[14:44] <kelemengabor> dpm: hi, is there going to be a meeting soon?
[14:45] <dpm> hi kelemengabor, I was actually thinking the same :) I've just had a chat with jam on #launchpad-dev, and the copy process from P translations to Q seems to have finished successfully. So I'm going to send an e-mail to the UTC list and see if we can open translations tomorrow
[14:46] <kelemengabor> I didn't had enough time to make progress recently, and I can only hope for a better next two weeks, so I'm afraid I wouldn't be of much use now...
[14:46] <dpm> well, you've been doing quite a lot with language packs!
[14:47] <dpm> I'll think about whether it's worth having a call tomorrow, as I'm going for holiday for a week, and I'm going to be a bit busy finishing other stuff
[14:47] <dpm> let me send the e-mail first and then think about it
[14:47] <kelemengabor> well, I'm updating the wiki page right now, but that's all :)
[14:50] <kelemengabor> dpm: also it would be nice if we could make the next one a full, because 12.04.1 will come soon after
[14:50] <kelemengabor> but that would require a bit more organizing
[14:54] <dpm> yeah, it shouldn't be too hard to organize a full one
[15:01] <kelemengabor> dpm: anyways, I have added a card on trello for it
[15:02] <dpm> cool, thanks


[07:54] <rigo> hi
[07:54] <rigo> my wlan card is not always detected. as my tvcard.
[07:55] <rigo> right now is the "default" 12.10 kernel installed. however im not sure that the issue is permanent under raring. i have to test.
[07:57] <rigo> x64
[08:04] <rigo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12454306#post12454306
[08:15] <Walther> On apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, i get the following:
[08:15] <Walther> The following packages have unmet dependencies: cups : Depends: cups-daemon (>= 1.6.1-1) but 1.6.1-0ubuntu15 is installed cups-daemon : Depends: libcups2 (= 1.6.1-0ubuntu15) but 1.6.1-1 is installed
[08:15] <Walther> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[08:26] <rigo> bazhang: maybe its easyer here
[08:26] <bazhang> rigo, you on 12.10? or 13.04 with the issue
[08:27] <rigo> is there a 13.04? never heared.
[08:27] <rigo> so im on 12.10 x64 with raring
[08:28] <rigo> right now its a clean install of the minimal system server installation 12.10 x64 with openssh server only.
[08:28] <Walther> eh, 13.04 is raring
[08:28] <Walther> 12.10 is quantal
[08:29] <rigo> i c.
[08:29] <rigo> yesterday i upgraded to the latest stable raring kernel. and im not sure that i had the error... i have to test.
[08:30] <rigo> what is sure, if there is no network, i have nothing under dmesg, lspci and ifconfig -a
[08:34] <bazhang> rigo, you mixed a raring kernel with 12.10?
[08:34] <rigo> of corse :D
[08:34] <rigo> bad?
[08:34] <bazhang> rigo, thats completely unsupported; why are you asking for support on it?
[08:35] <rigo> ok. right now i have a clean install of 12.10 x64 with the default kernel.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:23] <MrChrisDruif> Hey BluesKaj
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hi MrChrisDruif
[13:24] <MrChrisDruif> So how is the Ubuntu train coming along?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> I'm still on 12.10 , the 3.7 kernel bugs prevent my pc from having 13.04 installed
[13:26] <MrChrisDruif> Ugh.
[13:27] <MrChrisDruif> "3.7.1-2.fc18.x86_64" <= me running Fedora 18
[13:29] <BluesKaj> no big deal, I'm trying out opensuse 12.2 just for fun ...seems ok but the packaging system is rather convoluted with yast and zypper and the rpms ..I find the source repos a bit messy
[13:29] <BluesKaj> but it runs well enough
[15:28] <rye> has anybody noticed increased number of media playback hanging with totem/gstreamer in raring?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> totem , rye ? ..wow thought that was old and dead
[16:19] <rye> BluesKaj: totem, yep, as in default video player in Ubuntu. I guess this is what happening in raring - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/1085342
[16:20] <BluesKaj> default, really ? ...been on KDE for yrs so totem has sort of drifted away ...I use VLC anyway
[17:06] <progallo> Hi im totally new on Ubuntu can somebody help me?
[17:06] <progallo> im having troubles with my mouse
[17:06] <progallo> its a wireless logitech
[17:40] <bjsnider> progallo, better to use the #ubuntu channel
[18:09] <jarlath> Anyone using Raring for day-to-day use? I'm happy with 12.04 but also I'm hearing that Raring has been very reliable due to the new QA processes. Just curious :)
[18:11] <dkessel> not on my primary machine. i use it on my netbooks, but it is very stable compared to previous releases, yes...
[18:13] <jtaylor> it probably depends on what software you are using
[18:13] <jtaylor> and with what you have problems in 12.04
[18:14] <BluesKaj> raring won't install here , the kernel(3.7) is buggy nfor some amd cpus and nvidia gpus
[18:18] <jarlath> thanks dkessel , jtaylor and BluesKaj . I have no problems with 12.04 and I have it installed on several machines so I will be reluctant to upgrade before the next LTS. But there were some very nice updates to Unity since then so I'm finding it difficult not to upgrade :)
[18:19] <dkessel> BluesKaj, raring does have the 3.8 kernel now
[18:19] <BluesKaj> jarlath, that's main thing , if you're happy with your setup then stay with it
[18:20] <BluesKaj> dkessel, yeah just tried the latest daily , same result ,..stalls in text mode at the HW recognition stage
[18:21] <jtaylor> if you have a free partition you can install it there to test it out
[18:21] <BluesKaj> which is about 10 secs into the install procedure on the live-dvd
[20:14] <BluesKaj> ok , I'm at the 13.04 destop on the live dvd , and have decent graphics from nouveau. However , the installer / ubiquity still will not install the OS. It just sits there with the cursor spinning . I assume this is the new 3.8 kernel since this is today's daily build.
[20:15] <DredTiger> I'm running raring on a macbookpro. When I connect to my company VPN, DNS resolution for things outside the company domain fails.
[20:15] <bjsnider> BluesKaj, getting closer though
[20:15] <DredTiger>  I've been poking around the internet and see how network-manager uses dnsmasq
[20:16] <DredTiger>  however /var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf is always zero bytes
[20:17] <DredTiger> /etc/resolv.conf only has <IP_ADDRESS> for lookups...I assume that's what dnsmasq binds to
[20:18] <DredTiger> I've tried adding extra dns servers via network manager to the vpn configuration settings, my wireless settings and no joy
[20:18] <BluesKaj> bjsnider:  tyes, but it's odd that ubiquity is still stalling. Granted that it's early days , but this has been going on since november
[20:19] <BluesKaj> DredTiger:  are you on wifi or ethernet , or both ?
[20:20] <bjsnider> not sure this is the right channel for his questions
[20:20] <DredTiger> BluesKaj: Wifi
[20:20] <DredTiger> I can plug in if needed
[20:20] <BluesKaj> ok then you need network manager
[20:21] <BluesKaj> ime , NM doesn't play nice with dnsmasq
[20:22] <DredTiger> I thought NM runs it's own copy of dnsmasq? I certainly didn't set up dnsmasq
[20:22] <DredTiger> Is there a pastebin for this channel?
[20:27] <DredTiger> I used the general ubuntu pastebin
[20:27] <DredTiger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1532124/
[20:28] <BluesKaj> penguin42 said something about setting grub to text mode in the console so that ubquity wouuldn't try to use the graphical mode during the install on the assumption that it's the graphics card bug that's preventing ubiquity from going further
[21:25] <DredTiger> Is this the place for me to be asking about VPN & DNS behavior in raring? Or is there just no one here right now who is familiar w/ those subsystems?
