[14:33] <RFleming> Good morning Canada!
[14:35]  * genii mumbles and looks for the coffeepot
[17:25] <yolanda_> hi


[00:06] <kevin_> hiya ChinnoDog
[13:04] <ChinnoDog> The channel topic is has dry rot.
[13:15] <marcoceppi> Just a little


[02:52] <Juerd_> How does one get the compose key to work?
[02:52] <Juerd_> I have XkbOptions set to compose:ralt, and xmodmap -pke shows keycode 113 = Multi_key
[02:52] <Juerd_> But unfortunately it doesn't work yet.
[02:58] <matt_> ok..just installed xfce, now i don't understand completely, it reminds me of gnome. first off, what is a "media player" for xfce, i used rythombox in gnome, someone explain.
[03:03] <dsmith_> hi I am trying to install 7.10 on a Dell 2400
[03:03] <dsmith_> but its locking up
[03:03] <dsmith_> i have 256mb RAM that should be enough
[03:04] <dsmith_> after I get past the auto partitioning part it locks up at 15%
[03:04] <matt_> dsmith_:
[03:04] <matt_> dsmith_: i used to have an installer lock up on me like that too, try partitioning the drive manually. and also try a new install disk
[03:04] <dsmith_> matt_: ?
[03:04] <dsmith_> oh ok
[03:05] <matt_> dsmith_: you get the partitioning part? what i mean...partition it with something else..not the installer disk, format the whole thing as one partition, then it may work, just try installing like you already have, after partitioning with something.
[03:06] <dsmith_> hmmmm I dont have a spare CD for that
[03:06] <matt_> does xubuntu have a live cd? can you boot into that?
[03:06] <dsmith_> I have used gaprted before in the past
[03:06] <dsmith_> yes 7.04 loads fine
[03:07] <matt_> dsmith_: ok, just use that
[03:07] <dsmith_> however it locks up after about 15%
[03:07] <dsmith_> ok
[03:07] <matt_> boot use gparted and format the whole thing.
[03:07] <dsmith_> I nned to look up my partition structure in my book
[03:07] <matt_> dsmith_: make it one partition, then try installing
[03:07] <matt_> dsmith_: shouldn't gparted show you?
[03:07] <dsmith_> i tried that, but manual needs to have you break it out
[03:08] <matt_> dsmith_: oh, ok
[03:08] <dsmith_> i dont have gparted cd handy
[03:08] <matt_> dsmith_: hmm...well..you can boot into the livecd xubuntu?
[03:08] <dsmith_> yes
[03:08] <dsmith_> doing it now, kinda slow
[03:09] <matt_> try this: booting into the live cd, and formatting it one of a few ways...
[03:09] <matt_> installing dparted, if it works in the live
[03:09] <matt_> or, perhaps this will work:
[03:09] <matt_> sudo mkfs ext3 /dev/whatever
[03:09] <matt_> you know the drive dev?
[03:10] <dsmith_> sda1
[03:10] <dsmith_> I think
[03:10] <matt_> ok, i thinks sudo mkfs ext3 sda may work
[03:10] <matt_> sda1 is a partition, sda is the drive
[03:10] <matt_> i think
[03:14] <matt_> dsmith_: take a while to boot? cause of the low ram isn't it?
[03:14] <dsmith_> I was thinking tat
[03:14] <dsmith_> I am going to install gparted
[03:14] <matt_> dsmith_: well, i think you'll like it. i have 1gb of ram, and i just installed xfce 20 minutes ago, it is pretty amazing
[03:15] <dsmith_> ok its installed already
[03:15] <dsmith_> this is my 3rd xubuntu install
[03:15] <matt_> dsmith_: give it a shot at partitioning
[03:15] <dsmith_> 1st time giving me this much trouble
[03:15] <dsmith_> I am
[03:17] <dsmith_> 1gb is what I am going to install on this machine
[03:17] <dsmith_> ~$50
[03:18] <matt_> well...i'd say stick with xfce, it seems nice. 50 for 1gb isn't bad
[03:18] <dsmith_> I am use to gnome and kde
[03:19] <dsmith_> on low end machines I tell ppl to use xubuntu
[03:19] <matt_> dsmith_: i've tried em all, but i sorta like xfce
[03:19] <matt_> it seems like a lighter gnome
[03:19] <dsmith_> i know
[03:20] <matt_> dsmith_: so you know much about xfce?
