[15:56] <ken_> Windows 10 received mostly positive reviews upon its original release in July 2015; critics praised Microsoft's decision to downplay user-interface mechanics introduced by Windows 8 (including the full screen apps and Start screen) in non-touch environments to provide a desktop-oriented interface in line with previous versions of Windows, although Windows 10's touch-oriented user interface mode was panned for containing regressions upon the touch-oriented
[15:56] <ken_> interface of Windows 8. Critics also praised the improvements to Windows 10's bundled software over 8.1, Xbox Live integration, as well as the functionality and capabilities of Cortana personal assistant and the replacement of Internet Explorer with Microsoft Edge.
[15:56] <ken_> Critics characterized the initial release of Windows 10 in July 2015 as being rushed, citing the incomplete state of some of the operating system's bundled software (such as the Edge web browser), as well as the stability of the operating system itself on launch.[6][7][8] Windows 10 was also criticized for limiting how users can control its operation, including limited controls over the installation of updates on the main consumer-oriented edition in
[15:56] <ken_> comparison to previous versions. Privacy concerns were also voiced by critics and advocates, as the operating system's default settings and certain features require the transmission of user data to Microsoft or its partners. Microsoft has also received criticism for how it has distributed Windows 10 to users of existing versions of Windows, which has included the automatic downloads of installation files to computers, the recurring display of pop-ups
[15:56] <ken_> advertising the upgrade, and the installation process being scheduled or initiated automatically without expressed user consent.[9][10][11][12]Windows 10 is a personal computer operating system developed and released by Microsoft as part of the Windows NT family of operating systems. It was officially unveiled in September 2014 following a brief demo at Build 2014. The first version of the operating system entered a public beta testing process in October
[15:56] <ken_> 2014, leading up to its consumer release on July 29, 2015.[4]
[15:56] <tgm4883> the drone seems to be asleep
[15:56] <tgm4883> !ops
[15:56] <ken_> Windows 10 introduces what Microsoft described as "universal apps"; expanding on Metro-style apps, these apps can be designed to run across multiple Microsoft product families with nearly identical code—including PCs, tablets, smartphones, embedded systems, Xbox One, Surface Hub and Windows Holographic. The Windows user interface was revised to handle transitions between a mouse-oriented interface and a touchscreen-optimized interface bas
[15:56] <ken_> ed on available input devices—particularly on 2-in-1 PCs; both interfaces include an updated Start menu which incorporates elements of Windows 7's traditional Start menu with the tiles of Windows 8. The first release of Windows 10 also introduces a virtual desktop system, a window and desktop management feature called Task View, the Microsoft Edge web browser, support for fingerprint and face recognition login, new security features for enter
[15:56] <ken_> prise environments, and DirectX 12 and WDDM 2.0 to improve the operating system's graphics capabilities for games.
[15:56] <ken_> Microsoft described Windows 10 as an "operating system as a service" that would receive ongoing updates to its features and functionality, augmented with the ability for enterprise environments to receive non-critical updates at a slower pace, or use long-term support milestones that will only receive critical updates, such as security patches, over their five-year lifespan of mainstream support. Terry Myerson, executive vice president of Microsoft's Windows
[15:56] <ken_> and Devices Group, argued that the goal of this model was to reduce fragmentation across the Windows platform, as Microsoft aimed to have Windows 10 installed on at least one billion devices in the two to three years following its release.[5]
[15:56] <_arktos75_> geez ,,,
[15:56] <Executioner> did he copy a wikipedia article or something on uwps for spamming?
[15:59] <Tin_man> well that was interesting, everything you wanted to know about windows 10 but was afraid to ask.
[15:59] <niber> =O9assi
[15:59] <niber> i
[16:01] <diverdude> Does anybody know a good tool for viewing images remotely? simple png images, with possibility of refreshing image easily
[16:03] <nacc> diverdude: do you already have a remote graphical interface?
[16:03] <diverdude> nacc, just ssh
[16:03] <diverdude> nacc, which ofc is not graphical
[16:03] <diverdude> nacc, but thats what i have
[16:03] <Tin_man> it would be only as fast as your connection. my default viewer works fine with ssh.
[16:05] <nacc> diverdude: well, ssh -X, potentially
[16:05] <diverdude> nacc, yeah...only that requires servers to have X installed and its slow and tedious :/
[16:05] <nacc> :)
[16:05] <diverdude> nacc, i was hoping for some easy to use image transfer program
[16:06] <nelson_> hi all, i am getting an Out of Range ! message generated by my display when booting Ubuntu 16.04.. I can get to a terminal if i boot in recovery mode and I am using the open source drivers
[16:06] <junaid> Does anyone guide me to upload a dkms package to PPA?
[16:06] <nelson_> has anyone ever run into the issue i described?
[16:06] <junaid> can*
[16:06] <nacc> junaid: what happens when you try?
[16:09] <junaid> nacc, it gets uploaded but when it gets downloaded and installed, it errors out "This package appears to be a binaries-only package"
[16:09] <nacc> junaid: link to PPA?
[16:09] <nacc> junaid: how are you installing it?
[16:10] <junaid> nacc, https://launchpad.net/~plumgrid-team/+archive/ubuntu/experiment/+packages
[16:10] <junaid> nacc, adding the ppa and then sudo apt-get install <dkms package>
[16:11] <junaid> nacc, sudo apt-get install iovisor-dkms
[16:11] <nacc> junaid: can you pastebin the exact output?
[16:11] <junaid> sure..
[16:12] <Tin_man> nelson_, might be your monitor setting is out of range, but not sure how you would fix it, someone here most likely would if given time to answer.
[16:13] <akik> is this a known bug that in unity with 2 displays, the launcher stops the mouse pointer from going into the other display?
[16:14] <akik> i moved the launcher to the bottom and the problem was gone
[16:14] <tgm4883> akik: Are you going at it full speed?
[16:15] <akik> tgm4883: full speed, always :)
[16:15] <tgm4883> akik: I don't have that problem at all. Hidden launcher, going at it full speed it goes to the other screen just fine
[16:16] <akik> tgm4883: i have the launcher on both displays
[16:16] <tgm4883> akik: as do i
[16:16] <akik> tgm4883: but i don't hide it
[16:16] <nelson_> Tin_man, thanks, this happened after in uninstalled the nvidia driver from the additional drivers tool
[16:17] <tgm4883> akik: auto-hide shouldn't affect it, I just tested and unhiding it doesn't cause issues for me either
[16:17] <tgm4883> 16.04
[16:17] <nelson_> i wonder if i were to just re-install the nvidia drivers if it would fix the issue.. anyone know what the package name is for the latest nvidia driver in the hardware drivers tool?
[16:17] <junaid> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18034279/
[16:18] <junaid> nacc, sorry for the delayed response..
[16:18] <nacc> junaid: np! looking
[16:27] <nelson_> so i was finally able to get to the desktop using nomodeset but now when i look in the additional drivers section i dont see any nvidia entries
[16:27] <kilbith> someone can explain me why the bloated package 'fonts-noto-cjk' is installed by default on ubuntu ?
[16:28] <kilbith> 75 MB, just for fonts... *cough*
[16:29] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hello?
[16:30] <TGVoid> Can someone help me with testdisk?
[16:30] <tgm4883> kilbith: someone thought that it was necessary enough to include it apparently
[16:31] <kilbith> tgm4883, yes... but why ?
[16:31] <TGVoid> This is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[16:31] <tgm4883> kilbith: that sounds like a question for the ubuntu developers mailing list, or you might be able to look through the changelog
[16:31] <nelson_> if i manually install nvidia-361 via the terminal in recovery mode does anyone know if that is the equivalent of selecting the "Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.43 from nvidia-361 (proprietary tested) as seen in the additional drivers tool?
[16:32] <kilbith> tgm4883,  apparently these are the japanese/chinese fonts, but why would i care if i'm european ?
[16:32] <tgm4883> kilbith: well there is one ISO for the whole world so....
[16:33] <kilbith> tgm4883, then this package should only be installed for the chinese/japanese
[16:33] <tgm4883> kilbith: TBH, I'm not completely worried about 75MB
[16:33] <tgm4883> kilbith: but if you want to really find out, you can see who added it in the change log and ask them
[16:34] <tgm4883> kilbith: it's a recommends to the ubuntu-desktop package, so my assumption would be that it just installs all recommends
[16:34] <tgm4883> (IIRC, recommends are on by default)
[16:34] <TGVoid> I'm having a problem when I did a quicksearch in Testdisk. This is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[16:34] <kilbith> tgm4883, you don't download 75 MB only one, there are also the updates...
[16:34] <kilbith> *one time
[16:34] <Edico> hi
[16:35] <tgm4883> kilbith: I would bet that package hardly ever gets updated during a release
[16:35] <kilbith> i remember having updated this package a bunch of times
[16:36] <Edico> is there a good application for .flv and .swf file in firefox?
[16:36] <Edico> to open .flv and .swf files
[16:36] <kilbith> there's an ubuntu developement channel on freenode ?
[16:37] <tgm4883> kilbith: well I only see it getting updated twice in trusty
[16:37] <tgm4883> kilbith: #ubuntu-devel
[16:37] <kilbith> ah, thanks
[16:38] <tgm4883> kilbith: but I've already told you to find out who to ask
[16:38] <kilbith> i don't really who to ask exactly
[16:38] <kilbith> +know
[16:39] <tgm4883> kilbith: try #ubuntu-devel then
[16:39] <kilbith> will do
[16:40] <OerHeks> kilbith, if you read some chinese japanese korean webpage/ text in your browser, you would want this package. else you come here and complain about weird characters
[16:41] <OerHeks> whats the fuzz about, i wonder
[16:42] <TGVoid> I'm having a problem when I did a quicksearch in Testdisk. This is what's happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18031657/
[16:42] <kilbith> OerHeks, i don't see why i would want this package when i abslutely don't read chinese
[16:43] <kilbith> as most of West people
[16:43] <nacc> generalize much? :)
[16:44] <tgm4883> nacc: I don't think that's a far off generalization
[16:44] <nacc> tgm4883: no, but never seeing a single chinese character in any format?
[16:45] <tgm4883> nacc: TBF, you have to get the character somehow (browser, email, etc) and care what it is
[16:46] <OerHeks> You will see when you don't have access to chinese/japanese/korean fonts...
[16:46] <OerHeks> anyway, you are free to remove it, that is the fun-part.
[16:47] <nacc> tgm4883: true true
[16:47] <nacc> tgm4883: it seems better to err on the side of caution for displaying the internet :)
[16:48] <kilbith> even Fedora don't ship that package by default iirc
[16:48] <kilbith> nor Debian
[16:49] <nacc> why is that relevant?
[16:49] <b100s> hi2all
[16:49] <b100s> is there way to undo last update?
[16:49] <b100s> looks likes my wifi broken by it.
[16:50] <tgm4883> nacc: probably true, I can't really think of a better way to do it
[16:50] <kilbith> nacc, these are popular distros, there might have stronger reasons to not include it than on the ubuntu side
[16:50] <tgm4883> kilbith: just remove the package if you don't want it
[16:50] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah, it seems like a relatively hard problem to solve well, and it's easier to just leave it as-is :)
[16:50] <OerHeks> kilbith, lolz, fedora uses other package names, you are right https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Fonts
[16:50] <kilbith> i just want to convince you to do not ship it anymore out-of-the-box
[16:51] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how big is the harddisk?
[16:51] <OerHeks> so you are wrong, solved.
[16:51] <tgm4883> kilbith: you're making the assumption that the other distros are doing it right and ubuntu is doing it wrong ;)
[16:51] <nacc> kilbith: you have failed to convince here or in #ubuntu-devel, afaict
[16:51] <cjch> anybody here ?
[16:51] <tgm4883> cjch: really?
[16:51] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The image is 977.5 GB
[16:51] <OerHeks> b100s, what wifi device?
[16:51] <EriC^^> TGVoid: the actual hard disk was 1gb?
[16:51] <EriC^^> *1tb
[16:52] <kilbith> tgm4883, i said : "it _might_ have stronger reasons to do not include it"
[16:52] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[16:52] <b100s> OerHeks, how can i get it?
[16:52] <HankTheAi> Hello,
[16:52] <EriC^^> TGVoid: did you try the deep search?
[16:52] <tgm4883> kilbith: but you were wrong, they do include it
[16:52] <HankTheAi> I am wanting to use the Intel ® X99 Express Chipset with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 built into my new mobo.
[16:52] <kilbith> ah sorry, mistunderstood the word "assumption"
[16:53] <b100s> OerHeks, DONE :) it was real hard locked )))))))
[16:53] <HankTheAi> however, it is designed to work with Windows OS and the Intel Rapid Storage Technology 13 support.
[16:53] <HankTheAi> obviously Intel Rapid Storage is not supported native in Linux.
[16:53] <TGVoid> EriC^^: You told me to use the EFI search andthe "partition can't be recovered" error appeared. The only option is "continue".
[16:53] <fennesz> Hello! Can someone help me with rtorrent ? from rutorrent I get : No connection to rTorrent. Check if it is really running
[16:53] <OerHeks> b100s, oh good, have fun!
[16:53] <HankTheAi> what is the best way to leverage the optimal performance of the X99 onboard RAID.
[16:53] <HankTheAi> ?
[16:53] <EriC^^> TGVoid: press continue
[16:54] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There's P MS Data and P Mac HFS
[16:54] <HankTheAi> or is there possibly any support for Intel Rapid Storage on Ubuntu?
[16:55] <HankTheAi> I would like to see if one of my drives fails or has any issues from the OS level, and not having to check it from the BIOS/boot level.
[16:55] <HankTheAi> even better would be to get some sort of warning in Ubuntu, similar to how Intel Rapid Storage works in Windows.
[16:56] <HankTheAi> in the past I have been able to see a failing drive in a RAID 10 and replace it quickly before any data loss occured.
[16:56] <kilbith> is it possible to convince you to drop Mir and return back to Wayland ? :]
[16:56] <HankTheAi> any help here is much appreciated, to just point me in the best direction.
[16:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how large is the MS DATA
[16:57] <nacc> HankTheAi: cursory googling so far, but it seems like Intel has done some Linux support for RST
[16:57] <TGVoid> EriC^^: 1371984
[16:57] <nacc> HankTheAi: dunno how good or bad it is
[16:57] <nacc> HankTheAi: and unclear if you need a drvier from them or not
[16:57] <HankTheAi> nacc: thanks buddy!
[16:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: at the bottom, how much GB ?
[16:57] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: seems like you want mdadm
[16:57] <tgm4883> !info mdadm
[16:57] <HankTheAi> I am digging through the super long mobo manual.
