[03:47] <Ampelbein> mogus: np. for future reference, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat has a list of all the ubuntu related channels.
[03:47] <scott9876> Jack_Sparrow: did what you asked and it made it another ctrl not super key (window key)
[03:48] <mogus> Ampelbein: kthx
[03:48] <mogus> :)
[03:49] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: I asked you a question twice, if you're looking for help, it's considered general politeness to answer questions people ask you in order to be able to help you
[03:49] <scott9876> jbmigel: you still here
[03:50] <AshtonKem> Nope, single user works, until I start x.
[03:50] <SydneyGuy> Sorry
[03:50] <SydneyGuy> I was trying to get you accurate answer
[03:50] <SydneyGuy> ok
[03:50] <deepz> #firefox
[03:50] <SydneyGuy> I can with the command  sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media/Linux_ext4
[03:51] <SydneyGuy> but
[03:51] <SydneyGuy> it is root .. so I did these 2 commands
[03:51] <scott9876> Jack_Sparrow: or jbmigel can you help me out
[03:51] <SydneyGuy> sudo chown -R alnassafi:alnassafi /media/Linux_ext4 and
[03:51] <SydneyGuy> sudo chmod -R  777 /media/Linux_ext4
[03:52] <Guest46706> #techshow
[03:52] <matt098> Hello
[03:52] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: ok
[03:52] <Roasted> Question - If I fire up VirtualBox on Ubuntu, can I boot Vista when Vista/Ubuntu are arleady set to dual boot? Or do I have to specifically install Vista "AS" a VM to use?
[03:52] <scott9876> still trying to get my cap-lock key to become a super key
[03:52] <SydneyGuy> I can access it in terminal but in gnome it is still root .. and I get this msg ...DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending
[03:53] <blizzkid_> Roasted: you can use an existing install inside vb
[03:53] <scott9876> can someone help me make cap-lock become super key
[03:53] <Entraide-net> Hi I'm on hardy 8.04.2 x86 and my sound don't work after I have done this tutorial : http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/06/getting-modem-to-work-in-hardy.html
[03:53] <Roasted> blizzkid_ niiiiice! Thanks dood. Do you have a VirtualBox tutorial you'd recommend? I haven't messed with a VMbefore...
[03:53] <blizzkid_> scott9876: have you tried google?
[03:53] <scott9876> yes
[03:53] <scott9876> I've edit .Xmodmap
[03:53] <scott9876> and it doesn't take
[03:53] <Entraide-net> that website is specialized for my laptop ...
[03:53] <blizzkid_> Roasted: a quick google should help (I don't know the link by heart)
[03:54] <SydneyGuy> also from gnome if i try to mount it ot umount it ....If I try to mount it it says as before cannot get .whatever
[03:54] <AshtonKem> So, no ideas?
[03:54] <SydneyGuy> if i try to umount it it says it is root
[03:54] <Entraide-net> Roasted check out linux journal miro channel or on youtube for a decent tutorial for a tweaked vmware
[03:54] <matt098> Hi guys, I'm trying to setup a media PC using Ubuntu 8.10 and was wondering of anyone had any suggestions for a PCI tv tuner card??
[03:55] <blizzkid_> scott9876: tried the second approach in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684811 ?
[03:55] <blizzkid_> !hardware | matt098
[03:55] <Entraide-net> matt098 check thoses with drivers integrated in the linux kernel
[03:55] <usser> matt098, one of earlier circa 2003 pinnacle pctv cards worked for me
[03:55] <scott9876> blizzkid_: will try, thanks
[03:55] <ccb0x45> hey... my ubuntu box froze, and when I tried to ssh into it I got an error saying it couldnt access the .profile because of an IO error, then when i restarted ubuntu tries to start but then it says all my hard drives: reset failed device not ready and takes me to that recovery shell...
[03:55] <ccb0x45> is my hardware screwed or is there anything I can try to do to boot it again
[03:56] <blizzkid_> ccb0x45: sounds like a harddisk failure
[03:56] <matt098> Thanks
[03:56] <Sarthor> Hi, Where to find the manaul for apply the patches here http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/ ,
[03:56] <ccb0x45> well that sucks, its not a very old hard drive
[03:56] <Deevz> Where can I access my trash?
[03:56] <ccb0x45> is there anything I can try
[03:56] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_
[03:56] <Entraide-net> Hi I'm on hardy 8.04.2 x86 and my sound don't work after I have done this tutorial : http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/06/getting-modem-to-work-in-hardy.html if someone as an idea tell me ...
[03:56] <goose> Deevz, click the trash can?
[03:56] <blizzkid_> yes SydneyGuy ?
[03:56] <candlejack> oh hi
[03:56] <SydneyGuy> so?
[03:56] <Deevz> goose: where is it?
[03:56] <blizzkid_> so what SydneyGuy?
[03:57] <SydneyGuy> u asked me .. I am waiting for an answer or hint
[03:57] <goose> Deevz, bottom right corner in my screen
[03:57] <koshari> Deevz it would be on your panel unles you removed it
[03:57] <churl> i just started having weird issues with pulseaudio (taking up lots of the cpu & not working) in jaunty.  anyone else creating buzz about a similar bug?
[03:57] <Entraide-net> where I can get help for sound/modem/hardware problems on linux ???
[03:57] <Deevz> I mean, I have one on my panel, but i want an icon on my desktop
[03:57] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: you were able to mount it from command line, so I assumed your problem was solved?
[03:57] <AshtonKem> Wonder if it's my wireless card, loading the module always froze Ubuntu.
[03:57] <ccb0x45> is there any thing I can do to try to scan the drive and recover from the errors?
[03:57] <goose> ccb0x45, fsck
[03:57] <SydneyGuy> can not use it in gnome .. still root
[03:57] <Ampelbein> Entraide-net: no need to repeat yourself. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems for a start.
[03:57] <scott9876> blizzkid_: don't have a superkey on my keyboard
[03:57] <blizzkid_> Deevz: why would you want an icon on your desktop if you have one in the panel?
[03:58] <koshari> Deevz then copy it to the desktop
[03:58] <ccb0x45> can I run that from the recovery shell?
[03:58] <SydneyGuy> blizzkid_ : I will reboot .. maybe .. it will change
[03:59] <koshari> blizzkid because windows has one?
[03:59] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : can not use it in gnome .. still root
[03:59] <jats> Ashton: I'm not sure that wireless modules are loaded by the livecd. I haven't used an Ubuntu livecd since 8.04, though so I'm not certain.
[03:59] <wolter> what should i use to design a newspaper?
[03:59] <blizzkid_> koshari: so?
[03:59] <blizzkid_> scott9876: keycode 133 is what you need
[03:59] <Madpilot> wolter, Scribus is a very good desktop publishing app
[03:59] <ccb0x45> does busybox have anything like fcsk?
[04:00] <ccb0x45> because it doesnt have that
[04:00] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: what do you mean with "still root"?
[04:00] <GillaGal> I just install a new DVD player, but it won't allow me to play movies. Saying " this DVD is intended for play on non-midified region 1 players", yet it is region 1 and a 1 DVD.   Helpful people there.
[04:00] <blizzkid_> koshari: exactly :)
[04:00] <wolter> Madpilot, thanks! It looks very promising
[04:00] <koshari> GillaGal vlc?
[04:00] <blizzkid_> koshari: next question is how do I install ntfs in ubuntu coz windows has it :p
[04:01] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : If I mount it in terminal and do everything .. it is fine in terminal .. but It is root in gnome
[04:01] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: are you mounting it as root in the terminal?
[04:01] <Deevz> blizzkid_: my eee pc's screen isnt very wide, I need to limit the quantity off stuff on my panel
[04:01] <pablo_> gconf-editor ....
[04:01] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : I can not make folders .. copy and move or anything
[04:02] <GillaGal> koshari yeah I have vlc
[04:02] <Roasted> Anybody good with Virtualbox?
[04:02] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : sudo mount
[04:02] <blizzkid_> Deevz: I have an EEE too... (a 900) change your text size to 8
[04:02] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: so you mounted it as root...
[04:02] <AshtonKem> In the meantime, if I need to replace my wireless card, any decent and cheap USB wireless adaptors anyone knows of? I need to be able to use WPA Personal.
[04:02] <koshari> Roasted what do you wantto know?
[04:02] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: try to mount it without sudo in the terminal
[04:02] <koshari> GillaGal and that gives you the error?
[04:02] <pablo_> Roasted : what do you want??
[04:02] <blizzkid_> !hardware | AshtonKem
[04:03] <Roasted> koshari - I have Vista/Ubuntu as dual boot. So I'm trying to fire up Vista virtually. I've never done this before. At the virtual hard disk screen where I create a new virtual machine, I'm just not sure which one I'm to select... Boot Hard Disk Primary Master?
[04:03] <surfinonacid> hello people, I have a ubuntu setup and I'm trying to get a wireless lan set up for a house network... I've looked at various tutorials, but I can't find any of the programs they're suggesting... any ideas?
[04:03] <blizzkid_> Roasted: #virtualbox
[04:03] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : mount: only root can do that
[04:03] <GillaGal> koshari   XBMC give that error, I checked with their dev's and they say it's the DVD.  Elisa doesn't play.
[04:03] <koshari> AshtonKem if you are using usb maybe an Access Point would be better?
[04:03] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : can not mount it without sudo
[04:03] <matt098> hay Blizzkid try logging in as root and changing a few premissions
[04:04] <blizzkid_> matt098?
[04:04] <Entraide-net> Hi I'm on hardy 8.04.2 x86 and my sound don't work after I have done this tutorial : http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/06/getting-modem-to-work-in-hardy.html if someone as an idea tell me ...
[04:04] <jats> wolter: You may want to download a few of the font packages in the repository. I think searching 'font' in Synaptic will get you all the font packages.
[04:04] <matt098> i dont no how to pm u
[04:04] <matt098> blizz kid
[04:04] <Deevz> blizzkid_, how do I change my panel font?
[04:04] <Entraide-net> nothing about my problem work
[04:04] <blizzkid_> matt098: what are you trying to tell me?
[04:04] <RHorse> ccb0x45 fsck /dev/sd? or hd?
[04:04] <wolter> jats, well, I have some nice fonts to use already, thanks anyway!
[04:04] <matt098> u said u cant copy or move any of your folders/files right
[04:05] <blizzkid_> Deevz: system --> preferences --> appearance --> fonts
[04:05] <blizzkid_> no matt098
[04:05] <matt098> oo sorry
[04:05] <Roasted> the virtualbox chat is dead... doesn't anybody here know??
[04:05] <koshari> GillaGal while i have xbmc i have not used it to play a dvd, imho dvds are obsolete
[04:05] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : Is there a user option in the mount command
[04:05] <blizzkid_> Roasted: this is #ubuntu not #virtualbox
[04:05] <koshari> Roasted know what, ask your question
[04:05] <Roasted> blizzkid_ I coulda told ya that, pal ;)
[04:05] <pablo_> Roasted : what do you wanna know?
[04:05] <inasmu> Roasted: I don't think you can do that, I think you need to convert the windows parittions to VirtualBox disk images first
[04:06] <koshari> Roasted prim master will be fine
[04:06] <Roasted> koshari, pablo_ - I have Vista/Ubuntu dual booting already. I'm just trying to fire up Virtualbox to get Vista booted. I just don't know which hard drive setting I am to choose.
[04:06] <blizzkid_> inasmu: wrong
[04:06] <Roasted> koshari - It says no media present, though :(
[04:06] <koshari> Roasted its just a virtual disk image
[04:06] <blizzkid_> inasmu: you can use a physical disk in vb
[04:06] <blizzkid_> SydneyGuy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/cannot-mount-as-normal-user-425537/
[04:06] <Entraide-net> Hi I'm on hardy 8.04.2 x86 and my sound don't work after I have done this tutorial : http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/06/getting-modem-to-work-in-hardy.html if someone as an idea tell me ...
[04:07] <SydneyGuy> Blizzkid_ : Thanx
[04:07] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: are you going to keep repeating the same question again and again? If anyone knows the answer, they'll tell you
[04:07] <surfinonacid> anybody have any ideas?
[04:07] <pablo_> Roasted : when you create a new disk in VirtualBox it's for install a new SO, so select primary master....
[04:07] <blizzkid_> surfinonacid: what exactly is the issue?
[04:07] <RHorse> SydneyGuy try umask option
[04:08] <Roasted> pablo_ I'm trying to use an existing Vista partition that's already set up. Does that matter?
[04:08] <koshari> Roasted you cant do that,
[04:08] <blizzkid_> Roasted: use "existing disk" instead of "new disk"
[04:08] <Entraide-net> Roasted if you're on linux please check linux journal screencasts on youtube or miro , you will have the best virtual machine this way
[04:08] <blizzkid_> koshari: you can
[04:08] <pablo_> Roasted: do you need create a image of that disk, to install in virtualbox....
[04:08] <blizzkid_> koshari: Roasted: http://blarts.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[04:09] <kakashi> can i get some help plz ? i need to compress and tar .wine directory, but i need to keep all the symlinks and file attributes, someone knows how to do it ?
[04:09] <surfinonacid> I'm trying to follow tutorials like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking but when it says to go to system-->administration-->networking I get to adminisatration and there's no networking application, just network tools and I'm completely new to linux so I have no idea
[04:09] <koshari> blizzkid_ your telling me you can use an already installed vista in virtualbox?
[04:09] <Entraide-net> blizzkid_ I'll ask 1000 times if I want so shut up !!!
[04:09] <Roasted> blizzkid_ is this really relevant??
[04:09] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: behave!
[04:09] <wolter> Madpilot, hm... any other app? It doesn't look as good as I thought it would..
[04:09] <blizzkid_> Roasted: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3774
[04:09] <RHorse> !love > Entraide-net
[04:10] <Roasted> blizzkid_ are you seeing soemthing I'm not? I don't see how this info helps...
[04:10] <Entraide-net> do you know about vpn , vnc , tunelling , proxies ? I got multiple lan cards also ...
[04:10] <Madpilot> wolter, scribus is pretty much it for DTP on Linux. I know there's people doing newspaper/magazine type layout in it, too. Bit of a learning curve, but all DTP apps have that...
[04:10] <Piet> kakashi: tar cpzf /path/to/where/to/store/archive.tar.gz ~/.wine
[04:11] <blizzkid_> Roasted: "Please have a look at the user manual, section 9.9 (using a raw hard disk from the guest)."
[04:11] <Roasted> now to find the user manual...
[04:11] <blizzkid_> Roasted: isn't that exactly what you're looking for?
[04:11] <jats> wolter: Just curious, what don't you like about it? Also, I don't think there's a good substitute, unfortunately. I have made a paper in it for a school assignment. Worked well, I thought.
[04:11] <pablo_> www.virtualbox.org
[04:11] <boozler> Does any one know of *nix api equivalent to windows "sendinput" or "sendkeys"
[04:11] <blizzkid_> Roasted: just a wild guess... maybe on virtualbox.org?
[04:11] <koshari> Roasted afaik you can use a real disk as a virtual machine but i dont beleive you can run an existing vista disk in vbox, to begin with the drivers will be set up for the actual hardware on the system rather than the virtual environment
[04:11] <inasmu> Roasted: more specifically: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#rawdisk
[04:12] <Roasted> hey thanks inasmu!!
[04:12] <Entraide-net> Roasted : http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/run-your-windows-partition-without-rebooting I tell you to go see that for about 5 minutes
[04:12] <lvlefisto> is there a way to load nvidia drivers from the live cd?
[04:13] <pablo_> Starting with version 1.4, as an alternative to using virtual disk images (as described in detail in Chapter 5, Virtual storage), VirtualBox can also present either entire physical hard disks or selected partitions thereof as virtual disks to virtual machines.
[04:13] <Piet> boozler: i could tell you if i knew what "sendinput" or "sendkeys" are
[04:13] <chargersfan420> Hey everyone!  This may sound like a weird question, but is there a way i can verify that my gpu is doing all the graphics work and not the cpu?
[04:13] <koshari> lvlefisto not really as the system prompts for a reboot to load the nvidia drivers
[04:13] <blizzkid_> Roasted: now, be honest, was all that info so hard to find?
