[00:56] <iamthelostboy> hi :)  I think I asked this once before, but what is the best way to start an X app from an upstart job?  exec xinit program doesnt seem to be working, though I can xinit program from console..
[01:23] <iamthelostboy> never mind.. i figured out my daftness..
[01:33] <iamthelostboy> actually, i want to start a process and when it is running, emit an event to kick off another job..
[01:34] <iamthelostboy> the process will stay running, so i cant just put the emit after the command, and I cant put a &, because the job is set to respawn..
[01:34] <iamthelostboy> any ideas?
[01:46] <sadmac> iamthelostboy: there's already such an event
[01:46] <sadmac> iamthelostboy: started foojob
[01:48] <iamthelostboy> hey... now thats easy :)
[01:48] <iamthelostboy> im sure I tried that once before.. obviously not though..
[01:49] <iamthelostboy> will the started event be fired as soon as that job is begun?  The second job really requires the application started by the first to be running..
[01:50] <iamthelostboy> in our current setup of boot scripts, there is a wait, which I'm sure we could put in..
[01:50] <sadmac> iamthelostboy: its as soon as upstart determines the job to be running. in 0.5 there's a few ways to postpone that. Also I think it waits for post-start to finish
[01:52] <iamthelostboy> i suppose the ideal way would be to have the first application emit the event when it is at a ready state...
[01:53] <sadmac> put in a wait foo in the post-start script or if you have 0.5 use the appropriate expect value
[01:53] <iamthelostboy> its using ubuntu 8.04, which is quite a lot earlier than 0.5 i think
[01:53] <sadmac> yeah. that won't do it
[01:55] <iamthelostboy> post-start scripts only get run when the process ends? so if i run the command through exec, it will not get run until that process ends, but if it isnt run through exec, it would get run pretty quickly?
[01:56] <sadmac> it runs after the process is spawned
[01:56] <sadmac> unless your job is a task not a service
[01:57] <iamthelostboy> no.. its an application, i think..
[01:57] <sadmac> iamthelostboy: do you have a service or respawn stanza?
[01:58] <iamthelostboy> respawn
[01:58] <sadmac> ok so that should be a service...
[01:58] <iamthelostboy> oh..
[01:58] <sadmac> whihc means post-start should get run after the process is spawned
[01:59] <iamthelostboy> ill go try it
[02:01] <iamthelostboy> awesome..
[10:33] <keesj> iamthelostboy: X session live on an other planet, I you want to start something for the current user in the X11 session I think you need to use "X sessions" to do that.
[10:35] <keesj> but that said I think I would be nice if for example the program that listend to dbus (the gnome volume manager for example) could react on the upstart-events


[02:35] <carl_memsql> anyone around?  I am looking for some help with finding a avahi boot image
[02:36] <carl_memsql> the url here is dead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/AvahiBoot
[02:36] <carl_memsql> not sure if it is just a ubuntu live image that is preconfigured with avahi or if it's something else
[02:36] <carl_memsql> any help would be very appreciated
[11:17] <AskUbuntu> MaaS Enlistment through 12.10 installation CD fails (SIGKILL problem) | http://askubuntu.com/q/266510
[13:46] <mattrae> hi, i have nodes that didn't get added to the dns zone file (maas 1.2). I add the records manually but they are removed whenever maas regenerates the zone file. i suspect there is a db table where the the zone file gets generated from that wasn't updated when the machines were installed.
[13:47] <mattrae> do i need to update the database? one suggestion was to rename the node and name it back, but these nodes are already deployed with services
[13:48] <mattrae> also sometimes bind is not being reloaded when the zone file is updated and a manual reload fixes that
[13:51] <mattrae> carl_memsql: the image that maas uses should have avahi. i believe you just need to set your domain to .local for it to work. i've found it to be kinda unreliable though
[13:51] <mattrae> oops he's gone
[17:23] <mattrae> bigjools, roaksoax: around? maas is intermittantly not adding records to the zone file. seems like the nodes must not be in the table that the zone file is populated from. each time the zone file is regenerated the same hosts are missing
[17:24] <mattrae> maas 1.2. other than that the nodes seem fine
[17:24] <mattrae> is there some table i can add those nodes to so that the zone file gets generated correctly?
[17:55] <AskUbuntu> Does MaaS have any log? | http://askubuntu.com/q/266629
[19:27] <roaksoax> mattrae: what interface are you using?
[19:28] <roaksoax> for DNS/DHCP management
[19:29] <roaksoax> mattrae: is there anything on the logs? anything on syslog? (such as apparmor?)


[18:23] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:04] <mwhudson> morning
[21:28] <hads> morning
[21:57] <mwhudson> i tried to upgrade to wily on friday and ended up reinstalling :/
[21:57] <mwhudson> thank heavens for backups and usb3
[22:01] <ibeardslee> bit soon for wily isn't it?
[22:02] <ibeardslee> ..oh n/m wily is 15.10 .. carry on
[22:03] <mwhudson> :-)
[22:04] <ibeardslee> Xenial Xerus is 16.04
[22:05] <ajmitch> might still be a bit early to upgrade for some
[22:06] <ibeardslee> let's not get me on things like choices between things like Unity7/Xorg and Unity8/Mir .. LTS should be solid and set for one of them .. leave the other versions for that sort of playing
[22:11] <ajmitch> unity 8 by 18.04 then?
