[11:21] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, i fixed it, seems ubuntu and win doesnt like my front usb drives
[11:21] <magnuso> arnducky, i tried soundrecorder what comes with ubuntu but id dont have anything to select under input device, and i tried skype but it dont even give me any mic settings
[11:21] <Lewis> it does say sonething about cannot create dev/X on there
[11:21] <Farhan> wasn't there a ubuntu path a couple weeks ago that broke the x-windows-systems?
[11:21] <fredl> Lewis, FYI, that's not normal, so you probably did something wrong.
[11:21] <Farhan> patch
[11:21] <Asc> silent_scream: what's it showing right now, if not english characters?
[11:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> when i use a screensaver, or even preview them, my system locks up..
[11:21] <magnuso> arnducky, and im hearing the sound directly on the speakers
[11:21] <Lewis> I have no idea what I must have done wrong because it worked fine last night
[11:22] <arnducky> magnuso, wa the SB Live card already installed when you installed those apps?
[11:22] <silent_scream> Asc, no some chinese :p
[11:22] <Farhan> Lewis when was the last time you updated before tonight?
[11:22] <Arcad3> where i can find xlibs package?
[11:22] <silent_scream> export_lang something
[11:22] <silent_scream> i can't remember
[11:22] <magnuso> arnducky, ya it was in the box when i installed Ubuntu
[11:22] <Arcad3> what repository?
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i fix it, im not sure whats wrong.
[11:22] <Asc> silent_scream: Ookay.  Uh, try going to the menu, then options -> preferences -> fonts
[11:23] <TheH> is asking me to enter video card bus identifier
[11:23] <Lewis> I installed Ubuntu last night, then followed some instructions by someone from here to setup my network, that worked and i was able to login/logout after i did that, and I have not updated at all yet
[11:23] <TheH> ?
[11:23] <fredl> Lewis, I'll try to walk you through this. hit q to get out of less.
[11:23] <arnducky> magnuso, if you can playback your voice, then obviously the sound server and alsa are fine -- try reinstalling an app and see what happens (remove it completely first including config files)
[11:23] <silent_scream> yeap i cant Asc i cant read the characters man
[11:23] <magnuso> arnducky, had a internal and a Audigy2 card when i installed but i disabled the internal now but still no input from the Audigy card
[11:23] <Lewis> Ok, done that
[11:23] <Asc> silent_scream: oh, an actual command.  Probably out of my league.
[11:23] <fredl> Lewis, you'll have a prompt then. On the prompt, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:23] <kraut> moin
[11:24] <magnuso> arnducky, unless it just playbacking when i say directly in the card without anything to do with the drivers
[11:24] <Lewis> Ok, i've typed that in
[11:24] <arnducky> magnuso, so how are you recording your voice?  What do you mean 'no input from the Audigy"
[11:24] <TheH> Ubuntu configuration is asking me to enter video card bus identifier??
[11:25] <Arcad3> just press enter
[11:25] <fredl> Lewis, now try typing startx
[11:25] <Arcad3> until the end
[11:25] <Lewis> a blank screen with a cross-type mouse
[11:25] <magnuso> arnducky, im not recording anything, its giving beck what i say live
[11:25] <ISOLATEDViRuS> can someone help me?
[11:26] <TheH> ok what if I want to have both a lc monitor and my lcd HDTV runing at the same time?
[11:26] <Farhan> fredl, could Lewis have gotten that bad patch that accidentially broke systems a couple weeks ago?
[11:26] <arnducky> you mean you can hear your voice over your speakers coming back at yoiu when you speak into the mic?
[11:26] <magnuso> aye
[11:26] <fredl> Lewis, that's not good. you should get a window manager running. Does the left/right mouse button do anything?
[11:27] <Lewis> nothing
[11:27] <acollins> does anyone know how to change gnome's mime type mappings in edgy?
[11:27] <fredl> Farhan, nope. If that's what he had, X windows wouldn't start up
[11:27] <acollins> i'd like to use acroread instead of gpdf for pdfs
[11:27] <fredl> Lewis, okay that's bad. Kill X windows again by pressn CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[11:27] <magnuso> arnducky, but no app i tried so far can find a sound input from a card
[11:27] <Lewis> ok, done that
[11:27] <Farhan> ahh right then, can someone explain what a window manager is? would gdm be a window manager?
[11:28] <arnducky> I know this seems silly, but have you checked to see if your mic is in the line-in port instead of the mic port (red or pink on an audigy card))
[11:28] <fredl> Farhan, nope. GDM is the Gnome Display Manager
[11:28] <fredl> Farhan, and a display is something other than a Window :)
[11:28] <Farhan> i'm not too ood with gui stuff yet i've only use command line when i've used linux the gui is new to me.
[11:28] <Asc> silent_scream: This probably won't help, but try going to the 'fonts' option tab, unchecking the first button, and checking the second.  And, like, pressing apply.
[11:28] <Farhan> right so whatis the default window manager that comes with ubuntu?
[11:28] <magnuso> arnducky, haha i better do that i havent actually checked since i hear myself :P sec
[11:28] <Lewis> I now have the terminal screen now. What shall I type into it?
[11:28] <jack_> where to find an old version of the package?
[11:29] <Arcad3> TheH:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[11:29] <Kendjar> ya un francais ici ?
[11:29] <magnuso> arnducky, ya it is :)
[11:29] <fredl> Lewis, you could try to recover by using sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <Farhan> fredl i didn't even know there was a --reinstall command, lol i'm an idiot
[11:30] <magical_trevsky> !fr
[11:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:30] <magnuso> arnducky, and i can adjust the volume when i change "mic" in sounds settings also so it works that much :/ its strange and i start to get really tired of this now
[11:30] <fredl> Farhan, neither did I until recently.
[11:30] <Farhan> oh oh, now i don't feel so bad. feh.
[11:31] <arnducky> magnuso, I really have no clue at this point but if it were me, I'd try reinstalling apps -- then if that doesn't work reinstall alsa
[11:31] <Lewis> ok, i have put the CD in the CD drive and its now installing
[11:31] <magnuso> arnducky, can it be that i run AMD64 version of ubuntu ? some driver that aint working well ?
[11:31] <dhen_bagoest> hai..
[11:31] <Farhan> fredl you running 6.06 or are you running edgy?
[11:31] <Lewis> Ok, its finished now
[11:31] <arnducky> magnuso, anything is 'possible' but I highly doubt it
[11:31] <silent_scream> Asc, i can't read re menus!!! its in like "???!#@ !? ??!232"
[11:31] <fredl> Farhan, the default Ubuntu wndow manager is (I believe) gnome-session but there's lots of parts to gnome
[11:31] <Farhan> oh
[11:31] <fredl> Lewis, so that worked?
[11:32] <magnuso> arnducky, under proc/sounds can i see "inputs" there somehow? if its missing there i can atleast understand no app finds it
[11:32] <fredl> Lewis, try running /etc/init.d/gdm start then
[11:32] <magnuso> asounds*
[11:32] <kzx> Im connected to another machine with ssh -X and can start X apps. But what about those already running on the remote machine? Can I move them to my display??
[11:32] <Farhan> aptitude seems better then apt-get in a way, but i'm not sure how, maybe apitutde just gets all the suggested packages automaticly.
[11:32] <Farhan> or something
[11:32] <fredl> kzm_, nope.
[11:32] <Farhan> i still want to fix my sound problem.
[11:33] <Arcad3> kzx:use remote desktop connection
[11:33] <arnducky> hmmm -- try apt-get install awesfx   (a utilities package for emu10k1)
[11:33] <fredl> kzm, not to my knowledge at least :)
[11:33] <Farhan> fredl you no anythign about playing multiple sounds ?
[11:34] <Lewis> I did /etc/init.d/gdm start and it came up with failed
[11:34] <Asc> silent_scream: Okay.  Open the menu.  'options' is the fourth entry from the bottom.  It'll open a submenu, and preferences is the first entry on that
[11:34] <magnuso> will try that, file "capture-rates" gives me 4 no input if that helps
[11:34] <silent_scream> Asc, what is the shortkey i must press to open the menu?
[11:34] <Farhan> silent_scream ctrl alt f1
[11:34] <Asc> silent_scream: just click at the top-left of the window
[11:34] <Farhan> crap
[11:34] <Asc> or do like he said
[11:34] <Farhan> altf1
[11:34] <Farhan> i ment alt f1
[11:34] <Farhan> sory
[11:34] <fredl> Lewis, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, sorry
[11:34] <fredl> Lewis, need to be root to start up gdm
[11:34] <Farhan> i'm really tired or something, tonight i think i'm out, i think its time for bed.
[11:34] <fredl> Farhan, playing multiple sounds?
[11:35] <Farhan> yeah
[11:35] <Asc> Once you get there, 'fonts' is the sixth tab from the left
[11:35] <fredl> Farhan, explain..
[11:35] <Farhan> my screenreader can't talk and me can't listen to music or anything at the same time, i use gnome-orca for my screenreader.
[11:35] <fredl> Farhan, sorry, I have no experience with that.
[11:35] <Asc> Farnham: what program are you using for music?
[11:35] <Farhan> and yasr when i'm the cli
[11:35] <Lewis> I have done what you told me to do and its taken me back to the login screen
[11:35] <Farhan> mplayer?
[11:36] <fredl> Lewis, try to login again, maybe your ubuntu-desktop has been fixed with the --reinstall
[11:36] <Asc> *Farhan: Okay.  You need to install ALSA-dev and compiile it with the --enable-alsa option
[11:36] <magnuso> arnducky, thank you for your time, ill try dig deeper into this, seems to be a so simple thing when the rest is working but ohwell ..
[11:36] <Lewis> Still doesn't login, blank screen...
[11:36] <Asc> Or whatever the heck library is equivalent to ALSA-dev these days
[11:36] <silent_scream> Asc, ok the fonts which tab is it?
[11:36] <Farhan> so what i instlal th alsa-dev  lib and then say what?
[11:36] <arnducky> look in devices
[11:36] <Farhan> uh?
[11:37] <Farhan> recompile it?
[11:37] <fredl> Lewis, Hmmm. Lemme think...
[11:37] <Asc> silent_scream:sixth tab from the left
[11:37] <_mason> in bash I have a string of a filename (/foo/bar) how can i print only the filename bar?
[11:37] <fredl> Lewis, at the login window there's a button in the left corner that says 'options'
[11:37] <arnducky> magnuso, do you have this line: "24: [0- 0] : digital audio capture"
[11:37] <fredl> Lewis, in the session type, make sure you select GNOME
[11:38] <fdoving> _mason: where do you have the /foo/bar string?
[11:38] <Asc> Farhan: To the best of my knowledge, the default mplayer does not have ALSA support, so you have to recompile it
[11:38] <fredl> Lewis, then try to log in again.
[11:38] <MrNaz> ive just installed an ubuntu box, i have an nvidia card in it, but i only get 640, 800 and 1024 resolutions... i have a widescreen monitor, a 2405fpw dell, and i want to run it in 1920x1200
[11:38] <Farhan> what, recompile mplayer or alsa.
[11:38] <MrNaz> is this even possible?
[11:38] <Farhan> hmmm i thought it did, i though everything used lsa.
[11:38] <Asc> Farhan: so you have to recompile.  And when you configure it, you need to tell it to enable alsa
[11:38] <fdoving> !resolution
[11:38] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:38] <Asc> Farhan: mplayer
[11:38] <fdoving> MrNaz: ^^
[11:38] <_mason> fdoving: Just a string e.g. $filepath
[11:38] <Farhan> oh. strange.
[11:39] <Farhan> i think it probably has somethign to do with gnome-orca i'm using also
[11:39] <fredl> Lewis, what session types does it show anyways?
[11:39] <Farhan> because i can't here orca when a gaim sound plays an i no gaim uses alsa.
[11:39] <Lewis> ok, i've chosen GNOME
[11:39] <Asc> farhan: should go something like "./configure --enable-alsa"
[11:39] <arnducky> Asc: won't the oss wrapper for alsa work?
[11:40] <Lewis> shall i try to login now?
[11:40] <arnducky> I've got mplayer on this machine and it works -- was not a custom compile
[11:40] <fredl> Lewis, yup. If it still won't work, repeat and try other session types.
[11:40] <_mason> fdoving: Do you know how?
[11:40] <Asc> arnducky: I don't know much about that.  I do know that the last time I used a default mplayer, it couldn't use sound at the same time as other programs
[11:40] <fdoving> _mason: ok. if you have filepath=/bar/foo you can use for example:  echo $filepath|cut -d / -f 3
[11:41] <Farhan> i think it still has to be a gnome-orca problem or an yasr problem. you need eflite to get yasr to work maybe someone can help me figure this out.
[11:41] <_mason> Thankyou
[11:41] <Farhan> if i could get that working, i'd be hapy
[11:41] <Farhan> happy
[11:41] <Lewis> GNOME doesn't work
[11:41] <fredl> Farhan, in System -> Preferences -> Sound, do you have Enable software sound mixing (ESD) enabled?
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> MrNaz: sure its possible, install the binary drivers for nivida
[11:42] <fdoving> _mason: that would only work for /bar/foo not for /zoo/bar/foo as it uses / as it's delimiter.
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > MrNaz
[11:42] <fredl> Lewis, what other choices for session types do you have?
[11:42] <Farhan> i should
[11:42] <Farhan> its enabled by default right?
[11:42] <fredl> Yeah I think so.
[11:42] <sky123> Hey guys...I started playing around with some email servers for ubuntu....and cam across zimbra. I have it properly installed on dapper and the original setup is for debian 3.1....it works really really well. :)
[11:42] <arnducky> kewl -- I just found a button in alsamixergui that reads the /proc/asound files into one neatly organized page
[11:43] <fdoving> _mason: you can use it with a few revs that might be more failure proof echo $filepath|rev|cut -d / -f 1|rev
[11:43] <sky123> anybody using it??
[11:43] <Farhan> i'll be back in five hours. its sleeping time.
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> _mason: basename
[11:43] <arnducky> It's the 'Alsa' logo (I thought it was just a logo and never tried clicking it before)
[11:43] <ingsoc> How do I install themes for windowmaker?
[11:43] <fdoving> sky123: never heard of it, where did you find it?
[11:43] <_mason> Wooo, fdoving Thankyou very much
[11:44] <_mason> the rev's worked
[11:44] <juggernaut1980> i keep gettin an error when i install these packages.
[11:44] <fdoving> _mason: rev can be very helpfull :)
[11:44] <spinz8r> How to safely uninstall Ubuntu?
[11:44] <fredl> Lewis, there should also be a 'failsafe' session type I believe. it looks ugly but will let you start up things.
[11:44] <kzx> _mason, check out the basename command like fyrestrtr said
[11:44] <sky123> fdoving: well go to - zimbra.com....it will blow you away how sweet their integration pieces are...i am going to consider this my next project
[11:44] <_mason> basename ?
[11:44] <_mason> how do i use that
[11:45] <_mason> basename $string
[11:45] <_mason> ?
[11:45] <fdoving> spinz8r: delete the partitions and restore your mbr from within whatever operatingsystem you'll be downgrading to.
[11:45] <Lewis> I can use GNOME, Defauly System Session, Failsafe GNOME, Failsafe Terminal
[11:45] <kzx> basename $var
[11:45] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, pastebin the error message, then paste the URL that pastebin gives you back in here
[11:45] <sky123> fdoving: and no i dont work for em...this is a shameless plug..