[21:51] <bjsnider> DredTiger, unlikely that this is the right place
[21:53] <bjsnider> there is a channel for network-manager talk. it's #nm
[21:53] <bjsnider> this may not be a raring-specific issue
[21:53] <DredTiger> bjsnider: thnx
[21:54] <bjsnider> even if it is, the talk that goes on in this channel is usually on a lower technical level than that
[21:56] <DredTiger> K
[22:04] <schmoost1r> Hi there... I've an issue which manifests similarly to #869881, though I'm up and running with 13.04 & unlike the original reporter I seem to have traced back to a missing or mal-specified /dev/xconsole
[22:05] <schmoost1r> I'm not sure wether to comment on that bug, or if I should open another
[22:05] <schmoost1r> I'd rather not be needlessly opening bug reports
[22:14] <schmoost1r> ah, I think the rsyslog package just needs its deps updating
[22:29] <schmoost1r> ah, no, it's "Could not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole'" on start


[12:22] <lapo> hi
[09:38] <Madpilot> The DocTeam has started getting 6.06's docs up on Lulu, so people can get paper copies inexpensively. http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
[09:41] <jak08> kool
[09:41] <jak08> and then what do I do with them?
[09:41] <Madpilot> um, read them? ;)
[09:42] <jak08> oh, is that anything like eating?
[09:42] <Madpilot> ...
[09:42] <jak08> well?
[09:45] <jak08> ahh, here I imagened it being free, but you trickedme you sly dog
[09:45] <jak08> but it is coo
[09:45] <SS2> Madpilot: they cost nothing?
[09:45] <SS2> $0.00 <--- looks cheep
[09:45] <jak08> click on them and find out
[09:45] <jak08> thats to download
[09:46] <Madpilot> you can download the PDFs free; I think the actual paper copies are about $7 USD
[09:46] <jak08> yes I want the chinnese one
[09:46] <SS2> Madpilot: ok, but that price ist also good ;)
[09:47] <Madpilot> yeah. they're not huge books, only about 80pgs for the Ubuntu Desktop Guide, and at least 10 or 15 pages is the licenses at the back...
[09:48] <jak08> still it's kinda cool
[09:49] <Madpilot> as more translations get done, we'll add them, too
[09:49] <jak08> yep
[09:49] <jak08> you will
[09:50] <jak08> I'm pycik thats how I know
[09:50] <Madpilot> psychic?
[09:51] <jak08> yep thats the work
[09:51] <jak08> word*
[11:49] <klepas> moin
[11:55] <AndyFitz> new slashdot theme is nice
[12:00] <lapo> hi
[12:05] <AndyFitz> hi lapo
[12:05] <lapo> yo andy
[12:06] <AndyFitz> how goes it mate.  tried the inksccape pre releases ?
[12:08] <lapo> yep, using it
[12:08] <lapo> well, a 3weeks old build I believe
[12:11] <AndyFitz> give it another whirl ;-)
[12:11] <AndyFitz> some more polish is on   we're looking to release before friday ( may / may not happen )
[12:12] <lapo> cool, downloading it
[12:12] <lapo> no support yet for effects, right?
[12:33] <AndyFitz> not yet
[12:33] <AndyFitz> blending modes and filters some day tho ;-)
[12:33] <AndyFitz> two SoC projects for filters
[12:34] <AndyFitz> scribus has blending modes now .. ( experimental )
[09:22] <msikma> Hey everyone
[09:30] <nettogrof> hi:)
[11:45] <lapo> any thunderbird/firefox skinner around?


[00:35] <KaZeR> hey wgrant
[00:36] <wgrant> KaZeR: Hi
[00:37] <KaZeR> i just got your answer about my translation upload issue. thanks for looking into this
[00:37] <KaZeR> i double-checked with an up to date cookie : 2015-04-10 17:37:07,569 ERROR Template upload failed (error 500, URL https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/+upload)
[00:38] <KaZeR> ( my call is ./translations-lp-upload -p navit -e trunk -t navit  /home/navit/github/bin/po/navit.pot -k cookies.sqlite )
[00:39] <wgrant> What's the body of the 500 response?
[00:39] <wgrant> I've not seen this translations-lp-upload tool before.
[00:39] <KaZeR> that's all i get from translations-lp-upload. i can dig a bit
[00:39] <KaZeR> this script comes from : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-l10n-tools
[00:40] <KaZeR> if you know of another one, i'm interested :)
[00:40] <wgrant> I don't know of another one.
[00:40] <KaZeR> ok
[00:41] <KaZeR> i managed to workaround the problem for now by using curl and sending the cookie info in the headers for now
[07:35] <dreamcat4> hello. would it be OK to cross-build an android image on launchpad.net build farm ? it is for a target hardware similar to the rpi2
[07:37] <dreamcat4> not and app, an android image
[07:40] <dreamcat4> or to put it another way, what are the resource limits for SourceBuilds ?
[08:00] <wgrant> dreamcat4: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:00] <wgrant> (and why do you want to do it on LP?)
[08:21] <grepper> if I have a package that works as is for several Ubuntu releases, can do a depends like:  foo | bar, foo | libbar   ...  where foo is in both releases, but bar and libbar are only in vivid ?
[08:25] <dreamcat4> wgrant: nevermind. i guess i should use a more appropriate service, such as google compute engine
[08:26] <grepper> its actually mplayer | mpv, mplayer | libmpv1 .  There is also a ffmpeg | avconv Depends: but that is okay as they can be installed side by side in Vivid
[08:30] <wgrant> grepper: It's fine as long as at least one can be satisfied everywhere.
[08:31] <grepper> wgrant: awesome, thanks. I did notice that dpkg didn't complain on trusty, but still wasn't sure if it was strictly kosher


[12:36] <xubuntu79i> Is their any way to share my GPU with Virtualbox or VMWare workstation .... If anyone know than tell me ...
[15:14] <xu-irc21w> Hello
[18:54] <pjotter> Hi everybody. This has me scatching my head for a while: There seems to be competing plugins in the panel that 'steal' each others indicator icons. Sometimes, indicators are missing, sometimes, they appear elsewhere on the panel. I can't make head nor tails of it. What's going on? Is is because I have to many competing panel plugins?
[19:00] <diogenes_Vx15> pjotter, what are "competing panel plugins"?
[19:01] <pjotter> So, I have: Notification plugin, Status Tray Plugin, Indicator plugin, Status Notifier plugin on my panel. They seem to have overlapping or even competing functionality. Sometimes, icons appear in one plugin, then the next time in another, then suddenly they dissappear altogether. Also not all icons are working properly. Sometimes they show the wrong status or the icons won;t change at all.
[19:02] <diogenes_Vx15> pjotter, what XFCE version?
[19:02] <pjotter> 22.04
[19:02] <pjotter> Not sure if this is a known issue?
[19:05] <diogenes_Vx15> pjotter, on my 4.18 i only need Status Tray Plugin.
[19:05] <diogenes_Vx15> try leaving only that one and remove others.
[19:06] <pjotter> Yeah, I might try to eliminate them and see if that helps. This is going to require a lot of logging off and on... brb
[19:06] <diogenes_Vx15> pjotter, wait
[19:07] <pjotter> ok
[19:07] <diogenes_Vx15> first of all make sure "session save" is disabled.
[19:07] <diogenes_Vx15> otherwise it might not help.
[19:07] <pjotter> Ok, i'll check when logging off. Thanks!
[19:07] <diogenes_Vx15> no problem.
[19:08] <pjotter> You do mean: "Save session for future logins checkbox" at log off?
[19:09] <diogenes_Vx15> yes and not only there.
[19:09] <pjotter> Elsewhere too?
[19:09] <diogenes_Vx15> also look for it in settings editoe > xfce4-session
[19:10] <diogenes_Vx15> it's called SaveOnExit
[19:10] <pjotter> Yes, both are disabled
[19:11] <diogenes_Vx15> also look in session and startup, it sould be disabled thre too.
