[00:03] <barni> GERMAN
[00:03] <HoloIRCUser1> Spain
[00:04] <barni> no hablo espaniol
[00:05] <barni> where are zou from esppaniol
[00:05] <OerHeks> barni, keep this channel free for ubuntu support, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[00:06] <HoloIRCUser1> Ich have keine annung deutsch 😂
[00:06] <HoloIRCUser1> Valencia
[00:07] <HoloIRCUser1> I m new here Barni
[00:07] <OerHeks> !ot
[00:13] <barni> where are zou from
[00:14] <Vic2> Suddenly I can no longer use ntp, though ntp is installed ... this is ubuntu 14.04 desktop
[00:14] <Vic2> what is the full path to ntp?
[00:16] <OerHeks> locate ntp would tell
[00:20] <guest-ttdjq1> hi all
[00:20] <guest-ttdjq1> need help
[00:22] <Vic2> 0erHeks along with 1000 other files with ntp in the name ... what dir would that typically be in ?
[00:23] <OerHeks> in /etc/init.d/ntp perhaps?
[00:24]  * flyingbutter masterbates to anime
[00:25]  * flyingbutter bukakes beowuff
[00:25] <Vic2> 0erHeks yeah that starts the daemon ... but I need to do the command 'ntp -gq' and I am getting file not found.
[00:26] <OerHeks> sudo ntpd -gq https://askubuntu.com/a/256004
[00:28] <guest-ttdjq1> I don’t know where the users are. I’m left with a guest login to the system, but he doesn’t have enough to open the hard drive. Nothing. Only live cd?
[00:33] <espBerry> hello how can i open new terminal with script?
[00:36] <espBerry> no one is here?
[00:37] <guest-ttdjq1> I dont know my friend :( but, im here)
[00:38] <espBerry> my script is ‘python3 exam.py’ that is repeated only 5 times. but when i execute it it execute only first line, i want to execute all line at same time
[00:38] <EriC^^> espBerry: what terminal program
[00:38] <espBerry> EriC^^: i use only script on terminal
[00:39] <Vic2> if you replied 0erHeks - I was disconn .... please repeat, sorry.
[00:40] <Menzie> Vic2 - he said [ sudo ntpd -gq ] and referenced (OerHeks) sudo ntpd -gq https://askubuntu.com/a/256004
[00:41] <Menzie> It's "ntpd," not "ntp"
[00:41] <Vic2> Yep Menzie ... thank you.  To which I replied that I had been doing that for months ... but suddenly today I am getting sudo: ntp: command not found
[00:42] <Menzie> Vic2 - weird, is the ntp package installed?
[00:43] <Vic2> Grrrr ... thanks!  I am embarrased now ... yes it is ntpd, not ntp.  sigh.  Thanks Menzie
[00:44] <Menzie> You're welcome :)
[00:44] <Vic2> I usually look back in bash history for the command as I can never remember it ... dunno why it was like that.  Oh well, thanks again.
[00:51] <James_Epp> Hey folks. I'm hoping to get redirected to a good resource (I'd even take a manpage or something) to understand filesystem permissions. I understand how to use chmod/chown and understand the octal masks at a basic level but I want to know more about effective permissions, how permissions accumulate, how perms are inherited if at all, and so on. Any suggestions?
[00:53] <guest-ttdjq1> I’m left with a guest login to the system, but he doesn’t have enough to open the hard drive
[00:53] <guest-ttdjq1> help
[01:02] <shadowramm> arrowing on history gives me characters instead of the history text. what did I do wrong?
[01:03] <shadowramm> I googled it and all the "answers" are just explinations of what can cause this, not how to fix it. Which I understand are related...
[01:04] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: If you have lost your access to the priviledged account - there is the recovery console with root access as an alternative.
[01:04] <jcb2016> anyone here use the mate desktop?
[01:05] <shadowramm> Bashing-om , google single user mode
[01:05] <shadowramm> oh, you were answering, not asking.
[01:05] <Bashing-om> shadowramm: There is that too :)
[01:05] <shadowramm> my bad
[01:07] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: sudo: невозможно изменить на root gid: Операция не позволена
[01:07] <guest-ttdjq1> sudo: не удаётся инициализировать модуль политики
[01:08] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Sorry, English is the only human language I comprehend.
[01:09] <shibboleth> someone has to explain the letter ж
[01:09] <shibboleth> like, wtf?
[01:10] <shibboleth> also, is the Cyrillic alphabet based on the latin onem but whoever lifted it was dyslexic?
[01:11] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: wait a few second please
[01:11] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: sudo: cannot be changed to root gid: Operation not allowed
[01:11] <guest-ttdjq1> sudo: unable to initialize policy module
[01:13] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: ubuntu: - easiest way is via the grub boot menu - advanced options -> recovery console.
[01:17] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om:
[01:17] <guest-ttdjq1> I tried first to do just that. Did not work out.
[01:18] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: "Did not work out." can be a thousand things that I will not take the time to work through, So tell us exactly what does happen.
[01:21] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: In the recovery mode of the grub bootloader I try to start the system in superuser mode, asks for a password, I enter, but nothing happens. Says that the password is incorrect.
[01:22] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: In recovery mode "you" are root - there is no password. What is the end goal here that you must resort to a root console ?
[01:26] <guest-ttdjq1> Sorry, maybe Google translator made a little mistake with the translation. What does "ultimate goal" mean? I want to see the logs. I can't even begin to understand the problem.
[01:26] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Up - is yours
[01:28] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Understand the difficulty to translate. Have you attempted help in the Russian channel ? What release are you on ( systemd makes a difference) .. and what logs do you want to see ?
[01:32] <jameshjacksonjr> Yeah Google translation is always never correct
[01:33] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: 	I’m sitting for the first time in my life in the IRC channel :) I don’t know how to use it all. It's not difficult for me to translate sit. The main thing is not what country we are from, and the main thing is that we are all people with problems and the desire to help - yes?
[01:37] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Great .. yes --- we do all we can to help. In that regard to help I try and determine the problem. and direct efforts to fix. OK - can you presently boot to the login screen ?
[01:39] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Yes, I can.
[01:40] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Do I do this?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Outstanding .. now at the login screen execute key combination ctl+alt+F2, here is a comsole interface. login here with user name and your password. success ?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> console*
[01:45] <k0nichiwa> free command line utility for working with files with NRG extension ?
[01:45] <k0nichiwa> some idiot has packaged a set of manuals as an NRG image
[01:45] <k0nichiwa> i want to access the manuals so i need a way of extracting them from the NRG format
[01:45] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: I tried to go before so. Gives a message that such users do not exist. And even the root user is not a creature.
[01:46] <VitoG> helll
[01:46] <VitoG> hello
[01:49] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Ouch. Then we are back to acccessing the root acount .. several ways to access the root account, easiest is to boot to the grub boot menu -> advanced options -> recovery kernel -> and in that menu select "root shell".
[01:56] <gdb> https://askubuntu.com/questions/107656/how-to-extract-mount-nero-images-nrg
[01:57] <gdb> (assuming that still exists!)
[02:07] <Noisette> rs
[02:07] <Noisette> larges
[02:10] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: At least tell me which way to think? Search services do not help.
[02:13] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Right now we do not have any info to draw any conclusions - nor know which way to look. Now if we must one can boot a liveDVD/USB and mount the install partition. From there if you want we can look at what is in the system log files.
[02:16] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Yes, I also thought in this direction, but unfortunately I can not open my own hard drive, because there are no permissions to this
[02:17] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: "root" can do all things. We do need to exercise an option to gain a console interface; somewhere :)
[02:19] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: "20:49 < Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Ouch. Then we are back to acccessing the root acount .. several ways to access
[02:19] <Bashing-om>                     the root account, easiest is to boot to the grub boot menu -> advanced options -> recovery
[02:19] <Bashing-om>                     kernel -> and in that menu select "root shell".
[02:25] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Earlier, in the version of Ubuntu 10.04, I needed to do this, I remember about this possibility ... The system does not see, as I understand this user.
[02:29] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: And if we can get to a terminal .. then we can investigate why "that" user is unknown, Be aware I am running short on time and I have other interest I must soon attend to.
[02:34] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Of course, I understand that I delay you. I will now start downloading the latest version of Ubuntu from the official site. It will take time, so you can not wait for me. In general, I thought so that it is worth doing just that. This is the easiest way. Simply, the fact is that I, in the absence of experience, admitted that there are other solutions to my problem. Thanks for the help!
[02:35] <[J]oules> software upgrade installed new kernel. cannot start virtualbox. /sbin/vboxconfig fails.
[02:35] <[J]oules> 4.4.0-143-generic
[02:36] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Others are here too to assist, I will return in an hour or so for another short time. We can continue then, yes ?
[02:36] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Здуфыуб ыещз ф ауц ыусщтв
[02:37] <guest-ttdjq1> oops
[02:37] <guest-ttdjq1> Please, stop afew second
[02:37] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: waiting :))
[02:39] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Shouldn't I, in the process of downloading from the official distribution site, authorize this action on behalf of the superuser?
[02:40] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: What ? to download and burn a liveDVD/USB does not require any elevated privileges.
[02:41] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: I understand, thank you for help! )
[02:42] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: No real help yet - that process is just beginning :P
[02:43] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Oh. Wait please
[02:44] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: waiting .
[02:54] <ffxg> nope
[02:56] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Everything is fine, I beg your help.
[02:57] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: Still here .. but I must soon depart for a time .
[03:03] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: And if I have a 32-bit operating system, and 64 is downloaded - in that case I can hope for success?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: No. A 64 bit software will not run on 32 bit hardware.
[03:07] <Bashing-om> guest-ttdjq1: I must be away for some time. I will return later.
[03:08] <Biessie> HEY!
[03:08] <guest-ttdjq1> Bashing-om: Have a nice day!
[03:27] <shadrowramm> ls
[03:28] <sebsebseb> hi
[03:29] <shadrowramm> hi
[03:30] <sebsebseb> shadrowramm: hi
[03:30] <SNookerZ> hi sebsebseb- hey all i was wondering if there are any virus's in the wild that affect ubuntu 18.04 desktop
[03:31] <shadrowramm> well, we could go and search the database...
[03:31] <SNookerZ> in days gone by i was told no virus on linux period because it too small a target
[03:31] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: good a support issue or sort of :)
[03:31] <sebsebseb> !virus
[03:31] <shadrowramm> https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=ubuntu+18.04
[03:32] <sebsebseb> that bot response si a bit old but yeah
[03:32] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: you can get malicous software
[03:32] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: for Linux distros, but
[03:32] <sebsebseb> it's pretty rare,  and you would have to install yourself or something usually
[03:32] <sebsebseb> just get all the security updates from the repos of the distro that running and should be ok
[03:32] <sebsebseb> and don't get programs off random websites as well,  just like with WIndows
[03:32] <SNookerZ> thanks sebsebseb
[03:33] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: most things you would want to run  will be in the package manager anyway if not  everything
[03:33] <sebsebseb> !repos
[03:34] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: your welcome
[03:45] <SNookerZ> sebsebseb, i was wondering if theres any point running a av scan on linux if so what dir(s)-from what you said i assume the only point of having av on linux is to scan windows/other os files to keep the internet cleaner generally, is my assumption correct?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: ha to keep the Internet cleaner  I like the sound of that, but sounds kind of funny
[03:46] <sebsebseb> and no that was the bot factoid it's old though
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !bot
[03:47] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: most of the Internets servers are run by you guesseit Linux
[03:47] <sebsebseb> you guessed it Linux
[03:47] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: and so their  virus scanners tend to scan for Windows viruses
[03:47] <sebsebseb> that can't infecta  Linux distro
[03:48] <sebsebseb> since designed and made for WIndows
[03:48] <sebsebseb> SNookerZ: well they could maybe infect Wine and things like that a bit,  but that's  a compatability layour program for running  WIndows progarms with Linux etc,  so with the exception of that, won't do anything
[03:49] <Eickmeyer> That's when a good ol' "sudo apt purge wine" comes in handy.
