[04:41] <EyebeKlap> Hello everyone! I have recently installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop on my computer and have been experimenting with it and windows...           Is it possible to run Ubuntu 8.04 as a Terminal Server without installing the server addition or losing the GUI and desktop functionality? (this is so I can log onto my ubuntu computer using windows XP Remote Desktop)
[14:13]  * Hobbsee wonders why 'compiz' has a menu option.
[14:14]  * crevette too
[14:14] <crevette> I've just seen that


[01:33] <blahdeblah> Hi folks, just to let you know, there will be a few service restarts for CVE-2015-7547 mitigation over the next few days.  If there's a lot of chatter on the channels about it, please let them know to try again in a few minutes.
[01:34] <wxl> blahdeblah: on all services, i imagine?
[01:34] <blahdeblah> We'll restart everything affected, but some services won't be affected because they're HA.
[01:35] <wxl> okie dokie. thanks for the heads up!
[01:35] <blahdeblah> Probably good to remind everyone to patch & reboot as well. ;-)
[09:00] <k1l> i suspect some debian oldstable or such
 ubuntu is it hacker proof
[17:48] <bazhang> it has emacs, so yes
[17:49] <genii> heh
[22:56] <dax> !no > aeonchild
[22:57] <genii> Heh
[22:57] <Unit193> And, for those that don't know:
[22:57] <Unit193> !no
[23:02] <dax> that's norwiegen for "go away we don't like you"
[23:02] <dax> TAKK


[10:28] <nikolam> Is there some recommended window manager replacement, that can support 'focus stealing' prevention for windows...
[10:53] <brainwash> nikolam: but Xfce (xfwm4) can do that
[10:55] <brainwash> nikolam: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/wmtweaks#focus
[10:56] <nikolam> brainwash, yes, I enabled activate focus stealing pervention ;) thanks
[11:46] <xu-help96w> Salve, io ho problema con tasti luminosità schermo. Ho un Chromebook acer c720
[11:46] <xu-help96w> i have a problem with screen brightness keys. I have a Chromebook
[14:08] <abckb__> I am using Xubuntu 20.04 on a Acer Swift 3. I would like to update to 20.10. Is is possible? Any official guide?
[14:09] <abckb__> (I want to test Bluetooth mic. Because in 20.04 A2DP sink works, but mic does not)
[14:15] <brainwash> abckb__: it would be smart to test with the 20.10 live session first then
[19:40] <xu-help15w> Hi, I've been using xubuntu for a few months now and love it!! One problem, it constantly crashes. The  icons disappear then the whole system loses functionality then i have to reboot
[19:41] <xu-help15w> I've used the disk utility to check the SSD i'm using and it says it's fine
[19:41] <xu-help15w> errorfree.
[19:41] <xu-help15w> The motherboard is brand new
[19:41] <xu-help15w> I dk what's wrong
[19:42] <xu-help15w> I haven't checked the processor yet
[19:42] <xu-help15w> I am looking for suggestions from any system techs
[19:44] <gnrp> xu-help15w: Does magic sysrq work?
[19:44] <xu-help15w> sysrq?' i've never heard of it
[19:44] <xu-help15w> how do i check it?
[19:45] <gnrp> Alt+SysRQ+s should sync the hard drives, and alt+sysrq+n should reboot
[19:45] <gnrp> that's ohw you can check if your kernel still does something
[19:47] <gnrp> you can also check the logs in /var/log/syslog, if at the time of the freeze anything was still going on
[19:47] <xu-help15w> i see. thank you. how would i do a Sysrq?
[19:51] <xu-help15w> oh i've found it..it's the key for print screen
[19:53] <yaya> i just did the alt sysrq and s and the machine shut down
[19:54] <yaya> i was having problems with the system shutting down
[19:54] <yaya> im now using this username
[19:55] <yaya> but i posted under a different username a few minutes aago
[19:55] <yaya> ago
[19:56] <yaya> my problem is ubuntu crashing every so often...i would lose all the icons then nothing would work and i would have to reboot
[19:59] <yaya> i'm back again.     i just did an ALT N SYSRQ and it immediately shutdown the system
[20:00] <yaya> well that part is working.  my original question was: xubuntu was crashing a lot, i'd lose the icons then i'd have to do a reboot
[20:00] <yaya> If there are any techs around to help it would be much appreciated
[20:01] <yaya> so far: i've used the disk utility and checked the SSD and no errors
[20:01] <yaya> the motherboard is new
[20:01] <yaya> i haven't  checked the processor
[20:06] <gnrp> yaya: Yeah, hat's what it is supposed to do
[20:07] <gnrp> I wanted to know whether this still works when your computer freezes
[20:07] <gnrp> can you check /var/log/syslog if somehting happens during a freeze sitll?
[20:11] <yaya> yes ive gone to var/log/syslog but i cant read it
[20:13] <yaya> oh, i was clicking on the wrong one with encoding
[20:13] <yaya> i can see it
[20:13] <yaya> what am i checking for?'??
[20:54] <gnrp> check for the date of the last crash#
[20:57] <yaya> Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1' requested by ':1.28' (uid=1000 pid=1450 comm="xfdesktop " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1[1543]: Registered thumbnailer /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer -s %s %u
[20:57] <yaya> %oOct 31 13:57:57 computer org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1[1543]: Registered thumbnailer gnome-thumbnail-font --size %s %u %oOct 31 13:57:57 computer org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1[1543]: Registered thumbnailer atril-thumbnailer -s %s %u %oOct 31 13:57:57 computer org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1[1543]: Registered
[20:57] <yaya> thumbnailer /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer -s %s %u %oOct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[541]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.ColorManager' unit='colord.service' requested by ':1.55' (uid=1000 pid=1549 comm="xiccd " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1]: Starting Manage, Install and Generate Color
[20:57] <yaya> Profiles...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[541]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.ColorManager'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1]: Started Manage, Install and Generate Color Profiles.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service
[20:57] <yaya> name='org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.service' requested by ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=1543 comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - disk device monitor...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session
[20:57] <yaya> uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Started Virtual filesystem service - disk device monitor.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.GoaVolumeMonitor'
[20:57] <yaya> unit='gvfs-goa-volume-monitor.service' requested by ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=1543 comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - GNOME Online Accounts monitor...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully
[20:57] <yaya> activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.GoaVolumeMonitor'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Started Virtual filesystem service - GNOME Online Accounts monitor.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-afc-volume-monitor.service' requested by
[20:57] <yaya> ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=1543 comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - Apple File Conduit monitor...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor'Oct 31
[20:57] <yaya> 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Started Virtual filesystem service - Apple File Conduit monitor.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor.service' requested by ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=1543
[20:57] <yaya> comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - Media Transfer Protocol monitor...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer
[20:57] <yaya> systemd[1110]: Started Virtual filesystem service - Media Transfer Protocol monitor.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor.service' requested by ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=1543
[20:57] <yaya> comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - digital camera monitor...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer
[20:57] <yaya> systemd[1110]: Started Virtual filesystem service - digital camera monitor.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Metadata'
[20:57] <yaya> unit='gvfs-metadata.service' requested by ':1.28' (uid=1000 pid=1450 comm="xfdesktop " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:57 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Virtual filesystem metadata service...Oct 31 13:57:57 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Metadata'Oct 31 13:57:57 computer
[20:57] <yaya> systemd[1110]: Started Virtual filesystem metadata service.Oct 31 13:57:57 computer NetworkManager[545]: <info>  [1604174277.9546] agent-manager: agent[eea75fc789ae8449,:1.63/org.freedesktop.nm-applet/1000]: agent registeredOct 31 13:57:58 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez.obex'
[20:57] <yaya> unit='dbus-org.bluez.obex.service' requested by ':1.52' (uid=1000 pid=1576 comm="/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-applet " label="unconfined")Oct 31 13:57:58 computer systemd[1110]: Starting Bluetooth OBEX service...Oct 31 13:57:58 computer obexd[1759]: OBEX daemon 5.53Oct 31 13:57:58 computer dbus-daemon[1153]: [session uid=1000 pid=1153]
[20:57] <yaya> Successfully activated service 'org.bluez.obex'Oct 31 13:57:58 computer systemd[1110]: Started Bluetooth OBEX service.Oct 31 13:58:00 computer systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service: Succeeded.Oct 31 13:58:01 computer whoopsie-upload-all[912]: Collecting info for /var/crash/_usr_bin_xfce4-power-manager.1000.crash...Oct 31 13:58:01 computer
[20:57] <Maik> yaya never do that again
[20:57] <Maik> !paste
[20:59] <yaya> could be the problem here:  [13:58:01] Uploading /var/crash/_usr_bin_xfce4-power-manager.1000.crash.
