[05:33] <_jason> mageknight: do you know about synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude?
[05:33] <_jason> or any one of those really?
[05:33] <mageknight> _jason: No. i'm a newbie in linux
[05:33] <jacob_> sorry, i pressed alt-f4 instead of alt-f2 lol
[05:34] <_jason> mageknight: how did you install mplayer?
[05:34] <mageknight> _ jason: i just type sudo apt-get command for the mplayer
[05:35] <_jason> mageknight: right, so to install mplayer-fonts, you would do: sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts        but there is a nice gui program you can use too and you can access it by going to system > administration > synaptic
[05:35] <jacob_> hold on.. need to restart
[05:35] <ppjjj> i seriously just had a restaurant manager call my 24/7 emergency support line and ask me to "dial in and unfreeze his mouse"
[05:35] <ppjjj> at midnight
[05:35] <mageknight> you mean the package manager right??
[05:35] <_jason> mageknight: yes
[05:35] <mageknight> _jason: how do i use this
[05:36] <_jason> ubuntu: tell mageknight about synaptic
[05:36] <tyler> anyone here uses giFT p2p can u pls help me?
[05:36] <mageknight> _jason: theres an error on the sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: what is the error? (if it is long, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to post it and give us a link)
[05:37] <mageknight> _jason: unable to lock administratoion directory
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: did you use sudo?
[05:37] <mageknight> yes
[05:37] <mageknight> i'll paste it to be extact
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: do you have synaptic open at the same time?
[05:37] <_jason> mageknight: it's ok, I know the error
[05:38] <mageknight> heres the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13821
[05:38] <mageknight> yes
[05:38] <_jason> mageknight: you have to close synaptic, because it uses the same database as apt-get
[05:38] <ahmeni> Is there anything I can do to help stem the tide of people trying to brute force passwords through ssh?
[05:38] <mageknight> ok
[05:39] <tokennrg> ext3 run better than jfs?
[05:39] <_jason> ahmeni: use ssh keys instead
[05:39] <ahmeni> _jason: I encourage my users to use ssh keys, but it's not viable for all of them
[05:40] <dli> ahmeni, disable passwd login, and use public key
[05:40] <dli> ahmeni, have a look at fail2ban
[05:40] <tokennrg> or run ssh on a nonstandard port (security by obcsurity :P   )
[05:41] <l_> !restrictedformats
[05:41] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:41] <l_> !freeformats
[05:41] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:41] <mageknight> _jason: i cant change the aspect ratio of my mplayer??
[05:41] <mageknight> _jason: i want to fill up the whole screen
[05:41] <_jason> mageknight: use xv as the video output
[05:41] <ahmeni> dli: nice, does it scan apache logs as well?
[05:41] <mageknight> _jason: on the preferences??
[05:41] <_jason> mageknight: yep
[05:42] <gimpyhtml> this is a question for anybody that runs rythmbox or listen music players, but is there anyway to open multiple music folders at once in the "import folder"
[05:43] <riddlebox> man its good to use ubuntu again, tried fedora out, I couldnt get my wireless to work at all, in ubuntu two minutes and it was up
[05:43] <newpers> i'm installing the updates on drapper (flight 7).  it's been installing acpi-support for about 20 minutes now.  i think it's stuck.  what should i do?
[05:44] <Whyvas> kill it
[05:44] <Flannel> newpers: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[05:44] <Whyvas> and do dpkg --configure -a
[05:44] <newpers> Flannel: it's dead quiet
[05:44] <Flannel> newpers: oh, fair enough.
[05:45] <newpers> :)
[05:45] <newpers> Whyvas: what's that last command do?
[05:45] <Whyvas> fixes stuff
[05:46] <newpers> Whyvas: sorry, but what do i kill?  i'm not use to this packaging system
[05:46] <tritium> newpers: configures all packages that are unpacked but not yet configured
[05:46] <tritium> (man dpkg) ;)
[05:46] <l_> can someone tell me how to change teh permissions of a folder to make it writeable by the current user?
[05:46] <mustard5> l_ which folder?
[05:46] <_jason> l_: what directory exactly?
[05:47] <Whyvas> are you using synaptic?
[05:47] <newpers> Whyvas: all I did was click that little icon in the top that downloads and installs the updates
[05:47] <Whyvas> ah
[05:48] <Whyvas> not sure what that one is called
[05:48] <newpers> There's a window open that says "Applying Changes"  and has a progress bar, but i can't close it
[05:48] <Whyvas> ok
[05:48] <newpers> so i ps awwfux, but i don't see anything
[05:48] <newpers> that i would know to kill
[05:48] <Whyvas> right click on your panel up top
[05:48] <_jason> update-manager probably
[05:48] <Whyvas> add item
[05:48] <mustard5> newpers, try clicking rapidly on the main window for the application..see if it force a quit
[05:48] <Whyvas> force quit
[05:49] <Whyvas> under desktop and windows
[05:49] <harisund> newpers: Hit Alt and F2 together. Then type in xkill. Your cursor will change. Click on the window that seems to be 'hung' and it will die
[05:49] <Whyvas> then click on that, then on the window
[05:49] <_jason> oh yes, force quit may do it more nicely
[05:49] <njdavid> Anyone know how to disable hotplug?
[05:49] <njdavid> Or stop it from hanging?
[05:49] <njdavid> It's because of my Nvidia card.
[05:49] <njdavid> And frankly, I don't hink hotplug is needed.
[05:49] <ppjjj> oh my god never taking another on call job
[05:50] <newpers> i think i got it with sudo kill -9 dpkg.id (which just resumed everything)
[05:50] <_jason> killing dpkg processes isn't really good though :/
[05:50] <harisund> njdavid: if you want to stop hotplug, I would suggest the command 'sudo invoke-rc.d hotplug stop' And to ensure it doesn't load on bootup execute 'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remov
[05:51] <tritium> bravo, harisund
[05:51] <njdavid> Can I copy and paste that verbatim?
[05:51] <njdavid> Erm
[05:51] <harisund> Yes. Whatever is between the quotes is a command you will need to execute on the terminal.
[05:51] <wooow> anyone alive?
[05:51] <harisund> And the last command should be 'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remove'
[05:51] <njdavid> harisund, It abrupty end "'sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug remov"
[05:51] <harisund> woow I am :)
[05:52] <harisund> njdavid typo :)
[05:52] <wooow> harisund: I have installed ubuntu 5.10 5x now, and it still hasn't asked me for a root passwd.. and i cannot root.. what is the matter with it
[05:52] <Flannel> !tell wooow about root
[05:53] <harisund> woow There are no 'root' accounts on Ubuntu. The first user that you have created has root permissions and can execute commands as root by prepending the command with 'sudo'
[05:53] <harisund> woow you should have got a message pointing you towards a webpage where you can read how administrator accounts are handled in Ubuntu
[05:54] <wooow> Yes..
[05:54] <wooow> THank you
[05:54] <tritium> wooow: nothing is the matter with it
[05:54] <wooow> uhh
[05:54] <wooow> wth
[05:55] <harisund> wooow I am guessing you must have had experience with other Linuces out there, eh?
[05:55] <wooow> now it's denying remote access...
[05:55] <harisund> What happened?
[05:55] <harisund> remote access?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> actually there is a root account. :P its just that direct logging in to it is disabled by default.
[05:55] <NoUse> wooow have you installed the ssh server?
[05:55] <wooow> harisund: I'm more of a FC user..
[05:55] <harisund> hmmmm.. Ok :)
[05:55] <harisund> What can I say? Welcome to Ubuntu, perhaps?
[05:56] <wooow> lol
[05:56] <wooow> XD
[05:56] <Flannel> wooow: ubuntu ships with no ports open, nothing listening, etc.
[05:56] <tritium> wooow: what kind of remote access would you like to enable?
[05:57] <ferronica> any one here using utorrent in ubuntu???
[05:57] <wooow> tritium: I want like SSH access..
[05:57] <Flannel> wooow: install ssh-server ;)
[05:57] <ferronica> i waqnna use Utorrent in ubuntu can I guys???
[05:57] <harisund> wooow You would have to first install the SSH Server. The command you would use is 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[05:57] <wooow> uhh
[05:57] <wooow> okay
[05:57] <wooow> brb
[05:57] <tritium> !enter
[05:57] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:58] <ferronica> ubotu: utorrent
[05:58] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[05:58] <NoUse> !tell ferronica about ubotu
[05:59] <ferronica> NoUse: tell me how to use Utorrent in ubuntu
[05:59] <NoUse> ferronica I've never used it
[05:59] <ferronica> lol
[05:59] <NoUse> ferronica utorrent is windows only
[05:59] <ferronica> NoUse: in windows toooo
[06:00] <ferronica> any one here using utorrent in ubuntu???
[06:00] <Gaya> is there a C compiler in ubuntu?
[06:00] <harisund> Gaya There is, but it is not installed by default
[06:00] <NoUse> Gaya install the build-essential package
[06:01] <NoUse> ferronica utorrent is a windows program
[06:01] <Gaya> where can i find that package?
[06:01] <NoUse> Gaya synaptic
[06:01] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know any FREE Linux Magaznines besides tuxmagazine?
[06:01] <ferronica> NoUse: so there is no way to use it in ubuntu 5.10
[06:01] <harisund> NoUse, I have a question . When someone asks about installing gcc or g++ would it be better to ask them to install just the compiler or would you suggest installing the entire build-esential meta package?
[06:01] <tritium> Gaya: you can also use apt-cache search <search term>
[06:01] <NoUse> ferronica you might be able to use it wine, but I don't know
[06:02] <tritium> harisund: the meta package is preferred
[06:02] <harisund> ok ..
[06:02] <i3dmaster> how to config FF keyboard shortcuts?
[06:02] <ferronica> from where can i get wine
[06:02] <tritium> !info wine
[06:02] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[06:02] <ferronica> NoUse: how to install it????
[06:02] <harisund> ferronice Are you really keen on Utorrent only?
[06:02] <NoUse> ferronica its in syanptic
[06:03] <ferronica> ok
[06:03] <ferronica> NoUse: in search what i type???
[06:03] <ericmoritz\0> I'd like to change the password to my keychain, how would I do that?
[06:03] <NoUse> ferronica take a guess
[06:04] <ferronica> NoUse: Ok i typed, so many stufs showing, which one to install???
[06:04] <NoUse> ferronica you typed wine?
[06:04] <ferronica> NoUse: yes
[06:04] <NoUse> ferronica install the package named 'wine'
[06:04] <ferronica> NoUse: only WINE
[06:05] <drcode> any one know dia for drwing?
[06:05] <ferronica> NoUse: bcoz there is ---libwine,wine-doc
[06:05] <tritium> drcode: I still prefer xfig
[06:05] <tritium> ferronica: do you need the libraries and documentation also?:
[06:05] <NoUse> ferronica I understand that, install the wine pckage
[06:06] <pyrobob> quick question
[06:06] <harisund> Yes pyrobob?
[06:06] <njdavid> HEhe
[06:06] <njdavid> That didn't work.
[06:06] <ferronica> NoUse: bcoz there is ---right now i just wanna to install for utorrrent
[06:06] <pyrobob> whenever i try to compile anything with a configure file, I get an error
[06:06] <njdavid> Disabled my USB mouse and keyboard.
[06:06] <pyrobob> saying the C compiler cannot create executables
[06:06] <hyphenated> !b-e
[06:06] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[06:06] <harisund> njdavid I was afraid of that. hotplug does more things too, and by stopping it you are potentially killing a lot of stuff.
[06:06] <njdavid> harisund, Yeah, It worked on my laptop though :)
[06:06] <harisund> njdavid, hang on. I will give you the command to get back hotplug as it was before.
[06:06] <Gaya> okay i used apt-cache search essential package, and i can see a build-essential, so how do i install it?
[06:06] <harisund> Are you on dapper?
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, oh noi
[06:07] <ferronica> NoUse: Ok i selected wine
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[06:07] <ubotu> apt-get is, like, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:07] <harisund> ok no problem njdavid ..
[06:07] <tritium> Gaya: with apt-get or synaptic
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, I didn't get a chance to completely type the rest lol
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, Stopped after the first one
[06:07] <Whyvas> screw wine
[06:07] <Whyvas> use vmware
[06:07] <ferronica> NoUse: downloding something, after downloading what next step????
[06:07] <Whyvas> much better.
[06:07] <njdavid> harisund, Now, I just need to find a way to stop hotplug from trying to start my nvidia card.
[06:07] <pyrobob> ... how would I fix my little problem? (C compiler cannot create executables when running configure files)
[06:08] <harisund> njdavid, I believe you can add the nvidia module to a list of blacklisted modules or something like that
[06:08] <njdavid> harisund, Where is the list located?
[06:08] <hyphenated> pyrobob: uboto told you about 2 lines after you asked
[06:08] <NoUse> ferronica get the utorrent installer, the run 'wine file.exe'
[06:08] <pyrobob> oh sorry didn't see that
[06:08] <ferronica> NoUse: what what, i didnt get YOU????
[06:09] <harisund> njdavid That is something that I do not know, since I have never had the chance myself. Let's hope somebody else can help you out ..
[06:09] <i3dmaster> anyone knows how to config FF shortcuts?
[06:09] <NoUse> ferronica download the utorrent installer file, and from the command line run 'wine filename.exe' where filename.exe is the filename of the utorrent installer
[06:09] <slackern> njdavid, dapper 6.06 has a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist not sure if it's the same in breezy
[06:09] <njdavid> harisund, I know it's in etc something lol.
[06:09] <njdavid> slackern, Hmm looks familiar.
[06:09] <hyphenated> ferronica: have you considered any of the other bittorrent clients that already work on linux?
[06:09] <tritium> njdavid: breezy's blacklilst was in /etc/hotplug
[06:10] <njdavid> tritium, Know the filename?
[06:10] <njdavid> heh
[06:10] <njdavid> nevermind
[06:10] <tritium> njdavid: ;)
[06:10] <njdavid> /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[06:10] <slackern> find /etc/ -name blacklist
[06:10] <harisund> njdavid, there you go :)
[06:11] <ferronica> NoUse: Ok wine installed, what i do???
[06:12] <NoUse> ferronica I already told you
[06:12] <NoUse> ferronica twice
[06:12] <ferronica> NoUse: now shud i download utorrent? from terminal
[06:12] <NoUse> ferronica yes
[06:12] <harisund> It seems sort of unusuallly quiet down here today ..
[06:12] <ferronica> what command to give
[06:12] <Whyvas> ferronica, use bit tornado
[06:12] <njdavid> harisund, I know it has to be simple, but how do I view my XP partition, and copy files?
[06:13] <Whyvas> it's a linux bit torrent client
[06:13] <tritium> ferronica: s/shud/should
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use rtorrent :P
[06:13] <NoUse> ferronica yeah thats a good question,why do you need utorrent?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> using utorrent with wine.. is sort of 'scary' :P
[06:13] <harisund> njdavid.. from what I recollect UBuntu should have automatically mounted your NTFS/FAT partitions for you. Go inside /media and look at the folders there. Just try and navigate through them.
[06:13] <slackern> Dr_Willis, shhh, don't get them going on software running in terminals, keep that for later :)
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  heh - and save 'screen' for even later!
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:14] <njdavid> harisund, Nope
[06:14] <ferronica> NoUse: bcoz to download some torrents requires Utorrent...
[06:14] <njdavid> harisund, cdrom0 and usbdick
[06:14] <harisund> njdavid ok could you post me the file listing of your /etc/fstab somewher online?
[06:14] <njdavid> erm
[06:14] <njdavid> disk
[06:14] <njdavid> lol
[06:14] <hyphenated> haha
[06:14] <harisund> njdavid lool that. .
[06:14] <njdavid> rofl
[06:14] <harisund> rofl
[06:14] <slackern> ^^
[06:14] <NoUse> ferronica thats not true
[06:14] <NoUse> ferronica who told you that?
[06:15] <njdavid> harisund, the xp partition isn't listed.
