[13:51] <stqn> hi
[15:33] <smalliv> Hello everyone I am new at Ubuntu development and have one question about development in Quickly, if somebody have a 2 minutes spare time
[15:34] <smalliv> Hello ?
[15:35] <stqn> hi, just ask your question, maybe someone will answer
[15:35] <stqn> (probably not :P)
[15:45] <smalliv>  I started and finished first tutorial , the one with screencast how to develop first App( simple browser). So I followed instructions and my App works but when I enter url in urlentry field I am getting error: cannot resolve proxy hostname, and a button "try again" i tried to access multiple websites with this simple app. So, my question is about mine implementation of WebKit, because I can run application, also i can print
[15:47] <smalliv> but it seems WebKit can't access web sites. I am using Chromoum and Firefox and when I enter Url I can access everything. But in this sample app it is impossible ? Why ?
[15:49] <smalliv> Error is "Unable to load page  Problem occurred while loading the URL http://www.google.com/  Cannot resolve proxy hostname ()". So this is question
[15:50] <smalliv> If somebody have time to give me a hint it would be great! thanks
[16:05] <smalliv> Well, I will wait here, if somebody have solution.
[16:11] <stqn> I don’t… just in case you’re wondering.
[16:13] <smalliv> Ok, thanks. I just find out for IRC channel. I will try later and figure out myself.


[02:19] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  if you like, You can look at this it is working https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/unity-scope-mythtv
[02:19] <bobweaver>  Also added to repo located https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta
[02:29] <bobweaver> maybe also if we could get that branch onto lp:ubuntutv That would be a great thing
[04:56] <morphias> bobweaver, im here :)
[04:57] <bobweaver> morphias,  are you sure that you made all the correct steps
[04:57] <bobweaver> lets try something new shall we
[04:57] <morphias> im about to redo it
[04:58] <morphias> unless i should do something new
[04:58] <bobweaver> open terminal
[04:58] <morphias> kk
[04:58] <bobweaver> mkdir ~/Desktop/build
[04:59] <bobweaver> cd ~/Desktop/build
[04:59] <bobweaver> apt-get source unity
[05:00] <morphias> kk
[05:01] <bobweaver> cd unity-6.8.0/
[05:01] <bobweaver> mkdir build
[05:02] <bobweaver> cd  build
[05:02] <morphias> kk
[05:03] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get build-dep unity
[05:03] <morphias> kk
[05:03] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get build-dep libnux-3.0-0
[05:03] <morphias> ah
[05:05] <bobweaver> ?
[05:05]  * bobweaver makes mix drink
[05:06] <morphias> first time running that
[05:06] <morphias> lol dont get too buzzed :/
[05:07] <morphias> anyhow.. im to the point with the build on that new source for unity and it hasn't given me that error
[05:07] <bobweaver> qtcreator ../CMakeLists.txt
[05:08] <bobweaver> lets hope you are not skiping steps
[05:08] <bobweaver> not sure what lib is not being called in in Cmakelist.txt that Nux is not calling in
[05:08] <bobweaver> but I am a sniffer at a debuger :)
[05:09] <morphias> see it gave me that error around 25% progress now it made it to 50% so its doing good
[05:10] <bobweaver> Error or warning ?
[05:10] <morphias> none so far
[05:11] <morphias> starting to see why i might want a dev desktop computer at some point now
[05:11] <morphias> all i have around the house is laptops
[05:11] <morphias> hehe
[05:11] <bobweaver> you are not the only one ;)
[05:11] <morphias> i like stepping outside to smoke and bringing the laptop with
[05:12] <bobweaver> we all do
[05:12] <bobweaver> that is something that is bothering me
[05:13] <bobweaver> like when Unity sat down at the last Uds Ubutnu phone and Tv where not in picture but I am sure that there are great wonderfull things to come I just dont know if *I* Like the idea of moving away from armel basedthings for opengles coding
[05:15] <bobweaver> and because you are on 12.10 you would have to re-write libunity (50 + C++ files ) it makes it way more then a one man job
[05:16] <bobweaver> re-writing the C++ is easy it is keeping up with the Unity team that is the real trouble
[05:16] <morphias> oh.
[05:16] <bobweaver> Like I made Ubuntu TV frontend in Unity 3d
[05:16] <bobweaver> but one week later code would not work
[05:17] <bobweaver> due to libunity and people not talking to me
[05:17] <bobweaver> so there is furstartion
[05:17] <bobweaver> that is something that I should point out
[05:17] <bobweaver> code that I made runing on friends panda
[05:18] <morphias> hmm
[05:18] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcepB1E1lX0
[05:18] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOacuIldM8
[05:19] <bobweaver> all I had to do was add dbus too gnome.sessions.background.sesssions
[05:19] <bobweaver> add previews and also slider
[05:20] <bobweaver> but the thing about it is asa follows
[05:20] <bobweaver> as
[05:20] <bobweaver> Unity is young and fast paced
[05:21] <bobweaver> there is no time for other form facors
[05:21] <bobweaver> factors *
[05:21] <bobweaver> they should be wrote in due time
[05:21] <bobweaver> meaning
[05:22] <bobweaver> that Ubuntu TV and Phone should stay on the QT interface Untill the next long term support realse is due
[05:22] <bobweaver> aka using the 12,04 repos or **** makings are own
[05:23] <bobweaver> that way we can make a real real real good Mythtv api / xbmc / android/ anything / prius dash board compatibly
[05:24] <morphias> hmm.
