window fill vertically or horizontally (a la KDE)?
[04:39] <Guardiann> no0tic> how can I edit ubuntu wiki, once logged in? isnt a bot
[04:39] <zAo^^> lo all. Is the 'gnome-desktop-eviroment' needed?
[04:40] <gt500> yes
[04:40] <zAo^^> yes to? :)
[04:41] <daniels> HostingGeek: dude, no0tic is not a bot.  i know this because i was talking to him just before.
[04:41] <daniels> HostingGeek: we can run the channel; if i can see one comment from one person, i can pretty clearly see a bot attack, ok?
[04:41] <Guardiann> :)
[04:42] <nyxx> there isn't a cd burning program in the livecd is there?
[04:42] <gt500> nyxx :/ there is ...
[04:42] <HostingGeek> daniels: well say that in every channel i am in besides one
[04:43] <fox-paul> does anybody know why when i install the fglrx drivers, i dont get the fglrx kernel module for my running kernel? (on hoary)
[04:43] <nyxx> gt500, commandline only? I didn't see it in the menus so I didn't know there was one :(
[04:43] <daniels> HostingGeek: i'm sure that most channel ops have a good idea of how to run their channel
[04:44] <daniels> fox-paul: you need linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:44] <HostingGeek> daniels: i was saying to limit the number of x people per y second
[04:44] <fox-paul> daniels,  i installed that then reinstalled the fglrx stuff, but still no luck.(though i can't install the dummy packages for some reason)
[04:45] <gt500> nyxx , look @ cd burner ;)
[04:45] <gt500> brb
[04:46] <zAo^^> how is the Gnome development enviroment called?
[04:46] <AndyFitz> gnu network object model environment
[04:46] <AndyFitz> anjuta ?
[04:47] <daniels> HostingGeek: i know.
[04:47] <HostingGeek> daniels: so why not just in case of a bot attack
[04:47] <daniels> fox-paul: you don't want to even try to install fglrx-driver; just install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:47] <daniels> fox-paul: are you sure the radeon model still isn't inserted?
[04:48] <daniels> HostingGeek: because it involves running a bot, which is pointless.  bot attacks tend to be network-wide, in which case the network ops find out and act very quickly, and g-line (or kick from outside the channel) the bots in question.
[04:48] <daniels> HostingGeek: (i used to be an opn oper)
[04:48] <HostingGeek> daniels: no its a cahnnel mode
[04:49] <fox-paul> daniels, i've removed the fglrx-drivers(synaptic said it was broken) and now i've just got fglrx-kernel-source, xorg-driver-fglrx and xorg-driver-fglrx-dev
[04:49] <HostingGeek> daniels: read the dancer docs
[04:49] <HostingGeek> daniels: ask in #freenode
[04:49] <dsl638> what sound system does ubuntu use?
[04:49] <paulproteus> dsl638: esd (enlightenment sound daemon)
[04:49] <paulproteus> dsl638: This is slated to be replaced by polypaudio in Hoary.
[04:49] <daniels> fox-paul: have you got linux-restricted-modules for your kernel installed?
[04:50] <fox-paul> daniels, yeah. doing "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" give me: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-2-686-smp is already the newest version.
[04:50] <daniels> fox-paul: weird.  have you got the fglrx module inserted?
[04:50] <daniels> HostingGeek: interesting, but still don't see the point
[04:50] <fox-paul> daniels, doing sudo modprobe fglrx gives:FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[04:51] <daniels> fox-paul: oh, unconfigured, I think
[04:51] <daniels> fox-paul: run sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[04:51] <HostingGeek> DagaZ: look every other channels do it
[04:51] <HostingGeek> * daniels
[04:51] <fox-paul> daniels, i'll give it a go...
[04:51] <daniels> HostingGeek: this one doesn't
[04:51] <Guardiann> HostingGeek relax
[04:51] <HostingGeek> daniels: satffer are not here 24x7
[04:52] <fox-paul> daniels, no output from that command.
[04:52] <HostingGeek> Guardiann: can't my back is acking
[04:52] <Guardiann> maybe that would help it
[04:52] <daniels> fox-paul: weird
[04:52] <node> HostingGeek, give it a rest, obviously daniels doesn't wanna.
[04:52] <paulproteus> dsl638: What sound card do you hav?
[04:52] <Guardiann> this channel seems to work fine
[04:52] <paulproteus> have, rather.
[04:53] <fox-paul> daniels, yeah, i've been kicking myself since last night. i cant figure it out
[04:53] <dsl638> i have an intel 8x
[04:53] <daniels> fox-paul: is running sudo depmod -ae of any use?
[04:53] <daniels> fox-paul: or possibly sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:53] <dsl638> mandrake 10.1 uses i810_audio as the module
[04:53] <dsl638> and the sound works with no problem
[04:53] <fox-paul> daniels, no output from the depmod command, i'll try reinstalling the restricted mods
[04:54] <HostingGeek> daniels: fact is staffer are not here 24x7 bot attack any channel they can this one is open for them
[04:54] <paulproteus> dsl638: What have you tried to make sound work?
[04:54] <node> sigh
[04:54] <daniels> fox-paul: depmod shouldn't give you any output -- possibly try sudo modprobe fglrx now
[04:54] <dsl638> i came across the unofficial ubuntu guide and ran that command
[04:54] <Guardiann> dsl638 having sound problems?
[04:54] <fox-paul> daniels, yes!
[04:54] <dsl638> then I tried to do 'modprobe i810_audio'
[04:54] <lizardking> hola
[04:55] <fox-paul> daniels, the module is loaded now. phew
[04:55] <lizardking> I have a problem with NAUTILUS
[04:55] <kebac_> i am having grub problems... grub says, loading stage 1.5 and then error 18
[04:55] <lizardking> someone for me?
[04:55] <topyli> lizardking: impossible. nautilus is perfect
[04:55] <funkyhat> what do i need to do to apt-get apache (latest version)?
[04:56] <paulproteus> dsl638: First thing, do
[04:56] <paulproteus> $ sudo rmmod i810_audio
[04:56] <funkyhat> will apt-get install apache work?
[04:56] <topyli> funkyhat: look for apache2 packages
[04:56] <funkyhat> how do i search for packages in apt-get?
[04:56] <funkyhat> i can't find it in help :(
[04:56] <paulproteus> funkyhat: apt-cache search
[04:56] <funkyhat> ok
[04:56] <paulproteus> or search using Synaptic, which is much easier.
[04:57] <henkie> how can i install a deb file that's locked for users??
[04:57] <funkyhat> except i don't have gnome
[04:57] <fox-paul> daniels, thanks for the help. gonna try it out now :)
[04:57] <funkyhat> henkie, install it using sudo before the command
[04:57] <dsl638> k
[04:57] <lizardking> i have upgrated nautilus and now i cannot see my launcher
[04:57] <henkie> yes.. but then it says it's locked by another process
[04:57] <paulproteus> dsl638: Now try:
[04:58] <paulproteus> $ sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[04:58] <daniels> foxcool
[04:58] <dsl638> I've seen that one before
[04:58] <topyli> lizardking: which launcher is that?
[04:58] <lizardking> I have reinstalled Nautilus and now my launcher in "Applications" are not there.
[04:58] <lizardking> if I make nautilus applications:/// I saw my launcher but the system doesn't want to display in the bar.How can I do?
[04:58] <paulproteus> dsl638: That's the ALSA driver.  The one you had before was the OSS driver.
[04:58] <lizardking> simple launcher icons
[04:58] <Guardiann> dsl638 what kind of sound problems are you having
[04:58] <lizardking> the default launcher icons are there. mine not :(
[04:59] <dsl638> it says no mixer, element found
[04:59] <paulproteus> lizardking: The bar along with "Applications", "Computer", firefox icon, Evolution icon, etc?
[04:59] <paulproteus> dsl638: *What* says that?
[04:59] <capra> Hi
[04:59] <lizardking> yes
[04:59] <lizardking> that bar
[04:59] <Guardiann> you running hoary
[04:59] <topyli> lizardking: oh, dunno. perhaps they got lost in the upgrade. can you still see them in nautilus?
[04:59] <dsl638> the volumen mixer up at the right side of Gnome desktop
[04:59] <paulproteus> dsl638: Okay.  Now do:
[04:59] <lizardking> in Applications i cannot find my launcher even thery are in nautilus applications///
[04:59] <Guardiann> dsl638 are you running hoary
[04:59] <dsl638> warty
[05:00] <paulproteus> $ sudo modprobe snd-mixer-oss
[05:00] <topyli> lizardking: try and restart the panel: 'killall gnome-panel'
[05:00] <capra> anyone succeded in removing ipv6 module?
[05:00] <lizardking> yes they are always in nautilus applications///
[05:00] <lizardking> mhh ok
[05:00] <paulproteus> lizardking: Try my advice first, please.
[05:00] <lizardking> nothing
[05:00] <lizardking> not works
[05:00] <dsl638> ok
[05:01] <topyli> lizardking: hmm. is this on warty
[05:01] <paulproteus> Any change in the mixer applet, dsl638?
[05:01] <funkyhat> meh.... help with which package to install :S
[05:01] <lizardking> The strange thing is that they are in nautilus applications:/// bye terminal
[05:01] <lizardking> yes
[05:01] <dsl638> paulproteus need to run this on my box @ home
[05:01] <lizardking> warty
[05:02] <funkyhat> i need apache with php, which packages do i need to install?
[05:02] <dsl638> i'm at work, but I'll check it later on, thanks for your help
[05:02] <luislx> funkyhat i can help
[05:02] <paulproteus> dsl638: Okay.  Best of luck.
[05:02] <topyli> lizardking: weird. works here. you have encountered a mysterious bug :)
[05:02] <funkyhat> ok, i've just done apt-cache search apache2
[05:03] <funkyhat> which has returned a load of packages
[05:03] <lizardking> uff
[05:03] <luislx> sorry by my english, but isn't my first languaje
[05:03] <luislx> language jeje
[05:03] <topyli> funkyhat: yes, you see tons of extra modules for it too. make your pick :)
[05:03] <luislx> ok let's start
[05:03] <Falstius> jeje?  must be spanish :)
[05:03] <luislx> ajajjaja that's correct
[05:03] <pepesan> hi all
[05:04] <lizardking> not work because if i make NEW launcher  this it is not displayed :(
[05:04] <luislx> for my own distro i used www.ubuntuguide.org, it's for newbies
[05:04] <funkyhat> does apt check dependencies?
[05:04] <lizardking> but it is created in  nautilus applications:///
[05:04] <zenwhen> hi
[05:05] <luislx> yes
[05:05] <fox-paul> daniels, no luck i'm afraid. i've got the module loaded an all, but starting X with the fglrx driver gives me a blank screen
[05:05] <luislx> hey, first open the page please
[05:05] <daniels> fox-paul: lucky you, I suppose
[05:05] <luislx> you need to add internet repositories to your system
[05:05] <funkyhat> because if it does i'll just install the php package and be lazy :P
[05:05] <daniels> fox-paul: unfortunately there's nought I can do, since it's binary-only and all
[05:05] <topyli> lizardking: then the gnome menu is b0rken. are you up to date?
[05:05] <luislx> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver this one is for apache
[05:05] <fox-paul> hmmm, do you think they dropped support for my card or something?
[05:06] <topyli> funkyhat: that's how i always do things :)
[05:06] <zAo^^> how can I easyly create gnome tools/small apps?
[05:06] <nyxx> bleh, I forgot the livecd was running in my cdrw drive.. :/ is it possible to install any packages in ramdisk or attached usb hdd in a livecd?
[05:06] <luislx> instructions for dummies as me jajajaj
[05:06] <setite> why wont vmware install!
[05:06] <lizardking> yes
[05:06] <funkyhat> luislx: i'm using apt-get
[05:06] <pepesan> im lookin for the channel for the ppc port someone know it?
[05:06] <lizardking> now i try to do upgrade
[05:06] <lizardking> wait here
[05:06] <setite> it installs but i cant run it because of missing database files
[05:06] <setite> Unable to find the database file (/etc/vmware/locations)
[05:06] <luislx> ok the use apt-get install apache2
[05:07] <lizardking> 5 min at the end of upgrade
[05:07] <topyli> luislx: seems a bit like if you follow the guide you won't learn much. like what the hell all these commands actually are :)
[05:07] <luislx> then
[05:07] <luislx> $ sudo apt-get install php4
[05:07] <luislx> $ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[05:07] <luislx> $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[05:07] <luislx> $ sudo gedit /var/www/testphp.php
[05:07] <icerogue> sudo su is my friend
[05:07] <luislx> ajajja that's 'cos i used to be mandrake friend jeje
[05:08] <luislx> i'm learning again all this stuff jeje
[05:08] <crypticreign> seems my touchpad is really slow all of a sudden
[05:08] <setite> someone help me install vmware
[05:08] <topyli> luislx: oh yes, drakwizard. mandrake is cool
[05:08] <luislx> but that guide is acctually cool, makes the change easy as possible
[05:09] <funkyhat> i get D: Couldn't find package php4
[05:09] <funkyhat> *E: Couldn't...