[20:59] <Maik> yaya: understood the previous message?
[21:00] <yaya> yes to post using the url
[21:00] <Maik> thanks
[21:02] <Maik> by using paste.ubuntu.com you prevent the channel from being flooded. On other channels you get kicked or even banned for a short time. Just so you know. :)
[21:03] <yaya> i think it could be a problem witth the power manager. why? because sometimes weird things  happen. example; the screen times out after a minute or two when im watching a video
[21:04] <yaya> maik; im here for tech support and to report problems  with XUBUNTU not for politics
[21:06] <yaya> let me know if i'm in the wronng place and i wont waste another second here
[21:06] <yaya> i want to communicate with developers of XUBUT}
[21:07] <yaya> XUBUNTU noone else
[21:17] <xu-irc9w> Hi Team,
[21:18] <xu-irc9w> My external speakers audio is not coming


[11:25] <psycho13> ikonia: i can ping it
[11:25] <Dacvak> ikonia: Alright, whatever.. I guess I'll keep trying different things.
[11:25] <Dacvak> I'll be back when it doesn't work >_<
[11:26] <hmpmstrH> idefixx, sorry i forgot to tell you, its laptop >> desktop
[11:26] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, Are you just trying to get NTFS read / write ?
[11:26] <ikonia> psycho13: you can ping the destination - not the individual hops
[11:26] <SpeakerMania> yes, I want to access my windows drive.
[11:26] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | SpeakerMania A much easier way to do it
[11:26] <ubotu> SpeakerMania A much easier way to do it: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:26] <SpeakerMania> ok, I added the line
[11:26] <ikonia> digip1mp: your really going to struggle to get that working
[11:26] <ikonia> digip1mp: why do you have ssl installed in /usr/local/ssl ?
[11:26] <psycho13> ikonia: ok, what confuses me is that windows can connect via vpn, ubuntu can connect to OTHER vpn-servers but not to this specific one
[11:26] <Pirate_Hunter> jeff2 for some reason it seems to ahve picked it up from synaptic and yet not from terminal but it didnt connect to archive etc which is weird but ive got it now
[11:26] <adriano284> hi all
[11:27] <SpeakerMania> How do I highlight the names in red?
[11:27] <ikonia> psycho13: I can't answer that
[11:27] <idefixx> hmpmstrH: and the ftp connection works like it should? if so just copy the torrents + data and start your linux torrent on a differnt port.. check the files (rehash) and close the win torrent.
[11:27] <jeff2> Pirate_Hunter, glad it worked out
[11:27] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: now, try to use sudo mount -a, and it should work...once we get the drive mounted, then you could try ntfs-3g for writing
[11:27] <ikonia> digip1mp: actually - can you show me the output form uname -a please
[11:27] <ikonia> digip1mp: just had a thought on this
[11:27] <SpeakerMania> it says it doesn't exist
[11:27] <Pirate_Hunter> jeff2: thanx for the help but my next question is how do I use network manager to connect to my work place
[11:27] <psycho13> ikonia: ok... thank you for your help anyway... any suggestions what i could try or where i could find help?
[11:27] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: the drive or the mount point?
[11:27] <ikonia> psycho13: no idea
[11:28] <SpeakerMania> the mouint point
[11:28] <Jordan_U> carlosqueso, ntfs-config automatically configures your fstab and allows you to turn rw on and off, it's much easier
[11:28] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: then just type sudo mkdir /media/disk
[11:28] <shaya> anyone using latex in gutsy?
[11:28] <ikonia> shaya: gusty is in #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <Vlet> I just got 7.04 installed on a laptop with a 1280x800 resolution; my xorg.conf only has that option, yet X starts up in 1024x768, and the 'screen resolution' applet has only 1024 as an option... why?
[11:28] <ikonia> digip1mp: are you there ?
[11:28] <carlosqueso> Jordan_U: yeah, but his isn't recognizing it as an ntfs drive at all
[11:28] <SpeakerMania> got it
[11:28] <Jordan_U> Vlet, What kind of GFX card do you have?
[11:28] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: you can see it?
[11:28] <TheCougar> just installed ubuntu and it says 'failed to start the X server' 'likely that it is not setup correctly'
[11:28] <psycho13> ikonia: oh no :-/ last reason to abandon windows can't be vanished ;-) well, thanks anyway... good night
[11:28] <SpeakerMania> now do sudo mount -a?
[11:29] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: yup
[11:29] <SpeakerMania> okay done
[11:29] <TheCougar> where am i going from here?:)
[11:29] <danielillo83> hola
[11:29] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: is it working?
[11:29] <Jordan_U> carlosqueso, That is normal
[11:29] <fivetwentysix> Is there any texas hold em calculators for linux/ubuntu?
[11:29] <test> I have a question about awk, how would you sort a list? I have a csv which I can read with awk -F ,  then all the values are hashed now I want to sort them on collumn 1 and then on collumn2 then collumn3
[11:29] <danielillo83> sobres locote
[11:29] <test> anybody have a good approche?
[11:29] <SpeakerMania> YES!!!
[11:29] <Pirate_Hunter> so how can I create a simple vpn connection with network manager?
[11:29] <danielillo83> sobres locote
[11:30] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: w00t, sometimes windows drives can be a pain....
[11:30] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: your not getting this - you may want to consider using windows for your work uses
[11:30] <SpeakerMania> thanks ALOT!
