[14:51] <phao> Hey. I've just set a new keyboard shortcut... but it doesn't seem to work. Is simply going to the keyboard item in the system configuration panel, and then shortcuts tab, and then adding a new shortcut with the '+' button enough?
[14:52] <linuxlite1983> salsero_,  how do i fin a update server minorr list?
[14:53] <kupo_> open synaptic and go to respistories section
[14:54] <kupo_> you'll see a list. i usually just stick with american server myself
[14:54] <linuxlite1983> updates take forever. how do i speed them up?
[14:54] <kupo_> well. updates working fine for me. just got 2 MB speed
[14:54] <salsero_> if you're not in the USA, you might find useful to choose one close to you
[14:55] <linuxlite1983> utusan,  well thats why im tryin to include a differnct server.
[14:56] <utusan> or find one that is low user like say mongolia?  he he he
[14:56] <linuxlite1983> kupo_,  that american server is giving me 55kbs slower then dialup!
[14:57] <angch> Dunno how official, but: http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt
[14:57] <linuxlite1983> utusan,  then how do i find a server list so i can change it?
[14:57] <utack> would rather install ubuntu in uefi mode or in legacy mode? i have to make a decision and i don't know what is better
[14:57] <angch> should show you the mirrors geo closest (?) to you.
[14:58] <lawnewbie> do you know how to change the theme of taskbar?
[14:58] <linuxlite1983> utack,  google it before you do, then try them both with a differnct instal for each option
[14:58] <utack> linuxlite1969, google results were "both work". but nothing specific about upsides and downsides
[14:59] <angch> linuxlite1969, then from that list of mirrors, update your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly.
[14:59] <utack> last i had uefi and it worked. so i guess i will choose it again
[15:01] <linuxlite1983> angch, well us server and the main server are listed ,but im trying to add more to option,manually.
[15:02] <utusan> linuxlite1983: ususally servers are http://<country_code>.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:02] <angch> linuxlite1983, (wait, why so many linuxlites?) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors pick one
[15:03] <linuxlite1983> angch,  lol that just one person , me
[15:04] <linuxlite3> hi
[15:04] <angch> x-chat is horrible at autocompleting similar names....
[15:04] <DanC> if I do `ssh host1`, shouldn't it check in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts? er... oh... maybe I set the permissions wrong...
[15:05] <salsero_> it should
[15:05] <mheinke> morning!
[15:05] <DanC> I did `sudo cp ssh_known_hosts /etc/ssh` ... so it was only readable by root. silly me.
[15:05] <linuxlite3> DanC,  alot of the goodly skill person are away.. come back in 4-16 hours to find more ppl that can answer you.
[15:05] <salsero_> you should utack
[15:06] <DanC> I'm all set. thanks.
[15:06] <utack> salsero_, you think uefi is the right choice if it worked before?
[15:06] <linuxlite3> i am a noob
[15:06] <salsero_> ye
[15:06] <utack> ok thx
[15:06] <salsero_> i migrated to uefi recently from msdos mode
[15:06] <linuxlite3> try it if you dont have nothing much to lose
[15:07] <angch> interesting. http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/the-apt-mirror-method/ didn't know this.
[15:08] <Mikerhinos> hi
[15:10] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i downloaded the ubuntu iso, and the SHA256SUM file and the .GPG whne typing it gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS i keep getting gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[15:12] <viccuad> is there a package to select to install an ubuntu gnome in an ubuntu server?
[15:12] <lawnewbie> hei i have a question :D anybody can help me ?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> lawnewbie  let's hear it
[15:13] <bigred15> Depends on the question :)
[15:13] <salsero_> viccuad: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:13] <dutchuss2016> does any one know how i can get unity web player working on kubuntu
[15:13] <viccuad> salsero_: it seems is ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[15:13] <lawnewbie> before i used Ubuntu, i used Windows 7. my laptop if i use to long time, dont heat anymore.
[15:13] <RayXbmc> Greetings, can someone tell me what process I need to bounce to refresh  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:13] <lawnewbie> but, when i used ubuntu, the heat to fast to increase
[15:14] <viccuad> is that enough to replicate an ubuntu gnome desktop, or do I need to do something more?
[15:14] <RayXbmc> I don't want to reboot my machine each time I want to test a new setting change inside the file  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:14] <salsero_> that should be it
[15:14] <francy> ciao
[15:14] <kern> I can't figure out how to autostart redis on the ubuntu vagrant cloud image for 14.04
[15:14] <viccuad> salsero_: thanks
[15:14] <kern> everything seems fine but redis just does not start
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> kern  #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[15:14] <kern> kk
[15:15] <francy> ciao
[15:15] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie: Windows 7 doesn't heat laptops....(most of the time), it heated because of the @#$ flash plugin inside any browser.....
[15:15] <francy> ciao
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> francy  it works, we see you
[15:15] <RayXbmc> Anybody here can tell which process to restart to refresh policy ? (e. /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy)
[15:15] <lawnewbie> but i used flash plugin when i with Windows
[15:16] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie, that's why it heated..... it's not windows 7....
[15:16] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I downloaded the Ubuntu iso and am trying to follow (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM) these instructions in order to check the SHA256SUMS and instead of getting Good Signature it keeps suggesting that the public key cannot be found how can I go about getting Ubuntus Public Key
[15:16] <floq> hello
[15:16] <lawnewbie> RayXbmc: so thats not my laptop problem right?
[15:16] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,   Trust me, I have been using windows since windows 3.0 ( ms dos), windows 7 is actually one of the good operating system in all windows releases..... after sp3 it's stable for windows world....
[15:17] <francy> hello
[15:17] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie: it's easy to know when a laptop heat...look in your task manager, see the process going 100 % cpu and if it's IE or mozilla , then mostly it's flash...disable the flash plugin... if the cpu goes down...you found the problem.
[15:18] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,   Anyody here familiar with policy process in ubuntu...(e.g.  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy)
[15:18] <lawnewbie> ohh, thanks Ray, i think the problem is on my Ice Cool. thanks for information :D
[15:19] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,  ice cool ?
[15:19] <francy> 안녕하세요
[15:19] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,  uh ?
[15:19] <francy> cześć
[15:20] <lawnewbie> my laptop have Ice Cool, so it not easy to heat
[15:22] <Quitifolen> hi
[15:23] <lawnewbie> hi Quiti
[15:23] <Quitifolen> hi lawney
[15:23] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am using Ubuntu 12.04.4 when is it going to be time to upgrade for me to 14.04?
[15:24] <lawnewbie> same like me psil0 :D
[15:24] <Psil0Cybin> xD
[15:24] <Psil0Cybin> times a waiting :D
[15:26] <lawnewbie> yeah, why u want to upgrade ur OS ?
[15:26] <Quitifolen> tomorrow  14.04 is released:
[15:26] <Quitifolen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[15:27] <k1l> Psil0Cybin: i am not sure if the LTS to LTS upgrade path will only be opened after 14.04.1 is released
[15:28] <RayXbmc> Greetings, can someone tell me what process I need to bounce to refresh  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:30] <didier_> hello
[15:36] <jhutchins> k1l: One would think they would have wanted to test that before the release.
[15:36] <jhutchins> k1l: I know the EFI installer isn't 100% yet.
[15:37] <k1l> jhutchins: the upgrade get automated testing (besides the bug reports from users). but officially 14.04 will be LTS when comming to 14.04.1. the 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade path was opened when 12.04 became 12.04.1, too
[15:38] <RayXbmc> Greetings, can someone tell me what process I need to bounce to refresh  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:40] <sakang> dpkg-reconfigure policykit?
[15:47] <linuxlite3> HOW TO SET UP FTP SERVER AND CLIENT OVER LAN?
[15:47] <Membear> keep yelling and it will just happen
[15:48] <k1l> linuxlite1969: no need for caps
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: why ftp? Its garbage
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: what OS is the server, what OS is the client?
[15:52] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  im trying to move my files and this is just a temp os linux lite base on ubuntu 12.04
[15:52] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  im trying to move my files and this is just a temp os linux lite base on ubuntu 12.04 32 bit  i5
[15:54] <User895> stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys & queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; andrew jenkins aka andrea hylton/tranny
[15:54] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  i have 18 gb+ to move
[15:54] <bigred15> I wouldn't be trying to move 18GB over FTP :\
[15:54] <linuxlite3> y?
[15:55] <linuxlite3> atm i have to wait a week or so to make my rounds with dropbox.
[15:55] <linuxlite3> bigred15,  this is over lan
[15:55] <k1l> just use a usb-stick or a ext hdd
[15:55] <k1l> or use samba, or nfs
[15:56] <llutz> or rsync/ssh
[15:56] <linuxlite3> well this is my 2-4 time trying to set it up.. :C im a nooob mess
[15:57] <k1l> llutz: well yes. that is what i would use, but most user dont like cli
[15:57] <linuxlite3> im trying to move this to a win7  im on ubuntu
[15:57] <linuxlite3> well if it does the job then show me
[15:57] <llutz> k1l: grsync exists
[15:57] <k1l> !samba | linuxlite3
[15:58] <linuxlite3> yeah thats not going to work. i have read a small book on these  and i still fail
[15:58] <linuxlite3> :C
[15:59] <Guest6010> Hello, I've got a quick question! wondered if someone may be able to help
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: what OS is the server, what OS is the client?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: on the ubuntu system what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: ask away
[16:01] <Guest6010> I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04, I've setup vsftpd many times before however since this fresh install, chroot_local_user=YES isn't locking users to their home directory?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: is there no scope for sftp?
[16:01] <Guest6010> hello
[16:01] <Guest6010> scope?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: do you have to use ftp?
[16:02] <Guest6010> Yep
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: sigh :(
[16:02] <Guest6010> what else would you suggest?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: ftp is garbage, wasteful and unsecure.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: sftp by default will start at $HOME for the user and connections are secure
[16:03] <k1l> !sftp | Guest6010
[16:04] <salsero__> ftp in the lan is quite ok
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> salsero__: oh yeah but openssh-server and done is nice :)
[16:05] <Guest6010> haha i do have openssh setup
[16:06] <Guest6010> however one of our internall systems (extremely old) can only output to external systems via sftp
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: how are you managing your server then, you got a screen on it staring at a black and white screen?
[16:06] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  im trying to move my files and this is just a temp os linux lite base on ubuntu 12.04 32 bit  i5
[16:06] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  i have 18 gb+ to move
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: linuxlite is not supported here
[16:07] <viccuad> Hi, my ubuntu server install just hangs looking for other operative systems...
[16:07] <Guest6010> Like i say, i'm sorta stuck with sftp due to an internal system
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: there are countless ubuntu based distributions and they are equally not supported here
[16:07] <linuxlite3> huh? that like saying  gnome is no longer supported either. its just a DE on top of ubuntu 12.04
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: sftp is great
[16:08] <serin38> is it possible to chown -R 770 user:group directory?
[16:08] <Guest6010> just wondered why chroot_local_user=YES isn't behaving correctly
[16:08] <serin38> I know that doesn't work, but is there a variation that does?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: gnome is in the official repos and is the default desktop in Ubuntu, so is supported here
[16:08] <Pici> serin38: you need to split that into separate commands. chmod and chown
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: this channel is for packages from the ubuntu repos running on Canonical released distributions
[16:09] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  will its just ubuntu with a differnt desktop eviroment
[16:09] <serin38> Pici: I'll try that, thanks
[16:09] <Pici> serin38: also, Are you sure that you want the execute bit set on every file inside of that directory?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: equally, Ubuntu is based on Debian. Debian is also not suported here and ubuntu is not supported in #debian
[16:09] <streulma> hello, someone know why Virtualbox always crash when stopping a VM? It's on 12.04.4LTS and 13.10. It is version 3.10.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: its a different distribution and is not released by Canonical so is not supported here
[16:09] <serin38> Pici: 770 is read write execute by owner group only, right?
[16:09] <OerHeks> linuxlite3, you might want to join  #linuxlite for support
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: its that clean cut
[16:09] <Pici> serin38: Yes
[16:10] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  have  i been away that long ?
[16:10] <serin38> Pici: is it bad to execute the bit set on every file?
[16:10] <serin38> Pici: with 770
[16:10] <Chewy64> backup?
[16:10] <Pici> serin38: It is poor practice to have it set on any file that doesn't need it.
[16:10] <linuxlite3> :C i have been waits for hrs now. not much but tumble weeds
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: linuxlite has an entirely seperate support community, forums and irc channels from Ubuntu. It may use the packages and there is nothing to stop that happening but the distros like Mint, Backtrack, Pinguy and so on are not supported herere
[16:11] <OerHeks> Chewy64, backup what?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: its always been this way
[16:11] <serin38> Pici: what's a good default for others that don't need it?
[16:12] <Pici> serin38: depending on what you're doing, just read and write will do just fine.
[16:12] <Xanather> hi, should i worry if i mistakenly filled up a ubuntu OS while it was running (0 bytes left on hard drive)
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Xanather: sudo apt-get clean   is a good start
[16:12] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  so that it? im after the ubuntu package, if i get them somewere else i would but no ones home in the irc
[16:12] <Xanather> well thats what it said atleast heh
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: linuxlite is offtopic and not supported here
[16:12] <salsero__> Xanather: ye
[16:13] <Chewy64> OerHeks, Maybe it was a different channel, but there was a bot that had links to some good backup info for an entire disk.
[16:13] <OerHeks> linux lite turns out to be heavy
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: redhat also uses Firefox web browser but RedHat support is separate from Ubuntu's
[16:13] <salsero__> which file system was it?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: many applications are common
[16:13] <OerHeks> !backup
[16:13] <OerHeks> !clone
[16:13] <serin38> Pici: what's the bit set for read / write? 66(0???)
[16:14] <linuxlite3> !rules
[16:14] <Chewy64> OerHeks, Thanks!
[16:16] <Pici> serin38: yes. but remember you need directories themselves to have +x
[16:17] <winegoddess> I set up a virtual machine on VMWare. i have allocated 100G. but i am running out of space to install Android source. when i do a df - h it seems only has 40G - my Mac has 200G available... any ideas?
[16:17] <winegoddess> http://bit.ly/1hLOm6S
[16:17] <AlphonseElric> I'm having issues with my Broadcom 4311 wireless controller on Lubuntu 13.10 :-/
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> !derivatives  | linuxlite3
[16:19] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: np
[16:19] <zedzdead> Sup
[16:20] <serin38> Pici: Thanks for the help
[16:20] <AlphonseElric> hey zedzdead I don't know if you remember me from last night I had the screenname Dante at the time
[16:21] <zedzdead> I yeah I remember. Did you fix your problem
[16:21] <AlphonseElric> I did a clean install of Lubuntu 13.10 but my Broadcom 4311 Wireless Controller isn't working
[16:22] <AlphonseElric> Lubuntu is a lot lighter and works well with this processor but unfortunately I have to get to the internet through thethering
[16:22] <zedzdead> Darn. Did you install drivers
[16:22] <AlphonseElric> last night I tried instaling b43 cutter and the b43 installer but it still didn't work zedzdead. Also, it only seems to come up in PCI cards when I click on the bluetooth manager
[16:23] <winegoddess> Im using Ubunto 13.10 - i don't know why i am not getting the space i allocated form vmware, any ideas?
