[12:01] <holycow> danke
[12:01] <ITSa341> Anyone got any advice on an EVDO ( cellular ) card for use in Ubuntu? I don't want to sign up for two years and buy a $100 card and find it won't work right.
[12:01] <Amaranth> kitche: *shrug* Just repeating what I've heard, I've never owned a geforce 2 of any kind
[12:01] <Hova> plaese help im trying to instal partimage-0.6.4-1    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35664/
[12:01] <jmg> hi all
[12:01] <kitche> Stormx2: <area code>-<prefix>-<suffix>
[12:01] <jmg> i am having issues creating an lvm
[12:01] <holycow> mnoir, oh dude, this builds a deb?
[12:01] <Stormx2> kitche: How many digits in each?
[12:01] <mnoir> holycow: it is really a side effect but totally legit
[12:01] <mnoir> yes it does...
[12:01] <jmg> pvcreate works, but vgcreate wont add
[12:01] <ITSa341> Stormx2  3 3 4
[12:01] <holycow> mnoir, *blink* and *whoa*
[12:02] <ITSa341> Stormx2  (xxx) xxx-xxxx
[12:02] <holycow> mnoir, i have needed something like this for a while, i really hate doing all the package stuff manually
[12:02] <Amaranth> Stormx2: Use<PHONE_NUMBER>
[12:02] <holycow> wow i really appreciate that
[12:02] <mnoir> it's purpose is to inject a non-distribution pkg into the std dist mgt set
[12:02] <jmg> root@zhadum:~# pvcreate /dev/sda3 Physical volume "/dev/sda3" successfully created
[12:02] <jmg> root@zhadum:~# vgcreate vm /dev/sda3 No physical volume label read from /dev/sda3
[12:02] <Amaranth> Stormx2: That's the weatherline in my city. Gives forecasts. :)
[12:02] <mnoir> i discovered it in ubuntu
[12:02] <Vich> you know how mac osx has that launcher thing at the bottom?
[12:02] <Vich> is there a similar thing for linux?
[12:02] <jmg> whats the deal?
[12:02] <mnoir> actually saw it in a forum... :)
[12:02] <Amaranth> Vich: That horrible thing called the Dock?
[12:02] <lubix> vich bsd
[12:02] <jmg> Vich: yes but i forget its name
[12:02] <holycow> mnoir, thanks dude, that helps a lot
[12:03] <holycow> Amaranth, -_-, indeed
[12:03] <holycow> i'm with you on that one
[12:03] <holycow> hehe :)
[12:03] <mnoir> main value to me is a clean uninstall, whatever the pkg has or doesn't for uninstall
[12:03] <mnoir> np :)
[12:03] <holycow> mnoir, i swear by dpkg, i refuse to do make-installs anymore
[12:03] <Stormx2> ITSa341: Still only 5gb, but thats okay. Thats more free space than I have over 120gb hard disks.
[12:04] <jmg> *stab*
[12:04] <philip_> just signed up, only got 5GB
[12:04] <Hova> C compiler cannot create executables,what dose this mean and what can i do
[12:04] <Amaranth> holycow: You will get stabbed in the face with a spoon if you use checkinstall
[12:04] <ITSa341> Stormx2   That's wierd, I signed up last week and got 50GB free
[12:04] <Amaranth> holycow: It's a total hack
[12:04] <nuked_omen> sancho, i'm waiting
[12:04] <Stormx2> Hova: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:04] <kitche> Hova: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:04] <Stormx2> snap!
[12:04] <sancho> nuked_omen: I sent it over private chat, but here it is again<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:04] <Hova> Thank you both
[12:05] <mnoir> holycow: I dunno if it will work for you - you need the make install for it to work i think.
[12:05] <mnoir> It was designed as a sneaky tool http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/
[12:05] <Stormx2> ITSa341: Wheres the FF extension? ^__^
[12:05] <holycow> Amaranth, lol. hack in a very bad way or just bad enough that it doesn't create packages that should be publised yet they work?
[12:06] <tjb891> can anyone how to tell me how to upgrade from 6.06 without losing all my installed programs,settings, and home folder?
[12:06] <Amaranth> holycow: that second one
[12:06] <ITSa341> Stormx2   bbiam I'll find it for ya
[12:06] <Amaranth> holycow: no doubt it works on _your_machine
[12:06] <Amaranth> holycow: but on others....
[12:06] <Amaranth> back later, dinner
[12:06] <Stormx2> ITSa341: I had a look on addons.mozilla.org and came up blank
[12:06] <psychad> does anyone know which ubuntu 6.10 package i need to have installed so that mplayer (compiled from source) can decode mp3 properly ?
[12:07] <Hova> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:07] <Hova> im still getting the sam thing
[12:07] <sancho> nuked_omen, so, what shall I do now, wait for some mail, or stay at the channel?
[12:07] <mnoir> upgrade
[12:07] <Thumper322> Hova: What's up with the C compiler?
[12:07] <ITSa341> Stormx2  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1593/
[12:07] <Thumper322> Hova: You have build-essential installed?
[12:08] <Hova> Unpacking build-essential (from .../build-essential_11.3_i386.deb) ...
[12:08] <Hova> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:08] <Hova>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[12:08] <Hova> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:08] <nuked_omen> sancho, i'll drop you an email
[12:08] <Stormx2> ITSa341: Thats the gmail one? xD
[12:08] <Hova> Thumper322:i tryed to but im getting that ^^
[12:08] <disco_stu> Does anybody have problems with Google Earth being incredibly laggy?
[12:08] <Stormx2> ITSa341: I was looking for the xdrive one...
[12:08] <sancho> nuked_omen, thanks, so I am going to bet (it's midnight around here :-)
[12:08] <ITSa341> yup
[12:08] <sancho> Bye, everyone.
[12:08] <ITSa341> ahh it's web loaded interface
[12:09] <J4kch> ITSa341: xDrive isn't working for me, I get an Error Code: 9003.
[12:09] <START21> can somebody help me with setting up my wireless on ubuntu 6.10 =(
[12:10] <kerwonz> what package include the kit for developers? g++, c++, etc...
[12:10] <Stormx2> ITSa341: How do I use xdrive then? xD is support included in the GDrive extension? I can't see any mention of it..
[12:11] <Hova>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[12:11] <Hova> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:11] <ITSa341> Stormx2  just log in at xdrive.com and then click "launch xDrive"
[12:11] <Stormx2> ITSa341: oh okay
[12:12] <ITSa341> J4kch  Sorry, I know nothing about their error messages, it has always just worked perfectly for me
[12:12] <J4kch> ITSa341: Alright, what country do you live in tho?
[12:12] <Hova> Software index is broken, ??
[12:12] <Hova> what do i do
[12:12] <ITSa341> Stormx2   It shows 50GB available still and I am using the free version from AOL
[12:12] <ITSa341> J4kch   USA
[12:13] <J4kch> ITSa341: That might have something to do with it
[12:13] <Stormx2> ITSa341: Its no big deal don't worry
[12:13] <J4kch> Stormx2: What country you in?
[12:13] <dogmeat> folks is it possible to repart a ext3/2 partition to reclaim drive space using free space for a new os install?
[12:13] <ITSa341> Stormx2  All my signup information showed 5gb but when I log in at the top it shows 50GB   hehehe  maybe it will for you when you get logged in also. :-)
[12:14] <hjmills> where should i go to find out about securing my irc servere?
[12:14] <hjmills>     sorry - server
[12:14] <mnoir> gparted
[12:15] <ITSa341> Anyone got any advice on an EVDO ( cellular ) card for use in Ubuntu? I don't want to sign up for two years and buy a $100 card and find it won't work right.
[12:15] <dogmeat> mnoir: gparted would do it?
[12:15] <BlueLaguna> is there any package for vim-enhanced?
[12:15] <BlueLaguna> Basically, syntax highlighting for vim
[12:15] <mnoir> yes - i expected a factoid
[12:15] <mnoir> blue - the folks in #vim might (just a theory) know that
[12:15] <START21> has anyone been able to get wireless workong on the new ubuntu?
[12:16] <Stormx2> START21: what, 7.04?
[12:16] <lostinc> Can anyone tell me why my laptop (running edgy eft) fails to see the CDROM after being on all night?
[12:16] <regx> hi
[12:17] <START21> 6.10
[12:17] <BlueLaguna> mnoir: Yes...I know it exists, but I was wondering if it did for Ubuntu...
[12:17] <BlueLaguna> hence me asking in #ubuntu...
[12:17] <Stormx2> lostinc: try another CD...
[12:17] <lostinc> I have tried several CDrs
[12:17] <Stormx2> !wireless
[12:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:17] <START21> this is my first time using an operating system other than windows i finally got rid of my windows xp
[12:17] <Stormx2> Aah
[12:17] <lostinc> If i reboot there will be no probs
[12:17] <Stormx2> START21: See what ubotu just put? Have a look there...
[12:18] <Stormx2> lostinc: I have absolutely no idea. Maybe post on ubuntuforums.org or submit a bug?
[12:18] <START21> thanks ill monkey around with that
[12:18] <START21> if i get stuck ill ask for help i guess
[12:18] <lostinc> Okay Ill try that.
[12:18] <dogmeat> mnoir: thanks
[12:18] <Stormx2> START21: Yeah go ahead :)
[12:18] <Stormx2> asparagui: Why would it crash?
[12:18] <asparagui> did it again.
[12:19] <asparagui> and i got all the updates that time.
[12:19] <asparagui> anybody know how to read crash logs?
[12:19] <Jeeva> How can i see how long my pppoe connection has been active ?
[12:19] <Hoag> Hey all. Is there a way to check window names as they open and apply wmctrl changes to it automatically?
[12:19] <Hova> Hey i keep getting this E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libpthread.a', which is also in package libpthread-dev
[12:19] <AdamKili> (hey I'm doing a 5 min presentation on linux) - Am I correct in assuming that quite a few features used in proprietary software were in free software first? (like maybe Firefox's tabbed browsing)
[12:20] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Yeah
[12:20] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Windows TCP/IP stack too.
[12:20] <apokryphos> AdamKili: I'm not sure which browser had it first, but Opera had tabs before Firefox, for sure
[12:20] <VGambit> uh
[12:20] <dxdt> AdamKili, the tabbed browsing thing gets hard.  I mean firefox had it before IE, but the original tab browsing concept goes back a really long time
[12:20] <apokryphos> and that's actually proprietary
[12:20] <VGambit> how do I upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:20] <apokryphos> VGambit: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:20] <Stormx2> !edgy
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:21] <VGambit> gracias
[12:21] <Stormx2> apokryphos: heh, got an auto reply?
[12:21] <apokryphos> Stormx2: nope, just an alias for that one 8)
[12:21] <okan> hi there, just installed ubuntu, how can i change my screen resolution ???
[12:21] <VGambit> rofl
[12:21] <Hova> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libpthread.a', which is also in package libpthread-dev
[12:21] <apokryphos> okan: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:21] <Hova> ??
[12:21] <AdamKili> Then maybe tabbed browsing isn't a good example. Are there any really good examples anyone knows of?
[12:21] <zambonie> AdamKili: that goes both ways.
[12:21] <Stormx2> okan: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[12:21] <Valmarko>  glxinfo |grep vendor
[12:21] <Valmarko> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[12:21] <Valmarko> server glx vendor string: SGI
[12:21] <Valmarko> client glx vendor string: SGI
[12:22] <Valmarko> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[12:22] <Valmarko> what does it mean?
[12:22] <Stormx2> Don't paste.
[12:22] <okan> Stormx2, that doesnt have my resoliton..
[12:22] <apokryphos> ended, arr well
[12:22] <Stormx2> okan: Then you may need to reconfigure X to add more resolutions.
[12:22] <apokryphos> okan: check what I linked to
[12:22] <BlueLaguna> okan: or change the monitor
[12:22] <BlueLaguna> settings
[12:23] <apokryphos> !pastebin | Valmarko
[12:23] <ubotu> Valmarko: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <xquestionx> hello, im having problems with a know bug in the installation process (at the partition creation/selection step). How can i install ubuntu manually... i mean, what are the contents of the cdrom that i must copy to the partition i will use
[12:23] <okan> ok thanx
[12:23] <okan> and
[12:23] <asparagui> `http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu/crash.log
[12:23] <okan> how am i suppose to exit console mode ? is it a command like init 3 in ubuntu ?
[12:23] <Valmarko> sorry
[12:23] <VGambit> how big is the update?
[12:23] <apokryphos> okan: please see the page that I linked to
[12:23] <Stormx2> okan: Console mode?
[12:23] <apokryphos> okan: your question is asked in here about 30 times a day :)
[12:23] <zambonie> AdamKili: are you trying to prove that one or the other is more inovative?
[12:24] <okan> apokryphos, i am reading that also..thank you
[12:24] <ITSa341>  Valmarko:  I made that same mistake 30 seconds into my first visit here last year
[12:24] <okan> apokryphos, well if i cant ask question in ubuntu channel, where am i gonna ask ??
[12:24] <apokryphos> okan: it has direct+easy instructions on what to do
[12:24] <okan> apokryphos, ok i'll read that also thanx a lot
[12:24] <Valmarko>  when I do glxinfo |grep vendo ,   I get:
[12:24] <AdamKili> zambonie: ya that would be good
[12:24] <apokryphos> okan: obviously you can, but does it seem unfair for us to help you if you don't want to help yourself?
[12:24] <xquestionx> well... ok
[12:24] <xquestionx> thanks any way
[12:25] <Valmarko> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[12:25] <apokryphos> okan: not that I consider "reading a link with direct instructions" to be a great case of helping yourself....
[12:25] <apokryphos> it's not like we've linked you to a man page
[12:25] <Valmarko> is it a problem?
[12:25] <okan> apokryphos, ok man i got your point. thank you
[12:25] <apokryphos> np
[12:25] <Valmarko> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[12:25] <Valmarko> is it a problem?
[12:26] <zambonie> AdamKili: that should prove pretty difficult. best you could probably do is speak to the origins of particular technologies.
[12:26] <apokryphos> !repeat | Valmarko
[12:26] <ubotu> Valmarko: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:26] <Isyth> hey everyone, I've got a problem concerning my mobile phone data cable...
[12:27] <Isyth> My computer doesn't recognise anything when I stick it in, I think it needs a program or something, but I don't really understand.
[12:27] <Stormx2> Isyth: Maybe it doesn't go for *that* sort of thing man
[12:27] <Stormx2> Isyth: No but really, what hardware?
[12:27] <ITSa341> Valmarko   give it a while, if someone has an answer they will answer, but they may be in the middle of helping someone else at the moment, just wait a while between asking. You will find help here but only so many helpers and tons of us wanting help
[12:28] <reinhold_> Hi all! is there any way to get a package of the 2.6.18 or 2.6.19 Kernel for Edgy?
[12:28] <nemish> I'm having an odd problem with RAID and Edgy
[12:28] <nemish> if I boot using /dev/md0 it just sort of hangs there
[12:29] <Isyth> Well I've got a samsung E720 and an accompanying data cable (direct phone to USB). When I still ran windows, I could get a steering program for that from the samsung website, but there's no such thing for linux.
[12:29] <nemish> if I boot a non raid disk it boots fine and /dev/md0 initializes correctly
[12:29] <Stormx2> Isyth: There may be. What sort of things do you want to do? Copy files over, or syncronise stuff?
[12:29] <nemish> root=/dev/md0 md=0,/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1
[12:29] <nemish> any ideas?
[12:30] <Isyth> Stormx2: I just want to get some pictures off the phone onto my computer
[12:30] <Valmarko> I understand.
[12:30] <Jeeva> How can i see how long my pppoe connection has been active ?
[12:32] <movi> ubuntu 6.10, trying to use the evdev driver for my mouse
[12:32] <movi> and i get
[12:32] <ITSa341>  Valmarko:  I have found answers or been pointed to the answers for almost every question I have asked here. Sometimes quickly, sometimes it takes a while.
[12:32] <Stormx2> Isyth: I ran a google on it. There may be software / kernel modules... I'm not sure. It took me a very long while to get my phone syncing.
[12:32] <movi> EE PreInit returned NULL for "Mouse0"
[12:32] <quappa> hello to all. people all over the net say that upstart in Edgy is on by default. how do I know if I run upstart? My startup times didn't change after upgrade.