[04:13] <curtmack> Okay, question. I'm going to update my nvidia driver to 180.55 because I'm getting a bunch of graphical glitches in X
[04:13] <lvlefisto> koshari: thanks
[04:13] <boozler> Piet: those functions send key strokes or mouse events. basically automate user input to other applications
[04:13] <Roasted> entraide-net - This is for VMWare, not Virtualbox.
[04:13] <Deevz> can i change the size of iconson my desktop?
[04:13] <Roasted> blizzkid_ what's that? The video here?
[04:14] <Entraide-net> I know but it's better but not totally open ...
[04:14] <blizzkid_> Roasted: I mean the vbox manual, how to use physical disks
[04:14] <curtmack> do I have to uninstall my Ubuntu version, reboot, and then install the nvidia release, or should I just be able to uninstall the current version and then install the new release without rebooting?
[04:14] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: define "better"?
[04:14] <Roasted> blizzkid_ I'm reading through it now, but so far... no dice...
[04:14] <boozler> Piet: Im looking for code to move the mouse around the screen.. basically
[04:14] <Piet> boozler: ah, well many applications on linux have CLIs, so the easiest thing is to use them if you're after automation
[04:14] <ccb0x45> is ata3 usually a dvd drive or a hard drive?
[04:14] <Entraide-net> better is a matter of choice ...
[04:14] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: in my experience vbox is far better than vmware on the desktop
[04:15] <Roasted> I guess it was just my mistake for thinking maybe more people than myself just happened to think, oh, I dual boot - but let's try virtualizing windows that already exists!
[04:15] <boozler> Piet: yeah but that's not really the solution i'm looking for
[04:15] <Entraide-net> Vmware support 3D and native partition , VirtualBox only begin to use that
[04:15] <Roasted> VMware is a cost product though, isnt it?
[04:15] <blizzkid_> Roasted: it's a common thing, so a simple google would have showed you how to do it, but no, you ask in #ubuntu, and then ignore links being given to you, or only read them partly
[04:15] <matt098> noop
[04:16] <ziroday> Entraide-net: err vbos supports though as awell
[04:16] <matt098> vmware has its free versions
[04:16] <Piet> boozler: sounds to me like you should be using some programming language with a gtk interface.
[04:16] <chuck_> Deevz, right click the icon and choose stretch icon
[04:16] <Entraide-net> nope for linux it's free in two versions
[04:16] <ziroday> Entraide-net: virtualbox even
[04:16] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: native partition as in physical?
[04:16] <matt098> i use it on my windows xp pc to learn ubuntu
[04:16] <Entraide-net> yes physical
[04:16] <Roasted> blizzkid_ Actually, I did google... but everywhere I read was people setting up a new install of XP/Vista. And the links being supplied to me through this chat (although I appreciate the help) weren't relevant to me.
[04:16] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: vbox supports that since 2007
[04:16] <Roasted> blizzkid_ I utilize google every day of the week since I work in IT Support. I guess it was my mistake for thinking maybe this channel would be of some use. But hey, thanks anyway.
[04:16] <blizzkid_> Roasted: how is "read chapter 9 of the manual" not relevant?
[04:17] <chargersfan420> anyone know a way i can verify that my gpu is doing all the graphics work and not the cpu?
[04:17] <Roasted> blizzkid_ I just told you I'm reading through it now.
[04:17] <Roasted> but so far, everything else has been irrelevant
[04:17] <ziroday> chargersfan420: pastebin your glxinfo
[04:17] <Acaceol> I don't have a /dev/fb0. I'm assuming that's bad.
[04:17] <Acaceol> How do I fix it?
[04:17] <Decepticon> how can i link a log file to my public_html so that i can see a constantly updated version of it via the web (insteead of copying a static snapshot of the file over to public_html)
[04:17] <jats> matt098: Wubi is an easy way to try Ubuntu w/o virtualizing it. Have you considered that as an option?
[04:17] <ziroday> Acaceol: its fine
[04:17] <Entraide-net> blizzkid_ what about the 3d on virtualbox ???
[04:17] <inasmu> Decepticon: set up a symlink in public_html?
[04:17] <Acaceol> ziroday: A game I'm trying to play won't work without it. (Egoboo)
[04:18] <blizzkid_> Roasted: so don't say it's not relevant... Not trying to judge you, but sometimes you have to put in some effort, and thorouhly read what people tell you, before judging it as irrelevanr
[04:18] <ziroday> Entraide-net: virtualbox has 3D support
[04:18] <Deevz> thx chuck_, thats awesome
[04:18] <blizzkid_> Entraide-net: that's indeed quite new
[04:18] <ziroday> Acaceol: I can't help you with that sorry
[04:18] <chargersfan420> ziroday: sorry, i'm a bit new to this... what is pastebin?
[04:18] <ziroday> !pastebin | chargersfan420
[04:18] <chuck_> Deevz, your welcome
[04:18] <Roasted> blizzkid_ When I'm being given links on forums dated years ago that are in no way shape or form relevant to what I'm doing, I then begin the right to say "This is not what I was looking for." So don't crap your pants when I ask again hoping for more answers.
[04:18] <Roasted> that's all I'm saying
[04:19] <inasmu> Roasted, blizzkid_: take it into a PM
[04:19] <Roasted> nah
[04:19] <ziroday> Roasted: blizzkid_ I think it might be a good idea to stop this discussion here
[04:19] <Roasted> nah
[04:19] <porter1> Has anyone else been experiencing problems with gnome-screensaver not accepting password? Instead, I have to go back to gdm and login that way...
[04:19] <blizzkid_> ziroday: yeah, I'm not even wasting more energy on stubborn people right now
[04:19] <Entraide-net> I need to patch alsa-driver http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/ can someone explain me how to do it for hardy ???
[04:20] <Roasted> :)
[04:20] <Acaceol> Can anyone help me get framebuffer working? (That's what /dev/fb0 is for, right? I've no idea what I'm doing.)
[04:20] <blizzkid_> it's just if someone asks how do I do xyz and you point them to a website titled how to do xyz, that seems fairly relevant to me
[04:20] <porter1> Entraide-net, why not use the deb provided?
[04:20] <Piet> Decepticon: you may also need to instruct the web server to follow this symbolic link. For example, if using Apache, you'd need to add something like <Directory /home/user123/~public_html/>Options +FollowSymlinks</Directory>
[04:21] <Decepticon> it seems like its working
[04:21] <Decepticon> inasmu and Piet
[04:21] <wolter> Madpilot, yeah you were right..
[04:21] <porter1> Entraide-net, as long as you have the development tools installed, the package should install
[04:21] <wolter> Madpilot, I was looking for columns, now i've found the
[04:21] <wolter> m
[04:21] <Entraide-net> the deb don't work it worked on 8.04 but not on 8.04.2 I don't know why and that why I'm stuck without sound now
[04:21] <chargersfan420> ziroday: thanks.  it is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172061/
[04:21] <truecmt> hi
[04:22] <jats> Acaceol: I think framebuffer issues can be caused by the system being overloaded with programs running.
[04:22] <truecmt> is there any reason why i should use ubuntu rather than gentoo?
[04:22] <mankash> how to install network card in ubuntu server
[04:22] <blizzkid_> anyways, I'm off for a short night's sleep
[04:22] <rabid> i am getting "hard resetting link" messages for my root device quite frequently in my syslog, i had not noticed this before moving to jaunty from intrepid, any suggestions
[04:22] <mankash> is it plug and play
[04:22] <ziroday> chargersfan420: the gpu is doing the graphical rendering
[04:22] <jats> Acaceol: I'm not experienced with the framebuffer, though.
[04:22] <Deevz> blizzkid_: you who has an eee pc, have you found a way to turn up the volume higher?
[04:22] <Entraide-net> gentoo is for specialists no versions auto-update do it yourself ... quite powerful indeed
[04:22] <Deevz> it really isnt loud at all, can barely hear anything
[04:23] <inasmu> truecmt: they are very different, ubuntu is much easier to set up and has a lot of things built for you, and with gentoo your system will be completely tailored to your computer
[04:23] <porter1> Entraide-net, you might completey break things, I'm guessing you would have to uninstall Alsa as a package and compile it yourself, not sure though.
[04:23] <chargersfan420> ziroday:  thank you.  i need to reboot and check again... will you still be here or can you point out what part of it tells you that?
[04:23] <ziroday> Deevz: try putting PCM volume louder
[04:23] <inasmu> truecmt: I've run both distros a lot if you want to discuss it in a PM
[04:23] <truecmt> sure
[04:23] <Entraide-net> porter1 can you show me how or tell me where to seek ?
[04:24] <Deevz> ziroday: it is already maxed out :(
[04:24] <ziroday> chargersfan420: sure, if you do glxinfo | grep render it should say your graphics card and direct rendering: Yes
[04:24] <devindersingh> hi
[04:24] <Entraide-net> there's patchs files don't it work with them ?
[04:24] <jats> truecmt: I think there are articles written regarding Ubuntu vs. Gentoo. Try searching google or the Ubuntu or Gentoo wikis.
[04:24] <deminished> hi i have a phrase list 2000 lines long i need to replace each line with 'phrase' or '%phrase' or '%phrase%' or 'phrase%' or
[04:24] <deminished> can any one tell me a good tool to do this ?
[04:24] <devindersingh> i have configures squid on Ubuntu
[04:24] <devindersingh> on a machine with 2 NIC
[04:24] <porter1> Entraide-net, go find the source for ALSA at alsa-project.org
[04:24] <Entraide-net> Gentoo is perfect but not for beginners
[04:25] <chargersfan420> ziroday:  thanks again!  I'll be back shortly
[04:25] <Acaceol> jats: I don't have /dev/fb0, so I'm thinking it's not installed, or I'm not using it, or something.
[04:25] <devindersingh> how can i forward all the proxy traffic to anothe prtoxy server
[04:25] <mankash> how to make ubuntu detect new NIC card
[04:25] <ziroday> chargersfan420: have fun
[04:25] <bc> anyone know where the gnome weather applet stores its data?
[04:25] <porter1> Then just patch using tha patch files provided
[04:25] <devindersingh> eth0 WAN eth1 LAN
[04:25] <Entraide-net> I use it how ???
[04:25] <syntax\> ne one experiencing vlc to freeze / hang when watching movies or soemthing?
[04:25] <devindersingh> i want all uses from LAN to get to a nother proxy server
[04:25] <devindersingh> <IP_ADDRESS>:62001
[04:25] <porter1> Entraide-net, do you know how to patch files?
[04:25] <Entraide-net> no
[04:26] <Piet> mankash: if the kernel version you are provides support for the NIC's chipset then just plug it in (after powering off, of course)
[04:26] <Entraide-net> I'm not there cause I know how ... I'm totaly out of it this time ...
[04:26] <surfinonacid> I'm still trying to figure this one out... nothing's working yet, did you figure anything out?
[04:26] <jats> Acaceol: I'm not familiar with it, so I don't think I can be of much help. But I do know from working with /dev that sometimes no digits are appended. Try /dev/fd.
[04:27] <porter1> Entraide-net, I believe that those patch files just need you to use the 'patch' command on whatever you are modifying
[04:27] <Piet> deminished: awk or sed
[04:27] <mankash> actually I have installed in a virtual machine and after installing I enabled the network card, lspci is showign the network card
[04:27] <jats> Acaceol: I'm really taking educated guesses, I'm hoping someone with actual knowledge about the framebuffer can help you.
[04:27] <mankash> ifconfig doesn't show it
[04:27] <matt098> Can anyone tell me how to whisper or pm people ?
[04:27] <deminished> ill check them out
[04:27] <Madpilot> matt098, /msg <username> <message>
[04:28] <matt098> thx u
[04:28] <fornix> mankash, try $ sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[04:28] <fornix> if eth0 is your current network card
[04:28] <devindersingh> yes eth0 to WAN
[04:28] <devindersingh> eth1 LAN
[04:29] <devindersingh> and i have squid running on the Ubuntu machine
[04:29] <Entraide-net> don't seem to work
[04:29] <GillaGal> how do I set me region on a new DVD drive?
[04:29] <Acaceol> jats: There's a /dev/fd/. The game is trying to use /dev/fb0/, though.
[04:29] <Entraide-net> how I do that ???
[04:29] <devindersingh> clients get DHCP from Eth1 LAN
[04:29] <matt098> is there anyone on that is or has built a media pc that runs and used a tv tuner card.  then i can talk to for some advice on building one ?
[04:29] <porter1> Entraide-net, start off by using 'git clone git://git.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver.git alsa-driver', which is I believe what you are wanting
[04:29] <mankash> fornix: thx
[04:30] <devindersingh> when they browse i want all to go through a proxy server <IP_ADDRESS>:62001
[04:30] <syntax\> anyone ^_^
[04:30]  * Acaceol finds it hard to believe that anyone can use Linux and actually know what they're doing.
[04:30] <Jordan_U> !dvd | GillaGal
[04:30] <deminished> Piet awk is a programing language i am unfamiliar with and sed i am unsure how could help me can you provide some kind of example ?
[04:30] <fornix> mankash: np.
[04:31] <mankash> I have question regarding iptable, need to forward port to another machine ip with different port
[04:31] <jats> Acaceol: I meant to say /dev/fb not /dev/fd. I know that you can use /dev/sda to access the entire disk instead of /dev/sda1, so maybe /dev/fb works but not /dev/fb0?
[04:31] <Piet> deminished: awk is not a programming language, ven though its syntax can seem complex.
[04:31] <Acaceol> jats: There is no /dev/fb.
[04:31] <porter1> Entraide-net, other than that, you might want to go to an ALSA chatroom or mailing list for help
[04:31] <Jordan_U> Piet: Actually yes, it is
[04:32] <Entraide-net> hey I'm just an intermediate user get easy on me ... this bug never happen before and my hardware support easily linux so I cannot understand all of this ... I'm not ready for 1337 stuff ...
[04:32] <porter1> Entriade-net, what was the problem with using the package specifically?
[04:32] <mankash> I want to forward  machineA IP:port80 to MachineB IP:port4000 using iptable
[04:32] <jats> Acaceol: That was a guess on my part. I don't think i have the knowledge to help you, sorry.
[04:33] <Acaceol> jats: That's fine, I doubt anyone does... Linux hates me. A lot.
[04:34] <Piet> deminished: here's a simplistic sed example to convert 'foo bar baz' into 'foo BAR baz': sed 's/^foo bar baz/foo BAR baz/'
[04:34] <Entraide-net> my modem deb stop the sound and the alsa deb patch it to work again but it worked on 8.04 but not on 8.04.2 maybe it's alsa version or the linux kernel that does the bug
[04:34] <chargersfan420> ziroday:  Could you take a look at this and see if any red flags go off? http://paste.ubuntu.com/172065/
[04:34] <mactimes> Acaceol: Hey
[04:34] <deminished> ok i am reading a tutorial now..
[04:34] <Acaceol> mactimes: Hello
[04:34] <mactimes> Acaceol: You were saying there is a game trying to access /dev/fb0 when it was supposed to be accessing /dev/fd0, is that correct?
[04:35] <ziroday> chargersfan420: you're good
[04:35] <Acaceol> mactimes: It's using DirectFB, so no, I don't think so. I just don't have a /dev/fb0.
[04:35] <Entraide-net> so I was updating my modem drivers but the alsa patch deb haven't worked well
[04:35] <mactimes> Acaceol: Oh, I see.
[04:36] <Acaceol> And I have no clue how to get one. Or what it is, even.
[04:36] <porter1> Entriade-net, well, you can try what I've mentioned already, and get the alsa-driver stuff from git
[04:36] <porter1> then run the patch
[04:36] <matt098> dose anyone no if there is yet a working driver for the ati radeon hd 4870 video card? for ubuntu 8.10???
[04:36] <chargersfan420> ziroday:  okay thanks... it's just that on a normal boot, i see fglrx interrupt the cpu @ 60 Hz (in powertop), but after hibernating, the entry is gone... maybe its more of a powertop issue
[04:36] <ziroday> chargersfan420: no idea sorry
[04:36]  * Acaceol goes back to XP. :/
[04:37] <rabid> been getting continuous, "hard resetting link" messages about my root device,  how can i resolve thise http://pastebin.com/m73ef1863
[04:38] <Entraide-net> porter can I run the patch now and how ?
