[14:59] <linkleonard> i'm having trouble finding the core dump output file for a phantomjs process I'm running
[15:01] <frib> ioria: I tried to fix grub via that link you sent me, with chroot, but it didn't work :(
[15:02] <frib> i'm still getting GPT partition without BIOS boot something or other
[15:02] <frib> but this time confirmed existence of /sys/firmware/efi (I am in ubuntu 16.0 persistent usb)
[15:03] <ioria> frib, and when you boot in efi mode, you get the the grub shell ?
[15:03] <frib> tried boot-repair and it is currently hanging at Purge kernels then reinstall last kernel sda3 for about 30 min now
[15:03] <cappe_> --> is this correct?? (last time I will ask you anything about this)...I'd like a comparison with your md5sum of the file...
[15:03] <cappe_> cappe@silver:~$ md5sum /usr/bin/ssh
[15:03] <cappe_> aa2b9fa63ec08e1b0d914bb21a73bf98  /usr/bin/ssh
[15:03] <frib> ioria: if I try to boot in efi mode directly into my main ubuntu installation I get grub cli
[15:03] <frib> ioria: I don't know how efi works though, maybe I Could select a specific efi file to boot the OS and skip grub ?
[15:05] <ioria> frib,  the files are grubx64.efi and shimx64.efi for secure boot ...
[15:05] <ioria> frib,  but  i'd boot again from live
[15:05] <frib> ioria: i am in live right now
[15:05] <ioria> frib,  you mounted your / under /mnt ?
[15:06] <frib> ioria: yes and then boot partition under /mnt/boot as it said
[15:06] <frib> then /dev, /dev/pts and the rest
[15:06] <frib> when i tried to run grub-install is when things went wrong
[15:06] <ioria> frib,  try sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/boot/efi    not just /mnt/boot
[15:07] <frib> for the boot partition?
[15:07] <frib> yea i think the error had something to do with an efi folder
[15:07] <ash_workz> k1l_: may I ask what country you're from?
[15:07] <cappe_> also I happened to notice that my --> cappe@silver$ last crash <-- was empty (which was when I got infected) --- someone is trying to remove the evidence of hacking me.
[15:07] <frib> ioria: right now boot-repair is still hanging on trying to replace kernels though ... shoudl I kill it?
[15:08] <ioria> frib,  never used that, sorry idk
[15:09] <ioria> frib brb
[15:11] <dbz2k> is it possible to firefox beta and stable together?
[15:12] <shyyyyy> what can i do when i try to update my computer in linux ubuntu 15.04
[15:12] <shyyyyy> i see : failed to start load kernel modules
[15:15] <shyyyyy> ho
[15:17] <k1l_> shyyyyy: 15.04 is dead already. you need to upgrade to 15.10 at least
[15:19] <ioria> frib how you doing ?
[15:20] <shyyyyy> k1l : Did I can do on the GUB
[15:26] <caspie> =/
[15:26] <caspie> your mean
[15:34] <k1l_> shyyyyy: ? can you boot to ubuntu?
[15:35] <shyyyyy> yep
[15:36] <k1l_> shyyyyy: then run the update-manager there. it should prompt you for the upgrade to 15.10
[15:37] <frib> ioria: this time I Was able to install grub-efi-amd64 in chroot on my main partition, but the PC still doesn't go to it by default and now when I Select my ubuntu partition from the "boot from efi file" option it just restarts the pc and goes to UEFI options.
[15:37] <frib> i think it was  kernel panic, but maybe not
[15:39] <ioria> frib  did you run grub-install /dev/sda in charoot without errors ?
[15:40] <frib> ioria: i ran apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64, as described in the link
[15:41] <frib> ioria: i can try your command too
[15:41] <ioria> frib  are you on live right now ?
[15:42] <_AxS_> frib: that --reinstall installs grub from the package into the filesystem, but doesn't necessarily set it up into the bootloader the way 'grub-install' does (assumption, i'm not an ubuntu user)
[15:42] <frib> ioria: yea
[15:43] <frib> ioria: still in chroot too i think
[15:43] <ioria> frib  let me see if Eric^^ is on ...   Eric^^ ???
[15:43] <vincent_LP>  Does anyone familiar with pthread? I'm confused by a tutorial question, and finally I found it originally comes from here: https://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/pthreads/samples/condvar.c
[15:44] <vincent_LP> In the source code, the statement "count += 125;" is quite strange to me...
[15:44] <frib> ioria: ok i did grub-install /dev/sda no errors, for x86-64 efi platform
[15:44] <ampburner> hi guys, am having issues with ./configure. I get (bash: ./configure: No file) http://pastebin.com/Am42SvDC
[15:44] <frib> but update grub doesn't seem to find any OS's
[15:44] <nacc> vincent_LP: maybe better asked in a programming channel
[15:45] <ioria> frib  did you install windows in bios mode, for any chance ?
[15:45] <vincent_LP> nacc: ah, okay you are right.
[15:45] <nacc> vincent_LP: does seem like a typo though :-P
[15:46] <vincent_LP> nacc: thanks for your correction, my bad English
[15:47] <frib> ioria: i'm like 99% sure I didn't
[15:47] <nacc> vincent_LP: nothing bad about it :)
[15:47] <frib> as I said, on several attempts it wouldn't let me install precisely because the disk is GPT partitioned
[15:47] <frib> finally when I made  "UEFI usb" with a windows program called "rufus" it finally let me install WIn7, no complaining about GPT so I assume it was EFI -- there is other evidence too
[15:47] <ioria> frib  can you put sudo update-grun in a pastebinit ?
[15:48] <frib> ioria: sure
[15:48] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17327866/
[15:49] <ioria> frib  it's all ?
[15:49] <frib> ioria: same thing i said
[15:49] <hggdh> ampburner: the error is clear: there is no ./configure, or it is not eXecutable. If you downloaded source code from somewhere, it may be you need to do something else before trying to configure and make. There should be a file explaining what to do
[15:49] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: count += 125 means increment 125 to count.
[15:49] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: ie its the same as count = count + 125
[15:50] <frib> ioria: when I did update-grub on my legacy ubuntu usb it detected the ubuntu installation and the windows 7 too, some how this update-grub for efi doesn't detct anything
[15:50] <vincent_LP> _AxS_: hi, yes, you are right, but I want to know why it is necessary here?
[15:50] <_AxS_> ampburner: run autoreconf --force --install  and then you should get a ./configure generated
[15:50] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: it's necessary because that worker thread's job is to increase count.
[15:51] <ioria> frib  when you install win after ubu, win overwrites the mbr and put in it it's booloader
[15:51] <ioria> its
[15:51] <frib> ioria: yeah that much I know
[15:51] <frib> ioria: but the MBR is still not overwritten by ubuntu after all i've done
[15:52] <ioria> frib you can try again, exit from chroot and reboot
[15:52] <frib> ioria: ok
[15:52] <frib> brb
[15:53] <vincent_LP> _AxS_: the statement is in watcher thread, why the watcher needs to increase 125, what's the meaning?
[15:53] <cesdo> Hi all. Anybody bought Fluendo DVD Player?
[15:54] <ioria2> frib, _
[15:55] <BetaSoul> Okay, Hi Guys. Got a likely easy one. Trying to get  Centrino Wireless-N 2230 working under server.
[15:55] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> something is wrong with dd on ubuntu, for example whenever I press the tab button it removes the if or of operands!
[15:56] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: likely just because that way if there's any issue with the incrementing thread, -something- will cause count to increment and prevent an infinite loop.
[15:56] <cesdo> Yesterday I tried to play DVD's with VLC. 75% stopped in the middle. Maybe Fluendo works better)
[15:56] <rat0r> CPU(s)~2 Single core Intel Xeon CPU E5-2630L 0s (-HT-SMP-) clocked at 2000.074 Mhz Kernel~2.6.32-openvz-042stab113.17-amd64 x86_64 Up~32 days Mem~246.2/512.0MB HDD~NA(-) Procs~31 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.9.17
[15:56] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> is this distro specific changes or what?
[15:56] <_AxS_> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: that would be your shell, not 'dd'
[15:57] <BetaSoul> No love?
[15:57] <_AxS_> LJHSLDJHSDLJH:  i had a similar issue with systemrescuecd yesterday, actually..  didn't spend any time figuring it out though.
[15:57] <frib_> ioria: back, no luck, also windows 7 is broken (crashes during boot) but I Don't care! :)
[15:57] <frib_> ioria: I'm almost at the point of backing up my data and just reinstalling everything from scratch
[15:58] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: what's lspci report it as?
[15:58] <ioria> frib_, we try again ... sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[15:58] <BetaSoul> _AxS_,  Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4)
[15:58] <EriC^^> ioria: hi
[15:59] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: lspci -k , does that show a kernel module being used with it?
[15:59] <ioria> Eric^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[15:59] <vincent_LP> _AxS_: emm, yes I got the same answer from my teacher, but I still can't figure out what kind of issues could happen, and how the statement could resolve the issue...
[15:59] <EriC^^> ioria: what's the problem? my scrollback doesn't go back that far..
[15:59] <BetaSoul> _AxS_, Kernel modules: iwlwifi
[15:59] <brunch875> Hello, I've enabled dash online search but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Is it broken? Is there a way to enable it manually?
[15:59] <ioria> Eric^^   can you assist frib_ , grub issue .... after installing win7 http://paste.ubuntu.com/17323366/
[15:59] <spodermen_sweg> Hi bros
[16:00] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: ok good.  if you chech dmesg are there any errors related to iwlwifi?
[16:00] <nacc> BetaSoul: dmesg | pastebinit (or examine yourself if you know how)
[16:00] <EriC^^> frib_: you installed windows after ubuntu?
[16:00] <frib_> EriC^^: i tried to install windows 7 after ubuntu (was obligated in order to flash my phone) and i believe they are both "EFI" installations but after installing win7 ubuntu would not boot by default
[16:00] <_AxS_> dmesg |grep -C 5 -i iwlwifi |pastebinit   ...would be my suggestion, just to keep things relevant
[16:00] <nacc> _AxS_: fair point :)
[16:01] <younder> frib UEFI is needed
[16:01] <frib_> for a while there I Was able to boot it via an old ubuntu usb on which i ran update-grub and it detected both oses and i got back into my ubuntu 14.04 from there
[16:01] <vincent_LP> _AxS_: if count+=125 is executed, that means count must be greater than COUNT_LIMIT
[16:01] <BetaSoul> _AxS_, Pastebin it all it just grepped iwlwifi?
[16:01] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: which is the point.  this allows the thread to stop doing things and likely exit the program
[16:01] <EriC^^> frib_: and now?
[16:02] <spodermen_sweg> Beginning of last year I started my expedition to linuxland with ubuntu 14.04; it was good but when I tried manjaro it looked kinda weak in retrospect; is 16.04 much better?
[16:02] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: whichever, we'll sift through anything extra if you paste it all
[16:02] <BetaSoul> _AxS_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328412/
[16:02] <frib_> EriC^^: now I tried re-installing grub via this Live ubuntu 16 (which i'm on right now)
[16:02] <ubuntu-mate_> USB-Live, would it wise to Disconnect 2 of my HDDs? (while unmounted)
[16:02] <frib_> but when pc boots up screen seems to flash , i can't really tell, then i get brough back to my UEFI options menu (which i've never even seen before), if i choose to continue boot, windows 7 attempts to boot
[16:03] <EriC^^> frib_: ok, type sudo apt install pastebinit
[16:03] <nacc> BetaSoul: `iwconfig wlp4s0 | pastebinit`
[16:03] <spodermen_sweg> Oh and which DE/ variant is the most functional/best supported/coolest/BOSSest?
[16:03] <frib_> if i choose "boot from efi file" and choose ubuntu, it does what i just said and brings to uefi options
[16:03] <nacc> spodermen_sweg: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <EriC^^> frib_: then (ls /sys/firmware/efi; mount) | pastebinit
[16:03] <reisio> spodermen_sweg: how'd it look weak?
[16:03] <BetaSoul> nacc, No device found
[16:03] <frib_> EriC^^: i have pastebinit installed
[16:03] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: hmm..  so it's loaded but i don't see anything at all about firmware.  I would've expect to see a firmware version reported.  oh well let's assume it works.
[16:04] <nacc> _AxS_: [    3.061847] iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS> op_mode iwldvm
[16:04] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: what are you using to try and manage youw wifi connection(s)?
