[00:00] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: one more question. I already have support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards disabled. I should keep it that way right?
[00:00] <tkstka> Adapt installer
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: any kde apps will be ripped out. its all the same, ktorrent (for example) is still called ktorrent in kde3 as well as kde4 , its all the same name so it applies to all kde's
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: sure
[00:01] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ok..
[00:01] <BluesKaj> tk
[00:02] <BluesKaj> ops
[00:02] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: and if kde3 apps are ported to kde4 they get the same name and will be upgraded..
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: yep
[00:02] <jontec> my monitor is being detected with a maximum resolution of 800x600 how can I increase the maximum? I've used xrandr, but I get an error "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed" after adding the mode
[00:03] <BluesKaj> tkstka, are you on 8.10 ?
[00:03] <tkstka> 7.04
[00:03] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to use the advanced settings for kdesktop
[00:03] <BluesKaj> tkstka, aha , ok that's duifferent
[00:03] <tkstka> only linux cd I had besided ubuntu.. but it didnt work for somereason
[00:04] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: the good thing is, if now will a package removed that is used bye any app, i can reinstall it..
[00:04] <tkstka> so how do I update this thing to 8.1
[00:04] <tkstka> what do I need to know?
[00:04] <jabrroa> if i have installed kubuntu and    installed codecs and programs i want can i take the HDD files and burn an iso?
[00:05] <tkstka> is there new important updates I need to do?
[00:05] <BluesKaj> !upgrade 7.04
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: absolutely, just apt-get install it as normal
[00:06] <jabrroa> if i have installed kubuntu and    installed codecs and programs i want can i take the HDD files and burn an iso?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: did you md5 the cd?
[00:06] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ;).. restarting.. an check if all is running ;)
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[00:06] <BluesKaj> tkstka, the best thing is to DL the 8.10 live cd and install from there .  Isnt there a way to for me to download some upgrade back.. I dont have cd's or rw
[00:08] <jabrroa> if i have installed kubuntu and    installed codecs and programs i want can i take the HDD files and burn an iso?
[00:08] <tkstka> BluesKaj I was reading this
[00:08] <tkstka> http://english.kalingasblog.com/2008/04/26/how-to-upgrade-kubuntu-710-to-kubuntu-804/
[00:08] <szrhawaii> does anyone know how to fill this out properly http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c198/szrhawaii/?action=view&current=snapshot1-1.png
[00:09] <tkstka> but I dont have the same menu in adp
[00:09] <KrispyKreme> ActionParsnip: It didn't work
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme: ndiswrapper for you
[00:10] <tkstka> so is there a way to update this to 7.09 to 7.10
[00:10] <tkstka> so I can update it to 8.**
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | tkstka
[00:10] <KrispyKreme> ohhh. Now I have to get ndiswrapper right?
[00:10] <tkstka> is kubuntu basicly same as ubuntu
[00:11] <armitage> hey guys
[00:11] <armitage> i'
[00:11] <_gtt_> i need some help
[00:11] <tkstka> armita was a good movie
[00:11] <jontec> how can I configure the screen resolution outside of KDE System Settings
[00:11] <tkstka> I loved them
[00:12] <tkstka> armitage was a good movie
[00:12] <tkstka> :)
[00:12] <_gtt_> every time launch konqueror (kde4) hardy heron, i get a SIGSVdsfsfdasdf
[00:12] <JontheEchidna> jontec: krandrtray?
[00:12] <_gtt_> :(
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme: yep, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme: you need the win xp32 or win xp64 driver for the device
[00:13] <aanderse> hey if anyone here presses ctrl+shift+w in konsole, does it make your kopete go to "away" status instead of closing you konsole tab?
[00:13] <aanderse> and when i say konsole, i think i mean any app which has tabs
[00:14] <jontec> JontheEchidna: okay, I'm assuming that this has something to do with xrandr and I've tried that... I get a xrandr: "Configure crtc 0 failed" when attempting to change my resolution from 800x600 (autodetect max) to the actual maxiumum, 1024x768 (I have already added the mode)
[00:14] <_gtt_> aanderse: dont hold down shift.
[00:14] <aanderse> ctrl+w does nothing
[00:15] <aanderse> (they shortcut says ctrl+shift+w)
[00:15] <_gtt_> oh yeah
[00:15] <jontec> JontheEchidna: I can select it from within the tray app, but it does nothing, so I'm assuming it's the same problem
[00:15] <_gtt_> doh, my bad
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> aanderse: i use yakuake instead
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> jontec: yeah, they both use xrandr
[00:15] <aanderse> the same behaviour occurs in dolphin
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> aanderse: you may be able to change the shortcut in keyboard settings
[00:15] <aanderse> well, i'm mostly asking if someone can replicate this
[00:16] <aanderse> if so, it's a bug
[00:16] <jontec> JontheEchidna: and since xorg.conf is no longer operable, are there any alternatives?
[00:16] <_gtt_> it closes my tabs properly
[00:16] <aanderse> k, so it's possible this is a me bug :p
[00:16] <aanderse> thanks
[00:16] <JontheEchidna> file a bug about X not autodetecting your monitor's max res properly I guess
[00:16] <JontheEchidna> that's what I did
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> aanderse: I wouldnt say it was, its a mixed settings in keyboard shortcuts probably
[00:16] <jontec> JontheEchidna: what # was your bug?
[00:16] <jontec> or, rather, do you have a link?
[00:17] <JontheEchidna> jontec: unless you have a Compaq 7500 monitor and nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 I think you'd better file a separate bug
[00:17] <xp-killer> im looking for a video converter for kubuntu
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: ffmpeg and mencoder are your friends
[00:17]  * JontheEchidna had an old xorg.conf lying around which he is using atm
[00:18] <jontec> JontheEchidna: I was just curious about the solution
[00:18] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: lol tanks
[00:18] <JontheEchidna> jontec: it hasn't been fixed yet; I'm using an old xorg.conf file that has the resolutions defined
[00:18] <Schuenemann> Hey, what kubuntu version should I choose for a core 2 duo? I selected 64bit AMD and Intel computers, but the ISO name is kubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso. Is this correct?
[00:19] <tkstka> So there is no way to update this 7.04 to any newer version... All the instructions I find talk about buttons to press in adept manager but there are no buttons there
[00:20] <tkstka> with those names
[00:20] <tkstka> just huge sums of different programs I can install
[00:24] <xp-killer> tkstka: clic on fetch updates then clic on full upgrade
[00:24] <tkstka> xp-killer there is no option like that in 7.04 as far as I can see
[00:25] <tkstka> I hear everywhere I find that I need to get some new cd.. or something
[00:25] <tkstka> I dont have cd or rw to burn new cd's
[00:25] <xp-killer> then update it online from adept
[00:27] <tkstka> well I said it dont have options like that.. It has a huge list of programs I can update but no full system update
[00:27] <tkstka> ...
[00:27] <xp-killer> tkstka: on top u dont see fetch updates?
[00:28] <tkstka> no
[00:28] <tkstka> I've lookd everywhere
[00:28] <tkstka> I can take a screenshot if you like
[00:29] <szrhawaii_> #compiz-fusion
[00:29] <tkstka> is there anyway to update by using commands?
[00:31] <szrhawaii_> anyone know how to turn of the drawing for kdesktop
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: kdesudo kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: change Prompt=LTS to Prompt=normal
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: save and exit
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: go watch tv or have a shower
[00:35] <szrhawaii_> anyone know how to make ccsm the main drawer for my background and be able to turn of the kdesktop
[00:36] <tkstka> ActionParsnip thx.. but that kdesudo seems to be wrong it doesnt work
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: sudo nano  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: edit the line, press ctrl+x, then y, then enter
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you need to edit  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades as sudo
[00:39] <casefinanzait> ciao
[00:39] <xp-killer> i need a p2p for kubunyu,somethin like limewire ,ares or edonkey
[00:39] <LjjjL> !it | casefinanzait
[00:39] <xp-killer> kubuntu*
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> !gnutella | xp-killer
[00:40] <LjjjL> !p2p | xp-killer
[00:40] <casefinanzait> ok thanks
[00:48] <tkstka> so nothing happend
[00:49] <tkstka> ActionParsnip I did like you said I opened it with nano and there and typed change Prompt=LTS to Prompt=normal and saved and nothing happend
[00:49] <tkstka> adpt didnt open first
[00:49] <tkstka> but after I tried second time it did and it was all back to like it was before
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: you need to run the next command if you are now back to the prompt
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:56] <tkstka> ActionParsnip thanks verymuch and all who helped me :)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: is it doing its thing now?
[00:58] <tkstka> ActionParsnip yes
[00:58] <tkstka> downloading 35 min
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: uber, you will want to keep the current conf files as it will offer stock blank ones when the upgrade is nearly done
[00:59] <tkstka> ok I will keep that in mind
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> tkstka: its stuff like smb.conf which you will want to keep yuor own (for example)
[01:01] <xp-killer> i need a video streamer downloader
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: is it flash or is it an avi / mpeg?
[01:13] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: flash like youtube videos
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: theres a plugin for firefox to help yuo download flash videos
[01:23] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: u know how i can install it?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php
[01:30] <dr_willis> Theres lots of  download helper extensions :)
[01:50] <mrksbrd> dr_willis: u here
[01:52] <dr_willis> Yep.. In and out all night
[01:52] <dr_willis> :) watching the grandkids
[01:52] <mrksbrd> lol....good luck
[01:52] <mrksbrd> just a quick ?
[01:53] <mrksbrd> i know this isn't the right channel but here it is, ........trying to install the latest gimp version thru deb files
[01:53] <mrksbrd> & keep getting dependency errors
[01:53] <mrksbrd> I try to install what it says it is missing but still no luck
[01:53] <mrksbrd> any ideas
[01:55] <dr_willis> Where are the packages comming from?
[01:55] <mrksbrd> http://www.getdeb.net/
[01:56] <mrksbrd> downloaded 3 files.....1 works
[01:56] <mrksbrd> other 2 giving me the errors
[01:58] <arrrghhh> anyone running projectM in kubuntu?
[01:59] <mrksbrd> arrrghhh: not I....... sorry
[01:59] <arrrghhh> i found instructions to use projectM with pulseaudio... but kde doesn't use pulse i would assume.
[02:02] <mrksbrd> says pulse will run on linux
[02:02] <arrrghhh> ...
[02:02] <mrksbrd> http://www.pulseaudio.org/
[02:03] <mrksbrd> just have to compile it
[02:03] <astromme_> woah, no. You can still install pulse in kubuntu
[02:03] <astromme_> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[02:04] <astromme_> In 8.10 I have a choice of a gstreamer or xine backend for kde
[02:04] <emma> I don't suggest you do, however, it gives people a lot of headaches.
[02:04] <mrksbrd> never used it so I don't know how it will act
[02:04] <astromme_> So if projectM will work with either of those, I would suggest trying that first
[02:05] <mrksbrd> dr_willis: any luck yet?
[02:06] <arrrghhh> projectM has a QT implementation i think
[02:06] <arrrghhh> i just haven't found anything online on how to use it!
[02:06] <arrrghhh> there's a thread for using it with pulse and hardy
[02:09] <mrksbrd> did anyone ever figure out how to remove kde 4 apps listings in kmenu when running under 3.5
[02:09] <genii> Probably similar
[02:09] <mrksbrd> hey genii.....long time no see
[02:09] <genii> mrksbrd: I would think to have a ~/.kde3 and a ~/.kde4
[02:09]  * genii hands mrksbrd a coffee
[02:10] <mrksbrd> me welcomes it with open arms
[02:10]  * mrksbrd welcomes it with open arms
[02:10] <arrrghhh> libvisual-projectm - anyone know about this package?  it's in the repo's.
[02:11] <genii> !info libvisual-projectm
[02:11] <genii> Hmm, could ubottu be more vague? ;)
[02:11] <arrrghhh> lol he could tell us something that's not even related to the package i guess.
[02:11] <arrrghhh> have you heard of milkdrop?
[02:12] <dr_willis>   !find milkdrop
[02:12] <dr_willis> Grandkids drops lots of milk
[02:12] <arrrghhh> i have been missing hardly anything from winblows.  the only thing i really have been missing is a good visualzation... and projectM is "compatible with milkdrop's presets"
[02:13] <mrksbrd> genii: any ideas why gimp deb files are giving me dependency errors?.......libgimp2.0 gives me errors that libgtk2.0-0 doesn't meet requirements, but that is latest I can find
[02:13] <arrrghhh> milkdrop is hands down (imho obviously) the best for visualizations.
[02:13] <mrksbrd> lol @ dr.....oooooopppppssssssssss
[02:13] <genii> from http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sound/libvisual-projectm       :projectM is an iterative music visualization library which uses OpenGL for hardware acceleration. It is compatible with Milkdrop presets. This package contains a module for libvisual enabling support for projectM.
[02:13] <genii> Although what libvisual is, no idea
[02:14] <arrrghhh> i'd love to get this working with songbird
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: amarok uses libvisual for its visualizations
[02:14] <arrrghhh> the new rc3 is pretty solid, now just needs some good addons... ie visualizations
[02:14] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Ah, nice
[02:14] <arrrghhh> Daisuke_Ido, do you know anything about the qt implementation of projectM?
[02:14] <oscc2007> hia all, i need help on kubuntu software
[02:15] <mrksbrd> ask away
[02:15] <oscc2007> r d developers around?
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> arrrghhh: no idea, but with libvisual-projectm installed, you should be able to use it with amarok no problem
[02:15] <oscc2007> the openoffice version on 8.10, is it from Sun or the one from Go-oo?
[02:16] <arrrghhh> oscc2007, sun has a hand in ooo...
[02:16] <arrrghhh> Daisuke_Ido, hrm... ok.  i was hopin to get it working with songbird, but i'm sure most people won't be interested in that project until it's 1.0 at least.
[02:17] <jontec> I am trying to figure out the problem with xrandr on 8.10... using the command "xrandr --output default --mode "1024x768_60.00"" I am returned "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed"
[02:17] <mrksbrd> jontec: what card do u have?
[02:18] <jontec> krandrtray keeps talking about crtc 113 on the command line, so I don't know which crtc is correct... it cannot find the monitor with --crtc 113, and my screen flickers with 113
[02:18] <astromme_> arrghhh: you probably can't use it with amarok2 though. only 1.4
[02:18] <oscc2007> jontec: when you typr xrandr, do you see the currently used settings?
[02:18] <jontec> oscc2007: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82) ?
[02:18] <jontec> oscc2007: yes
[02:19] <jontec> oscc2007: the output is default (this is a fresh install of 8.10, unfortunately)
[02:19] <jontec> "default", rather
[02:19] <oscc2007> arrrghhh: yes, but i am trying to track down if kubuntu is using the go-oo
[02:19] <oscc2007> jontec: type xrandr, the default should show something like
[02:20] <oscc2007> 1024x768       60.0*+   50.0
[02:20] <genii> I think the xrandr problem might be this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6140049
[02:21] <jontec> oscc2007: it does, but it has 800x600 selected, I had to manually add the 1024x768 mode and this is the mode I'm trying to get working
[02:22] <jontec> oscc2007: 800x600 leaves a huge border between the screen and the actual viewable area of the monitor
[02:22] <juanantonio_> I only get 800*600 in K 8.04
[02:23] <oscc2007> ohh...thats normal...we use that to put other progs out of the view area.
[02:23] <oscc2007> so other screen can only see the viewable area.
[02:24] <mrksbrd> juanantonio: have u run any updates yet?
[02:24] <Guest17178> test
[02:25] <genii> !test | maxim_
[02:25] <pm2> Hello - I just install intrepid, and have KDE4 installed.  I'm noticing that every few seconds, it seems like a couple windows or something flash on the screen just for an instant.  Is there anyway to make that stop?
[02:25] <juanantonio_> Yes, I have tried everything to solve this, but no way
[02:26] <oscc2007>  can u see the 1024 resolution? even if it flickers
[02:26] <jontec> oscc2007: there is no "other" screen? This is a tablet PC (if that matters), and the monitor I'm referring to is the one physcially attached
[02:26] <pm2> or, failing that, just get back to kde3
[02:26] <pm2> ?
[02:26] <oscc2007> ic...