[22:13] <ibeardslee> heh, it might also come with perl 6
[22:15] <olly_> precise had perl 6: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/rakudo
[23:23] <chilts> afternoon


[00:56] <MaxLeiter> I opened a PR to update an example snap - is there a chance of it being merged or should I just close?
[00:56] <MaxLeiter> https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1077 for reference
[00:56] <mup> PR snapcraft#1077: Shout -> Lounge, the official fork <Created by MaxLeiter> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1077>
[04:20] <mup> Bug # changed: 1570431, 1583405, 1588833, 1600545, 1610025, 1616650, 1637505
[13:31] <anton___> Hi everyone
[13:32] <anton___> I got a question that I couldn't find any answers to on google/mailing lists etc. How do you keep a snap application alive, i.e. let's say I have an FFMPEG session that needs to run 24/7 (recording a camera), and on occasion it crashes. Traditionally I have used monit to "watch it" and restart it when it dies. How does this work with snaps?
[14:39] <kirkland> this page: http://snapcraft.io/docs/build-snaps/publish could use some updates, with "classic confinement"
[15:02] <sergiusens> kirkland: I'll propose something and get davidcalle to look at
[15:19] <stephans_> Hi all, I cannot get snap to work on Ubuntu 16.10. I get the error: - Setup snap "core" (888) security profiles (no state entry for key)
[15:19] <stephans_> How do i get dnapd to actually work.
[15:19] <stephans_> nothing strange on my system
[15:19] <stephans_> just standard Ubuntu 16.10 + apps
[15:20] <stephans_> installed using: sudo apt install snapd
[15:23] <mup> PR snapcraft#1091 opened: Nop <Created by elopio> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1091>
[23:27] <mup> PR snapd#2741 opened: store: enable download deltas on classic by default <Created by squidsoup> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2741>


[06:23] <tannera> I have this annoying issue with Dolphin where files won't show up. I just downloaded a file called Archive.zip and it refuses to appear in dolphin
[06:23] <tannera> kubuntu 22.04
[06:23] <arraybolt3[m]> tannera: The file isn't names ".Archive.zip" by any chance, is it? (The . at the beginning is important.)
[06:24] <arraybolt3[m]> s/names/named/
[06:24] <tannera> Nope it's not a dotfile, I have it set to show those as well
[06:24] <tannera> it seems random lol
[06:24] <arraybolt3[m]> tannera: And you're able to see it if you do an "ls -a /path/to/folder", right?
[06:24] <arraybolt3[m]> If so, I have an idea.
[06:25] <tannera> Yeah
[06:25] <arraybolt3[m]> tannera: In the folder you downloaded your file in, is there a dotfile named ".hidden" in that folder?
[06:26] <tannera> There isn't
[06:27] <tannera> I'll empty the folder anyway and see if that helps though
[06:30] <arraybolt3[m]> tannera: Maybe Dolphin simply isn't getting notified that the file system has changed. I found a post on Reddit here that might be helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/jbhint/new_files_sometimes_dont_display_in_dolphin/
[07:00] <tannera> arraybolt3[m]: Thanks the refresh button made it appear, I've also turned up max_user_watches a little bit to see if that helps. Much appreciated!
 Is plasma 5.25 update is released for kubuntu?
[09:05] <tannera> K4R7IK_Ku5hw4h4: Seems not. I'm on kubuntu 22.04 and running plasma 5.24.4
[09:17] <fossa_> hi
[09:30] <mparillo> KDE should release 5.24.6 today. 5.24 is an LTS. So they should land soon. 5.24.5 is already in the Kubuntu Backports PPA: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?field.series_filter=jammy
[10:45] <Cymew> I have an issue with unlocking my screen. When I get back to my machine to unlock it, I have to move the pointer to get the login box to appear. Is there a way to do this by just using the keyboard?
[11:15] <kirvesAxe> I have the same problem as Cymew, after some update... some months back, the password prompt was available after pressing something on the keyboard. I am still wondering if this was an intentional change (someone assumed this would increase security etc?) or a random bug when fixing something else...
[12:11] <Cymew> For me it's extra cumbersome as my touchpad doesn't turn on diretcly, so I have to wait for up to half a minute before I can move the pointer and log in.
[12:15] <kirvesAxe> Yeah, and in general I see no point in requiring to move the pointer to be able to logon.
[12:15] <Cymew> Indeed.
[12:24] <arraybolt3[m]> I don't have this problem on Ubuntu Studio 22.04, which is Kubuntu-based IIRC, and an official Ubuntu flavour.
[12:24] <arraybolt3[m]> Maybe this is hardware-related somehow? Does an external keyboard fix the problem?
[12:33] <Cymew> I have the issue on multiple machines, so it might be configuration dependant (which means it can be "fixed") but I doubt it relates to hw.
