[10:29] <SolarisBoy> axos88: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-July/006993.html
[10:29] <SolarisBoy> theres a legend there
[10:29] <llutz> axos88: my bad, 1 desired, 2 state
[10:29] <Cube``> hi. i have ubuntu installed on my eee pc, but would like to add the backtrack distro as dual boot. how can i do what without screwing up my current ubuntu installation?
[10:29] <axos88> llutz, aha, so if they are not the same, it's probably because dpkg has been interrupted?
[10:30] <axos88> llutz, or some error occured?
[10:30] <llutz> axos88: ii "to be installed" "is installed"
[10:30] <callum__> Cube'' what EEE DO you have.
[10:30] <kanzie> Is there a filelimit on FAT, Im trying to copy some MKV-files to my FAT-fisk and get error file to large
[10:30] <jussi01> callum__: I think so, but probably better to use the netbook version
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> i think so
[10:30] <irenicus> @Cube I think we r on the same boat lol!
[10:30] <Myrtti> kanzie: yes.
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> kanzie:
[10:30] <aleanne82> kanzie: 2GB for fat16
[10:30] <indus> kanzie, yeah 2gb
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> ouch
[10:30] <indus> kanzie, umm wait
[10:30] <axos88> llutz, probably this should make it's way to the man page... Thanks for your help
[10:30] <Fendaril> What c/c++ IDE do you linux dudes use
[10:30] <llutz> kanzie: 4GB on fat32
[10:30] <callum__> Jussi01 how to enable full dekstop mode on NETBOOK REMIX 9.10 Please?
[10:31] <indus> 4 gb
[10:31] <SolarisBoy> Fendaril: vi
[10:31] <indus> yes llutz is right
[10:31] <Fendaril> thats a text editor
[10:31] <indus> ntfs is good ,
[10:31] <SolarisBoy> its way more
[10:31] <kanzie> so what is recommended then for a media-disk... ext3/4 or NTFS?
[10:31] <Cube``> Callum_: 1000he, and im using eeebuntu, to answer your previous question
[10:31] <kanzie> llutz: ^^
[10:31] <Fendaril> it doesn't have autocompletion
[10:31] <callum__> Oh ok thanks cube i have 701SD :(
[10:31] <Fendaril> or a build option
[10:32] <callum__> EEEBuntu is netbook remix or something different?
[10:32] <axos88> Fendaril, try eclipse
[10:32] <aleanne82> Fendaril: don't listen to them, they're vi/emacs trolls
[10:32] <indus> kanzie, hmm? ext3/4 is only for linux
[10:32] <Fendaril> kk
[10:32] <llutz> kanzie: vfat, i don't have files >4GB :)
[10:32] <Cube``> Callum_: both
[10:32] <SolarisBoy> well not neccesarily im just being honest
[10:32] <callum__> oh ok - thanks
[10:32] <SolarisBoy> i use vim for C perl and just about anything else
[10:32] <Myrtti> indus: there is a driver for ext2/3 support for windows
[10:33] <Fendaril> I woul never use wordppad fr c++
[10:33] <indus> yes its experimental i heard
[10:33] <Fendaril> so why use VI for c++
[10:33] <SolarisBoy> check vim site and see the many plugins scripts and extensions available
[10:33] <indus> Myrtti, yes experimental so i didnt mention it
[10:33] <indus> not sure
[10:33] <Leoneof`> hi, i did /etc/network restart , and it did attach the ip address to eth0 , but it does not attach automatically in startup, why?
[10:33] <axos88> Fendaril, I use eclipse + cdt, try that.
[10:33] <aleanne82> Myrtti: it's unusable, since it doesn't support inodes>128b
[10:33] <Callum_> Cube``: what?
[10:33] <Fendaril> ok axos88 thanks
[10:33] <callum__> Good games for Ubuntu netbook remix or apps?
[10:34] <callum__> Hey Callum_ How's life?
[10:34] <Fendaril> planeshift
[10:34] <Callum_> oh, you're responding to my alter ego...
[10:34] <Fendaril> a 3d mmo for linux
[10:34] <SolarisBoy> openarena
[10:34] <callum__> Callum_ LONG TIME NO CHAT :p
[10:34] <ikonia> callum__: please stop messing around
[10:34] <callum__> Callum_ do you know if ubuntu 9.10 desktop works on eee pc 701 with WIFI
[10:34] <Fendaril> SolarisBoy, hows ubuntu goona fiar against chrome
[10:35] <ikonia> Fendaril: this is a support channel, you may like to discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:35] <llutz> Leoneof`: make sure modules for your networking-card are loaded at the time, networking starts
[10:35] <Fendaril> ok sorry
[10:35] <Leoneof`> Ubuntu will use Yahoo as default website in Firefox
[10:35] <SolarisBoy> chrome is not prepared for that contest in my eyes... until the world is truly ready to have a OS thats very 'web service based' o dont think it will bite
[10:35] <callum__> the off topic-ubuntu room is full of trolls.
[10:35] <callum__> don't go there.
[10:36] <aleanne82> how much space ubuntu kernel source takes?
[10:36] <SolarisBoy> mines is 465M
[10:37] <hilts_> I rock!!
[10:37] <mrAZ> hello, i am looking for driver for midi-usb cable 1x1 from swissonic. any hints appreciated !
[10:37] <aleanne82> gods, and how much space is needed o compile it?
[10:37] <callum__> I think Ubuntu netbook remix has a error? - battery is 78% and it's flashing a green light on battery icon on eee pc 701
[10:37] <callum__> is this bug?
[10:37] <ikonia> callum__: enough - #ubuntu-offtopic is acceptable channel to use
[10:37] <SolarisBoy> not sure never crossed an issue doing it on moderately resourced systems
[10:38] <Callum_> callum__: It's been a while lol... umm, technically it should work, although it wouldn't be as fast as something like Xubuntu, Ubuntu Netbook Remix or Eeebuntu
[10:38] <sikor_sxe> hello i want to do a customization (in source code) to an ubuntu deb package, what would be the correct way to do this?
[10:38] <callum__> Oh OK thanks! how do you enable full desktop mode do you know i cant see anything on netbook remix
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> compile from source
[10:39] <aleanne82> who is in charge of this channel?
[10:39] <callum__> like no icon for desktop mode
[10:39] <Callum_> callum__: as to the wireless, if it is compatible with Eeebuntu there is a good chance it is compatible with standard Ubuntu
[10:39] <qweqweqwe> how do you get grub working with a usb keyboard?
[10:39] <sikor_sxe> SolarisBoy: it's not that easy. the package in question is network-manager-openvpn and it's tightly coupled with the os
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> thats vpnc
[10:40] <sikor_sxe> no openvpn
[10:40] <Myrtti> sikor_sxe: repackage it and rebuild it with launchpad or opensuse build service
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> one sec...
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> your right my bad
[10:40] <callum__> wow you guys talk about alot of complicated things i dont understand i just my eee pc for facebook and music and msn :S lol
[10:40] <angelo_> how come I can see my desktop or my wallpaper?
[10:41] <sikor_sxe> Myrtti: thx! any hint where i can read up on this?
[10:41] <callum__> anyone know about ubuntu netbook remix desktop full thing like ubuntu os?
[10:41] <Myrtti> sikor_sxe: I've found the help sections of both web services to be quite good
[10:41] <angelo_> anybody have any clue on what happened to my desktop?
[10:41] <rumpsy> angelo_: what is your prob?
[10:41] <Bree> hi
[10:42] <callum__> angelo_ what Ubuntu version are you using
[10:42] <sikor_sxe> Myrtti: ok, i got an account on both. i'll start with lp :)
[10:42] <angelo_> i cant view anything but a black screen
[10:42] <SolarisBoy> actually can't you completely remove network-manager with no issues? i dont use it
[10:42] <angelo_> no background no widgets, nothing
[10:42] <angelo_> the latest one
[10:42] <angelo_> 9 i believe
[10:42] <callum__> angelo_ there is terminal command line that puts the desktop and start bar back to normal i dont know it though
[10:42] <sikor_sxe> SolarisBoy: i don't want to remove it.
[10:43] <angelo_> what should i do then
[10:43] <rumpsy> angelo_: do you have a prompt in that screen?
[10:43] <SolarisBoy> not my point,, shouldn't that allow you to recompile with whichever option you need?
[10:43] <SolarisBoy> without borking the OS?
[10:43] <angelo_> which screen
[10:43] <callum__> anyone know the command line that resets the desktop to default values using terminal?
[10:43] <callum__> thanks
[10:43] <rumpsy> angelo_: press alt+atrl+f1
[10:43] <SolarisBoy> you would need to disable it first and configure interfaces i believe if youd like to stay online...
[10:44] <sikor_sxe> SolarisBoy: i don't want to bork network-manager.
[10:44] <rumpsy> angelo_: press alt+ctrl+f1
[10:44] <angelo_> that brings up applications
[10:44] <callum__> rumpsy since i have had this problem also before - what does alt+cntrl+f1 do for future reference thanks
[10:45] <rumpsy> angelo_: press alt+ctrl+f1 , this bring you a terminal window tty1
[10:45] <aleanne82> is universe repo ever updated?
[10:45] <SolarisBoy> sikor_sxe: what option is it you need to enable?
[10:45] <rumpsy> angelo_: got that?
[10:45] <sikor_sxe> SolarisBoy: i guess ubuntu has nm customized in some way. i don't want to install a whole new nm infrastructure. i just wan't to add some needed functionality to the nm-openvpn plugin and provide a deb.
[10:45] <callum__> cntrl+alt+T is terminal
[10:45] <callum__> oh thats xandros
[10:46] <sikor_sxe> SolarisBoy: specifically it's: '--mssfix --fragment & ---maxtun
[10:46] <rumpsy> Callum_What you want exactly?, Are you spammer?
[10:46] <trupheenix> is there a channel where i can get help on shell scripts?
[10:46] <indus> trupheenix, #bash
[10:47] <llutz> trupheenix:  #bash
[10:47] <rajnikant> hii
[10:47] <callum__> rumpsy dilligaf idgaf wyt
[10:47] <callum__> Thanks
[10:48] <rumpsy> !ask | Callum_
[10:48] <Breez> hi
[10:48] <angelo_> anybody figure out how i can reset the desktop?
[10:49] <callum__> oh i asked if anyone knows how to get full desktop mode on 9.10 remix
[10:49] <Gangrel> !beryl
[10:49] <angelo_> why did u tell me to click ctrl alt F1?
[10:49] <Gangrel> !compiz
[10:49] <sh0ne> Is it possible to download ubuntu desktop iso file, burn it on USB flash stick and install ubuntu on computer from there
[10:49] <sh0ne> ?
[10:49] <Gangrel> !wine
[10:50] <oCean_> !fishing > Gangrel
[10:50] <callum__> i can never get wine to work :(
[10:50] <angelo_> same here
[10:50] <callum__> if you use wine can you run windows live messenger?
[10:50] <Myrtti> !usb | sh0ne, yes, it is
[10:50] <angelo_> i need help finding my desktop
[10:50] <aleanne82> callum__: wine is not supposed to work
[10:50] <callum__> rofl what?
[10:50] <angelo_> why not
[10:51] <callum__> WINE Is meant to make windows programs run?
[10:51] <aleanne82> they're living off selling commercial versions that do work
[10:51] <callum__> oh so the free wine doesnt work?
[10:51] <SolarisBoy> sikor_sxe: i see where that can be an issue
[10:51] <aleanne82> callum__: it _barely_ works, not enough for any productive work
[10:51] <bullgard> !language | ghostcube
[10:52] <angelo_> please somebody help me figure out the issue im having with the desktop
[10:52] <oCean_> bullgard: ?
[10:52] <aleanne82> bullgard: who is ghostcube?
[10:52] <SolarisBoy> weirdness...
[10:53] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: you can't find your desktop?
[10:53] <aleanne82> angelo_: had you tried to install gnome-desktop or something like this?
[10:53] <callum__> so wines junk
[10:53] <callum__> oh well
[10:53] <SolarisBoy> works fine for me @ wine
[10:53] <angelo_> no gnome desktop does the trick?
[10:53] <callum__> Lies,
[10:54] <SolarisBoy> i actually just got finished playing project 64 in my wine
[10:54] <callum__> WIne never works, and doesnt run windows programs i trie for 30 hours or so
[10:54] <angelo_> yes gnome desktop is installed
[10:54] <SolarisBoy> Ocharina of time
[10:54] <oCean_> callum__: stop discussion in this channel
[10:54] <oCean_> callum__: join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion
[10:54] <SolarisBoy> wine doesn't work for EVERYTHING
[10:54] <SolarisBoy> its not supposed to
[10:54] <angelo_> solarisboy have any idea what i can do?
[10:54] <callum__> Oh Ok END OF STORY
[10:54] <Breez> Hi - I have had an issue where I tried to install server kk, wouldnt recognise the LAN, im new to linux, kep that in mind, found the driver and added to  flash drive, then workee out how to mount it etc, large learning curve, then tried make install, come up and said coaqnt find compiler, so having heaps of trouble getting apts without internet connection, loaded onto a disk and did an apt-add and then an update, nothing found,
[10:54] <Gangrel> where can i install wine? because the wine site gives a damaged package
[10:54] <SolarisBoy> not unless you can give a better description of how you go to the issue of missing desktop
[10:54] <callum__> i need full desktop mode in ubuntu remix
[10:55] <SolarisBoy> its in repos
[10:55] <oCean_> !prefix | SolarisBoy
[10:55] <angelo_> ive never had a desktop
[10:55] <SolarisBoy> thanks for your inputs oCean_
[10:55] <angelo_> i installed the OS Ubunto and a desktop never came up
[10:55] <Crisis> !tab
[10:55] <angelo_> oh ok sorry
[10:55] <Crisis> !SolarisBoy
[10:55] <Crisis> :S
[10:55] <Myrtti> angelo_: which cd did you use to install it, do you remember?
[10:56] <angelo_> um the one i downloaded of their website
[10:56] <angelo_> i believe
[10:56] <SolarisBoy> ummm i knew that,, just a personal habit of mine
[10:56] <callum__> Sex me Up :D Im out babes - Love you all take care x
[10:56] <cpk1> so I only have one cd drive and want to burn the alternate cd while in a livecd session, do I need to load the whole cd into ram or anything like that or will it manage to work without me doing anything?
[10:56] <SolarisBoy> pardon me if its really bothering the room like that
[10:56] <Myrtti> angelo_: there's plenty of them on the site, you need to be a bit more precise
[10:56] <angelo_> myrtii_: hold on ill check
[10:57] <irenicus> without internet how do u chat on irc xD
[10:57] <angelo_> i downloaded Ubantu 9.10
[10:58] <SolarisBoy> if IRC server is on your lan wouldn't need the internet
[10:58] <SolarisBoy> if not you wont
[10:58] <irenicus> cool :p
[10:58] <Breez> got windows one online and linux one sitting laughing at me
[10:59] <angelo_> Myrtii u there>
[10:59] <angelo_> ?
[10:59] <aleanne82> is universe repo ever updated?
[11:00] <aleanne82> ls
[11:00] <Myrtti> angelo_: ok... so are you using ubuntu now or are you on another os?
[11:00] <angelo_> im using it
[11:00] <Callum_> hmmmm, callum__ is an interesting fellow
[11:00] <angelo_> how can i address messages to someone specific
[11:01] <SolarisBoy> :/msg
[11:01] <llutz> !pm | angelo_
[11:01] <angelo_> i didnt send pm
[11:01] <SolarisBoy> he just asked...
[11:02] <llutz> preventive ;)
[11:02] <aleanne82> angelo_: type his name and ptess [Tab]
[11:02] <Myrtti> aleanne82: or her
[11:02] <angelo_> aleanne82, thanks. any idea on how i can get my desktop to appear. All i get is a black bg
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> is gnome-desktop installed?
[11:03] <angelo_> yes
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> startx?
[11:03] <angelo_> whats that
[11:03] <w3l54666> hey guys, need some help installing a programme, TEAMSPEAK2
[11:03] <tc111> can someone please show me what i am doing wrong? all my livecds worked prior to karmic (and moving to a new machine), now none of them do. http://pastebin.com/m5259d99b
[11:03] <garymc> Hi Im upgrading to Karmic, its asking me "Replace the customised configuration file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf ?" Do i keep or replace this file?