[16:23] <OerHeks> !bcm
[16:23] <winegoddess> ubuntu
[16:23] <Macintrasher> Lurking, don't mind me.
[16:24] <zedzdead> I am minding you
[16:24] <zedzdead> :p
[16:25] <AlphonseElric> ubottu: I'll try it one more time in case I messed up last night
[16:25] <AlphonseElric> oh well there's that lol
[16:25] <Macintrasher> well, if you want to, that's fine.  waiting for 12.04 to d/l.
[16:25] <OerHeks> AlphonseElric, you need the STA driver > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#A12.04_.28Precise_Pangolin.29_-_12.10_.28Quantal_Quetzal.29
[16:27] <AlphonseElric> Well it work even if at the moment Lubuntu doesn't know it's there OerHeks? I'm afraid that if I click on Bluetooth manager and it's recognized that it will use a driver that I'm unaware of and I'll have the same problems as last night
[16:27] <Runciter> Does anybody know an italian channel where can i have help about nmap, ettercap etc etc?
[16:27] <Macintrasher> using ubuntu right after installing it isn't too bad, it's installing proprietary drivers. I'm reading up on it elsewhere before asking anything specific.
[16:28] <Pici> Runciter: you could start in #ubuntu-it
[16:28] <Runciter> Pici, yes, i know, but they speaks only about OS and nothing else
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Macintrasher: why GPU do you use?
[16:29] <posthuman> exim4 sends messages in a ways that recipients see my local username instead of my mailaddress ... what do i need to change !?
[16:29] <Pici> Runciter: maybe the folks in ##networking have a better idea?
[16:29] <Macintrasher> with this test build, Radeon HD 5670.  gonna d/l the drivers now.
[16:29] <Runciter> Pici, thanks, i'll try here
[16:30] <llutz> posthuman: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-address_rewriting.html
[16:30] <Macintrasher> actually, I'll wait till I get ubuntu on the other machine first.
[16:31] <zedzdead> Should I install Gentoo?
[16:32] <DJones> zedzdead: You're asking in #ubuntu, thats something you need to ask in the gentoo support channels
[16:33] <oscalation> the ubuntu startup sound contest from 2012 for ubuntu 12.04, those were never included with ubuntu right?
[16:33] <zedzdead> DJones no
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Macintrasher: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> oscalation: i always disable that, nothing more annoying than redundant system sounds
[16:35] <oscalation> ActionParsnip: do you remember the contest canonical had for startup sounds?
[16:35] <AlphonseElric> Now my bluetooth portion isn't working at all after the STA
[16:36] <oscalation> ActionParsnip: i ask because I was reading this http://nathanheafner.com/home/2014/04/16/new-ubuntu-startup-sounds-from-sam-hulick-mass-effect-now-available/
[16:36] <oscalation> ActionParsnip: i had forgot all about that content referenced in the article
[16:37] <viccuad> does ubuntu save the network config after the install??
[16:37] <Macintrasher> @ActionParsnip One sec, about to burn the ISO.
[16:38] <twirm__> viccuad, did you change some network configs on the live cd?
[16:39] <MASBRO> im having trouble using ftp on ubuntu to share with windows
[16:39] <Macintrasher> I was using 13.10, but I'm gonna switch to 12.04 for the long-term support.
[16:40] <viccuad> twirm__: well, I tried an ubuntu-gnome live cd, it hanged on the 2nd step(unrelated), debugged it looking at /var/log/installer/debug, checked the checksum(it was fine), ditched it, went on an ubuntu server install, installed it with network set up by DHCP, and now here I am
[16:41] <viccuad> and if you try a debian or fedora image, it installs
[16:41] <code_> shall ubuntu 14.4 be available tomorrow on ubuntu website?   yes or no
[16:41] <Pici> code_: 14.04 will be
[16:41] <kupo_> it's on website now
[16:41] <kupo_> all of the releases
[16:41] <Pici> kupo_: no, the ISOs are still being tested
[16:41] <code_> Pici: ty
[16:42] <MASBRO> whats different about 14.04?
[16:42] <k1l> kupo_: please wait until the official announce
[16:42] <kupo_> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/314/builds
[16:42] <kupo_> there's like for testers. pretty much same. if you need
[16:43] <kupo_> sorries
[16:43] <k1l> kupo_: please stop. dont advice to use non-final releases in here
[16:44] <viccuad> can anyone bare with me why I have spent 2 days trying to install ubuntu in any flavour possible, but it justs refuses? oh, and the system gets to install debian or fedora fine
[16:45] <code_> is it true that for 23 bit more software available than 64?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> code_: there are some apps that are 32bit only, like skype
[16:45] <k1l> code_: no. ubuntu uses multiarch
[16:46] <Macintrasher> installing 12.04 now.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> code_: multiarch deal swith that too, just like windows can run 32bit apps in 64bit
[16:46] <code_> ActionParsnip, that means i'm advised to download 32 version to gain such features?
[16:47] <k1l> code_: if your hardware can run 64bit there is no reason not to use it
[16:47] <code_> kil:my machine is 64 bit
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> code_: gain such features as what?
[16:48] <code_> as skype for example
[16:48] <k1l> code_: then go for 64bt
[16:48] <k1l> *bit
[16:48] <k1l> code_: skype runs on 64bit ubuntu
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> code_: skype installed on 64bit will use maore drive space as it has to pull in more deps to make it work
[16:49] <code_> so you advice me to use ubuntu 64 tomorrow?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> code_: install it and use it, its the same as 32bit ubuntu
[16:50] <code_> ok ty guys .. i will download 64 bit
[16:50] <Xanather> guys what does the ./autogen.sh command do?
[16:50] <Xanather> and ./configure
[16:50] <Xanather> for building
[16:53] <MASBRO> is there a way to manually set my ip and subnet?
[16:53] <balleyne> I'm having trouble in Ubuntu 13.10, can't recognize my dvd device. There's no /dev/dvd. I've also tried /dev/sr0. Disk doesn't appear in Nautilus. Things were working just two weeks ago when running 13.04. Any thoughts on how I can debug?
[16:54] <viccuad> fuck you ubuntu, 2 days trying to install and fedora and debian work at the first try
[16:54] <viccuad> don't worry, I will show myself the exit
[16:56] <bekks> MASBRO: Sure.
[16:56] <MASBRO> how do i go by doin that?
[16:57] <bekks> MASBRO: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/networking.html
[16:57] <Ivis> Hi, i have hybrid graphics and i have installed bumblebee but when i run "lspci | grep VGA" i see only integrated card, please help.
[16:58] <MASBRO> no gui way?
[16:58] <nispr0> how do I match files  with filename that I am going to move?
[16:58] <breakfast_> Mornin' y'all.
[16:58] <k1l> MASBRO: doesnt networkmanager got an option for that? did you look into it?
[16:59] <MASBRO> not that i can see
[16:59] <Macintrasher> 'allo breakfast
[16:59] <breakfast_> Also, I hacked US Airways.
[16:59] <MASBRO> its on auto dhcp
[16:59] <breakfast_> Just so you know.
[16:59] <ikonia> breakfast_: please stop
[17:00] <ikonia> breakfast_: we are not interested.
[17:00] <ikonia> breakfast_: please check the topic of this channel before speaking again
[17:00] <therealfakemoot> So I haven't used ubuntu in about seven or eight years and I've just installed 13.something on my workstation here at the office. I'm running pidgin and I can't really figure out why it won't let me close-to-system-tray
[17:00] <therealfakemoot> Pidgin is configured to always show in the system tray, but there's this little email icon hiding a dropdown menu that contains my pidgin icon, which is definitely not what I want
[17:00] <MASBRO> is there another distro thats more windows friendly as far as networking?
[17:01] <ikonia> MASBRO: what are you actually trying to do
[17:01] <ikonia> MASBRO: as "windows friendly netwoking" makes no sense
[17:01] <MASBRO> windows on windows is friendlier that linux to linux
[17:01] <ikonia> MASBRO: no, it's not
[17:02] <ikonia> MASBRO: why don't you explain the problem you are having
[17:02] <MASBRO> i just want to take a big file and share it.
[17:02] <MASBRO> ive tried to use ssh no go
[17:02] <ikonia> MASBRO: ok, so what's the problem
[17:02] <ikonia> MASBRO: ssh is not a sharing method
[17:02] <MASBRO> well my ubuntu can see windows folders but not the content and windows can't see ubuntu at all.
[17:03] <ikonia> MASBRO: how are you trying to connect ?
[17:03] <MASBRO> through samba
[17:03] <ikonia> MASBRO: exactly how
[17:03] <Macintrasher> @MASBRO  I'll have to make note of that, since all my mp3s are on an external drive.
[17:04] <MASBRO> ive enabled share on both systems and only ubuntu sees the windows
[17:06] <MASBRO> i would like to transfer files like bluetooth except using wireless cards
[17:06] <ikonia> MASBRO: it's pretty mich impossible to help you while you ignore the questions I'm asking and keep giving generic answers back
[17:06] <therealfakemoot> Any ideas about how to get Pidgin to persist in my system tray after hitting the X button? The pidgin configuration is correct. Something about my unity/whatever setup is blocking.
[17:06] <MASBRO> im giving you the ansers the best way i can
[17:06] <ikonia> MASBRO: exactly how are you trying to connect
[17:07] <trism> therealfakemoot: system tray icons were removed from the unity panel so you can't see it that way, there is a pidgin indicator: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pidgin-indicator-ubuntu-appindicator.html
[17:07] <trism> therealfakemoot: haven't tried it myself though
[17:08] <therealfakemoot> trism: Ahh, interesting. That's a bummer.
[17:08] <therealfakemoot> Maybe I'll have to look into tearing unity out.
[17:08] <MASBRO> im trying to connect through network tree
[17:08] <ikonia> MASBRO: walk me through your process
[17:09] <winegoddess> I called vmware about my issue. they said i cannot extend the partition in ubuntu
[17:09] <winegoddess> is this valid for ubuntu? here is a screenshot...
[17:09] <winegoddess> https://docs.google.com/a/karmoxie.com/document/d/1PdGywvXL67Lw7ql6-j5QdrYg2VSH0AdCrG1TUBuitlM/edit
[17:09] <MASBRO> i follwed this guide
[17:09] <MASBRO> http://tinyhacker.com/hacks/share-files-between-ubuntu-windows-7-computers/
[17:10] <ikonia> MASBRO: what versio of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:10] <MASBRO> 12.04 lts
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you can connect to sshfs ;)
[17:10] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: not with windows you can't
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: with filezilla though
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if you connect to the server using Filezilla in Windows you can send and recieve files
[17:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how are you following that guide ? that guide is using gnome 2 and links/menu items from gnome2, and 12.04 doesn't use gnome 2
[17:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: oops sorry
[17:11] <ikonia> using gnome 2 and links/menu items from gnome2, and 12.04 doesn't use gnome 2
[17:12] <ikonia> MASBRO:  how are you following that guide ? that guide is
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: np buddy
[17:12] <MASBRO> ActionParsnip. ive tried to use ftp
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: its sftp, use file -> site manager in Filezilla and you can connect to SFTP
[17:12] <Tzunamii> Just use btsync
[17:13] <MASBRO> i always get cannot connect error
[17:13] <MASBRO> i follow the guide step by step
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: did you select SFTP from the options and set port 22
[17:13] <MASBRO> yep definately
[17:13] <Macintrasher> well, crap, the install got goofed up somehow. reinstalling...
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: you cant just type the details in the default filezilla UI, you need to use the sites manager
[17:14] <MASBRO> i cant even ping ununtu laptop from windows
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: you can't just tell it to use port 22 and hope, it will still use FTP
[17:14] <valleydaddy78> xubuntu 13.10 wifi disconnection problem?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: can you ping by IP?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: what wifi chip?
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> dont know
[17:15] <MASBRO> yes i know i use the site manager.  i use filezilla all the time to transfer between my ps3
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> just install last night
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> kk
[17:15] <MASBRO> i tried to ping the ip no response.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: is the system a laptop?
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> yes
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> laptop yes
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: can you ping the router's internal IP?
[17:15] <MASBRO> the subnet are different. i tried to set the router to be the same as the laptop then the laptop changes subnet
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: have you use a wired connection to get fully updated first?
[17:15] <MASBRO> yes i can ping the router but not the laptop
[17:16] <valleydaddy78> it fully updated on the wifi last night with no problem
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: have you set a route for the alien IP to go down the interface to then get routed?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: ok, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <MASBRO> sorry Im lost now
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if you have 2 subnets, you need to either make one, or tell your system how to get to the other network
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: is this a home network setup?
[17:17] <MASBRO> how do i do that?
[17:17] <MASBRO> yes home network
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: is this a home network setup?
[17:17] <MASBRO> yes home network
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: then why do you have 2 subnets?
[17:18] <valleydaddy78> RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: guess what connection that is......
[17:18] <MASBRO> i don't know. my pc is at <IP_ADDRESS> and laptop at <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:19] <valleydaddy78> ?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: hint...the word "ethernet" is a massive clue
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: then they are on the same subnet, <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[17:19] <valleydaddy78> i was never connected to ethernet
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: yes but that isnt your wifi chip
[17:19] <MASBRO> but i cant ping from the pc to the laptop
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: can you also give the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:20] <valleydaddy78> how
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: its a terminal command, press CTRL + ALT + T and run the command, the output is one line so you can type it here
[17:21] <Dante1> well now I'm in a real pickel
[17:21] <valleydaddy78> whats the command sorry
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: cat /etc/issue
[17:21] <MASBRO> but i cant ping from the pc to the laptop
[17:22] <Dante1> Lubuntu 13.10 doesn't even know my wireless card exists and my Bluetooth device isn't working either even though I did another clean install of Lubuntu 13.10 :(
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: then your router is having an issue. I suggest you reboot it when it is next convenient
[17:22] <valleydaddy78> no such file or directory
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: what wifi chip are you using?
[17:22] <spayno> I have a trusty question.  Anyone know why apt-get -s --print-uris update doesn't work on trusty?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: there is a SPACE between the word 'cat' and '/etc/issue'
[17:22] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: Broadcom 4311
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: so if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     you dont see the broadcom?
[17:23] <MASBRO> whats bitsync?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if the 2 systems cannot see each other then you will not be able to copy data between them with any software you can name or be suggested of
[17:24] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: nope it only shows the BCM5787M Ethernet port not the wireless card
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: do you dual boot the system?
[17:24] <MASBRO> cant the two wireless cards connect by passing the router/
[17:25] <MASBRO> cant the two wireless cards connect by passing the router?
[17:25] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: I don't think so, I've never done a dual boot
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: no as the router is what you are connected to to get the wireless connection...
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: does the system have a make and model?
[17:25] <valleydaddy78> same responce
[17:25] <MASBRO> how about lan line from pc direct to the laptop nic?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: you'll probably find a router reboot follwed by a system reboot makes it ok
[17:26] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: HP Compaq 6715b with Mobile Sempron 3500+ processor
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: or:  lsb_release -sc
[17:26] <MASBRO> ive done that last night still a no go. if i use the cable from pc to laptop will that work?