[12:36] <kirvesAxe> arraybolt3[m], I did not have this problem on the same machine the problem appeared fter installing some update, cannot remember which, but I'm pretty sure this rules out hardware-related problem :)
[12:37] <arraybolt3[m]> You're right. It's a KDE bug, just found it here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433054
[12:38] <arraybolt3[m]> Wait, that might be the wrong bug, some KDE forum member linked to it...
[12:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Looks like that bug has stuff about the problem, though. One mentioned workaround is that pressing Tab four times will get the box to appear.
[12:42] <arraybolt3[m]> It says: 1. Press shift key to wake up the screen lock.  2. Then press tab four times to focus input in the login prompt. Or, just use the mouse (which is not preferable).  3. Enter password
[12:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Actually, I found the real bug report most likely, the top one doesn't look right. Here's the other one that looks more correct: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449857
[12:44] <arraybolt3[m]> This is supposedly fixed in KDE, and the fix just needs backported to 20.04. Maybe I can talk the devs into SRU'ing it in. You might also be able to update to the new Kubuntu 22.04.
[12:47] <Cymew> A Backport would be really sweet.
[12:48] <arraybolt3[m]> Cymew: There's also a fix mentioned in the other bug report I linked to, in comment 57 of the bug report.
[12:48] <Cymew> Hmm. I can't get the login prompt regardless of how much I hammer on tab. Does that work for you kirvesAxe?
[12:51] <Cymew> Editing the qml seems to work for me.
[12:51] <arraybolt3[m]> Cymew, kirvesAxe: Can I please confirm that both of you are using Kubuntu 20.04?
[12:55] <arraybolt3[m]> That will make it easier for me to verify the bug myself and write a bug report.
[12:58] <Cymew> arraybolt3[m]: I'm using vanilla Ubuntu with plasma-desktop package installed. There was not much feedback in the generic #kde channel, so in my case the platform is not strictly kubuntu.
[12:59] <arraybolt3[m]> That's fine. Just knowing if it's 20.04 is enough.
[12:59] <Cymew> It's 20.04
[12:59] <arraybolt3[m]> Thanks. I'll see if I can get things to happen!
[13:00] <Cymew> Thanks.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:27] <rjulio> hi
[14:34] <kirvesAxe> arraybolt3[m], Cymew, tab works, 20.04
 Hello , how can i get the new kde icon for the startbutton on 22.04? Even if i change the theme, it remains at this
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2753e411/file_57952.jpg
 Sorry for this dumb question
[17:54] <cbreak> oskar: right click it
[17:54] <cbreak> select "configure application dashboard"
[19:08] <llutz> Hi, any idea for a script to move all open windows on a plasma-desktop 2560px to the right? All attempts using wmctrl (to get window-ids) and xdotool (to move window 2560 y --relative) failed so far. Usecase: to keep windows on main-monitor (on the right side), even when 2nd monitor is added - unfortunately left-of monitor 1
[19:47] <magic_ninja> tomreyn, so far that seems to be working. It seems that the corectrl repo I added also changed my graphics drivers and created some issues.
[19:51] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: careful with those PPAs - i'm glad it seems to be working well for now.
[19:52] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: you can also run    apt policy <packagename>    to see which versionis installed from where (if an apt source is known for the installed version)
[19:52] <tomreyn> ... and which other versions are available
[19:53] <magic_ninja> good deal. Yea, in the future I'm going to take a closer look at what packages are in the ppa. I didn't look, because I was just thinking it would be reasonable that the corectrl ppa would just contain corectrl and possibly the needed libraries. It's a reasonable assumption, but not an assumption I'll make again.
[19:54] <tomreyn> if you want to try something rather advanced, which also makes it more difficult to understand why apt does what it does, you could look into apt pinning, which lets you set that some packages (or, rather, package versions) from certain repositories should never be installed, even if they're newer than what ubuntu's main repositories provide
[19:54] <magic_ninja> I've pinned packages before, for sure.
[19:54] <magic_ninja> I really try to keep the system as close to the base as possible. I do use the kubuntu beta to get newer releases of plasma, but I'm not a fan of using PPA'
[19:55] <magic_ninja> for system stuff
[20:20] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: me neither. but until a fix lands in jammy - assuming one is really needed - it's probably a good compromise. and oibaf does a great job.
[20:21] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: this said, if you want to test once more that the issue is present with a 'clean' (no related PPAs) jammy but not with oibaf's PPA, and would report a bug against the 'clean' installation, this could hel others (and yourself, too).
[20:22] <tomreyn> a potentially related bug was recently reported at https://launchpad.net/bugs/1981139
[20:26] <magic_ninja> that page doesn't exist
[20:26] <magic_ninja> I think I purged oibaf's ppa, as I was having some issues
[20:39] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: this used to say:  bug #1981139 in libdrm: "Power Management > Energy Saving > Screen Energy Saving: When monitor goes to sleep, it can't be woken" [Undecided, New]
[20:39] <tomreyn> i assume it got turned into a security bug, i can't see it either now
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[00:27] <mhall119> nik90: no worried, code is at https://launchpad.net/~mhall119/+junk/developernews
[04:44] <ttyrec> hello
[04:45] <ttyrec> would someone please suggest me non-professional programmer forum or community?