[16:04] <_AxS_> nacc: thanks i totally missed that
[16:04] <frib_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328490/
[16:04] <Giora> Is there a way to blacklist ips by range via /etc/hosts?
[16:04] <BetaSoul> Tried straight up iwlwifi. got a better CTL tool?
[16:05] <_AxS_> Giora: /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} you mean?
[16:05] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: iwlwifi has a control/setup tool?
[16:05] <BetaSoul> _AxS_, Thought it did.
[16:05] <Giora> _AxS_: Actually I have no idea I was just assuming that it might be possible to be done via /etc/hosts file
[16:05] <EriC^^> frib_: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[16:06] <frib_> EriC^^:  ok
[16:06] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: ...ok someone else needs to help here as i'm not an ubuntu user, but, the bits you need are 'wpa_supplicant' to handle the actual authentication, and then a front-end for it.
[16:06] <EriC^^> frib_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[16:06] <ampburner> hi guys, am having issues with ./configure. I get (bash: ./configure: No file) http://pastebin.com/Am42SvDC
[16:06] <spodermen_sweg> reisio: I dunno it just didn't feel as much fun or look as good as manjaro... it was also a lot slower, but I upgraded since then so speed wont really be an issue
[16:06] <_AxS_> ampburner: did you follow my advice?
[16:06] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> is it possible to run bootable ubuntu iso or usb within a running ubuntu to install os on external hdd?
[16:07] <frib_> EriC^^: done
[16:07] <EriC^^> frib_: sudo chroot /mnt
[16:07] <spodermen_sweg> Also, I hardly used the terminal with ubuntu but with manjaro I used it daily
[16:07] <BetaSoul> Okay, new Question then: Settting up wifi over terminal.
[16:07] <ZeekHuge> Hi ! so I have a laptop T430 by lenovo, the lshw is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328499/      . Now i have connected external monitor S2216H Dell through a VGA port . Now the monitor remains unrecognised and at lower resolution. Anyhow I am using it. Now it works nice for an hour or so, but then after it automatically gets disconnected and then gets connected automatically, it repeats, sometimes in just a few seconds sometime
[16:07] <ZeekHuge> s in hours. The monitor is working fine with other laptops . One thing that i noticed is, in my xorg  logs, the framebuffer also gets decreased as the screen gets disconnected, though i am not able to understand if its the stimulus or reaction. A side note I used xrandr to get at higher resolution ie 1600x900 . but the problem exists in lower reso also.
[16:08] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> what do you call the installation application of ubuntu?
[16:08] <frib_> EriC^^: im there
[16:08] <EriC^^> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: you might be able to boot the iso using grub and install, another way is using virtualbox to boot it and install to the ext hdd (might not work though)
[16:08] <EriC^^> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: ubiquity
[16:08] <EriC^^> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:08] <EriC^^> frib_: mount -a
[16:08] <frib_> EriC^^: it's hanging
[16:08] <reisio> spodermen_sweg: think it uses Xfce by default, which would be snappier than Unity/GNOME
[16:09] <nacc> BetaSoul: i'd expect nmcli would do it (network manager cli)
[16:09] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: ' iw ' is the tool you will use for base level stuff -- iw dev wlp4s0 scan    will give you the AP's nearby
[16:09] <EriC^^> frib_: ctrl+c, cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[16:09] <BetaSoul> Yeah, got it working now.
[16:09] <_AxS_> BetaSoul: nmcli (or NetworkManager in general) will definitely work.  use that
[16:09] <frib_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328798/
[16:09] <EriC^^> frib_: open another terminal and type (sudo blkid; cat /mnt/etc/fstab) | pastebinit
[16:09] <_AxS_> messing with iw + wpa_upplicant directly is not fun.  doable but not fun
[16:10] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> thanks EriC^^
[16:10] <frib_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328825/ (last one)
[16:10] <EriC^^> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: no problem
[16:10] <ZeekHuge> Any help on my problem please ?
[16:11] <EriC^^> frib_: ok, in the chroot type mount /boot/efi
[16:11] <frib_> EriC^^: done
[16:11] <WattisLove> Hi. If I install a deb package+dependencies with dpkg -i, should I be able to uninstall it with dpkg -r afterwards?
[16:11] <EriC^^> frib_: grub-install && update-grub
[16:12] <thebytepact> ZeekHuge: whats the problem u need solving?
[16:12] <frib_> EriC^^: ooh this time it found windows
[16:12] <frib_> EriC^^: but i dont think it found ubuntu
[16:12] <EriC^^> frib_: did it mention vmlinuz?
[16:12] <frib_> EriC^^: no, exactly
[16:13] <frib_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328952/
[16:13] <ZeekHuge> thebytepact: That disconnecting thing ! Why its getting disconnected and connected again ? thats disturbing all my setup and is very irritating !
[16:13] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: that laptop has dual intel+nvidia gpu's right?  which one are you using?
[16:13] <frib_> oh EriC^^ I Was using boot-repair and it was replacing the kernels for 30 min
[16:13] <spodermen_sweg> Why did default manjaro Xfce look so much better than Xubuntu tho damn
[16:13] <frib_> EriC^^: pretty sure it was broken
[16:13] <frib_> so I had to kill it, it wasn't pretty
[16:13] <nacc> WattisLove: probably; but you might want to use apt after the -i (apt-get -f install to pick up deps; apt-get remove ... etc)
[16:13] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: right . I am using intel integreated into it
[16:14] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: ok.  is there anything that might relate to this off-triggering in terms of say, power management?  laptop going to sleep, or turning off the displays, or anything?
[16:14] <BetaSoul> Got the card up, sweet.
[16:14] <EriC^^> frib_: (ls -l /boot; dpkg -l linux-image*) | pastebinit
[16:14] <WattisLove> nacc, so even if I install the pkg along with deps with dpkg I should run apt-get -f anyway?
[16:15] <frib_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17329035/
[16:15] <nacc> WattisLove: no, you don't need to, although in case you missed some deps ... can be useful
[16:15] <nacc> WattisLove: i'm saying dpkg is a low-level interface these days; you shouldn't need to use it direclty; and if you do, make sure you know what you're doing.
[16:15] <EriC^^> frib_: wow, the kernels are missing
[16:15] <EriC^^> frib_: apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[16:15] <frib_> EriC^^: yeah repair-boot messed up
[16:15] <_AxS_> is dpkg below or above apt-get ?
[16:15] <reisio> below
[16:16] <_AxS_> Oh, good to know.  thought it was the other way around
[16:16] <WattisLove> Well, the pkg I talk about is libreoffice which comes with its full set of deps. I only use dpkg when I can't use apt or gdebi
[16:16] <reisio> _AxS_: 's'worth knowin'
[16:16] <_AxS_> 'fo shizzle'
[16:16] <WattisLove> e.g. I wish it was possible to install several debs in a directory with gdebi
[16:16] <frib_> EriC^^: done
[16:16] <nacc> WattisLove: why can't you use apt?
[16:16] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_:  nope. Nothing that i could notice. Everything seems to be normal and then it just start. As as side note , i am using VGA and I tried getting nvidia drivers using additional drivers but thats causing black screen so i just removes everything (apt-get purge nvidia* )
[16:16] <frib_> EriC^^: update-grub?
[16:17] <nacc> WattisLove: or do you mean you're installing a libreoffice not in the archives?
[16:17] <WattisLove> nacc, because I'm installing an older version, and since I'm on Ubuntu 16, there are no older versions available from apt
[16:17] <EriC^^> frib_: (dpkg -l linux-*) | pastebinit
[16:17] <nacc> WattisLove: ah.
[16:17] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328499/
[16:17] <nacc> WattisLove: yeah, then you can't use apt to fix the install either (unless you also pin), as apt will try to upgrade
[16:17] <EriC^^> frib_: sure
[16:17] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: Does the T430 have a "proper" optimus steup?  ie, can you set 'integrated' 'discrete' 'optimus' modes in the bios?
[16:18] <WattisLove> what's "pin"? I've heard that several times now and haven't got idea what it could mean
[16:18] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: yes there is . I dont remember what it is set to though.
[16:18] <frib_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17329193/
[16:18] <nacc> WattisLove: it means you tell apt via preferences to keep a specific version of a package
[16:18] <frib_> EriC^^: ok it added the linux options to grub
[16:18] <WattisLove> so that when upgrading it keeps the version nacc ?
[16:18] <nacc> WattisLove: it should, yeah
[16:19] <frib_> EriC^^: should i try to boot it?
[16:19] <EriC^^> frib_: ok, everything looks good, type exit and try rebooting
[16:19] <nacc> WattisLove: see `man apt_preferences`, iirc
[16:19] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: ok.  so, fyi, in lenovo's brilliance they likely have the intel only connceted to VGA and the nvidia only connected to the DisplayPort.
[16:19] <frib_> EriC^^: k brb
[16:19] <nacc> WattisLove: there is also `apt-mark hold/unhold`
[16:19] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: so that's why it didn't work with nvidia.  you *might* get nvidia to drive everything if you set the bios to 'discrete' mode and use nvidia-drivers.
[16:19] <_AxS_> ..but then you'll drain battery 4x faster.
[16:19] <robotti^> don't buy hardware with nvidia:)
[16:20] <WattisLove> "hold/unhold" isn't related to "hold back" in man apt-get, right?
[16:20] <nacc> WattisLove: it's related to --ignore-hold
[16:20] <frib> EriC^^, thanks so much :)
[16:20] <robotti^> I just buy gpu from intel or amd
[16:20] <EriC^^> frib: no problem :)
[16:20] <frib> you're like a genius
[16:21] <ioria> !cookie | EriC^^
[16:21] <nacc> WattisLove: a hold is like a pin, but without having to muck with the preferences file. It's more transitional, ime
[16:21] <frib> lol
[16:21] <EriC^^> yum
[16:21] <frib> and that was fast help too haha
[16:22] <nacc> WattisLove: i'd recommend reading `man apt_preferences` in particular "APT's Default Priority Assignments" and related sections
[16:22] <ioria> frib, maybe you killed  boot-repair  too fast ...
[16:22] <WattisLove> I guess it also affects the updater window, right?
[16:22] <nacc> WattisLove: pinning? it should affect anything that is using apt
[16:22] <ioria> frib, while kernel updating
[16:22] <WattisLove> nacc, very intersting info, thank you
[16:23] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: unfortunately I can't provide any advice as to how to fix the issue with intel + VGA-out, except to say that you want to enable as much debug output as possible, especially on the kernel modules.  take a look in /sys/module/i915/parameters and see what you can play with for enabling debug output
[16:23] <nacc> WattisLove: i'm assuming most package layers do, on top
[16:24] <frib> ioria, i think actually apt-get was broken and that caused boot-repair to hang for like 30 min because when I tried to run apt-get outside of chroot for anything it failed
[16:24] <frib> and told me AptCache stream something or other
[16:24] <frib> but it doesn't take 30 min to replace kernel files
[16:24] <ioria> frib, ok, did you free some space on root ?
[16:25] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17329486/ :)
[16:25] <ioria> frib, you were 99%, iirc
[16:25] <ioria> frib,  89 % mmmm
[16:26] <frib> ioria, i have a 220gb partition with 2 Virtual machines that take up like 70 g
[16:26] <ioria> frib,  maybe a little more, but ...
[16:26] <frib> what i need is a 500gb ssd
[16:26] <ioria> frib,  me too :p
[16:27] <frib> ioria, this dumb hp laptop doesn't even have a slot for a 2nd harddrive
[16:27] <ioria> frib,  external ?
[16:27] <brunch875> Hello! I apt-got unity-scope-soundcloud and it broke unity
[16:27] <brunch875> now I have to launch stuff from terminals
[16:27] <frib> ioria, have but inconvenient.
[16:27] <ioria> frib,  i see
[16:27] <brunch875> anyone knows what I can do other than reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:28] <brunch875> like... reinstalling unity?
[16:28] <clueful> I just bought a brand new machine for doing some machine learning tasks, and realize I may be a bit too far on the bleeding edge...I can't seem to get the installer to work because the nouveau driver says unknown chipset for my 1080gtx's
[16:29] <frib> brunch875, funny that's what I was going to suggest
[16:29] <brunch875> yeah but I don't know how to do that
[16:29] <brunch875> how do I do that?
[16:29] <genii> brunch875: You could try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <clueful> is it possible to to use these cards with ubuntu (I'm fine with proprietary drivers so long as I can get them installed)
[16:29] <frib> did yo utry to uninstall unity-scope-soundcloud?
