[06:09] <levander> gotit: the last column in the output of the "ps -ef" command
[06:09] <roger_> hello this is my first time use linux ubuntu. have only use windows. hope this system is good
[06:09] <yoshig3> jrib: okay, so what does that mean?
[06:10] <ChrisBradley> roger_ it is good.
[06:10] <niru> zebrinha:you want to run any kind of linux on your laptop
[06:10] <levander> gotit: what are the process names in that last column
[06:10] <yoshig3> jrib: I don't have any "emerald"
[06:10] <zebrinha> niru: i am 29 and some times i think to old to start lerning all of this
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> roger_: welcome
[06:10] <mister_roboto> hackomatic
[06:10] <ChrisBradley> roger_ are you using gnome?
[06:10] <jrib> yoshig3: you don't have an emerald icon in the notification area?
[06:10] <roger_> thans
[06:10] <gotit> it says dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and  xserver-xsog.config reconfigure 1:7.1l1ubuntu6
[06:10] <yoshig3> jrib: nope
[06:10] <yoshig3> jrib: just volume.
[06:10] <jrib> yoshig3: how do you run beryl?
[06:10] <roger_> I dont no. Have only install it on pc
[06:11] <yoshig3> jrib: beryl in terminal
[06:11] <gotit> there are no columns screen is 640 by 480 its all messy
[06:11] <jrib> yoshig3: run beryl-manager
[06:11] <levander> in the line that has dpkg-reconfigure in it, what is the second column?  The second column is the process's ID number
[06:11] <levander> gotit: what is in the 2nd column?
[06:11] <ChrisBradley> when you login - do you have a desktop??
[06:11] <niru> zebrinha:Dont take it otherwise I was unable to see your messages so I asked you to follow the procedure
[06:11] <zebrinha> niru: i run ubuntu, i kicked Win few days ago
[06:11] <yoshig3> there goes an emerald
[06:11] <yoshig3> and some shadows
[06:11] <ChrisBradley> sorry for the double ??
[06:11] <niru> zebrinha:so how can i help you?
[06:11] <zebrinha> ok i got
[06:12] <zebrinha> niru: i got
[06:12] <jerp> jrib, if it's loaded you open a terminal and enter beryl-manager (or place that in your sessions ap so it loads on boot)
[06:12] <roger_> I most go to work . I comming back soon
[06:12] <gotit> levander :root 5412
[06:12] <jrib> jerp: thanks
[06:12] <yoshig3> jrib: holy crap
[06:12] <jerp> np
[06:12] <ChrisBradley> Have a good morning / day roger_
[06:12] <yoshig3> jrib: WOW.....this reminds me of vista
[06:12] <levander> gotit: "ps -ef | grep 5412" - how many lines of output?
[06:12] <roger_> thanks
[06:12] <jrib> yoshig3: did you get window decorations with that?
[06:12] <zebrinha> niru: do prog in python?
[06:13] <niru> zebrinha:just learning
[06:13] <zebrinha> ide?
[06:13] <zebrinha> niru: ide?
[06:13] <yoshig3> sweet
[06:13] <yoshig3> I have borders now...awesome
[06:13] <yoshig3> jrib: window decorations? I have red borders now
[06:14] <gotit> levander 15- 20 lines outpe
[06:14] <jrib> yoshig3: yeah, that's what I meant.  Ok go wobble windows now :)
[06:14] <gotit> output
[06:14] <niru> zebrinha:at present none.But once I used winchister
[06:14] <levander> gotit: you did it wrong again, type out the command you put on the command line
[06:14] <yoshig3> jrib: Lol I am
[06:14] <zebrinha> niru: do you use Windows
[06:14] <yoshig3> jrib: i have a question though.....everything is so much laggier now...
[06:14] <gotit> levander: "ps -ef | grep 5412" i am sorry
[06:14] <yoshig3> OWOWOW
[06:14] <niru> zebrinha:not at present
[06:14] <yoshig3> ISSOPRETTY
[06:15] <levander> gotit: okay, try it again
[06:15] <gotit> its not wrong i guess
[06:15] <gotit> ok :)
[06:15] <yoshig3> jrib: is it possible to have intercourse with beryl?
[06:15] <yoshig3> jrib: lol
[06:15] <gotit> same thing again
[06:15] <niru> zebrinha:how good are you in python?
[06:15] <levander> gotit: copy and paste the output to a pastebin, and include the command you typed in
[06:16] <jrib> yoshig3: well you can go inside the cube
[06:16] <brenden> hi
[06:16] <niru> brenden:hello
[06:16] <zebrinha> niru: not to good, what is your favorite prog language
[06:17] <niru> zebrinha:going to become python if I learn in full fledge even I liked Gtk
[06:17] <brenden> LaTeX is usually pronounced [le.tk]  or [l.tk]  in English (that is, not with the [ks]  pronunciation English speakers normally associate with X, but with a voiceless velar plosive like the first sound of "kit"). The last character in the name comes from a capital  (chi), as the name of TeX derives from the Greek  (skill, art, technique); for this reason, TeX's creator Donald Knuth promotes a /tx/
[06:17] <brenden> ;1;1;112;112;1;0x
[06:17] <brenden> oops sorry
[06:17] <gotit> levander: can you plz tell me teh pastebin address
[06:17] <levander> gotit: try pastebin.ca
[06:18] <j-rock> ;1;1;112;112;1;0x
[06:18] <Karark|away> hello
[06:19] <yoshig3> jrib: is it normal that beryl causes everything to lag to hell? Like scrolling and whatnot
[06:19] <CharlieSu> anyone want to help try my denyhosts install?  make a few bad pass attempts on charlie.phunki.com please...
[06:19] <yoshig3> also, is there a way to make the system monitor show overall cpu usage? not just from individual tasks
[06:19] <jrib> yoshig3: what kind of card do you have?
[06:19] <levander> yoshig3: what processor, graphics card, and memory you got?
[06:19] <Karark|away> any idea why xorg takes 100% CPU randomly?
[06:19] <gotit> levander :http://pastebin.ca/276313
[06:19] <levander> yoshig3: got to the performance tab to see that
[06:20] <levander> Karark|away: because you need to restart X
[06:20] <yoshig3> jrib: 2.4Ghz Celeron(poopy), 512MB DDR ram, and a GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB DDR
[06:20] <yoshig3> PCI >.<
[06:20] <Karark|away> levander, i shouldn't need to multiple times a day
[06:20] <jerp> isn't there a tweak for graphic cards memory?
[06:20] <levander> Karark|away: it comes back after you restart it?
[06:21] <Karark|away> levander, yes, it's done this about 10 times now, it seems random
[06:21] <jrib> yoshig3: idk, since I have a crappier card.  You could try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl to see if people with similar cards also have the same experience
[06:21] <yoshig3> jrib: well do you run slow?
[06:21] <RonanCeol> I need some help, running Ubuntu on cd for the first time and after about 2 minutes my mouse cuts out
[06:21] <jrib> yoshig3: yes
[06:21] <yoshig3> jrib: hmm
[06:22] <levander> Karark|away: i think there's some way to use apt-get or dpkg to verify the files are right for a package on the system, may also try reconfiguring xserver-xorg with the dpkg-reconfigure command
[06:22] <jrib> yoshig3: I expected to though, it's a 4yr old laptop
[06:22] <Arastoo> sorry did any thing happened i was disc
[06:22] <levander> Karark|away: just got to play with it till you can narrow it down some
[06:22] <Arastoo> levander:sorry did any thing happened i was disc
[06:22] <yoshig3> jrib: brb
[06:22] <parad0x> Is someone else having issues with x11?
[06:22] <Arastoo> levander its me gotit :)
[06:22] <jrib> !someone | parad0x
[06:22] <ubotu> parad0x: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:23] <parad0x> I just had to do exactly what levander describes, it works.
[06:23] <levander> Arastoo: well, apparently you configured X wrong, try reconfiguring it
[06:23] <Karark|away> levander, i noticed that my xfce weather applet would take over the CPU hogging during and after an xorg restart... any idea?
[06:23] <RonanCeol> I need some help with my mouse, first time running Ubuntu and my mouse dies after about 2 minutes of running it
[06:23] <levander> Arastoo: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a console
[06:23] <parad0x> ubotu: Kindly read what I said. Thank you. :)
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Kindly read what I said. Thank you. :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <levander> Arastoo: Alt-F7 to get back to X-Windows
[06:23] <bgt> hello
[06:23] <parad0x> Haha
[06:24] <ubox> :D
[06:24] <parad0x> Even worse, I'm on the wrong server. I lost my config. Pardon me.
[06:24] <bgt> it is possible for Ubuntu LiveCD to write XP NTFS?
[06:24] <monoxide> how do i change the root password in ubuntu to write to my file system and move folders into it
[06:24] <Arastoo> levander ok i am back
[06:24] <monoxide> besides just moving them to my home folder
[06:24] <jrib> !root | monoxide
[06:24] <ubotu> monoxide: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:24] <RonanCeol> Can someone please help me?
[06:24] <ubox> monoxide:u don't
[06:25] <levander> Arastoo: did you see what I typed about getting to a console?
[06:25] <monoxide> sudu olny works sometimes
[06:25] <Arastoo> levander: yeah
[06:25] <ubox> monoxide: try sudo
[06:25] <Arastoo> i got in the console typed my login and pass and than u told me to alt f7
[06:25] <ubox> monoxide: it works for me evrytime
[06:25] <monoxide> ubox: how can I install a tar.gz package from the desktop
[06:25] <Arastoo> how to reconfigure it i dont know
[06:25] <monoxide> maybe it is user error then ;p
[06:26] <levander> Arastoo: how, right now, are you looking at IRC?
[06:26] <RonanCeol> Need help with my mouse not working
[06:26] <Arastoo> another system
[06:26] <jrib> monoxide: what are you trying to install?
[06:26] <monoxide> gkismet
[06:26] <monoxide> from a sourceforge download to my desktop
[06:26] <] mRxIME[> ns.undernet.org
[06:26] <jrib> ubox: tell monoxide about compiling
[06:27] <ubox> monoxide: tar -xvzf *.tar.gz  /configure  make  install
[06:27] <Arastoo> levander: this is a windows system
[06:27] <monoxide> alright
[06:27] <RonanCeol> Could I please have some help, I have a simple question
[06:28] <monoxide> ubox: will be sure to give it a try, thank you
[06:28] <ubox> monoxide: wht r u trying to install anyways?
[06:28] <monoxide> GKismet
[06:28] <ubox> monoxide: if u r a noob try this...sudo synaptic
[06:28] <monoxide> it is a wireless tool to test your wireless encryptions
[06:28] <Formula1> RonanCeol what kind of question?
[06:29] <ubox> is it in the synaptic package list
[06:29] <monoxide> and what will that do
[06:29] <RonanCeol> I just started running Ubuntu from the cd, my mouse worked for about 2 minutes and died, I restarted and the same thing happened again
[06:29] <TheGilmanator> anybody play with Beryl 0.1.3 yet?
[06:29] <jrib> TheGilmanator: yes, probably a few people
[06:29] <ubox> thrs a list of packages u will get, find ur package in thr
[06:29] <yoshig3> okay back
[06:29] <sc4ttrbrain> you mea the lates beryl?
[06:29] <jrib> ubox: gkismet isn't in the repos
[06:29] <monoxide> alright
[06:30] <Formula1> Hmmm - Did you check your mouse cord - Mine came unplugged the other day
[06:30] <TheGilmanator> Yeah, the latest beryl. I've got a funky thing happening I was wondering if anyone else saw.
[06:30] <RonanCeol> Ya I did, like I said when I restarted it worked fine, tried all my usb ports too
[06:30] <sc4ttrbrain> i m running it now :D
[06:30] <jrib> TheGilmanator: try #ubuntu-xgl
[06:30] <ubox> jrib: oh ok
[06:30] <monoxide> is there a sort of n00bs package installer
[06:30] <hopsing> hello, wondering if someone could throw me a bone here...i keep reading that Dovecot install cert files when installing but don't see them anywhere.  am i missing something?
[06:30] <TheGilmanator> jrib: Ooh. Thanks.
[06:30] <jrib> monoxide: yes, see the link from ubotu I sent you
[06:30] <ubox> monoxide: yup
[06:31] <Formula1> Probably just a temporary crash / glitch
[06:31] <monoxide> yea the one about root
[06:31] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: what funky thing?
[06:31] <jrib> monoxide: the one after
[06:31] <monoxide> that was the olny link I had seen
[06:31] <jroes> can I delete an NTFS partition and then create a new ext3 partition in its place from the command line without rebooting?
[06:31] <monoxide> ill scrool up and fond it
[06:31] <TheGilmanator> My top-right and top-left corners no longer activate Put or show desktop, regardless of what boxes get checked in the config. I upgraded last night.
[06:31] <Formula1> It happens a lot less often for me in Linux than windows if that's any consolation.
[06:31] <jrib> monoxide: actually not to confuse you, I sent you info about compiling gkismet because it isn't packaged for ubuntu.  But usually you use synaptic that ubox told you about
[06:32] <jrib> !compiling > monoxide
[06:32] <jrib> !synaptic > monoxide
[06:32] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: Sorry. Top right and bottom left.
[06:33] <monoxide> jrib: thanks
[06:33] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: the config change to default every updates imo, so better to config it again and save it in separate name
[06:33] <ubox> jrib: it belongs to which distro..tht gkismet
[06:33] <monoxide> I should juse idle in here and ill know this os in no time
[06:33] <jrib> ubox: I don't know anything about it
[06:33] <monoxide> gkismet is the gnome port of kismet
[06:33] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: im using put and show windows, righy now + snow
[06:33] <sc4ttrbrain> :D
[06:33] <monoxide> it is probily for slackware
[06:34] <chuckblocker> anyone online that can help me with ubuntu 6.06 amd64 edition?
[06:34] <chuckblocker> i can't get anything to work on it
[06:35] <monoxide> ubox: gkismet is included in alot of slackware based live cds so I can olny assume that was what it was made for
[06:35] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: I'm sorry. I meant "Scale." Not put. Whoops.
[06:35] <ubox> jrib: hey kismet is in my repos
[06:35] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: The "I look like OS X" window picker thing.
[06:35] <jrib> ubox: mine too, but he wants gkismet
[06:35] <chuckblocker> i just need to get vncserver and wine installed
[06:36] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: is it still not functionable even if u re config it?
[06:36] <monoxide> just kismet will work if it will make my life easier lol
[06:36] <monoxide> olny diffrence is gkismet has a gui
[06:36] <ubox> then i think u have it
[06:36] <monoxide> but I can work with the command line
[06:36] <CientificoLoco> hello
[06:36] <jrib> yep ubox is right
[06:36] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: how do u get packages?
[06:36] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: It works with the keyboard and top-left, bottom-right. I've got top-right set to pull up the picker for the current app and bottom-left for window picker for all workspaces. They just don't do anything.
[06:36] <nothlit> x11vnc > *vnc*
[06:37] <CientificoLoco> how do I install the plugin for firefox of shockwave ???
[06:37] <monoxide> you can do it right thru firefox
[06:37] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: I got the update with apt-get through bery-project.org
[06:37] <jrib> monoxide: you'll have to enable universe repository.  Afterwards, you can use synaptic to install it
[06:37] <jrib> ubox: tell monoxide about universe
[06:38] <ubox> jrib: u know which vlc plugin should i use to play *.flv?
[06:38] <jrib> CientificoLoco: adobe does not provide a shockwave plugin for linux.  Your only chance is a firefox installed in wine
[06:38] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: im using trevino`s repo, u may want to killall emerald and beryl-manager then...