[16:57] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: per http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/000006040.html
[16:57] <HankTheAi> it does not mention anything about Linux of course. ;-)
[16:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It only shows HFS. It's 753 GB
[16:58] <nacc> HankTheAi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87979/configure-mdadm-for-existing-intel-rapid-storage-array
[16:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: is the ms data highlighted right now?
[16:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Nope. MS Data is 702 MB
[16:59] <DArqueBishop> HankTheAi: if the drives support SMART, you can use smartmontools to do SMART hardware checks of the drives.
[16:59] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: have you used mdadm before?
[16:59] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I have not
[16:59] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok, use the right arrow to get a "P" next to it then press continue
[16:59] <HankTheAi> I was hoping to find others using it in this channel.
[16:59]  * DArqueBishop uses mdadm but not with RST on his VM host server.
[16:59] <EriC^^> TGVoid: actually, press "p" over it and see the files in it
[16:59] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: mostly because I don't need RAID for my home boxes, and my work boxes use actual RAID cards
[16:59] <TGVoid> EriC^^: MS data?
[16:59] <Pici> HankTheAi: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to inquire
[17:00] <EriC^^> TGVoid: yeah
[17:00] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "Support for this filesystem hasn't been implemented."
[17:00] <HankTheAi> do most people setup a separate NAS or storage server box?
[17:00] <EriC^^> over ms data? try over hfs
[17:01] <HankTheAi> I can't really afford to upgrade more boxes, and this new X99 motherboard has an onboard RAID controller so I thought I would give that a go first.
[17:01] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18037126/
[17:02] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try deeper search
[17:02] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: thanks, I will do some more Googling. I need to first understand how good the support is for Intel Rapid Storage (LINUX)
[17:02] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I don't. I don't need high availability for my home stuff
[17:02] <HankTheAi> my main concern is if it is updated etc...
[17:02] <nacc> HankTheAi: aiui, that RAID controller is fake RAID
[17:03] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Alright. See you in a while
[17:03] <tgm4883> I'm not sure many people need high availability at home, but I'm sure they exist. Home businesses maybe
[17:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: let it run for like 1min then press enter
[17:03] <HankTheAi> I find that many of these kind of Windows bloat wares that come on all Windows PC's are usually not too well supported for Linux. Most of them do not even have a Linux version, and that makes sense because there are usually much better alternatives built into the Linux core.
[17:04] <HankTheAi> I am surprised that Intel has an official Intel Rapid Storage project.
[17:04] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: out of curiosity, why are you setting up raid anyway?
[17:04] <HankTheAi> my bigger question is what kind of drive formatting I should use.
[17:04] <TGVoid> Hey CodeMouse92! Thanks for your help yesterday!
[17:04] <HankTheAi> I will bring that topic over to Ubuntu server channel.
[17:04] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Only Mac HFS
[17:04] <CodeMouse92> TGVoid: Hi there. No problem. How'd it work out?
[17:04] <TGVoid> CodeMouse92: We're still working on it
[17:04] <HankTheAi> RAID?
[17:05] <HankTheAi> why would I not setup RAID is the better question. ;-)
[17:05] <HankTheAi> is there another way to protect data and automatically spread it across multiple drives?
[17:05] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: backups?
[17:05] <HankTheAi> data protection is the main reason for RAID
[17:05] <HankTheAi> performance is the second reason.
[17:05] <HankTheAi> but I am not concerned with performance in this case.
[17:05] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: whoa, no. Data protection is not the main reason for RAID
[17:05] <TGVoid> HankTheAi: There's RAID 1 with copies data from 1 drive to another
[17:05] <HankTheAi> there are much better options for storage performance these days.
[17:06] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: The main reason for RAID is high availability
[17:06] <HankTheAi> yeah so I don't really need the (0) for speed.
[17:06] <HankTheAi> the (1) is for dedup
[17:06] <HankTheAi> I used 10 in the past to get both combined.
[17:07] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: um. RAID 1 isn't dedup. It's the opposite
[17:07] <tgm4883> it's. completedup
[17:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: was the hdd ever used on a mac?
[17:07] <HankTheAi> might just use another level of RAID but with the new X99 mobo I got, there are so many new factors to consider.
[17:07] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Never
[17:07] <HankTheAi> yes, so I have a monster system, and I don't want to run another box just for storage.
[17:08] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: how about considering RAID isn't a replacement for proper backups
[17:08] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok, try to run the deeper search for longer and see if you get any partitions that look like they could be the one
[17:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Only Windows 8.1 and 10. The only other OS I used was Ubuntu on a USB
[17:08] <HankTheAi> I could setup Ubuntu Server and a dedicated server for storage on another box, but that seems overkill.
[17:08] <EriC^^> TGVoid: do you remember the partition sizes?
[17:08] <HankTheAi> I do a lot of 3D design type work.
[17:08] <EriC^^> C:\
[17:08] <HankTheAi> so I want to keep my files as close to the M.2 SSD as possible.
[17:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No. I copied only 1 partition
[17:08] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: nobody said you needed a second box...
[17:08] <HankTheAi> network will be the bottleneck
[17:09] <tatertots> Hank have you configured RAID on your new computer yet?
[17:09] <HankTheAi> I mean if I make a NAS
[17:09] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Imaged*
[17:09] <tatertots> which one will you configure
[17:09] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you did if=/dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sdb?
[17:09] <HankTheAi> so with on board RAID, I can use my RAID to keep my 3D assets right there in the same workstation tower.
[17:09] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you can do that without RAID as well
[17:09] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yeah
[17:10] <nacc> HankTheAi: but i don't think the x99 chipset is "on board RAID" in the way you are suggesting; it's fake-RAID (bios-assisted)
[17:10] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: actually my intention is to use the RAID for my backups.
[17:10] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Except I used /dev/sda4
[17:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: testdisk isn't going to help i guess then
[17:10] <HankTheAi> and to keep my files there too.
[17:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: testdisk looks for lost partitions in a disk
[17:11] <HankTheAi> I could not afford the M.2 1TB SSD lol
[17:11] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: Wait. You're going to keep your main files, and your backups on the same RAID setup?
[17:11] <HankTheAi> and even still I have about 1500GB of files
[17:11] <HankTheAi> 3D assets, architectural and engineering libraries.
[17:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[17:11] <EriC^^> TGVoid: nevermind, i think it might be able to fix stuff too
[17:11] <HankTheAi> the files can get heavy
[17:11] <HankTheAi> very heavy
[17:12] <HankTheAi> I feel so lost with so much "new tech" in this X99 system I upgraded to.
[17:12] <HankTheAi> can't complain
[17:12] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: are you talking just to talk?
[17:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> HankTheAi, new tech such as?
[17:12] <HankTheAi> but I was using a Xeon X5550 (dual cpu) workstation since 2009. Amazing that I actually did not need to upgrade until recently.
[17:12] <tatertots> tgm4883 i think hank is talking just to talk
[17:12] <tatertots> lol
[17:13] <tatertots> Hank says he's used raid in the past but yet he feels lost with the technology lol
[17:13] <tatertots> hmm
[17:13] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Should I run a quicksearch using the Intel filesystem?
[17:13] <HankTheAi> Intel ® X99 Express Chipset with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, and Intel
[17:13] <HankTheAi> Rapid Storage Technology 13 support:
[17:14] <maddawg2> damn i really am hating the later versions of ubuntu
[17:14] <HankTheAi> ummm, already mentioned M.2 SSD
[17:14] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or should I run it using "none?"
[17:14] <bmurphy1976> I'm really struggling to build an ubuntu 16.04 image that boots on amazon ec2 c3.large instance type (c3.xlarge is perfectly fine!!).  Where can I go to get help with this?
[17:14] <maddawg2> always finding damn bugs in the desktop environment
[17:14] <HankTheAi> that is the latest storage tech AFAIK
[17:14] <HankTheAi> Ie. "new tech"
[17:14] <maddawg2> for example... clicking on view-->as list does not view folder as list all the time
[17:14] <HankTheAi> and I was not talking just to talk...
[17:14] <maddawg2> keeps just showing them as icons
[17:15] <HankTheAi> I guess I need to do more research and testing on my own.
[17:15] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: then you should probably at least respond to the people talking to you
[17:15] <tatertots> I agree hank
[17:15] <tatertots> i agree
[17:15] <HankTheAi> the system I run as my production environment is not the norm.
[17:15] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: considering many of the things you said are generally are bad ideas
[17:15] <HankTheAi> I am using GPU PCI-e passthrough for Windows OS
[17:15] <HankTheAi> with Ubuntu as the Host OS.
[17:16] <fennesz> Hello ! Can someone tell why my external drive (ext4) is constantly spinning ? The led also blinks constantly
[17:16] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: There is nothing you said that is super special
[17:16] <Tin_man> OMG, ok HankTheAi we got it..
[17:16] <HankTheAi> so actually, I am trying to figure out a way to use the M.2 SSD on the X99 platform to cache all data to the faster storage and then automatically offload it the slower RAID (spinning disks)
[17:16] <maddawg2> my laptop and desktpp both have m.2 ssd
[17:17] <Tin_man> i'm running a brand new (to me) 6 old dell 2 core..
[17:17] <ikonia> HankTheAi: bcache ?
[17:17] <HankTheAi> but I did not want anyone's mind to explode by asking how to do that.
[17:17] <HankTheAi> lol
[17:17] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: on board raid, not special. 1500GB of files, not special. M.2 SSD, not special. Caching on SSD and offload to rust, not special
[17:18] <HankTheAi> tgm4883: what did I say that is a bad idea to implement?
[17:18] <HankTheAi> what exactly?
[17:18] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: we'd be happy to help, but you just need to state what you want to do and listen us when we tell you stuff
[17:18] <HankTheAi> I did not say anything I am doing is special...
[17:18] <HankTheAi> anyways...
[17:18] <HankTheAi> what did I say that is a "bad idea?"
[17:18] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: specifically. You said you were going to keep your backups and main files on the same RAID
[17:19] <HankTheAi> ah I see...
[17:19] <HankTheAi> I apologize, for not stating that clearly.
[17:19] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: before that, you said that you were using RAID for data protection
[17:19] <HankTheAi> I generally work off the SSD.
[17:20] <HankTheAi> what do you suggest then?
[17:20] <HankTheAi> I do not see another option.
[17:20] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: not a bad idea, but you also said that RAID 1 was for dedup
[17:20] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: proper backups are the other option for data protection
[17:20] <HankTheAi> with 256GB of SSD, I can't put all of my working files there and then backup only to the RAID.
[17:21] <HankTheAi> I am also using other drives to backup...I am not an idiot as you and others are implying.
[17:21] <nacc> HankTheAi: as ikonia just said, bcache does what you want. No one's mind has been exploded, because it's already something exists.
[17:21] <HankTheAi> I use cloud storage
[17:21] <HankTheAi> and I also have several external drives as well.
[17:21] <tatertots> OMG "cloud"
[17:21] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I'm not implying anything, I'm referencing exactly what you said
[17:21] <SchrodingersScat> chill out, we're trying to help
[17:21] <tatertots> like in the sky
[17:21] <tatertots> :-)
[17:21] <tatertots> :-0
[17:21] <HankTheAi> I would never fully trust a software RAID as my only backup source.
[17:22] <HankTheAi> that would be idiotic, and I can see why you are thinking I am an idiot.
[17:22] <tatertots> fake raid is blah
[17:22] <tatertots> if your data was important as you think it is you'd use a real raid controler
[17:22] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you should use bcache with your RAID for speed, then have proper backups. Although the raid there would be just personal preference
[17:23] <snkcld> im having issues connecting to my bluetooth headset. i was able to pair successfully, and in the menu bar it says "Connection on" for the headset toggle, but the headset does not show up in my volume settings for outputs
[17:23] <HadesWatch3r34> hey
[17:23] <ikonia> I'd question how much speed you really need
[17:23] <HankTheAi> maybe I should spend a lot more money on a PCI-e raid card, but that is too expensive to my use-case for other reasons...PCI slots.
[17:23] <Archives> Hi friends, I need a small help in Ubuntu
[17:23] <tgm4883> tatertots: there isn't anything especially wrong with the on board raid, although you are possibly right
[17:23] <HankTheAi> I use all my PCI-e slots for double-wide GPU's.
[17:24] <HankTheAi> I don't really need super fast storage in this use-case.
[17:24] <HankTheAi> I just need decent storage in the same box.
[17:24] <nacc> snkcld: i've had that happen before with pulse, if you run `pulseaudio -k` does it show up after pulse restarts?
[17:24] <tgm4883> ikonia: he mentioned 3d files, which can be large. although loading them is possibly still going to take a while depending on if it's in cache or not
[17:24] <Archives> Can anyone tell me how to configure screen-locks when the laptop lid is closed in Ubuntu.
[17:24] <Archives> I have tried a dozen of solutions but nothing seems to work, and I am totally a newbie in Ubuntu.
[17:24] <Archives> I have a HP laptop. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.
[17:24] <snkcld> nacc: ah, ok, let me try
[17:24] <HankTheAi> why is RAID via the on-board controller not good enough?
[17:25] <ztane> anyone here having problems with ktorrent somehow stalling in unity?
[17:25] <ztane> or knowing the solution to it
[17:25] <Archives> Besides, I have disc-crypt lock/password (I guess this is what some Ubuntu users call it but I'm sure)- which is when I turn-on the laptop, I am asked for a password after the Boot phase.
[17:25] <HankTheAi> that is what I have used for the last several years and never had any issues that I would not also have with dedicated RAID cards, or other alternatives.
[17:25] <HankTheAi> the only issues I have had is with failing drives.
[17:25] <HankTheAi> in the RAID 10.
[17:26] <HankTheAi> so how would bcache improve my setup?
[17:26] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: I think mdadm would probably be fine for your use case
[17:26] <HankTheAi> spinning disks are spinning disks.
[17:26] <nacc> HankTheAi: you asked a very specific question earlier; how to have your SSD cache for your spinning disks
[17:26] <nacc> HankTheAi: bcache is what does that.
[17:26] <tatertots> mdadm is really fun to use also
[17:26] <HankTheAi> still the best solution for having 2TB of duplicated storage, or am I wrong?
[17:26] <sam_tunder> what is the bash command for trimming an ssd?
[17:27] <HankTheAi> software raid, raid card, or other setup is still going to run on spinning disks regardless.
[17:27] <snkcld> nacc: doesnt seem to help. i think the headset is having problems connecting over bluetooth. theres a lot of interference here from other devices and wifi
[17:27] <HankTheAi> I am really confused as to what the confusion is.
