[06:46] <hazard_> you SHOULD be able to ping ips directly after asscoating with the wireless network and giving yourself an IP, then informing the configuration of the IP of the network gateway.
[06:46] <hazard_> then for all intents and purposes, if ping works, then the connection does to, and its just some stupid dhcp probelem
[06:46] <hazard_> that cold huh?
[06:48] <karmikaze> heh yeah
[06:48] <LBB> genii tried the reboot allready but grub> prompt again
[06:49] <hazard_> The windows in my dorm here suck, when its cold and windy out, the only thing that keeps me not-freezing is the wall of empty cheezit-boxes fillilng up the windows.
[06:49] <hazard_> (oddly enough they're FAR more effective than the windows at keeping out the cold-not so much the wind though, so the windows have their use)
[06:50] <LBB> genii so i need to read up on boot instead of kernel vmlinuz
[06:51] <rizwaan> media error: "malformed url"
[06:51] <rizwaan> whenever i insert a cd or usb disk
[06:51] <rizwaan> earlier i deleted my .kde and Desktop folder..
[06:52] <rizwaan> with a *new* user the error is not there
[06:52] <kay> !de
[06:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <moody> #ubuntu-pl
[06:52] <rizwaan> hello.. anybody here..
[06:53] <hazard_> rizwaan: so take their .kde folder
[06:53] <hazard_> and you need the Desktop folder so the system has somewhere to but the hotlink to the volume I think
[06:53] <rizwaan>  /media/disk is created with root.root permission
[06:53] <hazard_> and...?
[06:53] <rizwaan> hence, can't access media/disk
[06:53] <hazard_> where did that come into you recreating your desktop folder?
[06:54] <hazard_> ~/Desktop is needed so the systsem can create the hotlink to the volume MOUNTED in /media
[06:54] <hazard_> (I think, I'm pretty sure its just some funny kind of file)
[06:55] <rizwaan> hmmm..
[06:55] <rizwaan> i'll copy the *new* users's folder to my folder
[06:55] <rizwaan> and change the ownership
[06:55] <hazard_> Does the new user have a Desktop folder?
[06:55] <rizwaan> yes
[06:55] <rizwaan> i too have
[06:55] <hazard_> You just SAID you deleted it!
[06:56] <rizwaan> i logged on afterwards
[06:56] <rizwaan> may be with .kde folder
[06:57] <rizwaan> brb
[07:05] <dominik> ok
[07:06] <hazard_> eggs?
[07:09] <genii> OK all gotta go> Any last questions real fast? LBB, etc?
[07:09] <genii> 5
[07:09] <genii> 4
[07:10] <genii> 3
[07:10] <genii> 2
[07:10] <genii> 1
[07:10] <Darkkish> lalalla
[07:10] <Darkkish> hi
[07:10] <Darkkish> and thanks again
[07:10] <Darkkish> or not
[07:10] <Darkkish> XD
[07:13] <Darkkish> wahhh
[07:14] <karmikaze> if i have an ethernet wire plugged in can i still connect to wifi
[07:14] <karmikaze> or do i have to remove the cable
[07:14] <Darkkish> so is 2GB too big of a swap?
[07:14] <karmikaze> nah its not too big
[07:14] <Darkkish> no it should work karmikaze
[07:14] <karmikaze> i use 1gb typically
[07:14] <karmikaze> i duno if youd need 2gb really
[07:14] <Darkkish> i only have 512MB of ram on my linux comp so its probably a waste of space
[07:14] <Darkkish>  but its a 60GB drive so no worries.
[07:14] <karmikaze> unless you were running a lot of applications that need swapping
[07:15] <hazard_> you can
[07:15] <hazard_> its just I'm not quite sure which one the system is going to choose to use (and it might be tricky to test wireless that way)
[07:15] <Darkkish> lol it might not work for testing internet
[07:15] <Darkkish> but it will work just fine
[07:16] <hazard_> I think you can tell PING to use a specific interface, but that probably wouldn't be a good indicator of weather or not DNS lookups are working
[07:16] <ovidiu> join
[07:16] <ovidiu> #suceava
[07:17] <karmikaze>  /join #suceava
[07:17] <Darkkish> yay
[07:17] <Darkkish> this morning my wireless has decided not to work
[07:17] <karmikaze> welcome to hell Darkkish :P
[07:17] <Darkkish> i mean its all working
[07:17] <karmikaze> whats your issue?
[07:17] <karmikaze> but not connecting?
[07:17] <Darkkish> it just won't connect to the router
[07:17] <Darkkish> yeah
[07:17] <karmikaze> :P
[07:17] <karmikaze> welcome to my world
[07:17] <hazard_> my wireless card sometimes jsut dies, everything will say its working, but its clearly not, (for example, I'm in the woods, where there IS no wireless)
[07:18] <karmikaze> lol
[07:18] <Darkkish> lol
[07:18] <Darkkish> it has to be exercised everyonce in a while
[07:18] <Darkkish> :p
[07:18] <karmikaze> whipped you mean
[07:18] <karmikaze> lol
[07:18] <Darkkish> lol
[07:19] <hazard_> but that's because my wirelss card is physically directrly above my CPU heat sink-plate-thing, and when the system gets to hot, wirelss starts doing strange things
[07:19] <Darkkish> lol
[07:19] <Darkkish> well mines a laptop
[07:19] <hazard_> this is a laptop also.
[07:19] <Darkkish> and it was a gift idk where the wifi card is or who installed it
[07:19] <Darkkish> its definitly a wifi card problem thoguh
[07:20] <Darkkish> because i can't even connect to this persons router who doesn'[t have wep
[07:20] <hazard_> of course, both this computer and its wireless card are old (I've only got wireless B)
[07:20] <hazard_> but it works just fine.
[07:21] <Darkkish> is there any way to automate typing in the root pass every damn new thing i open?
[07:21] <hazard_> are you talkying about terminal windows?
[07:22] <Darkkish> no
[07:22] <hazard_> or ttys?
[07:22] <Darkkish> .. ttys?
[07:22] <Darkkish> whats a ttys
[07:22] <Darkkish> oh wierd
[07:22] <Darkkish> LMFAO
[07:22] <hazard_> ctrl-alt-f* (f7 is the default one)
[07:22] <Darkkish> dude
[07:22] <Darkkish> the wireless switch on the front of the lappy was switched to off
[07:23] <hazard_> Yes, you're a moron then.
[07:23] <Darkkish> (it never mattered in windows, i assumed it wsan't hooked up to anything at all)
[07:23] <karmikaze> lol
[07:23] <hazard_> the windows driver probably gets to access a command that isn't normally there in the system
[07:23] <hazard_> so the switch is for stuff that dosen't know about the 'special' command.
[07:24] <hazard_> yes, the (in this case not proverbial) broken/fixed switch.
[07:24] <Darkkish> lol karmikaze i just disabeled it and tried to enable it and it was going "enabling" for about 20 seconds, so i fliped the switch on the front, retried enabling and it enabled in a split second
[07:25] <karmikaze> heh
[07:25] <karmikaze> ok well i can connect instantly to non encrypted wifi networks
[07:25] <karmikaze> another weird thing is knetworkmanager doesnt seem to detect that wifi is working
[07:25] <karmikaze> but wlanassistant works fine
[07:25] <hazard_> That reminds me of the time a bios was complaining about 'can't find hd0', which I was at a loss to explain, until I realized that hd0 was in fact, not physically present.
[07:25] <karmikaze> heh
[07:26] <hazard_> Given the machine _HAS_ 14 drives in a standard case, remebering which drive is actually considered hd0 is no easy task (or noticing that it and its carrage are gone).
[07:26] <dominik> hello world :)
[07:26] <karmikaze> lol
[07:27] <hazard_> yea, so needless to day it was quite happy and worked perfectly again once I put the drive back in where it was supposed to be.
[07:28] <Darkkish> 14 drives?
[07:28] <hazard_> karmikaze: I seem to recall that some wireless key handlers don't like certian characters ( '!' seems like it'd be one of them)
[07:28] <hazard_> yes, 14 drives. In a case meant for 4.
[07:28] <karmikaze> indeed
[07:29] <karmikaze> its weird tho suse doesnt mind !
[07:29] <Darkkish> why hazard_?
[07:29] <karmikaze> but i'll try changing my key first
[07:29] <hazard_> because stacking more (free junk) drives into a case is cheaper than buying large drives.
[07:29] <Darkkish> lol
[07:29] <rohan> the compiz-kde package does not exist on edgy. how do i get AIGLX working on kubuntu, with compiz ?
[07:30] <Darkkish> I'd rather have one 100GB drive than ten 10GB drives
[07:30] <rohan> i have intel GMA 950, so i guess aiglx is the best choice ?
[07:30] <hazard_> Of course, getting them all to interface correctly requires some major creativity.
[07:30] <Darkkish> even if it cost me $80
[07:30] <dominik> i have a computer that does not even detect that there's a wireless usb device attached...
[07:30] <Darkkish> I bought a 400GB seagate drive for $80
[07:30] <hazard_> Yes, well, if I had 10 10gb drives, I'd span them so they'd appear as 1.
[07:30] <Darkkish> still
[07:30] <dominik> how do I make the computer detect the usb...?
[07:31] <hazard_> I've actually been considering fixing up the system so its less wildly bizzare, and getting a few large drives
[07:31] <karmikaze> dunno darkkish, having a big drive fail on you can be a pretty scarring experience :P
[07:31] <karmikaze> not that its happened to me, but ive had friends lose 300gb
[07:31] <karmikaze> that really sucks :P
[07:32] <hazard_> (but then I'd need to buy a REAL power supply, since my present power 'solution' is plenty POWERFUL, but it isn't exactly stable (or standard)
[07:32] <dominik> but, my other computer automatically picks up the wireless network without me doing anything..
[07:32] <hazard_> Heh, I had a friend with a 320 that fell out of its case, the drive still works, but the process of being pulled out of the enclosure while active completley screwed over the windows file system.
[07:32] <dominik> but my other computer tells me that no usable wireless devices found :(
[07:32] <xenol> plz wa is katapult for?
[07:32] <xenol> wat
[07:32] <karmikaze> what is the device dominik and what distro is your other system
[07:33] <fdoving> !katapult | xenol
[07:33] <ubotu> xenol: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[07:33] <hazard_> Linux & the afore mentioned machine with 14 smaller drives recovered all his stuff.
[07:33] <karmikaze> ooo katapult sounds cool!!
[07:33] <dominik> karmikaze: am using kubuntu 6.06 and the usb is d-link
[07:34] <karmikaze> dmesg reporting that it is connected?
[07:34] <hazard_> ah, karmi, you've got 6.10 right? it worked just fine in 6.06?
[07:34] <karmikaze> yeah hazard_
[07:34] <hazard_> oh, wait dominik!=Darkkish
[07:34] <karmikaze> its working on unencrypted networks now hazard_
[07:34] <karmikaze> im making a new key for my network, see if that makes a difference
[07:34] <hazard_> thinky-thread terminated.
[07:34] <Darkkish> whats up?
[07:35] <xenol> !krita
[07:35] <Realistic_Dragon> !kst
[07:35] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[07:35] <ubotu> kst: A KDE application used for displaying scientific data. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:35] <hazard_> air, and beyond that lots of open space.
[07:35] <xenol> !inkscape
[07:35] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[07:35] <xenol> !graphic tools
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <Darkkish> and whats after that hazard_
[07:35] <xenol> !graphics programs
[07:35] <hazard_> more space (or perhaps quarks)
[07:35] <hazard_> (or ether)
[07:36] <hazard_> Then I'm sure it eventually somehow loops in some mindcrunching way.
[07:37] <karmikaze> what are you after xenol
[07:37] <dominik> but when I run the kubuntu on my second computer, it picks up the wireless network...
[07:37] <mefisto__> I've got a question about Konversation: what do the nick colours mean?
[07:37] <ninHer> trying to install svn packet for gimp....warning; break packets
[07:37] <hazard_> does your 2nd computer have the same wireless card?
[07:37] <ninHer> and i can't install it
[07:37] <dominik> yes hazard
[07:37] <xenol> karmikaze i just want to know it there aint a list of all good graphic programs for ubuntu
[07:38] <ninHer> svg sorry
[07:38] <karmikaze> id go to adept or whatever and search graphics or soemthing
[07:38] <hazard_> dominik: no idea then, karmikaze seems to have some attraction to weird wireless problems though
[07:38] <karmikaze> what sort of graphics work you trying to do, painting, vectoring, photo manip?
[07:38] <dominik> hmm..
[07:38] <sean> Hey guys, just installed Kubuntu. :)
[07:38] <ninHer> i'm using adept right now
[07:38] <xenol> vectoring
[07:38] <karmikaze> dominik: pastebin your 'dmesg' when you plug in the device
[07:38] <muzscman> has anyone ever gotten the ati drivers to install for a laptop ati 200m?
[07:38] <xenol> got inkscape also gmp but i also onstalled blender
[07:38] <xenol> installed
[07:38] <karmikaze> in my experience usb wifi devices hate me even more
[07:38] <karmikaze> lol
[07:38] <ninHer> trying to open a svg file
[07:38] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, if enable nick colors, the nicks in the text take on various colors
[07:39] <karmikaze> svg
[07:39] <junky> hello
[07:39] <karmikaze> inkscape should do it
[07:39] <junky> can some one help me please
[07:39] <xenol> i know
[07:39] <hazard_> karmikaze: you just need to find the broken/fixed switch!
[07:39] <xenol> but any other program u know about?
[07:39] <karmikaze> lol yea
[07:39] <ninHer> thanks karmikaze
[07:39] <karmikaze> xenol vector programs?
[07:39] <junky> i see with low resolution colors videos and pictures why??
[07:39] <hazard_> (and I need to find an RA who isn't pass-out drunk)
[07:39] <junky> i have installed vidia drivers
[07:39] <xenol> yeah
[07:39] <karmikaze> hrmm
[07:40] <xenol> karmiakze well all kind of graphic program
[07:40] <dominik> how do I pastebin  my 'dmesg' ? sorry...am still learning these things :)
[07:40] <karmikaze> oh
[07:40] <xenol> !paste
[07:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:40] <karmikaze> well i like gimp a lot, krita is nice and simple
[07:40] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: yes, but who gets what colours?
[07:40] <karmikaze> domink on the command line run dmesg right after you plug in your usb thing
[07:40] <junky> plzzz
[07:40] <hazard_> I'm gunna go RA hunting, be back later.
[07:41] <karmikaze> xenol: i think inkscape is really the standard vector program these days
[07:41] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: eg, who gets colour 1, colour 2, etc? is it just randomly assigned to nicks just to look pretty, or does it have some meaning?