[17:27] <MASBRO> only reason im trying to get the home network is because when copying files to a flash disk through ubuntu i get false readings and its slow and files are always corrupted
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: is there a switch to enable / disable wifi?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if you get a crossover cable then you can connect peer to peer, you will need to set the IPs as there is no DHCP server to give out IPs
[17:30] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: well you just touch the wireless touch pad on the laptop but when I do that it doesn't light up. It used to light up when the Bluetooth Manager used to work and the wireless card would show up in PCI Devices
[17:30] <MASBRO> i use the crossover cable to transfer from ps3 to laptop. it should work the same way?
[17:31] <chulis> a laptop with 4 gb ram with intel pentium ¿how many swap do you recomend?
[17:32] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: basically there's a touch switch on the laptop that turns the wireless band on and off but it's not doing anything.
[17:32] <MASBRO> one
[17:32] <k1l> chulis: swap=ram if you want hibernation
[17:33] <MASBRO> why i get false readings and its slow and files are always corrupted when using a flash disk
[17:33] <chulis> if i dont want hibernation?
[17:33] <chulis> if i dont want hibernation?  k1l?
[17:34] <k1l> chulis: think about if you want swap at all
[17:34] <MASBRO> just install the swap. it wont hurt
[17:34] <chulis> yes but how many mb of swap?
[17:35] <k1l> chulis: that depends.
[17:35] <chulis> it doesnt matter?
[17:35] <MASBRO> one gig is fine
[17:35] <k1l> chulis: i dont have swap at all.
[17:35] <chulis> lubuntu use more swap o ram?
[17:36] <chulis> wich use first?
[17:36] <k1l> chulis: remember that swap is very very slow. so if you dont have a reason to use swap to simulate more than 4 gb ram (because you run programs that will use much ram) you dont want  stuff in swap
[17:37] <MASBRO> why i get false readings and its slow and files are always corrupted when using a flash disk
[17:37] <k1l> first way is to use ram, but as there is a lot of cache and buffers in ram you will get stuff in swap
[17:37] <k1l> MASBRO: the flash devce is dead
[17:37] <chulis> so is it possible to instsall lubuntu with no swap?
[17:38] <MASBRO> no its not. its with every flash disk. old and new.out the package
[17:38] <kayallday> chulis: Yes.
[17:38] <chulis> ok
[17:38] <k1l> chulis: yes
[17:39] <delinquentme> so its a good idea to install packages without always using sudo ( installing node.js ) ... right now I thought I would have enabled non-sudo installation by giving my current user ownership of /usr/local/  ... but I still cant install packages w/o sudo .... Did I chown the wrong directory?
[17:39] <donofrio> What is the best distro for older hardware like the Dellgx620 w/1gb ram free and shared video card.....needs to be able to run opengl for java feedthebeast application.. (don't kill/kick me for asking here just wondered)
[17:40] <k1l> donofrio: since you ask here: use Lubuntu
[17:40] <kayallday> donofrio: Ubuntu will work, you can use a different GUI though. Maybe look at Lubuntu.
[17:40] <k1l> donofrio: for other distros ask in ##linux
[17:41] <Meerkat> I second or third lubuntu.
[17:41] <kayallday> donofrio: Minecraft can burn up a lot of memory, if you have a lots of players etc. One thing to be aware of.
[17:42] <MASBRO> puppy linux
[17:42] <nf7> Does anyone know how to disable the zoom in animation when you mouseover an item on the Cairo Dock? I can't seem to find it in the configuration files.
[17:42] <FireBeard> hello
[17:42] <delinquentme> $ sudo chown -R $USER /usr/bin  << also is this a bad idea?
[17:42] <mishravikas> hi everyone am facing problem in connecting to wifi network in ubuntu 13.04 can anyone please help me?
[17:43] <k1l> delinquentme: yes, dont do that
[17:43] <FireBeard> a stupid suggestion: why not keep that LibreOffice shit off the installer, and just have a quick install link on the desktop instead?
[17:43] <kayallday> mishravikas: Maybe if you told us where and how it was failing?
[17:43] <delinquentme> k1l, already did is ... sudo: must be setuid root
[17:43] <donofrio> so far I've just been getting RandD exceptions from 14.04 and 12.04 all they say is its ubuntu not working with the built in intel 845 graphics card but it was working till I upgrade-manager -d upgraded it from 12.04 to 14.04
[17:43] <donofrio> )-:
[17:43] <delinquentme> who should I be giving those permissions back to?
[17:43] <donofrio> no my 12 yr is all bummed
[17:43] <mishravikas> kayallday: its not connecting at all and tries again and again
[17:43] <donofrio> he's like can we just put windows on it....I'm like no way we have to fix this...
[17:44] <kayallday> Oh that was sad, the I see this channel is censoring opinions and words again? I'm out ofthere.
[17:44] <Dante1> so if rfkill says something is blocked does that mean that it's not in use
[17:45] <donofrio> the FTB irc channel said its ubuntu problem and install mint (I just started to roll my eyes - cause I used ubunut ad daily driver all the time)
[17:45] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: I don't know if you're still here but my wireless card just showed up now that my Bluetooth Manager is working, however the wireless card is still non functional
[17:46] <CrazySurfer> Is there any way to tell the console to show messages in english and not changing the OS language?
[17:46] <Pici> CrazySurfer: iirc, prefix your command with LANG=C
[17:47] <CrazySurfer> iirc?
[17:47] <delinquentme> k1l, advice on how to undo this >> sudo chown -R $USER /usr/bin  ?
[17:47] <donofrio> http://www.tinyurl.com/lewisstandingsatwork2014
[17:47] <delinquentme> ( because at current I can't install anything )
[17:47] <Macintrasher> well, 12.04 said it installed, but when it tried to boot, I just got a black screen with a blinking cursor.  I'll burn a 13.10 disc and use that instead.
[17:47] <Pici> CrazySurfer: if I recall correctly
[17:47] <CrazySurfer> Pici: You recall right :) thanks!
[17:48] <k1l> delinquentme: root:root
[17:50] <delinquentme> sudo chown -R root:root /usr/bin  k1l  ?
[17:50] <k1l> delinquentme: and for unexperienced users like you: if you need to use sudo, you really should think about what you are doing, or ask someone who knows
[17:50] <k1l> delinquentme: yes
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: has it ever worked in this install?
[17:51] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: The wireless no, the bluetooth yes. The bluetooth is working right now
[17:51] <delinquentme> $ sudo chown -R root:root /usr/bin  >>> sudo: must be setuid root
[17:52] <fragske> anyone experienced with netboot installs?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: reboot and drop to root recovery mode
[17:52] <k1l> delinquentme: you will need a live system  or the recovery to do that
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: then run the command there
[17:53] <Macintrasher> ok, let's see if 13.10 installs without a hitch.
[17:53] <fragske> well actually, pxe installs
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root and run:  mount -o rw,remount /; chown -R root:root /usr/bin
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: why did you even chown the files in the first place? its madness
[17:53] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, attempting to install local packages w/o the use of sudo
[17:53] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: I see that in the rfkill list the wireless LAN is unblocked but there's no wireless connection setup in the Network Connections
[17:54] <delinquentme> I ran a $which curl ... and it said it was installed in /usr/bin ... so I chownd that one
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root and run:  mount -o rw,remount /; chown -R root:root /usr/bin
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network m   do you see the device?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: sudo lshw -C network
[17:56] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: yes it's there I'm going to type everything it says just give me a moment
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Dante1
[17:56] <Dante1> manny@oldfart:~$ sudo lshw -C Network
[17:56] <Dante1> [sudo] password for manny:
[17:56] <Dante1>   *-network
[17:56] <Dante1>        description: Ethernet interface
[17:56] <Dante1>        product: NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[17:56] <fragske> !pxe
[17:56] <fragske> !netboot
[17:58] <Dante1> I accidentally flooded the channel
[17:59] <fragske> grmbl, that's no help either... if only my computer would boot from the usb-cdrom :(
[17:59] <fragske> or usb-fdd for that matter
[18:00] <Pupuser> hello 14_04 !
[18:01] <Pupuser> installed on my lappy, but the lid wake-up doesn't quite work
[18:03] <balleyne> I'm having trouble in Ubuntu 13.10, can't recognize my dvd device. There's no /dev/dvd. I've also tried /dev/sr0. Disk doesn't appear in Nautilus. Things were working just two weeks ago when running 13.04. Any thoughts on how I can debug?
[18:03] <Joel> If I wanted to submit a pull request for apt-key, wtf would the source for it be hiding?
[18:04] <mkander_> Hi! I have connected a barcode scanner to a server. Is there some way to route the input from this to a script or something? I dont want it to just input directly like the keyboard. Thanks :)
[18:04] <Arceye> how do I connect via ssh on a different port than 22 ?
[18:04] <Joel> mkander_, that's a limitation of the scanner if it has keyboard wedge.
[18:04] <daftykins> Arceye: via CLI? "ssh hostname:port" or "ssh hostname -p port"
[18:05] <mkander_> Joel: USB ?
[18:05] <JaySlaven> hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine
[18:05] <JaySlaven> hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine
[18:05] <Arceye> daftykins, thanks
[18:06] <mkander_> Joel: Not sure if I know what a "keyboard wedge" is, but it is at least connected by USB
[18:06] <Joel> mkander_, not much you can do then. why does it functioning as a keyboard not work for you?
[18:06] <Arceye> humblepie
[18:06] <Arceye> wtf ?
[18:06] <Joel> Arceye, that's in the man page, and the help output, btw.
[18:06] <ikonia> Arceye: tone down the langauge please
[18:06] <dutchuss2016> o need help with clementine
[18:06] <catphish> is ubuntu 13.10 / 14.0 supported on nexus tablets, or is it necessary to use touch?
[18:07] <Arceye> heheh   sorry the f meant flip :)
[18:07] <mkander_> Joel: I will use this as a login thing connected to a raspberry pi
[18:07] <mkander_> Joel: No screen
[18:07] <JaySlaven> hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine?????
[18:07] <balleyne> Arceye, lol...
[18:07] <Beldar> catphish, You want to ask at #ubuntu-touch
[18:07] <Stmeter> Hey guys. Does anyone here have experience using DRBL with CloneZilla SE on 12.04?
[18:08] <dutchuss2016> ii have 1644 songs that havve improper tags on them  im trying to have clementine fix there tags for me  (i  dont feel like taking the time to go thru each one and type  out the tags riight )
[18:08] <catphish> Beldar: lol that sounds like it answers my question ;)
[18:08] <Joel> mkander_, ok?
[18:08] <catphish> thanks
[18:08] <Arceye> Joel,  I was typing hostname:port   but it didn't work ,   hostname -p port worked
[18:08] <Joel> mkander_, it can still act like a keyboard just fine for that.
[18:08] <Beldar> catphish, Cool, the early nexus (2012) is limited to up to 13.04, the 2013 has a install of touch or trusty.
[18:09] <catphish> i have a 1st gen nexus 7 at the moment
[18:09] <Beldar> catphish, Me to.
[18:09] <mkander_> Joel: Hmm you mean by auto login and then start some script that routes stdin?
[18:09] <Joel> mkander_, So someone is going to scan a barcode to login?
[18:09] <catphish> Beldar: any opinion on what would be a better choice? touch vs 13.04?
[18:09] <mkander_> Joel: Yes
[18:09] <JaySlaven> oh cmon hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine
[18:09] <Joel> mkander_, so the barcode should be nameENTERpassword. which can be done.
[18:09] <catphish> or just forget it and use android?
[18:10] <balleyne> Arceye, FYI you can also set the port in your .ssh/config file, so that you don't have to type it every time: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80276/can-i-specify-a-port-for-certain-ip-address-in-sshs-config
[18:10] <mkander_> Joel: Hmm that sounds complex if you mean by using the default login screen that way
[18:11] <Joel> mkander_, it's not.
[18:11] <Arceye> balleyne,  thanks, when I eventually get the darn thing working, for now I will have to move my seat 2 feet to the left and log in to the box physically
[18:11] <Beldar> catphish, I put the touch in lately, using the multirom app, I have 3 other androids on it. Touch is still in development still, I use custom android's primarily
[18:12] <catphish> i've found stock jelybean to be excellent, used to use cyanogen, but havent seen the need lately
[18:12] <mkander_> Joel: What do you think about auto login and then just start a script that grabs the stdin and routes it to a script for example?
[18:12] <SentryAB> can someone tell me what using a "^" with "apt-get install/remove" does? e.g. "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^" I can't seem to find a good description of its function
[18:13] <Joel> mkander_, seems like a lot of work when a barcode can contain a carriage return.
[18:13] <catphish> Beldar: i get bored of OSs though, like to try new stuff
[18:13] <Beldar> ;)
[18:13] <catphish> tbh, i'm having a hard time finding a desktop enviroment i don't hate
[18:13] <daftykins> guys you're off topic, this is not a channel for smartphones!
[18:13] <mkander_> Joel: Its just that I cant use the server users as login
[18:14] <daftykins> catphish: take general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is for support questions only
[18:14] <catphish> daftykins: please stop being disruptive
[18:15] <Beldar> catphish, Actually daftykins is correct here.
[18:15] <mkander_> Joel: The users are on another server and I cant setup ldap or anything there
[18:15] <mkander_> Joel: Only have an api access (http) to check if barcode is valid
[18:17] <Arceye> Yay!!!   with the help of #ubuntu I can rock at this linux stuff :)
[18:17] <Pupuser> people, please, this is for current versions discussion, right?
[18:18] <MooDoo> Pupuser: yes :)
[18:18] <catphish> SentryAB: it's a regular expression, ^ means start of string, not sure why it would be at the end
[18:18] <dutchuss2016> i neeed some help with clementine  and no ones in clementine chat
[18:19] <Macintrasher> Actually, I have a Clementine question, too.  Does the Ubuntu version properly recognize Unicode in file names?
[18:19] <catphish> SentryAB: the manual says: http://paste.codebasehq.com/pastes/u82lqakkacuw957gp3
[18:19] <SentryAB> catphish, well I got a tip about using it for removing ubuntu-desktop and all its dependencies again, it seemed to work :)
[18:20] <MooDoo> Pupuser: if you need +1 chat then use #ubuntu+1 :D
[18:20] <delinquentme> $ ls -l /usr/bin/sudo >> -rwxr-xr-x 2 lilith root 71288 Mar 11 05:24 /usr/bin/sudo
[18:20] <catphish> maybe it has some meaning not noted in the manual then :(
[18:20] <delinquentme> so still no sudo ownership
[18:21] <delinquentme> still no sudo after running $ rw, remount /; chown -R root:root /usr/bin
[18:21] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip isn't here =[[
[18:21] <Pupuser> general discussion of 14.04, then - likes, dislikes, etc?
[18:21] <dutchuss2016> i dont think it  does
[18:21] <daftykins> delinquentme: what on earth are you running that for?
