[11:41] <lupine_85> the drivers aren't really ready for prime-time ;)
[11:41] <Andypat10> welll i have a hp printer hooked up to a windows xp comp that i want to use to print i have this comp and the comp with the printer bot hooked up to the network
[11:41] <lupine_85> so you have to work with them a bit
[11:42] <noelferreira> how can i get it working at startup?
 then....
[11:42] <Andypat10> i can even go as far as accessing their files i just need to kno how to set up that printer for use
[11:42] <lupine_85> you can add the line "wireless-ap <MAC ADDRESS>" below the line "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:42] <znortfl> Come on people, my last hope: neither the official nor the nvidia-glx driver works with my X server. What should I do? (I am running edgy)
 u need to configure ur cups service in our Ubuntu Machine...
[11:43] <Andypat10> ok and how do i do that
[11:43] <lupine_85> znortfl: does the "nv" driver work?
[11:43] <znortfl> lupine_85, moment
but if the printer is plug in to a Windows BOX then maybe u need to setup winbind too
[11:44] <alecjw> znortfl: there are beta drivers which might work
[11:44] <Jessi> that did not help
 then the best option u have is pluging this printer in to a LinuxBox and start a samba basic configuration with Cups support...
 i mean share printer...
[11:45] <znortfl> lupine, when I tell X to use NV as driver, I start X and then I get a screen with green lines all over the place and white lines blinking on the bottom of the screen
[11:45] <jiger> godmachine81: thanks. I am now up with edgy kubuntu :)
[11:45] <alecjw> znortfl: add the repo: deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm and then install nvidia-glx
[11:45] <znortfl> looks like a lot of bollocks to me
[11:45] <Andypat10> well i think i might kno what to do in gnome
[11:45] <znortfl> okay alecjw will do
[11:45] <Jessi> what is the apt-get for lynx?
[11:46] <alecjw> znortfl: you are using edgy, aren't you?
[11:46] <alecjw> Jessi: sudo aptitude install lynx
[11:46] <Andypat10> hold on alien
[11:46] <Alien> please somebody out there can help me with samba+ldap???? (1371 users)
[11:46] <Jessi> thanks
[11:46] <Alien> PLEASEEEEEEEEE
[11:46] <Alien> ??????
[11:46] <jiger> can anyone confirm that what default kernel does kubuntu edgy come with?
[11:47] <alecjw> Alien: what do you need help with
[11:47] <znortfl> Yep alecjw
[11:47] <Alien> I have an Ubuntu-Server(only console) with LDAP+SAMBA3
[11:47] <Jessi> It says not found :/
 LDAP and Samba3 are running very good
 i can go to add printer select network printer and select windows printer and find my printer on the network and find the driver for it but i click on install driver then idk where to put it
[11:48] <alecjw> and what do you need help doing, znortfl
[11:48] <dbmonk74> could someone point me in the right direction? I've been scouring the forums but not finding what I need - which is to figure out how to install video drivers
 the problem is if i try to made a group with ldap-account-manager i get this:
[11:48] <lupine_85> !video
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:48] <alecjw> Jessi: i think it might be in the universe repos: have a look
[11:48] <lupine_85> bah
 No Samba3 Domain defined
[11:48] <znortfl> alecjw, apt-get tells me that nvidia-glx is the newest version
[11:48] <lupine_85> dbmonk74: which card?
[11:48] <Jessi> Okay
[11:48] <lupine_85> don't forget to apt-get update
 then i check the tree structure and i seee
[11:49] <Jessi> updating now
[11:49] <alecjw> Alien: sorry, i can't help you
[11:49] <dbmonk74> lupine_85: intel integrated - 82625 i think... i will have to double check. tired
[11:49] <alecjw> don't know what that means
 the fuck... samba domain into dc=example,dc=com
[11:49] <Jessi> alot of 404 errors
[11:49] <alecjw> znortfl: have you sudo aptitude update'ed?
 what the hell... some body else out thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:50] <savvas> what's the default gnome window manager?
[11:50] <Alien> LDAP+samba3
[11:50] <Alien> ????????
[11:50] <znortfl> alecjw, that's the point, I cant come into X
 did u catch my most recent post
[11:50] <lupine_85> savvas: metacity

 i can go to add printer select network printer and select windows printer and find my printer on the network and find the driver for it but i click on install driver then idk where to put it...
[11:51] <alecjw> znortfl: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
 idk where to put it?????????????
[11:51] <Alien> what is this?????
[11:52] <alecjw> you can do that in the commandline, znortfl
[11:52] <savvas> finally!! :) thanks lupine_85, i installed beryl and it had some problems heh
[11:52] <FRET> good morning
[11:52] <Jessi> Jairun, did you figure out of a live CD boot will harm my files?
[11:52] <Andypat10> srry im kinda new to linux
[11:52] <highneko> What's the control key for whitespace using irc?
[11:52] <terrox> Pro: how do I check if it worked?
 wait a minute
[11:52] <Jessi> highneko, alt f4
[11:52] <noelferreira> many thanks lupine_85
 ok
[11:53] <JairunCaloth> jessi: live cd dosn't touch anything
[11:53] <noelferreira> it is working nicely
[11:53] <highneko> Jessi: Thank you
[11:53] <JairunCaloth> jessi: you could run a live cd on a system without any HDD's
[11:53] <highneko> highneko: Nvm, damn you.
[11:53] <Jessi> Jairunm Can I fix my system on a live CD boot?
[11:53] <highneko> Damn wrong name. What's the control key for whitespace using irc?
 i write to ur pv..
[11:54] <znortfl> alecjw, could you tell me again what to do from start? I am losing track of all the commands...
 ?
i write to u a private mensage
[11:54] <alecjw> ok, znortfl, do the commmand sudo nano /etc/apt/sources/list
[11:54] <Andypat10> ok
[11:54] <Jessi> I think I will deal with this tomorrow.
[11:54] <Jessi> Thanks a ton for all the help you have given thus far.
[11:55] <MrGreen> does easyubuntu work with edgy?
[11:55] <alecjw> znortfl: then you add the line deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm to the end
 u don't se my mesagues?
[11:55] <Andypat10> nope
[11:55] <xipietotec> MrGreen: no, it is not configured for edgy yet
[11:55] <Gasten> EasyUbuntus homepage seems to be offline. Is there any other page I can download it from?
[11:55] <MrGreen> ok ok
[11:55] <dbmonk74> lupine_85: intel 82865
[11:55] <MrGreen> thank
[11:55] <znortfl> alecjw, done
[11:55] <zlack> how would i check which process is blocking my soundcard?
[11:55] <terrox> ProN00b: do I need to install anything else?
[11:55] <alitis4> in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)
[11:55] <MrGreen> will edubutu work
 so then u can see the printer and get the drivers rigth??????
[11:55] <alecjw> znortfl: and you've saved the file?
[11:55] <znortfl> alecjw, I do not need to comment anything?
[11:56] <znortfl> saved now alecjw
[11:56] <alecjw> no, you don't znortfl
[11:56] <znortfl> okay. Saved the file
 so then u can see the printer and get the drivers rigth??????
[11:56] <ProN00b> terrox, i didn't
[11:56] <Andypat10> alien: yea i just dont kno where the ppd file is
[11:56] <alitis4> in slackware on xfce, i got the xfsamba4 ... how i can add this on ubuntu?(i run xfce)
[11:56] <Andypat10> alien: im a slow typer srry
[11:56] <mirak> ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:56] <mirak> I got this when doing an ls -l
  ok let me check
[11:57] <alecjw> znortfl: are you using edgy and do you have nvidia-glx installed?
 don't worried
 are u female?
[11:57] <terrox> ProN00b, k thanks. Funny how none of the guides or anything worked but this simple method does.. I better post that in LEgend forums
 or male?
[11:57] <Andypat10> male
[11:57] <znortfl> I am using edgy, and no, I just removed nvidia-glx
[11:57] <jiger> does anyone know how to upgrade kernel of edgy to 2.6.17?
 wait a minute
[11:57] <znortfl> by the way, I just seemed to lose my cursor :P
[11:57] <dang`r`us> hi
[11:58] <Andypat10> !ppd
[11:58] <alecjw> ok, znortfl, you need to do this command: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <dang`r`us> is there a separate channel to get help with ati binary drivers?
[11:58] <znortfl> alecjw, okay brb
[11:58] <Andypat10> !printers
[11:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:58] <delire> dang`r`us: #ati
[11:58] <Rookie_> !ati
[11:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:58] <dang`r`us> delire, thanks
[11:58] <dang`r`us> Rookie_, thanks too, but that was not my problem, unfortunately
[11:58] <xipietotec> Printing in ubuntu....is difficult
[11:58] <xipietotec> =P
[11:59] <evil_cow> what repos i need to install x-window-system-dev
[11:59] <evil_cow> ?
[11:59] <evil_cow> pls
[11:59] <znortfl> okay alecjw, done that
[11:59] <evil_cow> i need it
[11:59] <terrox> ProN00b, you wouldn't happen to have tried Legends in ubuntu have you?
 OS of the windows machine?
[11:59] <ProN00b> terrox, no, what exactly is that ?
[11:59] <alecjw> znortfl: dow do sudo dpkg-reconfgure xserver-xorg to reconfigure it
[11:59] <Andypat10> XP
[12:00] <znortfl> oke alecjw brb
[12:00] <alecjw> znortfl: wait
[12:00] <dbmonk74> anyone else able to assist with a video driver install?
[12:00] <terrox> A FPS clone of Tribes, I happen to be the team lead hehe.. http://legendsthegame.net
[12:00] <znortfl> alecjw, yeah?
[12:00] <alecjw> znortfl: and tell it to use the nvidia driver
[12:00] <alecjw> then reboo
[12:00] <alecjw> *reboot
[12:00] <terrox> I know it does work but I can't get the .sh installer running ,,
[12:00] <znortfl> alecjw, already figured that ;)
[12:00] <alecjw> ok
[12:00] <ProN00b> terrox, chmod +x ?
[12:01] <terrox> syntax error
[12:01] <Keyseir> Anyone here use VMWARE?
[12:01] <evil_cow> please help me
[12:01] <ProN00b> terrox, chmod +x installer.sh
[12:01] <znortfl> alecjw, the reconfigure crashes then I entered the desired color depth. Is that ok?
[12:02] <znortfl> alecjw, crashing is not really the word. It says something about overwriting
[12:02] <alecjw> znortfl: it didin't crash, it had finished asking you questions :D
[12:02] <znortfl> alecjw, no wai :P
[12:02] <znortfl> alecjw, rebooting now
[12:02] <znortfl> brb
[12:02] <alecjw> k
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
 check this link
[12:03] <evil_cow> E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev
[12:03] <Cyber_Stalker> hey
 seacrhc if ur printer is in this list
[12:03] <Cyber_Stalker> you see what people are saying about ubuntu edgy + upgrade?
[12:03] <terrox> ProN00b, now it says it cant find it
[12:03] <Alien> REPEAT Somebody Can help me with samba3 + LDAP???????????????
[12:04] <Alien> REPEAT Somebody Can help me with samba3 + LDAP???????????????
[12:04] <Andypat10> alien: yes  HP     PSC 1410     hpijs     Yes     Yes     5.10     Detected (and works) as PSC 1400. Both scanning and printing work.
[12:04] <ProN00b> terrox, obviously you need to replace installer.sh with the filename of the installer
[12:04] <n1gke> I've been having difficulties with Edgy Eft, so I am staying with 6.06 LTS for the time being.
[12:04] <apokryphos> Alien: stop
[12:04] <apokryphos> !patience | alien
[12:04] <ubotu> alien: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:04] <creaphot> hi there. i have a xserver crash on shutdown, locks even the kernel. on edgy but since dapper. card ati x700. suggestions, pls?
[12:05] <terrox> ProN00b, yeah I know that but its still not finding it after chmod
 is ok, i'm only are write for the new online users
[12:05] <ProN00b> terrox,
[12:05] <Cyber_Stalker> n1gke slash dot has news about it being a mission to upgrade :/
[12:05] <ProN00b> ./installer.sh
[12:05] <ProN00b> or what are you doing ?
[12:05] <n1gke> Thanks Cyber, will check that also.
 and i don't sleep for 2 days... then maybe this is my problem...
[12:05] <Gasten> EasyUbuntus homepage seems to be offline. Is there any other page I can download it from?
[12:05] <Znortfl> alecjw, the graphical enviroment works now
[12:06] <terrox> the .sh must be buggered, it gives syntax error
[12:06] <alecjw> yay!
[12:06] <n1gke> I have 6.06 on three computers. Still working great. Edgy was rather edgy to say the least.... lol
[12:06] <Znortfl> is there anything I should do now further?
 what do u need to download
??????
[12:06] <alecjw> Znortfl: no there isnt
[12:06] <Gasten> Alien: Easyubuntu.
 what the hell is that????
[12:07] <Gasten> Alien: Please mind your language.
[12:07] <alecjw> Znortfl: there is one thing that i reommend you do now -- install beryl!
 jajaja i'm losing my mind
[12:07] <Znortfl> alecjw, then there is nothing left for me but to thank you. You helped me great. Thanks!
[12:07] <Znortfl> alecjw, you mean xgl>
 sorry was only a joke....
[12:07] <alecjw> Znortfl: glad i could help you!
[12:07] <Cyber_Stalker> Aliases relax dude
[12:07] <Cyber_Stalker> Alien*
 sorry i'm from Cuba and i have a very bad english grammar
[12:08] <Znortfl> alecjw, what did you mean by beryl btw?
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> wow
[12:08] <creaphot> apart from the x shutdown problem, mic capture vanished with edgy (sound blaster live). someone experienced that?
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> they have computers in cuba :P impressive
[12:08] <lupine_85> terrox: /bin/sh points to dash now
[12:08] <alecjw> Znortfl: its like xgl but i've heard that it works much better
[12:08] <Znortfl> "sudo apt-get install beryl" ?
 yes we have some 486
[12:08] <lupine_85> temporarily switch it to bash and the script should work - or just run "bash <script>" - either will work
 i have now 3 486 computers
[12:09] <Cyber_Stalker> ...?
 do u kno how i get the ppd file to install my printer driver to?
[12:09] <marcin_ant> hi guys I just upgraded to edgy - and finally everything is working on my asus p5b mobo
 one of this computers have Samba3(PDC) with 1371 users.... romaing profiles and FileServer
[12:09] <Cube`srN> harlo
[12:09] <dbmonk74> anyone have a moment to help with a video resolution issue?
[12:10] <alecjw> Znortfl: nope, its a bit harder than that, try this tutorial: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers but leave out the bit where it tells you to install the nvidia drivers
[12:10] <n1gke> I have had the pleasure of many contacts with ham radio stations on the island of Cuba over the years.
[12:10] <alecjw> becuase you've already done that!
[12:10] <Znortfl> okay alecjw, thanks :)
[12:10] <marcin_ant> but I got problem with logitech ultrax media desktop
[12:10] <Cube`srN> anyone can teach me how to install 6.06 from live cd?
[12:10] <terrox> lupine_85 yeah that nearly worked, I think the script is still not a complete file though,
[12:10] <marcin_ant> can someone tell me how to configure keyboard and mouse keys to work properly?
[12:10] <Cube`srN> anyone can teach me how to install 6.06 from live cd? <---
 i can tell you must be careful with the partition part
[12:11] <Cube`srN> ok
[12:11] <linuxboy> when I do a beagle search for mail, I double click on the mail that it found and it tries to open in firefox
[12:11] <marcin_ant> is there some good software to do this? except xav and few settings in xorg that doesn't work with my optical mouse ;/
 can be dangerous because don't update really good if u make a new partition
[12:11] <Cube`srN> i got 2 partition now
 then u have to close the wizard an open it again...