[16:29] <brunch875> thanks :)
[16:29] <brunch875> yeah, I uninstalled it but it's still broken
[16:30] <_AxS_> brunch875: once you identify what specific package(s) 'it' is, you can install --reinstall them and you should be back in business.
[16:30] <genii> brunch875: Also when this happens, when you remove the problemmatic package, should use the purge and not just uninstall
[16:31] <brunch875> yeah I purged it
[16:31] <brunch875> well, gonna reboot now. See you in a lil while
[16:31] <psprint> How to disable samba on 14.04?
[16:31] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: yes so what do you think the problem is ?
[16:32] <brunch875> well, it seems like the desktop broke for good
[16:33] <brunch875> I guess this calls for a clean install :s
[16:34] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: no idea, some random signal of some sort triggerint i915 to do something erroneously, is as much as I can guess.  the only thing i can suggest that might mitigate this is to try and force the resolution you want all the time in your DE's applet (if it has one) so that you don't have to reset it later.
[16:35] <ampburner> autoreconf: 'configure.ac' or 'configure.in' is required
[16:35] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: fyi, i have had issues like this from bad cable and/or DSUB connections.
[16:35] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: line 118 in http://paste.ubuntu.com/17328499/ . Whats that ? it has vga_palette in there ..
[16:36] <clueful> Is there any way to install ubuntu with a proprietary gfx driver right from the beginning, the autodetected noveau driver seems to just crash
[16:38] <rishi_> hello frn
[16:39] <therealtbe> hello is there any way that I can prevent processes from being launched?   I only want to run one specific process.   Like a kiosk.
[16:39] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: don't know.  is your nvidia at pci:0000:01 ?  there doesn't seem to be an entry for that anywhere else i see
[16:39] <_AxS_> therealtbe: there are so many ways to do this it's not funny.  you'll need to be more specific as to your application.
[16:40] <therealtbe> _AxS_:  okay tell me 1 or 2 ways
[16:40] <_AxS_> therealtbe: what is the application?  Xorg based?
[16:40] <therealtbe> _AxS_: QT
[16:40] <_AxS_> therealtbe: ...but running through Xorg right?
[16:41] <therealtbe> _AxS_:  sure?  I am not sure what the alternative would be
[16:41] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17330252/ .   Also, if it is a cable issue .. why is it working for even an hour ? ?
[16:41] <_AxS_> therealtbe: qt can write directly to framebuffers iirc, or use wayland, or a couple of other arm-specific things.. Xorg is easiest for this tho.
[16:41] <therealtbe> _AxS_:  okay let's go with Xorg then
[16:42] <vincent_LP> _AxS_: thank you, I found an explanation here, he thought "count+=125" is useless, maybe I should accept this answer... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23953849/how-does-this-pthread-cond-wait-example-work/23954012#23954012
[16:42] <_AxS_> therealtbe: ok -- shut down your Xorg, log in at the console, and then run  /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/[your-application]     ..does that do what you want?  if so, make a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/ for it, and make lightdm or whatever load that
[16:43] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: its only useless if everything works properly.  if the incrementing thread doesn't work then that count+=125 means the app will exit instead of needing to be killed, i think.
[16:44] <therealtbe> _AxS_:  and how would this prevent users from running other processes?
[16:44] <nacc> _AxS_: vincent_LP i think it could be many values other than 125; i think that's the confusing part
[16:44] <nacc> vincent_LP: constants should have well-defined names rather than being hardcoded like that; and have a comment :)
[16:44] <nacc> s/and have/or hav/
[16:45] <_AxS_> therealtbe: because the -only thing- that is running in the Xorg session is that app.  and you don't get any interface (no DE, no WM, nothing) to allow you to launch something else.
[16:45] <therealtbe> _AxS_:  okay thanks I will pursue this implementation and get back to you with further questions :)
[16:45] <_AxS_> therealtbe: good luck.
[16:47] <ZeekHuge> _AxS_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17330252/ .   Also, if it is a cable issue .. why is it working for even an hour ? ?
[16:47] <dbolser> hihi
[16:48] <dbolser> I'm working an a weird cloud environment, and I've 'attached a volume' to my ubuntu instance
[16:48] <dbolser> however, I don't know how to mount that volume
[16:48] <vincent_LP> _AxS_, nacc, I think calling count+=125 needs a condition that "count == COUNT_LIMIT". if the worker threads is killed, the watcher will still can not be awaken, is it correct...?
[16:49] <dbolser> "Attached to Ubuntu 02 on /dev/vdb"
[16:49] <dbolser> how do I go about finding what /dev/vdb is and how to mount it?
[16:50] <_AxS_> vincent_LP: why?  if count is above COUNT_LIMIT it still triggers the loop exit...
[16:50] <vincent_LP> _AxS_, nacc, *killed improperly
[16:51] <moparisthebest> where do I look for news on when 16.04.1 is supposed to come out? or maybe it already has
[16:51] <havoc_hive> i have a problem with apt-get update: malformed line 61 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (absolute dist)
[16:52] <havoc_hive> do i just purge the lines in source list with # attached to it?
[16:52] <_AxS_> ZeekHuge: the cable issue causes occasional intermittent problems.  remember this isn't digital, it's analog.  it could well be that all that's needed is for there to be just enough of a resistance increase for the hardware to trigger a re-poll of EDID from the monitor or something, and since we already know that doesn't give you the resolution you want...
[16:52] <nacc> vincent_LP: count is a mutex-protected shared global, afaict
[16:53] <nacc> vincent_LP: afaict, if you were to kill both threads runing inc_count before count hits COUNT_LIMIT, watch_count thread will be in the pthread_cond_wait() indefinitely. I think it should still be killable, but it won't cleanup properly (necessarily)
[16:53] <dancingd3mon> hey guys, I keep on getting those errors after installing rutorrent in ubuntu 14.0
[16:54] <dancingd3mon> http://prntscr.com/bg5mw7
[16:54] <dancingd3mon> I tried many solutions and none seem to work...
[16:54] <vincent_LP> _AxS_, nacc: "pthread_cond_wait(&count_threshold_cv, &count_mutex); " this can only be awaken when "count == COUNT_LIMIT", and count==COUNT_LIMIT already satisfy count>COUNT_LIMIT, then why count+=125 is necessary?
[16:54] <akik> dbolser: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/vdb" should show you its details
[16:55] <vincent_LP> _AxS_, nacc, * count>=COUNT_LIMIT
[16:55] <dbolser> thanks akik
[16:56] <dancingd3mon> anyone familiar with those kind of errors I'm seeing?
[16:56] <havoc_hive> anyone have a fix?
[16:57] <akik> havoc_hive: # lines are comments and not of concern
[16:57] <cognitiaclaeves> I'm trying to get xclip working while sshed in from a Mac ( El Capitan ). Can anyone assist? I'm not sure where it's breaking down. I am getting a result for `echo $DISPLAY` now, whereas, before I wasn't.
[16:57] <jamesd> cognitiaclaeves: i assume you are using  ssh -X  mac-host
[16:57] <vincent_LP> nacc: count+=125 cannot help in the situation that both threads runing inc_count are killed before count hits COUNT_LIMIT
[16:57] <akik> havoc_hive: if you pastebin the file it would help
[16:58] <nacc> vincent_LP: i don't know, i didn't write the code. maybe contact the authors. it seems like defensive programming, but it's also somewhat unnecessary (afaict).
[16:58] <cognitiaclaeves> jamesd: That is one way I have tried. I also defined ForwardX11 yes in .ssh/config.
[16:58] <nacc> vincent_LP: i never said it did
[16:58] <nacc> vincent_LP: infact, i specifically said it didn't...
[16:58] <dbolser> it's just a 'volume' I wonder if I need to format it
[16:58] <_AxS_> jamesd: cognitiaclaeves: sometimes 'ssh -Y' works better (instead of -X )
[16:58] <akik> dbolser: if it's a brand new ununsed disk, there are probably no partitions on it
[16:59] <vincent_LP> nacc: yes, sorry my bad English, so I'm trying to confirm that...
[16:59] <cognitiaclaeves> _AxS_: I've also tried that, to no avail.
[16:59] <dbolser> akik: it's a weird vm 'volume' that I just attached abstractly
[16:59] <nacc> vincent_LP: also, keep in mind, these are compile-time constants, so maybe it's written that way so you can play with the values of TCOUNT and COUNT_LIMIT, etc.
[16:59] <_AxS_> cognitiaclaeves: ahh you're on OSX.  ok.  do you have X11 started?  are you running ssh from within an X11 xterm or from the OSx console?
[16:59] <AimlessRaven> hi to evryone, how to see what is my current graphic cards driver in use now
[16:59] <havoc_hive> akik: im slightly new at this, pastebin?
[16:59] <akik> dbolser: can you pastebin the fdisk output?
[16:59] <AimlessRaven> because i have onboard card
[16:59] <AimlessRaven> and pci-e
[16:59] <akik> havoc_hive: open pastebin.com in a browser and paste the file there
[16:59] <_AxS_> AimlessRaven: lspci -k
[17:00] <cognitiaclaeves> _AxS_: I have xquartz installed.  ( I'm running el capitan )
[17:00] <akik> havoc_hive: then you can paste its url here
[17:00] <cognitiaclaeves> _AxS_: I tried from the osX terminal, and I tried iTerm.
[17:00] <vincent_LP> nacc: emm, good point.
[17:00] <_AxS_> cognitiaclaeves: i haven't tried xquartz.  all I know is that in order to get it to work, i had to launch my ssh -X from an xterm that was started within the Xorg windowing environment.
[17:01] <AimlessRaven> _AxS_:   omg, i install nvidia drivers but  now in use is my onboard card .. intel graphic
[17:01] <dbolser> akik: http://pastebin.com/RLBnTN5k
[17:01] <_AxS_> cognitiaclaeves: can you do that with xquartz? start an xtern within it?
[17:01] <AimlessRaven> why in my softuer && updates
[17:01] <AimlessRaven> i select nvidia
[17:01] <_AxS_> AimlessRaven: dual-gpu systems are a royal pain.  good luck
[17:01] <cognitiaclaeves> _AxS_: Not sure. How do you do it from x11? :-/
[17:01] <cognitiaclaeves> _AxS_: I imagine so, though. That's how gimp and inkscape run.
[17:01] <akik> dbolser: ok the disk /dev/vdb doesn't have any partitions on it
[17:01] <vincent_LP> nacc: here is the explanation from my teacher:   In condvar_bug.c a statement "count += 125;" is missing. Thus the "watch_count" thread may not get out of the "while" loop and then call "pthread_cond_wait(&count_threshold_cv, &count_mutex);" again.
[17:02] <_AxS_> cognitiaclaeves: Applications->Utilities  , launch X11 , then from there you can launch an xterm directly.
[17:02] <dbolser> ic
[17:02] <akik> dbolser: you should probably also fix your /etc/hosts file to match ubuntu-02 hostname in it to some ip
[17:02] <vincent_LP> nacc: the bug program doesn't contain "count += 125;", and only this part is different
[17:03] <dbolser> orly
[17:03] <dbolser> :-)
[17:03] <dbolser> thanks akik left that there to see if you'd help me with it :-D
[17:03] <akik> dbolser: it kind of sticks me in the eye there
[17:03] <dbolser> hehe
[17:03] <dbolser> so "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu-02"  ?
[17:03] <vincent_LP> nacc: that's why I'm so confused, and tomorrow I will have the exam......
[17:04] <akik> dbolser: i think the default is to put it on the <IP_ADDRESS> line
[17:04] <dbolser> akik: yay :-)
[17:04] <cognitiaclaeves> _AxS_: There is an option for 'Terminal' when right-clicking on the xquartz icon. It appears that I can use xclip that way.
[17:04] <dbolser> following the guide for this vm...
[17:05] <dbolser> step 3, create a fs on the volume and mount it... ok
[17:05] <akik> dbolser: you have to first create a partition on it
[17:05] <dbolser> ic
[17:05] <_AxS_> cognitiaclaeves: cool, so if you ssh from that Terminal you -should- be good to go.
[17:05] <dbolser> akik: the guide is telling me to use lvm
[17:06] <vincent_LP> nacc, _AxS_, thanks for your help. maybe I should be honestly tell my teacher his correction is unnecessary if I encounter this question tomorrow...
[17:06] <akik> dbolser: go for it. it's not a requirement though. and it's a bit complicated
[17:06] <cognitiaclaeves> That terminal is unbelievably ugly, though. I remember getting it to work before my drive was re-imaged, without needing to use xterm ...
