[13:32] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +305 cases (now 1.6 million), +7 deaths (now 27854), +17811 tests (now 10.3 million) since a day ago


[01:11] <phillw> Hi everyone..  I'm alerting lubntu media, but you may like to let all your own people know http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/canonical-patches-critical-openssh-vulnerabilities-in-all-supported-ubuntu-oses-498938.shtml?utm_content=buffer3afe3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[01:13] <tsimonq2> phillw: it's already been sent out via the Security Notices
[01:13] <tsimonq2> phillw: so old news :)
[01:13] <phillw> tsimonq2: for those who are on the ML. and those who are busy and do not check their emails every 30 seconds......
[01:14] <tsimonq2> phillw: hey now, I get push notifications :)
[01:14] <phillw> :-X
[01:19] <tsimonq2> phillw: so long story short, people are aware :)
[01:21] <phillw> nope.. long story short.. people are NOT aware. But, you can go back to your mailing list and I'll help spread the word to lubunteers who number in their thousands and use social media to be updated with news :D
[01:21] <tsimonq2> how about we ping wxl XD ^^
[01:22] <phillw> tsimonq2: wxl is already fully aware. he was told on #phillw of the developing situation.


[01:47] <dnivra> i am upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04. i get the error that few packages are corrupt and thus won't be installed. what can i do to install them?
[05:41] <billybigrigger> anyone else having problems with xterm?
[05:42] <billybigrigger> i launch it from gnome-terminal and it crashes...and abgx360 is crashing because it's trying to launch an xterm session too
[06:39] <nirazio> I use Ubuntu 10.10 and I've been shifting back and forth between the desktop and the netbook remix versions. Now I can't find the unity interface on UNR. It still shows as "installed" on the software center. Logging back and logging in on any other mode, gives me the same interface. Any ideas?
[06:43] <bazhang> nirazio, this channel is for 11.04
[06:43] <nirazio> bazhang: Oh sorry
[09:50] <speedvin> Hello!
[10:27] <yofel> *sigh*, that KDE finally deprecated HAL is good, but now I'm getting insanities from the bug 561479 sort -.-
[10:39] <test> Hi all, just installed Natty and installed the video drivers, and now I'm left without unity or gnome. What is the command to restart unity? When I try unity --replace it says that unity is not installed
[10:53] <test> restarting after doing all upgrades, brb
[11:05] <test> i'm back, updates didnt help
[12:27] <gnomefreak> anyone else having issues with 2.6.37-11 configuring?
[12:47]  * penguin42 yawns
[12:51] <scizzo-> penguin42: tired?
[12:51] <penguin42> just waking up
[12:51] <scizzo-> penguin42: have a coffee... :)
[13:02] <gnomefreak> seems we are missing linux-image-generic
[14:11] <BUGabundo> ehlo :D
[14:45] <charlie-tca> Has anyone been able to install using the alternate images?
[14:46]  * penguin42 hasn't tried installs
[15:03] <UndiFineD> charlie-tca, which ones ?
[15:05] <charlie-tca> natty ubuntu and xubuntu alternate i386 and amd64 daily images
[15:05] <charlie-tca> They start the partitioning, then loop back to the start with the language menu
[15:05] <UndiFineD> have not tried daily, I am running a natty ubuntu i386 in vm
[15:06] <charlie-tca> I can't even get to entering the user name
[15:06] <charlie-tca> and I get it on both VirtualBox and Hardware
[15:08] <UndiFineD> sorry, i had no issue with the pre-alpha1
[15:08] <UndiFineD> and that is still running
[15:33] <Martiini> natty fails to upgrade from maverick currently ??
[15:34] <BUGabundo> no idea
[15:34] <vish> charlie-tca: works.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-Natty%20%5BRunning%5D.png  :)
[15:34] <BUGabundo> been on natty since day one
[15:34] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:34] <IdleOne> same here
[15:34] <Martiini> I will try forcing dpkg ..
[15:34] <IdleOne> actually 1 day before day 1
[15:34] <BUGabundo> IdleOne:  LOL
[15:34] <BUGabundo> how can that be?
[15:35] <Martiini> rpm is actually better than deb ..
[15:35] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: I changed maverick to natty in sources the day before the email was sent out announcing the toolchain dropped
[15:35] <crimsun> Martiini: trolling isn't appreciated, BTW :)
[15:35] <vish> charlie-tca: i just had to install the guest additions and activate the 3D accel..!!
[15:35] <vish> crimsun: lol!
[15:36] <Martiini> I just upgraded opensuse to factory with no problems .. had to force install 2-3 rpms ..
[15:36] <Martiini> aptitude just doesnt want to upgrade .. when its broken
[15:36] <vish> BUGabundo: remember the other day you had a problem with compiz not starting? and error was something about the WM already registered?
[15:37] <BUGabundo> no
[15:37] <BUGabundo> but I have the worse memory
[15:37] <crimsun> Martiini: again, that is no function of rpm or deb. That's a reflection of the developmental state of each distro.
[15:37] <vish> ;p
[15:37] <BUGabundo> I still can't start 3D
[15:37] <IdleOne> why should it upgrade if it knows it is broken
[15:37] <crimsun> Martiini: so, please, stop trolling. :)
[15:37] <vish> BUGabundo: i came across he same problem.. it turns out compiz looks for non-existent gconf keys..
[15:37] <vish> s/he/the
[15:38] <BUGabundo> weeeeeeeeee
[15:38] <penguin42> I had problems upgrading yesterday, update-manager complained that it would have to remove ubuntu-desktop but that it wasn't allowed to - I think in the end I came to the conclusion it was a fight with xubuntu-desktop that I also have
[15:38] <vish> BUGabundo: still no 3D ? what does running compiz from the terminal say?
