[14:28] <xstat> actionparsnip, i've allready checked that page from ubuntu froums but couldn't get the problem solved, maybe i have to aproach it from other angle, not from kxdocker, maybe it's a xserver config problem
[14:29] <jembouge> ahmad: do what ActionParsnip is saying to get the name of the device :)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> xstat: try running it as kdesu just to test
[14:29] <jembouge> should be a /dev/sdaX where X is a number
[14:30] <ahmad> how can i get the fstab file ... excuse me folks .. i am new to linux
[14:30] <jembouge> (I'm too :p  )
[14:30] <ubuntu_> Iam trying to install Kubuntu but dont know what Mount point I need to set on my saving disk for movies etc. I have one ntfs with Windows XP, one / for kubuntu, one /home and one /swap. What do I need to set on the last partition for movies?
[14:31] <jembouge> but just go to media:/  and point the mouse on the disk that you want mounted, it will tell you something like "sdaX" somewhere in the tooltip
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: set it to whatever you want, the mounting will be added to your fstab at install
[14:31] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: how can i get the fstab file ?!
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ubotu: call it /movies if you want
[14:31] <jembouge> forget it
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: /etc/fstab
[14:31] <ubuntu_> ooh I can do that ;)
[14:31] <tuxwulf_> What can I do about the live CD not starting up properly because "Can not open tty: job control not started"...?
[14:32] <xstat> actionparsnip, nothing happens, maybe it's the mouse configuration in xorg-conf that's causing the problem, it's set to ImPS/2, i have a Genius 2 button with scroll PS2 optical mouse, wich other driver could be set to make some test??
[14:32] <jembouge> (/etc/fstab)
[14:32] <jembouge> lol sorry you said it
[14:33] <ubuntu_> thanks for the help
[14:33] <ahmad> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[14:33] <ahmad> #
[14:33] <ahmad> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[14:33] <ahmad> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[14:33] <ahmad> # /dev/sda8
[14:33] <ahmad> UUID=3c0f8d09-dcd6-4e6a-bb0d-b21f80d6f83a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:33] <ahmad> # /dev/sda9
[14:33] <ahmad> UUID=2ac31a54-a2c3-42c7-a959-300c5963650f none            swap    sw              0       0
[14:33] <ahmad> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[14:33] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: did that help !?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: yeah but use the paste site
[14:34] <Jucato> !pastebin
[14:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:35] <jembouge> I guess his partition isn't shown in the list
[14:35] <ahmad> ActionParsnip:what is paste site ?! i feel like idiottt :'(
[14:35] <jembouge> read above
[14:35] <jembouge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[14:36] <jembouge> you don't have to feel this way, we all went through it :p
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !pastebin | ahmad
[14:36] <ubotu> ahmad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: you paste in there then send us the link you get
[14:36] <ahmad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47098/
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> xstat: can you find kxdocker_conf.xml
[14:37] <ahmad> ActionParsnip:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47098/
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: thats how you do it. we can now analse your fstab file
[14:38] <ubuntu> how do I set a swap to a partion in the installation? I trayied to set "mount point" to /swap the the installation sayes that I havent chose a swap and have to go back.
[14:38] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: good to know such good information !! :D
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: you need to set the type as linuxswap
[14:39] <xstat> actionparsnip. yes, i have two of them one in /usr/share/apps/kxdocker and the other one it my home folder under .kde directory, you think the problem might be in the config file??
[14:39] <ubuntu> moint point: /linuxswap ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ubotu: you need to change the filesystem type to linuxswap
[14:40] <ubuntu> aha
[14:40] <ubuntu> thanks again
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xstat: kill kxdocker and rename the one in .kde so it is backed up
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xstat: then rerun
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xstat: let us know how it goes
[14:41] <pteague_work> ok, the eclipse package dependency seems completely nuts... especially considering i downloaded eclipse for linux off their site & have installed a bunch of tools & haven't had any issues... now, attempting to install eclipse via aptitude, it wants to download 72 packages (161mb)... ?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !eclipse
[14:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:42] <tko_> hi
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> pteague_work: if apt says you need it, you need it
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> hi tko_
[14:42] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: so what did you get ?
[14:43] <pteague_work> why do i need ant & junit for eclipse?  the only reason i need those is if i'm doing java development
[14:43] <llutz> pteague_work: stop aptitude from installing recommends
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: does your drive pick up in the bios at power on?
[14:43] <pteague_work> ah, gotcha
[14:43] <Jucato> pteague_work: aptitude installs recommends by default. use -R to stop that
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: have you just taken the drive out of another pc and stuck it in your system
[14:44] <Jucato> or use apt-get (which doesn't install recommends by default)
[14:44] <tko_> Folks,i have an question regarding installing soundcard on my notebook
[14:45] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i just installed this system after i removed mandriva .. and my system is latpop .. so i didn't stuck the hdd to it
[14:45] <traveller77> hi, could you someone clarify this "developers plan on implementing a new strategy which will allow Kubuntu to catch-up with some of the functionality of Ubuntu"
[14:45] <TheNo1Yeti> tko: just ask the question.  No need for a preface. :)
[14:45] <traveller77> appeared on the kubuntu.org, regarding the herdy version
[14:45] <xstat> actionparsnip, i think it uses the one in /usr/share, i renamed it and rerun and asked for the config file, i pressed cancel and the same problem again
[14:45] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: would you like me to reboot to check if the drive is picked in start up or not ?!
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok so you are on a laptop with an internal hardrive that boots ok an you are trying to mount a usb hard drive
[14:45] <traveller77> is ubuntu more funnctional than kubuntu and in what way?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: is that right]
[14:46] <xstat> actionparsnip: checking the xonfig file i see the only icon set in the dock, maybe i could add some other in the config file to see if apears
[14:46] <tko_> lol,thanks
[14:46] <tko_> i have an Lenovo 3000 n100, i know that there many tutorials in the net
[14:46] <Bandit12> with sharing folders is there away that when you share 1 folder the folders within that get shared aswell?
[14:46] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: nooo .. i already can't read my internal hdd .. i read its name and can't access its contetns :(
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: so you are running from the live cd?
[14:47] <xstat> actionparsnip: do you have installed kxdocker on youyr system?? if do could you send me your config file to see how kxdocker saves icon data in config file?
[14:47] <ahmad> no .. from hdd
[14:47] <ahmad> i installed the kubuntu itself from the alternate CD
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> xstat: I dont have it installed. I'd have figured renaming the config file would foce a fresh one to be created
[14:47] <TheNo1Yeti> Bandit12: If you are talking about changing the folder permissions to be readable by other users than just you, you can do a recursive change.   -R from a command line.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: accept my chat offer
[14:49] <Bandit12> i have a music folder and when i put new stuff in i wanted that available across my home network automatically.
[14:49] <xstat> actionparsnip: yes, but the problem reappears, i really don't know where could be the problem at, but i know it can be solved, just don't know how :-S
[14:49] <pteague_work> ok, 29 new with 86.3mb is a bit more reasonable... still trying to install eclipse-source, junit & ant though :(  ... hmm...  i wonder if the 'eclipse' package is just a dependency package & really doesn't provide anything
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> xstat: try uninstalling then reinstalling
[14:50] <ahmad> i think i already accepted !!
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: so you have installed kubuntu to a laptop with a single hard drive
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: where is the other drive if it is not usb
[14:50] <jembouge> Bandit12: I think if you're sharing with samba, then folders within your shared folder should be shared to
[14:50] <jembouge> it's recursive
[14:50] <xstat> actionparsnip, don't think the problem would get solved by that, i have installed it many times form sources now i'm using checkinstall to build and install it as a deb package to easely remove it
[14:51] <annemarie> where can i find network printer support for kubuntu?
[14:51] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: internal .. the HDD of the laptop !!
[14:51] <pteague_work> yep, looks like eclipse is just a bundle of dependencies...  time to go dig
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: so what is kubuntu installed to?
[14:51] <jembouge> ActionParsnip: ahmad probably mens a partition then
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: the same drive you cannot read?
[14:51] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok do you have a seperate partition desired to store user data
[14:52] <jembouge> OMG, I hope for you that you didn't ...
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> xstat: have you tried kibadock?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> jembouge: wassup?
[14:53] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: first i deleted the partition was holding the mantundiva from windows .. and then i installed the kubuntu over it - assumig that the setup will re-organize the partitions again as it likes - and then here i am
[14:53] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i even can't installa any programs .. i don't know whassup !!
[14:54] <jembouge> I just wondered whether ahmad had "replaced" his ntfs partition by the linux one, yet wanted to keep it.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ok so you want to mount your windows partition?
[14:54] <ahmad> yes
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: why didnt you say that then?
[14:54] <ahmad> because you did't ask what partition i want to mount !!
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> you were on about disks
[14:55] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: do you already know the solution ?!
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: took ages to realise you were on a laptop
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: please be nice.
[14:55] <xstat> actionparsnip, yes i have installed it once, but i have solved many installation problems, i think this is the last to solve
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok so you have a windows partiotion you would like to access from kubuntu
[14:56] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i am on a laptop .. i have 1 hdd .. i have windows XP on separate partition .. and other 2 partitions .. i want to mount the 3 partitions
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xstat: short of reinstalling and renaming the profiles i'm pretty stumped
[14:56] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i wish it is clear by now !
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xstat: sorry :(
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok cool, gimme a sec
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: probably easiest done by useing the mount config in systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions
[14:57] <xstat> actionparsnip thank you anyway you had helped me a lot
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: sudo fdisk -l
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: this will show you which partition your windows is on as 1 will be ntfs
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: this will help loads
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: mount config is a ton easier than all that CLI stuff.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim: fair point
[14:59] <ahmad> Question :: can i mount a NTFS from kubuntu !?
[14:59] <genii> nosrednaekim: Looks like you drove them off LOL
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: yes
[15:00]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> genii: mention GUIs and everyone scatters and goes to look at the pretty tool :D
[15:00] <ahmad> it gived me error
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: ehat did.
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> *what
[15:01] <jembouge> ahmad yes, you need one command line to do so
[15:01] <TheNo1Yeti> Wait, Linux has a gui?
[15:01] <ahmad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47100/
[15:01] <jembouge> ahmad: and the name of the device you want to mount
[15:01] <dane> hi
[15:01] <ahmad> i tried it from the system settings
[15:01] <ahmad> the system seems to go unstable
[15:02] <kub^> hi, how do i release and renew my ip for dhcp (kubuntu gutsy)?
[15:02] <ahmad> i have also thin error when i try to close dolphin
[15:02] <ahmad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47101/
[15:03] <ahmad> i don't know what is happening :'(
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: unmount that ntfs drive
[15:03] <jembouge> me neither, this is really weird..
[15:04] <jembouge> so tell me, did you install kubuntu or are you just running from the cd?
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> kub^: "sudo dhclient <interface name>"
[15:04] <kub^> nosrednaekim thanks :)
[15:05] <jembouge> dane: hi, what's up?
[15:05] <pag> ahmad, " sudo chown ahmad:ahmad /home/ahmad/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml " should solve that dolphin bookmark issue
[15:05] <Jucato> ahmad: that's a known bug with kdesudo
[15:05] <Jucato> follow what pag said
[15:06] <Jucato> (and check if there are updates available because I think this has been fixed already)
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: I see your problem, you uncleanly shut down windows while that drive was mounted. you need to boot windows to recover the journal and then shut-down cleanly.
[15:07] <ahmad> so what are the steps now ?!
[15:07] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: to which problem are you referring to?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: boot windows, then cleanly shut down
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: his hard drive mount error
[15:07] <Jucato> ah ok
[15:07] <zvezdichko> Good thing I have finally a fast machine. Now I'd like to try KDE 4. But will there be a conflict between qts and skype?