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Eickmeyer: well yeah maybe
[03:50] <sebsebseb> and there's no Wine by default in most Linux distros
[03:50] <sebsebseb> !wine
[03:50] <jcb2016> anyone use the mate desktop. i need help configuring it?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: sometimes I do, what's up ?
[03:50] <jcb2016> sebsebseb: how do you add icons to the desktop ie. computer, recycle bin, folders
[03:51] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: ah yes
[03:51] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: I am actsaully running unity 7 right now and that's what I got installed on this lap top currently, but I belive  there's still giong to be a desktop folder probably in  home
[03:51] <sebsebseb> you could also try right clicking
[03:51] <sebsebseb> maybe even trying to add from the menu's to the desktop by right clicking
[03:53] <jcb2016> sebsebseb: didn't work
[03:54] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: look for a desktop folder in home
[03:54] <[J]oules> update installed 4.4.0-143-generic, after reboot, virtualbox cannot start any vm's. /sbin/vboxconfig fails
[03:54] <sebsebseb> not used virtualbox properly for a little while now
[03:54] <sebsebseb> but
[03:55] <sebsebseb> I think you might need to install the like virtuablox kernel  for the kernel that running
[03:55] <sebsebseb> if that makes sense
[03:55] <[J]oules> well i really rely on it
[03:55] <[J]oules> where is virtualbox kernel?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> that was just a normal kernel update yeah?
[03:55] <[J]oules> yup
[03:55] <sebsebseb> if you load up the old kernel it will probably still work
[03:55] <sebsebseb> worth a test
[03:55] <[J]oules> it was just a regular ubuntu 16.04 update
[03:55] <sebsebseb> but   it should also be able to work with a new kernel
[03:56] <sebsebseb> Virtuablox like installs a thing for the kernel that's running I think, a module or whatever
[03:56] <[J]oules> what it took was apt remove virtualbox*; apt install virtualbox,  then install extensionpak
[03:57] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: I had icons for Firefox and what not in Mate before, ok in a diffenrte distro, but still
[03:57] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: I don't like telling people to Google, but you could probably Google and get a better answer
[03:57] <[J]oules> i tried apt install virtualbox-5.2, won't start vm's, virtualbox-6.0 wont start vm's
[03:57] <[J]oules> something is up with this newer kernel
[03:58] <[J]oules> not in a good way either
[03:58] <sebsebseb> the kernel needs a moudle or something I think
[03:58] <sebsebseb> if you re install virtualbox that might help as well actsaully
[03:58] <sebsebseb> as in competly remove it
[03:58] <sebsebseb> and re install
[03:58] <[J]oules> i did that
[03:58] <sebsebseb> can keep  the .virtualbox in home
[03:58] <[J]oules> i tried apt install virtualbox-5.2, won't start vm's, virtualbox-6.0 wont start vm's
[03:58] <sebsebseb> might be a bug with that kernel as well so it's not working, but not sure
[03:58] <[J]oules> that was after apt remove virtualbox*
[03:58] <sebsebseb> did you try old kernel ?
[03:58] <[J]oules> no
[03:59] <[J]oules> not sure how to run older kernel
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Grub used to keep on adding kernels to the list
[03:59] <sebsebseb> as a new kernel was installed, old would stay, and could just pick old
[03:59] <sebsebseb> but that may have changed now a bit
[03:59] <[J]oules> can you tell me how i would get this box to use older kernel?
[03:59] <jcb2016> sebsebseb: i think i found it. its called Mate Tweak i can add computer, trash to the desktop. plus i can right click on stuff and click pin to desktop. thanks
[04:00] <sebsebseb> if it's instaled still, which it is likely to be , you should be able to boot it up from Grub
[04:00] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: they might have removed some settings yes
[04:00] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: mate tweak from where ?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: don't just get off some random site :D
[04:01] <sebsebseb> !kernel
[04:01] <sebsebseb> hmm
[04:02] <jcb2016> sebsebseb: http://goinglinux.com/articles/Create%20MATE%20Desktop%20Application%20Icons%20_en.htm
[04:02] <[J]oules> this tells us how to boot older kernel
[04:02] <[J]oules> https://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[04:02] <sebsebseb> yeah would boot it up some how from GRUB
[04:02] <jcb2016> sebsebseb: Mate tweak is part of mate its not an addon or anything
[04:02] <sebsebseb> jcb2016: then should be in repos or something
[04:11] <uncool_> in 18.04, have set no domain name, but 'hostname -f' is showing .lan as the domain name. how do i remove that? /etc/hostname just shows the hostname without .lan
[04:28] <CoCo_Kid594> hello all....
[04:29] <uncool_> hi
[04:29] <uncool_> there are no files under /etc/system/network/
[04:30] <uncool_> but i want to change the domain name. what file is systemd-networkd using if no files even exist there
[04:30] <pragmaticenigma> uncool_: Might help to start at the beginning... and explain what it is you are trying to do or what issue you have
[04:31] <uncool_> my router is handing out the .lan domain name, and only my 18.04 mahcines are using it. i need to have them not use that domain name, so hostname -f just has a hostname
[04:32] <uncool_> i used dhcp to get an available ip address, and then used that ip address as a static ip by editing 50-cloudinit.conf
[04:32] <uncool_> while there is no mention of a domain name in that file, systemd-networkd continues to use what it was given during the dhcp handout, and i need to know what to change do drop the .lan domain name. /etc/hostname is already just the host name
[04:33] <pragmaticenigma> uncool_: You can't...
[04:33] <uncool_> pragmaticenigma: ?
[04:33] <uncool_> of course you can
[04:34] <uncool_> where is the domain name being stored
[04:34] <pragmaticenigma> The value is generated and provided by the DHCP server... your box is merely reporting what it was told
[04:34] <uncool_> but i am no longer using dhcp
[04:34] <uncool_> but the domain it recieved, while using dhcp, persists on the system
[04:34] <pragmaticenigma> You can try this: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> if that doesn't resolve it... then I wouldn't know where to begin
[04:38] <uncool_> i have already done this. hostnamectl does not report the domain name. the domain name is not in /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts, based on the research i have done, this is systemd-networkd, but i need to know where systemd-networkd is storeing the domain name it recieved during dhcp, when the box was configured to use dhcp previosly
[04:38] <uncool_> the man page for systemd-networkd says /etc/systemd/network/ but that directory is empty
[04:38] <uncool_> and none of the files in /lib/systemd/network/ mention the domain name
[04:38] <uncool_> it must be cached someplace else
[04:40] <uncool_> i mean, systemd-resolve --status shows domain, but systemd-resolve wont let me change it, it straight denies me
[04:43] <uncool_> fucking systemd
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | uncool_
[04:54] <kr_60642> !Poledra Watt-Evans, Lawrence - [Ethshar 01] - The Misenchanted Sword (v1.0) [htm].rar
[04:55] <pragmaticenigma> !warez | kr_60642
[04:58] <jcotton> does anyhow know from LFD means in "Display control characters except for LFD and TAB using ‘^’ notation and precede characters that have the high bit set with ‘M-’"?
[04:58] <jcotton> from cat's help
[04:58] <jcotton> i assume it means linefeed
[04:58] <pragmaticenigma> jcotton: what is LFD?
[04:59] <jcotton> that's what i'm asking
[04:59] <jcotton> *anyone know what LFD means
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> jcotton: LFD is for line feed
[04:59] <jcotton> figured
[05:00] <jcotton> usually i see it as just lF
[05:00] <jcotton> *LF
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> LFD is from when control characters all used 3 character notations.. like NUL
[05:01] <jcotton> ah
[05:05] <chalcedny> my husband has libre office on ubuntu 16.04. he keeps some documents in writer. one of them has somehow spawned a chart that he doesn't want and doesn't know how to get rid of. Help?
[05:12] <k0nichiwa> i need to circumvent a firewall preventing me from ssh to my ubuntu server
[05:12] <k0nichiwa> my current plan ... disavble apache on my ubuntu server and conficure sshd to use port 80 in addition to poert 22
[05:13] <k0nichiwa> is there some way to get ssh to foreward a different port on the server, say 22210, to port 22 , and i could ssh in from my laptop using ssh -p 22210 ?
[05:13] <k0nichiwa> the firewall may block 22210 also
[05:14] <pragmaticenigma> k0nichiwa: that depends on where the file wall is, if it is at the ISP, there really isn't much you can do, and I'd be surprised if the ISP isn't blocking port 80
[05:18] <k0nichiwa> im on a public wifi
[05:18] <k0nichiwa> it allows port 80 connections outward of course
[05:18] <k0nichiwa> but it blocking ssh ie port 22 connections outward
[05:19] <k0nichiwa> so i guess ill try using port 80 on my ubuntu server, have sshd listen on that as well
[05:19] <k0nichiwa> but i was just wondering if there is a way to do it with changing as few config files as possible
[05:19] <k0nichiwa> if the wifi firewall allows say some random port i could do it with a tunnel maybe
[05:19] <k0nichiwa> as it is, i will have to disable apache on the ubutnu server since its using port 80
[05:20] <k0nichiwa> but ive read a few attempts to explain ssh port forewarding and tunneling and i reallyd ont understand them
[05:20] <k0nichiwa> so apart rom all that ...is there areally good, precise, clear explanation of using ssh for poert forewarding and tunneling etc ?
[05:22] <ceibal> hola
[05:31] <en1gmaa> Dell Precision M4800 runnung Ubuntu 18.04.2 x86_64 Desktop and am only getting 22MBs when using my full size SandDisk SDCARD in the (MMC) Slot? anyhow if i take that same card and plug it into a usb 3.0 adapter that has alot of connections on the end like the full size SDCARD im only getting 22MBs with then it will get over 80MBs
[05:32] <en1gmaa> can someone help with this? btw i just did a fresh install of 18.04.2 so it is really basically factory default except i install hexchat
[05:33] <pragmaticenigma> en1gmaa: The card readers are on a slower bus than the USB 3.0
[05:34] <en1gmaa> pragmaticenigma i dont think so. i read it was a bios setting and disabling legacy usb or something
[05:34] <en1gmaa> i was hoping there was a for sure way to test as if i set that setting than i dont think i will be able to boot from usb
[05:36] <pragmaticenigma> en1gmaa: Why wouldn't you computer be able to boot from USB? It's more rare that computers allow booting from the memory card readers
[05:37] <en1gmaa> to my understanding it when legacy usb is disabled.
[05:37] <en1gmaa> i think i will do a little testing. brb
[05:52] <lystra> I am trying to install ubuntu-18.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso on an Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS system with KVM. I created a VM, like I've done with older Ubuntu releases, and booted from the ISO. I selected all of the defaults and received the following error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WFGBBWXHKq/. Any ideas?
[05:55] <pragmaticenigma> lystra: Can you elborate on what you mean by selected all of the defaults?
[05:58] <lystra> pragmaticenigma: I hit return throughout the installation process. The only time I used the up/down arrow keys were when I confirmed the destructive action of wiping the entire disk.