[04:40] <porter1> Entriade-net, I'm assuming you can cd to the directory you want to patch, and then do something like 'patch -p0 < patch-name.patch'
[04:40] <AC2009> Hello, I was wondering how to enable 1920x1200 screen resolution in Ubuntu 9.04.  The display settings will only go to 1440x900.  Under XP my video card and LCD will go to 1920x1200.  I have a Radeon 9700 video card
[04:40] <porter1> Entriade-net, you might want to change the relative paths in the patch file though
[04:40] <AaronMT> !resolution
[04:41] <loser> hi everyone! how do u exit X Server? i want to install nvidia driver in jaunty thanks in advance
[04:41] <outbri> ctrl-backspace
[04:41] <porter1> crl+alt=BkSpace
[04:41] <AC2009> thank you
[04:41] <porter1> :)
[04:41] <AaronMT> It's disabled in Jaunty
[04:41] <rabid> ctl+alt+f1 drops you out to tty1
[04:42] <outbri> rabid:that leaves X running, though?
[04:42] <rabid> kill it then, stop gdm and any Xorgs
[04:42] <rabid> i usually just log out, then /etc/init.d/gdm stop temporarily
[04:42] <outbri> so ctrl-alt-f1, login and then killall X should do it for you loser.
[04:43] <porter1> If it doesn't want to stop killal is your friedn :)
[04:43] <porter1> I cannot type tonight...
[04:43] <rabid> cept gdm will restart the xserver if you leave that going
[04:43] <rabid> so go ahead and shut it down
[04:44] <rabid> anyone seen my crazy DRDY ERR with hard resetting links message for /dev/sda in jaunty?
[04:44] <fido> ESPAÑOL
[04:45] <Cryptic_Bat> How do i get this working 01:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[04:45] <fido> hola
[04:45] <pablo> si?
[04:45] <AaronMT> !english > fido
[04:45] <xangua> ubottu: !es | fido pablo
[04:45] <Piet> !es > fido
[04:45] <Cryptic_Bat> !es | fido
[04:45] <porter1> Spam him!
[04:45] <pablo> thanks
[04:46] <MTecknology> How do I update my system time from cli?
[04:46] <AaronMT> sudo apt-get update
[04:46] <Entraide-net> porter1: Which file I tell it to patch ???
[04:46] <RHorse> MTecknology date
[04:46] <Cryptic_Bat> How do i get this working 01:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)?
[04:46] <MTecknology> RHorse: I meant sync from NTP
[04:46] <porter1> Entriade, all you need to do is be in the folder that corresponds with what the patch file is looking for.
[04:47] <redpearl> there's a discrepancy when i check folder size via two tools. one is "du -h" and the other is right click and properties the folder via nautilus
[04:47] <redpearl> which is correct?
[04:47] <Entraide-net> can't find file to patch at input line 4
[04:47] <Entraide-net> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[04:47] <Entraide-net> The text leading up to this was:
[04:47] <Entraide-net> --------------------------
[04:47] <Entraide-net> |diff -urN alsa-driver-git20090424/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c alsa-driver-git20090424-hda/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c
[04:47] <FloodBot1> Entraide-net: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <MTecknology> caimlas: hi
[04:47] <caimlas> MTecknology, hi.
[04:47] <Piet> MTecknology: sudo aptitude install ntp
[04:47] <jeniffer> hello boys! I would like to know if some of you know what is the driver Ubuntu uses to manage touchscreens......Thanks a lot!!!
[04:48] <Entraide-net> porter1: that's the problem
[04:49] <MTecknology> Piet: How do I sync w/ that?
[04:49] <Decepticon> how do i change the time
[04:49] <MTecknology> Piet: I've never done it
[04:49] <Piet> Cryptic_Bat: if the module for this NIC is already loaded, just add am 'iface' stanza to /etc/network/interfaces
[04:49] <Piet> MTecknology: the package installs a daemon which does it automatically.
[04:49] <Decepticon> how can i update time with the atomic clocks and change my timezone
[04:49] <porter1> Entriade-net, the paths are wrong. You must change the relative paths in the patch file itslef first.
[04:49] <Decepticon> i am on command line
[04:50] <MTecknology> Piet: nice :)
[04:50] <Piet> MTecknology: i think there is also the ntpdate package which you can - as a replacement to 'ntp' - use to update the time manually from a remote ntp server
[04:50] <SaEeDIRHA> hello there, how can i turn off music auto play when i move my mouse cursor over mp3 file ?
[04:51] <Piet> Decepticon: see my recent conversation with MTecknology
[04:51] <porter1> Entriade-net, an example. THe first line says 'diff -urN alsa-driver-git20090424/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c alsa-driver-git20090424-hda/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_codec.c'
[04:51] <ziroday> SaEeDIRHA: Edit > Preferences > Preview
[04:51] <porter1> Entriade-net, you don't need all those other folders at the beginning necessarily, depending on where your patching
[04:51] <Decepticon> Piet oh thats amazing i didnt see your very recent conversation
[04:52] <Decepticon> about the same thing heh
[04:52] <Piet> Decepticon: to change your timezone, run this: sudo tzconfig
[04:52] <Decepticon> i am retarded
[04:52] <SaEeDIRHA> ziroday: thank you :D
[04:52] <razerblk_> all good im a newbi too
[04:52] <Decepticon> (Piet) MTecknology: sudo aptitude install ntp
[04:52] <mib_x0606gkw> Hey can anyone help me cam isnt working in skype but it works everwhere ese, all i get in skype is white where my video should be and also  get shite on the other persons cam too is there anything i can do?
[04:52] <Piet> Decepticon: funny coincident
[04:52] <mib_x0606gkw> white*
[04:53] <kaikirske> #channel
[04:53] <caimlas> I've got an integrated USB card reader (3.5" bay) - it has a usb port, SD, CF, MMC, etc. ports. it worked in 8.10 but does not in 9.04 - specifically, the card reader portion doesn't detect SD card insertion any longer (though CF works). CF card + SD card causes an (unrecoverable, w/o dis/reconnecting it to the motherboard) USB disconnect. lsusb reports it as ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Stroage Device
[04:53] <jeniffer> hi. some of you could please tellme which driver ubuntu uses for touchcreens???
[04:53] <Cryptic_Bat> Piet: It seem that when i in stall the lxde networmanager the afformentioned network card disapeares from the ifconfig out put
[04:54] <caimlas> jeniffer, what kind of touchscreen?
[04:54] <caimlas> jeniffer, it all depends on how the hw is designed and connected, as well as the controller.
[04:54] <Decepticon> Piet what package is tzconfig from
[04:55] <skot> irc.rebelwratch.com
[04:55] <KingKimi> Hello all !
[04:55] <matt098> hi
[04:55] <Piet> Cryptic_Bat: i don't know lxde network manager, so i'm afraid i cannot help there.
[04:55] <jeniffer> caimlas this is a elo touch screen using usb conection
[04:55] <mib_x0606gkw> Hey can anyone help me cam isnt working in skype but it works everwhere ese, all i get in skype is white where my video should be and also  get shite on the other persons cam too is there anything i can do?
[04:55] <caimlas> jeniffer, is it registered via lsusb?
[04:56] <MTecknology> Piet: what's a server I could sync from?
[04:56] <Piet> Deception, apt-file could tell, and so can http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:56] <caimlas> jeniffer, ie type 'lsusb' with plugged in and see if it registers.
[04:56] <Mikey^> I use window maker, Is there any dock app for network manager ?
[04:56] <Mikey^> I need to open a terminal always to connect to wireless network
[04:56] <Cryptic_Bat> Piet: Do i need to download the broadcom linux driver?
[04:57] <KingKimi> mib_x0606gkw, have you seen !webcam in ubottu ?
[04:57] <KingKimi> !webcam
[04:57] <caimlas> jeniffer, is it integral to the system (ie part of a laptop) or is it a standalone device?
[04:57] <mib_x0606gkw> Yes
[04:57] <mib_x0606gkw> my cam used to work
[04:57] <jeniffer> yes
[04:57] <mib_x0606gkw> but sence i upgraded
[04:57] <mib_x0606gkw> it hast on skype
[04:57] <FloodBot1> mib_x0606gkw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <jeniffer> caimlas yes it is registered
[04:57] <Piet> MTecknology: which country is the system located in?
[04:57] <MTecknology> Piet: US, -6
[04:57] <koala8919> The splashcreen of my ubuntu 9.04 doesn't finish it's load anymore, instead it shows the kernel infos and then go to GDM. I'd already added "quiet" on ther kernel parameter of the boot entry. Please help, thanks
[04:57] <jeniffer> caimlas it is a stand alone screen
[04:58] <Piet> Cryptic_Bat: run this to see if a module was already loaded: sudo lsmod|grep bcm
[04:58] <Piet> MTecknology: us.pool.ntp.org
[04:58] <caimlas> jeniffer, ok. what's the device ID?
[04:58] <caimlas> jeniffer, the full output line for that device should suffice
[04:58] <mano> i'm a beginner at ubuntu . i want to make a batch type file to echo my uptime. i know i can type uptime in terminal. i put it in pad and run it as an excutable but it just flashes and closes, anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[04:58] <zanberdo_> I've recently installed ubuntu jaunty netremix on my new asus eeepc 901. Everything seems to work, but for some reason I can't get it to connect to my wireless network. It's configured identical to the machine I'm currently using (save that this is running intrepid) and I'm not sure where to look for information/logging
[04:58] <jeniffer> caimlas ID 04e7:0020 Elo TouchSystems
[04:59] <caimlas> manio, you want to have uptime displayed repetitively in a terminal?
[04:59] <porter1> koala8919, do you have nvidia drivers? Some computers seem to not have the nvidia logo appear anymore
[04:59] <Piet> MTecknology: http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html
[04:59] <MTecknology> Piet: thanks :)
[05:00] <mano> yep in terminal is good caimlas! just when i double click the batch. i just want it simple so i double click it when i need to, i'm a beginner so dont want it ultra complex yet
[05:00] <porter1> So it jumps back out and then back in because (I'm guessing) it cannot find the nvidia display screen
[05:00] <koala8919> porter1: nope, mine's an intel...
[05:00] <KingKimi> koala8919, sudo update-usplash-theme
[05:00] <MTecknology> Piet: it was irritating having my irc and desktop report diff times :P
[05:00] <Piet> MTecknology: welcome :)
[05:00] <KingKimi> koala8919, sudo apt-get install usplash-theme-ubuntu
[05:00] <MTecknology> only 2min
[05:00] <caimlas> manio, watch uptime
[05:00] <caimlas> type that in terminal, that what you want?
[05:01] <Piet> Cryptic_Bat: apparently the card must have been working already since you say it did show up in the 'ifconfig' output
[05:01] <koala8919> KIngKimi: Thanks will try it :)
[05:02] <KingKimi> koala8919, good luck !
[05:02] <mano> ok thanks caimlas that worked well. i put that in text editor and terminal popped up ok. i take it the only way to get out of it is to crtl + c or X close?
[05:02] <caimlas> jeniffer, this thread should help point you to what you're after (ie whether a vendor has supplied a driver, or whether the kindly open source people have implemented one themselves): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579155
[05:02] <Piet> Cryptic_Bat: when run without additional parameters, this command only lists NICs that are active, i.e. a driver module is available and loaded and the NIC is actually ready to transfer data.
[05:02] <caimlas> mano, sure
[05:03] <caimlas> jeniffer, is that helpful?
[05:03] <caimlas> jeniffer, I didn't read through the whole thing
[05:03] <chaorain> Hey I'm trying to shrink an xfs partition (Yes I know, impossible). If I use Clonezilla to back up the partition to a another disk (both are local) then delete the XFS then make a smaller XFS partition, would it work? (Also need to do this with XP)
[05:03] <Piet> Cryptic_Bat: apparently the lxde network manager disables the interface, for a reson i do not know. if that is a problem, then i suggest you do not use this application.
[05:03] <caimlas> jeniffer, I suspect that it might not work w/ the newer releases, for one reason or another, but give a read.
[05:03] <jeniffer> caimlas i asked because the touchscreen is working right in ubuntu, but i need to install some driver in another distro... i will read
[05:03] <jeniffer> caimlas thanks a lot!
[05:03] <mano> is there any way i can make it open in terminal without making it an excutable in properties? like making it a different extension
[05:03] <caimlas> jeniffer, good luck and stuff
[05:04] <jeniffer> caimlas i will need it....i have been trying to do that a week ago
[05:04] <koala8919> KingKimi: By the way, I have just added the grub entry of ubuntu on the menu.lst of my Arch Linux install.  Would this by the cause of such problem?
[05:04] <caimlas> mano, first, what are you doing w/ this crap in a script? it's a single command. second, it doesn't matter what the extension is - chmod +x can/will make any file executable.
[05:04] <Piet> chaorain: that would work. but you would still not have the old data on the new file system :-P
[05:05] <KingKimi> koala8919, if you didnot enter the correct UUID it might cause problems ........
[05:05] <Chepo> Wasap.
[05:05] <mano> just curious how it works caimlas only had it a couple of days , did not know chmod command
[05:05] <chaorain> Piet, I forgot to include use clone zilla to restore partition. Would it work?
[05:05] <ZykoticK9> 9.04 Mouse is suddenly laggy, when X starts from a fresh boot mouse is fine, then after a period (a minute or so) it feels like it's underwater.  If the mouse is continually moved after a fresh boot, it will work correctly until you stop mouse movement - then the problem will immediately be present?!
[05:05] <RHorse> !cli
[05:06] <koala8919> KingKimi: I didn't have the UUID, I just used the real entry itself for the partition :)
[05:06] <caimlas> mano, word of advice, don't use GUI tools for console/raw manipulation. it'll only screw you up
[05:06] <Piet> chaorain: not into a smaller partition, no. i think what you really want to do is to copy the files
[05:06] <mano> ok man thanks!
[05:06] <KingKimi> koala8919, in ubuntu terminal, do these 4 commands >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172074/
[05:07] <KingKimi> koala8919, i had* this problem... and these 4 commands solved it out
[05:07] <mano> i made a couple of ones to kill stuff that hang too so got happy with that , my adventures so far are one liner commands lol
[05:07] <chaorain> Piet, Clonezilla won't copy into a smaller partition? btw the XFS is NOT full about 200 GB free.
[05:08] <GillaGal> Can anyone tell me how I set me region on a new DVD drive?  regionset doesn't seem to work.
[05:08]  * burner likes hotkeys to launch things
[05:08] <Scruff_Mcgruff> my ubuntu partitioning fails at 33% anyone else ever get that? it happens every time.
[05:08] <KingKimi> koala8919, after you compare with the first,  if you find it ddifferent, update that file using the second line
[05:08] <zanberdo_> ok
[05:08] <zanberdo_> so
[05:09] <burner> GillaGal: did you install regionset?
[05:09] <zanberdo_> what might cause my wifi to connect to one router and not to my router at home?
[05:09] <zanberdo_> I've disabled all encryption and still it won't connect
[05:09] <zanberdo_> now, it scans just fine, I can see my router, along with my neighbors
[05:09] <koala8919> KingKimi: Do I really need the UUID?
[05:09] <Piet> chaorain: what clonezilla does is to create an image of the entire partition. this image still refers to the fully sized partition and this will never change.
[05:09] <KingKimi> koala8919, i think "yes" :P :P .. i had your problem... and those 4 lines helped me to solve it ... do that in ubuntu's terminal  ... give it a try //
[05:09] <voxadam> I just installed 9.04 on an old box I dug out of the closet but every time I boot the kernel crashes, usually before hitting KDM and always before reaching the desktop. How do I keep X from starting and go text only so I can poke around?
[05:09] <zanberdo_> and I've used this device at a different location where I was able to connect
[05:09]  * bc likes that burner likes hotkeys to launch things because bc likes hotkeys to launch things
[05:09] <KB1JWQ> zanberdo_: SSID issues?
