[02:53] <|2-bits|> xtknight: I was just briefly disconnected, I actually have another problem
[02:53] <polishpaul> Karsyth: which patch did you download exactly?
[02:53] <xtknight> i know what his problem is, i had exact same err msg with ET
[02:53] <sfears> |2-bits|, you can set a volume name for your usb drive in /etc/fstab
[02:54] <polishpaul> robilive: are you root? sudo su - ?
[02:54] <xtknight> .x86 is an executable not an sh
[02:54] <polishpaul> or su
[02:54] <|2-bits|> amenado: I am not sure what you mean by vlm?
[02:54] <karuna_bd1> robilive: sudo dont work? how come?
[02:54] <amenado> |2-bits|-> when you mentioned volume name, i thought you were referring to vlm systems, not ext3
[02:55] <|2-bits|> It's ext3
[02:55] <xtknight> |2-bits|, you want to rename the label of an ext3 partition?
[02:55] <robilive> polishpaul, karuna_bd1 every time I tipe "sudo" this is the error that I have "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440"
[02:55] <AstroDanule> my big brother gave the power of jesus to the people he went to highschool with
[02:55] <sfears> |2-bits|, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[02:55] <robilive> *type
[02:55] <amenado> |2-bits|-> to rename a devime where it mounts on, you use the udev rules
[02:55] <AstroDanule> i am the second comming
[02:55] <AstroDanule> my big brother gave the power of jesus to the people he went to highschool with
[02:55] <eshaase> is it generally pretty safe to do a apt-get upgrade?
[02:55] <|2-bits|> xtknight: yes
[02:55] <baalsgate> NTP ?
[02:55] <sfears> and what's on third.
[02:55] <karuna_bd1> robilive: owch
[02:55] <xtknight> |2-bits|, tune2fs i believe can set Volume name with proper parameters, but please read the manual before you jeopardize your system w/ it
[02:55] <Karsyth> xtknight: and when its done?
[02:55] <xtknight> :)
[02:55] <xtknight> Karsyth, when ET is done installing?
[02:55] <robilive> karuna_bd1, yes... owch :(
[02:56] <Karsyth> xtknight: no, this is a patch. i just did the chmod command and it seemed to work. what do i do next
[02:56] <xtknight> |2-bits|, assuming gparted can not do it?
[02:56] <xtknight> Karsyth, now type ./et.x86
[02:56] <cwillu_> I have an apt problem
[02:56] <cwillu_> how do I tell apt or aptitude or whichever to remove every package it installed from a particular repository?
[02:57] <baalsgate> chconfig did it on fedora
[02:57] <sfears> wow.. good question
[02:57] <cwillu_> without having it remove packages localling installed, etc (i.e., setting ubuntu-updates priority to >1000 isn't the answer)
[02:57] <baalsgate> whats the equivilant on ubuntu ?
[02:57] <orudie> jrib: there ?
[02:57] <jrib> orudie: what's up?
[02:57] <AstroDanule> my big brother gave the power of jesus to the people he went to highschool with
[02:57] <AstroDanule> i am the second comming
[02:57] <AstroDanule> my big brother gave the power of jesus to the people he went to highschool with
[02:57] <rsk> !op AstroDanule
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about op astrodanule - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <AstroDanule> i am the second comming of christ!
[02:58] <orudie> jrib: installed screen successfully, not quite understand what they mean in the tutorial by typine C-a c;
[02:58] <Turno> anyone have a good fix for admtek cards not pulling dhcp?
[02:58] <polishpaul> can someone boot jesus.. ty
[02:58] <xtknight> lol
[02:58] <amenado> |2-bits| forget what i typed earlier, my keyboard was sticky...
[02:58] <jrib> orudie: C-a means ctrl-a
[02:58] <sfears> you were typing and eating donuts again weren't you amenado?
[02:59] <sfears> you really gotta stop doing that
[02:59] <orudie> jrib: yeah thats what they said, i'm pressing CTRL+a, nothing happens
[02:59] <robilive> karuna_bd1, no way to reset the permission on sudoers?
[02:59] <splicer> This is probably a stupid question ... why does (my) 7.10 hang up whenever I click the [reload] button in response to ¨the list of available applications is out of date¨ ??
[02:59] <eshaase> is it generally pretty safe to do a apt-get upgrade?
[02:59] <polishpaul> hey guys, my screen's native res is 1400x1050, however if i set it to that res, (from 1280x1024) the desktop is too large for the screen. How would i make the desktop fit the proper res?
[02:59] <amenado> my only sustainence
[02:59] <Lectus> Hello! My friend wants to install linux on his PS3. Is Ubuntu recommended?
[02:59] <Gatton> robilive, i am guessing you never set the root password right?
[03:00] <jrib> eshaase: with official repositories, yes
[03:00] <xtknight> splicer, try typing "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal and see where it's hanging
[03:00] <cwillu_> eshaase, it's recommended (presuming you're not doing anything fancy with backports or unreleased versions of ubuntu
[03:00] <baalsgate> ANY ONE TELL ME WHAT SETS DAEMONS TO START ?
[03:00] <robilive> Gatton, I haven't set the root passwd
[03:00] <Sindacious> Lectus: I've heard Yellow Dog is good for a PS3
[03:00] <splicer> thanks ... giving it a whirl ...
[03:00] <Karsyth> xtknight: im getting this error now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59442/
[03:00] <NAM> hello
[03:01] <lwizardl> Hi
[03:01] <orudie> bazhang: there?
[03:01] <sfears> hello lwizardl
[03:01] <xtknight> Karsyth, you need to run et differently, i think.  you need to start it from the working directory
[03:01] <NAM> anybody help me? got probs heh heh
[03:01] <jrib> !caps | baalsgate
[03:01] <ubotu> baalsgate: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:01] <xtknight> Karsyth, like cd /usr/share/games/et then ./et, or something
[03:01] <jals> help, how do i get back ctrl functionality so it moves the cursor one word when used with left/right arrow
[03:01] <orudie> jrib: really stuck here with C-a c
[03:01] <xtknight> Karsyth, i'm really not sure the best way to set it up
[03:01] <sfears> <~~~~ iffy on the lowercase
[03:01] <bazhang> orudie: hi!
[03:02] <lwizardl> where does ubuntu keep the USB image for icons on the default theme?
[03:02] <xtknight> Karsyth, actually there is supposed to be a script called "et" somewhere that does it all for you
[03:02] <Gatton> robilive, i assume you might be able to boot with a live cd, mount your ubuntu file system and then change the permissions that way. but i'm not sure how you'd go about doing it sorry :-(
[03:02] <Karsyth> ok
[03:02] <jrib> orudie: press ctrl and the "a" button on your keyboard at the same time.  Then release.  Then press the "c" button
[03:02] <Karsyth> xtknight, any idea on where to find it?
[03:02] <orudie> jrib: oooooh lol ok it worked
[03:02] <robilive> Gatton, if is possible to make it in this mode I "have the power" :P
[03:02] <splicer> Oddly, the ´apt-get update´ worked without errors, but the gui will hang until I kill it ... days if I let it.
[03:03] <xtknight> splicer, odd
[03:03] <xtknight> Karsyth, no but here's the contents of my et script
[03:03] <xtknight> http://rafb.net/p/EornPw41.html
[03:03] <polishpaul> robilive: you can single-user the box to set the root password
[03:03] <baalsgate> jrib  YES THEY ARE CAPS
[03:03] <NAM> anyone know how to stop the XP bsod screen from going away so I can read it? Luckily I'm dual booting into Ubuntu!
[03:03] <robilive> polishpaul, sorry, i don't understand...
[03:03] <Karsyth> xtknight, i have no idea what to do with that. anyone willing to walk me through installing this ET patch?
[03:03] <heogen> hi
[03:04] <xtknight> NAM, disable "automatic reboot on system failure" (Or similar), in system properties
[03:04] <NAM> I cant boot into XP!
[03:04] <heogen> how can I result this problem: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:04] <TonyWong> sfears: I have tried your suggestion. After reconfigure the Xserver, I type startx but seems the old session (showing black screen ctrl-alt-f7) still exist. How do I kill the old session of x?
[03:04] <jrib> baalsgate: stop, no one will help you that way.
[03:04] <xtknight> NAM, ask #windows
[03:04] <NAM> thanks
[03:04] <|2-bits|> baalsgate: Could you be a bit more specific?
[03:04] <heogen> somebody may help me
[03:04] <baalsgate> jrib , no one is helping me anyways
[03:04] <NAM> is it connect #windows?
[03:04] <robilive> polishpaul, how do you mean with "can single-user the box"?
[03:04] <Starnestommy> NAM: actually, it's ##windows
[03:05] <jrib> baalsgate: you need to be patient and not annoy people
[03:05] <splicer> xp: my computer -> properties -> advanced -> startup and recovery settings -> toggle off automatically restart.
[03:05] <heogen> how can I result this problem E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:05] <orudie> jrib: how would i close a window ?
[03:05] <robilive> sorry for my NOT english :D
[03:05] <NAM> connect ##windows
[03:05] <NAM> ?
[03:05] <Starnestommy> NAM: /join ##windows
[03:05] <|2-bits|> NAM: /join ##windows
[03:05] <NAM> thanks!!
[03:05] <sfears> ctrl+alt to log out when in the non existant f7 gui.. that will restart the xserver & ask you to log in again
[03:05] <|2-bits|> Also: Looks like that webpage helped! Thanks, whoever furnished it! Still you'd think that I'd be able to do this through the GUI...
[03:05] <Arsiesys> Hello
[03:05] <baalsgate> jrib, yea i have tried that before and after a few hours of beeing ignored kinda over it ya know
[03:05] <sfears> ctrl+alt to log out when in the non existant f7 gui.. that will restart the xserver & ask you to log in again TonyWong
 thank you for your help! my problem, that apt whould connect to localhost is solved. i disabled anon-proxy and privoxy modules and removed the programm completly. i installed it during my tests with security-software like tor ...
[03:06] <jrib> orudie: ctrl-a k     also ctrl-a ?  gets you cheat sheet
[03:06] <polishpaul> robilive: while booting, the grub menu should show you a selection of OS's to boot into. I believe if you hit E for edit, you can add parameters. (single or something like /bin/bash) which will let you in the box without authentication
[03:06] <sfears> tonywong.. ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:06] <jrib> baalsgate: do you have a question?
[03:06] <polishpaul> ingo__: awesome! yw
[03:06] <heogen> hi somebody can help me please
[03:06] <quakky_> guys when i do the aplay -l command, it doesnt show my soundcard..... I can tell u that sound used to work, but for some reason it isnt working anymore
[03:06] <Y-Town> I notice in Firefox that many websites I visit dont look as good as they do in Internet Explorer...What can be done to make websites look better?
[03:06] <heogen> I have this problem E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:07] <Gatton> polishpaul, can you also do something like  init 1  at a terminal to get to single user mode?
[03:07] <baalsgate> jrib, finding it hard to find the documentation to get the equivilant of chkconfig to start NTP
[03:07] <xtknight> heogen, your update manager or synaptic is open
[03:07] <jrib> heogen: what were you trying to do?
[03:07] <xtknight> heogen, you can not have two programs using the software package system at once
[03:07] <polishpaul> robilive: can you wait here for a minute while i test it out so i can give you exact instructions?
[03:07] <KNY> quick question: any idea when 7.10 will be getting gnome 2.22?
[03:07] <polishpaul> Gatton: that's a good idea...
[03:07] <heogen> ok
[03:07] <TonyWong> trying...
[03:07] <[Neurotic]> Heya, I have a USB headset pluged in, how can I work out what /dev point it hooks up to?
[03:07] <robilive> ok polishpaul ... then I have to edit the line in GRUB with a /bon/bash at the end?
[03:07] <xtknight> [Neurotic], well it should be detected by alsa.  is it?
[03:07] <heogen> jrib when a trying to install a program
[03:08] <jrib> heogen: tell me the exact command
[03:08] <robilive> polishpaul, if is possible, tank you so much :D
[03:08] <polishpaul> robilive: yeah, something like that.. let me double check for you.
[03:08] <TonyWong> What is the default login password for root of Ubuntu LiveCD 7.10?
[03:08] <sfears> [Neurotic], lsusb?
[03:08] <xtknight> [Neurotic], at least as far as i know.  usb/pci shouldnt matter.  it should appear to alsa
[03:08] <robilive> tnak you polishpaul :D
[03:08] <heogen> jrib show dont let me do it
[03:08] <polishpaul> you would then just use 'passwd' to change root's pass.. one moment plz
[03:08] <TonyWong> Oh, it logs in by itself....
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[03:08] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:08] <heogen> dpkg
[03:08] <heogen> jrib dpkg
[03:08] <kestir> heogen: you can't have two open at the same time
[03:08] <jrib> baalsgate: you installed the ntp package?
[03:08] <kestir> heogen: just told you
[03:08] <sfears> holy deep ubotu
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[03:08] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[03:08] <heogen> kestir no
[03:08] <[Neurotic]> xtknight, it is, but I have some code that is recording on /dev/dsp and I need to change it so it records through the right /dev point
[03:08] <baalsgate> jrib, just want to set NTP service to start at startup , yes NTP is installed
[03:08] <[Neurotic]> it does show up on Alsa, yes
[03:08] <jrib> heogen: yes of course "dpkg" doesn't do anything.  It will throw errors.
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> polishpaul, Please dont suggest that
[03:09] <Y-Town> I notice in Firefox that many websites I visit dont look as good as they do in Internet Explorer...What can be done to make websites look better?
[03:09] <xtknight> [Neurotic], hmm maybe theres a /dev/dsp1 or something.  ls /dev/dsp*
[03:09] <heogen> jrib yeah
 yw? - what does it mean? ^^
[03:09] <Xcerca> is there any tool that i can use to adjust the size and orientation of my display with a gui ?
[03:09] <jrib> baalsgate: iirc, all you need to do is install the ntp package.  It will set itself up.  Have you found that not to be the case?
[03:09] <xtknight> [Neurotic],  or perhaps you can set /dev/dsp to the proper device, elsewhere?
[03:09] <jrib> heogen: what are you trying to install?
[03:09] <TonyWong> Login already, but it is not 1024x768 resolution....800x600? or 640x480 I think....
[03:09] <heogen> jrib and the system say me lock it
[03:09] <polishpaul> Jack_Sparrow: suggest single user? why not? he does not have a root password
[03:09] <sfears> Xcerca, if your using nvidia drivers nvidia-settings
[03:09] <jals> help, how do i get back ctrl functionality so it moves the cursor one word when used with left/right arrow
[03:09] <xtknight> yw = you're welcome
[03:09] <[Neurotic]> xtknight, there is a /dev/dsp1 maybe that is it, I tried that, didn't seem to work.  Hmnn.. good point about moving the devide, I will give that a shot
[03:09] <polishpaul> ingo__: yw = you're welcome
[03:10] <heogen> jrib jsut update
[03:10] <heogen> the new program
[03:10] <heogen> jrib
[03:10] <jrib> heogen: you want 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:10] <xtknight> [Neurotic], well i mean like in sound properties it says use this device for recording, use that, etc.. it might be saying "/dev/dsp is this device"
[03:10] <polishpaul> Gatton: i just relized.. init 1 may not work if he's not root?
[03:10] <ingo__> ah, i see. :-)
[03:10] <|2-bits|> Y-Town: I don't think there is much you can do. Most of that has to do with bad web page design that causes rendering errors on standards-compliant browsers...