[12:12] <Cube`srN> cos i can't really boot up the live cd
[12:12] <Cube`srN> it jus get stuck
[12:12] <zlack> how can i check which process is using /dev/audio ?
[12:12] <Cube`srN> at diff places
[12:12] <n1gke> marcin_ant, you have to adjust your xorg.conf file to do that.
[12:12] <crimsun> zlack: lsof /dev/audio*
[12:12] <dang`r`us> zlack, sudo fuser /dev/audio
 what kind of problem u have with the livecd
[12:12] <buzzy> !jre
 why don't start?
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I already did but it still is working partially
[12:13] <buzzy> !java
[12:13] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:13] <Cube`srN> i can't start from the cd
[12:13] <blekos> how can i reomve old kernel images?
[12:13] <Andypat10> !printer
[12:13] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:13] <Cube`srN> just get stuck at uncompressing kernel
[12:13] <zlack> dang`r`us, crimsun : both don't output anything
[12:13] <Cube`srN> of something
[12:13] <n1gke> marcin_ant, look in /etc/X11 and make changes ONLY after you have backup file.
[12:13] <Alien> !samba3+ldap
[12:13] <zlack> dang`r`us, crimsun : something is blocking my soundcard, since xmms won't play anything
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba3+ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <marcin_ant> n1gke: this mouse has two additional buttons (thumb side) that work ok with some additional settings in xorg.conf
[12:13] <n1gke> I was having difficulty with the MGA driver for dual head video card, but managed to make it work.
 shutdown -r now
[12:14] <darkangel_> hello
[12:14] <zlack> Alien: i want to solve the issue, not reboot my system
[12:14] <Alien> u have to read man
[12:14] <gogeta> issue?
 with a reboot u will solve the problem...
[12:14] <darkangel_> is there any people from turkey
[12:14] <n1gke> marcin_ant, yeah. I had to make adjustment for new mouse also. Now trying to manage a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, CHORE....
[12:14] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but this mouse also has scroller that has in fact 5 buttons
[12:14] <creaphot> nobody on my X crash and mic problem?
[12:14] <Cube`srN> can i start up
[12:15] <zlack> Alien: i know, but there should be an easier way - not the m$ way
[12:15] <Cube`srN> can i start up the installation without booting the live cd
[12:15] <dang`r`us> zlack, you might try reloading your sound modules
[12:15] <n1gke> marcin_ant, hmmmm.....  Perhaps something XORG doesn't have yet ?
[12:15] <mirak> so now ubuntu is compiled for i686 ?
 jajajajaja u are rigth i'm only joking
[12:15] <dang`r`us> in my experience alsa can be brittle and sometimes get stuck (seems to be better on edgy/2.6.17 though)
[12:15] <n1gke> mirak, heck yes. been out for awhile now.
[12:15] <marcin_ant> n1gke: xev says that it has button 4 and 5 as scroll up and down
[12:16] <marcin_ant> n1gke: button 2 when I press roll
[12:16] <mirak> n1gke: but I mean everything ?
[12:16] <mirak> is it needed to run chroot for ubuntu amd64 ?
[12:16] <Alien> !samba3
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Alien> !ldap
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Cube`srN> !installation live
[12:16] <Cube`srN> !install
[12:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:17] <n1gke> mirak, that I can't answer, sorry.
[12:17] <marcin_ant> n1gke: and button when I push roller left and unfortunatelly anything when I click scroller to right side
[12:17] <zlack> restarting X helps as well :)

[12:17] <n1gke> marcin_ant, can you direct my to page with information about the mouse please ?
[12:18] <Rico-> hey, is there any way to delete packages none of my packages need any more?
[12:18] <Rico-> orphaned packages i guess
[12:18] <marcin_ant> n1gke: so this mouse is working properly except scrolling left and right - up and down is ok
[12:18] <Cube`srN> can anyone teach me how to start installation from a live cd
[12:18] <Keyseir> Anyone here use VMWARE?
[12:18] <marcin_ant> n1gke: to page about this mouse?
[12:18] <n1gke> marcin_ant, yes please.
[12:19] <n1gke> Cube`srN, if your computer bios is set to boot from CD, then you should be all set really.
 restart the machine and then put del button during the boot procces
[12:19] <CPF_> Hi guys.
[12:19] <n1gke> Cube`srN, boot the computer with the CD in place and just answer a few simple questions really.
[12:20] <n1gke> Hi ya CPF.
[12:20] <CPF_> Anyone here knows a hyperterminal-alike program for linux?
 maybe u don't have the boot from CD option active in ur BIOS
[12:20] <sulo> Hi, can someone help me solve this: I just installed the NVIDIA kernel driver. When booting, X won't start, complaining that the X module is newer than the kernel module (nvidia.o). if I do 'rmmod nvidia' and then run startx, everything works fine. It seems that an older nvidia-module is loaded at boot by gdm/X or by the system startup files. How can I find this and disable it?
[12:21] <n1gke> Alien, are you near Havana ?
[12:21] <Cube`srN> [19:20]  <Alien> <Cube`srN> maybe u don't have the boot from CD option active in ur BIOS <---- i do
[12:21] <Cube`srN> i ran from the cd
[12:21] <Cube`srN> i get
[12:21] <Cube`srN> the menu
[12:21] <Cube`srN> i select
[12:21] <Cube`srN> run/install
[12:21] <Cube`srN> but it din ask me if i want to install or not
[12:21] <Cube`srN> -.-
[12:21] <marcin_ant> n1gke: http://tinyurl.com/ydnkmh
[12:21] <Kawaii-Panda> does anyone know a kid-friendly site that would explain to people with no knowledge of licensing, operating systems, etc. what linux is?
[12:21] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Edubuntu?
[12:22] <n1gke> marcin_ant, thanks. I am going to L(O)(O)K at that now. brb\
[12:22] <Kawaii-Panda> CPF_: website
 i'm from Cienfuegos (center of the island) but i do i know Havana and have good friends there
[12:22] <CPF_> ubuntu.org
[12:22] <v-dogg> any idea how long it should take for dd to overwrite a 15Gb hard drive? it's been doing it now for two hours at least :)
[12:22] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: http://www.edubuntu.org/
[12:22] <highneko> When executing certain commands, my terminal colors all go while, and I think it froze. I use ubuntu edgy. This is the command: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
 if u say YES what happen then?
[12:23] <infidel> !ati
[12:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:23] <n1gke> Alien, thanks.
 why u ask???????
[12:24] <Kawaii-Panda> CPF_: i really do mean a kid-friendly site, that windows users could access so that they can learn more about linux and what open-source software is about.
[12:24] <CPF_> Anyone here has a prog for connection through serial (null modem) cable?
[12:24] <Cube`srN> [19:23]  <Alien> <Cube`srN> if u say YES what happen then? <---- if just hang while loading
[12:24] <n1gke> Alien, I have ham radio contacts from Cuba sometimes.
[12:24] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Isn't that kid-friendly website then?
[12:24] <Kawaii-Panda> thanks for the help though ^_^
[12:24] <n1gke> marcin_ant, which model is that mouse please.
 ohhh nice... good...
[12:24] <n1gke> Alien, yes. Very much so.
 what kind of hardware do u have?
[12:26] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Maybe this one is better: http://www.osef.org/
[12:26] <buzzy> people can you say me why i get this sound device error?http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8313/sounderrorns6.jpg
[12:26] <buzzy> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8313/sounderrorns6.jpg
[12:26] <Cube`srN> Alien : i am on a p3 600mhz, 192mb ram
[12:26] <Cube`srN> old system which i am using to test
[12:26] <Cube`srN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=boot.png <--- i got to this screen
[12:26] <tms_> hello
[12:26] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I just found some additional info and this is propably this mouse: http://tinyurl.com/yeg56m
[12:26] <Cube`srN> i select the 1st option it get stuck when loading
[12:27] <Kawaii-Panda> thanks anyway i did a search and i found this: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question246.htm
[12:27] <Alien> hey u can't install Kubuntu tehere
 is Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:27] <Cube`srN> ubu
[12:27] <marcin_ant> n1gke: it's decribed just as Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse (on it's bottom)
[12:27] <CPF_> Kawaii-Panda: Ok ^^
[12:27] <Kawaii-Panda> Alien: why not both. im using kde and gnome, and they're cool.
 u are using that but sure with a alternate iso????????
[12:28] <CPF_> And I use ubuntu with fluxbox :)
[12:28] <Cube`srN> it get stuck at loading the kernel
[12:28] <Cube`srN> -.-
[12:28] <leafw> woah, ubuntu just crashed instead of entering suspended mode when run out of battery. And now on reboot boonobo refuses to run, and asks to remove all applets  and usggests killing the bonobo-activation-server, which doesn't help.
[12:28] <leafw> any clues?
 gnome need more RAM and speed than KDE
[12:28] <CPF_> Cube`srN: Maybe try to install Xubuntu?
[12:28] <leafw> by the way how can one reboot and force fsck ?
 then u can try with Kubuntu
[12:29] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but this article http://tinyurl.com/yhqjxy (in polish only ;) sorry) says that it's mouse is exactly the same as Cordless Click! Plus
[12:29] <Cube`srN> can i not install
[12:29] <Cube`srN> from the gui
 u can try with Kubuntu-Alternate
[12:29] <CPF_> You're in the gui now?
[12:29] <CPF_> sudo apt-get install kde
[12:29] <Cube`srN> no i dun think i can get into the gui
[12:30] <CPF_> Command, if you get that far...
[12:30] <Alien> Ubuntu and Kubuntu have Alternate ISOS this is for machines with low reformace
[12:30] <Cube`srN> ok
[12:30] <SpacyAK> Hi, has anyone made the Samsung SH-W163A s-ata dvd bruner working with any Ubuntu? In SuSE it works. The other S-ATA hard drives also work perfect.
[12:30] <Cube`srN> so i type sudo apt-get install kde
[12:30] <cahoot> leafw:one way is shutdown -rF  - else touch /forcefsck
[12:30] <Alien> yeah u can do this too
[12:30] <CPF_> Cube`srN: Yah, that should install kde
[12:31] <Alien> but is better download a iso fo Kubuntu
 iso of Kubuntu
[12:31] <leafw> thanks cahoot
[12:31] <tiger__it> Ive a problem when I try to upgrade / update Ubuntu
[12:31] <tiger__it> Can I post my problem ?
[12:31] <CPF_> tiger__it: Spit it out.
[12:31] <jmsbwtr_> lo, when i upgraded from dapper to edgy it seems to of messed up alsa, as both kaffeine (using xine engine) and rhythmbox have messed up, both now temp fixed using oss
[12:31] <Alien> !samba3+ldap
[12:31] <tiger__it> CFP_ ??
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba3+ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <jmsbwtr_> how can i sort out alsa?
[12:31] <tiger__it> The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
[12:31] <tiger__it>   adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier adept-updater arts debtags kaffeine kaffeine-xine katapult kde-guidance
[12:31] <tiger__it>   kde-systemsettings kdepasswd kdeprint kdm keep khelpcenter klipper kmenuedit kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins konqueror-nsplugins konversation
[12:31] <tiger__it>   kpersonalizer ksmserver ksplash ksystemlog kwin-style-crystal libpythonize0 libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql librsync1 libsqlite0
[12:31] <tiger__it>   openoffice.org-kde poster pykdeextensions python2.4-dev rdiff-backup speedcrunch
[12:32] <ghenry> hi all, we have been running breezy amd64 server for a year now, and would like to upgrade to dapper LTS, do you think editing sources.list is wise and doing apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:32] <tiger__it> Every time I try to do upgrade / update ... I;m  going to loss many packages!!
[12:32] <CPF_> Hmm...
[12:32] <tiger__it> ahhhhh
[12:33] <CPF_> What command(s) you use?
[12:33] <Adriano> where could I get an epiphany-browser version _with_ debugging symbols? I need it for bugzilla
[12:33] <tiger__it> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:33] <tiger__it> It was
[12:33] <Adriano> launchpad shows nothing
[12:33] <CPF_> Shouldn't it be apt-get?
[12:33] <tiger__it> the last two are the problem.... I guess
[12:33] <Adriano> neither does apt-cache search
[12:33] <tiger__it> Im using 6.1 rc Edgy
[12:34] <NantesThisNight> hi everybody
[12:34] <Alien> Some Help please with Samba3+LDAP
[12:34] <Alien> ?
[12:34] <Cube`srN> do u think it is a prob wif my cd?
[12:34] <tiger__it> CPF .... aptitude and apt-get are similars
[12:34] <NantesThisNight> wouaw there is a lot of people on this #irc
[12:34] <tiger__it> CPF .... aptitude is better (theorically)
[12:34] <Alien> could be...
 could be my friend
[12:34] <Cube`srN> hey Alien
[12:34] <CPF_> Hmm, didn't know about that...
[12:34] <theplatypus> yeah the channel is too busy to be of much help
[12:35] <Cube`srN> my get stuck @ Creating LIvE CD ACCOunt
[12:35] <Cube`srN> or something
[12:35] <NantesThisNight> Can i have some help for a problme of connexion ?
[12:35] <tiger__it> CPF ... ok.... thanks IDEM
[12:35] <CPF_> Well, I runned your command (but with apt-get), and it doesn't do a thing here :)
[12:35] <HymnToLife> well, aptitude is better only at managing dependencies
[12:35] <HymnToLife> but most of the time, you just want to install your stuff, not remove it ;)
 hey just go to www.ubuntu.com and then go to download
[12:35] <tiger__it> CPF I will try using aptitude
 search for alternate
 and download
[12:36] <tiger__it> CPF With  synaptic: no problem
[12:36] <Alien> or www.kubuntu.org
[12:36] <NantesThisNight> Is there somebody to help me, i have a problem with the ethernet connexion on an imac G3
[12:37] <TC`> !flash
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:37] <Alien> what kind of problem>?
 what kind of problem?
[12:37] <CPF_> tiger__it: Update works perfectly here, aptitude also, so, I don't know what you do wrong...
[12:37] <CPF_> Are you sure it is not an update, so it needs to be removed first, and then renstalled?
[12:38] <NantesThisNight> it just don't work, on my imacG5 in work simply, i just do nothing, but with the old imac, it sucks
[12:38] <TC`> !falsh-sound
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about falsh-sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <TC`> !flash-sound
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <TC`> !sound
[12:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:38] <Alien> do u have static IP configuration or DHCP???
 do u have static IP configuration or DHCP???
[12:39] <augustin> what do I need to install GTK+-2.8 ?
[12:39] <augustin> what should I type into console, which packet?
[12:39] <NantesThisNight> DHCP
 try ifdown eth0
[12:40] <NantesThisNight> it work like that usually
 then edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:40] <augustin> !gtk
[12:40] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
 then change dhcp with static
[12:40] <TMM> does anyone here know of a command which can tell me the throughput of a network interface on the command line? or will I just have to use snmp?
[12:40] <TMM> I just want to know it now, I don't want to monitor anything
 something like this:
 iface inet eth0 static
 address 10.10.0.x
[12:41] <JoshuaW> Hello :P
[12:41] <NantesThisNight> ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
 netmask 255.255.x.x
[12:42] <terrox> hrm how do I make sound work if I have two sound cards and its using the wrong one?
[12:42] <Alien> is really clear
[12:42] <JoshuaW> I'm having problems getting Ubuntu to work with my wireless adapter :P
[12:42] <Alien> are u like root user?
[12:42] <NantesThisNight> not, how can i have root statut inside ?
[12:43] <Alien> sudo -s
[12:43] <Alien> then enter the password of ur current user
[12:43] <NantesThisNight> obviously
[12:43] <Alien> passwd root
[12:43] <rage-> I have some libs that got installed to /usr/share/lib that aren't being seen by the application that needs them -- how can I fix this?
[12:43] <Alien> to set a password to root
[12:44] <Jesus> I need help with my chroot that crached in my edgy upgrade! On what channel can I get some help? here?
