[05:38] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Yeah, about that, can't give you immediate feedback since getting kernel upgrades takes a few hours here.
[05:38] <backz> hey, where is my /dev/lp0 ? I cant print things on my printer, there's no /dev/lp0! why ?
[05:39] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, I still have the same problem
[05:39] <silvaran> ThePub: The laptop mode is for laptops... I suspect the reason why it's loaded is because the vendor specifications are never sufficient to determine whether or not a laptop is actually in use.  So the wonderful Ubuntu developers have decided, "Well, if the manufacturers are being archaic about interoperability, we need to write our own laptop detection routines"... in a perfect world, the whole l
[05:39] <silvaran> aptop detection would be run during install and discarded on all non-laptop architectures... but in that same perfect world, candy corn would actually taste good... :)
[05:39] <radiohead> with the .bz2? I just downloaded it and got the makefile
[05:39] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > There is a makefile but terminal will not run it
[05:39] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : how are you running it?
[05:39] <runes> zodo..    http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverSearchResults.do
[05:39] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > just tring to do make
[05:39] <sam1001> it's not bad at all, 5 bux for a IDE-flash converter
[05:39] <tuxtheslacker> hey, NthDegree it won't let me open amarok with sudo.
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > and when I double click it it just opens a text editor
[05:40] <zodo> runes: That's where I am right now.
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> it just hangs when I load it with sudo.
[05:40] <ice_1963> backz, are you running kde?
[05:40] <radiohead> don't double click it
[05:40] <runes> ok what page are you on
[05:40] <Snake> Hmm.... edgy isnt delayed because dapper was is it?
[05:40] <Draconicus> I need to record from the audio output. What mixer can I use to set it for recording?
[05:40] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : are you running firefox as root?
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Im trying in terminal as well
[05:40] <NthDegree> try kdesu tuxtheslacker :)
[05:40] <backz> ice_1963: no! gnome, ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > no
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Snake: Nope.  Still october.
[05:40] <runes> zodo, just put in your chipset and search
[05:40] <ice_1963> ok
[05:40] <radiohead> make should work
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Ill close it anyway
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> kdesu?
[05:40] <Snake> thanks
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ^^
[05:40] <zodo> runes: Do you know how I would check to see which version of sk98lin is included with dapper?
[05:41] <radiohead> no, I was just wondering if it was root in case you don't have the permissions to run teh makefile
[05:41] <NthDegree> for kde it?s kdesu for gnome gksu :)
[05:41] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > sid@sid-laptop:~/Desktop/madwifi-0.9.0$ make
[05:41] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:95: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[05:41] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] >  I get that error exactly
[05:41] <tuxtheslacker> there we go :-P
[05:41] <ThePub> silvaran:  no need to justify it :)  it's an observation of oddness. (tends to lead me to not trust many of the defaults)
[05:41] <strav> hey there... here's something that appears to be a classic around xorg conf... (maybe some details are particular to ubuntu... hence I ask here), when I try different layout, I get the following error msg: Error activating XKB configuration
[05:41] <strav> Probably internal X server problem... I verified my xorg configuration for the keyboard, rules are set to xorg (as some people pointed out that rules definition could be a problem if not set to xorg)... if anyone have a clue, would be appreciated.
[05:41] <sam__> if there are any ubuntu devs in here MY GOD thank you for setting me free
[05:42] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : hold on
[05:42] <backz> but, parport                39560  3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp on lsmod! whereis my /dev/lp0 ? when I try to configure cups via gnome, it returns: "hp no_device_found"
[05:42] <runes> zodo, read the second line it says the installer will do that automatically
[05:42] <puff> What's the normal operating temperature for a pentium 2.4GHz?
[05:42] <silvaran> ThePub: Hey, I won't even let my closest friends anywhere near my laptop; no need to explain :)
[05:42] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[05:42] <runes> zodo, do not try to install the drivers in gui mode
[05:42] <tuxtheslacker> "could not write NthDegree
[05:42] <runes> do it at a true console
[05:42] <puff> That is, should I be worried that this machine that's been sitting there running nothing is at 145 degrees?
[05:42] <ThePub> silvaran:  I don't have a laptop, this is a desktop.  Hence why I don't find it gratifying.
[05:42] <zodo> runes: Oh, alright.  Kill my xserver then...can do.
[05:43] <NthDegree> ok then what is the device again tuxtheslacker?
[05:43] <sean> hello.  is there a way to install ubuntu directly from an iso on Windows 98 without first burning it to a CD?  I got an old laptop for free without a CD drive
[05:43] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > ok
[05:43] <runes> zodo yup
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ipod.
[05:43] <zodo> runes:  Well, I may or may not be back...possibly I'll be back on my other machine if things go badly.  =)
[05:43] <runes> zodo if the driver is in use and the files that need to be updted you could make things worse
[05:43] <elden> umm, guys, is it alright to have both kubuntu and ubuntu in your pc?
[05:43] <sam1001> sean, you can install it on network
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/sdb3 on /media/ipod type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[05:43] <krazykit> sean: not really.  if you can boot from a floppy, you could use debootstrap to install.
[05:43] <puff> Hm, well, I guess I'll see if it's dusty inside too.
[05:43] <silvaran> ThePub: Have you played around with the service config?... I usually rm the symlinks by hand, but you can usually get rid of the stuff desktops don't need (like lvm, raid, blah...)
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> I have sufficient privlidges, correct?
[05:43] <runes> zodo just be smart about it worst case you unistall the driver
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ^^
[05:44] <sam1001> sean, but you still have to boot to a console to do that
[05:44] <zodo> runes: I'll try to bring down the interface, then unload the module first.
[05:44] <NthDegree> tux the slacker try removing nodev :p
[05:44] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : did you read the requirements in teh INSTALL folder?
[05:44] <runes> zodo make backup copies of your config files so that you can set them back for you current driver
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, what is nodev?
[05:44] <silvaran> ThePub: I have a confession... I'm on windows right now!  Let me ssh into my other box and check things out :)
[05:44] <NthDegree> nodev = removing support for special devices
[05:44] <zodo> runes:  Which config files in particular would you recommend backing up?
[05:44] <ThePub> silvaran:  I'm not crusty, but am fairly familiar with debian.  Trust me, why else would someone notice unless they've been looking? :)
[05:44] <runes> sort of what you do when you update the graphx driver  backup
[05:44] <sam1001> i'm on windows
[05:44] <sean> i have a mac on my network, too, with the iso.  how would i install it over the network?
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, how would I remove it?
[05:45] <sam1001> you must have a boot disk
[05:45] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, no I didnt, heh I shoudv done that earlier. BTW I tried that command I came back with a error that the pakage could not be found
[05:45] <runes> zodo that is a good question...I know a bit but I am not that advanced..I can easily update drivers but without the man pages I really amo not so sure
[05:45] <NthDegree> try on fstab if you have it on there
[05:45] <zodo> runes:  Gotcha.  Well, thanks for the help.  Here goes.
[05:45] <Draconicus> No matter what I do, audio programs record from the mic. I've tried changing this in audacity, aumix, and a number of other things. It still records from mic even when other things are set. What's going on?
[05:45] <sam1001> sean, i guess you could store the boot disk image to a flash drive, and boot from usb
[05:45] <Nathanael> What is the name of the nice-looking web administration package for Ubuntu?
[05:45] <zodo> runes: Hopefully I'll see you soon.
[05:45] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : make sure you have a good sources.list in /etc/apt
[05:45] <runes> zodo good luck not that you will need it :-)
[05:45] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, it's not in fstab.
[05:45] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, sorry I spealt it wrong
[05:45] <sam1001> sean, the minimum is about 50mb
[05:45] <silvaran> ThePub: That's true... I guess the boot screen is a good way to determine whether or not you're a geek... Hey, is that seemingly random text garbage, or pure gold? :)
[05:46] <sean> ah, boot from usb - good idea, thx
[05:46] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, It says I have the latest version
[05:46] <NthDegree> try adding it to fstab maybe that is the problem
[05:46] <radiohead> hmmm
[05:46] <sam1001> sean, yea, it may sound a little fancy
[05:46] <cdubya> Nathanael, web administration, you mean like an all-in-one kinda thing? perhaps webmin?
[05:46] <Nathanael> There is web admin software right?
[05:46] <radiohead> then read teh requirements
[05:46] <radiohead> in teh INSTALL file
[05:46] <Nathanael> Yeah, it was like webmin...
[05:46] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, it's not listed in the fstab.
[05:46] <Nathanael> I remember eeing it on Digg awhile back
[05:46] <tuxtheslacker> how else owuld I cahgne it?
[05:46] <Nathanael> *seeing
[05:46] <cdubya> Nathanael, what are you looking to do
[05:46] <Nathanael> Control samba shares, printers, etc.
[05:46] <strav> anyone had this xkb problem (when trying to switch keyboard layouts?)
[05:46] <sam1001> sean, just wondering if you're installing linux your pc
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, any other ideas?
[05:47] <NthDegree> you add it to /etc/fstab using nano with the correct options
[05:47] <Nathanael> Webuntu?
[05:47] <cdubya> heh
[05:47] <sean> sam1001: yes, installing xubuntu over an old win98 install on a free laptop
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, I let it find itself. is there any way you could give me the line to add to fstab?
[05:47] <cdubya> you could just use the shared folders config in gnome if you like....for the shares anyway
[05:47] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[05:47] <sam1001> sean, great idea, that's my type
[05:47] <sean> i usually run gentoo on my servers, but prefer ubuntu for desktops - esp for my kids
[05:47] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, thank you for your help, but I have to go
[05:47] <radiohead> ok
[05:47] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, Ill drop in tomarrow
[05:48] <radiohead> yeah, the INSTALL file has everything you need to know
[05:48] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > bye ad thanks
[05:48] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Ill read through it
[05:48] <cdubya> Nathanael, you check into SWAT at all?
[05:48] <cdubya> might help you
[05:48] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, thanks! I really appriciate the ehlp.
[05:48] <sam1001> sean, have you made a linux partition yet
[05:48] <silvaran> sean: For your kids?  For the love of god, you ARE the modern father figure :)
[05:48] <cdubya> heh
[05:48] <cdubya> go sean
[05:48] <sean> i can't afford macs for everybody ;-)
[05:48] <NthDegree> tuxtheslacker:  /dev/sdb3    /media/ipod    hfsplus   rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000   0   0
[05:48] <radiohead> hahaha
[05:48] <cdubya> heh
[05:48] <cdubya> no doubr
[05:48] <NthDegree> (i think that is correct)
[05:48] <silvaran> sean: :)
[05:48] <cdubya> doubt, even
[05:49] <sean> besides, i set up ltsp at my kids school and it works well - they all dig it
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, we'll find out soon :-)
[05:49] <cdubya> sean, the only ones I have were gifts, so you could say they're a little old
[05:49] <cdubya> sweet.
[05:49] <NthDegree> you may have to do sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[05:49] <farous> hi, am having some problems with opera and the sun-java from the repos. opera can not find the java plugin dir anyone can help?
[05:49] <varsendaggr> how do i get a program to acces the net
[05:49] <NthDegree> after adding that to the fstab do sudo mount -a
[05:49] <radiohead> varsendaggr: what do you mean?
[05:49] <sean> thanks guys - over and out ... i'll try booting off a usb drive
[05:49] <cdubya> varsendaggr, yeah, what are you talking about?
[05:50] <bean> hi i need some help with cisco vpn. it requires the kernel headers, but i can only find 2.4.x kernel headers in synaptic
[05:50] <radiohead> varsendaggr: well, generally, you have to compile it, make sure there are no errors etc...
[05:50] <tuxtheslacker> mount: special device /dev/sdb3 does not exist
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ^^
[05:51] <Nathanael> GTG
[05:51] <radiohead> tuxtheslacker: sata?
[05:51] <silvaran> bean: What about the 'linux-headers' package ??
[05:51] <NthDegree> doh lol
[05:51] <SirFunk> hey.. i just downloaded ubuntu ppc and i'm trying to install it on my powerbook.. however when the livecd starts up, it throws a bunch of errors about not being able to start nautilus and the gnome config editor crashing.. any ideas?
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> radiohead, no.
[05:51] <NthDegree> radiohead it? an ipod
[05:51] <radiohead> oh
[05:51] <radiohead> :-/
[05:52] <NthDegree> wtf with my s and ? mixing as ?
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, still no go.
[05:52] <bean> silvaran: thanks!!!
[05:52] <bean> silvaran: i'm blind
[05:52] <NthDegree> yea i figured tux
[05:52] <varsendaggr> it is a windows program and it wants to connect to a master server
[05:52] <morphix> i have xubuntu installed.. when i try i use the right click menu to exit xfce.. i get the "xfce4-session is not running error" even tho i can clearly see that it IS running, what could be the problem? screenshot >> http://members.westnet.com.au/morphix56/xfcesessionerror.JPG
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, you wanted to get rid of nodev in there, but under options you still have it set and nodev?
[05:52] <bean> silvaran: i only saw the kernel-headers packages
[05:52] <silvaran> bean: You're blind?  Wow, that's some amazing IRC interface you must have going there :)
[05:52] <NthDegree> oops
[05:52] <NthDegree> just remove nodev
[05:52] <bean> heh
[05:52] <silvaran> bean: I don't blame you, they are rather confusingly named :)
[05:53] <bean> yeah
[05:53] <varsendaggr> anyone
[05:53] <radiohead> varsendaggr: a windows program accessing an ubuntu server?
[05:53] <sam1001> why doesn't an executable run when i click on its icon
[05:53] <bean> kernel-headers and linux-kernel-headers
[05:53] <bean> sigh
[05:53] <silvaran> morphix: She needs bigger boobs... maybe that's your problem.
[05:53] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, is there any other way to deal with it?
[05:53] <morphix> eh.
[05:53] <varsendaggr> radiohead, a windows program connecting to a windows server
[05:54] <radiohead> varsendaggr: :-/ this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[05:54] <NthDegree> i don?t know as i don?t use proprietary stuff like ipods anymore
[05:54] <SirFunk> is there a text-based install util on the livecd?
[05:54] <sam1001> has anyone heard of WINE
[05:54] <radiohead> sam1001: yes
[05:54] <sam1001> WINE works just like windows and free
[05:54] <radiohead> sam1001: not really
[05:54] <silvaran> morphix: Sorry I'm just being a dufus... I can't help you :(
[05:54] <sam1001> radiohead how so
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> sam1001,  well thats an overstatement
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> its not  'just like' windows.
[05:55] <varsendaggr> i am running it in ubuntu
[05:55] <radiohead> sam1001: it can only run basic apps, with WoW
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, any other ideas?
[05:55] <morphix> sam1001 WINE works just like windows and free << yes it is.. its just as unstable :P
[05:55] <NthDegree> i have no ideas
[05:55] <sam1001> radiohead, they're still building it
[05:55] <NthDegree> brb
[05:55] <silvaran> morphix: : Good call :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> sam1001,  and they will never be done... so whats the point.
[05:55] <radiohead> sam1001: yeah they are, but it is way less powerful than windows
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree,  :-( thanks for the help anyhow. is there any other way to make it mount without nodev?
[05:55] <radiohead> varsendaggr: oh
[05:56] <tuxtheslacker> anyone else manage to get an ipod to work with linux?
