[20:48] <planttt> meoblast001, then don't complain. I cannot have the cake and eat it, too.
[20:48] <linxeh> Djokera: http://www.ircd-ratbox.org/contact.ashtml
[20:48] <Djokera> i`m always saying something twice when i need help and especially at massive channels because it happens often nobody to see my question.
[20:49] <planttt> meoblast001, apple is closed. get used to it.
[20:49] <tsunamie> cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max gives me 100000. so I know there are enought file handelers on the system. why won't user limites increase?
[20:49] <Djokera> thank you and mind your attitude when trying to help - it does not make a good impression ...
[20:50] <Djokera> if they were not any requirements about ircd client when linking a server to a national network - I would never use linux ... it sux - the most unfriendly operating system in the world ... when it comes to ANYTHING ... they shall forbid it ... jeesh
[20:50] <planttt> Djokera, i don't think many really care. You need help, not them.
[20:50] <xangua> !attitude | Djokera
[20:51] <planttt> Djokera, talking about attitude
[20:51] <DirecTOR> Hello
[20:51] <Djokera> well he started 1st
[20:51] <tsunamie> hello
[20:51] <planttt> Djokera, you could be grown up about it.
[20:51] <DirecTOR> any rules here? about asking question
[20:51] <guntbert> Djokera: please drop that discussion
[20:51] <shebang_wafflesa> LOL, "they" should forbid it
[20:51] <guntbert> !ask | DirecTOR
[20:51] <planttt> DirecTOR, just ask.
[20:51] <tsunamie> ask away is generally the procedure
[20:51] <marco78> thats what i dont understand is why in this page (against all the others) is missing the "sources" directory ?
[20:51] <Djokera> why am i even talking to freaks ... what a pathetic excuse for an OS Linux is ... Linux developers should kill themselves ...
[20:52] <DirecTOR> !ask boxee
[20:52] <xangua> !ops | Djokera
[20:52] <marco78> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/release/
[20:52] <_hans> hey people, let's not feed the trolls
[20:52] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: People will be more than happy to help, just don;t be inflammatory
[20:52] <laler> its friday again
[20:52] <laler> trolls are out
[20:52] <tsunamie> so does anyone know why theFile Descriptors limits for users stays at 1024
[20:53] <Djokera> that ain`t true - i`ve been seeking help like for ages - and they all tried to tell me how good they are but they can`t help me
[20:53] <Djokera> what a shame ...
[20:53] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: Well what's your problem?
[20:53] <meoblast001> planttt: well, i don't think i'll be using it from this point forward ;)
[20:53] <goltoof> anyone else have trouble torifying freenode?  I tried the instructions here w/ irssi  http://pthree.org/2006/08/11/anonymity-and-freenode/
[20:53] <meoblast001> i messed it up pretty bad
[20:53] <goltoof> !anyone
[20:53] <OerHeks> Djokera, check the WineHQ database for iTunes, > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17774
[20:53] <goltoof> i get banned
[20:54] <grobda24> Does Maverick use Nautilus as the file manager ?
[20:54] <Djokera> iTunes? I never asked about iTunes
[20:54] <xangua> yes grobda24
[20:54] <goltoof> grobda24:  yup
[20:54] <alteregoa> if you like ubuntu, get an apple
[20:54] <planttt> grobda24, yes
[20:54] <Djokera> i got almost all mac products ...
[20:54] <DirecTOR> anyone using AC3/DTS in ubuntu?
[20:54] <guntbert> goltoof: freenode help in #freenode please
[20:54] <area51pilot> u got
[20:54] <laler> It's a good suggestion Djokera
[20:54] <grobda24> thanks
[20:54] <area51pilot> :P
[20:54] <Djokera> nobody even follows lol ...
[20:54] <laler> Itunes is great
[20:54] <planttt> Djokera, why are you here then?
[20:54] <goltoof> guntbert: roger roger
[20:54] <Darkonz> Free Megaupload, Rapidshare, Brazzers and other account here: http://tinyurl.com/freeaccountz  Enjoy guys
[20:54] <area51pilot> Djokera #Mac Heaven
[20:55] <tsunamie> I asked it - it was simply how to increase the fd's for users. as the guide I used does not seem to work. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-increase-the-maximum-number-of-open-files/
[20:55] <area51pilot> :P
[20:55] <_hans> tsunamie: here is another guide, i'm not sure if it works though, i haven't tried it: http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~brecht/servers/openfiles.html
[20:56] <planttt> Djokera, no private please.
[20:56] <tsunamie> ty hans
[20:56] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokerra: Are you going to ask your question or not?
[20:56] <planttt> Djokera, if i understand correctly, you want to run an IRC daemon, which is only supported on Linux?
[20:57] <Djokera> yes
[20:57] <planttt> Djokera, do you have any experience in administering an IRC server?
[20:57] <Djokera> well i typed on private because i don`t want to bother the users with my stuff
[20:58] <Djokera> planttt, yes i do
[20:58] <planttt> Djokera, maybe these others could help as well
[20:58] <number_number> I want to be able to run a couple of packages without being asked for a root password... I know I can configure this from /etc/sudoers .. but I've already tried once and had to recover with the live cd! .. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[20:58] <Djokera> i seriously doubt
[20:58] <Djokera> about it
[20:58] <ArkAnGiCIA> unrealircd
[20:58] <planttt> Djokera, do you have any experience with Linux  ?
[20:58] <alkisg> number_number: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[20:58] <Djokera> poor
[20:58] <ArkAnGiCIA> it's a easy server
[20:59] <planttt> Djokera, which distro do you (need to) use?
[20:59] <ArkAnGiCIA> an
[20:59] <ArkAnGiCIA> pff
[20:59] <Djokera> ubuntu 9.04 - official distro sent to me by ubuntu blah blah blah
[20:59] <Djokera> ...
[20:59] <blakkheim> 9.04 is not supported anymore~
[20:59] <planttt> Djokera, and the IRC server you have to use?
[20:59] <xangua> Djokera: jaunty is no longer supported
[21:00] <Djokera> planttt, ircd-ratbox 3.0.6
[21:00] <erUSUL> number_number: to edit sudoer use allways visudo
[21:00] <planttt> Djokera, first off, that's a testing release, so I wouldn't use it
[21:01] <planttt> Djokera, *especially* not in a realworld setup
[21:01] <tsunamie> sorry hands
[21:01] <tsunamie> thats still not doing it foe me
[21:01] <tsunamie> it's preaty much the same guide thow
[21:01] <tsunamie> thanks anyway
[21:01] <mariella> hello
[21:01] <tsunamie> *~Hans
[21:01] <Djokera> ok how about a stable one? but it has to be irc-ratbox
[21:02] <planttt> Djokera, why does it have to be ratbox?
[21:02] <number_number> erUSUL: I did think of this shortly after the '>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 16 <<  ... and then I realised that ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default! :D
[21:02] <planttt> Djokera, 2.2.6 is in the repos
[21:03] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: it looks liek there's a package for ircd-ratbox in ubuntu
[21:03] <Djokera> didnt find help on their website ... not even a single hint ...
[21:03] <planttt> Djokera, read up a little on ubuntu and how to install software. ircd-ratbox is in the standard repository of software, which make it easy to install and administe
[21:04] <rawDawg> im trying to install ubuntu server 10.10 32bit on a very old server (IBM xseries 340) i keep getting error: on error returned while trying to install the kernel: linux-generic-pae
[21:04] <planttt> Djokera, true. the ratbox site doesn't show much, but Ubuntu took the program as part of their distribution
[21:04] <Djokera> yeah sure ... of course and why i don`t have to do it when using a normal OS?
[21:04] <blakkheim> "normal OS"
[21:04] <shebang_wafflesa> He obviously just watns to install it. Djokera, open Terminal and type sudo apt-get install ircd-ratbox or whatever the package is called
[21:05] <planttt> Djokera, it doesn't help if you talk like that. Linux just has a different approach on things.
[21:05] <planttt> ubuntu 10.10 has ratbox 3.0.6 in the repository
[21:05] <Djokera> different approach? i didn`t see an approach so far ... all i see is confusion
[21:05] <Djokera> thank you shebang_wafflesa  :)
[21:05] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: i don't think he really cares to learn, he just wants his app to work
[21:05] <mariella> I've been running lucid 64 bit for a while and all went well till this summer: withan update my wireless card marvell 88w8335 that had been working fine with ndiswrapper stopped working and I can't see it anymore with iwconfig or ifconfig. It still works with Puppy linux or winxp 64
[21:05] <tsunamie> Hi Everyone, does anyone know how I can increase the size of the FD (file descripters) for user httpd.
[21:05] <tsunamie> I have done the following.
[21:05] <tsunamie> 1>vi /etc/sysctl.conf and apend fs.file-max = 100000 and reloaded using sysctl -p
[21:05] <shebang_wafflesa> djokera: no problem
[21:05] <tsunamie> I now get 100000 when I use cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[21:05] <FloodBot4> tsunamie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <tsunamie> However when I check using ulimit -a
[21:05] <tsunamie> I get the following.
[21:05] <mariella> could someone help me?
[21:06] <planttt> Djokera, at least try to learn.
[21:06] <xangua> !enter > tsunamie
[21:06] <planttt> Djokera, once you get the hang of it, you'll be asking why others don't do it as well.
[21:07] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: sometimes people need things to Just Work. There's nothing wrong with that
[21:07] <tsunamie> :(
[21:07] <blakkheim> until it breaks, then they will probably wish they had learned to use it
[21:08] <shebang_wafflesa> blakkheim: and that's the beauty of it, because then they'll have to learn
[21:08] <tsunamie> got disconnected
[21:08] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, in Linux, stuff does 'just work'. But not in the way you were taught in highschool.
[21:08] <dajhorn> tsunamie: ulimits are often per session.   They may change if you logout and login.
[21:08] <tehnef> planttt, it "just works" once you edit that text file ;)
[21:08] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, in fact, since i moved to Linux in 1999, stuff just works
[21:08] <dark3lf> Hello, is it very dangerous to surf the web in root ?
[21:08] <planttt> tehnef, FUD from the Slackware days.
[21:08] <goltoof> is there a cli file tree view like pstree?
[21:08] <tsunamie> In know, but I set it up on the conf file so it would occur every session
[21:08] <charley> ubuntu 10.10 my volume control disappeared, what's the process to get it back :D
[21:08] <xangua> !ot | planttt shebang_wafflesa
[21:09] <xangua> charley: just add the indicator applet to the panel
[21:09] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, what was the terminal command once again, I was updating and Ubuntu Restrted my PC ...
[21:09] <charley> thanks xangua
[21:09] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:    linux always assumes you know what you're doing
[21:09] <xangua> dark3lf: sure it is
[21:09] <tehnef> planttt: hey man, i loved my slackware
[21:09] <tehnef> planttt: and it really is still like that in a lot of cases.
[21:09] <sartan> this isn't fight club!
[21:09] <planttt> tehnef, me too. still have one running
[21:09] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Reboot if you're changing sysctls.
[21:09] <blakkheim> Djokera: man aptitude
[21:09] <tsunamie> already did that
[21:09] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: sudo apt-get install (package name here)
[21:09] <dark3lf> xangua: why ? what can happen ?
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> where can I see if something wrong happens during the boot>
[21:10] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, thank you onace again
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> ?