[06:15] <dholbach> good morning
[06:47] <Wild34> Hi, everybody
[06:49] <Wild34> I have a problem, the ubuntu-sdk didnt configure building toolkit in QtCreator automatically, can enyone help me to find qmake for ubuntu-sdk?
[06:54] <Wild34> damn, I can hardly understand how to ask in irc
[07:03] <popey> dpm: seen https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix-test-issues/+merge/223335 ?
[07:05] <dpm> popey, oh yeah :)
[07:07] <dpm> popey, I'm just looking at the other 2 QML errors for file manager in the logs, and I'm filing bugs for them, but I'm not sure if they relate to the failures (I think they don't)
[07:07] <dpm> Here's one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1330841
[07:11] <dpm> And here's the other one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1330843
[07:26] <liuxg> does anyone know how to send SMS quietly with any UI? thanks
[08:12] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Eat Your Vegetables Day! :-D
[08:13] <justCarakas> haha children love it ;o
[08:13] <justCarakas> :p
[09:17] <nerochiaro> dpm: all system apps that were part of bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/messaging-app/+bug/1318008 have update .desktop files with transltions now, and merge request branches for it, whenever you have time to have a look
[09:20] <dpm> nerochiaro, I saw that, thanks! Sorry I didn't have time yesterday to review, will get to it today
[09:20] <nerochiaro> dpm: thanks !
[10:09] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: when you have a minute, can we talk about the task about adding thumbnail creation timestamp to the db that bill assigned to me ?
[10:10] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, sure, now for example
[10:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, so is that database in the browser and it thumbnails the pages, or are we talking about some other thumbnail cache ?
[10:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: (i just started to look at browser again after probably several months since the last time)
[10:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, it’s not about thumbnails, it’s the bookmarks db
[10:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, what we need is the bookmark creation timestamp to be stored in the db
[10:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, so basically add the field to the db and then store the value when bookmarking, and return some sensible value for the cases when there is no timestamp
[10:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: as we don't want to worry too much about migrating all databases
[10:14] <nerochiaro> of existing users
[10:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, exactly
[10:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, you want to modify src/app/webbrowser/bookmarks-model.[h|cpp], and the corresponding unit tests
[10:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, when there is no timestamp available, I imagine returning epoch should be fine
[10:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: excellent. i'll be on it
[10:32] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I reviewed https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/webbrowser-app-desktop-translation/+merge/223219
[10:50] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: added back some comments, will fix the rest
[10:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I’m not seeing your comments, you need to publish them by commenting on the MR itself
[10:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: bleh, lp messed up, but i think i posted the inline comments now
[10:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i'll look into the rest after lunch
[10:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, still not seeing your answers
[10:57] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I’m seeing the two identical comments on the MR itself, but not the inline ones
[11:41] <Mirv> FYI Qt Creator + plugins now also available on Qt 5.3, so you can upgrade to Qt 5.3 also on desktop without losing functionality. see instructions at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta2 if you want to test
[12:12] <nik90> popey: can you add<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to the trello board pls
[12:16] <popey> nik90: done
[12:16] <nik90> thnx
[12:16] <nik90> dpm: ping
[12:16] <t1mp> elopio: could you review these changes? https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-terminal-app/use_default_get_header/+merge/223217
[14:05] <nik90> popey: I just created a virtual vm for utopic. Should I copy the ssh keys from my laptop to the vm or create new ones?
[14:05] <popey> best practice says make new ones
[14:06] <nik90> ok
[14:10] <t1mp> nik90: which software do you use for your vm?
[14:10] <nik90> t1mp: virtualbox present in the archives
[14:11] <t1mp> nik90: cool. Are you planning on trying out Qt 5.3? If yes, can you have a look at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1330977 and tell us what it does for you in virtualbox?
[14:11] <t1mp> nik90: it seems to work on hardware, but breaks in vmware fusion. No idea about virtualbox
[14:12] <nik90> t1mp: will try, I installed it on a vm to get the latest sdk updates :)
[14:12] <t1mp> nik90: I did the same today to debug uitk with qt53 :)
[14:13] <t1mp> nik90: it won't hurt to install utopic :) but we also have a staging ppa that supports trusty
[14:13] <t1mp> nik90: ^that ppa is still untested for trusty though
[14:13] <nik90> t1mp: well utopic can be unstable sometimes..and this is my main laptop that I use for master thesis..cannot afford for it to go down
[14:14] <nik90> t1mp: I think there was one day where utopic daily image wouldnt boot..that's bad
[14:15] <t1mp> nik90: I understand. I meant that the staging PPA now also supports trusty
[14:16] <t1mp> nik90: btw, what's the topic of your thesis?
[14:17] <t1mp> elopio: hello leo!
[14:17] <nik90> t1mp: I am doing the literature study at the moment, but it is about creating an control algorithm to navigate obstacles for a micro UAV.