[15:07] <Jucato> not the kdesudo/d3lphin error then :P
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> nah.... I stay clear of kdesudo errors :D
[15:08] <ahmad> ok .. meet you after 15 mins .. i didn't turn off windows since ages :D
[15:08] <F3000> !wifi
[15:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:23] <carmen> v
[15:23] <Daisuke_Ido> w
[15:26] <ere4si> vdub
[15:34] <zen-xstat> hello people, i'm trying to get workin kxdocker on kubuntu gutsy, does anyone successfuly installed kxdocker??
[15:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all  : )
[15:36] <alesan> hey how do I caonfigure a raw pppoe connecton (not through a router, I ony have a modem) on gutsy?
[15:36] <alesan> DSL modem
[15:36] <nosrednaekim> alesan: probably Kppp can do it
[15:38]  * BluesKaj hands out hot coffees to all who need it
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> brrr.... yeah. its cold here
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> still around 23F
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: sorry, didn't see your question.No, there will be no conflict
[15:40] <BluesKaj> milder now , just slightly below freezing ...wife is pressuring me to put up the Christmas lights
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: and I'd wait till the next RC, everything should be VERY usable then
[15:40] <zvezdichko> nosrednaekim: good thing ;) I only worry how I will have to remove KDE 4 when a new RC comes out
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: if its from .deb packages souldn't be hard.
[15:41] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh..
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: if its from svn/source, just recompile
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, tried twice to get those kde4 instructions to work , but no dice .. obviously doing something wrong , but I can't be bothered to find out : )
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh...
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its really not worth the work
[15:43] <BluesKaj> yeah. 3.5.8 works fine
[15:44] <BluesKaj> like you said , when it's deb'd then I'll do it
[15:46] <lorddarkpat> hello
[15:46] <BluesKaj> !hello | lorddarkpat
[15:46] <nosrednaekim> hello lorddarkpat
[15:46] <ubotu> lorddarkpat: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:47] <alesan> re
[15:47] <alesan> I have no idea how to configure a pppoe connection with kppp
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> !pppoe
[15:48] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[15:48] <Jucato> I don't thnk kppp handles pppoe adsl
[15:48] <alesan> it seems it's dial up only
[15:48] <Jucato> yep
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> oh.. sorry :(
[15:48] <alesan> Jucato: ah ok :)
[15:48] <alesan> no problem
[15:48] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: no, that's the right link
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> thatlink should help though.
[15:48] <Jucato> kppp's the wrong app
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: yeah, but I told him earilier that KPP coulddo it
[15:49] <Jucato> ah
[15:49] <sigma> why does the search feature in konqueror not work?
[15:49] <Jucato> aaaah
[15:49] <Jucato> what search feature?
[15:49] <alesan> ok so it is command line only
[15:49] <alesan> good
[15:49] <Jucato> alesan: yep
[15:49] <Jucato> pppoeconf
[15:49] <Jucato> er...sudo pppoeconf
[15:50] <alesan> I have to tell my girlfriend in europe how to setup the connection
[15:50] <BluesKaj> sigma, do you mean strigi or locate ?
[15:50] <alesan> she's now gone to buy a ethernet cable
[15:50] <Jucato> oh..
[15:50] <sigma> press ctrl+f in a konqueror window, that feature - whatever i type in it never finds anything
[15:50] <alesan> about me... you know, I feel like knetworkmanager sucks regarding wireless connections
[15:51] <alesan> now I cannot connect with any WPA network, only "free" ones
[15:51] <daz> High everyone. I'm seriously struggling to find a way to increase the amount of RAM Java allocates to my browser.
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah, knetworkmangler has problems
[15:51] <alesan> any idea how to reset knetworkmanager or some other component?
[15:51] <daz> Can anyone help?
[15:51] <Jucato> sigma: while browsing web pages? yes sometimes it doesn't work. I don't know why. I think perhaps it has to do something with the web page itself
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> alesan: the cuases vary wildly.
[15:51] <alesan> any better wifi manager I can install? now I am connected with a ethernet cable
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> alesan: for wpa? yeah, there are a couple
[15:52]  * Jucato is lucky to be using only WEP at home... no problems there
[15:53] <denn> hi everyone
[15:53]  * nosrednaekim lives so far out in the middle of nowhere that he leaves it open
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> hi denn:
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> alesan: the names are escaping me ATM
[15:53] <sigma> Jucato: no while searching my hdd, im at a folder with files which start with the word alien, but if i open the find bar and type in alien then click find nothing happens - it don't find anything even though there are files with that word in the name there
[15:53] <Jucato> sigma: aaah that
[15:54] <Jucato> it uses regular expressions (I know, annoying...)
[15:54] <Jucato> try alien*
[15:55] <sigma> oh my gosh, lol. they go all the way to make a gui to search and it still needs regular expressions to work:)
[15:56] <Jucato> find is a pretty GUI frontend to "find" and "grep"
[15:57] <sigma> thanks, its working well now, it should tell people that in the find bar or add the star in at the end automatically
[15:57] <nosrednaekim> sigma: but what if people want an exact match?
[15:57] <Jucato> (reg exp are actually very powerful... once you know even just the basics....)
[15:58] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: the actual problem is that kfind doesn't really tell the user in an obvious manner that it requires regexp
[15:58] <sigma> nosrednaekim: good point!
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> hmmm yeah,it really should.
[15:58] <sigma> ya thats it Jucato
[15:58] <Jucato> or it should "scale" to both...accepting reg exp and non-reg exp...
[15:59] <Jucato> dunno if that's even possible though :)
[15:59]  * Jucato goes back to studying
[15:59] <sigma> there should be a one line hint above the search bar giving an example of how to enter the variable
[15:59] <sigma> maybe its fixed in kde4
[15:59] <Jucato> (or gone... dunno :P)
[15:59] <Riddell> anyone with xinerama?  testers needed for qt 4
[16:00] <bar> The petition!!!!! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mainactor/index.html
[16:00] <Jucato> sigma: oh Dolphin works on filters, but only for the current directory (same as filters in Konqueror)
[16:01] <sigma> lol, i test drove konqueror on a kde4 live cd, its great, looks so much better. i still don't like dolphin, seems to be lacking functionality. i still say kde should use konq for file browsing and firefox for web browsing
[16:02] <Jucato> sigma: that last part is impossible :)
[16:03] <sigma> Jucato: why you say that - how come its possible for gnome to do it but not kde?
[16:03] <Jucato> GNOME's default web browser isn't Firefox
[16:03] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: what are you studying?
[16:03] <Jucato> C++
[16:03] <SSJ_GZ> sigma: Use of a non-KDE component is up to the distros; it's out of KDE's hands.
[16:04] <Jucato> SSJ_GZ: although what he's saying is that KDE itself should use Firefox as KDE's browser
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: i'm trying to learn SIP so I can make a python linking to the qt pictureflow widget
[16:04] <Jucato> sigma: one good reason is that a KDE browser would need to use KDE :)
[16:05] <sigma> Jucato: good point! but why is firefox the norm in ubuntu and not kubuntu?
[16:06] <xRaich[o]2x> sigma: firefox is gtk based and loads a shitload of libs. and that comsumes memory
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> sigma: because firefox is written in gtk, which is what gnome uses
[16:06] <Jucato> sigma: that's for distros to decide. nothing to do with GNOME or KDE actually
[16:07] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: It's a bit of a stretch to say Firefox is "written in GTK" but yes, it currently uses GTK as its toolkit on Linux.
[16:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah..
[16:08] <sigma> well i use firefox, the only extra lib i had to install was libstdcc++5 to install it, can't say its consuming that much more memory
[16:09] <sigma> is there any way just to remove the web browsing part of konqueror?
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> sigma: you probably had already installed other gtk apps.
[16:09] <Jucato> just don't use it
[16:09] <Jucato> the web browsing part of Konqueror (KHTML) is used in other KDE apps to. it's a core library
[16:10] <sigma> nope firefox was the first one
[16:10] <sigma> oh ok i see, better not fiddle with that one!
[16:11] <sigma> all the other dep's except that one lib were pre-installed on my system
[16:11] <sigma> does anyone know if theres a .deb package for the vdrift racing game?
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> !info vdrift
[16:12] <mot_> what package enables slideshow in konqueror?
[16:12] <ubotu> Package vdrift does not exist in gutsy
[16:12] <Insurgent> HEy.
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> hey Insurgent
[16:12] <Insurgent> Can someone help me out?
[16:12] <sigma> i checked packages.ubuntu.com - it wasn't there
[16:12] <Insurgent> I'm trying to update and it isn't working
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> Insurgent: whats the problem
[16:12] <sigma> whats the problem?
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> sigma: try www.getdeb.net
[16:13] <sigma> will do, thanks
[16:13] <Jucato> mot_: what slideshow do you mean?
[16:13] <Insurgent> nosrednaekim, during update i get a 404 on "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz"
[16:13] <sigma> i hate building from source
[16:13] <mot_> Jucato, slideshow view
[16:13]  * Jucato loves compiling...
[16:13] <Insurgent> It's in trying to compile to kubuntu 7.4
[16:13] <Insurgent> It's in trying to compile to kubuntu 7.04
[16:13]  * Jucato has never seen a slideshow view
[16:13] <nosrednaekim> Insurgent: compile?
[16:14] <Insurgent> Err
[16:14] <Insurgent> upgrade*
[16:14] <Insurgent> I'm not at all with it today.
[16:14] <llutz> mot_: kipi-plugins
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> Insurgent: you're trying to upgrade to 7.04? then remove that line.
[16:14] <Jucato> llutz: in Konqueror?
[16:14] <Insurgent> Remove what line?
[16:14] <llutz> Jucato: iirc uses konqi some kio-slave to use those plugins too
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> from your /etc/apt/sources.list.... the line that has the kubuntu URL in ir.
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> *it
[16:15] <Insurgent> nosrednaekim, okay.
[16:15] <Insurgent> Thanks
[16:15] <Jucato> llutz: I don't think Konqueror uses any kipi stuff at all
[16:15] <sigma> hey i didnt know that getdeb.net was owned by canonical
[16:15] <mot_> llutz, nogo, i already have that installed and it's not doing the trick.
[16:15] <Jucato> perhaps Gwenview, Digikam or Krita
[16:15] <sigma> why is it then not in packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:15] <Insurgent> Arg.
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> sigma: unsuppoerted games mostly.
[16:15] <Jucato> O.o
[16:15] <Insurgent> Don't you hate it when packages are not kept up to date?
[16:15] <Insurgent> Like older versions of software.
[16:16] <jpatrick> Insurgent: they are in the unstable release
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick: lol, he's all the way back on edgy
[16:16] <Insurgent> jpatrick, ?
[16:16] <sigma> oh i see
[16:16] <jpatrick> Insurgent: if you're on edgy no wonder...
[16:16] <Jucato> sigma: where did you get the idea that getdeb is owned by canonical?
[16:17] <Insurgent> jpatrick, hmm?
[16:17] <jpatrick> Insurgent: the archives are frozen from updated packages after the release
[16:17] <sigma> © 2007 Canonical Ltd. Ubuntu and Canonical are registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd.
[16:17] <Insurgent> jpatrick, do when i update will packages update?
[16:17] <Jucato> sigma: yes. Canonical owns Canonical and Ubuntu :D
[16:17] <jpatrick> Insurgent: nop
[16:17] <Jucato> sigma: it doesn't say that getdeb is owned by Canonical does it? :D
[16:17] <sigma> but why does that appear at the bottom of the getdeb website?
[16:18] <jpatrick> Insurgent: unless you upgrade to a newer release
[16:18] <Jucato> sigma: it's a copyright notification. :)
[16:18] <Insurgent> jpatrick, How do i do this?