[06:15] <slackern> I use bittornado myself after trying a ton of torrentclients too
[06:15] <ferronica> NoUse: it is
[06:15] <harisund> njdavid do you know how your hard disk(s) are organized?
[06:15] <wooow> What is the command to update?
[06:15] <slackern> rufus was nice, but well it's memory usage went to 1.5GB then i dumped it :)
[06:15] <NoUse> ferronica give me an example
[06:15] <harisund> wooow: 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:15] <harisund> wooow: Have you changed your repositories?
[06:15] <njdavid> harisund, I believe my xp partition is hda2
[06:15] <wooow> that's what i thought
[06:15] <njdavid> harisund, My recovery partition is 1
[06:15] <wooow> harisund: no..
[06:15] <intelikey> harisund tell him to 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> now the 'tracker' may  not like some clients.
[06:15] <tritium> ferronica: please use _real_ English words
[06:15] <cdubya> njdavid, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:16] <harisund> intelikey I will have to let you take over then .. thanks .. I haven't used fdisk and so don't have much expertise with that
[06:16] <njdavid> hda2
[06:16] <njdavid> I'm not a super complete nub. :-P
[06:16] <cdubya> njdavid, didn't think so.
[06:16] <njdavid> I just haven't messed with linux in a long time.
[06:16] <Whyvas> ferronica, you're crazy, use bit tornado
[06:16] <cdubya> njdavid, did you add it to fstab?
[06:16] <harisund> njdavid any user who can identify hda2 is far far from being a n00b .. :)
[06:16] <slackern> Dr_Willis, that is true, but i've never ran into trackers not accepting bittornado, but nontheless utorrent is the king of clients and someone needs to port it before i start crying :)
[06:16] <intelikey> harisund that command only lists the partitions of all hard disk
[06:16] <ferronica> NoUse: two days before i tried to download one torrent(^Demonoid.com^_Billy_Sheehan_-_Cosmic_Troubadour_(2005)_[FLAC] ) which is 500MB
[06:17] <njdavid> cdubya, That, I don't know how to do. ;)
[06:17] <harisund> intelikey : oh .. but I believe fdisk is much more capable than that, right?
[06:17] <cdubya> njdavid, hang on....
[06:17] <njdavid> Thanks for helping me everyone.
[06:17] <intelikey> harisund yes indeed.
[06:17] <tritium> ferronica: please don't discuss downloading copyrighted music here
[06:17] <njdavid> I'm sure I'll be asking more questions later. :-/
[06:17] <wooow> omg
[06:17] <ferronica> NoUse: i left it for whole night, wake in morning i saw ERROR in download,
[06:17] <cdubya> njdavid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:17] <wooow> make isn't a recgonised commang?
[06:17] <tritium> wooow: you need to install build-essential
[06:17] <harisund> wooow: you would have to install it seperately.
[06:17] <slackern> wooow, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:18] <Whyvas> ferronica, why do you use linux?
[06:18] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:18] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[06:18] <cdubya> njdavid, if you follow those docs, they worked just fine when I tried it the first time.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  ive used utorrent.. its ok. :P  but i use rtorrent on my  ssh/fileserver to better effect at times.
[06:18] <NoUse> ferronica I'm downloading it right now using bitorrnado, you are wrong
[06:18] <slackern> Dr_Willis, ahh, you know if it can handle cookies and such from sites too demanding that?
[06:18] <coolio> if i install a program twice by executing the following command: sudo apt-install apache, would that install two different programs of apache or just one?
[06:18] <lkj1> Why isn't my internet connection working? I have run dhclient several times, but it won't reveive an IP.
[06:18] <ferronica> NoUse: If u see one comment is written there
[06:18] <cdubya> njdavid, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[06:18] <Whyvas> coolio, just one
[06:19] <NoUse> ferronica what?
[06:19] <coolio> okay great
[06:19] <cdubya> njdavid, then add a line like this to fstab......
[06:19] <ferronica> NoUse: use utorrent
[06:19] <harisund> lkj1 What sort of a connection are you on?
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Worked perfectly, the diskmounter program I mean.
[06:19] <cdubya> njdavid, kewl.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  i normally download the .torrent file. then copy them over to my rtorrent's 'incoming' dir.. and it then starts the torrent.. moveing it to 'done' when its done. :P no interaction from me
[06:19] <cdubya> :-)
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Hehe
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Wub.
[06:19] <lkj1> I have a standard cat5 connection that I am trying to use on interface eth0.
[06:19] <cdubya> njdavid, so you got it mounted?
[06:19] <cdubya> heh
[06:19] <njdavid> cdubya, Yeah
[06:19] <NoUse> ferronica Its working on my PC using bittornado, you are wrong
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  if some torrent site demanded me to use cookies.. i would proberly use another site.
[06:19] <cdubya> where'd you mount it?
[06:20] <harisund> lkj1 Typically on reboot Ubuntu should automatically pick up an IP. Are you sure the other end of the cable is plugged in properly to a working DHCP server, like a router for example?
[06:20] <ferronica> NoUse: Leave it for whole download, in last u will see result
[06:20] <njdavid> cdubya, It did it automatically, the 'diskmounter' program mounted it in hda2
[06:20] <wooow> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[06:20] <wooow>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'
[06:20] <wooow> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:20] <wooow> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[06:20] <wooow>  'Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)'
[06:20] <wooow> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:20] <tritium> wooow: don't paste!
[06:20] <NoUse> ferronica bittorrent is a standard, any client will work
[06:20] <njdavid> Spammage. ;)
[06:20] <cdubya> njdavid, I just created /media/windows, then created the symlink like the docs said, and have a sweet icon on the desktop that I double-click to do that....
[06:20] <cdubya> heh
[06:20] <slackern> Dr_Willis, ahh oh well, it's working good enough for me now, torrentflux is quite nice too tried it and it works fairly well but i need that cookie support and they have it with a couple of patches and such but im just waiting for a new relase.
[06:20] <Whyvas> ferronica, why do you use linux?
[06:20] <harisund> ubotu tell wooow about repos
[06:20] <lkj1> It is plugged in properly, harrisund. The router is giving DHCP packets because this computer is working with the same cable, but the other won't.
[06:20] <njdavid> cdubya, Oh, the first like 2 sentences say to use the program
[06:21] <wooow> ...
[06:21] <cdubya> njdavid, in the wiki?
[06:21] <lkj1> Apparently, ubuntu doesn't have DHCPCD..
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  what i would like to see is some sort of webinterface to my torrent programs so i can montor them from any machine from the lan.. right now i ssh in and use screen.  Not exactly ideal in ways
[06:21] <njdavid> Yeah
[06:21] <njdavid> Ok
[06:21] <tritium> !enter
[06:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:21] <lwizardl> how do you remove an apt-get program
[06:21] <njdavid> cdubya, The 2nd/3rd block of text
[06:21] <cdubya> njdavid, heh, musta looked right passed that.
[06:21] <cdubya> heh
[06:21] <slackern> Dr_Willis, you seen torrentflux, it's a web/php/mysql driven client
[06:21] <njdavid> cdubya, "Mounting partitions with the script"
[06:21] <Apostle^> lkj1, sure it does
[06:21] <harisund> lkj1 Actually DHCPD is not what you want . dhclient is what you want. anyway .. that apart..
[06:21] <cdubya> njdavid, I just set it up manually.
[06:21] <tritium> lwizardl: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[06:21] <cdubya> worked like a charm
[06:21] <njdavid> cdubya, :)
[06:21] <ferronica> Whyvas: why do u use linux???
[06:22] <intelikey> well i have no time to hang around here.   i have a 12k+ bash script to reformat and comment.....
[06:22] <slackern> !torrentflux
[06:22] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern
[06:22] <slackern> bah
[06:22] <njdavid> Damnit.
[06:22] <regeya> !ppc
[06:22] <ubotu> methinks ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers.  Supported by Ubuntu PPC.
[06:22] <lkj1> Because you know what is up to, ferronica. You can't with Windoze.
[06:22] <njdavid> My sound isn't working!!!
[06:22] <njdavid> cdubya, know how to fix it?
[06:22] <cdubya> njdavid, was it working before?
[06:22] <slackern> Dr_Willis, http://www.torrentflux.com/
[06:23] <NoUse> ferronica it is strange you run Linux but you want to run all Windows applications, it doesn't make sense
[06:23] <njdavid> cdubya, I just put Ubuntu on here about an hour ago, so no :)
[06:23] <cdubya> njdavid, heh
[06:23] <lwizardl> hmm i'm getting errors tryng to remove phpmyadmin
[06:23] <harisund> lwizardl there's a problem with phpmyadmin
[06:23] <Whyvas> ferronica, database development, why do you use linux?
[06:23] <Whyvas> exactly, it seems like you have no use for linux at all
[06:23] <lkj1> lol phpmyadmin. Just use regular SQL queries
[06:23] <njdavid> cdubya, "No volume control elements and/or devices found."
[06:23] <ferronica> Whyvas: just for my knowledge,
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> slackern,  heh - i was just googling for it.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:24] <lkj1> jk
[06:24] <ferronica> Whyvas: everytime i wanna to do something new
[06:24] <cdubya> njdavid, did the card at least get picked up by the installer?
[06:24] <harisund> lwizardl I will search if you want, but go to http://ubuntuforums.org and do an advanced search. Saerch for by user 'harisund' and post 'phpmyadmin'
[06:24] <tritium> Whyvas, ferronica: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:24] <NoUse> ferronica you won't learn anything if you only run Windows apps
[06:24] <lkj1> Phpmyadmin rocks
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, There was no errors or anything.
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, I think I had to do something with alsa last time, I have no clue though.
[06:24] <lkj1> so, what commands should I do to check my eth0? Dmesg doesn't show any useful info..:(
[06:24] <Whyvas> phpmyadmin is the goodies
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, Something with modprobe?
[06:24] <njdavid> cdubya, :-P
[06:24] <ferronica> NoUse: you do one thing leave that torrent to download okay
[06:24] <cdubya> njdavid, heh
[06:25] <NoUse> ferronica I'm not gonna download 500MB to prove you wrong
[06:25] <njdavid> cdubya, Any ideas?
[06:25] <ferronica> NoUse: If it done tell me, i am always available in this channel
[06:25] <cdubya> njdavid, is you do a lspci, does the sound card show up properly identified?
[06:25] <Whyvas> ferronica, are you sure you tried bit TORNADO and not the default ubuntu bit torrent client?
[06:25] <ferronica> NoUse: Then i am right,
[06:25] <ferronica> NoUse: yes
[06:26] <mustard5> heh..thats a strange logic :)
[06:26] <tritium> that's no logic at all
[06:26] <ferronica> Whyvas: why should i lie
[06:26] <njdavid> cdubya, I'm not sure, hehe. Something about onboard AC'97 comes up, which I think is right.
[06:26] <ferronica> Whyvas: i used tornado
[06:26] <NoUse> ferronica you aren't lying, you are just horribly misinformed
[06:26] <njdavid> cdubya, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:26] <tritium> Take the torrent talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, guys
[06:27] <harisund> The ops around here, I have a question. I want to add a factoid  to ubotu on uninstalling phpmyadmin. There is a bug in the package, atleast on Breezy, and I know the forum thread to correctly uninstall phpmyadmin (Istarted the thread0
[06:27] <tritium> harisund: go ahead
[06:27] <cdubya> njdavid, heh, that's exactly the same entry I have and my sound works.....:-P
[06:27] <harisund> tritium.. hmm..how do I add?
[06:27] <njdavid> cdubya, What computer do you have?
[06:27] <sparkleytone> harisund: whats the bug...i actually have used that very package
[06:27] <ferronica> Whyvas: this one is Billy_Sheehan original CD
[06:27] <harisund> sparkleytone have you tried uninstalling/purging it?
[06:27] <tritium> !ubotu
[06:27] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me.  The /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.perm script needs to be edited slightly
[06:29] <tritium> ferronica: I've told you repeatedly to take it to -offtopic, and _not_ to discuss downloading copyrighted music
[06:29] <sparkleytone> ah
[06:29] <sparkleytone> harisund: is there a bug filed at launchpad?
[06:29] <aaron_> i need a beter msn on linux haw do i get it
[06:29] <tritium> lkj1: put your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin please
[06:29] <NoUse> ferronica if you want to talk about bittorent go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <cdubya> njdavid, maybe something here?   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[06:30] <harisund> sparkleytone: I don't know how to check ?   Only ubuntu cdimages
[06:30] <aaron_> i need another type of msn for linux
[06:30] <lkj1> BRB, tritium
[06:31] <mustard5> aaron_, I think your options are gaim or amsn
[06:31] <sparkleytone> aaron_: msn?  use gaim.
[06:31] <cdubya> aaron_, to use with messenger?
[06:31] <sparkleytone> amsn is supposed to be pretty good i think
[06:31] <cdubya> aaron_, yeah, use gaim
[06:31] <ferronica> NoUse: now how to remove that wine from my ubuntu that i downloded it??
[06:31] <harisund> ok am doing sparkleytone
[06:31] <NoUse> ferronica synaptic
[06:31] <ferronica> NoUse: So, i stick on BIT  TORNADO
[06:31] <cdubya> aaron_, I use gaim for aim, msn and irc
[06:31] <tokeman> yes amsn works good
[06:31] <aaron_> but it sucks
[06:31] <gleesond> is pcmcia the pc card slot
[06:32] <tokennrg> hrmm, I just did a base install of kubuntu 5.10, it prepended all my mount points with /media e.g. /media/var   is that normal?
[06:32] <aaron_> u cant put pics on it
[06:32] <NoUse> ferronica just search synaptic for bittorrent, you'll find several clients
[06:32] <aaron_> or any thing
[06:32] <Whyvas> and for once it might not be me!
[06:32] <mustard5> tokeman, /media/var sounds very strange :)
[06:32] <sparkleytone> there's also mercury msn (formerly dmsn)
[06:32] <sparkleytone> http://www.mercury.to/
[06:32] <tritium> Whyvas: heh, have you been banned before?
[06:32] <Whyvas> yes
[06:32] <Whyvas> by you
[06:32] <ferronica> NoUse: no no i wanna to uninstall wine from my ubuntu now
[06:32] <aaron_> haw do i get the other one
[06:33] <Whyvas> jesus ferronica
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica search for it and mark it for uninstall
[06:33] <tritium> Whyvas: heh, but if I recall, I unbanned you as well
[06:33] <regeya> PLEASE HAMMER DON'T HURT EM
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica have you read http://help.ubuntu.com ?
[06:33] <Whyvas> you did
[06:33] <cdubya> heh
[06:33] <Whyvas> ferronica, where are you from?
[06:33] <ferronica> NoUse: NOPE, i am new in linux
[06:33] <harisund> sparkleytone it says there is a binary package called phpmyadmin but how do I see where the bugs for that package are?
[06:33] <tokeman> tokennrg mustard5 tokeman, /media/var sounds very strange :)
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica all the more reason to read that webpage
[06:33] <ferronica> Whyvas: from singapore
[06:33] <regeya> I missed something...someone did something  deserving of bannination?
[06:33] <NoUse> ferronica read that page before asking more questions please
[06:34] <harisund> sparkleytone forgive me for my ignorance, but this is the first time I am doing anything outside of IRC and the forums.
[06:34] <Whyvas> ah
[06:34] <tritium> regeya: not yet
[06:34] <harisund> So I don't want to do anything wront
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, i'll pastebin the dmes output incase it helps
[06:34] <sparkleytone> harisund: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bugs
[06:34] <Whyvas> isn't there an ubuntu channel in your native language?
[06:34] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks
[06:34] <mustard5> tokeman, thanks ..sorry about that :)
[06:34] <aaron_> haw do i instal amsn  when i tryed it said it wosent supported
[06:34] <tokeman> mustard5 NP
[06:34] <regeya> hey, I've openly harassed gnome devs here and never gotten banned.  whaddaya have to do, sprinkle your bittorrent links with profanities and references to sexual relations with one's mother?