[05:09] <luislx> but the main reason for being here is 'cos I need help with mi All-in-one printer, lexmark p3150
[05:10] <luislx> that's 'cos you haven't add online repositories
[05:10] <funkyhat> how do i do that?
[05:10] <luislx> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:11] <trey3> luislx, umm... php4 is in Ubuntu...
[05:11] <topyli> luislx: one of them printer-scanner-copiers?
[05:11] <trey3> I see:
[05:11] <luislx> yes topyli
[05:11] <topyli> and lexmark too. good luck :)
[05:11] <luislx> ajajajaj :P buuuuu jajjaj
[05:11] <topyli> heh
[05:12] <trey3> php4-cgi php4-cli php4-common php4-dev
[05:12] <luislx> that's the packages :P
[05:12] <luislx> so, what can I do?
[05:12] <topyli> luislx: see what they say about the printer at linuxprinting.org. you might get it to print at least
[05:12] <Josip> for installing a LAMP(P) configuration , I would highly recomment XAMPP
[05:12] <luislx> other friends say that i should burn the printer and get a new one jajajaaj
[05:14] <trey3> Only unstable will be used  :/
[05:14] <mousematt> is it normal for warty to use both the OSS and ALSA mixer controls in gnome volume control?
[05:14] <Josip> I'm expiriencing two problems
[05:15] <crypticreign> mousematt: i noticed that too!
[05:15] <Josip> the first one : when I try to play a file in bmp/xmms the application freezes
[05:15] <mousematt> crypticreign: do either of them work?
[05:15] <crypticreign> mousematt: i dont think it is
[05:15] <Josip> the second one : I can play with rhythmbox, but the sound and all system's sounds too are not clear
[05:15] <mousematt> have u got a VIA soundcard?
[05:15] <Josip> they're like ... don't know how to describe
[05:15] <calamari> mousematt: I have both as well
[05:15] <Josip> it's on board
[05:15] <Josip> not quite sure
[05:15] <topyli> luislx: you can give it to someone who has windows, trade it for real hardware or something
[05:16] <mousematt> calamari: does the volume control work?
[05:16] <Josip> it's not a hardware problem, since it's playing well on windows
[05:16] <calamari> Turtle Beach Montego card here
[05:16] <trey3> Josip, lspci
[05:16] <crypticreign> mousematt: yes.. it seems tho that my actual sound card(alsa) listed doesnt produce 100% volume, just the other sound card listed (oss) can prdouce 100% volume, its wierd
[05:16] <calamari> mousematt: the oss one yes.. haven't tried alsa one.. one sec and I will
[05:16] <trey3> Josip, (to answer mousematt's question)
[05:16] <calamari> mousematt: both controls work
[05:16] <Josip> I didn't have this problem since I added hoary's repo and done apt-get upgrade , then I couldn't start gnome, so i deleleted the reppo, uncommented the old ones and apt-get upgraded again
[05:16] <mousematt> crypticreign: i only have OSS but neither really seems to control the volume levels in apps like totem
[05:17] <Josip> SiS, not VIA
[05:17] <luislx> yea, but I really love my printer, in windows works perfectly. then I think if ubuntu is the only distro thats recognize my wireless card easily, there's a chance for print my paperworks here too :P
[05:17] <knghtbrd> okay, I'm liking XFCE4
[05:17] <Josip> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  735 Host (rev 01)
[05:17] <Josip> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
[05:17] <topyli> so ummm... if irdadump shows traffic on the computer side, then my irda communication problem might be located in userland?
[05:18] <mousematt> ok Josip. Both your card and mine are onboard AC'97 cards
[05:18] <knghtbrd> it is much zippier on the Celeron than Gnome (which is important because it's hard to call Gnome "zippy" on the Celeron by any stretch of the imagination, the Celeron is a piece of crap!)
[05:18] <Josip> yes, AC '97
[05:18] <Josip> I remember now ;-)
[05:18] <iMeXdiAC> i'd like to limit my bandwith what should i use ?
[05:18] <lizardking> i have tried to upgrade and nothing
[05:18] <lizardking> My launcher aren't there
[05:19] <mousematt> does anyone here have an onboard VIA soundcard and two volume controls - one ALSA one OSS - neither of which seems to be working
[05:19] <mousematt> or VIA EPIA box
[05:19] <topyli> knghtbrd: well, xfce is lean for sure
[05:19] <trey3> mousematt, ensure only 'snd-via82xx' is loaded... and not 'via82xx'
[05:20] <knghtbrd> topyli: exactly
[05:20] <trey3> mousematt, (ie... the alsa module only... not the oss)
[05:20] <Josip> what shall I do ?
[05:20] <topyli> knghtbrd: try fvwm :)
[05:20] <knghtbrd> topyli: well, as lean as it can get with GTK2  ;)
[05:20] <funkyhat> which os are you installing vmware on?
[05:20] <funkyhat> *ignore that*
[05:20] <knghtbrd> hate fvwm, that's why I tried XFCE
[05:20] <trey3> Josip, 1st problem... you have codec installed?  not sure on 2nd though...
[05:21] <Josip> yes
[05:21] <knghtbrd> on such systems I tend to use wmaker
[05:21] <mousematt> trey3: how do i do that in ubuntu (would have used Mandrake Control Centre in the past)
[05:21] <Josip> gstreamer with mad and most of the plugins
[05:21] <knghtbrd> (I'm a Mac user, sosumi!)
[05:21] <trey3> mousematt, lsmod ... see if both are there... if both are 'rmmod via82xx'
[05:22] <lizardking> if someone can hepl me with nautilus laucnher please read this
[05:22] <lizardking> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11782
[05:22] <trey3> mousematt, 'sudo' infont of second command
[05:22] <mousematt> trey3: how do i make my changes permanent? *thankyou for your help btw*
[05:22] <knghtbrd> I mean, the Celeron is a 400MHz system, it's not that pathetic.
[05:23] <knghtbrd> it just doesn't have much RAM or disk or spare CPU once you start talking web browser
[05:23] <trey3> mousematt, you can add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist ...
[05:23] <trey3> mousematt, that way it won't load at boot...
[05:23] <topyli> knghtbrd: the cpu is irrelevant on a desktop, ram is what counts. the cpu is idle mostly
[05:24] <Guardiann> trey3 in order to run xine i need to type ln -s hdc /dev/dvd is there a way to load that at boot
[05:24] <mousematt> thankyou trey3
[05:24] <iMeXdiAC> anyone :) .. i'd like to limit my bandwith what should i use ?
[05:24] <trey3> Guardiann, hmm... not sure why it wouldn't stay?
[05:25] <Guardiann> hmmm yeah kinda strange
[05:27] <Casanova> hello... i am not able to configure my ADSL modem in ubuntu... is there some way that i can download the packages in windows and install it in ubuntu?
[05:27] <kakashi> have some problem with my .avi codec in ubuntu .... pls HELP
[05:28] <kakashi> using TOTEM player
[05:28] <kakashi> have some problem with my .avi codec in ubuntu .... pls HELP
[05:28] <kakashi> using TOTEM player
[05:28] <kakashi> have some problem with my .avi codec in ubuntu .... pls HELP
[05:28] <kakashi> using TOTEM player
[05:28] <kakashi> have some problem with my .avi codec in ubuntu .... pls HELP
[05:28] <kakashi> using TOTEM player
[05:28] <topyli> kakashi: right right
[05:28] <kakashi> ok
[05:29] <Guardiann> kakashi lol once is enough
[05:29] <kakashi> so music is playing well but there is simply no video
[05:29] <kakashi> what shall
[05:29] <funkyhat> $ sudo gedit /var/www/testphp.php isn't much good when i don't have gnome......
[05:29] <kakashi> ok
[05:29] <trey3> funkyhat, nano is pretty easy to understand...
[05:29] <topyli> kakashi: do you actually have the codec?
[05:29] <Guardiann> have you looked at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:30] <funkyhat> ooh yep, looks pretty good :)
[05:30] <Casanova> does anybody know a way to get updates done offline?
[05:30] <trey3> Casanova, umm... install the new version?
[05:31] <EvolutionR> I live in Malaysia, is there any download mirror to get the ubuntu realease?
[05:31] <kakashi> topyli: just downloaded ubuntu and try to make it going well ... isn't there any standard codec for ubuntu ... if not where to download it
[05:31] <trey3> EvolutionR, the main one isn't fast enough?
[05:31] <Casanova> trey3, i am on a bad connection... downloading the latest versio n each time is impossible
[05:31] <EvolutionR> trey3: their slow....some times drop connection
[05:31] <Guardiann> kakashi look in www.ubuntuguide.org  it shows you there
[05:32] <Casanova> trey3, also... i want to download the w32codecs.. how do i do it....my modem is not working in ubuntu
[05:32] <topyli> kakashi: by default you don't have the proprietary formats. i'll look up a link
[05:32] <trey3> Casanova, you could... say... once a month? either way... just install newer version when you need it...
[05:32] <kakashi> topyli: OK thanks
[05:32] <EvolutionR> What's apps bundle on new ubuntu ???
[05:32] <Casanova> trey3, what abt the codecs?
[05:33] <trey3> Casanova, download on this machine... and put on a disc?
[05:33] <Casanova> trey3, thats the poitn.... what do i download? and from where?
[05:34] <topyli> kakashi: this is it: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:34] <netmonk> does anyone have an idea what can I do with flash plugin on iBook G3
[05:34] <trey3> Casanova, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/
[05:34] <scizzo> Casanova: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <trey3> scizzo, he can't do it that way... enless you know of an apt port to winblows?
[05:35] <kakashi> topyli: thank u very much
[05:35] <crypticreign> my mouse is slow now everytime gnome is booted into.. seems fine in gdm
[05:35] <EvolutionR> what's in ubuntu kde or gnome and what version?
[05:35] <Casanova> trey3, so i download the debian files and go to ubuntu and install?
[05:35] <trey3> EvolutionR, there are over 15,000, you want me to list them all?  :/
[05:36] <trey3> Casanova, yes
[05:36] <Casanova> trey3, i am new to linux... can you give me the exact sytax of how to install a paxkage?
[05:36] <crypticreign> i changed the mouse sensitivy.. one is too slow, the next one up is way to fast
[05:36] <crypticreign> *too
[05:36] <EvolutionR> trey3: no no, can you show me the website that list?
[05:36] <trey3> Casanova, dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:36] <Riddell> EvolutionR: gnome is on the disk, kde in the repository, KDE 3.2 in warty, KDE 3.3 in hoary, gnome 2.8 in warty, gnome 1.9 in hoary
[05:37] <scizzo> trey3: it was ment for him to follow the ftp link
[05:37] <EvolutionR> Riddell: ok
[05:37] <trey3> EvolutionR, there isn't one... there is apparently work in progress for creating a packages.debian.org-like site for Ubuntu though...
[05:37] <scizzo> Riddell: 1.9 ? ;)
[05:37] <Casanova> trey3, where can i download the codecs to play MP3 in ubntu? they are not there in the ftp link you gave me... i mean the w32codecs are not there
[05:37] <Riddell> scizzo: 2.9 rather
[05:37] <scizzo> Riddell: hehe
[05:38] <EvolutionR> trey3: : )
[05:38] <EvolutionR> I got to find a link to download it ubuntu
[05:38] <EvolutionR> too bad too few mirrors available
[05:38] <EvolutionR> they should include Asia...
[05:39] <knghtbrd> topyli: My CPUs don't often idle, but then I put them to work  ;)
[05:40] <topyli> knghtbrd: sure, you can always figure out something for them to do
[05:40] <Casanova> does anybody know where i can download the debian package of w32codecs???
[05:40] <trey3> Casanova, trying to get you a link... taking a while to load the site  :/
[05:41] <Casanova> trey3, sorry and thank you
[05:41] <trey3> Casanova, I just gave you that link!!
[05:41] <Casanova> trey3, what?
[05:41] <trey3> Where to get w32codecs... I _just_ told you!!!
[05:41] <Casanova> trey3, not there in ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/
[05:42] <Casanova> there is no single package called w32codecs
[05:42] <Casanova> do i have download 'em as separate packages only?
[05:44] <topyli> Casanova: i suggest you just install the w32codecs package
[05:44] <occy> heh, I've got a P200 laptop that someone gave me... and am trying to think what might be the best "light-weight" distro to stick on it.   Is there a way I can use Ubuntu on it without installing gnome?   (doing a light-weight install that is?)
[05:44] <EvolutionR> Casanova: try it here http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[05:44] <EvolutionR> it's rpm package
[05:44] <Casanova> topyli, where can i get the package?
[05:45] <scizzo> occy: you could do a custom install
[05:45] <EvolutionR> Casanova: try it here http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[05:45] <occy> scizzo: is that an option at boot?
[05:45] <Casanova> EvolutionR, will converting using alien work?