[16:18] <stdin> probably because they use Ubuntu and Ubuntu logos
[16:18] <sigma> and that site looks alot like the canonical + ubuntu sites
[16:18] <jpatrick> !upgrade | Insurgent
[16:18] <ubotu> Insurgent: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:18] <Insurgent> thanks
[16:18] <sigma> perhaps canonical sponsored the hosting + bandwidth or something
[16:18] <Jucato> sigma: that's irrelevant. the drupal theme used for the Ubuntu websites are freely and openy available :)
[16:18] <Jucato> sigma: not even :)
[16:20] <sigma> oh ok, i dont get why vdrift is not in the repo's - its such a cool game, better than torcs that is there
[16:20] <Jucato> sigma: tie, manpower, no one has done it yet? there can be many reasons why
[16:20] <Jucato> (usuallyanpower and time)
[16:20] <Jucato> er.. "man power"
[16:22] <sigma> well there is a feisty version available, would that possibly work on gutsy?
[16:22] <vara> Please help.  I've screwed something up and figure out what happened.  I followed the instructions for disabling tapping on my touchpad while typing
[16:22] <vara> then I lost tapping completely.
[16:23] <vara> so I deleted the script
[16:23] <vara> and removed the entry to xorg.conf to return the system to how it was before
[16:23] <vara> and now I have no touchpad functionality at all when logged into X
[16:24] <vara> I do have touchpad when signing into the initial session
[16:24] <Dragonath> I think reconfiguring the X server might help
[16:24] <sigma> vara: you should run that reconfigure xorg command
[16:24] <sigma> lesson: always have a backup of your xorg.conf!
[16:24] <vara> please tell me how to do that!  (run the reconfigure command)
[16:25] <sigma> does anyone know the command off hand? i forgot it
[16:25] <vara> yeah (bashes head against wall) - backup!  kicking myself now
[16:25] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:25] <sigma> don't worry i learnt the hard way - had to re-install
[16:25] <vara> I plugged in a usb mouse and it works fine - so it's just the touchpad
[16:26] <jpapas> hello
[16:26] <sigma> i love my compiz cube, yesterday i put one video in each window and played them in full screen, then i rotated the cube and they were all playing super-smoothly!
[16:27] <sigma> vara: ya then its just a reconfigure that you need
[16:27] <vara> OK, thanks...trying it now
[16:27] <sigma> check the /etc/X11 folder, sometimes it makes a backup there
[16:27] <vara> OK
[16:28] <sigma> can compiz not show window contents while moving windows?
[16:29] <jembouge> jpapas: ask man
[16:30] <trappist> sigma: sure it can
[16:30] <sigma> and why does klipper disapear when im using compiz?
[16:30] <sigma> trappist: how? im using kwin with compiz
[16:33] <vara> back in a sec - gotta restart X
[16:33] <trappist> sigma: I don't even know how you're doing that
[16:33] <sigma> trappist: lol i just didnt install emerald, and its working perfectly
[16:39] <deeploy> kubuntu français ?
[16:39] <jpatrick> !fr | deeploy
[16:39] <ubotu> deeploy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:39] <deeploy> ok
[16:39] <deeploy> merci
[16:39] <deeploy> :)
[16:39] <jpatrick> de rien
[16:42] <vara> OK, so now I have a new problem...how do I kill the xserver-xorg process?  It keeps running in the background and so the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg won't work.  ctrl-esc won't let me kill it due to insufficient privileges
[16:42] <vara> neither will a log out and back in
[16:45] <vara> sorry to be a pain, I'm just a little freaked out.
[16:46] <vara> how can I get rid of the process that's locking me out of the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command?
[16:46] <jpatrick> vara: killall dpkg(-reconfigure)
[16:46] <jpatrick> !patience | vara
[16:46] <ubotu> vara: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:46] <jpatrick> :P
[16:46] <vara> ahh, let me try that one
[16:46] <jpatrick> I was still typing :)
[16:47] <Walkboss> 1
[16:47] <Walkboss> Whoops
[16:47] <vara> i totally understand that and I'm truly grateful.  if my attitude came across as anything different, I'm really sorry.
[16:47] <jpatrick> vara: did it work?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> it's asmall annoyance but can be a frustrating one , when correcting spelling in the konq browser google searchbar the cursor won't stay behind the completed letter , it constantly jumps to the end of the phrase after just one keystroke. Any suggestions , cuz I havent found any fixes anywhere.
[16:48] <Walkboss> Can someone let me know how to get kwin working with compiz? Is it even possible?
[16:48] <vara> yes!!!, I'm just starting the reconfigure process...
[16:48] <jpatrick> Walkboss: no, you have to replace kwin with compiz with "compiz --replace"
[16:49] <Walkboss> jpatrick, my window decorations disappear when I run that.
[16:49] <stdin> Walkboss: installed compiz-kde ?
[16:49] <jpatrick> Walkboss: have you installed emerald and compiz-kde?
[16:50] <Walkboss> Not emerald
[16:50] <cpereira> hi
[16:50] <Walkboss> Do I also need emerald-themes?
[16:50] <jpatrick> yep
[16:50] <stdin> shouldn't *need* emerald, but it's another window decorator
[16:50] <jpatrick> I needed emerald here
[16:50] <stdin> (probably better than the one in compiz-kde)
[16:51] <Walkboss> What is the package name?
[16:51] <Walkboss> Package emerald-themes has no installation candidate
[16:51] <bazhang> emerald or compiz-kde?
[16:51] <Walkboss> I got emerald and it suggested emerald-themes
[16:51] <Walkboss> Oh well
[16:51] <stdin> you have to get the themes via svn...
[16:52] <stdin> Walkboss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-3f62aec4d410bb7d9a17dc47f6b04f73638dc368
[16:52] <Walkboss> I used to use it with gnome in fiesty, but I haven't had any luck with KDE
[16:53] <jpatrick> ...Kubuntu then use this command: ...emerald, hmm
[16:54] <bazhang> emerald --replace
[16:54] <stdin> jpatrick: the package "compiz" pulls "compiz-gnome" and a ton on gtk deps, that's why the 2 are different
[16:54] <stdin> and someone thinks emerald is a must on kde
[16:55] <jpatrick> stdin: I know, the page just said emerald
[16:55] <Walkboss> I swear I used to use metacity --replace after running compiz and every was well.
[16:55] <Walkboss> emerald --replace just hangs, by the way
[16:55] <F3000> Anyone here able to help me with connecting a wireless router? I'm not too n00b with it (anymore), I'm just running low with ideas, and I still shun manuals... :/
[16:55] <stdin> Walkboss: it only works while running compiz
[16:55] <Walkboss> I said I haven't had any luck. I've tried on KDE, please don't assume I haven't.
[16:56] <Walkboss> I ran compiz --replace first
[16:56] <Walkboss> then no decorations
[16:56] <Walkboss> then emerald --replace and now it says Reloading...
[16:57] <Walkboss> I guess because I tried to change the theme. It's not loaded at all though. at least I still don't see any borders.
[16:58] <Walkboss> wait. brb
[17:01] <jpatrick> Walkboss: did it work?
[17:01] <Walkboss> No dice
[17:02] <Walkboss> I ran "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24" and restarted X
[17:03] <jpatrick> Walkboss: have you actived the nvidia driver in the restricted manager?
[17:03] <Walkboss> yeah, it's up
[17:03] <jpatrick> odd..
[17:03] <Walkboss> Isn't "AddARGBGLXVisuals" supposed to be in the device section of xorg.conf?
[17:04] <jpatrick> err. I use ati, no idea
[17:07] <Walkboss> I'll try a couple more things and if it doesn't work I'll wait a few months again. Thanks for your help
[17:14] <combinio> how to extract *.ACE archive ?? :}
[17:14] <Dr_willis> !ace
[17:14] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[17:14] <combinio> i installed unace already
[17:15] <Dr_willis> then use the unace command? :)
[17:15] <combinio> Dr_willis: will try that :)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[17:15] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[17:15] <Dr_willis> use the shell :)  and 'unp' is what i normally do for most all the archives i come across
[17:16] <xiven> Hey
[17:16] <xiven> I am having a big internet problem with Kubuntu
[17:16] <psycho> Hallöchen miteinander
[17:16] <psycho> someone speaks german?
[17:17] <Jucato> !de | psycho
[17:17] <ubotu> psycho: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:17] <xiven> It works for a minute or two, if I don't try anything other then viewing the front of google or the like....
[17:17] <psycho> ² jucato do you speak german?
[17:17] <Jucato> no
[17:17] <psycho> oh
[17:17] <psycho> ok
[17:17] <psycho> *gg*
[17:18] <psycho> u know how to install a driver 4 a WLAN Interface? i tried 2 get a better driver in my 7.10 but something is wrong now...
[17:19] <psycho> if i try ifconfig i dont see my wlan interface
[17:19] <Jucato> iwconfig?
[17:19] <Jucato> !wireless
[17:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:19] <psycho> if i make iwconfig i saw it
[17:20] <psycho> i know but i shoot down the driver i think
[17:20] <Jucato> yeah I think it should be iwconfig
[17:20] <skyfalcon866> is there is cpu temp app for kicker
[17:20] <psycho> but in my old configuration i saw it also with ifconfig
[17:20] <psycho> and with iwconfig i cant activate it
[17:21]  * Jucato is not good w/ wireless
[17:21] <psycho> iwconfig shows me wlan0
[17:22] <psycho> is i make ifconfig up wlan0 is says Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[17:23] <venik> 7.10 is DEFINITELY slower on my computer than 7.04 was, especially in handling graphics.  WHen I move the mouse, the cursor does not follow instantly as it should.  I tried adjusting the drag delay and threshold, but it did not help.  I am using an ATI card and the generic Linux driver for ATI cards.
[17:23] <psycho> with lsmod i saw my card 05:06.0 Network controller: Ralink RT2561/RT61 rev B ...
[17:24] <niko_> hi to all
[17:24] <niko_> how can i record my desktop?
[17:25] <llutz> install recordmydesktop
[17:25] <niko_> eheheh
[17:25] <niko_> it's in the repo?
[17:25] <Jucato> !info krecordmydesktop
[17:25] <ubotu> krecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB
[17:25] <llutz> niko_: it is, a imho better, kommander-gui is reKordmydesktop, apps-kde.org
[17:26] <llutz> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=55760
[17:27] <hw_> Anyone know a backport of esvn 0.6.12 for feisty?
[17:27] <niko_> record
[17:27] <niko_> or rekord?
[17:28] <llutz> niko_: package is "recordmydesktop", gui="krecordmydesktop" or "reKordmydesktop", see link
[17:28] <niko_> okiz!
[17:28] <niko_> understand
[17:29] <psycho> in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/DWL-G510?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29 they speak of a marvel chipset but i have a RaLink chipset
[17:30] <llutz> psycho: d-link changes chipsets moreoften than underwear
[17:30] <psycho> lol
[17:31] <psycho> i tried the instructions 4 the RT2561/RT61 but now it dont work...
[17:31] <Dr_willis> wasent the ra chipset suposed to have gpl drivers?  (i dont keep up with wirless any more.. ive given up on wireless) :)
[17:31] <psycho> joo
[17:31] <psycho> it has gpl drivers
[17:32] <psycho> but something goes wrong
[17:32] <Dr_willis> I just rember a big deal on the RA* having gpl drivers ages ago.. then never could find the cards and then i herd the drivers sucked.. heh heh.
[17:32] <psycho> and i dont know how to find the problem
[17:33] <psycho> is the ndiswrapper running with every driver?
[17:33] <psycho> then i can take the cd
[17:34] <psycho> i only found the instructions 4 this chipset with the gpl driver
[17:37] <BluesKaj> venik, use the restricted driver (8.37) in system settings/advanced.. I have a low end ati X200G onboard and it works better then the ati proprietary recommended driver (8.43), including 3D and DRI
[17:37] <jurgentje> Hi... I've got messed up with my system and I can't figure out how to get it okay again... tons of dependencies seem to be crippled, I guess it's because there's something wrong in my sources.list ... anyhow, is there an easy way to revert my Kubuntu (actually a converted ubuntu) to a default Kubuntu without loosing my "home" folders?
[17:38] <jurgentje> (my release would be Gutsy)
[17:40] <niko_> i don't understand of to start the gui of recordmydesktop....
[17:40] <niko_> where it saves the files???