[06:35] <tokennrg> odd indeed /media/ /media/usr  /media/data
[06:35] <cdubya> aaron_, sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:35] <tokeman> aaron find the advanced options look for repository
[06:35] <lkj1_> Tritium: http://pastebin.com/712945
[06:35] <mustard5> tokennrg, I would be concerned about it :)
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/712946
[06:36] <tokeman> !sound
[06:36] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> its a ide hdd in an external usb enclosure. the same stuff happens when its turned on with cable select or master
[06:36] <harisund> sparkleytone: I am referring to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79934. But in your bugs page I couldn't find anything of that sort. Could you check up both if you don't mind?
[06:36] <tritium> lkj1_: you need eth0 configured properly.  You want it to come up on boot?
[06:36] <lkj1_> That would be nice.
[06:36] <ferronica> Whyvas: are u downloding it
[06:36] <tritium> lkj1_: that looks terrible as it is.
[06:36] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: sec
[06:36] <Whyvas> ferronica, i need a link
[06:37] <njdavid> cdubya, I think this is the module I need http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6&module=intel8x0 but I have no idea what to do now.
[06:37] <ferronica> Whyvas: ^Demonoid.com^_Billy_Sheehan_-_Cosmic_Troubadour_(2005)_[FLAC]
[06:37] <lkj1_> I have already ifconfig up'd it, why won't it work? No special modules that I know of..
[06:37] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: "scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" seems to be key.
[06:37] <ferronica> http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/342200/
[06:37] <tritium> lkj1_: you need these two lines: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp", assuming you're using DHCP
[06:37] <ferronica> Whyvas: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/342200/
[06:37] <glick> hey has anyone plated civ4 with cedega?
[06:37] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: can you verify that the volume(s) is(are) not mounted via /etc/mtab ?
[06:37] <lkj1_> so just edit the file in vi, tritium?
[06:37] <NoUse> ferronica you aren't in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <tritium> ferronica: no more warnings about copyright infringement
[06:37] <fiend> hello guys, do you know any desktop resource monitors beside gkrellm and superkaramba? the one that's more console-like that gui, thanks
[06:37] <ferronica> Whyvas: Its a full CD in FLAC format
[06:38] <slackern> !mods
[06:38] <ubotu> slackern: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:38] <slackern> doh
[06:38] <harisund> slackern ops perhaps?
[06:38] <tritium> !aq ferronica
[06:38] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tritium
[06:38] <ferronica> NoUse: little bit can we talk???
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, nothing came up in 'mount' or 'cat/proc/partitions' or 'ls /dev/sd*' but i'll turn on a box to test it on
[06:38] <NoUse> ferronica in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <ferronica> Whyvas: got or not now
[06:39] <njdavid> harisund, Know how to fix sound problems?
[06:39] <ferronica> NoUse: RULES r very strict i think???
[06:39] <njdavid> harisund, The module for my sound is loaded.
[06:39] <ferronica> NoUse: :(
[06:39] <harisund> sparkleytone could you check?
[06:39] <sparkleytone> harisund: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/44325
[06:39] <NoUse> ferronica only when you don't listen
[06:39] <njdavid> But it just doesn't output :-/
[06:39] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, good. Assuming the device is now /dev/sdc, please ``sudo fsck /dev/sdc1''
[06:39] <cdubya> njdavid, did you try alsamixer to make sure it wasn't muted
[06:39] <ferronica> NoUse: i just uninstalled the wine
[06:39] <harisund> Awesome sparkleytone How did you find it? Great. I just wanted that added to ubotu
[06:40] <lkj1_> Tritium:I added those lines. Now what?
[06:40] <njdavid> cdubya, It's not muted
[06:40] <lkj1_> Reboot?
[06:40] <sparkleytone> harisund: i opened the bug.  who knows if it will get fixed.
[06:40] <ferronica> Whyvas: are u there???
[06:40] <tritium> lkj1_: yes, and you can delete some of those duplicate lines if you want
[06:40] <lkj1_> Thanks, I will try it. :)
[06:40] <sparkleytone> harisund: for future ref...you can search for a package on the ubuntu page and there is a bug list link on the left
[06:41] <harisund> ok done. Thanks :)
[06:41] <Whyvas> ferronica, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:41] <ferronica> NoUse: how to go in
[06:41] <sparkleytone> you're welcome
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, no device is made though. just getting ready to check mtab
[06:41] <ferronica> Whyvas: HOW
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !irc
[06:41] <ubotu> hmm... irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[06:41] <ferronica> Whyvas: r u going there
[06:41] <njdavid> cdubya, :(
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> - /join #channelname
[06:41] <harisund> seriously tritium , Iwish that package was there
[06:41] <intelikey> tritium ^5
[06:41] <NoUse> ferronica /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:42] <tritium> harisund: :)
[06:42] <slackern> !lordallmighty
[06:42] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern
[06:42] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: err, sorry, miscounted. scsi4 would be /dev/sdd
[06:42] <harisund> !goo' boy
[06:42] <ubotu> harisund: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:42] <etmntONE> I just formatted an hdd to fat32... how do check what file system it is
[06:42] <etmntONE> df -a doesn't display the fs of a device
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fdisk -l
[06:42] <etmntONE> thanks
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> if you formated it to fat32.. then it had to be a fat32 file system befo rya could format it.
[06:42] <intelikey> mount if it's mounted
[06:43] <cdubya> njdavid, wish I was more help.
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, i have no /dev/sd devices
[06:43] <etmntONE> it's mounted but admin > disks it reports ext3
[06:43] <njdavid> cdubya, Know of anyone that can help?
[06:43] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: hmm. Has it ever worked?
[06:43] <intelikey> Kamping_Kaiser look in /dev/.static/   iirc
[06:44] <etmntONE> fdisk -l doesn't display
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, "it works in windows". its a mates device, i'm borrowing it to do the bugsearching
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> etmntONE,  use 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:44] <slackern> 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:44] <intelikey> etmntONE sudo
[06:44] <cdubya> njdavid, one of the pros like crimsun or tritium prolly, but I'm not sure......sound isn't really my strong suit.....just trying to help if I can.....:-/
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it comes with drivers ffor windows. dont know if that changes anything
[06:44] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: but hasn't worked in Linux at all?
[06:44] <slackern> hehe was there someone saying just a few minutes ago how quiet it was in here i belive?
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, no. not on 3 machines and 2 kernel revisions
[06:45] <etmntONE> under system is says Liux
[06:45] <etmntONE> but doesn't display the filesystem
[06:45] <crimsun> njdavid: recap, please?
[06:45] <njdavid> crimsun, My sound isn't working, the module's it needs are installed, and it's not muted.
[06:45] <tritium> cdubya: that's nice, but I'm no pro ;)
[06:45] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: ick, probably a scsi issue in linux 2.6, then :/
[06:45] <cdubya> crimsun, he's got sound mod loaded up, but no sound. AC-97 controller
[06:45] <etmntONE> any other way to check the file system?
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, :( so a kernel bug?
[06:45] <cdubya> tritium, more of one than I. :-)
[06:45] <crimsun> njdavid: pastebin ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[06:45] <tritium> :)
[06:46] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: either that or udev
[06:46] <ferronica> how to change channel guys????????????????????
[06:46] <Apostle^> how do i switch between users without logging anyone out?
[06:46] <ferronica> tritium: how to change channel????
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, so which should i file a bug against?
[06:46] <sparkleytone> /join #channel
[06:46] <tritium> ferronica: type this ^
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronica, read what people tell you
[06:46] <etmntONE> would this be a correct fstab entry for a Fat32 drive?
[06:46] <etmntONE> /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    fat32    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> you were told 10 minutes ago
[06:46] <njdavid> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/712952
[06:46] <Whyvas> ferronica, it works
[06:46] <Whyvas> ferronica, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <cdubya> etmntONE, change fat32 to vfat.......
[06:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> etmntONE, dont need to remount-ro, and personaly i dont put partitions in /media
[06:47] <intelikey> etmntONE ah no fdisk will only show the partition type not the actual fs.   linux = ext2 partition    could actually be any fs.    if it's mounted   mount    will tell you what it is.
[06:47] <Apostle^> how do i switch between users without logging anyone out?
[06:47] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: lsmod |grep ^sd_mod
[06:47] <etmntONE> thanks
[06:47] <crimsun> njdavid: ok, hold a sec, tackling multiple things concurrently
[06:47] <intelikey> etmntONE no not fat32   vfat
[06:47] <tritium> Apostle^: there is a user-fast-switch gnome package in universe
[06:48] <etmntONE> /dev/hdb1 on /media/slave type vfat (rw)
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, "sd_mod      20448 0"
[06:48] <etmntONE> thanks a lot guys
[06:48] <njdavid> crimsun, It's cool. I appreciate it :)
[06:48] <intelikey> oh i'm lagging...
[06:48] <tritium> Apostle^: fast-user-switch-applet is the name, I believe
[06:48] <crimsun> njdavid: are you using the optical/digital output or regular analog speakers?
[06:49] <Apostle^> tritium, i don't think i gave this account sudo powers, how do i do that?
[06:49] <njdavid> crimsun, Hehe, I'm not sure. 5 speakers, from Logitech. :-/
[06:49] <tritium> Apostle^: add that user to the admin group
[06:49] <crimsun> njdavid: in Applications> Accessories> Terminal, type: amixer set 'IEC958' off
[06:49] <lkj1> tritium: still didn't work. Maybe it is a hardware problem?
[06:49] <njdavid> crimsun, Do you want me to paste the output?
[06:49] <Apostle^> tritium, how do i do that? :-)
[06:49] <crimsun> njdavid: no need, we're not finished yet.
[06:50] <njdavid> crimsun, Ok.
[06:50] <crimsun> njdavid: now: amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Surround' 80% && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'LFE' on && amixer set 'LFE' 80%
[06:50] <tritium> lkj1: perhaps the module isn't loading automatically?
[06:50] <crimsun> njdavid: (copy and paste that)
[06:51] <lkj1> Why wouldn't it? I added those lines.
[06:51] <tritium> lkj1: which NIC?
[06:51] <lkj1> eth0
[06:51] <tritium> lkj1: yes, but which manufacturer/model?
[06:51] <njdavid> crimsun, What exactly is that doing? (only 2 of my speakers work, because I am using an onboard sound card.)
[06:51] <lkj1> I don't know..
[06:51] <lkj1> How do I find out without taking my comp apart?
[06:51] <tritium> lkj1: please check with lspci or dmesg
[06:51] <cdubya> Apostle^, System >Administration > Users and Groups
[06:52] <Apostle^> cdubya, thanks
[06:52] <crimsun> njdavid: now: amixer set 'Duplicate Front' on
[06:52] <det_> Safe to upgrade from flight-7 today?
[06:52] <C-O-L-T> can I set my computer to auto turn off? I mean for example I am printing something and after it would like to turn off my computer. Is there a possibility?
[06:52] <cdubya> Apostle^, np
[06:52] <njdavid> crimsun, Ok
[06:52] <etmntONE> hmmm... it's mounted and I did "sudo chmod 777 -R /media/slave" and when I try to copy to it, it says I don't have permission?
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T, only if you use a script or an acpi timeout
[06:52] <lkj1> lspci says: Accton Corporation ethernet interface.. Never heard of Accton
[06:52] <etmntONE> any idea why? this is a vfat partition
[06:53] <fiend> hello guys, do you know any desktop resource monitors beside gkrellm and superkaramba? the one that's more console-like that gui, thanks
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> etmntONE, you shouldnt havce to chmod a fat32 partition
[06:53] <crimsun> njdavid: does ``aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' give you any audible volume?
[06:53] <etmntONE> I tried without it, but it says I can't write
[06:53] <cdubya> heh
[06:53] <njdavid> crimsun, no :(
[06:53] <C-O-L-T> Kamping_Kaiser: is it so complicated. I mean I am not at home and I would like to turn off my pc. There is not a tool to which i say turn off my computer in 3 min a tool that pushes the turn off button? :D
[06:53] <stone_> hello, can someone please help me with PPC install?
[06:53] <etmntONE> however with root I can write to it?
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T, short answer: no :)
[06:54] <crimsun> njdavid: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[06:54] <etmntONE> How would I let normal users write to my vfat partition?
[06:54] <njdavid> crimsun, Now what?
[06:54] <crimsun> njdavid: how about now (w/ aplay)?
[06:54] <tritium> lkj1: do you get any output for eth0 from ifconfig?
[06:54] <stone_> i have a Pismo with a brand new 80gb HD. first 60gb is OS X. 20gb is empty. i burn breezy ISO with FireStarter and Toast, put into Pismo, hold down C and nothing happens.
[06:54] <etmntONE> chmod 777 -R seems to not work
[06:54] <C-O-L-T> Kamping_Kaiser: :(
[06:55] <etmntONE> :(
[06:55] <Apostle^> stone_, firestarter is not a cd-burning program?
[06:55] <njdavid> crimsun, Woo it worked!
[06:55] <cdubya> Apostle^, no....firewall
[06:55] <intelikey> etmntONE man mount   and use /  to search for  mask
[06:55] <lkj1> only the mac address and other stuff, and it says no packets received tritium
[06:55] <Apostle^> cdubya, he said he burned an iso with it.. :-0
[06:55] <crimsun> njdavid: awesome, I'll need to modify alsa-utils yet again  <sigh>
[06:55] <cdubya> njdavid, crimsun's the man.
[06:55] <stone_> Apostle^: I tried both firestarter and Toast. both burn ISOs to CD. both burn them seemingly fine.
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> C-O-L-T, :(
[06:55] <tritium> lkj1: okay, but that's a good sign
[06:55] <njdavid> crimsun, But nothing else works..
[06:55] <stone_> yet neither will make the CD bootable on my pismo
[06:55] <Apostle^> stone_, firestarter is a firewall not a cd-burning program?
[06:55] <crimsun> njdavid: not sure what you mean?
[06:55] <tritium> lkj1: what does "sudo ifup eth0" do for you?
[06:56] <tritium> Apostle^: yes
[06:56] <intelikey> etmntONE in short  mount it with umask=0  gets every body full access.
[06:56] <regeya> Kamping_Kaiser: if your nick is something you DM under, remind me to never DM with you.
[06:56] <cdubya> Apostle^, if it's the same app I'm thinking of, yes
[06:56] <stone_> if i hold down Option I see the Ubuntu CD. when i select it I get dropped into Open Firmware.
[06:56] <njdavid> crimsun, The aplay command let me hear the sound, but when I try to play a movie, it doesn't work.

[06:56] <cdubya> Apostle^, gnomebaker
[06:56] <lkj1> it says already configured, tritium
[06:56] <etmntONE> /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    vfat    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0
[06:56] <crimsun> njdavid: using which program?
[06:56] <etmntONE> where would I add that unmask-0 part
[06:56] <Apostle^> cdubya, he keeps saying he uses it to burn cd's :-P
[06:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> regeya, deathmatch? it used to be... untill i switched to linux.
[06:56] <njdavid> crimsun, Totem?
[06:56] <etmntONE> umask=0, sorry
[06:57] <regeya> stone_: forgive me if you've answered this already....wait, I see you have.  no idea on a pismo.  that's weird that you get dumped to OF.
[06:57] <stone_> Apostle^: firestarter is a CD/DVD burning app on OS X
[06:57] <cdubya> Apostle^, heh
[06:57] <njdavid> lol
[06:57] <njdavid> crimsun, nevermind
[06:57] <njdavid> crimsun, hehe
[06:57] <regeya> Kamping_Kaiser: I used to DM under Linux...Quake, obviously....
[06:57] <stone_> regeya: i agree. it is very weird.
[06:57] <tritium> lkj1: can I double-check your /etc/network/interfaces again please?
[06:57] <cdubya> Apostle^, stone_ is prolly right there....I don't use OS X anymore
[06:57] <Apostle^> stone_, ahh, i understand now...... i was thinking of linux
[06:57] <lkj1> Tritium: http://pastebin.com/712945
[06:57] <regeya> pismo...pismo...
[06:57] <Apostle^> cdubya, yea, miscommunication
[06:57] <tritium> lkj1: is this after you edited it?