[05:56] <radiohead> varsendaggr: ho do you know it isn't connecting?
[05:56] <radiohead> how*
[05:57] <varsendaggr> it tells me and it sayis maybe you should confiugre you firewall
[05:57] <morphix> tuxtheslacker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:57] <varsendaggr> how should i do that?
[05:57] <radiohead> that's weird
[05:57] <radiohead> what is it? the app?
[05:57] <Dial_tone> define work, My nano shows up in dapper drake and I can play stuff. i haven't copied to it yet
[05:58] <varsendaggr> XBOX connect
[05:58] <sam1001> dial_tone, can you transfer files between linux and your nano
[05:58] <radiohead> varsendaggr: heh, good luck with that
[05:59] <backz> Hey, I'm using ubuntu 6.06, with kernel linux-k7, I haven't /dev/lp0 but lsmod returns parport_pc, parport, is loaded. Dmesg returns: [17179590.824000]  lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[05:59] <backz> can someone help me ?
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> morphix, I've done that, but it's telling me I don't have permissions when the thing mounts.
[05:59] <varsendaggr> radiohead, it has to be simple right   it is using a port and i just need to let it use the port
[05:59] <morphix> well than i cant help.. if i had a IGay i could
[05:59] <radiohead> nah, not with WINE
[06:00] <radiohead> varsendaggr: you are using WINE correct>
[06:00] <radiohead> or cedega?
[06:00] <varsendaggr> yeah wine
[06:00] <radiohead> yeah, i doubt wine can handle it
[06:00] <cdubya> morphix, :)
[06:00] <varsendaggr> hmmm
[06:00] <morphix> i have xubuntu installed.. when i try i use the right click menu to exit xfce.. i get the "xfce4-session is not running error" even tho i can clearly see that it IS running, what could be the problem? screenshot >> http://members.westnet.com.au/morphix56/xfcesessionerror.JPG
[06:00] <radiohead> try cedega
[06:00] <morphix> :(
[06:00] <radiohead> morphix: try going into a tty
[06:01] <radiohead> and killalling it
[06:01] <ThePub> oh well, third restart is a charm I guess :)
[06:01] <spikeb> morphix: nice background, where can i get it?
[06:01] <varsendaggr> radiohead, i think i am just going to VMplayer win200k and do it up.... when i can get 1000 extra mb of disk space
[06:01] <bean> silvaran: can u help me again? i'm using the 686 kernel, so i have both a /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25 and a /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25-686 directory. when i install cisco it asks for "the" headers directory. which one should i give it?
[06:01] <radiohead> varsendaggr: VMplayer rules
[06:01] <sam1001> linux becomes unstable when there is a driver error
[06:01] <radiohead> that should work
[06:02] <sam1001> and it quits to console mode
[06:02] <morphix> radiohead: i know other ways of getting out of xfce.. but i want the NORMAL way to work.
[06:02] <varsendaggr> i hate dual booting
[06:02] <radiohead> oh, haha
[06:02] <varsendaggr> yeah
[06:02] <Cin> spikeb, you talking about the pic of that woman who looks like her from Underworld?
[06:02] <morphix> spikeb: www.skins.be
[06:03] <cdubya> what exactly is VMPlayer's func?
[06:03] <spikeb> is that jennifer love hewitt ?
[06:03] <morphix> no.
[06:03] <morphix> its the chick from underworld :P
[06:03] <spikeb> damn it
[06:03] <spikeb> good enough
[06:03] <varsendaggr> cdubya, it is a virtual machine
[06:04] <silvaran> bean: I would use the 686 dir just to be safe, but it's possible the other one is just a symlink.
[06:04] <cdubya> varsendaggr, so you can run winders apps inside of it....?
[06:04] <morphix> damnit >.< why the heck wont xfce log out even tho stupid ass xfce4-session IS running.. wtf is the problem.
[06:04] <varsendaggr> cdubya, you can run windows inside of it
[06:04] <cdubya> ah
[06:04] <cdubya> sweet
[06:04] <Lock1> how do i get gaim to get rid of these stupid invite add send buttons on the bottom
[06:05] <bean> silvaran: u're right the 686 dir is *mostly* symlinks
[06:05] <varsendaggr> cdubya, and bsd and etch and xandros and dapper and the new ubuntu
[06:05] <tuxtheslacker> how do I change permissions on this thing when it mounts automatically?
[06:05] <bean> so u think i should use the 686 dir still?
[06:05] <sam1001> invent a way to switch between windows and linux instantaneously
[06:05] <tuxtheslacker> like how can I find out how it mounted?
[06:05] <varsendaggr> you don't even have to partition
[06:05] <cdubya> varsendagger, there a deb to install anywhere?
[06:05] <bean> oops
[06:05] <varsendaggr> sam1001, cdubya just a sec
[06:06] <sam1001> varsendaggr, ?
[06:06] <cdubya>  varsendaggr, if you've got a winders install, can you run that inside of vmplayer, or does it have to be installed inside the VMPlayer environment
[06:07] <radiohead> |_ocke: get gaim2.0
[06:07] <sam1001> cdubya is a name
[06:07] <sam1001> now it makes sense
[06:07] <cdubya> heh
[06:07] <|_ocke> oh i see
[06:07] <|_ocke> is it in synaptic
[06:07] <radiohead> nope
[06:07] <radiohead> it's best to svn it and compile it
[06:07] <sam1001> virtual machines are always slow
[06:08] <Wewt> hello people. ive recently installed windows vista its not too bad but does it really mess up the booting part. i cannot access any linux partitions and ive tried numerous methods of trying to get grub working with the ubuntu cd etc, get all sorts of errors about how it fails to grub-install etc, are there any users who have had the same issue? (do i need to reinstall ubuntu?)
[06:08] <|_ocke> virtual machines are not real programming
[06:08] <sam1001> java is an example
[06:08] <sam1001> jvm
[06:08] <radiohead> Wewt: did you install ubuntu first or windows?
[06:08] <|_ocke> IMO
[06:08] <|_ocke> EXACTLY
[06:08] <radiohead> oh
[06:08] <radiohead> does vista protect teh MBR?
[06:09] <varsendaggr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu?highlight=%28emu%29
[06:09] <Wewt> radiohead windows xp, ubuntu and just recently after someone told me to try it out i installed vista
[06:09] <Wewt> i think so
[06:09] <tuxtheslacker> can someone PLEASE help me with my iPod? I kind of really need it to work :-(
[06:09] <varsendaggr> sam1001, ^^^^^
[06:09] <sam1001> hi varsendaggr
[06:09] <varsendaggr> hi
[06:09] <Wewt> radiohead i think it has some kinda protection
[06:09] <radiohead> heh, you have to install GRUB onto a floppy or something and boot from that to choose
[06:09] <Wewt> aww i wish i had a floppy drive :/
[06:10] <varsendaggr> cdubya, there is the link up there
[06:10] <Wewt> possible to install it onto a cdrom? make it bootable etc?
[06:10] <radiohead> Wewt: usb drive?
[06:10] <cdubya> kewl, thanks.
[06:10] <radiohead> Wewt: probably
[06:10] <Wewt> i have a usb drive
[06:10] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, you look at the wiki?
[06:10] <|_ocke> how do i get x-chat to show back up on the synaptic list after i uninstall it
[06:10] <Wewt> but i dont think i can boot off a usb device
[06:10] <radiohead> whichever works best for you
[06:10] <|_ocke> it is not installed and it doesnt show up in the list
[06:10] <radiohead> |_ocke: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:10] <radiohead> :-/
[06:10] <sam1001> so does vmware run on windows
[06:10] <Wewt> i see so this will be required every time i wish to boot into ubuntu until there is a solution ?
[06:11] <radiohead> sam1001: no
[06:11] <radiohead> Wewt: maybe
[06:11] <Wewt> ok and how would i go about making a "grub" cd ?
[06:11] <radiohead> I really don't know what all to do with dual-booting with vista
[06:11] <radiohead> that just seems like the best thing to do IMO
[06:11] <Wewt> radiohead lol trust me dont go there :)
[06:12] <cdubya> man, I've had a fit just getting grub to install with XP....let alone even considering vista.....no thanks. :)
[06:12] <someothernick> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
[06:12] <radiohead> and I don't know how to install grub to a CD
[06:12] <radiohead> google it
[06:12] <Wewt> hogs resources like nothing ive seen before
[06:12] <Wewt> someothernick thanks
[06:12] <someothernick> np
[06:12] <radiohead> cdubya: reallY?
[06:12] <cdubya> radiohead, yep.
[06:12] <radiohead> I install ubuntu and XP all teh time on the same machine and never have a problem
[06:12] <cdubya> man, I've tried everything I could find or ask.....still no dice.
[06:13] <cdubya> Course I keep trying to tell the guy to try Ubuntu, but he's jetset on Fedora
[06:13] <radiohead> cdubya: what's teh problem?
[06:13] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why I can't use 1024x768 resolution with unreal tournament?  NO MATTER WHAT I'VE TRIED.
[06:14] <radiohead> since GRUB goes on teh MBR
[06:14] <cdubya> varsendaggr, I know that. ;)
[06:14] <Wewt> someothernick hmm i dont have a linux machine :/
[06:14] <Draconicus> No matter what I do, audio programs record from the mic. I've tried changing this in audacity, aumix, and a number of other things. It still records from mic even when other things are set. What's going on?
[06:14] <someothernick> :/
[06:14] <varsendaggr> ohhh
[06:14] <cdubya> XP was there first the whole time
[06:14] <cdubya> heh
[06:14] <cdubya> It's all Winders fault.
[06:14] <cdubya> I'm sure of it.
[06:14] <cdubya> Or at least that sounds good.
[06:14] <cdubya> :)
[06:14] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:14] <Lorri> D<
[06:15] <Dr_Geek> XP = Xtra Problems
[06:15] <varsendaggr> cdubya, youneed to get rid of xp then run it under vmplayer
[06:15] <Wewt> ahahahah
[06:15] <Wewt> Dr_Geek nicely put what about Vista ?:P
[06:15] <Lorri> What version of X does Ubuntu use
[06:15] <Dr_Geek> more crap
[06:15] <radiohead> Lorri: System>Preferences>KeyBoard Shortcuts
[06:15] <cdubya> radiohead, no, seriously, I've spent HOURS and HOURS trying to resolve it....nothing helped.
[06:15] <spikeb> Lorri: x.org 7.0 in dapper
[06:16] <radiohead> cdubya: have you booted into recovery mode on windows and ran fixmbr, then reinstalled grub?
[06:16] <chris_> DBO here?
[06:16] <Lorri> oh ok
[06:16] <Lorri> Also, shift+backspace isn't in the keyboard shortcuts thing
[06:16] <myworld122> hey guys...i'm having problem while trying to mount ntfs vol with write support. I'ved tried this guide many times: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=write+ntfs. but i cant get it work...any suggestions?
[06:16] <chris_> DBO you here man?
[06:16] <cdubya> radiohead, I had to run recovery mode on windows just to get the thing to boot at all as at one point, after the grub-install retry for the umpteenth time, it wouldn't boot at all.....
[06:17] <radiohead> wow
[06:17] <cdubya> and yes, I did a fixmbr. ;)
[06:17] <radiohead> tha tsucks
[06:17] <cdubya> yeah.
[06:17] <cdubya> tell me about it.
[06:17] <radiohead> that*
[06:17] <radiohead> lol
[06:17] <efox> hey
[06:17] <cdubya> He wanted me to call in "the big guns".
[06:17] <cdubya> Went to #fedora.
[06:17] <efox> hooray :D
[06:17] <cdubya> Asked here....
[06:17] <cdubya> no dice
[06:17] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why I can't use 1024x768 resolution with unreal tournament? If I try it closes the game and leaves me in 640x480 resolution...
[06:17] <radiohead> I am still on Breezy...
[06:18] <cdubya> It's cool to convert your friends.
[06:18] <blank> chris_, you there man?
[06:18] <Sivik> how do i view my login manager file
[06:18] <Locke_> i have my roommate using ubuntu
[06:18] <cdubya> "Friends convert friends to Dapper."
[06:18] <varsendaggr> hey this is the best thing about linux two words      live CD
[06:18] <cdubya> heh
[06:18] <chris_> blank i am here
[06:18] <radiohead> Cntryboy: why would you want to run a 1024, it's a waste of RAM
[06:18] <|_ocke> dapper even
[06:18] <blank> chris_, hey it's me man, blanky
[06:18] <chris_> ;) send the movie?
[06:18] <|_ocke> and hes never even seen linux before
[06:18] <blanky> chris_, :D if you can, that'd be great! if not it's okay :)
[06:18] <Cntryboy> because it looks better than 800x600
[06:18] <chris_> blank i got high all day sorry i am late so much to do now
[06:18] <Madpilot> varsendaggr, LiveCD is one word ;)
[06:18] <chris_> ok ill send it on here
[06:18] <efox> I have a question on where to find something in particular. Ive seen screen shots of some THING where the terminal was either part of the desktop  or the terminal had its own wallpaper...anyone kno what im talkin bout ?
[06:19] <cdubya> suweet......setting up the packages.....can't wait to get him on Dapper.....
[06:19] <cdubya> :D
[06:19] <cdubya> later tony. :)
[06:19] <chris_> let me know the speed ;)
[06:19] <varsendaggr> Madpilot, hey you are smart
[06:19] <myworld122> hey guys...i'm having problem while trying to mount ntfs vol with write support. I'ved tried this guide many times: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=write+ntfs. but i cant get it work...any suggestions?
[06:19] <radiohead> efox: that is a resource whore, so if you want firefox to take like a minute to start, I wouldn't us eit
[06:19] <efox> is this a 'theme' im lookin for or is it something i can do on my own
[06:19] <Cntryboy> radiohead did ya see my response?
[06:19] <efox> i dont think u can write on ntfs
[06:19] <radiohead> s/if/unless
[06:19] <efox> i think its only read
[06:20] <cdubya> efox, yep
[06:20] <efox> but im a n00b so what do i kno...
[06:20] <radiohead> Cntryboy: :-/
[06:20] <Cntryboy> it does though lol
[06:20] <radiohead> make sure your drivers are configured right
[06:20] <Cntryboy> so do u know how I can fix my problem?
[06:20] <Sivik> nickrud, can you help me, i'm trying to find the session/login manager
[06:20] <chris_> blanky is it downloading?
[06:20] <radiohead> does everything else run fine?
[06:20] <myworld122> efox: try reading the guide...my friend can get it work with fedore
[06:20] <blanky> chris_, eh?
[06:20] <myworld122> fedore
[06:20] <myworld122> fedora
[06:20] <chris_> i sent it on here?
[06:20] <Cntryboy> my drivers are
[06:20] <Cntryboy> the game works
[06:20] <efox> myworld122: get what working ?
[06:20] <Cntryboy> the config file has nvidia not nv
[06:20] <Cntryboy> i don't know what else to change
[06:21] <myworld122> efox: writing on NTFS vom
[06:21] <myworld122> vol
[06:21] <radiohead> did you run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[06:21] <cdubya> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[06:21] <efox> myworld122: lol wrong person
[06:21] <blanky> chris_, nah you didn't, you might've but i didn't get any notice, hey man, you're going to send it through irc? that'd be kinda slow heh, why not just give me the link to the file, if not it's okay, if you insist on irc transfer :P
[06:21] <Cntryboy> not sure
[06:21] <Cntryboy> what does that do?