[05:24] <bobweaver> then fir next LTS make the switch to Unity 3d
[05:24] <bobweaver> for Ubutnu TV and for Ubuntu Phine
[05:24] <bobweaver> Phone *
[05:25] <bobweaver> make a tried and tested blueprint
[05:26] <bobweaver> then move to other interface well studying the ups and downfalls of a new based interface aka unity 3d on armel
[05:26] <morphias> Well the build successfully ran.
[05:26] <bobweaver> It is ****ALL****  about armel in the tv manufacturing scope
[05:27] <bobweaver> morphias,  so you are now runing unity stadalone ? '
[05:27] <bobweaver> if so great job
[05:27] <bobweaver> I got all caught up in ideas
[05:27] <morphias> i did ... then closed it
[05:28] <morphias> you got good ideas man
[05:28] <bobweaver> now you can make your Unity what ever the way you want in c++
[05:29] <bobweaver> as far as filing bugs and what not and gathering info on bugs harvest and launchpad are the place for that
[05:29] <morphias> lol... true... been wanting to make my panel a nice blue and with the unity tweak not being compatible with 12.10 this is kinda cool for me
[05:30] <bobweaver> we are alway's looking for any community volunteering that anyone would like to DO
[05:30] <bobweaver> morphias,  with us understanding that Unity 3d is young
[05:30] <morphias> but i am more interested in looking at bugs and seeing if i can fix one.
[05:30] <bobweaver> we also understand that we are makinga gaming engine to its own
[05:31] <bobweaver> ahh then harvest is you ticket
[05:31] <bobweaver> that or launchpad
[05:32] <bobweaver> but you should learn to drive before starting big-block engines
[05:32] <bobweaver> ;_)
[05:33] <bobweaver> morphias,  did you log into or have troubles loging into harvest ?
[05:34] <morphias> oh i have harvest somewhere in my firefox tabs... i havent logged in i believe
[05:34] <bobweaver> harvest was more for bitsize bugs when mad (I think )
[05:35] <bobweaver> and still is [but needs a great webteam cough cough mhall119  :)
[05:36] <bobweaver> morphias,  C++ is great but there is also many many other things in open source and  Ubuntu
[05:36] <bobweaver> Unity Bugs are sadly not filed as much as I had hoped
[05:36] <bobweaver> when 12.04 came out and woopsie came into play
[05:37] <bobweaver> But anyhow
[05:37] <bobweaver> are you still there lol
[05:37] <morphias> yeah
[05:37] <bobweaver> install dconf-editor
[05:37] <morphias> got signed in
[05:38] <bobweaver> sweet
[05:39] <morphias> apt-get couldn't find dconf-editor but I installed gconf-editor
[05:41] <morphias> oh nvm i already had it installed
[05:41] <morphias> dconf-tools
[05:41] <bobweaver> morphias, cout << " http://imagebin.org/233190 "  << "take a look"
[05:42] <bobweaver> This is are dbus interface
[05:42] <bobweaver> or deamon
[05:42] <bobweaver> listener *
[05:43] <bobweaver> A service that  can be turned on and o f
[05:43] <bobweaver> but there is a troubling thing
[05:43] <bobweaver> I make interface
[05:44] <bobweaver> dont work With next UNITY F$%^&*(ng version
[05:44] <bobweaver> due to lake of communication
[05:44] <bobweaver> here is video of that
[05:45] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcepB1E1lX0&webm=1    and that is on fri9iends panda board
[05:46] <bobweaver> but libunity moves so fast !!
[05:47] <bobweaver> Setting a form factor is only due for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_etbhWJoMo
[05:48] <morphias> cool vids
[05:52] <morphias> bobweaver, sorry about that.
[05:52] <bobweaver> About what ?
[05:52] <morphias> oh i disconnected for a bit.
[05:52] <bobweaver> morphias,  are you any good at gimp ?
[05:53] <morphias> beginner at best with gimp... i do well with gradients and thats pretty much it
[05:53] <morphias> been wanting to learn to do more..
[05:53] <bobweaver> er disconections are horrible I ran tor for a while
[05:53] <bobweaver> morphias,  there is a plugin for gimp
[05:54] <bobweaver> this will save you hundreds of dollors and it is  free
[05:54] <bobweaver> as in freedomand beer
[05:54] <bobweaver> Oo link
[05:55] <bobweaver> Time to watch more thingys lol
[05:55]  * bobweaver is in teach mode
[05:55] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BRJ1qJkjZM
[05:57] <bobweaver> you can get code here http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/gimp-qmlexporter/archive-tarball/master
[05:58] <bobweaver> then put file in ~/.gimp/export/    Or whatever it is
[06:00] <morphias> this is cool...
[06:04] <bobweaver> morphias,  now watch this after done please
[06:04] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4kv-AoAJ-Q
[06:05] <morphias> watching the next one
[06:05] <bobweaver> that can also be opengles
[06:05] <bobweaver> that video maes me dizzy lol
[06:06] <bobweaver> this one is better lol
[06:06] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRln8FJvKc
[06:07] <bobweaver> image that on a tv for control panel ?