[12:33] <Trini_Man> yeah i have a HTC tytn
[12:33] <movi> i am pointing correctly to the event device for my mouse
[12:33] <Trini_Man> how do i sync that ?
[12:33] <J4kch> How do I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without screwing it up? =P
[12:33] <Trini_Man> lol
[12:34] <nemish> J4kch, what are you worried about?
[12:34] <dewnut> hello
[12:34] <J4kch> nemish, losing all my files
[12:34] <nemish> change your sources.list and then run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:34] <nemish> should be fine
[12:35] <dewnut> can I ask general support questions in this channel?
[12:35] <nemish> i did the same thing when going from Breezy to Dapper w/o a hitch
[12:35] <Isyth> Stormx2, for bluetooth there seem to be some solutions...
[12:35] <M3G4crux> hi
[12:35] <J4kch> nemish, what do I change in sources.list?
[12:35] <Stormx2> Isyth: I saw that.
[12:35] <nemish> J4kch, change s/dapper/edgy/g
[12:35] <Trini_Man> how do i get my smartphone to mount in  Ubuntu
[12:36] <Stormx2> J4kch: He means change every instance of dapper to edgy, in case you don't speak powernerd :)
[12:36] <dewnut> I am getting the following error when trying to partition: ubuntu the ext3 file system creation in partion #1 of IDE1 Master failed
[12:36] <dewnut> anyone have any ideas?
[12:36] <J4kch> ah, alright
[12:36] <nemish> Stormx2, lol thanks sorry i forget sometimes
[12:36] <Sanne> J4kch: you may also want to look over this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[12:36] <AdamKili> zambonie: I want an example that says: "Linux did this first, and linux did it better!" An example that proprietary software users can relate to. Like here's a good one I just found on wikipedia: "Free software played a part in the development of the Internet, the World Wide Web" doesn't exactly say linux did this first and better, but I think I'll mention it anyway.
[12:37] <Stormx2> nemish: I just wanted to use the word powernerd. I love that word.
[12:37] <nemish> lol
[12:38] <nemish> so i've read posts that people with RAID in dapper had issues when upgrade to Edgy... but think was fixed... not 100% sure
[12:38] <J4kch> sanne: Thanks, that makes it much easier
[12:38] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Remember that its not just widgets and stuff. The first half decent C compilers were open source, and so forth. linux is just a kernel.
[12:38] <Sanne> J4kch: :)
[12:38] <nemish> but trying to make my sda a mirror i can't get it to boot.. starts splash but then can't find /dev/md0 to initialize
[12:39] <AdamKili> ya but not many people even have the slightest clue what a C compiler is...
[12:39] <nemish> but if it can't find /dev/md0 it has no chance of reading /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf so i'm kinda lost as to how to get around this?
[12:39] <Stormx2> AdamKili: What is the info for?
[12:39] <J4kch> What's a C compiler???
[12:39] <nemish> if i boot off disk in the mirror ie. root=/dev/sdb1 then i can't correctly initialize the mirror :(
[12:39] <Sanne> J4kch: a word of caution: back up your data! :)
[12:39] <J4kch> I don't have the slightest clue
[12:39] <dyzlex> Can someone help me dual boot Ubuntu 6.06 with Windows XP Pro x64 over PM please? I have Ubuntu installed on a primary 4gb partition, and I have an empty NTFS partition I want to install XP Pro on
[12:40] <nemish> any help would be really appreciated here
[12:40] <J4kch> sanne: You tell me NOW?
[12:40] <ITSa341> Stormx2  wasn't sendmail designed for *nix and most email based on it?
[12:40] <nuked_omen> a c compiler is a computer program that translates C code readable by humans to machine code (readable by the computer)
[12:40] <Stormx2> ITSa341: Yeah that sort of thing.
[12:40] <Sanne> J4kch: do I really *have* to tell you?
[12:40] <J4kch> I'd rather not have to backup anything
[12:40] <ITSa341> Stormx  lol  Only example I could think of quick  LOL
[12:41] <TLE> Hey guys, can you throw me a hint on how to downgrade a package with apt ?
[12:41] <nemish> J4kch, i wouldn't be doing this inside of X
[12:41] <nuked_omen> J4kch, i wish you lose your data
[12:41] <nemish> i would exit to shell and run from there
[12:41] <Sanne> J4kch: it is always a good idea to back up. You are responsible for your data. But you decide, of course :).
[12:41] <J4kch> Brb
[12:41] <Stormx2> what is J4kch doing then?
[12:41] <dyzlex> Can anyone help me? Please?
[12:41] <zambonie> AdamKili: there are 'things' that were done better proprietarily than os, and vice versa.  i just dont know how you are going to weigh them and come to a definitive verdict.
[12:42] <taeko> J4kch: do not listen to nemish, just run sudo "update-manager -c" under X
[12:42] <Stormx2> dyzlex: Install XP. Then recover grub.
[12:42] <AdamKili> I'm giving a 5 min presentation about linux, to people my age (~15), who don't know that much about computers
[12:42] <nuked_omen> zambonie, linux is about freedom of choice
[12:42] <dyzlex> Stormx2: Thanks
[12:42] <nemish> Stork, i just hope not inside gnome-terminal.. cause with how much changes that's gonna be messy
[12:42] <nemish> sorry that was meant for Stormx2
[12:43] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Oh man, don't be all cocky saying "linux did it first". Just show em what it can do. Show em how fast it is, showcase all the office stuff, then flip open UT (that'll turn some heads)
[12:43] <ITSa341> AdamKili  for ~15 age group just mention Myspace and YouTube and mp3's with NO spyware or virus and they will get a good idea they should check out linux
[12:43] <Stormx2> Yeah
[12:43] <Stormx2> never having to worry about computer being slow
[12:43] <Stormx2> or viruses
[12:43] <nuked_omen> yo, use some glx/compiz effects.. people will love it
[12:43] <nemish> taeko, you don't think with the gnome upgrades and stuff that it wouldn't get really "busted"
[12:43] <Stormx2> Yeah XGL
[12:43] <Stormx2> Spin that baby
[12:44] <J4kc1> Back
[12:44] <ITSa341> Cube effect and wobbly will win some votes
[12:44] <nuked_omen> xgl, right
[12:44] <ITSa341> Anyone got any advice on an EVDO ( cellular ) card for use in Ubuntu? I don't want to sign up for two years and buy a $100 card and find it won't work right.
[12:45] <ITSa341> Has anyone here even tried cellular internet access with an Ubuntu laptop?
[12:45] <holycow> its best to google that ITSa341 and check the wiki
[12:45] <Stormx2> Be careful to say how easy it is to install, and make sure you say Windows and ubuntu can co-exist.
[12:45] <holycow> its hard to remember specific device information
[12:45] <kingrayray> Lol.. Installing Ubuntu is so ridiculously simple that it's almost comical
[12:45] <nuked_omen> for ~15 year-old tell em they can hack anything with linux, they'll luv it
[12:45] <kingrayray> I love it :D
[12:46] <nemish> ITSa341, i've done PCMCIA aircard
[12:46] <Stormx2> kingrayray: Good to hear it :)
[12:46] <Hova> can some one show me a good site for installing xgl.sh
[12:46] <apokryphos> Hova: .sh?
[12:46] <AdamKili> whoa stem the flow of excellent ideas for a sec! Stormx: whats UT? nuked_omen: what are glx/compiz effects? (I, myself have only been using ubuntu for about a month now)
[12:46] <Stormx2> Aah this channel is so nice tonight. You get some complete dalnetters in here in the morning.
[12:46] <nuked_omen> installing ubuntu is a lot easier and faster than xp
[12:46] <ITSa341> holycow   I found some stuff but nothing like talking to someone who has used it and can tell me their personal opinion. I'm moving to a place 45 minutes to the nearest 7-11 or McDonalds so my options are dial-up, satellite, or cellular.
[12:46] <kingrayray> I'm installing Edgy on my G3 iMac right now :-)
[12:46] <J4kc1> It's night here
[12:46] <cmt^^> nuked_omen - unless you have an ati card
[12:46] <cmt^^> 8)
[12:46] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Unreal Tournament. Runs on linux fine... installers and everything
[12:46] <ITSa341> nemish  I'm using a broadcom at 54mbps now   :-)
[12:46] <Hova> xgl.sh
[12:46] <nuked_omen> AdamKili, you got a lot to learn
[12:47] <apokryphos> cmt^^: ATI cards should still of course work out of the box, they just won't have the accelerated drivers installed
[12:47] <Stormx2> AdamKili: You got a newish PC?
[12:47] <apokryphos> Hova: once again, xgl.sh? What are you talking about?
[12:47] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Or whatever your doing the presentation on?
[12:47] <holycow> ITSa341, i wish i could help on that specific one, i just don't have any info on it
[12:47] <nuked_omen> cmt^^, i agree, never used ati cards, but i hear they can be a pain in the butt
[12:47] <nemish> ITSa341, cool
[12:47] <cmt^^> apokryphos - they didn't for me
[12:47] <Hova> apokryphos:i want to install xgl
[12:47] <apokryphos> cmt^^: what happened?
[12:47] <Hova> or beryl
[12:47] <apokryphos> Hova: why did you say xgl.sh then?
[12:47] <cmt^^> had to manually alter xorg.conf to get it working, and being a total linux-newbie it wasn't that self-explanatory
[12:47] <apokryphos> !xgl | hova
[12:47] <ubotu> hova: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:48] <ITSa341> holycow   thqat's ok I am sure I am not the only one in here to be in this situation so I am sure sooner or later I will find someone who has tried it
[12:48] <Hova> apokryphos:i thout it was called that sorry
[12:48] <apokryphos> cmt^^: again, what happened? Blank screen?
[12:48] <nuked_omen> i suggest you don't show ubuntu to them if you don't feel confident using it then
[12:48] <AdamKili> Stomx2: linky? umm...~2 Ghrz laptop with a NVIDIA card, it ran Halo fine when I used to have windows
[12:48] <cmt^^> apokryphos - the installation froze just before starting X
[12:48] <cmt^^> or actually _when_ starting X
[12:48] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Oh it'll work then...  Could you ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[12:48] <mamonassassina> i try to do this:
[12:48] <holycow> damnit
[12:48] <mamonassassina> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[12:48] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Go have a youtube / google search for xgl. You'll be impressed You got any Unreal Tournament games?
[12:49] <mamonassassina> (in the howto there)
[12:49] <nemish> ITSa341, Sprint PCMCIA card wasn't that bad.. i still haven't gotten my Sprint Phone as Modem to work right... starts initialization over BT but then dies...
[12:49] <holycow> nforce is a terrible chipset to get if you want out of the box support
[12:49] <holycow> :/
[12:49] <holycow> *grrrr*
[12:49] <mamonassassina> but the problem doesn't magically vanish :P
[12:49] <ITSa341> nemish, do you remember what pcmcia card?
[12:49] <AdamKili> no i don't think i've ever played it
[12:49] <balder> hi   I got a question ,   how I can change the folder properties?   I try  to paste in a system folder but only :  denied  you don`t have permitions     help  please
[12:49] <Stormx2> AdamKili: Ah don't worry then ;-)
[12:49] <apokryphos> !permissions | balder
[12:49] <ubotu> balder: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:50] <nemish> ITSa341, its actually a Sierra Wireless 540 I believe...
[12:50] <nuked_omen> i hate all kinds of emulation
[12:50] <AdamKili> Ok but what about xgl/compiz effects or whatever?
[12:50] <conreyt> I'm trying to install kino however it says: "Depends: libraw1394-5  but it is not installable" I'm running edgy and I just upgraded.  Help?
[12:50] <ITSa341> nemish   stable?  reasonable speeds?
[12:50] <nemish> ITSa341, you realize you'll be spending like $40 a month on wireless card though right?... not suitable for your home network
[12:50] <nemish> 3G
[12:50] <nemish> EVDO
[12:50] <nemish> i like it
[12:50] <nemish> :-)
[12:50] <apokryphos> !enter
[12:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:50] <nemish> but i use it for train rides and stuff to the city
[12:50] <nuked_omen> AdamKili, xgl/compiz is eyecandy for the window manager
[12:51] <apokryphos> :)
[12:51] <balder> 4<apokryphos     thanks
[12:51] <ITSa341> nemish, where I am moving I have 3 options, pcmcia cell card, satellite or dial-up
[12:51] <J4kc1> Time to thrash my PC
[12:51] <ciaron> how do i flush the dns?
[12:51] <Stormx2> Man I have so much cwk to do and its already midnight.
[12:51] <nemish> ITSa341, i guess laptop is gonna be the only thing with internet access huh?
[12:51] <Stormx2> better get going.
[12:51] <kerwonz> what package include the kit for developers? g++, c++, etc...
[12:51] <Stormx2> kerwonz: "kit"?
[12:52] <ITSa341> nemish I have 12 laptops and very rarely use a desktop so yeah it'll have to work
[12:52] <kingrayray> kerwonz: try build-essential
[12:52] <J4kc1> OH SHI- It's gona die
[12:52] <J4kc1> I can feel its pain...
[12:52] <DanglyBits> can anyone help with an usb headset audio problem?
[12:52] <Stormx2> J4kc1: Language.
[12:52] <kerwonz> Stormx2: weathever... gcc, c++, etc....
[12:52] <kerwonz> okas
[12:52] <nuked_omen> i want to buy a laptop.. but them things always come with winderz.. so i have to pay for stuff i won't use
[12:52] <jose> existe algum brasileiro por aqui ?
[12:52] <J4kc1> Stormx2: I merely suggested it... *cough*
[12:52] <nemish> ITSa341, i just can't imagine only have 1 machine online at a time
[12:52] <nemish> :(
[12:53] <anurag_> anurag_,
[12:53] <watchme> Hello..
[12:53] <DARKGuy> !br
[12:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:53] <ITSa341> nemish, in theory I can use ICS and I will still have my wifi for filesharing
[12:53] <watchme> any one in here has a RT2500 WLAN-Chipset and can help my with encryption?
[12:53] <nemish> ITSa341, idk thats seems like a bummer to me
[12:53] <zambonie> or an evdo router.
[12:54] <J4kc1> How many of you guys know what an Eft is?
[12:54] <AdamKili> nuked_omen: ahh...here we are...the xserver-xgl package...
[12:54] <DARKGuy> Eee Eff Tee!
[12:54] <ITSa341> nemish, it is a fast growing area so within a year or so I will have Prime property right by Crystal Mountain ski and golf resort.  It'll be worth the inconvenience for a couple years
[12:55] <meshyf> !SMB
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SMB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <J4kc1> How many of you guys want to bet the next version will be Fiery Fox?
[12:55] <AdamKili> lol
[12:55] <J4kc1> DARKguy: Eft is a Newt
[12:55] <zambonie> ITSa341: might want to look into evdo routers. ive put in a few.  they work well.
[12:55] <Stormx2> Perky Penguin ftw :)
[12:55] <jose> sorry
[12:55] <J4kc1> Lol
[12:55] <DARKGuy> J4kc1: ah, k o.o;
[12:55] <DARKGuy> xD
[12:55] <kerwonz> Stormx2: thanks ;) did you know some software for kde to build source.. etc?
[12:55] <nemish> !samba
[12:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:55] <J4kc1> What year will Perky Penguin come out?
[12:55] <DARKGuy> 2008 :O
[12:56] <ITSa341> zambonie  are they reasonably priced?
[12:56] <Stormx2> kerwonz: gcc?
[12:56] <J4kc1> Too long
[12:56] <zambonie> similar to others, sub $200-$300.
[12:56] <Stormx2> kerwonz: I'm not sure, i don't program in languages which need compilers ;-)
[12:56] <kingrayray> is there a channel specifially for ubuntu on ppc?
[12:56] <kerwonz> :o
[12:56] <kerwonz> haha
[12:56] <kerwonz> okas
[12:56] <Jeeva> how do i search for a package in apt-get ?
[12:56] <kerwonz> thanks
[12:56] <kerwonz> Jeeva:  apt-cache search package
[12:56] <Stormx2> Jeeva: apt-cache search package
[12:56] <ITSa341> ok  will look into it
[12:57] <Jeeva> tar
[12:57] <DanglyBits> can anyone help with an usb headset audio problem?
