[17:43] <Comnenus> Is it possible to create a custom storage layout, then set it as the default?  I'm not finding anything either way on how to create it as a template - only per machine.


[14:05] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2014-March/018781.html
[14:05] <knome> pleia2, ^
[14:06] <pleia2> okie
[14:06]  * knome sighs at him volunteering for new thigns
[14:06] <pleia2> hehe
[14:08] <knome> i plan to intrigue balloons as a co-owner though
[14:08] <knome> canonical involvement \o/
[14:08] <knome> (and irc-active too...)
[14:24] <belkinsa> pleia2, I think we might need more active people for the owners of the mailing list since my request hasn't be filled yet.
[14:25] <belkinsa> knome, and I agree, we need canonical involvement too.
[14:25] <pleia2> belkinsa: see knome's email :)
[14:25] <belkinsa> I saw
[14:25] <pleia2> ok
[16:12] <godbyk> pleia2: We had a discussion about mailing list admins last August (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2013-August/017518.html for the start of the thread). I volunteered to be a mailing list admin, but it looks like that never came to pass.
[16:13] <godbyk> pleia2: Do you know how we becoming mailing list admins for the ubuntu-docs list? It's different than the mailing list I manage through Launchpad for ubuntu-manual.
[21:12] <pleia2> godbyk: if he doesn't pipe up, mdke should add someone (he's usually responsive if you email directly)
[21:13] <pleia2> last option is someone on the CC contacting Canonical IS for the password (I had to do this for the marketing list)
[21:13] <godbyk> pleia2: Okay. I'll ping mdke and see if he can add some of us to the admins list.
[21:13] <godbyk> pleia2: Thanks!
[21:15] <pleia2> sure thing :)


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[09:57] <kc2bez> @DePlague that doesn't seem very related to Lubuntu Development
 Ohh sorry wrong one (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez> @DePlague that doesn't seem very related to Lubuntu Development)
 @kc2bez @wxl23 @teward001 the idea is to switch to picom?
 hmm?  (err:missing context?) (re @HMollerCl: @kc2bez @wxl23 @teward001 the idea is to switch to picom?)
 sorry, compósitors
 compton vs picom
[13:27] <kc2bez> Yes, that is the plan.
[13:27] <kc2bez> At least for the short term.
 Is there a path for it? because compton has a config tool and it appear as lxqt-module, the second one is easy to do with picom the first one needs more time, I think wit pyqt and Qsettings it can be done but it take time.
 *a roadmap
[13:31] <kc2bez> It needs someone to work on it but here is the task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
 OK, I will drop my ideas there
[13:32] <kc2bez> Sounds good, thanks!


[00:08] <seb128> mvo, there?
[00:13] <seb128> mvo, when would be a good time to sit and do the compiz changes?
[00:51] <chrisccoulson> well, i think i might get an early night
[00:55] <mvo> seb128: we can do them now I guess
[00:55] <mvo> seb128: I just need to finish another task first
[00:56] <seb128> mvo, ok, ping me when ready
[00:56] <seb128> mvo, and tell me where you want to go
[00:56] <seb128> mvo, ie if you have space in your room, we have some there in the desktop one
[00:56] <seb128> chrisccoulson, 1am?
[00:57] <seb128> chrisccoulson, not really early!
[00:57] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - it's quite early for me ;)
[00:57] <seb128> chrisccoulson, have a good night
[00:57] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yeah, for once I'm still working when you go to bed ;-)
[00:57] <chrisccoulson> good night, and enjoy the rest of your day :)
[00:57] <mvo> good night chrisccoulson
[00:57] <chrisccoulson> 'night mvo
[01:16] <seb128> mvo, hello?
[01:16] <mvo> seb128: hi, sorry - in a meeting
[01:17] <seb128> mvo, ok, tomorrow rather then now I guess?
[01:17] <mvo> seb128: yes, sorry
[01:17] <seb128> mvo, that's ok
[01:17] <seb128> mvo, let's say tomorrow morning then?
[01:17] <seb128> mvo, before something else book you again for meetings etc
[01:18] <seb128> ;-)
[01:18]  * seb128 hugs mvo
[01:18] <seb128> something -> somebody
[01:27] <tseliot> Keybuk: does "update-initramfs -u" update the latest kernel or does it update the current kernel?
[01:27] <Keybuk> kernel that will be used on the next reboot
[01:28] <tseliot> ok, so (usually) it should be the newest kernel
[01:28] <tseliot> thanks
[01:58] <seiflotfy> HEY GUYS
[01:58] <seiflotfy> is there a way of installing 2 different ubuntu distros on the same pc?
[01:59] <bryce2> seiflotfy, yes, but this is the wrong channel for that question
[01:59] <seiflotfy> oops srry
[01:59] <seiflotfy> where 2 go
[01:59] <seiflotfy> ?
[02:00] <bryce2> seiflotfy, to answer the question, just put in the other install cd and it will ofter to resize the partitions for the second install
[02:00] <bryce2> seiflotfy, go to #ubuntu or http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[02:00] <bryce2> seiflotfy, it's pretty easy, and if you have trouble the people there can help you
[02:01] <seiflotfy> i have a partition for it
[02:01] <seiflotfy> its just i want ot make sure i can boot karmic and lucic
[02:01] <seiflotfy> lucid
[02:24] <seb128> james_w, do you still have bug #495326 on your todolist?
[02:25] <seb128> james_w, we want to get bughugger in lucid and that's sort of blocking it, do you plan to upload the change soon or is that ok I do it?
[03:30] <onil> need help: my application windows blacks out frequently for a minute or so leaving other processes also stalled .During this process blinking LED stops blinking and continues to glow.No work can be done during that time till the black screen is gone .PLZ help me over this issue.I m a noob, migrated from windows to ubuntu.
[03:34] <bcurtiswx> bug #462994 .  I think its right to reopen the telepathy-mission-control bug, but it will have to stay with ubuntu and I think it should be fixable (and im ok if you feel differently).. and since the empathy part has desktop-bugs subscribed.. should they be assigned to the mission control bug?
[05:49] <jimisrvrox> having wireless problems would appreciate some help: http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[05:50] <vish> jimisrvrox: you can ask for Help/support in #ubuntu , but seems your problem might be better served in #nm
[05:51] <jimisrvrox> I wasnt even aware of the network manager chan thank you
[05:52] <vish> np..
[06:03] <jimisrvrox> glatzor: hey are you good with wireless?
[10:24] <chrisccoulson> grrrr, somebody is supplying a version of glib2.0 somewhere in a PPA for jaunty, which is making nautilus crash
[10:25] <chrisccoulson> users have started reporting nautilus crashes in jaunty since a few days ago
[10:28] <vish> chrisccoulson: elementary nautilus?
