[00:02] <soee> layout ?
[00:04] <nolan_> yeah like changing from desktop to folder view
[00:04] <nolan_> it has desktop selected, but its greyed out
[00:04] <nolan_> its like the other options arent there
[00:10] <nolan_> Figured it out, desktop was locked!
[04:31] <Graf_Westerholt> Oi!
[06:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:48] <Graf_Westerholt> Gwenview does not showing photos right in portrait format.
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:18] <Graf_Westerholt> Gwenview ignores the Exif-orientation. :(
[12:19] <lordievader> Graf_Westerholt: Submit a bug report ;)
[12:19] <Graf_Westerholt> …
[12:19] <Graf_Westerholt> Why do „I“ have to submit all the bugs? ;)
[12:19] <lordievader> !bug | Graf_Westerholt
[12:20] <lordievader> Graf_Westerholt: You don't have to, but if you want to make the software you use better you should.
[12:20] <Graf_Westerholt> I know. But why do they put out such a buggy program?
[12:21] <lordievader> Graf_Westerholt: Do you use the Kubuntu backports?
[12:21] <Graf_Westerholt> lordievader, yes.
[12:21] <lordievader> Hmm....
[12:22] <Graf_Westerholt> lordievader, Gwenview is 5.0.0
[13:43] <HowManyDownLoads> hello guys - today WINDWOS_10 was launched - in German press they talked a lot about it, people in comentaries recomended download KUBUNTU - can we se how many downloads of ISO-files were done today?
[13:43] <HowManyDownLoads> Is there a peak as compared to the days before?
[13:43] <HowManyDownLoads> would be interesting to know
[15:05] <Doyle> Hi guys. Chrome launcher has vanished. What is this? How can I regenerate it? Jul 29 08:21:33 xxx org.kde.kded5[1117]: kf5.kcoreaddons.kdirwatch: "KDirWatch-3" emitting deleted "/usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop"
[15:25] <Doyle> nevermind. package got uninstalled somehow. I've reinstalled it. Love these Plasma crashes...
[15:33] <designbybeck> Random QUestion...Was playing around with Kubuntu 15.04, On Firefox I right-clicked on the header and told it to not show borders.... now I can't get back there
[15:36] <designbybeck> nevermind, closing and reopening it brought it back to default
[17:21] <david____> hello all
[17:53] <Graf_Westerholt> Oi!
[17:56] <Graf_Westerholt> lordievader, I tried the closed source graphic driver and now I cannot boot with the 3.19.0-25 kernel. I booted with 3.19.0-15. I do not know yet if the graphic driver is the problem, but I guess not. But the problem occurs after I used the closed source graphic driver.
[18:04] <david____> I am trying to trying to setup Quessel for the mint network I have got the irc.spotchat.org bit but I cannot get any of their channels
[18:06] <david____> do I use #mint_help or what
[18:07] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:22] <genii> !mint
[19:02] <david____> hunnybun I think that is someones maiden name
[19:43] <Graf_Westerholt> lordievader, when I use the closed source graphic driver, I cannot boot with kernel 3.19.0-25, but with -15. With the nouveau, I can boot with 3.19.0-25.
[20:46] <Graf_Seitan> Kubuntu froze. :(
[20:50] <est31> why again does every kubuntu box ship with mysqld?
[20:50] <est31> and why does it require 100 MB memory?
[21:15] <ejay> est31: are you sure it's preinstalled?
[21:22] <Dovahkiin> hello im an ultra ultra noob  need some help bout kubuntu
[21:24] <genii> Dovahkiin: What to do is ask in the channel a more specific question about something you might be needing help with, and then see if a helper answers :)
[21:25] <Dovahkiin> ah im so lost so i cant even mirc right lol  :/
[21:27] <Dovahkiin> been a while  well my qusetion is how to go back to windows because this machine was given to me by my sis boyfriend and i want to play games on it and etc
[21:27] <Dovahkiin> and i dont know linus or unix for shet  lol
[21:28] <Graf_Westerholt> !games
[21:29] <Graf_Westerholt> !windows | Dovahkiin
[21:30] <Dovahkiin> i find ubunto interesting but its like learning to speak and walk again at same time for me lol
[21:32] <Dovahkiin> all i wanna do is to fly falcon 4.0 combat sim
[21:33] <Dovahkiin> and i cant figure out how to do it ..
[21:35] <Graf_Westerholt> Dovahkiin :) I tried Falcon 4 years ago, too. :)
[21:35] <Graf_Westerholt> Dovahkiin, do you want to run Falcon 4 on Kubuntu?
[21:36] <Dovahkiin> oh you did cool  :)
[21:36] <Graf_Westerholt> Sim, but not much.
[21:36] <Dovahkiin> to be honest i dont know kubuntu
[21:36] <Graf_Westerholt> Dovahkiin, you are in a help-chat for Kubuntu. So you are running Kubuntu?
[21:37] <Dovahkiin> thats my key question is it difficult to go back to win from kubuntu
[21:37] <Dovahkiin> yes i am
[21:37] <Dovahkiin> this computer was given to me from my bro inlaw
[21:37] <Graf_Westerholt> Dovahkiin, you just need a Windows-licence, a Windows DVD and install it.
[21:38] <Dovahkiin> so nothing will stall it with some weird partiotions and hdd setups?
[21:39] <Graf_Westerholt> I guess nothing you can handle. But for more help of MS Windows:
[21:39] <Graf_Westerholt> !windows | Dovahkiin
[21:39] <Graf_Westerholt> ¿?¿ ubottu should show some hint.
[21:39] <Dovahkiin> cool
[21:41] <Dovahkiin> i think this is kubuntu 15 somthing
[21:41] <Dovahkiin> im riunning
[21:41] <Graf_Westerholt> running? :D
[21:41] <Graf_Westerholt> ruinning :D
[21:41] <Dovahkiin> yeh lol
[21:42] <Dovahkiin> havent touched a pc keyboard for ages used  play on consoles past 6 years lol
 Dovahkiin: For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents
[21:43] <Dovahkiin> i got this intel core i5 with msi military tech 2 mainboard and 4 hdd onj it and some kind of nvidia card on it
[21:44] <Dovahkiin> and g165 kboard plus a samsun syncm t22
[21:44] <Dovahkiin> g15 *
[21:45] <Dovahkiin>  and a amd sempron laptop acer allso with kubuntu
[21:45] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[21:45] <Dovahkiin> but probably sold the laptop to my ex for 70€
[21:46] <Dovahkiin> im n ot sure if im selling this computer i might if i wanna buy me xbox one  ;)
[21:48] <Dovahkiin> i figure it will be the perfect surf machine for her no virus no crash as windows etc  :)
[21:49] <Graf_Westerholt> Dovahkiin :)
[21:51] <Dovahkiin> brb had few beers  :)
[21:54] <Dovahkiin> well westerholt as we sayu in sweden tack så mycket  / thanks you so much :) time to crunch how to and what not to with kbunto and windows lol
[21:55] <Graf_Westerholt> Dovahkiin, sorry? :D
 brb had few beers  :)    <----- noticeable
[21:55] <Graf_Westerholt> bprompt :D
[21:56] <Dovahkiin> haha
[21:56] <Dovahkiin>  :) cya later maybe if a got more noob questions lol
[21:56] <Dovahkiin> thnx
[21:56] <Dovahkiin> bye
[21:56] <Dovahkiin> :)
[22:18] <sidd> anyone here


[15:49] <brunch875> /var/log/auth.log:
[15:49] <brunch875>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23338207/
[15:49] <brunch875> /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log:
[15:49] <brunch875> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23338209/
[15:49] <brunch875> I installed 16.10, but I can't get to unity8 :(
[15:51] <brunch875> I'll be glad to walkthrough / turn my laptop into a guinea pig to help bugfixing!


[00:54] <mup> Bug #1628331 opened: 21a4:Unhandled failure during AMP request <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628331>
[01:03] <mup> Bug #1628331 changed: 21a4:Unhandled failure during AMP request <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628331>
[01:09] <mup> Bug #1628331 opened: 21a4:Unhandled failure during AMP request <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628331>
[01:09] <mup> Bug #1628333 opened: 2.1a4:rackd.log reports Permission denied: /etc/maas/rackd.conf <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628333>
[01:15] <mup> Bug #1628333 changed: 2.1a4:rackd.log reports Permission denied: /etc/maas/rackd.conf <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628333>
[01:24] <mup> Bug #1628333 opened: 2.1a4:rackd.log reports Permission denied: /etc/maas/rackd.conf <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628333>
[01:24] <mup> Bug #1628338 opened: 2.1a4:syslog flooded with whoami requests <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628338>
[08:11] <herb64> Hi all, using MAAS deploying KVM domains. Enlistment: OK, Commissioning: OK, But deployment fails, if using the interface set to "auto-assign"
[08:13] <herb64> Deployment works with interface set to "DHCP" or "Static assign"
[08:15] <herb64> With "auto-assign" the node hangs, because it does not get an IP. tcpdump shows, that MAAS sends TWO offers: first the one with first address from "auto-assign" range, the second with the IP from dynamic range used during enlistment/commissioning
[08:16] <herb64> the node then requests the second one and gets back a DHCPNAK... now hanging
[08:16] <herb64> any ideas or known bugs?