[03:10] <[Neurotic]> xtknight, I'm trying to get skype-rec to work on my setup  (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeRecordingHowto)
[03:10] <jrib> heogen: and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' afterwards
[03:10] <jrib> !apt > heogen (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> polishpaul, Better to see what he want to do...that he needs root
[03:11] <xtknight> [Neurotic], does skype have options for selecting the device
[03:11] <Y-Town> |2-bits|: daqrn...
[03:11] <Xcerca> sfears  yea i have that set up, but the panels stick way off the edge of the screen
[03:11] <|2-bits|> Y-Town: However!
[03:11] <Y-Town> |2-bits|: darn   :o)
[03:11] <xtknight> [Neurotic], oh, never mind i see what you're trying to do
[03:11] <|2-bits|> Y-town: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[03:11] <heogen> jrib and the another error is This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[03:11] <heogen> J2SDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[03:11] <heogen> archives:
[03:11] <heogen>     j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip
[03:11] <heogen> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[03:11] <heogen> Please visit
[03:11] <FloodBot1> heogen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <polishpaul> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i just saw that someone didn't have their root pass so i suggested single usering and setting root. I don't see any harm in that.
[03:12] <[Neurotic]> xtknight, yes it does.. I'm going to try setting them all to default.. so in theory it goes through /edv/dsp and see if that works
[03:12] <[Neurotic]> xtknight, thanks
[03:12] <sfears> sounds like your resolution is bigger than your screen size or your using dual monitors you have one screen dragged ontop of the other Xcerca
[03:12] <polishpaul> robilive: i found a tutorial that may help - http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub
[03:12] <|2-bits|> Y-town: That is a script that installs several versions of IE on linux
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> polishpaul, We do not suggest people set root password.
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[03:12]  * sfears play jyparado song
[03:12] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[03:12] <orudie> jrib: once i close putty, the process that i was running terminated
[03:13] <|2-bits|> Y-town: but you need to install Wine first
[03:13] <robilive> ok polishpaul ... then I go to read the tutorial and if I have a problem come back :D
[03:13] <tony_> Is there a way to upgrade to Gnome 2.22
[03:13] <heogen> jrib thank you
[03:13] <sfears> gyparody*
[03:13] <polishpaul> Jack_Sparrow: how come?
[03:13] <mojo> Anyone here good with mounting USB disks?  I have an SD card in a USB reader that I'd like to mount... it's on an ubuntu-server system, so hotplug is not running (?) or maybe just isn't picking it up.  But lsusb gives output, (Bus 005 Device 002: ID 55aa:2b12 OnSpec Electronic, Inc.)
[03:13] <robilive> tank you polishpaul :D
[03:13] <Xcerca> sfears i've been playing with xrandr  ,  have you used it before
[03:13] <jrib> orudie: no, type 'screen -r' to reattach your screen
[03:13] <sfears> i have not Xcerca
[03:13] <mojo> How do I manually mount that USB device as a disk?
[03:13] <|2-bits|> tony_: The next version of ubuntu should have Gnome 2.22. The ubuntu project is intentionally designed that GNOME and Ubuntu releases coincide
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> polishpaul, It isnt necessary , it is the policy of the channel...
[03:13] <Y-Town> |2-bits|: Im trying to be anti Windows here  :o)
[03:13] <|2-bits|> !ies4linux | Y-town
[03:13] <ubotu> Y-town: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[03:14] <tony_> Ah
[03:14] <sfears> mojo, mount /dev/sda1,2,3... /home/user/Desktop/folder ?
[03:14] <`Joey`> I am using Firefox w/ Ubuntu, and there is a certain site that I cannot access, but I can using Firefox is Microsoft Windows
[03:14] <|2-bits|> Y-town: That may or may not fit your needs. Your millage may vary.
[03:14] <`Joey`> http://www.runevault.com/ takes me to http://s94703575.onlinehome.us/ in ubuntu firefox, but not in windows firefox.
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib, Who made that factoid...  The people in wine feel that script is right on par with automatix and even their topic says they will not help you if you have used it
[03:15] <baalsgate> jrib , NTP is not starting on boot
[03:15] <Y-Town> |2-bits|: I think I would rather deal with slightly less in a web page   :o)
[03:15] <angusb> geirha, hey you there?
[03:15] <baddog144> How do I install Firefox 3 Beta 4 once i have extracted the .tar.bz2 File?
[03:15] <polishpaul> Jack_Sparrow: really? hmm ok ty
[03:15] <baalsgate> jrib , NTP is installed can run it manualy with sudo /etc/init.d/ntp start
[03:15] <polishpaul> Jack_Sparrow: what would you suggest instead? for a user that cannot gain root?
[03:16] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: no idea
[03:16] <sfears> baddog144, did you download firefox source files?
[03:16] <jrib> baalsgate: read 'man update-rc.d' or use sysv-rc-conf to make sure it is set to run on runlevel 2
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> polishpaul, this is not up for debate in this rrom, feel free to discuss in -offtopic .. sudo or gksudo will do what they need
[03:16] <baddog144> no, just err... alot of files and some shell scripts... no source files
[03:17] <Stwange> what's the torrent client that comes with ubuntu called? I'm trying to run it over SSH and can't remember the name of it
[03:17] <TonyWong> It works, sfears. Thanks.
[03:17] <macogw> hey i got a i965, running Gutsy, I've got Compiz going (used SKIP_CHECKS="yes")...but gtk-window-decorator's not drawing window borders. any ideas?
[03:17] <sfears> welcome TonyWong
[03:17] <TonyWong> Need to reconfigure the Xserver.
[03:18] <sfears> TonyWong, some kind of video driver issue, vesa is generic
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> macogw, compiz --replace or metacity --replace
[03:18] <khyle> elo
[03:18] <thiebaude> How do I fix broken dependencies in Synaptic?
[03:18] <macogw> Jack_Sparrow: compiz is running
[03:18] <sfears> you can slowly try to figure out how to get better graphics & resolution.. might need some restricted drivers TonyWong
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> macogw, understood... I still suggest you try the command
[03:19] <jals> how do i get back ctrl functionality so it moves the cursor one word when used with left/right arrow
[03:19] <macogw> Jack_Sparrow: thats how i started compiz
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> thiebaude, WHat non-ubuntu repos have been added
[03:19] <khyle> what program can i use to log in to yahoo messenger account
[03:19] <orudie> jrib: any more specifics on screen -r ?
[03:19] <jals> i changed a setting to ctrl+left arrow in compiz now i can't get it back
[03:19] <Starnestommy> khyle: pidgin?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> macogw, Feel free to ask in #Compiz
[03:19] <macogw> Jack_Sparrow: kk
[03:20] <baalsgate> jrib , under fedora I would just run chkconfig ntp on , sysv-rc-conf is not installed btw
[03:20] <jrib> orudie: did it work? what did it say?
[03:20] <TonyWong> okay, thanks for your suggestion.
[03:20] <khyle> where bro
[03:20] <sfears> jals, have you changed the compiz setting back to something that's not ctrl+arrow?
[03:20] <jrib> baalsgate: yes, it's  installed by default, but it makes it easier
[03:20] <integration> pheww just finished setting up my Gutsy 802.11g driver that took a while hehehe
[03:20] <jals> sfears, yes
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=2494#9481
[03:20] <jals> firs thing i tried
[03:20] <mamefan> I'm trying to get tomcat to start on boot.  The startup.sh script included with tomcat55 works great but the init script doesn't.  Where can I get more info on how to get this working on boot?
[03:20] <baalsgate> jrib , ok i will have a look at that cheers
[03:20] <robilive> ok, I'm going to reboot and to try if it work :D see you later :D
[03:21] <jared>  does anyone know if ubuntu is compatible with nvidia audio hardware? i have no sound on my laptop after installing ubuntu
[03:21] <thiebaude> openoffice.org-core, openoffice.org-filter-binfilter, openoffice.org-write, this is in 8.04
[03:21] <jals> how the hell do i fix this
[03:21] <jals> i don't even know what to search for to google it
[03:21] <jrib> orudie: you detach from a screen session with C-a d  and then reattach later with the command 'screen -r'
[03:21] <thiebaude> im testing 8.04, jack
[03:21] <orudie> jrib: you said screen -r
[03:21] <sfears> just an idea.. if you changed the compiz setting from ctrl+arrow to a setting that was already used in compiz it may have then replaced that one with ctrl+arrow.. make sure there's no settings in compiz using that jals
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> thiebaude, You need to ask in #Ubuntu+1
[03:21] <khyle> can anyone help me how to log in to my yahoo id jus like yahoo messenger?
[03:21] <jrib> orudie: it's a command you run in your shell
[03:21] <thiebaude> kewl, thanks
[03:22] <orudie> jrib: yeah i tried that, it returned output
[03:22] <chiefwigms> hey guys - anyway to get kubuntu to have desktop spanning (have windows between desktops) like ubuntu?
[03:22] <jals> sfears, i tried changing it once again to ctrl + arrow and it didn't tell me there were any conflicts so i don't think it's that
[03:22] <jrib> orudie: tell me
[03:22] <jals> i'll just try restarting x i guess
[03:22] <sfears> jals, disable compiz & see if they come back.. if they do then it's a compiz issue.. if they don't then it's something else..
[03:22] <jals> how do i do that sfears?
[03:23] <sfears> system/administration/appearance set it to none
[03:23] <sfears> i think
[03:23] <thiebaude> jack, i'll try and reninstall openoffice
[03:23] <Karsyth> whats the command to see all processes running again?
[03:23] <Starnestommy> Karsyth: ps aux?
[03:23] <polishpaul> exti
[03:23] <polishpaul> oops
[03:23] <sfears> jals, system/prefs/appearance
[03:23] <tyler_c6> what
[03:23] <jals> got it
[03:23] <jals> ah yes
[03:23] <jals> that fixed it
[03:23] <orudie> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59443/
[03:23] <jals> guess that is the problem
[03:24] <mamefan> I'm trying to get tomcat to start on boot.  The startup.sh script included with tomcat55 works great but the init script doesn't.  Where can I get more info on how to get this working on boot?
[03:24] <sfears> ok.. then it's definately with compiz jals there's a setting in there somewhere overriding
[03:24] <mamefan> anyone?
[03:24] <jrib> orudie: do you see what it is telling you?
[03:24] <tyler_c6> what is going on
[03:24] <jals> fucksocks
[03:24] <orudie> jrib: yes
[03:24] <orudie> hehe
[03:24] <tyler_c6> i like socks
[03:24]  * sfears got a new job today tyler_c6
[03:24] <sfears> it's goin on
[03:25] <tyler_c6> i c
[03:25] <chuy_max> hi, is there a command to know what shell am I using?
[03:25] <orudie> srib: so say i would to resume the second one, what exactly would i type ?
[03:25] <tyler_c6> i gotta take a shit womeone wanna help with that
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jals, Please watch the language
[03:26] <sfears> i'm sure they do tyler_c6.. you should be a little more descriptive
[03:26] <tritium> !language | tyler_c6
[03:26] <ubotu> tyler_c6: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:26] <M__> hey went to update to hardy and my laptop battery died part way through. I can't log in through the gui and I did dpkg --configure -a and now errors were encountered when processing: policykig, hal, gnome-mount, ubuntu-desktop, gnome-session, and more what should i do?
[03:26] <orudie> jrib: so say i would to resume the second one, what exactly would i type ?
[03:26] <|2-bits|> Wow, who are all these charming people
[03:26] <tyler_c6> does poop work better for ya
[03:26] <sfears> yes it does
[03:26] <sfears> d;)
[03:27] <iobelisk> hi guys, i have a pretty serious problem, i think. i was in the middle of a update (testy hardy alpha) and the update process showed an error because of missing dependencies. i had to manually restart the computer and now in normal boot mode the system sort of stalls (for loooooong) on 'staring system logs daemon', when i try recovery mode, it drops to bash, asks me for my username, i enter it, hit enter, and nothing, it fails. i restart a
[03:27] <amenado> chuy_max-> type shell --version  i think this will tell you
[03:27] <jrib> orudie: screen -r 8924.pts-1.ubuntu
[03:27] <bruenig> iobelisk: this channel is for the current version of ubuntu
[03:27] <amenado> iobelisk-> go see #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <chuy_max> amenado, command not found
[03:27] <|2-bits|> iobelisk: try ubuntu+1
[03:27] <bruenig> chuy_max: replace "shell" withh whatever your shell is
[03:27] <bruenig> presumably bash
[03:28] <|2-bits|> * #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <amenado> chuy_max-> yes but it would have responded with a shell you currently have, most likely bash:..
[03:28] <iobelisk> bruenig, amenado, |2bits|, thanks
[03:28] <orudie> jrib: right, but how would i actually close putty without stopping the processes ?
[03:28] <quakky_> guys im getting this error when i try to test my playback ...audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[03:28] <sfears> i hope dev gets better at resuming after shut down during update/install.. that's happened to me before
[03:28] <chuy_max> bruenig, I have to know which shell I am currently using
[03:28] <jrib> orudie: just click the x, screen will keep running
[03:28] <bruenig> chuy_max: echo "$SHELL"
[03:29] <chuy_max> bruenig, that didn't work, suppose I use ksh, and do echo $SHELL, that gives me bash path
[03:29] <stevendemorez> i was wondering if anyone could give me a reason as to why particular processes folders show up in my loading of one kernel and not the other and as to how I could get these files to load up (I don't know why they didn't transfer over actually)
[03:29] <bruenig> chuy_max: well SHELL is the login shell
[03:29] <rnartos> anyone tried PloneFSS ?? is it good??
[03:29] <bruenig> chuy_max: what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:30] <TrustNoOne> vertically my desktop icons are spaced good, but horizontally they are too far apart, how can i change this?
[03:30] <usser> hello guys
[03:30] <chuy_max> bruenig, know which shell I'm currently using
[03:30] <karuna_bd1> !language
[03:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:30] <bruenig> chuy_max: why don't you already know?
[03:30] <amenado> stevendemorez-> what are you looking at?
[03:30] <|2-bits|> usser: Hello. Do you have a question
[03:30] <usser> chuy_max: echo $SHELL
[03:30] <bruenig> usser: that is for login shell
[03:30] <usser> |2-bits|: I have answers :)
[03:30] <quakky_> !sound
[03:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:30] <|2-bits|> haha
[03:32] <Y-Town> LogMeIn does not work on Linux, Does anyone know a remote login program for linux that works similar to LogMeIn?
[03:32] <usser> bruenig: I see that's interesting how do you find out your current shell\
[03:32] <pstv> Does anyone know a soundfont player for ubuntu?
[03:32] <Starnestommy> Y-Town: vnc?
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> Y-Town: uh, the VNC client of your choice?
[03:33] <Gatton> usser, echo $SHELL works for me
[03:33] <chuy_max> Gatton, that's the login shell, it has been said before ^^
[03:33] <bruenig> usser: you should just know
[03:33] <mboman> Is there a alfa, beta or release candidate of the Mobile edition that I can download somewhere?
[03:33] <bruenig> I don't see why this would ever be useful
[03:34] <Gatton> chuy_max, well what shell do you suppose I'm in once I'm logged in?
[03:34] <Y-Town> Starnestommy: tonyyarusso  Does that work with a DHCP connection?  my web host doesnt give me static
[03:34] <chuy_max> bruenig, that's a very interesting question, I was very curious if there was a way to know
[03:34] <bruenig> Gatton: type dash right now in a terminal
[03:34] <Starnestommy> Y-Town: it should as long as you remember the ip
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> Y-Town: dyn-dns
[03:34] <jrib> orudie: get it?