[10:45] <albasheers> how to convert pdf to word
[12:39] <gnomefreak> i cant recall the command to use when wanting to change the login settings, if someone knows it please let me know what it is
[12:50]  * Ng chuckles at his old X40. With an SSD the IO is so much faster that login is now CPU bound and the login sound seems to jump over itself and sounds like a weird remix
[13:56] <Nafai> Morning
[14:22] <chrisccoulson> hey Nafai
[14:22] <chrisccoulson> how are you?
[14:22] <Nafai> Doing pretty good.
[14:23] <Nafai> Really starting to click with C + Gtk.  :)  I've done C.  And I've done PyGtk.  But the intersection hasn't necessarily meant I would hit the ground running. :)
[14:24] <Nafai> How are you?  Got all your new fun hardware yet?
[14:25] <chrisccoulson> Nafai - yeah, i'm good thanks. apparently, my new hardware has arrived at the house today
[14:26] <chrisccoulson> so i'll get to play with it when i finish work :)
[14:26] <Nafai> yay
[14:26] <Nafai> Where are you located?
[14:26] <chrisccoulson> birmingham, UK
[14:26] <chrisccoulson> you?
[14:26] <Nafai> Pleasant Grove, Utah, USA
[14:27] <chrisccoulson> rodrigo_ - you there?
[14:37] <chrisccoulson> Nafai - what stuff are you working on at the moment? You're doing app inidicator things aren't you?
[14:40] <Nafai> Yeah
[14:41] <Nafai> Right now I'm working on porting gnome-control-center (basically the typing monitor) to app-indicators
[14:41] <chrisccoulson> Nafai - cool, that sounds quite interesting
[14:41] <Nafai> Yeah, it is.
[14:42] <chrisccoulson> i looked at porting the new tracker status icon to an application indicator, but the new system is not nearly flexible enough yet
[14:42] <chrisccoulson> the primary function of the new status icon for tracker is to indicate indexing progress, and it does that with a tooltip, and some progressbars in the menu
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> neither of which is supported by the app indicators yet ;)
[14:44] <Nafai> Yeah
[14:46] <rodrigo_> chrisccoulson, yes
[14:47] <chrisccoulson> hey rodrigo_ - some jaunty users seem to be upgrading to the glib version you have in your PPA
[14:47] <chrisccoulson> and then reporting nautilus crashes on launchpad
[14:47] <rodrigo_> chrisccoulson, oh
[14:47] <rodrigo_> chrisccoulson, do you have any backtrace?
[14:47] <chrisccoulson> rodrigo_ bug 516476, bug 515336 and bug 515437
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> nobody has provided a backtrace yet, but i closed the reports before i figured out i can view where the packages come from on launchpad
[14:50] <rodrigo_> chrisccoulson, the glib version in that PPA should be ABI compatible with the one in jaunty, so let me know when you get a backtrace, please
[14:51] <Nafai> rodrigo_: You are the upstream maintainer of gnome-control-panel, correct?  I'm working on a patch for app-indicator support...I'll have a patch attached to a bug when I'm finished.
[14:51] <rodrigo_> Nafai, I am one of the maintainers, yes
[14:56] <rodrigo_> Nafai, are you attaching the patch to launchpad, or gnome's bugzilla?
[14:56] <Nafai> I'll first attach it to launchpad, and after kenvandine approves it, I'll attach it to bugzilla
[14:58] <rodrigo_> ok
[16:06] <pitti> didrocks: bonjour
[16:14] <chrisccoulson> hey pitti
[16:14] <chrisccoulson> good morning ;)
[16:53] <milanbv> chrisccoulson: hi! do you think you'll find the time to package the g-s-t and friends soon?
[16:53] <milanbv> I think we really need more extensive testing before I release the last beta
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> milanbv: yes, it's still on my TODO list. but i've been busy recently :)
[16:54] <milanbv> yeah, I guess you have ;-)
[16:54] <hyperair> chrisccoulson: hey, got a minute for a PM?
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> hyperair: possibly
[17:02] <didrocks> hey pitti
[17:03] <didrocks> pitti: I was connected lately but I had my breakfast :)
[17:27] <popey> is there any chance someone can look at bug 420999? asac ?
[17:28] <popey> this is happening on a stock Ubuntu install 9.10, with a 3G dongle. No DNS entries are in /etc/resolv.conf, making net connection unusable, adding a nameserver entry manually sorts it, but it's messy.
[17:29] <popey> note: the bug says nm ppa, but the install I have here is from a shipit cd, no PPAs
[17:59] <pitti> rickspencer3: do you need me up there? I'm with Kees, debugging pm-utils (one of my sprint TODOs)
[18:00] <rickspencer3> pitti, heh
[18:00] <rickspencer3> I'm in the conference call room
[18:00] <rickspencer3> seb128, could you please take over whip cracking responsibilities?
[18:00] <rickspencer3> ;)
[18:00] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, stop talking and get to work!
[18:01] <kenvandine> hehe
[18:01] <seb128> rickspencer3, yes? ;-)
[18:01] <kenvandine> talking?
[18:01]  * seb128 whip cracking noises
[18:02] <rickspencer3> lol
[18:05]  * Nafai is glad he is out of reach of the whip
[18:06] <TheMuso> Ouch, that hurt. :p
[18:06] <Nafai> Someone needs to tell tedg that the API docs for libindicator on his site are broken.  The internal links don't work. :)
[18:15] <didrocks> rickspencer3: hum, I saw you have embedded quidgets tree in bughugger. Is that intentional? (and no rename to quickly-widget too)
[18:29] <djsiegel> Amaranth: ping
[18:31] <djsiegel> jcastro: hey
[18:32] <djsiegel> jcastro: think you could blog about some paper cuts today?
[18:32] <djsiegel> just mention 5 or 10 of them with links?
[18:42] <jcastro> djsiegel: Sure
[19:03] <vish> seb128: hi.. fix for Bug #487208  , just enables the theming support for the tooltips right?
[19:04] <seb128> vish, hi, what do you mean, what else do you want from gtk?
[19:04] <vish> seb128: nah , om26er marked the papercut task as fixed , i wanted to change it ..