[17:27] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: bcache in front of your RAID
[17:27] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hello?
[17:27] <HankTheAi> I simply was asking about the best solution for RAID on Ubuntu.
[17:27] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: that is what we are suggested (or I am anyway)
[17:28] <tatertots> Hank it sounds like you're still in the "conceptual" or "dreaming" phase of your setup...have you actually setup a raid array yet?
[17:28] <HankTheAi> nacc, no I did not ask that question.
[17:28] <nacc> HankTheAi: there are different guarantees (and resiliency in terms of cache and power failure) with on-board RAID and dedicated cards
[17:28] <HankTheAi> I said that I have set that up in the past.
[17:28] <tgm4883> tatertots: he's mentioned that he has setup other RAID setups
[17:28] <nacc> sigh
[17:28] <HankTheAi> I actually said, I am purposely not asking that question about caching.
[17:28] <nacc> "10:16 < HankTheAi> so actually, I am trying to figure out a way to use the M.2
[17:28] <nacc>                    SSD on the X99 platform to cache all data to the faster
[17:28] <nacc>                    storage and then automatically offload it the slower RAID
[17:28] <nacc>                    (spinning disks)
[17:28] <nacc> "
[17:28] <HankTheAi> I am using M.2 right now
[17:29] <HankTheAi> my Ubuntu install is running on it
[17:29] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you most certainly did 12 minutes ago
[17:29] <HankTheAi> and that is how I am talking to you guys lol
[17:29] <HankTheAi> nope
[17:29] <HankTheAi> wrong
[17:29] <HankTheAi> blah
[17:29] <HankTheAi> lol
[17:29] <HankTheAi> I was asking about Intel Rapid Storage
[17:29] <HankTheAi> if that is a good idea on Ubuntu
[17:29] <HankTheAi> or if there might be a better solution
[17:30] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: you were just quoted by nacc. We all have it in our backlog
[17:30] <HankTheAi> but now that we are talking about SSD caching...
[17:30] <HankTheAi> maybe I should reconsider my entire setup.
[17:30] <ikonia> HankTheAi: probably better if we cut to the chase and you just asked a clear question
[17:30]  * nacc apologizes for the paste, too hasty on my part
[17:30] <tgm4883> ikonia: +1
[17:30] <ikonia> nacc: it happens, don't break a sweat
[17:30] <tgm4883> nacc: no worries, I was going back to grab it too. You were just faster
[17:31] <nacc> heh
[17:31] <HankTheAi> I will state for the record, so I do not get attacked further that I think using Intel Rapid Storage seems like a bad idea.
[17:31] <HankTheAi> even if they support Linux and have a driver for it.
[17:31] <HankTheAi> let me rephrase, I always try to use what is built into the current LTS kernel support.
[17:31] <HankTheAi> Ie. KVM vs. Xen
[17:31] <tatertots> Hank so you have your OS on the SSD...and you haven't actually configured a raid yet with your other drives?
[17:31] <HankTheAi> Mir vs. Wayland.
[17:32] <nacc> HankTheAi: "Intel Matrix RAID, Intel Rapid RAID, and Intel Smart Response Technology, are together described as Intel Rapid Storage Technology.", it's just a branding thing, afaict
[17:32] <ikonia> HankTheAi: what's your question
[17:32] <ikonia> just state it clear
[17:32] <HankTheAi> my company is partnered with Canonical and I have invested a lot into the LTS releases.
[17:32] <tgm4883> ikonia: he's been like this the entire time
[17:32] <HankTheAi> FYI
[17:32] <tatertots> you should get on with setting up that raid and let us know if you have problems
[17:32] <ikonia> it's going to end
[17:32] <HankTheAi> haha
[17:32] <ikonia> HankTheAi: just state your question, your commentory isn't needed
[17:33] <tatertots> you are obviously using it without raid right now...why not just continue using it as is...since you feel so lost with the technology
[17:33] <HankTheAi> I feel so lost with technology?
[17:33] <HankTheAi> lol
[17:33] <tatertots> that what you said
[17:33] <HankTheAi> go eat some more tots.
[17:33] <HankTheAi> I love tatter tots btw.
[17:33] <ikonia> HankTheAi: enough now
[17:33] <tgm4883> HankTheAi: please clearly state your question
[17:33] <ikonia> HankTheAi: ask a question or please stop talking
[17:34] <tatertots> you don't love me hank
[17:34] <tatertots> lol
[17:34] <ikonia> tatertots: please don't ad to this
[17:34] <ikonia> add
[17:34] <HankTheAi> nope
[17:34] <HankTheAi> subtract
[17:35]  * tgm4883 tips our local ops
[17:36] <craigbass76> Is there a way to find all directories owned by so and so? I just want directories, not files. I don't see any kindof switch in the man page for find that looks likely
[17:36] <EriC^^> craigbass76: find -type d -user <user>
[17:37] <craigbass76> EriC^^, Bah... should have kept going down the man page before I asked...
[17:40] <craigbass76> EriC^^, Weird... I can run find / -name arial.ttf but can't run find / -type d user craig    I get paths must precede expression
[17:40] <EriC^^> -user
[17:40] <craigbass76> EriC^^, Neverming -- missed the dash
[17:42] <Archives> so much noise on this channel
[17:45] <akik> !quietirc
[17:49] <Guest79646> how to I set a username?
[17:49] <computer> what is the channel for raspberry pi?
[17:49] <silver-dragon> never mind
[17:50] <jatt> computer: the channel for raspberry pi is #raspberrypi
[17:50] <computer> jatt: thanks
[17:50] <jatt> 😺
[17:53] <nRy2> what is bcache?
[17:53] <nRy2> is it a bad idea to use it on the same system with a software RAID?
[17:54] <nRy2> #ubuntu, anyone home?
[17:55] <nacc> nRy2: did you try doing some research about bcache yourself?
[17:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hello?
[17:55] <EriC^^> TGVoid: hey
[17:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Should I run a quicksearch using the Intel filesystem?
[17:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or should I run it using "none?"
[17:55] <DJones> nRy2: Never heard of bcache before but a quick search pointed me towards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Bcache
[17:56] <nRy2> DJones: thanks
[17:56] <specialedge> Djones: can you tell me how to google a solution for my problem?
[17:56] <nRy2> me too
[17:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: i'm not sure about the format it's using with ddrescue, anyways try Intel maybe
[17:57] <nRy2> has anyone here actually tried Intel Rapid Storage on Ubuntu?
[17:57] <nRy2> I tried to ask this question and apparently annoyed several people.
[17:58] <nacc> nRy2: there is some discussion here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/308481/howto-run-ubuntu-with-uefi-and-intel-smart-response-technology
[17:58] <nRy2> so I will go back to my original question that was still never answered...
[17:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I already did a quick search and it saved
[17:58] <nRy2> Ubuntu, Intel Rapid Storage; could anyone here please kindly, with sugar on top let me know if they have tried it?
[17:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok try fdisk -l /image
[17:59]  * tgm4883 points out that this is the support channel and just asking if someone has tried something is generally frowned upon
[17:59] <nRy2> okay, so I guess this Channel is full of Googling experts, but other than that is pretty much useless.
[17:59] <nacc> nRy2: you've consistently ignored what i've asked or said -- but Intel RST is a windows-only thing (afaict).
[17:59] <TGVoid> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/18041402/
[17:59] <nRy2> Don't try to ask a real question, or you will be punted fast.
[18:00] <nRy2> nacc: ignore
[18:00] <nacc> nRy2: but i also pointed you to http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/software/rst-linux-paper.html
[18:00] <nRy2> yes thanks nacc
[18:00] <nRy2> I already used Google today too.
[18:00] <specialedge> nRy2: when someone doesn't immediately respond to a question, it is likely that those who read the question do not have a positive answer for you
[18:00] <nRy2> but thanks for Googling my question.
[18:00] <nRy2> actually my question, was always the same.
[18:00] <django_> hey
[18:01] <django_> i have 2 attached screens how do i access them?
[18:01] <nRy2> it's fine if no one knows the answer,
[18:01] <nRy2> has anyone used it?
[18:01] <nRy2> just a bunch of know it all using Google.
[18:01] <specialedge> nRy2: another alternative could be that someone who can answer the question has not yet read it, for any of a variety of reasons
[18:01] <nRy2> and I get punted for that BS.
[18:01] <nRy2> haha
[18:01] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how big is the image file?
[18:01] <nRy2> I am now wondering if I should stop investing my company's recourse into Ubuntu.
[18:02] <nRy2> and let canonical know about how lame people are on this channel.
[18:02] <tgm4883> nRy2: this is the wrong channel for making threats
[18:02] <nRy2> haha, threat?
[18:02] <nRy2> what?
[18:02] <zooom> hello, how do i re-map the keyboard    eg:  a -->  d
[18:02] <nRy2> I did not make any threats.
[18:02] <nRy2> wow
[18:02] <Dev_> Hi, I have a weird problem with sound card in Ubuntu 16.04. I have 2 options for the same sound card and jack in sound menu. First one is for 4.0, 5.1 and 7.1 sound. Second one its called "Headphones" but it's just the same jack and sound is stereo. I want stereo sound, but this "Headphones" option doesn't sound very good, it looks its customized for real headphones and quality is not very good.
[18:02] <nRy2> okay I will leave on my own now.
[18:02] <tgm4883> nRy2: and if you were truly doing that, you'd have contacts inside canonical to assist you
[18:02] <nRy2> because you are a such a child.
[18:02] <nRy2> get a life tgm3863
[18:02] <tgm4883> nRy2: well I am only 14
[18:03] <tatertots> nRy2 "companies" usually have IT departments with real IT people. Have you not consulted your companies IT
[18:03] <nRy2> makes more sense now.
[18:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try sudo mount -o loop /image /mnt
[18:03] <DJones> nRy2: If people don't konw the answer, generally they don't reply, obviously, this channel isn't a canonical channel, everybody here is a volunteer
[18:03] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It's 977.5 GB
[18:03] <Dev_> this doesn't happened on Ubuntu 14.04. I had an "Analog Stereo Output" option and the sound was great
[18:03] <tatertots> i suggest you do so...they are there for a reason you know
[18:03] <nRy2> it's more of the attitude of some people here that I am finding very childish.
[18:04] <nRy2> does not matter how old you are, you can always choose to act however you want.
[18:04] <nRy2> I was attacked first by a few of you saying stuff such as...
[18:04] <nRy2> I am confused by technology.
[18:04] <specialedge> nry2: perhaps an opportunity to look within has presented itself
[18:04] <nRy2> and rude remarks along those lines.
[18:04] <nRy2> grow up
[18:04] <tgm4883> nRy2: this is the support channel, if you are having a problem with your hardware we'd be happy to help. but questions such as "has anyone used this" is generally frowned upon in this channel
[18:05] <nRy2> hardware?
[18:05] <nRy2> this channel supports hardware too?
[18:05] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18041825/
[18:05] <nRy2> last time I checked Ubuntu was 100% software based.
[18:05] <tgm4883> nRy2: perhaps you prefer i use "hardware support"
[18:05] <nRy2> maybe some of you so called channel admins are confused about technology. lol
[18:05] <dax> oh, that's HankTheAi, fun.
[18:05] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try dmesg | tail
[18:05] <nacc> dax: thanks
[18:05] <tgm4883> dax: yep, same guy
[18:06] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how big was the partition you copied?
[18:06] <tatertots> yeah the fake raid was a dead give away that it was old Hank
[18:07] <tgm4883> I'm legit trying to help the guy
[18:07]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[18:07] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It brought up a bunch of stuff
[18:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: pastebin them
[18:07] <EriC^^> also how big was the partition you copied?
[18:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18042100/
[18:10] <neverever> Hi, I need helping launching an application I just installed
[18:11] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The image is 977.5 GB
[18:12] <neverever> Here is my problem, I just installed a program called strodinger. I know that it has been installed, but I am unsure of how to open it.
[18:14] <nacc> neverever: how did you install it?
[18:15] <neverever> nacc: We unpacked a file,
[18:16] <neverever> nacc: it was installed via mastero
[18:17] <tatertots> nevernever....was there a "read me" or any other documentation included with the file?
[18:17] <varaindemian> in ubuntu some packages get updates by defualt and others only if you add the ppa's?
[18:18] <mchelen2> varaindemian: they are all updated by default, if there are updates in the official repositories
[18:18] <neverever> nacc: I can write a more detailed description if you would like. We unpacked a file called Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar
[18:18] <varaindemian> or after staying some time in a ppa a package gets update?
[18:18] <neverever> nacc: we aren't really sure how to launch it after unpacking it
[18:18] <akik> neverever: you can see where it put files by "tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar". it's not installing per se
[18:18] <mchelen2> varaindemian: anyone can create a ppa, it's not necessarily tied to official repositories in any way
[18:19] <mchelen2> varaindemian: generally speaking, as software gets updated, it will eventually reach the official ubuntu repositories, but that takes time & depends on release cycles
[18:19] <ComMan> people, anyone knows how to use a cluster computer?
[18:20] <TGVoid> EriC^^:  Hello?
[18:20] <tatertots> oh boy
[18:20] <mchelen2> ComMan: thats a very broad subject. what type of cluster?
[18:20] <DJones> varaindemian: The official ubuntu repo's get security updates but not new versions, unofficial ppa's may have newer releases, but they're generally not supported outside of the ppa creator
[18:20] <ComMan> mchelen2: i have just built and setup a raspberry pi (3 node) cluster
[18:21] <varaindemian> mchelen2: so DE (kde plasma 5.7) will arrive to ubuntu after 6 months if does't have the ppa added?
[18:21] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok what software is it running?
[18:21] <ComMan> raspian
[18:21] <neverever> akik: okay I tried tar -tvf but i get the error, option requires an argument error
[18:21] <tatertots> isn't there a #rasberrypi channel
[18:22] <tatertots> someone posted it earlier i think
[18:22] <akik> neverever: "tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar"
[18:22] <mchelen2> varaindemian: i can't guarantee what version will be in a particular release. try searching in http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:22] <Backwards> Speaking of updates I have node -v   v5.11.1    There is the old nodejs and the new node.js    Would the old node version interfere with or is node.js <-----< .js in this case? I type node.js -V or --version and Ubuntu says it is not installed but node is.
[18:22] <akik> neverever: what you have done is just unpacking an archive file into your file system
[18:22] <mchelen2> ComMan: usually when people talk about cluster computing, they mean a particular parrelel processing framework. what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:23] <ComMan> mchelen2: i am trying to learn about cluster computing, which is why i built one to learn on it
[18:23] <mchelen2> Backwards: usually the executable is just "node" or "nodejs" i guess
[18:23] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok when you say "cluster computing" do you mean parrelel processing?