[07:41] <xenol> ah
[07:41] <karmikaze> but yeah search adept for vector, you might find some others
[07:41] <ninHer> karmikaze: yep, but i was trying to open it up with gimp
[07:41] <ninHer> it has a plug- in for
[07:41] <xenol> do u know any page where i can find most of open source softs and their review?
[07:42] <karmikaze> ah ninHer im not sure if gimp does svg, but inkscape defo does
[07:42] <karmikaze> xenol: linux format magazine has great reviews
[07:42] <junky> any one can  help  me plesase?
[07:42] <karmikaze> not sure about any sites in particular tho
[07:42] <ninHer> karmikaze: anyway....it worked inkscape
[07:42] <ninHer> lol
[07:42] <karmikaze> cool :)
[07:42] <ninHer> thanks again
[07:42] <karmikaze> np
[07:42] <ninHer> yweah
[07:42] <xenol> karmikaze u know some web page? i am kinda new and dont know a lot about these things
[07:43] <karmikaze> hrmm
[07:43] <Darkkish> is contact like OE?
[07:43] <sean> Haha, I feel like such a noob, I can't figure out how to run this Flashplayer installer. >.<
[07:43] <Darkkish> kontact*
[07:43] <Darkkish> sean lol
[07:43] <Darkkish> if you are downloading from adept
[07:43] <Darkkish> you have to click "view details"
[07:43] <karmikaze> lol sean
[07:43] <karmikaze>  ./flashinstallerfile
[07:43] <karmikaze> :)
[07:43] <karmikaze> did you unpack the tar?
[07:44] <sean> Yeah.
[07:44] <sean> It's in my home folder.
[07:44] <karmikaze> ok
[07:44] <karmikaze> cd into the folder it made
[07:44] <karmikaze> there should be some installer file
[07:44] <sean> Yeah.
[07:44] <karmikaze> and to run it you use ./thefile
[07:44] <sean> I've been double clicking on it for like 5 minutes. ^_^
[07:44] <karmikaze> nah use commandline
[07:44] <karmikaze> it asks you questions
[07:44] <hazard_> is it a source file? or a precompiled binary?
[07:45] <dominik> actually, the wireless use device is already plugged into the back of the computer, and all I had to do was insert the LiveCD and restart the computer..
[07:45] <Darkkish> why don't se just use apt-get?
[07:45] <karmikaze> ah did it work dominik
[07:45] <karmikaze> ive always used the manual flash installer
[07:45] <karmikaze> but yeah apt should work fine
[07:45] <Darkkish> yeah
[07:46] <sean> What should?
[07:46] <hazard_> a duck
[07:46] <sean> Sorry, just installed, I've no idea what I'm doing. :p
[07:46] <aleksanteri> !kate
[07:46] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:46] <dominik> ...and after that successfully loading the system, I'd go to KStart->Internet-> Wireless Assistence..
[07:46] <karmikaze> sean, can you open up a terminal?
[07:46] <VR_> !code
[07:46] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[07:46] <weedar> Okay, this is odd. I'm able to print test pages, but I can't print from applications like Acrobat Reader or Kpdf - Anyone got any ideas?
[07:46] <karmikaze> menu > system > konsole
[07:47] <rohan> how do i stop kmix starting on every login ?
[07:47] <dominik> that is where am getting the window message that there is no usable wireless device  :-(((
[07:47] <hazard_> weedar the pdf might be coded to not allow itself to be printed
[07:47] <fdoving> rohan: close it before loging out.
[07:47] <sean> Yeah, karmikaze
[07:47] <karmikaze> dominik: did you have it plugged in while you installed
[07:47] <karmikaze> ok sean
[07:47] <sean> I've got Kate open.
[07:47] <karmikaze> sean what?
[07:47] <karmikaze> lol
[07:47] <rohan> already did that, fdoving
[07:47] <rohan> didnt work
[07:47] <karmikaze> you still trying to do flash?
[07:47] <sean> Yeah.
[07:47] <karmikaze> on the konsole, cd flashdirectory or whatever it is
[07:48] <karmikaze> yah me too hazard_ lol
[07:48] <karmikaze> once you are in the flash directory in the konsole use the ./flashinstaller to run the program
[07:48] <jason_> i keep having this problem with firefox, it just keeps closing itself all of a sudden, what could b wrong with it?
[07:48] <hazard_> GAHH!!! I wanna go on break, but I need an RA to sign me out...
[07:48] <karmikaze> yeah same jason_
[07:48] <karmikaze> i dunno what it is.. buggy ff version or something
[07:49] <dominik> yes, karmikaze
[07:49] <karmikaze> hrmm
[07:49] <jason_> yeah, must be
[07:49] <hazard_> or a series of html/scripting exceptions it couldn't deal with.
[07:49] <karmikaze> dominik: so when you pull it out and plug it back in, does dmesg say there are any errors with the usb device?
[07:49] <chris_wafer> Salut  tous
[07:49] <karmikaze> it often crashes when i open a lot of new tabs suddenly
[07:49] <karmikaze> or do anything suddenly lol
[07:49] <dominik> nope, nothing
[07:49] <karmikaze> hrmm
[07:49] <karmikaze> not a good sign dominik
[07:50] <karmikaze> if dmesg isnt detecting a new device being added
[07:50] <hazard_> karmikaze: it might just be that the system just dosen't know its a device for networking.
[07:50] <karmikaze> i dont really know
[07:50] <karmikaze> but it should detect that something is there
[07:50] <hazard_> (or it requsts USB2 and the system dosen't have it)
[07:50] <karmikaze> even if it doesnt know what it is
[07:50] <karmikaze> not that id know how to fix it at that level
[07:50] <karmikaze> but its a starting point :P
[07:50] <dominik> but when I boot my other computer up with the same LiveCD, it works like magic there
[07:50] <hazard_> OR, the usb header is internally disconnected or disabled (that one was fun to figure out)
[07:50] <karmikaze> heh
[07:50] <weedar> hazard_: you might be right, I'm able to print from kedit it would seem
[07:51] <karmikaze> same distro version dominik?
[07:51] <xenol> karmikaze plz how can i make shortcut to my home folder on my desktop?
[07:51] <dominik> yep. the same CD
[07:51] <hazard_> but that would result in an infinite recursive loop!
[07:51] <hazard_> (which are great fun, but bad practice)
[07:51] <karmikaze> xenol: were you looking for reviews?? http://www.linux-magazine.com/
[07:52] <karmikaze> i used to subscribe to that magazine its great for people starting out
[07:52] <karmikaze> you can find it at any big bookstore too
[07:52] <karmikaze> weird dominik
[07:52] <hazard_> OH...WAIT, xenol: do you know how to open a terminal?
[07:52] <dominik> I've been banging my head on the table, and it begining to halt now...
[07:53] <xenol> hazard_ lol yes
[07:53] <hazard_> headbanging...that sounds like me during my calc2 final (which I stand a 90% of having failed)
[07:53] <karmikaze> xenol you got the home dir on your toolbar??
[07:53] <karmikaze> just drag it onto the desktop from there
[07:53] <xenol> i got there only system
[07:53] <hazard_> xenol: ln -s ${HOME} ${HOME}/Desktop/Xenols_House
[07:53] <hazard_> I think, but I might have the paths backwards
[07:54] <karmikaze> xenol: right click the desktop, create new link to location
[07:54] <hazard_> or that.
[07:54] <karmikaze> then just add /home/username
[07:54] <hazard_> (but I like my way better)
[07:54] <xenol> well it creates only desktop conf file
[07:54] <karmikaze> heh
[07:54] <karmikaze> yeh me too hazard_ ;D
[07:54] <xenol> if u mean that
[07:54] <mefisto__> xenol: to make a shortcut, just drag the folder to the desktop (or anywhere you want it to be), and when you drop it, a menu comes up. choose "link here"
[07:54] <xenol> and no icon or anything white
[07:55] <xenol> thx
[07:55] <karmikaze> np
[07:55] <karmikaze> oh
[07:55] <karmikaze> haha
[07:55] <karmikaze> yeah
[07:55] <karmikaze> that too
[07:55] <kkathman> does anyone know why knotify starts up at boot?
[07:55] <hazard_> heh, OSX dosen't know what to think of me having a symlink on my desktop to my desktop.
[07:56] <karmikaze> yeah ff crashes whenever i try to open more than one tab at a time
[07:56] <hazard_> I'm going to stap confusing it before I break something {else}.
[07:56] <karmikaze> if i wait for it to load then open the next tab its fine
[07:56] <sean> karmikaze:  Got a terminal open.
[07:56] <karmikaze> ok sean
[07:56] <sean> Had to go to the loo, sorry. :)
[07:56] <hazard_> I thought seen was all better...?
[07:57] <karmikaze> sean: do     cd flashdirectoryname
[07:57] <karmikaze> or whatever its called
[07:57] <karmikaze> that will put the konsole in the directory
[07:57] <hazard_> or you could drag the flash folder to the terminal window
[07:57] <karmikaze> ooh thats clever
[07:57] <karmikaze> heh
[07:57] <sean> ok
[07:58] <karmikaze> ok sean now do ls
[07:58] <hazard_> Well, its the only way I can get anywhere when I'm feeling insane, and have unicode characters in file names.
[07:58] <karmikaze> you see all the files in there
[07:58] <sean> yeah
[07:58] <karmikaze> sean: then you can run the installer by doing     ./flashinstallerthing
[07:58] <soulrider> hi everyone
[07:58] <karmikaze> should be easy from there
[07:58] <hazard_> hi8 mauro_
[07:58] <soulrider> is it posible to resize a EXT3 partition without losing data ?
[07:58] <soulrider> it only has a few GB used
[07:58] <sean> Thanks mate, sorted. :)
[07:59] <karmikaze> yeah soulrider i think that should be ok with qparted
[07:59] <karmikaze> sean: :D
[07:59] <soulrider> qparted or qtparted ?
[07:59] <hazard_> I'd probably just clone the drive anyway.
[07:59] <karmikaze> yeah qtparted
[07:59] <fdoving> soulrider: it's possible to increase the partition size, but not decrease.
[07:59] <karmikaze> heh
[07:59] <soulrider> ahh k
[07:59] <karmikaze> yeah backup anything cruicial
[07:59] <karmikaze> but it should be fine really
[07:59] <soulrider> fdoving:  :(
[07:59] <karmikaze> oh fdoving?
[07:59] <soulrider> that REA::Y sucks
[07:59] <karmikaze> boo
[08:00] <soulrider> ah damn
[08:00] <karmikaze> well id back up anything critical before playing with partitions anyway
[08:00] <fdoving> soulrider: actually.. you can. i read 'without rebooting'.. of course you can resize it.
[08:00] <xenol> karmikaze i made somt stupid thing i wanted to change icon and i changed icons of all folders :( how can i remove it? need ot find folder icon,
[08:00] <soulrider> fdoving: so i can reduce the size?
[08:00] <karmikaze> hrm
[08:00] <soulrider> i need to split it into 2 actually
[08:00] <karmikaze> not sure xenol, you wanna change ALL folder icons, or just one
[08:01] <fdoving> soulrider: yes, that's possible. i'd recommend a livecd with qtparted or gparted. there is a gparted-livecd that is good.
[08:01] <xenol> only one
[08:01] <karmikaze> ah right click it
[08:01] <soulrider> i got the kubuntu live CD
[08:01] <soulrider> i dont really trust it though
[08:01] <soulrider> also
[08:01] <karmikaze> properties, and click the image
[08:01] <karmikaze> you can change it like that
[08:01] <soulrider> will it screw kubuntu up? last time i did something like that it went ebrserk
[08:01] <karmikaze> >_>
[08:01] <soulrider> my root is sda1, i want to partition sda3
[08:03] <hazard_> you want to make sda3 a diffrent size? (and youa ctually do have 3 partions on the drive? [sda1 swap and sda3?]  and your drives are really scsi? [sata uses sd* notation?] )
[08:03] <soulrider> yes, its a SCSI drive
[08:03] <soulrider> i got
[08:03] <soulrider> sda1 as root
[08:03] <soulrider> sda2 as swap
[08:03] <soulrider> and sda3 for stuff
[08:03] <soulrider> i wnat to split sda3 into 2
[08:03] <hazard_> nice, what kind? Scsi1->scsi3Ultra?
[08:03] <karmikaze> yeah that should be fine soulrider
[08:03] <soulrider> i think its SCSI3
[08:03] <Darkkish> use a partition manager?
[08:04] <soulrider> are SCSI drives good? my dad bought it :P
[08:04] <karmikaze> scsi is fastest
[08:04] <karmikaze> :)
[08:04] <karmikaze> nice drives usually
[08:04] <Darkkish> yah :D
[08:04] <soulrider> ohh
[08:04] <soulrider> :D
[08:04] <karmikaze> ^_^
[08:04] <soulrider> awesome!
[08:04] <karmikaze> ata < sata < sata2 < scsi
[08:04] <karmikaze> scsi ftw!
[08:04] <soulrider> w00t
[08:04] <hazard_> Scsi Drives are generally faster than IDE, and scsi3Ultra is still faster than SATA2 (not by much though) however, there's other advantages, like the fact that even half-decient scsi controllers be the crap out of most sata controllers
[08:05] <soulrider> that just made my day LD
[08:05] <soulrider> :D
[08:05] <karmikaze> mmm
[08:05] <karmikaze> hehehe
[08:06] <xenol> wat is better? firefox or konqueror and thunderbird or kmail?
[08:06] <xenol> !kmail
[08:06] <ubotu> kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2174 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[08:06] <soulrider> xenol: Opera
[08:06] <rohan> xenol: depends on your choice :p
[08:06] <karmikaze> i love konqueror, dunno why i dont use it more...
[08:07] <soulrider> weird.... i got a DVD i burned here
[08:07] <karmikaze> better what what?
[08:07] <lupine_85> konq. ++
[08:07] <karmikaze> mail???
[08:07] <soulrider> but linux wont show any file son it or anything
[08:07] <fdoving> xenol: konqueror and mailody (mailody.net)
[08:07] <Darkkish> i use firefox
[08:07] <Darkkish> i just like it
[08:07] <soulrider> like if nothing was inserted
[08:07] <fdoving> !mailody
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <hazard_> I love konqueror's name, I hate the program
[08:07] <lupine_85> kmail ~=
[08:07] <Darkkish> i've heard konq runs smother
[08:07] <karmikaze> i havent tried kmail in years, last time i did it ate all my imap mail D:
[08:07] <Darkkish> smoother
[08:07] <soulrider> xenol: i use Opera for browsing and email
[08:07] <Darkkish> ... ew
[08:07] <karmikaze> thunderbird is very good for mail, simple
[08:07] <Darkkish> i tried opera i just can't get used to it, it has no extensions
[08:07] <karmikaze> mailody sounds cool
[08:07] <lupine_85> thunderbird is too slow for me
[08:08] <Darkkish> i happen to be installing thunderbird right now
[08:08] <lupine_85> but I can't get used to mutt :p
[08:08] <xenol> well since konqueror is everything it is browser file viewer FTP client wat else it is?
