[01:34] <fghgf> hm..
[07:27] <dholbach> good morning
[16:00] <beisner> o/
[16:00] <hallyn> \o
[16:00] <rbasak> o/
[16:00] <caribou> o/
[16:00] <hallyn> morning everyone
[16:00] <smb> o/
[16:00] <hallyn> let's get started
[16:01] <hallyn> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:01] <coreycb_> o/
[16:01] <hallyn> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <hallyn> none
[16:01] <hallyn> #topic Vervet development
[16:01] <matsubara> o/
[16:01] <hallyn> smoser: jamespage: wanna take this away?
[16:02] <smoser> shoudln't it be vivid ?
[16:02] <hallyn> uh, yeah
[16:02] <smoser> sure. anyway.
[16:02] <hallyn> hm, think i got that wrong ina  changelog this mroning
[16:02] <smoser> right now, we're clearly just starting with this vivid thing.
[16:02] <smoser> and hallyn is catching up
[16:02] <smoser> so development at this point would consist of merging from debian, and thinking of feature development / work for the cycle.
[16:03] <smoser> and getting blue prints together.
[16:03] <hallyn> any timeline for blueprint creation?
[16:04] <hallyn> smoser:
[16:04] <smoser> i dont know actually. i'm not that far along.
[16:04] <hallyn> ok
[16:04] <hallyn> thanks
[16:05] <hallyn> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:05] <caribou> nothing particular from our side
[16:05] <caribou> any question ?
[16:05] <hallyn> sounds like no, thanks caribou.  moving on,
[16:05] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (psivaa)
[16:06] <hallyn> psivaa_: anything for the server meeting today?
[16:06] <hallyn> sounds like no, moving on,
[16:06] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:07] <smb> nothing from here today
[16:07] <hallyn> thanks smb
[16:07] <hallyn> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:07] <hallyn> we've got ODS next week of course,
[16:07] <hallyn> anything else?
[16:07] <rbasak> UOS is coming up too.
[16:07] <hallyn> good point.  and when is that?
[16:08] <hallyn> nov 12
[16:08] <hallyn> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/
[16:08]  * rbasak can't find the reminder email he just received
[16:08] <rbasak> Ah, thanks.
[16:08] <rbasak> It's be good to get any blueprint level items agreed before UOS, so we can make decisions during UOS itself instead of endless debate.
[16:08] <hallyn> ok i see that disucssing EOLing of machine type sis still on teh agenda, but as i recall it was decided that should be brought up on the m-l instead,
[16:09] <hallyn> #action hallyn to discuss machine type EOLing on ubuntu-server m-l
[16:09] <meetingology> ACTION: hallyn to discuss machine type EOLing on ubuntu-server m-l
[16:09] <smoser> thank you rbasak
[16:09] <hallyn> rbasak: should we do some semi-organized thing where we email proposed blueprints to the mailing list?
[16:09] <rbasak> That's a good idea.
[16:10] <hallyn> ok, let's codify that,
[16:10] <hallyn> #action everyone to email blueprint proposals to mailing list for discussion
[16:10] <meetingology> ACTION: everyone to email blueprint proposals to mailing list for discussion
[16:10] <hallyn> thanks, moving on,
[16:10] <hallyn> #topic Open Discussion
[16:10] <rbasak> Juju 1.20 will be hitting Trusty in an SRU soon.
[16:11] <hallyn> compeltely backward-compat??
[16:11] <rbasak> This is a major version update, so I'd encourage everyone using Juju to test the upload when it arrives in trusty-proposed, and let us know of any regressions.
[16:11] <rbasak> Yes, it should be fully compatible.
[16:11] <hallyn> perhaps we should have an agenda item for next week to ask who's been testing?
[16:11] <rbasak> You might want to update your deployment, but that's up to you.
[16:11] <rbasak> I'm tracking testing in the bug - bug 1386144.
[16:11] <hallyn> oh, but are we having a meeting next week, or will everyoen be gone for ods
[16:12] <hallyn> rbasak: sounds good
[16:12] <rbasak> Probably not worth having a meeting next week?
[16:12] <hallyn> yeah let's skip to the next week
[16:12] <hallyn> any other items for open discussion
[16:12] <rbasak> Next week a bunch of Canonicalers will be at a sprint
[16:12] <rbasak> Oh, no, that's the week after.
[16:12] <rbasak> Sorry.
[16:13] <hallyn> ok, so moving on,
[16:13] <hallyn> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:13] <hallyn> Should be in two weeks, Tuesday Nov 11 2014, 16:00 utc as usual,
[16:13] <hallyn> matsubara will be chairing
[16:13] <hallyn> thanks everyeone,
[16:13] <hallyn> #endmeeting
[16:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 28 16:13:56 2014 UTC.
[16:13] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-10-28-16.01.moin.txt
[16:13] <matsubara> ok. thanks hallyn
[16:13] <rbasak> Thanks hallyn!
[16:14] <beisner> thanks hallyn
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
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[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <arges> o/
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:01] <cking_> o/
[17:02] <rtg> o/
[17:02] <smb> o/
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Vivid Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:06] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:06] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:06] <jsalisbury> http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:06] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:07] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Utopic/Trusty/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/kamal/arges)
[17:07] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until today (Sept. 30):
[17:07] <bjf>   *   Lucid -
[17:07] <bjf>   * Precise -
[17:07] <bjf>   *  Trusty - Testing
[17:07] <bjf>
[17:07] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:07] <bjf>   * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:07] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:07] <bjf>   * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/sru-report.html
[17:07] <bjf>
[17:07] <bjf>
[17:07] <bjf> Schedule:
[17:07] <bjf>
[17:07] <bjf> cycle: 10-Oct through 31-Oct
[17:07] <bjf> [17:07] <bjf>           8-Oct   Last day for kernel commits for this cycle
[17:07] <bjf>           09-Oct - 10-Oct   Kernel prep
[17:07] <bjf>           12-Oct - 18-Oct   Bug verification & Regression testing.
[17:07] <bjf>           19-Oct - 25-Oct   Bug verification & Regression testing.
[17:07] <bjf>           26-Oct - 01-Nov   Regression testing & Release to -updates.
[17:07] <bjf>
[17:07] <bjf> ..
[17:08] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:08] <jsalisbury>  Vivid Development Kernel update will be added to the minutes posted on the wiki/blog.
[17:09] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:09] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:09] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 28 17:09:54 2014 UTC.
[17:09] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-10-28-17.00.moin.txt
[17:10] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury


[19:43] <dax> i.e.: if the creator is some random person on the internet, the trust value of their PPA is approximately zero
[19:44] <FManTropyx> hmmh, the pre-installed MPlayer does not work
[19:45] <Jordan_U> StephenS: What happens when you try to play H.265 videos in VLC now?