[15:39] <IdleOne> crimsun: I once forced my car to go down a hill, the breaks still didn't work when i reached the bottom
[15:39] <BUGabundo> vish: I'm running compiz, I think
[15:39] <vish> cool.. :)
[15:39] <BUGabundo> and im not coragoeus enough to try to run that again
[15:39] <BUGabundo> last time took me an afternoon to fix
[15:39] <BUGabundo> I need to upload my photos now
[15:40] <BUGabundo> will try later, once I flash my phone, and make sure its running lol
[15:40] <coz_> BUGabundo,  are you running unity desktop?
[15:40] <BUGabundo> no
[15:40] <BUGabundo> classic
[15:40] <coz_> oh
[15:40] <coz_> BUGabundo,  oh ok
[15:40] <vish> BUGabundo: well, if compiz is running unity should work.. (mostly) i remember you error and you just need to fix the gconf and you get unity working..
[15:40] <coz_> BUGabundo,  let me try compiz from terminal see if it restarts
[15:40] <vish> your*
[15:41] <BUGabundo> $ psx compi
[15:41] <BUGabundo> 1000     18971  0.0  0.0  11352   884 pts/1    S+   15:41   0:00 grep --color=auto compi
[15:41] <BUGabundo> I guess not
[15:41] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:43] <coz_> BUGabundo,  is the unity plugin enabled?
[15:43] <charlie-tca> vish, is that a new install from today using the alternate image?
[15:43] <vish> charlie-tca: yea, new install from 24's image..
[15:43] <BUGabundo> coz_: I think so
[15:43] <BUGabundo> let me start cssm manually and check
[15:43] <vish> charlie-tca: not alternate..
[15:44] <charlie-tca> desktop cd is working, alternate cd will not install
[15:44] <BUGabundo> bahhhh
[15:44] <coz_> BUGabundo,   if you are in classic gnome its likely unity plugin is disabled
[15:44] <BUGabundo> ccsm lost all my settings
[15:44] <BUGabundo> AGAIN
[15:44] <BUGabundo> :(
[15:44] <coz_> oooo
[15:44] <Martiini> anyone know how to force dpkg install packages .. dpkg -i --force-all .. doesnt seem to work
[15:44] <coz_> anyone in the process of packaging the plugins-extra...?
[15:45] <Martiini> crimsun, U chinese ? Chen
[15:46] <coz_> Martiini,  not sure  try    dpkg --force-help
[15:46] <penguin42> Martiini: Why does it need the force?
[15:46] <crimsun> Martiini: I'm "crimsun" :)
[15:47] <Martiini> penguin42, natty upgrade went bad .. as alpha upgrades do ..
[15:47] <Martiini> about 40 packages fail to install
[15:47] <penguin42> Martiini: If the --force-all is failing the problem is something else that the installation of the package is trying to use probably
[15:48] <coz_> Martiini,   just get the alpha cd and clean install it ..yes?
[15:48] <Martiini> no
[15:48] <coz_> :)
[15:48] <Martiini> downgrading back to maverick then .. its only laptop
[15:49] <coz_> darn fingers
[15:49] <coz_> Martiini,  its working as well as its going to work with a clean install ... out of curiosity...why not a clean install?
[15:49]  * penguin42 really could do with debugging the pause he gets during boot on this ---> machine, it was 30 sec on Maverick, it's nearer 85 on Natty, lucid was almost instant
[15:50] <Martiini> honestly .. opensuse is the most pain-free distro out there .. rpm upgrade/downgrade .. no problems ... I just upgraded my opensuse to latest 2.6.37 factory
[15:50] <coz_> penguin42,   mmm :)  according to this    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbkzXiLTk7o
[15:51] <coz_> Martiini,  maybe opensuse is more a kin  to your personality than ubuntu...yes?
[15:52] <Martiini> coz_,  linux is still linux .. rpm just upgrades/downgrades more easily
[15:52] <penguin42> coz_: Hehe - I dunno, I suspect some evil combination of upstart, lvm and udev are conspiring against it - but neither of them are easy to debug during boot; especially since in natty it seems to give a very blank screen during boot
[15:52] <penguin42> Martiini: Many of us prefer ubuntu/debian because we can't stand rpm - it's all preference (and off topic)
[15:52] <coz_> penguin42,  yes I have noticed that blank screen  sometimes several times here at boot
[15:52] <coz_> penguin42,   nvidia?
[15:53] <penguin42> coz_: Nope, radeon hd4350, open driver
[15:53] <coz_> mm
[15:53] <Martiini> u people work for Canonical ?
[15:53] <coz_> Martiini,  I am sure some do
[15:53] <penguin42> coz_: I think they're trying again with grub graphical hand off that
[15:53]  * penguin42 doesn't
[15:55] <Martiini> humans need biological computers .. this silicon binary processor stuff is getting old ..
[15:55] <Martiini> more than 50 years old technology now
[15:55] <penguin42> yeh well, you can fight bugs on those - yuck....
[15:55] <Martiini> DNA programming
[15:56] <Martiini> Masters degree in DNA programming and bio-IT
[15:56] <penguin42> Martiini: Can you take it somewhere relevant?
[15:57] <Martiini> homo sapiens .. human monkey
[15:57] <coz_> penguin42,  well at least I know it is not just my system with the blank screen.
[15:58] <penguin42> let me know if you find a bug#
[15:59] <coz_> penguin42,  me?
[15:59] <penguin42> yeh
[16:00] <coz_> penguin42,  sure  no problem.... right now the biggest thing that bothers me is the refuseal of ubuntuone to login from the gui
[16:00] <coz_> rather from   ubuntuone-preferences dialog
[16:01] <penguin42> ah I don't use that
[16:01] <coz_> penguin42,  I rarely use it myself but wanted to test it on natty... apparenlty  the bug has been reported already  I believe
[17:04] <coz_> be back a bit later,,, need to go to store
[17:31] <BUGabundo> wish me luck
[17:31] <BUGabundo> trying to start compiz
[17:32] <BUGabundo> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
[17:32] <BUGabundo> works
[17:32] <BUGabundo> kinda slow and sluggish
[17:32] <billybigrigger> anyone else having problems launching xterm?