[21:10] <tsunamie> rebooted twice and the cat shows me that the max files are right
[21:10] <charley> xangua: hehe, I removed that and I didn't figure what I did ;D, thankyou
[21:10] <fabiobik> hi
[21:10] <rawDawg> i keep getting this error when trying to install ubuntu server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/530885/ please help!
[21:10] <goltoof> anyone know what i'm asking?  i want to view directories of files graphically like pstree.
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> right now my system hangs during startup... and I need to type Ctrl+D on the command line for it to continue
[21:10] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: and then type the admin password. It won't echo (show up on the screen) btw
[21:10] <tsunamie> ulimit -a open files                      (-n) 1024
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> Please your help
[21:10] <fabiobik> does ANYONE here have CS 1.6 non steam DEDICATED SERVER runing at UBUNTU SERVER 10.10?
[21:11] <tehnef> rawDawg: what does syslog say?
[21:11] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Check the /etc/login.defs file.   Your interactive user account profile is likely different than the apache daemon profile.
[21:11] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, can i bother you a bit on private?
[21:11] <charley> also, I'm wondering whether msn is working on empathy
[21:11] <charley> it doesn't seem to want to connect for me :)
[21:11] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: sure
[21:11] <fabiobik> does ANYONE here have CS 1.6 non steam DEDICATED SERVER runing at UBUNTU SERVER 10.10?
[21:11] <rawDawg> tehnef: i dont know how to check syslog
[21:12] <number_number> would this seem sensible to you chaps? is there a way of testing and debugging edits to the /etc/sudoers? "number number_home_server= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/vpnc,/usr/sbin/vpnc-disconnect"
[21:12] <blakkheim> !repeat | fabiobik
[21:12] <tsunamie> dajhorn - how do I reply to your messages in IRC?
[21:12] <tsunamie> like how you have messaged me
[21:12] <dajhorn> tsunamie: You are already doing it.
[21:12] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I see, I am not sure what to check in login.def
[21:12] <goltoof> !anyone
[21:12] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Most IRC clients go bing when they see your login name.
[21:13] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I see
[21:13] <Mocciani> hi there. I have just removed Windows 7 and installed UBUNTU desktop. Using a Belkin USB to connect wirelessly to my Belkin router. On the wireless icon (top right) it says connected but on Firefox it says cannot find Server no matter what site I try. Anyone?
[21:13] <dajhorn> dajhorn: The ulimit in your login session is probably different than the ulimit in the apache session.  Now that the sysctl.conf file is changed, check whether the apache process has a higher limit.
[21:13] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I I am not sure why I am looking in the login.def file, is there something I should be looking for
[21:14] <tsunamie> dajhorn - how do I check this?
[21:14] <apache7> ...
[21:14] <tehnef> rawDawg: sudo less -n 100 /var/log/syslog
[21:14] <dajhorn> tsunamie: The login.defs file also sets restrictions on user sessions that can affect the results of ulimit.
[21:14] <tehnef> rawDawg: then figure out what parts of that are relevant to what you're trying to do
[21:14] <blemish> Mocciani: make sure Firefox is not in off-line mode (File menu)
[21:14] <_hans> Mocciani: are you sure your router is connected to the internet?
[21:14] <tsunamie> dajhorn - as su ing to the user that starts apache does not seem to show the users FD's increased
[21:15] <Mocciani> _hans: Yes because I am now chatting to you using the macbook pro (using airport to access wirelessly to the router)
[21:15] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Let's backup momentarily.  Why is the default FD limit too low?  What gave you an error message?
[21:15] <rawDawg> ty tehnef
[21:15] <Mocciani> When I ping the router from the machine where UBUNTU is installed, nothing is received.
[21:15] <MaverikUser> Hello
[21:15] <planttt> Hi!
[21:15] <madsj> is emacs 23 the default version in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:15] <tehnef> Mocciani: do you have an IP on the ubuntu machine?
[21:16] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I am hitting my test webserver with a load of stuff and it's creating lots of temporary files. now wil ftping on it says that there are not enought file handlers
[21:16] <Mocciani> tehnef: Yes. I have assigned static ip and turned of DHCP
[21:16] <MaverikUser> I can not connect to MSN on Ubuntu, I've tryed using Amsn and Emesene but it does not work. On Windows I can connect to MSN normally
[21:16] <MaverikUser> what's the problem ?
[21:17] <dajhorn> tsunamie:  What is "wil ftping"?
[21:17] <tehnef> Mocciani: does it work with dhcp?
[21:17] <planttt> MaverikUser, pidgin works for me.
[21:17] <MaverikUser> I'll try pidgin ok
[21:17] <xangua> MaverikUser: latest stable version of emesene (1.6) and pidgin (2.7.5) work fine
[21:17] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I have increased the number the system has, however I noted that the user (httpd shell) still has 1024 when I look at cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[21:18] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: are you still there? My client set you to ignore
[21:18] <tsunamie> dajhorn - sorry thats suppose to say FTP'ing
[21:18] <Mocciani> tehnef: I haven't tried. I have disabled DHCP on the router, assigned static ip to the server and on the server the DHCP is disabled and I've assigned ip address for all pc and laptops in the flat.
[21:18] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, yes i am
[21:18] <Djokera> and i`m waiting ...
[21:18] <Djokera> :)
[21:18] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Are you in a virtual environment?   1024 is way too low for /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[21:18] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: i'm still figuring out how to use my IRC client
[21:19] <tehnef> Mocciani: sounds like you have a basic configuration issue. are you sure you assigned the correct IP and gateway?
[21:19] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I am using vmware esxi under ubuntu. however thats not the problem.if I cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max I get 1000000
[21:19] <Djokera> ok so basically i think i got ircd-ratbox installed already but it aint nowhere at the Applications List ...
[21:19] <Mocciani> tehnef: the gateway, I've assigned the router's IP and I have assigned the ip for this machine that I assigned from the server
[21:19] <Djokera> what do i do now?
[21:19] <tehnef> rawDawg: see any info there that will help you figure it out?
[21:20] <tsunamie> dajhorn - when I type in ulimit -Hn I get 1024
[21:20] <Djokera> ircd-ratbox is already the newest version.
[21:20] <Djokera>  - that`s what i get ...
[21:20] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: you should be able to launch it from the terminal
[21:20] <tsimpson> Djokera: is's not a GUI, it's command-line only
[21:20] <tehnef> Mocciani: what is "the server" and what do you mean by "the ip for this machine that i assigned from the server"?
[21:20] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa,  and how do i do that?
[21:20] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: try typing the name of the command in the Terminal
[21:20] <planttt> Djokera, go read a linux-for-beginners-howto
[21:21] <Mocciani> tehnef: I have a mac mini server (running OS X) and that is connected to the router via ethernet
[21:21] <osmosis> how can I stop kvm and kvm_intel modules from loading at bootup?
[21:21] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Your system is busted if file-max is inconsistent or randomly changing.
[21:21] <Djokera> the name of which command?
[21:21] <MaverikUser> xangua: I have this error with emesene: Error during login, please retry (Connection problem: [Err,o 110] Connecton timed out)
[21:21] <tsunamie> :(
[21:21] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Check your sysctl.conf for typos.  1024 is way too low.  Is should be in the tens of thousands.
[21:21] <tehnef> osmosis: google blacklisting modules in modprobe.d
[21:21] <planttt> Djokera, rm -rf /
[21:21] <Mocciani> tehnef: as I'm trying to configure the server as a web server, I was told by apple tech team to disable dhcp and set static ip
[21:22] <Djokera> planttt, if i wanted to read i was gonna get a book wouldn't I ?
[21:22] <tsimpson> Djokera: don't run that
[21:22] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokerra: don't run what plant told you to run
[21:22] <tsunamie> dajhorn -  one sec
[21:22] <planttt> Sorry about that.
[21:22] <tsimpson> planttt: do not tell people to do that
[21:22] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokerra: try typing the name of the chat client that you installed
[21:22] <Djokera> yes i wont - i might not be familiar with linux but im not an idiot
[21:22] <Djokera> ...
[21:22] <ubuntu_> DJo
[21:22] <tehnef> Mocciani: that's a good practice, yes, but you don't have to disable dhcp on your router
[21:22] <tehnef> Mocciani: you can just manually specify on the server
[21:22] <gpled> anyone having trouble with the eject command?
[21:22] <planttt> tsimpson, yes. I typed a little too fast. Sorry again.
[21:23] <Djokera> planttt, if i wanted to read i was gonna get a book wouldn't I ?
[21:23] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: i'm sure that's what that was
[21:23] <Djokera> OK then guys, how do i run the installed ircd-ratbox
[21:23] <Mocciani> tehnef: oh so you're saying that I should enable DHCP on the router and keep the manual settings the same on the server - is that right?
[21:23] <ubuntu_> plantt ppl like U give linux a bad name go use windows
[21:23] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: try typing ircd:ratbox in the Terminal
[21:23] <tehnef> Mocciani: it would make things easier for the rest of your network, yes.
[21:23] <planttt> Djokera, yes. Maybe you should.
[21:23] <tsunamie> dajhorn -  when typing "sysctl fs.file-max" I get  "fs.file-max = 100000"
[21:24] <tsunamie> dajhorn - this seems right to me
[21:24] <planttt> ubuntu_ I disagree.
[21:24] <blakkheim> Djokera: there are lots of good "ubuntu beginner" books online, maybe try one of them
[21:24] <xangua> Djokera: normally one comes here when he already have readed and searched for information, manuals, etc; not to be guide step by step like a baby or something
[21:24] <Mocciani> tehnef: ok I'll try that now. if I'm disconnected, I'll be back after undoing it
[21:24] <tehnef> planttt: uncool.
[21:24] <xangua> !manual | Djokera
[21:24] <ubuntu_> then stop telling noobs to  rm rf /
[21:24] <tsunamie> dajhorn - but when I type "ulimit -Hn" I get "1024"
[21:24] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: take your trollish fanboyism somehwere else
[21:25] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Check your virtual machine for memory pressure.  You can get errors that seem to be handle shortages when the real problem is lack of regular memory.
[21:25] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: any luck?
[21:25] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Paravirt kernels can also be clamped by the host.  If this is a clean installation, then double-check the VMware configuration.
[21:25] <sosaited> I have Ubuntu 10.10 on Dell 1564. and I have 2 ext4 partitions (One of which is empty, other has Ubuntu) and two other NTFS partitions. After the initial install, I could see and mount all the drives normally in Places and Nautilus, but ext4 one would only mount read-only.
[21:26] <planttt> tehnef, I said sorry about the rm command. And I mean that. I was too fast. I do disagree that "people like me" give Linux a bad name. I tried to help the guy. I google his site, I checked synaptic. He needs to be taken by the hand. I think he should read a starter's guide and not ask inane questions here.
[21:26] <Mocciani> tehnef: by the way, if I enable DHCP on the router, does that mean that the server wont have a static internal IP?
[21:26] <embrik> four to five years ago I was a newbie - and I got a lot of help from this community - I thought then that in some years I may be able to help others on this channel - I haven't been very good at helping people here - but I do everything I can in my work (teacher) to help my colleauges and pupils - I think that your attitude and the free software communities' attitude has guided me and showed me the importance of helping each other in order to
[21:26] <embrik>  develop and go further. Thank you all persons on this channel using your free time to help others
[21:26] <sosaited> Now after a restart, I cant see them anywhere to mount
[21:26] <tsunamie> dajhorn - when you say check the vmware config. do you mean just check how much memory is avaiable?