[19:46] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: On 16.04, if anything, you can add the codec to the system with: sudo apt-get install x265
[19:46] <dw1> i have a file i can see with ls but i can't access with most programs. file describes it as JFIF 1.02
[19:47] <dw1> most programs. including cp, convert, etc., say "file not found"
[19:47] <dw1> i got it this bad file from the interwebs, and i need it. :]
[19:47] <YankDownUnder> dw1: It's being recognised as a graphics file.
[19:47] <Jordan_U> dw1: What is the exact and complete path to this file?
[19:47] <dw1> also ls doesn't show it in the same colour as other files
[19:48] <dw1> the path is all alphanumeric and not too long
[19:48] <dw1> it's a .jpg
[19:48] <Jordan_U> dw1: Do you have a reason for not sharing the exact and complete path?
[19:48] <dw1> yeah, has my site in it etc
[19:49] <tgm4883> dw1: your website?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> dw1: That will make trying to help you much harder, to the point that I might not be willing to even try (though others might).
[19:49] <dw1> it's just a normal path
[19:49] <dw1> /var/www/example.com/public_html/img/example-09685_fig2.jpg
[19:50] <tgm4883> trying to keep a website address secret seems silly to me
[19:50] <dw1> who cares, it's off topic
[19:50] <dw1> the file system doesnt like the file type idk
[19:50] <scottjl> probably a porn site
[19:50] <dw1> no it's not i just don't need more competition
[19:50] <Jordan_U> dw1: Please post the output of "ls -l /var/www/example.com/public_html/img/example-09685_fig2.jpg".
[19:50] <scottjl> sure there's no special characters hidden in the name?
[19:51] <scottjl> should try ls -lb
[19:51] <Jordan_U> dw1: I seriously doubt that anyone in this channel cares to compete with you.
[19:51] <postmodern> is there an official command for listing added PPAs?
[19:52] <dw1> https://pastebin.com/raw/mNJXZkha
[19:53] <dw1> looks the same like i said, but it's coloured differently
[19:53] <scottjl> the color is only the permissions on the file. not a big deal. you should still be able to read it
[19:53] <scottjl> dw1: you can access the other files in that directory ok?
[19:54] <dw1> some others have the same problem
[19:54] <dw1> but most dont
[19:54] <scottjl> try a -alhb
[19:54] <scottjl> see if any funny chars print
[19:54] <dw1> you nailed it
[19:54] <Jordan_U> postmodern: Not "official", but https://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line-into-an . Note that for most purposes "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" will get the job done.
[19:54] <scottjl> :-)
[19:54] <dw1> there's a slash at the end :] thanks
[19:55] <andywork> dw1: good luck with the porn site!
[19:55] <dw1> lol
[19:55] <scottjl> so easiest way to remove them is "mv example-09685.jpg* example-09685.jpg
[19:55] <scottjl> "
[19:55] <scottjl> do that for each funny file
[19:56] <scottjl> should trim off the hidden crap
[19:56] <dw1> yea, awesome
[19:58] <Jordan_U> dw1: By the way, that command isn't showing that there is a '\' at the end of the file, it's showing that there is whitespace (like a space or tab) at the end of the file.
[19:58] <dw1> ahh good point thx
[20:09] <StephenS> Jordan_U, that ppa works and vlc plays h256 fine
[20:09] <StephenS> just asking if ppa is any good
[20:10] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: Which PPA?
[20:10] <StephenS>  this ppa https://launchpad.net/~strukturag/+archive/ubuntu/libde265 ?
[20:10] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: If it's on Launchpad, I'll assume the bloke/girl has a reputation and it would be trustworthy.
[20:11] <StephenS> alright, ty
[20:12] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: I'd just make sure the person's name wasn't "Stephen" - very untrustworthy name that...(Oh wait! That's my name!) ;)
[20:14] <Batin> hello
[20:15] <Batin> what are the minimum RAM requirements for Ubuntu 17.04 i386 Desktop?
[20:15] <snowrichard2> hi
[20:15] <Batin> hi
[20:16] <YankDownUnder> Batin: I'm surprised you haven't looked: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
[20:16] <YankDownUnder> "Let me Google that for you"
[20:17] <Batin> YankDownUnder, I have read it, but I think that it is for the AMD64
[20:19] <YankDownUnder> Batin: Easy -> have at least 2gb of RAM...you might find a bit of a struggle if your graphics card is "onboard"...4gb - at least - would suffice...also, bear in mind that 17.04 is a dev release...the LTS releases have more stability and support. :)
[20:19] <Batin> YankDownUnder, the problem is that the computer has only one GB of RAM
[20:20] <Batin> probably I will have to install 16.04 for i386
[20:20] <YankDownUnder> Batin: You might want to find a different linux distro for a machine of that spec...unless you're planning on adding RAM...
[20:20] <YankDownUnder> Batin: That might work.
[20:21] <Batin> ok, I will try
[20:21] <ducasse> Batin: you can try lubuntu
[20:21] <ducasse> Batin: 1gb is not much, though. depends on what you're going to use it for.
[20:22] <Batin> ducasse, ok, I will give it a try too. The computer is a bit old, 13 years
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Batin: +1 ^^ " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .
[20:23] <Batin> I see
[20:23] <ducasse> Batin: it might be time to get a new one, then.
[20:23] <Batin> it is for an org with low budget
[20:25] <eva> any using remox os?
[20:25] <eva> remix
[20:26] <ducasse> Batin: still, 13 years is an immense amount of time in computing. you can't expect it to do all the things people want to do today.
[20:26] <YankDownUnder> eva: #remix-os
[20:26] <eva> yes
[20:26] <eva> none are here only me
[20:26] <scottjl> guess no one else uses it.
[20:26] <Batin> ducasse, I fear it is
[20:27] <Batin> I'll give lubuntu a try anyway
[20:27] <ducasse> Batin: if that turns out not to work, ask in ##linux for other options.
[20:28] <YankDownUnder> Batin: That's worth a try - there's also a few distros listed on distrowatch.com that are super small and might work, too.
[20:28] <Batin> ok, thanks to all
[20:28] <scottjl> puppy
[20:32] <Guest94732> hi
[20:33] <latenite> Hi folks how can I solve this error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/69f45f3087594d07b2ac7af49b8f5b55
[20:36] <YankDownUnder> latenite: In a terminal, can you run: sudo apt-get -f -y install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade ==> ??
[20:37] <zhanx> if not the old tried and true rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists  and apt clean should work latenite
[20:41] <Bashing-om> latenite: Be aware : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1644498 . Upstream fix .
[20:44] <tonyt> The government today, announced that it's changing it's emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM, because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance .  It just doesn't get more accurate than that
[20:46] <ducasse> !spam | tonyt
[20:48] <YankDownUnder> Spam...mm...with eggs...must be breakfast time. :)
[20:49] <chalcedony> My husband has Ubuntu 16.04. I had him remove and reinstall his LibreOffice, because apparently some update failed or whatever, it didn't have all the packages, such as Writer, and was opening his files read only.