[05:10] <burner> zanberdo_: maybe it has the info stored about your router with a key?  Try changing the SSID even... or update your firmware
[05:10] <zanberdo_> KB1JWQ, please elaborate
[05:10] <Piet> chaorain: use cp -pr
[05:10] <koala8919> KingKimi: Here is my grub entry for ubuntu, I can boot from it...http://pastebin.com/m273ddfb7
[05:10] <zanberdo_> burner, I will try changing the ssid, but other devices in my home can connect
[05:10] <KB1JWQ> SSID broadcast disabled breaks some units.
[05:10] <chaorain> Piet, Ok so just copy the files? btw the XFS is the /var for an old (8.10) install (still runs)
[05:10] <zanberdo_> burner, it's just this new netbook
[05:10] <burner> voxadam: you can boot the "recovery" kernel via grub by pressing esc in the beginning of the boot process
[05:10] <RHorse> zanberdo_ try from cli and see if any err msgs pop up
[05:11] <zanberdo_> burner, and the firmware is dd-wrt 24sp1 on linksyswrt54g ver2 router, so it's pretty much the latest
[05:11] <burner> zanberdo_: and maybe "network-manager" or hte applet in the top right where you control wifi from has a bad key stored.  Right-click, edit connections, and check out "wireless"
[05:11] <KingKimi> koala8919, but why dont you try those 4 lines in my paste ? ;-)
[05:11] <zanberdo_> burner, yes, I've checked that, deleted the config several times. still no go...
[05:12] <johnP> Im in Unbuntu HELL Im new to Unbuntu new as in just this last hour. Im an Unbuntu Virgin. In add remove programs, can i search the drive to add programs, lets say programs on my desktop with a .deb file extention?
[05:12] <zanberdo_> but I think I will try to change the ssid
[05:12] <Entraide-net> how to patch alsa ???? .patch file type
[05:12] <burner> johnP: just double-click the .deb on your desktop to install it
[05:12] <burner> Entraide-net: that involves compiling software...  are you sure you need to patch alsa?
[05:12] <KingKimi> johnP, double click the .deb file..
[05:13] <RocknRoll> what Programming language should i study to develop app for linux?/
[05:13] <burner> zanberdo_: try one without spaces or a shorter name?  is it 802.11b and your router is set to only allow g?  /me shrugs... Best of luck!
[05:13] <Entraide-net> compiling grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:13] <stevecam> why does my ubuntu log out after i leave it locked for a while
[05:14] <burner> RocknRoll: bash, gtk, qt, wxwidgets, python, c++, c, perl, ruby
[05:14] <burner> :)
[05:14] <koala8919> KingKimi: I'll just have to finish some things on my arch, will boot and try what you've said after...:) Thanks again
[05:14] <zanberdo_> burner, yes, I've considered all those items (thank you). the name is 4 chars, no spaces or special chars. the router is configured for mixed mode (b/g) with wpa with tkip & aes support...
[05:14]  * RocknRoll sighs
[05:14] <Piet> chaorain: yup, as i said :)
[05:14] <burner> Entraide-net: if you sound doesn't work... maybe there are other fixes
[05:14] <KingKimi> koala8919, bonne chance !
[05:14] <KingKimi> koala8919, good luck
[05:15] <joe_> Can someone help me fix my mouse on Jaunty? It shoots across the screen and clicks randomly when it feels like
[05:15] <RocknRoll> burner: gimmer minimun no of languages ;)
[05:15] <burner> zanberdo_: yeah sorry amigo... i'm out of ideas, but you sound like you're going to get it :)
[05:15] <Entraide-net> burner : I'm on hardy 8.04.2 x86 and my sound don't work after I have done this tutorial : http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/06/getting-modem-to-work-in-hardy.html if someone as an idea tell me ...
[05:16] <johnP> I cant do that.. this thing called a package installer pops up and tells me something about a dependency is not satisfiable; libdbus-1-2 (>=60) im thinking, yeah right.. whatever.. o.k. what does all that crap mean? lucky for me.. i did find the add remove program and managed to doenload and install the filew from there.. but i need to know cus i may have to download things off the net that is not in the add remove programs list.
[05:16] <RocknRoll> burner: gimme minimun no of languages ;)
[05:16] <burner> RocknRoll: it really depends on where you want to contribute... if you just want to hack on some app... find out what that app is coded in :)  if you want to start from scratch, analyze what your app should do first...
[05:16] <chaorain> Piet, ok thanks for all the help. Boy I love my 1.5tb hdd for backups :D
[05:16] <Entraide-net> the second .deb should have patched alsa but It don't seem to have worked
[05:16] <stevecam> is there a way to stop ubuntu from logging out automaticly
[05:16] <burner> chaorain: sbackup?  I'm curious what you use
[05:16] <johnP> or else i would not be taling now in xchat..
[05:17] <jbl1> RocknRoll: depends, if you're a total newbie, a scripting language is what you want, Python, Ruby or Perl are all valiant candidates
[05:17] <Piet> chaorain: :) welcome.
[05:17] <chaorain> burner, what do you mean?
[05:17] <burner> stevecam: doesn't autologout here... maybe it's a power management thing?
[05:17] <stevecam> cant see anything in powermanagement
[05:17] <burner> chaorain: for your big backup drive... what app do you use to automate backup systems to try to be as cool as time machine?
[05:17] <RocknRoll> jbl1: in NetApp Enterprise What they will use ;) ?
[05:17] <burner> chaorain: I've been using "simple backup" and it's ok, but I'm just curious
[05:18] <gnrfan> has anybody had success mouting a HFS+ (Leopard) partion RW from the Ubuntu Live CD? I'm using Jaunty.. mounts report it as "rw" but I won't write and say it's mounted read-only
[05:18] <joe__> Has anyone else ever seen the scrolling mouse problem in jaunty
[05:18] <voxadam> burner: I did what you said and have a root shell now. Now how do I keep X from starting when I reboot?
[05:18] <burner> voxadam: remove kdm and gdm? :)
[05:18] <chaorain> burner, actually I use it as my main HDD I just make a foulder in there and copy-paste
[05:18] <chaorain> er
[05:18] <chaorain> folder
[05:19] <burner> so it's not a backup drive then ;)
[05:19] <phuzion> I have webmin.  Suppose I want to create a cron job that runs the command wget --mirror http://some.site.com every 15 minutes (i have permission to do so).  Would I put the entire command on the "command" line, or just wget then the --mirror etc in "input to command?
[05:21] <jbl1> RocknRoll: I don't know NetApp but from what their web site says it is, I guess they're using a Web Framework  like Django or Ruby on Rails, so a scripting language
[05:21] <johnP> Doublicking on a file to install dont work i get an error  dependency is not satisfiable; libdbus-1-2 (>=60) what does this mean?
[05:21] <burner> johnP: it means you need that libdbus-1-2 before your .deb will install.  are you sure the .deb is for the right version of ubuntu?
[05:22] <burner> johnP: if so, try to open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:22] <RocknRoll> jbl1: thanks man
[05:22] <burner> johnP: then if you want to get real tricky, you can install the .deb on your desktop via the term by doing "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/*.deb"  what what!
[05:22] <KingKimi> want a command that must display where my root partition is  : (hd? , ?)
[05:22] <burner> KingKimi: sudo fdisk -l ?
[05:22] <johnP> no im not.. but heck. i find downloading things for flavors of linux a nightmare..the web page said the file was for unbutu.. thats all i know.
[05:22] <CQ> hello, I upgraded to jaunty, everything worked, then I switched from a VGA to a DVI Cable and now I get no X ... any ideas? already tried reboots and a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ...
[05:23] <Scruff_Mcgruff> is it possible to do a manual install of ubuntu server?
[05:23] <jeniffer> caimlas thanks a lot....it seems it is a matter of configuration...good night!
[05:23] <jeniffer> ;)
[05:23] <burner> johnP: what is hte app?
[05:23] <KingKimi> burner, it lists all partitions.. but my question is that any command will display output as (hd? , ?)
[05:24] <mogus> Besk disk visualization on Gnome ?  I liked fsview on KDE but its not well integrated into Gnome
[05:24] <johnP> well its xchat.. but not xchat dor gnome.. i needed it cus 9surprise0 i have other questions about this unbuntu thing..
[05:24] <burner> KingKimi: I don't know of any, but the /dev/sda1 or /deb/sdb2 can be translated to hd0,0 and hd1,1 respectively
[05:24] <Madpilot> johnP, Xchat is in Ubuntu's repos, you nkow
[05:24] <johnP> the one i got from add remove was xchat for gnome..
[05:25] <KingKimi> burner, thnx.
[05:25] <Madpilot> johnP, real xchat is in repos
[05:25] <johnP> No i dont know..
[05:25] <Scruff_Mcgruff> is it possible to do a manual install of ubuntu server?
[05:25] <sacarlson> KingKimi:  the command df
[05:25] <johnP> what is repos?
[05:25] <snuxoll> define: manual
[05:25] <Madpilot> johnP, get Add/Remove to show you "All Available applications"
[05:25] <KingKimi> johnP, system > admin > synaptic
[05:25] <Scruff_Mcgruff> snuxoll: like copy files myself since the installer doesn't seem to work
[05:25] <burner> johnP: yeah, like Madpilot said... it's in teh repos... you might be able to get it via add/remove if you change the options to show "all available applications" instead of just ubuntu apps
[05:26] <Piet> KingKimi: why are you looking for this in the first place? is it related to grub?
[05:26] <KingKimi> in synaptic , search for xchat and mark and apply
[05:26] <snuxoll> Scruff_Mcgruff: erm. 'technically', but it's something that would be overly complicated and would take weeks to do
[05:26] <KingKimi> Piet, NO ..  to locate my root partition with output as (hd*,*)
[05:26] <johnP> O.k... no worries guys.. im gonna save this whole char when we are done.. but.. exactly what is repos?
[05:26] <sacarlson> KingKimi:  then I guess you would have to look at /boot/grub/device.map to see how sda1 maps to hd0,0
[05:27] <Madpilot> johnP, short form of "repositories" - the archives Ubuntu stores all available apps in
[05:27] <joe_> Does anyone know the fix for randomly scrolling and clicking mouse in jaunty?
[05:27] <KingKimi> sacarlson, (hd0)	/dev/sda
[05:27] <Piet> KingKimi: i mean, why do you want to map your root partition to (hd*,*) in the first place
[05:27] <Scruff_Mcgruff> snuxoll: do you know why i can't install an os to my external hardrive without erroring but i can use it as an external hardrive?
[05:27] <KingKimi> Piet, to know how to find my root partition
[05:27] <Piet> joe_: i don't. but i suggest you have a look at the xorg log file
[05:28] <snuxoll> Scruff_Mcgruff: because debian-install doesn't like external drives, don't ask why
[05:28] <KingKimi> Piet, i mean to know where my root is
[05:28] <blndr08> does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu Studio?
[05:28] <snuxoll> Scruff_Mcgruff: I just install to an internal HDD and then move it into an enclosure
[05:28] <Piet> KingKimi: well whatever :)
[05:28] <sacarlson> KingKimi:  is that a question? ya that's normaly how it's maped but can change the device.map file
[05:28] <burner> Piet: do you know a way to show the format in hd#,# instead of /dev/hda# /
[05:28] <johnP> O,.k yes i see what you are saying and i did read on the net just go and open up the applications folder and find xchat.. but it wasnt there.. so i downloaded a copy.
[05:29] <Scruff_Mcgruff> well i'm running windows on this computer, so i'd just boot in windows after installing to a 2nd hardrive, then boot in safemode and copy the files from the internal to external?
[05:29] <Madpilot> johnP, Ubuntu has two repositories - Universe & Multiverse - that aren't enabled by default. Switching Add/Remove to 'all available applications' is the easiest way of enabling them
[05:29] <snuxoll> Scruff_Mcgruff: you can't just copy the files like that most of the time (grub, etc)
[05:29] <snuxoll> Scruff_Mcgruff: you'd have to dd the partition
[05:29] <burner> johnP: delete whatever you downloaded and get it via add/remove or synaptic package manager
[05:29] <Piet> burner: you could just script it
[05:30] <johnP> Im looking in my folders now and i do not have two copies of xchat.. just the one i just got to install.. perhaps vey version didnt hae uit?
[05:30] <sacarlson> KingKimi:  so if that the case the (hd0,0) would be /dev/sda1  (hd0,1) would be /dev/sda2  I think
[05:30] <Scruff_Mcgruff> dd?
[05:30] <bostwick> so i installed linuxant and it has my wireless driver on its list, but when I install it, it says installing and stops at 50% then closes.
[05:30] <Piet> burner: but the mapping between bios drive notation and linux devices is tricky, and even grub fails on that sometimes.
[05:30] <KingKimi> sacarlson, ok
[05:30] <bostwick> im running ubuntu 9.04
[05:30] <bostwick> err
[05:30] <johnP> i see so its possible i did have it on my system, and just coul not see it..
[05:30] <burner> sacarlson: you think correctly :)
[05:30] <bostwick> the newest dist
[05:31] <johnP> well yeah i can delete the pone off the desktop..no problem.
[05:31] <muflord> How would I copy a dvd to an iso?
[05:31] <burner> johnP: you don't have it on your system, but it is in the repositories, waiting for you to pick it for download and installation
[05:31] <KingKimi> johnP, install it using synaptic ........
[05:31] <Piet> bostwick: run it from a terminal and see if it outputs errors there.
[05:31] <bk> i have a problem with lock
[05:31] <bk> apt get lock
[05:31] <bk> how do i stop it
[05:31] <bostwick> run what?
[05:31] <bk> its hung
[05:31] <KingKimi> muflord, using brasero
[05:31] <FloodBot3> bk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <bostwick> I installed linuxant fine
[05:31] <johnP> Oh i see.. the repos are on a server so,eplace.
[05:31] <bostwick> its when I try to install the driver with it that it gets to 50% then stops
[05:32] <bk> what do i do about dpkg getting locked and hanging?
[05:32] <johnP> someplace
[05:32] <KingKimi> muflord, choose disk copy and in select a disk to write > choose it as image file
[05:32] <burner> johnP: exactly :)  many servers that are mirrored all over the world to expound a little
[05:32] <bostwick> I tried using ndiswrapper but when I install the .inf file the driver says no hardware is present.
[05:33] <Madpilot> johnP, they are, and add/remove (and the other ways of installing stuff) pull stuff off those servers
[05:33] <Piet> bostwick: you're referring to the linuxant modem drivers, i suppose?
[05:33] <muflord> kingkimi, sweet, thanks for the help
[05:33] <bostwick> yes
[05:33] <bostwick> WLAN drivers
[05:33] <KingKimi> johnP, system > admin > software resources  and choose download server in your country or closest to you.. to get good speed
[05:33] <Piet> bostwick: oh i see, have no experience with those nor with ndiswrapper
[05:33] <chaorain> how do I use rm on a dir?
[05:33] <burner> s/resources/sources/g
[05:33] <FloridaGuy> my ubuntu 9.04...gnome is only loging into a desktop back ground ..no panel..no right click of mouse
[05:34] <bk> what do i do about dpkg getting locked and hanging?
[05:34] <KingKimi> chaorain, rm -r directoryname
[05:34] <Piet> bk: don't break it in the first place ;-)
[05:34] <KingKimi> !aptfix
[05:34] <johnP> O.k. another question.. i needed an ati driver.. i got it also from the repos.. but b4 that i went to the net and saw the file at ATI.com. The webpage said for it to work i had to have poxit or something for memory enabled on my system.. i went ahead and installed the ati drivers from repos, but have no idea what this poxit is or how to make my video card work.
[05:34] <bk> cant help it piet
[05:34] <bk> i didnt cntrl z instead of c
[05:34] <chaorain> KingKimi, Thanks
[05:35] <bk> cause im dumb lol
[05:35] <KingKimi> chaorain, np
[05:35] <burner> johnP: did you try just using the system -> admin -> hardware drivers program to install the drivers?
[05:35] <Piet> bk: do as ubottu just suggested
[05:36] <Sagaci> i've got my main profile on ubuntu as my name with all privileges, is there a way to simply create another user with all those privileges minus administer the system and keep my settings (eg. theme, fonts, etc)?