[12:44] <liwi> i suggest that games in add/remove should be grouped
[12:45] <NantesThisNight> thanks alien, i look again ... but i'm obliged to diconnect this computer to connect the other ...
[12:45] <NantesThisNight> lol
[12:45] <NantesThisNight> i'll be back
[12:45] <augustin> how can I upgrade my gtk? I need 2.4
[12:46] <crimsun> augustin: you have > gtk 2.4.
[12:46] <crimsun> even warty shipped with gtk 2.4.10
[12:46] <crimsun> and that was two years ago
[12:47] <augustin> nextcrimsun: I have xubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <Jesus> What does the error: "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" mean?
[12:47] <augustin> crimsun: I have xubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <crimsun> which has gtk 2.8.17
[12:47] <Jesus> I need help with my chroot that crached in my edgy upgrade! On what channel can I get some help? here?
[12:47] <Jesus> What does the error: "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" mean?
[12:47] <augustin> crimsun: I wanted to install http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[12:48] <augustin> this skin
[12:48] <tiger__it> CPF using apt-get instead of aptitude: Great solution!! works!!
[12:48] <crimsun> augustin: there's a deb for 6.06
[12:49] <alitis4> how i can configure my microphone?
[12:49] <rage-> I have some libs that got installed to /usr/share/lib that aren't being seen by the application that needs them -- how can I fix this?
[12:49] <augustin> crimsun when I run the configure script, I get  GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
[12:50] <augustin> configure error
[12:50] <Xk2c> augustin: http://southernvaleslug.org/ubuntu/dapper-drake/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.21-1_i386.deb
[12:50] <Xk2c> augustin: for dapper
[12:51] <augustin> Xk2c: how can I install this?
[12:51] <cuatr0s0s> just do it
[12:51] <crimsun> augustin: just click the URL.
[12:51] <Xk2c> augustin: dpkg -i /path/to/downoaded/file
[12:52] <augustin> well it's easy:)
[12:52] <BooBar> dpkg -i http://southernvaleslug.org/ubuntu/dapper-drake/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.21-1_i386.deb
[12:52] <Jesus> I need help with my chroot that crached in my edgy upgrade! On what channel can I get some help? here?
[12:52] <Jesus> What does the error: "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" mean?
[12:53] <Kawaii-Panda> Jesus: it means the interface E:locale's facet cannot create a c local name
[12:53] <Kawaii-Panda> because it is not valid :)
[12:53] <Xk2c> hehe
[12:53] <Xk2c> sorry
[12:53] <Kawaii-Panda> thats not a joke really, its true.
[12:54] <amayera> hi
 well... I got that, but how can I fix it?
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> it can be solved by changing the locale in the gdm menu
[12:54] <kike> Hello; anyone know how to remove an archive that never was at .trash when I push "del" key over it archive? I delete that as nautilus-root-script Thank You! (sorry bad english)
[12:54] <hume> I get errors during upgrade to edgy, from perl, that LC_ALL is not set - is it in /etc/environemt it is to be set?
[12:54] <augustin> crimsun Xk2c: I still got
[12:54] <Jesus> I don't use the gdm-menu-stuff
[12:54] <Xk2c> Kawaii-Panda: i know, but somehow it still funny
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> try using English(US) in my experience, it works with almost everything
[12:54] <augustin> checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
[12:54] <augustin> checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile murrine
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> Jesus: the screen where you log in.
[12:54] <amayera> I have a problem with firefox: when I try to start the latest version in edgy (and the old ones too) I get the following error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 \n Major opcode:  148 \n ... \n Failed to open device
[12:54] <crimsun> augustin: you don't need to compile it. You just installed the binary.
[12:54] <Kawaii-Panda> theres an option box over there.
[12:55] <amayera> anybody else experiencing these problems?
[12:55] <augustin> crimsun: do I need to log out and log in ?
[12:55] <giskard> hey, do you know if there is something like reason for linux/ubuntu?
[12:55] <syock> hoyo
 yes... but I would prefer not to use gnome.
[12:55] <alitis4> i can't use my microphone... why?
 do I have to?
[12:55] <BooBar> gis rosegarden
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> no, you dont have to use gnome
[12:56] <cahoot> rage-: got an /etc/ld.so.conf.d ?
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> just change the locale, i.e. language
[12:56] <syock> why does synaptic tell me to remove ubuntu-desktop if i want to remove gnome-games
[12:56] <rage-> cahoot, nope
[12:56] <TMM> hum... 'nload' that's nice
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> in a default installation its in the gdm's options->language menu.
[12:56] <hume> syock, its a dummy package that points to gnome-games
[12:56] <crimsun> augustin: no, just download a murrina and drop it into ~/.themes/, then choose it in Settings> User Interface Settings
 How do I know which language that is right?
[12:57] <hume> syock, no problems removing it
[12:57] <BooBar> giskard: reason
[12:57] <Kawaii-Panda> try them all. or you could just use English(US), since it works on almost everything.
[12:57] <sharperguy> Ok, I've been having quite a bit of trouble since i installed and activated nvidia-glx, Failure to initialise HAL, Youtube (flash 9b) getting stuck (like a cd), and GDM not reconising the human background and defaulting to a different theme (its just a png man)
[12:57] <giskard> BooBar: there is a linux version?
[12:57] <boguh> can every user i create get root previliges with its password or is there a way to restrict it?
[12:57] <marcin_ant> n1gke: any success?
[12:57] <Kawaii-Panda> i know because i have that error too when i use my own language in the past ( i.e. Tagalog (Philippines) )
[12:57] <syock> hume: so like i can remove at-spi and it won`t affect openoffice.org-gnome?
[12:57] <cahoot> rage-: missing some devpkg? I'm just one day into ubuntu but both ld.so.conf and the ld.so.conf.d exists here
[12:57] <BooBar> run it in wine
[12:58] <rage-> hrm I dunno
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8, is the one im using
[12:58] <hume> syock, dont know about at-spi, if it says its a dummy package it is no risk
[12:58] <rage-> did you install any pacuages manually?
[12:58] <rage-> packages*
[12:58] <cahoot> rage-: via pkg manager
[12:59] <n1gke> marcin_ant, please again the model number. I got busy helping my son.
[12:59] <cahoot> rage-: libtool? (my guess)
[01:00] <Kawaii-Panda> hm... probably a different problem. probably on the library...
[01:00] <fnf> Hi, anyone has any info on configuring Edgy's upstart ?. I've tried looking at the Wiki pages and Googled (not excessively though) but couldn't find an answer yet.
[01:00] <marcin_ant> n1gke: label on this mouse says that it's Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse, but it's identical with Cordless Click! Plus
[01:00] <crimsun> fnf: ...configuring?
[01:00] <fnf> crimsun: Yes, just like the good ol' /etc/inittab ?
[01:01] <n1gke> marcin_ant, okay. Let me look again. Thanks.....
[01:01] <syock> Yay i managed to crash XChat while uninstalling gnome-games. Argh, what`s with this spell-checking thing!!!
[01:01] <Nyto-RJ> Edgy clock problem ( canot change the clock with right-click and then Adjust Time/date) its open the bug report thing)!!!
[01:01] <fnf> !upstart
[01:01] <crimsun> fnf: /usr/share/doc/upstart/README.Debian.gz
[01:01] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[01:01] <Kleggas> Hi. I have an Acer laptop with ALC883 sound chipset (HD SB ATI) which were supposed to be fixed in edgy with alsa 1.0.13. I had sound in dapper but my mic and front did not work, and in edgy it works after a fresh install untill I install fglrx drivers, then Im back on crappy dapper functionality. Has anyone ever made this work in edgy with fglrx, or is there any other distro which can handle both my soundcard and fglrx in a good way?
[01:01] <lupine_85> fnf: no :D, but you could look at the upstsart-sysvinit package (IIRC) - it presumably contains scripts to make upstart act like sysvinit, so you could probably learn a lot from it
[01:01] <kike> hello, I press "del" on an archive but is yet in my HD and i dont know how to delete it (is not at .trash!) thank you :)
[01:02] <marcin_ant> n1gke: I reconfigured xorg and everything work except side scrolling
[01:02] <fnf> crimsun: Thanks, will look at at right now, and thanks to ubotu ;) .
[01:02] <crimsun> Kleggas: I've already committed fixes for the realtek issues; they should be in an upcoming errata kernel (no ETA).
[01:03] <n1gke> marcin_ant, ok. Look on the bottom for an LX # please.
[01:03] <syock> I happen to have this bad habit of removing unwanted things even though i know they`re harmless. It`s the result of using windows for years
[01:03] <Kleggas> crimsun: so I will be able to have both mic/front AND fglrx? It will not default back to OSS drivers as soon as fglrx is present on the system?
[01:03] <n1gke> marcin_ant, like I said before, perhaps XORG hasn't caught up to this type of mouse yet also.
[01:03] <Nyto-RJ> Can someone try to change the date on Edgy's
[01:03] <Nyto-RJ> see if its open the bug report!!!
[01:03] <crimsun> Kleggas: I can't speak for your particular issue, as I can't test against fglrx
[01:03] <marcin_ant> n1gke: there is no LX # on it's bottom
[01:04] <n1gke> ok
[01:04] <n1gke> hmmm
[01:04] <Kleggas> crimsun: ok. will have to test when it is out
[01:05] <n1gke> marcin_ant, this stinks. Sorry, the product or page you're trying to view is not available in your location. Please browse the rest of our site to learn about other products, company information, and more.
[01:05] <abo> hi, I upgraded yesterday night to Edgy, now I can't see the BBC and other news sites' videos, can you help?
[01:05] <Lobosque> guys, i can write in a FAT32 HD in linux?
[01:05] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I have a good picture of the mouse, but can't get info from Logitech.... grrrrrrr
[01:05] <lupine_85> Lobosque: yes
[01:05] <Ignatius> Lobosque: AFAIK
[01:05] <Kleggas> Lobosque: yes
[01:05] <abo> is there a page with FAQ about web embeded video streams?
[01:06] <abo> Lobosque, yes you can
[01:06] <marcin_ant> n1gke: maybe because it's "oem" mouse
[01:06] <Lobosque> ok, thanks guys
[01:06] <gnomefreak> abo: is it flash? is it real video?
[01:06] <marcin_ant> n1gke: btw where are you - I mean what location?
[01:06] <abo> gnomefreak, I know bbc is real video
[01:06] <gnomefreak> can i have link
[01:06] <abo> gnomefreak, I believe others include flash
[01:07] <zetotof> re
[01:08] <tiger> TigTigger:  R U SiberianTiger ?
[01:08] <wozznik> hi
[01:09] <m6s> has anyone HP1100 and 6.06 ?
[01:09] <tiger_it> TigTigger:  R U SiberianTiger ? eh ?
[01:09] <m6s> I found my printer manually, and I print garbage....
[01:10] <m6s> in google, I find nothing relevant
[01:10] <m6s> any help?
[01:10] <kike> how to search an lost archive that did not pass over the trash after delete it (now this archive is yet on my HD and i want to delete it!)
[01:10] <Lobosque> guys, when i try to install nvidia drives, it says that i must kill the X server... so how do i do it?
[01:10] <SiberianTiger> tiger_it, pm
[01:11] <Kleggas> Lobosque: ctrl+alt+backspace is one way
[01:11] <rage-> does anyone know what package will yield the ld.conf folders/files?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> kike: what is it?
[01:11] <syock> kike: what does that mean?
[01:11] <Kleggas> loboto restart it, if you want to kill X and go to console you could justrun: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:11] <tiger_it> SiberianTiger: sorry for your nick :)
[01:11] <SiberianTiger> Ok but just remember it
[01:11] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I have both wireless mouse and keyboard also, and have a heck of a time trying to configure them for Ubuntu v6.06 LTS also.
[01:12] <kike> i dont know, just press del over the archive ....
[01:12] <cafuego> rage-: libc6
[01:12] <tiger_it> SiberianTiger: yeah ....
[01:12] <gnomefreak> tiger_it: please stay on topic
[01:12] <rudiz> after upgraden tot edgy, i stille have the progressbar of dapper. how to change it?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> kike: what archive?
[01:12] <Tiger> gnomefreak, bye
[01:12] <kike> a backup
[01:12] <tiger_it> gnomefreak:  soorry
[01:12] <kike> backup.tgz
[01:12] <TMM> rudiz: did you follow the instructions on the wiki? it sounds like your upgrade wasn't complete
[01:12] <kike> that i made
[01:12] <gnomefreak> kike: where is it?
[01:12] <Sarkie> Hi, is there anyway I can download all the packages for ubuntu, on a windows machine, put them onto a cd, and use them with ubuntu?
[01:12] <kike> in /
[01:13] <rudiz> TMM i have some holdbacks in synaptic
[01:13] <marcin_ant> n1gke: well keyboard is another story - but I don't use special "multimedia" keys too often
[01:13] <rudiz> doe i van to update them
[01:13] <appleseed> hello there people ...
[01:13] <TMM> rudiz: well, are you comfortable using the command-line?
[01:13] <n1gke> marcin_ant, likewise.
[01:13] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive was in /
[01:13] <n1gke> Hello appleseed.
[01:13] <appleseed> apokryphos: thnx mate ... u really saved me the other day ;)
[01:13] <rudiz> TMM yep
[01:13] <gnomefreak> kike: open terminal and type rm name.tar.gz
[01:13] <apokryphos> np =)
[01:14] <TMM> rudiz: very well, do this: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:14] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive is not in my hd0 but is still ocuping space o.O
[01:14] <rage-> cafuego, is there any reason why I wouldn't have /etc/ld.so.conf* files/folders? that package is being reported as being installed and I surely haven't deleted those files
[01:14] <appleseed> I have a question for you nice people here ... I plan on buying this Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200 Laser product. However, I searched for Linux support on Logitech forums too but no where to be found
[01:14] <JosefK> anyone here tried installing both manpages-posix and manpages-posix-reference ?
[01:14] <cafuego> rage-: They're not really essential; the default library paths are hardcoded into the linker.
[01:14] <appleseed> Is it possible for anyone to help me on this or should I avoid this buy? :p
[01:14] <gnomefreak> kike: is it in /var/cache? is there where its occupy the space?
[01:14] <rudiz> TMM i will try it,thnx
[01:15] <Arjen> Hi. I'm having trouble with my LAN connection under Ubuntu. It doesn't seem to get an IP address from the DHCP server. Where do I start to fix this problem?
[01:15] <tiger_it> gnomefreak:  I think the file kike is looking was move
[01:15] <cafuego> rage-: You cna get 'em abck though; sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss <libc6 deb file>
[01:15] <kike> gnomefreak, im going to see it, one moment thanks
[01:15] <cafuego> rage-: do NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE install the wrong libc6 package.
[01:15] <JosefK> sorry, glibc-doc and glibc-doc-reference, dpkg throws a fit when I try it (one seems to overwrite files from the other)
[01:15] <TMM> rudiz: np, after it completes, make sure to run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard again, then run sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; then reboot
[01:15] <rage-> cafuego, well the root of my problem is that I have a program that I've compiled manually that installed some libs to /usr/share/lib/ and they're not being found by the program at run time
[01:16] <gnomefreak> TMM: ubuntu-desktop is all that is needed it should install the others
[01:16] <rage-> like a path problem or something
[01:16] <Sarkie> Hi, is there anyway I can download all the packages for ubuntu, on a windows machine, put them onto a cd, and use them with ubuntu? or specifically those to do with Wireless tools?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <TMM> gnomefreak: I was not aware, thanks :)
[01:17] <TMM> gnomefreak: that'll save some typing ;
[01:17] <TMM> ;)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:17] <appleseed> I guess no one can help me right now on this Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200 Laser, eh?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> laser what?