[03:34] <Gatton> bruenig, i get a dollar sign prompt
[03:34] <bruenig> Gatton: echo "$SHELL"
[03:34] <usser> Gatton: that's login shell
[03:35] <Gatton> bruenig, i get the same shell as before
[03:35] <usser> hehe
[03:35] <bruenig> that is not a login shell, that is the dash shell
[03:35] <bruenig> Gatton: but the shell you are actually using is dash, not bash
[03:35] <bruenig> hence, that method is fail
[03:35] <Y-Town> tonyyarusso: I think that might be the solution  :o)
[03:35] <Gatton> bruenig, you learn something everyday :-) thanks
[03:35]  * usser well yea I mean you should know what shell you are running
[03:35] <usser> period
[03:36] <Y-Town> Starnestommy: I dont have control of when I loose it  :O(
[03:36] <usser> but still
[03:36] <Gatton> bruenig, so is dash supposed to be a compatible replacement for bash?
[03:36] <bruenig> basically here is how I see it, if you haven't explicitly called another shell, you are using the login shell, which you can find out using echo $SHELL. If you have explicitly called another shell, then you know because you called it after all.
[03:37] <bruenig> Gatton: they aren't compatible completely
[03:37] <scott> so how do I disable Xgl?
[03:38] <scott> I'm tired of compiz crashing on me, I want to switch back to pekwm
[03:38] <nickrud> bruenig: when I do dash (learning my daily thing here) env  reports _=/bin/dash, is that repeatable with other shells? I don't have another installed to test with at the moment
[03:38] <scott> but I can't quite figure out what's starting xgl, and pekwm seems unable to grab the root window with it running
[03:38] <bruenig> nickrud: when I do env, I get _=/usr/bin/env so...
[03:39] <karuna_bd1> does anyone know where to learn c++ (for really really beginner)
[03:39] <bruenig> karuna_bd1: a book of course
[03:40] <karuna_bd1> bruenig:  any good recommendations? books are really expensive in malaysia
[03:40] <nickrud> bruenig: I see that when I'm in my login shell, I guess I'll install a couple others to test. Hope I don't get lost in them :)
[03:40] <bruenig> karuna_bd1: I don't know, you can probably piece it together from online stuff if you wanted to
[03:40] <orudie> jrib: thanx bro, this worked out perfect
[03:40]  * usser zsh FTW
[03:40] <bruenig> nickrud: oh I see that when I am in my login shell too
[03:41] <bruenig> zsh is a neat toy
[03:41] <bruenig> scripting in it is silly however
[03:41] <orudie> nickrud: hey, i fixed my database by just simply reinstalling phpmyadmin
[03:42] <nickrud> orudie: heh. Nice
[03:42] <percy> :)
[03:42] <nickrud> I'm barely bash literate after all these years, I don't need to try another
[03:42] <percy> =-O
[03:42] <S82> Anyone who can tell me what widgets people use to get full size'd icons on the bottom instead of the regular styled gnome look?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> S82, I use cairo-dock
[03:43] <usser> S82: you a mac style dock?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[03:43] <S82> sec ill show you what i mean
[03:43] <usser> S82: awn or kiba-dock if you have compiz
[03:43] <S82> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=70284&file1=70284-1.gif&file2=70284-2.jpg&file3=&name=Dark+Ice+Emerald
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I have compiz and cairo
[03:44] <S82> I guess thats cairo dock?
[03:44] <amenado> is having a program residing in ramdisk run any faster? or it only meant loading it is faster?
[03:44] <usser> S82: that's kiba-dock
[03:44] <crdlb> S82: that is avant-window-navigator
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> S82, there are several themes... I use the cairo doc with osx theme
[03:45] <usser> crdlb: is it? looks like kiba to me
[03:45] <crdlb> usser: yes :)
[03:45] <roantreb> hi all. Nice dock etc. S82 Anyone have an idea how to get texlive working
[03:46] <S82> crdlb, okay avant also known as awn yeh?
[03:46] <roantreb> go on....crdlb......
[03:46] <TrustNoOne> can u get linux for mobile phone
[03:46] <jrib> roantreb: you just install it and it works :/
[03:46] <crdlb> S82: yup
[03:46] <xtknight> anyone notice KDE seems to be faster than gnome for large amounts of windows/movement?  just in general stuff redraws and feels faster, i dont know what it is
[03:46] <amenado> TrustNoOne-> there are claims thats it has been done
[03:47] <karuna_bd1> TrustNoOne:  that would be cool
[03:47] <S82> cant find kiba nor awn under synaptic though, do i need to cvs it?
[03:47] <chuy_max> xtknight, I actually feel gtk apps are faster than Qt apps
[03:47] <roantreb> ......mmm..... From the distro site or is it meant to  be from a repository
[03:47] <chuy_max> at least Qt < 4.0
[03:48] <xtknight> chuy_max, really.  interesting.  i have the opposite experience
[03:48] <zero88> While in working on a file in Vim, how would i save and quit? I cant seem to be able to do it
[03:48] <bruenig> zero88: :wq :x ZZ
[03:48] <bruenig> pick one they all work
[03:48] <xtknight> you have to press escape then type that
[03:48] <xtknight> :wq
[03:48] <bruenig> yes be in command mode for sure
[03:48] <Scunizi> bruenig, it's so easy.. how could we have not known that
[03:48] <xtknight> lol
[03:48] <bruenig> obviously in insert mode, it will just insert
[03:48] <zero88> bruenig,  ive tried that, and hit enter ,but nothing work
[03:49] <scott> what's a good way to tell what's got my root window locked?
[03:49] <scott> even when I kill metacity, I can't start my other window manager
[03:49] <bruenig> zero88: what does it say at the bottom?
[03:49] <zero88> bruenig, insert
[03:49] <bruenig> zero88: you are in insert mode, see xtknight's message about how to get to command mode: esc
[03:49] <xtknight> zero88, press escape, type :wq the npress enter
[03:50] <S82> crdlb, or usser does it need to come from cvs or some other rep than the official?
[03:50] <xtknight> get in command mode, :wq (write+quit); enter (acknowledge command)
[03:50] <zero88> xtknight, bruenig there it is. thanks alot :)
[03:50]  * bruenig uses :x most often
[03:50] <xtknight> zero88,  i like nano better personally.  nano's save is ctrl+W (write) i think and then ctrl+X exit if you find vim confusing.
[03:50] <xtknight> err ctrl+O
[03:50] <xtknight> writeOut
[03:51] <bruenig> depends on what you are doing with it, try programming in nano, not fun
[03:51] <crdlb> S82: it will be in the repos for hardy (the next release of ubuntu), but for gutsy you'll have to use some sort of 3rd party repository
[03:51] <xtknight> i just like gedit mostly, nice highlighting, etc
[03:51] <`LePGeL[BoY]> i miss this place
[03:51] <S82> crdlb, got any suggestions to any i can use perhaps? i dont wanna abandon gutsy for hardy :O
[03:51]  * nickrud is itching to get his hands on a hardy rc
[03:51] <zero88> xtknight, ya vim is a little confusing i will try nano
[03:52] <xtknight> just depends on what you're used to i guess
[03:52] <bruenig> just run "vimtutor" you will figure it out
[03:52] <Khisanth> block highlights can be very useful
[03:52] <bruenig> once it does click in about 2 weeks, you will be good to go
[03:52] <chuy_max> scott, why don't u logout and choose another wm
[03:52] <`LePGeL[BoY]> is hardy already out?
[03:52] <xtknight> !hardy
[03:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:52] <usser> S82: yea awn is not included you have to use third party repo
[03:52] <ady> hai cew
[03:52] <scott> chuy_max: I did, I've officially chosen no wm
[03:52] <scott> chuy_max: I log in, I have no window manager
[03:53] <karuna_bd1> !hardy
[03:53] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:53] <scott> but still, pekwm cannot grab the root window -- yet metacity has no problems.  I'm not quite sure what the deal is
[03:53] <amenado> is having a program residing in ramdisk run any faster? or it only meant loading it is faster?
[03:53] <S82> usser, ah well guessi ll just get the tarball
[03:53] <chuy_max> Scolo, how are you logging in, gdm?
[03:54] <nickrud> amenado: load faster, but it's kinda pointless, linux has pretty good caching
[03:54] <Berto> Hi - I'm using brasero to burn my first DVD.  Do I need to include the VIDEO_TS directory on the DVD?  Is that the top level of the path?
[03:54] <chuy_max> scott,
[03:54] <scott> chuy_max:
[03:54] <scott> yeah I'm using gdm
[03:55] <amenado> nickrud i thought so too, i thought someone here mentioned about having a program in ramfs makes it faster, which  i doubted..anyhow...
[03:55] <usser> S82: there's a deb for it hang on
[03:55] <xtknight> kubuntu 7.10 is kde3 right?
[03:55] <Starnestommy> xtknight: it's still 3.5
[03:55] <xtknight> ahh
[03:55] <chuy_max> scott, that's weird, let me see, I'm logging in pekwm, brb
[03:56] <xtknight> Starnestommy, is kde4 usable even?
[03:56] <S82> usser there is? some private repository or public one?
[03:56] <xtknight> out of alpha stage/etc
[03:56] <Starnestommy> xtknight: I've never tried it
[03:57] <usser> S82: here take a look here ignore all the stuff about ati drivers and just follow install tips for awn http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581620
[03:57] <chuy_max> scott, I just logged out, select options-> session-> pekwm, I'm running it right now
[03:57] <scott> chuy_max: I should mention I'm trying to use pekwm with gnome, I had it working previously and have used a setup like that for eons.  But I'm trying to switch back from compiz-fusion to pekwm
[03:57] <usser> S82: I assume you have compiz installed and working?
[03:57] <chuy_max> :o
[03:57] <S82> usser, aye ofcourse :) thanks alot :)
[03:58] <usser> S82: no problem
[03:58] <scott> chuy_max: I've always used pekwm with gnome, but with gutsy I thought I'd try compiz-fusion for a while...and I'm tired of Xgl freezing, so I'm moving back
[03:58] <scott> except I'm not having much bloody luck
[03:58] <evilsense> i wanted to install an irc server and services, which si the best combination
[03:58] <robilive> hi
[03:58] <scott> bah fuck it, I'll just keep using compiz-fusion
[03:59] <karuna_bd1> !language
[03:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:00] <usser> why didn't he just uninstall xgl
[04:01] <SiegeM> Hello
[04:01] <SiegeM> I'm with a problem with my internet connection
[04:02] <SiegeM> It seems that it's okay, but the lookup takes a lot of time
[04:02] <karuna_bd1> anyone played alien arena?
[04:02] <usser> karuna_bd1: yea
[04:02] <usser> karuna_bd1: its quake2 basically
[04:03] <karuna_bd1> usser: is it good? never played quake
[04:04] <usser> karuna_bd1: yea its pretty fast paced and fun, openarena is better though as its based on quake3 engine
[04:05] <karuna_bd1> usser: ok cooll, im gonna install it
[04:05] <Some_Person> Is there a way to play MIDI in XINE (possibly through TiMidity, which works great)?
[04:09] <ninja> hello people, my question is this, how do i revert my system back to before it was updated? running ubuntu 8.04
[04:09] <jrib> ninja: reinstall
[04:10] <jrib> !downgrade | ninja
[04:10] <ubotu> ninja: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[04:10] <ninja> seriously thats my only hope huh?
[04:10] <karuna_bd1> ninja: kill and reinstall
[04:10] <ninja> i dont want to downgrade to an older ubuntu, i just want the updates off
[04:11] <jrib> ninja: then ask in #ubuntu+1.      What permissions are you setting?
[04:15] <cwillu_> ninja, hardy isn't ready for general use yet;  pretty much every place you would have downloaded it should have had warnings to that effect.  Things break on any given day, wireless, sound, x, etc
[04:15] <ninja> it DID work with my hardware, but not now, lost windows cant afford to buy windows again so i thought this linux thing would be cool, but its so broken
[04:15] <Karsyth> jrib: i have to set permissions for my User (Karsyth) to write and read files, that way when i launch ET and make a profile i can SAVE it too. otherwise it doesnt save the profile
[04:15] <Karsyth> jrib: i have to set the permissions for my ET folder and subfolders to be exact
[04:15] <ninja> and ubuntu 7.** wouldnt even install
[04:15] <jrib> Karsyth: type the exact commands you use
[04:15] <Flannel> ninja: Right, but why not use the stable version? Ubuntu 7.10.  Hardy isn't fit for human consumption yet
[04:16] <Karsyth> jrib: im just right clicking the folder
[04:16] <cwillu_> ninja, gutsy was the version to try.  Hardy breaks things that _were_ _working_, as thingsare developped
[04:16] <Flannel> ninja: What wouldn't work with the install of 7.10?
[04:16] <cwillu_> ninja, however, join #ubuntu+1, or reinstall from 7.10
[04:17] <ninja> like i said i dont know how to get to a dif channel, and i am runnin this ubuntu as the other ones didnt work, but im just looking for maybe a website that google hasnt sugested for a nob like me,
[04:18] <bazhang> ninja type /j #ubuntu+1 thanks
[04:18] <Flannel> ninja: The most recent hardy updates broke (for pretty much everyone) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722886
[04:18] <ninja> your welcome, i guess bazhang
[04:18] <scragar> does anyone have an acount for the ubuntu wiki? I have a tip on sound troubleshooting that's not listed, worked for me and another person when nothing else worked, so I think it should be listed
[04:19]  * scragar cannot seem to find a register page for it....
[04:19] <Flannel> scragar: You can create an account.  Ah, let me grab it for you
[04:19] <ninja> see scrager knows my pain, what did you do to fix it scragar?
[04:19] <mkquist> did the new update break something?
[04:19] <scragar> sudo apt-get install asoundconf-gtk && asoundconf-gtk
[04:19] <havenless> any way to make identd report another name?
[04:19] <cwillu_> mkquist, motd :p
[04:19] <mkquist> ty
[04:19] <scragar> select sound card in tiny box, close and suddenly it all worked
[04:20] <bazhang> ninja if you need some help then so be it; there are people willing to help; if you wish to chat then /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <Flannel> scragar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserPreferences
[04:22] <bullgard4> Why opens the MCVIEW(1) manpage if I instruct 'man view' in a Gnome terminal?
[04:23] <ninja> how am i off topic, just want to know how to undo updates?
[04:23] <Flannel> ninja: HARDY is offtopic in this channel.  We've explained how to get into the correct channel a number of times.
[04:23] <JohnRobert> how can I restart alsa on ubuntu 7.10?   Because the issues thats wrong with hardy right now breaks everythign.
[04:24] <bazhang> ninja oy with the language
[04:24] <jrib> ninja: you are using an alpha version.  Ask for help in #ubuntu+1, not here.
[04:24] <ninja> put me on ignore if ya dont like it
[04:24] <Flannel> ninja: We'd really like to see you install 7.10.  We can help you installing that if you'd like.
[04:24] <jiggy> I can't get a gui up, a driver issue I assume?
[04:24] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[04:24] <jrib> ninja: I don't want to ban you.  I want you to get help.  Please follow the rules
[04:24] <gregbrady> ninja, oh my........not good
[04:25] <bazhang> ninja please stop with the language
[04:25] <ninja> i repeat, 7.04 (all 4 burns) dont install, md5 checksum checks out
[04:25] <ninja> but lets pretend that im using 7.04
[04:26] <scragar> :( just my luck, instant I register help.ubuntu stops responding...
[04:26] <Flannel> ninja: What doesn't work about it?