[08:16] <herb64> using MAAS 2.0.0+bzr5189-0ubuntu1
[08:18] <herb64> for me ,it looks like MAAS has a bug, that causes the second offer to be sent out, although the first one should only be sent
[11:58] <hbogert> hi all
[11:59] <hbogert> I've just installed MAAS and it the provisioning of a VPS on proxmox went well, however, after commission, restarting the vps reboots and pxe is still serving and reinstalling the VPS
[11:59] <hbogert> is this intended behaviour?
[12:22] <hbogert> nvm my question I misunderstood what 'commission' meant. Though what does the 'acquire' status mean?
[12:36] <zeestrat> hbogert1: Someone probably has a more accurate description, however I believe acquiring a node simply reserves it for that specific user.
[13:03] <hbogert1> zeestrat: thanks
[13:06] <hbogert1> What does reserving a network range actually mean? Does it mean it is allowed for MAAS to actually use those IPs for static IP configuration. Or does it mean it should NOT use IPs in that range? Either way, currently the webui does not prohibit me from using IPs either in a reserved range, or not in a reserved range.
[13:18] <zeestrat> hbogert1: I think it just reserves a range so MAAS won't allocate those IP's when commisioning and deploying nodes with an interface set to auto assign.
[13:32] <mup> Bug #1628514 opened: the docs link in the footer of maas.io links to different docs than the docs link in header <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628514>
[13:50] <hbogert1> zeestrat: thanks again, that's probably it, I'll check
[14:12] <rock__> roaksoax: Hi. From MAAS UI, If we select a node and click on "Acquire" then what will happen to the node?
[14:16] <roaksoax> rock__: it will be "owned" by whomever acquires it
[14:17] <rock__> roaksoax: OK. Thank you.
[14:18] <rock__> roaksoax: How can we integrate MAAS with other technologies?
[14:19] <rock__> roaksoax: And MAAS will manage only ubuntu certified servers?
[14:20] <rock__> roaksoax: Will MAAS check for Ubuntu certification of the server?
[14:21] <roaksoax> rock__: maas cna manage non-certified ubuntu hardware provided they follow standards the same way as certified
[14:22] <roaksoax> rock__: define integrate other technologies
[14:23] <rock__> roaksoax: where exactly we need to define and how to integrate them. Do we have any procedure for that?
[14:37] <roaksoax> rock__: you woulf probably need custom engineering if you want to integrate with other technologies
[14:37] <roaksoax> rock__: or if other software wants to tak to maas, it could do it via the API
[14:38] <rock__> roaksoax: Hmmm. Thanks.
[14:38] <rock__> roaksoax: How can we explain others about MAAS networking in a better way? For people who don't know about MAAS.
[14:42] <mup> Bug #1628547 opened: [2.1 ipv6] omshell seems to hate ipv6 sometimes <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628547>
[14:51] <roaksoax> rock__: depends on what you want to do. If you want MAAS to say, do things wiht other software it doesn't currently do, then you need custom engineering. If you want other tehcnology use MAAS as a backend, then you could use the MAAS api, but really depends on what you are looking for
[14:52] <roaksoax> rock__: what would you like to explain ? The documentation follow a good overview of MAAS networking, which largely matches conventional terms (other than probbaly spaces)
[14:54] <rock__> roaksoax: Actually, I have a little experience with MAAS. I did openstack autopilot setup using MAAS  and MAAS + openstack base bundle setup. Got some good knowledge on MAAS with your help and other community guys help.
[14:55] <rock__> roaksoax: We want to have "stack meetup" Event every week friday at our office.
[14:56] <rock__> roaksoax: This friday i want to present MAAS [Metal as a service] to my collegues.
[14:56] <roaksoax> rock__: http://maas.io/docs/intro-concepts
[14:58] <rock__> roaksoax: OK. thank you.
[15:03] <rock__> roaksoax: From MAAS UI, I will select one node and then I will do first "mark broken" next I will do "Mark fixed" Then that node functionality will come back (or) go away.
[15:10] <roaksoax> rock__: mark broken sets the node that it was broken
[15:10] <roaksoax> mark fixed will move it to a state
[15:10] <roaksoax> that was previously or a state that needs action
[15:10] <roaksoax> for example, you may need to commission your node again
[15:18] <rock__> roaksoax: Oh. thank you. For example,
[15:19] <rock__> I have an Openstack-autopilot setup. If I take one node and released it. Then we can't fetch it back as it is right ?
[18:24] <maxiepax> Hi Everyone! I've been reading through the network documentation to see if we can use maas at work, however one thing still puzzles me. If we have different departments, who are used to being on different VLANs, then settings physical network ports to trunk, and then configuring the OS network interface to account for tagged vlan traffic works. However, nothing is preventing the user to swap VLAN and gain access to networks where th
[18:26] <maxiepax> i havn't been able to see if there is any orchestration available to allocate physical machines onto a VLAN by orchestrating the physical network? Did i miss something? or is the default simply to have racks in seperate L2's and route them, or by using trunk for Vlans (unsecure in one way)?
[18:26] <maxiepax> If it's the later, i do see one solution to f.ex use Dells -ON switches with Cumulus to run a pre deployment puppet command to allow the machine to be placed on the correct vlan.
[18:57] <x58> maxiepax: AFAIK there is no way to orchestrate the physical network.
[18:57] <spaok> I think the new hotness is moving to BGP
[18:58] <x58> BGP from the host to the rest of the network... absolutely.
[18:58] <spaok> things like Calico
[19:01] <x58> I love and use Calico :-D
[19:01] <spaok> I've been meaning to try it, the place I need it they don't support yet
[19:04] <mup> Bug #1628645 opened: MAAS incorrectly interprets DHCP packets when detecting external DHCP <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS 2.0:New for mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1628645>
[19:10] <spaok> does anyone know if you can load kernel modules during MAAS deployment? seems like it doesn't work
[19:11] <spaok> or do I need to install and load during the pre phase?


  I am so glad to be home!
[04:46] <mhall119> akgraner: just long enough to get comfortable before leaving for Budapest
[04:47] <akgraner> ha..I drove 332 miles today...Pete goes back to the airport on Thursday and then I go back to CLT on Saturday for my flight
[04:47] <akgraner> it's nuts...but fun ;-)
[04:51] <mhall119> heh, spend as much time with the kids as possible in between
[05:01] <nigelb> mhall119: aha, you're still awake :)
[09:11] <popey> congratulations doctormo
[09:12] <popey> doctormo: I will expect a photo of the baby with a bowler hat on.
[09:22] <jussi> popey: +++++
[10:49] <nigelb> popey: has something changed from the last week?
[10:50] <Pendulum> morning
[10:50] <nigelb> morning Pendulum. Are you still on the wrong side of the pond? :p
[10:50] <Pendulum> yes
[10:50] <nigelb> heh
[10:51] <Pendulum> don't even leave the house for another 8 hours
[10:51] <nigelb> \o/
[10:51] <nigelb> You leave today \o/
[10:51] <Pendulum> but not for 8 hours :(
[10:51] <Pendulum> and then I have over 20 hours of travel :(
[10:52] <nigelb> bah
[10:53] <Pendulum> well, probably about 20
[10:53] <Pendulum> it'll depend on if my flights are on time, etc.
[10:55] <Pendulum> 17 hours of flights/airport time and then 3-4 (maybe a little more) of ground transportation
[10:55] <Pendulum> and that's if things go smoothly
[11:15] <Pendulum> jcastro: I'm somewhat in your neck of the woods today (in a 4 hour layover in DTW sort of way)
[12:00] <popey> nigelb: http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/Guess-What-206563154
[12:28] <duanedesign> hello popey
[12:28] <duanedesign> nello nigelb Pendulum
[12:28] <Pendulum> hi duanedesign
[12:28] <duanedesign> Pendulum: you are in detroit?
[12:29] <Pendulum> duanedesign: I have a layover in Detroit tonight
[12:29] <duanedesign> ahh
[12:29] <duanedesign> i had to fly through detroit  last october when i went to orlando
[12:29] <Pendulum> I've flown through it before, but not international
[12:30] <duanedesign> go figure. Tulsa --> Detroit --> Orlando
[12:30] <Pendulum> heh
[12:30] <Pendulum> I'm doing CT -> Detroit -> London
[12:30] <Pendulum> although I think the terminal I used is now the Delta international terminal
[12:30] <Pendulum> (I hope so it was a nice terminal!)