[20:49] <chalcedony> There are two different versions of LibreOffice 5.2.6 and 5.3.2. He downloaded both versions, from LibreOffice, but neither seems to run. He has been trying different things for hours. Which version does he need? What does he need to do, so he can use it?
[20:51] <tarzeau> i'd  use icloud.com :)
[20:52] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ' apt policy libreoffice ' shows what origin for the package ?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> !info libreoffice xenial | chalcedony
[20:54] <chalcedony> hi Bashing-om let me check that please
[20:55] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, its more than one line, pastebin?
[20:58] <daxorid> installation of ubuntu server hangs at "preparing linux-headers-4.4.0-62..." google results not helping. Any ideas?
[20:58] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/C01UYSM6
[21:00] <ducasse> chalcedony: does 'snap list' list anything?
[21:00] <daxorid> fwiw, the host is still pinging. so I'm guessing no kernel panic. Is there no way to escape to shell during installation to see what's happening?
[21:00] <MrKeuner> hi, dmesg displays time since first boot. e.g. [    1.138478] Does this feature have a special name?
[21:01] <ducasse> daxorid: have you got access to the console?
[21:01] <akik> MrKeuner: it's seconds
[21:02] <daxorid> ducasse: I have physical access, installation application still on-screen.
[21:02] <ducasse> daxorid: check v4, alt+f4
[21:02] <MrKeuner> akik, thanks
[21:02] <ducasse> *vc4
[21:02] <akik> MrKeuner: you can use dmesg -T for pretty formatting
[21:03] <fun> Any fedora user?
[21:03] <ikonia> fun: why ?
[21:03] <Menzador> fun: #fedora
[21:03] <fun> Need help about GUI
[21:03] <fun> ikonia:
[21:03] <ikonia> fun: use the #fedora channel then
[21:03] <fun> I am getting terminal only
[21:03] <daxorid> ducasse: thanks. that gives me what looks like a running log of the installer, but I'd like a shell, maybe to run top to see if it's spinning cpu, if it's exhausted memory, etc
[21:03] <Menzador> fun: #fedora will help ya
[21:04] <Menzador> !pm | fun
[21:04] <fun> How to create bootable usb
[21:05] <fun> I have iso
[21:05] <MrKeuner> akik, what I was really asking is whether reporting the seconds since boot instead of printing the actual timestamp would have a name of its own
[21:05] <ducasse> daxorid: check the other ttys, but i don't think there's a shell running
[21:05] <fun> Then How to install OS from terminal
[21:05] <chalcedony> ducasse, ~$ snap list -
[21:05] <chalcedony> No snaps are installed yet. Try "snap install hello-world".
[21:05] <ikonia> fun: #fedora is the channel you need, "/join #fedora" to join the channel
[21:06] <fun> It's not about fedora
[21:06] <ikonia> what is it about then ? as you've just asked for help fixing your fedora gui and help installing fedora
[21:06] <fun> About any os
[21:07] <ikonia> fun: we don't support any OS
[21:07] <ikonia> fun: join #fedora for help with your fedora problems
[21:07] <ducasse> chalcedony: ok. then i would just remove the libreoffice copies you downloaded and try 'sudo apt install libreoffice'. using software from the repos is preferable to downloading it from websites.
[21:07] <daxorid> ducasse: yeah, no shell. so, am I out of luck here? no way to troubleshoot this?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: That says not installed and looking to get from our repo . what show now ' dpkg -l | grep libreoffice ' ?
[21:10] <ducasse> daxorid: usually the log provides info on what has gone wrong, i have no other suggestion right now.
[21:11] <daxorid> allright, thanks anyway.
[21:12] <ducasse> daxorid: how long has it been sitting there?
[21:12] <daxorid> ducasse: roughly 30 minutes
[21:12] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, ~$ dpkg -l | grep libreoffice
[21:12] <chalcedony> nothing
[21:12] <chalcedony> i wonder what he did?
[21:13] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Let's ";ook" at what might be propr to attempting a install from our repo . what shows ' sudo find / -name libreoffice ' . Got to be a reason !
[21:14] <Bashing-om> "look"
[21:14] <marvin2> how can I grep for files that contain both "foo" and "bar" (not necessarily one after another)?
[21:14] <ducasse> daxorid: ok. i would probably rewrite the image (if possible on another stick) just in case and restart the installation, rather than spend more time on this.
[21:15] <daxorid> ducasse: finally found one thread with the exact same problem: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322570
[21:15] <daxorid> looks like it's just expected for installation to take 4 hours or so
[21:15] <daxorid> although I don't have RAID hardware on this box - otherwise symptoms are identical to that thread.
[21:16] <ducasse> daxorid: i know it can take long, i've just never seen it go beyond 30 minutes.
[21:16] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, it found a lot of them
[21:16] <ducasse> daxorid: sorry, i've really gtg.
[21:17] <CarlFK> bios settings for pxe installer only has efi, it boots, installer runs, installs everything to one partition.  bios for ssd only has legacy.  still says no boot.  bios screen: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/static/temp/d8-0.png
[21:17] <chalcedony> still finding
[21:17] <chalcedony> ducasse, have a good night
[21:17] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Be good to see what it found - in a pastebin, please - we consider if install from our repo is doable .
[21:18] <daxorid> ducasse: thanks
[21:19] <chalcedony> ok Bashing-om it's still finding :)
[21:20] <vimes> hello! Trying to set up a python3 virtualenv on a school owned ubuntu server (I have full root), but it keeps failing and I don't understand why. the log https://hastebin.com/ilabonozeh.sql
[21:21] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Long slow process . patience :)
[21:21] <CarlFK> vimes: well, the good news is I see the problem: locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[21:21] <CarlFK> vimes: I would ask in #python
[21:21] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, no problem. i hope it will let me copy all that ga
[21:25] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ' try as ' sudo find / -name libreoffice | pastebinit ; when this process completes :)
[21:26] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Mind ya we want to find out where to install libreoffice from . we be "hunting" .
[21:28] <blackflow> vimes: you need to set up locale. dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:28] <blackflow> vimes: need to set up whichever locale that module is trying to set
[21:44] <CarlFK> progress... I told the installer to install to the ssd, then grub to a usb stick.  booted, now I get "no such device (long guid)" ... grub rescue>
[21:47] <sam12> hello
[21:47] <CarlFK> hi
[21:47] <sam12> i am new to ubuntu and stuck in a problem
[21:47] <sam12> my os is not booting and my all imp data is in that
[21:48] <sam12> is there any way to restore that
[21:48] <ikonia> sam12: you'd get better help if you defined "not booting"
[21:49] <sam12> screen is black and a minus symbol keeps blinking
[21:51] <CarlFK> sam12: reboot, hold the shift key down (hmm, I think it matters left or right...  so do both)
[21:51] <sam12> ok then...
[21:52] <CarlFK> sam12: you may get a grub boot screen.  that will be progress.