[11:03] <w3l54666> anybody willing to give 1-2-1 help??
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> command to start graphical environment giving it exists and confugre properly
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> s/confugre/configured
[11:04] <angelo_> SolarisBoy, are you talking to me?
[11:04] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: command to start graphical environment giving it exists and confugre properly
[11:04] <cpk1> w3l54666: the client?
[11:04] <angelo_> how do i do that
[11:04] <w3l54666> cpk1: yup
[11:04] <SolarisBoy> type startx
[11:04] <garymc> anyone know about this upgrade from jaunty to karmic?
[11:04] <angelo_> whee
[11:04] <angelo_> where
[11:05] <garymc> well i replaced
[11:05] <SolarisBoy> are you looking at a blinking cursor and a prompt on that black background or is that you have a truly all black screen in front of you?
[11:06] <angelo_> no im just looking for my icons and wallpaper
[11:06] <Callum_> garymc: its usually a good idea to keep the local version installed as it keeps your sessions from the existing installation
[11:06] <angelo_> everything else is there
[11:06] <Callum_> garymc: s/sessions/settings
[11:06] <czr_> hi. can't seem to find any doc on how the network sharing feature in network manager 9.10 is implemented? any ideas/links? I need to find out whether I can implement one scenario with it or not..
[11:06] <SolarisBoy> did you change the theme?
[11:06] <angelo_> yes
[11:06] <SolarisBoy> ahhh i get you now =)
[11:07] <angelo_> lol oh yea?  what did i do wrong
[11:07] <SolarisBoy> and right clicking on the 'desktop' provides no menu?
[11:07] <angelo_> nope
[11:07] <angelo_> i get menu actually
[11:07] <garymc> Callum : too late i pressed replace :(
[11:07] <angelo_> option to change background
[11:07] <SolarisBoy> change desktop background there?
[11:07] <angelo_> yup
[11:07] <cpk1> w3l54666: first you need to make the file you download from them excutable
[11:07] <SolarisBoy> select
[11:08] <cpk1> w3l54666: then you simply run it
[11:08] <oguncak> hi. can anyone help me with my dvb-s card?
[11:08] <garymc> Callum : what is the session?
[11:08] <angelo_> ok
[11:08] <_KAMI_> hali
[11:08] <SolarisBoy> from there navigate to the tab titled themes...
[11:08] <w3l54666> cpk1: how do i do that??
[11:08] <angelo_> ok
[11:08] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: next select human or some other theme
[11:09] <angelo_> ok
[11:09] <SolarisBoy> result?
[11:09] <angelo_> nothing. just the theme changed
[11:09] <w3l54666> cpk1: pm chat so we can get it sorted??? that ok??
[11:09] <angelo_> desktop is still invisible
[11:09] <cpk1> w3l54666: there probably is an option somewhere in the properties if you use the gui or you can open a console in the directory the file is in and do "chmod +x nameoffile"
[11:09] <SolarisBoy> sweet
[11:09] <cpk1> w3l54666: dont need to use pm
[11:10] <angelo_> SolarisBoy, now what
[11:10] <Cube``> how can i add another distro to my ubuntu and have them run in dual boot?
[11:10] <w3l54666> cpk1: in the file there is a setup.sh is that the 1 i need???
[11:10] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: is this a fresh install?
[11:11] <angelo_> yea
[11:11] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: which theme caused this issue?
[11:11] <Elefant> hello :) I have a question about printing, how to turn on grayscale printing and configure the quality?
[11:11] <cpk1> w3l54666: ??? make the .run that teamspeak gives you executable and then run it
[11:12] <angelo_> im not sure
[11:12] <w3l54666> cpk1: .run i dont see 1 of them files
[11:12] <SolarisBoy> you changed a theme and then this happend correct?
[11:12] <rumpsy> angelo_: restart GDM, that may help you
[11:12] <angelo_> yea
[11:12] <angelo_> i had the brown background before
[11:12] <SolarisBoy> try what rumpsy said
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:13] <angelo_> rumpsy, :whats the GDM
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> graphical display manager
[11:13] <angelo_> how to i get to that
[11:13] <rumpsy> angelo_: this is what i telling you from the beginning ...
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> default for gnome
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> type everything but the qoutes
[11:13] <rumpsy> to restart GDM, at first you have to stop GDM
[11:14] <angelo_> SolarisBoy, where do i type that
[11:14] <angelo_> thats what im confused about
[11:14] <chiiiiiz_88> Hi!!
[11:14] <rumpsy> press alt+ctrl+f1
[11:14] <SolarisBoy> isnt there a shortcut key for term...
[11:14] <chiiiiiz_88> What does limit the amount RAM memory in a Ubuntu based PC?
[11:14] <rumpsy> angelo_: ^^
[11:15] <SolarisBoy> ahh menu shortcut
[11:15] <angelo_> if i pres alt+ctrol=F1 i have to restart my computer
[11:15] <erUSUL> chiiiiiz_88: 32 bit vs 64 bits
[11:15] <angelo_> i get stuck in a command prompt
[11:15] <bazhang> chiiiiiz_88, how much do you have and which arch 32 or 64
[11:15] <cpk1> w3l54666: oh thats right you're using teamspeak2...
[11:15] <Breez> Hope someone can help me - I have had an issue where I tried to install server kk, wouldnt recognise the LAN on install, im new to linux, keep that in mind, found the driver and added to  a flash stick, then worked out how to mount it etc and copy to a subduirectory, large learning curve, then tried make install as per instructions, ubuntu come up with an error and said cant find compiler, so I need the appropriate apt i believe
[11:15] <rumpsy> angelo_: you don't want to! restart
[11:15] <SolarisBoy> the command prompt is where you need be at
[11:15] <chiiiiiz_88> so far, 32 bits and 2.25 Gb
[11:15] <w3l54666> cpk1: yh as ts3 is only beta atm
[11:15] <angelo_> rumpsy,  how to i exit it then once i restart GDM?
[11:16] <bazhang> chiiiiiz_88, you can use 4gb with 32bit, just need to install linux-generic-pae under karmic 9.10
[11:16] <zilkomaa> Could some one help me please, after ubuntu 9.10 install i cant boot to windows xp from grub. After pressing enter in grub menu it only loads grub menu again, no error messages and nothing.  Here is the disk info's windows xp is on sda1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365124/  and here grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/365126/
[11:16] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: quick question,, have you restarted the computer?
[11:16] <angelo_> not right now
[11:16] <chiiiiiz_88> and under 64 bits arch?
[11:16] <angelo_> i did like 10 minutes ago
[11:17] <SolarisBoy> hmm so why would gdm restart fix this?
[11:17] <rumpsy> angelo_: follow this, press alt+ctrl+backspace, then press ctrl+alt+f1, login in terminal , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:17] <erUSUL> chiiiiiz_88: in 64 bit is practically unlimited
[11:17] <cpk1> w3l54666: then just run setup.sh
[11:17] <w3l54666> cpk1: double click it yh??
[11:18] <angelo_> ok let me try it
[11:18] <cpk1> w3l54666: yup
[11:18] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: ;O , how long you helping angelo_ !
[11:18] <w3l54666> ahhh
[11:18] <chiiiiiz_88> I guess that there are other limitations... Can any debian based distro work under 64 bits? Are there any hints or disavantages in 64 bits distros? UbuntuStudio and all applications can work on a 64 bits based arch?
[11:18] <w3l54666> cpk1: im confuse myself sometimes
[11:18] <w3l54666> cpk1: cheers
[11:18] <Elefant> does anyone here have a printer?
[11:18] <SolarisBoy> recently actually ,,i initially thought he didn't have gnome installed, further explanation lead to this
[11:18] <SolarisBoy> 30 minutes maybe?
[11:18] <chiiiiiz_88> I must choose the components of my new computer... that is why I need to know what I am going to be faced to
[11:19] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: i donno , why they are not following us!
[11:19] <sandro_> ciao a tutte/ti
[11:19] <rumpsy> :)
[11:19] <oguncak> hello.. i have an avermedia a706 dvb-s tv card. can anyone help me installing the driver?
[11:19] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[11:19] <angelo_> rumpsy, it didnt work
[11:20] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: you continue ;)
[11:20] <SolarisBoy> lol k
[11:20] <angelo_> thanks for your help guys but i appreciate it lol. im having major issues here. i just switched over from vista
[11:20] <Myrtti> !it > sandro_
[11:22] <zilkomaa> Could some one help me please, after ubuntu 9.10 install i cant boot to windows xp from grub. After pressing enter in grub menu it only loads grub menu again, no error messages and nothing.  Here is the disk info's windows xp is on sda1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365124/  and here grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/365126/
[11:22] <angelo_> SolarisBoy, should i access GDM through terminal?
[11:23] <SolarisBoy> that would be the only method at this point however after a reboot of the system GDM would have restarted
[11:23] <angelo_> yea it didnt. what should i do?
[11:23] <angelo_> am i screwed?
[11:24] <SolarisBoy> thats an odd issue you are facing,, honestly id like the EXACT details of what happend
[11:25] <rumpsy> angelo_: Try for a New theme, download from ubuntu repo
[11:25] <SolarisBoy> are you running compiz,, did you get this theme from offline? (like mac4linux.sh)...things like this
[11:25] <angelo_> i installed the system successfully. Then i had the original brown background image. then I went to change the background and thats where my desktop went to hell lol
[11:25] <angelo_> i dont get it.  i've tried everything
[11:25] <angelo_> im running compiz
[11:26] <Gangrel> !winamp
[11:26] <ninja_> compiz-fusion?
[11:26] <Gangrel> !audacious
[11:26] <angelo_> and the pic i selected for a background was online if i remember correctly
[11:26] <SolarisBoy> ok
[11:26] <garymc> anyone know how to install dovecot-postfix correctly?
[11:26] <hawodi> am having problem starting firefox 3.6 on Ubuntu karmic. When I click to start it, it doesn't come up. When I try starting it from the command line, I get the following: (firefox-bin:2891): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
[11:27] <garymc> or how i configure it
[11:27] <rumpsy> angelo_: we need exact thing, what theme you selected to have this type of buggy window?
[11:27] <angelo_> i did a custom theme
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[11:27] <angelo_> made some changes but nothing major that would result in this
[11:28] <tc111> can someone please show me what i am doing wrong? all my pxe / netbooting livecds worked prior to karmic (and moving to a new machine), now none of them do. http://paste.ubuntu.com/365130/
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: can you still access a command prompt?
[11:28] <rumpsy> angelo_: did you downloaded any new themes?
[11:28] <Nachturnal> anyone know why cairo-dock freezes after i use VLC?
[11:29] <angelo_> by command promt you mean Terminal?
[11:29] <hexa-> hey
[11:29] <SolarisBoy> yes
[11:29] <hexa-> does anybody know how to install 32bit mesa in x86_64 ubuntu?
[11:29] <angelo_> rumpsy, no i didnt
[11:29] <angelo_> i downloaded a matrix bg but thats it
[11:29] <angelo_> yes i can do that
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> ok give me a second im looking for something
[11:30] <rumpsy> angelo_: can you please go to tty1, press ctrl+alt+f1
[11:30] <switchgirl> anyone into HAM radio?
[11:30] <rumpsy> angelo_: there is one solution to reset gnome theme
[11:30] <angelo_> rumpsy, that doesnt do anything
[11:30] <angelo_> it returns erroe
[11:31] <rumpsy> okay, logout, login as a failsafe
[11:31] <crunk> net
[11:31] <rumpsy> angelo_: ^^
[11:31] <angelo_> logout of what?
[11:31] <SolarisBoy> your session
[11:32] <angelo_> what u mean log in as failsafe?
[11:32] <angelo_> what session. im so confused
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> i dont think this will benefit anything as you tried a reboot
[11:32] <angelo_> yea ive tried all that
[11:32] <rumpsy> This is a option in login window manager
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> when you login to ubuntu linux etc usually we can consider this a session
[11:33] <angelo_> how do i log off
[11:33] <angelo_> ill try it. maybe it works
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> dought it
[11:33] <rumpsy> angelo_: in login screen, there is the word like option at bottom, click that and choose failsafe
[11:33] <quietone> rumpsy: what does ^^ mean?
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> means look @ my last statement
[11:33] <garymc> so anyone know how i configure dovecot-postfix so i can host my own emails instead of using a third party?
[11:33] <ugliefrog> yay, im back in ubuntu, had to try W7 but i messed up grub, but i finally fixed it
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> garymc: to do what?
[11:33] <rumpsy> angelo_: in login screen, there is a word like option at bottom, click that and choose failsafe
[11:34] <angelo_> how do i get to the login screen?
[11:34] <rumpsy> angelo_: do you?
[11:34] <hawodi> ??
[11:34] <riktking> how do i access a fatx partition ?
[11:34] <angelo_> without restarting
[11:34] <SolarisBoy> you need valid dNs to host mail
[11:34] <rumpsy> angelo_: press alt+ctrl+backspace
[11:34] <riktking> angelo_ , click logout
[11:34] <Justin_``> Hey, When I try to install java, It says package not found?
[11:34] <angelo_> rumpsy nothing happens when i do that
[11:35] <rumpsy> angelo_: you have to press all at once
[11:35] <angelo_> you think i might have a faulty installation?
[11:35] <riktking> angelo_, look under system menu
[11:35] <rumpsy> angelo_: you have to press all at once
[11:35] <angelo_> i did
[11:35] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: openjdk i believe is in repos,,, for sun java etc need to dl from the site and run the ./*bin afaik
[11:35] <riktking> angelo_, click on system->logout
[11:35] <LinuxGnome> hallo ciao!!!
[11:36] <rumpsy> angelo_: goto system->logout
[11:36] <Justin_``> No such file or directory: ./*bin
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> well... need to dl it first,, and that was to represent some filename.bin
[11:36] <angelo_> rumpsy, i dont see logout option
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> not literally that it is a file name *.bin
[11:36] <Cube``> hi. i have ubuntu installed on my eee pc, but would like to add the backtrack distro as dual boot. how can i do what without screwing up my current ubuntu installation?
[11:37] <zetheroo> hey ... I am running Ubuntu 64bit :)
[11:37] <zetheroo> all looks well ...
[11:37] <SolarisBoy> you need to download a file like install_java-version.bin then make it executable like 'chmod +x install_java-version.bin' then run the file like ./install_java-version.bin
[11:37] <rumpsy> angelo_: do this, press and hold ctrl, and press and hold atl and press backspace
[11:37] <riktking> rumpsy, tried that on my pc, its not working either
[11:38] <angelo_> yea nothing is happening
[11:38] <aleanne82> how can I tell which module is a driver for my usb hub?
[11:38] <ugliefrog> zetheroo--- me too
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> the java install is available from sun/oracle site (not sure how that all works now)
[11:38] <angelo_> im begining to think something might be wrong with the installation of the system
[11:38] <rumpsy> no!
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: me too
[11:38] <angelo_> ctrol alt backspace does nothing when i press
[11:38] <rumpsy> okay
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: are any numlock keys on?
[11:38] <zetheroo> ugliefrog: yeah? ... cool .. I am eager to see how performance will be with encoding video ...
[11:38] <rumpsy> angelo_: open terminal
[11:38] <angelo_> i think so
[11:39] <julikoko> hi
[11:39] <SolarisBoy> that wont work then with numlock i believe
[11:39] <angelo_> ok opened Terminaql
[11:39] <julikoko> hi gurus
[11:39] <zetheroo> ugliefrog: have you noticed any performance difference between 32 and 64 bit?
[11:39] <julikoko> pls is anybody there
[11:39] <angelo_> it still wont work even with numlock off.
[11:39] <ugliefrog> zetheroo--- very much so :)
[11:39] <rumpsy> angelo_: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[11:39] <angelo_> rumpsy, i opened terminal. now what
[11:39] <zetheroo> zetheroo: hi
[11:40] <zetheroo> ugliefrog: yeah? like with what?
[11:40] <airo> lol
[11:40] <airo> lol
[11:40] <airo> ollolol
[11:40] <airo> lllolol
[11:40] <FloodBot3> airo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:40] <rumpsy> airo: stop
[11:40] <rumpsy> angelo_: ?