[18:24] <mchelen2> ComMan: like running a calculation that is split between all nodes
[18:24] <Backwards> I was reading that nodejs is the older version of node.js
[18:24] <ComMan> mchelen2: yes
[18:24] <mchelen2> Backwards: the executable name doesn't tell you a lot, the -v is what to look at
[18:26] <Backwards> I see. I am working on installing qwebirc or kiwiirc and it requires the latest node version. I believe I have the latest version. I was just confounded by Ubuntu tells me to apt-get node.js
[18:26] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok so there are a bunch of different approaches to check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_cluster#Some_implementations
[18:26] <neverever> akik: Okay, so I followed some online instructions for installing this package.
[18:26] <nacc> Backwards: in ubuntu, the two commands are node and nodejs. node is the legacy command (provided by nodejs-legacy).
[18:26] <EriC^^> TGVoid: one sec
[18:26] <EriC^^> reading the log
[18:26] <Backwards> Thanks Nacc.
[18:27] <EriC^^> TGVoid: after the mount command nothing extra is being added at the bottom?
[18:27] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try sudo mount -o loop -t ntfs-3g /image /mnt
[18:27] <akik> neverever: did you find the application?
[18:28] <Backwards> Nacc, I didn't know with Ubuntu that legacy commands are interchangeable with the new.
[18:28] <nacc> Backwards: afaict, `node` ends up just being a wrapper for nodejs. But not 100%
[18:28] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it may be ntfs not ntfs-3g
[18:29] <ComMan> mchelen2: ok i am starting to get it, i am using MPI
[18:29] <mchelen2> yeah i think so, the old workaround was to symlink node to point to nodejs
[18:29] <mchelen2> ComMan: ok cool, yeah i think thats a popular one
[18:30] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It shows me usage
[18:30] <ComMan> excellent, learned something today :-)
[18:30] <Backwards> Mchelen2 thanks for that point as well.
[18:31] <EriC^^> TGVoid: must be a typo
[18:31] <SirSlippers> HoWdY!!
[18:31] <SirSlippers> Anybody home?
[18:31] <Bashing-om> !ask | SirSlippers
[18:32] <Hulkie> Jordan_U: that's the debian bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664713 <<- i have the same error on Ubuntu, can someone help, please?
[18:33] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18043869/
[18:33] <SirSlippers> Xubuntu Install problems ... monitor shuts off after a few seconds in install and OUT OF RANGE error no screen ... nothing else
[18:33] <neverever> akik: So we have installed the application, opened it, and then we closed it and we have no idea how to open it again
[18:34] <EriC^^> TGVoid: can you run chkdsk on it from windows?
[18:34] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: What release are you installing .. and have you tried " nomodeset " as a boot option ?
[18:34] <akik> neverever: 1) tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar 2) go into the same directory where you unpacked the tar 3) the output from 1) will be in that directory
[18:34] <TGVoid> EriC^^: How?  We aren't that familiar with Ubuntu. We sat down installed the thing, then opened it, then closed it, and now we can't find it
[18:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The drive is gone
[18:35] <Hulkie> nacc, in eggdrop's dcc, when i read errorInfo variable.
[18:35] <nacc> Hulkie: sorry, i meant which version of Ubuntu?
[18:35] <EriC^^> TGVoid: http://superuser.com/questions/615683/perform-a-chkdsk-on-an-ntfs-image
[18:35] <Hulkie> nacc, 12
[18:36] <SirSlippers> ok ... I am a newbie ... I don't understand your question ... V14.4 Xubuntu ...
[18:36] <neverever> akik: ok thank you so much. I will try that right now.
[18:36] <nacc> Hulkie: that particular debian bug only refers to building against versions of openssl that are not yet packaged in Ubuntu (afaict)
[18:36] <Hulkie> nacc: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[18:36] <akik> neverever: of course if you unpacked it in some other way it could be elsewhere. can you paste the url for the document you followed?
[18:36] <TGVoid> EriC^^: So I need to mount it to Windows?
[18:36] <nacc> Hulkie: not even in Debian unstable yet, so can't be your bug, afaict
[18:36] <Hulkie> nacc, is therte any way i can fix?
[18:37] <Hulkie> uhm
[18:37] <EriC^^> TGVoid: yeah you need windows to fix ntfs
[18:37] <SirSlippers> "NOMODETEST" ??  where does that go?  How do I get to where I type that in?  What are the keystrokes to get there?
[18:37] <nacc> Hulkie: the corresponding Debian changelog specifically mentions openssl 1.1
[18:37] <Bashing-om> What we want is the see if it is a graphic's driver issue .. When booting "nomodeset" Kernel Mode Setting is diabled such that a lower level driver will be loaded .
[18:37] <varaindemian> from my understanding, the DE is part of the core system and its  stability is crucial therefore it won't get updates as often as other packages that are not part of the "core", right?
[18:38] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | SirSlippers
[18:38] <nacc> Hulkie: oh i see, there were two sets of changes that were made
[18:38] <neverever> akik: I am trying to figure out what someone else did. They will be back in around 30 min. Can they talk to you then?
[18:38] <akik> neverever: there will be people on #ubuntu to help you
[18:39] <SirSlippers> thankx ubottu .. but that's for version 10.0 ...
[18:39] <neverever> akik: actually they are here now
[18:39] <nacc> Hulkie: looks like it was fixed in 2.1.4-dfgs2-3 (and 12.04 has 2.1.4-dfgs-2build2)
[18:39] <nacc> Hulkie: i'd file an ubuntu bug if it's something you are actively seeing
[18:39] <nacc> !bug | Hulkie
[18:40] <varaindemian> Even python was out of date last time I checked
[18:40] <nacc> Hulkie: nm, already filed, i think, LP: #902645
[18:40] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: ^^ also applies in 14.04. We want to know that you are able to boot to a GUIi . degraded graphics with nomodeset is acceptable . we can then look and see what the situation is .
[18:40] <nacc> !latest | varaindemian
[18:40] <Hulkie> nacc, so guess i have to change the OS, right?
[18:40] <akik> neverever: only you and the document you followed know where you unpacked it
[18:41] <SirSlippers> no I cant boot to GUI ... the screen goes black and all I see is a small tred bar with OUT OF RANGE on it
[18:41] <nacc> Hulkie: not necessarily (although 12.04 goes EOL relatively soon)
[18:41] <neverever> akik: we already installed everything and we were on the program but then we x'ed out to restart it and we don't know how to find it again
[18:42] <SirSlippers> Bashing=om ... WHERE do I put "NOMODETEST" ????
[18:42] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: And what results in booting with the boot parameter "nomodeset" . to work around such issues ? until we can  do better .
[18:42] <akik> neverever: in which directory you unpacked the tar?
[18:42] <Hulkie> nacc, i have a vps, when i did a distro-upgrade got the same kernel because of the HOST's kernel, that's what i read @ google.
[18:42] <nacc> varaindemian: DE is part of the core graphical system, yes, but updates occur for security issues as necessary
[18:43] <nacc> Hulkie: hrm? why was that directed at me?
[18:43] <ccolorado> Hey I am getting this error when trying to install apache2 on ubuntu 14.04 machine. Any ideas ? http://pastebin.com/53RRgKnR
[18:43] <SirSlippers> HOW do I boot with the boot parameter "NOMODETEST"  ???
[18:43] <castro> i have problem update kernel ubuntu 14
[18:43] <akik> neverever: go into that directory and compare the filenames with the tar -tvf Schrodinger_suites_2016.tar output. your application will be there
[18:43] <Hulkie> nacc, is there a poit to upg distro if the kernel remains the same ?
[18:43] <Hulkie> point*
[18:44] <varaindemian> nacc: yeah, but what packages gets updates more often or how do you actually get packages updated?
[18:44] <nacc> Hulkie: i take it you're using containerized VPS?
[18:44] <varaindemian> for example firefox gets updates instantly
[18:44] <nacc> Hulkie: and yes, as the kernel is just one part of your distribution; and in the case of containerized VPS, you're not necessarily running the distribution's kernel
[18:44] <nacc> varaindemian: no it doesn't
[18:45] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: Read thge tutorial provided . Ultimately, boot to the grub boot menu -> boot parameters screen, make the edit to the command line ; key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process.
[18:45] <varaindemian> nacc: I mean, more often
[18:45] <Hulkie> nacc, yeap KVM
[18:45] <SirSlippers> oh man ... the tutorial speaks from a learned position as do you ... HOW do I boot to the Grub boot?
[18:45] <castro> Algum BR meu ingles e muito ruim
[18:45] <Pici> !br | castro
[18:46] <Backwards> SirSlippers, what is the resolution of your monitor? What type of video card are you using? Have you tried another monitor in order to make things simpler?
[18:47] <SirSlippers> I have hit F12 ... started the install form DVD ... hit ESC to stiop the install and am now at a screen that hasa nice XUBUNTU logo on it plus "Try Ubuntu without ionstalling" and a list of F-keys at thebottom
[18:48] <SirSlippers> This is a Gem monitor  on an IBM Thinkpad with 2.5Ghz processor and 2 gigs ram on 400G hard drive ...
[18:48] <OerHeks> SirSlippers, now hit F6 and choose nomodeset
[18:48] <OerHeks> see bottompanel
[18:48] <Backwards> SirSlippers sometimes on an install, there is a screen saver. Move the mouse or hit the space bar to see if that works.
[18:48] <SirSlippers> Oerheks > thankx  THAT'S what I was looking for!
[18:49] <neverever> akik: thank you!!
[18:49] <akik> neverever: no problem. you said it yourself, this was very basic thing
[18:51] <SirSlippers> OK ... YES!!   the screen is not great graphics but now I can at least the Xubuntu 16.04 logo
[18:52] <nacc> varaindemian: that just means there were more bugs int he original version :)
[18:52] <nacc> Hulkie: KVM != containers
[18:52] <django_> when i do ls is there a way to pipe it with grep to only display thngs that start with h
[18:52] <SirSlippers> I've loaded Xubuntu 6.10 on it already and I want to delete that all and put this new version on ... I have a paclage called KXStudio that I want to run .. after install .. how do I get that installed?
[18:52] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: Making good progress . .. Before we contine .. did you verify the .iso file download ?
[18:52] <nacc> Hulkie: if you did a dist-upgrade in a KVM guest and rebooted, you'd be able to switch the kernel (aiui). I guess maybe VPS don't let you do that, but I'm not sure and it'd be specific to the VPS
[18:53] <nacc> django_: ls | grep ^h ?
[18:53] <nacc> django_: might need quotes
[18:53] <EriC^^> django_:  or ls h*
[18:53] <Bashing-om> !info KXStudio
[18:53] <Backwards> SirSlippers I have had that problem a few times. If you move your mouse around the screen even in the corners of the screen you may find drop down menu or just right click mouse and look for video options. It couuld also be an old video card.
[18:53] <SirSlippers> Bashing-om: > ahhh .. I downloaded from my Windows machine and burnt the disk then used that on the ThinkCenter
[18:54] <Hulkie> nacc, im running an IRC server on a public network on that VPS, cannot update distro again.. but thank you
[18:54] <apb1963> what should I use to read PDF files?
[18:54] <apb1963> 14.04 LTS
[18:55] <SirSlippers> Backwards: > thankx ... I got the graphics desktop now
[18:55] <nacc> Hulkie: if you did dist-upgrad,e though, regardless of the kernel level, and rebooted, you shouldn't be seeing htat particular bug with 14.04 or later
[18:55] <Backwards> Good. Is your machine a 64 or 32 bit?
[18:55] <Bashing-om> SirSlippers: We want a confirmed install foundation .. in that boot menu is the option " check disk for defects" . choose it and what results after a period of time ?
[18:55] <nacc> apb1963: there's many options; evince, xpdf, etc
[18:56] <SirSlippers> Backwards: > its a 32 ... how do I tell if it installed this 14.4 to hard drive?
[18:56] <nacc> !pdf | apb1963
[18:56] <varaindemian> nacc: so unless I add ppas and the packages  I currently have don't issues I won't get updates, right?
[18:56] <OerHeks> Hulkie, VPS usually are heavily tweakes, ask your vendor for an update
[18:56] <apb1963> This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported, according to okular.
[18:56] <Backwards> Just reboot and you will know.
[18:56] <OerHeks> c/tweaked
[18:56] <apb1963> nacc: This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported, according to okular.
[18:57] <akik> apb1963: there's also foxit reader, also closed source
[18:57] <apb1963> nacc: evince, according to what I've read does not support XFA forms
[18:57] <Backwards> Also open up a terminal and type in ls -all
[18:58] <nacc> apb1963: ok, so you asked to read PDF files, what you emant was filling out XFA forms (for the future, ask the more precise question)
[18:58] <SirSlippers> Backwards:  > ok ... Windows lets you put in a disk and format the hard drive auuhghghg!!   It booted  back into V6.10  :-(
[18:58] <apb1963> nacc: sorry
[18:58] <nacc> apb1963: pdf edit seems to be somethjing some people use, but i'm not sure it's pacakaged
[18:59] <nacc> varaindemian: ppas are unrelated to getting updates, afaict
[18:59] <nacc> varaindemian: for released versions of Ubuntu, you'll get updates when bugs are fixed, etc
[18:59] <Backwards> If it is installed why format it?
[19:00] <varaindemian> nacc: hm then what are ppas?
[19:01] <nacc> !ppa | varaindemian
[19:01] <SirSlippers> Backwards:  < I wanta CLEAN install ... I used to be MSCE for Server 4 ... sloppy work is not my style!
[19:01] <Backwards> SirSlippers I have a 32 bit machine and installed Wily Ubuntu 15.10    The graphics are lousy. I run the box headless and SSH into the box.
[19:01] <SirSlippers> I have 4 diferent versions set up on here
[19:01] <nacc> varaindemian: i meant that having ppas enabled has nothing to do with the rate at which packages get updated, necessarily
[19:03] <SirSlippers> most of the packages I have don't work on Xubuntu 6.10  and there are other installs that were incomplete because of the problem with the monitor .. so I want to WIPE my hard drive and get a good clean install in there
[19:03] <Backwards> SirSlippers a nice thing to try with your Windows Box is Oracle VBOX. You can try different kernels of Ubuntu and see which one you like before installing on a dedicated box or just Run it Virtual Machine.
[19:04] <SirSlippers> I have XP Pro +SP3 on my windows computer ... (sigh) .. I'm TIRED of the WinDoZe bloat and have jumped ship to Linux ...
