[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #214518 in ubuntu-docs (main) "ubuntu-docs: about-ubuntu / string 19 / translated string does not show up in help documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214518
[16:28] <nixternal> doing translations suck!
[16:30] <LaserJock> :-)
[18:46] <nixternal> mdke: did you have any translations that didn't validate? I just ran validation on the kubuntu ones and supposedly all of them validated
[18:47] <nixternal> kind of hard for me to believe after my experiences the past 2 years
[19:01] <nixternal> ahh, nevermind, a booboo in my script :)
[20:27] <mdke> nixternal: yeah, loads
[20:31] <mdke> nixternal: I have some ideas about improving the translation import experience
[20:32] <mdke> nixternal: but I've just realised I haven't got time before dinner to explain them, so I'll do it later! :)
[20:32] <nixternal> I have them all fixed now for Kubuntu docs
[20:33] <nixternal> mdke: I was thinking about writing a new translation script in python that would automate a lot of stuff, but fixing the imported translations would be the toughest to script
[21:07] <mdke> nixternal: I don't think translation fixage is possible automatically
[21:08] <mdke> nixternal: however, carlos is talking about implementing some syntax highlighting or tag validity checking in rosetta for that
[21:09] <mdke> nixternal: for now there is something we can do
[21:10] <mdke> nixternal: if you fix the translation directly in the po file, rather than the xml file, then it can be uploaded to rosetta to ensure:
[21:10] <mdke> (a) that if you need to download translations later on (like for an update) it will be fixed
[21:10] <mdke> and (b), that you won't get the same error repeating itself over multiple releases: for the next release it will be fixed
[21:13] <nixternal> is there a way to validate po files at all?
[21:14] <mdke> nixternal: using translate.sh :)
[21:14] <nixternal> there wasn't all that much breakage this time around
[21:14] <nixternal> but fixing some of the breakage is tough due to not knowing the language
[21:15] <mophead> sweet
[21:15] <mdke> nixternal: i generally find it's all tag breakage rather than language
[21:16] <mdke> nixternal: anyhow, if you want to upload any po files to rosetta, you need to update the PO-Revision-Date in the header, that should be sufficient.
[21:16] <nixternal> ya, it is all tag breakage here as well
[21:16] <mdke> doing everything in the po file is a good idea because that way we can build the xml at deb build time as I've done for the intrepid branch
[21:16] <mdke> slims down the package a lot
[21:17] <mophead> Hello all.  I'm new.
[21:17] <nixternal> nice
[21:17] <nixternal> howdy mophead
[21:17] <mdke> hi mophead, welcome aboard
[21:17] <mophead> Have you been hearing the talk about making a more accessible documentation?
[21:17] <mophead> Howdy, yourself! :)
[21:17] <nixternal> more accessible as inputting it into peoples brains?
[21:17] <mdke> what do you mean by accessible? and what talk?
[21:18] <nixternal> man, I nixed common/ and bzr revert will not revert it :)
[21:18] <mophead> This kind of talk http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/5580/ about making the text more accessible for people who are a little less tech savvy
[21:18] <mophead> In ubuntu speak, "human beings."
[21:18] <mdke> that post is about the release notes
[21:19] <mophead> There's also 6662, which I wrote
[21:19] <mdke> sounds sensible, I agree. that's something for the marketing team really though, I think
[21:19] <mdke> the docteam doesn't really work on the release notes
[21:19] <mophead> ok.  But take a look at idea 6662
[21:20] <mophead> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/6662/
[21:20] <mdke> mophead: you refer again to the release notes, but I think you're really thinking of the desktop help system
[21:20] <mdke> mophead: we take care of the desktop help system, and would certainly be interested in any concrete suggestions for improving it
[21:21] <mophead> Awesome.
[21:21] <mdke> mophead: we've worked quite a lot over the last year or two on making it understandable for all users
[21:22] <mophead> cool.  The first thing that I noticed is that, under troubleshooting, the help says "if x, then do y", but never says what to do if not x.
[21:22] <mdke> troubleshooting in which section?
[21:22] <mophead> It was the wifi card section on connecting to the internet
[21:23] <mdke> yeah, that section needs a lot of improvement. We have a bug report about it, I think
[21:23] <mophead> Really?  Wow.  I wouldn't go so far as to file a bug report
[21:24] <mdke> yeah, bug reports are essential for us to trace issues
[21:24] <mophead> I will definitely volunteer to proofread help files for readability
[21:24] <mdke> mophead: that would be helpful; you can file a bug report for each issue you find and we'll fix it; or even start submitting some fixes of your own
[21:24] <hypa7ia> mophead: i can show you how to do bug reporting on tuesday
[21:24] <hypa7ia> it's not hard at all
[21:25] <mdke> mophead: have a look at the pages under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/ for info on our processes
[21:25] <mdke> mophead: and tell us about any issues on those pages too :)
[21:25] <hypa7ia> mophead: this is leigh btw :)
[21:25] <mdke> hypa7ia: heya!
[21:25] <mophead> yes, I know!
[21:25] <hypa7ia> mdke: hi?
[21:25] <hypa7ia> mophead: ok good :)
[21:26] <mdke> hypa7ia: sorry, perhaps you are a different hypatia
[21:26] <mdke> https://edge.launchpad.net/~hypatia
[21:26] <mophead> I can start crawling through the documentation wiki.
[21:26] <mophead> But the thing is, I recognize there is also a need for technical documentation.
[21:27] <mdke> mophead: technical documentation can be written in a way that is easy to understand too; our aim is that any user can use our help
[21:27] <hypa7ia> mdke: yup, i'm the other one :) https://edge.launchpad.net/~hypa7ia
[21:27] <mdke> my bad
[21:27] <hypa7ia> no worries
[21:28] <mophead> mdke: that's the trick, yeah.  I guess that's what I'm volunteering for
[21:31] <mophead> I'm glad that it's something that is on your radar though
[21:31] <mophead> hypa7ia, if you could guide me, that wou ld be a big help
[21:32] <mdke> mophead: sure
[21:42] <hypa7ia> mophead: remind me on tuesday and we'll go over it :)
[21:43] <mophead> sweet
[21:48] <hypa7ia> :D
[21:48] <hypa7ia> LINUX PARTY
[21:53] <mophead> :D
[21:54] <nixternal> No localization exists for "config_desktop-ku" or "config". Using default "en".
[21:55] <nixternal> mdke: ^^
[21:55] <nixternal> don't get why it is doing the "config_desktop-ku"
[21:55] <nixternal> in the past it would have just been "ku"
[21:55] <nixternal> oh man
[21:55] <nixternal> derr on me
[21:55]  * nixternal needs to fix the xml files for the correct lang
[21:55] <nixternal> argh argh argh argh!
[22:02] <mophead> I'm still not entirely sure how I want to do it
[22:02] <mophead> But I know I'm a good reader!
[22:05] <mdke> nixternal: is that because you changed something inside the xml? Maybe you changed the value of &language;?
[22:05] <nixternal> I didn't change it manually, it was changed with the pot files
[22:05] <nixternal> po files rather
[22:07] <mdke> nixternal: erm, that's very odd indeed
[22:08] <nixternal> it happened in Gutsy as well, I remember fixing it
[22:08] <nixternal> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13283459/launchpad-export.tar.gz
[22:08] <nixternal> there is the kubuntu-docs translations...take a look and see how weird it is
[22:08] <mdke> nixternal: no problem to report in ubuntu-docs like that
[22:11] <mdke> it's all language="en" as per the original
[22:13] <nixternal> <article id="about-kubuntu" status="complete" lang="about-kubuntu-cy">
[22:13] <nixternal> those get added to all of the translated .xml files
[22:14] <nixternal> about-kubuntu-cy.po
[22:14] <nixternal> and that is how the files look from the translation tarball
[22:15] <mdke> do you rename to po files to cy.po before you use the translate script
[22:15] <mdke> to/the
[22:16] <LaserJock> yeah <lang>.po is expected
[22:16] <nixternal> ya
[22:16] <nixternal> I forgot to change them first
[22:17] <mdke> ah, that's why. are you using the same translate.sh as ubuntu?
[22:17] <nixternal> ya
[22:17] <nixternal> I will write a quick script to fix that
[22:17] <nixternal> how do you check out a bzr branch? ie. what is the best way? I have to re-checkout the kubuntu-hardy branch
[22:18] <mdke> see hack.sh for the rename
[22:18] <mdke> nixternal: well, "bzr branch url" is the usual way. Some tips are on wiki.u.c/DocumentationTeam/Repository for speeding things up
[22:18] <nixternal> ya, looking there as well as the bzr bind docs
[22:19] <mdke> bzr bind doesn't help you with checking a branch out
[22:21] <nixternal> alright, branch downloading...that should take a week or so :)
[22:21] <nixternal> I need to go put this desk together while that goes
[22:21] <nixternal> bbiab
[22:22] <mdke> nixternal: if you have the ubuntu-docs branch already in a shared repo, getting kubuntu-docs in the same repo will only take a few minutes
[22:25] <LaserJock> nixternal: I have some scripts in edubuntu-hardy too for tranlsation stuff
[22:38] <mdke> man there are insane amounts of errors in ubuntu-docs this time round :(
[22:38] <mdke> this will take a while
[22:45] <nixternal> I don't want to put this desk together
[22:45] <nixternal> I wish I knew magic
[22:46] <mdke> flat packs rock
[22:46] <nixternal> my goal for Intrepid, is make it much easier to do translations
[22:48] <mdke> there is no way around it, except if rosetta implements syntax highlighting or checking for translators at the source
[22:48] <nixternal> I am talking the importing stuff :)
[22:48] <mdke> and uploading corrected po files, I think that will help
[22:48] <nixternal> the validation portion is easy enough to fix, just tedious and time consuming
[22:48] <mdke> nixternal: well, that is already pretty straightforward, to be honest. The renaming bit is just a bug in rosetta
[22:48] <nixternal> ahhh
[22:48] <mdke> everything else is done in translate.sh automatically
[22:49] <nixternal> so lets beat up the rosetta people in getting stuff fixed :)
[22:49] <mdke> well, it's not hard to do the rename thing either :)
[22:49] <nixternal> ya, but I am lazy and forgetful obviously
[22:49] <mdke> but I'll certainly pursue this syntax highlighting/checking idea, it sounds awesome
[22:50] <nixternal> but, unlike some people, I haven't forgotten my svn password or lost my ssh key :)
[22:50] <mdke> it's only a matter of time
[22:50] <mdke> it's the kubuntu way
[22:50] <nixternal> haha
[22:50] <nixternal> ooh
[23:13] <sommer> mdke: should I commit that spelling fix patch, for the serverguide?
[23:15] <mdke> sommer: yes, go ahead. thanks
[23:15] <sommer> mdke: cool, will do. thank you
[23:16] <mdke> sommer: also to the intrepid branch if you don't mind
[23:16] <mdke> otherwise I'll do that bit
[23:16] <sommer> yep, I'll apply it there as well
[23:17] <mdke> great
[23:17] <mdke> cheers
[23:20] <mdke> ok, here goes with the supercommit
[23:24]  * mdke signs off for the night


[00:32] <jandrusk> Just created mine @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jandrusk. Lame as well.
[00:33] <Unit193> Unless you want to from scratch, steal one from someone else :P
[00:33] <Unit193> Anyway, good start!
[00:33] <Unit193> jrgifford: While there is talking, mind pinging me before your meeting so I don't forget?
[01:08] <jrgifford> Unit193: Sure.
[01:08] <jrgifford> jandrusk: Good start to your wikipage.
[01:45] <jandrusk> Looks like James might have a few redundant keys on keyserver.ubuntu.com.
[01:45] <jandrusk> http://andrusk.com/images/gifford_keys.png
[01:46] <Unit193> Just a few
[01:47] <jandrusk> I have about half a dozen since 99.
[18:57] <Unit193> s_snake: Nobody seems to have done it yet, so welcome to the Ubuntu Ohio LoCo! Hope you enjoy yourself ;)
[23:47] <jrgifford> Unit193: And another impressive netsplit happens.
