[00:37] <MobileTurkey> ping pong
[00:37] <MobileTurkey> it's 8:30 and i finally put pants on.
[00:39] <rmg51> I took mine off :-D
[00:41] <teddy-dbear> I never wear them
[00:43] <MobileTurkey> what are pants?
[00:45] <teddy-dbear> look down
[00:45] <teddy-dbear> it's what your wearing silly
[00:53] <MobileTurkey> every time I start hanging out with a group I agree with i get more polarized...
[02:28] <MobileTurkey> I watched the temperature of the CPU drop like Rush Limbaugh's advertisers. LOL
[02:50] <MobileTurkey> http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/410262/march-08-2012/exclusive---don-fleming--elvis-costello---emmylou-harris----goodnight--irene-
[02:50] <MobileTurkey> great clip
[02:52] <MobileTurkey> http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/410257/march-08-2012/don-fleming--elvis-costello---emmylou-harris----good-old-mountain-dew-
[02:52] <MobileTurkey> also
[03:25] <cythes> pleia2: Mind a PM?
[03:28] <pleia2> cythes: go for it
[03:28] <pleia2> (and do I know you? :))
[03:54] <cythes> I am sure you do ;)
[03:57] <Sadin> god i love NodeJS
[04:54] <InHisName> Good morning
[05:00] <Sadin> morning InHisName
[05:00] <Sadin> now night everyone PSSA's tomorrow i swear no child left behind is hindering my school so much....
[05:02] <InHisName> Have a fun time with your PSSAs
[05:33] <InHisName> My compiz has swelled from 42MB usage to 735MB.   I can reboot to reset it, but is there a lesser way to do the same thing ?
[05:55] <cythes> Anyone here know how to get irssi to connect to two networks at once?
[05:55] <cythes> I could not figure it out before and I figured there is no shame in asking.
[06:04] <cythes__> hmm
[06:06] <pleia2> cythes: just /connect irc.othernet.org
[06:06] <cythes> Now for automation.
[06:23] <cythes> Be back in a few
[06:29] <cythes> pleia2: I proud of myself...
[06:30] <cythes> I got it figured out with auto channeling.
[06:30] <pleia2> :D
[06:30] <cythes> Now if I could just change the key bindings in i3 lol
[06:36] <cythes> Fixed!
[06:36] <cythes> brb again
[06:38] <cythes> Well that was easy... not to reconfigure urxvt... Q.Q
[06:42] <cythes> Well again brb I'ma try something...
[06:44] <cythes> And now it is totally fixed!
[06:44] <cythes> <3 this now!!
[09:56] <rmg51> Morning
[15:04] <MobileTurkey> waltman: do you have an extra mouse pad?
[15:10] <waltman> no
[15:16] <ChinnoDog> Seems like there should be a punch line
[15:16] <MutantTurkey> TWIST IT, SHAKE IT SHAKE IT SHAKE IT BABY.
[15:17] <adom> people still use mousepads?
[15:17] <adom> i hate those things
[15:17] <JonathanD> I do.
[15:17] <JonathanD> Glass desk.
[15:17] <adom> got a storage closest with a 3ft high stack of them in there
[15:17] <adom> ahh
[15:17] <adom> fair enough
[15:17] <adom> but otherwise
[15:17] <adom> meh
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> I need one as well.
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> loud annoying mouse
[15:18] <adom> I do have a nice Deftones mousepad i got a long time ago, but i use that at home on the dresser for my keys and wallet when i get home.
[15:18] <aurigus> i do but it is kind of stank
[15:18] <aurigus> serious ubuntu question
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> serious questions?
[15:18]  * EvilResistance gives MutantTurkey a "Republican National Committee" mouse pad.
[15:18] <adom> srs bzns
[15:18] <EvilResistance> that's all i got :/
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> i'll take it.
[15:19] <MutantTurkey> sold to the man in the burger suit.
[15:19] <aurigus> never mind answered my own question
[15:20] <aurigus> nevermind, i'm an idiot
[15:20] <aurigus> so my office uses Kerio for our mail server.
[15:20] <aurigus> I can use pop/smtp or whatever, but i would rather use the exchangish features.
[15:20] <MutantTurkey> yes?
[15:21] <aurigus> they have a client but only for Windows and Mac
[15:21] <aurigus> am I SOL?
[15:21] <EvilResistance> aurigus, you might be...
[15:21] <EvilResistance> aurigus, yo ucould try in Wine or Mono, but you might not get good results
[15:22] <adom> search for open-source linux clones/alternatives to the client software online?
[15:23] <adom> sourceforge, etc
[15:23] <MutantTurkey> exchangish features?
[15:23] <MutantTurkey> doesn't kmail support that sort of thing....?
[15:24] <aurigus> yeah like if i want to use calendars/shared calendars
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> yeah I can do that with trinity's kmail i'm pretty sure
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> like sync to my google mail
[15:24] <MutantTurkey> of course I don't need it, hell I don't even use a email client othe than mutt
[15:25] <aurigus> hmm, that sounds like a lot of work
[15:25] <MutantTurkey> i dunno
[15:25] <MutantTurkey> i'ma try it out
[15:26] <MutantTurkey> apparently it's easy
[15:26] <MutantTurkey> I just don't have a calender to test it with
[15:26] <aurigus> sync to gmail
[15:26] <MutantTurkey> gmail or google calander?
[15:27] <EvilResistance> either hor
[15:27] <EvilResistance> or*
[15:27] <EvilResistance> they're the same
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> trying it out
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> i have gmail syncing
[15:27] <aurigus> Is Kmail any good. Honestly I havent found a client that is as good as Outlook for *real* office productivity
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> kmail2 sucks as far as I am concerned
[15:27] <EvilResistance> Thunderbird, or Evolution
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> they're at what? kde4.8 and it still crashes all over the place
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> thunderbird++
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> the original kontact/kmail
[15:27] <MutantTurkey> it's so well integrated
[15:28] <aurigus> i use thunderbird at home for archival purposes
[15:28] <MutantTurkey> calander, feeds, todo,  contacts, journal, notes.
[15:29] <aurigus> I like how when you look at sharing a calendar via thunderbird, it says to install mod_dav on your own apache server.
[15:29] <aurigus> Great for geeks, not so great for Joe/Jane office user who just wants to share a calendar
[15:29] <aurigus> :)
[15:30] <MutantTurkey> yeah :/
[15:35] <aurigus> i think there is a huge opening for a consumer software company selling software like that
[15:35] <aurigus> the problem is that you have to make it open source because of licensing
[15:37] <JonathanD> You're selling the service (now you don't need mod_dav on your own apache server) and not the software.
[15:38] <JonathanD> The software can be what it is.
[15:43] <adom> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/bacon_love
[15:46] <MutantTurkey> everyone on reddit.
[16:21] <MutantTurkey> http://lyrics.wikia.com/The_Blues_Brothers:Soul_Finger
[16:21] <MutantTurkey> who comes up with those great speeches
[17:28] <waltman> MutantTurkey: A man. With a lot of soul. A "soul man", one might say.
[17:28] <MutantTurkey> so deep
[17:28] <MutantTurkey> :p
[17:45] <cythes> Hello UBUNTU!
[17:45] <MutantTurkey> hello...
[17:45] <MutantTurkey> whut
[17:47] <cythes> Alright, much better. Irssi configed!... I'll work on themeing and cool things later... Then again I might just Hijack pleia2's r2d2 theme lol
[17:47] <MutantTurkey> r2d2++
[17:49] <cythes> haha
[17:52] <cythes> MutantTurkey: Other then figuring out how to get my wallpaper to load up automatically LOl I think that is an xinit issue more then anything. the file is there just not running on start up.
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> what program are you using?
[17:53] <cythes> feh
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> lol
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> okay
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> pastebin your xinit
[17:53] <pleia2> cythes you are alexanderazimov?
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> pleia2: yes
[17:53] <cythes> pleia2: Yes
[17:53] <pleia2> k :)
[17:54] <cythes> I have since adventured out into the nets in search of knowlege traveled through a few stargates and have since come back with more then I knew before!
[17:54] <pleia2> hehe
[17:54] <jedijf> at least someone has
[17:54] <cythes> Alright let me get that for you MutantTurkey
[17:54] <MutantTurkey> okay
[17:54] <MutantTurkey> test the command at the prompt
[17:54] <MutantTurkey> before sticking it in your xinitrc
[17:55] <cythes> I did
[17:55] <cythes> it works just fine.
[17:55] <MutantTurkey> okay paste it
[17:55] <cythes> just a second lol
[17:56] <cythes> Uh... how do I paste in irssi?
[17:57] <cythes> xD
[17:57] <pleia2> centerclick
[17:57] <jedijf> go back to your travels
[17:57] <MutantTurkey> don't paste it here.
[17:57] <cythes> I dont have one.... laptop.
[17:57] <MutantTurkey> stop
[17:57] <MutantTurkey> paste into a pastebin...