[19:05]  * vish was just double checking
[19:06] <seb128> vish, the theme has not been updated yet if that's what you are asking for there
[19:06] <seb128> vish, but kwwii is on it
[19:07] <vish> seb128: yeah , kwwii was mentioning , but the bug was prematurely closed...  , I was just making sure:D
[19:07] <seb128> ok
[19:07] <seb128> to be clear the gtk task is fixed
[19:07] <seb128> please don't reopen this one
[19:07] <seb128> you can open a theme one though
[19:07] <vish> seb128: yup , i understood that :) , was about to open the theme task ;)
[19:07] <vish> thanks
[19:08] <seb128> np
[19:35] <seb128> pochu, hi
[19:35] <seb128> pochu, you should drop gir1.0-webkit-1.0 from the gir-introspection source
[19:35] <seb128> pochu, it's built by webkit nowadays
[20:04] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128
[20:04] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson
[20:04] <seb128> how are you?
[20:04] <chrisccoulson> yeah, good thanks. just playing around on my new hardware
[20:05] <seb128> what did you get?
[20:05] <seb128> your laptop is arrived?
[20:05] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - yeah, my laptop arrived today
[20:05] <seb128> nice!
[20:05] <seb128> which one did you take?
[20:05] <seb128> ssd drive?
[20:06] <chrisccoulson> i didn't get a ssd in the end (i've already spent quite a lot of money ;))
[20:06] <chrisccoulson> i just tried putting lucid on it
[20:06] <seb128> hum, "tried"
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> yeah, karmic works fine, and everything is supported
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> but lucid is completely unusable on it
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> it freezes before i've even had a chance to log in
[20:07] <seb128> urg
[20:07] <seb128> what dell is that?
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> and GDM doesn't show until i switch to a different VT and then switch back to the one that GDM is on
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> it's a E5500
[20:08] <seb128> did you try without splash?
[20:08] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - i'll try that in a second
[20:10] <chrisccoulson> right, without splash, it seems to boot ok
[20:10] <chrisccoulson> and it's gone for 30 seconds so far without freezing
[20:10] <chrisccoulson> i've even got to a usable desktop now
[20:11] <baptistemm_> hey
[20:11] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - so, booting without splash seems to fix it ;)
[20:11] <baptistemm_> chrisccoulson, I seen you're the latest who touched gnome-terminal, and I wanted to work to update to 2.29.6, how can i update the patch 99_autoconf
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> baptistemm_ - you can just run "autoreconf"
[20:12] <baptistemm_> okay
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> i think that is all that is in that patch
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> i only touched it recently to fix one of our patches
[20:15] <pitti> o/
[20:17] <seb128> chrisccoulson, good
[20:17] <seb128> chrisccoulson, usually "autoconf" is enough for those
[20:17] <seb128> baptistemm_, ^
[20:17] <seb128> if there is no makefile change
[20:17] <chrisccoulson> hey pitti
[20:18] <baptistemm_> should it be updated for each new release? or rather, how can I know when I should update such patch?
[20:18] <baptistemm_> seb128, okay
[20:18] <seb128> when it doesn't apply update it
[20:18] <seb128> which is usually on every new version
[20:25] <chrisccoulson> bah, it froze again
[20:35] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - it seems that my freeze is Xorg crashing
[20:35] <chrisccoulson> and it only happens when i hit the enter key
[20:35] <chrisccoulson> weird
[20:35] <seb128> indeed
[20:36] <seb128> is that an intel card?
[20:36] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - yeah, it's intel
[20:36] <chrisccoulson> i just installed sshd on it now, so I can make sure it's still alive when it happens next
[20:41] <TheMuso> chrisccoulson: Where does this happen?
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> TheMuso, on my dell latitude e5500. it appears to lock up after hitting the enter key a few times
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> but /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old would suggest that Xorg is crashing
[20:47] <geser> seb128: I'm having issues in using evince (lucid) in presentation mode on my dual-screen setup (http://www.bienia.de/tmp/evince-screenshot.png, the visible wallpaper is my smaller left monitor, the black part and the cutoff presentation the "main" monitor where evince is running in presentation mode). Is this a problem of evince or some library?
[20:48] <seb128> I don't know
[20:48] <seb128> I would say open a bug on evince
[20:48] <geser> ok, thanks
[20:48] <seb128> the multi screen configs are not that common and not well tested I guess
[21:45] <woozy> chrisccoulson: it probably also crashes if you have "blank display" set for lid-close and you actually close the lid ;)
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> woozy - i've not tried that yet
[21:45] <woozy> at least that's what the e6400/6500 does on intel
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> looks like i've got some serious debugging to do then
[21:46] <woozy> I also had problems logging in here, I think plymouth and X were fighting with each other
[21:46] <woozy> I got console messages and a cursor on top of it
[21:46] <woozy> and then it crashed
[21:47] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i just boot without splash now
[21:57] <pochu> seb128: oh I didn't notice it
[21:58] <pochu> seb128: will do, thanks
[21:58] <pochu> seb128: how's it going?
[22:12] <baptistemm_> seb128, hi! vte + gnome-terminal update sponsor request when you have time :)
[22:17] <baptistemm_> time to sleep, bye, good night for those living in my timezone
[22:24] <seb128> pochu, good thanks, what about you? we are in portland for a distro sprint this week
[22:27] <pochu> seb128: busy with exams but fine otherwise :)
[22:29] <seb128> pochu, oh, good luck with those ;-)
[22:30] <pochu> thank you!
[22:52] <crimsun> pitti: no sense in me pursuing the offlining of cpus: purportedly doing it consumes more power
[22:52] <crimsun> and really, linux would know to do the right thing with idle states
[23:09] <rickspencer3> oh didrocks ....
[23:09] <didrocks> yes rickspencer3?
[23:09] <rickspencer3> installing quickly-widgets doesn;t quite work
[23:09] <didrocks> hum? let me try now that it's built
[23:09] <rickspencer3> because the quickly/__init__.py file conflicts with the existing one
[23:10] <pitti> crimsun: hm, interesting; thanks for the update
[23:10] <didrocks> oh __init__.py in quickly/ directory, right
[23:10] <didrocks> rickspencer3: one sec, fixing it
[23:47] <bryce2> pitti, here is our old patch:  http://pastebin.com/f484fa089
[23:47] <pitti> bryce2: ah, thanks


[01:57] <designbybeck> So I installed Ubuntu 12.10 B2 on my 3years old Dell 10mini..... AMAZINGLY FAST!
[01:57] <designbybeck> so excited about this!!!
[01:57] <designbybeck> it is the best this has ever ran
[02:00] <designbybeck> the only odd thing I've found is no matter what i seem to play. I'm listening to Spotify right now.... but no matter what sound I play it only comes out ofthe right speaker
[02:26] <bjsnider> designbybeck, that's a new feature of the ubuntu sound server
[02:42] <IdleOne> hahaha
[02:42] <IdleOne> that can't be true
[03:22] <bjsnider> IdleOne, yeah but i like to mess with their heads by calling bugs features
[04:28] <alex_mayorga> Hello, all my folders open by default on disk analyzer =(
[04:29] <alex_mayorga> How do I make nautilus default again?