[17:32] <BUGabundo> but that's nouevau
[17:32] <BUGabundo> BILLY!!!!!
[17:32] <billybigrigger> happy holidays BUGabundo!!!
[17:32] <BUGabundo> darn
[17:33] <BUGabundo> I'm left with app changer window on top :(
[17:33] <penguin42> app changer?
[17:33] <BUGabundo> application swithcer
[17:34] <BUGabundo> unticking it from CCSM "fixes" it !
[20:21] <zleap> hi
[20:38] <zleap> hi
[20:39] <scizzo-> hello
[20:40] <zleap> hi just tried to boot a 11.04 live cd, didn';t get very far
[20:42] <nit-wit> zleap, is it a dialy and what happened
[20:43] <zleap> tried to bopt, got past the try ubuntu but, buit then didn't get a desktop
[20:43] <zleap> i could shutdown ok using the keyboard
[20:44] <nit-wit> zleap,do you know the graphic card which one
[20:44] <zleap> old nvidia
[20:44] <zleap> geforce 4,
[20:44] <zleap> works fine with 10.04
[20:45] <holstein> zleap: with compiz?
[20:45] <nit-wit> zleap, try as soon as you power on hold the shift key down at the menu hit f6 tick nomodeset then ctrl+x to boot
[20:46] <nit-wit> holstein, is thst correct boot from the f6?
[20:46] <nit-wit> *that
[20:46] <BUGabundo> [offtopic] need a few ppl to test this for me: http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en
[20:46] <holstein> nit-wit: i cant keep track
[20:46] <holstein> i think so
[20:46] <holstein> that would be like the old 'safe graphics mode'
[20:46] <scizzo-> BUGabundo: link doesn't work
[20:47] <BUGabundo> really?
[20:47]  * BUGabundo looks
[20:47] <BUGabundo> works here :\
[20:47] <BUGabundo> are you sure?
[20:48] <holstein> BUGabundo: im not sure what im looking at
[20:48] <holstein> but i see 'running pipe'
[20:48] <BUGabundo> works fine on firefox and private chromium
[20:48] <nit-wit> holstein, safe graphics probably needs a radeon driver from the xswat ppa  after installing
[20:48] <BUGabundo> holstein: trying to have a µblog porfile with autotranslatd tweets :P
[20:48] <holstein> BUGabundo: :)
[20:49] <holstein> OH
[20:49] <holstein> here it comes...
[20:49] <scizzo-> I can't access the link anyway
[20:49] <holstein> BUGabundo: it took a bit
[20:49] <BUGabundo> bah
[20:49] <holstein> not bad though
[20:49] <holstein> maybe a minute
[20:51] <charlie-tca> Mine seems stuck at pipes too
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I get this: Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
[20:55] <BUGabundo> that's weird
[20:55] <BUGabundo> lots of ppl open it
[20:55] <BUGabundo> still a few don't
[20:56] <BUGabundo> what about http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=c9b89e6ed20f89a7c5fb9332f60e107a
[20:56] <holstein> charlie-tca: what browser ?
[20:56]  * holstein is on chromium
[20:56] <BUGabundo> chromium and FF 3.6 work fine here
[20:56] <scizzo-> BUGabundo: that page works
[20:57] <charlie-tca> ff and that page opened
[20:58] <jfi> BUGabundo, http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en does not work for ff4
[21:00] <BUGabundo> let me test
[21:00] <BUGabundo> wfm
[21:00] <jfi> ha my irc client try to open ff4 with http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en%C2%A0 (note the 2 last chars....) , without it is ok
[21:00] <BUGabundo> bummer,,,,
[21:00] <BUGabundo> http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en
[21:00] <BUGabundo> what two chars?
[21:01] <jfi> %C2%A0
[21:01] <BUGabundo> ohh there was something on the 1st paste
[21:01] <jfi> yep
[21:02] <charlie-tca> yup, that one opened too
[21:03] <charlie-tca> there was a space on the end of the link the first time?
[21:03] <jfi> space should be %32
[21:04] <charlie-tca> I don't know, it showed as a blank space here, and backspacing once lets the first link open
[21:05] <jfi> yes http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en works with ff4
[21:05] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:05] <BUGabundo> now need to pipe it :D
[21:05] <BUGabundo> its gonna be sweet
[21:06] <BUGabundo> on day, we will all speak our mother language, and everyone else will be able to receive it on theirs
[21:08] <jfi> I did not know pipes.yahoo.com, quite impressive
[21:09] <BUGabundo> I love it
[21:09] <BUGabundo> I use it for a lot of stuff
[21:09] <BUGabundo> hope they don't find out they are running it, and close it as well
[21:15] <speedvin> I need to go bye!
[21:28] <alexander> is there a ubuntu channel for newbs like me
[21:29] <holstein>   #ubuntu-beginners is a good one :)
[21:31] <alexander> ty holstein, i`m trying to figure out if i can synch an iphone in ubuntu
[21:35] <holstein> alexander: music?
[21:37] <alexander> no actual iphone
[21:37] <holstein> right
[21:37] <holstein> you want to sync music?
[21:37] <holstein> to the phone?
[21:37] <holstein> im not really sure how those work anyways
[21:38] <alexander> your better off
[21:38] <holstein> my droid just syncs through my gmail account
[21:38] <alexander> droid is opensource i think
[21:38] <holstein> but most of the media players can easily sync music to any folder
[21:38] <holstein> a directory on a USB drive or whatever
[21:39] <alexander> i should of got a droid
[21:39] <holstein> nah, you'll sort it out :)
[21:39] <alexander> cheers


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 @Vinicius Erikson Ursulino, Awesome :)
 Would you like to get started contributing to Lubuntu with something simple? Help us test Artful Aardvark Alpha 2! This can be done in a virtual machine or on real hardware, whatever works for you.