[17:57] <MutantTurkey> then copy the link
[17:57] <MutantTurkey> yeesh
[17:57] <cythes> Yeah I am trying to get you the link lol
[17:57] <cythes> [#ubuntu-us-pa]
[17:57] <MutantTurkey> middle click..
[17:57] <cythes> K...
[17:57] <jedijf> right click paste
[17:58] <cythes> http://pastebin.com/pv9tVizV
[17:58] <jedijf> he haz no middle
[17:58] <cythes> Oh... well apparently if I press both mouse keys down it does the same thing lol
[17:58] <jedijf> yes, that too
[18:00] <MutantTurkey> thats the problem.
[18:00] <cythes> what?
[18:00] <MutantTurkey> sh ~./fehbg
[18:01] <MutantTurkey> what....?
[18:01] <MutantTurkey> is fehbg a script or what?
[18:01] <MutantTurkey> where is it?
[18:01] <MutantTurkey> not ~/.fehbg?
[18:01] <cythes> It is in my home folder... and it is as it is..
[18:01] <cythes> Dude you said RTFM I did lol
[18:01] <MutantTurkey> is it executable (chmod +x?) and it will wait for dmenu....
[18:01] <MutantTurkey> ~/.fehbg and ~./fehbg are different
[18:02] <cythes> oh.... O.o brb!!
[18:02] <MutantTurkey> duh
[18:02] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[18:02]  * cythes TO THE LAB!!
[18:03] <cythes> well brb then lol
[18:07] <MutantTurkey> waltman: she caught the katy... wow awesome song.
[18:12] <cythes> Well it did not work.... Q.Q oh well I dont really mind not haveing a BG xD
[18:13] <cythes> Not that I am giving up, I'm just going to take a break from it.
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> whatt
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> lol
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> it shouldnt be so hard :/
[18:15] <cythes> Dude, nothing should be as hard as it is lol
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> right on
[18:18] <cythes> I'm going to try one more thing..
[18:18] <cythes> Like loading up the actuall command in xinit.
[18:18] <MutantTurkey> ....
[18:18] <MutantTurkey> yeah
[18:18] <MutantTurkey> why aren't you?
[18:19] <cythes> I was using a shortened version of the command.
[18:19] <cythes> Maybe the full version will be just as well off.
[18:19] <cythes> brb
[18:22] <cythes> No dice lol
[18:28] <MutantTurkey> lol
[18:28] <MutantTurkey> using full paths?
[18:29] <MutantTurkey> that dmenu_run won't let it load until dmenu run has executed.
[18:39] <cythes> Fixed!
[18:39] <cythes> Now to do some themeing in IRSSI then I am all good!
[18:40] <MutantTurkey> good work
[18:42] <cythes> Oh yeah thanks man! I have a really cool image of the Major from Ghost in the shell in the BG.
[18:43] <cythes> Actually its the same one in my only i3 screenshot in G+ lol
[18:43] <cythes> Now to learn vim
[18:43] <MutantTurkey> very good
[18:43] <MutantTurkey> use the vim tutorial.
[18:43] <MutantTurkey> it's really great.
[18:44] <MutantTurkey> are you a touch typer? and a "proper" typer?
[18:44] <cythes> I need to look down every so often but I can get things done quick enough.
[18:44] <MutantTurkey> it really helps to have that down as well. I didn't have that down perfectly, and so I didnt _get_ the shortcuts, they were generally counterintutitve to me at that point
[18:44] <MutantTurkey> now I love them
[18:44] <MutantTurkey> also you can custom bind stuff
[18:44] <MutantTurkey> so look around at vim extensions and cool vimrc's
[18:45] <cythes> Question I know you showed me your bad-ass vim set up when I was in here last time...  xD Yeah I was going to say lol anything for auto completion/
[18:45] <MutantTurkey> ctags?
[18:45] <MutantTurkey> yes.
[18:45] <cythes> I mean if I wanted to learn python or even bash.
[18:46] <cythes> Speaking of I need to go wait for the SS dept to call me.
[18:47] <cythes> be back in a few.
[18:47] <MutantTurkey> okay
[18:47] <adom> quick question: whats /dev/sr0
[18:48] <adom> cdrom?
[18:49] <ChinnoDog> yes
[18:49] <MutantTurkey> aye
[18:49] <ChinnoDog> /dev/cdrom is linked to it
[18:49] <adom> thought so thx
[18:49] <adom> ya
[18:49] <adom> coworker narrowed a problem there and i wanted to double check it was the cdrom
[18:51] <MutantTurkey> what sort of co workers are these
[18:51] <MutantTurkey> I miss having coworkers
[18:58] <MutantTurkey> working alone is lonely
[19:04] <adom> GAs Graduate Assistants. they work on thesis work and projects while helping around here via a desk in one of the classrooms.
[19:04] <adom> this one GA happens to be a bit proficient with computers so we give him some bitch work like reseating RAM, etc
[19:04]  * pleia2 passes the swear jar to adom
[19:05] <adom> in their normal hours they help students reset passwords, print documents, print big i2 chart posters on our plotter (DesignJet).
[19:05]  * adom takes out a quarter.
[19:05] <adom> *kerplunk*
[19:05]  * adom puts in a dollar for later. ;)
[19:07] <MutantTurkey> my jar is full
[19:07] <adom> TACO TUESDAY THEN!
[19:07] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: I've been musing on DCC and video chat over IRC
[19:09] <cythes> MutantTurkey: I can try to work with you lol
[19:09] <MutantTurkey> yeah It'd be cool
[19:09] <MutantTurkey> I need to learn about DCC a bit more
[19:09] <Sadin> MutantTurkey found a nice little module for node im going to try out on my app check it https://github.com/learnboost/cluster
[19:10] <adom> video over IRC? that's rediculous.
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> adom: why?
[19:10] <ChinnoDog> DCC is a direct connection. You can send anything over it
[19:10] <adom> 90% of people on IRC are sitting at home in their underpants. no one needs to see that.
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> not any more ridiculous than video over a proprietary format...
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> 100% of people on IRC are sitting home in their underpants
[19:10] <ChinnoDog> The problem with video chat over IRC is creating a standard that other people will follow an dimplement
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> or at work in their underpants.
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: implement it in one
[19:10] <cythes> MutantTurkey: I am not.
[19:11] <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: but, I would have to stop using irssi
[19:11] <adom> ill implement something in your underpants...
[19:11] <ChinnoDog> lol
[19:11] <cythes> I am actually wearing my "Work" gear. xD aka = dress pants / shirt.
[19:11] <MutantTurkey> hehe
[19:11]  * cythes is the 1%
[19:11] <cythes> xD
[19:11] <ChinnoDog> IRC video extension. If you make it, they will come.
[19:12] <ChinnoDog> But only if you make it easy. Programmers are lazy.
[19:12] <cythes> Its been done on every other chat out there... I'm sure it can be done here. Question is how?
[19:12] <JonathanD> Simple.
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> how?
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> just pick a video stream
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> and send the data
[19:13] <cythes> BY chat I mean AIM / MSN ETC
[19:13] <JonathanD> pretty much that.
[19:13] <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: I imagine you would create a new DCC command that would patch through the video stream
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> yes
[19:13] <JonathanD> You could have paid and free video host services for it.
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> that would be it
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> it would have a endless stream
[19:13] <JonathanD> You would send the link, probably via CTCP
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: but it's peer to peer
[19:13] <JonathanD> and the client would connect to it.
[19:13] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: peer to peer is a lot harder.
[19:13] <ChinnoDog>  /dcc videochat
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> no need for intermediate
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> thats DDC right?
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> or DCC
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> direct client to client...?
[19:14] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: DCC doesn't work for most clients anymore.
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> then the peer would receive the video stream and pipe it over to a display program
[19:14] <JonathanD> it requires pre-defined, opened, forwarded ports.
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: what!
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> it works for me?
[19:14] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: it's very rare for it to work.
[19:14] <ChinnoDog> DCC anything requires ports
[19:14] <JonathanD> yup.
[19:15] <JonathanD> so most clients won't be able to support it via DCC, which is why I suggest an intermediary.
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> intermediary will hold it back from adoption.
[19:15] <JonathanD> Rather, multiple intermediaries, and CTCP to point to the correct one.
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> i am set on dcc.
[19:15] <ChinnoDog> Yea. if you created a G+ hangout extension people would resist because it wasn't open enough
[19:15] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: the whole "not working" thing will hold back dcc adoption.
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: I don't understand why it doesn't work?
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> it works for me :[
[19:15] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: because open ports.
[19:16] <cythes> I am curius now... O.o
[19:16] <MutantTurkey> my ports are open!
[19:16] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: good for you.
[19:16] <cythes> That is what she said O.o?
[19:16] <JonathanD> You'll  be the one person who can use it.
[19:16] <JonathanD> :P
[19:16] <MutantTurkey> :p
[19:16] <JonathanD> Guys I found our intermediary, it'll be MutantTurkey
[19:16] <JonathanD> he'll handle all the connections.