[14:17] <t1mp> elopio: good morning, can you review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-terminal-app/use_default_get_header/+merge/223217 :)
[14:18] <t1mp> nik90: are you going to create an ubuntu drone? ;)
[14:18] <nik90> t1mp: ;)...well we do use Linux to communicate with the hardware
[14:19] <t1mp> nik90: sounds interesting
[14:20] <nik90> t1mp: it is..may be at the end I can create a ubuntu touch app for it :)
[14:21] <t1mp> nik90: yeah you can use an ubuntu phone/tablet as a remote control :)
[14:21] <elopio> hello hello
[14:21] <elopio> t1mp: on it.
[14:22] <nik90> yup
[14:22] <t1mp> elopio: thanks. and this too https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/notes-app/remove_get_header/+merge/223218
[14:22] <t1mp> hmm, jenkins doesn't like it
[14:22] <t1mp> but I don't see why
[14:24]  * elopio looks
[14:58] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: should updating a bookmark update the timestamp (if updating them is possible at all)  ?
[14:59] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, there’s no way of updating a bookmark
[14:59] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, a bookmark can be deleted and then recreated
[14:59] <oSoMoN> but that’s all
[15:00] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, to be exact, there’s *currently* no way of doing that, we might want to allow renaming bookmarks in the future
[15:29] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, we'll worry about it when we allow that. thanks
[15:56] <elopio> renato: I can't run the app from your branch. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7659102/
[15:57] <renato> elopio, you need to install the app to run it
[15:58] <elopio> renato: so it's no longer possible to run it from the build dir without installing?
[15:58] <renato> elopio, it works for click packages
[15:58] <renato> Elleo, try tor build with -DCLICK_MODE=On
[15:58] <renato> elopio, ^
[16:01] <popey> balloons: dunno if you saw, we landed filemanager
[16:02] <elopio> renato: no luck. It keeps looking form MainWindow.qml on the installed path, even with the QML2_IMPORT_PATH var.
[16:02] <popey> balloons: would be good to get calendar and music AP tests fixed. Will you have time today to look at those?
[16:03] <elopio> hum, actually it's not looking for it at src/app/share/address-book-app//imports/MainWindow.qml:
[16:04] <elopio> renato: ok, I could install it on the branch dir.
[16:05] <balloons> popey, yes I wasn't able to talk to veebers yesterday, so last night I realized a simple workaround I could do and I pushed it for calendar and tested it.. but pyflakes. .it should land asap.. For music, trying to figure out why it's failing to mock properly, but it's highest priority.
[16:13] <popey> balloons: ok.
[16:55] <t1mp> artmello: hello
[16:55] <artmello> t1mp: hey
[16:56] <t1mp> artmello: I was testing qt5.3 on my nexus 4 and I noticed an invisible header in gallery-app. Did you see that before?
[16:58] <artmello> t1mp: maybe related to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1327189
[16:58] <t1mp> artmello: I have a fix for that one. It fixes the toolbar, but not the header
[16:59] <t1mp> let me see if I can reproduce the header issue on my laptop
[16:59]  * t1mp compiling gallery-app trunk
[17:02] <t1mp> artmello: I also have the bug on my desktop (utopic with qt 5.3): https://www.dropbox.com/s/9719xxfovc5m7ul/Screenshot%202014-06-17%2019.01.35.png
[17:06]  * popey pokes frecel_ with https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1331059
[17:16] <balloons> popey, building rev 324 of calendar with the overflow bug; should be in the store in soon
[17:17] <popey> sweet!
[17:19] <artmello> t1mp: humm I will take a look on that
[17:29] <t1mp> artmello: thanks
[17:36] <elopio> renato: I like the new design very much.
[17:36] <renato> elopio, yes it is great
[17:37] <elopio> renato: I have some comments about the autopilot helpers, but while I was reviewing your branch I wrote them to give them a try. So I'll propose a branch against your soon.
[17:37] <renato> elopio, the header need some work but timp is already working on that
[17:37] <elopio> renato: one thing. I think that the make autopilot cmake task needs to be updated, because now it will complaint about not finding MainWinndow.
[17:38] <renato> elopio, I will try to fix this MainWindow problem
[17:38] <renato> in a future branch
[17:38] <elopio> thanks.
[18:01] <elopio> renato: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/address-book-app/new-visual-contact-editor-autopilot/+merge/223460
[18:05] <renato> elopio, thanks
[19:36] <iBelieve> popey: ping
[19:37] <popey> iBelieve: hey
[19:38] <iBelieve> hi popey, are we still doing the file manager meeting every Tuesday in half an hour? It’s been so long since I’ve been able to make it so I wanted to confirm. Or are we just doing the weekly hangout?
[19:38] <popey> iBelieve: hey, yeah, we do usually do the irc meeting on tuesday. is that a good time for you?
[19:40] <iBelieve> popey: yes, that time works again for me. The event that had come up on tuesdays is now over, so I’ll be able to be at the meetings again
[19:40] <popey> great stuff!
[20:11] <t1mp> popey: I haven't seen vthompson on irc for a while. Could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-terminal-app/use_default_get_header/+merge/223217 ?
[20:11] <popey> t1mp: done
[20:11] <t1mp> popey: that's fast, thanks
[20:12] <t1mp> popey: will it be merged automatically now?
[20:12] <popey> ya, should be.
[20:12] <t1mp> great, thanks.