[12:31] <duanedesign> the terminal i saw in Detroit was very nice
[12:31] <duanedesign> Pendulum: you are going to UDS?
[12:33] <Pendulum> duanedesign: nope
[12:33] <Pendulum> just on holiday
[12:35] <Pendulum> I'm probably having multiple back surgeries this summer so when didn't get UDS sponsorship figured I should plan a trip for fun instead since I don't really know when I'll be well enough to really travel next
[12:35] <duanedesign> Pendulum: well i hope you have fun on vacation
[12:36] <Pendulum> thanks :)
[12:36] <duanedesign> Pendulum: i guess they are giving people who have never been to UDS a chance to go this time around.
[12:37] <duanedesign> Pendulum: sorry to hear about potential surgeries :(
[12:37] <duanedesign> Pendulum: London is your final destination?
[12:38] <Pendulum> the UK is
[12:38] <Pendulum> visiting friends :)
[12:39] <duanedesign> Pendulum: awesome! I have always wanted to go to U.K.
[12:39] <Pendulum> (not geeks, tbh)
[12:39] <duanedesign> europe in general
[12:39] <Pendulum> I love it :)
[12:39] <Pendulum> I've had friends in the UK for the past 10 years and in 2005 did a summer traveling UK/Europe staying with people mostly
[12:40] <Pendulum> and then my best mate is in Scotland and so is my brother so I've been there a bunch of times more recently
[12:40] <Pendulum> this trip is mostly either new friends or friends I've not seen from 2005, though
[12:40] <duanedesign> ohhhh how fun!
[13:07] <nigelb> popey: ah, I'd seen that.
[13:07] <nigelb> hello duanedesign :)
[18:23] <AlanBell> perhaps for Oneiric we could not repeatedly screw up the countdown banners http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown
[18:24] <duanedesign> ugh. lots of users asking for support in #ubuntu-beginners. Always gets busy the first few days after a release
[18:25] <AlanBell> anyone know who is responsible for the cron job or whatever that should do the countdown banners?
[18:26] <nigelb> AlanBell: poke newz? alternatively, mhall119 :p
[18:26] <AlanBell> yeah, I poked newz
[18:26] <nigelb> mhall119 because he could probably know who's the person and he could be online.
[18:27] <AlanBell> not impressed, given the effort that went in to making the things, that they have been let down by operational issues
[18:31] <nigelb> folks, we complain about the wiki.
[18:31] <nigelb> http://i.imgur.com/o4U1j.png
[18:31] <nigelb> AlanBell, popey ^^
[18:31] <popey> hah
[19:36] <popey> cjohnston: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/773243
[19:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 773243 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu website advertises "Fully compatible with Microsoft Office"" [Undecided,Invalid]
[19:36] <popey> _really_
[19:36] <popey> you don't think that the copy there is _somewhat_ misleading?
[19:37] <nigelb> heh
[20:01] <cjohnston> How is it not?
[20:01] <cjohnston> You can reopen it if you want, but i dont have problems
[20:05] <AlanBell> I don't have problems either but I wouldn't say it is *fully* compatible
[20:06] <AlanBell> it is sufficiently compatible that only stuff I don't care about doesn't work
[20:07] <Daviey> AlanBell: It's "No fuss."  says so on the website :)
[20:08] <cjohnston> hey Daviey
[20:08] <Daviey> hey cjohnston
[20:09] <cjohnston> anything else we *need* to do for summit?
[20:09] <cjohnston> I have another thing or two I'd like to do, but still having issues :-/
[20:10] <AlanBell> right now the etherpad link appears on *everything*, because I couldn't think of a sensible condition to control it
[20:11] <AlanBell> do people agree with me that this is essentially harmless?
[20:11] <AlanBell> so stuff like plenaries, keynotes, the askmark session all have an etherpad associated with them
[20:13] <AlanBell> and Daviey is elmo still cool about getting a server up and running?
[20:13] <cjohnston> You could get rid of it for plenaries and keynotes.. or leave it there for the community to take notes for everyone
[20:19] <AlanBell> my thoughts entirely
[20:20] <cjohnston> which side?
[20:20] <cjohnston> or both
[20:20] <cjohnston> notice we mentions summit and Daviey runs away
[20:20] <cjohnston> lol
[20:24] <duanedesign> what is the proper name for the menu that contains the logout, suspend, restart options to the right of the Me Menu?
[20:26] <duanedesign> aha System Menu
[22:09] <AlanBell> what is the ARM Linus interface?
[22:35] <Daviey> heh
[22:36] <Daviey> AlanBell: I spoke with elmo this week, and showed him the integration.  He seemed happy enough, will follow up on Tuesday with progress.
[22:36] <AlanBell> thanks Daviey
[22:36] <Daviey> nigelb is currently working on adding the ability to add ?username=foo (where summit will push the LP id as a string)
[22:37] <Daviey> ^^ etherpad work
[22:37] <AlanBell> nice
[22:37] <pleia2> doctormo: do you approve? http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5673782380/
[22:37] <pleia2> (they were out of rich tea biscuits, and the top three are for me ;))
[22:37] <Daviey> pleia2: Ooooooo!
[22:38] <AlanBell> I would have gone for the classic aero rather than mint
[22:38] <pleia2> Daviey: doctormo assigned me tea duty at UDS (I will need help, I'm I yank)
[22:38] <Daviey> a packet of prawn cocktail crisps would have been a good addition.
[22:38] <AlanBell> pot of marmite perhaps
[22:39] <Daviey> pleia2: Being able to boil water will be a nice treat for you :)
[22:39] <pleia2> Daviey: one of the hungarian loco team members is bringing an electric kettle :)
[22:39] <Daviey> \o/
[22:41] <Daviey> pleia2: I might let you buy me a british warm ale.
[23:50] <mhall119> nigelb: I was at a release party then disney, what's up?
[23:52] <mhall119> AlanBell: newz was aware of the countdown banner problems, I remember him being pulled away from our projects to fix them


[22:28] <jbicha> there is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic/+uniquepackages but it's derived from Bullseye instead of Bookworm (or Unstable) so it takes more time to sort through


[01:57] <maxzor_> minimal, waldi, so in my awesome mind I decided that I was ready to drop ipv4 from my main wan interface.
[01:57] <maxzor_> when trying to ssh back in, there was some trouble :D
[01:59] <maxzor_> but I activated the rescue mode of OVH which seems to mount the broken vm on a sane one... and the rescue vm had the correct config from the openstack server
[02:00] <maxzor_> http://ix.io/4jEI ... so I just copied over the interface config file
[02:00] <maxzor_> and tadaa
[02:00] <maxzor_> -.- :D thank you for your help again


[09:56] <julmx> HI, i am trying to install lubuntu on a 192MO memory laptop using the mini.iso , after booting on the usb key, it looks like the alternate iso, not minimal install. Is it OK ?
[09:59] <szczur> yes, minimal.iso uses the same installer. the difference is that mini.iso downloads everyhting from internet. alternate uses the local cd rom
[10:02] <julmx> ok, thanks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall   isn t up to date then. I got the splash screen for a long time now, i just have to wait... idea about how long ?
[10:03] <julmx> fail, i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall is not up tu date
[10:05] <szczur> i don't know, i used only CD for installation from mini.iso
[10:07] <julmx> there s no network activity... so i am wondering
[10:08] <julmx> I can acces a console when i got the slpash screen ?
[10:08] <julmx> tty1 or something
[10:47] <max_> askum
[10:47] <max_> hi
[13:47] <priam> hello
[13:47] <mark76> Hey
[13:50] <priam> i have a dual screen and a lubuntu
[13:50] <priam> i would like to have an extended desktop
[13:50] <priam> but i have the same image on both screen
[13:51] <mark76> Not my area of expertise
[13:51] <priam> hmm
[13:51] <priam> and do you know someone that could help?
[13:52] <mark76> I suppose somebody here might
[13:59] <phillw> priam: one moment...
[13:59] <phillw> priam: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=84
[14:00] <priam> ok thanks !
[14:41] <alecvmac> hi, italian channel? :D
[15:04] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[15:05] <kosaidpo> my lubuntu became so slow and everytime  i plug a usb stick i see a .Trash folder i guess i have a virus whos makin my pc slow
[15:05] <kosaidpo> any idea how to fix this
[16:25] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[16:26] <kosaidpo> i wanna make my lubuntu partiton in the first how can i do that ??
[16:26] <kosaidpo> is there a tool for this ?
[16:26] <kosaidpo> thnaks ; ]
[16:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, you mean in the primary partition?
[16:33] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: you kno i've read things about partitions nad primary n logic but still feel get nethin new
[16:33] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: ill screen shot my gparted  ok
[16:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> kay
[16:36] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: my lubuntu became so slow idk why
[16:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, Updated lubuntu with no manually added startup applications is slow?