[05:36] <johnP> \No.. i did not know anything about that.. i just saw it in repos, figured i did not already have it cus it was unchecked.. an i downloaded and installed it from there.
[05:36] <bostwick2> wat
[05:36] <bostwick2> it said my username was in use and kicked me
[05:36] <bostwick2> >_>
[05:36] <dyess002> I have installed the Unbuntu as an application on Win XP ,How can I convert Ubunta as my single operating sys without loosing anything that I have accumulated so far, ( setting's, Files, Pictures, Movies)
[05:37] <Piet> Sagaci: are you saing you want the other use to have the same themes and fonts as you have?
[05:37] <Sagaci> yes, all users
[05:38] <Sagaci> just not the "administer the system" privilege
[05:38] <KingKimi> dyess002, guided - use entire disk  option in the ubuntu installer
[05:38] <KingKimi> dyess002, but move the existing files in ubuntu to any other storage medium like pendrives
[05:38] <johnP> O.K. did that.. it seemed to work and says i need to reboot.
[05:38] <burner> Sagaci: there's no real easy way... but you can copy your .themes and .fonts and probably some setting file to set the theme, but I don't know where that one is
[05:39] <dyess002> so i have to back up and reinstall
[05:39] <bostwick2> okay, here is my request, I need a step by step, including files to download and how to install them, guide to installing wireless drivers on ubuntu. I have the most recent version of ndiswrapper, but I dont know how to install it. I have an older version that I install directly from the ubuntu disk, but it doesnt recognise my wireless card, even though its on the capatible list for ndiswrapper
[05:39] <Piet> Sagaci: well, i'm not sure about the themes and fonts, you probably need to copy something like ~/.fonts and ~/.gnome* to the new users' home directories, or to /etc/skel/
[05:39] <KingKimi> !aptoncd > dyess002
[05:39] <KingKimi> dyess002, use aptoncd to move the downloaded files from synaptic to your new ubuntu
[05:40] <johnP> Im gonna figure out how to save this chat log so i can keep you guys instructions then reboot. i am sure you will see me again tonight LOL.. im trying to get all my needed drivers installed and set up.
[05:40] <KingKimi> dyess002, yes. complete reinstall
[05:40] <johnP> Thanks folks.
[05:40] <Piet> Sagaci: to create the new users and to add them to the groups your user belongs to, you can just use the adduser command
[05:40] <Madpilot> johnP, this channel is logged
[05:41] <bostwick2> could it be that I am using the wrong wireless drivers for my card? I used the same .exe I used for windows but it looks different than when I first installed it on my old winxp
[05:41] <dyess002> i'm trying to find your message, It comes up and then dissapears
[05:41] <Piet> Sagaci: to determine the groups you are in, run: groups
[05:41] <johnP> just like in mirc i should be able to just save the logfile then?
[05:41] <azfira> /daiz
[05:41] <azfira> Kendari
[05:41] <Decepticon> which file should i copy from /usr/share/zoneinfo/ if i want my time to be 12:40am ... i tried to copy /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST to /etc/localtime but i am getting 11:40am, off by 1 hour. help please
[05:42] <acfrazier> I really messed up this time. So I upgraded from ext3 to ext4 using the gparted livecd, i figure all is good, right. I go to mount the ext4 filesystem and it gives me an invalid type. I think oh man, I'm screwed so I reboot and it boots fine with the exception of some gnome errors. So I modified the fstab and changed menu.lst to my liking and I got to where
[05:42] <sysop> hello all
[05:42] <Flannel> Decepticon: EST vs EDT?  You're likely in EDT right now.
[05:42] <Sagaci> Piet: thanks
[05:42] <acfrazier> I am. Grub just boots to a grub > prompt, and I can't boot linux
[05:43] <Piet> Decepticon: see www.timeanddate.com
[05:43] <Piet> Decepticon: but you should create a symbolic link there, not copy the file
[05:43] <Piet> Sagaci: welcome.
[05:43] <Decepticon> ah ok
[05:43] <Decepticon> it seems to be EST5EDT
[05:43] <bostwick2> it puts the lotion on the hard drive
[05:44] <bostwick2> or else it gets reformatted
[05:44] <Decepticon> its /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT
[05:44] <Vesayth> I've got a simple question about using a samba server. I have 3 computers - a windows box, a ubuntu 64 bit box, and a laptop with ubuntu 32 bit. Both ubuntu versions are 8.10. The 64 bit ubuntu box acts as my web server and samba file server. If i use the machine's network host name (phoenix) by typing //phoenix on the windows box, it goes to the web page, but if I put in the local ip of it instead, it won't find it. However, on the laptop it
[05:44] <Vesayth> Sorry I said it's for samba but it's for both samba and web
[05:44] <Decepticon> Vesayth you got cut off
[05:44] <bk> how do i start openvpn
[05:44] <bk> and where are the files located?
[05:45] <Vesayth> Oh, where did it cut out?
[05:45] <acfrazier> I really messed up this time. So I upgraded from ext3 to ext4 using the gparted livecd, i figure all is good, right. I go to mount the ext4 filesystem and it gives me an invalid type. I think oh man, I'm screwed so I reboot and it boots fine with the exception of some gnome errors. So I modified the fstab and changed menu.lst to my liking and I got to where
[05:45] <Decepticon> However, on the laptop it
[05:45] <acfrazier> I am. Grub just boots to a grub > prompt, and I can't boot linux
[05:45] <Decepticon> Vesayth However, on the laptop it
[05:45] <Vesayth> However, on the laptop it's the completely reverse of that. I would like to use the host name just as a standard for the home (because other people can't remember ip addresses). Does anyone know what is going wonky with this or can point me to the right place? I'm not exactly sure what to google for.
[05:45] <Piet> acfrazier: apparently when you edited menu.lst to your liking, it was not to the liking of grub
[05:45] <bostwick2> IT PUTS THE LOTION ON THE HARD DRIVE, OR ELSE IT GETS REFORMATTED AGAIN
[05:45] <bostwick2> :|
[05:45] <bk> and where are the files located?
[05:45] <bk> how do i start openvpn
[05:46] <bostwick2> linux is driving me nuts, ill just call my buddy and let him deal with installing my drivers
[05:46] <acfrazier> Piet: but I can't fix it, cause I can't boot the Jaunty liveCD, but that's a whole nother issue, which is why I was using the parted liveCD.
[05:46] <Piet> acfrazier: then use the parted live cd again to fix it
[05:47] <acfrazier> Piet: I can't, if I can't mount my ext4 partition to fix it, it gives me an invalid filesystem type, when the livecd indeed supports ext4
[05:47] <Oleander> question: can u install windows font on ubntu?
[05:47] <jimisrvrox> hey has anybody figured out how to be able to watch the abc.com full episodes? went to the forums and basically nothing is really working...sure ive managed to find it elsewhere but im sure the abc stream is probably the best quality
[05:47] <Vesayth> I apologize: on the windows box the IP address does work. I just forgot the // before it. It however still does not recognize //phoenix on the laptop
[05:48] <Piet> acfrazier: try to revert your changes to menu.lst, then reboot and see if it helps
[05:48] <Piet> acfrazier: depending on the file editor you used, a backup copy of menu.lst may have been automatically created when you edited it.
[05:48] <Sagaci> i see that APTonCD is quite outdated to this point, is there a newer program that saves all packages onto usb or cd for installation for later?
[05:48] <Flannel> Sagaci: How is AptonCD outdated
[05:49] <Sagaci> it says is only works for eft, fiesty and dapper
[05:49] <Flannel> Sagaci: Hmm, Where's it say that?
[05:49] <acfrazier> Piet: when I go to mount it using the parted liveCD to correct the issue, I get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'"
[05:49] <Flannel> Sagaci: As far as I know, there's nothing version specific about it, so it should work just fine.
[05:49] <jony12345676789> hey i've just obtained a very old desktop computer petium 2 350mhz 18gb some very old graphic hard and 128mb of ram and obiously ubuntu desktop doesn't meet the requirements.  So i am hoping some can suggest something that will run a desktop enviroment(i dnt mind which) while being as light on the system as posible. cheers and btw i use ubuntu on my normal computer
[05:49] <Sagaci> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/index.html
[05:50] <Severian> The AptonCD FAQ says support is up to Feisty.
[05:50] <Sagaci> i'll try it later
[05:50] <Piet> acfrazier: so apparently the parted live cd does not support ext4 mounting
[05:50] <Piet> acfrazier: you'll need to find a live cd that does.
[05:51] <Flannel> Sagaci: That's just the website being outdated, looks like.
[05:51] <Sagaci> i've have to clean install ubuntu 3 times since i got it. i love the distro but the only annoying thing about clean install is that i have to d/l all the pkgs again, but this should alleviate the problem
[05:51] <acfrazier> Piet: Well, I don't know any other liveCD other than Ubuntu, and parted. I know Debian won't have support for it until at least the next major release, so I'm up a creek with no paddle here.
[05:51] <Severian> jony12345676789, What do you mean old?  I use slower machines than that.   I suggest crunchbang.  It is a customized ubuntu distro that does very nicely on machines in that range.
[05:51] <Piet> acfrazier: why does the ubuntu live cd not work for you?
[05:52] <Rafael> how can i see/check the size of the boot area
[05:52] <acfrazier> Piet: It repeatedly tries to mount the filesystem then drops to busybox. Only on USB, CD works fine, but my DVD drive is failing so I get I/O errors, and am forced to use USB
[05:52] <Severian> Rafael,   df
[05:52] <Piet> acfrazier: system rescue cd was just recently released, it might support ext4
[05:52] <losher> Sagaci: packages go into /var/cache/apt/archives. In theory, you should be able to burn those files to a DVD and then bring them back again whenever you want...
[05:52] <jony12345676789> -Severian ok a ditro that will run nicly with a machine with those specs
[05:53] <Rafael> severian: i am newby..do i write "df", and that is?
[05:53] <Severian> jony12345676789, like I said, crunchbang will run nicely.
[05:53] <Severian> Rafael,   go to a terminal prompt and type the command    df
[05:53] <IcemanV9> Rafael: df -h will give you a nice readable stat
[05:53] <jony12345676789> thx  ( you people are all so nice ) hehe its running win98 right nw i will soon fix that heh
[05:54] <Sagaci> losher: where's all the other packages? scattered around ie. ubuntu-restricted-extras, cups, etcetra
[05:54] <Rafael> severian: thanks
[05:55] <mogus> Best disk usage visualization for Gnome ?
[05:55] <Piet> acfrazier: http://www.sysresccd.org/news/2009/05/12/systemrescuecd-120-released/ says this comes with 2.6.29, so it should support ext4
[05:55] <Severian> Rafael, if you have a separate partition for /boot, it will show up there and you can see how much space is free.  If you don't see /boot, then /boot is part of the / partition and that will show you how much space you have.
[05:55] <jony12345676789> severian - will this do a harddrive install?
[05:55] <losher> Sagaci: as far as I know, any/all downloaded packages go into /var/cache/apt/archives before being applied, and they stay there...
[05:56] <Severian> jony12345676789, Yes
[05:56] <Piet> mogus: boabab
[05:56] <jony12345676789> cool does it need internet for the install?
[05:56] <Piet> baobab even
[05:56] <mogus> Piet:thanks!
[05:56] <Severian> jony12345676789, in fact I am installing it on a virtual machine at the moment.
[05:56] <Sagaci> losher: nope, i've only got about 22 there
[05:56] <Sagaci> losher: 1758 installed according to synatpic
[05:56] <losher> Sagaci: er, you're doing network installs?
[05:56] <Sagaci> synaptic*
[05:57] <Sagaci> no
[05:57] <Rafael> Severian: thanks i got it...i have 4 diferent software raid: bootis on raid 1, swap is on raid 1, system is on raid 5 and home is on raid 5
[05:57] <mogus> Piet: Is there a foldersize-like plugin for Gnome?
[05:57] <jony12345676789> si what package do i get?
[05:57] <Severian> jony12345676789, Need?  Well, it will install without the internet, but it won't be able to get updated packages.  So, do it that way if you must.
[05:58] <Sagaci> oh I see, that's just deb packages, is there any way to include ALL packages via synaptic
[05:58] <losher> Sagaci: then unless something has changed, it either comes from the install medium or it gets downloaded and put in /var/cache...
[05:58] <aldin> hi, why i cant login to gtalk with pidgin on ubuntu 9.04, it keeps logigng and logging...
[05:58] <[OF]fabzor3> hey i have an nvidia card, running ubuntu but i cant set a 75hz refresh rate
[05:58] <Severian> jony12345676789,  http://crunchbang.net/pub/linux/crunchbang-8.10.02.i386.iso
[05:58] <[OF]fabzor3> any idea? is this a bug?
[05:59] <Piet> mogus: there are extensions for nautilus, but i don't know whether there is one to display the total size of directories and their children in a list.
[05:59] <mogus> Piet: in addition to fsview (KDE) i found a neat ncurses frontend for du (du -h) called ncdu
[05:59] <mogus> Piet: thanks
[05:59] <losher> Sagaci: not sure what you mean. All packages are deb packages...
[05:59] <Piet> mogus: if i need this information i usually right-click a directory and select properties or use du -sch on a terminal
[06:00] <Sagaci> losher: i have ubuntu restricted extras, but it's not listed there
[06:00] <jimisrvrox> hey guys how can I make it to where I can force firefox to use atleast 60-70% of my avaliable memory bc its eating up like 90 cpu and only 30 mem...
[06:00] <mogus> Piet: Yes, but thats so... Microsoft. I imagine Ubuntu/Debian/Linux can do better :)
[06:00] <AaronMT> check your extensions
[06:00] <acfrazier> Sagaci: that's probably because it's a metapackage
[06:00] <losher> Sagaci: so try an experiment. Download something from restricted & after install, see if it's in /var/cache/apt/archives...
[06:01] <Sagaci> is it possible to save them?
[06:01] <Rafael> quit
[06:01] <jony12345676789> ok peoples im gonna reboot then boot into ubuntu then download cruchbang linux but befour that will i be able to use stuff like apt-get (once i got internet up) and just typical things you would find in ubuntu and also install applications?
[06:02] <mogus> Piet: I usually use df -h for the basic overall drive usage - nice and quick
[06:02] <mogus> du -sch works nicely to get a general summary
[06:03] <mogus> Piet: thanks
[06:04] <jony12345676789> bye and thx every1
[06:04] <Piet> mogus: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439900
[06:04] <Sagaci> it worked, this is going to take some thinking and sorting, VLC player is installed but not listed there
[06:05] <Brack10> Can I virtualbox my vista partition safely or should I not touch that with a 10 foot pole?
[06:05] <mogus> Piet: Baobab is indeed nice. Trick apparently is to use the "Folder" view to look at mounted drives.
[06:06] <mobi-sheep> Brack10: You should try Virtualbox IRC channel / forum for that one.
[06:06] <Brack10> :(
[06:06] <chaorain> is there a way to get the size of a dir including recursive?
[06:07] <sacarlson> Brack10: if you mean would windows run in virtualbox yes.  but if you plan to take windows that it already installed and running on a partition I don't think so.
[06:07] <Madpilot> chaorain, Disc Usage Analyser (also known as baobab)
[06:07] <Brack10> sacarlson: hardware profiles?
[06:07] <losher> Sagaci: if it was installed off the DVD, it won't be there. But that's ok, because next time you install it will just come from the DVD again.
[06:07] <stew> chaorain: du -hs /path/to/dir
[06:07] <Severian> chaorain,   du -h
[06:08] <chaorain> thanks
[06:08] <sacarlson> Brack10: I'm not sure but virtualbox sets up alot of stuff around the target operating system at install
[06:08] <Sagaci> losher: unfortunately not, it was upgraded from 8.10 and installed via live cd 8.10
[06:08] <mogus> Piet: the devs apparently think that basic info like calculating the size of a folder is "intrusive".
[06:09] <mogus> Piet: basic functionality that should appear in the file manager folder detail size pane IMHO
[06:09] <sacarlson> Brack10: in some strange file structure that simulates partitions I think.