[19:16] <MutantTurkey> :p
[19:16] <cythes> Turk's got enough on his plate lol
[19:16] <MutantTurkey> dcc is so much more appealing
[19:17] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: so all your ports are open?
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> no
[19:17] <adom> in your underpants
[19:17] <cythes> adom: LOLZ
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> my port is definitely closed off...
[19:17] <adom> is that bot still in here?
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> adom: get out of here
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> :p
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> !next
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> @next
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> next?
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> no.
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> it's not
[19:17]  * JonathanD does a portscan on MutantTurkey
[19:17] <adom> :(
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: please send results...
[19:17] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: for reals?
[19:17] <JonathanD> k
[19:18] <cythes> xD
[19:18] <MutantTurkey> just wondering
[19:18] <adom> MutantTurkey has alias/mask. how'd you get ip?
[19:18] <MutantTurkey> I don't have an alias
[19:18] <adom> i cant see ip
[19:18] <cythes> I know 80 22 21 6667 6697 and a few others are still open on mine.
[19:19] <adom> nvm i got it
[19:19] <adom> i can paste results here
[19:19] <adom> if u wants
[19:19] <cythes> http , ssh , irc
[19:19] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: http://www.ircpolitics.org/tech/linksys-dcc.html btw.
[19:19] <MutantTurkey> thanks
[19:19] <JonathanD> This is an idea of what most people would have to go through, and why it wouldn't work.
[19:20] <adom> mutantturkey: 53, 111, 135, 139, 445, 593, 1025, 1080, 1433, 1434, 3128 open
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> huh
[19:20] <JonathanD> adom: those are filtered, not open.
[19:20] <adom> ya sorry
[19:20] <adom> that
[19:20] <adom> headin out to second job later all
[19:20] <JonathanD> Of course, there is no "DCC Port" to check for.
[19:20] <Joe_CoT> I expected this comment when I opened this thread, reddit did not disappoint http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/quqnr/bestfind_at_walmartever/c40mf1l
[19:21] <aurigus> yes portscan me too!
[19:21] <JonathanD> portscan everyone!
[19:21] <aurigus> TCP SYN?
[19:21] <aurigus> UDP?
[19:22] <Joe_CoT> bah, wrong channel :-/
[19:22] <JonathanD> aurigus: you has a cloak, though.
[19:22] <jedijf> cythes: move ssh to another port
[19:22] <Joe_CoT> pay no attention to the man behind the curtian
[19:22]  * cythes will pass on the port scan.
[19:22] <cythes> jedijf: How?
[19:22] <JonathanD> cythes: crowbar.
[19:22] <jedijf> cythes there already hammering 22
[19:22] <aurigus> most of my servers will ban you after you scan a couple of ports anyway
[19:23] <JonathanD> cythes: make sure you spackle over the old port, though.
[19:23] <JonathanD> aurigus: should I try anyway, then ;)
[19:23] <jedijf> go to sshd config change port and root login to no restart ssh
[19:23] <aurigus> also turn off root and password based login
[19:23] <jedijf> port to diferent #
[19:24] <cythes> So instead of saying 22 when I do it just connect from another number?
[19:24] <aurigus> use -p 8022 or whatever
[19:24] <jedijf> cythes: ssh cyth@xyz -p 2222
[19:24] <cythes> Alright.
[19:24] <JonathanD> it helps a tiny bit.
[19:24] <aurigus> jedijf: how did you guess my super secret management port
[19:25] <jedijf> JonathanD: it helps an infinite amount; you'd be surprised
[19:25] <jedijf> aurigus: haha yep
[19:25] <jedijf> 222 2222 1337
[19:26] <aurigus> yeah automated scans all check 22
[19:26] <aurigus> nah 2222 is default directadmin port
[19:26] <cythes> Hmm
[19:26] <aurigus> not ssh
[19:26] <jedijf> even though /everyone/ knows that 1337 should be nc backdoor only
[19:26] <aurigus> wasnt that the backorifice port?
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> waltman: do you know gaylord?
[19:26] <waltman> Yes.
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> he's either a professor or the sysadmin
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> what is his job?
[19:26] <waltman> the latter
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> his room number?
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> 1337
[19:26] <MutantTurkey> :p
[19:27] <MutantTurkey> heh
[19:27] <waltman> I know where his office is, but I don't know the number.
[19:27] <waltman> https://www.cs.drexel.edu/users/csstaff
[19:27] <MutantTurkey> furniture mover.
[19:27] <MutantTurkey> lol
[19:29] <cythes> Yeah i dont even have ssh on here yet lol
[19:30] <aurigus> no ssh!!
[19:32] <aurigus> whats the deb package for nfs?
[19:33] <aurigus> found it: apt-get install nfs-common
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> i hate debian and ubuntu package names
[19:33] <JonathanD> so anyway MutantTurkey
[19:33] <jedijf> apt-file ftw
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> so counter intuitive
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> pacman ftw.
[19:33] <JonathanD> intermediary is superior to DCC
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> end of discussion
[19:33] <aurigus> y not apt-get search
[19:33] <aurigus> grrr
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: is that viable though?
[19:33] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: absolutely.
[19:33] <MutantTurkey> hmmm okay
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> but no one would pay for it.
[19:34] <JonathanD> They don't have to.
[19:34] <JonathanD> Build a protocol for it.
[19:34] <JonathanD> dead-simple.
[19:34] <JonathanD> and let others deploy it.
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> ah
[19:34] <JonathanD> it becomes like... etherpad.
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> good idea
[19:34] <jedijf> aurigus: apt-file will tell you package app is in
[19:34] <JonathanD> anyone can run one.
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> i love etherpad :-)
[19:34] <jedijf> very helpful
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> pacman does everything for you....
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> versus the apt-hell system
[19:34] <aurigus> gotta use that i guess
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> btw
[19:34] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: some people might opt to charge for "high bandwidth" ones or such.
[19:34] <aurigus> im used to yum
[19:34] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: or apply ads before the stream starts.
[19:34] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: right then you could downsample quality and stuff
[19:35] <MutantTurkey> based on that
[19:35] <JonathanD> But you can choose which one you connect to, so it doesn't matter.
[19:35] <MutantTurkey> or apply ads during the stream.
[19:35] <JonathanD> and you would pass something like an etherpad link via ctcp
[19:35] <MutantTurkey> right
[19:35] <MutantTurkey> I got it
[19:36] <JonathanD> anyway.
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> thats on my ideas list
[19:36] <JonathanD> If you build it, they may or may not come.
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> they will come
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: so then a server could aggregate the video streams, for multi person chat
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> just return one larger video stream...
[19:37] <JonathanD> I suppose it could
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> for example it would also return the video of you in the bottom right hand corner
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> everything else would be a plain video stream, so you could pipe it into like mplayer or vlc
[19:40] <cythes> MutantTurkey: what do you use for music again? I know we use the same thing lol
[19:41] <MutantTurkey> mocp
[19:41] <MutantTurkey> ...
[19:45] <Sadin> YEAH ordering this today XD http://shop.github.com/products/octocat-hoodie
[19:47] <MutantTurkey> oh jelly
[19:50] <cythes> so linux gaming is about to get better... Since it seems Nvida Might be crapping out an open source driver here soon.
[19:50] <MutantTurkey> it's already crapped out many crappy drives
[19:50] <JonathanD> people have to actually port the games though, too.
[19:50] <MutantTurkey> yeah...
[19:50] <MutantTurkey> I don't see why they don't though, once you have mac support...
[19:51] <cythes> Yeah but now it is part of the linux foundation which means this just got real.
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> isn't mac all openGL as well?
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> cythes: doesn't mean crap
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> that is just a token
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> i'll wait till they have good support.
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> and open drivers.
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> to delcare them "linux heros"
[19:51] <JonathanD> and games to play on them ;)
[19:52] <cythes> I really want to see Medal of Honor spearhead ported over... its 10 years old now xD but I still play it sing my friends dad runs a gaming clan for it.
[19:52] <aurigus> starting to think gaming on linux is a lost cause
[19:52] <cythes> Well really what is linux built for?
[19:52] <aurigus> servers!
[19:53] <cythes> There is a reason gaming on it is a hard core pain in the ass.
[19:54] <aurigus> im mining bitcoins on a linux server, that was a pain to set up but is really stable
[19:54] <aurigus> that summarizes my entire linux experience
[19:54] <cythes> The way I see it Linux is built for servers / programmers / hackers. Mac is for business and graphics / video editing. And windows well...It good for waiting to see how long you can last till you get a virus. (Actually its great for gaming..)
[19:54] <cythes> Bitcoins?
[19:56] <MutantTurkey> windows is great for business and many other things
[19:56] <MutantTurkey> hence why people are using...
[19:56] <JonathanD> Windows is (relatively) easy to manage for businesses.