[06:57] <stone_> Apostle^: i want to get to linux
[06:57] <lkj1> no, before
[06:57] <cdubya> Apostle^, but on Ubuntu, it's a firewall app
[06:57] <stone_> new World
[06:57] <tritium> lkj1: can I see the new version?
[06:57] <stone_> it uses Open Firmware
[06:58] <etmntONE> :/
[06:58] <lkj1> yes, 1sec
[06:58] <cdubya> stone_, what's the issue
[06:58] <regeya> wait, new world if OF, right?  /me is ignorant of mac history
[06:58] <cdubya> regeya, yep
[06:58] <stone_> cdubya: the ISO CDs I try to burn do not boot my Powerbook Pismo G3 while holding down C.
[06:58] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: sorry, missed your response
[06:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, np. i let you worry about your other questions.
[06:58] <stone_> cdubya: i have tried two different programs, two different CDs
[06:59] <cdubya> stone_, did you try to burn the ISO using disk utility
[06:59] <stone_> cdubya: i have had very poor experiences with that in the past.
[06:59] <stone_> i am on OS X now
[06:59] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't know offhand if it's udev's or linux-source-2.6.15's fault. I'd file it against the former.
[06:59] <cdubya> stone_, I've never had disk utility on Panther fail me once on an ISO burn unless it was my fault
[06:59] <cdubya> that's why I asked
[06:59] <stone_> cdubya: i will try disk utility then
[06:59] <stone_> be back in a bit
[06:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun, thanks. i'll do that
[06:59] <cdubya> stone_, just a thought
[06:59] <regeya> aha!  pismo! http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/pismo.shtml
[07:00] <lkj1> Tritium: http://pastebin.com/712956
[07:00] <cdubya> heh
[07:00] <cdubya> yep, that's it regeya
[07:00] <Whyvas> stone_, you should of bought a real computer
[07:00] <tritium> should have?
[07:01] <Whyvas> and not an over-priced useless piece of eye candy
[07:01] <tritium> lkj1: thanks
[07:01] <Whyvas> hehe
[07:01] <stone_> Whyvas: this is an old powerbook pismo i have been using for years and years. served me VERY VERY well.
[07:01] <lkj1> Unfortunately, I have to go to bed. Need to be at work early tomorrow. I'll be back tritium.
[07:01] <stone_> cdubya: i am burning the ISO using DU now.
[07:01] <tritium> lkj1: I can fix it for you
[07:02] <lkj1> ok
[07:02] <tritium> lkj1: I'll query you
[07:02] <dli> stone_, how old? what cpu?
[07:02] <stone_> i have years of experience with YDL and Fedora (ppc and x86) but i have never seen this before
[07:02] <cdubya> stone_, their pretty decent from what I've heard....if that ISO fails, then maybe there's an issue with the ISO file itself?
[07:02] <cdubya> stone_, know a few folks that run Panther on Pismos
[07:02] <stone_> dli: it's a 2000 Powerbook G3/400 1gbRAM, 80gb HD
[07:02] <lkj1> how do you mean, tritium?
[07:02] <stone_> it normally runs Tiger
[07:02] <dli> stone_, check md5sum of the iso file
[07:02] <stone_> cdubya: i am thinking that but hoping now
[07:02] <stone_> dli: how?
[07:02] <tritium> lkj1: PM, essentially
[07:03] <cdubya> dli, that's what I was thinking, just couldn't remember how
[07:03] <cdubya> he
[07:03] <dli> stone_, "md5sum foo.iso"
[07:03] <cdubya> heh
[07:03] <stone_> dli: can you be more specific, please?
[07:03] <tritium> lkj1: you should have it now
[07:03] <lkj1> thanks! I will write that down! Goodnight, all. :)
[07:03] <regeya> Whyvas: in all seriousness, have you ever used an OS X machine?  veeeeeeeeeeery nice, at least if you have a quartz extreme compliant gfx card ;-)
[07:03] <dli> stone_, "man md5sum"
[07:03] <cdubya> stone_, just issue that command to the filename...... md5sum filename.iso
[07:03] <regeya> Whyvas: and it's not as dumbed down as GNOME.  never thought I'd see an environment more dumbed-down than MacOS.
[07:04] <stone_> cdubya, dli : doing it now
[07:04] <cdubya> heh
[07:04] <stone_> bstone$ md5sum ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso
[07:04] <stone_> how long should it take?
[07:04] <stone_> it says
[07:04] <stone_> 8886a26a1da1daa3669ed6e1253bd93b  ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso
[07:04] <dli> stone_, and you can get the correct checksum from the download site
[07:05] <Whyvas> regeya, that doesn't change the fact that they're overpriced eye candy for prissy users
[07:05] <regeya> 1GHz Pismo???!?  mac people are scary.
[07:05] <stone_> dli: this is where i got it: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/
[07:05] <stone_> where is the checksum?
[07:05] <regeya> Whyvas: prissy users who *don't* have to have features pulled out to relieve confusion, though... ;-D
[07:06] <Whyvas> yeah, prissy users who do "video editing" on a mac because it's faster
[07:06] <dli> stone_, check the official ubuntu site
[07:06] <regeya> "Wait!  I just thought of something!  There's some guy in West Virginia who MIGHT get confused if he EVER USED GNOME and tried to RIP A CD and was presented with BITRATE OPTIONS!  WE GOTTA TAKE THAT OUT!!!!! OHNOES!Q#$^8"
[07:07] <intelikey> hmmm is this a mac -vs- blah war ?
[07:07] <stone_> dli cdubya : checksum checks out
[07:07] <stone_> same on each
[07:07] <stone_> md5 command spits out what the mirror has exactly
[07:07] <regeya> intelikey: trolls trolling the troll
[07:07] <cdubya> stone_, k. you going to try the one you burned with disk utility?
[07:08] <Centaur5> Is there a program similar to KMix for gnome?
[07:08] <stone_> cdubya: putting it in now
[07:08] <dli> stone_, yes, checksum is correct
[07:08] <manji> hey, what package gives me all the microsoft truetype fonts?
[07:08] <cdubya> stone_, so is it dropping you into OF?
[07:08] <stone_> cdubya: when i hold down C it boots to OS X normally
[07:08] <dli> stone_, then, check the cd
[07:08] <stone_> when i hold down Option and select the Ubuntu CD, it drops me to OF
[07:08] <Whyvas> intelikey, no, this is me talking about hardware and regeya talking about specific software of a specific OS
[07:09] <regeya> So hardware is overpriced eyecandy...right...
[07:09] <regeya> gotcha.
[07:09] <Whyvas> mac hardware is...
[07:09] <stone_> damn
[07:09] <stone_> c fails
[07:09] <stone_> holding down option
[07:09] <stone_> i can see the Ubuntu CD with the penguin
[07:09] <Whyvas> im not talking about the eyecandy of a desktop
[07:09] <Whyvas> i mean the way a machine looks
[07:09] <mugzie> can someone help me im having trouble getting java runtime enviorment for my firefox i read the wiki but im still confused i dont know exactly what to do
[07:10] <stone_> and IT BOOTS ME TO OF!!! GAHHS
[07:10] <ferronica> ok
[07:10] <igcek> how to mount sb key?#mount /dev/***
[07:10] <regeya> ok, well, since you're not biting, Whyvas, I'll have to agree.  we have these eMacs at work that are failing at an incredible speed due to BAD CAPACITORS.  But DERN they're PURTY
[07:10] <Whyvas> mugzie, use synaptic package manager to install it
[07:10] <cdubya> stone_, try to boot the cd from there
[07:10] <igcek> usb*
[07:10] <stone_> cdubya: i shall
[07:10] <stone_> be back in a few
[07:10] <tritium> !tell stone about enter
[07:10] <ebaad> hello everybody
[07:10] <Whyvas> regeya, solder some new ones on
[07:10] <intelikey> igcek mount /dev/sd? /mount/point
[07:11] <Whyvas> that's an easy fix
[07:11] <ebaad> I have a question about upgrade
[07:11] <Whyvas> i fix old mobos with bad caps all the time
[07:11] <mugzie> whyvas i dont got synpatic on this im using floxbox
[07:11] <ebaad> I get the error E: couldn't find package update
[07:11] <ferronica> Whyvas:??????//
[07:11] <regeya> meanwhile we can't replace hardware until it dies, and we have these damned beige macs all over the place too.  I think they were designed to survive thermonuclear war, or something.
[07:12] <ebaad> when updating the applications
[07:12] <regeya> whyvas, in between slacking and loafing, I'll do that.
[07:12] <Whyvas> heh
[07:12] <ebaad> can somebody tell me how to fix it
[07:12] <igcek> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:12] <igcek> root@clj22-212:/home/irena#
[07:12] <intelikey> everyone seems to be flocking to floxbox these days.
[07:12] <mugzie> whyvas im in floxbox they dont got synpatic
[07:12] <Whyvas> err
[07:12] <regeya> floxbox?
[07:12] <mugzie> fluxbox i meant
[07:12] <Whyvas> use dselect
[07:13] <Whyvas> or dpkg
[07:13] <mugzie> um sorry im so new idk what u talking bout
[07:13] <regeya> yeh why the sudden fluxbox resurgence
[07:13] <dli> mugzie, you can run synaptic in fluxbox or any wm
[07:13] <intelikey> igcek that error is deceptive.  probably menas that the wrong device node was specified.
[07:13] <mugzie> dli but how would i run it
[07:14] <Whyvas> open a shell and type synaptic
[07:14] <miguelsr> hey does some one know how to search movies on megaupload?
[07:14] <Whyvas> as root
[07:14] <dli> mugzie, I heard about gksudo
[07:14] <Whyvas> to be root, type sudo synaptic
[07:14] <Whyvas> then put in your user password
[07:14] <tritium> miguelsr: don't discuss that here
[07:14] <intelikey> gksudo if you please.
[07:14] <regeya> besides, whyvas, my talents don't lie in the solder-something-and-have-it-work-afterward area...ok, this time I mean it, </offtopic>
[07:14] <miguelsr> where!!
[07:14] <dli> whyami, then, you get "can not open DISPLAY"
[07:14] <mugzie> ok
[07:15] <stone_> cdubya dli : never trust a checksum.
[07:15] <cdubya> stone_, how's that?
[07:15] <tritium> miguelsr: how about nowhere, since that's illegal?
[07:15] <ebaad> I get the error E: couldn't find package update
[07:15] <Apostle^> hardware question: if you remove all the ram from a mobo, boot it and it gives no beep it is fried like an egg yes?
[07:15] <ebaad> when trying to update installation
[07:15] <stone_> cdubya: it failed to boot my perfectly working desktop g4
[07:15] <manji> hey, what package gives me all the microsoft truetype fonts?
[07:15] <tritium> msttcorefonts
[07:15] <cdubya> stone_, heh
[07:15] <manji> ah many thanks
[07:16] <intelikey> Apostle^ depends on the board
[07:16] <Whyvas> cannot open display??
[07:16] <dli> stone_, you can never trust a checksum for 100%, but it's very unlikely you shouldn't trust it for practical purposes
[07:16] <whyami> is there a way I can install ubuntu onto a mounted disk image within another ubuntu machine?
[07:16] <Apostle^> intelikey, i have another computer where it turns on, all the hd's led's fans etc, but nothing happens.
[07:16] <manji> whyami: of course
[07:16] <stone_> i have never used md5 before and i won't ever again. lol
[07:16] <tritium> stone_: why not?
[07:16] <stone_> i am downloading from a different mirror this time
[07:16] <dli> whyami, what about simply "cp -a" your currect ubuntu to it?
[07:17] <stone_> tritium: because md5 told me the download i had was fine, when it was not
[07:17] <cdubya> stone_, hate to say it, but you might try to download the ISO again, if it's not too painful on your connection.
[07:17] <whyami> becuase I want to put just a minimal install on this disk image.
[07:17] <dli> stone_, why it is not fine?
[07:17] <stone_> cdubya: step ahead of ya
[07:17] <tritium> stone_: if the checksum was correct, the image was good
[07:17] <stone_> already 33mb into it
[07:17] <stone_> 250kb/sec
[07:17] <dli> whyami, I don't know ubuntu has a minimum, go debian
[07:17] <Whyvas> stone_, did you try the cd check in the boot menu?
[07:17] <cdubya> stone_, installed that on a Bondi here at that house that I had several of laying around.....it was kinda fun actually
[07:18] <whyami> the server install is minimum enough. This is what I want to install.
[07:18] <cdubya> stone_, figuring out the right mouse click equivalents was interesting.....heh
[07:18] <stone_> i am frm a mac family. got three here with me.
[07:18] <Madpilot> stone_, run the torrent instead - bittorrent does checking as it downloads
[07:18] <dli> tritium, theoretically, the image could be still bad
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.500000]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.514000]  VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb.
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.527000]  VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb.
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.542000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sdb
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.556000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sdb
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.570000]  XFS: bad magic number
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.570000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.584000]  XFS: bad magic number
[07:18] <igcek> [4295403.584000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[07:18] <cdubya> stone_, /me grew up on macs.....but haven't bought a new one yet
[07:18] <Apostle^> igcek, pastebin.com please
[07:18] <Whyvas> and the KICK!
[07:18] <intelikey> some older boards have enough ram on board to boot w/o any sticks....  some only run the bios test if they have ram....  most key the speeker about three times indicating the unable to post bios error.   Apostle^
[07:18] <stone_> i hae issues with bittorrent. my ISP is the public school across the street and it blocks BT
[07:18] <tritium> No, he's not kicked, just quieted
[07:19] <stone_> tritium: that was cool. you're a stealth op!
[07:19] <tritium> dli: the MD5 collision issue is very rare
[07:19] <Apostle^> intelikey, mine is a newer, p4 pci-express board, when i remove the ram no beeps, when i boot it with it no beeps, but also nothing else
[07:19] <Madpilot> stoat, all the ops here are "stealthed" ;)
[07:19] <tritium> stone_: we don't like to remain opped
[07:19] <stone_> Madpilot: stoat?
[07:19] <mugzie> ok i in synaptic what now what should i look under for java?
[07:19] <dli> tritium, theoretically, it's very rare
[07:19] <cdubya> heh
[07:19] <Madpilot> stone_, gah - tab-complete error...
[07:20] <stone_> and where did this ridiculous _ come from in my nick?
[07:20] <stone_> weird
[07:20] <whyami> so how do I install the server installation files on a mounted hd image?
[07:20] <Apostle^> stone_, 'stone' is probably taken
[07:20] <borikangel> i got problem with linux, anybody help me????
[07:20] <cdubya> stone_, I think it does that if that's a second choice
[07:20] <Whyvas> god this channel is frustrating
[07:20] <tritium> dli: even practically, it's very rare ;)
[07:20] <stone_> tritium: you've got an @
[07:20] <stone_> !
[07:20] <ubotu> stone_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:21] <intelikey> Apostle^ i'd pull all periferials and test with only the speaker pluged in.  no drives no sound/vidio nothing   if possable.
[07:21] <tritium> stone_: I had to unquiet somebody ;)
[07:21] <stone_> tritium: where did your @ go?
[07:21] <stone_> it left!
[07:21] <tritium> doh!
[07:21] <Apostle^> intelikey, i see, what does the speaker look like
[07:21] <dli> whyami, you cp the vmlinuz, initrd, and the .iso installation image from the installation cd to hdd, and install hdd to load the vmlinuz image
[07:21] <Apostle^> intelikey, the cord atleast
[07:21] <borikangel> dam
[07:21] <tritium> Whyvas: what's the matter?
[07:22] <intelikey> small two wire with a dubble female plug
[07:22] <dli> whyami, if you mean, you want an installation hdd rather than an installation cd
[07:22] <Whyvas> just a never ending flow of annoyances
[07:22] <Apostle^> intelikey, hmm, i don't really know what that means :-)
[07:22] <stone_> just broke 100mb on the download
[07:23] <stone_> should this partition i am using for the Ubuntu be "Free space" or simple empty but formatted?
[07:23] <dli> stone_, you can use jigdo to download .iso
[07:23] <intelikey> Apostle^ if you can recognize 'the speaker' in the box.  follow the wires from it.