[06:09] <Piet> mogus: the problem is it slows the file manager down remarkably and causes lots of I/O
[06:09] <turbo> I know this is the wrong place but maybe you can help me find an answer because linuxmint is based on ubuntu and the support isint huge
[06:09] <Brack10> what about vmware?
[06:10] <Brack10> can it do it?
[06:10] <Brack10> that would be so cool
[06:10] <turbo>  im using  linuxmint latest release. trying to use virtual box ose and when I try to start my system it fails with two pop ups. one of them is VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (rc=-1908)
[06:10] <sacarlson> Brack10: again it will run just don't expect to move what is already installed.
[06:11] <Brack10> sacarlson: what I really want is the ability to run it in a VM on linux AND boot to it
[06:11] <losher> Sagaci: well make up your mind. You said "the only annoying thing about clean install is that i have to d/l all the pkgs again".
[06:11] <Brack10> :(
[06:11] <mogus> Piet: not if they do it right, as foldersize does, which is calculate in the background. File sizes don't change every second, and in any case people aren't looking usally for exact data, just the 'which of my folders do i need to move to my backup drive before my system drive gets maxed out,' sort of thing
[06:11] <IcemanV9> Brack10: ask in #vbox at freenode.net .. or search ubuntu/virtualbox forum(s)
[06:11] <Severian> Brack10, Either VMWare, or VirtualBox can run VMs of Windows XP.  VirtualBox needs a CPY with Hardware Virtualization.  To move your current computer to a VM, look for a p2v tool.  That is the generic name of the tools  Physical 2 Virtual.
[06:11] <Guest65107> what directory id firefox in once installed
[06:12] <sacarlson> Brack10: I'm sure that can be done just have a script that runs at boot or when you login to your account and have it start vmware
[06:12] <timothy> Hello can someone help me
[06:12] <mogus> Piet: AFAIK size is calculated with most current file systems, and reading is just a matter of keeping a cache current with what is being written
[06:12] <Brack10> Severian: thank you, that was quite helpful
[06:12] <Piet> mogus: yeah i guess youre right there
[06:12] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: type in the terminal: which firefox
[06:12] <Sagaci> losher: well now the annoying thing is to figure out how to retrieve all the pkgs
[06:13] <sacarlson> I use virtualbox with windows xp in it
[06:13] <timothy> I have ubuntu 9.04 installed on my system but it seems to oveload my cpu
[06:13] <Guest65107> ok
[06:13] <Severian> timothy, time to look for a faster computer, it sounds like.
[06:13] <timothy> it is a quad
[06:13] <timothy> 4 CPU
[06:13] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: usually in /usr/bin directory
[06:14] <losher> Sagaci: it might help if you told us what your ultimate goal actually is.
[06:14] <AmyRose> Does Gwget even work at all? I can't get that thing to download anything.
[06:14] <Severian> timothy, No matter what it is, if you are overloading it with a modest OS like Ubuntu, then it is time to look for an upgrade.
[06:14] <Guest65107> thanxx
[06:14] <Wolvez> does anybody knows what is the package for (dos2unix) ubuntu 9.04
[06:14] <AmyRose> and I'm on Jaunty
[06:15] <timothy> the computer is not that old
[06:15] <Severian> Wolvez, did you try    man dos2unix
[06:15] <Piet> Wolvez: apt-file and http://packages.ubuntu.com could tell
[06:15] <ttmrichter> How do I get X to stop forcing a resolution of 800x600 when it can't ID the monitor that's attached?  Version is 8.10.
[06:15] <losher> timothy: doesn't sound right. A quad usually has lots of cpu to spare. Why exactly do you think your 'cpu is overloaded'?
[06:15] <Piet> Wolvez: i think it's dosutils or mtools or the like
[06:15] <Wolvez> thankks
[06:16] <Severian> ttmrichter, put stuff in xorg.conf to define your monitor and video card
[06:16] <Sagaci> losher: my gui screwed up on 3 separate occasions and i found it easier just to clean reinstall, i'd like to be able to install these pkgs off a cd/dvd in the event of a clean install rather than having to wait hours to download and configure each time
[06:16] <dtchen> Wolvez: tofrodos
[06:16] <ttmrichter> Severian: it ignores that.
[06:16] <IcemanV9> Wolvez: use 'aptitude search' to look for a package :)
[06:16] <ttmrichter> I have modelines (generated by cvt) and it just ignores them.
[06:17] <timothy> it gets slugish and I check the system monitor and it says two of them are running close to 100 % but then I re boot the computer and its normal again
[06:17] <Wolvez> yes.. I think it was mtools.. but now is tofrodos >)
[06:17] <Severian> ttmrichter, No, it doesn't  I have patched several 9.04 systems that way.
[06:17] <Wolvez> installed :)
[06:17] <IcemanV9> timothy: use top or htop to look for what is hogging the cpu
[06:17] <losher> timothy: next time it happens, you need to run 'top' and see what is taking up all that cpu.
[06:18] <Piet> AmyRose: i never used gwget, i just open a terminal window and wget there. if you dislike this, look into aria2c instead, there are good GUIs for it.
[06:18] <IcemanV9> timothy: well. you're using system monitor .. what is hogging the cpu, then? do u remember?
[06:18] <ttmrichter> Severian: seriously, it ignores them.  This following line is IGNORED.  It is not reacted to.  It is not showing up in any way shape or form: Modeline "1024x768_60.00"   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
[06:18] <ttmrichter> It doesn't work.
[06:18] <timothy> how do i run top or htop
[06:18] <losher> Sagaci: sounds like what you really need is just a full backup of a cleanly installed system
[06:18] <Piet> AmyRose: there are also good download managers which integrate with firefox in case you use that
[06:18] <Severian> ttmrichter, you need more than that
[06:19] <IcemanV9> timothy: open the terminal and type top or htop
[06:19] <ttmrichter> Severian: What do I need then?  The docs are very not-complete and not-clear.
[06:19] <timothy> ok thanks
[06:19] <Severian> ttmrichter, Give me a moment and I'll be back with what I setup.  It is on a remote machine.
[06:19] <prodigel> Is there a channel for easy peasy?
[06:20] <Wolvez> thank you guys.!
[06:20] <Wolvez> bye
[06:21] <Piet> ttmrichter: ModeLine is a subordinate command, it must be enclosed in a subsection
[06:21] <losher> timothy: run top now, so you'll have an idea what a normal 'top' looks like, then you can run it again when your computer gets sluggish & come back & tell us what's hogging the cpu.
[06:21] <Piet> ttmrichter: make sure you have it that way
[06:21] <ttmrichter> Piet: I know this.  It was in the monitor block.
[06:21] <timothy> ok sounds good I got Htop running now
[06:21] <losher> ttmrichter: no diagnostics in the X log?
[06:22] <prodigel> I ran easy peasy on someones eee pc and wireless doesn't work. I was curios if atheros ar5bxb63 chipset works on ubuntu
[06:22] <ttmrichter> losher: Where is the X log?
[06:22] <IcemanV9> timothy: is it running on all cpu or just two?
[06:22] <timothy> hey it see,s Firfox is taking up a lot of the cpu
[06:22] <losher> ttmrichter: usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log or some such...
[06:22] <mogus> I recently installed U 9.4 , and the user switcher just died a few days ago. Wont let me re-add to the panel. Says "Error  -"User Switcher" has quit unexpectedly - If you reload a panel object, it will automatically be added back to the panel."
[06:23] <simoncpu> hello
[06:23] <timothy> its running on all 4
[06:23] <Guest65107> firefox is in  /usr/bin but i get error when trying to launch it from menu--error=could not launch firefox failed to execute child process,firefox no such file or diretory
[06:23] <simoncpu> how do i prevent my windows from being dragged to the next desktop?
[06:23] <ttmrichter> losher: I'll check it when I get on the machine this evening.  What am I looking for?
[06:23] <mogus> simoncpu: if you don't need extra desktops, you can just set the number of desktops to one
[06:24] <IcemanV9> timothy: that's normal for firefox using lots of cpu once in a while during surfing the 'net
[06:24] <Piet> prodigel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[06:24] <sacarlson> prodigel: I have easy-peasy installed on my eee pc and I installed the drivers direct from madwifi.  But I think on easy-peasy it worked out of the box
[06:24] <timothy> well right now Im streaming something but that shouldnt take up all the resources
[06:24] <simoncpu> mogus: i need the extra desktops, but my windows get dragged to the next one whenever i accidentally drag them off-screen
[06:25] <prodigel> sacarlson, live cd had a wlan device but didn't detect any network.
[06:25] <losher> ttmrichter: dunno, I'm guessing something that mentions the mode line?
[06:25] <mogus> simoncpu: "accidentally?" are you on KDE?
[06:25] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: in the terminal, type pkill firefox
[06:25] <ttmrichter> losher: OK, I'll scan it this evening and see what I can see.
[06:25] <simoncpu> mogus: i am on the default gnome
[06:25] <losher> ttmrichter: my first guess is you have a syntax error on the line, which is why it's being ignored
[06:25] <mogus> hm.
[06:25] <timothy> it is running arround 80 to 95 %
[06:25] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: then try to launch Firefox again
[06:25] <sacarlson> prodigel: the madwifi driver is way better
[06:25] <ttmrichter> losher: It's a straight cut-and-paste from cvt, that line.
[06:25] <Guest65107> ok
[06:25] <mogus> simoncpu: are you using a switcher helper like ... forgot the name
[06:26] <turbo>  im using  linuxmint latest release. trying to use virtual box ose and when I try to start my system it fails with two pop ups. one of them is VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (rc=-1908)
[06:26] <simoncpu> mogus: i dunno... i've just installed 9.04
[06:26] <mogus> simoncpu: hm
[06:26] <prodigel> sacarlson, I'm sure about it, just that it's not mine, and probably the owner wouldn't succeed in reinstalling madwifi after kernel updates
[06:26] <turbo> i know this is the wrong support
[06:26] <mogus> simoncpu: dunno. how often does this happen?
[06:27] <simoncpu> mogus: every time... it's not a bug, really
[06:27] <losher> ttmrichter: weirder things have happened....
[06:27] <simoncpu> i just want to turn it off :)
[06:27] <sacarlson> prodigel: hope by the next kernel update they will have working drivers then.
[06:28] <mogus> simoncpu: well mine does not do that. but then Ive got an ancient graphics card atmoment and i cant even run level two graphics effects
[06:28] <mogus> simoncpu: maybe you can try turning your effects down a level?
[06:28] <IcemanV9> turbo: if i could recall, i think you need to change the permission of /dev/something or .... i don't remember other one. sorry
[06:28] <simoncpu> mogus: but i want the effects too :)
[06:28] <Guest65107> pkill did'nt work ether any other ideald
[06:28] <losher> timothy: does restarting firefox fix it?
[06:29] <Guest65107> no
[06:29] <simoncpu> omfg. what happened to virtualbox? where did my vms go?
[06:29] <simoncpu> brb
[06:29] <mogus> simoncpu: i understand. but try and turn them off for a bit to see if that changes the issue.
[06:29] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: try to launch firefox in your terminal and see what the error says
[06:29] <Piet> turbo: you'Re lacking the virtualbox kernel modules
[06:30] <IcemanV9> turbo: that's it. what Piet just said.
[06:30] <Piet> turbo: start a package manager and search for anything that contains 'virtualbox' or 'vbox', you should find somethink like linux-modules...
[06:31] <Severian> ttmrichter, Here is an example of one of my Jaunty machines.  It has a simple xorg.conf file and comes up in 1024 x 768.   http://pastebin.com/f18c90614
[06:31] <Guest65107> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  but i judt installed it in synaptic
[06:31] <losher> Severian: nice one!
[06:31] <chaorain> Is there a way to tell my comp to turn off in 1 hr? (9.04)
[06:31] <Piet> turbo: if that doesn't exist, then try this instead: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install module-assitant && m-a a-i virtualbox
[06:32] <jemark> turbo: install the linux-headers and unstall the old vbox and then install the new version
[06:32] <Piet> chaorain: sudo shutdown -r 1h
[06:32] <Severian> chaorain, There are several ways.  Setup a cron job to do   shutdown -h now
[06:32] <chaorain> Piet, ty
[06:32] <Severian> Piet's way would be easier.   chaorain
[06:32] <Piet> chaorain: oops, it's shutdown -h, not -r
[06:33] <ttmrichter> Severian: I'll give that a shot tonight as well.  Thanks.
[06:33] <floatboat> anyone here using fglrx? does your terminals flash really slowly whenever a new line is printed (updates very slowly?) -- but everything else like firefox works fine
[06:33] <Piet> chaorain: so: sudo shutdown -h 1h
[06:33] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: well it said it is not. in the terminal, type sudo aptitude install firefox
[06:33] <chaorain> Piet, that was probably an important difference
[06:33] <patrick> hi
[06:33] <chaorain> piet, thanks
[06:34] <simoncpu> hello
[06:34] <ttmrichter> Piet, Severian: Thanks for the assistance.  Hopefully tonight I can stop using the Windows half of that presentation machine.  :)
[06:34] <simoncpu> do you guys know the path where virtualbox installs its guest os?
[06:34] <Guest65107> ok will do thanx a million
[06:34] <Piet> chaorain: -r would just reboot
[06:34] <patrick> hi!
[06:34] <simoncpu> virtualbox seems to have been mysteriously deleted from our system
[06:34] <ttmrichter> simoncpu: VirtualBox puts all its stuff under ~/.VirtualBox, I think.
[06:35] <simoncpu> oki
[06:35] <simoncpu> oh cool, the files are still there
[06:35] <felixsulla> Can you move to another desktop from the kb?
[06:35] <Severian> simoncpu, ~/.VirtualBox/HardDisks
[06:35] <simoncpu> i wonder what happend to VirtualBox?
[06:35]  * simoncpu checks out the log files for clues
[06:35] <lstarnes> felixsulla: ctrl+alt+left-arrow and ctrl+alt+right-arror
[06:35] <IcemanV9> simoncpu: check log files
[06:35] <lstarnes> *arrow
[06:35] <ttmrichter> simoncpu: It got a better offer from Oracle.  :D
[06:35] <felixsulla> lstarnes: Thankyou
[06:35] <simoncpu> lol
[06:36] <Flake> Woo!
[06:36] <simoncpu> btw, can vmware read virtualbox files?
[06:36] <ttmrichter> simoncpu: Not thus far, I don't think.  There is work on standardizing virtual machine file formats though.
[06:36] <Severian> simoncpu, It sounds like a local problem.  I am not seeing reports of it mysteriously disappearing on machines around the world.  I am running it on 3 machines here.
[06:36] <patrick__> hoy!
[06:36] <patrick__> hahaha
[06:36] <patrick__> lolololololololololololololol
[06:37] <Severian> ttmrichter, That work is done.  VirtualBox 2.2 uses the standard OVF
[06:37] <patrick__> ablublublublublu
[06:37] <ttmrichter> Severian: Oh, really?  Cool!
[06:37] <simoncpu> i only installed wine last night, hoping that it would run vmware infrastructure client
[06:37] <simoncpu> it didn't run, so i slept
[06:37] <simoncpu> when i woke up, virtualbox was gone
[06:37] <losher> simoncpu: google says vmware can read *converted* virtualbox files. AYOR...
[06:37] <floatboat> simoncpu: hackers
[06:37] <patrick__> hahaha
[06:37] <floatboat> losher: what's AYOR?
[06:37] <patrick__> lololololololol
[06:37] <floatboat> will someone kick patrick for being a freaking degenerate?
[06:38] <patrick__> noob
[06:38] <losher> Sorry, AYOR = At Your Own Risk
[06:38] <simoncpu> it means that i have to reinstall virtualbox to export virtualbox files?
[06:38] <ttmrichter> floatboat: Most IRC clients have the ability to easily add ignore clauses.
[06:38] <simoncpu> uhm....
[06:38] <patrick__> this is cool
[06:38] <knoxville> why do I get permission denied when trying to chmod an SMBFS as root?