[04:27] <ninja> the install lol, im just sitting here now reading and hoping that someone with the same problem comes along, just ignore me, im done repeating myself
[04:27] <Flannel> ninja: You broke your entire system with the update (on hardy) plain and simple.  Everyone who updated did.  There's not a whole lot we can do for you.
[04:27] <ninja> thats fine, ignore me now, maybe ill see some help come along
[04:27] <jiggy> After putting in a geforce 8800, I can't get the xserver to start, any ideas?
[04:27] <Flannel> ninja: there are a whole bunch of people with the problem who are actually IN #ubuntu+1, and you may be able to get help there.
[04:28]  * Peng apt-get installs diffstat.
[04:28] <Peng> Ubuntu is weird.
[04:28] <havenless> any way to make identd report another name? nobody knows?
[04:28] <ninja> ok well /j ubuntu+1 and /join ubuntu+1 did nothing, so if i could get there i would
[04:28] <scragar> ninja: this that libc6 peoblem?
[04:28] <gregbrady> Peng....why?
[04:28] <Flannel> ninja: You need the # infront of it
[04:29] <Flannel> ninja: /join #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <bazhang> just click the link
[04:29] <ninja> i dont know what that is scragar im sorry i suck, im only using linux to get email, about all its good for as far as i can tell
[04:29] <Flannel> ninja: What doesn't work as far as the 7.04 (preferrably 7.10) install goes?
[04:29] <Peng> gregbrady: That the base install (or at least the DVD) doesn't include random more technical utilities.
[04:29] <gregbrady> ninja....www.microsoft.com.  Go nuts
[04:30] <havenless> lol
[04:30] <gregbrady> Peng, such as?
[04:30] <ninja> they giving away free copies gregbrady?
[04:30] <alanbshepard70> I'm trying to compile and install irxkeys for use with lirc but when I run make I get this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llirc_client Anyone know how to fix it?
[04:30] <gregbrady> ninja, so you want free.....
[04:30] <scragar> ninja: just asking, cos there's a thread about it in the forums, and some people found solutions there.
[04:30] <gregbrady> ninja....and people to becon to your every need.  On your schedule....
[04:31] <bazhang> gregbrady: ease up okay?
[04:31] <gregbrady> sorry....just annoying.
[04:31] <ZeD--> howdy
[04:31] <ninja> your annoying
[04:31] <orudie> irc beef !!!
[04:32] <ouellettesr> hello has anyone tried ubuntu mobile yet?
[04:32] <jiggy> can I get some help with my graphics card?
[04:32] <jiggy> xserver doesn't seem to like it
[04:32] <scragar> jiggy: what kind of graphics card is it?
[04:32] <jrib> ninja: I suggest you read the link I sent you earlier
[04:32] <bazhang> jiggy: what card and waht driver and how installed please
[04:32] <jiggy> geforce 8800
[04:33] <jiggy> no drivers, to the best of my knowlege
[04:33] <bazhang> jiggy the 512MB one?
[04:33] <jiggy> yeah
[04:33] <macogw> how do i make sudo stop saying "password for $name:"?
[04:33] <ninja> you sent me a link? dont bother, im just here to see if anyone shares my issue, not to chat
[04:33] <macogw> i want it to just say "password:"
[04:33] <ouellettesr> if anyone has tried ubuntu mobile yet i woul dlike to ask a couple questions
[04:33] <Peng> gregbrady: Such as diffstat. And host, I think. whois?
[04:33] <jiggy> last time I put a new graphics card in everything just worked fine, then asked if I wanted to use a restricted driver
[04:33] <jiggy> this time around, I can't get a gui up
[04:34] <EruditeHermit> hey, I just installed alpha 6 hardy, and I want to enable desktop effects with the ati open source driver but visual effects won't let me. It tries to install the fglrx closed driver if select the desktop effects. Is there a way around this? Also when I am typing the scim pops up and randomly changes the language.
[04:34] <Flannel> ninja: We've told you.  Yes, lots of people do.  They're all in the proper channel talking about it, and working through it right now, without you.
[04:34] <Flannel> EruditeHermit: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[04:34] <figuringout> hi, i was trying to follow instructions to transfer files to my Nokia N72 using obexftp
[04:34] <bazhang> jiggy what resolution does your monitor support and what do you have it set at?
[04:34] <figuringout> obexftp -u command fails, from the forums.
[04:34] <jiggy> fourteen by nine, I'm not sure what it's set at though
[04:35] <jiggy> I was using vga with onboard graphics when I switched
[04:35] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[04:35] <jiggy> I just noticed that in my xserv log file though, it says no screens were detected when it fails
[04:35] <bazhang> jiggy do you get a message like out of range or somesuch?
[04:35] <jiggy> lemme take a look through my log
[04:35] <condor> anyone here do a net boot?
[04:36] <bazhang> condor you mean the minimal install or something else
[04:36] <Zimbo> Hello... I've noticed that while this machine (Acer 4520 w/Ubuntu 7.1) works fine with regular sounds (I can play MP3's just fine and AlsaMixer runs), the regular "system beep" (such as when you hit backspace on an empty command line) doesn't sound (nor does the "beep" program work).  Any ideas why?
[04:37] <gregbrady> Peng, you can d/l diffstat
[04:37] <condor> no a network boot
[04:37] <gregbrady> Peng, from the Synaptic Package Manager
[04:37] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me out, I just built a brand new machine and I supplanted my old existing hard-drives, now I'm getting Grub Error 21 on boot up
[04:38] <gregbrady> Peng, it only takes a few moments
[04:38] <condor> grub error means it wasnt set up properly
[04:38] <jiggy> ok, a couple of times I get something like PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource
[04:38] <Lovecats> hi all does anyone know where i can get more visualizations for Totem?
[04:38] <PurpZeY> condor: It was working 100% perfectly on my old box.
[04:38] <jiggy> along with setting mode [resolution] failed
[04:39] <Lovecats> or can u suggest an MP3 player that has better visualizations?
[04:39] <jiggy> I grabbed a driver from nvidia with lynx, but figured I should ask around here before trying to install it
[04:39] <condor> did you reinstall?
[04:39] <usurpergoat> i need help...  i wasn't downloading anything and my harddrive filled up
[04:40] <usurpergoat> i don't know how to figure out where the space went
[04:40] <PurpZeY> condor: No, I had a dual boot on two hard-drives...I just built this new machine and moved the two hard-drives over instead of putting in new ones.
[04:40] <gregbrady> Peng, did you check it out?
[04:40] <condor> oh, well the harware is different so it sees a diff machine best bet is to reinstall
[04:41] <PurpZeY> condor: but I don't want to lose my data....Isn't there a way to fix that?
[04:41] <quakky_> hey guys ubuntu isnt detecing my soundcard
[04:41] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: you probably can find it by type in your terminal ... df -h
[04:41] <quakky_> I tried alot of "solutions" but it doesnt seem to work
[04:41] <condor> yea dont reformat
[04:41] <quakky_> the sound worked fine, but then i think i updated, and things hit the fan and spread all over the living room
[04:42] <ninja> im having the same issue quakky
[04:42] <PurpZeY> condor: So, just run the liveCD, hit install, but don't reformat? Will that mess with my dual-boot?
[04:42] <condor> no just do the guided install but no reformat
[04:42] <quakky_> by having, u mean u still didnt find a solution right?
[04:42] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:  SDA2 100%   which is correct, i have a dual boot system
[04:42] <quakky_> what kinda soundcard do u have?
[04:43] <ninja> right
[04:43] <gregbrady> Peng?
[04:43] <condor> i mean yea to the livecd
[04:43] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: what was filling up? /var? /usr? /?
[04:43] <PurpZeY> condor: That will set up grub and everything as well?
[04:43] <condor> yup
[04:43] <ninja> not sure, this is a laptop, but i m sure its an onboard intell soundcard
[04:43] <condor> and install all the new drivers
[04:43] <usurpergoat> it doesn't say
[04:44] <quakky_> i have a desktop...with intel chipset..but the soundcard i guess u can call it onboard
[04:44] <PurpZeY> condor: I didn't think there was a necessity for that, but I will take care of that as well.
[04:44] <techt0nix> how do i burn a ISO as a image file
[04:44] <quakky_> I have asus maximus motherboard, that comes with a pc-e x1 soundcard....
[04:44] <cwillu> techno_freak, right click on it
[04:44] <IcemanV9> ??? it should show you the report file system disk space usage
[04:45] <bazhang> techt0nix: right click open with cd/dvd creator
[04:45] <M__> hey went to update to hardy and my laptop battery died part way through. I can't log in through the gui and I did dpkg --configure -a and now errors were encountered when processing: policykig, hal, gnome-mount, ubuntu-desktop, gnome-session, and more what should i do?
[04:45] <techt0nix> bazhang, ty
[04:45] <inssight> how do i take all rights away from a user except read
[04:45] <Flannel> M__: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[04:45] <cwillu> M__, -> #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: /dev/sda2  37G  100% in use, mounted on /
[04:46] <bazhang> M__: #ubuntu+1 for that please ;]
[04:46] <condor> yea your new machine has diff components so it needs new drivers
[04:46] <bazhang> haha
[04:46] <figuringout> any help with getting my nokia n72 working?
[04:46] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: it doesn't give me any more detail
[04:46] <figuringout> obexftp / wammu failed
[04:46] <jiggy> ok, it looks like in the forums others have gotten the 8800 working with latest drivers
[04:46] <jiggy> I don't know why my xserver won't start though
[04:46] <inssight> and if possible, reading form only home dir and a specific directory on the system
[04:46] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: in / directory ... wow. did you try to install or update when it happened?
[04:47] <bazhang> jiggy yeah the drivers are fine with that card; it is really nice apparently ;]
[04:47] <bazhang> jiggy likley you need to install them and reconfigure xorg before that will happen
[04:47] <techno_freak> inssight, chmod -wx+r foobar
[04:48] <quakky_> ninja: when u run 'alsamixer' do u get function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:48] <gregbrady> Peng, I hope you found what you were looking for!  If not, just ask here, a great bunch of people can help you out.
[04:48] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: no, the only thing i was doing was listening to MP3 with Xmms and using Rdesktop.  then i got a pop up that said 100% full
[04:48] <quakky_> ninja: ?
[04:48] <jiggy> should I tackle that from the command line, or unplug the card?
[04:48] <ninja> not sure, ill try it and paste the results
[04:48] <bazhang> jiggy can you boot up in vesa?
[04:48] <jiggy> vesa?
[04:48] <inssight> techno_freak,  so that takes away write, execute, and adds read?
[04:48] <bazhang> the low res mode jiggy?
[04:49] <techno_freak> inssight, yes
[04:49] <jiggy> is that an option from grub?
[04:49] <t-rex> is it possible to update gnome to 2.2?
[04:49] <inssight> would i create a group for the user where the group is only allowed in a certain directory?
[04:49] <techno_freak> inssight, use o-wx+r for others
[04:49] <ninja> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[04:49] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: okay. /tmp might be filled up.
[04:50] <quakky_> ninja: ya im getting the same crap...
[04:50] <ninja> time to go distrohoping again, maybe one will work, eventualy lol
[04:50] <techno_freak> inssight, you can create a group, make the file owned by the group and make something like g-wx+r o-rwx
[04:50] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: in the terminal, type sudo aptitude autoclean
[04:51] <stevendemorez> hiya all I'm having problems with my v4l compatible webcam a program trying to grab from it is showing this error in the terminal VDIOCGCHAN: Invalid argument
[04:51] <jrib> ninja: use a stable ubuntu release...
[04:51] <quakky_> ninja: I think im giving up on ubuntu....thank god i duel boot..cuz i can go back to XP anytime
[04:51] <stevendemorez> if anyone can think of possible reasoning behind it
[04:51] <ninja> i thought hopefully someone would help you so id know how to fix my issue quakky, oh well, tried alot of forums, came up with nothing
[04:51] <sCOTTo> hey can oneone tell me where to look to find out what would be blocking my SWAT from being viewable in the browser ?
[04:51] <inssight> what about making a whole directory for the group, is this step even necessary? can i just add a list of allowed dirs for the users prexisting group? ?
[04:51] <bazhang> heh and the wrong #channel
[04:51] <ninja> i wish i could, but i cant afford to
[04:51] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: hopefully it will clean up/remove old stuff
[04:51] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: lol, freed 0b of disk space
[04:51] <quakky_> jrib: u saying 7.10 is not "stable"?
[04:51] <prince_jammys> techno_freak: yeah, but if the user owns the file, can't he/she change the permissions?
[04:52] <jrib> quakky_: ninja is not using 7.10
[04:52] <jiggy> how do I boot in low res mode?
[04:52] <bazhang> quakky_: he's not using 7.10 ;]
[04:52] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: how about this one ... sudo aptitude clean
[04:52] <ninja> but we have the same issue, so the same fix will work
[04:52] <bazhang> not so ninja
[04:52] <quakky_> jrib: well i guess that makes 7.10 unstable too..cuz im getting the same error even though sound worked find yesterday lol
[04:52] <techno_freak> prince_jammys, there should be some one able to change permissions, that's why i did not tell anything about user permissions, let him decide
[04:53] <prince_jammys> plus, if you change all files in the user's dir to read-only, the user might not even be able to log in
[04:53] <bullgard4> Why opens the MCVIEW(1) manpage, if I instruct 'man view' in a Gnome terminal?
[04:53] <inssight> techno_freak, what about making a whole directory for the group, is this step even necessary? can i just add a list of allowed dirs for the users prexisting group? ?
[04:53] <jrib> quakky_: "no sound" is caused by many different things
[04:54] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:  there was no output referencing drive space..  when i type df -h i still got 100% full
[04:54] <techno_freak> inssight, i do not know the problem you are trying to solve
[04:54] <petercoh7> Can someone answer - what are some of the things that will prevent compiz "cube" from working ?
[04:54] <bazhang> inssight: could you specify a bit more please? which directory etc
[04:55] <condor> anyone here ever done a netboot with ubuntu?
[04:55] <quakky_> jrib: well for me, my ubuntu doesnt detect my soundcard..when i do that command to see the audio devices installed  i get this.."aplay: device_list:204: no soundcards found..."
[04:55] <bazhang> condor how are you attempting this?
[04:56] <jrib> !sound > quakky_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:56] <condor> running a tftp server and then trying to get the laptop to see the server
[04:56] <inssight> ok, well i have a directory on my computer i would like for my friend to be able to browse freely whenever he pleases, via ssh however i only want him to be able to access that directory, and his home dir
[04:56] <jrib> quakky_: I don't know much about sound, but I can point you to the standard sound troubleshooting page
[04:56] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: in the terminal, sudo du -sh /tmp
[04:56] <olskolirc> hi hi
[04:56] <jiggy> how do I boot in vesa?
[04:56] <inssight> and not be able to modify any files or execute anything unless it's in his home dir
[04:57] <olskolirc> anyone know a good pdf reader where I can highlight my text in cool yellow and make notes within the reader?
[04:57] <techno_freak> inssight, and this other directory outside his home directory?
[04:57] <inssight> yes, correct
[04:57] <quakky_> jrib: I have done everything but compile my own audio driver
[04:57] <quakky_> jrib: if that's what i gotta do then im reinstalling ubuntu
[04:57] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: 728k
[04:58] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[04:58] <condor> but when the laptop looks for the tftp it soesnt find the server
[04:58] <olskolirc> reinstall quakky_ ?
[04:58] <ninja> hey quakky, did you download any software or just the updates?
[04:58] <olskolirc> what's wrong quakky_ ?