[03:22] <dsmith_> enough to be dangerours
[03:22] <dsmith_> *dangerous
[03:23] <dsmith_> omg, deja-vu
[03:23] <dsmith_> lol
[03:23] <matt_> dsmith_: well..i'm trying to figure this out: amarok uses kde, correct? rythombox uses gnome. so what exactly does xfce "use"? i mean..you can run amarok in gnome, and rythombox in kde, but it loads all the libraries, and in xfce, i'm trying not to have to load lots of other stuff, got me?
[03:24] <dsmith_> ahhh
[03:24] <dsmith_> xfce is sooo limited
[03:25] <matt_> dsmith_: what do you mean?
[03:26] <dsmith_> well on certain things
[03:26] <dsmith_> too me it seems limited
[03:26] <dsmith_> gnome is like for work
[03:26] <dsmith_> kde is for home
[03:27] <matt_> ok
[03:28] <dsmith_> xfce is kinda like a inbetween for low-end I supose
[03:28] <dsmith_> ok I parted the drive to full ext3
[03:28] <matt_> dsmith_: go for it, i think it'll work
[03:28] <dsmith_> install now
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> xfmedia?
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> alsaplayer
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> both great and work with xfce
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> no extra libs
[04:17] <neozen> matt_: I'm a fan of mpd or xmms2
[04:39] <mib_srlDAT4q> hello
[05:38] <evil_tech> ping
[06:35] <soldats> rhythmbox works fine in xfce as well
[07:47] <jw232> hello, can someone help me?
[07:48] <soldats> only if you ask a question i can answer
[07:49] <jw232> I posted my problem here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656904 if you can help I would appreciate it
[07:57] <soldats> i have no clue id look at your /var/logs? and see if you can dig up more info
[08:55] <ronni1> having a bit of trouble getting drivers installed for AR5006EG wireless card its an atheros type on pci express
[08:56] <ronni1> anyone using similar hardware?
[09:04] <ronni1> guess I need to compile the latest madwifi driver...
[09:07] <ronni1> lsmod |grep "ath_pci" has 3 listings though..
[09:08] <ronni1> no clue why it isn't claiming the hardware according to lshw but my ethernet is eth6 and now its eth7
[09:13] <ronni1> perhaps I need to use the madwifi tools?
[09:36] <custombrush> i have a msi usb stick
[09:52] <march> cu
[11:25] <MegaVolt> hi
[11:27] <MegaVolt> i have a question about DRI ... I'm using a radeon 9k mobility, radeon kernel module works and driver "radeon" in xorg.conf also works ... module DRI is loaded and DRI option 0666 is set
[11:27] <MegaVolt> still, glxinfo says no direct rendering
[11:28] <MegaVolt> any ideas?
[11:28] <Linuxica> hi
[11:30] <Linuxica> I can't see my cdrom device after upgrading to 7.10, neither usb cards and so on.
[11:30] <Linuxica> anybody can help me?
[11:32] <Linuxica> my X system gets frozen now and then with 2.6.22-14 kernel I have to boot with my old kernel
[11:33] <Linuxica> are there problems with xubuntu 7.10 version?
[11:35] <MegaVolt> those things work fine for me
[11:35] <MegaVolt> did you try to mount the cd drive manually?