[19:56] <MutantTurkey> and people are familiar with it
[19:57] <MutantTurkey> plus it as great application support
[19:57] <JonathanD> Linux can be better there in lots of ways, but I think... yeah, the familiarity, the applications availability, wins it for many.
[19:57] <JonathanD> (for windows, I mean)
[19:57] <cythes> Yeah but no one will ever get into something new with out steping out of their comfort zones lol
[19:57] <JonathanD> businesses don't like to step out of their comfort zones.
[19:57] <JonathanD> What we have, works, and we'll keep using it while it does.
[19:58] <cythes> Then again, I like most linux distros with gnome or something since it simply has everything catagorized for you...
[19:58] <cythes> JonathanD: Break it lol
[19:58] <cythes> With a sledge hammer.
[19:58] <MutantTurkey> but why would the step out?
[19:58] <JonathanD> cythes: the "we" there was the hypothetical business.
[19:58] <cythes> Then install arch on a toaster and prove how much better it is.
[19:58] <JonathanD> not me :p
[19:58] <MutantTurkey> it's so much easier to use windows...
[19:59] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: I think for a business large enough to replace a lot of the scripting and deployment functionality, linux could win out.
[19:59] <MutantTurkey> though I am thinking I would like to run a startup company in philly to support Linux for small scale businesses
[19:59] <JonathanD> And also for one small enough not to need it in the first place.
[19:59] <JonathanD> group policy is hard to replicate.
[19:59] <MutantTurkey> is that idea viable? also do they already exist?
[20:00] <JonathanD> probably. But do it anyway.
[20:01] <jedijf> google linuxforce
[20:01] <JonathanD> oh yes, linuxforce
[20:01] <JonathanD> forgot about them.
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> look at their website...
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> http://linuxforce.net/
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> so
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> don't trust them...
[20:01] <jedijf> or bucky fuller
[20:01] <cythes> MutantTurkey: a year and a half ago I was happy using ubuntu. I like it it all worked out of the box, Then the switch to unity. I did not realise "Wait its linux I can just tinker with it." No I went else where. Long story short I got tired of it being easy. I wanted to learn not be spoon feed... so I switched to arch at your request and my other friends. I love arch it keeps me on my toes :) This is not to bash ubuntu, ubuntu is still my first pick for no
[20:02] <MutantTurkey> "Tuesday,   13   March   201" they have a javascript date applet...
[20:02] <MutantTurkey> lol
[20:03] <cythes> Just it was time for fight club to move out of the basement lol.
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: I think it's a good idea
[20:03] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: you should do it in norristown, though.
[20:03] <JonathanD> or conshohocken.
[20:03]  * JonathanD nods
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> do you think people would go for it? I have a guy who's interested to back me financially.
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> why there?
[20:03] <cythes> MutantTurkey: Now there is an idea I would like to get on
[20:03] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: obviously so I could work with you, and have a short commute.
[20:03] <JonathanD> :P
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> right on :p
[20:03] <jedijf> for accuracy sake, ubuntu is what you make it, alternate install cd and cli only install is similar to an arch install in an ubuntu way..upstart etc, but still offers all of the learning
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> ubuntu is no longer what you make it it is what they decide
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> because each release they swap out system critical components with new and untested things...
[20:04] <jedijf> reddit speak ^
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> unity was a sham to push out so early...
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> upstart? oh gosh
[20:05] <cythes> MutantTurkey: Yeah but with respect, If unity was not pushed out so early it would not be as upto date as it is now.
[20:05] <jedijf> it had to e done eventually, better sooner than later, people never accept change or progress, escept us few enlighterned
[20:05] <jedijf> except
[20:05] <jedijf> kill the r, even though phonetically i may like the sound of it there
[20:05] <cythes> Unity has come a LONG was in the last year and a half to the point I almost considered using it just to give it a shot.
[20:06] <cythes> way*
[20:06] <cythes> Wow... 1.5 year and I still fail at typing lol
[20:06] <MutantTurkey> 1.5 years to soon.
[20:06] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: I like people to roll out finished goods
[20:06] <MutantTurkey> not half baked ones
[20:06] <MutantTurkey> unity should have been provided optionally, as a beta testing
[20:07] <cythes> Turk did you know that linux was half baked when it first came out?
[20:07] <jedijf> par_baked++
[20:07] <cythes> The ONLY reason Linus kept working on it was because he killed his main partition so he was forced to finish linux.
[20:07] <MutantTurkey> did you know it wasn't backed by a rich fatcat who dumps millions of dollars into his company?
[20:08] <MutantTurkey> cythes: believe what you want.
[20:08] <cythes> Hmmm some one is getting a little defencive. xD
[20:09] <cythes> By the way those were words from the mans mouth himself at a Q&A back in 2002.
[20:09] <cythes> However I do agree about shuttleworth there MutantTurkey I dont think anyone in here really likes him.
[20:10] <MutantTurkey> lol he's the guy...
[20:12] <cythes> I was talking about Torvalds. xD Shuttleworth can blast his ass into space for all I care.   The letters are like, right next to each other.
[20:56] <lamalex> there was another younger kid
[20:56] <lamalex> whose name is jonathan? i think
[20:56] <lamalex> yah
[20:56] <lamalex> who i though you were
[20:56] <lamalex> i dont remember his nick
[20:57] <JonathanD> heh :)
[20:58] <JonathanD> rmg51: morning.
[20:58] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[20:58] <JonathanD> How goes?
[20:58] <rmg51> bit late aren't you?
[20:58] <JonathanD> You're the one who just got here.
[20:59] <rmg51> but I know what time it is ;-)
[20:59] <rmg51> it's dinner time :-D
[20:59] <JonathanD> I'm not even slightly hungry.
[21:00] <JonathanD> Had a really awesome burrito for lunch.
[21:01] <rmg51> by the time I cook something I'll be hungrey
[21:06] <ChinnoDog> all I've had is waffles and a couple hot drinks today
[21:06]  * ChinnoDog eats a horse
[21:08] <pleia2> waffles++
[21:12] <Sadin> http://sparkzdev.jit.su/ :D now to make it actually do something lol
[21:12] <Sadin> but so far i <3 node
[21:13] <Sadin> afk for drumline see you all later
[21:32] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[23:14] <JonathanD> evening critters
[23:33] <rmg51> lamalex: you must be thinking of jthan
[23:37] <jedijf> lamalex: setting up all your food for when you're back in pa?
[23:39] <jedijf> irishmanluke has been more nonexistant than jthan - looks like JonathanD's hoagie might be best bet


[00:27] <Newbie44> can some help,  Im tring to  install amd-app.sh  but keeps say 32bit system found
[00:27] <Newbie44> please download and install x86 package
[00:27] <Newbie44> I downloaded the 32bit linux package from amd, not sure why I am getting this error
[00:28] <Newbie44> anyone
[00:32] <knome> Newbie44, did you install the 64-bit xubuntu?
[00:33] <Newbie44> no i downloaded 32 bit
[00:33] <knome> right, do you have the 64-bit version of amd-app.sh?
[00:34] <Newbie44> ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386.iso    this is 32 bit  i believe and i made sure i download 32 from amd
[00:35] <knome> Newbie44, to be honest, if you aren't able to get past through simple things like this, actually being able to mine bitcoins might be a bit over your ability
[00:35] <knome> Newbie44, it's been told to you before, you are probably on the way of breaking your pc
[00:35] <Newbie44> lol
[00:36] <knome> Newbie44, or at least ending up with an unusable state, where you aren't able to recover it yourself
[00:36] <knome> Newbie44, i'm serious.
[00:37] <Newbie44> YEs sir i realize what i may do. I am here asking for help. can u maybe suggest what i try again
[00:37] <knome> Newbie44, the answer is: make sure you have the same architecture for xubuntu and the amd tool. if you did that, and it doesn't work, it's probably no good to try to force it, especially if you don't know what you are doing
[00:38] <Newbie44> ok is it ok if I delete all, and try using ubuntu , instead of xubuntu
[00:39] <knome> you will end up with the same hurdles
[00:39] <Newbie44> Ok its worth a shot.
[00:39] <knome> it's not really.
[00:39] <Newbie44> Im gonna redue it.thanks
[00:39] <AussieDownUnder> So, how do I make the light-locker be the default screen lock screen & also configure it? As opposed to the xscreensaver lock screen?
[00:39] <knome> i understand why it isn't, you don't understand why it is
[00:40] <knome> AussieDownUnder, remove xscreensaver.
[00:40] <knome> AussieDownUnder, there's a tool called light-locker-settings incoming for 14.04.
[00:40] <AussieDownUnder> knome, so any drawbacks if I remove xscreensaver? Will I lose screen savers all together?
[00:41] <knome> AussieDownUnder, yeah, the graphical ones.
[00:41] <AussieDownUnder> knome, also I'm pretty sure I installed light-locker & ran it in a terminal but it just never worked after a restart so I gave up.