[19:11] <diogenes_Vx15> if all is ok then you are good to go.
[19:11] <pjotter> Yes, all are disabled.
[19:11] <pjotter> I'll remove the excess plugins and see what happens
[19:12] <diogenes_Vx15> ok
[19:19] <pjotter> Ok, all icons seem to be there for the moment. I will do some more testing to see if things are stable.
[19:20] <diogenes_Vx15> ok, so far so good.
[19:21] <pjotter> Is the "Status Notifier Plugin" somehow competing with "Status Tray Plugin"?
[19:22] <pjotter> I also have a "Indicator Plugin" that seems to be very similar to the other two.
[19:24] <diogenes_Vx15> pjotter, up until 4.14 (afaik) there used to be a few status notifiers plugins, starting with 4.16 they unified all of those into one singe plugin Status Tray Plugin.
[19:25] <pjotter> Ok, so i'll be just using that one to avoid problems.
[19:26] <pjotter> I think by default both where installed. So, that is how the mess started, I think.
[19:27] <diogenes_Vx15> maybe in 4.16 it was like a transition verion, in 4.18 there is only one, at least on my system.
[19:27] <pjotter> I'll be testing this configuration from here on. If it holds, it's fine. Thanks for your help and response!
[19:28] <diogenes_Vx15> no problem, hope it's useful, take care!
[19:30] <pjotter> Also I, just want to add: I recently upgraded the kernel from 6.2.0-26 to 6.2.0-31. This unfortunately disables the ability to mount cifs v1 shares. I had to manually upgrade to 6.2.1 to get it working again. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.
[19:35] <diogenes_Vx15> pjotter, doesn't Xubuntu 22.04 have 5.15 LTS kernel?
[19:36] <pjotter> I don't know. I just did a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and suggested upgrading to 6.2.0-31
[19:38] <pjotter> I think it originally came with "5.19.0-32.33~22.04.1", but with upgrades quickly upgraded to 6.2.0-26.
[19:38] <diogenes_Vx15> and what this shows: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:40] <pjotter> It gives: https://termbin.com/pqw7
[19:41] <diogenes_Vx15> it still says that you are on 22.04.
[19:41] <pjotter> correct
[19:42] <pjotter> I see the system has upgraded to 22.04.3 even.
[19:45] <pjotter> Yes, I read the 22.04.3 version was 'shipped' with kernel 6.2
[19:47] <diogenes_Vx15> i just never do dist-upgrade only apt update && apt upgrade.
[19:47] <pjotter> I like to be on the cutting edge :)
[21:57] <retr0> ciao a tutti!


[00:00] <lazyPower> jose: you know what I didnt do? I didn't set a domain name, then I re-ran the hook after it initially enabled the site
[00:00] <lazyPower> so there are some idempotency issues with the install hook as well.
[00:01] <jose> lazyPower: so, even if not setting a domain name, it did run successfully before
[00:01] <jose> just failed here, I'm checking
[00:01] <jose> 2014-03-15 00:00:00 INFO juju.worker.uniter context.go:255 HOOK /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-mailman-0/charm/hooks/install: line 150: warning: here-document at line 126 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOL')
[00:01] <jose> 2014-03-15 00:00:00 INFO juju.worker.uniter context.go:255 HOOK /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-mailman-0/charm/hooks/install: line 151: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[00:01] <jose> lazyPower: ^
[00:02] <jose> that's the error preventing it from finish
[00:02] <lazyPower> yeah. Give it s'more TLC and I'll recheck. I'm going to log out for the day.
[00:02] <lazyPower> its 8:00pm here local - long day
[00:03] <jose> have a nice weekend! :)
[00:03] <jose> and thanks again!
[00:03] <lazyPower> but if you need anything, email me, ping me, whatever :)
[00:03] <lazyPower> i'm happy to help
[00:03] <lazyPower> tc o/ have a good weekend
[03:04] <bodie_> anyone know how to build the juju binary from source?  mine's getting hung up on the gwacl error
[03:05] <bodie_> I asked in dev but it's quiet tonight
[03:06] <sarnold> bodie_: you could check out the build logs, they may have some guidance about what you've overlooked: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/168405383/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.juju-core_1.17.4-0ubuntu2_UPLOADING.txt.gz
[03:08] <bodie_> ah, I see the problem
[03:08] <bodie_> I need more cores
[03:08] <bodie_> :{
[03:18] <bodie_> that's very, very different from all the lit I've seen saying to simply "go get launchpad.net/juju-core"...
[03:18] <bodie_> but, I guess if it builds it builds
[04:55] <onrea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7093712/ ==> status: pending ?!
[05:01] <onrea> ^
[05:10] <sarnold> "<IP_ADDRESS>", heh, the version looks like an ip..
[05:29] <lazyPower> onrea: is your instance stuck in the pending state?
[05:30] <lazyPower> sarnold: wish me luck, i just applied for charmer status
[05:30]  * lazyPower crosses fingers
[05:31] <sarnold> lazyPower: ooh! cool!
[05:32] <lazyPower> :)
[05:51] <onrea> lazyPower: When I run "watch juju status", nothings happens
[18:06] <hazmat> geekmush1, ping
[18:07] <geekmush1> hey!  still haven't circled back to juju yet … had a webserver get compromised, so have been doing that fire drill
[18:07] <geekmush1> (wasn't my fault!  WP bad install, I think)
[18:08] <geekmush1> any updated for me to grab, tho?
[18:08] <hazmat> geekmush1, no worries.
[18:08] <hazmat> geekmush1, so i wanted to double check the version of juju you were using
[18:09] <hazmat> geekmush1, afaics juju hadn't been initialized on that machine.. or your using something older than 1.17
[18:09] <hazmat> and 1.17 +  is a pre-req for docean provider
[18:09] <geekmush1> I don't have the juju server up right now, but as I recall, it was the juju development apt repo
[18:09] <hazmat> geekmush1, no worries.. i still see somethings i can fix up which i'll work on.
[18:10] <hazmat> trying to play around with openstack dev in containers atm
[18:10] <geekmush1> cool … let me know!  :)
[18:16] <bodie_> wait, is there an actual docean provider now?
[18:16] <bodie_> I thought it was manual provider
[18:16] <hazmat> bodie_, its a plugin that automates digital ocean via manual provider
[18:17] <bodie_> hm
[18:17] <bodie_> but you still have to have already created the VM nodes right?
[18:17] <hazmat> bodie_, ie.. bootstrap/add-machine/terminate-machine/destroy-environment  via the plugin do the right thing wrt to do
[18:17] <hazmat> bodie_, no.. it creates them for you using the do api
[18:17] <bodie_> oh...  I misread the docean walkthrough then, or i'm confused in some other way
[18:17] <hazmat> bodie_, its not an actual provider.. its a client side provider
[18:18] <hazmat> bodie_, ie.. you have to juju docean add-machine before doing juju deploy/add-unit
[18:18] <bodie_> ohhhhh
[18:18] <bodie_> I misunderstood that as actually adding the machine yourself on digitalocean
[18:18] <bodie_> which really seemed to defeat the purpose, heh
[18:18] <hazmat> hmm.. maybe i should clear up the docs there
[18:18] <bodie_> oh, is that yours?
[18:18] <bodie_> nice work if so
[18:18] <hazmat> bodie_, yeah
[18:19] <hazmat> the lxc plugin is the one i'm using on a daily basis.. manual provider + lxc-clone w/ snapshot.
[18:19] <bodie_> why not make juju deploy do an add-machine first, if it's not there already?
