[01:09] <r4u1> .quit
[01:20] <fuze> why has this been labeled wont fix and is it possible for me to fix it on my device? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/271019
[01:30] <OerHeks> an bug report from 2008, last comment 2012 ..
[01:59] <deusexmachina> Hi guys
[02:46] <FORDRDNK> so anyone have experience with Ubuntu Touch?
[02:46] <deusexmachina> Yes
[02:46] <deusexmachina> I used to dev for it, but never actually contributed my work due to me and the team not getting along
[02:47] <deusexmachina> What is your question
[02:48] <deusexmachina> FORDRDNK, what is your question?
[02:52] <deusexmachina> FORDRDNK, I would stay away from it... the reason I left is because it was shit and no one would listen to me about how we needed to fix it, happened twice, because I decided to try again
[02:52] <FORDRDNK> that bad eh?
[02:53] <FORDRDNK> i was curious... trying to get away from Google and Iphone
[02:53] <deusexmachina> Oh, well, that's why I have a project to make a competitor... but I only have 1 coder working on it and don't have time myself
[02:54] <FORDRDNK> Yeah i'm just tired of privacy bullshit and tracking
[02:54] <deusexmachina> Like, if you want to get away from google, postmarketOS, or Plasma Mobile... Or if you want you can build AOSP (Android Open-Source Project)
[02:54] <deusexmachina> AOSP is googles opensource branch of Android, it's FOSS, and it's Android with no Google stuff
[02:55] <FORDRDNK> true but wouldnt linux be more secure ??
[02:55] <deusexmachina> Well, Android is Linux
[02:55] <deusexmachina> It's Linux kernel, and recently they've gotten to the almost mainline upstream
[02:56] <FORDRDNK> so roll an AOSP and modify from there eh
[02:56] <FORDRDNK> they support DSDS
[02:56] <deusexmachina> You can... Or you can wait for one of the MANY FOSS GNU platforms currently in development
[02:57] <FORDRDNK> FOSS?   acronym definition please...     if you are talking modules in a vehicle i get it 100%   little lost on the tech stuff been years since i've been into all this
[02:57] <deusexmachina> I have one in development, but I'm too  busy with projects for income to spend a lot of time on it
[02:57] <deusexmachina> Free Opensource Software
[02:58] <FORDRDNK> recommendations for the FOSS?
[02:58] <deusexmachina> I would get a pinephone
[02:58] <syntrope> installed Ubuntu 19.10 on laptop, but it boots into a blank screen. Worked as live boot. What could be the problem?
[02:58] <deusexmachina> Ubuntu Touch doesn't support any modern devices, and the older ones they do support, none have full hardware support working
[02:58] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: don't they require their own device tho?
[02:59] <deusexmachina> Ubuntu Touch requires a specific supported device
[02:59] <deusexmachina> and there is only 2 very outdated shitty phones that have decent support, and 0 devices with full working hardware
[02:59] <deusexmachina> I use UT on my business phone because I don't care if I miss calls... Also I've never given out the number to anyone, so it doesn't matter if I have proper stable support
[02:59] <huttan> I turned off password lon login and now the lock button is gone from the "top right arrow down settings" . Is there anyway I can manually re add the button but with a custom command that does not launch the standard unity/gdm lock screen?
[03:00] <deusexmachina> my personal phone is more critical, I run stock Samsung 10.0 Android
[03:00] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: So would it even be worth trying any of that on my pixel 3a xl that is like a spare device?
[03:00] <deusexmachina> I need that because I am crazy and may require help with my mind
[03:00] <deusexmachina> there is no support for pixel devices
[03:01] <deusexmachina> you could make it... The starting point for porting is a lineageos kernel, device tree, and vendor tree
[03:01] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: yeah from what i was reading it was older generation nexus and all
[03:01] <deusexmachina> I have 87 Nexus 5's
[03:01] <deusexmachina> haha
[03:01] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: 87?? collector?
[03:01] <deusexmachina> I bought 100 from Ebay in a single lot, for $1250, $12.50 CDN
[03:02] <FORDRDNK> damn.
[03:02] <deusexmachina> Yeah... I'm a crazy person, I do really ridiculous things
[03:02] <deusexmachina> that's another part of why I left the UT team... they didn't respect the fact that I was crazy... they would tell me off and once banned me for a while simply because I was having mental health issues
[03:02] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: since you seem knowledgeable in this should i just stick with the basic os that came with the pixel and not worry about the linux os change?
[03:03] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: Crazy can be a good thing
[03:03] <deusexmachina> I mean... they all bring their old retired phone, and do their work on that... I bought $12,000 of devices and started working on porting them all together
[03:03] <deusexmachina> Yeah, unless you're the one who has to judge my actions and thoughts/speech
[03:03] <FORDRDNK> deusexmachina: thats the man upstairs
[03:04] <deusexmachina> Lol, every non ML/AI channel on this irc network things I'm a troll/liar
[03:04] <FORDRDNK> damn
[03:05] <deusexmachina> It's fine... I take it as a compliment
[03:05] <deusexmachina> if I'm so good, that you don't believe my actual life... That's awesome
[03:05] <deusexmachina> Try Pinephone, I think that WILL have proper Ubuntu Touch support, since it's completely open documented hardware
[03:06] <FORDRDNK> pinephone is it out of the box install and go or no?
[03:06] <deusexmachina> I'm not sure if they are making them for market yet
[03:06] <deusexmachina> It's a modern spec nice phone, with fully open support and drivers... I have one that I bought off a person who got one from a developer kit
[03:07] <deusexmachina> mine isn't a nice package, it's a bunch of parts with no case... I would say, get a FairPhone 2, or a Nexus 5, and use UT, an
[03:08] <deusexmachina> mine isn't a nice package, it's a bunch of parts with no case... I would say, get a FairPhone 2, or a Nexus 5, and use UT, and if you have no issues with the issues it has, then you can keep it, otherwise you can reflash whatever else you want
[03:08] <FORDRDNK> any known issues as of now?
[03:09] <deusexmachina> The battery life sucks... Which I offered to fix with voltage and frequency scaling kernel modules... declined by official team
[03:10] <deusexmachina> even if you use it with Franco Kernel which
[03:10] <deusexmachina> which don't work OOB, you can't make the ancient screen pull less power
[03:10] <deusexmachina> Fairphone 2 is suposed to be better, haven't tried that device
[03:11] <FORDRDNK> Damn that sounds like too much trouble
[03:11] <deusexmachina> Lol... playing with new tech and toys is something I love
[03:12] <FORDRDNK> So did i back in the day of the old a855 android that came out with verizon.. I'd love to have my BB 9530 back working again too.
[03:13] <deusexmachina> I have only new phones working
[03:13] <deusexmachina> I have bricked them all except my development devices
[03:13] <deusexmachina> I have 12 Samsung Galaxy S phones
[03:14] <deusexmachina> They all run Linux 5.1 modified kernel, and it's the same kernel for all 12, plus 3 Pixel devices... Even older devices with 3.x kernel drivers
[03:14] <FORDRDNK> damn
[03:14] <deusexmachina> I haven't gotten too far with it, it's usable as a linux system, not as a phone yet
[03:14] <deusexmachina> That's my baby
[03:14] <deusexmachina> I mean, it was my baby, before I got obsessed with ML/AI/AGI
[03:15] <deusexmachina> Now all I do is work on AGI and then work on projects that pay to fund AGI work
[03:15] <deusexmachina> I've been working for almost 9.5 years on my AGI stuff
[03:15] <FORDRDNK> lots of time
[03:15] <deusexmachina> yeah, and we're talking 120+ hours a week
[03:16] <deusexmachina> but now I have to make money because I can't keep going without working on things that pay
[03:16] <deusexmachina> so... coding boring stuff, all the time:(
[03:16] <deusexmachina> But, I use Ubuntu for all my work:D
[03:18] <deusexmachina> Ubuntu FTW
[03:19] <deusexmachina> I use apt-get source and apt-get build-dep to build stuff with -march=native that I need absolute performance on
[03:20] <deusexmachina> have you ever compiled with 1344 threads?