[02:27] <jontec> genii, oscc2007: the solution of that article is to install nvidia drivers?
[02:27] <mrksbrd> juanantonio: kmenu......system.....device manager......is your card listed & checked?
[02:27] <genii> jontec: If the issue is related to the nvidia driver in question
[02:28] <genii> jontec: There is also a launchpad bug report regarding radeon HD driver to same effect
[02:28] <juanantonio_> mrk, no problem, I have tried a lot of things and I am really discouraged about this problem having a real solution. My card i an on-board GeForce 7100
[02:28] <jontec> genii: I don't believe that this computer has an nvidia card
[02:28] <mrksbrd> pm2: 8.10 still has a few video bugs, you may be expieriencing one of them with your video card
[02:29] <dr_willis> Yep - i agree mrksbrd
[02:29] <dr_willis> I belive the 7100 has had issues for a while now..
[02:29] <jontec> genii: the thing is... all of the shells use to full area of the monitor, it's just X/KDE that doesn't
[02:29] <pm2> So it would be best to revert to KDE 3... is it easy to do that?
[02:29] <jontec> the*
[02:30] <dr_willis> kde3 unofficial repos for 8.10 are in the works i hear..
[02:32] <pm2> great... release buggy software, and don't make it reasonably easy to install non-buggy software
[02:32] <juanantonio_> What did you say about 7100 issues? Problems soultions?
[02:33] <dr_willis> Theres a few specific # nvidia cards that i recall seeing people   in here with problems.. 6500 and 7xxx spring to mind. I would check the forums for your exact card.
[02:33] <genii> jontec: I'm pretty sure the "x" part of xrandr means Xorg ;)
[02:33] <dr_willis> Its possible you need to use some specific version of the nvidia drivers
[02:33] <mrksbrd> pm2: have you tried installing the driver via "envy"
[02:33] <dr_willis> !envyng
[02:34] <juanantonio_> I will see about it, because it is some day ago that I cannot get solutions
[02:35] <Ashex> I just wanted to announce that Noaton is the most useless player ever
[02:35] <Ashex> noatun*
[02:35] <Ashex> Has yet to play a video successfully for me
[02:36] <mrksbrd> vlc player
[02:36] <tboxmy> vlc
[02:36] <dr_willis> !info noatun
[02:37] <mrksbrd> juanantonio: try this....... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495008
[02:37] <genii> !info noatun hardy
[02:38] <mrksbrd> genii: coffee is not working dude....lol
[02:38] <tboxmy> i havent met ubuntu ppl who actually depend on noatun
[02:38] <tboxmy> its always been vlc
[02:38] <binMonkey> agggkkkk!  can anyone help me with port forwarding and vuze?  vuze says i'm behing a firewall when i've opend ports in ufw, forwarded ports on my dsl modem and my router.
[02:38] <dr_willis> vlc or mplayer here for my needs
[02:39] <dr_willis> even under windows..
[02:39] <mrksbrd> here here.....except for the windows part....lol
[02:39] <mrksbrd> how dare u
[02:40] <genii> binMonkey: You need to find someone who knows about ufw
[02:40] <dr_willis> or perhaps vuze wants some specific ports you missed
[02:40] <juanantonio_> Thanks, mrk, I will try tomorrow and tell you, in Spain it's almost 4...really late!!
[02:41] <mrksbrd> np
[02:41] <Ashex> only reason i gripe about noatun is because it decided that it would be the default player for all my media
[02:41] <genii> binMonkey: There seems a comprehensive tutorial on ufw here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw
[02:41] <tboxmy> Ashex: they need to review that decision
[02:42] <tboxmy> wow, my parents will be there in spain this dec
[02:42] <Ashex> tboxmy, just a tad
[02:42] <mrksbrd> binmonkey: what router & dsl modem u using?
[02:42] <binMonkey> genii: thanks.  i know ufw is ok.  i've spent about 2 hours going over that tutorial.  the problem is in my modem or router, i think.
[02:43] <binMonkey> mrksbrd: the router is a linksys wrt54gl and and actiontec modem.
[02:43] <mrksbrd> what isp?
[02:44] <mrksbrd> nm i see it
[02:44] <binMonkey> qwest.  before i put in the router it worked like a charm.
[02:44] <genii> binMonkey: The Vuze help page says that it is just a new version of Azureus, which is a bittorrent protocol. So you need to forward the torrent port ranges
[02:44] <dr_willis> see if you can set up a DMZ on the router.. so everything from that machine gets forwarded. as a test.. perhaps./
[02:44] <genii> binMonkey: Which port ranges have you forwarded?
[02:44] <KrispyKreme_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html. this only provides a README in the folder. where is the most current one?
[02:44] <mrksbrd> you were sucessful in getting into the router config screen right?
[02:45] <binMonkey> dr_willis: i've seen the dmz setting.  but i really don't know what it is.  i'll try it.
[02:45] <binMonkey> genii: i forwarded 10001 - 10015.
[02:45] <mrksbrd> dmz will open all ports
[02:45] <mrksbrd> incoming & outgoing....it's like not having any firewall
[02:45] <binMonkey> mrksbrd: yikes.  i'll try it, just to see.
[02:46] <mrksbrd> temp use iss ok but wouldn't suggest leaving it like that
[02:46] <binMonkey> hold on, guys.  and thanks for the help.
[02:46] <KrispyKreme_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html. this only provides a README in the folder. where is the most current one?
[02:46] <setuid_w00t> I'm having problems gettting my microphone to work under Kubuntu.  I have my headset plugged into the front of my computer.  I can hear audio, but I can't seem to record anything.  The microphone works correctly under Windows.
[02:46] <genii> binMonkey: Bittorrent clients normally want instead 6881-6889
[02:47] <binMonkey> genii: i tried those when i first started torrents but they didn't work.  i don't know where i got that 10... range, but it worked.
[02:48] <dr_willis> some specific clients may want those for somthing.. but that  range does not sound familer to me...
[02:48] <mrksbrd> binMonkey: vuse uses 30394....tcp & udp.....need to set each one in router
[02:48] <courtjesterg> ok i found it add the .pvl extensions that usually would open in windows and run from your browser. I downloaded wine and downloaded winetricks some i didn't install any downloaded the firefox in winetricks thinking i should them be able to play this game it ask me the same question where to run aand save even if i open it with the browser it just loops back to the save file link
[02:49] <courtjesterg> i looked this up
[02:49] <courtjesterg> http://www.sharpened.net/helpcenter/file_extension.php?pvl
[02:49]  * dr_willis has no idea what a .plv even is
[02:49] <courtjesterg> i guess i need this Windows:	HPI Instalit
[02:50] <courtjesterg> usually it opens or runs when click it on it
[02:50] <genii> binMonkey: Your router probably uses NAT
[02:50] <binMonkey> mrksbrd: where did you find that?  i thought i'd been all over the vuze help pages.
[02:50] <mrksbrd> under tools.....options
[02:50] <courtjesterg> .pvl
[02:50] <mrksbrd> u can change the port to what ever u need/would like
[02:51] <binMonkey> mrksbrd: :(  i'm an idiot.
[02:51] <mrksbrd> simple error.....no ? is ever to silly
[02:52] <juanantonio_> Mrk, in this page says Ubuntu, do you think it is the same with Kubuntu?
[02:52] <mrksbrd> just glad I can help....hehehe
[02:52] <mrksbrd> kubuntu is ubuntu
[02:52] <mrksbrd> ubuntu is base system with KDE installed
[02:53] <juanantonio_> Ok, I know it...but I mean, are you sure it will work?
[02:53] <mrksbrd> yup
[02:53] <juanantonio_> Ok, I am tempted to try
[02:55] <mrksbrd> what do u have to loose....still having a shi**y resolution
[02:55] <mrksbrd> hehehe
[02:56] <mrksbrd> juanantonio....you could also try installing it via "envy"
[02:57] <binMonkey> when i set port forwarding on the dsl modem should i set the ip address as the address from the router, <IP_ADDRESS>, or the add from the modem, <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:58] <mrksbrd> router should set ip it needs to contact router by itself via dhcp....don't mess with that
[02:58] <mrksbrd> we won't see u here anymore
[02:58] <mrksbrd> everything will be done thru port forwarding
[02:58] <mrksbrd> don't adjust any other settings
[02:59] <binMonkey> mrksbrd: no i mean the add of the machine that i'm forwarding to.
[02:59] <binMonkey> mrksbrd: should that be the original <IP_ADDRESS> or the new <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:59] <zer0o> hi guys, does anyone use skype? while searching for ppl how do i avoid to get all this "sex-seller-contacts" ? is there a way?
[03:00] <mrksbrd> ummmm
[03:01] <mrksbrd> i believe the 102 address name server should take care of the rest
[03:01] <binMonkey> ok.  i'm going to save and restart.  wish me luck.
[03:01]  * mrksbrd crosses his fingers
[03:03] <juanantonio_> I can't believe it, I type what appears in the link you gave me or I try to install through Adept and gives me "Broken packages"
[03:03] <mrksbrd> lol....dreaded broken packages error
[03:04] <mrksbrd> run sudo apt-get update thru terminal
[03:04] <juanantonio_> What is that?
[03:04] <juanantonio_> Ok
[03:04] <juanantonio_> Console or run from KMenu?
[03:05] <mrksbrd> konsole
[03:05] <juanantonio_> Ok
[03:05] <mrksbrd> close adept first though
[03:06] <juanantonio_> I closed it, but I didn't know, hehehe
[03:07] <juanantonio_> It stopped in 23%
[03:07] <juanantonio_> No, sorr, just finished
[03:08] <loganWHD> anyone find a solution to the mic issues with 8.10
[03:08] <juanantonio_> Should I make another try?
[03:08] <mrksbrd> down by the time ....did a red triangle show up?
[03:09] <loganWHD> mrksbrd:  you asking me?
[03:09] <juanantonio_> No, it did not
[03:09] <mrksbrd> no juan....sorry
[03:10] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, sometimes using the ''broken packages" option in Synaptic can repair the the broken dependencies
[03:11] <BluesKaj> err "fix broken packages"
[03:11] <ellipsis_> is there any way to align my widgets?
[03:11] <juanantonio_> Synaptic? What is that? I don't think I have this
[03:12] <loganWHD> anyone have thoughts with the sound thing?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> Synaptic is a package manager like Adept , except it's more thorough , ...it's a gnome package manager but works well in kde too
[03:13] <mrksbrd> juan get synaptic thru add/remove progs
[03:13] <juanantonio_> Ok
[03:14] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, you can find the fix broken packages option in the 'edit ' option
[03:14] <ellipsis_> is there any way to align my widgets to a grid?
[03:15] <mrksbrd> BluesKaj: could u take over from here with him....he's trying to get his gforce 7100 card working, but now getting these other errors
[03:15] <juanantonio_> Blueskaj: In Synaptic?
[03:15] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, yes , in synaptic
[03:16] <juanantonio_> It's still waiting for the headers
[03:16] <BluesKaj> mrksbrd, I'll try ...gforce 700, that's nvidia , right ?
[03:16] <mrksbrd> yes
[03:16] <BluesKaj> err 7100
[03:16] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:17] <dreamhacker> i am new to this ubuntu thing
[03:17] <juanantonio_> Yes, Nvidia GeForce 7100 on-board VGA, chipset 630i with Q6600
[03:17] <dreamhacker> i need help in forcing an ntfs drive
[03:17] <mrksbrd> was going to try envy with him
[03:17] <BluesKaj> !envy | juanantonio_
[03:17] <juanantonio_> I can't believe it, man
[03:18] <mrksbrd> i have to get up early tomorrow so I'm going to bed ......g-night all
[03:18] <BluesKaj> nite mrksbrd
[03:18] <juanantonio_> Adept returned me an error of debugging
[03:19] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, after trying to install synaptic ?
[03:20] <juanantonio_> One second
[03:21] <juanantonio_> Ok. I am in Synaptic
[03:21] <juanantonio_> What must I do? Search for EnvyNGQT and Fix broken packages?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, click on edit
[03:22] <BluesKaj> then if the apply button is highlighted , click on it
[03:23] <binMonkey> ding dang.  dmz didn't work.  none of the port forwards work.  when i put in the router should i have changed any settings in the modem?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, don't try envy quite yet , trying to use it may make things worse if you have dependency problems
[03:26] <juanantonio_> Ok, I am refreshing packages and then I try to Edit Envy and Apply
[03:26] <loganWHD> anyone find a solution to the mic issues with 8.10
[03:27] <juanantonio_> No, when I mark Edit, Apply is not highlighted
[03:27] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:33] <juanantonio_> Blue, what should I try?
[03:34] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, search synaptic for nvidia and look for the driver that fits your card.
[03:35] <tboxmy> my laptop mic works fine.
[03:35] <tboxmy> though volume was mute initally.
[03:35] <setuid_w00t> loganWHD: which issues are you talking about?
[03:35] <juanantonio_> I have seen in Synaptic that Envy NG QT need KDE 4
[03:35] <loganWHD> i can't get the mic to work at all in skype lets say
[03:36] <jussi01> loganWHD: you have selected the corredt mic in skypes options?
[03:37] <dr_willis> !skype
[03:37] <dr_willis> skype is rather odd.. in many ways.. :) i recall..
[03:37] <loganWHD> ahhh
[03:37] <loganWHD> ok
[03:38] <juanantonio_> Blue, so I search Nvidia in Synaptic?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, which kubuntu version are you using
[03:39] <loganWHD> thanks
[03:39] <jussi01> loganWHD: is it working now?
[03:39] <loganWHD> well i have to go try it
[03:39] <loganWHD> hehe
[03:39] <juanantonio_> Blue, 8.04 64 bits
[03:39] <loganWHD> brb
[03:42] <loganWHD> E: Couldn't find package vsound
[03:42] <loganWHD> so the first line
[03:42] <BluesKaj> 8.04 shouldn't present any probs for your graphics card , juanantonio_...just search the properties on the nvidia drivers listed and find the one that fits
[03:42] <loganWHD> nada
[03:42] <BluesKaj> listed in synaptic, that is
[03:44] <dr_willis> 32bit may  have more compatability.. i never used 8.04 64bit.. so cant confirm if  its better/worse then 32bit
[03:44] <juanantonio_> But seemingly it is no problem, man. I have installed 1 week ago
[03:44] <juanantonio_> 'nvidia-glx-new'
[03:44] <loganWHD> hrmmm
[03:45] <ga11ius> anyone know how to disable the touchpad on my laptop? (im using 8.04 and KDE3)
[03:47] <loganWHD> nah that is for an older version of kubuntu
[03:47] <loganWHD> lots not working
[03:48] <juanantonio_> Binary drivers and not development files, is that right?
[03:49] <loganWHD> sound worked in previous editions... i guess using a softphone in 8.10 isnt an option
[03:50] <binMonkey> genii, dr willis, i got it working.  thanks for the help.
[03:54] <dr_willis> Yea!
[03:55] <BluesKaj> juanantonio_, install the nvidia-glx-177 , it supports the GeForce 7100 GS
[03:55] <dr_willis> err.. got what working? :)
[03:55] <juanantonio_> Uhu. From Synaptic?
[03:56] <loganWHD> anyone have a tut to get mics working in 8.10?
[03:56] <binMonkey> dr_willis: my vuze and the port forwarding.
[03:56] <dr_willis> binMonkey,  :)
[03:57] <dr_willis> Oh that.. heh
[03:57] <binMonkey> now.  i have to go back and close up everything that i opened.  0_0
[03:57] <loganWHD> that first line of code... has a few errors for 8.10
[03:58] <loganWHD> like vox, sound, etc cant be found
[04:03] <juanantonio_> Blues, 177.82 from Nvidia?
[04:06] <juanantonio_> I return tomorrow. Good night
[04:07] <loganWHD> shhez that was for how to record with skype
[04:07] <teh_leetzor> how come my desktop cube wont work
[04:07] <loganWHD> not get the mic working for normal conversations
[04:07] <dr_willis> !skype
[04:07] <loganWHD> i dont want to know how to record on skype
[04:07] <loganWHD> and i ave skype installed
[04:08] <loganWHD> the mic doesnt work for normal convo's
[04:08] <dr_willis> that first url may have troubleshooting tips/guides/links...