[06:07] <morphias> now watching Shader effects and video ...
[06:10] <morphias> okay
[06:11] <bobweaver> that code can b frustrating to run I tell you what
[06:11] <bobweaver> make make clean ect
[06:13] <morphias> bedtime for me... later man
[06:13] <morphias> thanks for showing me everything
[06:13] <bobweaver> well morphias  now that you seen the screen shot of Dconf you can look at how" unity 3d standlone " and I guess that is the moving path. Now I maust go eat sushi
[06:13] <bobweaver> np have a good one !


[08:45] <knome> pretty chaotic here
[08:45] <knome> :P
[09:12] <kwwii> vish: heya, how are things?
[09:13] <vish> kwwii: just was about to ping you ;)
[09:13] <kwwii> good morning!
[09:13] <vish> evening ;)
[09:13] <kwwii> I am learning all about India, China, Pakistan and Kashmir :P
[09:14] <vish> lol..!


[01:02] <MichaelP> fresh iinstall kubuntu 14.10 plasma 5... power managerr is locked out ... Power management configuration modul could not be loaded. The power Management service appears not to be running. This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside statup and shutdown... startup and shutdown.. poer management already running
[01:36] <nosound> Is 14.10 frozen yet?
[01:38] <Daekdroom> !schedule
[01:39] <Daekdroom> (the direct answer is no)
[01:39] <nosound> i wish google foudn that link for me :( very useful
[01:45] <nosound> Is there info somewhere on how much stuff will get backported to 14.10?
[01:45] <nosound> 14.04*
[01:46] <nosound> The newer kernel is kinda important to me
[01:51] <MichaelP>  fresh iinstall kubuntu 14.10 plasma 5... power managerr is locked out ... Power management configuration modul could not be loaded. The power Management service appears not to be running. This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside statup and shutdown... startup and shutdown.. poer management already running
[09:29] <menace> ah
[09:30] <menace> hi, i am just installing the netboot 14.10 image, and i had several lvs/vgs on the disk before. It seems i cannot stop the nulling of the disk. is that right? any experience with that? i don't want any help i only ask before i'm going to look for a bug or open one :)
[09:34] <Raz1> Will unity7 be ported to MIR when unity8 is released - or will unity8 have some option to run a "flashback" mode so to speak
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:51] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[18:34] <pdo_fn14_> Okay, first I'm sorry to you All when this channel and #ubuntu was dirtied by overrated my problem.
[18:35] <pdo_fn14_> But I think can't say anymore why I can't understandable that. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8047435/
[18:36] <pdo_fn14_> My device won't worked when marked as ID 12d1:1520, it's just worked in ID 12d1:1465. Suspecting init job is actually wrong without PoC.
[18:40] <pdo_fn14_> Trying to change the grub line to use systemd as startup init still same loss.
[19:07] <pdo_fn14_> Once again more, I really apologize. Good bye, have nice dreams.


[06:42] <MooDoo> hello all
[11:58] <cprofitt> MooDoo: it is impossible to have a 'perfect' meeting time... too many time zones
[12:04] <MooDoo> cprofitt: I was just curious :D
[12:06] <Unit193> Also, to more properly put it, it is the IRC team meeting, not IRC council.
[12:38] <MooDoo> Unit193: thanks for the clarification
[12:39] <AlanBell> jose: can you change the fridge from "Ubuntu IRC Council Meeting" to "Ubuntu IRC Operator Team Meeting" please
[13:21] <cprofitt> MooDoo: Curiosity is a good thing...
[13:22] <DJones> cprofitt: Unless you're a cat
[13:22] <cprofitt> true
[13:23] <hggdh> OTOH, as a cat you would have more than one life
[13:23] <cprofitt> also true
[13:25] <MooDoo> lol some people call it being a nosey b**GGer ;)
[13:25] <MooDoo>  Then again it's the only way I can learn for when I'm in charge ;) lol
[13:26] <DJones> There's a philosophical question, has Shroedinger's cat used any of its 9 lives
[13:27] <MooDoo> DJones: who knows, are you prepared to open the box and take a look in ;)
[13:27] <Unit193> MooDoo: Also, you may want to set up SASL or CertFP. :P
[13:27] <DJones> Box? What box, I don't see a box
[13:28] <MooDoo> Unit193: I've not got round to secure irssi to freenode yet :)
[13:29] <DJones> MooDoo: There's a reason nobody has opened the box yet, nothing to do with not wanting to know the answer or anything else philosophical, its just would you open a box containing a starving, probably very angry, possibly turned feral cat with sharp claws
[13:30] <MooDoo> DJones: or it could be pandoras box cunningly disguised
[13:32] <IdleOne> Why are you people even contemplating opening Schrodinger's, isn't it his box?
[13:33] <IdleOne> box*
[13:33] <IdleOne> Stay out of peoples private boxes!
[13:33] <MooDoo> but but but I'm curious
[13:33] <IdleOne> What did I say?