[03:20]  * deusexmachina has a nerdgasm
[03:35] <pyJeffy> hi
[05:30] <pi0> anyone here use qemu on ubuntu
[07:31] <p0a> Hello if I update my ubuntu from 19.4 to 19.10 will anything break
[07:31] <p0a> My distro is mostly fresh I haven't tinkered much with it
[07:35] <fuze> Is it possible to make front and rear headphone ports detectable as separate outputs?
[07:38] <ducasse> p0a: upgrading should be fine, as long as you haven't added tons of ppas. backing up first is recommended, though.
[07:38] <p0a> ducasse: How can I see what ppas I've added?
[07:39] <ducasse> p0a: 'apt policy', or 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d'
[07:41] <p0a> ducasse: `apt policy' gives a long output but the `ls' is empty
[07:41] <ducasse> can you pastebin the output of apt policy, and i'll give it a look?
[07:43] <p0a> sure! https://pastebin.com/Y717TNS5
[07:45] <pi0> anyway to set the login screen from purple to black?
[07:45] <sweep90> pi0: what display manager are you using
[07:45] <ducasse> p0a: ok, see the lines starting with '500'? if any of those contain a url with something other than *.archive.ubuntu.com they are ppas. you don't have any, so upgrading should be fine.
[07:46] <p0a> ducasse: thank you! :) I appreciate your help.
[07:46] <ducasse> no problem :) i'd back up first, though. better safe than sorry.
[07:47] <pi0> display manager? how can i tell
[07:48] <pi0> i am using stock ubuntu 18.04
[07:48] <sweep90> pi0: are you talking about the lock screen wallpaper?
[07:48] <p0a> pi0: https://askubuntu.com/a/409285
[07:50] <pi0> sweep90: the login purple screen
[07:50] <pi0> p0a: thank you
[07:50] <pi0> p0a: changing to #000000 would make it black?
[07:51] <p0a> pi0: yup I believe so
[07:51] <pi0> p0a: lock screen is the same as login screen
[07:54] <pi0> brb gonna reboot
[07:54] <p0a> godspeed
[08:06] <pi0> shoot
[08:07] <pi0> it did not work :/
[08:07] <pi0> thank goodness for tmux
[08:07] <pi0> i can attach and detach from sessions
[08:07] <pi0> i dont want to install plymouth
[08:07] <p0a> sorry!
[08:07] <pi0> to do this, there has to be a way without third party apps
[08:43] <MJCD> hey I want to completely disable/remove the built in desktop-minimal 18.04's software updater
[08:44] <MJCD> it's for workstation use
[08:44] <MJCD> so we handle the updates ourselves
[08:44] <MJCD> manually
[08:44] <Woodpecker> What is the notification command in Ubuntu? I want to add a popup notification when my compiles finish.
[08:47] <EriC^^> Woodpecker: notify-send
[08:48] <Woodpecker> !cookies | EriC^^
[09:31] <MJCD> hey can someone pastebin their sources.list
[09:31] <MJCD> lol
[09:31] <MJCD> I did make a backup but it got messed up
[09:31] <MJCD> because I don't understand sed well enough
[09:32] <ducasse> MJCD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FnjkJpTF8j/
[09:46] <Night_Elf> Hello. I wonder, is it normal that when resizing an ext4 partition on a USB stick, from 32MB to be 30GB, it is taking almost one hour to do? I am using gparted for this.
[09:54] <TexadimirLeanin> how can i use ppa to get the newest version of php on an ubuntu?
[10:05] <MJCD> Night_Elf, uh
[10:05] <MJCD> why didnt you just take the files off
[10:05] <MJCD> and reformat it
[10:05] <friendlyguy> hi there! i am running a ubuntu based distribution (armbian) on a small soc (cubietruck) here. it turns off randomly and i am trying to figure out why.
[10:06] <MJCD> have you checked your voltages
[10:06] <friendlyguy> i examined the syslog and found nothing other than mysql-server restarting in there
[10:07] <MJCD> it could be that the psu/pwm is not able to draw enough power
[10:07] <Night_Elf> MJCD: I am just doing that. Deleting the partition completely and recreating it again.
[10:07] <MJCD> through the system, or something is using more than it can provide likely
[10:07] <friendlyguy> MJCD: how do i do that? btw. the system has a big battery attached to it... (i didnt test that for some years if its still functional though)
[10:07] <MJCD> Night_Elf, that's not resizing
[10:07] <MJCD> that's reformatting
[10:07] <MJCD> did you set it to be a quick format?
[10:08] <friendlyguy> (the battery that is attached to it is a 3,7 V-/5,3 Ah battery)
[10:10] <Night_Elf> MJCD: Not yet. Am just about to see to recreate it with the same label and uuid as it was before. The idea is that I don't really need to resize in the sense that resizing should happen. All I need is for it to fill all the space in the usb thumbdrive. It is a live system bootable usb and that partition is where stuff is stored. Mounted by the live system.
[10:11] <Night_Elf> uhmm... how to specify a quick format to mkfs.ext4 ?
[10:24] <tomreyn> TexadimirLeanin: why do you need to? see also:
[10:24] <tomreyn> !latest
[10:25] <tomreyn> !armbian | friendlyguy
[10:25] <tomreyn> !otherdistro | friendlyguy
[10:26] <tomreyn> !derivatives
[10:29] <tomreyn> Night_Elf: there are not "ext4 partition[s]", there are partitions with ext4 file sstems on them. resizing a file system could take a while, as could moving data within a resized partition. but the duration you specified does seem long for this amount of data unless the storage is defective, generally slow or badly connected.
[10:31] <friendlyguy> MJCD: i think you were right, its the power supply
[10:31] <tomreyn> Night_Elf: "quickformat" is an outdated concept used to refer to generating a FAT file system on windows while not zeroing all blocks of the storage. on linux, you'd just say "create file system".
[10:31] <friendlyguy> have a nice day!
[10:32] <sazawal> Hi all. I am using Ubuntu 19.04. I have a portable usb hard disk, it is detected in lsusb but not in fdisk -l and Disks. How do I fix it?
[10:33] <tomreyn> sazawal: what does lsusb report for it? see also:
[10:33] <tomreyn> !paste
[10:34] <tomreyn> !19.04 | sazawal: on a side note (note the end of support)
[10:37] <p0a> How can I upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10?
[10:38] <tomreyn> !upgrade | p0a
[10:38] <p0a> thank you tomreyn
[10:38] <sazawal> tomreyn, Thanks.  Here is the lsusb output https://termbin.com/9ov0
[10:38] <tomreyn> you'Re welcome.
[10:38] <tomreyn> !crosspost | Night_Elf
[10:39] <tomreyn> sazawal: i don't see a usb storage listed, which one is it?