[04:29] <alex_mayorga> Does anyone know?
[04:53] <alex_mayorga> What's the default file manager on quantal?
[04:54] <alex_mayorga> Seems like nautilus is not even installed and it shows as "optional", what gives?
[04:56] <konqui> alex_mayorga: dolphin
[04:57] <konqui> Ignore that, forgot this was mainly an Ubuntu channel
[04:57] <alex_mayorga> konqui: OK, thanks
[04:58] <konqui> alex_mayorga: Dolphin is probably not the file manager on Ubuntu. I'm using Kubuntu here
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> "Nautilus is default file manager for everything now" per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[04:59] <jalcine> file manager for everything?
[04:59] <jalcine> what else can it do?
[05:00] <alex_mayorga> jalcine: I've got no idea
[05:00] <konqui> jalcine: I believe it handles files on the desktop too if I am correct
[05:00] <jalcine> and under KDE, it's either Dolphin or Gnewview
[05:00] <jalcine> that I know
[05:00] <alex_mayorga> The thing it was somehow removed from my copy of quantal =(
[05:00] <jalcine> konqui: on Ubuntu, it only views NAT/samba drives (with the extension) or drives, nothing more
[05:01] <jalcine> not as flexible and functional as Dolphin :(
[05:01] <jalcine> alex_mayorga: like in an install (apt-get) or from the CD install?
[05:01] <alex_mayorga> I wonder why "aptitude show nautilus" gives "Priority: optional"
[05:01] <jalcine> alex_mayorga: what did you install your system under?
[05:01] <konqui> jalcine: On Ubuntu it also shows icons on the desktop the reason 3.6 could not be used is it removed that feature
[05:02] <jalcine> that being the latest version?
[05:02] <konqui> jalcine: On Kubuntu Dolphin is not responsible for showing desktop icons, plasma is and Gnewview is mainly for browsing folders for images and viewing those images
[05:02] <alex_mayorga> jalcine: I  don't think I get what you meant, sorry
[05:02]  * jalcine stopped using GNOME-based Ubuntu at 11.04 :(
[05:03] <alex_mayorga> sudo apt-get install nautilus
[05:03] <alex_mayorga> that got me back my folders
[05:03] <konqui> jalcine: I just try every new release on Gnome once but have used KDE from the start before Ubuntu existed
[05:03] <alex_mayorga> Should I bug on it being "optional"?
[05:04] <jalcine> alex_mayorga: perhaps, but it might be marked as a wishlist
[05:04] <konqui> alex_mayorga: You probably installed something and apt removed it
[05:04] <jalcine> for reasons unexplained.
[05:04] <jalcine> konqui: +1
[05:04] <jalcine> konqui: I wouldn't want to have to go through the install/remove/wipe process each time :P
[05:05] <konqui> jalcine: Nah I just try every Ubuntu release on livecd ... its too slow on my netbook from 11.10 to 12.04 and KDE is fast with desktop effects like blur ... makes me wonder why Ubuntu users bash KDE for being heavy
[05:06] <jalcine> konqui: it's probably visually heavy to them.
[05:06] <jalcine> I do wish that some things about KDE could be changed.
[05:06] <jalcine> But that's going to be my vacation project.
[05:06] <jalcine> :D
[05:06] <jalcine> Like eliminating the taskbar/task management aspect of things.
[05:06] <jalcine> and just using krunner
[05:13] <alex_mayorga> I missread, nautilus is default on Ubuntu *Studio*
[05:19] <alex_mayorga> So I guess the default file manager would remain a mystery to me =)
[05:58] <omac> good evening  the os is working wonderfully.
[05:58] <omac> hats off!
[05:58] <omac> the latest update caused an error in the package manager itself, but after a package install -f and reboot, the bug went away.
[05:59] <omac> The other thing I've been wondering about is the video player. it seems like it's performing much more slowly than in pangolin.
[06:01] <omac> it's certainly not pushing the Radeon HD 7970 card to its limit.
[06:52] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: well he is usually here
[06:52] <IdleOne> he quit about 3 hours ago
[06:52] <gnomefreak> it doesnt look like he is here
[07:22] <amit> Whats the channel for 12.10
[07:22] <Guest95323> I cant connect to wifi
[07:23] <bazhang> this is it Guest95323
[07:23] <Guest95323> Where is the additional drivers settings?
[07:24] <Guest95323> bazhang, how can i install additional drivers for wifi in 12.10. It used to show automatically in 12.04 and befor
[07:24] <bazhang> what chipset
[07:25] <Guest95323> dont know exactl some sta45 i think
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: this is the 12.10 channle. you should read the topic it should say it there
[07:26] <bazhang> Guest95323, broadcom?
[08:13] <Guest95323> bazhang, yes broadcom
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:23] <penguin42> hey
[13:53] <XVampireX> I've got another bug report, apparently, IM status keeps changing back to online for some reason, that happens in skype/empathy and generally in the messaging menu
[13:57] <kram_> hello, for some reason i can not choose gnome classic session anymore, only gnome classic (no effects) and i have to start compiz manually each time i login, any pointers?
[13:59] <jbicha> kram_: I think that's bug 1036752
[14:00] <kram_> thats another bug
[14:00] <jbicha> or bug 1052453
[14:00] <kram_> this bug implies compiz running but no plugins added ( i had that aswell)
[14:00] <kram_> my problem is, in lightdm i cannot choose the session which enables compiz
[14:00] <kram_> sec
[14:01] <kram_> sounds more like it but the session i can not click is gnome classic instead of gnome
[14:02] <user82> !info lame
[14:02] <kram_> do oyu know, by any chance, where lightdm reads the sessions from?
[14:06] <mrdeb> hello
[14:17] <mrdeb> hi
[14:57] <rymate1234> Hey
[14:57] <rymate1234> How would I go about upgrading my ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10 eta
[14:57] <rymate1234> *beta
[14:57] <rymate1234> without reinstalling prefably
[14:59] <whitman> rymate1234, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[14:59] <agronholm> hi...having issues with kubuntu 12.10 beta 2 installer
[14:59] <agronholm> screen full of garbage after the initial menu and the KDE gear screen
[14:59] <rymate1234> kbrb
[15:00] <BluesKaj> agronholm, did you do a md5sum on the image ?
[15:00] <agronholm> no, I can do that
[15:01] <agronholm> md5sum matches
[15:01] <BluesKaj> agronholm, ok ,what kind of computer and how old is it ?