[18:19] <bodie_> yeah, that's pretty cool for sure
[18:19] <bodie_> I use DigitalOcean a lot on my own, so I got really excited when I realized how simple juju would make that, until I thought I still had to make the VMs myself :S
[18:20] <hazmat> bodie_, deploy relies on the provider on the state server to allocate the actual machine if one is not already available
[18:20] <hazmat> bodie_, give it a whirl then.. feedback always welcome
[18:20] <bodie_> I see
[18:20] <bodie_> and since it's manual, it wouldn't know how
[18:20] <hazmat> yup
[18:20] <hazmat> in fact it throws an error on deploy now w/ manual


[12:52] <dhanu> I am contributing to Ubuntu . After adding a patch to my bug report , I saw comment
[12:55] <dhanu> I am contributing to Ubuntu . After adding a patch to my bug report , I saw comment  that only  says ," tags: 	added: patch " . What does it mean ????
[12:56] <cjwatson> That just means an automatic process noticed that you'd added a patch and tagged the bug accordingly.  You can ignore it
[12:57] <dhanu> So does it mean my bug fix is over ?
[12:58] <dhanu> I mean the review part of my bug fix ?
[12:59] <cjwatson> dhanu: No
[13:00] <cjwatson> dhanu: I suggest asking in #ubuntu-bugs if you want more specific help; this channel is just for the operation of the launchpad.net hosting software itself
[13:01] <dhanu> cjwatson: Thank you for the help .
[14:04] <sreedevi> Hello, I am trying to propose a merge in to another branch in launchpad from the terminal, They are asking for the keyring password, Could you please tell me what is a keyring password?
[14:28] <dobey> sreedevi: the password for the keyring on your computer, where secret keys/passwords are stored
[14:29] <sreedevi> dobey: Could you please explain?
[14:34] <dobey> sreedevi: see the "Passwords & Keys" application
[15:27] <sreedevi> dobey:Thank you
[15:46] <leszek> hi
[15:47] <leszek> When I would upload and let launchpad build vlc for an ppa and I would upload after this phonon-vlc backend and let it build on the same ppa would this be build against the vlc in my ppa or the one in ubuntu ?
[15:55] <cjwatson> leszek: the one in your PPA
[15:55] <leszek> cjwatson: ok thank you
[15:55] <cjwatson> leszek: at least assuming that vlc has been built and published in your PPA at the point when the phonon-vlc build starts
[15:58] <leszek> yeah I assumed that ;)
[16:01] <leszek> bye and thanks
[16:28] <zorael> Is it very common for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas to fail with a timeout error? I hardly ever get it to load. (or should this be directed to #ubuntu?)
[18:52] <Azendale> If I've proposed a branch to fix a bug, is that fix commited or in progress?
[18:54] <beuno> Azendale, usually, in progress
[18:54] <beuno> fix committed is when it landed in trunk
[18:54] <Azendale> beuno: ok, thanks! Just what I was looking to find out.
[19:13] <dobey> Azendale: generally you should ask whoever maintains whatever it is you're proposing a change to, about how they use bug statuses, not here; as different projects may use some statuses differently
[19:13] <Azendale> dobey: ok, thanks for the advice. I'll do that


[18:39] <lifeless> moin
[20:45] <mwhudson> lifeless: it's monday morning and there's nothing from you on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+activereviews! what's going on?
[20:47] <mwhudson> heh, live-build git trunk got completely rebased it seems
[20:47] <mwhudson> and i got 358 emails about it
[20:48] <lifeless> mwhudson: I'm working on the librarian test infrastructure
[20:48] <lifeless> lp:~lifeless/launchpad/test
[20:49] <lifeless> I was going to propose it once I've got a bit deeper down the rabbit hole.
[20:49] <lifeless> then I ran out of disk in my vm.
[20:49] <lifeless> :P
[20:49] <mwhudson> fair enough
[20:49] <mwhudson> ouch
[20:49] <lifeless> also Civ V was released on friday.
[20:51] <mwhudson> :)
[20:52] <lifeless> the FooSetup().tearDown() style scares me shitless
[20:52] <lifeless> just soo much implied global state.
[20:52] <lifeless> me no likey
[20:52] <mwhudson> all that stuff is super old i think
[20:53] <mwhudson> e.g. the database stuff
[20:53] <lifeless> did I show you the zope.testing.functional helper?
[20:54] <lifeless> grep for 'self.__dict__.update' in your eggs
[20:54] <lifeless> or was it self.__dict__ =
[20:54] <lifeless> I can't remember.
[21:27] <thumper> mwhudson: the number of emails there completely sucks
[21:28] <thumper> morning people
[21:28] <lifeless>
[21:28] <lifeless> hi thumper
[22:02] <lifeless> \o/
[22:02] <lifeless> Could not communicate with subprocess
[22:02] <lifeless> **********************************************************************
[22:02] <lifeless> Exception KeyboardInterrupt in <module 'threading' from '/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.pyc'> ignored
[22:05] <thumper> ?
[22:14] <lifeless> just mutting about the guts of our test environment
[22:14] <lifeless> keyboardinterrupt being raised in a thread is highly suspicious
[22:39] <thumper> email backlog cleared out
[23:18] <lifeless> mars: around?
[23:24] <wallyworld> morning
[23:30] <thumper> wallyworld: morning
[23:31] <wallyworld> thumper: well, not a good morning so far. bloody teenage kids, who needs them :-(
[23:31] <thumper> heh
[23:31] <thumper> I have some kids fighting here too
[23:33] <wgrant> wallyworld: Oi!
[23:33] <wallyworld> hi wgrant
[23:33] <wgrant> Morning.
[23:34] <wallyworld> thumper: yeah, but it gets way worse when they are 16 and think they are king of the castle
[23:47] <mwhudson> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/+junk/test/+linkblueprint is an amusing page
[23:49] <thumper> mwhudson: not so much
[23:49] <thumper> wallyworld: skype?
[23:50] <mwhudson> thumper: it's not linked to, at least
[23:50] <wallyworld> you must be psychic - i was just about to ask the same thing
[23:50] <thumper> mwhudson: well that's something
[23:50] <thumper> wallyworld: yes, I am psychic
[23:50] <thumper> wallyworld: yes, I know what you are thinking
[23:50] <thumper> wallyworld: and no, you don't want to type that
[23:51] <wallyworld> "that"


[05:19] <cortexA9> hello
[18:26] <Fa_1> for the broken menu export in firefox, there is an option "ui.use_unity_menubar" wich needs to set to false in kubuntu. just to let you know :)
[19:16] <Peace-> Fa_1: ?
[19:19] <Peace-> Fa_1: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/01/12/plasma-desktopga2300.png
[19:19] <Peace-> well with true "it works fine" well ... it need to be clickled 2 times to get the menu
[19:58] <Fa_1> it would be nice if it would work "fine". its just luck that it works :P


[00:15] <\u03b5> is there a way to mark releases as testing?
[00:17] <wgrant> \u03b5: No :(
[00:18] <NakedNous> Hi
[00:18] <NakedNous> I have never used freenode
[00:18] <\u03b5> any way to mark one as current stable then?
[00:19] <NakedNous> can anyobe see me?
[00:19] <\u03b5> NakedNous, yes, Hi
[00:19] <NakedNous> say great! Hi all!
[00:19] <NakedNous> say sorry for my English, it is not my first language
[00:20] <\u03b5> you don't need to write "say" in front of everything :)
[00:20] <NakedNous> I'm a packager newbie and it seems I lost my private key when upgrading to karmic
[00:20] <NakedNous> my packages are located at: https://launchpad.net/~nakednous/+archive/ppa
[00:21] <NakedNous> and I want to upgrade them to karmic
[00:21] <\u03b5> you need to make a new key then
[00:21] <\u03b5> then set it up in launchpad
[00:21] <\u03b5> then sign the repo with your new key
[00:22] <NakedNous> is it the only way?
[00:22] <\u03b5> hopefully it is :)
[00:22] <NakedNous> I don't want the public part of the kay to be changed
[00:23] <\u03b5> then you have to do the math yourself
[00:23] <\u03b5> why is that important?