[05:45] <topyli> Casanova: from Christian Marillat's repository like you were told
[05:45] <hongyihu> I just switched over to Ubuntu a few weeks ago.  Pretty nice.  The only big problem I've had is that it sometimes hangs at "Loading Modules" when I'm trying to boot it.  This is on the <IP_ADDRESS>-4-386 kernel.  I'm also using ndiswrapper to get wlan0 working.  I wonder that if that's related.  (This is on a Dell Inspiron 600M).  If I boot into "recovery" mode, it seems to work fine most of the time.
[05:45] <EvolutionR> Casanova: what distro u use?
[05:45] <Casanova> ubuntu
[05:46] <EvolutionR> well give it a go can try it
[05:46] <scizzo> occy: yes
[05:47] <occy> k
[05:47] <trey3> Casanova, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/   <-- has w32codecs (unstable Packages.gz points here...)
[05:47] <scizzo> occy: maybe it is called expert or something
[05:47] <Casanova> EvolutionR, does xine come with the codecs?
[05:47] <scizzo> occy: you can try it... not sure how much will be installed...
[05:47] <trey3> Casanova, no it doesn't
[05:48] <EvolutionR> Casanova: what I suggest is you download the xine-lib.rpm, xine-ui.
[05:48] <EvolutionR> Casanova: I think xine comes with little codecs...not many
[05:48] <nyxx> this is probably a futile question but is there any way at all to get the livecd to play mp3/divx files?
[05:48] <Casanova> EvolutionR, thanx.... trey3 got me the w32codecs package anyway
[05:49] <|QuaD-> nyxx: no.... those decoder programs/codecs were not included for possible copyright reasons
[05:49] <EvolutionR> Casanova: download the w32codecs .rpm I tried that b4 it worked...on realplayer , divx, quicktime
[05:49] <EvolutionR> Casanova: : )
[05:49] <trey3> Casanova, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins0.8/   <-- the one stating 'mad' is for mp3
[05:50] <Xen> hi need help install netgear ma101
[05:50] <|QuaD-> Xen: is that usb?
[05:50] <Xen> yes
[05:51] <|QuaD-> Xen: did you try just plugging it in and rebooting?
[05:51] <nyxx> well poo :( I've been doing some reading and guess even if I sacrifice some data on a spare hdd to the ubuntu gods I can't install from the live cd, is that correct?
[05:51] <Casanova> thank your trey3 and EvolutionR .... i think this will do the job
[05:51] <Xen> oh i ll just try that
[05:51] <trey3> Casanova, :)
[05:52] <trey3> Casanova, you really ought to be trying to get network access before watching pr0n though   :P
[05:52] <|QuaD-> nyxx: you can't install from liveCD(i don't believe) why not do the harddrive install though?
[05:52] <hongyihu> no ideas on the hanging on "Loading Modules"?
[05:52] <Casanova> trey3, haha.... i have a USB ADSL modem... the driver is giving me a hard time configuring in ubuntu
[05:52] <|QuaD-> nyxx: i know gnoppix is based on ubuntu now, you might want to check that out, it *MIGHT* allow mp3 / DiVX playback
[05:53] <agenteo> someone has installed the dictionaries in ubuntu? I need to get a list of words but I can't figure out where to find the data I've downloaded
[05:53] <nyxx> I didn't burn a copy of that cd and my main computer is completely out of action right now so no new cds can be burned for a few days
[05:53] <trey3> Casanova, 'lspci' what does it say about your nic?
[05:53] <Casanova> wat?
[05:53] <|QuaD-> nyxx: you can burn the cd from the live cd
[05:53] <Josip> I'm gonna kill somebody
[05:53] <trey3> |QuaD-, not "based on" ... *IS*
[05:53] <Casanova> trey3, wat?
[05:53] <Josip> my sound suXxX
[05:53] <|QuaD-> trey3: its not modified at all?
[05:54] <Josip> any troubleshooting ? ;-)
[05:54] <Josip> AC'97
[05:54] <|QuaD-> Josip: i am not helping you if you threaten to kill me
[05:54] <Josip> |QuaD-, you're not in my near , so don't be afraid ;-)
[05:54] <|QuaD-> Josip: how do you know? i could be your neighbor!
[05:54] <topyli> Josip: the chip is trouble. get a $15 sound blaster
[05:55] <Josip> .bu.edu
[05:55] <Josip> I'm from Macedonia
[05:55] <trey3> Casanova, its plugged in via a nic right (cuz modems have to be attached somehow *nods*) ... 'lspci | grep Ethernet'
[05:55] <Josip> well ... everything works fine on Windows
[05:55] <Josip> *cough*
[05:55] <Josip> worked fine on linux too, until i made a downgrade ;-)
[05:55] <|QuaD-> Josip: i am actually ssh'ing in :) i am not at this computer
[05:55] <Casanova> trey3, it is connected to the USB port.... not the ethernet card
[05:55] <|QuaD-> Josip: i AM a mile away from the machine i am on
[05:55] <Josip> supposed to be an upgrade, added hoary's repo etc.
[05:55] <topyli> Josip: well it should work on windows. it's supported there
[05:56] <trey3> Josip, lspci | grep Audio ... state EXACTLY what it says...
[05:56] <|QuaD-> Josip: it isn't working with hoary but worked with warty?
[05:56] <icerogue> okay i just got a domain name, how would you suggest going about using dynamicdns?
[05:56] <Josip> it gives NOTHING
[05:56] <trey3> Casanova, bah... what kinda modem is it?
[05:56] <nyxx> |QuaD-, will it let me use the drive it's in somehow or will I have to move my other burner over? I also still need to sacrifice some data to get room to download the image to, so I'll need to play with that some too. can you format/partition or otherwise get permissions on a drive in the livecd?
[05:56] <topyli> icerogue: go to dyndns.org and follow the instructions :)
[05:56] <|QuaD-> icerogue: i have my box using a no-ip address, and a nameserver that points to this no-ip address
[05:56] <trey3> Josip, grep audio instead?  if its not listed at all... thats bad...
[05:56] <Casanova> it has the GlobeSpan chipset.... the modem is Teragate
[05:56] <Casanova> trey3,  it has the GlobeSpan chipset.... the modem is Teragate
[05:57] <Josip> but note on this line which is ouyputted by <lspci>
[05:57] <Josip> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[05:57] <Josip> there isn't any Audio line
[05:57] <Xen> iQuad i have warty i tried to reboot but ma101 does not show in wireless peripherals
[05:57] <|QuaD-> nyxx: yes to all of those (i believe)
[05:58] <|QuaD-> Xen: do you have the drivers installed?
[05:58] <icerogue> is it possible to have a cron job access a website?
[05:58] <Josip> icerogue, yep I thikn
[05:58] <Josip> think*
[05:59] <Xen> Quad nope i need help installing those drivers
[05:59] <trey3> Josip, thats what I wanted you to paste... but I don't understand... where are you getting AC 97 from that?
[05:59] <|QuaD-> icerogue: yes.... there is a way you can do that in links... or with php
[05:59] <Josip> I've opened the box many times ;)
[05:59] <|QuaD-> Xen: do you know the chipset
[05:59] <Josip> the sound isn't clear
[05:59] <Josip> it's like . hmm ..
[06:00] <Xen> iquad no i gues atmel drivers works read it somewhere
[06:00] <Josip> and when I load songs into xmms/bmp and try to load them the player just *sigh* crushes
[06:00] <|QuaD-> Xen: i don't think its the atmel drivers, i believe its the prism2 drivers, right?
[06:00] <Josip> brb
[06:01] <Xen> iquad i ll look on the net hold on
[06:01] <trey3> Josip, I've never seen any player crash due to not having the drivers loaded... only on codec issues...
[06:01] <nyxx> 1 more question then I'll go back to reading/playing.. on the livecd desktop is the ramdisk item known to be broken? doesn't work for me and in the properties everything is "unknown" while there's information in the properties of the cdrom and sda1 things
[06:01] <stolidad> how do I tell apt-get to use a http proxy?
[06:01] <Guardiann> i was having a similar problem to josip
[06:02] <Guardiann> what i discovered was that the kernel and my on board modem were not liking each other
[06:02] <Xen> iquad the ma101driver is at76c503a
[06:02] <|QuaD-> Xen: this is the usb dongle?
[06:03] <Xen> iquad : it is a bit bigger with a usb cable
[06:04] <|QuaD-> Xen: oh, i thought it was a different one, no idea how to install that, did you find the driver on the net?
[06:04] <payal> hi all
[06:05] <Guardiann> hello
[06:05] <|QuaD-> Xen: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto/view?searchterm=wlan
[06:06] <payal> when I try to access my doc files in my other machine -> sun-test/d/my documents/resu/french/design in oct/desi.doc
[06:06] <payal> I get an access error which says the file does not exist
[06:07] <payal> but the file does exist and I can access the same with xandros
[06:07] <payal> what is wrong?
[06:07] <Josip> same thing again
[06:09] <seb128> hidde2: ?
[06:10] <payal> any ideas?
[06:10] <Josip> going to burn my audio card
[06:10] <Josip> with the mobo togother
[06:12] <Josip> the sound sounds like .. pitched
[06:15] <basse> yo
[06:21] <mjk> hi all
[06:22] <Guardiann> hello
[06:22] <|QuaD-> mjk: hi
[06:22] <icerogue> whats the name of the text based browser?
[06:23] <hidde> lynx links
[06:23] <|QuaD-> links, lynx, there are a few
[06:23] <|QuaD-> you can use telnet as a text based browser
[06:23] <|QuaD-> thats always fun
[06:24] <bj_> hello hello.
[06:24] <icerogue> i just need it to be able to acces a web address i give it once every so manny hours
[06:24] <bj_> anyone know how to make a gnome-panel transparent? the whole thingthough
[06:24] <|QuaD-> icerogue: i am doing something like that currently with out a browser
[06:24] <Josip> where can I find a .deb package for AC'97 drivers ?
[06:25] <Serengeti> bj_ I quess you have to wait for gnome 2.10 :)
[06:25] <|QuaD-> icerogue: try something like this:  php -r "include('http://website')"
[06:25] <bj_> but i hear its possible in 2.9.4
[06:25] <icerogue> |QuaD-: thanks
[06:26] <|QuaD-> icerogue: thats what you want to do right/
[06:26] <|QuaD-> icerogue: i use it to keep track of my ip
[06:26] <icerogue> |QuaD-: i am going to use it to update the dns
[06:26] <Serengeti> bj_ yeah there's even a screenshot
[06:26] <|QuaD-> icerogue: want an easier way to do that?
[06:27] <bj_> Serengeti, yup
[06:27] <Serengeti> bj_ http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-10/
[06:27] <icerogue> QuaD-: sure
[06:27] <Kokey> bj_, in panel properties
[06:27] <MrMinit> No operators? =O
[06:27] <Serengeti> bj_ i guess you've seen it already :)
[06:27] <|QuaD-> icerogue: you will run into problems with routers and caching your way
[06:27] <|QuaD-> icerogue: do you know what no-ip is?
[06:27] <icerogue> no i dont
[06:27] <Kokey> http://kokey.gluch.org.mx/blog/images/screenshots/gnome2.9.png <== this my desktop
[06:27] <bj_> Kokey, ony like half of it changes though. applets including menus dont change
[06:28] <|QuaD-> icerogue: it does basically what you want, www.no-ip.com, read that and let me know when you are done
[06:28] <sxd> anyone know where i can download a package of taglib 1.3.1
[06:28] <paradoxmo> any galeon users here?
[06:29] <Guardiann> in order to run xine i must type ln -s hdc /dev/dvd is there a way to load that at bootup
[06:29] <yaaar> word
[06:29] <|QuaD-> word
[06:30] <Serengeti> bj_ i'm not sure but i think you need to have composite extension turned on. but i'm using warty not hoary now so i can't check it
[06:30] <icerogue> |QuaD-: does the program they have work on linux?
[06:30] <sxd> or where i can download any packages for ubuntu? i just changed from mdk and i'm not sure what you use on ubuntu
[06:30] <|QuaD-> icerogue: apt-cache search no-ip :)
[06:31] <|QuaD-> or maybe noip
[06:31] <bj_> Serengeti, yeah i got that on. searching through gconf now
[06:31] <paradoxmo> Guardiann: usually, udev takes care of that
[06:31] <paradoxmo> it should create the link for you
[06:31] <Guardiann> its not tho
[06:32] <maximaus> sxd, have you tweaked your sourced in Synaptic, adding the Universe component.
[06:32] <sxd> ya but the highest version of taglib is 1.1.1 i need 1.3.1
[06:32] <paradoxmo> Guardiann: do you have a link to /etc/udev/udev.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d
[06:32] <paradoxmo> ?
[06:32] <Skwid_> how can i restart my computer on console only, with no X ???
[06:32] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: sudo reboot
[06:32] <Serengeti> bj_ good luck
[06:33] <Guardiann> let me check
[06:33] <linuxn00b> Hi, has anyone gotten the gdesklets irc thingy to work?? well...actually it works but it doesnt seem to connect :s
[06:33] <lizardking> please help me
[06:33] <paradoxmo> what do you need help with
[06:34] <lizardking> i have pass all the afternoon to know this bug
[06:34] <Guardiann> hmm there is no folder called udev under etc
[06:34] <|QuaD-> linuxn00b: i used gdesklets a while ago, didn't like it that much, had irc thing working
[06:34] <|QuaD-> lizardking: whats the problem
[06:34] <lizardking> i have problem with nautilus
[06:34] <paradoxmo> Guardiann: did you upgrade from debian?