[21:26] <tsunamie> because vsphear says 4gb
[21:26] <xTheGoat121x> I cannot delete the last panel, despite all the walkthroughs I've tried.
[21:26] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Dunno.  Check for anything that is non-default.
[21:26] <swim> i cannot get my windows to have space with compiz
[21:27] <shebang_wafflesa> plantt: i agree that he needs to learn some basics if he's going to run an IRC server on linux, but you should point hiuum to useful resources rather than being a troll. If he refuses to listen, don't help him
[21:27] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Well written software will ask Apache or the framework to do tmp handling.  If temporary files are choking the system, then you may also just have crappy software.
[21:27] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, I did. I tried to help him.
[21:27] <Djokera> guys get over it - linux just sux ... i`m spending more time in searching for "how to do this and that" instead of doing it ... they should think about that. it`s pure waste of time and i won`t waste my time no more. Linux developers should think about that ...
[21:27] <shebang_wafflesa> Let's just try to forget about it
[21:28] <blakkheim> ahaha
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I see
[21:28] <tehnef> Mocciani: no, if you specify the IP on the server, that's that
[21:28] <mariella> hello there
[21:28] <mariella> I'm not an expert of linux and I already tried with several Howto and searching forums to resolve the problem.
[21:28] <mariella> I've been running lucid 64 bit with grat satisfaction for a while and all went well till this summer: with an update my wireless card marvell 88w8335, that had been working fine with ndiswrapper, stopped working and I can't see it anymore with iwconfig or ifconfig. It still works with Puppy linux or winxp 64---I'm not an expert of linux and I already tried with several Howto and searching forums to resolve the problem.
[21:28] <mariella>  Could someone help me?
[21:28] <FloodBot4> mariella: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I will check
[21:28] <Mocciani> tehnef: great. thanks.
[21:28] <embrik> Djokera: did you read what I just wrote?
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - thanks for all your help
[21:28] <dajhorn> tsunamie: To reiterate, login.defs is the place where you set ulimits globally (in most cases).
[21:28] <engemec> mariella: what's your problem?
[21:28] <tehnef> lol
[21:28] <swim> i can't get windows space on my 3d sphere with compiz
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - how do I set it in there to ulimit file handlers on all users?
[21:28] <mariella> sorry
[21:29] <tehnef> "Linux developers should think about that"
[21:29] <engemec> mariella: i'm reading.
[21:29] <dajhorn> tsunamie: I don't remember.  You'll need to read the man page and/or file comments.
[21:29] <hiexpo> !compiz
[21:29] <maria__> 101047
[21:29] <tehnef> some distros can be decent desktop environments...but in the end that's just not what "Linux" is targeted for
[21:30] <mariella> my wl network card marvell libertas ceased to work after update
[21:30] <gpled> did cdrom0 get lost in the upgrade to 10.10?
[21:30] <embrik> mariella, try to find out what drivers it uses, remove it completely in .f.ex synaptic, then install it again
[21:30] <shebang_wafflesa> Does anyone know if read/writeable ntfs is available on a clean ubuntu install?
[21:30] <tsunamie> dajhorn - okay thanks
[21:30] <tehnef> gpled: I always use sr0, fyi
[21:30] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Welcome.
[21:30] <planttt> tehnef I beg to differ. Ubuntu is targeted for desktop use.
[21:31] <engemec> mariella: I have a sugest to you. You can select the older kernel. Probably, the kernel had a update and the new kernel mybe don't support your wi-fi card.
[21:31] <ajeet_> hi
[21:31] <mariella> embrik:its a win driver + ndiswrapper
[21:31] <embrik> mariella, I had the same problem with my broadcom one hour ago - I'll try to find out what I did, wait
[21:32] <joe85> Anyone know why I am getting this error when I try to use the proprietary ATI driver? /var/log/Xorg.1.log:(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[21:32] <joe85> /var/log/Xorg.1.log:(EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
[21:32] <tehnef> planttt: Yes, but the development of the foundation is not targeted for it. Ubuntu is pretty great and I use it a lot, but it's not for Joe User unless his IT guy sets it up for him and gives it to him after everything is up and running.
[21:32] <mariella> engemec: i tried to restore the old kernel ... couldnt make it work coorectly
[21:32] <root> hi
[21:32] <root> for all
[21:32] <root> plase haw spak french her
[21:33] <bazhang> Guest94515, #ubuntu-fr
[21:33] <planttt> tehnef, I beg to differ again. Maybe not on the foundation (while the future is promising), but Joe User can easily use Ubuntu. Setting up any OS is not easy.
[21:33] <jock> sounds more like 'Allo Allo
[21:33] <engemec> mariella: i had the same problem yesterday. Well, i restarted some times and every 5 restarts..... i discovered that the problem was nw-applet.
[21:33] <Guest94515> bon soiré pour tou
[21:33] <shebang_wafflesa> plantt: what distro do you run?
[21:33] <Guest94515> merci admin
[21:33] <planttt> tehnef, my wife installed a wine-based program without my knowing and it just worked
[21:34] <Guest94515> hi
[21:34] <embrik> mariella, Ok, I'm not an expert, just did what some on this channel suggested me to do. I found the drivers in synaptic - removed it completely, and opened restricted drivers in System, administration, and activated the proprietary driver for my wireless
[21:34] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, Ubuntu 10.10 on desktops, CentOS on servers, Meamo on phone
[21:34] <tehnef> planttt: I get where you're coming from, I really do. For a lot of people, the setup is really easy and great. But for a significant amount of people, it is not.
[21:34] <planttt> tehnef, which OS *is* easy to set up?
[21:34] <bazhang> tehnef, planttt please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <embrik> planttt, Linux is much easier than windows - I deal with windows computers at work - downloading drivers, rebooting, ipgrading service packs - it takes 24 hours
[21:35] <tehnef> good point bazhang
[21:35] <tehnef> sorry to derail.
[21:36] <xTheGoat121x> I'm trying to delete all my panels, but it won't let me delete the last one
[21:36] <engemec> I checked nw-applet, disabled, abled, disabled again and abled again....... after some times...... everything back to work.
[21:36] <mariella> engemac: I'll try remove the nw-apple Thanks
[21:36] <engemec> turned back to work.
[21:36] <MaverikUser> I can connect on MSN on Windows, but on Ubuntu (using: pidgin or amsn or emesene) I can't connect to msn ! I have this error: Error during login, please retry (Connection problem: [Err,o 110] Connecton timed out)
[21:36] <swim> i can't get windows to have space on my 3d sphere with compiz
[21:36] <xangua> xTheGoat121x: sure you want that¿¿ you will not have menu (alt+f1) or the launcher (alt+f2)
[21:36] <shebang_wafflesa> embrik: some distros are easier than windows. I's say that gentoo and CRUX are a hell of a lot harder to set up than windows
[21:36] <xTheGoat121x> xangua, I'm replacing it all with gnome-do and AWN
[21:37] <embrik> never used them - just debian based distros
[21:37] <shebang_wafflesa> And from what i heard, debian used to be very hard to set up
[21:37] <mariella> embrik: I already tied removing and changing at list 7 different drivers. It didn't work. Thanks anyway. you all have been very kind.
[21:38] <engemec> mariella: And more, I executed "dmesg | grep wlan"
[21:38] <goltoof> is there a cli music player, that actually looks like a music player? like an app inside of terminal, like mc
[21:38] <embrik> mariella, In windows I would have opened tha machine, removed the nic, started the computer, turned it off, installed the nic and stared the computer again
[21:39] <engemec> I saw all process, what happened.
[21:39] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: there's mplayer, and VLC which can be run from the command line iirc
[21:39] <xangua> xTheGoat121x: first you laucnhe 'gconf-editor' then go to /desktop/gnomse/session/required_components , and last delete gnome-panel from the 'panel' propertie (should be in blank) and just restart your session http://img600.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmp7mnjhd.png
[21:39] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   this sucks because i don't think anyone knows what i'm asking for..
[21:39] <hax> goltoof: hey :)
[21:40] <madsj> and has ubuntu updated the default texlive to 2009 (or 2010) ?
[21:40] <xTheGoat121x> xangua, that's what I tried, still getting a blank panel up top.
[21:40] <engemec> Well, i have a doubt! I have problems with emphaty! Any more have this problem too?
[21:40] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   you know mc?
[21:40] <shebang_wafflesa>  golktof, are you looking for something with text-based meus?
[21:40] <shebang_wafflesa> yeah
[21:40] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   kind of graphical command line thingy?  i want a music player like that, it runs INSIDE of cli, but with some navigation
[21:41] <blakkheim> goltoof: mpd with ncmpcpp
[21:41] <xangua> xTheGoat121x: then you are doung something wrong
[21:41] <xangua> engemec: no problems with pidgin 2.7.5
[21:41] <mariella> embrik;-)
[21:41] <goltoof> blakkheim:  trying
[21:41] <nertilov> how to change from gnome to kde
[21:41] <hax> goltoof: save a screen in terminal is like "screen -s irssi" then restore the screen whit screen -r irssi, and what wass the one to go out of the screen in terminal ctrl+c? or ctrl+s?
[21:41] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:  yes menus
[21:41] <mariella> bye
[21:41] <engemec> xangua: I'm using pidgin!
[21:41] <xangua> nertilov: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:41] <hax> bye bye
[21:42] <nertilov> i have installed
[21:42] <nertilov> i just need to change now
[21:42] <goltoof> hax... i don't screen... terminator FTW
[21:42] <nertilov> something like switching
[21:42] <embrik> bye and thanks for all help gys and girls
[21:42] <xangua> nertilov: then just restart your session and select kde
[21:42] <hax> goltoof i meen in terminal
[21:42] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: i/'m not sure. Try what that other guy suggested
[21:42] <Jordan_U> goltoof: The keyword to search for is "curses". apt-cache search curses music
[21:43] <mrFrog> Hey can anyone help me out with understanding the empathy messaging client? The thing is for irc, I've used xchat. I like that I can close out of the window and still be in the chat room. Is there a way to do that with empathy?
[21:43] <cemc> is there a way to read the remaining time to the next break from that 'typing break applet' ?
[21:43] <hax> goltoof: so you have one terminal an use the cmd "screen -s irrsi" then type irssi, crtl+c to close it then when ever u want u can type screen -r irssi to start it again
[21:43] <blakkheim> hax: it's ctrl+a+d to detach, not ctrl+c
[21:43] <xangua> mrFrog: empathy is a very limiter irc client, last time i tried it there was not such an option
[21:43] <hax> blakkheim: thx
[21:44] <hax> blakkheim: it wass that i wass after ty
[21:44] <KB1JWQ> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi changed my life, it may change yours. :-) <-- goltoof
[21:44] <hax> my english isent so good to give a strait question
[21:44] <engemec> xangua: Nobody tested emphaty! Amazing!
[21:44] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: i think someone suggested this already. Would this http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/mpd/images/a/a5/Client_ncmpc_05112005_playlist_browser.png work for you?
[21:44] <bobbi> i have a problem. while working on a document in openoffice write, the whole system freezes. after a reboot, openoffice unsuccessfully tried to recover the file. NOW i can't save a document with the same filename?? i get: Error saving the document <name>: The object cannot be accessed due to insufficient user rights. what is this??
[21:45] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   something like that....  looks like mpd with ncmpcpp did it!
[21:45] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: i just googled it. someone else suggested it
[21:45] <sosaited> Whenever I mount a ext43 partition. It mounts as read only. How can I permanently mount it as write+read?