[00:42] <AussieDownUnder> knome, so say I go remove x screen saver, how would I properly configure light-locker to take over? And not sure what you mean about the screensaver, I do want my screen to go blank after 2 minutes & the screen go into stand by, then after 5 mins the screen shuts off. Does light-locker do this. I shall go google a bit more
[00:43] <AussieDownUnder> knome, sorry duckduckgo* I mean, google is evil.
[00:43] <knome> light-locker can do that
[00:43] <knome> https://launchpad.net/light-locker-settings
[00:57] <knome> AussieDownUnder, just removing xscreensaver should do it. if that doesn't work, you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure light-locker'
[00:57] <AussieDownUnder> knome, gonna restart now.
[01:01] <AussieDownUnder> knome, easier than I thought, all I had to do last time was remove the xscreensaver lol.
[02:06] <ash_m> I assume the follow are my partitions, can some explain what these are exactly?: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cV32bFQd
[02:06] <ash_m> I installed xubuntu 13.10 to a 8GB flash drive
[02:08] <ash_m> the x-gui installer didn't prompt me to select partitions
[02:46] <newbie44> when i run   ./configure --enable-scrypt --enable-opencl   I get missing required libcurl dev
[02:46] <newbie44> how do i reinstall this
[02:50] <newbie44> anyone
[02:51] <knome> ash_m, they are system partitions (on ram), nothing to worry about
[02:52] <knome> ash_m, the filesystem's that do not start with a slash aren't hard drive partitions
[02:52] <newbie44> can u give some suggestion knome
[02:53] <knome> newbie44, install the development libraries. you are reading that command from a tutorial, it should also tell you what you need to install in order to get it working.
[02:56] <newbie44> tutorial doesnt explain the dev libraries, Can I find get more info elsewhere?
[02:56] <knome> newbie44, you need the libcurl development libraries.
[02:57] <newbie44> Yes ive been searching but cant figure it out?  sorry
[02:58] <audictive> sudo apt-cache search libcurl | grep dev
[03:02] <newbie44> well again im stuck, With no luck
[03:03] <newbie44> i have the lastest version of curl ,
[03:05] <audictive> like knome said, you need libcurl development libraries
[03:05] <xubuntu232> gdm should be installed on a new 13.10 install yes?
[03:06] <knome> xubuntu232, nope, lightdm
[03:06] <xubuntu232> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" gives lightdm is not installed...
[03:07] <xubuntu232> installing lightdm now
[03:07] <knome> xubuntu232, right, that's weird, should be installed by default
[03:08] <xubuntu232> my issue is getting no desktop on login. just blank cursor blinking and no terminal access
[03:08] <xubuntu232> given choice of gdm/lightdm which should i pick?
[03:10] <knome> xubuntu232, lightdm is what xubuntu ships be default
[03:10] <knome> xubuntu232, though i'm not sure if that's related to your issue
[03:11] <knome> worth installing lightdm and checking if that fixes, though
[03:11] <xubuntu232> thats what i've been reading.I was even able to edit the lightdm.conf. but still returned "lightdm not installed"
[03:11] <xubuntu232> upacking lightdm now
[03:15] <cubed_root> anyone ever install mac4lin?  it comes with a .sh script but no instructions. i'm just concerned it might screw up my current xubuntu & gnome environments
[03:16] <starrats> I do have Xubuntu 14.04 per your command you gave me and I spent quite a bit of time update/upgrade/dist-upgrade on the cli.  It was awesome to watch everything go by, lol!
[03:16] <starrats> Unit193 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[03:17] <Unit193> Alrighty.
[03:18] <starrats> :)
[03:19] <xubuntu232> installed lightdm and rebooted still just blinking cursor?
[03:21] <starrats> there was a slight bug tho and I tried to put it on launchpad per the comps request but for some strange reason the pw wasn't accepted and I created a new pw but i still couldn't get on. the bug had to do with the desktop didn't load up right I belieddve what the message said, this was after all the epdate/upgrade and dist-upgrade
[03:22] <starrats> no blinking cursor, if you are rtalking to me
[03:24] <starrats> sorry about my spelling, hope you understand Unit193
[03:46] <ash_m> sorry for not responding knome
[03:46] <ash_m> I wasn't paying attention to the room after awhile.
[03:46] <ash_m> but I really appreciate the input :)
[03:46] <knome> no problem
[04:01] <zsw__> so im trying to wach a movie and every 5 minuets or so the screen locks what do i have to do to make that stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:01] <knome> zsw__, calm down.
[04:02] <zsw__> i am calm what do you mean?
[04:02] <knome> no need for ten exclamation marks
[04:02] <zsw__> oh ok
[04:04] <zsw__> so what do i do
[04:05] <Unit193> Disable the screensaver?
[04:05] <zsw__> i dont have a screensver
[04:06] <Unit193> So what lock screen do you see?   What software are you using?
[04:07] <zsw__> i figure out thanks.
[04:34] <Enias> Hey guys. I'm trying to install Xubuntu 13.10 on an existing fakeraid setup, and after selecting the proper partitions and telling it to install, I'm met with a prompt that's nothing but ????
[04:38] <miseria> "crimen legal es diabolico; crimen ilegal es satanico. ¿donde esta el terrorista?: hay uno, es inmortal y se llama tiempo" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[04:39] <Noskcaj> Enias, try #ubuntu
[04:40] <Noskcaj> Most non xubuntu specific questions are better to ask there
[04:40] <Enias> Appreciated.
[04:40] <Unit193> Enias: Not at a busybox prompt or such?
[04:41] <Enias> Nope. It's just a prompt that appears after hitting install. It's just a bunch of ???s.
[04:41] <Enias> Then the installer resets itself and it's right back to where it was.
[04:42] <cfhowlett> Enias, did you md5sum check the ISO?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[04:43] <Enias> Hmm.. I'll do that.
[04:45] <Enias> Huh, I figured it out. Haha.
[04:45] <Enias> The installer was trying to default it to a logical partition when it needed to be extended.
[04:46] <Enias> Corrected that and the installer continued.
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Enias, nicely done!
[04:46] <Unit193> Enias: Ubiquity or text based Debian Installer?
[04:46] <Enias> Ubiquity.
[04:47] <Enias> Let's just hope it don't nuke my raid. :P
[04:51] <Enias> oooo... Wait. Haha, when does ubiquity install grub?
[04:51] <Unit193> At the end.
[04:51] <Enias> If I picked something else and told it where to install grub, can I perhaps change it before that point?
[04:52] <Enias> Or will it automatically set up a dual boot option?
[04:53] <Enias> hm, it failed to install grub anyway.
[04:54] <Enias> regardless of what I told it, it wanted to install it on /dev/sda/ which is not where it was supposed to go..
[04:54] <cfhowlett> Enias, you can select where grub goes
[04:54] <cfhowlett> Enias, that is the default but you can override it
[04:54] <Enias> I did previously but had a second though on it's location.  I had told it to install on one of the mappers it provided, but it tried to do dev/sda anyway.
[04:56] <Enias> If gparted is telling the truth though, xubuntu installed on the mapped partition I selected..
[04:56] <Enias> So I should be able to just manually install grub still, and point it to that partition right?
[04:57] <cfhowlett> *should*   :)
[05:11] <xubuntu289> how do i uninstall xubuntu
[05:12] <xubuntu289>  how do i open downloads how do i change my bios how do i check system settingfs
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !install
[05:14] <xubuntu289> why cant i format disks  why casnt i install windows 7 seems  i have been hijacked
[05:15] <cfhowlett> for installing windows go to #windows
[05:15] <cfhowlett> and of course you weren't hijacked
[05:16] <xubuntu769> i just ran my first xubuntu install without an internet connection.... anything i should be doing now that i've got it online? I'm worried that I dont have the right video card drivers
[05:17] <cfhowlett> xubuntu-restricted-extras will get your video codes
[05:19] <xubuntu769> i don't understand
[05:20] <cfhowlett> software center: restricted extras.  install.
[05:20] <Unit193> xubuntu769: As far as Video Drivers, check in Settings Manager -> Additional Drivers
[05:22] <Unit193> xubuntu289: Insert Windows disk, boot off of that (F10, F11, F12, Esc, etc, it varies), install?  But other than that, ##windows will be your best bet, yes.
[05:24] <xubuntu157> hello, and good morning from Greece!
[05:24] <cfhowlett> xubuntu157, greetings
[05:24] <xubuntu289> so how do i uninstall zxubuntu
[05:25] <xubuntu157> thanks <cfhowlett>
[05:25] <cfhowlett> xubuntu289, install windows.  it'll over-write the existing OS
[05:26] <xubuntu289> no it dont
[05:26] <xubuntu289> i now need a medioa driver which i cant locate
[05:26] <xubuntu157> I was trying a couple of days to change my cursor theme in Xbuntu (Xfce desktop) without success. It seems bugy...any ideas?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> xubuntu157, *seems buggy*?