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> or better yet 'mv .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity /tmp'
[11:40] <julikoko> pls does gedit dosent work on ubuntu?
[11:40] <angelo_> rumpsy, im here. what do i do with all that?
[11:40] <angelo_> enter it in the command prompt?
[11:40] <rumpsy> mv .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity /tmp
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> first type cd ~
[11:41] <rumpsy> angelo_: ^^
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> be sure your in your home
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> then do the move command
[11:41] <ugliefrog> zetheroo--- i have alot more apps going since it can utilize more memory
[11:41] <rumpsy> angelo_: yes, goto home folder, and use that mv command
[11:41] <julikoko> hello
[11:41] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: i think that may help him
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> yea should get recreated with defaults i believe
[11:42] <zetheroo> ugliefrog: right ... I have 4GB and tried the PAE kernel but it did not really improve the performance ...so I am trying the 64bit
[11:42] <angelo_> home folder?
[11:43] <rumpsy> yes
[11:43] <angelo_> and put command where?
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> cd or cd ~
[11:43] <rumpsy> terminal
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> angelo_: type this..
[11:43] <al1irv> I've got an ubuntu server with a samba share for windows users on the network. I have some external windows users that want to have a permanent connect to the samba share through the linksys firewall/router so I have to set up a VPN, which I know nothing about, anyone point me at something that might help
[11:43] <angelo_> rampsy can u please explain step by step in one message everything i should do
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> 'cd ~ ;  mv .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity /tmp'
[11:43] <julikoko> trying to edit some of my php docs in my web directory ie /var/www/.... n use gedit  but got this (gedit:5803): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:43] <xota> hi! when I install a .deb file with dpkg -i can I force ubuntu to install the dependencia automatically
[11:43] <rumpsy> angelo_: opened terminal?
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> everything but the quotes
[11:43] <angelo_> ok
[11:43] <angelo_> yes
[11:43] <rumpsy> type ls
[11:43] <julikoko> is there anybody there to help?
[11:43] <rumpsy> angelo_: what you see?
[11:44] <al1irv> xota, doesn't it do that anyway
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> julikoko:  echo $DISPLAY
[11:44] <angelo_> some stuff popped up
[11:44] <rumpsy> angelo_: type this command, ls
[11:44] <FunkyWeasel> Morning
[11:45] <julikoko>  trying to edit some of my php docs in my web file directory ie /var/www/.... n use gedit  but got this (gedit:5803): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:45] <angelo_> i got some blue letters response
[11:45] <rumpsy> angelo_: can you see folder like Desktop, Documents, and so and so
[11:45] <angelo_> yes
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> julikoko: who is the user you are opening GEDIT with,, and does that user have a display?
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> echo $DISPLAY
[11:45] <FunkyWeasel> Amarok has crashed and I have a looping sound stuck.  How can I stop it?
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> reboot
[11:45] <Quan-Time> SIMPLE paint program... kgo ! what is there ? and dont say gimp.. gimp is NOT easy, nor simple.. i want like "mspaint" simple
[11:45] <julikoko> root
[11:45] <rumpsy> angelo_: what command you used?
[11:45] <hexa-> Funkeh`, killall -9 amarok
[11:45] <Diverdude> is there any way to mark text i want to copy in the terminal using only keyboard (NO mouse) ?
[11:45] <angelo_> ls
[11:46] <FunkyWeasel> SolarisBoy: Seriously?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> no kill amarokapp
[11:46] <hexa-> FunkyWeasel, killall -9 amarok
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> killall -9 amarokapp
[11:46] <julikoko> do u get that?
[11:46] <FunkyWeasel> SolarisBoy: "amarokapp: no process killed"
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> then  killall -9 amarok
[11:46] <rumpsy> angelo_: now use this, just copy and paste, mv .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity /tmp'
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> and if still no reboot
[11:46] <rumpsy> angelo_: without quotes
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> i've had this issue before with amarok on 8.10
[11:46] <FunkyWeasel> SolarisBoy: Same thing.
[11:47] <SolarisBoy> reboot
[11:47] <rumpsy> angelo_: now use this, just copy and paste, mv .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity /tmp
[11:47] <FunkyWeasel> And, what, *seriously*?  I have to give it the windows salute?
[11:47] <julikoko> @solarisboy expecting ur response
[11:47] <Quan-Time> gpaint.. cheers for the help everyone.. *snigger*
[11:47] <rumpsy> angelo_: ?
[11:47] <garymc> I keep getting FAIL when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure dovecot-postfix
[11:47] <xota> al1irv: I think that it doesn't do it
[11:47] <SolarisBoy> julikoko: sorry did you ever give what returned from echo $DISPLAY?
[11:47] <Diverdude> is there any way to mark text i want to copy in the terminal using only keyboard (NO mouse) ?
[11:47] <xota> you must resolve references manually
[11:47] <SolarisBoy> im sure root doesn't have one
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> try to open the file as a normal user
[11:48] <juanma_> \list
[11:48] <angelo_> it wont allow me to cut and paste
[11:48] <garymc> Fatal : listen (<IP_ADDRESS>, 2000) failed : Address already in use
[11:48] <garymc> ??
[11:48] <angelo_> but i typed it in and i got errors
[11:48] <julikoko> nope
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> garymc: lsof -i :2000
[11:48] <alabd> where is keyboard layout files
[11:48] <angelo_> such asno such file in directory
[11:48] <julikoko> so what do i do?
[11:48] <ragsagar> iam gonna download ubuntu 9.10 alternate installation cd, which download manager will be faster?
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> julikoko: dont open the file as root
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> or set root display
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> one or other
[11:48] <julikoko> shld i use "vi"
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> that too
[11:48] <rumpsy> angelo_: again, type,  ls
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> vi wont go open a display it will open in the terminal so that will be fine
[11:49] <FunkyWeasel> On a more general note - I have had a lot of audio problems with the nvidia MCP61 with Ubuntu.  Is it "just one of those things I need to get used to"?
[11:49] <angelo_> ok i typed ls
[11:49] <rumpsy> angelo_:what things you see after this ls com?mand
[11:49] <Diverdude> is there any way to mark text i want to copy in the terminal using only keyboard (NO mouse) ?
[11:49] <angelo_> desktop, documents, downloads, etc
[11:49] <FunkyWeasel> Along with having to reboot the work pc at least once a week because of audio problems?
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> FunkyWeasel: i have as well im not having that many audio issues it creeps up usually when im over exerting things on the audio side
[11:50] <julikoko> ok
[11:50] <rumpsy> angelo_: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[11:50] <angelo_> next to downloads it says Firefox wallpaper.png
[11:50] <julikoko> tanx man
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> np
[11:50] <FunkyWeasel> SolarisBoy: I wouldn't think running amarok would overtax ubuntu though.
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> i dont think it does
[11:50] <rumpsy> angelo_: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity , type these and press enter
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> i think it confuses the audio system and gets held up in wait states
[11:50] <garymc> SolarisBoy : I did this what now?
[11:51] <FunkyWeasel> SolarisBoy: Good to know, but shockingly unimpressive.
[11:51] <Diverdude> is there any way to mark text i want to copy in the terminal using only keyboard (NO mouse) ?
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> garymc: if a pid wsas returned then something is listening on port 2000
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> and that pid is what it is
[11:51] <angelo_> rumpsy,  i typed it in and it just returned to another command prompt
[11:52] <angelo_> has anybody figured out why the desktop background doesnt show?
[11:52] <garymc> nothing was returned SolarisBoy
[11:52] <rumpsy> angelo_: what it says?
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> garymc: where is the error coming from you pasted in a while back?
[11:52] <rumpsy> angelo_: any errors for that command?
[11:52] <angelo_> angelo@ubuntu:~$
[11:52] <angelo_> no
[11:52] <julikoko> @solaris "vi" is somehow fustrating
[11:52] <julikoko> cldnt save
[11:52] <rumpsy> angelo_: restart your system
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> vi is text-god
[11:53] <garymc> when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure dovecot-postfix SolarisBoy
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> sudo vi
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> if its under /var/www
[11:54] <angelo_> brb
[11:54] <julikoko> ok
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> garymc: interesting,, can i see your output again?
[11:54] <garymc> Fatal : listen (<IP_ADDRESS>, 2000) failed : Address already in use
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> oh i se
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> see the webgui port
[11:55] <quietone> rumpsy: just checking. the 'ls' was to confirm home directory? and why not restart gdm instead of reboot?
[11:55] <FunkyWeasel> SolarisBoy: Ah well, thanks for the help.  *rebootan*
[11:55] <julikoko> but i need  to get myself acquainted  vi
[11:55] <garymc> SolarisBoy ?
[11:55] <rumpsy> quietone: he can't goto tty1
[11:55] <SolarisBoy> the web gui runs on port 2000
[11:56] <SolarisBoy> something else on your system is running that port as well
[11:56] <rumpsy> quietone: And we are helping him for more than 45 min
[11:56] <garymc> im running an LTSP server
[11:56] <SolarisBoy> you need to review the ports listening on that server
[11:56] <garymc> im a noobie im clueless virtually
[11:57] <SolarisBoy> if 2000 is being held open by some process that wont work unless 1. stop the process presently listening on port 20002. make the web gui listen on a port other than 2000
[11:57] <SolarisBoy> and oh yea do sudo 'lsof -i :2000'
[11:57] <angelo> rampy i dont know what we did but it works. Awesome
[11:57] <Justin_``> Gah this is rather annoying. I can't get apt-get to download the java package!!
[11:57] <quietone> rumpsy: thx. you are examples of patience.
[11:57] <angelo> and thank you too Solaris \boy  for helping out
[11:57] <rumpsy> :)
[11:57] <garymc> SolarisBoy : i did the lsof thingy nothing happens
[11:57] <SolarisBoy> removing all the .* files allowd them to be recreated with default settings,, nice one rumpsy
[11:58] <angelo> awesome work
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> did you do it with sudo?
[11:58] <rumpsy> angelo: ;)
[11:58] <angelo> now how do u make some extra money lol
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> if not you likely wont see any proc root is running
[11:58] <intgr> Hi; I following the network bridging guide in Ubuntu 9.10 Server Guide, but when I try to start the network through 'ifup', I get "br0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[11:58] <intgr> And yes, I did install bridge-utils
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> if root has a process listening on 2000 thats the issue
[11:58] <rkruse> O:-)
[11:59] <rkruse> hello all
[11:59] <garymc> solarisboy yes with sudo
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> ok and still nothing?
[11:59] <garymc> Sorry i didnt use sudo inow i do
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> ok
[11:59] <joshua1> does anyone know if there is a package for nautilus to get a thumbnail view option?
[11:59] <shafi> I have an external hard disk , but I can't mount it automatically in my ubuntu (Kramic) , can some one help please: this is the partition table: http://pastebin.com/m60bab1dc
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> thats in options for nautilus joshua1
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> look at the top menu and check the preferences
[12:00] <tobiasz> why is ubuntu such a resource hog? Drag n dropping is lagged, and sometimes I need to try few times until I succed using it, when no apps are running still about 400mb of memory is used wth?
[12:00] <Justin_``> Would there be a reason why when I try to go to 'http://sun.java.com' it shows a page in google saying its not found?
[12:00] <Ace> .
[12:00] <ubuntu_mad> can some one help me with KDE desktop?
[12:00] <tobiasz> can someone explain it to me?
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> tobiasz: thats not ubuntus fault
[12:00] <tobiasz> it is
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> tobiasz: dought it
[12:00] <garymc> SolarisBoy : http//pastebin.ca/1770649
[12:00] <indus> ubuntu_mad, #kubuntu
[12:00] <Justin_``> Would there be a reason why when I try to go to 'http://sun.java.com' it shows a page in google saying its not found?
[12:01] <Ace> Hi just need some help with networking information
[12:01] <tauer> why can't I join in #ubuntu-devel channel?
[12:01] <Ace> :-[
[12:01] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: sun was bought by oracle
[12:01] <indus> tobiasz, yeah thats how ubuntu is
[12:01] <ubuntu_mad> indus: thanks
[12:01] <SolarisBoy> like yesterday
[12:01] <indus> tobiasz, you could try other distros like arch
[12:01] <SolarisBoy> since that official news i have been having issues on the sun site as well
[12:01] <indus> tobiasz, but they aint easy to use or administer like ubuntu
[12:01] <SolarisBoy> try the oracle site
[12:01] <tobiasz> indus arch would take too much time to do simple things
[12:01] <indus> tobiasz, yes
[12:02] <shafi> anyone?
[12:02] <tobiasz> indus ubuntu is just slow, xp is thousand times faster
[12:02] <indus> tobiasz, you could try removing some apps runing in background
[12:02] <ekontsevoy> How can I launch any GTK-based app in a given directory via Gnome launcher? Right now it launches in "/" which is super annoying
[12:02] <indus> tobiasz, thats not correct, how much ram you ahve?
[12:02] <SolarisBoy> tobiasz: this is not true
[12:02] <nyaa> hello, has there ever been a case where suspend or hibernate ruined a bios to the point where you can't even see a post message?
[12:02] <tobiasz> 2gb ram gf 7800gt amd athlon 64 4000+
[12:02] <Ace> nice
[12:03] <indus> ubuntu is faster to boot to desktop , and later as fast as xp when navigating,
[12:03] <joshua1> hmmm if you're talking about file management preferences, i don't see an option to set up a thumbnail view.
[12:03] <tobiasz> indus not true in my case
[12:03] <joshua1> any idea where i can find the nautilus config??
[12:03] <indus> tobiasz, windows xp will slow down over time you will have noticed, ubuntu stays same
[12:03] <silv3r_m00n> any issues with ubuntu 9.10 64bit on a  core2quad+ 1gb ram
[12:03] <SolarisBoy> nope
[12:03] <Justin_``> The oracle site still dose the google error :S
[12:03] <indus> tobiasz, tell us your system specs
[12:03] <indus> tobiasz, turn off desktop effects to get more speed
[12:04] <tobiasz> indus I had perfectly solid xp for few years with no performance drop, just ned to clean things from time to time
[12:04] <Justin_``> But then on my vista laptop it loads fine?
[12:04] <garymc> SolarisBoy : what do you make of my pastebin?
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> ooops never looked =)
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> one sec
[12:04] <indus> tobiasz, well,in xp the file system gets fragmented over time, so it surely gets slower from the  time you install it
[12:04]  * om26er don't agree with tobiasz
[12:04] <indus> tobiasz, ubuntu doesnt need defrags
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> cisco-sccp is on port 2000
[12:04] <aleanne82> indus: stop telling this
[12:05] <garymc> what is that?
[12:05] <aleanne82> indus: ext are fragmenting as the ntfs
[12:05] <indus> tobiasz, i repeat, tell us your system specs
[12:05] <tobiasz> indus so I tell once again
[12:05] <tobiasz> 2gb ram gf 7800gt amd athlon 64 4000+
[12:05] <garymc> how do i make postfix or dovecot listen on differnt port?
[12:05] <indus> tobiasz, and which version of ubuntu
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> garymc: its a cisco protocol used to manage cisco call manager and its nodes
[12:06] <tobiasz> 9.10 gnome
[12:06] <indus> aleanne82, give me a link to prove it
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> whos server is this?
[12:06] <indus> tobiasz, is compix on?
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> garymc: in a conf file that can be done
[12:06] <tobiasz> indus I disable it for gaming or flash movies
[12:06] <dnivra> a small question: is there a way to defrag in ubuntu? I've never really felt a need but is there an app to do it?
[12:06] <indus> tobiasz, compiz is a resource hog
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> no need to defrag in ubuntu
[12:06] <indus> tobiasz, i never use it
[12:06] <aleanne82> indus: man filefrag
[12:06] <tobiasz> indus compiz is worthless and unefficient
[12:07] <SolarisBoy> ext3 defrags its self
[12:07] <indus> tobiasz, yes
[12:07] <tobiasz> indus so is gnome
[12:07] <indus> tobiasz, then try kde
[12:07] <garymc> SolarisBoy why is it listening to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:07] <SolarisBoy> because that indicates all interfaces
[12:07] <SolarisBoy> its a wildcard IP address
[12:07] <tobiasz> indus I didn't like kde, it seemed like even more unefficient
[12:07] <garymc> what port should i change it too?