[23:47]  * jrgifford still hasn't been caught in one. :P


[00:23] <JanC> if you can get on IRC, then what is the problem?
[06:31] <thekrynn_> trying to setup a usb ethernet dongle for an extra iface, but not showing up at all.. any ideas?
[09:41] <g3org3s> Hi - would this be applicable on 16.04 ? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassassin
[10:12] <somix> hello
[10:13] <somix> how install openstack or juju in vmware workstation
[10:14] <somix> whay
[10:14] <somix> how
[10:15] <somix> whaaaaaaaat
[10:16] <somix> hhh
[10:16] <somix> thaaanx
[10:16] <somix> $ sudo apt install conjure-up
[11:26] <g3org3s> Can I install mail ina box on 16.04 ?
[11:26] <g3org3s> or still not supported ?
[13:20] <devster31> hi guys, what could be the reason I can lsusb and lshw an usb hard drive but I can't lsblk it and therefore cannot mount it?
[14:26] <RoyK> devster31: dead disk?
[14:27] <devster31> it works fine on windows
[14:27] <devster31> and on OSX
[14:37] <RoyK> devster31: what's in dmesg?
[14:38] <RoyK> please !pastebin that
[14:38] <RoyK> !pastebin
[14:40] <devster31> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16439404/ there's lshw and lsusb too
[14:41] <devster31> it seems to know exactly what's plugged in but doesn't know it's a hard drive
[14:42] <RoyK> weird
[17:09] <eatingthenight> anyone have any recommended software for managing a small setup of 3 machines running KVM?
[17:10] <synchronet> why use KVM, what you using the box for?
[17:14] <eatingthenight> nothing at the moment all i really want is a low cost way to manage a small VM cluster
[17:15] <eatingthenight> esxi does what I want but I have to pay 1k a year for it otherwise it imposes limits on what kind of resources I can allocate.
[17:15] <synchronet> ok, but for running what?  Websites!
[17:17] <synchronet> if so Virtualmin GPL will do you fine
[17:18] <synchronet> Nice install script as well
[17:19] <synchronet> Needs a clean install of OS tho, I would go 14.04
[17:20] <synchronet> and a good FQDN
[17:20] <dasjoe> eatingthenight: define "cluster". Do you need automatic, managed failover?
[17:21] <dasjoe> eatingthenight: I stuck with libvirt, neither Ganeti, nor ovirt delivered what I needed
[17:21] <eatingthenight> yeah i guess cluster is a bad word. Downtime is completely fine.
[17:21] <eatingthenight> looking at virtualmin gpl now
[17:22] <synchronet> Try Virtualmin you might be surprised what it can do
[17:22] <synchronet> I use it a lot
[17:22] <synchronet> but just websites
[17:22] <synchronet> nothing fancy
[17:22] <synchronet> backup and restore module is second to none
[17:24] <eatingthenight> hmmm, yeah i need a few more abilities then just website management, I think what I'll end up doing is just managing it from the commandline and then write my own web interface for it once I see what I all need. unfortunately I can't find anything in between apache openstack and cli that is halfway decent
[17:25] <dasjoe> eatingthenight: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/libvirt.html
[17:43] <eatingthenight> dasjoe: this looks like it will work for me, thanks!
[18:37] <Goug> Hi - I think I messed up smth while isntalling mysql - how can I reset it to a fresh installation ?
[18:38] <Goug> nevermind - got it to work again
[18:39] <bekks> Goug: Why do you thing you messed up something?
[18:40] <bekks> Reinstalling will not fix it.
[18:40] <Goug> I couldnnt login to the database - acces denied - the I restarted the service - now its working again
[19:45] <habibi> the app that i am going to be running will run as a certain user whos setuid and setgid permissions shall be stripped. but this app still needs to have the ability to open ports > 1024. will this work?
[19:46] <habibi> because i have read somewhere long ago that to open sockets the computer sets id to root, opens the socket. then sets id back to user
[19:50] <tarpman> habibi: you don't need any special permissions to open ports > 1024; did you mean < 1024?
[19:51] <tarpman> habibi: either way: yes, what you are describing (start as root; perform privileged actions; drop permissions permanently) is standard practice
[19:53] <habibi> tarpman, no i meant > 1024. i know that that is not allowed. i had like 1 link that showed the easier command that removes all perms from a particular user. but i lost it. do you know what is the easiest but safest way to do this ?
[19:57] <tarpman> habibi: easiest and safest way IMO is to arrange for the init system to start your daemon as a unprivileged user (ideally, a user dedicated to that daemon)
[19:58] <tarpman> habibi: or, if does need root privileges during startup for some reason, then man 2 setuid and man 2 setgid
[19:59] <habibi> tarpman, and the security friendly way (just to check with you) would be to take off all the unnecessary perms of the scripts of that user in the bin folder yeah?
[19:59] <habibi> or are there any other folder i have to think about as well?
[19:59] <tarpman> I don't understand the question, sorry
[20:01] <tarpman> habibi: if you want to go even further with restricting what your program is allowed to do, look into apparmor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[20:01] <bekks> habibi: Which kind of permissions are you trying to strip off of that user?
[20:02] <habibi> i need to find that link. one second let me try this
[20:04] <habibi> ok i found it bekks and tarpman : http://linux-audit.com/finding-setuid-binaries-on-linux-and-bsd/
[20:04] <bekks> habibi: And why do you want to tinker around with setuid for a specific user?
[20:05] <bekks> habibi: Do you know what setuid is for?
[20:05] <habibi> the idea was that i make a spearate user for a daemon. then i strip that user of access to all the scripts in bin folder. so that no hacker can get into this user through the daemon and on the off chance that they can. then they cannot use the gid and uid to trick the computer to give them root access
[20:06] <bekks> habibi: that nonsense, actually.
[20:06] <bekks> habibi: Do you know what setuid is for?
[20:07] <habibi> bekks, some guy on ##security said it was a good idea. setuid is defined like this: Binaries with the setuid bit enabled, are being executed as if they were running under the context of the root user. This enables normal (non-privileged) users to use special privileges, like opening sockets.
[20:07] <bekks> habibi: Do you understand what setuid is for?
[20:07] <habibi> bekks, bro i just told you
[20:07] <bekks> habibi: No you told me what someone else told you.
[20:08] <habibi> Binaries with the setuid bit enabled, are being executed as if they are running under the context of the root user
[20:08] <bekks> Which doesnt mean YOU understand what setuid is for.
[20:08] <habibi> i understand what that line means
[20:08] <bekks> And do you know why setuid is set for those specific binaries?
[20:08] <habibi> because those specific binaries need some type of root access in their functioning
[20:09] <bekks> Correct.
[20:10] <bekks> So if you unset setuid, you will break those binaries and/or their functionality.
[20:10] <habibi> yes bekks but i would argue that my user thats running that daemon may not need ALL those binaries. so removing their setuid may not be a good thing
[20:10] <bekks> Which just have something to do with messing up your system, and not with securing it.
[20:11] <bekks> If you dont want your user to have access to specific files, use ACL and disallow access.
[20:13] <habibi> since thats just going to be one daemon
[20:13] <habibi> bekks, and if my user is not running ALL those binaries. then removing them would be a good idea because then there is less things that a potential hacker could trick to give them root access
[20:13] <habibi> to this understanding, i have set out to change the setuid and setgid values for the bin folder. and was asking if there are other binaries i want to change that could be tricked, but not really necessary for the running of my daemon
[20:13] <bekks> Do you understand that removing setuid isnt possible for a specific user, but globally only?
[20:14] <habibi> bekks, that part i did not actually know. but was going to look around for
[20:14] <habibi> ACL hmm ok
[20:14] <habibi> i'll look into that one
[20:15] <habibi> i only want to give that user access to activities needed for its daemon. namely opening sockets > 1024. reading to its home directory. and writing to its home directory
[20:15] <habibi> everything else i want to restrict. using ACL or AppArmor or w.e there is
[20:15] <bekks> So do it. No need to mess up your system.
[20:15] <habibi> alright awesome. thanks for the heads up bekks
[20:24] <g3org3s> Hi - mysql issue - it's weird - I can login from the server console - I can also login from phpmyadmin - but when I use it in my php file - database connection unsuccseful - am I missing something in the config ?
[20:31] <bekks> g3org3s: How are you trying to connect, using PHP?
[20:31] <g3org3s> bekks, it's a user managemetn framerware - during setup they ask the database to connect to
[20:31] <bekks> And what are you entering?
[20:33] <g3org3s> Databasr host = IP , database user and pass - the ones I am successfully using to login via shell on server or phpmyadmin - Database name : Database I created in phpmyadmin for this project
[20:34] <bekks> g3org3s: So did you configure your mysql server to accept connections on the IP? And why dont you use <IP_ADDRESS>?
[20:36] <g3org3s> bekks, it's working now - I thought it was requesting the remote access of that server - I completly forgot that it is local! my bad ; many thank
[20:36] <bekks> you're welcome :)
[22:20] <newbsie> New to systemd coming from upstart/14.04. Where do I place the conf file for systemd for gunicorn? In /etc/systemd/system with my own naminc scheme?
[22:30] <xnox> newbsie, yes, more or less. Also note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[22:31] <newbsie> xnox: If I need to run different processes of gunicorn for different websites, do they each go in their own conf file?
[22:34] <xnox> read systemd units documentation on template units
[23:26] <conrmahr> Is there any chat logs saved somewhere? I had someone help me re-image a disk but didn't write it down.
[23:27] <RoyK> depends on the client
[23:28] <conrmahr> limechat?
[23:30] <RoyK>  l
[23:30] <RoyK> no idea - sorry
[23:31] <teward> maybe ask #limechat ?
[23:31] <teward> conrmahr: ^
[23:32] <conrmahr> How about I ask for help on re-imaging a secondary disk
[23:48] <conrmahr> Can some one help remove all partitions on a WD Red 4GB harddrive that has RAID array on it?


[00:57] <Kangarooo> Can i see Ubuntu Iso like config files online? without downloading?
[04:46] <guiverc> Kangarooo, what type of config files??; there are manifests for ISOs, that include the packages included on ISO, but install options used may not cause all to be installed (you can go to packages.ubuntu.com to explore what's in a package), and installer used for installation does't get installed... online seed files show what is included on an ISO (if you want to explore creation of ISO)..
[04:46] <Kangarooo> guiverc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemsettings/+bug/2048403
[04:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-bugs- Launchpad bug 2048403 in systemsettings (Ubuntu) "Out of box shorcuts are lost when defaulting shortcuts. Defaults makes shortcuts lost. Clicking default defaults to not to default defaults but to different defaulting defaults faultly." [Undecided, New]
[04:48] <Kangarooo> i would like to make bug triaging video training video in next loco meetup. wanted to prepare for this bug- searching for word meta in configs in computer and finding original confing in online or downloading iso
[04:48] <guiverc> I can't help sorry Kangarooo; I'm not a dev & don't have sufficient detail here to provide even pointers
[05:03] <cpete> Kangarooo: Are you  asking specifically for pointers in debugging that systemsettings package bug? Or tips for debugging and/or bug triaging in general?
[05:04] <Kangarooo> cpete: well this bug looks easy to check- confgitming with diff what clicking default does. copying config files. finding where are thouse confing files. using find command.
[05:05] <Kangarooo> confiirming
[05:09] <cpete> So looking for the default config files?
[05:14] <Kangarooo> yeah, with find will try multiple tiimes until we find where is fresh live install made config and copy before and after defaulting shortcuts that doesnt make default ones but different ones.
[05:15] <Kangarooo> cpete: then in next video could show how to implement bug fix. can you say some video thats good to check how to post bug fix?
[05:50] <cpete> That all sounds reasonable to me. I'm not aware of any videos (youtube probably though) but if you were to make one then something along the lines of https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-maintainers-handbook/blob/main/PackageFixing.md  and  http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ might be good? You could probably get some good answers by asking in #ubuntu-devel too


[08:02] <usr2033> Hi, what "waiting for machine" means?