[06:38] <patrick__> i dont know
[06:38] <lstarnes> ttmrichter: that doesn't make being annoying right though
[06:39] <ttmrichter> lstarnes: Oh, I quite agree.  But it deals with the immediate symptoms quite handily.
[06:39] <patrick__> oh yeah
[06:39] <patrick__> ?
[06:39] <Severian> knoxville, The samba server on the other side is rejecting you chmod.
[06:39]  * ttmrichter has a sizable ignore file.
[06:39] <knoxville> Severian, its an external HDD with an ethernet adapter in NTFS
[06:39] <patrick__> ohhh....
[06:39] <losher> ttmrichter: size isn't everything you know...
[06:40] <floatboat> ttmrichter: i'm concerned more for your sanity - mine is bullitproof
[06:40] <Severian> knoxville, OK
[06:40] <sacarlson> knoxville: I guess the partition SMBFS is mounted read only?
[06:40] <ttmrichter> floatboat: I have no sanity left.  No worries here.  :D
[06:40] <Piet> losher: but sizable is everything
[06:40] <knoxville> I ran this "sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/public/ /nfs/" how would I make that RW?
[06:40] <losher> Piet: *re*sizeable is everything...
[06:41] <Piet> right :)
[06:41] <Severian> knoxville, You may not be able to.  It depends on the server at <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <Piet> knoxville: mount -o remount,rw /nfs
[06:41] <knoxville> Piet, tried it but still no go
[06:41] <Guest65107> did apt-get install-->Reading state information... Done
[06:41] <Guest65107> firefox is already the newest version
[06:42] <sacarlson> knoxville: maybe on the server side at your <IP_ADDRESS>/public
[06:42] <Piet> knoxville: so what Severian said applies
[06:42] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: then fire it up. ;-)
[06:42] <MaT-dg> when I place a link to /media/Data in the public folder, will the Data folder be public accessible?
[06:42] <Guest65107> still wont launch
[06:43] <losher> knoxville: remote smb file servers aren't usually much impressed by being root on a Unix box
[06:43] <simoncpu> aha
[06:43] <simoncpu> if i comment out a line in /etc/apt/sources.list,
[06:43] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: ?? in the terminal, type rehash .... then try to launch again.
[06:43] <simoncpu> are the packages automatically deleted?
[06:43] <simoncpu> weird...
[06:44] <Severian> simoncpu, No
[06:44] <Guest65107> ok
[06:44] <tapspat> Hey guys, PMTU doesnt seem to working with me !!!!
[06:44] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: oh. is there an error message when you tried to launch?
[06:44] <tapspat>  eventhough I am disabling PMTU Discovery, Client and Server are broadcasting their MSS s and Fragmentation is not happening at all !!!
[06:44] <mohanohi> hi..
[06:44] <mohanohi> I am using ubuntu studio 8.10
[06:44] <floatboat> goodnight everyone! ttmrichter take care! patrick__ fuck yourself.
[06:44] <simoncpu> ok, i've not reinstalled virtualbox
[06:44] <Guest65107> yes
[06:45] <simoncpu> there it goes again... the items in the "System Tools" menu doesn't show up
[06:45] <mohanohi> whenever i playback something in totem player which is recorded in audacity it gives some noise..
[06:45]  * simoncpu reboots the box
[06:45] <mohanohi> which doesn't show up in audacity
[06:45] <Severian> simoncpu, Were you uning the open source edition or the personal use version?
[06:45] <simoncpu> Severian: personal use
[06:45] <tapspat> Can someone suggest me a channel for questions regarding TCP/IP !!!!
[06:45] <lstarnes> tapspat: maybe ##networking
[06:46] <mohanohi> hmmm... anybody
[06:46] <mohanohi> ?
[06:46] <tapspat> lstarnes : Thanks..... All are sleeping in that room............. ehhhhhhhhhhh !!!!
[06:46] <Severian> simoncpu, as long as you are reinstalling, go to virtualbox,org and get version 2.2  It has some nice improvements.  The biggest one to me is OVF support.
[06:47] <lstarnes> tapspat: you need to be patient.  someone will answer you eventuallty
[06:47] <simoncpu> tapspat: i know this is a linux channel, but try ##netbsd and ##freebsd
[06:47] <mohanohi> i am using AUDIOBOX USB professional device..
[06:47] <lstarnes> *eventually
[06:47] <simoncpu> tada! the icons now appear after i rebooted the box
[06:47] <simoncpu> this sucks
[06:47] <losher> mohanohi: first find out if the noise is actually recorded in the file. I suggest trying a 3rd player, e.g. mplayer
[06:48] <mohanohi> If it was recorded then why doesn't audacity play it? it plays pure..
[06:48] <IcemanV9> also, vbox 2.2 does have bridged networking as well! a big PLUS.
[06:48] <losher> mohanohi: if I knew the answer to that I wouldn't be suggesting a 3rd player
[06:48] <Guest65107> is there a way to wipe all firefox then reinstall it useing apt-get
[06:48] <Piet> tapspat: i'd suggest asking in gentoo or even ##security
[06:49] <mohanohi> shall i paste the sample file.. it may play good in other system..
[06:49] <mohanohi> not in mine..
[06:49] <simoncpu> virtualbox doesn't support amd64 guests
[06:49] <IcemanV9> Guest65107: sudo aptitude purge firefox
[06:49] <simoncpu> ok there it goes again
[06:49] <Guest65107> ok thanxx
[06:49] <lstarnes> simoncpu: I think it does on 64-bit hosts
[06:49] <mohanohi> i think i have done something like upgrading some lib files or something!!
[06:49] <simoncpu> my monitor suddenly goes dark...
[06:49] <wildc4rd__> any idea where on the VM server machine filesystem that the client machine files/OS info are kept (Virtualbox on Gnome)
[06:49] <simoncpu> ubuntu 9.04 seems to activate the monitor's power saving feature
[06:49] <simoncpu> i have to turn it off and on again
[06:50] <lstarnes> wildc4rd__: possibly ~/.vbox or a similar directory
[06:50] <simoncpu> lstarnes: i'm using an amd64 host =)
[06:50] <lstarnes> simoncpu: that's odd
[06:50] <IcemanV9> ~/.VirtualBox
[06:50] <simoncpu> i'm not sure with other OSes, but it doen's turn freebsd amd64
[06:50] <simoncpu> *doesn't
[06:50] <Severian> simoncpu, I think it does, but you have to have an amd64 host.  Reading the change log for version 2.2 tells me this is true.
[06:50] <quibbler> Guest65107-> also rename ~/.mozilla  to ~./.mozilla.old
[06:51] <lstarnes> wildc4rd__: according to IcemanV9 it is ~/.VirtualBox
[06:51] <simoncpu> i'm using v 2.2.2r46594
[06:51] <wildc4rd__> cheers
[06:51] <felixsulla> Is there a way to change (lower) the opacity of the giant big black notices in the top right corner (like when a print job finishes) in 9.04?
[06:52] <kaltwasser> wow its been years since I have been in a chat room
[06:52] <eseven73> !welcome | kaltwasser
[06:53] <losher> kaltwasser: welcome back to the 1970s
[06:53] <felixsulla> kaltwasser: on IRC?
[06:53] <Gamarok__>  guys how can i make a terminal command run at startup in kubuntu
[06:53] <eseven73> losher, lmao
[06:53] <Piet> kaltwasser: hello spud
[06:54] <losher> I can't help thinking there has to be a better way than this to offer/get support....
[06:54] <tapspat> thanks Piet, simoncpu, lstarnes
[06:54] <felixsulla> losher: Suggestions?
[06:54] <Neontiger> When you connect to an IMAP server to download your mail does it leave a copy?
[06:54] <IcemanV9> Gamarok__: did you try to ask in #kubuntu ?
[06:55] <Flannel> Neontiger: Yes.
[06:56] <Piet> Neontiger: usually you only download the emails' headers, not the emails themselves until you really read them. but it's all configurable. mail usually remains on the server until you delete it.
[06:56] <losher> felixsulla: the ubuntu msg boards seem better, they're not real time though. Maybe a better irc client?
[06:56] <Daemonik> Is Xen available with Jaunty?
[06:56] <Neontiger> Awesome, thank you
[06:56] <felixsulla> losher: what IRC client are you using? XChat is my fafv
[06:57] <Guest65107>  thanxx for all the help, i be back later--tootahhloou all
[06:57] <Severian> Daemonik, Yes
[06:57] <IcemanV9> Daemonik: according to aptitude search, yes
[06:57] <losher> felixsulla: chatzilla right now, because it was there, and easy....
[06:57] <Severian> Daemonik, It looks like it is the client stuff for xen.
[06:57] <felixsulla> losher: Never used it.
[06:59] <losher> felixsulla: It's just a basic irc client. Is there something about Xchat that makes it particularly easy to support people? One problem with irc is the main channel is noisy, but if you go private, people can't join in & it doesn't go into the logs. That seems wasteful...
[07:00] <felixsulla> losher: I'm fairly certain you can make XChat record everything, even private chats if that's youre desire
[07:00] <hacker_kid> http://codepad.org/awJ9r79y thats the output i get when trying to ssh to a virtual machine, why does it hang after the identification files
[07:00] <burner> irssi rules!
[07:01] <eseven73> only thing I liked about irssi was /lastlog <search word here>
[07:01] <losher> felixsulla: well, I was more thinking about the same issues coming up over & over again.
[07:01] <Piet> Daemonik: i would think not for dom0, since there are no patches against this kernel version and the dom0 patches are not yet in linux mainline
[07:02] <Daemonik> Piet, I see.
[07:02] <felixsulla> losher:  What issues?
[07:02] <wombatunder> how do I use the command line to open a *list file for editing?
[07:02]  * burner likes screen -dR + irssi +- ssh/gnome-terminal :)
[07:02] <knoxville> nano *list
[07:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, nano filename
[07:02] <wombatunder> a *.list file
[07:02] <wombatunder> thank you
[07:03] <burner> wombatunder: you pick an editor to open it up with... nano is an easy one... "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" for example... or "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" for the gui
[07:03] <wombatunder> thank you jewfro-macabbi and burner
[07:03] <RHorse> burner do you like bitchx?
[07:04] <burner> RHorse: in 1999 I liked bitchx :)
[07:04] <msk82> Hey guys, I'm facing some "short write" errors, when my system running ALSA goes to a "partial" suspend (i.e. screen goes off). What should I suspect from?
[07:04] <wildc4rd__> how can I transfer files from a VB to its host machine?
[07:04] <RHorse> does irssi have many more features?
[07:04] <Piet> wildc4rd__: where VB=virtuel basic?
[07:04] <losher> felixsulla: there's at least 4 9.04 issues that seem to be faqs. Sound, flash, ext4, box left unusable after upgrade, sluggishness....
[07:04] <burner> wildc4rd__: Virtual Machine?  what's the virtualization software?  I typically just use samba network file sharing... you could use ssh... or sometimes Virtual Machine apps have their own sharing
[07:05] <Severian> wildc4rd__, I use a samba machine on my lan to move files back and forth between my virtual and physical machines.
[07:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wildc4rd__, scp would work also
[07:05] <wombatunder> in Nano, does "Write out"=save?
[07:05] <NandoMan> hello
[07:05] <IcemanV9> wildc4rd__: i used scp lots
[07:05] <lstarnes> wombatunder: yes
[07:05] <wombatunder> thank you
[07:05] <lstarnes> wombatunder: or save as
[07:05] <burner> wombatunder: yeppers... if you just exit, it will ask to save changes
[07:05] <felixsulla> losher: flash working okay for me in 9.04.. I havnt used ext4 (do you need it?), and mine isnt sluggish?
[07:06] <Severian> wildc4rd__, basically any method of transfering files over the network will work.
[07:06] <sacarlson>  wildc4rd__:  maybe with samba but I have used my usb flash drive at times
[07:06] <burner> Severian: what is the virtual machine?  windows?  use winscp in windows + ssh server on your ubuntu box
[07:06] <RHorse> winscp is awesome
[07:06] <burner> er... I meant to recommend that to wildc4rd__ I guess :)
[07:07] <RHorse> ;)
[07:07] <[T]ank> lots of windows talk for a linux room
[07:07] <wombatunder> I'm trying to install a mobile internet connectionand I need to have an existing internet connection to do so....
[07:07]  * burner has used winscp + wine in xubuntu before it had gigolo
[07:07] <losher> felixsulla: that wasn't really my point. And 'well it works for me' isn't even close to user support
[07:07] <Severian> burner, I have a variety of Linux virtual machines.  I am working on adding solaris and BSD.  I don't allow Windows on my network.   Samba is a better choice for me, but if scp works for you, then use it.
[07:08] <felixsulla> losher: Gotcha. Well, there is the ubuntu forums, this room which is very helpful, and the online documentation, and canonical I suppose
[07:08] <NandoMan> people: i want to remove the whitespaces in the filenames of a directory, i running "rename s/\s//g *" but it doesn't work!
[07:08] <burner> losher: I'm willing to address problems one at a time... but general bitching is no fun ;)
[07:08] <Severian> NandoMan, the command is      mv
[07:08] <burner> NandoMan: there is no rename... mv
[07:08] <RichiV> irc.hackthissite.org # help
[07:08] <RichiV> whoops
[07:09] <ryan_> yoy oy
[07:09] <IcemanV9> NandoMan: mv some_thing aNewName
[07:09] <blag> the ps3 eye should "just work" with 2.6.29, right?
[07:09] <wombatunder> what does it mean when "the following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" comes up when performing a "sudo apt-get update"?
[07:09] <NandoMan> but there is a rename in my ubuntu
[07:09] <NandoMan> :P
[07:09] <lstarnes> NandoMan: rename is an alias to mv
[07:09] <losher> felixsulla, burner: so we're back to where we started. Irc isn't a good support medium and there's apparently a couple of other options but really nothing better
[07:09] <NandoMan> oh i see
[07:09] <RHorse> wombatunder I wouldn't worry
[07:09] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, if you added a repo, import their signing key
[07:10] <felixsulla> losher: What are you expecting, exactly?
[07:10] <burner> NandoMan: holy crap, you're right :)  /me mans rename
[07:10] <ryan_> yo dawgs
[07:10] <ryan_> im sittin in DIA airport
[07:10] <burner> rename != mv
[07:10] <ryan_> anyone else chill here
[07:10] <wombatunder> jewfro_macabbi, how do I import their signing key?
[07:10] <NandoMan> so, the syntax is basically "rename perlexpresion files"
[07:10] <Severian> NandoMan, rename is a perl script that is good for renaming filenames with patterns.  For a basic rename, use   mv
[07:10] <losher> felixsulla, burner: sorry, I thought we were brainstorming to see if there was some better way to deliver ubuntu support....
[07:11] <jonathon_> anyone know how hard it is to setup an http mysql php and smpt servers in cruchbang linux?
[07:11] <NandoMan> Severian: i want to remove the whitespaces of all the files in a directory]\
[07:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, you can usually find instructions on the repo page, but it's gpg --keyserver keserver.address --recv keyid
[07:11] <felixsulla> losher: I guess I mean, what is your idea of ideal?
[07:11] <burner> losher: aww... maybe, i was only half paying attention... maybe the first step is to pay attention to provide better support :)
[07:11] <losher> burner: "bitching" and trying to "constructively critique a current process" can look remarkably similar
[07:12] <lstarnes> NandoMan: try this: for file in $(find DIRECTORY); do mv $file ${file// /}; done
[07:12] <Severian> NandoMan, How many files to rename?
[07:12] <NandoMan> a lot!
[07:12] <Flannel> losher: This isn't the place for it.  Try #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:12] <NandoMan> Severian: a lot
[07:12] <burner> losher: yours aren't so much support issues as they are bugs that should just be fixed and not even thought about :)
[07:12] <Reilithion> I have two screens.  Some full-screen applications will freeze the cursor in that screen, and prevent me from using applications in the other screen.  Is there a way for me to change this?
[07:12] <burner> NandoMan: have a gui?
[07:12] <losher> Flannel: fair enough.
[07:12] <lstarnes> NandoMan: or replace ${file// /} with ${file// /_} to replace whitespace with _'s
[07:13] <wombatunder> Jewfro-Macabbi: Sorry but I am a complete Linux Noob, where do I find  the repo page?
