[00:32] <user|56109> Hello. How do I dual boot kubuntu and windows 10? I have windows 10 as my primary os. I have partitioned the hard drive. Is there anything else or special I need to do?
[01:51] <valorie> !dual-boot
[06:20] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:44] <IrcsomeBot1> Chamara Abeysekara was added by: Chamara Abeysekara
[06:51] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/L0UVIhKk/file_2330.jpg
[06:51] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> hi! im new kubuntu and recently the font become blurry in the settings app(it's fine in dolphin). when I installed it, it was fine but suddenly become blurry. I tried changing the anti- aliasing it didn't work either. my laptop is Acer Aspire e5-575G. please help I couldn't find any solutions.
[06:52] <lordievader> Did you change the screenscaling?
[06:53] <lordievader> Or did you force a font DPI?
[06:54] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> Please I'm sorry I have to ask how do I change the screenscaling? yes I tried force font DPI 96
[06:56] <lordievader> Does the blurring go away when the dpi is not forced?
[06:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> no it is the same before and after.
[07:01] <lordievader> Did you log out and login?
[07:01] <lordievader> These kind of setting might need that.
[07:02] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> you were right
[07:03] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> it is because  I changed the scale
[07:04] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> I scaled it because everything was so small and I couldn't see
[07:05] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> please can you help me to scale it bigger with out blurring the font?
[07:06] <lordievader> Err, I have never done that.
[07:08] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> or is there a way to make things bigger without scaling?
[07:08] <lordievader> What version of Plasma5 are you running?
[07:12] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> im running kubuntu 16.10
[07:15] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> im running plasma 5.7.5
[07:18] <lordievader> Do you have backports enabled? This might have improved in newer versions.
[07:20] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> I'm sorry I new to this and I don't know about that how do I check if it's enabled or not?
[07:20] <IrcsomeBot1> benvantende was removed by: benvantende
[07:21] <lordievader> If you don't know how, you probably didn't ;)
[07:21] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> yes I think so too!
[07:21] <lordievader> In a terminal run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[07:23] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> it's running
[07:57] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> ok it's done
[07:57] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> should I restart ?
[07:58] <lordievader> Yes
[07:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> ok!
[08:06] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> I tried scaling again it's till there
[08:13] <lordievader> Hmm :(
[08:13] <lordievader> Does it also happen when you don't do the scaling but the forcing of a DPI?
[08:13] <lordievader> Font DPI that is.
[08:14] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> hmm! let me try!
[08:18] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> yes it works!
[08:18] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> thank
[08:18] <lordievader> Good to hear.
[08:19] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> thank you so much for your help!
[08:24] <lordievader> No problem.
[10:15] <Guest73871> hi
[10:15] <Guest73871> noob here
[10:15] <diogenes_> hi noob
[10:15] <Guest73871> booted up Kubuntu, no desktop only taskbar
[10:15] <Guest73871> live boot of course
[10:17] <diogenes_> radeon?
[10:17] <Guest73871> No, nvidia
[10:18] <diogenes_> lenovo?
[10:21] <Guest73871> yup
[10:21] <diogenes_> useless
[10:21] <diogenes_> garbage
[10:21] <Guest73871> will it resolve if I install it?
[10:21] <Guest73871> because im running the live version
[10:22] <diogenes_> any pc except lenovo
[10:22] <Guest73871> even thinkpad? :(
[10:22] <diogenes_> if it's new then ask for refund
[10:23] <Guest73871> no, its from 2014
[10:23] <diogenes_> inm thinkpad is ok, lenovo rebrand the most crappy thing
[10:24] <diogenes_> ibm*
[10:24] <Guest73871> so in conclusion, any KDE will not work? Even Neon or Mint?
[10:25] <diogenes_> xubuntu or opensuse xfce would
[10:27] <Guest73871> no, I mean KDE. Not other DEs
[10:27] <diogenes_> try solydk
[10:27] <diogenes_> it uses kde4
[10:30] <Guest73871> This is so sad. I want Plasma 5... but OK :\
[10:32] <diogenes_> trust me, you'll be pleased with 4 much more than with buggy 5
[10:33] <diogenes_> and besides
[10:33] <diogenes_> solydk is semir-olling
[10:34] <Guest73871> I think I will stick with Zorin 12 until they fix the KDE 5 problem.
[10:34] <Herebord> Where can I add additional keyboard layouts? I really can't find the settings, I already tried system settings -> regional and system settings -> input
[10:36] <diogenes_> Herebord, type keyboard
[10:37] <Herebord> diogenes_, there is only: Hardware, Belegungen and Erweitert
[10:38] <Herebord> dioegenes_, lol, ok, found it
[10:39] <diogenes_> Herebord, :)
[10:39] <Herebord> diogenes_, it's so stupid, I should change the language to English, I'm a native German speaker, but I better understand English on the computer. The most translations are crap, lost 10mins lol
[10:40] <diogenes_> Herebord, ja, naturelich
[10:40] <Herebord> diogenes_, :>
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:54] <Deeno> Is there a way to directly go into linux boot mode
[14:55] <lordievader> Linux boot mode? What do you mean with that?