[05:59] <pragmaticenigma> lystra: well one problem I see is that you are using the 18.04 iso when you appear to want to install 16.04
[06:00] <lystra> pragmaticenigma: The guest VM should be 18.04, the latest Ubuntu LTS release but the host is running 16.04. I haven't had time to upgrade the host to 18.04 yet.
[06:01] <pragmaticenigma> lystra: oh... I misread
[06:02] <pragmaticenigma> lystra: i can't be certain why it failed at that step. only thing I can think of is to try again
[06:02] <lystra> pragmaticenigma: I tried changing from DHCP->static IP in the installation process and changing the LVM configuration, both of which caused a different type of failure. But, things scroll by so quickly.
[06:02] <lystra> pragmaticenigma: Ok, thanks. I've tried a few times already. I'll keep plugging away.
[06:04] <pragmaticenigma> failing that, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-server ... at the moment, most of the volunteers that are active here are based in North America (presently middle of the night here) ... you may want to try again during a week day around 1700 UTC
[06:04] <lystra> pragmaticenigma: Thanks.
[06:06] <NorthwestVegan> thats a strange error lystra
[06:14] <lystra> NorthwestVegan: Yep.
[06:14] <lystra> Looked at my KVM config and CPU was set to "Westmere". Changed that to "Hypervisor Default" and installation is going.
[06:14] <NorthwestVegan> does the desktop installer work ok?
[06:14] <NorthwestVegan> oh cool
[06:15] <lystra> Couldn't change the IP from DHCP->Static through. Installer automatically restarted so just selecting the defaults. But, gonna try a reinstall with a different LVM config. Hopefully that works.
[06:16] <NorthwestVegan> you should be able to change the ip settings after it installs
[06:17] <lystra> Yeah, but redoing LVM is not as easy.
[06:18] <NorthwestVegan> yeah
[07:32] <lavid> hi all! I'm having some trouble with my headless ubuntu desktop audio. i think it's a permissions issue since i can play mp3s just fine when i'm superuser, but i just get crackling/distortion when i try to play them as my user. thanks in advance.
[08:06] <ducasse> lavid: have you tried creating a new user and testing as that?
[08:08] <lavid> ducasse: the end goal is to get mopidy working. oddly enough, it works fine as users: root, mopidy but it doesn't work as my user (the one created by default with the ubuntu installer)
[08:09] <ducasse> lavid: that makes it sound like a user configuration issue
[08:10] <lavid> ducasse: i haven't done much user configuring outside of trying to get mopidy working. so i'm not sure where i should be looking
[08:12] <ducasse> lavid: first do as i suggested and create a new user to test as, to confirm or disprove.
[08:13] <lavid> ducasse: when i try and create a new user (haven't added any groups or permissions, just `adduser testinguser`) i get the following: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 1001), but by uid 1000! (This could e g happen if you try to connect to a non-root PulseAudio as a root user, over the native protocol. Don't do that.)
[08:15] <ducasse> lavid: how did you switch to that user?
[08:15] <lavid> su testinguser
[08:15] <lavid> ducasse: su testinguser
[08:15] <ducasse> don't do that, log in as it
[08:17] <lavid> ducasse: got it. so when i do that, i hear silence. when i try to see if i need to unmute something alsamixer gives: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[08:21] <ducasse> hmmm, try 'alsamixer -c 1'
[08:22] <lavid> ducasse: invalid card index: 1
[08:24] <ducasse> sorry, this is out of my paygrade, i don't deal much with sound. hang around and see if someone else can help.
[08:24] <lavid> ducasse: all good. thanks for trying
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> lavid: system up to date?
[08:27] <lavid> lotuspsychje: this is a brand new install of 18.10 and yes, it's all up to date as of the past 24 hours. i'll update it now though just to rule that out
[08:27] <lavid> FWIW when i created that new test user, this is the output of pacmd list-sinks 1 sink(s) available.   * index: 0 	name: <auto_null>
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> lavid: is it correct you never had sound working on this new install then?
[08:28] <lavid> lotuspsychje: not exactly. i can play music as root
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> thats some weird issue
[08:29] <lavid> lotuspsychje:  sudo mpg123 /var/lib/mopidy/media/Mingus/*
[08:29] <lavid> that works great
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> lavid: did you try other playing methods?
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> lavid: wich DE are you on?
[08:33] <lavid> lotuspsychje: i played some flac files. too. this is a headless install
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> lavid: but you running ubuntu desktop right
[08:33] <lavid> lotuspsychje: yes, that's the distro
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> lavid: try playing something with vlc or cvlc perhaps?
[08:44] <lavid> lotuspsychje: i feel like i'm missing something with the vlc command line: cvlc ./01\ -\ II\ B.S..mp3  VLC media player 3.0.4 Vetinari (revision 3.0.4-0-gf615db6332)
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> lavid: cvlc '/path/to/my.mp3' should work
[08:54] <lavid> lotuspsychje: doesn't seem to. i think i'm just going to nuke this install and try again with 18.04.2
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> lavid: can you provide us more details how you made desktop, headless?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> lavid: maybe thats where it goes wrong
[08:55] <lavid> lotuspsychje: i just don't log into a DE.
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> lavid: yeah i understand that part, but normal desktop goes to gdm3 so how did you do it exactly?
[08:58] <lavid> lotuspsychje: i'm just gdm3 loads, but there's no monitor connected.
[08:59] <lavid> lotuspsychje: *i'm sure gdm3 loads, i meant to say
[09:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:27] <AlwaysInTime> After rebooting my ubuntu 18.04 (on a VM), the internet is not working. How do I fix this?
[09:42] <Tankburn> I guess starting with ifconfig would be your best bet
[10:04] <neure> hi
[10:05] <neure> I am looking for something which can show what networkd ports are being used by which processes
[10:06] <blackflow> neure: ss -4lnp
[10:08] <neure> thanks!
[10:08] <blackflow> neure: use just -p for a more comprehensive list of sockets in use, the above are only -l ones
[10:09] <blackflow> (you'll need root to see processes you don't own)
[10:17] <Peppep> So. I'm about to upgrade to 19.04 instead of cramming for the midterm tomorrow. Go me!
[10:24] <BluesKaj> Peppep, 19.04 here as well, no issues on my set up so far, but I'm on KDE/Plasma. Your experience may be different. Keeping a stable version like 18.04 as a backup OS is recommended
[10:26] <blackflow> 19.04 Dancing Doggo
[10:29] <Peppep> BluesKaj: I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, so I still have Win10 dual-boot as a backup.
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Peppep, hmm, W10 isn't a backup...an alternative, maybe :-)
[10:30] <Peppep> I was considering reinstalling 18.10 in any case, since I blindly tried fixing things with multiple solutions for the same problem during my first Ubuntu weeks
[10:30] <Peppep> It's a backup to be able to work for the rest of the day ;)
[10:31]  * BluesKaj shrugs .....
[10:34] <Peppep> I'm not sure if we're discussing semantics, Linux vs Win or something else. I was sceptical about the move tbh, but after a month I've booted W10 once
[10:36] <BluesKaj> Peppep, once you become accustomed to Linux, you'll find yourself booting into W10 less and less. :-)
[10:38] <Peppep> The one time so far was just to check that nothing went wrong during the Ubuntu install, and I haven't booted it since then. So the frequency can't get much lower ;)
[10:39] <Peppep> Re 19.04, does the current "do-release-upgrade -d" build give me GNOME 3.32 but not kernel 5.0?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> :-)
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Peppep, the most recent 19,04 daily build should contain the <IP_ADDRESS> generic
[10:43] <ipraytothee> Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER.  Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)
[10:43] <ipraytothee> Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER.  Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)
[10:48] <cuma> Türk olan birileri yok mu burada
[10:56] <BluesKaj> cuma, wrong chat
[10:57] <cuma> my voice problem continues
[10:58] <cuma> my psychology is broken
[11:37] <Jantz> Hello am currently in the process of installing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS but am having some difficulty, have the ISO on a usb and is plugged in but keep getting a 'reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key' have done a little tinkering in the bios to try and get it to boot properly from the usb am coming from a previously installed Windows 10 setup which I suspect had an amd driver conf
[11:38] <guiverc> Jantz, how did you write it to the USB - it needs to be expanded from the iso file to make it bootable
[11:39] <nicofs> Is there someone who can help me get my Netplan going? I only get DHCP running after explicitly using "sudo dhclient"; there is no IPv4 retrieved automatically.
[11:40] <Jantz> guiverc ok i just downloaded it on a Chromebook do you know if i can expand on it?
[11:42] <Jantz> So just open it yeah?
[11:42] <guiverc> Jantz, https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#0    I just `dd` the iso to thumb drives myself, https://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal may be helpful
[11:44] <guiverc> Jantz, eg. my last dd write command of iso is `sudo dd if=/..path../disco-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M && sync`
[11:47] <BluesKaj> nicofs, using network-manager? . netplan yami should show: renderer: NetworkManager
[11:49] <nicofs> @BluesKaj but where?
[11:50] <Jantz> guiverc so there's an expansion process i need to do before it can be bootable yeah? And you don't know if i can do this on a Chromebook? The last thing i want to do is install Ubuntu on my mum's Chromebook so I'm being cautious
[11:50] <BluesKaj> nicofs, /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml
[11:50] <Jantz> I haven't done any sudo stuff before
[11:51] <guiverc> Jantz, i don't know chromebooks; I used the `dd` example as I'm hoping you may have that command (it's a generic *nix command many decades old)
[11:52] <Jantz> Yeah I'm on a phone right now pc is dead
[11:52] <nicofs> BluesKaj, what yamls should I have in that folder? Currently it's 50-cloud-init, 99_config - now I add 01-network-manager-all to be on the safe side? I haven't yet figured out how this works. Is there a set of must-have files or is the content important and I can name it how I desire as long as it's proper...
[11:57] <BluesKaj> nicofs I have only one yami script:  network:   version: 2 renderer: NetworkManager
[11:57] <tomreyn> Jantz: to gte this right: your intention is to create a bootable usb stick on a chromebook, to be used for booting some other computer - correct?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> nicofs, using ethernet here, not wifi
[11:59] <Jantz> tomreyn correct, I've downloaded the 18.04 LTS iso file to a usb but don't know what to do further
[12:00] <nicofs> BluesKaj, I'm using ethernet and both my scripts use "NetworkManager". Every time I use "Netplan apply" my IPv4 (and thus my Internet) disappears.
[12:00] <ynick> hi
[12:03] <BluesKaj> nicofs, never used  "netplan apply", it should auto link to network-manager without having to enable it
[12:04] <nicofs> BluesKaj, what else should I do? I can't run dhclient every time I start the pc
[12:06] <BluesKaj> nicofs, did you edit netplan yami on someone's suggestion, or is this "50-cloud-init, 99_config -", default in your version?
[12:07] <nicofs> BluesKaj, 99_config came as default, the other one I fashioned according to a suggestion
[12:08] <BluesKaj> which other one?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> nicofs,^
[12:10] <dff> anyone here an ace at devilspie by chance?
[12:15] <igoryonya> Hello, I have an ubuntu server 18.04 LTS. It has one problem on cli.
[12:15] <igoryonya> Often the command output doesn't move the previous contents up, but owerwrite it partially and partially moving it up
[12:15] <igoryonya> , so it all get's mixed up and pretty much unreadable.
[12:16] <igoryonya> I have other installations on other computers, but they don't have a such problem
[12:16] <igoryonya> How to fix it?