[00:23] <NakedNous> I thought the private key was also store somewhere at the ppa server
[00:24] <NakedNous> I don't want people using my software to sign it again
[00:24] <wgrant> So, there are two keys involved in PPA.
[00:24] <wgrant> *PPAs
[00:24] <wgrant> One is the one where *only* Launchpad has the private key. that's the one that your users see.
[00:24] <wgrant> And one where only you have the private key.
[00:25] <wgrant> That's the one you use to uploda.
[00:25] <NakedNous> I think so
[00:25] <wgrant> Nobody cares about that once you've uplodaed.
[00:25] <wgrant> Wow, I cannot type today.
[00:26] <NakedNous> do mean that the public part will remain unchanged?
[00:26] <NakedNous> the one my users see?
[00:26] <wgrant> Right.
[00:26] <wgrant> You never had the private key for the key that users see.
[00:26] <NakedNous> thats great!
[00:27] <NakedNous> so I need to regenerate it, but what if I need it at another computer in the future?
[00:27] <NakedNous> I will check how to retrieve it
[00:28] <wgrant> You can copy your keys (they live in ~/.gnupg) between machines. But guard them well.
[00:28] <NakedNous> I see, need to study
[00:29] <NakedNous> finally, could you please point me the url where to generate the kyes, I forgot it
[00:30] <wgrant> NakedNous: See https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editpgpkeys
[00:31] <NakedNous> say thank you all!
[00:31] <NakedNous> have a nice day
[00:31] <wgrant> You too, NakedNous.
[00:39] <DBO> bzr is the slow, I assume this is known so just popping in to ensure this is the case
[00:40] <wgrant> DBO: What operation is slow?
[00:40] <dtchen> bzr itself, or pushing to somewhere hosted by Canonical?
[00:40] <DBO> someone pushed a new branch, and nobody can access it yet
[00:40] <DBO> been about half an hour
[00:40] <DBO> dtchen!
[00:40] <DBO> wanna know something amusing?
[00:40] <dtchen> not really.
[00:40] <DBO> my speakers came back to life
[00:40] <DBO> for no friggin reason
[00:41] <DBO> about 2 months ago, out of the blue, been working ever sense
[00:41] <dtchen> congrats.
[00:41] <DBO> also I work for Canonical now :)
[00:41] <dtchen> excellent.
[00:42] <wgrant> The branch scanner appears to be doing bad things.
[00:42] <wgrant> (ie. nothing)
[00:42] <DBO> awesome
[00:42] <wgrant> mthaddon: ^^?
[00:43] <wgrant> Hm. Odd that no yellow boxes are showing up.
[00:46] <wgrant> Hmm. I wonder if it's related to the large number of new branches that have been created in the past 12 or so hours.
[00:46] <wgrant> (due to Lucid)
[00:55] <wgrant> rockstar: You're not still around?
[00:56] <rockstar> wgrant, I am.
[00:57] <wgrant> rockstar: What is going on with the branch scanner?
[00:57] <rockstar> wgrant, I didn't know anything was going on with it.  One sec.
[00:57] <wgrant> Just busy with the 16000 new branches?
[00:57] <rockstar> wgrant, oh yes, that's VERY likely.
[00:58] <wgrant> Might want to dent and topic it, unless it's finishing soon (I presume you have pretty graphs)
[01:03] <rockstar> wgrant, investigating it.
[01:46] <mwhudson> yes, branch updates seem clogged by the 16000 new branches
[01:46] <mwhudson> probably requesting them all be mirrored in one hit isn't so smart
[01:46] <wgrant> Probably not. How's it going?
[01:47] <mwhudson> wgrant: probably 25% done
[01:47] <wgrant> mwhudson: Eeep.
[01:47] <mwhudson> yeah :(
[01:47] <mwhudson> after 3 hours of progress
[01:47] <mwhudson> not so great
[01:47] <wgrant> Still, better than the old days when LP had to be taken down entirely for 12 hours for a new release's *translations*.
[01:52] <wgrant> Adding it to the topic and denting it seems like a very good idea at this point.
[01:52]  * mwhudson dents
[01:54] <wgrant> mwhudson: Thanks.
[01:55] <exarkun> 16000 is a lot of branches isn't it
[01:55] <wgrant> mwhudson: Now, remember to log back in as your normal user, or we'll have a repeat of mrevell-as-Launchpad.net.
[01:56] <mwhudson> wgrant: heh, i dented from a client that supports multiple accounts (on my phone, ffs)
[01:57] <mwhudson> i guess i should finally set up gwibber on my machine
[01:57] <lifeless> exarkun: its a measurable fraction of our total
[01:57] <wgrant> mwhudson: Gwibber 2.0 really sucks.
[01:57] <exarkun> I guess the lucid developers are really prolific?
[01:57] <lifeless> exarkun: its one branch per package
[01:57] <wgrant> exarkun: They're copies of all the old Karmic branches.
[01:57] <lifeless> more or less
[01:57] <wgrant> One for each source package.
[01:58] <exarkun> Oh
[01:58] <lifeless> exarkun: Ubuntu as a whole doesn't have 'trunk', it has one 'branch' per release, and each 'branch' is > 16000 real branches
[01:58] <exarkun> You're not talking about an editor for gnome, you're talking about karmic+1
[01:58] <wgrant> exarkun: Right.
[01:58] <exarkun> (lucid is an editor for gnome)
[01:58] <wgrant> Ahh
[01:59] <exarkun> that makes sense then I guess
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> any problem with the branch ui updates in LP?
[02:34] <RenatoSilva> pushed 2 revisions 10 minutes ago and nothing yet
[02:45] <wgrant> RenatoSilva: There are long delays - see the end of the topic.
[02:46] <RenatoSilva>  /topic does not return anything
[02:46] <RenatoSilva> but ok
[02:56] <lifeless> abentley: hi, do you remember the error you had when you tried --parallel?
[02:57] <abentley> lifeless: IIRC, subunit wasn't packaged in ubuntu and easy_install didn't work.
[02:58] <lifeless> ok; thats been covered in the thread - subunit uses autoconf (because its many-languages)
[02:58] <lifeless> I'm not sure how to many something that uses autoconf easy_install-able
[03:04] <lifeless> abentley: would more documentation in bzr have helped (to provide the expectation that you'd need to configure && make?
[03:06] <abentley> lifeless: Yes, I definitely felt at a loss as to how I was supposed to get subunit.  And I was surprised that it wasn't in Ubuntu because I'd been hearing about it from Canonical folk for years.
[03:08] <abentley> lifeless: I can't see any description of the argument to --parallel in the command help.
[03:09] <lifeless> how do you get help on a registry?
[03:12] <abentley> lifeless: You can set value_switches=True, like I did with branch formats, or you can write up a help topic, like we did with transports.  I don't think there's support for autogenerated help otherwise.
[03:13] <lifeless> what does value_switches do - would it stop the registry being lazy?
[03:14] <abentley> lifeless: value_switches causes each value to be a separate option, e.g. --fork, --subprocess.
[03:14] <abentley> lifeless: It would not stop the registry from being lazy.
[03:15] <lifeless> ok
[03:15] <lifeless> I think we should make that change, and file a bug about not getting help otherwise
[03:22] <abentley> lifeless: Anyhow, parallel=fork and parallel=subprocess both work now.
[03:24] <lifeless> col
[03:24] <lifeless> cool
[04:55] <_habnabit> Is there any sort of ETA on the branch update backlog?
[04:57] <wgrant> _habnabit: I estimate another 4 or 5ish hours, but that's working from this morning's prediction.
[04:57] <_habnabit> Dang it. :(
[04:58] <wgrant> Yes. This issue was not forseen, since the process has not been run on production before today.
[05:11] <abentley> _habnabit: It's going through ~2.5k/h, with 14k remaining.
[05:11] <_habnabit> Mmkay.
[05:14] <abentley> _habnabit: actually, closer to 3.0k than 2.5k.