[15:02] <agronholm> it's a 2 year old HP Elitebook, don't remember exact model
[15:02] <agronholm> display controller: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [NVS 5100M] (rev a2)
[15:03] <agronholm> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 here now
[15:03] <agronholm> no problems getting that installed iirc
[15:04] <BluesKaj> whynot upgrade thru the net ?
[15:04] <agronholm> I tried that, but it crashed
[15:04] <agronholm> and I've had severe issues with such upgrades every single time I try
[15:06] <agronholm> http://dropcanvas.com/qsqga/1
[15:06] <BluesKaj> agronholm, have you considered an alterrnate install . http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[15:07] <agronholm> I have, but this SHOULD be working with the regular install
[15:07] <agronholm> it's not like I have an exotic video controller or anything else
[15:07] <agronholm> I've yet to try regular ubuntu 12.10b2
[15:08] <BluesKaj> well, it isn't , you may have to consider the alternative ,"alternate install"
[15:09] <agronholm> I need to report this problem anyway
[15:09] <agronholm> if I don't, I can only blame myself if it's not fixed in the final
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !alternative
[15:12] <agronholm> I'll try the mainline ubuntu 12.10b2 now and see if the same problem manifests there
[15:13] <BluesKaj> so you don't need to do a totally fresh install , an upgrade will suffiice
[15:13] <agronholm> I've had issues every single time I've done that
[15:14] <agronholm> often to the point where X does not even start
[15:14] <agronholm> or that X starts but I get a garbled screen
[15:15] <BluesKaj> which graphics card?
[15:15] <agronholm> as I already mentioned, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [NVS 5100M] (rev a2)
[15:15] <agronholm> from lspci
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yeah over at #kubuntu. but it helps for others here to see it as well
[15:16] <yeats> just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and I'm getting terrible performance (very slow unity, very low FPS on glxgears) - my card is a GeForce 9800 GTX+
[15:16] <agronholm> I did paste it here too
[15:16] <yeats> my search for relevant bugs is coming up empty
[15:17] <BluesKaj> agronholm, ok , sorry didn't see that
[15:17] <yeats> any nvidia gurus have any tips?
[15:18] <agronholm> terrible performance on unity does not really surprise me
[15:18] <agronholm> that said, I have nothing
[15:18] <BluesKaj> yeats, not a guru , but installing the nvidia-current driver solved the issue for me
[15:18] <agronholm> brb, trying ubuntu installer
[15:19] <yeats> BluesKaj: thanks - I have that installed (304.43-0ubuntu5)
[15:21] <BluesKaj> what framerate with glxgears yeats
[15:22] <BluesKaj> I get 46fps with fullscreen using the 8400gs card
[15:22] <BluesKaj> 42" Panasonic Plasma Monitor/TV
[15:23] <agronholm> yup, had the exact same problem on mainline ubuntu
[15:24] <yeats> okay - well I changed a setting in nvidia-setting (unchecked Sync to VBlank) and now the FPS is ~4500
[15:24] <yeats> but compiz is very laggy when I expand windows
[15:24] <yeats> all was fine in 12.04
[15:25] <agronholm> I'm writing the kubuntu 12.04 image on the stick to verify that this did not happen with the previous version
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yeats, I'm not familiar with Sync to VBlank , how does that seting increase the frame rate ..it doubled here after unchecking
[15:33] <agronholm> confirmed, the 12.04 kubuntu installer loads fine
[15:33] <agronholm> 12.10b2 does not
[15:34] <agronholm> where should I report this?
[15:35] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Sync to VBlank is a setting that will smooth the performance (It will get you about 30fps all the time) and prevent tearing (You can see that in games)
[15:37] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: The other term for Sync to VBlank is VSync
[15:37] <BluesKaj> XVampireX, I just checked a .mkv video , and all seems fine without the sync to vertical blank
[15:37] <XVampireX> Not everyone needs it
[15:38] <BluesKaj> my 8400gs card just an elchaeapo on the nvidia scale of cards :)
[15:38] <XVampireX> For example I'm playing Torchlight 2 on an Intel GPU (old) and I've disabled VSync which definitely got me a few FPS more
[15:38] <XVampireX> But on a geforce 550 TI I could DEFINITELY see tearing
[15:40] <BluesKaj> well ,I'll leave it unsynced to vblank for now , just as an experiment
[15:40] <XVampireX> Alright
[15:59] <agronholm> BluesKaj: my friend tells me he has the same issues with nouveau
[16:00] <agronholm> apparently I need the "nomodeset" option during boot
[16:17] <user82> will the lenses work more "globally" in the final? ie if i search for "hedgewars" it shows me no result unless i got to the app lens
[16:18] <Daekdroom> user82, if you do have hedgewars installed, it should show you at the home lens.
[16:18] <user82> nope..i was waiting for the preview of it as suggestion to download Daekdroom
[16:19] <user82> it also did work in the app lens!
[16:19] <Daekdroom> I'm not sure whether that shows up at the home lens because I disabled download suggestions.
[16:19] <user82> but when there are no results at all in the "main" lens it would be helpful to show hedgewars from the app lens...
[16:36] <designbybeck> i had one of the 12.10 alphas... and did a disto-upgrade... would that give me Beta2 ? and if so how do i know if everything upgraded correctly?
[16:37] <Daekdroom> designbybeck, yes, and you know whether it's upgraded correctly by not having any held back package updates.
[16:37] <designbybeck> hmm ok Daekdroom I didn't seem to have had anything held back... i dno't have a restart or anything
[16:38] <designbybeck> so i guess that is good to go
[16:38] <designbybeck> Thank you Daekdroom
[16:38] <Daekdroom> designbybeck, were you upgrading packages while using Alpha?
[16:38] <designbybeck> hmmm i might have
[16:38] <designbybeck> i don't remember actaully
[16:38] <Daekdroom> You were probably already using Beta 2 then.
[16:39] <designbybeck> it is running so much better on my netbook and my under powered system no
[16:39] <designbybeck> 12.10 vs 12.04 that is
[16:40] <designbybeck> it is like night and day! I don't know how the Ubuntu team keeps doing it
[16:47] <agronholm> phoronix says opengl performance has come down...again
[16:49] <rymate1234> phoronix say a lot of things
[16:49] <agronholm> are you saying Michael is lying?
[16:53] <agronholm> well, I'm running beta 2 now, did a network upgrade after all
[16:54] <agronholm> no obvious problems so far
[16:56] <designbybeck> if OpenGL is what is making Ubuntu 12.10 Unity run...then it is not come down
[16:56] <designbybeck> cuz it is so imporoved for me
[16:56] <agronholm> that may depend on the hardware
[16:57] <agronholm> may run faster on some, slower on some
[16:57] <agronholm> what display controller do you have?
