[04:27] <predator_x> yes installed opera
[04:27] <predator_x> same problem
[04:28] <jazz> im using firefox 3.5.7 im all good here except when connection bogs out
[04:28] <ziggz> fuck linux is so cool but it makes me feel dumb....i was the man with windows
[04:28] <nightsjammies> so does anyone in here have an ipod touch?
[04:28] <predator_x> @ ziggz..same here
[04:28] <predator_x> yes i have
[04:28] <happyface0> How can I remove the (auto login?) default keyring password unlock?
[04:28] <jazz> Ziggz i agree
[04:28] <nightsjammies> how do I put music on the darn thing?
[04:28] <switchgirl> youtube videos wont play, nore redtube, nor iplayer whats wrong with flash for firefox in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx ?
[04:29] <predator_x> @ switchgirl, i think its due to plugins
[04:29] <kad__> hey need help i install windows xp then Ubuntu, but XP not display when it boot i try to go to live CD: sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 (where /dev/sda1 = win xp) but not work :(  i try /dev/sda5 (where /dev/sda5 = ubuntu give me : http://pastebin.com/m1195282e ) can someone help me :( thx alot
[04:29] <Jeruvy> !lucid | switchgirl
[04:29] <evon> predator_x: you try connecting the computer with the ethernet cord?
[04:29] <ice__man> ziggz : don"t tell this man ;-)
[04:29] <socomm> switchgirl: does flash work at all?
[04:29] <predator_x> i have wireless
[04:29] <predator_x> yeah i shld try that
[04:29] <ziggz> i will not give up
[04:29] <predator_x> @ ziggz..thts the spirit
[04:29] <Guest42587> hai guys
[04:29] <socomm> ziggz: whats the problem you're having?
[04:30] <switchgirl> not a jotter socomm
[04:30] <ziggz> compiz kicks azz
[04:30] <socomm> Guest42587: hai2u
[04:30] <socomm> switchgirl: and it is installed, corect?
[04:30] <ziggz> im trying get my sd card reader to work
[04:30] <switchgirl> yeas flash installed correctly
[04:30] <jazz> lol i jumped in linux feet firstm was fine till the vol prob..
[04:30] <sebsebseb> ziggz: try not to swear here, and there are websites for learning commands, also for basics commands aren't really needed,  however it's quicker sudo apt-get install program instead of using graphical programs to install stuff
[04:30] <socomm> switchgirl: have you tried filing a bug?
[04:31] <switchgirl> Jeruvy, if they where alive sure
[04:31] <predator_x> switchgirl.. trying disabling unwanted plugins in firefox.. i had the problem of videos not streaming
[04:31] <ziggz> i am a 24 year old man who just got in trouble for say the f word
[04:31] <pcmagic> backup suite filled up my drive for some reason I didn't have it setup to backup on hard drive on another drive I am not sure if it was backup suites fault but it filled my drive completely
[04:31] <happyface0> I wish flash for linux didnt suck so much :(
[04:31] <pcmagic> :/
[04:31] <predator_x> @ ziggz..chill
[04:31] <ziggz> sorry
[04:32] <pcmagic> I have used parted magic to free up some space
[04:32] <sebsebseb> even though Flash is an issue on Karmic as well,  really switchgirl  should be in #ubuntu+1 and anyone else that wants to help her
[04:32] <pcmagic> what would have taken up so much space?
[04:32] <socomm> flash works fine on karmic, for me at least
[04:32] <pcmagic> how does flash not work?
[04:32] <pcmagic> flash works fine
[04:32] <sebsebseb> sometimes Flash goes wrong in Firefox on Ubuntu
[04:32] <socomm> pcmagic: media files (audio, video, image)
[04:33] <LinUx> How do I format a 500GB HDD in NTFS useing GParted on Ubuntu 9.10 please?
[04:33] <ziggz> cant somebody please type down instructions in paste bin for me and give me the link
[04:33] <predator_x> cooool i have vlc finally :) @ thanks to archoille
[04:33] <judibeefl> I just got an error when trying to use Package Manager :
[04:33] <ardchoille> predator_x: \o/
[04:33] <pcmagic> just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras switchgirl
[04:33] <socomm> LinUx: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-reformat-an-external-hard-drive-to-ntfs-format-in-ubuntu-hardy/2008/09/29
[04:34] <socomm> !pastebin
[04:34] <ziggz> ice man thank you but  its hard to follow when the room is steady moviing
[04:34] <nightsjammies> Anyways, I've got a newer ipod touch with the 3.1 os. I can't get ifuse to work with it..'
[04:34] <switchgirl> pcmagic, i have donethat 4 months ago :)
[04:34] <pcmagic> do alt+f2 then type gnome-terminal press enter then type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras press enter then enter in password wait for it to complete download and installation
[04:34] <socomm> nightsjammies: don't expect ipods to work too well, or at all, on Open Source systems
[04:34] <jazz> how can i navigate  to a folder in my home?
[04:35] <LinUx> socomm, Thank you, I'll check it out!
[04:35] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: i'll try and help you a bit, but in the correct channel :D
[04:35] <ardchoille> jazz: cd ~/foldername
[04:35] <judibeefl> Switchgirl what are you trying to do?
[04:35] <pcmagic> well not sure what site are you having a flash issue? switchgirl
[04:35] <nightsjammies> Okay. I'm installing Virtualbox right now to run itunes through :)
[04:35] <jazz> ardchoille,  thanks
[04:35] <pcmagic> perhaps you need the latest version of flash
[04:35] <socomm> nightsjammies: good luck, might be hard for your VM to access your USB ... never tried it myself
[04:35] <socomm> nightsjammies: not to say, that it wont work though
[04:36] <predator_x> is there any messenger software other than pidgin? sometimes it doesnt seem to login in msn & yahoo
[04:36] <pcmagic> virtualbox is fine with detecting usb devices
[04:36] <switchgirl> redtube youtube and iplayer pcmagic
[04:36] <nightsjammies> Oh shoot. I forgot all about that part..damnit.
[04:36] <ardchoille> jazz:  http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/command-line-cheatsheet.html
[04:36] <socomm> predator_x: tons of it just search the web
[04:36] <pcmagic> hmm
[04:36] <switchgirl> ok sebsebseb
[04:36] <predator_x> okie
[04:36] <jazz> ardchoille,  im trying to give gnomenu  a go, so i should so make install cd~/foldername
[04:37] <nightsjammies> well, I'll try it out anyway..
[04:37] <jazz> 2 points for misspelling
[04:37] <helper> hey need help i instal win xp then install ubuntu after restart win xp not display on boot, someone told me install grub2 when i install grub2 give me this error : http://pastebin.com/m5b18cacf => how i can fix it ? i try to sudo grub-install /dev/sda5 (where sda5 = ubuntu ) but don't work too :(
[04:37] <socomm> nightsjammies: yeah, give it a shot
[04:37] <ardchoille> jazz: That's the hard way, there is a PPA for gnomeneu
[04:37] <jazz> ardchoille,  really?
[04:37] <ardchoille> jazz: search for gnomenu here:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[04:37] <socomm> helper: what are you trying to do?
[04:38] <helper> socomm,  i want to boot with xp too
[04:38] <nightsjammies> I plan on it...I just want some damn music on it.
[04:38] <nightsjammies> What do you use to sync yours?
[04:38] <jazz> thanks
[04:38] <pcmagic> hold on switchgirl
[04:38] <pcmagic> brb
[04:38] <happyface0> is there a way to auto start in terminal when opening a specific file?
[04:38] <socomm> helper: not sure how good you are with computers but you may wanna try a utility called GAG
[04:38] <ardchoille> jazz: This one's the best:  https://launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa
[04:39] <socomm> helper: http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[04:39] <helper> socomm,  for what ? can't fix with "gurb" ?
[04:39] <socomm> helper: pretty cool little util
[04:39] <LinUx> socomm, How simple was that! :-) Thankyou!!
[04:39] <socomm> helper: grub might be too complex/intimidating for beginners
[04:40] <helper> socomm,  i install it.
[04:40] <socomm> helper: but if you feel brave try googling grub ubuntu xp dual boot
[04:40] <predator_x> i will never go back to windows!
[04:40] <ardchoille> predator_x: That's the spirit!
[04:40] <Drunken_Irony> w00t!
[04:41] <Drunken_Irony> that is the spirit
[04:41] <helper> socomm, before it was work with ubuntu 9.0 i just enter: sudo grub the root (hd0,1), then setup (hd0), when this ubuntu 9 come with new grub  make me mad!! don't work like before
[04:41] <jazz> the first one didnt have anything to click  how ever i do have it installed already and according to youtube cids i just gotta make install
[04:41] <stevenfgsdfg> How do I view syslog from CLI and how do I open syslog on Desktop from CLI?
[04:41] <ardchoille> jazz: no, you don't have it installed yet if you haven't done make install. Make install installs it, what you did was compile it
[04:41] <judibeefl> anyone know how to get VMAdditions for 10.04?
[04:41] <precrack> ;o
[04:41] <socomm> helper: hold on
[04:42] <ardchoille> jazz: Also, it's easier to update it if you use a PPA
[04:42] <helper> socomm,  give me error on: /boot/grub/device.map it's wrong :
[04:42] <jazz> ardchoille,  is there a difference in globalmenu and or gnomenu?
[04:43] <ardchoille> jazz: What exactly are you looking for? the menu that displays menus in the panel? or the special menu the reorganizes Applications, Places, System ?
[04:43] <Justin_``> Whats the link for installing java?
[04:44] <Blue1> !jave
[04:44] <Blue1> !java
[04:44] <socomm> helper: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/switching/dualboot-custom.html
[04:44] <Justin_``> !Multiverse repository
[04:44] <jazz> i was watching youtube gnomemenu with the different icons and vista , xp, and differnt menus- thought id see what the fuss is about
[04:44] <ardchoille> jazz: I may have given you the wrong link, if so I am sorry
[04:44] <jazz> ardchoille,  what was it you gave me?
[04:44] <ardchoille> jazz: ah, yes, that is gnomenu, not global menu
[04:45] <helper> socomm,  ya this is old grub which i used to make it now there's no menu.lst ,there's grub.cfg instead :(
[04:45] <ardchoille> jazz: I gave you the search link and the link to globalmenu, don't use the globalmenu link I gave you
[04:45] <jazz> im new to linux so  im looking at all kinds of things before 10.4 lts comes out
[04:45] <hippiehacker> Trying to dim the backlight brightness on iMac10,1 with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670 / 21.5". The default is insanely bright. Tried aticonfig --set-dispattrib=lvds,brightness:-60 but thats not backlight control...
[04:45] <ardchoille> jazz: hold on a sec
[04:46] <jazz> ardchoille,  sure..
[04:46] <ardchoille> jazz: I found a gnomenu link:  https://launchpad.net/gnomenu
[04:48] <jazz> aedyeah thats what i downloaded and  got to where i needed to make install but didnt know how to navigate to the file
[04:48] <jazz> ardchoille,  is there a ppa for that link?
[04:48] <ardchoille> jazz:  You should bookmark this page, it'll help in the long run:  http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/command-line-cheatsheet.html
[04:48] <Ganang> how can i completely remove openjdk from ubuntu and install the official jdk from sun through the apt?
[04:48] <ardchoille> jazz: Let me look
[04:49] <ASUSeeePC> Hello
[04:49] <ASUSeeePC> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix
[04:49] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know if gparted can resize win7 partitions safely?
[04:49] <jazz> ardchoille,  ooo "bookmarked" thanks!
[04:50] <ASUSeeePC> I'm booted into it Ok (from a USB Memory Stick), tried lauching the install, only got to the Timezone part, then it died on me - system hung up / rebooted
[04:50] <Justin_``> WHy am I getting a error - "couldn't find package openjdk-6-jre-headless
[04:50] <ASUSeeePC> So I try to restart it, but clicking the icon it says 'starting...' but setup doesn't come up :(
[04:50] <ardchoille> jazz: I don't see a PPA but I do see downloads here: https://launchpad.net/gnomenu/trunk
[04:50] <ASUSeeePC> Can I launch setup from the terminal in verbose mode or something, or include a switch to restart setup - not sure if it's hung up on something ??
[04:51] <jazz> ardchoille,  i did  that i gave a folder named eyecandy with some emerald themes in there and  gnomenu in there as well,
[04:51] <paissad> when we remove a  repository from sources.list, how can we remove the related repository from  /var/lib/apt/lists/ using an apt comman like ( in order not to use rm command ^^ )
[04:52] <jazz> ardchoille,  i just didnt know how to navigage to a file withing the file thats in the home folder
[04:52] <paissad> i see that the related repository contains some files into /var/lib/apt/lists/ , Packages.gz , Contents & release files
[04:52] <jazz> ard what is "foo"? i see a comand sudo aptitude install foo?
[04:53] <ardchoille> !foo
[04:53] <jazz> form the link you gave me
[04:53] <gtn> et
[04:53] <ardchoille> Thanks ubottu
[04:53] <keeleyt83> I'm having an issue with my java installation. Could anyone help me?
[04:53] <judibeefl> I had update errors tonight
[04:53] <ardchoille> jazz: "foo" is like a generic term: "ls foo", "man foo", etc
[04:53] <hippiehacker> racking my head on this backlight issue
[04:54] <ASUSeeePC> foo as in foobar as in fubar, as in f*cked up beyond all recognition
[04:54] <keeleyt83> it's strange. my JAVA_HOME is set somewhere but I don't know where
[04:54] <drew31> paissad  I tend to use synaptic to add/software software and add/remove repositories, and not mess with remove .
[04:54] <jazz> ardchoille,  thanks for the cheatsheet
[04:55] <ardchoille> jazz: you're welcome, pass it along :)
[04:55] <judibeefl> ASU, lol :>
[04:55] <saraqual> Guys, I've installed postfix this side for smtp purposes, but for some odd reason when I point evolution to <IP_ADDRESS> it gives me the finger.  Any ideas why? Says connection was refused
[04:55] <uorygl_> I have an Ethernet port. Can I configure Ubuntu to present an interface over this port?
[04:56] <jrcarr2> how do I recursively search a dir for a filetype?
[04:56] <jrcarr2> like *.png?
[04:56] <uorygl_> I'd like to connect a network device to this port and have this network device be assigned an IP address.
[04:56] <yokobr> hey guys, new issue
[04:56] <yokobr> none of my usb devices are working
[04:56] <judibeefl> where do i  get VMAdditions for Ubuntu 10.04
[04:56] <ardchoille> jrcarr2: find /path -name *.png
[04:56] <yokobr> when i plug my webcam i get " hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 10"
[04:58] <Myrtti> !lucid | judibeefl
[04:58] <tucemiux> !dontzap
[04:59] <Kyletstrand> question: i'm new to ubuntu and i have been curious about virus issues.  is there a problem with viruses in ubuntu or linux in general.  i've been on for about two months or so and haven't even acquired viruses, spyware or malware of anysort.
[04:59] <ASUSeeePC> trying to restart a failed install, but setup won't re-launch, what's the command so I can run it from terminal?
[04:59] <tony121> hi for all
[04:59] <ardchoille> kyleN: you do't usually have to worry about those things, but still good to be careful what you download and run from untrusted sources
[04:59] <ardchoille> Kyletstrand:  you do't usually have to worry about those things, but still good to be careful what you download and run from untrusted sources
[05:00] <Out_Cold> i wish i had a remote root shell :o/
[05:00] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: you could rent/buy one
[05:00] <Kyletstrand> ardochoille: that's what i was thinking.  i'm always pretty careful about who and what i download, but i feel a whole lot safer on linux than i did on any windows OS. Thanks!
[05:00] <JulieJulie> I'm wondering if 512mb of ram is too little to run Ubuntu 9.10?