[07:23] <stone_> dli: jigdo?
[07:23] <whyami> dli: what I want is a disk image which I can then copy onto another machine and will just boot up ubuntu.
[07:23] <Apostle^> intelikey, does it look like an ordinary speaker?
[07:23] <intelikey> yep most of them do
[07:23] <dli> whyami, cp your current installation to it
[07:24] <whyami> dli: my current installation is too big.
[07:24] <Apostle^> intelikey, the video is built in, is that okay
[07:24] <charchuck> Can anyone help me with a repository problem?  I'm new to all of this and am getting a message I don't understand.
[07:24] <stone_> btw, check this out
[07:24] <stone_> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:24] <intelikey> not really.  but nothing you can do about it.
[07:24] <dli> whyami, then, you chroot to it, and remove packages
[07:24] <stone_> my maintainer is a close friend of mine. he got me into linux stuff
[07:24] <silvalynin> hey guys, i just got ubuntu installed, but i'm having trouble getting Flash installed
[07:25] <dli> charchuck, pastebin the error message
[07:25] <Apostle^> intelikey, well i have a pci-express card, but i removed it to rule it out as being the problem
[07:25] <stone_> silvalynin: try gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:25] <dli> charchuck, if you don't want others to guess
[07:25] <charchuck> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:25] <charchuck> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:25] <mugzie> hey guys im in synaptic but which java do i install?
[07:26] <mugzie> ??
[07:26] <tritium> charchuck: don't do that again please
[07:26] <silvalynin> stone, is that just as good?
[07:26] <dli> tritium, my fault, I should have said, "go to pastebin.com, and paste it there" :(
[07:26] <intelikey> Apostle^ yes.  that is the idea.   zero in on the exact culpret.  then you will know what needs to be done.  as long as the condition is "doesn't work"  it's kinda hard to fix...  when the error is known then a course of action becomes plain.
[07:27] <tritium> dli: no problem :)
[07:27] <charchuck> I'm sorry... Someone asked to see the error message.  Like I said, I'm new to all of this.
[07:27] <stone_> silvalynin: i dunno. never used it before, but a close friend mad it
[07:27] <Apostle^> intelikey, i think the whole MB is fried for some reason
[07:27] <tritium> charchuck: it's no problem :)
[07:27] <mugzie> um can someone help?
[07:27] <dli> charchuck, yes, but I said, "pastebin it" :( ask ubotu about pastebin
[07:27] <Apostle^> intelikey, even though visual inspection reveals no damaged
[07:27] <Madpilot> charchuck, next time, use pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:27] <silvalynin> oo, anyway to just get the original file working?
[07:27] <stone_> ok time for this little boy to go to bed
[07:27] <stone_> i gotta walk the woman to the bus at 9am
[07:28] <intelikey> Apostle^ it indeed can be.    one other thing.  have you replaced the cpu to see if it's a core falt ?
[07:28] <stone_> goodnight, friends. thank you all much for your patience and assistance
[07:28] <cdubya> mugzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[07:28] <cdubya> stone_, later
[07:28] <charchuck> Heh, sorry.  I thought it was a typo and you just meant paste.  Sorry. =]
[07:28] <silvalynin> nite
[07:28] <mugzie> no no im in synpatic like everyone told me to
[07:28] <charchuck> Thanks for the address though.
[07:28] <silvalynin> so, can anyone help me with getting Flash installed?
[07:28] <mugzie> u just wanna know what java file do i download i want the run time
[07:28] <Apostle^> intelikey, l don't have another pentium 4 to put in it, i'm going to take it to the shop i guess.
[07:28] <dli> !ubotu tell silvalynin about flash
[07:29] <intelikey> Apostle^ putting that cpu in another box would be a good test.    (even at a shop)
[07:29] <cdubya> silvalynin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29           look for the flash section
[07:29] <mugzie> but im kinda confused'
[07:29] <silvalynin> alright, thanks both of you
[07:29] <dli> silvalynin, I like firefox because I really hate flash :(
[07:29] <cdubya> mugzie, the jre
[07:30] <Apostle^> intelikey, yea, i wonder how much they charge for a problem find, estimate whatever you want to call it, maybe even free if you have them do the work
[07:30] <mugzie> ok
[07:30] <tritium> Good night, all
[07:30] <cdubya> later tritium
[07:30] <tritium> see you cdubya
[07:31] <mugzie> wait i dont see a fre sorry if i seem stupid :(
[07:31] <mugzie> jre i meant
[07:31] <intelikey> Apostle^ well this is not an official computer shop.  but we've never charged for diagnosis.    it generates more business if people feel like you are trying to help them...
[07:31] <cdubya> mugzie, yeah, if you click on the link in the wiki there to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[07:31] <Apostle^> intelikey, yea, this is a local pc shop i'm going to take it to so maybe free
[07:32] <lasindi> Hi all, how do you mount a "Linux LVM" partition? I've been trying with just "mount /dev/hda5 /blah" but it tells me to specify a filesystem.
[07:32] <Apostle^> intelikey, i know bestbuy is $50
[07:32] <cdubya> mugzie, then scroll down to the JRE installer link
[07:32] <mugzie> ok
[07:32] <mugzie> got ya now
[07:32] <intelikey> ok back to my code.  luck with it Apostle^
[07:32] <Apostle^> intelikey, thanks, later
[07:33] <cdubya> mugzie, just follow those wiki docs to the t and you should be good to go.
[07:34] <Centaur5> Is there a way to switch whether the sound goes out the speakers or the headphone jack on a laptop?
[07:35] <mugzie> cduya should i get the rpm self extracting or the.....regular self extracting
[07:35] <charchuck> All right!  Fixed the problem.  Thanks guys.
[07:36] <njdavid> How do I edit my resolutions?
[07:36] <njdavid> I know my card and monitor support 1280x1024
[07:36] <cdubya> mugzie, get the .bin file
[07:36] <njdavid> But it's at 1152x864 now.
[07:36] <mugzie> there both.bin
[07:36] <mugzie> ones rpm tho
[07:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell njdavid about fixres
[07:37] <mugzie> ones rpm.bin
[07:37] <silvalynin> hmm how would I be able to access all of my music that's on my Windows partition?
[07:37] <cdubya> mugzie, download the one that says "Linux self-extracting file"
[07:37] <bimberi> Centaur5: double-click on the volume applet - I have a separate Headphone volume slider
[07:37] <cdubya> silvalynin, mount the partition
[07:38] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[07:38] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:38] <njdavid> bimberi, I've already done that and added it when I reconfigured, it's not available as an option in preferences.
[07:38] <Centaur5> bimberi: Okay, I already checked that.  I guess there probably isn't good enough support for my sound card.
[07:38] <miguelsr> does ubuntu have an internal firewall like windows?
[07:38] <bimberi> njdavid: hmmk
[07:39] <bimberi> Centaur5: do you have the ALSA mixer selected (File -> Change Device)?
[07:39] <Centaur5> bimberi: Yeah, there's just master and pcm
[07:39] <pemdasi> !fixres
[07:39] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:39] <dli> miguelsr, don't worry about it, ubuntu is secure by default, while windows in insecure by default
[07:40] <bimberi> Centaur5: ok, i'm out then sorry :|
[07:40] <silvalynin> bimberi can you tell me how I would go about running diskmounter, i'm a complete linux noob, this is my first time ever using it
[07:40] <intelikey> light weight text and graphical  user friendly.
[07:41] <cdubya> silvalynin, it tells you how on that wiki link he gave earlier
[07:41] <Centaur5> bimberi: Thanks, it's not your fault.  I just read that I should be able to adjust that and I wanted to double check that I was doing it right.
[07:41] <intelikey> in the repos
[07:41] <cdubya> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:41] <silvalynin> "Save this file on your local hard drive"
[07:41] <silvalynin> save the web page?
[07:42] <bimberi> silvalynin: yes
[07:42] <bimberi> silvalynin: then open a terminal, 'cd Desktop'  (or wherever it saved the file) and 'sudo bash diskmounter'
[07:43] <silvalynin> alright i did it, thanks
[07:44] <grte> Hey, can anybody tell me how I can grep a man page?
[07:46] <intelikey> grte via man ?    man /path/to/file
[07:46] <Meshezabeel> Greetings, can anyone tell me if there is something included in Ubuntu that is not included in Edubuntu?
[07:46] <grte> The man file is in gz, though.  I tried grepping it directly and got nothing.
[07:46] <cdubya> better call it a night. g'nite all
[07:46] <intelikey> man can do files as well as the normal man pages
[07:46] <Meshezabeel> g'nite cdubya
[07:46] <grte> Yeah, I get that.
[07:47] <bimberi> grte: man -P cat whatever | grep string
[07:47] <grte> What I'm wondering, though, is how I can grep a man page to show the entries I'm looking for.
[07:47] <bimberi> ?
[07:47] <silvalynin> i can't play mp3's...
[07:47] <bimberi> '-P cat'  is use cat as the pager
[07:48] <intelikey> gzip -v blah | grep string     maybe what you are askinf
[07:48] <tokennrg> or use zcat
[07:48] <bimberi> yes zcat
[07:48] <grte> Okay, I'll give that a try.
[07:48] <silvalynin> what program should i use to play mp3's?
[07:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell silvalynin about mp3
[07:49] <bimberi> !mp3
[07:49] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:49] <silvalynin> by default it's trying to use Totem movie player
[07:49] <silvalynin> oo
[07:49] <Madpilot> silvalynin, see the pm the bot just sent you
[07:49] <silvalynin> thanks
[07:49] <whyami> is there a way to convert a Debian system to ubuntu? I tried changing the sources list to Breezy and did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Now some things (like sudo for example) are broken.
[07:50] <det> What is the best way to enable beagle when I log in?
[07:50] <tokennrg> whyami: I've got to think that probably won't work well
[07:50] <whyami> tokennrg: well...it didn't! :-)
[07:51] <Meshezabeel> whyami, back up files you need and wipe your system
[07:51] <whyami> Meshezabeel: then run the install CD?
[07:51] <intelikey> whyami sudo is over rated anyway.   remove -purge it and reinstalle it....
[07:51] <Meshezabeel> whyami yes
[07:51] <mugzie> im still having problems i did exactly what the wiki said and firefox stilll says i dont have java runtime enviorment?
[07:52] <ferronica> whyvas; wilu help me
[07:52] <Madpilot> mugzie, did you follow the "Selecting the default Java version" section of the wiki page?
[07:52] <Meshezabeel> install cd will let you wipe your existing debian partition anyhow
[07:52] <ferronica> whyvas; if u dont hav any probelm???
[07:52] <mugzie> grr no i didnt let me do that
[07:53] <ferronica> whyvas; can i burn CD in ubuntu???
[07:53] <Madpilot> ferronica, of course. Stick a blank CD in, and Ubuntu should popup a window asking you what you want to do with it
[07:54] <intelikey> Meshezabeel unless you are a pretty good hand at linux the install cd wont let you install on a partition with files still on it....
[07:54] <ferronica> whyvas; So there is no need to launch application first???
[07:55] <Madpilot> ferronica, just stick a blank CD in and watch what happens...
[07:55] <intelikey> Madpilot yes.  now what is the ubuntu way to stop it from doing that ?
[07:55] <Meshezabeel> intelikey, there's an option on the CD to "erase existing partition", haven't ever needed it though so I'm not sure
[07:55] <ferronica> Madpilot: If i wanna to launch application???
[07:55] <Madpilot> ferronica & intelikey: just close the popup window and open whatever other burning app you want to use
[07:55] <ferronica> Madpilot: wanna to see options, bcoz in synaptic it shows me installed
[07:55] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[07:56] <mugzie> ok now in terminal i get there are 3 alternatives which provide java which one do ipick
[07:56] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok let me insert one blank CD ok
[07:56] <Madpilot> mugzie, the one that says "sun" in the name somewhere
[07:56] <Meshezabeel> I am currently using Edubuntu in the lab at the school, but am wondering does Ubuntu also come with KTouch? I'm trying to find app lists on the different distributsions, but they all seem very vague. If someone can direct me to a page that lists all apps that would also be helpful.
[07:56] <intelikey> Madpilot not my question.   i mean make it stop "auto-detecting" things like the insertion of a cd
[07:57] <jake_> is there a howto on modifying the standard initrd?
[07:57] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <Madpilot> intelikey, there's a checkbox on the "I've found a blank CD" popup, I think
[07:57] <mugzie> nope no sun in the name i got usr/bin/gij-wrapper4.0  isr/lib/jvm/java-gjc/bin/java or usr/lib/jse/1.4/bin/java
[07:57] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[07:57] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok i hav inserted one blank CD, but i wanna to make one mp3
[07:58] <Madpilot> mugzie, you want the jse one, I think
[07:58] <ferronica> Madpilot: there is no option to creat Mp3 playback
[07:58] <mugzie> ok thanks
[07:58] <jake_> I figured out how to extract the existing initrd, and made the modifications I want, but can't rebuild it
[07:59] <Madpilot> ferronica, you can get mp3 support in Serpentine to get mp3s onto an audio CD, I think (I have no music in mp3, so I'm not sure...)
[07:59] <intelikey> jake_ man mkcramfs
[07:59] <jake_> thanks intelikey
[07:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: Is it available in synaptic pacakge manager
[07:59] <Meshezabeel> biberi, are these packages all included in the Live CD, or do some have to be downloaded and installed from repositories?
[08:00] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[08:00] <jake_> it seems to be a cifo archive though
[08:00] <ferronica> Madpilot: Or i hav to install it from outside
[08:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerpentineHowTo
[08:01] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: that's everything.  LiveCD only has a selection
[08:01] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, spelled your name wrong above
[08:01] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: i got it eventually :)
[08:01] <Meshezabeel> :)
[08:01] <monsterb> What's command to list details about a drive?
[08:02] <DBO> hdparm /dev/<drive>
[08:02] <pemdasi> monsterb what kind of details?
[08:02] <intelikey> fkisk -l /dev/blah
[08:02] <pemdasi> df -h
[08:02] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, I am looking for the apps that are directly available on the live/desktop CD
[08:02] <fiend> fkisk?
[08:02] <Madpilot> ferronica, just a sec, there's an "adding mp3 support to Serpentine" tutorial somewhere...
[08:02] <pemdasi> if you just want space used/free
[08:02] <pemdasi> on all mounted drives
[08:02] <intelikey> pemdasi hmmm that ould only list fs stats
[08:02] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: yes, unfortunately i don't know where that's listed sorry :|
[08:03] <pemdasi> intelikey yeah, not sure what kind of information they want
[08:03] <monsterb> pemdasi: file sizes and how much space is avail
[08:04] <intelikey> du   df    file    stat     all good commends
[08:04] <Apostle^> how do i make evolution stay in tray when i hit the X ?
[08:05] <ferronica> Madpilot: Ok i found it
[08:05] <mugzie> grr it still says i dont got it damnit im so mad
[08:05] <coolio> im trying to isntall mythtv and im having a bit of trouble and im sort of a newbie. I read a tutorial and in one of the commands that i have to execute it is this: "modprobe ivtv"
[08:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: i hav just added 193 MB size mp3
[08:06] <ferronica> Madpilot: and it telling me disc capacity exceeded
[08:06] <coolio> But i get an error saying: "Fatal: Module ivtv not found."
[08:06] <coolio> http://s91928265.onlinehome.us/hfamily/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[08:06] <coolio> that is the tutorial
[08:06] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, ok thanks :)
[08:06] <coolio> i was hoping that someone can tell me why it doesnt work.... :)
[08:06] <Madpilot> ferronica, odd - you did add the mp3 support to Serpentine?
[08:07] <Apostle^> anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: i added nothing
[08:07] <intelikey> 193m mp3  lol  what is it four weeks of music ?
[08:07] <ferronica> Madpilot: just opened it
[08:08] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:08] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:08] <monsterb> !freespace
[08:08] <ubotu> monsterb: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:08] <ferronica> Madpilot: can i download it vis synaptic pacakage manager???