[06:21] <Madpilot> efox, you can set gnome terminal to have a background
[06:21] <radiohead> run it
[06:21] <myworld122> efox: sorry
[06:21] <butler> hi. do linux ubuntu need to install anti virus?
[06:21] <radiohead> then restart GNOME
[06:21] <Madpilot> butler, no
[06:21] <someothernick> yes no
[06:21] <Cntryboy> k
[06:21] <radiohead> butler: no
[06:21] <efox> myworld122:  lol no worries
[06:22] <myworld122> cdubya: thanks
[06:22] <chris_> blanky  :| if dbo was here he would help me out on my ftp :(
[06:22] <Madpilot> efox, Edit->Current Profile, Effects tab
[06:22] <varsendaggr> hey i have two nic's how do i share my connection?
[06:22] <efox> Madpilot: how do you set the terminal or if u can throw me a keyword to google
[06:22] <chris_> ;) then ull get it
[06:22] <butler> i'm using a pentium 3 laptop. after installation, i did purchase a wifi adapter card ( Aztech ) how to configure?
[06:22] <efox> Madpilot: ok cool. I'll have a go at it
[06:22] <efox> thanks
[06:22] <chris_> or apache would be helpful to be fixed
[06:22] <cdubya> myworld122, np
[06:22] <varsendaggr> is there a way to controll a windows program from my machine on the same network
[06:22] <blanky> chris_, LOL, it's okay then man i'll wait, the time I wait for you to put it on ftp would be faster than the time it'd take to send through here, unless you dont mind leaving your computer on and stuff
[06:22] <Cntryboy> radiohead check pm
[06:23] <cdubya> varsendaggr, umm, huh?
[06:23] <chris_> i dont mind leaving my computer on ;)
[06:23] <chris_> well laptop
[06:23] <chris_> :)
[06:23] <|_ocke> can i resize my / partition
[06:24] <|_ocke> its pretty much full and ubuntu doesnt install anything in /usr
[06:24] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:24] <Lorri> to restart X
[06:24] <chris_> blanky unless gaim transfer it?
[06:24] <blanky> chris_, probably'd take even longer
[06:24] <|_ocke> i made /usr 7 gigs and / 3 in anticipation of it  installing extra stuff on /usr
[06:24] <radiohead> I want some root beer
[06:24] <chris_> blanky sry :|
[06:24] <blanky> chris_, let me boot into my other ubuntu partition kay?
[06:24] <gr33npho4nix> chris_: did you try -c blowfish option for sftp
[06:24] <blanky> chris_, it's okay man
[06:24] <Cntryboy> radiohead I left the error msg in ur pm
[06:24] <Cntryboy> so i didn't scroll in here
[06:24] <gr33npho4nix> that tens to speed things up a good portion for me
[06:24] <Dial_tone> locke, when did you first install
[06:24] <chris_> using proftpd
[06:25] <cdubya> root beer.......
[06:25] <blanky> chris_, so you don't mind leaving your computer on? kay cool, we can leave it on downloading during the (at least where I live) night
[06:25] <cdubya> oh man, it's all diet....
[06:25] <cdubya> heh
[06:25] <cdubya> something really twisted about that
[06:25] <chris_> yah sounds gud blanky
[06:25] <chris_> pm me
[06:25] <blanky> kay
[06:25] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:25] <Cntryboy> radiohead?
[06:26] <blanky> hey guys
[06:26] <radiohead> Cntryboy: Yeah
[06:26] <radiohead> read the pom
[06:26] <radiohead> pm*
[06:26] <blanky> would this ( cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast ) really blank a CD-R at /dev/cdrom? so that I can write over it?
[06:26] <radiohead> run that command
[06:26] <Cntryboy> you never wrote back
[06:26] <radiohead> that it tells you to run
[06:26] <Cntryboy> are you reg. to this network
[06:26] <Cntryboy> ur nickname
[06:26] <cdubya> this upgrade goes alot smoother using the update manager........and it's going rather quickly, even on my friend's older laptop.....
[06:26] <radiohead> heh, I hope I will be
[06:26] <Cntryboy> if ur not reg nick u can't pm me
[06:27] <Cntryboy> because i didn't see anything u wrote
[06:27] <radiohead> run that md5 command it tells you to run
[06:27] <varsendaggr> has anyone used putty?
[06:27] <Cntryboy> so why do I have to run that command
[06:27] <cdubya> by the way, thumbs up to the developer crew on Dapper....the upgrade setup was great. Made it really slick.
[06:27] <Cntryboy> what is it having me do?
[06:27] <jrib> varsendaggr: yes
[06:27] <cdubya> varsendaggr, yep
[06:28] <varsendaggr> jrib, can you use it to run programs on windows form you linux box?
[06:28] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please do me a huge favor and tell me how to change permissions on my ipod?
[06:28] <cdubya> varsendaggr, whatcha trying to do?
[06:28] <Cntryboy> radiohead, it came back with this, 2949ed043bcf70bb326e1e73da8760ee  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:28] <monkeyan> could someone please help me with direct redering with 9600xt card?
[06:28] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: chmod
[06:28] <radiohead> Cntryboy: because the MD5 sum of your config file doesn't match what it should be
[06:28] <varsendaggr> use my wife's computer to run a windows program
[06:28] <radiohead> Cntryboy: now run the first command
[06:28] <jrib> varsendaggr: guess you would have to setup an ssh server on the windows box, haven't done that myself
[06:28] <radiohead> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:28] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I chmod 777 /media/ipod, and still dind't change the permissions
[06:28] <varsendaggr> hmmmmm
[06:29] <efox> sweeet !
[06:29] <varsendaggr> but that would be the way to do it?
[06:29] <cdubya> varsendaggr, you have like XDeep or and XServer to setup forwarding through putty?
[06:29] <efox> i wish i knew more of the things i can do with linux
[06:29] <Cntryboy> okay it wants to restart
[06:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: sudo chmod -R 777
[06:29] <Cntryboy> so
[06:29] <tuxtheslacker> -R ?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> is this setting the config file back to defaults
[06:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: recursive
[06:29] <radiohead> to what it should be
[06:29] <radiohead> yes
[06:29] <Cntryboy> im not sure what im doing these commands for
[06:29] <radiohead> you need to restart X for the changes to take effect
[06:29] <Cntryboy> only thing I changed was the line nv to nvidia
[06:29] <Cntryboy> like the help tells me 2
[06:29] <varsendaggr> cdubya, i am just going to byte the bullet and get a bigger hard drive
[06:30] <Cntryboy> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:30] <radiohead> yeah
[06:30] <efox> i tried to play around with 'alias' in my .bash_profile it doesnt do anything. However if i create an alias in terminal it works fine...any thoughts
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I'm not getting this to work.
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> what's the full command krazykit?
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> sudo chmod -R /media/ipod 777 breaks.
[06:30] <jrib> efox: bash_profile only gets sourced for login shells
[06:30] <jrib> efox: you may want to use ~/.bashrc instead
[06:31] <radiohead> I hope that Ctry guy knows how to startx X back up
[06:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: sudo chmod 777 -R /media/ipod
[06:31] <cdubya> varsendaggr, k. :)
[06:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: hfs+ works: http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/hacks/ipod.html#hfs
[06:31] <efox> jrib:  so if i log out and log in, would the alias' i created work or no ? and ya ill play around with .bashrc as well
[06:31] <jrib> efox: are you using a terminal in X or is this an actual login shell?
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it's telling me it doens't have permissions....
[06:32] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: is that the exact error message?
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> it gives owners write permission, and that's it.
[06:32] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, did you type sudo before the command
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> yeah.
[06:32] <jrib> efox: are you in gnome or kde now?
[06:32] <efox> jrib: pardon my lack of knowledge
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, chmod works, but it doesn't change permissions on it when I right-click and hit permissions.
[06:33] <efox> jrib: gnome
[06:33] <efox> jrib: im unsure of how to respond to the terminal in x or login shell question :S
[06:33] <cdubya> radiohead, heh....just saw your comment. :)
[06:33] <cdubya> hope he does too.
[06:33] <radiohead> oh
[06:33] <radiohead> heh
[06:33] <radiohead> yeah
[06:34] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: then i don't know.  i just know that hfs+ writing works, and that libgpod doesn't care about the filesystem.
[06:34] <SurfnKid> question
[06:34] <tuxtheslacker> and krazykit the exact message form amarok is "Could not write to /media/iPod_Control/Music/F01/kpod1.mp3.
[06:34] <SurfnKid> Does AIGLX run on 5.10?
[06:34] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:34] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, this is true... I just need to grant it permissions when it auto mounts so that I can write to it?
[06:35] <jrib> efox: this was confusing when I first learned about it too, and I may not explain it in the best way...    Now, press ctrl-alt-f1 and that will be a login shell, to return to X, press alt-f7.  To answer your question, no your alias won't work if you logout and back in, you need to use ~/.bashrc because that is what file bash will source when you run it under gnome
[06:35] <SurfnKid> I would like to do the 3D rendering but not sure if it is supported by the kerrnel or whatnot
[06:35] <tuxtheslacker> it gives the owner write permissions supposedly.
[06:35] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: iunno, probably.  in theory, automount should give you permissions anyway.
[06:35] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: but it sounds more like it's NOT mounted as rw.
[06:35] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it says that owner has it.
[06:35] <patch> bla, bla, bla... |
[06:35] <patch> |
[06:35] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/sda3 on /media/ipod-1 type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[06:36] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, ls -al /media/ipod
[06:36] <efox> jrib: sweeet...ok ill play around with the .bashrc and see what happens
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/sda3 on /media/ipod-1 type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 2006-06-16 23:36 .created_by_pmount
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> sorry.
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2006-06-16 23:36 .
[06:37] <tuxtheslacker> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2006-06-17 00:03 ..
[06:37] <tuxtheslacker> I'm sorry, I shoulnd't have posted that many lines,  Iknow.
[06:37] <chris_> u guys doing ftp server?
[06:37] <jrib> efox: once you edit ~/.bashrc, it will only take effect if you open a new terminal, or source the file yourself with this command: source ~/.bashrc
[06:37] <krazykit> chris_: no.
[06:37] <chris_> what is it?
[06:37] <krazykit> ipod
[06:37] <chris_> oh ok
[06:37] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, cdubya ^^
[06:37] <chris_> :)
[06:37] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, have you tried gtkpod at all?
[06:38] <chris_> DBO you here?
[06:38] <chris_> :P
[06:38] <tuxtheslacker> cdubya, gtkpod won't even read it.
[06:38] <cdubya> ah
[06:38] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: yes, couldn't miss it.  maybe try chowning it too?
[06:38] <cdubya> that's what I was thinking...
[06:38] <chris_> i love ubuntu with GTK2-ClearlooksDarkOrange
[06:38] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I think I needed to install gtkpod-aac too, and not gtkpod... that'd explain it.
[06:39] <Sivik> i need to know how to edit my xdm so it regonizes e17
[06:39] <cdubya> welp, going to call it a night. night all
[06:39] <wrath> Hello all, can someone help: I am trying to run a perl script in the terminal, I have given the script the proper permissions, yet once I run it the terminal appears and quickly closes. Is there a way to stop it from closing and doing what I told it to do. Sorry for the long question.
[06:39] <chris_> someone could help me with my apache :)
[06:39] <tuxtheslacker> yup, gtkpod-aac doens't even read it.
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> i've just installed 3ddesk but i get this message: "3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> "
[06:40] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:40] <Lorri> erm
[06:40] <Lorri> nvm
[06:40] <Lorri> >_>; found it myself
[06:40] <krazykit> wrath: run it from a terminal, not from nautilus
[06:41] <Dex-Freudii> how do I configure hardware acceleration?
[06:41] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: ati or nvidia?
[06:41] <Samus_Aran> does Ubuntu archive older releases of software ?  I am currently on a 2.6.15 kernel and not wanting to reboot, but need to compile a kernel module that requires a source tree for the currently running kernel
[06:41] <Dex-Freudii> none
[06:41] <wrath> Is there a way in which I can just click the icon and have it run that way?
[06:41] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: ... then what kind of card?
[06:41] <wrath> It gives me the option to but it won't work that way
[06:41] <Dex-Freudii> regular? i don't know
[06:41] <tuxtheslacker> I think I was trying to copy oggs too.
[06:41] <robert_> I want an online apt-get repository, where can I find one/
[06:42] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: i'm asking about the graphics card your computer uses.  "regular" is not an option.  in a terminal, do "lspci" and look for either nvidia or ati
[06:42] <Dex-Freudii> S3 Savage
[06:43] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: do "glxinfo|grep rendering"
[06:43] <Samus_Aran> screw it, gonna reboot
[06:43] <Dex-Freudii> "direct rendering: No
[06:43] <Dex-Freudii> "
[06:44] <jrib> ubotu: tell robert_ about easysource
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> gar!! why is this thing not working!?
[06:44] <ChakRa> guys whats the command to install fping on dapper/ubuntu?? i tried sudo apt-get install fping didnt work
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> :-(
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, can you send me any ideas you would have for an fstab?
[06:44] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: search around for the s3 savage card and how to get direct rendering working.  i'm not familiar with it
[06:45] <raldi> I think my /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386 is corrupt. If there's anyone out there who has a copy, can you send me the md5sum? Thanks
[06:45] <Dex-Freudii> what is direct rendering?
[06:45] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: nope.  ubuntu uses some automounter
[06:45] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I know.... it kinda stinks :-(
[06:45] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: it uses the graphics card to do 3d stuff.
[06:45] <tuxtheslacker> I like it but I hate it too!
[06:45] <tich> hi. i've been having trouble streaming radio. it is all choppy in both listen and rhythmbox podcasts are also choppy. what should i do?
[06:45] <marky> raldi, a560fa2b64412de75d9d1557452e8670  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
[06:45] <Dex-Freudii> krazykit, thanx
[06:45] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: meaning find the config for the automounter.
[06:45] <tuxtheslacker> yeah, where is the config?
[06:46] <krazykit> dunno.
[06:46] <Frogzoo> tich: get more b/w
[06:46] <Sashi> hey
[06:46] <Sashi> how do i check my hdas again?
[06:46] <Sashi> i forgot
[06:47] <tich> frogzoo, how do i get more band width?
[06:48] <raldi> marky: hmm. mine's dbb7c784900d12c1592a1c6b34813346 even though it has the same filename.
[06:48] <marky> why do you think it's corrupt
[06:48] <marky> just remake a new one
[06:49] <raldi> i tried, but when i boot, it fails to find /dev/hda
[06:49] <raldi> and dumps me into busybox
[06:49] <bean> hi need urgent help
[06:49] <bean> can't get cisco vpn to work
[06:49] <bean> or vpnc
[06:49] <raldi> i found an open ubuntu bug for this, but the workaround doesn't work
[06:49] <Sashi> erm
[06:49] <Sashi> a lil help
[06:49] <Sashi> when i do sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:49] <raldi> it says to run evms_activate, but when i do that, it says, "Unable to open the control node for Device-Manager"
[06:49] <Sashi> it says xchat not found
[06:49] <noiesmo> hello is there someway I can password protect folders in my home directory
[06:50] <raldi> searching Google for that string turns up no workable leads
[06:50] <IsDis4Me> I need HELP, how do I install NVIDIA GLX
[06:50] <IsDis4Me> it wont accept the enable command
[06:50] <krazykit> ubotu: tell IsDis4Me about nvidia
[06:51] <tich> Frogzoo, do you mean: set up the programs so that they use more bandwidth?