[18:22] <delinquentme> daftykins, I gave ownership of /usr/bin to my current user ( non-sudo )
[18:22] <delinquentme> so trying to fix this
[18:22] <MooDoo> Pupuser: do /topic and it gives you a little info
[18:22] <SentryAB> catphish, I did find that in the manual, but it makes a lot less sense to me, than I would like it to
[18:23] <daftykins> delinquentme: how'd you manage that? :)
[18:23] <Fawzib> I installed ubuntu 13.10 (server), after reboot always get error message '*ERROR* failed to set mode on CRT:10'
[18:23] <daftykins> Fawzib: using non-LTS versions of server is a pretty bad idea if you're going to set something serious up with it
[18:24] <Fawzib> home server, nothing *really* important, until next lts gets here
[18:24] <delinquentme> daftykins, I was trying ot install node.js *properly* by not using sudo for all the packages ... and so I thought ... if I want to run w/o sudo ... $ which curl ... and then give $USER ownership of that dir
[18:24] <delinquentme> 0=]
[18:24] <Pupuser> thanks
[18:24] <MooDoo> Pupuser: yw :)
[18:28] <Fawzib> hmm, just noticed 14.04 is released tomorrow (thought it was much later), i guess i can wait one day :)
[18:31] <posthuman> hello, i installed courier-imap-ssl on exim4  and allowed port 993  but i cant use imap+ssl on thunderbird anyway
[18:32] <Macintrasher> alright, looks like 13.10 installed perfectly.  now to get those video drivers...
[18:32] <posthuman> it says no configuration found with 993
[18:33] <desouza> olá
[18:33] <desouza> teste
[18:34] <Logan_> !pt | desouza
[18:34] <jhutchins> posthuman: Sounds like you may need to specify additional details, although 993 is the standard port.
[18:35] <jhutchins> posthuman: I presume this message is from thunderbird?
[18:35] <posthuman> yes
[18:35] <jhutchins> posthuman: Have you tested the port with telnet?
[18:35] <posthuman> and thank u for your reply
[18:35] <posthuman> 993 works on telnet
[18:35] <quasimodal> anyone here use ufw?
[18:36] <quasimodal> and if not, why?
[18:36] <jhutchins> So it's definitely a thunderbird configuration issue.  Wish I knew more.
[18:36] <jhutchins> quasimodal: A firewall can not protect the device it's running on.  All of the packets have to reach the kernel to be inspected.
[18:36] <novasonic> hi
[18:36] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Windows uses on-system firewalls to cover a miriad of security flaws that are not present in Linux by design.
[18:37] <quasimodal> anyone here jhutchins what are you saying exactly, don't use ufw?
[18:37] <novasonic> what is with windows?
[18:38] <jhutchins> quasimodal: If you need a firewall, it needs to be at the router where your network connects to other systems.
[18:38] <quasimodal> well this is just for my VPS :)
[18:38] <novasonic> i disabled the firewall of my modem
[18:38] <novasonic> ping me
[18:38] <quasimodal> sorry should have specified that
[18:38] <Macintrasher> ok, now we can get started.
[18:38] <novasonic> lol
[18:38] <Pupuser> is ubutyu really actually just a bot?
[18:39] <SchrodingersScat> Pupuser: yes
[18:39] <novasonic> schrodinger
[18:39] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Your profider should have an upstream firewall that offers proper protection.
[18:39] <Macintrasher> I extracted the drivers for my vid card to the desktop as a .run file.  how do I install them?
[18:39] <novasonic> just one question
[18:39] <novasonic> are u alive?
[18:39] <desouza> Ok I need go out now
[18:39] <desouza> bye bye friends
[18:39] <SchrodingersScat> novasonic: I don't know until someone tests it and collapses the wave
[18:40] <jhutchins> !nvidia | Macintrasher
[18:40] <quasimodal> hmm judging by my access logs doesn't look like it :)
[18:40] <jhutchins> Macintrasher: There should also be instructions wherever you got the file.
[18:40] <Macintrasher> reading now...
[18:41] <jhutchins> quasimodal: What specific problems are you seeing?
[18:41] <jhutchins> quasimodal: brute force ssh attacks?
[18:41] <quasimodal> ya the usual
[18:41] <quasimodal> i've got key only access to non-root
[18:41] <quasimodal> thats the first thing i setup
[18:42] <jhutchins> quasimodal: 1) Notify your provider and suggest that they throttle ssh connections to protect their clients, 2) run on an obfuscated port (which you should have to ask them to open).
[18:42] <quasimodal> so just looking to take the next steps in securing it
[18:42] <quasimodal> ya im off 22 now
[18:42] <quasimodal> as in i changed ssh from 22 to something else
[18:42] <jhutchins> quasimodal: A firewall doesn't protect you from DOS because all of the packets have to reach the kernel before the firewall rejects or drops them.
[18:43] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Before you disable 22 make sure the new port is open on the provider's firewall.
[18:43] <novasonic> tar -cp on your rsa_keys
[18:43] <novasonic> and distribute it everywhere
[18:43] <quasimodal> yeah so DOS stuff is something i'd have to ask the provider for protection from?
[18:43] <aysorth> quasimodal: yes.
[18:44] <quasimodal> ok, but save the DDOS stuff
[18:44] <aysorth> quasimodal: most want you to pay for that though
[18:44] <quasimodal> the usual steps to secure the server is
[18:44] <quasimodal> keybased access to non root of obfuscated port
[18:44] <Pupuser> SchrodingersScat, are you really there?
[18:44] <novasonic> prevent sql_injection?
[18:44] <quasimodal> and after that?
[18:44] <SchrodingersScat> Pupuser: unclear
[18:44] <quasimodal> ive installed fail2ban
[18:44] <desouza> what is channel ubuntu for Brasil?
[18:45] <quasimodal> i activated ufw but it makes everything so slow
[18:45] <posthuman> it is a thunderbird issue guys -.-
[18:45] <posthuman> evolution works just fine
[18:45] <jhutchins> !br | desouza
[18:45] <aysorth> quasimodal: ssh_config, ufw, fail2ban is my lite checklist
[18:45] <novasonic> ~/join bsd
[18:45] <aysorth> quasimodal: ufw shouldn't make anything slow, though
[18:45] <novasonic> l
[18:46] <desouza> ok thanks!
[18:46] <quasimodal> it literally causes my ssh login to take about 30 seconds longer
[18:46] <quasimodal> :/
[18:46] <quasimodal> with only two rules added
[18:46] <aysorth> quasimodal: something's wrong then
[18:46] <reisio> irc.mozilla.org
[18:46] <novasonic> where is your serv?
[18:46] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Perhaps you are blocking the reverse DNS?
[18:46] <aysorth> I have a 64M vps with ufw, on debian, but it should make any difference
[18:46] <aysorth> And it works fine
[18:46] <Macintrasher> "In Ubuntu 10.04 and 9:10 this is found under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers."  I'm using 13.10, so what do I do?
[18:46] <aysorth> shouldn
[18:46] <aysorth> t
[18:46] <novasonic> i would use slackware or freebsd
[18:46] <novasonic> for servers
[18:47] <quasimodal> all i've done tho is install, add rules to allow ssh and http and then activate
[18:47] <quasimodal> and instantly my ssh logins lag when connecting to the port
[18:47] <quasimodal> novasonic im using vpsfx right now
[18:47] <novasonic> aptitude breaks constantly
[18:47] <quasimodal> i like them because they are cheap :)
[18:48] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Check to see if reverse dns is working; if not either fix it or disable it in sshd_conf.  That should speed up the logins.
[18:48] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Don't feed the troll, just ignore it.
[18:48] <Macintrasher> wait, I might have found something...
[18:49] <quasimodal> jhutchins thanks ill try that now
[18:51] <novasonic> exit
[18:51] <C6R> I have 10 files in a directory. Using the file command how do I determine human readable of all files at once and not serperately?
[18:52] <Pici> C6R: what does "how do I determine human readable of all files" mean?
[18:53] <novasonic> go to the directory
[18:53] <novasonic> and type ls -ln
[18:53] <human_> Hey, anybody know ehere I can find older snort snapshots ?
[18:53] <novasonic> it will list permissions
[18:53] <C6R> file -- -file00 resonds as "data"
[18:53] <C6R> I would like it to print if its ascii text
[18:54] <novasonic> you need to create your own format and make a header structure
[18:54] <Macintrasher> I found the Software & Updates window and chose the Additional Drivers tab...
[18:55] <novasonic> for example if the first 5 bytes translate to ascii
[18:55] <Pici> !who
[18:55] <novasonic> then it means it is an ascii file
[18:55] <Macintrasher> it showed me the drivers it was using and showed 3 others I could choose from.  I chose the third and it's updating now (tho quite slowly).
[18:56] <novasonic> ubotto, how can I do that?
[18:56] <novasonic> !tab
[18:57] <Macintrasher> is there any way to know if it's updating the drivers from the file I downloaded from AMD?
[18:57] <novasonic> so if I send a message to any particular person, it can only be seen by him?
[18:58] <Pici> novasonic: just prefix your message with their nick. That way no one else things that you might be talking to them, and your messages will be hilighted by that person's IRC client.
[18:58] <novasonic> Pici: ok
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Pici: ^^ otherwise too, we may not see any of your responses among all the other traffic ! .
[19:00] <novasonic> Pici: btw, thanks for stating that
[19:00] <Macintrasher> Mental note: driver updates take forever.
[19:02] <daftykins> Macintrasher: using the drivers tab there is the *correct* way to go about graphics drivers, manual downloads are the windows mentality mistake :)
[19:02] <quasimodal> jhutchins disabling reverse DNS in the sshd_config worked perfectly thanks alot
[19:02] <daftykins> Macintrasher: however using AMD is a level of hell, so often proper support can only be had through manual downloads. it depends on the age of your hardware
[19:04] <novasonic> daftykins: why do you hate windows that much?
[19:05] <daftykins> novasonic: no, i'm saying someone that comes from windows thinks graphics drivers are to be downloaded in Linux when they're new to it. don't assume to know what i think
[19:05] <Macintrasher> @daftykins  well, up until now, I didn't even know the drivers tab existed.  I'm used to windows and .exes.  Also, vendor-made Linux drivers should be reliable, right?
[19:06] <novasonic> daftykins: as long as the driver you are looking for is open-source you can compile it, otherwise you need to download it
[19:07] <Macintrasher> ok, driver's been updated.  now, how to properly test them out...?
[19:07] <daftykins> novasonic: can you please stop talking to me now? you have completely misunderstood the situation
[19:07] <delinquentme_> OK so I'm in the middle of repairing  a few things
[19:07] <delinquentme_> -rwsr-sr-x 1 daemon daemon    51464 Oct 21 04:00 at
[19:07] <delinquentme_> I've got a system showing daemon root instead of the above daemon daemon
[19:08] <delinquentme_> also ... I know these are both users ... bu what does the placement in that line designate?
[19:08] <daftykins> user - group
[19:09] <code_> any documentation resources online to learn linux as TLDP.org?
[19:09] <reisio> code_: tldp.org
[19:09] <code_> reisio, any other online enormous tutorials i can depend on?
[19:10] <reisio> sure
[19:10] <reisio> but nothing as good as the man pages you already have installed
[19:11] <novasonic> delinquentme: the first root is the name of the user, and the second is the primary group that root belongs to
[19:13] <Dante1> yea this whole thing just is out of hand
[19:14] <Dante1> this would be my 5th clean install and I'm not even sure I'm going to stick with Lubuntu 13.10 because everything i have done so far has not worked to get my wireless card to work
[19:14] <novasonic> Dante1: you need to check if your wireless card is supported
[19:14] <betabertus8899> i'm also running 13.10 pretty good for me so far
[19:15] <Dante1>  I really like the LXDE environment and the fact that it runs smoother than Ubuntu 12.04 LTS but when I tried installing the b43 driver the computer froze up on the reboot trying to fix recursive errors
[19:15] <betabertus8899> install on lenovo z500 with pre-installed w8.1 was a real nightmare, got it to work eventually
[19:15] <novasonic> Dante1: if it does, then you may need to configure it by hand
[19:15] <betabertus8899> can't wait for the 14.04 lts tomorrow
[19:15] <Dante1> novasonic: supposedly it does but everything I tried has failed
[19:16] <Dante1> I've gone to the forums I've asked here and it's just getting frustrating
[19:16] <reisio> what'd you install, exactly?
[19:16] <daftykins> betabertus8899: you're welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic but this channel is for support queries only
[19:16] <betabertus8899> unity is good but could be so much better, unity could take a note from rocketdock and osx
[19:16] <Dante1> b43 cutter - b43 installer
[19:16] <Dante1> it's for the Broadcom 4311 wireless card
[19:17] <kupo_> you try xubuntu dantel ?
[19:17] <betabertus8899> yes, how do i install duel gpu on lenovo z500 - has intel hd 4000 and nvidia gt740 2gb card
[19:17] <betabertus8899> just cannot get it to work
[19:18] <novasonic> Dante1: I am pretty sure that it is supported with new vanilla kernel
[19:18] <Dante1> I haven't tried xubuntu kup_
[19:18] <riceNbeans> what do you think is the difference between 14.0 and the upcoming mint 17?
[19:18] <betabertus8899> daftykins can you help please
[19:19] <reisio> riceNbeans: color green, delayed packages, more bugs
[19:19] <reisio> as ever
[19:19] <Dante1> novasnoic: like I said it's supposedly supported but on regular install it doesn't work. When I tried the STA that didn't work. I tried installing the b43 driver twice, the first time it froze on reboot during the text interface screen. The second time I turned my wireless card off and on again and it froze and did the same thing as previous where it froze up on text interface
[19:20] <Macintrasher> seems I had more updates to install.  so far, tho, everything's working as it should.
[19:20] <daftykins> !optimus
[19:20] <novasonic> Dante1: have you tried modprobing it?
[19:20] <daftykins> betabertus8899: see above ^
[19:20] <Dante1> novasonic: when I tried modprobing it it said that it was fatal command and it didn't want to execute
[19:20] <daftykins> betabertus8899: however for optimus setups i suggest you give up and wait for 14.04 final
[19:20] <Mrokii> Hello. This is (probably) not directly related to Ubuntu, but sometimes XSane doesn't work properly. Specifically, sometimes "LineArt" or "Colour"-mode produces either a completel black scan or (some kind of repetition of a scanned document, but in smaller forms with the background all black as well). Sometimes it works though and I have no clue what causes this. Strangely "Grey"-mode seems to work everytime.
[19:21] <betabertus8899> yes have tried it, how do i know if this is working? still shows only hd4000 intel
[19:21] <novasonic> Dante1: did you check /var/log/dmesg?
[19:21] <django> once i have my USB boot setup to install ubuntu what do I do
[19:21] <Dante1> novasnoic: well I'm running on the trial Lubuntu 13.10 because I'm afraid it's going to freeze on startup
[19:22] <betabertus8899> yes daftykins i also think i will just install the 14.04 rather than spend time fixing this today
[19:22] <daftykins> betabertus8899: no guarantee it'll work even then
[19:23] <betabertus8899> yea, even in windows 8.1 the duel gpu is not great
[19:23] <Dante1> novasnoic: for whatever strange reason Ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS didn't have this problem at all, but on those versions there's some lag unlike in Lubuntu where the lag is reduced significantly
[19:24] <django> anyone?/
[19:24] <novasonic> Dante1: does your wireless card work under ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[19:24] <Dante1> novasnoic: yes
[19:25] <novasonic> Dante1: I have no idea
[19:25] <Bashing-om> django: The easy way -> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu <- .
[19:26] <Dante1> novasonic: yeah, it's quite a mystery.
[19:26] <Dante1> Bashing-om: hey how's it going.
[19:26] <novasonic> Dante1: you can check changelogs anytime
[19:26] <Bashing-om> django: 'nothe beautiful day in the neighbor hood.