[08:03] <usr2033> parlos: vault container is waiting for allocation


[20:38] <Unit193> Jordan_U: Good job being quick in there.
[20:38] <Jordan_U> Don't remember how to force registered only. Maybe a good idea.
[20:40] <Unit193> /mode +r
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Seems it's not needed anyway.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> I'll add that to my notes though.
[20:41] <Unit193> If it gets bad enough, usually Drone` will do it, but of course if you feel it is needed don't just wait for the bot to do it.
[23:52] <genii> Maybe keep an eye out for Hellboy, I juist booted him from #u but didn't ban, I'm headed out now though


[00:20] <rastersoft> Hi all
[00:21] <rastersoft> I found a bug in the Ubuntu installer, but I'm not sure if I have to report it here or in #ubuntu-bugs
[03:33] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2180 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/apply-drivers): fail gracefully if fglrx install fails
[05:07] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2181 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/mythbuntu_install.py): add apt cdrom to target system before doing install_extras
[05:15] <superm1> this last commit that i added is currently only active for the mythbuntu frontend, but it might be a good idea for either.  this then allows the cd to be used after install to install any locally cached packages
[23:10] <tepsipakki> cjwatson: d-i/console-setup has code that generates /etc/default/console-setup, and xorg uses that. Debian however doesn't, so are you planning on pushing those changes into Debian? It was ack'ed to commit the bit for xserver-xorg.postinst.in, so it's there already waiting


[08:02] <xequence> OvenWerk1: You are probably the one who knows most about our live session right now? If you have time, please have a look at it
[08:03] <xequence> OvenWerk1: I'm sure you are aware of the bug that prevents it from auto-loading from the DVD
[08:03] <xequence> might be impossible to login even
[08:03] <xequence> Xubuntu has a fix. I have it in the irc logs somewhere too
[08:04] <xequence> I'm going to dive into that, if you won't. I'll also be pushing for making linux-lowlatency a part of the official source tree, so that we no longer need to maintain the SRUs. Just make config changes when needed
[13:24] <zequence> bug lp:1259525
[13:24] <zequence> bug 1259525
[13:24] <zequence> I added our package there now
[13:28] <zequence> Going to commit soon. Seems easy enough
[13:49] <zequence> I'm applying for upload rights now. I'll try to get it to be granted for a team that we ourselves can administer in lp, which would only include me and Len from the US team, at the most. Still, nice if we can get some control
[14:07] <cub> That would be good.
[17:47] <zequence> micahg: Hi. I'm applying for upload rights for the UBuntu Studio package set, and was wondering if you could endorse me :). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zequence/DeveloperApplication#Endorsements


[06:57] <scott_ev> I'm still sick and sleeping too much - I hope to finish them in the am
[16:58] <PaulW2U> pleia2: apart from blogosphere, all summaries done
[17:00] <pleia2> hooray
[18:26] <pleia2> scott_ev: if you have time to work on blogosphere today that'd be great (and remember to add your name to the bottom of the doc :))


[00:10] <brousch> H&R Block Online
[00:10] <brousch> Been using it for like 5 years
[00:42] <snap-l> Yeah, I think I'm going to go to H&R Block office to see if they can make some sense of this
[00:42] <snap-l> went from getting returns in 2011 to getting my ass handed to me this year.
[00:43] <snap-l> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FhJH8OTu1n8#! <- first 30 minutes are hilarious
[00:43] <snap-l> Not ROFL hilarious, but just not what I expected.
[12:34] <snap-l> Good morning. Happy Easter.
[14:33] <rick_h_droid> morning
[21:34] <snap-l> finally done with eater stuff
[21:42] <rick_h_> snap-l: party
[23:32] <snap-l> Yeah, now we're going to watch the new episode of Doctor Who


[00:11] <blkorpheus> nautilus breaks on flash drive access
[00:11] <crimsun> how so?
[00:14] <crimsun> COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l nautilus|awk '/^ii/ {print $3}'
[00:14] <crimsun> 1:2.21.6-0ubuntu1
[00:14] <crimsun> that version works fine here
[00:14] <blkorpheus> crimsun! you pop up everywhere
[00:14] <blkorpheus> anyway
[00:15] <blkorpheus> I just accessed my flash drive, and the desktop is black since I closed the flash folder window
[00:15] <crimsun> compiz enabled?
[00:15] <crimsun> dri enabled?
[00:15] <crimsun> (for the latter, /or binary-only restricted driver)
[00:16] <blkorpheus> compiz
[00:16] <blkorpheus> nvidia, never use dri
[00:16] <crimsun> can you reproduce it on a fresh boot using the 'nv' X.Org driver?
[00:18] <blkorpheus> I shudder to even think of trying
[00:18] <crimsun> well, you need to.
[00:18] <crimsun> rule out the graphics driver
[00:20] <blkorpheus> there have been recent updates to nautilus, even as I type this
[00:21] <blkorpheus> recent updates, have broken thinggs that have worked fine
[00:21] <blkorpheus> nautilus, mythtvfrontend
[00:21] <blkorpheus> xorg
[00:21] <blkorpheus> I've been filing bugs all week
[00:22] <crimsun> that's why I provided the version of nautilus I'm using
[00:24] <blkorpheus> bug #185108
[00:24] <cdm10> Hardy still can't be properly updated from a fresh install of Alpha 3.
[00:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185108 in mythtv "/usr/bin/mythfrontend.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmyth-0.20.2.so.0: undefined symbol: stat64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185108
[00:24] <Spenser309> Hi
[00:25] <blkorpheus> this was a gutsy install upgraded to alpha2 then updated from there
[00:25] <Spenser309> I'm currently trying to install xen in Hardy.  But dependencies seem to be foobared.  Specifically ubuntu-xen-desktop relies on a package called linux-xen which is unsatisfiable
[00:25] <cdm10> oh, it works now.
[00:25]  * cdm10 shuts up
[00:26] <blkorpheus> 1:2.21.6-0ubuntu1
[00:26] <blkorpheus> my nautilus version
[00:27] <crimsun> blkorpheus: and it's reproducible on a fresh boot using "nv" instead of "nvidia"?
[00:27] <blkorpheus> its this machine, so I have not rebooted
[00:28] <blkorpheus> or killed x
[00:30] <Spenser309> Anyone tried to install xen in Hardy?
[00:30] <blkorpheus> crimsun, after this latest update the issue is not there
[00:31] <crimsun> blkorpheus: right, much as I thought.
[00:31] <blkorpheus> The size of the flash drive on the desktop now reports 4g instead of the true 3.7G before
[00:34] <Spenser309> So, Xen anyone?
[00:35] <RAOF> blkorpheus: Sure the units haven't changed?
[00:35] <blkorpheus> I've learned silence is an acknowledgment in the negative
[00:35] <Spenser309> lol, yeap
[00:35] <RAOF> blkorpheus: 4GiB ~= 3.7GB, from memory.
[00:35] <blkorpheus> RAOF, the units increased?
[00:35] <Spenser309> ohh well I'll have to just figure it out.
[00:36] <blkorpheus> I think not
[00:36] <blkorpheus> its always been a 4g stick
[00:36] <blkorpheus> the true size was reported before and by other distros
[00:36] <RAOF> blkorpheus: Yeah, but what does the "G" mean.  We've been transitioning from G = Gigabyte = 2^20 bytes to Gi = Gibibyte = 10^9(?) bytes.
[00:37] <blkorpheus> I think it is just a genric name forthe volume
[00:37] <blkorpheus> GB
[00:37] <blkorpheus> the total capasity is 3,7GB
[00:38] <blkorpheus> nautilus would crash after viewing the properties of the drive then closing
[00:39] <RAOF> Wheee!  Crashhappy nautilus.
[00:39] <blkorpheus> its stable now
[00:40] <blkorpheus> just wish I could get my mythfrontend working again
[00:40] <blkorpheus> its still recording
[00:40] <blkorpheus> soI can just use any viewer to watch the recordings
[00:40] <blkorpheus> but for live tv, I can forget it
[00:40] <Spenser309> i had a permissions problem in nautilus one time that would cause my entire system to have its permissions changed root:root
[00:42] <blkorpheus> lookslike the detailed view bug in nautiulsis gone
[00:42] <blkorpheus> where the length of text determined the width of the column
[00:43] <blkorpheus> one had to resize the column each time a visit to the folder was required
[00:44] <RyanPrior> My update manager says that I have "broken packages". How do I fix them?
[00:45] <RAOF> By not using Hardy, generally.
[00:45] <RAOF> This is entirely expected as package versions change, new packages are added, etc.
[00:45] <RyanPrior> RAOF: so, I can reboot my computer and not risk especial stability due to "broken" packages?
[00:45] <RAOF> Indeed.
[00:46] <RAOF> As long as you haven't *removed* anything critical.
[00:46] <RyanPrior> It says that I can find which packages are broken using the "broken filter", but I've never used a broken filter before and don't know how.
[00:47] <RAOF> It's in Synaptic somewhere.
[00:47] <Spenser309> in the bottom right corner of synaptic select custom filters
[00:47] <RAOF> Basically it's likely to be fixed by updates.
[00:47] <Spenser309> broken is the first one
[00:47] <Spenser309> im sorry bottom left
[00:47] <RyanPrior> Hmm, now it says 0 broken in Synaptic.
[00:47] <Spenser309> What are you trying to do/
[00:47] <Spenser309> ?
[00:48] <RyanPrior> Just investigating a dialog I got while upgrading, telling me that I have broken packages and that I can find them if I look.
[00:48] <RyanPrior> Hardy certainly is error-prone, but I like filing bug reports, so it's all good. :-)
[00:49] <Spenser309> hmm. Doesn't it tell you to run a command? maybe sudo apt-get install -f
[00:49] <Spenser309> that should automagically fix it
[00:51] <RyanPrior> Nope, didn't tell me to run a command.
[01:17] <wastrel> hrm
[01:18] <wastrel> my laptop sound stuff isn't set up properly
[01:19] <SeveredCross> Does anyone else have an issue with X ignoring xorg.conf?
[01:19] <SeveredCross> I want SHMConfig for Synaptics, and I have it in xorg.conf, but X totally ignores it.
[01:20] <SeveredCross> I like the self-configuring 1.4 server, but that's a terrible regression.
[01:20] <SeveredCross> Launchpad has some related bugs but no workarounds.
[01:22] <RAOF> SeveredCross: X isn't ignoring *my* xorg.conf.
[01:22] <SeveredCross> Weird.
[01:22] <RAOF> SeveredCross: Want to compare? :)
[01:22] <SeveredCross> Sure. Pastebin?
[01:23] <SeveredCross> http://pastebin.ca/869279
[01:23] <wastrel> what's SHMConfig?
[01:23] <RAOF> http://cooperteam.net/xorg.conf :P
[01:23] <scizzo-> wastrel: google it...
[01:23] <SeveredCross> SHMConfig enables a shared memory area for the Synaptics driver, so that userland applications can change touchpad preferences.
[01:23] <scizzo-> wastrel: its a synaptics config for X
[01:23] <scizzo-> wastrel: to use touchpad....
[01:24] <SeveredCross> I think I'm missing ServerLayout.
[01:24] <RAOF> SeveredCross: Aaah.  It's probably ignoring your synaptics section because you don't reference it anywhere.
[01:24] <wastrel> i have synaptics
[01:24] <SeveredCross> Heh. Great minds think alike.
[01:24] <RAOF> And it might be using your mouse section for its input needs.
[01:24] <wastrel> but i don't really need to configure it, the  defaults are fine
[01:25] <RAOF> You can either try adding a ServerLayout, or remove your mouse section.
[01:25] <SeveredCross> I just despise Tap to Click.
[01:25] <RAOF> And I like it :).
[01:26]  * RAOF adds syndaemon control interface for gsynaptics to his TODO.
[01:26] <scizzo-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168581&page=3
[01:28] <SeveredCross> Okay, the changes have been made, now it's time for an X restart.