[12:57] <Jeeva> trying to install ircd-hybrid
[12:57] <zambonie> ive used this one.  http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1038286&cm_ven=RKG&cm_cat=adwords&cm_pla=sku&cm_ite=kyocera_kr1
[12:57] <Jeeva> but apt-get install ircd-hybrid , no go
[12:57] <J4kc1> Honestly, I can't wait for Horny Hamster
[12:58] <DARKGuy> Is there a good bittorrent client that can accept resuming? Azureus just crashes if I start it up after an X crash, so i plainly lose my downloaded bits. bittornado in curses interface doesn't resume my downloads, anybody know of one that can resume downloads and have a download cap that I can set up?
[12:58] <AdamKili> nuked_omen: how do i set xgl up?
[12:58] <kingrayray> DARKGuy: look into rtorrent
[12:58] <kingrayray> i like it
[12:58] <finalbeta> !paste
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <DARKGuy> kingrayray: ah, I'll search info for it, thanks for givin' a name :)
[12:58] <nemish> ITSa341, there are evdo routers like zambonie said before
[12:58] <kingrayray> DARKGuy: make sure to read the manpage for it, it's CLI based
[12:58] <nemish> give it a whirl
[12:59] <DARKGuy> kingrayray: okay, thanks for the advice :)
[12:59] <ITSa341> nemish   looking at one now  :-)
[12:59] <conreyt> nuked_omen: system76.com
[12:59] <J4kc1> Ugh, it's gonna take two hours for Edgy Eft to kill the Dapper Drake and eat its head...
[12:59] <AdamKili> how do i set up xgl?
[01:00] <DARKGuy> !xgl
[01:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:00] <thomas> how do i change the default browser?
[01:00] <ITSa341> I figure it costs the same as satellite per month and I can carry my laptop with me on the road and connect with EVDO
[01:00] <AdamKili> DARKGuy: thank you
[01:01] <ITSa341> Oh, and EVDO is cheaper to buy the equipment than satellite EVDO $125 to start, Satellite $400 to start
[01:01] <NineTeen67Comet> Whellow all .. Little NFS "Q" .. On the server I have /etc/exports as /media/shared <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync,no_root_squash) and on the client /etc/fstab I have <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/shared /media/shared-server nfs defaults 0 0 .. but it still isn't letting my write to it .. help?
[01:02] <Jeeva> ubuntu is opensource, but it uses vBulletin for forums
[01:02] <Jeeva> lol
[01:02] <DARKGuy> AdamKili: welcome
[01:03] <ITSa341> nemish, zambonie     thanks for the info
[01:03] <DevC> ok I'm having an issue....I click the link in my college stuff to do my online homework...when I do (they are using the Citrix ICA Client) I get 'You have not chosen to trust "/C=US/ST=/L=/O=/Equifax/OU=Equifax Secure Certificate Authority/Cn=", the issuer of the server's certificate.' any idea how to fix this?
[01:03] <lonran> i am using ubuntu dapper and i want to update evolution to it last version, can i do it with synaptic?
[01:04] <DevC> figured there might be a Ubuntu think I could to in order to fix it
[01:04] <J4kc1> lonran: Wait for me to finish, then I'll tell you if you should
[01:04] <J4kc1> lonran: I wouldn't want you to lose all your files...
[01:04] <DevC> Ubuntu thing*
[01:04] <lonran> J4kc1, are u doing it right now?
[01:05] <J4kc1> loran, Yes
[01:05] <NineTeen67Comet> Is Ubuntu-server for "ubuntu-server" support? or is it for the dev guys?
[01:05] <J4kc1> !upgrade
[01:05] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:05] <Jeeva> apt-get install ircd-hybrid doesn't work, what must i do !
[01:06] <Byan> what bootloader does ubuntu use?
[01:06] <ITSa341> night everyone
[01:06] <lonran> J4kc1, ok, now u tell me how uve done it=
[01:06] <NineTeen67Comet> Byan: grub ..
[01:06] <J4kc1> Night
[01:06] <DevC> Byan: grub
[01:06] <J4kc1> loran, go to the site ubotu tells you
[01:06] <J4kc1> !upgrade | lonran
[01:06] <ubotu> lonran: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:06] <J4kc1> lonran, Then chose the version you have and want to upgrade to. The rest is pretty straight forward
[01:07] <x-r00t-x> hi guys . i cant login to irc server when firestarter is runing . help me
[01:07] <J4kc1> Can anyone tell me why anyone would chose 6.06 over 6.10?
[01:07] <kingrayray> LTS
[01:07] <J4kc1> Oh
[01:07] <Byan> J4kc1: stability
[01:07] <J4kc1> Double Oh
[01:08] <x-r00t-x> J4kc1, edgy :P
[01:08] <x-r00t-x> J4kc1, 6.10
[01:08] <TheDebugger> edgy is stable...
[01:08] <TheDebugger> But doesn't have Long Term Support
[01:08] <NineTeen67Comet> J4kc1: yep, pretty much 6.06 is using the stable stuff (not that 6.10 has been buggy for me) .. I use 6.06 server on my server, and 6.10 on my workstation .. (I use AIXGL/Nvidia/Beryl) ..
[01:08] <J4kc1> Hmmm
[01:09] <Jeeva> its 2 AM and so damn warm !
[01:09] <J4kc1> LTS over lots of small term supports...
[01:09] <J4kc1> If you keep on upgrading there shouldn't be a problem
[01:09] <Crescendo> My number lock key doesn't work.  Pressing the number keys works, but the period doesn't.  What can I do to fix this?
[01:09] <NineTeen67Comet> Jeeva: grin .. it's yet to dip below 75* during the day here this year .. lol ..
[01:10] <user123> my problem with 6.10: wireless! i've a chipset broadcom the pcmcia is on but not connection what's the problem?
[01:10] <cyris> instead of downloading all the packages for xubuntu-desktop, can i just use the cd to install ?
[01:10] <J4kc1> cyris: if you have a xubuntu CD
[01:11] <NineTeen67Comet> cyris: yes .. Um .. can't remember how to do it .. think it's .. sudo apt-cdrom add .. and it'll add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list ..
[01:11] <cyris> j4kc1:i happen to do
[01:11] <bimberi> cyris: xubuntu alternate cd
[01:11] <NineTeen67Comet> cyris: then you can go in and # out all entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list so the only one left is the cd entry ..
[01:11] <Jeeva> NineTeen67Comet: me = south africa :P
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Jeeva: Me = Okinawa Japan .. we're a few miles apart .. lol
[01:12] <x-r00t-x> hi guys . i cant login to irc server when firestarter is runing . help me?
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Jeeva: my neighbor here is from South Africa (accent and all) ..  Afrikaans (he yells at his kids in Afrikaans .. lol) ..
[01:15] <J4kc1> Jeeva: Do you speak afrikaans?
[01:15] <Jeeva> yes, i'm afrikaans boer
[01:15] <Jeeva> NineTeen67Comet: tell him "respect"
[01:15] <Jeeva> :P
[01:15] <J4kc1> Jeeva: What does "ick is di besta" mean?
[01:15] <J4kc1> Or something like that
[01:15] <Jeeva> thats not afrikaans
[01:15] <meshyf> Anyone know how i can acess my windows SMB using ubuntu?
[01:15] <Jeeva> thats german
[01:15] <Jeeva> or something
[01:15] <DARKGuy> xD
[01:15] <Jeeva> bbut i understand it
[01:15] <Jeeva> its "i am the best"
[01:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Jeeva: Will do .. he's serving in Iraq right now . he's a Jar Head ( I mean US Marine ) . ;)
[01:15] <J4kc1> Ah, alright
[01:15] <meshyf> !Windows SMB
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Windows SMB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <meshyf> !Network share
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Network share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Jeeva> tell him to come back to South Africa, so that the whites can rise again :)
[01:16] <Jeeva> revolt is the future
[01:16] <Jeeva> ;P
[01:16] <NineTeen67Comet> !NFS
[01:16] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:16] <LjL> !msg the bot | meshyf
[01:16] <ubotu> meshyf: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:16] <NineTeen67Comet> !samba
[01:16] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:16] <Jeeva> DARKGuy: used to be TNFS until EA GAMES changed it to NFS :/
[01:16] <meshyf> Thanks guys.
[01:16] <J4kc1> I thought Samba was a dance
[01:16] <Some_Person> Ubuntu is great
[01:16] <Jeeva> aaha
[01:16] <DARKGuy> Jeeva: Yeah =/ maybe they didn't like the "The" in it :p
[01:16] <Jeeva> Mark Shuttleworth is a wussy
[01:16] <NineTeen67Comet> DARKGuy: grin .. it is fast compared to smbfs .. lol .. friggin samba junk .. if my wife would just get rid of her XP lappy I'd be set ..
[01:16] <J4kc1> See how wrong we are DARKGuy?
[01:16] <Some_Person> I like how its easy to use
[01:16] <Jeeva> Mark Shuttleworth is a wussy, he made his billions then skiped the country
[01:17] <x-r00t-x> !bot
[01:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:17] <Some_Person> It comes with everything you need to start off
[01:17] <LjL> !offtopic | Jeeva
[01:17] <ubotu> Jeeva: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:17] <DARKGuy> NineTeen67Comet: that's hard, overall if shes a gamer (my mom is -_-)
[01:17] <manu__> ehi
[01:17] <Some_Person> No tough crap to get it working
[01:17] <manu__> I have a big problem with gnome-panel
[01:17] <J4kc1> Not EVERYTHING
[01:17] <manu__> it continuosly crashes
[01:17] <Jeeva> so i'm allowed to speak afrikaans here, since its ubuntu ?
[01:17] <AdamKili> ok i installed compiz-core, compiz-gnome, and compiz-plugin packages. now how does installing a compiz theme work?
[01:17] <Jeeva> mark shuttleworth = afrikaans
[01:17] <J4kc1> Jeeva: No
[01:17] <LjL> Jeeva: no, this channel is english only.
[01:17] <manu__> someone can help me ?
[01:18] <NineTeen67Comet> DARKGuy: naw, she's just an internetter .. e-mail, web, and the BIGGIE .. Skype with the linksys usb phone .. (that is NOT supported in Linux) ..
[01:18] <Some_Person> And I like Rhythmbox, a nice clone of iTunes
[01:18] <DARKGuy> awkward! o.o
[01:18] <DARKGuy> NineTeen67Comet: dangit :(
[01:18] <NineTeen67Comet> DARKGuy: I've got her using everything that's availible in Linux though .. OOo, Gaim, Skype and of course Firefox and Thunderbird .. so WHEN she wises up she'll do fine ..
[01:19] <Madpilot> Jeeva, try #ubuntu-za for Afrikaans
[01:19] <J4kc1> Some_person: iTunes looks much sleeker imho
[01:19] <DARKGuy> NineTeen67Comet: Ah yay! that's good, goooooood I say :)
[01:19] <manu__> SOMEONE CAN HELP ME WITH GNOME-PANEL CRASHES?
[01:19] <LjL> !caps
[01:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:19] <DARKGuy> !caps
[01:19] <Some_Person> !caps
[01:19] <J4kc1> I can't read lowercase =(
[01:20] <manu__> or is there a place where I can submit bugs ?
[01:20] <LjL> !bugs
[01:20] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:20] <x-r00t-x> LjL, do u use firestarter ?
[01:20] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: What's OOo?
[01:20] <LjL> x-r00t-x: no
[01:20] <NineTeen67Comet> DARKGuy: I really made her family pay this year (I live 8000 miles from home) so when I was home I did NOT bring an XP disk so when they said .. Can you fix my computer .. I said .. uh huh .. and WHOMP they are all Edgy Eft boxes running AIXGL/Beryl and loving life .. sept they were a little shocked that I kept all their files .. lol
[01:20] <Some_Person> now that i have dsl, ubuntu is perfect
[01:20] <NineTeen67Comet> OpenOffice.org ..
[01:20] <x-r00t-x> ok
[01:20] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: Ah, right
[01:21] <manu__> nineteen67
[01:21] <manu__> what nvidia driver version
[01:21] <manu__> u use ?
[01:21] <Some_Person> my conexant dialup modem driver costed $20, which i wouldnt pay, so i couldnt really use it because it was capped at 14kbps
[01:21] <DARKGuy> NineTeen67Comet: Oh wow o_o niiice XD I can imagine the shock ("Omg! the desktop rotaaates :O")
[01:21] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: What's AIXGL/Beryl ?
[01:21] <DARKGuy> !beryl
[01:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:21] <x-r00t-x> lol Some_Person
[01:22] <NineTeen67Comet> manu__: they all either have the beta, or ATI's open source (my dad and step dad's cards were ATI 9200) ..
[01:22] <Some_Person> but now i have edgy, and dsl, and its perfect
[01:22] <x-r00t-x> J4kc1,  beryl
[01:22] <J4kc1> I got beryl
[01:22] <wylde> what is a good, simple video editing software for Linux?
[01:22] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ok
[01:22] <wylde> and free
[01:22] <J4kc1> What's loving life and AIXGL?
[01:22] <DARKGuy> -.-
[01:22] <x-r00t-x> Wyld,  all linux software is free :P
[01:22] <cyber_brain_mfkg> one stupid question!!! how to remove non-empty dir using terminal???
[01:23] <DARKGuy> cyber_brain_mfkg: rm directory -r
[01:23] <LjL> x-r00t-x: no
[01:23] <niekie> x-r00t-x, nope =\
[01:23] <Some_Person> Ubuntu > Windows
[01:23] <NineTeen67Comet> DARKGuy: grin .. they ca-rapped .. I made a powerpoint slide show for them and made the icon HUGE on their desktop .. I made it PDF full screen so they had no choice but to read the basics of Linux before they got too far .. They weren't happy for the first day, then they were like .. Oh man, this is so much faster, and I didn't know Linux had Lime Wire .. and it plays all my movies, DVD's and look at that! My windows wobble ..
[01:23] <w3ccv> cyber_brain_mfkg, rm -rf <dirname>
[01:23] <J4kc1> x-r00t-x, I feel like picking on you: Nope
[01:23] <x-r00t-x> Some_Person,  you mean to say ubuntu costly more than windows
[01:23] <niekie> x-r00t-x, in both meanings of the word free, not all Linux software is free. ;)
[01:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Wyld: lives
[01:24] <x-r00t-x> maybe i am not sure :D
[01:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Wyld: LiVES ( http://lives.sourceforge.net/ )
[01:24] <Wyld> ohhh
[01:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> w3ccv: thanx
[01:24] <Some_Person> i like ubuntu because it uses little memory when running
[01:24] <NineTeen67Comet> Hopefully they'll all be happy campers now .. I also pointed them to crossover office so they can if they have to install some MS stuff (I recently found out that not all Math stuff translates back to MS Word) ..
[01:24] <Wyld> thanks
[01:24] <Crazysam> hello everyone, i have a question
[01:25] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: Someone told me what beryl is, what about the other stuff?
[01:25] <Some_Person> windows (especially vista, which i have) uses a lot of memory
[01:25] <ubun> how can i check how much ram is being used currently?
[01:25] <w3ccv> Crazysam, we cna't answer if you dont ask it
[01:25] <DARKGuy> NineTeen67Comet: Ahahaha *grin* awesome xD yeah... some people don t like to read, overall when they're already used to do stuff in Windoze (I haven't even read a Linux book except Linux Programming Fundaments (I dunno, it's in Spanish)) but I'm progressing nicely, then again good to know thye moved :) (weird about that crossover math word oO)
[01:25] <bimberi> ubun: 'free' in a terminal
[01:25] <Crazysam> can i change the resolution to higher than 1280:1040?
[01:25] <LjL> ubun: not as easy to answer as one would expect. try "free", but interpreting the numbers can be sort of tricky
[01:25] <ubun> there's no gnome app to do it?
[01:26] <LjL> ubun: gnome-system-monitor, most likely, or whatever it's called
[01:26] <x-r00t-x> hi guys . i cant login to anything when firestarter is runing . help me?