[11:45] <era86> is there anyone that can help me with the install i plan to do with a server install?
[11:45] <sky123> lol
[11:45] <juggernaut1980> how do i use pastebin?
[11:45] <fredl> Lewis, try if Failsafe GNOME works. after that, try Failsafe terminal
[11:45] <sky123> !pastebin
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:45] <arnducky> !pastebin
[11:45] <quilty> Any dual ppc user around? I did the normal installation from the live cd and ubuntu is only using 1 of my 2 cpu's (G4 MDD).
[11:45] <sky123> haha beat you to it...just kidding
[11:45] <fdoving> sky123: can it in any way compare to postfix? that's the question
[11:46] <Lewis> failsafe GNOME did not work
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> quilty: you need to install the smp kernel
[11:46] <sky123> fdoving: it uses postfix
[11:46] <sky123> ;)
[11:46] <Arcad3> can someone give me a link to xlibs for dapper drake 6.06?
[11:46] <quilty> fyrestrtr: any page available where it's explained how to do it?
[11:46] <fredl> Lewis, wow, you seem to really be having a GNOME issue there :) anyway, the Failsafe Terminal session type *should* work
[11:46] <TheH> How do I know if I'm running nvidia driver that I just installed? I don;t see anything under display satting?
[11:47] <_mason> kzx fyrestrtr fdoving : basename works perfectly, but fdoving i will need the |cut you just showed me in a few moments anyway :P Thank you all
[11:47] <stefg> quilty: and check if gnome-system-monitor isn't fooling you (in case you use that). rather see dmesg if only one cpu is used
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> quilty: just search for a smp kernel in repos, then install it via apt-get and reboot.
[11:47] <arnducky> quilty in Debian you jsut find the kernel package and install the SMP kernel -- even lilo and grub should be updated
[11:47] <sky123> !fglrx
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <TheH> I have done that
[11:47] <quilty> fyrestrtr: thanks, will do so
[11:47] <fredl> Lewis, when you have the failsafe terminal session going you should be able to get a browser started. you may need to experiment a little with the mouse buttons so see how you can start up things though
[11:47] <Steven_M> does anyone know why the screen resolution is different if I start fluxbox using startx -- :1 than when I start it through kdm?
[11:48] <sky123> TheH: I guess rnning glxgears or that tron game..lol..see if 3d works..
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> Steven_M: probably because you aren't using the same xorg.conf file.
[11:48] <arnducky> Steven_M, obviously kdm is passing an argument to startx
[11:48] <Lewis> ok, i have a little terminal window on my screen in the bottom right now
[11:48] <fredl> sky123, it looks to me like zimbra isn't free software.
[11:49] <fredl> Lewis, in that terminal window type firefox&
[11:49] <TheH> damn I don't know what I'm doing, just fallowing directions to get drivers to work
[11:49] <sky123> fredl: check the opensource version ;)
[11:49] <Lewis> Firefox just appeared
[11:49] <seth_> After upgrading Dapper I get the famous error "Cannot open '/dev/pg*'" from cdrecord. I have been checking the forums but get conflicting info from them (I'm using an ata drive). Does anyone know how this should be setup?
[11:49] <TheH> on fedora I get nvidia display config windows
[11:50] <fredl> !paste
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <TheH> there is no such think on ubuntu?
[11:50] <Arcad3> no
[11:50] <fredl> okay Lewis, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and see if you can figure out how to cut & paste the contents of your .xsession-errors file in there, you think you can do that?
[11:51] <stefg> TheH: relax :-) the nvidia-control-applet is a seperate download. just see glxinfo | grep direct to verify your D is working
[11:52] <stefg> *3d
[11:52] <TheH> ok thx, how do I get to that game? damn I feel so dumb here lol
[11:52] <Arcad3> why does anyone answeres my question?
[11:52] <SpaceFrog> hi guys.
[11:52] <SpaceFrog> ATI drivers are killing me :(
[11:53] <fredl> sky123, is the opensource version GPLv2?
[11:53] <SpaceFrog> I've spent 7 hours trying to figure this out
[11:53] <Steven_M> ok, where abouts do I set it in xorg.conf file? It usaully has a number of resolution settings and I never know which one to alter
[11:53] <Lewis> how do i get to my .xsession-errors file up?
[11:53] <TheH> nvidia ones are killing me lol
[11:53] <SpaceFrog> lol
[11:53] <stefg> TheH: have you already done anything to install the proprietary Nvidia-driver?
[11:53] <chillmode> ok i installed ubuntu on my laptop but the screensavers moves very slow. can i be a problem with the gfx drivers or  is this normal?
[11:53] <fredl> Lewis, you can open up another terminal window by typing gnome-terminal& in the first window
[11:53] <TheH> yes I did all of it
[11:54] <sky123> fredl: ill have to check on that...but it does have some info on what the opensource version is on the website...so ill have to search for it..
[11:54] <TheH> I shouyld have it now
[11:54] <fredl> Lewis, make that second terminal window larger and do less .xsession-errors in it
[11:54] <fredl> Lewis, go to the end of the file with shift-G again
[11:54] <stefg> TheH: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:54] <fredl> Lewis, en paste the last chunk of what you see on the screen to pastebin
[11:54] <seth_> Arcad3: Most questions get ignored from this channel. What was your question?
[11:55] <fredl> sky123, it looks like there's a whole slew of licenses.
[11:56] <juggernaut1980> i hope this worked.  here's the pastebin location for the error i'm getting:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24488
[11:56] <fredl> sky123, they have something called the 'Zimbra Public License' which is 'based on' the mozilla public license.
[11:56] <_mason> kzx fyrestrtr fdoving : With your help i was able to finish my nautilus-script to convert bin/cue to iso/cdr Would you like a copy? or see it?
[11:56] <TheH> I have already downloaded the drivers, install them, then I did the linux-restricted-modules
[11:57] <sky123> fredl: yeah that license is actually pretty nice...the freeswitch guys are on that too... the fork from asterisk..
[11:57] <SpaceFrog> WHy is it that when i run fglrxinfo, it says stuff about Mesa3D project or something rather than ATI?
[11:57] <TheH> then I got an error so I went and did  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:57] <fredl> sky123, I frequently find that I don't like vendor specific diversions of the GPL.
[11:57] <stefg> TheH: the one-liner to get 3D: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[11:58] <phreakys_> how do i disable acpi?
[11:58] <TheH> but after doing ctrl atl backspace I did not see any nvidia logo
[11:58] <justthisguy> Hi guys, I've recently (finally!) upgraded to dapper with apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade, and a coupla things have broke. My nic and soundcard stopped working, though I've found the right modules to insmod and theyre working ok now, just that I have to run several commands every time I boot. I could write a script, but wheres the best ( ie most standard ) place to put it? Also, suddenly beep-media-player is really slo
[11:58] <justthisguy> own the computer. Finally, does anyone know the module for a microshaft wireless notebook optical mouse? Many thanks in advance
[11:58] <Lewis> i get an error in the white terminal and a black box appears when i type in gnome-terminal&
[11:58] <mybers> hello everyone! just like to ask how can you make the gdm/x server start autmatically again from booting up with console?
[11:58] <stefg> TheH: that's fine... the new versions don't show it anymore
[11:58] <larsemil> wich flight is edgy now?
[11:58] <sky123> fredl: agreed..but once i am done with the rest of the setup...i want to see what these people have come up with...some features look nice..and the ajax based zimlets are pretty cool.
[11:59] <fredl> sky123, so I only use applications with such licenses when I really have to. I know the GPL is subject of scrutiny by many people and legal support by the FSF if neccesary. This is not the case for vendor specific diversions.
[11:59] <SpaceFrog> how can  i find out what driver my vid card is using?
[11:59] <mybers> instead of being booted/started w/ only console...it will start ghe gdm right away
[12:00] <larsemil> SpaceFrog, glx_info
[12:00] <mybers> gdm rather
[12:00] <fredl> Lewis hmmm. Do sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[12:00] <TheH> so I should have it then.  I installed ubuntu on a server, that before was running crux, everthing worked well, but after I saw that the backup I made was broken, is there any canche to restore the old data, and if it's how then? On the old crux system the /home was placed at the end of the hdd and on this new system I'm running everything in a partition. Ext3 on the booth systems
[12:03] <TheH> it says yes
[12:03] <TheH> meaning they are installed?
[12:03] <mybers> any tulong about the gdm/xserver startup on bootup?
[12:03] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure all" then try again
[12:03] <Hoxzer> Hi, after I uninstalled jackd gnome wont load up propelly, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/gdm/0:log doesn't show any errors
[12:03] <fredl> Lewis, you still here?
[12:03] <juggernaut1980> ok hold on
[12:04] <Lewis> Yes
[12:04] <justthisguy> anyone?
[12:04] <fredl> Lewis, did you sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal?
[12:04] <Lewis> I did the sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal and apparently its all ok
[12:04] <juggernaut1980> command not found
[12:04] <Lewis> Already at the newest version it says
[12:04] <Hoxzer> Doods
[12:04] <_mason> from the terminal is there a way i can bring up a visual dialog?, in javascript you can " alert("foo"); "
[12:05] <fredl> Lewis, Hmmm. okay in the one window do /usr/bin/gnome-terminal&
[12:05] <fredl> brb
[12:05] <stefg> gustavnilsson: that means you repartitioned the drive to install ubuntu, and now you want data back from a partition that does no more even exist? No way!
[12:05] <TheH> Thank you all for your help, be back tomorrow. Thanks!
[12:05] <arnducky> stefg, that's not true
[12:05] <gustavnilsson> stefg: yes, exactly my problem..
[12:06] <arnducky> unless he formated the partition the data is still all there -- jsut loose
[12:06] <juggernaut1980> worked that time, said it needs an action option.
[12:06] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, what FS?
[12:06] <stefg> arnducky: Ok, you could do forensics on the last sectors... but that's only theory
[12:06] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: ext3
[12:06] <arnducky> stefg bullshit
[12:06] <SpaceFrog> :( Why doesn't fglrx support my card?
[12:07] <we2by> hi
[12:07] <SpaceFrog> I have a sapphire RADEON 9250 128MB
[12:07] <we2by> how do I change my defualt file browser to thunar?
[12:07] <SpaceFrog> I've been trying all day to get 3d accelleration working
[12:07] <arnducky> all he needs is to do rebuild the partitiion tables
[12:08] <seth_> justthisguy: One thing at a time. How are you starting this hardware(modules)?
[12:08] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: so I need to know my old partition table?
[12:08] <Lewis> I got another error in the white box and a blank black box top left appeared
[12:08] <stefg> !info ddrescue
[12:08] <ubotu> ddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[12:08] <justthisguy> seth_: sudo modprobe maestro and 8139too. That got my sound and
[12:08] <justthisguy> nics working
[12:08] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, exactly -- you will need to edit it manually DONOT use an automatic partitioner
[12:09] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, you will need the exact start and end sectors for the partition you want to read
[12:09] <seth_> Instead of writing a script you can just edit the file: /etc/modules
[12:09] <arnducky> then you *should* be able to read it simply with dd
[12:09] <stefg> This is what i meant by : this is theory
[12:09] <justthisguy> seth_: ok
[12:09] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: do you know any howto about that?
[12:10] <stefg> gustavnilsson: maybe testdisk could help
[12:10] <arnducky> stefg it is not theoryit is practical -- it has been done a zillion times
[12:10] <stefg> !info testdisk
[12:10] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[12:11] <Lewis> Any ideas on what I should do from here-on?
[12:11] <seth_> justthisguy: For example putting the word maestro would make the module start on bootup.
[12:11] <sv452> hi all
[12:11] <arnducky> it is not forensics either (if you mean cracking the case in a clean room)
[12:11] <kzx> Check out gpart for finding partition layout on a disk
[12:11] <arnducky> gparted
[12:11] <sv452> does anybody have any idea if there is a program similar to mobile phone tools for motorola phones on linux/debian/ubuntu ?
[12:11] <neildarlow> latest firefox update has broken firefox and epiphany for me :(
[12:12] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, gparted
[12:12] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: ok
[12:12] <arnducky> and FGS, mount the disk as ro (read only) before you touch it
[12:12] <Hoxzer> does synaptic generate logfile
[12:12] <neildarlow> sv452: there's various available for Qt/KDE
[12:13] <arnducky> I'd make a 'forensic' copy if you have any media available
[12:13] <Lewis> Oh, the black screen is now white and is a terminal window, what shall i do now?
[12:13] <seth_> justthisguy: For your other question about the mouse - most mice just work in ubuntu.
[12:13] <arnducky> Symantec Ghost is now available in a Linux edition, BTW
[12:13] <kzx> gustavnilsson: I meant gpart, not gparted. It means "guess partition"
[12:13] <gustavnilsson> well, thx for the information, it sounds like tehre is a little hope
[12:13] <sv452> do they work the same way as mobile phone tools for motorola phones ??? and whould you have a few names please ?
[12:13] <neildarlow> sv452: i'd give you some links but latest security update has broken my web browsers
[12:13] <gustavnilsson> kzx: ok
[12:14] <Ferramentapenna> Can someone tell me how to log in just with the command line, and not X?
[12:14] <justthisguy> seth_: it did in breezy, unfortunately it doesnt now
[12:14] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, lotsa hope if you are 'technical'
[12:14] <neildarlow> Ferramentapenna: Ctrl-Alt-F1 and login as normal
[12:14] <Ferramentapenna> Ctrl-Alt-F1?  OK, thanks a lot.
[12:14] <seth_> justthisguy: I'm using a micsoft wireless mouse in Dapper right now.
[12:14] <neildarlow> Ferramentapenna: Alt-F7 to get back to X login screen
[12:14] <Arcad3> no one of u GENIESES can tell me where to find xlibs for Ubuntu dapper drake 6.06?
[12:14] <sv452> oh so not nice - :( - my phone was in an accident and my screen is busted - i at least managed to pair bt to get a dialup! i need to get to my phonebook and sms and stuff
[12:15] <arnducky> like I said, all your data is still there unless you formated the partitions or wrote over the physical space in some other way (like making new partition in that space)
[12:15] <Ferramentapenna> Another qustion;  Kiba-dock is just showing as a black box, seems to be a draw issue.  Anyone know how to resolve it?
[12:15] <fdoving> _mason: yes please, i can take a look at your script :)
[12:15] <Arcad3> no one of u GENIESES can tell me where to find xlibs for Ubuntu dapper drake 6.06?
[12:15] <arnducky> when you format that's when mkfs is going to write %7 to ever byte
[12:16] <_mason> fdoving, its changed quite a bit since then, give me a moment, and ill upload it
[12:16] <neildarlow> Arcad3: they're in the respositories
[12:16] <Lynoure> Arcad3: Where on the filesystem installed or where a package?
[12:16] <Ferramentapenna> Arcad3:  Use Synaptic.
[12:16] <eclair> anyone here using xfburn?
[12:16] <fredl> Lewis, still here?
[12:16] <fdoving> _mason: great :)
[12:16] <Arcad3> its not:(
[12:16] <arnducky> kzx how 'safe'is gpart?