[19:26] <riceNbeans> reisio, as in mint is worse? delayed packages, though it used same packages? which bugs in your opinion?
[19:27] <reisio> mint is sourced from ubuntu, it can only lag behind
[19:27] <Dante1> novasnoic: How do I do that if it freezes up during boot
[19:27] <kupo_> mint is quite stable though
[19:27] <kupo_> i like both
[19:27] <reisio> compared to ubuntu, it's just about as stable, yup
[19:27] <reisio> but it can essentially only be less stable :p
[19:28] <Dante1> Bashing-om: I tried out Lubuntu 13.10 like you said last night. It works well on this computer not much lag but I'm having a huge issue with the wireless card that's been quite frustrating.
[19:28] <C6R> !tab novasonic Am i missing something? Say I have file1-file10, individually I can use the command file to determing type. Is there a way to do this all at once?
[19:28] <novasoni1> sorry
[19:28] <novasoni1> my modem resetted itself
[19:28] <novasoni1> did i miss something?
[19:29] <C6R> !tab novasonic Am i missing something? Say I have file1-file10, individually I can use the command file to determing type.  The file names are different.
[19:31] <elenis> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:31] <novasoni1> C6R: you can move them to a directory and execute your command for each file in directory like this: dir/*
[19:32] <Bashing-om> Dante1: Sorry 'bout that, wireless is not in my sphere of interest (yet) .. if no satisfaction here on IRC, research in ubuntuforums.org ,
[19:32] <Dante1> Bashing-om: I have and tried all sorts of things to no avail
[19:32] <novasoni1> quit
[19:32] <C6R> Why would I move them? I must not be understanding you. I am currently in the directory containing all the files I want to determine type of. Only 1 file is ascii the rest is data.
[19:33] <C6R> I want to execute 1 single command thats lists all file types
[19:33] <reisio> file *
[19:33] <novasonic> i
[19:33] <reisio> novasonic: agreed
[19:33] <novasonic> reisio: agree what?
[19:34] <django> so?
[19:35] <novasonic> C6R: does your ascii file have .ascii extension?
[19:35] <novasonic> C6R: how do you determine if it is an ascii file?
[19:35] <C6R> I do not know.
[19:35] <reisio> django: so
[19:35] <Dante1> Bashing-om: is Lubuntu 12.04 still supported?
[19:35] <C6R> ok..
[19:35] <Bashing-om> Dante1: I am aware that wireless can be a pain to get to working in linux. Might I suggest ya search the forum - wireless card and chili555 (resident guru).
[19:35] <hikenboot> anyone able to tell me how i remove the sticky bit for all files in a directory and subdirectories and files I would like to reset permissions to 700 recursively but accidently set stickybit and put ownership to a apache user
[19:35] <django> i used the universal USB installer to setup the ubuntu in my USB----now what
[19:35] <novasonic> C6R: sorry, but I didn't understand your problem
[19:36] <reisio> Dante1: yup
[19:36] <Paramezius> hello
[19:36] <Bashing-om> Da, negayive 12.-4 Lubuntu has become EOL .
[19:36] <reisio> hikenboot: :/
[19:36] <Paramezius> i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 in an old mac ppc g5
[19:36] <Paramezius> i downloaded the right ppc img
[19:37] <reisio> to be precise, 12.04.x is still supported
[19:37] <novasonic> C6R: can you talk more specific what do you mean by "ascii file"?
[19:37] <Paramezius> the problem is that the cd start right n a live session
[19:37] <C6R> THe file names are -file00  through  -file10 . If i execute the command file -- -file00 it prints the type as data. I know -file07 prints the type as ascii. The rest prints as data. I simply want to execute a cammand that prints all files (-file00 through -file10) and their types
[19:37] <Bashing-om> django: When you boot the liveUSB, and choose to install, do you see the option "something else " ?
[19:38] <Paramezius> and this session seems to have some kind of problem showing the menus, icons and part of the desktop
[19:38] <reisio> C6R: file -- -file*
[19:38] <Paramezius> I want to install but i see no way
[19:38] <Paramezius> could anybody help me?
[19:38] <reisio> Paramezius: nvidia?
[19:38] <C6R> THANK YOU REISIO
[19:38] <Dante1> reisio and Bashing-om: Well I guess I'm going to dl 12.04 and burn that but first I'm going to try and re-install 13.10 and try one more time to see if I can get it to work and if not then it's off to Lubuntu 12.04 and try my luck there
[19:38] <Paramezius> yes
[19:39] <novasonic> exec chmod 700 for each file in the dir
[19:39] <C6R> thank you novasonic
[19:39] <reisio> Dante1: what for?
[19:39] <C6R> file -- -file* works perfectly
[19:39] <Paramezius> it is an nvidia reisio
[19:39] <reisio> Paramezius: as long as you can see well enough to change the graphics driver out, it's probably fine
[19:39] <Bashing-om> Dante1: Good luck, wull help in any way I can, but wireless is not in my range.
[19:40] <Dante1> reisio: Broadcom 4311 wireless card doesn't seem to work on 13.10. Bashing-om: thanks again. I'll comeback and let you know of my findings
[19:40] <Grepsd> Hi. I have an unknown display, i tried to change resolution using xrandr+cvt, and it worked, after the reboot, the display name changed (DVI-I-1 to DVI-I-0) and now, i cant change anything, i always get an error when trying to run the same procedure (the error is X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes))
[19:40] <Macintrasher> well, now that I know how to manually install drivers, I'm gonna mess with everything else for a while.  I'll be back if I have anymore issues. Thanks to the few that responded!
[19:40] <Dante1> Thanks guys bbl
[19:41] <novasonic> Grepsd: is hotplug enabled by default?
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Dante1: there is a lot of info onthe forum in respect to getting the broadcom wireless working.
[19:41] <Paramezius> reisio: do you know how to change the driver?
[19:41] <Grepsd> novasonic : dont know. Where is this information ?
[19:41] <novasonic> Grepsd: if so can you try to disconnect/reconnect your dvi device?
[19:41] <reisio> Paramezius: usually there's a circuit board icon at top right, otherwise you can find it in the admin menu somewhere
[19:41] <Grepsd> ho, i already tried that, it didnt change name
[19:41] <Grepsd> And i still get the same error.
[19:42] <novasonic> Grepsd: what is the error you get?
[19:42] <Grepsd> this one : http://pastebin.com/KFT5uh63
[19:43] <novasonic> Grepsd: did you try X -configure ?
[19:43] <Grepsd> novasonic: i'm gonna try right now.
[19:43] <django> Bashing-om i havent booted
[19:44] <hikenboot> never mind figured a way around it
[19:45] <kxD7> I was running shred on a hard drive while I was at work, and the power went out, is there a way to know if it completed successfully ?
[19:45] <reisio> kxD7: since shred is a total waste of time
[19:45] <reisio> if it ran for even a second, it should be done
[19:45] <Paramezius> ok reisio i will look fr it ;)
[19:45] <Paramezius> thanks a lot!
[19:46] <reisio> unless the file was truly enormous
[19:46] <kxD7> reisio, I was not running it on a journalled file system
[19:46] <reisio> one overwrite is enough
[19:46] <reisio> shred is a daft util
[19:46] <reisio> shred -n 1, I guess
[19:47] <reisio> but that makes it look even dafter
[19:47] <Bashing-om> django:  1st step, make sure the USB burn is good, boot that USB, soon as bios screen clears press the right shift key -> language screen, escape key to accept default; -> boot option screen -> "check disk for defects".
[19:47] <delinquentme> Ok so Im trying to install node.js ... and I've been told to NOT install as sudo ... however suggestions have been made to compile the package and move it ... which I guess make sense ... however where should I move it to for ubuntu and my current user?
[19:47] <Grepsd> novasonic : cant run this since the Xserver is already started
[19:47] <reisio> delinquentme: I'd use the package manager
[19:47] <reisio> but... I'd also not use node.js :p
[19:48] <nubnub> hi, i am running ubuntu 12.04 and have done apt-get update and upgrade.  my openssl version is 1.0.1. do i need to upgrade openssl?
[19:48] <ikonia> nubnub: no
[19:48] <nubnub> ikonia: thanks
[19:48] <delinquentme> how can I get the package manager to install via $ apt-get install nodejs ... WITHOUT using sudo ?
[19:48] <reisio> nubnub: you want 1.0.1g or higher
[19:48] <ikonia> delinquentme: you don't
[19:48] <delinquentme> because that seems to be the current issue
[19:48] <ikonia> delinquentme: use use sudo
[19:49] <reisio> 'openssl version'
[19:49] <nubnub> reisio: its 1.0.1 alone with no letters
[19:49] <delinquentme> ikonia, packages that I need to install require that it be run as non-sudo
[19:49] <reisio> nubnub: 'openssl version'
[19:49] <ikonia> delinquentme: run it as non-sudo - but install it as sudo
[19:49] <nubnub> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[19:49] <reisio> nubnub: 2012 is quite old :p
[19:49] <nubnub> reisio:  OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[19:49] <Grepsd> Would anyone have an idea on how to fix an unknown display and the fact i cant change its resolution ?
[19:50] <Bashing-om> nubnub: For complete info -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215886 <- .
[19:50] <nubnub> reisio: its whatever was installed with ubuntu 12.04 and i run apt-get update and upgrade all the time
[19:50] <reisio> nubnub: I don't know, maybe they backported some patches, though
[19:50] <ikonia> reisio: it is a back port
[19:50] <ikonia> !fixssl
[19:50] <reisio> ikonia: good for it
[19:50] <ikonia> !sslfix
[19:50] <ikonia> ughhh
[19:50] <Beldar> !sslbug
[19:50] <_smoothie> #bash
[19:50] <reisio> !yayspam
[19:51] <ikonia> thank you Beldar
[19:51] <Beldar> no prob
[19:51] <k1l> nubnub: to make it short: if you ran the updates its all fine. ubuntu fixed that for all suported versions on april 7th
[19:52] <nubnub> k1l: thanks.
[19:52] <nubnub> ikonia: i did read that link you provided several days ago but was confused again by all the misinformation floating around
[19:53] <ikonia> nubnub: that link is an official link - the info in it is fact, always relay on official docs rather than external sources
[19:53] <reisio> silent patching you don't know about ftw (s/w/l/)
[19:53] <k1l> nubnub: yes, the news site are fast on the panic but very low when it comes to the updated versions
[19:56] <Grepsd> No one with an understanding of xrandr/X/unknown displays ? :x
[19:56] <nubnub> the thing that confused me was that i *think* i created my csr's for 3 websites using a compromised version of openssl, but when i ssl test (https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/) it passed without a problem. that was my point of confusion
[19:58] <jonathan__> Hi
[20:04] <django> ok guys im on ubuntu right now
[20:04] <django> i have the partition but idk if its setup correctly
[20:04] <django> i got some error that the root file isnt ready
[20:06] <fragske> I've tried about everything, I upgraded to 13.10 and my nvidia drivers stopped working
[20:06] <Bashing-om> django: (??) Ya mean that you have booted ubuntu from that liveUSB, and getting that error ar boot up ? .
[20:06] <fragske> i added the ppa, but no succes :(
[20:07] <fragske> every time I upgrade, I'm in a world of pain
[20:07] <k1l> fragske: which card? dual video cards?
[20:08] <fragske> GTX 650 ti
[20:08] <fragske> what i would love to do is to reinstall the machine, but it doesn't boot from cdrom or usbstick either
[20:09] <karab44> when ubuntu 1404 quick
[20:09] <k1l> is that a intel+nvidia thing=
[20:09] <Linda73> Hello! What is the CORRECT way of updating/upgrading Ubuntu tomorrow? I have heard all sorts of different command line combinations and it is making my head spin. Please?
[20:10] <xangua> Linda73: update manager will notify you
[20:10] <Pici> Linda73: What release are you on now?
[20:10] <fragske> what do yoiu mean with intel+nvidia
[20:10] <Linda73> Pici: 13.10
[20:10] <k1l> Linda73: run update-manager and it will show you to upgrade to 14.04. but wait untill the servers are synced
[20:10] <Linda73> xangua: First time I hear that.
[20:10] <Linda73> k1l: How do I know when that is?
[20:11] <Pici> Linda73: Update manager will notify you, or you could just run update-manager manually or run sudo do-release-upgrade  from a terminal.
[20:11] <k1l> Linda73: update-manager is the "you got updates" window
[20:11] <Linda73> Now I am even more confused.   Other people might prefer the gui method, so update-manager is better for them.
[20:13] <Pici> oops, mistab.. whatever.
[20:13] <karab44> why I can't download official 14.04 ?
[20:14] <k1l> karab44: it is not ready yet
[20:14] <Pici> karab44: because it hasn't been released yet.
[20:14] <k1l> karab44: wait untill the release tomorrow
[20:14] <karab44> why I am from japan and here is 17.04 date of release
[20:14] <rypervenche> hahahaha
[20:14] <k1l> karab44: the wait until 23:59
[20:14] <karab44> I have 17.04 already japan
[20:14] <karab44> tora tora tora
[20:14] <Pici> !party
[20:15] <Dante1> I have returned with a story of success! :D
[20:15] <karab44> yes already on party channel
[20:16] <karab44> they told me hit f5 every second there http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/
[20:16] <k1l> karab44: please stop. just wait in party channel for the official announcment
[20:16] <karab44> I must be first
[20:16] <k1l> karab44: then install the beta
[20:17] <Dante1> Bashing-om: What I did this time was sudo apt-get updates. After I then did sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree. I went into additional devices and made sure that the linux firmware nonfree was selected then rebooted the system and now the wireless card works
[20:17] <karab44> beta=upgrade=issues
[20:17] <Dante1> Bashing-om: so that last thread you sent me did the trick
[20:18] <Dante1> Bashing-om: thanks again buddy I owe you one :D
[20:18] <Bashing-om> Dante1; You do good work ! Pleased things are working out.
[20:19] <Dante1> well be back in a little bit it's time to eat!
[20:20] <coolman_bg84> hello guys :)
[20:20] <fragske> so 14.04 coming out tonight?
[20:21] <coolman_bg84> what you thing about  zebra - a routing manager
[20:30] <C6R> Is there a way to search for a file by its byte size? Say the file is 1000 bytes. I have 100 files in a directory. Is there a way to pin point the file by searching specifically for a ser byte size?
[20:30] <C6R> I can du -a but who wants to go through 100 files.
[20:30] <alt2quicktables> can anyone recommend me a newbie friendly and *currently supported* alternative to quicktables?  http://freecode.com/projects/quicktables
[20:35] <alt2quicktables> i am after a console based alternative. not a gui app
[20:36] <qin> C6R: find . -size 1k; man find;
[20:36] <mwic> I can't get proftpd to start, can someone troubleshoot with me ?
[20:36] <mwic>  /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[20:36] <mwic> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[20:37] <mwic> i can't tell if that's an error, or just a message, but there's no proftpd process after doing it
[20:44] <macson333> gooday govna
[20:44] <macson333> sup
[20:46] <lanyons> Hello
[20:46] <john_rambo> The 12.04 repos are having trouble ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7263690/
[20:47] <k1l> john_rambo: maybe its your provider?