[13:33] <cprofitt> the odd thing, is that even if I open the box and see a dead cat... Schrodinger would still not know the answer
[13:33] <IdleOne> WHAT DID I SAY!
[13:34] <cprofitt> so, in truth, it doesn't matter if we open it or not.
[13:34] <IdleOne> So, if I read your diary and you never find out is that ok?
[13:35] <cprofitt> IdleOne: no, that is not what I am saying...
[13:35] <cprofitt> it is still wrong... Schrodinger would know that we opened his box... he just wouldn't know about the status of his cat
[13:36] <IdleOne> So it does matter
[13:36] <DJones> cprofitt: He could just ask the NSA/GCHQ/Google, surely know anyway
[13:36] <cprofitt> no... he would only know what they told him... he would not actually know
[13:37] <IdleOne> which is exactly why nobody else should know
[13:42] <MooDoo> I've got to say this is the most surreal conversation I've seen in here lately....
[13:42] <MooDoo> So just to get off the subject of cats...
[13:42] <MooDoo> WHAT DID THE FOX SAY?
[13:45] <IdleOne> ask Schrodinger :P
[13:45] <MooDoo> LOL
[13:47] <DJones> MooDoo: The fox said, yummy, that cat tasted great
[13:48] <MooDoo> DJones: are you sure as we're not getting clarification the box was opened.
[13:48] <DJones> Could have been a different cat
[13:49] <MooDoo> DJones: see now your getting silly ;)
[14:24]  * rww kicks you all over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:27] <MooDoo> rww: :p
[14:27] <MooDoo> ;)
[15:21] <jose> AlanBell: name changed on the fridge
[15:23] <Unit193> Thanks, jose.
[15:23] <jose> :)


[02:22] <dhillon-v10> if bzr merge-package says nothing to do does that mean its a sync from Debian
[02:30] <crimsun> not necessarily
[02:37] <dhillon-v10> crimsun, the merge package command results in nothing to do message so what should I do now check the changelog file and do it myself
[02:39] <crimsun> dhillon-v10: yes, by-hand is feasible regardless of tool
[02:40] <dhillon-v10> crimsun, alright :) will you be around in like 5 mins. so i can show you the diff
[02:48] <crimsun> dhillon-v10: probably not, sorry
[02:50] <Anthropod16> hi, after having difficulty with karmic i am finally trying to reinstall my nvidia driver. after attempting to install the driver, i get this error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-190_190.53-0ubuntu1~karmic~nvidiavdpauppa8_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:25] <dirakx> Hi i uploaded a package to REVU, but is not showing..tha package is called Turtleart
[05:25] <dirakx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/507579
[05:26] <ScottK> How long ago?
[05:27] <dirakx> ScottK like two days ago.
[05:27] <dirakx> dput says Already uploaded to revu on revu.ubuntuwire.com
[05:29] <ScottK> Not sure what to say then.
[05:29] <ScottK> It takes 10 minutes or so for them to appear and sometimes people ask here immediately.
[05:31] <dirakx> Scottk i was having problems getting my pgp key authenticated..can it be the problem _
[05:32] <ScottK> Could be.
[05:32] <ScottK> We'd need a revu admin to really check and I don't know of any that are around right now.
[05:32] <dirakx> ScottK: oh o.k thanks for helping me out.
[05:57] <rhpot1991> isn't there some way to execute your get-orig-source from your debian/rules, or am I making up things in my head?
[06:03] <RAOF> rhpot1991: I'm not entirely sure what you want, but you can certainly run “debian/rules get-orig-source” to get the original source (where such a target has been written).
[06:04] <RAOF> rhpot1991: Actually trying to grab the original source as a part of the build process in your debian/rules file either won't work or will be strange enough to make people ask why you're doing it (depending on your make syntaxfu).
[06:05] <rhpot1991> RAOF: I seem to recall there was a way to just run that from a terminal and have it execute
[06:05] <rhpot1991> RAOF: I'm writing the section in my rules file and was looking for a good way to test it out
[06:11] <RAOF> You can.  Just run “debian/rules get-orig-source”
[06:11] <RAOF> If it's a policy-compliant rules file, that will work from a terminal.
[06:13] <rhpot1991> RAOF: thats it, I was a level off, thanks
[06:14] <RAOF> In fact, if it's policy compliant, you should be able to run that target from *any* directory.  But many rules files don't follow that particular part of policy.
[06:30] <rhpot1991> RAOF: been a while since I did a REVU, should I generate the orig.tar.gz myself ahead of time or just debuild without it then upload?
[06:31] <RAOF> You have to generate the orig.tar.gz beforehand; you can't build the source package without it.
[06:32] <RAOF> (Because the .diff.gz is the diff against the orig.tar.gz, so you need to have unpacked the orig.tar.gz first...)
[06:38] <RAOF> Actually, if you're packaging in a VCS (particularly git-buildpackage) that rule can be bent somewhat.  But you'll definitely need to have an orig.tar.gz for upload to REVU.
[06:42] <RAOF> Wow.  eglibc will be a nice outlier for pbuilder-on-tmpfs benchmarking.
[07:16] <dholbach> good morning
[07:31] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[07:34] <hakaishi> Hi! Does "nuke" delete the whole package or just the upload?