[19:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SirSlippers, ok and also XP for consumers and small businesses hasn't been supported with security updates since April 4th/6th 2014
[19:05] <SirSlippers> I actually jumped ship from Apply ][+ to MS-DOS 2.0 when they were dumping us too
[19:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SirSlippers, again unsupported software, so a good idea for the switch, but what's your issue with Ubuntu then?
[19:06] <SirSlippers> right .. doesn't mean it doesnt work!  just cause there's snow on the roof don't mean there aint no fire in the furnace!
[19:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[19:07] <SirSlippers> XP Pro has been a good friend for a decade now ... but its time has come ... Linux seems to be the way to go now  Apple is too expensive and too M$ now
[19:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah
[19:08] <tgm4883> !OT
[19:08] <nacc> heh
[19:08] <SirSlippers> OK .. so I did the  ls -all ... have total 100 and a bunch of lines
[19:09] <SirSlippers> I'm proud that I found out how to open a terminal and what to do in it  :-)  It wasn't explained anywhere
[19:10] <scrupul0us> hey all… any issues with apt repos? out of the blue on a fresh install of 14.04 I cannot install "libpq-dev" "E: Unable to locate package libpq-dev"
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> scrupul0us, things like that happen soetimes
[19:11] <nacc> scrupul0us: did you do an `apt update` to refresh?
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> says it can't find a package
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that it should be able to find
[19:11] <scrupul0us> i did update, upgrade
[19:11] <Backwards> SirSlippers you can still use XP Pro with your Linux box. There are two free softwares out there: One is WinSCP it is a GUI for Windows. The other is pUTTY    Both are free and I use them all of the time.
[19:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> might be an issue with the repos yes
[19:11] <Backwards> You don't need a Screen on your Ubuntu box if you use the above.
[19:11] <scrupul0us> okie, wasnt sure if it was a "known" issue at the moment… maybe they are being updated
[19:12] <apb1963> nacc: Thanks, I don't see a package for it.  The source code looks like a bit of a pain to compile as it needs various libraries and env variables set and that's when I doublechecked the authors site, wherein there is NO mention of XFA forms.  I would think that such a feature would be highlighted if supported.
[19:12] <ioria> !info libpq-dev trusty
[19:12] <OerHeks> !info libpq-dev trusty
[19:13] <SirSlippers> Backwards: > kewl!  I am a musician and want to use KXStudio on XUbuntu 14.4 ... there is SOUNDFONTS available in that package .. but I had to UPGRADE Linux 6.10 ... NOW I want to erase the hard drive and put in a CLEAN copy of Xububtu V14.4
[19:13] <scrupul0us> !info libpq-dev trusty
[19:14] <nacc> scrupul0us: just spun up a container (using archive.ubuntu.com as the repository) and the pacakge is installing fine (version 9.3.13-0ubuntu0.14.04)
[19:14] <apb1963> Does anyone know of a PDF reader that supports XFA forms on 14.04; or perhaps even 16.04 as I will upgrade for this?  I need to open Gov't produced documents and Okular doesn't support it.  I'm also running KDE so I don't think Evince is an option - although I've read it does not support XFA anyway.
[19:14] <nacc> SebthreeBQM10HD: that shouldn't happen often, unless your mirror is often out of date, I don't think
[19:15] <scrupul0us> @nacc: yeah I spun up a VM and it had no issue… just this one package though out of a bunch on a dedicated server … again fresh install
[19:15] <apb1963> I tried installing adobe reader... I ran into problems.
[19:15] <scrupul0us> digital ocean guys are seeing some issues due to apt as well
[19:15] <scrupul0us> they are west coast and im east coast
[19:15] <Backwards> SirSlippers I am a musician as well. Most of the latest stuff out there is 64 bit though. Especially with transit time or throughput or if you will   latency.
[19:15] <SirSlippers> Backwards:  > should I boot from the KXStudio DVD or from the Xubuntu 16.04 DVD ?
[19:16] <nacc> scrupul0us: dunno, works for me
[19:16] <ioria> up E coast
[19:16] <SirSlippers> ok .. should I try the 64 bit on here?>
[19:16] <scrupul0us> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:16] <debug0x1> Can't wait to go home and fsck
[19:16] <debug0x1> force it.
[19:16] <Backwards> SirSlippers join   #Backwards
[19:16] <debug0x1> unmount.
[19:17] <debug0x1> woo!
[19:17] <will8272> Hi guys, sexual inuendo apart, how do i log a bug in printing?
[19:17] <nacc> !bug | will8272
[19:17] <nacc> will8272: what bug did you find?
[19:19] <will8272> weird printing error, print to PDF from kicad and everything is there, but try to print that PDF and various bits disappear - like the pads, print-preview faithfully shows the error before the printer makes it solid
[19:19] <nacc> will8272: so does that imply (print preview showing the error) that the bug is actually in kicad?
[19:20] <will8272> nope, kicard isn't running by then, it happens between PDF viewer and the printer
[19:21] <nacc> will8272: oh the pdf print preview is what shows the error? so maybe the pdf viewer has a bug?
[19:21] <nacc> will8272: is it reproducible across multiple PDF viewers?
[19:21] <will8272> using diffrent PDF viewers doesn't seem to help, perhaps its a libray issue, but I don't know enough about the data flow to guess much more
[19:23] <nacc> will8272: well, i'd probably start with filing a bug against the viewer, maybe upload the PDF that prints incorrectly in the bug
[19:23] <varainde1ian> from time to time my internet connection drops
[19:24] <varainde1ian> it happened again
[19:24] <varainde1ian> what can I provide?
[19:24] <varainde1ian> I am running ubuntu 16.04
[19:26] <varainde1ian> should I provide dmesg?
[19:27] <will8272> nacc: I'll have a look at the link and see if I can figure out the bug tracker - cheers
[19:27] <nacc> will8272: np
[19:29] <varainde1ian> anybody can help me track this problem?
[19:30] <scrupul0us> spp apt-cache policy only has 3 entries in it on the server that has issues
[19:31] <scrupul0us> mp VPs instance has GOBS more
[19:31] <scrupul0us> so maybe apt needs a lil reset? ive done most of the stuff i found on google about it
[19:31] <nacc> scrupul0us: there shouldn't be 'gobs' of options for a given package in general ... doyou have lots of PPAs or redundant entries?
[19:32] <scrupul0us> http://pastebin.com/j9ZPmZtY
[19:32] <scrupul0us> there is the difference between the two
[19:33] <scrupul0us> my origins are all <IP_ADDRESS> on the dedicated which makes no sense
[19:33] <nacc> scrupul0us: well, yeah, they're using totally different archives
[19:33] <nacc> scrupul0us: and the dedicated only has main enabled (afaict), and not security updates (!!) or (-updates)
[19:35] <mymodels> slm
[19:35] <mymodels> varmı turkce bılen
[19:35] <nacc> !tr | mymodels
[19:35] <scrupul0us> @nacc: apt-get install unattended-upgrades ?
[19:36] <nacc> scrupul0us: hrm?
[19:36] <scrupul0us> how do i enable the security updates channel
[19:36] <nacc> scrupul0us: i think you'd edit /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* appropriately
[19:37] <scrupul0us> i duped the sources from the VPS and am updating apt now
[19:39] <nacc> scrupul0us: if i had to guess, your dedicated system's cobbler mirror was out of date; in the future, you might check `apt-cache policy libpq-dev` first, to see where it thinks it should be getting it from. But givenyou only had main, you would have missed, minimally, the security updates for that package
[19:40] <HloWrd> Anyone running Ubuntu on Surface Pro 3?
[19:40] <scrupul0us> that sort it… thanks for the support =)
[19:43] <spiderx> hello there
[19:46] <varaindemian> From time to time I loose internet connection. I am uisng 16.04
[19:47] <varaindemian> What can I provide to find out the problem?
[19:47] <varaindemian> I have to restart to regain connection. Loging ou doesn't work
[19:49] <varaindemian> anybody?
[19:54] <aruns> Hi.
[19:57] <aruns> Is there a recommended practice for installing NodeJS on Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:58] <yeahbaby> aruns: digitalocean have a lot of tutorials on it
[20:24] <superkuh> Stupid question, but, if I have yasm 0.8 from the Ubuntu repos and I've compiled yasm 1.2.0 from source should I remove the repo yasm 0.8 before building a deb with 1.2.0 and installing it?
[20:24] <reisio> really the package manager's job to tell you that
[20:25] <darkelfjuggalo> My Gateway Laptop NE56R41u has Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on it... for some reason after about a week of using the computer, either my Bootloader or the OS itself became corrupted... I used it, I closed the lid for the night without powering off, I went to bed... when i got up i opened the lid, the screen was pink but nothing responded, when I attempted to restart I got en error message that nothing was there. I have attempted a Fresh
[20:25] <superkuh> Guess I'll just leeroy jenkins it.
[20:25] <superkuh> checkinstall to build debs always seems to install the package regardless of weather --fstrans=no is set anyway.
[20:25] <kukur> hi
[20:26] <reisio> hi
[20:26] <kukur> can I run a command on remote server from local terminal if I have ssh access?
[20:26] <reisio> kukur: yup
[20:26] <kukur> reisio: how?
[20:26] <reisio> ssh in and run it, or ssh user@host 'command'
[20:27] <kukur> reisio: aah, but when I do ssh user@host , it changes terminal to the remote
[20:27] <reisio> what's wrong with that
[20:28] <fat-marty> Hi all.  I am considering purchase of Inspiron 5000, intend to replace Windows with 14.04.  How can I be certain that 14.04 will support the touch-screen BEFORE purchase lol. Is this the right place to ask this question?
[20:29] <kukur> reisio: well, I want to get backup of postgresql database ( I know the command) but for this I need to make ssh login everytime. I am willing to automate this in a small script. So this script will be on my local machine and whenever I need backup I run the script and it do backup for me
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> kukur: you can add a command at the end, if you just want it to run that and exit. for example, ssh user@box uptime
[20:29] <reisio> kukur: you want the backup on the remote?
[20:30] <kukur> SchrodingersScat: thanks, that seems working, any guide for that if there are some advance flags?
[20:30] <bekks> kukur: Run a cron job on your postgres server, and just transfer your backup after that. No need for ssh for creating the actual backup-
[20:30] <kukur> reisio: yes, but want to trigger that from local
[20:30] <reisio> kukur: why
[20:31] <SchrodingersScat> kukur: I rarely use ssh that way, not sure what pitfalls you might hit, I would think flags should be ok.
[20:31] <kukur> bekks: I need that on user's request without cron
[20:32] <reisio> so, what you've already been told will work, then
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> kukur: ansible is another option, but really more geared toward if you had multiple machines to run this on, probably overkill for one.
[20:33] <kukur> thanks
[20:33] <kukur> :)
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> yep, good luck
[20:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: How do I install ImDisk?
[20:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or where can I find it?
[20:35] <reisio> imdisk is more for win32 systems
[20:35] <reisio> if you type 'imdisk' into a search engine, you'll find it
[20:36] <TGVoid> reisio: I can use it to mount a ddrescue file to Windows, correct?
[20:36] <reisio> TGVoid: potentially
[20:36] <TGVoid> imdisk
[20:36] <reisio> why would you be using ddrescue and then Windows, though?
[20:36] <pennTeller> Hi guys, does anybody know if there is a way to resize the windows after you have resdized them using the monitor edge?
[20:37] <pennTeller> You know, sort of like windows or mac do it?
[20:37] <TGVoid> reisio: EriC^^ Was helping me earlier and told me to do that since my image wouldn't mount
[20:37] <pennTeller> Not that those OS's are anyting compared to ubuntu of course
[20:38] <tgm4883> pennTeller: not sure what you mean
[20:38] <reisio> TGVoid: image of what?
[20:38] <pennTeller> tgm4883: you know when you drag a window to the edge of your monito it takes exactly half the scren realstate?
[20:38] <TGVoid> reisio: It wouldn't mount to Ubuntu, and it's an image of an NTFS drive
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> pennTeller: like when you 'snap' a window to the edge? then try to maybe change the height?
[20:38] <pennTeller> yes snap!
[20:38] <anonym> https://www.facebook.com/IdiotNaDena/videos/464696727071630/
[20:39] <anonym> :))))
[20:39] <pennTeller> thats the word I was looking for lol
[20:39] <tgm4883> pennTeller: yep
[20:39] <pennTeller> ok so when you do that, you are kind of stuck with that size it seems
[20:39] <LostForgotten> I have a Computer I cannot log into, I want to reformat the device but I have a lot of personal files I do not want to lose, is there a way to install a Fresh version of Ubuntu without removing the existing files?
[20:39] <SchrodingersScat> pennTeller: hmm, can't help you, on xubuntu this seems to just work for me...
[20:39] <tgm4883> pennTeller: what DE? Unity?
[20:39] <pennTeller> oh I see, im using ubuntu GNOME
[20:39] <tgm4883> cause that works for me on Unity on 16.04
[20:39] <k1l_> anonym: please keep this channel supportonly
[20:40] <reisio> TGVoid: a ddrescue copy of an entire drive? You'll probably need to find the specific partition offsets to mount them
[20:40] <reisio> TGVoid: various howtos for that online
[20:40] <TGVoid> reisio: It's a copy of a single partition
[20:41] <TGVoid> reisio: I just want to rescue the files while keeping names and directories
[20:41] <SchrodingersScat> !password | LostForgotten, liveUSB would get you to the existing files, with some caveats that if the data is encrypted then you'll need to decrypt them
[20:42] <reisio> TGVoid: what does mount say when you try to mount it?
[20:47] <LostForgotten> SchrodingersScat: Password isn't my issue... the HDD ceases to boot. it was giving me an error saying there is nothing there, but the Partitions are still there...
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten: k, I would still go with booting into a LiveUSB to check, then recover whatever you need.
[20:48] <TGVoid> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18043869/
[20:48] <LostForgotten> Does that mean remake to stick with live image?
[20:49] <multifractal> I have libboost files of the form libboost_system.so.1.54.0 (i.e. suffixed with version number). But some C++ library I want to use is looking for "libboost_system.so". Should apt-get have installed symlinks?
[20:49] <multifractal> Is there any way to get them without manually making 35 or so symlinks?
[20:51] <LostForgotten> i am presently booted into this device through to USB Installer 'try out before installing' option
[20:51] <tgm4883> multifractal: did you install libboost-system1.54-dev ? That package seems to have those files
[20:52] <multifractal> I used "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends libboost-all-dev" from Caffe installation instructions, and also tried "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev"
[20:52] <hudnix> help I upgraded my nvidia graphics to a gtx 960 and now whenever I try to enable the nvidia driver the x server crashes at login. I tried purging and reinstalling the driver. The open source driver works, but the performance sucks.