[01:26] <NineTeen67Comet> J4kc1: AIXGL is built into the new xorg .. if you go 6.06 you'll have to use XGL on top of xorg .. no biggie but AIXGL works a little better on slower machines .. beryl is also the new compiz .. compiz and beryl are very similar in performance and all this stuff is seriously Alpha right now .. always changing and breaks on occasion ..
[01:26] <bimberi> ubun: system -> admin -> system monitor
[01:26] <kitche> x-r00t-x: do you mean when you have the gui up?
[01:26] <ubun> thanks
[01:26] <x-r00t-x> kitche,  yes
[01:26] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: Sounds great!
[01:26] <NineTeen67Comet> J4kc1: if you have questions you can also peek in #ubuntu-xgl .. that's the channel for this stuff ..
[01:26] <NineTeen67Comet> They are usually helpful in there too ..
[01:27] <J4kc1> usually...
[01:27] <Crazysam> can i change the resolution to higher than 1280:1040?
[01:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Crazysam about fixres | Crazysam, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:27] <ubun> wow, ubuntu + xchat + terminal + gaim + firefox with 3 tabs open is only using 137mb
[01:27] <x-r00t-x> kitche,  can you help me ?
[01:27] <NineTeen67Comet> J4kc1: you can go here for some install info on aixgl/beryl stuff .. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[01:27] <ubun> firefox alone in windows takes that much ram :/
[01:28] <kitche> x-r00t-x: well it shouldn't effect any of your logins unless you saved your iptables config
[01:28] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: Need to finish upgrading to Edgy first
[01:28] <nikosapi> hello, im using a recent nvidia card and the refresh rate is stuck at 50Hz and it really hurts my eyes, what must I add to my xorg.conf to fix this?
[01:29] <wylde> should i use gz or bz2 when downloading tars?
[01:29] <anurag_> bz2
[01:29] <NineTeen67Comet> cyber_brain_mfkg: Is LiVES similar to Cinnelerra ? .. I could never figure that out ..
[01:29] <kitche> wylde: doesn't matter
[01:29] <wylde> ok
[01:29] <wylde> thanks
[01:29] <nikosapi> wylde: what ever you like bz2 compresses better
[01:29] <NineTeen67Comet> J4kc1: there is also a site like that one that is for Dapper ..
[01:29] <NineTeen67Comet> J4kc1: Dapper just doesn't have the AIXGL stuff build in ..
[01:30] <whatspy> hi, any suggestion for a good text-based alternative to msn-messenger? if any, I'd like one that offers a distinct 'session' for each conversation...
[01:30] <cyber_brain_mfkg> NineTeen67Comet:  newer tried Cinnelerra
[01:30] <whatspy> the equivalent of the msn windows, I mean
[01:30] <wylde> nikoapi: you mean smaller, or sith less errors?
[01:30] <AdamKili> help! how do i fix this error message with compiz: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:30] <J4kc1> nineteen67comet: Aight
[01:30] <kitche> whatspy: only text-based one that I know of is tmsnc which isn't being developed anymore
[01:30] <NineTeen67Comet> respect ..
[01:30] <x-r00t-x> kitche, i cant login without gui :( maybe problem on iptables
[01:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> NineTeen67Comet: only i know is that there are 2 versions(2 diferent teamz of devoleperz)
[01:31] <wylde> nikoxpi: you mean smaller, or with less errors?
[01:31] <kitche> x-r00t-x: no that's probably due to a pam issue
[01:31] <wylde> nikospi: you mean smaller, or with less errors?
[01:31] <wylde> wow
[01:31] <wylde> i cna't spel
[01:31] <kitche> AdamKili: that's more of a warning you using the open source ati?
[01:31] <nikosapi> wylde: I've never had any problems with gz or bz2 but bz2 compresses files much smaller
[01:31] <x-r00t-x> kitche, how do i fix it?
[01:31] <J4kc1> Wylde: Lawl
[01:31] <LjL> whatspy, kitche: centericq supports MSN as well
[01:31] <wylde> nikospi: thanks
[01:32] <ChrisBradley> hello
[01:32] <NineTeen67Comet> cyber_brain_mfkg: aha .. Think I'll look into it still .. I've been looking for a video editor to put some of my family movies together .. (iMovies style NOT MS Movie Maker style .. )
[01:32] <ubun> what's the fullpath name to my desktop (so i can save files to it)?
[01:32] <kitche> x-r00t-x: I don't know very much about pam
[01:32] <whatspy> LjL: centericq... okay...
[01:32] <whatspy> we shall see ;)
[01:32] <ChrisBradley> /home/user/Desktop
[01:32] <ubun> thanks ShrisBradley
[01:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> NineTeen67Comet: u can also try kino
[01:32] <ubun> *chris
[01:32] <g0tw00d> is there a way to list what harddrives are loaded and cdroms???
[01:32] <Wyld> would most ubuntu 6.06 machines have the basic requirements listed on this page, about one page down? http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=downloads
[01:32] <ChrisBradley> no problem ubun
[01:32] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  can you help me with firewall?
[01:33] <NineTeen67Comet> cyber_brain_mfkg: saw that .. think I will thanks ..
[01:33] <BlueLaguna> is there a nologin shell under Ubuntu?
[01:33] <BlueLaguna> I assume there is...
[01:33] <LjL> x-r00t-x: i told you, i don't use firestarter, nor plan to install it since it's a Gnome app
[01:33] <BlueLaguna> or just something similar
[01:33] <AdamKili> kitche: i don't know. how do i tell? I just barely installed compiz, did compiz --replace in the terminal, then did compiz <compiz  theme file> --replace, and it gave that error message and the bar at the top of my windows dissappeared.
[01:33] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  its problem with iptables
[01:33] <w3ccv> g0tw00d, df shows mounts and spaces, mount shows mount data
[01:33] <J4kc1> Oh god, I forgot if I have nVidia or ATI
[01:33] <NineTeen67Comet> off to feed the offspring .. take care all .. thanks for you'all's help ..
[01:33] <g0tw00d> w3ccv: do that at terminal?
[01:34] <kitche> boojit: AdamKili see what driver your using by look at your xorg.conf it's in /etc/X11
[01:34] <anurag_> AdamKili, which video card?
[01:34] <LjL> x-r00t-x: actually kitche said it's more likely a problem with pam, didn't he?
[01:35] <g0tw00d> w3ccv: nm
[01:35] <x-r00t-x> yes LjL  but what is pam?
[01:35] <g0tw00d> w3ccv: tyvm
[01:35] <w3ccv> g0tw00d, yes
[01:35] <J4kc1> How do I check my hardware?
[01:35] <AdamKili> 1 sec..
[01:35] <LjL> x-r00t-x: like i knew. the acronym means pluggable authentication module i think
[01:35] <ChrisBradley> btw - I'm impressed with the Xsane - it works well with my F300 scanner
[01:36] <x-r00t-x> hmm
[01:36] <EdLin> !pam
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <ChrisBradley> I think I mentioned that last night
[01:36] <x-r00t-x> :'(
[01:36] <J4kc1> Don't cry
[01:36] <J4kc1> Google it =)
[01:37] <cmt^^> anyone here uses gmplayer?
[01:37] <wylde> !anyone
[01:37] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:37] <w3ccv> cmt^^, yes on FC4
[01:37] <J4kc1> I use normal mplayer
[01:38] <cmt^^> on startup, it says "Cannot load bitmap font: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
[01:38] <kitche> J4kc1: gmplayer is normal mplayer just means graphical mplayer which is normal
[01:38] <cmt^^> I put all the fonts there, but how do I build font.desc?
[01:38] <J4kc1> kitche: Ohhh! The more you know...
[01:38] <w3ccv> cmt^^, dono the problem, l think you're missing a font.  everyghing works here
[01:38] <cmt^^> w3ccv - you have a font.desc though, right?
[01:39] <Wyld> what is this "make" command?
[01:39] <anurag_> J4kc1, which video card you have
[01:39] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  i removed firestarter now i can do anything :D
[01:39] <cmt^^> the installation via synaptic missed the fonts and the skins, had to install them manually
[01:39] <cmt^^> the player is working, but the errormessage is annoying
[01:39] <J4kc1> anurag: GeForce FX 5200
[01:39] <J4kc1> anurag: It's nvidia
[01:39] <Pacifist> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it got stuck saying: "Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled fpr 5 minutes" and similar lines to that (with the number chaning), how do I fix?
[01:40] <EdLin> Wyld: apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <anurag_> J4kc1, lol okay
[01:40] <Wyld> EdLin: what does it do?
[01:40] <x-r00t-x> J4kc1, i have it before :P
[01:40] <J4kc1> anurag_: Forgot your underscore -_-
[01:40] <EdLin> Wyld: compile programs that use a Makefile to speed up or configure compilation
[01:40] <anurag_> J4kc1, i use AiXGL on two monitors
[01:40] <AdamKili> kitche, anurag_: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device?
[01:41] <J4kc1> anurag_: I don't even know what AiXGL
[01:41] <EdLin> Wyld: considering that including the universe repository there are over 15,000 packages in Ubuntu you shouldn't need make to compile much.
[01:41] <J4kc1> anurag_: I intend to find out once I finish Edgy upgrade though
[01:41] <kitche> AdamKili: but what does the driver part say
[01:41] <anurag_> J4kc1, uprade from ?
[01:41] <anurag_> J4kc1, dapper -> edgy ?
[01:41] <w3ccv> cmt^^, sri for the delay phone call. gmplayer works here without any messages, so I've never had the need to fix it.
[01:41] <cmt^^> kitche - you seem to know your way around, any ideas that would solve my 'font.desc'-problem?
[01:41] <Jeeva> how do i use windows again in shell
[01:41] <J4kc1> anurag_: 6.06 to 6.10, yes
[01:42] <AdamKili> kitche: i810
[01:42] <cmt^^> w3ccv - do you or don't you have a font.desc in the font-dir?
[01:42] <cmt^^> :)
[01:42] <anurag_> J4kc1, haha suffer ;-)
[01:42] <J4kc1> anurag_: Why do you say that?
[01:42] <Wyld> EdLin: so 'make' turns the code into something that ubuntu can use?
[01:42] <kitche> AdamKili: you using xgl?
[01:42] <ubun> when will firefox2.0 be in the repositories?
[01:42] <w3ccv> cmt^^, locate doesn't  even show it on the sytem
[01:42] <anurag_> J4kc1, i heard there was an problem with upgrading from dapper to edgy
[01:42] <EdLin> Wyld: it can
[01:43] <anurag_> J4kc1, :P
[01:43] <J4kc1> anurag_: Oh, probably the whole xerver-xorg thing
[01:43] <EdLin> Wyld: it's prefered to use apt-get or similar graphical tools like synaptic whenever possible
[01:43] <J4kc1> anurag_: I went to a website and they spoke of multiple problems and how to fix them
[01:43] <AdamKili> kitche: umm...i installed xserver-xgl package. Do i need to set it up?
[01:43] <kitche> AdamKili: i810 driver can't use XGL
[01:43] <Wyld> EdLin: I'm installing a video editing software, so it's not in the repositories,
[01:44] <J4kc1> anurag_: It wouldn't be very nice if I lost my 20GB of anime though...
[01:44] <Wyld> EdLin: i think
[01:44] <devnull_> hello .. i am trying to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 and it keeps complaining about disk space issues on /var/cache/apt/archives   when it is completely empty and i have more than enough freespace
[01:44] <AdamKili> kitche: so do i uninstall it? will the effects still work?
[01:44] <EdLin> Wyld: you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[01:44] <AdamKili> kitche: xgl i mean
[01:44] <EdLin> Wyld: it may also be in third-party repositories
[01:44] <Wyld> EdLin: never heard of them
[01:44] <EdLin> Wyld: then you don't have most of the programs available.
[01:44] <ubun> everything you can get with apt-get yo can get with synaptic by default right?
[01:45] <J4kc1> GUYS GUYS, should I stop the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy or continue???
[01:45] <EdLin> !repositories
[01:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:45] <J4kc1> Is it worth the risk?
[01:45] <devnull_> i would like to switch to edgy
[01:45] <ubun> does edgy have firefox 2?
[01:45] <anurag_> J4kc1, did i scared you :P
[01:45] <devnull_> ubun i believe so
[01:45] <J4kc1> anurag_: yes, you did =P
[01:45] <EdLin> ubun: yes
[01:46] <devnull_> that is one of my reasons for wanting to upgrade
[01:46] <J4kc1> anurag_: I am very touchy about my data, I have LOADS of important stuff that took me ages to get/do
[01:46] <AdamKili> kitche: so should i uninstall xserver-xgl? or how do i get it working?
[01:46] <EdLin> J4kc1: back up your data files before upgrading
[01:46] <EdLin> !upgrading
[01:46] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:46] <ubun> back up to dvd and/or external usb drive
[01:46] <J4kc1> EdLin: Everybody tells me that
[01:47] <ubun> i backup to my ipod shuffle but i dont have much to backup
[01:47] <EdLin> J4kc1: because it's true ;-)
[01:47] <J4kc1> EdLin: I can't backup 20GBs of information...
[01:47] <anurag_> J4kc1, :P
[01:47] <ubun> 20gb isnt that much
[01:47] <ubun> 5 DVDs :)
[01:47] <EdLin> J4kc1: then you've got to ask yourself, do you feel lucky. ;-)
[01:47] <devnull_> upgrade is asking for 180mb of free disk space and i have gigs ... why should this be failing for lack of disk space ?
[01:47] <J4kc1> Have there been any problems related to data loss?
[01:47] <J4kc1> I feel lucky, punk =P
[01:48] <ubun> or practice buddhist idea of non-attachment and let go of your porn/movies, having old stuff you've already seen just prevents you from seeing new stuff anyway, quit living in the past man!
[01:48] <anurag_> J4kc1, not till now, i guess it might
[01:48] <cmt^^> hmmm
[01:48] <J4kc1> anurag_: That's good news
[01:49] <ubun> my friend just daisy chains another harddrive and keeps all his important data on that so he can reinstall o/s's with out worrying
[01:49] <lonran> i am using ubuntu dapper and i want to update evolution to its last version, how can i do it?
[01:49] <ubun> cheaper than an external harddrive
[01:49] <J4kc1> anurag_: I always manage to screw up computers though, I screwed my Suse so I installed Ubuntu then I had to reinstall that
[01:49] <cmt^^> I changed the gui.conf to search for fonts in ~/.mplayer/font/ but the program still wanted to look for it in the /usr/share/mplayer/font-directory
[01:49] <cmt^^> how come?
[01:49] <J4kc1> !upgrade | lonran
[01:49] <ubotu> lonran: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:49] <regino> nadia habla espaol?
[01:50] <lonran> regino, yo
[01:50] <cmt^^> !es
[01:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:50] <J4kc1> regino, go to #ubuntu-es
[01:50] <regino> hola como estas?
[01:50] <devnull_> anurag me too
[01:50] <J4kc1> you guys are doing it too?
[01:50] <J4kc1> awesome
[01:50] <regino> thank j4kcl
[01:50] <jrib> !upgrade | anurag_, devnull_
[01:50] <ubotu> anurag_, devnull_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:50] <J4kc1> at least, I won't die alone
[01:50] <devnull_> i would like to but the upgrade dies
[01:51] <ubun> if your files are that important they should be backed up whether or not you plan on reinstalling, anything could happen, a broken harddrive, a script kiddie, a fire, the government..
[01:51] <lonran> ubotu, but i dont want to upgrade all the system, just evolution
[01:51] <cmt^^> any ideas?
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about but i dont want to upgrade all the system, just evolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Wyld> EdLin: so how do i enable these universes you speek of?
[01:51] <anurag_> devnull_, J4kc1 have fun ;)
[01:51] <J4kc1> cmt^^: Reinstall ubuntu =P
[01:51] <cmt^^> J4kc1 - bah
[01:51] <devnull_> i read the upgrade instructions like 10 times
[01:51] <Wyld> !bot
[01:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:51] <devnull_> just trying to find out why it is dying
[01:52] <J4kc1> devnull_: Reinstall ubuntu too =P
[01:52] <devnull_> ?
[01:52] <J4kc1> That's my solution to everything to be honest...
[01:52] <anurag_> lol
[01:52] <devnull_> yea ... sounds like a windows solution
[01:52] <ubun> how come opera isn't in my synaptic?