[07:34] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[07:36] <hakaishi> nobody?
[07:37] <AnAnt> Hello, no UWN today ?
[07:38] <hakaishi> I have a question about REVU: Does "nuke" delete the whole package or just the upload?
[07:38] <maco> AnAnt:  is a holiday in the US. could have an effect....
[07:38] <StevenK> Oh? What's the holiday?
[07:38] <maco> well, holiday in the "no work or school or banks today" sense
[07:38] <mzuverink> Martin Luther King Day
[07:39] <maco> it's kinda like if India had "Gandhi Day"
[07:39] <maco> (or maybe it does for all i know(
[07:39] <mzuverink> Banks and postal, though more and nore banks are open
[07:39] <maco> *)
[07:40] <slytherin> maco: India has holiday on 2nd October (birth date of Mahatma Gandhi). :-)
[07:40] <maco> slytherin: good to know!
[07:41] <slytherin> On a side note it is also dry day in India.
[07:41] <maco> is there a wet day too?
[07:41] <maco> how about slightly damp day? and moist day?
[07:41]  * maco runs
[07:42] <AnAnt> slytherin: you mean today is a dry day or 2nd of Oct ?
[07:43] <slytherin> he he, 'Dry Day' means 'No Alcohol Consumption Day'. :-)
[07:43] <AnAnt> oh
[07:43] <slytherin> AnAnt: 2nd October
[07:43] <AnAnt> slytherin: yes, I understood that after you explained the meaning of "dry day"
[07:46] <hakaishi> Hey, does nobody know what nuke in REVU deletes?
[07:48] <ajmitch> hakaishi: I believe it removes all uploads of a source package
[07:49] <slytherin> hakaishi: nuke deletes all uploads. But only admins have nuke privileges.
[07:49] <slytherin> All uploads of a package
[07:49] <hakaishi> Okay, thank you ^^
[07:53] <vish> huh?
[07:55] <ajmitch> how annoying
[07:56] <vish> phew
[07:57] <Hobbsee> !staff
[07:57] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[08:00] <pagga> have you guys seen this: http://www.peoplesprimary.com/2010/01/17/ubuntu-10-preview ?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: hiya.  welcome to the waves
[08:01] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: yeah, I happen to be in wellington this week for lca
[08:02] <pagga> have you guys seen this: http://www.peoplesprimary.com/2010/01/17/ubuntu-10-preview ?
[08:02] <pagga> have you guys seen this: http://www.peoplesprimary.com/2010/01/17/ubuntu-10-preview ?
[08:02] <pagga> have you guys seen this: http://www.peoplesprimary.com/2010/01/17/ubuntu-10-preview ?
[08:02] <AnAnt_> pagga: are you one of them ?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: so i heard
[08:02] <pagga> one of who?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: having fun there?
[08:02] <ajmitch> I suspect so, given that url he's spamming
[08:02] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: yeah, it's a fun event
[08:02] <AnAnt_> ajmitch: yeah
[08:02] <AnAnt_> !staff
[08:02] <Hobbsee> dholbach: no point
[08:03] <dholbach> Hobbsee: I see :)
[08:03] <Hobbsee> dholbach: doesn't require being in the channel to do that
[08:03] <slytherin> Why is there so much flooding?
[08:03] <Hobbsee> slytherin: DDOS of the network
[08:03] <AnAnt_> dholbach: Hello
[08:03] <Hobbsee> i see i need to update my bad link filters
[08:03] <ajmitch> slytherin: because people are being bored & stupid
[08:03] <AnAnt_> dholbach: I didn't get any reply yet from Behdad !
[08:04] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I imagine you've been kept up to date on the happenings here then? :)
[08:04] <jussi01> dholbach: set modes +Rr
[08:04] <dholbach> AnAnt_: I think he's travelling, but I'm not sure
[08:04] <dholbach> jussi01: what does that do? :)
[08:04] <Hobbsee> dholbach: registered users only to join and talk
[08:04] <jmarsden> dholbach: registered usersonly mode
[08:04] <Hobbsee> oh, bleh.  my brower's still screwwed up
[08:05] <jussi01> Hobbsee: dholbach as per the global notices and wallops, use of +r and +R is helpful if youve access
[08:05] <jussi01> dont click that link!
[08:05] <Hobbsee> jussi01: please get your time machine out...
[08:05] <dholbach> I hope everybody's registered here
[08:05]  * ajmitch is registered :)
[08:06]  * StevenK thinks he is ...
[08:06] <ajmitch> StevenK: oh good evening sir
[08:06] <jussi01> dholbach: thanks, that should help
[08:06]  * StevenK waves
[08:06] <jussi01> dholbach: if they are not they should be.
[08:06] <Hobbsee> ah ha.  managed to turn javascript off
[08:06] <ajmitch> StevenK: how was wireless up your way?
[08:07] <StevenK> ajmitch: Here, in the hotel?
[08:07] <ajmitch> yeah
[08:07] <Hobbsee> jussi01: how does that help - it's not like you need to be in a channel to versoin it?