[12:16] <Lewis> yes
[12:16] <Arcad3> give me a link pls
[12:16] <sv452> @ neildarlow - do u know any off hand maybe
[12:16] <fredl> Lewis, so it opened up another window when you did /usr/bin/gnome-terminal& ?
[12:16] <fdoving> Arcad3: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <Lewis> yes
[12:17] <Ferramentapenna> Arcad3:  It's integrated.  System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager
[12:17] <Lynoure> Arcad3: apt-cache search xlibs
[12:17] <eclair> can anyone here compare maybe xfburn and gnomebaker?
[12:17] <neildarlow> sv452: Google Linux mobile phone tools
[12:17] <Arcad3> i searched there is just xlibs-dev
[12:17] <seth_> justthisguy: You're trying to have the mouse and the touchpat
[12:17] <Ferramentapenna> Anyone know how to make Kiba-dock not be a buggy black bar?
[12:17] <fredl> Lewis, make that new window real large, do less .xsession-errors in it, shift-g to go to the end, and paste what you see on the screen in pastebin
[12:17] <Lynoure> Arcad3: What do you want? For what use?
[12:17] <sv452> i have just the other way round
[12:17] <sv452> hehehehe
[12:17] <arnducky> neildarlow, try kmobiletools
[12:17] <Arcad3> my application needs xlibs
[12:17] <seth_> justthisguy: You're trying to have the mouse and the touchpad to both work?
[12:17] <neildarlow> arnducky: that's the one :)
[12:17] <Lynoure> Arcad3: What application?
[12:17] <arnducky> kmobiletools ships with kubuntu -- it's already there
[12:18] <Arcad3> doesnt matter
[12:18] <kzt> Ferramentapenna, i assume you are using compiz. right?
[12:18] <Lewis> i cant make the terminal window really large
[12:18] <yugge> Hey guys
[12:18] <kzx> arnducky: gpart scans the entire disk and shows suggested partition types. Read-only
[12:18] <justthisguy> seth_: nah, at the moment my (knob not touchpad) works, but my mouse doesnt if I plug it in.
[12:18] <Ferramentapenna> kzt:  Not yet, was working on getting that and Xgl after I get kiba working.  Do I need it?
[12:18] <arnducky> sv452 kmobiletools
[12:18] <Lynoure> Arcad3: Then it does not matter indeed, it might be packaged wrong.
[12:18] <Arcad3> Yahoo Messenger:D
[12:18] <fredl> Lewis, why not?
[12:18] <kzt> yep. otherwise it will show as a black box as you said.
[12:19] <sv452> why does synaptic chuck away my dl deb files when i set the options to never get rid of it ??
[12:19] <neildarlow> could someone check the forums to see of the latest firefox security update is borked please. i don't have any browsers now
[12:19] <Ferramentapenna> kzt:  Thanks a lot, I will work on that.
[12:19] <Lewis> ok. its large now
[12:19] <sv452> thanx arnducky - checking it out now
[12:19] <_mason> fdoving : http://lazzareth.com/scripts/
[12:19] <arnducky> kzt -- I seem to remember from when I messing around with ntfsresize on a live disk bwahahahaaaa...
[12:20] <yugge> Um, I screwed up grub while installing xp on my laptop (dual-boot yeah =/). So last night, i got grub up again by setting it up from a live-cd...now however. I can't get into winxp. anyone know how to add it?
[12:20] <fdoving> _mason: thanks.
[12:20] <arnducky> sv452, there are other options too (especially if you have a Nokia)
[12:20] <kzt> sorry, i didn't get what you mean.
[12:20] <arnducky> nokia <3 <3  <3
[12:20] <frogzoo> yugge: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - then 'sudo update-grub'
[12:20] <yugge> kzt: who me?
[12:20] <_mason> fdoving Not a problem, if your like me and have got<PHONE_NUMBER> thousand unuseable .bin's lying around this will prove quite usefull
[12:21] <yugge> frogzoo: thanks. Will try
[12:21] <codecaine> you can skip ubuntu install and go to grub it will auto configure for you yugge
[12:21] <kzt> no yugge, i was referring to arnducky's message..
[12:21] <arnducky> kztkzt -- I mean I think I came across gpart before: after blasting disks with ntfsresize
[12:21] <arnducky> hehehe
[12:22] <kzt> got it :0
[12:22] <fdoving> _mason: sure. you can use 'zenity' to display your messages. popup-dialog-thing.
[12:22] <seth_> justthisguy: I think it may have something to do with having 2 mice (the knob + the wireless mouse).
[12:22] <_mason> Wow, Thanks!
[12:22] <Lynoure> Arcad3: The Debian package for it is for Debian... Ubuntu often has different package names, so it's not going to be that straightforward
[12:22] <arnducky> BTW, there is finally a stable ntfs FS driver for writing to ntfs  -- yayyyyy!
[12:23] <yugge> codecaine: I will consiter it
[12:23] <yugge> frogzoo: still don't know what to write in menu.lst
[12:23] <justthisguy> yugge: man menu.lst :)
[12:23] <codecaine> just let ubuntu do it for you yugge
[12:23] <codecaine> :P
[12:23] <Lewis> Pasted into pastebin :)
[12:23] <Lewis> What do I do once submitted?
[12:24] <arnducky> Lynoure, most of them are the same except for 'meta-packages' (eg. kubuntu-desktop)
[12:24] <fredl> Lewis, what's the URL you see in firefox after you pasted it?
[12:24] <drumline> will update-grub add in the WindowsXP chainloader stuff?
[12:24] <seth_> justthisguy: I couldn't find anything on this on the ubuntu wiki, but for my laptop (which has gentoo installed) I was able to do it using instructions from the gentoo wiki.
[12:24] <juggernaut1980> can someone help me with this error i keep getting when i try to install a package?
[12:24] <kaur> it seems that my laptop doesn't remount swap after hibernation. What to do?
[12:24] <justthisguy> seth_: Ok I'll have a look round then. thanks
[12:24] <yugge> codecaine: oh, thats right. I forgot you can skip :D
[12:24] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, same weird 'MSDOS EOF' error?
[12:24] <Lynoure> Arcad3: You can to dissect it and repackage it for Ubuntu, but Yahoo licence might or might not allow that
[12:24] <Lewis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24490
[12:24] <fredl> sky123, you're right though, zimbra looks very impressive.
[12:25] <juggernaut1980> arnducky:  exactly right!
[12:25] <codecaine> :p
[12:25] <juggernaut1980> there shouldn't be any references to msdos in linux, right?
[12:25] <sky123> fredl: its pretty sweet..atleast the demo.. ;)
[12:25] <seth_> justthisguy: You may be able to get some ideas from here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Second_Mouse
[12:25] <drumline> yugge, is that working?
[12:25] <codecaine> there is one juggernaut
[12:25] <codecaine> you can download
[12:25] <codecaine> :P
[12:25] <Arcad3> no prob with LICENSE hehe thanks for the ideea
[12:25] <codecaine> there dos emulators
[12:25] <arnducky> It looks like a broken package to me, I'm afraid.  About all you can do is contact the pkg maintainer or developer AFAIK.
[12:25] <arnducky> What app?
[12:25] <kaur> it seems that my laptop doesn't remount swap after hibernation. What to do? Please help!!
[12:25] <sky123> fredl: ill have to understand their full structure and how they are using the opensource packages....but looks heavy ajax/java stuff
[12:25] <fredl> Lewis, that's all you managed to paste?
[12:26] <juggernaut1980> no matter what package i try to install it keeps doing that.
[12:26] <juggernaut1980> i just tried it with gkrellm
[12:26] <arnducky> what?!?
[12:26] <voraistos> kaur: install 1 GB of ram, so u dont need swap anymore lol
[12:26] <ballistix> hey guys, im a bit of an ubuntu noob and i could use some help please! :D anyway, im trying to compile, and im getting the error "/usr/lib/libSDL_image.a(IMG_jpg.o): In function `IMG_LoadJPG_RW': undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error'" with the JPEG, TIFF and PNG libraries. i apt-get'd the libjpeg, libtiff and libpng library, but the error still appears. is there something else that i am meant to do?
[12:26] <Arcad3> kaur:then never put it to hibernation
[12:26] <Lewis> was there supposed to be more?
[12:27] <Gasten> If my computer seems to be slower than it were on windoes 98, and programs (even nautilus) take long time to boot, would you suggest me to change the desctop eviroment from Gnome to Xfce? anything else?
[12:27] <seth_> I get the famous error "Cannot open '/dev/pg*'" from cdrecord. I have been checking the forums but get conflicting info from them (I'm using an ata drive). Anyone have any Ideas?
[12:27] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, ARE YOU SAYING THAT 99oops00 any program in the repository that you try to install gives you taht error?
[12:27] <kaur> voraistos: i have 1GB of ram but i prefer to hibernate to swap partition
[12:27] <fredl> Lewis, not 'supposed to' but I had hope to see a few more lines yeah. Just these few lines show some weird messages but nothing particular.
[12:27] <voraistos> kaur: ah!
[12:27] <Asc> Gasten: first try a 'sudo hdparm /dev/hda' and see if DMA is working
[12:28] <juggernaut1980> arnducky:  that's exactly what's happening here.  it worked earlier with xmms, but now i can't get anything!  :(
[12:28] <kaur> Arcad3: hibernation is needed with laptops
[12:28] <fdoving> Gasten: xfce is faster, so, if you want fast, you can atleast try it.
[12:28] <voraistos> ballistix: what about the sdl libraries ?
[12:28] <Schalken> how come when i do "syslinux /dev/sdb1" it says "sh: mcopy: command not found"?
[12:28] <Lewis> Updated it but theres nothing massively changed on there
[12:28] <ballistix> how would i grab them?
[12:28] <Lewis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24491
[12:29] <Gasten> Asc: I have done it. how do I tell if it's working?
[12:29] <juggernaut1980> do you think my dpkg is messed up then?
[12:29] <we2by> how do I change my defualt file browser to thunar?
[12:29] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, very possible
[12:29] <ballistix> voraistos: how would i apt-get them? i've got sdl and sdl_image installed
[12:29] <juggernaut1980> is there a way that i can remove that current installation and slap a new one on there?
[12:29] <arnducky> that kind of problem is quite beyond me though -- sorry
[12:29] <fredl> Lewis, do you have a lot of personal stuff already on yoru system?
[12:29] <voraistos> ballistix: i dunno, i take a look
[12:29] <Asc> Gasten: look at the line that says 'using_dma' and see if it says 'on' or 'off'
[12:29] <ballistix> thanks
[12:30] <Lewis> Family accounts, my network...thats all
[12:30] <juggernaut1980> argh!  well, thanks anyway, you've been a great help with your answers.  :)
[12:30] <kaur> does anyone have a clue why my laptop doesn't mount swap after hibernation?
[12:30] <Gasten> Asc: Ah, there. I didn't see it. it is using DMA. I'll look into switching then. For a while.
[12:30] <arnducky> I wish I was  :-P
[12:30] <Gasten> Asc: thanks.
[12:30] <fredl> Lewis, if you haven't really done anything yet, I'd recommend reinstalling Ubuntu. Something has gone real wrong with your system and it's hard for me to try and walk you through this when you still have such limited knowledge...
[12:30] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I untar gtk2 themes to?
[12:31] <fredl> Lewis, sorry that I can't give you a silver bullet that fixes your problem :)
[12:31] <Asc> Gasten: actually, I was thinking that maybe it was slow because DMA was disabled.
[12:31] <Schalken> how come when i do "syslinux /dev/sdb1" it says "sh: mcopy: command not found"???
[12:31] <Asc> Gasten: Hm.  How fast is your computer, out of curiosity?
[12:31] <voraistos> ballistix: do u have libsdl1.2-dev or something like that ?
[12:31] <_mason> fdoving with zenity what units is --width in ?
[12:32] <fredl> schalken: mcopy is not installed. So install it.
[12:32] <Gasten> Asc: 1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 733MHz
[12:32] <ballistix> i don't have dev, ill try getting it
[12:32] <Schalken> fredl: where from?
[12:32] <_mason> fdoving i tried 600 = no effect, and 600px = error
[12:32] <fredl> Schalken how did you install syslinux?
[12:33] <Schalken> fredl: repos
[12:33] <neildarlow> how do i recover from "parse error in /var/lib/dpkg/available" situations?
[12:33] <fredl> Schalken, Hmm, then the syslinux package doesn't have proper dependencies I'd say
[12:33] <fdoving> _mason: width?
[12:33] <Lewis> fredl, I am so appreciative of your help. I will install Ubuntu, and see how it goes on from there. Any reccomendations of what to avoid? Like chaging certain settings etc...?
[12:33] <Asc> Gasten: well, that is odd.  I was using a P3 coppermine at 500 mhz and it worked fine with gnome.
[12:33] <finalbeta> I just had a report of a person trying to install ubuntu on some other website. Once the cursor appears on the Live CD, it keeps reading from the CD? but nothing loads. I think the problem is he only has 256MB of ram. How doe sit work if you have low ram/ no swap. Can ubuntu live CD boot? What do you guys think of the high memory consumption of ubuntu. It takes much more then an XP box for me.
[12:34] <Matix> hi
[12:34] <Lewis> *reinstall
[12:34] <_mason> fdoving .. Yeah?
[12:34] <Asc> Gasten: is it, like, problematicly slow, or does it just take 10-15 seconds for things to start?
[12:34] <Schalken> where can i get mcopy???
[12:34] <Gasten> Asc: Oh, I didn't say it didn't work fine. I just wanna see if it can work Better.
[12:34] <fredl> Lewis, no, changing setting is fine. While you're still inexperienced, try not putting lots of your stuff on your system so it's easy to reinstall.
[12:34] <_mason> fdoving its in the man file of zenity but it doesnt say what units its in, and just numeral doesnt work
[12:34] <fredl> Schalken, when you installed syslinux...
[12:35] <Matix> can i instal ubuntu 6.06 on my pc (pentium 233mhz and 196Mb RAM)?
[12:35] <fredl> Schalken, it said: Recommended packages:
[12:35] <fredl>   mtools
[12:35] <Schalken> fredl: yes...
[12:35] <Lewis> Ok, thanks fredl. :D
[12:35] <Gasten> Asc: it takes more like... 5-15 sec.
[12:35] <juggernaut1980> finalbeta:  i just put ubuntu on my lappy and had that same problem with the livecd.
[12:35] <neildarlow> Schalken: mtools?
[12:35] <justthisguy> Matix: yup
[12:35] <Schalken> mtools!
[12:35] <Matix> tx
[12:35] <fredl> Schalken, sometimes those apt-get messages are worth reading :P
[12:35] <Schalken> cool i'll try it
[12:35] <fredl> Lewis, enjoy :)
[12:35] <Gasten> Asc: maybe I'm just whiney for nothing.
[12:35] <fdoving> _mason: never used --width do you need it? won't the dialog resize itself or wrap the text to match your input?
[12:35] <finalbeta> juggernaut1980, do you think it was running out of memory? PS, using dapper?
[12:35] <juggernaut1980> 'cept my install went a little farther, but would still freeze up.  you should try the alternate install cd.
[12:36] <Asc> Gasten: Da.  Da.  Well, in my experience, the desktop environment doesn't affect much except RAM usage.  If you want a really minimal window manager though, I'd recommend ion.
[12:36] <Schalken> fredl: it didnt actually say anything. maybe i will set it to treat recommendations as dependencies from now on.