[04:08] <setuid_w00t> loganWHD: do you have capture enabled?
[04:09] <setuid_w00t> in the alsa device
[04:10] <loganWHD> hrm i am not sure setuid_w00t
[04:10] <loganWHD> tell me how to check please and i will
[04:11] <setuid_w00t> loganWHD: open a termina, run alsamixer, press F4 to select capture devices
[04:12] <loganWHD> ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[04:12] <loganWHD> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused
[04:12] <setuid_w00t> hmm
[04:12] <loganWHD> si hmmm
[04:13] <setuid_w00t> I'm no expert, but I was solving my own microphone issues a few minutes ago.  I think you must have a different problem though
[04:13] <loganWHD> well maybe another day i can beg for help to fix this
[04:13] <setuid_w00t> cat /proc/asound/devices
[04:14] <setuid_w00t> Does that show some audio devices?
[04:14] <loganWHD> 3 digital audio
[04:14] <loganWHD> 2 playback
[04:14] <loganWHD> 1 capture
[04:14] <loganWHD> capture is set to 0- 0
[04:15] <setuid_w00t> I have something similar  :-/
[04:16] <loganWHD> well too tired tonight
[04:16] <loganWHD> so we will come back another day
[04:16] <loganWHD> thanks
[04:17] <loganWHD> for trying
[04:17] <setuid_w00t> good luck
[04:17] <loganWHD> 8.10 has been a few headaches away from going back to an earlier version
[04:24] <tboxmy> after changing my kmix...now no more sound
[04:25] <tboxmy> no more recording
[04:25] <tboxmy> die....going to reboot
[04:25] <tboxmy> seems that things just gotten bad on this laptop
[04:25] <tboxmy> pray reboot helps.
[04:26] <genii> Hm
[04:44] <GillesMM> hello how can I have xine with jackd support in kubuntu ?
[05:01] <Makuseru> How can i manually resize a programs window? When ever i run Ardour it is always to long to fit on the screen, but i can not grab the edge of it and compress it like i normally could with a program. Is there anything i can do to resize this?
[05:09] <Ashex> when is KDE 4.2 going to be pushed into the repos?
[05:12] <mr---t-> !release
[05:15] <jabrroa> anyone here have solaris??
[05:25] <GillesMM> how can I have the jack support on xine ? I need to recompile xine ?
[05:27] <Ch1ppy> Does anyone know when we can expect to see kde 4.2 beta 1 packages?
[05:40] <Makuseru> When ever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?
[05:43] <n3glv> hello, quick question
[05:44] <n3glv> I am trying 9.04alpha, and I can't remember how to enable commercial usa dvd movies
[05:44] <n3glv> playback
[05:44] <genii> Usually libcss2 from medibuntu
[05:45] <genii> Although I do not know if they will have yet a Jaunty repository
[05:45] <TeslaTony> I'm going to say it's the exact same process for 8.04 and 8.10, but change everything from hardy or gutsy over to jaunty
[05:46] <TeslaTony> If that doesn't work, ask around at #ubuntu+1
[05:49] <timboy> i'm having an issue getting it on my second monitor. I get some meta mode error in nvidia-settings... Here is xorg.conf: http://dpaste.com/94031/ anything wrong with it?
[05:50] <antonio_> Algun chavo que me pueda ayudar en español?
[05:51] <courtjesterg> it is to my understanding that kopete hasn't added the myspace protocal but pigen has is there a fix to add it to kopete or plugin or pissible to just take it out of pigen and use for kopete
[05:51] <TeslaTony> es | antonio_
[05:51] <courtjesterg> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/setup-myspace-im-with-pidgin.html
[05:51] <TeslaTony> !es | antonio_
[05:52] <antonio_> muchas gracias
[05:54] <courtjesterg> since kopete is source and good to develop wouldn't be hard to add myspace into it
[05:57] <courtjesterg> #kopete
[05:57] <kevin__> when i turn on my machine the display resets a few times and makes me start up in low graphics mode and gnome sessions are scrambled but kde is looks ok
[06:01] <shovi> how do i set firefox default browser?
[06:01] <courtjesterg> should be in edit pref
[06:01] <stdin> System Setting -> Default Applications
[06:01] <shovi> thanks
[06:02] <courtjesterg> i keep it uncheck asking me everytime it starts up usually this is default asking when ff starts
[06:15] <Makuseru> When ever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?
[06:16] <dwidmann> Makuseru: right click on the titlebar of the window, go to configure window behavior (or similar) ... under window specific settings you should be able to force a smaller size
[06:23] <courtjesterg> my mind is ticking to add myspace protocal to kopete
[06:23] <courtjesterg> should be simple if i can get the code
[06:26] <dwidmann> courtjesterg: good luck :)
[06:28] <Makuseru> dwidmann: it didnt make the horizontal any smaller
[06:28] <dwidmann> Makuseru: might have to restart the app
[06:29] <Makuseru> i did
[06:29] <Makuseru> i told it to "maximize vertical and horizontal"
[06:29] <Makuseru> and the vertical maximized, but the horizontal is still to big
[06:30] <dwidmann> Makuseru: specify the geometry instead
[06:30] <shovi> where is kate located?
[06:30] <shovi> in the filesystem
[06:30] <dwidmann> shovi: /usr/bin/
[06:34] <courtjesterg> see i am looking at this page
[06:34] <courtjesterg> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/setup-myspace-im-with-pidgin.html
[06:34] <courtjesterg> wget http://msimprpl.darkthoughts.net/msimprpl-0.16.tar.gz
[06:34] <courtjesterg> thats what i need to get
[06:35] <courtjesterg> but its dead
[06:35] <courtjesterg> that package has just the myspace protocal
[06:38] <dwidmann> hmmm, I wonder why I'm getting this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/19290
[06:39] <shovi> thankyou dwidmann
[06:39] <courtjesterg> think i have it
[06:56] <izzyb> I've just had kde melt down on me for no obviouse reason.  compiz keeps crashing and now my bar at the bottom has vanashed
[06:56] <izzyb> I tried restarting the xserver, but that didn't fix it
[06:56] <izzyb> I remember having this problem once before but don't recall how I fixed it :(
[07:00] <shovi> can Kate have tabbed windows?
[07:01] <shovi> or maybe i mean, whenever I open another document, i want it to open as a tab not a new window
[07:01] <dwidmann> shovi yes
[07:02] <dwidmann> shovi: run it as kate -u
[07:02] <shovi> can i run it as kate -u every time?
[07:03] <shovi> without typing it
[07:03] <dwidmann> shovi: umm, yeah, just edit its entry in the kmenu I guess
[07:04] <dwidmann> shovi: or for console purposes just make an alias for kate="kate -u"
[07:05] <shovi> well like I have php file on my desktop
[07:05] <shovi> and i have a kate -u open from terminal
[07:05] <shovi> but the php file opens in new window
[07:10] <courtjesterg> odd reading help in kopete it says this
[07:10] <courtjesterg> As well as the protocols named above, Kopete has support for several other protocols. In most cases, this is not enabled by default or an additional plugin must be installed. Meanwhile, SMS, Skype and SILC
[07:11] <courtjesterg> so the question where to enable or well i read but i don't think there is a plugin for skype on kopete
[07:13] <courtjesterg> me wonders if this is what the test bed is for hmm
[07:17] <ellipsis_> I'm using Ubuntu 8.1 and I just installed the kubuntu package to try out kde
[07:17] <ellipsis_> for some reason all tabs are being displayed weirdly
[07:17] <ellipsis_> including firefox
[07:18] <ellipsis_> the test on all tabs except the currently selected one is lower than it should be
[07:18] <ellipsis_> low enough that letters like g, p and y are actually being drawn past the bottom line of the tab
[07:22] <courtjesterg> well skype already has a linux version availble wher eyou can have your myspace account added
[07:24] <ellipsis_> this is a screenshot of the tab problem
[07:24] <ellipsis_> http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5862/weirdtabsscreenshothg7.png
[07:24] <ellipsis_> can anyone help?
[07:32] <jsunio> ellipsis_: Is that ubuntu you are using or kubuntu
[07:32] <ellipsis_> I installed ubuntu but then downloaded the kubuntu package
[07:32] <jsunio> ellipsis_: kubuntu or ubuntu with kde package?
[07:33] <ellipsis_> I went into synaptic
[07:33] <ellipsis_> and downloaded the kubuntu-desktop package
[07:33] <jsunio> Is that the standard way of morphing into kubuntu? Why not just install kubuntu?
[07:34] <ellipsis_> well
[07:34] <ellipsis_> I didn't know that I would hate the gnome desktop so much
[07:34] <ellipsis_> xD
[07:35] <ellipsis_> hm
[07:35] <ellipsis_> is there any way I can completely remove KDE and install again?
[07:35] <ellipsis_> I'd prefer not to do that
[07:35] <ellipsis_> but if that's the only way of fixing the problem...
[07:45] <panicfreek> anyone around?
[07:56] <jsunio> almost
[08:11] <Guest87503> am i online?
[08:13] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[08:14] <wizkoder> did anybody try gimp 2.6 already? is there a deb package somewhere?
[08:14] <Guest87503> wizkoder: hello
[08:22] <simi> hi, i am in kubuntu 8.10 and i can't to connect to yahoo with kopete nor pidgin, and i have no ideea why(is not the account, the firewall, the connection,i have the same problem in arch linux) it could be kde?
[08:26] <Guest87503> I've installed Martian drivers (i have winmodem) it works! i can, for example, download files via wget or open sites via elinks. But Konqueror doesn't work with this connection. Can smbd tell me why?
[08:27] <Daisuke_Ido> quick question - amarok 1.4.10, xine was unable to initialize any audio driver
[08:27] <Daisuke_Ido> it worked last night, and i haven't changed anything since then :\
[08:33] <Guest31881> hey
[08:33] <simi> hi, i am in kubuntu 8.10 and i can't to connect to yahoo with kopete nor pidgin, and i have no ideea why(is not the account, the firewall, the connection,i have the same problem in arch linux) it could be kde?
[08:33] <simi> please an ideea to troubleshout, i tried other IM too
[08:34] <Deiz> The system tray's fairly bloated in a stock install, especially on my laptop's 1024x768 screen.
[08:34] <Deiz> Is it possible to hide things such as removable media / power / volume?
[08:35] <simi> Deiz: you can remove what you do not want
[08:35] <faileas> Deiz: power, and removable media at least are widgets, so click on the squirly yin yang icon on the right and just adjust it to your liking
[08:36] <Deiz> I'll give that a shot.
[08:48] <jsunio> simi: maybe router is blocking that port?
[08:53] <Deiz> Hrm.
[08:53] <Deiz> Using the proprietary drivers manager, I'm apparently unable to download and activate drivers for my USB wireless NIC.
[08:54] <Deiz> Hitting Activate will merely turn the entry grey.
[08:59] <jsunio> I had trouble with USB wireless with Puppy. But when I switch to kubuntu it worked right off.
[09:00] <jsunio> It didnt need any drivers
[09:00] <Deiz> Appears I was wrong.
[09:00] <Deiz> It's actually my PCMCIA NIC that needs drivers; Broadcom chipset.
[09:00] <Deiz> The USB NIC is fine, with a Ralink chipset.
[09:02] <jsunio> I have never had to download NIC drivers either. -- How do you know you need drivers for it. Did it tell you?
[09:03] <chase> hey i got a question for the kde desktop widgets: i installed the cpu frequency monitor and i need the "ruby-cpufreq" package. tried synaptic and sudo apt-get and no avail. any suggestions?
[09:04] <Deiz> jsunio: Nah. It's just nonfunctional. Trying to activate it through the knetworkmanager GUI is useless
[09:04] <Deiz> iwconfig outputs an error that traces back to not having the appropriate driver.
[09:04] <jsunio> Is the hardware working? Is the green light on in back when you plug in the RJ-45?
[09:05] <jsunio> Deiz: Or you are using it for wireless or wired?
[09:05] <VistaUser> hey
[09:05] <Deiz> Both the PCMCIA and USB NICs are wireless, the former I bought with the laptop back in '03, the latter was salvaged from a friend.
[09:06] <Deiz> The PCMCIA NIC has WLAN and power LEDs, the latter is lit.
[09:06] <VistaUser> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.  what does this mean?
[09:06] <Deiz> So at least it gets power, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with software.
[09:06] <Deiz> Could just be that having PCMCIA support results in PCMCIA devices receiving power.
[09:07] <jsunio> deiz: using kubuntu?
[09:07] <Deiz> Yeah.
[09:07] <serenity> aloh
[09:07] <serenity> a
[09:07] <VistaUser> serenity u from hawaii
[09:08] <serenity> VistaUser: not really, but that is my standard "Hallo"  since a few years
[09:08] <Deiz> FWIW the graying-out of the restricted driver happens in both [K]ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10.
[09:08] <vr083263> Hello
[09:08] <VistaUser> lol i am from hawaii
[09:09] <jsunio> deiz: is there a free driver you can use that is similar?
[09:09] <Deiz> I'm doubting it.
[09:09] <jsunio> Yuck
[09:09] <jsunio> If I were you, I would pick another distro, a recent one, and see if it works there.
[09:09] <Deiz> I refuse to delve into nspluginwrapper. Ultimately I can live with a USB NIC, but it's 1 less USB port and 1 more item to carry around.
[09:09] <Deiz> Oh, it does.
[09:10] <basy> hi, all I have 2-monitor-twinview working OK (works with nvidia-settings), but often [play games :o)] i need only single monitor... Where to ask for support how to write single scripts that disable/enable my 2-monitor-twinview?
[09:11] <VistaUser> basy can u help me
[09:11] <jsunio> VistaUser: what situation did that error message come up?
[09:11] <Deiz> Tried a variety of LiveCDs, and it seems to work in most of them. I like DIY distros on my main machines. Gentoo and Arch, mainly.
[09:11] <jsunio> You saying it works on them but not on Kubuntu?
[09:11] <Deiz> However, I like pre-configured distros on the laptop, and I'd like to try KDE4.
[09:11] <Deiz> jsunio: I am.
[09:11] <jsunio> Did you try Kubuntu live-CD?
[09:11] <Deiz> I did.
[09:11] <Deiz> No dice there, either.
[09:12] <jsunio> Interesting....
[09:12] <VistaUser> i need help setting up my external monitor
[09:12] <Deiz> There are.. 3 distros that use KDE4 out of the box. openSUSE, Fedora, Kubuntu.
[09:12] <Deiz> I dislike RPM so that leaves me with one choice.
[09:12] <VistaUser> my main to my laptop is broken
[09:12] <guglielmo> ciao
[09:12] <jsunio> Deiz: You'd think you could just copy the driver over....
[09:12] <Deiz> If I knew where it was looking, I could copy a binary over, yes.
[09:12] <Deiz> But I just get a cryptic file-not-found error.
[09:13] <jsunio> Diez: Does the version of kubuntu affect whether it works?
[09:14] <jsunio> How old is the card?
[09:14] <jsunio> VistaUser: have you set up xorg.conf file before?
[09:14] <VistaUser> i just did
[09:14] <Deiz> jsunio: I'm unsure of how old it is. I'd say perhaps 2002.
[09:14] <VistaUser> idk if i did right
[09:15] <Deiz> The proprietary driver enabling issue is present in 8.04 and 8.10.
[09:15] <Adola> Hey, I have a question!
[09:15] <jsunio> Deiz: Does it work on previous versions?
[09:15] <serenity> already a ppa for 4.2b1 available?
[09:16] <Deiz> jsunio: Unsure. I never had anything earlier than 8.04 on the laptop.
[09:16] <VistaUser> jsunio how do u know if u set up xorg.conf right if i reboot i am scared i can get back on
[09:16] <Adola> I have an old computer.  And I want to use it for back up...Should I make it a server?
[09:16] <jsunio> VistaUser: My xorg.conf has broken before, I end up having to fix it using command line
[09:16] <Deiz> VistaUser: If you make a copy of your xorg.conf, say xorg.conf.bak, and mess up xorg.conf
[09:16] <Adola> I meant to say, I have MY computer, and an old one.