[05:00] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, i should.. but they don't let me play with CCs
[05:01] <rww> ubottu: viruses | Kyletstrand
[05:01] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: or set one up at a friend's house and not tell them lol
[05:01] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, it should be fine... just not super fast
[05:01] <rww> ubottu: virus | Kyletstrand
[05:01] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, i always ask for permission ;)
[05:01] <ardchoille> Kyletstrand: Read this:  http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/02/linux-and-viruses.html
[05:01] <uorygl_> Can I tell what to put in /etc/network/interfaces by the output of ifconfig?
[05:01] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold, so the some what feeling of stammering when opening and closing is normal for 512mb? heh I even made the appearance properties with no effects
[05:01] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, may i have root access??
[05:02] <tony121> windows is the best
[05:02] <ardchoille> tony121: Please take that elsewhere
[05:02] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, it's not fast... if you switched to a  window manager you would notice improvement but less graphical eye candy
[05:03] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: sure, on a virtual machine using someone else's wifi :P
[05:03] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  How would I do that?
[05:03] <jrcarr2> tony121, I agree. I like linux, but windows integrates with everything better
[05:03] <jrcarr2> I mean come on! Why is it so complicated to just slam my laptop on and off a docking station and have it just work?
[05:03] <ardchoille> Perhaps we should take the Windows chat to another channel?
[05:03] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, you can install dummy packages such as xubuntu-desktop (cant remember exact name)
[05:03] <blakkheim> jrcarr2: which part of your docking station doesn't work with linux
[05:03] <tony121> jes i mean just like u jrcarr2
[05:03] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, i'll find for you
[05:03] <predator_x> is website not loading quickly maybe due to poor connection? i have like 70%
[05:04] <gtn> i wish linux had a monolithic kernel
[05:04] <jrcarr2> blakkheim, for reasons that elude me, it never comes back when i remove it from the docking station unless I reboot
[05:04] <uorygl_> Hmm. When I use ifconfig to set an interface to be pointopoint, shouldn't that result in the remote device having an IP address I can see somewhere?
[05:04] <ASUSeeePC> Need help with install on my netbook - anyone know how to start the install from a terminal or restart it?
[05:04] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, yes sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <uorygl_> I'm trying to connect to my modem. Literally; it has an embedded web server.
[05:05] <blakkheim> ASUSeeePC: are you using like unetbootin or something
[05:05] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, there are many managers to try that use low resources
[05:05] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  thats what I would type in the command line?
[05:05] <jrcarr2> but of course that's my only nitpick. it annoys me because I PREFER to work in linux rather than on windows
[05:05] <Out_Cold> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:05] <blakkheim> xubuntu/xfce is still pretty bloated
[05:05] <blakkheim> not going  to make a huge difference
[05:06] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, you can get ones that look like windows 3.1 that are really light
[05:06] <ardchoille> JulieJulie: You could try fluxbox or window maker, they're more lean than xfce
[05:06] <jrcarr2> just run kde2
[05:06] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold, lol ah I dont want to look at something that is not as pretty lol
[05:06] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  I know sounds vain lol.
[05:07] <JulieJulie> ardchoille,  thanks! Ill look into that
[05:07] <jrcarr2> you know, I remember being awestruck by Enlightment 0.17 back in the day
[05:07] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, other than a background pic, the rest is really just windows that you can color and menus
[05:07] <jrcarr2> it ran on my 233Mhz pc... so shouldnt be a problem
[05:07] <keeleyt83> could anyone help me with a jvm issue?
[05:07] <jrcarr2> keeleyt83, sure
[05:07] <jrcarr2> whats wrong?
[05:07] <keeleyt83> :)
[05:08] <drew31> JulieJulie: Xubuntu works well with 512.
[05:08] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold, drew31, if I install xubuntu now will I still have everything I have now?
[05:08] <jhb1608> Hello.
[05:08] <keeleyt83> ok, my JAVA_HOME variable points to a java installation that no longer exists
[05:08] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, yes
[05:09] <JulieJulie> ooh fancy I will do that now, if I dont like I can always upgrade back right?
[05:09] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, plus a bunch more apps that come with the xubuntu package
[05:09] <JulieJulie> really
[05:09] <jhb1608> I have a important question, I have a old 700MHz eMac G4, which ISO I should download?
[05:09] <keeleyt83> and I can't find where to change it. i have tried adding a JAVA HOME to the bash file and another entry in an environment file and it hasn't worked
[05:09] <Out_Cold> jhb1608, check the hardware site..
[05:09] <Out_Cold> !hardware
[05:09] <keeleyt83> i imagine the variable is being set somewhere but can't find where
[05:10] <drew31> Xubuntu runs the xfce4 desktop, which is 'lighter' than gnome and meaning it is a bit easier on memory use. JulieJulie
[05:10] <jrcarr2> oh JAVA_HOME?
[05:10] <keeleyt83> yeah
[05:10] <Boogahboo> My god...Java...
[05:10] <jrcarr2> I fixed that before... hold on
[05:10] <jrcarr2> Boogahboo, boohoo
[05:10] <Boogahboo> jrcarr2: no, boogahboo. it has "gah" in the middle.
[05:10] <jrcarr2> keeleyt83, you might need to update-alternatives
[05:10] <jhb1608> Not Found, Error 404
[05:10] <jhb1608> The page you are looking for no longer exists.
[05:11] <keeleyt83> tried that, but no dice
[05:11] <tucemiux> is it possible to run tor with kubuntu as the guest machine? I keep getting the error: The proxy server is refusing connections
[05:11] <JulieJulie> drew31, I am just getting into all this now heh its helpful that you are explaining this perhaps there is a site that I could read more up on the differences and what not?
[05:11] <jrcarr2> let me check my configs... I think I had to manually override it
[05:11] <keeleyt83> maybe i didn't do it right? ill try again
[05:11] <jhb1608> I tried finding supported harrdware but got error 404
[05:11] <keeleyt83> "update-alternatives --config java"
[05:12] <jrcarr2> keeleyt83, I had this issue alot because of maven
[05:12] <jazz> anyone follow 2600?
[05:12] <keeleyt83> ic
[05:12] <Boogahboo> I r bringin teh sexy back.
[05:12] <Out_Cold> jhb1608, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport that site works
[05:12] <keeleyt83> im trying to run jedit. new version came out :) it uses the JAVA_HOME in the startup script
[05:12] <tucemiux> !ot | Boogahboo
[05:13] <jrcarr2> keeleyt83, afaik, update-alternatives doesnt update JAVA_HOME right...
[05:13] <jhb1608> Out_Cold, it don't work in my side
[05:13] <jrcarr2> hold on
[05:13] <keeleyt83> k
[05:13] <Boogahboo> tucemiux: Hokay, going thurr then
[05:13] <jhb1608> hold on then
[05:13] <Out_Cold> jhb1608, i'd refresh then?
[05:13] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  thanks for the help I am going to see how it goes now heh
[05:13] <tony121> bye for all
[05:13] <jhb1608> oh works had to copy and paste
[05:13] <jhb1608> :)
[05:13] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, you know how to change it?
[05:14] <keeleyt83> i tried most things here. they talked about java-alternative: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9221.html
[05:14] <Boogahboo> fack, need to ID. no fun.
[05:14] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  lol Im sorry change what?  like over to xubuntu?
[05:14] <Out_Cold> yes to the xfce manager
[05:14] <drew31> JulieJulie I don't have one handy, the desktop and file manager are intergrated in gnome and in the KDE desktop, making them use more memory. Xfce is simply a less demanding dessktop and it is part or the Xubuntu version of Ubuntu.
[05:14] <jhb1608> wow
[05:14] <jhb1608> only 6.06 works with my old eMac?
[05:14] <jhb1608> o.o;
[05:15] <jhb1608> I cal it crazy.
[05:15] <jrcarr2> keeleyt83, try this maybe? sudo bash -c "echo JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/ >> /etc/environment"
[05:15] <jhb1608> call*
[05:15] <Out_Cold> jhb1608, and there is no support for that stuff
[05:15] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  not a clue I thought I was supposed just type that into command line?
[05:15] <jhb1608> Then Yellow Dog Linux will be only way
[05:15] <jhb1608> goodl uck then
[05:15] <Coachj> should the Medibuntu repo be added to a new install of Ubuntu 9.10?
[05:15] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, after it's installed, you log out and change your session
[05:16] <keeleyt83> jrcarr2, comes back empty. i dont have it set in the environment or in the bash settings file
[05:16] <keeleyt83> :) sry i think i misunderstood
[05:17] <keeleyt83> nm. still get an error. what does that cmd do?
[05:17] <jrcarr2> adds it to your etc/environment file
[05:17] <PostingBear> can anyone boot me some listerine?
[05:17] <jrcarr2> best I can think of
[05:17] <jrcarr2> sheesh
[05:17] <keeleyt83> i tried adding it there and to the bash. no luck. hrm...
[05:17] <keeleyt83> its like it is set somewhere
[05:17] <PostingBear> the white man wont sell me his minty fire
[05:17] <voss749> coach, why not?
[05:17] <jrcarr2> keeleyt83, yeah
[05:18] <Out_Cold> !ot | PostingBear
[05:18] <keeleyt83> whenever i say echo JAVA_HOME in a console, it returns a value
[05:18] <jrcarr2> the problem is, I'm on a laptop where I didnt have that problem... my other laptop I fixed it on is somewhere else :(
[05:18] <keeleyt83> where would that be set at?
[05:18] <jrcarr2> profile?
[05:18] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold, I will see how it goes thanks!!
[05:18] <keeleyt83> where would i look for that?
[05:18] <upd> is the monitor resolution like 1024x768 like x,y cordinates ?
[05:18] <jrcarr2> ~/.profile
[05:18] <keeleyt83> k
[05:18] <keeleyt83> lemme see
[05:19] <mkquist> anyone know if gparted can safely resize a win7 partition?
[05:19] <PostingBear> false.
[05:20] <Out_Cold> can someone tell me the name of the desktop menu on the UNR?
[05:21] <keeleyt83> it was in there :-[, jcarr2. must have set that a while back. i guess i have to log back in to see a change
[05:21] <keeleyt83> thanks for your help, jrcarr2
[05:23] <robs227> Hi I was wondering if anyone knows if the closed via video driver support tv-out openchrome doesn't do the job
[05:23] <robs227> ?
[05:23] <ezrafree> hello
[05:23] <robs227> ive heard vias drivers a joke
[05:23] <robs227> hi ezrafree
[05:24] <ezrafree> anyone know how i could get rid of the choice to boot into my old kernel version in grub?
[05:24] <blakkheim> ezrafree: get rid of the old kernels, update grub's menu
[05:24] <PostingBear> sacrifice tobacco to the metal buzzing box god
[05:25] <robs227> edit grub.conf I believe
[05:25] <robs227> anyone know anything about VIA video drivers?
[05:25] <Myrtti> PostingBear: stick to the topic, please
[05:26] <jimisrvrox> If anybody has a minute I would appreciate some help with my rt2500 that is showing device not managed. I went to nm settings and changed the ifupdown=false to true and restarted nm-applet but it did nothing.
[05:28] <ravic> !by chiruvol
[05:28] <ezrafree> "sudo locate grub.conf" pulls up no returns...
[05:29] <ezrafree> did an updatedb first as well
[05:29] <bazhang> ezrafree, grub2?
[05:29] <robs227> well perhaps someone could point me to a link on how to install closed drivers from the terminal?
[05:29] <ezrafree> bazhang: not sure, this is ubuntu 9.10 if that helps
[05:29] <robs227> i can't seem to find a decent guide
[05:30] <blakkheim> rofl
[05:30] <bazhang> ezrafree, was it fresh installed or upgraded, and if the latter did you choose the maintainers version ie grub2  sudo update-grub should work if so  /msg ubottu grub2 for the wiki link
[05:31] <ezrafree> fresh install here
[05:31] <bazhang> then check the wiki, that command should do it
[05:31] <ezrafree> ahh yes, update-grub seems like it works cool
[05:32] <robs227> I think maybe you want to look for menu.lst instead of grub.conf
[05:32] <bazhang> robs227, not for grub2, and never want to directly edit the new grub config file
[05:33] <robs227> I guess that makes sense.
[05:33] <robs227> im just getting into gentoo, editing grub.conf is what I would do there, thought it might be the same
[05:34] <robs227> but i do need advice on installing closed via drivers though, are they in the repositories for ubuntu?
[05:35] <robs227> how do I search the repositories using the terminal. I am building a carputer with linuxICE (ubuntu based) and can only use terminal
[05:35] <Ox0000> Is there any tool to tag files on linux, so that one can do tag-based search?!
[05:37] <Out_Cold> robs227, aptitude would be handy
[05:38] <judibeefl> my firefox wll not launch :/
[05:39] <charles__> is there anyone around who is familiar enough with Pidgin to perhaps help me dagnose a problem i am having connecting to facebook chat?
[05:39] <blakkheim> charles__: /join #pidgin
[05:39] <charles__> thank you :)
[05:39] <blakkheim> robs227: aptitude search $string
[05:40] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, what if you have no $string?
[05:40] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: you're supposed to replace that with the term you want to search for.. :/
[05:40] <robs227> okay ill try that
[05:40] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, but does it search inside descriptions?
[05:41] <robs227> thanks
[05:41] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: try it yourself
[05:41] <Out_Cold> make me open a terminal :/
[05:41] <mikedep333> hey, is anyone else havinng trouble accessing ubuntu one?
[05:41] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: $ aptitude search rss | wc -l
[05:41] <blakkheim> 37
[05:42] <Out_Cold> cool.. i always just used the curses
[05:42] <freeride> please help, how to apt-get install with no deps?
[05:43] <blakkheim> freeride: man apt-get
[05:43] <jimisrvrox> If anybody has a minute I would appreciate some help with my rt2500 that is showing device not managed. I went to nm settings and changed the ifupdown=false to true and restarted nm-applet but it did nothing.
[05:43] <freeride> blakkheim didn't find there
[05:43] <mikedep333> can anyone test if they can (re)connect to ubuntu one?
[05:44] <Myrtti> !ubuntuone
[05:44] <judibeefl> what is unbuntu one?
[05:44] <mikedep333> Myritti yes. I just went there! neither the ttop nor the app login works
[05:44] <Myrtti> how about #ubuntuone, mikedep333
[05:44] <mikedep333> *the http nor
[05:45] <mikedep333> Myrtti, oh, thanks
[05:45] <z3a> ubuntu one wrx for me
[05:46] <ubuntu> hi people
[05:46] <ubuntu> i need a little help
[05:46] <blakkheim> !away > lordmortis|away
[05:46] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, amazing how many ways you can get something done
[05:46] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: this is true
[05:47] <ubuntu> um..... i need to sort out the 'error 15' in grub during start up
[05:47] <ubuntu> how do i do it?
[05:47] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold, I switched over
[05:47] <ubuntu> i have been searching about google... but am not a experienced user to understand what to do
[05:47] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  it seems a lot more fluid
[05:47] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, amazing how many ways you can get something done
[05:47] <Out_Cold> oops..
[05:48] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: you just said that dude
[05:48] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, and how do you like it?
[05:48] <blakkheim> :P
[05:48] <Out_Cold> hit up  accidentally
[05:48] <rumpsy> having /boot is the safest method
[05:48] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  I really don't mind it
[05:48] <ubuntu> does anyone know what i can do?????
[05:49] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  it still seems like ubuntu to me nothing really changed except maybe its more straight lines than rounded out lines
[05:49] <tavo-mc> excuse me I need some help with hardware related topic
[05:49] <tavo-mc> it's about my ram ddr
[05:50] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, you know which version of grub??
[05:50] <blakkheim> tavo-mc: you might want to /join #hardware
[05:50] <ubuntu> i don't konw Out_Cold
[05:50] <tavo-mc> thanks a lot blakkheim :D
[05:50] <ubuntu> but i can do waht you tell me to do.... whatever i have to type in the terminal
[05:50] <_710m> hello, when I unplug my AC from my Dell 710m, the computer goes straight to sleep and goes back to sleep when I wake up, which takes two presses of the power button to turn on
[05:50] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, should say at start up
[05:51] <ubuntu> i am running in live CD.. if i start up again... it will be another 15 mins :(
[05:51] <ubuntu> isn't there any other way?