[12:36] <Asc> Gasten: It might or might not be faster, I haven't really used gnome in a long time
[12:36] <dibblego> was a firefox update just made available?
[12:36] <_mason> fdoving Well, its no big deal, ive macgyvered the problem by just adding '           ' x 10 to the text
[12:36] <kzt> finalbeta, you may be interested in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/ and see the "alternate install CD"
[12:36] <juggernaut1980> finalbeta:  that was my problem.  my sys is a lappy with shared vid ram.  ubuntu installed just fine and runs speedily when i did the text install.
[12:36] <Gasten> Asc: Ok. Thne Ithink I'll stick to gnome. No need to hassle.
[12:37] <finalbeta> Ok. thnx.
[12:37] <fdoving> _mason: that could be a bad solution, considering font sizes and font types etc.
[12:37] <juggernaut1980> finalbeta:  it says i have 256mb ram in here, but with the shared video ram, that brings it down to 190.
[12:37] <yugge> sudo update-grub worked wonderfully
[12:37] <finalbeta> yep
[12:37] <yugge> thanks :D
[12:37] <juggernaut1980> but that problem only came up with the livecd install, the text install was smooth.
[12:38] <juggernaut1980> and my system is faster in ubuntu than windows.
[12:38] <Aagni> hello all
[12:38] <juggernaut1980> at least it seems like it from a user's point of view.
[12:38] <_mason> fdoving by x10 i didnt really mean that much, imo the spacing i added wont be a problem on any system
[12:39] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I untar gtk2 themes to?
[12:39] <fdoving> _mason: ok :)
[12:39] <juggernaut1980> i think my dpkg is messed up.  can anyone help me with this issue?
[12:39] <Aagni> anyone manage to get tv-out working with dapper?
[12:39] <Asc> Gasten: Da.  Try the clearlooks theme.  It may or may not affect speed in any way.
[12:40] <kzt> juggernaut1980, what do you see?
[12:40] <finalbeta> kzt, so the alternative install CD's boot you into a txt based installer?
[12:40] <kzt> that's right, finalbeta.
[12:40] <juggernaut1980> it gives me a crazy `MSDOS EOF (^Z)' error.
[12:41] <finalbeta> Ok, thxn for your help now I can help that dude :p
[12:41] <jamadagni> anyone knows how to get apt-move to work with universe and multiverse?
[12:41] <kzt> for dapper, you might also want to check the server CD
[12:41] <kzt> or the... wait (ill check it out)
[12:41] <jamadagni> i tried it with my local apt cahce but it left out a lot of packages which were from those two categories
[12:42] <shithead5789> hey guys I need a confirmation on a possible on gstreamer
[12:42] <shithead5789> hey guys I need a confirmation on a possible bug on gstreamer
[12:43] <shithead5789> Using the default drivers for the GPU and playing a video in totem the colors are displayed right. But when I install ATI's drivers (for my X1800XL) and I play a video in totem the colors are distorted. For example red becomes blue!!!! But if I play the video in xine (with ATI's drivers installed) the colors are fine. So I am guessing that this "problem" has something to do with gstreamer. But on the other hand why don't I have the same probl
[12:43] <shithead5789> Reply With Quote
[12:43] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i posted the error here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24488
[12:43] <sv452> who knows anything bout web cams and linux/ubuntu
[12:43] <Schalken> has anyone used movix before???
[12:43] <_mason> Now, Does anyone know of an application that can convert .mdf/.mds into iso format?
[12:43] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ok am checking it out
[12:46] <kzt> juggernaut1980, it is possible that a recent updating of the available packages made an error. try:
[12:46] <kzt> "sudo apt-get update"
[12:46] <jamadagni> hello can anyone help me?
[12:46] <jamadagni> i asked a q about apt-move
[12:47] <ballistix> hi all, i have a problem: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl-image1.2_1.2.4-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:47] <ballistix>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0', which is also in package sdl-image
[12:47] <ballistix>  ...help?
[12:47] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok hold on
[12:47] <Soelle> how do i add a repository?
[12:47] <malv> anyone know whats up with quinns xgl repositories?
[12:47] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ok
[12:47] <malv> and how I can install compiz now
[12:47] <doddy> can someone tell me if rythmbox should be able to play mp3's?
[12:48] <Soelle> it shouldnt
[12:48] <Schalken> ballistix: do you need the package sdl-image?
[12:48] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  now i have duplicate entries for sources.list
[12:48] <Soelle> u need to install codec packs
[12:48] <ballistix> Schalken: yes.
[12:48] <kzt> doddy., yes it can
[12:48] <doddy> ah ok - so i can get the codecs from their site?
[12:48] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  they are duplicate entries for the cdrom sources.list
[12:49] <kzt> juggernaut1980, hold on...
[12:49] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok
[12:49] <Schalken> ballistix: well what can you do, the two packages obviously conflict each other...
[12:49] <Soelle> how do i add a repository? for eksample the amarok repository so i can get 1.4.
[12:50] <Schalken> Soelle: is the amarok repository an apt repository?
[12:50] <llpamies> Witch package I need to install in EDGY to get the GLUT development files ?
[12:50] <ballistix> Schalken: aren't they the same thing?
[12:50] <Soelle> Schalken: yes it is
[12:50] <dylan_> Anybody know where I can get pre-made kernels?
[12:50] <Schalken> Soelle: do they provide an apt line?
[12:50] <Schalken> ballistix: dunno, are they?
[12:50] <kzt> juggernaut, you mean dpkg complains of duplicate entries? that would refer to the file /etc/apt/sources.list. you can check out the error more closely and look for that offending line. if you want, you can paste the error and i will help you through it.
[12:51] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  great!  hold on while i do that.
[12:51] <ballistix> i thought so
[12:51] <ballistix> how can i uninstall sdl_image?
[12:51] <Soelle> Schalken: well i dont know if they do - apt source is: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[12:51] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ill hold on
[12:52] <finalbeta> Would it not be advised that ubuntu displayed a message to the end user if the live CD doesn't have nearly enough memory to run and has no swap available? So the end user doesn't get stuck when loading X anyway?
[12:52] <Schalken> Soelle: go into System -> Admin -> Software properties, add, click 'custom' in the bottom left, type "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main" and click okay
[12:53] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  here ya go.......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24494
[12:53] <Schalken> ballistix: if you're that brave you can use 'sudo apt-get remove sdl-image'
[12:53] <ballistix> lol ok
[12:53] <ballistix> thansk
[12:53] <kzt> ok... am checking it out
[12:53] <TheGateKeeper> anyone used ekiga & knows how to get it working?
[12:54] <[NikO] > hello
[12:55] <Schalken> hello :D
[12:55] <[NikO] > could someone know where i can find cgwd repository ?
[12:56] <doddy> can someone tell me which is the correct gstreamer to install in order to play mps on rythmbox - the website suggests gstreamer-ugly which is not an install option that I can see
[12:56] <kzt> juggernaut1980, you can open the file with "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list". if you are more comfortable using a GUI text editor, replace "nano" with "gedit"
[12:56] <Schalken> [NikO] : this site seems to know: http://ocaoimh.ie/2006/08/20/more-linux-eyecandy-cgwd-themes/
[12:56] <[NikO] > i take a look thanks
[12:56] <doddy> the others that are available are ASLA, ESD
[12:56] <Schalken> [NikO] : wait, i dont think that actually says where the repo is :S
[12:57] <ThomAnnatar> Hey guys little question.. when i search for wesnoth in Synaptic it sais version: 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2  WHY? i dont want it to be reverted !
[12:57] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i'll go with the GUI editor
[12:57] <kzt> doddy, have your checked this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:57] <finalbeta> Would it not be advised that ubuntu displayed a message to the end user if the live CD doesn't have nearly enough memory to run and has no swap available? So the end user doesn't get stuck when loading X anyway?
[12:57] <[NikO] > i think they leave file in the original repository
[12:57] <Schalken> ThomAnnatar: it could be reverted because another package depends on the older version
[12:57] <[NikO] > like they say here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263274&highlight=cgwd
[12:57] <Schalken> ThomAnnatar: try to install the new one and see what complains
[12:58] <ThomAnnatar> Schalken How to NOT reverted?
[12:58] <frandavid100> hi! how can I mail and subscribe to the ubuntu-desktop list?
[12:58] <juggernaut1980> i have it open!
[12:58] <we2by> I have compiled a new plugin for gaim, but I don't see it in the plugin list. any help?
[12:58] <neildarlow> how do i deal with a corrupt file in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives? specifically, x-www-browser
[12:58] <Schalken> frandavid100: lists.ubuntu.com
[12:58] <kzt> ok juggernaut1980. now one you have opened the file, try to look for the duplicated line referring to the cdrom repository
[12:58] <ThomAnnatar> I want to have the newest version :'(
[12:59] <doddy> thanks NikO that looks exactly the link I am looking for - i will go read now thanks again!
[12:59] <juggernaut1980> i'm pretty sure it's right near the top.
[12:59] <frandavid100> IOU Schalken ;)
[12:59] <Schalken> frandavid100: :|
[12:59] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  there are two at the top that are the same.
[12:59] <kzt> that's right, near the top. now, put a "#" at the start of the line of one of the duplicate entries.
[12:59] <chillmode> hi.. is there some comand to start my eht1 auto when i boot ubuntu? its never on then i boot... i always need to go in to network tools and turn it on
[12:59] <[NikO] > doody, there is no repository actually :/
[12:59] <gustavnilsson> so, now I know the start and end sectors of my partition, how to read it with dd?
[01:00] <Schalken> [NikO] : can you download the deb at least?
[01:00] <[NikO] > where ?
[01:00] <ThomAnnatar> Schalken: how to unrevert it?
[01:00] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  just one and the beginning of the first line for the entry?
[01:00] <Schalken> [NikO] : thought you knew :-/
[01:00] <juggernaut1980> **at
[01:01] <kzt> yes, juggernaut1980, a "#" at the start of the line of one of the entries only
[01:01] <juggernaut1980> do i need to comment out the second line of that enrty?
[01:01] <juggernaut1980> there are two entries with two lines each.
[01:02] <kzt> wait a while, let me check again your paste
[01:02] <juggernaut1980> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)] / dapper main restricted
[01:02] <kzt> can't see that in your paste, but it'll be safe to comment out that line too.
[01:02] <juggernaut1980> ok, brb
[01:02] <Davo_Dinkum> Hi all.
[01:03] <juggernaut1980> it put the second # at the end of the first line, so i'll assume it's just a wordwrap.
[01:03] <ThomAnnatar> aint there a list of unofficial repository's for ubuntu dapper?
[01:03] <kzt> chillmode, you might want to explore the file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[01:03] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a guide for ATI cards for XGL? I looked at this one, but it says NVIDIA: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit#Introduction
[01:04] <kzt> ok juggernaut, should have been a wordwrap
[01:04] <[NikO] > Davo_Dinkum: you have the cgwd installed ?
[01:04] <kzt> try to disable wordwrap
[01:04] <kzt> edit->preferences
[01:04] <Davo_Dinkum> NikO: What's that?
[01:04] <Arcad3> someone wants cedega?
[01:04] <doddy> NikO - what do you mean by no repository for them? you mean the ones required i.e. gstreamer-ugly is not downloadable?
[01:04] <juggernaut1980> word up.  one line.
[01:04] <Schalken> Davo_Dinkum: a themer for compiz
[01:05] <Davo_Dinkum> Ah ok.
[01:05] <doddy> sorry for the dumb question but just started with linux yesterday :-)
[01:05] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  disabled text wrap, it's all one line.
[01:05] <kzt> juggernaut, so you have "wrap" disabled?
[01:05] <kzt> ok
[01:05] <Davo_Dinkum> I haven't installed anything yet, I was hoping for a step-by-step guide to the whole process.
[01:05] <kzt> you can now save the file, go to a terminal and do again: "sudo apt-get update"
[01:05] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok brb
[01:05] <matt_> i'd like to get XGL and Compiz running on my AMD64 machine (running Dapper). Can you do this using Synapic / apt-get? I have found a good tutorial on the forums (from Feb 2006) but would like to now if this is now outdated.
[01:06] <Schalken> !universe
[01:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:06] <Schalken> hmmm
[01:06] <juggernaut1980> ktz:  ok, that didn't return any errors
[01:06] <Steil> Is there an easy way to clear the "Open Location" history in totem?
[01:07] <juggernaut1980> thanksa mucho ktz!!  XD
[01:07] <kzt> that's great. now,
[01:07] <Schalken> Steil: remember something that is in there, and then do a search through your home directory for a file containing it
[01:07] <Schalken> Steil: empty the file
[01:07] <kzt> i think you will be able to use dpkg or apt-get w/o errors
[01:07] <juggernaut1980> i'll need you to stick around for a min tho, so i can show you the other error if it comes up.
[01:07] <kzt> ok, will be here
[01:08] <Steil> Schalken: I said easy
[01:08] <Steil> thanks though
[01:08] <voraistos> hey guys, how to unmount /dev/hda5 ? cant remember the command :(
[01:08] <gr8wilco> umount
[01:08] <gr8wilco> :P
[01:09] <voraistos> nope
[01:09] <gr8wilco> nope?
[01:09] <Schalken> Steil: my computer is searching for that file right now for you....
[01:09] <kzt> voristors, try to find out where hda5 is mounted with "mount|grep hda5"
[01:09] <voraistos> tried that already. oh! typo mistake :P
[01:09] <Gasten> voraistos: what does it say?
[01:09] <Steil> thanks :)
[01:10] <Schalken> Steil: if only my home directory wasnt so huge :(
[01:10] <Gasten> :)
[01:10] <kzt> then unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt/point" where "/mnt/point" refers to the drectory where /dev/hda5 was mounted
[01:10] <gerhard> hi
[01:10] <gerhard> what was the site which builds you vmx files
[01:10] <gerhard> ?
[01:10] <gerhard> i mean for win xp or something
[01:10] <codecaine> I know ubuntu auto configure partitons for u in grub but if you were doing mainly how do you find the boot point?
[01:11] <theLife> hey hey
[01:11] <codecaine> like (hd0,0)
[01:11] <theLife> any way to watch free TV through Dapper?
[01:11] <juggernaut1980> ktz:  this is what i get now:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24495
[01:11] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ok
[01:11] <Matix> i have penium on 233mhz and 196mb RAM and i want to instal ubuntu 6.06 but it is bloking on "mount rooting sistem files" i neet to make linux xet2 partition for ubuntu?
[01:12] <tarvid> getting lots of errors in Firefox after recent dapper update
[01:12] <Rookie> How come it writes PCI bus when i have AGP bus ?
[01:13] <Rookie> !nvidia
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <theLife> tarvid: lol
[01:13] <Schalken> Steil: got it!
[01:13] <codecaine> lol
[01:14] <theLife> codecaine: ROFL
[01:14] <Steil> Perfect, which file was it?