[17:40] <JohnFlux_> niko_: go to wherever your want it to save the fil
[17:40] <JohnFlux_> file
[17:41] <niko_> okiz
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> niko_: then run:  recordmydesktop  filename
[17:41] <niko_> i found the file....
[17:41] <niko_> yeap
[17:41] <niko_> but
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> by default is out.mpg
[17:41] <niko_> the settings?
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> by default is out.ogg
[17:41] <niko_> out.ogg
[17:41] <niko_> yeap
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> niko_: man recordmydesktop
[17:41] <niko_> but the encoding?
[17:41] <niko_> is slow!!!
[17:41] <niko_> the fremes i mean
[17:41] <niko_> okiz
[17:42] <niko_> frames
[17:45] <mpat> kann mir mal einer helfen?
[17:45] <jembouge> du muss English sprechen
[17:45] <bazhang> !de
[17:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:46] <mpat> danke
[17:48] <venik> blueskj, when I tried that I was told that "Your hardware does not need any proprietary drivers", and none were visible
[17:50] <venik> Blueskj, when I tried to install one manually, X would not start, and I had to edit the xorg.conf to be able to use the machine with a GUI
[17:52] <jurgentje> If I would just download de Kubuntu live CD ... and install it over my current (ubuntu) installation, will it retain my /home data? (especially my documents)
[17:53] <jembouge> jurgentje: the best thing to do when installing is to create a separate partition for your /home directory
[17:54] <jembouge> if you haven't done so, i guess you'd better save everything before you reinstall the whole thing
[17:54] <jembouge> cause it won't keep it
[17:54] <jurgentje> jembouge: it's just ... for some weird reason, my Kubuntu is going nuts on its dependencies and stuff... and I'l like to start over with a clean slate. :/
[17:54] <mpat> neversfelde: can you read my messages?
[17:55] <pastryness> when i installed kubuntu it didnt ask for a root password
[17:55] <pastryness> how do i su into root?
[17:55] <pastryness> or login to root?
[17:55] <jembouge> pastryness: you do not
[17:55] <jembouge> this is special on ubuntu
[17:56] <jembouge> you use sudo
[17:56] <pastryness> but then anyone can do sudo?
[17:56] <jembouge> with the passord of the first user account created
[17:56] <pastryness> ah
[17:56] <pastryness> okay
[17:56] <jembouge> which is the admin
[17:56] <jembouge> if you wanna do more than just one thing as a root
[17:56] <jembouge> type in "sudo -d"
[17:56] <jembouge> oops
[17:56] <jembouge> sudo -s
[17:57] <jembouge> and then, that'll be like "su"
[17:57] <jembouge> sudo is either   "sudo -s"
[17:57] <jembouge> or "sudo mycommand"
[17:57] <jembouge> jurgentje: try deborphan and get rid of all the useless stuff you have
[17:57] <jembouge> reinstall packages
[17:58] <jembouge> i don't know...
[17:58] <jembouge> if I were you I would reinstall everything, but I do use several partitions
[17:58] <jembouge> so I don't have to worry about erasing everything
[17:59] <rance> what is the right way to turn a single hardware sound adapter to several (say 4) virtual sound adapters so that multiple software programs that each take exclusive control of the device can still function  (on freebsd multiple devices are created as in /dev/pcm0.0 /dev/pcm0.1 etc)
[18:00] <install> I had Windows XP on my computer and installed kubuntu but cant see the boot menu. Maby I did't install grub. Can I do it after? I have booted from the live-cd
[18:00] <llutz> !ntfs-3g
[18:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:02] <install> how do I install grub from live-cd after I have installed Win XP on one partition on kubuntu on another. Can't see the boot menu
[18:02] <venik> Blueskaj-- tried to specify the ati card I have (Rage 128), but it did not work with the generic driver.
[18:02] <venik> Things were faster and smoother with 7.04, for some odd reason
[18:06] <mustafa-> türkçe bilen var mı
[18:06] <coreymon77> umm english?
[18:06] <kawa> mustafa
[18:06] <kawa> hi
[18:06] <kawa> :)
[18:07] <mustafa-> hi. can i ask one question. what is the dirrence kubuntu alternate and kubuntu destop
[18:07] <mustafa-> difference*
[18:07] <coreymon77> mustafa-: alternate is a text installer
[18:07] <coreymon77> mustafa-: desktop is the livecd
[18:08] <mustafa-> ok. thanks.
[18:08] <coreymon77> wow
[18:08] <coreymon77> why is freenode so dead right now
[18:08] <CrocoJet> exist some kind of bug new version flashplugin in Kubuntu gutsy ?
[18:08] <coreymon77> nobody is talking in any of the channels im in
[18:09] <CrocoJet> coreymon77, we are two .. than
[18:09] <coreymon77> huh?
[18:09] <CrocoJet> do you use kubuntu ?
[18:10] <coreymon77> ya
[18:10] <coreymon77> of course
[18:10] <CrocoJet> gutsy version ?
[18:10] <coreymon77> yes
[18:10] <CrocoJet> did you make install flashplugin ?
[18:10] <coreymon77> i apt installed flash
[18:11] <CrocoJet> I cant get success with install ... flash
[18:11] <CrocoJet> ah . use konqueror or firefox ?
[18:11] <coreymon77> !info flash]
[18:11] <ubotu> Package flash does not exist in gutsy
[18:11] <coreymon77> !info flashplugin
[18:11] <ubotu> Package flashplugin does not exist in gutsy
[18:11] <CrocoJet> ouch !
[18:11] <coreymon77> is flash on apt?
[18:11] <coreymon77> !flash
[18:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:11] <ahmad> hey folks
[18:11] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[18:11] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:12] <ahmad> i have a problem in my Adept Manager
[18:12] <ahmad> is there any one who can help ?!
[18:12] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: there you go
[18:12] <CrocoJet> I think that adept manager is full bugs
[18:12] <coreymon77> ahmad: not if you dont tell us what the problem is
[18:13]  * coreymon77 agrees with CrocoJet
[18:13] <CrocoJet> may be .. better try 7.04 Kubuntu
[18:13] <coreymon77> thats why i just use cmdline apt
[18:13] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: why?
[18:14] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: why use feisty?
[18:14] <CrocoJet> coreymon77, thats explain my problems .. adept !!
[18:14] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: what about it
[18:14] <CrocoJet> more stable .. I think
[18:14] <ahmad> coreymon77 : i started to upgrade the system .. and then it stopped ..  and when  i try to run the Adept again it refuses telling me that Another process is using the packaging system database
[18:14] <CrocoJet> ahmad, happen here also
[18:14] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: adept has nothing to do with make
[18:14] <coreymon77> ahmad: the database is locked
[18:15] <ahmad> and what is the solution !?
[18:15] <coreymon77> !aptfix | ahmad
[18:15] <ubotu> ahmad: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:15] <coreymon77> ahmad: that should work
[18:15] <coreymon77> ahmad: make sure that adept is not still running though first
[18:16] <ahmad> i would like to know what is the reason for that ?!
[18:16] <deeploy> hello
[18:16] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree gutsy-backports
[18:16] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:16] <coreymon77> ahmad: only one proccess can use the apt database at a time
[18:16] <Jucato> hm..
[18:17] <coreymon77> ahmad: when a process is using it, it locks the databse so that no other process can use it
[18:17] <coreymon77> ahmad: the process removes the lock when it is done, but when something like adept crashes
[18:17] <deeploy> is there anyone who can help me ?
[18:17] <coreymon77> ahmad: the lock isnt removed, therefore that happens
[18:17] <pastryness> how do i update the available programs?
[18:18] <coreymon77> ahmad: that command removes the lock
[18:18] <coreymon77> pastryness: through apt? sudo apt-get update
[18:18] <ahmad> coreymon77 : thank you so so so much
[18:18] <coreymon77> deeploy: not if you dont tell us what the problem is
[18:18] <pastryness> with kde
[18:18] <Jucato> pastryness: 2 ways: 1) you will be automatically notified if there are updates to installed programs. you will see an icon in your panel informing you of that. you can just click on it and use the updater
[18:18] <coreymon77> ahmad: no problem
[18:18] <ahmad> coreymon77 : how can you know these solutions ?!
[18:19] <coreymon77> ahmad: experience
[18:19] <Jucato> pastryness: 2) you can manually check if there are updates using Adept Manager (in K Menu -> System)
[18:19] <coreymon77> ahmad: best way to learn this stuff, have it happen to you, then when you fix it
[18:19] <coreymon77> ahmad: you know what to tell others
[18:19] <Jucato> (or just watch as others helplessly ask for help and get helped by others)
[18:20] <coreymon77> ahmad: the reason i know alot about getting wireless working is because of all the countless hours ive spent getting it to work for me
[18:20] <ahmad> but the probelm that i cann't memorize this commands .. should i gather it in a file or something !!
[18:20] <coreymon77> ahmad: you shouldnt need to use that command often
[18:21] <coreymon77> ahmad: the lock is normally removed automatically
[18:21] <CrocoJet> ahmad, I am making download of Kubuntu 7.04 .. may be more stable .. than 7.10
[18:21] <CrocoJet> gutsy .. suck a lots with bugs
[18:21] <coreymon77> ahmad: stuff like apt commands, ive just used them so much that ive memorized them
[18:21] <CrocoJet> if no sucess with 7.04 ... I will return to fedora 7
[18:22] <ahmad> 7.04 is more stable ?!
[18:22] <coreymon77> i dont think so
[18:22] <coreymon77> i like gutsy
[18:22] <CrocoJet> I dont know .. but 7.10 is so so
[18:22] <coreymon77> ahmad: that apt database thing will happen in 7.04 too
[18:23] <CrocoJet> 7.04 is Feisty Fawn
[18:23] <CrocoJet> 7.10 is gutsy
[18:23] <CrocoJet> (nickname, I think)
[18:23] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: yes, i know that
[18:23] <coreymon77> anything that is not a LTS release is bound to have bugs in it
[18:23] <CrocoJet> coreymon77, explaining to ahmad
[18:24] <CrocoJet> ouch !!!
[18:24] <coreymon77> anyways
[18:24] <CrocoJet> really ?
[18:24] <coreymon77> ya
[18:24] <tlayton> can anyone help on a kde 4 rc1 error on hardy?
[18:24] <svenne> Swedish everyone??
[18:24] <CrocoJet> too bad
[18:24] <CrocoJet> :(
[18:24] <coreymon77> tlayton: hardy is very experimental
[18:24] <CrocoJet> what is main difference 7.04 and 7.10 ?
[18:24] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: a kde rc on top of a ver unstable hardy is bound to have problems
[18:25] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: bug fixes
[18:25] <ahmad> this is the question i was about to ask :D
[18:25] <coreymon77> anyways
[18:25] <coreymon77> i have to go
[18:25] <coreymon77> class time
[18:25] <CrocoJet> ah ok
[18:25] <coreymon77> bye
[18:25] <CrocoJet> ok, thanks information
[18:25] <tlayton> well, this error iv'e been having since beta 3 on gutsy
[18:25] <coreymon77> Jucato: take care of them, will ya?
[18:25] <Jucato> if I can manage to stay awake
[18:25] <Jucato> Fri Dec  7 02:25:39 PHT 2007
[18:25] <svenne> Svensk någon skulle behöva hjälp
[18:26] <Jucato> !se
[18:26] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[18:27] <ahmad> why i imagine that the 1 CD - type of linux seems less stable than the other 1 - DVD distros ?! :D
[18:27] <tlayton> my hardy is actually stable. i was just hoping to try kde 4. there's a thread in the hardy development forum in which it works.
[18:28] <tlayton> well, here's the error message if anyone can help: "dolphin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv"
[18:33] <mrmonday> is it possible to get kubuntu to run an application using default gtk settings instead of kde/whatever kubuntu uses?
[18:34] <Dr_willis> you mean the default gtk theme?
[18:34] <kawa__> for dounload repo..
[18:34] <kawa__> supo adapter...