[21:45] <blakkheim> <
[21:46] <sresu> Isn't there any app which analyse a voice and outputs a voice akin?
[21:46] <blakkheim> sosaited: ext43 wow
[21:46] <shebang_wafflesa> sosaited: ou can in /etc/fstab
[21:47] <sosaited> blakkheim: Yeah the ext43 aka typo .
[21:47] <shebang_wafflesa> blakkheim: i guess you were away for a while. there were lots of releases
[21:47] <blakkheim> must have been lol
[21:47] <sosaited> shebang_wafflesa: Can you tell what options for ext4 and write?
[21:48] <CaptSmokey6> I'm on ubuntu 10.10. i just downloaded an application, but i need it translated into English. how do i do that?
[21:48] <shebang_wafflesa> umm, in fstab you want it to say "rw" under options
[21:49] <shebang_wafflesa> sosaited: youre trying to mount a drivve or something, right?
[21:49] <xangua> CaptSmokey6: and that app is¿¿ (guessing...) have you already installed your language on system>administration>language support¿
[21:49] <nertilov> something like switching
[21:49] <nertilov> how to change from gnome to kde
[21:50] <xangua> nertilov: i have already told you to log out and select kde session
[21:50] <sosaited> shebang_wafflesa: Yes an ext4 partition which normally mounts as read only
[21:50] <shebang_wafflesa> nertilov: apt-get install kubuntu i think
[21:50] <Benkinooby> hi there. to repartition my hdds it's best to use a live system. or can i set the partition layout from my existing system and let them be applied at next boot?
[21:51] <nader> hi anyone use twm? how to change green color?
[21:51] <shebang_wafflesa> oh god, twm
[21:51] <Benkinooby> nader, maybe it's better you go to a twm channel. don't think, too many are using it around here
[21:52] <shebang_wafflesa> Benkinooby: if anyone's even in ther
[21:53] <Mocciani> tehnef: Thank you so much. It worked! It didn't work right away. After entering the physical MAC address of the server in the wireless connection settings was the icing on the cake
[21:53] <mobasher> can someone help me setup permissions for a user please :) it's user created by MQ i just want proper permission setup so I can run the app
[21:53] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, good point :P
[21:53] <Mk13> on one of my drives all files have been renamed to filename.ext__ is there a shell script that could rid of the underscores?
[21:54] <tehnef> Mocciani: Wireless connection settings? You mean on the router?
[21:54] <shebang_wafflesa> I'm not even sure if twm is themeable. You might  be better off with a modern derivative
[21:54] <Mocciani> tehnef: no. I meant the wireless section of the network settings on the machine where I installed Ubuntu
[21:55] <planttt> Mk13, 'rename' can do it, but uses regular expressions
[21:55] <Mocciani> first I went to the the server and noted down its mac address, and then entered it on the Ubuntu Wireless settings because there is a section where it asked for it
[21:56] <Mocciani> now I can go for a drive for some fresh air. enough computers!!! take care everyone and once again Tehnef, thanks a lot. have a good weekend
[21:56] <tehnef> Mocciani: that still sounds a little off. it shouldn't matter what your MAC address is, and having more than one NIC with the same MAC on a given network isn't a great idea.
[21:56] <tehnef> Mocciani: as long as it works, i guess :)
[21:56] <Mk13> plantt, how would i get it to be recursive?
[21:57] <planttt> Mk13, good one.
[21:57] <Mocciani> tehnef: yup :) and I'm sure I'll come back here if something's off. Its day 1 after installing Ubuntu
[21:57] <goltoof> next ridiculous cli question... is there a cli based audio streamer, or way to get ncmpcpp to stream audio?
[21:57] <planttt> Mk13, i'd do it with a script
[21:57] <ubuntunoob> I was wondering if some1 can help me install this program, I can't seem to figure out what info to use, I have Ubunut 10.10, TY!    http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/
[21:58] <Benkinooby> goltoof, mplayer
[21:58] <Benkinooby> goltoof, it can also play videos with framebuffers on the cli
[21:58] <planttt> Mk13, I found a 'krename' program, perhaps that can help. Google 'batch rename'
[21:59] <Mk13> planttt, ok, thanks
[21:59] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  i'm having no luck at all getting mplayer to do what i want in cli.
[21:59] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: this http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/What_MPD_Is_and_Is_Not ?
[22:00] <tehnef> ubuntunoob:  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jre-phoenix/ppa" would probably get you what you need
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> oh ok TY
[22:00] <swim> i can't get windows to space on my 3d sphere with compix
[22:00] <swim> compiz
[22:01] <Benkinooby> goltoof, what do you want it to do?
[22:01] <masterko1p> hello, does ubuntu came with chkdisk by default ? (10.04)
[22:02] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  i want a 100% terminal based gui-like interface for playing music, and vids if possible
[22:02] <shebang_wafflesa> masterko1p: do you mean fsck? If so, then yes
[22:02] <AndroidLoverInSF> whats a good linux twitter client, like tweetdeck
[22:02] <goltoof> when i type mplayer, it just pops out mplayer
[22:02] <Diverdude> How do i add gstreamer docs to devhelper in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[22:03] <masterko1p> shebang_wafflesa: oh, in arch is chkfsck, thanks
[22:03] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: cli mplayer wouldn't give you waht you're looking for anyway
[22:03] <shebang_wafflesa> no problem
[22:03] <masterko1p> goltoof: do you wnat a ncurses based interface ?
[22:03] <ArkoldThos> hai, :) I just installed ubuntu 10.10 on an Acer Aspire AZ3 but the function buttons (light ones) are not working, and the battery is not detected by battery gnome shitty :p
[22:03] <ArkoldThos> any clue?
[22:03] <FloodBot4> ArkoldThos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <goltoof> masterko1p:   i suppose that's the term... not familiar with curses
[22:04] <Benkinooby> goltoof, hm, don't know if that is possible... didn't hear of it. if you are in cli, it would make things more difficult. to operated mplayer via cli is pretty straigt forward. you can tell it to print the playlist and add songs, chenge volumen and all..
[22:04] <shebang_wafflesa> master: he already founf the interface he wat ( ithink0- he just can't get it to work
[22:04] <masterko1p> i know that mpd have some clients ncurses based but mplayer hmmm... let me check
[22:04] <shebang_wafflesa> wow, i butchered that
[22:05] <mfaroukg> After i installed the maverick i cant boot the windows xp and it returns to the grub list again and again ??
[22:05] <Benkinooby> goltoof, if there is one thing i learned is, that most of these progs are made by people that are using them a lot. so they know what works best. it still takes some efforts for me to get rid of the gui-way ;) but it pays off
[22:06] <ubuntunoob> tehnef is did something but Now how do I run it so I can use it, TY!
[22:06] <kv102t> Hello, So if i plug in an external HDD. somewhere on ubuntu 10.4 there is a util that shows all drives on the left and then stats on the right.
[22:06] <kv102t> what is it?
[22:06] <masterko1p> goltoof: found it : http://tinyurl.com/3adrg35
[22:06] <beerbroy> have u tried http://sanastro.homeftp.net/debug/farbtabelle/ ?
[22:06] <mfaroukg> hii, After i installed the maverick i cant boot the windows xp and it returns to the grub list again and again ??
[22:07] <Benkinooby> goltoof, maybe you are looking for pytone? http://www.luga.de/pytone/pytone.png
[22:07] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: is just a metter of habbit, i barely use gui, for mplayer the cli just fits for me, it's quicker :)
[22:07] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: It sounds like you accidentally installed grub to your windows partition.
[22:08] <masterko1p> mfaroukg: more info please ?
[22:08] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  no doubt gui is easier, but i like to get as many things working in terminal as i can, since that's where i spend most my time... i may not even end up using it, but i still like to try
[22:08] <Maahes> I'm having an issue. Using the liveusb and I want to change my shell. which $SHELL returns: /bin/bash (not rbash). But running chsh says I may not change shells, and running sudo chsh gives me a PAM authentication error. there is a file for chsh in /etc/pam.d/
[22:08] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: Can you run boot info script as explained here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt to be sure?
[22:08] <masterko1p> goltoof: i just like the cli, easier for me
[22:08] <ArkoldThos> can anyone help me with the brightness function keys? :( i can't see many
[22:09] <Benkinooby> masterko1p, goltoof i think you got me wrong. i was enforcing the cli way and suggested something that fits to goltoof description http://www.luga.de/pytone/pytone.png
[22:09] <Benkinooby> goltoof, it's called pytone
[22:09] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, one min and i will send it, where should i paste ?
[22:09] <shebang_wafflesa> so does typing mplayer in ubuntu launch the GUI to mplayer by default?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | mfaroukg
[22:09] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   yea trying thx.   i was looking for instructions on ncmpcpp and gave up :P
[22:09] <DarsVaeda> after I'm logged into ubuntu i get a password request from gwibber, how do i remove that without removing gwibber?
[22:10] <meera> hi, dears - i opened photos over my gmx, wanted to copy them on my pc but than i deleted my chronik. i deleted emalis as well. what can i do to get photos back?
[22:10] <djs> I broke my xorg after installing KDE and removing it following a guide from "Psychocat" online...  How can I reset the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file if that's the problem?
[22:11] <goltoof> masterkolp:  i think i already know the answer, but is it possible to play video inside of terminal?
[22:11] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: you removed xorg?
[22:11] <dajhorn> Maahes: Just run the shell that you want to use.  `exec zsh` for example.  Add --login if necessary or desired.
[22:11] <Benkinooby> goltoof, if you are looking for more cli support you might give channels of distros that have more cli users a try. maybe archlinux, gentoo, debian...
[22:11] <djs> shebang_wafflesa: No, running startx spat out errors at one point
[22:11] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: but pytone is not a frontend for mplayer is a satndalone, that can (eventually) support xmms
[22:11] <djs> But now it starts loading and my monitor goes black as if it has no signal and I have to reboot
[22:11] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: you could try removing xorg and then typing startx
[22:12] <shebang_wafflesa> ermm, xorg.conf i mean
[22:12] <djs> That'll recreate one?
[22:12] <djs> Using open drivers?
[22:12] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: i think so
[22:12] <djs> I'll give it a shot
[22:12] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   you're right, i am a bit off topic,  but so are most "linux" question here ;)
[22:12] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: i think it'll autogenerate a xorg.conf, i have no idea about the drivers
[22:12] <Benkinooby> masterko1p, if i understoold goltoof correctly he wanted a gui-like cli player... no matter what's "under the hood"
[22:12] <djs> I keep my data on a separate drive from my OS thankfully
[22:13] <djs> brb, removing xorg.conf
[22:13] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/530908/
[22:13] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   support for many formats would be nice
[22:13] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: oh, sorry i think that he wants a mplayer frontend
[22:13] <lullabud> when you mount a remote server using Places->Connect to Server, is there a way to make that mount show up to the filesystem so you can interact with it via the CLI?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: That confirms it. Follow this guide to restore the windows PBR: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[22:14] <Benkinooby> goltoof, never mind... i was not correctiong you. i just wanted to say, that you might be more lucky with usable answers in other channels, where more people with cli experience are around
[22:14] <masterko1p> lullabud: what kinf of server ? SSH server, sft server ?
[22:14] <lullabud> ftp, smb
[22:14] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  i usually do,  i have yet to find a channel as active and knowledgable as this one tho
[22:14] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, will i need to reinstall the ubuntu?