[01:30] <SeveredCross> Much better. :)
[01:30] <wastrel> ah tap to click
[01:30] <wastrel> i added an option to turn that off once
[01:30] <wastrel> now i have a thinkpad with the touchpoint thing so i don't use the touchpad normally except for scrolling
[01:31] <SeveredCross> GSynaptics works fine for me. :) QSynaptics also works, but is not as nicely integrated.
[01:31] <SeveredCross> With syndaemon, it's perfect.
[01:31] <RAOF> It shouldn't be too hard to add a little checkbox to gsynaptics with "disable touchpad while typing" and a delay thingy.
[01:32] <SeveredCross> Also, <3 radeonhd.
[01:32] <SeveredCross> Maybe there's no 3D acceleration yet, but damn it's nice to be free from the clutches of fglrx.
[01:32] <wastrel> ah that's the new radeon driver?
[01:32] <SeveredCross> Yup.
[01:33] <SeveredCross> Works great, except for a few minor things that aren't really visible.
[01:33] <wastrel> yeah i'm looking forward to that, my work computer has a radeon card
[01:33] <SeveredCross> For some insane reason it adds a lot of noise across the VT's, but they know that happens and are working on a fix, and there's no 3D acceleration which kinda sucks (I was looking forward to Compiz with a free driver) but that'll get worked out in time.
[01:50] <cdm10> Where'd the option to enable NTP go in the clock settings?
[01:52] <cdm10> Oh, it's in System>Admin>Time and Date. Why does the context menu of the clock applet no longer go to that?
[01:53] <HellMind> How can I do to include a new jack version in Hardy release?
[01:57] <AaronMT> !ubotu slub
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <HellMind> !ubotu jack
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <HellMind> !ubotu jackd
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jackd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <RAOF> HellMind: In increasing order of effort and likelyhood of action: (1) file a "needs upgrade" bug against jack on launchpad.  (2) Find out whether Debian has a newer jack, and add that info to the needs-upgrade bug. (3a) if there is a newer debian version, work out whether the new debian version builds on Hardy, and ask for a sync (read the wiki!). (3b) Update the Debian package with the new jack version.
[02:01] <RAOF> HellMind: In any case, it's getting progressively more unlikely that jack will be updated - we're approaching feature freeze, so new upstream versions are soon going to require a very good reason to be accepted.
[02:01] <cdm10> Where should I report a problem with the time-admin program?
[02:01] <cdm10> I'm not sure what package it's in.
[02:07] <HellMind> RAOF Where is the wiki, and does it explain how to add a "needs upgrade" bug?
[02:08] <RAOF> !contribute
[02:08] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:09] <RAOF> HellMind: But you really want to be looking at wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:09] <RAOF> Since jack is in Universe.
[02:10] <wastrel> hrm
[02:10] <wastrel> well my little package bug is probably not going to get fixed then eh :]
[02:21] <BlackDiamonds> isn't jack being replaced by pulseaudio ?
[02:21] <BlackDiamonds> also I posted an email on the devel mailing list, how long should I wait before bugging for a reply ?
[02:21] <BlackDiamonds> it's a simple thing and I would like it to be done before the feature freeze
[02:22] <DanaG> Jack and Pulseaudio actually have different purposes.
[02:22] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I hate the new CFS scheduler.
[02:22] <DanaG> It makes my Nice +19 and SCHED_IDLEPRIO folding@home processes take up half of my CPU time.
[02:22] <DanaG> It's essentially IGNORING nice levels and IDLEPRIO.
[02:22] <DanaG> Apparently, it's "by design".
[02:23] <RyanPrior> I'm having trouble with my ATI graphics card. I have fglrx installed, but the module is not being loaded and there is no entry for it in my xorg.conf
[02:23] <BlackDiamonds> can anyone answer my question about the mailing list ?
[02:25] <DanaG> It almost seems like nice levels have been inverted....
[02:25] <RAOF> BlackDiamonds: That depends.  You posted to devel-discuss, yes?  THere'll be a bit of a ait for moderation (I think), then just wait, basically.
[02:25] <DanaG> my nice -19 "cat /dev/null process is getting fr
[02:25] <RAOF> BlackDiamonds: What was the email?
[02:26] <RyanPrior> I think xorg is configuring my graphics card settings wrong. How do I fix a problem like that?
[02:26] <RyanPrior> My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53108/
[02:28] <BlackDiamonds> RAOF I posted to devel
[02:28] <BlackDiamonds> not devel-discuss
[02:29] <RAOF> Any particular reason?  devel-discuss is probably the more appropriate list.
[02:29] <DanaG> Argh, how is it that a +19 idle process is getting more priority than compiz, which is zero nice?
[02:29] <BlackDiamonds> oh shoot
[02:29] <DanaG> That seems broken to me.
[02:29] <BlackDiamonds> some one told me the other day to post on devel
[02:29] <RAOF> Oh?
[02:29] <RAOF> They may have been right.
[02:29] <RAOF> Has your email cleared moderation?
[02:30] <BlackDiamonds> I think so
[02:30] <BlackDiamonds> it's in the archive
[02:30] <RAOF> Right.  So which one is it?
[02:31] <BlackDiamonds> Subject: Package linux-wlan-ng should be installed by default
[02:31] <RAOF> Ah, that one.
[02:31] <BlackDiamonds> it would be really nice to see this fixed before the next alpha
[02:32] <BlackDiamonds> it's not very hard to do anyways, a simple change in the livecd builing and such
[02:32] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/boinc/+bug/177713
[02:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177713 in boinc "CFS in 2.6.24 kernel needs cpu_share adjustment for "niced" processes" [Medium,Confirmed]
[02:32] <DanaG> Used to be titled better.
[02:32] <BlackDiamonds> DanaG, isn't this an upstream bug ?
[02:32] <DanaG> It's also in Ubuntu.
[02:33] <RAOF> BlackDiamonds: Ah, right.  That seems to make sense.  Maybe you can ask in #ubuntu-devel after another day or so.
[02:33] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/177713
[02:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177713 in boinc "CFS in 2.6.24 kernel needs cpu_share adjustment for "niced" processes" [Medium,Confirmed]
[02:33] <DanaG> Oddly, it says "is not in ubuntu".
[02:33] <DanaG> What's up with that?
[02:33] <BlackDiamonds> thank you RAOF
[02:33] <BlackDiamonds> I will pipe up in there in a day or so
[02:35] <DanaG> Running folding@home even niced to +19 and idle priority is somehow still chopping my framerate in compiz-fusion in half.
[02:35] <DanaG> It's also inducing a moderately irritating key lag.
[02:37] <RyanPrior> DanaG: Obviously that means you should't run folding@home. :-)
[02:38] <DanaG> No, it means the 2.6.24 kernel's new scheduler is a regression.
[02:38] <DanaG> (yeah, I know you were joking.)
[02:41] <blkorpheus> -4-server is broken
[02:42] <blkorpheus> fails during usb hardware detection
[03:18] <Spenser309> I'm about to report a bug on ubuntu-xen-desktop meta package.  This is due to an error I recieved while trying to install it using synaptic.  The error reads ubuntu-xen-desktop: Depends: linux-xen but it is uninstallable.  Linux-xen is not in the repos... any suggestions?
[03:19] <Spenser309> ok its posted
[03:20] <Hobbsee> Spenser309: that's usually tracked in other ways
[03:35] <RyanPrior> I am having trouble with xorg's configuration of my 3D card. It doesn't have any entry for it in xorg.conf and glxinfo reports that direct rendering is not enabled, which shouldn't be true. lsmod doesn't show any driver for my card loaded, which also doesn't make sense.
[03:57] <RAOF> RyanPrior: Have you tried checking out System->Screens & Graphics?
[03:57] <RAOF> Oh, there should be an ->Administration-> in there.
[03:57] <RyanPrior> RAOF: it's completely blank.
[03:58] <RyanPrior> RAOF: In fact, it just crashed and Apport came up.
[03:59] <RAOF> Right.  Well, there's at least one bug for you to file, then :)
[04:00] <RyanPrior> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/displayconfig-gtk/+bug/146929
[04:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 146929 in displayconfig-gtk "displayconfig-gtk crashed with UnboundLocalError in __init__()" [Undecided,Fix released]
[04:00] <RyanPrior> The bug by the same name has already been fixed in 2007. Suppose it's a regression?
[04:00] <crdlb> ooh it's written in python?
[04:01] <RyanPrior> I suppose so.
[04:01] <RAOF> crdlb: Yup.
[04:02] <crdlb> I didn't mean to put a '?' :)
[04:02] <RAOF> Official language of Ubuntu(tm) :)
[04:03] <RyanPrior> Okay, I filed a new bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/displayconfig-gtk/+bug/185253
[04:03] <RyanPrior> Can one of you guys confirm it?
[04:03] <RyanPrior> Or does the program open up fine for oyu?
[04:04] <RAOF> Works just fine here.  But I've got a pretty complete xorg.conf.
[04:05] <RyanPrior> Mine is really bare-bones.
[04:06] <RyanPrior> And it's exactly what dkpg-reconfigure recreates for xorg when I reconfigure.
[04:06] <RAOF> Yeah; X now should autodetect very nearly everything, so...
[04:07] <RyanPrior> RAOF: Would you mind letting dpkg reconfigure your xorg.conf and then running the program?
[04:13] <RAOF> Ok.
[04:13] <RAOF> Someone should make git cloning the kernel faster.
[04:14] <RyanPrior> I think it's already pretty fast as cvs goes.
[04:14] <crdlb> put it on bzr!
[04:14] <RAOF> I think bzr might be slower.
[04:14] <RAOF> On the other hand, it *might* be faster now, at least for whatc I'm doing.
[04:14] <RyanPrior> I gotta go. Check you guys later.
[04:15] <RAOF> Git still hasn't finished thrashing the Ubuntu server.
[04:15] <RyanPrior> From everything I've heard, git is much faster for large projects like the Linux kernel.
[04:15] <crdlb> RAOF: that was a joke :P
[04:15] <RAOF> I guessed.
[04:15]  * DanaG wants the old scheduler back.
[04:15] <DanaG> CFS sucks with 'nice' loads.
[04:16] <wastrel> i started using git after watching linus's famous git talk @ google
[04:16] <wastrel> well, i didn't watch at google, i watched the video, the talk was at google
[04:20] <RAOF> You know, bzr *may* be faster than git for cloning the kernel.
[05:29] <shirish> hi all, does anybody know of the command as to how to find which package is responsible for some command/some bin file ?
[05:29] <DanaG>   /usr/lib/command-not-found
[05:30] <DanaG> pass the command name as the first argument.
[05:32] <shirish> DanaG: I think I was not right, ok, lemme take the example which will clearly illustrate what i wanna do
[05:33] <shirish> DanaG: for example, I know xrandr is a virtual package but the command works
[05:34] <shirish> so the command /usr/bin/xrandr is packaged somewhere else, I wanna know in which package it came.
[05:34] <crdlb> dpkg -S /usr/bin/xrandr
[05:34] <crdlb> or use apt-file
[05:35] <shirish> crdlb: thanx, would try both of them.
[05:37] <DanaG> Apt-file doesn't work in Hardy.
[05:39] <shirish> bye guys, see u sometime soon
[05:57] <xnix> does anyone have a problem in hardy where compiz window borders do not appear?  I cant figure it out, i always revert to metacity
[06:02] <xnix> oops
[06:09] <DPic> will hardy be released for the PS3?
[06:10] <bazhang> a better question would be: who will get hardy on the ps3 first? :}
[06:12] <DPic> ah, i see
[06:12] <DPic> how long did it take to get gutsy on the PS3 after the final release?