[06:38] <jrib> ubox: no, I'm not sure
[06:38] <ubox> !universe > monoxide
[06:38] <chuckblocker> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317130
[06:38] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: launch beryl-manager from terminal so u now whats wrong
[06:39] <ubox> oh ok
[06:39] <CientificoLoco> jrib, ok
[06:39] <joeshmo> hi.  whenever i mount my secondary ext3 drives i cant write to them
[06:39] <joeshmo> it says only root can
[06:39] <yoshig3> Hey guys
[06:39] <ubox> did u try sudo?
[06:39] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: It launched from terminal with no errors.
[06:40] <yoshig3> Why is my ubuntu running so slow graphically? I have the right drivers, I have beryl....but it's slow
[06:40] <nejucomo> Where should I post a possible package meta-info configuration error?
[06:40] <yoshig3> Like scrolling and whatnot is slow
[06:40] <robdeman> hey I am missing a lot of my System->Administration tools??
[06:40] <ubox> yoshig3: install icewm its a fast desktop manager
[06:40] <jrib> joeshmo: did you read about linux permissions?
[06:40] <robdeman> I did some updates, installed new stuff
[06:40] <joeshmo> i cant figure it out
[06:40] <robdeman> is there a way tro rebuil this menu?
[06:40] <joeshmo> is there a graphical chmod
[06:40] <jrib> joeshmo: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[06:40] <yoshig3> ubox: I'm using beryl and I like it
[06:40] <randin> does hdparm start at boot anymore?
[06:41] <randin> in edgy?
[06:41] <nejucomo> Specifically, when I install "python-biggles" it does not actually select a package that provides this library...  (A dummy package...)
[06:41] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: then try to enable or disable function that have problem, if there is no error, then reload window manager
[06:41] <kurisutofuaa> How do I force a program to install in a terminal?
[06:41] <khermans> the new Ubuntu logo: http://www.spadium.com/3butts.jpg
[06:41] <nothlit> yoshig3, how is your cpu,ram,vram
[06:42] <nothlit> yoshig3, you can always turn off a few beryl plugins, particularly blur
[06:42] <nothlit> kurisutofuaa, sudo aptitude install package
[06:42] <glimmerati> hello my etherape says "Error getting device: no suitable device found" can any one help??"
[06:42] <yoshig3> nothlit: it's not beryl though I don't htink
[06:42] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: I don't think it's the Scale function. I just set Show Desktop to activate in the same corners and no dice. It works in another, though.
[06:43] <yoshig3> nothlit: ubuntu is running much better with beryl except for scrolling, very very alggy
[06:43] <yoshig3> *laggy
[06:43] <yoshig3> Maybe smooth scrolling is off somewhere?
[06:44] <nothlit> yoshig3, are you talking about a particular app
[06:44] <glimmerati> hello my etherape says "Error getting device: no suitable device found" can any one help??"
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> bobbie__4: Please no song announcements in here.
[06:45] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: sorry,dont know about that, but mine works, tell me what function is not working,i ll replicate it
[06:45] <sorroww> anybody know of something i can use my mp3 player with that sorts everything out by , album, artist gengre, etc...
[06:45] <glenn> hi
[06:46] <sc4ttrbrain> !amarok | sorroww
[06:46] <ubotu> sorroww: amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[06:46] <sorroww> thanx
[06:46] <chuckblocker> tkz for the help
[06:46] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: Anything I set to those corners isn't working, but will work with the keyboard. It's like those corners are just dead.
[06:47] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: then dont use corners ;)
[06:47] <bobbie__4> tonyyarusso I beg your forgiveness. But 'ame' is one little silly key away from 'me'
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> bobbie__4: ah
[06:47] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: Dude. Problem solved, then! ;)
[06:47] <sc4ttrbrain> lol
[06:48] <TheGilmanator> Nah, I'm just difficult. I like my software to actually work. ;)
[06:48] <glimmerati> hello my etherape says "Error getting device: no suitable device found" can any one help??"
[06:48] <monoxide> try upgrading your dirvers
[06:48] <sc4ttrbrain> then try to compile it from source
[06:48] <monoxide> for etherape
[06:48] <yoshig3> Somehow, just somehow, Ubuntu pwns.
[06:48] <yoshig3> All hail ubuntu.
[06:48] <pixelmonkey> Is the feisty kernel 2.6.19 compiled with gcc 4.0 or 4.1?
[06:49] <monoxide> yoshig3: your right on that one
[06:49] <monoxide> first distro i can activally use full time
[06:49] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: That's too scary for a semi-n00b like myself. (Actually, I"m just lazy. If I can't "apt-get install" it, I must not really need it.)
[06:49] <glimmerati> any sir??
[06:49] <monoxide> few stumps here and there but what do u expect from having no prior knowledge of the os
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> anyone here using a ATI 7500?
[06:50] <sc4ttrbrain> TheGilmanator: im noob too, but compiling is not that scary
[06:51] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: Really, I'm just lazy. I'm not sure if I'm really /that/ bothered by it to stop being lazy.
[06:52] <glimmerati> hello my etherape says "Error getting device: no suitable device found" can any one help??"
[06:52] <TheGilmanator> glimmerati: Are you having trouble with etherape, by chance?
[06:53] <monoxide> glimmerati: have you checked your device drivers
[06:53] <Pie-rate> i downloaded the teamspeak2 server, i want to have it start when the computer starts. how would i do that? it has a script called teamspeak2-server_startscript, you run "teamspeak2-server_startscript start" to start the server.
[06:53] <glimmerati> i am not sure .. it worked yesterday.. but it says this mssgs
[06:53] <fatalcure> Pie-rate: add that to /etc/rc.local
[06:54] <TheGilmanator> Pie-rate: System -> preferences -> Sessions. Then add it to "startup programs" (the gui way)
[06:54] <sorroww> how do you view the library in amarok?
[06:54] <TheGilmanator> Pie-rate: That is, of course, if you wanted it to start up when you started gnome. otherwise, what fatalcure said. ;)
[06:55] <glimmerati> my eathernet is working becuase i m using internet
[06:55] <SeyToN> hi
[06:55] <sc4ttrbrain> sorroww: amarok will need to scan ur hd for music, the after that u can view it all in library
[06:56] <sorroww> what about from my dell dj
[06:56] <Pie-rate> thank you
[06:56] <SeyToN> i have 2 linux OS installed on my pc how do i browse the files of my other OS?
[06:56] <sc4ttrbrain> sorroww: are u talkin to me?
[06:56] <sorroww> yeah
[06:57] <sc4ttrbrain> sorroww: then use my name. Whats dell dj? a dj :D
[06:57] <glimmerati> still my eatherape is not working
[06:57] <SeyToN> i have 2 linux OS installed on my pc how do i browse the files of my other OS?
[06:57] <sorroww> how do i use your name?
[06:58] <sorroww> its a type of mp3 player
[06:58] <drcode> hi all
[06:58] <sc4ttrbrain> sorroww: type sc4 then tab to coplete it
[06:58] <drcode> any one know what best compress mpeg file (I know it come compressed) ?
[06:58] <drcode> thanx
[06:58] <sorroww> sc4ttrbrain, got it
[06:58] <sc4ttrbrain> lol
[06:58] <zophy_> which desktop environment does ubuntu initially install ?
[06:59] <sorroww> gnome!!
[06:59] <TheGilmanator> Gnome
[06:59] <drcode> I read that .sqx is the best
[06:59] <drcode> but didn't found it under linux console
[06:59] <sc4ttrbrain> sorroww: sorry, dont know about dell dj
[06:59] <SeyToN> i have 2 linux OS installed on my pc, how do i browse the files of my other OS?
[07:00] <haxality> mount the other linux's partitions
[07:00] <haxality> should be /dev/hda(something)
[07:00] <SeyToN> but where are the partitions i cant see it on media folder...
[07:00] <haxality> or maybe /dev/hdb(something)
[07:00] <SeyToN> ahh ok
[07:00] <haxality> you have to mount them
[07:00] <sorroww> sc4ttrbrain,  it happens
[07:01] <Pie-rate> it could also be /dev/sda(something)
[07:01] <sorroww> darn dell
[07:01] <joepits> jrib are you here
[07:02] <jrib> joepits: kind of
[07:02] <joepits> i got them mounted
[07:02] <joepits> this prolly wont be too hard
[07:02] <jrib> joepits: ok, /join #ubuntu-classroom  please
[07:03] <jroes> I just added something to my fstab by using its UUID from vol_id, but I get an error that the device does not exist
[07:03] <jroes> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/bf5ad4d2-dea9-4b6c-aa56-347cfb575278 does not exist
[07:04] <TheGilmanator> sc4ttrbrain: BTW, thanks for trying to help.
[07:06] <sorroww> i suposibly mounted my other partition , but i cant see it anywhere
[07:06] <DaveQB> whats ssh server called in Edgy ?
[07:06] <DaveQB> the package
[07:07] <TheGilmanator> ssh
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> DaveQB: openssh-server
[07:07] <DaveQB> really ?
[07:07] <DaveQB> ahh thats what i thought
[07:07] <DaveQB> a mate cant get it to install, so I can help him
[07:07] <DaveQB> he is a Linux noob
[07:07] <TheGilmanator> ... then what did I install?
[07:08] <DaveQB> its in main rep's not alternative reps that need enabling huh ?
[07:08] <Madpilot> !info ssh
[07:08] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[07:08] <DaveQB> I just install it without thinking and cant remember :)
[07:08] <jrib> TheGilmanator: ssh will give you openssh-server
[07:10] <sakitel> hello i'm an ubuntu'user, right now i use troppix 1.0 live cd, and i wanna install this in my HD, but I don't know how?, any ideas? thanks
[07:10] <Hobbsee> try in #troppix or something?
[07:11] <X360NEWS> DCC SCHAT "lol_jews_did_wtc" 0 0 0
[07:11] <sakitel> Hobb: it doesn't found
[07:11] <fuffalo> anyonek now why my amarok freezes when i try to use musicbrainz?
[07:12] <x-r00t-x> :-S
[07:14] <gotit> at the installation time it asked me to enter loging and password , it was not accepting admin as a login so i typed admim is it right
[07:14] <Music_Shuffle> your login is the username you created...
[07:14] <gotit> i can apply sudo commands
[07:14] <DBO> sorry about the spam folks
[07:14] <Pie-rate> why are so many people being banned?
[07:14] <fabbione> Pie-rate: spamming
[07:14] <somerville32> Pie-rate, DCC Exploit.
[07:14] <PORDO> i've got a problem now that i've upgraded to edgy.  when i hold down on a window and try to switch workspaces, it doesn't go to the workspace.
[07:15] <gotit> are there any default logins like they say about windows
[07:15] <somerville32> They are vulnerable so we want to help them get patched.
[07:15] <x-r00t-x> :-O
[07:15] <PORDO> i used to be able to quickly drag a window to another workspace like that.
[07:15] <PORDO> this is very annoying.
[07:15] <gotit> but why it wasnt accepting admin as a login name
[07:15] <PORDO> also, spell check in xchat starts the red underlining before you've spaced out of the word.  ANNOYING
[07:15] <Pie-rate> i have trouble understanding IRC...
[07:15] <DBO> Pie-rate, you and me both
[07:16] <rajiv_nair> anybody got AC3 audio wrking here??
[07:16] <rajiv_nair> p.s i dont need ubotu:D:D
[07:16] <duckman0> i have trouble configerating my video card
[07:16] <rajiv_nair> my centre channel is silent:(
[07:16] <duckman0> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.1".
[07:16] <Pie-rate> duckman0: what kind of video card?
[07:17] <mrisis> gotit unless you set that up as your user name it wont register
[07:17] <duckman0> 1300x radion 256meg
[07:17] <PORDO> rajiv_nair you've used alsamixer and this is still a problem?
[07:17] <phrizer> Hi i'm on dapper and just installed a 'Nvidia Geforce2 MX 100 ddr/200 ddr' agp card, and the nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-xconfig, nvidia-settings packages, and then ran nvidia-xconfig, I'm not getting a 'White Screen' instead of gdm login screen
[07:17] <rajiv_nair> yeah
[07:17] <Chucknorrislol> sup all. i'm having trouble getting my wifi card working for xubuntu (i've tried asking in #xubuntu, they sent me here). can anyone please help me out?
[07:17] <PORDO> maybe no 5.1 audio source.
[07:17] <sakitel> hello i'm an ubuntu'user, right now i use troppix 1.0 live cd, and i wanna install this in my HD, but I don't know how?, any ideas? thanks
[07:17] <phrizer> s/not/now
[07:17] <rajiv_nair> im on onboard 6 channel audio
[07:17] <rajiv_nair> nah
[07:18] <rajiv_nair> im playin AC3 audio..which wrks fine in xp
[07:18] <Pie-rate> PORDO: use gaim with irchelper for irc
[07:18] <Pie-rate> works perfectly
[07:18] <mrisis> sakitel should be an install button on your ubuntu desktop
[07:18] <rajiv_nair> and my rear channels wrk only if i check the "duplicate front" option in alsamixer
[07:18] <duckman0> pie-rate: ill be able to figure it out its just im lazy
[07:19] <rajiv_nair> !lazy
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lazy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <rajiv_nair> hehe
[07:19] <Chucknorrislol> !TEW-441pc
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TEW-441pc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <duckman0> i bout a new mouse today, the g7 logitec, im so very proud
[07:20] <rajiv_nair> pordo: ny clue??
[07:20] <sakitel> mrisis: is easy in ubuntu, but now i am in troppix1.0
[07:21] <duckman0> !ati
[07:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:21] <econobeing> hey guys, quick question, this guide says to do ""sudo apt-get install joystick" tell it to load at boot."
[07:22] <econobeing> how to i "tell it to load at boot"?
[07:22] <gotit> i am reconfiguring the config why it some times doesnt accpet the enterkey but accepts the esc key
[07:22] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the path way to folder where i created it to read and write?
[07:22] <sakitel> hello i'm an ubuntu'user, right now i use troppix 1.0 live cd, and i wanna install this in my HD, but I don't know how?, any ideas? thanks
[07:22] <leekraft> I'm looking for a cheap video car w/ onboard memory that has rock solid support
[07:23] <Pie-rate> leekraft: nvidia
[07:23] <Pie-rate> leekraft: how cheap is cheap?
[07:24] <yoshig3> Well Pie
[07:24] <MaestroTechie> Is there a way to see what type of memory i have (PC2100;PC1600;etc) using a command in linux?
[07:24] <SeyToN> geforce 6200
[07:24] <yoshig3> I got a GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB DDR PCI for $50
[07:24] <yoshig3> MaestroTechie: if there is, that command would be godly.
[07:24] <Pie-rate> yoshig3: you could get a geforce 6800 for that much easy now
[07:24] <MaestroTechie> yoshig3: :-)
[07:24] <yoshig3> Pie-rate: but all I have is PCI T.T
[07:24] <yoshig3> lol
[07:24] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:25] <leekraft> pie-rate: thanks,  like $50
[07:25] <yoshig3> Pie-rate: and a walmart lol
[07:25] <mrisis> leekraft, I'm have an older 256 nvidia card geforce fx 5700 and it hasnt given me a bit of problems
[07:25] <leekraft> pie-rate: thanks
[07:25] <MaestroTechie> yoshig3: i guess that's what stickers/labels on the RAM are for....
[07:26] <Pie-rate> leekraft: try a geforce 6600 or 6800, if that isn't cheap enough then look for one of the older ones like a geforce4
[07:26] <tom_kelleher> how is the latest build of Feisty? Stable enough for the 'power user'
[07:26] <duckman0> ddose the nvida driver have a graphical interface to configerator the video ?
[07:26] <kane77> hi. what does it mean that HAL failed to hibernate??
[07:26] <Flannel> tom_kelleher: you might try asking in #ubuntu+1, theyd be able to tell you
[07:27] <mrisis> duckmano mine does
[07:27] <duckman0> lol why did i go with ati :(
[07:28] <mrisis> lol, had a bad relationship with ATI awhile back so out the door it went
[07:28] <duckman0> in dapper i had a graphical interface now in edgey i installed it wrong , i guess
[07:28] <duckman0> my video works but w/o direct rendering
[07:28] <duckman0> and im not fond of changing things to get things to work
[07:29] <rec> anyone here know how to install something without installing its dependencies?