[05:51] <blakkheim> ubuntu: if starting from the livecd takes 15 minutes i think you might want to consider a hardware upgrade bro
[05:51] <ubuntu> yes.... i am ready for that mentally.. not financially
[05:52] <tony__> ciao
[05:52] <blakkheim> ubuntu: specs?
[05:52] <tony__> !list
[05:52] <ubuntu> my finances right now are very bad.. and thanks to windows and a bad motherbaord purchase, even my good one year old harddisk went bad!
[05:52] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  the way that I installed xubuntu, ubuntu from before is still taking up space on my hd?
[05:52] <blakkheim> JulieJulie: yes
[05:53] <JulieJulie> blakkheim,  so if I wanted to gain that space back I can just make a boot cd of xubuntu and reformat the drive and start from scratch to gain the space back?
[05:53] <blakkheim> JulieJulie: that's certainly one way of doing it, yes
[05:53] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, yes and no... it's lots of little packages that take up that space
[05:53] <ubuntu> blakkheim: AMD X2 3GHz proc, an old IDE 250 GB HDD, 2 GB RAM kingston is all fine I think. It is the motherboard that has been bad: BioStar 740G
[05:53] <JulieJulie> blakkheim,  is there a better way of doing?
[05:54] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: i wouldn't call gnome + ubuntu bloatware "little packages"
[05:54] <blakkheim> ubuntu: sounds ok to me, not sure why it takes so long to use the cd
[05:54] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  i only have 40gbs heh so I try to utalize as much as I can
[05:54] <blakkheim> JulieJulie: i would do what you were planning (although i would use a minimal iso instead of the full one)
[05:54] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, well much smaller than the whole
[05:55] <JulieJulie> a minimal iso?
[05:55] <blakkheim> !mini | JulieJulie
[05:55] <ubuntu> but either ways.... i will change the motherboard soon as i have soem money. right now is starting up all over again, then booting again in live CD, then installing chatzila the only option for me? or can I type someting in the terminal or searchthrough the installation folder??
[05:55] <jazz> ardchoille,  u still around?
[05:55] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, after you install the minimal you just type "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <JulieJulie> oh like before?
[05:55] <blakkheim> or.. use something less bloated
[05:56] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  what is the difference from the normal iso that i've downloaded compared to this minimal?
[05:56] <Out_Cold> yes but from only a cli... no desktop yet
[05:57] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, a minimal would be without gnome... no bloat
[05:57] <jrcarr2> java... java java java :)
[05:57] <ubuntu> ok then... i have no other option, I wil restart and write down the grub version. anythign else i should do before coming into live CD blakkheim ?
[05:58] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, and only 1/4 of the download time ;)
[05:58] <predator_x> hi .. i want to get poker ...where can i find it? any idea?
[05:58] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, what version is installed??
[05:58] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  and what is on my pc now is with or without gnome? lol
[05:58] <blakkheim> ubuntu: you don't have to do all that just to find the grub version lol, if it's 9.10 it's grub2, if it's earlier it's not
[05:58] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  what a lovely wink lol
[05:58] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, with gnome AND xfce
[05:58] <ubuntu> well... it's 9.10
[05:58] <ubuntu> :-/
[05:58] <nightsjammies> where do I d/l the virtualbox puel edition?
[05:58] <blakkheim> ubuntu: then it's grub2
[05:58] <ubuntu> yes it is
[05:59] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  lol so will it look the same?
[05:59] <ubuntu> i thought that number was too silly to say
[05:59] <ubuntu> so i kept quit
[05:59] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, grub2... but i don't know grub2 at all
[05:59] <ubuntu> quite*
[05:59] <Out_Cold> JulieJulie, after you install the minimal, and the xubuntu-desktop it will be just like now...
[05:59] <JulieJulie> Out_Cold,  thank you very much for your patiences :)
[05:59] <ubuntu> so what do i do now?
[06:00] <ardchoille> jazz: I am
[06:00] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, here is a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Err15
[06:01] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, that may even just work for ya
[06:01] <Out_Cold> my google-fu is in full spectrum at this hour :p
[06:02] <ubuntu> ok blakkheim... reading it. thanks :)
[06:02] <jazz> ardchoille,  i now understand foo lol,
[06:02] <Out_Cold> yes thanks blakkheim ??
[06:02] <razz1> hiall
[06:02] <blakkheim> lol
[06:02] <ardchoille> jazz: ok :)
[06:03] <razz1> I installed vim using synaptic manager, but I cannot find it? please help
[06:03] <Out_Cold> razz1, VIM IS A COMMAND LINE TOOL
[06:03] <Out_Cold> oops
[06:03] <blakkheim> razz1: whereis vim
[06:03] <Out_Cold> stupid tiny net book
[06:03] <blakkheim> razz1: should be /usr/bin/vim
[06:04] <jazz> ardchoille,  thanks for the help earlier
[06:04] <Out_Cold> i have such big fingers for such a tiny kb
[06:04] <nomnex> in GNOME, I would like to increase the number of Directories in Places, before it creates a sub-link, anyone knows how to do it?
[06:06] <ardchoille> jazz: Any time :)
[06:06] <razz1> I am learning bash scripting and going through the doc - bash beginners guide from LDP, it recommends vim, is there a GUI for vim
[06:06] <ubuntu> blakk
[06:06] <jazz> ardchoille,  is it possible to sepatate my /home partition and install 10.4 on release?
[06:07] <JulieJulie> hmm is the a way i can boot from a usb?
[06:07] <Out_Cold> !usb
[06:07] <ardchoille> jazz: IT is possible to keep $HOME on its own partition but I don't know how
[06:07] <Myrtti> razz1: vimtutor, Im told
[06:07] <ubuntu> blakkheim: dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc this command, the instructions say taht i have to press SPACEBAR to select the device
[06:07] <Flannel> !separatehome | jazz, ardchoille
[06:08] <Flannel> jazz: If you're referring to install, you'll see it's partition during the partitioning step, mark it to be used as /home (mount point) and make sure 'format' is *unchecked*
[06:08] <ardchoille> Flannel: Ah, thanks!
[06:08] <ubuntu> if i dont things right is the device option supposed to come automatically after pressing SPACE or am i supposed to type /dev/sda3 after pressing SPACE blakkheim ?
[06:08] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, what do you see?
[06:08] <ubuntu> it i do* things right*
[06:08] <jazz> wow - thanks
[06:09] <ubuntu> in the terminal?
[06:09] <Out_Cold> after that command?? any options?
[06:09] <ardchoille> jazz: Now I'll learn about it too :)
[06:09] <ubuntu> no
[06:09] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know if gparted can safely resize windows 7 partitions?
[06:09] <ubuntu> i mean... the insturctions say don't process without selecting the right device, so i am worried of pressing ENTER after pasting in thaat command
[06:09] <blakkheim> mkquist: i think you mean NTFS partitions, and if you have ntfsprogs installed, yes it can
[06:10] <jazz> ardchoille,  yeah i am hoping to keep my home when i install 10.4
[06:10] <jazz> now i know how
[06:10] <mkquist> blakkheim: resize the actual win7 system part?
[06:10] <blakkheim> mkquist: see my previous message
[06:11] <ardchoille> jazz: sam here
[06:11] <ardchoille> *same
[06:11] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, first screen hit enter....
[06:11] <predator_x> ubuntu 10.4 ?? when is it releasing?
[06:11] <blakkheim> !lucid
[06:11] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, something like the 3rd screen is where you use the spacebar to toggle
[06:12] <Out_Cold> **toggle on/off
[06:12] <cyphase> note to self.. file bug report about gnome background not changing when resolution changes
[06:12] <ubuntu> sorry Out_Cold .... i don't konw waht 3rd nd first screen mean in terminal
[06:13] <nomnex> increase the number of dirs under Places in Gnome anyone?
[06:13] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, when i run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc i get what's called a curses display... then first screen asks you a question, hit enter and go to next screen
[06:13] <blakkheim> nomnex: #gnome might be a good place to ask
[06:13] <nomnex> blakkheim, thanks
[06:13] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, third screen, select /dev/sda-something
[06:14] <Out_Cold> sda3
[06:14] <Out_Cold> if that's your boot/grub partition
[06:14] <ubuntu>  The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or  │
[06:14] <ubuntu>  │ the `kopt' parameter in GRUB Legacy's menu.lst.  Please verify that it    │
[06:14] <ubuntu>  │ is correct, and modify it if necessary.                                   │
[06:14] <ubuntu>  │                                                                           │
[06:14] <ubuntu>  │ Linux command line:                                                       │
[06:14] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <Out_Cold> yes hit enter
[06:14] <Out_Cold> like i said
[06:14] <jazz> ardchoille, i think im going to reinstall this 9.10 and just make a partition to house my files and just use the the rest of the hdd for the os is that possible? so installing 10.4 is  a matter of normal installation and still retaining my partiton as a normal mount? like a cd or hdd?
[06:15] <ubuntu> sorry... how am i supposed to show what's happenign on my screen without looking like an enemy to the flood bot
[06:15] <blakkheim> !paste
[06:15] <Out_Cold> i already know what's happening
[06:15] <razz1> should I use gedit or vim to learn scripting?
[06:15] <Out_Cold> but use ^^^
[06:15] <blakkheim> razz1: vim
[06:16] <Flannel> razz1: Either one is fine
[06:16] <Out_Cold> razz1, emacs
[06:16] <Flannel> razz1: Whichever you're more comfortable with.
[06:16] <maco> razz1: where you type isnt as important as how you type
[06:16] <blakkheim> lol
[06:16] <ubuntu> use ^^^ before and after the line you mean?
[06:16] <maco> razz1: er... as *what* you type
[06:16]  * maco fails at wh-words
[06:16] <razz1> blakkheim: if vim is command line tool how do I use it
[06:16] <Out_Cold> no ubuntu use pastebin
[06:16] <ardchoille> jazz: I was thinking about doing that this weekend
[06:16] <Out_Cold> razz1, vim text.file
[06:16] <maco> razz1: if you want to learn to use vim, type "vimtutor"
[06:17] <blakkheim> razz1: ..in the commandline
[06:17] <Flannel> razz1: Use gedit
[06:17] <ardchoille> maco: I don't think vimtutor is installed with vimtiny
[06:17] <Out_Cold> gedit uses color coding for a lot of different types of languages.. easy for noobs
[06:17] <maco> ardchoille: bah well its still a good tutor!
[06:17] <ardchoille> maco: It is indeed :)
[06:17] <Flannel> ardchoille: No, it's not.  But vimtiny is hardly vim anyway, so there's not much to tutor
[06:17] <jazz> ardchoille,  wow im watching  kitchen nightmares this is too funny....
[06:18] <ardchoille> Flannel: good point
[06:18] <emma> test
[06:18] <maco> Out_Cold: :syntax on
[06:18] <razz1> blakkheim: thanks got to vimtutor, reading it.........
[06:18] <Out_Cold> maco, in vim?
[06:18] <maco> Out_Cold: yes
[06:18] <maco> Out_Cold: though really id use a .vimrc
[06:19] <Out_Cold> amazing... and this is why i come here this often
[06:19] <nomnex> vimtutor
[06:19] <ubuntu> Out_Cold: i had to press ENTER a couple times before the screen arrives asking me 'GRUB install devices: [ ] /dev /sda'
[06:19] <ubuntu> what now? Out_Cold ?
[06:19] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, you said you know it's sda3?
[06:20] <ubuntu> yes
[06:20] <Out_Cold> then press space on sda3
[06:20] <ubuntu> but sda3 is not appearing
[06:20] <ubuntu> just blank space or asterick bet ween the brackets
[06:20] <ubuntu> alternating
[06:21] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, you only have one option to choose?
[06:21] <ubuntu> well
[06:21] <ubuntu> i did the first few things the link blakkheim  send me
[06:21] <ubuntu> i don't think i did them wrong
[06:21] <Out_Cold> i sent the link..
[06:21] <ubuntu> SORRY SORRY you sent it
[06:21] <Out_Cold> which was your /boot partition??
[06:21] <ubuntu> :D
[06:22] <Out_Cold> which did you mount?
[06:22] <Out_Cold> can you pastebin your fdisk -l?
[06:22] <ubuntu> i will tell you the whole story... just typing
[06:22] <rumpsy> i think he is not having /boot
[06:23] <MauritianGuy> hi there
[06:23] <robs227> how can I check what video driver X is using since in Ubuntu things are dynamically chosen and I cannot check xorg.conf?
[06:23] <ubuntu> windows xp was creating problem so i had a one day old installation of ubuntu 8.10 just to be able to get online and download 9.10. while installing, 8.10 was in the partition with / and when doing a clean install an hour back, i put the format option and installed in the same partition as /
[06:23] <rumpsy> robs227: what type of video card do you have?
[06:23] <MauritianGuy> i need some help playing DVD's i insert any DVD's and its not reading the DVD's i can browse the dvd's but cant play any .vob file
[06:24] <robs227> via so it is probably openchrome but I would still like to know a command
[06:24] <rumpsy> robs227: you check that in terminal , lshw -short
[06:24] <jazz> can i make a "home" partition with the 46g i have left on my hdd and retain my current "home" as partiton that will be constant throughout various installs?, how can i make the 46g partition be the default home rather than the one  on now?
[06:25] <robs227> openchrome won't let me output to composite to use tv-out, all I get it scrambled graphics
[06:25] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, can you pastebin your fdisk -l?
[06:25] <MauritianGuy> the Xserver gives u an exact detail of ur graphic card and allows to configure settings manually
[06:25] <ubuntu> ok... scrolling up to find what the pastebin was
[06:25] <Out_Cold> !pastebin > ubuntu
[06:26] <rumpsy> robs227: goto system->administration->hardware drivers , you have a look, so that you check for good drivers for your card
[06:26] <ubuntu> but....  now i have the dark grey screen asking me the option.. not the normal terminal window. am i suppose to just close the terminal start over again?
[06:27] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, it could be that you have grub installed in /dev/sda1 when you originally dual booted with windows. Do you still use XP?
[06:27] <robs227> rumpsy, if I am not mistaken that command tells me what hardware I have, whereas I am interested in what drivers are being used to communicate with the hardware
[06:27] <b0w> hi!! i got some upgrades today from ubuntu serves and now im stuck on this ERROR, anyone can help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/365022/
[06:27] <ubuntu> NO...  i have comeeteply give nup on windows. just linux one distro on my system right now
[06:28] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, ctrl + alt + f1 or f2-f6
[06:28] <robs227> i have linuxICE and no GUI to use to check that
[06:28] <rumpsy> Check that in xorg.conf, under driver
[06:28] <ubuntu> sda1 is shown as the swap memory
[06:28] <robs227> i need terminal command
[06:28] <jazz> ubuntu same here i gave yp on windows as well
[06:28] <rumpsy> if you see, default, then it uses vesa !
[06:28] <robs227> xorg.conf doesn't contain anything because xserver is dynamic in ubuntu
[06:29] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, this is a fresh install?? i would maybe try installing again and paying close attention to the install questions
[06:29] <MauritianGuy> can anyone help me with dvd playing .vob file
[06:29] <MauritianGuy> is there a special player i need to download
[06:29] <indus> MauritianGuy, use vlc
[06:29] <indus> MauritianGuy, will play all formats
[06:29] <b0w> MauritianGuy: use SMplaer
[06:29] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, even a manual install with a different partition for swap, /boot, / and /home is a good idea
[06:29] <indus> MauritianGuy, i wonder why people use totem really
[06:29] <robs227> i manually set it to vesa and I cannot see video (movies) in that mode therefore when it is not set manually it cannot be vesa because I can see video when it is dynamic
[06:29] <b0w> MauritianGuy: SMplayer **
[06:30] <b0w> hi!! i got some upgrades today from ubuntu serves and now im stuck on this ERROR, anyone can help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/365022/
[06:30] <rumpsy> robs227: you can also make your xorg.conf for your card, by using this command, this command will exactly includes driver for your hardware, sudo X -configure, do this after stopping GDM
[06:30] <Out_Cold> totem should be taken off..
