[00:03] <valorie> wondering how long i should wait for it
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[00:17] <valorie> bailed on it
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[00:21] <mparillo> valorie: The connect to wireless bug is exactly the kind of bug that would not show in VM testing (my network connection in a VM is always eth0).
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[00:30] <valorie> screw this
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[00:30] <valorie> I can't get the installer to stop freezing
[00:30] <valorie> over and over
[00:30] <valorie> I'll test 64 instead
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[00:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[02:33] <valorie> wow, uefi and oem were available, so I
[02:33] <valorie> tested that
[02:33] <valorie> success until the final step
[02:33] <valorie> ....
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 @acheronuk, what does it mean when an application is in parenthesis? like (appname) … I ask because there is no legend or consistency to figure it out. I assumed "core package" but there are other core packages that do not have the ()
 @MichaelTun, Recommended by the metapackage.
 oh ok thanks
[02:44] <valorie> pfff, it won't log in
[02:45] <valorie> not sure I can ubuntu-bug ubiquity without a gui
[02:45] <valorie> trying anyway
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 https://t.co/78XF3rfEKz
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 @ahoneybun, now whenever Look and Feel themes because actually useful that would be great
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 L&F themes are a good idea with problematic implementation and with documentation that is almost saddening
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 look and feel in the installer?
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[04:20] <valorie> ok, trying out mate i386 to see if it's just US or just ME
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[04:21] <valorie> ahoneybun: it will be cool to see how calamares works out in lubuntu 18.04
[04:21] <valorie> if it works for them, I don't see why it can't work for us
[04:22] <valorie> ubiquity is sucking
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 Calamares is quite nice although the devs on github aren't always that nice. :)
 Nah, just that one guy
 @tsimonq2, ok that one guy isnt that nice then :)
 that's fair, I've seen a couple instances where he's a bit grumpy but only that one
[04:36] <valorie> hmmmm, we do need a change to something different
[04:36] <valorie> mate is a much better experience than ours
 Feature Freeze is tomorrow at 21 UTC. I've sorted latte-dock, Qupzilla/Falkon, and kio-gdrive. Any last requests?
[04:36] <valorie> fewer choices to make
[04:37] <valorie> tsimonq2: did we ever get the comics application?
[04:37] <valorie> it's been so long I can't remember the name
 peruse
[04:38] <valorie> yup
[04:38] <valorie> !info peruse
[04:38] <valorie> :(
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 @acheronuk If you can finish up the peruse packaging (copyright checks, pedantic Lintian runthrough, the works) by 12:30 UTC I'll upload it
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 @tsimonq2, wait does this affect my suggestions too?
 @MichaelTun, Are they features?
 depends on the definition really
 Then ask a member of the Release Team
 like adding default shortcuts for the tiling features in KWin
 slangasek and infinity e.g. are kool
 @MichaelTun, Ask :)
 @tsimonq2, who
 I'm the on air talent . . . I'm not suppose to know this stuff :)
 Fwd from tsimonq2: slangasek and infinity e.g. are kool
 via irc I assume?
 #ubuntu-release maybe
 But yea
 ok
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[05:14] <valorie> I marked amd64 as ready
 😎
[05:15] <valorie> dunno if we have ANY i386 tests on actual i386 machines
[05:15] <valorie> therefore I refuse to mark it ready
[05:15] <valorie> mine were all a fail, but MATE's  i386 iso passes for me
 data collection to find out how many people actually use i386 would be nice :)
[05:16] <valorie> so it is not my machine
[05:16] <valorie> indeed
[05:16] <valorie> we have some
[05:16] <valorie> maybe even a LOT
[05:16] <valorie> but if they won't help test......
[05:16] <valorie> this is not sustainable
[05:17] <MichaelTunnell> that's reasonable
[05:18] <valorie> no more testing for me tonight
[05:18] <valorie> it's exhausting when the results are not good
[05:18] <valorie> especially when I'm unable to file good quality bug reports
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[11:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[11:58] <santa_> good morning
[12:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning santa_
[12:01] <acheronuk> hi santa_
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 Santa I would appreciate it if you would fasttrack getting the tooling to bump build deps in debian/tests/control too
 It's gotten to the point where it's high priority; it often times makes transitions easier
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 @tsimonq2, That wouldn't stop the tests running and failing
 @acheronuk, Then it's just a simple retry away
 @tsimonq2, as they are now
 If anything, autopkgtests should be integrated into the rebuild script
 Then we can just sit back and have them go
 That is soemthing different
 It would make it easier
 our tooling can always be a bit more inteligent
 @Valoriez think we should post here for testing? https://community.ubuntu.com/c/quality
 guesting we are dropping i386 support.