[16:39] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: i have no startups apps tho
[16:39] <Guest24672> Hi there, I have the following message on a recently installed lubuntu: One or more XML syntax errors were found while parsing the Openbox configuration files. See stdout for more information. The last error seen was in file "/home/myname/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml" line 1, with message: Start tag expected, '<' not found
[16:40] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: what does it do lxrandr ??
[16:41] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: i gues you shud add that > in that file
[16:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb on phone
[16:43] <Guest24672> kosaidpo: the file is empty! Shall I just add <
[16:43] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: okies
[16:44] <kosaidpo> ohh Guest24672
[16:44] <kosaidpo> want me to pass you mine ??
[16:44] <Guest24672> I would appreciate that
[16:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> Read http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/fluxopen.html if you have time Guest24672,
[16:45] <benliaq> hi, some lubuntu guru here?
[16:47] <benliaq> google desktop guru?
[16:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask | benliaq
[16:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, back
[16:48]  * IAmNotThatGuy is waiting for the screenshot
[16:48] <benliaq> google desktop in lubuntu, open folders in firefox, instead a pcmanfm, any suggestion?
[16:48] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: here you go http://pastie.org/2627573
[16:49] <Guest24672> kosaidpo: thanks
[16:49] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png
[16:49] <kosaidpo> Guest24672:  u
[16:49] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: uw
[16:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, and what do you want with your partitions?
[16:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> benliaq, Nothing on my mind. Googling didn't help?
[16:51] <benliaq> no, I try
[16:51] <benliaq> nobody knows
[16:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> And I am not sure about Other as we are emerging
[16:51] <benliaq> google desktop replacement, compatible with lubuntu?
[16:51] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: those ones where i have lubuntu i wanna make em first
[16:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> Unit193, any suggestions?
[16:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> kosaidpo, Why?
[16:53] <Unit193> IAmNotThatGuy: On what part? There was on oddity about things opening in Chromium when it should have been PCManFM
[16:53] <kosaidpo> so i can resize then add space to the other partition cus now if shrink my sda7 icant use the space that ill have
[16:54] <kosaidpo> IAmNotThatGuy: you got me now ?
[16:54] <kosaidpo> benliaq: whats u problem ??
[16:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> pardon me. Gtg
[16:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb soon
[16:55] <benliaq> google desktop, give me a good way to find files and folders
[16:55] <benliaq> but when I try to open a folder, google desktop launchs firefox (or chrome), instead LXDE file explorer (pcmanfm)
[16:55] <Guest24672> kosaidpo: I have replaced the file and I no longer have the error message. Thanks again
[16:56] <Unit193> benliaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
[16:56] <kosaidpo> benliaq: i guess you can do that with pcmanfm and there is an app for that but i forgot its name  but ucan all time use pcmanfm just do the focus on pcmanfm then if the file u lookin start with D then type d n here you go i hop it helps
[16:57] <benliaq> ok, i'll try
[16:57] <benliaq> thanks
[16:57] <kosaidpo> Unit193: http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna make my sda7 come in the top of list how can i do that ??
[16:57] <kosaidpo> Guest24672: uw
[16:58] <Unit193> kosaidpo: You would have to boot off a live CD and do some major changes
[16:58] <Unit193> Best not to do it unless you really need to and you know what you are doing
[16:59] <kosaidpo> Unit193: yeh but im afraid to blow things up so i wanna be sure
[16:59] <kosaidpo> Unit193: correct me i have 2 tables partitions right ??
[16:59] <kosaidpo> whats best have only one ??
[17:01] <Unit193> kosaidpo: I don't understand what you are saying
[17:01] <Unit193> You only need one swap partition
[17:02] <kosaidpo> Unit193: cus i have kubuntu in the other i guess i shud modify the fstab right
[17:03] <kosaidpo> kbunutu sux its so slow i jst installed cus i did some mistakes and i cudnt boot so i had to install sumthin so ican boot
[17:04] <Unit193> It's made for newer computers. Why do you want to change things around? Just remove the Kubuntu partitions and update grub
[17:06] <kosaidpo> Unit193: but iwont be able to use that space
[17:06] <kosaidpo> Unit193: i mean icant add it to my lubuntu table partition
[17:07] <Unit193> Why not? (We are the only ones talking, no need to direct it to me)
[17:08] <Unit193> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/generalities/gparted.htm and http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/move/move.htm
[17:08] <kosaidpo> okies i wont i jst want to make ur window pop up : D
[17:08] <kosaidpo> hang ill show you
[17:08] <Unit193> It doesn't.
[17:08] <Unit193> Take a look at those links
[17:09] <daniel__1> damn irssi!
[17:10] <kosaidpo> i tho you use pidigin : ]
[17:11] <kosaidpo> so i shud copy/ paste the partition ??
[17:12] <Unit193> You didn't read the guide. When you are messing with partitions, you need to make sure you know what you are doing (Or that you don't care about what you might delete(
[17:12] <kosaidpo> Unit193: ok
[17:13] <kosaidpo> ill : ]
[17:23] <kosaidpo> Unit193: idk how to move that partition to my sda1
[18:50] <new2lubuntu> so any idea why my wifi has to be turned on and off from time to time to restore connection after installing Lubuntu Restricted Extras package from the spm. ps im  a total noob here so please put up with any stupid questions.
[18:51] <bioterror> good question as restricted should not have anything driver related
[18:52] <bioterror> it just installs fonts and stuff
[18:52] <bioterror> someone correct me if I'm wrong
[18:54] <new2lubuntu> restricted also dls java and enables flash i thnk :/
[18:54] <new2lubuntu> yea it does
[18:55] <new2lubuntu> do you think its my isp? maybe its only when i run transmission
[18:56] <Unit193> Depends: lubuntu-restricted-addons Recommends:ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar libavcodec-extra-52 libmp4v2-0
[19:00] <kosaidpo> hello Unit193 Grr@ you i deleted that partition and updated grub but when i rebooted i got a gub rescue
[19:01] <Unit193> [13:12:16] < Unit193> When you are messing with partitions, you need to make sure you know what  you are doing (Or that you don't care about what you might delete)
[19:01] <Unit193> What do you mean by "grub rescue"?
[19:02] <bioterror> rescue ;)
[19:02] <bioterror> it's that grub "shell"
[19:02] <Unit193> Ah
[19:03] <kosaidpo> Unit193: yesh true i liked that haha as a proof but when i asked you how to get ride from my kubuntu pratition u told me to dleted it n update grub n idid but i got grub rescue and still dont kon how to move that partition
[19:03] <phillw> kosaidpo: If you've really made grub unhappy (you're not the 1st), then try http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 and get grub to re-install itself and have a look and see what is left?
[19:04] <phillw> kosaidpo: read the instructions carefully, you need to alter some of the commands for your own system!
[19:04] <kosaidpo> phillw: thanks luckily i installed lubuntu on that patiton so ican boot now
[19:05] <phillw> kosaidpo: do you have a gparted boot CD?
[19:05] <kosaidpo> phillw: no i have it only installed
[19:06] <phillw> kosaidpo: having a gparted boot CD can save so much grief. If you start messing with partitions on a drive that is part mounted, you are really asking for trouble.
[19:07] <kosaidpo> phillw: me now iwanna move a partition hang on ill show u
[19:08] <kosaidpo> phillw: here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna make the dev/sda3 included in sda2
[19:08] <phillw> kosaidpo: head over to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php a few minutes work that can save much head-aches!
[19:09] <kosaidpo> phillw: ican make it on usb stick ight ?
[19:09] <phillw> kosaidpo: read the link :)
[19:09] <kosaidpo> yeh i saw
[19:09] <phillw> Your /sda2 is a logical partition and your sda3 is an extended partition. two very different animals.
[19:11] <kosaidpo> phillw: i read about these type tho but still cant see the diffrence
[19:11] <kosaidpo> phillw: so theres no way to make it ??
[19:13] <phillw> kosaidpo: I cannot go through it all, but I would strongly suggest you have a read of http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html it is the best tutorial I've come accross & explains all the differences and how they interact, along with dual booting / moving etc....
[19:15] <phillw> kosaidpo: it has a great area set to describe the differences between the two types :)
[19:17] <kosaidpo> well i read that we can oly have 4 primary patition but extended partitions can include from 1 to 32 primary partition thats all abt but idk how the heck ican get what i want
[19:19] <phillw> kosaidpo: then read the ENTIRE artcle & understand it. Else you will have the same problems again and again. Manual partitioning is for the faint of heart.   I would like to upgrade to 11.* lubuntu. is there a howto for upgrading, without full-blown reinstall from cd
[20:32] <kosaidpo> zxy_64_k: traditional way back up ur data then upgrade
[20:33] <amjjawad> zxy_64_k, as far as I know,  you can't upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 unless you ugrade to 10.10
[20:33] <amjjawad> I'm one of those who prefer Clean Install
[20:34] <amjjawad> after all, backing up is the most important step only if you have something you care about and don't want to lose :)
[20:34] <zxy_64_k> i did apt-get dist-upgrade and it does nothing
[20:35] <zxy_64_k> someone said i shoud edit sources.list file, but i don't know if that is enough and i also don't know what to edit in that file
[20:35] <amjjawad> when you do "sudo apt-get update
[20:35] <amjjawad> does it work without problems?
