[13:52] <Katronix> ioria, yes
[13:52] <flux242> 3.19 has no ondemand governer any longer. They removed it
[13:53] <hrob2> nevermind, polkitd runs on ubuntu by default
[13:53] <mcphail> Katronix: no, unless the author has set up the configure script to do that
[13:54] <Linus_> Katronix: yes
[13:54] <ioria> Katronix,    what are you compiling ?
[13:54] <r0x> flux242: I'm on 14.04
[13:54] <Katronix> I'm trying to compile libbluray for VLC
[13:55] <Katronix> ioria, trying to compile libbluray for vlc
[13:55] <ioria> Katronix,    where did you take it ?
[13:55] <r0x> btw, I think it's linux itself that is more powerhungry then windows
[13:55] <r0x> *than
[13:56] <ioria> Katronix,    here http://www.videolan.org/developers/libbluray.html ?
[13:56] <Katronix> ioria, git clone http://git.videolan.org/git/libbluray.git
[13:56] <net2014> if you want to upgrade your hdd to say a double capacity, can you clone old hdd to new hdd, so that you ubuntu, it's apps, its servers,  it's configuration etc will remain intact in the new hdd? and you will be able to normally boot your ubuntu?
[13:56] <flux242> r0x: you might install powertop and paly around with it.
[13:56] <ioria> yep
[13:56] <Linus_> Katronix:   sudo apt-get build-dep libbluray
[13:56] <r0x> I've already done it, flux242
[13:57] <r0x> nothing changes
[13:57] <Linus_> Katronix: that auto-finds needed Deps
[13:57] <flux242> you see bad?
[13:57] <ioria> oh, it's big
[13:57] <Katronix> thanks Linus_
[13:57] <flux242> everything should be 'good' when you unplug the power cable
[13:57] <Linus_> Katronix: y not install it from the repos?
[13:57] <r0x> in the past I've tried all sorts of thing to fix the situation but nothing worked
[13:57] <hrob2> r0x: yes, the main linux dev community is not light-weight laptop users --- I also recall a few years ago, anyway, some energy saving protocols were still ill-supported on linux
[13:58] <flux242> r0x: worked for me
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> laptop-mode-tools to the rescue
[13:58] <Katronix> Linus_, is it available from the repos?
[13:58] <Linus_> Katronix: i have libbluray1  version 1:06.2-1  in my repos
[13:58] <ioria> Katronix,    i don't see a configure ...
[13:59] <hrob2> hrob2: r0x:  linux has been more supported high-availability cloud platform providers than laptop manufacturers
[13:59] <Katronix> ioria, you have to bootstrap first
[13:59] <Linus_> Katronix: compiling should only be a last resort, cuz it can mess things up
[14:00] <Katronix> Linus_, okay I have libbluray1 also installed latest version, so I guess I'm missing something else for VLC to play a purchased BluRay
[14:00] <Linus_> Katronix:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libbluray&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:01] <flux242> r0x: pm-utils has replaced laptop-mode-tools long ago
[14:02] <r0x> flux242: how it works?
[14:02] <Linus_> flux242: how does that compare to TLP? better?
[14:02] <flux242> and now systemd kind of replaced pm-utils. It can't handle lid close events though
[14:03] <r0x> gh
[14:03] <r0x> but is linux that sucks on laptop, I think
[14:03] <Katronix> If I needed to verify what LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set to, shouldn't set | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH tell me?
[14:04] <flux242> r0x: if your graphics card supported well then linux is fine on laptops
[14:04] <r0x> I have the integrated one
[14:04] <r0x> but the power consumption compared to windows is huge
[14:05] <wahyu> hi guys
[14:05] <r0x> I think because of better drivers
[14:05] <r0x> or better optimized
[14:06] <flux242> r0x: I have additional hooks for pm-utils to make powertop report good
[14:06] <wahyu> how to hack wifi guys :P
[14:06] <flux242> wahyu: you need wifi hack tool
[14:07] <trixtator> r0x, have you tried powertop --auto-tune ?
[14:07] <ioria> Katronix,   ./ configure --disable-udf
[14:08] <r0x> trixtator: yes
[14:08] <flux242> r0x: now powertop reports 3.5Watt usage and about 10 hours of work
[14:09] <trixtator> flux242, what laptop do you have?
[14:09] <hrob2> ok I got even further.
[14:09] <flux242> r0x: acer c740
[14:09] <r0x> flux242: for me 10Watt usage
[14:09] <r0x> gh
[14:09] <hrob2> I want to add an access policy for a program to access all input devices under /dev/input/event*
[14:10] <flux242> but I'm not on ubuntu!
[14:10] <hrob2> should I simply run a script during my app install adding this policy to /etc/polkit-1/
[14:10] <flux242> I only have ubuntu base system and very light DE
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> flux242  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:10] <trixtator> r0x, depending on your model it is not that bad
[14:11] <r0x> trixtator: but it's the same problem that I have in years and years with linux on laptop
[14:12] <flux242> but another laptop I have - thinkpad e300 iirc, only works for 2-3 hours with the same adjustment. So it depends
[14:12] <trixtator> flux242, I am using xubuntu.
[14:12] <flux242> trixtator: with xubuntu I have 1 watt more
[14:13] <brycker> hi!
[14:13] <flux242> trixtator: I mean with xubuntu I have 1 watt more than with my customized DE
[14:13] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused
[14:14] <brycker> #asd
[14:14] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused
[14:14] <Punkoivan> haidar, you sshd config ok?
[14:15] <Linus_> flux242: what DE you use?
[14:15] <trixtator> flux242, I have a asus n56vz. Low powerconsumption is not one of its favours. ;)
[14:15] <flux242> with acer c720 I could even go below 3 Watt
[14:15] <Linus_> fluxbox? flux242
[14:15] <flux242> no, I'm using i3
[14:17] <haidar> punkoivan I can open the server in  desktop but how can I check the configration
[14:17] <AlexPortable> Why can't I install virtualbox-guest-x11 package? Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: virtualbox-guest-x11: depends xorg-video-abi-15, xserver-xorg-core. E: Unable to corect problems,
[14:17] <AlexPortable> you have held broken packages.
[14:18] <trixtator> flux242, how is the keyboard of your acer?
[14:18] <flux242> trixtator: in which sense?
[14:18] <trixtator> flux242, typing quality
[14:18] <flux242> good
[14:18] <haidar> punkoivan I can open the server in  desktop but how can I check the configration
[14:20] <flux242> it needs to be remapped of course because its chromebook. Apart from that its quite ok
[14:20] <Punkoivan> haidar you can open /etc/ssh/sshd in your editor and check it
[14:21] <trixtator> ok. still looking for a cheap portable, because my laptop is much too heavy for everday travel
[14:21] <trixtator> any problems installing ubuntu?
[14:21] <flux242> I wouldn't recomment acer c740 at the moment
[14:21] <Linus_> Is there a command for "sudo apt-get update"  where you dont need the "sudo" or to enter ur password?
[14:22] <k1l> Linus_: no
[14:22] <flux242> intel graphics drm drivers have serious issues
[14:22] <Katronix> well discovered my issue, the file at http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/files/KEYDB.cfg is really really old, and doesn't know the proper code to decrypt the video
[14:22] <trixtator> flux242, what would you recommend?
[14:24] <flux242> acer c720 worked very good for me but the hardware is a bit outdated now. I only upgraded to acer c740 because i needed 4gb ram
[14:24] <Mushi_> hi everyone
[14:24] <AlexPortable> anyone?
[14:25] <Mushi_> hi
[14:25] <flux242> trixtator: still acer c720 is a chromebook - not for everbody
[14:25] <haidar> punkoivan the ssh in desktop work but in server don't work
[14:25] <Mushi_> whois mushi
[14:27] <haidar> punkoivan the ssh in desktop work but in server don't work
[14:28] <sruli> hi, i hae a little question about zenity, i have a script which pops up a warning using zenity, however the script wait for the user to hit OK before the script continues, how can I make the script continue regardless if the user hits OK?
[14:29] <flux242> sruli: you should dump zenity. use yad instead, it's almost 1to1 drop in replacement and is supported
[14:30] <luvenfu> hello, i want to install grub in /dev/sda1, how i do that?
[14:30] <sruli> flux242: i dont see yad in synaptic package amnager
[14:30] <cfhowlett> luvenfu, why?  grub usually goes to /dev/sda
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> !find yad
[14:31] <flux242> sruli: http://pastebin.com/nh3d4TSY
[14:31] <luvenfu> cfhowlett: i installed ubuntu recently and it asked me to install grub, i'm using a lenovo ideapad 100, even with grub, it starts on windows 10
[14:32] <flux242> sruli: oh sorry, it was triggered as spam
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !uefi | luvenfu you need to set up your uefi would be my bet
[14:32] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"
[14:32] <sruli> flux242: which version of ubuntu?
[14:32] <flux242> sruli: 15.10
[14:33] <sruli> flux242: i checked on 14.04, i see it in 15.10 now
[14:33] <luvenfu> cfhowlett: ok, i will enable my uefi, i disabled this because i needed for install ubuntu throught pendrive and uefi blocks this, thanks
[14:33] <flux242> sruli: if you are on 14.04 then just take a deb from launchpad. It needs no dependecies
[14:33] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:34] <sruli> flux242: my intention was to use it on 15.10 anyway, where can i find docs for it?
[14:34] <terrasapien> s
[14:34] <flux242> sruli: but i can't tell you if it will solve your particular problem. 'man yad'
[14:35] <flux242> sruli: zenity has 40Megs of dependent packages!
[14:35] <flux242> sruli: yad is only 150k
[14:36] <sruli> flux242: i dont mind going to yad, but i need docs on how to use, man is good to find a option, not to read how it works
[14:37] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:39] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:39] <vpassapera> I have two nvidia cards with an SLI Bridge, trying to set it up with 3 monitors. This is my config: https://gist.github.com/vpassapera/aa8f14cef434742f74c9
[14:40] <vpassapera> When I try to turn on xinerama with screen 0 and 1 on, i get a completely black screen. Otherwise, I get 2 monitors and the 3rd one with an x cursor and black
[14:40] <vpassapera> I tried turning SLI on, but that kills the second screen....Not sure how to proceed here as documentation is sparse
[14:40] <vpassapera> any help appreciated
[14:41] <kelvintza> hello here
[14:42] <hai> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:44] <hai> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:45] <flux242> sruli: you could start yad dialog in a background so that your script works along
[14:46] <hai> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:47] <hai> ssh open in server but cannot open in desktop what should i do????
[14:48] <ortsvorsteher> hai, you have ssh server installed on target system?
[14:48] <homa> and allowed you in target system?
[14:49] <homa> hai : what's your error?
[14:49] <hai> homa I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:50] <hai> ortsvorsteher yes
[14:50] <homa> do you have account on target system?
[14:51] <homa> and password
[14:51] <hai> homa yes
[14:53] <hai> thanks the problem solved ssh didn't create on desktop
[14:59] <basnapster> hi does anyone know how to change my ip address?
[15:00] <basnapster> i am on 15.04
[15:02] <mharvey> basnapster: on the bar at the top of the screen you should have a networking indicator
[15:02] <mharvey> basnapster: choose edit connections
[15:04] <love_> I plugged in my Nexus 5, originally it worked fine as a USB mass storage device, now all of a sudden, without having made any relevant changes on either device (to my knowledge), it does not automount
[15:04] <love_> I don't know what to do.
[15:05] <mharvey> basnapster: you pick your adapter and there is ip4 and ip6 tabs. by default its dhcp (dynamic ip assignment from router). you cant change what it issues to you without altering config on router. you can choose static though
[15:05] <xangua> love_: what does appear in your notifications (phone) when you plug it?
[15:07] <love_> If I go to settings, under erase USB storage it says MTP or PTP function active, under the other one it says insert USB to mount, but its grayed out, they both are.
[15:08] <love_> Nothing initially pops up on the phone without my looking for it.
[15:08] <love_> It never did though, when it was working properly
[15:09] <Bleakwise> having a problem
[15:10] <Bleakwise> i need to reinstall udev package, but it fails because initramfs command is not available
[15:10] <Bleakwise> so i try to install initramfs-tools, and it fails because udev is not installed.....
[15:10] <love_> I'm downloading 16.04, this production machine I heavily rely on needs a boost.
[15:10] <love_> In stability
[15:10] <Bleakwise> so i try to install udev, and it fails because initramfs command is not available
[15:11] <cfhowlett> love_, install 16.04 will NOT give you stability.  It's not even in BETA yet!
[15:11] <love_> Lol cfhowlett sorry I had to troll that. I'm a web developer, all my reliability needs are dependent on external storage.
[15:11] <OerHeks> 16.04 alfa2 in a few days
[15:12] <love_> Alpha2, kewl.
[15:12] <Bleakwise> admittingly my bud boniked up his box pretty bad, he tried to install systemd, and when that didn't work, he chrooted back into it and tried to upgrade 14.04 LTS to development 14.10
[15:12] <cfhowlett> love_, you know what they say about a joke you have to explain?  "It wasn't funny."
 You mean like from the lock screen?  But it works fine.
[15:16] <xangua> love_: you mean 5.1 gaps? And you're using cm13? That can't be good
[15:16] <love_> xangua, it's a 12.1 snapshot, and yah that's what I mean. It really does work fine.
[15:17] <LostSoul_> Hello
[15:17] <LostSoul_> I setup ldap(libnss-ldap) + kerbos
[15:17] <LostSoul_> I gave users access to server based on AD
[15:17] <LostSoul_> Now, my samba users can only join if they are accessibly by ssh/ldap - what can I do to give them access based on AD?
[15:19] <xangua> love_: what Ubuntu release is this? Also cm12 is Android 5
[15:24] <sweb> how can accept special port from multiple ip addreses ... <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> ... not rage ip
[15:24] <sweb> using ufw
[15:35] <Bleakwise> anyone know why i can't install initramfs-tools?
[15:35] <Bleakwise> it wants to intsall 0.103ubuntu4.2 instead
[15:36] <ioria> !info initramfs-tools trusty
[15:38] <Bleakwise> pretty sure the issue is with a failed lts to 14.10 upgrade attempt
[15:38] <ioria> Bleakwise, 14.10 is dead
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Bleakwise, you "upgraded" to a non-supported OS ...
[15:39] <Bleakwise> does LTS upgrade to 15.10 direcly?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> no
[15:39] <ioria> Bleakwise, in theory it should jump it and upgrade to 15.04
[15:39] <k1l> Bleakwise: no
[15:39] <cfhowlett> 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10
[15:40] <Bleakwise> cfhowlett that was what i thought, the person was using the do-release-upgrade -d method, of changing the config from lts to "normal"
[15:40] <SchrodingersScat> !EOLUpgrade
[15:41] <LostSoul_> LOL, second time no response :)
[15:41] <LostSoul_> Thanks anyway ^^
[15:41] <k1l> Bleakwise: the -d option is just plain stupid, but spread all over the internet because people dont know what it does
[15:41] <Bleakwise> it failed, so i think that probably has something to do with the issue
[15:41] <Bleakwise> oh no doubt the system was abused
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Bleakwise, more like broke and busted.
[15:42] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, no idea why you'd do -d, normally I -m but that may be placebo
[15:42] <k1l> what doesn "lsb_release -d" tell and what target is in sources.list?
[15:42] <k1l> *targetrelease
[15:43] <BluesKaj>  -d is for the next devel release and for LTS some think the upgrade will go to 16.04
[15:43] <Bleakwise> should i try do-release-upgrade after setting it back to LTS? i mean at this point i'm just looking for a quick way to drop anything not from the trusty repo, and replace any packages not from trusty with trusty
[15:44] <k1l> Bleakwise: where does it link now? the sources.list?
