[05:29] <scunizi> etfb: google xrandr for cli tools to change your configuration
[05:29] <lordmortis> how can i manually set a screen resolution in 9.10 ?
[05:30] <FAJ> scunizi: adduser testy then follow what it says?
[05:30] <lordmortis> (the display i'm using sends bad EDIDs)
[05:30] <acclaimtech> yes that will allow you to edit your current config of X
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> lordmortis: Use TwinView if possible. Perhaps via xorg.
[05:30] <scunizi> FAJ: naw.. what you're doing is creating a functional user and password for that user..
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> !fixres | lordmortis
[05:30] <lordmortis> i'll take a look, cheers
[05:30] <acclaimtech> make sure you copy your old config file to a safe place
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> lordmortis: No problem. Good luck.
[05:30] <scunizi> FAJ: yep.. but I thought the commnad was "useradd testy"
[05:31] <FAJ> scunizi: same error as before....
[05:31] <acclaimtech> anyone in here good with vmware workstation running on a Karmic host?
[05:31] <FAJ> scunizi: ok testy....
[05:31] <FAJ> scunizi,,, same error...
[05:31] <scunizi> FAJ: sudo useradd testy
[05:32] <kinja-sheep> tasty
[05:32] <FAJ> scunizi: it says it created a home directory /home/testy
[05:32] <scunizi> FAJ: cool.. now sudo passwd testy
[05:33] <FAJ> scunizi: but if/when i try to log in, it gives me that error about it not existing...
[05:33] <scunizi> FAJ: this was after creating a user and password for that user?
[05:34] <acclaimtech> There's too much confusion... I can't get no relief
[05:34] <FAJ> scunizi: yes....
[05:34] <acclaimtech> ;)
[05:34] <etfb> scunizi, Woohoo!  it works!
[05:34] <FAJ> scunizi: and then a load of other errors about this and that...
[05:34] <etfb> scunizi, Not exactly what I'd call "ready for the desktop" yet, but hell, it beats Vista...
[05:34] <Out_Cold> just got me a new eeepc XD
[05:35] <acclaimtech> etfb: oh I think this is 100 times better than 7 or vista
[05:35] <scunizi> FAJ: let's backtrack a little.. you originally had your /home in the same partition that housed your / (root)?  and then you created a new partition to move /home there?
[05:35] <acclaimtech> it does exactly what i tell it to
[05:35] <acclaimtech> and nothing more
[05:35] <scunizi> etfb: so xrandr worked?
[05:35] <FAJ> scunizi:  no /home has always had it's own partition.
[05:35] <acclaimtech> and doesn't need rebooted 10 times a day or anything
[05:35] <scunizi> FAJ: did it move ?
[05:35] <tarski> how can i get gstreamer in firefox to stop asking if i want to search for a suitable plugin?
[05:35] <FAJ> scunizi: home is owned by root..... with drw0r00r00
[05:35] <FAJ> scunizi: i made it bigger
[05:36] <etfb> scunizi, Yep.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[05:36] <scunizi> FAJ: ah.. perhaps the uuid for the partition changed.. try .. sudo blkid .. and then compair the uuid of the /home partition to what is listed in /etc/fstab for that same parititon with the /home setting..
[05:36] <osmosis> i got no microphones working with a Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audi
[05:36] <Out_Cold> tarski, install the suitable plugin from synaptic?
[05:37] <etfb> scunizi, Now rebooting to see if it sticks, but I'd say we're done here.  Thank you!
[05:37] <tarski> Out_Cold: no, there's no plugin i want to install for that codex i just want it to STOP prompting me
[05:37] <scunizi> etfb: cool.. xrandr is suppose to make things easier.. but.. when you're use to xorg it's somewhat a mystery
[05:37] <FAJ> scunizi: same....
[05:38] <JohnTeddy> What is the best music client to use with ubuntu 9.10?
[05:38] <FAJ> !best
[05:38] <scunizi> FAJ: when you made the drive bigger did you stretch it on the beginning side or the end of the partition.. (not sure that will tell us anything though)
[05:38] <JohnTeddy> What is the best music client to use with ubuntu 9.10 according to whoever answers this question?
[05:39] <FAJ> scunizi: stretched it on the beginning, stretched it towards the front of the drive...
[05:39] <syn-ack> JohnTeddy: Please reread the message.
[05:39] <scunizi> JohnTeddy: depends on what you like.. Rhythmbox, Amorak, songbird etc..
[05:39] <acclaimtech> What's the maximum color depth available in Karmic?
[05:39] <scunizi> FAJ: do you have an external HD that we can copy your data to?
[05:39] <JohnTeddy> I'll try amorak and songbird, thanks.
[05:39] <acclaimtech> is it 16.7 million colors?
[05:39] <FAJ> scunizi.... not on me right now... i have an internal with room....
[05:40] <scunizi> acclaimtech: might say 24 but it's really 32 bit.. with the appropriate drivers..
[05:40] <FAJ> /dev/sdb1
[05:40] <acclaimtech> how do I configure the nvidia X server driver to be 32 bit?
[05:40] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. I've forgotten .. where's the data living? /home/louie or /home/louis
[05:40] <FAJ> scunizi: but i am not sure which... yah idk...
[05:40] <FAJ> scunizi: louis
[05:40] <scunizi> acclaimtech: check in System>Admin>Hardware drivers and activate the nvidia driver.
[05:41] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo mv /home/louis /media/Misc./home/louis
[05:41] <FAJ> ?
[05:41] <FAJ> scunizi: should i pop in a livecd and do it from there?
[05:41] <scunizi> FAJ: try sudo ls /home/louis and see what that produces
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> i cheat and use the mc file manager FAJ  :)
[05:41] <FAJ> scunizi:  yah that's the one.
[05:41] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: does that work on cli?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  of course. its a text based file manager
[05:42] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. and what is the other partition?  /media/?????
[05:42] <FAJ> Misc.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  i always use it for my 'root' file manager needs
[05:42] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo mv /home/louis /media/Misc./home/louis
[05:42] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: didn't know that
[05:42] <acclaimtech> scunizi: this is weird I have installed the latest nvidia driver downloaded from nivida's website (190) but it says in hardware drivers that 185 is activated
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  great for ssh ussage also. its a top 10 must have tool. :)
[05:42] <FAJ> scunizi: thatsa gonna take some time...
[05:42] <scunizi> FAJ: no.. sudo cp -R /home/louis /media/Misc./louis
[05:43] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: in the repos? if so sodo apt-get install mc?
[05:43] <ubuntu0o1> interestingly laborious way to reach the support channel
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yep
[05:43] <FAJ> scunizi:  ok added a v so i could watch and see how far it is....
[05:43] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: thanks!  new toy to pla with
[05:43] <acclaimtech> brb
[05:43] <FAJ> scunizi: will take some time...
[05:44] <KayAteChef> ubuntu0o1: what?
[05:44] <FAJ> scunizi: brb
[05:44] <scunizi> FAJ: ok..
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yep - it can do ssh/sftp/other things also
[05:44] <TangentCollision> hello
[05:44] <TangentCollision> I am having trouble with the alternate install from USB
[05:44] <Darkedge> blakkheim: uhm not really, it only lags when the website is a flash page, or it uses alot of flash objects...
[05:44] <ubuntu0o1> KayAteChef: reg this, confirm that,,,,
[05:44] <blakkheim> Darkedge: then there's your problem
[05:44] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: running on the remote server? or local and copy to remote?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yes to both :)
[05:45] <KayAteChef> oh on the web forum
[05:45] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: cool
[05:45] <KayAteChef> yeah I never log in
[05:45] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:45] <ubuntu0o1> i don*t remember these channels being overloaded with spam before - did something happen?
[05:45] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: gad.. it's been a while since I've used screen and "split" the screen to have a terminal on bottom and irssi on top :).. almost forgot how.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu0o1:   only seen some idiot dcc spammer here the last fe3w days
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  mc has a terminal built in. :)  i rarely split screen screen howver.
[05:46] <FAJ> scunizi:  will it copy in any order?
[05:46] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:46] <scunizi> FAJ: not that I'm aware of
[05:47] <FAJ> scunizi: well it's copying away,,, idk if this is the best way to do it... we will seee...
[05:48] <ubuntu0o1> shame about the spammers, at least the instructions are crystal clear (i think)
[05:48] <Darkedge> blakkheim: *coughsisthereanywaytostopthemasivelagcoughs*
[05:48] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:48] <blakkheim> Darkedge: don't use flash / steal the source code from adobe and GPL it / get a better cpu
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  how did you make the usb flash device bootable?
[05:49] <scunizi> FAJ: perhaps.. after it copies you'll have to .. sudo chown -R testy:testy /home/testy .. or similar syntax to make sure testy owns all the files.
[05:49] <Darkedge> blakkheim: -_-
[05:49] <TangentCollision> Dr_Willis: tried unetbootin and ubuntu's "USB installer (pendrivelinux.com) for 9.10"
[05:49] <blakkheim> Darkedge: it's proprietary software, there's nothing else you can do
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> its amazing  how much CPU flash can steal.
[05:49] <TangentCollision> neither of which work
[05:49] <FAJ> scunizi:  didn't we already try that....
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  ive seen others with similer issues.. but no idea on the fix. ive never had he issue.
[05:49] <TangentCollision> how did you manage to do it then?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  unetbootin worrked for me last i tried it with alternative installer.
[05:50] <Darkedge> blakkheim: -_- is there some alternitives to doing basic things like Youtube? >.>
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  or you could try making a grub2 boot usb that uses the iso file i guess
[05:50] <blakkheim> Darkedge: afraid not bro. you can look into gnash but it's pretty sucky
[05:50] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, did you make the usb while in the live cd?
[05:50] <scunizi> FAJ: then if you can login as testy and get a gui AND use the files as testy's own.. then you can either keep that account and delete the others or delete the others and then recreate the one you want.. copy the data back to the right user .. rinse and repeate
[05:50] <TangentCollision> Out_Cold: no
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  google was working on its own openm video format i recall.
[05:50] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, try that
[05:50] <Darkedge> blakkheim: is it as slow? >.>
[05:50] <blakkheim> Darkedge: never tried it
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  and the divx guys have decent streaming features also
[05:51] <Darkedge> Dr_Willis: ok thanks :)
[05:51] <TangentCollision> Out_Cold: there's not really much of a "liveCD" here, man
[05:51] <blakkheim> Darkedge: you can download every youtube video and then play it locally in mplayer, that shouldn't lag
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  so yes. there are alternatives to using flash video. LOADS of alternatives
[05:51] <TangentCollision> Out_Cold: and what EXACTLY would you accomplish by "making the USB in the liveCD"
[05:51] <ubuntu0o1> not sure what youre looking for, TangentCollision - any chance you could recap for us who recently joined?
[05:52] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: you were here :P
[05:52] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:52] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, while in the cd, you can make a casper (persistent) usb. I've tried without and couldn't do it until i was live
[05:52] <TangentCollision> so you say I should casper it?
[05:52] <TangentCollision> I can remake with casper
[05:53] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, why not? that way you can customize
[05:53] <TangentCollision> ...?
[05:53] <FAJ> scunizi:  did that, not in.
[05:53] <ubuntu0o1> ok i got that, but what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <Out_Cold> i think you can install still
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin really needd a feature to make a casper-rw save file
[05:53] <scunizi> FAJ: done copying? and tried to get in? resulting in no gui?
[05:53] <TangentCollision> I'm trying to alternate install for minimal, ubuntu0o1
[05:53] <FAJ> scunizi: just went to another tty-
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  it could be the alternative installer cant handle it.. i dont recall using the alt installer on usb. I THINK i tried it once ages ago and it worked.. but its been at least  a year ago
[05:54] <scunizi> FAJ: you might need to reinstall ubuntu desktop.. not a full install.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: ok.. got mc loaded and can't seem to figure out how to exit.. hint?
[05:54] <FAJ> scunizi: but that's not what's wrong; it doesn't recognize my /home....
[05:54] <TangentCollision> that would be the only way I can use the alternate installer
[05:54] <TangentCollision> great
[05:54] <scunizi> FAJ: hang on.
[05:55] <TangentCollision> that's just amazing
[05:55] <acclaimtech> Scunizi: I rebuilt the nvidia driver but it still says only version 185 is able to be activated
[05:55] <ubuntu0o1> maybe i missed a meeting - but, alternate install on usb?
[05:55] <acclaimtech> should I revert back to version 185?
[05:55] <scunizi> acclaimtech: rebuilt with what? the binary direct from nvidia?
[05:56] <acclaimtech> yes
[05:56] <TangentCollision> only bloody ubuntu would make the one iso that caters to minimal install, but is limited by needing a CD
[05:56] <FAJ> scunizi:  what should the perms on /home be?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  hit the f key that corsponds to the 'edit; item at the bottom;
[05:56] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: or usb drive?
[05:56] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: one, I'm surprised you have the only ubuntu name in here. two, I'm trying to alt-install FROM usb TO usb
[05:56] <scunizi> acclaimtech: you can't have the ubuntu driver installed while you install the nvidia binary.. you have to remove the ubuntu supplied one and then reinstall the nvidia binary
[05:56] <aalex_> hello
[05:56] <acclaimtech> ah
[05:57] <Alan502> Someone help me get my samba back!
[05:57] <TangentCollision> blakkheim: it "requires" a cd drive
[05:57] <tarski> anyone know how i can get gstreamer to stop prompting me to install plugins for codex that I dont want to install?
[05:57] <aalex_> How long does it take for a package to appear in a PPA ?
[05:57] <scunizi> FAJ: not sure.. 755?
[05:57] <aalex_> on https://launchpad.net/~alexandre-quessy/+archive/sat
[05:57] <FAJ> scunizi:  and on /home/louis
[05:57] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: i used a usb drive to do a minimal install on a system
[05:57] <TangentCollision> 's what I'm trying to say
[05:57] <acclaimtech> ok I'll just remove all nvidia from synaptic and then install the 190
[05:57] <acclaimtech> brb
[05:57] <TangentCollision> blakkheim: what ISO?
[05:57] <tarski> anyone know how i can get gstreamer to stop prompting me to install plugins for codex that I dont want to install? It happens in firefox, and I want it to stop
[05:57] <ubuntu0o1> okey dokey, i did guess right then
[05:57] <ubuntu0o1> persistent usb install
[05:57] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[05:58] <TangentCollision> netboot doesn't come with wireless drivers
[05:58] <ubuntu0o1> from alternate iso
[05:58] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: lol, you didn't say anything about that
[05:58] <TangentCollision> blakkheim: the alternate ISO doesn't NEED wireless drivers, the information is all there
[05:58] <FAJ> scunizi: getting somewhere; that isn't showing up, now it's just ~/.dmrc
[05:58] <TangentCollision> it just won't access it because it's not on a CD-ROM
[05:58] <TangentCollision> which is absolutely infuriating
[05:59] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: F10 doesn't work.. F9 does.
[05:59] <scunizi> FAJ: /home/louis also 755 for the owner.. I would think
[05:59] <FAJ> scunizi: almost there.
[05:59] <FAJ> tty is now open in ~ not /
[06:00] <ubuntu0o1> why does it have to be the alternate iso, TangentCollision?
[06:00] <FAJ> scunizi: just chmodded ~/.dmrc to what they wanted
[06:00] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: because netboot has no wireless drivers
[06:00] <TangentCollision> therefore, netboot won't work
[06:00] <kinja-sheep> !alternative | ubuntu0o1
[06:00] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  no dice still...think i will give up for the night
[06:00] <kinja-sheep> ubuntu0o1: "a wider range of hardware" :o
[06:00] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. I really don't know what ~/.dmrc is.. so you're ahead of me there.