[10:41] <Night_Elf> tomreyn: Well yes, I knew all that. What I said was more a shorthand for the problem, asuming that all understand what is meant by "an ext4 partition". Getting back to the problem, it seems that resizing partitions in usb thumbdrives, is a really bad idea. It's much simpler to save the data somewhere (like in a .tar.gz file), delete that partition, recreate a new one bigger as desired, and format.
[10:41] <Night_Elf> After that just restoring the same data from the previously made .tar.gz
[10:41] <sazawal> tomreyn, The first one with ASMedia. By USB I meant that it is connected to the usb port of the laptop. The casing has eSATA port.
[10:42] <tomreyn> Night_Elf: so you knew already that you should not cross post (and did it nevertheless)?
[10:43] <Night_Elf> I was refering to the semantics about ext4 partitions and ext4 fileystems.
[10:44] <tomreyn> i see. so maybe you did not know you should not cross post, so it's good you know now.
[10:45] <tomreyn> sazawal: hmm, this seems to be a buggy usb<->sata bridge. this seems to discuss it https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/239782/connection-problem-with-usb3-external-storage-on-linux-uas-driver-problem
[10:45] <tomreyn> sazawal: maybe just do the ubuntu upgrade (which you need to do anyways) and it might already work then. if not, you can try the workaround suggested on this article.
[10:46] <sazawal> tomreyn, Actually this casing works with other hard disk. Maybe the hard drive itself (not the casing) if defective.
[10:47] <Night_Elf> tomreyn: I don't want to seem inconsiderate, but actually the people who supplied some insight to my question from debian, are not here. I wouldn't have solved the issue if I didn't ask there. Is it really a problem that the same can be asked in more than one place?
[10:47] <tomreyn> sazawal: hmm, could be that, too. what's the output of     journalctl -kp4 | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:48] <p0a> Night_Elf: perhaps if you wait an appropriate amount of time on one channel and you get no help, you can ask in another
[10:48] <p0a> Night_Elf: but mass-spamming a question puts your time above others' time
[10:48] <tomreyn> Night_Elf: exactly what p0a said. it's just selfish.
[10:49] <ducasse> Night_Elf: crossposting is rude and inconsiderate. if you ask in two channels, and one person in each answers, one of them has wasted his time
[10:50] <Night_Elf> I wasn't meaning that at all. Didn't want to offend anyone. It is just that I imagine different people to be in different channels. There never was an intention to repeat intentionally.
[10:51] <tomreyn> well, now you know (once again, since you were told before) it's not appreciated please don'T do it again.
[10:52] <sazawal> tomreyn, Output of journalctl -kp4 - https://termbin.com/qgi2
[10:53] <korpvarg> when i try to open Opera browser maximized in ubuntu 19.10 and change  Exec=opera %U  to: Exec=opera %U --start-maximized in /usr/share/applications/opera.desktop  it does nothing? Opera still opens minimized ?
[10:54] <tomreyn> sazawal: so i guess this is sdb, you can look at the full output at    journalctl -be    (then scroll up to "............not responding..."), 'q' to quit the viewer)
[10:54] <tomreyn> sazawal: i assume it'll provide more context there. it does look like a communication issue.
[10:55] <korpvarg> how do i open Opera maximized ?  that config in /usr/share/applications/opera.desktop used to work
[10:58] <p0a> korpvarg: does `opera --start-maximized' work for you?
[10:59] <sazawal> tomreyn, Here is the "not responding" part of journalctl -b, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QKWrxPsKQY/
[11:00] <korpvarg> can i add  opera --start-maximized in a symbolic link or do i have to run it as a command in terminal?
[11:03] <tomreyn> sazawal: right, this can be a broken storage. try it on a different usb port, try unplugging all other usb devices you don't strictly require, then reconnect this one. compare the messages    journalctl -f    (cancel with ctrl-c) prints when you do these two tests. if it remains the same, try it on a different computer.
[11:04] <p0a> korpvarg: Edit /usr/share/applications/opera.desktop replacing `Exec=opera %U' to `Exec=opera --start-maximized %U' and repeat for `Exec' under `[Desktop Action NewWindow]' and `[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]'.
[11:04] <tomreyn> sazawal: also double check the connectors between casing and the storage.
[11:05] <chimneys> hi
[11:05] <chimneys> why is there no backlight file on desktop, but on laptop it's always present
[11:06] <ryuo> chimneys: ?
[11:06] <tomreyn> sazawal: the non-crosspost (at the same time) note also goes to you, i assume you already noticed.
[11:06] <ryuo> chimneys: eh?
[11:06] <chimneys> ryuo: ??
[11:06] <ryuo> chimneys: backlight file?
[11:07] <chimneys> yes
[11:07] <ryuo> chimneys: what's that supposed to mean?
[11:07] <chimneys> it means backlight file
[11:07] <tomreyn> a file called "backlight"?
[11:07] <ryuo> well, it means nothing to me. files are not backlit.
[11:08]  * tomreyn doesn't get it either
[11:09] <chimneys> sysfs
[11:09] <chimneys> ls /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/
[11:09] <ryuo> chimneys: desktops don't have backlights normally.
[11:10] <ryuo> screen backlights aren't configurable on a desktop in general.
[11:10] <ryuo> though you can still put the display to sleep.
[11:10] <ryuo> so there's no backlight device to control.
[11:11] <TexadimirLeanin> !backports
[11:11] <TexadimirLeanin> !ppa
[11:12] <TexadimirLeanin> !addppa
[11:13] <chimneys> ryuo: ok so you know wat a backlight is.
[11:14] <chimneys> ryuo: then how do desktops change brightness
[11:14] <chimneys> ryuo: why are they not configurable? modules not present?
[11:14] <chimneys> tomreyn: do you know the modules name to load to make them configurable
[11:15] <ducasse> chimneys: the hardware doesn't support it, nothing to configure
[11:15] <tomreyn> chimneys: you can't, since the desktop hardware has no embedded controller, thus no hardware interface to the backlight. the only option then is to use what can transfer over the display connector.
[11:15] <korpvarg> still wont work Opera still opens minimized
[11:17] <tomreyn> korpvarg: in case you're wondering: there's no opera in ubuntu, it's a third party software. we only really support the software in ubuntu here (sometimes exceptions are made). you can try ##linux maybe.
[11:20] <chimneys> tomreyn: so what do you suggest
[11:21] <chimneys> clearly hardware "supports" brightness change... on windows
[11:21] <chimneys> and on linux too
[11:22] <kristian_on_linu> cheers
[11:23] <kristian_on_linu> just put 18.04 on my "new" T520 ... it just turns off when the battery dies, no warning ... how do I get a system beep (or some other sound) at, say 10% and 5%?
[11:24] <korpvarg> ok yeah i understand,  i'll might ask in the Opera user forums instead  but anyways thanks for the help
[11:28] <tomreyn> chimneys: what is it that you're trying to do? change display brightness? what are you running there? ubuntu version, kernel, architecture?
[11:28] <tomreyn> ...and graphical desktop
[11:34] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: hi there. this suggests acpi is not working well. can you post a complete system log when it can boot again? Just run this in a temrinal and post the url here:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:36] <kristian_on_linu> hi tomrey, what do you mean with "when it can boot again"?
[11:36] <kristian_on_linu> and thanks
[11:37] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: i guess the battery is empty, and you need to recharge it now, at least a little, before you can power it up again. but maybe i just didn't think enough about it. ;-)
[11:37] <kristian_on_linu> ah, it is actually at 80% right now
[11:37] <kristian_on_linu> lemme run the command
[11:37] <friendlyguy> i am sorry to bother you again, but maybe this problem rings a bell for somebody: in filesystem the /var/log/mysql/ folder changes its permissions from mysql:adm to root:root on every reboot, preventing mysql from starting. once i change the owner manually mysql starts fine.