[01:14] <codecaine> I use swiftfox
[01:14] <codecaine> :P
[01:14] <codecaine> faster
[01:14] <theLife> codecaine: LOL
[01:14] <codecaine> ubuntu is bloated
[01:14] <theLife> codecaine: define bloated
[01:14] <kzt> juggernaut, have you recently added a repository? seems it is borking the "available" file
[01:14] <Schalken> Steil: remove this file: ~//.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/totem/%gconf.xml
[01:14] <codecaine> more stuff configured in it then needed
[01:14] <Schalken> Steil: i mean this file: ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/totem/%gconf.xml
[01:15] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i added the canonical repository.  should i remove it
[01:15] <elkbuntu> codecaine, ootb usability often does result in bloat, yes
[01:15] <theLife> codecaine: so why dont you create a better distro instead of complaining?
[01:15] <juggernaut1980> the one on the website walkthrough
[01:15] <Matix> i have penium on 233mhz and 196mb RAM and i want to instal ubuntu 6.06 but it is bloking on "mount rooting sistem files" i neet to make linux ext2 and linux swaap partition for ubuntu?
[01:15] <Steil> thanks Schalken :)
[01:15] <theLife> codecaine: if Ubuntu is so bad, then show us what a distro should be like!  well?
[01:16] <codecaine> im not complaining
[01:16] <theLife> codecaine: create a better distro instead of complaining
[01:16] <Schalken> Steil: did it work? they should really make a gui for it.
[01:16] <theLife> codecaine: you complain more than my cat
[01:16] <kzt> before doing that, you might want to try to opening the available file, i.e. "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/available", save it in order to remove the "MSDOS EOF" character
[01:16] <codecaine> and its not the distro its the package binary
[01:16] <codecaine> lol
[01:16] <kzt> then try to install gkrellm again
[01:16] <elkbuntu> theLife, calm down
[01:16] <theLife> elkbuntu: define calm
[01:16] <juggernaut1980> ok i'll try that!  :)  brb
[01:16] <theLife> codecaine: grow up
[01:16] <Overand> take the fighting to emacs
[01:16] <frying_fish> anyone know how to undo a dpkg-divert?
[01:16] <kzt> or you might want to use gedit
[01:16] <Overand> keep the conversation in here
[01:17] <elkbuntu> theLife, i'd rather define troll for both you and codecaine. you guys are wasting valueable scrolling
[01:17] <frying_fish> found it
[01:17] <Davo_Dinkum> Bye.
[01:17] <progek> Can anyone answer a question on ircd?
[01:17] <theLife> elkbuntu: what on earth makes you think that we value anything you say?
[01:17] <Schalken> has anyone used movix before?
[01:17] <nickspoon> get a room you lot :P
[01:17] <theLife> elkbuntu: you are nothing more than a arrogant ignorant fool! I cant for the life of me imagine what possess you to think we care for anything you say!  LOL
[01:18] <Matix> i have pentium on 233mhz and 196mb RAM and i want to instal ubuntu 6.06 but it is bloking on "mount rooting sistem files" i neet to make linux ext2 and linux swaap partition for ubuntu?
[01:18] <Overand> !ops thelife
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops thelife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <theLife> elkbuntu: there is nothing you can say that carried any credibility or value for me
[01:18] <Overand> oh, that's a #debian thing.  =]
[01:18] <theLife> !ops Overand
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops Overand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <elkbuntu> theLife, you could start by looking at my hostmask
[01:18] <Schalken> !ops
[01:18] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:18] <theLife> elkbuntu: ok let me look ;)
[01:19] <Schalken> what the
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Schalken: ?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, read up, dear
[01:19] <Overand> Hobbsee: we've got some trolling
[01:19] <theLife> elkbuntu: are you female?
[01:19] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  gedit could not open the file, but i have it open in nano, and it's very confusing.  how do i edit, and remove the problem?
[01:19] <codecaine> both are you are are not mature
[01:19] <Schalken> Hobbsee: what does !ops do?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> theLife, yes, so is hobbsee
[01:19] <codecaine> of
[01:19] <elkbuntu> theLife, you might want to be carful what you say after this
[01:19] <theLife> elkbuntu: if you are female, then I apoligise!  sorry
[01:19] <Matix> vorbeste careva romana de aci plz un privat
[01:19] <Overand> oh jeez
[01:20] <theLife> elkbuntu: I am always nice to females ;)
[01:20] <Hobbsee> Schalken: it pings the ops, so we can deal with whatever is happening
[01:20] <Overand> yeah- sexism will help.
[01:20] <theLife> elkbuntu: now that I know you are female, ill be very nice to you :)
[01:20] <theLife> Overand: you bet :)
[01:20] <Schalken> Hobbsee: whoops :-[
[01:20] <Schalken> :p
[01:20] <lastnode_> when is edgy being released again?
[01:20] <Overand> Schalken: i was trying to trigger them anyway, i was just using the #debian bot's synta
[01:20] <Overand> x
[01:21] <progek> I set up an irc server but I can only connect within my network. I am port forwarding in my router but cannot access outside. any ideas? would an ISP block 6667?
[01:21] <Schalken> Overand: okay :D
[01:21] <Overand> progek: do other ports work, like 80?
[01:21] <Hobbsee> Overand: and why did you need an op?
[01:21] <kzt> what does gedit say? anyway, if you have opened/saved it in nano, i guess that would be enough. trying instaling again. if the error persists, do paste the first few lines of your available file
[01:21] <progek> nope, I had to change 80 to something else to get apache to work
[01:21] <Overand> Hobbsee: theLife was trolling for a bit
[01:21] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, the troublemaker has left
[01:21] <Hobbsee> Overand: so i see, he's just left
[01:21] <Overand> yeah
[01:22] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  how do i save in nano?
[01:22] <Schalken> lastnode_: some time october i beleive
[01:22] <lastnode_> thanks Schalken
[01:22] <progek> could I also change the port for irc?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> juggernaut1980: ctrl+x
[01:22] <Overand> progek: yes-
[01:22] <kzt> juggernaut1980, "Ctrl-o", as in the letter "o"
[01:22] <Arcad3> how can i write a file on a Windows partition(EX:hdc2 from ubuntu)?
[01:22] <Overand> progek: make sure the ircD isn't set to only allow connections from your subnet though
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont look at me.. I just got here  ... :)
[01:22] <Schalken> has anyone used movix before?
[01:22] <kzt> then "ctrl-x" to exit
[01:22] <Overand> Arcad3: is the windows partition NTFS or FAT32?
[01:23] <Arcad3> NTFS
[01:23] <Overand> Most of the NTFS-write solutions require some work, as far as i know
[01:23] <progek> overand, thanks. how would I go about seeing if it only allows those connections? Would that be inside it's conf file and if so do you know what it would say?
[01:23] <codecaine> Depends on what windows you use Overand
[01:23] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  same error code.  i'll pastebin the first few lines
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[01:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[01:23] <kzt> ok.
[01:24] <ph8> hey guys, how do you become and ubuntu 'member' - is that for developers?
[01:24] <Arcad3> thanks
[01:24] <Overand> Arcad3: heed the warnings- it *is* possible that you can corrupt data
[01:24] <Overand> or otherwise damage the ntfs partition
[01:24] <Overand> though i think ntfs-3g is pretttttttty decent
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Overand: I am starting to change my mine on 3g
[01:25] <troughton> i have got a compaq presario v6000 and am having nothing but trubble installing it can anyone help
[01:25] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24496
[01:25] <kzt> ok
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Sure, how mych ram
[01:25] <abaldwin> hello
[01:26] <troughton> its an amd 64 x2 1gig ram
[01:26] <abaldwin> can anyone tell me what I have to do to get US International keyboard layout?  It is not in the system settings offerings
[01:26] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  it didn't paste it as is.  i'm going to try to open it in gedit again
[01:26] <kzt> ok.
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: And the trouble
[01:27] <salutem333> Gente, como fao pra descompactar os pacotes baixados em linux?
[01:27] <abaldwin> I''m just trying out Kubu on the liveCD, but seriously considering a migration fro FC, but I can''t work without US International keyboard layout (I''m a translator)
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: BRB, gotta get my first cup of coffee in me...
[01:28] <Max_Might> can someone help me with apache server, i cant upload files .... :(
[01:28] <AlexC_> Hey
[01:28] <abaldwin> qual typo de pacote, Salutem?
[01:28] <frying_fish> anyone else just get the backported xchat 2.6.6 to dapper? and found tha the "open link in browser" now opens links in "links" instead of whatever you had set previous?
[01:28] <abaldwin> e um tar, .gz, .zip?
[01:28] <frying_fish> abaldwin: you should be able to get US international keyboard layout, its an xorg option.... (surely)
[01:29] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  gedit said:  "Could not open the file /var/lib/dpkg/available using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding."
[01:29] <AlexC_> Is there a free ( price ) version of SLED 10.1 ?
[01:29] <abaldwin> yeah, but i don''t find it in the system settings offerings as I did with fedora
[01:29] <salutem333> tar.bz, rpm...  sei dar os comandos no terminal... s novo em linux
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Does the livecd get you to a desktop
[01:29] <bXi> does one of you know how to fix undefined reference to `uuid_unparse'
[01:30] <kzt> juggernaut1980, might need to settle with nano for a while
[01:30] <abaldwin> salutem, qual tipo de pacote ta tentando de abrir?
[01:30] <troughton> the mouse is irratic doing its own thing clicking buttons ect then just stops and i have no access to the computer there is no sound i have read the forums and web it seems everyone who has one has the same problem Jack_Sparrow
[01:30] <frying_fish> abaldwin: doesn't mean you can't do it manually, so just do it in xorg.
[01:30] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  that's what i was thinking
[01:30] <troughton> no i have to put in acpi=off
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Everyone with your specifc computer...
[01:30] <abaldwin> well, then, how would I go about that?  do I need to do something to Xorg.cong or something?
[01:30] <kzt> once opened in nano, select the text using your mouse (might need to press shift while selecting)
[01:30] <frying_fish> and abaldwin in system -> preferences-> keyboard, you could add it there...
[01:30] <troughton> yes every one with the same make of computer
[01:31] <kzt> then once selected, go to pastebin and "middle click" on the text area to "paste" the text
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> but adding acpi=off fixes it?
[01:31] <unfknblvbl> okay question, whats next after: nubuntu kubuntu edubuntu fluxbuntu xubuntu ?
[01:31] <abaldwin> but it isn't offerd in system-setting-keyboard
[01:31] <frying_fish> abaldwin: look at xorg.conf, for the keyboard stuff and have us and as an option, intl
[01:31] <salutem333> tar.bz - lmule
[01:31] <troughton> only gets you into the live cd
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: At least the ouse problem
[01:31] <frying_fish> abaldwin: it is in system->preferences->keyboard
[01:31] <frying_fish> look again!
[01:31] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  middle click?  i have a laptop.
[01:31] <tombs> salutem333: pq vc nao entra no ubuntu-br?
[01:31] <frying_fish> system->preferences->keyboard   (then click the layout tab and add new and find the US one you want)
[01:31] <salutem333> j tentei... guia foca,...
[01:31] <kzt> try pressing left and right simultaneously (to emulate a middle click)
[01:32] <salutem333>  t rolando
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: We can add acpi=off to the grub menu...
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> nice to see that the flash-plugin had been fixed
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[01:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Paddy_EIRE
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> mourning
[01:32] <abaldwin> ok, I am not finding preferences under the system menu
[01:32] <tombs> Jack_Sparrow: thanx man, but thats portuguese :)
[01:33] <troughton> once installed i can get in but the mouse is my worst problem cause it makes the system unusable
[01:33] <frying_fish> abaldwin: gnome? or KDE?
[01:33] <abaldwin> under system settings, yes, and avarious layouts are offered, mas, not what I need, US Intl.
[01:33] <abaldwin> kubuntu, therefore KDE
[01:33] <epsi> hello, I have encountered a very strange network bug and cannot find answers from google
[01:33] <frying_fish> ahh, well in that case, it would be somewhere different, but you can still do it manually
[01:33] <abaldwin> but I always used KDE in fedora, and had US Intl keyboard available
[01:33] <kzt> did you get that juggernaut? left and right click simultaneously to emulate a middle click
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: is it a whole handling to get the media keys working through amarok?
[01:33] <frying_fish> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <abaldwin> I''m not even finding portuguese support in here.
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: First please make a copy of your grub menu   sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[01:34] <frying_fish> and then when it gets to the stuff about keyboard choose us and the option intl
[01:34] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24498  .....but when it posts it, numbers come up instead of the characters i copied.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Second open a copy of your grub menu   gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:34] <frying_fish> abaldwin: its probably that kubuntu hasn't installed all the options by default.
[01:34] <kzt> is that so.... wait..
[01:34] <ThomAnnatar> Hey guys little question.. when i search for wesnoth in Synaptic it sais version: 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2  WHY? i dont want it to be reverted !
[01:34] <abaldwin> oh, I found portuguese
[01:34] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i did as instructed, it simulated the "middle click"
[01:34] <epsi> the problem is that if for example download something, there seems to be someking of buggy limit, and after that "download limit" all painfully slow and I get "Rx ERROR!!!"
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Copy and paste a copy to the pastebin linked below
[01:34] <abaldwin> so, is ther a way to apt-get it or something?
[01:34] <epsi> somekind
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[01:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:35] <Tomcat_> ThomAnnatar: Problem with dependencies, didn't compile, whatever... might be hundreds of reasons. :)
[01:35] <Tomcat_> ThomAnnatar: Compile it yourself then, I guess. :\
[01:35] <kzt> saw it...
[01:35] <kzt> can't make much from it
[01:35] <frying_fish> abaldwin: probably, but if you just want to set it in xorg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will take you through a guide to set us intenational
[01:35] <ThomAnnatar> Tomcat_  Oh noo i promised myself to not compile annything this time :P
[01:35] <abaldwin> eu sei que s~ao brasileiros usando kubuntu, entao, tem que ter apuyo pelo portugues, ne
[01:35] <juggernaut1980> yeah, me neither.  is there any way to remove dpkg and then reinstall it?>
[01:36] <troughton> ok give me some time will have to boot up and i need a coffee too
[01:36] <kzt> if i were you, i'd remove the most recently added repository
[01:36] <ThomAnnatar> Tomcat_ is there a way to unrevert it?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: np
[01:36] <epsi> and after it gets slow, I can get it fast again by /sbin/ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 ...
[01:36] <abaldwin> oh, ok...I ''ve been on fedora so long, using yum (which keeps breaking stuff, which is why Im here) that I've not had to sudo or use apt in forever
[01:36] <kzt> "canonical" as you said
[01:36] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok i'll do that.  brb
[01:36] <abaldwin> in fedora, I got root
[01:36] <epsi> seems that it is a bug in ethernet driver or something like that?
[01:36] <ThomAnnatar> abaldwin type sudo su and ur root :P
[01:36] <kzt> then redo "sudo apt-get update" and check again if any error will come up when installing something
[01:37] <bXi> does one of you know how to fix: undefined reference to `uuid_unparse' ?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: Could you define the context of the error
[01:38] <rainbow1> hi everyone, does anyone know whether the MSI K9NGM motherboard works with dapper?
[01:38] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[01:38] <bXi> i'm trying to get mysql-workshop to work
[01:38] <bXi> and i'm following this http://www.monkeyhelper.com/2006/07/mysql_workbench_and_ubuntu_dap.html
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> rainbow1: I have 2 MSI boards running it, not sure what models though..
[01:39] <bXi> it goes wrong while compiling mysql-gui-common
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: I will look but I am not the guy for this problem...