[06:24] <bazhang> think it was on there during beta :}
[06:25] <DPic> cool. thanks :)
[06:37] <JSharp> hmm, I recently did a clean install of Hardy and now I'm having some trouble getting my wacom tablet to work, I've updated the installation and am current with the repository. When I add the InputDevice sections back to xorg.conf and readd the serverlayout section, the x server crashes and restarts GDM when I log in, but the tablet seems to work okay before that
[06:37] <JSharp> has anyone experienced anything similar? I can't seem to find any bug reports after doing a thorough search
[09:06] <slytherin> Can anyone using hardy confirm bug 185291
[09:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185291 in nautilus "No icon for cd image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185291
[09:22] <scizzo-> slytherin: what happens when you add the mime-type that should be used then?
[09:23] <slytherin> scizzo-: I didn't try. :-(
[09:23] <scizzo-> slytherin: do it...
[09:23] <scizzo-> slytherin: and see if that affects anything
[09:23] <scizzo-> you have a backup thingy about the mime-type so no worries to destroy it
[09:23] <scizzo-> mostly to see the actual affect
[09:24] <slytherin> scizzo-: Will do it tonight. I am in office currently and using gutsy.
[09:24] <scizzo-> slytherin: okie dokie...
[09:25] <slytherin> scizzo-: Weird thing is that gutsy shows icon even though everthing else is same.
[09:26] <scizzo-> slytherin: might be the mime-types but not sure where....
[09:26] <scizzo-> slytherin: or even the theme itself
[09:27] <slytherin> scizzo-: right, i didn't think that before. theme might be the problem.
[09:34] <scizzo-> slytherin: well its a long shoot...but still
[09:34] <scizzo-> slytherin: nothing like trying out what exactly is wrong is it? ;)
[10:14] <alteregolio> i can't get updates
[10:15] <alteregolio> can't get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/source/sources.gz 403 forbidden
[10:17] <ccooke> Try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/source/Sources.bz2
[10:21] <alteregolio> hardon works great
[10:22] <blkorpheus> /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmyth-0.20.2.so.0: undefined symbol: stat64
[10:22] <blkorpheus> mostly
[10:22] <JSharp> unless you're trying to get a wacom tablet working, got some issues there :/
[10:22] <JSharp> but otherwise pretty awesome <G>
[10:22] <blkorpheus> me too
[10:23] <blkorpheus> the gnome weather applet broken
[10:23] <blkorpheus> and mythfrontend broken
[10:23] <blkorpheus> also the new kernel, -4-server, broken
[10:23] <blkorpheus> etc..
[10:28] <alteregolio> supertux2 doesn't work with it
[11:01] <alteregolio> is atl1 a userspace driver?
[11:05] <slytherin> blkorpheus: I guess weather applet is combined with clock applet. Have you tried latest clock applet?
[11:07] <blkorpheus> I noticed the clock date and time options has changed
[11:08] <blkorpheus> it has the same locations, and now it pulls weather!
[11:08] <blkorpheus> maybe the weather applet is being depreciated?
[11:08] <blkorpheus> bac to sleep I go:)
[11:39] <calc> blkorpheus: clock applet in hardy doesn't pull weather for me yet?
[11:41] <blkorpheus> HOVER YOUR MOUSE OVER THE CITIES sorry you added
[11:46] <AAU_Johan> Hi, i have experienced several random screen blackouts with my thinkpad X41 lately.
[11:46] <AAU_Johan> The system lives on, i can CTRL+ALT+DEL and the system reboots and works again.
[11:46] <AAU_Johan> However i'm not able to shift to console with CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:46] <AAU_Johan> So i have no idea what goes wrong? Any recent reports of this=
[11:46] <AAU_Johan> .
[11:57] <slytherin> AAU_Johan: If that is a hardy problem then I would suggest file a bug.
[12:23] <calc> blkorpheus: oh ok
[14:13] <tinin> Hi, I want to use kde4. Is it beeing more updated and polished in hardy than in gutsy?
[14:13] <tinin> !kde4
[14:13] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:34] <bardyr> does anybody know when the nvidia 169.09 driver will hit hardy?
[14:34] <bardyr> !nvidia-glx-new
[14:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-glx-new - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:34] <bardyr> !info nvidia-glx-new
[14:34] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (<IP_ADDRESS>-4.12)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 169.07+<IP_ADDRESS>-4.12 (hardy), package size 5661 kB, installed size 16192 kB
[14:58] <Zambezi> Is there inbuilt encryption during installation in HH like Etch?
[15:01] <bardyr> Zambezi, there should be in the alternative cd
[15:08] <wastrel> there was in the gusty alternate cd
[15:13] <alteregolio> heh
[15:13] <alteregolio> is hardy prepared for ext4?
[15:15] <ccooke> alteregolio: ... in what sense?
[15:15] <alteregolio> because i don't support murderfx
[15:15] <alteregolio> because i don't support murderfs
[15:15] <Pici> ...
[15:16] <kripken> that should be innocent-until-proven-guilts-fs
[15:16] <bardyr> lol
[15:17] <ccooke> alteregolio: okay... what does resiserfs have to do with anything? reiser has (thankfully) never been the default on Ubuntu
[15:17] <bardyr> isnt raiserfs the murderfs? it was found guilty
[15:18] <ccooke> I've not heard of any verdict on the Reiser case. Besides, that is hardly a good reason for not using a filesystem
[15:18] <alteregolio> yeah
[15:18] <Zambezi> Is there inbuilt encryption during installation in HH like Etch? (Asked it once, but got disconnected).
[15:18] <alteregolio> my computer should be politically correct
[15:18] <ccooke> (Especially when there are actual *good* *technical* reasons not to use it already)
[15:19] <ccooke> Zambezi: I don't believe it's an option on the installer, currently
[15:19] <bardyr> Zambezi, there should be in the alternative cd
[15:19] <ccooke> ah, nice
[15:19] <bardyr> didnt it get added in gutsy?
[15:19] <Zambezi> bardyr ccooke: Is it on GG too or just HH?
[15:20] <kripken> Hmm, wikipedia says the trial was on break until last week. So it should be running right now unless it was delayed.
[15:20] <Zambezi> I have FF right now.
[15:20] <ccooke> Zambezi: Check the alternate install CD - I haven't used it myself.
[15:20] <bardyr> Zambezi, i believe it was added into the gutsy alternative cd
[15:20] <alteregolio> gutsy gibbon successfully satisfied the Zoologic test
[15:21] <Zambezi> bardyr: Lovely. Im going to have a look.
[15:21] <Zambezi> I'm so sorry I didn't suggested Horny Hippo instead of Hardy Heron. :-P
[15:21] <Zambezi> -ed
[15:21] <ccooke> Zambezi: should be "Hungry Hippo", if it's going to be a hippo...
[15:22] <Zambezi> ccooke: A hippo is both. :-P
[15:22] <alteregolio> or a squirting quagga
[15:23] <Zambezi> The release after HH got to be something with Ivory.
[15:23] <ccooke> Ibex is nice... :-)
[15:24] <alteregolio> yeah they living in perfect harmony
[15:28] <ccooke> of course, they could go off the rails a bit for "Insane Iguana"...
[15:35] <wastrel> i used the gusty alternate cd the other day & there was an option for encrypted fs during install
[15:36] <wastrel> (i didn't try it)
[15:38] <kripken> Insane Iguana might be a good name if its a really unstable release
[15:38] <kripken> I'd vote for it
[15:42] <wastrel> something Ibis
[15:44] <bardyr> kripken, next release after a LTS should be insane
[15:44] <kripken> yeah
[16:42] <JoeLinux> Does anyone know where I can find the Hardy Server SPARC Alpha release?
[16:47] <bardyr> JoeLinux, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-3/
[16:47] <wastrel> hardy
[16:47] <bardyr> wastrel, ?
[16:47] <geser> JoeLinux: I know there is a daily ISO for sparc, but I don't know if there is an extra ISO for each alpha release
[16:48] <bardyr> geser, there is
[16:49] <JoeLinux> @bardyr: Thanks, it's downloading right now.
[16:49] <JoeLinux> The Tracker site doesn't seem to have any working links for ISO download.
[16:49] <bardyr> tracker site?
[16:50] <JoeLinux> The ISO Trackers site, through Ubuntu.com.
[16:51] <JoeLinux> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[16:52] <JoeLinux> From the looks of the Tracker site, no one has tested the SPARC server edition yet.
[16:52] <JoeLinux> Unless there's another tracking area I'm not aware of?
[16:52] <JoeLinux> Has anyone been testing SPARC?
[16:56] <Technoviking> what package do I install for testing firefox3
[16:56] <bardyr> Technoviking, firefox-3.0
[17:12] <Oli``> Does pulseaudio lag for anybody? If I change the volume in an application, or pause it, etc, it takes half a second or so to respond
[17:39] <kripken> Oli``: in what apps does this occur?
[17:40] <Oli``> kripken: It seems to effect all streams.
[17:40] <kripken> Oli``: Then no, it works fine over here. Pause/restart in totem is instantaneous (VLC lags on some media... but it always did, no idea why)
[17:42] <Oli``> My bad. Totem works fine. I think it's perhaps effecting ALSA applications that are running into an ALSA sink in PA
[17:43] <Oli``> Amarok (for example) is one such app. Xine, another.
[17:44] <kripken> That might be. I don't have Amarok here to test. But Totem and xmms are fine
[18:36] <mrtimdog> I've a very hot laptop! Does one of powernowd, powersaved adjust the fan speed as well as the cpu freq scaling, or is there another deamon/kernel mod involved?
[19:09] <mrtimdog> What's the best way of stopping apt installing recommended pkgs when installing a package? I've set the aptitude option to not do it, but it still does.
[19:14] <silent> mrtimdog, fan speed is an acpi function, and installing recommended packages is a good idea, as dependencies come into play
[19:15] <silent> mrtimdog, it's not as if the recommended packages really take up all that much space
[19:17] <mrtimdog> Thanks, silent. So the temp control (via ACPI) is not controlled by software?
[19:17] <silent> mrtimdog, it can be, by editing config files, but I have to go for nwo
[19:19] <mrtimdog> I know recommended pkgs are a good idea, but I've 4G for my OS (exluding /home) and it's nearly full. Anyone else any ideas on how to configure apt not to install recommended packages?
[19:25] <bardyr> mrtimdog, software sources and uncheck recommended
[19:26] <mrtimdog> Hi bardyr: No, that's for enabling/disabling the repo for recommended updates.
[19:27] <bardyr> oh, yea :/
[19:27] <mrtimdog> Just found the solution. Had to remove the config file /etc/apt/apt.cond.d/01ubuntu installed by apt which contains the config for these specific options :)
[19:28] <mrtimdog> Thanks for looking though :)
[19:30] <Technoviking> is Screen and Graphics control panel empty for everyone else also?
[19:32] <bardyr> yes
[19:36] <nubbe> Will Hardy be a good choice to switch to amd64 from 32-bit for a regular desktop user, web (flash and such stuff)?
[19:38] <bardyr> yea
[19:39] <bardyr> nubbe, all the flash thingies and other needed 32bit apps are installed so its almost no hassle
[19:41] <nubbe> There has been problems with oo.org, some printers-drivers also, in the past
[19:41] <nubbe> but I will probably give it a go this time, (again)  :)
[19:55] <filthpig> which stage is hardy at right now?
[19:55] <rsk> filthpig: alpha
[19:56] <filthpig> ok, when do you plan on making it beta?
[19:56] <filthpig> final is april, right?
[19:56] <crdlb> a month before release
[19:56] <crdlb> so late march
[19:56] <filthpig> okay
[19:57] <rsk> crdlb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[19:57] <rsk> ops filthpig *
[19:57] <filthpig> hey crdlb, can you answer a question for me over at the "normal" chan or compiz-fusion?
[19:57] <filthpig> rsk, ah, thanks
[19:57] <filthpig> er, if not answer, at least look at it, lol
[20:36] <Gnine> rhythmbox still keeps crashing, no crash report generated. 8.04 hardy x86
[20:57] <bardyr> is it enough to install the kd4 package to run it properly?
[20:57] <rsk> !kde4
[20:57] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:07] <mrtimdog> I'm getting, from nautilus, the msg: "Nautilus cannot handle network: locations.". Is this a current problem, or my config?