[06:30] <fsufitch> Hi, I'm using Karmic and I can't get my Wacom Bamboo Pen pad to work at all. none of the stuff on the forum's helped so far. could someone point me in the right direction?
[06:30] <robs227> okay I'll try that command
[06:31] <maco> fsufitch: did you do the stuff on the wiki?
[06:31] <b0w> hi!! i got some upgrades today from ubuntu serves and now im stuck on this ERROR, anyone can help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/365022/
[06:31] <maco> fsufitch: the wiki worked with my "bamboo fun" in jaunty and karmic
[06:31] <fsufitch> maco: yes, and the pad doesn't even appear in "xinput -list"
[06:31] <baali> I am getting this error on ubuntu 9.10 "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error", any hints?
[06:31] <rumpsy> robs227: if you find errors on x again , please use the backuped, old xorg.conf
[06:32] <maco> fsufitch: i never tried that command. i couldnt find any way to configure it at all. it just happened to work in gimp
[06:32] <maco> fsufitch: once i had that .fdi that is
[06:32] <fsufitch> maco: i tried two .fdi files, but neither worked
[06:32] <fsufitch> maco: which wiki page did you use?
[06:34] <maco> fsufitch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom#Ubuntu%209.04%20e%28Jaunty%20Jackalope%29 i used the Wacom.fdi that's linked on ther
[06:34] <maco> fsufitch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom#Ubuntu%209.04%20%28Jaunty%20Jackalope%29  sorry my typing screwed up the link
[06:35] <maco> fsufitch: i never managed to use the xsetwacom stuff
[06:35] <robs227> sudo killall gdm results in no process killed
[06:35] <sambarino> if anyone has any help regarding this error it'd be much appreciated: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_mintMenu".
[06:35] <Out_Cold> robs227, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:36] <fsufitch> maco: i just want it to be recognized and at least work as a mouse... i'll try your link
[06:36] <b0w> hi!! i got some upgrades today from ubuntu serves and now im stuck on this ERROR, anyone can help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/365022/
[06:36] <rumpsy> robs227: use this, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:36] <maco> sambarino: it remove the mint menu from the pane and re-add it
[06:36] <maco> *panel
[06:36] <rumpsy> robs227: or service gdm stop
[06:36] <sambarino> maco when i do that it gives the same error
[06:36] <ubuntu> Out_Cold: what was the ctrl alt f1 you told me to press?? it made my screen blank and yelow lines .. i had to reboot in live CD again
[06:37] <maco> sambarino: try uninstalling and reinstalling the mint menu package?  ive had it happen with other applets before back when i used gnome. i got the impression its some kind of corruption thing
[06:37] <rumpsy> robs227: prefix with sudo for those things always
[06:37] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, maybe if you have bad hardware config. it opens a different terminal
[06:37] <maco> ubuntu: it should take you to a command prompt
[06:37] <sambarino> ok, i'll try that
[06:38] <ubuntu> but then i have no way to know what to do....
[06:38] <ubuntu> isn't there anything i can do in the normal termnal?
[06:38] <ubuntu> i wil paste the results of the command Out_Cold  told me to
[06:38] <ubuntu> pls give it to me again.. the command
[06:38] <sambarino> maco, how would i go about it?
[06:38] <rumpsy> ubuntu, try to choose between f1-f8
[06:38] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, the easiest way would be to do another install... but you can sudo fdisk -l and http://pastebin.com if you want to continue so far
[06:39] <qiyong> how to re-setup locales ?
[06:39] <fsufitch> maco: no good...
[06:39] <maco> b0w: any chance you ran out of space in /boot or / if you dont have a separate /boot ?
[06:39] <maco> sambarino: remove whatever package you installed to get the mint menu?
[06:39] <b0w> maco: im ok on space a have like 60 gb free on my HDD
[06:40] <maco> b0w: and not separate partitions?
[06:40] <ubuntu> ok i pasted i there
[06:40] <ubuntu> now?
[06:40] <b0w> maco: nop, just the regular one like SWAP
[06:40] <b0w> maco: any clue?
[06:40] <Out_Cold> hit the send link  and paste the link here
[06:40] <Out_Cold> **ubuntu
[06:40] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/d249d78f1
[06:40] <sambarino> maco, it came installed, i am using mint
[06:40] <maco> sambarino: we dont support mint here
[06:41] <maco> !mint | sambarino
[06:41] <ubuntu> yes?
[06:41] <putu-shinoda> hi everyone
[06:41] <maco> b0w: is 2.6.31-17 your new or current kernel?
[06:41] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, and you are trying to get rid of windows?
[06:41] <ubuntu> i already did
[06:42] <sambarino> well thanks for the help anyway
[06:42] <putu-shinoda> how to setting pidgin so that it can connect to ym?
[06:42] <robs227> x is still running even though I stopped gdm
[06:42] <maco> b0w: does "uname -a" say you're currently running -17?
[06:42] <robs227> how do I kill x
[06:42] <blakkheim> maco: uname -r would be better for that
[06:43] <b0w> maco: well this came after some upgrades today, this is my uname -a result Linux b0w-laptop 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:43] <maco> blakkheim: meh
[06:43] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, i cannot say 100% but quite possibly grub is in sda1
[06:44] <ubuntu> but i thought SDA1 is for the swap?
[06:44] <robs227> usually swap is put in sda2
[06:44] <ubuntu> :-/
[06:44] <ubuntu> ok... i saw while the system was starting up 1.5 something
[06:44] <ubuntu> is that something?
[06:44] <ubuntu> and then the error 15 shows
[06:44] <Out_Cold> anyone else care to look at the fdisk -l? http://pastebin.com/d249d78f1
[06:45] <maco> b0w: try "sudo update-initramfs -u" and see what happens
[06:45] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, you said you installed 8.10 or 9.10???
[06:45] <ubuntu> i installed 8.10 yesterday in order to get online and download and burn 9.10
[06:46] <ubuntu> and today... while installing 9.10, i formatted the partition with 8.10 leavning everything else by itself.. was i supposed to do anything more?
[06:46] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, so we are looking at the 8.10 install or the 9.10 install??
[06:46] <ubuntu> wel right now there is only 9.10 in my system... not sure if 8.10 has left any remnants. i dont' knwo much about how linux works :-/
[06:47] <b0w> maco: exact same error as running the dpkg configure -a
[06:47] <maco> b0w: ok what if you do -c instead of -u ?
[06:47] <ubuntu> there's 9.10 in my HDD and i am in a 9.10 LIVE CD
[06:47] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, i would recommend you start fresh. is the last partition your files disk??
[06:47] <jay> im allowed to ask for help here right?
[06:47] <ubuntu> yes yes
[06:48] <ubuntu> but i think i did a fresh install.. didn't I?
[06:48] <jimio> What does -c and -u etc. mean? What do you call them?
[06:48] <Guest86186> i have 2 problems that have been frustraiting me for 2 days now
[06:48] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, grab a paper, and we'll make a partition layout for you
[06:49] <ubuntu> i mean.... when the partition menu came for 9.10, i clicked on 'change' for the 8.10 partition and clicked the 'format' option and clicked 'next'
[06:49] <ubuntu> isnt't there anything else i can do????
[06:49] <Out_Cold> jimio, those are options and you can use man <command> to see what they mean
[06:49] <Guest86186> i cant seem to get my dvd's to work nore can i get the PSX emulator to work
[06:49] <jimio> Thanks Out_Cold! I'll try that.
[06:49] <hiatus> Ubuntu: what's the problem?
[06:50] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, i'm not too sure what happened but you do have some weird partition setup.. and the grub error
[06:50] <Out_Cold> hiatus, grub2 error 15
[06:50] <Guest86186> the movies just wont play and the psx freezes at the load screen....
[06:50] <c_nick> are these 2 stmts different export PATH=$PATH=$HOME/Desktop/bin and export PATH=$PATH=/home/Desktop/bin
[06:50] <Out_Cold> on a re-install
[06:50] <hiatus> Ohhhh, bad grub install
[06:50] <ubuntu> but why does it say 1.5 in the start Out_Cold ?
[06:51] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, it would be 8.10 if it was grub 1.5
[06:51] <b0w> maco: i think we are missing something http://paste.ubuntu.com/365030/ already did adding at the end initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic and 2.6.31-17-generic
[06:51] <ubuntu> i dont' ikonw much about the grub. just sure that there is a full 9.10 installation on my HDD right now
[06:52] <MauritianGuy> indus there is VLC for ubuntu?
[06:52] <Out_Cold> yes
[06:52] <MauritianGuy> wow should have downloaded it ages ago lol
[06:52] <Out_Cold> sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:52] <MauritianGuy> thanks Out_Cold  i appreciate that
[06:52] <hiatus> Yeah, vlc is even gpl software I believe
[06:53] <hiatus> Its more of a linux player then it is a windows player
[06:53] <MauritianGuy> gpl software what's that?
[06:53] <ubuntu> now waht am i supposed to Out_Cold ?  hiatus ???
[06:53] <Out_Cold> !gpl
[06:54] <MauritianGuy> updates are so fast compared to windows
[06:54] <hiatus> Ubuntu: is it a fresh install?
[06:54] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, i think you should remove partitions 1-3 and install again. this time make sure you install grub on sda1 and also /boot
[06:54] <MauritianGuy> wow its already done
[06:54] <ubuntu> how do i make sure of what you just said Out_Cold ?
[06:54] <Out_Cold> MauritianGuy, and it doesn't ask you to restart 3 timnes in a row
[06:55] <c_nick> are these 2 stmts different export PATH=$PATH=$HOME/Desktop/bin and export PATH=$PATH=/home/Desktop/bin
[06:55] <ubuntu> if it is jsut the grub, why can't i install just the grub right now or something like that??? why go through the whole linstallation of the rest of the files?
[06:55] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: did you by chance forget to tell the installer where to mount /boot?
[06:55] <hiatus> Ubuntu: do you have a raid setup or multiple hard drives?
[06:55] <ubuntu> just one old IDE HDD right now hiatus
[06:55] <MauritianGuy> i know Out_Cold  it so much better
[06:55] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: I spaced the other day like that, and the installer didn't complain, but discovered it when the grub installation phase was giving errors
[06:56] <MauritianGuy> but u cant have everything Out_Cold
[06:56] <LtHummus> Is there anyway to invoke scp to copy files to my local machine from a server while connected via ssh to the remote server?
[06:56] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, when you go to partition... remove 1-3, then start fresh... make 3 new partitions in this order.. 300mb /boot, 2xRAM swap, 10gb /, everything else /home
[06:56] <MauritianGuy> but there is excellent support here its worth it
[06:56] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: in other words, during the partman phase of the installer, did you tell it where to put /boot?
[06:56] <hiatus> Ubuntu: its just easier to reinstall then manually deleting the old grub, reinstalling a new grub, pointing to the operating system, etc. Etc. Etc.
[06:56] <ubuntu> ok wait.... out_
[06:57] <ubuntu> Out_Cold: w/e i have done is this:
[06:57] <Out_Cold> ** 4 new ones
[06:57] <c_nick> are these 2 stmts different export PATH=$PATH=$HOME/Desktop/bin and export PATH=$PATH=/home/Desktop/bin
[06:57] <karpus> in ubuntu 9.04 I could see weeks in the clock applet, how can I enable this in 9.10? I googled and found /schemas/apps/clock_applet/prefs/show_week_numbers but I can't set it to true
[06:57] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, i know what happened roughly... but the point is it's easier to start over again than troubleshoot
[06:57] <Flannel> c_nick: $HOME is /home/username/
[06:57] <PingFloyd> that's a rather large /boot
[06:57] <b0w> maco: any clue?
[06:57] <Flannel> c_nick: (so yes)
[06:58] <Out_Cold> PingFloyd, 300mb is not overkill but still ok for bloated use..
[06:58] <PingFloyd> I used to put my /boot at 250MB, but seems like 150MB ends up usually being plenty for a few kernels
[06:58] <Out_Cold> i make smaller if i'm short on space.. but 300 is like pocket change
[06:58] <maco> b0w: sudo update-initramfs -c $(uname -r)
[06:58] <c_nick> oh ok thanks Flannel
[06:59] <maco> b0w: (my flatmate's the one telling me what to tell you)
[06:59] <c_nick> so $HOME is /home/username.. hmm now i know why it was not working
[06:59] <ubuntu> i had 40 GB for C drive in windows with the rest of 200 GB for the media files so both were NTFS. when installing 8.10, i deleted the c drive partition (whatever i was called in linux terms) and created a swap with 1GB and rest of 39 GB ext3 / (just / ) did i do anything wrong? so that is two partitions and leaving the ntfs intact.
[06:59] <pro> can anyone point me in the right direction of why named and exim dont work correctly when i start them from init scripts they fail, if i start them by hand, they work?
[06:59] <c_nick> Flannel: where can i get all of these
[06:59] <ubuntu> my ram is 2 GB btw
[06:59] <Flannel> c_nick: all of these?
[06:59] <Flannel> c_nick: `echo $HOME` will display its contents
[06:59] <c_nick> Flannel: yeah $HOME $ something else u know
[06:59] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: make your swap as large as your RAM if you want to use suspend
[06:59] <pro> and if anyone says www.debian.org/download then dont worry, im thinking that too
[06:59] <indus> MauritianGuy, vlc is a 'free software' available on all platforms
[06:59] <c_nick> cool
[06:59] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, ideally you want 3.. but you can work with 2....
[06:59] <c_nick> thanks FLannel
[07:00] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: and remember the partman in the installer is showing gigibytes, not gibibytes
[07:00] <b0w> maco: ok np so i just type that? or i puta uname -r between the ()?
[07:00] <maco> b0w: yeah
[07:00] <ubuntu> so right now when installing the 9.10 , just clicked on the format optin for the second partition that had 8.10.. is that something wrong?
[07:00] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: so if you tell it 4GB it won't be quite big enough for suspend because it will actually be under 4 GiB
[07:00] <hiatus> Why not have him do an automated fresh install? No need to make things more complicated then it needs to be
[07:00] <indus> MauritianGuy, it doesnt need any additional codecs, has its own libraries which plays every thing, can plat tv from a tvtuner, steam your desktop over the net etc etc etc
[07:01] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, go back into the installer, remove sda1, sda2, sda3 and make a new sda1 for /boot, a new sda2 for swap, sda3 for / and then mount sda4 on /home... make sure you DO NOT format sda4
[07:01] <PingFloyd> ubuntu: I mean 2
[07:01] <c_nick> how to remove a set path
[07:01] <b0w> maco: same result the menu of options
[07:01] <hiatus> Is he dual booting?
[07:01] <Out_Cold> hiatus, not anymore
[07:02] <pro> c_nick, PATH="" and then export PATH="put your shit here again"
[07:02] <Out_Cold> hiatus, he didn't quite erase the partition though
[07:02] <Out_Cold> http://pastebin.com/d249d78f1
[07:02] <hiatus> Why not just have reinstall everything then and choose to delete everything?
[07:02] <ubuntu> sorry.... i should not format sda4 or sda 2? and which should i mount in /home? *what ws the 2 for in the second line?*
[07:02] <Out_Cold> hiatus, sda4 is ntfs for files
[07:02] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, why not erase sda2???
[07:03] <Out_Cold> sda2 is where your old windows looks like it used to be
[07:03] <ubuntu> i have no idea was sda2 in the current situation  is... sda 5 is my media files i suppose. so i want to keep that..
[07:03] <Out_Cold> oh nevermind..