[07:29] <MaestroTechie> ?
[07:29] <gotit> i cant change my lcd resolution
[07:29] <MaestroTechie> gotit: oh my...i hate that problem just the other day
[07:29] <MaestroTechie> gotit: i fixed it though.
[07:29] <Flannel> rec: you can't.  That wouldn't make any sense
[07:29] <mrisis> I hear ya duckman
[07:29] <jrib> rec: dependencies aren't optional, they exist for a reason.  Usually because the program needs them to work
[07:30] <gotit> how could i fix it
[07:30] <_VanDaMe> how to uninstall xwindow on dapper?
[07:30] <MaestroTechie> gotit: i did the fix on my work computer...and i am at home.
[07:30] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:30] <duckman0> ty man, i treat this place as a support group and it WORKS lol
[07:30] <MaestroTechie> gotit: you think this could wait until tomorrow? wanna give me some contact info?
[07:30] <gotit> i am askin for the soulution
[07:30] <gotit> nope cant wait
[07:30] <MaestroTechie> gotit: took me forever to find the solution too.
[07:30] <mrisis> lol
[07:30] <TheGilmanator> Mini-survey: What's your favorite terminal emulator in Gnome?
[07:30] <gotit> any body
[07:30] <MaestroTechie> gotit: no one in the forums could help.
[07:30] <gotit> ??
[07:31] <_VanDaMe> how to uninstall xwindow on dapper?
[07:31] <gotit> i know forums sucks
[07:31] <SeyToN> why do u want to uninstall xwindows for?
[07:31] <gotit> anybody plz help me, need to set my lcd resoultion
[07:31] <bgt> it is possible for Ubuntu LiveCD to write XP NTFS?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> !resolution > gotit
[07:31] <Hobbsee> bgt: no
[07:31] <mrisis> gotit you should be able to change res with your display adapter
[07:32] <yoshig3> <3 ubuntu
[07:32] <duckman0> HIGH 5's cya later!
[07:32] <yoshig3> lates
[07:32] <gotit> cant do that
[07:32] <_VanDaMe> how to uninstall xwindow (Gnome) on dapper?
[07:32] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:32] <mrisis> cya duckman
[07:32] <rec> i have alternate packages to fill the dependencies, is there a way to specify that somewhere?
[07:32] <gotit> Hobbsee: help plz
[07:32] <MaestroTechie> gotit: in your xorg.conf you have to add something to the in your "Display" subsection.
[07:32] <jrib> _VanDaMe: install ubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <jrib> rec: use equivs
[07:32] <yoshig3> Hey guys, will running a lower resolution improve performance?
 how to uninstall xwindow (Gnome) on dapper? <--- apt-get remove xwindows?
[07:32] <rec> what are equivs?
[07:32] <MaestroTechie> gotit: i think you put a "," and the depth you want. and it will force it.
[07:32] <_VanDaMe> jrib : just remove ubuntu-desktop package ?
[07:32] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> gotit: see what ubotu sent you
[07:32] <jrib> rec: apt-cache show equivs
[07:33] <rec> sweet, thanks
[07:33] <TheGilmanator> Other than the obvious problem of no longer having a GUI, how much stuff would removing xwindows cause ya think?
[07:33] <jrib> _VanDaMe: oh sorry, I misread.  No, that won't work
[07:33] <Zelda> hello everyone.
[07:33] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:33] <gotit> Hobbsee: i tried it and my screen goes black
[07:33] <_VanDaMe> how to uninstall xwindow (Gnome) on dapper?
[07:33] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:34] <startswithz> hey I want to patch the kernel so that I can run 2.6.19 instead of 2.6.17
[07:34] <MaestroTechie> gotit: did you hear me?
[07:34] <startswithz> can someone explain how to do the patch?  I'm a bit terrified of destroying my comp
[07:34] <MaestroTechie> startswithz: patch from what version to what version?
[07:34] <startswithz> 2.6.17 to 2.6.19
[07:34] <gotit> MaestroTechi: yes, but i think you are a novice too
[07:35] <TheGilmanator> startswithz: Is the extra 0.0.02 worth the worry?
[07:35] <SeyToN> to give permission to my hdd to write and read is? chown r+w /and the pathway where i mount my hdd?
[07:35] <gotit> Hobbsee: i tried it and my screen goes black
[07:35] <startswithz> I dunno is it?
[07:35] <gotit> the ubotu command
[07:35] <MaestroTechie> gotit: okay, let me find you the documentation that you need. I'm a novice that had the same problem you had and fixed it.
[07:35] <gotit> MaestroTechie: ok
[07:36] <yoshig3> ONO I have a problem
[07:36] <yoshig3> I don't get any sound from videos played in firefox
[07:36] <yoshig3> For example: youtube
[07:36] <yoshig3> I get video just fine, but no sound
[07:36] <justin_> my modelines that worked in dapper for widescreen resolutions on my notebook don't seem to be working in edgy
[07:37] <phrizer> Hi all, i'm trying to get a "nvidia gforce2 mx 100 ddr/200 ddr" agp card going on my dapper box, i followed the instruction on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but now when i boot my system i see the nvidia splash, but then GDM greeter only draws half the display then becomes unresponsive.
[07:37] <phrizer> sometimes it even becomes unresponsive just as the nvidia splash is displaying, and i get a white screen
[07:38] <startswithz> yoshig3 what program are you using to run video?
[07:38] <gotit> Hobsee : xorg.confis empty
[07:38] <yoshig3> startswithz: VLC works great. I'm talking about within firefox, say I run a video from youtube- no sound.
[07:38] <yoshig3> gotit: xorg.conf shouldn't be empty...lol
[07:38] <MaestroTechie> gotit: wow, empty?
[07:38] <startswithz> yoshig3 I don't know about VLC but I'm using mplayer without any problems
[07:39] <MaestroTechie> gotit: is your goal to make your LCD a certain refresh rate, or change the resolution?
[07:39] <startswithz> works great in beryl too
[07:39] <Zelda> vlc is a good player./
[07:39] <gotit>  it is /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <Zelda> All around.
[07:39] <MaestroTechie> capital "X"
[07:39] <MaestroTechie>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <gotit> ok its not empty
[07:39] <PhibreOptix> Anybody want to play a game I made with Macromedia Director, works under wine =D
[07:40] <paloyme> what other irc clients available for ubuntu?
[07:40] <paloyme> aside from xchat
[07:40] <MaestroTechie> gotit: resolution or refresh rate?
[07:40] <gotit> change the resolution ,
[07:40] <Zelda> how do I tell if I have all my stuff on my computer installed correctly?
[07:40] <Zelda> like a Device Manager in windows.
[07:40] <gotit> refresh rate never do any better
[07:40] <MaestroTechie> gotit: what refresh rate are you using?
[07:41] <gotit> 60
[07:41] <boink> paloyme: do apt-cache search irc
[07:41] <yoshig3> what's the command to see your driver version?
[07:41] <paloyme> thanks boink
[07:41] <paloyme> what client you using boink?
[07:41] <boink> irssi
[07:41] <yoshig3> startswithz: I'm not talking about a media player. Just videos within firefox
[07:41] <Zelda> anyone?
[07:41] <okiaro> hi, how do i disable autoplay in ubuntu?
[07:42] <MaestroTechie> gotit: comment out the resolutions that you don't use by putting a "#" in front of the line.
[07:42] <paloyme> does gaim hav an irc client?
[07:42] <boink> yes
[07:42] <MaestroTechie> gotit: or just delete them
[07:42] <PhibreOptix> palomer: Yes
[07:42] <Zelda> Im in device manager. How do I tell if everything is installed correctly?
[07:42] <MaestroTechie> gotit: make a copy of your xorg.conf before you do so
[07:42] <paloyme> ok thanks
[07:42] <screechingcat> okiaro: system>prefs>removable drives and media
[07:42] <gotit> which line??
[07:42] <mrisis> Zelda Main Menu, System, Administration, Device Manager
[07:42] <MaestroTechie> gotit: make a backup of your xorg.conf file first.
[07:42] <Zelda> yeah Im there already.=
[07:43] <MaestroTechie> gotit: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.20061212
[07:43] <gotit> ok
[07:43] <Zelda> is there a icon or way to tell if its installed correctly?
[07:43] <mrisis> Sorry a little slow on the reading tonight, lol
[07:43] <okiaro> thank u so much screechingcat
[07:44] <screechingcat> okiaro: ive turned it off too. its irritating that i cant customize those options
[07:44] <paloyme> is there a gui for cups?
[07:44] <Zelda> Hello?!
[07:44] <Zelda> anyone?
[07:44] <gotit> cannot stat, xorg.conf no such file or directory
[07:44] <screechingcat> paloyme: system>admin>printing
[07:44] <paloyme> how do i share my printer from there?
[07:44] <Zelda> brb
[07:44] <mrisis> Not sure Zelda some of mine are blue some are grayed out, I'm new too, lol
[07:45] <MaestroTechie> gotit: cd /etc/X11/
[07:45] <screechingcat> yoshig3: to see the plugin version in firefox type about:plugins into the URL bar
[07:45] <MaestroTechie> gotit: change to the directory first.
[07:45] <gotit> ok its done :)
[07:45] <screechingcat> paloyme: sorry i dont know anything about sharing printers
[07:45] <paloyme> ok... anybody here know how to share my printer in ubuntu?
[07:45] <MaestroTechie> what resolution do you want?
[07:46] <screechingcat> paloyme: what company ?
[07:46] <paloyme> what do you mean what company?
[07:46] <gotit> in the xorg file it says modes are 1024.786  800*600 and 64*48
[07:46] <Zelda_> hello peope
[07:46] <Zelda_> er people
[07:46] <gotit> 1024*786
[07:46] <screechingcat> paloyme: your printer ? is it a HP or a LeXmark or something else ?
[07:46] <mrisis> Hi Zelda
[07:46] <gotit> i want 1024*786
[07:46] <MaestroTechie> gotit:  does your monitor support 1024x786?
[07:46] <Zelda_> im back.
[07:47] <paloyme> aaa ok... hehehe you mean what brand... HP heheheh
[07:47] <mrisis> Wb
[07:47] <gotit> yep the manual says that
[07:47] <MaestroTechie> gotit: and what is the problem you are having?
[07:47] <Zelda_> Again, how do I tell if my components of my computer are installed correctly in device manager?
[07:47] <screechingcat> paloyme: there's a config tool for HP printers in called HPLIP or something. i remember seeing something there about sharing once
[07:47] <gotit>  the problem ?? i cant change the resolution
[07:48] <paloyme> where can i find this HPLIP?
[07:48] <mrisis> Not sure Zelda some of mine are blue some are grayed out, I'm new too, lol
[07:48] <Zelda_> lol!
[07:48] <screechingcat> paloyme: try running hplip. its in system>prefs>hplip toolbox
[07:48] <MaestroTechie> gotit: when you load ubuntu, what resolution is displayed?
[07:48] <Zelda_> Im thinking of switching over altogether before Vista comes out.
[07:48] <gotit> 640*48
[07:48] <Zelda_> or soon there after.
[07:48] <gotit> 640*480
[07:48] <paloyme> uhmmm... i tink i still need to install this... ok thanks for the tip tho screeching cat
[07:49] <mrisis> Same here, use to run Mandrake 8 a few yrs back
[07:49] <screechingcat> paloyme: and if you cant see it, it might not be shown by default. just open the menu editor and check the box next to hplip
[07:49] <gotit>  i changed my crt with lcd , it was fine on crt
[07:49] <screechingcat> paloyme: its installed by default
[07:49] <Zelda_> If I were to pickup a Ubuntu beginners book to read to learn, which would be a good one?
[07:49] <amattas> is edgy using gnome screensavers or xscreensaver?
[07:49] <screechingcat> Zelda_: the official Ubuntu Book
[07:50] <mrisis> I'm not sure I've been reading all over the net, lol
[07:50] <Zelda_> thats what its called?
[07:50] <Zelda_> Ive seen a couple on Amazon.
[07:50] <screechingcat> Zelda_: something like that
[07:50] <Zelda_> like ubuntu for the un geek
[07:50] <SeyToN> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm firefox 3.0 alpha 1
[07:50] <mrisis> Lol
[07:50] <rastilin> How detailed is it?
[07:50] <SeyToN> sounds interesting :)
[07:50] <Zelda_> and ubuntu from novice to professional
[07:50] <MaestroTechie> gotit: delete the 640*480 out of your your xorg.conf. this will give ubuntu no choice to pick the higher resolution.
[07:50] <gotit> i cant change my screen res it was working fine with my crt and i changed to lcd and now its 640*480
[07:50] <screechingcat> Zelda_: i read ubuntuguide.org and the system documentation. thats enough for me
[07:51] <gotit> delete from whre
[07:51] <Zelda_> well, Im very new to Linux. I just installed Ubuntu on Sat.
[07:51] <kronoman> hello
[07:51] <rastilin> Zelda_, What were you using before?
[07:51] <Zelda_> hi
[07:51] <Zelda_> Windows
[07:51] <amattas> ?
[07:51] <MaestroTechie> gotit: each display has a Modes: subsection.
[07:52] <mrisis> You'll have it running in no time, lol I already have a ton of stuff on mine
[07:52] <MaestroTechie> Modes      "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[07:52] <screechingcat> Zelda_: well at one point i was new too. trust me, the best way to learn is to just keep using it
[07:52] <MaestroTechie> gotit: make it say: Modes      "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600"
[07:52] <gotit> it is already like this
[07:52] <neobonzi> ##C
[07:53] <paloyme> uhm forgot where menu editor is...
[07:53] <MaestroTechie> gotit: under all the Depths?
[07:53] <gotit> yep
[07:53] <Zelda_> well im still all messed up about all the command line stuff, and installing, uninstalling stuff.
[07:53] <screechingcat> paloyme: right click the menus and select edit menus
[07:53] <AzMoo> gotit, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:53] <MaestroTechie> gotit: are you doing dual monitors?
[07:53] <Zelda_> Is there a beginners guide to Ubuntu in a book? Or Linux?
[07:53] <gotit> no dual moniors
[07:53] <rastilin> Zelda_: Yes, there are tonnes.
[07:53] <gotit> AzMoo: ok
[07:53] <paloyme> thanks screechingcat found it hehehe
[07:53] <screechingcat> Zelda_: well i guess you could read the linux bible
[07:53] <Zelda_> Like, Windows for dummies, only for linux?
[07:54] <mrisis> Dont have to use command line
[07:54] <rastilin> Zelda: I hope not. I'm hoping it's a bit more complicated.
[07:54] <Zelda_> well this is a lot more complicated for me.
[07:54] <rastilin> Zelda_: The Redhat networking manual is also very good, it's an eye opener about what you can do with linux.
[07:54] <gotit> AzMoo: its asking me to select the video card
[07:54] <Zelda_> I will learn over time. I want to get a book to read about the basics and how to use Ubuntu/Linux
[07:55] <screechingcat> Zelda_: if you want the basics only, i suggest the web
[07:55] <gotit> AzmMoo: and i dont know what card i have
[07:55] <AzMoo> gotit, er, ok. ctrl+c that.
[07:55] <MaestroTechie> lol
[07:56] <Zelda_> well I want a book. Im good with hands on.
[07:56] <gotit> AzMoo:i am on terminal
[07:56] <MaestroTechie> didn't they come out with a book called "Linux for the non-computer user" or something like that?
[07:56] <Zelda_> Ill definately look into those that have been mentioned.
[07:56] <screechingcat> Zelda_: like i said, read the official linux book
[07:56] <MaestroTechie> gotit: type: lspci
[07:56] <gotit> ok
[07:56] <rastilin> There's an *official* book?