[01:39] <arnducky> bXi there's yer problim right thar -- MySQL   switch to PostGresQL -- heh
[01:39] <juggernaut1980> did it, same error.
[01:39] <rainbow1> Jack_Sparrow: thanks!  Are they 64bit?
[01:39] <juggernaut1980> it says
[01:39] <epsi> my problem is with the Asus a6ja laptop, has anyone here encountered that problem?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> 32
[01:40] <bXi> arnducky: sure if you will fix all my stuff thats using mysql atm
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: MOuse?
[01:40] <juggernaut1980> there's a plus sign in the beginning of the file, should i delete that and save the file?
[01:40] <arnducky> bXi -- see waht I mean -- it all needs to be fixed!  ;-)
[01:40] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Odd network bug, After some downloading I get RX ERRORS and systems gets really slow and network fails
[01:40] <kzt> are you referring to the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file?
[01:41] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: if it helps i'm running 64bit here
[01:41] <ThomAnnatar> Hey guys could i use an edgy repository just for wesnoth? :P
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: sounds like a gateway config setting, I assume you have a router.?
[01:41] <juggernaut1980> no, i'm referring to the /var/lib/dpkg/available file
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi:No errors on your apt-gets?
[01:41] <bXi> nope
[01:41] <sv452> i need to sync my apt/archives file between home and work - since i dl all my stuff @ work i need to be able to have a list of what i have @ home and run that against what i have 2 work and then get to copy only the ones that is not on list from home - anybody have any idea?
[01:42] <ThomAnnatar> Guys could i use an edgy repository for wesnoth?
[01:42] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: I have this adsl-box/hub and it is connected by ethcable
[01:42] <rainbow1> Has anyone had an ASRock Alive NF4G-DVI working with dapper?
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: SOmeone will be along that can help with that..
[01:42] <kzt> i'm sorry i didn't make myself clear earlier. i suggested earlier to remove the "canonical" repository from the "/etc/apt/source.list" file by commenting it out, i.e. adding a "#" at the start of the line that refers to that
[01:42] <Jan_111> I lost my whole /usr-directory, but nothing else. Can I repair this with apt, oder dpkg oder something else?
[01:43] <kzt> as earlier, type in "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:43] <rainbow1> I've got a choice of motherboards and no clue which would be best
[01:43] <juggernaut1980> ok, i'll do that then instead
[01:43] <rainbow1> ASRock or MSI? (both 64-bit)
[01:43] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow this will take a few mins as i had suse on as it is the only linux i have got that will work with the sound but i dont like suse so am reinstalling now
[01:43] <abaldwin> I just ran that whol xserver-xorg config, but still not gettin us intl keyboard layout
[01:43] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: i hope so :)
[01:44] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  now it can't find gkrellm
[01:44] <kzt> but no errors>
[01:44] <kzt> >
[01:44] <kzt> ?
[01:45] <juggernaut1980> can you suggest another package to try?  yes, no errors....so far!  ;)
[01:45] <Lewis_> hi
[01:45] <kzt> so that would indicate that the canonical repository is the culprit
[01:45] <juggernaut1980> hmm!  great!
[01:45] <Lewis_> Does Ubuntu accept .exe files? If not, what does it accept?
[01:45] <nickspoon> Linux binaries.
[01:45] <nickspoon> or packages.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I am bumbed that I didnt link the solution to that just 2 days ago..  He would lose internet after an hour or so..
[01:46] <kzt> meaning its packages file has some non-standard character
[01:46] <kzt> anyway....
[01:46] <Lewis_> Ok, where do I get them from? If you can that is...
[01:46] <kzt> let me try the canonical repository and see whether i will get the same error
[01:46] <nickspoon> Lewis_: you run Synaptic, search for the kind of thing you want and download the package.
[01:46] <juggernaut1980> oooohhhh!!  sahweet.  ok, i'll wait for you.
[01:46] <kzt> brb
[01:46] <ThomAnnatar> oh sweet
[01:46] <drumline> Synaptic = nice
[01:46] <Lewis_> Is Synaptic a program already on the Ubuntu System?
[01:46] <sv452> does anybody have any idea on my question ?
[01:47] <bXi> Synaptic is standard on ubuntu but it isnt on kubuntu
[01:47] <nickspoon> Lewis_: yes, under System->Administration.
[01:47] <bXi> its the first thing i apt-get tho
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi:let me spend a minute and see if I can find it... You still here.?
[01:47] <Lewis_> Ok, thank you
[01:47] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: well seems like same problem, The limit seems to be around 1-2MB so light surfing it would maybe take about an hour when the problem occurs
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: system.admin.networking.dns what do you show
[01:48] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: yes, only that the cpu usage is very high after that and top doesn't show anything
[01:48] <gr8wilco> omg.. we have pirate here...
[01:48] <larryone> I'm tryiong to work out how much RAM my PIII server will take... will dmesg tell me the type of RAM the machine can use???
[01:48] <gr8wilco> :P
[01:48] <gr8wilco> +a
[01:49] <Hoxzer> Aargh can somebody inform me about the reason of gdm not loading propelly after uninstalling jackd
[01:49] <larryone> or is there some other way of finding out>
[01:49] <voraistos> isnt there ksynaptic for kubuntu ?
[01:49] <larryone> ?
[01:49] <drumline> larryone, the type?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Go to system     .admin      .networking.    click on    dns tab      what do you show
[01:49] <larryone> as in speed or whatever
[01:49] <Jan_111> I lost my whole /usr-directory, but nothing else. Can I repair this with apt, oder dpkg oder something else?
[01:49] <drumline> larryone, PC100, i think..    SDRAM
[01:49] <Lewis_> How do I install Ubuntu on one of my desktop pc's to make it run as a server? I tried this earlier and it completed, but when it booted, it was a terminal type thing only...black screen...nothing else
[01:49] <voraistos> yes
[01:49] <larryone> do all Pentium III machines take PC100????
[01:49] <voraistos> thats a server
[01:50] <kzt> i just added the canonical repository, updated and tried to install gkrellm. everything went fine. i removed the canonical repository and updated, still no errors. might have something to do with your language settings where it is encountering an error with a non-standard character.
[01:50] <drumline> larryone, I think some may do 133, but not faster than that.
[01:50] <larryone> or does it depend on the processor?
[01:50] <kzt> anyway, if what you want is install gkrellm, why would you want to add the canonical repository
[01:50] <larryone> ok
[01:50] <nickspoon> Lewis_: servers don't need GUIs.
[01:50] <larryone> well this is a dual PIII 1GHZ box
[01:50] <voraistos> waste of ram
[01:50] <larryone> voraistos, ???
[01:50] <Lewis_> I see, i'm really curious on how do run my desktop as a server. Any information?
[01:50] <voraistos> nope ;)
[01:50] <kzt> i think you just need to enable the "universe" repository
[01:50] <frying_fish> Lewis_: that's what the "server" version is.
[01:51] <drumline> larryone, don't really worry about it actually...  just make sure your RAM chips are compatible...  some 133's wont work with other 100's...  it's a pain sometimes.
[01:51] <frying_fish> as it doesn't install "X11"
[01:51] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: 2 dns servers and one  search domain
[01:51] <drumline> Lewis, use the desktop version of ubuntu.
[01:51] <larryone> aah
[01:51] <frying_fish> so you only have command line access, however you can run server programs in the desktop version, install the desktop one, then any servers you want to run just install them
[01:51] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: need specific addresses?
[01:51] <kzt> juggernaut, you still there?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: write down the one search domain then delete it for now...
[01:51] <drumline> larryone, but use SDRAM in PIII's
[01:51] <frying_fish> and from where you are to get the desktop version just: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <Lewis_> ty
[01:52] <arnducky> Lewis, do you mean you want to serve your desktop to other hosts/users ?
[01:52] <arnducky> Try tight vnc then
[01:52] <Merlin840> Okay, ive got a little problem here. I have ubuntu PPC on my Mac Mini, but i cant seem to re-install OSX on it..
[01:52] <larryone> drumline, the machine has 1BG RAM, I was trying to figure out if that's the maximum it can take... only 4 RAM slots on the motherboard
[01:52] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i want gkrellm, but i also want to install codecs for vid formats, and i'd like to watch dvd's on my box.
[01:52] <arnducky> or, um there's an integrated version in Dapper now
[01:52] <kzt> what does canonical provide?
[01:52] <drumline> larryone, that's a motherboard spec issue.  I'd suggest checking the manufacturer website.
[01:52] <Theimon> good afternoon peeps
[01:52] <Lewis_> I want to host some of my websites from my desktop pc, but i have no idea on how to do this. I'm paying about 80 per month on server-rental and I just want my own on my desktop, but don't have the slightest idea on how to.
[01:52] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok, deleted
[01:52] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i was going through a walkthrough on the ubuntu site, and it had that as an example for adding a repository.
[01:53] <juggernaut1980> i don't know what it provides, i was sort of testing.
[01:53] <drumline> larryone, but if you have the chips already, plug em in and try it...
[01:53] <frying_fish> Lewis_: ok, well install apache, once you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[01:53] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, what's wrogn with xine-ui or amarok-xine or even (ewww) mplayer?
[01:53] <larryone> drumline, it's a dell, trying to get information out of that website is like trying to draw blood from a turnip
[01:53] <frying_fish> Lewis_: then once you have done that you will need to google for some information.
[01:53] <Lewis_> Ok, ubuntu desktop is just installing the packages now
[01:53] <kzt> afaik, canonical provides only opera
[01:53] <Lewis_> Ok
[01:53] <juggernaut1980> mplayer won't install due to a conflict with an already installed program
[01:53] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: why worry with all these codecs, just install vlc
[01:53] <drumline> larryone, google?  :)
[01:53] <sv452> does anyone have some scripting knowledge ?
[01:53] <kzt> at any rate you might want to check the "RestrictedFormats" entry at wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <arnducky> Lewis_, start reading up on apache then
[01:53] <Lewis_> So in google, i just search "Installing Server on Ubuntu System"?
[01:54] <larryone> drumline, good point =0)
[01:54] <drumline> larryone, anyway..  plug em in and try it! :)
[01:54] <Theimon> could someone help me out with a serious gnome problem?
[01:54] <frying_fish> Lewis_: no, search for how to set up apache
[01:54] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  now i have an error when i use synaptic or sudo apt-get.
[01:54] <Lewis_> Ok
[01:54] <frying_fish> and stick ubuntu on it if you want.
[01:54] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: in that case, do sudo apt-get install -f
[01:54] <frying_fish> and see if it fixes it.
[01:54] <larryone> drumline, dont have a big enough budget for the project to buy RAM just to try it
[01:54] <juggernaut1980> i'll try that!  :)
[01:54] <arnducky> Lewis: sudo apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Im reading through my nores, but I did find the answer in the ubuntu system... and it involved setting the gateway address in a config file
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> notes
[01:55] <frying_fish> arnducky: he's already install the ubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <Merlin840> anyone using PPC ?
[01:55] <kzt> for your info, juggernaut1980, check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats... ok need to go now
[01:55] <drumline> larryone, ahh.. thought you had it already...  what kind of server is this anyway?
[01:55] <arnducky> frying_fish, welll, they co-exist fine
[01:55] <juggernaut1980> thanks for your help kzt!  :)
[01:55] <larryone> DELL PowerEdge 4300
[01:55] <xvxvx> hey, what gnome stuff should i load in .xinitrc when running openbox (im new to it) for automount and nm-applet (for wireless) and other handy "stuff"?
[01:55] <kzt> no problem.
[01:55] <drumline> Has anyone checked out SystemRescueCD?
[01:55] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  can you suggest a harmless package i can try to install as a test?
[01:55] <frying_fish> arnducky: indeed, but why install kde if he is already installing gnome
[01:56] <Lewis_> Could this possibly the right information: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Apache_HTTP_Server_for_HTTP_.28Web.29_Server_service ?
[01:56] <frying_fish> and the real thing he wants is to get some web stuff up, so will need apache and stuff.
[01:56] <arnducky> didn't know -- was responding to jhios 'google' question
[01:56] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  i ran sudo apt-get install -f and it did not return an error.
[01:56] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok, now the dns is removed. And by the way, I get those addresses via dhcp
[01:56] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: ok, well try and install most
[01:56] <arnducky> Lewis very good start
[01:56] <drumline> larryone, db server?
[01:56] <frying_fish> should be small
[01:56] <Theimon> I accidentally deleted /usr/share/gnome, any suggestions on how to repair this?
[01:56] <larryone> drumline, testing NX server
[01:57] <drumline> larryone, NX?
[01:57] <larryone> remote desktops rock
[01:57] <sv452> who knows how to sync synaptic packages between two pc's ??
[01:57] <nickspoon> you accidentally deleted /usr/share/gnome? how?...
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> i'll try that.
[01:57] <larryone> X/ssh
[01:57] <drumline> ahh...  gotcha
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> couldn't find package ootput
[01:57] <Theimon> i wasnt paying attention when fiddling around with something else
[01:57] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so what should I do with config files?
[01:57] <Lewis_> I have no idea on the 'How to add extra repositories' business
[01:57] <Theimon> sometimes I hate that tab-key ;)
[01:57] <ootput> juggernaut1980: which one?
[01:57] <drumline> I'd get something beefier for running those apps...
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> ah!  hahaha, i read that wrong!!
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> hahaha
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> i'm SOOO tired!
[01:57] <Jan_111> I lost my whole /usr-directory, but nothing else. Can I repair this with apt, oder dpkg oder something else?
[01:58] <arnducky> sv452, simple -- look at the File menu in Synaptic
[01:58] <arnducky> then tell us what you see
[01:58] <drumline> larryone, barebones systems with 8x the beef of that PIII can be had for sub $200
[01:58] <silent_scream> 3erete an paizei to quicktime me wine
[01:58] <silent_scream> ?
[01:58] <larryone> drumline, the only beafier thing we have a is a SPARC Solaris, and installing FreeNX on Solaris is more tricky
[01:58] <Theimon> nickspoon: i'm able to login but after that the screen stays black.any suggestions?
[01:58] <larryone> so we test on out PIII ubuntu server
[01:58] <nickspoon> umm...
[01:59] <larryone> drumline, not in Ireland =0)
[01:59] <lawine> Jan_111: the entire /usr?
[01:59] <nickspoon> Theimon: press ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:59] <Jan_111> yes
[01:59] <abaldwin> I thik I got it
[01:59] <drumline> larryone, good point...
[01:59] <Jan_111> it was on a separate partition
[01:59] <lawine> Jan_111: both apt-get and dpkg are in that dir...
[01:59] <Theimon> it will restart the xserver, i know, but after that it gives me the same problem
[01:59] <frying_fish> Lewis_: it guides you through that surely...
[01:59] <lawine> erm, _were_
[01:59] <larryone> we have a fairly small budget
[01:59] <Lewis_> Is knowledge of "How to add extra repositories" needed when installing apache?
[01:59] <frying_fish> Jan_111: how did you delete /usr?
[01:59] <frying_fish> something as root?
[01:59] <frying_fish> if so then that was stupid and you won't easily be able to fix
[01:59] <silent_scream> does wine support quicktime?
[02:00] <rixxon> is there any channel for questions regarding the ubuntu survey?
[02:00] <Lewis_> Oh, I just read that I can add extra repositories through Synaptic
[02:00] <drumline> larryone, that's always a factor.   But as long as it works, that's what matters.