[09:17] <jsunio> VistaUser: so I keep a copy called xorg.conf_bak
[09:17] <VistaUser> yah but i dont know that much
[09:17] <Deiz> You can simply mv the old copy to the normal spot.
[09:17] <jsunio> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:17] <jsunio> will restore it
[09:17] <VistaUser> ok
[09:18] <chase>  could anyone walk me through installing a widget? i keep getting a cmake error and cannot figure it out
[09:18] <simi> jsunio: about my connection to yahoo messenger, it takes more then 1 hour for pidgin or kopete to connect, sometimes if i restart it connects faster, but from windows yahoo messenger and pidgin for windows connects imediatly
[09:18] <Adola> Hello?
[09:19] <Deiz> Adola: What do you mean by "server"?
[09:19] <Deiz> In simplest terms, a backup machine can simply be a desktop running an rsync daemon.
[09:20] <jsunio> simi: that's weird.. sounds like a problem with the network?
[09:20] <Adola> Ok, thank you!  I mean.. I have basically nothing more than an old harddrive. sitting in a box with crap connected to it...And I want to use it as backup for my current system
[09:21] <courtjesterg> ok this is what i got the pidin im source code and the kopete source code i wonder is it just as simple to just stick the myspace protocal fffrom the pidgen source code into the the other protocal folder for kopete
[09:21] <Adola> Ok...Well....What connections would I need??? (I'm on dial-up..)
[09:21] <courtjesterg> sry pidgin
[09:21] <courtjesterg> and then recompile
[09:21] <Adola> So, I have no router or antyhing
[09:21] <jsunio> VistaUser: another thing you could do is fix it using a live CD
[09:22] <simi> jsunio: in windows it works pidgin, in linux is not working(nor kopete) the firewall is disabled and i have no more ideea
[09:22] <lokai> um, I have 3 PDFs open with KPDF. They were downloaded to /tmp. Now I want to save them to another directory, but it says that kpdf cannot save them. What's going on?
[09:22] <jsunio> It takes 1 hr to connect, but it always succeeds?
[09:23] <jsunio> simi: It takes 1 hr to connect, but it always succeeds?
[09:24] <Deiz> Adola: If the old machine is bootable and you can install a distro on it, then you just need to connect it to your current machine with a crossover cable.
[09:24] <Deiz> If it's not, and the hard drive is the only salvageable part, you'd need to either get an external enclosure for it, or put it into your current system.
[09:24] <Adola> AhhH!  Thank you!  Yes, I plan on putting something on it.  Would Xubuntu be a good choice for this?
[09:24] <Deiz> What are the specs on the machine?
[09:25] <lokai> um, I have 3 PDFs open with KPDF. They were downloaded to /tmp. Now I want to save them to another directory, but it says that kpdf cannot save them. What's going on?
[09:25] <Deiz> If it's really ancient, you might want to go commandline-only.
[09:25] <simi> jsunio: no, it is still connecting, and it is more then 2 hours since i started pidgin
[09:26] <Adola> Hrm...I don't know.  It's not SUPER old.  But...It's bad.  I mean...Ehh....I know for a fact it CAME with XP on it...So, it SHOULD be able to run Xubuntu....Yes?
[09:26] <Deiz> lokai: Do you have write access to the folder where you're trying to save them?
[09:26] <lokai> yes
[09:26] <Deiz> Adola: Yes, it can certainly run Xubuntu then.
[09:27] <Adola> Excellent.  So, A crossover cable will be all I need?
[09:27] <VistaUser> I DID IT
[09:27] <Adola> And to just set Xubuntu up on that empty shell of a computer?
[09:27] <VistaUser> i did the nvidia thing it work
[09:27] <lokai> I mean -- its in memory even if the temp file was already deleted
[09:27] <VistaUser> i am so happy ty everyone
[09:27] <lokai> Because I can see the freakin PDF
[09:27] <lokai> So why can't I save it?
[09:27] <Adola> (I'm trying to get to newegg to find prices on a "Crossover wire" but, I keep getting timeout errors....)
[09:28] <Deiz> Adola: Yep. It depends how you want to do backups, though. If you want rsync (Which can handle incremental backups. Such as a full sync weekly, and just the changes daily.) there are plenty of tutorials for setting it up.
[09:28] <Deiz> Also, I'd not buy a crossover from Newegg.
[09:28] <Deiz> You'll pay far more in shipping than for the actual cable.
[09:28] <VistaUser> can someone help me how i get wineHQ or w/e to run windows progs?
[09:29] <Deiz> lokai: That's.. odd.
[09:29] <lokai> tell me about it.
[09:29] <Adola> VistaUser: Congratz :DDD I had god awful problems wtih ATi
[09:29] <VistaUser> ty
[09:29] <VistaUser> nvidia is a pain to
[09:29] <Deiz> I'm unsure of how kpdf works. It could be that it's trying to source the files from where they used to be, as opposed to saving from what's in RAM.
[09:29] <VistaUser> Adola: u know how to get the programs to run window programs?
[09:29] <lokai> But that would be STUPID
[09:30] <Deiz> It would be.
[09:30] <Adola> Oh, Well...Would like...Walmart or Staples have it?
[09:30] <Deiz> At some point I had a program that couldn't read/write from tmp
[09:30] <lokai> File could not be saved in 'file:///home/<USERNAME>/Desktop/0706.0898v1'. Try to save it to another location
[09:30] <Deiz> lokai: Try saving it back to /tmp
[09:30] <Adola> VistaUser: I'm not prolific.  But, I've used Wine
[09:31] <lokai> doesnt work either, Deiz
[09:31] <VistaUser> were i get that?
[09:31] <courtjesterg> just noticed a txt file in protocal folder for kopete source code it has enable and disable switches
[09:31] <Deiz> Adola: Perhaps. I'd phone first. Most stores have ethernet cables, less have crossovers.
[09:31] <courtjesterg> # option(WITH_irc "Enable Kopete IRC protocol" OFF)
[09:31] <jsunio> simi: any relevant error messages in "dmesg"?
[09:31] <courtjesterg> they have the irc protocal off in kopete
[09:32] <simi> jsunio: no just Connecting....
[09:32] <Deiz> lokai: I'd tell you to copy the contents to a new instance of kpdf, but that's not exactly possible.
[09:32] <VistaUser> jsunio: how i get WineHQ?
[09:32] <Deiz> Seems like it'd be easiest to re-download the PDFs, if you can.
[09:32] <Adola> Thank you Diez.  Ilooked at walmart for FIrewire cables...Is that the same thing?
[09:32] <VistaUser> is there a command for termanel?
[09:32] <jsunio> VistaUser: never heard of it, try google
[09:32] <VistaUser> ok
[09:32] <jsunio> simi: have most recent version?
[09:32] <lokai> Deiz: Yeah I guess. Does this not count as a bug? I mean, is that really intended behavior?
[09:33] <Deiz> Adola: Nope. Essentially, the pins on a crossover cable are inverted on one end, so it's the same as an ethernet cable, but backwards.
[09:33] <Deiz> They're necessary when you don't have a router or switch and want to connect two machines
[09:33] <jsunio> You can make your own crossover cable from a regular cable
[09:33] <simi> jsunio: yes, i  tried same pidgin version of pidgin in windows and it works
[09:33] <Adola> VustaUser: Use Wine.  And just follow the lil' wizard that starts up.  You have to browse to your Windows partition.
[09:33] <Deiz> lokai: Yeah, I'd file a bug.
[09:34] <Adola> You can?  A regular Ethernet?  I can get hold of an Ethernet pretty easy.
[09:34] <jsunio> simi: I would try it using a different distro--maybe live CD--it could be something else goofy installed.
[09:35] <jsunio> (sorry sleep)
[09:36] <Deiz> lokai: So what'd you do? Load PDF from your browser into kpdf, then eventually the PDFs in /tmp were overwritten and now you can't save them?
[09:36] <maxim__> I've installed Martian drivers (i have winmodem). It works! i can, for example, download files via wget or open sites via elinks. But Konqueror doesn't work with this connection. Can smbd tell me why?
[09:36] <VistaUser> anyone know How to Install Beryl with latest nvidia drivers in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
[09:37] <Adola> You should just be able to use Adept.
[09:37] <Adola> Or Synaptic.
[09:37] <Adola> And.  It's called Emerald now.
[09:37] <VistaUser> oo ok
[09:37] <Adola> VistaUser: It's called Emerald.  I think...:/  But, use it.  It's great.
[09:37] <lokai> Deiz: Yes exactly.
[09:37] <VistaUser> yah it looks neat
[09:38] <Adola> VistaUser: And your probabbly looking for the goodness of Compiz Fusion.  SO..Get, Compiz as well.
[09:38] <Deiz> lokai: Giving it a shot to see if I can reproduce it.
[09:38] <VistaUser> ok
[09:38] <lokai> using KDE 3, fyi
[09:38] <Adola> VistaUser: It's what I use to inpress my friends to Ubuntu
[09:39] <VistaUser> lol
[09:39] <VistaUser> i love ubuntu with nvidia graphics
[09:39] <VistaUser> it looks pleasing
[09:39] <Adola> nVidia graphics?    Just wondering?
[09:40] <VistaUser> anything else i should get to enhance ubuntu
[09:40] <VistaUser> >>??
[09:40] <Deiz> lokai: Wasn't kpdf replaced with okular?
[09:40] <Adola> That's kinda like going into an all-black chat room with the name "KKK"
[09:41] <VistaUser> idk lol i just havent found another name
[09:41] <lokai> Deiz: Using KDE3
[09:41] <Adola> Well....To enhance further.  Compiz, Emerald,
[09:41] <Deiz> I see.
[09:41] <VistaUser> Adola: anything else to enhance ubuntu?>
[09:41] <lokai> (can't stand KDE4...so buggy)
[09:41] <VistaUser> oo ok
[09:41] <Adola> VistaUser: AmaroK
[09:41] <VistaUser> whats that?
[09:42] <Adola> VistaUser: It's the best multimedia player IMO.
[09:42] <VistaUser> oo ok
[09:42] <Adola> Google it.  They are FINALLY coming out with AmaroK 2..Even though it's in Release candidate form righ tnow.
[09:42] <Adola> Also.  Firefox...It's JUST as good on here as on windows.
[09:42] <VistaUser> brb
[09:42] <Adola> Oh, and do you IM?
[09:42] <Adola> Ok.
[09:43] <lokai> Thanks for talking, Deiz
[09:44] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[09:44] <knusperfrosch> anyone running knetworkmanager 0.2 (=hardy) insted of 0.7 on intrepid?
[09:45] <Adola> No, sorry.
[09:45] <knusperfrosch> from the point of usability: knetworkmanager 0.7 just sucks...
[09:46] <Adola> I'm sorry I can't help you.
[09:46] <VistaUser> back
[09:46] <Deiz> knusperfrosch: I have yet to find a graphical networking tool that I can tolerate.
[09:46] <VistaUser> ok what was that about IM?
[09:47] <VistaUser> Adola: what was that about IM
[09:47] <Adola> Do you?     I'm sorry Ubuntu/Kubuntu...MSN Plus CANNOT BE BEAT...It IS the BEST IM program...BUT, If your looking for a nice program like that for Ubuntu...Then Pidgin...
[09:49] <Adola> It's the standard for IM.  There are otherones that are supposed to be like MSN...But, they suck...They really do...The only good one is Pidgin.  It comes with alot of plugins.
[09:49] <VistaUser> so what i download lol
[09:49] <Adola> Do this.
[09:49]  * faileas uses kopete, which is ok ;p
[09:49] <faileas> oh, and is default in KDE ;)
[09:49] <Adola> Click what would be the "Start" button..Click Add/remove programs.  And search "Pidgin"
[09:50] <Adola> yeah, but VistaUser is uing Ubuntu...
[09:50] <Deiz> But that's tedious
[09:50] <Deiz> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[09:50] <VistaUser> i want to use KDE but someone said to hard to setup LOL
[09:50] <Adola> And...Pidgin is better than Kopete in my opinion....BUTTTTT, I'm using kopete now.
[09:50] <faileas> lol
[09:50] <Adola> (That's why I said the easy way.  I don't think our friend here is prolific enough to use Kommand)
[09:51] <Adola> Speaking of which my addy is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if anyone want's to add me ;D
[09:51] <VistaUser> yah
[09:51] <VistaUser> i am new at it
[09:51] <faileas> Adola: its something he REALLY needs to learn. very first thing too...
[09:51]  * faileas can't remember what the gnome terminal emulator is called
[09:51] <Adola> Yeah, your right....I knowww....
[09:51] <Adola> Terminal.
[09:52] <faileas> of course, if he was using kubuntu i'd suggest installing yakuake
[09:52] <Adola> That's it.
[09:52] <Adola> :D Very creative :D
[09:52] <knusperfrosch> anyone running kde 4.2beta1?
[09:52] <VistaUser> so what i do LOL
[09:52] <faileas> (there's a gnome equivilent but i can unabashedly say, its aweful compared to yakuake)
[09:52] <Adola> What's Yakuake?  I'm using Kubuntu?  (I couldn't stand that damn foot anymore...)
[09:52] <faileas> Adola: its a drop down quake style terminal emulator
[09:52] <Adola> knusperfroshshshsh: No, not yet.  But. I'm considering it.
[09:52] <Deiz> knusperfrosch: Briefly. Crash-city, which is saying something because I find 4.1 to be fairly unstable in itself.
[09:53] <Adola> AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
[09:53] <faileas> Adola: its a HUGE time saver if you use the terminal a fair bit
[09:53] <VistaUser> how i get faileas
[09:53] <Adola> i've yet to hit a snag with 4.1...I think I've had maybe.....2?
[09:53] <Adola> How you get what?
[09:54] <VistaUser> that Yakuake
[09:54] <knusperfrosch> Deiz: jupp, but i thaught it couldn't get any worse
[09:54] <knusperfrosch> Deiz: just looking for the kde4 networkmanager
[09:55] <Adola> Oh...yeah, I don't understand what you mean by Drop Down Quake style...Do you mean...Like...In games you press "Tab" and a lil box pops down from the top. with one of theses?  ">" and you go on from there?
[09:55] <VistaUser> is there like something like task manager??
[09:55] <faileas> VistaUser: if you're on the gnome desktop, i suggest asking help on #ubuntu as opposed to #kubuntu. In either case find terminal (or gnome) or konsole (on KDE)
[09:55] <VistaUser> ctrl + alt+ delete
[09:56] <faileas> hmm
[09:56]  * faileas generally uses the command 'top' from cli for that.
[09:56] <Adola> ~Blushes~  Actually...I too have wondered taht.
[09:56] <faileas> there's also system monitor
[09:56] <Deiz> faileas: Ever try htop?
[09:56] <Deiz> I prefer it greatly.
[09:57] <Adola> I use to be a Windows user as well...And (when 8.10 came out, it was a 6 month anniversary with Linux for me) I still don't know if there is one....
[09:57] <faileas> ... gah, a little OT, but is there a repartitioner for systems with VERY low memory?
[09:57] <faileas> Deiz: stuff like that is why i hang around here. no, and i shall take a poke at it
[09:57] <Deiz> You could just use fdisk
[09:57] <Deiz> It's not exactly user friendly compared to gparted/qtparted
[09:57] <faileas> Deiz: it resizes?
[09:58] <VistaUser> whats difference between kubuntu and ubuntu i thought the same
[09:58] <faileas> ya, got a box with 128 mb of ram i need to resize the hard drive on. its currently running win98 ;p
[09:58] <faileas> VistaUser: the desktop manager
[09:58] <Adola> Ok, I need help.
[09:58] <faileas> and what software is on by default
[09:58] <Deiz> I don't recall if it can resize.
[09:59] <VistaUser> which u prefer faileas?
[09:59] <Adola> Ubuntu runs of Gnome.  Kubuntu runs off KDE....I know, it's hard....Google it.
[09:59] <Adola> .....Kubuntu...
[09:59] <Adola> Notice the room.
[09:59] <faileas> VistaUser: Kubuntu, *but* i recommend trying out a few varients till you find one you like
[09:59] <VistaUser> lol
[09:59] <VistaUser> oo ok
[09:59] <faileas> i'm thinking of getting a lxde box up actually ;p
[10:00] <Adola> There is Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu.  Lots of them :D
[10:00] <VistaUser> i guess i need to get used to commands and what not before taking a step up
[10:00] <faileas> VistaUser: it will make your life a lot easier
[10:00] <VistaUser> lol
[10:00] <Adola> Yeah.  And if you run programs from terminals..You can see outputs easier..And find wehre problems are!