[20:35] <Unit193> Just about like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_10.10
[20:38] <zxy_64_k> apt-get update works ok
[20:40] <zxy_64_k> do-release-upgrade -d seems to be doing the job. thx for the link Unit193
[20:41] <Unit193> Remember that it's best to have lubuntu-desktop installed and make sure to go to 10.10 first
[20:41] <Unit193> amjjawad: I have to go, take it from here?
[20:41] <amjjawad> Ok, no worries :)
[20:41] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: salam
[20:41] <amjjawad> take care Unit193  :)
[20:42] <amjjawad> hello kosaidpo :)
[20:42] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: you're the guy from morocan team ?? ight ??
[20:42] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, no, I'm not
[20:43] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: so i supose your real name is jawad ??
[20:43] <zxy_64_k> Unit193, it goes to maverick
[20:43] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, no, it's not :)
[20:44] <kosaidpo> haha okies cool
[20:44] <amjjawad> zxy_64_k, ok that's good. Now you can go ahead and upgrade again to 11.04
[20:44] <zxy_64_k> cool
[20:44] <amjjawad> I mean type the same command to upgrade
[20:44] <zxy_64_k> thx for help
[20:44] <amjjawad> you welcome :)
[20:54] <kosaidpo> guys if saved my / can i paste it again when i installl the new one ?? wont face any problem ?
[20:56] <amjjawad> your /home you mean?
[20:57] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: i mean both my / and my /home ??
[20:57] <amjjawad> you don't have to backup your /
[20:58] <amjjawad> why you want that?
[20:58] <amjjawad> are you trying to upgrade or re-install?
[20:58] <kosaidpo> to keep my programs already installed ;] well can i or not ?
[20:58] <svkoskin> why would you install the new one then?
[20:59] <kosaidpo> cus my partition are so messed up and i cant use em to space up the others
[20:59] <KM0201> so you want to reinstall lubuntu, but you want to keep your current programs?  seriously, do you know what 'reinstall" means?
[21:00] <KM0201> you can back up your home directory and keep their configurations, but.. you'll have to reinstall your apps
[21:00] <amjjawad> KM0201, please be cool ;)
[21:00] <kosaidpo> KM0201: uhm no
[21:00] <KM0201> amjjawad: i am cool.. not really sure what you mean
[21:00] <amjjawad> I mean take it easy
[21:01] <KM0201> i am taking it easy... i think you read to much into what i say, so.. "you keep it cool"
[21:01] <amjjawad> perhaps I can see the deepest point of your words ;)
[21:01] <KM0201> kosaidpo: so what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:01] <kosaidpo> so guys its not possible ?
[21:01] <amjjawad> anyway back to topic
[21:02] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, if you want to resize your partitions, you can do that without the need to re-install :)
[21:02] <kosaidpo> yeh guys i wanna past my old / after done installin the new  / is it possible
[21:02] <KM0201> kosaidpo: it might be possible, but i wouldn't not expect it to work
[21:02] <phillw> kosaidpo: how much data in /home?
[21:03] <kosaidpo> phillw: not much  less then 6 G
[21:03] <KM0201> ..
[21:03] <phillw> how much do have on your primary partitons?
[21:03] <phillw> as in total space?
[21:04] <kosaidpo> here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png i wanna delete the sda1 and sda3 and use that space in the sda3
[21:05] <KM0201> kosaidpo: that will take a LONG time w/o wiping the partitions and redoing everything (at least in my experience)... i woud back up /home  , embrace the horror, and reinstall (if that 6gigs is reallyt hat important to you anyway>
[21:05] <kosaidpo> phillw: im not sure but you can see it here http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png as my pc bein laggy
[21:05] <amjjawad> why u have two swap?
[21:05] <kosaidpo> brb guys
[21:06] <phillw> amjjawad: his map is a mess....
[21:06] <amjjawad> phillw, indeed
[21:06] <amjjawad> let me have a look at it more deeply
[21:06] <KM0201> i would back up my home configuration, and nuke that whole drie.
[21:06] <KM0201> *drive
[21:07] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, how many Systems do you have? what partitions do you want to keep and what partitions do you want to get rid of?
[21:08] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: i installed that jsut so ican boot cus i had kubuntu on it and some guys told me if you wnna get ride of kubuntu just delete it then update-gub but when i did i got a grub rescue prompt in my face so i had to install wahtsever to boot
[21:09] <kosaidpo> amjjawad: i wanna get off sda1 and sda3 and i wanna use their space in sda2
[21:09] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, as long as Kubuntu's Boot Loader is installed in /sda (MBR) then you can't just do that
[21:09] <amjjawad> where is your primary OS?
[21:09] <amjjawad> which partition?
[21:09] <phillw> KM0201: me also, there is no room on there for me to take a back up. You could risk resizing sda2 down, but without a b/up I would hate to do it :(
[21:09] <KM0201> phillw: yup.
[21:10] <kosaidpo> brb guys
[21:11] <phillw> KM0201: although I see little choice. Shrink sda2, remove sda1 & sda3, re-install sda1 as /home and rsync it from sda7 ...
[21:11] <phillw> not something I'd like to try without a backup!
[21:12] <phillw> else set sda1 as / and use sda3 as /home.... which ever way you do it... /home has no backup :(
[21:15] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, if I were you, I would backup my important date on an exteranl HDD or USB Drive and ... (1) from Device Menu > New Partition Table ... (2) Start to create your partition useing GParted / and /home and swap .... (3) make sure your swap is equal or higher your RAM .... (4) make sure to give enough space for /  so that you don't have to re-size it later on
[21:19] <phillw> amjjawad: if he had enough room to backup /home, this convo would not be happening :D
[21:20] <amjjawad> phillw, I said he needs to use external HDD so he doesn't have to use his internal HDD :)
[21:20] <phillw> amjjawad: does he have one that works?
[21:20] <amjjawad> I don't know he didn't say that yet
[21:20] <amjjawad> if not then there is plan B ;)
[21:21] <phillw> amjjawad: http://i52.tinypic.com/27yzbzt.png shows no sdb :)
[21:22] <amjjawad> phillw, perhaps he has one but it's not plugged in ;)
[21:22] <amjjawad> phillw, as you may know, if the device is NOT plugged in, it won't be shown in GParted
[21:22] <phillw> bottom line, you cannot take a backup of /home on that system within the existing system, as there is not enough room on the 2 primary partitions to hold it. Therefor, you would be resizing the extended partiton that holds it with no back up.
[21:23] <phillw> amjjawad: from memory, kos does not have an external HDD
[21:24] <amjjawad> phillw, again, there is always plan B. Anyway, he said brb and he didn't yet
[21:26] <amjjawad> I just removed 3 partitions today from my system and resize it without backup and it worked but YES, I do know it's not safe. Better safe than sorry. I'm just saying if he doesn't have another drive to use it as a backup, then resizeing the extended partition is the only way OR ...
[21:28] <amjjawad> Plan C: (1) delete sda6 ... (2) delete sda5 ... (3) resize the extended partition - reduce the size ... (4) give the remaining to new / and new swap then re-install
[21:28] <amjjawad> that's all
[21:35] <amjjawad> ok guys have to go
[21:36] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, I wrote all what you need to do IMHO. If you need further info, someone here may help or you can post on the Ubuntu Forum and PM me the link of your thread. I must go now
[21:36] <amjjawad> bye
[21:37] <amjjawad> kosaidpo, this is my link : http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822
[21:52] <kosaidpo> back guys
[21:54] <kosaidpo> thanx guys and amjawad ,phillw
[21:58] <phillw> kosaidpo: if you do not have an external hard-drive, then you need to ensure that there will be no power-cuts. Just take it very gently, resize the extended area down in size. then reboot. If that works okay (and it should), then you will have enough free space to do the further surgical operations on your hard drive. Just remember that just like going into surgery as a human at a hospital - we cannot guarantee 100% success.
[22:07] <w30> philsw is now Dr. Conrad Murray
[22:08] <w30> phillw, just joking, sorry
[22:09] <phillw> w30: no offence taken. As I don't even know who Dr. Conrad Murray there is little point :P
[22:10] <w30> phillw, Michael Jackson's doctor
[22:11] <phillw> so I have just found out... at least I now know who Michael Jackson is as well :D
[23:26] <silverlightning> is 11.10 on it's way?