[12:07] <SolarisBoy> a free one
[12:07] <aleanne82> SolarisBoy: it just has no defragmenter, it does frament as ext2 or ext4
[12:08] <garymc> how would i know a free one?
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> hmmm
[12:08] <tobiasz> indus xfce is kinda cool but I would need a clean install to get it going perfectly, cuz it's just a mess
[12:08] <indus> aleanne82, thanks but you should know ,its something rarely used
[12:08] <indus> tobiasz, do you have an intel graphics chip?
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> garymc: well you can do lsof -i4 -n |grep LIST
[12:08] <dnivra> I use ext4. how is the defragmentation in ext4? really high?
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> under sudo or as root
[12:08] <tobiasz> indus no NVIDIA 7800GT GF
[12:09] <indus> tobiasz, aah sorry yes
[12:09] <indus> tobiasz, so i see no reason why you should have a slow system, i have 1 gb ram only
[12:09] <SolarisBoy> and that will show which ports are opened and listening so pick one thats not thatmm and one thats above port 1023
[12:09] <indus> tobiasz, although firefox on linux is slower than windows version
[12:09] <tobiasz> indus not that it boots slow or something, because it's decent
[12:09] <SolarisBoy> aleanne82: i need to review that statement
[12:09] <tobiasz> indus I do not use ff cuz I hate it :P
[12:10] <indus> tobiasz, yes i have moved to chrome
[12:10] <indus> tobiasz, so if you could go step by step and remove some things from startup apps, maybe you could speed up
[12:10] <leo> hello
[12:10] <tobiasz> I stay with Opera it's faster and more proper than any browser
[12:11] <DVS01> hey im wondering how exactly spamassassin matches spam.. i sent myself an email with content like "xxx hardcore sluts waiting to suck on you!!! free credit report" and whatnot... and that did not get flagged as spam. so i'm wondering what exactly makes it tick
[12:11] <SolarisBoy> lol not
[12:11] <indus> tobiasz, but yes ubuntu is slower than other distros like arch or maybe gentoo
[12:11] <tobiasz> indus I already did
[12:11] <indus> tobiasz, then i guess its as fast as it can be
[12:11] <dnivra> I just did filefrag and it said "1 extent found". that means it is fragmented right?
[12:11] <tobiasz> indus I think maybe 64 bit is not supported well
[12:11] <indus> tobiasz, dont worry about the ram, its a little diff from windows
[12:11] <dnivra> is there a way do defrag in 9.10?
[12:11] <indus> tobiasz, no, iam on 64 bit, its same
[12:11] <aleanne82> DVS01: look into the manual, it explains the rules used and it's weight
[12:11] <tobiasz> indus on xp cpu usage is perfectly 0-1%
[12:12] <DVS01> will do
[12:12] <garymc> SolarisBoy: ok 1500 should be ok?
[12:12] <garymc> how do I set it?
[12:12] <tobiasz> indus in ubuntu it oscilates around 15%
[12:12] <SolarisBoy> sure why not
[12:12] <indus> tobiasz, yes cpu should be used, thats why we have it isnt it
[12:12] <indus> it should be at 100 percent frankly, i paid full money for it :)
[12:13] <tobiasz> indus hmm, you're right :P
[12:13] <indus> i dont understand why people want cpu's at 0 %, thats just crazy
[12:13] <nyaa> has there ever been a case of suspend or hibernate completely breaking a bios to the point where you can't see a post?
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> lol cpu at 0 is scary
[12:13] <indus> a quad core always at 0 - 10 % ? thats inefficiency i say
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> what exactly is the thing doing?
[12:14] <indus> tobiasz, a browser will stress the cpu upto 30 percent i have seen on startup,then flash etc push to 100
[12:15] <indus> and the processor is designed to run at full speed or we should return it :)
[12:15] <indus> ok enough chit chat
[12:15] <indus> tobiasz, so just open system monitoer and tell me usage now
[12:15] <indus> and tell me what appls are running
[12:15] <tobiasz> indus flash is worthless, nothing much to do with it, decent enough to watch windowed, fullscreen is choppy
[12:15] <indus> tobiasz, if you can find flash 9 , install that, its awesome
[12:15] <DemoOn> which driver should i choose for Radeon 9550? Ive bad performance.. :(
[12:16] <indus> tobiasz, i searched but cant find the older one
[12:16] <aleanne82> DemoOn: fglrx of course
[12:16] <DVS01> i want to test mailscanner's virus detection abilities. will searching google for viruses lead me to finding what i need?
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> garymc: garymc not sure,, certainly in some config file though,, i do sendmail so sorry can't help much there =)
[12:16] <DemoOn> aleanne82: how to install it?
[12:16] <tobiasz> indus then upload it for me :)
[12:16] <indus> DVS01, just go to some cd key hack site and download any file
[12:16] <indus> you need something called teh vrirus bomb
[12:16] <tobiasz> indus both cores usage oscilates arround 30-50%
[12:16] <DVS01> indus: not all of those are infected tho..
[12:17] <aleanne82> demoon: i don't know (
[12:17] <indus> tobiasz, firefox running? what is running and using it ?check in processes
[12:17] <tobiasz> indus Opera, XChat, and Evolution opened
[12:17] <indus> evolution of cousrs
[12:17] <indus> opera too
[12:18] <indus> tobiasz, the cpu should oscillate at 50
[12:18] <indus> leave it alone
[12:18] <indus> its absoperfectly fine
[12:18] <tobiasz> indus Opera uses from 6 to 16% cpu
[12:18] <aleanne82> no, it's not
[12:18] <indus> if you dont use cpu full, the processor will rust
[12:18] <indus> :)
[12:18] <Kartagis> where to download ubuntu mobile?
[12:18] <indus> Kartagis, ubuntu netbook remix?
[12:18] <indus> aleanne82, why not
[12:18] <Kartagis> is it that indus ?
[12:19] <indus> Kartagis, its for netbooks, is that the one you want?
[12:19] <tobiasz> indus evolution 20mbs Opera about 200mbs :P
[12:19] <indus> tobiasz, heh opera is using the flash and the tabs you have opened is a lot i feel
[12:19] <aleanne82> because processor should be idle if nothing happens on the system
[12:19] <tobiasz> indus indeed youtube is open
[12:19] <indus> aleanne82, read what he said, he has opera, evo all open
[12:20] <SolarisBoy> my firefox 200m at the moment
[12:20] <w4t> can i ask for some help?
[12:20] <SolarisBoy> with multiple tabs open
[12:20] <Kartagis> indus, I don't really know, my colleague said there was a ubuntu mobile
[12:20] <indus> firefox sometimes goes to 500 mb
[12:20] <aleanne82> and what? evolution is calculating something?
[12:20] <indus> Kartagis, i think maybe
[12:20] <indus> Kartagis, wait  1 sec
[12:20] <indus> Kartagis, you want for laptop ?
[12:20] <Kartagis> yes
[12:20] <SolarisBoy> yea i've seen it shoot there,, depends on what all your loading up
[12:20] <Kartagis> indus, ^^
[12:20] <tobiasz> indus friend of mine has averange memory usage of 1gb on lone firefox
[12:21] <aleanne82> only flash loads the processor much due to the lack hardware YUV->RGB conversion
[12:21] <NKRIP> Hello how do I read encrypted win xp folders in Ubuntu ?
[12:21] <indus> tobiasz, lol thats some bug then
[12:21] <fredensborg> Where do I go to post a screenshot here?
[12:21] <tobiasz> indus but he has lots, and I mean LOTS of tabs :P
[12:21] <indus> aleanne82, you a person with tech knowledge i believe
[12:21] <indus> good
[12:21] <SolarisBoy> yea 1Gb browser process is absolutely ridiculous
[12:21] <SolarisBoy> does he habe a gazillion plugins running?
[12:22] <indus> tobiasz, yes the tabs can take up mem ,
[12:22] <Justin_``> How to I enable remote SSH connections to my ubuntu?
[12:22] <Justin_``> Via putty
[12:22] <tobiasz> SolarisBoy just lotta tabs
[12:22] <indus> tobiasz, but i dont think firefox can handle it
[12:22] <indus> Kartagis, its for mobile handhelds
[12:22] <iceroot> Justin_``: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:22] <erUSUL> 100+ tabs each with a 4096x4096 image XXDD
[12:22] <SolarisBoy> well i used to have an issue of that nature i upgraded my firefox to 3.6 thats out the window now,, i load 2 seperate web portals daily with no issues now
[12:23] <indus> Kartagis, its not for you though and also its a dead project as of now http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[12:23] <fredensborg> !screenshot
[12:23] <SolarisBoy> 2 portals + whatever else im browsing etc.
[12:23] <indus> Kartagis, you can install regular ubuntu
[12:23] <NickStarchild> I have a question about the iPhone/iPod Touch app Touch Mouse (made by Logitech). The .exe runs (with WINE), installs and works, but I only get trackpad use (instead of buttons). Is there anything extra I need to install or something? http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/494/6367&hub=1&cl=us,en?bit=&osid=1
[12:23] <tobiasz> indus 2 tabs 222 mbs no flash atm
[12:23] <Justin_``> Says packetage is not available
[12:23] <Mcrcurlal> ..
[12:23] <fredensborg> I helped myself...
[12:23] <bassliner> so where could one disable ctrl-alt-delete combo to reboot a system on systems without inittab?
[12:23] <iceroot> Justin_``: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:23] <NKRIP> Anyone know how do I read encrypted winxp folder in ubuntu ?
[12:23] <indus> tobiasz, 222 is normal, remember, linux uses ram in a diff way and reports it so
[12:24] <indus> tobiasz, its not all what you think
[12:24] <indus> can someone help me out here
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> tobiasz: need to look at the process under /proc if you more info on what all memory is being used on
[12:24] <tobiasz> indus it's just when I want to play ET: Quake Wars I want possibly full resources put into running the game
[12:25] <indus> tobiasz, i play quAKE 4
[12:25] <tobiasz> indus not some other tasks which are pointless when I am playing
[12:25] <indus> tobiasz, works like a char,
[12:25] <indus> m
[12:25] <aleanne82> NKRIP: i'm afraid it's not possible now
[12:25] <tobiasz> indus QW also works awesome, but I am just a frames per second maniac
[12:25] <indus> tobiasz, if you dont need evolution i suggest you remove that stupid evo data server from processes
[12:25] <tobiasz> indus I play it in high details
[12:25] <Nicador_fl> Does anybody have a clue how can I stop SYN flood attacks ?
[12:25] <fredensborg> something seems wrong with the search function on http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ . See http://imagebin.org/82381
[12:25] <tobiasz> indus 1650x1050
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: theres a kernel option for this
[12:25] <Justin_``> iceroot, Do you know why I cant do 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk'?
[12:26] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: Can you give me a link or tutorial ?
[12:26] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: it may be there and disabled check /etc/sysctl.conf
[12:26] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: one sec i think mines is enabled...
[12:26] <novato_br> ubuntu 9.10 hasn't keept keyboard's settings
[12:26] <novato_br> what can I do?
[12:27] <Justin_``> Do you know why I cant do 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk'?
[12:27] <indus> Justin_``, spelled package wrong or not enabled universe repo
[12:27] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: #net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=1
[12:27] <Justin_``> how do you enabke it in the universe repo?
[12:27] <tobiasz> indus I like evolution, there are 2 processes some data-server thingy and some exchange-storage thingy
[12:27] <SolarisBoy> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies
[12:27] <iceroot> Justin_``: because you dont have the correct repo enabled
[12:27] <novato_br> ?
[12:27] <iceroot> !java | Justin_``
[12:27] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: yeps
[12:27] <Justin_``> I tried that..
[12:28] <iceroot> Justin_``: it was the multiverse repo
[12:28] <indus> Justin_``, type without the quotes :)
[12:28] <tobiasz> indus they both eat about 6mb ram so it's not a problem
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: give that a whirl
[12:28] <Nicador_fl> It is 1. But it's commented. Do I have to un commented?
[12:28] <indus> aah multiverse
[12:28] <indus> yes
[12:28] <tobiasz> indus but dunno if I need them
[12:28] <indus> !sun
[12:28] <Justin_``> indus, I am, I used quotes so you could see the command
[12:28] <indus> !java
[12:28] <FloodBot3> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <indus> Justin_``, ya sorry for that silly comment
[12:28] <indus> its in multi
[12:28] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: The line must be commented ?
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> no
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> uncomment and run sysctl -p as root or under sudo
[12:29] <tc111> can someone please show me what i am doing wrong? all my pxe / netbooting livecds worked prior to karmic (and moving to a new machine), now none of them do. http://paste.ubuntu.com/365130/
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> or echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies for immediate but temporary change
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> wont persist a reboot
[12:29] <novato_br> when I restart the notebook ubuntu 9.10 has lost keyboard's settings
[12:30] <novato_br> why has it happened?
[12:30] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: Still getting SYN :| And the port is blocked.
[12:30] <indus> novato_br, maybe permissions
[12:30] <iceroot> Justin_``: enable multiverse, run  sudo apt-get update, then run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[12:30] <hero1900> i have an issue some times sudenlly my totem will not play any video and when i try to play them by vlc there is no sound in it any one can help?
[12:30] <SolarisBoy> where are you getting this? and what port is blocked?
[12:31] <Nicador_fl> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:1411     <IP_ADDRESS>:63933      SYN_RECV
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> did that connection exist previously?
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> to the change?
[12:31] <Nicador_fl> What do you mean ?
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> thats a state of TCP finite machine
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> before you edited the sysctl -p was that connection there?
[12:32] <Nicador_fl> I restared the software after the change in /etc/sysctl.conf
[12:32] <novato_br> how can I get permission, indus ?
[12:32] <novato_br> my user is root
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> the software which is holding that port open correct?
[12:32] <Nicador_fl> Verlihub
[12:33] <Nicador_fl> Yes.
[12:33] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365161/
[12:33] <indus> novato_br, wait i search a little
[12:33] <indus> novato_br, which shortcuts tell me
[12:33] <indus> novato_br, remember , in 9.10 now the windows key wont work alone
[12:34] <Justin_``> How do I make a new openssh account that dosn't have root access and cant use the sudo command>
[12:34] <indus> novato_br, you need to press with another combo to work
[12:34] <SolarisBoy> ok 2 questions how are you blocking the port? iptables?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Justin_``:  only the initial user has sudo access by default i beliv. so just make a new user.
[12:34] <novato_br> my keboard is layout brazilian portuguese
[12:34] <indus> Dr_Willis, HELLo doctor
[12:34] <indus> Dr_Willis, happy new year
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> indus:  Moo! :)
[12:34] <Justin_``> Dr_Willis, How do I go about making a new user
[12:34]  * Dr_Willis checks the calander
[12:35] <indus> its still january so no problem
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Justin_``:  thers a user  account tool in the menus or use the adduser command
[12:35] <novato_br> when I restarted it lost the layout has changed to USA
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> sudo adduser bgates
[12:35] <indus> novato_br, aah that way
[12:35] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: I'm not blocking the port. The attackers are. I don't have any enteries in iptables because the lack of my expertise.
[12:35] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: i see
[12:35] <indus> novato_br, just add the keyboard indicator applet to panel and select from there
[12:35] <novato_br> So, I was going to system => preference => keyboard
[12:35] <indus> novato_br, there you can set your languae as default
[12:36] <novato_br> I don't see any applet for that
[12:36] <indus> novato_br, right click on panel > add to panel >keyboard indicator
[12:36] <indus> happy to help :)
[12:36] <SolarisBoy> `-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1411 -j ACCEPT` something like that would do assuming you input change is named input
[12:36] <SolarisBoy> but change the aCCEPT TO DENY
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> i mean DROP =)
[12:37] <Nicador_fl> -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1411 -j DROP
[12:37] <Nicador_fl> This is the line right ?
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> correct now ....
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> if you are going to edit the file directly
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> if not iptables  -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1411 -j DROP
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> need to prepend the command iptables to those arguments
[12:37] <echosystm|a> whats a good msn client that supports webcam?
[12:38] <Nicador_fl> Now I have to restart something ?
[12:38] <echosystm|a> i dont want to use amsn, it seems dodgy every time i use it
[12:38] <indus> echosystm|a, empathy should
[12:38] <indus> echosystm|a, with sound
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: run sudo iptables -nvL
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> should your deny rule and some stats?