[08:08] <intelikey> monsterb df
[08:08] <mugzie> man i can believe this didnt work im so dang frustrated is there anyway i can use the synaptic to install java runtime enviorment to my firefox?
[08:09] <Madpilot> ferronica, no, you need to edit one bit of Serpentine's settings to get mp3 to burn
[08:09] <Apostle^> anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?
[08:09] <monsterb> intelikey: thx
[08:09] <mugzie> anyone?
[08:10] <intelikey> monsterb no problem.  but it was answered by several when you first asked.
[08:10] <fiend> mugzie, have you search packages.ubuntu.com?
[08:10] <mugzie> no i havent
[08:10] <Madpilot> ferronica, gah, sorry, I'm not thinking now - it's late - AFAIK if you can play mp3 in Ubuntu, you should be able to play them
[08:11] <intelikey> hmmm no festival for ub5.4 ???
[08:11] <Madpilot> burn them, even...
[08:12] <bimberi> !info festival hoary
[08:12] <ubotu> festival: (general multi-lingual speech synthesis system), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.4.3-16 (hoary), Packaged size: 841 kB, Installed size: 2516 kB
[08:13] <bimberi> intelikey: seems it's there
[08:13] <ferronica1> ??????????????????????
[08:13] <Apostle^> anyone know how to activate putting evolution into system tray?
[08:13] <ferronica1> Madpilot: what i hav to ADD in serpetine????????????
[08:14] <ferronica1> Madpilot: to creat mp3 CD
[08:14] <Madpilot> ferronica, can you play mp3s in Ubuntu? If you can, you should be able to burn mp3s into audio w/ Serpentine
[08:14] <ferronica1> Madpilot: YES, i use VLC player tp play
[08:15] <ferronica1> Madpilot: i am able to add mp3 to serpetine but it shpwing me space eceeded
[08:15] <ferronica1> Madpilot: disk capacity exceeded
[08:15] <Madpilot> ferronica1, that I'm not sure about, but you should be able to burn the things, at least
[08:16] <intelikey> bimberi ah yes forgot i had disabled some repos for a forced downgrade....   ;/
[08:16] <bimberi> intelikey: aha :)
[08:17] <Trashcan> :( 168kb/s, 1h15m33s remaining :(
[08:18] <intelikey> one thing about tweeking the whole box... one can forget what they have and haven't changed.....    "except there is nothing i haven't changed...."
 Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <ferronica1> HELP!
[08:22] <Trashcan> ferronica1> any one here uses to burn mp3 <--- was that a sentence?
[08:23] <monsterb> Trashcan: Are u a english teacher? lol
[08:23] <Trashcan> nope, but he's being pushy and didn't even ask a question :o
[08:23] <ferronica1> Trashcan: if u can understand fine
[08:23] <monsterb> I like cheese.
[08:24] <Trashcan> lol
[08:24] <ferronica1> Trashcan: no time to explain whole thing
[08:24] <ferronica1> Trashcan: Do u know???
[08:24] <Trashcan> know WHAT?
[08:24] <ferronica1> Trashcan: to burn Mp3 CD
[08:24] <Trashcan> take time to explain *something*
[08:24] <aftertaf> ferronica1, what is your actual question?
[08:24] <monsterb> ferronical: use k3b to burn mp3s to CD.
[08:25] <aftertaf> ^^ yes
[08:25] <ferronica1> aftertaf: i wanna to creat mp3 CD using serpetine
[08:25] <ferronica1> aftertaf: i hav serpetine installed
[08:25] <aftertaf> never used it. k3b myself...
[08:26] <aftertaf> !serpentine
[08:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf
[08:26] <ferronica1> aftertaf: dont know why it showing capacity exceeded
[08:26] <aftertaf> before you burn?
[08:26] <aftertaf> how many minutes?
[08:27] <ferronica1> aftertaf: by default sets to 42 miniutes
[08:27] <ferronica1> aftertaf: but my CD is 700Mb which means 80 miniutes
[08:27] <aftertaf> by default? you mean it will only burn 42 mins of audio?
[08:28] <drcode> any one know about video card?
[08:28] <aftertaf> ferronica1, try k3b..... seriously
[08:28] <drcode> I Need to know what is the best
[08:28] <drcode> GIGABYTE nVidia PCX6600GT
[08:28] <drcode> 128MB DDR3, MEM CLOCK 1000, TV, 128BIT, DVI, SILENT PIPE
[08:28] <drcode> and GIGABYTE nVidia PCX6600GT
[08:28] <drcode> 256MB DDR2, MEM CLOCK 1000, TV, 128BIT, DVI, HDTV
[08:28] <monsterb> ferronical: how many mp3s are u trying to burn?
[08:28] <aftertaf> ferronica1, its like nero...as easy to use
[08:28] <ferronica1> aftertaf: what abot gnome baker
[08:28] <aftertaf> monsterb, it only proposes 42mins of burning....
[08:29] <aftertaf> ferronica1, the only soft to burn cds that i've managed to get working easily is k3b. so i stick withn it.
[08:29] <ferronica1> aftertaf: hav u ever used it
[08:29] <ferronica1> aftertaf: Gnome baker
[08:30] <aftertaf> no never
[08:30] <killapop> ferronica1: gnomebaker is very good
[08:30] <monsterb> aftertaf: on ferronical computer or all? mine goes up to 90min
[08:30] <Madpilot> ferronica1, in Serpentine, there should be a dropdown to chose the length/size of the CD you're using
[08:30] <aftertaf> monsterb, on ferronica1 's pc...
[08:30] <killapop> ferronica1: i used both k3b and gnomebaker and they're both good.
[08:30] <monsterb> aftertaf: oh
[08:30] <user429> since you're talking about CD burning, I have a question when you've solved the current issue, if no one minds
[08:31] <aftertaf> lol
[08:31] <aftertaf> ask.
[08:31] <DBO> user429, go ahead and ask now
[08:31] <aftertaf> complications help make things easier to mess up/ er i mean understand...
[08:31] <alex_joni> is there a channel for developers ?
[08:31] <ferronica1> aftertaf: can i send u one screen shot???
[08:31] <user429> I just tried to burn a CD with Serpentine, after downloading the right packages to get it to read Mp3 files...
[08:31] <monsterb> aftertaf ferronical : I agree, k3b would be the best - just like nero
[08:31] <user429> it only burned 3 audio tracks, and finished
[08:31] <aftertaf> ferronica1, ive never used the others..... did you see what Madpilot said?
[08:31] <Madpilot> alex_joni, #ubuntu-devel
[08:32] <aftertaf> user429, argh!!!!!!! k3b :]
[08:32] <user429> the CD plays fine... it doesn't seem to be a bad burn... but it only contains 3 tracks
[08:32] <user429> of 16
[08:32] <alex_joni> Madpilot: thx
[08:32] <ferronica1> in Serpentine, there should be a dropdown to chose the length/size of the CD you're using
[08:32] <user429> so I should just get k3b, eh? I used it once from some other LiveCD Dist.
[08:33] <DBO> user429, k3b is the best, I like it better than nero
[08:33] <wacko> is it possible for a cd burner to break if you burn data for a few hours?
[08:33] <ferronica1> Madpilot: can i send u screen shot
[08:33] <monsterb> user429: k3b would b my choice
[08:33] <user429> wacko: I would hope not
[08:34] <Madpilot> ferronica1, hmm, what of?
[08:34] <DBO> wacko, its possible for it to break doing just about anything...  its not likely though
[08:34] <wacko> k3b is my choice as well
[08:34] <ferronica1> Madpilot: Serpetine window
[08:34] <wacko> o well i am burning 160 gigs of data tonight and hope i dont break my burner
[08:34] <wacko> dvds
[08:34] <aftertaf> wacko, thats a BIG DVD dude ;)
[08:34] <ferronica1> Madpilot: where it showing me error
[08:34] <user429> thanks. I'm sort of still a linux n00b, so I was just trying to make do with whatever was lying around in Ubuntu
[08:34] <noiesmo> k3b rocks my world best burning app I reakon
[08:34] <wacko> aftertaf: it is many dvds lol
[08:34] <monsterb> Madpilot: lol
[08:35] <wacko> wish i had double layer discs
[08:35] <ferronica1> Madpilot: disc usge: 42 miniutes and 21 seconds overlapping
[08:35] <aftertaf> user429, apt-get k3b :)
[08:35] <aftertaf> ferronica1, did you find the size of CD dialog?
[08:35] <DBO> wacko, you will right until you look how long they take to burn
[08:35] <ferronica1> Madpilot: disc cpacity: 80 miniutes
[08:35] <monsterb> ferronical: do u have a blank cd in drive?
[08:35] <wacko> DBO: double layer takes longer?
[08:36] <DBO> wacko, much
[08:36] <Madpilot> ferronica1, so you've got 120 minutes of music, or what?
[08:36] <aftertaf> never tried double yet....
[08:36] <ferronica1> aftertaf: u mean disc capacity
[08:36] <aftertaf> ferronica1, yup
[08:36] <wacko> DBO: because more data or because the technology is not up to par yet?
[08:36] <user429> aftertaf: am I a loser for using synaptic? hehe
[08:37] <aftertaf> user429, heheh yes.
[08:37] <ferronica1> Madpilot: it showing me 42 miniutes and 21 seconds overlapping
[08:37] <aftertaf> user429, certainly not ;P
[08:37] <DBO> wacko, burning more data = longer burn time, and the newer format also has slower burn rates
[08:37] <monsterb> ferronical: im burning 78min worth of music right now on Serpentine ... it works good.
[08:38] <wacko> just got done burning all my music and it was 9 dvds lol
[08:38] <metatag> cat: hi
[08:38] <ferronica1> Madpilot: and just below disc capacity exceeded!
[08:38] <cat> hey is there any automounting bash script for example to automount a windows hd so i can listen to music
[08:38] <cat> hey metatag
[08:38] <Madpilot> ferronica1, all I can think if is that there's something wrong with your mp3s...
[08:38] <wacko> cat: put it in fstab
[08:38] <DBO> !tell cat about fstab
[08:39] <ferronica1> Madpilot: accept one file
[08:39] <metatag> aeon17x: hi
[08:40] <ferronica1> Madpilot: accept it, its a screen shot
[08:40] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[08:40] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:40] <Madpilot> ferronica1, use imageshack - I do not accept files thru IRC
[08:41] <monsterb> Madpilot: beware of screenshots - lol
[08:41] <wacko> lol
[08:41] <wacko> ferronica1: give us a link
[08:41] <metatag> wacko: hi
[08:41] <wacko> metatag: yes?
[08:41] <mud2005> presario 5000z laptop:I had to use acpi=off to get my built in wireless card to work but now I cant see how much battery is left??? and apm isnt supported, what do I do?
[08:41] <metatag> wacko: how are you?
[08:41] <wacko> good!!!!!!!!!!
[08:41] <ferronica> Madpilot: r u there
[08:41] <user429> dang, 5k mhz.... awesome
[08:42] <user429> = )
[08:42] <wacko> burning my 160 gigs of data to many dvds tonight
[08:42] <Madpilot> ferronica, pastebin (or imageshack...) the screenie, then post the URL here
[08:42] <wacko> my storage hard drive is failing
[08:42] <metatag> wacko: why is it failing?
[08:43] <wacko> metatag: i dont know it sucks bady i am getting input/output errors and it mounted itself as read only
[08:43] <ferronica> Madpilot: what is imageshack
[08:44] <wacko> ferronica: a website to upload images
[08:44] <Madpilot> imageshack.us - a free image hosting service.
[08:44] <metatag> wacko: ohh why don't you see a doctor?
[08:44] <monsterb> wacko: Are u going to scrap it or try to repair it with a low-level format?
[08:44] <wacko> metatag: your very funny
[08:44] <metatag> wacko: thanks
[08:44] <wacko> ferronica: upload your screenshot here http://www.desktoprating.com/
[08:45] <user429> wacko, GRC.com's SpinRite is awesome
[08:45] <me2win> Madpilot: on packages.ubuntu.com, do i need to download all the dependencies of something, or if is there a "all together" kind of thing?
[08:45] <Madpilot> me2win, no idea - I think you'll have to download everything individually. You can't just let apt-get/Synaptic sort all that out?
[08:45] <metatag> me2win: do you use synaptic?
[08:45] <user429> peaces
[08:46] <metatag> btw don't you people find adept buggy.. sort of?
[08:46] <scheuri> hi all
[08:46] <wacko> user i dont need to recover files i am copying them now all  iam going to fsck the disc and try to repair it after
[08:46] <monsterb> wacko: You may need a Restraining Order. metatagg like you a little too much.
[08:46] <aftertaf> metatag, tell mornfall about it on kubuntu. hes the dev ;)
[08:46] <me2win> Madpilot: well, my brother is having problems with his repos, and I wanted to try and SSH in to help him sort them out because the rrors he is getting are really wierd. But Since the repos are screwed, he would need to get the pkg from the website
[08:46] <wacko> monsterb: i dont see why he would
[08:47] <aftertaf> wacko, my /tmp-/var partition does that sometimes. spooky :/
[08:47] <metatag> aftertaf: ok
[08:47] <Madpilot> me2win, sounds like it might be easier to just rebuild his sources.list
[08:47] <Madpilot> me2win, to use different repos
[08:47] <me2win> Madpilot: we have several times over, still something is wrong
[08:47] <wacko> aftertaf: your temp has input/output errors sometimes?
[08:47] <me2win> Madpilot: like i said, its something really wierd going on
[08:47] <monsterb> wacko: what filesystem were u using?
[08:48] <wacko> monsterb: ext3
[08:48] <ferronica> Madpilot: where is the option to upload
[08:48] <aftertaf> wacko, yep
[08:48] <aftertaf> wacko, separate partition.
[08:48] <Madpilot> ferronica, from what?
[08:48] <wacko> aftertaf: you partion must be failing as well
[08:48] <chripher> does somebody know how to get a g400 to work in ubuntu
[08:48] <aftertaf> happy happy joy joy :(
[08:49] <aftertaf> chripher, with ppc install cd?
[08:49] <scheuri> chripher: you mean a geforce? Nvidia?
[08:49] <chripher> no Matrox
[08:49] <scheuri> uh? g400 is a ppc?
[08:49] <scheuri> ah
[08:49] <ferronica> Madpilot: image shack
[08:49] <chripher> no ppc
[08:49] <chripher> inte p3
[08:49] <chripher> intel
[08:49] <ferronica> Madpilot: i am sending u file accept it please
[08:49] <Madpilot> ferronica, there should be a button that says "Upload Image" or something like that
[08:49] <scheuri> chripher: your xserver is not running then?
[08:50] <ferronica> Madpilot: that one is tidious
[08:50] <chripher> no I am running on default xorg.conf now
[08:50] <chamo> what's the best linux software (except OOo) for creating Chart ???
[08:50] <me2win> Kspread?
[08:51] <chripher> the only think I have done is tweaked the refresh rake to 120 but I only get 75  anyway
[08:51] <Madpilot> ferronica, I don't accept files via IRC, ever. Sorry.
[08:51] <scheuri> chripher: okay..are you familiar with editing xorg.conf on CLI?
[08:51] <chamo> hnmmm
[08:51] <chripher> no not much I guess CLI is a editor
[08:51] <ferronica> Madpilot: why????????????/////
[08:51] <scheuri> !cli
[08:51] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:52] <Madpilot> ferronica, because blocking dcc & such makes life much simpler
[08:52] <chripher> with nano then or ?
[08:52] <scheuri> chripher: yes...nano, vi, vim...whatever suits you
[08:52] <chripher> yes it would be nice to learn some of them
[08:52] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok forget it, tell me what others talking abot k3b
[08:53] <chripher> I got het package fram matrox homepage but the how do not work
[08:53] <scheuri> chripher: well...I can't teach you here, sorry...it is kinda difficult via IRC, but we may find out what driver your xserver is using
[08:53] <scheuri> chripher: ah, I see...that packaged is supposed to? contain a driver? do something special?