[23:48] <phillw> silverlightning: shh, do not let everyone know... the clock is at http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/
[23:49] <phillw> if we can have it for the Olympics, our Uk advertising guys thought we should have one :)
[23:51] <silverlightning> cool
[23:51] <silverlightning> thanks
[23:51] <silverlightning> lol
[23:51] <silverlightning> the world stands still
[23:51] <silverlightning> I always suspected
[23:52] <silverlightning> time is only a hoax
[23:53] <phillw> well, the original olympic clock installed in London actually broke down... Much laughter, as for once it was not actually built in GB :D
[23:53] <silverlightning> I shall try the latest ubuntu for hardware that was a bit difficult a few months ago
[23:53] <silverlightning> major trouble with hp and dell laptops
[23:56] <silverlightning>  I am hoping 11.10 will have all the right fixes'


 Good morning from Japan 🇯🇵
[23:48] <valorie> o/
[23:48] <valorie> good afternoon from Black Diamond
[23:49] <valorie> said goodbye to Thomas this morning about 4am


[06:24] <dholbach> good morning
[13:57] <cwayne> hey, does an app usually sit in "Pending Review" for a month?  or was mine forgotten :(
[14:35] <dpm> cwayne, which app is it?
[14:38] <cwayne> dpm: unity-lens-vm
[14:50] <dholbach> dpm, first test-push: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-app-reviews/tahrir/changes/2?start_revid=2 :-)
[14:51] <dpm> dholbach, nice.
[14:52] <dholbach> I'll experiment a bit before turning it on
[14:53] <dpm> cwayne, if no one from the ARB is around to do the review, you might want to send a reminder to the ubuntu-app-devel(AT)lists(DOT)ubuntu(DOT)com list
[14:54] <dpm> or actually,
[14:54] <dpm> I think if you add the reminder as feedback on https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/807/feedback/ it should land on the arb list
[16:33] <dholbach> dpm, for now I'm happy with my tests: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-reviews
[16:33] <dholbach> I'll play around with it a bit more tomorrow
[16:33] <dholbach> also I moved lp:apps-brancher over to ~ubuntu-app-review-contributors
[16:34] <dholbach> I'll do a full test run tomorrow and then cron it
[16:34] <dpm> nice


[20:02] <powersj> hi - would it be possible to get the logging bot re-added to #cloud-init? We seemed to have lost the log bot in October
[20:03] <dax> powersj: you might want to try opping up and then doing /invite ubuntulog, that sometimes magically fixes it
[20:03] <dax> (it'll autojoin channels that are on its autojoin list if it falls out of them for some reason, so assuming you didn't get knocked off the list somehow...)
[20:04] <dax> s/autojoin/autojoin-on-invite/
[20:07] <powersj> dax, thanks - I see ubot5 so maybe that did it
[20:09] <dax> ubot5 is a different thing, the logging bot is specifically ubuntulog
[20:09] <dax> ubot5: hush
[20:10] <powersj> ah ok
[20:10] <dax> anyways. if inviting it doesn't get it back in the channel, someone should put in a ticket to canonical infra at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:10] <powersj> thanks again!


[11:45] <micahg> knome: what do you think of dropping abiword-plugin-mathview from the seeds?  it's 1MB
[11:45] <micahg> well, with the library it pulls in
[11:51] <knome> i don't know what that is... :)
[11:51] <knome> but sounds like something that is ok to drop imo
[11:52] <knome> huhu, we're that much oversized again :)
[12:03] <micahg> we're 9MB oversized
[12:04] <knome> yup
[12:06] <micahg> I'm going to drop french again from i386, that should get it fitting on a CD again
[12:06] <knome> mmh
[12:08] <micahg> well, if I can squeeze more stuff off the image, we can add it back :)
[12:08] <micahg> at least we'll have one image CD size
[12:08] <knome> heh, yeah
[12:08] <knome> we should get some stuff in soon and get them tested
[12:08] <knome> like the new menulibre, catfish and display dialog
[12:08] <micahg> mr_pouit has uploaded a few things recently
[12:09] <knome> mmhmm, i haven't followed things too close lately
[12:11] <micahg> hrm, removing the plugin won't help much as it's recommended by abiword
[12:11] <knome> heh
[12:11] <knome> i'd really want that stuff worked without recommends.
[12:12] <knome> so we could use --no-install-recommends by default
[12:12] <knome> that's obviously a design flaw
[12:12] <knome> "recommends" should never be needed for something to work
[12:12] <micahg> Recommends
[12:12] <micahg>     This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
[12:12] <micahg>     The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations.
[12:13] <knome> aha. that's a bit weird
[12:13] <micahg> if mathview doesn't fit the bill, we can request it be dropped to suggests
[12:14] <knome> still, with recommends installed by default, and probably more and more getting there from the other side as well (less relevant stuff constantly included), it's a serious flaw in the system
[12:14] <knome> because i believe it's so much easier to get a thing into "recommends" than as a strict dependency
[12:15] <micahg> well, no, if the recommends are being pulled in, they should be stuff that would normally be installed with the software in question, otherwise, the field is being used wrong
[12:15] <knome> even if in ubuntu, that ultimately means the same thing unless you manually turn off installing recommends
[12:15] <micahg> if you find spurious recommends, please let me know
[12:16] <knome> i will
[12:16] <knome> i've turned off installing recommends myself though
[12:16] <micahg> I need to review the package list again to make sure we're not pulling in anything weird
[12:16] <micahg> umm...that's not recommended :P
[12:17] <knome> "dont' worry, i'm a developer"
[12:17] <knome> i know it's not recommended
[12:17] <knome> and i'm not whining about bugs before checking if it works with recommends enabled
[12:20] <knome> seriously, if everybody just used to install recommends, they should just be in the dependencies then.
[12:20] <micahg> no
[12:20] <knome> i thought they were separated to allow choice
[12:20] <knome> ...ultimately
[12:20] <micahg> Depends
[12:20] <micahg>  The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package is required for the depending package to provide a significant amount of functionality.
[12:21] <knome> yeah, i understand the theoretical difference...
[12:21] <micahg> yes, recommends can be removed on demand, depends can't
[12:21] <micahg> but since disk space is so cheap, recommends by default makes sense
[12:21] <knome> for most systems yes
[12:22] <knome> you are probably talking about non-SSD disk space :P
[12:22] <knome> i'm not saying it doesn't make sense with SSD's either
[12:22] <micahg> even on a 16GB SSD, a normal Ubuntu system would work
[12:22] <knome> but it makes in my 4GB eeepc
[12:23] <knome> there used to be some gnome apps in recommends for some packages
[12:23] <knome> that was weird
[12:24] <knome> i can't remember for which packages, but something probably ages ago pulled in another application
[12:24] <micahg> yeah, well, I think we took care of those
[12:25] <knome> i hope so :)
[12:27] <knome> reading back on my blog, it must've been late 2008
[12:28] <knome> too bad i didn't write down what happened, only the solution to disable recommends by default :P
[13:25] <kurapika> Hello happy new year / Bonjour Bonne année
[13:27] <bluesabre> Happy new year!
[13:29] <kurapika> My best wish for all of you :) and long live for xfce


[00:50] <tempspace> Does anybody know if Ondrej Sury is ever around this room?
[00:54] <nacc> tempspace: off and on, but he's more likely to be found in debian channels, i think
[01:48] <nelson777_> hello, I recently bought a vps from interserver.net and I found it strange that iftop command shows as source host mirror.xpinator.com instead of the name I put in hostname. Anyone knows why ?
[01:56] <sypher> nelson777_: What ubuntu release, and how exactly did you set the hostname?
[01:57] <nelson777_> ubuntu server 14.04
[01:57] <nelson777_> I set the hostname to yggdrasil
[01:57] <sypher> nelson777_: How *exactly*?
[01:58] <nelson777_> http://pastebin.com/VMzAhpGc
[01:58] <sypher> nelson777_: You might find it easier to simply use hostnamectl.
[01:58] <sypher> nelson777_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/hostnamectl.1.html
[02:01] <nelson777_> I used it. But I already found what it was: the reverse dns was set to that name
[02:02] <nelson777_> thanks anyway
[02:24] <masuberu> hi
[02:24] <masuberu> I would like to nfs mount a folder on my ubuntu server to my mac
[02:24] <masuberu> at the moment it is giving me a permission denied
[02:25] <masuberu> I believe because the UID doesn't match
[02:25] <masuberu> now the question is, the UID on my mac is 501 which is lower than 1000
[02:25] <masuberu> would it be ok to create my user on my ubuntu server and manually change the UID to 501?
[02:27] <tarpman> masuberu: if you haven't already created the user, you can tell adduser which uid to use, see the man page for details
[02:28] <tarpman> masuberu: some things in ubuntu might ignore users with a uid less than 1000 due to considering them 'system users'. not sure if that's true of anything on server; anything I can think of offhand that would do that are all desktop-ish things
[02:28] <masuberu> yes, but i know that ubuntu gives an UID higher than 1000, I am not sure if I am breaking something assigning an UID lower?