[10:00] <Deiz> faileas: Why not take it a step further and use a WM?
[10:00] <Adola> Ok.  Can someone please help me now?!?!?
[10:00] <faileas> you can also pastebin outputs, and copy and paste commands ;p
[10:01] <VistaUser> is there a button so terminal automatically pops up?
[10:01] <faileas> Deiz: well its a system thats gonna be used by people other than me ;p
[10:01] <Deiz> Aww.
[10:01] <Deiz> My main system boots to runlevel 3.
[10:01] <Adola> Yeah, It's under....."Start">System>Terminal.
[10:02] <VistaUser> kk
[10:02] <Adola> Ok...I've JUST started using IRC.  And...I ONLY have Kubuntu and Kubuntu-offtopic...How do I add rooms?
[10:02] <faileas> Deiz: its a little annoying since its old, and it dosen't have ethernet
[10:02] <Adola> http://searchirc.com/irc-Final%20Fantasy-1
[10:02] <faileas> Adola: /join roomname
[10:02] <faileas> oh yay, got parted magic working <3
[10:02] <Adola> How do I add one of these rooms?    I guess just connect when I want to.
[10:03] <Adola> I doon't even know how to connect to these rooms.
[10:03] <faileas> VistaUser: IIRC winehq has its own apt repository, and instructions
[10:04] <faileas> Adola: /join #roomname ;p
[10:04] <VistaUser> oo cool
[10:05] <VistaUser> i like ubuntu its a challenge
[10:05] <faileas> VistaUser: i'd also suggest adding medibuntu - it has a load of useful stuff
[10:05] <Adola> irc:// #final-fantasy
[10:05] <faileas> Adola: /join #final-fantasy
[10:05] <VistaUser> medibuntu is that in Synaptic package thing?
[10:06] <simi> jsunio:  i tried pidgin from ubuntu 8.04 live cd and kopete from 8.10 kubuntu live cd and it have the same problems, do not connect
[10:06] <faileas> VistaUser: no, its an additional 'repository' of software they can't or won't have in the default distribution
[10:06] <VistaUser> oo got to find in google
[10:06] <Adola> Medibuntu is very usefull.  I recommend.  Besides..Who doesn't love Google earth?
[10:07] <VistaUser> lol
[10:07] <Adola> Ok, I'm having problems...On the website..It says there are liked 2-6 current users...When I type /join and the rooom..I'm the only one in there.
[10:07] <VistaUser> i miss google chrome
[10:07] <Deiz> Err, what website?
[10:08] <Adola> www.searchirc.com
[10:08] <faileas> Adola: ... wait... what server is it supposed to be on?
[10:08] <Deiz> There's your problem.
[10:09] <Deiz> Sites that track IRC member counts often only poll every X minutes, so the data is often old.
[10:09] <Deiz> Also, faileas likely has a point.
[10:09] <Adola> Ohhh!   Oke!
[10:10] <Adola> I don't know what server.
[10:10] <Adola> That's what I was asking.
[10:10] <VistaUser> how do u change theme and what not of the OS??
[10:10] <Adola> How do I join...Anything?
[10:11] <Deiz> Adola: If it's on the same server, /j #channel will open a new tab for that channel
[10:11] <Deiz> If it's on a different server, you need to connect to that server to be able to use that channel.
[10:12] <Adola> Ohhh...Well, how do I know what server it is?  (I know how to add them searching the interface here on Konverstaion)
[10:12] <VistaUser> oo yah i need to get my wireless up and running
[10:13] <Deiz> Adola: What channel are you looking for?
[10:14] <VistaUser> got to reboot to make changes right?
[10:14] <Adola> http://searchirc.com/irc-Final%20Fantasy-1
[10:14] <Adola> Any of these.
[10:14] <Adola> What "Server" are these on?
[10:15] <Deiz> Server == Network
[10:15] <Deiz> So GameSurge, IRC-Hispano, EsperNet etc.
[10:15] <maggo79> hi. Are there kde 4.2 beta 1 packages available for intrepid?
[10:15] <Adola> Those are the servers?
[10:16] <Deiz> Yep
[10:17] <Adola> [05:16] [Info] Server found, connecting...
[10:17] <Adola> [05:16] [Error] Connection to Server GameSurge lost: connection actively refused.
[10:17] <Adola> [05:16] [Info] Trying to reconnect to GameSurge in 10 seconds.
[10:17] <Deiz> Most clients don't alias the server names to their full domains
[10:18] <Deiz> Thus, try irc.gamesurge.net
[10:18] <Adola> AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!THANKSYOU!
[10:20] <VistaUser> which Binary packages of medibuntu do i need?
[10:23] <VistaUser> ?
[10:23] <Deiz> VistaUser: That's up to you.
[10:24] <VistaUser> ooo is it any importance??
[10:24] <Deiz> Medibuntu is an extra repository that contains packages that may be useful to you, but they can't be distributed in the normal repositories due to legal issues, generally speaking.
[10:24] <VistaUser> oo kk
[10:25] <Deiz> Adobe Acrobat, Google Earth, mplayer, Skype to name a few.
[10:25] <VistaUser> kk
[10:25] <VistaUser> anything else recommened?
[10:25] <VistaUser> i going to restart computer soon thats y
[10:26] <Deiz> Not really. Medibuntu's a small repository with a few oft-requested packages.
[10:26] <VistaUser> oo kk
[10:31] <dddfhree> i have a wintv usb tv-card, but i cant get it work. lsusb recognizes it, but tvtime says no signal. any idea
[10:34] <Deiz> dddfhree: Which model, specifically? There are 13000 Google results for "tvtime wintv"
[10:35] <VistaUser> brb
[10:35] <dddfhree> Deiz: wintv usb
[10:39] <Deiz> dddfhree: From what I'm reading, you need to copy firmware.
[10:39] <VistaUser> back
[10:40] <Deiz> dddfhree: In tvtime, you're seeing a blue screen with No Signal on it?
[10:41] <dddfhree> yeah
[10:41] <webas> hello..i need very help.. im on kde 4.0 and i got very annoying problem...  ||| all icons of programs dissapeared in kmenu bottom line.. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4874/nu2922sa7.jpg
[10:42] <dddfhree> Deiz: yes, and it says no tv signal
[10:42] <dddfhree> i did modprobe usbvision then installed tvtime
[10:43] <dddfhree> Deiz: lsusb says Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0573:4d21 Zoran Co. Personal Media Division (Nogatech) Hauppauge WinTV-USB II (PAL)
[10:43] <VistaUser> how i use emerald?
[10:43] <webas> anybody? :|
[10:45] <dddfhree> Deiz: tvtime says Cannot open capture device /dev/video0
[10:45] <Deiz> dddfhree: The solution I see links to firmware, but the link's dead. :/
[10:50] <VistaUser> How do i use wine?
[10:50] <[360]mattzke[h]> Can some one pm me i need help with Kbuntu :D
[10:50] <Deiz> VistaUser: Wine creates a fake drive C:\ at ~/.wine/drive_c/
[10:51] <VistaUser> y cant i download any windows stuff?
[10:51] <Deiz> VistaUser: You can download any Windows executable.
[10:51] <[360]mattzke[h]> Deiz
[10:51] <[360]mattzke[h]> can u respond
[10:51] <VistaUser> kk
[10:51] <[360]mattzke[h]> to my
[10:51] <[360]mattzke[h]> . pm
[10:52] <Deiz> I don't receive queries
[10:52] <[360]mattzke[h]> Is there a possible way to run kubuntu without deleting windows?
[10:52] <Deiz> Yes.
[10:52] <[360]mattzke[h]> cause im runing windows atm
[10:52] <[360]mattzke[h]> Can u tell me?
[10:52] <[360]mattzke[h]> How?
[10:53] <gordon125> hi
[10:53] <Deiz> By default, most distributions will detect your Windows partition and resize it to a fraction of the drive.
[10:53] <gordon125> are there kde 4.2 beta 1 packages for intrepid?
[10:53] <[360]mattzke[h]> OK
[10:53] <[360]mattzke[h]> so
[10:54] <[360]mattzke[h]> if i put my kubuntu disc in
[10:54] <[360]mattzke[h]> what will happen?
[10:54] <[360]mattzke[h]> I'm a n00b :D
[10:54] <Deiz> You'll want to boot into the live environment, and hit Install Kubuntu.
[10:54] <[360]mattzke[h]> When i install it
[10:54] <[360]mattzke[h]> will it overwrite
[10:54] <Deiz> Yes.
[10:54] <[360]mattzke[h]> my
[10:54] <Deiz> No, it won't.
[10:55] <[360]mattzke[h]> Local Disk C:?
[10:55] <Deiz> Are you wanting to use Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10?
[10:55] <[360]mattzke[h]> 8.10
[10:55] <[360]mattzke[h]> is wat im d/ling
[10:56] <Deiz> Okay.
[10:56] <[360]mattzke[h]> So it will work?
[10:56] <Deiz> I'm booting the LiveCD now to check that my memory of the installer is correct
[10:56] <[360]mattzke[h]> ok
[10:56] <[360]mattzke[h]> do u have multiple comps?
[10:56] <Deiz> Yes, but I'm loading the LiveCD in a virtual machine.
[10:57] <gordon125> [360]mattzke[h]: boot up from cd, hit install kubuntu, system is asking for country, name, password and then it ask where to install on. There you have to choose on witch partition to install on.
[10:57] <[360]mattzke[h]> Whats the differnece between Live CD and the normal one?
[10:57] <gordon125> the live cd is the normal one
[10:57] <[360]mattzke[h]> Partition?
[10:57] <[360]mattzke[h]> as i said
[10:57] <[360]mattzke[h]> just take it easy with me :D
[10:57] <Deiz> The Live CD loads a fully-functional environment that you can fiddle around with before installing.
[10:58] <Deiz> The alternate install CD is just a text-installer.
[10:58] <serenity> and with the live cd you can play with AND install kubuntu
[10:58] <Deiz> Essentially, your current hard drive is one large partition, which contains Windows and all of your files.
[10:58] <[360]mattzke[h]> Yep
[10:58] <[360]mattzke[h]> True
[10:58] <Deiz> The Kubuntu installer will want to resize that partition and create a second one.
[10:59] <Deiz> Trouble is, it's greedy. It'll make your Windows partition as small as it needs to be, which is a problem if you intend to use more disk space on your Windows partition in future.
[10:59] <[360]mattzke[h]> So what it will like cut my ahrd drive down and make a new 1?
[10:59] <[360]mattzke[h]> Yea well
[10:59] <Deiz> Something like that.
[10:59] <[360]mattzke[h]> thats what i want to do lol
[10:59] <[360]mattzke[h]> :S
[11:00] <[360]mattzke[h]> Is there anyway to stop that>?
[11:01] <Deiz> Yes.
[11:01] <[360]mattzke[h]> How :D
[11:01] <Deiz> You can manually make your Windows partition as large or small as you want it to be.
[11:01] <[360]mattzke[h]> How does that work?
[11:01] <Deiz> It's quite user friendly, the installer presents you with a graphical bar representing your hard drive.
[11:01] <[360]mattzke[h]> Yep
[11:01] <Deiz> You can drag it over so that Windows takes up 75% of your hard drive, etcetera.
[11:01] <[360]mattzke[h]> Yep
[11:02] <[360]mattzke[h]> So if windows takes up 100%
[11:02] <[360]mattzke[h]> I wouldnt be able to install kubuntu?
[11:03] <Deiz> Yes, if 100% of the disk was full, you would need to delete some things to be able to resize.
[11:03] <[360]mattzke[h]> Ok hang on
[11:03] <[360]mattzke[h]> ill check what mine is
[11:03] <[360]mattzke[h]> :D
[11:03] <Deiz> Ideally, you want at least 3-4GB for a Kubuntu install.
[11:04] <serenity> if there is free space left you can resize the space windows needs and kubuntu will install on the rest
[11:04] <[360]mattzke[h]> i have
[11:04] <[360]mattzke[h]> 183 gb free
[11:04] <[360]mattzke[h]> :S
[11:04] <serenity> should be quite enough ;)
[11:04] <[360]mattzke[h]> So what will i have to do
[11:04] <[360]mattzke[h]> ?
[11:04] <serenity> resize windows, so that kubuntu has 20gb or such
[11:05] <[360]mattzke[h]> I mean
[11:05] <[360]mattzke[h]> when i run the installation
[11:05] <Deiz> Just follow the installer, it's very intuitive.
[11:05] <Deiz> Other than prompting you for your name, location, and partitioning, it's entirely hands-off.
[11:06] <[360]mattzke[h]> Uhh
[11:06] <[360]mattzke[h]> i jsut downloaded it
[11:06] <[360]mattzke[h]> its
[11:06] <[360]mattzke[h]> a zip file but it has .iso
[11:07] <Deiz> Extract the ISO out of it, then burn the ISO to a CD with your burning software.
[11:07] <[360]mattzke[h]> Where would the iso be
[11:07] <[360]mattzke[h]> cant seem to find it
[11:07] <serenity> [360]mattzke[h]: how is the file called you downloaded?
[11:08] <[360]mattzke[h]> kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:08] <[360]mattzke[h]> its coming up as a zip though
[11:08] <[360]mattzke[h]> ?
[11:08] <serenity> take this iso and burn it to disk
[11:09] <mattzke> I cant find the iso though
[11:09] <mattzke> :S
[11:09] <serenity> kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso is the iso
[11:09] <mattzke> Yea
[11:09] <mattzke> but on my comp
[11:09] <mattzke> its coming up as a zip file
[11:09] <mattzke> ?
[11:09] <mattzke> and cant burn it
[11:10] <mattzke> Ok
[11:10] <mattzke> never mind
[11:10] <mattzke> What shuld i burn it to
[11:10] <mattzke> a DVD
[11:10] <serenity> cd
[11:10] <mattzke> or CD?
[11:10] <mattzke> ok thanks
[11:11] <serenity> should be around 700mb, so a cd is ok
[11:11] <serenity> here a video tutorial for installation:http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Media/flash/Kubuntu-install-to-hard-drive.swf
[11:11] <mattzke> yea its 699
[11:11] <mattzke> Ok thanks aloty
[11:12] <mattzke> When i turn the comp off
[11:12] <VistaUser> how do i change the theme of ubuntu?
[11:12] <mattzke> will
[11:12] <mattzke> it
[11:12] <mattzke> boot from cd?
[11:13] <VistaUser> anyone??
[11:13] <Deiz> VistaUser: Under GNOME, System -> Preferences -> Appearance or something.
[11:13] <Deiz> mattzke: That depends on your system.
[11:13] <mattzke> ahh k
[11:13] <VistaUser> oo i mean were can i get the themes
[11:13] <Deiz> By default, most systems do.
[11:13] <mattzke> yea
[11:13] <mattzke> havent changed anything
[11:13] <mattzke> so yea
[11:13] <VistaUser> i went to a site with themes but idk how to make the thing recognize them and allow me to use
[11:13] <Deiz> In the event it doesn't try hitting F12 while at the BIOS screen, which will likely bring up a boot menu letting you choose from CD / Hard Drive / Floppy etc.
[11:14] <Deiz> VistaUser: IIRC it's drag-and-drop.
[11:14] <VistaUser> oooo
[11:14] <serenity> or on some systems f2
[11:14] <mattzke> ok ta
[11:14] <Deiz> serenity: I wish that were standardized.
[11:14] <serenity> Deiz: me too, but why should they? Is written on startup ;)
[11:15] <Deiz> Not in the BIOS of my P133 laptop. :)
[11:15] <Deiz> Takes 10s to finish boot checks. I have yet to dedicate time to finding out how to enter the BIOS.
[11:15] <karan> how do you increase the half ions in kubuntuopen connect
[11:16] <faileas> Deiz: i just hit random buttons till it works ;p
[11:16] <karan> how do you increase the half open connections in kubuntu
[11:17] <mattzke> Deiz
[11:17] <mattzke> so
[11:17] <mattzke> when i install
[11:17] <Deiz> faileas: Heh. It's prone to odd errors, after which it loads a GUI strikingly similar to twm.