[15:44] <Bleakwise> the repos all point to trusty
[15:44] <k1l> Bleakwise: and what packages are installed already? if there are already some 14.04+ packages installed there is no real way back
[15:45] <ioria> Bleakwise, you cannot downgrade
[15:45] <Bleakwise> BluesKayj: is that right? -d goes to 16.04?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Bleakwise, only if you're on 15.10
[15:46] <Bleakwise> i see, okay. any way i can see what repo packages are from? dpkg -l | grep ?
[15:46] <Bleakwise> oh, and i don't have direct access to the system atm either =/
[15:47] <ioria> Bleakwise, cat /etc/issue   , uname -r   and lsb_release -d
[15:47] <SchrodingersScat> how do you know all repos lead to trusty then?
[15:47] <Bleakwise> screenshot of the sources.list file
[15:47] <Bleakwise> over skype
[15:48]  * OerHeks facepalms
[15:48] <cfhowlett> lol
[15:48] <Bleakwise> =/
[15:49] <Bleakwise> tbh probably going to tell the guy to backup his sql databases and whatever else, scrap the system and reimport
[15:50] <Bleakwise> it's a slack server
[15:51] <Bleakwise> hardly used even, the git repos the only really valuable thing, and thankfully that's super easy to solve, we can boot up ssh via a chroot env
[15:51] <Bleakwise> even if not it would just be a matter of copying the directory
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Bleakwise, he can do a clean install to a wnated OS if he has separate / nd /home partitions by installing to / and setting the mountpoint of the /home  in ubiquity manual partitioning
[15:53] <BluesKaj> but most users don't take the trouble to set up separate / and /home partitions
[15:53] <Wulf> Hi
[15:54] <Wulf> What's the proper way to run a script only on the very first boot of a server?
[15:54] <Bleakwise> seperate home partitions and exclusive use of something like cgroups in /home directories would be sweet, any better ideas?
[15:54] <Bleakwise> like, docker
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !server | Wulf
[15:55] <Wulf> cfhowlett: I think the same question would apply to desktop systems too
[15:55] <BluesKaj> personally i woudn't bother with docker
[15:56] <OerHeks> Wulf, here is a script that destroys itself, http://askubuntu.com/questions/161682/how-to-run-a-script-only-a-single-time-ever
[15:57] <OerHeks> instead of removal you can rename it too, to get the idea
[15:57] <ubuntu662> hi
[15:58] <Bleakwise>  okay filnal question
[15:58] <Bleakwise> lets say you did do-release-upgrade and it failed
[15:58] <Bleakwise> say it did update some pacakges etc, have you commited taht system to doing the upgrade?
[15:58] <zaggynl> aaaaaagh pulseaudio
[15:58] <k1l> Bleakwise: depends when it failed
[15:58] <zaggynl> either sc2 crashes or skype crashes
[15:58] <BluesKaj> nothing would be installed
[15:58] <zaggynl> fiddle with variables in pulse.conf, no luck
[15:59] <Bleakwise> k1l: got ya
[15:59] <k1l> Bleakwise: thats why i asked what lsb_release -d and sources.list shows.
[15:59] <Bleakwise> ahh right on
[15:59] <k1l> shows before someone changed it again
[15:59] <ubuntu662> can anybody recommend a good usb stick to run ubuntu off?
[15:59] <Bleakwise> will lsb_release work in a chroot env?
[15:59] <k1l> Bleakwise: yes
[16:00] <ikonia> ubuntu662: anyone will work
[16:00] <BluesKaj> any usb stick that will hold a bootable OS, ubuntu662
[16:00] <k1l> ubuntu662: anyone that is 2gb or lager
[16:00] <k1l> *larger
[16:00] <Bleakwise> lsbrelease reads out Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[16:01] <k1l> Bleakwise: so the upgrade failed/was stoppen before packages were changed? did you change the sources.list file?
[16:01] <ubuntu662> for speed can I run steam of it at decent speeds?
[16:01] <Wulf> ubuntu662: http://static1.bornrichimages.com/cdn2/683/384/91/c/wp-content/uploads/s3/images/2009/02/02/luxury-usb-drives_FMpcm_48.jpg
[16:01] <k1l> ubuntu662: no
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu662, no
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Bleakwise, that's agood OS , still stable, mature and well supported
[16:01] <ikonia> ubuntu662: no
[16:01] <k1l> ubuntu662: you want a nativ install if you want speed
[16:01] <ubuntu662> :(
[16:01] <ikonia> you'll struggle to run most steam games from a full hard disk install, adding an "in ram" os will just not fly
[16:01] <Bleakwise> sources.list was left with 14.04, so, there was another issue
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu662, steam in ram hungry as is ubuntu.  *ALWAYS* runs slower on a USB.  learn to dual boot
[16:02] <Bleakwise> the system was "updated" to use systemd
[16:02] <Bleakwise> of course 14.04 uses upstart
[16:02] <k1l> Bleakwise: ok, so its a messed up system and not caused by an release upgrade
[16:02] <ubuntu662> ok thank for the help bye
[16:02] <Bleakwise> correct: i suspect that could have done something to udev and upstart, or the kernel
[16:03] <AlexPortable> Why can't I install virtualbox-guest-x11 package? Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: virtualbox-guest-x11: depends xorg-video-abi-15, xserver-xorg-core. E: Unable to corect problems,
[16:03] <AlexPortable> you have held broken packages.
[16:03] <homa> hi every body
[16:03] <Bleakwise> lets make it simple, how can i get back to the default kernel?
[16:03] <Bleakwise> va apt-get
[16:03] <ikonia> just select the kernel from grub
[16:03] <ikonia> you don't need to touch apt-get or anything like that
[16:04] <ioria> Bleakwise, which kernel are you using ?   uname -r
[16:11] <Bleakwise> think i found the problem
[16:12] <Bleakwise> a systemd ppa installed in sources.list.d
[16:12] <Bleakwise> A problem at least
[16:12] <Bleakwise> going to remove that and apt-get upgrade and apt-get update
[16:12] <geirha> only if its filename ends with .list
[16:12] <Bleakwise> and purge that ppa, and it does
[16:12] <HamRadio> How safe is it to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04?
[16:13] <Wulf> HamRadio: 93.85%
[16:13] <ikonia> Bleakwise: seems like a bad idea
[16:13] <cfhowlett> HamRadio, upgrade from a supported OS to Alpha release?  no problem!
[16:13] <k1l> HamRadio: when you need to ask dont use alphas
[16:13] <ikonia> as removing systemd won't "fix" a missing init
[16:13] <llldino> Anyone else get a massive update from apt today?
[16:13] <Bleakwise> actually no, going to copy those files back,a nd run ppapurge
[16:13] <ikonia> llldino: what does it matter what others get
[16:13] <HamRadio> Well, I meant once 16.04 becomes stable
[16:14] <ikonia> llldino: others will have different systems from you
[16:14] <k1l> !ppapurge | Bleakwise
[16:14] <cfhowlett> HamRadio, it's stable when it's released in April.  Otherwise, consider your system a testing bed
[16:14] <llldino> ikonia, Soem coreutils stuff in there, I was just curious
[16:14] <k1l> HamRadio: when 16.04 is released its fine to upgrade. upgrades are automated tested
[16:14] <ikonia> llldino: it can be triggered by other things, though, other peoples systems don't really have any mirror impact to yours
[16:15] <HamRadio> Cool, thanks!
[16:16] <llldino> ikonia, It does when it involves apt, systemd, passwd, perl amongst others
[16:17] <ikonia> llldino: no it doesn't
[16:17] <llldino> Just wondering if there was another bug like they found thursday
[16:17] <ikonia> as other people may have different packages involved which will offer more/less than you're seeing
[16:17] <ikonia> llldino: you could either state "your" problem/question, or read the changes logs to see what's changed on your system
[16:22] <Bleakwise> that ppa explains the depenedency hell / conflicts, i have my work cleaned out for me cleaning any crap from that ppa out and resolving deps after doing so, thanks for the help
[16:25] <AlexPortable> How can I get a higher resolution than 640x480 in ubuntu in virtualbox?
[16:25] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, install guest additions
[16:25] <AlexPortable> I did
[16:25] <AlexPortable> I can't install virtualbox-guest-x11, so I did via the virtualbox menu
[16:25] <AlexPortable> but to no avail
[16:26] <k1l> install the guest additions. than it will work
[16:26] <AlexPortable> I have them installed
[16:26] <k1l> and rebooted?
[16:26] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:26] <AlexPortable>  i'm installing it again now
[16:27] <k1l> which vbox version (ubuntu repo or website)? which guest additions (vbox included iso or ubuntu guest repo)?
[16:27] <AlexPortable> 14.04
[16:27] <AlexPortable> 4.2 website
[16:27] <k1l> so use the vbox included guest additions from that vbox
[16:27] <AlexPortable> I did
[16:27] <AlexPortable> installed, rebooted, same issue
[16:28] <k1l> no
[16:28] <AlexPortable> no?
[16:28] <k1l> was there an issue?
[16:28] <AlexPortable> nope
[16:28] <AlexPortable> it said press enter to close this window
[16:28] <AlexPortable> any commands to verify it's installed?
[16:28] <k1l> what does dmesg tell?
[16:29] <AlexPortable> virtualbox bios, virtualbox usb tablet
[16:29] <cfhowlett> tablet?
[16:29] <AlexPortable> yes input device tablet
[16:29] <AlexPortable> at least that's what virtualbox is set to by default
[16:35] <EliKLAAS> hey hey
[16:35] <EliKLAAS> i have a question
[16:36] <k1l> EliKLAAS: you know the deal: just ask
[16:36] <EliKLAAS> how can i update "everything" like in arch but on ubuntu
[16:36] <AlexPortable> nvm got it working now thanks k1l
[16:36] <k1l> EliKLAAS: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:36] <EliKLAAS> ah
[16:36] <EliKLAAS> okay thanks!
[16:39] <artois> EliKLAAS: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta
[16:40] <ikonia> he's not using pacman
[16:40] <ikonia> he's using ubuntu
[16:40] <mharvey> kll: doesn't full-upgrade just give you the next official release. Isnt arch a "bleeding edge" rolling distro?
[16:40] <tuxedo> Hello
[16:40] <ikonia> they are not the same commands even in that list
[16:40] <ikonia> apt-get distrupgrade will bring everything up to current
[16:40] <tuxedo> I'd like to know how to clean some errors on the update option
[16:41] <ikonia> the update option ?
[16:41] <tuxedo> yes
[16:41] <tuxedo> it give this
[16:41] <tuxedo> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/qtcam/precise/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:41] <tuxedo> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/qtcam/precise/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:41] <tuxedo> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:41] <tuxedo> tuxedo@tu
[16:41] <ikonia> remove that PPA
[16:41] <EliKLAAS> artois: he is right i am now using ubuntu
[16:41] <k1l> mharvey: no, it doesnt bring you to the next ubuntu release. and for what archlinux is better ask the arch guys or ##linux
[16:42] <EliKLAAS> xD
[16:42] <artois> EliKLAAS: it's immaterial; it answers your question and any future questions about how to do something on Ubuntu that you already know how to do on Arch
[16:42] <k1l> tuxedo: use ppa-purge to remove that ppa.
[16:43] <EliKLAAS> hahaha okay
[16:43] <EliKLAAS> :P
[16:44] <tuxedo> tell me the line command
[16:46] <asus_ux501> Hi all, for those of you who remember my challenge in installing ubuntu on ASUS ux501vw, I was finally able to install it on it, the details could be read at https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/254192/asus-zenbook-linux-install-fails
[16:47] <zeysmo> hello there. for some reason i can'
[16:47] <zeysmo> t
[16:47] <zeysmo> write to usb sticks anymore
[16:47] <ikonia> probably the usb stick has worn out / faulty
[16:48] <ikonia> if you've done the basic checks
[16:48] <zeysmo> fsck says the dirty bit is set, then i run fsck -a /dev/xyz and it says the dirty bit has been removed
[16:48] <zeysmo> and running fsck again tells me the dirty bit is NOT set anymore
[16:49] <zeysmo> then i safely remove the stick via nautilus and remove it, then put it back in and the dirty bit is set again O_O
[16:49] <ikonia> when it's clean and you write to it
[16:49] <brahim> hi
[16:50] <zeysmo> ikonia: i've tried three different sticks now. also they work on an other laptop running ubuntu aswell.
[16:50] <ikonia> that wasn't what I asked
[16:50] <tuxedo> man purge
[16:51] <ikonia> I asked if the stick you're having a problem can be written to after it's cleaned
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> !ppapurge | tuxedo
[16:51] <zeysmo> ah, no
[16:51] <zeysmo> trying to write directly after fsck -a. didn't work
[16:51] <zeysmo> with any stick
[16:53] <Trickyj> hi
[16:54] <zeysmo> ikonia: do you have any ideas of what i could try :/?
[16:57] <ioria> zeysmo, what filesystem ? vfat ?   anyway https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[16:59] <AlexPortable> if i make changes to my system with dconf-editor which file are they being changed>?
[16:59] <AlexPortable> I want to change something fro mthe commandline
[16:59] <zeysmo> ioria: fat32
[17:00] <zeysmo> but ioria: it's not the stick. it happens with all sticks and only on my machine. the same sticks work on an other ubuntu machine
[17:01] <ioria> zeysmo, i think because it's now in the kernel ...
[17:01] <Bleakwise> a bit off topic, what would have the higher write endurance? A 500gb 850 Pro or a 1tb 850 Evo?
[17:02] <zeysmo> ioria: what's in the kernel?
[17:02] <Bleakwise> i mean, supposing i didn't abuse thne drive and was mindful of write amplification
[17:02] <ioria> zeysmo, the dirty bit
[17:03] <ChibaPet> Is there a way to enumerate service order so I can properly re-order something? I'm an Upstart noob.
[17:03] <ioria> zeysmo, take a look maybe http://serverfault.com/questions/571458/unable-to-resolve-data-corruption-warning-with-fcsk
[17:03] <zeysmo> ioria: oh, i thought the dirty bit was written on the stick...
[17:03] <ioria> zeysmo, no
[17:03] <citrix> Hi  all
[17:04] <citrix> How to add path in cmake file?
[17:04] <zbyti> hi :)\
[17:04] <zbyti> hi :)
[17:04] <citrix> Hello :)
[17:04] <ioria> zeysmo, " The dirty bit is set and cleared in the kernel, when mounting and unmounting a device "
[17:05] <citrix> I have downloaded a library i want it to compile with Opencv library path
[17:05] <zeysmo> so it should work if i just fsck -a it? but it doesn't O_O
[17:05] <zeysmo> hm
[17:05] <zeysmo> thanks for the help ioria! that's useful info :)
[17:05] <ioria> zeysmo,  the guy  did a fsck.vfat -v -a -w /dev/sdaX  after   (w --write)
[17:06] <citrix> https://github.com/OpenKinect/libfreenect2  this i downloaded but i had changed an example which use opencv lilbrary and api's how to instruct this library to compile with opencv
[17:09] <ChibaPet> So, let's say I have a service that is 'start on starting mountall'. What would the syntax be if I want to have it start *after* cryptdisks (not cryptdisks-udev, as I need the second pass to have completed.)
[17:11] <claim> Hello everyone. I am having issues with the nouveau display driver on my IdeaPad laptop. It has this NVIDIA Optmus nonsense. I can't seem to get the "nouveau" kernel module loaded at boot. So sddm fails to show. If I "modprobe nouveau" on a shell and restart sddm, everything is fine. I have put nouveau in /etc/modules.
[17:11] <ChibaPet> claim: Nouveau is buggy and probably not what you want to Optimus.
[17:11] <zeysmo> ioria: -______- is it possible that nautilus caches the dirtybit?
[17:12] <zeysmo> or the write protection
[17:12] <ioria> zeysmo,  sorry, idk
[17:12] <ChibaPet> claim: There are packages for you. bumblebee is probably what you want.