[07:03] <hiatus> Should still wipe the ntfs partition if he a single hard drive and selects to erase hard drive and install
[07:03] <Out_Cold> sda2 is an extended partition
[07:04] <maco> b0w: sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
[07:05] <hiatus> Worst comes to worst, he can just use gparte, unflag/dismount everything, erase it, and reinstall
[07:05] <ubuntu> ok Out_Cold  and hiatus pls (looking at my pastebin) tell me one final way of how i should set up the partition without losing my media files which are in the 202 GB partition
[07:05] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, you have a very weird partition layout and it's not making too much sense to me
[07:05] <hiatus> Ohhhhh, your trying to keep your media files
[07:05] <b0w> maco: that worked! but same ERROR :/
[07:05] <ubuntu> yes yes...
[07:05] <b0w> should we remove it first?
[07:05] <Cameron_> hey guys, im new to irc am i in the ubuntu help?
[07:06] <maco> b0w: what if you add -v ?  itll still fail but might give info as to *why*
[07:06] <maco> Cameron_: yep
[07:06] <Cameron_> thanks :)
[07:06] <Cameron_> first off, how do i change my nickname
[07:06] <Out_Cold> hiatus, swap seems to be a primary, then sda3 is ubuntu inside a extended partition... then sda4 for his files
[07:06] <Cameron_> ive got tons of questions
[07:06] <maco> Cameron_: on irc? /nick newname
[07:06] <newname> lol
[07:06] <Out_Cold> heh
[07:06] <hiatus> I would just boot ubuntu from the live cd, delete everything that is not in the 202 gig partition, then reinstall
[07:06] <Nanner> there this is Cameron_
[07:07] <maco> Nanner: we know :) it tells us when you change nicks
[07:07] <Nanner> ahh okay
[07:07] <ubuntu> ok i cna do that.. but pls give me the layout for the new partion format
[07:07] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, i agree....
[07:07] <Nanner> alright i dont have any cd's that i can burn too
[07:07] <Nanner> how exactly can i load up ubuntu to download it
[07:07] <Out_Cold> ubuntu, use roughly what i said earlier
[07:07] <Nanner> install**
[07:07] <maco> Nanner: running windows right now?
[07:07] <koshari> Nanner use a usb device
[07:07] <Nanner> yeah vista
[07:07] <ubuntu> ok just a min Out_Cold
[07:07] <maco> !wubi | Nanner
[07:07] <c_nick> thanks Flannel
[07:07] <Nanner> i dont have a usb drive
[07:08] <c_nick> tc
[07:08] <ubuntu> trying to read wat yo usaid
[07:08] <koshari> Nanner buy one they are only 4 dolalrs
[07:08] <gerzel> Anyone know what I need to install to play snes spc music files in xubuntu?
[07:08] <hiatus> Ubuntu should automate the partition layout, you just pick the option of installing it "side by side"
[07:08] <ubuntu> for some reason windows partitioning was easier for me to undersatnd... not that i am complaining but i wish i could understand the linux style more!
[07:08] <Out_Cold> dollar store sells them for $1/cd
[07:08] <Nanner> lol im broke
[07:09] <b0w> maco: i think we are getting somewhere, take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/365037/
[07:09] <ubuntu> i have tried reading as much as i could do in the forums and google
[07:09] <ubuntu> but i ended up with this :-/
[07:09] <koshari> Nanner borrow one
[07:09] <Nanner> oh wait, brb im gonna see if i can find my old usb drive
[07:09] <hiatus> Ubuntu: its a learning curve but its not hard
[07:09] <indus> so whats the problem ubuntu
[07:09] <DivineBrevity> haitus, have tried the other partitioning software available with Ubuntu?
[07:10] <hiatus> Divinebrevity: hm?
[07:10] <Nanner> alright i dont have a usb drive
[07:10] <Nanner> or atleast i cant find my old one
[07:11] <maco> b0w: might want to check your hard drive is ok with smartctl and your memory using the "memtest86+" on the live cd... because bus errors shouldnt really happen on good hardware...
[07:11] <Nanner> oh wait, it might be in my backpack i used for highschool
[07:11] <DivineBrevity> How do I whisper again?
[07:11] <maco> DivineBrevity: what is whisper?
[07:11] <koshari> Nanner !chat
[07:11] <DivineBrevity> Thanks
[07:11] <maco> koshari: what?
[07:11] <koshari> !offtopic
[07:11] <maco> koshari: Nanner is trying to get help with installing ubuntu without optical media
[07:11] <b0w> amaco: i already did the memtest ill do the smartctl
[07:11] <maco> koshari: that is not offtopic
[07:11] <b0w> maco: i already did the memtest ill do the smartctl
[07:12] <maco> b0w: ok
[07:12] <hiatus> I have used parted, gparted and fdisk, but no point in makingt things more complicated then it needs be.
[07:12] <ubuntu> indus: based on what hiatus and out_cold said my problem is weird :-/
[07:12] <koshari> maco whether he can find his school backpack is hardly on topic
[07:12] <pat|nG> morning all!
[07:12] <b0w> maco: so you think its  a hardware problem?
[07:12] <DivineBrevity> !chat haitus Did you do your install and partition, or were you trying to make a new partition after install?
[07:12] <indus> ubuntu what weird problem
[07:12] <maco> koshari: it was about finding a usb drive to do a usb-creator install
[07:12] <ubuntu> my partitions... i am having a grub error 15 problem
[07:12] <maco> koshari: one off-hand comment is not something to go off about. just long tangents
[07:12] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/d249d78f1
[07:12] <maco> b0w: yea, likely
[07:13] <indus> ubuntu thats not weird
[07:13] <ubuntu> no
[07:13] <ubuntu> my partitioning seems weird
[07:13] <ubuntu> check out the pastebin
[07:13] <indus> yeah grub 2 iam sure
[07:13] <ubuntu> but it says 1.5 in the system startup
[07:13] <ubuntu> i had 8.10 first for a day
[07:13] <b0w> maco: okey thanks a lot c-ya later!
[07:13] <maco> ubuntu: 1.5 is the stage of grub, not the version
[07:13] <ubuntu> used 8.10 to get onlien and download 9.10 becoz i was in a bad condition with windows
[07:13] <indus> ubuntu even mine says the same, but it works anyway
[07:14] <ubuntu> ok ok
[07:14] <maco> Nanner: if you cant find a flash drive, you can use wubi to dual boot with windows
[07:14] <gerzel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libopenspc0 seems to exist but if I do apt-get install libopenspc0 it says that it doesn't exist
[07:15] <indus> ubuntu can you change boot flag to sda2
[07:15] <indus> ubuntu or change it to the last one, the hpfs
[07:16] <ubuntu> indus: i am not a complete noob, but neither am i really well versed in linux. so i don't really know hat changing boot flag means
[07:16] <Nanner> alright how do i download wubi
[07:16] <indus> ubuntu see that star near /dev/sda2?
[07:16] <Nanner> nevermind i downloaded it
[07:16] <indus> it should be near sda1 or the sda 5
[07:17] <ubuntu> i see a star near sda3
[07:17] <indus> well,iam no expert either,but its always near windows for me
[07:17] <Nanner> alright so do i just download this and open it with wubi
[07:17] <indus> ubuntu the star means it is the boot partition
[07:17] <pat|nG> i got an nmap 5.00 and there is a new version 5.20....how can i upgrade my 5.00 nmap to 5.20?
[07:17] <indus> in your case, sda 3 is not so grub cant find anyting to boot
[07:18] <Nanner> so i just download this right?
[07:18] <Nanner> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:18] <Nanner> and once the donload is done i open it with wubi
[07:18] <ubuntu> ok. i understand that. then indus ?
[07:18] <maco> !wubi | Nanner
[07:18] <maco> Nanner: check out the link ubottu just gave you
[07:18] <indus> ubuntu use gparted and change the flag
[07:18] <indus> ubuntu it gives you an option i believe
[07:19] <Nanner> i downloaded wubi
[07:19] <Nanner> but it says
[07:19] <ubuntu> ok.. i wil jsut check what i can do
[07:19] <Nanner> "there is no disk in the drive. please insert a disk into drive E:.
[07:19] <indus> brb
[07:19] <indus> ubuntu you have windows xp too i believe
[07:19] <maco> Nanner: ok then yeah download the iso... i thought it offered to do that...it used to
[07:20] <koshari> Nanner a vm is even a better option than wubi
[07:20] <Nanner> ahh okay
[07:20] <Nanner> ive got 32 minutes left, just started the download
[07:21] <ubuntu> right now nothing at all..
[07:21] <ubuntu> just 9.10
[07:21] <Nanner> alright another question
[07:21] <Nanner> when i get it installed and everything
[07:22] <Nanner> do i have to install drivers and everything all over again
[07:22] <Nanner> like for my graphics card and stuff
[07:26] <ocTobafust> hey room
[07:27] <vivekrp__> Hello
[07:30] <Damian> I have a quick question, since I dont know how to do it. I'm trying to change it to where I boot up nongui and only run gui if I type startx. Only thing I've been able to try is to change the runlevel to 3 but it doesnt change anything. I really dont know what I'm doing.
[07:30] <llutz> Damian: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[07:31] <llutz> Damian: changing runlevel won't work, since *buntu uses 2-5 the same way
[07:31] <DexterLB> hi. This may be a little off-topic, but there's no one at #parted, so I'll ask here
[07:31] <DexterLB> I'm on a console only system (damn small linux without X). It has a 8GB hard drive at /dev/hda. I want to make a single 8GB partition on it, so I start parted with sudo parted, and I'm in the parted console. So I type: mkpartfs primary ext3 0% 100%, but it returns error: Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognized disk label. Why is that?
[07:31] <Damian> thank you llutz
[07:32] <Brydenn> fags
[07:32] <PingFloyd> DexterLB: why not use fdisk and mkfs?
[07:33] <DexterLB> PingFloyd: well, I'll try
[07:33] <DexterLB> wait...
[07:33] <nixjr> i put in a playstation1 cd but it didnt come up on my desktop, what can i do?
[07:34] <koshari> nixjr buy a playstation?
[07:34] <nixjr> koshari, not very helpful, i want to image it and use an emulator
[07:34] <Damian> I just did what you suggested llutz, and I'm at the gui login screen again
[07:35] <kogure> goog evening
[07:36] <llutz> Damian: sry no idea then. ask those clever guys who forced the use of upstart :(
[07:36] <koshari> nixjr you didnt mention that in the initial post
[07:36] <nixjr> koshari, it need to be able to see the disc before i can image, working on one problem ata  time
[07:37] <koshari> nixjr it will only mount if its a recignised file system, afaik ps discs are proprietry, i would imagine you would need some kind of iso rippong utility, however i dont know.
[07:40]  * Killeroid is away: I can see Russia from my bottle!
[07:41] <mobi-sheep> !away > Killeroid
[07:42] <Leoneof`> hi, everytime i write in terminal this "sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up", because /etc/network/interface is not attach the settings to eth0, this info in interface file: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1b89ae47
[07:43] <DMJC> hi  I can't seem to execute binary executables in the linux commandline anymore?
[07:43] <DMJC> eg ./fheroes2
[07:44] <Leoneof`> please :(
[07:44] <DMJC> I have permissions set to: -rwxr-xr-x 1 james james   2028908 2010-01-29 18:06 fheroes2
[07:44] <DMJC> and trying to execute as root says permission denied
[07:46] <llutz> Leoneof`: indent the lines below "iface"
[07:47] <Leoneof`> llutz: ?
[07:47] <llutz> Leoneof`: put leading tab/whitespace in front
[07:48] <pat|nG> i got nmap 5.00 and i want to change it to 5.20...what would be the command to download it from source?
[07:48] <burkey> Is there a command to see who is logged onto windows terminal services servers in the ubuntu terminal
[07:48] <llutz> Leoneof`: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e68f718
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> pat|nG: if 5.20 is not in the karmic repositories, then there won't be a command you can do to download the source
[07:49] <DMJC> wtf?
[07:49] <DMJC> I can't execute commands with ./ anymore?
[07:49] <Leoneof`> llutz: ah thank you, these spaces in front of text will effect?i didnt know
[07:50] <llutz> Leoneof`: afaik the're needed, try it
[07:50] <rumpsy> Leoneof`: what changes you made?
[07:50] <Leoneof`> llutz: thank you, will try ^_^
[07:50] <rumpsy> Leoneof`: what changes you made?
[07:50] <llutz> Leoneof`: and btw, you don't need to define network/broadcast
[07:51] <Leoneof`> rumpsy: there was a bug in network-manager, so i removed it, and tried to use /interfaces instead
[07:51] <Leoneof`> llutz: i see
[07:51] <rumpsy> Leoneof`: i can see you pastebin url, so what changes you made to correct it
[07:52] <llutz> Leoneof`: but it won't harm
[07:52] <Leoneof`> rumpsy: i never changed, i will put spaces in front of text, like llutz said
[07:52] <Guest67480> Mind if I ask a newbish question here?
[07:53] <_710m> k
[07:53] <rumpsy> Leoneof`: where exactly?, spaces?
[07:53] <llutz> rumpsy: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e68f718
[07:54] <rumpsy> llutz: Is that indent matter?
[07:55] <Guest67480> I'm trying to get a program to start using 'Startup Applications Preferences', but I just want it to open in the system tray, not have its window pop up everytime my comp starts. Is there something I need to add in the 'command' box?
[07:56] <rumpsy> Once i had that problem , what i did, just removed network manager, and works fine, no indents at all, but anyway i 'll try this too
[07:56] <hunt> Hi, how do I install grub2 from livecd?
[07:56] <mobi-sheep> Guest67480: What program?
[07:57] <rumpsy> Guest67480: ^^, reply him
[07:57] <llutz> rumpsy: network-manager "should" ignore interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces, unfortunately it's somewhat br0ken
[07:58] <Leoneof`> llutz: rumpsy : the funny thing in network-manager is that when i disconnect LAN, the ppp0 of wireless will disconnect too
[07:58] <kjelle> Hey. I'm trying to install a package through apt-get with no mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list. What I have done is to move my <filename>.deb into /var/cache/apt and try to do 'apt-get install <filename>'. But that aint working, what else is required to be done?
[07:58] <llutz> kjelle: install it with dpkg
[07:59] <karpus> in ubuntu 9.04 I could see weeks in the clock applet, how can I enable this in 9.10? I googled and found /schemas/apps/clock_applet/prefs/show_week_numbers but I can't set it to true
[07:59] <kjelle> llutz: then I need to do dpkg like 10 times in correct order, isnt it much easier to just move shit to a folder, and hit apt-get install?
[07:59] <Guest67480> mobi-sheep: Umm, Transmission?
[07:59] <rumpsy> apt-get local?
[07:59] <indus> ubuntu hi?
[07:59] <llutz> kjelle: sudo dpkg -i *.deb  && sudo aptitude -f install
[07:59] <ubuntu> hey
[07:59] <kjelle> llutz: ty
[08:00] <rumpsy> Guest67480: command is transmission -m
[08:00] <mobi-sheep> Guest67480: "transmission --help" in the terminal. You want --minimized
[08:00] <kjelle> llutz: trying it.
[08:00] <llutz> kjelle: apt-get cannot directly install debs, you need a local-repo
[08:00] <Guest67480> Thanks rumpsy and mobi-sheep, I will try :D
[08:01] <rumpsy> Guest67480: I'm sure, it should work
[08:01] <kjelle> llutz: but apt-get uses dl'ed files, right?
[08:01] <kindofabuzz> ok i just want the deluged damon and the deluge-webui, but in order to get the web-ui i have to install deluge whcih installs the deluge-gtk, I don't want the gtk! on a headless server. any suggestions?
[08:01] <kindofabuzz> oh using the PPA
[08:01] <llutz> kjelle: kinda, yes
[08:01] <hunt> How do I install grub-pc from a live-cd to /dev/sda?