[18:34] <kawa__> sudo
[18:34] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, probably
[18:34] <osman47> !de
[18:34] <Dr_willis> The kde theme manager/settings has a checkbox to theme GTK/Gnome apps with the KDE theme I thought.
[18:35] <osman47> !de
[18:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:35] <Dr_willis> Used to be the you had gtk apps looking all different from the KDE ones.. got sort of ugly after a while.
[18:37] <pastryness>  my adept manager>updates>kubuntu updates check boxes are grayed out and i cant select them, why?
[18:38]  * mrmonday tries
[18:39] <pastryness> anyone? plz? i cant click the recommended updates checkbox :/
[18:41] <BluesKaj> pastryness, close adept and do a ' sudo apt-get update ' in the Konsole , then try again
[18:42] <pastryness> okay, i'll try that
[18:43] <pastryness> okay
[18:43] <pastryness> i did that
[18:44] <pastryness> my adept is still the same
[18:45] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | pastryness
[18:45] <ubotu> pastryness: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:48] <pastryness> things are still the same
[18:49] <pastryness> let me take a screenshot
[18:52] <pastryness> mmm
[18:54] <_nix_> hello everybody..
[18:54] <JohnFlux_> what uses wtmp?
[18:54] <ahmad> hello _nix_
[18:55] <popogge> what are you guys using for an irc klient? i dont like konversation klient
[18:55] <pastryness> hmmm
[18:56] <pastryness> my knetworkmanager is also showeing no active device, even though i can access the internet fine
[18:56] <_nix_> I created a trackerless torrent in ktorrent (2.2.4) and added my IP and port number in it. However the torrent is not downloading from a friends place who's using utorrent.
[18:56] <_nix_> popogge: I'm using irssi
[18:57] <_nix_> popogge: u can send /ctcp <nick> version to check out what client is being used
[19:10] <niko_> hi to all
[19:10] <niko_> how can i install xwinwrap?
[19:14] <smooker> hi all :)
[19:15] <Xcell> .
[19:16] <smooker> kubuntu seems to be verry stable OS and im so happy to use it :) where i can see my uptime fromt the reboot to now ?
[19:17] <StevenR> smooker: type uptime in a terminal
[19:17] <pastryness> my sound card is 5.1, how can i configure it? the kmix options are so limited
[19:17] <smooker>  21:18:15 up 21:58,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 what load average means ?
[19:17] <StevenR> smooker: 19:17:17 up 2 days, 22:55,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00   forexample (that box had a kernel update this week)
[19:18] <StevenR> smooker: it's a general measure of how loaded your system is.
[19:18] <StevenR> smooker: the numbers are the 1min, 5min and 15min averages. They're based on a number of factors, including swap, disk, cpu, memory usage.
[19:19] <niko_> nothing on install xwinwrap?
[19:20] <smooker> interest.. on my kubuntu before i see no swap usage, only physical mem  less than 10% of my 2gb ram i think thats verry good :)
[19:21] <xaa> my kicker crashed, i try dcop kicker kicker restart - itll come back up but crash instantly. anyone have anysuggestions?
[19:22] <StevenR> smooker: yeah. your load averages are tiny. Your system is doing fine.
[19:22] <niko_> XWinWrap???
[19:22] <niko_> (join #compiz
[19:25] <johnficca> Hi I'm getting this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found...what should I install to fix?
[19:25] <StevenR> install qt-devel probably
[19:29] <johnficca> what are the kde headers called?
[19:30] <kubuntux> #kubuntu.kde
[19:31] <vajk> hello all
[19:33] <nalioth> johnficca: you mean like kde-devel or something?
[19:33] <vajk> does anyone know when will be the repos updated to the new ati driver which supports AIGLX?
[19:33] <kawa__> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[19:33] <kawa__> :?
[19:34] <kawa__> :°°
[19:34] <johnficca> nalioth: yeah I found it thanks
[19:34] <niko_> kawa
[19:34] <niko_> have u modified the source list?
[19:34] <kawa__> boh
[19:35] <kawa__> i'm stupid for kubuntu :°°
[19:49] <aodhagan> started running Hardy about a week ago and ran into a bug that doesn't seem to be on launchpad.net.  The icons on my deskop are showing the / folder instead of /home/usr/Desktop/  anyone else seen this?
[20:00] <mm_work> Is there a way to have a script execute when unlocking kubuntu? (eg, after a suspend or lock)
[20:01] <sigma> hmmm not to sure about that, did you try google it
[20:02] <mm_work> I think that I did in the past, but I'll try again.  If I find something, I'll report back to here just in case someone else would find it useful.
[20:02] <sigma> has anyone gotten the tv out working on the ati mobility 9000?
[20:02] <sigma> what exactly do you want to execute
[20:03] <mm_work> sigma: I just want to restate ntp.  Everytime my laptop goes to sleep and comes back up, ntp loses its connections and just basically dies.
[20:04] <mm_work> I know that I can setup a cron job to restart it every hour, but I'd rather just have it restarted when the system is unlocked
[20:04] <sigma> mm_work: what is ntp?
[20:05] <mm_work> hmmm, actually, I think a better question/request would be if its possible to execute a script on a network connection coming up.
[20:05] <mm_work> ntp = network time protocol.
[20:05] <mehdi> hi everybody
[20:05] <sigma> ok can't say i have alot of experience in that
[20:06] <sigma> hi mehdi
[20:06] <mehdi> want to ask help about installing compiz-fusion
[20:06] <podr0znik> hi all :)
[20:06] <mehdi> hi sigma
[20:06] <mehdi> would you like to help me ?? sigma
[20:07] <mehdi> dont have an idea about installin 3D desktop (compiz)
[20:07] <podr0znik> Is "explaining what a certain error means" someone's greatest hobby over here?
[20:07] <sigma> mehdi: what appears to be the prob? i managed to get compiz fusion up on kubuntu 7.10
[20:08] <ScorpKing> !compiz | mehdi
[20:08] <ubotu> mehdi: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:08] <sigma> lol podr0znik, google would prob be best for that, but which app is it?
[20:08] <mehdi> i dont have kubuntu 7.10
[20:09] <podr0znik> sigma: Dolphin, the normal explorer basically
[20:09] <podr0znik> I have put back all files from a DVD (documents etc)
[20:09] <sigma> mehdi: should still be + - the same instructions (why haven't you upgraded yet?)
[20:09] <podr0znik> and now I get an error every time when I *close* this window (for the rest it works fine)
[20:09] <mehdi> want to ask about possibility and compatibility between compiz and ATI display card ???
[20:09] <podr0znik> can I copy/paste this error here?
[20:09] <mehdi> no i did not upgrade
[20:10] <ScorpKing> !paste | podr0znik
[20:10] <ubotu> podr0znik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:10] <sigma> podr0znik, dolphin is hopeless, why not switch back to konqueror and uninstall dolphin?
[20:10] <mehdi> i fear of having trouble with the upgrade
[20:10] <podr0znik> sigma, I hate konqueror as an internet browser but as local browser it should be fine actually
[20:11] <sigma> mehdi: you'll be surprised, its alot more stable than feisty, with lots of bug fixes
[20:11] <podr0znik> ScorpKing, thank you for the explanation, makes sense
[20:11] <ScorpKing> np
[20:11] <sigma> podr0znik, dolphin isn't a internet browser, just use firefox for internet browsing
[20:11] <podr0znik> sigma, of course :)
[20:12] <mehdi> sigma do i have to have  a specific source list to upgrade to 7.10 ???
[20:12] <podr0znik> do I just change it in settings somehow that default file browser is konqueror instead of dolphin?
[20:12] <sigma> mehdi, i don't believe in physically upgrading, i just format and re-install, helps to avoid issues
[20:13] <sigma> podr0znik, yup let me walk you through it, do u know how to get into the kde control center?
[20:13] <mehdi> ahha ok you are right ...sigma
[20:13] <podr0znik> just the system settings you mean?
[20:13] <podr0znik> I'm there now
[20:13] <mehdi> sigma do you think that s no problem between ATI dsiplay card and compiz ??
[20:14] <sigma> podr0znik, nope rather use the control center, click run command and type in kcontrol
[20:14] <podr0znik> ok
[20:14] <sigma> mehdi: well honestly i haven't been impressed with ati driver support in ubuntu
[20:15] <sigma> which card do u have?
[20:15] <_ede_> join #kubuntu-devel
[20:15] <mehdi> aha so i dont have to try that so ? sigma
[20:15] <sigma> podr0znik, click on "kde components", then "file associations"
[20:16] <sigma> mehdi: always worth a try
[20:16] <sigma> podr0znik, did u get there - its on the left hand menu
[20:16] <podr0znik> d
[20:16] <mehdi> thx sigma
[20:16] <sigma> mehdi: no prob
[20:16] <mehdi> where are you from sigma ???
[20:16] <mehdi> i m from Tunisia
[20:17] <sigma> mehdi: south africa, land of mark shuttleworth:)
[20:17] <podr0znik> erm, should I know him?
[20:17] <sigma> podr0znik, ok click on "inode" and then directory
[20:17] <podr0znik> ah ok, the rest is clear I think
[20:17] <mehdi> sigma ah ok welll we are from the same continent
[20:17] <podr0znik> move konqueror up and done?
[20:17] <mehdi> Africa
[20:18] <sigma> podr0znik, then on the left move konq up or just remove dolphin
[20:18] <sigma> mehdi: where did u hear about kubuntu?
[20:18] <sigma> podr0znik, you need to do it for system_directory in inode as well
[20:18] <podr0znik> ok, problem solved - no error in konqueror
[20:19] <mehdi>  a freind tell me about it , and i studie a linux module
[20:19] <podr0znik> in system_directory there is no Dolphin anymore already
[20:19] <mehdi> theu use Fedora in my university but i choose Kubuntu
[20:19] <sigma> podr0znik, oh ok, just to be safe you may want to remove dolphin from add remove programs
[20:19] <podr0znik> you know what, this kubuntu is really so intuitional...
[20:20] <podr0znik> but some things are difficult to find without help
[20:20] <mehdi> sigma ok have to go to try that thing
[20:20] <sigma> mehdi: i see, interesting
[20:20] <mehdi> sigma  thx
[20:20] <podr0znik> I just installed Skype, I remember how I was fighting with that in 7.04
[20:20] <podr0znik> now it's 3 mouse clicks :)
[20:20] <sigma> podr0znik, yup its all there you just need to find it
[20:20] <sigma> lol
[20:21] <podr0znik> a friend has a laptop with a broken port, Windows was having system jams (of course!)
[20:21] <podr0znik> I told her - are you surprised about that?
[20:21] <podr0znik> I told her to run kubuntu once from cd... while booting there was a text "Something bad happened." and the system just went on as if nothing happened ;)
[20:21] <sigma> as linux gets more popular, more apps will become linux friendly, its happening with the games already
[20:22] <podr0znik> indeed
[20:22] <podr0znik> and I think (k)ubuntu are doing a big job there
[20:22] <podr0znik> 'cause this is exactly how to make linux popular
[20:22] <podr0znik> (I mean - for the non IT-people)
[20:22] <sigma> podr0znik, sometimes it doesn't work with laptops, they are very picky
[20:22] <podr0znik> people are just scared that they can't manage with linux, then when I show them kubuntu they are amazed that it works easier than Windows
[20:22] <podr0znik> indeed
[20:23] <sigma> podr0znik, yup especially with mark shuttleworth  behind it gives the project huge amounts of leverage because of the respect he has in the IT industry
[20:24] <sigma> podr0znik, people will always complain, especially because its free
[20:24] <podr0znik> ok, so now I know that I indeed SHOULD know Mark Shuttleworth
[20:24] <sigma> lol he did fund the creation of your OS after all
[20:24] <Lynoure> I did not pay any attention to Mr. Shuttleworth before Ubuntu
[20:25] <podr0znik> I was doing the MCSE study someday and the teacher was telling me bs that linux was more expensive than Windows because it demanded more hours of work for system administrators
[20:25] <podr0znik> but hey, he was paid by Microsoft to say that of course ;)
[20:25] <sigma> Lynoure: to be honest i never knew he existed even after he made his billions
[20:25] <sigma> i heard about his when he went into space
[20:26] <sigma> podr0znik, lol yup they are rather scared because linux isn't that toy it used to be, nows its a serious hard working operating system
[20:27] <pastryness> how do i check my graphics card?