[17:12] <zeysmo> i killed nautilus now it works
[17:12] <zeysmo> GRML
[17:12] <ChibaPet> or bumblebee-nvidia
[17:12] <zeysmo> :) thanks
[17:12] <claim> ChibaPet, I have ended up with using nouveau because I can't get the nvidia binary driver to work properly.
[17:13] <ChibaPet> claim: Did you try the straight driver or the Optimus-specific stuff? Caveat: I don't have Optimus, so I've only watched people struggling with it from afar.
[17:13] <ioria> zeysmo,  happy to hear that
[17:13] <ChibaPet> Ooh, and as for my answer, I see there's a "start on started" syntax which looks right.
[17:14] <claim> ChibaPet, OK, I'll try bumblebee
[17:14] <dekr4ken> hi guys. wanted to know if any of you have any experience is mpg123 / want to stream radio to my terminal, got the program but don't seem to get the syntax right to get it going
[17:15] <ChibaPet> claim: I think there are some docs online. Half a sec and I'll look.
[17:15] <ChibaPet> claim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[17:16] <ChibaPet> claim: Note that they mention a #bumblebee channel, although there's never any way to predict how alive these things are.
[17:16] <Helvekta> Heya, has anybody ever encountered "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task"?
[17:16] <ChibaPet> bbiab, trying my new boot muckery
[17:17] <OerHeks> that bumblebee factoid is old, current is nvidia-prime
[17:17] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[17:18] <net2014> hello
[17:19] <net2014> does reboot gracefully shutdown applications?
[17:19] <net2014> and pkill appname is equal to kill -s 15 pid?  What I am trying to figure out, does reboot allow apps to close gracefully, even though they won't save my data?
[17:25] <ChibaPet> OerHeks: Ah, thanks for the correction. claim: didn't see you pipe up, so I'm highlighting you in case you didn't see it.
[17:25] <claim> ChibaPet, OerHeks thanks guys. Still working on it. Trying nvidia-prime now.
[17:25] <claim> What's the best way to set up /etc/X11/xorg.conf with this setup? nvidia-settings?
[17:26] <grey16> hello
[17:26] <ChibaPet> claim: nvidia-xconfig perhaps?
[17:26] <ChibaPet> I'm not sure how prime/bumblebee-aware it is.
[17:28] <net2014> thanks
[17:31] <transhuman_> I was told iptables-peristent is in the default ubuntu repository its not there where is it or has it been renamed?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !iptables | transhuman_ start here
[17:32] <derpititusus> Hi! I have made a folder in Home. How do i add it in the left pane under Places ?
[17:32] <SchrodingersScat> !info iptables-persistent | transhuman_
[17:33] <transhuman_> oh its been moved to universe I see
[17:33] <transhuman_> ok thanks
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> transhuman_: maybe adding the s in persistent helps?
[17:33] <transhuman_> good point SchrodingersScat
[17:34] <SchrodingersScat> derpititusus: you can't just drag the directory there?
[17:34] <derpititusus> SchrodingersScat: it didn't work no
[17:35] <Zeljko> Anyone know what can be a problem with installing STEAM from developer center ???
[17:36] <OerHeks> Zeljko, the developmentcrew can tell, sounds like a not-stable version
[17:36] <Zeljko> OerHeks what version you mean ?
[17:36] <Zeljko> ubuntu ?
[17:37] <OerHeks> i don't know where you get that dev version, we support stable versions only.
[17:37] <Zeljko> OerHeks : from ubuntu.com
[17:37] <Zeljko> 15.04
[17:37] <Zeljko> and steam from developer center
[17:37] <tgm4883> How can I permanently set my right screen to be my primary monitor. Every so often it seems to reset and make my left monitor the primary (meaning when I start full screen games in steam it pops up on my left monitor)
[17:38] <derpititusus> Hi! I have made a folder in Home. How do i add it in the left pane under Places ? Drag and drop doesn't work
[17:39] <tgm4883> derpititusus: does it need to be under places? You should be able to drag it under bookmarks
[17:39] <OerHeks> Zeljko, so from the steam site, you better ask in #steam-devel, #streamlug or #ubuntu-steam
[17:40] <derpititusus> I don't have bookmarks listed
[17:40] <tgm4883> derpititusus: hmm, not even in the menu bar?
[17:40] <derpititusus> I only have Places, Devices, Network
[17:41] <OerHeks> derpititusus, ctrl + D, if you are in that folder
[17:41] <tgm4883> OerHeks: ah, nice
[17:42] <derpititusus> OerHeks: nope
[17:42] <OerHeks> i would expect dragging would work too, but that is not available (anymore)
[17:42] <tgm4883> derpititusus: what version of ubuntu?
[17:43] <OerHeks> derpititusus, it works here, *only* if you brows into that new folder
[17:44] <derpititusus> tgm4883:  latest avail on site
[17:44] <derpititusus> 64 bit
[17:51] <dantevergil> Hello, Is there a version of emacs with integrated plugins?
[17:56] <Zamriel> sss
[17:57] <Zamriel> Hello can anyone see my messages?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Zamriel  no, you're invisible
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Zamriel  it works, we see you
[17:58] <Zamriel> Okay because I am trying to type on another channel but it tells me that it cannot send my messages.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> maybe you need to !register
[17:58] <Zamriel> Oh let me try that, first time using xChat
[17:58] <kindjes> foo
[17:59] <Zamriel> Still can't type lol
[17:59] <Zamriel> But thanks anyways MonkeyDust.
[18:01] <Canon> hello.... I have a Ubuntu server that is 14.04-3 and when i run apt-get update it cant find the update source... is there different sorce server i need to use..
[18:02] <EriC^^> Canon: can you ping google.com ? <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[18:03] <Canon> yes I can
[18:04] <EriC^^> Canon: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <EriC^^> and any errors you get when you run apt-get update
[18:05] <Canon> when i ping google i get a unknown host
[18:06] <hook> evening chaps and lasses
[18:06] <hook> usb mic in my webcam, 12.04 - couldn't for the life of me get alsamixer to pick it up
[18:07] <hook> I can see the meter picking it up in the settings panel - just that I can't pipe it out of my speakers
[18:08] <mharvey> Canon: your nameserver ips are not setup /etc/resolv.conf. manually edit your network config in settings to add a dns server
[18:08] <hook> I'm wearing headphones and this is so I can record screencasting for youtube, so I needed the feedback
[18:09] <Bashing-om> Canon: A DNS issue ? What is set for namesever ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' ?
[18:11] <Canon> ther is nothing stated
[18:12] <Bashing-om> Canon: How familiar are you with your system ? Is your router set to hand out IPs ?
[18:13] <Canon> I have my cisco switch hanfle out ips in a dhcp pool I have the name servers going to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:15] <Bashing-om> Canon: ' service resolvconf status ' ; is the service running ?
[18:16] <Canon> start/running
[18:17] <fuze>  I am trying to upgrade Kubuntu, how can I fix this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fb35y2MD/upgrade.png Terminal: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/H2bhniQr/
[18:19] <Bashing-om> Canon: Pending reconfiguring the resolvconf package . show us ' pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces ' .
[18:19] <__raven> hi
[18:19] <Remind> Hey everyone! Just a quick question if you don't mind, have a small issue. Whenever my computer sleeps, or I close the lid, I get frozen at the login screen. I can't move the mouse, press keys, or anything - it's unresponsive. Any fixes? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[18:19] <fuze> __raven:  I am trying to upgrade Kubuntu, how can I fix this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fb35y2MD/upgrade.png Terminal: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/H2bhniQr/
[18:20] <Wulf> Remind: upgrade
[18:20] <Remind> Wulf: Isn't this the latest one?  I just downloaded it from the website
[18:20] <Wulf> Remind: no, 15.10 is the current one
[18:21] <Wulf> Remind: how old is your laptop?
[18:21] <Remind> Ah, okay great, that leads me to another question, haha. Is it possible to upgrade without having to completely restart?
[18:21] <Remind> It's 2015
[18:21] <Remind> I'm a new Ubuntu user, so this is all new to me
[18:21] <Wulf> Remind: you'll need to reboot, but your files won't get deleted. Most configuration should still work afterwards
[18:21] <xwrt> pit!stop :)
[18:23] <homa> see you latter my friends
[18:25] <Remind> Installing it now, hopefully this fixes it! Thanks wulf!
[18:25] <Bashing-om> fuze: " This can be caused by: >> This can be caused by: " Try and disable all the PPAs and see if the release upgrade now completes .
[18:26]  * wyrm_77 is a newcommer to xchat and I seem to have no way to talk if this does not w
[18:26] <showaz> 16.04 ready desktop ?
[18:26] <fuze> wyrm_77: try irccloud
[18:26] <showaz> 15.10 last update broken, black frame around windows
[18:27] <Bashing-om> fuze: Bad paste ^ " >> * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu " .
[18:27] <Remind> Guess I
[18:27] <Remind> Guess I'm not upgrading, "It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages."
[18:27] <Remind> gettext
[18:27] <Remind> lib32atomic1
[18:27] <Remind> lib32gomp1
[18:27] <Remind> lib32itm1
[18:27] <Remind> lib32quadmath0
[18:28] <wyrm_77> irccloud
[18:28] <showaz> 15.10 http://i.imgur.com/bq1jnJH.png
[18:32] <wyrm_77> is irccloud a program or a command?
[18:33] <bekks> Neither nor. Irccloud is a hosting company.
[18:35] <hook> anyone got their usb mic feeding back through the speakers on 12.04? I googled the shizz out of this and came up empty
[18:37] <Pinkamena_D> has anyone successfully set up a system with bcache/enhanceio or anything like that?
[18:38] <Pinkamena_D> Some method to cache a hdd with a small ssd
[18:39] <charliet> Good morning everyone. I have looked online as to how to use my usb cabel to connect my android phobe to the internet my computer is hard wired to
[18:39] <charliet> I have one of those crappy obama phones, and the insturctions aren't straight forward. After you switch the device to install driver what do you do?
[18:41] <LonelyDanbo> is it possible that Ubuntu is updating software without my permission, or is it swapping memory to disk because I'm tabbing between a game and a web browser?
[18:41] <LonelyDanbo> I can't tell if it changes, but on the main menu of the game the system monitor reports 86% memory usage.
[18:42] <LonelyDanbo> It's bad because my HD light goes on solid for like 3+ minutes and my game freezes along with everything else.
[18:43] <bekks> Just investigate the reason, looking at top, free -m, and iotop.
[18:43] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, depends, how you configure updates, pre-downloading, or just give notice..
[18:43] <LonelyDanbo> where's that setting again?
[18:43] <bekks> Which setting?
[18:44] <LonelyDanbo> I'm in Xubuntu. settings for updates.
[18:44] <LonelyDanbo> ah. software & updates, I think.
[18:45] <SharkMa-san> is there any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1488719 ?
[18:45] <charliet> ugh the threes
[18:45] <charliet> and the flashing
[18:45] <charliet> and the butterflies
[18:45] <LonelyDanbo> hm.... I don't see an option for it to prompt me to update... just automatic or never.
[18:45] <charliet> and the chicken soup
[18:45] <charliet> and the craptastic functions of crap
[18:45] <charliet> UGH
[18:45] <OerHeks> SharkMa-san, i thought that intel nuc needs 15.10
[18:46] <SharkMa-san> OerHeks: I am running 15.10 kernel and I can confirm it is not fixed
[18:46] <LonelyDanbo> where do I update using the GUI after I turn off automatic updates?
[18:47] <LonelyDanbo> oh. right beside it? "Software Updater"?
[18:47] <OerHeks> SharkMa-san, then no use of asking about a bug in 15.04..
[18:47] <OerHeks> you might want to confirm that bugreport that it is still present in 15.10
[18:48] <SharkMa-san> people have confirmed it is still present in 4.4 kernel (15.10 using 4.2)
[18:48] <SharkMa-san> apparently there is a fix from intel, but it seems no one has tested it yet
[18:49] <LonelyDanbo> really strange. It's supposedly been updating daily automatically and yet I did a manual update and there's 300MB to download.
[18:49] <claim> OerHeks, Now I have nvidia-prime and nvidia_352 installed, ran nvidia-xconfig. If I boot via grub into "upstart" mode, I can launch sddm manually and log in. However, my resolution is only at 640x480.
[18:50] <vigneshwar> hello
[18:51] <vigneshwar> avvavvddddcdcAfeedfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[18:52] <vigneshwar> what are we discussing about
[18:53] <TJ-> SharkMa-san: the fix will be in v4.5
[18:54] <e-vent> Any able to lend me a hand with ZFS in 15.10?
[18:55] <SharkMa-san> TJ-: that's good news
[18:55] <e-vent> Do zpool and zfs need root to function?
[18:55] <TJ-> SharkMa-san: The Intel dev still doesn't understand it, but has reverted a revert of a revert :)
[18:55] <SharkMa-san> :D
[18:56] <ynix> What do you do when your computer won't respond at all, and Alt-Ctrl-F* doesn't work?  I downloaded a font with extension .deb I got a message saying that a similar font was available from a software channel
[18:56] <ChameleonSix4> hello
[18:56] <ChameleonSix4> I need help
[18:56] <ioria> ynix, usually , i wait :þ
[18:56] <e-vent> ynix, have you tried CTRL ALT F2?
[18:56] <e-vent> or the other terminals?
[18:56] <e-vent> F3 F4 etc...
[18:57] <ioria> ynix,  but depends on the issue
[18:57] <ChameleonSix4> any linux pro here
[18:57] <ynix> Yes, those don't work. And I've waited a long time.
[18:57] <e-vent> ynix, in that case it has probably crashed completely
[18:57] <TJ-> !ask | ChameleonSix4
[18:58] <ynix> That's unfortunate.
[18:58] <ioria> ynix,  what have you done before get stuck ?
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> how do i connect to wifi in ubuntu
[18:58] <fuze> Bashing-om: I deleted everthing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and it still doesnt work
[18:58] <ynix> ioria, Nothing out of the ordinary. The catalyst seems to have been launching Chromium.
[18:58] <mcphail> ynix: in a crisis, you can hold down Alt+SysRq then press "REISUB" to try to reboot the computer safely
[18:58] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: Using the network connection manager applet, if using a desktop install
[18:58] <e-vent> ChameleonSix4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> the problem is
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> i installed the terminal version only
[18:58] <mcphail> ynix: but best to try to find out what went wrong, by SSH'ing into the machine or similar
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> lol
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> iwlist config
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> ifk how to enable it
[18:59] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: you can still use Network Manager ( which is a background service) and its CLI front-end, nmcli
[18:59] <e-vent> mcphail, he said he couldnt get it to an alt terminal with Ctrl Alt F2 etc
[18:59] <SharkMa-san> TJ-: I'm not having huge problems because of it (more like some inconvenience), but it's good to hear it's going forwards
[18:59] <e-vent> so I doubt SSH in will be functioning
[18:59] <ynix> mcphail, Yeah, I could try that next time.
[18:59] <mcphail> e-vent: no matter
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> hmm
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> but i got no gui
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> lol
[18:59] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: otherwise, you'll need to manually configure wpa_supplicant via ifupdown's /etc/network/interfaces
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> i can use network manager via terminal only
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> what do  i type in
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> ?
[19:00] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[19:00] <OerHeks> good manual
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> how do i enable the interface it is disabled
[19:00] <cluelessperson> question, what's that recorder that linux mint uses?
[19:00] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: you don't need a GUI for accessing the command-line; "nmcli" is the CLI control interface, just like nm-applet is the (Gnome) GUI interface.
[19:00] <cluelessperson> I'd like to have it on ubuntu
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> ah ok
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> sec
[19:00] <Bashing-om> fuze: K; show again ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' Let's insure the package manager is in a consistent state .
[19:01] <TJ-> !wifi | ChameleonSix4
[19:01] <ChameleonSix4> network manager not installed
[19:01] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, how do we know? ask the mint channel, and if you have it, you could tell us
[19:01] <ChameleonSix4> lol
[19:01] <chimy> 15
[19:01] <ChameleonSix4> this will be hard
[19:01] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: right; so you'll either need to install it, or manually configure wpa_supplicant, according to the guides
[19:01] <hook> anyone got a usb mic working from a webcam?