[22:14] <masterko1p> lullabud: use the ftp comand-line aplication
[22:14] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: No.
[22:14] <masterko1p> check the man pages of the same
[22:14] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   and not filled with 12 year old pubks
[22:14] <lullabud> masterko1p: so what you're saying is "no"
[22:15] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: i am a cli user
[22:15] <goltoof> *punks
[22:15] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, thanks i will get back to you.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: You're welcome.
[22:15] <oal> Anyone here know if the programmable buttons on Logitech G700 (mouse) work in Ubuntu?
[22:15] <ArkoldThos> can anyone help me with the brightness function keys? :( i can't see nothing >.<
[22:15] <masterko1p> lullabud: no, i am saying that you can aesse ftp server using the command "ftp"
[22:15] <masterko1p> !man ftp
[22:15] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, can i change the sequence of booting after that?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: Change in what way?
[22:16] <masterko1p> goltoof: i am always on the archlinux channel if you want help, just ask ( nick masterkorp )
[22:16] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, i mean make windows 1st boot
[22:16] <Benkinooby> goltoof, i always found good answers in gentoo channel (if you have some linux experience) and debian. but i have to admit, that the ubuntu channel is the most active one. but if it comes to a certain complexity of question, ubuntu channel might not be the best places. still it's not wrong to ask here ;)
[22:16] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, i used to do that
[22:17] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, i use the grub-update
[22:17] <lullabud> masterko1p: i know how to use ftp.  i'm asking if there's a way to mount a remote share on the filesystem using the gui.
[22:17] <Benkinooby> masterko1p, i never said, that NO cli users  are in here...
[22:17] <shebang_wafflesa> Yeah, i hang out in the ubuntu channel even though i'm a *BSD user. It's just much more active
[22:17] <tehnef> lullabud: what are you wanting to do again>
[22:17] <goltoof> masterko1p:   ok thx!  now if i could just configure pytone :(
[22:18] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, never felt the need to try bsd... why do you use/prefer it ?
[22:18] <lullabud> tehnef: i want to mount a remote share using the GUI
[22:18] <lullabud> tehnef: and i want that mount to show up on the CLI
[22:18] <tehnef> lullabud: when you mount something using the places:connect, it usually mounts in ~/.gvfs
[22:18] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: According to your grub.cfg windows should already be the first option.
[22:18] <lullabud> oh, interesting...
[22:18] <Benkinooby> goltoof, try the man command ;)
[22:18] <tehnef> lullabud: it doesn't show up as a system mount. i'm guessing it's using fuse or something
[22:18] <masterko1p> goltoof: the documentation is in their page
[22:19] <shebang_wafflesa> Benbkin: many of the reasons why one would use gentoo. I found it to be more stable than linux, the upgrade process is more reliable, and i like to build from the ground up (which isn't a unique feature to te BSD's)
[22:19] <masterko1p> goltoof: read fisrt, ask later :)
[22:19] <Benkinooby> goltoof, are you using screen, tmux or something like that?
[22:19] <shebang_wafflesa> And actually the upgrade process varies between BSDs
[22:19] <goltoof> Benkinooby: can you believe that i actually do man [command] every time i need to learn something??   took me almost a year to pick that up
[22:19] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   terminator
[22:19] <lullabud> tehnef: many many thanks, that's exactly what i was hoping to find
[22:20] <bobbi> an unsuccessful recovery attempt after a crash when using openoffice writer results in me being unable to save documents with _the same filename_ as the one i used when the system crashed. any ideas?
[22:20] <masterko1p> shebang_wafflesa: agree, but i just don't like to compile everything, so i use archlinux
[22:20] <tehnef> lullabud: np
[22:20] <tehnef> bobbi: remove the file with the offending filename? sounds like a permissions screwup
[22:21] <shebang_wafflesa> master: i really like arch, but i've found that some of the packages yield buggy binaries. FreeBSD has a pretty good binary package manager if you don't have the time to compile everything
[22:21] <lullabud> tehnef: you wouldn't happen to know a cli way to do the places->connect to server mounts, would you?
[22:21] <mfaroukg> i used to use this :  sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[22:21] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, my maybe, if i am more settled with linux i'll give bsd a try. the only reason why i use linux is, because i tried the linux cd before the bsd cd when i wanted to try a new os ;) ... but on the other hand, my gentoo experiences costed me nights and nearly tears :)
[22:21] <tehnef> lullabud: i just use mount for that type of stuff, but it doesn't put it in .gvfs obviously
[22:22] <mfaroukg> Thanks, i have to reboot now
[22:22] <masterko1p> lullabud: i just awnsered you before
[22:22] <shebang_wafflesa> Benkin: that's another reason why i run BSD. It's the one i have the most exposure to
[22:22] <lullabud> tehnef: yeah, i was hoping to get standardized syntax for different protocols...
[22:22] <tehnef> lullabud: e.g. "mount -t cifs -o user=blah,password=foo,owner=username,rw //smbserver/share /media/windows_ick"
[22:22] <bobbi> tehnef: yes i get a permission error in open office like object not accessible due to user rights. but i've tried deleting the file multiple times. its in my ~/Document folder and i can save the filename with all other programs. just ooo
[22:22] <lullabud> tehnef: for instance, in osx you type "open 'smb://servername/share' and it mounts it just like you'd connected to it in the gui
[22:23] <tehnef> lullabud: oooh i didn't know that about osx. shiny.
[22:23] <tehnef> lullabud: not that i know of. i'm more of a mac geek myself as well.
[22:23] <lullabud> tehnef: yeah, i'd love to have that standard syntax for linux...
[22:24] <Kapace> hello, is there a way to force a opengl application to use Mesa Software renderer instead of the dri renderer?
[22:25] <tehnef> lullabud: i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're SOL on that
[22:27] <cryptik> l
[22:28] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, if i get that correct, bsd is able to use the software that can be used with linux... so it's just a different kernel und software management?
[22:28] <bazhang> !ot | Benkinooby
[22:29] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, never mind, found a good site explaining it
[22:29] <shebang_wafflesa> Benkin: umm, kind of. Different kernel, different API (i think), different tools, diiferent fs. Most of these things won't be noticed by casual users
[22:29] <bazhang> shebang_wafflesa, please stick to the topic
[22:30] <blakkheim> is there such a thing as a "casual" freebsd user? lol
[22:30] <ademos> Kubuntu Forums refuses to let me register ---- the system continually tells me that I I didn't answer the verification questions correctly, but they don't tell me WHICH question is wrong. Any ideas? ---- Here's what I entered: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4742/kubunturegistration.png
[22:30] <shebang_wafflesa> PC-BSD users ;). but yeah, we're getting off topic
[22:30] <ademos> I already asked at #kubuntu , but got no answer
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ademos: You didn't include the period after "size".
[22:32] <ademos> Jordan_U: Oooh, that may be it; thanks!
[22:32] <laziac> can someone explain why some notifications appear snug in the upper right corner while others have a sizeable gap between them and the top of the screen? intended behavior or should I file a bug report?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ademos: You're welcome.
[22:32] <ademos> Jordan_U: Nope...same response, they tell me SOMETHING is wrong with my answers, but they don't specify WHAT is wrong...
[22:33] <ademos> "You did not answer the verification questions correctly."
[22:33] <benste> hi, could some try to explain me the following "error" with EXT4 causing slow boot ?
[22:33] <benste> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533
[22:34] <lullabud> tehnef: yeah... the best thing i can find is xdg-open, and it doesn't handle remote shares.
[22:37] <bobbi> i get a message: document file 'name' is locked for editing by unknown user message from openoffice write when my user owns the file
[22:38] <ArkAnGiCIA> White Rabbit !
[22:39] <benste> slow boot - ext 4 issue ? - http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533 - need your help
[22:42] <bobbi> tehnef: ok i solved it. it was a hidden "lock" file in the same directory
[22:42] <Starn> how can i resize my linux partition i've tried gparted i've tried windows but both only let me resize the windows partition..
[22:42] <fnordz> hey all, i have a script that i've made for two finger scrolling that i have set to run as a startup application, but it appears i also need it to run after resuming from suspend... i've tried to add it in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ but it doesn't seem to be working... any thoughts?
[22:44] <lfaraone> in curl, how can I specify an arbitrary filename when I'm doing a file upload? like, I want the filename sent to the server to be different than that of the file on the local disk.
[22:44] <xangua> Starn: use gparted from the ubuntu live cd or from the won gparted live cd
[22:45] <Starn> xangua what if i have no CD's?
[22:45] <Starn> on
[22:45] <Starn>                 gparted live cd
[22:45] <xangua> live usb then Starn
[22:45] <night> i download unity package should i restart computer to run that package
[22:45] <Starn> a;right
[22:46] <xangua> night what exactly are you refering to 'unity package' ¿
[22:46] <fredrik> hello guys
[22:46] <sisif> Hello guys. Is it normal not to have a xorg.conf in /etc/X11 or it`s just my install broken ?
[22:46] <night> my version is maverick ok
[22:47] <goltoof> sisif:  i've seen it happen to someone else today
[22:47] <night> and downloaded that to run on my desktop
[22:47] <fredrik> I have a small problem I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help me out with. I accidentally removed the e-mail indicator icon on the tray, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to get it back?
[22:47] <goltoof> sisif:   not sure how often it happens, but it's odd, mine has it (10.10)
[22:47] <sisif> goltoof, any clues on what to do next (runnin 10.10 x64 now)
[22:47] <night> i mean unity interface netbook
[22:48] <goltoof> sisif, i would say reinstall x but idk if that would keep it from happening again
[22:48] <xangua> night then just close your session and start 'unity session'
[22:48] <goltoof> *xorg
[22:48] <night> how
[22:48] <DSHR> no xorg.conf is normal
[22:48] <xangua> CLOSE YOUR USER SESSION night
[22:48] <sisif> DSHR, how come? Then how / where can I set up my config ?
[22:48] <night> how can i do that
[22:48] <xangua> from the session menu...
[22:49] <xangua> that little on/off icon
[22:49] <goltoof> DSHR:  o ok, what makes it appear/disappear?
[22:49] <DSHR> sisif, for me its fully automatic
[22:49] <xangua> or is it 'power' icon
[22:49] <laziac> can someone explain why some notifications appear snug in the upper right corner while others have a sizeable gap between them and the top of the screen? intended behavior or should I file a bug report?
[22:50] <fredrik> I have a small problem I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help me out with. I accidentally removed the e-mail indicator icon on the tray, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to get it back?
[22:50] <xangua> fredrik: default behavior, want to change¿ http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/tweak-notifyosd-notifications-in-ubuntu.html
[22:50] <sisif> DSHR, I`m asking because I`m having LOTS of issues with video since I installed 10.10. Ati closed drivers don`t work - I get reboots, closed screens, all kinds of errors, etc. The open source drivers give about the same issues, only fewer .
[22:50] <DSHR> Sisif: if have no problems with Xorg, you should remove the xorg.cong
[22:50] <fredrik> xangua, thanks
[22:51] <DSHR> Sisif: I see, running intel here
[22:51] <goltoof> sisif:    switch to nvidia.. poof, done
[22:51] <rmrfslash> How do I frickin' disable nouveau
[22:51] <DSHR> Sisif thn you have to  create a config
[22:51] <rmrfslash> that sucker just doesn't want to not load...