[12:38] <indus> actually i need help with empathy
[12:38] <indus> cant see my own webcam but see the othe person
[12:38] <Nicador_fl> Yes.
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> k
[12:38] <novato_br> indus, thank you
[12:38] <novato_br> I did it
[12:38] <Nicador_fl> Want a pastebin ?
[12:39] <quietone> i'd like to forward email between our home machines so that the msg stays on our home network? How difficult? Where should I be reading?
[12:39] <indus> novato_br, works fine now?
[12:39] <SolarisBoy> sure
[12:39] <novato_br> I'm gonna restart
[12:39] <SolarisBoy> and also...
[12:39] <novato_br> and I will see if it works
[12:39] <indus> novato_br, ok just clicking on that will change layouts
[12:39] <echosystm|a> does empathy pull down a craptonne of gnome dependencies?
[12:39] <SolarisBoy> include the process the output of lsof -i :1411 and anything else which comes to mind,, it appears someone started abusing your port
[12:39] <tobiasz> indus where do I put flashplugin for firefox to find it
[12:39] <novato_br> I want to keep brazilian portuguese default
[12:39] <echosystm|a> i dont run gnome, so things like that are a lot of overhead
[12:39] <indus> echosystm|a, its installed default n 9.10
[12:39] <novato_br> I wont to make changing
[12:39] <w4t> Guys, i have a problem. I want to reinstall Vista on my other partition. How can I do this without killing grub? I don't have my live-cd. and I'm in school atm, cant download a new one. any suggestions?
[12:39] <indus> echosystm|a, then hmm how about kopete?
[12:40] <indus> novato_br, you can from that preferences in applet
[12:40]  * uncmar babbles.
[12:40] <echosystm|a> wouldnt kopete pull down a lot of KDE dependencies?
[12:40] <SolarisBoy> im sure if you sort that netstat output by the remote column those IPs are just about all in the same blocks
[12:40] <uncmar> crontab, run-parts --report cron.daily   Creates a report that goes somewhere?  where?
[12:40] <echosystm|a> lol
[12:40] <novato_br> I missing when ubunut had a lot line of commands
[12:40] <indus> tobiasz, you said you had flash already
[12:40] <Nicador_fl> My god SolarisBoy it worked.
[12:40] <novato_br> ubuntu is gui a lot
[12:40] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: wonderful
[12:40] <novato_br> it doesn't works, indus
[12:40] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365164/
[12:41] <indus> novato_br, click on it and it will change from usa
[12:41] <novato_br> it changed to USA layout
[12:41] <tobiasz> indus just want to do a benchmark with new alpha version of 10.1 and firefox which I don't use
[12:41] <indus> novato_br, have you installed the language pack properly
[12:41] <novato_br> hum
[12:41] <rasstar> i just installed ubuntu to a raid 0 device. since when does ubuntu support raid?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[12:41] <indus> rasstar, since long long time
[12:41] <SolarisBoy> and after you restart that service next time any rampid connections should be gone
[12:41] <novato_br> good idea, indus
[12:41] <novato_br> I don't know
[12:41] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: Is that in anyway limiting connexions in that port?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> isent raid 0 like.. Less reliable then just a single hd?
[12:42] <novato_br> I made standart ubuntu's installation
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: in every way it is
[12:42] <indus> novato_br, how did you install your language?
[12:42] <indus> novato_br, aah ok thats why
[12:42] <novato_br> I don't know
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> that specific rule drops any connection there
[12:42] <novato_br> I chose brazilian portuguese
[12:42] <indus> novato_br, go to ssystem>admin>language support
[12:42] <novato_br> I see that now
[12:42]  * gzur just did the stupidest thing imaginable: rm -r /*
[12:42] <rasstar> didn't have to do anything for it to work
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> if you would like to tone it down i suggest you sort the netstat output and block those IP ranges
[12:42] <gzur> forgot the .
[12:43] <zvacet> !list
[12:43] <rasstar> it recognized the raid device with the live cd
[12:43] <novato_br> it is saying that package hasn't installed completely
[12:43] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: Seems like the port is blocked. For some ip's :|
[12:43] <tobiasz> indus firefox is a retarded browser
[12:43] <zvacet> !packages
[12:43] <indus> tobiasz, do not say that
[12:43] <novato_br> how can I install them if my notebook hasn't internet connection?
[12:43] <tobiasz> indus I tried to put it in so many locations and ff still doesn't use flashplugin
[12:44] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: i sorted that output
[12:44] <uncmar> My understanding is that I can put a script that WORKS in the cron.daily folder and it will run at the specified time.
[12:44] <indus> tobiasz, install if from the package manager dude
[12:44] <tobiasz> indus as I said I am testing a beta release of 10.1
[12:44] <uncmar> I am not seeing evidence of the script running when it is suppose to.
[12:44] <indus> novato_br, from layouts , you add your language or layout
[12:44] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: I ran on online port check and 1411 is blocked. But I am in the hub along with 33 other users. Before the attacks I had a decent 600+
[12:44] <Justin_``> Do I have to install a package to get a FTP server running?
[12:44] <indus> tobiasz, alpha2 support in #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <Slart> Justin_``: yes
[12:44] <Slart> !ftpd | Justin_``
[12:45] <indus> tobiasz, try not to use such language for projects like firefox
[12:45] <Justin_``> pure-ftpd install line?
[12:45] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: so block those IPs which were abusive
[12:45] <SolarisBoy> IP blocks actually
[12:45] <Slart> Justin_``: something like    sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd    the package might be called something else though
[12:45] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: With iptables ?
[12:45] <Justin_``> ok
[12:45] <Slart> Justin_``: start by searching    apt-cache search pure ftp
[12:46] <novato_br> Now I got it, indus
[12:46] <indus> novato_br, good
[12:46] <indus> novato_br, working now?
[12:46] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/365167/
[12:46] <novato_br> My problem is my ubuntu is half English and Brazilian Portuguese
[12:46] <SolarisBoy> sorted
[12:46] <novato_br> no no, it doesn't work
[12:46] <indus> novato_br, you can also select at installation time if its available
[12:46] <SolarisBoy> see the pattern?
[12:46] <novato_br> I meant I understood
[12:46] <indus> novato_br, logout and login
[12:46] <Nicador_fl> Hmm... yes.
[12:46] <indus> novato_br, or  restart is best idea
[12:46] <tobiasz> can I replace compiz with something more efficient and less buggy?
[12:47] <student> hai everyone is there any issue in using the Win2-7 Transformation pack(theme)
[12:47] <Slart> tobiasz: not really, no
[12:47] <novato_br> I have restarted
[12:47] <novato_br> but it isn't working
[12:47] <indus> tobiasz, sure
[12:47] <Nicador_fl> If I block all of these Ip's then I will have to remove the first rule. RIght ?
[12:47] <indus> novato_br, restart
[12:47] <indus> !e17
[12:47] <Slart> tobiasz: not if you want the same features
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: or edit it but yes
[12:47] <novato_br> layout still USA
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> student:  last i heard about that - and looked into it for a guy.. the docs/theme/parts were rather.. poorly done
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> you can fine tune the rule to only block those ips
[12:47] <indus> novato_br, left click on that applet
[12:47] <novato_br> indus, how can I make setting by hand?
[12:48] <novato_br> can I edit xorg.conf?
[12:48] <Nicador_fl> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j DROP
[12:48] <Nicador_fl> Something like this. Right ?
[12:48] <student> Dr_Willis: its a great theme..have you tried it??
[12:48] <novato_br> this is not working
[12:48] <novato_br> by applet settings
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> student:  i see no reason to use it.
[12:48] <novato_br> this is not working by applet settings
[12:48] <Slart> tobiasz: but is it really compiz that is unsable? sure it's not the graphics driver?
[12:48] <indus> novato_br, i see brazilian but i dont see brazilian portugues
[12:48] <indus> novato_br, which language exactly you want
[12:48] <novato_br> portuguese*
[12:48] <novato_br> yeah yeah
[12:48] <student> Dr_Willis: oh...so which is the them u prefer?
[12:48] <novato_br> brazilian = brazilian portuguese
[12:49] <BigMack83> in movie player, when manually trying to seek to a given spot with the slider it wont go to the desired spot, but will instantly rewind to a point before that. making it difficult to watch some video and when needing to re-watch a small portion, instead havign to wtch the previous minute sometimes just to get to what was 10 seconds before
[12:49] <novato_br> I want brazilian layout
[12:49] <SolarisBoy> -A INPUT -p tcp -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 1411 -j DENY <--rough example of blocking net blocks that one uses an internal class C for instance
[12:49] <BigMack83> is there a way to fix that?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> student:  i tend to just install a few from the gnome art sites. or repos.. and  tweak them as i want.
[12:49] <novato_br> there are two layouts here
[12:49] <novato_br> USA and Brazilian
[12:49] <Nicador_fl> What is the /24 ?
[12:49] <novato_br> but USA overwrite Brazilian layout settings
[12:49] <student> Dr_Willis: this theme also comes from gnome-look.org
[12:49] <indus> novato_br, there is also portugal
[12:49] <indus> novato_br, there are many many
[12:49] <SolarisBoy> CIDR notation for a 24 bit mask
[12:49] <novato_br> I don't want Portugal
[12:49] <ariellow> ja i tak nic z tego nie rozumiem
[12:49] <SolarisBoy> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:50] <indus> novato_br, then?
[12:50] <novato_br> yeah, indus
[12:50] <novato_br> I want brazilian layout
[12:50] <aleanne82> !pl
[12:50] <student> Dr_Willis: i want to know whether there would be any legal issues
[12:50] <indus> novato_br, then use brazilian
[12:50] <novato_br> I want brazilian layout works
[12:50] <joshua1> alright, i'm wondering if my question about the folder thumbnails is meant more for the off topic ubuntu chat??
[12:50] <ariellow> ok
[12:50] <arbol> hello! does anyone know an app/gui for ubuntu that manages vhosts/dns/ftp/mysql  for productions proposes, like an hosting panel ehcp
[12:50] <novato_br> but it isn't working
[12:50] <Slart> joshua1: nah.. go ahead and ask
[12:50] <indus> novato_br, there are 2 , country and then variant
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> .. /24 = <IP_ADDRESS> /8 = <IP_ADDRESS> and so on and so on...
[12:50] <tobiasz> indus can I uninstall compiz just like that without making amess?
[12:50] <joshua1> well, i just found an app called avatar that would display the folders as cd covers and such and likewise for dvds.
[12:51] <novato_br> when I chose brazilian layout the settings isn't keeping
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> student:  yes i  have seen 'legal issues' with look alike themes in the past.  Not so many issues recently..  but you never know when apple or MS may decide to cause a fuss.
[12:51] <Slart> arbol: you mean something like cpanel?
[12:51] <indus> tobiasz, yes of course
[12:51] <joshua1> but from what i've read so far it seems like it might be unstable with ubuntu. :S
[12:51] <indus> novato_br, it has to install
[12:51] <arbol> yes but for managing my developmente websites
[12:51] <Slart> arbol: you might want to look at ebox as well
[12:51] <novato_br> hum
[12:51] <riktking> trying to open a .tar.gz file from cmd line, can anyone help?
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> how many other rules in you iptables ?
[12:51] <indus> novato_br, hello
[12:51] <indus> novato_br, hmm
[12:51] <novato_br> but how can I install if my notebook hasn't internet?
[12:51] <indus> novato_br, wait 1 sec iam testing
[12:51] <novato_br> ok
[12:51] <joshua1> Slart: did you get that?
[12:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> Anyone need help?
[12:52] <joshua1> yeah hey spaceghost! haha
[12:52] <indus> fafk
[12:52] <indus> lfda
[12:52] <Slart> riktking: man tar   will get you a help page   I think tar can do the gzip stuff for you as well.. you don't have to do it in two steps
[12:52] <Nicador_fl> 2 rules.
[12:52] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/block-spamming-scanning-with-iptables.html will this be helpful ?
[12:52] <student> Dr_Willis: ya...thats true.
[12:52] <aleanne82> novato_br: why not just install windows xp?
[12:52] <Sacho> Hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 9.04. There is an option under System-Preferences-Keyboard called "Mouse keys", which I keep turning off, but at arbitrary points of time, it seems to turn itself back on. What could be causing this?
[12:52] <SpaceGhostC2C> Anyone at all?
[12:52] <Slart> joshua1: I didn't see a question.. what about this program?
[12:52] <novato_br> aleanne82, more respect
[12:52] <SolarisBoy> tar xjvf <filename.tar.bz2> <directory>
[12:53] <student> Dr_Willis: but i always have thought why ubuntu is this much ugly??
[12:53] <SolarisBoy> with or without the v option would work Slart
[12:53] <BigMack83> is there a reason why in movie player (totem) you cant seek to a specific spot in time? when i do is auto sets itself to a time before what i wanted and have to watch all of it to get there.
[12:53] <Slart> Sacho: there is a keyboard shortcut to start it.. something like Ctrl+Alt+Numlock .. I'm not sure
[12:53] <ScoobyDoo> I've made a Kommander dialog, How'd I now compile it into a executable file?
[12:53] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: checking
[12:53] <joshua1> Slart: alright, i found it here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486359 i think it's called avatar factory.
[12:53] <quietone> SpaceGhostC2C: well, can you help me send mail on my home network?
[12:53] <joshua1> have you ever heard of it?
[12:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> student: you can change the appearance rather easily.
[12:53] <novato_br> and today ubutun isn't different of windows a lot
[12:53] <Slart> SolarisBoy: thanks.. riktking, did you see what SolarisBoy said?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> student:  it takes all of 20 sec to change a theme..    THe Ubuntu Makers have thir ubuntu look. same as other disrtos try to make their own look.. if yiou dont like it change it
[12:53] <arbol> Slart: but i want to manage vhosts as well
[12:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> quietone: sure. Tell me how you want it set up.
[12:53] <Sacho> Slart: where could I find it?
[12:54] <aleanne82> novato_br: you shouldn't use Linux if you have no internet
[12:54] <indus> novato_br, not working in xchat Ç)
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> no that blocks spammers which are pulled from an online list
[12:54] <indus> Ç)kfafaKadla
[12:54] <indus> Ç
[12:54] <indus> works
[12:54] <arbol> Slart: i want a thing like rapache, but that can manage dns, ftp and mysql
[12:54] <student> Thank u all
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> those are specifically attacks to mail server
[12:54] <Slart> arbol: some of these management guis use plugins.. it's possible you can add support for configuring vhosts as well
[12:54] <indus> novato_br, see that C is brazil
[12:54] <stealinx> hello
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> you run mail on port 1422?
[12:54] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: Yes. But i can make my own list :)
[12:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> aleanne82: don't say that. I would say, you need some sort of internet connection if you're new.
[12:54] <Slart> arbol: never used rapache
[12:54] <ScoobyDoo> I've made a Kommander dialogue, How'd I now compile it into a executable file?
[12:54] <NitzchONot> May i as a question related to Ubuntu 9.10 installation ? Is it importan to install "boot loader" if i dont wish to add more OSs to my system ?
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: YOU ARE RIGHT =)
[12:54] <stealinx> is there a 'net install' for ubuntu server ?
[12:54] <tobiasz> indus any hint what repository I need to add for enlightment?
[12:54] <novato_br> indus, I'm on desktop
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> student:  use that gnome-artng tool and you can install 100's of themes very quickly
[12:54] <joshua1> has anybody had experience with an app called avatar factory??
[12:55] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: yes you could use that script as a baseline to construct something better suited for your conditions
[12:55] <indus> ]
[12:55] <quietone> SpaceGhostC2C: what I want to be able to do is send mail to/from our machines but not have it go past the router to the outside world. It is mostly to forward emails to each other.
[12:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> NitzchONot: you need the boot loader either way. Install it. It's required.
[12:55] <SolarisBoy> like a file /tmp/bad_ips
[12:55] <Nicador_fl> :D And add to the banlist as they come.
[12:55] <Nicador_fl> droplist*
[12:55] <tobiasz> indus k nvm
[12:55] <SolarisBoy> yessir
[12:55] <indus> novato_br, can you tell me how brazilian is different from english
[12:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> quietone: do you know how to set up a mail server?