[16:57] <brandon__> I've got intel ironlake and the unity is pretty laggy
[16:58] <designbybeck> 12.10 beta 2 brandon__ ?
[16:58] <brandon__> yeah
[16:58] <brandon__> its laggy on 12.04 and 11.10 too though
[16:58] <brandon__> the dash in particular
[16:58] <designbybeck> i'm on a netbook and it is so much better than 12.04
[16:59] <brandon__> on a cold boot it takes a good 5-10 seconds for the dash to open
[16:59] <brandon__> dragging stuff from dash to launcher is very noticeably laggy
[16:59] <brandon__> no problems with kwin/plasma (even with active blur) or gnome-shell/mutter on the same hardware
[16:59] <Daekdroom> Unity 6 uses Open GL ES
[17:00] <Daekdroom> Lower performance can be attributed to the transition.
[17:00] <designbybeck> what is the ES part Daekdroom ?
[17:00] <penguin42> Daekdroom: Ah interesting, so I guess it works on some of the ARM platforms which don't do fulll GL
[17:00] <Daekdroom> penguin42, yes
[17:01] <Daekdroom> designbybeck, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL_ES
[17:01] <designbybeck> Thank you
[17:18] <spooky_ddd> Heey there. Latest beta in VM here, it keeps repeating keys erratically or eating up keeys as I type.
[17:19] <spooky_ddd> Installllllled kubuntu
[17:23] <agronholm> I had a similar problem once
[17:23] <agronholm> spooky_d: does the mouse cursor also freeze once in a while for moments at a time?
[17:23] <spooky_d> no proocess eats cpu, kwwwwin efffffectsss disablllled mousss worrks   ok
[17:24] <agronholm> then I have nothing
[17:26] <spooky_d> http://pastebin.com/X6dpEhBY ps afx
[17:29] <spooky_d> Stuff work a bit better (not perfect) after I disabled nepomuk.
[17:33] <spooky_d> noooe thaat's not it
[17:33]  * Peace- kde guy is here
[17:34] <spooky_d> http://pastebin.com/X6dpEhBY ps afx
[17:34] <spooky_d> mmmmouuse worrks   okkkkk,  nooo processs eats CPU
[18:25] <spooky_d> Hi
[18:25] <spooky_d> Problem solved. Hardware keyboard issue. It was funny because I only saw it in the VM.
[18:25] <spooky_d> switched batteries, works like a charm.
[18:26] <agronholm> right, I've experienced the same issue with a microsoft bluetooth keyboard
[18:32] <seduce1> hello. I am trying to install software from Top Rated list but Ubuntu Software Center keeps crashing continuously
[18:33] <seduce1> is there any fix for that
[18:33] <seduce1> is anyone here at all
[18:33] <seduce1> ?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> seduce1, have you tried the terminal with apt-get ?
[18:34] <Artemis3> kop, answer here
[18:34] <seduce1> no because I don't know what to install from there. I pick from USC
[18:35] <trism> seduce1: what are you trying to install and what is the error?
[18:35] <kop> Artemis3, this was a mistake while adding some fractal toys from 12.04 repositories
[18:36] <Artemis3> before that did it work? if you reinstall fresh does it work?
[18:36] <seduce1> I install different packages and the error is Ubuntu freezes and I have to hard reboot
[18:36] <kop> for now dpkg keeps returning an error on nvidia-current
[18:37] <seduce1> I am with Intel HD
[18:37] <trism> seduce1: maybe bug 1054070 but hard to say without more information
[18:37] <BluesKaj> also seduce1 , make sure you have the appropriate repositories listed , apt-get is the another package management system that uses dpkg , same goes for the software center
[18:37] <kop> worked fine until the 12.10 repositories invaded
[18:37] <Artemis3> ok then its not related to my bug, thanks
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[18:38] <BluesKaj> seduce1,^
[18:38] <seduce1> what is there to set up
[18:38] <seduce1> I just click Install
[18:39] <BluesKaj> read the above url seduce1
[18:39] <seduce1> ok
[18:39] <kop> just to be complete I was running along fine in 12.04 when I mistakenly added a pkg from quantal just to get some fractals for terrain fill .
[18:40] <Artemis3> kop then you are not in quantal
[18:40] <kop> on reboot I first got a destroyed desktop and then a hang on gui start up after a second reboot
[18:41] <kop> lsb_release 12.10 ubuntu quantal (development branch)
[18:42] <kop> so I'm thinkin I am
[18:42] <kop> wish grub had saved the previous kernel ...
[18:42] <kop> oh well
[18:42] <Artemis3> hmm
[18:42] <kop> yeah ...
[18:42] <jtaylor> kernels don't get removed automatically
[18:43] <kop> <despises grub2
[18:43] <jtaylor> its probably still there hidden in some submenu
[18:43] <Artemis3> grub2 doesn't remove kernels either, it just hides them in a submenu (actually thats a grub system config option)
[18:43] <kop> grub doesn't list the previous pae
[18:44] <Artemis3> there should be a "previous kernel" choice or something
[18:44] <kop> see what I mean ? :-) I can look
[18:44] <kop> <--- holding shift while rebooting
[18:45] <seduce1> I read it
[18:46] <kop> just the current kernel , recovery mode and memtest
[18:46] <kop> I never learned the 1.99 cmd line
[18:47] <seduce1> as for now the problem with USC seems not solved for me. My other question is will there be difference for Intel HD with the final version of Quantal on 17 Oct or will it be the same as it is now with the Quantal Beta?
[18:47] <Daekdroom> seduce1, probably not, unless there's a important bug to be fixed.
[18:48] <seduce1> well I get black screen and I have to press Fn+Left Arrow to make it visible
[18:48] <seduce1> also connect to TV picture is flickering
[18:48] <seduce1> also when I log out it gets black and I have to power off
[18:49] <seduce1> these are problems
[18:52] <kop> well krap
[18:52] <kop> it's now stuck on stupid (fixing broken packages in recovery console )
[18:55] <seduce1> when I did terminal: ubuntu-bug and clicked Display error it said that there is problem with GPU
[18:56] <kop> seems any of the options in the recovery console hang
[18:56] <kop> I can get into a cmd line session though
[18:57] <kop> fsck even on a 500g can't take 15 min ?!
[18:59] <IdleOne> yes
[19:00] <kop> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[19:00] <BluesKaj> kiop is the fix done , if so hit enter
[19:01] <BluesKaj> er kop^
[19:45] <Daekdroom> Is it only here or is Ambiance for GTK2 still displaying menus in white instead of black?