[19:01] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, They're not answering, and the point is that I'd like to get it in ubuntu.  It's VERY  useful to have screenshots built in, and screen recording with FFMPEG to WEBM with a keyboard shortcut
[19:01] <hook> I just want to pipe the sound out, but it's silent
[19:02] <ChameleonSix4> how can i install it without net
[19:02] <ChameleonSix4> ?
[19:02] <e-vent> ChameleonSix4, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1403717
[19:02] <ynix> I'm excited for Unity 8. The interface looks super polished and slick. Reminds me a lot of Numix.
[19:02] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, then be patient
[19:02] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: can the PC be connected via a temporary Ethernet wired connection?
[19:02] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, I have been, those fuckers don't answer.
[19:02] <ChameleonSix4> it is a laptop
[19:03] <ChameleonSix4> but the interface of ethernet is disabled also
[19:03] <ChameleonSix4> anyway
[19:03] <e-vent> ifconfig INTERFACE up
[19:03] <ChameleonSix4> how do i check battery status
[19:03] <e-vent> dhclient INTERFACE
[19:03]  * OerHeks thinks another reason not to use mint
[19:03] <SharkMa-san> TJ-: and thank you
[19:03] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: so? most laptops have an Ethernet port. "sudo ip link XXXXX up && sudo dhclient XXXX &"
[19:04] <ChameleonSix4> hmm ok
[19:04] <ChameleonSix4> what about battery
[19:04] <ChameleonSix4> ?
[19:04] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: where XXXX is the interface name
[19:04] <ioria> ynix,  on xenial it'll be always 7
[19:04] <ynix> ioria, Is Xenial 16.04?
[19:04] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, agreed.  Honestly, mint is beautiful, built in screen recording, very clean, but some things are off.   If I can get the best of mint back into ubuntu with me, I'm happy.
[19:04] <cluelessperson> Maybe Ubuntu Mate.
[19:04] <ioria> ynix,  yep
[19:04] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: actually, its "sudo ip link set XXXX up" ...
[19:05] <ChameleonSix4> i enabled wireless
[19:05] <ChameleonSix4> what now
[19:05] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: read those guides
[19:05] <ChameleonSix4> the adapter is enabled
[19:06] <cluelessperson> hm, time to reinstall my laptop
[19:06] <ynix> ioria, But it can just be installed as a package easily.
[19:06] <ioria> ynix,   i head it... but not tried
[19:06] <ioria> *heard
[19:08] <fuze> Bashing-om: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aFeV5JrH/
[19:08] <Bashing-om> fuze: Look'n .
[19:11] <ynix77> Is there a way to get the global menu up top to stay visible (instead of disappear when the mouse isn't over it)? I'm looking in settings and unity tweak tool and I can't find an option anywhere.
[19:11] <Bashing-om> fuze: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[19:12] <fuze> Bashing-om: Prompt=normal
[19:12] <hook> more googling - how do I find out if I have the right soundcard drivers?
[19:12] <sturgbot> Probably a dumb question, but how can I tell exactly which graphics driver is loaded?
[19:13] <hook> looks like my question :)
[19:13] <sturgbot> hook: Yeah, I noticed right after I hit enter ;-) No sound?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> fuze: Strange indeed, That was my last thought on why release-upgrade is balking .
[19:14] <krabbe> I hate to ask this… but what does this one-liner do? “echo "resolvconf resolvconf/linkify-resolvconf boolean false" | debconf-set-selections”
[19:14] <hook> my mic shows it's picking up something, I just can't pipe it to the sound
[19:14] <hook> alsamixer and gnome-alsamixer didn't help much
[19:14] <sturgbot> what'd it show in alsamixer?
[19:15] <TJ-> krabbe: that's a debian package configuration option for the 'resolvconf' package
[19:15] <hook> I selected the soundcard, f6
[19:15] <hook> chose usb webcam 2.0
[19:16] <hook> "this sound device does not have any playback controls"
[19:16] <TJ-> hook: Are you able to record it? "piping" is usually called "loopback" and requires some custom configuration to do it
[19:16] <TJ-> hook: if a program like 'audacious' can record the input correctly then the microphone is working fine.
[19:16] <OerHeks> ynix77, install dconf-editor >  Dconf-Editor (com > canonical > unity > always-show-menus)  http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/unity-to-probably-get-option-to-always.html
[19:16] <hook> I'm a bit new to ubuntu so I don't know the official terminology, but I can see my mic level rising in the standard volume controls
[19:16] <hook> I just can't hear it - and probably for good reason to, to avoid feedback
[19:17] <OerHeks> ynix77, this tip does not work btw http://askubuntu.com/questions/541449/how-do-i-always-show-menu-items-in-unity
[19:17] <hook> unsure if it records - is there a command to do a quick recording?
[19:17] <ynix77> OerHeks, Cool, thanks!
[19:17] <hook> I'll google
[19:17] <sturgbot> hook: google arecord
[19:18] <hook> apt-get'd :)
[19:18] <sturgbot> hook: Oh.. try:    arecord test.wav
[19:18] <hook> oh, already had it
[19:18] <krabbe> TJ-: thanks. Those were some pointers.
[19:19] <sturgbot> hook: I think it's part of alsa-utils. I feel like I've seen it in a tutorial somewhere
[19:20] <TJ-> hook: I helped another user setup loopback+monitor (for Skype) recently. We worked from the answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257992/how-can-i-use-pulseaudio-virtual-audio-streams-to-play-music-over-skype#258369
[19:21] <sturgbot> With 16.04, does anything get *weird* with X? Say I wanted to use the mini.iso and install a command-line system. Could I still get a minimal X environment (and say, openbox) the same way?
[19:21] <k1l> sturgbot: it stays on x.org
[19:22] <hook> arecord and aplay worked great, I could hear myself
[19:22] <steffen-ubuntu> hallo
[19:22] <steffen-ubuntu> wo bin ich hier
[19:23] <nicomachus> !de | steffen-ubuntu
[19:23] <OerHeks> steffen-ubuntu, read the topic :-)
[19:23] <steffen-ubuntu> thank you
[19:26] <Bashing-om> fuze: Any hints in any of the log files from 'ls -al /var/log/dist-upgrade' ?
[19:28] <docmur> how I can kill all sendmail processes on my server?  When I do a ps- aux | grep sendmail i See : /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i  and I want to kill all of them, I tried pkill sendmail and pkill /usr/sbin/sendmail and it didn't work
[19:29] <mike_LR> docmur, have you tried "killall sendmail"?
[19:29] <OerHeks> sudo service sendmail stop
[19:29] <TJ-> docmur: what service do they belong to? "dpkg -S $(readlink -e /usr/sbin/sendmail)" might help identify the owning package
[19:29] <OerHeks> killing it, will restart the deamon i guess
[19:30] <TJ-> postfix has a replacement for sendmail so it can depend on where the symlink points to as to which service owns the process
[19:31] <docmur> sendmail-bin /usr/lib/sm.bin/sendmail
[19:32] <Bashing-om> fuze: I see a common cause as proprietary driver/Xorg stack . Also have a look : http://askubuntu.com/questions/541246/unable-to-upgrade-from-14-04-to-14-10-cannot-calculate-upgrades .
[19:34] <TJ-> docmur: so you can figure out the service controller for that with "dpkg -L sendmail-bin | grep init"
[19:37] <hook> HELL YES
[19:37] <fuze> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iNLZBxDL/
[19:37] <fuze> Bashing-om: ^
[19:38] <hook> TJ, wishing I hadn't gone with the first code snippet on that link
[19:38] <Bashing-om> fuze: Look'n at your https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iNLZBxDL/ .
[19:39] <fuze> Bashing-om: austin@Austin-Desktop:~$ grep ERROR /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[19:39] <fuze> 2016-01-24 14:30:40,706 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[19:40] <hook> so I'm going to give my first screencasting a go with recordmydesktop and gucview for the webcam
[19:40] <hook> anything to look out for?
[19:42] <TJ-> fuze: to get an idea of what is breaking, use "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes install <PACKAGENAME>"
[19:42] <fuze> TJ-: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[19:43] <TJ-> fuze: adjust your copy/paste then; it took a linebreak from the IRC client
[19:44] <Bashing-om> fuze: How about ' ls -al /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/apt.log ;  ls -al /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/main.log ' Should be the log of the last attempt .
[19:44] <fuze> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Koatd4az/
[19:45] <fuze> Bashing-om: ^
[19:45] <AlexPortable> I have these folders in my home directory, how can I find out what they are for? .pki .local .gnome2_private .gnome2 .gconf .config .cache
[19:46] <e-vent> open them with nano
[19:46] <e-vent> they are all hidden config files for various programs
[19:46] <Punkoivan> folder?
[19:46] <AlexPortable> is there a list which program creates which folder?
[19:46] <Punkoivan> Just press Ctrl + H and all ok +)
[19:46] <Bashing-om> fuze: It is TJ- Who taught me, when all else fails, read the instructiuons . The filles are there .. any thing relevant when cat'n the files ?
[19:46] <AlexPortable> I only want to backup a certain set of applications
[19:47] <e-vent> AlexPortable, not really, go by their names
[19:47] <e-vent> and by the obvious ones
[19:47] <AlexPortable> what is .cache for ?
[19:47] <fuze> Bashing-om: cat'n?
[19:47] <e-vent> caching presumably, could be one program or many
[19:47] <AlexPortable> if I want to restore a backup do I need it?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  to speed up your pc, so it gets files from your hdd, not from the internet
[19:48] <Bashing-om> fuze: ' cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/apt.log ' for instance .
[19:48] <e-vent> you will not need the cache
[19:48] <AlexPortable> What else don't I need?
[19:48] <AlexPortable> .pki ?
[19:49] <fuze> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/gacWmhYr
[19:50] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, any folder with a . you would not need to backup AFAIK
[19:50] <Dro> can I use any Ubuntu mirror without problems ? For example is it dangerous to use this one: http://bouyguestelecom.ubuntu.lafibre.info/ubuntu/ ?
[19:50] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: well then I loose my DE settings for some folder
[19:50] <AlexPortable> in previous backups I just restored my home folder with the . in front of it, now I want to cut down in size some like cache for example
[19:51] <xangua> AlexPortable: next time you install Ubuntu, I suggest you to make a separate /home partition
[19:51] <OerHeks> Dro, seems a legit mirror, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/bouygues-telecom
[19:51] <AlexPortable> xangua: why?
[19:51] <akik> dot files and directories hold your configuration data. please don't delete them if you are not sure
[19:51] <AlexPortable> well I'm trying to find out which aren't important
[19:51] <AlexPortable> .cache for example isn't important I just learned
[19:52] <Dro> OerHeks, thanks! :D
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  delete .cache and you'll see, nothing really changes
[19:52] <xangua> AlexPortable: so you don't have to backup/restore your desktop settings/files everytime for whatever reason you need to reinstall
[19:52] <AlexPortable> xangua: I have, I'm replacing harddisk
[19:53] <xangua> AlexPortable: oh, can't you just clone it then?
[19:53] <AlexPortable> I can, but I only want to get the files that I need
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  with a separate /home partition, your personal files and settings are safe, if you have to reinstall or fresh install ubuntu ... your desktop/wallpaper stays the same etc
[19:54] <AlexPortable> Oh I remember why I didn't do that, I can't make more than x partitions
[19:54] <AlexPortable> windows and recovery partition take some space too
[19:54] <Bashing-om> fuze: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/gacWmhYr .
[19:55] <hook> anyone know of good video editing software for 12.04?
[19:55] <OerHeks> openshot, still my nr 1
[19:55] <hook> I may build my own html/backbone app to delegate ffmpeg commands
[19:55] <Dro> my ubuntu is using 5690 M of RAM.. is that normal?
[19:55] <AlexPortable> Dro: depends on which programs you have open
[19:55] <TJ-> !linuxatemyram | Dro
[19:56] <OerHeks> 10 tabs firefox?
[19:56] <AlexPortable> Where does ubuntu stores the last chosen DE when logging in?
[19:56] <TJ-> !memory | Dro
[19:56] <Dro> AlexPortable, using firefox, chromium
[19:57] <TJ-> AlexPortable: lightdm stores the session, under /var/lib/lightdm/ I think, but don't recall the exact file
[19:57] <hook> OerHeks: checked it out, not bad
[19:57] <AlexPortable> .dmrc also has something like last session
[19:57] <AlexPortable> what's it for?
[19:57] <hook> OerHeks: youtube channel?
[19:58] <TJ-> AlexPortable: "/var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/$USER.dmrc"
[19:58] <OerHeks> hook, i haven't uploaded anything created with openshot, yet.
[19:58] <hook> I'm just starting, no idea what the best format to record in is
[19:59] <hook> I need the one I can process out to all the formats from my build server
[19:59] <hook> also there'll be rtmp and the other one, rts?
[20:00] <Remind> Hey guys, I'm stuck lol. Upgraded to 15. When I try to login I get a failed to load session when I try to login. When I CTRL+ALT+F1 I can login just fine but no GUI. When I run a check on apt get It says that the following packages have unmet dependencies: Ubuntu-desktop
[20:01] <xangua> Remind: updated to what release from what release? There's no Ubuntu 15
[20:01] <Bashing-om> fuze: Ouch !! " Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 65 " What does '  cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/main.log ' reveal ?
[20:01] <ioria> Remind, how did you upgrade ?
[20:01] <Remind> The command list dist upgrade command
[20:02] <fuze> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/58zCpcG4/
[20:02] <fuze> Bashing-om: ^
[20:02] <Remind> And when I try to install Ubuntu desktop, it says it has unmet dependencies too (Ubuntu-session, etc.).
[20:03] <ioria> Remind,  you upgraded from what to what ?
[20:03] <mcphail> hook: Linux video editing software is limited and buggy. There isn't a perfect option: everything has serious flaws. I find the blender video editor is best for my needs
[20:03] <Remind> From 14.04 to the latest
[20:04] <xangua> Remind: 15.10?
[20:04] <ioria> Remind,  you needed to upgrade to 15.04, first
[20:04] <hook> mcphail: what's the master/best format to aim for recording?
[20:04] <Bashing-om> fuze: Look'n at the latest https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/58zCpcG4/ .
[20:04] <hook> mkv? avi? og?
[20:04] <ioria> Remind,  cat /etc/issue   and uname -r
[20:05] <hook> x264 - no idea lol
[20:05] <AlexPortable> TJ-: No I mean i have that file in my home folder
[20:05] <OerHeks> Remind, did you have HWE enabled before upgrading?
[20:05] <Remind> 15.04 is the version
[20:05] <ioria> Remind,  uname -r
[20:06] <xangua> ioria: I've seen problems like this since December 30, the update manager prompts the upgrade to 15.04 or 15.10 in 14.04, I think this is a bug but haven't found something myself
[20:06] <Remind> 3.19.0-47-generic
[20:06] <ioria> xangua, i see
[20:06] <ioria> Remind,  do you have a /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log     ? or similar ?
[20:08] <asdf-> hello, I am finding various howtos that were written 1-2+ years ago for SSD Caching in Ubuntu. Can anyone recommend a tutorial on what is considered best practice today?
[20:08] <ioria> Remind,  and paste the output of sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:09] <mcphail> hook: don't confuse containers with codecs. mkv is a container, which can wrap video encoded with, say, the x264 codec along with audio encoded with mp3, flac etc
[20:09] <hook> ah I see, that's given me some context to understand this better - thanks
[20:09] <hook> I skipped that primer :)
[20:10] <hook> so x264 for the video and flac for the audio?