[17:06] <cognitiaclaeves> But at least it gets me the capability without any more searching.  Thanks!
[17:06] <dbolser> akik: yeah, that's why I usually go for simple partition tables..
[17:07] <dbolser> lvm may be usefull though...
[17:07] <topirate> hey transmission is not working in my 16.04 machine
[17:08] <topirate> is there anyone else with same problem
[17:09] <ikonia> why dont you expand more han "doesn't work"
[17:10] <_AxS_> cognitiaclaeves: you can likely change the terminal's theme to make it prettier...
[17:11] <tpw_rules> i'm having a bizarre issue compiling somoclu. it's telling me there's an error in /usr/include/string.h, which I figured would be pretty well sorted. http://pastie.org/private/tqotgzm0i1uatk17w0pra is the compiler not pointed to the right something or is there truly an error?
[17:11] <topirate> ikonia, you are sayin it to me?
[17:12] <ikonia> topirate: yes
[17:12] <ikonia> tpw_rules: yes there is reeally an error
[17:12] <ikonia> no idea why you thought string.h would be "pretty well sorted"
[17:12] <_AxS_> what libc is this?
[17:12] <tpw_rules> i mean it ships with the OS and i'm not on like bleeding edge. it's whatever libc comes with 16.04LTS
[17:13] <ikonia> tpw_rules: not sure why that matters
[17:13] <tpw_rules> did nobody ever use memcpy before packaging it?
[17:13] <nacc> tpw_rules: do you mean sorted, no in the ordered sense, but in the 'not broken' sense?
[17:13] <tpw_rules> not broken
[17:13] <topirate> ah not sure if i havve met you on #lfs-support but doesn't work means it is not downloading my file and no issue with seeders
[17:13] <ikonia> tpw_rules: who said it's broken
[17:13] <tpw_rules> which makes me think something has invoked the compiler wrong vs the file itself has an error
[17:13] <_AxS_> tpw_rules: its the way it's being inlined.  i expect the issue has to do with the codebase that's using it, possibly using compiler directives or whatever that's making it not work properly
[17:14] <ikonia> tpw_rules: have you actually looked if it's declared in the header
[17:14] <nacc> tpw_rules: i'm on 16.04 and my /usr/include/string.h has no such __memcpy_inline
[17:15] <_AxS_> tpw_rules: this seems relevant: https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/issues/4046
[17:15] <tpw_rules> nacc: did you catch the extra p?
[17:16] <ioria> tpw_rules, libc6-dev  is installed ?
[17:16] <ikonia> it must be as the header is there
[17:17] <nacc> tpw_rules: argh, sorry
[17:17] <tpw_rules> yes. but _AxS_ that sounds likely
[17:17] <_AxS_> from the url i just posted, the issue seems to be in the cuda sdk rather than in the base system
[17:17] <ikonia> topirate: can it actually talk out on the ports
[17:18] <tpw_rules> _AxS_: yeah i guess i'll have to look there. thanks for finding that
[17:18] <bekks> !dualboot > bekks
[17:18] <_AxS_> tpw_rules: np.
[17:18] <topirate> wait a moment
[17:19] <ikonia> topirate: are you the guy who rage quite because you where out of your depth ?
[17:20] <tpw_rules> _AxS_: now we're on to a different, seemingly unrelated error, so i guess that worked?
[17:20] <vishwanath> How to install sling standalone application for ubuntu 14.04?
[17:20] <ikonia> vishwanath: is it the repos ?
[17:21] <vishwanath> yes
[17:21] <ikonia> then just open the package manager, search for it, and click install
[17:21] <havoc_hive> i have a problem with a sources.list file that is preventing from updating. if i pastebin the information, is anyone willing to help me?
[17:21] <havoc_hive> the issue: malformed line 61 in sources list /etc/apt/sources.list (absolute dist)
[17:21] <bekks> havoc_hive: So fix line 61.
[17:21] <topirate> ikonia are you the same guy who keep talkin shit:)
[17:22] <ikonia> topirate: please don't swear in here - it's not welcome
[17:22] <dancingd3mon> hey guys, anyone familiar with installing rutorrent on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:22] <ikonia> dancingd3mon: just state your problem, people will help if they can
[17:23] <havoc_hive> bekks: sorry, kinda new at this, now i know. thanks
 thank you :)I keep on getting those errors when trying to run rutorrent on ubuntu 14.04 :  http://prntscr.com/bg5mw7 Anyidea what it could be ? I deleted the uistettings.json in /var/www/rutorrent/share/users/dancingdemon/settings and also checked my webserver settings which is nginx and it seemed fine..I kinda made sure permissions are fine. nginx -t seem good and no errors in the log...Can it be something with the plugins or something
[17:25] <dancingd3mon> else...?
[17:26] <linus> hello
[17:26] <ikonia> dancingd3mon: so the server is not responding to that request and it's also not allowing an outward connection (probably because it can't process the request)
[17:27] <Guest89066> hello
[17:27] <ikonia> dancingd3mon: it's certainly something to do with the code it uses to display the gui
[17:28] <Guest89066> i have installed ubuntu 14.04
[17:28] <Guest89066> i am going to install windows xp also
[17:28] <dancingd3mon> thanks you ikonia
[17:29] <Guest89066> how can i have both while i have ubuntu 14.04 installed now
[17:29] <ikonia> Guest89066: you'll just need to re-apply grub to the mbr
[17:29] <ikonia> !grub2 > Guest89066
[17:29] <ikonia> ubottu has just sent you a link on how to do it
[17:29] <ikonia> you will find it easier to install windows, then ubuntu though, but thats up to you
[17:30] <Bashing-om> ptnecniv: I am back on .. what is your status ?
[17:31] <Guest89066> i cants see grub after installing windows xp
[17:32] <feodoran> hi, since 16.04 includes the new amdgpu driver, does anyone know if it is possible to switch between iGPU (Intel) and dGPU (Radeon)?
[17:32] <bekks> Because XP overwrote it.
[17:32] <ikonia> Guest89066: read the link ubottu sent you
[17:32] <ikonia> Guest89066: it explains how to put grub back
[17:32] <bekks> Guest89066: You need to reinstall grub, as the link told you.
[17:32] <Buffman> hi there - I'm looking to build & ship our software in an ubuntu VM, as a "black box" virtual appliance. I'm wondering what is the recommended way to create a GUI to help first time setup - like network configuration, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[17:33] <ikonia> Buffman: ubuntu desktop has a gui to allow this
[17:33] <ikonia> just use that
[17:33] <ikonia> or document the process
[17:33] <ikonia> if you want to write your own gui, pick a language and toolkit you are comfortable with, and write it
[17:34] <Buffman> I was hoping for something where the end-user doesn't have to log-in to ubuntu
[17:34] <_AxS_> Buffman: or pre-configure it -- what sort of configuration do you expect end-users to need to do?  dhcp usually does fine for wired, wifi is more tricky but they'll need to change that regularly so it'll have to be available for adjustment in the appliance app too
[17:34] <ikonia> Buffman: how do you expect to configure something without logging in ?
[17:35] <Guest89066> where is ubuntu help channel ?
[17:35] <ikonia> you're in it
[17:35] <dancingd3mon> wow
[17:35] <Guest89066> i just see bot
[17:36] <dancingd3mon> so it got fixed after removing autodl.
[17:36] <ikonia> Guest89066: clearl not, as you can see me
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest89066  ask you ubuntu related question here
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> your*
[17:36] <Guest89066> ikonia, you are not bot ?
[17:36] <ikonia> Guest89066: no
[17:36] <ikonia> Guest89066: other people have also spoken to you as well as ubottu the bot
[17:37] <Guest89066> ikonia, i installed ubuntu 14.04 and now i need to install windows xp
[17:37] <Buffman> _AxS_ : Thanks, I just basically need a basic config screen to toggle between DHCP/Static IP.
[17:37] <ikonia> Guest89066: yes, you said that, and I explained your problem and gave you a link explaining how to fix it
[17:37] <Guest89066> ikonia, yess
[17:38] <Guest89066> ikonia, but i dont have live cd now
[17:38] <ikonia> Guest89066: get one
[17:39] <Guest89066> ikonia, there is no solution without cd ?
[17:39] <ikonia> Guest89066: no
[17:39] <Guest89066> ikonia, i have live cd
[17:40] <Guest89066> ikonia, i have iso file
[17:40] <k1l> Guest89066: ask ##windows how to get windows on live cd or live usb.
[17:40] <Guest89066> how can i create a bootable usb ?
[17:40] <ikonia> !install | Guest89066
[17:47] <manos> hello
[17:48] <manos> anyone?
[17:48] <Bashing-om> Hellosun_: manos ; Your support question ?
[17:49] <manos> hi I have an issue. I think it's caused by Fcitx on lubuntu. I can't control Scroll Lock. The LED only lights up when I change keyboard layout. I can't seem to find the setting to stop it or maybe there's a bug. I'm very frustrated right now.
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !find fctix
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !find fcitx
[17:58] <dorian> i have an ubuntu server which insists on using mdns to resolve hostnames. is there any way to tame it?
[18:00] <psprint> How to disable samba on 14.04?
[18:02] <akik> psprint: update-rc.d command. i've forgot the options
[18:03] <Snackerr> hello, is there a GUI for setting up OPENSSH-SERVER?
[18:03] <Snackerr> i want to share a folder, on the internet
[18:03] <Snackerr> all the GUI's i find are just for SSH clients
[18:03] <psprint> akik: thanks
[18:04] <Admin__> Snackerr, any webserver will serve a folder without an html
[18:05] <Snackerr> Admin__, What is the easiest way to share a folder from my home computer. that friends can access remotely?
[18:06] <jtc1> hi,pls... i have installed ubuntu 16.04 on acer aspire netbook, but after i choose in grub the ubuntu it only shows black screen, i had to change uefi to legacy because of secure boot but it still does not work, anyone could help me?
[18:06] <Admin__> Snackerr, cloud storage
[18:07] <bekks> !nomodeset | jtc1
[18:07] <jtc1> ok will try it, thx
 thank you, dude! I had a lot of questions, but just set and RTFM, so now I setup all I need: postfix with virtual mailboxes for few domains + courier with authmysql + roundcube getting mail by IMAP. now I am little bit more ninja! THANK YOU!
[18:08] <Snackerr> Admin__,  i'd rather have a "private cloud", i'm reading about all the options:  SSHFS, WEBDAV, SAMBA, etc
[18:08] <comradepashka_> oops, and I don't know maybe you are girl (not sure by ur nick), so sorry :)
[18:09] <ioria> comradepashka_, great ! good job
[18:09] <henry_> I don't remenber the edit pdf that recommended me
[18:09] <_AxS_> Snackerr: if you're looking for private cloud, look up 'ownCloud'
[18:09] <Snackerr> _AxS_,  i just want to share a folder.  Like Samba, but accessible from the internet.  is there a simple GUI for that?
[18:10] <_AxS_> Snackerr: depends on how you define "simple".  :)  Simple to use?  likely yes.  Simple to set up in a way that is secure'ish?  not likely
[18:10] <Snackerr> or is there anyway to make Samba accessilbe from the internet?
[18:10] <akik> Snackerr: using sshd is secure and it includes a chroot functionality with "internal-sftp"
[18:11] <Admin__> Snackerr, everything has a http server
[18:11] <_AxS_> Snackerr: yes you can make samba globally accessuble, but no you really don't want to do that.
[18:11] <akik> Snackerr: samba needs port 445
[18:12] <_AxS_> Snackerr: if you trust your friends, the easiest way to set things up so they're secure might be using openvpn to give them access.
[18:13] <comradepashka_> btw, this atricle helped me a lot: https://dannorth.net/2007/09/09/virtual-mailboxes-with-courier-imap-and-postfix/ if someone stucks - it will help, indeed!
[18:13] <Snackerr> akik, what is the diff between:   sshd & openssh-server ?
[18:14] <ikonia> Snackerr: one is the package name, one is the binary name
[18:14] <bernhard_> my grub bootloader displays nothing, but when 3 sec are over it joins me to LightDM, could you pleas help me? Thanks
[18:15] <jhonier> Hi
[18:15] <Bashing-om> !grub | bernhard_
[18:15] <archer121> I am trying to get nvidia drivers to work with a nvidia 920M on a dell laptop. From whichever source I install, the laptop gets stuck at boot. Can anyone help me with this?