[07:13] <NandoMan> burner: yes i do
[07:13] <Severian> NandoMan, just be careful.  lstarnes command looked right.  But, I would still test it first.
[07:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, what repository did you add to your sources.list file?
[07:13] <burner> NandoMan: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/GPRename <--try that app :)
[07:13] <kliwon> hi, i get problem after upgrade from intrepid to jaunty.the NM not recognize my modem but it works great at intrepid.any idea ? thanks
[07:13] <wombatunder> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu hardy main
[07:13] <wombatunder>  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu hardy main
[07:13] <NandoMan> but souldn't the rename command work?
[07:14] <wombatunder> so those links would be the repo page?
[07:14] <sacarlson> wombatunder: I'm not sure I understand the question maybe you want to know how to install software?  try synaptic
[07:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, no I thought you added a third party repo
[07:14] <ryan_> synaptic is a great place to start
[07:14] <burner> NandoMan: probably... but i'm not savvy enough...
[07:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, is hardy your version? - try apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[07:14] <Severian> jonathon_  It is not too hard.  It is basically the same on crunchbang as on Ubuntu.  I'd google for   perfect lamp server.  Falco Timme wrote a series of articles on setting up servers like that.
[07:15] <wombatunder> jewfro-macabbi: yes I am using 8.06 which I believe is hardy
[07:15] <wombatunder> I tried apt-get update and got that error
[07:15] <burner> wombatunder: you're trying to use a mobile network connction as opposed to wifi?
[07:15] <wombatunder> yes
[07:15] <lstarnes> wombatunder: 8.04 is hardy
[07:15] <sacarlson> wombatunder: or if you want to custom you repo list edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, just try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade - it's not a huge error
[07:15] <dv_> someone with ipv6 please test if they can access http://tractrix.mooo.com/hello.txt
[07:15] <burner> wombatunder: go to 8.10, then to 9.04 :)  it's so much better at mobile devices
[07:16] <Severian> wombatunder,   There is a 8.04, which is Hardy
[07:16] <wombatunder> but the error was for the new repo I need
[07:16] <IcemanV9> NandoMan: create a temporary directory, copy a few files from the real to the temporary one. then test it with a few commands that some of us offers. see which one does work.
[07:16] <Jewfro-Macabbi> wombatunder, it will still download and install from that repo
[07:16] <jonathon_> but if u did 'sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin'(etc) it will work the same as ubuntu does?
[07:16] <wombatunder> ok
[07:16] <burner> wombatunder: error was probably the gpg key?  install the ppa key
[07:16] <burner> wombatunder: or just dist-upgrade and you may find your card just works
[07:16] <burner> er... dist-upgrade to jaunty 9.04 that is
[07:16] <NandoMan> IcemanV: thanks! i'm a bit disapointed tough that the rename command doesn't work :P
[07:17] <Reaverblade> hey people, I have a problem with my Toshiba Satellite A105. Here are the specs of my comp:
[07:17] <wombatunder> How big is a distro upgrade?
[07:17] <IcemanV9> NandoMan: mv is what i've use
[07:17] <wombatunder> I have limited data on a mobile connection
[07:17] <Severian> jonathon_,  That should be just the same...crunchbang started with a Ubuntu distro and added openbox and customized the desktop.  They left the Ubuntu repos and so that kind of thing should work.
[07:17] <lstarnes> wombatunder: big
[07:17] <wombatunder> so upgradein the distro isn't an option
[07:17] <Severian> wombatunder, about 4 inches.
[07:18] <burner> wombatunder: many many megs... nevermind that idea then... isn't ubuntu online via wifi or some other connection right now?
[07:18] <Reaverblade> ubuntu jaunty. Intel T2500 2.0GHz Core Duo processor, Nvidia Go 7600 256MB Graphics card.
[07:18] <wombatunder> no
[07:18] <Reaverblade> and it's relatively new (about 2 or 3 years)
[07:18] <NandoMan> anyway, this seems like a nice place to chill
[07:19] <burner> que es la problema Reaverblade?  spit it out already ;)
[07:19] <wombatunder> I'm using an XP machine and ICS to get the internet connection to the ubuntu machine.....
[07:19] <jonathon_> sweet 49 minutes of download left
[07:19] <NandoMan> iĺl be coming here more often
[07:19] <Reaverblade> so, when I download Tremulous, it runs like molasses
[07:19] <vesayth> I just updated my pc which runs Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit. Now I can't access the internet or anything on my lan (I get operation not permitted error if i try to ping). So I'm trying to reinstall network manager by downloading the deb manually, but when installing it tries to connect to the internet and can't. I'm thinking network-manager is not what i need to install. Can anyone advise?
[07:19] <burner> wombatunder: lol... you are resourceful :)  wish I knew what to tell you on your card other than jaunty
[07:19] <Reaverblade> I think the frame rate was somewhere around 15 fps....maybe?
[07:19] <KillGuta> Hello all
[07:20] <kliwon> hi, i get problem after upgrade from intrepid to jaunty.the NM not recognize my modem but it works great at intrepid.any idea ? thanks
[07:20] <burner> vesayth: you sure you don't have network manager already?  "sudo dpkg -l |grep network-manager" to find out
[07:20] <KillGuta> Does somebody know how to handle .ace archives?
[07:20] <IcemanV9> kliwon: re-install NM?
[07:20] <vesayth> burner: I have it, but I think it's a problem version
[07:20] <kliwon> IcemanV9, : i have did it but not works
[07:20] <wombatunder> I've had a windows network up and running for many many years using ADSL, however am having ADSL provider issues at my new house so am trying to make a gateway to share the mobile internet with 4 computers :-D
[07:21] <burner> KillGuta: unace?
[07:21] <vesayth> burner: I'm trying to downgrade to the stable release
[07:21] <KillGuta> burner: Doesn't work for some reason
[07:21] <burner> vesayth: uhh... i wouldn't downgrade... that's messy and complex
[07:21] <KillGuta> Unace implements itself in the default archiver?
[07:21] <kliwon> IcemanV9, : i try to google and found similiar problem..but still no answer
[07:21] <vesayth> burner: ok, so what should I do?
[07:21] <burner> KillGuta: got me on that... but if not, it's probably as easy as "unace filename.ace"
[07:21] <Reaverblade> So, since my graphics card is relatively new, it should run loads of more fps, but it doesn't. Possibly a hardware mismanagement by jaunty?
[07:22] <kliwon> IcemanV9, : but fresh install is working and ok
[07:22] <burner> vesayth: open a term... type "ifconfig" and do you see your network card?
[07:22] <vesayth> it's there, and it connects to the network
[07:22] <vesayth> one sec i'll give you the jist of it
[07:22] <IcemanV9> vesayth: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:22] <burner> but you can't ping?  wtf... can you sudo ping?
[07:23] <KillGuta> burner: Nope.. it says it can't open that file
[07:23] <burner> vesayth: using dhcp?  static?
[07:23] <jonathon_> Severian, how customiseable in cruchbang linux
[07:24] <burner> KillGuta: unace-nonfree ?
[07:24] <vesayth> burner: yes
[07:24] <burner> lol
[07:24] <sacarlson> Reaverblade:  my guess it's your video driver.  I have nvida and since upgrade from 7.04 I don't have the performance I had before.  I now us the nv open driver.
[07:24] <IcemanV9> kliwon: okay. fresh install does work, but upgrade doesn't. correct?
[07:24] <KillGuta> burner: non-free?
[07:25] <Reaverblade> the nv open driver? is it in the package list? if it is, what is it called?
[07:25] <burner> KillGuta: that's the package name... "sudo apt-get install unace-nonfree"
[07:25] <vesayth> icemanv9: resolv.conf shows as follows: #Generated by NetworkManager nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:25] <sacarlson> Reaverblade: it's what should run if you don't enable the propriatary driver
[07:25] <kliwon> IcemanV9, : yes correct
[07:25] <burner> sacarlson: nouveau!!!
[07:25] <Reaverblade> great, how do I disable the proprietary?
[07:25] <IcemanV9> vesayth: still cannot ping outside?
[07:25] <dv_> someone with ipv6 please test if they can access http://tractrix.mooo.com/hello.txt
[07:26] <vesayth> burner: the ip address is on a static lease on my router
[07:26] <kliwon> IcemanV9, : currently i use wvdial.. :D
[07:26] <vesayth> icemanv9: that is correct
[07:26] <burner> aww, i like the proprietary nvidia driver... how else do you play with compiz?
[07:26] <burner> vesayth: and you can ping the router by ip?  in ifconfig, does it show your ip correctly?
[07:26] <IcemanV9> vesayth: check ifconfig to be sure it has ip and up
[07:27] <vesayth> burner: No I get operation not permitted
[07:27] <vesayth> icemanv9: it does. <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <burner> how about "sudo ping <IP_ADDRESS>" or whatever
[07:27] <vesayth> burner: that's what i did. operation not permitted
[07:27] <sacarlson> burner: I don't anymore.  the nvidia driver just don't like my syncmaster 932 monitor.  it works on most others
[07:27] <IcemanV9> that's odd.
[07:27] <IcemanV9> vesayth: is ur firewall up?
[07:27] <burner> vesayth: open a browser to that page?  can you pint <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:28] <burner> sacarlson: did you try the nouveau driver?  it's getting cooler than nv anyway
[07:28] <vesayth> icemanv9: i stopped and purged firestarter from my system after this happened
[07:28] <vesayth> burner: i can ping myself
[07:29] <burner> vesayth: can other people ping you?  maybe firestarter did some things to iptables?
[07:29] <vesayth> burner: no I cannot. I have tried iptables --flush with no success
[07:29] <sacarlson> burner: no I didn't is that a package?
[07:30] <burner> sacarlson: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, then switch the driver from nv to nouveau in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try it out :)
[07:30] <vesayth> output of pinging <IP_ADDRESS>: vesayth@serpent:~$ ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:30] <vesayth> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:30] <vesayth> ^C
[07:30] <vesayth> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[07:30] <vesayth> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3014ms
[07:30] <FloodBot3> vesayth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <vesayth> whoops sorry
[07:31] <vesayth> sorry
[07:31] <Riotblade> Hi, I'm trying to get my PS2 -> PC converter working, but all it recognizes are the directional buttons.  Anyone know the solution to this?
[07:31] <yaris123456789> okay sometimes when wget downloads dynamic URLs, the filename results in a unpredictable manner. Is --restrict-file-names=windows what i should be using?
[07:31] <yaris123456789> also is it possible to make wget avoid http://www.a.com/blacklistedworkd.php , where blacklistedword is something undesirable ?
[07:31] <burner> vesayth: and this IP was doled out by the router via mac reservation right? so we know the cable works... hrm... does a browser to <IP_ADDRESS> give anything?
[07:31] <yaris123456789> also how do i control the # of simultaneous parallel downloads wget makes
[07:31] <yaris123456789> is the default 30 ?
[07:31] <vesayth> everything worked fine before doing a system update
[07:32] <vesayth> burner: not it does not
[07:32] <vesayth> no*
[07:32] <Slart> yaris123456789: wget does parallell downloads? sure?
[07:32] <sacarlson> burner:  I just searched with synaptic I see no such package what repo is this from?
[07:32] <burner> vesayth: system update to 64 from a 32 bit system?  and you wiped it?
[07:32] <vesayth> burner: no. just normal every day system update
[07:32] <sacarlson> burner:  I did see a web page that has something about it
[07:32] <IcemanV9> kliwon: sorry, i cannot think of anymore to tell ya at this point. something did not upgrade properly. dpkg-configure -f (don't remember if this is correct command to fix it)
[07:33] <vesayth> burner: via update manager
[07:33] <burner> vesayth: you could hit "esc" at grub and boot an older kernel... maybe it didn't finish updating or maybe your card is broken in teh latest kernel
[07:33]  * burner shrugs a bit
[07:33] <vesayth> burner: the kernel was upgraded, so i tried to revert back to the kernel i was using and that still didn't fix it
[07:33] <wizz> hi2all does anyone know how to exchange GDM on something else?
[07:34] <kliwon> IcemanV9, : hmm the command dpkg-configure -f NetworkManager ? is it like that ?
[07:34] <kliwon> or just dpkg-configure -f ?
[07:34] <burner> sacarlson: universe.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[07:34] <porter1> Gah. gnome-screensaver is totally worthless now.
[07:35] <sacarlson> burner:  I guess it's not on ubuntu 8.04 yet I have universe set already
[07:35] <IcemanV9> kliwon: leave it blank. maybe it'll fix something else that you didn't know.
[07:35] <burner> kliwon: you're thinking apt-get -f... dpkg-configure is just that... with no -anything
[07:35] <Reaverblade> well, I'm trying out a driver. Off to see if it works...
[07:35] <kliwon> thanks IcemanV9 , burner
[07:35] <kliwon> i will try that 1st
[07:36] <Axel> hello
[07:36] <vesayth> burner: if it helps i do have backports enabled (this is why i wanted to downgrade to stable version of network manager)
[07:37] <Axel> i've a ubuntu 8.10 here and gdm dont show any names or pictures (with a theme that should show them)... how can i fix it?
[07:39] <burner> vesayth: the old kernel works?
[07:39] <vesayth> burner: no
[07:39] <vesayth> burner: that was the first thing I did ^^
[07:39] <ykphuah> I have read some of the forums and performance comparison between 32 bit and 64 bit, and still confused which one I should use for my T6600 Intel Chipset
[07:40] <burner> vesayth: I'm a bit out of ideas
[07:40] <wizz> ykphuah, use 32 bit
[07:41] <wizz> ykphuah, if you have less 4G
[07:41] <vesayth> burner: i'm going to try for the time being to put the machine on automatic dhcp
[07:42] <IcemanV9> ykphuah: try liveCD
[07:42] <ykphuah> wizz: I have 4G exact.
[07:42] <wizz> ykphuah, when use 64-bit (:
[07:43] <shauns> ykphuah: go for 32bit, 64bit gave me nothing but trouble on my lenovo T400
[07:43] <ykphuah> shauns: I will be getting Lenovo Y450
[07:43] <ykphuah> shauns: 32-bit have served me well though
[07:43] <wizz> ykphuah, i'm have bugs in 64 bit's only for xbmc
[07:44] <shauns> Lenovo Y450 look really awesome
[07:45] <ykphuah> maybe I should see whether the default windows comes in 32 or 64.
[07:45] <burner> vesayth: good luck.. i'm off :)  buenos noches free software amigos
[07:45] <Wolf23> back
[07:45] <ykphuah> shauns: yeah, i was very attracted with the looks of it, really nice two color tones.
[07:48] <shauns> looks alot nicer than the T400
[07:48] <silare> If I were looking for presentation software aside from KPresenter and OpenOffice.org, what should I use?
[07:48] <ykphuah> silare: tried google docs?
[07:48] <silare> Lemme' look...
[07:48] <Wolf23> help please
[07:48] <burner> silare: criawips
[07:48] <shauns> silare: google docs with gears
[07:48] <silare> Criawips? Hasn't that project been... dead?
[07:48] <pumpkinseed> Hello everyone
[07:48] <silare> Google Gears hates my Firefox. D:
[07:49] <ykphuah> silare: are you running 64-bit?
[07:49] <silare> Ja.
[07:49] <ykphuah> i heard google gears have problems with 64-bit
[07:49] <silare> Aww. =[
[07:49] <ykphuah> heard/read
[07:49] <silare> Yeah.
[07:49] <silare> It does.
[07:49] <bjornredtail> Doesn't Abi* have a presentation software of some sort? Or they only word proscessing?
[07:49] <Wolf23> help me please!
[07:49] <shauns> not sure about that, i had lots of 64 bit issues so reverted to 32bit after a week
[07:50] <IcemanV9> !ask | Wolf23
[07:50] <ykphuah> silare: http://code.google.com/apis/gears/gears_faq.html#runGearsOn64Bit
[07:50] <pumpkinseed> I've got a file i need to run through wine, but it has a Win32 Trojan on it. What is the safest way to run it?
[07:50]  * bjornredtail looks into AbiWord... which appears to only be bit.