[20:16] <popey> np
[20:17] <popey> t1mp: i looked at it earlier but forgot to hit the approval button ☻
[20:40] <ahayzen> Hey, any SDK people around who can help me investigate a performance issue?


[12:40] <kim0> stas: hey there .. how are ya
[12:41] <stas> kim0: hey
[12:41] <stas> good, whats up
[12:41] <kim0> great
[12:41] <kim0> got a little question
[12:41] <kim0> basically .. I have no control over when the side bar shows
[12:41] <kim0> It shows on the posts page only
[12:41] <kim0> How do I change that
[12:42] <stas> you want it to appear on pages too?
[12:42] <kim0> stas: it'd be ideal if that were configurable with the widget context plugin ?
[12:43] <kim0> stas: I was it to appear on the front page which is not the posts page
[12:43] <kim0> s/was/want/
[12:44] <stas> the initial idea was to not use sidebar on pages, so you will need to comment a line of code in functions.php and modify 2 lines of CSS
[12:44] <stas> but that's up to you, I don't want it changes
[12:44] <stas> changed
[12:44] <kim0> I understand
[12:45] <stas> imho there's enough navigation stuff even on pages
[12:45] <stas> if you want i can show you the lines
[12:45] <stas> you need to modify
[12:45] <kim0> yes please do
[12:45] <kim0> a diff would be great :)
[12:46] <stas> See functions.php line #137 and #147
[12:46] <stas> modify the if() argument to true
[12:46] <stas> that should show up the sidebars
[12:48] <kim0> what's is_home()
[12:48] <stas> the blog page
[12:48] <stas> it checks if this is the blog page it shows sidebar
[12:48] <stas> in css
[12:48] <stas> look at lines
[12:48] <stas> #84-#93
[12:49] <stas> comment them and leave a single line where #container is 650px;
[12:49] <stas> should work
[12:49] <stas> same for #content
[12:50] <stas> or you can remove them and modify line #82, #83
[12:50] <stas> change the width
[12:50] <stas> thats all
[12:50] <stas> thats in style.css
[12:50]  * stas brb food
[13:03]  * stas back
[13:10] <kim0> stas: the php is working fine .. css is not .. I commented lines 84-93 and basically not sure what 2 other lines to put
[13:12] <kim0> so right now the right bar starts after the page is finished
[13:14] <kim0> stas: oh I edited lines 82,83 as you said .. now it looks fine ..
[13:14] <kim0> I made the width 640px .. not sure what the optimal value would be ?
[13:15] <stas> lines #82, #83, put width from the commented lines
[13:15] <kim0> ah 650px then .. thanks
[13:16] <kim0> css is totally not my thing :)
[13:42] <kim0> stas: is there any example on using the "slider" javascript code in your theme .. I wanna play with it
[13:43] <stas> kim0: try this uri
[13:43] <stas> http://rivalry.nerd.ro/
[13:43] <stas> its my local machine
[13:43] <kim0> cool
[13:47] <stas> kim0: checkout the footer
[13:47] <stas> basically this website uses all the theme features
[13:49] <kim0> stas: so the 5 js loaded in the <head> are not needed for me ?
[13:50] <stas> depends
[13:50] <stas> 3 of them are required
[13:50] <stas> jquery, corners and loco.js
[13:51] <stas> fancybox is my plugins script
[13:51] <stas> so ignore it
[13:51] <stas> so there are 4 js one of them is slider
[13:53] <kim0> stas: is that slider code something standard ?
[13:53] <kim0> or did u code it urself
[14:27] <stas> !ping
[14:27] <ubot4`> pong
[14:27] <stas> !google nimo slider
[14:27] <ubot4`> stas: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:28] <stas> kim0: http://nivo.dev7studios.com/
[17:30] <newz2000> hi, did I miss anything good?
[17:48] <newz2000> I'm seeing great progress on the countdowns


 So apparently k3b wasn't added to the group "cdrom" and k3b wasn't built with the helper tool to change that in Kubuntu 18.04
 So now the disc burning tool can't burn
 https://i.imgur.com/Yo0JBBg.png
 In honor of #StarWars Day, I have uploaded Starwars A New Hope to my Website for your (free) viewing pleasure. Enjoy - https://kmyers.me/video-player/sw-new-hope-1080p/
 Is it the ASCII version
 @chuckr, No, not even sure if there is an ASCII version in 1080p
 ... wow XD that -still- caught me off guard
 I was expecting -something-
 but that caught me off guard
 @RazPi, We've known each other for so long
 Aaaaigh again
 @RazPi, Admit it. You wouldn't get this from any other guy
 Google+ post by  …      Adam Outler   … https://plus.google.com/+AdamOutler/posts/bwpqvJ3foqC
 You should change the text and add a proper picture thumbnail
 @AdamOutler, You should kill the text preview
 we on for tomorrow?
 @KMyers
 @KMyers - I am game
 did you just tag yourself?
 Naybe he wasn't sure if he was and he was just letting himself know.
 Maybe*
 No clue what he was thinking
 What's tomorrow?