[11:37] <kristian_on_linu> battery is brand new and off-brand, btw
[11:37] <TexadimirLeanin> can i change my ubuntu installation from regular ubuntu to ubuntu-server post-instalation?
[11:38] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/5t3p
[11:39] <Alabalistic> friendlyguy, try adding suid on it
[11:40] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: thanks. i'm looking, this can take a while (it's long). if you like, check the lenovo website for a firmware update for this LENOVO 42434YG/42434YG, BIOS 8AET69WW (1.49 ) 06/14/2018 you have there in the meantime.
[11:41] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: the BIOS is the latest one
[11:41] <friendlyguy> Alabalistic: is the suid bit default for mysql?
[11:42] <kristian_on_linu> I'm not sure I can install firmware on ubuntu?
[11:44] <chimneys> tomreyn: change my brightness the same way on windows pc
[11:44] <chimneys> ubuntu 19.10
[11:44] <chimneys> $ uname -a
[11:44] <chimneys> Linux h 5.0.0-37-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 14 00:14:01 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:45] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: you can in some cases, using lvfs / fwupd (search the web about it)
[11:45] <Alabalistic> friendlyguy, it's a special permission for executabel files, so normal user can execute the file like file owner
[11:45] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: I just found out that pc speaker is blacklisted, someone alerted me to it
[11:46] <Alabalistic> but after that all child processes will be rus as root, so maybe is the worst idea ever
[11:46] <friendlyguy> yeah, i know what suid is. but i am wondering why i would want that for mysql.
[11:46] <tomreyn> chimneys: settings -> devices -> displays may enable you to do so. otherwise i don't know, would just manage it on the monitor directly.
[11:47] <friendlyguy> from a security point of view: it feels like a baaaaad idea.
[11:47] <chimneys> tomreyn: how
[11:48] <tomreyn> chimneys: that's dependant on your hardware, ask in ##hardware if the on screen menu is not self-explanatory. it's not an ubuntu question.
[11:48] <chimneys> under display there is night light option ... how does it change the screen? which cmd does it run internally
[11:49] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: https://paste.ee/p/uhh5y
[11:49] <chimneys> tomreyn: it changes warm color tones not brightness
[11:49] <chimneys> but clearly this is an ubuntu specific Night Light "question"
[11:50] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: so normally what would happen when the battery runs low is that your graphical desktop shows a warning message indicating so, recommending to shutdown. if this does not happen on your system you're either not using gnome-shell or linux was unable to gather realistic values about the charge state from the firmware via acpi
[11:51] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: you don't normally need or want or even have a pc speaker.
[11:52] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: I have an icon on the top that goes red when the battery is low, but I want to hear it also ... the other user suggested that the beep is from the pc speaker
[11:53] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: but there was no on screen prompt to shutdown garcefully? are you using gnome-shell or something else?
[11:53] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: i'm not sure about how to make it do an audible warning about it
[11:54] <tomreyn> usually the bios would trigger that if there was a pcspeaker in there.
[11:54] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: it just went black, boom
[11:56] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: if you use gnome-shell, you can access settings -> power to change how it behaves when the charge runs low.
[11:57] <kristian_on_linu> I don't use that, but I could install it?
[11:58] <kristian_on_linu> I got the gnome tweaks thing, which let me add a percentage to the status bar, but still no sound
[11:59] <tomreyn> kristian_on_linu: what is "that" that you do not use?
[11:59] <kristian_on_linu> ah, sorry ... I meant the gnome shell
[11:59] <kristian_on_linu> ah, I see I have it alread
[12:00] <kristian_on_linu> *already
[12:00] <tomreyn> so which desktop environment do you use then?
[12:00] <kristian_on_linu> just standard Gnome 3
[12:00] <tomreyn> yes, you'll have it then
[12:00] <kristian_on_linu> sorry about the confusion
[12:01] <tomreyn> no problem. i'm afraid that's all i know about this. you could try searching the web for suggestions on getting an audible warning on gnome-shell when the battery runs low.
[12:02] <tomreyn> (unless someone else here or in ##linux knows)
[12:04] <kristian_on_linu> looking into that
[12:04] <kristian_on_linu> however, this feels like a bug? It *should* say something when the battery is critically low, right?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:07] <kristian_on_linu> tomreyn: thanks for the help, will reset later (trying to get some work done)
[12:15] <chimneys> how to make monitor sleep
[12:15] <chimneys> without using hardware button
[12:15] <ducasse> chimneys: 'man xset'
[12:15] <chimneys> ok
[12:16] <chimneys> tell me the exact cmd
[12:17] <ducasse> see the dpms option in the xset man page, it explains everything
[12:20] <chimneys> what is the difference between suspend , standby?
[12:20] <chimneys> off too seems the same
[12:20] <chimneys> I read the man
[12:25] <ducasse> not sure about the difference between suspend and standby, but off should just turn it off
[13:02] <p0a> chimneys: I think it has to do with where the state is saved (ram/disk)
[13:04] <p0a> that is true for suspend versus hibernate. Now I don't know about standby; I think in ubuntu they're the same, standby and suspend.
[13:31] <ducasse> p0a: this is about monitors, not suspending the computer
[13:34] <p0a> ducasse: got it, whoops
[14:03] <chimneys> p0a: no this is about monitor suspend/off ; read above properly
[14:03] <chimneys> so "nothing to save"
[14:03] <chimneys> it has to do with screen not cpu
[16:22] <deadrom> hi
[16:24] <deadrom> 18.04LTS: Wacom issue: older Bamboo tablet, works fine in Windows, used to work fine in Ubuntu but recently in relative mode it occsionally skips when lifting and setting the pen to the corresponding absolute position
[16:24] <deadrom> how can I narrow down what's happening? would like to monitor the positional data for example to see if it is an x input issue
[16:26] <BlueShark_> Hi guys. I did a UEFI installation of Ubuntu 18.04.03 on my PC which already had Windows 10. But when I boot up, it directly goes into Windows 10 without showing grub. Any idea what's happening here?
[16:35] <deadrom> BlueShark_: installed grub when it asked?
[16:35] <HayashiEsme> Oh yeah I had this same issue, try this: https://itsfoss.com/no-grub-windows-linux/
[16:35] <BlueShark_> deadrom: I don't remember it asking for grub installation?
[16:37] <BlueShark_> I had some unallocated free space. After booting up using live USB in UEFI mode, I created one partition for /, one for /home, and one for swap. Chose /dev/sda2 (Windows Boot Manager) partition as the device for installing bootloader. Finished the installation.
[16:38] <BlueShark_> The first time it booted after the installation, everything was working properly. Grub was showing, I could select either Windows or Ubuntu, and it would work correctly.
[16:38] <BlueShark_> But after some time, it started directly going to Windows without even showing grub.
[16:39] <HayashiEsme> BlueShark_: Did you have a look at this?:) https://itsfoss.com/no-grub-windows-linux/
[16:39] <BlueShark_> I think I tried that before, let me try it again.
[16:42] <BlueShark_> Dang!
[16:42] <BlueShark_> It worked this time.
[16:43] <elfatherbrown> Hi hi. Happy new year and all. Quick question: i want to start my normal gnome-based (bionic) ubuntu session with as many as 10 or 20 workspaces.
[16:44] <tomreyn> elfatherbrown: you seem to have forgotten the question.