[02:42] <lubot5> More details here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-July/001053.html
[02:42] <lubot5> Please let me know if you have any questions!
 @tsimonq2, This is something I've been doing :D
[02:50] <lubot5> bashfulrobot was added by: bashfulrobot
 @bashfulrobot, Yo!
 Ola
 Heyo!
 I think this'll be a good way to build up the people around the Lubuntu community. :)
 Telegram is pretty universal.
 I'm glad the group exists. Honestly it's a great way for people to communicate, and I wish more communities did it.
 This has existed for a month or two now, I just felt like making it a bit more public now.
 Also, I don't hear much about Lubuntu, even from users, so it's nice :D
 @tsimonq2, I think this strengthens my point :P
 For sure
 I could add one for Ubuntu budgie, however we have gone pretty all in on gitter. Then people can even see our GitHub activity.
 @bashfulrobot, That'd be interesting
 @Schyken, Having a telegram group? Or seeing all the GitHub activity in gitter?
 @bashfulrobot, The Telegram group. I'm not even sure what Gitter is lol
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 @Hyuuga_Neji, Welcome!
 @Hyuuga_Neji, Welcome!
 Greetings from Cuba
 @Hyuuga_Neji, Greetings from the hot death trap that is Arizona
 @Schyken, Another chat program, but had integration into GitHub
 @bashfulrobot, That's pretty smart. I'll check it out 😎
 I'm a Lubuntu user about half year...  Sorry my bad english
 @Hyuuga_Neji, Awesome! Ah, your English is fine. 😊
 @Schyken, If you are running up onto budgie, there is a link to it in the welcome screen.
 Generally autocrat seem to be very different than the telegram people so far.
 @bashfulrobot, I've got some strange Ubuntu Alpha trio right now lol.
 Which one's?
 @Schyken ^^
 Is Lubuntu dev team the same that is porting Lubuntu to LXQt?
 @bashfulrobot, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE, and Lubuntu
 @Hyuuga_Neji, Yes.
 Sorry I'm not trying to hijack Simon group here, but thanks for testing that out.
 @bashfulrobot, np at all ;)
 How are user base is still pretty small.
 Fwd from bashfulrobot: Our user base is still pretty small.
 Doesn't show up in IRC
 (edits don't)
 Ohhh. Sorry.
 @bashfulrobot, np :)
 Thanks for the tip
 I've seen a benchmark between lxde and LXQt...  ¿What about the ram consume?
 @Hyuuga_Neji, Both should consume about the same amount of RAM, although LXQt is reported to use slightly more.
 Nothing noticable at all.
 What is the idle ram? Curious. We were pushing on that did 17.10 in Ubuntu Budgie.
 In 17.10*
 @bashfulrobot, 200-300 MB of RAM afair
 Actually, that's the least it can run on
 It's probably less idle RAM
 @tsimonq2, Yes that's i was talking about
 Nice! We *used* to be 2.5gb (ow!) But are now down to 600-700mb. Just buy canning Gnome tracker and related apps.
 By canning*
 I have an old laptop (1.5 GB RAM ddr1)  and Lubuntu 16.04 run as well as you can expect
 Agh. No correction kills me in spelling. Ha.
 @Hyuuga_Neji, Wonderful! It should continue to work well even with LXQt, from what I can tell so far.
 @bashfulrobot, Cans. Beans come in cans. I like beans. Therefore I like Ubuntu Budgie.
 XSD
 *XD
 @Schyken, Hard to argue with logic like that.
 @tsimonq2, That's a wonderfull new
 @bashfulrobot, lol
 @bashfulrobot, Chicken logic is best logic 🐔
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 @Schyken, So you have Nando's by where you live? My fav chicken.
 @bashfulrobot, I wish! I could go for some cheeky Nando's. Had it once when I was over in Tennessee.
 They are everywhere here. I eat 1-2 times a week.
 Also, I always call it cheeky Nando's because we were driving by once, and my friend in the backseat said it in a really awful cockney accent. Stuck ever since
 @Schyken, lol
 Back to testing Alpha 2 ;)
 I'm picking up shortly.
 @Schyken, Have a githum account?
 github*
 @bashfulrobot, Yeah 😊
 What is the account?
 @bashfulrobot, @Schyken
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 for my case (an old laptop with 2GB ram), the Arch+lxqt works fine, if you don't start the browser....even the so-called lightweight qupzilla jam the OS
 back in the good old days where Google doesn't make chromium like giant, chromium works properly on lubuntu10.04 with only 256MB ram and 1G swap
 except for video playback...was and is a disaster for low class PC
 @brli7848, I see.
 That's really disappointing.
 But, browser makers do that... 😐
 I think video playback in general is just a pita with lower end hardware
 Celeron N3050 can barely handle 720P playback in many cases 😆
 yeah, when you're under lower-end, don't expect for modern usage of internet/entertainment...
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[07:58] <neo__> hi
[08:00] <neo__> hello
 Heyo
[08:02] <neo__> i installed lubnutu directly into a usb drive
[08:02] <neo__> but it stuck on startup saying loading initial ramdisk
[08:03] <neo__> any idea
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 @leonardogorres, Hi!
[18:39] <lynorian> is alternate supposed to default to 4 workspaces?
[22:05] <lynorian>  bug 1706789 tsimonq2 ^
[22:10] <tsimonq2> lynorian: ack
[22:11] <lynorian> could this be another seed problem?