[21:19] <Assid> err
[21:19] <Assid> there seens to be one more bug
[21:19] <Assid> brightness goes up and down on its own
[21:22] <RAOF> mrtimdog: That's a known issue with the shiny new nautilus-gio that we've got.  It's not complete yet :)
[21:32] <wastrel> kde4
[21:34] <PC-Ente> kde4
[21:34] <PC-Ente> doesent work for me
[21:51] <bardyr> !info php5-ffmepg
[21:51] <ubotu> Package php5-ffmepg does not exist in hardy
[22:26] <mrtimdog> RAOF: Thanks, no probs - eagerly waiting... :)
[23:19] <bardyr> is there a way i can get amarok to use pulseaudio?
[23:19] <bardyr> and/or gstreamer?
[23:33] <RAOF> Uuuuum.
[23:34] <RAOF> bardyr: So, pulseaudio.  I *believe* there's a pulseaudio xine plugin.  Using amarok's xine engine should allow you to choose that.  Maybe.
[23:34] <RAOF> bardyr: And I think Amarok has a gstreamer backend, you'd just need to select it in amarok's preferences.
[23:43] <BlackDiamonds> RAOF I'm a little confused about audio in ubuntu
[23:43] <BlackDiamonds> what does gstreamer, xine, pulseaudio and jack do ?
[23:43] <RAOF> Well.
[23:44] <BlackDiamonds> wait, I mixed that up
[23:44] <BlackDiamonds> gstreamer, xine and pulseaudio and jack are two different things
[23:44] <RAOF> GStreamer & Xine are audio/video pipeline systems.  You feed in some a/v stuff (in whatever format) and they spit out a/v stuff in a different form.
[23:44] <RAOF> Yeah.
[23:45] <BlackDiamonds> pulseaudio and jack are audio daemons right ?
[23:46] <BlackDiamonds> they sit on top of alsa ?
[23:46] <RAOF> Yes.
[23:46] <RAOF> And, in the case of Pulse, below alsa as well :)
[23:46] <BlackDiamonds> woha wut
[23:47] <RAOF> So, pulseaudio and jack are (partially) about the problem "how do I make this raw audio stream come out my speakers?"
[23:47] <RAOF> ...in such a way that I can mix various streams together, have accurate timings (for lip-synching, for example), etc.
[23:48] <BlackDiamonds> ah
[23:48] <RAOF> Pulseaudio is more than that; it also solves "I want to be able to associate this sound sample with $ERROR_CONDITION, and be able to say "play $ERROR_CONDITION""
[23:49] <BlackDiamonds> when I was experimenting with gentoo and slackware, I had to use some crazy alsa stuff with voodo magic to get aMSN to give me a chime while I was playing music in Amarok
[23:50] <RAOF> The "perfect pulse setup" includes using a pulseaudio alsa plugin.  So programs that use alsa go Program -> ALSA (default hw) -> pulse -> ALSA (actual sound hw)
[23:54] <articpenguin3800> do i report kubuntu bugs to kde.net or launchpad
[23:54] <RAOF> Launchpad.
[23:55] <articpenguin3800> does upstream mean kde.org
[23:55] <RAOF> You may also want to file them at kde.org as well, once it has been determined that it's not a bug specific to kubuntu.
[23:55] <RAOF> Yes, "upstream" means "kde.org".  At least for the KDE packages :)
[23:58] <BlackDiamonds> articpenguin3800 I think you can file at both and then link the bugs using launchpad ?
[23:58] <BlackDiamonds> also RAOF, is it possible with pulseaudio to do what vista does with audio ?
[23:58] <BlackDiamonds> which is control each apps audio ?
[23:58] <RAOF> BlackDiamonds: For me to respond to that I'd need to know what vista does with audio :)
[23:58] <BlackDiamonds> like you can mute MSN, and IE but keep your music player up
[23:59] <BlackDiamonds> app specific audio control
[23:59] <RAOF> Yes.
[23:59] <RAOF> You want the padevchooser (and associated) package(s).


[03:26] <ahoneybun> hello people!
[03:52] <Mirv> ScottK: thanks to you
[05:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:29] <soee> good morning
[09:47] <soee> uhm, if i change some settings using oxygen-settings than apply them, button OK will stay inactive i can clos ewindow using Cancel button - thats a bit strange
[10:12]  * smartboyhw celebrates FinalFreeze with joy:P
[10:13] <Riddell> is it announced?
[10:13] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Yes. By infinity I think.
[10:17] <smartboyhw> Seriously: Still no S codename!?
[10:17] <smartboyhw> That's later than R.
[10:20] <Mamarok> Slimy Slurp
[10:22] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: It hasn't been OFFICIALLY announced right?
[10:22] <Mamarok> not that I know of :)
[10:22] <Mamarok> I just made that up, come on :)
[10:22] <smartboyhw> Phew Debian will finally release;P
[10:22] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: LOL
[10:27]  * apachelogger cheers for JontheEchidna
[10:28] <smartboyhw> apachelogger: For what? :)
[10:29] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please send a mail to the translators asking them to have a look at stable and set some deadline for a release
[10:29] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: fixing bugs
[10:29] <smartboyhw> apachelogger: \o/
[10:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dude, halp, waiting for the new daft album is killing me
[10:31] <Mamarok> gah, what is Dr. Konqi part of again?
[10:32] <smartboyhw> ?
[10:32] <Mamarok> kde-runtime?
[10:36] <soee> it was said S will use Super Soee
[10:36] <smartboyhw> soee: Nah it will be Smarty Smartboyhw:P
[10:37]  * smartboyhw thinks the name-guessing game has started again…
[10:37] <soee> nope System Shutdown
[10:38] <soee> or maybe Mark would like: Shuttleworth System
[10:38] <smartboyhw> soee hmm it might be Soaking Shuttleworth:P
[10:43] <Riddell> should I be worried that I'm getting notification of a new kubuntu version?
[10:44] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Of what?
[10:45] <Riddell> it doesn't say
[10:46] <Riddell> clicking on it runs do-release-upgrade which doesn't find anything
[10:47] <smartboyhw> Riddell: What release are you on currently?
[10:51] <Riddell> raring
[10:51] <Riddell> which is what makes it a little worrying
[10:52] <smartboyhw> Riddell: :O
[10:52] <smartboyhw> The S archive hasn't been opened yet.
[10:54] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1170603] Amarok can't found debug package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1170603 (by Skyman)
[11:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: heh
[12:55] <smartboyhw_> heh rather quiet today. Probably cause FinalFreeze is on and no RC images.
[13:03] <Riddell> I'm playing with this nexus
[13:03] <Riddell> it's very unreliable :(
[13:03] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[13:03] <Riddell> usb connection to my computer keeps disappearing
[13:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: atleast it's not like the shitty TF101
[13:04] <shadeslayer> but no serial console either
[13:04] <shadeslayer> so, pretty sad
[13:04] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: the Kubuntu image or?
[13:04] <Riddell> now it's been sending userdata for the last five minutes, do I give up on nit?
[13:04] <Riddell> usb connection to my computer keeps disappearing
[13:04] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: ?
[13:04] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[13:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I suppose so, change the cable?
[13:07] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: active and nexus7 won't be in good shape for 13.04 right? (Should be even worse than powerpc)
[13:07] <smartboyhw_> I mean for release.
[13:10] <Riddell> smartboyhw_: yeah :(
[13:10] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: Grrrrr… :P
[13:11] <smartboyhw_> So basically we are doing only amd64, i386 & amd64+mac (unless some helpful tester tests powerpc for us)
[13:14] <Riddell> yep
[13:14] <shadeslayer> amd64+mac is useless
[13:14] <shadeslayer> just use amd64 now
[13:14] <shadeslayer> or well
[13:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why is it useless?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> maybe it's useful for the weird mac's that I've heard about
[13:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: amd64 ISO now comes with grub-efi
[13:14] <shadeslayer> and you can use that on the 2011 mac's
[13:15] <shadeslayer> though the last time I said the mac images were useless, I was shot down saying they're for some special macs
[13:15] <shadeslayer> no idea which ones are 'special'
[13:16] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: Some strange bootloaders?
[13:16] <shadeslayer> dunno
[13:16] <shadeslayer> I asked for details, no one knew
[13:16] <shadeslayer> this was like 8-10 months ago
[13:17]  * smartboyhw_ hates Apple's computer hardware (not software or smartphones)
[13:17] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:17]  * shadeslayer has a mac
[13:17] <shadeslayer> funky hardware
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: completely flashing everything on my N10 takes ~190 seconds
[13:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm, so it probably is bust here
[13:31] <Riddell> I wonder why the ubuntu touch images are made in a different way to the normal ubuntu images
[13:31] <shadeslayer> one word, hardware enablement
[13:31] <shadeslayer> right now it's ubuntu inside android
[13:31] <shadeslayer> and they're trying to switch containers
[13:32] <shadeslayer> so that it's android inside ubuntu
[13:32] <shadeslayer> and everything on the ubuntu side communicates with Android using libhybris
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that's two words btw
[13:40] <apachelogger> hardware(1) enablement(2)
[13:40] <shadeslayer> hah
[13:40] <shadeslayer> okay
[13:40] <shadeslayer> two words
[13:41] <shadeslayer> anyway
[13:41] <shadeslayer> bbl
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Sorry I left. What have I missed?
[14:24] <Riddell> nothing, we were waiting for you
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Riddell: For what?
[14:25]  * smartboyhw thinks he isn't that important;P
[14:25] <Riddell> for a party
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Riddell: What sort of party?
[14:28]  * smartboyhw thinks he has been tricked by Riddell.
[14:29] <Riddell> a freezing party
[14:30] <smartboyhw> Riddell: I'm just joking:P
[14:45] <Darkwing> Hey guys
[14:46] <smartboyhw> Hello Darkwing;)
[14:46]  * Darkwing does a slow wave
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Gee it's almost KC Council voting time
[14:50] <smartboyhw> s/KC/Kubuntu/
[14:50] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "Riddell: Gee it's almost Kubuntu Council voting time"
[15:14] <Quintasan> ...
[15:14] <Quintasan> ScottK: Can you send me an GPG encrypted message using KMail?
[15:17] <Riddell> I'm away until monday evening, anything I need to do before then?
[15:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do we have kdepim 4.10 packages?
[15:20] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: post out an RC testing announcement?
[15:22] <Quintasan> ...
[15:22] <Quintasan> we had 4.9.98 for quantal but we don't have 4.10 for quantal wtf
[15:22] <smartboyhw_> Quintasan: :O
[15:24] <Quintasan> or wait
[15:24] <Quintasan> WT
[15:24] <Quintasan> WTF
[15:25] <smartboyhw_> !?
[15:26] <Quintasan> nvm
[15:27] <smartboyhw_> Phew:)
[15:34] <Riddell> Quintasan: looks there to me https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=kdepim&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[15:35] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: You need to send testing announcement:P
[15:35] <smartboyhw_> Assuming RC images are before you come back on Monday night
[15:36] <Quintasan> Riddell: Yeah, I'm dumb, I've been running semi-upgraded quantal for a while it seems
[15:37] <smartboyhw_> Quintasan: Semi-updated :O
[15:40] <Quintasan> Still, can't sent a freaking encrypted message
[17:12] <apachelogger> ohgodohgodohgod
[17:12] <apachelogger> WAH
[17:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: !
[17:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.amazon.com/Get-Lucky-Radio-Edit/dp/B00CEIGYAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1366391502&sr=8-2&keywords=daft+punk+get+lucky
[17:12]  * apachelogger falls off chair
[17:12] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:12] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:12] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:12] <shadeslayer> just one song?
[17:12] <apachelogger> first single
[17:13]  * apachelogger throws money at computer
[17:13] <apachelogger> TAKE ALL MY MONIES BUT GIVE ME THE LUCKY SONG :@
[17:13] <apachelogger> I HAZ IT
[17:13] <apachelogger> \o/
[17:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxp0PFoIdmU
[17:17] <shadeslayer> free?