[01:17] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive is not there, /var/cache :( I look for with internal search and nothing
[01:17] <cafuego> rage-: Just add '/usr/share/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf and run 'sudo ldconfig'
[01:18] <giftnudel> appleseed: Is there a good reason why you want exactly this mouse?
[01:18] <appleseed> it is a keyboard/mouse combo from logitech
[01:18] <Sarkie> gnomefreak How do I install deb packagename.deb ?
[01:18] <cafuego> rage-: Incidentally, if you're going to manually install stuff, have a look at 'checkinstall'.
[01:18] <kike> tiger_it, i dont know where the archive was (vamos que no lo encuentro :P)
[01:18] <giftnudel> appleseed: Does it have a lot of special keys?
[01:18] <appleseed> let me saw you : "...batteries can last up to 15 months for the keyboard and up to 6 months for the mouse..."
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:18] <appleseed> show*
[01:18] <Sarkie> tah
[01:18] <rage-> cafuego, I have no /etc/ld.so.conf
[01:18] <rage-> is this normal?
[01:18] <appleseed> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,crid=2162,contentid=12130 from here :)
[01:19] <cafuego> rage-: Just create it, it's a text file.
[01:19] <rage-> I'll just create it if so, but I find it odd
[01:19] <giftnudel> appleseed: the basic functionality such as pointing or writing should really be supported
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: or if on dapper or edgy just double click it
[01:19] <giftnudel> appleseed: the special keys might not, however
[01:19] <Sarkie> gnomefreak: Do you know the best pacakges for Wireless connection, I cant seem to get an IP address with it using the one in Edgy
[01:19] <appleseed> what about the power management you think it will be the same? :/
[01:19] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but to be honest it sucks that ubuntu (and other linux distros) has so poor support for such basic peripherials as keyboard and mouse... ;/
[01:19] <gnomefreak> kike: i suggest running in terminal locate packge.tar.gz to find out where it is being left
[01:19] <marcin_ant> n1gke: it can really destroy first impression...
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: no i dont use wireless but ndiswrapper would be my first guess
[01:21] <kike> gnomefreak, im just doing it, i hope we find them! :D
[01:21] <Sarkie> gnomefreak  It's found the driver!! it seems to be working, just need to find my wireless hub, and such, and get dhcp working!
[01:21] <highneko> whiptail is making my cpu 100%. If you use edgy try top. How can I remove this whiptail thing?
[01:21] <n1gke> marcin_ant, it takes a while to catch up to the latest and greatest really.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> !wireless > Sarkie
[01:21] <highneko> I had to do a sudo killall wihptail
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Sarkie: would start there see if it helps
[01:21] <Sarkie> !wireless
[01:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:21] <Sarkie> Tried it :)
[01:21] <rage-> cafuego, thanks for the help, that looks to be all for now
[01:21] <appleseed> n1gke:  u mean that at some point I may install Ubuntu 7 and function as well as under Vista? :/
[01:22] <giftnudel> appleseed: Honestly, I think so, yes, but I can unfortunately not guarantee you
[01:22] <n1gke> marcin_ant, as each version of any Linux software arrives, they add more and more stuff.
[01:22] <rage-> cafuego, also, thanks for the checkinstall tip
[01:22] <cafuego> np
[01:22] <Sethwm2> ello I am running the PPC version of 6.10 and I am having problems finding the PPC version of plugins
[01:22] <Sethwm2> such as
[01:22] <Pensacola> how to setup firefox so it uses backspace for previous page?
[01:22] <Sethwm2> Flash
[01:22] <marcin_ant> n1gke: but there is some hope ;) https://launchpad.net/bounties/mouse-horizontal-scrolling
[01:22] <n1gke> marcin_ant, like 'any' software, it takes time to catch up.
[01:22] <cafuego> Sethwm2: There is so such thing.
[01:22] <cafuego> no such thing, even
[01:22] <n1gke> Oh yeh...
[01:22] <Sethwm2> What do you mean?
[01:22] <appleseed> ok thanks nice people :D
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Sethwm2: there is not flash for 64bit nor ppc
[01:23] <cafuego> Sethwm2: there is no powerpc flash plugin (or java) (or video)
[01:23] <Sethwm2> So
[01:23] <Sethwm2> I am screwed?
[01:23] <appleseed> cu around ... I will go back on my Ubuntu 6.10 to "play" with it :D
[01:23] <n1gke> I have four computers using Ubuntu. The most difficult was to make the wireless keyboard and wireless mouse work, but I managed.
[01:23] <cafuego> Email Adobe and ask them why there isn't one.
[01:23] <jo_e> hi. i have just upgraded to edgy and now xine plays everything really choppy. other media players work fine. what could be causing this?
[01:23] <cafuego> Actually, there is a java one these days... IBM have a plugin with their JRE.
[01:23] <gnomefreak> cafuego: too expensive to build other archs
[01:24] <gnomefreak> thats my guess
[01:24] <kike> gnomefreak, the archive left is not find by $locate backup.tar.gz
[01:24] <kike> :(
[01:24] <gnomefreak> kike: what makes you think its still on your system?
[01:24] <cafuego> gnomefreak: TThey don't seem to have problems with an OSX one.
[01:24] <Sethwm2> This sucks...
[01:24] <Xk2c> kike: sudo updatedb
[01:24] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Maybe the Linux one is too much of a horrible kludge.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> true
[01:24] <orion_> !nvidia
[01:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:24] <Sethwm2> Do you think that future updates of Ubuntu will have it?
[01:24] <Sethwm2> Or the Support
[01:24] <Sethwm2> ?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Sethwm2: its not ubuntu its adobe
[01:25] <cafuego> Sethwm2: There is 'gplflash', which may or may not work..
[01:25] <kike> gnomefreak, because i've 9gb free before this archive left, now ib 400mb of free space
[01:25] <kike> Xk2c, what this command do?
[01:25] <Sethwm2> is that in the portage?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> kike: did you refresh the window?
[01:25] <kike> i restart the computer too
[01:25] <kike> :D
[01:25] <cafuego> There is no portage, did you mean repositories? ;-)
[01:25] <Xk2c> kike: it will rebuild your "locate" database
[01:25] <Sethwm2> YEah
[01:25] <Sethwm2> sorry
[01:25] <kike> Xk2c, thanks, i try to do this
[01:26] <cafuego> hold on
[01:26] <cafuego> (it's been a while since I ran ppc linux_
[01:26] <Sethwm2> OK
[01:26] <Sethwm2> thx
[01:26] <n1gke> marcin_ant, I'll be back later. I am going to try once more to install the wireless keyboard and mouse and network card in this Ubuntu computer.....
[01:26] <Xk2c> kike: nope ;)
[01:26] <Code-E> Hi im trying to install cube 2 and when i do im just getting error: ./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[01:27] <Code-E> Is there a way to get around this? it is water edition i am installing
[01:27] <gnomefreak> kike: look for the files that you made the tar.gz maybe they are still there?
[01:27] <cafuego> Sethwm2: Have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[01:27] <Sethwm2> thanks
[01:28] <Code-E> ???
[01:28] <cafuego> Note, it's alpha software
[01:28] <gnomefreak> eh i hear thats just like gplflash (works when it wants to)
[01:28] <syock> help I`m experiencing so many disk ops over the last minute it`s so unnatural
[01:28] <Sethwm2> OK
[01:28] <Sethwm2> Thanks
[01:28] <gnomefreak> but a stable/working flash plugin for ppc is not gonna be found for a while i feel
[01:28] <kike> gnomefreak, the files are impossible to find with locate, find, or with the internal search of ubuntu
[01:28] <cafuego> ... this is why my wife swapped her mac mini for a beige pc
[01:29] <kike> Xk2c, the update dont resolve the problem
[01:29] <gnomefreak> kike: did you try find file
[01:29] <gnomefreak> kike: what did you use to back it up?
[01:30] <Sethwm2> I am looking on the FTP
[01:30] <Sethwm2> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/
[01:30] <Code-E> Can nobody help me?
[01:30] <Sethwm2> And I don't know what to pick
[01:30] <Code-E> omg
[01:30] <Sethwm2> ?
[01:30] <Sethwm2> :(
[01:31] <Raskall> any known issues with edgy?
[01:31] <kike> gnomefreak, i try to find with /$locate backup.tar.gz u say to me, and too with the internal search of ubuntu on "/"
[01:31] <Kawaii-Panda> Raskall: aside from usplash not working, i havent heard any other problems with edgy
[01:31] <Kawaii-Panda> my usplash works fine though
[01:32] <Raskall> Kawaii-Panda: ok.. but the usplash doesn't prevent grub from loading?
[01:32] <atk> Hi. What are the possible reasons why I don't hear a terminal bell? I have enabled system beep.
[01:32] <Kawaii-Panda> Raskall: no grub comes before usplash.
[01:32] <Rothguard> Go to the source directory and run 'make distclean' and 'make'.  WTF DOES THAT MEAN  P.S. im a total noob so send me the answer in pm if your in a helping mood
[01:32] <blisz> hello
[01:32] <Code-E> !gay
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <ricanelite> Hello, Is there a new Firefox out?
[01:33] <Sethwm2> YEs
[01:33] <Kawaii-Panda> atk: probably youre system spekear is not connected or nonexistent
[01:33] <Sethwm2> 2.0
[01:33] <Tompu> atk: are you asking for a system beep from gnome terminals?
[01:33] <ricanelite> how can i get it?
[01:33] <bartek> hello  some one speak polish???
[01:33] <atk> Tompu: yes
[01:33] <Sethwm2> firefox.com
[01:33] <atk> Kawaii-Panda: it beeps on every boot in bios so it's working
[01:33] <Kawaii-Panda> getfirefox.com
[01:33] <Ignatius> bartek: #ubuntu.pl ?
[01:33] <Tompu> atk: do you have multiple soundcards?
[01:33] <Sethwm2> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[01:33] <Xk2c> kike:  $locate backup
[01:33] <gsuveg> xgl setup within edgy how long ?
[01:33] <kike> gnomefreak, now im trying with $find / backup.tgz (thanks to tiger_it )
[01:33] <atk> Tompu: negative. I'm using hp nx 6110
[01:33] <bartek> heh it not work ;/
[01:33] <Kawaii-Panda> its on in system->sounds?
[01:33] <bartek> #ubuntu.pl
[01:33] <ricanelite> was it suppose to be in the new edgy download?
[01:33] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that?
[01:33] <Xk2c> kike: if it does not find it, its not there
[01:34] <Sethwm2> It was..
[01:34] <Sethwm2> Go to about
[01:34] <Sethwm2> In Firefox
[01:34] <Sethwm2> 2.0
[01:34] <bartek> LOL Cannot join #ubuntu-pl (You are banned). xD
[01:34] <bartek> wtft
[01:34] <ricanelite> because i got the new edgy but when i check about on Firefox it says 1.5
[01:34] <ricanelite> but i know for a fact i installed edgy
[01:34] <Tompu> atk: is the terminal bell enabled in your gnome terminal profile?
[01:34] <Sethwm2> Then just download 2.0 and install
[01:34] <Toaster54> Hey
[01:34] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? please help me
[01:34] <atk> Tompu: it is
[01:34] <Toaster54> Could someone please tell me why my firefox 2.0 is always crashing on ubuntu (edgy) ?
[01:35] <atk> Tompu: I do get visual bell
[01:35] <ricanelite> okay, now my thing is im new to linux so how can i install firefox
[01:35] <syock> I wish I knew what was running on the background. My disk was acting so erratically
[01:35] <marco_> no su azzurra
[01:35] <Tompu> atk: final question, does your system beep during the POST test at startup?
[01:35] <ricanelite> i have it downloaded to my desktop which is firefox-2.0.tar.gz
[01:35] <bartek> omg i will kil my bro for thah I'm bane in bubntu.pl grrr
[01:35] <Raskall> hmm.. should I dist-upgrade my server? last time I got a hell with the init-files for postfix
[01:35] <bartek> any way thc and cya
[01:35] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? help please
[01:35] <Sethwm2> Untar it to the desktop
[01:35] <atk> Tompu: it beeps when asking a boot up password so i'd assume that is during the POST test
[01:36] <Sethwm2> then change the directory to the folder that un tared
[01:36] <kike> gnomefreak,
[01:36] <kike> kike@kike-laptop:/$ sudo find / -name 'backup.tgz' -print
[01:36] <kike> /root/.Trash/backup.tgz
[01:36] <Sethwm2> in the terminal
[01:36] <kike> thank you erUSUL
[01:36] <Sethwm2> and then the install command
[01:36] <TankEnMate> here's a tricky question, i recently disconnected my keyboard by accident, when i reconnected it udev didn't recreate the device.. and I can't see why not. i had to reconnect the device by hand using mknod
[01:36] <Tompu> atk: thats good enough :). can you double click your volume icon and open the 'advanced' volume properties
[01:37] <Khamael> does ext3 ever need a "defrag"?
[01:37] <TankEnMate> the device appears in /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1
[01:37] <Tompu> atk: edit/preferences and see if your system speaker has a volume control
[01:37] <TankEnMate> is it the i8042 driver not sending an add event to hotplug?
[01:37] <kike> gnomefreak, thanks for your patiente, :*****
[01:37] <kike> i made it!
[01:37] <kike> :D
[01:37] <Tompu> atk: mine is called 'PC Speaker'
[01:38] <atk> Tompu: There's no such thing
[01:38] <Toaster54> Could someone please tell me why my firefox 2.0 is always crashing on ubuntu (edgy)  and how do i downgrade firefox again?
[01:38] <Xk2c> Toaster54: how many plugins?
[01:38] <Toaster54> 3
[01:38] <TankEnMate> Toaster: have you got the nonfree-flashplugon on your machine?
[01:39] <TankEnMate> plugin even?
[01:39] <Toaster54> yea
[01:39] <Xk2c> Toaster54: which?
[01:39] <Toaster54> wait a minute
[01:39] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? help please
[01:39] <Sethwm2> You must not use it much if you forgot the name
[01:39] <Sethwm2> lol
[01:39] <Sethwm2> :-D
[01:39] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, gksudo gedit /usr/bin/firefox
[01:39] <Webspot> Could anyone tell me an app that would be able to go through all of my music files and normalize them?
[01:39] <abo> when I'm starting eclipse, it's taking 99%of the cpu even after it finishes loading and is not supposed to be doing anything, any new bugs reported?
[01:39] <Xk2c> Toaster54: try this  $ firefox -ProfileManager
[01:39] <Xk2c> Toaster54: there create a clean profile
[01:39] <Toaster54> adblock plus, filterset updater for it, fireftp,  session manager and mr tech local install
[01:39] <Tompu> atk: running out of ideas here. open a terminal and run alsamixer
[01:40] <atk> Tompu: Couldn't find it there either
[01:40] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, then just before the exec at the bottom line add this "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1"
[01:40] <Xk2c> Toaster54: then use it with: $ firefox -P PROFILENAME
[01:40] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, you may find that might fix the problem
[01:40] <blisz> my gnome toolbar is gone :S how can i fix that? help please!
[01:40] <Xk2c> Toaster54: and check if it still chrashes
[01:40] <leafw> is there any way to disable the wifi card, to save battery power?
[01:40] <atk> Tompu: I'm puzzled too. I even made new user that has audio permissions so that old settings wouldn't bother but it didn't work
[01:40] <Toaster54> But i cant just throw away my profile, i would loose all passwords and cookies and so on
[01:41] <TankEnMate> blisz, toolbar? do you mean the panel at the top of the screen?
[01:41] <Zyfo> I got this while installing Tilda, I did install vte before: http://pastie.caboo.se/20129 What's wrong? :o
[01:41] <Toaster54> TankEnMate: how can i do that with the bottom line and exec and so on?