[20:27] <sigma> pastryness: what exactly do u want to know about it?
[20:27] <pastryness> what it is :<
[20:27] <pastryness> i dont know what my graphics card is
[20:27] <Lynoure> pastryness: try  lspci
[20:28] <pastryness> sweet thanks
[20:28] <Don_Koxone> hello
[20:28] <sigma> i downloaded some manuals from the shuttleworth organisation - it teaches linux from the command line up - things click faster when you learn it that way
[20:29] <sigma> but i hear hardy is getting pretty much a full facelift (in ubuntu not too sure about kubuntu) so it seems one step further towards a completely user friendly OS
[20:30] <podr0znik> sigma, I think so too that it would still be good to learn the command line stuff
[20:31] <sigma> yup its the only way to fully understand it
[20:31] <podr0znik> anyway, I have another small issue, maybe you also have a suggestion for that
[20:31] <podr0znik> I copied back all my documents, including a number of spreadsheets which I use very often, and after the clean install to 7.10 the fonts changed drastically
[20:31] <Lynoure> commandline is not necessarily used-infriedly... let's e.g. compare lspci there with finding the same info in gui...
[20:31] <sigma> after all, the GUI apps in kde and Gnome all operate directly some way or the other off the command line
[20:31] <Lynoure> s/infriedly/unfriendly
[20:31] <podr0znik> very small letters I have now, while the documents' size is bigger (doesn't fit on A4 anymore)
[20:31] <sigma> good point
[20:32] <podr0znik> sigma, indeed, that's why it's GUI
[20:32] <sigma> lol
[20:32] <sigma> now back 2 your problem
[20:33] <sigma> did you have any fonts installed in 7.04 that you didn't re-install in 7.10
[20:33] <podr0znik> nothing what was not standard in 7.04
[20:33] <podr0znik> but I must say I was always using the font "Verdana'
[20:33] <podr0znik> I got used to it in Windows and kept using it, although I'm not sure if 7.04 had that font at all
[20:33] <sigma> now back 2 your proble
[20:33] <sigma> ignore that
[20:34] <vincent_> hi
[20:34] <sigma> hmmm ya you may want to install that font
[20:34] <vincent_> how do i enable compisiting in kde4?
[20:34] <sigma> hi vincent, got a question?
[20:34] <sigma> vincent_ you mean compiz fusion (desktop effects)?
[20:34] <vincent_> no
[20:35] <vincent_> i mean kwin4
[20:35] <sigma> oh sorry didnt see kde4
[20:36] <sigma> hmmm not too sure, very few have tried kde4, when i did i couldn't enable them, rather wait for the final release
[20:36] <sigma> 11 jan i think
[20:36] <sigma> podr0znik: did installing the font work for you?
[20:36] <emilsedgh> vincent_: there is an option
[20:36] <podr0znik> sigma, trying to find out how to do it ;)
[20:37] <emilsedgh> vincent_: in systemSettings->Desktop or SystemSettings->Windows i think, lemme see
[20:37] <Lynoure> it's worth trying if you want to port something to it... other than that, it's either too late or too early.
[20:37] <Lynoure> (too late to get it change much, too early for it to be fun to use)
[20:37] <sigma> podr0znik: just use the font installer in system settings or kcontrol, make sure you install it as a system-wide font
[20:38] <emilsedgh> vincent_: its in SystemSettings->Appearance->Windows
[20:38] <sigma> emilsedgh: i went there but it was greyed out
[20:38] <emilsedgh> oh sorry
[20:38] <emilsedgh> its in systemsettings->Desktop
[20:39] <emilsedgh> 'Enable Desktop Effects'
[20:39] <sigma> emilsedgh: are they like the compiz fusion effects?
[20:39] <podr0znik> sigma, I'm in there now, I see many fonts and a button "Add fonts..."
[20:39] <podr0znik> that button makes me search on my system for a font
[20:39] <emilsedgh> sigma: they are good, you have expose, explode, zoom and many others, but they are not that chunky-munky yet!
[20:39] <sigma> lol
[20:39] <sigma> podr0znik hang on a sec, im going in there
[20:40] <podr0znik> thx :)
[20:40] <vincent_> emilsedgh: cant find it
[20:40] <Mistical> podr0znik: wouldn't it be fixed by letting him install the msttcorefonts package?
[20:40] <sigma> podr0znik: click on administrator mode, then add fonts, then search for it and install it
[20:41] <emilsedgh> vincent_: run this: kcmshell4 kwincompositing
[20:41] <sigma> you'll have to login as admin of course:)
[20:41] <podr0znik> yes, and the font must be on the hard disk I suppose
[20:41] <sigma> emilsedgh: sounds good, is there anything like the compiz cube? i like compiz but it doesn't gel too well in kwin
[20:42] <emilsedgh> sigma: no, there is another effect for viewing all desktops, but no thats not like Cube
[20:42] <sigma> podr0znik: nope it will copy it to the right folder, so off removable media is fine as well
[20:42] <podr0znik> ok, let me try to find it online
[20:42] <sigma> emilsedgh: ah ok what does that effect do?
[20:43] <sigma> emilsedgh: what graphics card did u use and did u use kubuntu on kde4?
[20:43] <emilsedgh> sigma: shows all desktops altogether! there are many videos in youtube showin kwin compositing (but they are old)
[20:43] <sigma> emilsedgh: ah i see
[20:43] <emilsedgh> sigma: im on an intel graphic card, and im on kubuntu but from svn, not packages
[20:44] <sigma> podr0znik: you should just keep it as a backup, i keep all the ms fonts (only thing i have left from windows)
[20:44] <sigma> emilsedgh: i tried the opensuse live cd, didnt work 2well. not sure if that should surprise me or not:)
[20:45] <podr0znik> so a MS font can be used for linux also, that's nice :)
[20:45] <emilsedgh> sigma: dont except that much for 4.0
[20:45] <podr0znik> I didn't have this issue before, so that's why I don't have the ms-font somewhere stored
[20:45] <sigma> podr0znik: yup any true type font and some other types too
[20:46] <podr0znik> cool
[20:46] <sigma> emilsedgh: why u say that? i like the oxygen theme the best
[20:46] <Lynoure> sigma: the theme is a minor part of it all...
[20:47] <emilsedgh> sigma: oxygen theme has many issues and kde4 is not the oxygen theme! there are many parts, maybe oxygen is 1/10
[20:47] <podr0znik> hm, an .exe file?
[20:47] <podr0znik> weird
[20:47] <sigma> emilsedgh: always good to know:) the new amarok looks cool and so does konquerro, i still prefer it over dolphin as file manager
[20:48] <sigma> podr0znik: what a font as a exe file?
[20:48] <pastryness> how do i check the size of my video card?
[20:48] <pastryness> i dont know how big it is :<
[20:48] <podr0znik> yeah
[20:48] <Lynoure> pastryness: What line did you get from lspci for it?
[20:48] <Xcell> 4x6.5
[20:48] <Xcell> j/k
[20:49] <pastryness> nVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT]
[20:49] <emilsedgh> sigma: the New amarok is yes, good, and Konqueror hm, there are changes that i dont like on it, but i am hoping for post 4.0 releases :)
[20:49] <sigma> podr0znik: maybe its one of those self extracting files. or a virus, but then again you are on linux so no worries
[20:49] <Xcell> Paste bin the results so some one can look at it.
[20:49] <sigma> podr0znik: is there no windows pc around that you can swipe it off?
[20:50] <sigma> emilsedgh: do u use konqueror for web browsing?
[20:50] <emilsedgh> sigma: yes.i cant look at firefox!
[20:51] <sigma> emilsedgh: whats wrong with firefox? i dont like how konq draws webpages
[20:51] <Lynoure> pastryness: that's all? It's a quite old card, then...
[20:51] <emilsedgh> sigma: web browsing mode is good,khtml is improved, but filemanagement mode is a little bit weak...but not changed so much
[20:51] <podr0znik> no, no such computer here :)
[20:51] <podr0znik> but I'll be fine
[20:51] <Xcell> If konq has (no script) like ff i would ditch ff in a heart beat.
[20:51] <Lynoure> pastryness: late 90s, huh?
[20:52] <sigma> podr0znik: well when you come across one just copy it from the \windows\font folder
[20:52] <emilsedgh> sigma: for me, khtml renders better than gecko and i see many sites that gecko cannot render but khtml does.there is only gmail and yahoo and 1-2 like them, but i use kmail.also konqueror is superfast and light.firefox is heavy and slow.eats my memory!
[20:52] <Lynoure> pastryness: 16MB, in that case, probably.
[20:52] <DjDarkman> hy, I selected all kde4 packagees
[20:52] <DjDarkman> and tried to install them
[20:52] <DjDarkman> but I get errors
[20:53] <DjDarkman> Unpacking kde4base-data (from .../kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[20:53] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[20:53] <DjDarkman>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/kuiserver.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
[20:53] <sigma> emilsedgh: everyone says firefox is heavy, i don't experience that at all
[20:53] <DjDarkman> what should I do about it?
[20:53] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: oh that.
[20:53] <Lynoure> !brokenkde4
[20:53] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[20:53] <pastryness> :<
[20:53] <emilsedgh> sigma: maybe thats because you never tried Konqueror.but i was a firefox user too.Browser is just a habit, try to use konqueror for one week and then you cannot go back to Firefox
[20:54] <Lynoure> pastryness: but, unless you are hoping for 3d games, it will probably be quite ok, anyway
[20:54] <emilsedgh> sigma: specially if you use ssh, ftp and such services and you maintaint websites, KDE and specially Konqueror, really Rocks!
[20:54] <DjDarkman> Lynoure: won`t work
[20:55] <sigma> emilsedgh: i think i used konq in 7.04, hated what it looked like. but il try it out again, maybe the latest fixes have resolved my issues
[20:55] <DjDarkman> how can I cancel the installation of the problematic packagees?
[20:55] <sigma> i have a apache server installed, maybe i should give it a try
[20:55] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: usually it just ends in error, and they don't get installed
[20:55] <emilsedgh> sigma: KDE3 default settings usually are very bad.change applications settings and then they will rock!
[20:55] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: more detail on the "won't work" please
[20:56] <DjDarkman> Package kdebase-workspace is not installed, so not removed
[20:56] <DjDarkman> Package kdebase-runtime is not installed, so not removed
[20:56] <DjDarkman> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[20:56] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: sounds good, still
[20:56] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: try installing again?
[20:57] <DjDarkman> the problem is that I think I accidently put kde4 beta on istallation
[20:57] <DjDarkman> same error
[20:57] <Lynoure> but, if it tells you to do apt-get -f install, that's usually a good idea, then the romeve command again, then install again
[20:57] <Lynoure> s/romeve/remove
[20:57] <sigma> emilsedgh: which settings are u referring to?
[20:57] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: or just try the livecd :)
[20:58] <DjDarkman> the install gives the error so it doesn`t do anything
[20:58] <emilsedgh> sigma: all the settings, kde apps are highly configurable, little things that really change the taste
[20:59] <DjDarkman> the problem is that apt wants to install kde4 beta and rc1 at the same time
[20:59] <DjDarkman> how can I cancel the installation of the beta?
[20:59] <sigma> emilsedgh: taking a look at my internal wiki on it, it does look a whole lot better now!
[20:59] <emilsedgh> hehe
[20:59] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: Where are you installing it from? Prune your sources.list, then do apt-get update again
[21:00] <sigma> emilsedgh: now i remember why i switched to firefox, konq kept on crashing on certain pages - must have been a khtml bug in feisty
[21:00] <emilsedgh> sigma: aah, maybe.its so stable now...