[22:51] <sisif> DSHR, ATI HD 2400
[22:52] <rmrfslash> I added a modprobe file w/  options nouveau modeset=0
[22:52] <DSHR> Sisif: Never used anything but thinkpads with intel
[22:52] <sisif> DSHR, can`t I just dpkg-reconfigure the package or is there any other way to generate a Xorg.conf ?
[22:52] <rmrfslash> ran sudo update-initramfs -u
[22:52] <ParkerR> Hey
[22:52] <sisif> DSHR, lucky you.
[22:52] <DSHR> Sisif, I think so
[22:53] <DSHR> Sisif, I had tons of problems with intel too
[22:53] <fredrik> xangua, doesn't seem to  be what I'm ooking for... You know, the envelope-icon on the top-right of the screen, well I accidentally removed it from the tray, and I'm looking for a way to get it back..
[22:53] <xangua> (16:50:42) xangua: fredrik: default behavior, want to change¿ http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/tweak-notifyosd-notifications-in-ubuntu.html was refering to laziac :S
[22:54] <xangua> fredrik: just add the indicator back to the panel
[22:54] <bazhang> fredrik, indicator-applet is what its called
[22:54] <sympt0m> If I were to want to copy my whole Ubuntu environment onto another computer, how would I do that? Like... basically making my own distro so I can install it on another system.
[22:54] <xangua> right clic> add
[22:54] <Linuxaddict> Does anyone know how to solve or remove the service in UNR 10.10 id errors unknown user id?
[22:54] <fredrik> well I choose add to panel, yet I cana't find it in the list...
[22:54] <bazhang> !clone | sympt0m
[22:55] <sympt0m> wow, that didn't make a whole lot of sense
[22:55] <fredrik> ah, yeah, just had a weird name, thanks bazhang and xangua
[22:55] <bazhang> sympt0m, or you could make a installable iso with something like remastersys
[22:55] <carloscrespo> buenas noches
[22:55] <sympt0m> that's what I'm looking for, is there a free program to do that?
[22:55] <bazhang> sympt0m, its called remastersys
[22:55] <carloscrespo> alguien podria ayudarme sobre  como instalar joomla en ubuntu
[22:55] <sympt0m> ill check it out, thanks!
[22:56] <Linuxaddict>  Basically when I boot up UNR 10.10 I sometimes get the error unkwown user id
[22:56] <bazhang> carloscrespo, english here please espanol in #ubuntu-es
[22:56] <mawst> Is there a player that supports APE but can tell where tracks end and begin?
[22:56] <mawst> Movie Player doesn't seem to do this.
[22:56] <sisif> DSHR, any idea how to generate a new xorg.conf ?
[22:56] <Linuxaddict> also are we still able to install gnome on UNR 10.10 and get rid of unity
[22:56] <Linuxaddict> ?
[22:57] <goltoof> sisif:   sudo vi xorg.conf
[22:57] <Jordan_U> Linuxaddict: Yes.
[22:57] <xangua> Linuxaddict: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <Linuxaddict> yeh I know the command
[22:57] <Linuxaddict> I was just checking
[22:57] <Linuxaddict> thanks
[22:57] <DSHR> Sisif,  I think so, than you have a start for vi
[22:57] <mazadizzer> Trying to upgrade UNR 10.04 to 10.10 and getting an error to do with not being able to upgrade libdrm-nouveau1, tried to apt-get remove the package but it seems that the entire installation is dependent upon it, how can I proceed?
[22:58] <cjk> hi, are there any mirrors out there for old unsupported ubuntu releases? I am looking for an 8.10 intrepid mirror
[22:58] <DSHR> Sisif: Or better emacs ...
[22:58] <goltoof> or better vi  ;)
[22:58] <Linuxaddict> so how do I resolve this unknown user id error, any suggestions?
[22:58] <xangua> cjk:  no
[22:58] <sisif> goltoof, I know *how to crete a xorg.conf empty file. I meant .. is there a tool to generate me a default xorg.conf based on my specs ?
[22:58] <bazhang> old-releases.ubuntu.com cjk ?
[22:58] <Linuxaddict> I've tried changing my id on my user but no go
[22:58] <Linuxaddict> I have a support user account
[22:59] <Linuxaddict> which seems to be causing the issue
[22:59] <cjk> xangua, no underground ubuntu sysadmin society out there?
[22:59] <xangua> ¿¿
[22:59] <Jordan_U> sisif: An empty xorg.confg is basically a default xorg.conf. Just add whatever sections you want to have custom sections for.
[22:59] <KB1JWQ> cjk: There is, but we run supported things. :-)
[22:59] <goltoof> sisif, my experience is that the driver creates it along with whatever control panel for the card
[22:59] <becca> help!  I've reset my iphone (all content and settings) and now my phone is stuck in a loop with the apple logo.  I have no backup in itunes.  I want to get back to a factory settings iOS, how can I do this.  I can't seem to get the device into DFU mode.  Despair is imminent!
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> erm this is the ubuntu channel
[23:00] <KB1JWQ> becca: How is this even slightly Ubuntu related?
[23:00] <sisif> Haha :D
[23:00] <cjk> ok i guess bad luck for me then
[23:00] <goltoof> sisif: my nvidia control panel has a "save to xorg.conf" button, and i can manually open it and specify my own resolutions
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> try google
[23:00] <Jordan_U> sisif: If you really want all of the options hard coded in a long xorg.conf you can use Xorg --configure, but I don't recommend that.
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> for an iphone irc chanel
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> this isn't the place
[23:00] <becca> KB1JWQ, wrong chan, sorry!
[23:00] <xangua> KB1JWQ: i hope he/she doesn't answers 'is related 'cause i use ubuntu'
[23:01] <goltoof> sisif:   i had the same thing with my ati card, but ati was a nightmare and froze up my system, so i switched to nvidia and couldn't be happier
[23:01] <becca> KB1JWQ, its xchat switching to ubuntu chan by default even though I opened another chan just before
[23:01] <becca> xangua, erm, did you even read the reply above?
[23:02] <administrator> spaccotutto
[23:02] <sisif> goltoof, It`s kinda hard to unsolder my GPU from my notebook MB :D
[23:02] <benste> nobody can help me with http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533 ?
[23:02] <bazhang> administrator, english here please #ubuntu-it for italiano
[23:02] <xangua> becca: normally things like what i said tend to happen, just saying, don't take it personal ;)
[23:03] <Linuxaddict> why the heck are you wanting to unsolder you gpu
[23:03] <Linuxaddict> ?
[23:03] <Linuxaddict> do you mean remove your cpu
[23:03] <aroman> hey all, anyone have any preformance regressions to report after Lucid>Maverick?
[23:03] <becca> xangua, np ;0)
[23:03] <benste> aroman: only on boottiem - http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533
[23:04] <mazadizzer> well since no-one has any ideas i guess my option is a clean install of 10.10 and scrap this installation
[23:05] <Linuxaddict> whats wrong
[23:05] <Linuxaddict> sorry I've only just joined the channel
[23:05] <mazadizzer> Trying to upgrade UNR 10.04 to 10.10 and getting an error to do with not being able to upgrade libdrm-nouveau1, tried to apt-get remove the package but it seems that the entire installation is dependent upon it, how can I proceed?
[23:06] <Linuxaddict> ahh that is tricky
[23:06] <Justin__> hello room
[23:06] <Linuxaddict> are you sure the entire installation is dependant  on it
[23:06] <Kapace> mazadizzer, can you apt-get upgrade?
[23:06] <Justin__> has anyone here dealt with ntfs formatted drives under ubuntu server?
[23:07] <Linuxaddict> also have you tried booting Ubuntu with an earlier kernel/
[23:07] <Linuxaddict> ?
[23:07] <mazadizzer> Kapace, I can, all my packages are up to date
[23:07] <Linuxaddict> then updating
[23:07] <Sonic132> Can someone take a look at my posts on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 and help me out? I really want to get my dual-boot working again.
[23:07] <Justin__> im thinking of switching from freenas
[23:07] <mazadizzer> Linuxaddict, how do I boot with a different kernel?
[23:07] <Kapace> mazadizzer, whats error/ log message?
[23:07] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: I believe he's referring to choosing an older one from the boot menu (at boot).
[23:08] <Linuxaddict> usually when you have updated when you boot up and see the grub version you will see an option for the previous state ubuntu was in showing a different kernel version
[23:08] <Linuxaddict> this is usually the second or third option
[23:08] <Justin__> freenas does not seem to work well with my ntfs drives
[23:09] <Sonic132> Hey y'all having some issues with fixing my grub/mbr situation so that both windows and Ubuntu will boot. Check here for details/history. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 Please help.
[23:09] <Linuxaddict> so the top option in Ubuntu will be the latest kernel running on Ubuntu and the option under neath will have a different kernal showing
[23:10] <Linuxaddict> sorry I ment the top option in the grub menu
[23:10] <Sonic132> Newest stuff always goes on top.
[23:11] <sisif> Jordan_U, apparently Xorg - configure gives me a fatal error :D
[23:12] <mazadizzer> Kapace, Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[23:12] <mazadizzer> i'll just go and try booting into a different kernel
[23:12] <mazadizzer> brb
[23:12] <Linuxaddict> ok
[23:12] <Linuxaddict> I need to reboot so brb as well :)
[23:13] <Sonic132> Anyone wanna make me feel stupid? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639
[23:14] <mazadizzer> Didn't get the option to boot into a different kernel
[23:14] <mazadizzer> think it will probably be easier just to do a fresh install of 10.10
[23:14] <mazadizzer> it's only a HTPC anyway so nothing vital stored on it
[23:15] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: Ok so when you boot. You don't get a menu? You just boot straight into the OS?
[23:15] <mazadizzer> Sonic132, that's correct
[23:15] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: Oh your single boot right?
[23:15] <mazadizzer> Sonic132, yup
[23:16] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: Makes sense then.  Do a reinstall.
[23:16] <Kapace> mazadizzer, does google help with that error message?
[23:16] <ish_> hey guys
[23:16] <Kapace> do you have 'held packages'?
[23:16] <ish_> im trying to use netcat to send the lines of a text file, i went to send one line every second
[23:17] <Sonic132> I don't want to have to do a reinstall of two OSes myself. Especially since all the drivers were a pain to hunt down.
[23:17] <ish_> what command is that
[23:17] <Kapace> ish_, man nc
[23:17] <Kapace> look at -i
[23:17] <mazadizzer> Kapace, As far as I know I don;t have any held packages
[23:17] <ish_> i tried -i but it didnt seem to be sending lines
[23:18] <mazadizzer> but I remember I had to fiddle around quite a bit to get the video working, so I probably messed something up
[23:18] <ish_> it would sometimes send half a partial line
[23:18] <mazadizzer> hopefully it should be more straightforward next time!
[23:18] <Kapace> mazadizzer, yeah, so reinstall is probably the best solution
[23:18] <Kapace> although, with some log searching, and cleaning up etc, you might be able to fix it
[23:19] <Sonic132> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 Anyone want to help me fix my mbr/grub so that both OSes work. Instead of just Windows?
[23:20] <four2zero> im running 10.4 and have an external hard drive via usb port and would like to change the permission to write allowed when transfering files via ftp ?
[23:21] <four2zero> when i right click on the external icon from desktop, it shows permission tab as 'could not be determined'.
[23:22] <four2zero> and fstab does not show the device string
[23:23] <facepunch> question:   when you first login to a server via SSH for the first time it says that it will store a figure print of the host...  where is that stored?