[11:30] <SpeakerMania> Now for the hard part
[11:30] <SpeakerMania> ...
[11:30] <SpeakerMania> Can I scan it for viruses?
[11:30] <Vlet> Jordan_U: Intel (of some sort - looking it up...)
[11:30] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: the hard part?
[11:30] <SpeakerMania> From ubuntu?
[11:30] <SpeakerMania> scan it
[11:30] <fivetwentysix> Is there any texas hold em calculators for linux/ubuntu?
[11:30] <Jordan_U> Vlet, install 915resolution, then restart X
 is it goign to be really that bad using ubuntu for my work especially if im going to be sending data into the server
[11:31] <carlosqueso> !info clamav | SpeakerMania, this could be what you're looking for
[11:31] <ubotu> speakermania, this could be what you're looking for: clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90.2-0ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 849 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[11:31] <SpeakerMania> windows doesn't boot and I think their is a virus in the boot files
[11:31] <Vlet> Jordan_U: Cool - running updates now, then I'll give that a shot
[11:31] <the_hammer> im thinking about going back to windows i didnt pay $75 for a stupid card to just sit in my machine and collect dust
[11:31] <SpeakerMania> thanks i'll try it
[11:31] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: can you PLEASE stop using <ikonia> to reponse to me - just say my name
[11:31] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: of course, you'll have to install ntfs-3g like Jordan_U said to be able to do anything about the viruses
[11:31] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: it's not tat hard, but you don't seem to be able to grap it, so you may want to just use windows for your business as to not cause issues with your work
[11:32] <SpeakerMania> !ntfs-3g
[11:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:32] <Dacvak> ikonia: It didn't work, but I figured something out...
[11:32] <ikonia> Dacvak: no luck ?
[11:32] <Dacvak> ikonia: The hard drive with Windows on it IS hd1
[11:32] <test> I have a question about awk, how would you sort a list? I have a csv which I can read with awk -F ,  then all the values are hashed now I want to sort them on collumn 1 and then on collumn2 then collumn3
[11:32] <test> anybody have a good approche?
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: ok than will do so and yeah will just use your name from now on
[11:32] <ikonia> Dacvak: yeah, that bit I'm reasonably confident about looking at your file and wha tyou've aid to me
[11:33] <Dacvak> ikonia: Still, I can't figure out why it just won't let me boot. When I searched for ntldr on the drive, I did find it.
[11:33] <SpeakerMania> how do i Enable the universe repository?
[11:33] <ikonia> Dacvak: what did you change your menu.lst to /
[11:33] <ikonia> ?
[11:33] <Dacvak> ikonia: Nothing has reallly changed on my Windows drive.
[11:33] <Jordan_U> !universe | SpeakerMania
[11:33] <ubotu> SpeakerMania: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:33] <Dacvak> ikonia: let me pastebin it right now
[11:33] <kelvin> yoyoyoyoy...was up..was up everybody.....
[11:34] <ikonia> Dacvak: try chaging root back to (hd0,0) then leaving map as (hd0) (hd1) +(hd1) (hd0)
[11:34] <cd-4> ollas<z<<z<
[11:34] <Dacvak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25322/
[11:34] <kelvin> !windows
[11:34] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:34] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, System -> Administration -> Software Sources ( check the box next to community maintained software )
[11:35] <kelvin> !ubuntu
[11:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <ikonia> Dacvak: try changing just the root option back to (hd0,0)
[11:35] <Hirvinen> !equivalents
[11:35] <ikonia> !botabuse | kelvin
[11:35] <Dacvak> ikonia: Should I comment the maps out?
[11:35] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:35] <ubotu> kelvin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:35] <ikonia> Dacvak: no
[11:35] <matason> I want to read/write files to an external usb hdd from Ubuntu and Windows XP, how should I go about preparing the disk? I.e. Format it under Ubuntu as vfat?
[11:35] <swobot> salut qqun peut me dire quelle permission je dois mettre a mon home?
[11:35] <the_hammer> no one in this room has a tv anywhere plus card?
[11:35] <idefixx> ikonia: once vista is installed the vista bootsector, loader and mbr are not removed when u uninstall vista... im not sure but that might be connected to Dacvaks problem thats why i wanted him to fix his bootsect with the windows cd.
[11:35] <SpeakerMania> it is
[11:35] <NigelS> matason: nope, apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:35] <Stormx2> matason: You can write to NTFS fine under ubuntu.
[11:35] <NigelS> matason: then you can write to NTFS
[11:36] <matason> Ah thanks :)
[11:36] <ikonia> idefixx: seems reasonable - yeah, he'll need the bootsec.bak file for grub to pickup and boot into ntldr
[11:36] <Dacvak> alright.. brb.
[11:36] <kelvin> ikonia....juz trying to search something..not an abuse...no worries!!!
[11:36] <Jordan_U> matason, *install ntfs-config which will automatically configure ntfs-3g
[11:36] <matason> Cheers
[11:36] <SpeakerMania> can i get it via command line and install it via command line? (or terminal i guess)
[11:36] <idefixx> ikonia: even thou i dont really understand where the 'ntldr..' message comes from in that case - but i'll just blame that on ms crap :)
[11:36] <Jordan_U> matason, Winsows can also read write ext3 though
[11:36] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: universe?
[11:37] <SpeakerMania> no, ntfs-3g or whatever
[11:37] <ikonia> idefixx: your comment makes good sense actually - it sort of makes sense
[11:37] <ikonia> idefixx: I think I see why he's having the problem
[11:37] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: yup...sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g I believe
[11:37] <kelvin> any one know how to configure bluetooth dial up networking in feisty?
[11:37] <SpeakerMania> thanks
[11:37] <matason> Jordan_U: Oh really?
[11:37] <electrolinux> swobot: demande plutt sur #ubuntu-fr ;-)
[11:37] <Jordan_U> matason, Yes, I forget the name of the driver though
[11:38] <Dacvak> ikonia: No luck
[11:38] <Vlet> Jordan_U: Thanks, 915 worked great :)
[11:38] <matason> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll check google
[11:38] <Dacvak> ikonia: Brb, though...
[11:38] <ikonia> Dacvak: idefixx raised a valid point which I'm not sure how to explain to you
[11:38] <EMiiiH> hello
[11:38] <ikonia> Dacvak: I think I see why your having the problem
[11:39] <EMiiiH> speaking espaol???
[11:39] <kelvin> bluetooth dial up anyone one? help?
[11:39] <carlosqueso> !es | EMiiiH
[11:39] <ubotu> EMiiiH: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:39] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i uninstall privoxy manually?
[11:39] <frojnd> does anyone here know for any 3d browsers, like konqueror is browser, I just need to browse 3d ...
[11:39] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: how did you install it
[11:39] <safwan> I have a problem. I am using monodevelop to develop windows dotnet. when I build the solution the development tool 'monodevelop' gives me a file with .exe extension however, I can't open this kind of files on linux. do you know a way of opening windows executable files in linux. Do I have to install something 'codec' first if so do you know how and where to get the codec . I tried to install windows codec using Auatomatix
[11:39] <safwan>  but it always gives me an error.