[02:28] <masuberu> ok
[02:28] <tarpman> assuming the uid already exists, I don't think you'd be breaking anything
[02:28] <tarpman> er
[02:29] <tarpman> *doesn't already exist :
[02:29] <tarpman> :)
[02:29] <masuberu> yep
[02:29] <masuberu> ok I will give it a go
[02:29] <masuberu> thank you!
[02:29] <masuberu> for NFS access... does it have to match the username, UID and GUID?
[02:30] <tarpman> uid and gid for sure, for the type of nfs you're talking about I don't *think* username matters (but I could be wrong)
[02:30] <tarpman> and gid only if it matters for your access control needs, really
[02:32] <tarpman> I think by default a new user in ubuntu will get a 'personal' group (a group with the same name as the user) - I don't remember whether mac does that?
[02:32] <tarpman> you don't need to make your ubuntu user's personal group gid match the 'users' group gid on your mac, is the point I'm meaning to make
[07:10] <mowthegrass> Has anyone tried setting up password for grub
[07:11] <mowthegrass> i did set up one , but autoboot doesnt work it always wait for user intervention
[07:12] <mowthegrass> TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub does work however its gets highlighted and selected on selection it prompts for username and password
[09:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:12] <adun153> hi!
[09:32] <lordievader> Hey adun153
[09:35] <adun153> hey lordievader
[09:43] <adac> how to solve such a locale error? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/779ebf4e59c465083e8035535fe95dbb
[09:43] <adac> actually it is more of a warning
[09:51] <lordievader> adac: http://askubuntu.com/a/227513
[10:00] <adac> lordievader, thanks I'll try that out
[10:03] <lordievader> Let me know if it works ;)
[10:08] <pirx> i just installed 2 new ubuntu 14.04 servers, and i can't TAB-complete on arguments to the "service" command. Any ideas why? :)  (i can on almost all other of my ubuntu-servers)
[10:15] <adun153> pirx, does your user have a .bashrc in its home directory?
[10:42] <pirx> adac: yes
[10:43] <pirx> and it seems to source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion at the end there
[10:44] <pirx> and that file there is identical to one that i have in a server where this tab-completion works fine
[10:45] <pirx> also, tab-completion in general *does* work, but not for arguments to the "service" command
[10:45] <pirx> annoying:)
[10:48] <lordievader> pirx: Is the bash-completion package installed?
[10:49] <pirx> isnt it always? :)
[10:49] <pirx> yes its installed
[10:50] <pirx> all other completion works so...
[10:50] <pirx> all other that i know of anyway
[10:52] <lordievader> What happens when you source it manually?
[11:30] <pirx> lordievader: i source it, no errors, but tab-completio still fails
[11:36] <lordievader> Hmm, not really sure where the problem might lie.
[13:28] <jamespage> coreycb, erm
[13:28] <jamespage>   * Note: Skipping 0ubuntu3/4 because they were yakkety-only releases.
[13:28] <jamespage> ?
[13:30] <coreycb> jamespage, doesn't seem ideal
[13:31] <jamespage> coreycb, 2:13.0.0-0ubuntu2.1 would have been better
[13:31] <coreycb> jamespage, yakkety has moved on to 2:14.0.0~b1-0ubuntu3 so I figured 2:13.0.0-0ubuntu5 would be ok
[13:32] <jamespage> coreycb, well it is ok from a versioning perspective but the .1 is more consistent with sru point releases...
[13:32] <jamespage> just looks odd like you say
[13:32] <coreycb> jamespage, ok. I never really understood when to do a .1 or not tbh.
[13:32] <teward> coreycb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging is the guide I use
[13:33] <teward> logic stands for both Security and SRU updateds
[13:33] <coreycb> teward, thanks, me looks
[13:34] <teward> version examples is the string i rely on pretty heavily
[13:34] <teward> jamespage: sorry for hijacking :0o
[13:34] <teward> :)  *
[13:35] <jamespage> teward, you saved me find it - ta
[13:35] <teward> jamespage: bookmarks are nice :)
[13:35] <teward> that, and I had it open anyways :0
[13:35] <teward> that, and I had it open anyways :)
[13:35]  * teward is working on debdiffs for an SRU
[13:35] <teward> 'cept that the same version of the package exists EVERYWHERE so it's even more painful :)
[13:35] <teward> rbasak knows which package/bug I"m referring to :p
[13:38] <coreycb> teward, that's very useful thanks
[13:38] <teward> coreycb: you're welcome
[13:39] <teward> you can thank the MOTUs and Security team for giving me that an age ago when I started out working in the packaging world :P
[13:39] <teward> coreycb: but to echo jamespage, the data in that guide is pretty good for identifying what should be done for a package version bump.  There are edge cases, I think, but in most cases the guide is far more useful
[13:40] <teward> that, and yakketyVersion > xenialversion > wilyversion > trustyversion > preciseversion  is a valid analysis
[13:40] <teward> SRU version string shouldn't ever be higher than any of the releases after the affected one, AIUI
[13:41] <teward> https://launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/ubuntu/pymssql/+packages is an example of how I did this for one mass SRU, but I should point out that that's gonna get poked and nuked shortly because I messed up *those* debdiffs :P
[13:42] <teward> 1.0.2+dfsg-2  --> 1.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (yakkety), 1.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> (xenial), etc.
[13:42] <teward> :P
[13:42] <teward> but in the case of what it looks to be here, a .1 would be sufficient
[13:42] <teward> per the guide
[13:42]  * teward goes back to poking the servers at work to migrate dovecot and inbox data from an ancient server to a new one
[13:44] <coreycb> teward, sorry, been reading.  bookmarked, thanks again :)
[13:51] <teward> jamespage: so, Yakkety is 2:14.0.0~b1-0ubuntu3 and their verisonstring/changelog had 2:13.0.0-0ubuntu5  ?
[13:51] <teward> just so I'm fully understanding :)
[13:51] <teward> coreycb: ^
[13:52] <coreycb> teward, yes the 13.0.0-0ubuntu5 is xenial
[13:52] <coreycb> teward,  13.0.0-0ubuntu2 was xenial, and  13.0.0-0ubuntu3 and  13.0.0-0ubuntu4 were yakkety.
[13:53] <coreycb> 13.0.0-0ubuntu2.1 would've made more sense for the xenial update
[13:53] <teward> indeed
[13:54] <teward> just wanted to clarify what the problem was when I randomly interjected :)
[13:54] <jamespage> coreycb, don't stress about it to much - 3 and 4 are superceeded versions and as you point out its still earlier than the version in yakkety
[13:54] <teward> ^
[13:54] <jamespage> coreycb, the SRU team accepted it after all!
[13:54] <coreycb> jamespage, I'm not :)
[13:54] <teward> speaking of SRU I need to get these debdiffs rolling
[13:54]  * teward is just a little lazy :/
[13:55] <coreycb> teward, get back to work!
[13:55] <coreycb> :)
[13:55] <teward> coreycb: coffee
[13:55]  * teward has none
[13:55]  * teward needs some
[14:31] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb: as I did not do my ci shift yesterday fixed up newton failures am today
[14:31] <jamespage> mainly rebase/drops of patches
[14:32] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[14:32] <ddellav> jamespage thanks. I'll mop up anything left
[14:33] <jamespage> a few stable failures (4) but that's it
[14:33] <jamespage> coreycb, ddellav: fwiw I think we should have branch builds going for anything that we have charmed; so once we get there, we need to include mistral and murano as well
[14:34] <jamespage> we can discuss...
[14:35] <coreycb> jamespage, makes sense
[16:28] <ddellav> coreycb before i head out to lunch, here's the keystone sru repo: lp:~ddellav/ubuntu/+source/keystone it builds successfully, plz review and push and i will subscribe the sru team to lp:1592865
[16:28] <coreycb> ddellav, ok
[16:34] <jamespage> smoser, have you actually seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1559072 on xenial?
[17:21] <coreycb> ddellav, keystone still fails with the dh-python failure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17440199/
[17:21] <ddellav> coreycb are you building locally? https://launchpad.net/~ddellav/+archive/ubuntu/xenial-mitaka/+build/10035503
[17:22] <coreycb> ddellav, you mentioned you had a fix for dh-python yesterday?
[17:22] <ddellav> coreycb my fix was to remove that line from requirements.txt but it builds successfully as-is in the ppa so i didn't make that change
[17:23] <ddellav> i assume its because the sbuild chroot does not pull in proposed updates or something like that
[17:24] <coreycb> ddellav, hmm not sure because the dh-python fix is in xenial-updates already: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-python
[17:25] <ddellav> coreycb im not sure then, for some reason the ppa is getting the fixed version of dh-python and sbuild locally is not.