[23:23] <[daemon]> facepunch: .ssh in your home
[23:24] <[daemon]> facepunch: how should it - it wasnt conected during installation so the fstab wont know it
[23:24] <[daemon]> facepunch: run hwinfo --cdrom to find out
[23:24] <facepunch> i think you mean  four2zero
[23:25] <[daemon]> Args damn completion :)
[23:25] <Sonic132> Come on! Usually people are great at fixing grub/mbr problems.
[23:26] <linxeh> is there any way to stop ubuntu chewing battery life as if it was free?
[23:26] <[daemon]> linxeh: yes - use openSUSE
[23:26] <Sonic132> Power Management?
[23:26] <linxeh> [daemon]: hohohoho. oh, I see. opensuse isnt a debian derivative. oops.
[23:27] <[daemon]> linxeh: so what?
[23:27] <Mint> hi all
[23:27] <linxeh> [daemon]: I said *ubuntu*. there is no way I'm sticking suse / redhat crap on here
[23:28] <Vogg_win32> and ubuntu is so much better ?
[23:28] <benbro> how can I find all the directories a package put files into?
[23:28] <[daemon]> linxeh: eh eh eh - crap it is then
[23:28] <Mint> lol
[23:28] <linxeh> osx manages 5-6 hours, windows 7 manages 3-4 hours on this 4 year old macbook. ubuntu barely manages 2 hours of irssi over ssh
[23:28] <blakkheim> linxeh: use os x then
[23:28] <bazhang> [daemon], install suse is not a viable help option here. so please dont
[23:28] <rui_> hi all
[23:28] <bazhang> blakkheim, please..
[23:28] <MrStarbuck83> hi everyone
[23:28] <rui_> can anyone help me
[23:28] <blackshirt> rui_: hey
[23:28] <[daemon]> bazhang: huh - why not?
[23:28] <rui_> ?
[23:28] <linxeh> blakkheim: I've been using linux as my main OS since 1995. I'm not going to switch to OSX now
[23:29] <bazhang> [daemon], check the topic here.
[23:29] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:29] <linxeh> blakkheim: I run OSX when I need to, and that is all
[23:29] <Mint> rui_, whats wrong
[23:29] <Sean93> This there way to make ushare only work for one xbox? so that no other xboxs could even see it?
[23:29] <UserX7> linxeh: have you tried powertop?
[23:29] <rui_> blackshirt:I remove from the panel my name and the shutdown button can u helpme to bring back?
[23:29] <Mint> what about xbox
[23:29] <mostholy> hi can someone help me troubleshoot an error with GIMP?
[23:30] <[daemon]> bazhang: so I'm forced to tell to use *buntu even if it is bugged?
[23:30] <mostholy> or perhaps direct me to the best place to ask
[23:30] <Mint> lol rui_
[23:30] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:30] <MrStarbuck83> I have a question about the video kernel parameter. I'd like to use a special frame buffer driver (tridentfb), so I set up grub2 to pass video=directfb:800x600 but it won't change anything. When I use modprobe to insert the driver, it works like a charm.... any thoughts on how to properly set this up on boot time?
[23:30] <rui_> Mint:hi
[23:30] <Sonic132> Hey blackshirt. I got a new issue. Old issues fixed. Details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639
[23:30] <bazhang> [daemon], this is ubuntu support. try ##linux if you can't stick to the topic here.
[23:30] <MrStarbuck83> ( i checked the logs, to make sure, the parameter is passed, it is! )
[23:30] <[daemon]> bazhang: why so hostile?
[23:30] <Benkinooby> hi, i used one virtual terminal to try mplayer with framebuffer. i started it with tmux (terminal multiplexer). now my terminal looks somewhat "framebuffered".i can't take a screenshot of it. but the letters are not as clear as in an other virtual terminal where no mplayer ran. any suggestions?
[23:31] <mostholy> i am getting an error relating to libbabl that prevents GIMP from running, can someone help?
[23:31] <zelo> Hello i need some help with ubuntu 10.10 on my pc. When i connect to a network by wifi (ar9285 based) the os freeze. When im connected by ethernet everything goes fine. Do you know how to solve this?
[23:31] <blackshirt> mostholy: can you pastebin output completely ??
[23:31] <Mint> zelo, in ubuntu 10.10 everything freeze :P
[23:31] <mostholy> blackshirt: it's just one line i could post it here if you like
[23:32] <Mint> also sleep
[23:32] <Mint> ;)
[23:32] <blackshirt> Sonic132: hey bro.. wait a minute
[23:32] <Sonic132> blackshirt: Ok.
[23:32] <rui_> Mint:can u helpeme
[23:32] <Mint> rui_, i am new in 10.10
[23:32] <rui_> ok
[23:32] <Mint> rtfm in google
[23:32] <Mint> :D
[23:33] <rui_> Mint:ok
[23:33] <bazhang> !rtfm > Mint
[23:33] <tensorpudding> rui_: what's the issue
[23:33] <bazhang> Mint, that is completely unacceptable here.
[23:33] <tensorpudding> rui_: you want to restore the panel/
[23:33] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:33] <zelo> Mint well i dont have any problems on my ibm t61 and everytking is working out of the box but i cant solve this problem on other notebook.
[23:33] <rui_> tensorpudding:yes
[23:33] <tensorpudding> i think there is a factoid for that...
[23:33] <blackshirt> Sonic132: i don't play well with ubuntu...
[23:33] <tensorpudding> !panel
[23:33] <tensorpudding> eh
[23:34] <bazhang> resetpanel
[23:34] <Sean93> This there way to make ushare only work for one xbox? so that no other xboxs could even see it?
[23:34] <tensorpudding> !resetpanel
[23:34] <Sean93> is**
[23:34] <Sonic132> blackshirt: What do you mean?
[23:34] <tensorpudding> ah, that would do it
[23:34] <blackshirt> Sonic132: i mean, play well with wubi
[23:34] <blackshirt> Sonic132: i'm sorry..
[23:34] <rui_> tensorpudding: i remove the button with my name and the button to shutdown
[23:34] <Sonic132> blackshirt: Ah...well I'm not using wubi anymore. That's part of the problem.
[23:34] <Mint> zelo, i have.. i went to shopping today.. and come back.... my computer freeze if i want "wake" it up
[23:34] <Sonic132> blackshirt: I have Ubuntu on an actual partition. Used lvpm to do it.
[23:34] <Linuxaddict> Hi
[23:34] <Mint> sry about my english
[23:34] <Linuxaddict> back again
[23:34] <ArkAnGiCIA> hi
[23:35] <DJZee> wubi desn't work very well
[23:35] <tensorpudding> rui_: just do what ubottu said to do, run "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel" in a terminal
[23:35] <blackshirt> Sonic132: are you successfully transfer it to actual partition ??
[23:35] <jparks> DJZee: How so? Every time i've used it it has worked well
[23:35] <Sonic132> DJZee: It's not all bad as long as you never need any more space lol.
[23:35] <jparks> It's a little slow of course, you're running off of a file rather than a physical device
[23:35] <DJZee> well, it works a little slower is all
[23:35] <DJZee> and i have had problems on some dell machines
[23:35] <DJZee> with xp
[23:35] <jparks> when i use it though, its generally because i'm too lazy to install it to a USB
[23:35] <Lantizia> Hey I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1525 (came with Ubuntu, onboard Intel graphics using official drivers and xrandr)... I've conected the S-Video TV out... does anyone know how I can get it put in PAL-I mode instead of NTSC as this TV doesn't do NTSC
[23:36] <Sonic132> blackshirt: Yeah. It's on an actual partition. Now I can't get grub to work. Now that I uninstalled wubi from Windows.
[23:36] <jparks> so i use WUBI to install onto a physical device
[23:36] <Sonic132> Read this. Particularly the posts at the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639
[23:36] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:36] <DJZee> try booting from a live cd or usb and reinstalling grub
[23:37] <jparks> i'm on the endless search to find the best linux hypervisor
[23:37] <DJZee> uh xen??
[23:37] <Sonic132> DJZee: Ubuntu wont boot off the copied disc I have.  My Ubuntu installation is x64 10.10 though.
[23:38] <Mint> bazhang, okay i will now
[23:38] <jparks> but then i just found out about some nifty things i can do with KVM so i'm probably going to change my mind
[23:38] <jparks> I used Xen on Suse, but i've never tried it on ubuntu (because i'm scared to touch the kernel)
[23:38] <Mint> lol
[23:38] <Mint> okay
[23:38] <DJZee> Sonic132: if it's a live cd the grub program should be the same on the kubuntu cd.
[23:39] <jparks> DJZee you prefer Xen to KVM i take it?
[23:39] <Sonic132> DJZee: I really don't want to reinstall both Win and Ubuntu again because it would likely fail. Since the livecd wont boot.
[23:39] <Mint> i like ubuntu... but 10.10 dont know yet
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> I had a problem with the dell back software in windows it kept writing to the mbr
[23:39] <jparks> i'm working on figuring out why i can't launch libvirtd (other than the whole, i just compiled it thing)
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> but once I removed it
[23:39] <DJZee> jparks: yes it's a bit better.
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> then reinstalled grub
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> everything worked again
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> :)
[23:39] <Mint> :D
[23:39] <Sonic132> DJZee: Yeah...I was thinking that. But it wont install grub off the disc. I have to download it, and without internet access capable in Kubuntu Live CD. I can't.
[23:39] <jparks> was playing with FC14 today, saw virt-manager 0.8.5 in action, i can't wait to get it working on Ubuntu
[23:40] <DJZee> Sonic132: ok. so is it possible to boot any os (win or ubuntu) off your hard disk?
[23:40] <Sonic132> DJZee: Is there by any chance a Grub/Grub2 deb somewhere I could download, transfer over, and install from the livecd?
[23:40] <Sonic132> DJZee: Windows boots.
[23:40] <jparks> i refuse to try to learn how to use Fedora.. sysconfig this and chkconfig that.. i'm so stuck on Ubuntu's ease of use i've become fat and complacent
[23:40] <Mint> eeee... ubuntu 10.10 is better than windows 7 ... yeah
[23:40] <jparks> I <3 debian based distros
[23:41] <Linuxaddict> Does anyone know how to fix this issue I am having sometimes http://oi56.tinypic.com/2q8zxog.jpg
[23:41] <Sonic132> Mint: Not using 7. I have WinXP Pro Lite for Netbooks.
[23:41] <DJZee> Sonic132: well, there should be a .deb somewhere.
[23:41] <jparks> The only thing i really like about 10.10 so far is that it updates during setup, and learned how to multi-task
[23:41] <Mint> Sonic132, i have here in same computer win xp home.. (Y)
[23:41] <DJZee> Sonic132: i just haven't used grub in such a long time sorry
[23:41] <Sonic132> DJZee: Well whichever way you suggest.
[23:41] <Mint> i dont want any win vista or 7
[23:42] <Sonic132> Mint: Congrats you much have had fun.
[23:42] <jparks> It's too bad fluxbuntu fell through.. i'd like to have seen where they went with it.. i love fluxbox
[23:42] <Mint> yeah
[23:42] <Mint> a lot i guess
[23:42] <Linuxaddict> any ideas
[23:42] <frxstrem> how can I get the old Ubuntu theme (from before 9.10 or 10.04, I think)?