[04:58] <Meshezabeel> I suddenly cannot see video in any video program (totem, mplayer, vlc, cinelerra, etc.) I can hear the audio, but cannot see the video, it doesn't matter on the video type, avi, mpeg, dv, etc. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[04:58] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: use sudo du -sh each directory until you find one is so large, then go there and find the largest file
[04:58] <condor> you dont have the codecs?
[04:59] <olskolirc> sounds like you need the w32codecs Meshezabeel
[04:59] <Meshezabeel> condor, I do have the codecs
[04:59] <quakky_> olskolirc: long story short..sound worked yesterday ..i did something..soundcard doesnt get detected today..followed all steps and searched the forums
[04:59] <Meshezabeel> the videos were always working until just recently
[04:59] <PurpZeY> What's the exact command to reconfigure x, I changed gfx cards and x won't start?
[04:59] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: ok,   thanks... youve put me on the right path
[04:59] <ninja> dido for me on that olsklirc
[05:00] <smatt> [matt@zeus iso]$ md5sum ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:00] <smatt> d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c  ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:00] <smatt> is this correct?
[05:00] <rabiddachshund> I'm having a problem with vsftp. I can download but not upload. Any ideas?
[05:00] <olskolirc> did you try alsoconf quakky_ ?  you have to download it then just run alsaconf in the terminal
[05:00] <Meshezabeel> olskolirc, I do have the w32codecs
[05:00] <condor> etc/x11/x11.conf or soemthing
[05:00] <condor> xorg.conf
[05:00] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: alright. good luck in finding it.
[05:01] <jrib> !md5sums > smatt (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:01] <olskolirc> Meshezabeel when all else fails, I dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then reapply my nvidia restricted driver
[05:01] <quakky_> olskolirc: no I actually havnt..ill try to figure out how to download it and run it
[05:01] <Meshezabeel> condor, my xorg.conf file has not been changed
[05:01] <ninja> shoot i just tried alsoconf, said command not found
[05:01] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:  any ones i might wanna check first?
[05:01] <olskolirc> that happened to me before Meshezabeel
[05:01] <condor> no that was for PurpZeY
[05:01] <Meshezabeel> olskolirc, okay, thanks will give that a try
[05:01] <PurpZeY> condor: but there is a command sudo dpkg recongfigure xserver xorg or something like that...b/c I need to use a different driver.
[05:01] <condor> sorry didnt spcify
[05:01] <Meshezabeel> con-man, ah, sorry :)
[05:02] <Meshezabeel> condor, lol
[05:02] <olskolirc> quakky down load it like this: sudo apt-get install alsaconf
[05:02] <inssight> sorry guys but i have to run.. i'll post on the forums later
[05:02] <smatt> seriously, can someone verify the md5's for me? I can't find them on the ubuntu.com website
[05:02] <condor> oh you mean to totally reconfigure the card
[05:02] <PurpZeY> !dpkg
[05:02] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[05:02] <jrib> smatt: I just linked you to them.  Check your private messages
[05:02] <smatt> i even searched "md5 sum" and it yielded no results
[05:02] <pajamian> smatt: they are in the same place where you downloaded th eiso
[05:03] <bullgard4> How long takes Tracker to index all files (e-mail, /home and /usr/src)? Mine keeps working for hours. It seems to be broken.
[05:03] <olskolirc> anyone know a good pdf reader where I can highlight my text in cool yellow and make notes within the reader?
[05:03] <smatt> jrib: I didn't get a msg
[05:03] <jrib> !md5sums | smatt
[05:03] <ubotu> smatt: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[05:03] <smatt> ubotu: thanks
[05:03] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:03] <pajamian> olskolirc: the only program that I know of that lets you make notes on a pdf is flpsed, and it doesn't let you highlight.
[05:03] <henno> Linux henno 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:03] <henno> but only one core is shown
[05:03] <tritium> bullgard4: it always runs, I believe
[05:03] <henno> any ideas?
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Can someone please tell me the command for reconfiguring x. I just bought a new video card and I can't start x....I know it's sudo dpkg reconfigure, I think it's xserver xorg? Anyone?
[05:04] <smatt> jrib: : thanks :)
[05:04] <quakky_> olskolirc: sudo apt-get install alsaconf doesnt work
[05:04] <olskolirc> cool pajamian that's a start
[05:04] <henno> q6600 processor
[05:04] <tritium> PurpZeY: xserver-xorg
[05:04] <jrib> !xconfig > purpzey (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:04] <prince_jammys> smatt: from the internet, i got d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c
[05:04] <olskolirc> it doesn't quakky_ ?  let me try
[05:04] <ninja> didnt work for me either quakky
[05:04] <olskolirc> wow they took out alsaconf
[05:05] <PurpZeY> How do I know which driver to use for my new card?
[05:05] <pajamian> olskolirc: also, it actually works on .ps files, but it has an internal importer and exporter (which doesn't always work, I've had to manually convert with pdftops at times).
[05:05] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:  /var   31G    i think i found it.. lol
[05:05] <bullgard4> tritium: No, this would be evil. Only the trackerd is a process that does not stop. But it usually sleeps.
[05:05] <tritium> bullgard4: I'm not sure.  I don't use it.
[05:05] <PurpZeY> How do I know if it's nv or nvidia?
[05:05] <smatt> ok so check this. i burned that iso using k3b with the verify data option checked. i pop it in the desktop to install (with a freshly dban'd hard drive) and i can't get the thing to run. it throws I/O and read errors out
[05:05] <condor> nv is nvidia
[05:06] <bullgard4> tritium: Thank you for commenting.
[05:06] <olskolirc> I was reading about ps files today.  I don't know if I'll ever have any use for them pajamian ?  what's it like?
[05:06] <smatt> I've tried with the generic ide options
[05:06] <tritium> PurpZeY: that depends on if you want the open-source or proprietary drivers.
[05:06] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: mine is only 184M    /var
[05:06] <tritium> bullgard4: sure
[05:06] <smatt> still same thing
[05:06] <PurpZeY> tritium: Whichever works....
[05:06] <tritium> PurpZeY: try nv first, then.
[05:06] <smatt> so can i burn this same iso to my flash drive instead, to rule out it's my cdrom?
[05:07] <quakky_> olskolirc: i cant see any point in spending over 3 hours trying to solve my sound issue..i could have reinstalled and updated ubuntu 3 times ...
[05:07] <tritium> PurpZeY: i.e, they should both work, but if you don't specifically need nvidia, stick with nv
[05:07] <crdlb> PurpZeY: you need nvidia if you want 3d acceleration though
[05:07] <pajamian> olskolirc: the thing about PDF is it's designed to not be modifiable, it's a sort of "electronic paper" format...
[05:08] <olskolirc> quakky_ why don't you try the update button on the update manager.  that usually fixes things
[05:08] <pajamian> olskolirc: so you will be hard pressed to find any program that can edit them.  flpsed does about as good of a job as I've seen, and it can only add text, it can't remove anything.
[05:08] <henno> can anyone help me out?? q6600, SMP kernel, but only one core showing up
[05:08] <ninja> olskolirc thats what screwed quakky and i up is the updateing thing
[05:08] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: something was filling up by either playing the app or updating went wrong. keep looking in /var especially /var/tmp and /var/cache. depends on what du -sh tells ya
[05:08] <CVD-PR> Hey there, its there  a way to know the last time i log-on?
[05:08] <olskolirc> or even go into software sources and find out what broke
[05:09] <smatt> i see the article on lifehacker, but it specifies ubuntu-live.
[05:09] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: something in /var/backup   its at 31G also
[05:09] <PurpZeY> crdlb: I have a larger issue though. X failed to start, I believe b/c I specified the card in the wrong location...It's in PCI Express...What would that location be called xserver-xorg ?
[05:09] <blind> hey, can an op PM me, my friend is banned and doesn't know why
[05:09] <olskolirc> ohhh ok ninja
[05:09] <smatt> i figure the same could be done with the desktop?
[05:09] <quakky_> olskolirc: im pretty sure i have the most updated version of linux,...and like Ninja said I had sound yesterday..updated today (cuz i was having graphics issues) and i couldnt hear anything
[05:09] <jrib> blind: join #ubuntu-ops
[05:09] <blind> k, thanks
[05:09] <olskolirc> then apt-get deselect-upgrade
[05:09] <CVD-PR> ?
[05:09] <ninja> yeah, and i think this holds true for quakky also, but it dosent even recognise that there is a sound card
[05:10] <olskolirc> there was no better release then fiesty fawn if you ask me
[05:10] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: okay. you're getting there. did u use backup app? or script?
[05:10] <ninja> sorry quakky, dont mean to speak for ya, but we are having the exact same issue, i knew i wasnt alone lol
[05:10] <pajamian> olskolirc: and if you print from linux then you use ps files.
[05:10] <olskolirc> ohhh ok pajamian
[05:10] <quakky_> well apt-get deselect-upgrade doesnt work either
[05:10] <bazhang> ninja yours was an update to hardy; different from quakky_'s issue
[05:10] <olskolirc> oh wow
[05:11] <stevendemorez> could anyone tell me how to access and manipulate my webcam so I don't get a chan error?
[05:11] <quakky_> i think im gonna go boot up windows xp...*sigh*
[05:12] <condor> xp....
[05:12] <olskolirc> how is hardy?
[05:12] <persib> -4--]
[05:12] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9
[05:12] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: apparently so.. lol there are backup files from 1 year ago..
[05:12] <condor> quakky_,  you are using sudo right?
[05:12] <quakky_> ya
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me reconfigure x properly to start with my new video card. I am getting "Failed to initialize device" and Screens found, but none have usuable configuration
[05:13] <quakky_> im putting sudo apt-get deselect-upgrade ..thats how u do it right?
[05:13] <danny> can anyone help me learn how to install programs
[05:13] <PurpZeY> danny: You can install programs 3 different ways.
[05:13] <PurpZeY> danny: 4 really.
[05:13] <bazhang> jiggy: could you hit ctrol alt f1 when you get the black screen and try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !repositories > danny read the message from ubotu
[05:14] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: ok. you need to decide to remove it or not. or move it to another place such as external drive (if you have one).
[05:14] <bazhang> danny: sudo apt-get install packagename after you have the repos enabled and refreshed/reloaded
[05:14] <henno> anyone have a q6600 and can help a dude out?
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking synaptic would be a better way for someone that knows NOTHING about installing
 the only reason i probably going back to xp (for the 2nd time) is because xp doesnt require u to spend 2 days trying to get ur graphics card and sound card to work .... it's all about the drivers..
[05:15] <condor> ive never had probs with grfx or sound cards
[05:15] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: nah, i just want to delete them  im in the directory now as root...   whats the command to delete?
[05:15] <quakky_> well i probably do cuz the hardware i got is pretty new
[05:16] <ninja> what kind of equipment you using condor, or do you have a phd in programming
[05:16] <quakky_> lol
[05:16] <condor> ive been hacking for 25 yrs...
[05:16] <petercoh8> hi, can someone help me with compiz ?  I have an onboard Intel graphics controller and I'm wondering if it will work at all
[05:17] <ninja> ah ok
[05:17] <condor> its not rocket science
[05:17] <PurpZeY> petercoh8: It can work depending on the card and how much ram you have...it's sort of slow.
[05:17] <thiefness> petercoh8: i have an intel mobile graphics card and it works with compiz
[05:17] <ninja> no its more complex than that
[05:17] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot condor this might help; if not I have one other link for you
[05:17] <condor> bazhang, ill check that out
[05:17] <ninja> like when installing from tar and the dependancies need dependencies
[05:17] <petercoh8> I've got 1GB Ram
[05:17] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet this is it condor
[05:18] <petercoh8> and it's an 82865G Intel Controller
[05:18] <SisyphusINC> how do you enable dvd playback in ubuntu?
[05:18] <PurpZeY> Can anyone help me get x started with dpkg-reconfigure...I just installed a new gfx card and I can't get any GUI at all...I think I gave dpkg the right settings so I don't know why it's failing
[05:18] <jrib> !dvd > SisyphusINC (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:18] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: to play safe .. rm -i *.<filename extension>  (it'll ask you before remove)
[05:18] <bazhang> petercoh8: the experts in #compiz-fusion can sort that in no time ;]
[05:18] <condor> ok cool the first one i read not the second thanks bazhang
[05:18] <petercoh8> hey thanks
[05:18] <ninja> whats this private message from ubotu?
[05:19] <PurpZeY> It's secret.
[05:19] <bazhang> condor sorry to keep you waiting
[05:19] <quakky_> it's when u do things like !sound
[05:19] <condor> no its cool
[05:19] <ninja> !sound
[05:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:20] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: rm: cannot remove directory `2007-03-12_<IP_ADDRESS>818.supergoat-laptop.inc': Is a directory
[05:20] <SisyphusINC> why is the a diagonal break across my video playback?
[05:20] <bazhang> ah ninja? the sound issue for hardy #ubuntu+1 is a bit different, okay? there are actual people in there right now troubleshooting it if you really want to get that fixed
[05:20] <tritium> ninja: wrong channel for Hardy.  You've been told before!
[05:21] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: that's okay ... i will tell you how to remove that dir after you finished empty out /var/backup
[05:21] <ninja> what tritium? im not talking/typing
[05:21] <bazhang> heh
[05:21] <PurpZeY> This is the last time I will repeat, so I am sorry...But, is there anyone who can please help me with a dpkg-reconfigure in order to get my new gfx card working...I am stuck in CLI and I don't know how to fix it.
[05:22] <bazhang> PurpZeY: you stuck with out X?
[05:22] <tritium> PurpZeY: state the question
[05:23] <olskolirc> PurpZeY dpkg-reconfigure <your X display
[05:23] <PurpZeY> tritium: I just installed a new graphics card. X will not start. I tried walking through reconfigure to no avail and I don't really know exactly what settings in reconfigure I need to make it work again
[05:23] <bullgard4> Is 'kill -9 15904' the proper syntax to stop Tracker from indexing?
[05:23] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:  i got it now.  :D   rm -r  *.inc
[05:23] <olskolirc> FliesLikeABrick: dpkg-reconfiger xerver-xorg
[05:23] <tritium> PurpZeY: did you select nv, as I told you?
[05:23] <stevendemorez> I'm getting a vdiocgchan: invalid argument line after any v4l dov4l queries to my webcam... any ideas as to how to alleviate this?
[05:23] <olskolirc> oops
[05:23] <PurpZeY> tritium: I tried both nv and nvidia
[05:23] <nix_chix0r> I think people should check this link out. http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=pbrcxtwqob if that doesn't simplify linux nothing will. imo
[05:23] <tritium> PurpZeY: then what?
[05:23] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: ok. you got it. :P
[05:23] <olskolirc> my irc just went ballistic on me
[05:24] <olskolirc> ok PurpZeY I have it
[05:24] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:now i just have to turn off that backup..   thanks a million, i had no idea on how to figure out where all my disk space was going.
[05:24] <PurpZeY> tritium: Then I followed the the reconfigure and I got "Failed to initialize..." "Screens found but no configuration." I can tell you what other erros you need to know but I can't paste it b/c I have no way of doing so.
[05:24] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: got lots of space back now?
[05:24] <tritium> PurpZeY: understood
[05:24] <olskolirc> PurpZeY do: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then reapply your nvidia driver in restricted drivers
[05:24] <bazhang> PurpZeY: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:24] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: but i knew i wasn't crazy when my HD kept getting fuller and fuller...
[05:24] <bazhang> oops
[05:25] <PurpZeY> olskolirc: I am in feisty...