 *guessing
 Probably an 18.10 thing but yeah
 For Lubuntu, we're keeping it, but with Kubuntu, it should probably go
 we can't release a 16.04.4 release as there has been no testing for i386
 then let's drop it. Not sure what the value is in keeping it alive for an apparently dwindling crowd of people who don't want to help us help them
 let's focus our resources on the vast majority and make life better for them
 @nggraham, they complained when we suggested dropping it and then don't test.
 I feel like if they really want it then they can fork Kubuntu and do it.
 +1, we can't please everyone, especially people who ask for work but aren't willing tp put in any themselves to help make it happen
 my vote is for dropping it
 @ahoneybun We had to be this way with PowerPC in Lubuntu? … Remember that wxl?
 but this is a KC voting matter.
 s/Lubuntu?/Lubuntu/
[18:14] <wxl> yep
 @ahoneybun, I disagree, it's a Kubuntu Release Team matter
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[19:10] <blaze> grr debconf went crazy
[19:10] <blaze> now I hate perl even more
[19:39] <blaze> okay, after reboot everything works as it supposed to
[19:39] <blaze> now the question is: what happened?
 Santa I would appreciate it if you would fasttrack getting the tooling to bump build deps in debian/tests/control too
[20:10] <santa_> that might get things better or worse, it depends, I would need to dig into it
 It makes things better
 @tsimonq2, how?
[20:11] <santa_> it depends how the ubuntu infra behaves
 @acheronuk, Makes sure erroneous failures won't happen due to old versions
 @santa_, Apt pinning disables -proposed and pulls packages only if needed. all-proposed removes the pinning
 @tsimonq2, no. instead of failing due to erroneous old versions. it will just fail on unsatisfied deps
[20:13] <santa_> as I said it depends on how the ubuntu infra behaves
 doesn't gain us anything. the test still needs to be re-run
[20:14] <santa_> you have just described the 2 possibilities
 @acheronuk, I'll fix Britney and the autopkgtest tooling so it retries those on new deps becoming available then
 @tsimonq2, I suggested that to Laney a while back I think. e.g. group say PIM together so britney does not trigger tests until all the stack is built
 he did not want to implement if I recall, but could be done I guess
 @acheronuk, Suggested =/ implemented … I'll fasttrack the implementation on the autopkgtest side if the tooling is adjusted to use it
 or we could just kill the tests......
[20:17] <santa_> anyway, let's move on
[20:18] <santa_> acheronuk: so... what's going on with the new queue? the status pages doesn't work apparently
[20:19] <acheronuk> which status page?
[20:19] <santa_> the cron jobs seem wrong to me but you might have a better view since I have been absent for a while
[20:19] <santa_> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/
[20:19] <santa_> ↑ the status pages for staging packages
[20:20] <acheronuk> oh. weegie. Jonathan upgraded 'weegie' to trusty from xenial
[20:20] <acheronuk> so LP lib on there no longer works
[20:21] <acheronuk> he's going to re-do that and put it back to xenial or later. sometime....
[20:22] <santa_> do we have another server where we could work?
[20:22] <acheronuk> santa_: so what are you asking? there is nothing much staged at the moment.
[20:22] <santa_> well plasma 5.8.9
[20:22] <santa_> I wanted to check the status pages just in case
[20:23] <santa_> also I wanted to test the latest ka 2.1 rc 2 before actually releasing it
[20:23] <acheronuk> I've been making a local page for myself when staging. it's simple to do
[20:23] <acheronuk> they could be done on linode and sftpd to someones people.ubuntu.com space I guess
[20:24] <acheronuk> Riddell: any news on weegie being back on >= xenial?
[20:25] <acheronuk> I guess byetmeark may also be able to host them
[20:43] <blaze> just found that debconf is a horrible swarm of bugs with terryfying corner cases
[20:44] <blaze> my world will never be the same
[20:57] <acheronuk> santa_: any isea for the akonadi-search acc test? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BJPdvK89g6/
[20:57] <acheronuk> *idea
[21:02] <santa_> acheronuk: I would need to check with more time, I'm about to leave the computer. btw I'm aware that they are various failing so maybe you could use my help tomorrow
 Feature Freeze!