[20:11] <Remind> One second joining in another computer, on a phone right now
[20:11] <hook> this is off-channel-topic, sorry guys - I'll endeavour to hunt down
[20:11] <mcphail> hook: as an example, yes. You need to work out what your target requires, and pick an audio and video codec and container to suit
[20:12] <BiilD73> ok, got everything with my NFS share working until I have a reboot. After I reboot, my clients cannot dive into the shares deeper then share name. I have to term in and run exportfs -a. I'm sure its a mount issue but to new to know where to start looking at. the shares are on multiple ext usb hdds
[20:12] <Remind> I won't be able to copy and paste, Ubuntus my main OS it's not on a VM
[20:12] <mcphail> hook: also, have a look at https://obsproject.com/ for screencasting software, if that is your thing
[20:12] <CheeryLee> Hello everyone! Could you help me?
[20:12] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:13] <hook> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats
[20:13] <hook> MKV looks best according to this
[20:13] <OerHeks> asdf-, 2 guides https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization and https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd, i use  "noatime" in /etc/fstab only
[20:13] <Tommii> i thought x265 replaced x264?
[20:13] <BiilD73> CheeryLee just ask, someone will help if they can
[20:13] <Bashing-om> fuze: " 2016-01-24 12:03:34,445 DEBUG Foreign: >> a huge hige list " I just do not think we want to try and fight our way through all this . Would not a backup and a clean fresh install be in your best interest ?
[20:13] <CheeryLee> Anybody could help me with Ubuntu Touch porting?
[20:13] <asdf-> OerHeks, thank you
[20:13] <mcphail> hook: mkv is one of the best from a technical point of view, but some older players cannot handle it
[20:14] <Tommii> why use x264, instead of x265?
[20:14] <Remind> When I try that, I get a bunch of dependencies errors
[20:14] <ioria> Remind,  ok
[20:14] <showaz> http://i.imgur.com/bq1jnJH.png xorg r.i.p.
[20:14] <hook> I hope it's easy to transcode mkvs in ffmpeg then
[20:14] <mcphail> Tommii: x265 is still in early development, and there isn't hardware support yet
[20:14] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get update
[20:14] <Remind> Depends Ubuntu-desktop, unity-control-center, unity-settings-daemon
[20:14] <hook> I'm hoping to make gifs for editing videos online
[20:15] <pieter__> Hey guys I'm runing Lubuntu on a 2ghz, 2GB RAM, Nvidia card with 512 MB laptop.. When I play videos on youtube the video lags (the sound plays fine) I suppose that's not normal behaviour to be expected for this machine?
[20:15] <Tommii> mcphail: what hardware support is it missing? it works fine in Windows/linux/mac
[20:15] <hook> compilations of perception differencing tests, quick animation
[20:15] <hook> some screencasting too
[20:15] <OerHeks> be creative & succesfull, hook
[20:15] <Remind> That updates and at the end it has some unknown multi arch type 'no' for a handful of compiz packages
[20:15] <mcphail> Tommii: video acceleration. For example, on mobile devices
[20:16] <CheeryLee> So, I built Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung tablet, but... don't know how to flash system
[20:16] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:16] <k1l> CheeryLee: #ubuntu-touch for that specifics
[20:16] <CheeryLee> All methods in Internet are deprecated
[20:16] <xangua> ! Touch | CheeryLee
[20:16] <mcphail> Tommii: just now it relies on software/CPU
[20:16] <pieter__> In additional drivers (in software & updates) i do have a nvida driver installed;. Howcome youtube videos lag? the sound plae
[20:16] <showaz> wayland the best, no bugs.
[20:16] <Remind> When I run upgrade, it brings me back to the Ubuntu-desktop unmet dependecids
[20:17] <tlogic> hello everyone. Is there any way to force change the value of /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid ??
[20:17] <k1l> Remind: please put those erorrs into a pastebin so we can have a look. paste.ubuntu.com
[20:17] <Remind> How? It's my main OS not a VM
[20:18] <ioria> Remind,  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades    is set to lts or to normal ?
[20:18] <k1l> Remind: does that pc have internet connection?
[20:18] <showaz> 16.04 now working login screen ?
[20:18] <Remind> normal
[20:19] <Remind> And yeah! I'm just working with terminal, I had to control alt f1 at the login screen
[20:19] <ioria> Remind, we need the pastebinits ....
[20:19] <Remind_> I'm on a second computer now
[20:19] <xangua> ! 16.04 | showaz
[20:19] <Bashing-om> showaz: Ask that in #ubuntu+1 channel .
[20:19] <k1l> showaz: 16.04 is still in development.
[20:19] <Remind_> Is it possible for me to take the output and save it on a USB from terminal?
[20:20] <ioria> Remind, can you ssh ?
[20:20] <Tommii> how do i get a list of Obotto commands, i am PM'ing it now
[20:20] <Tommii> Ubottu
[20:20] <SchrodingersScat> !usingthebot
[20:20] <showaz> ! Parallels Desktop 11 16.04 | showaz
[20:21] <nicomachus> !bot | showaz
[20:21] <Punkoivan> which program you're using for IRC?
[20:22] <CheeryLee> Xchat
[20:22] <Remind_> Trying to think of aw ay I can get this to you in a paste bin
[20:22] <Remind_> I'm really stuck for ideas
[20:22] <SchrodingersScat> !factoids | Tommii, !factoids also brings up that msg
[20:22] <ioria> Remind, can you ssh ?
[20:22] <nicomachus> Remind_: can you install pastebinit? apt-get install pastebinit
[20:22] <showaz> sed /isis/irssi/
[20:22] <mcphail> Remind_: pipe the output through nc termbin.com 9999
[20:22] <ioria> Remind, openbox is working ?
[20:22] <OerHeks> termbin indeed, needs nothing to install
[20:23] <Remind_> When I try to install pastebinit, I'm brought back up with the ubuntu-desktop thing
[20:23] <mcphail> Remind_: i.e. "whatever your command is | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:24] <k1l> Remind_: "sudo apt update |nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:24] <ioria> Remind,  ^^^^
[20:24] <Remind_> ItWARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts
[20:25] <Remind_> Then I get a bunch of Multi-ARch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core, gnome, core, gnome core...etc'
[20:26] <Remind_> Wait, did it work?
[20:26] <Remind_> http://termbin.com/jcg2
[20:26] <ioria> Remind,   misses the end ...
[20:27] <Tommii> Remind_: what DE are you on?
[20:28] <Remind_> OMG this is so cool, haha
[20:28] <Remind_> okay, here's what I got from upgrade
[20:28] <Remind_> http://termbin.com/7ovq
[20:28] <mcphail> Remind_: "sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:28] <Tommii> SchrodingersScat: thanks for that
[20:28] <Remind_> Regardless of my system being completely smashed, this is so cool that I can send my logs like this. I never knew this lol
[20:28] <ioria> Remind,  apt-get -f install
[20:28] <k1l> Remind_: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:29] <derpititusus> Thanks again for being awesome! Enjoy your day/night!
[20:29] <Remind_> apt-get -f install: here's the output http://termbin.com/af4n
[20:29] <Tommii> Remind_: i thought you were doing a clean install, not an upgrade? or was that another guy named "Remind"?
[20:30] <Remind_> I did yesterday, but about an hour ago I tried to upgrade to 15
[20:30] <Remind_> I was using 14.04
[20:30] <Remind_> Someone suggested in the chat earlier that I upgrade because my screen would lock when I closed the lid
[20:30] <Remind_> Now, here I am lol
[20:30] <Tommii> Remind_: so if it is a clean install, why not start fresh? why go thru alll these upgrades?
[20:31] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:31] <Remind_> Because I started my assignment this morning, about 4 pages into my paper
[20:31] <Remind_> If I can fix it, I'd like to lol
[20:31] <Tommii> if you just installed yesterday, it'd be easier to install 15.10 fresh. you have not much to backup
[20:32] <Tommii> Remind_: are you on XFCE? xubuntu
[20:32] <showaz> xubuntu not r.i.p. ?
[20:32] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/r2an
[20:33] <Remind_> Tommii: I'm just using Ubuntu
[20:33] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get -f install  , again
[20:33] <k1l_> Remind_: what is the issue at all?
[20:33] <OerHeks> k1l_, the upgrade should not be offered in 14.04.3 to 15.04 ...
[20:34] <showaz> ioria: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:34] <k1l_> uh, i bet it was some -d involved
[20:34] <ioria> Remind,  yeah, try that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:34] <k1l_> showaz: xubuntu is not dead. its still a official flavour
[20:34] <Remind_> k1l_: I had Ubuntu 14.04. My computer would freeze after I opened the lid at the login screen. A user suggested I upgrade to 15, so I did. After it restarted I would get an error at the login saying it failed to load session. All I can do his CTRL+ALT+F1 and get a terminal. It seems ubuntu-desktop isn't installed and its dependcies
[20:34] <Remind_> Okay, one second!
[20:35] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/g2u3 it gave me a similar error
[20:35] <Tommii> k1l_: what is the " -d " command you are referring to?
[20:35] <ioria> Remind,  but you can get the login screen   ?
[20:35] <showaz> k1l_: reaper Mark Shuttleworth not rip actors xubuntu?
[20:36] <nicomachus> showaz: no.
[20:36] <OerHeks> k1l no, proof : http://askubuntu.com/questions/724635/error-upgrading-ubuntu-14-04-to-15-04-error-authenticating-some-pakages
[20:36] <Remind_> ioria: Yeah, it boots to the login screen but says failed to load session after I put in my password
[20:36] <k1l_> Tommii: most bad howtos and youtubevideos suggest to run the updaters with -d, which is meant to upgrade to the next development release
[20:36] <showaz> Remind_: short password?
[20:36] <Remind_> Which led me here to the terminal
[20:37] <Remind_> showaz: Yeah, not too long
[20:37] <ioria> Remind,  have you tried openbox ?
[20:37] <k1l_> showaz: i dont know what you are about at xubuntu
[20:37] <showaz> Remind_: short password deny security polity
[20:37] <Remind_> showaz: 8 characters, has numbers, but no upper/special characters
[20:38] <showaz> Remind_: >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/06/minimum-password-length-ubuntu/
[20:38] <ioria> Remind,  can you paste   apt-cache policy ubuntu-session
[20:38] <k1l_> Remind_: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session"
[20:38] <xangua> k1l_: ioria  for the record, these are image captures of the update manager suggesting to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/724635/error-upgrading-ubuntu-14-04-to-15-04-error-authenticating-some-pakages
[20:38] <showaz> Remind_: minlen=1 (pam)
[20:39] <k1l_> xangua: could still be triggered by a -d
[20:39] <D-Rayven> test
[20:39] <ioria> xangua,  that's interesting ...
[20:39] <showaz> recovery-mode boot or leave-cd
[20:39] <showaz> chroot mnt
[20:39] <xangua> k1l_: most users just claim it just appeared to them
[20:39] <k1l_> xangua: hmm ok
[20:39] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/r6be
[20:39] <hasdf> hello
[20:40] <user23456789> Hey guys, what do you suggest as security tools for Ubuntu?
[20:40] <Tommii> user23456789: privacytools.io
[20:40] <k1l_> Remind_: try to install it. we need to get to know why thats not installed
[20:40] <k1l_> Remind_: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session"
[20:40] <ioria> Remind,  it's correct for vivid
[20:40] <Punkoivan> what do you mean "security"?
[20:40] <Remind_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/yqk9
[20:40] <Tommii> Remind_: try Xubuntu  :)
[20:40] <user23456789> So it secure for normal usage, like social media, bank account
[20:40] <user23456789> yes
[20:40] <user23456789> security
[20:40] <ioria> Remind,  but not installed :þ
[20:40] <Punkoivan> yep
[20:40] <k1l_> Remind_: we need to find the end of the line: "sudo apt-get install unity-settings-daemon"
[20:41] <Remind_> k1l_: E: Unable to locate package unity-settings
[20:42] <AlexPortable> If I make changes to gnome-control panel where is that stored?
[20:42] <hasdf> I have installed Ubuntu 15.10 on a Samsung ultrabook 5. (With LVM on Luks). After a restart I'm in the grub console. Wanted to chroot in and fix it, but can't open bios and it doesn't recognize my usb stick (from which I installed ubuntu) in the boot menu.
[20:42] <hasdf> Any way to boot lvm on luks from the grub command line?
[20:42] <user23456789> Security tools, that avoid getting hacked in any manner
[20:42] <k1l_> Remind_: -demon    at the end of package name
[20:42] <user23456789> I just install the firewall
[20:42] <Bashing-om> user23456789: Desktop and non-Windows ? Then 'buntu is secure out of the box . No user intervention is required . Server open to the world or interchanging files with Windows' is a different matter .
[20:42] <user23456789> and nothign more
[20:42] <user23456789> what more do you suggest?
[20:43] <ioria> Remind,  again, please    sudo apt-get install unity-settings-daemon
[20:43] <k1l_> user23456789: the strategy is to not load code from any websites. ubuntu fixes known security issues in their softtware repo
[20:43] <user23456789> So you say that Ubuntu itself dont need any additional program for being secure?
[20:43] <Remind_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/ixug
[20:43] <OerHeks> !info clamav
[20:43] <showaz> security not work with a connect network cable :)
[20:44] <ioria> Remind,  maybe purge it all....
[20:44] <OerHeks> firewall and updates & sensible use of the internet
[20:44] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/15qt
[20:44] <user23456789> Perfect, how can I know that the update that I have etc are coming from real Ubuntu Servers?
[20:44] <Guest21301> good ?
[20:44] <showaz> Remind_: conflict packages
[20:44] <k1l_> Remind_: sudo apt-get install unity
[20:44] <showaz> yum/dnf easy conflict resolve
[20:45] <Remind_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/yqvk
[20:45] <k1l_> user23456789: the hashes of the packages are checked
[20:45] <OerHeks> user23456789, the repo keys are your safety
[20:45] <user23456789> are checked automatically?
[20:45] <Guest21301> i'm tryingout ubuntu and dubain any sudgestions
[20:45] <k1l_> somehow it still wants to install a 14.04 unity package
[20:46] <Bashing-om> user23456789: All are "signed" do: ' sudo apt-key finger ' to see all the signing keys .
[20:46] <k1l_> user23456789: yes
[20:46] <user23456789> I dont have to do anything?; the thing is that the other day a friend of mine told me "dude Linux OS is the most exploited and hacked OS in the market" and I said I he was obviously wrong
[20:46] <ioria> Remind,  it wants to install trusty packages versions ...
[20:46] <user23456789>  just wanted to confirm with people that really know about the matter
[20:47] <Remind_> Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[20:47] <Alphos> hiya people :) tiny question about cron jobs i've always wondered but never enough to properly check : when several cron jobs exist with the same time constraints in the crontab for a given user, are they run consecutively or concurrently ?
[20:47] <Remind_> And guys, thank you very much for trying to help me
[20:47] <k1l_> user23456789: most hacked linux machines are servers run by beginners having too easy passwords getting bruteforced.
[20:47] <ioria> Remind_    if no other solution purge the DE
[20:48] <Remind_> How would I do that?
[20:48] <k1l_> user23456789: but that is still not much against hacked windows
[20:48] <user23456789> Yes I though that something like that was the only like possibility where the things he told me really applied
[20:48] <Bashing-om> user23456789: I have run 'buntu for many years . Out of the box and have never experienced an issue . Our peeps are real quick to jump on and correct any security issues .
[20:48] <Remind_> And where would that leave me? Would i lose my files?
[20:48] <Alphos> (and now i do wonder enough to properly check, cumulative time could be longer than the time spacing)
[20:48] <user23456789> what do yo mean that "is still not much against hacked windows"?
[20:48] <Tommii> user23456789: was your friend this guy? LOL  https://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6033/geeksquadgusphotou11.jpg
[20:49] <ioria> Remind_    your console is working.... suggest to backup your files
[20:49] <user23456789> LOL jajajaja
[20:49] <user23456789> no no
[20:49] <Remind_> ioria: Would it save my documents/videos/music?