[01:53] <devnull_> ubun idk ... i just download the deb from their site
[01:53] <J4kc1> jeruvy is mad
[01:53] <LjL> ubun: because it's a non-free program and as such cannot be put in the standard repositories
[01:53] <Jeruvy> J4kc1: is full of it
[01:53] <J4kc1> It's not free!?
[01:53] <J4kc1> I always used Opera for free...
[01:53] <ubun> i know opera makes money but i thought they were free
[01:53] <J4kc1> Unless, you mean the other free
[01:53] <AdamKili> help! I still can't get compiz working: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:53] <darksmiley> hey all, i just have a quick question =)
[01:54] <LjL> J4kc1: it's not free software, no
[01:54] <J4kc1> The two frees confuse me
[01:54] <anurag_> ubun, sudo apt-get install opera
[01:54] <ubun> guess ill try konquerer, since i've heard great things
[01:54] <LjL> and it used to be shareware anyway (though not anymore)
[01:54] <devnull_> i like firefox and opera over konquerer
[01:54] <ubun> i wanna keep my system 100% 'free' as possible
[01:54] <ubun> gotta support the free
[01:54] <J4kc1> Firefox owns all
[01:54] <Wyld> anem
[01:54] <Wyld> amen
[01:54] <ubun> i like firefox 2, just not < 2
[01:54] <Wyld> that is
[01:55] <kitche> AdamKili: sorry had to reboot real quick
[01:55] <devnull_> i like all versions but i would love to get 2 on here
[01:55] <ubun> if firefox had built in bittorrent client then opera wouldnt have anything on it
[01:55] <devnull_> fudge it
[01:55] <devnull_> i will just upgrade some other time
[01:55] <darksmiley> ubuntu has two ports open - 631 and 2208.  does anyone know what these are, if i need them and if and how i can close them?
[01:56] <darksmiley> hmm, that sucks anurag
[01:56] <darksmiley> anurag, have you tried updating from within synaptic?
[01:56] <x-r00t-x> kitche, i solved the problem :)
[01:56] <devnull_> opera's widgets are nifty
[01:56] <kitche> x-r00t-x: I seen before I had to reboot
[01:56] <ubun> which ones
[01:56] <AdamKili> oh you didn't ditch me? ;)
[01:56] <ubun> firefox's "scrap book" extention is awsome
[01:56] <kitche> AdamKili: nah my cd drive was full so it gave me many i/o errors
[01:57] <x-r00t-x> kitche,  oh i just uninstall firestarter :D
[01:57] <devnull_> whats scrap book ?
[01:57] <ubun> scrab book lets you save parts of a web page as like a bookmark
[01:57] <ubun> and a few other things
[01:57] <devnull_> nice .... google notebook ?
[01:57] <ubun> dunno i havent used google notebook yet
[01:57] <x-r00t-x> google notbook? what is that?
[01:57] <darksmiley> DOES ANYONE KNOW? ubuntu has two ports open - 631 and 2208.  does anyone know what these are, if i need them and if and how i can close them?
[01:57] <devnull_> go check it out
[01:57] <anurag_> J4kc1, what;s your status buddy
[01:57] <darksmiley> sorry that was to get people's attention!
[01:57] <darksmiley> hehe =)
[01:58] <devnull_> so the only recommended way to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 is through update-manager -c ?
[01:58] <jrib> devnull_: yes
[01:58] <LjL> darksmiley: cat /etc/services - 631 is CUPS web interface anyway
[01:58] <anurag_> darkmatter, I'm just trying out, whether it will work r not, for the community
[01:58] <devnull_> fudger
[01:58] <J4kc1> anurag_: 4 minutes for it to finish downloading
[01:58] <jrib> devnull_: why?
[01:58] <J4kc1> anurag_: How were you updating anyways?
[01:58] <devnull_> it keeps telling me i dont have enough diskspace
[01:59] <SinnerG> I have 2 hd's atm, 2nd one isnt used, is there a way to 'convert' those to raid0? Anyone know and if so : how?
[01:59] <J4kc1> devnull_: I'm doing the update-manager -c thing
[01:59] <devnull_> should be smooth
[01:59] <darksmiley> LjL, thanks i'm checking it out =)
[01:59] <anurag_> update-manager -c same stuff
[01:59] <shayan_> hey guys, i have  a screen that does 1400 x 1050, but im only getting 1024 x 768 in the screen resolution picker thing...
[02:00] <J4kc1> anurag_: Good good
[02:00] <devnull_> shayan you might need to reconfigure x
[02:00] <netman> hi , somebody have problem after update with gdm ?
[02:00] <jake> hello, I have screwed up my file perms for my windows partition and now it won't boot, can anyone help
[02:00] <devnull_> netman what problem ?
[02:00] <netman> i upgrade my system dapper to edgy
[02:00] <jrib> devnull_: how much space do you have left?
[02:00] <netman> only start manual
[02:00] <anurag_> J4kc1, devnull_ rofl here's an issue :P
[02:00] <J4kc1> netman: Here is a bunch of problems and their solutions: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-upgrade-common-problems-with-solutions.html
[02:00] <devnull_> on which drive .... on /var i have gigs, on /usr i have 1gig and /tmp is 1gig aswell
[02:00] <J4kc1> anurag_: Tell me the issue =P
[02:01] <ubun> is there a tool to view my windows partition from within linux? i'm pretty sure i read somewhere there was, i mount something...
[02:01] <harri3844> what is the little update tool near the time called?
[02:01] <devnull_> it says it only needs 180m
[02:01] <J4kc1> ubun: Some kind of virtual machine thing?
[02:01] <darksmiley> LjL... neither were on the list.  but you're right yeah i remember 631 is CUPS, so that's cool i'll leave that to it.  2208 comes up as "unknown" everywhere
[02:01] <ubun> j4kcl no just mountain my windows ntfs partition
[02:01] <Megaqwerty> Is there an "index now" feature for beagle?
[02:01] <ubun> *mounting
[02:01] <shayan_> hey guys, i have  a screen that does 1400 x 1050, but im only getting 1024 x 768 in the screen resolution picker thing, help appreciated!
[02:01] <J4kc1> ubun: ahh, don't know =P
[02:01] <ubun> i'll try google
[02:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> Ubugtu,
[02:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> eer
[02:01] <ubun> it's ok :P either do i ;0
[02:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> ubun
[02:02] <jake> ubun: mkdir /windows then mount /dev/yourwindowsdrive
[02:02] <ubun> thanks :)
[02:02] <Jeeva> i created a screen -S irssi, and ran IRSSI on it, how do i get back to my normal screen ?
[02:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> what jake said
[02:02] <ubun> even faster than google, you should get a benchmark award
[02:02] <cmt^^> anyone here tried ezquake with ubuntu?
[02:02] <J4kc1> what's ezquake?
[02:02] <AdamKili> Sorry I had to restart. No seriously. trying to get compiz to work WASN'T working
[02:02] <darksmiley> does anyone know what PORT 2208 is for?
[02:02] <devnull_> i really can't make any more space on /var so i hope it doesn't need over 1.3gigs of free space
[02:02] <kevinh90> hi
[02:02] <darksmiley> or how you can close ports?
[02:02] <GenNMX> !google port 2208
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google port 2208 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <kitche> darksmiley: do a search the ports information is usually on the sites
[02:03] <cmt^^> Jeeva - you must have named your screen something, right?
[02:03] <J4kc1> anurag_: ONLY ONE MORE MINUTE TILL I LOSE ALL MY DATA AND CRASH LINUX!! =D
[02:03] <jake> to make the change permenant you could ad a line to /etc/fstab you can google examples
[02:03] <darksmiley> ok, thanks =)
[02:03] <Ramraid> Hey ppl Anyone know if feisty amd 64iso  supports intel emt 64
[02:03] <Megaqwerty> Is there an "index now" feature for beagle?
[02:03] <cmt^^> ie 'screen -S irc irssi'
[02:03] <anurag_> J4kc1, 15 mins left :P
[02:03] <harri3844> anyone know what the name of the little update tool in the system tray is called?
[02:03] <kevinh90> is there a way to install ubuntu without the ubuntu-desktop packages(no x, just text)
[02:03] <GenNMX> darksmiley: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=%22port+2208%22&btnG=Search , possible ftp data port
[02:03] <J4kc1> anurag_: 30 secs
[02:03] <Jeeva> cmt^^: i'm in IRSSI already
[02:03] <jrib> harri3844: update-manager?
[02:04] <Jeeva> how do i get back to my other screen
[02:04] <jake> can anyone help me fix my windows file permissions?
[02:04] <cmt^^> well yeah
[02:04] <Megaqwerty> harri3844: update-manager?
[02:04] <Forgott3n> ok I have a quick question. For downloading a live 64-bit cd image... can that apply to 64-bit intel chips? or only AMD as mentioned?
[02:04] <harri3844> jrib: ill check it
[02:04] <darksmiley> thanks GenNMX =)
[02:04] <cmt^^> but when you do the screen-command next time
[02:04] <Megaqwerty> oh jrib got there first :)
[02:04] <LjL> darksmiley: 631 is on the list, though it refers to printing-something generically
[02:04] <cmt^^> do 'screen -S irc irssi'
[02:04] <J4kc1> anurag_: Okay, it's starting to install (AKA corrupting everything)
[02:04] <jake> I messed them up using Kubuntu
[02:04] <Jeeva> cmt^^: whats the diff ?
[02:04] <Jeeva> i made screen -S irssi
[02:04] <jrib> LjL: I think 631 is for the cups web interface?
[02:04] <AdamKili> so how can i fix compiz? here's the full error (not to long for the channel i hope): 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b compiz.real: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed.
[02:04] <anurag_> J4kc1, lol
[02:04] <darksmiley> yeah i decided i would leave 631 open, as i don't want to risk breaking ubuntu's printing system
[02:04] <LjL> jrib: indeed
[02:05] <harri3844> jrib: can I still use update-manager in kde?
[02:05] <darksmiley> and it's hardly a security problem
[02:05] <cmt^^> and then to detach press ctrl+a+d
[02:05] <harri3844> jrib: is there a kde version?
[02:05] <LjL> darksmiley: i don't have 2208 open by the way
[02:05] <cmt^^> to reattach do screen -r irc
[02:05] <Jeeva> cmt^^: thanks worked :)
[02:05] <Megaqwerty> Is there an "index now" feature for beagle?
[02:05] <cmt^^> 8)
[02:05] <darksmiley> wow really, it's not open when you portscan?
[02:05] <netman> J4kc1 thanks for url but my problem is not list on this page :S
[02:05] <J4kc1> Should I have this window open while installing Edgy?
[02:05] <jrib> harri3844: I don't see why not.  No I don't think there is a kde version.  But I don't use kde
[02:05] <J4kc1> netman: Alright, try asking some of the nerds in here =P
[02:05] <harri3844> jrib: ok thanks
[02:05] <nluh> Anyone here that could help me!?? I'm trying to install ubuntu (This is the first time using a linux distro) Is there a command-line that allows me to install without running live-desktop thingy from cd!?
[02:05] <netman> :)
[02:06] <jrib> nluh: you could use the alternate cd
[02:06] <netman> somebody have problem with gdm after update to edgy ?
[02:06] <nluh> what alternate cd?
[02:06] <AdamKili> nluh: not that i know of. I had to use the alternate cd like jrib said
[02:06] <netman> only start manually
[02:06] <nluh> I've downloaded only one cd
[02:06] <J4kc1> what's gdm anyways?
[02:06] <jrib> nluh: it is on the download page, let me know if you can't find it
[02:06] <Wyld> what do these errors mean?
[02:06] <Wyld> make[2] : *** [install-binPROGRAMS]  Error 1
[02:06] <Wyld> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/kevin/Desktop/lives-0.9.7/src'
[02:06] <Wyld> make[1] : *** [install-am]  Error 2
[02:06] <Wyld> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/kevin/Desktop/lives-0.9.7/src'
[02:06] <Wyld> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[02:06] <jrib> !paste | Wyld
[02:06] <ubotu> Wyld: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> !paste
[02:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:06] <kitche> netman: what's your problem exact;y?
[02:06] <devnull_> netman how did you do the upgrade ?
[02:06] <LjL> darksmiley: nope
[02:06] <Wyld> it wasn't that big
[02:06] <J4kc1> !gdm
[02:07] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[02:07] <J4kc1> Ohhh
[02:07] <netman> with update-manager
[02:07] <Megaqwerty> Is there an "index now" feature for beagle?
[02:07] <netman> kitche gdm only start with /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:07] <J4kc1> netman, can you reconfigure it?
[02:07] <Jeeva> kevinh90: install ubuntuserver )
[02:07] <netman> but not automatic when pc start
[02:07] <darksmiley> LjL... weeeeird man! =S  i'm sure i scanned before i did any updates, and it was open then too
[02:07] <netman> yes i try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:07] <darksmiley> LjL, UNLESS it was opened by something i installed
[02:08] <J4kc1> netman, alright, then rebooted?
[02:08] <netman> and try reinstall but noghitng
[02:08] <J4kc1> netman, Well, I'm out of ideas
[02:08] <netman> nothing*
[02:08] <netman> me too :D
[02:08] <cmt^^> how do I configure X to run certain programs when starting?
[02:08] <J4kc1> Sucks being a Ubuntu/Linux noob
[02:08] <anurag_> :)
[02:08] <anurag_> byes
[02:08] <netman> lol
[02:08] <J4kc1> Cya
[02:08] <cmt^^> J4kc1 - you're not alone, if that's any comfort
[02:09] <LjL> darksmiley: well try a netstat -l
[02:09] <devnull_> easier than being a slackware noob
[02:09] <J4kc1> cmt^^: Oh yes, very comforting =P
[02:09] <cmt^^> 8)
[02:09] <jaryn> oh it's great fun
[02:09] <nluh> Anyone have this problem -> the live cd freezes when it's loading the desktop
[02:09] <jrib> netman: pastebin the result of this:
[02:09] <darksmiley> ok
[02:09] <nluh> this happens over and over and over again
[02:09] <J4kc1> nluh, Sucky pc? =P
[02:09] <jrib> netman: pastebin the result of this:  ls /etc/rc*/*gdm*
[02:09] <cmt^^> nluh - where when loading?
[02:09] <nluh> J4kc1: Yes!
[02:10] <J4kc1> problem solved!
[02:10] <cmt^^> nluh - before starting X, or in the middle of it?
[02:10] <david____> HI
[02:10] <nluh> Well.. it starts to show some icons..
[02:10] <cmt^^> oh ok
[02:10] <nluh> 3 one i think
[02:10] <cmt^^> crappy cd? :)
[02:10] <nluh> then it freezez
[02:10] <netman> jrib : /etc/rc0.d/K01gdm  /etc/rc1.d/K01gdm  /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm  /etc/rc3.d/S13gdm  /etc/rc4.d/S13gdm  /etc/rc5.d/S13gdm  /etc/rc6.d/K01gdm
[02:10] <jaryn> did you burn the disc yourself?
[02:10] <nluh> Yes i did
[02:10] <darksmiley> oo, apparently it's listening on 43065 as well
[02:10] <david____> I have one hell of a question for you guys
[02:10] <cmt^^> did you md5sum-check it?
[02:10] <anurag_> nluh, simple, upgrade the rams
[02:10] <nluh> What?
[02:10] <cmt^^> before our burned
[02:10] <david____> put your thinking caps on
[02:10] <J4kc1> anurag_: Lawl @ upgrades rams
[02:10] <nluh> What do u mean cmt^^
[02:10] <LjL> darksmiley: oh wait, i'm an idiot. i did the portscan while on SSH to my debian, not on ubuntu... :-\
[02:10] <jrib> netman: hmm it should start.  Where do you end up exactly?  In a terminal to log in?  Or do you get errors?
[02:10] <jaryn> did you check the md5 hash of the file
[02:10] <cmt^^> well
[02:10] <david____> wep+mschapv2+peap
[02:10] <cmt^^> you had an iso
[02:11] <devnull_> The upgrade aborts now. Please free at least 179M of disk space on /var/cache/apt/archives/. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[02:11] <J4kc1> nluh, Before starting live disk think, do md5sum check etc.