[17:18] <apachelogger> yes
[17:18] <apachelogger> because we do not want daft punk to continue making the musics
[17:18] <shadeslayer> haha
[17:19] <apachelogger> one does not buy music to buy music one buys it to make daft punk rich so they can one day make a rap album about a ganster life
[17:19] <apachelogger> *gangster even
[17:19] <apachelogger> is that even a word, looks funny
[17:20] <shadeslayer> someone kick whoever designed this board
[17:20] <shadeslayer> rbelem: ^
[17:20] <shadeslayer> no serial out
[17:21] <shadeslayer> gadget drivers don't work
[17:21] <shadeslayer> fbcon doesn't work
[17:21]  * apachelogger relogs
[17:21] <shadeslayer> kill me now
[17:21]  * apachelogger actually reboots
[17:21] <shadeslayer> rebootlogger
[17:34]  * Quintasan hits shadeslayer with an axe
[17:35] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:35] <shadeslayer> why
[17:35] <apachelogger> how rude :O
[17:36] <Quintasan> [19:21:17] <shadeslayer> kill me now
[17:36] <Quintasan> Not dead yet?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> I see
[17:36]  * Quintasan hits shadeslayer with banhammer
[17:36]  * shadeslayer drops dead
[17:36] <Quintasan> Good
[17:37]  * Quintasan casts Revive on shadeslayer
[17:37] <shadeslayer> nooo
[17:39] <Quintasan> You don't want to?
[17:39] <Quintasan> Well too bad
[17:39] <Quintasan> :P
[18:11] <volkan> hello everyone. have you ever noticed that clicking on a .deb file does not actually install the file?
[18:11] <volkan> it just downloads the dependencies
[18:13] <volkan> Riddell: hey jonathan. maybe you?
[18:17] <volkan> Riddell: also do you think if the PO files for userconfig will be available before 18th April?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> volkan, today is the 19th
[18:19] <volkan> BluesKaj: ops! :)
[18:19] <volkan> hope its because of hangover :))
[18:20] <volkan> so probably it is not possible to include anyway then?
[18:22] <ScottK> Quintasan: Probably.
[18:22] <ScottK> Still need it?
[18:23] <Quintasan> ScottK: I was wondering if you can actually do it
[18:23] <Quintasan> Since all I'm getting is General error from KMail
[18:23] <ScottK> To what address?
[18:24] <Quintasan> ScottK<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:33] <ScottK> Quintasan: I get an error too.
[18:33] <ScottK> I guess I've only been GPG signing things.
[18:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: Do you have my key marked as trusted?
[18:33] <ScottK> No.
[18:33] <ScottK> Let me try that.
[18:34] <Quintasan> ScottK: Apparently that's the problem but even after I marked the key as trusted I still got the error
[18:37] <ScottK> Kleopatra crashed on me.
[18:45] <ScottK> Yeah.  Same problem here.
[18:53] <debfx> have you actually signed his key?
[19:20] <ScottK> It showed up as trusted on kleopatra when I looked.
[19:23] <rbelem> shadeslayer, :-D
[19:23] <shadeslayer> rbelem: I think we found the issue
[19:23] <shadeslayer> rbelem: we as in ChickenCutlass :P
[19:24] <rbelem> shadeslayer, awesum
[19:24] <shadeslayer> there's a watchdog timer that is monitored, if that runs out the system reboots
[19:24] <rbelem> shadeslayer, :-D
[19:24] <shadeslayer> the boot parameters also line up with that
[19:27] <rbelem> shadeslayer, hum... did you grab the daemon that takes care of the watchdog from android?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> nope
[19:27] <shadeslayer> I did not know about the watchdog at all
[19:28] <shadeslayer> I thought the bootoption was something to set the framebuffer widt
[19:28] <shadeslayer> *width
[19:28] <shadeslayer> though I should have looked at the next thing, tmr
[19:51] <Quintasan> wait
[19:51] <Quintasan> >ChickenCutlass
[19:52] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I somehow think I met him at UDS
[19:52] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:52] <shadeslayer> either way
[19:52] <shadeslayer> he's awesome
[19:52] <Quintasan> Ah yeah Michael Frey
[21:31] <soee> hi someone here ? not sleeping
[21:33] <Quintasan> soee: sup?
[21:33] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/19/plasma-desktopaF2220.png
[21:34] <Quintasan> The hell did I just create?
[21:34] <soee> how can i add app to start autmaticaly when system starts ? (copy client)
[21:35] <soee> https://www.copy.com/home/
[21:36] <yofel> startup & shutdown -> autostart
[21:36] <Quintasan> what yofel or write an init script
[21:37] <yofel> that or run it from /etc/rc.local if it needs to run independent from the session
[23:19] <ScottK> apachelogger: Would you please unleash your genius on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316306 - both the reporters are on Kubuntu, so it might be worth a look.


[23:36] <Dr_willis> oops
[23:36] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: remove vesa and glx, and then make a fresh nvidia-glx-new install
[23:36] <vaylence> Trying to install, but keep getting hung up on the partitioner, I get no root file system is defined snag, but I have no options to choose a root system, ideas?
[23:37] <teq> freexe: try to access the,m
[23:37] <samtwon814> hi
[23:37] <samtwon814> is anyone there?
[23:37] <samtwon814> HI
[23:37] <samtwon814> is anyone there?!
[23:37] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: how do i remove vesa
[23:37] <bastid_raZor> vaylence; are you selecting to manually select partitions?
[23:37] <bastid_raZor> i killed him :\
[23:37] <samtwon814> i need help building computer
[23:38] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: right now i am running with a pcritical xorg file so it is bare bones
[23:38] <samtwon814> can anyone in here help a beginner out?
[23:38] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: that will get me to a desktop
[23:38] <MISI> Hi, i have installed TCL8.5 usng Synaptic, and now i dont know where it is installed :/
[23:38] <holyhell> alright guys, i need a huge favour, i finally got time to install ubuntu on my macbook, but i am in the woods with dialup on another computer, i canT google all the specific tutorials. can anyone tell me what i need to read exactly, i want to put ubuntu on a partition of lets say 6 gigs max. pls help :)
[23:38] <gbor> Hi
[23:38] <dubby> hey anyone i have firewall issue and just installed firestarter to help manage it, anyways i need sshd but i want it to drop people after 8 failed attempts, can i do that through iptables ?
[23:38] <marko_> guys how do i load subtitles in totem ?
[23:38] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: restart after uninstalling vesa and installing the new driver
[23:38] <nickrud> MISI, the executable is in /usr/bin
[23:38] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: does it matter if i am using DVI or VGA on the card?
[23:38] <freexe> teq: they appear empty even though they have size. I've tried to format it to start over, but gparted crashes out with the message "*** stack smashing detected ***: gparted terminated"
[23:39] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: How do you uninstall vesa?
[23:39] <Pelo> holyhell, just use gparted from the system > admin menu,  make some free space by resizing a partition , then when doing the install tell ubuntu to use the unallocated space
[23:39] <teq> freexe: what happens if you just plug your ipod?
[23:39] <marko_> does noone know ?
[23:39] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: mhh let me look for the cmd
[23:39] <holyhell> @ Pelo what do u mean by gparted from the system
[23:39] <holyhell> i want to use bootcamp
[23:40] <PhantomFreak> mgreen was just copying them... CIFS VFS: Send error in SETFSUnixInfo=-5.... CIFS VFS: Negotiating Unix Capabilities with the server failed.... Consider mounting with Unix Extensions... Malformed FILE_UNIX_BASIC_INFO... Mount error 20
[23:40] <MISI> nickrud, but the other files of tcl wher ecan i find? :/
[23:40] <nickrud> MISI,  dpkg -L <packagename> lists all the files from the package
[23:40] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: try sudo apt-get remove vesa
[23:40] <freexe> teq, nothing at the moment. Before it with giving me a really weird error about mount points not have \n chars
[23:40] <ekow> i have my ubuntu laptop hooked up to the internet via ethernet cable, how do i install ndiswrapper?
[23:40] <mgreen> PhantomFreak: i guess you've googled this?
[23:40] <Pelo> holyhell, from the live desktop , top bar, menu > system> administration > gnome parttion editor
[23:41] <PhantomFreak> yeh... But pretty useless!
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> marko_; you'll need to have a subtitle file in the same directory as the movie .. under view>subtitle  ... you will be able to select it
[23:41] <erUSUL> Pelo: try this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29772/
[23:41] <mgreen> PhantomFreak: perhaps there is a firmware upgrade? is it an old piece of hardware?
[23:41] <Vamkiir> meh
[23:41] <MISI> nickrud, god bless you :-)
[23:41] <zvacet> holyhell : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto I hope it will help you
[23:41] <PhantomFreak> mgreen no only about 9 months!
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> ekow; sudo aptitude instal ndiswrapper
[23:41] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: pkg not found
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> s/instal/install
[23:41] <Vamkiir> why is #ubuntu-java always so innactive >_<
[23:41] <PhantomFreak> mgreen looked for firmware before but not come accross anything useful!
[23:42] <BrandonS> rockenrola1,  It worked thanks very much
[23:42] <holyhell> @ pelo are you talking mac os x, cause thats what i am starting off with
[23:42] <AMDpenguin> how do i make symbolic links?
[23:42] <holyhell> thx @ zvacet its loading ;)
[23:42] <mgreen> PhantomFreak: i've never heard of this problem, and since you've googled for this already, i don't know what to do next
[23:42] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: are you sure removing vesa will help?
[23:42] <marko_> bastid_raZor, thanks
[23:43] <mgreen> PhantomFreak: it sounds like there is a problem with the SMB/CIFS implementation of your appliance
[23:43] <Pelo> holyhell, I was talking about the live desktop from the ubuntu instal cd
[23:43] <holyhell> ah okay
[23:43] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: well it doesnt work
[23:43] <holyhell> so i gotta create the partition first!
[23:43] <nickrud> AMDpenguin,   ln -s <target> <destination>
[23:43] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: try switching drivers then
[23:43] <AMDpenguin> thanks
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> AMDpenguin; ln -s location/of/fileordirectory what/the/name/is
[23:43] <holyhell> how much is the recommendation for allocating room?
[23:43] <powertoo108> Is truecrypt not in the repo's anymore? Building tag database... Done
[23:43] <powertoo108> No candidate version found for truecrypt
[23:43] <ekow> bastid: Thanks!
[23:43] <connyosis> mgreen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29770/
[23:43] <PhantomFreak> mgreen Oh well, thanks for help!
[23:43] <nickrud> powertoo108, nope it isn't
[23:44] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: what do you think about envy?
[23:44] <holyhell> and do i just need one partition, because i remember with suse linux a couple years ago u needed an extra parition or something
[23:44] <mgreen> connyosis: i'll post you one back in a second
[23:44] <bastid_raZor> ekow; nickrud is correct too :)
[23:44] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: what card do u have?
[23:44] <powertoo108> nickrud: was it replaced by something better?
[23:44] <connyosis> mgreen: thanks
[23:44] <vices> i am trying to rar a file into multiple volumes, but I cannot figure out how to read this:  v<size>[k,b]  Create volumes with size=<size>*1000 [*1024, *1]
[23:44] <zvacet> holyhell : how much free space do you have and how much you want to dedicate to Ubuntu
[23:44] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: nvidia geforce 6200 AGP
[23:44] <jon_high9000> pelo: I took it upon myself to check if compiz was installed or no.
[23:44] <teq> hey freexe try this http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[23:44] <blario6> how do install radeon drivers?
[23:44] <holyhell> i have quite a bit
[23:44] <holyhell> i am thinking between 6-10 gigs
[23:45] <holyhell> if thats enough
[23:45] <nickrud> powertoo108, not that I found when I was setting up an encrypted partition a few days ago. Ended up doing it all manually
[23:45] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: it should work, wait a sec
[23:45] <Pelo> jon_high9000, sudo apt-get install compiz
[23:45] <holyhell> is it space intensive? " zvacet
[23:45] <Raz0R> can anyone tell me why im hanging at boot? its hanging at the part where it says "setting the system clock"? thanks.