[08:07] <StevenK> Tis quite good, for NZ internet
[08:07] <ajmitch> I saw complaints about it in the lca channel, but I'm finding it to be fine
[08:07]  * StevenK hides
[08:07] <jussi01> Hobbsee: Im not sure of the specifics, but thats freenoddes recomendation, not mine ;)
[08:07] <ajmitch> ~170ms to fremont, it's not too bad
[08:07] <Hobbsee> jussi01: fair enough
[08:07] <maco> yay dholbach
[08:12] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: hey, were you an op in here for long?
[08:12] <Hobbsee> MTecknology: i have been for a number of years....
[08:12] <MTecknology> You guys have any idea what I screwed up on? http://paste.ubuntu.com/358385/
[08:12] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: I never noticed :P
[08:15] <MTecknology> I'm trying to make a package for the latest openbox but I think packaging hates me
[08:15] <slytherin> MTecknology: is there a configure script in upstream source?
[08:15] <jmarsden> MTecknology: Looks like either the tarball has no ./configure file in it, or else something you do deletes it ?
[08:16] <Hobbsee> MTecknology: well, i've not been around for a whole bunch of the year, so..
[08:16] <MTecknology> I guess I don't see one :(
[08:17] <jmarsden> MTecknology: If "the latest" means "grabbed from a VCS", that's common... you are expected to use autotools to create one when using a VCS by some projects...
[08:17] <jmarsden> If "latest" means a real upstream release... there should probably be one :)
[08:18] <MTecknology> jmarsden: I grabbed it like this - git clone git://git.openbox.org/dana/openbox openbox; cd openbox; git checkout release-3.4.10
[08:18] <jmarsden> MTecknology: Right.  So that's from git, a VCS, not a release tarball.
[08:18] <jmarsden> So itis up to you to create the configure script.
[08:18] <jmarsden> Is there a autogen.sh script you can run ?
[08:19] <MTecknology> jmarsden: nope..
[08:20] <jmarsden> You can try using autoreconf -- best bet though is to check what instructions upstream give their developers for compiling from git...
[08:23] <MTecknology> jmarsden: what package is that in?
[08:23] <MTecknology> jmarsden: actually, there is a configure.ac file in there
[08:23] <jmarsden> MTecknology: autoconf
[08:23] <jmarsden> MTecknology: Good, you'd be dead in the water creating a configure file without that :)
[08:25] <MTecknology> jmarsden: while I'm dloading- is there anything simple about packaging?
[08:26] <MTecknology> jmarsden: http://paste.ubuntu.com/358390/
[08:26] <jmarsden> MTecknology: well, packaging the hello app is pretty simple :)  It's the real world that tends to be messier :)
[08:27] <jmarsden> MTecknology: I could probably work to deal with that but I'm not really an autotools guru.  Can you find the upstream site where they explain to new developers how they are supposed to grab code from git and compile it, and use that info for insight into this?  That's the track I would try at this point in your place.
[08:28] <jmarsden> MTecknology: That msg *might* be a matter of which version of autotools the project wants you to use...
[08:29] <jmarsden> MTecknology: See if installing autoconf2.13 on your machine helps at all.
[08:29] <MTecknology> jmarsden: that wants a configure.in file
[08:30] <jmarsden> MTecknology: It shouldn't, that's what autoconf creates from configure.ac ... let me check a bit more ...
[08:30] <MTecknology> jmarsden: I can just keep bugging the developer and convince them to make the package and try to start a little easier
[08:31] <jmarsden> MTecknology: Right.  I think you convincing them to release a tarball is all you need to overcome this issue.
[08:31] <jmarsden> Their release process will include generating a configure file and including it in that tarball.
[08:32] <MTecknology> jmarsden: their developer knows what she's doin when it comes to packaging things. I'm just trying to do something for karmic
[08:33] <jmarsden> MTecknology: OK.  So can you not backport whatever they have for Lucid, rather than starting from git ?
[08:33] <StevenK> jmarsden: configure.in or configure.ac can be used
[08:34] <MTecknology> what's in lucid is 3.4.8 and the current stable is 3.4.10
[08:34] <jmarsden> MTecknology: OK, so get a release *tarball* of 3.4.10 and start with that, perhaps?
[08:34] <MTecknology> I'll need to see if they offer one anywhere
[08:35] <MTecknology> where is pbuilder data held?
[08:37] <jmarsden> My ~/.pbuilderrc overrides the defaults... :)  /var/cache/pbuilder/ I think
[08:38] <MTecknology> oh
[13:43] <Laney> What's the DH7 way to build arch-indep documentation?
[13:46] <hyperair> override the arch-indep rule, i should think
[13:47] <Laney> thought as much
[14:06] <Rchik> hi every1, does any1 have some spare time to answer the questions related to entering universe repository with our open source software product?
[14:06] <and`> Rchik: shoot
[15:01] <Quintasan> Hello
[15:11] <bddebian> Heya gang
[15:31] <sistpoty|work> hi bddebian
[15:33] <bddebian> Heya sistpoty|work
[15:44] <ramiro> hi
[15:44] <ramiro> what's the difference between a "devel" and a "libdevel" package in a debian/control file?
[15:51] <ramiro> a pointer to any documentation on the issue would be nice...
[16:24] <DktrKranz> nhandler, dholbach: I've just been picked for a out-of-office work day on 21st, I'll be out of town for almost all day, I'll probably be able to take my session at 20 UTC, but I can be a little late.