[21:52] <sam12> first time it showed cant read data from hd0 entering grub rescue mode but from after that nothing
[21:54] <sam12> right now i am running ubuntu through removable media.. but cant access my old files
[21:54] <artur_> hi
[21:55] <davor> howdy
[21:55] <sam12> i have also tried boot repair disk
[21:57] <Sparrow_> sam12, in live mode have you opened gparted and looked at your partition from there
[21:57] <sam12> yes
[21:57] <davor> I just installed 17.04 on a lenovo g710 laptop and the wifi interface isn't listed in the gui, even though I can find it in the output of lspci, and it's not soft/hard blocked as per rfkill
[21:58] <davor> network manager only shows the wired connection
[21:58] <bekks> davor: So which chipset is it?
[21:58] <davor> oh, sorry. broadcom BCM43142
[21:59] <sam12> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/4oPYWMsSRkmu4c9HS5w9?signature=83fa5522bbe4d89e2374dae0286e5497e85df40d08d39b36570a01ecce0b0b26&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0OTI4MTQ3NzV9
[21:59] <Sparrow_> sam12, wht happens when you try to mount the damged os partition?
[22:00] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/Gu1G3kx4  1 hour paste
[22:01] <Sparrow_> sam12, sorry O can help with the lvm prob.
[22:01] <sam12> ok.. is he online?
[22:01] <Sparrow_> sorry.. No not O
[22:02] <sam12> any suggestion for me..
[22:03] <Sparrow_> sam12, what happens when you try to mount the damged os partition?
[22:03] <Sparrow_> sda1
[22:04] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Look'n :)
[22:05] <sam12> https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhlE3OQDA6tZ
[22:05] <chalcedony> ty Bashing-om :)
[22:07] <sam12> please check that link
[22:12] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Above my knowledge are all these " /timeshift/snapshots/ " . Seems though that most of the packages are still installed . let's see what ' sudo apt install --reinstall libroffice ' does for us .
[22:15] <latino31> there is a bug when trying to uninstall python3.5 with synaptic manager...it gives a list of items it wants to remove one of which is apparmor? i tried unintalling python3.5 in ubuntu 16.10 and it crashed my ubuntu because it tried to remove a lot of stuff
[22:15] <nacc> latino31: why are you removing python3.5?
[22:15] <latino31> synaptic package manager
[22:15] <ikonia> "why"
[22:15] <dax> that isn't a bug. apparmor depends on python3, current version of python3 in Ubuntu is python3.5
[22:16] <kostkon> latino31, python is a major part of ubuntu don't remove it
[22:16] <Sparrow_> Probably part of meta-package if memory serves.
[22:16] <latino31> kostkon, thanks for the info now after my ubuntu crashed a few weeks..
[22:16] <latino31> :)
[22:16] <latino31> ago
[22:16] <latino31> it would be nice to have a warning
[22:17] <latino31> how do you specify using python3.6 specefically
[22:17] <ikonia> you don't
[22:17] <nacc> latino31: just install python3.6 and then run `python3.6` ?
[22:17] <ikonia> use the version that ships with ubuntu
[22:17] <nacc> latino31: uh, you were given a warning, it removed a bunch of stuff
[22:18] <latino31> ikonia there is a program that uses python3.6...and python3.6 is in the repos
[22:18] <ikonia> latino31: what program depends on 3.6 specifically
[22:18] <latino31> nacc well i mean why would someone want to remove a program that will crash ubuntu
[22:18] <latino31> ikonia it uses 3.6 syntax
[22:18] <latino31> its not going to run in 3.5
[22:19] <latino31> i already talked to the creagtor
[22:19] <latino31> creator
[22:19] <ikonia> latino31: what application depends on 3.6
[22:19] <nacc> latino31: you are root, when you add/remove packages, you can do anything you want to your system
[22:20] <latino31> ikonia, it uses syntax specefic to 3.6...your asking useless questions ..as i said before the creator told me this and it runs for him in 3.5...
[22:20] <nacc> latino31: as root, it is presumed you know what you are doing
[22:20] <latino31> in 3.6 i mean
[22:20] <Batin> bye
[22:20] <ikonia> latino31: yes, you said that "what is the name/website of the application"
[22:20] <nacc> latino31: then install python3.6 (don't remove python3.5) and invoke python3.6 explicility
[22:20] <latino31> nacc i thought i tried that i can try again
[22:21] <nacc> latino31: well, if you removed python3.5 and haven't put it back yet, do that first
[22:21] <nacc> latino31: and replace all the packages you removed too
[22:21] <latino31> naac that worked ...i thought i had tried but i guess i did not
[22:21] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Above my knowledge are all these " /timeshift/snapshots/ " . Seems though that most of the packages are still installed . let's see what ' sudo apt install --reinstall libroffice ' does for us .
[22:21] <chalcedony> er darn
[22:21] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, Reading state information... Done
[22:21] <chalcedony> E: Unable to locate package libroffice
[22:21] <latino31> naac i did not remove it this time but i saw again how many packages it wanted to remove to i cancelled it
[22:21] <nacc> chalcedony: libreoffice
[22:22] <nacc> latino31: "nacc" not nacc. Use tab-complete to avoid that
[22:22] <latino31> python3.6 works thanks
[22:22] <nacc> latino31: err, "nacc" not naac, I meant
[22:23] <chalcedony> nacc, ha yes i just saw that.. trying again :)
[22:24] <chalcedony> nacc, Bashing-om its doing it :)
[22:24] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Sorry .. typo . correct to be ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice ' :(
[22:27] <chalcedony> its at about 30%
[22:28] <artur_> bye
[22:30] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, husband says it is doing the wrong version - here are two different versions of LibreOffice 5.2.6 and 5.3.2.
[22:32] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Thn we looking at 3rd party . What do you want to do here ? we can see what the fetch is pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[22:33] <nacc> 5.3.2 isn't in any ubuntu (fwiw)
[22:33] <Handorio> LibreOffice (stable)
[22:33] <Handorio> Hauptprogramm
[22:33] <Handorio> Gewählt: LibreOffice 5.3.2 für Linux  and 5.2.6 for win
[22:33] <kostkon> chalcedony, there is a snap (provided by Canonical) and an deb version of libreoffice available
[22:33] <nacc> kostkon: ah yes, you're right, the snap is at <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:33] <nacc> sorry for the misinformation earlier
[22:34] <kostkon> nacc, yeap
[22:35] <Bashing-om> nacc: "snap" is going to be a trial determining what is installed from where .. I do think .
[22:35] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah, i have defaulted to looking at rmadiso, but didn't think of the snap case -- will write a local wrapper :)
[22:36] <Bashing-om> nacc: Better man than I !