[02:11] <cmt^^> that you burned onto the cd
[02:11] <cmt^^> right?
[02:11] <darksmiley> LjL, hehe =D
[02:11] <jaryn> to make sure that it was a good download, wasn't corrupted
[02:11] <devnull_> ?
[02:11] <nluh> jaryn: I have no idea what u'r talking about.. md5?
[02:11] <cmt^^> you have to check that the file isn't corrupted
[02:11] <anurag_> J4kc1, md5sum oO
[02:11] <cmt^^> and using a tool called md5-hashing
[02:11] <david____> anyone VERY familar with wpa_upplicant?
[02:11] <LjL> darksmiley: yeah, it's open on ubuntu
[02:11] <kitche> !md5sum|nluh
[02:11] <ubotu> nluh: To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[02:11] <J4kc1> anurag_: Where did the sum come from?
[02:11] <nluh> But i've downloaded the files from the ubuntu webpage
[02:11] <J4kc1> nluh, when you put in the CD
[02:11] <LjL> darksmiley: and the responsible process is hiodp
[02:12] <darksmiley> LjL, cool =)  how about 43065 if you netstat -l ?
[02:12] <cmt^^> sure, but you still have to check it before burning it
[02:12] <J4kc1> You get a menu right?
[02:12] <LjL> darksmiley: which is part of the hplip package
[02:12] <cmt^^> I downloaded the whole thing
[02:12] <cmt^^> from 3 different locations
[02:12] <darksmiley> LjL, hplip? printer again?
[02:12] <netman> jrib  gdm start do noghitng (blaknk screen) , i change to another terminal and /etc/init.d/gdm restart do the magic
[02:12] <cmt^^> and got them all wrong
[02:12] <zim> hi all is there a simple howto to get mp3 mpeg mov wmv etc to work
[02:12] <netman> nothing*
[02:12] <AdamKili> ok ok. nevermind about compiz. what things should I talk about during my 5 min ubuntu presentation while my computer boots up?
[02:12] <J4kc1> cmt^^: LOL! That's hilarious =P
[02:12] <cmt^^> !mplayer
[02:12] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[02:12] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[02:12] <LjL> darksmiley: yes, HP printers driver
[02:12] <david____> zimL: vlc
[02:12] <J4kc1> cmt^^: It worked on my first try =P
[02:12] <cmt^^> then u were lucky
[02:12] <Megaqwerty> Is there an "index now" feature for beagle?
[02:12] <cmt^^> 8)
[02:13] <nluh> anyone have had this problem before -> cannot find display
[02:13] <david____> so can anyone help me?
[02:13] <darksmiley> LjL... but i don't have an HP printer... in fact, i don't have printer... lol
[02:13] <LjL> darksmiley: 43065 is not open, though i have 43998 open
[02:13] <J4kc1> david____: VLC doesn't play WMV methinks
[02:13] <zim> ty
[02:13] <david____> I am trying to associate with an AP and I have no luck
[02:13] <LjL> darksmiley: doesn't matter, hplip comes installed by default
[02:13] <darksmiley> silly ubuntu with their unnecessary drivers... hehe =)
[02:13] <david____> yeah
[02:13] <david____> VLC doesn't
[02:13] <AdamKili> methinks it does 4 me
[02:13] <J4kc1> Which is a shame, since the sound and video de-sync in MPlayer
[02:13] <david____> :(
[02:13] <jaryn> i finally just got mp3s working today
[02:13] <DeamonminD> hello anyone arounf?
[02:13] <J4kc1> No
[02:13] <DeamonminD> arround*
[02:13] <J4kc1> Everyone is gone
[02:13] <david____> I am ttrying to get help:(
[02:13] <AdamKili> brb
[02:13] <DeamonminD> :)
[02:13] <Megaqwerty> !ask
[02:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <LjL> darksmiley: hm it doesn't even show on netstat though
[02:14] <darksmiley> LjL, ah ok, that's interesting you have different ports open.
[02:14] <zim> oh yes im on a sony tr1mp and have no sound any ideas
[02:14] <david____> I am tryign to associate with a PEAP +WEP network
[02:14] <DeamonminD> my serial modem Connects on startup how to disable its dialup in startup>?
[02:14] <darksmiley> LjL, firestarter will block it all though i think.  i'm being pedantic i know but after using slackware for a couple of years i'm used to having a very secure machine =)
[02:14] <david____> I installed entwork manager, wpa_supplicant, created an appropriate wpa_supplicant.conf file
[02:14] <jrib> Megaqwerty: yes, export BEAGLE_EXERCISE_THE_DOG=1   and then run beagled
[02:14] <david____> fired it all up
[02:14] <J4kc1> darksmiley: Real men use DOS
[02:14] <david____> and while I get verbose output
[02:15] <david____> I am not able to get an ip
[02:15] <david____> real men use knives
[02:15] <Megaqwerty> jrib: hm...but isn't beagled already running at default?
[02:15] <david____> and dead huuman skin
[02:15] <J4kc1> But you can't stab a OS =P
[02:15] <david____> yes you can
[02:15] <LjL> darksmiley: well i don't really care on this machine since it's behind a hardware firewall anyway, but i'm wondering about this 43998 port
[02:15] <J4kc1> Nu-huh
[02:15] <david____> the cds already havea hole and everything:D
[02:15] <jrib> Megaqwerty: yes, you may have to kill him
[02:15] <darksmiley> j4kcl, rofl! no, confused misinformed men use DOS! lol
[02:15] <J4kc1> Hahah =P
[02:15] <david____> okay
[02:16] <david____> so back to me
[02:16] <darksmiley> LjL, suspicious aint they? =D
[02:16] <J4kc1> david is such an egocentric person =P
[02:16] <david____> basically, I am using a broadcom based linksys54g PCMCIA card
[02:16] <DeamonminD> from where i can view startup applications?
[02:16] <LjL> darksmiley: considering i cannot get it to show on netstat, yes, a tad
[02:16] <Megaqwerty> jrib: "he" won't die
[02:16] <jrib> Megaqwerty: how did you try?
[02:17] <darksmiley> LjL... it's the NSA! taking control of your machine! =O!
[02:17] <david____> what woudl the driver be called assumign that I follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[02:17] <cmt^^> well
[02:17] <cmt^^> now sleep
[02:17] <Megaqwerty> jrib: pasting it
[02:17] <J4kc1> sleeping is for non-men
[02:17] <jaryn> or rather, i thought i had mp3s working.. but while rhythmbox now recognizes the mp3 format, no sound comes out when it says its playing them
[02:17] <david____> bcmbcm43xx?
[02:17] <Megaqwerty> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35680/
[02:17] <cmt^^> J4kc1 - i am a WOman
[02:18] <cmt^^> not a NOman
[02:18] <con-man> w00t. 37 min wait to download the WoW patch from fileplanet
[02:18] <J4kc1> damn
[02:18] <J4kc1> got me there
[02:18] <jrib> Megaqwerty: you are supposed to do 'beagle-shutdown', don't murder him!
[02:18] <jvai> doent totem-xine play mp3 format.. i swear i had it play thru that
[02:18] <J4kc1> con-man: WoW on Linux? What kind of magic is this!?
[02:18] <Megaqwerty> jrib: lol whoops. Thanks!
[02:18] <cmt^^> sleep
[02:18] <darksmiley> jvai, they all do but you need the codec
[02:18] <J4kc1> cmt^^: Bye woman
[02:18] <jvai> riight, i got thru easyubuntu
[02:19] <david____> bah
[02:19] <jrib> Megaqwerty: http://beagle-project.org/FAQ  "How do I force Beagle to index faster?"
[02:19] <Megaqwerty> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35681/
[02:20] <astronouth7303> Where's Eclipse's SWT API reference? I seem to have the docs describing it, but not the API ref
[02:20] <jrib> Megaqwerty: try without sudo
[02:20] <jvai> totem cant play .mov files, but they play thru firefox plugin, well, the mac commercials do
[02:20] <devnull_> still cant upgrade
[02:20] <Megaqwerty> jrib: i did
[02:20] <J4kc1> jrib: You have glasses?
[02:20] <Megaqwerty> lol
[02:20] <DeamonminD> can someone answer my question i m waiting :9
[02:21] <DeamonminD> :(
[02:21] <jrib> J4kc1: nope
[02:21] <J4kc1> jrib: Interesting...
[02:21] <Jeeva> can i install .rpm's ?
[02:21] <jrib> !rpm | Jeeva
[02:21] <ubotu> Jeeva: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:21] <J4kc1> Alien is DANGEROUS
[02:21] <Jeeva> bleh
[02:21] <jrib> Jeeva: are you trying to install a particular program?
[02:21] <Jeeva> yes
[02:21] <Jeeva> chillisoft.org
[02:21] <jrib> Megaqwerty: ps -ef | grep beagle
[02:22] <Jeeva> chillispot.org
[02:22] <Jeeva> even
[02:22] <J4kc1> Jeeva, you might be able to find a ubuntu alternative
[02:22] <Jeeva> there is source code
[02:22] <J4kc1> ugh, I hate source
[02:22] <anurag_> Jeeva, sudo apt-get alien
[02:22] <Megaqwerty> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35682/
[02:22] <J4kc1> You have to compile it and etc
[02:22] <anurag_> *install
[02:22] <anurag_> :P
[02:22] <J4kc1> Jeeva, name of program is?
[02:23] <Jeeva> www.chillispot.org
[02:23] <Jeeva> WISP software
[02:23] <con-man> J4kc1: its easy
[02:23] <LjL> !wow | J4kc1
[02:23] <ubotu> J4kc1: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:23] <con-man> J4kc1: wine
[02:23] <Jeeva> http://www.chillispot.org/download.html
[02:23] <jvai> deamonmind thru "sessions" "system-pref-sessions"
[02:23] <Megaqwerty> jrib: check the paste please.^^
[02:23] <J4kc1> con-man: Everyone knows wine doesn't work!
[02:23] <jrib> Megaqwerty: try killing th helper first then beagled
[02:23] <con-man> J4kc1: it does if you use it right!
[02:24] <con-man> J4kc1: :p
[02:24] <J4kc1> con-man: Psh
[02:24] <Jeeva> the older versions of chillisport had debian packages
[02:24] <Jeeva> but i want the latest, and it only has .rpm
[02:24] <J4kc1> con-man: What are your specs? Won't wine eat up a lot of stuff?
[02:24] <con-man> J4kc1: wine is harmless
[02:24] <con-man> J4kc1: and doesnt take up any resources
[02:24] <J4kc1> con-man: Says you =P
[02:25] <anurag_> con-man, more than 80% of winapp doesn't work under wine
[02:25] <LjL> J4kc1: and it's you who says the contrary. who are we to believe? :)
[02:25] <J4kc1> Cedega needs to be "free-er"
[02:25] <J4kc1> LjL: Good point =P
[02:25] <DeamonminD> jwai:my serial modem connects dial automatically when i boot.,. wat to do?
[02:25] <darksmiley> LjL, i wanted to try virus scanning just to much sure there's no funny business going on (reeeaaally unlikely i know, but 've never scanned before) and i have aegis installed... but i have no idea where it is
[02:25] <con-man> J4kc1 & anurag_:wine runs what i want it to run. for everything else there are linux versions of the programs
[02:25] <jrib> Jeeva: I would compile it
[02:26] <J4kc1> Anti-virus on Linux? Lol
[02:26] <LjL> darksmiley: dpkg -L aegis-virus-scanner
[02:26] <darksmiley> j4kcl, yeah i know, but i thought just in case there was anything strange going on it might pick it up
[02:26] <LjL> darksmiley: but perhaps you'd want to try something like rkhunter/chkrootkit as well
[02:26] <Jeeva> how do i compile again ?
[02:26] <Jeeva> just run make ?
[02:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell Jeeva about compiling
[02:27] <x-r00t-x> can anyone tell me how do i configure gprs via bluetooth?
[02:27] <jvai> deamonmind, u r on dial up? i cant help u there, if u want to connect the connection thru dial up, try firestarter firewall
[02:27] <Jeeva> last time i worked on unix was when i still used freebsd 4
[02:27] <darksmiley> LjL, i have aegis installed, but i can;t find the executable
[02:27] <J4kc1> Once Linux becomes mainstream and has most marketshare, there are going to be a LOT of viruses for it...
[02:27] <darksmiley> j4kcl... i beg to differ =)
[02:27] <LjL> darksmiley: the command i gave you will list all files, including the executable
[02:27] <darksmiley> LjL, how do i get hold of those programs?
[02:27] <DeamonminD> jjvai thanx :
[02:27] <LjL> !info rkhunter | darksmiley
[02:27] <ubotu> rkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8-5 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 488 kB
[02:27] <eletido> is there a package for the JDK?
[02:27] <LjL> darksmiley: like all programs that are packaged... sudo apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit
[02:27] <LjL> after enabling universe that is
[02:27] <LjL> !info aegis-virus-scanner
[02:27] <ubotu> aegis-virus-scanner: A virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 144 kB
[02:28] <JPeerless> is there a difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:28] <LjL> !dapper | JPeerless
[02:28] <ubotu> JPeerless: dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[02:28] <anurag_> !avast
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <JPeerless> ah thanks
[02:28] <anurag_> lol
[02:28] <J4kc1> Lol
[02:28] <Jeeva> jrib: ubotu didn't give me a link
[02:28] <darksmiley> LjL, sorry i'm not used to debian
[02:28] <coz_> JPeerless, no
[02:28] <jrib> !compiling | Jeeva
[02:28] <ubotu> Jeeva: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell darksmiley about software | darksmiley, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:28] <coz_> JPeerless, ubuntu is ubuntu dapper or ubuntu edgy
[02:28] <JPeerless> How about installing ubuntu on two drives on RAID 0
[02:29] <J4kc1> 25 more minutes and my hard drive will be corrupt!
[02:29] <borg> jeez, xorg keeps saying that i dont have a device section for the second port of my radeon 9800 card when i have already defined it in my xorg.conf, can anybody help?
[02:29] <EricJ2190> i am having problems logging in to ubuntu
[02:29] <JPeerless> Ive heard a package called dmraid will allow me to install ubuntu on my raid
[02:29] <EricJ2190> when i try to log in with the graphical login, it says "A critical error occured."
[02:29] <darksmiley> LjL, thanks!
[02:29] <coz_> JPeerless, I have not tried it but i see no reson it wouldn't work
[02:29] <Megaqwerty> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35684/
[02:29] <EricJ2190> when i try to log in from tty1 it asks for my username, but instead of asking for my password it says "Login incorrect."
[02:29] <eletido> is there a package for the JDK?
[02:29] <anurag_> J4kc1, its installing edgy on my laptop :)
[02:29] <kitche> !jdk
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <alvaro_> anybody could tell me what the latest ubuntu release?
[02:30] <J4kc1> anurag_: It's installing Edgy on the only PC I have which is this one =)
[02:30] <borg> !dualmonitor
[02:30] <kitche> eletido: not sure there might be look though synaptic I always get the one from sun's site
[02:30] <coz_> EricJ2190, stupid thing to ask... but.. make sure cap lock isnt on??/ I am just guessing here
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualmonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <darksmiley> LjL, i understood the veeeery basic principles of apt-get and stuff, and also noticed that the ubuntu tools are just synaptic refined and fiddled with! lol
[02:30] <jrib> Megaqwerty: can you shutdown now, I having two beagled is probably not good
[02:30] <Megaqwerty> alvaro_: 6.10
[02:30] <Megaqwerty> lol
[02:30] <jrib> Megaqwerty: beagle-shutdown I mean
[02:30] <Megaqwerty> I know
[02:30] <borg> !xorg.conf
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <anurag_> J4kc1, lol happy messing
[02:30] <alvaro_> Megaqwerty, thanks
[02:31] <eletido> kitche: thanks.