[18:15] <rp2> Snackerr, type dpkg -L openssh-server and you will see sshd in there
[18:15] <jhonier> I want install a usb wireless
[18:15] <Snackerr> akik, _AxS_  i have heard that openssh-server is good, but is there a GUI that does this? :   https://www.maketecheasier.com/secure-ssh-server-ubuntu/
[18:16] <jhonier> this chat exist in spanish_
[18:16] <ikonia> Snackerr: a gui ?
[18:16] <akik> Snackerr: what do you mean gui, for what?
[18:16] <ikonia> !es | jhonier
[18:16] <_AxS_> Snackerr: no, but there *are* SFTP clients that look like gui ftp clients.
[18:17] <Snackerr> akik, ikonia , to make it easier to setup.  for Example, to setup SambaShare, you just Right-Click the folder in Nautilus--- is there something like that for openssh-server?
[18:17] <ikonia> Snackerr: what is there to setup ?
[18:17] <rp2> Snackerr, you mean a GUI for configuring the SSH server?
[18:17] <Bashing-om> archer121: Share with the channel in a pastebin the hardware we are working with - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - and we match a driver to the hardware .
[18:18] <ikonia> Snackerr: it's a command line client that just sits there and connects to a daemon that proxies commands into your machine
[18:18] <Snackerr> rp2,  yes, a GUI setup an SSH server: instead of this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[18:18] <rp2> Snackerr, I have never seen one. I don't think it would make things much easier. at the end of the day you have to know what all the options and option values mean
[18:19] <ikonia> Snackerr: no
[18:19] <rp2> how would a GUI help?
[18:19] <ikonia> Snackerr: it's a clear text file, you edit it with a text editor
[18:19] <akik> Snackerr: i know how you feel. no setup.exe to do the work
[18:19] <Snackerr> rp2,  just like right-clicking in Nautilus helps, for SambaShares
[18:20] <rp2> sudo apt-get install openssh-server is the equivalent of setup.exe. after that it will run.
[18:20] <akik> Snackerr: but it's not hard either
[18:20] <ikonia> akik: yes there is
[18:20] <ikonia> you open the package manager and cliek install
[18:20] <ikonia> that is it
[18:20] <ikonia> click
[18:20] <akik> :) ok
[18:20] <ikonia> how is that different than clicking setup.exe
[18:20] <jhonier> where can download drivers for a usb adaptor wireless+
[18:20] <Snackerr> ikonia, i mean, a GUI to setup all the options
[18:20] <akik> ikonia: i meant the configuration which could be done through "setup.exe"
[18:21] <archer121> Bashing-om: I have a NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce 920M] [10de:1299] (rev a1)
[18:21] <_AxS_> ikonia: i think what he's talking about, and Snackerr correct me if i'm wrong, is a gui for managing the sharing of files via sftp or whatever.  So he can right-click on a file in nautilus and mark it as shareable to others.
[18:21] <ikonia> Snackerr: what options ?
[18:21] <ikonia> akik: thats nothing to do with ssh though
[18:22] <ikonia> you do'nt "share" files
[18:22] <Snackerr> http://themediahost.de/secpanel/#  i found this, but i'm not sure if it is for Clients only?
[18:22] <_AxS_> Snackerr: there aren't really options.  You install openssh , you configure it once, and everything else is user configuration and putting files in the right place.
[18:22] <akik> if you want to setup the sshd chroot, it needs some manual work
[18:22] <ikonia> Snackerr: good lord,
[18:22] <HackerII> lol.
[18:22] <ikonia> what a pointless thing
[18:23] <_AxS_> ikonia: that's what Snackerr is trying to do though, "share files" to his friends (apparently through sftp or whatever)
[18:23] <freecoder> does anyone know if virtualbox 5.0.20 (latest) works properly under kernel 4.6?
[18:23] <ikonia> _AxS_: just put them in a directory and let his friends connect
[18:23] <_AxS_> ikonia: oh, it's PuTTY but for linux.
[18:23] <Snackerr> _AxS_,  "sftp" is to transfer files , right?  but i am just looking to access a folder on my computer.  not transfer the whole file
[18:23] <ikonia> putty is available for linux
[18:23] <rp2> Snackerr, there is no such thing as sharing files in SSH
[18:24] <akik> freecoder: yes
[18:24] <k1l> Snackerr: what options do you want to setup at all? and why is it a problem to read the config file and change the few things one likes to change?
[18:24] <_AxS_> Snackerr: they can't access things in a useful manner without transferring.
[18:24] <k1l> Snackerr: and nautilus can connect to sftp out of the box.
[18:24] <freecoder> akik, thanks. because last i tried on 4.4 and the vbox kernel modules broke
[18:24] <Admin__> Snackerr, how much would you pay for it?
[18:24] <akik> freecoder: well i don't know about that
[18:25] <akik> freecoder: i'm running kernel 4.6.2 and virtualbox 5.0.20
[18:25] <freecoder> cool then
[18:27] <rp2> Snackerr, when transferring files over SSH (e.g. with scp, sftp, or rsync) what is happening is your client connects to your server with SSH as a local user. which files you can read and write is determined by the file permissions in effect for that local user. there is no separate action of making files available for sharing, hence there is no action for doing that
[18:29] <rp2> so you can't do it in a GUI, and you can't do it in any other way. to make files available just make sure they are readable to the user you connect as
[18:30] <_AxS_> Snackerr: ..to follow up with what rp2 is saying, as you are likely not going to want to give your friends credentials to access your own local user account on your computer, likely you will need to figure out some way to store the files in a multi-user-accessible way.  Probably copying to a directory everyone can access would be easiest.
[18:32] <Snackerr> thanks for the help, this is a lot for me to learn...  :)  i like simple GUI's like these   https://askubuntu.com/questions/170712/how-do-i-share-my-internal-hard-drive
[18:32] <Snackerr> i bet 20 years ago, people said a GUI for Samba like that ^ was "impossible"   :)
[18:33] <ikonia> Snackerr: no, they didn't
[18:33] <ikonia> swat has been around since samba 3 at least which is almost 20 years
[18:33] <akik> Snackerr: samba was configured in smb.conf back then too :)
[18:33] <akik> oh yea implying i'm doing it like that now
[18:34] <DArqueBishop> ikonia: well, damn, thanks for making me feel old now.
[18:35] <Bashing-om> archer121: " [GeForce 920M] " Are you sure not a 9200M series .. as I do not find 920 ?
[18:35] <akik> Bashing-om: it's correct, i have the same one
[18:35] <Snackerr> so funny :)    http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/949
[18:36] <Bashing-om> akik: Thanks .. back to look'n and matching .
[18:37] <_AxS_> Snackerr: 20 years ago they'd just have shared samba over the internet.  i mean, that's what windows 95 was doing
[18:37] <akik> some operators might block samba though
[18:38] <akik> at least ports 137,138,139. cifs seems to be able to work only on port 445
[18:39] <Admin__> why not use cloud?
[18:39] <Admin__> it's 2016
[18:41] <archer121> Bashing-om: There is a 920M under gforce 900 series.
[18:42] <Snackerr> Admin__,  you mean OwnCloud?  what other options are there?
[18:43] <Admin__> Snackerr, dropbox,gdrive, etc
[18:43] <k1l> nextcloud ;p
[18:44] <Admin__> k1l, next-who?
[18:44] <k1l> the owncloud developers and community split into 2 different projects now: owncloud and nextcloud.
[18:45] <Admin__> but odes it have a GUI? ;)
[18:46] <akik> onhan se ihan tyhmää pitää oikeuksistaan kii
[18:46] <akik> sorry :)
[18:46] <Myrtti> akik: :-P
[18:47] <bmcfee> can someone help me figure out why my headphone jack plug detection no longer works after upgrading to 16.10? lenovo x1 carbon; nothing useful/recent coming up after googling/browsing forums
[18:47] <k1l> bmcfee: 16.10 is still in development. better ask in #ubuntu+1 and file bugs
[18:48] <bmcfee> sorry, i meant 16.04
[18:48] <bmcfee> (brainfart while still browsing forums in another tab :P)
[18:50] <_AxS_> bmcfee: i would guess kernel related issues, in collaboration with pulseaudio
[18:50] <Bashing-om> archer121: Yeah .. found it .. and that is a new card .. as Nvidia recommends the 367 version driver . That driver is only available to us in our trusted repo .. and only for release 16.04/16.10 / What release are you running ?
[18:51] <bmcfee> _AxS_: well yes, but any hints on how to start debugging specifically would be appreciated
[18:53] <_AxS_> bmcfee: that I can't help with much...  is alsamixer a standard tool in ubuntu?  maybe try that and see if headphone output is even available/controllable
[18:53] <bmcfee> _AxS_: yes, it is available, yes it's controllable, but no sound comes out because it's always detecting "unplugged" (in the gnome settings -> sound dropdown for speakers/headphone)
[18:53] <archer121> Bashing-om: I have 14.04. I installed a .run file for 367, but with no use.
[18:55] <_AxS_> bmcfee: huh.  ok well if there's plugged vs unplugged detection then in theory plugging in headphones should trigger a kernel event.  dmesg?
[18:56] <bmcfee> _AxS_: tried that, nothing shows up.  either those events don't get logged (possible?) or they're not getting triggered.
[18:56] <bmcfee> (dmesg -l debug also shows nothing related)
[18:58] <Snackerr> Admin__, which is better NextCloud or OwnCloud?
[18:58] <Bashing-om> archer121: K. do not think 14.04 has the X-server to support the 367 driver .. in 14.04 .. how bout we try version 364 - from our repo - see how that works out ?
[18:58] <Admin__> Snackerr, ask k1l
[18:58] <_AxS_> bmcfee: not getting triggered would mean kernel setting.  time to check the kernel config?
[18:59] <Snackerr> k1l, can you use SSHFS with Owncloud?  (to see a folder mounted in Nautilus)
[18:59] <k1l> Snackerr: right now: owncloud. since nextcloud is just setting everything up.
[18:59]  * _AxS_ really prefers hardware that had headphone/speaker switchover being transparent to the OS...
[19:00] <k1l> Snackerr: install openssh-server on the host and you got that. and nautilus handles sftp native, too.
[19:00] <bmcfee> _AxS_: meaning ... what exactly?  the build config, modules, etc?  this is all using stock kernel packages
[19:00] <_AxS_> Snackerr: ownCloud is like setting up your own personal dropbox.
[19:00] <jtc1> i have installed ubuntu 16.04 on acer aspire netbook, but after i choose in grub the ubuntu it only shows black screen, i had to change uefi to legacy because of secure boot but it still does not work, anyone could help me?
[19:00] <_AxS_> bmcfee: the build config, yeah.  16.10 i'm sure came with a new kernel, there may be options it didn't have previously in sound that need enabling
[19:00] <jtc1> I have tried nomodeset but it did not help
[19:01] <Admin__> what stack does twilio use
[19:01] <Snackerr> "_AxS_:  store the files in a multi-user-accessible way.  Probably copying to a directory everyone can access would be easiest."   <-- okay, how do you do that?
[19:01] <scaldwell> I have a system with a swap file on a disk that has other I/O.  (Yeah... I know this is bad).  This is a production system (rebooting is not an option).  I have added swap on another disk with higher priority and load is shifted to this new swap.  Is there a way to SAFELY bleed the swap over to the new swap partition without any OOMEs on the production service?
[19:02] <scaldwell> (Three of us are banging our heads on this one)
[19:02] <bmcfee> _AxS_: okay.. how would i check that?  sorry if that sounds dumb, i haven't built a kernel within the last decade
[19:02] <_AxS_> Snackerr: seriously?  you don't know how to copy files?
[19:03] <Snackerr> _AxS_,  i want to make only certain folders accessible, and some Read-only, some writeable.  to my guests
[19:03] <pawn> I'm trying to install libapache2-mod-fastcgi but I'm getting an error: ...
[19:03] <pawn> Package libapache2-mod-fastcgi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:03] <pawn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:03] <pawn> is only available from another source
[19:03] <pawn> E: Package 'libapache2-mod-fastcgi' has no installation candidate
[19:03] <Admin__> Snackerr, did you try apache?
[19:04] <_AxS_> bmcfee: ah.  well..  good question then.  I'm not an ubuntu user but i would expect that the config of the kernel you booted is available at /proc/config.gz ; as to using it in a human-readable way, you would need to grab the matching kernel tarball, extract, 'make oldconfig' with the .config being what you found in /proc , and then 'make menuconfig' to browse the options.