[11:39] <ikonia> frojnd: browse 3d ?
[11:39] <carlosqueso> !wine | safwan
[11:39] <ubotu> safwan: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:39] <Jordan_U> Pirate_Hunter, sudo apt-get remove privoxy  ?
[11:40] <EMiiiH> olah carlosqueso
[11:40] <frojnd> ikonia: yes... so u can see your folders in somekind of 3d envirenment
[11:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U will try that
[11:40] <ikonia> frojnd: I have no idea what your on about - you want a 3d desktop not a browser. that sort of thing doesn't really exist at the moment or is in early stages
[11:41] <safwan> carlosqueso , thanks for the tip
[11:41] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso I need help it says manually run dpkg config so i did. i need to be a power user but my account is root
[11:41] <SpeakerMania> what is wrong?\
[11:41] <carlosqueso> safwan: don't know that it'll work, but it's worth a try
[11:41] <kelvin> any expert on bluetooth here????
[11:41] <kelvin> zzzzzzzzzz
[11:41] <frojnd> ikonia: ofccourse it is..
[11:41] <EMiiiH> carlosqueso ola
[11:41] <frojnd> just can't remember nae,
[11:41] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: what are you trying to do at this point?
[11:41] <frojnd> name?
[11:41] <ikonia> frojnd: can you give me an example
[11:41] <Pirate_Hunter> Jordan_U tanx that did the trick
[11:42] <ikonia> frojnd: do you mean beryl or compiz ?
[11:42] <TheVault> I was wondering. At the top left(mine desktop is default right now, nothing edited) it shows the ubuntu icon, I was wondering if I can change that to the apple logo. I have the image, but I don't know how to change it
[11:42] <wepeel> ok, not strictly ubuntu, but here goes...anyone here use amarok as an interface for the sony ericsson w300i phone? What commends do I need to set this up?
[11:42] <carlosqueso> EMiiiH: no hablo mucho espanol, queires #ubuntu-es
[11:42] <safwan> carlosqueso it is really nice of you. I appreciate your help
[11:42] <ikonia> wepeel: if its not ubuntu - its not for this channel
[11:42] <carlosqueso> np
[11:42] <frojnd> ikonia: NO :) not beryl or compiz
[11:43] <SpeakerMania> i did sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g. it then says I need to run dpkg --configure -a so i did. It says I need to be a power user but my account is in the root category.
[11:43] <frojnd> ikonia: I am telling u for real 3d if u wanna to fly and choose which folder would u like to look at :)
[11:43] <EMiiiH> carlosqueso ok how are you??
[11:43] <wepeel> ikonia: well, it's peripherally ubuntu. I'm running ubuntu and I need to figure out the pre connect command for a usb device
[11:43] <ikonia> frojnd: you don't mean looking glass do you ?
[11:43] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: you need sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:43] <nickrud> TheVault, you change the distributor-logo.png for the theme you're using, and provide several sizes:   locate distributor-logo.png    will give you the locations and sizes
[11:43] <frojnd> ikonia: no
[11:43] <carlosqueso> EMiiiH: good, what can we help you with
[11:43] <adriano284> good nigh
[11:43] <SpeakerMania> my bad. :)
[11:43] <TheVault> nickrud: Whats that located under? The filesystem?
[11:44] <kelvin> !*****kelvin looking for networking experts
[11:44] <babadie> Good afternoon.
[11:44] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: if you're coming from another linux...sudo takes some getting used to (and then if you go to another, su takes even more)
[11:44] <babadie> Looking for someone who can help with a dlink wireless card and ubuntu.
[11:44] <Dacvak> ikonia: what's the reason I'm having the problem?
[11:44] <jhanha> llo
[11:45] <carlosqueso> babadie: what card, and what's the problem?
[11:45] <jhanha> hello speaking me???
[11:45] <btaylor> sudo doesn't take much getting used to compared to su... just sudo -i and you're done
[11:45] <nickrud> TheVault, locate is a command that reads a database of your files, and it's rebuilt daily. Those files will mostly be under /usr/share/icons
[11:45] <jhanha> hola
[11:45] <carlosqueso> btaylor: yeah, but you have to remember to type it ;)
[11:45] <babadie> I got everything installed but the wireless connection is not listed in the network window.
[11:45] <Dacvak> ikonia: hold that thought, brb
[11:45] <idefixx> !es | jhanha
[11:45] <carlosqueso> babadie: what make of card
[11:45] <btaylor> carlosqueso: true ;)
[11:45] <TheVault> nickrud: Thanks, I will try it out. Do I have to rename the apple logo the same name?
[11:45] <ubotu> jhanha: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:45] <mint> hello
[11:45] <babadie> dlink g-510
[11:46] <EMiiiH> hello jordan how are you???
[11:46] <kailden> is there a program/script/preference under linux to tell it only to charge my laptop battery to 40% (unless I change the setting?)
[11:46] <mint> how can i mount an ext3 drive with read & writ privilegies?
[11:46] <EMiiiH> ola jhanah
[11:46] <carlosqueso> babadie: and does it show up in iwconfig?
[11:46] <nickrud> TheVault, yeah, it's looking for a file named distributor-logo.png for the panel.
[11:46] <jhanha> speak spanish
[11:46] <mint> i'm on ubuntu live cd...
[11:47] <idefixx> mint: they usually are mounted rw.. its probably just the permissions you're having problems with.
[11:47] <jhanha> olas
[11:47] <babadie> No...only a phone modem and an ethernet connection.
[11:47] <kelvin> how to make windows xp list first on grub???
[11:47] <TheVault> nickrud: Thanks, I'll try that now
[11:47] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: Ok it is instaled now what?
[11:47] <jhanha> algen aula espaol??
[11:47] <EMiiiH> ola peuk jhanah
[11:47] <mint> no they're not...
[11:47] <betho> hello
[11:47] <ohpcspec> hi, does anybody know anything about ubunto on a 945chipset motherboard, with a celeron processor and an ati x700 video card?
[11:47] <idefixx> !es | jhanha
[11:47] <ubotu> jhanha: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:47] <betho> hello
[11:47] <betho> anyone
[11:48] <pagesailor> is there a way to run everything in superuser mode in gnome (I know it's risky and everything, just need to know) ?
[11:48] <betho> can you help me ?
[11:48] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: now you SHOULD be able to change the ntfs is your fstab (the same way we edited it last time) to ntfs-3g, use mount -a, and be able to write
[11:48] <carlosqueso> !ask | betho
[11:48] <ubotu> betho: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:48] <kailden> if not, is there something in proc I can manipulate to write my own?
[11:48] <betho> carlos
[11:48] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: no, I need to scan for viruses
[11:49] <betho> kero entrar no ubuntu-br
[11:49] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, Go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS config
[11:49] <jrib> betho: /join #ubuntu-br
[11:49] <wepeel> ok, I plug my phone into a usb port and two icons pop up on the desktop: one for the phone and one for the card. how can I tell which /dev file is the card?