[22:11] <tsimonq2> I'm confident it's another seed problem
[22:45] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Next Desktop amd64 [Artful Alpha 2] has been marked as ready
[22:45] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Next Desktop i386 [Artful Alpha 2] has been marked as ready
 @julienlavergne Could you please look at this as soon as possible? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1633913


 well they talk about Ubuntu Rolling Rhino the first minutes (re @Maik_aD: @bittin1 you know this has nothing to do with what this group and irc channel are meant for? ;))
 @bittin1 I agree with Maik & Thomas that posting about Saloon (fedora) is very off-topic; please don't do it.  Thanks @teward001
 thanks too @Maik_aD
 This group and IRC channel is for testing of any of the ubuntu flavours and remixes. Your reply wasn't about that. (re @bittin1: well they talk about Ubuntu Rolling Rhino the first minutes)
 No problem :) (re @guiverc: thanks too @Maik_aD)
 well Rolling Rhino is the Devel testing variant, but sure (re @Maik_aD: This group and IRC channel is for testing of any of the ubuntu flavours and remixes. Your reply wasn't about that.)
 Rolling Rhino is a script to convert Ubuntu into a "rolling release" that tracks the devel series. So it doesn't count here. This group and IRC channel is used for QA testing. You should know that. And now let's move on. (re @bittin1: well Rolling Rhino is the Devel testing variant, but sure)
 ok
 Just provide context next time /end of argument (re @bittin1: well they talk about Ubuntu Rolling Rhino the first minutes)
 /end


[03:49] <squish102> does anyone use mythbuntu as a frontend booting off a usb thumbdrive?
[06:04] <pretender> getting the following dependency error when installing Vive in ubuntu 8,10 Dependency is not satisfiable: libavcodec0d  How do I resolve this
[08:01] <Raspberry> yo :)
[08:02] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, :)
[08:03] <Raspberry> so I have two shows (recorded back to back) that never actually recorded due to tuner setup issues (I was trying to get record some non-digital shows through the V4L /dev/video0 interface) -- and it didn't work
[08:03] <Raspberry> but they're stuck in the Recorded Shows
[08:03] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, I have seen that when the tunner failes to tune, but you would have to review the mythbackend.log to really figure out the "why" but the how to fix it, you could use phpmyadmin to access the table to find the records with sql and remove them...it prob failing to remove them because the files don't exist
[08:03] <Raspberry> yeah the file size reported is 0
[08:04] <Raspberry> I'm a webdev so I'm fine using phpmyadmin -- I just don't want to create a bigger mess later
[08:04] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, yeah...understandable
[08:04] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, I have done it a few times
[08:04] <foxbuntu> you just have to clean them out of one table
[08:05] <Raspberry> Every time I start "fixing" things on my own... if I ever come in here and need help with some other issue... people chew me out for whatever I did on totally unrelated things :p
[08:06] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, yeah...opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and they have a tenancy to stink
[08:06] <Raspberry> so in the mythconverg db, recorded table... do I just need to chuck out the two rows that are causing me problems?
[08:07] <foxbuntu> recordedprogram
[08:07] <foxbuntu> thats the table
[08:07] <Raspberry> I see them in recorded too
[08:07] <foxbuntu> sorry yes, both tables
[08:08] <Raspberry> there's only 1 entry in recordedprogram and two entries in recorded... maybe that's the issue
[08:08] <foxbuntu> could be
[08:08] <foxbuntu> then: sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[08:08] <foxbuntu> and they should be gone for good
[08:08] <Raspberry> k
[08:09] <Raspberry> one more Q quick :)  Is there an easy way to reset the status of mythweb
[08:09] <Raspberry> or the look rather
[08:10] <Raspberry> something happened when I accessed it from my phone and now it's stuck on a blank white page
[08:10] <Raspberry> I'd love to help out on the project -- I'm trying to step back from my businesses that I run ... so that I can get more time to play with stuff like this :)
[08:10] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, strange, you could do this: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:11] <Raspberry> nope, that doesn't do it
[08:11] <Raspberry> I've restartd the box
[08:11] <Raspberry> it's been blank for a couple of months
[08:11] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, ok, so its really strange
[08:11] <Raspberry> yeah, the page source is actually blakn
[08:11] <Raspberry> but it prompts for login and requires the valid user/pass
[08:12] <Raspberry> I could PURGE the module I suppose
[08:12] <Raspberry> maybe that'd do it
[08:12] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mythweb
[08:13] <Raspberry> giving that a shot now
[08:14] <foxbuntu> k
[08:18] <Raspberry> it's still blank
[08:18] <Raspberry> what's a page / link under mythweb/
[08:18] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, let me get you one
[08:18] <Raspberry> that I could call directly because this just dumps me on the index... maybe there's a problem with that
[08:19] <Raspberry> thx fox
[08:19] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, what did you do?!
[08:19] <foxbuntu> mine is blank now too
[08:19] <foxbuntu> lol
[08:19] <Raspberry> heh
[08:19] <Raspberry> maybe I should file a bug :p
[08:20] <Raspberry> it's been blank for a few months now
[08:20] <foxbuntu> mine hasnt
[08:20] <foxbuntu> but then again I dont update this box very often
[08:22] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, hmm...looks like a php issue perhaps
[08:22] <Raspberry> maybe
[08:23] <Raspberry> I'll have to poke around -- I thought it was just a config / saved state issue
[08:23] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, yeah...file a bug
[08:25] <Raspberry> j
[08:25] <Raspberry> er, k
[08:25] <Raspberry> that's cool... the new Synaptic has screenshot support
[08:25] <Raspberry> maybe I should join facebook one of these days ... everybody else is doing it
[08:26] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, naw...I never did either
[08:26] <foxbuntu> :)
[08:26] <Raspberry> k
[08:27] <Raspberry> i think I'll keep in the shadows then too
[08:28] <Raspberry> is launchpad the appropriate place for logging bugs on this?  (I'd assume so)
[08:28] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, yes
[08:28] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, we can pass it upstream to MythTV if its their problem
[08:34] <Raspberry> k
[08:36] <Raspberry> foxbuntu: I just checked my logs... this might be our culprit... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/329053
[08:38] <Raspberry> commenting out the two "NULL" lines fixes the issue
[08:38] <Raspberry> in /etc/apache2/sites-available/mythweb.conf
[08:38] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, well guess I was right, its PHP
[08:39] <Raspberry> yeah, I checked the /var/log/apache2/error.log and that made it pretty obvious
[08:41] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, actually after reading further its a packaging bug left over from older installs of mythweb
[08:41] <Raspberry> apparently this is the real fix?