[06:51] <Cntryboy> radiohead, you screwed up my whole pc dude
[06:51] <Cntryboy> I'm having to use live cd now
[06:51] <Cntryboy> x couldn't be started back up leaving me with command prompt not knowing what to do
[06:52] <Cntryboy> I need some help folks
[06:52] <Cntryboy> big time
[06:52] <Sivik> Cntryboy, what is it this time?
[06:52] <Dial_tone> sashi use synaptic and make sure you have all the repositories enabled
[06:53] <Sashi> ah i forgot about that
[06:53] <Sashi> :P
[06:53] <Sashi> btw
[06:53] <Sashi> ubuntu changed a lot eh
[06:53] <Cntryboy> some dude called radiohead had me do a command to tell x to go default and then a command to restart it
[06:53] <Sashi> i remeber using ubuntu when it was at v4
[06:53] <Cntryboy> he then said restart X, when I did x couldn't be restarted leaving me in prompt, now im in live cd
[06:53] <Sashi> warty i think it was called :p
[06:54] <krazykit> Cntryboy: that doesn't tell us anything.  was it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or something like that?
[06:54] <tich> my stream radio is all choppy in both listen and rhythmbox. i have a highspeed connection and the programs work in all other respects.  what should i do?
[06:54] <Cntryboy> shit I don't remember
[06:54] <Cntryboy> i copied and pasted
[06:54] <SurfnKid> guys i have Ubuntu 6.06 running on a Vaio Laptop, How can I shut off the xserver so that i only get a login prompt. and also the ability to turn the xserver back on
[06:54] <Cntryboy> I just need to get my X config to start in normal mode
[06:54] <krazykit> Cntryboy: well, if we don't know what you did, it's a lot harder to help.
[06:55] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:55] <Cntryboy> I tried telling u, he had me do a command to make my shit whats it call
[06:55] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start restarts it
[06:55] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:55] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Language.
[06:55] <Cntryboy> what will that do noiesmo
[06:55] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, select vesa as video drive will run with any card to get you X
[06:55] <Cntryboy> can I do that from here or do I have to boot up normally?
[06:56] <krazykit> Cntryboy: boot up normally.
[06:56] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ^^
[06:56] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, let me ask you this, will it consume more memory if its on. while im working on the other 7 tty workspaces or will it not make a difference stopping it
[06:56] <robert_> jrib: so, where to I put this list?
[06:56] <NthDegree> krazykit, will patching in reiser4 then doing sudo make modules and sudo make modules_install give me reiser4 support?
[06:56] <Cntryboy> okay let me write that down js
[06:56] <SirFunk> does ubuntu server install a gui by default
[06:56] <Madpilot> SirFunk, no, not the server install
[06:56] <Sivik> Sir_Brizz, no
[06:56] <SirFunk> ahh ok
[06:56] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: It'll swap out if you aren't using it and need the RAM
[06:57] <MrBrizzio> Sivik, lol, not me :)
[06:57] <NthDegree> ubuntu desktop and ubuntu alternate do though
[06:57] <krazykit> NthDegree: yeah, it should.
[06:57] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, ok so it will make a diff, cool to know
[06:57] <Cntryboy> okay let me try that
[06:57] <Cntryboy> I did notice though after he had me do that
[06:58] <NthDegree> k :D
[06:58] <rupert> any ndis wizards around? syslog says that 1.8 doesn't match driver version 1.7, and i have no idea what that means.
[06:58] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, its an old laptop, im trying to not consume a lot of ram, gui runs just fine but until i get more memory I dont wanna drag the hdd
[06:58] <Cntryboy> my video card in conf was changed to ati radion instead of gts pro 2
[06:58] <Cntryboy> but driver device was still nvidia
[06:58] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: How much RAM do you have?
[06:58] <krazykit> Cntryboy: yeah, that's probably the problem
[06:58] <Sivik> MrBrizzio, when i did message you?
[06:58] <Cntryboy> why would he have me do that knowing I have nvidia not ati
[06:58] <Cntryboy> a;sldkfj
[06:58] <edarague>  Soy novato en Linux... alguien sabe que combinacion de teclado pone tildes?
[06:59] <Cntryboy> radiohead told me what to do
[06:59] <krazykit> edarague: #ubuntu-es
[06:59] <Cntryboy> ask him he's in here
[06:59] <Amaranth> !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:59] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, its a PIII500Mhz 128MB and 6.06 runs "just fine" but dragging starts when i run progams and the swapping begins
[06:59] <Amaranth> ouch, yeah
[06:59] <NthDegree> lmfao
[06:59] <krazykit> Cntryboy: perhaps he didn't know what he's doing?
[06:59] <Cntryboy> radiohead
[06:59] <Cntryboy> u here
[06:59] <Amaranth> the default desktop (before opening apps) uses 96MB
[06:59] <efox> anyone have any good theme sites ?
[06:59] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, it took me a while to get it online too, so i wanna use it as an irc box till i max out the ram and use it as a music streaming radio of some sort.
[06:59] <NthDegree> ask krazykit for help, whenever he/she/it is here :p
[06:59] <Sivik> efox: what gui
[07:00] <krazykit> what about me?
[07:00] <protok0l> hey all
[07:00] <efox> gnome
[07:00] <Sivik> !themes
[07:00] <krazykit> edarague: gnome-look.org
[07:00] <dsas> efox: art.gnome.org
[07:00] <robert_> what would the package name for gd be?
[07:00] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, did you get x back
[07:00] <Cntryboy> i haven't rebooted yet
[07:00] <noiesmo> k
[07:00] <Cntryboy> if u can get radiohead attention he can tell u what he told me to do
[07:00] <Sivik> !tell efox about themes
[07:00] <edarague> thanks
[07:00] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, but that helps a lot ill see how that runs man thanx
[07:00] <Sivik> efox: read the pm from ubotu
[07:01] <efox> dsas:  thanks, ill give that one a try
[07:01] <efox> Sivik: lol, thanks
[07:01] <Cntryboy> radiohead wake uppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:01] <krazykit> NthDegree: and i'm a he, by the way :-P
[07:01] <Sivik> efox: yw
[07:01] <rupert> i'm having trouble modprobe-ing ndiswrapper. syslog says that 1.8 doesn't match driver version 1.7, and i have no idea what that means.
[07:01] <NthDegree> :P I always choose the safe option (he/she/it)
[07:01] <MrBrizzio> Sivik, you said Sir_Brizz :)
[07:01] <Sivik> MrBrizzio, sorry
[07:01] <krazykit> NthDegree: lol girls aren't on the internet >_>
[07:01] <Sivik> anyone here have e17?
[07:02] <krazykit> Sivik: yes...
[07:02] <robert_> wait, what does 'restricted' mean to apt-get?
[07:02] <Cntryboy> i wonder if he had me do that on purpose to get me to quit asking questions
[07:02] <Sivik> krazykit, how do i edit my xdm to get e17 to run when i'm loging in
[07:02] <NthDegree> krazykit, with channels like #ubuntu-women and #debian-women they are
[07:02] <Cntryboy> ive been working non stop configuring this hard stuff
[07:02] <Cntryboy> now its all for nothing
[07:02] <Sivik> Cntryboy, what is your problem now?
[07:02] <krazykit> NthDegree: i know, it's an internet joke ;-)
[07:02] <Cntryboy> get radiohead and he can tell u what he had me do
[07:03] <Cntryboy> so u all know what im talking about better
[07:03] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: From a clean install getting nvidia working is easy. You just install nvidia-glx(-legacy) and run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:03] <NthDegree> radiohead get your fat a$$ out of bed NOW!!!
[07:03] <Cntryboy> thats not all ive done amaranth
[07:03] <Sivik> why would anyone want to use glx with nvidia
[07:03] <Sivik> nvm
[07:03] <Sivik> i'm not reading right
[07:03] <protok0l> hello all
[07:03] <Cntryboy> most the commands i have wrote down is on desktop from clean install ill lose everything
[07:03] <protok0l> how can i reset my saved desktop sessions
[07:04] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: To get back to a clean state so you can do that run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:04] <protok0l> it seems to be stuck
[07:04] <radiohead> NthDegree: huh?
[07:04] <Sivik> krazykit, i installed e17, but i can't figure out how to get it from my login manager
[07:04] <Cntryboy> I thought ya'll said do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:04] <dsas> protok0l: System -> preferences -> sessions
[07:04] <krazykit> Sivik: you need to add a .desktop file.  lemme pastebin it for you
[07:04] <Sivik> thanks
[07:04] <NthDegree> Cntryboy has some complaining to do @ you radiohead
[07:04] <Sivik> Cntryboy, no
[07:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, sorta
[07:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, why are you trying to redo it anyways?
[07:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, i though you had it fixed
[07:05] <Cntryboy> not yet I haven't
[07:05] <Cntryboy> im still in live cd
[07:05] <Cntryboy> radiohead why did you have me do what u did, u screwed up my X
[07:05] <radiohead> heh, I todl him to sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, but his conf was messed up, so he applied teh md5 to the conf file and restarted
[07:05] <Cntryboy> tell them so they know what you had me do
[07:06] <radiohead> Cntryboy: that's what I did and it worked fine
[07:06] <keleus> well, I asked in irc.gnome.org:#abiword but no response yet, so here goes:
[07:06] <Cntryboy> well after I restarted x it said something error something about gdm
[07:06] <Cntryboy> and I was left in prompt
[07:06] <krazykit> Sivik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15850
[07:06] <Cntryboy> or terminal rather
[07:06] <radiohead> sorry, i told you what worked for me
[07:06] <keleus> does anyone know how to set abiword's settings on font antialiasing? its using subpixel smoothing (undesirable in my case) and i would rather it use vanilla AA with full hinting.
[07:06] <Cntryboy> so to get back to x I type in this
[07:07] <radiohead> startx
[07:07] <krazykit> radiohead: WHAT?  you don't "apply" md5 files.
[07:07] <keleus> no other programs are misbehaving (all are honoring my XFCE settings it appears)
[07:07] <Cntryboy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:07] <Sivik> krazykit, i will try that, thanks
[07:07] <Cntryboy> right?
[07:07] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[07:07] <noiesmo> yes
[07:07] <radiohead> krazykit: no, the x config files .md5sum
[07:07] <Cntryboy> then to get my nvidia working again
[07:07] <Cntryboy> i type
[07:07] <krazykit> radiohead: if you edit the x config file, the md5 will no longer match.
[07:07] <radiohead> krazykit: yeah
[07:07] <radiohead> I know
[07:07] <radiohead> :-/
[07:07] <Cntryboy> install nvidia-glx
[07:07] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:08] <Cntryboy> radiohead it changed my card to ati radon
[07:08] <Cntryboy> im guessing thats why it won't let me start X
[07:08] <Cntryboy> brb
[07:09] <rupert> if i install ndiswrapper-utils from apt (1.8), why does ndiswrapper -v show utils version: 1.7? how can i fix this?
[07:09] <krazykit> IcemanV9: maybe they're missing a css file or something...
[07:10] <hatake_kakashi> is it possible to install ubuntu via grub booting the iso?
[07:11] <krazykit> hatake_kakashi: don't think so.
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> krazykit: hmm :/ thanks, I don't happen to have a spare cd handy heh, though I have the images on another hard disk, I was thinking there might be a possibility, if possible, it would probably save me from having to get blank cds to do so
[07:12] <IcemanV9> krazykit: must be a new hire who just grad recently. *sigh*
[07:12] <LoneShadow> is there a graphics software called XGN/Compiz ?
[07:12] <krazykit> LoneShadow: nope.  it's xgl/compiz
[07:12] <LoneShadow> aah
[07:12] <LoneShadow> thanks :D
[07:12] <krazykit> hatake_kakashi: nah, better run out and get some CDs, or bum one off of somebody.
[07:12] <keleus> nobody has any help for my abiword issue? (i did search through their bugzilla with no results)
[07:13] <IcemanV9> does anyone got hotkeys working on hp ze5185 keyboard?? mine (tv-out, lock, help & mute) does not work.
[07:13] <keleus> so i think its a lack of knowledge on my part
[07:13] <hatake_kakashi> krazykit: heh bah, that's what I would have thought :<
[07:13] <hatake_kakashi> ahh well thanks for the input
[07:13] <keleus> IcemanV9, ive got an hp laptop and about 3/4 of the extra keys don't actually send keycodes through the normal channel
[07:14] <keleus> IcemanV9, read: proprietary keyboard interface i bet
[07:14] <krazykit> keleus and IcemanV9, if the keys get picked up by xev, you can give them keysyms and assign actions to them
[07:14] <CaptainMorgan> is there any bugs with Firefox and Kde? I keep trying to install macromedia flash player and it always says sucessful install.. yet it alerts me right away that it's not installed.. essentially it's playing a game with me...
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> revolving
[07:15] <IcemanV9> keleus: i've tried xev, other methods that forum suggested - nothing worked! :/
[07:15] <keleus> krazykit, thanks, thats a handy program, but again about 3/4 of my buttons dont send anything that the system appears to "see"
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> ever since the large update a few days ago, which included kernel updates, grub shows four ubuntu startup options (two duplicate sets of two)...what would i need to do to get rid of the second set?
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> IcemanV9: xmodmap -pke and look for corresponding makps
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> Geoffrey2: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> Geoffrey2: mind does too.. wtf?
[07:16] <Sivik> krazykit, ok, i added that to the /usr/share/xsessions folder, but it didn't come up as an option
[07:16] <krazykit> keleus: doesn't pick it up at all?  i recall seeing some perl script that digs in deep to get some keys working, lemme find it
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> which set DO you get rid of?
[07:16] <keleus> IcemanV9, you could always ask support.hp.com - they've been very helpful for me before (just ask them if details are available, maybe say you want to write a program for something that would need the keys)
[07:16] <wshan> when I try to install ubuntu I get errors on the cd..but I ran md5sum and it checked out...is it just not burning correctly?
[07:16] <krazykit> Sivik: well, i use gdm, maybe xdm sticks them elsewhere?
[07:16] <wshan> it is the alternate iso
[07:17] <LoneShadow> does XGL/Compiz install on breezy ?
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> hatake_kakashi: does it matter which to get riid of?
[07:17] <[nige] > how do I install a gpg key for apt-get?
[07:17] <IcemanV9> keleus: really? they're helpful? interesting. ok.
[07:17] <Sivik> krazykit, i'm actually using wdm
[07:17] <Geoffrey2> all I could figure is that is was offering a way to go back to the earlier kernel if something significant broke with the update....