[08:08] <lupine_85> kmail is OK
[08:08] <karmikaze> i miss pine :'(
[08:08] <karmikaze> heh
[08:08] <karmikaze> i love k everything for its configurability
[08:08] <karmikaze> but i cant trust it now
[08:08] <hazard_> pine?
[08:08] <karmikaze> ncurses <3
[08:08] <karmikaze> terminal based mail client
[08:08] <hazard_> ah
[08:08] <lupine_85> mutt > pine :p
[08:08] <karmikaze> yah
[08:08] <karmikaze> hehe
[08:09] <lupine_85> karmikaze: I use Kmail with IMAP
[08:09] <lupine_85> works fine
[08:09] <karmikaze> i should try mutt again actually
[08:09] <karmikaze> cool lupine
[08:09] <karmikaze> it was 3-4 years ago i last tried kmail
[08:09] <karmikaze> i bet big advancements have been made since
[08:09] <xenol> why i dont see Kmail in internet folder? :O
[08:09] <karmikaze> heh xenol
[08:09] <karmikaze> search for it on apt or adept or whatever
[08:10] <xenol> it is installed :P
[08:10] <Darkkish> wtf
[08:10] <Darkkish> why does my thunderbird mail from adept have an ugly gnome icon?
[08:10] <Ksi> does anyone know why flash isn't working on my live cd 6.10? i can install other things (like vlc), but after i installed flash, when i used Fx, it would just close when a flash page is loaded.
[08:10] <karmikaze> lol Darkkish get a new theme for it then
[08:10] <Darkkish> no karmikaze the button
[08:11] <Darkkish> in the menu
[08:11] <karmikaze> oh haha
[08:11] <Darkkish> looks like a brown envelope
[08:11] <karmikaze> well you can configure that too
[08:11] <Darkkish> still
[08:11] <Darkkish> ewww
[08:11] <karmikaze> <3 k configurability
[08:11] <hazard_> I like how my common mode of 'configure stuff' is 'mame beyond recognition'
[08:11] <xenol> well if i install every kind of sh*t on linux will it become sluggish as windows with<PHONE_NUMBER>6749 apps installed?
[08:11] <xenol> i guess no
[08:12] <karmikaze> heh only if you run them all at the same time xenol
[08:12] <soulrider> lol, i had this unlabeled DVD here, and linux wouldnt read it.  I went to my dads computer that runs windows to see what it was.... and it was Vista :P
[08:12] <soulrider> i didnt get the "whata  piece of crap" part wrong :P
[08:12] <karmikaze> you can always easily uninstall stuff once you know you dont want it
[08:12] <hazard_> depends on if they start deamons, that or if they dump BOATLOADS of files inthe same few folders
[08:13] <xenol> hmm i uninstall apps but conf files stay on disk or no?
[08:13] <hazard_> (and by boatloads, I mean you MIGHT have problems if there's more than 2k files in a single folder that's frequently accessed)
[08:13] <hazard_> (probably more like 8k though)
[08:14] <xenol> lol
[08:14] <xenol> if i want to reach 8k files in one folder i have to be isntalling and unninstlling staff 24/7
[08:14] <xenol> :D
[08:14] <hazard_> no..
[08:14] <hazard_> because then you'd installing then deleting the same files
[08:14] <xenol> k one question
[08:15] <karmikaze> xenol: one of the best software sites http://freshmeat.net/ can search for anything on there
[08:15] <karmikaze> or sourceforge.net
[08:15] <xenol> if i install thunderbird and for example it installs some other libraries as libxxx (example only) will stay installed or will be  uninstalled too?
[08:16] <fdoving> xenol: you can have them uninstalled if you want to. it's not automatic yet.
[08:16] <karmikaze> depends if other software uses those libs too
[08:17] <hazard_> I think it would depend on what you had install it, adept seems to do ok at keeping that stuff straight
[08:17] <karmikaze> libs are usually of negligable size anyway
[08:17] <hazard_> not on 4G drives.
[08:17] <karmikaze> lol
[08:17] <karmikaze> :$
[08:17] <lupine_85> xenol: with apt-get, they will be left. With aptitude, they'll be removed
[08:17] <karmikaze> o rly
[08:17] <lupine_85> deborphan is also your friend
[08:17] <lupine_85> ya rly
[08:17] <xenol> well i want to know this if i install thunderbird and some other files r installed with it
[08:18] <xenol> and when i uninstall thunderbird those files will be unninstalled automatically?
[08:18] <lupine_85> xenol: if you use aptitude, yes
[08:18] <karmikaze> itll tell you how many packages have to be installed to get the program in adept
[08:18] <hazard_> what? my armies of obsolete 4G drives work great for boot drives (and ~6 together make up a noticiable amount of space!)
[08:18] <xenol> so aptitude is for ermoving packages ?
[08:18] <karmikaze> or installing them
[08:18] <xenol> and apt-get?
[08:18] <lupine_85> no, you have to install it with aptitude and remove it with aptitude
[08:18] <lupine_85> aptitude is a smart version of apt-get
[08:18] <hazard_> aptitude, that's what I meant by adept
[08:19] <xenol> ach
[08:19] <karmikaze> lol
[08:19] <lupine_85> aptitude != adept
[08:19] <lupine_85> aptitude is a smarter, drop-in replacement for apt-get
[08:19] <xenol> well graphic based and apt-egt is in konsole right?
[08:19] <lupine_85> aptitude is also terminal-based
[08:19] <hazard_> there's dselect to, but I've had it on multiple occastions decide everything on the system was UNWORTHY of being installed.
[08:19] <hazard_> Then again, aptitude has done that to me too.
[08:19] <lupine_85> where you would do apt-get install, do aptitude install; apt-get remove becomes aptitude remove
[08:20] <Darkkish> editing the panel next to K is very annoying
[08:20] <hazard_> (then there was the time that in order to satsify dependcies, aptitude decided to remove my kernel)
[08:20] <lupine_85> hazard_: yep, that's it :)
[08:20] <lupine_85> it's extremely smart - that's the problem...
[08:20] <xenol> so using aptitude is risky? :D
[08:20] <Darkkish> OMG
[08:20] <Darkkish> i just figured out how to do it
[08:21] <Darkkish> its really easy, right click > move
[08:21] <karmikaze> yeah lol
[08:21] <karmikaze> so lupine_85 if you want the benefits of aptitude you have to use it all the time then?
[08:21] <karmikaze> to install and remove
[08:21] <lupine_85> no
[08:21] <zigovr> hi all, how can I remove the "hibernate" and "sleep" buttons from kde "shutdown" menu ?
[08:21] <karmikaze> ok
[08:21] <lupine_85> just on the packages you want the benefits with
[08:21] <karmikaze> ok cool
[08:21] <lupine_85> if you apt-get install a package, aptitude remove == apt-get remove
[08:22] <karmikaze> zigovr: right click the kmenu button and configure the menus
[08:22] <karmikaze> oh wait no
[08:22] <genii> Yay electricity is on at home again :)
[08:22] <LBB_> genii ! working overours?
[08:22] <zigovr> karmikaze: yeah sorry it's not a menu buy a dialog box in fact, I explained wrong :)
[08:22] <genii> LBB Nah I just got home, thought I'd check in before I crash
[08:23] <hazard_> you're planning on crashing...on purpose? :P
[08:23] <karmikaze> zigovr: in kcontrol somewhere you can disable the shutdown ability of users
[08:23] <karmikaze> like make shutdown need root password or something?
[08:23] <genii> Yeah I'm a crash-test dummy ;)
[08:23] <hazard_> karmikaze given up on wireless yet?
[08:23] <LBB_> genii so i'd guess i'd better not keep you away from your bed with my grub-stuff
[08:24] <hazard_> what grub stuff?
[08:24] <karmikaze> hazard_: it works :D on unencrypted anyway
[08:24] <zigovr> karmikaze: I'll check it, but I want to keep the possibility to shutdown, just since "sleep" and "hibernate" do not work on that computer I want to remove them
[08:24] <karmikaze> im getting complacent, and stealing wifi tho
[08:24] <genii> LBB Nah I love a good saga :)
[08:24] <karmikaze> should sort out my network so it works
[08:24] <karmikaze> oh i see
[08:24] <karmikaze> im not sure zigovr
[08:24] <Darkkish> its cool to have a lappy :)
[08:24] <Darkkish> even if its an old crappy one
[08:24] <karmikaze> hazard_: what symbols is kubuntu ok with in wifi keys??
[08:24] <zigovr> I removed them in /etc/acpi, but kde doesn't seem to look in there
[08:24] <hazard_> I know I've managed to Fix GRUB *ONCE* and have mangled it at least a dozen times.
[08:24] <genii> hazard Basically a grub rebuild after doing grub-install to the wrong partition etc
[08:25] <hazard_> karmikaze: I'd say letters. and basic numbers.
[08:25] <karmikaze> :P
[08:25] <karmikaze> ok hazard_
[08:26] <genii> LBB So made any progress with it? New developments/further booting etc ?
[08:26] <hazard_> Try that, if that dosen't work then there's probably something wrong with the wpa encryptian handling in 6.10 (or it hates a combination of YOU, the wireless card, your router, that specific character sequence and some bald guy in Montana)
[08:26] <karmikaze> hazard_: do you know how i can find out which driver my wifi card is actually using
[08:26] <hazard_> lsmod?
[08:26] <karmikaze> lol hazard_
[08:27] <genii> Hmm as opposed to complex numbers LOL
[08:27] <hazard_> I don't know, and I can't investigate for you.
[08:27] <karmikaze> i'll find it :)
[08:27] <hazard_> no [booting]  kubuntu machine available.
[08:27] <Darkkish> hi genii
[08:28] <LBB2> genii great! now i booted to a grub prompt and typed basicaly one of the items of my menu.lst (root kernel initrd savedefault boot). The system started booting, but then said (after mentioning the lvm's "ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[08:28] <genii> LBB2 That LBB?
[08:28] <LBB2> yup, LBB was taken
[08:28] <hazard_> what's LBB>?
[08:28] <genii> Darkkish Heyas :)
[08:28] <LBB2> hazard thats me
[08:28] <genii> hazard_ Some guy with a convoluted grub issue! ROFL
[08:29] <hazard_> Oh, Hi.
[08:29] <LBB2> hi
[08:29] <karmikaze> ipw it seems, lsmod was the right place to look
[08:29] <hazard_> cool, what's ipw?
[08:29] <genii> LBB So it gave some LVM message? Interesting
[08:29] <hazard_> (i'm tired, and hungry, and my brain no worky from physics final)
[08:30] <genii> LBB do you have the original pastebin for your first sfdisk output?
[08:30] <karmikaze> hehehe
[08:30] <karmikaze> ipw is the driver for my wifi card
[08:30] <genii> LBB2 So it gave some LVM message? Interesting
[08:30] <genii> LBB2 do you have the original pastebin for your first sfdisk output?
[08:30] <karmikaze> kwlan seems to be a good program
[08:30] <karmikaze> has built in wpa_supplicant
[08:30] <hazard_> genii is there any way to fix a grub installation which pointed to linux install on a drive that has ceased to exsist?
[08:31] <LBB2> genii i wrote the message down, and can paste it
[08:31] <genii> Sorry for dbl posts guys :) Wrong nick etc etc and no caffeine
[08:31] <hazard_> I know the feeling.
[08:31] <genii> haxard_ Yes, yes there is LOL
[08:31] <LBB2> genii what do you mean ""
[08:31] <LBB2> genii what do you mean "original pastebin"
[08:32] <Darkkish> if i installed xfce on this machine
[08:32] <genii> LBB2 Remeber at the very beginning we had a dump from sfdisk which you patebinned. It had the partition type of Amoeba for hda2 That url
[08:32] <karmikaze> mmmmyesh
[08:32] <Darkkish> can i just boot to it from the lon\gin page?
[08:32] <Darkkish> can i just boot to it from the login page?
[08:32] <karmikaze> yes Darkkish
[08:32] <rohan> how do i tell kubuntu to use synaptics driver and not the generic mouse driver that xorg is current using ?
[08:32] <karmikaze> speaking of the login manager, how can i change that ugly blue background
[08:32] <Darkkish> lol
[08:32] <Darkkish> its not ugly :O
[08:32] <LBB2> genii i'm on a live cd remember, and did't write it down...
[08:33] <karmikaze> i tried in kcontrol but it doesnt change until after i login which is pointless
[08:33] <hazard_> karmikaze: I know this one! Or at least I remember changing it once. Then promptly killing the loginmanager somehow (I don't *THINK* the two events were related)
[08:33] <genii> LBB@ Hmm. OK. Pls do a sudo fdisk /dev/hda  then p     thentell me which partition has LVM for the type please :)
[08:34] <LBB2> genii if there's a search function in pastebin i could find it with my new fsdisk dump
[08:34] <Darkkish> is xfce in universe/
[08:34] <genii> bleh
[08:34] <genii> LBB2 Hmm. OK. Pls do a sudo fdisk /dev/hda  then p     thentell me which partition has LVM for the type please :)
[08:34] <LBB2> genii ok
[08:34] <hazard_> so yea, karmikaze I really don't actually know.l
[08:35] <xenol> well i just isntalled firefox
[08:35] <xenol> and i dont like it
[08:35] <xenol> crappy icon :p
[08:35] <zlodey> -
[08:35] <karmikaze> lol
[08:35] <Darkkish> zlodey lifting weights?
[08:35] <genii> xenol But it's so cute when it does the boingy boingy bounce :)
[08:36] <karmikaze> firefox can be beautified, but at this point its not worth it as the thing crashes all the time in kubuntu
[08:36] <zlodey> karmikaze ?
[08:36] <xenol> aha
[08:36] <Darkkish> i love the ff icon
[08:36] <Darkkish> i think you're insane
[08:36] <karmikaze> im sticking with konqueror til the bugs are smoothed out
[08:36] <LBB2> genii hda5
[08:37] <hazard_> WHY IS THE UNIVERSE KEEPING ME TRAPPED IN THIS DORM?
[08:37] <genii> LBB2 OK lemme think for a minute
[08:37] <zlodey> help me
[08:37] <Imrahil> xenol chooses software based on the nicest icon. I wonder if he actually uses it or just looks at the icon all day
[08:37] <hazard_> lol
[08:37] <__mikem> hazard_ BECAUSE THE UNIVERSE HATES YOU
[08:37] <hazard_> hahahahahhahhaha
[08:37] <xenol> :D
[08:37] <karmikaze> ???