[22:37]  * nacc wonders if we should teach the bot about that
[22:37] <dax> about what
[22:37] <nacc> as the same snap can be installed in 14.04+ now (aiui)
[22:37] <nacc> dax: we have !info <pkgname> <relesae>
[22:37] <dax> oh, snap versions
[22:37] <nacc> dax: but it misses the snaps of a similar/same name
[22:38] <dax> i think the code's at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots , if you want to have a go. it's over my head
[22:38] <nacc> dax: ack :) i'll look next week :)
[22:40] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, and all, my husband says he wants <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:42] <lavinho> rtl8723bs ubuntu 17.04 ?
[22:44] <sshhelp> hey guys, struggling with SSH keys - I setup a server with a key I generated in putty, but I'm struggling to share that key with other servers, or alternatively generate a new key on a different server and allow that on the original one.
[22:44] <sshhelp> I feel like this shouldn't be difficult, but I'm obviously missing something
[22:44] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/3mF3aKwr
[22:44] <chalcedony> (sources.list.d)
[22:44] <sshhelp> how do you add authentication from an unapproved server to your server that only accepts its specific SSH key? I
[22:45] <sshhelp> ran ssh-copy-id from the Approved Server - Server 1 to the unapproved server 2, but that just allows me to connect that way, and I can't do the converse because authentication will fail with public key reject.
[22:47] <bekks> sshhelp: so ssh to server 2 and add the pubkey manually?
[22:47] <sshhelp> Thanks Bekks
[22:48] <sshhelp> Do I cat it to the bottom of hte authorised hosts file?
[22:48] <sshhelp> *append it
[22:48] <ikonia> authorized_key file
[22:48] <ikonia> not host
[22:48] <ikonia> hosts is for host based authentication
[22:48] <sshhelp> yes thank you, wrong word
[22:49] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Surprise surprise, libreoffice is not there ! . what about 'cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list" . any show for libreoffice there ?
[22:50] <sshhelp> straight in! Thank you both.
[22:51] <BAlan> quick question:   in order to run a full version of Ubuntu that will remember settings, install and keep apps, and boot and run it from a USB thumb drive, do I use the HD... version, or the LiveCD version, or does it matter ?   I want to have a FULL Stand-Alone instance of Ubuntu that I can Carry with me and boot on any machine I'm at..
[22:52] <sshhelp> So I'm trying to understand how to do this at scale. Do you have to manually copy to the authorised_key file every time? So run ssh-keygen, then manually copy each time? Wanting to do this on many servers, so a manual process seems excessive.
[22:52] <ikonia> sshhelp: you can share a public key
[22:52] <ikonia> you don't need a new one for each host
[22:52] <bekks> sshhelp: you dont copy the authorized_keys file, you copy the specific public key.
[22:53] <sshhelp> Thanks Bekks, I did the correct thing here. ]
[22:53] <vimes> sshhelp, ssh-copy-id <serveruser>@<serverip>
[22:54] <BAlan> quick question:   in order to run a full version of Ubuntu that will remember settings, install and keep apps, and boot and run it from a USB thumb drive, do I use the HD...
[22:54] <nacc> !patience
[22:54] <nacc> BAlan: --^
[22:54] <nacc> BAlan: you want to look at persistent USB
[22:54] <BAlan> or the LiveCD version, or does it matter ?   I want to have a FULL Stand-Alone instance of Ubuntu that I can Carry with me and boot on any machine I'm at..
[22:54] <nacc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[22:55] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, i believe that 'autoremove' was very effective. we downloaded the new ones from the LibreOffice webpage.
[22:55] <nacc> i think the latter is more current
[22:55] <sshhelp> Thanks vimes - I had used that, but that copied from Server 1 to Server 2 quite happily, but not the converse, because that one was missing the public key of server 2 in the authorised_key file, so it was rejecting the connection - the advice of @bekks and @ikonia clarified it for me.
[22:56] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: See : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice >>> Installing a newer version of LibreOffice than available via Ubuntu repositories . Then we want to KNOW that <IP_ADDRESS> is compatible with 16.04 .
[22:57] <sshhelp> Also is that a Pratchett reference? I really want to get a dog and call it Laddie... or perhaps Gaspode, depending on the dog.
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> Gaspode!
[22:57] <BAlan> thanks nacc...  I wasn't sure that question posted fully the first time, I only saw the second half of it..  sorry..
[22:58] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, reading ty :)
[22:58] <BAlan> i'll go check out those sites now...
[23:03] <Guest87067> I'm trying to dual boot win 10 with ubuntu 16.04, if I create a new partition in the ubuntu installer instead of in windows, will it mess up my old files?
[23:04] <Guest87067> and my old os?
[23:08] <uboontoo> nope, you can do it :)
[23:11] <Guest87067> so it should be fine?
[23:11] <Handorio> you can use ubuntu and win on the same hdd
[23:11] <Handorio> you win is safe
[23:12] <Handorio> and you can run it about the os loader
[23:12] <Handorio> *your win is safe
[23:12] <mach20x> Having issues with my graphics card after the update to the -72 kernel
[23:13] <tomreyn> Guest87067: this said, whenever you modify your partitions you should be sure you have current backups of all your data.
[23:13] <BAlan> additional question:  Persistant Ubuntu on a USB stick...   Already have the stick prepared, partitioned with 30gb main, 20gb data, and a 8+gb swap.   Have access to UnetBootIn that has versions up to 10.04 Net/HD/Live (64), plus daily_live64 sources for install...
[23:13] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, i read it. so we should remove the LibreOffices and start over again? (downloading here takes ages and makes the internet close to unusable for anytning else)
[23:13] <tomreyn> or rather, that's something you should be sure about in general, as well as how you will restore them and how long it will take oyu.
[23:14] <BAlan> is it possible to select one of those, which would be best ?, and install that onto the stick via that utility ?
[23:15] <BAlan> then modify that install to persist ?
[23:15] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: If you mean Ubuntu 10.04, you'll want something later than that (16.04 probably).
[23:17] <BAlan> Can the 10.04 still be upgraded to newer after install with upgrade utility ?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Honestly . If there are still libreoffice packages on the system; I would enable the PPA and try ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice-gtk2 libreoffice-gnome ' : http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/08/03/libreoffice-5-2-released-how-to-install/ .
[23:18] <BAlan> too much of a jump ?
[23:18] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: Way too much.
[23:18] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: A clean install also keeps things nicer.
[23:19] <tomreyn> but yes, it's theoretically and practically possible
[23:20] <Bashing-om> BAlan: My 2 cents worth .. way too many changes ! from 10.04 to 16.94 .. and a LOT of bandwidth, time, and effort . Do a fresh clean install of 16.04 and in about 30 minutes done .
[23:20] <tomreyn> is it a good idea though? probably not
[23:20] <BAlan> if I d/l the 16.04 version, is there a specific install format, meaning NetInstall, etc that would be the best to use ?  Or just the main full LTS version ?
[23:20] <BAlan> and then use unetbootin to burn the ISO to the stick ?
[23:20] <tomreyn> if bandwidth / data transfer is a concern, use mini.iso
[23:21] <tomreyn> !mini
[23:21] <BAlan> was that mini.iso comment for me ?