[16:45] <tomreyn> (or maybe i'm just lacking patience)
[16:46] <elfatherbrown> tomreyn, Ill rephrase that your honour: how can I start my session with an arbitrary number of workspaces (desktops) instead of just 2 for starters.
[16:47] <tomreyn> elfatherbrown: gnome-tweaks -> workspaces -> number of workspaces
[16:48] <tomreyn> and tick "statioc workspaces" if not already ticked
[16:57] <elfatherbrown> Thank you Mr tomreyn. Seems to do the trick.
[16:58] <ShawnY> I'm running into some weird path problem on Pop_OS/Ubuntu and zsh. Can anyone spot something obvious I'm missing here? https://pastebin.com/fWEfwFjV
[16:58] <tomreyn> on Pop_OS or on Ubuntu?
[16:58] <tomreyn> looks like the former
[16:59] <ShawnY> Pop_OS, which of course is just Ubuntu + mods.
[16:59] <tomreyn> and too different to support it here
[16:59] <tomreyn> !derivatives
[16:59] <devster> hi, I just plugged a couple new drives into a SuperMicro X9 something running Ubuntu 18.04, they're not showing up though  in /dev/disk or /sys/block... what am I missing?
[17:00] <tomreyn> devster: i assume its powered up? :) was it running already when you attached those?
[17:01] <devster> yes, hotswapped
[17:01] <devster> 4 other drives in, working fine
[17:01] <tomreyn> https://termbin.com/cnsk
[17:02] <devster> they're not in the /sys/class/scsi_host list
[17:02] <tomreyn> that's assuming those are on the scsi / sata bus
[17:02] <tomreyn> hmm, does your system support hotplug?
[17:02] <devster> I believe so, how would I check?
[17:03] <tomreyn> mainboard documentation, controller documentation
[17:03] <tomreyn> was anything written to dmesg when you attached those drives?
[17:05] <HayashiEsme> Question: A lot of the documentation I've clicked through so far on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ seems to be fairly outdated. Is there a newer wiki I'm missing?
[17:06] <devster> doesn't seem to be anything in dmesg... backplane seems hot-swappable, drives are hot now so power goes through
[17:08] <tomreyn> powered drives doesn't mean the controller knows about them, nor the mainboard / firmware
[17:08] <tomreyn> here's another try: sudo find /sys/devices/pci* -type d -name 'ata[0-9]*'
[17:08] <devster> still only 6 drives showing up unfortunately...
[17:09] <matlock> HayashiEsme What are you interested in contributing on? Maybe updating some wiki pages might be a place to start. I recently worked on cleaning up the derivative page and added a page for Hyper-V.
[17:09] <devster> missing 2
[17:09] <tomreyn> do you have a separate storage controller?
[17:10] <tomreyn> whicat kinds of disks are these, connected how?
[17:10] <tomreyn> *what kind  of
[17:10] <devster> backplane should be directly plugged into the motherboard, disks are hgst ultrastar connected via sata, huh721010ale600, the others are huh728080ale600
[17:11] <tomreyn> sounds like you need to resort to the mainboard + backplane manual, review bios setup configuration
[17:11] <tomreyn> +reboot
[17:11] <devster> will do, thanks... manual will be difficult
[17:12] <tomreyn> how so? supermicro got manuals.
[17:12] <tomreyn> you can even contact their support chat about it.
[17:13] <devster> X9 are very old, I believe they discontinued them
[17:13] <HayashiEsme> matlock I'd love to work on the code that runs Ubuntu, but I understand I should probably start working towards the Ubuntu membership first getting my feet wet in open source via helping up with Universe packages. Are there any packages I can help out just to have an idea of what goes on behind developing for stuff in open source?
[17:14] <HayashiEsme> (Of course at some point when I feel like I know stuff I'd probably update the wiki like I mean I know peanuts at this point lmfao)
[17:18] <tomreyn> devster: they're still online, but we're off-topic here. can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[17:19] <devster> no problem, thanks for the info, I'll try to reboot first, see if that does it
[17:23] <tomreyn> HayashiEsme: there's no newer ubuntu wiki unfortunatel. yes, much is outdated, but there are still people fighting the windmill fight
[17:24] <tomreyn> and even the partially outdated articles can still be quite helpful. but this is probably more of a topic for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-doc rather
[17:24] <HayashiEsme> Ha ha I'll update stuff as I see them then, thanks:) tomreyn
[17:25] <HayashiEsme> Oh right. Do people watch that IRC? It kinda seems like every other channel besides #ubuntu is pretty quiet
[17:54] <eamonnmr> I'm back, still trying to upgrade my HDD... I've got the HDD I plan on putting in installed in an external enclosure. There's got to be a simple way to have Clonezilla copy the entire HDD over, right? Anyone have a link to a tut or some such?
[17:57] <jeremy31> eamonnmr: Plenty of info on clonezilla site, get the source and destination drives correct or you will have 2 blank drives
[17:58] <eamonnmr> Yeah, it's giving me the option to use sdb (the external, blank) drive as a source, but not my existing HDD
[17:58] <jeremy31> eamonnmr: are you booted on the source drive?
[17:58] <eamonnmr> Yes
[17:58] <eamonnmr> (is that wrong? Should I not have done that?)
[17:59] <jeremy31> eamonnmr: use the clonezilla ISO on a USB thumbdrive
[18:00] <eamonnmr> Ok, sweet, maybe that's where I've been going so wrong
[18:04] <eamonnmr> Writing a disc now, wish me luck
[18:29] <pat^> hi. i am trying to install ubuntu server (18.04.3) on a diskless server on an iscsi volume. the installer does not allow me to add any iscsi volumes although according to the documentation it should. are there any options i am missing?
[18:32] <kxsl> you might need to use the alternate installer for that
[18:37] <pat^> kxsl: thanks, i will try that
[18:40] <ioria> pat^, have you already checked  this ? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/installation-iscsi/11321
[18:41] <pat^> ioria: yep. that is basically the same as the official documentation. but the standard installer does not even complain that there are no discs. also there is no option regarding iscsi in the manual menu
[18:42] <ioria> pat^, i see
[18:42] <pat^> ioria: it just offers me to create an lvm / md raid without any disks :)
[18:51] <pat^> kxsl: the alternate installer does work, thanks
[18:54] <newwen> Hiya! New to Ubuntu, I’ve installed on an old pc while my windows machine is inaccessible. Trying to get a network connection, No networks are showing up so I’m guessing I need a driver for my WiFi antenna. Can anyone tell me how to go about installing this once I’ve found it¿
[18:57] <newwen> Okay, nvm. Found I need ndiswrapper
[18:57] <jeremy31> newwen: what adapter do you have?
[18:59] <newwen> jeremy31 netgear wna3100. Gonna have go download ndiswrapper looks like
[19:00] <jeremy31> newwen: Buy a different adapter and use a hammer on the netgear
[19:00] <newwen> jeremy31 found the chipset and got a driver already :/
[19:00] <jeremy31> newwen: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264020&highlight=wna3100
[19:04] <newwen> This process already makes me want to use a hammer on my face
[19:05] <tomreyn> tethering through a smartphone may be more convenient
[19:05] <tomreyn> and less error prone
[19:06] <newwen> @tomreyn tethering in what sense sorry
[19:06] <jeremy31> newwen: connect smartphone to wifi and use USB tethering
[19:07] <tomreyn> for lack of a better network device
[19:07] <newwen> ...well that’s something I didn’t know was possible¡ thanks friends
[19:09] <jeremy31> newwen: There are plenty of wifi devices out there that work in Ubuntu, some may need source code from github.  If you have open internal PCI slot, get an Intel 7260 that will fit the slot
[19:11] <jeremy31> Some USB wifi that work https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2309068
[19:14] <kxsl> how do i install a minimal gnome desktop? i don't need all the games, office suite, etc... just the UI and the toolbars
[19:15] <OerHeks> something with no-install-recommends ?