[06:34] <Guardiann> sorry i am blind
[06:34] <lizardking> i hav reinstalled nautilus
[06:34] <sxd> maximaus, is there other sources to download packages apart from synaptic?
[06:34] <Guardiann> from warty
[06:34] <linuxn00b> |QuaD-, how did you get it to work?? is it just slow at connecting??
[06:34] <paradoxmo> Guardiann: so is the link there?
[06:34] <|QuaD-> lizardking: hoary or warty? how did you "reinstall nautilus"
[06:34] <lizardking> and now i have my icons n nautilus applications/// but not in the menu bar Applications
[06:34] <|QuaD-> linuxn00b: it worked fine here
[06:35] <lizardking> warty
[06:35] <Guardiann> yes i have the link
[06:35] <lizardking> i reinstall with synaptic
[06:35] <linuxn00b> odd...mine open but not connect haha
[06:35] <lizardking> mark the package how RESINTALL
[06:35] <paradoxmo> hmm, and it still doesn't create the link to /dev/dvd?
[06:35] <Guardiann> nope
[06:35] <|QuaD-> lizardking: sorry, don't know synaptic... hoary or warty?
[06:36] <icerogue> |QuaD-: do you have to get your domain through them?
[06:36] <paradoxmo> Guardiann: what udev version? dpkg -s udev
[06:36] <|QuaD-> icerogue: no... sign up for something like icerogue.no-ip.com
[06:36] <|QuaD-> i will explain how to translate this to your domain after
[06:36] <Skwid_> paradoxmo: nono, i want to restart, but then be in console after I restarted, with no X
[06:37] <Guardiann> Version: 0.050-3ubuntu2
[06:37] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: do you want that to be permanent?
[06:37] <Skwid_> paradoxmo: no, just once
[06:37] <lizardking> warty
[06:38] <lizardking> synaptic is the GUI tool to install pkg in ubuntu/debian
[06:38] <lizardking> some help?
[06:38] <paradoxmo> Guardiann: try looking at the udev docs in /usr/share/doc/udev, there should be a way to add a symlink like you want
[06:38] <|QuaD-> lizardking: i know what it is.... i just find apt-get a much more intuitive UI
[06:38] <lizardking> ok
[06:38] <lizardking> im with warty
[06:38] <Guardiann> paradoxmo ok thanks i will in a few mins
[06:38] <lizardking> do U understand my bug?
[06:39] <lizardking> , prova
[06:39] <Guardiann> i will let you know
[06:39] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: do you really need to be in console only? or can you just switch to it ctrl-alt-f1
[06:39] <Skwid_> nono
[06:39] <Skwid_> i need no X running
[06:39] <lizardking> %n o
[06:39] <|QuaD-> lizardking: yes, but i can't help you, no idea what that did
[06:39] <Skwid_> is that what the 2d mode is in grub ?
[06:39] <paradoxmo> you can do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then logout of your current session
[06:39] <lizardking> uff
[06:39] <lizardking> i have tried al
[06:39] <lizardking> all
[06:40] <lizardking> some in gconf but dont know where
[06:40] <lizardking> maybe some in gconf but dont know where
[06:40] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: no, that gets you into single user mode
[06:40] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: i assume you want multiuser, but without x?
[06:40] <Skwid_> paradoxmo: hum ... i just want no X
[06:40] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: what are you trying to do?
[06:41] <Skwid_> paradoxmo: lauch project looking glass in session
[06:41] <occy> scizzo: hey... you rock.  custom seems to be working just fine.
[06:41] <lizardking> someone knows weel Nautilus here?
[06:41] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: okay, what you want to do is logout of your current x session, and then from command line do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:41] <Skwid_> paradoxmo: and how do i do that ?
[06:42] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: you're in X now, right?
[06:42] <Skwid_> paradoxmo: i'm on windows right now :)
[06:42] <Skwid_> gonna reboot in a few secs
[06:42] <paradoxmo> Skwid_: basically,
[06:43] <paradoxmo> switch to a console (ctl-alt-f1) and then login; then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[06:43] <Skwid_> ok
[06:43] <Skwid_> i'll try
[06:44] <occy> heh, custom installed on this p200 laptop just peachy.
[06:44] <occy> Trying to setup this old lady with Ubuntu so she doesn't have to buy a new laptop.
[06:45] <occy> if she'd only use Lynx and Mutt, she'd be set.
[06:45] <occy> heh
[06:45] <funkyhat_____> does ubuntu install iptables by default?
[06:45] <linuxn00b> |QuaD-, do I need a irc client already running before I use the gdesklets irc??
[06:45] <|QuaD-> linuxn00b: no... it is an irc client... what is happened?
[06:45] <|QuaD-> *happening
[06:45] <occy> whoa...
[06:45] <occy> gdesklets irc?
[06:46] <occy> url?
[06:46] <paradoxmo> funkyhat___: yes
[06:46] <|QuaD-> occy, its there if you get the packages from ubuntu (i believe), might need hoary thoguh
[06:46] <paradoxmo> funkyhat___: but not activated by default
[06:46] <occy> http://www.freshports.org/irc/gdesklets-irc/
[06:46] <funkyhat_____> ok, thanks :)
[06:47] <linuxn00b> |QuaD-, well I open it using "gdesklets /usr/shre/gdesklets/Display/irc/irc.display" then I do the right click on it and enter my settings, but when I clcik on "reconnect" nothing happens I can't even configure it again without closing then opening it agian :s
[06:48] <occy> http://sremington.zapto.org/gdesklets/index.html
[06:48] <icerogue> |QuaD-: ok i am there
[06:49] <occy> that's insane.
[06:49] <occy> but cool
[06:49] <occy> what's next gdesklet firefox and thunderbird?
[06:49] <occy> heh
[06:50] <linuxn00b> a thunderbird one would be nice :D
[06:50] <occy> gdesklet blender!
[06:50] <Hwolf> Hm, after the recent upgrade's, I lost my audigy card.
[06:50] <|QuaD-> icerogue: now... put that address in your nameserver(dns) and it will work
[06:50] <icerogue> |QuaD-: icerogue.no-ip.com?
[06:50] <occy> gdesklets seem nice if you have a 3Ghz processor or something....
[06:50] <|QuaD-> icerogue: yuppers
[06:51] <|QuaD-> first i would test to make sure it works
[06:51] <|QuaD-> by ssh'ing to icerouge.no-ip.com or whatever
[06:51] <xvlun> hi
[06:51] <occy> oh.... serious question.  What do I need to install X?   I would like to do the probe-X or whatever it is that auto-detects your video settings under Ubuntu.
[06:52] <occy> I don't have X installed on that laptop as it is, I had to do a custom install as the HD is only 2G.
[06:52] <occy> So I still need to install X.
[06:52] <paradoxmo> occy: i believe you just need to apt-get install x-window-system
[06:53] <occy> ahhh
[06:53] <occy> shucks, I did xserver-xfree86
[06:53] <paradoxmo> yeah that doesn't bring in everything you need
[06:54] <occy> k, tx
[06:54] <icerogue>  |QuaD-:There is some problem updating the NameServers
[06:54] <icerogue> The problem is: Failed to get registrar lock
[06:54] <icerogue> There is some problem getting the NameServers
[06:54] <icerogue> The problem is: Cannot get list of existing nameservers|QuaD-:|QuaD-:
[06:54] <icerogue> |QuaD-: thats what i got when i tried
[06:55] <|QuaD-> icerogue: weird... waht nameserver you using?
[06:56] <icerogue> i put username.no-ip.com in for my nameserver listing at namecheap.com
[06:57] <|QuaD-> icerogue: what type of listing, cname?
[06:58] <BeTa> sorry for this off-topic post, but I have a good friend who is looking for a "training job" (in france we call it a "stage", which is a job to complete a formation, here ingeneering studies) in image and signal processing... if anyone is interrested... let me know ;c)
[06:58] <icerogue> |QuaD-: namecheap.com is my registrar, i am not sure what your question is
[06:59] <|QuaD-> icerogue: OHH i understand your problems... no-ip isn't a dns, so what dns server were you using?
[06:59] <|QuaD-> before this
[06:59] <|QuaD-> BeTa: i am interested
[06:59] <icerogue> namecheap.com has their own
[06:59] <|QuaD-> you sure they have their own servers??? i doubt it
[06:59] <|QuaD-> or they do, but they make you pay for the servers
[06:59] <crypticreign> where can i change focus settings in gnome?
[07:00] <icerogue>  You are currently using our domain name servers (DNS) for your domain.
[07:00] <linuxn00b> gdesklets irc sucks!!!! damn thing lags!!!
[07:01] <icerogue> |QuaD-: yeah they say they are
[07:01] <|QuaD-> icerogue: ok, weird... i don't know too much about it then
[07:01] <icerogue> |QuaD-: they offer a dynamic dns option. thats why i was looking into the website thing
[07:02] <crypticreign> i noticed that after i upgraded xorg last night, my mouse moves a lot slower now (touchpad)
[07:02] <icerogue> |QuaD-: they have a program that will do it but thats for windows
[07:02] <cavediver> Hi guys. Can nautilus burn img files, or is there a way to convert it to iso ?
[07:02] <xvlun> as i have a german dvorak layout, i modified /etc/X11/Xmodmap to suit my needs and within gdm it works, but when im finally logged into gnome, the layout is changed back to qwerty (.xmodmap in my homedir is nonexistant)
[07:05] <|QuaD-> icerogue: i use godaddy, coming up to expiration so i might switch to namecheap...
[07:06] <icerogue>  |QuaD-: namecheap.com is 8.88 a year no matter how manny years you want
[07:06] <icerogue> |QuaD-: and they have a special on .info right now i guess
[07:07] <|QuaD-> icerogue: i have a .us, and i want to get a .info.... thats why i might switch, godaddy used to be cheapest
[07:07] <icerogue> |QuaD-: 2.88 for .info right now
[07:08] <|QuaD-> icerogue: yeah
[07:09] <icerogue> |QuaD-:  http://dynamicdns.park-your-domain.com/update?host=host_name&domain=domain.com&password=domain_password is the url i canuse
[07:09] <|QuaD-> icerogue: ?
[07:10] <icerogue> |QuaD-: thats the url you can use to update your ip in the dns
[07:10] <|QuaD-> oh from namescheap?
[07:13] <icerogue> |QuaD-: yeah
[07:14] <|QuaD-> then just do that php -r trick i showed you above
[07:15] <|QuaD-> icerogue: have you recieved any "coupons" in their email newsletters?
[07:16] <icerogue> |QuaD-: i got an reeor in your command you showed me "Parse error: parse error, unexpected $ in Command line code on line 1"
[07:16] <icerogue> *error
[07:17] <crypticreign> evilstoy: named after the synth group?
[07:17] <icerogue> |QuaD-: i just got the domain so i have yet to receive any newsletters from them
[07:18] <|QuaD-> oj
[07:18] <no0tic> hi
[07:18] <|QuaD-> *oh
[07:18] <october> moo
[07:18] <october> heh
[07:19] <stuNNed> heh
[07:19] <icerogue> |QuaD-: do you know what would be causing that error though
[07:19] <october> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD]
[07:19] <no0tic> I have acpi enabled, powernowd running, but the system shows a wrong cpu frequency, what can I do? with warty I didn't have problems
[07:19] <no0tic> I have an AMD 2800+ laptop
[07:19] <|QuaD-> icerogue: not a clue... i have nothing registered with them
[07:20] <no0tic> An it shows 796Mhz max intead of 2100...
[07:20] <icerogue> |QuaD-: i was talking about the php error i got
[07:22] <|QuaD-> icerogue: what is it
[07:22] <icerogue> |QuaD-: Parse error: parse error, unexpected $ in Command line code on line 1
[07:23] <|QuaD-> whats the exact line you put in
[07:23] <icerogue> |QuaD-: php -r "include('http://dynamicdns.park-your-domain.com/update?host=myip&domain=khkiota.org&password=7F47C9F9-C9F4-4B36-B2C5-B5973FC4B9AD')"
[07:24] <xiximkopp> hello! did anybody succeed in compiling coaster in hoary from source?
[07:24] <|QuaD-> no idea
[07:24] <|QuaD-> myabe try this
[07:24] <|QuaD-> hold up
[07:24] <icerogue> k
[07:25] <|QuaD-> php -r "header('Location: http://website')"
[07:26] <bartas> hi! anyone talking here?
[07:26] <|QuaD-> bartas: lots are
[07:26] <bartas> yeah....but can't see any...
[07:26] <icerogue> |QuaD-: same error
[07:27] <|QuaD-> ahh, add a semi colon before the last "
[07:28] <icerogue> |QuaD-: no error and no output to the screen
[07:28] <bartas> all right....But maybe U could help me...