[01:41] <Xk2c> Toaster54: thats why we cretae a new one for testing
[01:41] <blisz> yes TankEnMate
[01:41] <Toaster54> ah ok
[01:41] <Tompu> atk: try running this:
[01:41] <Xk2c> Toaster54: your "old" profile will still be there
[01:41] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, gksudo gedit /usr/bin/firefox
[01:41] <Tompu> atk: lsmod | grep pcspkr
[01:41] <atk> Tompu: the module is loaded
[01:42] <TankEnMate> blisz, you need to add a panel.. is the bottom panel still there?
[01:42] <Tompu> atk: sounds like you're ahead of me here
[01:42] <blisz> TankEnMate: there is nothing
[01:42] <Toaster54> Ok ill try it with the new profile
[01:42] <blisz> im on a xgl session
[01:42] <atk> Tompu: heh. I did check that earlier and rechecked it now
[01:42] <TankEnMate> blisz, nothing on the bottom?
[01:42] <blisz> nothing
[01:43] <TankEnMate> blisz, right, in a shell type "ps aux | egrep panel"
[01:43] <blisz> cant open a shell
[01:43] <blisz> it was in the panel
[01:43] <blisz> :S
[01:44] <Tompu> atk: is the speaker represented by a /dev node?
[01:44] <blisz> ok
[01:44] <blisz> got a shell
[01:44] <TankEnMate> blisz, time to make a cutom launcher
[01:44] <TankEnMate> blisz, okies.. :)
[01:44] <Toaster54> Ok ill first try TankEnMates way
[01:44] <blisz> there is
[01:44] <blisz> 2 things
[01:44] <Khamael> what repo contains w32codecs?
[01:44] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, after you save your changes it will make a back up file of /usr/bin/firefox.. make sure you keep that safe :)
[01:45] <blisz> gnome-panel
[01:45] <TankEnMate> blisz, well the panel program is running, it would seem it just has lost its config for any panels..
[01:45] <blisz> what can i do?
[01:46] <Tompu> atk: im thinking you might have a permissions issue with the /dev node that represents it. i think it might be /dev/input/event1, but this is an unsubstantiated guess
[01:46] <Toaster54> Hmm ok, anyways its only one line, i could reverse that myself
[01:46] <atk> Tompu: in general or on my computer? I don't what it should be but I didn't any suitable candidates by grepping pc, spkr, speaker
[01:46] <TankEnMate> blisz, okies... this will give you back a default panel if there isn't any bugs at issue, is that ok?
[01:46] <blisz> ok
[01:46] <atk> Tompu: crw-rw----  1 root root 13,  65 2006-10-29 14:05 event1
[01:46] <sutur> hi, does anybody know news about the easyubuntu project? is there a a seperate version for edgy? http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ has been offline for several days now.
[01:46] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, ok.. if you do a google search on the environment variable you should see articles about it onthe web
[01:47] <atk> Tompu: does that sound it's ok?
[01:47] <TankEnMate> blisz, in a shell type the following..
[01:47] <Toaster54> Hmm ok, ill do that later
[01:47] <Tompu> atk: matches mine (which works)
[01:47] <tiger_it> Somone can explain me the diference between:  find path file -name 'file'  and   find path file -name file (without '') ????
[01:48] <buzzy> !jre
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <buzzy> !java
[01:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:48] <savvas> isn't it sun-java5-bin ?
[01:48] <salim> where can I set the minimum throttle for my cpu-frequency
[01:48] <Toaster54> Well, the Variable thing doesn't work.
[01:48] <TankEnMate> blisz, $ rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel ; cp -r /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/panel ~/.gconf/apps
[01:48] <Toaster54> It still crashes
[01:48] <atk> Tompu: oh well, I'll try harder searching the internet. Thanks for your help!
[01:48] <TankEnMate> blisz, then restart the gnome-panel process with kill -1
[01:49] <Toaster54> Now ill try Xk2cs way
[01:49] <erider> hi Toaster54
[01:49] <Toaster54> hi
[01:49] <NantesThisNight> hi again
[01:50] <CaTTiusha> hi all :)
[01:50] <JoshuaW> Hello :P
[01:50] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, its almost certainly somethign in your profile then..
[01:50] <Zyfo> I got this while installing Tilda, I did install vte before: http://pastie.caboo.se/20129 What's wrong? :o
[01:50] <dwango> Wow, I just killed firefox and Xorg's memory usage dropped from 450MB to 45MB
[01:50] <Toaster54> You mean, like the plugins?
[01:50] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, possibly..
[01:50] <TankEnMate> Toaster54, or possibly some cruft..
[01:50] <Tompu> atk: no worries. sorry we couldnt solve it
[01:50] <koraman> !!!! i need help about games in kubuntu 6.10 ... !!!!
[01:50] <TankEnMate> blisz, how you going?
[01:51] <blisz> bad
[01:51] <blisz> look the qery
[01:51] <TankEnMate> blisz, which query?
[01:51] <koraman> SLOVAKIA
[01:51] <Toaster54> umm a what?
[01:51] <TheColonial> guys, can someone please give me some advice on a SATA timeout issue please?
[01:51] <abo> everytime I upgrade an Ubuntu version, it's a headache to get the website's video to work, and everytime some that used to work, doesn't anymore
[01:51] <blisz> i opened one to you
[01:51] <abo> can anyone help me setting up BBC video (and other websites) please?
[01:51] <blisz> `/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/panel' doesnt exist
[01:51] <TankEnMate> oh my client didnt pick it up.. i'm using a client im not really familiar with..
[01:52] <Tompu> abo: i'd suggest automatix
[01:52] <TankEnMate> blisz, ahhh!! no wonder you have lost your panel then...
[01:52] <TankEnMate> blisz, thats not such a good thing..
[01:52] <abo> Tompu, just do, sudo automatix?
[01:52] <blisz> :/
[01:52] <blisz> why disappeared?
[01:52] <TankEnMate> umm yeah.. it should defenitely be there..
[01:53] <blisz> what can i do?
[01:53] <TankEnMate> blisz, you are using ubuntu and not kubuntu or xubuntu?
[01:53] <blisz> ubuntu
[01:53] <blisz> with xgl beryl
[01:53] <Tompu> abo: www.getautomatix.com
[01:53] <abo> Tompu, it says automatix does not work on Edgy
[01:53] <TankEnMate> blisz, i quick reinstall of a package should fix it.. hold on i'll find the right package for you...
[01:53] <alitis4> automatix rulez
[01:53] <atk> Tompu: I'm guessing the problem is quite low level, maybe even the hardware blocks it for some reason (I did check bios, there was no speaker on/off option). Kinda hard to solve this kind of problems.
[01:54] <blisz> thanks TankEnMate
[01:54] <Bogaurd> has anyone configure pure-ftpd under ubuntu?
[01:54] <blisz> i'll brb
[01:54] <Bogaurd> configured*
[01:54] <Tompu> abo: I used it today. It worked fine. The page is out of date. There are install instructions on the Install page
[01:55] <Tompu> atk: do you have windows installed on the same machine?
[01:55] <deadhobo> Anyone here have a Alienware 51-M or worked on one? I can't get X to work with the nvidia driver and I think I need to use modelines, but I don't know what they are...
[01:55] <atk> Tompu: hell no! ;)
[01:56] <Tompu> atk: well, thats good. but windows likes to talk through the system speaker if you disable all other sound devices, which is an occasionally useful way to test the system speaker is available for use
[01:56] <sharyari> elo
[01:56] <n1gke> marcin_ant, you still here ?
[01:56] <Tompu> atk: are you using a custom kernel?
[01:57] <sharyari> I just installed ati-drivers on a clean ubuntu-install, but now when I login with GDM, my system freezes after a few moments
[01:57] <psj> hello
[01:57] <david_> I'm trying to add a new partition into my fstab, this is what i put, /dev/hdb3	/media/hdb3	vfat	defaults	0	1, everything i've read says this should work, but it doesn't, can someone help?
[01:57] <atk> Tompu: standard ubuntu kernel
[01:57] <ufk3> hiya
[01:57] <TankEnMate> blisz, sorry about the delay.. slow disk.. you need to install gconf2-common
[01:58] <FRET> david_, are you sure about hdb3?
[01:58] <ufk3> is there a package for mplayer? or how can i view wmv movies?
[01:58] <psj> any have same problem when running glxinfo? 'libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b' i have matrox g550
[01:58] <FRET> david_, and have you created that folder in /media?
[01:58] <david_> yes, i looked at my pARTITION TABLE'
[01:58] <atk> Tompu: I don't have space on my hd to test install windows and even if I did, I'm too lazy to do install windows just for that reason.
[01:59] <david_> oh, i need to do that, i thought it automatically did that when it mounted
[01:59] <david_> slap me in the face with a wet fish
[01:59] <david_> I'll go try that
[01:59] <david_> hehe
[01:59] <TankEnMate> blisz, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gconf2-common
[02:00] <sharyari> he asked for it :)
[02:00] <Kawaii-Panda> hmm... wonder why i cannot motivate myself to read a linux ebook again...
[02:00] <Tompu> atk: it's a bit of an extreme 'fix'. i think the drawbacks vastly outweigh any advantages
[02:01] <TankEnMate> bbl
[02:01] <JosefK> anyone know how to prioritise plugins in firefox 2?  I'd rather realplayer picked up rtsp streams instead of having totem choke on them
[02:01] <Bogaurd> has anyone configured pure-ftpd under ubuntu?
[02:01] <hakrzcode> @FRET When david comes back, remind him about the users option in fstab, or he will be complaining about permissions
[02:02] <psj> anoney have same problem when running glxinfo? 'libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b' i have matrox g550?
[02:02] <jrib> JosefK: try 'touch'ing the realplayer plugin files in your plugin folder
[02:02] <FRET> hakrzcode, I'd not recommend the user option by default.
[02:03] <hakrzcode> Why not?
[02:03] <JosefK> jrib: hmm, they're in /usr/lib but the modified dates are far behind the totem ones, thanks
[02:03] <JosefK> jrib: impressive, thanks a lot :)
[02:03] <jrib> JosefK: np
[02:04] <LoliTa18> hi
[02:04] <syock> That`s not fair. I get to use SCIM in ooffice but not in firefox32. Why doesn`t that locale problem occur for ooffice?
[02:05] <_polto__> hello
[02:05] <_polto__> i write 10 cameras stream to a RAID5 (4 disks) on a bi-Xeon server. The problem is what loadavg is @ 10 and more. Normaly this type of recording make a loadavg of 0.6! kblockd is always up in top and eat 60% cpu time
[02:06] <Zyfo> I got this while installing Tilda, I did install vte before: http://pastie.caboo.se/20129 What's wrong? :o
[02:06] <pir4> i need repositorys for Ubuntu 6.10 (AMD64) , ive been trying to download things like w32codec and tuxracer without succeses. thx !
[02:06] <philwhln> afternoon. I have a question about wired / wireless. I'm using Network Manager and it appears I can only use either wireless or wired, but not both at the same time. Is this true?
[02:06] <augustin> I need automake 1.7 but when I install automake via apt-get install automake, there is just automake1.4 (1.4-p6-9)
[02:06] <augustin> !automake
[02:06] <thoreauputic> pir4: by definition, w32codecs won't work in 64 bit
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <hakrzcode> syock: What locale problem? Scim behaves quite nicely for me.
[02:06] <pir4> thoreauputic, wut ? u sure?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> pir4: they are *32 bit*
[02:07] <jrib> augustin: install the automake-1.7 package, there is up to 1.9 that I can see
[02:07] <pir4> thoreauputic, so how ppl with amd64 watch divx or wmv ?
[02:07] <syock> hakrzcode: Firefox running on linux32. I don`t have any other 32-bit app to test
[02:07] <augustin> jrib: so why apt-get install automake does not automatically install the newest version?
[02:07] <thoreauputic> pir4: I assume either they make a 32 bit chroot, or they don't watch them
[02:07] <jrib> augustin: there is no automake package
[02:08] <jrib> !info automake1.7
[02:08] <ubotu> automake1.7: A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.9-9 (edgy), package size 382 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[02:08] <hakrzcode> oic, you are 64bit?
[02:08] <phatmonkey> i want to compile a newer version of jackd from source, but the ubuntu version has loads of dependencies. what's the best way to do this? force removing the ubuntu packages ignoring the dependencies? installing the new version to a different path? installing the new version over the ubuntu version?
[02:08] <Khamael> is easyubuntu down?
[02:08] <justifier> yes
[02:08] <syock> yup. Okay, gyachi doesn`t support locale too
[02:08] <cherubiel> augustin: try apt-cache search automake; should list out the packages avaiable.. btw, are you on dapper?
[02:08] <augustin> cherubiel: yep
[02:09] <pir4> im trying to run armyops from his directory and im getting this : exec: 50: ./armyops-bin: not found ... any idea?
[02:09] <augustin> cherubiel: I've just installed 1.9 it's ok
[02:09] <cherubiel> good augustin
[02:10] <chrisbudden14> im using edgy, but i get no virtual terminal with ctrl-alt f1 ,f2 etc
[02:10] <cherubiel> pir4: you don't seem to have the binaries in the current folder
[02:10] <chrisbudden14> just a corrupt display
[02:10] <pir4> cherubiel, its a binary installer
[02:10] <pir4> cherubiel, that cant be :s thats the thing
[02:12] <david_> I got a new partition to mount, but i can't write to it as a normal user, this my fstab line /dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3 vfat defaults 0 1
[02:12] <david_> can someone help?
[02:12] <cherubiel> david_:  rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[02:12] <cherubiel> david_: repalce defaults with what i pasted
[02:12] <cherubiel> and mount again
[02:12] <abo> david_, if you do "ls -l /media | grep hdb3" what do you get
[02:13] <djuuss> pir4: type > sh army-ops.bin
[02:13] <hakrzcode> FRET: David is back, and he is having permissions problems.
[02:13] <david_> how do i know what to put for umask and gid and those things
[02:13] <cherubiel> david_: dude, use what i pasted.
[02:13] <hakrzcode> david: I would change defaults to defaults,user
[02:13] <david_> I looked on the internet but all i could find was a list off options
[02:13] <jrib> !vfat > david_
[02:14] <jrib> but what cherubiel said looks good david_
[02:14] <FRET> david_, use defaults,uid=<your user id>
[02:14] <Orta> Hello
[02:14] <FRET> hakrzcode, I think that this is much more safe
[02:14] <david_> ok, but i am new. i want learn what it means
[02:14] <cherubiel> david_: you should readup more; man mount
[02:14] <FRET> hakrzcode, defaults,uid=<your user id>
[02:14] <david_> ok
[02:15] <jrib> david_: the link ubotu sent you to should explain some basics, also type 'man fstab' in a terminal and I'll send you the fstab link to
[02:15] <jrib> !fstab > david_
[02:15] <hakrzcode> david: uid=david, or whatever your login name is, will give you ownership.
[02:15] <FRET> david_, it means that the partition is mounted with the permissions set to the user with the specified uid
[02:15] <deadhobo> I'm guessing that
[02:15] <Pensacola> is the installation of the nvidia drivers in edgy the same as in dapper?
[02:15] <jrib> ubotu: tell Pensacola about nvidia
[02:15] <FRET> david_, you can get it by typing "id" in a terminal
[02:15] <phiphi076> probleme de sources list
[02:16] <coz_> Pensacola, no not if you use the beta nvidia driver
[02:16] <hakrzcode> ok FRET, not dismissing. I usually only use vfats for sharing with windows.
[02:16] <FRET> david_, maybe read the mount manpage
[02:16] <deadhobo> "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X log file..." is bad
[02:16] <hakrzcode> but, then again, I got rid of that virus a year ago.
[02:16] <xroach> could someone help me with edgy problm
[02:16] <FRET> hakrzcode, :-)
[02:16] <coz_> xroach, I will try what is the problem
[02:16] <david_> wow thats a lot to read, ill be back in a while
[02:16] <Pensacola> i installed the nvidia-glx package and changed the driver from nv to nvidia in xorg.conf
[02:16] <cherubiel> !fr | phiphi076
[02:16] <ubotu> phiphi076: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:16] <Pensacola> is that right?