[02:00] <frying_fish> silent_scream: why do you want to use something through wine for quicktime, when :mplayer (via w32 codecs) xine , vlc and others will play quicktime
[02:00] <Jan_111> Partition Magic corrputed the partition unrestorable, when decreasing a ntfs-partition...
[02:00] <charles_> My sound card is not installed, what steps must i take to fix this?
[02:00] <sv452> @ arnducky - r u refering to add downloaded packages ?
[02:00] <abaldwin> eu consequi, posso teclar como todas as marcas como
[02:00] <juggernaut1980> ARGH!!!  same error!!!!
[02:00] <arnducky> Lewis_, repos go in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <frying_fish> Jan_111: well, that was silly, most likely need a reinstall
[02:00] <drumline> larryone, meanwhile...  sleepy time for me.  Later bro!
[02:00] <larryone> drumline, we'll probably be moving it onto the Solaris machine, but it'll take a bit of hacking
[02:00] <larryone> see ye
[02:01] <nickspoon> !es
[02:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:01] <arnducky> sv452, 'save markings'
[02:01] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: pastebin the exact errors.
[02:01] <frying_fish> and then pastebin your sources.list
[02:01] <sv452> ??
[02:01] <abaldwin> that was portuguese, not spanish, and I cant seem to find Ubuntu_BR
[02:01] <nickspoon> Theimon: ctrl-alt-f1
[02:01] <silent_scream> frying_fish, because i have some video tutorials of lynda.com and total training that need wine to play and they use quicktime ;)
[02:01] <Theimon> ok hold on
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I am having no luck finding the info on that...  When I find it I will save a link or if you do please msg me with it so I will have it for next time
[02:01] <nickspoon> abaldwin: sorry, my language identification is a bit rusty ;)
[02:01] <bobz> any one about, and know how to fix teamspeak + enemy territory sound?
[02:01] <Jan_111> Can i make an repair-installation over the existing one, keeping al the configuration stuff?
[02:01] <mikeconcepts> wondering, I see several software updates today, many say dapper1, I'm on dapper
[02:02] <mikeconcepts> does it matter?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[02:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:02] <bobz> any one about, and know how to fix teamspeak + enemy territory sound?
[02:02] <abaldwin> now...twice I tried to install from thie kubunut disc, and installation hung during copying pkgs at 97% done and 10sec left...for like 20 minutes it hung, so I aborted
[02:02] <arnducky> sv452, is for when you dl something manually and want to add it to the package cache so Synaptic can manage it in the future.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Not underscore
[02:02] <progek> overand, changing my port worked
[02:02] <progek> i guess they did block it as well
[02:02] <progek> for ircd
[02:02] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24501
[02:03] <abaldwin> I succeeded in installing from a knoppix disc, so cant figure out why kubuntu hands
[02:03] <lawine> Jan_111: copy /etc/ to /home somewhere
[02:03] <frying_fish> silent_scream: but quicktime formats can be played in others players, and why do you need "wine" to play something, since wine is just an implementation of the windows api
[02:03] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[02:03] <juggernaut1980> brb sugar fix time
[02:03] <arnducky> sv452, there is an option on the File menus called 'save markings'
[02:03] <lawine> Jan_111: and then reinstall perhaps...
[02:03] <sv452> @ arnducky - see things is - i dl my packages at work and i need to know which ones i downloaded are not at home based on a list ...
[02:03] <cowcrombie> hi~
[02:04] <sv452> so what does save markings do ?
[02:04] <Jan_111> hm...has the ubuntu-desktop-cd a repair-installation option or something like that?
[02:04] <cowcrombie> just a easy question
[02:04] <Theimon> nickspoon: i get the command prompt so ctrl-alt-f1 works
[02:04] <silent_scream> frying_fish, i've already explained you. i have to install something through wine, haven't you used video tutorials?
[02:04] <cowcrombie> if i install ubuntu on my window's pc, can i still boot into window?
[02:04] <jolt> If you do it right you can cow
[02:04] <nickspoon> Theimon: sudo apt-get remove gnome
[02:04] <arnducky> sv452 try apt-cache search and zdif then
[02:04] <cowcrombie> do it right??
[02:04] <frying_fish> video tutorials? for what? what needs installing through wine, something to play quicktime? if so thats just stupid.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Jan_111: No , you cant stamp a repair over your old install
[02:05] <cowcrombie> how do you do it wrong...
[02:05] <nickspoon> Theimon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: that seems very odd
[02:05] <Theimon> ubuntu-desktop or gnome-desktop?
[02:05] <frying_fish> and not quite sure how to fix it.
[02:05] <voraistos> cowcrombie: once u have ubuntu on your PC, you will delete your windows partition.
[02:05] <nickspoon> Theimon: ubuntu-desktop.
[02:05] <Theimon> or is it the same thing?
[02:05] <Theimon> k
[02:05] <Theimon> i'll try that
[02:05] <cowcrombie> oh.... thats not good....
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Jan_111: There is a recovery mode, cli stuff...  WHat were you doing when you crashed or what did you last install
[02:05] <Jan_111> ok
[02:05] <Theimon> thx so far
[02:05] <Theimon> :)
[02:05] <nickspoon> Theimon: basically you want to uninstall gnome then reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package.
[02:06] <Lewis_> Where do I find Synaptic?
[02:06] <arnducky> frying_fish, ther wa a native Linux QT player, but Apple took it off their server -- I'd recommend searching newsgroups for it
[02:06] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: don't think that will provide what he wants, if /usr is gone, then booting to "recovery mode" from grub won't help.
[02:06] <voraistos> cowcrombie: once u have ubuntu on your PC, you will delete by yourself, because you will want to, so yes, thats good
[02:06] <abaldwin> Im going to give install another shot (running from livecd right now)
[02:06] <frying_fish> arnducky: not me looking for it, I was suggesting some players that will do quicktime stuff (such as vlc and mplayer)
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> frying_fish: Came in late only saw the last two questions
[02:06] <cowcrombie> hahah, but i have a lot of things on my PC
[02:06] <Jan_111> It crashed because of a bug in a Windows-Partition-Program. It is not the fault of ubuntu or something related.
[02:06] <abaldwin> ttfn
[02:07] <arnducky> frying_fish, last time I saw it was 2003 though so vlc + plugins might be better now
[02:07] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: thats ok, just don't want to help him get more confused.
[02:07] <frying_fish> arnducky: vlc would be better.
[02:07] <gnuts> hello everyone. My computer just went silent, I've been through the comprehensive sound how to in the forum with no avail. it was after an udate and an install of Democracy - if that matters. any help?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> frying_fish: LEts just say he is hosed eh?
[02:07] <rods> hello
[02:07] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, simple option is a reinstall
[02:07] <rods> i'm facing a strange problem..
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[02:07] <rods> the follwing:
[02:07] <voraistos> cowcrombie: you can dual-boot of course. the ubuntu installer will tell u all that. no need to worries. just dont do things like "erease entire disk". thats all
[02:07] <frying_fish> Jan_111: when you installed did you make /home separate to /
[02:07] <rods> sudo: unable to lookup rod-desktop via gethostbyname()
[02:07] <Luci3n> Hi i've got problem comfiguring the alsa sound mixer how do i change an item which is off to to on for example the ps speakers
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cowcrombie: I dual boot and I am quite happy having both XP and Uubntu available at startup
[02:08] <Theimon> well, it's installing as we speak
[02:08] <cowcrombie> so it's possible to have both windows and ubuntu installed~
[02:08] <rods> any idea?
[02:08] <jolt> cow. YES
[02:08] <cowcrombie> oooh... thats good... thanks!
[02:08] <frying_fish> rods: yep had that happen before, when it failed on getting ip and such at boottime, or dns stuff, might be easiest to reboot to fix that
[02:08] <gr8wilco> cowcrombie: sure you can
[02:08] <gr8wilco> :)
[02:08] <voraistos> cowcrombie: thats what we call dual-boot ;)
[02:08] <frying_fish> and if that fails, reboot, (to single mode) then do passwd root
[02:08] <gnuts> Luci3n: hit m while the selection is highlit
[02:08] <frying_fish> and then you can su to try and fix stuff.
[02:08] <Jan_111> i dont understand your question, but there was one partition for / und one for /usr. /home is on the partition of /
[02:08] <frying_fish> cowcrombie: yes, perfectly
[02:08] <rods> frying_fish, i've rebooted twice,,
[02:08] <cowcrombie> thanks guys!
[02:08] <cowcrombie> hahaha
[02:09] <cowcrombie> mac mini is sooo cute
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> cowcrombie: If you leave unallocated space on your hard drive and tell the installer to use that, it sets up the dual boot and everything for you automagically
[02:09] <cowcrombie> to look at
[02:09] <rods> =T didn't work
[02:09] <bobz> Any one know how to fix - I'm using Enemy Territory + Teamspeak - when i run ET i get /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy any ideas how to fix?
[02:09] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Could this be problem: lspci | grep Ethernet gives "0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8168 (rev 01)
[02:09] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  that DOES seem odd!  it won't let me install anything!  argh1
[02:09] <frying_fish> Jan_111: well in that case you can't just easily reinstall and not lose all your stuff in /home, you will need to boot a live cd and back the stuff up somewhere
[02:09] <Merlin840> its being retarded and wont re-install OSX
[02:09] <Merlin840> i need OSX on it for a customer
[02:09] <Merlin840> well, a friend that is giving me hardware for it.
[02:09] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: put the error line (about the EOF) into google and see what comes up.
[02:09] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Could it be that ethernet drivers works only partly?
[02:09] <cowcrombie> tell them mac mini's are to look at not use
[02:09] <jolt> heh i dont have /dev/dsp though my audio works.. even though alsa sees the card..
[02:09] <Luci3n> gnuts: thanks
[02:09] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  ok
[02:10] <gnuts> luci3n: welcome
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Are you using ndiswrapper or a linux driver for your card
[02:10] <rods> frying_fish, neither the networking config. panel i can open.. i can see the process running... but...
[02:10] <arnducky> Jack_Sparrow, and ntfsresize can shrink XP part'ns with empty space in them to make more room too -- or adding another physical drive is nicer
[02:10] <frying_fish> rods: I usually had that issue when I didn't get an IP at boot time,
[02:10] <cowcrombie> well i gotta go, thanks to those who helped!
[02:10] <jolt> do a defrag before you shrink an XP partition
[02:10] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not sure, What ever was installed by deafult. How can I find out?
[02:11] <jolt> also good time to delete any excess cache files and such
[02:11] <Jan_111> ok, thank you
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> arnducky: gparted can resize as part of the installation routine..
[02:11] <arnducky> jolt yes -- always and also back up your mfts and such
[02:11] <voraistos> jolt: defrag frags sometimes. not recommended. format is better.
[02:11] <rods> frying_fish, hmm this happened right after i connected my pc in a hub..
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: you would have had to install ndiswrapper...
[02:11] <jolt> Vor... Yeah if you want to get rid of windows
[02:11] <SAngeli> Hi, I need help in accieving the followings: 1) replace in Xorg "nv" with "nvidia" and therefore install nvidia drivers 2) Implement transparencies. First, could it be that I already have nvidia drivers but just need to replace nv with nvidia? If so, how to do so? manually or GUI?
[02:11] <arnducky> copy down the actual sector mappings is a good idea too
[02:11] <SAngeli> As for transparency I have to add the line "Option Composite Enable" in xorg.conf. Do I do so manually?
[02:12] <voraistos> jolt: thats exactly the point
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Google your network card and ubuntu and see what you can find.
[02:12] <boink> ndis stuff is hard
[02:12] <jolt> Unfortunately ubuntu is not at the point to replace my windows dist personally.. Least in the apps dept
[02:12] <boink> I had to give back a wg311v3 today
[02:12] <Merlin840> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263477
[02:13] <arnducky> voraistos, oh, I thought you meant copy part'n to traget; format source; copy target back to source
[02:13] <boink> !mervin
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mervin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <gnuts> anyone know why sound might completely stop all of a sudden?
[02:13] <unfknblvbl> whats a good dvd player software ?
[02:13] <jolt> Cuz it doesnt have hardware support for some devices
[02:13] <voraistos> arnducky: thats what i usually do.
[02:13] <arnducky> that actually is much faster than a defrag on very large doze part'ns
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: np yes it is easy to edit
[02:13] <unfknblvbl> vlc, and gxine don't work >.<
[02:13] <jolt> and there are apps that havent been ported/or have a similar function?
[02:13] <arnducky> (If it's more than 20%)
[02:13] <jolt> And wine isnt finished yet ...
[02:14] <Theimon> nickspoon: tough luck :/ it didn't work
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: Start by making a bakup copy from terminal type    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[02:14] <gnuts> I only use ubuntu, and now I can't listen to my music
[02:14] <rods> frying_fish, i have no idea what to do.. hehe
[02:14] <voraistos> jolt: no need to use unsupported devices.
[02:14] <arnducky> jolt -- any idea when wine is going to support 3D accel games w/directX ?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: then to edit from a terminal type    gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:15] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, one sec. I am opening it now
[02:15] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow just uploaded it
[02:15] <voraistos> arnducky: it does i think.
[02:15] <voraistos> arnducky: just needs lots of tweaking
[02:15] <arnducky> I could never even get it to run winamp video
[02:15] <arnducky> =P
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: Can you link the instructions you are following so we know where to add that composite manager line
[02:16] <SAngeli> I know where to add that.
[02:16] <SAngeli> it is under extensions section
[02:16] <Mille> howdy
[02:16] <voraistos> arnducky:i used it for nsv (winamp full), and it drained my CPU quite well, that why i use totem or gmplayer. uch better stuff.
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Could you provide a link to the page please...
[02:17] <arnducky> mplayer can handle the nullsoft wrapper now??
[02:17] <voraistos> yes
[02:17] <arnducky> wow
[02:17] <troughton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24503 Jack_Sparrow
[02:17] <voraistos> its been quite some time now
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: Did you need additional help .. nv to nvidia isnt hard..  :)
[02:17] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[02:18] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, how to switch from nv to nvidia?
[02:18] <Mille> I'm trying to make my wireless to work. Currently it's configured as eht1, i've reed somewhere that it should be wlan0? but its not. i did a iwconfig and it got a "wireless extention" thatis good. but how do I find hotspots etc?
[02:18] <arnducky> voraistos, I got a virus in my wine from the winamp msi stub!
[02:18] <voraistos> arnducky: loooooooooooooooooooool
[02:19] <arnducky> Then I went and found it on every native win pt'n I have that had winamp on it
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: you should see a line that is "nv"  just change it to "nvidia" or paste your xorg to the !pastebin and I will tell you the specific line to edit.
[02:19] <voraistos> arnducky: curse AOL
[02:19] <jolt> as long as you have the restricted package, its just a matter of switching the "nv" to nvidia in the xconfig
[02:19] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, I can do so
[02:20] <bart_> Hi all
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: acpi=off is in your grub menu... what else were we looking at.?
[02:20] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, Once I did make this change what to do to implement this change and see if it works?
[02:20] <gnuts> help please all my sound went dead
[02:20] <jolt> gnuts, you reboot?
[02:20] <troughton> the irratic mouse
[02:20] <Lewis_> I don't have Synaptic on my system... :S
[02:20] <sutherkain> hi
[02:20] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, Do I have to restart Xorg? How to?