[08:02] <kjelle> llutz: run.sh: line 4: aptitude: command not found
[08:02] <kjelle> llutz: it's a very limied system ;)
[08:02] <Guest67480> rumpsy: Cool. I'll come back if it doesn't. lol ^_^
[08:02] <llutz> kjelle: use apt-get
[08:02] <llutz> kjelle: sudo dpkg -i *.deb  && sudo apt-get -f install
[08:03] <hiatus> Apt-get vs. Aptitude war >:3
[08:03] <rumpsy> Apt-get will get success :o
[08:04] <kjelle> llutz: yepp ;) got it. ty
[08:04] <rumpsy> brb
[08:04] <root> hey! does anybody know how can I enable universe?
[08:05] <mobi-sheep> ubuntuussser: System --> Admin --> Software Sources
[08:05] <ubuntuussser> I am in shell
[08:05] <ubuntuussser> I am installing now ubuntu
[08:05] <MrZhi> as root no less
[08:05] <DMJC> ok can someone explain to me why I can't execute?
[08:06] <rumpsy> llutz: i'm not sure about this command working feature, sudo ap-get -f install without internet connection
[08:06] <melchior> is it possible to open a *.deb file and explore its content like i would open a *.tar file ?
[08:06] <MrZhi> DMJC: whatcha trying to execute?
[08:06] <rumpsy> apt-get*
[08:06] <mobi-sheep> ubuntuussser: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:06] <ubuntuussser> I see thx
[08:06] <mobi-sheep> melchior: Yes. You can explore stuffs in there.
[08:06] <acmeinc> anyone around?
[08:07] <DMJC> Mr Zhi: any executable in my home folder
[08:07] <onetinsoldier> melchior: yes. 'man dpkg-deb'
[08:07] <DMJC> they have perms set to 755
[08:07] <DMJC> +x is set
[08:07] <ubuntuussser> thank you very much the help, I am going to leave byeeeeee
[08:07] <ubuntuussser> exit
[08:07] <DMJC> but I get permission denied even when user/group owner is my user account
[08:07] <acmeinc> By chance could someone explain what an example failing SATA drive entry in the /var/log/messages log would look like.
[08:07] <papul> hi. i am facing a strange problem. i can see my partitions in nautilus. even the places>computer doesn't open. pen drives don't mount automatically. not even cds :( it has happened suddenly
[08:08] <acmeinc> Papul, have you checked the Removal Drive and Media section in Settings
[08:09] <acmeinc> Papul, be sure each of those are checked
[08:09] <papul> acmeinc: they worked fine before. and why doesn't my partitions show up?
[08:09] <papul> i have to mount everything manually
[08:09] <papul> and thats very annoying
[08:10] <ls22123> can a user hide where he is logged on...i have 3 users and only 2 terminals open   heres a screen shot  http://i49.tinypic.com/2dtcdol.jpg
[08:10] <papul> acmeinc: what to check there?]
[08:10] <Noober> Hello, I have a box that has 2 32 bit Intel processors on the main board, I tried using 64 bit ubuntu CD. But received an error saying that my computer couldn't handle 64 bit. Is there a way to by pass this?
[08:11] <SwedeMike> Noober: if your CPUs won't do 64bit then they won't do it. only way would be perhaps to emulate somehow, but your performance will be very bad
[08:11] <ardchoille> ls22123: you are logged into the desktop, that'ts the third user
[08:11] <mobi-sheep> ls22123: Try "users" -- It should display currently logged users
[08:11] <ls22123> shows 2
[08:11] <Noober> Ok, thank you for your help Mike :)
[08:12] <ls22123> not 3
[08:13] <ls22123> gnome and tty7 - 2 but under 'w' it shows 3
[08:14] <firekool> Hello I am trying to use xargs to pipe in a filename to remove a bunch of files however when I used the > paramiter to output the file paths it did not include the "" aound the file names what would be a good way to do that
[08:14] <firekool> I preformed find -name *1.ogg > dups.txt
[08:14] <Diverdude> hello
[08:15] <firekool> I want to preform xargs rm < dups.txt
[08:15] <rumpsy> hey, Diverdude  o/
[08:15] <firekool> but the paths in the file have spaces in them
[08:15] <Diverdude> Is there any way you can have like a 5 day local weather forecast displayed on the desktop...e.g. in the calender window in the upper right corner?
[08:16] <firekool> Diverdude: search weather in the symantic package manager
[08:17] <papul> i cant even open places > computer
[08:17] <pat|nG> i got a .tar.gz file...how can i install this on my laptop?
[08:17] <papul> it says nautilus can't handle computer: location
[08:17] <ardchoille> pat|nG: which app is it?
[08:17] <ardchoille> papul: computer:///
[08:17] <pat|nG> wireshark
[08:17] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: Conky Script? I use Firefox Addon.
[08:17] <papul> ardchoille: ?
[08:17] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: there's also a simple applet that does it, i haven't used it myself, but i know it's there.  you can just right click your panel and add the 'Weather Report"
[08:18] <NuclearFish> Anybody know where i can get a free email account hosted in china or hong kong?
[08:18] <ardchoille> pat|nG:  sudo apt-get install wireshark
[08:18] <ardchoille> pat|nG:  always check the repos first
[08:18] <papul> i cant even open the computer icon in my desktop
[08:18] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, how does that work
[08:18] <theadmin> NuclearFish: That's offtopic, sorry.
[08:18] <Diverdude> firekool, isn't it called the synaptic packet manager?
[08:18] <Sacho> Hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 9.04. There is an option under System-Preferences-Keyboard called "Mouse keys", which I keep turning off, but at arbitrary points of time, it seems to turn itself back on. What could be causing this?
[08:18] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: the applet it self or installing it?  i'm not familiar with the program, i just know it exists
[08:18] <Oli``> Is it possible to make a launcher work with a environment setting without writing a bash script to do it? In my case I want the command "WINEDEBUG=-all wine ..." but the launcher complains about not being able to find WINEDEBUG
[08:19] <firekool> Yes I was saying something off the top of my head
[08:19] <papul> so whats my problem?
[08:19] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, hmm i see..you don't know the name of it?
[08:19] <acmeinc> Has anyone seen a drive failure/write error message in  /var/log/messages before?  If so, do you have an example for my records?
[08:19] <karpus> in ubuntu 9.04 I could see weeks in the clock applet, how can I enable this in 9.10? I googled and found /schemas/apps/clock_applet/prefs/show_week_numbers but I can't set it to true
[08:20] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: it's called "Weather Report."  right click your panel and click on 'Add to Panel' and it's in that list of applets
[08:20] <DMJC> hmm drive is default mounting noexec
[08:20] <papul> i cant even open places > computer
[08:20] <papul> i cant even open the computer icon in my desktop
[08:20] <papul> it says nautilus can't handle computer: location
[08:21] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, yes...i found it...but it says weatherreport not available for current location :(
[08:21] <ardchoille> karpus: in gconf-editor, try /apps/panel/applets/clock_screen/prefs/shwo_week_numbers
[08:22] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: hmm...i'm playing around with it too, but i'm getting a full detals
[08:22] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: you probably need to configure it. you probably need to enter in a local METAR station
[08:22] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, where are you sitting? Maybe i can try to change my location to the same place on the computer and see what happens
[08:23] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: Rochester, Minnesota, USA
[08:23] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, aha...that sounds very plausible....Where can i enter that?
[08:23] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: well, i was just guessing. let me install it and see
[08:24] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, hmm it did not change anything...i still have no details in my weather report
[08:24] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: did you click update? i had to click that to get the details
[08:24] <acmeinc> Has anyone seen a drive failure/write error message in  /var/log/messages before?  If so, do you have an example for my records?
[08:24] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, yes i tried that several times
[08:25] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: Firefox Addon (Firecastfox) or Conky Script. :)
[08:25] <karpus> ardchoille: perfect, it's working great! thank you :)
[08:25] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: not sure.
[08:25] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, hehe maybe that will be the last resort :)
[08:26] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, any news?
[08:26] <ardchoille> karpus: yw :)
[08:26] <ardchoille> karpus: fwiw, usually you only need to change stuff in /apps
[08:28] <llutz> firekool: find -name *1.ogg | |sed -e 's/^/"/g' -e 's/$/"/g' >dups.lst
[08:28] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: nope. not yet anyway. looks like it just goes by where you choose you on the 'Location' tab... still looking tho
[08:28] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: Can you get the any location information, like for random places, or are they all coming up blank?
[08:29] <burkey> Is there a command to see who is logged onto windows terminal server in the ubuntu terminal
[08:29] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: i chose my area and it's working as expected
[08:29] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, okay i found out about choosing the location..sorry...my bad...i thought i figured out the location by itself from my ip-address
[08:29] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, i=it
[08:30] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: roger :-)
[08:30] <firekool> Thanks llutz
[08:30] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, hmm but okay....i was kind of hoping for a prognosis...like a 5-day prognosis or so...
[08:31] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: There are not any -- except for one but that's in Spanish. ;\
[08:31] <mobi-sheep> !info gnome-inm-forecast | Diverdude
[08:32] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: seems like it gives one to me... Right-click on it --> Details --> Forecast tab
[08:32] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, yes okay...actually i saw that one in synaptic as well....but unfortunately i am in greece right now :)
[08:32] <hiatus> Someone wants weather forecasts on there desktop?
[08:32] <will_234> hey guys. when's the fix for "x is intalled on this computer" in the ubuntu software centre going to come through? :p
[08:32] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, hmm strange i do not have this ta
[08:32] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, tab
[08:33] <llutz> firekool: typo, only one pipe (|)
[08:33] <hiatus> Why not use a firefox addon, there are a ton. One click weather, weatherbug, etc. Etc.
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: no? hmmm. looks like it's giving me a full weeks forecast on there
[08:33] <stronze> i have an issue with my sound and need help fixing it. detials are at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8739946
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> a full one wekk forecast
[08:33] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, wauw you lucky son of a .... :D I wish i had that
[08:34] <mobi-sheep> hiatus: That suggestion have been tried and is prioritized as the last resort. :3
[08:34] <hiatus> Ah, ok
[08:34] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: maybe the Forecast just isn't available in your area through this app. i don't know
[08:34] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, i tried changing to berlin...and still no forecast tab :(
[08:35] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, what is your location?
[08:35] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: you're getting current info but no forecast for your location?  how about radar map?
[08:35] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: roger. try my area
[08:35] <Diverdude> Kyletstrand, i can get the radar map tab...and window....but its just totally gray...no map in there
[08:35] <onetinsoldier> Kyletstrand: radar map? where's that? i don't have that. you are talking about the little gnome-panel applet.. right?
[08:36] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, your area is?
[08:36] <Kyletstrand> Diverdude: did you right click the icon and check preferences?  it's in the general tab to enable radar map
[08:36] <onetinsoldier> hmm, i don't have the radar map it doesn't look like
[08:36] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: North America --> Colorado --> Aurora
[08:37] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, you have to go to preferences and press enable radar map
[08:37] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: ahhh! roger. thanks
[08:37] <stronze_> i have an issue with my sound and need help fixing it. detials are at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8739946
[08:37] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, aha now i also have the forecast as soon as i changed to your location
[08:38] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: and the radar map works too!
[08:38] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, yes indeed it does
[08:38] <onetinsoldier> nice
[08:38] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, so all i need now is to move to Aurora, Colorado :D
[08:38] <Sacho> Hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 9.04. There is an option under System-Preferences-Keyboard called "Mouse keys", which I keep turning off, but at arbitrary points of time, it seems to turn itself back on. What could be causing this?
[08:38] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: yep :-)
[08:39] <Diverdude> blast.....this is probably because there is no service in athens
[08:40] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, copenhagen also has none :( And also not finland....alll the places im gonna stay for the next year has no service :( blahhh
[08:40] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: :-(
[08:41] <rumpsy> Diverdude: Next year, are you moving for projects? or what?
[08:41] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, ohh well...then i might as well remove it again...
[08:41] <stronze_> i have an issue with my sound and need help fixing it. detials are at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8739946
[08:41] <Diverdude> rumpsy, yeah i am
[08:43] <burkey> anyone  Is there a command to see who is logged onto windows terminal  server in the ubuntu terminal
[08:44] <wica> Hello, I have more than 1 IPv6 adres for my eth0. But now I have to use post-up ip -6 addr ....... Why Can I use eth0:0 eth0:1 ...
[08:44] <pat|nG> i installed wireshark but it seems my intereface ain't detected...what will i do?
[08:44] <llutz> pat|nG: use it with gksu
[08:45] <pat|nG> how?
[08:45] <llutz> gksu wireshark
[08:45] <razz1> how do I find help on IRC, like how to use IRC
[08:46] <haffe> Are there any emacs wizards here? Is there a way to change the default language of a buffer when using flyspell mode.
[08:46] <pat|nG> nothing happens
[08:46] <haffe> I.e loading a diffrent dictionary in ispell.
[08:46] <llutz> pat|nG: try gksudo wireshark
[08:46] <mobi-sheep> razz1: Just use it more often and you eventually get it. Pretty self-explanatory unless you're tinkering with advanced IRC clients.
[08:46] <pat|nG> got it
[08:46] <pat|nG> thanx
[08:47] <AdvoWork> Hi there. im running ubuntu on a server, and was wondering if there was any way, that i could ssh in(i already do) and load a gui of the server, as if I were there?
[08:47] <llutz> razz1: just read topics and read about "smart questions"
[08:47] <llutz> AdvoWork: freenx/vnc
[08:49] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: that forecast and radar image are only available in the USA
[08:49] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, ahhhh okay i see...that makes sense....darn
[08:50] <Diverdude> I have another question...i really like the screenlet widgets....but it is really quite annoying that when i minimize all windows(the small button in the lower left corner) all screenlets are removed, and i have to add them to the desktop again...is there any way to avoid that?
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[08:52] <napster> Rhory, ?
[08:52] <mattgyver> present
[08:52] <biker> humm
[08:52] <trucklover_> what's going on?
[08:52] <jrocha> what's going on with Rhory?
[08:52] <Myrtti> your guess is as good as mine
[08:52] <nomnex> yes
[08:52] <Myrtti> back to normal programming people, do not feed the troll ;-)
[08:52] <onetinsoldier> i use compiz. is there a setting where it will save all my windows when i log out? so my apps are all started up and right where i left them when i logged out?
[08:52] <Callum_> what?
[08:53] <trucklover_> now that everyone's attention was grabbed...'
[08:53] <stronze_> myrtti - but i wanna keep him.i like trolls, specialy in cages so i can poke them with sticks
[08:53] <biker> onetinsoldier: I know how to to that but on kde :p
[08:53] <onetinsoldier> biker: roger
[08:53] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, maybe you can just hibernate your computer?
[08:53] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: nah
[08:53] <stronze_> i have an issue with my sound and need help fixing it. detials are at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8739946
[08:53] <biker> onetinsoldier: let me see if i can find it on gnome
[08:54] <biker> onetinsoldier: ok I found it
[08:54] <onetinsoldier> biker: someone said it might be a compiz plugin that you have to install
[08:54] <biker> onetinsoldier: naa
[08:54] <onetinsoldier> biker: oh? cool
[08:54] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, i think that would be the same thing...i mean it would have to remember the state of all programs you have running...meaning virtually a memory dump to the harddrive...which is what a hibernation does as far as i know
[08:55] <biker> onetinsoldier: go to "Preerences" > "startup programs"
[08:55] <onetinsoldier> biker: ok
[08:55] <biker> onetinsoldier: i mean: "startup applications"
[08:55] <biker> onetinsoldier: then go to the options tab and there is it
[08:55] <onetinsoldier> biker: roger
[08:55] <onetinsoldier> biker: ahhh! thank you :-)
[08:55] <easyLIFE> guys............. been having some helpful hints for my problem. but having no sucees with my grub problem :-/
[08:56] <biker> onetinsoldier: no problem :)
[08:56] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, ohh i wonder how this function then works compared to a hibernation
[08:57] <biker> Diverdude: I think hibernation spends energy right?