[08:37] <karmikaze> ???what with
[08:38] <hazard_> well, I already kniew that.
[08:38] <zlodey> hazard_ you lol
[08:38] <karmikaze> lol
[08:38] <hazard_> But why _NOW_ all the tests are over, and I have no more drugs.
[08:38] <hazard_> (perscription)
[08:38] <karmikaze> xenol, kde-look.org
[08:38] <karmikaze> :P
[08:38] <karmikaze> get some new icon sets or something
[08:38] <hazard_> if I can't get out of here, tomarrow (and the day after) are probably not going to go well.
[08:39] <Darkkish> !xfce
[08:39] <Imrahil> hazard_: going to celebrate christmas?
[08:39] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[08:39] <xenol> well u said it FF is buggy and it crashes a lot
[08:39] <genii> LBB2 And pls pastebin the original menu.lst so I can reexamine :)
[08:39] <xenol> !fluxbuntu
[08:39] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[08:39] <hazard_> and since all my stuff is packed up, I'm BORED TO TEARS
[08:39] <LBB2> genii OK
[08:39] <karmikaze> oooh fluxubuntu
[08:39] <karmikaze> lol awesome
[08:40] <zlodey> hazard_ you lol
[08:40] <hazard_> Imrahil: yes. (in theory)
[08:41] <Imrahil> dorms during holidays make baby jesus cry
[08:41] <hazard_> Assuming I ever find a concious RA, and I get word on weather or not I have a ride.
[08:41] <genii> anyone remember what default lvm /dev entry is?
[08:42] <hazard_> Imrahil: From experience?
[08:42] <hazard_> I should also note that have $.50, and no food.
[08:42] <LBB2> genii http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38270/
[08:43] <genii> LBB2 Thx brb
[08:43] <LBB2> !brb
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <hazard_> \nick hazard
[08:43] <Darkkish> lol
[08:43] <Darkkish> wrong /
[08:44] <Darkkish> lol
[08:44] <Darkkish> today just might not be your day
[08:44] <hazard_cant_type> there we go.
[08:44] <hazard_cant_type> (there were 5 additional attempts before I got 'nick' spelled right
[08:45] <genii> LBB2 If you have hda2 mounted on /mnt/tmpboot again: please  ls -l /mnt/tmpboot/dev/mapper/system-root/*  and pastebin
[08:45] <genii> brb = Be Right Back
[08:46] <hazard2> there, finally one remotely close to what I want that isn't already taken.
[08:47] <hazardx> that's actually better.
[08:47] <genii> yes better than 2 at the end :)
[08:47] <hazardx> my thougts exactly.
[08:47] <RealisticDragon> lots of users on this network :)
[08:47] <RealisticDragon> is it bigger than DALnet yet?
[08:48] <hazardx> Woa! a Realistic Dragon!
[08:48] <Imrahil> hazardx: actually I spent almost no time in my dorm room on account of my roomate leaving all manners of food around until it got stanky in there and was embarrasing to have people around
[08:48] <darkkish_> hey i'm going to talk on my laptop
[08:48] <darkkish_> because i'm installing valve hammer editor on my desktop
[08:49] <chupa-chups> #python
[08:49] <genii> me thinks about festvus ..err festival
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> woo, freenode.net is now in the top 10 of networks (number 9)
[08:49] <LBB2> genii i dont there is no dev dir on my mounted hda2
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> graph of IRC networks is here: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/top10graphs.php
[08:49] <vado> Bonsoir tout le monde
[08:49] <hazardx> Imrahil: Yea, my old roomate was like that (and he smoked,boozed and got high _ALOT_), and it was annoying finding M&Ms ALL OVER THE ROOM.
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago>  hmm, i just installed edgy and I can't get HTTP stuff to work
[08:50] <darkkish_> lol it works for me
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> I am on IRC, but if I follow anykind of link, it does not repond
[08:50] <RealisticDragon> have you got a HTTP proxy Admiral_Chicago?
[08:50] <darkkish_> i'm pretty sure this is edgy...
[08:50] <RealisticDragon> your network might need it, especially if its a college one
[08:50] <hazardx> my Kubuntu box here is RamLess, so yea, my HTTP dosen't work either.
[08:50] <genii> LBB2 OK, thx. The root device in your menu.lst is described as /dev/mapper/system-root    but it looks like udev is doing it on the fly. This is where the drives/partitions that make up an lvm drive would be listed.
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> RealisticDragon: not that I know of
[08:51] <darkkish_> RamLess?
[08:51] <hazardx> no ram.
[08:51] <darkkish_> ... you can do that?
[08:51] <darkkish_> that sounds realllllyyyyy craawwwlllliinnggg sloowww'
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> RealisticDragon: I'm on the pppoe system at my house and it doesn't connect
[08:51] <RealisticDragon> i doubt ameritech has a proxy indeed
[08:51] <hazardx> No, you can't, that's my point.
[08:51] <genii> LBB2 You *MAY* want to try the way we changed the partition type of hda2 before and put it to lvm type from linux type.
[08:51] <hazardx> no ram == no worky
[08:51] <RealisticDragon> can you use https?
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> there was a line i "plog" about some ARP roxy failing
[08:52] <darkkish_> lol oh
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> RealisticDragon: let me try
[08:52] <g-henna> hi everyone!
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> no
[08:52] <karmikaze> hi!
[08:52] <g-henna> i have a very odd error with kaffeine on edgy
[08:52] <hazardx> hi karmikaze!
[08:52] <darkkish_> how do i change my default browser to FF?
[08:53] <g-henna> when starting kaffeine, the window pops up, but doesn't fill with content, i.e. the user interface doesn't load. very odd: when i insert a dvd, i can play it with kmplayer, but not with kaffeine. actually... well, i can hear the sound, but the ui is frozen
[08:53] <genii> LBB2 eg:   sudo fdisk /dev/hda   ..'t"  "2" lvm type change code here .... "w"     then try reboot again
[08:53] <RealisticDragon> probably in system settings darkkish_
[08:54] <misael> how do i run a .bin file?
[08:54] <hazardx> I KNOW! I'll play with SSH and see if I can get enough webtraffic going to make the VOIP phone at home stop working!
[08:54] <icheyne> I'm having a nightmare with my nvidia card. I tried to install the nvidia beta drivers so I could get beryl working, but they caused a lot of flickering. I rolled everything back - even changing my xorg.conf back to the nv drivers, but I am still getting the flickering. Any solutions?
[08:54] <misael> how do i get it to execute
[08:54] <karmikaze> darkkish_: kcontrol > system administration > windows applications > applications
[08:54] <genii> LBB2 8e is linux lvm code
[08:54] <darkkish_> thanks
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> RealisticDragon: any ideas?
[08:54] <misael> what do i have to write in the konsole?
[08:54] <LBB2> genii I'm not sure i understand you correct. my hda2 is formatted as ext2, do you want me to reformat it?
[08:54] <misael> to run a bin file
[08:55] <darkkish_> karmikaze: are you running edgy?
[08:55] <misael> to  make ut executable
[08:55] <karmikaze> yeah darkkish_
[08:55] <genii> LBB2 No, do *NOT* reformat. I'll walk you thru it again
[08:55] <hazardx> icheyne: it sounds like your system just changed the refresh rate to something liess than 75hz (unless you don't have a CRT, in which case your flat panel is about to explode)
[08:55] <karmikaze> you not have that option?
[08:55] <darkkish_> no its K~
[08:55] <darkkish_> er
[08:55] <g-henna> when using xine directly from xine-ui, this works fine, so there must be some problem with kaffeine and a kplayerpart or so
[08:55] <misael> HOW DO  I RUN A .BIN FILE?
[08:55] <genii> LBB2 step1: umount /mnt/tmpboot
[08:55] <darkkish_> karmikaze:  K > System Settings > Default Applications
[08:55] <hazardx> misael: weren't you asking about this...yesterday?
[08:55] <g-henna> misael: OPEN THE CONSOLE AND TYPE ./MYFILE:BIN
[08:56] <icheyne> thanks hazardx but the change back to the nv drivers fixed my refresh rate and I'm back to 85htz.
[08:56] <genii> LBB2 Step 2: sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> !caps
[08:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:56] <karmikaze> misael: make sure you have permission to execute, chmod +x filename
[08:56] <karmikaze> then try
[08:56] <LBB2> genii my response was to two messages back . I do understand "sudo fdisk /dev/hda   ..'t"  "2" lvm type change code here .... "w"     then try reboot again"
[08:56] <misael> ok
[08:56] <misael> thanks
[08:56] <karmikaze> sure darkkish_ :P
[08:56] <g-henna> ubotu: SIR, YESSIR! :-)
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SIR, YESSIR! :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <karmikaze> kcontrol somewhere ;)
[08:56] <genii> LBB2 Sorry, tired :)
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that is a bot.
[08:56] <g-henna> *lol*
[08:56] <karmikaze> brb cookin
[08:56] <LBB2> genii i'm a bit slow typing
[08:56] <hazardx> lol @ g-henna
[08:57] <hazardx> errr....so....hungry.... (karmikaze)
[08:57] <LBB2> genii what i meant was: I'm sure my hda2 should be ext2, thats how i formatted it when installing my last working system+grub
[08:58] <misael> it tells me that srcds_run.bin donot exist
[08:58] <misael> :s
[08:58] <genii> LBB2 Using fdisk to change the partition type does not change what filesystem is on it
[08:58] <Darkkish> hey genii
[08:58] <genii> LBB2 Or how it was formatted etc
[08:58] <genii> Darkkish Hey :)
[08:58] <Darkkish> do i won't my desired default display manager to be gdm or kdm for xubuntu?
[08:58] <LBB2> genii but it does change the way it is being read, right?
[08:59] <genii> LBB2 No. If that were the case you would not have been able to mount it previoulsly using mount -t ext2    when partition type was at Amoeba
[08:59] <Darkkish> do i won't my desired default display manager to be gdm or kdm for xubuntu? genii
[09:00] <LBB2> genii i am able to mount it that way
[09:00] <genii> Darkkish kdm :)
[09:00] <hazardx> I hope everyone in my physics class failed the final.
[09:00] <Darkkish> mk
[09:00] <hazardx> (becuase then I get a good grade)
[09:00] <RealisticDragon> Darkkish i think that gdm looks better :) and xubuntu already has gtk installed
[09:00] <RealisticDragon> i believe
[09:00] <darkkish_> to late.
[09:00] <RealisticDragon> but it doesnt make a lot of difference really
[09:01] <genii> LBB2 that is my point. If we change the partition type to lvm   you will still be able to mount it as before etc etc.
[09:02] <genii> LBB2 Just that the lvm device driver will now see it as something to use in building a larger device as well (hopefully)
[09:02] <LBB2> genii i can mount it now as an ext2, so when i change it to lvm i wont be able to mount it right? confused:)
[09:03] <LBB2> genii not saying i know better though, just avoiding miscommunication:)
[09:03] <hazardx> FINALLY, I HAVE WORD SOMEONE REMEMBERED I EXSIST!
[09:03] <hazardx> (sorry about the yelling)
[09:04] <genii> LBB2 No matter what partition type is changed into, the actual partition itself will always be formatted with ext2 file system. so you will always be able to mount the thing by telling the mount command to understand the fs on it by  -t ext2 when you mount it
[09:04] <darkkish_> i hope installaing xubuntu won't screw up the look of my kde like gnome did
[09:04] <darkkish_> installing ugly programs to the menus
[09:05] <genii> freebsd has a similar raid thing called vinum which is a pain as much as this lvm stuff :)
[09:05] <hazardx> do you decide what to install based onthe same criteria as Xenos?
[09:05] <LBB2> genii ok i still dont understand why i should set it to lvm, but i will do so anyway
[09:05] <LBB2> geni brb
[09:05] <hazardx> (that being how pretty the icon is)
[09:05] <genii> LBB2 OK :)
[09:08] <darkkish_> lmfao hazardx
[09:09] <g-henna> hm, ok, installed xine, that works...
[09:09] <g-henna> bye then
[09:09] <CSonicGo> anyone know why wine can't play Fury3 anymore? :(
[09:09] <genii> LBB2 Ratinale for changing to lvm type: Some device drivers which use partitions like aid driver and lvm driver look at the oartition type to see if they should use this disk as part of their routine or not.
[09:09] <genii> raid driver not aid driver ...tired
[09:10] <LBB2> genii "Changed system type of partition 2 to 8e (Linux LVM)"
[09:10] <genii> LBB2 OK good :) Now need reboot to see if grub progresses etc
[09:11] <Triple> Hey all, i have a question about hard drive speed. When i copy a large file from 1 HD to another the transfer rate is about 1.3 MB/sec for ATA 100 drives..... Is this a normal speed???
[09:11] <LBB2> genii you sure i'm not suppused to set hda5 instead of hda2? still confused...
[09:11] <_kuja_> Triple: that sounds excrutiatingly slow
[09:11] <Triple> Then it is not just me :)
[09:12] <Triple> Any idea where i can look to make it better>
[09:12] <Triple> ?
[09:12] <_kuja_> possibly hdparm
[09:12] <genii> LBB2 Suppose you have /dev/lvm-thing  device.   if hda2 and hda5 are  lvm partition, you get  /dev/lvm-device/hda2   /dev/lvm-device/hda5    which is 2 small devices put together to make 1 large device
[09:12] <_kuja_> run hdparm -i /dev/<thedrivesdevicenode>
[09:12] <idawood> Hello every one
[09:13] <_kuja_> Triple: that will tell you if dma is enabled, maybe it isn't
[09:13] <_kuja_> hello idawood
[09:13] <Triple> Ok, lets see what it brings
[09:13] <idawood> _kuja: can you tell me how I can change my default file manager
[09:13] <hazardx> yay! ride is here (in ~2minutes)
[09:13] <hazardx> later all
[09:13] <idawood> I want to use dolphin as default but also want to keep konqueror
[09:14] <_kuja_> erm, can't recall how it's done, I can look it up though I suppose
[09:14] <hazardx> poor dolphins
[09:14] <LBB2> genii I'm off to reboot, maybe you can point me to a site with some more explanation when i'm back
[09:14] <genii> LBB2 OK see you when you return
[09:15] <hazardx> Bye bye!
[09:15] <idawood> anybody esle can help?
[09:15] <Fragrag> How do I run a .py file? I have Python installed
[09:16] <Fragrag> Wait idawood, I recall reading something about making something default, let me look it up
[09:16] <_kuja_> fragwood: python filename.py
[09:16] <Lastkey0> ok sure take the whole time in the world :P
[09:16] <darkkish_> restarting x
[09:17] <darkkish_> ...