[07:56] <MaestroTechie> not really official.
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> rastilin: yep
[07:57] <MaestroTechie> gotit: look for something that says ATI or nVidia.
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> MaestroTechie: sure it is
[07:57] <gotit> the screen is filled
[07:57] <screechingcat> rastilin: sorry that was meant to be official ubuntu book. which there is
[07:57] <gummpppp> cannot access yahoo mail any ideas?
[07:57] <MaestroTechie> tonyyarusso: it is?
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> MaestroTechie: "The Official Ubuntu Book" - I have a copy here.
[07:57] <MaestroTechie> tonyyarusso: i read it on SlashDot
[07:57] <screechingcat> tonyyarusso: any good ?
[07:57] <MaestroTechie> Zelda_: there you go...tonyyarusso has your book!
[07:57] <Zelda_> oh, how do I set this so everytime I want to do something it wont ask me for a password?
[07:58] <gotit> everything is intel
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> screechingcat: It's fantastic for a new user; gets less useful as you gain experience.  (I'm hoping they make an advanced version some day)
[07:58] <rastilin> "Beginning Ubuntu from Novice to Professional"?
[07:58] <screechingcat> Zelda_: well thats the reason many people switch to linux
[07:58] <Zelda_> yeah thats the book I saw on Amazon
[07:58] <paloyme> rastilin.... lol
[07:58] <rastilin> Zelda_: You run as root. But Ubuntu is built to prevent that, it's a security risk?
[07:58] <gummpppp> having problems with firefox accessing yahoo mail any ideas?
[07:58] <paloyme> theres a book called Beginning Ubuntu from novice to pro?
[07:58] <Zelda_> yeah
[07:58] <Zelda_> Im going ot buy it
[07:58] <paloyme> damn!
[07:59] <screechingcat> tonyyarusso: wish they released an ebook or something
[07:59] <rastilin> Me too
[07:59] <Zelda_> Its on Amazon
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> screechingcat, MaestroTechie, Zelda_ : This is the one I'm referring to - http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Official_Ubuntu_Book?highlight=%28book%29
[07:59] <paloyme> i tot rastilin was kidding heheeheh
[07:59] <Zelda_> 29 bucks
[07:59] <MaestroTechie> tonyyarusso: thanks, i think i'm going to buy this.
[07:59] <Zelda_> I am.
[07:59] <paloyme> is there a newbie here who has read this book?
[08:00] <paloyme> can it really make a newbie into a pro?
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: Newbie to a solid intermediate I'd say.
[08:00] <MaestroTechie> tonyyarusso: i was talking about Ubuntu Linux: For Non-Geeks.
[08:00] <MaestroTechie> its on amazon, the link is too long to reference.
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> MaestroTechie: Also heard good things - saw it at Barnes and Noble too
[08:00] <Zelda_> hey are all the "recommended" updates good to just download all of them?
[08:01] <MaestroTechie> gotit: please read all the words and find something that says nVidia or ATI
[08:01] <rastilin> They're reccomended for a reason.
[08:01] <gotit> can anybody help me too plz for God's sake , i cant change my screen res
[08:01] <gotit> its all intel
[08:01] <MaestroTechie> gotit: do you see something that says video card?
[08:02] <rastilin> gotit, Did you change your xorg.conf like it was suggested?
[08:02] <MaestroTechie> gotit: or AGP
[08:02] <Zelda_> are there drivers for the new intel chipsets?
[08:02] <saif_indore> please help me
[08:02] <Zelda_> !ati
[08:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <Zelda_> there, check that.
[08:02] <robdeman> hey folks Im trying to get TRAC up and running.. PAINFUL experience
[08:02] <Zelda_> !tell MaestroTechie !ati
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell MaestroTechie !ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <mrisis> Should look something like this VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36.2 [GeForce FX 5700]  (rev a1)
[08:02] <gotit> intel corporation 82915g/gv/910gl express chpset family graphics controller
[08:03] <MaestroTechie> gotit: w00t!
[08:03] <saif_indore> I was running dapper when I upgraded the kernel. On booting i got the error dropping to shell - busybox
[08:03] <blackflare> hello :)
[08:03] <blackflare> I just installed ubuntu as my first linux distro and I love it :D I just wanted to share
[08:03] <gotit> rastilin: it was for crt monitors i think
[08:03] <mrisis> lol, yea its pretty decent
[08:04] <blackflare> I had some problems for awhile cause I was using an older version I guess
[08:04] <MaestroTechie> gotit: write down your graphics card: intel corporation 82915g/gv/910gl express chipset family graphics controller
[08:04] <blackflare> 1.06?
[08:04] <Zelda_> hrm, how bout virus protection. Is that a good idea to use here in Linux?
[08:04] <blackflare> it had a 6 in it
[08:04] <gotit> ok now what
[08:04] <blackflare> I didnt think there were any linux viruses
[08:04] <rastilin> Zelda_; we don't get viruses
[08:04] <mrisis> you can
[08:04] <msun>  Help Request - I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the 1st time.  I have a Dell 1920x1200 widescreen LCD monitor.  When I boot the install CD, I get the screen with the little progress indicator for about 30 seconds, then the screen goes blank and my monitor says "Can not display this mode."   I reboot and try hitting F4 to change the resolution but it does not help.   What to do?!
[08:05] <saif_indore> can somebody help me
[08:05] <yunhual> it is no necessary to install man or header file to the target machine, when build the embedded system, can i specify don't install those files through ./configure, make or make install, if i can, how to get that ??
[08:05] <Zelda_> then y are there Panda antivirus for linux?
[08:05] <MaestroTechie> gotit: now go back to what Azmoo said: AzMoo: gotit, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> !virus | Zelda_
[08:05] <ubotu> Zelda_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:05] <rastilin> Zelda_, because files can have windows viruses
[08:05] <Zelda_> well I know that.
[08:05] <gotit> ok
[08:05] <MaestroTechie> Zelda_: you can use Linux as a file server for windows
[08:06] <Zelda_> I know that I dont need virus protection, I was just curious why they have them
[08:06] <MaestroTechie> Zelda_: and you can't just install McAfee on Ubuntu
[08:06] <Zelda_> fuck mcafee
[08:06] <gotit> its not present there
[08:06] <MaestroTechie> lol
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> msun: It's possible that you could install with the alternate CD and it would be fine.  The Live CD has limited capabilities for graphical modes b/c of space, but an installed system can be more flexible.
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> !language | Zelda_
[08:06] <ubotu> Zelda_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:06] <dakira> hi.. since java 6 has been released.. are there any ubuntu packages?
[08:06] <yoshig3> Zelda: Please try to watch your language in here
[08:06] <MaestroTechie> gotit: that is probably why it won't let you change your resolution.
[08:06] <yoshig3> oh ubotu beat me
[08:06] <yoshig3> lol
[08:06] <Zelda_> !tell tonyyarusso uh...
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell tonyyarusso uh... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <gotit> i dont thnik so
[08:06] <TiG4> **** Whenever I put in the Edgy installer disc, I get this screen after the UBuntu loading bar goes through
[08:06] <TiG4> http://www.reflexpoint.us/jholen/CIMG0451.JPG
[08:07] <MaestroTechie> gotit: me neither.
[08:07] <MaestroTechie> gotit: i tried to scape goat.
[08:07] <gotit> can anyone else pls help me
[08:07] <MaestroTechie> gotit: does your crt and your lcd use the same interface to plug into the video card?
[08:07] <dakira> TiG4: i have the exact same problem with all ubuntu versions
[08:07] <gotit> yep
[08:07] <Zelda_> its his resolution
[08:07] <MaestroTechie> gotit: what i don't understand is why you can't boot with your crt....then swap it out with your lcd.
[08:07] <TiG4> dakira, tried safe graphics mode?
[08:07] <gotit> oh shut up MaestroTechie
[08:07] <MaestroTechie> gotit: he says he gets the desired resolution with his CRT
[08:08] <paloyme> what user/pass is the cups web interface asking for?
[08:08] <Zelda_> or that maybe he doesnt have widescreen support installed yet.
[08:08] <paloyme> i cant seem to get in using my user/pass
[08:08] <MaestroTechie> gotit: I'm not sure why you are telling me to shutup, its a valid troubleshooting technique.
[08:08] <blackflare> Im amazed how fast everything is now
[08:08] <yoshig3> Okay guys
[08:08] <blackflare> Im dualbooting a windows machine
[08:08] <dakira> TiG4: I just installed from the alternate CD (having framebuffer deactivated) and installed the nvidia binary driver.. after that the graphics were fine
[08:08] <arrenlex> paloyme: Root.
[08:08] <TiG4> *** If I have only one HDD installed with windows on it, can I install Ubuntu without erasing Windows?
[08:09] <squeee> Is there a systat / iostat equivilant for linux?
[08:09] <blackflare> you will need another partition tig
[08:09] <paloyme> arrenlex i dont remember setting a root password when i installed my ubuntu
[08:09] <blackflare> I think the installer can do it for you
[08:09] <mrisis> Same here, Xp Pro
[08:09] <TiG4> blackflare, ah ok thanks
[08:09] <MaestroTechie> blackflare: why dualboot? i much rather swap hard drives out before I dual boot with windoze.
[08:09] <arrenlex> paloyme: ...that's a good point.
[08:09] <fangorious> using plain sysvinit I could remove S13[gdm,kdm]  from the /etc/rc3.d and then rc3 was a networked, multi-user, console login. how do I do that with upstart (already tried deleting the fiels in /etc/rc3.d with no effect)
[08:09] <gotit> CAN ANY ONE PLZ HELP ME
[08:09] <blackflare> cause I never used linux before and had no idea how it was going to go
[08:09] <paloyme> arrenlex, so how do i get in?
[08:09] <squeee> gotit: NOT IN CAPS
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> !helpme | gotit
[08:09] <ubotu> gotit: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:10] <dakira> TiG4: Ubuntu sets up a second partition for you.. it also automatically resized your windows partition if you wish so..
[08:10] <arrenlex> paloyme: I dunno.
[08:10] <dakira> has anyone got java 6 running, yet?
[08:10] <mrisis> Yup, Installer will partition the drive for you
[08:10] <MaestroTechie> blackflare: i would recommend using the LiveCD first....get a feel for it.
[08:10] <blackflare> its not a big deal, the main dive is like 50gb and has windows and a few programs and games, and theres a 120gb for media, and I added a 60 gb now for ubuntu
[08:10] <TiG4> dakira, non-descructive?
[08:10] <arrenlex> !attitude | tonyyarusso, gotit
[08:10] <ubotu> tonyyarusso, gotit: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:10] <robdeman> hey all what are exactly virtual host files?
[08:10] <AstralJava> gotit: I understand you're getting upset if you're not getting the right solution right off the bat, but believe it or not, there might be people in here right now who don't know it. Patiently asking some other time someone might have come in who knows. Shouting won't get you far. So what's the problem?
[08:10] <gotit> i am sick of not getting help i am here for 2 weeks almost
[08:10] <blackflare> I already installed it maestro :)
[08:10] <umop> anyone here able to help me with partimage setup
[08:11] <robdeman> im reading on how to setup TRAC on Ubuntu and they talk about 'add these lines to your VIRTUAL HOST' file..
[08:11] <MaestroTechie> blackflare: nice :)  you are so on the right road.
[08:11] <robdeman> what is it?
[08:11] <paloyme> how do i bypass the root security?
[08:11] <squeee> Is there a systat / iostat equivilant for linux?
[08:11] <AzMoo> gotit, do you know what video card you have yet?
[08:11] <gotit> AstralJave: gotit
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | paloyme
[08:11] <ubotu> paloyme: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:11] <dakira> TiG4: i never recommended using this feature but alot of my friends used it anyway and said it worked fine for them
[08:11] <gotit> Thanks
[08:11] <gotit> cya l8r guys,
[08:11] <blackflare> haha, it works for me. My main machine will always be windows, but as an alternate for my tv tuner and web browsing its very speedy and clean
[08:11] <paloyme> thanks tony
[08:12] <blackflare> I have them linked with synergy, its nice
[08:12] <kurisutofuaa> Have some install issues with the vmware-server installer. I keep getting: Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file /etc/init.d/vmware. any got any ideas why it cant copy?
[08:12] <MaestroTechie> blackflare: i've seen synergy....it is very nice
[08:12] <ricardo> hey, does anyone knows the command to stop a port???????
[08:12] <dakira> TiG4: alternatively you can make room with partition magic prior the the ubuntu install.. or you can use the graphical partition editor on the ubuntu live-cd.. (which is pretty much the same as partition magic)
[08:12] <AstralJava> kurisutofuaa: No idea, but are you running the installer with sudo privileges?
[08:12] <blackflare> I kinda like the command line interface, its pretty fun to learn how to do things too.
[08:12] <fangorious> how do I edit runlevel startup services with upstart?
[08:12] <bradley> my gnome-settings-daemon has crashed, how would i restart it?
[08:12] <dakira> Again my Question: Has anyone installed Java 6, yet??
[08:12] <MaestroTechie> blackflare: i, too, use windows on my main machine. all my servers in my house are ubuntu. I run a MythTV box.
[08:13] <squeee> bradley: run in a terminal gnome-settings-daemon&
[08:13] <blackflare> If ive mounted my two windows partitions will they stay there when I reboot?
[08:13] <AzMoo> blackflare, they will if you put them in /etc/crontab
[08:13] <AzMoo> er
[08:13] <arrenlex> fstab
[08:13] <AzMoo> not crontab
[08:13] <cwillu> is festival broken right now?
[08:13] <blackflare> cause I cant remember what I did hahaha, I just copy pasted from a guide
[08:13] <AstralJava> blackflare: If you have made the changes into /etc/fstab, then yes.
[08:13] <kurisutofuaa> AstralJava, Yeah I am using sudo
[08:13] <AzMoo> fstab
[08:13] <fangorious> blackflare: if you put them in /etc/fstab
[08:13] <msun>  Help Request - I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the 1st time.  I have a Dell 1920x1200 widescreen LCD monitor.  When I boot the install CD, I get the screen with the little progress indicator for about 30 seconds, then the screen goes blank and my monitor says "Can not display this mode."   I reboot and try hitting F4 to change the resolution but it does not help.   What to do?!
[08:13] <AstralJava> kurisutofuaa: Then I don't know, sorry.
[08:13] <paloyme> tonyarusso, cant seem to find my answer to that site... im trying to access cups in web interface, its asking for a user/pass, i put it in, but doesnt seem to accept it
[08:13] <fangorious> msun: what video card?
[08:14] <blackflare> whats the command to put them in fstab?
[08:14] <msun> tony: i'm using the install cd, not lived
[08:14] <bradley> squeee, it doesn't work, it just sends me a bunch of critical warnings.
[08:14] <kurisutofuaa> AstralJava, that's alright
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: Ah.  Add the 'cupsys' user to the 'shadow' group.
[08:14] <fangorious> msun: install cd is the live cd
[08:14] <ricardo> Hi, does anyone knows how to stop a port in ubuntu????? thanks
[08:14] <MaestroTechie> msun: you want to install in text only mode.
[08:14] <msun> fangorius:  not sure off the top of my head.   oh cd is the same?
[08:14] <rapid> ricardo, does unbuntu have /etc/services
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> msun: By the install CD, do you mean "Desktop" or "Alternate"?  Desktop is the same as Live.
[08:14] <fangorious> msun: what graphics card do you have?
[08:14] <MaestroTechie> msun: or is it called "non-graphical" mode?
[08:15] <paloyme> thanks tony
[08:15] <phrizer> Hi all, i'm trying to get a "nvidia gforce2 mx 100 ddr/200 ddr" agp card going on my dapper box, i followed the instruction on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but now when i boot my system instead of seeing the GDM greeter, i get a 'white screen' only...
[08:15] <Zelda_> night
[08:15] <fangorious> msun there's a bug with ati/fglrx that usually affects laptops
[08:15] <squeee> bradley: Does it do it when you restart?