[11:17] <mattzke> and it comes up to the partition screen
[11:17] <serenity> Deiz: rebooting and trying
[11:17] <mattzke> Do i
[11:17] <mattzke> Do it manual
[11:18] <mattzke> so i can choose how much disk space its going to take up?
[11:18] <Deiz> You're fine to do it with "Guided: Resize existing partitions", which is the default
[11:18] <Deiz> It'll give you a percentage of the disk as well as actual space usage.
[11:18] <mattzke> I don't want it to take up all the 183 gb on my harddrive
[11:18] <karan> how do you increase the half open connections in kubuntu
[11:19] <Deiz> It'll have something like [Windows NTFS          ]|[      Kubuntu 8.10], and you can drag the divider to change the space usage.
[11:19] <serenity> karan: what do you mean with half open?
[11:19]  * serenity wants to have kde4.2 packages :(
[11:20] <mattzke> SO it won't take my windows off?
[11:20] <Deiz> It won't.
[11:20] <mattzke> Ok
[11:20] <mattzke> here
[11:20] <mattzke> goes
[11:20] <mattzke> the INSTALLATION
[11:20] <Deiz> serenity: I want a laptop that isn't a heat-producing mongrel.
[11:20] <mattzke> THE INSTALLATION*
[11:20] <mattzke> lol
[11:20] <mattzke> ill
[11:20] <mattzke> bbs
[11:20] <mattzke> :D
[11:20] <serenity> Deiz: but packages for beta1 are more realistic ;)
[11:20] <Deiz> The P133 laptop is perpetually cool, the P4 2.53GHz laptop is perpetually 50+ C, with a freshly cleaned heatsink.
[11:21] <Deiz> Prior to my knowing that it had a block of dust half an inch thick on the heatsink, it'd idle at 65c and overheat with everything except window managers. :D
[11:21] <faileas> Deiz: PIV laptops had SERIOUS heating issues.
[11:22] <Deiz> Indeed. And mine's one of the worst, an Inspiron 5100.
[11:22]  * faileas can actually keep his c2d on his lap with no issues ;p
[11:22] <Deiz> Eh, you might fry your nuts eventually.
[11:22] <serenity> faileas: for how long ;)
[11:22] <faileas> i'm trying to work on a PIII 733, but its being a pain
[11:22] <faileas> serenity: ~4-5 hours at a stretch ;p
[11:22] <webas> is there any way to reset 4.0 kde interface? :\
[11:23] <elwood> hi guys
[11:23] <Deiz> webas: Doubtlessly, but I'm not sure which configuration files you'd be removing to achieve that.
[11:23] <elwood> i want to try kde-nightly ....i have to remove my default kde version?
[11:24] <webas> Deiz - http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4874/nu2922sa7.jpg this is my problem.. no icons showing on bottom line
[11:24] <Deiz> elwood: I would assume so. You can't have concurrent KDE3.5 and KDE4, I'd assume the same is true for KDE4 / KDE4dev
[11:24] <elwood> Deiz: well so it wil bve a long day :)
[11:25] <elwood> Deiz: thanks
[11:25] <Deiz> webas: Is your right menu/clock/systray normally on the right?
[11:26] <webas> yes its oldschool kmenu on right i prefer to use that.. sometimes i use new kmenu...but all programs firefox dolphin any..wont show icons normally..so from right all stuff went to left.. :|
[11:26] <webas> i changed users - and another user has no problems..
[11:26] <Deiz> webas: I think, since your panel is otherwise working normally, your window list has been deleted/removed.
[11:26] <webas> ye ye maybe..hm strange how..but ..well how to enable ?
[11:27] <Deiz> Go to Add Widgets, and put in a Task Manager.
[11:27] <webas> wow big big thanks..
[11:27] <VistaUser> i am going to go cya tomorrow
[11:28] <webas> also..how to modify that kbottom line..because now my clock is on the left + all auto loading programs.. :\
[11:28] <Deiz> webas: See the half yin-yan on the right?
[11:28] <Deiz> Click it.
[11:28] <Deiz> You can then click and drag your widgets around.
[11:28] <Deiz> Also, when you're done, right click the panel and lock the panels
[11:29] <Deiz> To avoid this happening again
[11:29] <Deiz> *lock the widgets
[11:29] <webas> mm what jing jang? :) okay i will try to lock widgets next time..big thanks
[11:33] <no1peacedragon> In synaptic package manager can i clear out Not Installed (residual config)? I had upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid
[11:35] <Deiz> no1peacedragon: Yes. That merely means that the configuration files for removed packages still exist. By removing them you'll save a few kilobytes per package, probably.
[11:35] <Deiz> To remove them, you need to do a Complete Uninstall.
[11:36] <no1peacedragon> Deiz ok thx just wanted to make sure before I pushed buttons that shouldn't be pushed
[11:36] <no1peacedragon> I figure in another 10 years I will be good at this
[11:37] <karan> how do you increase the half open connections in kubuntu to increase torrentz speeds
[11:39] <Deiz> karan: I'm not aware of a limit.
[11:39] <faileas> no1peacedragon: 5 ;p
[11:40] <nikolas_> guys can someone hepl me with synchronizing kontact with the horde contacts?
[11:40] <faileas> and there will be a certain point of time when your skills improve a LOT ;p
[11:40] <Deiz> faileas: And then he can start with CLI
[11:41] <no1peacedragon> CLI?
[11:41] <faileas> Deiz: lol. actually thats when you improve
[11:41] <Deiz> command-line interface
[11:41] <faileas> command line interface, AKA the one true way of the *nix hacker ;p
[11:42] <no1peacedragon> oh lol Heck i just barely know how to update
[11:42] <no1peacedragon> ;P
[11:42] <faileas> no1peacedragon: my first linux experience ended when i realised i didn't know how to install things ;p
[11:43] <Deiz> My first *nix experience ended when I had installed FreeBSD but had no idea how to get a graphical environment going. :/
[11:43] <faileas> lol
[11:44] <faileas> i started with mandriva, then the person who was supposed to have helped me out dumped me. ;p
[11:44] <nikolas_> guys can someone hepl me with synchronizing kontact with the horde contacts?
[11:44] <faileas> then suse, then ubuntu
[11:44] <Deiz> I went from FreeBSD to Debian to SUSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Fedora again, Ubuntu again, then Arch.
[11:45] <Deiz> Been happily using Arch on my desktop for some six months.
[11:45] <Deiz> nikolas_: What's the Horde?
[11:45] <no1peacedragon> faileas my first experince ended with red hat linux about 10 years ago i got it installed but didn't know how to make it do anything
[11:45] <nikolas_> this is the webmail client we use for our corporate email
[11:47] <Deiz> I'm unsure
[11:48] <Deiz> Certainly anything that you can log in to can be synced with Kontact
[11:48] <Deiz> I just have no idea on how to go about it
[12:00] <mattzke> Hey guys how do i download apps?
[12:00] <mattzke> I got Kubuntu working
[12:00] <Deiz> mattzke: Through Adept
[12:00] <mattzke> Whats that>
[12:00] <mattzke> Can u guide me
[12:00] <mattzke> ?
[12:00] <mattzke> please
[12:01] <Deiz> Go through the menu, Look under Applications -> System
[12:01] <mattzke> Then?
[12:01] <Deiz> Pick either Adept or Synaptic, and search for the program you want
[12:02] <mattzke> I haven't installed adept yet
[12:02] <mattzke> :D
[12:02] <Deiz> Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:02] <mattzke> Kubuntu
[12:02] <Deiz> Odd.
[12:02] <Deiz> AFAIK a default Kubuntu install includes both Adept and Synaptic
[12:02] <mattzke> No wait
[12:02] <mattzke> it says
[12:02] <mattzke> ubuntu
[12:03] <mattzke> :S
[12:03] <mattzke> But
[12:03] <mattzke> u downloaded kubuntu
[12:03] <mattzke> and everything
[12:03] <mattzke> but it installed ubuntu?
[12:03] <Deiz> Where does it say Ubuntu?
[12:04] <mattzke> User mattzke on ubuntu
[12:04] <Deiz> That may just be the default hostname
[12:04] <Deiz> The menu icon
[12:04] <Deiz> Is it a K with a gear around it?
[12:04] <mattzke> Yea
[12:04] <Deiz> Then you're running Kubuntu
[12:08] <mattzke> I wanna download a prgram
[12:08] <mattzke> but
[12:08] <mattzke> i click
[12:09] <mattzke> download
[12:09] <mattzke> but under progrees
[12:09] <mattzke> progress
[12:09] <mattzke> nothing comes us
[12:09] <mattzke> up*
[12:09] <Deiz> Using Synaptic?
[12:09] <mattzke> Adept
[12:10] <mattzke> But there in preview
[12:11] <mattzke> Any Ideas?
[12:12] <Deiz> Adept -> Apply Changes
[12:14] <mattzke> Ok thanks
[12:15] <mattzke> that worked :D
[12:15] <mattzke> Aiight
[12:15] <mattzke> im going to head off
[12:15] <mattzke> thanks for everything
[12:15] <mattzke> :D
[13:05] <VistaUser> hey
[13:05] <VistaUser> anyone there
[13:13] <zer0o> hi guys what was the right command to copy a folder? sudo cp - something?
[13:13] <zer0o> what was it?
[13:13] <silvester01> sudo cp "source" "target"
[13:14] <elwood> hi
[13:14] <silvester01> hi
[13:14] <elwood> again :)
[13:14] <elwood> where is stored the kde menu file?
[13:14] <silvester01> maybe in your personal folder
[13:15] <elwood> yes but in .kde?
[13:15] <silvester01> maybe
[13:16] <silvester01> .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[13:18] <matisse> hi
[13:18] <silvester01> hi
[13:19] <matisse> If I want to change file type handling for .qti files but not for simple text files which my .qti is recognized as, what should I do ?
[13:20] <matisse> (Or is this sentence so wrong, that nobody understands it ?)
[13:20] <silvester01> a little bit
[13:20] <silvester01> you want handel your .qti files but not your text files
[13:20] <matisse> yes
[13:21] <matisse> I have a .qti file, which is recognized as "Simple text". What happens if I change "Always open with QTIplot" ?
[13:21] <silvester01> all qti files will open wit
[13:21] <silvester01> sorry
[13:22] <matisse> and not the simple text files too ?
[13:22] <silvester01> all files with ending .qti will open with QTIplot
[13:22] <silvester01> only files with .qti
[13:22] <matisse> k
[13:22] <matisse> thx
[13:22] <silvester01> pls
[13:22] <matisse> didn't want to mess up my system, thats why I asked :)
[13:23] <silvester01> ok,
[13:24] <matisse> well, you're wrong :/
[13:25] <elwood> silvester01: thanks, i update ti nightly and get no menu
[13:25] <elwood> silvester01: but now i have  chance :)
[13:25] <silvester01> the file type handling is only for file endings
[13:26] <silvester01> ok
[13:26] <matisse> when using windoze, yes
[13:26] <matisse> but .txt is also opened with qtiplot
[13:28] <matisse> but I know where I could change the settings correctly
[13:29] <silvester01> you can handle the problem with a startskript
[13:29] <silvester01> wait a second
[13:30] <matisse> changed it in konqueror settings
[13:30] <matisse> or wait
[13:30] <matisse> do you thought I have dolphin ?
[13:30] <matisse> did you think
[13:32] <matisse> whats with that file ?
[13:33] <silvester01> this, must be the correct start skript, you must change the txt file programm and the name
[13:34] <matisse> as you see it doesnt work
[13:34] <matisse> du musst angemeldet sein bei Freenode
[13:37] <yohanes> heloo
[13:43] <silvester01> #!/bin/sh
[13:43] <silvester01> case "$1" in
[13:43] <silvester01>     *.qti|*.QTI)
[13:43] <silvester01>         QTIplot "$1" ;;
[13:43] <silvester01>     *)
[13:43] <silvester01>         kate "$1" ;;
[13:43] <silvester01> esac
[13:43] <koperton> hi how could i disable this ? http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konquerorasksenddt1.jpg
[13:47] <koperton> :'(
[13:47] <koperton> nobodu has ideas to disable this http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konquerorasksenddt1.jpg
[13:48] <koperton> *nobody
[13:51] <matisse> silvester01: wb :)
[13:51] <matisse> so, but where should I "put" it ?
[13:52] <maxbaldwin> koperton: Konqueror --> Preferences --> Browse through the download section.
[13:52] <matisse> silvester01: sending files on freenode only works if you're registered
[13:53] <koperton> maxbaldwin: download section? mm i have not i have java javscript cache
[13:53] <koperton> and that stuff
[13:56] <koperton> maxbaldwin: i am blind where is preferences i have only configure konquerror
[13:57] <maxbaldwin> koperton: well after some looking around, I didn't find a download section either.
[13:58] <maxbaldwin> So I dunno. :\
[13:58] <koperton> sigh
[13:58] <maxbaldwin> but it's just a click of _one_ button, so it's not that much in the way.
[14:02] <koperton> maxbaldwin: mm well it's not this the point because i get error from server
[14:03] <maxbaldwin> oh... no idea then. :\
[14:03] <acemo> !kde4.2
[14:04] <acemo> !kde 4.2
[14:05] <koperton> instead with firefox you have nto to answer to that question i think it's this cuz firefox can upload and konqueror not
[14:06] <VistaUser> what is default display manager??? gdm or kdm
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> it doesn't really matter
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> except that one uses the kubuntu theme and the other uses ubuntu's theme
[14:07] <VistaUser> so kdm is kubuntu theme?
[14:10] <knusperfrosch> kdm theme? take a look at solar mania
[14:13] <SkEmO> HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! :D
[14:14] <acemo> about how soon should i expect kde 4.2 beta 1 packages for kubuntu?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:17] <koperton> [15:01] <koperton> maxbaldwin: mm well it's not this the point because i get error from server
[14:17] <koperton> [15:02] <koperton> instead with firefox you have nto to answer to that question i think it's this cuz firefox can upload and konqueror not
[14:25] <Cugel> Hello people.
[14:25] <gg> hello :)
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> hi Cugel
[14:26] <Cugel> I'm running Kubuntu Intrepid. Was wondering how I can 'upgrade' to the KDE 4.2 beta. Any repos?
[14:26] <bentob0x> lol, I was about to ask the same
[14:26] <tkstka> what was the command for checking your systems upgrade number?
[14:26] <bentob0x> CAN'T WAIT FOR KDE4.2!!!
[14:26] <vbgunz> the icons in my system tray sometimes lose there transparency... the background turns white... on a black task bar... I see this all the time. anyone know whats happening?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Cugel: i doubt it, i think you will have to compile
[14:26] <Cugel> tray = buggy
[14:26] <bentob0x> is it hard ActionParsnip?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: mine do that too, i'm over it
[14:27] <acemo> Cugel: as long as there isn't any post on kubuntu.org about 4.2 then u wont be able to get em from repos.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: as long as you have the dependancies its flawless
[14:27] <Cugel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/247393
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> !compile | bentob0x
[14:27] <bentob0x> nice
[14:27] <Cugel> anyone running the beta?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Cugel: im sitting on 4.1 for now
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:30] <tkstka> what command I get to know what versio number my Kubuntu is?
[14:30] <acemo> echo 'uname -a'?
[14:31] <vbgunz> "CTRL+ALT+F1" + "CTRL+ALT+F7"  ... heh, works but is an insane workaround... thanks Cugel
[14:33] <tkstka> what is a good torrent program for kubuntu?
[14:33] <vbgunz> tkstka: I do not believe there is any command that will tell you -> Hardy, Inteprid or Jaunty, etc... nor 8.04, 8.10, 9.04... its something you just have to know
[14:33] <bentob0x> tkstka: ktorrent
[14:33] <bentob0x> !ktorrent | tkstka
[14:33] <bentob0x> ^^
[14:34] <vbgunz> another way is to go to system help and check about kubuntu
[14:34] <Dragonath> how come 'sh /home/user/nwn/nwn' works in a terminal window but doesnt work once I paste the command into the k menu editor?