[20:47] <ikonia> repos are fine
[20:48] <john_rambo> I change the DNS and try again
[20:48] <john_rambo> will
[20:48] <k1l> john_rambo: just tried it on my 12.04 box and it works fine
[20:50] <Dante1> so what's the deal with flash support on Lubuntu 13.10
[20:50] <ikonia> there is noe
[20:50] <ikonia> flash is dead on linux
[20:50] <Dante1> I thought there was a plugin for firefox in the Ubuntu Software center
[20:50] <novasonic> Dante1: there are open-source alternatives to flash
[20:50] <ikonia> it's the old one as adobe has stopped developing it
[20:51] <ikonia> novasonic: there is no realistic open source version
[20:51] <C6R> I just wanted to say thanks to all of you in Ubuntu, and the computer secerity world itself. Thanks to the people who don't mind helping. Your appreciated.
[20:51] <theadmin> Chrome has Flash, that's about it
[20:51] <novasonic> Dante1: google chrome has a built-in flash support
[20:51] <Dante1> ohhhh cool I wasn't aware of that
[20:51] <novasonic> Dante1: regardless of operating system
[20:52] <macson333> sup guys
[20:52] <Dante1> hello
[20:52] <john_rambo> Dunno why the SAVE button is grayed out in network manager after changing DNS http://imagebin.org/305990
[20:53] <C6R> I just wanted to say thanks to all of you in Ubuntu, and the computer secerity world itself. Thanks to the people who don't mind helping. Your appreciated.
[20:53] <ikonia> C6R: you've said that
[20:53] <C6R> Sorry when I hit enter it updated a lot of chat at once. Didn't know if it got out
[20:54] <Dante1> novasonic: by the way if you're curious about how I got my wireless card running I did a fresh install of Lubuntu 13.10 then I went into terminal and prompted sudo apt-get updates (connected via USB tethering). Then after the update I did sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree. After that I went into additional devices made sure the linux firmware non free was selected, rebooted the system and it worked
[20:54] <macson333>  what did i miss
[20:54] <macson333> sup
[20:55] <xX99oddXx> can anyone help me with this? E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:55] <Dante1> novasonic: Bashing-om pointed me to the right thread to where I found out about the linux firmware nonfree
[20:55] <geirha> xX99oddXx: That error message is useless without the preceding lines
[20:55] <k1l> xX99oddXx: please show the whole output in a pastebin
[20:56] <jhutchins> !paste | xX99oddXx
[20:56] <novasonic> ~
[20:56] <novasonic> w
[20:57] <jhutchins> !flash
[20:57] <jhutchins> Dante1: ^
[20:57] <Enemtee> anyone with experience of compiling programs from source-code? i would need some guiding from a helpful soul :)
[20:58] <jhutchins> Dante1: Sorry for the earlier misinformation.
[20:58] <george2> after a do-release-upgrade on a 13.04 Ubuntu Server, my boot hangs here. http://i.imgur.com/EDa1AzM.png I'm in a recovery mode root shell now. any ideas?
[20:58] <george2> I'm seeing people saying to remove graphics drivers, but I'm not sure what driver the server is using.
[20:58] <Dante1> jutchins: that's okay, thanks for the link :)
[20:58] <jhutchins> george2: Describe the screen where it hangs for those of use who are text-only please.
[20:58] <george2> lshc says the vendor is Matrox
[20:59] <george2> jhutchins: partway through init, on "Stopping Read required files in advance"
[20:59] <george2> no errors shown
[20:59] <jhutchins> george2: Can you get to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[20:59] <xX99oddXx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7263755/ is the whole output
[20:59] <OerHeks> !build | Enemtee
[21:00] <george2> jhutchins: nope
[21:01] <george2> jhutchins: oh, you mean during init, not in recovery mode?
[21:01] <k1l> xX99oddXx: what ubuntu is that exactly? why are you root? do you have PPAs enabled?
[21:01] <jhutchins> xX99oddXx: See lines 5 and 20?
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> i am not an idiot >.> ive tried that already
[21:02] <jhutchins> george2: Yeah, just trying to guess if it's starting X and failing or not getting that far.  That you can do recovery mode is a good sign.
[21:02] <jakemp> Is there a way to move the menu at the top of the default pdf reader to the side, so I can fit a full sized page on my screen?
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> and i am root because we just got the server and our host is eurpoean so hes not responding
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> so we cant setup new
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> users
[21:02] <george2> jhutchins: ok, trying now. This is a server, so I'm not using a graphical environment, if that matters.
[21:03] <k1l> xX99oddXx: firefox on a server?
[21:03] <k1l> xX99oddXx: again: what ubuntu is that exactly? what PPAs are enabled?
[21:03] <jhutchins> !sources.list | xX99oddXx
[21:03] <jhutchins> Make sure you have that set up correctly.
[21:04] <jhutchins> xX99oddXx: I presume that apt-get -f install had problems as well?
[21:04] <sean_s> Hello. Looking for the best channel to ask a question about the Cloud Images - the Vagrant one, specifically.
[21:04] <xX99oddXx> yes
[21:05] <Jordan_U> sean_s: #ubuntu-server is probably your best bet.
[21:07] <george2> jhutchins: ok, logged in to the tty in normal mode
[21:17] <jhutchins> george2: Um, no GUI pretty much negates my course of inquiry.
[21:17] <george2> jhutchins: ha, ok :)
[21:18] <george2> The motd is telling me to run do-release-upgrade, so I'm going to try doing that again and see if it gets me anywhere
[21:19] <xX99oddXx> ugh
[21:19] <like> hey
[21:19] <george2> where would I look for what might be stopping init? dmesg doesn't seem to show anything obvious. boot.log maybe?
[21:19] <Kartagis> what java package do I need for webex webinars?
[21:19] <like> no one ? :O
[21:20] <bekks> Kartagis: you need the webex software.
[21:20] <bekks> Kartagis: And you will need the sun java jdk.
[21:20] <Kartagis> sun
[21:20] <bekks> "Oracle" :)
[21:20] <Kartagis> I got open and wondered why I didn't get through
[21:20] <Dante1> I can watch vine compilations on YouTube :)
[21:20] <Dante1> lol
[21:21] <jhutchins> george2: Yeah, enable bootlog, make sure you're getting verbose startup messages (no "quiet" on boot command line, no splashscreen).
[21:21] <Kartagis> bekks: what is the package name?
[21:22] <jhutchins> !java
[21:22] <Kartagis> I am getting sun-javadb-core
[21:22] <Kartagis> no oracle
[21:22] <bekks> !java | Kartagis
[21:22] <george2> jhutchins: enable bootlog? there is no logging by default?
[21:23] <Dante1> well I'm off, thanks all of you for your help I'll probably be back on here for kicks and giggles
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Dante1: enjoy !
[21:25] <AnthonyUK> Last week I messed up mythtv by upgrading it, couldn't fix it as I'm not a linux pro. My method to fix this after hours/days of trying other stuff is to simply reformat 12.04, then I thought isnt there a new one out soon and there is. my question is what time!
[21:26] <calzifer_> hi, how can i change the unity super 1-9 keyboard shortcuts in 14.04?
[21:30] <jhutchins> !boootlog
[21:30] <jhutchins> !bootlog
[21:30] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[21:30] <OerHeks> calzifer_, wait for a few hours for release 14.04
[21:30] <AnthonyUK> ?
[21:30] <OerHeks> bootchart jhutchins ?
[21:31] <AnthonyUK> does the new version get released at 00:01 UTC ?
[21:31] <bekks> No.
[21:31] <k1l> AnthonyUK: no. mostly on afternoon
[21:31] <bekks> Until 23:59 it should be released.
[21:32] <AnthonyUK> so I could be in for a wait of a bit longer than 24 hours?
[21:32] <bekks> AnthonyUK: yes.
[21:32] <AnthonyUK> thanks bekks
[21:32] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, maybe, join #ubuntu-release-party and you will notice when
[21:32] <AnthonyUK> lol OerHeks I will check out that channel
[21:33] <calzifer_> so no usefull answer for me? :|
[21:33] <tytan> In how many hours will trusty thar be released?
[21:33] <bekks> tytan: Within the next 24,5 hours.
[21:33] <AnthonyUK> I've installed and ran a few different distros but this is the first time I have waited for a new release, so I was wondering will the download servers be able to cope? or is it best to make sure you download via torrent?
[21:34] <tytan> AnthonyUK: Î recommend torrent
[21:34] <Faux> Sometimes someone bothers to pay for Akamai, but the torrents are always excellently seeded.
[21:34] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, as usual: avoid ftp mirrors, use torrent ( and updates will be slow for today)
[21:34] <calzifer_> AnthonyUK: 14.04 is running fine so far - i programmed ~15 hours c++ and java, wrote several latex papers ...
[21:34] <AnthonyUK> Cheers guys and gals
[21:34] <tytan> AnthonyUK: In fact I want to seed from the beginning because I have a very good internet con nection. That's why I asked when it's released exactly :)
[21:35] <KingB> YO dawgs
[21:35] <tytan> yo
[21:35] <AnthonyUK> I have 1 meg upload, its not much but I'd be willing to stop all my regular torrents to help seed this
[21:35] <KingB> what's cracking internet fiends?
[21:35] <bekks> tytan: join #ubuntu-release-party then
[21:35] <KingB> what's the latest on this heartbleed thing?
[21:35] <larrypg> on the other hand...bandwidth is increased quite a bit on realease
[21:36] <tytan> bekks: Didn't know about it, sorry ^^;
[21:36] <bekks> !sslbug | kingb
[21:36] <KingB> cheers for that
[21:36] <KingB> I can sleep easy tonight
[21:36] <KingB> I think
[21:37] <OerHeks> watch -n 60 'curl -s http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   | grep '14.04-desktop' && notify-send "Ubuntu 14.04 Torrent Available :)"'
[21:37] <KingB> thank God for that
[21:37] <AnthonyUK> what is that OerHeks?
[21:38] <bekks> AnthonyUK: The torrent list.
[21:38] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, small script to watch official torrents for 14.04-desktop
[21:38] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: it's clever; I like it
[21:38] <zerowaitstate> never thought of using watch that way
[21:39] <OerHeks> * every 60 seconds
[21:39] <AnthonyUK> I'm on windows right now but if I type it into my homesrver on vnc I will message me the moment 14.04 is released?
[21:39] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, yes, the moment the torrents are announced
[21:39] <AnthonyUK> cool, thanks
[21:40] <penth> nice.  So please take your personal issues out infront of a qualified psychiatrist
[21:44] <KingB> I ain't no noob
[21:45] <KingB> lol Golynx, that was hardcore
[21:45] <r1h> is it out yet?
[21:45] <ikonia> r1h: no
[21:45] <bekks> r1h: Nope.
[21:45] <k1l> guys, he is gone, lets focus on support again :)
[21:45] <delinquentme> error: Appium will not work if used or installed with sudo. Please rerun/install as a non-root user. If you had to install Appium using `sudo npm install -g appium`, the solution is to reinstall Node using a method (Homebrew, for example) that doesn't require sudo to install global npm packages.  <<< ikonia
[21:45] <r1h> but its the 17th?
[21:45] <ikonia> delinquentme what command are you using exactly
[21:45] <ikonia> r1h: so ?
[21:45] <zerenei> f
[21:45] <bekks> r1h: It will be out until 23:59
[21:45] <delinquentme> $ appium
[21:45] <ikonia> r1h: it will be announced when it's out
[21:46] <r1h> 23:39 NZDT?
[21:46] <k1l> !party | r1h
[21:46] <r1h> k1l, thx
[21:46] <k1l> r1h: but its for sure at least 12 hours away.
[21:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: please show me EXACTLY what you are running
[21:47] <delinquentme> theres this fantastic conflict ikonia where node.js is supposed to be installed as non-sudo  ... but none of the ubuntu packages will install without sudo
[21:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: there is no conflict
[21:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: show me EXACTLY what you are running
[21:47] <r1h> k1l, maybe they are doing last minute checks to get gnome 3.12 stable
[21:47] <delinquentme> https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/10936495
[21:48] <delinquentme> lemmet update it
[21:48] <k1l> r1h: i dont think so. the freeze was some time ago
[21:49] <ikonia> delinquentme: how did you install appium ?
[21:50] <delinquentme> ok updated ikonia https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/10936495  ...   The claim is that I need to install node.js without sudo ... so MAYBE the question is how to compile it ... so that I can run it as non-sudo
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: appium is not node.js
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: how did you install appium
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: npm is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: so basically it's user error
[21:51] <ikonia> and nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:52] <delinquentme> $ sudo npm install -g appium
[21:52] <ikonia> delinquentme: so that's your problem/fault
[21:52] <ikonia> delinquentme: npm is NOT the ubuntu package manager, nor is it ubuntu packages
[21:52] <ikonia> delinquentme: infact, those installs are nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:52] <delinquentme> ikonia, gotya
[21:53] <delinquentme> so then it goes down to node.js being installed as non-sudo
[21:53] <delinquentme> SO! how do I do that?
[21:53] <ikonia> delinquentme: no it doesn't
[21:53] <delinquentme> npm runs within node.js no?
[21:53] <ikonia> d	why do you keep saying node.js is hte problem - where in the error message does it say node.js
[21:53] <ikonia> delinquentme: no, not at all
[21:53] <ikonia> delinquentme: https://www.npmjs.org/
[21:54] <delinquentme> npm should be able to install globally sans sudo via node.js
[21:54] <ikonia> delinquentme: what are you talking about ???
[21:54] <ikonia> install globally sans sudo ???
[21:56] <delinquentme> ikonia, reinstall Node using a method (Homebrew, for example) that doesn't require sudo to install global npm packages.
[21:56] <ikonia> no it doesn't say that
[21:56] <ikonia> delinquentme: install the node
[21:56] <ikonia> not node.js
[21:56] <ikonia> the node is appium
[21:57] <ikonia> hence npm being "node package manager"
[21:57]  * delinquentme blinks
[21:58] <delinquentme> if node == appium ... then npm == "node package manager"  >> "appium package manger"
[21:58] <ikonia> delinquentme: I'm sorry, you appear to have no idea what you are doing
[21:58] <cloneG> hey people I have a technical question...
[21:58] <cloneG> I am running ubuntu dual boot with windows 7  and I found this thread: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com.es/2009/11/dual-boot-windows-7-and-os-x-snow.html
[21:58] <ikonia> I suggest you look at learning the basics of the node.js stuff and the node package manager - which is not something I'd suggest you use
[21:59] <cloneG> one hd for each system
[21:59] <k1l> cloneG: that is macOS, not ubuntu
[22:00] <cloneG> k1l I know but I do use ubuntu
[22:00] <ikonia> that doesn't mean we are your technical support for everything non-ubuntu
[22:00] <k1l> cloneG: so what is the ubuntu support question? :)
[22:00] <cloneG> k1l would grub still work ?
[22:00] <ikonia> cloneG: is this on a mac device ?
[22:00] <ikonia> as in an apple computer ?
[22:00] <cloneG> k1l installing the three os
[22:01] <cloneG> one disk for ubuntu and another hd for mac and windows
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:01] <cloneG> intel
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:01] <cloneG> the same page tells the way to install mac on intel
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:01] <cloneG> even pentium 4 succeed!!!!
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: if you don't answer the quesiton you will be rmeoved
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:02] <cloneG> ?