[20:52] <tgm4883> multifractal: what's the output of "dpkg -l libboost-system1.58-dev"
[20:52] <reisio> TGVoid: 'sda' isn't likely a single partition; are you still saying it's an image of a single filesystem?
[20:53] <multifractal> tgm4883 No packages found. I think I have 1.54.0
[20:53] <tgm4883> multifractal: sorry, I meant
[20:53] <tgm4883> multifractal: what's the output of "dpkg -l libboost-system1.54-dev"
[20:54] <multifractal> tgm4883 lol oh ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/18053657/
[20:54] <tgm4883> multifractal: so that file you're looking for is in that package in trusty (I'm assuming you are on trusty based on the version) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=libboost_system.so
[20:55] <multifractal> tgm4883 yeah 14.04. So what should I do? apt-get remove something and apt-get install something else?
[20:56] <Grorco> I have a file on my desktop I can't delete because it says it doesn't exist...
[20:56] <tgm4883> multifractal: well you'll probably need to remove the symlinks you just made. No need to remove any packages, just install the package I just listed
[20:56] <TGVoid> reisio: It's an image of 1 partition of a corrupted hard drive from a Windows 10 laptop. I sent the laptop in for repair, so I no longer have the drive
[20:56] <Bashing-om> hudnix: Nvidia recpmmends the 367 version driver . What release are uou on ? and what returns : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[20:56] <tgm4883> Grorco: special name?
[20:57] <reisio> TGVoid: do you recall the command you ran to acquire teh image?
[20:57] <Grorco> logout.desktop.LLC1JY
[20:57] <multifractal> tgm4883 Oh OK, I deleted the symlinks. "sudo apt-get install libboost-system1.54-dev"?
[20:57] <tgm4883> multifractal: yep
[20:57] <tgm4883> Grorco: are you looking at it from the desktop, or from the terminal?
[20:57] <Grorco> tgm4883: From the desktop
[20:57] <tgm4883> Grorco: what's the output of "ls -l ~/Desktop"
[20:57] <reisio> TGVoid: anyway, there are two obvious possibilities: 1) it's an image of more than a single partition, and you'll have to tell 'mount' some offsets to mount a single partition within it, or 2) as it says, it is broken, you will have to use file recovery tools and cross your fingers
[20:57] <hudnix> Bashing-om: nvidia-361, amd64-microcode
[20:58] <multifractal> tgm4883 It installed, but no symlinks appeared. And the C++ code fails to compile at that include statement.
[20:58] <tgm4883> multifractal: interesting. Any errors during install?
[20:58] <Grorco> tgm4883: terminal doesn't show it
[20:58] <tgm4883> Grorco: does it show other files?
[20:59] <TGVoid> reisio: All I remember is that I used gddrescue
[20:59] <Bashing-om> hudnix: What release ? As last I looked .. 367 was only available for 16.04 + .
[20:59] <reisio> TGVoid: 1 or 2
[20:59] <reisio> TGVoid: those are your options
[20:59] <hudnix> Bashing-om: 16.04
[20:59] <Grorco> tgm4883: yes
[20:59] <Vlek> Hello, I'm trying to use some python scripts as aliases. I've read some conflicting stuff online about where I should put said files. Should I be able to put them in /usr/local/bin, restart my computer, and then be able to use them without any further configuration?
[20:59] <TGVoid> reisio: I say 2
[20:59] <tgm4883> Grorco: can you pastebin that output?
[21:00] <tgm4883> Grorco: actually, pastebin this
[21:00] <tgm4883> Grorco: what's the output of "ls -la ~/Desktop"
[21:00] <LostForgotten> i am loking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntuReinstallation and this outlines exactly what I want todo... unfortunately my installer only has 'Erase Ubuntu 16.04 LTS' and 'Something Else'
[21:00] <Bashing-om> hudnix: One can get the 367 version driver from our trusted PPA . Want to try it ?
[21:00] <hudnix> Bashing-om: I'll try anything :)
[21:00] <Grorco> tm4883: I've never used paste bin not sure how to
[21:00] <tgm4883> !pastebin | Grorco
[21:01] <reisio> TGVoid: 2 would suck, rule out 1 first
[21:01] <jatt> Vlek: yes it should work, many third party libraries do install python scripts in /usr/local/bin
[21:02] <multifractal> tgm4883 I tell a lie; i just didn't look at the C++ error carefully. Now there IS a symlink for libboost_system.so, but no symlink libboost_filesystem.so. So it's failing to compile that one.
[21:02] <TGVoid> reisio: Can you walk me through the process? I booted into Ubuntu.
[21:02] <Vlek> jatt, okay, I think I need to restart then because I've put the file in the location already, but the command isn't showing. Thanks.
[21:02] <multifractal> So it just made 1 symlink, but I need one for each of the libboost so's, right?
[21:02] <tgm4883> multifractal: progress, you need to install "libboost-filesystem1.54-dev"
[21:03] <Bashing-om> hudnix: ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt rm /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 ; sudo reboot ' . See what results when you come back up .
[21:03] <jatt> Vlek: no restart should be needed, do you have /usr/local/bin in your PATH environment variable?
[21:03] <reisio> TGVoid: https://major.io/2010/12/14/mounting-a-raw-partition-file-made-with-dd-or-dd_rescue-in-linux/
[21:03] <jatt> Vlek: also check whether the python script has the executable bit set
[21:03] <TGVoid> reisio: Thanks
[21:03] <Vlek> jatt, maybe? I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04
[21:03] <Grorco> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18054188/
[21:03] <Vlek> jatt do you mean a shebang with the python path?
[21:03] <tgm4883> multifractal: you can plug in file names to that site I linked and it will show you packages that have that file
[21:03] <multifractal> tgm4883 WOAH! it compiled! Hello world!
[21:04] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: not sure what you're looking at..."This page does not exist yet."
[21:04] <multifractal> tgm4883 thanks dued!
[21:04] <tgm4883> multifractal: yw
[21:04] <jatt> Vlek: no, for example I have the following script in /usr/local/bin:
 Vlek: yes it should work, many third party libraries do install python
[21:04] <jatt>        scripts in /usr/local/bin
 tgm4883 I tell a lie; i just didn't look at the C++ error
[21:04] <jatt>                carefully. Now there IS a symlink for libboost_system.so, but
[21:04] <jatt>                no symlink libboost_filesystem.so. So it's failing to compile
[21:05] <Vlek> Ha, whoops
[21:05] <reisio> np
[21:05] <tgm4883> Grorco: what's the output of "grep 'logout' ~/Desktop/*"
 multifractal: you can plug in file names to that site I linked and
[21:05] <jatt>           it will show you packages that have that file
[21:06] <Grorco> tgm4883: nothing
[21:06] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:07] <hudnix> Bashing-om: Thanks, trying it now
[21:07] <Grorco> tgm4883: http://imgur.com/IRRhacm
[21:07] <Bashing-om> hudnix: K :)
[21:08] <LostForgotten1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation  SchrodingersScat
[21:08] <Vlek> jatt, I think you miss-pasted. Could I see your script example?
[21:09] <Grorco> tgm4883: I added logout from the accessories menu to the desktop this came with it, I deleted logout but couldn't delete this file
[21:09] <tgm4883> Grorco: odd. How about this. Pastebin the output of "ls -la /usr/share/applications ~/.local/share/applications"
[21:09] <jatt> Vlek: seems I pasted a page of messages by mistake, my apologies
[21:09] <TGVoid> reisio: I think the 2 partitions might be the case. I see 2 "partitions" within the partition I copied
[21:09] <TGVoid> reisio: I believe I started saving it to another file, deleted the file, and continued on the original file while imaging the drive
[21:10] <jatt> Vlek: please check whether the script has the executable bit set, you can do it with ls -altr <full path of the script>
[21:10] <reisio> TGVoid: that'd be better than it just being a broken single partition
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: k, that link isn't describing anything magic, it's just that if you had a separate home partition then you could do a manual partitioning and not wipe out the home.
[21:11] <Grorco> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18054630/
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | LostForgotten1
[21:12] <Grorco> tgm4883: I'm going to try a restart and see if it fixes the problem, I'll be back in a minute
[21:12] <tgm4883> Grorco: ok
[21:14] <LostForgotten1>  SchrodingersScat: I didn't expect magic... I can't boot the OS, so I need to reinstall but I can't find that option to preserve it in the installer like I am used to... when i don't need it it is always there...the one time i do need it, i can't find it. and this Device was supposed to be the back up in the first place[I was turning it into a personal Cloud], but i accidentaly removed to contents from my scattered cloud serv
[21:14] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try "file /image"
[21:14] <Grorco> tgm4883: A restart took care of it :)
[21:14] <tgm4883> Grorco: ok cool
[21:15] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: well, you're not upgrading, so the first option on that page doesn't make sense, you can try the 'something else' and do the manual partitioning.
[21:15] <Grorco> tgm4883: I added logout to the desktop again and the bug didn't reproduce :) thanks for your help!
[21:16] <tgm4883> yw
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> LostForgotten1: oh, guess this is what you're getting at, "Be sure to keep the same format type, the same size, and untick the "Format" checkbox or all data on "/" will be deleted!."
[21:16] <LostForgotten1> the new installer is lubuntu and the option to install side by side isn't available either
[21:16] <TGVoid> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18054971/
[21:17] <EriC^^> TGVoid: looks like a ntfs partition
[21:19] <Vlek> jatt, I figured it out. I also had to chmod it as well.
[21:19] <TGVoid> reisio: What am I doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18055138/
[21:20] <jatt> Vlek: I see, once the bit is set should work without restart
[21:20] <slojanko> Hello, can anyone help me with running ubuntu from a usb? I've installed it but there's no usb option in boot menu
[21:23] <Grorco> I want to start trying to help with little bugs but I feel lost :( I used bazaar to get a local branch of software-properties and I don't understand where the code actually is...
[21:23] <reisio> slojanko: what about a boot order in bios config?
[21:23] <EriC^^> TGVoid: hate to be the bad news bearer but i think you need to do the imdisk chkdsk route
[21:23] <reisio> TGVoid: error?
[21:24] <slojanko> reisio: what are the chances of an install of ubuntu being 3.87 GB ?
[21:24] <Grorco> the file seems pretty empty, and the read-me from bzr says not to edit it directly
[21:24] <TGVoid> reisio: It shows me usage
[21:24] <slojanko> I just noticed it might not have installed at all but I wonder how the hell im booting from it then
[21:24] <reisio> slojanko: fairly decent I'd say
[21:24] <reisio> TGVoid: shows you what?
[21:24] <TGVoid> reisio: The usage
[21:24] <TGVoid> EriC^^: We're seeing if we can somehow mount it
[21:25] <reisio> it outputs "The usage"?
[21:25] <reisio> or something else?
[21:25] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you already tried
[21:25] <TGVoid> reisio: It shows the command usage, like the options of the command
[21:25] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you're currently seeing if you have actually the disk image not the partition image and using an offset to mount the partition further down in sectors in the disk image
[21:25] <pandasma> need help
[21:26] <EriC^^> TGVoid: if testdisk showed none as the partition table type at first then it's probably a partition image, also the file command shows the image to be a ntfs partition as well
[21:26] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I do have the partition image, but I think it split while I imaged it
[21:26] <EriC^^> split how?
[21:27] <EriC^^> maybe try cat image1 image2 > newimage
[21:27] <EriC^^> if you have the space
[21:27] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I ran DDrescue, paused it midway, changed the output file, paused, deleted the new output file, and put in the old output file and resumed.
[21:28] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you have 2 files right now?
[21:28] <reisio> TGVoid: then you're using the command wrong
[21:28] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No, one
[21:29] <Pazooza> How do you shut off sticky windows or stick borders or what ever it is?
[21:29] <EriC^^> so you wrote some of the output to a file that you deleted
[21:29] <TGVoid> reisio: How though? I don't see a problem. I multiplied the starting sector by 512 and used that as the offset like the guide told me
[21:29] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[21:29] <EriC^^> TGVoid: that could screw up the MFT i think that's at the end of the partition
[21:29] <k1l_> Pazooza: unity-tweak-tool can handle that
[21:30] <Pazooza> Ok
[21:30] <EriC^^> maybe the filesystem doesn't know where to look for the right stuff now
[21:31] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I stopped it near 1/4 of the way there
[21:31] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No more than 1/4
[21:31] <EriC^^> yeah but now the remaining stuff aren't aligned i guess
[21:32] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try chkdsk and see what happens i'd say
[21:33] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "command not found"
[21:33] <EriC^^> TGVoid: another option would be (kind of far fetched though) is to use testdisk to recover the deleted file or at least the size it had, and fill in the image you have with that amount of just zero's so it's aligned at the end where the mft is (i'm just guessing here)
[21:33] <Pazooza> Is that called window snapping, kil_?
[21:33] <reisio> TGVoid: mount -o loop,...
[21:34] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you have to run it from windows
[21:34] <hudnix> I now can't find the person who was helping me, but the new nvidia driver worked, thanks
[21:34] <reisio> if the FS is broken, possibly chkdsk from Windows will help; but if mount thinks it isn't even a partition, that won't help
[21:34] <EriC^^> TGVoid: where did you do the imaging?
[21:34] <TGVoid> reisio: "failed: Structure needs cleaning"
[21:34] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Ubuntu
[21:35] <reisio> TGVoid: okay, so it's probably broken in some way
[21:35] <EriC^^> TGVoid: where did you save the new output file you deleted?
[21:35] <TGVoid> EriC^^: On an external drive. I saved it about a month ago so it's probably gone
[21:35] <k1l_> Pazooza: yes
[21:36] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Deleted*
[21:36] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what kind of filesystem did it have?
[21:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The external drive? NTFD
[21:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: NTFS*
[21:37] <EriC^^> TGVoid: do you still have access to it?
[21:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes. It has my image on it
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok, try using testdisk to see if you can still see it there, don't write anything, just press "p" over the partition in the list and browse for the file
[21:38] <EriC^^> try to recover it with "c" or at least see if the size of the file is still there next to it
[21:39] <gpietro> hi guy last tiem i installed hibernate i couldnt boot after..i suspect because of the encrypted file system.
[21:39] <gpietro> I am running ubuntu 16.04...and i would like to install hiberante and use it hwo do i go about it?
[21:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There's nothing that isn't visible on the drive
[21:41] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ok
[21:47] <TGVoid> EriC^^: reisio What now?