[05:14] <lifeless> the lines have crossed ;)
[05:15] <lifeless> its 22000 seconds behind at the moment
[05:15] <lifeless> 6 hours to get where it is, 6 hours to go
[05:15] <wgrant> Aha.
[05:16] <lifeless> so it will be about 44K seconds behind when it catches up completely
[05:26] <Peng> This is wildly off-topic and very unimportant, but could someone near Canonical network-wise do me a favor? How accurate is ntp.ubuntu.com? ISTM it's about 2 ms slow, but I'm far away and it could just be an Internet issue.
[05:28] <wgrant> I've a host a couple of hops away.
[05:28]  * wgrant checks latency.
[05:36] <Peng> Thanks. :)
[05:38] <wgrant> Peng: I can't find another NTP server equally close (<1ms), but most others nearby seem to reliably be about 1-2ms ahead.
[05:44] <Peng> wgrant: So it really is a little inaccurate? Interesting, thanks. :)
[05:45] <wgrant> Peng: I'd say so.
[05:46] <Peng> wgrant: Thanks a lot. :)
[05:55] <lifeless> Peng: ask in #canonical-sysadmins
[05:55] <lifeless> Peng: or a question on launchpad
[05:55] <lifeless> ntp is meant to do latency adjustments
[05:59] <Peng> lifeless: Yeah, but it doesn't handle asymmetric latency.
[06:01] <lifeless> Peng: it doesn't? damn - I haven't read the spec to see
[06:02] <wgrant> How could it?
[06:03] <Peng> I think I've heard that Chrony tries to handle it better than the reference implementation.
[06:08] <lifeless> wgrant: because traffic gets sent in both directions
[06:09] <Peng> Usually it's close enough to symmetric that it's not a problem.
[06:18] <lifeless> when ntp was designed and built asymmetry was very common
[06:18] <lifeless> so  its surprising to me that it wouldn't be catered or
[06:18] <lifeless> *for*
[07:20] <mneptok> i'd like Ubuntu to use an NTP pool instead of Canonical instances
[07:21] <lifeless> mneptok: do you mean regional ones/
[07:21] <lifeless> mneptok: I recall some concerns about swamping unprepared time sources
[07:22] <mneptok> server 0.pool.ntp.org
[07:22] <mneptok> server 1.pool.ntp.org
[07:22] <mneptok> server 2.pool.ntp.org
[07:22] <mneptok> like so
[07:22] <mneptok> grabs servers from a round-robin
[07:23] <wgrant> And possibly increases load on that round-robin by a couple of orders of magnitude.
[07:23] <wgrant> lifeless: How's the scanner graph looking?
[07:23] <lifeless> 8K to go
[07:23] <mneptok> if you don't want that load, don't make your stuff public and encourage its use
[07:24] <mneptok> http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/
[07:24] <lifeless> mneptok: folk base load estimates on  current data; dropping several million machines onto an unprepard pool would be pretty harsh
[07:25] <mneptok> lifeless: that's why a Blueprint and UDS discussion would be in order ;)
[07:25] <lifeless> true
[07:25] <mneptok> and add Canonical servers to the pool
[07:25] <mneptok> "We're bringing the horde, but we have the salad and dessert."
[07:37] <thumper> wgrant: we seem to be processing just over 2k an hour, so probably another 4 hours (ish) till complete
[07:37] <wgrant> thumper: Ah. Not too bad.
[07:38]  * thumper gets ready to watch the rugby
[07:40] <lifeless> thumper: 3K
[07:41] <lifeless> 2hr to go
[07:42] <lifeless> mwhudson: if the puller had nothing to do, did you consider just lying about last-mirror?
[08:05] <vasi> hey, i can't figure out how to link my launchpad bug report to the equivalent report on SourceForge
[08:05] <vasi> should i be using the "Also affects project" link? and what if the project isn't there?
[08:06] <wgrant> vasi: You need to click 'Also affects project', select the upstream project, and enter the SourceForge.net URL
[08:06] <wgrant> If the project isn't there, you'll need to create it.
[08:06] <vasi> oh, random users can do that? cool
[08:06] <wgrant> Yep.
[08:06] <vasi> i kinda assumed that was for only admins
[08:06] <wgrant> It happens all the time.
[08:07] <vasi> ok, that was surprisingly easy....sorry for the newbie question :-)
[08:07] <vasi> (i did look at the docs, i swear!)
[08:08] <wgrant> Great.
[08:43] <goodnight> what's a "triaged" bug?
[08:45] <mwhudson> lifeless: yeah, it's a little more complicated than just lying about last mirror
[08:45] <mwhudson> but it's probably (a) doable and (b) worth it
[09:06] <lifeless> wgrant: 3K
[09:06] <wgrant> lifeless: Not bad.
[09:06] <wgrant> Unlike the lack of tests for error cases in archiveuploader.
[09:07] <lifeless> there are no error cases
[09:07] <lifeless> :)
[09:07] <lifeless> we know this, cause there aren't any tests....
[09:09] <wgrant> Looks like lp:launchpad/devel just got scanned.
[09:14] <lifeless> 1.5K now
[09:16] <wgrant> Odd.
[09:17] <lifeless> latency in the graph data I suspect
[09:17] <wgrant> Ah.
[09:22] <lifeless> but there is also a bend in the curve
[09:22] <lifeless> may be something associated with the size of the data set
[09:22] <_habnabit> Yaay! My branch finally updated.
[09:22] <lifeless> I now see ~500
[09:23] <lifeless> we're down to 9000secs latency
[09:23] <wgrant> Excellent.
[10:20] <gioele> hello, can SSH pubkeys be fully removed from a Launchpad account or will Launchpad just set them as "old"?
[12:05] <alefteris> I have checked out a mirrored branch and pushed it into a new lp hosted branch, but when doing bzr info,  parent branch still mentions the mirrored one
[12:05] <alefteris> How can I change it? thanks
[12:09] <lifeless> change what
[12:13] <maxb> bzr pull --remember parent-you-want ?
[12:17] <alefteris> thanks maxb
[12:19] <alefteris> Now I have another problem, when trying to change the development focus, the new branch is not there for selection, only the mirrored on is
[12:19] <alefteris> any idea what I'm doing wrong? thanks
[12:39] <alefteris> nevermind I found it
[12:39] <alefteris> the dev forus is a release series not a branch :/
[12:42] <alefteris> when someone aproves a merge request from the web, is the merge peroformed automaticaly in the branch or I have to do it also manualy from the terminal?
[12:44] <lifeless> you have to do it
[12:46] <alefteris> lifeless, lifeless I notised in the web merge request it has a commit message field? what is that used for?
[12:47] <lifeless> communication
[15:10] <Peng> mneptok: Adding a couple servers to the pool would not make up for the load Ubuntu users would bring...
[15:50] <carresmd> currently launchpad is _very_ slow.. having problems?
[15:52] <carresmd> ah, it's getting better
[16:13] <dtchen> filing a bug using edge appears to OOPS
[16:13] <dtchen> three in a row, the most recent being OOPS-1400EB434
[18:33] <mneptok> Peng: all Ubuntu use those servers now, so ...
[19:46] <hyc> hey, I added an upstream bug to launchpad #291760 but it used the wrong Project name
[19:46] <hyc> now when I try to change the Project it times out and says Bad Gateway
[19:47] <hyc> the upstream is gnome 580185 filed against NetworkManager
[19:48] <hyc> but the LP project says Linux, I wanted to change it to NetworkManager
[19:48] <hyc> anyone know why trying to change this fails?
[21:23] <lifeless> hyc: it already has a network manager task
[22:16] <hyc> yes, but it's all messed up. The NetworkManager task points to a kernel bug report
[22:16] <hyc> and the Linux task points to a NetworkManager bug report
[22:19] <wgrant> hyc: Click the little arrow at the left of each task, and select the correct bug watch for each.