[08:57] <llutz> Diverdude: just make a list of running apps, add window-position, workspace, geometry
[08:57] <onetinsoldier> Diverdude: it won't be just like you left it with this option. the apps are just started up fresh and new. and it doesn't work for every single app/widget/applet in the world either i'm pretty sure
[08:58] <llutz> Diverdude: hibernation doesn't work well with lots of configurations :(
[08:59] <Diverdude> onetinsoldier, ahh right okay then it makes sense
[08:59] <mobi-sheep> Oh no. Bots, me think.
[08:59] <Diverdude> whats going on???
[08:59] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: Silly bots.
[08:59] <upd> shit fuck :)
[09:00] <Myrtti> upd: mind your language
[09:00] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, somebody made a bot to pick a random channel and totally flood it?
[09:00] <llutz> bot-nets, thanks to all those "i have no clue but run a server" guys
[09:00] <EastDallas> Diverdude: they do it all the time
[09:00] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[09:00] <Diverdude> EastDallas, pardon my language....but such morons
[09:00] <hiexpo> EastDallas, morning
[09:01] <EastDallas> FloodBot was pretty slow to react this time....
[09:01] <razz1> llutz, mobi-sheep: just trying to find some channels and finding it tough, and not really sure how to register for each channel.
[09:01] <mobi-sheep> razz1: You should only register once (on a server).
[09:01] <llutz> !register | razz1
[09:01] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, do you know about screen lets?
[09:01] <EastDallas> hiexpo: good night soon for me....although, I guess 3am is technically morning
[09:02] <Nachturnal> Those antics actually bring back fond memories from Dalnet about 10 years ago.
[09:02] <razz1> thanks guys
[09:02] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: Err, I did use it in the past but what about it.
[09:02] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[09:02] <hiexpo> yep
[09:02] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[09:03] <papul> guys, do u know any good client for mpd? i am using sonata now
[09:03] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, yeah...i mean i have tried to use it...but stopped using it again...because its really very annoying that when i minimize all windows....the screenlets are also removed from the desktop....and i have to add them all back again
[09:03] <EastDallas> razz1: I sympathize...it took me a few days to figure out how to register on freenode
[09:03] <holycrap> what's up
[09:03] <Guest43404> join
[09:04] <Myrtti> the benefits of registering to freenode outrun the cons by far
[09:04] <jack5463> how do i get flash to work on firefox, i'm using ubuntu livecd
[09:04] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: All for weather? Use FirecastFox($EASY) or Conky script($HARD).
[09:04] <easyLIFE> can anyone help me again as to what i should do on my 9.10 install which boots only in comand prompt mode?
[09:04] <EastDallas> Guest43404: you should type /join <channel name?>
[09:04] <papul> guys, do u know any good client for mpd? i am using sonata now
[09:05] <EastDallas> easyLIFE: login and type startx
[09:05] <Myrtti> papul: sonata is one of the best
[09:05] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, but may the firefoxcast be shown on the desktop or in a panel like gnome weather report? Or do i have to have a firefox running?
[09:05] <Nachturnal> jack5463, I believe you'll have to install the flash plugin, like normal. The only problem is, you'll have to do it each time you boot with the live cd.
[09:05] <easyLIFE> ok..
[09:05] <easyLIFE> after that?
[09:05] <easyLIFE> i got to remember these commands
[09:05] <EastDallas> easyLIFE: let's see what happens first before we move on....
[09:05] <easyLIFE> IRC won't be availabe to me during that time .right?
[09:05] <EastDallas> right
[09:06] <easyLIFE> so i am logged in right now through  the live CD EastDallas
[09:06] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[09:06] <easyLIFE> i will restart and type 'startx' without quotes.... right?
[09:06] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: It'll show in Firefox status panel. Also, you get popups on new informations (ie weather alerts). I find myself using web browser all times so I just leave it running most time.
[09:06] <jack5463> Nachturnal, i installed it but doesn't work
[09:06] <rumpsy> !exploit
[09:06] <EastDallas> easyLIFE: right
[09:06] <Diverdude> please ban acasia...he is trying to send me windows7 pirate CD's
[09:06] <easyLIFE> ok... brb EastDallas
[09:07] <charles__> same
[09:07] <Nachturnal> which version did you get? Adobe's?
[09:07] <trucklover_> ditto what Diverdue said
[09:07] <tobiasz> WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!
[09:07] <trucklover_> I had about 9 file transfer messages pop up.
[09:07] <Diverdude> yeah me too
[09:07] <tobiasz> who is that retard Acasia
[09:07] <rumpsy> me too
[09:07] <tobiasz> me too
[09:07] <Myrtti> move on
[09:07] <Myrtti> it was a spammer, who is now removed from the network
[09:07] <Kristian0000vic> guys is it normal to get [UFW AUDIT]  in your log file over and over again?
[09:07] <jack5463> Nachturnal, there are three that come up including adobe, none of them work
[09:07] <ismettern> me too
[09:07] <EastDallas> !exploit | Diverdude
[09:08] <Nachturnal> jack5463, I'm not sure then. I had trouble with the "free" versions but Adobe's plugin worked for me.  I've only used 9.04's live cd with flash.
[09:10] <Myrtti> !cn | Johnny_
[09:10] <EastDallas> Diverdude: acsia is the one trying to exploit the bug...I was just putting the exploit msg back up...
[09:11] <Kristian0000vic> arghhhhhhhhhhhhh anyone good with networking security in here??????????????/
[09:11] <vivekrp__> Myrtti : ok thank you
[09:11] <Diverdude> EastDallas, ahh right i see
[09:11] <upd> Kristian0000vic, ja sam dobar :P
[09:11] <rumpsy> Spammer, makes everybody to listen for a while, that's usual, don't care about that, ops take care of them
[09:11] <llutz> "Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind." [Terry Pratchett]
[09:11] <Johnny_> 谢谢
[09:11] <upd> i care about spammers!
[09:11] <Diverdude> llutz, hehehe true :D
[09:12] <rumpsy> johnny_you are in a wrong channel !
[09:12] <Kristian0000vic> so do i and i haven't touched up on my serbian in a while
[09:12] <Kristian0000vic> lol
[09:12] <Myrtti> upd: move on, or you can care about them somewhere else very soon
[09:12] <llutz> Kristian0000vic: disable logging if you don't understand what is logged
[09:12] <mneptok> upd: do you have anything on-topic to contribute to the channel?
[09:12] <tobiasz> EastDallas changing port doesn't help, and my router firmware is newest
[09:12] <Kristian0000vic> it's not about the logging my network is going crazy
[09:12] <upd> Kristian0000vic, okey than :)
[09:12] <Myrtti> tobiasz: if you didn't drop out of the network, then using the port 8001 is good. You weren't affected by the exploit
[09:12] <upd> Myrtti, okey.
[09:12] <Kristian0000vic> i just plugged into my alpha sheild so i can get online and talk to you guys gere
[09:13] <tobiasz> Myrtti good to know
[09:13] <Kristian0000vic> im installing wireshark to find out more on what's going on with my network
[09:13] <EastDallas> tobiasz: what Myrtti said... ;p
[09:13] <Kristian0000vic> i was just wondering if ufw audit repeating itself millions of times over and over agian was normall
[09:14] <Kristian0000vic> what port or type of exploit are u guys talking about?
[09:15] <billobob> hello
[09:15] <billobob> Hey trucklover_
[09:15] <Kristian0000vic> wow im getting hit with arp redirects from my isp , i got to go guys i have to take care of this im going to go hop on my laptop :)
[09:16] <Diverdude> mobi-sheep, hmmm the firefox cast is not really consistent with the gnome forecast....one says 15 degree celcius and the other says 9 :/
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[09:16] <FloodBot3> Kendahl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[09:16] <nikolam> Kentrel, ?
[09:16] <llutz> Myrtti: fulltime-op today :(
[09:16] <nikolam> sorry Kentrel wrong guy
[09:17] <ardchoille> We need a sing that says "you must be this high to play here.."
[09:17] <Myrtti> llutz: whole week
[09:17] <mneptok> Welcome To Freenode
[09:17] <ezfox> these bots arent registered, right ? why not only let registered users join this channel ?
[09:17] <mobi-sheep> Diverdude: Your mileages may vary.
[09:18] <Myrtti> ezfox: here, have a new set of glasses.
[09:18] <ardchoille> ezfox: because many new users don't evn know how to register
[09:18] <llutz> ezfox: because it will be quite silent here then
[09:18] <ardchoille> llutz: indeed
[09:18] <Myrtti> doh. Right now, the channel can be joined only by registered users. That's the magic of mode +r. Pay attention, IRC geeks ;-)
[09:19] <ezfox> ah, comeon - one who isnt able to ask in #freenode how to register or how to look in the faq SHOULDNT be in this channel anyway, duh ?
[09:19] <ezfox> :)
[09:19] <hipitihop> can someone explain my nick mention by Kendahl
[09:19] <zetheroo> is it possible to mount ext4 hard drives in Hardy?
[09:19] <Myrtti> hipitihop: a spammer
[09:19] <llutz> ezfox: you believe in santa too?
[09:19] <ardchoille> hipitihop: ignore it
[09:19] <SwedeMike> hipitihop: flood/spam bot or just annoying person.
[09:19] <hipitihop> Myrtti, ok, thanks.
[09:20] <mneptok> ezfox: anyone that can't read 30 seconds of scrollback before making suggestions is not exactly in a position to tell others how to use IRC :P
[09:20] <hipitihop> SwedeMike, thanks
[09:20] <ardchoille> !away > lordmortis|away
[09:20] <zetheroo> I have a machine with Hardy on it and need to mount my USB EXT4 external to it ... but it says it cannot mount because it's EXT4 ...
[09:20] <zetheroo> can I enable EXT4 recognition in Hardy?
[09:21] <ziroday> zetheroo: not easily, its recommended to wait until the next LTS release
[09:21] <DVS01> hi all
[09:21] <DVS01> i'm loving roundcube :D
[09:21] <futurama140> did i do this right? test, am i in the right place?
[09:21] <futurama140> oi vey.
[09:21] <rumpsy> roundcube?
[09:21] <rumpsy> girl?
[09:21] <DVS01> webmail
[09:21] <mneptok> rumpsy: AJAX webmail
[09:21] <rumpsy> lol
[09:21] <DVS01> its very nice
[09:21] <numen> can anyone explain me, how i can do this command automatical on systemstartup? ./xboxdrv --wid 0 -s -l 2 --deadzone 8000
[09:22] <DVS01> numen: add it to /etc/rc.local
[09:22] <ezfox> mneptok: ouch, that did hurt ^^
[09:22] <futurama140> hey could someone give me a hand for a second?
[09:22] <DVS01> however, you have to specify an absolute path
[09:22] <DVS01> not ./
[09:22] <DVS01> numen: do you understand?
[09:23] <futurama140> after installing ATI drivers, i can no longer boot into ubuntu, just have random colors, cant reboot or anything. can i change back to the opensource drivers using the root terminal or do i have to rebuild the system?
[09:23] <hipitihop> futurama140, you need to ask a specific question
[09:23] <rumpsy> futurama140: no
[09:24] <futurama140> i have to rebuild it?
[09:24] <rumpsy> futurama140: don't go for fresh installation!
[09:24] <meborc> futurama140: it is possible from root, don't rebuild
[09:24] <apw> i am not sure no to an or qyestion helps
[09:24] <numen> so add to rc.local /home/gamepad/xboxdrv-linux-0.2/xboxdrv --wid 0 -s -l 2 --deadzone 8000
[09:24] <numen> is this done as root?
[09:24] <elfranne> with the cpu scaling gnome applet they ask for admin password each time ... any idea how to change that ?
[09:25] <meborc> futurama140: there is some info at wiki.ubuntu.com on how to install/uninstall video drivers
[09:25] <rumpsy> futurama140: just uninstall those drivers
[09:26] <maveas> I'm not able to connect to my wireles AP.. it's weird
[09:26] <futurama140> today is my first experience with a unix based operating system, so this is pretty confusing
[09:26] <maveas> And for the record.. there is nothing wrong with the key etc.
[09:26] <turtle^s0up> hello
[09:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> futurama140: here is a hint, with unix, you almost never have to restart or reinstall.
[09:26] <turtle^s0up> does anyone know how to display audio bitrate of a Flash video file?
[09:27] <elfranne> unless you upgrade kernel
[09:27] <rumpsy> futurama140: turn back to original driver, after uninstalling newly installed drivers, and once you got that, get in to System->administration->hardware drivers and make your decision
[09:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> elfranne: even then, you can sometimes not reboot to load it.
[09:28] <futurama140> rumpsy: how do i uninstall the new drivers and go back to the old ones?
[09:28] <rumpsy> futurama140: how do you installed those new ATI drivers
[09:29] <rumpsy> futurama140: how did you installed those new ATI drivers
[09:29] <elfranne> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets do not appears to works ...
[09:29] <futurama140> rumpsy: i used the apt-get xorg-driver-flgrx
[09:29] <rumpsy> so, use this, apt-get remove xorg-driver-flgrx
[09:29] <rumpsy> futurama140: ^^
[09:30] <futurama140> ok, thanks, just a sec
[09:30] <futurama140> rumpsy: ^
[09:31] <llutz> SpaceGhostC2C: no need to reboot seems to be out of interest of all those guys, trying to minimize boot-time in thousands-of-sec steps
[09:31] <maveas> I haven't got any problems with my wifi earliere so this is just confusing.. The other users in the resident haven't got any problems with their laptops so I know that it isn't the AP
[09:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> llutz: yes, but their solution to problems is reinstall.
[09:31] <llutz> SpaceGhostC2C: quite common here, yes
[09:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> llutz: there were two parts to what I said.
[09:32] <maveas> It happened after I updated to 9.10 :/
[09:33] <futurama140> rumpsy: system is attempting to reboot now
[09:33] <rumpsy> futurama140: okay
[09:33] <llutz> SpaceGhostC2C: and btw, the times without need to reboot are gone, since all these closed/half-free graphics-/wifi-drivers appeared
[09:34] <futurama140> rumpsy: ok, the GUI is back to let me boot. is there any additional configuration i need to get rid of any lingering bits of the old drivers?
[09:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> llutz: we're chatting, we should move ourselves into #ubuntu-offtopic. I'm already there.
[09:34] <sandro_> ciao a tutte/ti
[09:34] <Sacho> Hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 9.04. There is an option under System-Preferences-Keyboard called "Mouse keys", which I keep turning off, but at arbitrary points of time, it seems to turn itself back on. What could be causing this?
[09:35] <rumpsy> futurama140:goto  System->administration->hardware drivers and make your decision
[09:35] <Guest68078> There seem to be several spell applications in apt, but I want to install the swedish package that would work for gedit. So does gedit use, ispell, aspell, myspell or something else?
[09:36] <futurama140> rumpsy: ok, thanks for your help!
[09:36] <rumpsy> o/ ;)
[09:36] <secret> hey guys, i have a problem with update. since today i cant update anymore. over the shell it says "Connecting", then i see an IP but its not updating. when i go to the softweare sources and try to choice "the best server" then i receive an error message "no server found".. anybody an ifea?
[09:37] <meborc> Guest68078: try openoffice language packs... i'm not sure, but a lot of programs use those
[09:37] <meborc> Guest68078: texworks for example, uses openoffice packs for spelling
[09:38] <futurama140> how do i tell what xorg version im using and how do i go about upgrading it?
[09:38] <DVS01> i use postfix. when i installed at, it ended up installing courier, which overwrote my newliases executable. after removing courier, newaliases no longer exists. what would be the best way to replace the file, which comes with postfix?
[09:38] <DVS01> should i reinstall postfix?
[09:39] <Guest68078> meborc, well, for one I'm going to keep to gedit. And I'm not root on this machine, so I have to bother the admins everytime I want something, so I kind'a need to know.