[14:56] <Deeno> I don't mean grub. I mean command line only mode.
[14:56] <Deeno> I need to repartition there. :(
[14:58] <Deeno> I have a solid state drive. Is it permanently damaged? Does SSDs have EPROMs?
[14:58] <Deeno> PROMs probably for short.
[14:58] <Deeno> It is a hardware question.
[14:59] <Deeno> Thank you for your time.
[15:10] <lordievader> Deeno: Are you looking for a text mode or something?
[15:10]  * lordievader doesn't fully understand.
[15:32] <diogenes_> lordievader, try ctrl+alt+f1 or f2
[16:37] <Trioxin> Here are some bugs I've noticed in Kubuntu: https://hastebin.com/qolucupiyo.sql . Guess I'll have to go report them and dump all kinds of stuff.
[16:45] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> hi! was here early about about problem and now I have encounter another. I new this! my problem now is that suddenly after a shutdown and power on all the animation stopped working and has become so laggy   I checked if I disable animation or not, it's enabled. tried changing my graphic drives to X Server from NVIDIA (recommend is NVIDIA) can any one please help me?
[16:46] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> PS when I try switch back to NVIDIA driver it fails
[16:53] <Trioxin> is it a bad idea to enable the backports repo to get a more current version of KDE?
[16:55] <IrcsomeBot1> <Chamara Abeysekara> I already did that
[20:18] <northernGuy> hi
[22:25] <deeno> I am trying to fix the partition table of my Solid State Drive. I have lost its capacity with multiple installations.
[22:38] <Dragnslcr> deeno- are you use the KDE Partition Manager?
[22:38] <Dragnslcr> Er, using
[22:43] <deeno> I used it.
[22:43] <deeno> yes.
[22:46] <Dragnslcr> So what exactly is the problem that you're having?
[22:49] <deeno> Partition table is bad. I have lost space.
[22:50] <deeno> are you going to deny everything or have me wait?
[23:03] <Dragnslcr> If the partition table is corrupted, you'll probably have to create a new one. Remember that you'll lose data if you do that.
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> If there was data on the disk, then you might be able to repair the partition table instead
[23:04] <Salo187> Hi guys
[23:04] <Salo187> Is it normal not finding the "try without installing" on the grub menu? I was used to that on ubuntu
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> On the Kubuntu live CD?
[23:05] <Salo187> ya, on a pen drive made with unetbootin
[23:06] <Salo187> with the 16 LTS iso
[23:07] <OerHeks> not in grub, it should after boot
[23:07] <Salo187> only option is to start kubuntu, which btw doesn't start at all
[23:07] <OerHeks> * after country/keyboard iirc
[23:08] <Dragnslcr> I don't think the Kubuntu live CD has a "just install" mode anymore
[23:09] <Dragnslcr> You boot the live CD to the desktop, and there's an icon there to start the installer
[23:10] <Salo187> how's that?
[23:11] <Salo187> so I made the usb, booted to grub menu, and got 3 choices
[23:11] <Salo187> Start kubuntu / OEM install / Check disk for errors
[23:12] <Salo187> and the start kubuntu (which I chose but not sure if it was for an installer or for testing w/o install) didn't work
[23:12] <Salo187> thing is tried to install KDE over my ubuntu and it got messed up
[23:13] <Salo187> and now all I wanted was to fresh clean install kubuntu there
[23:16] <Dragnslcr> You'll need to be more specific than just saying it doesn't work
[23:17] <Salo187> sorry
[23:18] <Salo187> so i press enter and it just freezes
[23:18] <Salo187> no input on screen
[23:18] <Salo187> not even logo
[23:18] <Salo187> no disk or cpu activity
[23:19] <Salo187> my pc always ran ubuntu 16 fllawlessly
[23:20] <Salo187> msi z170 Motherboard, intel cpu 6600, nvidia 970 gpu
[23:23] <Salo187> already tried to redo the usb
[23:23] <Salo187> fat, exFat, went the same
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> My first guess is usually a video driver issue
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> I haven't used nVidia or AMD/ATI cards for years, though, so I can't help much
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> Which version of Kubuntu are you trying to install?