[22:56] <RenatoSilva> is it common to report development bugs for documentation or whatever?
[22:57] <RenatoSilva> that is, report bugs that affect your development version, but no released version at all
[23:11] <hyc> wgrant: yes, I tried that but as I said at the beginning of this conversation, I was getting timeouts / Bad Gateway responses from that
[23:15] <wgrant> hyc: Reproducibly?
[23:17] <wgrant> hyc: It's incredibly slow, but I just swapped them


[03:04] <ball> Today I learned that to change the IPv4 address of an interface I have to turn it off and on again.
[03:04] <ball> (in Ubuntu)


[02:33] <bluesabre> ochosi, care to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1756608 ?
[02:36] <bluesabre> also probably related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1756612


[00:11] <subman> I've just installed samba and get now use it from another computer and look at the contents of a directory, but that user cannot write to that directory.  should that user be added to the group 'sambashare'?
[00:14] <subman> In the end, I wanted to create a 'shared directory' on my server where everyone on my local network can exchange files there.
[00:26] <qman__> subman, you need to set the file permissions such that the user in question has write access
[00:27] <subman> The user or the group
[00:27] <qman__> you can set up a group to own the files and add that user to the group, or just make that user own the files, but they need filesystem-level write access
[00:27] <subman> qman__, I have added the user to the 'sambashare' group and then changed the owner of the directory to that group
[00:28] <qman__> subman, you also need to grant group write permission
[00:28] <qman__> chmod -R g+w /path/to/your/share
[00:28] <qman__> if it still doesn't work, you may have the share set to read-only in samba
[00:28] <qman__> and will need to change it
[00:28] <subman> permissions there now:  drwxr-xr-x
[00:29] <qman__> that permission will prevent writing by members of the group
[00:32] <zul> adam_g: +1
[05:51] <twoface88> anyone uses ubuntu-server in highload production services?
[08:19] <OS-8259> Hello, I try to make the 12.04.3 dist-upgrade, and get stuck on "Found memtest86+ image: /memtest86+.bin"; apt-get seems locked running this command "30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober"
[08:29] <OS-8259> 10filesystems script was blocking the upgrade process, just killed it; seems ok
[10:13] <msafi> How can I know what I'll install when I type apt-get install diakonos?
[10:30] <geser> msafi: add -s (simulate)
[10:31] <msafi> geser, That's cool to know. It doesn't tell me what diakonos is though?
[10:31] <geser> ah, that's "apt-cache show diakonos"
[10:32] <msafi> geser, cool. Thanks a lot!
[11:49] <jargon> how come when i edit my .bashrc and .bash_aliases, and then run `exec bash` i can use my aliases at the cli. but when i logout and login again it's gone and i have to run `exec bash` again to be able to use my aliases?
[12:17] <jargon> part
[12:45] <diegonat> hi guys... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/AvahiBoot where can i find this page? I cannot find instruction about how to do it!
[13:09] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[13:11] <GeorgeJ> I want to create an ubuntu server image for a VM. What's the recommended way of cleaning up the instalation before creatig the image? Also, I need to run dpkg-reonfigure openssh-server, to regenerate the ssh keys. What's a nice way of doing this?
[13:11] <GeorgeJ> I basically just want to prepare an instalation for cloning.
[13:20] <sarig> hey one all, remote tired .. have an issue, need a sounding board pls
[13:20] <sarig> ubunto server 12. two disks, /dev/sda /dev/sdb, sda is the root primary, sdb is a store drive. sdb was mounted on /srv/share. Just recovered from a power outage, reboot the server and now /srv/share contains the root file system ??? so if i mv /srv/share/bin/grep to /srv/share/bin/bugger and do an ls on /bin/ I see bugger and no grep ... very confusing .. any thoughts ?
[13:21]  * sarig labels ??
[13:30] <tarvid> Want to try Ubuntu+LXC+Docker. What is the best base to install?
[13:32] <sarig> a little quiet in here today ;-)
[13:33] <tarvid> looking for a little wisdom myself
[13:41]  * sarig sorting it with blkid
[14:34] <diegonat> hi all.... I have got a problem with MAAS but I m not sure how to troubleshoot it. Basically, I set up a MAAS environment and I added one node. However, now I cannot add any other nodes. If you I power up a machine (virtual), it does boot but it doesnt come out in the web control panel. Any idea??
[14:53] <Lequtix> morning
[14:57] <Lequtix> anyone alive in here?
[14:58]  * sarig sorted Phew ... blkid nailed the drives by uuid
[14:58] <sarig> yep
[14:58] <Lequtix> how are you sarig?
[14:58] <sarig> you mean .. someone else is actualy typing :-)
[14:58] <Lequtix> hahaha
[14:58] <sarig> good buddy
[14:58] <Lequtix> i think today will be boring for me...  i don't want to start new projects on fridays
[14:59] <sarig> just had a remote server puck / onto a samba mount not nice
[14:59] <sarig> ahh .. for me chuking in elsa
[14:59] <Lequtix> i don't understand
[14:59] <sarig> elsa ?
[14:59] <Lequtix> elsa is a womans name?
[15:00] <sarig> http://code.google.com/p/enterprise-log-search-and-archive/
[15:00] <sarig> fed up with alienvault it's got a tad bloated
[15:00] <Lequtix> :D
[15:01] <Lequtix> i've never see that because i don't have use for it
[15:01] <Lequtix> i only have 1 or 2 servers
[15:01] <sarig> dude i use anything ;-0
[15:02] <sarig> have dual pII's still running
[15:02] <Lequtix> NICE!
[15:02] <Lequtix> :D
[15:02] <sarig> just built a monster as well on the cheap (well big enough for me)
[15:02] <Lequtix> like a 56 corvette
[15:02] <sarig> so ebay
[15:02] <sarig> hp zw9400
[15:02] <sarig> 2 x quad core amd = £36
[15:03] <Lequtix> thats a good price
[15:03] <sarig> 32gb ram = $52
[15:03] <sarig> the hp was £52
[15:03] <Lequtix> you gonna make a ProxMox server out of it?
[15:03] <sarig> so approx £120 pounds for 2 x quad core, 32Gb ram
[15:03] <sarig> currently running xen
[15:03] <Lequtix> http://pve.proxmox.com
[15:04] <Lequtix> i like proxmox cus it's kvm/openvz and has a web interface.. you don't need windows to manage it
[15:04] <diegonat> hi all.... I have got a problem with MAAS but I m not sure how to troubleshoot it. Basically, I set up a MAAS environment and I added one node. However, now I cannot add any other nodes. If you I power up a machine (virtual), it does boot but it doesnt come out in the web control panel. Any idea??
[15:04] <sarig> going to get a couple of icybox's and drop in 8 x drives,
[15:04] <Lequtix> i'm sorry diegonat i've never setup the private cloud stuff
[15:05] <sarig> i stick to openstack personaly buddy
[15:07] <diegonat> I think it is something to do with the dns server but im not sure...
[15:07]  * sarig suddenly interested in MAAS
[15:07]  * sarig <-- research
[15:09] <diegonat> sarig, thank u
[15:09] <Lequtix> so maas takes care of all the sync?
[15:09] <Lequtix> and the clustering?
[15:09] <diegonat> it takes care of the provision of new machines
[15:10] <Lequtix> this is one subject i haven't really explored
[15:10] <sarig> yes
[15:10] <sarig> all in one
[15:11] <sarig> horizontal and vertical scaling
[15:11] <sarig> just checking viable cross os support
[15:11]  * sarig still loves razor and puppet
[15:11] <Lequtix> so your problem is your instances don't show up in the control panel, but the node works fine?