[21:00] <DjDarkman> Lynoure: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[21:00] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: that's rc1, where are you getting "the beta"?
[21:01] <emilsedgh> sigma: if it crashed for you on a page, give me a link to try it
[21:01] <Xcell> hardy is beta
[21:01] <sigma> emilsedgh: ok well il use it and let u know
[21:01] <Xcell> right?
[21:01] <DjDarkman> Lynoure: I think it`s from the ubuntu repositories, since I don`t have any third party added
[21:01] <emilsedgh> thasnk sigma
[21:01] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: uh, oh, if you are on hardy, I think I'll let you be :)
[21:01] <DjDarkman> exept for the one noted on kubuntu.org
[21:01] <DjDarkman> no I`m on gutsy
[21:02] <sigma> Xcell: what is so new in hardy? i read the review on the wiki, didnt sound so exciting
[21:02] <DjDarkman> http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[21:02] <Xcell> I know/prolly just looks.
[21:02] <stdin> DjDarkman: what packages do you think are the beta ones?
[21:02] <emilsedgh> sigma: it was so nice to talk to you, bye for now
[21:02] <sigma> bye bye
[21:02] <sigma> how do you disable images for some websites but not others in konqueror?
[21:03] <sigma> they have that feature in firefox and i really need it
[21:04] <DjDarkman> kde4-workspace I think
[21:04] <Xcell> Konq needs (no script) to.
[21:04] <DjDarkman> Unpacking kde4base-data (from .../kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[21:04] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[21:04] <DjDarkman>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/kuiserver.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
[21:04] <sigma> Xcell: was that for me?
[21:05] <Xcell> He clicked on the new version..lol.
[21:05] <DjDarkman> what is kdebase-runtime-data ?
[21:05] <Xcell> no..was just saying.
[21:05] <stdin> DjDarkman: that's not trying to install the beta, you already installed the beta and you need to remove it
[21:05] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | DjDarkman, use this
[21:05] <ubotu> DjDarkman, use this: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[21:06] <DjDarkman> stdin: tried that but it doesn`t work because of dependency problems
[21:07] <DjDarkman> but how can I remove the beta if apt-get remove doesn`t work?
[21:07] <stdin> DjDarkman: just add the packages to the end of the command
[21:07] <stdin> DjDarkman: if it says "package-foo Depends: package-bar..." then add "package-foo" to the end of the same command
[21:08] <DjDarkman> ahhh I get it
[21:08] <chrsim> hallo guys! one problem with kde / kubuntu. if make a alt tab i don't see a windows where i can seen all opened windows. how ist this application called so that i can google why there is no such windows
[21:09] <sigma> is there any way to allow images from certain websites in konqueror but not others?
[21:09] <DjDarkman> ok stdin it works, where can I get a list of all the kde4 rc1 packagees?
[21:10] <stdin> DjDarkman: just install the way it says on the announcement
[21:11] <stdin> DjDarkman: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu/pool/main/k/ < is a basically all the kde4 packages I put up, except qtcurve and konversation
[21:11] <DjDarkman> ahhh it works now, I`ve overlooked that
[21:12] <sigma> so theres no way to do that?
[21:25] <pastryness> i did echo "compiz --replace" > ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh
[21:25] <pastryness> how do i undo it?
[21:26] <Flare183> edit the file and remove that line
[21:26] <Flare183> i guess
[21:26] <pastryness> where is that file?
[21:26] <pastryness> :<
[21:27] <djdarkman> man kde4 is realy strange
[21:27] <pastryness> srsly... :/
[21:31] <myk_> hey, i have a friend who has a grub error 18. Everything i can find points to BIOS issues,.. This system has run fine for 6 months. Is there anything other than the BIOS it could be?
[21:31] <uacceri> hi
[21:32] <uacceri> i'm unable to get my wireless card working with kdenetworkmanager
[21:33] <uacceri> i've dlink dwl-g630 and it works with ubuntu (network-manager-gnome)
[21:34] <someon1> when is KDE4's release date?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> myk_, did he recently install another OS ?
[21:36] <BluesKaj> someon1, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[21:43] <Psycoshot> hey whats the chmod command to make a file on exucutable?
[21:43] <Psycoshot> *an
[21:44] <BluesKaj> chmod +x
[21:44] <Psycoshot> Thanxs
[21:44] <BluesKaj> yw
[21:45] <Thylio> how do i mount a UDF volume (cd-r)?
[21:45] <Psycoshot> hoorah
[21:48] <Thylio> how do i read my fstab??
[21:50] <myk_> BluesKaj: sorry, had a phone call.. No, no changes at all
[21:51] <myk_> just all of a sudden, unable to boot due to error 18
[21:51] <Thylio> how do i read/change my fstab??
[21:51] <myk_> Thylio: if you just want to see it:
[21:51] <BluesKaj> myk_, do you have a windows partition as well ?
[21:51] <myk_> cat /etc/fstab
[21:52] <myk_> BluesKaj: no, just Kubuntu
[21:52] <myk_> I set it up for him about 6 months ago
[21:52] <myk_> He has a / partition , a /home partition, and a swap parttition
[21:53] <SeanTater> Thylio: you need to be root (admin) to change it. Use the following to edit then: kdese kwrite /etc/fstab
[21:53] <Thylio> myk_: can u help me mounting my cd-r? I think kubuntu want to mount is as iso9660, but it's udf!
[21:53] <somekool> hi, anyone using uim-anthy with kde applications ?
[21:53] <Thylio> SeanTater: How can i change it,so it will mount?
[21:53] <myk_> thylio, unfortunately, i cannot help with that
[21:53] <SeanTater> Thylio: I've never heard of a CD being udf, but you don;t need to change your fstab for that
[21:54] <myk_> iso9660 is the standard for cdroms, isnt it?
[21:54] <SeanTater> Thylio:  execute sudo mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[21:54] <SeanTater> Thylio: tell me if that works
[21:54] <SeanTater> myk_: yes, it is, but I'm fairly sure k3b and the like have strange options if you dig neep
[21:54] <SeanTater>  /deep/
[21:54] <BluesKaj> myk_, that's a nice setup, the diff partitons ,but sometimes an upgrade can affect it, that what happened to me ...is there a way to post the /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin ?
[21:55] <myk_> i'll have to get with him. Not at his house, he called me earlier today, just trying to do some research
[21:55] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-es
[21:55] <myk_> how can i get the infor you need? I guess i would need to boot from a live cd
[21:55] <Thylio> SeanTater:  2sec, i'll pastebin the all the info..
[21:56] <SeanTater> ubuntu__:  it's easier if you type /join before it
[21:56] <BluesKaj> myk_, yes
[21:56] <myk_> i'll try to do that later. thanks for your time.
[21:56] <BluesKaj> np
[21:56] <SeanTater> Thylio: uh-oh, this does not sound good :-|
[21:57] <HS^> if i download kubuntu now. is it easy to update kde 4 when it arrives?
[21:57] <HS^> and does it already use Qt 4?
[21:57] <Thylio> SeanTater:  Hehe:p  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2515/
[21:58] <somekool> HS^: there is live CD with kde4 rc1 already
[21:59] <somekool> but yes, upgrading should always be a piece of cake with *buntu
[21:59] <HS^> i saw that. but its unstable
[22:00] <HS^> is kubuntu just vanille/standard kde
[22:00] <HS^> standard fonts..
[22:00] <HS^> everything standard
[22:00] <HS^> or tweaked
[22:00] <SeanTater> Thylio: not surprisingly, I'd like to know what dmesg|tail says about the cd drive (I don't need the whole thing). Unfortunately, the same thing happened to me and I had to buy a new cd drive to fix it
[22:01] <Thylio> SeanTater:  wow. that's bad news. This is a laptop.   -.-
[22:02] <SeanTater> Thylio: On the upside, it probably only happens to UDF cd's, and that's (at most) one in a million
[22:02] <SeanTater> Thylio: but out of curiosity, why does this cd have UDF and how do you know?
[22:02] <Thylio> SeanTater: UFD-fs: No fileset found.
[22:03] <melkor> Is anybody running kde 4?
[22:03] <SeanTater> Thylio: It didn;t say much for me either.. But have you tried the same mount command with iso9660 instead?
[22:03] <Thylio> SeanTater: Well  i burned a movie, so i could watch it in bed. Burned in xp.
[22:04] <Thylio> SeanTater: Yeah, get exactly the same message
[22:04] <SeanTater> Hum.. If it's a DVD, I'd expect udf, but I'd consider it highly unlikely it would burn udf by deafult (though I have not used XP much)
[22:05] <pastryness> how can a allow my xmms to play music from my connected computer? when i drag music onto the playlist from a networked computer, it does not play, but when i copy the file over it plays
[22:06] <SeanTater> pastryness: xmms can't usually play over a network, but you can attach the network to your filesystem. read about mounting an NFS or SMB partition.
[22:06] <michele> cao
[22:06] <michele> ciao
[22:06] <pastryness> then what player does?
[22:06] <Thylio> SeanTater: it's a cd-r. i'll try to change to the second cd.
[22:06] <SeanTater> pastryness: Juk, Amarok, Kaffeine, all of those will /probably/ play over a network
[22:08] <Thylio> lol. same shit on the other cd to.    :(
[22:11] <SeanTater> You cound probably copy them from one computer to the other over a network instead of a cd..
[22:12] <pastryness> my kaffiene wont play mp3 :(
[22:12] <SeanTater> Have you installed restrictedformats?
[22:12] <SeanTater> !restrictedformats
[22:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:13] <BluesKaj> pastryness, install libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:14] <Thylio> yeah.  got a portable hdd... sould be a easy fix....   Thx anyway SeanTater!
[22:14] <SeanTater> Thylio: sorry I couldn't help
[22:14] <SeanTater> Thylio: enjoy
[22:24] <gerret> ?
[22:28] <Thylio> Anyone know how to change resolution in terminal, i have fucked up my other comp in an atempt to get dual screen
[22:29] <stdin> Thylio: watch the language
[22:29] <stdin> !xconfig
[22:29] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[22:29] <Thylio> stdin: srry
[22:29] <Thylio> stdin: thx;D
[22:32] <skyfalcon866> can tracker work in kde
[22:33] <pastryness> thanks
[22:33] <pastryness> stil cant stream multimedia files over lan though
[22:34] <MurielGodoi> Hi I am trying to install and setup php4 in my kubuntu desktop, but I got Package php4 is not available, but is referred to by another package. What that means?
[22:35] <Flare183> !php
[22:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:35] <Flare183> use that
[22:35] <stdin> skyfalcon866: it can, but strigi is pre-installed
[22:35] <skyfalcon866> strigi dosent index everything though
[22:36] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: Can't I install lamp in my desktop version? that is for development pourposes
[22:36] <stdin> skyfalcon866: does if you tell it to
[22:36] <Flare183> yeah
[22:36] <skyfalcon866> stdin: .oggs
[22:36] <skyfalcon866> is it like tracker? metadata
[22:38] <eicca> how can I make a sshortcut that when clicked, opens Konsole and uses a command?
[22:40] <TheGateKeeper> eicca, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[22:41] <eicca> already did :)
[22:41] <maverick_> a qauestion out of curiosity , it's not a problem to me....why can;t i launch any GUI capable application when i'm under root user?
[22:41] <maverick_> like kate for Ex. it gives me this output error
[22:41] <maverick_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[22:41] <maverick_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[22:41] <maverick_> kate: cannot connect to X server :0
[22:42] <stdin> maverick_: because only the user that starts the X session can use it. just use "kdesu <application>" to start a GUI as root
[22:42] <maverick_> stdin: thx
[22:44] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: I tried sudo tasksel install lamp-server, but seems locked at wait 0% message.
[22:44] <sparr_w> dolphin sucks.  that is all.
[22:45] <Flare183> it takes a good bit of time
[22:45] <Flare183> Does anybody here use Konversation?
[22:45] <mcrandello> I do I do
[22:46] <Flare183> mcrandello:> do you ever get a message in red?