[19:15] <ioria> kxsl,  the new installer should have a 'minimal' option , iirc
[19:16] <kxsl> is there a package name? ubuntu is already installed
[19:17] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends, or the miimal option in the 18.04 installer indeed
[19:19] <kxsl> OerHeks, looks promising, trying now. thank you
[19:47] <PCatinean> Hi guys, does anyone here have experience with setting up Gerbera (MediaTomb) for upnp server and playing media content on android devices?
[19:48] <PCatinean> I have installed gerbera, it seems to be running and I can use the interface locally but I can't seem to discover it over the network using the android apps
[19:48] <PCatinean> I can see just chromecasts and other devices on the network
[19:48] <conr> best way to send large files over ssh remotely? rsync or scp or other?
[19:52] <tomreyn> rsync
[19:53] <conr> tomreyn: i'm trying rsync but it just does one file and times out
[19:53] <conr> flags -avWP
[19:57] <tomreyn> why -W ?
[19:57] <conr> whole file
[19:58] <conr> no need to check if its older or new, its the first time sending
[19:58] <tomreyn> oh first time, ok.
[19:59] <tomreyn> so is it a network problem that it times out?
[19:59] <tomreyn> does it not trasnfer anything at all?
[19:59] <tomreyn> maybe you do not want W to prevent it from trying to copy too much at once.
[20:01] <conr> it transfers 1 or 2 files then times out
[20:03] <conr> both have strong connection is 1Gbit the other is 300Mbp
[20:05] <eamonnmr> Success! Clonezilla did the thing perfectly
[20:05] <eamonnmr> But now I have 600 extra gb of unallocated space
[20:05] <eamonnmr> I'd like to use that partition for both Linux and Win10
[20:06] <eamonnmr> How should I format it/configure it so that both Ubuntu and Windows will be able to read/write by default? (I'm sure there's a tutorial out there)
[20:07] <leftyfb> eamonnmr: you could boot with a live cd and resize both the Windows and Ubuntu partitions to utilize that partition as you see fit
[20:08] <eamonnmr> I was hoping to have A place to store, for example, music samples which I might want to use in both Linux and Windows
[20:08] <leftyfb> ok, then do that
[20:08] <leftyfb> format as FAT32 for both to access
[20:09] <eamonnmr> Does it matter if make the partition managed in windows or Ubuntu?
[20:09] <eamonnmr> **use the partition manager
[20:11] <rfm> a 600GB FAT32 file system would have a gigantic cluster size, wouldn't it?  I think NTFS would be a better choice, the linux/ubuntu ntfs implementation has been pretty good for a while
[20:11] <seere> rfm: +1, I would suggest NTFS too in this case.
[20:11] <eamonnmr> Will it treat the partition as read-only?
[20:12] <seere> eamonnmr: no, NTFS on Linux has r/w support for years now.
[20:16] <eamonnmr> So if I make it in gparted it'll hopefully just work? Ok cool, I'll try that out.
[20:21] <eamonnmr> Owch, windows thinks it has the maximum number of partitions already (four seems low for that!) I'll try Ubuntu ...
[20:22] <rfm> eamonnmr, no, 4 partitions is the limit for DOS disk labels.   You can create the 4th partition as a "extended" partition, though, and create partitions within that.
[20:23] <eamonnmr> Is there a way to achieve that without destroying one of the existing four partitions?
[20:23] <OerHeks> eamonnmr, you need to remove 1 partition, to make an extended one..
[20:23] <OerHeks> or start over, and format the disk not mbr, but GPT
[20:24] <PCatinean> I tried with minidlna as well and it doesn't work
[20:25] <eamonnmr> Actually, hmm, /dev/sda4, my Ubuntu partition is already 'extended'
[20:25] <eamonnmr> Could I resize sda5 to use the space then create a logical partition under it?
[20:26] <ioria> eamonnmr, maybe pasting 'sudo parted -ls' would clear the situation
[20:28] <eamonnmr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4HfhFjSWWX/
[20:31] <eamonnmr> Is there anything I could have done differently in clonezilla to change the partitions to logical partitions while copying? I saw an option to resize the old partitions proportionally to fill the new disc and I thought I checked it, but it didn't seem to do the thing
[20:33] <eamonnmr> I would just reinstall ubuntu and make a new huge partition but I'd like Windows to be able to be able to use the new partition too. Would I be able to do that if I blew away the existing extended ubuntu partition and made a new one and then made a logical NTFS partition while installing?
[20:34] <ioria> eamonnmr, do the maths; i guess you missed half of the disk
[20:34] <eamonnmr> Not so much missed as "cloned a smaller disc into a larger disc"
[20:35] <eamonnmr> Which is nice inasmuch as I can still boot my system, but it isn't using the additional space.
[20:35] <rfm> eamonnmr, the problem is partition 3 is allocated at the 317GB mark, after partition 4, preventing partition 4 from expanding.
[20:36] <ioria> eamonnmr, not directly related, but you're using win7 ?
[20:37] <eamonnmr> No, win10
[20:37] <ioria> ok
[20:37] <rfm> eamonnmr, if you're willing to blow away the ubuntu partition and reinstall, then I'd do that, then delete partitions 4 and 5, move partition 3 up against the end of partition 2, then create new partition 4 (extended) occupying the whole rest of the disk, 5 within 4 (to hold ubuntu) and 6 within 4 (for the shared data partition
[20:39] <eamonnmr> As painful as it would be to blow away the ubuntu partition I've got all of the files backed up, I still have the old drive, and I've got an install bash script which should mostly set up the PC how I want it...
[20:40] <eamonnmr> Is all of that possible in the graphical partition editor that ships with the installer?
[20:40] <ioria> eamonnmr, maybe you can resize2fs sd3
[20:40] <ioria> sda3
[20:41] <ioria> eamonnmr, then make new partitions on it
[20:42] <ioria> eamonnmr, gparted is good, yes
[20:42] <rfm> eamonnmr, it would also be possible to move partition 3 up to the top of the disk, then resize partition 4;   Shouldn't have to resize partition 5 or resize the fs in it, but not sure...
[20:43] <eamonnmr> Maybe I could move it from KPM right now?
[20:44] <eamonnmr> Oh I see, I can't swap-in-place two partitions
[20:44] <eamonnmr> because you can only change the start/end points of a given partition
[20:44] <eamonnmr> hmm
[20:44] <eamonnmr> Whelp I can always restore from the same backup if it goes sideways
[20:45] <eamonnmr> might as well give it a shot with the reinstall
[20:45] <eamonnmr> Thanks a bunch all!
[20:45] <ioria> eamonnmr, why don't you open gparted  ?
[20:45] <eamonnmr> wow that installs fast on an ssd
[20:46] <eamonnmr> So when you say "move" partition 3... it'll only let me move it right, into the block of unallocated space
[20:47] <eamonnmr> If I, say, drag that all the way to the edge... I'd be able to add space to partition 4.... let's see!