[20:49] <user23456789> but he is similar lol jajaja
[20:49] <ioria> Remind_    sure, have you tried openbox ?
[20:49] <TJ-> Remind_: check for trusty repos still enabled: "grep trusty /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[20:49] <k1l_> user23456789: the most hacked machines are windows since its the most marketshare.
[20:49] <Remind_> I haven't, only Ubuntu
[20:50] <ioria> Remind_    sure, sorry
[20:50] <OerHeks> user23456789, question your friends numbers
[20:50] <xangua> Remind_: I think this is some kind of bug, the update manager shouldn't have suggest you to skip releases in the first place...I've seen problems like this posted since December 30
[20:51] <Remind_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/6cdp
[20:51] <Remind_> xangua: Oh :(
[20:51] <Tommii> Remind_: just start over bro.  with 15.10 or whatever disto you like.  this install is only 1 day old, no need to salvage it  :P
[20:52] <OerHeks> Tommii, he needs his data, so just reinstall is now not an option
[20:52] <Bashing-om> !virus | user23456789
[20:52] <Remind_> Tommii: What can I do to prevent this though? It's got me worried with only having one computer and one OS. Kind of nervous using Ubuntu with this problem happening my second day into it
[20:52] <xangua> Remind_: but somehow this doesn't appear the attention it should have...
[20:52] <Tommii> ioria: what is the difference between openbox and LXDE+openbox?
[20:52] <TJ-> Remind_: that looks fine, what does "apt-cache policy unity" report?
[20:52] <ioria> Remind_    i thinks it comes with it
[20:52] <nebula_> Hey Can someone help me out with a problem I am having ?
[20:53] <ioria> Tommii,     i thinks it comes with it
[20:53] <Tommii> OerHeks: he can back up his data, obvi
[20:53] <user23456789> Perfect
[20:53] <Remind_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/8ly0
[20:53] <LonelyDanbo> why does the "Software Updater" always "Failed to download repository information"?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> nebula_: Ask and see .
[20:53] <user23456789> So guys do you know why Dota2 (Valve-Steam) is having fps lag now a days?
[20:53] <Alphos> welp, i simply tried with two sleep 5 ; date >> ~/date.tmp, and it appears to be concurrent :) yay \o/
[20:53] <Remind_> Again, just want to say it again since other people have pitched in to help. Thank you guys so much for helping me out
[20:53] <user23456789> using it on Ubuntu?
[20:54] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, show us some log, maybe you added a PPA without packages for your version
[20:54] <ioria> Remind_    always the trusty one
[20:54] <LonelyDanbo> OerHeks, I don't know how to do that.
[20:54] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # and past it on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:55] <LonelyDanbo> I broke my Wine game and now I'm trying to fix it. I hope I don't break it more. This is always such an ordeal.
[20:55] <nebula_> I have the MayFlash controller adapter for WiiU and PC when I try to plug in my gamecube controller it acts as a mouse and I can't set it to be used as a controller in the emulator visual boy advance how can I get it to start working as a controller instead of a mouse
[20:55] <LonelyDanbo> I broke it by updating. I don't even know how I managed to update with this error happening.
[20:55] <ioria> Remind_    i'm suggesting you , after backup, to purge ubuntu-desktop and autoremove
[20:56] <Remind_> ioria: How would I back up right now, in the terminal?
[20:56] <Tommii> ioria: what distro do you use?
[20:56] <nebula_> Ubuntu
[20:56] <ioria> Tommii,   lts 14.04.3
[20:56] <Tommii> ioria: DE?
[20:56] <LonelyDanbo> oh... I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10 is available... I wonder if upgrading will cause more problems. I bet it will. updating always causes problems.
[20:56] <ioria> Tommii,   unity and lxde
[20:57] <ioria> Remind_    insert a usb  and cp the files
[20:57] <TJ-> Remind_: So, the upgrade went from 14.04 > 15.04, and now unity (14.04) is still installed, but the package-manager only knows about the 15.04 version. Do you get any better result from "sudo apt-get install unity libunity-core-6.0-9"
[20:57] <Tommii> Remind_: oh you only have terminal now?  if you dont like terminal, its easy to boot from a LIVE CD, and backup files that way.... Then NUKE ur system and start over, brother :)
[20:57] <LonelyDanbo> ... do I upgrade or do I run that command?
[20:58] <TJ-> Remind_: try adding "--reinstall" before the "install" command there, too
[20:58] <ioria> Remind_   yeah, in live you have to mount your partitions
[20:58] <oula> I have this error " E: Failed to fetch http::///iq.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/usbmount_0.0.22_all. deb 404 not found "
[20:58] <Tommii> Remind_: Nuke it from outer-space  :P
[20:58] <Remind_> TJ-: I added --reinstall, http://termbin.com/0msv
[20:59] <ioria> omg
[20:59] <Remind_> Tommii: Tempted to, lol
[20:59] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: you haven't even told us how you "broke" wine, but indeed 14.04 support will end in one or two weeks
[20:59] <TJ-> Remind_: that is suggesting the archive lists are out of date. "sudo apt-get update" then retry the command
[21:00] <LonelyDanbo> I broke wine by updating through "Software Updater". It updated Wine, and then my game stopped being able to launch.
[21:00] <Tommii> xangua: what? Wine doesnt support 14.04? you sure?
[21:00] <xangua> Tommii: 15.04 I mean, phone keyboard
[21:01] <Oskar> hi!
[21:01] <Oskar> just downloades lubunty
[21:01] <Oskar> downloaded lubuntu
[21:01] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: did you add a PPA for wine?
[21:01] <oula> please anyone can help me .. i have problems in installing packages
[21:01] <TJ-> oula: "sudo apt-get update"
[21:01] <LonelyDanbo> I had a PPA for Wine before. but it always gives that error.
[21:01] <xangua> oula: what Ubuntu release are you using?
[21:01] <Tommii> Remind_: Welcome to Linux    Day #2.       (◔ ‿ ◔)o自*clink*自o(◔ ‿ ◔)♫♪
[21:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> I installed xubuntu 14.04lts last night, I got graphics and java working, but my wifi is acting up. It randomly drops the network I
[21:02] <Oskar> how do i update Firefox and install new themes on lubuntu??
[21:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> 'm connected to, and I have to disable and reenable wifi to be able to see it and reconnect
[21:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> Sometimes after it drops the connection, it hides all the wifi networks.
[21:03] <Oskar> ?????
[21:03] <xangua> Oskar: latest Firefox in Ubuntu is Firefox 43
[21:04] <nicomachus> Oskar: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` will update everything on your system.
[21:04] <Oskar> i have LUBUNTU
[21:04] <squinty> oula,  if you use your web browser to log on to http://iq.archive.ubuntu.com/  you will see there is nothing there.  might want to change your server
[21:05] <ioria> Oskar, the same
[21:05] <oula_> TJ- it does not work
[21:05] <LonelyDanbo> damnit. the update is removing kdenlive again. I wonder if this time it will remove the working folder and if I need to back it up.
[21:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Oskar: Ubuntu, as well as (k/x/l)ubuntu all share the same set of repos
[21:05] <Oskar> ah
[21:06] <Oskar> do you recommend updating firefox on lubuntu?
[21:06] <ioria> Oskar,  yes
[21:06] <JackTheShark> Hi :)
[21:06] <Remind_> TJ-: Same error after running update
[21:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> Keeping the current version of most programs is advisable
[21:06] <Oskar> thank you
[21:06] <Remind_> TJ-: Am I doomed? :S
[21:06] <oula_> please anyone can help me .. i have problems in installing packages
[21:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> rather than letting it get out of date
[21:06] <ioria> Remind_,   backup, please
[21:06] <Oskar>  and how do i do system update when new lubuntu version is released
[21:07] <xangua> oula_: what Ubuntu release are you using? What's the command output? Please user a paste site
[21:07] <JackTheShark> can you help me i wana to make an iso cope of the running os
[21:07] <user23456789> but he is similar lol jajaja
[21:07] <LonelyDanbo> I'm going to close all programs while it updates. :(
[21:07] <ioria> Remind_,   your usb will mount on /media/user/something   , just  copy (cp) your files in there
[21:07] <Tommii> Remind_:  Nuke, Please.
[21:08] <Remind_> Haha, fine you win
[21:08] <Remind_> SoI'm downloading 15.10, think I'll be safe?
[21:09] <oula_> xangua , i am installing usbmount , E : failed to fetche http:///iq.archieve.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe
[21:09] <Tommii> Remind_: try a bunch and decide, before you install
[21:09] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: again, you've barely give us any info about your problem, besides wine "broke"
[21:09] <TJ-> Remind_: no, but it might be involved to fix. I'd force-remove unity so the old version is gone. "sudo apt-get purge unity libunity-core-6.0-9" (which should allow other 14.04 bits to be removed with "sudo apt-get autoremove" and then - possibly - allow clean install with "sudo apt-get install unity"
[21:09] <Remind_> I'm sure things were much more difficult when you all started, but man this is stressful for a new user
[21:10] <JackTheShark> @hmm maybe you select the worng server
[21:10] <Tommii> Remind_: to make sure you know what you like, try different distros & DE's
[21:10] <squinty> oula_, <squinty> oula,  if you use your web browser to log on to http://iq.archive.ubuntu.com/  you will see there is nothing there.  might want to change your server
[21:10] <ioria> Remind_,    i know, i know :þ
[21:10] <xangua> ! Paste | oula_: again, what Ubuntu release are you using? Can you show us the output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:10] <TJ-> oula_: if the archive mirror you're using is reporting HTTP 404 error (file not found) for a package, after you've updated the archive lists, then something is broken on that mirror server. You'd need to change the mirror the PC is using.
[21:12] <JackTheShark> guys i wana to make a copy of running os with all apps can you guid me?
[21:14] <TJ-> oula_: you can change the default archive servers with "sudo sed -i 's/iq\.//' /etc/apt/sources.list" then redo the lists with "sudo apt-get update" then you should be OK again
[21:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> Any idea what's causing my wifi wonkiness- the connect randomly dropping, and me being unable to connect until I disable and renable wifi?
[21:15] <TJ-> JackTheShark: just the same set of packages, or packages + system configuration, or packages + system configuration + user's files ?
[21:15] <Wayward_Vagabond> It only seems to drop when the connection is realtivelty idle (just irc going over it), but that could be dumb luck
[21:16] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: depends on the wifi chipset, and driver. Check log files for clues. For hardware/driver issues check /var/log/kern.log. For connection/WPA issues check /var/log/syslog
[21:16] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: that could be due to a power management issue where the interface is put into power-save mode and doesn't come out. There are known issues and power-save can be disabled.
[21:16] <JackTheShark> packages & system configuration & user files
[21:17] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: what's the 'name' of the wifi interface?
[21:18] <Wayward_Vagabond> Hmm, I see something that looks relevant in kern.log, uploading to a pastebin
[21:18] <Remind_> TJ-: Okay, so I did a force remove, the purge didn't do anything, auto remove did some work, and it installed unity. I did another update/upgrade and it didn't give me the errors like before
[21:18] <oula_> xangua , what do you mean by release ? .. i am using ubuntu server 14.04 .. when using update && upgrade , i have the same error of not fetching the http:///iq.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:18] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: "sudo iwconfig <IF_NAME> power off" will disable power-management (<IFNAME> will likely be "wlan0")
[21:18] <Remind_> TJ-: So I tried startx and it brought me to my Desktop, no menu or anything yet, but hey that's a lot more than before
[21:18] <TJ-> Remind_: That's looking promising!
[21:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> http://pastebin.com/4eNqxfKf
[21:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> This is the tail end of kern.log
[21:19] <oula_> ubuntu , i am using ubuntu server 14.04 .. when using update && upgrade , i have the same error of not fetching the http:///iq.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:19] <TJ-> Remind_: you shouldn't use startx. Use "sudo systemctl start lightdm.service" (SystemD init) or "sudo service lightdm start" (Upstart)
[21:19] <xangua> oula_: did you try to change the mirror? Use the main mirror perhaps?
[21:20] <oula_> xangua , how do i do this ?
[21:20] <TJ-> oula_: you've changed the sources.list incorrectly; it should be http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:21] <Wayward_Vagabond> "Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported."
[21:21] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, so apparently not that! That's the first easy fix out the window :)
[21:22] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: when it is active, what does "iwconfig wlan0" report (any retries/Invalids) ?
[21:23] <xangua> oula_: open the software centre, go to the edit menu, sources...a new window opens and in the very first tab you can change the mirrors.
[21:23] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: if you do "modinfo -F parm rtl8192ce" (that's the kernel driver) you might see a couple of power-control settings (swlps and fwlps) - is that correct?
[21:23] <sor_> i can't seem to get the track list from any of the ipad songs rhytmbox only list 11 songs and amarok lists with no metadata this is what it looks like --- still can not get it to go id3 thing we talked about ---- http://ibin.co/2UbMHHE1gSjA
[21:24] <Remind_> TJ-: Just an update, I had to restart because nothing was happened. The login screen still shows up, I was able to login! My menu doesn't show up, my wallpaper loads. However, the update manager popped up letting me know that 15.10 is available so I'm letting it upgrade to it!
[21:24] <Wayward_Vagabond> iw config results http://pastebin.com/f1kFyum4
[21:24] <Remind_> TJ-: I can't thank you enough, I have a good feeling about this
[21:25] <TJ-> Remind_: don't break it again too soon :D
[21:26] <xangua> Remind_: upgrade again sounds like a bad idea
[21:26] <Wayward_Vagabond> Hmm, that last command had an interesting line. "ips:Set to 0 to not use link power save (default 1)
[21:26] <Wayward_Vagabond> "
[21:26] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: iwconfig output looks good. I notice the rtl8192ce module also has the "ips" parm, which is also related to link-state power management
[21:26] <Remind_> xangua: Well, I was able to back up my files. So now I'm just in it for the ride and to procrastinate finishing my paper
[21:26] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: did you see sqlps/fwlps ?
[21:27] <Remind_> This has been a stressful second day of linux, haha. I hope it's not like this for me all of the time as I have no other OS lol
[21:27] <oula_> TJ- , i dont know how to write the command to change the archive server .. can you full write it please
[21:27] <Wayward_Vagabond> fwlps had a similar line
[21:27] <xangua> 3:23 PM <xangua> oula_: open the software centre, go to the edit menu, sources...a new window opens and in the very first tab you can change the mirrors.
[21:28] <Wayward_Vagabond> fwlps:Set to 1 to use FW control power save (default 1)
[21:28] <TJ-> oula_: you can change the default archive servers with "sudo sed -i 's/iq\./archive./' /etc/apt/sources.list" then redo the lists with "sudo apt-get update"
[21:28] <luvenfu> hello, can someone help me some information about a specific wifi driver from Lenovo Ideapad 100?
[21:29] <Wayward_Vagabond> So if I'm understanding, if my connection activity is low enough for long enough, it disconnects me to try and save power?
[21:29] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, so 'fwlps' is allowing (by default) the BIOS firmware to set power-state but swlps (by default) doesn't allow software control (as in that "iwconfig wlan0 power off" command), and "ips" is on for default power-save. There's no indication in kern.log of power-saving actions (although there don't need to be) so it might be worth disabling Wireless Networking briefly, then unloading and
[21:30] <TJ-> reloading the module with some of those settings changed
[21:32] <S_J> anyone that know googles multiplayer system well? i want a system where you have a title holder and you need to earn your reputation to be able to play him. can this bi implemented on the side of the multiplayer api?
[21:32] <Wayward_Vagabond> Um, can you please explain how to do that? Unload/reload the module and change it's settings
[21:32] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: once Wireless network is disabled via "nmcli nm wifi off" then unload module with "sudo modprobe -r rtl8192ce" then "sudo modprobe rtl8192ce ips=0" and then "nmcli nm wifi on"
[21:32] <Wayward_Vagabond> Ah, thanks
[21:32] <riqj> hello everyone, my usb is shown as unknown. when I last turned off my computer it was connected (I didnt unmount it before turning off)..could this have damaged the file system?