[14:34] <vbgunz> Dragonath: most likely the space
[14:35] <vbgunz> make the nwn file executable and then link to it directly without sh
[14:35] <tkstka> I once saw one of my friends who had some other linux. He had cool transperacy can I get one in kubuntu?
[14:35] <Dragonath> vbgunz: ls -la shows its permissions as -rwxrwxr-x
[14:36] <tkstka> and he had some cool quick button that made the desktops in to a 3d cube
[14:36] <tkstka> can those be done in kubuntu?
[14:36] <maxbaldwin> what's the right way to install kde4 over gnome?
[14:36] <maxbaldwin> what packages?
[14:36] <Cugel> kubuntu-desktop?
[14:36] <maxbaldwin> for kde4?
[14:36] <vbgunz> Dragonath: put it in your menu without the sh prefix
[14:36] <maxbaldwin> and that's it?
[14:36] <Cugel> tkstka: cube is in 4.2...
[14:37] <Cugel> 4.1 has excellent effects, I have to admit.
[14:37] <tkstka> I have kde 4
[14:37] <Dragonath> vbgunz: it doesn't start, it just keeps hanging
[14:37] <tkstka> so I need to upgrade
[14:37] <tkstka> how do I do that?
[14:38] <tkstka> I'm probably annoying as hell.. asking so noob questions all the time :P
[14:38] <knusperfrosch> tkstka: build the sourcepackages or wait for .debs
[14:38] <vbgunz> Dragonath: is it that the script nwn only makes sense in terminal or something? no gui?
[14:38] <acemo> tkstka: u wait for the announcement on kubuntu.org about kde 4.2 and when its there, follow the instructions that it gives you. at the moment, u can't upgrade to kde 4.2 yet without compiling yourself
[14:38] <Dragonath> vbgunz: it starts neverwinter nights
[14:38] <tkstka> so the kde 4.2 hasnt arrived yet for kubuntu?
[14:38] <tkstka> :O
[14:39] <tkstka> when will it come?
[14:39] <Dragonath> vbgunz: it might want to throw error messages into the terminal
[14:39] <vbgunz> Dragonath: not sure what the issue is exactly :/ usually if it is executable and doesn't need a terminal you can leave off the sh prefix...
[14:40] <acemo> tkstka: i don't know when it will come, havent talked to anyone thats working on making the packages about it yet.
[14:40] <tkstka> ok thanks
[14:40] <Dragonath> vbgunz: yeah it's weird, but it's not like I desperately need it in the menu, just wanted it to be easily accessible, no worries
[14:41] <acemo> tkstka: i'm guessing it should be in a few days.
[14:41] <knusperfrosch> erm, what's that knetworkmanager package for? seems to be empty
[14:42] <vbgunz> Dragonath: you can try setting the working directory
[14:42] <vbgunz> check advanced settings in new entry
[14:42] <jewel_> internal error, disk drive cannot be mounted
[14:42] <jewel_> What does it mean?
[14:43] <jewel_> I'm using ubuntu8.10
[14:43] <knusperfrosch> jewel_: have a look at dmesg | tail
[14:43] <Dragonath> vbgunz: tried that already, also the run in terminal and run as different user things (I am on kde3.5)
[14:43] <vbgunz> I envy you :)
[14:44] <Dragonath> I'm finding it hard not to envy myself too :P
[14:45] <jewel_> Ifound
[14:45] <jewel_> [ 9201.032039] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:45] <jewel_> [ 9211.056083] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:45] <jewel_> [ 9221.080051] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:45] <jewel_> [ 9231.104100] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <jewel_> [ 9241.128049] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <jewel_> [ 9251.152026] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <jewel_> [ 9261.176045] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <jewel_> [ 9271.200058] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <Dragonath> noo
[14:46] <jewel_> [ 9281.224049] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <jewel_> [ 9291.248041] eth0: auto-negotiating...
[14:46] <jewel_> but didn't understand anything
[14:46] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: jewel_ use nopaste!
[14:46] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: sry
[14:47] <acemo> jewel_: please use a paste site so you don't spam the chat, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:47] <Dragonath> turns out that setting the command to 'sh /home/user/nwn/nwn' and work path to '/home/user/nwn/' results in the game starting but the screen flickering with something awful
[14:47] <JontheEchidna> knusperfrosch: no problem :)
[14:48] <knusperfrosch> jewel_: and your networking has nothing to do with trying to mount some disk.
[14:48] <knusperfrosch> jewel_: what are you trying to mount, what do you use to mount it etc.. be a bit more verbose ;)
[15:01] <francesco_> ciao
[15:01] <francesco_> come mai kubunto non trova i pacchetti di skype?
[15:02] <maxbaldwin> !spanish | francesco_
[15:02] <francesco_> sorry
[15:02] <maxbaldwin> I have no idea what he's saying. :(
[15:02] <maxbaldwin> oh, maybe wait. that's okay.
[15:03] <francesco_> i dont know how I can install spype on my kubuntu
[15:03] <maxbaldwin> okay, now it makes sense! :D
[15:03] <francesco_> sorry but my englisch is teriibol
[15:04] <acemo> francesco_: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/ you can download it here
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> or if that doesn't work, try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=925211
[15:07] <francesco_> thank you
[15:08] <acemo> francesco_: your welcome, have fun skyping ^^
[15:11] <francesco_> ahh sorry but I must clic on (Ubuntu 7:04?
[15:12] <acemo> francesco_: yup
[15:12] <maxbaldwin> francesco_:  yes
[15:12] <maxbaldwin> what acemo said
[15:12] <acemo> francesco_: the ubuntu package is for all ubuntu versions.
[15:14] <francesco_> sorry but I m not so expert
[15:16] <acemo> francesco_: no problem, glad to be of service
[15:17]  * genii puts on a pot of Tim Horton's coffee for the channel
[15:18] <aleboco> hi guys, i'm currently unable to load the bluetack lists into ktorrent... can any one help me sort it out?
[15:19] <elwood> ahi all
[15:19] <elwood> anyone using kde-nightly on intrepid?
[15:20] <Tm_T> elwood: what about it?
[15:20] <Tm_T> aka "don't ask to ask, just ask" (:)
[15:21] <elwood> empty menu, either kickoff and lancelot.
[15:21] <elwood> it's a "bug"?
[15:22] <Tm_T> elwood: and your ~/.menu/ doesn't contain anything which doesn't belong to there?
[15:22] <elwood> Tm_T: i have both, kde4.1 from "normal" ibex and kde-neon. same /home different .kde .kde-neon but only in the 1st i have menu full.
[15:23] <elwood> i suppose because neon's stuff is in /opt. maybe a link problem :)
[15:23] <Tm_T> elwood: perhaps
[15:23] <elwood> there is a command to regenerate menu?
[15:24] <tkstka> So added new harddrives.. linux seems to see them but I cant open
[15:24] <tkstka> it just gives blank
[15:25] <Shaan7> I have "Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller" network card on my laptop, runs fine on ubuntu 8.10 but in kubuntu 8.10 it says "eth0 down" before i connect a wire, and "eth0 disconnected" after connecting the wire. I have a manual IP config, have configured it using KNetworkManager. Any idea whats wrong?
[15:25] <Tm_T> tkstka: you need to format/partition them?
[15:25] <Tm_T> elwood: kbuildsycoca4 --noincrement ?
[15:26] <tkstka> Tm_T no I dont want to there are stuff there
[15:26] <Tm_T> tkstka: and they have what filesystem?
[15:26] <tkstka> there are movies and music and other usefull stuff there
[15:26] <elwood> Tm_T: i found a workaround on launchpad, thanks :)
[15:26] <Tm_T> elwood: ah, good
[15:27] <tkstka> ntfs
[15:27] <tkstka> Tm_T:
[15:27] <Tm_T> tkstka: hmmm, and you get them mounted properly?
[15:28] <manish> By mistake i lost my open office suite and now i am not able to install it back. this haapend when i installed local language pack (HIndi) from system settings. Please tell me how do i get it back. When i try to install it again using synaptic it says unresolvable dependencies. please help
[15:28] <elwood> Tm_T: but your command is useful! adding to my memo
[15:28] <tkstka> well I havent done anything to the hard drives yet
[15:28] <tkstka> I'm so noob
[15:28] <manish> Genii: By mistake i lost my open office suite and now i am not able to install it back. this haapend when i installed local language pack (HIndi) from system settings. Please tell me how do i get it back. When i try to install it again using synaptic it says unresolvable dependencies. please help
[15:28] <Tm_T> !mount | tkstka
[15:29] <manish> !openoffice
[15:30] <genii> manish: Perhaps it is still installed but lacking understanding of Hindi if it was originally installed in another language
[15:30] <manish> Genii: SO how do i get it back.
[15:31] <genii> manish: Have you tried install of Hindi openoffice language pack? eg:   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-l10n-hi-in
[15:33] <manish> genii:
[15:33] <manish> openoffice.org-l10n-hi-in is already the newest version.
[15:33] <manish> openoffice.org-l10n-hi-in set to manually installed.
[15:33] <manish> so what does this mean...
[15:33] <tkstka> !GParted
[15:34] <manish> Genii: Can you see what the o/p says when i try to install the way you just asked me to....
[15:35] <genii> manish: Does result of: apt-cache policy openoffice.org                report?
[15:36] <manish> sorrt to say: can you explain in simple terms, what you mean by that....
[15:36] <genii> manish: Also, my nickname does not have uppercase G, so it does not flag to me to look here if you spell it that way :)
[15:36] <manish> ok i will take care of that
[15:37] <genii> manish: In Konsole, to issue: apt-cache policy openoffice.org               ..this will tell what version of openoffice you have available and which is installed if any (has *** next to)
[15:37] <genii> manish: Don't paste entire results of command to here
[15:38] <manish> genii: it says : Installed none
[15:38] <manish> genii: do you want to see the complete o/p
[15:39] <manish> can i pm you the results of commands. coz the net connection is real slow out here and its really very long if i use the pastebin
[15:40] <manish> genii: now what do i do. please let me know
[15:41] <manish> Genii:  I just switched back my system language and other language to english so should i log off and log back in and see if something happens
[15:41] <genii> manish: Just report line which has in it the *** if there is one
[15:42] <manish> genii: no line with 3 stars (***)
[15:43] <manish> does that mean that i will have to download complete openoffice all over again....?   :(
[15:43] <genii> manish: So then to try:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[15:43] <genii> manish: The file you downloaded earlier of it should still be on the computer, which it will want to use first
[15:44] <manish> genii: so how do i tell the comp to use the downloaded file first
[15:44] <genii> manish: It will wan to do that on it's own
[15:44] <genii> *want
[15:45] <genii> manish: The file will be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:46] <genii> manish: This is if you used before apt-get or Synaptic or Adept to install it, and not some odd way like downloading the source of it or such
[15:48] <manish> genii: again the same results. It got updated and then after that gave the result as "unresolvable dependies
[15:48] <tkstka> so I formated I used ext2 this was first in the option
[15:48] <snyderios> i've got a questen too
[15:48] <tkstka> did I do right?
[15:48] <manish> there are only 2 files by the name open office. one is by the name help-hi-... and other is -l10n-hi-in....
[15:49] <manish> genii:
[15:49] <snyderios> now i use kubuntu 8.04 with kde3 and i'm thinking about an upgrade to 8.10 with kde4.. now my question: is there konqueror also in kde4 oder just Dolphin?
[15:49] <genii> manish: I  know for you pastebin is slow. But please pastebin the entire result of that command
[15:49] <manish> ok
[15:50] <andybleaden> snyderios: I think there is konqueror for kde 4
[15:50] <acemo> snyderios: there is also konqueror in kde4
[15:50] <faileas> snyderios: conqui is still there as a browser. dolphin as a file manager
[15:50] <faileas> *konquiror
[15:51] <snyderios> hmm as a browser i use firefox3 but now under kde3 the dolhpin isn't great.. i missed the file-tree so i still use the conqueror
[15:51] <liquid> I got question, what named programs should i install, so i can watch youtube videos?
[15:51] <liquid> Sorry, im new whit kubuntu.
[15:51] <acemo> liquid flashplugin-nonfree
[15:51] <snyderios> liquid: you need the flashplugin for your browser
[15:52] <liquid> Im using adept manager
[15:52] <liquid> thanks
[15:53] <manish> genii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77407/
[15:54] <snyderios> liquid than search in the adept manager for "flashplugin-nonfree" and install it
[15:55] <manish> genii: i want to install the latest version abailable in net of openoffice even if thats beta. So please tell accordingly
[15:55] <tkstka> I need help.. I made sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdc1 /media/Waret2 -o defaults,umask=0 and it gives me a complaint about superblock?
[15:55] <tkstka> what do I do
[15:56] <Tm_T> tkstka: /dev/sdc1 isn't ext2 ?
[15:56] <tkstka> should be
[15:56] <tkstka> :o
[15:57] <manish> genii: can you see the pastebin please let me know as i am not sure when my computer gets disconnected
[15:58] <user6> hi guy
[15:58] <user6> s
[15:58] <user6> i got a trouble
[15:59] <genii> manish: To give you instructions on to install the latest version available of openoffice would be long and complicated, and as well only the versions which come in the repositories which are with (k)ubuntu are the supported versions
[16:00] <user6> I'm try to install kubuntu in Fujtsu Siemens Amilo A, but it stop during formatting partition....
[16:00] <genii> manish: The openoffice website has instructions if you are actually wanting to go that path however
[16:00] <tkstka> can I make cryption to my hard drives now? or do I need to format? and start all over again?
[16:00] <tkstka> ::D
[16:00] <user6> ... on HD there was a Xubuntu
[16:01] <manish> genii: ok then can you just help me solve this dependency prob. Then i will log on to the website and install the latest version
[16:01] <rmitchell> user6: did it give you any errors?
[16:04] <genii> manish: Remove or comment out for the time being the intrepid-propsed repositories. Then issue again the command of:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[16:05] <user6> rmitchell: no it stuck and remain in some point
[16:05] <user6> rmitchell: each time different....
[16:05] <rmitchell> user6: can you still boot into the Xubuntu?
[16:05] <user6> rmitchell: ahhh.... right, in a case it say "failed to create partition"
[16:06] <user6> rmitchell: i don't know.... i had to try
[16:06] <genii> tkstka: After install you cannot easily encrypt the root / only subsequent partitions or so. You want to do this part during install normally
[16:07] <rmitchell> user6: any reason you want a fresh Kubuntu install? You could install the kubuntu-desktop package on top of xubuntu
[16:07] <rmitchell> save you the trouble of an install
[16:08] <liquid> that was good to know
[16:08] <manish> genii: i cant see any of the proposed repositories in Ubuntu sofware tab of Manage repositories
[16:08] <user6> rmitchell: if xubuntu still runs...
[16:08] <manish> genii: sorry i got it
[16:09] <manish> do u want me to remove the interepid pack-ports also
[16:09] <rmitchell> user6, did it fail before formatting?
[16:09] <user6> rmitchell: but it's better to format all and reinstall....
[16:10] <user6> rmitchell: yes xubuntu fail...
[16:10] <liquid> or reburn perhaps?
[16:10] <user6> rmitchell: because HD was take from another laptop
[16:10] <rmitchell> ah
[16:10] <manish> genii: same results
[16:10] <user6> rmitchell: i think that i haad to format HD manually
[16:10] <rmitchell> user6, will it allow you to remove all of the partitions from the disk?
[16:11] <user6> rmitchell: yes
[16:11] <user6> rmitchell: no data to save
[16:11] <rmitchell> are you in a livecd?
[16:12] <user6> rmitchell: is now entering
[16:12] <tkstka> I tried to make torrent work... but it didnt it said cannot symlink /media/...
[16:13] <manish> genii: what now???
[16:15] <rmitchell> user6, I assume you're managing partitions through the installer, it may work better to gparted
[16:15] <genii> manish: Try:  sudo apt-get install -f openoffice.org
[16:16] <manish> genii: what does this do
[16:16] <jessie_morris> so I have a Sony SDT-10000 SCSI tape drive. It shows up on my SCSI controller card, but I cannot find it once I boot up the Debian Box. I'm running Etch with all updates. I already asked in Debain, but nobody answered, so I figured this would be the second best place
[16:16] <genii> manish: It attempts to fix the dependencies of a package
[16:16] <manish> the same result
[16:16] <manish> genii:
[16:17] <manish> now do i have got any other oprion
[16:17] <maxbaldwin> forces it to install, manish
[16:17] <maxbaldwin> nevermind
[16:17] <manish> can you guess why is this happening
[16:17] <maxbaldwin> download it from the site, compile it yourself?