[09:17] <darkkish_> ctrl alt bckspce isn't working lol
[09:17] <_kuja_> or wait, fargrag
[09:17] <darkkish_> oh its not alt
[09:17] <_kuja_> darn
[09:17] <_kuja_> where did that come from?
[09:17] <Triple> DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
[09:17] <Triple>  * signifies the current active mode
[09:17] <Triple> This meand DMA is not active right?
[09:17] <max_> can someone link me to the site that has the official ubuntu/kubuntu artwork?
[09:18] <Lastkey0> try www.kde-look.org
[09:18] <Lastkey0> and art.gnome.org
[09:18] <_kuja_> Triple: that is likely, run hdparm -d /dev/hd? to see the dma status of your drives, use -d1 to turn it on, use -d0 to turn it off
[09:19] <Triple> ok....
[09:19] <_kuja_> idawood: this looks like it might do it - http://www.linuxactionshow.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=181
[09:19] <Triple> i'll be back with results :)
[09:20] <_kuja_> Triple: before doing so, run hdparm -tT /dev/hd? to benchmark performance, then do it after if you want measurable results
[09:20] <Lastkey0> kuja:let me check
[09:20] <Triple> ok
[09:22] <rohan> the volume control keys in my laptop dont control amarok volume
[09:22] <rohan> known problem ?
[09:23] <Triple> martijn@nemesis:~$ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[09:23] <_kuja_> rohan, do they control system volume, by chance?
[09:23] <Triple> /dev/hda:
[09:23] <Triple>  Timing cached reads:   736 MB in  2.06 seconds = 357.95 MB/sec
[09:23] <Triple>  Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.08 seconds =   2.59 MB/sec
[09:23] <Triple> /dev/hda:
[09:23] <Triple>  Timing cached reads:   1336 MB in  2.00 seconds = 667.96 MB/sec
[09:23] <Triple>  Timing buffered disk reads:   70 MB in  3.00 seconds =  23.30 MB/sec
[09:23] <Triple> martijn@nemesis:~$
[09:23] <matthew_> genii, hey, can't believel you're still here...I just woke up....lol
[09:23] <kkathman> rohan:  amarok has its own
[09:23] <Triple> WHOA!!
[09:23] <Triple> better!!
[09:23] <rohan> kkathman: ouch, it does not 'obey' kmix ?
[09:24] <genii> matthew I'm helping LBB with grub still :)
[09:24] <_kuja_> Triple: better, but still slow :P
[09:24] <kkathman> on my keyb  its like the "windows" key + the minus (volume down), the plus (volume up), M (mute) etc
[09:24] <_kuja_> Triple: that change is NOT permanent, you still have a little work to be doing
[09:24] <kkathman> rohan:  no it doesnt
[09:24] <genii> matthew_ But I may soon have to sleep
[09:24] <kkathman> but you can configure your own using the system settings
[09:25] <Triple> Do i have to put the commands in a startupscript somewhere?
[09:25] <malik__> can some one suggest if koffice is better than open office?
[09:25] <_kuja_> Triple: you have to put something /etc/hdparm.conf
[09:25] <Darkkish> xubuntu is pretty nice on my laptop
[09:25] <kkathman> rohan:  kcontrol->Regional&Accessibilty->Keyboard shortcuts
[09:26] <kkathman> malik__:  its different
[09:26] <malik__> and what if i remove open office from edgy kubuntu n install koffice...........would it wreck the system or relatively should be okie>?
[09:26] <kkathman> thats all I can say.  Koffice is a bit less mature than open office
[09:26] <matthew_> genii, you are one tenacious son of a gun!
[09:26] <Triple> ok, have it open
[09:27] <genii> matthew_ :) I love a good puzzle
[09:27] <kkathman> you can remove open office just fine...but try both before you make that decision
[09:27] <_kuja_> something like:
[09:27] <_kuja_> /dev/hda {
[09:27] <_kuja_>         dma = on
[09:27] <_kuja_> }
[09:27] <_kuja_> spacing must be pretty exact, use tabs for the big gap on the dma = on line, there must be a space before the brace. Keep it exact or expect misbehavior
[09:27] <xenol> karmikaze how can i compress? in konsole with compress?
[09:27] <rohan> thanks, kkathman
[09:28] <kkathman> np
[09:28] <malik__> kkathman: that means i wud stick with open office ..............but would you any tweak about turning off the updates for open office?
[09:28] <Darkkish> lol open office has big ass buttons
[09:29] <kkathman> malik__:  well none other that I get from adept I reckon
[09:29] <matthew_> genii, lol, that's why _I'm_ using KDE
[09:29] <kkathman> Koffice has a nice graphical editor called Krita that might be worth taking a look at, tho...but as for the rest of the suite, I like OO personall
[09:29] <LBB> genii It worked! thanks, now i only need to make sure i boot to the menu.lst instead of the grub> prompt and then i can go fix my original problem, wich is a broken mysql package (you said you loved a saga :) ).
[09:30] <malik__> kkathman: that means i ll have to download that 70 odd mb worth of updates they released today:)
[09:30] <kkathman> yah I did that last night
[09:30] <genii> LBB Cool cool :)
[09:30] <kkathman> adept will let you know as long as you have those repos
[09:30] <malik__> doesnt that sux.........i mean i just updated it abt two wks ago with same amount of data
[09:30] <Lastkey0> NO luck :(
[09:31] <genii> LBB So you are not on livecd nut original system now?
[09:32] <genii> but not nut LOL
[09:33] <LBB> genii no, after manually typing part of my menu.lst into grub> the system halted on the line where it needs mysql (i broke that when i deinstalled apache because i needed space on my home)
[09:33] <LBB> genii i mean space on my /boot
[09:33] <genii> LBB Ah, OK ... i would try to help but I need sleep now :)
[09:33] <malik__> okie one more question......................frostwire is better or amule/edonkey?
[09:34] <matthew_> malik__, I prefer azureus
[09:34] <malik__> i have ktorrent
[09:34] <LBB> genii: well thanks very much for your help so far and sleep well!
[09:34] <malik__> isnt azureus a torrent client?
[09:34] <Darkkish> l
[09:34] <genii> I still like original bittorrent    azureus is nice but because totally in java can be a hog
[09:34] <matthew_> malik__, yes
[09:34] <Darkkish> azureus is the best
[09:35] <fdoving> genii: did you try rtorrent?
[09:35] <Darkkish> i love it
[09:35] <Darkkish> second best is utorent
[09:35] <genii> fdoving No, not yet
[09:35] <Darkkish> which i think may have just developed a linux port
[09:35] <malik__> so basically we need bunch of torrent sites then to make it work , be it ktorrent or azureus?
[09:35] <karmikaze> who blang?
[09:35] <fdoving> genii: it's a nice console based thing. i use it to seed the ubuntu cd and dvd images :)
[09:35] <karmikaze> compress
[09:35] <matthew_> malik__, naw, I like torrentspy.com or thepiratebay.corg
[09:35] <matthew_> .org
[09:36] <karmikaze> xenol is gone
[09:36] <Lastkey0> Can anybody help me how to change my default file manager in Kubuntu
[09:36] <karmikaze> hrm
[09:36] <genii> fdoving cool, I'll check it out sometime
[09:36] <malik__> matthew: both of those are in ktorrent version in my distro
[09:36] <genii> LBB Unless you need me for something immediate I need to sleep :)
[09:36] <Triple> Ok! i copy at 8MB/sec now :) better ;) are there more tweaks for the HD?
[09:37] <malik__> n i found ktorrent operation faster than any other client, atleast as compared to windows..........in terms of loading n navigating
[09:38] <malik__> speed ofcourse is totally another issue
[09:38] <LBB> genii: Like I said: thanks very much for your help so far and sleep well! I'll figure it out somehow:)
[09:38] <genii> matthew_ , LBB et al  Have a good one and seeya later
[09:38] <fdoving> nite genii.
[09:38] <pulla_prince> join #acro
[09:38] <CSonicGo> oh wonerful, deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main doesn't work, the site is down! :(
[09:38] <matthew_> you too genii...oh, too late
[09:39] <CSonicGo> now I'm stuck :(
[09:39] <Conor> hello
[09:39] <Conor> matthew_: are yu availible to help?
[09:39] <fdoving> !ask
[09:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:39] <karmikaze> how do you install flash to konqueror?
[09:40] <rohan> how does x.org know what to use ? "Configured Mouse" or "Touchpad" ?
[09:40] <rohan> how does x.org know what to use ? "Configured Mouse" or "Touchpad" ?
[09:40] <rohan> oops, sorry
[09:40] <malik__> flash-nonfree install that package
[09:40] <matthew_> Conor, nope, I'm leaving right now...my gf wants to go to the park.
[09:40] <karmikaze> cheerrs malik__
[09:40] <Conor> is there someone here who can help me?
[09:40] <fdoving> !ask | conor
[09:40] <ubotu> conor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:41] <Conor> haha
[09:41] <uber_mort> I'm glad ubotu allows piping :P
[09:41] <karmikaze> and redirection ;D
[09:41] <uber_mort> really?
[09:42] <Conor> the reason why I ask is because Im about to install kubuntu on a rather troublesome computer, and if something goes wrong, id like to have help
[09:42] <karmikaze> yeah i always used stuff like !flash >> karmikaze
[09:42] <uber_mort> !ask >> uber_mort
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <uber_mort> nice :)
[09:42] <murchadh_bhaba> Conor, Troublesome?
[09:42] <uber_mort> conor: I'm sure someone will be able to help you
[09:43] <malik__> Conor: what kinda comp is that?//
[09:43] <Conor> well, its a good computer, fairly new, but the was some trouble related to we think the graphics card
[09:43] <CSonicGo> !wine
[09:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:43] <malik__> Conor: nvidia?
[09:44] <Conor> we had to pass the line "acpi=off noapic nolapic" to get it to run the liveCD
[09:44] <Conor> no, ati
[09:44] <uber_mort> conor: laptop or desktop?
[09:44] <Conor> actually, it might have been processor: a dual core
[09:44] <Conor> laptop
[09:45] <uber_mort> laptop displays are odd, I have to run in some funky modes to get the live CD booted too, but once installed things generally work fine
[09:45] <Tesla> hello, ppl. i got a question. does anyone got a problem with konqueror frequent fails with segmentation on visiting pages?
[09:45] <malik__> Hmmm..........okie well try ur hand on it, see what happens n by that time hopefully Admiral_chicago or Jucato or some of the more exp guyz will be here
[09:45] <wildchild> hello trehe... I bought a new cooler for my CPU, and graphic card, and now I wanna see temepratures of those on screen ->is any program t oshow this?
[09:46] <Conor> okay, thanks uber_mort
[09:46] <uber_mort> wildchild there are system monitors though I can't remember the name...  I think its lmsensors or something like that
[09:46] <Tesla> wildchild, try gkrellm package
[09:46] <uber_mort> no conor, and if you have problems I should be around for a while at least
[09:47] <Tesla> so, does anyone have troubles with konqeror like me?
[09:47] <uber_mort> tesla I can't say that I do, but what do you mean "by on segmentation"
[09:47] <uber_mort> do you mean that it gives you a segmentation fault?  Thats a fun error to deal with ;D
[09:47] <malik__> Tesla: segmentation?
[09:47] <Lastkey0> Tesla: What kind of trouble
[09:48] <malik__> !segmentation
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about segmentation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <moody_> #ubuntu-pl
[09:48] <Tesla> uber_mort, konqeror crashes displaying SIGSEGV on some pages
[09:48] <Tesla> i'm using fresh default install of Kubuntu 6.10
[09:49] <Tesla> i586 arch. not overclocked
[09:49] <Tesla> for example it crashes on www.kaniv.net
[09:50] <uber_mort> Telsa: Though I may be wrong, but I think thats a segmentation fault, and generally means that you tried to reference a bad memory location (maybe paged out or something).  How much ram is in that beast?
[09:50] <prophit_inc> can anyone here recommend a program that will take snapshots at random from my camera?
[09:50] <prophit_inc> for windows please....the guys in windows have no clue
[09:50] <uber_mort> prophit_inc: Picasa
[09:50] <prophit_inc> ok thank you
[09:50] <uber_mort> prophit_inc: do you mean automatically use it like a webcam or take them off?
[09:50] <Tesla> i got 320 MB of DIMM SDRAM PC100. memtest shown so problem and it worked perfect under MS Windows.
[09:50] <uber_mort> whoops, oh well
[09:51] <uber_mort> Do cyrillic fonts work fine in other places?
[09:51] <CSonicGo> rofl my dad is mad that his windows xp box has spyware all over it despite 4 anti-spyware programs
[09:51] <CSonicGo> :(
[09:51] <Tesla> uber_mort, cyrillic fonts?
[09:51] <CSonicGo> it's sad really.
[09:51] <malik__> Tesla: working okie in my konqi
[09:51] <uber_mort> Tesla: Russian, etc
[09:52] <uber_mort> Tesla: That site is in russian, no?
[09:52] <Tesla> i'm russian myself. yes. its all fine with russian here
[09:52] <Tesla> not really. its in ukrainian. but its alike.
[09:52] <uber_mort> Tesla: Hehe, I just saw the letters.  I took a bit of russian but don't remember much of it at all ;)
[09:53] <Tesla> uber_mort, my konqueror loads and displays page almost entirely. and than just disapears and KDE crash handler apears
[09:53] <uber_mort> Tesla: But anyway, if you haven't really installed anything or taken any time to customize and it wouldn't be a problem to reformat I might suggest you reinstall.
[09:54] <Tesla> btw. i tryed installing my Kubuntu 6.10 on VMWare. the same problem exactly. and all the hardware is emulated there. how can this happens?
[09:54] <Lastkey0> Tesla:Update your distro
[09:54] <CSonicGo> russian, isn't all cryllic languages the same? or, very very similar?
[09:54] <Lastkey0> hopefully the update will correct your problem
[09:55] <uber_mort> Tesla: Well, often times the error you're getting is caused when things are swapped out of memory and are then later referenced.  If you have too little RAM this could be a problem, or it could be something on that page that causes it.  Might I suggest trying a different browser to see if that works?