[11:49] <emgstn> I killed x-window, and now ubuntu loads directly to console and when I startx, it goes straight to gnome, skipping the session manager.  I want to be able to choose my desktop environment again; how do I get the session manager to load on start up again. :(  Forgive my noobness. hehe..
[11:49] <ohpcspec> i'm having some installation problems with ubuntu 7.04 on a system with an intel 945 chipset, sata drive, and an ati x700 video card. please /msg me if you know if there is a known issue?
[11:49] <SpeakerMania> Jordan_U: there is no System Tools
[11:49] <idefixx> pagesailor: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf 'AllowRoot=true'
[11:49] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: but you need the drive mounted read-write first
[11:49] <idefixx> pagesailor: i really wouldnt do that ^^
[11:49] <nickrud> kelvin, rearrange the order of the stanzas in /boot/grub/menu.lst ; be warned that you might not get your boot list rebuilt automatically when you upgrade your kernels if you edit the file by hand
[11:49] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, Have you installed ntfs-config?
[11:50] <TheVault> nickrud: Oh ok, about what you ment. I found the names of the themes thats installed on Ubuntu, now I just go in and found it. Thanks for the help :D
[11:50] <nickrud> TheVault, yw
[11:50] <SpeakerMania> Jordan_U: I just did sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:50] <Poromenos1> i accidentally removed the last sudoer from that group, what do i do now?
[11:50] <bastid_raZor> run~!
[11:50] <jrib> Poromenos1: what group?>
[11:50] <Poromenos1> sudoers
[11:51] <kelvin> ****tired
[11:51] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: how do i do that?
[11:51] <theo__> I've got an ssh -X session going with a remote server.  I started the gnome-session and its really slow.  Anybody have a tip on speeding up the gnome-sessions connection to the X server?
[11:51] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config for the GUI, or just edit your fstab manually like carlosqueso said
[11:51] <jrib> Poromenos1: you mean "admin"?
[11:51] <carlosqueso> babadie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1582134
[11:51] <Poromenos1> jrib: erm, perhaps? :P i just know sudo tells me i'm not in the sudoers group
[11:51] <babadie> I have a dlink g510 wireless adapter installed on my system running ubuntu 6.06.  The wireless adapter is not listed in the networking window.  Anyone?
[11:51] <Poromenos1> sudoers file
[11:51] <kelvin> !kelvin need help in bluetooth and grub
[11:51] <jrib> Poromenos1: reboot in recovery mode and add your user to the "admin" group with this command:  adduser YOUR_USERNAME admin
[11:52] <Jordan_U> babadie, Do you know what chipset it is?
[11:52] <^rike^> How can i stop update manager from updating a particular package?
[11:52] <Poromenos1> oh, recovery mode :/ can't i do anything through ssh?
[11:52] <SpeakerMania> Jordan_U: just installed i am looking at applications >> System Tools >> ntfs Config tool
[11:52] <jrib> Poromenos1: not unless you have another use with sudo access or can login as root
[11:52] <SpeakerMania> Jordan_U: check both?
[11:52] <jrib> Poromenos1: s/use/user
[11:52] <Poromenos1> jrib: no :( okay, i'll try recovery, does that require the cd?
[11:52] <jrib> Poromenos1: nope, should be an option at the grub menu
[11:52] <pagesailor> idefixx thnx
[11:53] <Poromenos1> aha great, okay, thank you very much :)
[11:53] <jrib> !pinning > ^rike^ (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:53] <reya276> quick question how can I watch quicktime movies on Ubuntu, I installed the gstreamer plugin but it does not show
[11:53] <Poromenos1> reya276: VLC?
[11:53] <jrib> ^rike^: I think update manager respects those settings...
[11:53] <nickrud> ^rike^, in synaptic you can choose lock version under the package menu item
[11:53] <jrib> !quicktime > reya276 (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:53] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, Yes, if you want to be able to use internal and removable NTFS drives
[11:53] <carlosqueso> Sorry Speakermania, I'm from back before they had all of those nice graphical configu utilities
[11:53] <reya276> now I'm downloading the quicktime.dmg file but I don't think I can install this
[11:53] <SpeakerMania> lol
[11:54] <emgstn> I killed x-window, and now ubuntu loads directly to console and when I startx, it goes straight to gnome, skipping the session manager.  I want to be able to choose my desktop environment again; how do I get the session manager to load on start up again. :(  Forgive my noobness. hehe..
[11:54] <Poromenos1> quit
[11:54] <Poromenos1> err
[11:54] <^rike^> jrib: i already tried the lock option and the packages appear pinned
[11:54] <carlosqueso> emgstn: well...to get the login, use sudo gdm
[11:54] <Dacvak> ikonia: Nothing is working...
[11:54] <carlosqueso> emgstn: but I'm not sure how to always get that
[11:54] <Jordan_U> emgstn, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:54] <Dacvak> ikonia: You said you might know why it's not working?
[11:54] <wepeel> argh, what replaces a 'spce' in the terminal?
[11:54] <wepeel> sorry, a 'space'
[11:54] <^rike^> jrib: but update-manager still updates the packages
[11:54] <emgstn> carlosqueso: thanks that'll probably help me a lot :)
[11:55] <Dacvak> Doesn't anyone here know how to fix a MBR??
[11:55] <jrib> ^rike^: what do you mean by "lock option"?
[11:55] <kelvin> !ping
[11:55] <EMiiiH> olah
[11:55] <Dacvak> Ubuntu totally effed up my computer. >_<
[11:55] <Arrick> where does the default LAMP install put the Apache server when it installs in the 7.xx.x version?":
[11:55] <SpeakerMania> HELP!!!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25324/
[11:55] <ubotu> pong
[11:55] <EMiiiH> espaol
[11:55] <jrib> !es | EMiiiH
[11:55] <ubotu> EMiiiH: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:55] <Jordan_U> reya276, Are you in the correct channel? dmg files are for OSx
[11:55] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i find out if moblock is installed on my comp?
[11:55] <jrib> Dacvak: are you keeping ubuntu and want to reinstall grub?
[11:55] <mapez> h5h6h7
[11:55] <Pirate_Hunter> if it is i wish to unninstall it
[11:56] <idefixx> Dacvak: did you do what i told you before.. boot with the windows cd in recovery mode?
[11:56] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: can you boot at all into windows?
[11:56] <SpeakerMania> No.
[11:56] <Dacvak> It doesn't matter if I keep ubuntu...  I just REALLY need to boot into Windows
[11:56] <SpeakerMania> I need to scan it for viruses
[11:56] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: and do you have Vista?
[11:56] <SpeakerMania> No.
[11:56] <SpeakerMania> 2k
[11:56] <Dacvak> idefixx: I don't have my Windows CD... I was going to burn another copy of it, but Ubuntu won't let me install any new programs
[11:56] <SpeakerMania> Windows is crap, i'm full time Linux but I'm fixing it for my mom
[11:56] <EMiiiH> hi jrib how are you??
[11:56] <Jordan_U> SpeakerMania, You need to use the windows install CD ( or BartPE or something ) and chkdisk the drive
[11:57] <idefixx> Dacvak: do you have a floppy drive?