[21:04] <santa_> Bug Fixing!
 :D
 @tsimonq2, FFE frenzy
 16.04.4 published
[21:21] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Xenial 16.04.4] has been marked as ready
[21:43] <valorie> ahoneybun: we did end up with some successful bare-metal tests on i386, however none that I know of on actual 386 machines
[21:44] <valorie> I will not do this again after 18.04 and am seriously wondering if we should do it for the LTS even
[21:45] <valorie> this was an ungood experience
[22:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi-search build #210: STILL FAILING in 3 min 38 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi-search/210/
[22:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_akonadi-search build #124: STILL FAILING in 3 min 39 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_akonadi-search/124/
[22:26] <valorie> now happily updating my 16.04.3 torrents to .4 though
 sory I wasn't able to test. have been doing bionic stuff most of the day :/
[22:28] <acheronuk> *sorry
[22:28] <valorie> don't be sorry
[22:29] <valorie> you are doing your job, and I'm doing mine
[22:29] <valorie> I'm sorry we are gonna lose the i386 people, but I'm not willing to tilt with windmills any more
[22:31] <acheronuk> what about the Taiwan users? they were a major i386 audience still?
 maybe they should test then ;)
[22:32] <wxl> fwiw i think most lubuntu users are using amd64, or are at least capable of it. we're still supporting i386, but that's got more to do with our philosophy as a flavour than the need to support our users.
[22:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi-search build #211: STILL FAILING in 2 min 34 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi-search/211/
[22:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_akonadi-search build #125: STILL FAILING in 3 min 33 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_akonadi-search/125/
 @nggraham, good point
 kubuntu needs to proritise on what we do well, and have the resourses to do. trying for too wide a remit is spreading us too thin.
[22:37] <wxl> to be clear, my statement was in defense of kubuntu dropping it.
 I got that
[22:38] <wxl> just trying to be sure :)
[22:58] <valorie> http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2018/03/more-zsync-magic-for-lts-updates.html
[22:59] <valorie> and afk


[06:17] <sakhi> moonin
[06:30] <superfly> ahoy sakhi
[07:01] <Kilos> morning superfly  and other fellas
[07:02] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:02]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:06] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:06] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[07:18] <sakhi> Maaz: tea on
[07:18] <Maaz> sakhi: Sorry...
[07:18] <Kilos> lol hiya sakhi
[07:19] <sakhi> :) only coffee
[07:19] <Kilos> yip
[07:59] <Kilos> hi smorar
[08:22] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:31] <inetpro> good morning
[08:31] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[10:12] <superfly> tumbleweed: ping
[10:13] <tumbleweed> pong
[10:14] <superfly> are you a debian developer?
[10:14] <superfly> I recall something of the sort
[10:15] <tumbleweed> as of pretty recently, yes
[10:15] <superfly> congrats :-)
[10:15] <tumbleweed> thanks :)
[10:15] <superfly> also, I might be asking you for some help in the near future, just to forewarn you ;-)
[11:08] <Symmetria> heh
[11:08] <Symmetria> so after a hell of a lot of analysis
[11:09] <Symmetria> we figured out what was killing the mirror.ac.za server
[11:09] <Symmetria> (though we are still getting a new server in)
[11:09] <linuxboy> and, what was it?
[11:10] <Symmetria> the box was dying the moment we had a ton of rsyncs running to sync from external points, divided the syncs so that the we trigger the syncs to kick off every hour for a different mirror, so the sync processes are now divided over the day to 24 different times and where we have more than 24 individual syncs or something has to sync more than once we just put 2 or 3 rsyncs kicking off at the same time
[11:10] <Symmetria> and the box has been stable since then
[11:10] <Symmetria> we were picking up a lot of wierd kernel panic errors specifically to do with rsync
[11:10] <Symmetria> very strange
[11:11] <linuxboy> why would you update all your mirrors at the same tiem?
[11:12] <froztbyte> why not?
[11:13] <linuxboy> load
[11:13] <linuxboy> bandwidth
[11:13] <linuxboy> CPU
[11:13] <linuxboy> IO
[11:16] <froztbyte> and if you have enough of all those?