[05:25] <olskolirc> it should still work PurpZeY but I don't know about reapplying the restriced nvidia driver part.  I don't remember
[05:26] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9: 239M in /var now
[05:26] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: i have seen it quite often at work; sometimes i get paged when the disk is 100% full
[05:26] <PurpZeY> olskolirc: That should not be an issue for me b/c I am in fiesty. I don't have restricted drivers manager...I know the issue you speak of.
[05:26] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: now that looks right.
[05:27] <usurpergoat> IcemanV9:  thanks again, time for bed.  cya
[05:27] <olskolirc> I loved fiesty but I'm spoiled on Gutsy now.  ever think about upgrading PurpZeY ?
[05:27] <quakky_> alright guys im outta here..thanks for the help.. but 1 last question..should i post on the forums to try to get a solution?
[05:27] <IcemanV9> usurpergoat: terrific. have a good night.
[05:27] <bazhang> PurpZeY: indeed would be worth an upgrade
[05:27] <PurpZeY> olskolirc: I'd consider it, but I like my setup and I don't like risking things. That being said atm my priority is to get *something* working
[05:27] <bazhang> quakky_: for alsa?
[05:28] <olskolirc> yes quakky_ post
[05:28] <quakky_> bazhang: ya
[05:28] <quakky_> olskolirc: ok
[05:28] <bazhang> quakky_: some really brilliant folks in #alsa
[05:28] <PurpZeY> bazhang: Like I said, it would be something I'd consider....if feisty was working...atm I have CLI...
[05:28] <olskolirc> oh im sorry PurpZeY i forgot, what was broke again?
[05:29] <bazhang> PurpZeY: get the alternate cd that will do the trick; www.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <quakky_> bazhang: oh good idea..ill join that channel see if they can do something
[05:29] <PurpZeY> olskolirc: I just put a new gfx card into my machine...now I got no x. They are both nvidia cards this one is just much better.
[05:29] <PurpZeY> bazhang: While I appreciate the advice I would hope that the fix for the problem isn't, upgrade, that will fix it for sure.
[05:29] <bazhang> quakky_: a bit quiet at times, but they will get it sorted when they are awake ;]
[05:30] <Karsyth> i cant figure out how to search a folder for all files it contains. can anyone help?
[05:30] <olskolirc> oh yes, PurpZeY : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you'll be fine
[05:30] <PurpZeY> olskolirc: I did that
[05:30] <PurpZeY> olskolirc: Perhaps I am missing a step in that process....which is sort of what I've been asking
[05:30] <olskolirc> ewwww bad
[05:30] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: what card is it?
[05:30] <bazhang> finally
[05:30] <olskolirc> I don't know PurpZeY
[05:31] <olskolirc> download nvidia (new)
[05:31] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: GEForce 8800 GT
[05:32] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: That change the situation at all?
[05:32] <olskolirc> I have an issue nobody can solve.  I have a projector for my monitor on an 80 inch hdtv wall hang.  I want it to spread out more.  Do I adjust the params in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?  I'm scared
[05:33] <olskolirc> to make it wider to fit
[05:33] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: no idea, i'm looking in google :)
[05:33] <bmac2> I have untunt and kubuntu installed on several machines, but I am having issues with my dell server
[05:33] <quakky_> bazhang: lol seems #alsa is kinda dead
[05:33] <bmac2> I can install every distro / OS on it except for ubuntu/kubuntu get a squashfs error
[05:33] <bmac2> part of the way through the install
[05:33] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: Good idea. If I don't get a fix soon, I'll kick it around tomorrow I guess....But maybe you'll turn up something...Shoulda do it myself.
[05:34] <bmac2> anyone seen this before?
[05:34] <bazhang> quakky_: hehe well I warned you; but when they are awake they can fix most things in short order
[05:34] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: you don't have envy installed right?
[05:34] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: No.
[05:34] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: ok good.
[05:34] <bmac2> I tried the aic7xxx.aic7xxx=no_probe switch
[05:34] <bazhang> phew
[05:34] <quakky_> bazhang: alright..well it wont hurt to post the problem on the ubuntu forums, and thats what im planning on doing. thanks
[05:35] <bazhang> quakky_: okay; sorry I stink at fixing sound problems
[05:36] <ashwini> hi
[05:36] <olskolirc> wouldn't envy be a good thing prince_jammys ?
[05:36] <PurpZeY> !envy
[05:36] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:36] <olskolirc> ohhh i see
[05:37] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: is this what you get?:
[05:37] <prince_jammys> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!
[05:37] <prince_jammys>  (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
[05:37] <grizlo42> hello
[05:37] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: YES!
[05:37] <grizlo42> i am having an apache crisis
[05:37] <grizlo42> i deleted a folder in var/www/
[05:37] <grizlo42> and then added a new folder
[05:37] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: you know how to browse the web from CLI?
[05:37] <PurpZeY> No.
[05:38] <grizlo42> and when i go to local host, the new folder doesn´t appear
[05:38] <quakky_> btw guys when is the next big upgrade happening to ubuntu? i heard it was like less than a month
[05:38] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: use www-browser or install "elinks" for nicer display
[05:38] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665018
[05:38] <chuy_max> PriceChild, w3m?
[05:38] <grizlo42> and the folder i reset contents of came up with an error, saying index.php can´t be found
[05:38] <grizlo42> and i know it is in there
[05:38] <PurpZeY> Out of curiosity....Just to complicate the issue...I did more than update my gfx card. I actually rebuilt my machine completely and supplanted the harddrives....Might I be better off just installing over my current install?
[05:38] <grizlo42> anyone know what to do?
[05:38] <grizlo42> i reset cache
[05:38] <grizlo42> everything
[05:38] <chuy_max> prince_jammys, w3m?
[05:39] <prince_jammys> chuy_max: that too
[05:39] <bazhang> PurpZeY: that can be fixed as well most likely; just need to setup grub again
[05:39] <TonyWong> Is the wifi setup via CLI under Ubuntu and gOS same?
[05:39] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: check out that thread.  you can do :  www-browser http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665018
[05:40] <bazhang> TonyWong: the ifconfig iwconfig sudo dhclient eth0 etc like that?
[05:40] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys, bazhang: grub is working fine. But it is literally a brand new computer....Maybe a fresh install would be better
[05:40] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 TonyWong this is the ubuntu cli way ;]
[05:41] <grizlo42> pls anyone?
[05:41] <TonyWong> thx
[05:41] <grizlo42> i really need this by tomorrow
[05:41] <bazhang> PurpZeY: never reinstall when you can spend hours in here ;]
[05:42] <chuy_max> grizlo42, create an index.html in /var/www
[05:42] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: if you want ... but you should be able to fix this problem without reinstalling. if looking online from CLI is annoying, boot from live CD
[05:42] <bullgard4> Is 'kill -9 15904' the proper syntax to stop Tracker from indexing?
[05:42] <bazhang> grizlo42: have you tried #apache ?
[05:42] <chuy_max> and type localhost grizlo42 in firefox
[05:42] <PurpZeY> bazhang: No, I'm serious....I am asking a real question....I built literally scrapped my entire machine except for my hard-drives....Now also Ubuntu isn't recognizing my network card....Is a new install a better way to go?
[05:43] <chuy_max> grizlo42, does it work?
[05:43] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: Ubuntu is not recognizing my network card either.
[05:43] <bazhang> PurpZeY: I am serious too (except for the length of time); that should be fixable; one problem at a time though
[05:43] <olskolirc> oh hell PurpZeY at that point scrap it all lol
[05:44] <grizlo42> yeah
[05:44] <grizlo42> the index.html thing works
[05:44] <olskolirc> I was fooling around with kde4 the other day and messed my system up really bad
[05:44] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, thanks, I ran dpkg-reconfigure, and removed the nvidia proprietary drivers. Video playback now works fine, however, when I re-enable the nvidia drivers, I just get a black screen on videos again.
[05:44] <chuy_max> grizlo42, ok, rename it for index.php, what happens?
[05:44] <olskolirc> I had to uninstall kde and reinstall kde and kubuntu to get it back
[05:44] <grizlo42> let me try
[05:44] <olskolirc> thank god my files systems were still there and all my hard work
[05:45] <PurpZeY> Different question: If I install without formatting, will Ubuntu still have my files present?
[05:45] <stevendemorez> is there a v4l2 wrapper or something to make your device compatible to v4l programs
[05:45] <bazhang> PurpZeY: if it is a rather fresh install then just reinstalling would be a good choice, but if you have tons of data you want to save then you might want to try fixing it; just something to consider
[05:45] <PurpZeY> bazhang: I was under the impression that if I reinstalled without reformatting I wouldn't lose data.
[05:45] <grizlo42> it still works
[05:45] <bazhang> PurpZeY: seperate /home partition?
[05:45] <grizlo42> if rename it
[05:46] <PurpZeY> bazhang: That the only way....Otherwise if I install over I'm out of it?
[05:46] <chuy_max> grizlo42, ok, so problem solved, isn't it?
[05:46] <TrustNoOne> how can i change the permission of /usr/share/azureus so that i can write to it, so that azureus can do updates without running as root?
[05:47] <Meshezabeel1> any more ideas olskolirc?
[05:47] <bazhang> PurpZeY: if you explicitly created a seperate home partition then a reinstall will leave your data alone; if not then no
[05:47] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, use chmod
[05:47] <PurpZeY> bazhang: I did not.
[05:47] <olskolirc> sound issue right Meshezabeel1 ?
[05:47] <grizlo42> let me check
[05:47] <grizlo42> i don´t think so
[05:47] <grizlo42> cause if i delete index.html
[05:47] <grizlo42> then it shows the folders
[05:47] <olskolirc> or video Meshezabeel1
[05:47] <TrustNoOne> chuy_max, yeah i got that far but i dont know the entire command to use
[05:47] <grizlo42> and it doesn´t show all of the ones it should
[05:47] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, video, yes
[05:48] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, are you aware of permissions?, rwx?
[05:48] <olskolirc> hmmm
[05:48] <olskolirc> can you pull the card?
[05:48] <olskolirc> and reinstall it
[05:48] <TrustNoOne> chuy_max, would it be "sudo chmod +w /usr/share/azureus"
[05:48] <grizlo42> nope
[05:48] <j_> Is there a command to revmove an synaptic package manager files?
[05:48] <grizlo42> problem still there
[05:48] <olskolirc> oops, Meshezabeel1 pull the card and reinstall it
[05:49] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, give full permissions with sudo chmod 777 /usrblabla
[05:49] <PurpZeY> bazhang: I have one crucial partition that is NTFS that I would NEED to save. Otherwise, I'd be OK.
[05:49] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, it is my playback of avi, mpeg, dv, wmv videos that don't work when nvidia proprietary drivers are enabled, it used to work fine but suddenly stopped working last week
[05:49] <bazhang> j_: something you installed with synpatic you wish to remove with the cli? is that the thrust of your question?
[05:49] <olskolirc> ohhh ok Meshezabeel1
[05:49] <TrustNoOne> chuy_max, i dont want full permission, just write so it can do updates, so would i use that command i previously mentioned?
[05:49] <grizlo42> what is the terminal command to remove all php, mysql, and apache stuff from my comp
[05:49] <grizlo42> so i can re install
[05:49] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: you said you just updated everything ... do you have another hard drive lying around?
[05:49] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, yes, you can also do that
[05:49] <j_> bazhang yep
[05:49] <olskolirc> let me think a second Meshezabeel1
[05:50] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: No. But I imagine I could buy one.
[05:50] <bazhang> j_: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[05:50] <grizlo42> anyone?
[05:50] <j_> bazhang for example i accidently install this game call abuse
[05:50] <grizlo42> yeah
[05:50] <j_> bazhang thanks
[05:50] <olskolirc> Meshezabeel1: cat > /dev/video0
[05:50] <grizlo42> but do you know which packages i need to remove?
[05:50] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: Everything except my harddrives...The idea was to save my hard-drives and just supplant them over to the new machine.
[05:50] <olskolirc> smack it around a bit lol
[05:50] <bazhang> olskolirc: not very helpful
[05:50] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: you could also try to copy your files to the ntfs partition and then copy back after reinstall ...
[05:51] <olskolirc> see if he gets scribble bazhang
[05:51] <chuy_max> grizlo42, what is the problem, I thought you couldn't open php scripts
[05:51] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: or burn to cd, if they fit
[05:51] <olskolirc> I'd kill to get my mythtv going
[05:51] <TrustNoOne> chuy_max, and so changing permission to write for /usr/share/azureus will only affect azureus folder, not the folders containing it right? so usr and share will not be +w?
[05:51] <olskolirc> im using a pvr card and im running it through vlc
[05:51] <bazhang> olskolirc: mythbuntu?
[05:52] <olskolirc> say what bazhang ? /me mouth hanging open
[05:52] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, I think I just wiped out my /dev/video0 with the > in the line you gave me
[05:52] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, yes, if you want to include files and dirs under that directory, you want to add -R
[05:52] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: I am not so terribly concerned about the files on my ubuntu drive....It's my other drive I want to try to save really.
[05:52] <bazhang> olskolirc: they have a channel for mythbuntu you know
[05:52] <prince_jammys> PurpZeY: the NTFS? that won't be affected
[05:52] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, chmod -R +w /blabla
[05:53] <olskolirc> my issue bazhang is that my config is full screen and my close doesn't close.  I have to restart X to get back
[05:53] <olskolirc> what happened Meshezabeel1 ?
[05:53] <PurpZeY> prince_jammys: So, maybe I get a new install...if of course I can get my computer to recognize my SATA disc drive. If it did that, then I'd be reinstalling already.
[05:53] <TrustNoOne> chuy_max, ok that will only affect the folders azureus and the folders within it right? not the folders usr or share?
[05:53] <prince_jammys> TrustNoOne: right, the permissions will affect only the file you say (unless you do -R for recursive when changing permissions for a directory).  but the parent dirs will never be affected
[05:53] <chuy_max> TrustNoOne, right
[05:53] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, cat > /dev/video0 just hangs, when I try it without the > it says 'no such device', but when I ls, I see a /dev/video0 there
[05:53] <kavik> hello
[05:54] <prince_jammys> TrustNoOne: still seems weird that you would need to do that with azureus, though
[05:54] <bazhang> olskolirc: the channel is #ubuntu-mythtv if you are interested
[05:54] <olskolirc> oh its fine then Meshezabeel1 did you see scribble?
[05:54] <kavik> how do i burn image to cd?
[05:54] <olskolirc> thanks bazhang I'll write that down
[05:55] <TrustNoOne> prince_jammys, because it is the newest version which was a zip file that i just extracted to that location, it had no install script, it just has a run script
[05:55] <bazhang> kavik: right click open with cd/dvd creator
[05:55] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, scribble?
[05:55] <olskolirc> errr, its been a long time since I did that Meshezabeel1 did you hear static?
[05:55] <chuy_max> kavik, you can easily do it with k3b/gnomebaker
[05:55] <prince_jammys> TrustNoOne: have you tried running it with sudo instead of changing permissions?
[05:56] <kavik> i'm on vista right now
[05:56] <TrustNoOne> prince_jammys, i do not want to run any program with sudo unless i have to
[05:56] <prince_jammys> kavik: go to places->cd burner and drag the image file into the window. then select "burn as image"
[05:56] <bazhang> isorecorder2 then should work kavik
[05:56] <kavik> I don't have anything to burn the image with
[05:56] <PurpZeY> TrustNoOne: I think the suggestion is you might have to in this scenario.
[05:56] <chuy_max> kavik, download nero
[05:56] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, hear static from what? From the command you gave me? I didn't hear any static. When playing video I see a black screen, but can hear the audio fine.