[11:57] <NigelS> Dacvak: what's the actual problem?
[11:57] <SpeakerMania> crap
[11:57] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: hmm....try running ntfsfix
[11:57] <kelvin> ^helo???
[11:57] <Dacvak> I don't have a floppy drive
[11:57] <Pirate_Hunter> !Grub
[11:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:57] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: how?
[11:57] <Jowo> Anyone, can I get a list of running applications (like taskmanager), in gnome I got tasks outside the vivible window.
[11:57] <kailden> is there a program/script/preference under linux to tell it only to charge my laptop battery to 40% (unless I change the setting?)
[11:57] <Jowo> visible even
[11:57] <Dacvak> NigelS: I had XP on one hard drive, and then installed Ubuntu on a different one. now XP won't boot
[11:57] <jrib> EMiiiH: I am ok, but this channel is for ubuntu support.  You can chat about other things in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[11:57] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: well...it's probably been installed with ntfs-3g, so try to type sudo ntfsfix
[11:57] <^rike^> jrib: i oppened synaptic package manager, selected the package and chose the "lock version" option
[11:57] <kelvin> ^need some help on bluetooth^
[11:57] <jrib> Jowo: system -> administration -> system monitor?
[11:58] <jrib> ^rike^: yes, try what I said
[11:58] <idefixx> Dacvak: do you have/can you boot from an usb-stick?
[11:58] <NigelS> Dacvak: which drive is set to be checked first by the BIOS? which drive did the installer write to in terms of the MBR portion? and lastly what happens when you try to boot xp?
[11:58] <Jowo> jrib: thnx
[11:58] <Dacvak> It's driving me crazy... I need Windows for work, and actually I need it right now. (Actually a half hour ago)
[11:58] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: command not found
[11:58] <Dacvak> idefixx: I can boot from CD, if that helps...
[11:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Dacvak: try super grub at http://forjamari.linex.org/projects/supergrub/
[11:58] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: okay, then sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs then sudo ntfsfix
[11:58] <reya276> I already installed the gstreamer plugin, what I'm asking if there is a way to install quick time on Ubuntu
[11:59] <Pirate_Hunter> ok my time to ask a question, I wish to find if moblock is installed on my comp if it is i want to uninstall it
[11:59] <Dacvak> NigelS: I'm not sure about most of that stuff, but when I boot Windows is says "ntldr not found    Press Ctrl Alt Del to reboot"
[11:59] <kelvin> !ops
[11:59] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:59] <reya276> also I can't stream windows media files
[11:59] <PriceChild> kelvin, ?
[11:59] <doctormo> hey all
[11:59] <kelvin> hmn....none of them helps...
[11:59] <jrib> kelvin: what?
[11:59] <PriceChild> kelvin, what's wrong?
[11:59] <Jordan_U> !hi | doctormo
[11:59] <ubotu> doctormo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:59] <doctormo> how can I share files to a Mac OS X machine (and please no Samba)
[11:59] <NigelS> Dacvak: so you get the grub menu and then you choose the XP option and it give you that msg?
[11:59] <Pirate_Hunter> try the link i gave you tis supposed to have an auto grub repair soft which fits on floppy and will help you boot into windows
[11:59] <idefixx> Dacvak: dumb me.. yes that helps google for 'super grub' download and brun the iso. boot from it and use the 'restore bootsector' command in it.
[11:59] <xelnaga666> does anyone know of an ubuntu spin small enough to fit on a 1gb stick? I know the steps to do it already but im basically looking for a distro with 'apt' and gnome based.
[11:59] <Dacvak> NigelS: Yes
[11:59] <kelvin> Pricechild, can u help me in bluetooth networking?
[12:00] <Luci3n> reya276 the easy way is using automatix
[12:00] <mc44> hehe
[12:00] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: I need to specify my windows drive, so it would be hda1?
[12:00] <carlosqueso> !automatix | Luci3n reya276
[12:00] <nickrud> lel
[12:00] <ubotu> Luci3n reya276: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:00] <Dacvak> idefixx: I'd try that, but I don't have any burning software on Ubuntu right now, and the fscking thing won't let me add any new programs
[12:00] <carlosqueso> SpeakerMania: hdb1
[12:00] <SpeakerMania> carlosqueso: thanks
[12:00] <drizztzrevenge> uhm. hi so im a total newb and i did something that sees really dumb and now i cant figure out how to fix it :-/
[12:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Now cna someone help me out please?
[12:00] <jrib> !please > Pirate_Hunter (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:01] <Jordan_U> reya276, Yes, you can install the windows version of quicktime in wine
[12:01] <jrib> drizztzrevenge: tell us what is wrong
[12:01] <doctormo> Pirate_Hunter: didn't even see your question


[05:15] <LPCIBot> Project db-devel build #773: STILL FAILING in 5 hr 47 min: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/773/
[05:41] <nigelb> I finally understand zope better than before.
[05:41] <lifeless> nigelb: have your eyes imploded?
[05:41] <nigelb> lifeless: Not yet. I assume that's the rite of passage.
[05:42] <StevenK> Eyes bleeding tends to do it, too
[05:42] <nigelb> I picked up one of those JS + Python bugs.
[05:42] <nigelb> Fun so far. I had to read the text I hate on how to fix it thrice to find out where to start.
[05:42] <nigelb> *have
[05:43] <lifeless> heh :)
[05:44] <nigelb> Utter respect to people who have to do it everyday.
[05:44] <nigelb> And furthermore for wgrant for figuring out *before* he joined Canonical.
[05:46] <nigelb> btw, there's a short cut to not running make run everytime, what was that again?
[05:50] <lifeless> no idea
[05:50] <lifeless> -> evening stuff. ciao.
[05:50] <nigelb> laters!
[06:43] <wgrant> nigelb: You'll see it run 'bin/run -r librarian -i development' or so.
[06:43] <wgrant> nigelb: That's the magical command.
[06:44] <wgrant> Actually, it runs -r librarian,googletestservice,memcache or so, but you can make it quicker by just doing -r librarian.
[06:44] <wgrant> If you need to change CSS, 'make csscombine' before bin/run. For JS, make jsbuil.
[06:44] <wgrant> +d
[06:45] <nigelb> \o/
[06:45] <nigelb> Thanks!
[06:45] <nigelb> Should save it this time!
[06:46] <wgrant> Indeed.
[06:46] <wgrant> Means you can restart in ~7s rather than 90s.
[06:47] <wgrant> (FWIW, I knew Zope 3 well before LP)
[06:55] <nigelb> wgrant: Ah. No wonder.
[08:37] <lifeless> wgrant: fwiw its 40s for me (make run)
[08:37] <wgrant> Hmm.
[20:35] <nigelb> Is Australia/NZ awake yet?
[20:35] <lifeless> no
[20:35] <lifeless> :P
[20:36] <nigelb> ha
[20:36] <nigelb> I guess I need to wait a bit more for wallyworld to be on IRC.
[20:37] <lifeless> its 0630 for him now I think
[20:37] <nigelb> gah, timezones :|
[22:17] <poolie> can i send https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/dpkg-xz-support-619152/+merge/32868 to ec2 for colin?