[12:16] <dff> which terminal emulator are you using to connect to your server
[12:16] <dff> and from which OS
[12:18] <acresearch> people, i am on ubuntu 18.10, i am trying to downgrade the kernel to linux 2.6.32 (long story as to why), these are the commands i will be using,    are they correct?  https://hastebin.com/pufehabine.cs    it is my first time doing anything with a kernel
[12:18] <acresearch> if someone can assist me, i would be greatful
[12:20] <tomreyn> Jantz: sorry, got busy elsewhere. so you should download the iso to some storage, maybe the default storage for the chromebook (i don't really know how chromebooks work), and then use a special software to write this isop file to a usb stick.
[12:20] <igoryonya> dff, any, i.e.: from other ubuntu server, yaguake, xterm, terminator, and locally on the server itself.
[12:20] <tomreyn> Jantz: does the chromebook provide a shell?
[12:21] <igoryonya> dff, usually, if by ssh, I connect from 18.04 server/desktop, 16.04 server/desktop
[12:21] <Jantz> tomreyn i don't think so
[12:23] <tomreyn> Jantz: ctrl-alt-t should bring one up apparently
[12:23] <nicofs> BluesKaj, as far as I understand, the name of the config file is not important. I decided to remove one - so there is only one left. Renderer is "NetworkManager", reboot -> no IPv4.
[12:24] <dff> igoryonya: have you tried another shell than bash on the server?
[12:25] <dff> zsh or something
[12:25] <OerHeks> acresearch, 18.10 and kernel 2.6.x ?? really, even if it is a long story; no, i guess you will fail
[12:25] <dff> terminology a bit off, but you get my meaning
[12:26] <acresearch> OerHeks: why?
[12:26] <tanja77> how can I "roll back" nvidia drivers, lets say from 418 to 410 ?
[12:26] <dff> probably because they arent compatible
[12:26] <igoryonya> dff, I didn't, just the default install, but 18.04 server on other computers, don't have that problem.
[12:26] <OerHeks> acresearch, because it is a very old kernel, and dependencies will not match.. but sure try it, make sure you have a backup of your important files
[12:26] <dff> igoryonya: trying zsh to see if it has the same behavior could narrow down the problem
[12:27] <OerHeks> it is not supported here, so you are on your own
[12:27] <acresearch> OerHeks: i have a new computer, so no files.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> nicofs, run dhclient, it should stick on a reboot
[12:27] <igoryonya> dff, do you know, how to zsh on ssh session?
[12:27] <igoryonya> or I can just run zsh after sshing to it?
[12:28] <dff> that's what i would try
[12:28] <nicofs> BluesKaj, it doesn't. I have been rebooting for the past 4 hours. After each reboot I am back to no IPv4. Only manually running dhclient afterwards fixes the issue...
[12:28] <Jantz> tomreyn: you are correct, I'm guessing your suggesting i do some shell stuff to get the iso file or contents in a desired state,   i wouldn't have the fuzziest clue, is there a function or type of thing i should be googling?  I'm not real familiar with gnome so maybe someone else can help you with that
[12:32] <tomreyn> Jantz: or maybe try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAAcQVJxfPk
[12:33] <nicofs> BluesKaj, I added dhclient to cron (my effort to have dhclient at start) - that didn't help. I'm on xfce anyway.
[12:33] <tomreyn> Jantz: ... i.e. use the "Chromebook Recovery Utility"
[12:34] <BluesKaj> nicofs, not sure but don't crons time out after a bit
[12:34] <tomreyn> Jantz: here'S the shell approach i discussed above: https://askubuntu.com/questions/278403/how-do-you-make-usb-bootable-on-chromebook
[12:35] <nicofs> BluesKaj, I don't know. The cron job was yet another suggestion I found that worked for someone else with the same issue
[12:35] <tanja77> I have an nvidia gtx 1050ti with driver version 418, but I cannot get opencl support under 18.04, although I installed ocl-icd-libopencl1
[12:35] <tanja77> what else can I do?
[12:39] <tomreyn> tanja77: maybe the source of your driver also provides a nvidia-opencl-icd-418 package?
[12:42] <bandecc> hello can sb tell me how share or sync the newly installed fonts with all programs 'case only sees in office?
[12:43] <bandecc> bionic weaver
[12:43] <tanja77> Hi. When I apt install nvidia-opencl and let the bash completion show me the available packages, it shows me just older ones:
[12:43] <tanja77> http://i.imgur.com/ANC3fbY.png
[12:44] <OerHeks> bandecc, if you added fonts, run: sudo fc-cache -f -v >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[12:44] <tanja77> before one week, ocl-icd-libopencl1 workes for me. Must have been because of an ubuntu update. But dont know how to figure that out.
[12:45] <bandecc> thank you the help OerHeks
[12:45] <tomreyn> hey nicofs: you say you run xfce on a computer which does bring up its ethernet (not wireless) network link up on boot but doesn't get an ip address via dhcp, right?
[12:47] <nicofs> tomreyn, yes. And prior to 18.04 (and I guess netplan) it worked...
[12:48] <ubuntu> hi
[12:48] <tanja77> can I change between installed nvidia driver versions? lets say from 418 to 410 ?
[12:48] <tomreyn> nicofs: which ubuntu version do you have now?
[12:48] <ubuntu> !14.04.6
[12:48] <Guest60869> !14.04
[12:49] <nicofs> tomreyn, 18.04 LTS
[12:49] <tomreyn> nicofs: is there a reason you do not want to use network manager and its GUI to manage your internet connection?
[12:50] <nicofs> tomreyn, I'd love to just use the little icon in the bar. It just doesn't work
[12:50] <tomreyn> nicofs: can you be more specific on "doies not work"?
[12:50] <tomreyn> * "doesn't work"
[12:51] <nicofs> tomreyn, i don't get any IPv4 unless i manually run "sudo dhclient" in a shell
[12:52] <tomreyn> nicofs: do you have router which is supposed to hand out an ip address to your computer using dhcp?
[12:52] <tomreyn> * have a router
[12:52] <nicofs> tomreyn, my guess is that the update from 16.04 to 18.04 (and the change to netplan that came with it) botched a config file. I just can't figure out which.
[12:53] <nicofs> tomreyn, my router works well for all other devices in the network. and did work well for the device in question prior to 18.04
[12:53] <tomreyn> nicofs: there was no "change to netplan" during a desktop upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.
[12:54] <nicofs> tomreyn, ok - then I am mistaken. That was what I read. Nevertheless there was some change somewhere.
[12:54] <nicofs> (And it ruined DHCP)
[12:54] <tomreyn> nicofs: how did you install ubuntu initially?
[12:54] <tomreyn> which ISO did you use, do you remember?
[12:55] <Guest60869> Ubuntu 14.04.6 HDMI Support?
[12:55] <nicofs> tomreyn, it started out as a 14.04. image flashed onto the device
[12:55] <tomreyn> nicofs: do you have a file /var/log/installer/media-info ?
[12:56] <Peppep> I just tried upgrading to 19.04. Now I'm stuck at the login screen, after entering the password, it seems to be working for a second, then I'm back at the login screen. I tried booting with the 4.18 (or 4.19?) kernel instead of 5.0, but it didn't help. Any troubleshooting tips?
[12:56] <tomreyn> nicofs: oh you started with an image, that's an unusual way to install. is this special hardware then?
[12:56] <Peppep> I managed to get to tty3 and connect weechat
[12:56] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | Peppep
[12:56] <Peppep> Thanks tomreyn
[12:57] <nicofs> tomreyn, I don't have that file. It's an ARM single-board-pc (Odroid u3)
[12:57] <Guest60869> !ubuntu+1
[12:58] <tomreyn> Guest60869: you can talk to ubottu directly if you want to test triggers. or search for factoids on http://ubottu.com
[12:58] <tomreyn> i.e. please don't do it here
[12:58] <OerHeks> Guest, sure 14.04.x gives hdmi support
[12:58] <tomreyn> nicofs: okay, please be sure to mention it when you run a port.
[12:59] <OerHeks> Guest, you don't want to install an ubuntu version that ends in a month, download 16.04 lts  or 18.04 lts
[13:00] <tomreyn> nicofs: so you have the network manager applet, right? you can install xubuntu-desktop to ensure you have all packages installed which are needed to run the full desktop.
[13:00] <Guest60869> ok
[13:00] <Guest60869> thx for helping guys
[13:02] <nicofs> tomreyn, I have xubuntu-desktop, I have the applet, I can use it. It's just that whatever I set up there, I dont get IPv4 (I check via ifconfig)
[13:02] <tomreyn> !releasenotes | nicofs
[13:03] <tomreyn> things have changed in 18.04, you should read up on network management there.
[13:03] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Network_configuration
[13:05] <tomreyn> nicofs: once you read this, i recommend you review your logs to get a better understanding of why network-manager fails to get an ip address assigned to the interface when it brings up the network interface.
[13:07] <tomreyn> nicofs: you can review the full log since the latest boot (journalctl -b) or just the warnings and errors logged since booting (journalctl -b -p4). to share those outputs, you can piupe them into pastebinit (both a command and a package which needs to be installed initially) or into "nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:08] <eraserpencil> I cant seem to get nvidia-smi binary after installing the proprietary drivers
[13:10] <code1> I'm planning to move to Ubuntu from Windows and I have a 256 ssd drive. How should I partition it for Ubuntu 18.04?
[13:11] <code1> Does it still need a swap partition and should I have an ntfs partition for my windows stuff?
[13:12] <code1> Not looking to duel boot but thinking of using Windows in a VM for anything Windows only.
[13:12] <steve__> swap partition is not needed anymore, ubuntu makes a swap file
[13:13] <nicofs> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/1NNhtVJp - but I don't see any network related info there
[13:13] <code1> steve__: ok so is the typical setup just one partition?
[13:14] <steve__> depends what you mean with "windows stuff", if that means files that can be opened in open source software like pictures, videos, other media, office files that can be opened in libreoffice ets... then a ntfs partition is not needed
[13:14] <tomreyn> code1: if youi'll run a windows VM under ubuntu you most likel ywant this windows stored on the standard ubuntu file system. so far what you said just sounds like a ver ystandard installation, so you can just use the graphical installer with defaults, optionally adding lvm and encryption.
[13:15] <tomreyn> code1: typical setup is just one partition, yes. you *may* prefer a separate /home, but this could still be modified later if you do lvm.
[13:15] <tomreyn> (with some effort)
[13:16] <code1> ok thanks
[13:16] <tomreyn> nicofs: hah you are on a 3.8 13 kernel
[13:16] <steve__> if you still need to work with windows files, for example on your work, you can always use a memory stick that is formatted in fat32 format
[13:17] <tomreyn> nicofs: you should really consider a fresh installation there
[13:17] <code1> I guess if I run Windows in a VM on Ubuntu the VM will create an ntfs partition within the Ubuntu fs right?
[13:17] <code1> in a file I mean
[13:17] <nicofs> tomreyn, I am painfully aware of that. Sadly I lack the ability to fashion one for this device.
[13:18] <tomreyn> code1: yes, in a file, which is then presented to the windows VM as a hard disk. it will create everything it does inside this file.
[13:19] <code1> tomreyn: ok. Is a separate home partition the best way to go?
[13:21] <tomreyn> code1: personally, i think a separate home file system (on lvm) is ideal for a desktop. but that's mostly so you can reinstall the OS easily later, without having to restore /home froma backup. YMMV.
[13:21] <code1> I want to make backing up as straight forward as possible. In linux is it enough to just backup the home directory if a system reinstall is required?
[13:22] <en1gma> im on ubuntu 18.04.2 amd64 Desktop using my laptop. i have a sandisk full size sdcard that only is getting about 20MB/s but if i plug that same card into my usb 3.0 adapter i get 80MB/s
[13:22] <en1gma> what is going on?