[11:25] <Symmetria> linuxbox originally it was about scheduling the updates to all happen after hours
[11:25] <Symmetria> legacy configs
[11:25] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: why run our mirrors with a scheduling engine that runs 3 syncs at a time
[11:25] <Symmetria> we switched it to update any time because we have the bandwidth now to do it whenever
[11:25] <tumbleweed> (given our bandwidth, 3 at a time makes sense, but with yours, 1/2 is probably more sane)
[11:26] <tumbleweed> that way they also lock, so if for some reason (i.e. network issues) one day's syncs run over, they won't be stomped upon
[11:26] <Symmetria> yeah we're looking at that as well, though I think a lot of these issues will be solved by the new system thats been ordered as well
[11:27] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: btw which ftpd do you use?
[11:27] <Symmetria> the new mirror.ac.za client facing system will allow us to move the current box into a backend sync system and segregate the two
[11:27] <Symmetria> tumble, pure-ftpd
[11:27] <tumbleweed> vsftpd makes our kernel use an insane amount of memory when it's under heavy load
[11:27] <Symmetria> tumbleweed heh, did you see the specs of the new client facing server we have ordered?
[11:27] <tumbleweed> yeah that makes sense (split) if you have shared storage
[11:27]  * tumbleweed can imagine, and doesn't want to :)
[11:28] <Symmetria> that new server is... mind blowing :)
[11:28] <tumbleweed> also, if you have some free rackspace and don't mind some bandwidth use, debian is looking for a security.debian.org in ZA (but it'd have to be a box admined by them)
[11:29] <Symmetria> heh its got 2 x 6 core 3.3ghz xeon cpus in it (so 12 cores total), 64gig of 1333mhz error correcting ram, high speed 600gig SAS disks in mirror config for the base operating system, 5 x PCI-E 16x slots for the Perc 5e external SAS system controllers to drive the disk arrays
[11:29] <tumbleweed> err not in ZA, but in africa in genereal...
[11:29] <Symmetria> we have the rack space, we'd require access to the box but they could admin it (we don't allow boxes on the backbone that we have zero access to for obvious reasons)
[11:29] <Symmetria> you can tell them to email me
[11:31] <Symmetria> heh right now I'm trying to free up space on diskspace3 by moving stuff to the new SAN, but *SNORE* the amount of data I'm moving is taking a long long time
[11:31] <tumbleweed> well, I can bounce you the request. I assume they'd be looking for hardware donations too (but those can come from elsewhere...)
[11:31] <Symmetria> moved debian onto the new disk array which freed up 500gig but 500gig will last days the way some of the other mirrors are growing
[11:31] <Symmetria> hardware is not a problem, I have several servers we could probably throw at it
[11:31] <Symmetria> dependant on how much disk space they are looking for
[11:32]  * Symmetria watches as a 7.5 terabyte single mirror copies from one san to the other
[11:32] <Symmetria> heh, its interesting, the mirrors which provide us the most grief are never the open source stuff
[11:32] <Symmetria> its the scientific data mirrors
[11:33] <Symmetria> (in this case the human genome project mirror, which is *INSANELY* huge)
[11:33] <Symmetria> heh and when they do an update release, you're looking at 300+gig churn (on an almost daily basis)
[11:34] <Symmetria> gbdb/mm9/multiz30way/phastCons30wayPlacental.wib
[11:34] <Symmetria><PHONE_NUMBER> 100%   60.45MB/s    0:00:30 (xfer#5134, to-check=206126/231289)
[11:34] <tumbleweed> the open source stuff has had a while to learn how to be mirrored effectively
[11:34] <Symmetria> heh look at the size of those files
[11:34] <Symmetria> and they are all that size, well, some of them are bigger
[11:34] <Symmetria> file sizes ranging between 2 and 6 gigs a file
[11:35] <Symmetria> 7.9T    /diskspace3/hg/
[11:35] <Symmetria> heh
[11:35] <Symmetria> gawd damn
[11:48] <tumbleweed> drubin: weechat keeps building sucessfully. I'm tempted to leave the team :)
[11:48] <Symmetria> tumbleweed btw
[11:48] <Symmetria> if you ever want huge storage space
[11:49] <Symmetria> for cheap (cheap by the standards of highly reliable storage)
[11:49] <Symmetria> the dell MD1000 arrays are things of beauty
[11:49] <Symmetria> heh, 28 terabyte active array on eSAS for like, 80 grand
[11:49] <Symmetria> and they are *FAST*
[11:54] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: LEG doesn't have that kind of cash :/ (we make do with software raid, and partial mirroring)