[08:54] <chripher> scheuri: when I write "sudo sh install.sh" it says that some dir is not found
[08:55] <scheuri> chripher: what dir?
[08:55] <ferronica> what other guys talking about cd burner software
[08:55] <chripher> I don not rember now but if I try can I go back with "sudo sh install.sh restore" ?
[08:55] <Meshezabeel> you guys still using dapper drake?
[08:56] <Madpilot> ferronica, Applications->Add Applications, search for k3b or Gnomebaker there
[08:56] <chripher> no I use breezy I got the wrong dist
[08:57] <scheuri> chripher: sorry, I can't help you there...
[08:57] <chripher> scheuri: just a moment
[08:57] <scheuri> Meshezabeel: what do you mean by STILL using dapper?
[08:58] <ferronica> Madpilot: i did already
[08:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: track is toooo large to fit in the remainig space on the CD
[08:59] <ferronica> Madpilot: what dose that mean
[09:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, if that's with k3b, then the problem is your mp3 files...
[09:00] <monsterb> Meshezabeel: yes - the best beta i ever used.
[09:00] <user429> I figured out my problem with Serpentine... or rather that my problem was not with S...
[09:00] <ferronica> Madpilot: right now i am using gnomebaker
[09:00] <Madpilot> ferronica, given that you
[09:01] <user429> Thanks to k3b's debug output option when an error occurs, I found that my crappy RW drive on this machine had an underrun
[09:01] <Madpilot> 've gotten the same error w/ two burning apps, I'd say there's something messed up with your mp3s...
[09:01] <ferronica> Madpilot: ok
[09:01] <ferronica> Madpilot: but all of them are in mp3 format
[09:02] <monsterb> ferronica: do u even have a burner?
[09:02] <ferronica> monsterb: yes one CD-RW and another is DVD-RW
[09:03] <monsterb> ferronica: rip some fresh mp3s from a CD - and try it again - see if it works
[09:05] <chripher> scheuri: Can I send you the error msg in private
[09:05] <ferronica> monsterb: hey in GNOMEBAKER which option to select to creat mp3
[09:05] <scheuri> chripher: feel free
[09:05] <wacko> Chri[s] : we are not good enough to see the error?
[09:05] <scheuri> ;)
[09:06] <wacko> chripher: *
[09:06] <monsterb> ferronica: i don't have GBAker installed.
[09:06] <ferronica> monsterb: what u use???
[09:06] <monsterb> k3b
[09:06] <ferronica> monsterb: i wanna to creat mp3 CD not audio CD
[09:07] <chripher> wacko: what ?
[09:07] <monsterb> ferronica: make a data cd
[09:07] <wacko> chripher: not much
[09:07] <ferronica> monsterb: to play back in mp3 player
[09:08] <ferronica> monsterb: if i created data my player wont detect it
[09:08] <monsterb> ferronica: data cd will do the trick
[09:08] <chripher> wacko: do you know much about how to install gfx-cards
[09:08] <scheuri> chripher: you can also sent the error message to all...:)
[09:08] <wacko> chripher: in windows i can
[09:08] <ferronica> monsterb: in creating data no problem
[09:09] <Madpilot> chripher, if it's a long error message, use pastebin and just post the pastebin URL here
[09:09] <chripher> wacko: me to ... but not ubuntu
[09:09] <ferronica> monsterb: but there is no such option to creat mp3
[09:09] <wacko> chripher: thats is a good reason you should not run linux
[09:09] <chripher> Madpilot: ehm
[09:09] <aftertaf> ferronica, get k3b and try
[09:09] <ferronica> monsterb: how to install it tell mw
[09:09] <chripher> wacko: how should I learn then
[09:09] <monsterb> ferronica: it should be the same thing - a data cd with mp3s on it.
[09:09] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install k3b*
[09:10] <wacko> chripher: pull out your windows install cd and put it in your cd drive and reboot j/k
[09:10] <chripher> Madpilot: how to pastebin
[09:10] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell chripher about pastebin
[09:10] <ferronica> monsterb: if i creat data CD, i can only able to play in computer
[09:11] <aftertaf> chripher, what gfx card model?
[09:11] <wacko> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[09:11] <scheuri> wacko: that suggestion was off limits in my opinion...there are surely things which are easier in windows than linux, but still...he asked for help
[09:11] <coolio> how do i login as root?
[09:11] <wacko> scheuri: i was just kidding did not mean to be an ass
[09:11] <coolio> in console
[09:11] <ferronica> monsterb: So there is no option to creat Mp3
[09:11] <chripher> aha
[09:11] <scheuri> wacko: the desktop...on the CD...ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu with KDE
[09:11] <monsterb> ferronica: have u tried it?   Thats how I make mine.  I put about 200 mp3s on a data CD - and it plays on my home tv/dvd player.
[09:12] <scheuri> wacko: but you can have both desktops on both "versions", you just need to download the respective other desktop
[09:12] <wacko> scheuri: thank you i run gentoo so i would not no and i dont know why i am in here just good chat i guess
[09:12] <ferronica> monsterb: dose it worked
[09:12] <aftertaf> ferronica, try with k3b... if that doesnt work then the problem  is elsewhere
[09:12] <monsterb> ferronica: yes
[09:12] <scheuri> wacko: don't worry...I didnt want to offend you...but it somehow bothers me when people answer like "take windows"
[09:13] <ferronica> monsterb: if i use data CD not gettin any problem even serpetine
[09:13] <aftertaf> argh!!!!
[09:13] <chripher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13824
[09:13] <wacko> scheuri: it should bother you  i dont even like the sound of windows
[09:13] <scheuri> :)
[09:14] <monsterb> ferronica: serpentine is for audio - it converts mp3 to wav to cd --- use k3b to make a mp3 data CD.
[09:14] <aftertaf> ferronica, please try k3b, just to make us happy.......
[09:14] <ferronica> monsterb: and in GNOMEBAKER????
[09:14] <ferronica> monsterb: ok okay
[09:15] <ferronica> monsterb: how to install k3b
[09:15] <scheuri> chripher: I guess (emphasis on guess) that this package wants to install on another X-server, not the one that is shipped with breezy badger
[09:15] <aftertaf> type in console: sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:15] <ferronica> ok
[09:15] <wacko> k3b is great hope they make a windows version some day so i can install it on all the computers i work on for people
[09:15] <aftertaf> ferronica, ^^^^^
[09:15] <wacko> heck with nero
[09:15] <scheuri> chripher: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/MatroxParhelia
[09:16] <ferronica> monsterb: should i uninstall the GNOMEBAKER
[09:16] <wacko> anyone try the game enemy territory?
[09:16] <monsterb> ferronica: use Synaptic to install k3b - - try out Gnomebaker, u might llike it.
[09:17] <scheuri> wacko: a while ago, yes...works on linux and windows quite well (taken that linux has appropriate 3d-driver for graphics
[09:17] <wacko> scheuri: it is very fun game did you ever try to get the joystick working?
[09:18] <scheuri> wacko: no, sorry...I dont have one...was never an option for me
[09:18] <chripher> aftertaf: it is Matrox Milenium G400 Max
[09:18] <chripher> not parhelia
[09:18] <starkes> does anyone out there know if there is a way to get synaptic, or apt i guess, to rebuild its list of packages you have? mine isnt showing all my installed packages, its over 1000 short...
[09:18] <monsterb> ferronica: Gnomebaker and k3b are pretty darn close. Try both out, see what u like better.
[09:18] <wacko> first person shooters are better with mouse and keyboard but i wanted to give the joystick a try wit hthis game
[09:19] <scheuri> chripher: okay, true...but your one should be supported by the driver that already comes with badger (and the installed xserver)
[09:22] <PrimoTurbo> What do you guys like more human or tango?
[09:22] <PrimoTurbo> icon themes
[09:24] <sanych_laptop> Whats is the URL for sync clock in 5.10 - ubuntulinux.org or .com?
[09:25] <Old> How do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz
[09:26] <llama-duck> hi folks...
[09:26] <ferronica> monsterb: its big software i think???
[09:27] <ferronica> monsterb: it took 10 miniutes to download from termianl
[09:27] <llama-duck> has anyone else upgraded ther kernel and can't find the kernel headers ?
[09:27] <monsterb> ferronica: good luck
[09:28] <ferronica> monsterb: listen listen
[09:28] <llama-duck> I moved to 2.6.12-11-686, and there's no headers package :'(
[09:28] <ferronica> monsterb: writer speed verification-K3b
[09:29] <ferronica> monsterb: CD-RW writing speed = 99x
[09:29] <ferronica> monsterb: DVD-RW writing speed = 48x
[09:29] <aftertaf> 99x ?
[09:29] <aftertaf> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[09:30] <ferronica> aftertaf: so high lol
[09:30] <ferronica> aftertaf: so high lol
[09:30] <aftertaf> suspects a bork somewhere
[09:31] <ferronica> aftertaf: what???
[09:31] <scheuri> llama-duck: is your linux-header not listed at a "aptitude search linux-headers"?
[09:31] <ferronica> aftertaf: what???
[09:32] <ferronica> aftertaf: there is option to increase and decrease writing speed
[09:32] <Chri[s] > select a writing speed
[09:33] <ferronica> Chris[s] : how much for cd-rw
[09:33] <ferronica> Chris[s] : how much for cd-rw = 52x
[09:34] <chripher> scheuri: you still here
[09:34] <mud2005> presario 5000z laptop:I had to use acpi=off to get my built in wireless card to work but now I cant see how much battery is left??? and apm isnt supported, what do I do?
[09:35] <llama-duck> scheuri: no - it's not listed
[09:35] <scheuri> chripher: yes
[09:35] <scheuri> llama-duck: that is really odd...are you on breezy badger or dapper drake?
[09:36] <chripher> scheuri: do you know if DRI also is in breezy
[09:36] <llama-duck> badger
[09:36] <scheuri> chripher: it surely should...you might to have install it actually...not sure
[09:36] <scheuri> llama-duck: oh..that might be the reason...maybe they follow in a few days
[09:37] <llama-duck> II have 2.6.12-11-686  and the latest version listed is linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686
[09:37] <chripher> scheuri: how to check tha out ?
[09:37] <llama-duck> scheuri: gah!
[09:37] <scheuri> chripher: good question...you just crossed the point where I am lost as well...:)
[09:37] <chripher> scheuri: btw some more easy question how to play mp3 in a good sleak player
[09:38] <scheuri> llama-duck: and that does not work with these two?
[09:38] <schizoschaf> hi
[09:38] <scheuri> chripher: well, I use amarok or xmms...but there are many others...
[09:38] <schizoschaf> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition3: Partition ends in the final partial cyli
[09:38] <schizoschaf> cfdisk says this ^^ and doesn't start
[09:38] <llama-duck> it works, but I can't compile a vmware module...
[09:38] <schizoschaf> anyone has an idea
[09:38] <chripher> scheuri: is there any one like winamp
[09:38] <llama-duck> same old story I guess
[09:38] <schizoschaf> ?
[09:38] <scheuri> chripher: I guess xmms is nearest to winamp
[09:39] <chripher> scheuri: and then I mean the old one
[09:39] <Chri[s] > how come i cant make an icon to lauch 'wine ./wine/drive_c/Program Files/PokerStars/PokerStars.exe' ?
[09:39] <scheuri> llama-duck: aaahh...vmware...well...thanks for the tip...wont upgrade my badger today..;)..
[09:39] <Old> How do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz
[09:39] <DBO> llama-duck, isnt the newest version of linux-image-686 <IP_ADDRESS>, which doesn have a header package
[09:39] <chripher> scheuri:  is xmms package name can I use apt-get
[09:40] <aftertaf> yes.
[09:40] <scheuri> chripher: yes, but if you are not sure, try a "aptitude search xmms" first, it will list everything with xmms in their name
[09:40] <aftertaf> in doubt, try apt-cache search [package]
[09:40] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:40] <llama-duck> DBO: it might be the newest, but I have 2.6.12-10-686
[09:40] <scheuri> :)
[09:41] <DBO> llama-duck, try sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 linux-headers-686
[09:41] <chripher> scheuri: what is command fore search
[09:41] <Chri[s] > what is the difference between 386 and 686
[09:42] <scheuri> chripher: which command?
[09:42] <chripher> Chri[s] : good question
[09:42] <aftertaf> optimised kernel.
[09:42] <DBO> Chri[s] , a 686 kernel takes advantage of instruction sets that 386 wont
[09:42] <aftertaf> one for pentium compatible and up, one for P3/p4
[09:42] <shadukan> hi again
[09:43] <shadukan> after long time
[09:43] <chripher> scheuri: fore seraching for package
[09:43] <Old> Anyone ?
[09:43] <Old> How do i create a user account that has access to 3 specefic maps, and the user will "spawn" in this directory aswell, the home dir for that user would be /home/ , the user should only have access to /var/www, home/ftp, /home/cz
[09:43] <scheuri> chripher: aptitude search [name]
[09:44] <chripher> scheuri: ah thanks
[09:44] <scheuri> chripher: welcome
[09:45] <chripher> scheuri: how come I can not see smb's when I browse my Desktop but they are there ?
[09:45] <scheuri> chripher: smbs?
[09:45] <eso3a> hyfkruykuylkdyj
[09:45] <DBO> samba shares?
[09:45] <chripher> scheuri: windows share's
[09:46] <eso3a> yes yes you fuck tu madre
[09:46] <eso3a> fuch the mother
[09:46] <eso3a> fuck fuck fuck
[09:46] <metatag> hi eso3a
[09:46] <metatag> eso3a: how are you?
[09:46] <eso3a> hi tatag
[09:46] <eso3a> im from spain
[09:46] <eso3a> you?
[09:47] <metatag> eso3a: whats up pal? am from mauritius
[09:47] <eso3a> morocco??
[09:47] <scheuri> chripher: many reasons possible actually...
[09:47] <aftertaf> !ops
[09:47] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:47] <scheuri> chripher: best thing is to address the smb directly (including the name of share within address)
[09:47] <metatag> eso3a: no mauriitus.. small tropical island in indian ocean
[09:47] <benplaut> aftertaf: no ops at this time of night :P
[09:48] <eso3a> speak spanish tatag??
[09:48] <DBO> benplaut, naw, they just are asleep
[09:48] <metatag> eso3a: no.. but I can speak hindi
[09:48] <metatag> eso3a: namaste
[09:48] <eso3a> llevas plumas y fumas la pipa d la paz??
[09:49] <jmhodges> hey, could someone help me debug a sound issue? it was all working fine before i rebooted.. this is in dapper
[09:49] <DBO> jmhodges, whats the deal?
[09:49] <eso3a> fuck the mother tatag
[09:49] <metatag> eso3a: smoking pipes?
[09:49] <chripher> scheuri: can not paly any file
[09:49] <jmhodges> mpg123 nor rhythmbox nor totem-xine are shoving any music to my speakers
[09:49] <eso3a> yes yes chocolat
[09:49] <jmhodges> so its not a gstreamer issue
[09:49] <aftertaf> eso3a, watch your language. this is a public channel.
[09:49] <aftertaf> please...
[09:49] <metatag> eso3a: hehe you are funny...
[09:49] <scheuri> chripher: well...gimme a second
[09:49] <chripher> scheuri: bad codec says totem and xmms says nothing
[09:49] <jmhodges> im seeing that snd_ac97_codec is being used by snd_emu10k1 and snd_via82xx
[09:50] <metatag> aftertaf: did you ban him?
[09:50] <jmhodges> and i know that i have a  sound blaster card (i.e. snd_emu10k1)
[09:50] <scheuri> chripher: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for mp3
[09:50] <aftertaf> lol no
[09:50] <aftertaf> me not op.
[09:50] <jmhodges> but i'm not sure if an rmmod snd_via82xx is going to solve this
[09:50] <nalioth_zZz> aftertaf: ?
[09:50] <aftertaf> indeed nalioth_zZz  :)
[09:50] <aftertaf> hi
[09:50] <chripher> scheuri: I hade to copy to desktop to be able to play
[09:50] <jmhodges> DBO, thats the problem
[09:50] <jmhodges> heh
[09:50] <aftertaf> howdy even :]
[09:50] <DBO> jmhodges, did you just perform the upgrade?