[08:41] <Raspberry> sudo mv /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess.obsolete
[08:41] <Raspberry> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:41] <foxbuntu> yup
[08:42] <Raspberry> I'll fix it the right way then :p
[08:42] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, this is going to become a very comely asked question i thinks
[08:42] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, Im going to get this documented quickly
[08:42] <Raspberry> maybe put it in the topic :)   MythWeb blank?  Read this...
[08:42] <Raspberry> :p
[08:43] <Raspberry> thx for all your help, btw
[08:51] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, no problem
[08:53] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, https://wiki.foxmediasystems.com/index.php/Ubuntu_MythWeb_Blank
[08:54] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, also...
[08:54] <foxbuntu> !mythweb% | Raspberry
[08:54] <Zinn> Raspberry: This is a known issue with a simple work around: https://wiki.foxmediasystems.com/index.php/Ubuntu_MythWeb_Blank
[08:55] <foxbuntu> now its documented
[08:55] <foxbuntu> kees, good work on the Mythweb PHP5 issue
[08:58] <Raspberry> yup the mv htaccess thing works
[09:04] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, cool..
[09:07] <foxbuntu> Raspberry, well I am off to bed
[09:07] <Raspberry> thanks again
[09:07] <Raspberry> g'night
[10:24] <HermitZ> Hello all, any one up for helping a linux noob?
[10:41] <HermitZ> !help
[10:41] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[17:50] <cwood> I've got mythbuntu 9.04 beta installed.  I got audio working over HDMI to my tv.  However, it seems the audio only works during SD shows or commercials.  When a digital show comes on, the audio goes away.  If I change channels I can get audio, but when I come back I still don't have it.  Any ideas?
[17:51] <cwood> I should clarify, all the stations are digital.  Just the shows that are higher resolution have trouble.
[18:10] <cwood> I wonder if these shows are putting out an audio format (5.1?) that my tv doesn't do.
[18:28] <gbutters> cwood, in setup>general do you have enable ac3 or dts to spdif enabled??
[18:29] <gbutters> If you do try disabling them
[18:36] <cwood> Ok, I'll check. I was just looking at it and the show had a choir going and I could hear them, but when they finished and the speaker started, I couldn't hear the speaker.
[18:51] <cwood> Switching it to stereo on that screen worked.  My TV cuts off the left edge of that screen so I can't see if the ac3 or dts is selected.
[18:55] <cwood> Odd question alert...  If a system is setup to use the wakeup acpi options, what if the system is asleep and the person wants to watch live tv?  how do they wake it up?  Just press the power button?
[19:26] <cwood> Gotta run, thanks for the help with the audio
[22:21] <rockx0zone> I am having a hard time getting the remote to work with the HVR-1600.  i am using version 9.04. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:35] <rockx0zone> anyone awake?


[00:01] <daftykins> :D :D
[07:53] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:58] <zmoylan-pi> international oh flip it's thursday day :-)
[08:07] <MooDoo> yay thursday
[08:08] <mapp> yay
[08:08] <mapp> hi MooDoo
[09:18] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:20] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: hows the brain this morning?
[09:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: just ordered a couple of hard drives to put in a spare server, so I can install MAAS on it
[09:30] <MooDoo> take it from there
[09:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: nice :)
[09:31] <MooDoo> davmor2: not that it's hard to do, looks a standard install, but you just tell it that it's a first MAAS setup and it does the rest for you [I watched a vid on it]
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Lost Penny Day! :-D
[10:25] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:26] <popey> yo
[10:26] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon
[10:27] <MooDoo> and JamesTait
[10:27] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:27] <JamesTait> brobostigon, popey, MooDoo: o/
[10:28] <brobostigon> morning JamesTait
[11:06] <davmor2> JamesTait: Find a penny pick it up all day long you'll have a penny
[11:06] <zmoylan-pi> and a sore back if you're not careful as you get older
[11:58] <ThomasRedstone> davmor2, and if you're Bill Gates you'll have wasted around £300 of time...
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> and have thrown off the crazed linux snipers... :-P
[12:21] <awilkins> Arrgh, chosing a NAS
[12:21] <awilkins> WAnt ; 2 bay NAS that does RAID 1
[12:22] <awilkins> Candidates so far : Asus AS5002T ; newer shinier hardware with moah powah (100Mbyte/s transfer speeds)
[12:22] <awilkins> Netgear ReadyNAS 102 : less new less shiny hardware (50Mbyte/s) but uses btrfs for it's file system
[12:22] <awilkins> (Asus one uses boring old ext4)
[12:25] <awilkins> Sod it, will go with the Asus
[12:26] <awilkins> Has an x86_64 processor, Netgear one is Marvell/ARM
[12:48] <diddledan> I think I'm gonna go get some chocolate to soothe my aches and pains and cough
[12:48] <diddledan> there's nothing more thereputic than binge-eating :-p
[12:49] <davmor2> diddledan: oh come on hitting F5 to get an ubuntu phone yesterday can't of worn you out that much ;)
[12:49] <diddledan> davmor2, I got some kind of flu (don't say manflu! :-p)
[12:50] <davmor2> diddledan: oh a slight sniffle ;)
[12:50] <diddledan> aye, it's knocked me sideways for over a week now
[13:05] <popey> haha
[13:28] <diddledan> popey, how very callous to laugh at the afflicted :-p
[13:59] <MooDoo> davmor2: fedup will work if i link it to apt-get ;)
[14:00] <davmor2> MooDoo: hahaha
[14:01] <diddledan> o_O
[14:03] <brobostigon> apt-get install coffee-input-plugin
[14:06] <MooDoo> diddledan: i said I was fedup, and davmor2 said that won't work on Ubuntu ;
[14:06] <MooDoo> :)
[14:07] <diddledan> ash
[14:07] <diddledan> aah**
[14:08] <davmor2> diddledan: you're missing the context on facebook :)
[14:15] <MooDoo> it was quite funny
[15:20] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[15:21] <MooDoo> howdy bigcalm
[15:22] <bigcalm> Any more for any more at http://doodle.com/4sdaaswwngu4n2bm ?