[05:57] <kavik> ner, or isorecorder2
[05:57] <prince_jammys> why? doesn't gnome already come with a cd burner?
[05:57] <co_ckp_keabisan_> rianti
[05:57] <olskolirc> ok Meshezabeel1 im crap out of clues, sorry
[05:57] <bazhang> wow prince_jammys knows #bash and vista--I'm impressed ;]
[05:57] <chuy_max> kavik, nero is the most popular windows burning app
[05:57] <prince_jammys> bazhang: ?
[05:57] <Meshezabeel1> olskolirc, okay, no problem, thanks for your willingness to help :)
[05:57] <prince_jammys> bazhang: oh ... he's on vista?
[05:58] <bazhang> prince_jammys: sorry; just saw you in bash channel earlier
[05:58] <prince_jammys> bazhang: yeah, i'm always on that
[05:58] <PurpZeY> Right now I am just trying to get any operating system up and running. Apparently none of them like it when you replace the entire infrastructure of the machine and don't tell them
[05:58] <bazhang> hehe impressive
[05:59] <PurpZeY> I had a plan.
[05:59] <PurpZeY> It just didn't work
[05:59] <bazhang> PurpZeY: fixable in several ways that we have outlined here
[05:59] <grizlo42> my problem is that when i open localhost, it shows the file directories, which is ok, but they do not reflect the files/folders in /var/www/
[05:59] <n2diy> ! i880
[05:59] <grizlo42> it has the contents from about an hour ago
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i880 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <decay> what does > in 'cat > something' do?
[06:00] <j_> Does PIDGEN music messaging plugin works? ? ? Its not working for me for some reasons
[06:00] <PurpZeY> bazhang: Realistically it seems like the Ubuntu fix is to reinstall, and I am OK with that...I don't think anything else is going to work...I see my boot screens...Ubuntu is looking for all sorts of hardware and failing to find it. That'd be the best fix.
[06:00] <junjun> bugay
[06:00] <PurpZeY> j_: Ask in #pidgin
[06:00] <prince_jammys> decay: redirects the output to a file called "something"
[06:00] <decay> prince thanks
[06:00] <chuy_max> grizlo42, does it show /var/www/apache-default contents?
[06:00] <Meshezabeel1> PurpZeY, for windows, you could always try sysprep maybe
[06:00] <kavik> bazhang which bit do i want?
[06:01] <kavik> bazhang, 32 or 64?
[06:01] <bazhang> PurpZeY: that is more the windows way; really this can be worked on but not all of them at one go
[06:01] <kavik> bazhang, or should i get the command line cd burner?
[06:01] <PurpZeY> Meshezabeel1: I am currently running in safemode to recognize my new hardware...
[06:01] <PurpZeY> bazhang: I mean this in a non-degrading way. But so far, none of them can be worked on.
[06:01] <grizlo42> no, it shows the directory above that
[06:01] <bazhang> kavik what cpu do you have? core2 duo or amd 64bit?
[06:01] <tgcondor> hi, after a recent update, df -h shows 226G  225G 0 (Size  Used Avail) so my / is acting as full. Deleting files reduces "Used" but Avail remains at zero. Any idea why?
[06:02] <kavik> bazhang, i'm not sure, how do i check? system info?
[06:02] <prince_jammys> decay: try : ls >myfiles  and then open the new file "myfiles"
[06:02] <TrustNoOne> how can you view the permissions on a folder
[06:02] <bazhang> kavik: from vista?
[06:02] <tgcondor> TrustNoOne: ls -ld folder
[06:02] <kavik> bazhang, yeah
[06:02] <draicone> How can I upgrade some packages using the alternate ISO? I'm thinking I have to mount it and get synaptic to recognise it, but I can't work out how
[06:02] <chuy_max> grizlo42, weird, my apache reflects changes when refreshing, I don't have to clean cache
[06:03] <bazhang> kavik: do you know what make and model of your computer? there should be some sticker on it like intel inside or amd or somesuch
[06:03] <kavik> bazhang, it says processor: intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 440 @ 1.86GHz 1.87GHz
[06:03] <bazhang> kavik 32 bit then
[06:03] <kavik> bazhang, k thanks.
[06:03] <tgcondor> draicone: you mean update packages on your system but first booting from an alternate CD?
[06:03] <decay> prince_jammys: im following an exmaple in a shell scripting book that arrived today. (im 100% new to this). heres' the first example: http://slexy.org/view/s2049SEq6Q
[06:04] <draicone> tgcondor: no, like, instead of downloading the update packages, get them from the (mounted?) ISO
[06:04] <CVD-PR> How to know the last time i lo-gon?
[06:04] <tgcondor> any help with the drive-full syndrom?
[06:04] <kavik> bazhang, lmao if i scroll down it says 32 bit operating system.. my bad...
[06:04] <bazhang> draicone: just start up from the alternate cd and choose upgrade existing system or something along those lines
[06:04] <decay> I see the file gets created, and all the text after 'nurses' gets written to the file. but when i execute it, it says file too budy
[06:04] <decay> busy*
[06:04] <bazhang> kavik haha
[06:04] <draicone> bazhang: Okay, great, thanks
[06:04] <bazhang> draicone no worries ;]
[06:05] <neo_> how can i encrypt the data???    is there any preinstalled software????
[06:05] <tgcondor> draicone: you can also use dpkg -i with the path to your CD/ISO
[06:05] <draicone> tgcondor: Okay, I'll try that too, thanks
[06:05] <SkinnYPuppY> Does anyone remember an older linux version that had multiple logins available on multiple Fxx keys? Is there a way to have more than one session open in ubuntu?
[06:06] <SkinnYPuppY> I want to say it was redhat or mandrake.
[06:06] <prince_jammys> decay: there's something wrong there
[06:06] <bazhang> SkinnYPuppY: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:06] <nix_chix0r> salut sauvin you are a stalker ;p
[06:06] <kavik> On another note, what is the best IRC application? or.. which do you prefer? i'm using Leafchat, but i don't like it, it's too limited.
[06:06] <neo_> how can i encrypt the data???    is there any preinstalled software????
[06:06] <tgcondor> ok, easier question. What keyword can I use in google or ubuntu forums to find info about my problem?
[06:06] <tgcondor> hi, after a recent update, df -h shows 226G  225G 0 (Size  Used Avail) so my / is acting as full. Deleting files reduces "Used" but Avail remains at zero. Any idea why?
[06:06] <decay> prince_jammys: do you know what?
[06:06] <bazhang> xchat is popluar kavik
[06:06] <draicone> By the way, are there any lightweight web browsers available that suit Ubuntu?
[06:07] <tgcondor> i tried several searches but nothing relevant came up
[06:07] <kavik> draicone firefox?
[06:07] <neo_> how can i encrypt the data???    is there any preinstalled software????
[06:07] <draicone> kavik: Way too bloated. I'm thinking k-meleon-like footprint.
[06:07] <bazhang> tgcondor: you might try an apt clean to get rid of the apt archives
[06:07] <SkinnYPuppY> The ability to have two or more user logins with active sessions and ability to quickly switch b/t sessions
[06:07] <mbrandt> draicone how lightweight?
[06:07] <kavik> draicone ahh...
[06:07] <bazhang> neo_:  you can try truecrpyt
[06:07] <draicone> mbrandt: Well, not exactly text based, but like a reasonably fast web browser
[06:08] <chemical> Hey room
[06:08] <draicone> I need a spare one for internet banking and stuff (XSS/CSRF)
[06:08] <neo_> bazhang ::: can i encrypt the whole folder
[06:08] <prince_jammys> decay: did you paste that code or is that part of the book?
[06:08] <draicone> Is Epiphany reasonably lightweight?
[06:08] <bazhang> draicone kazhezhase or something like that (forgot the spelling, sorry)
[06:08] <chemical> How can I participate into Skypecasts?
[06:08] <chemical> via my Ubuntu's skype
[06:08] <chuy_max> neo_, gpg
[06:08] <draicone> bazhang, I'll have a look for it, thanks
[06:08] <tgcondor> bazhang: done that. I can delete big files, but it only reduces the "used" part of 'df' output, doesn't increase "available", and I still can't create files
[06:09] <kavik> Is it easy to have dual OS?
[06:09] <SkinnYPuppY> kavik: yes
[06:09] <bazhang> tgcondor: how big hard drive and how much remaining space
[06:09] <tgcondor> kavik: yes
[06:09] <bazhang> kavik si
[06:09] <chuy_max> neo_, you could also create an encrypted file system, that might be what you want
[06:09] <SkinnYPuppY> I like running VMWare server so I have an XP machine running on my linux desktop
[06:10] <kavik> skinnypuppy, tgcondor, bazhang, ha ha, ok. thanks.
[06:10] <chuy_max> neo_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[06:10] <tgcondor> bazhang: good question. something is fishy
[06:10] <bazhang> http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/ draicone
[06:10] <chemical> How can I participate into Skypecasts?
[06:11] <neo_> chuy_max:::::       will gpg encrypt a whole folder/..?????
[06:11] <prince_jammys> decay: by the way, you can also get:  sudo apt-get install rutebook       (rutebook has a tutorial for the shell also) and you can view it in a web browser by pasting this in the address bar::  /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html
[06:11] <bazhang> neo_: you mean folder or partition
[06:11] <nix_chix0r> hmm
[06:11] <draicone> bazhang: Cool, thanks!
[06:11] <tgcondor> bazhang: size 226G, used 225G, even though I deleted many gigs before rebooting
[06:11] <neo_> bazhang ::: a  folder
[06:11] <prince_jammys> decay: another package you can get is abs-guide  (bash shell scripting guide, also viewable in a web browser)
[06:12] <bazhang> neo_: then yes no problemo
[06:12] <neo_> bazhang ::: i need to transfer the data...
[06:12] <dimitris82> good morning
[06:12] <bazhang> neo_: so transfer it ;]
[06:12] <prince_jammys> decay: as far as the code in the site, it's messed up in several ways. would be nice if they had comments of what it's supposed to be doing
[06:12] <neo_> bazhang ::: how to use it???
[06:13] <sauvin> nix_chix0r, if you'll do a /whois on me, you'll see I join a bunch of channels. It's done by macro :D
[06:13] <decay> prince_jammys: thanks for the links. im installing. and they do have comments. ill post the entire thing hold on
[06:13] <neo_> bazhang ::: is there any gui program for this/???
[06:13] <brysonm> whenever I boot, my computer loads my nic using the acx module...how do I tell it to instead use the ndiswrapper module?
[06:13] <nix_chix0r> sauvin, oui je sais
[06:13] <nix_chix0r> :P
[06:13] <bazhang> quakky you still around? the #alsa folks just woke up ;]
[06:13] <nix_chix0r> it's still weird
[06:13] <prince_jammys> decay: those two ebooks can be installed through apt (synaptic, apt-get, etc.)
[06:13] <chemical> dimitris82 kalimera mipws ksereis na mpw se skypecast mesw Ubuntu?
[06:13] <sauvin> I'm no stalker, but... it does seem we have a number of interests in common :D
[06:14] <SkinnYPuppY> What are some common free webhosts now days?
[06:14] <dimitris82> I have ubuntu 5.10 server edition and i cannot update or install any program because is out of date... Can i upgrade to new version stable that i can install programs only and not change the kernel ? i have tried to upgrade to edgy but it changed my kernel and then i have on reboot kernel panic! any ideas ?
[06:14] <nix_chix0r> sauvin, yeah just linux and french crap
[06:14] <neo_> bazhang ::: is there any gui program for this/???
[06:14] <bazhang> http://www.truecrypt.org/faq.php neo_ best to read a bit first
[06:14] <dimitris82> chemical: kalimera den to exw psaksi pote kati tetio sorryz, sigoura sto google iparxei howto pos na to kanis
[06:14] <decay> prince_jammys: ya. i just installed rutebook
[06:14] <nix_chix0r> trucrypt is fun
[06:15] <sauvin> (quelle langue est-ce que dimitris82 parle la-haut?
[06:15] <sauvin> )
[06:15] <dimitris82> sorry sauvin
[06:15] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/02/truecrypt-v50-gui-released.html neo_
[06:15] <chemical> dimitris82 afth ti stigmh to mono poy exw kataferei einai mono na akouw alla oxi na symetexw sta skypecasts
[06:15] <l815> how do i get root programs to use my gnome theme?
[06:16] <nix_chix0r> it's all greek to me;p
[06:16] <sauvin> dimitris82, you don't need to be sorry to me, I was just being curious.
[06:16] <prince_jammys> decay: rutebook has much more than shell scripting, but there's a shell section.  it also comes in pdf if you want to print (it's at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/rute.pdf.gz
[06:16] <SuperQ> l815: how are you running them now?
[06:16] <bazhang> !gr
[06:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[06:16] <l815> SuperQ, what do you mean?
[06:16] <dimitris82> sauvin: i couldnt understand you
[06:16] <nix_chix0r> sauvin,  check this link out, http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=pbrcxtwqob
[06:16] <SuperQ> l815: what do you mean by root programs, and how are you running them?
[06:16] <j_> How do i install 'INSTALL' files  http://code.google.com/p/musictracker/
[06:16] <l815> SuperQ, my gnome theme seems to work with everything but root programs like Synaptic, which looks like 98 theme
[06:17] <nix_chix0r> dimitris82, well you're speaking greek, he's speaking french, so how about we just speak english
[06:17] <neo_> bazhang:can i hide all icons from my desktop including my own folders???
[06:17] <l815> SuperQ, it requires copying some files to some place but I don't remember lol
[06:17] <dimitris82> nix_chix0r:  I just nod with you sorry guys.. this was been rude
[06:17] <bazhang> neo_: did you even take a peek at those links? ;] if so you are a speed reader
[06:17] <sauvin> He does this in front of an Apple laptop!?
[06:17] <SuperQ> l815: hrm, gksudo should inherit
[06:17] <j_> How do i install 'INSTALL' files  http://code.google.com/p/musictracker/
[06:17] <SuperQ> l815: let me run a test
[06:17] <l815> SuperQ, alright
[06:18] <dimitris82> I have ubuntu 5.10 server edition and i cannot update or install any program because is out of date... Can i upgrade to new version stable that i can install programs only and not change the kernel ? i have tried to upgrade to edgy but it changed my kernel and then i have on reboot kernel panic! Can anyone help me ?
[06:18] <TrustNoOne> can not update azureus even if chmod 777 because the new downloaded file does not take parent folder permissions, and so is unable to install. i am forced to run azureus as sudo when update is available :(
[06:18] <l815> SuperQ, only themes that I install do this, default gnome themes work fine
[06:18] <tgcondor> dimitris82: do you care about programs or only data?
[06:19] <bthornton> I'm trying to backup several gigs of data from an ext3 partition to a large FAT32 volume. I can't just copy the files because FAT32 won't preserve the permissions, and I can't just tar everything because FAT32 won't allow files larger than 2/4GB . Can someone help me with this?
[06:19] <neo_> bazhang: i just saved the pages   for future refrence...
[06:19] <SuperQ> l815: Ohh, that makes sense
[06:19] <dimitris82> tgcondor: i have installed squid proxy, SambaShare (and i have many data there)
[06:19] <SuperQ> l815: did you install themes by hand (command line?)