[22:18] <poolie> s//is it safe to
[22:55] <lifeless> poolie: I'm not sure; are all the deps available in the relevant production archives etc ?
[23:00] <poolie> it's in lucid-updates as far as i can tell
[23:00] <poolie> lp does get that, doesn't it?
[23:01] <poolie> anyhow it's in ec2 now
[23:34] <wgrant> poolie: Not to land, I hope.
[23:34] <wgrant> poolie: buildbot is not upgraded yet.
[23:34] <wgrant> Oh, different branch.
[23:34] <wgrant> Not sure about that one... maybe.
[23:34] <wgrant> But the apt one is definitely not upgraded everywhere yet.


[21:35] <flaccid> hey guys; just wondering if you could fill me on ubuntu's scaling infrastructure for drupal - what is used atm ?
[22:55] <jpds> flaccid: Apache, Squid proxies I guess.
[23:02] <flaccid> anyway to confirm that? there is just many possible ways to do it basically
[23:13] <jpds> That's the fun of system building. :)
[23:14] <flaccid> not when there is a limited development timeline and budget..
[23:14] <flaccid> :)
[23:16] <jpds> Copying someone else's infrastruture might not be the best way to go about doing it.
[23:16] <jpds> (Different needs, etc).
[23:30] <flaccid> but it also might be the best way. one can evaluate the solution to see if it doesn't fit


[03:25] <MarkB2> Anyone here using an Intel Joule 570x board with Ubuntu?
[03:26] <MarkB2> If so, just one question: after flashing but before installing Ubuntu, are the LEDs at board edge all supposed to light up?
[03:38] <MarkB2> Ah well.  Thought someone might have one.  The things are ..pricy.. but the specs seemed to fit my application.
[20:25] <MarkB2> I've a Joule 570x module on an expansion board and am accumulating the bits and pieces to bring it up.  Directions say to locate a USB A to microB cable (what I think they're calling a serial over USB cable).
[20:27] <MarkB2> That ..definition.. slows me down.  I see an FTDI chip on the board... It looks like all I need is a USB-A to USB-microB cable from the host computer to the Joule.  Is this just a straight USB cable?  Or is another USB-to-Serial adapter needed?
[20:46] <MarkB2> Looks like I've answered my own question: tracing through the expansion board schematic shows that all that's needed is a plain old USB-A to USB-microB cable.  Connector J9 is connected to the USB-side of an FTDI chip.
[20:46] <MarkB2> Happy New Year to all.
[21:36] <JouleUser> I'm trying to install plain Ubuntu onto an Intel Joule but after installation it fails to boot properly.  Is this an OK place to ask for help?


[00:11] <qengho> I'm accustomed to having branches inside a project in bzr, say lp:~team/proj/kode
[00:12] <qengho> Suppose I have a project that has two unrelated git repositories. Can I upload Git branches lp:~team/proj/trunk and lp:~team/proj/proj-dependency ?
[00:13] <qengho> The second is hosted somewhere else altogether, upstream.
[00:13] <qengho> On LP, the second might also be a packaging branch or something.
[00:14] <qengho> Or the build-recipe skeleton.
[00:14] <wgrant> qengho: lp:~OWNER/TARGET/+git/NAME is the full URL to a git repository. Similar to bzr, one can be given an lp:TARGET alias, but there is also the lp:~OWNER/TARGET alias.
[00:15] <wgrant> Since most people only need one repo per project, they can just ignore that the long URLs exist at all.
[00:15] <wgrant> But if you want multiple you can push them to a new full URL by tacking /+git/NAME on the end.
[00:16] <wgrant> (but in git you can also just have multiple branches in the same repo, of course)
[01:38] <qengho> One can't make packaging recipes from git branches, can one?
[01:39] <qengho> I have a remote git branch that I want to automatically package. It has GPG-signed commits so I can't import to bzr branches. I can't seem to recipe-package if it's in git.
[01:39] <qengho> Le sigh.
[01:40] <wgrant> qengho: They're currently in beta.
[01:40] <qengho> Ooo! beta team.
[01:40] <wgrant> If you join the beta team you can use them.
[01:40] <qengho> Done!
[01:40] <wgrant> There are some minor known bugs which I'm rolling out fixes for today, but the basics work fine.
[01:41] <qengho> wgrant: Upi
[01:41] <qengho> wgrant: You're pretty great. I'm glad you're with us.
[01:41] <qengho> Thank you.
[01:41] <wgrant> Let me know if you run into any issues.
[11:17] <bapoumba> ping any Launchpad admin please :)
[11:19] <wgrant> bapoumba: Your account was probably caught in spam crossfire yesterday. #canonical-sysadmin can help you.
[11:19] <bapoumba> OK thanks wgrant :)
[11:19] <bapoumba> I thought so, next time I’ll leave the wiki spam alone ^^
[11:19] <wgrant> It's best not to remove spam yourself.
[11:20] <wgrant> If it sticks around then let someone know, but if our automated scripts detect it after you've been playing with it, they might decide you look like the spammer yourself.
[11:20] <bapoumba> OK I’ll not remove any more, I just do not like people ruin community work ..
[11:20] <wgrant> Yeah, it's not a good situation.
[11:21] <bapoumba> thanks again :)
[14:34] <bookwar> hi, can anyone ban the user and remove the blueprint here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mos/+spec/jhjg ?
[19:16] <tpham3783> on LP git import; is it possible for it to import all branches (from a project on github ie)... then write 3 recipes, one for each branch?
[19:28] <dobey> you can import to different bzr branches
[19:29] <dobey> or wait for git->git imports
[19:29] <dobey> or mirror to git manually
[19:51] <tpham3783> dobey, thank you....i'll just build one branch then..
[20:24] <teward> uhm... so a bit of a huge issue, i'm getting a lot of FTBFS on ppa uploads about ftpmaster.internal not being available
[20:24] <teward> so it's causing a good portion of my PPA uploads jsut now to explode
[20:24] <teward> also a chroot problem
[20:25] <Logan> ^ this, just came here to say it
[20:25] <Logan> seems to be transient
[20:25] <Logan> depends on the buildd, I think
[20:25] <Logan> cjwatson?
[20:31] <teward> it's also hitting quite a lot of my PPA uploads for nginx 1.9.11
[20:31] <teward> so i'll have to rerun the builds that failed
[20:31] <teward> (7 and counting)
[20:31] <dobey> yeah i just had some recipes fail because of it
[20:34] <beuno> teward, Logan, we're rebooting all our services due to the gcc bug announced
[20:35] <beuno> I'm raising this though in case it's not known
[20:35] <beuno> but there will be a bit of instability for a little while
[20:35] <Logan> thanks for the clarification!
[20:41] <teward> beuno: thanks for the clarification.
[21:17] <cjwatson> teward: investigating, I don't think this is pure instability
[21:19] <teward> cjwatson: yeah, it didn't appear to be
[21:19] <teward> cjwatson: thanks
[21:38] <cjwatson> teward: should be fixed now, I'll give back failures
[21:47] <teward> cjwatson: thanks; should I be OK to rerun the failed builds?