[15:22] <bigcalm> I'm closing the poll later today
[15:26]  * diddledan feels his calm embiggened
[15:26] <bigcalm> o.O
[15:26] <diddledan> poor attempt at nick-related humour :-p
[15:26] <bigcalm> I get it a lot
[15:27] <bigcalm> Though I'm usually mistaken for a big clam
[15:27] <diddledan> lol
[15:29] <diddledan> a nick I used to go by alot was "Fremen" pronounced like the tribal group on arrakis' name but despite my constant prodding people would insist on calling me "Free man"
[15:30] <diddledan> and of course on less geeky places it would evoke comments about "Gordon Freeman" from the half-life games
[16:50] <awilkins> They backported the Unity notification numeric indicators from Utopic to Trusty I think
[16:54] <diddledan> nowai?
[16:54] <diddledan> what are those? :-p
[17:32] <Azelphur> well uhh, that server I was talking about yesterday, Hetzner appear to have just given it to us and not billed us
[17:33] <zmoylan-pi> shhhhhhhh
[17:33] <zmoylan-pi> you'll jinx it
[17:33] <Azelphur> lol
[17:40] <sebalicious> Hey guys, I did just ask over at #ubuntu but I don't think anyone there knows: Has anyone had any success building fglrx 14.12 on the 14.9 kernel?
[17:41] <popey> probably nobody there did it
[17:41]  * popey doesn't use amd video cards
[17:42] <sebalicious> Radeon are a bit of good and bad with linux at times
[17:42] <sebalicious> I can get it to build with 3.18.6 no worries, but on 3.19 it fails with no glaringly obvious error
[17:43] <sebalicious> http://pastebin.com/juB7wkiP
[17:45] <bigcalm>  I've been tasked with finding myself a machine from Dell for the office. Some of the machines are coming with AMD/ATI cards with 4 HDMI ports on them. No idea if they work with linux though
[17:45] <zmoylan-pi> don't they sell systems with ubuntu these days?
[17:46] <intrbiz> sebalicious: according to the release notes it's not supported against 3.19
[17:47] <intrbiz> sebalicious: I suspect there are changes in the kernel which the fglrx code hasn't been updated to support
[17:49] <intrbiz> sebalicious: eg, __get_cpu_var of include/linux/percpu-defs.h has been moved around etc
[17:51] <intrbiz> bigcalm: I used to use AMD card with dual head no worries at last job
[17:51] <intrbiz> bigcalm: IRRC for dual head + glx you need the fglrx driver and use the catalyst control centre to configure the monitors
[17:52] <Laney> aaaaaaaahhhhh
[17:52] <bigcalm>  intrbiz I think that having all of the heads on one card will be fairly usable
[17:52] <Laney> why do I still have that helpful virgin DNS thing turned on?
[17:54] <DJones> Laney: PEBKAC
[17:54] <intrbiz> bigcalm: yeh, one card many heads is the most reliable solution usually
[17:54] <Laney> NO
[17:54] <Laney> PEBVAC
[17:55] <Laney> 'virus safe' was turned on
[17:55] <Laney> seems to have fixed it
[17:57] <intrbiz> bigcalm: how many displays are you after?
[17:58] <bigcalm> intrbiz: 3
[17:58] <bigcalm> intrbiz: it's what I have at home
[18:00] <intrbiz> bigcalm: used to use Dell Optiplex 9020 SFF, with AMD gfx cards and all dual head, mostly running Ubuntu
[18:01] <bigcalm> Fair enough
[18:01] <bigcalm> I think it's time to leave Shrewsbury
[18:01] <bigcalm> So I shall look at finding a machine once I get home
[20:53] <sebsebseb> yay I am on Giffgaff now
[20:53] <sebsebseb> :)
[21:37] <popey> That's good, right?
[21:41] <diddledan> lol: http://www.geek.com/apps/police-respond-to-twitter-bot-sending-death-threat-to-another-twitter-bot-1615550/
[21:41] <sebsebseb> popey: yes
[21:42] <sebsebseb> popey: I thin I won't bother porting over my old number to,  so I guess I should just ring htem up again to make really cler I want to still leave
[21:42] <sebsebseb> bye Orange//EE
[21:43] <daftykins> sebsebseb: just don't dump them on Saturday
[21:43] <sebsebseb> daftykins: heh
[21:43] <sebsebseb> yeah
[21:44] <sebsebseb> daftykins: ,but it was never a love hate relationship,  it was more of a dislike relationship,  since  I got a rather bad contract really with the subsided phone I gogt
[21:44] <daftykins> ah :(
[21:44] <sebsebseb> plus they been making a bit more money out of me recnetly in recent mnths as a result to
[21:44] <daftykins> we have less competition down here on Guernsey, so picking a telco was never too tough
[21:44] <sebsebseb> yes going over the minutes which were hardly any as well
[21:45] <sebsebseb> 100 minutes is a joke when you actsauly start phoning  someone enough
[21:48] <sebsebseb> I'll save money like this to
[21:48] <sebsebseb> :)
[21:48] <sebsebseb> altough that wuld probably just get spent on other things instead that amount, but anyway :d
[21:48] <daftykins> ;)
[21:48] <sebsebseb> daftykins:  I was paying like well I thought itw as £10
[21:48] <daftykins> i could afford 2 beers a month if i cut my contract down
[21:48] <sebsebseb> or maybe it was for a while
[21:48] <sebsebseb> then
[21:49] <sebsebseb> yah £15 or whatever, but for sucky contrac,t ok phone got subside or whatever, but hmm
[21:49] <daftykins> i go SIM only, phone subsidy is a waste :D
[21:49] <sebsebseb> anything more htan £10 is a bit much in my case really,  since  not phoneing lots of people etc
[21:49] <sebsebseb> or texting lots
[21:49] <sebsebseb> daftykins: yes I won't do a sub sided phone again
[21:50] <sebsebseb> got  this Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini via phones 4 u  about two years agothough,  but that was then and yeah
[21:50] <sebsebseb> now I got a Jolla phone :)
[21:50] <sebsebseb> soon I will hopefully be able to get an Ubuntu Phone to
[21:50] <sebsebseb> daftykins: would have got hte Nexus 4 like two years ago, but was sold out then so
[21:51]  * sebsebseb waits for Wednesday,  since will play a little joke on somoene with the new number heh
[21:52] <daftykins> i'm hoping to wean myself off the new phone habits, i buy retail down here to get unlocked handsets that can be used in England etc
[21:53] <sebsebseb> daftykins: maybe it's god to change number in my case now really I mean I even in the autummm had some kind of app  subscribed to my number
[21:53] <sebsebseb> ,but I never subscried to that
[21:53] <sebsebseb> and got charged £4 a week for like two months, when wasnt' really using my phone to since something,  and then I find out hmm
[21:53] <sebsebseb> daftykins: so you get a bill for like £30  andyeah
[21:53] <daftykins> ouch
[21:54] <daftykins> never had that thankfully
[21:54] <sebsebseb> so rang  the thing up the contact number
[21:54] <sebsebseb> and they stopped the app
[21:54] <sebsebseb> ,but the guy was like you shoudl email.... for a refund, however never really got  round to it...