[09:55] <Tesla> uber_mort, as i said before i have a fresh install. and i did reinstalling many times already :-(
[09:55] <Tesla> CSonicGo, very similar. if you know russian it will be easy to learn any other cirylic one
[09:55] <uber_mort> Try apt-getting firefox and check if it works in there.  If so we can take it from there, though I don't know if I can help :(
[09:55] <Lastkey0> try adept manager or apt-get upgrade to update the system
[09:56] <CSonicGo> oh ok
[09:56] <CSonicGo> I'm just french-english so it'll take some effort to learn russian but I've been wanting to for years
[09:57] <uber_mort> I started, but my teacher was a bitch so I dropped it for gaelic :P
[09:57] <uber_mort> but now I can talk like the irishman I am
[09:57] <uber_mort> so its all good :D
[09:57] <Tesla> uber_mort, as i said i got 320 MB of perfectly working RAM and i have a 200 MB of swapping partition. FireFox does not work at all. it crashes with segmentation fault just on the startup
[09:57] <CSonicGo> I can fake scots
[09:57] <CSonicGo> heheh
[09:57] <icheyne> I installed a the 386 kernel, to use beryl, and now I do not need it any more. How do I remove it so that it does not show up on my grub boot list?
[09:57] <uber_mort> but can you actually speak gaelic?
[09:57] <CSonicGo> no :(
[09:58] <uber_mort> tesla: That could be it right there.  It might be the small swap space.  Is there any chance you could expand that to like 512 or even a gb?
[09:58] <CSonicGo> is it similar to latin? I've heard it is.
[09:58] <Lastkey0> Tesla: I said update your system. If you don't want to do that and just want to try another browser, you can try swiftfox
[09:58] <uber_mort> I don't think so
[09:58] <uber_mort> I can write some stuff if you'd like
[09:59] <CSonicGo> ya I'd liek to "See" this language heh
[09:59] <Lastkey0> swiftfox is based on firfox but opitimized for diffrent processor architectures
[09:59] <Tesla> sure i can do it. just need to reinstall. however top command shows that swap is not used at all. used 0 bytes. :-/
[09:59] <uber_mort> je parle un peu francais, mais gaeilge ne pas "similar"
[09:59] <Lastkey0> icheyne:you cantry apt-remove beryl
[09:59] <CSonicGo> aah
[09:59] <icheyne> thanks Lastkey0 but I already did that
[09:59] <uber_mort> Irish: Dia dhuit, is mise Brian, agus d'ol me uisce beatha :)
[10:00] <CSonicGo> awesome
[10:00] <uber_mort> Or in other words, Hi, my name is Brian and I drank whiskey :P
[10:00] <Tesla> and the bad thing is that is too expencive for me to fully upgrage from inet. i pay for amount of transfered data.
[10:01] <CSonicGo> haha
[10:01] <CSonicGo> awesome
[10:01] <CSonicGo> I wonder what english (anglisc lol) will look like in 500 years
[10:01] <CSonicGo> most say "about the same"
[10:01] <Tesla> uber_mort, i also had tyed Opera. downloaded a .deb file form their official site specially designed for Edgy
[10:02] <CSonicGo> since that printing press and all
[10:02] <faLUCE> Hi. is there an unofficial repo with mplayer1.x ?
[10:02] <Tesla> opera behaves the same way as konqeror
[10:02] <Nontitle> look at how much english has changed in 20 years
[10:02] <uber_mort> Tesla: That could be the whole memory issue, thats why I suggest the swap space
[10:02] <Nontitle> if konqueror worked with the gecko engine, then i would be happy
[10:02] <hazard_> English has changed? (I realize i'm speaking russian)
[10:02] <CSonicGo> Nontitle: good point
[10:02] <Lastkey0> Icheyne: you can edit grub file to not to show the beryl if you just don't want to see it in the list
[10:02] <uber_mort> Tesla: Opera and firefox have larger memory footprints than konqueror and could be why they crash almost right off the bat
[10:03] <karmikaze> i cant view the dominos menu in konqueror :'(
[10:03] <icheyne> oh yes? But it regenerates automatically?
[10:03] <CSonicGo> hazard_: supposedly, but you never ever NOTICE
[10:03] <hazard_> oh, right, forgot about that.
[10:03] <icheyne> Lastkey0, oh yes? But it regenerates automatically?
[10:03] <CSonicGo> but looking at stuff from the 1800s you can see
[10:03] <CSonicGo> you can see a big "Difference" it's really weird
[10:03] <Tesla> uber_mort, in fact opera starts good for me. and i'm able to run firefox with -ProfileManager swich so i got a window from it. but no more
[10:04] <hazard_> karmikaze: get that wireless working?
[10:04] <karmikaze> nah hazard_ it doesnt like my router or something
[10:04] <karmikaze> if i change to wep, or wpa or open
[10:04] <karmikaze> wont connect
[10:04] <uber_mort> Tesla: Hmmmm again that goes to support my theorey...  when pages are rendered they start eating memory, and without enough swap space you're gonna have problems
[10:04] <hazard_> Toldta, that Montana guy strikes again!
[10:05] <uber_mort> CSonicGo: Tu parle francais?
[10:05] <Tesla> uber_mort, i do not doubt that you want to help me, thank you. but swap area is absolutly not in use when i just booted and started konqeror. do you really think its all about small swap?
[10:05] <Lastkey0> I don't think so it will be regenerated again
[10:05] <Lastkey0> I just have the the idea, I can't tell you the method to edit it
[10:05] <Lastkey0> you can check on google or other linux forums for the help on grub editing
[10:06] <icheyne> does anyone know if I can remove a kernel from the /boot menu so it does not automatically regenerate with grub?
[10:06] <icheyne> thanks Lastkey0 I am reading the wiki now
[10:06] <uber_mort> Tesla: Thats the only thing that I can think of honestly.  Other than some problem with hardware, but you said the memtest worked.  I highly doubt that its problems with the programs...  maybe its a page swapping algorithm problem?  Maybe your TLB has a problem with it?
[10:07] <Lastkey0> icheyne: try this "more /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:07] <uber_mort> Tesla: If your TLB was broken though you'd probably have more problems than just browsers
[10:07] <Conor> hey, I think I got it!
[10:07] <Tesla> uber_mort, however i thik i'll try to reinstall my system with making swap 1GB. if everything will be fine i'll be back in a half an hour
[10:07] <Lastkey0> you can use vi editor, gedit or kate to edit
[10:07] <Lastkey0> but be very careful while editing
[10:07] <uber_mort> Tesla: I'll be here, good luck
[10:07] <icheyne> thanks Lastkey0 it doesn't answer my last question though
[10:07] <Tesla> uber_mort, can you explain what is a TLB please?
[10:08] <icheyne> Lastkey0, if I can remove the kernel from /boot that might save me the aggro
[10:08] <darkkish_> i'm making counterstrike maps
[10:08] <darkkish_> fun fujn
[10:08] <uber_mort> Tesla: Translation look aside buffer.  It translates virtual memory, and if it were broken you'd get errors like you're getting, though you'd be getting them with EVERYTHING and probably wouldn't even be able to boot/run for more than a few minutes
[10:08] <Lastkey0> I'm not sure but may be there could be some disastrous results with removing the kernel
[10:09] <uber_mort> Tesla: Translates virtual memory addresses to physical mem addresses rather.
[10:09] <Lastkey0> If you are booting with someother kernel there won't be any problem with the kernel you want to remove
[10:09] <icheyne> Lastkey0, I have two in there. I just wanted to move one that I did nto need and regenerate my grub menu
[10:09] <Lastkey0> just edit the grub to not to see it in the list
[10:09] <lorenzo_r> ciao a tutti
[10:09] <icheyne> aha thanks Lastkey0
[10:09] <LjL> !it | lorenzo_r
[10:09] <ubotu> lorenzo_r: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:09] <lorenzo_r> sorry
[10:10] <lorenzo_r> ok thanks
[10:10] <Tesla> uber_mort, i dont think i have TBL broken. everything exept browsers runs perfect and stable for several day a row.
[10:10] <uber_mort> Tesla: Yah, I couldn't imagine the TLB breaking and still letting you run anything at all.  So like I said, swap space is the only thing I can think of.  If things don't work after the resize then maybe someone else will have a better idea.
[10:11] <Tesla> uber_mort, in fact the only browser works good for me is Dillo. i'm forced to use it to surf ubuntu forums. btw that didnt solved my problem :-(
[10:11] <uber_mort> Tesla: You increased swap space already?
[10:12] <Tesla> uber_mort, no, i'm still here in my kubunto. i have to reboot at least :-) so, i'm gone for reinstall. thank you so much.
[10:12] <uber_mort> Tesla: Dillo is small: source is less than 420 KB, and the binary is around  350 KB!
[10:12] <uber_mort> Tesla: Again, supports my theorey
[10:12] <uber_mort> ok guys moving places, be back in a bit, you stay classy #Kubuntu
[10:13] <cloakable> uber_mort: And you can enable tabs in the Ubuntu source code :)
[10:14] <uber_mort> ??  Enable tabs?
[10:14] <uber_mort> be back
[10:16] <Conor> hey, whats the easiest way to install, say firefox, on my new kubuntu install
[10:16] <lupine_85> Conor: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:16] <lupine_85> terminal is faster than GUI :p
[10:17] <Conor> haha
[10:17] <lupine_85> If you want GUI, though, Adept is the package manager
[10:17] <Conor> lupine_85: Apparently adept is doing a lot of updating right now
[10:17] <lupine_85> but you have to wait for it to load up information about /all/ the packages before you can install one
[10:17] <thev> anyone know why when I set up the Nvidia driver xorg works fine until I reboot, and then I have to reinstall and start xorg manually?
[10:18] <karmikaze> im having nvidia trouble too
[10:18] <karmikaze> the sudo enable never works for me
[10:18] <darkkish_> xubuntu is fine but i think KDE is pretty nice
[10:18] <lupine_85> thev: howe did you install the driver?
[10:18] <karmikaze> says to check if i have nvidia-kernel which i do
[10:19] <thev> lupine_85 - downloaded it from nvidia
[10:19] <lupine_85> karmikaze: you could just edit xorg.conf manually
[10:19] <lupine_85> it's a straight "nv" -> "nvidia" change
[10:19] <thev> sh nvidia.run and it builds and installs it
[10:19] <lupine_85> thev: the drivers in linux-restricted-modules conflict with it
[10:19] <lupine_85> which version do you have installed? 9631? 9742?
[10:19] <karmikaze> ive got
[10:19] <thev> uhh... newest from nvidia
[10:20] <karmikaze> 2.6.17-19-generic
[10:20] <thev> lupine_85 perhaps I can just unistall all the other drivers?
[10:20] <lupine_85> they've got two newest: newest stable and newest beta :p
[10:20] <thev> stable
[10:20] <lupine_85> thev: you could do. Better would be to install the latest from an unofficial repo
[10:20] <karmikaze> is there a repo for that?
[10:20] <lupine_85> yeah
[10:20] <lupine_85> see http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/
[10:20] <karmikaze> cheers
[10:20] <lupine_85> np :)
[10:20] <thev> thanks lupine
[10:21] <lupine_85> uninstall the manual one first, though
[10:21] <lupine_85> the installer takes a --uninstall flag that will do the trick
[10:21] <karmikaze> ok thanks
[10:22] <Conor> if Im still waiting for adept to update, can I use apt-get to install something, or do I have to wait for adept to update?
[10:22] <CSonicGo> augh stupid router
[10:22] <Conor> are adept and apt-get different?
[10:22] <karmikaze> no Conor
[10:22] <karmikaze> you have to wait
[10:22] <lupine_85> you can only run one package manager at a time
[10:23] <Conor> oh
[10:26] <darkkish_> mythbusters
[10:26] <darkkish_> oooo
[10:26] <darkkish_> lol
[10:26] <faLUCE> Hi. is there an unofficial repo with mplayer1.x ?
[10:27] <RealisticDragon> an old version? you might be able to get it out of ubuntu 5.something repositories
[10:27] <RealisticDragon> im not sure if itll work on edgy because of the dependancies though
[10:27] <RealisticDragon> or is it a new version :o
[10:28] <RealisticDragon> too many packages to keep track of :P
[10:28] <lupine_85> 1.x is new I think :)
[10:28] <Imrahil> which kde applications have names which are spelled correctly in German? Konsole I know for sure, but I thought there were others
[10:28] <RealisticDragon> they should make everyone use ubuntus version system :D
[10:28] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse
[10:29] <biza> How can i exit the X server and work completely in console mode ??
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: you can google for the debian ones
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: they have a habbit of shifting around
[10:31] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: it's not the 1.x version and it gives me a "break" msg in adept
[10:31] <RealisticDragon> biza: press ctrl alt f1 (ctrl alt f7 will get you back)
[10:31] <biza> thanks!
[10:31] <RealisticDragon> if you want to totally quit it then log out, you can quit X from the menu there
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: aah could mean you have an old version of kaffeine or something
[10:32] <RealisticDragon> or you can start/stop X on the command line with /etc/init.d/x1-common
[10:32] <RealisticDragon> :)
[10:32] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: what I have to do?
[10:32] <RealisticDragon> brb
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: our your sources list is mixing ubuntu versions
[10:32] <julian__> hi
[10:32] <julian__> newbie braucht hilfe ;)
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: I cant say Im not in front of your machine
[10:32] <julian__> wer will mir helfen
[10:33] <julian__> hilfe?!
[10:33] <sean> hm
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: check your sources and make sure they are not mixed up
[10:33] <LjL> !de | julian__
[10:33] <ubotu> julian__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: I have no issues with mplayer installs
[10:34] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: do you mean compiled source codes?
[10:34] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: do you mean compiled (by me) source codes?
[10:34] <sean> trying to figure out how to make a partition so i can keep all my files and stuff on one partition, and the os on the other, so that when i update it only removes the os partition and not the one with my files on.
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: no I just grab the mplayer package that setup for my version of ubuntu
[10:35] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: when you say: check your sources.... what do you mean?
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: if your getting "break" it means you either havent updated properly or you have mixed sources
[10:35] <faLUCE> source codes compiled by me?
[10:35] <tim__> anyone know how to get ktorrent scheduler working? i loaded it but doesnt stop torrents.
[10:35] <sean> anyone know how?
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: sources.list  is a file that contains were your system gets all it packages
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: you can access it from within the adept package manager
[10:36] <faLUCE> Ah, I see
[10:36] <faLUCE> I'm seeing it
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: you can add and remove and update the sources list from within adept
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: judt be aware of what servers your adding because they may cause breaks
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> just*
[10:38] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: do you think it's the best way, since if I remove repos from the sources, and I start with one repo, I can see the broken relations?
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: well what I do is use the official repo's (see ubuntu online details) that way i never have these issues
[10:38] <faLUCE> I see
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> repo = package repository (server)
[10:39] <Triple> Ive been trying some options in hdparm to speed up my hard drives, (Ultra ATA 133) but i cant get it past  Timing cached reads:   1488 MB in  2.00 seconds = 743.95 MB/sec
[10:39] <Triple>  Timing buffered disk reads:   88 MB in  3.08 seconds =  28.57 MB/sec
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: mplayer is on the ubuntu servers
[10:39] <Triple> Anybody have an idea to speed it up?