[11:55] <Symmetria> *nod* we spend the kinda money as do on mirror because its becoming more and more a critical service for academic data sets
[11:56] <Symmetria> it used to be a lot about saving bandwidth on the opensource stuff, and we will obviously continue to do that and treat it with the same priority as everything on the mirror
[11:56] <Symmetria> but the academic data sets are becoming more and more critical, and getting bigger and bigger
[11:56] <tumbleweed> it's actually a pity that there aren't decent raid solutions in the  10-20k range
[11:57] <Symmetria> tumbleweed just one piece of advice
[11:57] <tumbleweed> open source is running into the same issues. Debian is having to deal with academic datasets appearing in packages
[11:57] <Symmetria> no matter what anyone tells you, stay the hell away from anything iSCSI based
[11:58] <Symmetria> we've thrown test after test at it, as have a lot of other people I know
[11:58] <Symmetria> and the performance BLOWS
[11:58] <tumbleweed> hah
[11:58] <Symmetria> even with hardware offload iSCSI controllers (and I had some pretty damn expensive iSCSI hardware offloads)
[11:58] <tumbleweed> ever played with ATAoE? it looks interesting but not that much hardware for it
[11:58] <Symmetria> heh, we were testing with hardware offload cards that cost 10 grand a piece an the performance still blew
[11:59] <Symmetria> tumbleweed, heh, havent played with it, I generally stick to the philosophy that ethernet was not meant as a disk carrying technology :P
[11:59] <Symmetria> and people should stop trying to be cheap :P cause it doesnt work
[11:59] <tumbleweed> sounds reasonable :)
[11:59] <Symmetria> you wanna throw shit like that over a network, use fiber channel
[11:59] <Symmetria> it was what it was designed for
[12:00] <Symmetria> LOL, interestingly enough, while working on our DWDM units the other day, I discovered you can actually turn up 10G fiber channel lambdas
[12:00] <Symmetria> directly on the DWDM units
[12:00] <Symmetria> only a matter of time before I start offering that one to the clients
[15:02] <drubin> Maaz: weather for cape town
[15:02] <Maaz> drubin: In Cape Town, South Africa at 4:00 PM SAST on February 08, 2011: 24°C; Humidity: 61%; Wind: South at 41 km/h; Conditions: Partly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 6:13 AM SAST/7:45 PM SAST; Moonrise/set: 10:58 AM SAST/10:09 PM SAST
[16:11] <Morganvd> Kilos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:12] <Morganvd> HI
[16:16] <Symmetria> heh
[16:16] <Symmetria> wow, vendors can be real dodgy
[16:17] <Symmetria> we did some testing on a hardware device, produced a report, the vendor saw the report, phones me, and begs me not to show that report to any other south african isp
[16:17] <Kilos> hiya Morganvd sorry i am on p3 with no spound and trying to fix my 80g on p4
[16:17] <Morganvd> lol
[16:17] <Symmetria> Im like, errr, sorry, we're an open book, you dont like me disclosing what we find, dont ask me to test
[16:17] <Morganvd> did you sign a non disclosure?
[16:18] <Symmetria> Morganvd hell no, if a vendor asks me to evaluate his product, we're transparent
[16:18] <Symmetria> anything I find in testing I will disclose
[16:18] <Symmetria> and if they dont like that, I wont test their hardware and I wont buy their hardware
[16:18] <Morganvd> well then you in your fullest of rights
[16:19] <Morganvd> Symmetria: if you have a few min later
[16:19] <Morganvd> i would like to ask your advice about something
[16:24] <Symmetria> ask away
[16:24] <Symmetria> I got a second now
[16:24] <Symmetria> just trying to plan a lab test and see what results I EXPECT to get bfore I start
[17:07] <linuxboy> Symmetria: URL to test results plz
[17:11] <Symmetria> heh linuxboy not publishign them on the web, but am prepared to discuss what we found the device couldnt do when asked by an ISP or anyone else
[17:12] <Symmetria> *shrug* very basically, we wanted to terminate pseudowires on svi's (switched virtual interfaces), the device doesnt seem to be able to do that, and unless we screwed up in our lab tests and they have some other way to do it, that makes the device unusable in the network
[18:23] <Owkkuri> superfly: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/android-apps-coming-to-non-android-phones-maybe-even-ubuntu/
[19:49] <Symmetria> *HRM*


[07:14] <syq> who can help me to import a po for simple-scan?