[06:00] <TangentCollision> !minimal
[06:01] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Sorry. :\
[06:01] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  still getting the firmware errors in the logs
[06:01] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: maybe because I'm running it in screen ??
[06:01] <djdarkman> hello, is this the place to ask Ubuntu Netbook questions?
[06:02] <FAJ> scunizi: so now i just need to have the /home/louis to be owned by louie,  which i am doing now with a chown -R
[06:02] <kinja-sheep> djdarkman: Yes. And welcome.
[06:02] <TangentCollision> djdarkman: UNR is horrible for netbooks ironically
[06:02] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: true
[06:02] <EmLeX> yeye
[06:02] <EmLeX> :)
[06:02] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. :)
[06:03] <ubuntu0o1> alternate, then minimal - and then wireless
[06:03] <FAJ> scunizi: well that may have been stupid, we will seee thouigh.
[06:03] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: got it.. had to unsplit screen and then use F9 to get to the menu and find exit
[06:03] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: that right there makes no sense
[06:04] <FAJ> scunizi: well half way there..... no errors this time, but it's not loading...
[06:04] <scunizi> FAJ: :(
[06:04] <castle`> hello, could someone help me with F2 + gconf-editor?  I made my home directory my desktop, but I wanted to change it back to Directory, and when I unchecked "desktop _is_ home directory" nothing changed
[06:04] <FAJ> scunizi: but its still copying all of my /home/ too, so it might be working uber hard...
[06:04] <ubuntu0o1> do we know why a live cd is of no use?
[06:05] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: because it's a live CD
[06:05] <ubuntu0o1> if the wifi drivers are on there?
[06:05] <TangentCollision> and wants a CD
[06:05] <scunizi> FAJ: yes.. while copying things move a LOT slower..
[06:05] <ubuntu0o1> ok
[06:05] <TangentCollision> if I had a CD, I could load the madwifi or ath5k driver
[06:06] <TangentCollision> and net install from there, but this is not the case
[06:06] <ubuntu0o1> so, persistent usb install of live cd
[06:06] <FAJ> scunizi: idk how can i check how much longer on the cp???
[06:06] <FAJ> i mean it's just cping away...
[06:07] <FAJ> onto .wine.... if that shows a difference.
[06:07] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: enlighten me, what the hell are you talking about?
[06:07] <scunizi> FAJ: nope.. there isn't a way as far as I know
[06:07] <castle`> hello, could someone help me with F2 + gconf-editor?  I made my home directory my desktop, but I wanted to change it back to Directory, and when I unchecked "desktop _is_ home directory" nothing changed
[06:07] <ubuntu0o1> im trying to work out what youre on about, but forget it
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> castle`:  you may need to logout/back in for that.  the 'ubuntu-tweak' tool also lets you change that and more
[06:08] <ubuntu0o1> look at backtrack install docs, you might work out what you need from there
[06:09] <castle`> Dr_Willis, i have tried logging in/out as well as rebooting, but I have not seen the ubuntu-tweak tool so I'll check it out
[06:09] <castle`> thanks
[06:09] <rcscomp> my ubuntu 9.10 system just crashed.  What logs would I look at to try and trace down the problem?
[06:09] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: I'm trying to install ubuntu from the livecd that was converted using unetbootin then copied onto the USB stick. The USB stick was booted flawlessly, but when I get to the third step "Detect and mount CD-ROM" it will not mount the non-existant CD-ROM or the USB stick I have right in front of me
[06:10] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: that is "what [I'm] on about"
[06:10] <FAJ> scunizi:  done copying
[06:11] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. we just got done copying everything to a seperate partition.. right?
[06:11] <TangentCollision> is just everything about ubuntu completely arbitrary?
[06:11] <FAJ> scunizi: yes......  and when logging in... no errors, but it just doesn't work...
[06:11] <scunizi> FAJ: you gotta live cd there?
[06:11] <FAJ> mhmm
[06:12] <FAJ> scunizi: boot into it?
[06:12] <TangentCollision> then thank you all for reminding me why I stopped trying to use ubuntu, good bye
[06:13] <lgc> How is it that when I iconize a window it gets lost on the right of my panel?
[06:13] <ubuntu0o1> good luck with your next choice of distro then :D
[06:14] <scunizi> FAJ: what I'm thinking is to boot to it.. reinstall.. using the initial user setup as louie as a user name and do manual partitioning so you can avoid formatting the /home partition.. just make sure you name it or tag it as home during the install.. shouldn't take that long really.
[06:14] <ubuntu0o1> i wonder what the fateful "third step" was on his odyssey?
[06:14] <FAJ> scunizi: louis is in /home/louis
[06:14] <scunizi> FAJ: yea.. louis or louie.. your choice.. :)
[06:15] <FAJ> scunizi: no not that; what do i need; do i want it to match it as /home/louis or not?
[06:15] <FAJ> b/c if i say /home/louie it will make a new /home
[06:16] <lgc> Yo! Where can I tweak in order to avoid my iconized windows disappear on the right of the panel?
[06:16] <scunizi> FAJ: yes.. on install it will ask for the users name.. enter louis.. create a password.. choose manual partitioning so you can point the partitioner to the /home partition.. and set the / and /swap where they currently are.. DONT format /home for format the others..
[06:16] <xangua> ¿¿
[06:17] <FAJ> scunizi: i am in livecd; i mounted /home, can i delete all the other users?
[06:17] <scunizi> FAJ: sure
[06:17] <a2f> anyone have a newzbin invite? could reeeeeally use one :)
[06:21] <herpez> hi, on grub 2 i want to comment the old kernels and recovery, how can i do it?
[06:22] <FAJ> scunizi: working now.
[06:23] <scunizi> FAJ: GREAT
[06:23] <FAJ> scunizi: yah... if it works.  i was not expecting to do this at all....
[06:24] <FAJ> scunizi:  but now i know if i need to i have my /home backed up, so i can rm if i really need to
[06:24] <scunizi> FAJ: I was running out of ideas.. yep. you're right
[06:24] <dbm> oi oi
[06:24] <FAJ> scunizi: i had this problem before; there was an easier way around it; but i didn't remember what it was i did. and i was frustrated b/c it was like ppl on here who helped me fix it...
[06:25] <dbm> whats ya doing ing down town..
[06:25] <dbm> ubuntu rox
[06:25] <dbm> \m/
[06:25] <lucky> Ubuntu simply will not wake up from sleep on my Toshiba NB305 :(
[06:25] <dbm> 9.04 i mean.. 9.10 its crap
[06:25] <dbm> ;p
[06:26] <scunizi> dbm: please... you're trolling
[06:26] <ie> when is the next kernel
[06:26] <ie> april?
[06:27] <rww> ie: The next version of Ubuntu is coming out in April.
[06:28] <scunizi> ie: that doesn't mean that your version of ubuntu won't get a kernel upgrade between now and then..
[06:28] <ubuntu0o1> i cant even get a kernel after 24 to boot on my jaunty laptop
[06:28] <ie> heh I didint install 9.10 yet, I can wait 3 months i guess lol
[06:28] <scunizi> ie: but it won't be a huge leap..
[06:29] <DNS777> 9.10 rox :)
[06:30] <ie> you dont want an OS that rocks
[06:30] <nigtv> Hi, I was having trouble with the split command, I have tried a good number of arrangements, the latest 'split -b 1250 m file prefix" and keep getting either an "extra operand prefix" or "invalid bite size" or "cannot open m"
[06:31] <nigtv> also tried split --bytes=1250M (and a bunch of other arrangements of that) etc
[06:31] <DNS777> i dont want an system with an IE, i mean internet explorer lol
[06:31] <One``> Ugh, being re-directed to another channel is annoying. I didn't realise it wasn't the correct channel
[06:31] <DNS777> btw why you have this nick, ie?
[06:32] <One``> So here's my question (again). I am having difficulty accessing my computer via the Internet. I can't access it at all.. it's never been set up to be accessed before. I've set everything up in port forwarding. I disabled ufw which I don't think was on to begin with and had a look at iptables and everything looks friendly
[06:32] <Flannel> One``: How are you trying to access it?
[06:33] <One``> I am trying to access the Transmission web interface in a browser
[06:33] <One``> I also tried setting up SSH
[06:33] <FAJ> scunizi: kk restarting.
[06:33] <nigtv> hey i got it yay
[06:33] <One``> It all works with localhost.. but not on the net.
[06:34] <Flannel> One``: I'm not familiar with transmission, but if it's just a web interface, that's simple enough.  Can you access them from another computer within the LAN?
[06:34] <ie> DNS777 something that rocks, it will hurt you
[06:34] <ubuntu0o1> hehe, transmission web interface
[06:34] <ie> DNS777 because its two letters lol
[06:34] <One``> LAN is ok.
[06:34] <scunizi> FAJ: ? how did it go?
[06:34] <One``> I swear the port forwarding is correct.. but it doesn't seem to be working
[06:35] <FAJ> scunizi: logging in now...
[06:35] <FAJ> nope.
[06:35] <FAJ> same thing as last time...
[06:35] <Flannel> One``: You're using 22 and 80?  Try changing ssh to something else, and forwarding that.  Some ISPs block things from 22 and 80
[06:35] <scunizi> arg.. sorry I'm out of ideas FAJ .. I hope you run into someone that can help.. perhaps Flannel ? :)
[06:35] <One``> 9091 for transmission
[06:35] <FAJ> Flannel: can you help me out; i am able to log in, but nothing ever shows up?
[06:35] <scunizi> FAJ: I gotta go.. nighty night.. good luck
[06:36] <FAJ> thx scunizi
[06:36] <Diverdude> I am using thunderbird, and I want to start using evolution. How do I port my entire email databse from thunderbird to evolution?
[06:36] <Flannel> FAJ: What do you mean nothing shows up?
[06:36] <FAJ> Flannel: i get a background..... and nothing else loads...
[06:37] <Flannel> FAJ: Hm.  At GDM, under sessions, choose "safe gnome" or whatever it's called (is it still called that? heh)  Does that help?
[06:37] <Flannel> FAJ: does this affect all users or just you?
[06:37] <ubuntu0o1> what does transmissionbt forum say about the web interface? does it work again/still?
[06:37] <FAJ> Flannel: only one user
[06:38] <FAJ> Flannel: sigh no same thing; generic background; no loading.
[06:38] <Flannel> FAJ: Alright, well, since its only one user, you know its a configuration something or other.  You can certainly log in if you removed (by moving/renaming) the gnome config folders.
[06:39] <FAJ> Flannel: idk how to do that?  sorreee.
[06:40] <Flannel> FAJ: You'll need to log in to the terminal (ctrl-alt-f1, then log in) and use mv (mv source destination) to move some of your folders.  I'm... not really sure which ones.  But we can look once we're there.
[06:41] <Flannel> FAJ: `ls -al` while in your homedir will list things, they'll be .gnome* or maybe .g* I'm not really up to date on what config files gnome handles.  Someone else would be able to check with their own systems and tell you for su
[06:41] <Flannel> for sure
[06:42] <FAJ> Flannel: looks like connection refused. opened up failsafe terminal and fails to get connection.... should i try to create a new user....?  and then copy and paste stuff??? i have done that before.... can you walk me through that please?
[06:43] <Flannel> FAJ: Connection refused?  What?    Is this remote or something?
[06:43] <FAJ> Flannel: no in failsafe terminal trying to run nautilus
[06:44] <Flannel> FAJ: We're not going to use a GUI to move those files.  We're going to drop into the terminal to do so.  Another user wouldn't be able to either.
[06:44] <FAJ> Flannel: ok in tty
[06:45] <FAJ> Flannel: i already have this whole home folder backed up...
[06:45] <Awesome3000> I have a problem with my sound volume reseting to zero
[06:45] <Flannel> FAJ: Alright, mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2bak; mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconfbak
[06:45] <Flannel> FAJ: then ctrl-alt-f7 and try logging in again
[06:45] <FAJ> will that then recreate the other ones?  ok will do
[06:46] <Flannel> FAJ: That will copy them to somewhere they won't be used
[06:46] <Flannel> FAJ: Gnome will recreate what it needs when it starts up and sees there's nothing there
[06:46] <FAJ> done
[06:47] <FAJ> ahhhh
[06:47] <FAJ> Flannel: that worked.... kinda... well like all my prefs are gone..... :\
[06:48] <Flannel> FAJ: Indeed.  We took that all away to make sure you could log in.  If you want now, you can pick through those old config files and try and figure out exactly what was causing the problem through process of elimination
[06:48] <FAJ> Flannel: there is nothing in the other files...
[06:50] <FAJ> Flannel: do you think it would be prudent to try to copy all from my backup into the new dirs and see what happens?
[06:50] <Flannel> FAJ: Which new dirs?
[06:50] <FAJ> into .gconf and .gnome2
[06:50] <chen> my panals keep disappearing and when they reappear my alltray minimizied applications are gone. any help?
[06:51] <FAJ> Flannel: like i want my theme etc back...
[06:52] <Flannel> FAJ: If you want to try it, sure, go ahead.  You'll eventually find the thing that caused it to break, and next time you'll have to remember to not add that back in
[06:52] <FAJ> Flannel: do you know where stuff like my prefs would be saved...
[06:52] <Flannel> FAJ: Those two folders, that's as specific as I know.
[06:52] <Flannel> Also, it really depends on what kind of preferences
[06:53] <chen> my panals keep disappearing and when they reappear my alltray minimizied applications are gone. any help please?
[06:53] <tarski> is there a way using synaptic to install older versions of apps in the repository
[06:54] <usrv> Anyone: I am having issues with a 9.10 server install. Details: raided home directory with root and swap on a separate drive. When I boot I get a black screen with a blinking prompt. I think it's a grub issue because of the raid but don't know how to fix it.
[06:56] <chen> Flannel: my panals keep disappearing and when they reappear my alltray minimizied applications are gone. any help please?
[06:59] <FAJ> Flannel: now whenever i try to do stuff, i am told permission denied
[07:00] <FAJ> like put a folder on my desktop.
[07:00] <dahlia> how can I disable pulseaudio and still use gnome?
[07:02] <kinja-sheep> dahlia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[07:04] <FAJ> HELP
[07:05] <Colloguy> how can I play an HDVD-9 disk on Ubuntu?
[07:05] <geitenneuker> heh ubuntu devs. please remove this daily update crap xupdate xapi
[07:05] <Colloguy> apparently some wierd format in-between DVD and HD-DVD ...
[07:05] <geitenneuker> nobody needs a daily upgrade check, weekly is OK
[07:06] <geitenneuker> and start this crappy update-xapi crap with priority 19, not with 0 its a cpu hog crap
[07:08] <petsounds> geitenneuker, just open software sources>updates tab and change automatic updates to weekly.
[07:08] <geitenneuker> petsounds: it should be default weekly
[07:08] <geitenneuker> i know how to change this stuff
[07:09] <geitenneuker> but my friends get mad with such a setting
[07:10] <geitenneuker> the script who calls update-xapi should be started with nice 19 update-xapi whatever
[07:10] <ubuntu0o1> or just disable auto check, it'll still go off the scale whenever it feels like it
[07:10] <Coded1> I am getting wifi on my ubuntu 9.10 box but want to share it with multiple computers via ethernet to a small switch.  I was reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and it has a vague explanation in telling me which connection (LAN/WAN) you have to set to "Shared to other computers"
[07:11] <geitenneuker> ubuntu: i solve the problems by fixing it. i think the ubuntu developers should know about this crappy xapi issue
[07:11] <geitenneuker> it makes a 1.8ghz laptop busy for 10 minutes
[07:11] <ubuntu0o1> amen to that
[07:12] <geitenneuker> yeah amen
[07:13] <geitenneuker> god praise the dog
[07:13] <geitenneuker> if i said that in ireland, i made a major felony
[07:15] <geitenneuker> is there a setting to increase the file cache?