[07:28] <funkyhat> how do i reload apache?
[07:28] <bartas> http restart
[07:28] <bartas> httpd - sprry
[07:28] <bartas> sorry :-)
[07:28] <|QuaD-> icerogue: then it worked
[07:28] <funkyhat> not using httpd
[07:29] <funkyhat> using apache2
[07:29] <Josip> @lal0
[07:29] <Josip> sorry ;-(
[07:29] <icerogue> |QuaD-: ok so how do i make that a cron job?
[07:29] <bartas> why would u like to reload apache all the time?
[07:29] <|QuaD-> icerogue: add it to your crontab
[07:30] <|QuaD-> crontab -e i believe
[07:30] <funkyhat> i just want to reload it because i've changed my config
[07:31] <icerogue> |QuaD-: will that run without me being logged in?
[07:31] <bartas> ooops sorry, i've just noticed , that wasn't your question :-)
[07:31] <bartas> i mean - about putting it in the crontab
[07:31] <icerogue> bartas: no prob, good question on your part though
[07:32] <occy> hmmm, video on this Neomagic card is sucking....     0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD]
[07:32] <occy> anyone know anything about this chipset?
[07:33] <bartas> funkyhat: "moby wrote :/etc/init.d/apache2 restart for  Apache2"
[07:35] <bartas> sth fu**d up with ubuntu for GeForce4..? I can't set up more than 1280x1024....Anyone seen sth like this?
[07:35] <Agrajag> sth?
[07:35] <haakonn> something
[07:36] <haakonn> it's one of those new-fangled wicked (the bad kind of wicked) acronyms ;)
[07:37] <bartas> ooops my bad... SOMETHING  :P
[07:37] <Agrajag> yes, very bad kind of wicked, I swear, ten years from now all communication on the internet will consist of "words" no more than 3 letters in length and will require someone with a doctorate in linguistics to understand
[07:37] <Agrajag> What driver are you using, nv or nvidia?
[07:37] <bartas> nvidia
[07:38] <Agrajag> Check your X config and see if you have modelines set for higher resolutions
[07:38] <Agrajag> IF they still use those
[07:38] <bartas> i've already done it. But 1280 is still max
[07:38] <Agrajag> weird
[07:38] <bartas> morever
[07:39] <bartas> under MShit everythink seems to be ok...
[07:39] <haakonn> Agrajag:  but imagine how seriously you will be taken as one of the last remaining people who can type out complete sentences :)
[07:39] <crimsun> occy: what's sucking about it?
[07:39] <Agrajag> haakonn: I'd imagine, not very. "oh lk at th guy who stl tlk lik som old prsn"
[07:40] <haakonn> hehe
[07:40] <bartas> oh i gss, that nbdy can hlp m
[07:40] <bartas> ;>
[07:41] <bartas> witam polaka...
[07:41] <ja> :D
[07:42] <crimsun> bartas: it would help immensely if you pasted your /var/log/XFree86.0.log [or /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you're running hoary]  to pastebin.com
[07:42] <occy> crimsun: hey bud.
[07:42] <bartas> ok,proceeding
[07:42] <occy> crimsun: well, there is this older lady who I'm trying to save her some money by getting Linux on this laptop.    X is working but in like 8 bit color or something.
[07:43] <occy> crimsun: I would think you should be able to get at least 800x600 on it @16bpp
[07:44] <gt500> back again :D
[07:44] <ja> Is it ok to make 1 partition as xfs and another one as ext3?
[07:44] <gt500> ^^
[07:46] <gt500> hmm , it's quiet here ...
[07:46] <crimsun> occy: not necessarily. Paste the log onto pastebin.
[07:46] <occy> crimsun: Okies...
[07:46] <crimsun> occy: that chipset is also known to have problems with locking up completely.
[07:47] <occy> crimsun: fun fun
[07:47] <paulproteus> BeTa: In English we call them internships.
[07:47] <bartas> and fluxbox died...:P
[07:47] <crimsun> bartas: have you pasted onto pastebin.com yet?
[07:48] <bartas> in a moment- fluxbox died
[07:48] <gt500> :)
[07:48] <linuxn00b> rip fluxbox :(
[07:48] <october> crimsun putting openssh-server on here...
[07:48] <october> crimsun it's me, occy. :)
[07:48] <gt500> :p
[07:48] <occy> heh
[07:49] <occy> got it
[07:49] <gt500> ^
[07:49] <gt500> ^_^
[07:50] <gt500> hhmmm .... gstreamer should be updated ... like add gstplugin-mad and just update the version ...
[07:50] <crimsun> bartas: pastebin.com
[07:51] <linuxn00b> when does the next stable version on ubuntu come out??
[07:51] <crimsun> bartas: please do not flood me in query, thanks.
[07:51] <icerogue> so the user doesnt have to be logged in for a cron job to work does it?
[07:51] <crimsun> icerogue: correct.
[07:51] <SteveA> is there a standard way to clean out obselete files in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[07:51] <crimsun> SteveA: sudo aptitude autoclean
[07:51] <SteveA> ta
[07:51] <bartas> done
[07:51] <crimsun> SteveA: (or sudo apt-get autoclean, ...)
[07:52] <icerogue> Is this a proper line in a crontab? [30 18 * * * php -r "header('Location: http://dynamicdns.park-your-domain.com/update?host=myip&domain=khkiota.org&password=7F47C9F9-C9F4-4B36-B2C5-B5973FC4***');"]
[07:52] <gt500> linuxn00b, when it's done
[07:52] <gt500> :p
[07:53] <linuxn00b> :p
[07:54] <gt500> icerogue, i do'ntsee anything wrong ...
[07:54] <gt500> don't*
[07:54] <occy> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/230916
[07:54] <icerogue> i wasnt sure if i was write on the time format
[07:54] <icerogue> *right
[07:54] <gt500> w8
[07:55] <gt500> i'll have a look
[07:55] <icerogue> it should be every day at 6:30pm
[07:55] <bartas> crimsun: see something wrong? Being honest , i don;t
[07:56] <icerogue> |QuaD-: thanks for all the help
[07:57] <njs12345> woot woot woot
[07:57] <njs12345> new ATI drivers!
[07:57] <mjr> whee, new binary blobs
[07:58] <gt500> icerogue, it's good :)
[07:58] <gt500> new ati drivers , where ? :D
[07:58] <gt500> :p
[07:58] <gt500> ati.com prolly
[07:58] <gt500> :p
[07:58] <njs12345> http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html
[07:58] <njs12345> and.. they support X.org!
[07:58] <icerogue> thanks for checking
[07:58] <njs12345> it feels like christmas has come.. terribly terribly late
[07:58] <gt500> icerogue,  you didn't specify a user ..
[07:59] <icerogue> i created it with an admin acct using crontab -e
[07:59] <Dko> Hi im not the most learned at ubuntu(or any linux) But I was wondering what packages would I have to install to get gcc to work and maybe any other instalation instructions you might need to tell me?  I know how to use the package manager so im good on that.
[07:59] <gt500> ow , k :)
[07:59] <icerogue> that should work right?
[08:00] <gt500> icerogue, yeah
[08:00] <njs12345> icerogue: try installing gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4
[08:00] <occy> Dko: build-essential
[08:00] <occy> Dko: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:00] <gt500> Dko, gcc, gcc3.3/3.4, g++, g++3.33.4
[08:00] <icerogue> Dko: sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:00] <gt500> occy, works too :p
[08:00] <icerogue> whats the 3.33.4?
[08:01] <gt500> forgot a / :p
[08:01] <gt500> Dko, gcc, gcc3.3/3.4, g++, g++3.3/3.4
[08:01] <crimsun> bartas: your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is a mess.
[08:01] <gt500> but what occy said is better
[08:01] <icerogue> gt500: what is the 3/3.4?
[08:01] <bartas> ok, but it's default
[08:01] <occy> Dko: also... a cool tip is...      if you want to compile an application, you can do:   apt-get build-dep  APPLICATION
[08:01] <icerogue> version?
[08:01] <occy> Dko: what do you want to compile?
[08:01] <crimsun> bartas: first, you should comment out dri, drm, and glcore
[08:02] <crimsun> bartas: next, are you _positive_ your screen can handle 1600x1280?
[08:02] <njs12345> if you want to develop applications based off anything other than the std library, you want to install the *-dev packages for the library
[08:02] <gt500> icerogue, there's a version 3.3 and a version 3.4 , so you can choose which one you install
[08:02] <Dko> Just some mud source code I dled and wanted to mess with
[08:02] <bartas> sht...My bad, i forgot to do this, - but was almost sure that apt will do this...
[08:02] <bartas> sure it can handle....Under w2k3 does
[08:02] <icerogue> gt500: whats the default with apt-get?
[08:02] <occy> Dko: ahh
[08:02] <bartas> under FEdoraCore1,2,3 also
[08:02] <bartas> so...
[08:02] <njs12345> for instance, you need libgtk2.0-dev if you want to develop GTK apps
[08:02] <gt500> 3.3
[08:02] <occy> Dko: yeah, just do:   apt-get install build-essential
[08:03] <bartas> it can handle 1600x1280 A 75 HZ
[08:03] <gt500> in synaptics you can choose to install 3.4 ??
[08:03] <gt500> ?? = ..
[08:03] <gt500> :p
[08:03] <njs12345> although I'd reccomend 3.4 - I've had no problems with it
[08:04] <skippy> is there a web interface to the Ubuntu package collection a la packages.debian.org ?
[08:04] <Dko> If the code comes with a make file would you recomend me using that just to quickly compile the code?
[08:04] <crimsun> bartas: do you have a Modeline for it?
[08:04] <crimsun> bartas: and you also need to specify Option "IgnoreEDID" "true"
[08:05] <bartas> 1. I do. 2. I will.
[08:06] <crimsun> bartas: in which Section did you place the Modeline?
[08:06] <TTilus> skippy: packages.debian.org ?
[08:06] <njs12345> is there a reason why x-window-system-core is being held back?
[08:06] <njs12345> I'm running hoary
[08:06] <skippy> TTilus: packages.debian.org lets me search for packages online.
[08:06] <bartas> Screen, substecion display
[08:06] <icerogue> man i love linux, i have a complete mail/http/ftp/ssh server and it only took 887MB
[08:06] <njs12345> and I'd like to upgrade to xorg as soon as possible
[08:06] <gt500> skippy, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[08:06] <skippy> My wife uses Ubuntu, not me, and I'd like to be able to see what packages are available to her
[08:06] <skippy> ah!
[08:06] <skippy> thanks!
[08:07] <bartas> wrong?
[08:07] <gt500> skippy, why a web interface ? Use Synaptcs ...
[08:07] <gt500> Synaptics*
[08:08] <skippy> gt500: because I don't use Ubuntu, and would like to see what's available from anywhere I might be
[08:08] <Chongo> hi, would it be possible to ask a question about installing a network card here?
[08:08] <icerogue> skippy: what do you use?
[08:08] <Dko> I guess the make file isn't gona work.  *Watches error after error slide down his console window* @_@
[08:08] <neofeed> hey kids. is there a way to install KDE on ubuntu - not that I would want to. But the nut who's going to do the linux work group at school put up the requirement to have kde.
[08:08] <njs12345> Chongo: yes
[08:08] <crimsun> bartas: it goes in Section "Monitor"
[08:08] <skippy> icerogue: I use Debian; but I don't use Synapitc.
[08:08] <njs12345> neofeed: yes
[08:08] <gt500> Chongo, just ask ;)
[08:08] <neofeed> I don't care if it's cripled or somethin.
[08:08] <njs12345> it's in the universe repos and all, so it's not officially supported
[08:09] <Chongo> i've just installed ubuntu for a friend, a we've got a network card subsequently, but i'm not sure how to install a driver for it
[08:09] <ZzeCoOl> hey guys plz i have a problem
[08:09] <Chongo> i've never used linux before :)
[08:09] <ZzeCoOl> i have installed windows and now cant boot linux
[08:09] <linuxn00b> anyone here play battle for wesnoth?
[08:09] <ZzeCoOl> any clue?
[08:09] <Chongo> i've set up an ethernet connection, but it says the network card is unknown in the device manager
[08:09] <njs12345> Chongo: what network card is it?
[08:09] <ZzeCoOl> how can i reinstall grub?
[08:09] <no0tic> ZzeCoOl: you have to boot from a liveCD and reinstall grub
[08:09] <Heinz> hi all
[08:09] <icerogue>  ZzeCoOl: yeah windows overwote your mba
[08:10] <Heinz> first time in ubuntus like server
[08:10] <Heinz> nice .. ;)
[08:10] <ZzeCoOl> no0tic i tryied the ubuntu guide
[08:10] <Chongo> its a pcmcia card, the device manager says the vendor is honeywell
[08:10] <ZzeCoOl> but didnt work
[08:10] <Chongo> and the OEM Vendor is Radisys Corp?