[08:15] <msun> tony / fago / maestro:    no i'm using a graphical install cd.  i don't know what videocard i have, but it's it's own card (not integrated).  so i need to try text-only somehow??
[08:15] <ricardo> rapid: yes it does
[08:15] <gotit> i have this file 855resolution_0.3-4_i386.deb on my memory stick how can i install it
[08:15] <rapid> ricardo, put a # in front of the port you want closed, then restart inetd
[08:16] <arrenlex> gotit: sudo dpkg -i 855resolution_0.3-4_i386.deb
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> msun: I'm not sure if you need to; I just know that if you're having graphics trouble at that stage it's worth a shot.
[08:16] <gotit> its on memory stick
[08:16] <paloyme> tonyarusso, cant seem to find the shadow group
[08:16] <msun> tony:   ok i guess i will try that thanks
[08:16] <arrenlex> gotit: Is this memory stick mounted?
[08:16] <bradley> squeee, when i restart it gets stuck at the splash screen unless i use the failsafe mode
[08:16] <msun> oh, what is the "alternative" cd you mentioned?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: It would likely be hidden from normal lists, but exists
[08:16] <gotit> yeah
[08:17] <paloyme> so how do i unhide it?
[08:17] <arrenlex> gotit: Then who cares?
[08:17] <rajiv_nair> bye guys
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> !alternate | msun
[08:17] <ubotu> msun: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:17] <paloyme> ooops see it, hehehe thanks tonyarusso
[08:17] <gotit> it says cannot access archive no such file or directory
[08:18] <msun> ubotu: for my purposes, would that be "just as good" as the Desktop CD which I have now?   Is "Dapper" an older release?
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about for my purposes, would that be "just as good" as the Desktop CD which I have now?   Is "Dapper" an older release? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <kuto> hey guys
[08:18] <saif_indore> hi
[08:18] <Catshrimp> Any ideas why the fglrx driver wouldn't install properly?  I've run "sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx" and run "sudo dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg"
[08:18] <gotit> arrenlex: it says no such file of directory
[08:18] <kuto> anyone learning ABS-GUIDE.pdf?
[08:18] <fangorious> is there an upstart manual anywhere?
[08:19] <rapid> ricardo, how'd that go
[08:19] <gotit> oh wiat i should copy paste the fiel
[08:19] <Catshrimp> Yet even after a full reboot, running "glxinfo | grep -i opengl" still shows that the mesa drivers are installed
[08:19] <Catshrimp> What gives?
[08:19] <ricardo> rapid: I just tried, but it did not work, any other suggestion
[08:19] <ricardo> ?
[08:19] <rapid> ricardo, did you start inetd?
[08:19] <paloyme> tonyarruso, still not working, it still wont accept my user/pass
[08:19] <kuto> when i do the stuff in ABS-GUIDE.pdf there seems to be bash incompatibilities
[08:19] <kuto> can someone help pls
[08:19] <rastilin> Catshrimp; Did you change the xorg.conf file?
[08:19] <arrenlex> gotit: cd to your stick first.
[08:19] <Jeffm515> morning everyone...
[08:19] <rapid> |Homer|, hey ho
[08:20] <kuto> hi Jeffm515
[08:20] <kuto> hi rapid
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: it's configured to allow web inteface admin and the cups user can access the /etc/shadow file?  Hmm
[08:20] <kuto> hi |Homer|
[08:20] <Jeffm515> I need some help networking... between Xp and 6.10
[08:20] <ricardo> rapid: start inet something like "#83 start inet"?
[08:20] <kuto> hi tonyyarusso
[08:20] <gotit> i just pasted the file in my admim dir
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Hi kuto
[08:20] <kuto> hi ric
[08:20] <kuto> hi gotit
[08:20] <rapid> ricardo, kill `pidof inetd`
[08:20] <kuto> hi ricardo
[08:20] <kuto> hi rap
[08:20] <gotit> setting up res
[08:20] <kuto> hi rapid
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> kuto: No need to say hi to everyone though
[08:20] <Jeffm515> lemme rephrase.. how the heck do you share files between xp and ubuntu?
[08:20] <gotit> hast been configured
[08:20] <rapid> kuto, what up dawg
[08:20] <kuto> when i do the stuff in ABS-GUIDE.pdf there seems to be bash incompatibilities
[08:20] <Catshrimp> rastilin: well, I haven't edited xorg.conf other than running dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg
[08:20] <kuto> any ideas anyone
[08:21] <g1gaman> gentlemen, i am going to install ubuntu on two small harddisks from alternata cd and decided to create /usr and /home on hdb (/ and /swap stays on hda). Which partitions should be primary/logical, which should be at the beginning/end of the drive, which should be marked with boot flag. Any suggstions?
[08:21] <ricardo> rapid: what is pidof? will it kill all the ports?
[08:21] <rapid> can someone tell ricardo how to restart inetd services on ubuntu please
[08:22] <kuto> g1gaman: any of the mounting points in linux could be primary and logical
[08:22] <rapid> ricardo, I don't ubuntu, but yes it will close all the ports if the command runs, a simple "inetd" should bring them back
[08:22] <kuto> g1gaman: make sure to make an extended partition and then a logical drive once you have created 3 partitions in a hard drive
[08:23] <Catshrimp> ricardo: inet.d is dangerous to use
[08:23] <kuto> g1gaman: i dunno if ubuntu's gparted do that automagically for you
[08:23] <rapid> Catshrimp, why?
[08:23] <kuto> ok someone help me too
[08:23] <rapid> isn't there a inetd - restart?
[08:23] <rapid> or something
[08:23] <Catshrimp> rapid: it's got a bug in the code (though I don't remember where)
[08:23] <Hellevator> how can i get my internet working in console?  I did ifconfig eth0 up.  What do i need to do after that to get an ip address
[08:23] <Catshrimp> rapid: however, I believe the bug allows for a system takeover
[08:23] <rapid> Catshrimp, um right.
[08:24] <saif_indore> My system crashed after upgrading kernel
[08:24] <rapid> Hellevator, ifconfig eth0 youripaddress here
[08:24] <Jeffm515> I need some help networking... between Xp and 6.10... anyone?
[08:24] <paloyme> arrrgh!!! ubuntu is getting on my nerves, i just wanted to share my printer on a windows network and these other "roadblocks" keeps on popping up
[08:24] <rapid> Hellevator, if it uses dhcp type dhcpcd eth0
[08:24] <yoshig3> !paste
[08:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:24] <rastilin> Jeffm515, what's the problem?
[08:24] <Catshrimp> rapid: mmmk dude, you keep runnin it :)  I used to run fbsd and obsd which is much stabler and much more security oriented than any linux project ;)
[08:24] <rapid> Catshrimp, you do that/.
[08:25] <Jeffm515> I have no idea where to start..basically, I just need to move files off my laptop onto my ubuntu machine.
[08:25] <Hellevator> rapid, thanks
[08:25] <gotit> what should i do to save the modified file 855resolution
[08:25] <rapid> Hellevator, anytime.
[08:25] <rastilin> So, share the folder off the laptop and download them over with Samba?
[08:25] <Jeffm515> rastiin: how..
[08:25] <Jeffm515> rastiin: that's the question
[08:25] <kronoman> ricardo: try : sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[08:25] <ricardo> rapid: thanks a lot. I figured out that altough my program stopped, I have to kill it in order to free the computer. My problem is solved. Thanks a lot for your time
[08:25] <corevette> how do you make channels in xchat start when xchat is started
[08:26] <rastilin> Well, you have to enable file and printer sharing on windows. Through network settings, then you right click, share folder on the folder holding the files.
[08:26] <rapid> corevette, you add them to your auto join list in the networks section
[08:26] <Jeffm515> okay, and then on the ubuntu machine?
[08:26] <gotit> what should i do to save the modified file 855resolution
[08:26] <rastilin> Places>Network Servers and the folders should show up
[08:26] <rapid> ricardo, np
[08:26] <corevette> rapid, wher in the network settings
[08:27] <Jeffm515> windows network shows up.. and there's nothing in there...
[08:27] <rastilin> Did you share the folder?
[08:27] <rapid> corevette, press ctrl+s, choose your network, click edit, then under channels
[08:27] <Jeffm515> yup
[08:27] <rastilin> Everything plugged into the same network?
[08:27] <rapid> corevette, for more than 1 channel, #linux,#linux2,#etc
[08:27] <Jeffm515> yup, laptop's wireless though
[08:28] <rastilin> Jeffm515, ah it would be. Can you ping it from ubuntu?
[08:28] <starfishy> i am trying to run Xgl and it will start up but crashes when i open any application that has to do with text in- or output
[08:28] <Zero_Fill> Both machines on the same network name, eg, HOME
[08:28] <Jeffm515> yup
[08:28] <starfishy> oh, and the same happened with Edgy and now with Feisty
[08:28] <Catshrimp> rastilin: everything I would need to run the fglrx driver would be included in the depends, right?  (because I know I had trouble getting the xserver running because it's depends didn't include x-window-system-core)
[08:28] <glimmerati> recently I lost one of my word document password.. now I need to open it.. can any one tell me how to??
[08:29] <rapid> glimmerati, shrug, I'd google for a word document password crack
[08:29] <rastilin> Catshrimp, I use nvidia, so no clue
[08:29] <glimmerati> rapid: is there any
[08:30] <Catshrimp> rastilin: ah, no problem, that's what I'm runnin on the nice desktop also.  Just had to go with ati (ick) on the lappy unfortunately :/
[08:30] <rapid> glimmerati, google has a better chance of knowing than me
[08:30] <rapid> glimmerati, i bet there is
[08:30] <TheRatKing> yo
[08:31] <kazim59> hello all
[08:31] <Zero_Fill> Hi Kazim
[08:31] <glimmerati> there is no free
[08:31] <rapid> corevette, all good?
[08:31] <kelvie> I added a custom repo to sources.list with newer versions of software -- I just commented it out, how do I revert to the old versions of everything?
[08:31] <kazim59> i m trying to compile a package from its source... ./configure works fine... but make is giving errors!
[08:31] <kelvie> apt-get refuses to do a downgrade
[08:31] <rastilin> kazim59, what are the errors?
[08:31] <blackflare> are there any cool must have apps to grab for a new ubuntu install?
[08:31] <corevette> rapid, yup thanks
[08:31] <rastilin> blackflare, you mean other than all the codecs
[08:32] <rapid> ...
[08:32] <rapid> corevette, cool.
[08:32] <TheRatKing> any specific type of apps you looking for?
[08:32] <blackflare> hmm let me think
[08:32] <blackflare> I have gaim, for aim
[08:32] <Zero_Fill> First thing I picked up rastilin
[08:32] <blackflare> I found tvtime for tv
[08:32] <kazim59> rastilin: i m trying to install obexftp... ./configure reports no errors... make tells me undefined reference to 'hci_open_dev' and many similar functions of sdp and hci and baswap
[08:32] <blackflare> I did get vlc
[08:32] <Jeffm515> rastiin: okay, looks like it just needed to reauth to the network.. it's going now.. thx
[08:33] <blackflare> I think I have my basic necessities, but Im just curious if theres any fun things or really useful stuff I wouldnt see on windows
[08:33] <gotit> Hurrah i done it from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:33] <gotit> rastilin : thankyou
[08:33] <Zero_Fill> Beryl
[08:33] <kazim59> Zero_Fill: i've reduced the errors much.. i installed many packages related to sdp ..
[08:33] <TheRatKing> you program? get build-essential
[08:34] <gotit> but commands are difficult to remember
[08:34] <sivik> how do i make sure something runs when the machine starts, or how do i tell it to run it when it stars
[08:34] <sivik> starts*
[08:34] <Catshrimp> later guys
[08:34] <rapid> sivik, you should add it to your start up scripts normal in /etc/rc*
[08:35] <sivik> all of them, i have like 7 rc#.d
[08:35] <gotit> whats the diff between 6.06 and 6.10
[08:35] <gotit> whats the diff between 6.06lts ofcourse and 6.10
[08:35] <sivik> newer kernel and newer versions of programs
[08:35] <rapid> isn't there a changelog
[08:35] <rapid> or changes
[08:35] <rastilin> gotit, what's the difference between 2000 and xp?
[08:35] <gotit> which one is newer
[08:35] <fangorious> how do I specify a runlevel at the grub menu with upstart? in dapper I could hit 'e' at the grub menu, and put the number of the runlevel at the end of the kernel command
[08:36] <rapid> obviously the latter
[08:36] <gotit> lol
[08:36] <sivik> 6.10
[08:36] <rapid> fangorious, lilo uses, kernelname level x
[08:36] <gotit> rastilin: thanks i set my resolution
[08:36] <rapid> fangorious, not sure if that works in grub
[08:36] <rastilin> gotit, glad to hear that
[08:37] <sivik> rapid: which rc#.d folder and what file
[08:37] <rapid> sivik, do you have a rc.local in there?
[08:37] <sivik> yes, i have a rc.local in that folder
[08:37] <blackflare> oh I know, what program can I use to check my cpu / mobo temp?
[08:37] <rapid> sivik, put what ever you need in there
[08:37] <gotit> i installed it from the live cd 6.06 is it the server version
[08:37] <blackflare> I had an asus probe program before, so I know the sensors are in there
[08:38] <Zero_Fill> I use gdesklets for the eye candy
[08:38] <sivik> rapid: what if i need to run it as sudo, is that a problem if i log in as a normal user?
[08:38] <paolo> Hi... is there a way to deny the access to KDE to users A, B? (they must access only ICEWM)
[08:38] <rastilin> paolo, deny access? You can configure gdm to boot them on icewm.
[08:39] <rapid> sivik: whatever in there, should be run as sudo, I presume, I am not ubuntu orientated that much.
[08:39] <kazim59> rastilin: what should i do now?
[08:39] <phrizer> Hi all, i'm trying to get a "nvidia geforce2 mx 100 ddr/200 ddr" agp card going on my dapper box, i followed the instruction on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but now when i boot my system instead of seeing the GDM greeter, i get a 'white screen' only then freeze.. i can still ssh in though from another machine...
[08:39] <kazim59> rastilin: make gives me linker errors....
[08:40] <paolo> rastlin, I see but this is not my aim. I want a particular window manager (KDE) for an an user, and another window manager (ICEWM) for another user
[08:40] <rapid> sivik, I have some commands running on start up that only will be run as root and they are in my rc.local running fine
[08:40] <sivik> but are you logged in as root on the machine?
[08:40] <rastilin> Yea, you can configure gdm to launch different window managers for every user.
[08:40] <gotit> whats the diff between ubuntu and kbuntu
[08:40] <rastilin> Gnome and KDE
[08:40] <rapid> paolo, in their home dir, change the .xinitrc
[08:40] <rapid> sivik: not at the moment, only a user
[08:40] <Z> dualboot help pls
[08:41] <paolo> rapid, let's try
[08:41] <tanubis> Anyone know how to convert .avi files to .3gp for playback on a cellphone?
[08:41] <rapid> tanubis, theres software that comes with the phone tha tshould do it
[08:41] <Z> ubuntu pls
[08:41] <rapid> tanubis, nokia software
[08:41] <ablyss> tanubis, why not just playback 3gp w/ mpalyer?
[08:41] <rapid> ablyss, cause he wants to play them on the phone
[08:42] <paolo> rapid, I don't have this file
[08:42] <tanubis> the software that comes with my phone ONLY runs on windows, which I run nowhere in my house
[08:42] <paolo> (my distro is kubuntu)
[08:42] <rapid> tanubis, google avi to 3gp linux
[08:42] <TiG4> **** When I'm installing Ubuntu, how do I disable frame buffer?
[08:42] <NoonInSF> could using a firmware cutter ruin the firm ware on my wireless card?