[07:14] <syq> https://translations.launchpad.net/simple-scan/trunk/+imports
[07:17] <wgrant> syq: You'll need to talk to the project maintainer, https://launchpad.net/~simple-scan-team
[09:41] <mwhudson> silly recipe q time again
[09:41] <mwhudson> the package version gets e.g. ~ubuntu16.04.1 appended to it
[09:42] <mwhudson> where does the .1 in that come from?
[09:42] <cjwatson> haha
[09:42] <cjwatson> you're going to love this
[09:42] <cjwatson> buildrecipe:            '--append-version', '~ubuntu%s.1' % distroseries_version,
[09:43] <cjwatson> I assume it's just so that it's obvious that if you need to bump it manually for some reason then you can change it to .2, or something.
[09:44] <mwhudson> cjwatson: how very scientific
[09:44] <mwhudson> i was naively/stupidly hoping it would get incremented for each recipe build or something
[09:44] <mwhudson> even though that doesn't make a great deal of sense
[09:47] <cjwatson> I fear not.  You can always make your recipe build version include a timestamp or similar.
[10:10] <mwhudson> cjwatson: i'm probably being dense again but: eh? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/251972218/buildlog.txt.gz
[10:10] <mwhudson> recipe: https://code.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/+recipe/golang-1.4
[10:12] <cjwatson> Hm.
[10:13] <cjwatson> That is not obvious, but I'll have to fetch the repositories in order to debug it.
[10:13]  * cjwatson gets coffee and goes back to the ethernet connection
[10:13] <mwhudson> cjwatson: oh maybe it's because only part of the packaging branch is nested?
[10:13] <mwhudson> so there is no debian/changelog in that part of it
[10:13] <mwhudson> (only /changelog)
[10:13]  * mwhudson guesses wildly and goes to have a shower
[10:14] <cjwatson> Hm, possible.
[10:15] <cjwatson> Yeah, very possible.
[10:15] <cjwatson>     show_process = subprocess.Popen(
[10:15] <cjwatson>         ["git", "-C", child_branch._get_git_path(),
[10:15] <cjwatson>          "show", "%s:debian/changelog" % child_branch.get_revspec()],
[10:15] <cjwatson>         stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL)
[10:15] <cjwatson> Not sure how best to fix that.
[10:26] <mwhudson> cjwatson: and by this point the branch has been mutilated?
[10:27] <mwhudson> anyway i can just put the version in the recipe for now for my slightly strange use case
[10:27] <cjwatson> Not about mutilation, it's that the file never existed in that particular branch with that name.
[10:27] <cjwatson> I agree that putting the version in the recipe is the easiest workaround.
[11:29] <jaksi07c8> hi
[11:30] <jaksi07c8> is there a way to use gcc-5 when building something for trusty in a PPA?
[11:31] <jaksi07c8> I'm trying to build a KASan-enabled kernel for Trusty, but KASan requires gcc>=5, and trusty has gcc 4.8 by default
[11:32] <jaksi07c8> i've added ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test as a PPA dependency and gcc>=5 as a package dependency, the builder installs gcc-5, but still uses 4.8 to build the package
[11:35] <cjwatson> You'll need a new gcc-defaults somewhere as well.
[11:37] <rbasak> I get timeout errors trying to mass delete ~70 packages from a PPA. Is this ever expected to work? Is there a better way?
[11:38] <rbasak> eg. OOPS-7f2d9fc214a7d52b3b85ed006d09e230
[11:38] <ubot5`> https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-7f2d9fc214a7d52b3b85ed006d09e230
[12:07] <cjwatson> I suppose it's a bug, but you may just have to divide it into smaller chunks.  The OOPS isn't full of repeated queries or anything.
[12:08] <cjwatson> Oh, there's like 5 seconds of non-SQL time.
[12:10] <cjwatson> rbasak: Is this repeatable?
[12:10] <rbasak> cjwatson: yes
[12:10] <rbasak> I retried a few times.
[12:10] <rbasak> I can try in small chunks I suppose.
[12:11] <cjwatson> There's no obvious reason it should be spending several seconds contemplating its navel outside an SQL query there ...
[12:11] <rbasak> I can leave it for examination if you wish. No real hurry.
[12:11] <cjwatson> I mean there are quite a lot of BinaryPackagePublishingHistory ids but still.
[12:11] <rbasak> I was just cleaning up as requested :)
[12:12] <cjwatson> We probably won't have time to get to it very soon, and we have the OOPS, so go ahead.