[07:16] <Awesome3000> geitenneuker  Do you mean SWAP
[07:17] <geitenneuker> no
[07:17] <geitenneuker> file cache
[07:17] <geitenneuker> swap is virtual memory
[07:17] <geitenneuker> i know how to use mkswap
[07:18] <Awesome3000> What do you mean by file cache
[07:18] <geitenneuker> exactly what it explains
[07:18] <geitenneuker> caching files into the ram
[07:19] <Awesome3000> Sorry i don't understand
[07:19] <geitenneuker> is there such a volatile setting to reserve more memory for the file caching?
[07:21] <Coded1> geitenneuker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182764
[07:22] <settntrenz> upgrade to karmic broke vmware server 2.0.1, I'm currently downloading 2.0.2. To upgrade should I uninstall old version first?
[07:23] <geitenneuker> ah
[07:23] <geitenneuker> i do not need a ramdisk
[07:24] <anto9us> geitenneuker, /etc/sysctl.conf add vm.swappiness=0
[07:24] <zetheroo> does anyone know why gtk-recordmydesktop is not keeping the audio synced with the video?
[07:24] <geitenneuker> yeah and if the server is out of mem, it crashes
[07:25] <geitenneuker> no thank
[07:25] <Coded1> geitenneuker, you can basically just copy straight to /dev/shm and it will automatically expand to %50 of your physical ram, if thats what you wanted to do.
[07:25] <anto9us> The number at the end of this line can be between 0 and 100. At 100 the Linux kernel will prefer to find inactive pages and swap them out, while value 0 gives something close to the old behavior where applications that wanted memory could shrink the cache to a tiny fraction of RAM.
[07:28] <geitenneuker> that helps a lot thanks
[07:28] <anto9us> geitenneuker, cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[07:28] <zetheroo> does anyone know why gtk-recordmydesktop is not keeping the audio synced with the video?
[07:29] <anto9us> geirha, sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=(value)
[07:29] <anto9us> oops, geitenneuker
[07:29] <MrBrotato> I am confused... I want to install Ubuntu but when I boot the CD and choose install, it just boots the live version exactly as if I chose to run it without making changes...
[07:29] <tkmr> zetheroo: your comp can't handle it? =o what's your resource usage like?
[07:30] <MrBrotato> 1.5ghz 256mb ram... I wasn't sure if it could handle it or not... runs XP fine, just wanted to try somethign different.
[07:31] <zetheroo> tkmr: Intel C2D 2.5GHZ, 3GB RAM, 100GB 7200 RPM HDD .... I doubt my computer is without capabilities to handle something this simple ... my resource usage is so little ....
[07:31] <geitenneuker> i used tmpfs the temp in shared memory for video editing, now it works a lot faster with just 12gb ram
[07:32] <Bacta> Is Ubuntu a good distro to set a kid up with?
[07:32] <zetheroo> Bacta: sure
[07:32] <Bacta> sans sugar?
[07:33] <geitenneuker> maybe someone create a min and maxsize of this feature
[07:35] <IP-v6> !panel
[07:35] <IP-v6> !gnome-panel
[07:36] <r4ban> i can't play sound on my AC'97 onboard audio, here's the alsa information script report: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=082577b6bbcce5e66fbcb3e525a862d79b84e810
[07:37] <r4ban> it seems my video capture board is the culprit, but i don't know how to fix this
[07:39] <SikEnCide> hm
[07:41] <IP-v6> is it possible to change font of  only second panel which i have added ?
[07:41] <xjolynnx> Is there a way to disable my internal wlan card, and only have an external wlan adapter enabled?
[07:43] <wolter> Hi, will somebody help me get my touchpad scroll horizontally and not vertically when I want it to?
[07:44] <wolter> It has 2 "sliders"
[07:44] <wolter> but the h one scrolls vertically too
[07:44] <wolter> which is... very annoying
[07:44] <IP-v6> xjolynnx, sudo ifconfig deviceid down may help you
[07:44] <IP-v6> xjolynnx, eg. sudo ifconfing wlan0 down
[07:46] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Use a finger at a time.
[07:46] <wolter> kinja-sheep, no, it used to work. But I think I did some tweaking where it was unneeded and now it doesn't work well
[07:46] <wolter> kinja-sheep, but I don't remember the file I modifies
[07:46] <wolter> d
[07:47] <wolter> it was some X11 thing
[07:47] <wolter> where the synaptics where loaded and stuff
[07:47] <mrselfpwn> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <wolter> no
[07:47] <mrselfpwn> hal?
[07:47] <wolter> another one.. far deeper into my system's folders
[07:47] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Hmm. It worked fine for me here. Undo the tweaking, maybe.
[07:48] <wolter> kinja-sheep, yeah, but I don't remember which file I changed
[07:48] <kinja-sheep> (If you can!)
[07:48] <wolter> haha
[07:48] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Try "history"
[07:48] <wolter> Well, its been weeks since I did it
[07:48] <wolter> hm not there
[07:48] <wolter> are there logs of history?
[07:48] <mrselfpwn> wolter: /etc/hal/fdi?
[07:48] <wolter> nah
[07:48] <xjolynnx> IP-v6 t hat does it. how then do i start it back up? for future reference.
[07:48] <xjolynnx> *that
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Command history, yes. I guess you don't have your enabled. I have mine set to 50000, I think. :o
[07:49] <mrselfpwn> wolter: you do know about synclient and man synaptics right?
[07:49] <IP-v6> xjolynnx, eg. sudo ifconfing wlan0 up
[07:49] <wolter> kinja-sheep, yes I have it enabled, but I guess I don't have it set to remember that much lines
[07:49] <wolter> or as much lines as would be needed
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> wolter: There also are .bash_history as well.
[07:50] <xjolynnx> thanks
[07:50] <IP-v6> you're welcome
[07:51] <IP-v6> I've got a question about gnome-panel ?
[07:51] <IP-v6> is it possible to change font of  only second panel which i have added ?
[07:51] <Miracle> hi folk can I get help mounting my iPhone?
[07:52] <kinja-sheep> !iphone | Miracle
[07:52] <wolter> ah found it guys
[07:52] <Miracle> thx ninja
[07:52] <wolter> its under /etc/hal/fdi/policies/<some other stuff?
[07:52] <mrselfpwn> what did i say?
[07:53] <wolter> you were very close mrselfpwn
[07:53] <wolter> but there were a lot more folders to navigate
[07:53] <mrselfpwn> i just gave you the starting point ;)
[07:53] <wolter> thats why it didn't seem familiar enough
[07:54] <IP-v6> wow ! ubottu knows so much : )
[07:54] <wolter> kinja-sheep, i might need your's
[07:54] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Which file?
[07:54] <wolter> kinja-sheep, hold... I thought I found it when I had not
[07:56] <Miracle> if you have a older version of a package must you uninstall it in order to install the new one?
[07:57] <wolter> so kinja-sheep should I infer that you have two-finger scrolling enabled?
[07:57] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Uh-uh.
[07:58] <Miracle> are there guideline to asking questions on this channel?
[07:58] <kinja-sheep> !ask | Miracle
[07:58] <geitenneuker> yeah the first important thing is you have to ask to ask
[07:58] <kinja-sheep> That, my friend, is the answer to your question about the question.
[07:59] <geitenneuker> but you also have ask to ask if you can ask to ask
[07:59] <Miracle> lol
[07:59] <ubuntu0o1> how do you ask that?
[08:00] <wolter> kinja-sheep, oh nice.. very nice. Can you tell me what steps did you follow? The file is need is this one by the way: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[08:00] <majorjunk0> when creating a new partition what do i need to set the file system as so that i can install ubuntu on to it?
[08:01] <kinja-sheep> wolter: http://pastebin.com/f9293cc4
[08:01] <mrselfpwn> majorjunk0: depends on your purpose with the machine
[08:01] <wolter> kinja-sheep, did you only modify your xorg.conf?
[08:01] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I toggled it in the Mouse <something>
[08:01] <wolter> kinja-sheep, and, are you running karmic?
[08:01] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Karmic. Yes.
[08:02] <geitenneuker> im running lunatic lemur
[08:02] <wolter> lol
[08:02] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Nothing significant in xorg.conf
[08:02] <wolter> that one's not out yet
[08:02] <wolter> kinja-sheep, can you pastebin that too?
[08:02] <majorjunk0> mrselfpwn, trying to have window (untill i make the full transfer to ubuntu) and ubuntu on the same HD, not trying to do anything special besides that
[08:02] <ubuntu0o1> is there a way to scroll through all the ctrl+r 'sudo command switches parameters' when command is the same?
[08:02] <kinja-sheep> wolter: http://pastebin.com/f3c27035f
[08:03] <mrselfpwn> majorjunk0: i'd go with ext3 if you want to access your linux partitions in windows with a special driver ext4 if you don't care because of it's better features.
[08:04] <kinja-sheep> ubuntu0o1: Dunno but sometimes I do this --> history | grep "sudo lol"
[08:04] <wolter> thanks kinja-sheep
[08:04] <kinja-sheep> wolter: You got it fixed? Was it in that hal policy thing?
[08:05] <majorjunk0> mrselfpwn, so ext4 is better than ext3?
[08:05] <mrselfpwn> feature wise yes.
[08:05] <wolter> kinja-sheep, well, i have to restart computer to find out
[08:05] <wolter> kinja-sheep, will you still be here?
[08:06] <mrselfpwn> and with data-writeback enabled it's smokin fast
[08:06] <majorjunk0> ok thnx
[08:06] <mrselfpwn> no problem
[08:06] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Sure.
[08:06] <wolter> ok, brb
[08:07] <ubuntu0o1> well at least 'history' is a good suggestion for somebody who forgets all this stuff - thx kinja-sheep :)
[08:07] <kinja-sheep> ubuntu0o1: :)
[08:07] <mrselfpwn> watch out for the oooze
[08:08] <kandinski> I have compiled and installed a chunk of drivers, but now I want to revert to the ones that come with the distro (9.10 32bit). How can I do that?
[08:09] <kandinski> erm, where I say "drivers" they are actually modules
[08:10] <wolter> hey kinja-sheep it worked =D
[08:10] <Diverdude> When i press alt+tab in ubuntu, and hold down alt, i am able to cycle through all open apps by pressing tabs. I am however only able to cycle forward, and not backward by holding alt+shift and repeatedly press tab. How can I enable both forward and backward cycling?
[08:10] <wolter> now I'm going to try to enable 2 finger scrolling
[08:10] <kinja-sheep> wolter: ^)^
[08:11] <wolter> hm, you seem to not have modified your xorg.conf
[08:11] <wolter> kinja-sheep,
[08:11] <Chiku> hello
[08:12] <Diverdude> anyone?
[08:12] <wolter> kinja-sheep, so... can you remember what did you do?
[08:12] <kinja-sheep> wolter: iirc karmic does not use xorg.conf -- what did you modify yours though? Everything worked fine for me here.
[08:12] <wolter> iirc?
[08:12] <wolter> but yes karmic does use xorg.conf
[08:12] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I toggled on h scroll under Mouse settings. That was it.
[08:12] <Chiku> how many pass there are for 2efsck? now it's Pass 1D: Reconciling multiply-claimed blocks
[08:12] <wolter> really
[08:13] <kinja-sheep> wolter: if I recall correctly.
[08:13] <wolter> what kernel are you uding?
[08:13] <r4ban> i'm having trouble with my AC'97 onboard audio. here's the ALSA diagnostic script output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a2a2da081bf6df59d609fdaae337637493b12169
[08:13] <wolter> using*
[08:13] <wolter> kinja-sheep, oh.. but I mean, you do have 2 finger scrolling?
[08:13] <mrselfpwn> wolter: which file are you editing?
[08:13] <Diverdude> ??
[08:13] <wolter> as in you put your 2 fingers and press to scroll?
[08:13] <r4ban> it seems karmic can't recognize my sound card
[08:13] <kinja-sheep> !info linux-generic | wolter (this)
[08:13] <wolter> mrselfpwn, none at the moment
[08:13] <wolter> mhm
[08:13] <mrselfpwn> wolter: what are you asking about? the mouse
[08:13] <kinja-sheep> wolter: 2 Finger Scrolling? no.
[08:14] <mrselfpwn> wolter: what file in /etc/hal/fdi did you change or are attempting to change?
[08:14] <wolter> kinja-sheep, oh... i had understood that you had.. no worries then
[08:14] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I use Microsoft BT Notebook 5500 for scrolling most of the time. I <3 that biased mouse.
[08:14] <wolter> my problem is fixed
[08:14] <wolter> which is all that matters
[08:14] <Diverdude> can anyone help me?
[08:14] <kinja-sheep> wolter: 2-Finger Scrolling worked for you? I don't mind trying it. :)
[08:14] <wolter> mrselfpwn, i had modified a /usr/shar/hal/fdi file
[08:15] <mrselfpwn> ay
[08:15] <wolter>  /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[08:15] <wolter> that one
[08:15] <Diverdude> hallo?
[08:15] <wolter> that is why I thought your suggestion was not right
[08:15] <wolter> Diverdude, whats your problem?
[08:16] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Reboot Required?
[08:16] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Care to paste the modified file?
[08:17] <wolter> kinja-sheep, no, i did not modify it
[08:17] <wolter> i copied yours into mine
[08:17] <wolter> so that it worked again
[08:17] <wolter> and it sure did
[08:17] <wolter> ;)
[08:17] <FloodBot3> wolter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Oh gotcha (but 2-finger scrolling does not?)
[08:17] <wolter> kinja-sheep, no
[08:17] <wolter> no yet ;D
[08:17] <Diverdude> wolter: When i press alt+tab in ubuntu, and hold down alt, i am able to cycle through all open apps by pressing tabs. I am however only able to cycle forward, and not backward by holding alt+shift and repeatedly press tab. How can I enable both forward and backward cycling?
[08:17] <wolter> kinja-sheep, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=639943&postcount=7
[08:17] <wolter> maybe going to do that... change the thing in my xorg
[08:17] <kinja-sheep> wolter: In the future references, do back up your files first before modifying. :)
[08:17] <wolter> now that nvidia-xconfig made room for my input device thing
[08:18] <wolter> kinja-sheep, yeah.. I just commented where i started the modification and then commented where it ended
[08:18] <wolter> i could have just erased all between the comments and the problem would've been fixed, but now that you are here i prefered to compare files and then I just replaced
[08:18] <Diverdude> wolter, can you help me out?
[08:19] <wolter> Diverdude, not if I do not know what your problem is
[08:19] <Diverdude> wolter, i just wrote it again
[08:19] <Diverdude> wolter, When i press alt+tab in ubuntu, and hold down alt, i am able to cycle through all open apps by pressing tabs. I am however only able to cycle forward, and not backward by holding alt+shift and repeatedly press tab. How can I enable both forward and backward cycling?
[08:19] <Diverdude> wolter, there it is again
[08:20] <wolter> Diverdude, thanks, and sorry for not paying attention to your issue earlier
[08:20] <wolter> I was fixing my own back then
[08:20] <wolter> Diverdude, are you using compiz?
[08:20] <geitenneuker> someone playing pong?
[08:20] <AkhlD> hello when i tried to install phpmyadmin it says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:21] <Diverdude> wolter, ohh no worries mate...
[08:21] <Diverdude> Diverdude, yes i am
[08:21] <Diverdude> wolter, Yes I am
[08:22] <AkhlD> brb
[08:22] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Rebooting the laptop. :x
[08:22] <wolter> Diverdude, well, did you try playing around with the settings in config?