[23:22] <tomreyn> yes BAlan
[23:22] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: I'm not sure how to install it persistently on a USB key.
[23:22] <erialdo> hello, I did a stupid thing. I accidentaly renamed the files and folder on home directory all
[23:22] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: I've done it once through VirtualBox, but not directly yet.
[23:22] <erialdo> now caja shows all the home directory at once
[23:22] <erialdo> not only desktop
[23:22] <erialdo> what are the defualt folders of ubuntu mate
[23:24] <tomreyn> BAlan: what are you trying to do there again? having a single ubuntu installation on a bootable usb stick, which you can carry around with you and use with multiple computers?
[23:24] <BAlan> I'll go with the v16.04 iso, and see how it works...   nacc gave me the urls for the persistant mods a few minutes ago, and I'll dive into those after install, but I'll prob be back..  Thanks All, please say a silent prayer...  ;-)
[23:25] <BAlan> tom: yes...
[23:25] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: No problem.
[23:26] <BAlan> tomreyn: anything to add ?
[23:26] <erialdo> hello How to make caja to work correctly again
[23:26] <erialdo> coz i did a stupid shit
[23:26] <erialdo> I accidentaly renamed all files and folders in my home directory
[23:27] <erialdo> fortunately those with dot are the same as before
[23:27] <tomreyn> BAlan: okay then i'd download mini.iso, use virtualbox (or some other virtualization) to boot off the iso image, attach the usb stick to the VM (pass through) and select the usb drive as target disk for th einstallation in the VM.
[23:28] <tomreyn> BAlan: to me, that's the easiest approach. but if, for example, you'r enot into virtualization,t hen maybe that's not for you.
[23:28] <lollhosh> hi guys
[23:28] <lollhosh> fine?
[23:28] <BAlan> thanks tom....
[23:28] <BAlan> good idea...
[23:30] <tomreyn> BAlan: personally i like this full installation (which is similar to Method 1 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent) a lot more than the overlayed one (which is Method 0 on that guide)
[23:31] <tomreyn> it runs faster, is more flexible.
[23:31] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, do you know which PPAs he needs?
[23:31] <erialdo> @BAlan install virtualBox in a machine. Download the iso image from the ubuntu mate homepage. create a bootable usb using the program Rufus. now start virtualbox and create a virtual machine
[23:31] <erialdo> using the iso image
[23:32] <erialdo> if you want to install it in a pc use the bootable usb that you created with rufus
[23:33] <akik> erialdo: it would really help if you pastebin the output of "ls -l $HOME"
[23:34] <tomreyn> !paste | erialdo
[23:34] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa ' seems most likely .
[23:35] <akik> erialdo: i don't think you broke anything, anyhow
[23:35] <erialdo> @akik yeah
[23:35] <erialdo> but it is really annoying
[23:35] <erialdo> because it shows all the folders
[23:35] <erialdo> on desktop
[23:36] <erialdo> not only desktop
[23:36] <erialdo> I don;t know if you understand me
[23:37] <erialdo> the main thing is that not the default folders (Documents, Downloads etc ) are called 1.jpg, 2.jpg etc
[23:37] <erialdo> I know I should have looked where i type the command
[23:38] <erialdo> you have the default folders of ubuntu mate there
[23:38] <akik> erialdo: i think you can see the default dirs in /etc/skel or after creating a new user account and logging in with it
[23:38] <erialdo> could you tell me the names
[23:38] <erialdo> ah ok
[23:38] <erialdo> let me check
[23:38] <erialdo> you know my main problem is with caja because it shows all the folders
[23:39] <erialdo> not only Desktop when I boot
[23:39] <akik> erialdo: you can upload a screenshot at imgur.com
[23:39] <erialdo> yeah sure
[23:40] <ghost__> hi
[23:40] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, its doing its thing ty
[23:41] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Not out of the woods til the test in in :)
[23:41] <erialdo> http://imgur.com/a/PAti4
[23:41] <erialdo> @akik
[23:42] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, we have the keys. what's next?
[23:43] <akik> erialdo: did you move those dirs into /home/erialdo/Desktop/ ?
[23:44] <erialdo> no
[23:44] <erialdo> i renamed some of them
[23:44] <akik> it looks like it
[23:44] <erialdo> the one Desktop is the same as before
[23:44] <erialdo> Downloads too
[23:44] <erialdo> the others don't remember
[23:45] <erialdo> I thought if I renamed all could go back as it was
[23:45] <erialdo> apparently not
[23:45] <erialdo> caja is a little dizzy
[23:45] <akik> erialdo: pastebin "ls -l $HOME $HOME/Desktop"
[23:45] <erialdo> ok
[23:46] <erialdo> https://pastebin.com/622YMcC5
[23:47] <erialdo> sorry it was ls -l $HOME
[23:47] <chocolaterobot> guys, do you think it's a good idea to install Ubuntu on my new tablet (Chuwi Hi12)?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Did libreoffice install ? what results in starting it ?
[23:48] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, ill go take a look
[23:48] <bazhang> chocolaterobot, is that a touch device
[23:48] <chocolaterobot> bazhang: yes, it's a tablet that with a touchscreen http://en.chuwi.com/product/items/Chuwi-Hi12.html
[23:48] <bazhang> !touch | chocolaterobot
[23:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch for that chocolaterobot
[23:49] <chocolaterobot> bazhang: i saw that page and didn't see my tablet there
[23:49] <chocolaterobot> ok, will visit that irc room
[23:49] <erialdo> https://pastebin.com/JHvUmYjd
[23:49] <erialdo> @akik
[23:49] <bazhang> chocolaterobot, thats the channel for it
[23:49] <chocolaterobot> thanks
[23:50] <chull> Bashing-om, ~$ libreoffice
[23:50] <chull> The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[23:50] <chull> sudo apt install libreoffice-common
[23:52] <Bashing-om> chull: seems rasonable . do it .
[23:53] <akik> erialdo: sorry imgur is acting on me. won't let me zoom on the imgur picture
[23:53] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, doing it :)
[23:53] <Bashing-om> chull: smsame person as chalcedony ??
[23:53] <imightbestupid12> so i set the chmod / 777 for my webserver running as root and i was wondering what do i need to do to revert those changes?
[23:53] <erialdo> @akik maybe is nothing
[23:53] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, yes - hubby's computer
[23:54] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: K .
[23:54] <erialdo> it's just that caja is not working that good
[23:54] <chalcedony> :)
[23:54] <imightbestupid12> guys?
[23:54] <erialdo> @imightbestupid12 there is no undo
[23:54] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: A slight oversight on my part . the system is fully updated at this time, yes ?
[23:55] <imightbestupid12> what is the default permission?
[23:55] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, yes i think so.. he does daily automatic updates
[23:56] <akik> erialdo: sorry i don't know why those dirs and files appear on your desktop. which command did you use that caused this?