[12:55] <indus> i dont know
[12:55] <novato_br> indus, I'm sorry, it is my fault, I can't explaing to you clearly
[12:55] <student> Dr_Willis: ok thank you:)
[12:56] <indus> novato_br, no problem, try it, i will understand
[12:56] <SolarisBoy> Nicador_fl: be careful and test it and remember iptables -F is a friend
[12:56]  * joshua1 brb
[12:56] <stealinx> is there a 'net install' for ubuntu server ?
[12:56] <novato_br> I see that you don't understand me yet
[12:56] <aleanne82> indus: it has accent keys and some punctuation is on different keys
[12:56] <NitzchONot> SpaceGhostCSC, may i talk you in prv for a moment plz ? :)
[12:56] <novato_br> indus, let's start from begin
[12:56] <indus> novato_br, now i have selected brazil keyboard, but  i see all enlkgish excpet look Ç
[12:56] <indus> Ç
[12:56] <indus> novato_br, Ç
[12:56] <maxjezy> !ping
[12:56] <quietone> SpaceGhostC2C: No experience at doing that.
[12:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> NitzchONot: sure. Feel free to PM me.
[12:56] <indus> novato_br, see : ~~~ÇÇÇ^^^^
[12:56] <novato_br> indus, I have two keyboard's layouts :  USA and Brazilian
[12:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> quietone: so, send me a pm and I'll help you out.
[12:56] <stealinx> hello all
[12:56] <Justin_``> Is there a way I can get openssh to run without needing to be logged on Ubuntu?
[12:56] <indus> novato_br, press alt to see more options
[12:57] <stealinx> how are you guys doing?
[12:57]  * stealinx got a simple q
[12:57] <stealinx> is there a 'net install' for ubuntu server ?
[12:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``: yes it should run without you being logged in.
[12:57] <quietone> SpaceGhostC2C: Ok but I don't know how to do that either - still new to chat.
[12:57] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: add it to startup programs
[12:57] <Justin_``> Ah ok
[12:57] <indus> stealinx, good ask
[12:57] <Slart> joshua1: here are the files at least http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Avatar_Factory
[12:57] <Justin_``> Also, Is there a way to make the IP, static so it wont change?
[12:57] <stealinx> indus: is there?
[12:57] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: yes
[12:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``: are you sure you have the openssh-server running?
[12:57] <novato_br> indus, I have two keyboard's layouts: USA and Brazilian
[12:57] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: what version ubuntu?
[12:57] <indus> novato_br, ok and:
[12:58] <novato_br> when I chose Brazilian keyboard settings
[12:58] <Justin_``> 9.10 desktop
[12:58] <NitzchONot> Nevermind Spaceghost, no need to bother u with stupid questions, thanks tho :D
[12:58] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: SpaceGhostC2C is correct as well be sure the package is installed even
[12:58] <Slart> joshua1: try downloading the deb file.. you should be able to just double click on it to install it.. how to run it and configure it you'll have to find out for yourself.. perhaps it comes with a man page
[12:58] <indus> : mm no question mark with brazil keyboard
[12:58] <novato_br> and after I restart the notebook
[12:58] <Justin_``> Yes. I was connected via putty, then done
[12:58] <Justin_``> reboot 1
[12:58] <SolarisBoy> k
[12:58] <novato_br> the settings isn't keeping
[12:58] <indus> novato_br, aah on restart ok
[12:58] <aleanne82> ãõç
[12:58] <SeriousBlack> Good evening!...I'm having OCS Inventory on Ubuntu. Anyone has an idea how to use Mysqldump to backup the database please?
[12:58] <novato_br> it change to USA layout keyboard
[12:58] <SolarisBoy> Justin_``: add to startup 2. use static addressing and turn off the dhcp
[12:58] <ScoobyDoo> I've made a Kommander dialogue, How'd I now compile it into a executable file?
[12:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> NitzchONot: I said you could PM me..
[12:58] <indus> novato_br, you havent selected it as default in preferences in language support
[12:59] <Justin_``> How do I use static  addresing?
[12:59] <indus> ಜೋ್ೋ್ಡೋ
[12:59] <indus> ಓಅಖಖಶಖಥಢಠಱಳಙಘಝಥ
[12:59] <novato_br> I don't make anything I just restart and it change alone
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !ar
[12:59] <SolarisBoy> 1. use interfaces and not network manager (and on my version of ubuntu i had to remove dhcp-client)
[12:59] <novato_br> hummm, indus
[12:59] <SolarisBoy> 2.  If you use netmanager set address to static there
[12:59] <aleanne82> novato_br: can you switch to brasilian layout pressing alt+shift or ctrl+shift:
[12:59] <M0D-1T> hey is it safe for my files to upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 to the 9.10 version with the upgrade manager???? help me please i have a hard disk with important material i don't want to be wasted:)
[13:00] <uncmar> I see. No one cares, no one knows, or no one has even noticed my question.  I'll leave now.
[13:00] <Justin_``> Ok
[13:00] <indus> novato_br, go to system>admin>language support  and set default as brazil
[13:00] <indus> under layouts
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> I thought network manager let you set a atatic ip - but my router has settings to rember what machines and give them the same ip.
[13:00] <SolarisBoy> for interfaces file a simple google search will give you much details
[13:00] <novato_br> aleanne82, yeah, but when I change the layout isn't persistent settings
[13:00] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: lucky my netgear is not so advanced
[13:00] <novato_br> yeah, indus
[13:00] <novato_br> I've tried that
[13:00] <novato_br> but it isn't working
[13:00] <Slart> M0D-1T: as far as I know even a failed upgrade won't kill your files... but backups should always be made.. it's still computers and software we're dealing with.. neither is perfect
[13:00] <Justin_``> Ok so I went into 'Startup applications', I can't find OpenSSH there, Do I click "new" and add it?
[13:01] <novato_br> I went system => admin => language support and set default as brazil
[13:01] <novato_br> but it didn't work
[13:01] <novato_br> it keeping going to change layout to usa alone
[13:01] <SolarisBoy> that or update-rc.d openssh-server defaults
[13:01] <indus> novato_br, sorry system >preferences>keyboard layout
[13:01] <novato_br> I made that too, indus
[13:01] <M0D-1T> Slart: right
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  mine is so advanced it tells me of bios updates.. that.. cant be found at the belkin web site. :0
[13:01] <ScoobyDoo> I made a Kommander dialogue, Is it possible to convert it to a binary executable?
[13:01] <indus> novato_br, aah sorry then i dont know
[13:01] <SolarisBoy> or whatever they call openssh under /init.d/
[13:01] <indus> novato_br, maybe file a bug?
[13:01] <novato_br> and It keeps going to change settings alone
[13:02] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: nice =)
[13:02] <indus> novato_br, wait i restart and see
[13:02] <ravic> digits-admin.data.yahoo.com
[13:02] <indus> brb
[13:02] <novato_br> ok
[13:02] <Justin_``> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/openssh-server: file does not exist
[13:02] <SolarisBoy>  or whatever they call openssh under /init.d/
[13:02] <mikeconcepts> what is needed in xchat beyond the default settings to protect against criminals?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Hmm update-rc.d dont work with Upstart under 9.10 I thouight,
[13:02] <SolarisBoy> oops its just ssh
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> if ssh is handkled by upstart that is..
[13:03] <garymc> Anyone wanna giv me some one on one advice on getting my Dovecot-postfix basic mail server up and running?
[13:03] <SolarisBoy> oopsy im on 8.10
[13:03] <Halabund> Some program flooded the notification system, and now it just keeps going and going, even after the guilty program was closed, and since it doesn't seem to be possible to interact with them, I can't stop it.  Any advice (other than logging out)?
[13:03] <SolarisBoy> so that works fine for me
[13:03] <ScoobyDoo> I made a Kommander dialogue, Is it possible to convert it to a binary executable?
[13:03] <Slart> mikeconcepts: common sense?  that should do it
[13:03] <Justin_``> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ssh-server: file does not exist
[13:03] <SolarisBoy> i believe its just ssh Justin
[13:03] <SolarisBoy> no -server
[13:03] <aleanne82> novato_br: do you have latest updates?
[13:04] <Slart> mikeconcepts: oh.. and keeping your software up to date
[13:04] <joshua1> anyone familiar with the avatar factory app?
[13:04] <SolarisBoy> yep just ssh
[13:04] <SolarisBoy> [0504][rainofkayos@rain] src $ sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults System startup links for /etc/init.d/ssh already exist.
[13:04] <novato_br> how?
[13:04] <novato_br> I have no internet to notebook
[13:04] <mikeconcepts> Slart: what about mode +x and PM?
[13:04] <novato_br> Internet doesn't work on notebook
[13:04] <joshua1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486359
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> joshua1:  is it a linux app? ubuntu app? or what exactly?
[13:05] <Justin_```> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ssh-server: file does not exist
[13:05] <Justin_```> In /etc/ssh/ there isnt a ssh-server file
[13:05] <SolarisBoy> huh?
[13:05] <joshua1> well it's for nautilus
[13:05] <SolarisBoy> never was...
[13:05] <joshua1> sooo
[13:05] <ScoobyDoo> I made a Kommander dialogue, Is it possible to convert it to a binary executable?
[13:05] <Slart> mikeconcepts: those are just preferences.. neither will protect you in any way
[13:05] <SolarisBoy> ssd_config or ssh_config i believe should be the configs for openssh
[13:05] <mikeconcepts> Slart: and not auto accepting files?
[13:05] <SolarisBoy> s/ssd/sshd/
[13:05] <Slart> mikeconcepts: the default settings don't autoaccept files
[13:06] <Justin_```> So what would be the command
[13:06] <SolarisBoy> command for?
[13:06] <joshua1> dr_willis: it's for nautilus i believe, and also says something about thunar but i'm not familiar with that.
[13:06] <Justin_```> I want to get SSH server to run when the computer loads up
[13:06] <garymc> i really need help here with this email server stuff
[13:06] <mikeconcepts> Slart: hence the common sense statement
[13:06] <Justin_```> like at the login screen where I type my password
[13:06] <novato_br> aleanne82, I've tried to make LAN with notebook and my desktop, but Ubuntu ( from notebook ) doesn't recognize windows 7 system ( from Desktop )
[13:06] <SolarisBoy> 'sudo update-rc.d openssh-server defaults'
[13:06] <Slart> mikeconcepts: and even if you were to enable that it's not dangerous until someone actually runs those files.. you'll have to educate your users about those kinds of things
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> joshua1:  never seen/heard  of it - not in the package manager.. if you are having some problem with it - it may be best to state the actual problem .
[13:06] <joshua1> i'm still pretty fresh with ubuntu too so i'm not sure if nautilus is a gnome thing or what.
[13:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``you want a graphical login?
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> if that doesn't work likely due to your higher vesrsion than me
[13:07] <joshua1> well i haven't even installed it yet - was just wondering if anyone had used it/had problems with it or not.
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> for gui use vino-server which (was) enabled by default afaik
[13:07] <joshua1> because it looks pretty sharp. as far as having the folders show thumbnails of whatever is inside.
[13:07] <Justin_```> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/openssh-server: file does not exist
[13:07] <Slart> mikeconcepts: I would worry more about mail and weird im-clients than IRC
[13:08] <novato_br> I can't solve the ubuntu problems, while I'm solving one shows another.
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> why in the world would it be looking for openssh-server?
[13:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``'try this sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[13:08] <Justin_```> You told me to?
[13:08] <novato_br> the ubuntu 6.10 wasn't like that
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> no i didnt
[13:08] <Justin_```>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                             [ OK ]
[13:08] <joshua1> blahhhh i'm out. going to just keep googling it i guess.
[13:08] <joshua1> taters.
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> i told you to do this 'sudo update-rc.d openssh-server defaults'
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> oopssudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[13:09] <Ceballos> holas
[13:09] <SolarisBoy> remove the oops and thats the command i meant
[13:09] <SolarisBoy> paste fail =)
[13:09] <Ceballos> alguien habla español? :S
[13:09] <bolas> no
[13:09] <Slart> mikeconcepts: !es | Ceballos
[13:09] <Slart> oops..
[13:09] <Slart> !es | Ceballos
[13:09] <bolas> bolas chinas
[13:09] <Justin_```> So if I type reboot 1, let the Ubuntu restart, then I should be able to remote-ssh it without needing ot logon the auctal computer
[13:09] <mikeconcepts> Slart: that's good to know! Thanks!
[13:10] <bolas> mola
[13:10] <Ceballos> ok perfect
[13:10] <Slart> mikeconcepts: you're welcome
[13:10] <bolas> rober
[13:10] <Slart> bolas: ?
[13:10] <SolarisBoy> not unless the link is present in /etc/rc*
[13:10] <SolarisBoy> which i believe it isn't and starting ssh doesnt do it
[13:10] <SolarisBoy> so sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Justin_```:  somthing is odd.. every time i have ever installed the ssh server - it always adds itself to startup at boot time
[13:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: try putting his name before the messages.
[13:11] <SolarisBoy> oh mine didn't
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Justin_```:  logging in to the machine shouldent be 'starting' ssh in any case
[13:11] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: thank you for your inputs
[13:11] <fredensborg> something seems wrong with the search function on http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ . See http://imagebin.org/82381
[13:11] <Justin_```> It was befor
[13:11] <SolarisBoy> lol
[13:11] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[13:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: just trying to help you help him.
[13:12] <Justin_```> Ok Ubuntu is loading, ill try to putty connect it
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: indeed =)
[13:12] <Justin_```> Network error: timeout
[13:13] <Justin_```> Ubuntu is on the login screen with my username..
[13:13] <levene> how can i get a list of completed print jobs from the command line?
[13:13] <Justin_```> If I click my username and login with my password, I am able to connect via putty
[13:13] <SolarisBoy> huh?
[13:13] <Slart> fredensborg: is that wrong in some way? what is it supposed to do?
[13:13] <dude_> hi
[13:13] <Justin_```> SolarisBoy, Talk private message?
[13:13] <SolarisBoy> Justin_```: just about to call it a night (morning 3 hours before work) =)
[13:14] <sandro_> ciao
[13:14] <Justin_```> Ah ok
[13:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_```: so, ssh server doesn't start until you log in?
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> thats odd
[13:14] <Justin_```> SpaceGhostC2C, Correct
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> wait... is this in your profile or something?
[13:14] <Justin_```> I installed the package on my account (justin)
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Justin_```:  huh? what do you mean by installed the package on my account?
[13:15] <SolarisBoy> thats a new one..
[13:15] <levene> found it, lpstat -W completed
[13:15]  * Dr_Willis thinks theres some deeper.... issues.information missing
[13:15] <Justin_```> Ok ill start again...
[13:15] <SolarisBoy> ssh can only be installed by root as it runs on 22 by default
[13:15] <fredensborg> Slart: Well, it's supposed to show hits from the specified domain, isn't it?
[13:15] <SolarisBoy> are you using  a hosting service?
[13:15] <fredensborg> Slart: It's supposed to be a custom search
[13:15] <Justin_```> Im using desktop version? ??
[13:15] <SolarisBoy> Justin_```: whos machine is this?
[13:15] <Slart> fredensborg: I'm not entirely sure about that.. it might just be a google "skin"
[13:15] <Justin_```> Mine
[13:15] <Justin_```> Its in my room
[13:16] <Justin_```> Im making it a semi-dedicated
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> afaik thats hosting talk....
[13:16] <fredensborg> Slart: Oh well..
[13:16] <airstrike> i've added a line to my /etc/hosts file. how can i refresh that so it takes effect immediately?
[13:16] <BlessJah> how to record sound playing in speakers using alsa?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> airstrike:  it always takes affedt immediatly for me.
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> airstrike: it just does
[13:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``` just wondering, did it work normally at all? Meaning did it start ssh before you logged in before?
[13:17] <airstrike> ok :))
[13:17] <indus> novato_br, HI
[13:17] <indus> novato_br, ^~~ç
[13:17] <Justin_```> SpaceGhostC2C, Ive alwasys been logged on when I am able to connect to the ssh
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> i think hes starting it in his profile somehow
[13:17] <Slart> fredensborg: if you want themes for Gnome I would suggest  www.gnome-look.org
[13:17] <novato_br> I see your works properly, indus
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Justin_```:  you do relize that its possible ssh is starting after you are logging in..  because the services start up some times slower then the rest of the 'login' stuff..