[02:31] <J4kc1> anurag_: Thanks =)
[02:31] <Megaqwerty> jrib: they are still both there in pidof :(
[02:31] <J4kc1> My PC is really slow now
[02:31] <J4kc1> I should close uTorrent
[02:31] <kitche> eletido: yeah you want JDK
[02:31] <anurag_> I was messing around for months, finally giving it a try ;)
[02:31] <anurag_> gnite ;)
[02:32] <kitche> eletido: since your unregistered I can't answer you back in the pm
[02:32] <jrib> Megaqwerty: you could kill -9 but I don't know how well beagle will handle that (ie if it will get ocnfused when it starts up again)
[02:32] <Jeeva> jrib: thanks for link
[02:32] <LjL> darksmiley: "Add/Remove Programs" is based on Synaptic if that's what you mean, yeah. but Synaptic, Adept, apt-get, aptitude, etc, are all front-ends to the same APT backend anyway (well, with aptitude adding a bit of magic of its own). and ubuntu doesn't try to create an alternative to APT at all, it just uses APT and tries to give some "nice" "user-friendly" frontends to it
[02:32] <J4kc1> anurag_: I like to make sure that all the bugs were found before I try the new version, that's why I waited two months.
[02:32] <anurag_> J4kc1, me neither
[02:32] <william> hola
[02:32] <eletido> kitche: how do i register?
[02:33] <darksmiley> LjL, yeah i noticed the update tool is also based on synaptic =)
[02:33] <alvaro_> i am getting problems with my nvidia video card, i see image in frames, any idea?
[02:33] <borg> !dual
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <LjL> darksmiley: and on Adept if you're on KDE, yes.
[02:33] <LjL> !fishing | borg
[02:33] <ubotu> borg: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[02:33] <kitche> eletido: /msg nickserv register <email> pass
[02:34] <eletido> kitche: i am sure i did that.
[02:34] <LjL> Ubotu, tell borg about dualhead | borg, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:34] <borg> jeez, xorg keeps saying that i dont have a device section for the second port of my radeon 9800 card when i have already defined it in my xorg.conf, can anybody help?
[02:34] <kitche> eletido: but did you identify
[02:34] <darksmiley> LjL, ah unrelated question and speaking of KDE - when they get KDE up to scratch (for what ubuntu wants to do with it), do you think they'll get it looking as good as ubuntu and do away with the kubuntu blues?
[02:34] <J4kc1> LjL is so leet
[02:34] <darksmiley> i don't think they suit it... =S
[02:34] <Jeeva> jrib: do i need to dump the source into a specific directory before i can make ?
[02:34] <alvaro_> ubotu, whats the problem with dual?
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whats the problem with dual? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Megaqwerty>  jrib: is there any way to pull this off easily?
[02:34] <J4kc1> Ubotu, do you love me?
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you love me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> jrib: like the recovery console mayhaps?
[02:35] <J4kc1> =(
[02:35] <LjL> !bot abuse
[02:35] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[02:35] <alvaro_> i am getting problems with my nvidia video card, i see image in frames, any idea?
[02:35] <jrib> Megaqwerty: what do you mean? pull what off?
[02:35] <LjL> darksmiley: i don't think. they're already changing the standard KDE colors/background to something more violet-looking...
[02:35] <eletido> kitche: thought i did.
[02:35] <ivx> hey to renew my dhcp lease i just do sudo dhcpclient right?
[02:35] <jrib> Jeeva: yes
[02:35] <Megaqwerty> jrib: the acceleration of beagle's indexing
[02:35] <Jeeva> jrib: where ?
[02:35] <anurag_> lol @ J4kc1
[02:35] <jrib> Jeeva: anywhere you have write access will do
[02:35] <Megaqwerty> jrib: i.e. the aforementioned "index now"
[02:35] <anurag_> have fun
[02:35] <nicola> when I give "sudo thunar" it says
[02:35] <nicola> Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[02:35] <anurag_> gnitez
[02:35] <nicola> (even if it works)
[02:36] <jrib> Megaqwerty: not that I know of.  Only way I know is to start it with that variable set
[02:36] <J4kc1> anurag_: Going?
[02:36] <darksmiley> LjL, ah. it's just that kubuntu doesn't really suit the ubuntu look very well, which is fine as it is parallel, but i'm guessing they will make KDE their primary GUI within a year or so
[02:36] <kitche> nicola: try gksu thunar
[02:36] <nicola> ok
[02:36] <nicola> i'm using fluxbox though
[02:36] <Megaqwerty> jrib: what is kill -9
[02:36] <Megaqwerty> ?
[02:36] <ArrenLex> darksmiley: They will make KDE the default GUI of what?
[02:36] <darksmiley> ubuntu
[02:36] <LjL> darksmiley: i wouldn't be so sure honestly, unless you know something i don't
[02:36] <ArrenLex> darksmiley: How do you figure that?
[02:37] <nicola> kitche,  same error
[02:37] <Megaqwerty> jrib: bash doesn't recognize that command
[02:37] <darksmiley> Mark Shuttleworth is the biggest financial contributor to KDE =)
[02:37] <jrib> Megaqwerty: it murders the process.  It makes it shutdown right away.  killall -9 beagled
[02:37] <Crescendo> My number lock key doesn't work.  Pressing the number keys works, but the period doesn't.  What can I do to fix this?
[02:37] <Megaqwerty> k
[02:37] <J4kc1> Why do people prefer KDE over Gnome?
[02:37] <J4kc1> Or vice-versa
[02:37] <darksmiley> j4kcl, because KDE is the future of linux GUIs =)
[02:37] <jrib> !offtopic
[02:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:38] <darksmiley> hehe =)
[02:38] <J4kc1> darksmiley: Kinda heavy though
[02:38] <LjL> darksmiley: not sure that means much. anyway, on Kubuntu by default (well, it works when it wants to), Gnome applications get the Kubuntu colors and fonts (and looks, thanks to the gtk-qt theme engine)
[02:38] <ArrenLex> J4kc1: I prefer KDE because it gives me an amazing number of options to do whatever I want, because it is well-organised and feature-complete, pretty, and comes with anything I could want. :)
[02:38] <borg> xorg keeps saying that i dont have a device section for the second port of my radeon 9800 card when i have already defined it in my xorg.conf, can anybody help?
[02:38] <coz_> J4kc1, it is a matter of preference i prefer gnome because it is more logical and at this point more stable than KDE
[02:38] <jvai> i like gnome for it's simplicity, if i need more the terminal is wonderful
[02:38] <LjL> darksmiley: i suppose they might implement something like that at some stage for the Gnome counterpart
[02:38] <kitche> borg: what is the second port on your card vga?
[02:38] <borg> kitche, it's DVI and the second is a VGA
[02:38] <darksmiley> j4kcl, i think... gnome is a great GUI, but it's a little limited now, and KDE has a lot more flexibility and power, but is still in development really
[02:39] <ArrenLex> coz_: KDE is unstable for you?
[02:39] <darksmiley> it's not as solid as gnome
[02:39] <J4kc1> See? Edgy already started screwing my PC
[02:39] <Fenix-Dark> whats the latest release of ubuntu?
[02:39] <coz_> ArrenLex, kde is more unstable tha gnome yes
[02:39] <LjL> !edgy | Fenix-Dark
[02:39] <ubotu> Fenix-Dark: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:39] <ArrenLex> coz_: Odd. I've never noticed problems.
[02:39] <coz_> ArrenLex, gnome is free anyway
[02:39] <J4kc1> They're both free
[02:39] <coz_> sort of
[02:40] <ArrenLex> coz_: And? So is KDE. o_O
[02:40] <darksmiley> arrenlex, i think he;s right, KDE doesnt quite match gnome in terms of all round stability and stuff. gnome is just rock solid
[02:40] <ArrenLex> coz_: They're both GPL-licensed...
[02:40] <darksmiley> but it will get there =)
[02:40] <Megaqwerty> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35686/
[02:40] <ArrenLex> darksmiley: News to me, but I've not run gnome much so I don't know.
[02:40] <J4kc1> KDE will eventually overcome Gnome
[02:40] <jrib> Megaqwerty: ok it should be doing its thing now
[02:40] <J4kc1> Just like Linux will overcome Windows
[02:41] <ArrenLex> J4kc1: And the snow will overcome Hell.
[02:41] <J4kc1> And Ubuntu will overcome all other Distros
[02:41] <Megaqwerty> jrib: top doesn't seem to agree
[02:41] <J4kc1> Arrenlex: Exactly!
[02:41] <ArrenLex> J4kc1: I hope not. I hate ubuntu.
[02:41] <Megaqwerty> jrib: unless it takes 0 cpu
[02:41] <kitche> !offtopic
[02:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:41] <LjL> !offtopic | J4kc1, ArrenLex, coz_, darksmiley
[02:41] <ubotu> J4kc1, ArrenLex, coz_, darksmiley: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:41] <J4kc1> Then why are you here? =P
[02:41] <J4kc1> LjL, Sorry
[02:41] <ArrenLex> J4kc1: To help newbies. =P
[02:41] <darksmiley> ah!! hehe!
[02:41] <darksmiley> oops
[02:41] <darksmiley> we digress
[02:42] <jvai> lol.. my desktop is basic, i transparented the panels, terminal, & the xchat client, threw a dark grey gnome background in for the "unix" look... ppl dont kno what to make of it in starbuck's
[02:42] <Megaqwerty> jrib: ideas/
[02:42] <giblets> I'm getting incredibly slow internet speed here.... no proxy config could be detected, not sure if there is a proxy though. any ideas what might be causing this? when I ping google, there's no lost packets... it just took 45 seconds for 6 packets
[02:42] <Megaqwerty> *?
[02:42] <jrib> Megaqwerty: when you run 'beagles-status' and wait like 20 seconds, it does no show you any information?
[02:42] <kitche> !ipv6|giblets
[02:42] <ubotu> giblets: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:42] <Megaqwerty> jrib: none
[02:43] <JonTec> hey, I can't login correctly to kubuntu. and the boys over at #kubuntu ain't being to helpful. lol. I enter my username, but I can't enter my password: it doesn't even ask me for it. It just says "Incorrect login".
[02:43] <Megaqwerty> jrib: I'm baffled
[02:43] <jrib> Megaqwerty: beagle-info --status
[02:43] <kitche> JonTec: how you trying to login? command line kdm?
[02:43] <JonTec> no, like gui... like how I always do
[02:43] <Megaqwerty> jrib: giving it 20 secs....
[02:44] <con-man> I cant wait to play the new WoW patch
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> jrib: nothing
[02:44] <kitche> JonTec: try this alt+ctrl+f2 and see if you can log in that way
[02:44] <jrib> Megaqwerty: try shutting down beagle, deleteing ~/.beagle/ and starting over
[02:44] <JonTec> kitche: I think I can, I can ssh in
[02:44] <JonTec> lemme try
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> jrib: what do you mean? like delete it, and then re-install beagle?
[02:44] <darksmiley> heehee i'm doing a complete rootkit check! never tried this before
[02:45] <astronouth7303> sometimes, X misses a keyup or something, and it will repeat a key like a thousand times. (A Saitek gamers keyboard) What's up and how do I fix it?
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> jrib: or $beagle-shutdown then delete then $beagled $beagle-status
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> ?
[02:45] <jrib> Megaqwerty: yes, the latter
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> k
[02:45] <JonTec> kitche: wow. yeah, it won't let me login
[02:46] <giblets> kitche: thanks
[02:46] <shayan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313961
[02:46] <shayan_> solve that and get a cookie
[02:46] <shayan_> please
[02:46] <jrib> shayan_: what kind?
[02:46] <Jeeva> no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:47] <shayan_> jrib: anything you want
[02:47] <jrib> Jeeva: install build-essential, this is on the wiki page
[02:47] <kitche> shayan_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick the resolutions you want to use when it gets to the res part or
[02:47] <Jeeva> my internet is to slow to browse
[02:47] <kitche> !fixres|shayan_
[02:47] <ubotu> shayan_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:47] <Jeeva> timeout ftw
[02:47] <hoto> Hello, my gnome-panel somehow is using up 10MB of my RAM. Is it supposed to use up this much?
[02:47] <kitche> !ipv6|Jeeva
[02:47] <ubotu> Jeeva: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:47] <Megaqwerty> jrib: thou art a genius!
[02:48] <Jeeva> kitche: and that is for .. ?
[02:48] <Dev05_> Does anyone have an idea on how to install Pigment (a Fluendo app)?
[02:48] <shayan_> kitche, am i supposed to do that in recoverymode?
[02:48] <Megaqwerty> jrib: I am getting some status messages from beagled'
[02:48] <shayan_> or in gnome?
[02:48] <kitche> Jeeva: to disable ipv6 which will make your net slow if you don't use ipv6
[02:48] <Jeeva> kitche: try living in a country with 3rd world bandwidth :P
[02:48] <kitche> shayan_: do it in a terminal
[02:48] <LaserLine> I'm going through the Xen tutorial and it says 'where xxx is the partition where your root is located' ... root=/dev/xxx <- how do I find that info out?  Is it hdd?
[02:48] <Jeeva> i dont use IPV6
[02:49] <Jeeva> just try using Telkom for a bit :P
[02:49] <kitche> Jeeva: doesn't mean your browser isn't using it if your using firefox it has ipv6 enabled
[02:49] <LjL> Jeeva: that's precisely the point - you're not using it. anyway, you seem to be on DSL...?
[02:49] <Dev05_> LaserLine, Use gnomeparted and check where / is mounted.
[02:49] <Jeeva> LjL: try south african ADSL :P
[02:49] <Megaqwerty> jrib: I'm gonna kill gaim now so it can index all the logs. Thanks again!
[02:49] <Jeeva> big diff
[02:49] <J4kc1> 14 minutes till I go crazy
[02:49] <Jeeva> more like jazzed up 900 BPS modem
[02:49] <Jeeva> selling for "1mbit ADSL"
[02:49] <crackcorn> howdy, everytime my screensaver comes on it logs me out. is there a way around that besides never letting my screensaver kick in
[02:50] <jrib> MeisterZopf: I don't think you need to kill gaim, but glad you got it to work
[02:50] <Jeeva> LjL: i dont need to use it
[02:50] <LaserLine> Dev05_ I appreciate the help, but could you ellaborate a bit... how would I use gnomeparted.. thanks
[02:50] <Jeeva> so you're telling me the rest of the countries population, using ADSL is all wrong ?
[02:50] <Jeeva> mmkay
[02:50] <kitche> crackcorn: do you mean the screensaver when you try to resume brings up a password dialog box? since you can turn that off in the screensaver dialog box
[02:50] <BackPacker> crackcorn: are you sure it's logging you out? Or is it just asking for your password?
[02:50] <LjL> Jeeva: yes. if you read that page, it explains that having it enabled (and it *is* enabled by default) may sometimes slow things down, when you're *not* using it
[02:51] <crackcorn> yes, its completely logging me out and starting a new session when i log back in, my old session isnt listed
[02:51] <Dev05_> LaserLine, Hehe. Give me a sec...
[02:51] <Jeeva> LjL: dont need to
[02:51] <phaedrus44> ello....everyonce and a while i have to unplugg my usb network card and plug it back in to get the connection again..the usb network card is setup as wlan0 drawing a static ip from my router...any ideas..possibly with hotplug?
[02:51] <Jeeva> LjL: try reading FAULTY Report lines
[02:51] <Jeeva> faulty report lines doesn't depend on my computer
[02:51] <Dev05_> LaserLine, run gksudo gparted
[02:51] <Jeeva> or when a black steals your copper cable
[02:51] <Jeeva> big diff ;P
[02:52] <BackPacker> phaedrus44: I used to get that when running Mandrake with a usb connection to my cable modem. I gave up and got an ethernet card
[02:52] <darksmiley> LjL, well, looks like pc is clean anyway! i think i'll just remove that HP driver for now as i really don't need it.  thanks though man! =)
[02:52] <darksmiley> later all!
[02:52] <LaserLine> Dev05_: it says gparted: command not found
[02:53] <BackPacker> phaedrus44: I mean a PCI ethernet card
[02:53] <Dev05_> LaserLine, Ok then... Are you on GNOME?
[02:53] <phaedrus44> BackPacker ...no dice i need wireless..i live in an old building without cable wiring
[02:53] <LaserLine> yes
[02:53] <jaryn> Question: any idea on why Totem movie player would be able to play mp3s/wavs/etc   but rhythmbox/audacity can not?