[21:32] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: you can repeat that sequence to alter those other 'parm' options in the same way, or use multiple options at the same time by space-separating them on the command line
[21:34] <luvenfu> TJ, where i can get this driver? http://pastebin.com/TVNfAKgZ
[21:35] <TJ-> luvenfu: redo that using "lspci -nn" which gives the [Vendor:Device] IDs
[21:37] <Remind_> TJ-: Still updating, it's got a lot of files and I think my connection isn't the best right now.  As I learn things I hope to be in your shoes; in a position to help other new people.
[21:37] <luvenfu> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/GmtgPzdi
[21:39] <oula_> TJ- , thank you very much .. done .
[21:39] <JackTheShark> does ubuntu share user's data ? :)
[21:39] <TJ-> luvenfu: what does this report: "modprobe --resolve-alias pci:v000010ECd0000B723sv*sd*bc*sc*i* "
[21:40] <TJ-> JackTheShark: only when you put it somewhere public
[21:40] <luvenfu> TJ-: lspci -nn
[21:41] <luvenfu> TJ-: ah, you mean the pc?
[21:41] <luvenfu> TJ-: lenovo ideapad 100
[21:41] <TJ-> luvenfu: no, run the command
[21:41] <TJ-> luvenfu: what does this report: "modprobe --resolve-alias pci:v000010ECd0000B723sv*sd*bc*sc*i* "
[21:41] <tlogic> each time i kill one specific application it restarts at it's own. How can i prevent it from restarting?
[21:42] <luvenfu> TJ-: i don't know
[21:42] <TJ-> luvenfu: that command searches the kernel module aliases to identify which kernel module (driver) claims that device ID ([10EC:B723] which was taken from your "lspci -nn" output
[21:43] <TJ-> luvenfu: which driver were you wanting? For some reason I'm assuming you were asking about the WiFi driver
[21:43] <Wayward_Vagabond> Had to reboot to get the connection working again
[21:43] <luvenfu> TJ-: ah, exactly, sorry
[21:43] <Wayward_Vagabond> After I ran those commands, it refused to connection
[21:44] <TJ-> luvenfu: if that "modprobe --resolve-alias ..." doesn't return the name of the kernel module, then the kernel version on that PC is too old
[21:44] <Wayward_Vagabond> Now I suppose I wait to see if it drops out again?
[21:44] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: did the 2nd "modprobe ..." (load) command report any errors?
[21:45] <Wulf> Given a block device (/dev/nbd0), how can I create a single primary partition with swap type on it, occupying the whole device? Err.. without user interaction, from a script.
[21:45] <Wayward_Vagabond> neither had anything to report
[21:45] <oskar> Hi
[21:45] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: those options will only work when you load the module manually; they won't be applied at boot-time.
[21:45] <oskar> Trying to install lubuntu
[21:45] <oskar> It keeps coming on as a live session
[21:45] <oskar> Like the test mode
[21:45] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: good, so the commands worked and did load the module (*nix commands generally are silent if they succeed)
[21:46] <TJ-> oskar: did you leave the installation media connected to the PC?
[21:46] <Tommii> Remind_: So, remember, When you are an old-Timer  tomorrow, on Linux-Day#3.  you can help the newbies stuck on Day#1  :P
[21:46] <mcphail> oskar: did you remove the install disk/usb before rebooting?
[21:46] <oskar> No
[21:46] <oskar> We left it in
[21:46] <Remind_> Tommii: Haha
[21:46] <TJ-> oskar: so the PC will boot from it again
[21:46] <mcphail> oskar: well take it out and retry
[21:46] <Wayward_Vagabond> Any idea why it wouldn't connect at all after the modprobes?
[21:47] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: no; you'd need to check both kern.log and syslog for clues on that
[21:47] <oskar> So install it, then take it out before rebooting?
[21:47] <TJ-> oskar: the installer does prompt to remove the installation media before rebooting
[21:47] <mcphail> oskar: install, shut down, remove drive, reboot
[21:47] <luvenfu> TJ-: that's not make sense, it's a 14.04 lts
[21:48] <Wayward_Vagabond> Run the two modprobes again, andd se what appears in those two logfiles after? (then save the results and reboot?)
[21:48] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: don't reboot!
[21:49] <oskar> Thank you very much
[21:49] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: the commands are doing manually what usually happens at boot-time. You're (re)loading the kernel module with non-default options to test whether they help/or not
[21:49] <Wayward_Vagabond> I couldn't get it to reconnect after I did that, and I don't have another machine I can irc from :s
[21:50] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, so then you repeat the process but don't add any 'parms' when you load the module, so "sudo modprobe rtl8192ce" then "nmcli nm wifi on"
[21:50] <Jeeves_Moss> is there a power shell connector for linux?  I'd llike to issue PS commands to a windows box from my Ubuntu server
[21:50] <Wayward_Vagabond> I tried doing the whole thing again, but no arguments for the second modprobe
[21:51] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: that'll be in the same state as after a boot. You might need to poke it into an immediate radio scan with "sudo iwlist wlan scan"
[21:51] <Wayward_Vagabond> Still refused to connect...
[21:51] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: the syslog will likely be the most informative at that point
[21:51] <JackTheShark> Wayward_Vagabond reboot you system
[21:52] <Wayward_Vagabond> The network was displayed, but the connection dropped before it was finalized
[21:52] <TJ-> JackTheShark: This isn't Windows; reboots aren't required
[21:52] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, well syslog is the place to look. Network Manager logs there very verbosely
[21:52] <JackTheShark> haha :S
[21:53] <TJ-> With 16.04+ we can even live-patch the running kernel without needing a reboot
[21:54] <a12345> hello, is there a linux application where I can search all the pdf in the folder for a particular word(s)? I have used pdfgrep in the past but it can be rather clunky at times. Acroread used to have this capability but it is no longer supported.
[21:54] <TJ-> a12345: I think that depends on whether the PDF content is image-only, or text+image
[21:55] <Guy1524> hey guys, how do I install libreoffice 5 on ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[21:55] <oula_> please i want to save an ISO in a USB into my ubuntu server
[21:55] <Wayward_Vagabond> Try the modprobes, and see what happens in syslog when/if it won't reconnect?
[21:55] <a12345> TJ-, The vast majority of the PDF I search are text+image.
[21:57] <eb0t> hey
[21:57] <eb0t> whats the name of the other chat ubunut channel
[21:57] <eb0t> or something
[21:58] <eb0t> ubuntu unlimited maybe
[21:58] <eb0t> cant find it
[21:58] <mcphail> !info recoll | a12345
[21:58] <riqj> hello everyone, my usb is shown as unknown. when I last turned off my computer it was connected (I didnt unmount it before turning off)..could this have damaged the file system? or the hardware?
[21:58] <mcphail> a12345: that might help ^^
[21:58] <Naruni> Hi, can someone help me understand libvirt-bin with apparmor? When i try to create a VM via virt-manager i get an error about being unable to create a profile when attempting to use UEFI instead of default BIOS
[21:58] <k1l_> !ot | eb0t
[21:58] <Naruni> iv'e read the bug reports related to this issue and they are not addressing the particular issue im having
[21:58] <mcphail> a12345: looks as if it has to index your files first, though
[21:59] <eb0t> thanks k1l thats th one offtopic
[21:59] <eb0t> cheers
[21:59] <nname31> hello
[21:59] <TJ-> Naruni: which ubuntu release?
[21:59] <Naruni> TJ-, uh, current i guess... im new to ubuntu
[21:59] <JackTheShark> any information about ubuntu  16.04?
[21:59] <nname31> i want boot live dvd in laptop lenovo g50-30
[22:00] <xangua> ! 16.04 | JackTheShark
[22:00] <Naruni> uname -r Linux orange 4.2.0-25-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 12:31:50 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:00] <TJ-> Naruni: there are 3 or 4 current; do "cat /etc/issue"
[22:00] <nname31> i config uefi to lega..
[22:00] <Naruni> 15.10
[22:00] <TJ-> Naruni: what command, and what error are you getting?
[22:01] <TJ-> Naruni: you should be able to capture the entire underlying command from virt-manager's detail dialog when it fails
[22:01] <nname31> but output no bootable devince
[22:01] <_aCe_>  /server us.undernet.org
[22:01] <_aCe_> meh
[22:01] <Naruni> it is attempting to create a new VM in virt-manager using UEFI instead of stock BIOS, error is: Unable to complete install: 'internal error: cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-2f2fc867-f5d1-4302-a8cb-3a1a0ff435ce''
[22:01] <nname31> how can fix boot
[22:01] <Naruni> TJ-, standby let me find it
[22:01] <nname31> ??
[22:02] <sor_> i can't seem to get the track list from any of the ipad songs rhytmbox only list 11 songs and amarok lists with no metadata this is what it looks like ---- http://ibin.co/2UbMHHE1gSjA
[22:02] <Wimsecal> Hello
[22:02] <TJ-> Naruni: I recall having those bakc with 14.04 and there are som related apparmor bugs but not sure which one will be affecting you
[22:02] <Wimsecal> How can i delete a busy file with terminal?
[22:02] <Naruni> TJ-, i think what i need to do is allow apparmor to let libvirt use the UEFI files
[22:02] <Wimsecal> lsof lists many apps
[22:03] <Naruni> not sure wether that definition belongs in
[22:03] <nname31> need help?
[22:03] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load doc in side a flash disk please??
[22:03] <Naruni> http://pastebin.com/DnPURQr0
[22:03] <danillo> you mean automatic with fstab ?
[22:03] <Wimsecal> nname31: yes i need help
[22:04] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load doc in side a flash disk please??
[22:04] <TJ-> Naruni: I haven't had a problem when using the UEFI images
[22:05] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load doc in side a flash disk please??
[22:05] <mcphail> haidar: please stop repeating yourself so often. You have been asked to stop doing this already
[22:05] <Naruni> TJ-, https://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2015-August/msg00064.html <-- that is about as accurate as it gets to describe my issue
[22:05] <Naruni> but nobody posted a solution there :)
[22:06] <user23456789> No one has been having fps lag in Ubuntu when playing Dota2?
[22:07] <TJ-> Naruni: just checked and there are rules for the ovmf UEFI images: "sudo grep -rn ovmf /etc/apparmor.d/*"
[22:07] <xangua> user23456789: perhaps would be better if you tell what your issue is
[22:08] <user23456789> Im having serious lag when playing Dota2, "fps lag"; most of the time the game is lag. I have a good internet connection and a descent video card driver.
[22:08] <user23456789> I have investigated and know one has been able to give a solution that works
[22:08] <k1l_> native or wine?
[22:09] <TJ-> Naruni: I suspect your issue may be another manifestation of bug 1517539
[22:09] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load image in side a flash disk please??
[22:09] <Naruni> TJ-, i modified that apparmor file, should i restart apparmor or libvirt?
[22:12] <TJ-> Naruni: I think the process has to be restarted only; apparmor should be monitoring for changes
[22:13] <Bashing-om> haidar: ?? Maybe :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive.
[22:13] <Naruni> TJ-, thanks for the help, im gonna try a reboot just to see what happens
[22:15] <Naruni> TJ-, that bug you pointed out i'm not sure how to bring that into my install
[22:15] <Naruni> i could either modify the repo temporarily and update just libvirt right?
[22:15] <TJ-> Naruni: the fix is only in 16.04 for now
[22:17] <JackTheShark> what about ycmd -> https://github.com/Valloric/ycmd can't be installed on ubuntu
[22:17] <JackTheShark> compiled *
[22:21] <JackTheShark> ??
[22:22] <Naruni> TJ-, even using that version of libvirt does not solve the issue
[22:22] <Naruni> i've already edited the apparmor profile to allow the use of ovmf files from the edk2.git folder
[22:22] <k1l_> JackTheShark: the howto you linked said it can be build. so i dont know what you are asking
[22:24] <k1l_> JackTheShark: its in the ubuntu repos since 15.10
[22:27] <Naruni> TJ-, heads up i think i got it working, i had to move my ovmf files into /usr/share/ovmf
[22:27] <Naruni> thanks for the help
[22:28] <JackTheShark> but it did't install from the when i clone it & exec the script
[22:28] <Bray90820> What's a good desktop environment for touch screen laptops
[22:28] <Remind_> TJ-: Well, it finished updating. I restarted, and after I log in all I get is my wallpaper lol. But, I can move my mouse around, haha. Theres no menu or anything it seems
[22:29] <xangua> Bray90820: anything as long as the touch part works
[22:29] <JackTheShark> & the version in ubuntu repo did't respond with sublime3 k1l_
[22:29] <Bray90820> xangua: Do you know of one that is optimized for touch tho?
[22:29] <TJ-> Remind_: try a Guest session log-in, and/or a new user profile. It is often an issue with Unity + upgrades the panels go missing
[22:30] <xangua> Bray90820: I imagine KDE, GNOME or Unity
[22:30] <Bray90820> Alright
[22:31] <Remind_> TJ-: Same thing with Guest, only a wallpaper :P
[22:31] <Remind_> TJ-: Runs smooth though! Haha
[22:31] <arimura> Hi... people... someone managed to upgrade from 15:04 to 15:10 0 ?
[22:32] <bekks> arimura: Whats your issue when doing so?
[22:33] <Guy1524> Hey guys, so I am in the middle of transition my mom's mac from osx to ubuntu (specifically elementary OS freya) and she has a massive amount of .pages files.  Some of them (the simpler ones) libreoffice is able to open, but most of them say the file is corrupt.  I am running libreoffice <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:34] <xangua> Guy1524: wrong channel
[22:34] <kostkon> !elementary
[22:34] <Bray90820> Can anyone recommend an onscreen keyboard for a touch based laptop?
[22:34] <TJ-> Remind_: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to ensure all components are installed
[22:34] <Guy1524> nobody is ever there
[22:35] <xangua> Bray90820: Ubuntu comes with an on-screen keyboard
[22:35] <k1l_> arimura: it worked
[22:35] <Bray90820> xangua: That one isn't very touch friendly
[22:35] <k1l_> Guy1524: well, if support is important dont install an os thats support you dont like
[22:35] <user23456789> no body?
[22:35] <arimura> bekks: the autoupdate send message of erro on read packages
[22:35] <Guy1524> and I am pretty sure libreoffice works the same on ubuntu as it does on elementary
[22:36] <bekks> arimura: autoupdate will not work anymore.
[22:36] <bekks> !eolupgrade | arimura
[22:36] <k1l_> Guy1524: this is ubuntu support only. please see their website if they offer other support resources
[22:36] <eakinc> Florence is an onsceen keyboard that works.
[22:36] <k1l_> arimura: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"?
[22:36] <arimura> k1l_: soo... not worked
[22:38] <PHroGman> how can I change the login screen wallpaper in Ubuntu 14.04 to something else? Tried Ubuntu Tweak but didnt work
[22:39] <k1l_> PHroGman: its the same as the user you choose on login screen
[22:39] <JCT500THz> Why is it that sometimes when I log into Xubuntu 14.04, the volume hotkey doesn't work?
[22:40] <PHroGman> ?
[22:40] <JackTheShark> !xubuntu
[22:40] <k1l_> PHroGman: its the same wallpaper as the user got, that is selected on the login screen
[22:41] <showaz> JCT500THz: mark destroy xubuntu community
[22:42] <PHroGman> My wallpaper on my desktop is one I chose from my pictures folder. That works fine what I was looking to change was the login screen with the dots
[22:43] <k1l_> PHroGman: that is not login screen. that is plymouth
[22:43] <klf> How can I remove the menu and title bars from my extended screens in Wily?
[22:43] <k1l_> klf: you cant
[22:44] <PHroGman> can i change plumouth?