[19:05] <_AxS_> Snackerr: well, you need [1] account(s) for your guest(s) ; [2] folder(s) where they have read-only or read-write permissions ; [3] files that you've copied into those folders.
[19:06] <_AxS_> Snackerr: info on how to do all of that is general linux administration and usage stuff.  I have no idea what sort of guide or howto that you might be able to use for that though sorry
[19:08] <bmcfee> _AxS_: yikes. maybe i'll just try to revert to whatever kernel was used in 15.10
[19:09] <bmcfee> gonna give that a spin.  thanks _AxS_
[19:10] <Snackerr> _AxS_, thanks.  Admin__  no i dont know apache, but i have also beeen looking at FreeNAS & Xpenology.
[19:11] <_AxS_> FreeNAS i think may contain ownCloud, but in general it's for -local- network storage not remote-access, iirc
[19:12] <Bashing-om> archer121: Opps .. bad choice of words , the 364 version deiver is in our trusted PPA .. not from the repository .
[19:14] <akik> scaldwell: i've used swapoff in the past succesfully. i don't know if anyone can give you guarantees about it
[19:16] <akik> scaldwell: i just disabled all swap on this machine and nothing bad happened *knock* *knock*
[19:17] <panina> hey, anyone know of good alternatives to network-manager?
[19:17] <panina> it's behaving quite erratically, and I think it's time to retire it...
[19:18] <bekks> panina: How does it behave then?
[19:18] <jatt> panina: wicd
[19:19] <Bashing-om> panina: IF this is a stationary system and WIFI does not require management .. one can do without network-manager . A thought .
[19:22] <_AxS_> panina: wpa_supplicant has a nice GUI all on its own, using qt4 libs.  no idea if that's available in ubuntu or not
[19:22] <_AxS_> wicd died like 5 years ago didn't it?
[19:23] <hdon> hi all :) i tried editing an XML file with really long lines in vim and it doesn't like it. anyone know a program to pretty print my xml doc so i can explore/edit it in vim?
[19:23] <ioria> _AxS_, tell us more about this wpa-supplicant gui  ...
[19:23] <hdon> or if someone knows a non-graphical xml editor / xpath query evaluator, that would be pretty nice
[19:24] <_AxS_> ioria: it's a small panel applet, connects to wpa_supplicant in the background to control it and manages /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf if so configured to be allowed.
[19:24] <johnzorn> Whats the difference between the 2 packages: traceroute vs inettools-traceroute?
[19:25] <ioria> _AxS_,  github, debian, arch aur ... where ?
[19:25] <_AxS_> network-manager just does the same thing but also handles the rest of the network stack.  wpa_supplicant generally (iirc) will launch a dhcp client to configure after association, so there's no further setup you can do but that's good for 98% of the time..
[19:25] <tgm4883> johnzorn: looks like everything before the dash
[19:25] <_AxS_> ioria: i'm on Gentoo; i'm certain its available on other distros though.
[19:25] <ioria> _AxS_,  ok, thanx
[19:25] <_AxS_> ioria: 'wpa_gui' is the binary
[19:25] <ioria> _AxS_,  oki
[19:26] <tgm4883> johnzorn: I think it's just a transitional package
[19:26] <ioria> _AxS_,  same on arch...
[19:26] <_AxS_> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/wpagui/  <-- ioria
[19:26] <tgm4883> johnzorn: doesn't look like it contains any binaries http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/traceroute/filelist
[19:26] <ioria> _AxS_,  stucked at 13
[19:27] <panina> bekks - apart from not connecting upon thaw and all the other hassle, my laptop isn't accepting dns servers from my dhcp. I have a suspicion that that might be network-manager as well....
[19:27] <panina> jatt, I've heard the name wicd before, I'll check it out
[19:28] <ioria> !info wpagui
[19:29] <panina> _AxS_ that sounds interesting. I like working with wpa_supplicant, since it's rather basic, but I haven't figured all the ins & outs out yet. But I'll definitely check it out
[19:29] <onur_> hi
[19:30] <onur_> ı'm a hacker
[19:32] <panina> srsly though, whose bright idea was it to make the new apt's search do two-liners?
[19:32] <scaldwell> @akik I almost did that but when I looked at swap usage I realized my main service (prod) would shift EVERYTHING to RAM rather than to the other swap file.  That would be bad. ;-)
[19:32] <panina> and was it just to make grep'ing more difficult?
[19:33] <akik> scaldwell: do you have enough swap on the new swap area?
[19:34] <akik> scaldwell: and can you share the amounts?
[19:34] <scaldwell> I have 32GB on the new swap area.  I have 4GB on the old swap area.
[19:35] <akik> scaldwell: how much ram in use?
[19:35] <scaldwell> 16GB Total/16MB free
[19:35] <akik> (and swap)
[19:35] <scaldwell> 1GB out of 4GB is currently swapped.
[19:36] <scaldwell> This server needs love.
[19:36] <akik> scaldwell: a way to clear the caches "one-shot" is using sync and then echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[19:36] <akik> scaldwell: that might show you the real amount that your apps are using
[19:36] <scaldwell> yeah.  I have a script called free_caches that does that.
[19:36] <scaldwell> The problem is that we're in business hours.  Load is high
[19:36] <okami> guys can one help me with this problem : http://superuser.com/questions/1089054/reroute-my-traffic-to-another-adapter
[19:37] <scaldwell> This looks like another after-hours solution.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> scaldwell: A thought, make sure the syste, is using the swap you think it is ' swapon --summary ' ?
[19:39] <scaldwell> The numbers I have provided above were from swapon --summary
[19:41] <scaldwell> This might answer my question (not directly): http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/45673/how-can-swapoff-be-that-slow
[19:45] <iSlayWyverns> Good day everyone. Are AMD drivers still unable to install due to xorg version?
[19:46] <ikonia> I wasn't aware of them ever being unavailable
[19:46] <bekks> iSlayWyverns: Yes. And that will not change anymore.
[19:46] <ikonia> explain ?
[19:46] <bekks> ikonia: that old ati drivers are gone, dont they?
[19:46] <ikonia> oh, the old propitary ones
[19:46] <ikonia> not the current ones that are open and part of xorg
[19:47] <_AxS_> ikonia: there's still a proprietary one too, that has a new structure and needs latest xorg, iirc?
[19:47] <ikonia> _AxS_: I don't know, I'd not heard about it not being available
[19:48] <Jordan_U> iSlayWyverns: The old fglrx stack is never going to work with current or future Xorg/kernel versions (at least that is how it appears). The new AMD GPU pro stack, which is ATI's new proprietary userland to go with their open kerbel driver is still in development, but betas are available.
[19:48] <ioria> !info fglrx
[19:48] <_AxS_> ikonia: amdgpu-pro drivers i think they're called
[19:48] <iSlayWyverns> soo no Steam for me on 16.04?
[19:48] <bekks> iSlayWyverns: Depends on your graphics card.
[19:48] <iSlayWyverns> I have an old HD5750
[19:48] <_AxS_> iSlayWyverns: radeon with ati firmware handles a lot of 3d accelleration
[19:48] <iSlayWyverns> I think it's not supported in the new Drivers (openGPU)
[19:49] <Jordan_U> iSlayWyverns: For most hardware not supported by AMDGPU the fully open drivers are actually on par with fglrx in most ways, and can play many modern Steam games.
[19:49] <iSlayWyverns> Jordan_U, well I don't believe that much - but I'll give it a try
[19:50] <_AxS_> iSlayWyverns: amd provides the firmware that the in-kernel drivers use, so that's why it's on par
[19:51] <Apocope> Is anyone here using icinga or icinga2-classicui under Xenial?
[19:51] <scaldwell> @akik, @bashing-om Here's some good info on deactivating swap FWIW.  I figure I would share it since you guys were willing to help me dig into this. ;-)  https://www.kernel.org/doc/gorman/html/understand/understand014.html#toc81
[19:51] <Bashing-om> iSlayWyverns: QIII's testimony that the new opensource AMD drivers outperform FGLRX in some instances : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317199#post13504123 .
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> Apocope  that's a yes/o question, better ask your real question
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> yes/no*
[19:52] <Bashing-om> scaldwell: :) reading .
[19:52] <scaldwell> "If there was not enough available memory to page in all the entries, the swap area is reinserted back into the running system as it cannot be simply dropped. "
[19:53] <scaldwell> Funny thing is that the code hasn't really changed much it seems.
[19:53] <Apocope> I'm trying to get either icinga or icinga2-classicui working in Xenial. Under both, the menu on the left displays for a moment and then slides up and is invisible.
[19:54] <codfection> hello
[19:54] <codfection> how to use numpad
[19:55] <codfection> on ubuntu
[19:55] <codfection> keyboard is working fine but when I try to use numpad
[19:55] <codfection> it acts as mouse
[19:55] <codfection> and starts scrolling
[19:55] <k1l> press "numlock"
[19:56] <codfection> tried
[19:56] <codfection> keyboard is wireless : logitech k345
[19:56] <iSlayWyverns> Bashing-om, on the newest hardware?
[19:58] <iSlayWyverns> I can't fix screen tearing & improve perfomance in some instances - but anyway.
[19:59] <akik> scaldwell: did you have some doubts that the new 32 gig swap partition wouldn't work in the change?
[19:59] <iSlayWyverns> As for the AMD-GPUopen... I trust that, and I had read articles myself... It's the old hardware that's getting outdated now.
[20:00] <scaldwell> @akik my fear was that the memory would be paged back into RAM and if that failed the memory block would not be paged out to the new swap (leading to a possible OOME ...and a lot of people clapping in applause at my faceplant).  ;-)
[20:02] <scaldwell> There is a job running on this server that I can't interrupt right now.  Once that job finishes, I am going to try this.  Worst case, people will clap, I will get to do some paperwork.  But overall I think once the current job is done, I can take the risk and share the results.
[20:02] <Bashing-om> iSlayWyverns: The hardware is not the issue ,, it is the software able to interceed with the hardware .. 14.04 I do not think has that ability . I do think the best you can do in 14.04 is version 364 . Even on relase 16.10 a driver is only available for us in the PPA .
[20:02] <scaldwell> In theory this should work fine...  In theory.
[20:02] <bekks> scaldwell: Why do you need to restart?
[20:03] <scaldwell> There will be no restart...unless things go badly
[20:03] <Bashing-om> iSlayWyverns: Opps .. wires crossed again in regard to Nvidia .
[20:03] <codfection> keyboard is working fine but when I try to use numpad
[20:03] <codfection> it acts as mouse
[20:03] <iSlayWyverns> Bashing-om, On 14.04 it worked (still works?)
[20:03] <bekks> scaldwell: Are you trying to deactivate swap?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> iSlayWyverns: Yes ... FGLRX is supported in 14.04 . But AMD has dropped support for older cards .
[20:05] <brahim> salut
[20:07] <iSlayWyverns> Bashing-om, http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux HD5000 series still here...
[20:07] <iSlayWyverns> pardon me: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86_64
[20:08] <k1l> iSlayWyverns: there is no fglrx and catalyst from 16.04 on
[20:09] <iSlayWyverns> k1l, Where can I look at then?
[20:09] <_AxS_> iSlayWyverns: here -- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon#Firmware  <-- all you ever wanted to know (and even more you don't) about getting your radeon working with in-kernel drivers
[20:10] <k1l> iSlayWyverns: amd dropped fglrx now. they support amd_gpu. but i guess they will drop a lot of old devices now.
[20:14] <iSlayWyverns> Nonetheless, thanks for info!
[20:15] <Sheepolution> What is the best theme configurator out there?
[20:16] <kyle__> vim.
[20:16] <Sheepolution> I was thinking more of a GUI :P
[20:17] <nacc> Sheepolution: #ubuntu-offtoic
[20:17] <bekks> Sheepolution: gvim
[20:17] <nacc> err, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:17] <Sheepolution> nacc, Ah thanks
[20:17] <Guest89066> who is who ?
[20:18] <kyle__> Omit the space and the question mark, and used a fully qualified domain to use whois.
[20:19] <kyle__> And the fact that who.is is registered, is both obvious and very satisfying.
[20:24] <nolsen> Will allowing ports conflict with blocked ips on ufw?
[20:24] <est31> a little question
[20:24] <nolsen> Been trying to be able to block ips, but they don't work for some reason.
[20:24] <est31> installing kubuntu and I think it has the same installer as ubuntu
[20:24] <_AxS_> nolsen: more details please, what are you using to do this blocking and/or allowing?