[09:50] <scheuri> chripher: ...oh?
[09:51] <chripher> can not play through samba/windows share
[09:51] <jmhodges> DBO, nah, i did it a couple of reboots ago
[09:51] <jmhodges> DBO, it was working fine until the last reboot it seems
[09:51] <DBO> jmhodges, lets test and see if any sound works first "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[09:51] <jmhodges> iirc, there was an alsa update
[09:51] <aftertaf> yeah :)
[09:51] <DBO> jmhodges, you should get whitenoise
[09:51] <chripher> scheuri: bad thing I got all music on my windows server
[09:51] <jmhodges> DBO, yeah, no whitenoise
[09:52] <czr> cat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp is much more fun btw ;-)
[09:52] <jmhodges> the speaker is plugged straight into the snd_emu10k1 card
[09:52] <jmhodges> haha
[09:52] <chripher> scheuri: nice talking to you
[09:52] <jmhodges> it works on /dev/dsp1
[09:52] <scheuri> chripher: welcome
[09:52] <chripher> scheuri: for how long have you run Ubuntu ?
[09:52] <czr> was my first audio program back some years ago. to open 44kHz 16b stereo and put /proc/kcore there
[09:52] <jmhodges> and shocked the hell out of me when it did
[09:52] <czr> it was an interesting experience
[09:52] <DBO> jmhodges, ok, well then OSS is working
[09:52] <jmhodges> yep, seems like it
[09:52] <scheuri> chripher: nearly a year...mostly debian though
[09:52] <DBO> jmhodges, try getting one of your audio apps to use OSS and see if you get that to work
[09:53] <czr> jmhodges, for some reason the module load order is now different and your mobo integrated via82xx is loaded first hence it gets the first dsp-dev
[09:53] <chripher> scheuri: is dabber better then badger
[09:53] <jmhodges> czr, yep, thats what it sounds like
[09:53] <czr> is there a nice way to disable some specific module from loading in ubuntu?
[09:53] <czr> other than renaming the module .ko file which would be a kludge
[09:53] <DBO> you can blacklist modules
[09:53] <jmhodges> man, i remember there was one..
[09:53] <czr> how?
[09:53] <jmhodges> its kludgy
[09:53] <jmhodges> i haven thad to do it since i rana source based distro
[09:54] <DBO> !blacklist
[09:54] <czr> disabling ivp6 for one would be nice
[09:54] <scheuri> chripher: it will be surely newer...
[09:54] <jmhodges> /etc/modprobe/blacklist
[09:54] <czr> I only have /etc/modprobe.d/
[09:54] <DBO> yeah, appearantly ubotu now sends !command to /msg instead of to channel
[09:54] <czr> no blacklist there
[09:54] <jmhodges> thats odd
[09:54] <jmhodges> i definitely have one here
[09:54] <DBO> czr, just make it
[09:54] <czr> modprobe or under modprobe.d?
[09:55] <czr> where is this documented?
[09:55] <DBO> !tell czr about blacklist
[09:55] <czr> and blacklist is name of modules one per line that are not allowed to be loaded?
[09:55] <jmhodges> i just found it by pocking around my /etc heh
[09:55] <jmhodges> and its definitely modprobe.d on this machine
[09:55] <stram> FUCKING COCK SUCKER
[09:55] <stram> FUCKING BRUNNER
[09:55] <czr> thanks dbo
[09:55] <jmhodges> hmmm
[09:55] <jmhodges> weird
[09:56] <jmhodges> there is a symlink called "blacklist-oss"
[09:56] <DBO> jmhodges, that would be due to ubuntu being based off sid
[09:56] <eggzeck> maybe he did it in the wrong channel?
[09:56] <jmhodges> but its apparently not being used
[09:56] <DBO> (the modprobe.d thing)
[09:56] <jmhodges> ah there.
[09:56] <jmhodges> DBO, yeah?
[09:56] <jmhodges> meaning that this is not the proper way of doing things now?
[09:57] <DBO> no, it is the proper way, I was just explaining why its in /etc/modprobe.d instead of /etc/hotplug
[09:57] <jmhodges> ahhhh ok
[09:57] <DBO> sarge has it in the latter, sid uses the former
[09:57] <jmhodges> weird
[09:58] <jmhodges> theres a call in modprobe.d/alsa-base that cgoes like this:  options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
[09:58] <jmhodges> thats the weird thing
[09:58] <jmhodges> no mention of snd_emu10k1
[09:58] <jmhodges> wait
[09:58] <jmhodges> yes there is above it.. .an install command
[09:58] <jmhodges> wtf
[09:58] <Kismet> Hi All!
[09:59] <chripher> scheuri: what is newest firefox ver ?
[09:59] <scheuri> chripher: as far as I know it is <IP_ADDRESS>...
[10:00] <chripher> scheuri: but why does it say I got the newest then when firefox says 1.0.8
[10:00] <DBO> breezy = 1.0.7, dapper = <IP_ADDRESS>, mozilla stable = <IP_ADDRESS>, mozilla trunk = 2.0alpha
[10:00] <Kismet> All the time that I enable dri + fglrx or dri + radeon on my X.org configuration with Dapper the machine hang up... I think thare is a bug with the kernel...
[10:00] <Kismet> ...any idea?
[10:00] <DBO> chripher, yeah, you are on breezy, thats the latest version for breezy
[10:01] <chripher> DBO: can't I have 1.5 on breezy
[10:01] <chripher> blh
[10:01] <DBO> !tell chripher about ff1.5
[10:01] <scheuri> chripher: well, there are different releases...one is 1.0.x and one is 1.5.x
[10:01] <DBO> Kismet, running xgl?
[10:01] <chripher> how to upgrade to dapper ?
[10:01] <crazy_penguin> chipher: modify the sources.list
[10:02] <DBO> !tell chripher about upgrade
[10:02] <crazy_penguin> were it says breezy write dapper
[10:02] <scheuri> chripher: I recommend to wait another month, dapper is still beta but will be released in June
[10:02] <scarn> u can update over the net aswell
[10:03] <scarn> but i would wait for the release
[10:03] <scheuri> chripher: firefox 1.0.8 and <IP_ADDRESS> are both secure on their leve, 1.0.8 just has some features less...
[10:04] <sanych_laptop> Guys, where I can find a list of services which are launched on startup?
[10:04] <sanych_laptop> and how can I edit that list?
[10:04] <DBO> sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[10:04] <chripher> DBO: High tech can someone just give me the commands one by one
[10:04] <DBO> sudo sysv-rc-conf
[10:05] <sanych_laptop> DBO, thanks!
[10:05] <chripher> that page says it is not recomanded to do that and even then they post a 2 page how to
[10:06] <DBO> chripher, "cd && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' > sources.list"
[10:06] <DBO> chripher, then "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak && sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:07] <deep_> Hey there. :)
[10:07] <DBO> chripher, then "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and make sure there is text in there
[10:07] <DBO> hi deep_
[10:09] <chripher> DBO:  thanks done all now but what text line ?
[10:09] <deep_> I need some help about Quake 3. I need the version >1.16, which dousent exist anymore. And when i try to emulate, it sais something about OpenGL.. something.
[10:09] <DBO> chripher, when you do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" does any text get printed to your terminal?
[10:09] <deep_> ( i have the 1.16 in windows )
[10:09] <DBO> (probably a bit long file)_
[10:10] <DBO> deep_, quake3 has a native installer I believe
[10:10] <chripher> !pastebin
[10:10] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:10] <deep_> Yeah, version 1.32.
[10:10] <deep_> Not what im looking for. : /
[10:12] <DBO> deep_, well then I guess you need to be a little more specific =)  my crystal ball is quite broke
[10:12] <chripher> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13825
[10:12] <DBO> chripher, now just do a "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:13] <deep_> DBO: Okay. Ill  Wine-install the quake i have, and then when i start it will give me an errormessage, ill send that. ^^
[10:13] <chripher> DBO:  is that all ? and what about the old and duplicates ?
[10:13] <cion> hey all
[10:14] <cion> I need to reap a website into my hard disk
[10:14] <raf> could someone help me on my soudcard?
[10:14] <cion> anyone can help me to do that?
[10:14] <philosophus> cion, try wget
[10:14] <DBO> chripher, apt takes care of all that for you, but be warned, a dist upgrade takes a looooong time
[10:14] <cion> philosophus it's a command u talking bout? (sorry im kinda noob)
[10:14] <chripher> I got time I got no jobb at the moment hehe
[10:15] <scheuri> chripher: If you really want to upgrade to dapper I recommend you to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[10:15] <philosophus> cion, yes. Do you know how to use the command line?
[10:15] <DBO> scheuri, why?  aptitude is just a frontend for apt-get
[10:15] <DBO> which is just a frontend in turn for dpkg...
[10:15] <scheuri> DBO: yes, sort of...but it takes care of dependencies better
[10:15] <cion> terminal I lnow, what are the commands to reap an entire website O___O
[10:16] <chip42> scheuri: oh really :p
[10:16] <philosophus> cion, look at man wget. It should have something in there about link following.
[10:16] <shadukan> every package manager in ubuntu is a frontend for the apt-get interface
[10:16] <bigfoot1> how do i paste text inside pico?
[10:16] <raf> I have an intel i810 chipset, but I can't configure its sound card
[10:16] <chripher> scheuri: why did not say that before now it is allready runing like heller
[10:16] <raf> what can I do?
[10:16] <DBO> scheuri, I am fairly certain they all manage dependancies in the same manner, and the it handles dependancies better is just a crazy rumor started by my wife
[10:16] <shadukan> ...raf
[10:16] <cion> philosophus ok I'll check that, thx ;) c'ya
[10:16] <philosophus> scheuri, does aptitude do something differently with dependencies?
[10:16] <scheuri> chripher: no worries...apt-get is fine,...:)
[10:16] <shadukan>  i have the same and runs out of the box
[10:17] <raf> I've installed modprobe snd_intel8x0, nothing happened
[10:17] <scheuri> DBO...your wife? ah well...too bad I never met her then...;)
[10:17] <shadukan> u must use the oss module or the alsa module to enable sound in i810 mobo soundcards
[10:17] <DBO> scheuri, that makes two of us
[10:17] <philosophus> cion, take a look at the Advanced Usage toward the end.
[10:17] <scheuri> DBO: LOL...;)
[10:18] <chripher> scheuri: hope so It look like I am geting hacked by aliens the text just run and run and run forest
[10:18] <DBO> chripher, just let apt-get go, it will be fine, if you have errors (like sometimes it will timeout from the server) just restart the dist-upgrade
[10:18] <shadukan> in my lappy i installed ubuntu and most of the hardware(not the modem) was configured out of the box
[10:18] <shadukan> i did some tweaking and the modem also worked fine
[10:18] <chripher> DBO: ah
[10:18] <LordFalcon> !upgrade
[10:18] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:18] <crazy_penguin> DBO: please could you repeat the command used for configuring the running services. than you
[10:18] <chripher> it goes in around 3000KB/s
[10:19] <raf> oss module is still installed, but I can't hear anything
[10:19] <DBO> crazy_penguin, "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[10:19] <deep_> "FW_StartOpenGL() - Could not load OpenGL subsystem", quake 3 sais.
[10:19] <deep_> : (
[10:19] <chripher> nice speed on does servers
[10:19] <crazy_penguin> DBO: thx
[10:19] <philosophus> chripher, really?
[10:19] <shadukan> raf type in a console alsaconf and see there what does it says...
[10:19] <DBO> crazy_penguin, your welcome (thanks for being so nice =)
[10:19] <raf> shadukan: command not found
[10:19] <philosophus> chripher, what servers are you using? I only got 1000 MB/s using a mirror on my campus.
[10:20] <chripher> philosophus: yeah my line is 100/10 (In/out)
[10:20] <chripher> but 1000MB/s is more than 3000KB/s
[10:20] <philosophus> chripher, oops, I'm tired.
[10:21] <chripher> philosophus: no problemas
[10:21] <philosophus> chripher, 1000MB/s would be rather impressive for the hard drives in the servers.
[10:21] <chripher> philosophus: private line not campus
[10:21] <shadukan> just tested the sudo update-manager -d and works fine!
[10:22] <raf> shadukan: bash: alsaconf: command not found
[10:22] <aftertaf> raf, type dpkg -l | grep alsa and pastebin what you see.
[10:22] <chripher> philosophus: yeah but there are a isp here in sweden that givs you a line of 1gbps
[10:22] <raf> ok
[10:22] <chripher> philosophus: for private home's
[10:22] <Auckland_Pig> 1 gbps????????
[10:23] <raf> shadukan: http://raf.pastebin.com/713119
[10:23] <chripher> yeap you heard me 1 giga bit per second in download
[10:23] <philosophus> chripher, impressive. The US is really behind in that area.
[10:23] <chripher> philosophus: yeah us is to big
[10:25] <chripher> They did a massice fiber upgrade two month ago all over sweden and the all the birds ate the fiber
[10:25] <chripher> so they hade to use another type of fiber and do al over again
[10:25] <shadukan> raf i saw it
[10:25] <williswatson> quit
[10:26] <shadukan> try
[10:26] <shadukan> lsmod | grep i810
[10:26] <chripher> but now greenpeace is angry because the new isolation is maybe dangrous for birds
[10:26] <shadukan> i have to ask something when u say u dont hear anything when u log into gnome do u hear login sound
[10:26] <shadukan> or u cannont hear for example mp3 files?
[10:27] <deep_> Hey. I need to enable Direct Rendering, howto? "glxinfo | grep render" sais "direct rendering: No"
[10:27] <Kismet> DBO, no running X.org 7 on dapper
[10:27] <HIGH-FREQ> Deep7: enalbe dri in your xorg.conf  if your vid cards permits it
[10:27] <raf> lsmod | grep i810 returns nothing
[10:27] <HIGH-FREQ> errr deep_
[10:27] <chripher> does anyone know how to play mp3 trough windows shares without downloading them to local computer
[10:28] <raf> I have VLC, it plays mp3
[10:28] <DBO> Kismet, what is your problem now, I forgot already
[10:28] <deep_> HIGH-FREQ: Will check that, thx. :)
[10:28] <HIGH-FREQ> chripher: thru a samba network or other nfs
[10:28] <raf> I can't hear nither mp3 nor cd's
[10:28] <chripher> HIGH-FREQ: Samba i guess
[10:29] <seraphim> chripher: you can use smbfs to mount the windows-share on your linux-box
[10:29] <HIGH-FREQ> chripher: yes...samba or nfs......samba seems to be the easiest i think
[10:29] <raf> lsmod | grep intel returns the modules I loaded some minutes ago, the snd_intel8x0
[10:29] <Kismet> DBO, sorry... the problem is that: When i enable DRI + FGLRX or DRI + RADEON I get the machine hung up
[10:29] <chripher> Yes done that but I can not paly mp3 have to copy emm to local disk to hear any sound
[10:29] <DBO> Kismet, what video card?
[10:30] <deep_> HIGH-FREQ: Okay, i see that DRI is commented out. But i also have XGL/Compiz installed. XGL want it to be commented out. Does XGL work with it loaded?
[10:30] <seraphim> /ip/share  /place/to/mount  smbfs  uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000,username=smbuser,password=smbpass 0 0
[10:30] <HIGH-FREQ> xgl should work wihth dri by defualt...i believe
[10:30] <seraphim> chripher
[10:30] <seraphim> that's the line for your /etc/fstab
[10:31] <raf> shadukan: lsmod | grep intel returns the modules I loaded some minutes ago, the snd_intel8x0
[10:31] <deep_> HIGH-FREQ: Okay. Thanx for your support ^^
[10:31] <seraphim> oh. "//ip/share"#
[10:31] <deep_> :D
[10:31] <shadukan> give me a sec raf
[10:31] <HIGH-FREQ> deep_: hopefully that helped ...somewhat ;0
[10:31] <raf> shadukan: lsmod | grep i810 returns nothing