[08:43] <glimmerati> sorry.. it is working
[08:43] <jrrs> TiG4: eg for serial console install?
[08:43] <rapid> paolo, hold on
[08:43] <Z> dualboot
[08:43] <paolo> thanks, rapid
[08:43] <sivik> NoonInSF, no, its a software firmware for linux, not a hardware firmware, broadcom?
[08:43] <Zero_Fill> Z, yes it can be done
[08:43] <TiG4> jrrs, Ubuntu freezes whenever I start in safe gfx mode, and when I start regular it goes crazy
[08:43] <fangorious> does upstart even support the concept of separate runlevels?
[08:43] <TiG4> jrrs, the graphics go haywire
[08:43] <tanubis> rapid: already tried that...  came across some guides for ffmpeg but I keep getting errors with it
[08:44] <TiG4> jrrs, any receommendations?
[08:44] <jrrs> TiG4: 1s, i can find the configs i used to do serial install ; that would probably be close analogue
[08:44] <NoonInSF> broadcom....i'm having major internet issues ever since i got my airport to "work" sivik
[08:44] <rapid> paolo, I believe making a .xinitrc script in the users home dir, will start which wm is called from this script
[08:44] <sivik> NoonInSF, what kind of card
[08:44] <J-_> !ssl
[08:44] <NoonInSF> airport broadcom
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <sivik> NoonInSF, try talking to bcm-users channel
[08:44] <Z> which should i choose for ubuntu dualboot,60GB+20GB or @)GB
[08:44] <uMISTA> how could i make a way to right click onto a iso and click mount, and it would mount a iso onto a folder i told it to?
[08:44] <NoonInSF> bcm?
[08:44] <J-_> !SSL
[08:44] <NoonInSF> there is a special channel?
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SSL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <uMISTA> so how to edit the right click options?
[08:45] <J-_> !lamp
[08:45] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:45] <paolo> rapid. i've found initrc script in ect/X11
[08:45] <ablyss> converting 3gp to avi might be a bit difficult as the audio codec for 3gp is only avaiable when compiled against mplayer
[08:45] <gotit> can any one plz tell me the difference in the simplest words wat gnome and kde is
[08:45] <uMISTA> GUI
[08:45] <rapid> done
[08:45] <rapid> :)
[08:45] <glimmerati> recently I lost one of my word document password.. now I need to open it.. can any one tell me how to??
[08:45] <Z> ???
[08:45] <rapid> glimmerati, why the hell are you asking in #ubuntu
[08:46] <rapid> Z, !!!
[08:46] <AlphaN3> hmm
[08:46] <Z> ?
[08:46] <rapid> !
[08:46] <glimmerati> cause i m stuck in a prb..
[08:46] <tanubis> ablyss converting from avi to 3gp...  there's gotta be something
[08:46] <rapid> there is
[08:46] <glimmerati> anyway.. i m looking into it..
[08:46] <glimmerati> thanks
[08:46] <jrrs> TiG4: in the 'pxelinux.cfg/default' i had first line "SERIAL 1 57600 0x112", line 2 "CONSOLE 0" and then in the 'append' line, i had the following in addition to whatever is already there: "vga=normal fb=false console=ttyS1,57600"
[08:46] <fangorious> uMISTA: I'm not sure you can, I think you need to be root to mount an iso, as it needs to use the loopback devices
[08:46] <jrrs> TiG4: i found most of that in the purple www page for SYSLINUX / PXELINUX
[08:46] <AlphaN3> I switched from xdm to gdm recently. The font size is now too small to read. Anyone can help me fix this?
[08:46] <Zero_Fill> Not sure I have xp on mine and gave ubuntu 30gigs to play with
[08:46] <Z> in dualboot
[08:46] <Z> which partition should i choose
[08:46] <TiG4> jrrs, let me show you the problem
[08:47] <AlphaN3> It used to be 75dpi. Now it's like 50.
[08:47] <TiG4> jrrs, http://www.reflexpoint.us/jholen/CIMG0450.JPG
[08:47] <Z> i have 60GB+20GB and 20GB
[08:47] <TiG4> jrrs, that's what happens when I run the installer
[08:47] <rapid> Z: ask your question on one line.
[08:47] <ablyss> tanubis: i've seen plenty of windows software to convert, but none for linux.  i'd assume you could save the raw media from mplayer as avi but I haven't tried
[08:47] <jrrs> TiG4: delightful... :/
[08:47] <fangorious> AlphaN3: System -> Administration -> Login Window
[08:47] <TiG4> jrrs, what's that look like to you? xorg issue?
[08:47] <TiG4> jrrs, its an nvidia
[08:48] <AlphaN3> well.. that wouldn't increase the size of many things, including xchat conversations and terminal, would it?
[08:48] <jrrs> TiG4: tbh other than seeing columns of R and G and B, no idea; i'm not the most useful wrt X11 stuff
[08:49] <AlphaN3> i'm actually on xubuntu and the shortcut links to gdmsetup
[08:49] <paolo> rapid, it's not a good solution: xinitrc is common for all users, and there's not an option which allows access only for specified users
[08:49] <TiG4> *** Anyone know what this could be? It happens whenever I try to boot off the install cd (edgy), I can't install. http://www.reflexpoint.us/jholen/CIMG0450.JPG
[08:49] <jrrs> TiG4: fwiw i also used that syslinux/pxelinux stuff for the debian installer and it gave me just straight text mode 'readline' interface i think for both ubuntu and debian
[08:49] <tanubis> ablyss Trying to convert back to .3gp for use on the cell phone.  I have a cell phone with 1GB of memory on it, and it's supposed to be a decent video player.  Conversion software comes with the phone to let you play .mp3 and .avi files in the playlist, but it DRMs everything and won't boot under anything but windows.  I'm trying to work around the phone's DRM so I can move media back and forth under linux.
[08:49] <rapid> tanubis http://blogentooth.blogspot.com/2006/01/convert-wmv-to-avi-avi-to-3gp.html
[08:49] <kuto> hey guys
[08:49] <rapid> paolo, ok
[08:49] <kuto> anyone know what happens when you update gcc versions?
[08:49] <AlphaN3> anyone knows a permanent workaround? i want 9pt to look like 9pt it used to be :/
[08:49] <tanubis> thanks
[08:50] <jrrs> TiG4: i also remember in one of the 'wiki' docs it mentioned hitting 'f1' on the first screen if things suck and you can get past it -- if you're already past the splash screen tho i might not be helping...
[08:50] <rapid> kuto: what else do you expect.
[08:50] <kuto> i got gcc3.4 installed... what happens if i install gcc4 will gcc3.4 be overwritten.. will the files be overwritten
[08:51] <sivik> if a file is located in the rc#.d folder, isn't the program supposed to start when the machine starts?
[08:51] <ablyss> tanubis: have you tried running wine
[08:51] <kuto> hi rapid do you know
[08:51] <gotit> as far as i searched an understood KDE is just a visuale enviroment am i right
[08:51] <fangorious> AlphaN3: you said the problem started when you changed from xdm to gdm
[08:51] <sivik> gdm = crap
[08:51] <jrrs> TiG4: maybe first see if just 'fb=false' in the 'append' stuff for the syslinux gets you to a non SVGA type install process?
[08:51] <rapid> kuto: It probably won't be overwritten, it will still exist.
[08:51] <AlphaN3> fangorious: yep.
[08:51] <sivik> kdm = the sh!t
[08:51] <tanubis> bleh... whoever came up with the bright idea of DRM should be shot
[08:51] <rapid> kuto: then if its all good, you can remove the old gcc
[08:51] <rastilin> sivik, then initialize with "startx"
[08:51] <AlphaN3> fangorious: i removed xdm prior to installing gdm. could that be the cause?
[08:51] <sivik> rastilin, wtf?
[08:51] <fangorious> AlphaN3: gdm uses it's own font settings as compared to your default session-wide fonts, i though
[08:52] <tanubis> ablyss: yes, even cedega.  The DRM software accepts windows, but it wants the latest version of sp2 winXP to run.  It's very picky.
[08:52] <rapid> sivik, didn't work?
[08:52] <sivik> rapid: i trying to run mythbackend when the machine starts
[08:52] <TiG4> jrrs, so what's the way to install it using non gui? what params do I type?
[08:52] <fangorious> AlphaN3: I wouldn't have thought so, but I haven't used xdm in years
[08:52] <sivik> fangorious, why did you change from xdm to gdm?
[08:52] <AlphaN3> fangorious: yeah, but there is the titlebar font and many others that won't be fixed from gdmsetup. hmph...
[08:52] <fangorious> AlphaN3: the distributions I use changed their defaults, and gdm works just fine for me
[08:53] <fangorious> er that was to sivik
[08:53] <AlphaN3> sivik: i did. i needed the ability to select window manager on logon.
[08:53] <ablyss> tanubis: i has a similar problem.  my phone is also able to make very nice 3gp videos ( w/ audio ) and after I d/l the videos via bluetooth to ubuntu I wasn't able to play them, until I compiled mplayer w/ 3gp audo/video
[08:53] <AlphaN3> oh :P
[08:53] <rapid> sivik, check this one, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[08:53] <sivik> AlphaN3, kdm does that very nicely
[08:53] <AlphaN3> sivik: yep, but i'm on a 400-MHz notebook (:
[08:53] <jrrs> TiG4: i was doing it over pxeboot, so it might be a bit different, but the big win might be adding the 'fb=false' line to the 'append' clause in the syslinux(?) config
[08:53] <AlphaN3> kdm is a no-no.
[08:54] <sivik> AlphaN3, why is it a no-no?
[08:54] <jrrs> TiG4: i gathered that syslinux and pxelinux are not too far from the same thing, but might be showing my colours a bit there.... :(
[08:54] <TiG4> jrrs, huh? heh, basically all I need to know is. What do I add to the boot params
[08:54] <sivik> are you talking about being able to choose between xdm/gdm/kdm at startup or the actual xwindows session type?
[08:54] <fangorious> AlphaN3: but the titlebar font should be set separate from your [xgk] dm fonts, is there an xfce font selection tool?
[08:54] <AlphaN3> sivik: eats too much system resource.
[08:54] <tanubis> ablyss no problems playing the videos that I get off the phone... just problems encoding my library of music videos into something the phone will play.  It's doubling as my mp3 player and portable media device, but the thing isn't working because of the DRM stopping me moving files back and forth.
[08:54] <sivik> AlphaN3, which one are you trying to do?
[08:54] <AlphaN3> sivik: gdm!
[08:55] <yoshig3> Guys I need help
[08:55] <yoshig3> I have beryl working great
[08:55] <sivik> yoshig3, whats the problem
[08:55] <AlphaN3> fangorious: i don't think so.. well let me tell you the full story.
[08:55] <jrrs> TiG4: eg at the grub or whatever?
[08:55] <rapid> sivik, did you check that site?
[08:55] <ablyss> tanubis: bluetooth file transfer doesn't work ?
[08:55] <yoshig3> but, whenever I scroll using the scroll bar, on any app, it uses my CPU like 1000%
[08:55] <sivik> yoshig3, i know nothing about beryl
[08:55] <jrrs> TiG4: try 'terminal --dumb console'
[08:55] <yoshig3> *100%
[08:55] <jrrs> ( http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/terminal.html )
[08:55] <sivik> don't i have to enter a password to run a script like sudo mythbackend when the machine starts?
[08:56] <sivik> script that contains
[08:56] <fangorious> yoshig3: is there a scroll plugin in the beryl settings manager?
[08:56] <yoshig3> sivik: it's not beryl though
[08:56] <tanubis> ablyss: laptop doesn't support bluetooth, phone won't play non-drm'd files in player.
[08:56] <reverseblade> Hi I have bought a HP Pavilion dv6000 series, and I have serious problems. 1. Live CD doesn't boot it only boots with acpi=off option. 2. wireless doesn't work. it only works with ndis wrappers. 3. Sound doesn't work. 4 Open GL doesn't work. 5 most protected dvd's unreadable. 6. Fan speed is inconsistent 7. Suspension Hibernate does not work.  well what else left ?
[08:56] <sivik> yoshig3, whats the problem then
[08:56] <tanubis> rapid: thanks for the script
[08:56] <jrrs> the grammar on that page seems to be a bit off kilter, but i could be wrong
[08:56] <yoshig3> sivik: Just whenever I scroll anything, it takes 100% cput.
[08:56] <yoshig3> *cput
[08:56] <rapid> reverseblade, what a classic, have fun
[08:56] <yoshig3> grr
[08:56] <yoshig3> *cpu
[08:56] <ablyss> tanubis: why doesn't laptop support bluetooh? I thought all you needed was USB
[08:56] <sivik> rapid, like a script that says "sudo mythbackend"
[08:57] <AlphaN3> fangorious: My last setup was the default xubuntu install, plus ion3. Everything worked like a charm. Various font sizes cooperated. Then some accident happened, and i lost my /bin.
[08:57] <somerville32> !dvd | reverseblade
[08:57] <ubotu> reverseblade: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:57] <jrrs> TiG4: i don't know if the rest of the install will inherit the 'dumb terminal' action from that , which i think might be where the 'fb=false' comes into play, so perhaps 'append fb=false' also ?
[08:57] <fangorious> yoshig3: that sounds like a beryl problem, trying to do gl rendering in software instead of hardware
[08:57] <tanubis> ablyss usb to phone works fine... no bluetooth tech on the laptop though
[08:57] <rapid> sivik, I don't use sudo, so I can't help, soryr.
[08:57] <sivik> rapid, what do you use instead?
[08:57] <fangorious> AlphaN3: did you re-install at that point?
[08:57] <ablyss> tanubis: they make usb bluetooth doogles.
[08:57] <rapid> for like $20
[08:57] <sivik> rapid, then how do you run stuff as admin without doing either sudo everytime you run a command or doing sudo su
[08:57] <somerville32> !sound | reverseblade
[08:57] <ubotu> reverseblade: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:57] <yoshig3> fangorious: but I have a decent graphics card, it's not the card
[08:58] <tanubis> ablyss the phone really doesn't like accepting files to play in there.  I'm trying to work around the DRM by convincing the phone that my music files are actually videos I recorded with the phone's camcorder
[08:58] <yoshig3> fangorious: it's ubuntu
[08:58] <jrrs> sivik: sorry to hop in in the middle - but if it is relevant - you can setup sudoers(5) to not require password for certain Cmnd_Alias(es), and then point that Cmnd_Alias to whatever you want to run w/o a password
[08:58] <somerville32> !wireless | reverseblade
[08:58] <ubotu> reverseblade: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:58] <jrrs> ( if you don't wanna do everything passwordless )
[08:58] <rapid> sivik, i su - every time
[08:58] <rapid> :)
[08:58] <fangorious> yoshig3: i have a good graphics card too, and using xgl+beryl opengl screensavers spike to 100% cpu
[08:58] <sivik> jrrs, how would i go about doing it
[08:58] <AlphaN3> fangorious: So I reinstalled the system from scratch, using the minimum setup as the base this time (i didn't want totem and something else). I installed XDM, and played with it for a while. And it worked fine, but XDM was inadequate for my need. So I aptitude remove xdm, aptitude install xdm, and arrived here.
[08:58] <jrrs> sivik: man sudoers
[08:58] <dxdt> fangorious, that is one of the problems with xgl
[08:58] <jrrs> sivik: it's kinda tricky but it's not terrible
[08:58] <reverseblade> somerville32, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hp_dv6000_series_%28dv6116eu%29?highlight=%28dv6000%29
[08:59] <dxdt> fangorious, aiglx shouldn't do that.  Sigh if only the fglrx drivers worked with aiglx
[08:59] <yoshig3> fangorious: i'm not using xgl, I didn't need to, using beta drivers
[08:59] <AlphaN3> sivik: i think it's sudo -i
[08:59] <somerville32> !fan | reverseblade
[08:59] <ubotu> reverseblade: fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[08:59] <sivik> so i would put my user name as NAME for   Cmnd_Alias ::= NAME = Cmnd_List
[08:59] <reverseblade> somerville32, it is not that simple
[08:59] <tanubis> General non-related question: Does anyone know of a distro similar to Kubuntu in ease-of-use that will run on a very old system (like pentium 166) comfortably?