[05:27] <xubuntu289> i wish i would of loaded xubuntu13.1 beside wiondows 7
embarassed?
[05:28] <xubuntu769> cfhowlett... cheers... much appreciated
[05:28] <xubuntu289> its totally buggy screwed up[ bios harshly now computer freezes any ideas
[05:28] <Sir_Leto> hi
[05:29] <Sir_Leto> Is anyone else having problems with ubuntu freezing after login?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[05:29] <xubuntu289> i now have been hyjacked byxubuntu and c ant load windows 7
[05:29] <Unit193> xubuntu157: Settings Manager -> Appearance -> Icons
[05:29] <Sir_Leto> bootrepair?
[05:30] <xubuntu289> my shoes are fine
nothing happens!
[05:30] <Unit193> xubuntu289: No you haven't, from what you said you overwrote windows, so just install windows and you'll be fine (if that's indeed what you want)
[05:30] <cfhowlett> xubuntu289, you have NOT been hijacked.  you started an installation process without doing proper research and now you blame the OS
[05:30] <Unit193> xubuntu157: What version?
[05:31] <xubuntu769> thanks again cf... great support guys... thanks... and with my abundance of ignorance i'm sure i'll be back soon... probably very soon
[05:31] <Unit193> I can change it here in 13.10 with no issues.
Xbuntu 13.10...
[05:31] <xubuntu289> 13.1 thanks for input
[05:31] <Unit193> xubuntu157: What icon theme?  How did you install it?
[05:32] <xubuntu289> burnt c d
[05:32] <xubuntu289> xburn fromn friends laptop
[05:33] <xubuntu289> should i download from site
Settings manager--->Appereance---->Icons---->elementary xfce
[05:33] <Unit193> Sir_Leto: Can you explain a bit more perhaps?  Logs?
[05:34] <Sir_Leto> How would I get these logs? it disconnects from the internet and the keyboard and mouse stop working, but the screen still animates
[05:34] <Unit193> xubuntu157: The Elementary Xfce themes don't have a major difference, try installing tango and switching to that (some applications will need to be restarted before that'll take effect.)
[05:34] <Sir_Leto> I can usean older kernel
[05:35] <xubuntu289> does any body out there figure i should download load xubuntu from ther e site since 13.1 i have now is buggy
[05:35] <holstein> xubuntu289: its not buggy here..
[05:35] <holstein> xubuntu289: you should elaborate about your hardware, and the bugginess you are experiencing
[05:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu289, what you've reported doesn't suggest buggy.  It suggest you're randomly doing things that cause issues
[05:36] <xubuntu289> sir leto has same thing as i do
I switched to "Humanity" nothing happens either...should I reboot?
[05:36] <holstein> xubuntu289: then, use an older kernel
[05:36] <Sir_Leto> xubuntu289, use kernel 3.11.0-14-generic, that's the one that works for me right now
[05:36] <holstein> xubuntu289: could be something about the way a newer kernel is conflicting with your hardware configuration
[05:37] <Sir_Leto> xubuntu289, do you have amd graphics?
[05:37] <Sir_Leto> what motherboard do you have?
[05:37] <Unit193> xubuntu157: Shouldn't have to, and I just checked, that one is a bit different.
[05:37] <xubuntu289> \what should i do
[05:37] <Sir_Leto> use another kernel
[05:37] <xubuntu289> acer aspire e500
[05:37] <holstein> xubuntu289: have you booted the older kernel? i read 2 suggestions above for that..
[05:37] <Sir_Leto> hmm
[05:38] <Sir_Leto> we have entirely different hardware but have the same issue, Unit193 I booted using an older kernel, where should I look for logs?
[05:38] <xubuntu289> my bios needs upgrade apparently to sytop freezing
[05:38] <holstein> xubuntu289: likely not the issue
[05:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu289, wrong
this is wierd! so many efforts just to change a cursor theme...any other ideas? how to change it permanetly?
[05:39] <Unit193> Sir_Leto: Generally in /var/log/
[05:39] <Unit193> xubuntu157: Curser?  You said icon theme earlier.    We're going in circles
[05:41] <xubuntu289> fu
[05:41] <holstein> xubuntu289: be as specific as possible for the volunteers, please
[05:42] <Sir_Leto> Unit193, kern.log?
[05:43] <Unit193> Sir_Leto: xorg.log, syslog, and perhaps dmesg.0 or .1
I didn't say icon...I said mouse. The mouse change does not work...
[05:44] <Unit193> xubuntu157: If I switch it to the red theme, as soon as the mouse leaves that window it goes red.
[05:45] <Unit193> It seems that doesn't take effect right away on all windows, so might want to logout and back in.
[05:45] <Sir_Leto> Unit193, so look through them for errors, or pastebin/dropbox them?
[05:46] <Unit193> I'd check for errors.
[05:46] <Unit193> Sir_Leto: If it's at bootup, you can remove the  quiet splash  boot options.
[05:47] <Sir_Leto> It freezes after automatically logging in. Technically it's not frozen because the items in my panels are still animating and the system responds to the powerbutton being pressed
[05:48] <Sir_Leto> the network disconnects and the keyboard lights don't function
that's right. The change does  not apply to all the characteristics of the mouse theme...
bye for now...I have to leave. I will look into it. Thanks for your interest...
[05:50] <Unit193> xubuntu157: The other themes may not be complete, I might try chameleon-cursor-theme if I were you.
[05:51] <Unit193> (Actually might look at it being me, screenshots looked nice.)
I tried everything...after changing many mouse theme, I've got the same behaviour, bye for now
[05:51] <xubuntu157> exit
[05:54] <Unit193> Erm, it's animated...
[06:09] <ash_m> I can't believe I can't get my ethernet port to work on this computer
[06:10] <ash_m> I did not have this problem on 2 weeks ago, but I reinstalled the OS because I sorta totally messed it up during an upgrade
[06:17] <xubuntu290> hi
[06:21] <Miltos> Hi ppl again: I've logged in with my name now...I was talking about the mouse settings before. I was trying a couple of day to change mouse theme without success.  For exampleoOnly a part of it changed the pointer always remain the same
[06:27] <Miltos> Anyone tried this? It simple in Ubuntu...but in Xubunt it seems buggy! Any suggestions...
[06:28] <cfhowlett> Miltos, I'm 12.04 and it works without issue for me.
xbuntu 13.1 has this problem...
[06:48] <Sysi> you could try selecting the cursor theme with update-alternatives
update-alternatives do not work either, I've tried this...
[06:51] <Sysi> did you log out after that?
[06:51] <Sysi> Miltos: btw, just type start of a nick and then press tab
[06:55] <Miltos> Sysi: thanks
[06:58] <Miltos> cfhowlett: Any solution to this problem? any ideas? cause the configuration of the desktop for some ppl is important. The easyness for it makes their choise for the OS they are using...(and of course the money):-)
[07:13] <Miltos> Sysi: yes I always logout and login after making changes to Xbuntu. No luck though with the change of cursro theme. This should be an old problem as far as I can remember with Xubuntu. It appeared again? Can anyone confirm with 13.1?
[08:04] <Miltos> I've just google "change mouse theme in Xubunt" and it turned some pages with instructions how to change mouse theme. Everything I tried didn't work.Just a pain...for a minor change in such rich environment?
[08:18] <likevel> that's easy. go to http://xfce-look.org and find a theme that you like. extract it to /usr/share/icons/ and chose your new theme from settings -> mouse and touchpad
[09:17] <Miltos> likevel: do you think that theme settings will work?
[10:12] <ravasz> hy everyone
[10:13] <ravasz> need some help
[10:14] <starrats> ask your question.
[10:14] <starrats> someone here should be able to help you
[10:20] <ravasz_> y want to install line on xubuntu but when y install wine som wird message apear and y can do nothing
[10:21] <ravasz_> there's no forward or back....the nessage apears on termminal
[10:27] <ravasz_> somebody please
[10:27] <ravasz_> help
[10:30] <koegs> ravasz_: what did you do?
[10:31] <ravasz_> y install wine
[10:31] <ravasz_> but it doesn't work
[10:32] <koegs> so you used the software center or what command?
[10:32] <ravasz_> firs y download line for windows
[10:33] <ravasz_> then y instal winw...sudo apt-get install wine
[10:33] <koegs> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25493
[10:33] <ravasz_> aha
[10:33] <ravasz_> whit wget command
[10:34] <ravasz_> ?
[10:34] <koegs> no, appdb says you need to install vcrun2008 via winetricks
[10:37] <ravasz_> and how do y do this instalation
[10:37] <ravasz_> y mean commands
[10:37] <koegs> did you open the link?
[10:37] <ravasz_> sory y'm new on this
[10:39] <ravasz_> yp link open
[11:39] <Miltos> I am looking for a way to change my theme cursor in Xubuntu. Any suggestions? I've googled it and the info do not make any differences...