[08:22] <wolter> kinja-sheep, you?
[08:22] <wolter> kinja-sheep, to test it i guess
[08:23] <Diverdude> wolter, yes, but I cant seem to find the right place
[08:23] <wolter> should I reboot to try out xorg.conf changed?
[08:23] <wolter> s?
[08:23] <iWolf> Question
[08:23] <kinja-sheep> wolter: If you want to be persistent to get the feature, I wouldn't want to be in your path.
[08:23] <wolter> Diverdude, go to "Window management"
[08:23] <Diverdude> wolter, yes ok
[08:23] <iWolf> I'm running Ubuntu via VM [VirtualBox]
[08:23] <wolter> kinja-sheep, ok, I just thought you were going to test it, as you said "Rebooting... "
[08:24] <Topy44> i just switched from intrepid-based "easypeasy" to karmic UNR, and i am trying to get the look back to the way i like it... and i am not really getting anywhere
[08:24] <Diverdude> wolter, and then Application switcher?
[08:24] <wolter> like it so far iWolf ?
[08:24] <iWolf> And I need to make the screen bigger
[08:24] <iWolf> It's 800x600
[08:24] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I'm on the PC.
[08:24] <iWolf> wolter
[08:24] <iWolf> Advanced Linux User
[08:24] <iWolf> :)
[08:24] <wolter> Diverdude, yes, it can be either that one or the "Satic Application Switcher"
[08:24] <wolter> play around with both
[08:24] <wolter> kinja-sheep, what did you mean then?
[08:24] <Topy44> first of all, all but the active icon in the window-picker-applet are desaturated. i dont like that, how can i get rid of that?
[08:25] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I'm on the computer and I'm trying for 2-finger scrolling on my laptop. (I see what you mean, that feature isn't enabled on my laptop).
[08:25] <lorph> how do I set a timeout for the grub menu that pops up when you need to reboot after a filesystem check?
[08:25] <Topy44> all in all the look of the panel changed a lot and i am trying to get it back to what it looked like before
[08:26] <Topy44> i am not sure if the changes are intrepid -> karmic related, or easypeasy -> plain UNR
[08:26] <iWolf> Ahhh
[08:26] <iWolf> Just make it Fullscreen mode
[08:26] <kinja-sheep> lorph: in /etc/default/grub
[08:26] <wolter> kinja-sheep, should I need to restart to test changes on my Xorg?
[08:26] <wolter> Diverdude, so?
[08:26] <gareth__1> The following packages have been kept back: cryptsetup linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse
[08:26] <gareth__1> why.. and how do i fix it?
[08:26] <lorph> kinja-sheep: which section do I edit?
[08:26] <iWolf> Oh
[08:26] <iWolf> no
[08:26] <lorph> kinja-sheep: my GRUB_TIMEOUT is already "10"
[08:26] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Best to be sure. Okay. I suppose.
[08:27] <lorph> kinja-sheep: but when I tested it, it wouldn't automatically proceed even after 10 seconds
[08:27] <wolter> so, Ill be back in a short time
[08:27] <Diverdude> wolter, ahh yes ok now it works
[08:27] <Diverdude> wolter, thx a lot mate
[08:27] <wolter> good
[08:27] <wolter> no problem
[08:27] <wolter> thats a simple problem :_
[08:27] <wolter> :)
[08:27] <FloodBot3> wolter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <kinja-sheep> lorph: After you edit the file, run "update-grub" afterward to udpate /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:28] <Diverdude> wolter, yeah but thats the problem with guis...if you dont know where to look, you are totally lost
[08:28] <lorph> kinja-sheep: what setting am I supposed to edit though?
[08:28] <lorph> kinja-sheep: by default the grub file already says grub-timeout="10"
[08:28] <gareth__1> sudo apt-get upgrade is giving me The following packages have been kept back: cryptsetup linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse
[08:29] <gareth__1> how do i figure out what's causing the problem?
[08:29] <mneptok> gareth__1: there is no problem
[08:29] <Diverdude> wolter, hmm but it does not seem possible to set the icon size in there
[08:29] <kinja-sheep> lorph: All I know is that you set the configuration file to your liking, update the grub. That's it. Change another settings (then update again). If you want, you can do "grub-mkconfig" too. Also, there are #grub channel. ;o
[08:29] <gareth__1> mneptok: yes there is.. those packages arent updating
[08:29] <mneptok> gareth__1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:30] <mneptok> gareth__1: you need to dist-upgrade to update those packages
[08:30] <gareth__1> im ON 9.10!
[08:30] <mneptok> dist-upgrade is NOT a version upgrade
[08:31] <wolter> oh well, it did not work
[08:31] <gareth__1> oh well.. it's a vm.. if it goes fubar i'll just reinstall
[08:31] <mneptok> gareth__1: i dist-upgrade 9.10 every day
[08:31] <mneptok> gareth__1: and have been using dist-upgrade for years
[08:32] <gareth__1> mneptok: stop flooding x.x
[08:32]  * IP-v6 is back (gone 00:35:01)
[08:32] <mneptok> gareth__1: excuse me?
[08:32] <kinja-sheep> !away > IP-v6
[08:33] <isolat3dsh33p> :)
[08:33] <gareth__1> !enter > mneptok
[08:33] <kinja-sheep> gareth__1: mneptok was not flooding.  Though everytime I get the upgrade screen for updating packages, these packages are displayed (same version). So have package X-1.0 installed, and then rebuilding+installing from source, apt will continue to ask to update it to X-1.0 from the repositories
[08:34] <mneptok> gareth__1: if you'd like to /join #ubuntu-ops and tell my fellow channel operators that i'm flooding, feel free. :P
[08:35] <gareth__1> kinja-sheep: 4-5 messages too me in a minute and a half.. 2 of which are continuated.. last i checked counted as flooding in #ubuntu.. if policies have changed in recent weeks, i appologise
[08:35] <majorjunk0> i created a partition on my hard drive and the ubuntu installer cant seem to find it
[08:35] <isolat3dsh33p> !test
[08:36]  * IP-v6 is away: "trying slient away"
[08:36] <ghostknife> Why does it do this, and how can I get around it, without preventing the package from ever upgrading again?
[08:36] <mneptok> IP-v6: fail.
[08:36] <ardchoille> !away > IP-v6
[08:36] <jongbergs> hi, i really have forgotten how to remove old kernel images and related file using aptitude command, i seemed cannot remember exactly the arguments something like this sudo aptitude purge '~2.6.31-15-generic' ??
[08:37] <mneptok> ghostknife: research "pinning" packages in apt/dpkg
[08:37] <kinja-sheep> ghostknife: See !pinning too
[08:37] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I think I found something.  Will try.
[08:39] <ghostknife> !pinning
[08:39] <wolter> kinja-sheep, keep me notified
[08:40] <majorjunk0> i created a partition on my hard drive and the ubuntu installer cant seem to find it when it gets to step 4 "prepare partitions"
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> odd.. I get put in #ubuntu-unregistered even tho i got auto-identify to nickserv setup
[08:42] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: I've been in #ubuntu-unregged for years even tho I ID before joinging
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  yea. its odd.. onluy recently started happening.  Wonder if its lagged services or what
[08:44] <Myrtti> well we do have +R on the channel
[08:45] <ghostknife> mneptok: I went through the guide, though they're unclear about the following. I have grub-pc_1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1_i386 installed. Now I get the source, modify, rebuild and installed my own grub-pc_1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1_i386.deb. From now on, apt tries to update it to their own grub-pc_1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1_i386. If I pin my "release", and a newer version of grub is released, will it again prefer the
[08:45] <ghostknife>  newer release? which is my intention
[08:45] <walkie> hello, i use ubuntu 9.04 on eee701, last day i did connect usb keyboard to it, today i found what eee's own keyboard is misconfigured, (and i have external keyboard away) how to configure eee's keyboard back?
[08:48] <IP-v6> kinja-sheep, when i tryed /away <reason> it prints reason on channel(s), i am using xchat
[08:48] <mneptok> ghostknife: no, your self-built package will be pinned.
[08:48] <IP-v6> how can set slient away ?
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> IP-v6: Disable "Channel announces" in Preferences.
[08:48] <verb3k> is there a way to increase bass in ubuntu?
[08:48] <Miracle> !iphone
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> IP-v6: "Announce all away messages" under General (in Preference).
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> verb3k:  ive seen some mixer controlls  you can install. but they are not instaled by default, or in teh repos.
[08:49] <ghostknife> mneptok: yes, but what does that mean? the same as having it locked, where it will never upgrade to a newer version again?
[08:49] <IP-v6> thanks, i'm trying now : )
[08:49] <IP-v6> it works : )
[08:49] <kinja-sheep> :o3
[08:50] <ghostknife> mneptok: when running: apt-cache policy grub-pc, I noticed there are multiple releases with the number "500", where the older versions are listed lower. I'm hoping this means a newer version with the same pin priority will take higher preference?
[08:50] <ghostknife> mneptok: or rather, newer version with lower pin priority
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> verb3k:  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer-for.html
[08:51] <context-> anyone know why ssh gets started, then restarted when i boot this x64 9.10 box
[08:51] <ghostknife> mneptok: it should if I understand these apt-cache policy outputs. many of them have older versions with higher pin priorities, listed lower in the list than a newer version/higher priority
[08:51] <ghostknife> *newer version/lower priority
[08:51] <ghostknife> One more thing, if I rebuild a package, how do I pin it? iow. what value do I give for it's "release" ?
[08:52] <infid> anyone know how to get truecrypt working with ext4? i keep getting /dev/mappter/truecrypt1 errors but truecrypt1 doesn't even exist
[08:52] <verb3k> Dr_Willis, thanks, but which parameter is bass? seems technical to me
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> verb3k:  no idea. try the thing and see.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> BASS = low frequencies i guess.
[08:55] <ghostknife> infid: which errors?
[08:55] <ghostknife> infid: are you using a file ON the ext4 volume?
[08:56] <infid> ghostknife: yes
[08:56] <ghostknife> infid: in other words, your volume is something like /home/myhome/volume.tc, which /home/myhome is on an ext4 fs?
[08:56] <infid> ghostknife: 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/truecrypt1, missing codepage or helperp rogramer..'
[08:56] <ghostknife> infid: you using the truecrypt gui?
[08:56] <infid> ghostknife: yeah, it's /media/usb/test.tc which is an ext4 system
[08:57] <infid> yeah the gui
[08:57] <infid> and i'm trying to mount to /media/tc
[08:57] <ghostknife> infid: oh, so the volume itself is formatted with ext4?
[08:57] <ghostknife> infid: let me give it a go quickly.
[08:57] <infid> the volume was created in windows version of truecrypt, so ntfs
[08:58] <infid> but i'm using the mount options: "rw,sync,utf8/uid=1000,umask=0000"
[08:59] <ghostknife> infid: ok, so let me get this straight. it's a tc volume, created in windows, formatted with NTFS, and stored on an ext4 partition?
[08:59] <infid> yes
[08:59] <ghostknife> infid: shouldn't be a problem
[08:59] <infid> i have since ditched windows for ubuntu, so i need to use linux/truecrypt from now on :)
[08:59] <ghostknife> infid: the source filesystem shouldn't make a difference, because it's "abstracted" away from the userspace utilities
[09:00] <infid> yeah, i was able to mount a truecrypt'd ntfs usb drive onto linux/ext3 once
[09:01] <infid> but i'm starting to think truecrypt doesnt like ext4
[09:01] <ghostknife> infid: try and put the file onto usb-drive and see if it mounts then
[09:01] <infid> i can't, it's a 50gb file
[09:01] <ghostknife> infid: hmm
[09:01] <infid> well
[09:01] <infid> it is on a usb harddrive right now actually
[09:01] <ghostknife> then create a 60gb loopback, format with ext3, put it on there, and then try and mount it
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> infid:  i bet the dog ate it.
[09:01] <infid> just not a flash drive, same difference though. the drive is external usb drive is ntfs formatted
[09:02] <ghostknife> infid: so where does the ext4 come in?
[09:02] <ZeekDaGeek> Is there a tool to fix bad hard drive sectors in Ubuntu?
[09:02] <infid> the file was created in vista/truecrypt. then mv'd to an external 500gb usb harddrive, which linux sees as /media/usb. ext4 comes into play as /media/tc
[09:03] <infid> since my / is all ext4
[09:03] <ghostknife> infid: ok, but the TC volume is physically stored on an NTFS drive?
[09:03] <infid> correct
[09:03] <ghostknife> infid: get your story straight then
[09:03] <ghostknife> infid: either way, the problem isn't the filesystem it's stored on
[09:04] <ghostknife> infid: try and run truecrypt from a terminal
[09:05] <infid> i dont know what the .tc file is formatted as. does tc even format as nfts, ext, etc? i can't remember. i just know for sure the .tc file is stored on an nfts drive
[09:05] <ghostknife> infid: TC can format as fat, and ext2/3
[09:05] <ghostknife> infid: In Linux at least. On windows it might be able to format as NTFS
[09:05] <infid> not sure how to run truecrypt from a terminal. never did it
[09:05] <aprilus> wc
[09:06] <infid> ghostknife: well i know it can when it's formatting a partition but i didnt do that. i just created a file container
[09:06] <ghostknife> infid: the option to format is part of creating the container.
[09:06] <ghostknife> infid: another option is "cross platform" support. maybe you didn't enable that
[09:06] <infid> ok, then i probably did ntfs
[09:07] <infid> do i have to install somethin special to use truecrypt from the cli? i just have the gui .deb package installed
[09:07] <ghostknife> infid: running it from the cli with --help will show the options
[09:07] <ghostknife> infid: it also gives better output
[09:09] <ghostknife> infid: truecrypt --mount <volume> <mount point>
[09:10] <infid> truecrypt --mount /media/usb/foo.tc /media/tc?
[09:11] <ghostknife> infid: OR truecrypt -t -v --mount <volume> <mount point>
[09:11] <infid> worked :D thanks
[09:11] <ghostknife> infid: ok, well. you must have done something wrong then. if you dismount it, it should work through the GUI as well
[09:12] <ghostknife> infid: I'm glad it worked. It would suck loosing a TC volume
[09:12] <infid> googling around is showing that the gui is doing weird stuff behind the scenes
[09:12] <Leoneof`> hi
[09:12] <infid> possibly
[09:12] <Leoneof`> isn't possible to install any software to my special path?
[09:13] <ZeekDaGeek> Ubuntu is saying one of my hard drives has bad sectors, is there an Ubuntu tool to fix / mask them?
[09:13] <schultza> I have an HP Pavilion dv7-2185dx with audio problems when pluggin in my headset. Audio stays coming out of speakers, even though the headset is plugged in correctly. Even in Windows, I had to install drivers to recognize that I have headset connections. I'm currently using Ubuntu 9.10.
[09:13] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: the ubuntu live cd has a check disk program that should try to fix them
[09:13] <Leoneof`> hi linus
[09:14] <schultza> My research lead me to install Realtek HD Manager. That kept coming up for windows. Any help/ideas?
[09:14] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: does it need to be loaded off the live CD or can I use it from an actual installed version.
[09:15] <nixjr> how do i stop desktop icons appearing for all my sata drives, but still make them appear for usb/cd?
[09:15] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: from the live cd, since you wont want anything else loaded onto the disk
[09:15] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: even if you do a chkdisk in windows, it only schedules you to run chkdisk when you reboot, for that very reason
[09:15] <schultza> I have an HP Pavilion dv7-2185dx with audio problems when pluggin in my headset. Audio stays coming out of speakers, even though the headset is plugged in correctly. Even in Windows, I had to install drivers to recognize that I have headset connections. I'm currently using Ubuntu 9.10.