[20:48] <eamonnmr> Oh, but it won't let me futz with the partition that's mounted
[20:49] <rfm> eamonnmr, right.  booting a live dvd (like the ubuntu install dvd) is the thing to do when doing partition surgery
[20:51] <eamonnmr> Whelp I'll need to dig up a spare flash drive then. I heard some tell that resizing the boot partition would require doing something else to make Ubuntu bootable again
[20:51] <eamonnmr> does that apply to resizing the extended ('parent?') partition, or just the logical partition it's installed on
[20:58] <eamonnmr> (ie will I need to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 )
[21:37] <extor> Is there anything other than xrdp + rdp that will connect the desktop of one ubuntu laptop to another? I set up xrdp but when I redesktop to the xrdp server, I get a login screen but after that it's blank green wallpaper. Perhaps a vnc variant? I'd like to run Lxde as my manager too if possible.
[21:41] <EriC^^> eamonnmr: did you fix it? i dont know if you mentioned it, but in theory you can get the starting/end sectors, delete the extended one, recreate it to encompass the last portion and recreate the logical ones in the same place + the ntfs one you want
[21:44] <rfm> extor, xrdp runs a very simple session (/etc/X11/Xsession) by default.  I was able to get it to run xfce by editing the bottom of /etc/xdrp/startwm.sh to run /usr/bin/startxfce4 instead of /etc/X11/Xsession.  There may be an equivalent for Lxde but I don't know anything about it.
[21:57] <tomreyn> eamonnmr: your installer has read errors, either the installer iso you downloaded was corrupt or what you wrote to the installer storage was.
[21:57] <tomreyn> !md5 | eamonnmr
[22:02] <eamonnmr> @tomreyn: what?
[22:02] <tomreyn> eamonnmr: what i wrote
[22:02] <tomreyn> that's in response to your bug report
[22:07] <eamonnmr> I am unaware of writing a bug report?
[22:07] <tomreyn> eamonnmr: sorry then, very simiar nickname
[22:07] <ducasse> extor: there is also x2go. haven't used it myself.
[22:10] <eamonnmr> That may be the first name collision I've ever encountered-I have a very uncommon name. First time for everything I guess!
[22:11] <tomreyn> bug 1858297
[22:17] <Blueking> what was command to use console cable to switch on cli in ubuntu ?
[22:18] <Blueking> minicom ?
[22:19] <tomreyn> are you asking about a software to use for a serial connection / console via RS-232?
[22:20] <Blueking> I have used it before but forgotten howto :P
[22:20] <tomreyn> if so, minicom would work, also hnu screen or tmux or byobu
[22:20] <tomreyn> *GNU Screen
[22:20] <Blueking> have none gui.. just cli
[22:21] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[22:21] <tomreyn> all of the above run in a terminal just fine.
[22:23] <Blueking> OerHeks  thnx :)
[22:44] <extor> rfm, should I switch to  xvnc server?
[22:55] <Stoot> are there still dell firmware repo's for Ubuntu ?
[23:01] <OerHeks> Stoot, no active one, fwupd is now part of linux, so no need to do so anymore
[23:01] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~dell-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[23:01] <Stoot> OerHeks yes I found that out but that doesn't grab the software you need does it ?
[23:01] <OerHeks> indeed, it is dead
[23:01] <Stoot> that sucks
[23:02] <OerHeks> for what dell model?
[23:02] <Stoot> R410
[23:06] <psiphre> i've somehow managed to hose my apt sources.list.  trying to add winehq as a source, but now with any apt command i'm getting "malformed entry 52", even if i comment out line 52.
[23:07] <OerHeks> Stoot, i think you are bound to the dell repo like this: https://oitibs.com/dell-openmanage-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[23:07] <Ben64> psiphre: pastebin the sources.list
[23:08] <Stoot> OerHeks that looks nice,t hanks, I report back!
[23:09] <Stoot> OerHeks great on my 20G connection :P
[23:09] <extor> Is there a standard way of running a vnc server on a headless box? I want to run preferably Lxde as my window manager and bind the vnc server to a virtual video card driver
[23:10] <extor> And then either rdp or vnc to it and still be able to run my apps
[23:12] <Stoot> OerHeks I might need to try to install fedora
[23:12] <Stoot> which is sad
[23:13] <Stoot> I'm sad
[23:48] <seven-eleven> hi
[23:48] <seven-eleven> should i install nvidia's driver from its website or from ubuntus repo?
[23:48] <ducasse> from repo
[23:49] <seven-eleven> ok
[23:49] <ducasse> if you need a newer one, use the graphics-drivers ppa
[23:49] <seven-eleven> ok
[23:49] <seven-eleven> let me try adding that
[23:50] <seven-eleven> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[23:57] <aircraftblues> anyone else use qtile?
[23:57] <seven-eleven> installed the 400 nvidia driver, now I simply reboot?
[23:57] <ducasse> seven-eleven: yep, should be
[23:58] <seven-eleven> thanks
[23:58] <ducasse> yw


[01:06] <messerve> With all the work being done for on the ubuntu phone, can you give a time frame for the release of the phone to Canada?
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[14:51] <popey> \o/
[14:56] <omast90> hi everybody
[14:57] <FBI> hey
[14:57] <mhall119> o/
[14:57] <Guest57803> wtf
[14:57] <Guest57803> hey admin
[14:58] <Guest57803> i need document about ssh
[14:58] <Guest57803> I NEED DOCUMENT ABOUT SSH
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[14:59] <Guest57803> I NEED DOCUMENT ABOUT SSH
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[14:59] <omast90> .i'v installed ubuntu on vmplayer...my question is..it's true that all kernel routine are running in user mode and not in kernel mode
[14:59] <justCarakas> stop spamming
[14:59] <Guest57803> I NEED DOCUMENT ABOUT SSH
[15:00] <Guest57803> I NEED DOCUMENT ABOUT SSH
[15:00] <Guest57803> I NEED DOCUMENT ABOUT SSH
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[15:00] <rghvdberg> dude
[15:00] <rghvdberg> thnx
[15:00] <DS-McGuire> Thank God.
[15:00] <mok_> spam spam spam and potatoes
[15:00] <FROST_> hello from germany
[15:00] <justCarakas> a round of applause for dholbach the killer of spam :p
[15:00] <mhall119> please be patient and respectful and you will be treated with patience and respect
[15:00] <mok_> hello from spain
[15:00] <rghvdberg> hura
[15:01] <justCarakas> you are live
[15:01] <justCarakas> hey Juje007
[15:01] <dholbach> please prefix your questions with QUESTION:
[15:02] <Juje007> Hey justCarakas
[15:02] <Arron_> QUESTION: can i run all ubuntu programs on my galaxy note 2 using linux deploy?
[15:02] <dholbach> so we can more easily pick them up
[15:03] <justCarakas> QUESTION is the ubuntu next in a far enough stage already to give it a try ?
[15:03] <omast90> QUESTION ubuntu on vmware so...alla routine kernel are runned by kernel mode or user mode?
[15:03] <mok_> is posible view this video on youtube later with spanish subtitles
[15:03] <mok_> ?
[15:04] <dholbach> mok_, not sure there'll be subtitles, sorry
[15:05] <dholbach> more desktop questions?
[15:05] <mok_> but using youtube traduction service?
[15:05] <willcooke> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin
[15:05] <willcooke> #ubuntukylin-devel
[15:05] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Well, what can we expect from Unity 8 on the desktop as of what we know now?
[15:05] <FROST_> QUESTION: Is a version planned for developers? For example for Android developers?
[15:06] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Where is that unity 8 + mir iso?