[12:13] <rbasak> OK
[12:13] <cjwatson> I suppose it *might* just be spending a long time materialising four rows for the sake of a single ID.
[12:13] <cjwatson> 4 * len(bpph_ids) I mean
[12:14] <rbasak> Since they don't disappear straight away, it's a little awkward for me to do a chunk at a time. I'll do it over a day or two I guess.
[12:17] <cjwatson> We could probably simplify the query there, since we don't care about being able to order the BPPHs by bits of the other rows.
[12:18] <cjwatson> rbasak: Please file a bug and mention the OOPS ID above.
[12:18] <rbasak> OK will do
[12:22] <rbasak> bug 1566825
[12:22] <ubot5`> bug 1566825 in Launchpad itself "Timeout on deleting large number of packages from PPA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1566825
[19:23] <mitya57> Is something wrong with the buildds? https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-035/+builds?build_state=all
[19:23] <mitya57> The builds fail after 1-15 seconds on "unknown build machine" with no log
[19:25] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/builders says nothing out of ordinary
[19:26] <dobey> there's test rebuild happening though, so some things are backed up pretty heavily
[19:30] <Saviq> mitya57, yeah something went really wrong with LP builders
[19:30] <Saviq> wgrant, are you guys aware ↑?
[20:01] <kamal> hi #launchpad.   my upload to the kernel team PPA is insta-failing for all arches, with no build log at all, and no email from Launchpad:
[20:01] <kamal> https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9545473
[20:01] <kamal> is the build farm unhappy, or did I do something silly?
[20:03] <dobey> something is unhappy
[20:03] <dobey> apparently
[20:42] <barry> ppas are borked?
[20:43] <mitya57> yes
[20:44] <barry> mitya57: do we know details yet?
[20:45] <mitya57> barry, nope. I can only say that you are not alone.
[20:46] <barry> mitya57: ack
[20:46]  * mitya57 wonders if this affects the archive too
[20:47] <dobey> it affects builders
[22:57] <cjwatson> mitya57,dobey,kamal,barry: LP deployment rolled back, all affected builds retried
[23:15] <barry> cjwatson: thanks!
[23:20] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1567132 <- analysis
[23:20] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1567132 in Launchpad itself "r17979 causes package build dispatch failures in devirtualised PPAs" [Critical,Triaged]


[13:46] <Asad2005> i am getting WARNING **: Liferea seems to be running already under unity but i dont see it visible i tried alt-tab not in the list
[20:22] <Froq> so i downloaded a stupid dock program to make my ubuntu look "nifty" but now I want to scratch it, however, I don't know the name of it. What can I do?
[20:24] <zenrox> was it a deb or didja compile it your self
[20:24] <Froq> deb
[20:25] <zenrox> ok open synaptic and check local installed till you see it
[20:26] <zenrox> it would be under status on the lower lefthand side


[14:35] <tester> hi all, is there anyone alive that speaks English?
[14:36] <tester> *native English speaker?..
[14:36] <tester> oh wait... I should go offtopic


[06:41] <pipo_> Hello
[11:04] <pipo_> For a scope, is it posible to open a url from the query-view, without opening the preview-view first?
[11:13] <davidcalle> pipo_: the app scope does this, but I think it's specialed case.
[11:13] <davidcalle> pipo_: afaik, there is no way of doing it. What's the use case?
[11:16] <pipo_> davidcalle: I am experimenting with a news-scope. By opening the article directly, there is 1 click saved.
[11:18] <pipo_> davidcalle: I just found an expample in the libertine-scope. I gues i'm going to figure that out.
[11:22] <davidcalle> pipo_: oh cool :)
[12:25] <bzoltan> popey: i have pushed a new UITK component gallery app to the store -> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/1095/rev/11/ Would you be so kind to review it when you have a spare minute?
[12:26] <popey> sure
[12:26] <popey> bzoltan: no need to review, you just need to scroll down and hit "publish"
[12:33] <bzoltan> popey:  ohh :) that is handy. Thanks
[12:38] <popey> np
[15:24] <timp> ahayzen: hello
[15:24] <ahayzen> timp, o/
[15:24] <timp> ahayzen: are you a contributor to the music-app?
[15:24] <ahayzen> timp, yup :-)
[15:24] <timp> cool
[15:25] <timp> we saw that for a while now there are some failing autopilot tests
[15:25] <ahayzen> timp, yeah, it is on my list :-)
[15:25] <timp> it looks like the autopilot tests are using the proxy object for the old UITK header, but you have the new header in the code
[15:25] <timp> ahayzen: ah, cool.