[22:46] <mcrandello> Yeah, just now ;^_\
[22:46] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: I do
[22:46] <Flare183> I do i that?
[22:46] <mcrandello> whenever someone types your name in the line
[22:46] <mcrandello> Flare183: like this
[22:46] <Flare183> i know but does it do the same for you
[22:47] <Flare183> like this: mcrandello
[22:47] <mcrandello> yep
[22:47] <Flare183> oh ok cool
[22:47] <Flare183> flare183
[22:47] <Flare183> Flare183
[22:47] <mcrandello> It's not a bug or a feature, it's a requirement :^)
[22:47] <Flare183> but i type myself in and it's not red?
[22:47] <Flare183> what gives?
[22:47] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: I tried sudo tasksel install lamp-server, but still seems locked at wait 0% message,  any idea?
[22:47] <mcrandello> also I keep forgetting to type the hash sign when joining channels, and konvo puts it in automatically
[22:48] <Flare183> kk
[22:48] <mcrandello> mcrandello wierd
[22:48] <mcrandello> nope not for me either
[22:48] <Flare183> yeah i know
[22:48] <Flare183> dude just kill it and try again
[22:49] <mcrandello> If you're trying to mark a place in the chat ctrl^R
[22:49] <Flare183> dude watch this
[22:49] <Flare183> !girls
[22:49] <ubotu> Girls don't exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/
[22:49] <Flare183> lol
[22:49] <Flare183> !!
[22:49] <MurielGodoi> mcrandello: nice.. I didn't know that one
[22:49] <Flare183> wow cool
[22:50] <stdin> !botabuse > Flare183
[22:50] <mcrandello> helpful for bathroom and cigarette breaks :)
[22:50] <Flare183> sorry
[22:50] <Flare183> i understand
[22:51] <tashiro> Hello folks
[22:51] <skyfalcon866> how do i tell strigi to index more files
[22:52] <stdin> skyfalcon866: from strigi:/config
[22:52] <HS^> can i burn kubuntu cd edition on a dvd? (i have no cd's left)
[22:52] <stdin> HS^: yes
[22:52] <skyfalcon866> it says add directory not file types
[22:52] <stdin> skyfalcon866: from konqueror ?
[22:52] <skyfalcon866> yes
[22:53] <stdin> skyfalcon866: it should index all file types
[22:53] <mcrandello> anyone know the correct, authoritative way to set up usb to passthrough for virtualization? I've turned on /proc/bus/usb and set all my perms to 664 but there are still issues
[22:53] <tashiro> Id like to be an expert on linux, any sugestions of sites or books i should read?
[22:53] <skyfalcon866> alright
[22:53] <skyfalcon866> thanks
[22:54] <family> what are some good webcam programs?
[22:54] <mcrandello> or alternately, why my portable device would transpose several numbers in its serial number hex string?
[22:54] <family> i tried camorama but it shows my pictures all in blue
[22:54] <mcrandello> (from lsusb versus what the windows vm reports it as. one of them is wrong)
[22:55] <perzyk> witam wszystkich :) mam jeden wielki problem dotyczacy instalacji q3 jesli ktos by mi pomogl bede wdzieczny
[22:55] <ninjagambit> how do you change the clock to show am pm instead of military time
[22:55] <mcrandello> family: that is weird. the pics all have a blue cast or you are getting a solid blue box instead of a picture
[22:55] <mcrandello> ?
[22:55] <family> aww no
[22:56] <stdin> !pl | perzyk
[22:56] <family> i get the picture but its not colored
[22:56] <ubotu> perzyk: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[22:56] <family> the colors are blue
[22:56] <perzyk> przepraszam
[22:56] <family> like my skin is blue my hair is blue my shirt is blue but diffrent shades of blue
[22:57] <pastryness> smbmount //server/my music /home/user/mount-point -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword <--- the share folder name ,"my music" is two words, so the command doesnt work, what do i do?
[22:58] <stdin> pastryness: put a '\' before the space, or just quote it
[22:58] <pastryness> okay let me try
[22:58] <ninjagambit> how do you change the clock
[22:59] <ninjagambit> to display nomaly am pm
[22:59] <ninjagambit> ?
[22:59] <mcrandello> family: there is a color correction option in there that may fix it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/camorama/+bug/78704
[22:59] <ninjagambit> instead of military time like 17:59
[22:59] <family> aww thanks
[22:59] <NightmareCinema> right click on the clock and click date time format
[22:59] <ninjagambit> tried that
[23:00] <ninjagambit> didnt apply to task bar clock
[23:00] <NightmareCinema> Er
[23:00] <NightmareCinema> That's what I did
[23:00] <stdin> ninjagambit: you have to restart kicker for it to apply
[23:00] <stdin> ninjagambit: press Alt-F2 and put in "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[23:00] <[ifr0g]> !find new_tunnel
[23:01] <ubotu> Package/file new_tunnel does not exist in gutsy
[23:01] <mcrandello> family: if that doesn't work there are some other packages mentioned in that bug report, I'm not too familiar with webcam software but I figured it was either a driver causing r/b to swap or at worst a desktop color depth issue
[23:01] <family> aww okay
[23:02] <family> the color correction worked out
[23:02] <ninjagambit> ok  i  tried it again this time geting a promt to restart for changes
[23:03] <family> thank you so much
[23:05] <pastryness> smbmount //server/my music /home/user/mount-point -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword <--- when i do this, will it be mounted everytime i start my linux pc again?
[23:05] <mcrandello> family: glad to help :)
[23:05] <eicca> how can I make a shortcut that opens Konsole and irssi?
[23:05] <eicca> nvm
[23:05] <eicca> :)
[23:06] <family> :)
[23:07] <rcg1984> I keep getting Another process is using the packaging system message every time i open Adept Manager.  I know for a fact there's nothing open to cause that issue.  What should i do now?
[23:08] <stdin> pastryness: no, you have to add "//server/my music /home/user/mount-point smb  username=yourusername,password=yourpassword,auto" to have it mount at boot
[23:08] <stdin> !aptfix | rcg1984
[23:08] <ubotu> rcg1984: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:09] <rcg1984> alright i'll give that a shot. and yes adept crashed earlier
[23:09] <pastryness> stdin: so i just type the same thing to mount it, but just add ",auto" at the end?
[23:10] <stdin> pastryness: almost, the format for /etc/fstab is "thing-to-mount mountpoint type options dump pass"
[23:11] <stdin> pastryness: generally you set "dump" and "pass" to 0
[23:11] <stdin> pastryness: so add a line like: //server/my music /home/user/mount-point smb  username=yourusername,password=yourpassword,auto
[23:11] <pastryness> i dont understand what u just said :/
[23:12] <stdin> pastryness: /etc/fstab is a file that stores what to mount and where, to have the system mount something at boot you need to add a line for it in there
[23:12] <SR_Latch> linux community FTW!
[23:14] <pastryness> okay
[23:14] <pastryness> thanks very much stdin
[23:17] <r0y4l> any ideas how i can fix this openoffice error "Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit"?? :(
[23:18] <SR_Latch> does anyone who has a laptop has a schematic of his motherboard?
[23:19] <SR_Latch> the above ir related with one question in the kubuntu mailing list
[23:22] <SR_Latch> any1?
[23:23] <SR_Latch> there was a guy reporting about a problem with his laptop, stating that his built in button to turn off his wifi card was not working uder kubuntu
[23:24] <SR_Latch> my hypothesis is that these buttons are not related with the wifi card but must be built in on the mobo
[23:24] <mcrandello> I haven't seen a schematic ship with hardware since the 1950's era tube radio my pop gave me :(
[23:24] <SR_Latch> but freaking acer has not responded yet at my inquiry
[23:25] <Xcell> Lol ive been a electronics tech 30+ yrs...that button is prolly ic controlled.
[23:25] <rcg1984> sweet thanks ubotu
[23:26] <mcrandello> SR_Latch: that hypothesis does sound fairly solid I suppose, the wifi card in my cheapo toshiba unplugs and doesn't take the button with it, so it's attached in there somewhere by the mobo
[23:26] <mcrandello> if there's an LED for feedback on the wifi have him press it when the machine is booting, My LED goes on/off at that point. It also works under Linux no prob though.
 yes thats what i mean there is no way atheros for example has a built in swith on the chip
[23:27] <SR_Latch> Xcell what do you mean ic?
[23:27] <Xcell> Data latch looped through software.
[23:28] <mcrandello> some of the pins on the slot it plugs into could be directly routed to the button and LED
[23:28] <SR_Latch> but why a data latch and not a simple power switch?
[23:29] <Xcell> It's called a (jk/flip flop.
[23:29] <SR_Latch> to cut power only in wifi chip?
[23:29] <mcrandello> I suppose the question is what happens when the button is pressed, is the wifi card turned off from within the wifi card, is the bus disconnected physically, is it something in the southbridge?
[23:29] <Xcell> Electronic switch.
[23:29] <stdin> SR_Latch, Xcell, mcrandello: take the conversation #kubuntu-offtopic please
[23:29] <rcg1984> how would I extract files from .rar format?
[23:30] <stdin> !rar
[23:30] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[23:30] <SR_Latch>  <rcg1984>  sudo apt-get unrar
[23:31] <rcg1984> SR_Latch: Thanks
[23:31] <mcrandello> stdin: sorry
[23:31] <nonewmsgs> when rhythmbox "moves to trash" where does it go?" i cant find it in my trash
[23:32] <SR_Latch>  <rcg1984>  you're most welcome
[23:33] <galathalion> i need help with flac
[23:36] <HS^> does kubuntu have decent fonts installed by defaults, or you have to tweak it
[23:36] <whabo> Guys i need to use SKypemate... is there anyway i can actually get skype working with skypemate inorder to use my USB phone??? PLEASE HELP guys
 can i burn kubuntu cd edition on a dvd? (i have no cd's left)
 HS^: yes
[23:38] <HS^> thats not true
[23:38] <stdin> yes it is
[23:39] <HS^> it gives error in nero
[23:39] <stdin> that's nero, I don't use nero
[23:39] <HS^> sorry your compilaton cannot be written on this kind of disc
[23:39] <stdin> choose to burn a DVD image, not a CD image
[23:39] <HS^> please inser a disc of the correct type or modify your settings of your compilation
[23:39] <HS^> i did that
[23:39] <whabo>  Guys i need to use SKypemate... is there anyway i can actually get skype working with skypemate inorder to use my USB phone??? PLEASE HELP guys
[23:40] <stdin> HS^: then choose another burning software, it works fine in K3B so it can be done
[23:41] <pastryness> i must type "echo "//<IP_ADDRESS>/linux /mnt/sharename smbfs  \" and then the same command continues onto a new line... do i just press unter after the \?
[23:41] <pastryness> enter*
[23:41] <pastryness> i dont know how i pressed u insted of e :<
[23:41] <pastryness> u*
[23:41] <HS^> right.. nero is one of the best disc writing softwares
[23:42] <stdin> pastryness: what are you trying to do?
[23:42] <pastryness> http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/windows.html
[23:43] <pastryness> it tells you how to mount at boot up
[23:43] <pastryness> but there is one of the commands that is two lines :/
[23:43] <tchough> whabo: Most of that hardware has really clunky support in Linux.  Your best bet is probably to search http://forum.skype.com/ and ask around on the Linux forum.  Last time I tried, though, I was unable to get my Skype phone hardware to work.
[23:43] <stdin> wow, that's an odd way to do it..
[23:44] <HS^> it finally burns
[23:44] <HS^> is it hard to setup wireless in linux, (i heared this)
[23:44] <stdin> pastryness: just put the line directly into the file, press Alt-f2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" so you can edit it properly
[23:47] <tchough> whabo: If you're somewhat experienced with Linux, you might try the usbb2k-api software.  It's at https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/usbb2k-api/ .  It will probably take some fiddling to get working correctly.
[23:52] <matthew> jj
[23:52] <matthew> exit