[23:56] <erialdo> ls | cat -n | while read n f; do mv "$f" "$n.jpg"; done
[23:57] <erialdo> @akik but i did it in the wrong directory
[23:57] <erialdo> @akik i felt dumb
[23:57] <erialdo> @akik hey akik no problem
[23:58] <erialdo> @akik maybe I will do a format and fresh reinstall
[23:58] <akik> erialdo: you can just create a new user account
[23:58] <erialdo> @akik nah too many applications
[23:59] <erialdo> are those there too?
[23:59] <erialdo> in the new account
[23:59] <akik> erialdo: yes
[23:59] <erialdo> the same apps again ?
[23:59] <SimonT> got a question.. I have 3 HDD's in this box, I'm installing ubuntu server and I want to have the 2nd & 3rd drives available. What do I use for the mount point?
[23:59] <akik> erialdo: unless you installed those in your home dir


[23:22] <mhall119> I can't say I've missed the 'minimize' option
[23:23] <mhall119> really, I'm not sure it has a purpose anymore
[23:24] <masterjb> yello
[23:24] <mhall119> hi masterjb
[23:24] <masterjb> hi
[23:26] <masterjb> why are there so many people but no one talking?
[23:26] <mhall119> masterjb: it's after-hours for all of Europe and the east-coast of the USA
[23:26] <masterjb> so I am guessing you are in the USA
[23:28] <masterjb> ?
[23:28] <mhall119> yes
[23:28] <mhall119> east-coast, so it's technically after-hours for me too
[23:28] <masterjb> dev forum or just about unitry? do you compiz with unity options?
[23:29] <masterjb> im east-coast, but learnin never is an after-hour thing hah
[23:29] <mhall119> I'm not one of the Unity developers, just an advocate :)
[23:29] <mhall119> but you can ask about Unity or compiz in here
[23:30] <masterjb> do you use compiz with the extra addons with ubuntu 11.04+
[23:30] <masterjb> how it glitches but I eventually got it working
[23:30] <mhall119> me?
[23:30] <mhall119> I'm on 11.10
[23:31] <mhall119> if you have just general compiz questions (not related to Unity), you might find more help in #compiz
[23:31] <masterjb> same here i was asking if you are using compiz with the extra addons
[23:31] <masterjb> kk
[23:31] <masterjb> thanks
[23:31] <masterjb> but i have others
[23:31] <masterjb> for instance, in ubuntu 10, we could have or create icons on the top bar
[23:32] <masterjb> is that functionality gone in 11+
[23:32] <mhall119> I think I have the extras plugins installed, not sure if I'm using any of them though
[23:32] <mhall119> launcher icons, or the compiz tray icon?
[23:32] <masterjb> top bar, where battery and wifi signal is
[23:33] <masterjb> before we could add usefule buttons up top
[23:33] <mhall119> ah, the old gnome2 systray is disabled by default
[23:33] <mhall119> in Unity
[23:33] <mhall119> I think there's a way to add it back in, but it's recommended to have apps use indicator icons instead
[23:34] <masterjb> yeah but i like them both hah
[23:34] <masterjb> --help
[23:39] <bgois> Hey guys. I really like the latest updates to unity. I feels a lot faster and better.
[23:40] <masterjb> yeah
[23:40] <njotta> hi all
[23:40] <masterjb> hi
[23:41] <njotta> so, any good ideas discussed?
[23:41] <jono> bgois, :-)
[23:49] <mas> i need to talk to a unity developer immediately!~
[23:49] <mas> facebook led me here!
[23:50] <bgois> 12.04 is the first Alpha release that i use. And it still pretty much stable. I think it's more stable than my old oneiric.
[23:55] <mas> who else keeps accidentally going too far to the left with mouse when using a touchpad causing the launcher to pop out?
[23:56] <mhall119> mas: lol
[23:56] <AlanBell> mas: you can set the launcher to stay out all the time
[23:57] <mhall119> mas: unfortunately they're probably all done working for the day
[23:57] <AlanBell> I find it much much much easier to use
[23:57] <mas> oh no don't get me wrong...i like it
[23:58] <mas> but that one thing keeps getting in the way when i'm working fast
[23:58] <AlanBell> I set mine to 32 px size (smaller than the default 48) and never to hide
[23:58] <mhall119> mas: they are experimenting with different ways or preventing the launcher from appearing when you don't want it
[23:58] <mas> oh coo, thanks mhall
[23:58] <mas> *cool
[23:59] <jono> mhall119, can you give me admin access to the sumo server?


[06:25] <Whoopie> Hi, as you maybe already know there's a new skype version available. Where can I open a ticket for the partner repository? Thanks for your help.
[09:21] <alexey> Hi all
[09:23] <alexey> In my app I should receive SIGPROF signal in 2 threads by posix says that signal is delivered to random thread in process. So, how I can receive it in multiply threads
[11:31] <popey> hm. Why is this red for over a month? http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/desktop/
[15:44] <bluesabre> Hello sponsors!  If anybody is around today, please take a moment to upload this package to trusty-proposed
[15:44] <bluesabre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405
[15:44] <bluesabre> Or if you have feedback, I will be available.
[15:45] <parzzix> Hello, I was wondering on what was going on with Canonicals fork of Trojita? Is there a project pae?
[16:26] <Guest28109> تحذير
[16:26] <Guest28109> warning
[16:26] <Guest28109>  you may be  watched
[16:26] <Guest28109> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
[16:26] <Guest28109> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
[23:58] <mwhudson> suppose there is an apt repository
[23:58] <mwhudson> that only publishes lists for binary-amd64
[23:58] <mwhudson> but all packages in the repository are actuall _all.deb
[23:59] <mwhudson> is there some sneaky way i can add the repository anyway?
[23:59] <mwhudson> (on a different arch)


[11:47] <Puck`> there's some flooding going on on #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <Puck`> oh, okay, settled (:
[12:12] <sense> Do you have ops powers in LoCo channels? There is this irritating person in #ubuntu-nl who constantly reconnects and disconnects.
[12:13] <bazhang> sense, the ops there do; /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-nl list
[12:14] <sense> ok
[12:17] <sense> there is no chanserv in #ubuntu-nl
[12:18] <sense> and it seems that our own ops are unavailable
[12:34] <ninnnu> sense: chanserv doesn't have to show up in names-list in order to work. #ubuntu-nl seems to have 5 ops (according to chanserv).
[12:34] <sense> ninnnu: ok


[00:18] <czajkowski> peeka boo
[02:33] <jono_> greg-g, fancy pimping http://twitter.com/severedfifth ?
[02:33] <jono_> new website launches on Monday
[02:33] <jono_> second album is coming
[08:28] <nigelbabu> popey: the Teams page is still down? :(
[08:32] <popey> yup
[08:32] <popey> i saved a copy from the google cache
[08:40] <nigelbabu> do we have a backup or are we recreating?