[15:25] <ahayzen> yup when we moved from Tabs -> using leading actions they broke
[15:26] <ahayzen> but was missed as we aren't running AP tests on jenkins at the moment :-/
[15:26] <ahayzen> i'll try and get around to fixing it, timp thanks for reminding me :-)
[15:26] <timp> bzoltan: do you have a list of failing tests?
[15:26] <timp> ahayzen: perhaps we can disable/remove the failing tests for now until the new ones are there?
[15:26] <ahayzen> timp, it'll probably be like most of them...
[15:27] <timp> that will save us time when checking the music-app tests
[15:27] <ahayzen> timp, i'll try and get onto it today if i can :-)
[15:27] <timp> ahayzen: great, thanks :)
[15:27] <timp> ahayzen: can you let me and bzoltan know when you decide what to do with the tests (disable them for now, or update them)
[15:28] <timp> ahayzen: also feel free to ping us if you need help with that :)
[15:28] <ahayzen> timp, ok will do :-) do you know if there is a bug tracking it?
[15:28] <ahayzen> IIRC there isn't...
[15:28] <timp> ahayzen: these are failing now http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23058728/
[15:28] <timp> ahayzen: I don't know of a bug.
[15:28] <ahayzen> cool thanks :-)
[15:28] <timp> bzoltan: ^ ?
[15:29] <bzoltan> ahayzen: timp: we can create a bug :) that all music app tests fail :)
[15:29] <ahayzen> :-D
[15:29] <timp> ahayzen: I was tracking down what makes them fail. Basically you use main_view.switch_to_tab which is for the old header.
[15:29] <ahayzen> timp, yup
[15:30] <ahayzen> i have a note saying to use ... https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/autopilot/python/1.5.0/ubuntuuitoolkit/#ubuntuuitoolkit.AppHeader.click_action_button
[15:30] <timp> ahayzen: now that you use the new header, you can access the leadingActionBar of the PageHeader and use the click_action_button() of the ActionBar proxy object.
[15:30] <ahayzen> i should be able todo click_action_button(action_objectName)
[15:30] <timp> ahayzen: yes, correct :)
[15:30] <ahayzen> :-)
[15:31] <timp> ahayzen: hmm, I wonder if that doc is correct
[15:31] <timp> you don't need to use AppHeader
[15:31] <ahayzen> heh yeah looks sortof out of date
[15:31] <ahayzen> my notes say to use the leadingActionBar then click_action_button as you said
[15:31] <bzoltan> ahayzen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1613328
[15:31] <ahayzen> bzoltan, thanks!
[15:32] <bzoltan> ahayzen:  please ping me or timp in case you need any assistance or help.
[15:33] <ahayzen> bzoltan, will do, thanks :-)
[18:15] <kivi>  popey, mhall119 -- Hey I just thought of a potentially great idea, that you guys can take to SABDFL and take credit.
[18:15] <kivi> I just came to a new place with an archaic wifi name and password.
[18:17] <kivi> After painstakingly putting it in for my laptop, I was thinking that it would be damn nice if this could sync up with my phone.
[18:18] <kivi> so my phone could just access the wifi networks I had already accessed with my laptop.
[19:42] <mhall119> kivi: 'phablet-network' will do that, if (A) you have your phone plugged in to USB and (B) have developer mode enabled on it
[19:43] <kivi> cool
[19:43] <kivi> I'm late to the party then ∧_∧
[22:47] <ahayzen> bzoltan, timp, FYI, got autopilot passing in this MP https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/fix-1613328-autopilot-tests/+merge/302955 \o/


[06:02] <flaccid> any goss erichammond ?
[06:57] <erichammond> flaccid: huh?
[07:08] <flaccid> ah just sayin hi..
[07:10] <erichammond> flaccid: I see.  What language?
[07:10] <erichammond> flaccid: Did I owe you an email response?  Sometimes I lose track but I can go find it if you expected something.
[07:12] <flaccid> lang = short slang, slightly aussie
[07:13] <flaccid> negative on the email at this stage. but the good news is that i'll have time to start working on the RightImages
[07:14] <flaccid> +soon


[13:41] <march> hi
[18:24] <KDB9000> has anyone worked with a laptop that had a figure print reader and ubuntu? I am looking at a new laptop and would like the figure print reader but if I can't get it to work then it is point less.