[08:59] <fangorious> dxdt: I know, I'm trying to convince yoshi3g that a sudden 100% cpu spike could very much be a beryl problem
[08:59] <somerville32> tanubis, Xubuntu?
[08:59] <sivik>  tanubis xubuntu
[08:59] <reverseblade> tanubis, use xubuntu
[08:59] <tanubis> thanks all...
[09:00] <jrrs> sivik: basically you setup a Cmnd_Alias and point that off to some binary or script, then down in the bottom you can say 'someuser ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: mycmndalias' in addition to whatever you have there
[09:00] <rapid> brb
[09:00] <jrrs> sivik: using visudo(8) to edit /etc/sudoers is a good move, as it will warn you of bad syntax so you don't tank the file and thus can't run sudo
[09:00] <somerville32> reverseblade, Try fixing one problem at a time :]
[09:00] <dxdt> tanubis, maybe, maybe Vector Linux
[09:00] <fangorious> AlphaN3: well, you might look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, gdmsetup, and whatever the xfce font tool is
[09:01] <sivik> jrrs: i will try and mess with that tomorrow, i'm offically way too tired for that to make sense
[09:01] <dxdt> tanubis, will let you do KDE, which Kubuntu uses, and I know they do pkg management through apt like ubuntu.  At least I"m fairly sure they do.
[09:01] <screechingcat> how do i export a manual to a text file ?
[09:01] <AlphaN3> fangorious: alright, thanks for the advice (:
[09:01] <sivik> screechingcat, man filename > filename.txt
[09:01] <fangorious> yoshig3: did you at least look to see if there's a scroll plugin? there's a resize plugin, without with you can't resize a window, so there might be a scroll one too
[09:01] <fangorious> AlphaN3: sorry
[09:01] <screechingcat> sivik: thanks mate
[09:01] <jrrs> sivik: for example: "Cmnd_Alias  WHATEVER = /some/path/to/script", and then: "username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: WHATEVER"
[09:02] <sivik> jrrs, and that will work only for that one script and not all the times me as the user would want to do something as admin
[09:02] <jrrs> sivik: todd miller might have some examples on the sudo manpage, but bene a while since i checked
[09:02] <sivik> ok
[09:02] <jrrs> sivik: it will work for all instances of /some/path/to/script -- check millert's www on it
[09:02] <yoshig3> How do I install a tar.gz of Firefox 2.0?
[09:03] <yoshig3> I have the old firefox on my system
[09:03] <AlphaN3> maybe i'll restart X.. hmm.. thanks anyway everyone who has helped
[09:03] <ski-worklap> yoshig3, apt-get upgrade?
[09:03] <dxdt> 2.0 is default on Edgy
[09:03] <schinkenbrot> i believe i can fly
[09:03] <schinkenbrot> i believe i can touch the sky
[09:03] <yoshig3> ski-worklap: doesn't upgrade firefox
[09:03] <jrrs> sivik-sleep: there're a few little tricky gotchas with syntax that can have unanticipated results, but if you're just doing this for convenience factor, it might be less of a paranoia concern
[09:03] <yoshig3> nope
[09:03] <dxdt> yoshig3, are you running edgy?
[09:04] <yoshig3> Oh well
[09:04] <yoshig3> I guess I do have 2.0
[09:04] <yoshig3> well damn
[09:04] <yoshig3> alright
[09:04] <yoshig3> my fault
[09:04] <yoshig3> And YES ENTER IS a punctuation
[09:04] <fangorious> yoshig3: you cd to the directory you want it in, and run 'tar xvzf <file>'
[09:04] <kelvie> Is there a repo with a newer version of the kernel (and headers)
[09:04] <yoshig3> so blah
[09:04] <kelvie> ?
[09:04] <ski-worklap> yock, sorry i meant dist-upgrade
[09:04] <ski-worklap> s/yock/yoshig3/
[09:05] <somerville32> !enter | yoshig3
[09:05] <ubotu> yoshig3: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:06] <Jeffm515> okay, first off, thnak you to EVERYONE who's he;[ed me so far.. seriously,.. thanks!
[09:06] <Jeffm515> helped*
[09:07] <Jeffm515> I'm trying to play a DVD, and its asking me to install libdvdcss ... how/where do I find this?
[09:07] <Madpilot> !dvd | Jeffm515
[09:07] <ubotu> Jeffm515: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:07] <J-_> !htaccess
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htaccess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <yoshig3> !enter | yoshig3
[09:08] <ubotu> yoshig3: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:08] <robdeman> hey gang, how do I disable a Apache2 module in Ubuntu?
[09:08] <robdeman> or enable for that matter...
[09:08] <J-_> !.htaccess
[09:08] <ski-worklap> robdeman, look at mods-enabled
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htaccess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <robdeman> ski-worklap: I did.. do I just remove files from there?
[09:09] <robdeman> or is there some kind of command?
[09:09] <ski-worklap> teh command is "rm" :)
[09:09] <J-_> what directory/file do I 'AllowOverride All' for .htaccess to work?
[09:10] <ski-worklap> seriously tho, just rm symlins to mods-available that you want to delete, then apachectl restart
[09:10] <robdeman> ok thanks
[09:10] <robdeman> :)
[09:11] <fangorious> does edgy support runlevels 3-5, or just keep them around for nostalgia?
[09:12] <phrizer> Hi all, i'm trying to get a "nvidia geforce2 mx 100 ddr/200 ddr" agp card going on my dapper box, i followed the instruction on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but now when i boot my system instead of seeing the GDM greeter, i get a 'white screen' only then freeze.. i can still ssh in though from another machine...
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: You can use them, for sure.  By default they are the same as 2, but you can tweak to your needs.
[09:13] <J-_> when i go to restart my Ubuntu LAMP server, it says I don't have a fully qualified domain name? How can I change the setting to work with a redirect IP?
[09:13] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: how do I boot them?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: By putting the number at the end of the kernel line in your grub menu.
[09:14] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: doesn't seem to be supported in edgy, there's a handful of other people with the same question on the forum
[09:14] <umop> how do i reset the password for root?
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: Interesting.  Edgy is using a new boot system, so something might have changed.
[09:15] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: is there a command I can run to tell me what runlevel it thinks I'm in?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: There are still /etc/rc#.d/ directories
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: 'runlevel'
[09:15] <rapid> umop, passwd root ?
[09:15] <rapid> theres no root in ubuntu is there
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> !root | umop
[09:15] <ubotu> umop: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:16] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: i disabled gdm in runlevel 3, and putting '3' on my kernel line still puts me at a gdm screen
[09:16] <fangorious> :(
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> fangorious: Hrm.  I'll have to try it some time and see for myself.
[09:16] <paolo> ufff... I can't believe that for a so simple operation there is not a tip....
[09:16] <fangorious> runlevel says "S 2", although I'm sure I've rebooted since trying to boot into 3
[09:16] <umop> rapid, hmm..ive been trying that.  Not sure whats wrong, just trying to get partimaged running
[09:16] <sidny4> which package do I install for nvidia drivers? nvidia-glx or nvidia-settings?
[09:16] <rapid> the first 1
[09:17] <rapid> umop: theres no root in ubuntu
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> paolo: What was you question?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> *your
[09:17] <jrrs> is it that there's no root, or that root's password is either '!'d or some random garble... ?
[09:17] <paolo> tonyyarusso: i have to deny the access to kde for a particular user
[09:17] <jrrs> ( assuming you did the 'admin user' thingy during install )
[09:17] <umop> rapid, yeah, I have sudo which is alos the first user, but i am being prompted for root's password
[09:18] <umop> rapid, I will probably figure it out
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> paolo: Interesting...how come?
[09:18] <jrrs> umop: eg "enter root password for maintenance" during single user mode?
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> jrrs: Root's password is hashed as *, yes.
[09:18] <paolo> tonyyarusso, there are two users: A must access to both kde and icewm, B must access only to icewm
[09:18] <paolo> I don't know how....
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> paolo: What would happen if you created a .kde directory (or whatever it is) for B and set the permissions to not let them read or write, so that KDE would fail to start?
[09:19] <sidny4> which package do I install for nvidia drivers? nvidia-glx or nvidia-settings?
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> !nvidia | sidny4
[09:19] <ubotu> sidny4: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:19] <jrrs> sidny4: 03:16 < rapid> the first 1
[09:19] <paolo> tonyyarusso, I've thought the same
[09:20] <Gesthemene> Hi guys, have just edited my xorg.conf file in an attempt to update my nvidia drivers. Good news is, now I can't get X :( Anyone able to help please?
[09:20] <paolo> but it's not a good way of proceeding
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> paolo: Not optimal, no.
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> paolo: I take it A and B are both seeing the same login screen (kdm or whatever)
[09:20] <rapid> Gesthemene, change nvidia to nv in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:20] <paolo> yes
[09:20] <paloyme> how do you edit a protected conf file? sudo... something something... i forgot....
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> paolo: You could also edit permissions on the kde binaries directly.
[09:20] <Gesthemene> ok.. will try (first time linux user)
[09:20] <jrrs> paloyme: sudoedit ?
[09:21] <paloyme> sudoeit?
[09:21] <owh> Anyone around here know of a backup package that takes into account that I'm running Ubuntu, that is, it doesn't backup the files that come from the packages that are installed, unless they've changed. Of course it would be good if it took note of partitions and installed packages :-)
[09:21] <paloyme> sudoedit?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> paolo: I don't know how you would make a nice error message though - zenity script?
[09:21] <jrrs> paloyme: or sudo YOUR_FAVOURITE_EDITOR
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | paloyme
[09:21] <ubotu> paloyme: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:21] <owh> paloyme: sudo gedit would do it.
[09:21] <paloyme> ok, how do you point to a file thats a few folders deep? is there a shortcut to it?
[09:21] <paolo> tonyyarusso, so: for which folder i mus chang the permissions?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> owh: gksu in that case, since gedit is graphical
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> paolo: I'm not sure (no KDE here)
[09:21] <rapid> paloyme: use ln
[09:22] <paloyme> ln?
[09:22] <jrrs> paloyme: sudoedit is sudo(8) invoking $EDITOR on a copy of the file in question, such that changes to the file aren't moved back until you exit the editor
[09:22] <owh> tonyyarusso: Yes that would also work :-)
[09:22] <rapid> paloyme: create a symbolic link to the file you need.
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: 'man ln' will tell you all of the necessary information about how to use it in-depth
[09:22] <paloyme> thanks tony
[09:23] <Gesthemene> Rapid, just edited it and am rebooting now. Hope it works :)
[09:23] <paloyme> is this applicable when doing, like for example, sudoedit /etc/salfkjdslfk/fasdfsdf/asdfasdf/asdfsadf/abc.conf?
[09:23] <yoshig3> Is there any program similar to Limewire that works for ubuntu?
[09:23] <paolo> tonyyarusso, the problem is that kde folders and files, in user's home dir, are run-time created
[09:23] <paloyme> is there a shortcut to that?
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> !limewire | yoshig3
[09:23] <ubotu> yoshig3: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:23] <owh> paloyme: Type it into the terminal.
[09:23] <rapid> Gesthemene, you don't have to reboot
[09:23] <yoshig3> Thanks :D

[09:24] <yoshig3> !java
[09:24] <Nameeater> what package gives /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/modules ?
[09:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> paolo: Not all though, right?
[09:24] <owh> paloyme: Are you wanting to do this on an ongoing basis, or just once?
[09:24] <Gesthemene> oh well, it seemed to work anyway.
[09:24] <paloyme> yeah i know i need to type it to a terminal, but is there some shortcut, so that i wont need to type in those damn folders?
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> paolo: certainly the binaries would do the trick, just not glamorously
[09:24] <Nameeater> as I have linux-headers but there is only a symlink in the -386 folder, but no modules folder
[09:24] <paloyme> owh, just once
[09:24] <rapid> Gesthemene, mind you, theres no 3d extensions with that driver.
[09:24] <owh> paloyme: Use the tab key while you're typing.
[09:24] <paloyme> but since i dont know some of the folder name formats, i get errors and it sucks to repeat the whole folder name
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: tab-complete :)
[09:24] <rapid> Gesthemene, hopefully it helps in the mean time
[09:25] <paloyme> i see... thanks ill try that
[09:25] <CraZyLeGs> is there support for PCMCIA wifi cards ?
[09:25] <rapid> of course.
[09:25] <owh> paloyme: It will complete the name, so cd /et[tab]  becomes /etc, or cd ~[tab]  becomes /home/{username}/
[09:25] <timfrost> Nameeater: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | CraZyLeGs
[09:25] <ubotu> CraZyLeGs: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:25] <paolo> tonyyarusso I can't find binaries associated only to kde
[09:25] <CraZyLeGs> thanks
[09:25] <Nameeater> timfrost: there is no modules folder :(
[09:25] <owh> !backup|owh
[09:25] <ubotu> owh: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> paolo: 'startkde'?
[09:25] <jishin> I got mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs' when booting to 2.6.19 kernel
[09:26] <owh> !cloning|owh
[09:26] <ubotu> owh: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[09:26] <robdeman> What is Ubuntu 'Breeze' ?
[09:26] <paloyme> what does .folder/ mean?
[09:26] <Gesthemene> Rapid, Yeah.. I'm getting that.. this is a task set for me by my boss.. to get OpenGL drivers running. Since I only installed Ubuntu for the first time yesterday, it's proving interesting..
[09:26] <paolo> tonyyarusso, let's have a look
[09:26] <owh> paloyme: That's the name of a folder.
[09:27] <rapid> Gesthemene, cool. have fun
[09:27] <jrrs> paloyme: the 'dot' in front means it won't show up in ls(1) unless you include -a
[09:27] <paloyme> how do i access it in terminal? or how do i use it in sudoedit? ... sudoeit .folder/xxxfile.conf?
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: yes
[09:27] <jrrs> paloyme: sure.  or ' cd .folder; sudoedit xxxfile.conf' or sudo vi or blahblah
[09:27] <paolo> tonyyarusso, it would be risky, since this executable is common for all users
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> paolo: You would need all other users included in the group, with g+x rights, lacking only the one user excluded.
[09:28] <paolo> i see, tonyyarusso but
[09:28] <paolo> it's risky
[09:28] <guillem101> palomer, the dot is only for default ls output filtering. Also Nautilus skips .dot files/folders if not told to show hidden files.
[09:28] <timfrost> Nameeater: sorry.  linux-headers is the headers for building modules outside the source tree.  The modules are part of the linux binary package, and are elsewhere in the tree.  What are you trying to do?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> paolo: How is that risky?
[09:29] <paolo> tonyyarusso, this means that i have to change permissions for a shared system executable
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> paolo: You could also make a hand-off script that just runs that command, and point your login manager at it instead
[09:29] <owh> paloyme: May I ask what you're trying to edit. The reason I do is because the types of questions you're asking indicate that you are perhaps a novice user and without wanting to insult you, perhaps you're trying to fix something that isn't broken or can be addressed in another way.
[09:29] <uMISTA> trying to work out how to install opengl for wine can anyone help me
[09:30] <rapid> opengl for wine.. hmm fun
[09:30] <paolo> no, it's not a good solution
[09:30] <gouki> When is the new release coming out (Dapper Drake)? I think it may have the version number 6.06.02(?)
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> paolo: Well, if that's what you think you don't have to do it.  All I'm coming up with.
[09:31] <frogzoo> uMISTA: umm... wine supports opengl out of the box....
[09:31] <owh> tonyyarusso: Do you know what paolo and paloyme are trying to do?