[21:47] <reisio> dunno, what now?
[21:50] <TGVoid> reisio: EriC^^ Should I just use Testdisk and cross my fingers?
[21:50] <EriC^^> TGVoid: use it how?
[21:51] <TGVoid> EriC^^: To get my files out
[21:51] <EriC^^> yeah but how?
[21:51] <EriC^^> what feature
[21:53] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Using the Intel setting, quick searching, and then copying
[21:54] <EriC^^> TGVoid: that's supposed to search for lost partitions, to add them to the partition table or look for files in them
[21:54] <EriC^^> TGVoid: give it a shot i guess
[21:55] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try with "none" too
[21:55] <EriC^^> as you dont really have a partition table..
[21:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: maybe some ntfs specialized recovery tools might help?
[21:56] <TGVoid> EriC^^: With none it automatically displays NTFS. Viewing the files shows "can't open filesystem. Filesystem seems damaged."
[21:56] <EriC^^> TGVoid: type apt-cache search ntfs recovery
[21:56] <EriC^^> you'll get a list of some tools
[21:57] <arooni> is there software to automatically back up my content to AWS glacier?  ideally i'm looking for something similar to mac os' arq.  ideas?
[21:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: aha, that's what you want i guess, the "none"
[21:57] <apb1963> how can I install acroread?  The usual way (apt-get) fails.
[21:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try photorec
[21:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: photorec searches for file headers, it doesn't care about anything else, so it can recover files you give it the headers of
[21:58] <nacc> apb1963: i think it's mostly discontinued by adobe, but you'd get it from them
[21:58] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It won't keep names or directories though. A large amount of my files will be useless without names and directories
[21:58] <nacc> apb1963: i believe you can make it install on 14.04 and possibly even 16.04, but it's unsupported now
[21:58] <apb1963> nacc: so it's been removed from the repos
[21:58] <EriC^^> TGVoid: i'll be honest, having missing a middle part your odds are very slim
[21:58] <nacc> apb1963: it hasn't been in the repos since at least 12.04 according to rmadison
[21:59] <EriC^^> i'd photorec the living heck out of it and then try your luck with other stuff and chkdsk
[21:59] <nacc> apb1963: maybe it's been in some other repository than the main one?
[21:59] <apb1963> I don't know
[21:59] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Would writing the missing part with 0s work?
[21:59] <apb1963> All I know is I'm coming dangerously close to going back to Windows after avoiding it for over 25 years.
[21:59] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it could i guess
[22:00] <nacc> apb1963: why? for fillable PDF forms?
[22:00] <nacc> apb1963: complain to acrobat about that, it's a non-standard standard
[22:00] <apb1963> nacc: Uncle Sam says jump... I ask how high
[22:00] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Is it worth a shot?
[22:00] <randoking> Hi
[22:00] <arooni> i'm often connected to my home network; i'm wondering if theres also  a way to network mount a ubuntu ext4 drive so mac os x can see it; then i could just use arq which does it all for me
[22:00] <arooni> ?
[22:00] <EriC^^> TGVoid: you don't have which part is missing though
[22:00] <nacc> apb1963: there are hacky workarounds, from what I gather, but nothing other than acrobat on windows will do it properly, and even that not always :/
[22:00] <randoking> Anyone point me to PSAD support ?
[22:01] <nacc> arooni: network mount? do you mean export an ext4 drive over the network?
[22:01] <TGVoid> EriC^^: We do know when one part ends and the other starts
[22:01] <EriC^^> TGVoid: i'd try photorec first, then the other tools in that list, then chkdsk, chkdsk might still work (might)
[22:01] <bprompt> apb1963:     what do you need acrobat for anyway?
[22:01] <EriC^^> i think there's a backup mft at the end and one at the start i think, was the missing part 1/4 at the start or the last 1/4 ?
[22:01] <EriC^^> TGVoid: how do you know that?
[22:01] <arooni> nacc i'm not sure what you mean by export; but make it accessible on only a trusted network (my home network but not any other) via username/password ;  something like this
[22:01] <apb1963> nacc: I just realized I may be going about this wrong... I want to try and run it under wine
[22:02] <TGVoid> EriC^^:
[22:02] <TGVoid> EriC^^: fdisk -l
[22:02] <apb1963> bprompt: Because the gov't chooses to use XFA forms in its PDF files
[22:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: that just shows the 2 linux partitions testdisk recovered somehow even though it's just a ntfs partition
[22:03] <nacc> arooni: network mount usually means you have a network-visible filesystem and you are trying to mount it locally (and you wouldn't mention ext4 then, as that's not relevant to the clients mounting). I think what you are trying to do is serve a particular filesystem/directory over your local network?
[22:03] <nacc> arooni: mac and linux clients? or also windows?
[22:03] <arooni> nacc exactly!  but again i dont want it to be accessible on any network but my own
[22:03] <arooni> nacc in my case it only needs to work for a mac client
[22:03] <nacc> arooni: whether or not it's accessible is up to your network configuraion
[22:04] <EriC^^> TGVoid: hmm, there might be a way i guess
[22:04] <nacc> arooni: i believe macs can use NFS, that's probably what i'd do
[22:04] <nacc> !nfs | arooni
[22:04] <arooni> nacc well if i connect to a different wireless ap at a coffee shop or something i dont want my whole file system available
[22:04] <nacc> arooni: oh i see
[22:04] <arooni> nacc and i can use NFS without having to reformat the drive ubuntu si on
[22:04] <arooni> ?
[22:04] <arooni> is on
[22:05] <nacc> arooni: yes, it is a protocol, nothing to do with the fs contents itself
[22:05] <arooni> nacc what would your suggestion be to ensure that the NFS happens only on my local network
[22:05] <apb1963> hate it when they don't label buttons
[22:05] <nacc> arooni: i'm sure there is a way to do what you're suggesting, i'm not sure how though :)
[22:06] <arooni> got it
[22:06] <apb1963> arooni: What are you trying to do exactly?
[22:06] <nacc> arooni: how well-configured is your home network?
[22:06] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Would it work 100%
[22:07] <arooni> decently; its an impossible to remember long secured wpa2 password; and im in a residential neighborhood
[22:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: nevermind
[22:07] <nacc> arooni: i meant more hostnames, domain-name, etc. you can restrict nfs access by remote host information
[22:07] <Ben64> impossible to remember isn't good
[22:08] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It won't work?
[22:08] <arooni> naac ahh gotcha;  yeah i really only need to allow my mac mini's hostname to access it
[22:08] <TGVoid> Ben64: Hey! Thanks for your help that one day!
[22:08] <Loshki> arooni: it should be possible to configure the server to only answer requests from the local network
[22:09] <Ben64> TGVoid: np
[22:09] <arooni> Loshki is there a way to add username/password to it somehow so i can prevent hostname spoofing
[22:09] <nacc> Loshki: right, the issue is arooni's local netowrk can change (when they got to the cafe), etc.
[22:09] <nacc> arooni: i am 99% sure you can add auth layers to nfs
[22:10] <jge_> hey all, anyone know how to configure transmission with a proxy?
[22:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: it's pretty hard
[22:10] <arooni> well now at least i have a name of a tool
[22:10] <Loshki> arooni: gonna have to do the reading (sorry). https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-nfs-security.html
[22:10] <arooni> and an approach; more than i had before
[22:10] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try some of those tools in the list, maybe photorec first if you'd like
[22:10] <nacc> arooni: yeah, google around and i'm sure you'll find a guide, it might even be on the ubuntu wiki already, just ina  subsection
[22:10] <EriC^^> apt-cache search ntfs recovery
[22:11] <nacc> arooni: nfs has lots of options, etc.
[22:11]  * arooni wondering if its easier to set up to NFS or to figure out a client or way to auto backup contents of my ubuntu laptop to aws glacier (such as how arq does it on a mac)
[22:13] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try scrounge-ntfs it sounds promising
[22:14] <tgm4883> arooni: IDK what's available, but a long time ago there was a paid app that did that
[22:14] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I can't find a guide on it
[22:15] <EriC^^> TGVoid: http://thewalter.net/stef/software/scrounge/scrounge-ntfs.html
[22:16] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Thanks
[22:16] <EriC^^> np
[22:18] <junaid_> #launchpad
[22:21] <TGVoid> EriC^^: "invalid mft record"
[22:23] <EriC^^> TGVoid: did you run scrounge-ntfs -l first?
[22:23] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I thought that was for pre-corruption
[22:23] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I'll do that now
[22:24] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Same thing
[22:37] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Is there anything else we can do?
[22:38] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try photorec to get the important stuff
[22:39] <EriC^^> then try chkdsk
[22:39] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Hope is lost then
[22:39] <EriC^^> chkdsk still might work, i dont trust it though not to corrupt it more, that's why i'd use photorec first
[22:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I can try checkdisk, but the file names and directories are a necessity.
[22:40] <EriC^^> what data is it?
[22:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I have many servers that I really need
[22:40] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There are some videos that I can live without
[22:41] <EriC^^> virtualbox servers?
[22:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Minecraft servers
[22:41] <TGVoid> EriC^^: The servers have a few files with unique names
[22:42] <EriC^^> what about the important stuff, are they just a few files?
[22:43] <TGVoid> EriC^^: That is the important stuff IMO. I need the entire directory with the same file names in order for them to function
[22:44] <EriC^^> oh
[22:45] <TGVoid> EriC^^: So photorec is the only option?
[22:46] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Or is there a slim chance that Testdisk will work?
[22:46] <EriC^^> it might i guess
[22:46] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Is it risky?
[22:48] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try advanced below analyze
[22:48] <EriC^^> see if there's any repair mft option
[22:49] <EriC^^> or any options it has
[22:49] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Intel or none?
[22:49] <EriC^^> none
[22:50] <TGVoid> There's type and boot
[22:50] <TGVoid> The other ones are useless
[22:50] <TGVoid> EriC^^: ^^
[22:50] <computer> people, i am trying to install a program through sudo apt-get and it seems i already have it, but i cannot execute it, i get permission denied, how can i by pass this?
[22:50] <computer> or actualy i get command not found
[22:51] <TGVoid> computer: If it says "permission denied" use sudo before the command
[22:51] <OerHeks> computer, more details please, what ubuntu, what program?
[22:52] <computer> TGVoid: OerHeks i already used sudo
[22:52] <k1l_> computer: what error exactly? what program do you try?
[22:52] <computer> k1l_: ok i will paste it
[22:52] <k1l_> !paste | computer
[22:53] <TGVoid> computer: Welp.... there goes my knowledge on Ubuntu
[22:53] <TGVoid> computer: Good luck finding your solution!
[22:53] <OerHeks> maybe sudo is the culprit, lets see
[22:53] <EriC^^> TGVoid: go to boot
[22:54] <TGVoid> EriC^^: There's Org., Backup, and Rebuild BS
[22:54] <EriC^^> TGVoid: any repair mft?
[22:54] <EriC^^> (dont try it yet)
[22:54] <TGVoid> EriC^^: No
[22:54] <Bray90820> Is there a way I can list the device names for my bluetooth devices
[22:55] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what does org have?
[22:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Copy boot sector over backup sector
[22:55] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I didn't select it
[22:55] <computer> TGVoid: k1l_ OerHeks https://da.gd/1MPB
[22:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: any rebuild bs?
[22:57] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Yes
[22:57] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try it, dont commit to any changes though
[22:57] <k1l_> computer: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[22:58] <OerHeks> computer, is /work in your root? .. odd to use fedorapaste indeed?
[22:58] <computer> raspian k1l_
[22:58] <computer> OerHeks: yes
[22:58] <k1l_> computer: so please ask in #raspbian since its not even using ubuntu as base
[22:59] <OerHeks> maybe run a decent upgrade first.
[22:59] <computer> OerHeks: i upgraded
[23:03] <EriC^^> TGVoid: scrounge-ntfs seems a little promising
[23:03] <TGVoid> EriC^^: It didn't work
[23:05] <EriC^^> TGVoid: scrounge-ntfs or the backup bs?
[23:05] <Bray90820> Is there a way to slow down the pointer speed to less than what system setting will allow
[23:05] <EriC^^> *rebuild bs
[23:06] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Scrounge. It said invalid MFT record
[23:06] <Bray90820> Bluetooth mouse btw
[23:06] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what happened when you tried scrounge-ntfs -l /path/to/image ?
[23:06] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Scrounge. It yelled out invalid MFT record
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> so who has steam working in ubuntu 16.04
[23:07] <EriC^^> did it mention the start and end sectors and cluster size?
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> I need help
[23:07] <EriC^^> TGVoid: ^
[23:07] <Valkyrie115> If someone could pm me I'd be great
[23:07] <TGVoid> EriC^^: I put in the start and end
[23:08] <Valkyrie115> Because steam seems to just be crashing
[23:08] <Valkyrie115> If not possible I accept it
[23:09] <k1l_> !details | Valkyrie115
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> well
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> I'll say what I did step by step then lol
[23:09] <EriC^^> TGVoid: try with -m 6291457
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> I typed in apt-get install steam-launcher
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> with sudo
[23:09] <Valkyrie115> but
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> Steam keeps crashing
[23:10] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: with what error?
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> That's all my issue consists of
[23:10] <tgm4883> !details | Valkyrie115
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> no error
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> ....
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> when I click on the program
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> it crashes
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> that's the error
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> it literally won't open
[23:10] <Valkyrie115> I see no error
[23:10] <OerHeks> do you start steamlauncher with sudo too?
[23:11] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Should I wait for Testdisk before I do anything else?
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> Jesus Christ
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> So you have to open it with terminal
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> are you serious
[23:11] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: no
[23:11] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: and could you please reduce the enter usage? thanks.
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> If that's the case I'll just install Windows 10
[23:11] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:12] <OerHeks> Valkyrie115, no, missed you click sentences
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> I'm sorry if my enter usage is triggering to you
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> :)
[23:12] <nacc> !info steam-launcher xenial
[23:12] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: what package did you install exactly? and what are you starting?
[23:12] <nacc> Valkyrie115: so you're using a ppa?
[23:12] <EriC^^> TGVoid: yeah
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> kill_: sorry what
[23:12] <k1l_> because there is no package like you said. so something is wrong. and we asked to be precise.
[23:12] <nacc> Valkyrie115: i've run steam on 16.04 fine
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> nacc: no
[23:12] <EriC^^> TGVoid: what is testdisk still doing?
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> God
[23:12] <Valkyrie115> could someone pm me
[23:13] <nacc> Valkyrie115: `apt-get install steam-launcher` returns an error on 16.04, as no such package exist.