[22:02] <cloneG> which?
[22:02] <ikonia> cloneG: is the device an apple computer
[22:02] <cloneG> no
[22:02] <cloneG> its intel
[22:02] <cloneG> no apple
[22:02] <ikonia> cloneG: ok - so the short answer is "yes" grub will work, however we do not support hackintosh so please don't ask for help
[22:02] <cloneG> oops
[22:02] <betabertus8899> hey guys when will the 14.04 be on the ubuntu site for download?
[22:02] <k1l> !party | betabertus8899
[22:02] <ikonia> betabertus8899: there will be an announcment
[22:03] <betabertus8899> very cool
[22:10] <delinquentme> /usr/local is a typical install dir for programs being used by the current $USER right?
[22:10] <ikonia> no
[22:10] <ikonia> it's up to you %101
[22:10] <ikonia> there is no typical
[22:10] <ikonia>  /usr/local does work though
[22:12] <k1l_> or /home/... or /opt/....   or or or
[22:14] <karab44> hello
[22:15] <humanuser_> When will Ubuntu 14.04 be released finally???
[22:15] <ikonia> humanuser_: some point in the next 24 hours
[22:15] <karab44> I have nvidia and intel HD graphics and wondering is Ubuntu supporting power saving mode for this hybrid?
[22:15] <humanuser_> :P
[22:16] <humanuser_> just wanted to be the first asking this question today :D
[22:16] <ikonia> humanuser_: you failed
[22:16] <karab44> D:
[22:16] <ikonia> it's been asked 50+ times already
[22:16] <karab44> humanuser_: join #ubuntu-release-party
[22:17] <humanuser_> ikonia, NO! you smashed my dreams
[22:17] <karab44> anybody oriented in my case? What do I need to get hybrid working as it should?
[22:17] <ikonia> karab44: it's an argumentative topic - my opinion is "don't depend on it working"
[22:17] <karab44> I pay quite high energy bills last days
[22:17] <humanuser_> karab44, cool, thx
[22:18] <karab44> ikonia: what do you mean? How to measure is it working or not?
[22:18] <ikonia> karab44: it depends on a lot of things and it may work today - fail tomorrow
[22:18] <Bashing-om> karab44: What re;ease are you running -> 13.10 has the better support from ubuntu.
[22:18] <ikonia> "better support" ???
[22:18] <sakang> humanuser_: at least you might be the first fail  .. heheh
[22:18] <karab44> Is it enabled by default?
[22:18] <ikonia> it's a driver from nvidia that deals with it
[22:19] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:19] <karab44> ikonia: generally what you say is not true
[22:19] <karab44> there is nvidia prime and bumblebee
[22:19] <ikonia> karab44: well.....it is true, but if you disagree, why are you asking "does it work"
[22:19] <karab44> ikonia: no it's not
[22:19] <ikonia> then why are you asking if it works ?
[22:20] <ikonia> I've just said it doesn't work - you say "that's not true" - so it does work, why are you asking if it works or not if you already know it does
[22:20] <karab44> I know there's solution, Where did I say it works?
[22:20] <ikonia> karab44: you have your answer "it works"
[22:20] <ikonia> karab44: a solution ?
[22:20] <ikonia> karab44: I said it doesn't work - it's a set of components in flux, you say "that's not true" the opposite of "it doesn't work" is "it works"
[22:21] <Bashing-om> karab44: ikonia : ->https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics <- "we have worked to officially support Hybrid graphics in Ubuntu 13.10 and in 12.04.3 LTS."
[22:21] <ikonia> Bashing-om: yeah, it still fails
[22:21] <ikonia> depending on your card, the nvidia modules and bumblebee
[22:21] <ikonia> it's not something I would suggest you depend on
[22:21] <ikonia> however that's up to you if you want to
[22:22] <zengr> Hello, this code works from command line but doesn't work when I place it in crontab @reboot: httptime=$(curl http://www.timeapi.org/utc/now) && date -s "$httptime" Any suggestions?
[22:22] <karab44> ikonia: this is normal if you use something you paid for
[22:22] <ikonia> karab44: errr not if it's not supported/doesn't work dependable
[22:23] <ikonia> karab44: hence "don't depend on it"
[22:23] <karab44> in my case it's hybrid technology and I want to use it and get profit of more efficient power management
[22:23] <ikonia> zengr: check your paths
[22:23] <ikonia> karab44: ok, so try to use it then
[22:23] <ikonia> karab44: see how you get on
[22:23] <zengr> ikonia: Not sure what you mean, check for what in PATH?
[22:23] <BarnabasDK> karab44, to my exp, you do  not save that much by going by the non discrete chipset
[22:23] <ikonia> zengr: the commands, crontab doesn't have a fully set up shell env
[22:24] <ikonia> zengr: or try puttin the commands in a shell script and calling the shell script from cron
[22:24] <BarnabasDK> karab44, depends mostly on what you do with it
[22:24] <zengr> ikonia: I see, okay. Let me try it out
[22:24] <karab44> BarnabasDK: most of time desktop
[22:24] <BarnabasDK> karab44, for me too, I just stick with the discrete setting
[22:25] <karab44> so I don't need 580gtx to work on full throttle
[22:25] <jtran> anyone know if ther's anything i can do to stop ubuntu from trying to modify my /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:25] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the nvidia driver supports adaptive clocking
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran:  it shouldn't modify it
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran: what's modifying it ?
[22:25] <jtran> i hvae a static /etc/network/interface and it keeps trying to add eth4 dhcp  when i've left it out on purpose
[22:25] <karab44> BarnabasDK: you mean nvidia settings discrete config?
[22:25] <karab44> how to set that?
[22:25] <BarnabasDK> karab44, yes
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran: is it disabled in network manager ?
[22:25] <jtran> and also i've created an interface bond1.2002 with a gateway setting that keeps removng the gateway line
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran: do you have anything configure in network manager ?
[22:25] <jtran> ikonia:  i don't think so it's ubntu server i'm trying to configure everything thru cli only since ono gui
[22:26] <karab44> BarnabasDK: and what will happen when I set to discrete and launch CAD/Blender/A game ?
[22:26] <BarnabasDK> karab44, never really have seen the use for the intel gpu chipset, I think its a bit of a waste
[22:26] <ikonia> jtran: network manager is also available without a gui
[22:26] <jtran> ikonia: kk i'll look into that.
[22:26] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the "discrete" setting is using the full on nvidia card afaik?
[22:26] <BarnabasDK> is on my lappie
[22:27] <karab44> BarnabasDK: I don't care are intel will work together with nvidia. It's not big profit. I want that intel work instead nvidia in desktop
[22:27] <jtran> ikonia:  isn't that unusual tho that network manager tries to modify my custom network/interfaces file?  i haven't seen that before or not noticed it
[22:27] <ikonia> jtran:  it shouldn't be doing that - but it's the most logical starting point, also check the init scripts, and those triggered by udev
[22:27] <jtran> kk
[22:27] <ikonia> jtran: nothing should be modifying it on the fly from my perspective
[22:28] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the intel gpu will  *only* work on your lappies screen
[22:28] <zengr> ikonia: That ddn't work, I created a file, chmod a+x it and placed it in @reboot. It still didn't update the time
[22:28] <BarnabasDK> karab44, with the right setting for the nvidia gpu, you do not really save any juice
[22:28] <karab44> BarnabasDK: Did you mean adaptive mode? It's set to adaptive already
[22:28] <ikonia> zengr: can you run the script manually
[22:28] <zengr> yes
[22:28] <zengr> it works manually
[22:28] <ikonia> zengr: can you pastebin the script please.
[22:28] <zengr> sure
[22:29] <BarnabasDK> karab44, I am talking about your setting in the bios
[22:29] <hikenboot> how do i compair files and folders and folders and files in that folder with another directory...looking for differences in permissions only
[22:29] <dioioib> did you run the script with ./<scriptname>
[22:29] <BarnabasDK> karab44, I just run with the "discrete" setting there
[22:29] <karab44> BarnabasDK: No, I am asking about nvidia-settings card mode
[22:29] <karab44> so discrete is BIOS settings somewhere?
[22:29] <BarnabasDK> karab44, that does not affect the intel gpu in any way
[22:30] <natedawg> Hey guys im new to linux though have been using it for years and i love it but i want to understand it more fundementedly
[22:30] <BarnabasDK> karab44, in windows the driver can switch between two gpus depending on your need - not so in linux afaik
[22:30] <natedawg> Will my linux + help?
[22:30] <zengr> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/RS2DTFBN
[22:30] <ikonia> natedawg: you're what ?
[22:31] <BarnabasDK> karab44, you need to choose
[22:31] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the intel gpu or the nvidia
[22:31] <ikonia> zengr: ok, so pretty much ignored everything I said
[22:31] <ikonia> zengr: I told you crontab has no VALID SHELL SETUP
[22:31] <ikonia> zengr: so it doesn't know where "curl" is
[22:31] <ikonia> it doesn't know where "date" is
[22:31] <karab44> I just take a look at nvidia-settings and PowerMizer shows nice G-Cl 50MHz MemCl 135MHz PrcCl 101MHz so it's very nice. Wondering how rated is Intel HD
[22:32] <karab44> BarnabasDK: bumblebee and nvidia-prime allows hybrid tech to work
[22:32] <karab44> generally...
[22:32] <BarnabasDK> karab44, on a per application level yes
[22:32] <zengr> ikonia: Ah. So how can I get passed this? I cannot use ntp because the port 123 is blocked
[22:32] <zengr> ikonia: I need to update the time on everyreboot
[22:32] <ikonia> zengr: set the path in the script AS I TOLD YOU
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: really - try paying attention to what is being given to you when you ask for help
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: if you don't understand, just say
[22:33] <karab44> BarnabasDK: so once again, I have to look for discrete somewhere in my PC BIOS ? And this discrete is related to intel HD card?
[22:33] <kupo_> does autoremove and autoclean not work the same on mint?
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: but it's really frustrating to ask for help - get help, you ignore it and just get no-where
[22:33] <kupo_> never shows a list or anything when i do so
[22:33] <zengr> ikonia: I dont understand what you say "set the path in the script".
[22:33] <zengr> ikonia: sorry about that
[22:33] <BarnabasDK> karab44, yes it will turn it off effectively, and just use the nvidia gpu with the powermizer mode
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: do you understand how a shell works with it's environment variables ?
[22:34] <k1l_> kupo_: mint works different, please ask them
[22:34] <k1l_> !mint | kupo_
[22:34] <zengr> ikonia: yes
[22:34] <BarnabasDK> "autoclocking"
[22:34] <karab44> brb
[22:34] <ikonia> zengr: ok, so look at the $PATH variable - cron doesn't have that setup
[22:34] <kupo_> alrighty. no a big deal. thanks it's not my primary OS> just have it on a laptop
[22:34] <ikonia> zengr: so either set it, or use absoluate paths to the binaries
[22:34] <qin> kupo_: maybe they are aliased with -y; who knows?
[22:35] <zengr> ikonia: Ok, so what should be the value of $PATH in my script? "export $PATH=/bin/"
[22:35] <ikonia> zengr: set it to what you feel is right for the binaries you are using
[22:35] <zengr> ok
[22:35] <ikonia> and export $PATH won't work, PATH is the variable, not $PATH
[22:35] <zengr> ikonia: ok
[22:37] <Glycan> Dropbox messed up, I want to stop using it, but it still pops up telling me to log in every startup. How can I change this?
[22:38] <ikonia> remove the package
[22:38] <andrewvos> Erm, I deleted a whole lot of files in my home directory by mistake. Do I need to recreate it?
[22:38] <andrewvos> There's a whole lot of things gone from .config
[22:38] <ikonia> depends what you removed
[22:39] <ikonia> see what breaks and fix it
[22:39] <andrewvos> What would be a problem if I remove dit?
[22:39] <ikonia> depends what you had in there
[22:39] <andrewvos> All I care about is system stability really
[22:39] <ikonia> andrewvos: then just fix any problems as they happen
[22:39] <Glycan> $ sudo apt-get purge dropbox
[22:39] <peterrooney> andrewvos: if it's in your home directory, your system stability is fine.
[22:39] <Glycan> E: Unable to locate package dropbox
[22:40] <andrewvos> peterrooney, ikonia cool thanks
[22:40] <andrewvos> Luckily everything important was in ~/Dropbox
[22:40] <andrewvos> So i should be ok, when it finishes downloading in the year 2025
[22:40] <ikonia> what ?
[22:41] <andrewvos> Never mind I'm making a joke about dropbox being slow.
[22:41] <Glycan> ikonia: uh, what I said above
[22:42] <ikonia> Glycan: what?
[22:42] <Glycan> E: Unable to locate package dropbox
[22:42] <ikonia> Glycan: is that the name of the package you installed ?
[22:42] <Glycan> dropbox
[22:42] <Glycan> afair I installed from a script
[22:42] <ikonia> Glycan: then look at what that script did
[22:43] <ikonia> Glycan: and undo it
[22:43] <Glycan> oh yeah, that's gotta be easier than looking through all of the startup things
[22:44] <ikonia> what startup "things"
[22:45] <Mordor> Hi guys. Can I find from somewhere what new features were added at 14.04 ?
[22:45] <adam_____> I've created a samba share on my Ubuntu box. But browsing pictures takes a long time. How can I use thumbnails to quickly browse the pictures from my Android tablet?? On vacation right now, trying to sort photos.
[22:46] <ikonia> adam_____: the viewer you are using needs to support thumbnails
[22:46] <ikonia> adam_____: it' client not server functionality
[22:46] <karab44> hmm
[22:46] <karab44> I just enabled 64bit hpet
[22:46] <Glycan> ikonia: well, it starts on startup - there's like, inittab or fstab or whatever it was that had the stuff for startup, so it's got to be in somewhere there, right?
[22:46] <ikonia> Glycan: no
[22:46] <karab44> but haven't find any discrete option for intel HD... well I could disable it but I didn't
[22:46] <adam_____> ikonia: really? I thought they were supposed to be generated by the machine
[22:47] <craze> Mordor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[22:47] <Glycan> ikonia: how so?
[22:47] <ikonia> Glycan: there are many ways it can be started, and just removing the startup script - doesn't stop other functionality from running, hence removing it/undoing what that script did is correct
[22:47] <Glycan> how could it be started?
[22:47] <ikonia> adam_____: if the client can display them though is the problem though
[22:47] <ikonia> Glycan: many ways, hence why looking what that script does is key
[22:48] <adam_____> ikonia: where are the thumbnails stored?
[22:48] <ikonia> adam_____: normally on demand from your client
[22:49] <natedawg> Hey guys where can i go to become proficient in the bash shell and the command line
[22:49] <natedawg> ?
[22:49] <Glycan> thank you
[22:49] <ikonia> natedawg: many guides on the internet
[22:49] <ikonia> natedawg: keep in mind this channel supports ubuntu linux, not generic linux questions
[22:49] <Glycan> natedawg: the advice I was given was to read man complages completely whenever you want to figure out something
[22:49] <adam_____> ikonia: really.. what part of Ubuntu or samba provides that?