[11:35] <Linuxica> yes, it works
[11:36] <Linuxica> but there's no icon at the desk
[11:38] <nanbudh> guys i hear that Netgear WGR614 is good for wifi. will it configure ok on xubuntu? i understand it does so on ubuntu.i have P III machine, i donot know how to check which motherboard it has
[11:40] <Linuxica> thank you MegaVolt I keep on lookin for a solution :)
[11:40] <Linuxica> bye
[11:42] <MegaVolt> nanbudh: which chipset does it use?
[11:42] <nanbudh> i am not sure. is there a command i can run and check?
[11:43] <MegaVolt> try
[11:43] <MegaVolt> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=2fba9c713ff212353842ddb8619e2590
[11:43] <Skittles> Linuxica, Open the xfce control panel, open the 3rd button in the top row, open behaviour (?) and there in the bottom you should be able to enable the icons
[11:43] <MegaVolt> aircrack-ng has a nice overview on compartible chipsets
[11:44] <Skittles> can't give you the excact names, i'Ve got only the german locales ;)
[11:45] <MegaVolt> fine with me ;) german, too
[11:45] <MegaVolt> but the aircrack site should really answer it all
[11:46] <nanbudh> MegaVolt: is the chipset issue related with the wireless card? well i have yet to buy a card. so if thats an issue i should take care to buy a netgear compatible card?
[11:47] <MegaVolt> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers
[11:47] <MegaVolt> there are lists of great compartible cards in all forms
[11:47] <MegaVolt> pci / usb / etc
[11:49] <nanbudh> thanks
[11:50] <MegaVolt> the site itself is about WEP cracking ... you can just ignore that part
[11:50] <MegaVolt> but the wireless compartibility stuff there is useful ;)
[11:51] <MegaVolt> does anybody know stuff about DRI?
[11:51] <MegaVolt> i have a question about DRI ... I'm using a radeon 9k mobility, radeon kernel module works and driver "radeon" in xorg.conf also works ... module DRI is loaded and DRI option 0666 is set
[11:51] <MegaVolt> radeon 9000 mobility
[11:51] <MegaVolt> but no DRI :(
[12:42] <feklee> When I try to install build-essential, then I'm asked for the xubuntu (Gutsy) CD-ROM.
[12:42] <feklee> Can this be done without the CD-ROM?
[12:42] <feklee> (I don't have a CD-ROM drive in the machine at the moment)
[12:46] <MegaVolt> in the packet manager menu there should be the search resources somewhere
[12:46] <MegaVolt> just delete the CD in that list
[12:47] <feklee> MegaVolt: I'm working on the console. I'll have a look in sources.list or what that's called ...
[12:49] <feklee> Seems to be working now.
[12:49] <MegaVolt> should be there, yes
[12:49] <MegaVolt> not 100%, i used synaptic to deactivate it ;)
[14:18] <Quarterlife> Uhh.. Is there a way to get DVI working?
[14:32] <Quarterlife> I mean it's quite difficult to install without display.
[14:33] <PeckaH> it should work by default
[14:34] <Skitt> wasn't there somebody who said a chicken would be able to install linux if there are enough grains on the enter-key
[15:39] <PupUserd3ab56> greetings, I'm having issues getting xubuntu to use my keyboard
[15:40] <PupUserd3ab56> does anyone have time/patience to look into it?
[15:40] <gabkdlly> please state your problem as explicitly as you can, sometimes it takes some time for someone with the right knowledge to come around
[15:41] <PupUserd3ab56> sure :)
[15:42] <PupUserd3ab56> ok so I have a rather old comp I'm running Xubuntu on to get my hands dirty and learn about linux distros
[15:42] <PupUserd3ab56> K6-2 system with an AT keyboard (old DIN interface)
[15:43] <PupUserd3ab56> I had xubuntu 7.04 first, it worked fine, but the upgrade to 7.10 borked and some stuff stopped working (e.g. USB hotplug)
[15:43] <PupUserd3ab56> but other standar peripherals were doing ok
[15:44] <PupUserd3ab56> standard*
[15:44] <PupUserd3ab56> I went for a clean installation from an alternate 7.10 cd today
[15:44] <PupUserd3ab56> and since then the keyboard stops working once Xubuntu is done loading
[15:45] <PupUserd3ab56> both at the login screen and at prompt in recovery lode
[15:45] <PupUserd3ab56> mode*
[15:45] <PupUserd3ab56> even Num Lock doesn't zork anymore
[15:45] <PupUserd3ab56> work*
[15:46] <PupUserd3ab56> right now I'm using PuppyLinux on the same comp, and as you see, the keyboard works just fine
[15:47] <gabkdlly> does your keyboard not work, even on the very first screen where you have the option to choose your keyboard layout?