[02:16] <javaJake> Hello everyone. I'm using an ATI Radeon M6 LY card [Radeon 9000]  with direct rendering enabled, but the screen goes TV-scroll-like every so often.  When running the command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd" do I replace 'uname-r' with 2.6.15-27-386 if that is the kernel being used?
[02:17] <phiphi076> nueubi
[02:17] <cherubiel> theplatypus: the shell does that for you.
[02:17] <coz_> theplatypus, that would help
[02:17] <coz_> but yes that will done for you
[02:17] <hakrzcode> theplatypus: that is the replacement.
[02:17] <FRET> david_, you dont have to read everything, but have a look at the mount options
[02:18] <coz_> xroach, are you still there?
[02:18] <hakrzcode> gtg.. gf pulling my strings..
[02:18] <cherubiel> ;)
[02:18] <theplatypus> cherubiel : so it will be replaced automagically?
[02:18] <xroach> I had 6.06 installed in laptop then upgaded to edgy but it didnt succes ,so now im instlaling edgy from cd and it just gives me a black screen after the "ubuntu loading " thing, and the cd works and i've tried several cd,s
[02:18] <tobias> I'm having problems with alsa sound in my acer notebook... think alsa 1.0.13 solves.. anybody have the packages?
[02:18] <cherubiel> theplatypus: yes, try echo hello`uname -r`
[02:18] <Mulama> Hello, I have problem with LVM, i can't found what i do wrong:( there is log http://counting.xf.cz/id2964.html :(
[02:18] <deadhobo> I don't want to sound like an impatient jerk here, but am I silenced or is everyone just busy?
[02:18] <JoshuaW> BUsy
[02:19] <JoshuaW> Busy*
[02:19] <Zyfo> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-applications/23574-tilda.html <- I get the same error as the 2 guys there, any idea what the prob could be?
[02:19] <jrib> deadhobo: we can hear you, no one has noticed/no one knows how to help you
[02:19] <xroach> and i've tried with noapic nolapic acpi=off
[02:19] <coz_> xroach, you may want to recongifure the X11.xorg.conf file
[02:19] <javaJake> Mulama: I cannot help you, but I thought you should know your link doesn't work. :)
[02:19] <MaxPayne> ^^
[02:19] <marten_71> hello is there anyone that have tried compiz
[02:19] <Pensacola> hmh my fps are much lower than in dapper :s
[02:19] <deadhobo> JoshuaW: Thanks for responding :). I asked a question or two over the last day and nothing happened, just wanted to be sure I wasn't doing something wrong
[02:19] <javaJake> marten_71: And failed? yep.
[02:19] <javaJake> :D
[02:20] <esaym> hey when fdisk is forced to run due to an unclean unmount, where does it log info too?
[02:20] <marten_71> javajake to bad it looks cool
[02:20] <javaJake> marten_71: Well, you'd need 3D working first. Then goto UbuntuGuide.com
[02:20] <xroach> I had 6.06 installed in laptop then upgaded to edgy but it didnt succes ,so now im instlaling edgy from cd and it just gives me a black screen after the "ubuntu loading " thing, and the cd works and i've tried several cd,s
[02:20] <Tompu> marten_71: i used compiz on my gentoo machine for a few weeks before i switched to ubuntu
[02:20] <javaJake> marten_71: It only works with ATI or NVidia cards, I believe....
[02:21] <coz_> xroach, i am trying to pm you is your nic registered.?
[02:21] <Tompu> compiz is wildly overrated. it's fun for a little while, but its just so greedy with the cpu
[02:21] <javaJake> xroach: Have you checked the CD?
[02:21] <javaJake> xroach: Using the "Check the CD" menu?
[02:21] <coz_> Tompu then try beryl
[02:21] <xroach> coz_ no it isnt :(
[02:21] <killown> I load module sundance for my card network encore  but when I try ifconfig eth1 not found it  I have other card via rhine as eth0  how I do to load eth1?
[02:21] <coz_> xroach, ok well it will be difficult in here
[02:21] <bones> ....
[02:21] <coz_> xroach, do you know how to recongifure the xorg
[02:22] <xroach> coz_ whats the link for registering?
[02:22] <gnarlie> what a teeny channel
[02:22] <javaJake> I'm using an ATI Radeon M6 LY card [Radeon 9000]  with direct rendering enabled, but the screen goes TV-scroll-like every so often. Is there a way to debug or fix this?
[02:22] <marten_71> javajake and Tompu thanks
[02:22] <gnarlie> can one count on ntfsresize to work?
[02:22] <pir4> when i try to run army ops it give me this problem: #!/bin/sh
[02:22] <pir4> # description: Starts and stops America's Army Server
[02:22] <pir4> #
[02:22] <pir4> ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH="/usr/local/games/armyops/System/" ; (change to your dir)
[02:22] <pir4> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:${ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH}:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
[02:22] <javaJake> marten_71: NP
[02:22] <pir4> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH  anyone knows what is it ?
[02:22] <jrib> !paste | pir4
[02:22] <cherubiel> gnarlie: gparted
[02:22] <ubotu> pir4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:22] <javaJake> !paste | pir4
[02:22] <coz_> xroach, well as i remember it it is "/msg register" in here
[02:22] <gnarlie> cherubiel: hmm
[02:22] <javaJake> Oops... beat me to it
[02:22] <xroach> coz_ yes but how can i do it in the installing process?
[02:23] <MilanTux> hi all
[02:23] <gnarlie> cherubiel: is it on the ubuntu install iso?
[02:23] <Orta> Recently I installed 6.06. I updated to edgy, when doing that the computer crashed in the screensaver. When I turn the computer back on it said that Xserver  (or something like that) was broken and it gave me a broken black and white text login screen. I reinstalled 6.06 and when I ran the updater it crashed again. Now there is the computer and trash icons on the desktop and when I go to certain adminstration programs like Update manger an
[02:23] <Orta> d synaptic package manger it ethers gives me weird warnings and lets me use it or says I can't because I have another adminstartion program running (which I don't).
[02:23] <Orta> sorry for all that
[02:23] <coz_> xroach,  well if you are using the live cd then no you would have to use the alternative cd for that
[02:23] <coz_> xroach, but you can recongigure it now on the system that is not working
[02:23] <MedivhX> is there any problem to solve?
[02:23] <Pensacola> why does ubuntu default install the 686 image in stead of the 386?
[02:24] <coz_> xroach, so you have the nvidia drivers installed/
[02:24] <cherubiel> pir4: it lets you set a list of directories to searcg for libraries, before the standard ones are ysed
[02:24] <deadhobo> Omfg, I'm seriously about to throw my laptop out the window... the nvidia driver dosn't want to work at any screen resolution
[02:24] <theplatypus> Call me crazy, but with all of the problems people are having upgrading why don't hey wait
[02:24] <xroach> coz_ can u w8 until i reg so its easier then?
[02:24] <coz_> xroach, ok
[02:24] <MedivhX> is it nv driver or nvidia driver?
[02:24] <gnarlie> MedivhX: nvidia
[02:24] <javaJake> theplatypus: I'd say Ubuntu needs to lengthen their Release Schedule to fit more testing in. :|
[02:24] <javaJake> Does everyone agree that Ubuntu needs to lengthen their Release Schedule to fit more testing in?
[02:25] <MedivhX> 9*** or 8***
[02:25] <Raskall> no more free CD's of ubuntu. :( Really not a problem with my 6 mbit dsl, but it IS easier to convert people with a branded cd than a home-burned one.
[02:25] <shuan> hi
[02:25] <javaJake> Raskall: You _can_ pay.
[02:25] <Adriano> I'd say less people should use automatix/easyubuntu, but hey, talk is free
[02:25] <MedivhX> yep
[02:25] <shuan> i'm trying to make my home icon, recycle bin, file system icons on my desktop
[02:25] <shuan> anyone know how
[02:25] <deadhobo> I think that nvidia needs to release their drivers as open source, and I know everyone agrees there
[02:25] <Adriano> shuan:
[02:25] <javaJake> Adriano: Why?
[02:25] <gnarlie> deadhobo: who cares?
[02:26] <AnAnt> is there an Edgy DVD that is going to be released ?
[02:26] <shuan> Adiano: yes?
[02:26] <Adriano> shuan: they're configurable thru gconf-editor
[02:26] <rock_> totem says it cannoy play mp3 what do i need ?
[02:26] <Raskall> javaJake: I know. :) but I won't. I'm not working with linux any more, so my level of missionary work has dropped drastically.
[02:26] <Zyfo> how do I restart an application?
[02:26] <MedivhX> it's always better if it's oss
[02:26] <javaJake> AnAnt: Yea
[02:26] <Zyfo> a
[02:26] <shuan> k
[02:26] <coz_> AnAnt, there is one alrady
[02:26] <deadhobo> gnarlie: People who want 3d support without having to go in console... or people like me who can't get it to work at all
[02:26] <AnAnt> coz_: where ?
[02:26] <MedivhX> community can edit it
[02:26] <gnarlie> anyone know if gparted is on the 6.10 install image?
[02:26] <coz_> AnAnt, hold on
[02:26] <MedivhX> and make it better
[02:26] <Adriano> javaJake: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/259-It-was-always-known.html
[02:26] <Adriano> shuan: gimme a sec
[02:26] <coz_> AnAnt, here you go http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/release/
[02:27] <hitman> anyone types in swedish?
[02:27] <gnarlie> hitman: sure
[02:27] <hitman> bra
[02:27] <Raskall> hitman: is norwegian close enough?
[02:27] <shuan> Adriano: ok
[02:27] <Adriano> shuan: open gconf-editor, go to apps->nautilus->desktop
[02:27] <hitman> det duger
[02:28] <javaJake> Adriano: But it isn't always the user's fault. You can't just say "Ubuntu is invincible if you don't mess with it" and then drop everyone's bug reports about their system crashing after upgrade
[02:28] <gnarlie> hitman: hur s?
[02:28] <Raskall> hitman: men jeg tror ikke det er populrt  skrive annet enn engelsk her.
[02:28] <hitman> pm
[02:28] <javaJake> Adriano: The crashing is a sign of either Ubuntu's weakness, or Debian's as a whole.
[02:28] <Raskall> hitman: finnes det ikke en #ubuntu-se?
[02:28] <shuan> Adriano: yes
[02:28] <oka> #ubuntu.se
[02:28] <hf_linux> hello all
[02:28] <javaJake> hf_linux: Hey
[02:28] <Raskall> hitman: #ubuntu-se exists with a lot of users
[02:28] <coz_> xroach_, are you getting thepm
[02:28] <hf_linux> good evening
[02:29] <shuan> Adriano: Thanks
[02:29] <pegger> aiglx + beryl for edgy!!! where is it? please a good link
[02:29] <Adriano> javaJake: I guess not,
[02:29] <gnarlie> cherubiel: do you happen to know if gparted is on the install iso?
[02:29] <Toma-> Is there anyway to convert a vfat drive to ext3 without totally destroying everything on the drive?
[02:29] <javaJake> Adriano: You guess not about what?
[02:29] <MedivhX> you want a tut for aiglx + edgy?
[02:29] <gnarlie> Toma-: no
[02:30] <Adriano> About upgrades. But many of those who now complain had a pretty messed-up system, thanks to automatix/etc.
[02:30] <Toma-> i thought so :< thanks
[02:30] <screechingcat> firefox in edgy crashes every time i go to gmail or run a flash animation. how do i fix this ?
[02:30] <visik7> screechingcat: have you nvidia ?
[02:30] <Adriano> I had to do a clean install, and I don't do that stuff
[02:30] <javaJake> screechingcat: If you let Firefox install Flash on its own, things should work
[02:30] <syock> is it just me or is edgy slowing down my PC? so many disk read/write ever since I  upgraded
[02:30] <deadhobo> Ok, hopefully an easy question. The Nvidia driver readme says my card is located at 0x0347... what should I put in the xserver-xorg config? It wants something like "PCI:0:16:0"
[02:30] <javaJake> screechingcat: nvm
[02:30] <MedivhX> beryl on edgy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1536245
[02:30] <Orta> well now for some reason update manger works. Does anyone know how to get rid of the Computer and Trash icons?
[02:30] <javaJake> :P
[02:30] <visik7> beryl is ugly don't use it
[02:31] <mamzers555> i want to start a program from the applications-menu, this program should be startet in terminal. BUT i want to stay this terminal open, if i close the program, how can i do this?
[02:31] <MedivhX> better than compiz
[02:31] <Adriano> but currently, there's no nvidia updated package on Edgy, that after a vuln warning
[02:31] <javaJake> visik7: Why?
[02:31] <visik7> effects are ugly
[02:31] <MedivhX> beryl is cool
[02:31] <MedivhX> nope
[02:31] <Adriano> so the way is to install the nvidia.com one
[02:31] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me the hint
[02:31] <MedivhX> u're wrong
[02:31] <MedivhX> theyre better
[02:31] <pir4> anyone know how to install w32codec in AMD64?
[02:31] <MedivhX> then on compiz
[02:31] <visik7> genius effect for window minimize is horrible
[02:31] <javaJake> visik7: Really..?
[02:31] <Xk2c> pir4: yeap me, its not possible
[02:31] <MedivhX> he tells shit...
[02:31] <visik7> javaJake: I really don't like it
[02:32] <screechingcat> visik7: no nvidia
[02:32] <MedivhX> compiz = shit
[02:32] <MedivhX> beryl rulez!
[02:32] <thoreauputic> pir4: told you ages ago - it's a contradiction in terms
[02:32] <visik7> beryl defaults effects are uglyer than vista's
[02:32] <screechingcat> javaJake: that always fails
[02:32] <javaJake> !language | MedivhX
[02:32] <ubotu> MedivhX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <MedivhX> oh please
[02:32] <visik7> and more important they are useless
[02:32] <javaJake> MedivhX: Unless you wanna get kicked. :|
[02:32] <deadhobo> so... uh.. nobody has any idea how to use 0x0347 in xorg?
[02:32] <ompaul> !language
[02:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <MedivhX> ok
[02:32] <syock> pir4: enabled other repositories?
[02:32] <MedivhX> ok
[02:33] <EdgeT> Hey ppl, are WiFi keys still not supported by linux?
[02:33] <javaJake> deadhobo: Eh?
[02:33] <screechingcat> javaJake: what does a flash-firefox install have to do with gmail ?
[02:33] <Adriano> I'd like to know why beta4 of gaim keeps crashing, but I guess it'll remain a mistery.
[02:33] <MedivhX> is ubotu a bot?
[02:33] <andriijas> whats the best app for linux to play around with raw photos?
[02:33] <visik7> EdgeT: they are
[02:33] <thoreauputic> syock: *you can't install w32codecs on amd 64*
[02:33] <ompaul> MedivhX, yes
[02:33] <Adriano> MedivhX: yes
[02:33] <EdgeT> MedivhX yup
[02:33] <MedivhX> ok
[02:33] <javaJake> ROOFL
[02:33] <MedivhX> lol 3 answers
[02:33] <javaJake> ROFL*
[02:33] <ompaul> !nickspam > iXce
[02:33] <deadhobo> javaJake: "
[02:33] <El_Che> andriijas: dcraw + gimp
[02:33] <deadhobo> Whoops, "Ok, hopefully an easy question. The Nvidia driver readme says my card is located at 0x0347... what should I put in the xserver-xorg config? It wants something like "PCI:0:16:0""
[02:33] <andriijas> El_Che: dcraw?
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: Heehee
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: I don't get what the numbers refer too
[02:34] <EdgeT> visik7 so how do we install em plz?
[02:34] <javaJake> to*
[02:34] <iXce> hu?