[08:10] <ZzeCoOl> cause my linux is in a diff hard drive than windows
[08:10] <Chongo> the box says it works with linux
[08:10] <ZzeCoOl> and i dont know what to change to the commands
[08:11] <bartas> hm...have't done like this yet...
[08:11] <Chongo> is there some kind of configuration tool i need to run for pcmcia devices?
[08:11] <Chongo> to detect it?
[08:11] <bartas> is it special for debian/ubuntu
[08:11] <bartas> ?
[08:11] <gt500> Chongo, was the network card in the pc when you installed Ubuntu ?
[08:11] <Chongo> no
[08:11] <ZzeCoOl> anyone who know how to but linux again (install grup)plz msg me
[08:11] <ZzeCoOl> plz
[08:11] <crimsun> bartas: no, standard.
[08:11] <Chongo> we bought it just now from the university shop
[08:11] <ZzeCoOl> <---- begger
[08:11] <ZzeCoOl> :D
[08:12] <Chongo> it has a floppy disc with it, supposedly with drivers on, but neither of us has a floppy drive, and the guy said that linux would have the drivers we needed
[08:12] <Riddell> neofeed: yes, you can install KDE from the universe repository, KDE 3.2, KDE 3.3
[08:13] <Riddell> 3.2 in warty, 3.3 in hoary
[08:13] <neofeed> oka
[08:13] <gt500> Chongo, reinstall Ubuntu :p
[08:13] <Chongo> there's no other way to add new hardware!?
[08:13] <bartas> crimsun: sorry , maybe it looks stupid for you :-), but i didn't have to do it in RH, FEDORA, MDK, Gentoo....
[08:13] <skippy> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kino/  <-- shows Kino, but `apt-get install kino` can't find the package.
[08:14] <bartas> crimsun: so that;s why asking...;-) but thanks, i'll try .
[08:14] <gt500> Chongo, i think there is , via modprobe
[08:14] <gt500> i think ..
[08:14] <TTilus> Chongo: first shot, just put the card in and reboot, see what happens
[08:14] <Chongo> tried that
[08:15] <gt500> idd TTilus
[08:15] <gt500> :p
[08:15] <gt500> hmm :/
[08:15] <TTilus> Chongo: and didn't work i guess  :)
[08:15] <Chongo> it doesn't detect anything - just has an 'Unknown (0x8139) entry in the device manager
[08:15] <Chongo> under the PCMCIA bus
[08:15] <TTilus> Chongo: ok, PCMCIA bus is fine, that's a step
[08:16] <bartas> crimsun: thanx, going check if it's worked...
[08:16] <TTilus> Chongo: now you only need to find out correct drivers
[08:16] <Chongo> everything in the machine seems to be installed fine, just don't know how to add a driver / scan for new hardware :)
[08:16] <[Phaedrus] > ZzeCoOl: install grub you mean?
[08:16] <TTilus> Chongo: i guess you have the make and model of card at hand?
[08:16] <Heinz> hi .. where can i find something like boot.local, or rc.local in ubuntu? (want to add some iptables rules when the server starts)
[08:16] <gt500> TTilus, they havethe drivers , but they don't have a floppy drive ...
[08:17] <gt500> Chongo, reinstall , it doesn't take that long ..
[08:17] <gt500> :p
[08:17] <linuxboy> Chongo: dont reinstall
[08:17] <TTilus> gt500: yes i know that
[08:17] <ZzeCoOl> does anyone know how i can reinstall grup?
[08:17] <gt500> or ...
[08:17] <gt500> add module in your kernel
[08:17] <Chongo> the box is really unhelpful, it says '100/10 Mbps Fast Ethernet Cardbys Adapter'
[08:17] <TTilus> Chongo: just check out the make and model and report here
[08:17] <linuxboy> Chongo: debian never needs to be re-installed
[08:17] <Necrosan> how do you put files on an ipod mini from linux?
[08:17] <Chongo> but
[08:17] <linuxboy> ZzeCoOl: grub-install
[08:17] <Necrosan> its plugged in via usb
[08:17] <TTilus> Chongo: :D
[08:17] <Chongo> the device manager says the vendor is Honeywell
[08:18] <gt500> Necrosan, you can't ...
[08:18] <Chongo> and the OEM Vendor is Radisys Corp?
[08:18] <Necrosan> gt500: are you serious?
[08:18] <TTilus> linuxboy: unless you really blow it up
[08:18] <gt500> iPod is for Windows & Mac Only ...
[08:18] <gt500> you mean mp3's ?
[08:18] <Necrosan> uh
[08:18] <gt500> or just files ?
[08:18] <gt500> liek a portable hd?
[08:18] <gt500> like*
[08:18] <Necrosan> I've heard you can put mp3s on it
[08:18] <TTilus> linuxboy: i once got lib6 corrupted  :-/
[08:18] <Dko> Would anyone be so kind as to help we figure out how to get this code I get to compile? I get a whole lot of warrnings and errors.
[08:18] <linuxboy> TTilus: what did Chongo do?
[08:19] <Dko> *I got
[08:19] <gt500> Dko, paste log pm ;)
[08:19] <Chongo> huh?
[08:19] <gt500> Necrosan, where did you here that ?
[08:19] <Dko> How would I do that?
[08:19] <bj_> OMG I just discovered the wonders of VNC
[08:19] <TTilus> Chongo: nothing else?  radisys cardbus eth adapter?
[08:19] <Chongo> it says the vendor is honeywell - i'm looking on their site to see if there's a model number or something
[08:19] <skippy> How can I install Kino onto Ubuntu?
[08:19] <linuxboy> Necrosan: i think there are programs for ipods
[08:19] <Necrosan> http://people.csail.mit.edu/people/adonovan/hacks/ipod.html
[08:19] <Dko> I don't wana paste all theses errors on screen. >_>  Youd all kill me.
[08:19] <Chongo> the box does have linux support specifically on it though
[08:20] <TTilus> Chongo: does the card have any mysterious numbers printed on it?
[08:20] <Hwolf> dko: #flood
[08:20] <gt500> Necrosan, http://armin.emx.at/ipod/
[08:20] <gt500> maybe that will help :)
[08:20] <Chongo> its got a serial number
[08:20] <lizardking> some help for me?
[08:20] <gt500> Necrosan, http://people.csail.mit.edu/people/adonovan/hacks/ipod.html
[08:20] <gt500> just google ...
[08:20] <gt500> you'll find
[08:20] <gt500> :)
[08:20] <navik> read about this at the ubuntulinux.org, so this is a debian clone?
[08:21] <Chongo> S/N AKE1409002519
[08:21] <Hwolf> navik: based on debian, but vastly friendlier.
[08:21] <zenrox> navik,  no its debian on crack
[08:21] <TTilus> navik: based on, not exactly clone
[08:21] <Chongo> P/N: 18-0D-F401
[08:21] <lizardking> some help for me?
[08:21] <gt500> lizardking, just ask your question
[08:21] <gt500> ;)
[08:22] <Dko> Umm how do I use this #flood?  Like I said im fairly new to linux.
[08:22] <TTilus> zenrox: more like debian with wax and nail polish  :)
[08:22] <lizardking> ok plase gt500 read this
[08:22] <navik> so there are a wast usage of ubuntu I see... nice
[08:22] <zenrox> TTilus,  hehehehe
[08:22] <lizardking> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11782
[08:22] <navik> maybe try it some day...
[08:23] <zenrox> navik,  d/l the live cd and try it
[08:23] <Chongo> Ttilus: have you got any clues dude? the site seems to be in polish, which is extremely helpful :)
[08:23] <TTilus> Chongo: this cutie?  http://www.burtoncomputers.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=2571
[08:23] <navik> zenrox: maybe I should! thanx for the tip...
[08:23] <zenrox> hehehe
[08:23] <Chongo> Ttilus: looks a bit like that
[08:23] <lizardking> gt500 did u read?
[08:23] <Hwolf> crimsun?
[08:23] <Chongo> ttilus: sticker is different, but looks the same
[08:25] <lizardking> I have reinstalled Nautilus and now my launcher in "Applications" are not there.
[08:25] <lizardking> if I make
[08:25] <lizardking> [CODE] nautilus applications:///[/CODE]
[08:25] <lizardking> I saw my launcher but the system doesn't want to display in the bar.
[08:25] <lizardking> How can I do?
[08:25] <lizardking> thnx  :confused:
[08:25] <gt500> lizardking, right mouse click your panel ?
[08:26] <lizardking> i'm using warty but i have taken only gaim 1.1.1 from hoary.
[08:26] <lizardking> Yes i have reinstalled Nautilus.
[08:26] <lizardking> All works but i cannot make NEW launcher in Applications and my old launcher cannot be displayed even ther are in nautilus applications:///
[08:26] <lizardking> idem
[08:26] <lizardking> right click creat icons in nautilus application:/// but not display it
[08:26] <Dko> Well Ill just post a few of the errors and warrnings.  They are all very simmilar.
[08:26] <Dko> mud.h:6996: error: stray '\4' in program
[08:26] <Dko> mud.h:6996:138: warning: null character(s) ignored
[08:26] <Dko> mud.h:6996: error: stray '\32' in program
[08:26] <Dko> mud.h:6996: error: syntax error at '@' token
[08:27] <funkyhat_food> why isn't apache serving index.php and forwarding to /apache2-default instead?
[08:27] <randabis-laptop> flood whore
[08:27] <zenrox> lol
[08:27] <Chongo> Ttilus: I could use one of the computers in the computer room to check out the floppy disc - will that have any more info on?
[08:28] <Dko> Anyone? A little help please? ><
[08:28] <[Phaedrus] > Dko, what are you compiling?
[08:28] <Arkainium> i installed warty on my laptop, which i have connected to a kvm, so i pretty much leave it on all day.  i noticed that once in a while it'll lock up while idle.  I'd come back, no keys work, nothing.  I'm using the open source radeon driver, so i'm not sure what could be the cause.
[08:30] <Arkainium> also, i can't understand why there's disk activity around every 10 seconds.  i'd like my hd to go to sleep when it's idle.
[08:30] <lizardking> someone can help me with nautilus?
[08:30] <TTilus> Chongo: that would propably help
[08:31] <Chongo> TTilus: OK - I'll let you know in a minute? Thanks loads dude!
[08:31] <TTilus> Chongo: i didnt find anything useful from www.radisys.com using the information available
[08:31] <Dko> Im compileing a smaug code base
[08:31] <Tuxicity> lizardking, basically, your Applications menu has disappeared, right?
[08:32] <sri_> -+
[08:32] <Tuxicity> lizardking, but shows up in Nautilus applications://
[08:32] <AndyFitz> http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/etiquette-icons.tar.gz
[08:33] <AndyFitz> -- still adding the artwork together to form the them.  should be good to use in its current state tho
[08:34] <TTilus> lizardking: i recall having the same problem but can't remember how i got around it  :-/
[08:34] <Chongo> TTilus: The driver on the disc is in a folder called Red Hat 6.2, and says its for the 2.2 kernel - it does however say that the driver used is rtl8139.c
[08:34] <Tuxicity> lizardking, if Im right, somebody had this same problem yesterday and someone (some guru) gave him a command that fixed it
[08:34] <lizardking> tuxcity no wait
[08:35] <lizardking> my icons in applications are disappares
[08:35] <lizardking> the menu is there
[08:35] <TTilus> Chongo: that's it, you have plain standard realtek chipset
[08:35] <Dko> Not enough Info about the code im trying to compile?
[08:35] <TTilus> Chongo: modprobe rtl8139
[08:35] <TTilus> sorry
[08:35] <TTilus> Chongo: sudo modprobe rtl8139
[08:35] <Chongo> TTilus: where do i run modprobe from?
[08:35] <TTilus> chand: what does it say
[08:36] <Chongo> TTilus: does it have to be a specific directory?
[08:36] <jmhodges> anyone else seeing that gtk-gnutella is borked in hoary?
[08:36] <TTilus> Chongo: where ever you feel like
[08:36] <jmhodges> not installing any binaries
[08:36] <TTilus> Chongo: it know where to find modules
[08:36] <Bort-> quick question, I read somewhere that you could upgrade to Hoary, so I changed the names from warty to hoary in sources, ran apt-get update, then upgrade. Upon the update and reboot I didn't notice that gnome or anything was really updated. Any idea what I may be doing wrong?
[08:36] <Chongo> TTilus: oh, and then those configure the device?
[08:36] <CaPS_> hello
[08:36] <CaPS_> anyone here ever use ldap ?
[08:37] <gt500> Chongo, indeed :p
[08:37] <gt500> liek i told ya :p
[08:37] <Tuxicity> jmhodges, Ive installed the .deb from gtk-gnutella website and it works fine (on Warty though)
[08:37] <gt500> modprobe :D
[08:37] <jmhodges> Tuxicity: interesting.. thanks
[08:37] <Chongo> that's good stuff
[08:37] <Chongo> is modprobe a normal thing?
[08:37] <TTilus> Chongo: configure?  no, modprobe loads kernel module for the card
[08:38] <Chongo> oh, so how does it know which device to assign it to, what if i had two the same? or two different cards?