[20:25] <est31> wondering about setting up lvm via the manual option dialog
[20:25] <k1l> est31: it has a different one. but ask here or in #kubuntu and people will try to help
[20:25] <est31> I want encrypted / and /home but I want them separate
[20:26] <nolsen> sudo ufw reject from ip-goes-here to any port ****
[20:27] <_AxS_> ah, ufw is a cli for firewall settings..  right.  WELL, if you were using iptables etc directly, then order matters.  but i've no idea about ufw
[20:28] <lordcirth> Best to use entirely ufw, or entirely not.  Mixing iptables frontends gets confusing fast.
[20:28] <nolsen> Tried iptables, but it doesn't block ips either.
[20:28] <nolsen> Maybe ufw rules is conflicting
[20:28] <_AxS_> for sure.  but how does order for reject / allow work with ufw?  i ask just because i haven't used it.  ie, if one rejects source-ip , and then allows ports , does that work?
[20:29] <_AxS_> nolsen: huh?  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s <IP_ADDRESS>/32 -j REJECT   ...rejects anything coming from <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:30] <Mikelevel> nolsen~ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW#Allow_Access
[20:30] <_AxS_> (note tis is off the top of my head, and could have syntax errors)
[20:30] <nolsen> _AxS_: But it doesn't reject.
[20:30] <_AxS_> nolsen: then there must be a rule above it that allows the traffic first
[20:31] <_AxS_> nolsen: that's what i was saying about order.  if you put that as the first rule, it'll guaranteed'ly reject all traffic where that ip address is the source.
[20:31] <nolsen> Could it be these? [ 4] ****/tcp                   ALLOW IN    Anywhere
[20:31] <_AxS_> nolsen: but, again, don't mix ufw and iptables or ufw and anything-else
[20:33] <nolsen> _AxS_: Maybe I should try disabling ufw then.
[20:34] <_AxS_> nolsen: i'm sure you can do this in ufw, you just need to read up more on it.  Mikelevel's link likely would help
[20:36] <_AxS_> nothing against using iptables/ebtables/etc.etc directly, its plenty powerful, but its not user-friendly and definitely not forgiving if you leave any sort of gaping hole, or clamp down too hard, with your rules.
[20:37] <nolsen_> Well I prefer my script use iptables and use ufw for other stuff.
[20:38] <nolsen_> What should I check then?
[20:43] <valvazork> quit
[20:47] <nolsen_> _AxS_: ?
[20:50] <_AxS_> nolsen: i'm sure there's a way to do this with ufw.  that said, the best way to keep them from colliding would be to add a table at the top of INPUT, in that table reject ip addresses you want to reject, and then have a 'RETURN' at the bottom.
[20:52] <computer> anyone knows how to use ffmpeg, i am getting errors that i do not understand
[20:52] <bekks> computer: So share them in a pastebin.
[20:53] <computer> bekks: ok 1 moment
[20:55] <bipul> Hello, I am unable to read my access my USB. Kindly need a assistance.
[20:55] <bipul> Unable to access*
[20:55] <bekks> bipul: When doing ehat exactly?
[20:57] <bipul> I was trying to make a bootable usb for my Xenial 16.04 through startup disk creator. But after making it bootable, my system is not detecting anything on usb.
[20:57] <computer> bekks: sorry taking some time, i lost the error when i restarted my computre, generating it now again
[20:57] <bipul> anything from USB
[20:57] <bekks> bipul: How did you creat the bootable USB? How are you checking wether your systems detects it?
[20:59] <bipul> I have created a bootable pendrive from startup disk creator. then i inserted into my system to install, but my system is not able to detect.
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> bipul  you mean in the bios? did you hit F12 during startup?
[21:00] <bipul> yes everything, now i am not able to read it
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> bipul  do you have more than one usb stick? try the other then
[21:01] <bipul> I lost image file now :( I am looking for 32 bit 16.04
[21:03] <ptnecniv> Bashing-om: hey, i have an hour or two if you want to give debugging my install another shot
[21:08] <C_minus> What does "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." from apt mean?
[21:08] <est31> C_minus, it means trouble
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  type   sudo apt -f install
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[21:10] <C_minus> MonkeyDust, what that command you just sent me?
[21:11] <C_minus> MonkeyDust, it didn't solve it. When I try to install the thing I originally wanted, I get the same error.
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  sudo apt -f install ? it's very common, -f means fix
[21:11] <gin> is there some way to prevent screenlock when you connect a hdmi cable, rather annoying having to enable disable the screenlock all the time when you need to do a presentation
[21:11] <lordcirth> C_minus, if you want to know something does, run 'man <cmd>' and search for the option.
[21:12] <EriC^^> gin: make a udev rule that disables it when you plug an hdmi device
[21:12] <C_minus> Here's precisely what it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17341194/
[21:13] <gin> EriC^^, that is indeed a brilliant idea, thanks
[21:13] <EriC^^> gin: no problem
[21:14] <lordcirth> C_minus, Well, do you use Empathy's IRC plugin a lot?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[21:14] <C_minus> lordcirth I don't have it yet. Hence why I am trying to install it.
[21:14] <lordcirth> C_minus, do you use Empathy for other things?
[21:14] <C_minus> no
[21:15] <C_minus> MonkeyDust it says: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[21:15] <lordcirth> C_minus, then don't use it for IRC.  Just use a real IRC client, like Hexchat
[21:15] <C_minus> lordcirth, you're kind of missing the point here. I get this error from time to time trying to install various things.
[21:15] <lordcirth> Not, strictly speaking, a solution to your question, but empathy's IRC isn't that great.
[21:15] <setuid> Any plymouth experts around? I can't seem to get plymouth to prompt for the password when I'm using full disk encryption... tried EVERYTHING, including using grub-customizer, plymouth-manager, adding GFXPAYLOAD=auto, fixplymouth script, etc.
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  and you can't   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    either?
[21:16] <lordcirth> C_minus, well, thankfully, apt -f install tells you exactly what the problem is each time.  However, it's strange that it happens regularly.
[21:16] <setuid> The ONLY thing that works, is to take 'quiet splash' out of /etc/default/grub, boot in text mode, and let cryptsetup prompt me
[21:17] <Bashing-om> ptnecniv: Sure, I am back . What is presently installed ? ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia ' in a paste site .
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  pastebin the output of    cat /etc/apt/sources.list|grep -v ^#
[21:18] <C_minus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17341354/
[21:18] <lordcirth> setuid, have you made any changes to your initrd?
[21:19] <ptnecniv> Bashing-om: i'm currently stuck in a login loop (i think if i install bumblebee it will fix that). paste from termbin incoming
[21:19] <computer> bekks: the error is as follows https://da.gd/OvBq1
[21:19] <setuid> lordcirth, Dozens, when I've run 'update-initramfs' trying to fix this, and the nvidia driver installation did also
[21:19] <lordcirth> setuid, did it work before nvidia driver?
[21:19] <setuid> Yes, though in 640x480, but that's tolerable
[21:20] <jackcom> what is chown?
[21:20] <setuid> This claimed fix, does not fix it: https://onetransistor.blogspot.com/2016/03/plymouth-fix-nvidia.html
[21:20] <Bashing-om> C_minus: @ 14.04.3 you are not updated .. we are at the .4 release .
[21:20] <k1l> jackcom: have a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions its worth learning that
[21:21] <C_minus> Bashing-om, oh so I have an old version of Ubuntu? How did that happen? How can I update?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  and you can't   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    either?
[21:21] <C_minus> MonkeyDust, I tried that, it downloaded a bunch of whatever (I said 'y') but the error persists.
[21:22] <jackcom> k1l: chown instead of chmod
[21:22] <Bashing-om> C_minus: What results . ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install '
[21:22] <lordcirth> setuid, is it this bug or different: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1359689
[21:22] <jackcom> :| ]
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  try dist-upgrade ... it's not same as release-upgrade or, so don't worry
[21:22] <k1l> jackcom: the page explains in detail what is what. please read it it will make you know things and not needing to ask here every time.
[21:22] <computer> The error i get with ffmpeg is as follows: https://da.gd/OvBq1  anyone can help?
[21:23] <jackcom> :|  every time
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> !info winff | computer
[21:23] <C_minus> MonkeyDust "dist-upgrade"?
[21:23] <scaldwell> @bashing-om, @akik : follow up on earlier swap discussion,  swapoff will decommission a swap file to another swapfile without killing a high traffic machine.  Worked like a charm. (yay)
[21:23] <lordcirth> That's quite a compression ratio
[21:23] <computer> MonkeyDust: how do i know the error won't carry over?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  yes sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:24] <k1l> computer: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:24] <setuid> lordcirth, No, nothing at all like that... I get a black screen, where I can VISIBLY type my password
[21:24] <lordcirth> C_minus, 'upgrade' holds back some updates. dist-upgrade does all.
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> computer  play a bit with it and find out, it's fun
[21:24] <lordcirth> setuid, it shows plaintext?
[21:24] <setuid> IOW, password shows up as text on the console, yes
[21:24] <computer> k1l: latest 16.04
[21:24] <Bashing-om> scaldwell: :) .. safety is no accident .. pleased ya found a good way .
[21:24] <C_minus> MonkeyDust nope, same problem.
[21:24] <k1l> computer: ok. so ffmpeg should work since its included now again. is it installed?
[21:24] <ptnecniv> Bashing-om: might be a bit, i have some connectivity issues at the moment. tomorrow might be a better day
[21:24] <setuid> -sometimes- I see the plymouth graphic, and a cursor in upper-right. If I switch to another vt, ,then back, the splash is gone, and I can type my password (VISIBLY) on the screen, but it doesn't unlock the volume
[21:25] <setuid> it's just displayed there, nothing is configured to 'catch' the password
[21:25] <computer> k1l: yes
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  repeat, somewhat more advanced ... I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[21:25] <Bashing-om> ptnecniv: K.. at your pace . We find the reason why .
[21:25] <computer> k1l: i used it before and it worked fine, but low quality
[21:27] <lerner> I need to edit a m4a file (audio), what program can I use?
[21:27] <C_minus> OK I'll let you know thanks MonkeyDust
[21:27] <computer> k1l: any idea what the error means?
[21:27] <winston2k> lerner: have you tried audacity
[21:28] <C_minus> MonkeyDust no that didn't help.
[21:29] <setuid> lordcirth, If I set 'quiet splash' in grub.conf, I get a blank screen, and my password when typed, shows up, but does nothing... if I use 'quiet nosplash', I don't get a graphical plymouth, but cryptsetup prompts me for my password, which works.
[21:30] <setuid> I don't understand how 'splash' vs. 'nosplash' either does, or does not catch my password - they should be entirely unrelated!
[21:31] <jackcom> man vs —help, which is better?
[21:31] <k1l> computer: i find a lot of issues with convert and ffmpeg. dont know how to fix that
[21:31] <soLucien> how can i tell if a user is sudo ?
[21:31] <k1l> jackcom: --hlp is short
[21:31] <soLucien> or admin
[21:31] <soLucien> ?
[21:31] <setuid> soLucien, echo $REALUSER
[21:31] <jackcom> ok thanks k1l
[21:31] <jackcom> :)
[21:31] <Fuchs> jackcom: depends on what you need, --help tends to be shorter and a quick reference, while man pages are detailled
[21:31] <Fuchs> jackcom: if you know what you want to do but now how: probably --help
[21:32] <jackcom> ok thanks Fuchs :)
[21:32] <EriC^^> soLucien: sudo -l
[21:32] <soLucien> i tried cat /etc/passwd but i dont understand the output
[21:32] <soLucien> also /etc/groups
[21:32] <computer> k1l: hmmmm, do you know anyone i could ask, i tried winff from it does not have the option i want
[21:33] <k1l> you could ask the imagemagik guys about that. or the ffmpeg
[21:34] <ptnecniv> Bashing-om: yeah, the network in my office is down at the moment. this machine is hardwired so i can talk/work, but the laptop we are debugging is not and i dont have another cable so...yeah
[21:34] <jackcom> what is Tor?
[21:34] <setuid> jackcom, UTSL
[21:34] <jackcom> UTSL?
[21:34] <setuid> lordcirth, Any ideas?
[21:34] <lordcirth> setuid, and when you run with "quiet" what happens?
[21:34] <setuid> Use the Seach Luke
[21:34] <Luke> ?
[21:34] <jackcom> ok
[21:35] <setuid> lordcirth, using 'quiet nosplash', I get a shortened text output boot + cryptsetup password prompt
[21:35] <nacc> Luke: i think incidental namespace collision :)
[21:35] <lordcirth> setuid, and with 'quiet' by itself?