[06:19] <bazhang> TrustNoOne: why even bother with azureus? it is really a memory hog, and unstable as well--there are several other options such as deluge ktorrent, transmission; even utorrent under wine is better imo
[06:19] <tgcondor> dimitris82: so you care about config files, basically
[06:19] <dimitris82> tgcondor: also i have backup my server with N.ghost ( i know this seems stupid , but worked for me)
[06:19] <dimitris82> tgcondor: yes i can say so
[06:20] <tgcondor> dimitris82: I had a similar problem, it took a long time to make it stable,  but it can be done
[06:20] <l815> SuperQ, no i dragged and dropped in the appearance menu
[06:20] <dimitris82> tgcondor: is there any how to ? can you tell me i dont have a problem to do it
[06:20] <SuperQ> l815: ok, so give me a min to figure out where gnome keeps these things
[06:20] <tgcondor> dimitris82: what i did was put all the useful files in one place, e.g., /home
[06:20] <sauvin> nix_chix0r, why did you show me a link to a video explaining to tiny children how to install Wubi?
[06:20] <l815> SuperQ, alright thanks
[06:20] <tgcondor> dimitris82: but i forgot the databases, so don't forget that!
[06:20] <nix_chix0r> sauvin, cause it's funny
[06:20] <SuperQ> l815: I havn't played with non-default themse in a long time :)
[06:20] <sauvin> Heh.
[06:21] <tgcondor> dimitris82: then i deleted all the program using rm /bin /sbin .. etc
[06:21] <tgcondor> dimitris82: then I used the alternate CD to install a new system
[06:21] <SuperQ> l815: where did you get the themes from?
[06:21] <l815> SuperQ, :P.. i'll brb though need to restart
[06:21] <dimitris82> tgcondor: on the same root right ?
[06:21] <l815> SuperQ, gnome-look.org
[06:21] <SuperQ> l815: restart why?
[06:21] <l815> SuperQ, just installed some pre-released updates
[06:21] <TrustNoOne> bazhang, i do not have memory issues or unstable issues with azureus, i use it because its easy to configure port forwarding for it, and to disable DHT and decentralized tracking for my private sites, and it is one of the clients approved by my private tracker, i can not use anything not in the "approved list" and frankly transmission is not up-to-par with azureus, so i choose azureus over transmission which is one of their other
[06:21] <TrustNoOne>  options for linux
[06:22] <tgcondor> dimitris82: yes. i had additional requirement: i wanted to keep my raid volumes as is, and eventually it worked without loss of data except for databases because i did rm -r /var
[06:22] <SuperQ> ahh
[06:22] <tgcondor> bazhang: so it seems that I have a process that keeps filling up my drive. any idea how to find it?
[06:23] <dimitris82> tgcondor: it sounds to me a good option , but could just upgrade with aptitude only , without kernel ?
[06:23] <tgcondor> bazhang: humm .. i should 'man find'
[06:23] <bazhang> TrustNoOne: okay well one mans pleasure is another mans poison; transmission second to azureus--I just had some very bad experiences with that app and transmission has been superb--sorry not to help you out there
[06:23] <dimitris82> tgcondor: if i dont upgrade my kernel everything is fine
[06:23] <j_> How do i compile package???
[06:23] <tgcondor> dimitris82: you could, my problem was a broken kernel
[06:24] <bazhang> tgcondor: open a terminal and type top
[06:24] <prince_jammys> !compile | j_
[06:24] <ubotu> j_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[06:24] <tgcondor> dimitris82: i think aptitude keeps current kernel and ads new ones, you can then select which to boot from
[06:24] <TrustNoOne> bazhang, well of course, if you have a bad experience with something you deem it "crap", i mean i did that with xbox 360... so its understandable... but if it works for some, i guess thats good for them right? :)
[06:24] <dimitris82> tgcondor: ahh i see..
[06:24] <quakky_> hey guys, I just posted my problem ..if u think got the solution please reply to this ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4506013#post4506013
[06:24] <dimitris82> tgcondor: yes i tried to old kernels but the problem is still goes on
[06:24] <tgcondor> dimitris82: and even edit menu.lst to make the old kernel your default, after the upgrade
[06:24] <TrustNoOne> I HATE XBOX :@ *insert super angry flip off microsoft smiley face here*
[06:24] <TrustNoOne> k sorry... !offtopic... i know
[06:24] <tgcondor> dimitris82: what's the problem?
[06:24] <bazhang> TrustNoOne: no doubt; and sorry to badmouth your favorite--no offense meant--I'm just sorry I cant help you out here
[06:25] <dimitris82> tgcondor: i know i tried that also .. i changed the key it uses on the menu list to my path of /dev/cciss/c0p0c1
[06:25] <tgcondor> dimitris82: try to do update-initramfs -c -k oldkernelversion
[06:25] <dimitris82> tgcondor: right i think it was this
[06:25] <dimitris82> i dont remember
[06:25] <TrustNoOne> bazhang, yeah thats ok
[06:26] <bazhang> TrustNoOne: okay cool
[06:26] <dimitris82> tgcondor: but how to do that that i cannot go to login
[06:26] <dimitris82> tgcondor: server is stacked with kernel panic
[06:26] <bazhang> I got to head out for a bit; be back later ;]
[06:26] <dimitris82> tgcondor: my problem was something like the devices couldnt loaded..
[06:27] <tgcondor> dimitris82: boot from alternate CD, select "rescue", select root partition, chroot to root, mount /proc and /boot (if needed), then do the update-initramfs
[06:27] <dimitris82> tgcondor: and the stupid was my cd-rom has burned out and i cannot boot from a CD
[06:27] <dimitris82> tgcondor: with ghost i boot from usb lol
[06:28] <tgcondor> dimitris82: can you boot altenrate CD from usb?
[06:28] <l815> SuperQ, i'm back
[06:28] <dimitris82> tgcondor: and my second dvd-rom it doesnt recognise it from -bios-boot
[06:28] <tgcondor> dimitris82: i.e., put CD on USB
[06:28] <TrustNoOne> amateur porn week on MTV, gotta go :) cya l8er bazhang
[06:29] <TrustNoOne> whoa, died in here
[06:29] <SuperQ> l815: Hrm, themes seem to work for me
[06:29] <dimitris82> tgcondor: do you know i howto to try it ? because i search for fedora and few sites was completly wrong ... i need a good one that have tried someone else
[06:29] <SuperQ> l815: can you point me to a specific theme that's not working?
[06:29] <l815> SuperQ, one sec
[06:30] <dimitris82> tgcondor: ok i have two tries now :D   do you believe if from 5.10 to dapper gonna work ?
[06:30] <dimitris82> upgrade*
[06:32] <l815> SuperQ, all the ones i downloaded do the same, but here is one of them http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta2?content=43054
[06:32] <dimitris82> tgcondor: you say just cp from CD to usb ? thats all ? or i need to do something else?
[06:33] <tgcondor> dimitris82: should be all
[06:33] <SuperQ> l815: ok, gimme a sec to look
[06:33] <l815> SuperQ, alright
[06:33] <tgcondor> dimitris82: but i'm not 100%
[06:33] <dimitris82> tgcondor: ok i give a third try then
[06:34] <tgcondor> dimitris82: gl :O)
[06:34] <gan>  i compiled a kernel , the aufs compiled for this not loaded perfectly with kernel why?
[06:34] <dimitris82> tgcondor: would you be on ? maybe i give you the exactly problem
[06:34] <dimitris82> :P
[06:34] <dimitris82> tgcondor: thnx m8 for helping me
[06:35] <SuperQ> l815: ok, so you did copy the files to /usr/share/themes?
[06:36] <dimitris82> bb all
[06:36] <l815> SuperQ, no all i did was install via appearance
[06:36] <dimitris82> see ya later ;)
[06:36] <l815> SuperQ, so all i have to do is copy the themes to that folder?
[06:37] <tgcondor> dimitris82: it's 3:30 am in Halifax. not sure how much longer i'll be here
[06:37] <tgcondor> dimitris82: pm me and i'll check in the morning.
[06:37] <brysonm> how can I define which kernel module should be loaded to handle a particular PCMCIA device?
[06:37] <dimitris82> tgcondor: oh okz man :)))) i was thought all have greek time :P
[06:37] <dimitris82> okz
[06:37] <dimitris82> tgcondor: thnx again
[06:37] <tgcondor> dimitris82: pleasure
[06:37] <Frogzoo> brysonm: blacklist the ones you don't want in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:38] <tgcondor> bazhang: found my problem. it's was backup cron that went bad. thanks!
[06:38] <mrbroadbandguy> hi all
[06:39] <SuperQ> l815: yes, you need to follow the install instructions that came with the file
[06:39] <SuperQ> l815: see http://ben.nerp.net/theme-test.png
[06:39] <mrbroadbandguy> any tablet pc user out there
[06:39] <l815> SuperQ, oh didn't know there was more to it
[06:40] <SuperQ> l815: yea, there are a couple of things that need to get installed for full theme modifications
[06:40] <l815> SuperQ, do you know where the gnome themes are installed then? so i can copy them over
[06:40] <SuperQ> l815: not sure, you should have the original downloaded files
[06:41] <SuperQ> l815: open those up and the files should have instructions
[06:41] <l815> SuperQ, okay thanks
[06:41] <SuperQ> l815: If you stick to Metacity themes that don't contain "gtk 2.x" code, you won't have to worry about them as much
[06:41] <joseph_> hi everyone
[06:42] <l815> SuperQ, aren't metacity themes just window borders?
[06:42] <SuperQ> l815: Hrm.. maybe you're right
[06:42] <SuperQ> l815: I thought they could do a bit more
[06:42] <mrbroadbandguy> hi Joseph
[06:42] <SuperQ> l815: the gnome theme thing allows a lot of customizations
[06:43] <j_> ./configure
[06:43] <j_> make
[06:43] <j_> sudo make install
[06:43] <joseph_> how do i use 4 desktops instead of just 2 in ubuntu?
[06:43] <joseph_> like a cube
[06:43] <j_> im stuck on make files
[06:43] <l815> SuperQ, yeah it's crazy
[06:43] <SuperQ> :-D
[06:44] <l815> what's the command to copy a folder to another?
[06:44] <bullgard4> Why opens the MCVIEW(1) manpage if I instruct 'man view' in a Gnome terminal?
[06:45] <willfrand> hi
[06:45] <willfrand> help meeee
[06:46] <bullgard4> l815: Do you mean cp?
[06:46] <joseph_> what do you need help with
[06:46] <l815> bullgard4, i guess that's it thanks :)
[06:46] <willfrand> hi joseph
[06:46] <redarrow> l815: I guess cp -r /directory1 /directory2
[06:46] <willfrand> i've various problems
[06:46] <willfrand> first
[06:46] <l815> redarrow yeah that's it
[06:47] <redarrow> no problem l815
[06:47] <willfrand> mi natural langage is spanish, but to this hour, don't have nobody in the spanish room, then, please, i need a little of patience
[06:48] <l815> SuperQ, putting the themes in /usr/share/themes worked :D
[06:48] <vikku_> can some one help me walk through build process after downloadig a tar
[06:48] <pajamian> vikku_: what program?
[06:49] <bullgard4> willfrand: Que quieres?
[06:49] <[dcr]> How can I add AWN to the startup?
[06:49] <Killeroid> vikku_: tar -zxvf tarfile.tar  , then ./configure     then make  , then mak install
[06:49] <willfrand> second, i need install some programs, but the ubuntu, tell me (?) that i need configurate the roxen4, and no have help
[06:49] <Killeroid> *make
 suppose binutils-older-versio and after doing ar xvzf do i need to get in some dir ?
[06:50] <Killeroid> [dcr]: http://wiki.awn-project.org/FAQ#How_can_I_make_AWN_run_when_my_desktop_starts_up.3F
[06:50] <willfrand> by example, now i am installing the googleearth, and the synaptic tell me configurate the roxen4, how is this?
[06:50] <[dcr]> ty Killeroid=]
[06:50] <tgcondor> Killeroid, vikku_ : -z to tar only for .tar.gz, otherwise just -xvf if it's just .tar
[06:51] <Killeroid> tgcondor: noted and thnx
[06:51] <pajamian> vikku_: yes, you need to change to the directory that was just created by the tar process.  So you mean you are trying to build binutils from source because you want an older version, do I understand correctly?
[06:52] <bullgard4> willfrand: Please use the program 'Synaptic' to install the two packages 'roxen4' and 'roxen4doc'.
[06:52] <willfrand> aja, and next?
[06:52] <tgcondor> vikku_: like pajamian said, 'cd binutils-older-versio'
[06:52] <vikku_> yes u r right pajamian
[06:53] <willfrand> then, cancel this installation, and after install roxen4, and then, install at new?
[06:53] <vikku_> ok lemme try tha
[06:53] <pajamian> vikku_: ok, just out of curiosity, why do you want an older version?
[06:53] <vikku_> tryiing to do a LFS
[06:53] <bullgard4> willfrand: You said that you want to install the program 'roxen4'. Then you will have it installed. That is all.
[06:53] <willfrand> thanks bullgard, i go to probe
[06:53] <willfrand> to test
[06:54] <pajamian> vikku_: Linux From Scratch?
[06:54] <vikku_> thats y i need some older versions
[06:54] <vikku_> yes
[06:54] <bullgard4> willfrand: Much fuerte!
[06:54] <bullgard4> willfrand: Mucha fuerte!
[06:54] <pajamian> vikku_: that's a bit much to take on when you don't know how to build a program from source yet.
[06:54] <willfrand> what bullgard$, can do you spanish?
[06:54] <vikku_> yes thats y my questn was  to help me on buildg software
[06:54] <bauer__> Hey start up with xvnc , just have a grey screen ? Which comman should i put in startup ?
[06:54] <bullgard4> willfrand: Un poco.
[06:55] <vikku_> :)
[06:55] <vikku_> Dream big you c
[06:55] <pajamian> vikku_: ok, well before you attempt to build binutils you need to have all the libraries and development packages installed that are needed to build it.  building stuff from source requires extra dependancies that you don't need when you just install it from a package.
[06:56] <viper> hi my name is Darren and I have been using ubuntu for the last month, i am having some problems.. I have duel screens and a nvidia 8500 video card and when I run anything fullscreen (dosbox/zsnes/games) they stretch over both screens and i don't want that cause it makes then unplayable! any advice on how to fix this?
[06:56] <willfrand> and where do you from? bullgard?
[06:56] <willfrand> my english is very bad
[06:57] <willfrand> then, some times my question can to be some... different jejeje
[06:57] <vikku_> hold on i did download some source tar so gimme a sec
[06:58] <willfrand> porque mi lengua nativa es español bullgard4, soy latino, de colombia, tu de done eres?
[06:58] <pajamian> !es | willfrand
[06:58] <ubotu> willfrand: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:59] <viper> hi my name is Darren and I have been using ubuntu for the last month, i am having some problems.. I have duel screens and a nvidia 8500 video card and when I run anything fullscreen (dosbox/zsnes/games) they stretch over both screens and i don't want that cause it makes then unplayable! any advice on how to fix this?
[07:00] <willfrand> yes pajamian... only that, to this hour, this rooms are vacuumm, and by other side, only to give a little words to bullgard4
[07:00] <pajamian> !repeat | viper
[07:00] <ubotu> viper: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:00] <bauer__> Hey start up with xvnc , just have a grey screen ? Which command should i put in startup to start a gnome desktop ?
[07:00] <bullgard4> willfrand: Estoy de Alemania.
[07:01] <musikgoat> Hi, I'm looking for a little help identifying a bug (i believe) with my intel 3945abg card...  occasionally,  after running the laptop for some time, then cold booting at any later time, the wireless doesn't get assigned an interface (i believe).   I'm able to see that the ipw3945 driver detects the card, but network manager doesn't load it,  any suggestions to identify the problem?