[23:13] <nacc> *exists
[23:13] <TGVoid> EriC^^: Search mft
[23:13] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: nobody is going to PM you.  But that's ok.
[23:14] <Valkyrie115> no
[23:15] <Valkyrie115> this is stupid
[23:15] <Valkyrie115> no offense
[23:15] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: would be helping if you could concentrate for 5 minutes.
[23:15] <Valkyrie115> but
[23:15] <nacc> Valkyrie115: please run: 'apt-cache policy steam-launcher'
[23:15] <nacc> Valkyrie115: and pastebin the output
[23:15] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: and don't use enter for punctuation
[23:16] <Valkyrie115> wow
[23:16] <Valkyrie115> whatever
[23:16] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: wow what?
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> Kill I'm talking to tmg at the moment about my problem
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> thanks
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> so for the first time with ubuntu I'm unable to hear sound
[23:17] <Valkyrie115> whatsoever
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> I have yet to find out what's up with that
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> and what other drivers weren't installed
[23:18] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, so how about we tackle one issue at a time
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:18] <Valkyrie115> can we tackle the sound one first
[23:19] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: also, keep in mind that lots of people in this channel can help you
[23:19] <Valkyrie115> I'm open to anyone helping me
[23:19] <Valkyrie115> BUT
[23:19] <Valkyrie115> I'm unable to read what everyone is saying at once
[23:20] <Valkyrie115> Please try to understand that this is frustrating from an entry users perspective
[23:20] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: I understand that. Please understand that everyone in this channel is a volunteer
[23:20] <Valkyrie115> I know?
[23:21] <Valkyrie115> I'm not trying to be rude to anyone
[23:21] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: If you'd like to be more demanding, there is paid support for that. Nobody here needs you to be rude to them
[23:21] <Bray90820> Is there a way to slow down the pointer speed of my bluetooth mouse to less than what system setting will allow
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: so why don't you post the output of 'lspci'
[23:22] <tgm4883> !pastebin | Valkyrie115
[23:22] <Valkyrie115> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKYzrU8qc7w
[23:22] <Valkyrie115> would this help
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: no
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: for multiple reasons
[23:22] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: 1) You wanted to work on your sound issue first
[23:23] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:23] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: 2) That is installing the windows version of steam
[23:23] <Valkyrie115> so what's the command again
[23:23] <tgm4883> lspci
[23:23] <Valkyrie115> I see
[23:24] <Valkyrie115> so just enter lspci
[23:24] <tgm4883> I've not troubleshot a sound issue in a long time, so if anyone wants to pipe up that would be great
[23:24] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, now you are going to copy that output to a pastebin
[23:24] <tgm4883> !pastebin | Valkyrie115
[23:24] <Valkyrie115> okiedokie
[23:24] <Valkyrie115> I don't recall what the command was though
[23:25] <Valkyrie115> So I can't
[23:25] <Sik> Hey, I'm on 14.04 and want to update to 16.04 but the wi-fi connection is trash (as in sometimes I can't trust it to stay connected for more than 5 minutes :D), what's the safest way to upgrade this computer without risking it becoming unusable because wi-fi dies? :/
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, do this
[23:25] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | Sik: first of all,
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: 'lspci | nc termbin.com 9999'
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: that will give you a link
[23:25] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: which you need to paste here
[23:25] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:25] <Sik> well ok thanks for that (　・・) I still need to come up with suggestions over the wi-fi thing, anyway (even if for later) any ideas?
[23:26] <nacc> Sik: can you get wired? you shouldn't need the wireless during the upgrade itself
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> so this is steams **** up this is clear
[23:26] <nacc> Sik: i would think it would d/l the set of packages first, before initiating the upgrade
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> I need the apt-get install command
[23:26]  * tgm4883 sighs
[23:26] <Sik> Living in a hotel and the router isn't mine, so no :/ (otherwise I'd go wired all the way)
[23:26] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: why? You wanted to work on the sound issue
[23:26]  * Valkyrie115 sighs as well
[23:26] <nacc> Sik: if your connection is really that inconsistent, then it might just take a bunch of resumptions
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> well this whole thing is a cluster
[23:26] <Valkyrie115> wouldn't you say
[23:27] <Ben64> pick one issue and work on it
[23:27] <Sik> ...right I think it downloads everything first, but does anything happen if that gets interrupted? (　・・) Also I was wondering about the minimal installer in case the standard one fails
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> Tons of missing drivers and I'm regretting installing ubuntu
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> Honestly
[23:27] <Sik> But I guess you have a point
[23:27] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: IDK, I'm playing Kerbal Space Program on  steam on my second monitor right now
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> Yeah
[23:27] <Valkyrie115> When I had Windows all the drivers were installed but that's too much to ask
[23:27] <speed_> i am having troubble with ubuntu 14.04 using the Nvidia GTX 960 ever since i got that card i cant log into a GUI
[23:28] <Ben64> Valkyrie115: pick one problem, explain the problem, wait for response, paste what people ask for, get the help, done
[23:28] <noobwithaquestio> Hello. So I recently installed 16.04 and after fighting with drivers for my 980Ti I finally got everything to boot after setting my boot to Text Mode. I was eble to decrypt and everything was fine. However, when I try to restart I watch the text mode start and then it stops at a line similar to "Power Button registered as temperature point" and I have no idea what the issue may be. Can anyone help? I can boot in via GRUB an
[23:28] <Valkyrie115> There are loads of problems with my computer right now including display ones so
[23:28] <Valkyrie115> I guess I'll go with the Steam issue first
[23:28] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: you sure?
[23:28] <Valkyrie115> Yeah
[23:28] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, steam it is
[23:29] <Valkyrie115> While I have a million issues
[23:29] <ruizgatti> ola
[23:29] <Valkyrie115> so what do I enter in for Steam to install
[23:30] <ruizgatti> hola!!
[23:30] <pauljw> !es | ruizgatti
[23:30] <speed_> i dont know how to get into a command shell iether
 Valkyrie115: please pastebin `apt-cache policy steam-launcher`
[23:30] <ruizgatti> ok
[23:30] <pauljw> :)
[23:31] <apb1963> Ben64: core dumps
[23:31] <speed_> well, in advanced options for ubuntu i can but i cant do apt-get commands there
[23:31] <Ben64> speed_: ??
[23:31] <speed_> im trying to see if i can purge the nvidia drivers from my system to get it to login
[23:32] <speed_> but i need shell acess to do that
[23:32] <Ben64> speed_: what do you mean you can't do apt-get
[23:32] <nacc> speed_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263316 ?
[23:32] <Valkyrie115> pastebin/XY0HHejt
[23:32] <Valkyrie115> that's what I see
[23:32] <Valkyrie115> pastebin.com/XY0HHejt
[23:32] <speed_> but i cant login
[23:33] <Valkyrie115> tgm4883: are you there
[23:33] <speed_> i cant get to terminal, and idk how to get past the login screen to get  shell acess
[23:33] <nacc> Valkyrie115: right, so you used some external source for steam, whichi s not necessary in 16.04
[23:33] <nacc> Valkyrie115: well, hasn't been necessary since 14.04 (afaict)
[23:33] <Ben64> speed_: use recovery mode
[23:33] <nacc> !info steam xenial
[23:34] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:34] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: do this "dpkg -l | grep steam | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:34] <Valkyrie115> I'm a newbie to this whole ubuntu thing lol
[23:34] <nacc> speed_: if you're at the login screen, you could also drop to the sheell (ctrl+alt+f1)
[23:34] <apb1963> Ben64: my /tmp has several core dumps, all in all totaling 9.5G.  I guess I can delete them.
[23:34] <speed_> ah
[23:35] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: that's ok. Open a terminal and type (or copy and paste) that all in
[23:35] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/m3hp
[23:35] <Valkyrie115> m4hp *
[23:36] <apb1963> Ben64: but that brings up an interesting question... what happens the next time something dumps core if I have a RAM disk that's too small to hold it?  Probably just not get a core dump if there's no room to hold it yes?
[23:36] <Ben64> apb1963: i suppose. how big is each one?
[23:36] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, so then lets do this. Lets remove that package "sudo apt remove steam-launcher"
[23:37] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: then lets do this. 'ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999'
[23:37] <apb1963> Ben64: they vary... the largest is 4.3G
[23:37] <Ben64> apb1963: ew
[23:37] <apb1963> Ben64: yeah
[23:38] <Valkyrie115> okay
[23:38] <Valkyrie115> one sec
[23:38] <apb1963> Ben64: probably firefox if I had to guess
[23:39] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/kbyn
[23:40] <Ben64> feb 10 2014?
[23:40] <Ben64> Valkyrie115: this is a new install? ubuntu 16.04?
[23:40] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok do this "lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:40] <Valkyrie115> Yes Ben64
[23:40] <Valkyrie115> -_-
[23:40] <tgm4883> Ben64: It wouldn't surprise me if valve was doing something dumb there
[23:40] <Ben64> oh maybe
[23:41] <tgm4883> Ben64: they probably ship the file and place it there rather than write a new file
[23:41] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/bfcc
[23:41] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok perfect
[23:42] <tgm4883> So lets do this
[23:42] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list"
[23:42] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: then do "sudo apt update"
[23:42] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: let me know when that is done
[23:42] <Valkyrie115> "cannot remove
[23:43] <Valkyrie115> Done
[23:44] <Ben64> Valkyrie115: whats the cannot remove thing?
[23:44]  * Valkyrie115 sighs
[23:44] <Valkyrie115> it can't remove the source
[23:44] <Ben64> did you use sudo
[23:44] <Valkyrie115> I'm sorry but I think I possibly might go with Windows if I can't get this working
[23:45] <Ben64> you can if you follow the steps
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> I know people are trying to help but my keyboard isn't even fully working
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> so
[23:45] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: If you're going to threaten to do that, then do it. It's literally no skin off my nose whether you use Ubuntu or not
[23:45] <mistiry> help plz...ubuntu 16 LTS installs php7, i need to install php-devel but cannot for the life of me FIND it....
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> There's about 10 thing wrong right now
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> I'm not making threats
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> This is lierally frustrating to an entry user
[23:45] <nacc> mistiry: do you mean php-dev?
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> literally *
[23:45] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ok, and?
[23:45] <Valkyrie115> and
[23:46] <Valkyrie115> this doesn't happen with mac os x or windows
[23:46] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: oh that's a good one
[23:46] <Ben64> k bye
[23:46] <mistiry> nacc: JFC. yes. im a RHEL guy, its php-devel there. im an idiot - thank you!
[23:46]  * tgm4883 writes that one down for open mic knight
[23:46] <nacc> Valkyrie115: and you're being helped, but it's not obvious you're doing exactly what is being asked in order to fix the issues (sudo wouldn't have said cannot remove)
[23:46] <Ben64> he left
[23:46] <nacc> fair enough
[23:47] <tgm4883> I swear I'm trying to help people today
[23:47] <OerHeks>  php7.0-dev
[23:47] <Ben64> !cookie | tgm4883
[23:47] <OerHeks> oh
[23:47] <tgm4883> nom nom nom
[23:47] <nacc> OerHeks: yep, although i would recommend php-dev instead (better on upgrade paths/future-proof)
[23:47] <nacc> OerHeks: as 7.1 will be present someday, and php-dev will dtrt for upgrades there
[23:48] <Valkyrie115> Is there at least something I can install to make the drivers properly install without lines of terminal commands
[23:48] <Valkyrie115> If not please tell me
[23:48] <Valkyrie115> I'll remove this and leave you guys alone
[23:49] <k1l_> Valkyrie115: we suggest using terminal commands in here since they provide proper errormessages and so we know what is going on.
[23:49] <scrupul0usOTG> hey all, ive setup an ipv6 address on em1… iface em1 inet6 static… when i restart the network, ifconfig shows an ipv6 address that appears to be autoconfig assigned much like centos does… how can i force the interface to have the static address i set in /etc/network/interfaces… ipv6 networking does work though but i dont want a random address on the interface… thnks
[23:49] <gin> Valkyrie115, you can install proprierity drivers from software sources I think
[23:49] <Valkyrie115> I've tried
[23:49] <Valkyrie115> Thanks for the suggestion though
[23:49] <Valkyrie115> I had sound driver issues in Windows 10 as well
[23:49] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[23:50] <gin> Valkyrie115, Sound issues? Whats your sound card?
[23:50] <opreapetrutalexa> salut
[23:50] <nacc> tgm4883: probably time to get that lspci :)
[23:50] <Valkyrie115> OerHeks: nothing was updated
[23:50] <Valkyrie115> lol
[23:51] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: can you give us the output of "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:51] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: that will show us a listing of some of your hardware
[23:51] <Tin__man> bout to give me a headache, and I'm just reading..
[23:51] <Valkyrie115> termbin.com/df8e
[23:52] <OerHeks> oh, radeon
[23:53] <tgm4883> OerHeks: yea, but should be supported OOTB I think
[23:54] <Valkyrie115> so I'm guessing this isn't fixable
[23:54] <veronica__> wifi is hard blocked
[23:54] <veronica__> please help
[23:54] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: well you seem to be back on sound now
[23:54] <scrupul0usOTG> i did try this: http://superuser.com/questions/33196/how-to-disable-autoconfiguration-on-ipv6-in-linux
[23:54] <scrupul0usOTG> no luck
[23:54] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: which means you've jumped to another issue AGAIN
[23:54] <Valkyrie115> one sec
[23:54] <aaaaaaaaaa> hello
[23:54] <Valkyrie115> I'm going to play a youtube video
[23:54] <gin> Valkyrie115, it most likely is, may I ask how you connected your speakers, via 3.5mm plug, or integrated hdmi?
[23:55] <aaaaaaaaaa> whats the easiest way to append a png header to a png file whose header was removed?
[23:55] <Valkyrie115> nope
[23:55] <Valkyrie115> no sound
[23:55] <Valkyrie115> This whole thing has been an issue
[23:55] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: what laptop is this?
[23:56] <Valkyrie115> Desktop
[23:56] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: ah ok
[23:56] <Valkyrie115> and a p7 1154
[23:56] <Valkyrie115> It's an HP Desktop
[23:56] <tgm4883> Valkyrie115: so do you want to work through these issues or not
[23:57] <Valkyrie115> Honestly will probably revert back to Windows 8
[23:57] <Valkyrie115> Sorry
[23:58] <Guest1663> 한국사람 있나요?
[23:59] <tgm4883> !ko | Guest3885
[23:59] <irregular> hi guys, I have this duplicated code for 2 functions, is there a way I can abstract some of it to make it look nicer? http://pastebin.com/VkbP7vFU
[23:59] <irregular> ops wrong channel, ignore me!!