[13:17] <indus> novato_br, yeah doesnt start with default i think
[13:17] <novato_br> but my it doesn't
[13:17] <indus> novato_br, no went to another language
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> hmm whats your connection type Justin_``` ?
[13:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``` try this. sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  i dont even see how thats possible.  since ssh server needs to run as root.
[13:18] <indus> ಲೋಸೋ
[13:18] <Justin_```> My connection type...?
[13:18] <novato_br> yeah, indus ! You said: everything => <indus> novato_br, yeah doesnt start with default i think
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: ur right... im fishing again =)
[13:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: it doesn't need root. I can run ssh on a higher port as a seperate user.
[13:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> Justin_``` may I pm you?
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> thats true as well
[13:18] <novato_br> my ubuntu doen't start with default settings
[13:18] <indus> novato_br, really?
[13:18] <Justin_```> Sure
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  im betting hes just noticeing services starting slower.
[13:19] <indus> novato_br, thats what i said ?:)
 novato_br, yeah doesnt start with default i think
[13:19] <indus> çç~~~ç
[13:19] <novato_br> your does work
[13:19] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: yea .. you know what,, why not put a recursive ping on the box while its booting up
[13:19] <indus> novato_br, some bug i think, actually it started with brazil then changed
[13:19] <trijntje> hi all. How can I stop xp from being pushed down in the grub menu by subsequent newer kernel versions?
[13:19] <SolarisBoy> see when you get the reply back...
[13:19] <novato_br> here it doesn't
[13:19] <indus> novato_br, you cant type in brazil:
[13:19] <indus> ;::?
[13:20] <novato_br> yeah, indus
[13:20] <SolarisBoy> ssh wont start if the box isn't pingable so that would in general allow you to see whats the hold up if any
[13:20] <novato_br> because It start with USA settings
[13:20] <SolarisBoy> and not guestimate
[13:20] <indus> novato_br,  i think maybe cos ofthe language packs
[13:20] <novato_br> yeah, indus
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  in grub1 (befor 9.10) you could edit the menu.lst and put it at the top.. not sure about grub2
[13:20] <novato_br> Can I put CD live on repository, indus ?
[13:20] <indus> novato_br, yes
[13:20]  * SolarisBoy facepalm
[13:20] <novato_br> so I can install the language packet
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  i wonder if hes on wired or wireless networking...
[13:21] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: ok, ill see if that still works in grub 2, thanks
[13:21] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: thats why i asked his connection type
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  it wont work in grub2
[13:21] <ericson> I'm looking for some help on getting legal DVD's to play, which I can't seem to get working with my current libdvdread4. I'm running 9.10 64bit
[13:21] <BlessJah> i want to record speakers output
[13:21] <indus> novato_br, why u want live cd?
[13:21] <SolarisBoy> wireless can get choppy like so
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  ive seen some guides on tweaking grub2. but ive never noticed that tweak
[13:21] <novato_br> indus, how can I CD live on repository to install the brazilian language packet?
[13:21] <aleanne82> novato_br: it could be bug in gnome
[13:21] <zvacet> grub2 | trijntje
[13:21] <novato_br> maybe, aleanne82
[13:21] <indus> novato_br,i think you dont need to install anything
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  its possible you could rename/number the files in /etc/grub.d to reorder them
[13:21] <zvacet> !grub2 | trijntje
[13:22] <novato_br> I can't change it
[13:22] <novato_br> it said: missing language packet
[13:22] <novato_br> I need to install them
[13:22] <indus> novato_br, aaah
[13:22] <aleanne82> novato_br: but you could just install a keyboard layout indicator and swith them by hotkey, if you'll uncheck 'separate layout for each window', it will persist
[13:22] <guest_007> How to disable updatedb.mlocate ? I don't ever use locate but it eat my IO every day
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  change 30_os-prober to be like  08_os-prober
[13:22] <indus> novato_br, you can just put live cd in tray, add cd as repo
[13:22] <indus> novato_br, maybe try that
[13:22] <indus> novato_br, but i think some language packs are installed default
[13:22] <novato_br> I don't know where repository settings
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> guest_007:  its ran by a cronjob in /etc/rcon.daily
[13:23] <Slart> BlessJah: not sure if that's possible.. some audio cards have an input named "What-u-hear" .. or at least my creative card has that.. you could perhaps do something tricky with dmix but it won't be an easy process
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> guest_007:  its ran by a cronjob in /etc/cron.daily
[13:23] <guest_007> Dr_Willis: Is there any policy value? I did not want to edit cron.daily directly
[13:23] <zvacet> novato_br:  in system>admin>software sources check Cd as repository and reload
[13:23] <ericson> is the current version of libdvd 4.1.3?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> guest_007:  no idea. I use locate.. so i want to keep it, :)
[13:24] <indus> novato_br, in preferences>keyboard> layouts whatdo u see
[13:24] <novato_br> ok
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> guest_007:  move the file somewhere.. perhaps.. or make it not executable..
[13:24] <Pici> guest_007: You can just chmod -x /etc/cron.daily/mlocate
[13:24] <guest_007> Dr_Willis: made it non exec
[13:24] <novato_br> if it weren't CD if were USB stick, how can I do?
[13:24] <guest_007> Thanks
[13:24] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: can I just assign any header to the windows entry in grub.cfg?
[13:24] <indus> novato_br, first tell me what you see in kayouts
[13:24] <indus> layouts
[13:24] <novato_br> ok
[13:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> indus: kayouts sounds like a funny way to say coyotes :)
[13:25] <indus> SpaceGhostC2C, yea hehe
[13:25] <SolarisBoy> lol i thought it was some fancy kde thing or something =)
[13:25] <indus> SpaceGhostC2C, you can use that word from now on
[13:25] <novato_br> I see two layouts, in sequence, : brazil  USA
[13:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> indus: will do sir.
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  those scripts get ran in order.. by changing the #'s you cahnge the order the stuff gets added to the grub configs.
[13:26] <indus> novato_br, is brazil select as default? also click on 'apply system wide'
[13:26] <zvacet> novato_br:  check brazil as default
[13:26] <novato_br> yeah, Indus, but in gnome applet keyboard indicator is USA
[13:26] <novato_br> and it's working USA layout now
[13:26] <indus> novato_br, yah thats ok, click on it
[13:26] <novato_br> I did
[13:27] <indus> novato_br, and it will say bra
[13:27] <DemoOn> can someone help me? When im running x with X -configure, my screen goes black
[13:27] <bottiger> Is there a good filesystem both linux and mac can use?
[13:27] <indus> Bra
[13:27] <novato_br> ahhh, it is wierd, you won't belive, indus
[13:27] <coz_> anyone use the  Backport repository?  if so any weird things occurr :)
[13:27] <indus> no offence ladies, iam talking about teh keyboard shortcut
[13:28] <novato_br> I changed it, but on the applet it has shown BRA and after it show USA
[13:28] <novato_br> and it is shown USA
[13:28] <indus> novato_br, ok click again
[13:28] <novato_br> on applet
[13:28] <indus> novato_br, slow
[13:28] <indus> novato_br, its sensitive
[13:29] <novato_br> ok
[13:29] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: grub.cfg says not to edit the file?
[13:29] <Nicador_fl> Is there anyway to count the duplicates in a txt file ?
[13:29] <indus> novato_br, ok best option now is, from preferences , delete brazil and then restart system, then add it again
[13:29] <novato_br> BRA on applet, but I clicked on applet gnome keyboard indicator
[13:29] <aleanne82> novato_br: there's an open bug with suddently disappering layouts
[13:29] <novato_br> yeah, aleanne82
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  i told you to change /etc/grub.d   for grub2
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:   as it says you DONT edit grub.cfg
[13:30] <twoface> Hi. Ubuntu Server 8.04 complaints about language-pack-en which depends on language-pack-en-base, which is not the correct version. Is this a known issue, and how do i circumvent it?
[13:30] <novato_br> indus, I did it
[13:30] <ericson> Not to be impatient, but does anyone know much about working with the libdvdcss stuff?
[13:30] <novato_br> I am restarting it
[13:30] <indus> okokok
[13:30] <Nicador_fl> SolarisBoy: I made the blacklist file. And injected it in the iptables. Seems like no output at the netstat comand. But the hub isn't working.....
[13:30] <indus> oh boy,another language problem
[13:31] <ericson> I just don't want internet to go down on me, I'm in Afghanistan and the internet sucks here.
[13:31] <trijntje> Dr_Willis: I didnt see you said grub.d, sorry. Thanks for your help
[13:31] <bazhang> ericson, medibuntu.org has libdvdcss2
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | trijntje
[13:31] <indus> grub2 is messy
[13:32] <ericson> bazhang, thanks, I'll check it out
[13:32] <indus> hate it
[13:32] <_Paul_> I haven't as yet used it.. figured what I have works - why  break it
[13:32] <indus> novato_br, any luck:
[13:32] <indus> ?
[13:33] <ericson> bazhang, have you heard of people complaining about DVD's not playing on 9.10 with all the updates?
[13:33] <bazhang> ericson, not really
[13:33] <indus> ericson, TRY vlc player
[13:33] <indus> ericson, plays dvd region free
[13:33] <indus> ericson, ah bad internet
[13:33] <ericson> bazhang, I got VLC, mplayer, and the others
[13:34] <novato_br> just a second, indus
[13:34] <stefy> hello! i'm needing help with a potentially damaged disk: the S.M.A.R.T. extended test (id=5) notifies a lot of bad sectors, but trying a bad sectors scan with HDD Regenerator 1.71 from http://www.dposoft.net/ doesn't find any bad sector. should it be a smartd malfunctioning or some other problem? is there a way to recover my hard drive? thank you for your attention.
[13:34] <ericson> I ment indus
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> stefy:  i find that warning from the smart tools to be a little.. err.. over protective.
[13:35] <devian> my xchat network list is gone
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> stefy:  you may want to be getting a new hd some time soon just in case.. and of course have backups
[13:35] <ericson> I've been having problems with this laptop ever sense I dropped 9.10 on it
[13:35] <_Paul_> stefy, you could use dd to recover that disk - depening on the size of it it could take some time to back up 'man dd'
[13:35] <maxjezy> get i iPad
[13:35]  * Dr_Willis wants a uPad
[13:35] <indus> ericson, in vlc you will get some messagees wwhen you play a cd. check
[13:35] <ericson> Granted, its not a laptop I wanted to buy, but I broke my other, and laptops are kinda few and far between.... This hunk of junk is sporting an ATI gfx card
[13:36] <ericson> alright, give me one min.
[13:36]  * maxjezy want a pad made out of gold and money
[13:36] <indus> make your own gold and money
[13:36] <novato_br> indus, I've removed and installed it now it is restarting
[13:36] <indus> ok
[13:36] <novato_br> let's see if it gonna work
[13:36] <maxjezy> anyone got a samsung 140?
[13:36]  * indus mumbles to someone
[13:36] <novato_br> yeahhhhh, indus
[13:37] <indus> yeahhhhhhhhhh
[13:37] <novato_br> you're awesome
[13:37] <novato_br> thank you thank you, man
[13:37] <rethus> someone here using wacom grafic tablet bamboo pen&touch? is there a config gui for graphic-tablets?
[13:37] <user518> hello
[13:37] <indus> yes people tell me that
[13:37] <stefy> Dr_Willis: ok, but my pc is quite new, it's less than 1 year old, do you think it's the time to change the hd?
[13:37] <novato_br> aehuaehuae, indus
[13:37] <indus> :D
[13:37] <twoface> Hi. Ubuntu Server 8.04 complaints about language-pack-en which depends on language-pack-en-base, which is not the correct version. Is this a known issue, and how do i circumvent it?
[13:37] <ericson> indus, also my eject button on my cd rom doesn't work, I have to do a right click and eject from the file to make it open...
[13:37] <novato_br> great, indus
[13:37] <user518> i have a slight problem with my sound in ubuntu
[13:37] <coz_> nevermind
[13:38] <Leoneof`> hi, my LAN eth0 is can't ping but when i write ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 and eth0 will be able to ping, why?
[13:38] <indus> ericson, thats a hardware problem , no can help, but if u have a safety pin, put it in the tiny hole on the cd cover and it will pop out
[13:38] <indus> ericson, cdrom drive i mean
[13:38] <user518> whenever sound is not in use in my ubuntu 9.10 the sound output gets disableds
[13:38] <indus> novato_br, typwe soem in brazilian i want to se
[13:38] <indus> e
[13:38] <jrib> twoface: run « sudo aptitude update » and try again
[13:39] <ericson> indus, no it will open with the file, but not by pressing the button. And now VLC is opening it, however, mplayer will not
[13:39] <indus> ericson, what button
[13:39] <ericson> Thats ok, I guess I'll just rock out with VLC
[13:39] <novato_br> you don't see, indus because the notebook isn't connected to internet
[13:39] <indus> ericson, could you please restatethe question
[13:39] <twoface> jrib: already did that
[13:39] <novato_br> but it does work properly
[13:39] <jrib> twoface: pastebin your command and the full output
[13:39] <nathan7> Leoneof`: ARe you using NetworkManager?
[13:39] <indus> novato_br, aah ok but brazilian sounds like english?
[13:39] <user518> and this is a problem for me because my speakers are not grounded
[13:40] <Leoneof`> indus: no, i removed network-manager, i do use only /etc/network/interfaces
[13:40] <ericson> indus, the button on the physical cdrom drive will not open the drive. However, the mounted file, by right clicking on it, and slecting eject, it will open.
[13:40] <novato_br> ahhh, or do you want to know how portuguese is?
[13:40] <indus> ericson, yes its a cdrom button issue
[13:40] <indus> ericson, cant do much about that
[13:40] <aleanne82> dpkg-deb: control directory has invalid mode 777 (should be >=0755 and <=0775) <- WTF
[13:40] <ericson> indus, I don't think it is, it will open in windows via button
[13:40] <twoface> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m9d93016 - running apt-get -f install wants me to remove the two packages
[13:41] <indus> ericson, hmm
[13:41] <user518> does anyone know how to fix my problem in ubuntu ?
[13:41] <ericson> indus, this is also a new PC. Less than two weeks old
[13:41] <Leoneof`> indus: like this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e68f718 , but everytime i must write "ifdown eth0, ifup eth0"
[13:41] <ericson> I was guessing thats why I was having all these problems with linux
[13:41] <indus> Leoneof`, you are talking to wrong guy :)
[13:41] <cliebow> anyone have a good iptables rule for transparent proxy?
[13:42] <Leoneof`> oh noooo, lol
[13:42] <indus> ericson, then its cos the program is still reading from drive
[13:42] <Leoneof`> indus: thanks :P
[13:42] <SolarisBoy> hehehehe
[13:42] <jrib> twoface: pastebin « apt-cache policy language-pack-en language-pack-en-base » and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list*
[13:42] <_Paul_> ericson, my laptop does the same thing with dvdrom drive sometimes when the device is mounted or in use - I either have to unmount/eject it with a right click or type eject in a terminal window
[13:42] <grobda24> Can anyone tell me where the portaudio PPA is that allows portaudio with Jack in Karmic ?
[13:42] <Leoneof`> nathan7: no, i removed network-manager, i do use only /etc/network/interfaces
[13:42] <indus> Leoneof`, i think yo u werr speaking to nathan7
[13:42] <Leoneof`> nathan7: like this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1e68f718 , but everytime i must write "ifdown eth0, ifup eth0"
[13:42] <indus> ah hehe
[13:42] <novato_br> indus, could you give some help in another question?
[13:42] <Leoneof`> indus: yes lol
[13:43] <indus> novato_br, sure
[13:43] <indus> novato_br, i get paid for it
[13:43] <ericson> _Paul_, are you rocking out 9.10? or a different version? Because on my other laptop with 9.04 it does work.
[13:43] <rockman> What?
[13:43] <novato_br> unfortunately not
[13:43] <user518> hello, i need help with my sound in ubuntu...
[13:43] <novato_br> :(
[13:43] <rockman> I think ubuntu 9.10 is not good.