[19:59] <trism> Daekdroom: if you mean light menus on gtk 2 apps and dark menus on gtk 3 then yes I see that too
[19:59] <Daekdroom> Yes that is what I mean
[22:19] <larstk> hi all
[22:19] <larstk> :)
[22:22] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha larstk
[23:19] <keithclark> I have several different desktop environments installed, Gnome, Lubuntu, Xfce, but when I select them from the login Ubuntu will only start with Unity.  No matter what I try to select.  Any ideas?
[23:21] <penguin42> are you using ldm or gdm or what as the login?
[23:23] <keithclark> penguin42, gdm
[23:24] <penguin42> keithclark: Do they all look identical when you logjn or do they look different but all with the extra unity bits?
[23:26] <keithclark> penguin42, I'm not sure I understand your question.  There are about five of them listed.  I can select amongst about 3 of them, it automatically skips over the others.  I hit enter to select what I want, but Ubuntu still boots into Unity.
[23:27] <penguin42> that is odd
[23:27] <keithclark> penguin42, oh I misread your last question.  Yes, they all boot the very same.  I select Lubuntu, it boots into Unity
[23:28] <penguin42> keithclark: ok, that's pretty odd, try installing lightdm and see if it's a problem specific to gdm?
[23:28] <keithclark> I could do that.
[23:28] <penguin42> but can you bug report it, that shouldn't happen
[23:28] <keithclark> One more weird thing.  The Unity Lens does not show any application at all.  I can search for documents, but not applications.
[23:29] <keithclark> I have to start everything via command line (If I remember its name!)
[23:32] <keithclark> All in all this Beta seems really, really buggy to me.  there are also no File, Edit,Help menu at the top of the screen for any application any more.  They are not in the windows either
[23:33] <penguin42> keithclark: I'd try installing one desktop and see if it's happy 1st
[23:33] <penguin42> keithclark: One thing I've seen combining some desktops is that they sometimes save some state in the same state or you end up with background processes from multiple desktop s trying to run at once
[23:33] <keithclark> This all worked with 12.04 so I think it is the 12.10 upgrade that is at fault.  I understand this is a Beta and I'm not on my production machine.
[23:34] <penguin42> keithclark: Yeh but it should work so please bug report it
[23:36] <keithclark> Once lightdm is installed, how do I select it over gdm?
[23:41] <penguin42> hmm
[23:41] <keithclark> I found it
[23:41] <keithclark> I found it.


[13:14] <Kano> did somebody see that kernel 2.6.26 and newer only detect 32 gb from the hds which was fully seen with 2.6.24?
[13:14] <Kano> http://kanotix.com/files/fix/alewe/
[13:14] <Kano> there i have put some logs
[13:26] <Kano> looks like it detects HPA with 2.6.27
[13:27] <Kano> which is unlocked by default with 2.6.24
[13:27] <Kano> because hpa unlock for 2.6.24 and hpa detected for 2.6.27
[13:33] <dody> bagaimana cara intalasi gyachi
[13:34] <dody> ada yang bisa bantu
[17:18] <Kano> static int ata_ignore_hpa = 1
[17:19] <Kano> was in 2.6.24 -> drivers/ata/libata-core.c
[17:23] <Kano> http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/lpc_2008_keynote.html
[17:23] <Kano> did  you read this *g*
[17:26] <Kano> * libata: Default to hpa being overridden
[17:58] <C10uD> hello there
[17:58] <C10uD> i'm using intrepid, latest updates and i get this error once a while in syslog
[17:59] <C10uD> error that slows down the system
[17:59] <C10uD> http://pastebin.com/m5a0a401b
[18:01] <Kano> i saw those too here, just only the EH compete ones
[18:01] <Kano> is it nforce2?
[18:03] <C10uD> nope, it's via
[18:03] <C10uD> quite an old motherboard though
[18:03] <C10uD> i've found something on the internet, but not recent stuff due to kernel upgrades
[18:04] <C10uD> i re-must try previous kernel btw, even if i think it worked flawlessy if the kernel is the problem
[18:20] <C10uD> seems  2.6.27-2-generic isn't having this problem
[18:22] <C10uD> i'll try -3 again hoping that was just a temp error
[18:28] <C10uD> ok, this is definitely a regression (?)
[18:28] <C10uD> should i file a bug on launchpad?
[18:28] <laga> sure
[18:28] <C10uD> what do you think i should include apart from syslog? :p
[18:29] <laga> a good description of your problem
[18:29] <laga> the good and the bad kernel versions
[18:29] <laga> etc
[18:29] <C10uD> kk
[18:29] <C10uD> thx
[18:43] <C10uD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272835
[18:43] <C10uD> just in case someone wants to play with it
[18:43] <C10uD> switch back to -2 kernel
[18:43] <C10uD> brb


 Hey can you remember the bridge name to access this group from umatriks ?
 [Edit] Hey can you remember me the bridge name to access this group from umatriks ?
 @UniversalSuperBox, Why it seems I don't own such a recovery window on my Pro5? I flashed the recovery_turbo.img file but if I reboot to recovery I only see the Ubuntu logo in the middle of the screen. Is this a different recovery img?
 I suppose that is only for FP2. Old Canonical devices are not the UBports flagships :).
 that's a nexus 5 tho
 Oh, ok. I thought FP2 based on the comment posted by Flohack later on.
 @zubozrout, Oh I see...thus it's a pity not having that recovery for all the devices
[06:46] <ubptgbot> Chrisewcs was added by: Chrisewcs
 Well, the original recovery works fine, so I guess it is ok. And I like it visually more.
 @mattbel10, Because the recovery is not opensource, as the whole device tree. We need to stick with what was there from Canonical
 @Flohack, Thank you Florian for the clarification :)
 However I would infer that a recovery boot without recovery options is not kind of an actual recovery, so poorly useful
 Hmm, not sure if the option was ever there, can't find it, but is there a way to prevent waking the screen if I detach the power charger from the device?
[08:02] <ubptgbot> Aleksander Nikitin was added by: Aleksander Nikitin
 When the UBports installer says "Please connect the device with a USB cable", does it mean "Wait, I'm downloading what is needed, keep the device connected" or really  it does not detect that the device is connected?
 It means `sh*t I can't see your device, one of us f*cked something up`
 On my n5 I couldnt flash right after I unlocked bootlodaer, I had to reflash android and enable usb debugging once again
 @UniversalSuperBox, Is it possible to make a script that automatically updates the Openstore after ota update?
 @VeryOriginalUsername, got it, thank you
 @VeryOriginalUsername, The stange thing is that it detected the device when I connected it, and the device has been rebooted in a strange mode...