[09:31] <frogzoo> gouki: edgy
[09:31] <frogzoo> !edgy | gouki
[09:31] <ubotu> gouki: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:31] <uMISTA> ive try using it on warcraft but no go
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> gouki: Dapper (6.06) came out in June.  The first maintenance update (6.06.1) in August.  Edgy (6.10) came out in October.  There will likely be a second Dapper maintenance release (6.06.2) sometime, but there are no specific plans.
[09:31] <paolo> i'm sorry tonyyarusso, but it's a "critical" operation
[09:31] <paolo> and i have to do it
[09:32] <paolo> in the best way
[09:32] <gouki> I don't mean Edgy. I'm talking about the new release of Dapper Drake
[09:32] <frogzoo> !wow | uMISTA
[09:32] <ubotu> uMISTA: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> owh: Not sure about paloyme
[09:32] <gouki> tonyyarusso: Thank you. That's what I wanted to know
[09:32] <owh> tonyyarusso: That makes two of us.
[09:32] <frogzoo> uMISTA: what is your actual problem running wow?
[09:32] <reverseblade> you know linux doesn't work with entire HP pavilion 6000 series
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> paolo: Checked the forums and/or mailing list yet?
[09:33] <frogzoo> oh uMISTA, you're not using wine from the ubuntu repos are you ?
[09:33] <frogzoo> reverseblade: HP is very linux friendly these days, is that an old model?
[09:33] <paolo> tonyyarusso, yes, but with no results
[09:33] <owh> tonyyarusso: What's paolo attempting?
[09:33] <reverseblade> frogzoo, not is a brand new model
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> owh: Wants to prevent one particular user from logging into a KDE session from kdm, while allowing all others, but restricting this one to Icewm
[09:34] <frogzoo> reverseblade: well it's odd that you could buy those with linux support....
[09:34] <paolo> owh: I have to deny kde access for a particular user
[09:35] <Nameeater> timfrost: trying to compile a module for a webcam :)
[09:35] <reverseblade> frogzoo, well it doesn't even boot with live CD, you have to specify acpi=off as a boot option to boot it. 2ndly, wireless , sound, opengl doesn't work
[09:35] <rapid> paolo: i want your problem fixed.
[09:35] <paolo> ehehehh rapid:)
[09:35] <paloyme> ok, how do i move up a directory during the sudoedit "tab"
[09:35] <paolo> rapid, why?
[09:35] <paolo> :)
[09:35] <frogzoo> reverseblade: maybe redhat..
[09:35] <owh> paolo: Ok, lemmie google for a bit.
[09:35] <rapid> paolo: heard it so many times already :)
[09:35] <robdeman> hey folks im trying to install Trac.. it gives an Internal Server error.. which logfile do I want to check?
[09:35] <AlphaN3> k, i'm back >_> here's where it gets weird. removed gdm, font comes back to good size again.
[09:36] <paolo> thanks owh, I hope you would be more lucky than me
[09:37] <reverseblade> frogzoo, you mean fedora ? Btw, I am an experienced user with ubuntu using it for 1.5 years
[09:37] <timfrost> Nameeater: you don't need a modules directory in the headers tree.  Have you installed build-essential as well as the headers?
[09:37] <frogzoo> reverseblade: seeing as you can buy those with redhat support, I'd say fedora's a good bet
[09:37] <AlphaN3> but i don't want to logon from the console everytime, and i need to be able to logon to wmii, not just xfce. any advice?
[09:37] <bjorn-> http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Piratebay_strikes_back_blocks_Swedish_ISP
[09:37] <reverseblade> frogzoo, one more thing.My computer is "vista ready". Figure out how brand new it is.
[09:37] <Nameeater> timfrost: yes, the Makefile is complaining about not finding a modules folder I think
[09:37] <rapid> reverseblade, get rid of that sticker asap
[09:37] <frogzoo> reverseblade: vista ready machines don't exist :)
[09:37] <rapid> :)
[09:37] <rapid> they are ready to crash.
[09:37] <owh> paolo: Which login manager are you using?
[09:37] <timfrost> Nameeater: pastebin the output.
[09:38] <reverseblade> frogzoo, problem with HP pavilion dv6000 series  is not a ubuntu problem. It is a linux problem.
[09:38] <fallingdutch> i upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 yesterday, rebooted and when i wanted to login X crashed - the error seemed to be in /etc/bash_completion i have uncommented the lines in .bashrc then the x-session didn't crash. Now i start an app and X crashes again, but ran before.is there a known problem with /etc/bash_completion and any ideas why x crashes when starting the app, what changed between 6.10 and 6.06?
[09:38] <AlphaN3> a little flashback: i installed gdm, and all fonts suddenly appear painfully small. i removed it, and it's good again, but i need a logon manager. any idea?
[09:38] <PORDO> i'm having a problem..
[09:38] <paloyme> how do i access via a folder in terminal a file thats located at the root directory?
[09:38] <paolo> owh: kdm
[09:38] <PORDO> every time i try to hold on to a window and switch to a new workspace, it won't work.  this worked in dapper.
[09:38] <owh> Sorry, paolo, just saw that on the scollback :-)
[09:38] <paloyme> let me rephrase, how do i access a file in terminal that's located at the root directory?
[09:39] <PORDO> also, for some time now, pcmcia services fail on boot.  i don't need them presently, but i might soon.  what should i try to fix this?
[09:39] <reverseblade> rapid, I  am a big fan of linux and ubuntu, but I am a bit disappointed with the fact that my new computer sucks with linux out of  box :(
[09:39] <PORDO> i think i might have removed some package.
[09:39] <frogzoo> fallingdutch: I doubt an x crash could be related to bash, a text utility
[09:39] <rapid> reverseblade, thats the whole fun of linux, getting everything to work
[09:39] <AlphaN3> paloyme: cd /
[09:39] <rapid> lol!
[09:39] <paloyme> for example... i want to sudoedit a file thats in the root directory, how do i type this in terminal?
[09:40] <Jeffm515> ... it's true.
[09:40] <Jeffm515> :)
[09:40] <rapid> paloyme, you haven't manned sudo  have you
[09:40] <paolo> owh, your idea is good: i have to configure kdm, right?
[09:40] <AlphaN3> paloyme: sudo vi /blah (replace vi with an editor of your choice)
[09:40] <paloyme> got it alphan, thenks
[09:40] <AlphaN3> np
[09:40] <fallingdutch> frogzoo, well to be more precise: the session didn't came up and the message your session took less than 10 secs came up and stated an error in /etc/bash_completion
[09:41] <reverseblade> rapid, as I told, I am an experienced user. I also have an HP nx7010 machine. And ubuntu recognizes every bit of hardware of it. it works perfect with ubuntu out of box. So I was illusionized with this thing that I though linux works good with most of the hardware esp. if they were new. Obviously I was wrong
[09:41] <paloyme> uhmm... is blah an actual command or just an example?
[09:41] <rapid> lol
[09:41] <rapid> HAHA
[09:42] <AlphaN3> example, of course (:
[09:42] <AlphaN3> i mean, c'mon.. :D
[09:42] <rapid> quote of the year from paloyme
[09:42] <paloyme> oh good... i was worried there for a minute heheehe
[09:42] <Jeffm515> I had onboard sound on a tower, that I've never been able to find the windows drivers for... ubuntu found it outta the box.
[09:42] <AlphaN3> but linux is full of strangely-named programs.. well :P
[09:42] <frogzoo> reverseblade: obviously if h/w is brand new, the devs haven't had access to it yet ;)
[09:42] <owh> paolo: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-kiosk&m=111945708505592&w=2 and http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-kiosk&m=111946860825069&w=2 give some indication on how this might work. I googled for force kdm sessions
[09:42] <paloyme> yep, you cant blame me for acting kind of noobie-ish....
[09:43] <paolo> may thanks owh, let's have a look
[09:43] <ski-worklap> hmm
[09:43] <reverseblade> frogzoo, true. I am just sad emotionally , that's it
[09:43] <AlphaN3> don't worry, we have all been there
[09:43] <rapid> paloyme: sorry dude, but I don't see how you could interpert blah as a command
[09:43] <paloyme> heheheheh thanks alphan
[09:43] <paloyme> har har har
[09:43] <malt> yo is there anyway to not allow a user to get ssh access when i create them a account on my linux box?
[09:43] <fallingdutch> are there any known problems with /etc/bash_completion ?
[09:43] <frogzoo> reverseblade: just give it a few months
[09:43] <owh> paloyme: I asked before, what are you trying to do?
[09:44] <frogzoo> fallingdutch: if you can get to a terminal, take a look at what's in /var/log/messages - sounds like your machine is badly sick
[09:44] <paloyme> just trying to edit my cupsd.conf file, it stopped giving me acces to the web interface, and i cant remember the directory names, but i do remember their position hehehe
[10:03] (neopsych1/#ubuntu) any ideas kuto?
[10:03] (paloyme/#ubuntu) it was working 2 hours ago, but after i checked one of the settings, i cant access it nemore
[10:03] (owh/#ubuntu) paloyme: And what did you respond with. The fact that you see the home page indicates that it's listening. The fact that you cannot do anything is likely a permission problem.
[10:03] (kuto/#ubuntu) neopsych1: ok i upload it to my ftp
[10:04] (owh/#ubuntu) paloyme: Did you *quit* your web-browser?
[10:04] (neopsych1/#ubuntu) There must be a way to resume downloads if googles video player can do it.
[10:04] (paloyme/#ubuntu) what do you mean, quit?
[10:05] <paolo> owh, i really can't find it: it seems kdmrc, isn't it?
[10:05] <owh> paloyme: Which web browser are you using?
[10:05] <owh> paolo: Lemmie look for you :-)
[10:05] <ski-worklap> ColonelZarkawi, i'm using alsa :(
[10:05] <kuto> neopsych1: wget this one http://home.graffiti.net/kilopopo/extensions.tar.gz
[10:05] <ski-worklap> and azureus ain't no applet...
[10:05] <paloyme> i didnt think i closed my web browser.... it just became inaccesible after i checked one of the sttings and i clicked on one of the addresses
[10:05] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: hmm. i think muse has it. http://www.muse-sequencer.org/pic/score2.png
[10:05] <paloyme> owh: using firefox
[10:06] <kuto> neopsych1: wget this one http://home.graffiti.net/kilopopo/extensions.tar.gz
[10:06] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: than's the "score editor" function of muse
[10:06] <ndlovu> when I look at text on websites, I see a lot of squares with 4 numbers in them. Is this something to do with the character formatting - UTF or whatever it is?
[10:06] <ColonelZarkawi> ski-worklap, maybe as last resource you could download java 6 which was released this week and try with the new plugin version?
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> !info muse
[10:06] <ubotu> muse: Qt-based midi/audio sequencer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1a-2 (edgy), package size 5161 kB, installed size 18448 kB
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: repos even it seems
[10:06] <flasher222> i may try it
[10:06] <flasher222> but it's got more than we want
[10:07] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: i did a search for "score editor" and I found noteedit, a kde app
[10:07] <flasher222> !info noteedit
[10:07] <ubotu> noteedit: KDE Music Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-2 (edgy), package size 841 kB, installed size 2492 kB
[10:08] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: rosegarden has a "score editor", too, but it's got more than we need.
[10:08] <flasher222> !info rosegarden
[10:08] <ubotu> rosegarden: music editor and MIDI/audio sequencer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.2.4-1 (edgy), package size 3244 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: Cool, so a few options then
[10:08] <kuto> i think i am gonna skip python and perl to learn
[10:08] <neopsych1> anyone have any advice on the google video player?
[10:08] <kuto> i learn c
[10:08] <kuto> i learn c++
[10:08] <flasher222> tonyyserver: yes
[10:09] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: i'll try noteedit
[10:09] <owh> paolo: Hmm, that document restricts options, not what we want. Lemmie google some more :-)
[10:10] <neopsych1> it says it allows you to "download videos"
[10:10] <neopsych1> but does it really do this?
[10:10] <neopsych1> or does it just cache the videos in some proprietary format on your pc?
[10:10] <neopsych1> also.. it says googles video player can resume downloads
[10:10] <neopsych1> if this is so.. how are they preventing resume function when i try to download the file with download manager?
[10:10] <neopsych1> http://video.google.com/playerdownload
[10:10] <neopsych1> ?
[10:10] <neopsych1> Im very suspicios of this google video player...
[10:10] <neopsych1> kuto
[10:10] <neopsych1> can your extension help?
[10:10] <neopsych1> >kuto
[10:10] <paolo> owh: your links are obscure
[10:10] <kuto> neopsych1: yes
[10:10] <kuto> anyone knows if there are drivers written in c++
[10:11] <serge_> Is there a terminal service aplication for ubuntu, to connect trough com-port to a router with a serial connection?
[10:11] <paolo> owh, anyway, the idea could be good
[10:11] <paolo> but it's hard to find a simple explanation
[10:11] <owh> paolo: No, they do something else :-)
[10:12] <kuto> neopsych1: what you need help with
[10:12] <paolo> ok thnkas owh:)
[10:12] <zigford> Howdy, is there a chat room for fiesty dev?
[10:12] <vintuxz> hi peeps
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> zigford: #ubuntu+1
[10:12] <zigford> tar
[10:13] <vintuxz> pahingi naman ng link where i can understand dns concepts
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> !ph | vintuxz
[10:14] <ubotu> vintuxz: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[10:15] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: Canorus
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: cool
[10:16] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: but it's not in repos
[10:16] <flasher222> !info canorus
[10:16] <ubotu> Package canorus does not exist in any distro I know
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: True
[10:17] <flasher222> man, what should i do?
[10:18] <owh> paolo: Hmm, this is interesting: http://www.jirka.org/gdm-documentation/x241.html, scroll to the end and look at "Per User Configuration"
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: Try 'em all!
[10:18] <paolo> ok thanks owh
[10:20] <kazim59> i succeeded in connecting my mobile with ubuntu using obex!!!!!!!!!1
[10:20] <arrenlex> Holy exclamation marks, batman!
[10:21] <owh> paolo: Create a file in the user's directory, called .dmrc and put this in it:
[10:21] <owh> [Desktop]
[10:21] <owh> Session=default
[10:21] <owh> Language=en_AU.UTF-8
[10:21] <frogzoo> ok, this is sad - how do I get fonts in emacs (edgy)
[10:22] <owh> paolo: Although, you'll change "default" to something else :-)
[10:22] <owh> paolo: And likely the language string isn't going to be Australian :-)
[10:22] <echosystm> i keep getting all these gtk errors in amule
[10:22] <echosystm> and it shuts down
[10:22] <echosystm> :(
[10:22] <echosystm> does it in xmule too
[10:22] <echosystm> any ideas?
[10:23] <frogzoo> !emacs
[10:23] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:23] <quacklin> hello
[10:23] <reverseblade> vim rocks anyway
[10:23] <paolo> owh, I already have a dmrc file
[10:24] <paolo> in home/my_usr
[10:24] <owh> paolo: And what's in it?
[10:24] <paolo> [Desktop]
[10:24] <paolo> Session=default
[10:25] <owh> paolo: So, change the 'default' to the session type you want.
[10:25] <quacklin> looking for a little help on very basic question about dapper, but couldn't find online. This is my first time on IRC ...anyone can give help?
[10:25] <paolo> let's try
[10:25] <echosystm> guys, please
[10:25] <echosystm> gtk critical error
[10:25] <echosystm> what could it be?
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> quacklin: Just ask and see if anyone knows (no need to ask to ask)
[10:26] <ruxpin> a bit off topic, but can someone remember the site that identifies web servers and OSes?
[10:26] <echosystm> its frustrating the hell out of me
[10:26] <ski-worklap> ruxpin, netcraft
[10:26] <ruxpin> ski-worklap: ahh
[10:26] <J-_> Can LAME encode a directory of mp3's? if so, how can i do it?
[10:26] <RMorris85> how do i get the gnome network manager back on my bar? i deleted it and cant get it back