[22:44] <klf> My currenty monitor consists of 3 monitors: 20" (portrait) + 30" (landscape) + 20" (flipped portrait)
[22:44] <k1l_> PHroGman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth  this
[22:44] <k1l_> PHroGman: you need a theme for that
[22:44] <matin> hallo
[22:44] <klf> s/monitor/& setup/
[22:45] <matin> Sorry, ich suche ein chatgroupp mit java genies?:)
[22:46] <k1l_> PHroGman: " apt search plymouth-theme"
[22:47] <matin> kann mir bitte jemand sagen wo ich ein java room finde??
[22:47] <OerHeks> matin, try ##java
[22:47] <k1l_> !alis | matin
[22:47] <k1l_> PHroGman: or see this answer http://askubuntu.com/a/337699/31260
[22:49] <PHroGman> ok Tks
[22:49] <Guest23934> Hey all, I'm looking for some help with a freeze-->crash during the install of 14.04.03 and 15.10
[22:49] <Guest23934> Is this the place to ask?
[22:50] <showaz> Guest23934: 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10
[22:50] <Guest23934> Should I ask for troubleshooting help here, or is there a different chat I should join?
[22:51] <klf> Looks like I am going to have to find an article/tutorial on how to remove Unity completely if I can't figure out a  way to remove  the menu and title bars from my extended screens.
[22:51] <matin> es gibt kein ##java
[22:52] <k1l_> Guest23934: just ask a specific question
[22:52] <xangua> klf: you just have to uninstall the global menu package
[22:52] <xangua> Don't know what package is tho
[22:52] <k1l_> matin: note the double ## "/join ##java"
[22:53] <Guest23934> Ok, during the install process for both 14.04.03 and 15.10 my laptop would completely freeze for ~45 seconds then shut down and restart
[22:53] <vivace> lala
[22:53] <Guest23934> It happened at random times, and once I was finally able to finish the install process the same crash would happen during normal use as well
[22:53] <matin> danke jetzt habe ich
[22:53] <Guest23934> I have some kern.log logs and syslog lines for one of the crashes
[22:53] <OerHeks> klf: as k1l_ answered, not possible as it is hard coded, if you want regular gnome3 ..
[22:54] <OerHeks> !gnome3
[22:54] <mharvey> klf:unity tweak tool allows for some changes to panel and launcher
[22:54] <mharvey> klf is it the panel at the top of all screens you dont like?
[22:54] <Guest23934> can anyone recommend me a place where I can look for help with this?
[22:55] <k1l_> Guest23934: put the logs of those crashes into a pastebin and link them here
[22:55] <OerHeks> Guest23934, random crashes, perform a memtest86 run from the liveiso
[22:55] <Guest23934> syslog
[22:55] <Guest23934> http://pastebin.com/zvmxakPH
[22:55] <Guest23934> for one crash
[22:56] <Guest23934> kern.log:
[22:56] <Guest23934> http://pastebin.com/v4yD7h1y
[22:56] <Guest23934> for a couple dozen crashes
[22:56] <reda> ciao
[22:56] <reda> hello!!!
[22:56] <theorst> hi
[22:57] <klf> mharvey I only wish for them to show on my main monitor.  There is a "Scale for menu and title bars" option under "System settings"-> ScreenDisplay"
[22:57] <Guest23934> http://askubuntu.com/questions/724079/ubuntu-15-10-freeze
[22:57] <Guest23934> link to my askubuntu post
[22:57] <klf> mharvey, if there is a tweak which allows me to scale it down to "0" (zero) then it should achieve it.
[22:58] <Guest23934> I've not been able to find anyone else with the crash problem during the install, and all other reports of similar crashes have been able to pinpoint a cause
[22:58] <penne12> Hey - Im trying to ssh into my server, but I timeout when I do
[22:58] <penne12> I tried `iptables -F`
[22:58] <Guest23934> I have found no pattern to the crashes, and they happen before I can even login, or after 45 min of using the OS
[22:58] <pkircher> probably ssh server isnt started
[22:58] <penne12> it's started
[22:59] <Wulf> penne12: are you logged in via console?
[22:59] <pkircher> what does the journal say ?
[22:59] <penne12> via digitalocean's access thing
[22:59] <pkircher> wulf you can be logged in .. in the console and via ssh at the same time
[22:59] <showaz> Guest23934: optimus nvidia :D
[22:59] <penne12> pkircher no idea, how can I check?
[22:59] <pkircher> 15.10 ?
[23:00] <Guest23934> OerHeks my windows 10 install on the same machine has no problems at all
[23:00] <pkircher> journalctl -u sshd i guess
[23:00] <Guest23934> So friends have told me it couldn't be a memory problem
[23:00] <Wulf> pkircher: "ssh server not started" would not result in timeout.
[23:00] <Wulf> penne12: it's a networking issue. Can you ping your server?
[23:00] <penne12> yes
[23:00] <penne12> but...
[23:00] <Wulf> penne12: what does "iptables -L -n -v -x" print?
[23:00] <Guest23934> showaz what do you mean?
[23:01] <penne12> it cant ping me
[23:01] <penne12> When I ping my ip address, it shows "PING XX.XXX.XX.XX (xx.xx.xx.xx) 56(84) bytes of data."
[23:01] <Wulf> penne12: can you access the internet from the server? e.g. apt-get install something
[23:01] <penne12> yeah
[23:01] <Remind_> Okay so right off the bat Ubuntu 15's giving issues just trying to run the live version. Nouveau spams a ton of errors, finally it says Not all CPUs entered broadcast exception handler, shutting down cpus with NMI, kernel offset: disabled, drama_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console, then it reboots.
[23:01] <Wulf> penne12: install and run tcpdump.
[23:02] <Wulf> penne12: see what happens to your ssh packets
[23:02] <penne12> ok
[23:02] <showaz> Guest23934: tell that to nvidia, secure boot (UEFI) dkms fail verefy
[23:03] <showaz> Guest23934: nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[23:03] <penne12> Ok
[23:03] <Guest23934> showaz: make a bug report to nvidia with that line?
[23:03] <penne12> Im running it
[23:04] <bqllpd> question. the xfce power manager has a huge bug in 14.04 in which it ignores the settings. does 15.04 have this problem and has the problem been solved for 16.04 release i n april?
[23:04] <drale2k> when i execute a command via an SSH connection which takes some time to run, i see it working while i am in that ssh session. Can i "jump" back into that progress view after i reconnect later again via SSH?
[23:05] <Wulf> drale2k: screen
[23:05] <penne12> showaz, im not seeing anything
[23:05] <drale2k> Wulf thanks
[23:06] <penne12> well, I see the entire tcp dump
[23:06] <Guest23934> would the nvidia graphics card be causing crashes during install?
[23:06] <Wulf> penne12: that means?
[23:07] <penne12> I dont see my ip or anything - I see some .ssh packets, though
[23:07] <Wulf> penne12: filter it.  tcpdump -n -i eth0 port 22
[23:07] <Wulf> penne12: assuming the interface is called eth0
[23:07] <Wulf> penne12: then try to connect to the server
[23:08] <Wulf> penne12: if you don't know how to read it, paste the tcpdump output
[23:08] <showaz> Guest23934: wifi too problem loading (non-free firmware)
[23:08] <Guest23934> showaz: yeah, a problem with the wifi card too it looks like
[23:09] <penne12> I dont think thats the interface
[23:09] <showaz> Guest23934: non-free ubuntu repository.
[23:09] <Guest23934> showaz: what do you mean? I need diferent firmware for the wifi card?
[23:09] <penne12> actually, showaz, I think it just started showing some stuff, but not from my ip
[23:10] <penne12> then again, it is on a digitalocean hypervisor
[23:10] <penne12> but its not showing up when I ssh
[23:10] <showaz> penne12: digitalocean!=hypervisor DO=kvm-qemu.
[23:10] <Guest23934> k1l_: did you give it a look?
[23:10] <penne12> oh
[23:11] <penne12> Just for fun, I pinged my ip address (from the server) - it isn't showing anything
[23:12] <JCT500THz> How do I get SMPlayer to play SPCs?
[23:13] <JCT500THz> bazhang was the last one to help me with a problem like this, when I orignally had a problem compiling an app called playspc-gtk.
[23:13] <showaz> penne12: digitalocean not support new kernel, only stack modded image-kernel.
[23:13] <penne12> ?
[23:13] <JCT500THz> He then introduced me to SMPlayer which had the same support, but I can't figure anything out.
[23:13] <bekks> showaz: Thats totally expected, when running virtual private servers.
[23:14] <MiniFridge> Hello, I am trying to learn how to use Ubuntu Server and I had a question:  shouldn't I change root's password? I noticed that when I ran Ubuntu desktop, root came with a default password and I could reset my password through it. Doesn't that mean anyone who accesses my server can reset my password and compromise it?
[23:14] <bekks> !root | MiniFridge
[23:15] <MiniFridge> bekks, but how come I could use the default root password last time to reset my user password?
[23:15] <bekks> MiniFridge: There is no default root password.
[23:15] <maliD> The matrix? Deep cut, ubottu!
[23:15] <bekks> MiniFridge: There is no root password, by default.
[23:15] <MiniFridge> strange. Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
[23:16] <penne12> hmmm  - I recently att uverse recently redid our internet connection - and now we have a new ip
[23:16] <penne12> might be why I cant ping the old one :P
[23:17] <MiniFridge> Is it necessary to block access to recovery mode?
[23:17] <bekks> MiniFridge: No?
[23:17] <MiniFridge> I must have been thinking about that
[23:17] <MiniFridge> But, you can reset your password in recovery mode
[23:17] <bekks> MiniFridge: Yes.
[23:18] <MiniFridge> so, couldn't anyone who has access to the system change my password and compromise it?
[23:18] <bekks> MiniFridge: But you need access to the console (which your hoster has, always)
[23:18] <OerHeks> MiniFridge, if you want to be sure, use encrypted home/full disc
[23:18] <MiniFridge> my hoster?
[23:18] <MiniFridge> what's that?
[23:18] <penne12> but I cant ping my new ip, showaz
[23:18] <OerHeks> live iso can do the same as recovery
[23:18] <bekks> MiniFridge: Digitalocean.
[23:18] <MiniFridge> oh, hahahaha. I read it as "hah-ster"
[23:19] <MiniFridge> my bad
[23:19] <Ouch> Right
[23:19] <pkircher> question is what are you trying to “protect” ..
[23:19] <MiniFridge> bekks, so no one can get in via SSH that way?
[23:20] <bekks> MiniFridge: No.
[23:20] <pkircher> noone is wrong .. > keyauth / 2 factor helps with security
[23:20] <MiniFridge> Alright. So, I don't really have to worry about it?
[23:20] <pkircher> but .. noone isnt true
[23:20] <Ouch> carry on
[23:20] <bekks> pkircher: Recovery mode does not start ssh by default.
[23:20] <showaz> pkircher: 2 factor not safe, its optional auth
[23:21] <MiniFridge> I doubt my host is going to try to hack my website.
[23:21] <pkircher> 2 factor is just an additional part .. > protects somewhat against bruteforce
[23:21] <bekks> MiniFridge: They dont need to hack it, they have full access.
[23:21] <pkircher> security come in layers .. and if you got pysical access .. the only thing that somewhat helps is full disk encr.
[23:21] <showaz> pkircher: http://www.sshguard.net/
[23:22] <pkircher> fail2ban does a ok job as well
[23:22] <showaz> fail2ban not C
[23:22] <MiniFridge> alright. so, unless I reconfigure OpenSSH to allow access to recovery mode, there is not really a way for anyone to get into it besides physical access?
[23:22] <bekks> MiniFridge: You would have to reconfigure recovery mode, not ssh. :)
[23:22] <matin> ##java
[23:22] <pkircher> minifridge .. rootkits / viruses
[23:22] <pkircher> and so on
[23:22] <MiniFridge> pkircher, of course.
[23:22] <pkircher> .. there are plenty vectors
[23:22] <matin> #java
[23:23] <pkircher> noone can actualy say “its safe"
[23:23] <pkircher> but you gotta layer your security like an onion
[23:23] <matin> join ##java
[23:23] <MiniFridge> right, Fail2Ban, passwordless login, etc
[23:23] <javascripter> this is a place for people who have barely any konwledge of any linex to ask for help? So, my windows computer blew up, I heard I could use ubuntu to copy files from it (because I was an idiot and didn't back them up), and so I started using this tutorial (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab) to try and fix it. It wouldn't umount, so after some google I threw a -l in there to get that command to work. Now I
[23:23] <javascripter> am having problems with "sudo mount -a" in that it gives the error "mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or home/ubuntu/Desktop/windows busy".
[23:23] <matin> alis
[23:23] <matin> join alis
[23:23] <pkircher> if you got a fixed ip .. you can narrow it down to that as well
[23:23] <matin> join #alis
[23:24] <pkircher> close all ports and open just what you need
[23:24] <matin> i lost java chat room
[23:24] <bekks> !alis > matin
[23:24] <MiniFridge> matin, use /join #channel
[23:24] <k1l_> matin: come on. its not that hard. click on the ##java chatroomname and choose join
[23:24] <showaz> matin: oracle deprecated company
[23:25] <matin> sorry i was quit and i just came again
[23:25] <matin> i lost it all
[23:25] <k1l_> matin: take a pen and a paper and write "/join ##java" down if you cant remember it
[23:26] <matin> join ##java
[23:26] <Guest23934> showaz, any other tips? How should I go about fixing the crash?
[23:26] <matin> it doesnt work
[23:26] <bekks> matin: Works fine, you forgot the /
[23:26] <matin> okay wait
[23:26] <k1l_> matin: you are no using the correct command. see the exact command i named you
[23:27] <showaz> Guest23934: you are using an incompatible driver binary, why not use a non-free driver from ubuntu repo?
[23:27] <Guest23934> showaz: I'm not sure what that means.  But you are saying I should be switching drivers?
[23:28] <matin> k1l_, i swear i write the same
[23:28] <matin> like this (/join ##java) nothing gonna happen
[23:28] <pkircher> just one #
[23:28] <bekks> matin: omit the ()
[23:28] <MiniFridge> alright. Thank you for the help!
[23:28] <k1l_> matin: use your mouse, click on ##java and choose right click and choose join channel
[23:28] <Guest23934> showaz: I should use a different driver from the ubuntu repo?
[23:28] <Tommii> hey guys, how are these 2 commands different?     foo|pastebin      foo 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:29] <matin> * Cannot join #java (Channel is invite only).
[23:29] <k1l_> matin: doulbe ##
[23:29] <matin> he said one #
[23:29] <matin> when i write double nothing happen
[23:29] <OerHeks> no, i said ##java.
[23:30] <k1l_> matin: look in the sidebar if you are already in that channel
[23:30] <OerHeks> and invite only, means you need to register your nickame with #freenode
[23:30] <showaz> Tommii: "2>&1"  piple stderr outbuffer #1 to nc
[23:30] <matin> i know there is no java channel
[23:31] <bekks> matin: Which is not true.
[23:31] <penne12> showaz, do you have any suggestions?
[23:31] <showaz> Tommii: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[23:32] <matin> * ##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[23:32] <merpnderp> I haven't remoted into a linux box and needed a GUI in forever. Is VNC still the best way to do that?
[23:32] <squinty> matin,  if you are using hexchat or xchat, look in the drop down menu for Server -> Join a Channel  or Server -> List Channels
[23:32] <k1l_> !register | matin
[23:32] <k1l_> matin: for more issues with freenode better ask in #freenode
[23:33] <matin> okay
[23:34] <matin> join ##java
[23:34] <bekks> matin: you missed the / again.
[23:34] <Guest23934> showaz: Which driver do I need to replace?
[23:34] <k1l_> matin: i think we played that game now long enough. please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. try the irc commands in the server window
[23:34] <matin> join alis
[23:36] <merpnderp> ah-hah, nomachine. Had forgotten all about it.
[23:41] <Guest23934> showaz: any other advice?