[09:15] <schultza> My research lead me to install Realtek HD Manager. That kept coming up for windows. Any help/ideas?
[09:15] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: Ubuntu's not on the same drive that's failin.
[09:15] <ZeekDaGeek> failing*
[09:16] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: ah, then idk, maybe you can using fsck
[09:16] <schultza> Sorry for any double posts, but I have a slow/sat connection.
[09:16] <geitenneuker> huh
[09:16] <geitenneuker> please fix the 2.6.33 in the ubuntu mainline vanilla kernel
[09:16] <geitenneuker> http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/ae785252f4bf2d3a
[09:16] <geitenneuker> the firmware is not in the kernel
[09:18] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: man badblocks
[09:18] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[09:18] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: I know its probably going to die soon.
[09:19] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: you could always pay geeksquad to run spinrite or somethin professional if it's really important, otherwise trye badblocks or somethign. idk, ive honestly never had to do it myself
[09:19] <infid> ie dont take my advice without a second opinion ;p
[09:20] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: I back up all my data and the drive still mounts so I can get all the data off. The problem is if I start up Windows XP with the bad sectors it takes 20 minutes to boot up at least and 5-10 minutes to open any program
[09:20] <schultza> What mixer do I need to install to get my headset working?
[09:21] <infid> alsa?
[09:22] <schultza> Just alsa or a specific package?
[09:22] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[09:22] <zetheroo> we seriously need an application for converting video from one format to another that actually works ... :(
[09:22] <infid> idk, i came here to get help myself, and am only trying to ansser because theres 5 billion people in here but no one is responding right now and i feel bad for you :p
[09:23] <zetheroo> not to mention a screencast app that also actually works ...
[09:23] <nixjr> how do i stop desktop icons appearing for all my sata drives, but still make them appear for usb/cd?
[09:23] <infid> you're probably better off with google right now until people wake up
[09:23] <zetheroo> anyone know how to convert an AVI to an FLV?
[09:23] <schultza> I'm glad I work the night shift then. I'll wait until I'm at work at 1800. Current it'
[09:24] <schultza> I'm glad I work the night shift then. I'll wait until I'm at work at 1800. Current it's 1354.
[09:24] <schultza> zetheroo: Have you tried Handbrake?
[09:24] <infid> yeah it's 1:30am here, i'm just taking notes on the solution someone just gave me so i wont forget. i've been doing that for years and have never had to ask the same question twice, which is nice
[09:24] <schultza> I wouldn't know of any other program, but apparently Handbrake is popular where I am.
[09:24] <zetheroo> schultza: i have had it before but was not impressed as things were not working without a lot of tweaking ...
[09:25] <schultza> Oh wait. Something about FLV being a .mp4 format, or something like that.
[09:25] <zetheroo> schultza: Avidemux is supposed to do it as well but in Karmic its messed up for converting to FLV
[09:25] <infid> ive only converted video files in windows. is time i learn how to do it in linux
[09:25] <zetheroo> infid: :) don't rush - ha
[09:26] <kwtm> If I mainly want to hang out socially and have no question to ask, what's the appropriate channel?  Is it #ubuntu-I-just-want-to-chat or what?
[09:26] <infid> are there any good video editing apps yet for linux?
[09:26] <infid> kwtm i think it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <infid> yeah
[09:27] <kwtm> infid: How long ago did you check?   I like avidemux, but apparently that's not good enough nowadays
[09:27] <zetheroo> infid: Avidemux is very good :) when it works ...
[09:27] <infid> kwtm, 1999 or so heh
[09:27] <infid> ie when there was nothing
[09:27] <infid> cool i'll try that
[09:28] <infid> i've always had both linux and windows and used windows for most media, but now i'm full linux so i'm tryin to find the alternate apps for everything
[09:28] <kwtm> infid: I've used avidemux to cut and splice video.  But no fancy effects like transition/crossfades, etc.
[09:28] <zetheroo> infid: also cinelerra ..
[09:28] <infid> ie i've only used virtualdub
[09:28] <schultza> Hmm.. Alsa is already installed.
[09:28] <kwtm> infid: Also good for splicing audio
[09:29] <infid> is there audacity for linux? i've used that in windows and iirc it was open source
[09:30] <nixjr> how do i stop desktop icons appearing for all my sata drives, but still make them appear for usb/cd?
[09:31] <zetheroo> infid: yes .. very good too
[09:31] <etfb> Can anyone tell me where Evolution stores its configuration?  I copied the .evolution directory from my backup to my new computer, but it's not being noticed.  Evolution still thinks the inbox and everything else is empty.
[09:32] <infid> i dont use evolution but typing 'locate evolution' only shows files in ~/.evolution for me
[09:32] <geitenneuker> debian ubuntu is fast, i like that
[09:32] <Topy44> hm, for some reason clicking the "home" icon on my UNR netbook takes rather long to display the launcher
[09:33] <Topy44> on intrepid, it was instant
[09:33] <geitenneuker> debora and ian married mr. ubuntu
[09:33] <Topy44> also, clicking any other program is instant
[09:33] <infid> topy44 yeah thats why idsable the UNR interface on my netbook
[09:33] <Andorin> Hey, guys, can somebody help me troubleshoot wireless? I'm pretty sure my software (Karmic) is fine... it's my modem/router, and I'm wondering if anyone here is knowledgeable enough about home networking in general to help me out.
[09:33] <Topy44> but i like the unr launcher a lot
[09:33] <etfb> geitenneuker, Mr Ubuntu is Deb and Ian's golden-haired child.  Or maybe dark-haired, given the African connection...
[09:33] <jerkface> anyone using the alpha?
[09:34] <infid> i prefer gnome-do, way faster to launch stuff
[09:34] <Topy44> but i dont see why it takes longer to switch to it then to switch to any other app
[09:34] <infid> topy44 is your /home on a different partition /filesystem?
[09:34] <Topy44> no
[09:34] <_Darkstar_> Hi i'm using Xubuntu on my laptop, looking to decrease resource usage, already used Boot Up Manager, simple theme and no wallpaper, i'm wondering if anyone knows a link to lightweight apps as i'm using a close to ancient laptop
[09:35] <dahlia> is there a way I can set up synergy so I can control my desktop from another computer before I log in?
[09:35] <jerkface> guess not
[09:35] <infid> maybe there's files in your home that take a while to scan or something
[09:35] <Jasonrj> I've got an issue with my wireless. I'm a newbie, so I don't really know what to do. According to the lspci command, the OS can see my wireless adapter, but I see that I have no network connection. I'm using Xubuntu on an Acer TravelMate 2300, it's pretty old.
[09:35] <infid> dahlia: synergy works for me before i login by default, to enter my password at the gnome login screen
[09:35] <andrew_46> _Darkstar_: For media playback if you are happy with the commandline there is mplayer-nogui
[09:35] <dahlia> infid, how did you set it up?
[09:36] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: thanks dude
[09:36] <infid> dahlia, but you have to have synergc running already on the client machine
[09:36] <dahlia> mine wont work until I start quicksynergy and then execute it
[09:36] <infid> dahlia: google 'ubuntu synergy howto' there's details in it
[09:36] <dahlia> ty
[09:37] <Topy44> what i dont get is: using the unr launcher is perfectly quick, everything is really responsive, its just switching to it from another app that takes forever
[09:37] <Topy44> i am running on an ancient first generation eee pc btw
[09:38] <infid> dahlia: i dont use quicksynergy. quicksynergy is fine for intially creating a synergy.conf but once it's working move it to ~/.synergy.conf then just use the command line 'synergys' and 'synergyc'
[09:38] <andrew_46> _Darkstar_: and I see you are using x-chat, you might find irssi is lighter?
[09:38] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: its the gnome light version... naaa irssi isnt my style i needsome eyecandy :P
[09:38] <infid> once you go irssi you never go back :)
[09:38] <dahlia> I want the ubuntu box to run synergyc at boot up. I have a windows laptop which is the server
[09:39] <blackest_knight> For some reason I can only tab (alt or super tab) between windows on the same workspace how do I tab between windows in all work spaces (gnome)
[09:39] <dahlia> +1 irssi :)
[09:39] <andrew_46> _Darkstar_: irssi can be prettied up .... a little :)
[09:39] <infid> dahlia:  yeah the howto explains different ways of launching synergyc during system startup
[09:39] <jerkface> i updated the alpha today, and now i have no sound, and I can't reboot or mount anything from gnome. Guess i will install 9.10
[09:40] <Topy44> switching to the unr launcher is not causing much of a cpu surge, so i dont think thats the problem either...
[09:40] <blackest_knight> jerkface: lucid alpha?
[09:40] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: i like the xchat plugins as i run my own irc server and simplifies my job :P
[09:40] <jerkface> right
[09:40] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: all im doing is trying to cut my laptop resources down lol
[09:41] <infid> blackest_knight: Super+E?
[09:41] <infid> in compiz anyway
[09:41] <infid> my favorite command :)
[09:41] <iceroot> jerkface: because of that noone is using an alpha as a real system of course
[09:42] <blackest_knight> infid: I like super tab
[09:42] <nomnex> What is the number after the permission - here 5 ? > drwxr-xr-x 5 mt mt 4.0K 2010-01-16 18:40 Test
[09:42] <infid> with 3d cube/rotate cube you can ctrl+alt+drag across workspaces
[09:42] <iceroot> nomnex: the count of hardlinks
[09:43] <blackest_knight> infid can do that with the window panel selector
[09:43] <iceroot> nomnex: ah sorry its a dir
[09:43] <iceroot> nomnex: its the number of files inside imo
[09:43] <Seveas> iceroot, nope
[09:43] <nomnex> iceroot, sub folder, files or both?
[09:43] <infid> helping peoples feels good. i should start coming here more often to answer instead of just ask, although i dont know that much. i should also try seeding on transmission to. this could be a whole new life of giving
[09:44] <infid> gnight and goodluck
[09:44] <Seveas> infid, that's the spirit!
[09:44] <andrew_46> infid: night :)
[09:44] <blackest_knight> infid: your getting it
[09:45] <jerkface> ugh, university of oregon is only giving me 1400 kB/s download. this is taking forever.
[09:46] <ssn> hi guys. I am part of a ubuntu install party. my question: how well does the ubuntu install handle resizing / dualbooting with windows vista and windows 7? i remember problems with past installations, but i dont know about karmic
[09:46] <etfb> Ah! Found the solution to my problem with Evolution not recognising my backed-up files.  Turns out I backed them up as root.  chown -R etfb .evolution was all it took.
[09:47] <jerkface> That 6 minutes was brutal. They should make a minimal install cd like gentoo.
[09:48] <kwtm> etfb: sounds like it's not a good habit to backup as root ... at least not when someone else owns the files.
[09:48] <geitenneuker> jerkface you should take time
[09:49] <jerkface> :-?
[09:49] <geitenneuker> yeah what would you do with a packet radio controller? with only 1200 baud?
[09:49] <devunt> Witty Woodpecker is good for code name
[09:49] <timClicks> what is the package name for python's easy-install
[09:50] <devunt> isn't it?
[09:50] <geitenneuker> just type sudo apt-get install python*
[09:50] <geitenneuker> it installs everything
[09:50] <timClicks> ;)
[09:50] <kwtm> _Darkstar_: for a REALLY low resource environment, take out X windows and just use text.  Hmm, not sure exactly *how* light-resource you want to go
[09:50] <timClicks> there are over 1000 python packages
[09:50] <jerkface> damn, i can't eject either. worked great yesterday :D
[09:51] <geitenneuker> yeah its funny to see all those things
[09:51] <phaese> is this a correct place to ask for help troubleshooting problems?
[09:51] <Seveas> phaese, it is
[09:51] <ssn> hi guys. I am part of a ubuntu install party. my question: how well does the ubuntu install handle resizing / dualbooting with windows vista and windows 7? i remember problems with past installations, but i dont know about karmic
[09:52] <toman> someone who can help me install BENQ scanner 5000 under ubuntu 9.10 ?
[09:52] <jerkface> geez, I downloaded the 32 bit version. There's 6 minutes I'll never get back.
[09:52] <toman> XSane does not work
[09:55] <nomnex> Any advance Bash user around here? ls -l output > drwxr-xr-x 34 mt mt 4.0K 2010-01-16 17:23 Software. I need to know exactly what's the number 34 after the permissions. These numbers do not reflect my folders or documents, I could not find any clear explanation on the web. Thanks
[09:55] <Andorin> Hey, guys, can somebody help me troubleshoot wireless? I'm pretty sure my software (Karmic) is fine... it's my modem/router, and I'm wondering if anyone here is knowledgeable enough about home networking in general to help me out.
[09:56] <phaese> okay, thanks. i'm running 9.10 on a vaio sz7xx and i'm running into some problems with gnome-power-management. for some reason, it is not recognizing when ac power is connected or disconnected. this problem also occurs in devkit-power, but the information in /proc/acpi/ is properly updated and correct. this leads me to believe that devkit-power is not functioning correctly. if anyone has any suggestions, i would appreciate it.
[09:56] <vyazovoi> nomnex: info ls
[09:57] <kinja-sheep> System --> Preferences --> Encryption/Password.  What is the command for that?
[09:57] <devunt> oh, one of 10.10 DevelopCodeName is Microsoft Murderer
[09:58] <siggy> Andorin: just ask your question, it worked fine for me in karmic. did you enable wireless in your router?
[09:58] <nomnex> vyazovoi, nothing about the numbers after the permissions there, man ls, ls --help, etc. I don't find.
[09:58] <vyazovoi> nomnex: afair "number of hard links"
[09:58] <vyazovoi> info ls
[09:58]  * devunt is away: sudo /etc/init.d/devunt away
[09:58] <vyazovoi> info and man are two different things
[09:58]  * devunt is back (gone 00:00:02)
[09:58] <llutz> nomnex: [10:58:07] <vyazovoi> nomnex: afair "number of hard links"      <- it is
[09:58] <nomnex> vyazovoi, yes, but the folders do not contain any hard links command "ln"
[09:59] <Andorin> siggy: Yeah. The problem is this: LAN connections from the router will work fine, but with wireless, I can connect to the router but not the Internet.  And the wireless was working fine earlier today when I set it up, but then I wake up and can't connect.
[10:00] <llutz> nomnex: "Directories - The amount of links or directories within the directory. The default amount of directories is going to always be 2 because of the . and .. directories"
[10:02] <nomnex> llutz, thanks. do you know why the numbers does not update when I remove a dir or two in the GUI and pass the ls-lh command again? They add fine when I create a new folder, but the numbers do not change during the same session when I delete (trash) a folder. Is it because it is in the trash and not shift deleted?
[10:03] <Topy44> how can i change the cpu speed of my eee pc 4g/701 with ubuntu karmic? under intrepid i used eee-control, but i heard the functionality was integrated into karmic?
[10:03] <llutz> nomnex: no idea, sorry
[10:03] <nomnex> llutz, thanks anyway.
[10:04] <petsounds> Topy44, you can use eeepc-acpi-utilities
[10:06] <Topy44> hm, i just noticed:
[10:06] <ssn> hi guys. I am part of a ubuntu install party. my question: how well does the ubuntu install handle resizing / dualbooting with windows vista and windows 7? i remember problems with past installations, but i dont know about karmic
[10:07] <Topy44> clicking the "home" icon to get back the unr launcher takes forever as said - but: minimizing the current program switches instantly!
[10:07] <Topy44> so something really is weird
[10:07] <kgs> what is an install party?
[10:08] <phaese> ssn, are you aiming to use grub or the windows bootloader
[10:08] <Seveas> kgs, bunch of people coming together and helping each other install Ubuntu
[10:08] <phaese> just out of curiousity
[10:08] <llutz> kgs: something like IRC, but real-life
[10:08] <kgs> Ah...