[15:47] <PupUserd3ab56> oh I mean, the installation went fine
[15:49] <gabkdlly> sounds like your keyboard might be configured wrong in the Xorg configuration
[15:50] <PupUserd3ab56> thought about that too, so I tried to paste a backup copy of a working xorg.conf but at no avail
[15:50] <gabkdlly> during the installation, you were probably asked a question about your keyboard layout, yes?
[15:50] <PupUserd3ab56> yep
[15:50] <PupUserd3ab56> oh wait
[15:50] <PupUserd3ab56> when I have to type different keys?
[15:51] <gabkdlly> I have never installed gutsy using the alternate :(
[15:52] <gabkdlly> on the default xubuntu CD, when you are asked to select your keyboard layout, there is a field where you can test the setting
[15:53] <PupUserd3ab56> I don't remember having to do anything like that on the alternate cd... isn't it only for the Live one?
[15:54] <gabkdlly> yeah, I meant the live one, that is the only install CD I have experience with
[15:56] <gabkdlly> I am not an expert, but you might try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd" or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[15:56] <PupUserd3ab56> hmm from where?
[15:57] <gabkdlly> on the command line
[15:57] <gabkdlly> also called Terminal
[15:57] <PupUserd3ab56> with alt-F2 at the login screen?
[15:58] <gabkdlly> no, under Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[15:59] <PupUserd3ab56> you mean, booting from a liceCD then?
[15:59] <PupUserd3ab56> live*
[15:59] <gabkdlly> or you can hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get a Terminal, and then hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to your X session
[16:00] <gabkdlly> I am also using an old keyboard with a DIN to PS/2 converter
[16:00] <gabkdlly> I am using a German keyboard
[16:02] <gabkdlly> if bandwidth isn't an issue, I would suggest giving the live CD a try
[16:02] <PupUserd3ab56> 128 MB ram
[16:02] <gabkdlly> no, I meant if it is no trouble for you to download and burn another CD
[16:03] <PupUserd3ab56> ah, I have a LiveCD too
[16:03] <PupUserd3ab56> I mean, I have both alternate and live
[16:04] <gabkdlly> oh, right, with that much ram I guess there is no guarantee that it will boot, and I guess the alternate might be the only option
[16:06] <PupUserd3ab56> I've tried the liveCD once but only after installing from an alternate, it did work since I already had a swap file, it wasn't all that fast though
[16:06] <gabkdlly> ah, ok, but the keyboard worked?