 Just reflash android if you can and try agai
 [Edit] Just reflash android if you can and try again
 Ok, thank you
 @unknown, Like doing it into autostart and remove it afterwards
 As a side note, I think the UBPorts installer uses too much CPU to get the job done
 @garrogarri, it's electron ;)
 @neothethird, Its the animation
 with the dots. When you minimize it its better
 Welcome Aleksander !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[09:00] <linmob> Hello everybody, I have the opportunity to buy a Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition
[09:01] <linmob> Can someone tell me, what the status of that device regarding ubports support, especially 16.04 is? Thank you very much!
 A question: The OPO camera zoom and flash are still not working also with xenial?
 @Chrisewcs, Hi Christian, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started 👍
 @garrogarri, Try going into recovery manual if that happens
 @mateosalta, Should I press pwr+vol up+vol down altogether, right?
 I'm on a Fairphone
 Either up or down I think
 Its diffrent for each, some one provides a menu, others each is either fast boot or recovery
 Recovery on FP2 is Power plus Vlo-Up.
 Vol-Up...
 What should I do once I'm in recovery?
 Just dropped by and missed the start of the conversation. You're trying to install UT on an FP2 but the installer doesn't find the device (says you should connect via USB but it's already connected)?
 IIRC help with installing UT is typically done in the welcome group https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 @Ingo_FP_Angel, I'm trying to upgrade to 16.04
 I have UBPorts already
 [Edit] I have UT already
 @garrogarri, So you can try with the cli tool
 Fwd from mariogrip: or `sudo system-image-cli --switch 16.04/rc` from the phone
 @mymike00, Ok, I'm trying
 I've never used it so I can't help you if you have problems...
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/zCpQhuWQ.png
 How to make 3 icons in row
 Hi! Morning. Can I install/test UT on my Redmi Note 3 (Kenzo)?
 Uhhh wifi suddenly 🅱 roke on my nexus5
 Version 2 of ota4-rc
 @Gilmars, The currently supported devices are listed at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @VeryOriginalUsername, `nmcli d` returns wifi0 unavailable
 @VeryOriginalUsername, same here but on FP2, i've opened an issue here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/703
 but i don't know how to reproduce or how to debug it
 Switches are there, yet there's no actual wlan
 oh
 ok
 The strange thing is that it worked fine right after update and it stopped now, I really hope my hw is not damaged
 Phone's been sitting on airplane mode for like 2 days though
 Does UT support internet over bluetooth?
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Fixed: disable display -> wireless display and reboot
 @unknown, I was thinking something graphical
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Rc2?
 v2 is what update menu told me
 @John, For hammerhead and bacon only for now
 I guess it's more like ota4-rc1.1
 @UniversalSuperBox, What about something automatical in the background like doing a script into autostart and remove it afterwards
 @unknown, That's not great UX if we're doing it from the internet, but it could work if we included the new click with the update
 People get kinda upset about "automatically updating stuff"
 A graphical installer which runs on first boot could at least say "hey, click here to update things or your phone won't work"
 @UniversalSuperBox, I like this one 👍
 @advocatux, What's new in it, iam using hammerhead
 @John, No idea, sorry
 My camera stuck when I switch between camera to video mode in 15.04 rc1
 Nexus 5, known issue.
 Any other device having same issue?
 See https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7 for known new bugs in 16.04
 @John, No
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 @t0no6, Hi Toño G, welcome! 🤘Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … There's a Spanish group too :)
 could someone please send me `/usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png` from ubuntu touch?
 don't have access to the device atm, but need it for developement
 @vanyasem, you can pull it using adb
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/pZVADPli.png
 thank you ^^
 @UniversalSuperBox, Just fixing the click bug will solve the problem for preinstalled apps
 Well that's good
 Do you have a reference to "the click bug" since I haven't read the codebase to understand what it's doing wrong
 @UniversalSuperBox, I don't know if it's been reported. The issue is it's preferring apps in opt when the hooks get run. It needs some logic adjustment there. I can probably take a quick look later
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 Hi all. I'm looking for the cellular interface to add a rule to ufw to only authorize MMS
 I suppose it's one of the rmnet?
 I just solved my problem using /var/log/ufw.log, it was rmnet0. Now, I can block data but authorize MMS.
 Hey @mariogrip, I think I got it. https://github.com/ubports/mir/tree/xenial_-_jbb-upstream-test
 It's an alias, I think
 @UniversalSuperBox, alias of xenial, but it seems like it :D
 This was dumb, I should have done something that I'd actually commit to
 :P
 but that would give mir build to test?
 It should
 Alright, that didn't work
 The refs don't seem to update on GitHub
 what if you push it manually?
 Yeah, but that's not the point
 still less work than keeping separate branches
 `git push --all`
 Seems ridiculous but it's working
 This isn't a very good solution unfortunately
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 Hi! Me again. I have a small problem when I use "adb shell". When I type, the wrapping not wokring, it always override the first line. To have it works, I have to resize my terminal window (urxvt) to a specific width. It's not really nice when you use a tilling manager (xmonad). Did I forgot something in bashrc?
 adb only works with 80 character wide terminals
 oh ok. So it's just that... Will try to have ssh working so
 thanks @UniversalSuperBox
 @Ellypsis, sudo apt install xterm; resize
 makes the terminal wrapping sane
 Where's the best place to get support flashing an mx4?
 @WelcomePlus is the coolest of install chats
 didn't know resize command, working fine with urxvt. Thanks!
 My mx4 is in fastboot, but ubports installer is still telling me to reboot
 I'm guessing you're using the snap? Either way, there's lots of people in @WelcomePlus who know the workarounds
 ah o
 [Edit] ah ok
 Happy 300 Liberapay!
 on 16.04, we can't mount system rw?
 i try "mount / -o remount,rw" but still can't edit a file in /system/usr/keylayout
 No, the systemimage is mounted ro originally
 So it can't be remounted
 `touch /userdata/.writable_device_image`, I think
 And reboot
 will give a try
 I have no more power button on a new nexus 5, so i need to remap button
 Sounds weird
 But smack it on a table, that side down
 Stuck power button is common
 the button was unweld
 ah
 it's not a problem as it's one only for test and bug report ;)
 my dealy driver is on 15.04
 daily*
 can't edit a system file with 'touch /userdata/.writable_device_image'
 Maybe it's hyphens
 I can never remember
 `$ kill hciattach … bash: kill: hciattach: arguments must be process or job IDs` how can I kill that process?
 [Edit] ```$ kill hciattach … bash: kill: hciattach: arguments must be process or job IDs``` how can I kill that process?
 @mymike00, sudo pkill -9 hciattach
 @malditobastardo, Ah, thanks. …  Do I just switch to RC to get the OTA-4 RC?