[16:24] <DktrKranz> just to inform you in case that happens
[16:26] <dholbach> DktrKranz: what do you think about trying to find a co-presenter who could cover the basics while you're finding your way into the session
[16:40] <DktrKranz> dholbach: I could, maybe RainCT could have a shot
[16:41] <dholbach> DktrKranz: I think that'd be the easiest solution if you don't want to totally reschedule
[17:17] <Laney> do the buildds install recommends?
[17:17] <geser> no
[17:17] <Laney> blast
[17:19] <geser> as a package installs successful even when one recommends isn't available (or not installable) you would get non-deterministic buildds (depending on the availibility of recommends)
[17:38] <zooko> Folks: the Tahoe-LAFS v1.6 release is slipping and we will not have a new version of Tahoe-LAFS ready to upload into Lucid by Wednesday (the 20th) as we had planned.
[17:38] <zooko> If we instead have one ready to upload by Monday the 25th do we still have a good chance of getting the new version included in Lucid?
[17:39] <zooko> For what it is worth the slippage has nothing to do with QA issues and is instead all about improving safety, security, and forward-compatibility.
[17:39] <ScottK> zooko: Yes.
[17:39] <ScottK> We'd rather have it right than have it right now.
[17:40] <zooko> Okay, we'll try to have it ready to upload next Monday.  Thanks!
[17:41] <zooko> That sentence that I said may not have made sense -- we are improving safety and security, not by fixing bugs or issues that negatively impact those, but by adding new features.  So it isn't the case that there are any undiagnosed bugs that are causing the delay.
[17:41] <zooko> Just FYI.
[17:46] <c_korn> does someone know a package of an application which is written in pascal ? I have no idea how to package/compile something like that
[17:57] <ScottK> c_korn: reverse-build-depends fp-compiler
[17:58] <c_korn> ScottK: thanks
[18:35] <freinhard> apachelogger, Quintasan: about that ctemplates package, i quess i'll move the emacs file back to docs/contrib/ cause i don't know (and don't want to find out ;) ) how to set it up correctly.
[18:35] <Quintasan> freinhard: also poke upsteam to strip the binary files if possible :)
[18:36] <rhpot1991> ok have some packaging questions, when packaging source that you are not upstream for, is there a preference between using get-orig-source vs having the source in your bzr branch?
[18:36] <freinhard> Quintasan: the .la file has already been removed on svn, not sure about that testing file
[18:36] <rhpot1991> I normally start with the source in a bzr branch and work from there, but am causing myself some confusion getting this ready for revu
[18:37] <freinhard> Quintasan: aren't .out files designed to be compared to the actual output the compiled code produces?
[18:40] <apachelogger> hm
[18:41] <apachelogger> freinhard: I think the .out file can be ignored, since a successfull unit test should generate the thing, hence it is reproducible
[18:42] <apachelogger> + it seems like it is simple text written as binary, so technically it is easily editable in any hexeditor :D
[18:46] <rhpot1991> any bright ideas on this: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d5813c217
[19:04] <ScottK> jdong: I'd like to get your opinion on Bug #509287 for an SRU.
[19:23] <freinhard> apachelogger, Quintasan: moved the emacs file back to the docs directory and uploaded the package again.
[19:24] <Quintasan> freinhard: okay, you'll need to wait for apachelogger since I need to get back to books :P
[19:25] <Quintasan> damned biology :/
[20:05] <micahg> \sh: ping
[20:05] <rhpot1991> does anyone have a good uscan/watch file example to point me at?
[20:06] <micahg> rhpot1991: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Creating%20and%20Using%20a%20debian/watch%20File
[20:07] <randomaction> rhpot1991: man uscan - has a number of examples
[20:08] <rhpot1991> thanks micahg and randomaction
[20:24] <rhpot1991> ok so I implement a watch file and the upstream source doesn't allow directory access so I get 403 forbidden, essentially defeating the purpose of the watch file, what the heck do I do now?
[20:37] <randomaction> you can use another format, which scans a page for links
[20:37] <micahg> \sh: unping
[20:50] <kamalmostafa> Is libGL broken again perchance?  All of the 'octave-*' packages seem to be FTBFS because of
[20:50] <kamalmostafa>    octave-3.2.3: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:51] <ScottK> kamalmostafa: I'd talk to tseliot in #ubuntu-x
[20:52] <kamalmostafa> ScottK: ok thanks
[21:06] <rhpot1991> randomaction: happen to know what format that is, I don't see anything in the man page about that
[21:09] <randomaction> "The first field is a homepage which should be downloaded and then searched for hrefs matching the pattern given in the second field." (from manpage, around line 190)
[21:11] <rhpot1991> thanks randomaction
[21:13] <rhpot1991> randomaction: all good now, thanks for the push in the right direction
[21:14] <randomaction> rhpot1991: yw
[21:28] <RainCT> DktrKranz: could do
[22:15] <rhpot1991> with debhelper 7 do I need to define get-orig-source to use uscan or is there some magic in place to make it happen automagically?
[22:43] <ScottK> rhpot1991: debhelper 7 doesn't help you on that.