[02:20] <sv452> is beep media player as good as xmms - which one is better ?
[02:20] <Po0dle> is this linux ubuntu channel
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: save your change and ctrl-alt-backspace... ie restart
[02:20] <bart_> Is there someone who can help me with installing ATI drivers?
[02:20] <justthisguy> Po0dle: yup
[02:20] <Po0dle> :p yay
[02:21] <Merlin840> So im guessing, no one here is proficient with PPC ?
[02:21] <Lewis_> Where can I find Synaptic? It's not under system > prferences
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: You should see an NVIDIA whote splash screen
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> white
[02:21] <Po0dle> Loading GRUB, Please wait...
[02:21] <Po0dle> Error 17
[02:21] <Lewis_> *preferences
[02:21] <rods> frying_fish found this : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78324.html
[02:21] <gnuts> jolt: yes
[02:21] <Po0dle> that's my error
[02:21] <rods> i'll try it
[02:21] <rods> brb
[02:21] <arnducky> voraistos, attached the drives to my ubuntoxen ATA controllers and used Aegis to clean them -- win32 AV engines didn't even see them.  Curse AOL indeed!
[02:22] <juggernaut1980> i found out that it's a syntax error in /var/lib/dpkg/available, but how do i fix that?
[02:22] <bart_> Someone have some time?? :)
[02:22] <leumas> hey
[02:22] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  you still here?
[02:22] <arnducky> I don't know why it wasn't all over slashdot, cnet etc...
[02:22] <janbanan> What does it make install (as root) meen? I know what make install is but what is "as root"
[02:22] <Po0dle> i get an error 17 on boot
[02:22] <leumas> man make
[02:23] <leumas> and poodle, look up error codes
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: acpi=off is in your grub menu... add acpi=no right next to it...
[02:23] <leumas> for either grub or ubuntu
[02:23] <arnducky> janbanan, use sudo in ubuntu
[02:23] <voraistos> hey guys. i was helping some dude with a mac, and we had a disconnection while i was doing hdd maintenance through ssh. do u think the guy is gonna come back? (i mean its been 30 minutes now....)
[02:23] <janbanan> thanls
[02:23] <Arrick> morning voraistos
[02:23] <MrNaz> when i am running reconfigure xorg on my box, i get "nv" as well as "nvidia" as driver options, the second one is the binary installed one correct? does this mean i have it installed correctly?
[02:23] <voraistos> lo
[02:23] <jazzrocker> !restricted
[02:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: sorry that took so long but I think it's Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter
[02:23] <der0b> can you include text in drawers?  Maybe the comment field?
[02:23] <bobz> Could some one help me with my sound?
[02:24] <juggernaut1980> right.  i have to go wake my friend up now.  y'all have a good day!  night shift out.  :P
[02:24] <leumas> lol, so this is like a help room?
[02:24] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: so does that ndiwrapper use windows network drivers for linux?
[02:24] <Arrick> leumas, its a support channel
[02:24] <troughton> ok rebooting now
[02:25] <leumas> good, i'm in the right place then :)
[02:25] <arnducky> epsi, yes that's exactly what ndiswrapper does
[02:25] <leumas> i need to know how to make my icons smaller. i'd find it myself, but i'm looking for an easy way out
[02:25] <voraistos> click right
[02:25] <voraistos> on the icons
[02:26] <epsi> arnducky: does it work fine?
[02:26] <Arrick> voraistos, ??
[02:26] <leumas> what then?
[02:26] <Po0dle> need help pls
[02:26] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: so what I have to do is to download xp drivers and use those with Ndiswrapper?
[02:26] <msikma> Hello everybody. Could someone help me with some really nasty loss of partition?
[02:26] <voraistos> help room > support channel ;)
[02:26] <leumas> :P
[02:26] <Arrick> oh ok
[02:26] <arnducky> epsi -- depends on the driver and hardware.  I've used it successfully for Broadcom wifi devices but that's all
[02:26] <TeePOG> msikma: what filesystem?
[02:27] <justthisguy> Po0dle: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=grub+error+codes+17&meta=
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I googled ubuntu dapper Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet  and found lots of info.. and it should work out of the box, unless it detected a second card ort the wrong card.
[02:27] <voraistos> leumas: did you find the stretch option ?
[02:27] <msikma> I dual boot OSX and Ubuntu, but when trying to reinstall Ubuntu I accidentally deleted my OSX partition. Or something. Whatever happened; my OSX partition is still there (with the same volume name) but it's apparently completely empty.
[02:27] <leumas> yeah, but i'm looking for something to shrink them all down
[02:27] <msikma> I'm now on the live CD.
[02:27] <jazzrocker> ok wtf: http://pastebin.ca/180666
[02:27] <justthisguy> Po0dle: First one maybe looks useful
[02:27] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow that is a lot better thank you next i dont have any sound
[02:27] <jazzrocker> synaptic won't install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[02:27] <msikma> I'd like to recover my OSX partition (which is HFS+ I think) using Ubuntu, then when I've got my OSX partition back I'd like to back up some stuff and _then_ attempt to reinstall the system...
[02:27] <bart_> Can someone pleasee help me with installing ATI drivers, I tried everything but it keeps starting mesa
[02:28] <TeePOG> hmmm msikma, i have too little experience with OSX... any idea which filesystem it uses?
[02:28] <voraistos> leumas: hmm i think you have to load nautilus to find this option
[02:28] <jazzrocker> where do I get the updated plugin and or why haven't the repo maintainers updated the plugin along with toem
[02:28] <msikma> TeePOG: HFS+
[02:28] <TeePOG> oh
[02:28] <arnducky> epsi -- try to find a linux driver first -- most gigabit NICs should have one - after all Linux is kicking the snot out of M$ in the server market
[02:28] <sasasa>
[02:28] <leumas> voraistos: how?
[02:28] <jazzrocker> or how do i revert to a previous version of totem so that the plugin works
[02:28] <janbanan> The latest kernel update really screw things up. I can't put my gdesklets att the bottom of my desktop
[02:28] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: well if lspci tell something about Realtek, it is detected wrongly?
[02:28] <drnoone> anyone has a Compro Videomate Gold Remote Control working under Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:28] <msikma> If you're knowledgeable on data recovery, maybe you could help me out? It would be great. :)
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: that is my guess.
[02:28] <gnuts> does gdebi uninstall packages?
[02:28] <minerale> I'm trying to install grub on a flash drive, does it matter if the flash drive is FAT16 ? --- how do I install grub on a flash disk? grub-install keeps telling me something about missing BIOS drive
[02:28] <voraistos> leumas: just go to places Home, but after that i am not sure where tofind the option. i am discovering as well ;)
[02:29] <sarikan> hi, could anyone help me out with wpa and static ip
[02:29] <Merlin840> mmk, im going to attempt this 1 more time, but i know its not going to work..
[02:29] <msikma> At this point I downloaded a program called TestDisk which apparently can look for lost partitions and recover data from it, but it cannot see the HFS+ partition at all.
[02:29] <Tomcat_> minerale: It shouldn't matter what fs is on the drive.
[02:29] <TeePOG> msikma: have you installed the hfsplus and hfsutils packages? that should give you some options
[02:29] <sarikan> I am using the network applet and it does not have any options for static ip
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: I need to take 5 and finish my coffee, hope you dont mind, someone will be able to help or I will return in a few, though I will be watching,lurking etc.
[02:29] <arnducky> sarikan, look up wpasuplicant
[02:29] <msikma> TeePOG: I will go do that right now.
[02:29] <arnducky> (two p's?)
[02:29] <troughton> ok m8
[02:30] <TeePOG> ok msikma... i haven't used those myself, but i imagine it's a lot like the ntfstools package...
[02:30] <Merlin840> Mac OS 9 Install Disk wont boot when I press C at boot.
[02:30] <sarikan> arnducky: just started, thanks, let me see what it is
[02:30] <msikma> TeePOG: they're installed by default on the Live CD, it seems.
[02:30] <msikma> So I have them.
[02:30] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: What would be easiest way to replace current wrong eth-driver with right one?
[02:30] <TeePOG> and the ntfstools package gives you some recovery options for corrupted ntfs partitions
[02:31] <msikma> But the thing is, I can't seem to mount my internal HFS+ hard disk (properly?)
[02:31] <ramvi> Hi there! I have a saab 93 with a navigation system. It seems that the whole thing is run of a CD (in the back of the car). And there's of cause a computer.  As a computer geek, I wonder if there is any projects to make your own cd and have the computer do more. Like play movies or anything
[02:31] <TeePOG> i don't have OSX msikma, so i'm guessing here... but type [at the console]  "hfs" and press Tab to show all the progs which you have to work with that
[02:31] <msikma> Apparently, "Mothership", my HFS+ partition, is on /dev/sda2. Double-clicking it won't mount it.
[02:32] <LadyNikon> O.o
[02:32] <drnoone> anyone has a Compro Videomate Gold Remote Control working under Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:32] <RedGhost> Is there online documentation of Linux syscalls and maybe CRT functions --something like the msdn?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: try the diskmounter script..   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:32] <msikma> TeePOG: apparently there aren't any programs I can use.
[02:32] <leumas> what can i use to mount CD images?
[02:32] <TeePOG> hmm msikma, brb
[02:32] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, I'll try that too.
[02:33] <stefg> RedGhost: you can be sure there is... the art lies in finding it :-)
[02:33] <Mille> how do i seach for hotspots in ubuntu?
[02:33] <LadyNikon> ramvi: your gpss ?
[02:33] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you anyway, I don't know did yet did this help but now I have something else to try :)
[02:33] <MrNa1> .
[02:33] <RedGhost> stefg, That helps ^^
[02:33] <epsi> -did
[02:33] <justthisguy> leumas: mount
[02:33] <leumas> that works?
[02:33] <drnoone> leumas: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[02:33] <TeePOG> msikma: there's a package called hfsutils-tcltk, which is apparently a frontend for the hfsutils package
[02:34] <ramvi> LadyNikon, yeah. I coudn't care less for the gps. but there's a nice built-in screen and a computer. linux linux ;)
[02:34] <TeePOG> wonder if that might give you options
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: np, I needed to wake up some before continuing..
[02:34] <leumas> ha, so i don't need a program if i have linux, huh?
[02:34] <LadyNikon> ramvi: ah. and what does it do?
[02:34] <msikma> TeePOG: let me download that too. I've downloaded that script, by the way, Jack_Sparrow, but how do I run it?
[02:34] <drnoone> leumas: correct
[02:34] <leumas> awesome. i knew this was a good idea
[02:34] <leumas> drnoone, while you have my attention
[02:34] <arnducky> msikma, is it fstab or mtab?
[02:34] <leumas> how do i make everything on my screen smaller without changing the resolution?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: did you save it without a file extension?  It should not need one.. Did you sve it to your desktop?
[02:35] <sasasa>
[02:35] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: to my home folder.
[02:35] <arnducky> msikma, and if so are settings correct?
[02:35] <msikma> arnducky: I have no idea. I'm not that knowledgeable with that.
[02:35] <justthisguy> leumas: depends on your window manager themes, probably
[02:35] <drnoone> leumas: try to reduce the icon size on configuration. I use KDE so, I don't know Gnome very well
[02:35] <Mille> anyone...? my wireless nic seams to be configured correctly after all. but how do I search for my wireless router?
[02:36] <ramvi> LadyNikon, it plays radio and shows a map. I want to have the world at my fingertips
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: np  after saving use terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: assuming you are in ther correct directory/folder
[02:36] <msikma> ah
[02:36] <msikma> I've got it now, I needed to change permissions :)
[02:36] <LadyNikon> ah
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: type ls to see if you are in home..
[02:37] <LadyNikon> ramvi: i wonder would any tampering on your part void the warrenty
[02:37] <msikma> Looks like the script didn't find anything.
[02:37] <househead> hello all
[02:37] <arnducky> msikma, fstab is a list of all devices automatically mounted (dismounted) including hdds fdds cdroms and scsi devs (sd[x] )
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: when you restart you will see your mounts on your desktop for easy access.
[02:37] <msikma> For the record, when I try to double-click on my HFS+ hard drive in Gnome, it says it "could not execute pmount".
[02:37] <ramvi> LadyNikon, hmm -- well.. It's a computer and I want new software
[02:37] <troughton> i cant get the sound working on my compaq presario v6000 can anyone help
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: If you dont want them on your desktop Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[02:38] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: but the thing is, I'm using the Live CD. I don't want to install anything on the hard disk because that would most likely ruin any chance I have of recovering my old files.
[02:38] <LadyNikon> ramvi: i know.. but its apart of your car right?
[02:38] <arnducky> msikma, read man fstab and browse /etc/fstab it is a VERY usefull thing to learn
[02:38] <LadyNikon> factory installed ramvi ?
[02:38] <sasasa> daposhli vi vse v zopu
[02:38] <househead> I'm having a problem with gnome-power-manager, the state doesn't change with power state, despite acpid logs and "lshal -m" showing state changes. Anyone experienced this before? On a previous dapper install only last week it was fine on the same hardware
[02:38] <LadyNikon> sasasa: english please
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: THen we may need to edit your /etc/pmount.allow to include that drive
[02:39] <Lewis> How do I use remote desktop on my Ubuntu system? I'm unsure how to do this because when i type the adress of my Ubuntu computer into my windows laptop for Remote desktop, It cannot find the adress...
[02:39] <Po0dle> can someone pls elp me with grub loading error 17
[02:39] <anonymeeee> what package do I need to view/copy dvd's?
[02:39] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps. What would I need to add there to mount /dev/sda2?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[02:39] <arnducky> Jack_Sparrow, will that work without a correct fstab and/or mtab entry?
[02:39] <househead> Lewis: linux doesn't use the remote desktop server service, try vnc
[02:40] <msikma> I'd just like to mount it so that I can try to run TestDisk on it... that program could possibly recover my data.
[02:40] <LadyNikon> ramvi: i mean.. a warrenty on a computer i would toss to the wind in a heart beat.. but on a car i would think twice about.. at least til its no longer under warrenty
[02:40] <Neo8750> rc  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-7-generic <IP_ADDRESS>-1                           Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 gene <--- what does the rc at start of line mean?
[02:40] <Lewis> Ok, so I can download this from Synaptic?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> arnducky: he should have correct fstab since he ran diskmounter..  but we can look at fstab to be sure.
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[02:40] <leumas> i have a larger problem now
[02:40] <arnducky> ah, so.
[02:40] <LadyNikon> ramvi: actually i just thought about the age of your car.
[02:40] <LadyNikon> ramvi: probably doesnt matter
[02:41] <Po0dle> he
[02:41] <LadyNikon> i am just waking up :D
[02:41] <househead> Lewis: yeah, apt-get install tightvnc, then read the manual on how to set it up. google is your friend
[02:41] <Po0dle> pls help
[02:41] <msikma> I only have two lines in my fstab, Jack_Sparrow.
[02:41] <arnducky> good morning everyone -- msut run away before the sun comes up
[02:41] <LadyNikon> Po0dle: have you checked the forums?
[02:41] <Po0dle> yes
[02:41] <msikma> The script that I ran did not find any usable Mac/Windows drives.
[02:41] <LadyNikon> alright class time
[02:41] <justthisguy> Po0dle: Didn't I answer your question a while back?