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> CaptainMorgan: yes, unless if you are completely sure that you know which ones you don't need, because if you comment them out, it would not appear on the list the next time you boot, or any other time until you set it back to where it was
[07:17] <krazykit> keleus and IcemanV9, perhaps this would be worth checking out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys#Getting_bizzare_keyboards_working
[07:18] <keleus> IcemanV9, well, i moaned about not having the latest bios flash available on the windows flasher (only the floppy boot one.... on a laptop with no floppy drive!) and they had it up within a week
[07:18] <krazykit> Sivik: then... i dunno.  check the wdm documentation oh how to add a new entry.
[07:18] <Sivik> ok
[07:18] <IcemanV9> CaptainMorgan: xmodmap; thanks.
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> Geoffrey2: generally, kernel updates results in having 2 more extra entries into the bootloader, it is incase soemthing goes wrong with the new kernel, etc
[07:18] <lonegeek> anybody else have problems encoding videos with pcm audio in avidemux2?
[07:18] <sam__> heheh
[07:19] <IcemanV9> keleus: they haven't update bios flash in 2.5+ yrs!
[07:19] <sam__> compiz rox 8)
[07:19] <foogle> hello all     how do I set the current time from the command line?
[07:19] <sam__> foogle: look at date -s
[07:19] <foogle> ahh yes
[07:19] <CaptainMorgan> hatake_kakashi: which is the latest kernel?
[07:19] <CaptainMorgan> !kernel
[07:19] <IcemanV9> krazykit: checking the site atm
[07:20] <sam__> it takes a date format
[07:20] <Cntryboy> okay im back in X, now how can I reconfigure my nvidia?
[07:20] <Cntryboy> thx btw to all who got me back to X
[07:20] <CaptainMorgan> 2.6.15-25?
[07:20] <Sivik> krazykit, how do i make it use the gdm
[07:20] <sam__> foogle: but normally the best way is to use rdated or ntpdate!
[07:20] <|_ocke> sudo glx-config enable
[07:20] <krazykit> Sivik: dunno, sorry.
[07:20] <IcemanV9> 2.6.15-25-686
[07:20] <Cntryboy> when I go to play UT now it says, cd@cd-desktop:~/ut$ ./ut
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Aborting.
[07:20] <Fracture> can I configure where the gnome cd writer writes the image file it creates ?
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> CaptainMorgan: dunno, I haven't updated mine in awhile, I'm going for full reinstall soon
[07:20] <keleus> krazykit, thanks. ill check that out later though (dont have the energy for it now. (late)
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know what the latest kernel? 2.6.15-25 or 2.6.15-23?
[07:21] <krazykit> anyway, i'm off to bed.
[07:21] <Sivik> CaptainMorgan, 25
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> the first one CaptainMorgan
[07:21] <keleus> IcemanV9, well, my laptop is a 2003/4 model i think (ze5740us)
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[07:21] <keleus> IcemanV9, and i DID need the flash
[07:21] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[07:21] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, please give me output of uname -r
[07:22] <keleus> Cntryboy, make sure glx is on the list of modules to load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:22] <Cntryboy> 2.6.15-23-386
[07:22] <Cntryboy> it was working fine
[07:22] <Sivik> how do i get a newer kernel via sudo apt-get
[07:22] <Cntryboy> but not sure if u seen what my problem was
[07:23] <SurfnKid> back to windows bah
[07:23] <keleus> Sivik, heh, i compile them myself :)
[07:23] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok type this it will install need stuff for nvidia if you have it it wont install anything sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:23] <Sivik> keleus, thats not fun
[07:23] <Sivik> krazykat: how do i get the newer kernel via apt-get
[07:23] <Cntryboy> type this whole line?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:23] <noiesmo> yep
[07:23] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[07:23] <keleus> Sivik, not if you know how to do it, and exactly what is in your machine. Definatly speeds things up in my case (and frees up some memory too :) )
[07:23] <Cntryboy> ok
[07:24] <IcemanV9> keleus: i just checked hp support site for flash .. they haven't done anything for 4 yrs. :/
[07:24] <keleus> Cntryboy, what processor you have?
[07:24] <Sivik> kelsus: but when i try to do it, it screws up
[07:24] <witless> is it possible to access a samba share on a private network over an ssh connection to a machine on that network?
[07:24] <Cntryboy> it's redownloading
[07:24] <keleus> IcemanV9, hold on a second...
[07:24] <Samus_Aran> does Ubuntu use /etc/security/limits.conf ?  I put my settings in there, but there seems to be no PAM system in place.  my user has "unlimited" when running "ulimit"
[07:24] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok let me know when done
[07:24] <Cntryboy> so does that mean when radiohead had me do that, it deleted my nvidia drivers?
[07:24] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, no comment
[07:25] <P229> anyone use wifi-radar? what goes in for "WAP Driver"?
[07:25] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[07:25] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, they may have been updated
[07:25] <Samus_Aran> I am using my custom limits.conf config that I built on my previous distro, but it seems that it is being ignored altogether
[07:25] <Cntryboy> everything was working fine
[07:25] <keleus> Sivik, well, you need "binutils" and "build-essential" - then you need to install the dev library of ncurses to use "make menuconfig" - its not very forthright about needing that stuff
[07:25] <Cntryboy> i lost X, got it back
[07:25] <Cntryboy> why is my nvidia drivers gone?
[07:26] <Sivik> kelsus: i know how to do it, but whenever i try to compile it, it screws up
[07:26] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, is it finished downloading etc
[07:26] <Cntryboy> i have dialup
[07:26] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, when it is type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:26] <Cntryboy> takes me awhile
[07:26] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok
[07:26] <Cntryboy> im just wanting to know why it deleted my nvidia drivers
[07:26] <Cntryboy> k
[07:27] <keleus> IcemanV9, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=softwareCategory&os=228&product=420315&dest_page=softwareCategory&softwareitem=ob-31521-1
[07:27] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, I dont think it would have
[07:27] <rohan> in the gaim on dapper, the flashing taskbar entry in a message window doesnt stop flashing until and unless i enter something in it .. isnt it bloody irritating ?!
[07:27] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, when did you install nvidia-glx last
[07:27] <Cntryboy> well its downloading isn't it
[07:27] <keleus> IcemanV9, but for some reason the winflash of the bios version i have isn't there! (and i know i used winflash, as i have no floppy drive)
[07:27] <Cntryboy> 3 days ago
[07:27] <keleus> they might have tooken it down for some reason?
[07:27] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, I ran an update last night and it download mine again
[07:27] <Cntryboy> but like I said someone had me do some funky command, I lost X, had to get X back, and then noticed nvidia drivers are gone as u can see its redownloading them
[07:28] <Samus_Aran> keleus: you can always drop the DOS diskette for the BIOS flash utility onto a CD or DVD, using el torito
[07:28] <Samus_Aran> keleus: they behave exactly the same as a boot diskette
[07:28] <Cntryboy> dunno, all I know is it was working 30 min ago
[07:28] <keleus> Samus_Aran, well, i was a windows freak then...
[07:28] <Cntryboy> I was playing UT
[07:28] <Cntryboy> 3d accerl.
[07:28] <Cntryboy> accelerator
[07:28] <kosova> I am currently on  an intel4 with hyperthreading. should I use the smp686 kernel
[07:28] <rohan> has there been some gaim update which solves this irritatng bug ?
[07:28] <keleus> Cntryboy, you wern't playing UT as root were you? :)
[07:28] <Draconicus> XFCE would be nice right about now, but it's broken upon installation.
[07:29] <Cntryboy> oh lord
[07:29] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, well either way the drives will be the latest whats your nvidia card
[07:29] <Cntryboy> NO
[07:29] <Cntryboy> everything was workign fine
[07:29] <Cntryboy> until radiohead had me do a command to lose X
[07:29] <Cntryboy> wasn't nothing I did
[07:29] <Cntryboy> I was just following a command
[07:29] <rohan> also, after each run of the dapepr live cd, my system time is ALWAYS f*cked up, which is still more irritating .. why does ubuntu f*ck up my system time /
[07:29] <keleus> what did he have you do?
[07:29] <rupert> ndiswrapper problem: i have to remove bcm43xx in order to get ndiswrapper to function, how do i go about rm'ing it?
[07:29] <Cntryboy> I can't rememeber
[07:29] <keleus> rohan, set your system clock to UTC and be done with it :)
[07:29] <butler> how to open this file :- avg71flm-r28-a0757.i386.rpm
[07:29] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, do lspci it will be there
[07:30] <Sivik> rupert: why aren't u trying to use the bcm43xx drivers?
[07:30] <Cntryboy> I had problems with resolution with in ut he wanted me to md5sum something
[07:30] <P229> rohan: I think ubuntu sets the system clock to GMT
[07:30] <keleus> rohan, that hapens when your clock is set to localtime and a liveCD expects it as UTC
[07:30] <Cntryboy> what will be there?
[07:30] <Draconicus> rohan: Ubuntu has never been good with clocks. Go to your time and date adjustments, then install NTP by trying to enable updating from the server... etc..
[07:30] <rohan> keleus: i dont know how to :) and whether or not my bios supports it .. and, i have windows iinstalled too :S
[07:30] <Sivik> rohan: it may have an issue with your bios time
[07:30] <P229> ...or UTC
[07:30] <Draconicus> Just kidding.
[07:30] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, the type of video card
[07:30] <rohan> Draconicus, P229 : thanks ! :)
[07:30] <Draconicus> Ubuntu is great with clocks. :P
[07:30] <rupert> Sivik, Im on amd64
[07:30] <Samus_Aran> rohan: use UTC in the BIOS, set your timezone in the O/S
[07:30] <Cntryboy> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pr o]  (rev a3)
[07:30] <keleus> rohan, set your time to GMT+0 and set windows to the timezone that the prime meridian is on./
[07:30] <Cntryboy> thats all it says for that command about vidieo
[07:31] <keleus> rohan, heh
[07:31] <Sivik> rupert: ok
[07:31] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok thats fine
[07:31] <D_dog> I need to run this command at every start up "xgamme -gamme 1.5" where would i put that at please
[07:31] <Samus_Aran> rohan: and install NTP, it is great for maintaining your clock at all times (even without a net connection, it learns how much your internal clock drifts by)
[07:31] <P229> so no takers for that "WAP Driver" in wifi-radar question?
[07:31] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, has that dialup of yours finished yet
[07:31] <IcemanV9> keleus: well. at least, you got something. i am stuck with this box since they haven't done anything past 4 yrs. dangit. time to get sledgehammer out.
[07:31] <rupert> Sivik, so how do i disable bcm43xx?
[07:31] <rohan> oh, ok
[07:31] <keleus> rohan, its a windows stupidity at fault, not your Ubuntu CD. the rest of the world runs their clocks at UTC and the software translates to your timezone. In the microsoft world, the bios runs at localtime
[07:31] <Cntryboy> no 5m left
[07:31] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, k
[07:31] <Sivik> rupert: is your bcm43xx drivers not working?  what kernel?
[07:32] <keleus> rohan, the UTC is better, as networking gear can stay synchronized that way
[07:32] <Sivik> rupert: did you install the new firmware
[07:32] <keleus> IcemanV9, or a soldering iron :)
[07:32] <rohan> keleus: true, but my dad uses xp (sad) so i need to have the proper time zone :S
[07:32] <Sivik> rupert: join me in #bcm-users
[07:32] <keleus> i wish someone would patch windows! at least give us the option MS!!!
[07:32] <Cntryboy> any time xorg.conf is changed to default and something to do with md5 or md5 sum and then restart X will that delete nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <Cntryboy> it was something like that
[07:33] <Cntryboy> what he had me do, i just forgot commands
[07:33] <IcemanV9> rohan: sudo ntpdate <closest time server> e.g. sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov
[07:33] <keleus> Cntryboy, no, but it will set the driver to vga instead of nvidia
[07:33] <Cntryboy> oh shit
[07:33] <Cntryboy> sorry about the cuss
[07:33] <keleus> Cntryboy, and remove any other settings the nvidia script made to your xorg.conf
[07:34] <Cntryboy> my card is legacy
[07:34] <Cntryboy> are u having me download nvidia-glx?
[07:34] <Cntryboy> and not legacy
[07:34] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:34] <keleus> doesnt matter
[07:34] <keleus> i had a geforce2 MX
[07:34] <Cntryboy> so do I have to download nvidia again keleus?
[07:34] <Lorri> What's a good fixed font
[07:34] <keleus> and the nvidia-glx worked fine
[07:34] <rohan> IcemanV9: ubuntu gui for the same is nice ;)
[07:34] <rohan> so the only annoying problem left is gaim :S
[07:34] <keleus> Cntryboy, yea. but i would save it somewhere (or use the installer direct from nvidia and not from the repositories)
[07:34] <Cntryboy> so should I cancel this download and just type sudo apt-install get nvidia-glx-legacy?
[07:35] <keleus> no
[07:35] <keleus> nvidia legacy is for the TNTs i believe
[07:35] <hatake_kakashi> keleus:
[07:35] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: no
[07:35] <Cntryboy> I had legacy install at first
[07:35] <Sivik> Cntryboy, doing use the get
[07:35] <Cntryboy> i have an old geforce 2 gts pro
[07:35] <rohan> !nvidia
[07:35] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:35] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, i had a geforce2 MX. thats LESS than the GTS Pro he has
[07:35] <Cntryboy> im there rohan
[07:35] <keleus> and i used to play Americas Army with it
[07:35] <Cntryboy> thats why im asking
[07:36] <keleus> the normal drivers WORKED
[07:36] <Cntryboy> i have a legacy card
[07:36] <Cntryboy> im downloading glx i think
[07:36] <keleus> :/
[07:36] <Cntryboy> no one listens to me
[07:36] <keleus> what do you mean by legacy?
[07:36] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: Geforce2 MX/MX 400 requires legacy :p
[07:36] <Cntryboy> lol
[07:36] <efox> i set up linux with a 10GB allocation from my 60GB harddrive. If i want to add more space to it, i can have the ability to correct..i mean..i wont have to reinstall everything. I can mount a new partition for my /root and such ?
[07:36] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, then explain how it used to work?
[07:36] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, less than 8 months ago? (at which point i lost the machien for various reasons)
[07:36] <Cntryboy> noisemo is having me do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:36] <disinterested_pe> any one know how to get a webcam working?
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: I tried the normal glx and it failed to boot x properly, when I switched to legacy it worked
[07:37] <Cntryboy> but if I need legacy drivers will this screw me up?
[07:37] <witless> efox: yes
[07:37] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, did nvidia fork the drivers?
[07:37] <sam1001> yo
[07:37] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, you never said what card you had im no mind reader i told you how to find it dam you
[07:37] <sam1001> sup
[07:37] <Cntryboy> i didn't say u were
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: beats me, it was when I had to get the propriatory drivers, I had to make sure that I get the right one or x goes ballistic
[07:37] <Cntryboy> all im asking is should I quit this dl?
[07:37] <Cntryboy> well too late
[07:38] <keleus> noiesmo, 01:30:51 <Cntryboy> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pr o]  (rev a3)
[07:38] <Cntryboy> its done and it said its removing my legacy
[07:38] <Sivik> i'm looking for someone that uses e17
[07:38] <witless> efox: why would you need a big /root partition?  you're not using root as your working account are you?  :-)
[07:38] <noiesmo> keleus, this was after i gave him command i told him how to get hte info
[07:38] <keleus> Cntryboy, if it fails, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver statement to "nv" and it will at least boot
[07:38] <sam1001> emachine?