[10:08] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: I don't have that menu entry here
[10:09] <kgs> lol
[10:09] <flexible> grub will not load passed the GRUB Loading display... i'm stuck, unable to load my OS, i've tried using the live cd to reinstall grub but it hasn't helped... any suggestions?
[10:09] <kinja-sheep> friends don't let friends install windows
[10:09] <kgs> I've installed Ubuntu for several friends... never was it anything like a party.
[10:09] <jerkface> dude, i love windows 7
[10:09] <phaese> yea
[10:09] <phaese> i've been pleased with 7
[10:09] <guntbert> !ot
[10:09] <nixjr> ive been using ubuntu for 2 days now, i had no reason to switch from windows, i just felt like a change
[10:09] <flexible> me too actually.
[10:10] <flexible> w7 pulled through
[10:10] <toman> someone have any idea how to install benq 5000 image scanner on my ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:10] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Meh. I'm trying to set up gnome-pam-keyring so I don't get that pesky nm-applet asking for password. (it is under accessories, maybe?)
[10:10] <flexible> so can anyone help me with my GRUB problem?
[10:10] <Topy44> hm, the unr launcher really is behaving strangely. half the time when i click a program it doesnt start it
[10:10] <toman> someone have any idea how to install benq 5000 image scanner on my ubuntu 9.10 ? XSane does not work. All I found in google was a broken link from a guy who said he fixed it ...
[10:10] <diverse_izzue> flexible, what exactly have you tried to reinstall grub?
[10:11] <kinja-sheep> toman: Paste out the broken line.
[10:11] <devunt> It's  ₥i€Ro$o₣₮
[10:11] <edakiri> flexible: do you have a USB drive?
[10:11] <loquitus> Is it safe to upgrade to 9.10? I know that there were serious issues with upgrading to it initially...
[10:11] <flexible> diverse_izzue: grub-install or whatever the command is... and followed the appropriate steps with the live cd
[10:11] <devunt> or ₥i€Ro$o₣₮ ₩i₦₫o₩$
[10:11] <diverse_izzue> loquitus, i think it is safe
[10:11] <toman> it's not recodnising it at all kinja-sheep
[10:11] <flexible> edakiri: yeh i do
[10:11] <bazhang> devunt, stop that
[10:12] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: you are looking for applications/accesories/passwords and encryption
[10:12] <devunt> ok.
[10:12] <devunt> sorry
[10:12] <kinja-sheep> Is it safe to drive? I know that there were serious issues with driving on roads initially.
[10:12] <llutz> devunt: /j #fanboys and go on
[10:12] <diverse_izzue> flexible, you should run update-grub and then grub-install <your-drive> from a chroot environment
[10:12] <loquitus> diverse_izzue: but you know then about all the issues and are saying those problems are not prevelent anymore?
[10:12] <diverse_izzue> you'd have to specify the issues, i haven't personally run into any
[10:13] <flexible> but how is that method any different to what i did aside from the update... i'm using the latest ubuntu release, so grub can't be that dated
[10:13] <loquitus> diverse_izzue: well I upgraded one machine and mid upgrade it gave an error and the machine was incapable of booting in anymore.
[10:13] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: and it it called seahorse
[10:13] <guntbert> *it is
[10:13] <schultza> Now i have sound working on the headset, but it will not seperate from the speakers. Argh!
[10:13] <loquitus> Another machine appeared to have completed, but it too would not reboot
[10:14] <phaese> ioquitus: personally, i just installed 9.10 on what was an 8.4 machine, everything works the same for me except one major problem has been fixed (standby issues) and one minor problem has been introduced (power management issues)
[10:14] <diverse_izzue> drat then you seem indeed to have bad luck with it. i don't know how many fixes have gone into it since reboot
[10:15] <phaese> ioquitus: (if you're looking for anecdotal answers :P)
[10:15] <edakiri> flexible: if you install while USB drive is attached, it causes a problem.  When booting, it will search and eventually time out and continue normally.  To solve, install without USB drive attached.
[10:15] <diverse_izzue> flexible, are you in the live environment still?
[10:15] <toman> kinja-sheep,  error is "Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:006:002':Invalid argument."
[10:16] <nixjr> i have an issue with my sound, when compared to windows, all my music is missing almost all of the middle and bass tones
[10:16] <diverse_izzue> nixjr, that happens with several playback applications, not just one?
[10:16] <flexible> diverse_izzue: no i am not... i can boot it up again though...
[10:17] <flexible> edakiri: i did not a usb flash drive attached on boot though
[10:17] <edakiri> nixjr: maybe on MS you have an equalizer active.  It does not sound like a likely software problem.
[10:17] <phaese> if anyone is familiar enough with devkit-power to help me troubleshoot an issue i'm having, i would appreciate it
[10:17] <nixjr> diverse_izzue, it happens with the two ive tried
[10:17] <edakiri> flexible: did you have it attached while installing?
[10:17] <flexible> edakiri: no
[10:17] <pentanol>  hi 2every1! anybody use sasc-ng or something else so as to watching encoded dvb-s?
[10:17] <AkhlD> hello
[10:17] <flexible> edakiri: grub used to work, then all of a sudden it wouldn't boot
[10:17] <nixjr> edakiri, ive tried with eq on and off, when the eq was on, i imported the same eq settings i had in winamp
[10:17] <diverse_izzue> flexible, why don't you do that, then maybe people can help
[10:18] <AkhlD> i cant remove phpmyadmin this s wht happens http://pastebin.com/d299611eb
[10:18] <diverse_izzue> nixjr, do you know what kind of sound chip you have? is it something exotic?
[10:18] <edakiri> since Ubuntu does not usually use loadkeys to set the keymap, what does it use?
[10:18] <flexible> diverse_izzue: well i'm tempted to just do a clean install of ubuntu, as all my files and the like are on a seperate partition '/home' anyway
[10:19] <diverse_izzue> flexible, always a good idea too :-)
[10:19] <kinja-sheep> flexible: And /etc.
[10:19] <AkhlD> anyone ?
[10:19] <nixjr> diverse_izzue, i dont think so, ive got an asus p45 chipset mobo and am using onboard sound
[10:19] <bashca> hi there  please  help me ( Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal )
[10:19] <diverse_izzue> nixjr, sounds very exotic your problem, cannot help
[10:20] <flexible> kinja-sheep: no /etc is not in a seperate partition... should i do that on the new install?
[10:20] <zetheroo> is there a way to make an image of my entire Hard Drive so that I can just restore my new HDD with a replica of my current setup?
[10:21] <nixjr> diverse_izzue, is there a way to bring up exactly what kind of sound chip i have from within ubuntu?
[10:21] <kinja-sheep> flexible: It is only 10-12MB at most. It is where worldwide settings and sources.list, personal ppa, and whatnot. Not a big deal. :)
[10:21] <guntbert> zetheroo: look at clonezilla
[10:21] <diverse_izzue> flexible, i would in any case keep a backup of /etc. i would not necessarily keep it when reinstalling, you also risk keeping old cruft
[10:21] <zetheroo> guntbert: ah yes .. thanks
[10:21] <diverse_izzue> bashca, what package is that? which application gives you that error message?
[10:22] <Pathero-ng> hello people
[10:22] <AkhlD> help meeeeeee http://pastebin.com/d299611eb
[10:22] <Pathero-ng> I want to know why loading firefox takes longer
[10:22] <Pathero-ng> when running as user then root
[10:23] <nixjr> Pathero-ng, i dont use ff but could plugins be user specific? i think each plugin adds to the load time
[10:23] <diverse_izzue> Pathero-ng, I don't know, but you should most certainly not run it as root
[10:23] <Pathero-ng> it use to run fast as user too
[10:23] <guntbert> nixjr: why do you run FF as root?
[10:23] <Pathero-ng> until I changed the firefox executabvle to fire
[10:23] <diverse_izzue> one thing you could try is clean it's database, or create a new profile for your user
[10:23] <kinja-sheep> Pathero-ng: "firefox -safe-mode" and see if that's about same as root.
[10:24] <nixjr> guntbert, i dont use ff at all, i think you mean Pathero-ng
[10:24] <Pathero-ng> I
[10:24] <guntbert> nixjr: yes, sorry - clumsy finger syndrome :-)
[10:24] <Pathero-ng> heard running a graphical program with sudo messes it up
[10:25] <ardchoille> !gksudo | Pathero-ng
[10:25] <Topy44> hm, i am getting this error on apt-get update, but i cannot figure out where it gets that repository address from: "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found"
[10:25] <nixjr> Pathero-ng, use gksudo
[10:25] <_Darkstar_> Pathero-ng: download Firefox 3.0 the beta, really fast browser
[10:25] <_Darkstar_> much lighter too
[10:25] <Pathero-ng> 3.0? I got 3.5
[10:26] <diverse_izzue> Topy44, have a look through your /etc/apt/sources.d/
[10:26] <guntbert> _Darkstar_: are you really suggesting an ancient beta?
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> I run firefox as root
[10:26] <AkhlD> _Darkstar_, please help me to uninstall phpmyadmin it show this error http://pastebin.com/d299611eb
[10:26] <_Darkstar_> oops sorry... havent updated in a while lol.... using windows since im at my parents
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> changing the icon properties I don't use console
[10:26] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: That's extremely dangerous
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> extremly?
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> like how
[10:27] <bashca> sorry  d/c  back
[10:27] <bashca> diverse_izzue: flashplugin-nonfree
[10:27] <Pathero-ng> is it the same as using gksudo running as root off the icon
[10:27] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: trust me, you don't want to run any internet apps as root user.
[10:27] <diverse_izzue> bashca, have you tried doing what it says? sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Are you familiar with seahorse or libgnome-keyring?
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> ,,,, people
[10:28] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: because when someone attcks your browser he will work with root permissions - so have immediate access to your whole system
[10:28] <bashca> yes  also  i tried  fix broken pack
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> ok and another thing is
[10:28] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, disable all plugins
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> it loads slower
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> how
[10:28] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: if you want to remove the wlan passphrase question - yes
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> loads slower when run as user after I renamed firefox to fire
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> in an attempo to identiy what exe the icon was pointnto
[10:29] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Okay. Could you tell me what I'm doing it wrong? I followed the instruction from LifeHacker and whatnot. Can't get it to work so far.
[10:29] <AkhlD> Pathero-ng, can u help me with http://pastebin.com/d299611eb ?
[10:29] <Pathero-ng> for waht
[10:29] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, you never need to run firefox as root. disable plugins and see which one is causing the slowdown
[10:29] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: http://tinyurl.com/2lwj6a
[10:29] <Pathero-ng> ok man
[10:29] <Pathero-ng> u mean flash
[10:29] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, not really
[10:30] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: you probably have an extension that is slowing down firefox
[10:30] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes  and  i tried  fixing  broken pack >>>>>>>>>
[10:30] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, there are tons of extensions that slow it down as they are badly written
[10:30] <Topy44> diverse_izzue: hm, i removed the files i found there containing it, and the error still shows. do i need to tell apt to re-read its sources list somehow?
[10:30] <Pathero-ng> addon?
[10:30] <nixjr> are firefox plugins user specific?
[10:30] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: yes
[10:31] <bashca> diverse_izzue: ?
[10:31] <Pathero-ng> ok I removed noscript
[10:31] <Pathero-ng> tthat's the only addon
[10:31] <Pathero-ng> but still slow
[10:32] <Pathero-ng> I just disabled plugins
[10:32] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: my only advice is to rename ~/.mozilla, open the browser with a fresh config and set it up again
[10:32] <diverse_izzue> bashca, back, sorry
[10:32] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: I use adblock and noscript and my firefox is fast
[10:33] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: ah I see - I did it the easier way - as I have no passwords stored in that keyring I removed the password from the keyring
[10:33] <diverse_izzue> bashca, what happened when you execute the  command i wrote?
[10:33] <Pathero-ng> I use noscript to block google cookies
[10:33] <Pathero-ng> on pages where it has nothing to do with it
[10:33] <Pathero-ng> such as text translators
[10:33] <bashca> diverse_izzue: I wasn't able to locate file for the flashplugin-nonfree package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package
[10:33] <guntbert> !enter | Pathero-ng
[10:33] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: you can go into your firefox options and block 3rd party cookies, that will help with that
[10:34] <bashca> diverse_izzue: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download
[10:34] <siggy> Andorin: I'm not sure if I get your setup right http://pastebin.com/d2a25a565 care to tell exact models of routers?
[10:34] <Pathero-ng> seems like a good idea renaming mozilla ~
[10:34] <Pathero-ng> do I do it as root
[10:34] <ardchoille> no
[10:34] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: If you think your approach will help, by all means, free feel to guide me. I didn't have seahorse installed (in first place). I'll purge all passwords in seahorse.
[10:34] <Pathero-ng> should I make firefox be owned by user
[10:34] <diverse_izzue> bashca, does the package installation work for other packages?
[10:35] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: nothing in your home diredtory should be owned by root
[10:35] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, you say it is slow, as compared to what? before you started running it as root? On another OS?
[10:36] <bashca> diverse_izzue: nope
[10:36] <diverse_izzue> bashca, ah so effectively your apt is broken :-(
[10:36] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: open seahorse - use the first tab (passwords) - right click on passwords:login - select change password
[10:36] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:37] <Topy44> hm, also ubuntu is constantly telling me that my battery is "old or broken", but as i still get like 3 hours out of it i would hardly call it broken...
[10:37] <Andorin> siggy: Hang on, I'll show you what it's like
[10:37] <diverse_izzue> does dpkg seem to work though? can you e.g. search for packages with dpkg: dpkg -s firefox
[10:38] <wakatake> hi, how do i reduce ubuntu memory footprint?
[10:38] <wakatake> i currently have 86 running processes..some might be unnecessary..how to tell which are relevant and which are not?
[10:39] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:40] <kinja-sheep> wakatake: 86 processes? Are you running a server or something?
[10:40] <diverse_izzue> can you refresh your packages lists with apt? sudo aptitude update?
[10:40] <wakatake> kinja-sheep, yea sir
[10:40] <wakatake> 9.10 LTS
[10:40] <ardchoille> wakatake: 9.10 is not an LTS
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> wakatake: 9.10 is not LTS. It is either 8.04 or 10.04. For starters, you could pastebin some information (ie, installed packages or running services).
[10:41] <wakatake> okie give me a second
[10:41] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes (Reading package lists... Done)
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: It does not work. I kept getting prompted.
[10:41] <geitenneuker> 9.04 is lts i think
[10:42] <diverse_izzue> bashca, does removing work now. sudo aptitude remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:42] <ardchoille> geitenneuker: no
[10:42] <bashca> diverse_izzue: nope
[10:42] <kinja-sheep> geitenneuker: It is not. See above. :O
[10:42] <diverse_izzue> what does it say if you try to install some new package, that you havne't had installed before?
[10:42] <ardchoille> iirc, the only LTS that is supported now are 6.06, 8.04 and 10.04 will be out in April
[10:42] <bashca> diverse_izzue:  package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[10:42] <napsy> Hello. I'm thinking to install arch over my ubuntu installation. The only problem is I have my home encrypted wen installing ubuntu. Can anyone tell me if the ubuntu encryption is compatible with other distributions?
[10:43] <geitenneuker> i wonder why they change the release cycle instead of partial upgrades
[10:43] <bashca> diverse_izzue: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:43] <kinja-sheep> napsy: How did you encrypt your home? Via cryptsetup?