[23:25] <Salo187> kubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:26] <Salo187> in ubuntu the gpu works fine
[23:26] <Salo187> both with the default open driver and the proprietary
[23:27] <Dragnslcr> Weird
[23:27] <Dragnslcr> Might be worth trying 16.10 or even a 17.04 beta, just to see if they have the same problem
[23:29] <Salo187> ok will try
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> A quick Google search brings up a few pages about using the nomodeset kernel option
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132


[17:31] <i915> is there away in ubuntu to enable kernel debugging kdb ? If so how do you run it
[17:32] <i915> I just am curious if ubuntu's kernel enables this feature or does it take a recompiling to uses on ubuntu
[17:34] <apw> i915, yes we have kgdb enabled in the kernle
[17:34] <i915> how does one execute this
[17:35] <i915> or get the kernel debugger to run on apt-get i have downloaded before the kgdb package but it was just a front end gui like DDD for gdb. Couldn't get it to run or do anything with the kernel like set breakpoints ,..etc
[17:37] <apw> normally you need to talk to the kernel like over a serial console
[17:37] <apw> or a network console, so you are talking to it from "outside"
[17:37] <apw> to debug from inside you usually use ftrace and family
[17:37] <i915> What i want to do is step thru the kernel code first locally thru the asm . I know if i want to debug kernel with c language code showing i will need to recompile the DWARF in but thats for later trying now just to focus on setting up kgb to attach to the kernel and set a break point to step thru the asm code
[17:38] <apw> right so you need to do that from outside
[17:39] <i915> i cann't run a debugger on the same computer and attach to the kernel vmlinuz directly or set a break point in memory at  01000000-01660531 : Kernel code
[17:39] <i915>   01660532-019b3e7f : Kernel data
[17:39] <i915>   01a96000-01b7cfff : Kernel bss
[17:39] <i915>
[17:40] <apw> what would it run "on" if the kernel is stopped waiting for you
[17:40] <i915> from user mode gdb allows me to attach to any ps -A process pretty much so i was assuming you could just find the  function in kallsyms and attach from there
[17:41] <apw> i915, but a userspace process has somewhere to run separatly from your gdb
[17:41] <apw> you are asking to stop the entire kernel, to do that you need to do it from somewhere that isn't under the control of the kernel
[17:41] <apw> which is why mostly we debug using ftrace as you can do that from inside
[17:42] <i915> O will its not built in to the kernel that the debug registers would have a seperate kernel debugger program that ran with the kernel... now i am confused about how remotely debugging would work the kernel would still break so there has to be an external kernel program to send it remotely and step thru the kernel itself
[17:43] <apw> there is a shim in the tty code which is very very thin which can control the kernel
[17:44] <apw> i think you need to go read some background on how this stuff works, there must be google resources on this
[17:44] <i915> like a gdbserver program equivalent running at kernel level ... and if that was the case why couldn't it just print to the local monitor instead
[17:45] <apw> that isn't really how things work, it is not impossible it could, but i don't beleive it does
[17:45] <apw> it isn't something people actually do very often
[17:45] <apw> so you'd not want to dedicate space for such a thing
[17:46] <i915> Also i have seen it done where somebody presses a special sysrq key in there terminal and it goes to a blue screen kdb debugger how is that working or setup because it looks like it debugs the kernel on userland?
[17:47] <i915> Ok if i do it remotely where do you configure the remote settings to add a remote <IP_ADDRESS>:7893 so that i can have my remote machine talk to this debugging network service
[17:47] <i915> I would imagine in grub
[17:48] <apw> i915, i would imagine on the kenrel command line indeed
[17:48] <i915> because its got to run as soon as the kernel is booting from grub
[17:48] <apw> not something i have done in a very long time
[18:00] <i915> ok i am just going to stick with virtual machine kernel debugging until i can figure out how to get it on the bare hardware to run remote kernel debugging. My problem is now getting grub to boot the kernel into a workable os... i always get kernel opps for initrd or init process issues or the extra stuff the kernel needs to boot workable... but i have everything where it should be so confused still working thru that issue.. onc
[18:00] <i915> e i get that issue taken care of i think i will beable to set up kernel debugging thru serial or network tcp/ip just thru settings in grub or the bootloader
[20:57] <cyphermox> I'm trying to run an install from a yakkety server daily iso; modprobe -v usb-modeswitch complains that the key is not available -- did we somehow break loading all modules, fail to sign stuff for the udebs, and is that a known issue?
[22:07] <apw> udebs may well not be signed ...
[22:08] <apw> that sounds like a problem
[22:08] <apw> will think about that tommorrow
[23:37] <i915> i915 is the kernel driver for the graphics card but now it is also the driver that the /dev/fb0 uses i can uses fbset to set the mode and configuration for /dev/fb0 ...so kind of wondering if this settings going to affect my X11 env or other graphical env i thought /believe /dev/fb0 is used by X11 as well
[23:53] <mjg59> i915: No, X doesn't use the framebuffer interface (unless you're using the fbdev driver)
[23:53] <mjg59> i915: the drm layer exposes its own modesetting interface that X uses