[08:38] <TTilus> Chango: define normal
[08:38] <Bort-> any idea?
[08:38] <gt500> Chongo, when you've don modprobe , just configure the device via network-admin
[08:38] <Chongo> TTilus: as in something which you normally do in linux for this sort of thing
[08:38] <TTilus> Chango: then you would have to give some parameters at load time to have it behave expectedly
[08:39] <Dko> Is there a better place I can go for compiling info?
[08:39] <Tuxicity> Bort-, how to update to Hoary is explained on the Wiki I believe
[08:40] <Dko> I starting to think if I talked to my self I would get more of a response.
[08:40] <Bort-> Yes, I looked. I changed the sources to hoary, and ran apt-get upgrade. Do I have to use aptitude or synaptic to update though?
[08:40] <Chongo> TTilus: hmm, it says 'FATAL: Module rtl8139 not found'
[08:40] <will> does anyone hereuse any backports from hoary to warty?
[08:40] <TTilus> Chongo: too bad
[08:41] <TTilus> Chongo: what says uname -r
[08:42] <bruce583> does anyone know why my computer won't play cd's
[08:42] <Chongo> TTilus: <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[08:42] <borgista> you probably haven't set it up.
[08:42] <borgista> they usually pop up automatically .
[08:42] <bruce583> how do i do that
[08:42] <bruce583> it comes up, no sound
[08:42] <borgista> what do you use to play music?
[08:43] <borgista> do you have sound in general?
[08:43] <bruce583> i have realplayer, totem, xmms, none play sound
[08:43] <jatos> hi
[08:43] <bruce583> yeah
[08:43] <bruce583> for mp3 downloads
[08:43] <borgista> then you're problem is making the sound card work.
[08:43] <jatos> how much does it cost ubuntu to ship the cd's?
[08:43] <borgista> what's your soundcard?
[08:43] <TTilus> Chongo: ummm... strange
[08:43] <bruce583> i don't know
[08:43] <bruce583> let me look
[08:44] <Chongo> TTilus: ? :-)
[08:44] <borgista> you have to download the sources and headers for your kernel. then download the alsa drivers, libs, and utils and install them.
[08:44] <TTilus> Chongo: i would have expected that stock kernels contain pretty much every driver available
[08:44] <borgista> then run $sudo alsaconf
[08:44] <borgista> then $ alsamixer
[08:44] <borgista> i had the same problem with my AudigyLS card.
[08:44] <TTilus> Chongo: hay, try  locate 8139
[08:44] <TTilus> does it show anything?
[08:45] <crimsun> bruce583: what sound chipset?
[08:45] <borgista> he doesn't even know the soundcard.
[08:45] <borgista> i doubt he knows the chipset.
[08:45] <Chongo> TTilus: 'warning: locate could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory'
[08:46] <TTilus> Chongo: uhh
[08:46] <TTilus> Chongo: sudo updatedb
[08:46] <crimsun> ubuntu includes alsa by default, so there's no need to recompile all that
[08:46] <borgista> I had to recompile my alsa.
[08:46] <borgista> Because my card requires newer drivers.
[08:46] <borgista> at least 1.0.7
[08:46] <borgista> at least.
[08:47] <borgista> So some other cards might need that too.
[08:47] <crimsun> you just needed alsa-driver, not alsa-driver+alsa-lib+alsa-utils
[08:47] <TTilus> Chongo: then again the prev
[08:47] <borgista> well, you're right there.
[08:48] <Chongo> TTilus: I've started updatedb, and its working on something - gives the same error as the locate thing though, whats again the prev?
[08:49] <Chongo> TTilus: do you mean do the locate thing again?
[08:50] <TTilus> Chongo: y
[08:50] <TTilus> Chongo: the same error?
[08:50] <Chongo> TTilus: ah: /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386/drivers/net/8139cp.ko and the same address/8139too.ko
[08:51] <TTilus> Chongo: now first try sudo modprobe 8139cp
[08:51] <TTilus> Chongo: then the other
[08:51] <TTilus> Chongo: ...if the first failed...
[08:52] <Chongo> TTilus: i did the cp one, and it didn't give an error message
[08:52] <Chongo> TTilus: how do i know if it worked?
[08:52] <TTilus> Chongo: it did not say "failed", that's how  :)
[08:53] <TTilus> Chongo: now check sudo lsmod | grep 8139
[08:53] <TTilus> Chongo: if it shows the module, it's loaded and workin and you should now have interface eth0 available to configure
[08:54] <Chongo> TTilus: err, it has three things, 8139cp, mii, and crc32
[08:54] <TTilus> Chongo: sounds like correct
[08:54] <Chongo> TTilus: the device manager still says 'Unknown'
[08:55] <TTilus> Chongo: don't be bothered, it'll keep saying "unknown" and it really doesn't matter
[08:55] <TTilus> :)
[08:56] <Chongo> TTilus: i configured a network connection in the 'Network Settings' thing before we did all this
[08:56] <Chongo> TTilus: does that mean that it was already installed automagically, or that i need to delete that and set up another one?
[08:56] <TTilus> Chongo: propably not
[08:57] <TTilus> Chongo: do you have a correct configuration?
[08:58] <TTilus> Chongo: network conf...
[08:58] <TTilus> Chongo: what says grep iface /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:59] <TTilus> Chongo: it should print out only a couple of lines, paste them here
[08:59] <Chongo> TTilus: erm, 'iface lo inet loopback, iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[09:00] <funkyhat> do i need mySQL client binaries to access mySQL with php?
[09:00] <TTilus> Chongo: separate lines, aren't they?
[09:00] <TTilus> Chongo: if, it looks good
[09:00] <Chongo> TTilus: yeah
[09:01] <TTilus> Chongo: now one more
[09:01] <TTilus> Chongo: cat /proc/net/dev | awk '{print $1}'
[09:01] <TTilus> Chongo: just to make sure you have the needed interfaces (and the driver really is working)
[09:02] <zido> is there any X DC client for Linux?
[09:02] <TTilus> Chongo: /proc/net/dev is virtual file holding description of network interfaces available
[09:02] <Chongo> TTilus: Inter - | next line face next line lo:35430047 next line sit0:
[09:03] <TTilus> ah, interface name is "sit0"
[09:03] <lizardking> some help for me with nautilus?
[09:04] <TTilus> "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in your /etc/network/interfaces should read "iface sit0 inet dhcp"
[09:04] <lizardking> please read this
[09:04] <lizardking> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11782
[09:05] <netmonk> can someone help me, pls. I'm trying to install firefox 1.0 in Ubuntu but the firefox-installer shell script doesn't seem to do anything, pls, help!
[09:05] <Tuxicity> netmonk, install fireofx 1.0 from Ubuntu Backports
[09:06] <Chongo> TTilus: can i change it using gedit? also, there's something that says 'auto eth0' below it
[09:06] <lizardking> please read this
[09:06] <lizardking> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11782
[09:07] <netmonk> Tuxicity, how?
[09:07] <TTilus> Chongo: yes you can, you gotta have root privileges to do that though
[09:07] <Tuxicity> netmonk, add their repository to Synaptic
[09:08] <netmonk> Tuxicity, where can I find the address
[09:08] <funkyhat> Chongo: i would suggest using synaptic package manager, but for some reason they only have .9 :S
[09:08] <TTilus> Chongo: auto statement defines the interfaces which should be brought up automatically upon boot
[09:08] <Tuxicity> netmonk, one sec...
[09:08] <jaco> netmonk: check where the simlink point
[09:09] <Chongo> TTilus: so i would want to change that to sit0 too?
[09:09] <netmonk> jaco, how?
[09:09] <jaco> netmonk: have u installed firefox? i'm sure yes
[09:09] <Chongo> TTilus: what causes this sit0 thing anyway?
[09:09] <Chongo> :_)
[09:09] <tong> I'm new here. Just pop in and say hi.
[09:09] <jaco> now u have firefox in a directory
[09:09] <jaco> so your problem is that the old link point to mozilla...
[09:09] <tong> I might choose ubuntu for my AMD64 someday.
[09:09] <funkyhat> sorry chongo, my message was supposed to be to netmonk
[09:10] <Tuxicity> netmonk, URI:  http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/
[09:10] <jaco> so u has to check where the old link point and change it
[09:10] <TTilus> Chongo: define "sit0 thing"
[09:10] <Tuxicity> netmonk, Distribution:  warty-backports
[09:10] <Tuxicity> netmonk, Sections:  main universe
[09:10] <netmonk> thanks
[09:10] <Tuxicity> netmonk, np
[09:10] <tong> any1 with good experience with ASUS K8V mobo?
[09:11] <jaco> or u can do as Tuxicity says and this will do the hard job for u
[09:11] <tong> with VIA K8T800 chipset?
[09:11] <jaco> :)
[09:11] <Chongo> TTilus: well i don't understand what the difference between eth0 and sit0 is, why would it be different, is that because of the driver we installed?
[09:11] <TTilus> Chongo: if you mean the naming, pci ethernet adapters are usually named ethX
[09:11] <Tuxicity> jaco, ;)
[09:11] <Jamie_Bennett> tong: I'm using one now
[09:11] <Chongo> TTilus: k, and this one isn't?
[09:11] <TTilus> Chongo: remember, you did net confing before driver loading
[09:11] <tong> Really? great news to me.
[09:11] <TTilus> Chongo: configuration widget had to guess iface name
[09:11] <tong> everything working fine?
[09:11] <Jamie_Bennett> Yes
[09:12] <Jamie_Bennett> Everything
[09:12] <TTilus> Chongo: i remember you saying you had pcmcia adapter
[09:12] <Chongo> TTilus: i tried re-doing it though, afterwards, and it still chose eth0
[09:12] <tong> Great! I'm using debian testing currently. the sound and cdr don't work.
[09:12] <tong> That's really great. I'll give ubuntu a try
[09:12] <Chongo> TTilus: erm, do you know how i can edit this thing with root priviledges? (sorry to be tiresome! :-) )
[09:12] <tong> everthing work out of the box?
[09:12] <TTilus> Chongo: to be honest i don't know if pcmcia cards should produce interfaces named sitX...
[09:13] <tong> or you have to do something?
[09:13] <jaco> tong:  ubuntu has the best hardware recognition that i've saw
[09:13] <Jamie_Bennett> Only problem I had with the K8v was having to disable the onboard network in favor of a PCI network card but I was using a pre-release to install
[09:13] <jaco> and i ve worket with all the distribution of the world
[09:13] <jaco> :)
[09:13] <tong> k
[09:13] <TTilus> Chongo: xhost +
[09:13] <tong> Do you use on board sound?
[09:13] <TTilus> Chongo: then sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:14] <Jamie_Bennett> Yes
[09:14] <tong> great!
[09:14] <Jamie_Bennett> The onboard network problem was sorted out with kernel 2.6.8
[09:14] <jaco> so, what audio card u have?
[09:14] <jaco> what cdrom?
[09:14] <tong> ATAPI:0,0,0          SONY    , CD-RW  CRX195E1 , ZYS5
[09:15] <TTilus> Chongo: that xhost + totally disables x client authentication, so don't do it if you are online with the computer, but if im not completely wrong you aren't
[09:15] <tong> Generic SCSI-3/MMC says, Cannot retrieve drive capabilities mode page.
[09:15] <tong> on board sound.
[09:15] <tong> on board sound. @ jaco
[09:15] <Chongo> TTilus: no not now, so i just swap eth0 for sit0 in both thingies and save it?
[09:16] <TTilus> if you do sudo gedit without tuning x connection settings, a different user trying to connect to your x is of course blocked
[09:16] <jaco> can u try a mount from a terminal tong ?
[09:16] <tong> try a mount?
[09:16] <TTilus> Chongo: y
[09:16] <tong> what do you mean?
[09:16] <jaco> open a terminal and write mount
[09:16] <jaco> and write here the result
[09:16] <tong> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[09:16] <tong> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[09:16] <tong> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[09:17] <tong>  /dev/sda6 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
[09:17] <TTilus> Chongo: umm... will you always be online when booting up your laptop?
[09:17] <tong> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[09:17] <Chongo> TTilus: yeah, it will be always online
[09:17] <TTilus> Chongo: if not you propably should take away that auto-line
[09:17] <TTilus> Chongo: ah, then it's OK
[09:17] <tong> want my lsmod?
[09:17] <Chongo> TTilus: oh
[09:17] <jaco> put a cd inside and write mount again
[09:17] <Chongo> TTilus: well it will be most of the time, i guess if he takes it to a library or something it won't
[09:18] <occy> crimsun: did you ever check out my pastebin?
[09:18] <occy> crimsun: you were helping the other guy... so I thought I'd wait. ;)
[09:18] <Chongo> TTilus: if i take it out, will he have to do something every time he wants to connect?
[09:18] <jaco> have u a link named cdrom in /media ?
[09:19] <TTilus> Chongo: when not online fetching ip from dhcp timeouts, nothing special is needed, but it just takes extra 30 sec or so during bootup
[09:19] <TTilus> Chongo: can be really annoying...