[13:22] <code1> tomreyn: that's sounds like want I want, do you have link on further reading, I'm going to lookup lvm now
[13:22] <tomreyn> nicofs: if you have a separate computer, you should be able to just download an existing disk image and write this to your sdcard.
[13:23] <steve__> en1gma, probably because the regular sd card reader has usb 2.0 support, and your seperate card reader usb 3.0
[13:23] <en1gma> steve__ how can i tell how the mmc is usb 2.0 or usb 3.0?
[13:23] <tomreyn> !ports | nicofs
[13:24] <tomreyn> ^ ignore
[13:24] <steve__> just by doing a speed test on the card with gnome disks
[13:24] <nicofs> tomreyn, the only existing image is 16.04. That I can install and then upgrade to 18.04 - that would be a long way to quite possibly reproduce the issue I'm currently having
[13:25] <en1gma> steve__ that dont tell me if its working as it should
[13:25] <steve__> if you get about 20MB/sec then it is usb 2.0, if you get more, it's usb 3.0
[13:26] <en1gma> oh crap. no way. ok can i buy a different mmc module instead of the one i have installed (that is usb 3.0) instead of usb 2.0?
[13:26] <en1gma> i have a dell precision m4800
[13:27] <steve__> can't u just always use your usb 3.0 adapter?
[13:27] <en1gma> not as a boot drive
[13:28] <en1gma> plus i need the usb ports for my dongles
[13:28] <en1gma> the mmc module lets me install ubuntu to full size sdcard or sdcard adapter and its nice and tucked away
[13:28] <steve__> i can use mine as boot drive... well for linux, not for windows afcourse
[13:30] <tomreyn> nicofs: i would feel back about reusing a system which has been running for long with a vulnerable kernel, like yours.
[13:30] <steve__> yeah i know... the "nice and tucked away" is only possible on that laptop ons usb 2.0 speed i'm afraid
[13:30] <tomreyn> nicofs: *feel bad
[13:30] <ilias_gr> hi all
[13:30] <tomreyn> nicofs: if you don't, you can try just installing a current kernel image.
[13:31] <en1gma> steve__ oh man. i did a full wipe off my old 2.5 hdd and did fresh install to that sdcard. crap
[13:31] <en1gma> steve__ ok thanks for your help
[13:31] <tomreyn> nicofs: sudo apt install linux-image-generic and make sure this one will be loaded. how to make sure of this may be device specific on arm
[13:32] <ilias_gr> does any maybe know how can i change panel's battery icon on xubuntu 18.04 ?
[13:34] <nicofs> tomreyn, I just purged ifupdown to eliminate that as causing the issue. It didn't. I am very sure, the problem is a single line of code in a config file somewhere... building a new kernel is very difficult and messy.
[13:35] <nicofs> tomreyn, thank you for your help anyway. I will try to tinker with various config files
[13:35] <en1gma> steve__ i think i will boot into windows and do some speed tests there also. brb
[13:37] <tomreyn> nicofs: good luck. the simple response would have been: not supported here.
[13:38] <tomreyn> nicofs: maybe this helps https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=31765
[13:40] <nicofs> tomreyn, I know. And I am very thankful for support beyond mainstream architecture.
[13:40] <tomreyn> nicofs: ;-) i didn't mean to provoke this, just to make you aware in case you'r enot.
[13:45] <nicofs> tomreyn, I am aware of my ARM quirks since 2008 ;) - but sometimes (not always) even an issue on an ARM device can be generic and not rooted in the architecture. (And I still believe this is the case this time...)
[13:47] <tomreyn> nicofs: much of the user space you have there will depends on newer kernel ABIs than what a kernel from some years ago will provide. it is well possible that this causes this problem (but indeed not certain).
[13:49] <tomreyn> systemd requires linux 3.13 as a minimum
[13:49] <nicofs> tasksel
[13:49] <nicofs> sorry - wrong keyboard
[13:51] <Guest26337> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/776dXwKtpX/
[13:51] <steve__> nicofs, now be careful not to use the wrong mouse :p
[13:52] <OerHeks> !install | Guest26337
[13:52] <nicofs> tomreyn, I estimate that inserting a new kernel has a 80% chance of destroying the system. I'll try solving the network issue with the current setup first. If the new kernel fails afterwards I'll have to start from scratch anyway.
[13:53] <tomreyn> nicofs: from my perspective, this system is destroyed / not ubuntu. we can keep discussing this in #ubuntu-offtopic or -discuss if you like,.
[13:54] <CoolerZ> how do you scroll up in ubuntu 14.04 console only install?
[13:54] <CoolerZ> i thought it was ctrl + arrow key
[13:54] <CoolerZ> but that doesn't work
[13:54] <tomreyn> CoolerZ: shift and PgUp/PgDn. are you aware that this version is almost end of life?
[13:55] <CoolerZ> tomreyn, yes
[13:55] <steve__> CoolerZ, after using ubuntu 14.04 you can upgrade to me, i'm also almost end of life :p
[13:55] <CoolerZ> but that goes up and down by an entire page
[13:56] <CoolerZ> this is a server environment that I don't have much say in
[13:58] <Peppep> I assume the answer is no, but maybe worth a shot - is there an easy way to rollback from 18.10 to 18.04? Or would reinstall be the best option?
[13:59] <OerHeks> Peppep, reinstall it is.
[14:00] <steve__> CoolerZ, can't u use the |less command?
[14:00] <steve__> CoolerZ, also try Shift + Ctrl + Up / Down
[14:00] <tomreyn> CoolerZ: i don't think there is line by line scrolling
[14:05] <arjuncr1> hi, how to get ubuntu official membership ?, any one help ?
[14:05] <jeremy31> arjuncr1: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[14:05] <OerHeks> arjuncr1, read this part https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[14:06] <tomreyn> CoolerZ: well you should still tell the admins that they need to upgrade it to not loose support entitlement.
[14:06] <arjuncr1> thanks
[14:08] <Peppep> OerHeks: Okay, thanks
[14:13] <CoolerZ> tomreyn, yeah there is no line by line scrolling
[14:13] <CoolerZ> thanks
[14:27] <Peppep> I usually disable/enable my Nvidia card from the Nvidia GUI settings, but am unable to boot now. /var/log/gpu-manager.log shows nvidia as blacklisted because it was disabled on my last normal boot, can I re-enable it from tty?
[14:30] <ducasse> Peppep: see if it is blacklisted somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d/
[14:33] <Jantz> tomreyn: i managed to get ubuntu up on screen but my key board all of a sudden is not working is there something i should know?
[14:34] <tomreyn> Jantz: not generally, no.
[14:34] <tomreyn> Jantz: try ctrl-alt-f3 and see if it still works there
[14:35] <Jantz> Yeah nothing
[14:35] <tomreyn> Jantz: what'S the hardware you're trying to install ubuntu on?
[14:36] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you trying to install (sorry if we discussed this before, can't remember)
[14:36] <Jantz> 18.04.02
[14:36] <Jantz> Amd cpu
[14:37] <tomreyn> a desktop system, a laptop,. something else?
[14:37] <Peppep> ducasse: Yup, "nvidiab" is blacklisted in blacklist-framebuffer.conf. I'll try commenting it out, thanks
[14:37] <Jantz> Custom pc
[14:37] <Peppep> nvidiafb*
[14:38] <tomreyn> Jantz: how much ram? which graphics card? how did you create the installer image?
[14:38] <tomreyn> and where does the boot get stuck
[14:40] <Jantz> 16gb ram amd hd7970, i created The installer through Chromebooks recovery media
[14:40] <leftyfb> heh
[14:41] <leftyfb> sounds very non-supported-y to me
[14:41] <Jantz> There was a couple of errors but i ignored them and pushed through an now stuck at who are you page coz dang keyboard not functioning
[14:43] <tomreyn> Jantz: i guess the errors while writing the installer may explain the keyboard issues.
[14:43] <leftyfb> Jantz: might I suggest using your mouse and the onscreen keyboard to download(from ubuntu.com) and flash a new install media using "Startup Disk Creator" that's built into ubuntu and reinstall?
[14:45] <Jantz> leftyfb I'm limited to Chromebook and smartphone
[14:45] <leftyfb> Jantz: why is that? What's wrong with the pc you're on right now?
[14:46] <leftyfb> Jantz: besides the keyboard (use the onscreen keyboard)
[14:47] <Jantz> leftyfb the pc I'm on right now hasnt even been setup can i still use it?
[14:47] <leftyfb> Jantz: oh, you're still in the installer?
[14:48] <Jantz> Yeah
[14:49] <leftyfb> Jantz: ok, if you're getting errors (which you have not specified here and ignored) then you should either try redoing the install media or maybe try the mini installer
[14:49] <Peppep> ducasse: nvidia is still blacklisted after removing "blacklist nvidiafb" from blacklist-framebuffer.conf
[14:50] <Jantz> Yeah will try again
[14:50] <Jantz> What's mini installer?
[14:51] <ducasse> Peppep: you should probably look for 'blacklist nvidia' somewhere
[14:51] <leftyfb> Jantz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:52] <Peppep> ducasse: I did "grep nvidia *" :/ But I'm trying "sudo prime-select nvidia" now
[14:53] <Jantz> Yeah I'll try them all see what happens
[15:01] <code1> if I were to partition a 250gb ssd drive for root and home how much should go to each?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> 20GB for / and rest /home if you keep / clean
[15:04] <code1> also when you install software does it go into the root partition which any settings going into the home partition? So if you need to reinstall the OS you also need to reinstall all software but the settings will remain?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> code, not all , just the non-default apps
[15:04] <BluesKaj> code1, ^
[15:05] <code1> BluesKaj: so things like Firefox, the whole program is installed in /home ?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> set the mountpoint for /home during the install
[15:06] <leftyfb> code1: I would just keep it simple and go with 1 partition. There's not much gain in separating the partitions these days
[15:06] <BluesKaj> no the config files are tho
[15:07] <code1> leftyfb: ok what would I need to keep backed up, just home and on a reinstall just restore home?
[15:07] <code1> BluesKaj: so do you mean non-default apps are installed in /home?
[15:08] <leftyfb> code1: Mostly /home. SOME apps will install settings in /etc, but not much
[15:08] <leftyfb> code1: He's saying you do not need to install the default apps, like firefox. Because obviously they get installed by default.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> code1, the config files are , just need reinstall the non-default packages you added yourself
[15:09] <leftyfb> code1: most applications, regardless if they are installed by default or not save their settings in some hidden directory structure in your home directory
[15:09] <code1> ah ok I see, thanks.
[15:09] <leftyfb> code1: though, when upgrading across new versions of ubuntu, I wouldn't just copy back the entire home directory wholesale. Not all upgraded versions work properly with the old configs, including the desktop settings.
[15:10] <leftyfb> code1: personally, I copy back everything in home that doesn't start with a dot and cherrypick the rest as needed
[15:10] <leftyfb> code1: This also helps with preventing cruft
[15:11] <code1> That makes sense. What is a good backup strategy for Ubuntu?
[15:11] <leftyfb> code1: I haven't liked any of the solutions out there so I wrote my own mainly using rsync
[15:12] <Jantz> Happened to be the wrong Port
[15:13] <leftyfb> !who | Jantz
[15:13] <code1> leftyfb: but the main thing is to keep /home regularly backed up and if the system gets wiped I can easily recover from here?