[22:50] <ikonia> adam_____: non, it's client
[22:50] <natedawg> They dont always explain everything
[22:50] <Glycan> as in, whenever you would do something, instead of finding just what you want, read the whole documentation for that tool
[22:50] <Glycan> preferably with references
[22:50] <adam_____> ikonia: that defeats the purpose, it would have to transfer the whole file to do that
[22:50] <ikonia> adam_____: no, it wouldn't
[22:51] <Bashing-om> natedawg: Look at -> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[22:52] <karab44> The cool thing is that hybrid gpu will be detected by default on 1404 or maybe available for enabling. For now I leave it as it is, especially that my PCIE card works in 50Mhz
[22:52] <q0> I can't find resources on how to forward internet connection with ethernet from linux to unix ?
[22:52] <ikonia> q0: what are you trying to do exactly ?
[22:53] <Kingen> hello taiwan ...
[22:53] <Kingen> Skilled peoples, but why hide the original coders ?
[22:53] <q0> there's no other way to provide access to the second system
[22:53] <ikonia> Kingen: what do you want ?
[22:53] <Kingen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsjX1xymU0
[22:53] <ikonia> Kingen: please don't post those urls
[22:53] <ikonia> q0: explain what you are trying to do, as what you are saying does not make sense
[22:54] <frankest> how do you enable wireless power saving on wlan0
[22:54] <ikonia> Kingen: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[22:54] <q0> ikonia, simply, provide internet access from my linux to the other one
[22:54] <Kingen> Ikonia: To meet skilled coders i suppose
[22:54] <ikonia> Kingen: ok, so this is not the channel you need
[22:54] <q0> from ubuntu*
[22:54] <k1l_> !ot > Kingen
[22:54] <ikonia> q0: ok, so how are you trying to do this
[22:55] <q0> I tried the iptables without any success
[22:55] <Kingen> ikonia: << ios << a <<  delete; or what do you want to do with your life ?
[22:55] <Kingen> :)
[22:55] <Glycan> ot!
[22:55] <Glycan> !ot
[22:56] <ikonia> Kingen: final reminder, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only
[22:56] <q0> with masquerade
[22:56] <ikonia> q0: so you're trying to setup forward/masqurade rules with iptables
[22:56] <q0> yes
[22:56] <ikonia> q0: ok, so what's the rule you've setup
[22:56] <ikonia> (as in show me the exact iptable rule)
[22:57] <delinquentme> is the path at $ which java ... a good path to use to set JAVA_HOME ?
[22:57] <ikonia> delinquentme: no
[22:57] <ikonia> delinquentme: thats the binary path
[22:57] <ikonia> where you put JAVA_HOME is up to you
[22:58] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, aarh if you stick to a std jdk install
[22:58] <BarnabasDK> not quite true is it?
[22:58] <ikonia> what ?
[22:59] <BlueEagle> q0: If you do not want to do iptables by hand, there are a lot of alternatives. If you have not considered alternatives already, might I suggest Shorewall? It is my go-to place for both firewall and routing within my home network. There are of course also other alternatives.
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> the jdks and jres install in /usr/lib/jvm
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> so
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> java home is
[22:59] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: which java is where the binary is - the binary is not the same as the classpath
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/<jvm>
[22:59] <ikonia> no
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> yes
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> path set to
[22:59] <ikonia> JAVA_HOME is not the class path
[22:59] <ikonia> the class path is not where the binary is
[23:00] <ikonia> JAVA_HOME should be before the binary
[23:00] <ikonia> CLASS_PATH should be wherer the classes are
[23:00] <BarnabasDK> export ${JAVA_HOME}/bin
[23:00] <BarnabasDK> and you are flying
[23:00] <ikonia> so blindly putting it where "which java" is is wrong
[23:00] <BarnabasDK> agree with that
[23:00] <Glycan> flying?
[23:00] <q0> thank you BlueEagle ! Just to clarify it though ikonia , ubuntu connects to wlan0 and i try to share it with eth0 to unix system, "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE" somehow did not work. I also set the ip.forwarding 1
[23:01] <ikonia> q0: have you got iptables forwarding enabled at the kernel level
[23:01] <ikonia> eg: in the sysctl or pro
[23:01] <q0> yes
[23:01] <ikonia> proc
[23:01] <BarnabasDK> I assume the call is for using java / javac from the command line
[23:01] <ikonia> q0: that is not a valid iptables rule
[23:01] <BarnabasDK> or "shell"
[23:02] <BarnabasDK> bash
[23:02] <ikonia> q0: you're missing source, destination, input, etc
[23:02] <Guest94242> hi, uh, my window manager has frozen, i managed to ctrl+alt+t a terminal and connect to irssi (right now), but i cant click anything with my mouse lol. is there a way to restart the window manager from terminal without rebooting? i dont want to lose all my work
[23:03] <q0> I had a feeling i was missing something lol. I'll read the manpage and figure it out, if I can't shorewall looks nice
[23:04] <Judy18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy
[23:04] <Guest94242> anyone? :'(
[23:05] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, java home is in the folder above the bin folder
[23:05] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: not always, as I've said typing which java and setting java_home blindly is wrong
[23:05] <ikonia> if you want to do that - that's fine,
[23:06] <BarnabasDK> if you do a std openjdk install on a ubuntu server or desktop it is always like that
[23:06] <BarnabasDK> via apt
[23:06] <dioioib> Guest94242: can you drop to a terminal session?
[23:06] <ikonia> you don't know what he's done, and based on his use of extenral packages for other components earlier - it is not a safe assumption
[23:06] <ikonia> so again - blindly doing it is wrong
[23:06] <ikonia> I'm not sure what you're trying to prove / argue with this
[23:06] <BarnabasDK> nore me you?
[23:07] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: so stop then
[23:07] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, have it your way
[23:08] <adam_____> ikonia: the guys on the Android irc say it has to be pre generated on the server side as jpeg doesn't contain thumbnail data
[23:08] <ikonia> adam_____: ok, so you need an application to generate thumbnails, such as image magic
[23:09] <ikonia> imagemagik too
[23:09] <hikenboot> guys, thanks for the help that was great I changed it around just a little so now I have a text file with each line says chmod 640 director/path/to/some/file as an example I would like to actually execute each line of text as a command how do I get it to take the each line and instead of just printing text, executing it?
[23:10] <hikenboot> never mind figured it out...make it a #/bin/bash!
[23:11] <delinquentme> >_< BarnabasDK
[23:12] <kieppie> ?countdown
[23:13] <locodir-user> is trusty out of beta now ?
[23:13] <ikonia> it's not released yet
[23:14] <ikonia> any time in the next 24 hours
[23:14] <locodir-user> Ooo, Wonder how much stuff is going to break xD
[23:14] <OerHeks> kieppie, count down in #ubuntu-release-party
[23:14] <kieppie> ikonia: cheers - been looking for the countdown timer as per previous releases. already 17th here in NZ
[23:14] <Guest8112> hi
[23:14] <kieppie> cheers
[23:15] <Guest8112> Can i ask you all one question about ubuntu?
[23:16] <ikonia> thats what the channel is here for
[23:16] <AnthonyUK> you can't ask me as I dont know much about ubuntu
[23:17] <Guest8112> whats is the best way for getting flash working on youtube, gnash?
[23:17] <ikonia> use the html5 version of youtube
[23:17] <zengr> ikonia: Not sure but I tried this too, it still doesn't work. http://pastebin.com/Wb0Cqdf1
[23:17] <ikonia> depending on flash is a waste as it's a dead product
[23:17] <zengr> ikonia: I am running it under sudo
[23:17] <zengr> i mean root
[23:18] <ikonia> zengr: root ? the root account is locked
[23:18] <ikonia> zengr: what's the crontab line you are calling this from
[23:18] <k1l_> zengr: ubuntu doesnt support the raspberry arm cpu
[23:18] <ikonia> k1l_: didn't spot tht
[23:18] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu then
[23:19] <semw> Help! :(. Computer froze half-way through a distro upgrade (ubuntu 13.10->14.04).  No response, even to ctrl-alt-F1 etc. BUT - I can ssh into it from my laptop just fine. any suggestions on how to use ssh access to rescue this?
[23:20] <Guest8112> oke in lamers langues i want to see youtube on linux what to do?
[23:20] <ikonia> Guest8112: use the html5 version of youtube
[23:20] <kostkon> Guest8112: install flash
[23:20] <Guest8112> html5 explain please?
[23:21] <ikonia> Guest8112: google html5 youtube
[23:21] <ikonia> Guest8112: you enable it in the browser
[23:21] <Guest8112> oke i will thx
[23:29] <Feel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsjX1xymU0
[23:34] <Jake0720> Anything interesting to do on Ubuntu without internet connection?
[23:35] <tiglionabbit> I’m trying to use ubuntu in virtualbox on a mac but it is extremely slow. The fade-in/out effects especially kill it.  I guess hardware graphics acceleration is not working?  How can I get it working?  Or can I disable these special effects?
[23:39] <Agamanon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZn9xG0CLN4
[23:42] <GrimaceXL> Hey guys quick question for ya, trying to mount a samba share using fstab and one of my shares works fine... the other causes a disconnected from Plymouth error on boot
[23:43] <daftykins> does it still mount?
[23:43] <GrimaceXL> both are hosted by my router in its usb ports, one its ext3 and the other is NTFS
[23:43] <GrimaceXL> yes they do
[23:44] <daftykins> ooh-err
[23:44] <GrimaceXL> when using smbmount they work fine
[23:44] <daftykins> smbclient?
[23:44] <GrimaceXL> come again?
[23:44] <cuddylier> Is it possible to put nginx on a box already with apache on it just to test?
[23:45] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: nm, well anyway plymouth is just the boot logo i thought, so surely it's not doing any harm?
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> no but it doesnt mount
[23:45] <qin> Jake0720: clear; while [ 1 ]; do echo $RANDOM; sleep 2; done
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> oic what you were asking
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> it doesnt mount unless i envoke it manually
[23:45] <daftykins> so mount -a?
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> the entry in fstab doesnt work
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> ill try that one sec
[23:46] <daftykins> ok, what you want to do is unmount it then run "mount -a" to see in "dmesg | tail" what's going wrong
[23:46] <GrimaceXL> ok willdo
[23:46] <GrimaceXL> think i found it
[23:46] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: you could pastebin the fstab entries for us too to take a look
[23:47] <GrimaceXL> i found a syntax error so im going to fix that 1st and see if it is still a problem
[23:49] <davidrsmorris> I want to count how many times each date appears in a file, thus ending with a list of dates in a range with numbers of occurrences of an event per day.  What would be the best way of doing that?
[23:49] <cuddylier> Is it possible to put nginx on a box already with apache on it just to test?
[23:50] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: sounds like a plan
[23:50] <daftykins> cuddylier: i'd bet as default it'd try and override port 80, so maybe if you stopped apache first, installed nginx, reconfigured that, then restarted apache...
[23:50] <daftykins> cuddylier: but really it's asking for trouble if it's a production box
[23:51] <cuddylier> Yeah, thing is I want to test nginx alongside apache on the production box under the load it's under
[23:51] <cuddylier> To test to see if it's really that much more efficient
[23:51] <daftykins> are you having memory consumption issues?
[23:51] <cuddylier> No
[23:51] <cuddylier> Just issues with control panel software I use being very slow
[23:52] <cuddylier> While other users of the software have no issues in the same location with lots of users using it being fast.
[23:52] <cuddylier> It could take maybe 4-5 seconds to change page whereas on other sites it's maybe 1 second max
[23:52] <daftykins> so you're in the minority?
[23:52] <ikonia> cuddylier: have you looked in the apache access and error logs to see what it's doing ?
[23:52] <cuddylier> Not in detail before no
[23:52] <cuddylier> Just in /var/logs?
[23:52] <ikonia> cuddylier: have you looked at the load on the apache process against the ammount of forked processes
[23:53] <daftykins> ikonia's idea makes more sense than throwing the whole web server out
[23:53] <ikonia> cuddylier: ok, so you have no idea the current state - yet you want to test if something else is better
[23:53] <ikonia> basically you shouldn't be running a web server
[23:53] <cuddylier> Yeah, I didn't think there was anyway to see what apache was doing.
[23:53] <cuddylier> I'm quite nooby yes.
[23:53] <GrimaceXL> @daftykins http://pastebin.com/Tip27sfe my stab
[23:53] <GrimaceXL> *fstab
[23:53] <cuddylier> Also I wasn't sure if a SSD would make all that much more difference on top of nginx
[23:53] <daftykins> stab at fstab :D
[23:54] <GrimaceXL> when mount -a i get "[mntent]: line 13 in /etc/fstab is bad mount error(16): Device or resource busy Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)"
[23:54] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: i see a $ at the end of the file instead of a second 0
[23:55] <GrimaceXL> ill be honest i dont under stand the syntax of the fstab file and just copy pasta'd somebody elses work lol
[23:55] <GrimaceXL> thanks
[23:55] <daftykins> D:
[23:55] <daftykins> also IPs are always far better than hostnames
[23:55] <riceandbeans> your web site makes mention of v14 being out, but no download availability, what's up with thatL
[23:56] <GrimaceXL> oh yeah i meant to use the ip as well since its the router and will always be static lol
[23:56] <bigboystyx02> hello
[23:56] <GrimaceXL> thanks ive fixed it and waiting for the box to reboot
[23:56] <daftykins> riceandbeans: where do you see release?
[23:57] <riceandbeans> the main page
[23:57] <bigboystyx02> anybody have any ideas why mdadm is slow unless I put the cpu under a load???
[23:57] <riceandbeans> though fridge says you intend to release tomorrow
[23:57] <riceandbeans> I don't like conflicting information
[23:57] <daftykins> riceandbeans: the front page of ubuntu.com refers to openstack to me
[23:57] <GrimaceXL> im making a ubuntu server seedbox that has sickbeard and sabnzbd and it worked great when the hdd's were local, but where im putting it there's no room for hdds to be plugged in locally so im hosting the drives on my router
[23:57] <daftykins> riceandbeans: it doesn't say anything about being released
[23:57] <daftykins> riceandbeans: and i don't like people that don't read :)
[23:57] <C6R> davidrsmorris man sort man uniq
[23:58] <riceandbeans> daftykins: riddle me this, what raid levels will the ubuntu installer support out of the box?
[23:58] <riceandbeans> software raid
[23:58] <daftykins> no idea
[23:58] <riceandbeans> what filesystems will 14 support out of the box
[23:58] <daftykins> no idea
[23:58] <riceandbeans> and what type of support for ZFS
[23:59] <daftykins> no idea
[23:59] <riceandbeans> is there any documentation?
[23:59] <daftykins> !documentation
[23:59] <riceandbeans> right, so there's no docs
[23:59]  * TehCaptain cracks a beer because this is funny
[23:59] <GrimaceXL> lol
[23:59] <daftykins> riceandbeans: there'll be release notes if you actually look them up
[23:59] <ikonia> riceandbeans: zfs is not available
[23:59] <riceandbeans> a 6 year old wiki doesn't matter to me
[23:59] <riceandbeans> ikonia: that's a bold faced lie
[23:59] <GrimaceXL> *autism intensifies*
[23:59] <riceandbeans> ikonia: FUSE has been around for some time to support it
[23:59] <ikonia> riceandbeans: err no, it's not
[23:59]  * TehCaptain hopes the driver for his commodore 1541 drive finally made it in