[09:19] <TTilus> Chongo: if you have saved /etc/network/interfaces plug it in and
[09:19] <TTilus> sudo ifdown -a
[09:20] <TTilus> sudo ifup -a
[09:20] <occy> bbiab, baby woke up.
[09:20] <TTilus> Chongo: the first is not actually needed, only making sure that places are clear
[09:21] <TTilus> Chongo: ifup and ifdown bring network interfaces up and down
[09:21] <Cindux> hey all
[09:22] <TTilus> Chongo: -a tells it to (de)configure all the interfaces
[09:22] <Chongo> TTilus: ok, so kinda like ipconfig in windows
[09:22] <TTilus> Chongo: man ifup and man ifdown for more
[09:22] <Chongo> TTilus: he won't be able to get an ip address yet, because we'll need to register has MAC address with the server
[09:22] <TTilus> Chongo: no, actually the ipconfig counterpart lies in the background
[09:23] <Chongo> TTilus: is there a way of finding that out?
[09:23] <Chongo> TTilus: ooh, the dhcp thingy says 'sit0: unknown hardware address type 776'
[09:23] <TTilus> Chongo: ifup and ifdown are frontends which can be configured to pretty much anything upon interface start or shutdown
[09:24] <tong> @jaco, thank you for trying to find a fix for me. Maybe it is better for me to introduce my situation a bit first. so we could cut to the chase.
[09:24] <tong> I've been using Linux for many years.
[09:25] <tong> that same SONY CDROM has been working for me before, in another MOBO, in the same Debian testing env.
[09:25] <tong> I've got it working with cdrecord current.
[09:25] <tong> cdrdao can do a read, but failed at write.
[09:25] <tong> It is a know issue.
[09:25] <tong> see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=2&threadid=179542
[09:26] <TTilus> Chongo: ouch!
[09:26] <netmonk> for some reason i don't seem to able to execute executable files on my ububntu powerpc edition, any ideas why?
[09:26] <jaco> ok, sorry, i've understood your situation now, is more complex than what i thought
[09:26] <jaco> i can't help u
[09:26] <Zcalot> Hello
[09:26] <Zcalot> I have a question about ubuntu
[09:26] <tong> thanks for the offer anyway.
[09:27] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, ask
[09:27] <tong> I think I'll give ubuntu a try.
[09:27] <Simira> Zcalot: you're in the right place then
[09:27] <Zcalot> I wonder if you can play half life 2 and counter strike source with it?
[09:27] <Cindux> I have a question for Ubuntu to
[09:27] <Tuxicity> Cindux, just ask
[09:27] <Cindux> I'm trying to burn the image onto a CD but I get this
[09:28] <Chongo> TTilus: so do you think that this card is working, or is there something wrong?
[09:28] <Cindux> lol ..
[09:28] <Cindux> one sec
[09:28] <tong> :-)
[09:28] <Cindux> ah
[09:28] <Cindux> K In Nero
[09:28] <jaco> i'll come back
[09:28] <Cindux> I select the .iso file to burn
[09:28] <Cindux> and it says
[09:28] <jaco> see u later
[09:28] <jaco> bye
[09:29] <Cindux> fuck
[09:29] <Cindux> :9
[09:29] <tong> better that I didn't said that I was holding my breath. :-)
[09:29] <apply> Is there a more specific hoary channel?
[09:29] <tong> bye jaco
[09:29] <TTilus> Chongo: try the other driver module
[09:29] <TTilus> Chongo: rmmod removes modules
[09:29] <TTilus> Chongo: sudo rmmod 8139pc
[09:29] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, I think somebody was having trouble with HL2 in Hoary yesterday... but youd have tp try
[09:29] <TTilus> Chongo: sudo modprobe 8139too
[09:30] <Zcalot> ok.
[09:30] <Zcalot> And is it goodfor a beginner?
[09:30] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, what?
[09:30] <Zcalot> ubuntu good for a beginner like me?
[09:31] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, yes
[09:31] <Zcalot> ok.
[09:31] <Zcalot> Is there any screen that i can look at? ;D
[09:31] <Zcalot> screens*
[09:31] <Zcalot> :)
[09:31] <Bwl> Anyone tried dmraid for ATARAID in 2.6?
[09:32] <Chongo> TTilus: ok
[09:32] <Quazor> ew
[09:32] <Cindux> bla
[09:32] <Zcalot> Another question.
[09:32] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, there are some on the web, somewhere..
[09:32] <Zcalot> Does it support my motherboard abit uguru?
[09:32] <nyxx> is there a graphic cdrecording app in the livecd that I'm completely missing? I see the commandline cdrecord is there but I need to burn some random files
[09:32] <felixdz> I am having trouble with skype
[09:32] <felixdz> The person on the other end is hearing my voice twice
[09:33] <Cindux> its an echo :D
[09:33] <Cindux> lo
[09:33] <mjr> nyxx, nautilus-cd-burner
[09:33] <Tuxicity> Cindux, Nero says bla?
[09:33] <Cindux> uh sorry
[09:33] <Cindux> An error msg is popping up
[09:33] <felixdz> Wrong the party on the other end hears herself twice
[09:33] <Cindux> but whenever I try to read it it seems to disspear
[09:33] <felixdz> Any ideas?
[09:34] <Chongo> TTilus: did a search for sit0 and it says 'sit stands for "simple internet transition" and is bassically a device
[09:34] <Chongo> capable of encapsulating ipv6 in ipv4 datagrams.'?
[09:34] <TTilus> Chongo: just to warn you, i might be idling in a while
[09:34] <Tuxicity> Cindux, Nero is a Linux app...
[09:34] <Cindux> ug
[09:34] <Tuxicity> Cindux, Nero is *NOT* a Linux app...
[09:34] <Cindux> Long story short I'm new to linxu sept for using 2-3 distros
[09:34] <TTilus> Chongo: ah, that explains a lot  :)
[09:34] <Cindux> I burn live cds from a windows PC
[09:34] <Cindux> with Nero.
[09:34] <Chongo> TTilus: k - well there was no error when i did the mod thing
[09:34] <TTilus> Chongo: some other module generates that, the previous wasnt working...  :)
[09:35] <Chongo> TTilus: ok
[09:35] <tong> ah, windows, I lost the interest.
[09:35] <Chongo> TTilus: so what do you recommend - should i remove the thing i put in the interfaces file?
[09:35] <TTilus> Chongo: afaik modules loaded without errors and showing in lsmod are working, but this wasn't... :-/
[09:35] <nyxx> mjr, thanks! Kinda odd it was absent from the menus but it's running now
[09:35] <Zcalot> Does it support my motherboard. abit uguru?
[09:35] <TTilus> Chongo: change it back to eth0
[09:36] <TTilus> Chongo: sit0 -> eth0
[09:36] <TTilus> then sudo rmmod 8139pc
[09:36] <TTilus> and so on
[09:36] <mjr> nyxx, it's available from all nautilus windows
[09:36] <tong> ubuntu gurus, I have a question.
[09:36] <TTilus> then check if module appears in lsmod and interface in /proc/net/dev
[09:37] <Cindux> The entered block size does not corrospond with the image length. The block size may be wrong, do you want to correct the problem.
[09:37] <Cindux> correct the value*
[09:37] <Chongo> TTilus: i already did that for that and did the other for 8139too
[09:37] <Guardiann> good afternoon fellows
[09:37] <tong> how do you feel about the ubuntu build on top of unstable debian?
[09:37] <Chongo> TTilus: should i remove 8139too
[09:37] <GammaRay1> would someone please ping <IP_ADDRESS> for me? I can't get through myself...
[09:37] <Chongo> TTilus: and reinstall 8139cp?
[09:37] <tong> I was hoping to find something that build on top of testing.
[09:38] <Tuxicity> Guardiann, hey:)
[09:38] <TTilus> Chongo: uh, no,
[09:38] <TTilus> Chongo: do you have 8139too loaded now?
[09:38] <Guardiann> host unreachable gammaray
[09:38] <Chongo> yeah
[09:38] <Cindux> Helps lol
[09:38] <Chongo> there were no errors when i modprobed it
[09:39] <GdCondor> does someone manage to install a bootsplash on warty ? i installed the kernel-patch, bootsplash and a splash and i reconfigure bootsplash but it seems not to create the initrd.splash....
[09:39] <Tuxicity> GammaRay1, Destination Host Unreachable
[09:39] <TTilus> Chongo: if, what do you get from lsmod and /proc/net/dev
[09:39] <TTilus> Chongo: sudo lsmod | grep 8139
[09:39] <Tuxicity> Cindux, this is a Nero-specific problem, cant help you
[09:39] <Cindux> = /
[09:39] <Cindux> :
[09:40] <Cindux> But this doesn't happen with any other .ISO file
[09:40] <Cindux> i've burned 4-5 other linux distros perfectly with nero
[09:40] <TTilus> Chongo: cat /proc/net/dev | awk '{print $1}'
[09:40] <Chongo> TTilus: erm, there's no eth0 there, its the same as before
[09:41] <Chongo> TTilus: lo is different
[09:41] <Hwolf> Can I tell openoffice presentor to print a bunch of slides with 6 slides on one page?
[09:41] <TTilus> Chongo: too bad
[09:41] <Chongo> TTilus: is it a problem with this driver not working with this card?
[09:41] <adapt> hey felixdz. i changed your password back to what it was
[09:42] <TTilus> Chongo: i would guess that yes, problem with driver
[09:43] <TTilus> Chongo: it says here http://www.danpex.com/faqs/drivers-linux.htm
[09:43] <TTilus> "Note:  Linux kernel 2.4 or above comes with driver module 'rtl8139.o'."
[09:43] <TTilus> but it apparently didn't
[09:43] <adapt> anyone running cs:source above a constant 30fps?
[09:44] <adapt> TTilus, why do you say that
[09:44] <zenrox> adapt,  i cant get nwn over 1 fps
[09:44] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, did you try any other Linux distro with that motherboard? if it worked then itll work on Ubuntu too..
[09:44] <adapt> zenrox, really? you have nvidia?
[09:44] <zenrox> nope i845g/gl vid card
[09:44] <adapt> zenrox, i can play at around 20-40, its playable, but not if your playing serious
[09:44] <adapt> zenrox, oh.. thats why then :)
[09:45] <zenrox> and i know it stpost to work but thares a prob with the i915 ed driver
[09:45] <zenrox> i played it on win 15-20 fps
[09:45] <adapt> oh.
[09:45] <adapt> well i play in win closer to 100
[09:45] <adapt> i know mine is supposed to run better, im just missing something
[09:45] <Chongo> TTilus: hmm, so what do you recommend i do? :-)
[09:45] <zenrox> so my vid card plays it just striped of all grafix stuff turned off
[09:45] <Tuxicity> Zcalot, cause Ubuntu has good hardware support (just for your info)
[09:46] <zenrox> adapt,  tho i am going to have to get a nvida card pci
[09:46] <zenrox> 120 bucks localy for me to buy it
[09:46] <adapt> for a pci?
[09:46] <zenrox> yep
[09:46] <adapt> pci-expresS?
[09:46] <zenrox> no agp in my mobo
[09:46] <zenrox> no pci-express
[09:46] <zenrox> either
[09:47] <adapt> spend your money on a new mobo :)
[09:47] <TTilus> Chongo: back to considering the bus
[09:47] <zenrox> no
[09:47] <zenrox> adapt,  its a good mobo
[09:47] <adapt> with no agp or pci-x?
[09:47] <zenrox> and adapt me being broke all the time dont help
[09:47] <adapt> hehe
[09:47] <TTilus> Chongo: sudo dpkg -l \*pcmcia\*
[09:47] <adapt> i understand that
[09:47] <zenrox> adapt,  its a fic-i845g/gl mobo
[09:47] <TTilus> Chongo: that lists packages with pcmcia in their name
[09:48] <zenrox> so that means the agp is thare just no socket sodered to the board
[09:48] <TTilus> Chongo: i think you should have pcmcia-modules or something like that installed
[09:48] <TTilus> Chongo: ie. having "ii" in front of it
[09:49] <Chongo> err it doesn't like the -1 in the command line
[09:49] <Hwolf> GDAMNIT
[09:49] <Tuxicity> Will a USB 2.0 device work on a motherboard with only USB 1.1/1.0 support(at a lower speed of course)?
[09:49] <TTilus> Chongo: its letter L, not number one
[09:49] <Hwolf> I need to print a pdf file, but xpdf doesn't print it, nor does the postscriptviewer
[09:49] <zenrox> Tuxicity,  technaly yes
[09:50] <TTilus> Chongo: -l stands for listing
[09:50] <Tuxicity> zenrox, "technicaly"?
[09:50] <Hwolf> Someone name me a good app that can open PDF
[09:50] <zeedo> xpdf
[09:50] <Simira> xpdf
[09:50] <Tuxicity> Hwolf, xpdf
[09:50] <zeedo> gpdf
[09:50] <Cindux> Adobe Acrobat
[09:51] <jatos> hello
[09:51] <Cindux> lol
[09:51] <Hwolf> NOT xpdf