[11:41] <koegs> Miltos: copy the folder to /usr/share/icons/, change it in the settings-menu and change the name in /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[11:44] <Miltos> koegs: I've done this thing exactly. No results...
[12:17] <serranellus> hi, geeks! Is there anybody so gentle to explain me how to get a working avi files reproduction? I've tried with Parole, GXine, VLC, Mplayer, but none of them repriduces but the audio, the screen remaining black...
[12:22] <xubuntu516> serranellus: did you try with other OSes?
[12:23] <serranellus> on that notebook there was ubuntu and puppy linux and I had never had such problems
[12:24] <serranellus> thx xubuntu516
[12:25] <xubuntu516> are you able to upload one of these? sb can try on his own.
[12:26] <serranellus> could it represent an issue the fact that I installed DeVeDe, which comes with libavdev-extras-53 instead of libavdev53? Anyway I replaced the first lib with the sexond one, since they are not compatible
[12:26] <serranellus> sb?
[12:28] <xubuntu516> maybe something is wrong with graphic driver?
[12:29] <serranellus> it could be but i don't know how to check that, however the lack seems to involve the avi fiìes only...
[12:30] <Sysi> only .avi but every .avi?
[12:30] <xubuntu516> but avi is only container. How about the actual video format inside it?
[12:30] <serranellus> hi Sysi, I've tried with two xvid
[12:32] <serranellus> I am trying now with an other kind of avi
[12:34] <xubuntu516> Maybe if you install some program which comes with it's own libraries, you can make sure where is the problem?
[12:34] <serranellus> of course, for example?
[12:35] <Sysi> if you start vlc from command line and then open the video, do you get some error?
[12:35] <knome> serranellus, have you installed xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:38] <serranellus> i installed xine with that purpose... Now i install vlc again and try from command line
[12:38] <serranellus> yes, tnx knome
[12:43] <serranellus> xubuntu516, Sysi, knome, this is vlc command line result:
[12:44] <serranellus2> xcb_xv vout display error: unknown XVideo YUV format 434d5658 (VIA)
[12:46] <serranellus2> a d then: main imput error ES_OUT_SET_(GROUP)PCR is called too late (pts_delay increased to 300 ms)
[12:46] <serranellus2> and
[12:47] <serranellus2> so, does it tell you anything?
[12:49] <serranellus2> I get also: avi demux error: no key frame set for track 1
[12:50] <serranellus2> invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B fra es detected
[12:51] <serranellus2> fraMes detected
[12:52] <serranellus2> so? xubuntu516 Sysi knome
[12:57] <serranellus2> update: also the ogg videos don't work
[13:01] <serranellus> Hi again, Sysi knome
[13:01] <dean0null> my startxfce4.log file is increasing in size by about 3mb per second
[13:01] <dean0null> anyone have an idea how to stop that?
[13:02] <dean0null> it got up to 132gb
[13:09] <serranellus> Hi, since I cannot fix the problem of the black screen in reproducting every kind of video, I wish to reinstall xubuntu. May I perform a backup of all the settings of mine? How to do that? thx
[15:42] <Newbie44> Hey guys ./configure --enable-scrypt --enable-opencl is giving me the  error Missing libcurl dev... How/where can i install this
[15:43] <knome> Newbie44, you've been told you need to install the development libraries for libcurl
[15:44] <Newbie44> Yes but i spent hours trying to figure it out.  I can not find out anywhere how to do it
[15:44] <Newbie44> This is why i am here
[15:45] <Sysi> !find libcurl4-dev
[15:46] <slickymaster-job> Newbie44: try: sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[15:46] <Newbie44> will do
[17:34] <xubuntu979> i'm totally new so be gentle... v. 12.10 have drivers for xfx r9 290?
[17:37] <xubuntu979> hello?
[17:39] <bazhang> for mining?
[17:39] <bazhang> !12.10
[17:48] <newbie44> can i ask  a question regarding some error i get when install the amd catalyst driver.. in the log file is says Build failed with reutrn vaule 2
[17:48] <newbie44> how do i go about trying to resolve this.
[17:49] <tsaavik> Anyone elses chrome fonts go wonky after upgrading to google-chrome-stable 33.0.1750.117-1?
[17:49] <newbie44> knome:  can u suggest anything
[17:58] <newbie44> anyone?
[17:59] <cfhowlett> newbie44, patience
[17:59] <newbie44> ok
[18:00] <cfhowlett> newbie44, this issue is not specifically xubuntu.  ask in #ubuntu to get more eyes on it.
[20:25] <xubuntu522> .
[20:25] <xubuntu522> hey
[21:20] <xubuntu363> hi
[21:25] <Unit193> Howdy.
[21:37] <genii> Unit193: I always imagine that you're wearing a cowboy hat when you say that ;)
[21:44] <Unit193> Never know, I could be.
[21:44] <genii> Very true
[22:21] <ali1234> does anyone have a reliable way to make thunar crash in the slice allocator?
[22:23] <ali1234> anyone even seen this crash?
[22:23] <ali1234> someone here must have... it's getting reported 100 times per day
[23:08] <xubuntu162> hi
[23:08] <slickymaster> !hi | xubuntu162
[23:09] <xubuntu668> how to wake on lan
[23:10] <xubuntu668> i have a g box sigma
[23:11] <Unit193> !info wakeonlan
[23:12] <xubuntu668> how to enable?
[23:12] <xubuntu668> i have a gbox sigma
[23:12] <slickymaster> xubuntu668: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Set_up_Wake-On-Lan_(Ubuntu)
[23:16] <xubuntu668> nothing on that page, but i goggled it and was unable to follow. i'm new
[23:21] <xubuntu668> i cannot find in in my computers bios
[23:22] <bekks> If there is no sign of Wake On Lan in your BIOS, your computer is not capable of waking on LAN activity.


[00:30] <Nubae> where can I get a .svg logo of edubuntu?
[02:02] <Eeyore-Jr> think i need a quad core, or would a core 2 duo work?
[06:47] <Robb_M> weird question about the edubuntu addon cd.........is it also lts like ubuntu itself or what?
[06:48] <Robb_M> I have tried asking this in #ubuntu itself..but..nobody seems to know the answer....
[13:10] <gpearson> Anyone have docs on how to script the install process so multiple computers are installed the same way automatically
[14:46] <sbalneav> gpearson: I think there's a page on the Ubuntu wiki for that.  I think it's either called "quickstart" or "bootstrap".  Not sure.
[22:01] <Ahmuck> what does the local app menu do ?
[22:24] <Lns> Ahmuck: What do you think it does? :)
[22:26] <Ahmuck> ?
[22:27] <Ahmuck> Lns: sbalneav local app menu
[22:27] <Ahmuck> Lns: sbalneav's local app menu, what he's working on
[22:28] <Lns> Ahmuck: I'm guessing its a menu that runs locally installed applications (to be run from the thin client directly and not from the server)
[22:39] <Ahmuck> iirc, it runs the apps, locally, but the app is installed at the server level


[15:15] <mantiena-baltix> It seems there are some problems with Ubuntu 10.04.1 daily builds - there are no new daily-live images since yesterday, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/
[15:16] <mantiena-baltix> Maybe someone can tell me where I should report issue about missing lucid daily-live cdimages?
[20:27] <mantiena-baltix> It seems there are some problems with Ubuntu 10.04.1 daily builds - there are no new daily-live images since yesterday, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/
[20:42] <jpds> mantiena-baltix: The logs are at: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/maverick/
[20:59] <mantiena-baltix> Btw, it seems the topic of this channel should be changed - Lucid RC ISOs are already tested 3 months ago ;)
[21:14] <njin> The release of the 10.04.1 is 29/07 so we have time


 heyyy ,  😔i cant able to play simulteneous audio in 2 speakers
[02:55] <kirrim> IrcsomeBot, right click on the sound icon in the System Tray, click Configure Audio Devices, then click Configure in the bottom-right corner of the audio settings menu. I think what you need is in that menu.
 https://i.imgur.com/tzXbLs3.png
 cant able to play audio in 2 device at a time
 pls help
[04:08] <kirrim> try the configuration tab at the top
[04:32] <kubuntu> hello
[04:33] <SnowNinja> how do i increase pointer speed? the settings dont give it enough speed
[08:12] <SpudULike> Hi room.  I have a USB headset with very quiet mic input and want to submit a bug report.  I am using 22.10.  Has anything fundimental changed when reporting audio bugs on 22.10, now that Pipewire has been included?
 i think that he wasn't talking to you, they are people from the IRC kubuntu chat, i don't think they are able to see our messages (re @SA: Ne this did not help me)
[10:54] <arraybolt3[m]> @desn087: The Telegram-to-IRC bridge works both ways - we can see your messages.
 What do you think if I'm still there? In the chat you sent me? I have reinstalled Kubuntu in the time Initially it went well now the error comes back. The really bad thing is that I lack the home folder and all my data and programs. 😡 (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> SA: are you still around (I can't tell from IRC)?)