[15:13] <leftyfb> code1: for the most part, yes
[15:13] <leftyfb> code1: you'll need to reinstall your applications
[15:14] <code1> leftyfb: yep, is there a way to keep a list of apps installed so that you can just fire off one command to reinstall them all?
[15:14] <code1> I'm thinking in terms of python's requirements.txt file
[15:14] <leftyfb> code1: I think people here have made some scripts, but in my testing they haven't always caught everything
[15:15] <leftyfb> code1: There's apt list --installed # but that lists ALL installed packages. Including default and dependencies. So again, cherrypick
[15:15] <ducasse> !info apt-clone | code1
[15:15] <code1> So it's usually a case of reinstall the os, restore /home and then reinstall the apps from memory or as needed?
[15:16] <code1> ubottu: thanks
[15:17] <code1> ubottu: even bots need appreciation :)
[15:18] <code1> leftyfb: it's funny because I think that's the same problem pip has when you try and freeze requirements - it includes all dependencies too
[15:19] <leftyfb> ducasse: I feel that is very dangerous
[15:19] <en1gma> steve__ i am booted into windows and the full size sdcard (32GB class 10) is in the mmc and still only getting 20MB/s O_o
[15:19] <en1gma> crap its usb 2.0??? why did tjhey do that
[15:19] <en1gma> i need that to be usb 3.0
[15:20] <leftyfb> ducasse: Again, that just lists ALL packages that get installed after default. Including deps. Suggesting to just reinstall that list upon upgrading Ubuntu is a bad suggestion
[15:20] <en1gma> do they sell replacements that will fit in there? i think its part of the 54mm express card slot as the mmc is close to it
[15:20] <leftyfb> en1gma: I think you want #windows for suppor
[15:20] <leftyfb> t
[15:20] <en1gma> why? it no more a windows problem then it is a ubuntu problem
[15:21] <leftyfb> en1gma: ok, then you want #hardware
[15:21] <en1gma> it would be #dell wouldnt it? :)
[15:21] <steve__> nah, it's #hardware :p you would have this problem with any kind of laptop thats not the newest
[15:22] <c0mrade> I've just created a Facebook Messenger Bot and it got approved by facebook so anyone should be able to see and use it :). I named it "Bot Inc." or @BotInc, when you try to message it you'll see a bunch of commands. I hope you guys can try it :D
[15:22] <tomreyn> !ot | c0mrade
[15:22] <steve__> you would have to replace the whole motherboard with it if i'm not mistaken...
[15:22] <en1gma> yea true. i hadnt seen leftleg had typed #hardware when i was already typing #dell. #hardware sounds more appropiate
[15:23] <en1gma> #bad_engineering
[15:23] <steve__> can't u just use a regular 2.5 hard drive for boot drive?
[15:23] <steve__> ssd are cheap now
[15:23] <en1gma> yea thats actually what i had it on. i had it on a 120GB hdd that hdparm -t -T said i was getting 66MBs so it wasnt too bad but it sure was freaking slow when i was in the os
[15:23] <en1gma> drive light always on
[15:24] <steve__> take a 120GB ssd it will be much faster :p
[15:24] <steve__> how old is that laptop?
[15:24] <en1gma> i wonder if i can use that same 120GB hdd and a 16GB usb 3.0 or maybe even that mmc @ 20MBs and put a swap on there or maybe seperate directories i can put on them at time of install?
[15:25] <en1gma> laptop pretty descent. i think its 2014 but it was high-end
[15:25] <en1gma> 1080P, display port and hdmi and 4 usb 3.0, 1 usb 2.0
[15:25] <steve__> the best way is to buy a cheap 120gb ssd, or 240gb if you need the space
[15:26] <en1gma> yep thats probably true. i was looking at them last night but i bought a 128GB micro sd for $20 for my phone. lol
[15:26] <en1gma> almost got a 120GB kingston ssd. maybe next month
[15:27] <en1gma> i need to do a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04.2 now that i know i cant do it on that mmc with sdcard
[15:27] <en1gma> where i did have it installed
[15:27] <steve__> you where better of by buying an ssd and wait for the micro sd card :p
[15:27] <steve__> i would say... wait with the fresh install until you have an ssd
[15:28] <en1gma> i know but i think i have about 100GB on google somewhere and google is ending some kind of service this april and i not sure if i gonna lose that data so i need to back it up (off the cloud)
[15:28] <steve__> you can back it up on the 128gb sd card till then :p
[15:29] <en1gma> thats true
[15:29] <en1gma> damn it
[15:29] <en1gma> it was late when i ordered and i thought i thought of everything. oooops
[15:29] <steve__> thinking of everything is only possible when you are a night person :p
[15:30] <en1gma> i do have an hdd caddy coming for this laptop. i had been swapping out the hard drives by peeling off the tape that holds it in the side
[15:30] <en1gma> so a caddy will help alot*
[15:30] <en1gma> i was up way past my bedtime :)
[15:30] <steve__> yeah a hdd caddy is very usefull for that
[15:30] <en1gma> brb. dog
[15:31] <buttros> Hello! Gnome Shell Extensions Places and Applications not working in Ubuntu 18.10 . Anyone else with the same problem?
[15:32] <OerHeks> buttros, install gnome-tweak-tool, to get access to gnome shell extentions
[15:32] <OerHeks> after install, logout/login and have fun
[15:33] <buttros> OerHeks: I already did all that. Their not working...
[15:33] <steve__> well he said have fun with it, not work with it :p
[15:33] <OerHeks> buttros, define not working?
[15:35] <buttros> OerHeks: Places extensions does not get installed at all, Applications extension gets installed but when you click on it, nothing happens...
[15:36] <buttros> steve_: lol
[15:37] <OerHeks> buttros, oh, it will work, you have to activate "hot corners" with gnome-tweak-tools. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032999/ubuntu-18-04-application-menu-not-showing-after-clicking
[15:38] <buttros> OerHeks: I'll try, Thanks!
[15:46] <buttros> OerHeks: It did work! Thanks! Both extensions are working now.
[15:46] <OerHeks> buttros, have fun ( again)
[15:47] <OerHeks> personnally i do not want hot corners, but i have to live with that
[15:47] <buttros> OerHeks: Yes, but that's a minor problem...
[15:54] <pikapika> Well I have concluded that there is definitely something wonky with the fonts in 18.04 that wasn't the case in 16.04
[15:54] <pikapika> The bug reports prove that I am not alone in thinking so
[15:55] <pikapika> Here's to hoping they fix this bug as fast they can
[15:55] <OerHeks> pikapika, yes, you said that yesterday too
[15:55] <pikapika> I was going through the confusion of the five stages
[15:55] <pikapika> at that time
[15:56] <pikapika> I have reached full clarity right now
[15:56] <pikapika> And this is the conclusion I put forward for now
[15:56] <pikapika> Anyways, hope its fixed soon
[15:58] <tomreyn> with this approach, it comes down to religious hoping. your deity may or may not grant your wish.
[15:59] <pikapika> I mean I am not expert enough to fix the problem myself, so its the same thing
[15:59] <tomreyn> you may want to try to actually identify the essence of the issue, and file a bug instead (after searching for existing bug reports for this ubuntu release), which may significantly improve your chances of seeing a fix happen.
[16:00] <tomreyn> i see
[16:00] <pikapika> I am quite sure its that freetype thing
[16:00] <pikapika> that I linked above
[16:00] <pikapika> As in, yes, I have seen a bug report already filed and marked High priority
[16:02] <pikapika> also
[16:02] <pikapika> did a lot of apps switch to gtk3 in this version?
[16:02] <pikapika> I believe that could be the cause of my theme breakage
[16:03] <pikapika> Because the "standard" themes work alright for me, which I assume are carefully designed to work well on both gtk2 and 3
[16:03] <pikapika> I wish there was a modern dark version of one of these standard themes
[16:03] <pikapika> Or perhaps
[16:03] <pikapika> I could start with the Adwaita base and start modifying things myself
[16:04] <MTech> Hello
[16:05] <Guest88695> ok i put a (4GB sdcard into the mmc) i have (2) 32GB sdcards in a usb 3.0 sdcard adapter thing (usb corded)
[16:05] <Guest88695> can i put the two 32GB sdcards in a RAID0?
[16:05] <MTech> yes
[16:05] <MTech> itmight be slow though
[16:05] <Guest88695> this sounds fun
[16:05] <OerHeks> you can, as you can make a raid out of usb-floppydrives..
[16:06] <Guest88695> the sdcards get around 80MBs read
[16:06] <OerHeks> but speed, will be horrible...
[16:06] <Guest88695> each
[16:06] <MTech> who uses floppy drives?
[16:06] <Guest88695> ahhh true. i used to use 'dmraid'
[16:06] <pikapika> Where is the Window Manager theming data stored?
[16:07] <pikapika> Same as the themes/.themes subfolder which is used for theming widgets?
[16:07] <MTech> what device are you using
[16:07] <Guest88695> so what would be the best way to split the filesystem split up? i only want the smallest part that dont get used very much on the 4GB and maybe the rest swap?
[16:07] <Guest88695> 20MB/s swap # 3GB?
[16:08] <OerHeks> locate theme > /usr/share/themes/ perhaps?
[16:08] <pikapika> Yeah that was the folder I was speaking of
[16:08] <pikapika> But since WM theme selection is shown from a different settings window, I was wondering is it saved in a diff place or is it part of the same themes folder?
[16:08] <MTech> what device is everyone using?
[16:09] <MTech> i'm using odroid xu4 with ubuntu
[16:09] <OerHeks> MTech, this is technical support, wrong place to poll
[16:13] <pikapika> Is the next lts gonna be 19 or 20 btw?
[16:13] <CookieM> the latter
[16:17] <pikapika> I mean
[16:17] <pikapika> WM theme and widget theme can be different is what I am saying
[16:17] <pikapika> I chose wm theme different from widget theme
[16:17] <pikapika> So I was thinking where is the unified configs for my present state/
[16:19] <qwebirc24192> Hi, got a login loop. Enter correct password, loops.
[16:20] <qwebirc24192> it's 16.04 LTS. did not install or do much of anything last session.
[16:20] <pikapika> huh
[16:21] <pikapika> apparently its the metacity directory I need to look into
[16:23] <ioria> qwebirc24192, can you open a console (ctrl+alt+fx) ?
[16:25] <qwebirc82886> sorry, got disconnected
[16:26] <qwebirc82886> got a good wifi link now.  You wanted actual $USER, not my username right?
[16:36] <pikapika> its based on a bunch of images
[16:36] <pikapika> So I'll have to resize the images
[16:37] <ioria> qwebirc82886,   you user you're loggin in
[16:38] <ioria> qwebirc82886, ls -al /home/youruser   | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:38] <tomreyn> this will disclose the name of the files in your home directory
[16:39] <OerHeks> $USER is technically the current username, good for scripting
[16:40] <ioria> qwebirc82886, or run    ls -al | grep root
[16:41] <tomreyn> phoenix_firebrd_: could you please disable nickname switching (at this rate) while you're in #ubuntu ? thanks.
[16:43] <pikapika> I did it tomreyn!
[16:44] <pikapika> Edited a bunch of xpm files with a text editor to change the sizes, and to scale the designs manually where necessary
[16:44] <pikapika> And now I have think titlebars :)
[16:44] <pikapika> *thin
[16:48] <pikapika> Next task is to modify the widget theme
[16:51] <murthy> tomreyn: sorry
[16:51] <murthy> tomreyn: Dont know how to do that
[16:52] <murthy> tomreyn: I am using Konversation
[16:52] <qwebirc41669> Hello I want to install ubuntu on a 32 bit pc
[16:52] <tomreyn> murthy: you have probably configured it to change your nickname when you're away. just don't do that. you can use /away
[16:53] <qwebirc41669> I need help
[16:53] <tomreyn> qwebirc41669: won't be supported much longer, but so far you can use any flavor but the default one.