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: the nvidia site has a list of which cards needs to get legacy drivers
[07:38] <IcemanV9> disinterested_pe: apt-cache search webcam will give you plenty to choose :)
[07:38] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, they probably forked it...
[07:39] <keleus> do they have a legacy driver pack for windows now? when i was using them all the GeForceFXs were the same download as my GeForce2
[07:39] <Cntryboy> so now type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:39] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:39] <keleus> Cntryboy, no, you need legacty
[07:39] <Cntryboy> and if it fails go and change it to nv
[07:39] <Cntryboy> i know I do
[07:39] <n30n> how do i create a conpressed folder
[07:39] <Cntryboy> but its already downloaded
[07:39] <keleus> things have apparently changed since i last used it :/
[07:39] <Cntryboy> okay how do I delete what was just unpacked?
[07:39] <Cntryboy> so I can download legacy
[07:39] <keleus> n30n, hey! whats up
[07:39] <xps> i must say, i love kubuntu now that i've converted over =)
[07:39] <keleus> xps, xubuntu here
[07:39] <Sivik> xps: good for you
[07:40] <Samus_Aran> nvidia-legacy is just an older version, if you don't like the current one, or if it is buggy.  they only dropped support for tnt cards with the current release
[07:40] <keleus> Sivik, was that needed?
[07:40] <witless> me no likee kde
[07:40] <Samus_Aran> but some people have a more stable time with the older driver
[07:40] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[07:40] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: beats me, when I grabbed the drivers, I saw for linux, there was two parts on nvidia, one is the legacy and the other, not
[07:40] <keleus> witless, i love KDE but this system is too lightweight for it
[07:40] <Sivik> keleus: i just said good for you, didn't mean for it to be mean or anything
[07:40] <Cntryboy> keleus how do I delete what was just downloaded?
[07:40] <n30n> keleus whats goin on.
[07:40] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, ah! thats definatly new to me
[07:40] <Cntryboy> so I can apt for legacy
[07:40] <keleus> Cntryboy, "rm filename"
[07:40] <xps> i'm a linux newbie. i haven't tried anything but kde... yet so far, i like it
[07:40] <n30n> keelus: go check out the update at neonbox
[07:40] <Cntryboy> not sure the file name
[07:41] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:41] <keleus> xps, the most configurable. gnome has almost no options (waay to "user friendly")
[07:41] <Cntryboy> that was command I put in
[07:41] <disinterested_pe> thanks iceman
[07:41] <keleus> xps, and XFCE (what xubuntu uses) is very lightweight
[07:41] <noiesmo> aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:41] <keleus> n30n, you get my messages?
[07:41] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: After that run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:41] <Cntryboy> amaranth I have a legacy card though
[07:41] <n30n>  keleus: yes. good work. your a saint
[07:41] <keleus> thanks :)
[07:41] <Cntryboy> I need to delete what was just downloaded
[07:41] <xps> keleus: i hear you. i have a pretty recent machine which can handle the gui... i figured i'd like a distro that will allow me to explore once i start getting the hang of things
[07:41] <Cntryboy> and apt for legacy drivers
[07:41] <Draconicus> I feel like I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic. Give the small talk about WMs a break and give me a little attention? Just a little?
[07:42] <keleus> n30n, i know how to remove all those messages to - apparently the board is in debug mode
[07:42] <Sivik> Draconicus, whatca need
[07:42] <Draconicus> Sivik: Scroll up a little.
[07:42] <mikedep333> hey, on both my systems that dual-boot between ubuntu and winXP, whenever I chose windows from grub, it automatically boots to windows XP, I think it makes it the active partition. How do I boot to windows while preserving grub?
[07:42] <Cntryboy> so how can I delete what was just downloaded for the glx?
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> different users, different tastes :P
[07:42] <Sivik> Draconicus, not sure
[07:42] <n30n> keleus: everything you did was for the best
[07:42] <Samus_Aran> so does anyone have any clue how to make an Ubuntu 6.06 system use /etc/security/limits.conf ?
[07:43] <witless> Cntryboy: how were you downloading it?
[07:43] <Cntryboy> i typed in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:43] <n30n> keleus: it WAS in debug
[07:43] <Cntryboy> but I noticed after it downloaded I have a legacy card
[07:43] <keleus> n30n, ah, i see :)
[07:43] <n30n> keleus: i left it in debug over night by accident
[07:43] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, if you just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy like you so badly want to it will remove the previous one
[07:43] <keleus> n30n, first time with mod status too... im learning as I go :)
[07:43] <n30n> Keleus: my power went out when i was debugging
[07:43] <redblades> Hi, I'm having trouble ripping mp3's. playing avi's (with sound).
[07:43] <Draconicus> mikedep333: Whoa.. what? Are you trying to boot Linux and Windows at the same time or something?
[07:43] <Cntryboy> so I need to get rid of that so I can apt-get install the legacy
[07:43] <redblades> Could somebody help?
[07:43] <keleus> n30n, how do you like my downloads?
[07:43] <noiesmo> apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[07:43] <n30n> keleus: alot. your a admin now
[07:43] <efox> witless: yes..i am :(
[07:43] <Cntryboy> okay thx noiesmo thats all I needed to know
[07:43] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[07:43] <witless> efox: why??
[07:43] <mikedep333> Draconicus: Yes, I would like to have a menu to chose between them every time I boot up.
[07:44] <n30n> keleus: how do i move files to a copressed document
[07:44] <mikedep333> like mandriva or suse does
[07:44] <keleus> n30n, and a quick question: can i use sftp rather than vanilla ftp? i use wireless, and some silly people could sniff the credentials of normal FTP
[07:44] <keleus> n30n, depends on what format you want...
[07:44] <keleus> n30n, tar.bz2?
[07:44] <n30n> keleus: if you want/
[07:44] <Draconicus> mikedep333: You can't boot both at the same time. It's not possible.
[07:44] <efox> witless: cuz i wasnt too sure on what should be what...i set 128mb for boot (which is think is crazy high) 700mb for swap and the rest root
[07:44] <n30n> keleus: thats fine
[07:44] <disinterested_pe> this friggin webcam is for an xp machine does that mean i cant get it to work on linux?
[07:44] <efox> would you have a better partitioning scheme ?
[07:44] <mikedep333> draconicus: I'm not talking about running both OSes at the same time.
[07:44] <Samus_Aran> disinterested_pe: some are supported, some are not
[07:45] <mikedep333> I'm talking about having a boot menu every time I boot up.
[07:45] <robert_> what would the package name for gd be?
[07:45] <hatake_kakashi> disinterested_pe: not really, it really depends on brand, etc
[07:45] <keleus> n30n, not sure how to use teh GUI ones (when i make something it always has the full path
[07:45] <witless> efox: oh, you mean root as in / , not root as in root-user
[07:45] <mikedep333> right now it seems to be making the windows partition active, so I never have that choice
[07:45] <efox> witless: yes  '/'
[07:45] <disinterested_pe> its a ge easy cam
[07:45] <witless> efox: ok, nevermind  :-)
[07:45] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy
[07:45] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:45] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:45] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-legacy
[07:45] <Draconicus> disinterested_pe: Not at all. Most cams are supported under the spca5xx driver, I've found. Yours probably is. There's a chance it might not be. Nothing is ever designed for any OS. Just the software.
[07:45] <efox> was my partitioning correct then ?
[07:45] <paxl> Can somone help me, Ubuntu latest version support Xgl ?
[07:45] <Cntryboy> god don't tell me I have to go through that repos crap again
[07:45] <n30n> keleus: get on aim?
[07:45] <keleus> n30n, tar can do .tar .tar.gz and .tar.bz2
[07:45] <keleus> sure
[07:46] <witless> efox: if you start running out of space, and you have more partitions, you can move stuff from e.g. /home to the new partition and then mount the new partition at the /home location
[07:46] <disinterested_pe> this one uses the ov 511 driver
[07:46] <paxl> keleus: is is easy to install as apt-get install xgl and so on ?
[07:46] <robert_> can I search for .deb packages?
[07:46] <hatake_kakashi> tar is just tape archive, typically uncompressed. tar.gz is tar that has been gzipped and bz2 is bzipped
[07:47] <Cntryboy> noiesmo did u see the error I got for sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy?
[07:47] <disinterested_pe> but i installed it from synaptic and nothing
[07:47] <Draconicus> robert_: Check out Synaptic Package Manager. :)
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: from where?
[07:47] <Cntryboy> does that mean I have to go through repos again?
[07:47] <witless> robert_: you mean aside from apt-cache search?
[07:47] <Cntryboy> man im tired
[07:47] <robert_> hatake_kakashi: from apt
[07:47] <Draconicus> Cntryboy: Yeah... You've been here for a good portion of the day, haven't you?
[07:47] <witless> Cntryboy: i believe it's nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:47] <robert_> witless: can apt-cache search online repos?
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: from repo? read what witless said or Draconicus
[07:47] <efox> witless: cool...well i have 6.5gb now, and i may want more in the comin weeks..
[07:47] <Cntryboy> I get this error though
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy
[07:48] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:48] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:48] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-legacy
[07:48] <robert_> ah ko
[07:48] <robert_> ok*
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: no its only whats cached
[07:48] <Cntryboy> yes witless, because I listen to ppl who give me wrong info lol
[07:48] <Sivik> Cntryboy, do a apt-cache search nvidia-legacy to determine the correct name for it
[07:48] <witless> robert_: yes -  apt-cache search <whatever>
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cause more problems, then I have to redo things to get back to where I was at
[07:48] <efox> what do i change in the grub menu.lst so that xp would be the primary OS ?
[07:48] <IcemanV9> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source
[07:48] <Draconicus> robert_: Would you like to know how to get the most out of the repositories?
[07:48] <Sivik> efox: you but default
[07:48] <Draconicus> robert_: It will require a PM.
[07:48] <witless> Cntryboy: i believe there is a web page on the wiki for getting nvidia to work on 6.06
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$ apt-cache search nvidia-legacy
[07:48] <Cntryboy> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module source
[07:48] <robert_> Draconicus: indeed
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: when you do apt-get update, it gets the lists of files, and versions, adds them to the cache so you can browse quicker
[07:48] <IcemanV9> apt-cache search is your best friend
[07:49] <Cntryboy> yes but I dont understand it
[07:49] <robert_> ah ok
[07:49] <Sivik> Cntryboy, don't understand what part of it
[07:49] <Cntryboy> i did my repos from command term.
[07:49] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, well I see it but dont know if i want to help you anymore as i suggestedwhat to do and then you go and want to do something else if you just did what i suggested and it didnt work you would have been no worse off
[07:49] <paxl> Where can I get the package list of Ubuntu 6.06 TLS ?
[07:49] <Sivik> paxl: did you check the ubuntu website?
[07:49] <witless> efox: there is a setting in menu.lst called "default"  - set that to the OS you want to boot (first in list is 0, then 1, then 2, etc)
[07:49] <Cntryboy> noiesmo, but someone msg me and said if I have legacy ill lose X again
[07:49] <Cntryboy> if I do what u said
[07:49] <redblades> Hello???????
[07:49] <paxl> Sivik: do you have any other question like this.. Yeah.
[07:50] <Cntryboy> i just figured since my card needs legacy drivers thats what I needed
[07:50] <redblades> Did anyone see what i said?
[07:50] <Cntryboy> if what u said will work and work fine ill do it
[07:50] <Sivik> paxl: no, but thats the first place i would check if i couldn't find it, or try googling ubuntu dapper program list
[07:50] <Cntryboy> im not tring to be mean by no means, im just tired, fustrated with linux
[07:50] <Ademan> anyone here know a possible reason why i can't connect to my ftp server when i've set it up so that ports 20 and 21 are forwarded (through my router) to my server, as well as 44000 - 44128, and vsftpd has that range set as the pasv_min and pasv_max ports
[07:50] <IcemanV9> redblades: did you said something?? ;)
[07:50] <Cntryboy> noiesmo can I msg u please
[07:50] <Cntryboy> scroll here confuses me
[07:51] <paxl> Sivik: my question is I'm searching if installing it over my current debian would make me possible to get Xgl simply...
[07:51] <noiesmo> yes
[07:51] <Sivik> paxl: check www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:51] <Sivik> paxl: what kind of card?
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> !nvidia
[07:51] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:51] <redblades> IcemanV9: yeah, I'm having issues with playing mp3s/avis
[07:51] <witless> Cntryboy: have you looked at this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:51] <polpak> !tell redblades about restricted
[07:51] <Cntryboy> yes witless
[07:51] <paxl> Sivik: Radeon M9, Xgl works with the Opensource driver [ I tried it into Kororaa and it works like a charm ]
[07:52] <Sivik> paxl: not sure, i don't have ati, cause i don't like ati
[07:53] <Sivik> paxl: sorry i can't help more
[07:53] <protocol2> how can I see if my video drivers are working properly?
[07:53] <paxl> Sivik: It's on a laptop computer.. but if the Xgl package is in the tree I think I"ll try it.
[07:53] <efox> witless: i dont see that 'default' option
[07:53] <Lorri> What's a good fixed font
[07:53] <Lorri> fixed width*
[07:53] <witless> efox: what option?
[07:53] <Sivik> paxl: try googling it
[07:53] <witless> efox: oh right
[07:53] <witless> wait
[07:53] <paxl> can I install other window manager than gnome on Ubunut ?
[07:53] <efox> witless:  efox: there is a setting in menu.lst called "default"
[07:53] <polpak> protocol2: if you want to know if you have hardware accelleration you can type glxinfo | grep direct
[07:53] <polpak> paxl: yes
[07:54] <witless> efox: yes, there is - in my copy of menu.lst, it's the first option.
[07:54] <witless> mine says "default    0"
[07:54] <rob138> i just uninstalled vmware server, but from the looks of my harddrive space, it left my virtual machines, where do i go to remove these files?
[07:54] <witless> rob138: i think there is a .vmware directory in your home drive
[07:54] <efox> witless: oh i c it now...   default num
[07:55] <rob138> witless, there is but, it's only preferences in there
[07:55] <protocol2> polpak, there no direct rendering
[07:55] <protocol2> you know how I can go about fixing that.....easyubuntu maybe?
[07:55] <Geoffrey2> oh, in the menu.lst file, a # comments things out?  or do I need a ##?
[07:55] <polpak> protocol2: what video card do you have?
[07:55] <efox> witless: so if i have 4 entries in my grub, and i want my last entry (windows xp) to be the primary, i set that num to..3 or 4 ?
[07:55] <witless> efox: 3
[07:55] <mikedep333> I figured out my problem, makeactive was of course, making the windows partition active, bypassing grub in the future
[07:55] <efox> sweet !
[07:56] <polpak> Geoffrey2: one # is sufficient
[07:56] <protocol2> its an nvidia tnt2
[07:56] <witless> efox: give it a shot
[07:56] <efox> im about too
[07:56] <hyphenated> efox: I moved the windows XP entry to be above the automagically generated list, so it's always at the same place
[07:56] <polpak> protocol2: ah.. well then you can only use the open source drivers I think
[07:56] <protocol2> so theres no possible way I can get acceleration
[07:56] <protocol2> ?