 We are going to a few electronic stores that @ghbd0wn told Joel about
 then probably sushi


[01:16] <zerothis1> nfs once worked for me but ever since trusty I can't seem to make it work. I just want to share one folder on my network to me other linuxum systems
[05:02] <mijowh> hello i've just installed lubuntu, still getting used to linux. trying to get rid of extraneous packages that came by default that are unnecessary. Why do i have both lubuntu software center and synaptic package manager? they both seem to serve the same purpose. could i just uninstall lubuntu software center? I usuallly use apt-file and apt-get anyway
[05:03] <mijowh> I don't understand why I have two different guis for package management
[05:04] <ianorlin> mijowh: lubuntu software-center is easier for new users to which synaptic could be confusing
[05:04] <ianorlin> actually synaptic doesn't take that much space up
[05:04] <ianorlin> on disk or on install
[05:04] <mijowh> so uninstalling lubuntu wont break anything?
[05:05] <mijowh> i like synaptics interface more anyway
[05:05] <ianorlin> no uninstalling lubuntu-software-center won't break anything although you shouuld problably reinstall lubuntu desktop if you want to upgrade
[05:05] <ianorlin> as that is just a metapackage
[05:06] <mijowh> uninstalling software center will remove that also?
[05:06] <mijowh> because i do plan on making use of synaptics updater
[05:08] <ianorlin> lubuntu-desktop basically is a package that gives you all the other stuff the lubunt install contains
[05:10] <mijowh> Hm. I've already removed quite a bit that I knew I wouldn't ever use and have been installing ym preferred apps. would you compare lubuntu-desktop to a package "group" (from archlinux, like the gnome group including alot of different gnome stuff) because i think i understand that
[05:12] <ianorlin> lubuntu-desktop is what is known as a metapackage and bascially has a dependecy on stuff that it brings in so say if you wanted to install this you could only install say one thing in synaptic or the command line rather than having to select each package individually
[05:14] <mijowh> I see. emacs would be another one of these metapackages then, that depends on the actual emacs packages, so that installation/removal is simpler. thanks i think i understand
[06:06] <ianorlin> yes like for the game battle for wesnoth there is one that brings in like all the core campiangs
[06:09] <mijowh> thank you for the advice, appreciate it. Maybe you could also answer me this: my desktop is extended vertically (single monitor). What I mean by this is that if i mouse to the top of the screen, it scrolls, as if the screen was taller than it actually is
[06:09] <mijowh> how can i get it to all fit?
[06:09] <mijowh> instead of having to scroll to see the tops of windows
[06:11] <ianorlin> is this not in a virtual machine?
[06:11] <mijowh> no its not
[06:11] <mijowh> ive never seen this before, but ive never used lxde before
[06:12] <mijowh> like it fits perfectly horizontally, but vertically its like theres an extra 2 inches
[06:12] <mijowh> and i have to mouse to the top or bottom to "scroll" the entire screen
[06:12] <mijowh> how do i adjust resolution? - i know, stupid question
[06:12] <mijowh> im thinking it may be video drivers
[06:12] <ianorlin> from the menu prefrences monitor settings
[06:13] <mijowh> ive been having issues with my outdated geforce 8400
[06:14] <ianorlin> mijowh: which driver are you using noveau?
[06:14] <mijowh> ah, it was screen resolution, thank you. and I'm unsure, whatever would be the default
[06:15] <mijowh> how do i check? It's embarassing asking questions that are probably so simple, but I'm new to the world of linux. been a windows only user forever
[06:15] <ianorlin> mijowh: which version of lubuntu you could try the save button if 15.04 or newer
[06:16] <mijowh> 15.10, newest version
[06:16] <ianorlin> ah yeah in menu prefrences monitor settings there sohuld be a save button
[06:17] <mijowh> under additional drivers in meu preferences, it says i am using no proprietary drivers
[06:18] <ianorlin> in the montior settings there should be a save button
[06:18] <mijowh> yes noveua
[06:18] <mijowh> yeah i saved my settings
[06:19] <mijowh> since it works ill leave as is for now, ive got a new graphics card coming in the mail. no point in messing with the driver atm
[06:19] <mijowh> thank you again
[06:21] <mijowh> now, i like to use apt-get autoremove to keep my packages clean, but I'm foreseeing an issue with some of my code that uses boost. It's the only thing on my system that needs boost, but its not a package, just an executable, so i dont imagine the package manager would be aware that boost is actually being used, and upon an autoremove, would uninstall it. Is there a way to inform the system about what libraries my app depends on, so the
[06:21] <mijowh> unless i misunderstand how packages work
[06:22] <ianorlin> mijowh: I am not expirenced with programming with boost
[06:22] <ianorlin> although I think with 15.10 I remember someone talking about it being recompiled against gcc5
[06:23] <mijowh> well, any library really doesnt need to be boost. I just noticed that any lib that doesnt have any packages that have it as a dependency will be uninstalled with apt-get autoremove
[06:23] <mijowh> my code isnt a "package", its just a compiled executable, and so i dont think the package manager will be aware of my dependency on library XYZ
[06:23] <mijowh> and will remove it thinking its not used
[06:24] <mijowh> does that make sense?