[02:34] <El_Che> andriijas: sudo apt-get install gimp-dcraw
[02:34] <rysiek|pl> guys, as I can see three of you give an answer to the same question (lots of wasted recources IMHO ;) ), why don't you split up and help me in this:
[02:34] <MedivhX> anyone from serbia???
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: nvm
[02:34] <deadhobo> javaJake: It wants "the bus identifier"
[02:34] <ompaul> iXce, please read the message from Ubotu
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: Yea... that should be found via lspci
[02:34] <syock> thoreauputic: but i have it on my ubuntu. how `d it get there?
[02:34] <javaJake> deadhobo: Or Device Manager.
[02:34] <visik7> EdgeT: install wifi keys ? with iwconfig ?
[02:35] <iXce> ompaul : i read it
[02:35] <deadhobo> javaJake: How do I run that? My X is down...
[02:35] <thoreauputic> syock: are you running the amd64 version?
[02:35] <javaJake> deadhobo: Ah
[02:35] <rysiek|pl> I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:35] <visik7> EdgeT: what do you mean with wifi-keys ? the usbone ?
[02:35] <Xyphosura> does anyone have experience with 3d acceleration with the open source radeon drivers? did it work? Can i have 3d on my ati radeon 9250 pro?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> syock: of ubuntu I mean
[02:35] <EdgeT> nope
[02:35] <deadhobo> javaJake: I can bring it back up if I have to.. just have to switch the drivers around
[02:35] <EdgeT> visik7 the usb wifi keys
[02:35] <visik7> yes usb
[02:35] <iXce> i'm not using away msgs, and my nick did not change more than 2 times afaik
[02:35] <EdgeT> yeah
[02:35] <syock> thoreauputic: yup. I think I may have force installed it while installinng m,player
[02:35] <visik7> EdgeT: depend on the chip
[02:36] <visik7> EdgeT: which is your model ?
[02:36] <syock> argh PC so errac\c
[02:36] <javaJake> deadhobo: No... lspci should work
[02:36] <EdgeT> well i have an ovislink
[02:36] <mamzers555> how to start a program from the menu in with terminal AND that the terminal stays open?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> syock: erm, are you saying you have w32codecs actually working on 64 bit? Sounds impossible
[02:36] <ramen> how do i install ubuntu if the one in the repository does not work?
[02:36] <ramen> how do install AZUREUS?
[02:36] <javaJake> deadhobo: The equivilant to Ubuntu's Device Manager for terminal is lshal (pipe it to less).
[02:36] <ramen> not ubuntu
[02:36] <ramen> sorry
[02:37] <LjL> ramen, what repository does not work?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ramen:  sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:37] <EdgeT> yeah
[02:37] <thoreauputic> !info azureus
[02:37] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[02:37] <visik7> EdgeT: vendor and product please be more specific
[02:37] <mamzers555> ramen, you can download the package and start it from a directory if you like
[02:37] <rysiek|pl> well, anyone?
[02:37] <ramen> Whenever i try to install from add/remove programs, azureus does not work.
[02:37] <dudawifi> Buenas, para quemar cds y dejarlos abiertos para volver a grabar mas datos mas tarde con ubuntu????
[02:37] <ramen> it starts up and then crashes
[02:37] <LookTJ> what is the name of jsdk in synaptic?
[02:37] <javaJake> ramen: this is one of the not so great places to get support for Ubuntu, let alone another distro.
[02:37] <marten_71> !compiz
[02:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:37] <EdgeT> visik sel plz
[02:37] <EdgeT> sec*
[02:37] <javaJake> ramen: If you run azureus in the terminal, it should give you output
[02:37] <thoreauputic> ramen: do you have sun java installed ?
[02:38] <ramen> yes
[02:38] <W_McL> hi
[02:38] <ramen> JRE 5 right?
[02:38] <javaJake> thoreauputic: If he didn't, it wouldn't even run. :D
[02:38] <deadhobo> javaJake: Ah, thanks for the explination... I already restored X and I ran the command there. It gave me a completley diffrent address of "01:00.0 VGA Compatible controller: nVidia Corperation..."
[02:38] <javaJake> ramen: Yea
[02:38] <javaJake> deadhobo: That's it
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ramen: have you run  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:38] <javaJake> deadhobo: 01:00 is probably it
[02:38] <LookTJ> ramen: no, jdk
[02:38] <Jesus>
[02:38] <LookTJ> jdk 1.5
[02:38] <Jesus> HA!
[02:38] <LjL> ramen: perhaps you could try installing the "azureus-gcj" package
[02:38] <syock> is it just me or is something trying to log whatever i`m runnning? I hav e a feeling that my PC`s runnning something else. Am I being malwared?
[02:38] <syock> PC is lagging Let`s see when I get to read this message I just typed
[02:38] <thoreauputic> javaJake: yes, it runs with gcj ( badly, but it runs)
[02:38] <blisz> TankEnMate: i already have gconf2-common installed :S
[02:38] <javaJake> LookTJ: No, you don't need the JDK
[02:38] <javaJake> LookTJ: that's for programmers
[02:39] <javaJake> thoreauputic: Ah
[02:39] <jrib> syock: run 'top'
[02:39] <LookTJ> I am a programmer
[02:39] <LookTJ> -.-
[02:39] <EdgeT> visik7: Ovislink WL-5460USB
[02:39] <javaJake> ramen: OK, here's what we all think: you are running a different version of Java. Not sun java. GC java. So, there are two options.
[02:39] <iXce> !beryl
[02:39] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:39] <javaJake> ramen: Install azureus-gcj
[02:39] <deadhobo> javaJake: Thanks, but unfortionatly I guess that wasn't my problem with the nvidia driver :/
[02:40] <ramen> ok
[02:40] <javaJake> ramen: Or run update-alternatives --config java and select the sun-java package as the default
[02:40] <ramen> how do i do that?
[02:40] <dudawifi> hello, for burn multisesion CDs whit ubuntu????
[02:40] <savvas> LookTJ: automatix2 has it in its list
[02:40] <javaJake> deadhobo: What does Xorg.0.log say?
[02:40] <ramen> i mean install azureus-gcj
[02:40] <javaJake> dudawifi: apt-get install k3b
[02:40] <EdgeT> ramen sudo apt-get install azureus-gcj
[02:40] <EdgeT> ?
[02:40] <javaJake> dudawifi: Best burning utility for Linux, IMO
[02:40] <pir4> syock,  theres no repositorys for amd64 with w32codec
[02:40] <LookTJ> savvas: sorry I don't like automatix2
[02:40] <rysiek|pl> m'kay, once more:
[02:40] <rysiek|pl> I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:40] <visik7> EdgeT: you need ndiswrapper to get that wifi key work
[02:40] <LjL> !automatix | savvas
[02:40] <ubotu> savvas: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[02:41] <EdgeT> visik what's that?
[02:41] <deadhobo> javaJake: "(EE) Nvidia(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module"
[02:41] <savvas> ..
[02:41] <javaJake> EdgeT, ramen: azureus-gcj should be the last option, really. Let's see if we can update-alternatives instead
[02:41] <syock> pir4: sorry, maybe i did it manually
[02:41] <javaJake> deadhobo: AHA! No GLX module!
[02:41] <W_McL> i got a problem with the filesystem checking at boot up /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh dies with the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29084/
[02:41] <visik7> EdgeT: a module that use the windows driver on linux
[02:41] <javaJake> deadhobo: That's the issue. Somehow GLX isn't installed
[02:41] <EdgeT> javaJake sry dude i don't need it
[02:41] <visik7> EdgeT: is your key plugged in ?
[02:41] <EdgeT> k
[02:41] <ramen> ok
[02:41] <EdgeT> and does it work
[02:41] <EdgeT> nope
[02:41] <syock> evil nautilus spawned itself again
[02:41] <syock> no CPU consumiing app running here
[02:41] <visik7> EdgeT: do an lsusb
[02:41] <EdgeT> im on w!nd0z3 now
[02:41] <ramen> how do i update-alternatives?
[02:41] <javaJake> deadhobo: I'm assuming you know how to get GLX installed, right?
[02:42] <javaJake> ramen: Open a terminal
[02:42] <deadhobo> javaJake: Ah, well.. I just ran "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and it says "0 installed, 0 newly upgraded, 0 to remove, and 4 not upgraded"
[02:42] <visik7> EdgeT: and paste the line about your key
[02:42] <dudawifi> javaJake: Thanks
[02:42] <leafw> aparently slashdot is echoing the cries of a few. I dist-upgraded from dapper 6.06 to edgy yesterday and all was fine (powerpc here)
[02:42] <EdgeT> ramen use the console
[02:42] <ramen> yes....
[02:42] <javaJake> ramen: And run update-alternatives --config java
[02:42] <Jesus> Hi, I need help with reconfiguring my locales. I get a "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" error trying to enter chroot, and a "Please check that your locale settings [...]  are supported and installed on your system.". Need help!
[02:42] <EdgeT> visik7 in the lsusb thingy?
[02:42] <javaJake> ramen: Select the one with "sun" and "java" in it.
[02:42] <spocky> hi
[02:42] <ramen> ok
[02:42] <visik7> leafw: many ppl has got problem 'couse they use programs like fasterdapper / easyubuntu or automatix that mess your distro
[02:42] <javaJake> Jesus: Run apt-get install --reinstall locales.
[02:42] <visik7> EdgeT: paste the line regard your usb key
[02:43] <ramen> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[02:43] <pir4> syock,  how ?
[02:43] <javaJake> Jesus: That could fix it. (It did for me.)
[02:43] <leafw> visik7 : so much for a program that is supposed to make things easier.
[02:43] <ramen> am i doing it right?
[02:43] <Jesus> javaJake: That does nothing for me. :(
[02:43] <EdgeT> visik7 does that thing work every time?
[02:43] <javaJake> ramen: Now run azureus again
[02:43] <visik7> EdgeT: what ?
[02:43] <leafw> by the way, any clue why the cupsd system is burning 4% persistently?
[02:43] <javaJake> Jesus: OK, then I'm out of ideas. :P I don't know enough about locales to help
[02:43] <leafw> makes bad battery management
[02:43] <EdgeT> visik7:  "EdgeT: and paste the line about your key"
[02:44] <Jesus> javaJake: ok, thx anyway.
[02:44] <ramen> nope, it starts up and goes to My torrents, but then after a second it dissapears.
[02:44] <philwhln> does anyone know a good way to control itunes on my mac from ubuntu desktop?
[02:44] <EdgeT> visik7 does that module work every time?
[02:44] <visik7> EdgeT: I ask you to cut and paste the line regarding your key from the lsusb output
[02:44] <javaJake> ramen: Run azureus on the terminal
[02:44] <ramen> how do i do that?
[02:44] <deadhobo> javaJake: Erm... when I try to install nvidia-glx it is "already the newest version"
[02:44] <javaJake> ramen: Like you did update-alternatives
[02:44] <Lattyware> Hey all, After hearing about the problems with updates to 6.10, I decided to back up my partition, but when I try and do so with 'partimage' it tells me I have to unmount the partition, I'm presuming I can't unmount my root partition, so what should I do?
[02:44] <EdgeT> i can't, im on windoze right now
[02:44] <Jesus> Hi, I need help with reconfiguring my locales. I get a "E: locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid" error trying to enter chroot, and a "Please check that your locale settings [...]  are supported and installed on your system.", using, for example dpkg, apt-get etc..
[02:44] <javaJake> ramen: Just run "azureus" in the terminal
[02:44] <leafw> philwhln : what a question. Make your own applescript that runs python that listens from sockets .. good luck
[02:44] <tobias> sombody have the alsa 1.0.13 .deb?
[02:44] <javaJake> deadhobo: No kiddin'...
[02:44] <EdgeT> visik7 i didn't install ubuntu yet, gotta do some stuff before installin it
[02:45] <deadhobo> javaJake: Nope :/
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: Well watcha know. :P
[02:45] <visik7> EdgeT: ssh into your ubuntu box using putty
[02:45] <luisito> !mozilla-plugin
[02:45] <leafw> Lattyware : do so from a livecd
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <wozznik> hi
[02:45] <ramen> ok now it wants me to configure.
[02:45] <Lattyware> ah, that's annoying.
[02:45] <jrib> !mplayer-mozilla
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: OK... so... that isn't the issue, then... hmm...
[02:45] <philwhln> leafw: thank ;) I'll give it a try
[02:45] <EdgeT> visik7 i can't i didn't install it yet
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <jrib> heh
[02:45] <Lattyware> I'll do it later then.
[02:45] <jrib> luisito: the package is mozilla-mplayer
[02:45] <Lattyware> thankss
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: Is libgl1-mesa-glx installed? :)
[02:45] <luisito> how do I change the default video player for firefox?
[02:45] <visik7> EdgeT: how can I help you if you even haven't  install ubuntu ?
[02:45] <javaJake> deadhobo: I don't know if that'll help, but it is worth a shot
[02:45] <ramen> it works so far
[02:45] <jrib> luisito: have you installed mozilla-mplayer?
[02:45] <ramen> thanks javaJake.
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: Really!?
[02:46] <ramen> yes
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: Your kidding me!
[02:46] <EdgeT> visik7 actually i wanna install it tomorrow, cuz i got some stuff to do before
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: I mean, we basically did the same thing that clicking on that Azureus icon would do.
[02:46] <ramen> :S
[02:46] <dxdemetriou> how can I make check the disk like the: sudo shutdown -F -r now?
[02:46] <dxdemetriou> on edgy?
[02:46] <deadhobo> javaJake: Looks like it is, I ran apt-get install and it returned "4 not upgradeD"
[02:46] <ramen> but Clicking on the icon just made it crash.
[02:46] <ramen> :(
[02:46] <javaJake> ramen: Try running azureus without terminal this time
[02:46] <javaJake> deadhobo: hum
[02:46] <luisito> jrib, yes, but before I installed the gxine plugin and that is the one is launching when a video starts.
[02:46] <jrib> luisito: sudo touch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*mplayer*            then close all firefox and open again
[02:47] <wozznik> one question: i915 driver card is in edgy?
[02:47] <KenThomson> Sorry to interrupt: I was here before and asked people how to shrink/create/delete partitions of my Current Windows XP Pro HDD (basically for switching to Ubuntu 6.10), and someone suggested GPART live CD. Can i run it from a Windows BOX TOO? And can you suggest some other freeware or otherwise, to resize and repartion my HDD for ubuntu 6.10? I need help on partitioning (and also which filesystem to use, so that Data can be shared between the OSs).
[02:47] <KenThomson> I am having a 40GB PATA. Currently i have C: Drive (NTFS 10GB WINDOWS XP PRO) and D: Drive (NTFS 30GB DATA). Can you tell me how to partition it for Linux, the swap thing and all....the filesystems have got me really confused
[02:47] <rysiek|pl> I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:47] <javaJake> deadhobo: I gotta go
[02:47] <javaJake> ramen: I gotta go...
[02:47] <jrib> luisito: also you can just uninstall gxine plugin
[02:47] <ramen> it works w/o terminal
[02:47] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[02:47] <ramen> :D
[02:47] <javaJake> LOL
[02:47] <javaJake> OK
[02:47] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: :/
[02:47] <luisito> jrib, ok, let me try, thanks
[02:47] <deadhobo> JavaDeveloper: W.. nevermind
[02:47] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: ?
[02:47] <tannerld> :about
[02:47] <dxdemetriou> no one knows? how can I make scandisk on edgy after reboot?
[02:47] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: try apt-get remove openssl && apt-get install openssl, I have no idea if it'll work but it's worth a shot
[02:47] <tannerld> oopa
[02:47] <EdgeT> brb
[02:48] <gilnim> kk
[02:48] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: tried aptitude reinstall openssl to no avail, I'll try this too
[02:48] <ripper> is the freecontrib.org plf stuff down?
[02:48] <KenThomson> If someone can help me, i posted my question (above) about partitioning my drive. I will really be grateful. Thank you
[02:48] <daftvader> hi
[02:48] <noelferreira> lupine_85:  are you there?