[21:47] <cjwatson> teward: I'll do it
[21:48] <teward> thanks
[21:48] <cjwatson> prefer doing this kind of cleanup en masse
[21:48] <teward> indeed :)


[02:59] <locodir-user> Hello
[07:31] <dholbach> good morning
[17:18] <rasha666> hi to all, i am part of aproved LoCo team, but i want to create NGO. I need as NGO to have my own CD-s and.... Is there any way, i dont want to be team as NGO, i want to do presentations as my activities throw NGO
[17:19] <rasha666> ?
[17:23] <czajkowski> You want to be a non profit ?
[17:24] <czajkowski> that's not really how it works.
[17:25] <rasha666> yes, i want to do presentations, and some other activities but in those is presentations like UbuntuHour
[17:25] <czajkowski> yes but you dont need to be an NGO for that
[17:25] <czajkowski> lots of peoople do that within their teams
[17:25] <czajkowski> waht team are you part of ?
[17:25] <rasha666> i know, i am creating NGO
[17:25] <rasha666> ubuntu-me
[17:26] <JanC> Montenegro?
[17:26] <czajkowski> so why do you need to set up an NGO ?
[17:26] <rasha666> yes
[17:26] <rasha666> i want to
[17:26] <rasha666> Center for Development of Digital Community
[17:26] <czajkowski> ok, well good luck with that
[17:27] <rasha666> JanC, yes
[17:27] <JanC> rasha666: if I understand correctly, you want to set up an NGO not only to promote Ubuntu
[17:27] <rasha666> JanC, yes.. it will be among other things
[17:27] <czajkowski> rasha666: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGOmight be of use to you
[17:27] <JanC> your NGO can work together with the locoteam (which is not an NGO)
[17:27] <czajkowski> indeed
[17:28] <rasha666> i know but we will work so much, and we will need so much cds
[17:28] <czajkowski> you don't need to create a new one in order to do this
[17:28] <czajkowski> rasha666: cds are limted to approved teams at release events or for a conferences
[17:29] <rasha666> i know, that is why i dont want to request new team.. i want to work among other things this too, but we dont have donators. so cant buy
[17:29] <czajkowski> rasha666: I dont think creating a 2nd team just to get extra cds is what is needed tbh
[17:29] <JanC> rasha666: you can have your own CDs pressed locally, and sell CDs at a small price that covers cost
[17:30] <rasha666> czajkowski, i know that is why i dont want second team
[17:30] <rasha666> JanC, as i told budget NONE
[17:31] <JanC> you can't set up an NGO with a zero budget...
[17:31] <rasha666> i can i need about 50 euros only
[17:32] <rasha666> and i can request from country only after 3 years
[17:32] <JanC> and a spindle of CD-Rs is much cheaper than 50 euro...
[17:33] <rasha666> yes, but i am not bank... i dont have money to spend for not profit things
[17:34] <JanC> you don't have to give them away, you can sell them at a small price to cover cost (and maybe a little more)
[17:35] <rasha666> there is this thing, hardly someone will install it, but to buy cd there is lower chanse
[17:35] <rasha666> i want to know, is there any way to get cds like NGO?
[17:35] <JanC> actually, if people have to pay for the CD, they are more likely to try it  ;)
[17:36] <rasha666> actually, in my country they dont want to buy anything
[17:36] <rasha666> thay hardly want to buy 2euros for copy of windows 7
[17:40] <JanC> then you probably better organise install parties and user group support meetings
[17:40] <rasha666> JanC, as loco team we are doing install party after next version :D
[17:43] <JanC> good  ☺
[17:44] <rasha666> i know
[17:44] <rasha666> and is there any way to get cds as NGO
[17:45] <JanC> usually only when you pay for them
[17:45] <rasha666> is there any email to contact Canonical, but some where i can get quicker answer
[17:47] <czajkowski> rasha666: nop you still have to buy them from the canonical shop
[17:47] <rasha666> too bad :)
[17:47] <JanC> or press/burn your own CDs
[17:47] <JanC> (which is much cheaper often)
[17:48] <rasha666> i will see than, if team can order double stack or something like that :D
[17:48] <JanC> and install parties don't need CDs at all
[17:48] <JoseeAntonioR> the teams can't order two CD packs, they can only order one per cycle
[17:49] <rasha666> JoseeAntonioR, i know i will need to check every thing there is
[17:49] <JanC> JoseeAntonioR: that's not entirely correct: all approved teams can order one pack at release time, and can request to get more for special events (e.g. conferences etc.)
[17:49] <JoseeAntonioR> JanC: yep, but those come in conference packs (as far as I know, my LoCo has never ordered more DVDs)
[17:50] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: every team is different
[17:50] <JanC> JoseeAntonioR: they come separately from the conference pack (but can be requested together)
[17:50] <rasha666> my team dont have any more cds i have 15 cds for presentation i am doing tomorow
[17:50] <czajkowski> rasha666: 15 is  still a lot
[17:51] <czajkowski> many people dont need them or will share
[17:51] <czajkowski> given lots of people dont use cds any more
[17:51] <rasha666> i know, but every man want to have it :D
[17:52] <JanC> rasha666: if they want to have it, they can pay for a CD-R  :p
[17:52] <JanC> or bring their own DVD-R or USB stick
[17:52] <rasha666> i know
[17:52] <rasha666> but everybody will say I NEED IT
[17:52] <rasha666> :D
[17:53] <rasha666> btw how can i buy All ubuntu cd-s for Desktop and Server since first release
[20:46] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: ping
[21:37] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: yes
[22:38] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: sorry, was afk, just wondering, do the conference packs come with DVDs with it?
[22:38] <czajkowski> one pack does
[22:38] <czajkowski> the approved one
[22:38] <czajkowski> you need to request them seperately
[22:38] <czajkowski> I thought we'd covered this before JoseeAntonioR
[22:38] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences
[22:39] <Neo31> hello folks, just in case, does the UGJ has to be on the same date world wide!? thank you :)
[22:39] <czajkowski> Neo31: it's over a weekend
[22:39] <czajkowski> friday -> sunday
[22:39] <czajkowski> so 3 days
[22:39] <czajkowski>  you don't haev to do them all though
[22:39] <Neo31> yes I was asking about the date not the duration
[22:40] <czajkowski> well in the past yes
[22:40] <Neo31> just in case we have some sponsoring issues, is it possible to do it the next week!?
[22:40] <czajkowski> if thats when it suits you then yes no problem
[22:41] <czajkowski> just create your event on the ltp
[22:41] <czajkowski> not sure it can be be added to the main event as that would have to be extended also and may lead to confusion as it has in the past
[22:41] <Neo31> ok thanks for the confirmation :) we are doing our best to be ready on time :)
[22:41] <czajkowski> np
[22:42] <Neo31> ok i see :) thank you
[22:43] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: yeah, I was in doubt, was confirming as per SergioMeneses' request
[23:21] <Neo31> czajkowski, we have received a conference pack in fall 2011, is it possible to request another one?