[02:53] <jaryn> -it shows them as playing, but no sound comes out
[02:53] <Jeeva> LjL: i've been online for ~13 years now, i know when its line related or browser/OS
[02:54] <Jeeva> and i dont use FailFox 2.0
[02:54] <BackPacker> phaedrus44: Oh, sorry, I missed the 'wlan0' part
[02:54] <phaedrus44> hehe
[02:54] <phaedrus44> no prob
[02:54] <BackPacker> phaedrus44: have you tried just doing 'ifdown wlan0' followed by 'ifup wlan0'?
[02:54] <Dev05_> LaserLine, If so, you may run gedit /etc/fstab or if you're on KDE, kate /etc/fstab
[02:54] <shayan_> kitche, that just made my screen go black, so i rebooted
[02:55] <iratik> ?
[02:56] <phaedrus44> BackPacker:  i dont want to do either..i need a connection that doesnt drop
[02:56] <hikenboot> anyone in here good with dynamic dns/bind9/webmin?
[02:56] <Bakefy> what bit torrent application do you all prefer
[02:56] <crackcorn> sorry the computer i was on completely locked up and had to be rebooted, im now ona  machine next to it. not sure if it went through, but yes its completely logging me out, the lock screensaver option is not checked
[02:56] <Trini_Man> transmission
[02:56] <jrombousk> good morning all
[02:56] <BackPacker> phaedrus44: I understand that. Wish I could help more...
[02:56] <Trini_Man> Freeloader
[02:56] <jrombousk> anyone know how to use the defrag tool for ubuntu?
[02:57] <LaserLine> Dev05_ I see a bunch of text, but the only thing that seems like it would be it is /dev/hdd whish is right next to /media/cdrom0 ? so /dev/hdd
[02:57] <BackPacker> jrombousk: what defrag tool?
[02:57] <Shaba1> Hello all
[02:57] <Bakefy> I have used utorrent for windows.  is there anything like it for linux?
[02:57] <jrombousk> well its acting sluggish, so i figured its fragmented, i found one on the ubuntu forums
[02:57] <kitche> Bakefy: utorrent can run in wine if you want to use it
[02:57] <BackPacker> Bakefy: azureus, bittorrent, ktorrent
[02:57] <Shaba1> anyone have experiance on getting unbuntu to query a dhcp server?
[02:58] <kitche> Shaba1: sudo dhclient <device> or what do you mean exactly
[02:58] <jrombousk> its also on aptitude
[02:58] <Shaba1> I would guess that is it kitche
[02:58] <Bakefy> does win require a lot of resources?
[02:58] <dustin> question... my headset sound isnt working for some reason, any ideas?
[02:58] <Shaba1> But I am a windows administrator
[02:59] <Jeeva> 4 AM
[02:59] <Jeeva> zzz time
[02:59] <dustin> im running edgy btw
[02:59] <BackPacker> jrombousk: most linux filesystems don't need defragmenting
[02:59] <Shaba1> We are getting 15 machines donated with an ubuntu disk.
[02:59] <Shaba1> the machines are blank
[02:59] <Trini_Man> All dont need to defrag
[02:59] <Trini_Man> lol
[02:59] <Trini_Man> windows with the Crapy file system needs to
[02:59] <Shaba1> I mean I do not want to look a gift horse in the mouth
[02:59] <kitche> Shaba1: dhclient <dev> will make it get an ip from a dhcp server it usually works by default
[03:00] <BackPacker> Trini_Man: maybe someone will write one that does need defragging... :-)
[03:00] <Shaba1> but trying to get these machines to work with my window2000 server is going to be a B*$%h
[03:00] <jrombousk> alright, i guess i have some other problem thats causing the slow transfer off of the laptop
[03:00] <Trini_Man> lol
[03:00] <dustin> question about audio + headset
[03:00] <Trini_Man> shoot
[03:00] <BackPacker> jrombousk: off of the laptop onto what?
[03:00] <kitche> Shaba1: not really just install samba and read samba's website
[03:00] <dustin> I can record my voice... and I can hear my voice playback on my speakers, but not on my headset
[03:00] <jrombousk> a win xp machine, with wired lan
[03:00] <Dev05_> LaserLine, Find under the <mount point> column, /
[03:01] <Shaba1> kitche
[03:01] <jake> hello, I am trying to watch  a video on google and I have no sound I believe its with flash  7
[03:01] <BackPacker> jrombousk: could be ethernet frame size
[03:01] <crimsun> the -backports repo contains flash 9
[03:01] <Shaba1> I do not want to have to remake the whole archtecture of my network
[03:01] <Trini_Man> yeah Flash hogs the Audio on the system
[03:01] <nothlit> BackPacker, the noncontinguous % will steadily increase, so over time it may be wise to defrag...
[03:01] <Shaba1> Just for these 15 maCHINES.
[03:01] <Trini_Man> u need to close other apps using audio like media players
[03:01] <jrombousk> how would i change that ?
[03:01] <Dev05_> LaserLine, Or, if on GNOME, gnome-system-monitor is easier.
[03:01] <Trini_Man> then restart the browser
[03:01] <kitche> Shaba1: you don't have to I know many windows administrators that run mixed network
[03:02] <Shaba1> If my boss approves it I am just going to buy 15 more winxp licenses
[03:02] <BackPacker> nothlit: how much time?
[03:02] <dustin> my issue is without having flash open... I have audio, but for some reason it just doesnt work through my headset
[03:02] <crimsun> dustin: asoundconf list
[03:03] <dustin> crimsum: Names of available sound cards:
[03:03] <con-man> can I run AIGLX on a radeon X1600
[03:03] <dustin> CK804
[03:03] <dustin> UART
[03:03] <LaserLine> Dev05_:  Thanks uner System Monitor... under the File Systems tab I see /dev/hda1 under Device and a / under Directory... thanks
[03:03] <crimsun> dustin: now pastebin (see topic) ``amixer''
[03:03] <BackPacker> Has anyone created a torrent for Ubuntu Multimedia Center?
[03:04] <Dev05_> LaserLine, That's it then. That's your device. You're welcome (always tell, I'm on GNOME/KDE/Xfce :D)
[03:04] <con-man> can I run AIGLX on a radeon X1600
[03:04] <x-r00t-x> my gnome bar is hang. how do i kill it ? killall gnome-bar or what?
[03:05] <dustin> crimsum: so what do you mean by (see topic) ? sorry im pretty new
[03:05] <kitche> x-r00t-x: killall gnome-panel
[03:05] <x-r00t-x> tnx kitche  :D
[03:05] <LaserLine> Dev05_: yeah thanks... i guess i always assumed ubuntu would all be gnome and kubuntu would be all kde in those channels, but will do thanks again
[03:05] <Dev05_> LaserLine, :) np
[03:05] <Crescendo> My number lock key doesn't work.  Pressing the number keys works, but the period doesn't.  What can I do to fix this?
[03:06] <Wyld> is it the kb?
[03:06] <jrombousk> thanks, gnight
[03:06] <dope> how come everytime i start up ubuntu it does the "checking root file system" operation?
[03:06] <crimsun> !paste > dustin
[03:07] <crackcorn> any ideas on the screensaver logging me out when it kicks in
[03:08] <dustin> crimsum: ok, got it... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35690/
[03:08] <groklem> random question... I have updated sources.list to 'universe' and run 'apt-get update' but still can't find 'trac' with 'apt-cache search'... clues?
[03:08] <nothlit> BackPacker, depends on how often you use you drive and how you use it
[03:09] <BHSPitMonkey> hmm
[03:09] <BHSPitMonkey> this is troublesome.
[03:09] <Malachi> I installed the upgrade to lib-xine, and now I can't play any Divx/Mpeg4 videos.
[03:09] <J4kc1> I will have Edgy in 7 minutes
[03:09] <jvai> crackcorn i think the power management thru the battery has alot to do w/ it.. i set mines to never blank, or no power save, it blanks still aftr 30mins
[03:09] <jrib> groklem: pastebin your sources.list please
[03:09] <dope> how come everytime i start up ubuntu it does the "checking root file system" operation?
[03:09] <BackPacker> nothlit: I read some time ago that ext2 works best when file data blocks are non-contiguous. Can't remember the source, though...
[03:09] <kitche> dope: maybe your system isn't being shutdown correctly
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> sometimes when I boot, I end up with a black screen that says "Starting up ..." "kill: could not kill pid '1852': No such process."
[03:10] <dustin> Malachi: I had that issue too, i couldnt figure it out, but I found that installing VNC Viewer instead of using Totem works just fine for DIvx stuff
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> and that's the end of the road.
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> VLC
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> not VNC
[03:10] <dope> hmm
[03:10] <nothlit> BackPacker, Ummm... ok.... but no one would use a non journaling file system now anyways
[03:10] <Malachi> dustin: Yeah, I'm using VLC now, and I love it, but I would like Totem integration.
[03:10] <dustin> ahh, my bad, yeah, VLC... i've been stuck on VNC Viewer
[03:10] <J4kc1> dustin: VLC doesn't play WMV's =/
[03:10] <jvai> oi! i found a win 95 cd @ work!!
[03:10] <nothlit> It does
[03:11] <crackcorn> ive set it to never, we'll see here in 5
[03:11] <Malachi> dustin: For democracy and stuff. And it doesn't play .wmvs
[03:11] <effward> I have a quick question: Where is the best place to find screenshots of Ubuntu?
[03:11] <J4kc1> It does?
[03:11] <x-r00t-x> lol # jvai
[03:11] <kitche> effward: OSdir.com in their screenshot gallery
[03:11] <shayan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313961 SOLVE IT AND GET A COOKIE!
[03:11] <jvai> smh
[03:11] <effward> Thank you kitche
[03:11] <dustin> Malachi: ahh ok, i wasnt sure, i havent come across any WMVs, but yeah, i can see how it would mess with democracy
[03:11] <shayan_> kitche, that made my screen black, the restart command
[03:11] <x-r00t-x> lol @ shy
[03:12] <x-r00t-x> lol @ shayan_
[03:12] <shayan_> :P
[03:12] <kitche> shayan_: you mean /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[03:12] <groklem> jrib: ok
[03:12] <shayan_> kitche, yes
[03:12] <Malachi> dustin: Is it a xine or totem problem?
[03:12] <nothlit> I've played wmvs with vlc
[03:12] <olu> where can i get a nvidia-glx driver that works with kernel 2.6.19?
[03:12] <kitche> shayan_: well it should stop X then restart it
[03:13] <shayan_> how long should it take?
[03:13] <kitche> olu: you can't unless you compile the driver yourself
[03:13] <effward> What is the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[03:13] <dustin> Malachi: I honestly dont know, the places i've looked it seems to be a totem problem since VLC works
[03:13] <nothlit> ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x server too
[03:13] <jrib> effward: kubuntu uses kde by default, ubuntu uses gnome by default
[03:13] <olu> bah okay kitche thx=)
[03:13] <kitche> nothlit: well that actually should kill X but in ubuntu it doesn't
[03:13] <effward> Thank you jrib
[03:13] <nothlit> effward, ubuntu uses the gnome desktop environment, and kubuntu uses the kde desktop environment
[03:13] <regeya> whee.
[03:13] <nothlit> kitche, then what does it do
[03:13] <shayan_> kitche, i dont need to restart x, i need to display 1400x1050 and might just reformat to do it lol
[03:13] <wylde> I am unable to network a ubuntu 6.1 and an ubuntu 6.06 so that I can trade files between them. I am able to see the 6.1 machine on the 6.06, but not vice versa. I am able to get both of them to see a windows machine on samba, but I need some sort of a login on windows, and my username and pw don't do it. neither does root and the pw. Help please?
[03:13] <regeya> and xubuntu would use xfce...
[03:14] <regeya> and the 10,000 other *buntus use other stuff.
[03:14] <groklem> jrib: pasted...
[03:14] <jrib> groklem: link?
[03:14] <BackPacker> effward: but you can install Ubuntu and then install the kde desktop and end up with kubuntu
[03:14] <kitche> shayan_: to get that resolution when you edit xorg.conf you gotta restart X
[03:14] <Malachi> dustin: VLC comes with codecs, doesn't it?
[03:14] <groklem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35691/
[03:14] <nothlit> nah theres only about 6 other ubuntus
[03:14] <Malachi> dustin: But I'll leave you alone and try to find an answer.
[03:14] <kitche> nothlit: it suppose to act like killall but for X but since there is gdm script running it just restarts it
[03:15] <regeya> I'm embarrassed that I'd never heard of auto-apt until this week.  how sad is that...
[03:15] <BackPacker> wylde: have you tried using NFS with the two ubuntu machines?
[03:15] <dustin> Malachi: ok, that would probably be best as I dont think I can be much help
[03:15] <nothlit> Yeah, I thought gdm was supposed to do that
[03:15] <kitche> shayan_: or do the dpkg-reconfigure way
[03:15] <J4kc1> regeya: what's auto-apt?
[03:15] <groklem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35691/
[03:15] <wylde> backpacker: what is that?
[03:15] <jrib> groklem: what does 'apt-cache policy trac' say?
[03:15] <startswithz> how difficult is it to install ubuntu 6.10 on a amd 64 with an nvidia card?
[03:15] <nothlit> kitche, ctrl+alt+backspace works fine for any xserver started with xinit
[03:15] <valkarin> Is this the place for neophyhtes or should I be else where
[03:15] <regeya> !auto-apt
[03:15] <ubotu> auto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 216 kB
[03:15] <J4kc1> Edgy...
[03:16] <nothlit> without the restarting
[03:16] <BackPacker> wylde: Network File System - the standard Unix way of getting machines talking to each other on a LAN
[03:16] <jrib> valkarin: you are in the right place
[03:16] <dustin> crimsum: crimsum, did you check out that paste of my amixer ?
[03:16] <groklem> Unable to locate package trac
[03:16] <jrib> groklem: 'sudo apt-get update' complete ok?
[03:16] <regeya> J4kc1: if you install stuff from source, it'll fetch needed packages automagically.  for example if you ran auto-apt run ./configure it'd grab deps
[03:16] <kitche> nothlit: if you try it on another distro it will kill X until you type startX unless you have gdm/kdm script running
[03:16] <regeya> (if they're available)
[03:16] <J4kc1> regeya: Ohhhh
[03:16] <wylde> backpacker: will apt-get do that?
[03:17] <godlygeek> hi all - i was in this channel about a week ago trying to find a solution to a problem where my laptop backlight would come back on after being turned off by acpi's lid.sh script. FWIW, if anyone else ever asks, turning off the monitor's DPMS in xorg.conf seems to have fixed the problem for me.
[03:17] <fnordfn> howdy! my wifi card works on the ubuntu live cd but not on my kubunut desktop.itll work right after i install for like a day or two but then i get tx packet droped errors,is it possible to take the setting ubuntu uses on the live cd and copy the files to my kubuntu box?
[03:17] <Lam_> do ogg files have id3 tags?
[03:17] <valkarin> cool.  I was wanting to know about compiling the kernel after install.  Is that the way to do it or do I do it prior to install?
[03:17] <groklem> Unable to find expected entry  testing/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:17] <Lam_> or is it a different tagging system?
[03:17] <BackPacker> wylde: you'd need to install nfs-network-server and nfs-common - and yes, you can 'apt-get install' them
[03:17] <groklem> jrib: from apt-get update.... guess thats it.... gonna change my sources
[03:17] <J4kc1> I have to go now guys
[03:17] <J4kc1> I love you all
[03:17] <jrib> groklem: yeah, get rid of testing
[03:18] <con-man> bye
[03:18] <BackPacker> wylde: Look here for more information: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html
[03:19] <groklem> jrib: wicked that did it... cheers...
[03:19] <jrib> groklem: np
[03:20] <groklem> so it was just that testing was failing preventing the universe source from being updated?
[03:20] <groklem> presumably?
[03:20] <wylde> backpacker: couldn't find the nfs-network-server package
[03:20] <jrib> groklem: well testing doesn't exist, so it was looking for something that doesn't exist
[03:20] <jrib> !repos | groklem
[03:20] <ubotu> groklem: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:20] <wylde> backpacker: but the common one installed fine
[03:20] <groklem> !repos
[03:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:21] <crackcorn> jvai, looks like it was that powermanagement setting. thanks for the help