[16:53] <tomreyn> !flavors | qwebirc41669
[16:53] <OerHeks> qwebirc<numvber>  download xubuntu and have fun
[16:57] <pikapika> I seem to have been able to reduce the menu padding as well now
[16:57] <pikapika> Now to change colors
[16:58] <OerHeks> pikapika, why should we read monoloques?
[16:58] <pikapika> Oh lol sorry
[16:58] <pikapika> I just got a bit happy I was able to take a concrete step towards solving this theming annoyance
[16:59] <tomreyn> it's nice that you're happy, just keep in mind this very channel )there are others) is reall yjust for support questiosn and answers.
[16:59] <tomreyn> ideally with fewer typos.
[17:00] <murthy> tomreyn: I haven't configured it to change my nickname when I am away, I had added two nick earlier and I have removed one just now, hope that works
[17:00] <tomreyn> thanks.
[17:08] <LordDoskias> i have an ubuntu 18.04 with 2 monitors. one of them is inverted by 90 degrees however after restart i cannot seem to be able to utilize the upper quarter of the desktop when i try to move icons
[17:08] <LordDoskias> but only on that monitors
[17:37] <Joe_from_next_do> Hi! I am not seeing the option for a minimal install in the desktop installer.
[17:37] <Joe_from_next_do> Is that removed in 1904?
[17:38] <compdoc> I like that option
[17:38] <Joe_from_next_do> Same! Maybe I just missed it
[17:39] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | Joe_from_next_do
[17:44] <rwp> Ubuntu 18.04 fresh install, Settings, Power, Power Saving, Blank screen, defaults to 5 minutes. Trying to change it to 15 minutes. How do I cause it to set? There is no Submit button??
[17:46] <OerHeks> rwp, adjust it, and that will do, there is no apply button indeed
[17:47] <unimatrix9> hello everyone
[17:50] <unimatrix9> the value s written to /etc/resolv.conf  ( network ) where is it set ? any idea ?
[17:50] <unimatrix9> 18.04 lts
[17:53] <jeremy31> unimatrix9:  it should be nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and options edns0 in that file for most users
[17:54] <murthy> unimatrix9: hi
[17:54] <unimatrix9> jeremy31, i know, but is there a gui where you set it ?
[17:54] <jeremy31> unimatrix9: You can add additional DNS in Network Manager settings for a connection
[17:56] <unimatrix9> jeremy, not sure, but i need to add search domainname.com
[17:57] <unimatrix9> jeremy would that be the DNS tab ?
[17:58] <jeremy31> unimatrix9: IPv4 or IPv6 tab to add DNS
[17:58] <rwp> OerHeks, Doesn't stick.  I can make the change as many times as I try.  It doesn't take effect.
[17:58] <unimatrix9> jeremy31, thanks i will try it
[17:59] <rwp> OerHeks, After making that change I can click anywhere else, and then come back and the setting changes back to 5 minutes again.
[17:59] <jeremy31> unimatrix9: to add a search, see https://askubuntu.com/a/1082634/300665
[18:01] <dotw> h
[18:02] <unimatrix9> ok
[18:04] <LevierMRQ> Hi. Is there different discussion room depends on version we are using (16.04)?
[18:05] <ducasse> LevierMRQ: only for the development version
[18:05] <ducasse> LevierMRQ: that's in #ubuntu+1
[18:05] <LevierMRQ> ducasse: Thanks.  Totaly answers :)
[18:06] <ducasse> yw :)
[18:07] <LevierMRQ> ducasse: "yw"?  I fear i dont know this abreviation
[18:07] <unimatrix9> networks reset :: thanks for your support ;)
[18:07] <ducasse> LevierMRQ: "you're welcome" :)
[18:07] <LevierMRQ> :D
[18:23] <bjorkintosh> why on earth is it that the powersave options after 15 minutes is 'never'.
[18:23] <bjorkintosh> what if I want 2 hours?
[18:27] <OerHeks> bjorkintosh, let me see, dconf
[18:29] <LevierMRQ> bjorkintosh: I have 1 hour before the "never" on a fresh installed 16.04
[18:30] <bjorkintosh> mine's 19.rightnow.
[18:30] <bjorkintosh> and it doesn't have it.
[18:30] <OerHeks> org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power gives the options
[18:31] <OerHeks> sleep-inactive and such
[18:31] <LevierMRQ> OerHeks: looks convenient... will see.
[18:32] <gemgo_> Hello IRC!
[18:33] <bjorkintosh> hmm. thanks OerHeks. i don't think I've used that before.
[18:33] <OerHeks> you shouldn't :-P
[18:33] <OerHeks> but have fun walking around , lot to explore
[18:35] <bjorkintosh> is there an app for accessing it?
[18:35] <OerHeks> basicly, if you can add values/change it, logout/login to take effect
[18:35] <OerHeks> some options work right away, but no guarantee
[18:36] <tanja77> I cannot get opencl with nvidia drivers 390 although I have installed ocl-icd-libopencl1
[18:36] <tanja77> any idead what else to do?
[18:39] <LevierMRQ> If i look at programs automatically started on logon, I see snap i dont know plus Thunderbird i intentionnaly added.  I didnt try before install ggnome flashback.  Mystified.
[18:42] <christophe_> bonjour à tous
[18:43] <bjorkintosh> LevierMRQ, maybe something else installed it for you.
[18:44] <LevierMRQ> bjorkintosh: This is what i guess.  But i made nothing out of flashback right after a fresh installation.
[18:47] <OerHeks> !find wabbit
[18:48] <gemgo_> Well this first time IRC experience was fun.
[19:20] <Facilmente> hola que tal
[19:21] <EriC^^> !es | Facilmente
[19:22] <Facilmente> gracias
[19:23] <G3MG0_> Hello IRC!
[19:25] <G3MG0_> Not a whole lot going on this channel huh?
[19:26] <leftyfb> G3MG0_: it's a support channel
[19:26] <G3MG0_> ah.
[19:26] <leftyfb> G3MG0_: There's #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[19:26] <G3MG0_> thx
[19:28] <AlwaysInTime> nicof
[19:28] <AlwaysInTime> oops. I was searching for nicofs and to see if he ever found a solution on his problem
[19:29] <Facilmente> estoy ya en el chat en español?
[19:29] <leftyfb> !es | Facilmente
[19:30] <leftyfb> Facilmente: Ya te lo dijeron.
[19:30] <Facilmente> lo siento no se como ponerlo
[19:31] <leftyfb> Facilmente: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:32] <Facilmente> Thank you
[20:00] <carbonzero> is it normal to see a red circle it a line through it, like a sign for "no smoking" without the cigarette in the picture, for a graphic for running on battery power on the lock screen? I'm asking for someone else.
[20:00] <carbonzero> I've directed that persont to here so they may show up and ask the same question.
[20:01] <compdoc> the red circle means no, but dont know what
[20:03] <carbonzero> compdoc: so generally it'd mean that the battery isn't being recognized even though it's running just fine?
[20:03] <carbonzero> compdoc: this question was asked on the ubuntu reddit forum and there's no way to know if they'll answer my question anytime soon.
[20:04] <compdoc> has it always done that
[20:05] <tomreyn> could also mean that the image file wasn't found
[20:06] <compdoc> I was thinking the wrong permissions on the file
[20:06] <tomreyn> or that- or something else entirely. read logs.
[20:06] <compdoc> could be anything
[20:07] <ioria> carbonzero, like this ? https://i.stack.imgur.com/u3VGu.jpg
[20:13] <vimar> Hi
[20:16] <carbonzero> compdoc: not sure. It's not my laptop I'm asking about. Somebody on reddit. I directed them to here to ask more questions.
[20:17] <carbonzero> ioria: not sure. it's someone else's laptop and I'm not face to face with it. I'll have to show that pic to them though.
[20:17] <ioria> carbonzero, if it's that, as tomreyn said, means  the icon could not be loaded.
[20:18] <carbonzero> ioria: ok, I'll let the person know then.
[20:19] <carbonzero> ioria: what would be a solution to get it to load?
[20:31] <lavinho> good night
[20:31] <lavinho> my touchpad not working
[20:32] <lavinho> lenovo ideapad 330s-15ARR
[20:32] <lavinho> elantech
[20:32] <ioria> carbonzero, if you confirm it, i'd say  the icon file path  or (if an upgraded system) a custom  application no more supported on the new version
[20:32] <lavinho> lspci not display touchpad
[20:33] <lavinho> help me please
[20:36] <jeremy31> lavinho: why would touchpad be in lspci?
[20:36] <lavinho> nothing
[20:37] <jeremy31> lavinho: post URL from terminal for> dmesg | grep -i elan | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <lavinho> nothing
[20:39] <jeremy31> lavinho: do> dmesg | grep -i elan
[20:39] <lavinho> nothing
[20:40] <jeremy31> lavinho: either it is not elan or it might be disabled in mouse and touchpad settings
[20:40] <lavinho> no
[20:40] <lavinho> elantech
[20:40] <lavinho> driver win 10
[20:41] <lavinho> and not disabled settings touchpad
[20:42] <lavinho> thank you jeremy31
[20:42] <jeremy31> lavinho: what URL> dkms status | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:42] <nshirelaptop> has anyone else had trouble with drive.google.com on ubuntu (using chromium)?
[20:43] <lavinho> https://termbin.com/b7u7
[20:43] <nshirelaptop> my files are always stuck on "starting upload"
[20:44] <jeremy31> lavinho: where did you get that dkms from? psmouse/elantech-x551c
[20:44] <lavinho> yes
[20:45] <lavinho> no understand
[20:45] <jeremy31> lavinho: I don't know where you got the elantech-x551c from?
[20:46] <lavinho> i'm not
[20:48] <jeremy31> lavinho: in terminal do and reboot> sudo dkms remove psmouse/elantech-x551c --all
[20:51] <lavinho> ok
[20:51] <lavinho> and next
[20:52] <jeremy31> lavinho: rebooted already?
[20:52] <lavinho> no
[20:52] <cgi> I have a new drive which I want to parition so that both ubuntu and windows can use it. how do i partition it?
[20:52] <cgi> gparted : partition table type -> ?
[20:53] <jeremy31> cgi, install windows first, then install Ubuntu using install alongside windows option
[20:53] <rory> cgi: you want msdos
[20:54] <lavinho> jeremy31 not works
[20:54] <jeremy31> lavinho: in terminal> dmesg | grep -i elan
[20:54] <lavinho> no results
[20:55] <jeremy31> lavinho: did you copy and paste from chat to terminal?
[20:55] <ioria> lavinho, what's your kernel ? uname -r
[20:55] <cgi> jeremy31, I'm using windows using VBox guest inside ubuntu
[20:55] <cgi> jeremy31, I would like to mount this drive's partition on windows
[20:55] <lavinho> 4.15.0-20-generic
[20:56] <rory> cgi: if you don't need to boot Windows from the drive, then you can use GPT, as Windows 7 and later can mount those partitions fine.
[20:56] <jeremy31> lavinho: post URL for> dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:57] <ioria> lavinho, if everything else fails, i'd go with the cosmic hwe : sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[20:57] <lavinho> https://termbin.com/5p8b
[20:57] <rory> cgi: the partition itsself will need to be formatted as FAT32 or NTFS for you to mount it natively in Windows
[20:57] <cgi> rory, I'm partitioning the 1TB into 512GB each - first one using ext4 and second using ntfs
[20:57] <cgi> will try to mount
[20:57] <rory> cgi: select GPT as partition table type, then.