[07:56] <witless> rob138: is there a vmware directory (without leading dot)?
[07:56] <Sivik> protocol2, what kind of card?
[07:57] <rob138> witless, nope, but i think i found them in /var/lib/vmware
[07:57] <polpak> Sivik: it's a tnt 2
[07:57] <witless> ok
[07:57] <protocol2> nvidia tnt2 I trhink
[07:57] <protocol2> think*
[07:57] <Sivik> protocol2, did you try searching the ubuntu forums?
[07:57] <witless> i put mine on their own partition, so i don't recall where the default is.
[07:58] <rob138> witless, problem solved, + 20 gigs of space back :)
[07:58] <witless> cool
[07:58] <rohan> !md5sum
[07:58] <ubotu> md5sum is, like, totally, to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:59] <rohan> grrr grr .. can someone please paste the dappe drake 6.06 gnome desktop cd md5sum ? :)
[07:59] <spikeb> yeah let me see if i can find it
[07:59] <rohan> thanks a lot, spikeb
[07:59] <hatake_kakashi> rohan: which one?
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e *ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[08:00] <rohan> no, the desktop cd please :)
[08:01] <polpak> protocol2: follow the wiki  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  Your card is on the legacy list, so you should be able to install the legacy driver
[08:01] <hatake_kakashi> e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:01] <witless> e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:01] <spikeb> i can't find it.
[08:01] <rohan> thanks a lot, hatake_kakashi
[08:01] <vic> hello, I cant extract anything from an archive
[08:01] <rohan> i have a nice burn in that case :))
[08:01] <polpak> vic: what kind of archive?
[08:02] <vic> .tar.gz
[08:02] <afflux> morgen gemeinde...
[08:02] <vic> its for open office
[08:02] <witless> tar -zxvf <filename>
[08:02] <vic> thanks
[08:02] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[08:02] <hatake_kakashi> rohan: np
[08:03] <ubuntu> damn this pisses me off,
[08:03] <witless> could you be more specific?
[08:03] <ompaul> ubuntu please take it easy with the language we are aiming at a G rating cheers
[08:03] <rohan> ompaul: :D
[08:03] <rohan> ubuntu: you were the first ubuntu to register the nick name ubuntu ?
[08:04] <witless> darn this really burns my biscuits!
[08:04] <ubuntu> yes
[08:04] <BrunoTorres> hi everybody
[08:05] <witless> hello
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> I just downloaded and burned an ubuntu desktop i386 iso, and it seems to be a live cs...is it?
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> *live cd
[08:05] <witless> yes, but you can install off it too
[08:05] <hatake_kakashi> BrunoTorres: yes
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> how?
[08:05] <witless> there's an icon on the livecd desktop
[08:05] <polpak> BrunoTorres: there should be an install icon on the desktop
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> isn't there the good old installation process?
[08:05] <polpak> BrunoTorres: that's the alternate install cd
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> oh, damn
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> hehe
[08:06] <polpak> BrunoTorres: which you may want to use (particuarly if you're going to be editing your partitions, as the partition editor on the live CD kept locking up on me)
[08:07] <noodz> polpak: the live-cd uses gparted .1 which is known to have many bugs, most of which have to do with ntfs handling
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> i used to use debian, 1 year ago or more
[08:07] <noodz> .2 is much better
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> and I just don't buy this live cd thing..
[08:07] <polpak> noodz: I don't have any ntfs partitions.. all linux ext3 partitions on here
[08:07] <noodz> hm, well i dont know why then ;-)
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> I don't understand why the simplified things are so difficult to me, always
[08:07] <polpak> BrunoTorres: it's a good idea in principle.. would be nice if it worked better though
[08:08] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the screensaver on the live cd would also lock up on me a lot
[08:08] <redblades> Hi, what is the default sources.list for dapper?
[08:08] <polpak> BrunoTorres: as did the screensaver once I got dapper installed
[08:08] <BrunoTorres> so, live cd is really bad?
[08:08] <noodz> BrunoTorres, you're making a big deal about it... if you click on the install icon, it will open the OS installation program and you will be on your way.  not everything has to be difficult just because its linux
[08:08] <polpak> !repositories
[08:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:08] <redblades> If anyone knows, I would greatly appreciate it
[08:09] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, did it work
[08:09] <redblades> polpak:
[08:09] <Cntryboy> no i lost X
[08:09] <Cntryboy> again
[08:09] <redblades> THANKYOU
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> noodz: yeah, i agree...but the difficult things must keep available, methinks
[08:09] <polpak> BrunoTorres: well I had a bad experience with it.. but yours may be different
[08:09] <Cntryboy> had to type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <witless> and that didn't bring back X?
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> well, so, I can install using the live cd...i'll give it a try
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> just a last question
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> may I have a root user using it?
[08:10] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, sorry about that
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> or i'll have to sudo everything?
[08:10] <Cntryboy> np
[08:10] <mooseman447> hey
[08:10] <Cntryboy> go to pm noiesmo
[08:10] <witless> you can have a root user
[08:10] <noodz> it defaults to sudo only
[08:10] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the installation process doesn't require you to sudo
[08:10] <noodz> but there is a guide in the wiki to enabling the root user
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> because i once installed a ubuntu 5 and it had an 'expert' mode
[08:10] <mooseman447> do you know how to make xchat auto join servers?
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> which let me create a password for root
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> how can I live without su? can you?
[08:10] <noodz> basically you are limited to sudo by default but if you "sudo passwd root" you can create a password for it and that will enable login
[08:10] <polpak> BrunoTorres: you can create a password for root if you want.. I can't imagine why you'd want it though
[08:11] <witless> mooseman447: in the server list, click edit, and there's a space for "channels to join"
[08:11] <polpak> BrunoTorres: sudo -i works fine for me
[08:11] <BrunoTorres> because I'm used to it and i don't like sudo
[08:11] <BrunoTorres> sudo -i?
[08:11] <polpak> BrunoTorres: gives you a root shell
[08:11] <mooseman447> yea but i want to just launch xchat and have it join freenode without any interaction
[08:11] <polpak> BrunoTorres: same as su -
[08:11] <ElBrujo> hey
[08:11] <ElBrujo> some body know about XGL?
[08:12] <witless> mooseman447: it does
[08:12] <polpak> !xgl
[08:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:12] <BrunoTorres> but, it'll tell me to create a password to root on the installation process?
[08:12] <ElBrujo> i cant start xgl in a sesion
[08:12] <mooseman447> how?
[08:12] <ElBrujo> i made the scripts
[08:12] <polpak> BrunoTorres: no, but you can create one after the install
[08:12] <BrunoTorres> how?
[08:12] <mooseman447> i always need to go to server and then find freenode and then it autojoins the chans
[08:12] <polpak> BrunoTorres: sudo passwd root
[08:12] <ElBrujo> and i select xgl in sesion selector
[08:12] <noodz> "sudo passwd root"
[08:12] <witless> mooseman447: press ctrl-S, select the network, click edit, and enter the channels to join in the given space.  next time you start xchat, it will enter those channels
[08:12] <polpak> !tell BrunoTorres about root
[08:12] <ElBrujo> but it don't work
[08:12] <BrunoTorres> ah, so now life is happiness and glee again
[08:12] <ElBrujo> ???
[08:13] <polpak> !tell ElBrujo about xgl
[08:13] <BrunoTorres> i know root is unsafe and bla bla bla, but i know what i do with my box...
[08:13] <polpak> ElBrujo: read the message ubotu sent you
[08:13] <mooseman447> brb let me check
[08:13] <ElBrujo> yea i follow these steps but my xgl sesion dont work
[08:14] <BrunoTorres> I mean, if it's just me who will use the computer, there's no point on not using root for security reasins
[08:14] <ElBrujo> i cant start the xgl in GDM
[08:14] <noodz> BrunoTorres, thats the way I feel.  but when I need a root shell sudo -i works well and theres no reason to open a possible security hole unless you have a really good reason dont want to leave a root tty open by accident
[08:14] <BrunoTorres> I'll just use it when I need it, and i'll know what I do
[08:14] <babo> so if I want to use my server to send out a letter, but that letter is in Korean. How would I got about doing that, without having to install Korean on the server ?
[08:14] <mooseman447> nope i had to do crtl s and manually hit connect
[08:14] <BrunoTorres> noodz: I'll give sudo -i a try
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> it'll just open a root shell?
[08:15] <witless> mooseman447: works automatically for me. let me see
[08:15] <mooseman447> witless are you using some sorta script?
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: yep
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: you can't tell the difference
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> won't prompt for the root password?
[08:15] <witless> mooseman447: ah, i think you might have to check "skip server list at startup"
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: it'll prompt you for your user password
[08:15] <mooseman447> yea i did try that
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> ah, so it's nice
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the root password will still be disabled
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> polpak: thanks
[08:16] <mooseman447> its odd because a app like this would seem like it would autojoin the network
[08:16] <BrunoTorres> noodz: thanks
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: so no sneaky poking at ssh trying to get root access
[08:16] <BrunoTorres> I'll go there and install it
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the cool thing about the live cD
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: you can come chat with us while it's installing
[08:16] <BrunoTorres> heh...yeah
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: or play a game
[08:16] <witless> mooseman447: how about "auto connect to this network at startup"
[08:16] <mooseman447> where did you find that?!
[08:17] <BrunoTorres> well, let's see if this time I'll keep ubuntu and not go back to ol' debian unstable
[08:17] <witless> same dialog where you enter the channels to join
[08:17] <BrunoTorres> :D
[08:17] <ElBrujo> please
[08:17] <amit> can an image of ubuntu be made to port it on ARM processor?
[08:17] <princeduke> \quit
[08:17] <mooseman447> lol another obvious mistake i should sleep now.....
[08:17] <Sashi> hey
[08:17] <witless> :-)
[08:18] <amit> can an image of ubuntu be made to port it on ARM processor?
[08:18] <Sashi> i cant seem to change permissions to a folder and its sub dirs
[08:18] <mooseman447> lol but now is it possible to launch xchat on boot?
[08:18] <Sashi> i did chmod 777 but it wont change..
[08:18] <BrunoTorres> so, people, thanks for the help...I'll come back to tell you how good I'm doing with ubuntu
[08:18] <BrunoTorres> bye bye
[08:18] <polpak> Sashi: can only change perms on files you own
[08:18] <witless> mooseman447: i think you can do that in the sessions preferences
[08:18] <mooseman447> k cool
[08:18] <Sashi> ok..
[08:18] <Sashi> so how can i change the owner
[08:18] <polpak> Sashi: sudo
[08:19] <witless> Sashi: what are you trying to change?
[08:19] <noodz> Sashi: sudo chown
[08:19] <amit> can an image of ubuntu be made to port it on ARM processor?
[08:19] <mooseman447> whoa i found it witless
[08:19] <witless> excellent
[08:19] <polpak> Sashi: you could alternatively sudo chmod if you really want the owners to stay the way they are
[08:19] <mooseman447> that was oddly easy.......
[08:20] <Ademan> anyone here know a possible reason why i can't connect to my ftp server when i've set it up so that ports 20 and 21 are forwarded (through my router) to my server, as well as 44000 - 44128, and vsftpd has that range set as the pasv_min and pasv_max ports
[08:20] <Sashi> i want to change owner
[08:20] <Sashi> on a folder
[08:20] <Sashi> and its sub dirs
[08:20] <tozth> Sashi: sudo chown owner:group
[08:20] <polpak> Sashi: sudo chown -r owner:group dir
[08:20] <polpak> err
[08:20] <polpak> -R
[08:20] <witless> note that will also change the file ownership, not just the dirs
[08:20] <witless> -R
[08:20] <zcat[1] > Ademan: can you telnet localhost 21 from the server ?
[08:20] <Sashi> owner is who owns it?
[08:21] <Sashi> or i want to change it
[08:21] <zcat[1] > or ftp localhost ?
[08:21] <Sashi> to that owver
[08:21] <polpak> Sashi: it's who you want to own it
[08:21] <polpak> Sashi: it'll change any other files (not just directories) in that directory as well
[08:21] <polpak> Sashi: what folder are you changing?
[08:21] <witless> Sashi: is this on a directory of your data or is it a ssytem directory?
[08:22] <Sashi> its on my folder
[08:22] <Sashi> /home/Sashi/Desktop
[08:22] <witless> ok
[08:22] <Sashi> sudo chown -R sashi:sashi Desktop/Stuff/
[08:22] <polpak> Sashi: then sudo chown -R Sashi:Sashi /home/Sashi/Desktop should be fine
[08:22] <Sashi> k
[08:22] <polpak> Sashi: unless your user is lowercase
[08:22] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i can ftp the server from behind the same router
[08:23] <polpak> Sashi: in which case make it lower ;p
[08:23] <da> hi how can i play encrypted dvd's im getting some error"libdvdread cannot play encrypted dvd"
[08:23] <suprchris> I just thought that maybe it would make you guys feel good to know that linux, with your help is really easy to understand
[08:23] <suprchris> thanks for all your support guys
[08:23] <Ademan> i havent tried it from the server
[08:24] <witless> suprchris: excellent - keep working at it
[08:24] <suprchris> like I said it's super easy
[08:24] <polpak> suprchris: linux isn't really that hard.. The 90's was a long time ago ;p
[08:24] <da> simply i want to enable encrypted dvd support im apparently missing some program any ideas?
[08:24] <suprchris> and i like it already, better than windows
[08:24] <polpak> suprchris: it's gotten so much better since then
[08:24] <zcat[1] > Ademan: next thing to check; is the router passing traffic through (use etherial to check) and is the ftp server configured to only accept connections from your local network?
[08:24] <polpak> !tell da about dvd
[08:24] <zcat[1] > Ademan: and do you have any kind of firewall rules on the server box?
[08:24] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[08:24] <polpak> da: read the message from ubotu
[08:25] <Sashi> thx :)
[08:25] <Sashi> one more question
[08:25] <Ademan> zcat[1] : no firewall that I know of on the server, but i don't know if its passing the traffic through or not, i'm telling it to though lol
[08:25] <Sashi> how can i format a NTFS hdd?
[08:25] <da> thanks thats exactly it
[08:25] <polpak> Sashi: you can use gparted
[08:25] <Sashi> o yes
[08:25] <elijah> what was that command to switch off ntpdate on boot?
[08:25] <zcat[1] > Ademan: run a packet sniffer and see if anything's getting through when you try to connect; the firewall might require a reboot before it applies your rules too...
[08:27] <Ademan> whats a decent packet sniffer for linux?
[08:27] <suprchris> I might be stating the obvious but is ubotu a bot?
[08:27] <polpak> suprchris: yes
[08:27] <polpak> !botsnack
[08:27] <ubotu> :)
[08:27] <cynical> lol
[08:27] <zcat[1] > ethereal
[08:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell suprchris about yourself
[08:28] <zcat[1] > !ubotu
[08:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:28] <chris_> DBO here?
[08:28] <elijah> plz tell me how to stop ntpdate..i dont remember that command
[08:28] <chris_> :)
[08:28] <suprchris> wow like a robot with a manual and all
[08:28] <suprchris> how 'bout that
[08:29] <Ademan> thanks zcat[1]
[08:30] <witless> elijah: when does it run - when you boot?