[23:42] <Linuxaddict> you mean gnome
[23:42] <_donvito> how to switch from gnome to kde
[23:42] <Sonic132> Ubuntu is like the hydra. There's like 20,000 heads on it.
[23:42] <Mint> frxstrem, google?
[23:42] <DJZee> frxstrem: you may be able to get it from gnome's themes site.
[23:43] <bazhang> Mint, just google is not an acceptable support advice
[23:43] <Mint> i am in ubutnu at the moment =)
[23:43] <jparks> _donvito there are a few easy and a few hard steps to do that
[23:43] <_donvito> well the safest
[23:43] <_donvito> :)
[23:43] <bazhang> _donvito, install kubuntu-desktop
[23:43] <_donvito> i need the safe
[23:43] <jparks> easiest i can suggest would be open up a terminal and type "sudo tasksel kubuntu-desktop"
[23:43] <jparks> without the quotes
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> frxstrem, not sure, but you might be able to just use "sudo apt-get install human-theme" to get the old theme (untested)
[23:44] <Mint> gfu
[23:44] <jparks> you can easily reverse it by using "sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop"
[23:44] <bazhang> Mint, what?
[23:44] <frxstrem> ZykoticK9, okay, I'll try that
[23:44] <bazhang> jparks, that wont do it
[23:44] <dasen> hi guys, can u believe i'm running natty?
[23:44] <jparks> which, tasksel or autoremove?
[23:44] <Mint> natty, where ?
[23:44] <_donvito> nertil@Maverick:~$ sudo tasksel kubuntu-desktop
[23:44] <_donvito> Usage:
[23:44] <jparks> i never (EVER) install the actual desktop
[23:44] <dasen> Mint: in my laptop
[23:44] <Linuxaddict> I keep getting this message most of the time Glib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[23:44] <jparks> tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[23:44] <bazhang> jparks, kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage so that wont do it. you'd want !puregnome
[23:44] <dasen> I upgraded
[23:45] <Linuxaddict> when I boot up
[23:45] <BlueMatt> anyone ever gotten mysqlnd to compile and work on an ubuntu server
[23:45] <jparks> what
[23:45] <Sonic132> frxstrem: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Old+Ubuntu+Gnome+Theme
[23:45] <Mint> dasen, lol.. i believe u now
[23:45] <jparks> it's not? hmm.. i've gotten it to work before?
[23:45] <rww> Sonic132: Don't use lmgtfy links in #ubuntu, please.
[23:45] <frxstrem> ZykoticK9, it worked :D
[23:45] <jparks> i always install from a minimal command line, i'd listen to someone else _donvito =)
[23:45] <Sonic132> What? Why?
[23:45] <Linuxaddict> any suggestions how to solve or get rid of this error Glib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[23:45] <jparks> (which is why i use tasksel hehe)
[23:46] <bazhang> Sonic132, its not acceptable. just dont.
[23:46] <Mint> dasen, but what is natty ?
[23:46] <Mint> =)
[23:46] <calaen0> I have a custom-compiled arcmsr module that I want to try to resolve some issues with the arcmsr module that ships with Ubuntu. I have it built and it is in /lib/modules/*/extras/ However, when I restart the machine, the default module in /lib/modules/*/drivers/scsi/ gets loaded. How do I tell Ubuntu to load the module from extras/ ?
[23:46] <rww> Sonic132: It's rude. If you found something helpful using Google, link to the page you found and perhaps mention that you found it on google. No need for the indirection.
[23:46] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, actually the link provided by !puregome https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome actually says to remove the desktop package.  i got caught on this change a couple of week ago.
[23:46] <bazhang> !natty | mint dasen
[23:46] <osaucey|aw> im using the remote desktop viewer to vnc into another machine and the display isnt updating locally, but it updates fine on the remote address
[23:46] <dasen> it's the new version of ubuntu coming on april next year (isn't that the name?)
[23:46] <Mint> okay
[23:46] <Sonic132> Indirection? It's the same as using tinyurl. It gets you to the same place.
[23:46] <jparks> bazhang: what do you mean it's not a meta package? i thought tasksel was used to install meta packages?
[23:46] <kingb> is ubuntu or opensuse the better laptop distro
[23:46] <bazhang> dasen, #ubuntu+1 for that
[23:46] <furi> can someone please help me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1616015 ? it has to do with booting problems.
[23:47] <Mint> u bot to u thx
[23:47] <rww> Sonic132: tinyurl isn't condescending or generally used here.
[23:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> Apologies if this topic has been brought up before, but the Windows program linked to for making bootable USB images on ubuntu.com tests positive for a virus "Rogue.Agent/Gen-Nullo[EXE]"
[23:47] <jparks> looking at the tasksel window (from command line) on ubuntu server 10.10 i'm given the following 3 kubuntu options to install... Kubuntu desktop, Kubuntu mobile, and Kubuntu netbook
[23:47] <BlueMatt> anyone gotten mysqlnd to compile from the ubuntu php packages
[23:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> the link can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[23:47] <Flannel> Sonic132: It's rude, that should be enough.  The whole "just google it" attitude is exceptionally rude, please refrain from it.
[23:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> and it likely a false positive
[23:47] <Sonic132> Whatever you say. I'll not use it rww.
[23:48] <rww> thanks :)
[23:48] <jc0694> does ubuntu come with default ftp/telnet support?
[23:48] <jparks> server or client?
[23:48] <BlueMatt> jc0694: yes use ftp and telnet commands
[23:48] <jc0694> client?
[23:48] <jparks> you can install either but it comes "default" with the client commands
[23:48] <jparks> yes, client, used to access the server
[23:48] <Linuxaddict> any suggestions how to solve or get rid of this error Glib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[23:48] <jc0694> hmmmmm... can't telnet to my machine... keeps saying connection refused.  just installed ubuntu
[23:49] <ZykoticK9> jc0694, avoid using telnet where possible, ssh is a secure replacement.
[23:49] <OerHeks> SeriouslyLaugh, how did you check it ?
[23:49] <rww> jc0694: the commandline "telnet" and "ftp" programs are installed by default on all Ubuntu versions. Additionally, the Ubuntu Desktop spin has Places -> Connect to server, which supports FTP.
[23:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> OerHeks: virustotal.com
[23:49] <aroman> How should I make a backup before upgrading to Maverick?
[23:49] <Sonic132> Flannel: I've been in here numerous times and people ask me well did you Google it first? That's generally the norm here. If your here. You've already tried Googling the problem and haven't had any resolution. Those that haven't even done the first step are making things more complicated for them and everyone trying to help them.
[23:50] <rww> ubottu: google
[23:50] <SeriouslyLaugh> SUPERAntiSpyware	<IP_ADDRESS>6	2010.11.12	Rogue.Agent/Gen-Nullo[EXE]
[23:50] <Flannel> Sonic132: No, "go google it" is not the norm here.  Google only works if you have some idea what you're looking for.
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> Sonic132, please drop the google issue - it isn't up for debate.  people don't say "google it" here, it's nice ;)
[23:50] <Vogg_win32> hello again ~ still having lots of problems with ubuntu 10.04 but i noticed this in ifconfig (there seems to be a lot of errors) : RX packets:2127 errors:419 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:419 - is it possible there is some problem with the NIC or driver ?
[23:50] <blackshirt> Linuxaddict: check permition your .profile on your home directory
[23:50] <tripelb> I want to capture a streaming video. Can someone help me (I have 10.04) please!!
[23:50] <jparks> it also generally only works when searching verbatim.. i'm looking for that search engine where i just press enter and it gives me what i want.. lookin forward to 2020
[23:50] <rww> Flannel: and if you're more adept at using it than a lot of non-technical people I know :(
[23:50] <jparks> google that is
[23:50] <omegatk> i would think most the time...if someone asks a question in here they have already tried to find it themselves via google or other sources
[23:51] <Sonic132> jparks: That would be nice. The search engine that reads your intentions not what you type.
[23:52] <jparks> alright let's get to it.. then we'll pull a Google and make a mobile phone OS
[23:52] <Sonic132> So anyone want to try helping me fix my grub/mbr problem listed at the end of this article http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Old+Ubuntu+Gnome+Theme ?
[23:52] <Sonic132> Sorry wrong link!
[23:52] <Sonic132> That was an accident.
[23:52] <tripelb> I have the google-fu but sometimes it's not enough fu for the job. Like now. I want to record a streaming video. Will someone please help.   Wont you join the dance!"
[23:53] <Sonic132> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 link here.
[23:53] <kingb> is there a reason I should dl 32 bit ubuntu instead of 64 bit
[23:53] <OerHeks> SeriouslyLaugh, sorry, but i believe your scan is not correct, i tested it on http://virusscan.jotti.org/ = clean
[23:54] <Sonic132> Also, I followed a couple guides and they all end in dead ends.
[23:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok thanks OerHeks -- it's gotta be a false positive
[23:54] <Linuxaddict> brb rebooting
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> kingb: some 3rd parties still only support 32bit (like brother and canon)
[23:54] <OerHeks> SeriouslyLaugh, i hope so, maybe post to http://www.pendrivelinux.com ?
[23:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> perhaps i will, thanks OerHeks
[23:54] <DJZee> taking off dudes
[23:55] <Sonic132> Help a brother out. I want to get back to Legend of Zelda with my PS3 controller. So I need Ubuntu to work again. Took a lot of work to get it to work with everything. I don't want to start over.
[23:55] <tripelb> I asked the same  questions yesterday a couple of widelyspaced times. (tear falls) And talked at length to someone from another chatroom but he did not know. and so I return.  --- I want to record a streaming video. ----- If I look at source there are two .fld files played. So far so good. Now what?   (I use Ubuntu 10.04)  ---  !!
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> kingb: also if you have less tat 3Gb ram and dont intend to do much CPU intensive stuff then 32bit is fine
[23:56] <ctmjr> tripelb, vlc will do that also mplayer/mencoder
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> kingb, if this is the first time you are trying ubuntu, use the 32 bit version (easier, less issues to solve.  only use 64bit if you have 4+GB memory.  check out the script "getlibs" search on UbuntuForum if you need to install any 32bit libraries.  i like my 64 ;)
[23:56] <CalJohn> Sonic132: you need to give a quesiton at least 10 minutes before you get antsy :)  It takes time to read things
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: could use recordmydesktop
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> 32bit ubuntu with PAE kernel can access 64Gb RAM
[23:57] <Sonic132> CalJohn: OK. I can't see if anyone is giving my issue any thought as this is a chat room. But thanks for letting me know.
[23:57] <aeon-ltd> Sonic132: wait on a ps3? you'd trade psn access for snes/nes/n64 emulators?
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, PAE is still a hack, no one application can use 4+GB
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> true i dislike it myself but its a thing :)
[23:58] <Sonic132> aeon-ltd: No...when Ubuntu was booting up. I had my Sixaxis controller set up and was playing Legend of Zelda on my laptop. It was awesome.
[23:59] <tripelb> I dont know how to get it to vlc. It plays in the browser ctmjr --- ActionParsnip oh, good idea. I didnt know. can I apt-get that or use a webpage to find it? (I prefer apt-get)
[23:59] <CalJohn> Sonic132: ok, so let's go through the situation you are in.  you have broken the master boot record on your machine, and you can boot neither OS, right?
[23:59] <jc0694> anybody know why when i try and telnet to my ubuntu machine it says "connection refused".  just installed ubuntu and haven't messed with any settings
[23:59] <cast> jc0694: you're not running telnetd