[10:43] <napsy> kinja-sheep: setup did that for me
[10:43] <diverse_izzue> bashca, can you try opening synaptic
[10:43] <bashca> diverse_izzue: ok
[10:44] <kinja-sheep> napsy: Which one? There are two -- Home encryption (eCrypts) or full-system encryption (found in minimal+alternative disc).
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> then go to "custom filters" in the lower left
[10:44] <wakatake> kinja-sheep, http://pastebin.com/md5e5ac6
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> and finally choose "broken" on the left side
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> does it show you any broken packages?
[10:44] <napsy> kinja-sheep: only home encryption when installing ubuntu
[10:44] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes  same  pacakge
[10:44] <bashca> pack..
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> the flashplugin one?
[10:44] <aliquerer> I have a blog in XML format, exported from blogger.com. how do i open it in ubuntu?
[10:44] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:45] <ardchoille> aliquerer: open it in gedit
[10:45] <diverse_izzue> reinstalling from synaptic doesn't work either i guess?
[10:45] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:45] <kinja-sheep> napsy: Err, I'm not sure. "Encrypt home directory" is what you mean? Either way, by all means, you should make backup. cryptsetup is nice and linux-native (if that's not what you're using).
[10:45] <diverse_izzue> bashca, hmmm, try removing it with dpkg directly. sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[10:46] <aliquerer> ardchoille: it wont open correctly
[10:46] <napsy> kinja-sheep: yes I've checked "encrypt home directory" during the installation
[10:46] <bashca> diverse_izzue: dosn't work
[10:46] <bashca> also
[10:46] <aliquerer> ardchoille: i want it to be viewed as a blog or diary
[10:46] <ardchoille> aliquerer: if you're wanting it to look exactly like it looks in blogger, that won't happen
[10:46] <diverse_izzue> bashca, dpkg -S flashplugin-nonfree
[10:47] <napsy> kinja-sheep: now ~/.Private is mounted to my ~/ as "encryptfs"
[10:47] <aliquerer> ardchoille: ok, then how can i do to continue my blogging in a new software?
[10:47] <ardchoille> aliquerer: you'll have to open it from your blogger.com page
[10:47] <bashca> diverse_izzue: in  procressing
[10:47] <ardchoille> aliquerer: see if blogger.com allows "export", and then use that to import it to new software
[10:47] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: the correct place to set the password: http://imagebin.org/80130 (you must set the keyring password!)
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> napsy: I see. I'm not familiar with that one (but cryptsetup is in one of the dependencies).
[10:48] <aliquerer> ardchoille: yes it allows export. that gets me the xml file
[10:48] <diverse_izzue> sorry, bashca, what i wanted was dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> napsy: I don't know if ecryptfs is supported by Arch either.
[10:48] <diverse_izzue> does it list the files belonging to that package?
[10:48] <ardchoille> aliquerer: then see if the new software allows importing of xml files
[10:48] <bashca> diverse_izzue: no  problem  u  r  helping me  don't sorry again ;)
[10:48] <napsy> kinja-sheep: ok thanks anyway ... I think I found a way
[10:49] <bashca> diverse_izzue: iguess  with  L  option  worked  let me tryy it  again
[10:49] <aliquerer> ardchoille: do you know any good software for ubuntu which does that?
[10:50] <ardchoille> aliquerer: no, I use blogger.com because it's easy and I don't have to maintain any software for it, plus I can access my blogger.com account from anywhere in the world
[10:50] <aliquerer> ardchoille: yes thats true, my concern is i dont want others to read my notes
[10:50] <bashca> diverse_izzue: it show me list  ??  what after that
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> bashca, i just wanted to see if the database "knows" what files belong to that package, so that seems to work
[10:51] <ardchoille> aliquerer: if you're wanting something like a wiki-style diary, then try tomboy or gnote.. it's like a desktop wiki
[10:51] <bashca> diverse_izzue: so ?? what next
[10:51] <ardchoille> aliquerer: for personal diary, I simply use gedit and keep a folder of diary pages for each day
[10:52] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Not working. That was the same thing I did. On the side note, I don't have login.keyring under ~/.gnome2/keyrings but default.keyring --> login.keyring does not work either.
[10:52] <diverse_izzue> bashca, i found some guy describing what he did to get out of that problem on his blog: http://casedogdesigns.com/wordpress/ubuntu-inconsistent-apt-get-state/
[10:52] <aliquerer> ardchoille: I c, maybe i do that. but it would be good if i could import all my entries somehow :/
[10:52] <silv3r_m00n> how to run quanta plus on kde 4 ?
[10:53] <aliquerer> Need diary software which can imprt XML-files
[10:53] <bashca> diverse_izzue: thanks  i will  visit   it
[10:53] <ardchoille> aliquerer: I wrote a small tutorial about daily journals/dairies: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-daily-journal-with-panel.html
[10:53] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: then I don't know - sorry
[10:53] <diverse_izzue> bashca, good luck
[10:54] <phaese> is anyone familiar with devkit-power?
[10:54] <aliquerer> ardchoille: ty, seems a bit complicateed though :/
[10:55] <papul> hi. i want to uninstall and then reinstall openssl without uninstalling its dependencies
[10:55] <lanoxx> hi, i have an ntfs partition mounted and everytime i delete a file it is copied to /<ntfs-root-folder>/.Trash-1000
[10:55] <lanoxx> but if i empty the trash in nautilus then nothing gets removed from there
[10:55] <lanoxx> do i have to empty this folder by my self?
[10:56] <lanoxx> or is there another way?
[10:56] <diverse_izzue> bashca, let me know if that helps
[10:56] <Andorin> lanoxx: I think so. That's what I've had to do before.
[10:56] <ardchoille> aliquerer: once it's all set up, the work is over and you only need to edit the journal. the work takes four minutes
[10:56] <Andorin> I manually find the deleted files and try to delete them. It warns you that it can't send them to Trash and asks if you want to delete them straightaway.
[10:56] <lanoxx> Andorin, so i just remove the whole folder or just its subfolders? I was a bit confused because there are two subfolders info and files
[10:56] <ardchoille> aliquerer: there are other diary/journal apps in the repos. open a terminal and run:  apt-cache search diary
[10:57] <aliquerer> ardchoille: ok thank you very much :)
[10:57] <bashca> diverse_izzue: sudo dpkg –force-remove-reinstreq –remove flashplugin-nonfree   dosn't work also
[10:57] <Andorin> lanoxx: I never tried just deleting .Trash-1000... I go through the folders until I find the files themselves, or their parent directories, and just erase those.
[10:57] <ardchoille> aliquerer: rednotebook is pretty good too
[10:57] <diverse_izzue> bashca, I'm sorry I'm out of ideas.
[10:58] <lanoxx> Andorin, hmm, my .Trash-1000 is already about 8.8 gb
[10:58] <diverse_izzue> anybody a dpkg-guru and can help bashca??
[10:58] <bashca> diverse_izzue: thanks
[10:58] <lanoxx> Andorin,  deleting each file by hand might be a bit of work
[10:58] <lanoxx> Andorin, do you thing its save to just delete the contents of info and files?
[10:59] <Andorin> lanoxx: What do you see in .Trash-1000/files?
[10:59] <papul_> hi. i want to uninstall and then reinstall openssl without uninstalling its dependencies
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> papul_: "sudo aptitude reinstall openssl" ?
[11:00] <papul_> kinja-sheep, i dunno
[11:00] <papul_> is that correct?
[11:00] <kinja-sheep> papul_: The manual say "reinstall    - Download and (possibly) reinstall a currently installed package
[11:00] <kinja-sheep> "
[11:00] <Topy44> how can i control my eee pc 701/4g cpu speed on karmic?
[11:00] <lanoxx> Andorin, hundreds of files
[11:01] <Andorin> lanoxx: Ctrl+A and hit Delete
[11:01] <evanthia> notify-send is not using milliseconds as said in the man. why is that. I want to reduce the time the notification is showing as it is annoyingly long now. Is something else overriding it?
[11:01] <lanoxx> Andorin, what about the info folder?
[11:01] <Andorin> lanoxx: How big is the folder?
[11:03] <lanoxx> .Trash-1000/files is 8.8 gb and .Trash-1000/info is 6mb
[11:03] <lanoxx> it seems to be some kind of meta data folder
[11:03] <lanoxx> because all the files there have the same nam
[11:03] <lanoxx> name
[11:03] <lanoxx> Topy44, atom cpus are missing speed control afaik
[11:04] <Topy44> its not an atom
[11:04] <Andorin> Sooo erase everything in /files and see if /info empties automatically
[11:04] <Topy44> first generation eee, so its a celeron m
[11:04] <meowbuntu> hi finally i have been able to get in.
[11:05] <meowbuntu> i have just installed ubuntu studio for testing. and i was not allowed to get into the server without regestering. i nevercame accrosss this when using ubuntu
[11:06] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: The changes took places within 24 hours ago.
[11:06] <meowbuntu> y is that
[11:06] <troopperi> Topy44, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/eee-control-utility-for-controlling-eee-pc-hardware.html, i dont know if that works, i use eeebuntu ( eeebuntu.org )where it is allready on system
[11:06] <meowbuntu> its annoying and a pain for new users
[11:06] <meowbuntu> there was no clear instrustions on how to regester
[11:06] <kinja-sheep> !register | meowbuntu
[11:06] <Topy44> troopperi: my whole point is that eee control doesnt exist for karmic
[11:07] <meowbuntu> i am regestered now arnt i
[11:07] <Topy44> its what i used on intrepid, but there is no karmic version, and someone said that its not needed as the karmic kernel would have the functionality included already
[11:07] <Topy44> but i dont know how to use it
[11:07] <meowbuntu> there should be this info on #ubuntu-unregged
[11:07] <zetheroo> anyone here familiar with using Clonezilla?
[11:07] <Andorin> lanoxx: Any luck?
[11:07] <meowbuntu> ^ kinja-sheep
[11:07] <troopperi> Topy44, is there packet name eee-control?
[11:07] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: It is not you. This channel have different modes now. Forget it. Got any support/questions? :)_
[11:08] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[11:08] <meowbuntu> yes is there a channel for ubuntu studio or is this where i come
[11:08] <Topy44> troopperi: umh, do you want me to repeat my answer? :)
[11:08] <lanoxx> Andorin, yeah files are gone now
[11:08] <Topy44> no karmic version, therefore no paket, obviously :)
[11:08] <Topy44> thats the whole point
[11:08] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: #ubuntu-studio (but you knew that).
[11:09] <troopperi> Topy44, no need... :)
[11:09] <meowbuntu> yes joined just after
[11:09] <Andorin> lanoxx: Great. It's weird that it doesn't ask to clear the trash on that partition when you unmount the partition... it's what the storage partition on my HD, and now my portable hard drive, do.
[11:09] <lanoxx> hmm, it gets mounted at boot time with fstab
[11:09] <Andorin> And the trashed files generally show up in my Trash directory regardless of the device.
[11:10] <lanoxx> hmm
[11:10] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[11:10] <lanoxx> Andorin, yeah thats strange
[11:10] <lanoxx> i also just saw that i have 20 broken file in the info directory and im unable to delete them
[11:10] <babalu> hello, i'm trying to create an ad-hoc network to share my internet connection, i managed to create an ad-hoc network with ubuntu, but the windows computer does not see it; with ubuntu, i created the ad-hoc network using command-line, and i'm now able to ping myself, but windows does not see the ad-hoc network :(
[11:11] <lanoxx> Andorin, they look like this on the terminal: -????????? ? ?               ?        ?                ? duplicates.txt.trashinfo
[11:11] <simba_> amd64.iso or i386.iso for intel 64bit cpu's?
[11:11] <uchimata> hi, has anyone an idea which global settings file has to be adjusted to define the keymap for a newly created user -- cli based? or any documentation about the gconf schema files in /usr/share/gconf?
[11:11] <Andorin> lanoxx: Strange. When I delete a file from /files the relevant files in /info gets deleted too.
[11:11] <evanthia> is there a way to change the annoying 10s timeout notify-osd uses?
[11:12] <bashca> diverse_izzue: dpkg: need an action option  ( i did  the corect  command  dpkg --force -remove-reinstreq flashplugin-nonfree )
[11:12] <Andorin> evanthia: Good question. I want to know this too.
[11:13] <siggy> diverse_izzue: add --remove that's the action option
[11:13] <lanoxx> Andorin, im going to boot xp and run chkdsk
[11:13] <Andorin> k
[11:14] <diverse_izzue> bashca, ^ (siggy)
[11:14] <bashca> siggy: same  things
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> how do I get rid of things on the bootlist in grub2?
[11:14] <bashca> siggy: dpkg --force -remove-reinstreq -remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:15] <lanoxx> Starcraftmazter, afaik there is a tool you can run
[11:15] <zetheroo> Dextronaught: not normal
[11:16] <zetheroo> Dextronaught: are you using the Adobe flash plugin for FF?
[11:16] <siggy> bashca: dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:18] <bashca> siggy: siggy siggy tahnks  100 times
[11:18] <bashca> thanks
[11:18] <diddy> Is there a chat program that does not require a server? I want to chat with my friend and we know each others IPs.
[11:18] <bashca> siggy: but also  wont resolve me  problem :(
[11:18] <siggy> bashca: you're welcome
[11:19] <Diverdude> if i am in a multiuser system, is it possible to see who has been doing operations on my files/folders, or if there has been done operations on these?
[11:19]  * bashca still  have the same  problem  :(
[11:20] <bashca> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing
[11:20] <VCoolio> Diverdude: 'stat file' gives a modification date
[11:21] <Diverdude> VCoolio, and if a user just did an ls in my folder?
[11:21] <Diverdude> VCoolio, can i detect that?
[11:21] <Diverdude> VCoolio, or copied or opened a file
[11:22] <VCoolio> Diverdude: I don't know if that's a possibility; maybe there is a very detailed logging app that will keep track; that's all I got
[11:22] <nixjr> wky does openoffice for unbuntu only require a ~15mb download, but on windows it took hundreds of mb?
[11:26] <wakatake> nixjr, a propaganda
[11:27] <kinja-sheep> nixjr: Cos I canz EMAIL in word. Cos I canz DATABASE in word. Cos I canz GAME in word. http://tinyurl.com/ya4b6wm
[11:28] <nefele> If I install lucid alpha 2, will I be able to seamlessly apt-get upgrade to the release version once it comes out in April?
[11:28] <pentanol> hey, anybody use encoded dvb-s channels on x86_64 arch? which client you use for cccam?
[11:29] <kinja-sheep> nefele: Yes.
[11:30] <nefele> kinja-sheep, thanks
[11:32] <meowbuntu> the app hydrogen only available for ubuntu 9.10 64bin ??? any ideas how i can get it for i386.i686 http://www.hydrogen-music.org/?p=download
[11:35] <guntbert> !info hydrogen | meowbuntu
[11:36] <meowbuntu> guntbert,  there is no 32bit 4 9.10 http://www.hydrogen-music.org/?p=download
[11:36] <guntbert> meowbuntu: why don't you use the one from the repos?
[11:36] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Dear $DEITY, I have completed my quest. Leave the password blanks for profile:login. You did it that way too?
[11:36] <meowbuntu> repos there is not one there
[11:37] <meowbuntu> i looked in synaptic ok
[11:37] <kinja-sheep> !latest | meowbuntu
[11:37] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: yes - I thought I told you so - but maybe I didn't - glad it worked out for you
[11:37] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: It'll be in Lucid.
[11:37] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: I wished I knew that (or you telling me). Either way, it was hassle begone.
[11:38] <meowbuntu> kinja-sheep, lucid ?????? check out there site http://www.hydrogen-music.org/?p=download
[11:38] <silv3r_m00n> if I install all packages of synaptic how much space will that require approx. ?