[15:06] <justCarakas> QUESTION how about firefox on unity 8 ?
[15:07] <willcooke> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/
[15:07] <willcooke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso
[15:07] <mok_> bye people. was great tiem
[15:08] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: What can we expect from Unity 7 in the next 2 years since it is still default?
[15:08] <FROST_> QUESTION: Is a version planned for developers? For example for Android developers?
[15:09] <DS-McGuire> Give us some screenshots if you have any!
[15:11] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: I am using ubuntu touch on my nexus 4, when will application loading times be improved? Before the RTM?
[15:11] <justCarakas> QUESTION you keep talking about chromium in unity 8, will chromium become the new default ?
[15:12] <mhall119> magical didrocks script, lol
[15:13] <jakub_benko_> QUESTION: Will be Ubuntu Touch ready for other phones than Nexux phones??
[15:13] <Arronw> QUESTION: When will ubuntu phone os come to the galaxy note 2 n7100?
[15:14] <omast90> QUESTION: what is job scheduler  used into ubuntu?
[15:16] <FROST_> cheers to the pool :D
[15:16] <didrocks> mhall119: set -e is the magic :p
[15:17] <FROST_> Question: What about Plasma 5? When do you think it is stable?
[15:21] <mhall119> didrocks: lol
[15:22] <mhall119> FROST_: we had shadeslayer from Kubuntu on a a couple weeks ago, you can re-watch that (after this one of course) here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pua8vWAMdfk
[15:23] <FROST_> Ahh, thanks :)
[15:23] <Kapanda> Question: Has the bug with Ubuntu 14.04 consending internet connection been fix, because I had quit a huge problem trouble shooting it.
[15:23] <didrocks> Kapanda: do you have any launchpad bug number to point us at?
[15:24] <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:24] <Kapanda> No
[15:24] <Kapanda> I do have a launchpad account tho
[15:24] <didrocks> Kapanda: not sure which bug you are talking about then. Opening a launchpad bug will help as a first step to diagnosis the problem (meaning: you are the first I heard about this problem)
[15:25] <DS-McGuire> no
[15:25] <Detrix> Question: What's up with the long turn around time for Ubuntu's developers?  Whats's with the lack of coherent info on packaging .deb files on your own?
[15:26] <mhall119> thanks willcooke, thanks didrocks
[15:26] <didrocks> thanks guys!
[15:27] <DS-McGuire> The developer desktop sounds awesome, keep us posted about.
[15:27] <FROST_> Thanks guys :)
[15:27] <didrocks> DS-McGuire: will do for sure!
[15:27] <DS-McGuire> and popey get on LUP ;) We need you back on their as the voice of Ubuntu hahah!
[15:28] <DS-McGuire> Byeee
[15:29] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Is ambience and radiance going to be killed off with Unity 8?
[15:29] <DS-McGuire> I did notice that haha
[15:31] <mhall119> ambiance is the default UITK theme in Unity 8
[15:31] <mhall119> the only one currently, I think
[15:32] <DS-McGuire> mhall119: UITK?
[15:32] <mhall119> User Interface Toolkit
[15:32] <DS-McGuire> mhall119: Ah, makes :D
[15:32] <Kapanda> Question: How do I go about filing a bug report please email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:32] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: When do you expect ubuntu touch to become a serious competitor in the mobile space?
[15:33] <mhall119> Kapanda: find the Launchpad project for what you are filing a bug against, and click the "Report a bug" link on the right side
[15:34] <Kapanda> Thanks <+mhall119>
[15:34] <mhall119> ls /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/
[15:34] <mhall119> you'll see Ambiance, SuruDark and SuruGradient
[15:34] <mhall119> but as dholbach says, it's not fully worked out how multiple themes are going to be supported
[15:34] <dholbach> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[15:35] <DS-McGuire> Thanks guys
[15:36] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: If there are no questions about the desktop is there is anything cool about UBuntu touch you want to show us?
[15:36] <Arronw> QUESTION: why dont you support more devices like cyanogenmod or omnirom ?
[15:36] <anastasia> hello i have some issues with ubuntu dekstop
[15:37] <DS-McGuire> anastasia: This is not a place for troubleshooting, go to #ubuntu on freenode for help.
[15:37] <FROST_> Question: A little funny question: On which plattform is ubuntu developed?
[15:37] <mhall119> DS-McGuire: I posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC2v2uaxo4 just yesterday, I find it pretty cool
[15:37] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Will there be a way to buy the Ubuntu Touch phones directly from Canonical?
[15:38] <DS-McGuire> mhall119: Yes! Thank you, I am always on the lookout for new stuff being demoed :)
[15:39] <anastasia> ok another guestion about desktop as years goes by i have seen many changes in ubuntu being started at ubuntu 10 can you answer but why we have to pay when ubuntu is a free open source?
[15:40] <nshiell> "Drive by fix"
[15:40] <omast90> QUESTION:how canocial earn if your software is free?
[15:41] <ThomasVogler> QUESTION: If obs-studio goes to a stable release, would you guys switch away from Google Hangouts?
[15:42] <FROST_> Question: Is there any way to run Ubuntu and Android on the same device with a special bootloader?
[15:42] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: There have those who have rightly or wrongly disparage canonical's converged strategy. Do you think that, with Ubuntu recent success in the emerging market that this direction is stunting innovation on the desktop?
[15:43] <DS-McGuire> popey: As a nerd... I love that. Every morning!
[15:44] <FROST_> QUESTION: Is there any way to run Ubuntu and Android on the same device with a special bootloader?
[15:47] <Kapanda> Question: What other phone devices can I load  ubuntu, i have an HTC runing on android which i would like to change
[15:49] <Booola> will ubuntu catch up to Fedora/Redhat with the Samba4/AD initiative?
[15:50] <mhall119> Kapanda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:51] <mhall119> FROST_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation
[15:51] <FROST_> Thank you :)
[15:51] <mhall119> np :)
[15:52] <Rosluck> hi
[15:54] <mhall119> the age issue has been fixed, IIRC
[15:54] <mhall119> the CPU and China issues....no so much
[15:55] <mhall119> video recording and hosting are key elements that make Hangouts work for us, so any alternative would need to provide that too
[15:56] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation
[15:56] <nshiell> QUESTION: what IDE is best for developing for Ubuntu?
[15:56] <mhall119> nshiell: apps or the distro itself/
[15:56] <mhall119> ?
[16:00] <Booola> @popey Ubuntu has partnered with Zentyal for AD/Exchange development.  What is Ubuntu's opinion on this distro?
[16:00] <mhall119> Global Jam! http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2868/
[16:01] <Knightmare_> QUESTION: I am using ubuntu touch on my nexus 4, when will application loading times be improved? Before the RTM?
[16:01] <euclid> thank you guys !
[16:01] <DS-McGuire> Thanks guys! :D
[16:01] <mhall119> thanks dholbach, thanks popey
[16:01] <Booola> dick<suck
[16:02] <Knightmare_> Thanks
[16:02] <dholbach> thanks everyone for the great questions!
[16:03] <dholbach> Knightmare_, sorry we didn't get around to the question
[16:03] <dholbach> Knightmare_, you could ask on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- that's where all the folks hang out - they might have a better idea of which bugs specifically are on the TODO list
[16:05] <Knightmare_> np dholbach. ill post my question there.
[16:05] <dholbach> cool!
[16:39] <arun__> hi
[17:02] <compunaut> compunaut real name is Louis Benton
[17:22] <Nothing_Much> oh darn, I missed the airing :(