[21:35] <setuid> lordcirth, If I use 'quiet splash', I get a graphical boot, and visible password, but the words I type aren't sent to cryptsetup
[21:35] <k1l> jackcom: this is ubuntu support. for general chat please use other channels.
[21:35] <computer> k1l: ffmpeg channel
[21:35] <setuid> lordcirth, I haven't tried without 'splash' nor 'nosplash', give me a sec, I'll try that
[21:35] <jackcom> k1l: ok thanks then i will go to #linux
[21:35] <computer> k1l: ?
[21:35] <k1l> !alis | computer i dont know the exact channel names
[21:36] <setuid> I was just going to try to forcibly remove plymouth, but someone made cryptsetup depend on IT (which is *WRONG*), so I can't remove it without killing my system
[21:36] <setuid> oddly, lightdm, unity-greeter and xfce4-indicator-plugin also depend on plymouth... (also *WRONG*)
[21:37] <lordcirth> setuid, yeah that is a bad idea, isn't it?
[21:37] <lordcirth> I didn't know that cryptsetup did, that's strange
[21:37] <setuid> can't remove plymouth without pulling all of those packages out
[21:38] <lerner> whats the difference between joint stereo and stereo?
[21:38] <setuid> once you do that, you can never get back into your system again
[21:38] <ThePendulum> Apparently as of 16.04 ubuntu will display an fsck message during boot, e.g. "clean, 291272/4292608 files, 480345/18174432 blocks". However, on my (l)ubuntu installation, this message keeps prompting itself over everything else. Any idea how to approach this?
[21:38] <setuid> lordcirth, Ok, with -just- 'quiet', I get a text prompt for my password, no graphical boot, no plymouth at all
[21:41] <lordcirth> setuid, the same as with 'quiet nosplash' ?
[21:41] <setuid> Correct
[21:41] <jalloh> anable to get audio from my ubuntu mate on Raspberry Pi 3 ? HELP
[21:44] <lordcirth> setuid, I think this is more of a plymouth+nvidia problem than a plymouth+cryptsetup problem.
[21:44] <setuid> Right... but removing the nvidia drivers, gives me a broken X environment
[21:45] <lordcirth> setuid, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-get-plymouth-working-with-nvidia.html
[21:45] <setuid> Yep, tried that too... doesn't work
[21:45] <lordcirth> setuid, no change at all?
[21:47] <Bogdar> Hello! I have legacy local network with couple of unknown systems. I would like to monitor all broadcast traffic and record every unique IP address found.  What tool can I use? Are there are something better then manual tcpdump records  parsing?
[21:48] <est31> Bogdar, there is wireshark
[21:49] <In4rtia> yeap use Wireshark
[21:49] <james1138> Hello all. Question for group... has anyone worked with "WattOS R9"?  It is supposed to be based on Ubuntu.
[21:50] <setuid> lordcirth, Nope, same exact results
[21:50] <setuid> Going to try 1024x768
[21:50] <irregular> Hi guys, I recently bought a second monitor to go with my linux laptop. How can I prevent the taskbar from coming up inbetween the border of the 2 monitors?
[21:50] <setuid> maybe something in the nvidia driver is dorking up higher resolution at boot
[21:50] <k1l> james1138: we can only support official ubuntu flavors in here. you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, ##linux or their support channel
 try #linux
[21:51] <james1138> Thanks
[21:52] <In4rtia> You are welcome!
[21:52] <setuid> The only combination that apparently works, is removing 'quiet' and adding 'nosplash'
[21:52] <setuid> I just don't get a graphical boot
[21:52] <lordcirth> setuid, didn't you say that 'quiet' got the same result as well?
[21:53] <setuid> quiet on its own, and 'quiet nosplash' are identical results, but quiet omits some useful bootup debug info
[21:53] <setuid> so I guess I'll stick with a text boot, using 'nosplash' and without 'quiet'
[21:54] <lordcirth> setuid, that's what I do, though I'm not using cryptsetup atm.
[21:54] <okami_> hello everyone
[21:55] <lordcirth> okami_, hi
[21:55] <setuid> lordcirth, I have to... company requirement :)
[21:55] <est31> how can I add an EFI system partition
[21:55]  * setuid works for @canonical ;)
[21:55] <est31> in the minimal installation disk
[21:55] <okami_> guys what is the best way to make a simple gui interface for command line program ?
[21:55] <est31> it does not show up
[21:56] <est31> err
[21:56] <est31> disregard that
[21:56] <est31> there is an entry
[21:56] <nacc> okami_: probably better asked in a different channel
[21:56] <lordcirth> setuid, you are lucky to work for a company that has a clue about encryption.  The last time I worked for a company that did, they required some random proprietary app that was Win only
[21:56]  * est31 is STUPID
[21:56] <okami_> nacc, sorry im kinda new to irc and im here because i use ubuntu so maybe there is a tool to do it
[21:57] <jamesd> okami_: try xdialog
[21:57] <est31> okami_, do you want the gui interface to be on the terminal
[21:57] <est31> or should it be in a separate window
[21:57] <okami_> est31, a seperate window
[21:57] <est31> ah okay
[21:58] <setuid> lordcirth, True, my last gig used some sort of Symantec product to do their FDE
[21:59] <Bashing-om> est31: minimal install does not support UEFI per the docs. However, I have seen that there is someway to make it happen , But, I do not know that means .
[21:59] <setuid> At least once a month, I'd have to forcibly shut down and then it would refuse my unlock password, and I'd have to call support and have them give me the unique override
[21:59] <lordcirth> setuid, seems to me that if you work at Canonical, you should bug someone there to fix it :)
[22:00] <setuid> ha!
[22:00] <lordcirth> I mean, it's a legit problem with their software.
[22:03] <setuid> Well, no... most-likely with nvidia's proprietary hooks to initramfs
[22:04] <lordcirth> setuid, which is in Ubuntu repos.  Still their problem, even if it's not their fault.
[22:09] <setuid> I *WILL* figure this out ;)
[22:14] <solidpizza> hello I am having an issue trying to run steam on ubuntu 16.04 64 bits
[22:15] <solidpizza> let me paste the output
[22:15] <lordcirth> solidpizza, pastebin, I hope
[22:15] <solidpizza> lordcirth: I'm all about that | pastebinit
[22:16] <katerina_> Hey! I am in the final phase installing gentoo dual boot with ubuntu; I want to add an entry for gentoo in my ubuntu's grub. /dev/sda9 is my gentoo's root partition, and sda10 the swap one. So I will edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom in ubuntu by adding these lines http://pastebin.com/07eg54T3. Do you think its ok ?
[22:17] <solidpizza> here is my output from steam complaining about libGL http://paste.ubuntu.com/17343152/
[22:18] <solidpizza> oh yeah I am using KDE ubuntu i'm not sure if that affects it or not
[22:22] <lordcirth> solidpizza, common problem, one sec
[22:23] <lordcirth> solidpizza, You need the nvidia libs in 32bit as well for Steam.
[22:24] <bambanx> hi
[22:25] <lordcirth> bambanx, hi
[22:25] <solidpizza> lordcirth: just to make sure, I have amd radeon graphics, so I also need to have the nvidia 32 libs?
[22:25] <lordcirth> solidpizza, oh, sorry, no.  You would need mesa 32bit libs, I think
[22:25] <bambanx> hey lordcirth evening your majesty
[22:25] <solidpizza> lordcirth: oh ok I'll try that
[22:26] <est31> man i really like the minimal network install
[22:26] <est31> its cool
[22:28] <solidpizza> lordcirth: brb, going to reboot
[22:28] <Bashing-om> est31: And a faster boot , faster desktop AND you have just what you want . :)
[22:29] <est31> exactly
[22:29] <est31> Its not that I am not savvy enough for arch linux
[22:29] <kshenoy> solidpizza: What witchcraft is this I'm hearing about?
[22:29] <est31> I am just LAZY
[22:30] <est31> ubuntu helps me being lazy
[22:30] <est31> so ubuntu is my distro
[22:30] <kshenoy> est31: I did try Arch as a VM but I couldn't get it to resize so here I am
[22:33] <Bashing-om> est31: You will find that you have some fine tuning to do . anacron ? see /etc/crontab . I bet ya want to install .
[22:34] <est31> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kubuntu-desktop
[22:34] <est31> its dependency of the package i am installing
[22:35] <est31> and which services need to be executed regularly anyway?
[22:35] <est31> checking for updates, what else?
[22:36] <k1l> a minimalinstall with installing kubuntu-desktop afterwards is like installing the kubuntu iso in the first place
[22:36] <est31> not really
[22:36] <est31> there is kubuntu-full
[22:36] <est31> the iso installs that one i think
[22:36] <k1l> no, i dont think its the full install on the kubuntu iso
[22:37] <est31> oh
[22:38] <est31> seems I've installed all that "recomended" bloat
[22:38] <est31> yeah, precisely what I wanted to avoid
[22:38] <est31> well, seems I'll apt-get remove and then autoremove
[22:38] <est31> and then nuke home to be 100% sure
[22:38] <Bashing-om> est31: ' --no-install-remommrnds ' ??
[22:39] <Bashing-om> recommends*
[22:39] <est31> yeah
[22:39] <est31> will do that after that
[22:39] <est31> after the nuke
[22:39] <est31> thought it was the default
[22:54] <nolsen> For some reason, netstat is reporting tcp6 on ipv4 connections...
[22:55] <jembut> hi
[22:58] <est31> wow
[22:58] <est31> its really faster
[22:58] <est31> quite cool xD
[22:59] <jembut> qiet
[23:04] <Jordan_U> nolsen: Please tell the exact command you're running and pastebin its complete output.
[23:08] <nolsen> Jordan_U: https://paste.kde.org/ppbbo4x97/kdgjly/raw
[23:08] <nolsen> Just netstat.
[23:16] <nolsen> Worst part is tcpkill doesn't kill them.
[23:31] <sveinse> Just found an interesting bug in grep and ls: I cannot do ( cd /lib/systemd/system; ls * ) on 16.04. It return "ls: invalid option -- '.'". Same does grep
[23:41] <dancingd3mon__> beginner question, how to add some location to my PATH ?
[23:46] <krytarik> !path | dancingd3mon__
[23:48] <krytarik> (Scroll up there.)
[23:50] <dancingd3mon__> thanks man
[23:50] <dancingd3mon__> don't want to sound dumb but what to edit to make it permenant
[23:51] <dancingd3mon__> I did this export PATH=$PATH:Location1:location2
[23:51] <dancingd3mon__> but which file exactly should i edit so everytime i log out of SSH and log back in, It's already there without having to rewrite it.
[23:51] <allure> hey... is it normal that users other than the admin user on a desktop 16.04 can't connect to wifi networks?
[23:52] <gin> dancingd3mon__, .bashrc is a option
[23:53] <nacc> allure: depends on how it was added; but if done by network-manager, you might need to indicate it's available to all users
[23:53] <nacc> allure: or do you mean any other users are unable to use wifi at all?
[23:53] <k1l> allure: check the network-manager entry for that wifi and make sure its checked "can be used by all users"
[23:55] <dancingd3mon__> gin, where exactly in .bashrc? I can't seem to find were to write it.
[23:55] <allure> nacc: they see the networks, but when they put the password, it wont connect and diplays an error that doesnt explain anything :D
[23:55] <allure> k1l: ok
[23:55] <gin> dancingd3mon__, its not sure it gets created by default these days, ~/.bashrc
[23:56] <dancingd3mon__> oh so what should i type there?
[23:56] <k1l> dancingd3mon__: what do you want to do?
[23:56] <gin> dancingd3mon__, what ever you type in there gets executed when you open a new bash shell, so you can add aliases, paths, scripts etc
[23:56] <k1l> dancingd3mon__: for easy handling you can put stuff in "bin" folder in your users home. after a relogin that is included in path already
[23:58] <gin> dancingd3mon__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/540683/what-is-a-bashrc-file-and-what-does-it-do


[02:21] <ausimage> anybody awake tonight???
[02:22] <ausimage> jenda:???
[02:23] <ausimage> I want talk with someone about the fridge calendar....
[02:25] <ausimage> you get my email address from w.u.c/Ausimage. I would love to speak to the person running the calendar... thanks...
[02:26] <ausimage> BTW I may or may not be on IRC you can try PM'ing me as well... or leave a messeage in #ubuntu-scribes... thank you again... hope to hear from one of you...