[17:25] <nacc> ddellav: are you making sure to run an `apt-get update` locally? and possibly pass -U ?
[17:26] <ddellav> nacc the first thing sbuild does before it runs the build is update apt-get and upgrade
[17:26] <ddellav> but i explicitly ran an update and upgrade anyway just to make sure
[17:27] <nacc> ddellav: ah you're right, i was confusing with adt, sorry!
[17:27] <nacc> ddellav: do your sbuild logs indicate it's hitting updates at all?
[17:27] <ddellav> nacc all good, any suggestions welcome
[17:28] <ddellav> nacc yes, it hits it and updates but there are no upgrades to be done currently. I also watch the build as it's running and it shows the update
[17:28] <coreycb> ddellav, I wonder if by default sbuild doesn't have -updates enabled
[17:28] <ddellav> coreycb that would certainly explain it
[17:28] <coreycb> ddellav, from your ppa build -- Get:13 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 dh-python all 2.20151103ubuntu1.1 [74.1 kB]
[17:29] <nacc> ddellav: it would depend on your local sbuild env's configuration
[17:29] <coreycb> ddellav, from sbuild logs -- Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 dh-python all 2.20151103ubuntu1 [74.4 kB]
[17:29] <nacc> ddellav: you can always try passing an --extra-repository
[17:30] <ddellav> coreycb i see that as well: Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 dh-python all 2.20151103ubuntu1 [74.4 kB]
[17:30] <ddellav> let me look at the config
[17:31] <ddellav> yea, its not enabled in the chroot. This needs to be fixed on all our sbuild envs
[17:35] <coreycb> ddellav, we may just need to fiddle with SKIP_UPDATES:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[17:35] <ddellav> coreycb https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild these are the instructions i followed when setting up sbuild ages ago, in the .mk-sbuild.rc they have SKIP_UPDATES and SKIP_PROPOSED
[17:35] <ddellav> lol
[17:36] <coreycb> ddellav, heh
[17:36] <coreycb> ddellav, anyway can you rebase your keystone updates and I'll fix up my sbuild and land that
[17:36] <ddellav> coreycb thats for making new environments though, so does that mean i'll have to nuke them all and start over?
[17:36] <ddellav> ok
[17:36] <ddellav> coreycb will do
[17:36] <coreycb> ddellav, yeah but that's not a huge deal
[17:37] <ddellav> coreycb thats true, there's nothing stored there
[17:52] <ddellav> coreycb ok, keystone rebased and pushed
[17:54] <coreycb> ddellav, ok
[17:56] <coreycb> ddellav, nacc: btw, I just created a yakkety sbuild chroot with SKIP_UPDATES and SKIP_PROPOSED commented out and updates is now enabled.  same config as last time but I have a feeling maybe the updates pocket didn't exist last time.
[17:57] <ddellav> coreycb i went to re-create my sbuild chroots and when I did a reverse history search for the command i found i passed the --skip-updates flag as well, not sure why past-me was a dumbass
[17:58] <coreycb> ddellav, oh that'll do it
[18:07] <ddellav> jamespage it looks like you updated python-glance-store to 0.9.2, possibly to fix a ci issue. Are you going to upload that to wily?
[18:29] <hggdh> kirkland: just a question: why does gnome-software show byobu as non-free (I know it is GPL3)?
[18:30] <hggdh> kirkland: also, it seems the copyright notice in ./share/doc/byobu/copyright should be updated (goes up to 2014 only)


 :S
[05:53] <epikvision> philipballew, did ubuntuyouth have any events lately?
[05:53] <philipballew> none currently. but if you want to help me we can do some
[05:54] <epikvision> sure, sounds like fun.  This group needs a little kick.
[05:54]  * UnderControl kicks #ubuntu-youth
[05:54] <epikvision> lol
[05:54]  * epikvision kicks #ubuntu-youth a little further
[05:54] <UnderControl> Uhh, I think I made it mad?
[05:55] <philipballew> lets talk about what we can do st scale.
[05:55]  * epikvision wipes sweat off brow
[05:56] <epikvision> I haven't thought of it yet.  Right now, I'm setting up irssi and screen for tomorrow.
[05:56]  * UnderControl orders Epikvision to use WeeChat and tmux
[05:58] <epikvision> I would...
[05:58] <UnderControl> :P
[05:58] <epikvision> but the retro feeling of irssi feels sooo good.
[05:59] <UnderControl> WeeChat is currently my favourite IRC client.
[05:59] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: I will be attending and helping with a couple (which are on air)
[06:01] <epikvision> JoseeAntonioR: you mean the hangout sessions?
[06:01] <JoseeAntonioR> yes, I need to host those
[06:01] <philipballew> epikvision, If you want you can join a google hangout with me UnderControl and JoseeAntonioR and well watch you speak
[06:01] <epikvision> philipballew: are you talking about my speech?
[06:01] <philipballew> yes epikvision
[06:02] <UnderControl> Philipballew I can't join hangouts currently :(
[06:02] <JoseeAntonioR> UnderControl: yes, you can
[06:02] <JoseeAntonioR> use the g+ app for your phone
[06:02] <UnderControl> Joseeantonior G+ freezes on my iPad
[06:02] <UnderControl> :P
[06:02] <epikvision> within this week. Unfortunately, now's not the time.
[06:02] <JoseeAntonioR> blargh
[06:03] <epikvision> UnderControl: that's sad. :P
[06:03] <JoseeAntonioR> last time I wanted to do a hangout with someone from my iTouch I had 2% battery
[06:03] <JoseeAntonioR> philipballew: ^
[06:04] <UnderControl> Lol
[06:05] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: will you be attending the hangouts?
[06:06] <epikvision> yes, anything I have to set up, Jose?
[06:06] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: just make sure you can play youtube videos
[06:07] <epikvision> everyone: how do you guys remain on irc without ever leaving?
[06:07] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: I use ZNC
[06:07] <epikvision> znc? what's that?
[06:07] <JoseeAntonioR> and IRC bouncer
[06:07] <JoseeAntonioR> check znc.in
[06:10] <epikvision> ok, i'm getting it from software centre
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: won't work
[06:11] <epikvision> so, from tarball?
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: it needs to be up 24/7 for you to remain online 24/7
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> check trekweb.org, I can process it now if you request it
[06:11] <epikvision> get me started bro, thanks.
[06:17] <JoseeAntonioR> epikvision: getting the ticket ready?
[06:20] <epikvision> What subject and message?
[06:20] <epikvision> I'm filing for a new ticket.
[06:22] <JoseeAntonioR> read trekweb.org/znc/requesting to get more info
[06:23] <epikvision> do you know what subject is appropriate?
[06:23] <JoseeAntonioR> a random one's fine
[06:24] <epikvision> I'm not getting any znc into my local drive. Is that right?
[06:24] <JoseeAntonioR> yes
[06:24] <epikvision> Just trekweb doing its job for us
[06:24] <epikvision> sweet
[06:30] <epikvision> I submitted the ticket
[06:36] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[06:36] <epikvision> woah, so now what happens?
[06:37] <JoseeAntonioR> instructions on the email
[06:37] <JoseeAntonioR> check that
[06:57] <JoseeAntonioR> thinkndev: /msg nickserv release epikvision PASSWORD, /nick epikvision
[16:20] <PaoloRotolo>     /SET irc_conf_mode 1
[22:04] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, can we talk here?
[22:04] <philipballew> perfect
[22:06] <SergioMeneses> ok philipballew Im confusing, we had done a lot of documentation in the documents day
[22:06] <SergioMeneses> do you remember it?
[22:06] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, i remember, lets have a hangout this week to go over it
[22:07] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, maybe we can need some device from Daniel or Jono, what do you think?
[22:08] <philipballew> ask them tomorrow I would
[22:08] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, perfect... I saw daniel today morning but I forget it
[22:09] <SergioMeneses> Im very busy with the laptop-testing now
[22:09] <philipballew> I see him at like 1 am before I go to sleep


[06:47] <mancubus> hi pp;
[06:47] <mancubus> hi ppl
[14:20] <roaksoax> 77/win 13
[14:25] <mup> Bug #1521204 opened: MAAS does not log responses sent to nodes being provisioned <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521204>
[19:08] <mup> Bug #1521290 opened: IPMI timeout option  <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521290>
[22:39] <mup> Bug #1521376 opened: MAAS nodes should re-report the IP address they observe assigned to themselves at deployment time <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.8:Won't Fix> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521376>
[22:42] <mup> Bug #1521376 changed: MAAS nodes should re-report the IP address they observe assigned to themselves at deployment time <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.8:Won't Fix> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521376>
[22:45] <mup> Bug #1521376 opened: MAAS nodes should re-report the IP address they observe assigned to themselves at deployment time <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.8:Won't Fix> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521376>