[21:54] <sebsebseb> could try now, but I guess it's £30 down the drain either way
[21:54] <sebsebseb> daftykins: then  occassionly you get these unknown odd calls to,  or voices messages left etc
[21:56] <sebsebseb> daftykins: uknown call whilst at the cinema watching a film even, but my phone was quite silient :d,  but could feel it in the pocket
[21:57] <sebsebseb> daftykins: Gurensey I wa wondering  like last ight where you were from since  you were in #ubuntu stil l active ike an American and it was like 3am or something :d
[21:57] <daftykins> XD
[21:58] <daftykins> yeah i'm on pretty messed up time you could say.
[21:58] <shauno> "one of us" :)
[21:58] <sebsebseb> Gurensey  is  kind of interesitng I guess,but not been there, and it's small
[21:58] <sebsebseb> shauno: your an American?
[21:59] <shauno> nah, another one with my own personal timezone
[21:59] <daftykins> sebsebseb: i have some snaps if you'd like to see - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/em6gqyhhbc4e01p/AABQs8TfctEw71KQk337hhTFa?dl=0
[22:00] <diddledan> I've been unable to keep to odd hours the past week
[22:01] <diddledan> I suck at being abnormal
[22:01] <daftykins> lol
[22:01] <daftykins> wanna trade?
[22:02] <diddledan> yeah, you can have my fluey thing
[22:02] <shauno> pic 17/28 - a customs mailbox?  and what's the second language on it?
[22:03] <diddledan> shauno, that's a chav name
[22:03] <diddledan> "douane, get shantelle and take her to mcdonalds"
[22:04] <daftykins> nooooo no more illness thanks, only just 'normal' again after the shingles thing :>
[22:04] <diddledan> I feel ya
[22:05] <daftykins> shauno: French probably :) yeah foreigners can moor up in the harbour so... they must have to do some paperwork
[22:05] <diddledan> so if you brought something to guernsey illegally, you pop it in the postbox?
[22:05] <daftykins> lol
[22:05] <daftykins> i've never looked closely at those, i'll have a glance sometime maybe
[22:06] <diddledan> I wonder how the paperwork is enforced when someone turns up and doesn't file papers and then leaves again?
[22:08] <shauno> there's probably an old lady feeding duck, who glares sternly and tuts
[22:09] <diddledan> is that the correct collective noun?
[22:09] <shauno> nope, I can't type well when I'm sideways
[22:09] <diddledan> or should I read it as "an old-lady-feeding duck"?
[22:10] <shauno> I'm supposed to be packing, but I just started watching 'house of cards'
[22:10] <diddledan> lol
[22:10] <diddledan> oops?
[22:10] <shauno> 4 or 5 episodes in and I'm not even sure where my suitcase is.  this won't end well
[22:11] <diddledan> daftykins, there's some serious green in this one: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/em6gqyhhbc4e01p/AACR3ARWlM8NiG3jVbdCB2o_a/IMG_20130812_182944.jpg?dl=0
[22:11] <daftykins> ;)
[22:11] <daftykins> diddledan: that's the British Isles closest Church to a Pub, i believe
[22:12] <daftykins> at least they used to tout that claim
[22:12] <diddledan> lol
[22:12] <daftykins> the separation of Church and Booze
[22:14] <shauno> I was gonna say dublin has a pub in a church, but it seems it's not a church anymore
[22:14]  * popey returns
[22:16] <zmoylan-pi> a lot of churches aren't churches anymore
[22:17] <shauno> seems like a fair trade to me, ireland needs more pubs ;)
[22:18] <zmoylan-pi> a lot fewer pubs too. prices are too high and drink driving limit lowered to levels where sniffing a wine gum puts you at risk
[22:21] <mapp> hi all
[22:22] <shauno> I finally sold my car. that was a whole lot more effort than it was worth
[22:23] <diddledan> teehee: http://geekxgirls.com/article.php?ID=1878
[22:23] <mapp> whats up
[22:24] <diddledan> allo mapp
[22:24] <diddledan> byebye mapp - I'm off to bed
[23:31] <ali1234> oh, i see the problem here
[23:32] <ali1234> raspbian uses rpi-update to download the foundation kernel
[23:32] <ali1234> oops wrong channel
[23:38] <brobostigon> :)
[23:56] <daftykins> ;]