[15:12] <sarig> this though is a pure "ubunto" controlling stack
[15:12] <Lequtix> yea when u install ubuntu server you have the option to install maas
[15:12] <Lequtix> i've never tried it.. don't have 3 pc's
[15:13] <Lequtix> diegonat.. did you set the fqdn's on the nodes and controller?  and add dns entries for them in either bind or in  /etc/hosts
[15:13] <Lequtix> just so everything can find everything else
[15:14] <diegonat> shouldnt maas take care of everything??
[15:14] <Lequtix> well it would be good to double check
[15:14] <Lequtix> ping the FQDN for each part of your network on all the pc's
[15:14] <Lequtix> make sure they can all resolve each other
[15:14] <Lequtix> go on machine a... ping machine b and c
[15:15] <Lequtix> then ping machine c and a from machine b.  etc
[15:15] <Lequtix> use FQDN
[15:15] <diegonat> cannot ping any of them
[15:15] <Lequtix> ok..  just make /etc/hosts entries for all machines
[15:15] <Lequtix> on all machines
[15:15] <Lequtix> see if that helps
[15:16] <Lequtix> it will at least take DNS out of the equasion as a problem
[15:17] <Lequtix> <IP_ADDRESS> machine1.domain.local machine1
[15:17] <Lequtix> thats the format
[15:17] <Lequtix> put fqdn first.. single name next
[15:17] <Lequtix> once done.. reboot them all
[15:18] <diegonat> ok im trying
[15:18] <Lequtix> if it doesn't fix anything at least we've eliminated DNS as the problem
[15:20] <ScottK> zul: Is there an FFe bug for percona-xtrabackup?
[15:20] <zul> not that i know of
[15:26] <ScottK> zul: If you want to add a new package post feature freeze, you need one.
[15:26] <zul> even for universe?
[15:30] <Hammerhead2011-S> Hi all, persistent routes are killing me in 13.04!
[15:30] <Hammerhead2011-S> post-up /bin/route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/16 gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1
[15:30] <Hammerhead2011-S> looks good right?
[15:31] <Hammerhead2011-S> I can not get it to stick. I CAN put it in after boot but, that sucks.
[15:31] <Hammerhead2011-S> any help would be greatly appreciated.
[15:32] <Lequtix> you have to put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:32] <Lequtix> one sec
[15:33] <Hammerhead2011-S> haha I know that :-)
[15:33] <Hammerhead2011-S> That is a snip from the interfaces file
[15:33] <Lequtix> i'm just looking for the syntax
[15:34] <Lequtix> ipost-up /etc/network/scripts/iproute2
[15:34] <Hammerhead2011-S> ipost?
[15:34] <Lequtix> so at the end of your /etc/init/network/interfaces
[15:34] <Lequtix> put post-up <command>
[15:35] <Lequtix> sorry the i is not supposed to be in there
[15:35] <Lequtix> so after all the networking is processed you can execute a command or script
[15:35] <Lequtix> in your case, adding a static route
[15:36] <Lequtix> do you have two gateways?
[15:36] <Hammerhead2011-S> are you thinking about /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:36] <Lequtix> yes
[15:36] <Hammerhead2011-S> :-)
[15:37] <Lequtix> the past line in /etc/network/interfaces should be post-up <command>
[15:37] <Hammerhead2011-S> no just one gw. but multiple interfaces on different subnets
[15:37] <ScottK> zul: Yes.
[15:37] <Hammerhead2011-S> well one defgw....sorry
[15:37] <Hammerhead2011-S> and that command that I posted is in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[15:40] <Lequtix> up route add [-net|-host] <host/net>/<mask> gw <host/IP> dev <Interface>
[15:40] <Lequtix> try that then
[15:40] <Lequtix> drop the POST
[15:41] <Lequtix> up route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/16 gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1
[15:41] <Lequtix> exmple
[15:42] <diegonat> guys on MAAS i have machines' status on commissioning although they are up and running... any idea?
[15:43] <zul> ScottK/smoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1221807
[15:43] <ScottK> zul: Thanks.
[15:43] <ScottK> Would someone from the server team express an opinion on Bug #1218817?
[15:44] <Lequtix> hey hammerhead..  if you just have interfaces connected to subnets.. but there's nothing beyond that subnet..  you shouldn't need static routes
[15:44] <Lequtix> if you do, then you need to use iproute2 and setup for multiple gateways..
[15:44] <Lequtix> i have a howto somewhere
[15:45] <Lequtix> http://kindlund.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/configuring-multiple-default-routes-in-linux/
[15:45] <Hammerhead2011-S> There are multiple nets on the other side of these interfaces.
[15:45] <Lequtix> ok check out that howto
[15:45] <Lequtix> linux doesn't do multiple gateways out of the box
[15:45] <Hammerhead2011-S> I wonder why I can add them on the commandline but not via the script
[15:46] <Hammerhead2011-S> if I do a #> ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/16 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1
[15:46] <Hammerhead2011-S> everything works fine
[15:46] <Hammerhead2011-S> Don't need multiple GW's just the ability to statically route traffic
[15:47] <Lequtix> k.
[15:47] <Hammerhead2011-S> weird....so weired.
[15:47] <Lequtix> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[15:48] <Lequtix> this is where i got the info for u
[15:48] <Lequtix> maybe you have a syntax error or something
[15:48] <Lequtix> i know the ip statement has to be AFTER all the interfaces are up
[15:48] <Lequtix> so put it at the bottom of the file
[15:52] <zul> ScottK:  +1 from me it has arm support which is wanted by users
[15:56] <ScottK> zul: Please say so in the bug.
[17:34] <zul> adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-swiftclient/1.6.0/+merge/184356
[17:50] <nobodies> i installed ubuntu-desktop using apt and it installed loads of crap with it, is there any way of quickly removing it all? e.g. i now have 40 games 20 text editors etc.
[17:52] <adam_g> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/saucy/horizon/openstack_auth_min/+merge/184360
[17:52] <evermean> hi i am trying to install ubuntu 13.04 x64 via USB on a machine that has no CD-ROM ... but the installer keeps on trying to mount a cd-rom....any ideas?
[17:53] <zul> adam_g:  can you have in the debian/changelog 2013.2~b3-0ubuntu1 please
[17:54] <evermean> It keep on prompting:  The current screen is telling me: Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so you can insert it and try again
[17:54] <adam_g> zul, shall i just go ahead an release it?
[17:54] <zul> adam_g:  b3? sure that will help alot
[17:54] <adam_g> zul, id actually like to do some testing to make sure the b3 dashboard is functional out of hte box
[17:54] <zul> adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.3.2/+merge/184361
[17:55] <adam_g> k
[18:11] <zul> adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-heatclient/0.2.4/+merge/184363
[18:19] <nobodies> nobody knows the answer to my question?
[18:21] <jkitchen> nobodies: if you apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop it'll tell you there's a bunch of other stuff installed that is no longer needed and tell you how to remove ti
[18:22] <nobodies> jkitchen, it didnt, however i have just found an apt-get remove that someone has written on the forum which contains all the applications it installs
[18:48] <zul> adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-glanceclient/0.11.0/+merge/184370
[19:21] <zul> adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/2.3.0/+merge/184376
[19:53] <tom[]> where should i set env vars for a service?
[19:53] <ikonia> in the init script ?
[19:53] <ikonia> depends
[19:54] <ikonia> could be in the service config file
[19:55] <tom[]> for example, mariadb and UMASK_DIR
[19:56] <tom[]> i don't want to modify /etc/init.d/mysql, it's like forking
[19:56] <tom[]> i mean, forking in the source control sense
[19:56] <tom[]> and i don't know a mysql-specific config file for env vars
[19:57] <tom[]> i imagined there would a an ubuntu or debian convention for this
[20:05] <adam_g> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/horizon/+bug/1221906
[20:11] <zul> adam_g: *grumble*
[20:56] <adam_g> zul, packaged: lp:~ubuntu-server-dev/python-troveclient/havana
[22:35] <adam_g> zul, ceilometer is busted: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer/+bug/1221956