[11:45] <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: It wasn't meant to be offensive - in IRC, when someone disconnects, they aren't able to see any more messages until they reconnect. Telegram, on the other hand, lets you see messages that went by when you were gone. tomreyn is using IRC, whereas you are using Telegram.
[11:46] <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: tomreyn suggested resetting bios to manufacturer defaults. if this does not help, try booting kubuntu with !kernelparm "acpi=off" as a (temporary) workaround, then just shutdown normally, and after it powered off, start kubuntu again. to see whether the issue is gone. if not, persist the acpi=off workaround in /etc/default/grub (and run "sudo update-grub") until you get around to install a bios upgrade - which you may need to do
[11:46] <arraybolt3[m]> anyways.
[11:48] <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: Wait... you lost your data doing the reinstall? That's bad. Do you have backups? If not, stop everything and power the computer down as soon as possible. It may be possible to recover some of the lost data.
 OK, I've done the factory reset with bios without success. Then I'll try again..... (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> If so, I would suggest resetting bios to manufacturer defaults. if this does not help, try booting kubuntu with !kernelparm "acpi=off" as a (temporary) workaround, then just shutdown normally, and after it powered off, start kubuntu again. to see whether the issue is gone. if not, persist the acpi=off workaround in /etc/default/grub (and
[11:49] <arraybolt3> SpudWLike: Assuming that you are the user who was previously named SpudULike, I *think* (but could be wrong) that Kubnutu still uses Pulseaudio.
 I didn't mean anything bad, I was just annoyed about the loss (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: It wasn't meant to be offensive - in IRC, when someone disconnects, they aren't able to see any more messages until they reconnect. Telegram, on the other hand, lets you see messages that went by when you were gone. tomreyn is using IRC, whereas you are using Telegram.)
[11:52] <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: That makes sense. Was the data you lost replaceable? If not, we may be able to recover it if we act quickly.
 OK that's what I want to try, thank you (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: tomreyn suggested resetting bios to manufacturer defaults. if this does not help, try booting kubuntu with !kernelparm "acpi=off" as a (temporary) workaround, then just shutdown normally, and after it powered off, start kubuntu again. to see whether the issue is gone. if not, persist the acpi=off workaround in /etc/default/grub (and run "sudo update-grub") until you get
 oh great then (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @desn087: The Telegram-to-IRC bridge works both ways - we can see your messages.)
 I have something on an external hard drive, but unfortunately it's been 6 months, at least so. But the program settings are gone. Have a brother printer and that's a big problem to get it running (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: Wait... you lost your data doing the reinstall? That's bad. Do you have backups? If not, stop everything and power the computer down as soon as possible. It may be possible to recover some of the lost data.)
[11:59] <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: Ah. In the future, you may be able to back up things like that by also backing up hidden files and folders.
 OK, how do you do that exactly? You can also copy it to an external hard drive? (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @SA: Ah. In the future, you may be able to back up things like that by also backing up hidden files and folders.)
[12:07] <arraybolt3> @SA: Exactly. You should be able to tell Dolphin to show hidden files by pressing Ctrl+H (or click the application menu in the upper-right corner of the window and then enable "Show Hidden Files". Then you can just copy everything (including the hidden files and folders) onto an external drive.
 OK it's easy 👍 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> @SA: Exactly. You should be able to tell Dolphin to show hidden files by pressing Ctrl+H (or click the application menu in the upper-right corner of the window and then enable "Show Hidden Files". Then you can just copy everything (including the hidden files and folders) onto an external drive.)
[13:40] <blutigerbeginner> hey leuteich nutze Ubuntu 20.04 wie kann ich hier einen bootfähigen Windows Usbstick erstellen?, die Versio habe ich bereits von microsoft.com runtergeladen!
[13:42] <blutigerbeginner> hey
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:27] <non> is the ubuntu packaging guide still reliable?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> it most likely is ...it's also part of the devel guide so i would say yes
[14:45] <non> BluesKaj: Thanks, edit-patch command seems to be broken on my machine so i'm just curious that the documentation might be outdated
[14:47] <BluesKaj> !bug
[14:49] <non> BluesKaj: thanks gonna try reproducing it and report it if it happen to not be my machine's configuration issue
 Cinnamon or KDE?
 Cinnamon Stable. So I choose cinnamon.
 KDE has Lts version n its so stable (re @nomislou: Cinnamon Stable. So I choose cinnamon.)
[18:37] <cliffdeng> ls
[18:37] <cliffdeng> cd
[18:39] <cliffdeng> ls
[18:39] <cliffdeng> gnome-terminal
[18:45] <cliffdeng> ls
[18:49] <cliffdeng> sudo apt-get python3
 v0p9
 vop9
 voP9
 v0P9
 S8R1
 is offtopic irc only?
[21:55] <arraybolt3[m]> @PuzzDio: I believe so - I don't know of any way to join #kubuntu-offtopic from Telegram.
 TGNZ
 Hi everyone


 enkeyz: install the backports ppa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
 backports has 5.17
[07:12] <enkeyz> Morning! Just made a fresh install of Kubuntu 19.10, and installed some snap packages(chromium, vscode), and after a reboot, all my snap packages disappeared from the Application Launcher
[07:13] <enkeyz> (they still can be accessed from terminal tho)
[07:23] <enkeyz> *SOLVED* by putting "emulate sh -c 'source /etc/profile.d/apps-bin-path.sh'" to /etc/zsh/zprofile
[07:23] <enkeyz> I just wonder why I need hacks for using an other shell other than bash
[07:55] <boingo-00> This is IRC, just text and nothing else
[08:58] <airmen55> Hi people, ahich package / command should I use to get a list of wlan's to chose one to connect too.. up to now I have to robb a ethernt cable from another pc each time I want to access thee net from my new kubuntu 19.04 installation.. thanks in advance for any and every help on this theme.. (I am a 71yo who has been using the net sincce the days of arpanet accessed vie a tty als I.O. device..)
[09:00] <airmen55> had a pause in linux use of nealy a decade.. btw soll ich lieber Deutsche hier verwenden?
[09:21] <chrisrrrr> Hi. I just upgraded to Eoan, and there's is still digikam 5.9. Why is there no digikam 6.x?
[09:30] <lordievader> !de | airmen55
[09:31] <lordievader> airmen55: Regarding your question, if you are running NetworkManager you should have an icon in your taskbar from which you can select wireless networks.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:19] <chrisrrrr> Hey, so nobody knows what's going on with the digikam version that ships with eoan? Why it's not updated?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> chrisrrrr,  does digikam work ?
[11:35] <chrisrrrr> BluesKaj: yes, but there are bug fixes in the newer releases, not to mention new features
[11:36] <chrisrrrr> In particular for a nasty bug in the editor
[11:36] <BluesKaj> !bug
[11:36] <BluesKaj> chrisrrrr, ^
[11:38] <chrisrrr> It IS fixed, but not in 5.9
[11:38] <enkeyz> Hey guys! Can somebody tell me, why snap apps(GTK) doesn't use themes that I set in KDE Settings for GTK apps? I'm using Kubuntu 19.10(Plasma 5.16.5)
[11:38] <chrisrrr> It's been fixed since 6.0 or 6.1. The current version is 6.3
[11:38] <chrisrrr> So is there no maintainer for digikam?
[11:40] <oerheks1> chrisrrr, install the snap version?
[11:40] <oerheks1> https://snapcraft.io/digikam
[11:40] <BluesKaj> chrisrrr,  I don't know, but you can ask in #kubuntu-devel
[11:42] <chrisrrr> Yeah, i wanted to avoid the snap version. Thanks for the hint. I'll ask there
[11:43] <oerheks1> most maintainers switch to snaps/flatpack/appimage, so ..
[11:44] <enkeyz> too bad theming snap apps with KDE is sucks
[11:45] <enkeyz> Ubuntu 19.10 fully implemented snaps, you can use them without any issue, but in KDE you need to hack
 Good morning
 @enkeyz, I hope that there will be a snap similar to the "gnome frequently used themes" snap for KDE.
 I have the same problem.
 But I have to say that this is really minor.
 All in all. Snaps work great in Kubuntu 18.04!
 @Swift110, Good morning social Guru!
[18:57] <ricardo_> kubuntu rulz
 @Linuxophil, How r u
[19:25] <enkeyz48> Yo! I dunno if anybody noticed it, but installing some apps from snap is broking the GTK themes
[19:26] <enkeyz48> https://imgur.com/a/ApNY69F Both Postman and Robo 3T only using Arc theme's titlebar
[19:26] <enkeyz48> Installing them from their website solves this issue
[19:40] <enkeyz48> made a bug report also
[19:40] <enkeyz48> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413331
[19:44] <enkeyz48> I dunno who's idea was this sandboxed app manager, but it's just awful
[19:47] <enkeyz48> the whole Linux system is a big sandbox, why we need a sandbox in a sandbox
 Lol