[11:38] <silv3r_m00n> 100gb , 200gb ?
[11:38] <kinja-sheep> !lucid | meowbuntu
[11:38] <Pure> Hey
[11:38] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: In three months time.  Or somebody will make a PPA/deb for it.
[11:38] <meowbuntu> kinja-sheep, if it is there wont work on karmic will it
[11:39] <Pure> Camn I install the server edition of ubuntu from within windows?
[11:39] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: :) - looking back I see what happened - before I could tell you to leave it blank you told me "didn't work" - so I assumed you  were doing the right thing :)
[11:39] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: For one application, it should be okay, but you're welcome to test it.
[11:39] <uchimata> hi, has anyone an idea which global settings file has to be adjusted to define the keymap for a newly created user -- cli based? or any documentation about the gconf schema files in /usr/share/gconf?
[11:39] <guntbert> meowbuntu: hydrogen is definitely in the repos for karmic
[11:40] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: The instruction were told to make the keyring password same as the login/user password.  Arrrg! :-)
[11:40] <meowbuntu> guntbert, kinja-sheep i found one for i386 strange its ino in offical hydrogen site though ay https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/i386/hydrogen
[11:41] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: thats what usually works - *if* you login with your password - but otherwise ...
[11:42] <guntbert> meowbuntu: please tell my, why you don't use hydrogen from the repos!
[11:42] <guntbert> *me
[11:42] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Within Windows? If you mean !virtual, you can. Have fun playing with it.
[11:42] <error404notfound> I have a free partition of about 4G, What if i dd chrome os image on that? what entry should i add to my grub?
[11:42] <Pure> No, I mean over my current install
[11:42] <Akkernight> how is ubuntu support for tablets?
[11:42] <Pure> Replacing windows
[11:43] <meowbuntu> gun its not in synaptic ok
[11:43] <meowbuntu> ^ guntbert
[11:43] <meowbuntu> guntbert, i do not know where reop is for it ok
[11:44] <Pure> I've seen programs that do it, but I want to install server over XP
[11:44]  * Pure doesn't like GUI
[11:44] <iceroot> meowbuntu: apt-cache search hydrogen
[11:44] <guntbert> meowbuntu: it is - did you enable universe? then "reload"
[11:45] <kinja-sheep> error404notfound: Ask in #grub.  If I remember it correctly, use "update-grub" or "grub-mkconfig" -- There are os-prober script that will search for linux and other OS which will generate the result in grub.cfg.
[11:45] <error404notfound> kinja-sheep, thanks
[11:47] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Grab Ubuntu-Server ISO. Burn the disc. Pop it in. Reboot. Install Server. (Bye bye Windows).
[11:47] <Pure> I don't have any cds
[11:47] <kinja-sheep> Pure: How about USB? There are many ways to install.
[11:48] <Pure> How would I install from usb?
[11:48] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: btw I actually told you to remove the password <guntbert>  ... I removed the password from the keyring
[11:48] <kinja-sheep> Pure: unetbootin, maybe. Is this the only machine you own? (ie, any other way for you to stay on #ubuntu with us).
[11:49] <vlt> Hello. I have several ubnutu servers in my network. Now my (maybe stupid) question: How could someone attack google's servers with a Browser? What do I have to do to protect my systems?
[11:49] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Well, I apologized for not paying attention.
[11:49] <Pure> I have 3 machines
[11:49] <Pure> This is my main one, I'm keeping it windows
[11:49] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Okay. unetbootin should be able to get the job done.
[11:49] <Pure> One has 20GB HDD with XP on, I want to put server on that
[11:49] <kinja-sheep> !unetbootin | Pure
[11:49] <meowbuntu> hi is there a list of apps where i can find all the aps useful for creating backing tracks for musicians
[11:49] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: :) - no problem at all - it was more a question of my mental sanity :-))
[11:50] <vlt> meowbuntu: Look at what comes with !ubuntustudio
[11:50] <kinja-sheep> Pure: I like zcat the 12MB-something tar.gz to usb and install it over network myself. You can try that if unetbootin does not work.
[11:50] <guntbert> meowbuntu: did you get hydrogen yet?
[11:50] <Pure> Do I need to kill my flash drive?
[11:51] <zetheroo> I am converting an AVI to FLV but the output file is really bad quality ... how do people get mice crisp videos up on YouTube?
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Formatting. That will happen, yes.
[11:51] <Pure> Erf
[11:51] <silv3r_m00n> I want to create 4 partitions on a 1Tb hd.... like 250x4 .... so shud I make all of them primary ....or first one primary and rest 3 inside an extended partition ?
[11:51] <meowbuntu> gun yes i found it was already installed. i forgot i had installed all the packds when installing
[11:51] <vlt> zetheroo: Maybe by uploading mp4/h264 video and let yt convert it
[11:51] <Pure> Would I be able to use Symantec Ghost?
[11:51] <iceroot> !tab | meowbuntu
[11:52] <Pure> or similar
[11:52] <andyl> do you guys think running a ubuntu on a quad core cpu (core 2 quad) is overkill ?
[11:52] <zetheroo> vlt: MP4? ok ... will try .. it might be a big file though ...
[11:52] <meowbuntu> iceroot, thansk i have been using irc for 7 months i know that
[11:52] <iceroot> meowbuntu: then use it :)
[11:53] <kinja-sheep> andyl: You'll have fast time encoding videos. How is that not overkill? Also, operating systems are more of personal choices, not competitions.
[11:53] <meowbuntu> i do just sometimes it will not work
[11:53] <meowbuntu> iceroot, i know what you mean. dont be all i am better than you
[11:54] <andyl> ok
[11:54] <meowbuntu> iceroot, we are all equal here.
[11:54] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: That depends on what you want to do with the partitions. (In most cases I'd recommend using LVM anyway)
[11:54] <iceroot> meowbuntu: dont flame me, just use complet nicks in this chat because of highlight
[11:54] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: lvm ?
[11:55] <vlt> !lvm | silv3r_m00n
[11:55] <meowbuntu> iceroot, whatever
[11:55] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: For simple setups ignore the RAID part ;-)
[11:55] <Pure> What do most bioses mean by network boot?
[11:55] <iceroot> Pure: booting an os over the network using PXE (thin clients do it)
[11:55] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: But you should know first what you're actually need
[11:56] <vlt> Pure: PXE I think
[11:56] <Pure> I'm wodnering if the computer supports it
[11:56] <iceroot> Pure: the bios has to support it
[11:56] <Pure> So, could I boot the installer over PXE?
[11:57] <iceroot> Pure: no
[11:57] <Pure> Ghost it?
[11:57] <iceroot> Pure: you need a terminal-server for that
[11:57] <Pure> Any thing over the network?
[11:57] <vlt> Pure: You can also install a tiny PXE boot image to another bootable medium like floppy, usb or even the network card's ROM. See www.etherboot.org for example
[11:58] <kinja-sheep> Pure: PXE is more complicated than USB installation. It works by having one machine serving boot files and any other machines with PXE-capable booting (then obtain files from the first machine)... to install stuffs.
[11:59] <Pure> I wonder if that 1GB flash drive still works...
[11:59] <vlt> Pure: PXE is a collection of protocols. First the client does DHCP, then TFTP for the kernel
[11:59] <guntbert> iceroot: thanks for trying - you didn't deserve the harsh words from meowbuntu :)
[11:59] <iceroot> guntbert: i dont care :)
[11:59] <guntbert> iceroot: :)
[12:00] <Pure> I might see if I can find some floppies later
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: over here http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MfwRx_4ERx8/Sa6_NX-VJ2I/AAAAAAAAAxI/m5gNeh84icA/s400/ubuntu-partition-9.jpg   how to do lvm or raid ?
[12:01] <Pure> Might be a bit of overkill on the number of floppies
[12:02] <iceroot> Pure: why not using a normal installation? or the netinstall image?
[12:02] <Pure> Because I'm REALLY awkward
[12:02] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Grab another hard drive. Something small for Core. Use 1TB for Media.  Keep things separate and clean.
[12:02] <Pure> netinstall?
[12:02] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: What exactly do you need?
[12:02] <iceroot> !netinstall | Pure
[12:03] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: I want to create 4 partitions 250gb each on a 1tb hdd.....now shud all 4 be primary or 1st shud be primary and rest 3 logical into 1 extended
[12:03] <silv3r_m00n> e.g. http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/images/install-new-partition-second-div.png
[12:03] <kinja-sheep> iceroot: He want to install server edition, not desktop. I advised him to use USB. It is also fast too.
[12:04] <jeeez> is there any tool(s) for monitoring network usage? i want an hourly report on how much data was uploaded/downloaded
[12:04] <Pure> Ah, I see
[12:04] <schultza> !sound
[12:05] <meowbuntu-afk> is it ok to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in ubuntu studio.
[12:05] <iceroot> kinja-sheep: imo there is also netinstall for server
[12:05] <iceroot> meowbuntu-afk: sure
[12:05] <ruohki> i used usb-modeswitch to set it into the right mode
[12:06] <ruohki> damnit... this goes first =) i used usb-modeswitch to set it into the right mode
[12:06] <ruohki> ...
[12:06] <ruohki> hello, got a little problem with my umts-stick its huawai k3765.
[12:07] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: I use nethogs but I don't know if it is capable of outputting (for scripts).
[12:07] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: That depends on what you want to do with the partitions.
[12:07] <jeeez> kinja-sheep: i don't need it to be too detailed! visual output would do :)
[12:08] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: It is CLI command. From the point you ran the command, you can see how many MB it collects up to.
[12:09] <jeeez> thats awesome! i think  its exactly what i'm looking for. let me check it out
[12:09] <schultza> Grrr. I really dont want to get another computer just for linux.
[12:10] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: Press m to switch between total and kb/s mode
[12:10] <schultza> Who's good with audio? I'm having problems with an HP dv7-2185dx where I plug in the headset, and it still plays on the speakers. It plays on the headset at the same time. Computer is only seeing one Analog audio card on lspci.
[12:10] <jeeez> kinja-sheep:  you read minds, dude?
[12:11] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: If I could, I would have scared you by answering your question before you asked. Fortunately, no.
[12:12] <jeeez> kinja-sheep: will look forward to that! thanks man :)
[12:12] <kinja-sheep> schultza: You might want to try padevchooser
[12:12] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: ubuntu on first and backups on rest
[12:12] <schultza> installed. How do I access it?
[12:13] <kinja-sheep> schultza: Application --> Sound --> Have fun.
[12:13] <Real_Ubot> I can't login to my ssh server using keys. I get "Permission denied (publickey)." Anyone know why I get this message?
[12:13] <aliquerer> I need to create a serveron my desktop, so that i can start a blog for personal use only. How do I do?
[12:14] <BlouBlou> aliquerer: Will your blog be accesible from internet?
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: https://www.blogger.com/
[12:14] <aliquerer> BlouBlou: no i dont want it to be accesible from internet
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> BlouBlou: Personal Use? You want Tomboy.
[12:15] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: ?
[12:15] <BlouBlou> aliquerer: In that case install wordpress
[12:16] <meowbuntu-afk> is this a valid command in ubuntu. .      sudo aptitude install (apname)
[12:16] <BlouBlou> kinja-sheep: Thanks, but I am helping to aliquerer, he is who wants it, not me :)
[12:16] <aliquerer> BlouBlou: yes that was my intention :) but i need to install a server on my computer to use wordpress. Right?
[12:16] <guntbert> meowbuntu-afk: yes - aptitude is another packet manager like apt-get
[12:17] <schultza> I even turned on notifications. It's not seeing when I [un]plug the headset
[12:17] <c0ndr> Request: does someone suggest me a free web hosting? thanks
[12:17] <iflema> meowbuntu-afk yes
[12:17] <BlouBlou> aliquerer: That depends, apache is good server, but it's used for internet connections (or local), if you want be accesible from your pc only just install wordpress, and open blog with firefox via "file://"
[12:17] <meowbuntu-afk> guntbert, aptitude does more than apt-get right
[12:17] <Real_Ubot> I think ssh-copy-id hasn't added a public key to my ssh server authorization file. Why isn't ssh-copy-id working?
[12:18] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu-afk: aptitude, apt-get, synaptic, software center, gdebi -- all valid.
[12:18] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu-afk: Whoops, I forget dpkg.
[12:19] <schultza> I think I may go back to the last LTS and see if it works.
[12:19] <guntbert> meowbuntu-afk: they are both frontends to the same back-end - they do some things different - I prefer aptitude (one thing - it autoremoves packages which where only pulled in for a dependency when you remove the dependant app)
[12:19]  * meowbuntu-afk laughs at the ripp-off nickname of Real_Ubot
[12:19] <schultza> Where can I find the Alsa mixer?
[12:20] <guntbert> *were
[12:20] <kinja-sheep> schultza: It is matter of configuration before you get it working. alsamixer is in alsa-utils.
[12:21] <meowbuntu-afk> schultza, in terminal type alsamixer
[12:21] <meowbuntu-afk> schultza, i use gnome-alsamixer its a fruntend for alsamixer just easier to use
[12:21] <schultza> Sound is coming out of both speaker and headset. It's a mixing issue.
[12:22] <schultza> Yes. Where is the GUI for this. Front and Speaker are listed in Alsamixer.
[12:22] <aliquerer> BlouBlou: i dont get it the installation seems very complicated. How do i install it on my omputer?
[12:23] <iflema> schultza in the sound preferences, on the output tab, do you have an option to select connector?
[12:23] <schultza> sound pref? hmmm
[12:23] <kinja-sheep> !info lighttpd | aliquerer
[12:24] <iflema> System / Preferences / sound
[12:24] <schultza> Nope.... Only lists one item. Internal Audio Analog Stereo.
[12:24] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: It is minimal. Just put stuffs in /var/www or set up symbolic links to a folder.
[12:24] <aliquerer> ubottu: i dont want to create a webserver i want to keep the blog on my computer
[12:25] <aliquerer> kinja-sheep: i dont want to create a webserver i want to keep the blog on my computer
[12:25] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: You can configure the webserver to serve localhost or LAN.
[12:25] <iflema> schultza System / Preferences / sound, output tab, connector selector?
[12:25] <schultza> iflema: Nope. Only lists one item. "Internal Audio Analog Stereo".
[12:26] <schultza> iflema: No. It just says Choose a device for sound output (which lists one). Settings for selected device shows Balance only. No other options on that tab.
[12:27] <aliquerer> kinja-sheep:: how do i install lighttpd?
[12:27] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: sudo aptitude install lighttpd
[12:28] <iflema> schultza switching between different settings under the hardware tab may open this option
[12:29] <schultza> Internal Audio vs ATI Video card's HDMI... nope.. staying Internal Audio... profile lists several options...
[12:30] <schultza> Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo Output, Digital Stereo (IEC958) Ouput + Analog Stereo Input, Digital Stereo Duplex (IEC958), Analog Stereo Input, and Off.
[12:31] <schultza> None of which changes the Output tab to where you were talking about.
[12:32] <melfy> so i just plugged up an external hdd to ubuntu and nothing pops up any suggestions?  it's a 40gb formatted ntfs and ntfs-3g was already installed =/
[12:32] <ikonia> melfy: does it not show an icon on the desktop /
[12:32] <kinja-sheep> melfy: Does "sudo fdisk -l" list a new hard drive?
[12:32] <melfy> nothing, and nothing under mnt or media
[12:33] <melfy> doesn't look like it
[12:34] <kinja-sheep> melfy: Meh, try different USB port or if your external HDD need to be powered on? (missing power cable?)
[12:34] <melfy> will check diff port, it has power adaptor and light is on
[12:36] <melfy> that worked, asking me to force mount now... that was odd thanks :O lol