[22:45] <rhpot1991> ScottK: thanks, wanted to check first
[23:13] <rhpot1991> if anyone has some time to do a revu: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/hdhomerun-config-gui
[23:22] <hakaishi> Hey folks! Anyone up to review qt-shutdown-p? It is a small program to shutdown the computer. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qt-shutdown-p


  Thanks for reviewing :)
[11:36] <dpm> nigelb, you can also add a comment on the wall on the ubuntu.translators FB page
[11:36] <nigelb> \o/
[11:36] <nigelb> Will do
[11:36] <dpm> and tweet/dent (ubuntul10n)
[11:42] <nigelb> Please RT! http://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/43637271618002945
[11:48] <duanedesign> morningn all
[11:49] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[11:49] <duanedesign> helloooo nigelb
[13:42] <nigelb> haha, tumblr down again! poor jcastro
[13:54] <duanedesign> nigelb: time for a quick pm?
[13:54] <nigelb> duanedesign: sure
[15:04] <nigelb> my irc client stopped working
[15:04] <nigelb> no conversation in any channel!
[15:04] <nigelb> !ping
[15:04] <ubot2> Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't.
[15:29] <jcastro> mhall119_: did you try out making a Place?
[15:29] <mhall119_> jcastro: I ran kamstrup's python-place example
[15:29] <mhall119_> I haven't tried writing my own
[15:29] <jcastro> do you have it handy like screenshotable?
[15:30] <mhall119> no, it's running on my netbook, which is at home atm
[15:31] <jcastro> k
[15:31] <mhall119> I can get a screenshot tonight if you want it
[15:32] <mhall119> but it'll be 800x480, so it may not look great
[15:33] <jcastro> no worries, I'll just roll without one
[15:34] <mhall119> ok
[15:35] <nigelb> Finally places is here \o/
[15:45] <dholbach> Last day of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:45] <nigelb> 15? o.O
[15:45] <nigelb> oh boy.  I need to finish dinner
[15:49] <Technoviking> morning all
[15:54] <mhall119> eat fast nigelb, you're up!
[15:55] <nigelb> I'm here
[16:31]  * dholbach hugs popey_
[16:35]  * duanedesign hugs dholbach
[16:35]  * dholbach hugs you all back :)
[16:43] <popey_> gah
[16:43] <popey_> stupid irc
[16:49] <dholbach> ok my friends
[16:49] <dholbach> I call it a day
[16:49] <dholbach> have a great WE everyone
[16:49] <dholbach> and see you next week!
[16:49] <dholbach> hugs to you all
[16:54] <nigelb> kim0: we're nearly done, you all set?
[16:56] <kim0> nigelb: yeah
[16:56] <kim0> on the clock
[16:56] <nigelb> awesome :)
[19:57] <cjohnston> jcastro: any chance you could help us locate kirkland
[19:57] <cjohnston> and jderose
[19:57] <jcastro> what's up?
[19:58] <nigelb> we've managed to text kirkland.  need more help with jderose
[19:58] <nigelb> jcastro: lightning talks at UDW
[19:58] <cjohnston> we are missing those two for UDW
[19:58] <jcastro> oh is this for a session?
[19:58] <jcastro> ok
[19:58] <jcastro> on it
[19:59] <jcastro> ok I don't know jderose
[19:59] <jcastro> I can text kirkland but you guys already did that?
[19:59] <nigelb> we did that already
[19:59] <nigelb> but if you can remind him its for the session that might help :)
[20:00] <nigelb> we can wait for 20 mins at least
[20:00] <jcastro> k
[20:00] <nigelb> TWITTER. let me tweet to the novacut guys
[20:06] <nigelb> arg, they use the web for twitter.  Not a phone.
[20:12] <jcastro> ok I texted kirland
[20:13] <nigelb> thanks jcastro
[20:13]  * nigelb hugs jcastro
[20:28] <nigelb> jcastro: did kirkland reply? I suppose he's driving.
[20:28] <jcastro> no response yet
[20:28] <nigelb> he's the only person we're missing.  everyone else turned up \o/
[21:26] <cjohnston> jcastro: still no update to uds.u.c :-(
[22:24] <jono_> jcastro, did you mail your locos yet?
[22:24] <jcastro> not yet, I've been busy with some places stuff today
[22:24] <jono_> jcastro, remember, the deadline is the end of today
[22:24] <jono_> as I mentioned on Wed
[22:24] <jcastro> nod
[22:25] <jcastro> hmm I thought the loco council was going to send something out?
[22:25] <jcastro> am I sending it to the lists or to the leaders?
[22:26] <jono_> jcastro, we discussed this on Wed, and I mailed the team
[22:27] <jono_> you are targeting N and S America
[22:27] <jono_> mailing each of the leaders from the teams
[22:27] <jono_> see the mail I sent
[22:28] <jcastro> k
[23:04] <jcastro> jono_: done
[23:04] <jcastro> <--- EOD
[23:30] <doctormo> jcastro: Thanks for the invite to the global jam.
[23:31] <doctormo> My IRC has been horrible today, although got a +1 from a local center to run and teach Ubuntu.
[23:41] <popey> jono_: nice response to Chuck
[23:47] <jono_> thanks popey