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: you may have to use a debian server to get some of the codecs
[10:40] <joost> Konversation is messed up
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: for legal reason
[10:40] <joost> (on ubuntu edgy)
[10:40] <lupine_85> joost: using it here and it works fine
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> joost: works fine here
[10:41] <joost> the server list window stays open, and its buttons are missing
[10:41] <RealisticDragon> hm which port does apt use by default? anyone know?
[10:41] <Linux_Galore> joost: remove and reainstall the package
[10:41] <RealisticDragon> im being throttled to 3kb/sec which is no fun
[10:41] <lupine_85> RealisticDragon: none by default
[10:41] <joost> ill do
[10:41] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: i have removed all the repos from my list and leaved only deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse. but when i try to install mplayer it says "broke" again
[10:42] <joost> other thing id like to mention is mounting smbfs drives
[10:42] <RealisticDragon> lupine_85: apt must use some port to get data :o
[10:42] <lupine_85> it uses a random high port like any other HTTP/FTP client
[10:42] <joost> there is a bug causing HAL to crash
[10:42] <lupine_85> it connects to 23/80 depending on the service running on the remote server
[10:42] <RealisticDragon> http uses 80 by default, no? got your point about ftp though
[10:42] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: as I said Im not on your machine so i cant back trace were its broken
[10:42] <joost> i got the workaround allright, but the bug is in there al long time]
[10:42] <fdoving> RealisticDragon: 80, yes.
[10:42] <joost> i noticed feisty still having it
[10:43] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: also you dont have to remove evrything because just having one repo wont allow you to install mplayer anyway
[10:43] <WooD> Hi ! I have reinstall Ubuntu and lost all addons for Firefox.... and now I need a emulator of Internet explorer into firefox any of you know which addon do this ? I cant remember the one I had
[10:43] <joost> smbfs -> noauto
[10:43] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: the mplayer stuff is spread out a bit
[10:43] <faLUCE> i see
[10:43] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: thanks anyway
[10:43] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: mplayer isnt a single all in one package
[10:44] <kkathman> WooD:   I remember there are several, but dont remember the names - Google should help tho
[10:44] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: for suse it is
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: no not even on suse
[10:44] <faLUCE> but for suse there's the 1.x version....
[10:44] <snook353> what do i use to move data from one desktop to my laptop?
[10:44] <faLUCE> i can't find it for kubuntu
[10:45] <RealisticDragon> WooD: you want an IE skin?
[10:45] <kkathman> yeah there is for SUSE but only in the backports I believe
[10:45] <RealisticDragon> WooD: or something that emulates quirks mode?
[10:45] <kkathman> why do you want the back version
[10:45] <lenscape_> I'm getting "Permission denied" trying to access nfs shares when I don't think I should. Server is Kubuntu. Client is Suse
[10:45] <snook353> windows98 to kubuntu
[10:45] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: there is a package on suse called mplayer but when you trigger it to install it will also download about another 9 packages
[10:45] <RealisticDragon> snook353: i like fish:// for KDE/konqueror :)
[10:45] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: i know this
[10:45] <RealisticDragon> or, w98 :o
[10:45] <faLUCE> but I want to do the same for
[10:45] <snook353> thanks, realisticdragon
[10:45] <lupine_85> fish:// ++
[10:45] <faLUCE> kubuntu:)
[10:45] <faLUCE> and I can't!
[10:45] <RealisticDragon> snook353: fish is for linux to linux
[10:45] <kkathman> no need for mplayer on kubuntu or SUSE tho
[10:46] <snook353> oh :(
[10:46] <max_> does anyone know when KDE4 is going to be released?
[10:46] <kkathman> use kaffeine
[10:46] <Nontitle> i don't really like fish://, it's the same as ssh and sftp, but it adds an unneeded file
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: yes but you have a broken dep problem, basically you have to remove something
[10:46] <snook353> ah
[10:46] <lupine_85> RealisticDragon: there is a program that lets you bind ssh to drives in windows
[10:46] <RealisticDragon> WooD: http://themes.mozdev.org/themes/ie.html is this what you want?
[10:46] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: do you mean some installed package?
[10:46] <lupine_85> forget what it's called though
[10:46] <RealisticDragon> nifty lupine_85:)
[10:46] <kkathman> if you need mplayer for your browser, install the mplayerplug-in instead
[10:46] <lupine_85> sftpdrive or something
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: if you look at the mplayer packafe details in adept it should show you what dependencies it has
[10:47] <kkathman> it doesnt install a bunch of dependencies
[10:47] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: i can see the broken dependencies but
[10:47] <faLUCE> what's the next action?
[10:47] <lenscape_> anyone using kubuntu as an nfs server?
[10:48] <lenscape_> other than setting up 'exports' is anything else required?
[10:48] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: Im finding it strange you have a broken dep because there should be none of your using the official repo, I suspect you have a bad update or incomplete
[10:48] <Linux_Galore> if*
[10:48] <kkathman> course that's firefox2 - something weird
[10:48] <max_> kkathman: i have 3.31 and mine works in FF
[10:48] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: let's try an update
[10:49] <kkathman> max_:  go to CNN.com and see if you can see their videos
[10:49] <kkathman> or BBC
[10:49] <max_> k
[10:49] <lenscape_> seems to be a lot broken in kubuntu
[10:49] <kkathman> cuz I cant using 3.31 and FF2
[10:49] <kkathman> I could with FF <IP_ADDRESS> + mplayerplug-in 3.25
[10:49] <max_> i have 3.31 and FF2
[10:49] <max_> SUSE SUCKS
[10:50] <lenscape_> max_ but it works
[10:50] <kkathman> SUSE doesnt suck.. please dont start that :(
[10:50] <max_> lol
[10:50] <kkathman> max_:  can you see the videos there?
[10:50] <max_> its loading now
[10:50] <kkathman> ok
[10:50] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: the update (as well as upgrade) functions of adept don't work
[10:50] <max_> ya i can see um kkathman
[10:50] <lupine_85> SuSE-- :p
[10:50] <kkathman> hmm
[10:50] <Linux_Galore> please not distro wars, just makes us look pathetic
[10:50] <lupine_85> lol
[10:50] <kkathman> max_:  I need your help then :)
[10:50] <lupine_85> OK, ok. Novell-----------------
[10:51] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: have you added all the repo's back
[10:51] <kkathman> mine just bring up the player, then it says "stopped"
[10:51] <lenscape_> does kubuntu need extra set-up to get nfs server working?
[10:51] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: yes
[10:51] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: make sure each repo has the same name ie dapper or edgy
[10:51] <uber_mort> Hey all, back
[10:51] <snook353> if i get a male/male usb cable, do i need any software to move files from windows machine to kubuntu machine?
[10:51] <max_> kkathman: i had that problem, it cleared itself up. but while i had it i right clicked, clicked play, then right clicked and told it full screen
[10:51] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: but not both they should all have the same name
[10:52] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: would you like to see my source.list?
[10:52] <kkathman> max_:  hmm I dont understand it
[10:52] <lupine_85> snook353: everything you need will be in the repos
[10:52] <fdoving> lenscape_: yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html
[10:52] <kkathman> I have installed and reinstalled it
[10:52] <lupine_85> essentially it's a null modem cable
[10:52] <max_> kkathman: i did too
[10:52] <snook353> ok, i'll see what happens
[10:52] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: sure
[10:52] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: thanks
[10:52] <max_> kkathman: it finnally stopped doin it, but see if what i said works
[10:52] <lupine_85> so you'd create a TCP/IP link over it and transfer files as if it were a normal link
[10:52] <faLUCE> would you like it pasted on http://rafb.net/paste/ ?
[10:53] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: doesnt bother me
[10:53] <faLUCE> ok wait a sec
[10:54] <lenscape_> fdoving: Thanks. That was brilliant. All working now.
[10:54] <taikisan> hi
[10:54] <Conor> how do I find out how much space I have left on my hard drive?
[10:55] <lenscape_> Conor: df -h
[10:55] <kkathman> max_:  ok.. now tell me again what you did
[10:55] <taikisan> hi, how can i install the kdelook themes in kubuntu?
[10:55] <Linux_Galore> !pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: http://rafb.net/p/IL5o0w35.html
[10:56] <max_> kkathman:  i right clicked, clicked play, then right clicked and told it full screen
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: you have mixed a sources lis thats why its broken
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> list*
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> your either edy or dapper not both
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> edgy*
[10:56] <faLUCE> ah, I see
[10:57] <faLUCE> let's correct it
[10:57] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: let me give you mine then you will see
[10:57] <xenol> !quanta
[10:57] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB
[10:57] <xenol> !nvu
[10:57] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[10:57] <xenol> for web development wat is better? nvu or quanta?
[10:58] <RealisticDragon> depends what kind xenol, im not really a big fan of that kind of stuff
[10:58] <RealisticDragon> i use drupal + inkscape + vim
[10:58] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: ok
[10:58] <RealisticDragon> but the right tool really depends on the job you want to do
[10:58] <kkathman> max_:  that didnt work
[10:59] <kkathman> max_:  when I look in my settings, the wm* says "windows media player" but other things say "mplayerplugin 3.31"
[10:59] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38280/
[10:59] <kkathman> I need to be able to change those in firefox, but dont know how
[10:59] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: Ive also set it up as a text view so you can just copy the file to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: let's try
[11:01] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: have to update your system, it may take a while because now all the packages are edgy
[11:02] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: some are very new ie koffice
[11:02] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: i changed the source.list but
[11:02] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: if you ntice I have a special entry for koffice and amarok
[11:02] <faLUCE> it still uses the old one
[11:03] <faLUCE> (adept)
[11:03] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: yeah you may have to reboot
[11:03] <faLUCE> I see
[11:03] <faLUCE> lemmi try
[11:03] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: or make adept update
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> hmm I really need to clean up my sources file
[11:05] <faLUCE> well i have to reboot
[11:07] <Conor> is kdevelop a good ide?  How do I install it?
[11:07] <chx> how could I switch off Kopete's sounds? It's VERY, VERY annoying and I found nothing in settings
[11:07] <RealisticDragon> two friends, /exit and /quit sitting in a garden... /exit goes away, who is still there?
[11:07] <bobbyd> Conor: it's ok, it's not as slick as .NET but it's functional
[11:07] <bobbyd> Conor: apt-get install kdevelop3
[11:08] <Conor> that didnt work.
[11:08] <RealisticDragon> if you want something more like .NET then java/eclipse is probably as close as you will get :)
[11:08] <Conor> isnt .net a microsoft product?
[11:08] <bobbyd> Conor: Yes
[11:08] <RealisticDragon> yes it is
[11:08] <Conor> okay
[11:08] <fdoving> chx: system settings -> notifications -> select kopete in the drop-down list. then make your modifications.
[11:08] <bobbyd> Conor: I'm just saying that if you're used to that KDevelop isn't as slick, especially for debugging
[11:09] <bobbyd> Conor: Eclipse is actually pretty good, if a bit fat and slow
[11:09] <Conor> E: Couldnt find package kdevelop3
[11:09] <Conor> hmm...
[11:09] <RealisticDragon> eclipse is for java
[11:09] <Conor> Id like to try both
[11:09] <chx> fdoving: this is somewhat windows-esque, why kopete sounds are not in kopete...?
[11:09] <RealisticDragon> kdevelop is for C/C++
[11:09] <bobbyd> RealisticDragon: it has C++ plugins
[11:09] <Conor> is eclipse writen in java?
[11:09] <RealisticDragon> ah, cool
[11:09] <Conor> oh I see
[11:09] <bobbyd> Conor: yes
[11:09] <fdoving> chx: because knotify handles notifications.
[11:09] <bobbyd> RealisticDragon: eclise has some pretty cool tools
[11:10] <bobbyd> Conor: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[11:10] <Conor> okay.  Does it fold code?  Im a little addicted to that
[11:10] <Conor> 6.10
[11:10] <bobbyd> Conor: Kdevelop does
[11:10] <RealisticDragon> Conor: i use vim for code folding, know exactly what you mean :D
[11:10] <Conor> but eclipse?
[11:10] <fdoving> chx: most applications have a 'Configure notifications..' in their settings menu, though. (it leads to the same settings dialog)
[11:10] <Misfit> I want to partition my HDD, one small partition (10-20gb?) for the OS, and then the other partition being the rest of the space on the HDD, for my apps and stuff. Any ideas/reccommendations?
[11:10] <bobbyd> Conor: it should be there then, you might need to enable all the repositories in adept
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> Conor, another one to consider: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots
[11:11] <bobbyd> Conor: kdevelop and eclipse both do it, as does kde's text editor, KATE
[11:11] <Conor> vim folds code?  that is the most ridiculusly advanced non-gui ever
[11:11] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: nothing done
[11:11] <faLUCE> adept still links an old source list
[11:11] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: I've found Anjunta pretty flaky
[11:11] <chx> fdoving: oh. so we have configure program which has multiple tabs and then we have separate configurations for some other stuff. confusing. but yes, can be learned.
[11:11] <Tesla> uber_mort: i'm here again.
[11:11] <RealisticDragon> theres a eclipse plugin for code folding
[11:11] <uber_mort> Tesla: Aww :(  No go?
[11:11] <faLUCE> I think it's time to reinstall adept
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: means you havent replaces the /etc/apt/sources.list  file
[11:11] <Tesla> uber_mort: unfortunaly it didnt helped
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> replaced*
[11:12] <uber_mort> Tesla: I'm sorry :(  I really don't know what else it could be
[11:12] <lm> hey can anybody tell me, how i would go about doing desktop sharing from my xp machine without vnc (cause i use kde)?
[11:12] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: i've replaced them
[11:12] <fdoving> chx: it's not separate configs. it's just that you can modify stuff from multiple places. like you can have more than one door to a room. etc.
[11:12] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: type  sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <Tesla> uber_mort: BUT i found out an interesting thing. if i disable javascript and java it is stable :-)
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, I have never actually used it, someone suggested it & it looks nice, that's about as much as I know
[11:12] <uber_mort> Tesla: Oh?  Thats quite odd...   I wonder why your system doesn't like javascript.
[11:12] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: already inspected it
[11:12] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: kept crashing on me
[11:13] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: it contains your source
[11:13] <lm> hey anybody
[11:13] <Tesla> yeah, i'm surprised too
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: adept should show the same
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, not good
[11:13] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: I find for real work the integration of the debugger is the thing that kills most linux IDEs
[11:13] <kcinna> has anyone had problems with flac support in amarok?
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: run apt-get update
[11:13] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: mybe some files are corrupted and adept see some garbaged files
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> sudo apt-get update
[11:14] <The_Machine> i start evolution -- icon bounces, and nothing comes up.  Why does KDE hate me?