[09:39] <futurama140> rumpsy: ^^
[09:39] <hexa> SpaceGhostC2C, hi there
[09:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> Hey mate.
[09:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> hexa: what's up?
[09:40] <hexa> wow, glad I'm having time right now
[09:40] <hexa> well still the issue
[09:40] <rumpsy> futurama140: if you want to upgrade, use this, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[09:40] <meborc> Guest68078: i don't know how to help you, my gedit has spell-check already
[09:40] <llutz> DVS01: why not dovecot?
[09:40] <DVS01> llutz: i use dovecot
[09:41] <hexa> Tamarr, srsly? :)
[09:41] <DVS01> llutz: dovecot is imap, postfix is smtp
[09:41] <secret> guys, my issue? update? anyone?
[09:41] <llutz> DVS01: courier...
[09:41] <futurama140> rumpsy: ok, how do i tell what version im running right now?
[09:41] <DVS01> llutz: what about courier?
[09:42] <rumpsy> futurama140: what version of ubuntu?
[09:42] <llutz> DVS01: you wrote you used courier, that's why i asked why not using dovecot
[09:42] <DVS01> oh. no, installing at caused courier to get installed
[09:43] <DVS01> i was already using dovecot
[09:43] <hexa-> SpaceGhostC2C, do you still have your idea?
[09:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> hexa-: PM me.
[09:43] <futurama140> rumpsy: 9.04 i believe
[09:43] <stuartm_> morning peeps.  I'm having a problem downloading Wine.  I have logged on launchpad but wondered if someone could assist here?
[09:44] <rumpsy> futurama140: so look here, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/xserver-xorg
[09:44] <llutz> DVS01: but to answer your question, you should reinstall postfix for newaliases
[09:44] <DVS01> llutz: yup. i did that. worked :D
[09:44] <hexa-> stuartm_, you might want to add the ppa
[09:44] <stuartm_> ppa ?
[09:44] <hexa-> personal package archive
[09:44] <hexa-> wine developers are packaging current versions
[09:44] <rumpsy> futurama140: i guess that may help you . ;)
[09:45] <hexa-> stuartm_, if you are using ubuntu karmic you may add the repository via $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine
[09:45] <hexa-> stuartm_, then update the package list (sudo apt-get update) and install current wine (sudo apt-get install wine1.2)
[09:45] <DVS01> heh
[09:45] <DVS01> this is gonna be fun
[09:46] <DVS01> i did a manual tarball installation of mailscanner with spamassassin and clamav
[09:46] <mo_> hello all, im trying to send some files fom ubuntu section of my hdd to my vista section, i have used wine to access my c: drive but when i started windows the files were not there or not visable any ideas, p.s im a novice so no experiance ith linix my first try
[09:46] <hexa-> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa this is the url to the repository
[09:46] <stuartm_> No I was using out of the box synaptic and also software centre.  Both failed to find the winbind dependency
[09:46] <futurama140> rumpsy: ahh... actually none of that makes much sense to me :P
[09:46] <DVS01> now i realize that it would be much more organized to use the packages
[09:46] <DVS01> so now i gotta locate all these files and delete them and then install mailscanner from the package :P
[09:46] <hexa-> stuartm_, did you edit your sources.list?
[09:46] <llutz> DVS01: it's better to use native packages in most cases
[09:46] <DVS01> yea i know
[09:46] <DVS01> or at least use checkinstall
[09:46] <meborc> mo_: the c: in wine is a virtual one... not the real c: :) you need to mount the partition your windows is on
[09:46] <Myrtti> mo_: wine doesn't give you any kind of access to your vista partition
[09:47] <futurama140> rumpsy: im just trying to enable 3d support on my legacy radeon, the drivers you just helped me remove were supposed to be the correct ones, but it just screwed it all up. ubuntu will be a burden if i cant play world of warcraft :(
[09:47] <rumpsy> futurama140: more than that  you can have look at xorg logs, /var/log/xorg.o.log
[09:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> futurama140: I'm helping hexa- set up wow right now. Want help?
[09:47] <simple_> hey
[09:48] <simple_> i'm doing an rsync between two drives using a ubuntu livecd. Speed varies between 100 meg/second and 5meg/second every few minutes
[09:48] <simple_> any ideas why?
[09:48] <mo_> thats what i was thinking, read somewhere its ore like an emulater but more complicated, how would i go about mounting the partition please meborc, and ty aswell Myrtti
[09:48] <rumpsy> futurama140: i said to you already, goto system->administration->hardware drivers
[09:48] <tarzeau_> simple_: a lot of small files
[09:48] <rumpsy> futurama140: what it shows?
[09:48] <hexa-> futurama140, do you get "err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
[09:48] <hexa-> "?
[09:49] <simple_> tarzeau_, hmmmm
[09:49] <futurama140> SpaceGhostC2C: well, i need to figure out if theres any way to get 3d support for my old card first :P
[09:49] <simple_> so this is ok?
[09:49] <meborc> mo_: there is a lot of information on wiki.ubuntu.com... search for mounting ntfs... it is a long story to type in irc :)
[09:49] <futurama140> hexa: havent made it that far.
[09:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> futurama140: I can help you if you want.
[09:49] <simple_> i'm doing rsync with checksumming
[09:49] <_ruben> simple_: your drives cant handle 100meg/sec most likely ... so while its flushing the data to the disks, the transferspeed will drop drastically
[09:49] <simple_> if that makes any difference
[09:49] <futurama140> rumpsy: it shows absolutely nothing :P
[09:49] <hexa-> futurama140, SpaceGhostC2C, lets meet up in #ubuntu-wow then?
[09:49] <mo_> meborc, ty will do :)
[09:49] <simple_> hmmm
[09:49] <simple_> k
[09:49] <simple_> _ruben, this is read speed
[09:50] <rumpsy> so, don't use 3D drivers, until you get proprietary driver from ubuntu
[09:50] <rumpsy> futurama140: ^^
[09:50] <_ruben> simple_: even with reading, standard drivers dont do 100meg/sec
[09:50] <_ruben> s/drivers/drives/
[09:50] <simple_> hmmm
[09:50] <simple_> kk
[09:51] <meborc> mo_: try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=MountNtfsOnBoot
[09:51] <simple_> in short, tis normal and i should just let it run its course?
[09:51] <rumpsy> The safest way to keep ubuntu stable, use default drivers, don't make it force to work on it
[09:51] <Leoneof> llutz: i added like this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e68f718 , but eth0 still cant attach the settings like ip and netmask
[09:51] <simple_> does a livecd stop/spin down if i don't use it? (ie. will the transfer slow down when it goes into screensaver mode)
[09:51] <simple_> ?
[09:52] <indus> simple_, what transfer
[09:53] <_ruben> simple_: a drive wont be spun down when its active obviously
[09:53] <simple_> indus, rsync
[09:53] <simple_> hmmm
[09:53] <simple_> kk
[09:53] <simple_> cool
[09:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> !enter | simple_
[09:54] <simple_> ok
[09:54] <simple_> Thanks everybody
[09:54] <Leoneof> anyone know how to attach the ip settings to eth0 by using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:55] <llutz> Leoneof: exact the way you did. read man 5 interfaces
[09:55] <llutz> Leoneof: have you disabled networkmanager?
[09:56] <Leoneof> llutz: yes i removed network-manager, i'm trying to use manual settings
[09:57] <Leoneof> llutz: should i add "ifup eth0" ?
[09:57] <llutz> Leoneof: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:58] <Leoneof> llutz: it will restart all network, and will leave the chat :/
[09:58] <Leoneof> llutz: but should i add "ifup eth0" ?
[09:58] <llutz> Leoneof: add where? ifup is a command
[09:59] <Leoneof> to interfaces file
[09:59] <Leoneof> ?
[09:59] <llutz> Leoneof: ifup is a command, not an option
[09:59] <Leoneof> :/
[09:59] <llutz> Leoneof: "auto eth0"   should bring the iface up
[10:03] <aleanne82> how to get ubuntu's kernel source code? i've tried  apt-get source linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic but it says that package is not found
[10:04] <SolarisBoy> apt-cache search?
[10:04] <hexa-> aleanne82, apt-get source linux-source
[10:05] <hexa-> aleanne82, eh nvm that
[10:05] <hexa-> aleanne82, apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:05] <SolarisBoy> linux-source-2.6.27
[10:05] <sh0ne> Hi
[10:05] <nesuno> Hi! Copying files from an ntfs partition to another ntfs partition is safe with ubuntu live cd, or better to use a win boot cd?
[10:06] <aleanne82> > E: Cannot find a source package for linux
[10:06] <llutz> nesuno: better use win-cd
[10:06] <hexa-> nesuno, could imagine that this would be cruelly slow
[10:06] <aleanne82> nesuno: it will ruin your NTFS permissions, so take care
[10:06] <hexa-> aleanne82, output of uname -r?
[10:07] <aleanne82> i said, 2.6.31-14-generic
[10:07] <nesuno> llutz: hexa-: aleanne82: Ok, thanks for all!
[10:07] <SolarisBoy> that was an example of what the search command returned
[10:07] <SolarisBoy> apt-cache search image |grep source
[10:08] <hexa-> aleanne82, ah sorry, they seem to have changed something here
[10:08] <hexa-> aleanne82, basically you could also take the git repo
[10:08] <hexa-> aleanne82, $ git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-karmic.git
[10:09] <stuartm_> Hexa, thanks for that (sorry for delay had to take a call).   I will give your suggestion a bash.
[10:09] <hexa-> np
[10:09] <sh0ne> Hey, guys, which type of Ubuntu distribution is better for programming (C, Python, Perl): Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Server?
[10:09] <SolarisBoy> same diff mostly
[10:10] <stuartm_> Depends if you wanna use an IDE or not
[10:10] <llutz> sh0ne: use minimal-cd and install what you really need. neither server nor desktop might be what you want
[10:10] <stuartm_> IF you are just using it as a build engine use server.  If you are developing visual apps and want to use something like eclipse use desktop
[10:10] <SolarisBoy> server implies no X running?
[10:11] <SolarisBoy> i didn't think so
[10:11] <sh0ne> Thank you, guys, you helped :)
[10:11] <stuartm_> You can use x on server but it doesn't install out of the box (or didn't pre 9.10)
[10:12] <stuartm_> Nice to see your now using a proper OS SolarisBoy :-)
[10:12] <callum__> hi people
[10:12] <SolarisBoy> lol
[10:12] <callum__> just wondering if there is a way to terminal reset the theme of 9.10 ubuntu remix?
[10:13] <callum__> or anyone know what the theme originally is?
[10:13] <SolarisBoy> human?
[10:13] <callum__> So i can change it back thanks
[10:13] <zvacet> stuartm_:  maybe he is dual booting  ;)
[10:13] <SolarisBoy> i use solaris at work and debian or ubuntu @ home
[10:13] <SolarisBoy> yes i dual boot
[10:15] <zvacet> SolarisBoy:  that is good but this is off topic I'm afraid
[10:15] <callum__> well
[10:15] <callum__> Is there anyway i can reset the theme/s
[10:15] <SolarisBoy> thanks for your inputs
[10:16] <SolarisBoy> callum__: right click the desktop and choose change desktop background select the theme tab and choose human atleast thats the default on 8.10
[10:18] <stuartm_> Right off to do some work.  Thanks for the assist guys
[10:18] <SolarisBoy> peace
[10:18] <clockonthewall> are all networked external harddrives compatible with ubuntu?
[10:19] <meborc> c u guys
[10:19] <SolarisBoy> nfs/samba/cifs ntfs/fat is mountable and is available to ubuntu so unless some propieratry protocol or software is being used yes it should be accessible
[10:20] <SolarisBoy> iscsi as well
[10:20] <irenicus> solaris>ubuntu   @ solarisboy?
[10:21] <clockonthewall> which file system is better?
[10:21] <SolarisBoy> ext3 =)
[10:21] <SolarisBoy> irenicus: ?
[10:21] <aleanne82> clockonthewall: ntfs
[10:21] <irenicus> ^^
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> oh well if i was forced to choose a windows based fs yes ntfs is preferrable
[10:22] <Myrtti> clockonthewall: depends on the usage
[10:22] <clockonthewall> ntfs now works with linux?
[10:22] <hexa-> sure does
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> yes
[10:22] <Myrtti> clockonthewall: to a certain degree
[10:22] <aleanne82> clockonthewall: poorly
[10:22] <irenicus> ubuntu can r&w on ntfs ^^
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[10:22] <llutz> ntfs would be fine, if free
[10:22] <maveas> ntfs-3g ;)
[10:22] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[10:23] <clockonthewall> why would you want to use ntfs if it works poorly?
[10:23] <irenicus> only if u dual boot xp for playin games xD
[10:23] <aleanne82> clockonthewall: you're interested in your data or your OS?
[10:23] <SolarisBoy> doesn't for me.. works absolutely fine
[10:23] <clockonthewall> aleanne82: data
[10:23] <clockonthewall> and os
[10:23] <clockonthewall> wait what do you mean
[10:23] <irenicus> os>data
[10:24] <irenicus> lol
[10:24] <aleanne82> clockonthewall: ntfs is portable, stable and feature-rich
[10:24] <zvacet> clockonthewall:  and you want access from windows and ubuntu to that data
[10:24] <llutz> aleanne82: but not free and ntfs-3g is awfully slow
[10:24] <Myrtti> clockonthewall: if the main usage is on Windows, then use NTFS/FAT. if main usage is on Linux, then use EXT3.
[10:24] <clockonthewall> ok
[10:25] <Myrtti> clockonthewall: both are read/write on both systems, but both have problems in the features on non-native systems.
[10:25] <aleanne82> ntfs supports compression, encryption and ACLs, ext3 does not
[10:25] <Myrtti> aleanne82: wrong
[10:25] <SolarisBoy> lo
[10:25] <llutz> acl.... sure
[10:25] <irenicus> who wants 2 compress their harddrive man :p
[10:25] <zvacet> clockonthewall:  if you want access to that data from both os then ntfs is your choice
[10:26] <aleanne82> Myrtti: what is 'wrong'?
[10:26] <axos88> Hi! Where can I find some docs about how to read the dpkg -l output?
[10:26] <axos88> ii, rc, etc
[10:26] <Myrtti> aleanne82: ext3 has access control in Linux, and you can encrypt it to their hearts content. it's not usable in Windows. I've not heard NTFS ACL's to be portable to Linux with any system
[10:26] <SolarisBoy> man dpkg
[10:26] <axos88> SolarisBoy, nice try, doesn't have it
[10:26] <SolarisBoy> ?
[10:26] <irenicus> ext3 bad if u got some confidential stuff
[10:26] <Myrtti> aleanne82: as said, neither work 100% in non-native systems
[10:26] <irenicus> difficult 2 erase trace ^^
[10:27] <llutz> axos88: header line in output
[10:27] <axos88> SolarisBoy, i just read through the man page
[10:27] <SolarisBoy> -l simply lists each package
[10:27] <axos88> llutz, yeah, that seems to have some relevance, but why are there two letters?
[10:27] <SolarisBoy> im at a loss for the misunderstanding?
[10:27] <Leoneof`> llutz: i did /etc/network restart , and it did attach the ip address to eth0 , but it does not attach automatically in startup, why?
[10:27] <SolarisBoy> if you need more options or formatted output look at the format options
[10:27] <llutz> axos88: 1st state, 2nd error
[10:27] <clockonthewall> thanks guys
[10:27] <axos88> SolarisBoy, the first two letters (ii, rc, etc) is what's of interest to me. The rest of the line is obvious
[10:28] <axos88> llutz, there is no "Error flag" with "i"
[10:28] <indus> i agree with the compression on ntfs ootb
[10:28] <indus> and encryption
[10:28] <raunsbaek> Hey.
[10:28] <callum__> ???
[10:29] <callum__> Does Ubuntu Desktop 9.10 work on EEE PC 701 With WIFI?