[13:43] <ericson> _Paul_, I was thinking that this new 9.10 just has some bugs to get worked out
[13:43] <indus> novato_br, ? i said i do
[13:43] <_Paul_> ericson, I'm using 9.10 atm
[13:43] <indus> novato_br, anyways what is the problem
[13:43] <twoface> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m713e2686
[13:43] <novato_br> sorry I misunderstood
[13:44] <novato_br> I think you ask for money
[13:44] <indus> novato_br, no lol
[13:44] <twoface> jrib: as far as i can see on packages.ubuntu.com, there is no such language-pack-en-base version
[13:44] <novato_br> ok
[13:44] <indus> novato_br, joke hea
[13:44] <novato_br> ok
[13:44] <indus> novato_br, ask ask
[13:44] <novato_br> indus, how to make LAN with win 7 and ubuntu 9.10?
[13:44] <jakethepython> does anyone know how to get tunneling to work in the VPN client?
[13:44] <ericson> _Paul_, yeah, I'm not too sure if I like this 9.10 yet, I'm thinking I should have just gone with 8.04
[13:44] <Leoneof`> no help? :(
[13:45] <ericson> I would have put in 9.04, but I wanted 64bit on this PC
[13:45] <rockman> Wow...
[13:45] <_Paul_> ericson, works fine here.. I guess I'm just used to it now though
[13:45] <indus> novato_br, how to make lan
[13:45] <jrib> twoface: yes, you're right.  Have you checked bugs.ubuntu.com for an open bug?
[13:46] <novato_br> yeah
[13:46] <recmajkemi> ubuntu 9.10 /.17 im having random logouts whats up with that?
[13:46] <novato_br> or just connect two computer in networking
[13:46] <ericson> _Paul_, Yeah, I'm just gettin things smoothed out now, its been a fight all along the way on this PC, but my guess is its just newer hardware, and so it will take a bit to get it working well
[13:46] <aleanne82> ffs it means i cannot package a kernel on NTFS??
[13:46] <indus> novato_br, just use a lan cable and it will connect
[13:46] <novato_br> indus, I want to connect win 7 (server) with ubuntu 9.10 (client)
[13:46] <indus> novato_br, aah oops
[13:46] <novato_br> no, it doesn't work, indus
[13:46] <indus> novato_br, :D
[13:46] <_Paul_> ericson, ahh you using 64bit version? I'm just using 32bit version.. haven't messed with any 64bit version of a linux distro since I used slackware (was a good few years ago but from what I remember it was messy)
[13:46] <novato_br> I've lan cable
[13:47] <novato_br> I connected notebook with my desktop
[13:47] <novato_br> is it necessary to make some addicional settings?
[13:47] <patdk-wk> how can I get network manager to manage my vpn connections, it seems to be ignoring them
[13:47] <novato_br> which are they?
[13:47] <twoface> jrib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-es/+bug/316174 seems to be the same, but i cant see if anything is being done - it is rather annoying to not being able to install packages :/
[13:47] <indus> novato_br, what exactly do you want to do
[13:47] <twoface> on a production server, none the less
[13:47] <Leoneof`> hi, my LAN eth0 can't ping, but when i write ifdown eth0, ifup eth0, then eth0 will be able to ping, why?
[13:48] <aleanne82> novato_br: which OS is on the desktop?
[13:48] <ericson> _Paul_, well yeah, i wanted to encode stuff, and was hoping to take better use of the CPU, so yeah, pulled the trigger on the 64bit. For the most part its been good, but just problems here and there. Also maybe seems like more, because we've been slowly getting others in my company over to ubuntu as well. Half the bay is now talking about linux
[13:48] <novato_br> deskop ( win 7 ) notebook ( ubuntu 9.10 )
[13:49] <indus> novato_br, use the terminal desktop client
[13:49] <aleanne82> novato_br: it should work in default configuration if ubuntu sees a network card
[13:50] <ericson> _Paul_,  alright sir, thank you for your help! Have a good one, rocket attack just went off, gotta run.
[13:50] <jrib> twoface: you can either downgrade those 2 packages and not upgrade them until hardy-updates is fixed or check if the package you need is already in hardy-proposed
[13:51] <novato_br> it doesn't see, aleanne82
[13:51] <novato_br> how is it, indus ?
[13:51] <indus> novato_br, just type ip od the windows system and it will connect
[13:51] <naster> n
[13:51] <indus> novato_br, provided you have a route to it
[13:52] <naster> login
[13:53] <indus> novato_br,have you enabled remote login in windows server? just make sure
[13:55] <novato_br> I didn't make any setting  on windows 7
[13:55] <twoface> jrib: it seems to be in proposed
[13:55] <Leoneof`> hi, my LAN eth0 can't ping, but when i write ifdown eth0, ifup eth0, then eth0 will be able to ping, why?
[13:55] <linuxman> bonjour tout le monde
[13:55] <novato_br> I wanna that ubuntu get connect from windows 7
[13:56] <Slart> !fr | linuxman
[13:56] <jrib> twoface: make sure you install only that package from -proposed if decide to  install any
[13:56] <Slart> !samba | novato_br
[13:56] <novato_br> Slart, notebook isn't a server
[13:56] <novato_br> is it need of samba?
[13:57] <indus> novato_br, use teamviewer
[13:57] <indus> !info teamviewer
[13:57] <KoolD__> anyone know an application to simulate a webcam?
[13:57] <aleanne82> novato_br: are you trying to connect to internet via desktop?
[13:57] <Slart> novato_br: oh.. were you talking to someone already? then put their names at the beginning of the line
[13:57] <indus> ah ofcurse its windows exe
[13:57] <Slart> novato_br: I just read the last message
[13:58] <novato_br> indus, there isn't such command: teamviewer here
[13:58] <indus> novato_br, from windows , use teamviewer
[13:58] <Slart> KoolD__: hmm.. just out of interest.. why do you want to simulate a webcam?
[13:58] <novato_br> yeah, aleanne82
[13:58] <indus> novato_br, yes teamviewer obviously installs on windows
[13:58] <novato_br> sorry, indus
[13:58] <novato_br> I'm newbie
[13:58] <twoface> jrib: thanks for the help - it worked perfectly
[13:58] <indus> novato_br, so install it there ,then you can acess ubuntu system
[13:58] <indus> i gtg now
[13:58] <KoolD__> Slart: Well, trying to fuzz msn messenger..
[13:58] <indus> aleanne82, you can try helping direct
[13:59] <prakrit> i'm trying to convert .avi media files to .mpeg media file, can anyone help?
[13:59] <novato_br> ok, indus
[13:59] <novato_br> thank for you help, indus
[13:59] <novato_br> bye bye
[13:59] <Slart> KoolD__: ah.. hmm.. you might be able to use vlc.. perhaps.. perhaps there's some v4l tool that can do it too
[13:59] <indus> novato_br, good luck and have a nice day :)
[13:59] <novato_br> have a nice day too
[13:59] <Leoneof`> hi, my LAN eth0 can't ping, but when i write ifdown eth0, ifup eth0, then eth0 will be able to ping, why?
[13:59] <KoolD__> Slart:thanks i'll check it out
[14:00] <Slart> KoolD__: you're welcome.. let us know if it works
[14:00] <aleanne82> novato_br: sorry, i've completely forgot how to setup ICS in Windows 7 :(
[14:01] <novato_br> I am not using the ICS server, aleanne82
[14:01] <novato_br> I just to connect desktop to notebook
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:01] <novato_br> so nootebook get internet signal from desktop
[14:01] <mtaftm> HELP, volume control has gone from my panel :'(
[14:02] <aleanne82> novato_br: you need ICS in Windows so it could route between Internet and your LAN
[14:02] <prakrit> #quit
[14:02] <recmajkemi> ubuntu 9.10 /.17 im having random logouts whats up with that? anyone else?
[14:02] <novato_br> what does ICS stand for?
[14:03] <aleanne82> aleanne82: Internet connection sharing
[14:03] <novato_br> ok
[14:03] <novato_br> yeah, I want that
[14:03] <novato_br> ICS
[14:03] <novato_br> aleanne82, I don't have a router
[14:03] <Slart> recmajkemi: are they really logouts? or is it the X server crashing on you?
[14:03] <novato_br> I have just internet blue cable RJ45
[14:03] <john_dd> Incompetent Clever Standards
[14:04] <archboxman> How to make ubuntu boot faster???
[14:04] <Slart> recmajkemi: have a look in /var/log/syslog  .. if it's your X server crashing there should be a message or two about it in there
[14:04] <aleanne82> novato_br: your computer will be a router
[14:04] <Slart> archboxman: faster than 9.10?
[14:04] <aleanne82> how do you connect to Internet from desktop
[14:04] <novato_br> ok, aleanne82
[14:04] <mtaftm> hello anyone help me, and if you say please state the question ill go mad because i just stated it
[14:04] <archboxman> Slart: should have said boot faster??
[14:04] <novato_br> it is hard to explain that, aleanne82
[14:05] <john_dd> how to set up Video link, and best service to use on Ubuntu 9.10. Please Help
[14:05] <novato_br> I just try to simplify explanation
[14:05] <Slart> archboxman: nah.. just wondering what system you're running.. 9.10 already boots pretty fast.. 8.04 on the other hand is not so fast
[14:05] <archboxman> Slart: got my archlinux to boot in 15 seconds to desktop
[14:05] <BluesKaj> novato_br, and your rj45 cable is connected to a modem ?
[14:05] <novato_br> aleanne82, I could say: Internet cable
[14:05] <novato_br> no
[14:06] <novato_br> there isn't modem here
[14:06] <fibres> Anyone here able to help with iptables?
[14:06] <archboxman> Slart: hold on there is an article in ubuntu how to make your ubuntu boot in under 20 seconds
[14:06] <novato_br> there is just a blue cabe come from wall
[14:06] <BluesKaj> novato_br, are you on dialup ?
[14:06] <novato_br> no, BluesKaj
[14:06] <archboxman> Slart: looking for better help some direction
[14:06] <novato_br> it is bandwith connect
[14:07] <novato_br> so, let's start?
[14:07] <archboxman> Slart: since archlinux is a bit different then ubuntu looking for insight in to making it boot faster
[14:07] <aleanne82> novato_br: great, check this: http://windows.microsoft.com/pt-BR/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing
[14:07] <Slart> archboxman: there used to be some wiki pages on improving startup time.. but with the new grub and other changes in 9.10 I'm not sure all that stuff is actually valid any more
[14:07] <novato_br> no my desktop there are two ethernet card
[14:07] <novato_br> opa, aleanne82
[14:07] <BluesKaj> there must be a router or modem connected to the wall on the other side perhaps ?
[14:07] <novato_br> thank you, I see right now
[14:08] <canozan> hello, i need some help with my graphics card driver
[14:08] <canozan> can anyone help me? thanks
[14:08] <BluesKaj> canozan, which card?
[14:08] <aleanne82> novato_br: and BTW, if you have no ethernet hub, you'll need special cross-wired ethernet cable
[14:08] <canozan> it's an integrated intel 915
[14:08] <yasou> hey
[14:08] <archboxman> Slart: yes just move most of your services to boot back ground and it will cut your boot time by 15 seconds ;)
[14:09] <ph_softnet> yasou heheh
[14:09] <yasou> i'am new to ubuntu
[14:09] <yasou> have some questions
[14:09] <archboxman> her is the link http://its-about-amoena.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-to-start-faster.html
[14:09] <ph_softnet> yasou kai sena
[14:09] <yasou> yasou ph_softnet
[14:10] <Slart> archboxman: that article is 2 years old.. a lot has happened with ubuntu since then
[14:10] <Slart> !boot | archboxman
[14:10] <john_dd> has joined
[14:10] <Slart> !upstart | archboxman
[14:10] <yasou> agorasa ena usb wifi kai den ksero ti kano meta?
[14:10] <piero> I'm tired from winff, it just doesn't work. Someone can tell me a easy program with a GUI to convert videos to h264?
[14:11] <yasou> Any help
[14:11] <novato_br> I have a cross-wired ethernet cable
[14:11] <happyface0> yasou: english please
[14:11] <archboxman> Slart: ok, I think I will go to debian... most still loads from config files I better ask the debian chatroom ...
[14:11] <yasou> ops ok
[14:11] <Slart> archboxman: usplash has been replaces by something else.. xsplash?, we're now using grub 2 so those options have moved, if they still exist
[14:12] <Slart> archboxman: try that
[14:12] <yasou> i'am new to ubuntu , today i bought a TP-link usb wifi N ,what can i do next to make it work?
[14:12] <canozan> can anyone help me with my intel 915 graphics card drivers?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> !pm | canozan
[14:13] <novato_br> aleanne82, In my desktop there are two ethernet cards
[14:14] <yasou> so any help?
[14:14] <archboxman> Slart: no options have not moved just a different format??? will get to bottom lin real the only change your trying to make is to get your network to load in background services because that eats up 15 seconds in boot time alone if you get your network using dhcp to load upon request then linux boots in 15 seconds
[14:14] <novato_br> one of them it is internet signal and another is to local area network
[14:14] <john_dd> john has quit, jdd is leaving for my dinner!
[14:14] <canozan> ok BlueKaj, sorry
[14:15] <BluesKaj> !intel
[14:15] <archboxman> Slart: got to run ... have fun
[14:15] <Slart> archboxman: you too.. bye
[14:16] <MBuntu1> Anybudy who has managed to get ldap server running at 9.10?
[14:16] <aleanne82> novato_br: good, share the one which is connected to internet
[14:17] <nathan7> Leoneof`: allow-hotplug eeth0 maybe
[14:18] <novato_br> aleanne82, yeah
[14:18] <pilinha> Hi all
[14:20] <aleanne82> novato_br: after that, you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> from ubuntu machine
[14:20] <panfist_> hi, how do i disable gdm running on startup on an ubuntu desktop? i just want the basic text terminal
[14:21] <Leoneof`> nathan7: how?
[14:21] <pilinha> im trying to run an application, but , it uses a library compiled with Elf ABI set to Linux, and I saw that all binaries are compiled to System V on Ubuntu. Is there something I can ?
[14:21] <novato_br> ok
[14:22] <novato_br> aleanne82, where can I put that number: <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:22] <novato_br> on the server?
[14:22] <aleanne82> no, on the ubuntu machine, in terminal like 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>'
[14:22] <happyface0> is there a way to set wifi priorities with wicd? (or wpa_supplicant if its still used in karmic)?
[14:23] <diddy> Is there a graphical ftp client that comes with Ubuntu 9.10 by default?
[14:23] <tradecomp> Hi there... ANy1 around?
[14:23] <aleanne82> diddy: nautilus :)
[14:23] <Slart> diddy: nautilus can be used.. or gftp.. but gftp isn't installed by default
[14:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> !anyone | tradecomp
[14:24] <yasou> how to enable  dvd palyback on ubuntu ?
[14:24] <Slart> !dvd | yasou
[14:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> yasou: use medibuntu.
[14:24] <yasou> !dvd
[14:25] <yasou> mediubuntu is another  derivate from ubuntu?
[14:25] <Leoneof`> !allow-hotplug
[14:25] <nathan7> Leoneof`: by adding the line to the interfaces file
[14:25] <nathan7> Leoneof`: (with eth0 instead of eeth0 xD)
[14:25] <nathan7> allow-hotplug eth0
[14:25] <yasou> oh i found it\let me check
[14:25] <nathan7> Right after the auto line
[14:26] <Leoneof`> nathan7:  instead of "iface" or instead of "auto eth0" ?
[14:26] <nathan7> Not *instead* of anything
[14:26] <nathan7> *add* it
[14:26] <Leoneof`> ahh
[14:26] <Leoneof`> before iface or after? lol
[14:27] <nathan7> Leoneof`: before
[14:28] <novato_br> aleanne82, should I put the to get ip adress automatically?
[14:28] <novato_br> should I check*
[14:28] <javi> alguien del jardín de la reina
[14:28] <tradecomp> any1 here experienced with frambuffer applications?
[14:29] <tradecomp> framebuffer*
[14:29] <aleanne82> novato_br: you may, or choose the static IP in range 192.168.0.x
[14:29] <javi> hi
[14:29] <tradecomp> hi
[14:29] <panfist_> hi, how do i disable gdm running on startup on an ubuntu desktop? i just want the basic text terminal
[14:29] <javi> you are inglish?