[20:58] <lavinho> and sudo update-grub
[20:58] <jeremy31> lavinho: remove acpi=off from the grub command line
[20:58] <lavinho> ?
[20:58] <cgi> rory, not msdos?
[20:58] <lavinho> ok
[20:59] <rory> cgi: msdos only if you need to boot Windows from the drive, or access the data on Windows XP.
[20:59] <rory> it makes little difference anyway if you only have primary partitions
[20:59] <jeremy31> lavinho: when you have that removed from /etc/default/grub, do a sudo update-grub and reboot
[21:00] <lavinho> ok
[21:00] <lavinho> thank's
[21:03] <cgi> rory, I made both of them primary. Now need a mount point - and then mount it inside virtualbox?
[21:04] <rory> cgi: yeah now you have two partitions you can mount either or both in virtualbox
[21:04] <rory> cgi: possibly they have appeared in the file browser already
[21:07] <lavinho> no works
[21:07] <lavinho> :(
[21:07] <jeremy31> lavinho: results now for > dmesg | grep -i elan | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:08] <lavinho> https://termbin.com/oc95
[21:10] <lavinho> :(
[21:12] <jeremy31> lavinho can you update BIOS and disable IOMMU in BIOS after that?
[21:12] <lavinho> no
[21:14] <jeremy31> lavinho: Bug report about the same touchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1795292
[21:15] <lavinho> no works
[21:15] <lavinho> :(
[21:15] <jeremy31> lavinho: Bug report about the same touchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1795292
[21:18] <lavinho> ok
[21:18] <lavinho> thank you
[21:19] <jeremy31> lavinho: Stick around, I will edit my github fix and get you some commands
[21:19] <lavinho> no understand
[21:23] <jeremy31> lavinho: run the commands at https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/99ec9f7ad963d2be620a5973f298760e in terminal and then reboot, if that doesn't work, you need to update your BIOS
[21:27] <opilab> hey everyone, im having an issue in 18.04 where when i press the lock button my screen only goes black and the rest of the machine doesnt switch off, is this intended or is there a different way to achieve hibernation?
[21:30] <Gerowen> Well the "lock" button is probably just locking the screen, the same as if you pressed Super+L.  You can go into the power settings and change the power button to "suspend" your PC if you want.
[21:30] <Gerowen> opilab
[21:30] <lavinho> how to update bios  ?
[21:30] <lavinho> only linux
[21:30] <opilab> Gerowen: thank you that's exactly what i'm looking for
[21:31] <tomreyn> opilab: or just hold down Alt and press the pause icon
[21:31] <opilab> tomreyn: ahhh that too, thanks as well
[21:34] <Gerowen> lavinho: If your motherboard manufacturer supports it, download the BIOS file to a thumb drive and then use it from your BIOS to install the update.  At least as far as I've seen, most motherboard manufacturers who have an installer to flash the BIOS from within the OS only release such tools for Windows, so you'll need the actual BIOS file to install from within the BIOS of your PC.
[21:35] <tomreyn> unfortunately lavinho left a minute after they asked their question
[21:35] <OerHeks> bla bla check manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[21:35] <jeremy31> lavinho will be back
[21:36] <jeremy31> likely trying my fix without a BIOS update now
[21:43] <lavinho> how to update bios on linux ?
[21:44] <jeremy31> lavinho: If your motherboard manufacturer supports it, download the BIOS file to a thumb drive and then use it from your BIOS to install the update.  At least as far as I've seen, most motherboard manufacturers who have an installer to flash the BIOS from within the OS only release such tools for Windows, so you'll need the actual BIOS file to install from within the BIOS of your PC.
[21:44] <OerHeks> check your manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[21:44] <tomreyn> lavinho: also https://fwupd.org/ - and please don't leave within a minute of asking a question in the future.
[21:44] <jeremy31> lavinho: what results for> mokutil --sb-state
[21:45] <lavinho> but bios .exe
[21:45] <lavinho> ?
[21:45] <OerHeks> so, maybe not possible, or no need for linux, without proper hardware information only you can tell
[21:45] <lavinho> ok
[21:45] <lavinho> thank's
[21:45] <lavinho> sorry
[21:49] <tacomaster> I am trying to swap to linux and I have 2 computers but both are pretty different. The best cpu computer I have is a 6th gen i5 with 16GB of ram but no graphic card other than intel hd because it is a micro form factor. The other is a 2nd gen i5 but has a radeon hd 7950. I would think that the computer with the 7950 would do better for gaming but I am not sure about the driver support for it in linux. I remember back in the day r
[21:49] <tacomaster> hoping it has got better
[21:54] <tgm4883> tacomaster: I don't know a ton about AMD graphics, but a quick search seems to indicate that AMD card is supported with the open source AMD drivers that are included.  The AMD card is way better than your 6th gen i5 integrated graphics
[21:55] <tacomaster> tgm4883: Awesome thank you so much!
[21:56] <tgm4883> tacomaster: I'm just basing the support part off of this https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-7950-vega64&num=2
[21:56] <tomreyn> tacomaster: i think both will work fine, both GPUs will work with open source drivers (intel + radeon) which should work out of the box.
[21:58] <tacomaster> I think I am going to leave the 6th gen as my back up windows machine if something goes south and I need to do some research.
[22:02] <tomreyn> according to the link tgm4883 posted, you could also use the AMD GPU with the newer 'amdgpu' (instead of the 'radeon') driver, which also enables vulkan support, enabling oyu to also play newer games.
[22:03] <tacomaster> This is awesome. Thank you so much for all of your help!
[22:04] <cgi> Mount /dev/sda1 /opt/ubuntu/ -> I can do this with /dev/sda2 /opt/windows as well - wihout problems. But when I add this in fstab : /dev/sda2    /opt/windows   ntfs    defaults    0    1 - I get in trouble.
[22:06] <tomreyn> cgi: change the trailing "1" to "0". "2" might work as well.
[22:06] <cgi> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KcyB2RpXqC/
[22:06] <tomreyn> also explain what "get into trouble" looks like and which ubuntu version you are running
[22:07] <cgi> tomreyn, same problem with trailing 0 on those two lines
[22:07] <cgi> tomreyn, the error is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KcyB2RpXqC/
[22:08] <tomreyn> cgi: well those partitions don't comtain the file systems your fstab claims they do
[22:09] <cgi> tomreyn, that was the problem - I had it backward - fixed. Thanks!
[22:09] <tomreyn> you can also use "sudo file -s /dev/sda1" to determine what you have there.
[22:09] <cgi> tomreyn, can i make a user own those two drives? chown user:user /opt/ubuntu ?
[22:10] <tomreyn> on ext4, yes, not so on ntfs.
[22:11] <tomreyn> well, "own drives" is quite ambiguous. the question i answered is: can i make my user own the files and directories on these file systems
[22:12] <tomreyn> cgi: see also "Non-superuser mounts" in mount(8)
[22:15] <tomreyn> Also the "FILESYSTEM-INDEPENDENT MOUNT OPTIONS" 'user' and 'group' on the same man page.
[22:16] <kubast2> Hey I tried cross-compiling a kernel today, and it worked so far. But gnome3 crashed and I had to reboot, now when I try to compile the kernel gcc no longer support options: "-mabi=aapcs-linux -mlittle-endian -mno-thumb-interwork -mfpu=vfp" required to compile c files inside of scripts/mod.
[22:16] <kubast2> I have reinstalled gcc the toolchain and redownloaded the kernel source
[22:16] <kubast2> what could be the issue?
[23:03] <Anticom> Hey guys. I recently disabled the validation from secureboot using "mokutil --disable-validation" However now during upgrade to linux-headers-4.4.0-143-generic the update gets stuck with "sh /usr/sbin/update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key"
[23:03] <Anticom> Any ideas what to do?
[23:05] <jeremy31> Anticom: I normally disable Secure Boot
[23:06] <Anticom> jeremy31: i thought running mokutil --disable-validation was sufficient
[23:07] <jeremy31> Anticom: disable Secure Boot in UEFI settings, see if any problems occur
[23:07] <plongshot> Is there any way to view the $PATH of something?
[23:08] <plongshot> I want to check that node.js has the correct path.
[23:08] <Anticom> plongshot: could you elaborate on your question please?
[23:08] <Anticom> plongshot: whereis node.js
[23:09] <Anticom> however PATH is something else
[23:09] <plongshot> Anticom: Thanks.  It appears as though ther are multiple (space separated) paths. Is that normal?
[23:09] <plongshot> $PATH of node.js
[23:09] <Anticom> yep, because all of those are in PATH
[23:09] <Anticom> just do echo $PATH to see the PATH of your system
[23:10] <Anticom> it's a list of directories where ubuntu will look for stuff without giving it the explicit path
[23:10] <Anticom> for example ls or cd is in PATH
[23:10] <Anticom> that's why you don't have to type /usr/bin/ls everytime
[23:11] <plongshot> Anticom: This extention I have installed in visual studio code has an issue where (sometimes) not all the reqd. packages are installed and it malfunctions. The author of the plugin recommends that the "$PATH" of node.js be checked.
[23:11] <plongshot> Anticom: thx
[23:11] <Anticom> and yes, it's normal for whereis will look for binaries, manuals, sources by default. If you're only looking for the binary use whereis -b node.js
[23:11] <plongshot> :)
[23:12] <Anticom> jeremy31: so did you mean disabling it in bios?
[23:13] <bcn_1221> hi
[23:13] <bcn_1221> has anyone managed to configure audio and bluetooth with Z8300 chipsets?
[23:43] <espBerry> how can i do screenshot?
[23:44] <klausfiend> hi there
[23:44] <klausfiend> i think i've found a bug in the U16 installer
[23:44] <OerHeks> hit the prt screen button, gnome screenshot should be installed standard
[23:44] <klausfiend> specifically, the version of "linux-base" that gets installed is too old for the kernel version that gets installed, and the kernel package install fails because the 'linux-update-symlinks' command doesn't exist
[23:45] <espBerry> there is no button of prt screen button . OerHeks
[23:45] <espBerry> :(
[23:45] <klausfiend> this is fairly recent, as i have an automated build job running weekly for U16 images and it started to fail over this past weekend
[23:45] <klausfiend> has anyone else encountered this?
[23:45] <OerHeks> any regular keyboard does, just start up gnome screenshot, and voila
[23:47] <klausfiend> hrm, looks like i might be reporting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1820366
[23:48] <OerHeks> klausfiend, yes, and i am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-base/+bug/1766728
[23:48] <leftyfb> espBerry: open up the "screenshot" app?
[23:49] <espBerry> screenshot app
[23:49] <leftyfb> espBerry: yes
[23:49] <leftyfb> espBerry: I'm not sure how much easier it could be
[23:49] <klausfiend> OerHeks: yeah, it looks like the version of "linux-base" that gets installed is the older one that's missing the necessary script
[23:50] <OerHeks> klausfiend, add yourself to that bugreports?
[23:51] <espBerry> thanks leftyfb :)
[23:51] <espBerry> i did it
[23:53] <klausfiend> OerHeks: yep!
[23:54] <bedouintravels> Is there a way to run apps as sudo in GUI? installed nautilus-admin but can only edit, not run as admin via right-click. Running 18.04
[23:57] <klausfiend> OerHeks: given that it's a known issue i won't bother you fine IRC folks any further, thanks for confirming! i'll keep my eyes open for the fix. :-)