[11:14] <bobbyd> for instance, kdevelop won't remember the expansions you had last time you ran your code, so you spend a lot of time just clicking on stuff
[11:14] <The_Machine> what can i do to bring it up without having to restart KDE?
[11:14] <bobbyd> The_Machine: alt-space, type konsole, type evolution, hit enter
[11:14] <bobbyd> hit enter after konsole
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, well that is bad news as I am used to a good debugger, having said that VS version 7.1 has gone backwards
[11:15] <The_Machine> wow.
[11:15] <The_Machine> that is so FREAKING cool.
[11:15] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: is that 2005?
[11:15] <The_Machine> (the alt-space thing)
[11:15] <The_Machine> heh
[11:15] <TheDebugger> 7.1 is 2003
[11:15] <TheDebugger> 8.0 is 2005
[11:15] <The_Machine> it isn't doing anything.  Just sitting there.
[11:16] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: I have to reboot again
[11:16] <fdoving> !katapult | the_machine
[11:16] <ubotu> the_machine: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[11:16] <TheDebugger> 2003 and 2005 are really nice, you can see the content of an stdlib container by hovering the var with the cursor
[11:16] <The_Machine> i've been using alt+F2
[11:16] <The_Machine> but alt+space
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, nope 2003, we still need to modify our code so it will compile in 2005
[11:16] <The_Machine> is great :)
[11:16] <The_Machine> bobbyd: next step?
[11:17] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: we're moving to 2K5 after christmas
[11:17] <fdoving> The_Machine: katapult doesn't support commands yet though.. only things already in the menu. that sucks.
[11:17] <bobbyd> The_Machine: when you have a konsole, run evolution but typing "evolution" and hit enter
[11:18] <The_Machine> i did, bobbyd.  It just sits there.  THe cursor just did a CR..
[11:18] <The_Machine> and just a block box..  nothing is happening.
[11:18] <The_Machine> (in the terminal)
[11:18] <bobbyd> maybe it's screwed then :)
[11:18] <The_Machine> haha
[11:18] <The_Machine> this is why i asked :)
[11:18] <bobbyd> do "tail /var/log/syslog"
[11:18] <bobbyd> see if that tells you anything
[11:19] <fdoving> i doubt evolution logs to syslog.
[11:19] <The_Machine> well.  ewl.
[11:19] <Imrahil> anyone know what happened to katapult's page it disappeared
[11:19] <fdoving> might get better evolution-specific help in #ubuntu
[11:19] <The_Machine> no, but "kernel: [17356094.684000]  rtc: lost some interrupts a                                 t 2048Hz." is bothersome.
[11:19] <The_Machine> fdoving: well, i was generally looking for help with how to recover KDE apps
[11:19] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: no results
[11:19] <The_Machine> because this was happening with amarok for a while
[11:20] <The_Machine> i was lauching them and they were just dissapearing..
[11:20] <faLUCE> apt-get is linked to the old list too
[11:20] <The_Machine> just curious how to recover from that without having to reload the window manager
[11:20] <The_Machine> :D
[11:21] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: look at  /etc/apt: there's a backup bin file
[11:22] <The_Machine> heh
[11:22] <The_Machine> okay
[11:22] <The_Machine> all of KDE just dissapeared
[11:22] <The_Machine> but i have a terminal up..  how do i "run" kde again - without restarting KDE?
[11:22] <The_Machine> like, the window manager - -
[11:23] <wildchild> what's the replacement for command dpkg?
[11:23] <TheDebugger> startke?
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, we are moving to 2005 (version 8) soon, when people have time to do what is necessary
[11:23] <TheDebugger> startkde?
[11:23] <The_Machine> "KDE already seems to be running on this display"
[11:23] <The_Machine> heh
[11:23] <The_Machine> crap.
[11:24] <TheDebugger> TheGateKeeper: What's wrong with 2k3?
[11:24] <fdoving> The_Machine: 'kicker &'
[11:24] <The_Machine> yes!
[11:24] <faLUCE> Linux_Galore: well now
[11:24] <faLUCE> it works
[11:24] <faLUCE> I'm updating the list
[11:24] <wildchild> dpkg unkonwn command..
[11:24] <The_Machine> That was it :)
[11:24] <TheDebugger> The_Machine: Just restart X.. Ctrl+Shift+Backspace
[11:24] <wildchild> I use edgy
[11:24] <darkkish_> hey i have a question
[11:24] <The_Machine> TheDebugger: couldn't, was in the middle of an operation.  Kicker & worked!
[11:24] <fdoving> !ask | darkkish_
[11:24] <ubotu> darkkish_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:25] <darkkish_> i knew that was coming
[11:25] <The_Machine> thanks fdoving :) :) :)
[11:25] <darkkish_> lol
[11:25] <fdoving> you're welcome the_machine.
[11:25] <darkkish_> i was getting there
[11:25] <Motorhead> hai
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> faLUCE: ok, I have to leave , lots of luck and a Merry Xmas
[11:25] <darkkish_> ok so
[11:25] <darkkish_> depending on what desktop i'm on (one out of four)
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> karma Points +1
[11:26] <darkkish_> can it only show the tasks of that one desktop
[11:26] <darkkish_> like xubuntu does
[11:26] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: The engine we're using is moving to 2K5 so we have no choice :)
[11:26] <faLUCE> what a gentle boy:)
[11:26] <CSonicGo> haha, I eat karma for dinner
[11:26] <CSonicGo> that's why I don't have any.
[11:26] <bobbyd> TheGateKeeper: but we get compilation on multiple cores, so that's a bonus
[11:26] <darkkish_> like i have 6 windows open over 4 desktops
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> TheDebugger, well one of it's annoying habits when you try to step into code it comes with some stupid dialog saying it can only show disassemble code
[11:27] <fdoving> darkkish_: yes. you can.
[11:27] <darkkish_> fdoving: cool how?
[11:27] <TheDebugger> TheDebugger: I think 2k5 is not as stable as 2003 though..
[11:27] <TheDebugger> I had some crashes and problems with intellisense
[11:28] <Hawkwind> darkkish_: Right click on the taskbar and go to preferences/configure and there is an option there for it
[11:28] <Hawkwind> darkkish_: You want it to show only apps for the current desktop
[11:28] <darkkish_> yes
[11:28] <darkkish_> hey Hawkwind i remember you
[11:28] <Hawkwind> That was a statement, not a question
[11:28] <darkkish_> haha
[11:28] <darkkish_> do you remember me Hawkwind?
[11:29] <Hawkwind> darkkish_: Kind of.  I see so many people in a day though sometimes I don't remember everyone
[11:29] <darkkish_> wine
[11:29] <darkkish_> WoW and Wine
[11:29] <Hawkwind> Ah yeah
[11:29] <fdoving> darkkish_: if your panel is locked unlock it. then rightclick on the handler (dotted line just in front of the list of tasks/windows).. then select 'Configure tasklist.. ' or something similar (translated on the fly) then.. do as hawkwind just said. de-select 'show apps from all desks'..
[11:29] <bobbyd> darkkish: cedega
[11:30] <darkkish_> thats exactly what i wanted!
[11:30] <darkkish_> thank you
[11:30] <darkkish_> i love you guys
[11:30] <darkkish_> bobbyd: i got wow running fine i just couldn't get sound
[11:30] <darkkish_> and cedega didn't fix the problem
[11:30] <brendan_> hi, i read in a bug report, that gam_server was being replaced in kubuntu
[11:30] <brendan_> is this true, and what is it being replaced with?
[11:37] <darkkish_> is there a show desktop button in KDE?
[11:38] <lupine_85> yep
[11:38] <lupine_85> it's an applet IIRC
[11:38] <darkkish_> aha fiound it :) thanks
[11:39] <Misfit> I want to partition my HDD, one small partition (10-20gb?) for the OS, and then the other partition being the rest of the space on the HDD, for my apps and stuff. Any ideas/reccommendations?
[11:39] <darkkish_> my panel is getting kind of big and lacking space for apps
[11:40] <darkkish_> what can i do about that?
[11:40] <fdoving> brendan_: is it? i think some time it was discuessed to drop it completely for kde-things. not sure how that discussion ended though.
[11:40] <Hawkwind> darkkish_: Create a new panel
[11:40] <darkkish_> how?
[11:40] <Hawkwind> darkkish_: Right click on the current panel and there is an option to create new panels
[11:42] <fdoving> you can also use the quickstarter (or whatever it's called in english) applet.. to make your launcher buttons smaller.
[11:42] <fdoving> quick launcher, that is in english.
[11:43] <darkkish_> now my mouse is acting up...
[11:43] <darkkish_> its stuck going down unless i move it up (its the eraser style laptop mouse thing)
[11:44] <darkkish_> i can't fix it
[11:44] <darkkish_> what do i do
[11:45] <fdoving> darkkish_: those can do that to you. I had a dell with that problem.. ended up hitting it hard a few times.. sometimes hepled.. but it's not good for the HD.
[11:45] <fdoving> get a usb mouse and disbale the thing.. or something.
[11:45] <Tesla> uber_mort: may i wonder what version of Kubunto you have and how you got it? (CD/DVD/inet upgrade)
[11:45] <darkkish_> wierd i did ctrl alt excape or w/e (never clicked on anything) seems to befine now
[11:45] <Misfit> Is there a program I can use to partition my HDD?
[11:45] <darkkish_> somethinig in adept Misfit
[11:46] <darkkish_> kpart or something like that
[11:47] <lupine_85> qparted
[11:47] <darkkish_> yeah that
[11:47] <darkkish_> >_>
[11:47] <darkkish_> um so
[11:47] <CSonicGo> anyone know how to set up a unix share that is open to all linux boxes?
[11:48] <CSonicGo> I just want to transfer a file, it's very difficult to with samba, is it easier with Unix?
[11:48] <rance> where do i go to configure the cd autoloader?
[11:53] <darkkish_> oops
[11:53] <fdoving> CSonicGo: you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html
[11:54] <CSonicGo> alright
[11:55] <darkkish_> shit
[11:55] <CSonicGo> what what
[11:55] <darkkish_> i just killed... what ever that thing is
[11:55] <CSonicGo> did you break something? :-(
[11:55] <darkkish_> the kmenu
[11:55] <darkkish_> how do i get it back?
[11:55] <CSonicGo> run "kicker"
[11:55] <darkkish_> yay thanks
[11:55] <darkkish_> lol
[11:56] <CSonicGo> ok dudes are there any XMAS themes or something for Kubuntu? I wanna decorate the desktop, nyo?
[11:56] <CSonicGo> heh.
[11:56] <darkkish_> now how do i shut off kasbar?
[11:57] <darkkish_> ?
[11:58] <CSonicGo> well there is task manager :)
[11:58] <darkkish_> but shouldn't there jsut be a way to shut it off?
[11:58] <soulrider> does anyone know how to open a CHM file ?
[11:59] <towync> hello
[11:59] <towync> anyone know what local.conf is for, and where i can find it + edit it?
[11:59] <darkkish_> are there any programs like kasbar (but better)?
[11:59] <towync> !kasbar
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <towync> darkkish kooldock and kxdocker work?
[12:00] <darkkish_> maybe i'll try that thaniks
[12:01] <towync> darkkish what's kasbar
[12:01] <towync> darkkish i went to the site it was confusing lol
[12:01] <endo602> Hello.  How can I convert .iso to .avi?
[12:02] <endo602> Hello.  What program do I use?
[12:02] <darkkish_> ...
[12:02] <darkkish_> iso is an img file
[12:02] <endo602> i know
[12:02] <endo602> its a vcd
[12:02] <darkkish_> if you mount it you might be able to pull a file out of it
[12:02] <darkkish_> but basically an iso is like a zip
[12:02] <endo602> what program do i mount it with?
[12:02] <darkkish_> idk
[12:02] <darkkish_> idk
[12:02] <darkkish_> i don't think it swhat i'm looking for TowerKeeper
[12:03] <darkkish_> er towy
[12:03] <darkkish_> or not xd
[12:04] <endo602> Darkkish, what program will pull the file out?
[12:04] <adz21c> kiso
[12:04] <darkkish_> idk
[12:04] <endo602> cant find idk package
[12:04] <CSonicGo> haha, I got doom to play in Kubuntu! :D
[12:04] <darkkish_> ...
[12:04] <darkkish_> i mean i have no idea
[12:05] <endo602> ohhhh
[12:05] <endo602> sorry
[12:05] <endo602> newb
[12:05] <darkkish_> i am not framilliar with linux eqivelents
[12:05] <endo602> oh ok
[12:05] <endo602> thanks anyways
[12:06] <Tangrim> bonjour
[12:06] <adz21c> endo602: kiso can open iso files to get at them
[12:06] <darkkish_> adz21c: do you know what kasbar is?
[12:07] <endo602> adz21c, what can i use to convert the mpeg to .avi?
[12:07] <adz21c> not that i can think of ... gimmie a clue and it may job my memory, sounds familiar
[12:07] <adz21c> endo602: mencoder or ffmpeg
[12:08] <rance> when kubuntu detects a sound card at boot, and loads modules, what file do I have to edit to change the kernel parameters passed to the module at command line
[12:08] <soulrider> rance: grub ?
[12:08] <mzli> How can I disable utc time? anyone help me?
[12:08] <adz21c> endo602: infact if u mount the iso u can follow tutorials for online for using mencoder to copy vcd's/dvds to avi's :)
[12:09] <rance> you can pass module loading options to grup at boot like "snd_via82xx dxs_level 1
[12:09] <endo602> adz21c, its a bin fiile
[12:09] <mzli> I've set /etc/default/rcS utc=no ,But each restarting will change my time again.
[12:09] <endo602> can i convert it?
[12:10] <adz21c> endo602: i think u can but i can't remember how, i never used a bin file under linux
[12:10] <fdoving> nite.
[12:11] <adz21c> endo602: installl bchunk
[12:11] <wildchild> can someone please tell me what's the kubntu syntax for dpkg ?
[12:11] <adz21c> endo602: that converts bins to iso's
[12:11] <adz21c> endo602: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/82
[12:11] <mzli> wildchild: man dpkg
[12:11] <wildchild> k
[12:11] <wildchild> only problem is
[12:11] <endo602> thanks
[12:12] <wildchild> I can't do this
[12:12] <wildchild> couse I am in nongraphic mode
[12:12] <wildchild> sinec I made somthing wrong in display settings..
[12:12] <wildchild> since?
[12:12] <wildchild> *
[12:12] <mzli> wildchild: man needn't gui.
[12:12] <wildchild> so there is some kind of command that reconfigure those settings..
[12:12] <darkkish_> does anyone use kasbar?
[12:12] <wildchild> xorg.conf
[12:13] <wildchild> and in this command is "dpkg"..