[02:49] <daftvader> can any one help me find what my X module version is?
[02:49] <lupine_85> yes...
[02:49] <daftvader> apparently nvidia say that it is incompatible with its version
[02:49] <noelferreira> i'm with problems with my rt61 driver again
[02:49] <syock> I`m back. Sorry, I missed pretty much every message since the last post
[02:49] <noelferreira> you helped me and it worked fined
[02:49] <noelferreira> but after reboot
[02:49] <noelferreira> i can't get it working
[02:50] <syock> Like, I `died`ed
[02:50] <noelferreira> i don't know why
[02:50] <luisito> jrib, thank you
[02:50] <lupine_85> is the interface (wlan0) still there?
[02:50] <KenThomson> Linux is so problematic, just the act of starting drives me nuts, and than you guys got so many probs, i cant get this too work, this is incompatible this is that, this is so v.bad :((
[02:50] <noelferreira> yes
[02:50] <noelferreira> iwconfig shows it
[02:50] <noelferreira> but there's no ip
[02:50] <lupine_85> KenThomson: only the people with problems come here ;)
[02:50] <UFO64> heh
[02:50] <Tompu> KenThomson: i have no problems
[02:50] <ramen> Anyone know how to install moblock?
[02:50] <lupine_85> noelferreira: does the access-point show as being associated?
[02:50] <UFO64> i dont have a problem at the moment
[02:50] <KenThomson> you are quite write
[02:50] <KenThomson> right
[02:50] <ripper> lupine_85 do you know if they plf repos on freecontrib.org are gone?
[02:50] <noelferreira> yes
[02:51] <syock> Tompu: cool. You came to help anyone?
[02:51] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell KenThomson about install
[02:51] <lupine_85> ripper: no idea
[02:51] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell KenThomson about dualboot
[02:51] <lupine_85> noelferreira: ok, so what does "sudo dhclient wlan0" do?
[02:51] <AlanHaggai> How can I put my Edgy system to sleep mode?
[02:51] <syock> Who was addressing my drive read/write problem again?
[02:51] <lupine_85> !apm
[02:51] <noelferreira> don't release ip
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Toma-> does ext3 support online partition resizing?
[02:51] <LjL> KenThomson: the Desktop CD installer is able to repartition the drive automatically during installation, if you instruct it so. just be sure that you do NOT select the "erase entire disk" option, but instead select the option for shriking the current Windows partition to make space
[02:52] <theplatypus> YES! vmware is working great
[02:52] <LjL> KenThomson: it'll take care of creating a swap partition automatically
[02:52] <lupine_85> peculiar...
[02:52] <marten_71> Ken Thomson keep asking sooner or later some one will help you remember all here are here for help or for getting help
[02:52] <lupine_85> the driver is working fine then, it's just a network config issue
[02:52] <AlanHaggai> How can I put my Edgy system to sleep mode?
[02:52] <noelferreira> yes it is
[02:52] <lupine_85> if you statically assign one, does it work?
[02:52] <noelferreira> you resolved it with ap
[02:52] <sorush20> why cd should I use to get live cd login desktop or alternate?
[02:53] <ramen> Does anyone know how to install moblock?
[02:53] <tuskernini> anyone play midi in edgy?
[02:53] <tuskernini> !midi
[02:53] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:53] <noelferreira> no it doesn't
[02:53] <KenThomson> LjL: I could really appreciate if you could go over to my post at the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150, and help me solve the problem. My questions were so specific that i typed a whole page, to get others know better of exactly what i am asking. If you and other experienced users could go over to my forum post and help me get started, i would really be very very grateful
[02:54] <syock> tuskernini: if you like running in terminal, i suggest timidity
[02:54] <noelferreira> lupine_85:  i add this line to /etc/network/interfaces
[02:54] <Z_God> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy & now kdm seems to crash
[02:54] <noelferreira> wireless ap mac
[02:54] <lupine_85> ah...
[02:54] <Z_God> I'm getting a short backtrace
[02:54] <tuskernini> syock,  and if i want to play midi from firefox?
[02:54] <noelferreira> like you sad
[02:54] <lupine_85> it's meant to be "wireless-ap <mac address>"
[02:54] <noelferreira> yes it is
[02:54] <Z_God> could anyone look at it?
[02:55] <lupine_85> where <mac address> is something like: 00:12:BF:14:55:4A
[02:55] <lupine_85> note also that it's wireless-ap not wireless ap
[02:55] <syock> tuskernini: opoo. Never tried that. You mean just as in Windows? hmm....
[02:55] <noelferreira> sure
[02:55] <noelferreira> my acces point
[02:55] <noelferreira> and it worked last time
[02:55] <KenThomson> lupine_85: If you could hope on over to my forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150, and help me get started, it would really help me. Thank you
[02:55] <lupine_85> !badger
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about badger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <lupine_85> hmm...
[02:55] <tuskernini> syock, dunno, from a website... clicking on a .mid file...
[02:55] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me?
[02:56] <noelferreira> i really don't undersant
[02:56] <lupine_85> noelferreira: by the looks of it, the DHCP implementation on your router is a bit didgy
[02:56] <lupine_85> dodgy*
[02:56] <noelferreira> it was working fine
[02:56] <lupine_85> i.e. it's not letting you have an IP address
[02:56] <tuskernini> syock, i will installl timidity anyway
[02:56] <luisbg> the "ati" diver at xorg.conf is the slow one right?
[02:56] <lupine_85> have you tried clearing the DHCP leases in the router?
[02:56] <syock> tuskernini: i get your point. never found something like that yet. I`ll try to open synaptics again and see if my PC won`t crash
[02:56] <noelferreira> what should i do?
[02:56] <lupine_85> ^^
[02:56] <Z_God> seems I have this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58326
[02:56] <JoshuaW> I'm having problems getting my DWL-G122 Adapter to work, and one method sent me into having to reinstall :P
[02:56] <Z_God> sorry for the bother
[02:56] <lupine_85> JoshuaW: Revision B1 or C1?
[02:56] <KenThomson> Tompu: if you too could help me get started. I am really confused (comming from a Windows background) about swtiching to Ubuntu. PLease help me get started by answering some of my questions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1681150#post1681150. Thank you for your cooperation
[02:56] <JoshuaW> C1
[02:57] <lupine_85> that's rt73 then
[02:57] <tuskernini> syock, why does your system crash? oops
[02:57] <lupine_85> edgy?
[02:57] <aoupi> KenThomson: partitionmagic is a windows app that can shrink partitions
[02:57] <syock> edgy!!
[02:57] <JoshuaW> I've got NETPRISM working with NDISWrapper I think :P
[02:57] <syock> tuskernini: no idea. Actually i crashed it because it`s lagging so much. There`s so much disk activity I wonder what`s causing it
[02:57] <noelferreira> what should i do lupine_85, restart router?
[02:58] <lupine_85> that might work noelferreira
[02:58] <noelferreira> i'll try
[02:58] <lupine_85> JoshuaW: rt73 cards have a driver for linux, and it comes installed with edgy
[02:58] <LjL> KenThomson: well, first thing, if you have PATA i don't see why you would use a third hard drive dedicated to swap
[02:58] <JoshuaW> Yes
[02:58] <tuskernini> syock, are you not updateing at themoment'?
[02:58] <lupine_85> e.g. if you're running edgy, you should have a wlan0 interface ?
[02:58] <JoshuaW> But my connection doesn't seem to work
[02:58] <aoupi> KenThomson: for learning the shell: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:58] <LjL> KenThomson: or did you really mean partition there?
[02:58] <syock> tuskernini: ?
[02:58] <KenThomson> LjL: I only have one HDD. All the partitions are entirely logical
[02:58] <syock> tuskernini: I just updated from Dapper
[02:58] <JoshuaW> and I set wlan0 to the details :P
[02:58] <Shaye> How could I remove some programs that I uninstalled, but their icons are still on my applications menu
[02:58] <LjL> KenThomson: ah, then you should use the term "partition". drive is confusing
[02:58] <KenThomson> Ljl: I mean partitions
[02:59] <KenThomson> ok i shall edit it
[02:59] <tuskernini> syock, yes, but is your system not still bussy doing it... was what i ment
[02:59] <lupine_85> if you run "iwconfig" does it show the access point as a MAC address, "not-associated" or "invalid" ?
[02:59] <KenThomson> But thats what i am used to call it in Windows :(
[02:59] <fliegenderfrosch> i've got a router with an integrated switch and several pcs connected to it. there's also a cable connected which leads into another room. now i'd like to be able to connect several pcs in this other room as well. do i need a hub or a switch? and will i still be able to set ip adresses for every pc in the router's setup?
[02:59] <Shaye> How could I remove some programs that I uninstalled, but their icons are still on my applications menu
[02:59] <LjL> KenThomson: anyway, for linux you *don't* use VFAT. you use ext3 or reiserfs or xfs, or any other filesystem that is *created for linux* -- VFAT simply doesn't implement the needed things (Unix permissions, etc)
[03:00] <syock> tuskernini: I just reloginned so everything`s pretty much calm now
[03:00] <JoshuaW> :P
[03:00] <LjL> KenThomson: i suggest you just go with ext3. it's stood the test of time, it's a journalled filesystem, and it's the ubuntu default
[03:00] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: can't remove openssl, I would have to remove 40+ other packages :/
[03:00] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: hmm, try dpkg-reconfigure openssl
[03:00] <tuskernini> syock, good to hear.. i installed edgy from the start... long story
[03:00] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: trying
[03:00] <KenThomson> LjL: ok, so how do i configure my rest-of the HDD (30GB) to handle Ubuntu?
[03:01] <Shaye> gnomefreak, How could I remove some programs that I uninstalled, but their icons are still on my applications menu
[03:01] <Shaye> :)
[03:01] <cornell> Good morning...  I have a laptop with WinXP and it had Mandriva.  I tried to install Ubuntu, using alternate distro, in place of Mandriva.  It failed to install GRUB, so I went with LILO.  After rebooting, all that happened was a string of "9"'s.    How can I fix LILO, or install GRUB.  Is there a bootloader installer, or should I try installing Ubuntu again.
[03:01] <LjL> KenThomson: also, i'm not sure why you insist with using a Windows program to do the partitioning. i can mention Partition Magic (not free, afaik), if you really want to, but... why can't you do it in Linux? mind you, you don't *necessarily* have to use the "automatic" installed. you can boot the Desktop CD, launch GPartEd, and edit your partitions *manually* from there
[03:01] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: nope
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Shaye: try to restart you menu/panels
[03:01] <henna_> paps wtf is rt73 card, please
[03:01] <gnomefreak> s/you/your
[03:01] <KenThomson> Ljl: Ok that is a great idea! Is GPARTED bundeled with Ubuntu?
[03:02] <LjL> KenThomson: you boot from the Desktop CD, go to System, Administration (i think) and Partition Editor (GParted). there you can move and shrink partitions as you like
[03:02] <gnomefreak> KenThomson: you have to install it
[03:02] <Shaye> But how gnomefreak? I'm new to this
[03:02] <LjL> KenThomson: yes, it is on the Desktop CD
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Shaye: killall gnome-panel
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Shaye: see if the icons come back or not
[03:02] <Zyfo> !xlg
[03:02] <Z_God> can anyone here do this: dpkg -S /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolic ?
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <syock> tuskernini: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239255&highlight=midi+firefox why don`t you try this one out, I`m trying it myself
[03:02] <lupine_85>  dapper ntfsresize had a bad habit of killing the NTFS partition... is that still the case?
[03:02] <concept10> Hyper-threading is disabled with the generic ubuntu kernel.  Is this on purpose?  Anyone know why?
[03:02] <Z_God> dpkg -S /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy I mean
[03:02] <Z_God> thanks in advance
[03:03] <Tompu> KenThomson: after reading your post, I wouldnt recommend Ubuntu (or linux) to you at all, unless you're willing to be more flexible than your post suggests
[03:03] <tuskernini> syock, will do thankx
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Shaye: how did you remove them?
[03:03] <LjL> KenThomson: be sure you do a "chkdsk" on your windows partition first (although gparted will generally refuse touching it, if it sees there might be something wrong) -- and perhaps you'll need to run a defrag, to be able to shrink it enough.
[03:03] <Shaye> gnomefreak, icons are still there
[03:03] <Shaye> from the add or remove programs menu
[03:03] <slytherin> Z_God: There is no such file
[03:03] <aoupi> rysiek|pl: dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates
[03:03] <Z_God> hmm, thanks slytherin
[03:04] <Z_God> weird I'm getting an error about it from kdm
[03:04] <Z_God> it seems to be the reason it's crashing
[03:04] <tinus> hello, anyone able to install libqt4-dev on edgy?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Shaye: what apps are they?
[03:04] <KenThomson> Tompu: the fact that i went through all the trouble to type that past, and this month scurring the net for info on using Linux, should indicate that i am willing to swtich. And yes, i shall try to be flexible. Could you offer more context-sensitive help? I mean regarding the post
[03:04] <slytherin> Z_God: go to packages.ubuntu.com and search there
[03:04] <Shaye> gnomefreak, xchat gnome, and galeon web browser
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Shaye: try to see if you can run the apps from menu
[03:04] <Shaye> gnomefreak,  can't
[03:04] <LjL> KenThomson: then you also ask which filesystem gives the best performance. that's a hard question -- it really depends on how you use the filesystem. some say ReiserFS tends to be faster, but personally it'd still go with ext3.   Just forget about NTFS or VFAT, they can't really be used for Linux (they can be *read*, and sometimes *written to*, in Linux, but you can't really use them as your main Linux filesystem)
[03:05] <mr_daniel> ubuntu is just great, but there is one thing I am not able to handle
[03:05] <syock> Anyone here with the same lagging Edgy problem? I still can`t find the trigger
[03:05] <KenThomson> LjL: And what do you suggest about sharring data (movies, files, mp3s) between the OSs? What kind of filesystem should i use? Any advice?
[03:05] <Shaye> gnomefreak, it's saying no such file or directory, sicne i uninstalled
[03:05] <pegger> re
[03:05] <gnomefreak> Shaye: edgy?
[03:05] <Tadej> hello
[03:05] <Shaye> gnomefreak, yes
[03:05] <syock> edgy!
[03:05] <pegger> ha kell vkinek segitseg aiglx-el mostmar tok segiteni
[03:05] <Tadej> I have a problem with apt-get update
[03:05] <mr_daniel> who I can setup support midi-support?
[03:05] <Tadej> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29096/
[03:05] <Shaye> a bug?
[03:05] <Tompu> LjL, KenThomson: I've had no problems with writing VFAT
[03:06] <syock> mr_daniel: huh? What does that mean?
[03:06] <KenThomson> aoupi: Thanks for the site, it looks interesting?
[03:06] <LjL> KenThomson: FAT is the safest choice, since both Linux and Windows can write it with confidence. however, you could still use ext3 i think, because i believe there is third-party support for ext3 on Windows
[03:06] <mr_daniel> I am able to hear midi's with timidity, BUT I want also to hear the musik with other players like amarok
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Shaye: i would say go into alacarte and remove them from menu. it sounds likea  bug with add/remove apps
[03:06] <syock> mr_daniel: I dunno amaroK. does it have plugins?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Shaye: you can reinstall them an than sudo apt-get remove --purge app app
[03:06] <LjL> Tompu, KenThomson: i never you'd have problems with writing to VFAT
[03:06] <tinus>  libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3) but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 is to be installed
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Shaye: try that first
[03:06] <tiger_> mr_daniel:  mp3 ?
[03:06] <slytherin> Tadej: Don't use automatix.
[03:06] <rysiek|pl> aoupi: that installed me the certs (that's a big step forward), but I'm still missing the openssl.cnf file. what was the url of the repo search tool for ubuntu?