[06:26] <mijowh> i think this answers my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149768/mark-a-deb-package-as-used-so-its-not-suggested-for-autoremoval
[06:57] <mijowh> btw the answer to my earlier question about packaging an app was answered in #ubuntu, all i needed was this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910717 thanks again for the help guys
[06:58] <mijowh> if anybody was also curious, idk
[10:36] <Paulo> bom dia
[10:38] <Paulo> estava aqui navegando e as paginas com criptografia estão aparecendo obsoleta,ate as de banco,o que pode ser
[19:39] <Langley> How do I get HVEC to play in Lubuntu? Adding the lubde265 repository, it 404s on the package lists
[19:41] <Langley> Oh VLC can play it, nice
[19:42] <genii> You must be on Wily, that PPA was last updated 16 weeks ago so it has up to Vivid but not yet Wily
[19:44] <Langley> VLC is fine... I just can't find it in the list of programs, when trying to set it as default for videos
[19:49] <ianorlin> Langley: in default apps for lxsession?
[19:49] <ianorlin> Langley: if you have downloaded a video file in pcmanfm the file manager try right click open with and sleect vlc and then pcmanfm will open with that file type
[20:55] <Langley> ianorlin: VLC doesn't show up in either... maybe I need to restart?
[21:01] <ianorlin> Langley: maybe log out
[21:34] <Langley> Even though I set Chromium to be the default browser, links from Pidgin still open in Firefox
[21:58] <alkisg> Hi, I'm trying to install lubuntu-desktop in a chroot and it's trying to also install unity-greeter and other unity-related stuff
[21:59] <alkisg> Those unity* packages are not installed in lubuntu normally though
[21:59] <alkisg> So I'm not sure what's going on... lubuntu-desktop recommends unity but the cd seeds blacklist it?!
[21:59] <alkisg> I'm reluctant to use --no-install-recommends in case it prevents other important packages from being pulled in
[22:00] <redwolf> alkisg, unity-greeter or lightdm-gtk-greeter
[22:00] <redwolf> unity-greeter is not included in the package list
[22:00] <alkisg> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop does pull it though
[22:00] <redwolf> try first with lubuntu-core
[22:00] <alkisg> I'm trying to find the exact dependency chain that does that
[22:00] <redwolf> but anyway that requirement is odd
[22:00] <alkisg> lubuntu-core as well, pulls unity-greeter
[22:00] <redwolf> odd
[22:01] <alkisg> It's in 14.04/armhf if it matters
[22:01] <Unit193> alkisg: apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^
[22:01] <alkisg> Thanks, trying..
[22:02] <alkisg> Unit193: the same, unity-greeter, unity-settings-daemon etc are again included there
[22:03] <Unit193> Odd, but not surprising as the Lubuntu ISO is built without recommends.  I'd install the task (lubuntu-desktop^) without recommends then.
[22:03] <alkisg> That does make sense, thank you, I'll do that after pinpointing the exact package
[22:04] <alkisg> (just out of curiosity)
[22:05] <alkisg> ..probably lightdm...
[22:06] <Unit193> alkisg: ...Actually, try both the core and desktop tasks at the same time.
[22:07] <alkisg> Yeah lightdm needs to put a Recommends: unity-greeter | kde_greeter etc | lubuntu-greeter at the end
[22:07] <alkisg> It lacks the | ubuntu-greeter
[22:07] <alkisg> *lubuntu-greeter
[22:07] <alkisg> (however that is called... checking...)
[22:08] <alkisg> lightdm-gtk-greeter
[22:08] <alkisg> So I'll install lightdm --no-install-recommends first, and check again lubuntu-desktop after that
[22:11] <alkisg> Yup, that did it. A bug report should be filed against lightdm, to save people that start with chroots/server cds to avoid unity :)
[22:11] <alkisg> *save ... from installing unity
[22:13] <alkisg> Then again, it now pulls software-properties-gtk and other packages, so I'll just use the task^ and --no-recommends variant that good Unit193 proposed to me :)
[22:16] <alkisg> Thanks a lot guys
[23:30] <Unit193> It does actually, with 'lightdm-greeter'


 I have only used virt manager for a long time
[02:20] <wxl[m]> @lynorian have you seen that picom bug? I wonder how kvm deals with it
[02:34] <lynorian[m]> 𝖜𝖝𝖑: bug does not appear on my one bios vm of mantic I have right now
[02:35] <wxl[m]> lynorian[m]: And efi?
[02:38] <lynorian[m]> don't have one yet will try it soon
[02:43] <wxl[m]> Please leave a note on the bug report
[03:07] <lynorian[m]> no need for uefi shell to boot on virt-manager so I think that might be a virtualbox problem
[03:08] <wxl[m]> Yeah well that didn’t happen the first time I had the issue so I think that was probably some fluke
[03:29] <lynorian[m]> uefi on virt-manager I don't get crashes
[03:34] <wxl[m]> Harumph
 Ran several tests today see the updated bug report (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl[m]> Please leave a note on the bug report)
[15:22] <wxl[m]> Argh randomness
 Yep.exactly the testing experience since the first reports..no way to reproduce ... (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl[m]> Argh randomness)
[17:06] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230622)