[09:34] <bencrisford> g'morning all
[09:35] <ddecator> morning bencrisford
[12:32] <nigelb> morning folks :)
[12:43] <bencrisford> nigelb: evening :D


[01:22] <Traveler> lotta coming and going, anyone wanna type at each other ?
[01:25] <JonathanD> no
[01:35] <andrew> wow, google chat now supports /me
[06:36] <JonathanD> Morning!
[08:48] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[08:48] <rmg51> are you sure your not andrew?
[08:49] <rmg51> way too early for you
[09:34] <JonathanD> hey
[09:34] <rmg51> o/
[09:42] <JonathanD> 240
[10:00] <JonathanD> No sun yet
[10:11] <rmg51> this will happen when you get up this early
[10:11] <JonathanD> I don't like it.
[10:12] <rmg51> stay in bed :-D
[10:13] <JonathanD> no
[10:13] <JonathanD> I don't like that either.
[10:14] <rmg51> sleep standing up :-/
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:24] <waltman> the days are shorter on JonathanD's homeworld
[12:25] <waltman> either that or the clock on his holodeck's running a little fast
[12:37] <rmg51> or he's channeling andrew ;-)
[12:50] <JonathanD> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/08/microsoft-research/
[12:52] <waltman> they lost me at "braniac"
[12:54] <JonathanD> waltman: lets play ping pong.
[12:54] <waltman> yay!
[12:54] <waltman> or foosball!
[12:55] <JonathanD> Oh dear.
[12:55] <JonathanD> They're describing the radio tuning in hitchhikers.
[12:55] <JonathanD> You might also use it to control your phone: For instance, you could touch your forefinger and thumb together to answer a call, or touch your middle finger and thumb together to pause music playback.
[21:14] <andrew> rmg51: channeling me? perhaps
[21:30] <JonathanD> Morning.
[21:33] <rmg51> afternoon
[21:34] <rmg51> back to cooking dinner
[21:35] <waltman> leftover pasta night for me
[21:35] <waltman> and java coding
[21:47] <Traveler> nearly evening all.


[16:45] <zx2c4> apw: oh cool "UBUNTU: Ubuntu-5.4-5.4.0-13.16"
[16:45] <zx2c4> it's been tagged
[16:45] <zx2c4> !!
[16:46] <apw> zx2c4, its on its way thorugh the sausage machine
[16:46] <zx2c4> is that what "cranking" is?
[16:46] <apw> just a colloquialism, as in 'turning the crank' over and over to make things happen
[16:46] <zx2c4> haha
[17:24] <sdhd-sascha> I already ask at netplan. I can't set link up on a bond device. The members of the bond are all in UP state. I can ping the local bond. What could be wrong ?
[17:31] <sdhd-sascha> Not sure, what happens. But know i got a link. What i have done:
[17:31] <sdhd-sascha> 1) add an ip addr on one bond member
[17:31] <sdhd-sascha> 2) ip link set up dev bond0
[17:31] <sdhd-sascha> 3) netplan apply
[17:31] <sdhd-sascha> Now it works?!
[17:31] <sdhd-sascha> Thank you
[17:54] <zx2c4> apw: is there a .deb built somewhere of those modules?
[17:54] <apw> zx2c4, heh the sausage machine is not _that_ quick
[17:55] <zx2c4> oh... my
[17:55] <apw> zx2c4, and signing into the efi trusty thing takes time too
[17:55] <zx2c4> tag was 2 hours ago.... this cranking machine must be some insane aparatus
[17:55] <apw> zx2c4, the amd64 build is quick-ish, but there are other arches on there
[17:55] <zx2c4> does it require you keep pressing buttons or is it pretty automaed
[17:55] <zx2c4> automated
[17:56] <apw> zx2c4, its mostly automated as you would expect; but it is building on the launchpad builders so it has to wait for availablity etc
[17:56] <apw> zx2c4, and the arm arches take like 8 hours to build
[17:56] <zx2c4> oooo it's a launchpad procedure so of course it takes forever
[17:56] <zx2c4> holy cow
[17:57] <apw> zx2c4, it was only actually uploaded like 20m ago, so ... it'll be a bit
[17:57] <zx2c4> oh :D
[17:57] <apw>       NEW : wireguard
[17:57] <apw> s390x has finished and actually has built a new module ...
[17:58] <apw> so that is hopeful
[17:58] <zx2c4> haha cool what webpage is that
[17:58] <zx2c4> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory is empty
[17:59] <apw> yeah it gets built in a team ppa
[18:01] <apw> zx2c4, once all the arches are built it gets one last review then copied to -proposed to be signed; then it gets properly tested before release
[18:02] <apw> zx2c4, i expect i get to test wireguard :)
[18:05] <zx2c4> hehe
[18:06] <zx2c4> apw: http://demo.wireguard.com/ might be useful
[18:07] <zx2c4> curl https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/plain/contrib/ncat-client-server/client.sh | sudo bash && ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:07] <zx2c4> curl https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/plain/contrib/ncat-client-server/client.sh | sudo bash && ping <IP_ADDRESS> && ip link del dev wg0
[18:08] <zx2c4> curl https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-tools/plain/contrib/ncat-client-server/client.sh | sudo bash && ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS> && ip link del dev wg0
[18:08] <zx2c4> voila.
[18:08] <zx2c4> output looks like this: https://א.cc/ygmapdKc
[18:08] <apw> zx2c4: oh I use it in anger I will know if it works
[18:08] <zx2c4> haha
[20:54] <ricotz> sforshee, hi :), do you mind to retry they finished archs to reduce the automatic delay? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=focal
[20:55] <ricotz> s/reduce/avoid
[20:57] <sforshee> ricotz: done
[20:57] <ricotz> sforshee, ty


[01:05] <upinya_stuff> what does the "contact" thingy do in UbuntuONE?
[23:03] <espen77> how do i change the creditcard tied to my u1 account?
[23:03] <duanedesign> hmm
[23:04] <espen77> have manual payment option and cancel subscription
[23:05] <duanedesign> espen77: You can send a Support Request. https://one.ubuntu.com/support/contact/
[23:06] <espen77> thanx, i will...
[23:06] <duanedesign> espen77: wait
[23:07] <duanedesign> espen77: Go to https://one.ubuntu.com/payment/
[23:07] <duanedesign> hmmm, that doesnt look like it.
[23:08] <espen77> nop,
[23:08] <duanedesign> guess that part of the FAQ needs updating :)
[23:14] <espen77> any news on a win client yet?
[23:17] <duanedesign> espen77: i was just attempting to test it out this weekend
[23:17] <duanedesign> got busy doing other stuff so i did not get it done
[23:18] <duanedesign> but i am anxious to see how it is coming along
[23:30] <espen77> duanedesign: nice, hopefully it will be usable in a not too distant future.
[23:33] <duanedesign> espen77: i think it will be
[23:38] <espen77> :)