[23:45] <StuckMojo> what's the easiest way to enable compvis in Hardy?
[23:45] <jon_high9000> pelo already installed.
[23:46] <awmcclain> What's the apt command to update a single package?
[23:46] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: try sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[23:46] <MuzikJunkie2> StuckMojo: Do you have the compiz config manager installed?
[23:46] <StuckMojo> MuzikJunkie2: not unless it comes by default
[23:46] <Raz0R> awmcclain compiz --replace
[23:46] <Pelo> jon_high9000,  enable it from menu > system> prefs > apperance , last tab
[23:46] <Pelo> need to reboot , brb
[23:46] <Raz0R> awmcclain sorry, alt + f2 then compiz --replace
[23:47] <zvacet> holyhell : just a sec
[23:47] <holyhell> sure thx
[23:47] <thorny_sun> anyone recommend a decent css/html wysiwyg editor?
[23:47] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: command nto found
[23:47] <awmcclain> Raz0R: I'm not using compiz. And I'm running on a command line.
[23:47] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: mhh ok wait
[23:47] <Raz0R> oops
[23:47] <StuckMojo> oh, and will it run with openbox?
[23:48] <Raz0R> lol
[23:48] <StuckMojo> or do you have to run crap ass metacity
[23:48] <Mr_Fixit> ok so i went through the forums and the #eggdrop room... not much help there..
[23:48] <Vamkiir> @thorny_sun I think bluefish editor is ok...
[23:48] <zvacet> holyhell :  http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/installing#partitioning   see first option
[23:48] <Mr_Fixit> can someone help me configure an eggdrop?
[23:48] <MuzikJunkie2> StuckMojo: its not default.  install the compiz-settings-manager using synaptic...or you can right click on the desktop -> change background -> visual effects
[23:48] <vices> i am trying to rar a file into multiple volumes, but I cannot figure out how to read this:  v<size>[k,b]  Create volumes with size=<size>*1000 [*1024, *1]
[23:48] <AMDpenguin> I love how ubuntu can detect my 2 cpu cores where windows cant it only sees one core =D
[23:48] <legend2440> Raz0R: right click the time date icon on top right panel then select adjust time and date and see if  it say Keep synchronized with servers. if it does change it to manual and see if that speeds things up
[23:49] <freexe> teq, yeah I can't seem to mount it at all. It's pretty messed up
[23:49] <antisense> Can someone remind me which environment variable I need to change when I need to add a path to look for (.so) libraries (without using ldconfig)?
[23:49] <zvacet> holyhell : or you can do manual way
[23:49] <binskipy2u> hey guys, any REAL advantage of 64bit over 32bit besides seeing all your ram if you have over 3.5 gigs?
[23:49] <binskipy2u> performance wise?
[23:49] <teq> freexe: what about the link i just gave u? didnt work?
[23:49] <Gnuyen> Is there an 2.6.24-18-generic virtual box module in your packages list?
[23:49] <ProwL> Mr_Fixit: I really recommend http://egghelp.org for setting up an eggdrop.
[23:49] <freexe> teq, nope :(
[23:49] <AMDpenguin> binskipy- not really
[23:49] <ryan____> so, i'm an idiot and installed a cli barebones ubuntu. then i install xserver-xorg-core, fluxbox, and gdm. then i rebooted.
[23:49] <playya> hi
[23:50] <ryan____> now i have no terminal?
[23:50] <Mr_Fixit> ok i'll try it..
[23:50] <holyhell> yo zvacet i only have mac os x currently
[23:50] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: how did u install vesa driver?
[23:50] <ryan____> and i can't run any commands
[23:50] <mgreen> connyosis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29777/ - backup as usual
[23:50] <Mr_Fixit> i think i was there...
[23:50] <AMDpenguin> i think you will get 30% boost in encoding
[23:50] <freexe> teq, the weird thing is that gparted is crashing if I try and format it as well
[23:50] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: i didnt it comes stock
[23:50] <connyosis> mgreen: thanks, I'll try it out
[23:50]  * StuckMojo prepares to crash his box...
[23:50] <holyhell> but i wanna have a triple boot eventually, so ubutunu and maybe win xp, because i might need it for uni or so
[23:50] <Raz0R> legend2440 its not synched to server
[23:50] <ProwL> Mr_Fixit: it has explanations of most every setting and will walk you through it.
[23:50] <binskipy2u> will 32bit see 3 cores? i have a triple core computer
[23:50] <mgreen> connyosis: i couldn't test this, naturally. i slaughtered your config ;) if this doesn't work, there are other ways
[23:50] <Ionstorm66> hello
[23:51] <zvacet> holyhell : it is about making partitions so it should be the same I have to say that I never used Mac but still...
[23:51] <windmill> hi, since I upgraded to Hardy my wireless card is really slow, it's rt2500 based and there is a post on the forums from 2006. the wiki says it should work out of the box
[23:51] <teq> freexe: lemme see what we can do
[23:51] <ryan____> how can i get to a terminal if i have fluxbox installed, and no terminal emulators installed? can i bypass or shutdown X without it going back to GDM automatically?
[23:51] <vices> i am trying to rar a file into multiple volumes, but I cannot figure out how to read this:  v<size>[k,b]  Create volumes with size=<size>*1000 [*1024, *1]
[23:51] <newbiehere> exit
[23:51] <AMDpenguin> Will i see a speed boost going quad core from dual core?
[23:51] <freexe> teq, It all started when I tried to change the Label, can I reset that somewhere?
[23:51] <playya> why are the libicalss*.h headers included in the libical*.h header but not included in libecal1.2-dev
[23:51] <les> AMDpenguin: for most things no. for some things a great deal of speed increase
[23:52] <holyhell> allright so the one empty partition should be fat32 or ntfs?
[23:52] <binskipy2u> im just having issues w/multimedia on sites etc w/64bit
[23:52] <binskipy2u> not enough codecs
[23:52] <connyosis> mgreen: well it's worth a try. back in a bit
[23:52] <ryan____> how can i kill X completely without going back to GDM
[23:52] <AMDpenguin> does the app have to be written to take advantage of muticore cpus?
[23:52] <binskipy2u> so besides losing 500mb of ram.. will there be any negative effects using 32 bit on a triple core amd 8450 computer?
[23:52] <zvacet> holyhell : ext3 is Ubuntu file format
[23:52] <SeveredCross> ryan____: C-A-F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:52] <antisense> Anyone? Environment variable which I can create to make the system search for .so's in a certain path? :)
[23:52] <ryan____> SeverdCross: thanks
[23:52] <bastid_raZor> ryan____; ctrl alt backspace should kill it but it automatically reloads the defualt back
[23:52] <Ionstorm66> I have an hp laptop with lightscribe. Ive got the drivers and the simple labeler installed. It detects my drive and says that the burn is successful, but the disk is still blank.
[23:53] <legend2440> Raz0R: did you read that message about setting time on screen as it was booting? or in log file?
[23:53] <petersaints> what's the best way to get Java plugin working on 64-bit Hardy??
[23:53] <teq> freexe: try unpulggin it wait 5mins and plug it again, it should be recognized
[23:53] <holyhell> kk thx @ zvacet i shall let u know how it goes :D
[23:53] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: how did u install the vesa driver?
[23:53] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: i did not specifically install it
[23:53] <holyhell> i am just gonna f* around and see what happens
[23:53] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: its standard
[23:53] <AMDpenguin> is the 8450 a phenom?
[23:53] <zvacet> holyhell :O.K.
[23:53] <madenci38> turk yokmu
[23:53] <freexe> teq, if I plug in my other usb storage it picks it up
[23:54] <Dein> any way to stop mouse from leaving display 1 when near right border of the screen while playing games? i mean, is there a way to lock the mouse to the display 1?
[23:54] <binskipy2u> ok , will 32bit see all 3 cores just like 64bit ubuntu? i know it will "miss" 500mb of ram.. thats' ok as long as i dont have to worry bout "force" installing some of my favorite things
[23:54] <madenci38> turk yokmu
[23:54] <Mr_Fixit> ok so how do i access telnet?
[23:54] <binskipy2u> wont it use the same restricted video drivers whether its 32 or 64bit
[23:54] <MuzikJunkie2> teq: this card is driving me crazy
[23:54] <nickrud> petersaints, using a 32bit version of firefox
[23:55] <freexe> teq, thanks for the help. I'll take it home with me and try it on another computer
[23:55] <tmc_> hey all
[23:55] <tmc_> can somebody help me with how to share a folder at my ubuntu desktop ?
[23:55] <Ionstorm66> I have an hp laptop with lightscribe. Ive got the drivers and the simple labeler installed. It detects my drive and says that the burn is successful, but the disk is still blank.
[23:55] <nickrud> binskipy2u, it should, if you boot the live cd and do cat /proc/cpuinfo , you should see all three processors
[23:56] <tmc_> i want to let people dll files off my shared folder could some help me out?
[23:56] <Raz0R> legend2440 as it was booting
[23:56] <binskipy2u> so besides missing 500mb ram, it should be damn near the same
[23:56] <teq> freexe: k
[23:56] <binskipy2u> i have a nice setup, but printer, scanner wont work
[23:56] <binskipy2u> when i know they work in 32bit
[23:56] <amenado> tmc_-> you can run an sftp server
[23:56] <teq> MuzikJunkie2: then after installing nvidia-glx-new restart, and try to use compiz
[23:56] <Mr_Fixit> anyone give me a hint on how to access telnet??
[23:56] <tmc_> how
[23:56] <binskipy2u> cause the forums said so.. but in 64bit you force install, and it doesnt work even though the forc einstall went thru
[23:56] <tmc_> i want it from my pc
[23:57] <nickrud> binskipy2u, if you use the -server version of the kernel, it should also see the lost memory
[23:57] <tmc_> amenado could u help me a little bit:D?
[23:57] <binskipy2u> nickrud, even on 32bit?
[23:57] <amenado> tmc_-> id like you to read up a little bit about serving services..google for ubuntu and vsftp please
[23:57] <nickrud> binskipy2u, if you have pae hardware that is
[23:57] <tmc_>  ubuntu and vsftp that i have to search :D?
[23:57] <binskipy2u> pae?
[23:58] <connyosis> mgreen: it worked great. thanks
[23:58] <tmc_> ok i will look if i cant get out i can ask here again :D?
[23:58] <amenado> tmc_ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-vsftpd-ftp-service-server/
[23:58] <mgreen> connyosis: nice! what i did was to clean up your configuration. please look a the difference
[23:58] <tmc_> cool mate
[23:58] <tmc_> really thank u
[23:58] <teq> hi! i recently installed firefox 3 on my system but i cant get the shortcuts to work, even if i type "firefox" in terminal it executes the old version, how can i fix this? thanks!
[23:58] <nickrud> binskipy2u, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[23:58] <david_> Hi everyone! I'm new to Linux. Can anyone help me with a very simple question for he experts!!! I have a Nero for Linux file in "downloads" How can I install it?
[23:58] <connyosis> mgreen: i will. nice worl
[23:58] <connyosis> *work
[23:59] <amenado> tmc_-> read up on in a little bit and come back to discuss if you're stuck
[23:59] <tmc_> can people of my msn reach it to if i give them permition
[23:59] <david_> Is there a general rule for installing new downloads
[23:59] <tmc_> yeah thnx
[23:59] <connyosis> now, time for bed
[23:59] <binskipy2u> thanks
[23:59] <tmc_> thanks amenado
[23:59] <nickrud> teq, how did you install firefox 3, on what version?
[23:59] <amenado> tmc_-> you're welcome.
[23:59] <mgreen> connyosis: i removed the last parts of your configuration (which seemed auto generated). please read up on xorg configuration if run into similar problems in the future. happy camping :)
[23:59] <zvacet> david_ : if it is bin file just double click on it
[23:59] <Mr_Fixit> !telnet > Mr_Fixit
[23:59] <glitsj16> teq: thet start commanf for firefox 3 is "firefox-3.0"
[23:59] <unop> david_, the nero site should have instructions