[16:08] <PupUserd3ab56> yep, but it was a while ago, I haven't tried after the leyboard stopped working
[16:08] <PupUserd3ab56> keyboard*
[16:09] <PupUserd3ab56> I DID have a similar problem a few months ago, if I booted the computer with the network cable plugged in
[16:09] <PupUserd3ab56> I had to first start the computer, log in Xubuntu and then plug the cable
[16:10] <PupUserd3ab56> but right now it doesn't make any difference
[16:11] <gabkdlly> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50725/
[16:11] <gabkdlly> here you have what the section of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file looks like, you might compare it to what you have
[16:13] <gabkdlly> I guess you would want to have "at" instead of "de"
[16:13] <PupUserd3ab56> 	Option		"XkbVariant"	"oss"
[16:13] <PupUserd3ab56> 	Option		"XkbOptions"	"lv3:ralt_switch"
[16:13] <PupUserd3ab56> nah "de" is the layout :)
[16:13] <PupUserd3ab56> so "fr" for me
[16:13] <gabkdlly> oh, ok
[16:14] <PupUserd3ab56> mine is similar except for the "de" layout and the 2 rows I've pasted
[16:15] <gabkdlly> I guess if your keyboard is not being recognized at all, you might try a different XkbModel parameter
[16:15] <gabkdlly> oh, ok
[16:16] <PupUserd3ab56> that's what is realy weird, I had the same settings in the xorg.conf that worked as the ones that I have now with the keyboard not working
[16:17] <gabkdlly> I think I have given you all the advice I can, you might wait to see if someone more knowledgeable comes around, or you might post your problem on the ubuntu forums. You might also take a look at the xorg.conf file generated when the live cd boots
[16:17] <PupUserd3ab56> ok thanks
[17:11] <af_> there is a guide to build xubuntu from scratch (compiling sources)?
[17:31] <slow-motion> hi
[17:31] <CONNECTED> hola
[17:46] <march> cu
[22:44]  * vidd_ seems to have messed up the pubkey for my remote system....
[22:45] <zoredache> ?
[22:45] <vidd_> anyone know the command to get it back?
[22:46] <zoredache> the public key for what?  SSH?
[22:46] <vidd_> apt
[22:47] <zoredache> well if you have the gpg files I think you can do something with add-apt-key.  You may also be able to simply reinstall ubuntu-keyring, but I am not certain
[22:48] <vidd_> i need to know how to get the gpg files
[22:48] <vidd_> is there a way to wget them?
[22:48] <zoredache> usually they are at the root of the archive
[22:50] <vidd_> release.gpg?
[22:51] <zoredache> that isn't it.  It seems Ubuntu doesn't have it where I thought it was.  I almost almost sure I saw it at one time, but maybe on a different mirror then I am on now
[22:52] <zoredache> ah, I found it...
[22:53] <zoredache> a copy of the official keyring seems to be in /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[22:53] <zoredache> so apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg may fix you
[22:55] <vidd_> that file seems to be no good....
[22:56] <vidd_> i still get W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[22:56] <vidd_> its starting to look like i might need to format and re-install when i get back to work =/
[22:58] <zoredache> Oh, I am certain their is a way to fix it... I just don't think that I am the one that knows the answer... You could try in #ubuntu, the issue isn't really related to the windows-manager
[22:58] <vidd_> kk ty
[22:59] <scizzo-> I do wonder if anyone that has viewed my nvidia problem post has tried the nvclock thingy I have posted
[23:34] <march> Goodnight!
[23:35] <vidd_> zoredache, they finally got me an answer
[23:36] <zoredache> ah, good, was it something simple?
[23:36] <vidd_> kinda....
[23:36] <vidd_> but its hard to read in there
[23:36]  * zoredache nods
[23:38] <vidd_> me thinks i should still take the server off-line on monday, format it and install clean
[23:39] <vidd_> but is going to be a pita cuzz the cdrom is broken, so i need to piggyback another on to it
[23:40] <zoredache> if the hardware supports it, you could always install of a bootable-usb key
[23:40] <vidd_> i would just replace the drive....but its wedged in there
[23:42] <vidd_> when i built it i set up a seperate /home and /var partition so it wont be all that bad
[23:43] <vidd_> that means (hopefully) all the work i do this weekend wont be for naught
[23:44] <slow-motion> n8
[23:56] <ron_o> do you guys get many complaints about the installer partition manager?
[23:57] <ron_o> no biggie, but the fricking thing doesn't check for changes and keeps making up its own mind what size my partitions should be..
[23:57] <ron_o> seemingly changing partitions on the fly.
[23:59] <ron_o> just using gparted anyways.
[23:59] <ron_o> thought I'd pass the complaint along.
[23:59] <ron_o> :/