[08:31] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:31] <elijah> witless, yes
[08:31] <peanutb> how do i shutdown from terminal?
[08:31] <elijah> witless, there was a command na? sudo rc something?
[08:31] <da> polpak what do i do when the ubotu information is wrong?
[08:32] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:32] <polpak> da: ah.. sorry I thought that factoid referenced the wiki
[08:33] <polpak> da: go to the restricted formats wiki. it explains how to get dvd's to work
[08:33] <polpak> !tell da about restricted
[08:33] <redblades> There is something special about ubuntu, something fundamentally different in the very concept.
[08:33] <varsendaggr> has anyonte trie using SPE?
[08:33] <bthornton> what is the "preferred" file sharing protocol between Linux boxen?  I'm looking for one that's both secure and fast... NFS seems obvious, but the security holes are glaring
[08:33] <da> i got it t hanks although who can i  tell ot change that link the seveas repository dosent acually contain libdvdcss2
[08:34] <polpak> da I'll fix it
[08:34] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:34] <witless> elijah: it looks like on dapper that ntpdate runs when your network interface comes up
[08:34] <da> :)
[08:34] <amonkey> how can i check what driver a network interace is using?
[08:35] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound in dapper my system already detect the sound card (ac97)
[08:35] <redblades> There is footage of Nelson Mandela, in which he describes "ubuntu" and it occurred to me, that ubuntu has the potential to change the very meaning of life
[08:35] <redblades> udo: can or can't?
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> redblades, i think it is probably a but simpler than that
[08:35] <udo> cant
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> *bit
[08:35] <varsendaggr> redblades, do you smoke grass?
[08:36] <suprchris> that's odd i have the same and mine detected upon install
[08:36] <redblades> no
[08:36] <redblades> Why?
[08:36] <varsendaggr> that's good
[08:36] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:36] <redblades> varsendaggr: no, why?
[08:36] <varsendaggr> you were getting philisophicall
[08:36] <redblades> Oh
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> !offtopic
[08:36] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:36] <bthornton> Any suggestions for filesharing alternatives to NFS for Linux <--> Linux transfers?  Samba?  Or is that more of a "hack" between Linux boen?
[08:36] <bthornton> *boxen
[08:37] <witless> elijah:
[08:37] <redblades> pppoe_dude: get a life
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, you can try fish
[08:37] <bthornton> !fish
[08:37] <ubotu> [fish]  A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[08:37] <witless> elijah: if you comment out the settings in /etc/default/ntpdate, i think it will bypass ntpdate on boot
[08:37] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound in dapper my system already detect the sound card (ac97)
[08:37] <redblades> bthornton: Samba works fine between Linux/Windows
[08:37] <redblades> Same SMB protcol
[08:37] <redblades> ***protocol
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, it actuall can work very nicely if properly configured
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, and you get bonus security
[08:38] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:38] <bthornton> redblades: yeah I knew that, I just wasn't sure if it was oft used between linux machines exclusively
[08:38] <redblades> Oh, sorry. I misunderstood the question
[08:38] <tb77> udo: are you using gnome?
[08:38] <Khaotik> Someone please help me :(
[08:38] <udo> tb77 yes
[08:39] <udo> i can hear anything the volumes is up
[08:39] <bthornton> I want something that's "native" to Linux/Unix, which sorta screams NFS... but it's just unacceptable for anybody to gain access to any files if they just create an account on the client with the same UID/GID
[08:39] <Lorri> How do I get rid of shift+backspace that restarts X
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, fish would do that... you can mount filesystems like any other,
[08:40] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: I'm looking fish up right now; thanks for the suggestion
[08:40] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:40] <Khaotik> PLEASE
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, once you configure it.. and most computers have ssh
[08:40] <tb77> udo: right click on the volume control -> preferences
[08:40] <suprchris> hey udo try looking here if nothing else works: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:41] <Khaotik> Can anyone help me with my digital audio output?
[08:41] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:41] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: is fish a KDE-specific beast?
[08:41] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: as per http://www.linux.org/lessons/short/fish/x24.html ?
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, no. it is more of a console-based thing
[08:41] <bthornton> hm
[08:41] <bthornton> ok
[08:42] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem?  DUH. I'm, yelling. At the trollish repetition
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> Khaotik, please watch language. someone is probably checking out your problem
[08:43] <Khaotik> lol
[08:45] <redblades> Khaotik: I know it can be frustrating, but the people here all have things they need to be doing, and if you think nobody say the post, wait 5 minutes, then post again.
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[08:45] <Khaotik> Yes master...
[08:45] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: kewl, thanks again
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:46] <vortex> hello. i used the update function and now my system is not booting any more. a friend has the same problem. "root (hd0,0) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> vortex, was your kernel updated?
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> vortex, try rebooting with the old kernel
[08:47] <vortex> yes and same problem
[08:48] <Lorri> How do I get rid of shift+backspace that restarts X
[08:48] <Unintentional> hey.  I'm attempting to write a script that would run at startup that would sync data between two machines using rsync over ssh.  does anyone know where I'd place the private key so authentication is automatic?
[08:48] <Unintentional> do I have to create a /home/root/.ssh for that?
[08:48] <kholerabbi> How do I make windows default in grub?
[08:48] <witless> Unintentional: yeah - you have to generate public and private keys
[08:48] <dam> !dma
[08:48] <ubotu> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> vortex, anything else changed since then?
[08:48] <vortex> no
[08:49] <witless> kholerabbi: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, check out the option named "default" - it's documented in the file
[08:49] <blktiger> have samsung clp-510n printer. samsung provides linux i386 driver. how can i use that if I am runing amd64 kernel
[08:49] <pppoe_dude> vortex, what stage of the booting process does it sto pat?
[08:49] <vortex> directly after grob
[08:49] <vortex> grub
[08:49] <kholerabbi> witless: cheers, I new you could do something with that file but wasn't sure - also, is there any other way of doing?
[08:50] <Unintentional> witless: I have the keys okay, I just don't know where to put them.  normally it's in $HOME/.ssh, but I don't know which user startup scripts run as, nor what folder is home for that user.
[08:50] <witless> kholerabbi: i don't think so - that's the way you do it
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> vortex, do you have dual booting?
[08:50] <wm0t> hello, does anyone know how to fake hops?
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> vortex, or do you have windows installed?
[08:51] <Sashi> hey
[08:51] <witless> Unintentional: i guess it would be root.  so put the public key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[08:51] <Sashi> how do i move files to a folder?
[08:51] <witless> also, make sure that file is not world-readable, or the connect will fail
[08:51] <Sashi> erm how do i move every file into a folder
[08:51] <vortex> pppoe_dude: the only thing i have on screen after grub is: booting 'ubuntu, krnel 2.6.15-23-386' root(hd0,0) filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 kernel /boot/... root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash error 17: cannot mount selected partition prass any key
[08:51] <kholerabbi> witless: Do I just change the "default		0" line to "default		5" or whatever number is windows?
[08:52] <Unintentional> witless: I'll give it a shot.  thanks.
[08:52] <witless> Unintentional: np - good luck
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> vortex, do you have more than one operating system on the computer?
[08:52] <vortex> pppoe_dude: i have windows kind of installed.
[08:52] <witless> kholerabbi: yes, that's it.  remember that the numbering starts with 0, not 1
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> vortex, ok
[08:52] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> vortex, looks like a grub problem
[08:52] <Unintentional> witless: actually, wait, is /root the home for root, as opposed to /home/root?
[08:52] <kholerabbi> witless: Thanks :)
[08:52] <witless> Unintentional: it's /root
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> vortex, you might need to boot from rescue CD and reinstall or reconfigure grub
[08:53] <Unintentional> witless: beautiful.  thanks again.
[08:53] <Sashi> /home/ is where all your users
[08:53] <Sashi> are
[08:53] <witless> good luck
[08:53] <witless> root is special - its home directory is /root
[08:53] <bthornton> Anybody else having slow ssh file transfers between Ubuntu 6.06 hosts?
[08:53] <Toma-> ive got a small printing issue, i cant add a new printer even tho i have all the drivers installed. Step 2 of the Add a printer dialog has no Manufacturers and hence,  no printers. Anyone else seen this problem?
[08:53] <witless> bthornton: what's "slow"?
[08:53] <Khaotik> Is their still support for Breezy?
[08:53] <bthornton> I'm pulling files across the local network at a fraction of the speed that I do from the Internet
[08:53] <Sashi> so...
[08:54] <vortex> pppoe_dude: a friend get the same problem from a fresh downloaded ubuntu version
[08:54] <witless> bthornton: using scp ?\
[08:54] <Sashi> how do i move all files into a folder
[08:54] <ompaul> Khaotik, until 04 in 2007
[08:54] <bthornton> witless: This is using the graphical "Connect to Server..." function in Gnome
[08:54] <witless> Sashi: mv <filespec> /the/folder/
[08:54] <wm0t> hello, does anyone know how to fake hops?
[08:54] <Sashi> filespec?
[08:54] <gigaclon> *.*
[08:54] <gigaclon> for all
[08:54] <bthornton> witless: I'll benchmark...
[08:54] <ompaul> wm0t, obviously not
[08:55] <Khaotik> ompaul: Thank you
[08:55] <gigaclon> that would require going to a beer company and finding out what real hops are
[08:55] <witless> Sashi: if you want to move everything in /home/foo into /home/bar, you would do:   mv /home/foo/* /home/bar/
[08:55] <wm0t> hello, does anyone know how to fake hops? as in traceroute hops
[08:55] <Sashi> lol o man
[08:55] <Sashi> im sooo out
[08:55] <Sashi> i hate it
[08:55] <varsendaggr> can someone tell me if SPE works for dapper
[08:55] <vortex> pppoe_dude: "rescue CD" = normal download? i cannot find another one
[08:56] <Sashi> havent used linux for almost 2 years now T.T
[08:56] <witless> Sashi: it will all come back to you  :-)
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> vortex, its the same CD you installed from if you downloaded the "desktop" install CD
[08:56] <Sashi> yes hopefull
[08:56] <xprisoner> anybody noticed the latest updates on Dapper broke the sound on Unreal 2004?
[08:56] <kholerabbi> Often there are two of the same files together - one will be normal, while th other will have a tilde (~) at the end of the filename, and a different icon - what's the difference, what are they?
[08:56] <Khaotik> Now i see why i went back to Mac
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> vortex, however, I am not entirely sure about the specifics of whaT you need to do
[08:57] <Topslakr> kholerabbi - one has been edited the ~ is the revision before the last save
[08:57] <amarokker>  err, guys - something not rdirectly related to Ubuntu- i am doing my cambridge computing coursework using linux.- but i am having some probs developing a web application using mysql- any help (pvt is ok) is greatly appreciated...and of course, guess whats community is going to get all the credit ;)
[08:57] <witless> kholerabbi: those are backup files.  if you edit a text file, you'll see that the original is named with the ~
[08:57] <skipmeister> what happened to the gnome tool for starting/stopping services? Is there a replacement?
[08:57] <vortex> pppoe_dude: but i should use a new one, or the one i used like 2 weekes ago, when i installed 6.06?
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> wouldnt matter - they should be the same
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> one release
[08:57] <Madpilot> amarokker, you might want to try #web
[08:57] <kholerabbi> hmm - OK thanks - the menu.lst has one - I just open the one without the tilde?
[08:57] <witless> skipmeister: System, Administration, Services
[08:57] <amarokker> Thanks, mad pilot :)
[08:58] <vortex> pppoe_dude: thank you very much for your kinde help. i will try my luck :)
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> vortex, np
[08:58] <skipmeister> witless, but there are a lot less services than under the previous version of this app
[08:58] <witless> oh
[08:58] <martii> hi
[08:58] <martii> it looks I have a problem
[08:58] <martii> after some latest upgrades
[08:58] <martii> my alsa setup is broken
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> vortex, might wanna try man grub
[08:59] <Toma-> Anyone know a reason as to why my printing drivers arnt showing in the Add Printer box?
[08:59] <kholerabbi> Hey, /boot/grub/menu.lst is a sudolocked file? How do I open it through the command line? And how do I open it through the file browser?
[08:59] <martii> USB microfone became default device
[08:59] <martii> hw0,0
[08:59] <xprisoner> my sound works in rhythembox but some of my games no longer work as well martii
[08:59] <Lorri> Guys
[09:00] <Lorri> How can I make
[09:00] <Lorri> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:00] <martii> xprisoner: it does not work on startup
[09:00] <Lorri> run every time at boot
[09:00] <martii> xprisoner: I get mutet sound icon on top taskbar
[09:00] <vortex> pppoe_dude: problem: cant start the linux...
[09:00] <blktiger> have samsung clp-510n printer. samsung provides linux i386 driver. how can i use that if I am runing amd64 kernel
[09:01] <xprisoner> hmm, i don't have that issue, my sound is working on startup
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> vortex, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/grub.8.html
[09:01] <vortex> thx!
[09:01] <dura> vmlinuz
[09:01] <witless> kholerabbi: you could try running this at the command line:  sudo gedit   - and then open the file and edit it
[09:01] <dura> init.rd
[09:01] <dura> err
[09:01] <dura> initrd
[09:01] <dura> insomnia sucks...
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> vortex, also check out grub-install
[09:01] <Lorri> How can I make
[09:01] <Lorri> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:01] <Lorri> run every time at boot
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> vortex, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/grub-install.8.html
[09:02] <Toma-> Anyone know a reason as to why my printing drivers arnt showing in the Add Printer box?
[09:02] <dura> Lorri, Add it to ~/.xinitrc
[09:02] <kholerabbi> witless: that works - but isn't there a way of doing it in one line? I tried sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst but ti didn't work
[09:02] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[09:02] <Lorri> okay thanks
[09:02] <dura> Toma-, What Printer? Is it supported?
[09:02] <Toma-> dura, yep
[09:02] <witless> kholerabbi: i tried it and it worked for me
[09:03] <Toma-> dura, Epson stylus rx530
[09:03] <Lorri> dura: Do I have to add it to startup things
[09:03] <nessmuk> can someone tell me which file to edit to correct my monitor resolution?
[09:03] <ompaul> !resolution
[09:03] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:04] <dura> Lorri, Just put   exec /usr/bin/whatever
[09:04] <ompaul> nessmuk, ^^ up a line or two
[09:04] <kholerabbi> witless: Oh, woops, I tried gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst instead of just sudo
[09:04] <dura> Toma-, Well..
[09:04] <dura> hmm
[09:04] <ompaul> !enter
[09:04] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:04] <witless> ah ok
[09:04] <jrsims> HEY did those RECENT PACKAGE UPDATES kill anyone's x windows?
[09:04] <Toma-> dura, im gonna file a bug :( ive got another bug with nvidia drivers too
[09:04] <dura> Toma-, Do you have the windows driver disc?
[09:04] <Toma-> dura, yeh, no ppd files on it tho
[09:04] <nessmuk> ! resolution
[09:04] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:05] <dura> Try renaming it to .pdd?
[09:05] <dura> That worked for me...
[09:05] <Toma-> rightio
[09:05] <Lorri> dura: To make the file, do I just put this in the file
[09:05] <Lorri> and nothing else?
[09:05] <ganteng> hi
[09:06] <dura> Lorri, If there isn't a .xinitrc in your /home then yes make it.