[16:17] <manish> thanks maxbaldwin
[16:17]  * maxbaldwin shrugs
[16:18] <maxbaldwin> you can try it
[16:18] <Alex-83> Bonjour, quelqu'un parle francais ?
[16:18] <manish> i am rightnow trying to download it from the site (the deb version) will i still face this problem
[16:18] <manish> or will ti install
[16:18] <tkstka> can someone help? when I use ktorrent it doesnt let me use the partition I selected.. Says "cannot symlink"
[16:18] <maxbaldwin> !french | Alex-83
[16:18] <genii> manish: Please pastebin result of this command: apt-cache policy openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin
[16:18] <manish> maxbaldwin: please check this out V
[16:18] <simon__> can i get help with installing the kdenetwork update?
[16:19] <user6> rmitchell: i've looked for gparted but i haven't found it
[16:19] <manish> this is not for you genii. for you i am pating the output just hold on
[16:19] <maxbaldwin> do what genii wants first
[16:20] <genii> manish: I am suspecting it cannot install those other items becasue you previously manually did it not from package manager
[16:20] <user6> rmitchell: I had to download it for repositories .... in live CD?
[16:20] <manish> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77416/
[16:21] <manish> i am sorry but i dont remember
[16:21] <manish> please tell me what do i do now
[16:21] <manish> genii
[16:21] <maxbaldwin> manish: Please pastebin result of this command: apt-cache policy openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin
[16:22] <manish> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77416/
[16:22] <manish> maxbaldwin:
[16:22] <manish> i have done so
[16:22] <manish> please check that out
[16:22] <rmitchell> user6: go ahead and install it from the repo
[16:23] <genii> manish: Paste seems to indicate there are mixed versions of 3.0 and 2.4 in the repositories you are using, which is odd. However. Try install one by one.
[16:24] <manish> genii: maxbaldwin: can you take the effort to explain to me what the op means coz i am not able to understand a single line there
[16:24] <manish> how genii:
[16:24] <genii> manish: eg: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin
[16:25] <manish> should i type this command in the terminal
[16:25] <manish> genii:
[16:25] <genii> manish: In Konsole.
[16:25] <genii> manish:  Just copy from here, you don't need to retype it all
[16:25] <manish> ya done so
[16:25] <manish>  but same result
[16:25] <user6> rmitchell: done ... Now i had to parting it but I don't know how.... there's some totorial to guide me?
[16:25] <manish> genii
[16:26] <manish> how do i remove every trace of openoffice from my computer and then may be i could install fresh 3.0. will that work
[16:26] <manish> genii:
[16:26] <genii> manish: I doubt same result since it listed previously all those as "not going to be installed". The error is probably different than before but to you looks same. Please pastebin error message
[16:27] <manish> initially too it was the same : Not going to be installed
[16:27] <rmitchell> user6: does it list any partitions?
[16:27] <manish> still i will paste bin the error
[16:27] <genii> manish: No. 1 minute
[16:28] <user6> rmitchell: i describe to you my situation.... gparted report hda1 EXT3 26,75 GB , hd2 extended 1,2GB , hd5 linux-swap 1,19Gb
[16:28] <manish> k
[16:28] <manish> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77418/
[16:28] <Nece228> does kubuntu 8.10 in my amd athlon 64 3000+ 2ghz 1.5 gb ram ati radeon 9600 fly?
[16:29] <Nece228> i mean does kde 4.1 will work fast
[16:29] <genii> manish: Try just: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer=2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1
[16:29] <manish> genii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77418/
[16:29] <manish> are you sure you want me to install the previous version
[16:30] <rmitchell> user6: you can click on them in the list, then the delete icon, delete hda1 and hda2
[16:30] <manish> no worries see the output: Version '2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1' for 'openoffice.org-writer' was not found
[16:31] <manish> genii:
[16:31] <rmitchell> user6: this will destroy all data on those two partitions
[16:32] <genii> manish: The problem seems that you have manually installed ony parts of version 3, since dpkg has records of this version but cannot attribute it's origin to any known repository. this is what comes of manually messing with different versions and bypassing the package manager.
[16:32] <mcxx> hi, I'm having problems with two monitors in Kubuntu 8.04 - I didn't success with configuring them in xorg.conf so I tried xrandr. That works OK as long as I have the second (external) monitor normally, but when I rotate it 90 degrees with xrandr, the refreshing of the display is really slow (cca 3s), any idea how to fix this?
[16:32] <user6> rmitchell:  i have deleted hd1
[16:32] <user6> rmitchell: selected hd2 .... but no operation is allowed
[16:33] <manish> so what do i do now. as it is the only thing i use in my pc so i would like to have it any ways
[16:33] <manish> genii
[16:33] <rmitchell> user6: is it mounted?
[16:33] <manish> please help me resolve the issue
[16:33] <user6> i see on hd2 a lock
[16:34] <rmitchell> user6: right click it, select unmount
[16:34] <user6> rmitchell: i don't know if it mounted
[16:34] <user6> rmitchell: not allowed
[16:34] <genii> manish: You obviously previously downloaded a deb or so of version 3 earlier. Where did you put that deb file?
[16:34] <Nece228> does kubuntu 8.10 fly in my amd athlon 64 3000+ 2ghz 1.5 gb ram ati radeon 9600?
[16:35] <rmitchell> user6: open Konsole, type mount
[16:35] <manish> i  have lost it probably as i downloaded it using a friends pc
[16:35] <rmitchell> see if its listed
[16:35] <manish> so do i need to get that deb now.
[16:35] <manish> and will it solve the present issue of package manager not recognising it and will i be able to update that using package manager later on
[16:36] <genii> manish: Get the deb. Put it on your desktop. Then in Konsole to issue something to effect of:    sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/thatfilename.deb                 But put of course the actual filename there
[16:36] <manish> i cal also click on that deb so that it installs automatically right>>
[16:36] <manish> or will that make matters worse
[16:37] <user6> rmitchell: hd2 is not listed .... but i have a list of 10 dev
[16:37] <genii> manish: The output from running it in terminal will be more useful if it fails
[16:37] <user6> rmitchell: many of them are tmpfs
[16:37] <manish> k
[16:38] <linuxmce> hi, im having some major problems with linuxmce
[16:38] <manish> so is there any other way of doing it
[16:38] <genii> manish: You will NOT be able to update it from package manager later if you install it manually from deb file
[16:38] <manish> because my friend is out of station and wont be returing home for a week or so genii:
[16:38] <user6> rmitchell: now i can delete hd5
[16:38] <genii> manish: Because the deb file will not be associated as having originated in some repository that Kubuntu knows about
[16:38] <manish> ok
[16:38] <user6> rmitchell: for hd2 i can only resize
[16:39] <genii> !mce | linuxmce
[16:39] <manish> so if i type using konsole then it will associate???
[16:39] <manish> genii:
[16:39] <genii> manish: No
[16:40] <linuxmce> i have a couple questions on mce, if you can help me
[16:40] <acemo> linuxmce: try #linuxmce
[16:40] <manish> genii: as i said is there any other way of doing this as it will take real long for him to return (atleast a week)
[16:40] <genii> manish: If you install some deb file at all, whether from using dpkg in Konsole or from the graphical deb install, it will not be able ever to update it. Because the deb file is a static thing you downloaded, frozen in time, and there is no repository for the package manager to go look at to see if a newer one exists
[16:41] <linuxmce> i'm banned from the cahnnel?
[16:41] <manish> ok so how do i download it from a repository when the repository does not allow me to do so
[16:41] <genii> linuxmce: You're banned from channel of #linuxmce ?
[16:41] <user6> rmitchell: i have clear all the hard disk... it is a 1 piece of 27.95 gb unallocated
[16:41] <acemo> linuxmce: why did they ban you?
[16:42] <genii> linuxmce: Perhaps because your name is reserved on that channel
[16:42] <manish> can you suggest me someway to completely remove open office and then reinstall it using repository
[16:42] <linuxmce> im not sure? this is a fresh install and i have never tried to get into that before
[16:42] <linuxmce> i see
[16:42] <manish> and will that solve the problem
[16:42] <manish> genii:
[16:42] <linuxmce> hmm
[16:43] <linuxmce> how do i change my name? im sorry but im really new to linux
[16:44] <manish> hey genii: o got something in this path see whether it is of some assistance: /home/manish/.openoffice.org/3/user
[16:44] <genii> manish: Your package lists are in a mess because some came from repositories and others did not, and likely some packages are reported as being only partially installed or so. Try cleaning it up a bit with: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:44] <manish> there are many folders in this directory
[16:44] <woden> How do I search for packages using Adept?
[16:44] <manish> genii: do i run that now???
[16:45] <manish> genii: nothing happened
[16:45] <genii> manish: The contents of that directory are currently not relevant
[16:45] <manish> k
[16:45] <uga> guys, I'm doing some fun sysadmin work, so lets see if anybody here can help me... is there  a way to a) let a user change  the linux password through the web safely? I've seen some php script, but I'm worried that this script would be run as root..... b) share folders through the web?
[16:45] <woden> For example I want to search for sdl or libsdl, but Adept just shows programs like SDLjump or SDL Slash'EM.  I want to search all packages with sdl in the name or description, not just programs.  How do I do that besides using the terminal?
[16:45] <manish> i issued that command in the konsol but it seems nothing happened
[16:45] <manish> genii
[16:46] <uga> I want to setup this thing so that the users don't need to know anything about this box being linux
[16:46] <uga> I've setup saned and others so that they can scan and print remotely, but samba is an annoyance there (domain based network with clueless sysadmins)
[16:47] <uga> so I'd prefer sharing through webdav or similar
[16:47] <woden> Ok fine, another question.  How do I add application launchers to my KDE panel?  Like for example, Konqueror, Konsole, or any custom application I might want?
[16:48] <genii> manish: sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin
[16:48] <uga> woden: in what KDE version/panel?
[16:48] <woden> uga:  I'm using kubuntu 8.10
[16:48] <uga> woden: uhm... not sure if it worked in that version, but try drag and dropping the menu entry to the panel
[16:48] <user6> rmitchell: thank you ... byddy i have done....
[16:48] <uga> woden: it works on kde 4.2
[16:48] <user6> rmitchell:
[16:49] <uga> is there a #kubuntu-freaksysadmins maybe? =)
[16:49] <woden> uga: I tried that it doesn't work there is a red circle with a red slash through it when I try to drag it onto the panel.
[16:49] <uga> shame
[16:49] <user6> rmitchell: now i had to install from live cd or is better to istall it directly
[16:49] <user6> ?
[16:49] <uga> woden: that should work on the most recent kdes... sorry, I run svn trunk here
[16:50] <manish> genii: this is the message that is comming for all the packages i am gving you just the first line of it:
[16:50] <manish> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove openoffice.org-writer, only the config
[16:50] <manish>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[16:50] <uga> woden: right click, add widget.... application launcher
[16:50] <woden> That's a pretty basic thing don't you think?  How could THAT not work in a release version of KDE?
[16:50] <uga> woden: try that
[16:50] <uga> woden: no, it's just made more simple in the last version (dnd)
[16:50] <uga> there should be a way in your version too
[16:50] <woden> uga: I tried that it just adds the K menu.....I don't want that.  I want an actual application launcher.
[16:50] <manish> genii: now what
[16:50] <uga> woden: and sorry, but even if 4.0 was a release version, I'd not recommend anybody to run it
[16:50] <uga> woden: just like I believe it was a silly idea to release kubuntu with kde 4.1
[16:51] <uga> which was still half useable
[16:51]  * phunyguy is listening to Everyday by Dave Matthews Band on Everyday [Amarok]
[16:51] <karan> how do you format your pen drive
[16:51] <woden> uga: So what should I do to fix my system?  Can I upgrade?
[16:51] <uga> woden: I told you... right click and add widget... you sould have that option
[16:51] <uga> even on 4.1
[16:51] <uga> and htere's a widget for application runner
[16:51] <neverendingo> woden: what about right-clicking a menu entry and "add to panel"?
[16:51] <genii> manish: You should clean up now your sources.list file so it does not complain about all the duplicate entries.
[16:51] <woden> uga:  Yea, I don't see any widgets that do what I am talking about
[16:52] <woden> uga:  There is the Application Launcher but that is just the K menu....I don't want the K menu.
[16:52] <uga> ah
[16:52] <genii> manish: Then after that to try again:  sudo apt-get update                    then: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org                   once more
[16:52] <neverendingo> woden: open k-menu, select your app and right-click, select "add to panel". should work since 4.1
[16:53] <karan> how do you format your pen drive
[16:53] <uga> woden: dragging to the desktop works?
[16:53] <woden> neverendingo: yea that works thanks
[16:53] <uga> woden: also, when dragging to the panel, make sure you drag it to an empty space
[16:53] <manish> genii; how do i clean the sources list file
[16:53] <uga> not on top of the taskbar or similar
[16:54] <manish> i am not sure of which entries i need to remoce
[16:54] <manish> remove
[16:54] <manish> or deselect from the prefrences section
[16:54] <rmitchell> user6: installing from livecd is fine, if you have your partitions in order, it shouldn't be a problem
[16:55] <user6> rmitchell: i got a problem ... installing from live CD detect a strange formatting situation
[16:56] <genii> manish: OK, pastebin result of:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list                Then I will recommend what changes to make it workable
[16:56] <user6> rmitchell: now i have removed all
[16:56] <user6> no formatting
[16:56] <user6> and try to install from live CD
[16:58] <rmitchell> user6: you should be able to create new partitions from the free space
[16:58] <user6> rmitchell: its strange .... because during installation hda1 was seen like hda
[16:58] <user6> rmitchell:
[16:58] <user6> i have done
[16:58] <manish> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77426/
[16:58] <manish> genii:
[16:59] <rmitchell> hda refers to the entire drive, hda1 is a partition
[16:59] <user6> ext3 , extended and linux-swap
[16:59] <user6> extended and linux -flat from 1,5gb
[16:59] <user6> the rest for ext3
[17:00] <user6> but during installation ...ext3 =hda1 was seen like hda
[17:00] <user6> hda2 like hd1
[17:00] <user6> hda5 good
[17:00] <user6> so i have prefered to clear all
[17:00] <user6> no partition
[17:00] <user6> and now live CD seem to work
[17:01] <user6> seems
[17:01] <rmitchell> the installer must read things a little differently from gparted.. strange
[17:04] <rmitchell> user6: how's it coming/
[17:05] <manish_> genii: did you see the paste cin
[17:05] <manish_> bin
[17:06] <user6> rm
[17:06] <user6> rmitchell: quite well
[17:06] <vikram_> hi
[17:06] <rmitchell> user6: what step is it on/
[17:07] <user6> Files Coping
[17:07] <rmitchell> ah, you should be all set then
[17:08] <rmitchell> user6: enjoy your shiny new kubuntu
[17:09] <manish_> genii: did you get the URL for the paste bin
[17:10] <genii> manish: Work required me for a time. Back now and looking at pastebin
[17:11] <user6> i hope it runs
[17:11] <user6> on this aptop ... i got much problem to connect
[17:11] <user6> now i have remount two laptop in one
[17:12] <user6> piece by piece
[17:12] <user6> take together with schotch
[17:12] <user6> if it run
[17:12] <user6> then i'll add the screws
[17:13] <user6> :-)
[17:13] <manish> genii: do did you find any thing that needs to be removed
[17:14] <woden> How do I change the settings for my touchpad?
[17:17] <genii> manish:  Comment out for now with a # lines 55 through 62
[17:17] <manish> and how do i do that ... I dont know the command line tool for that
[17:17] <manish> genii:
[17:18] <genii> manish: So from Konsole:    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list                     then put a # in front of each of those lines. When done, use ctrl-x to exit, choosing Yes to save the file and Enter to select same nae to save as
[17:19] <genii> manish: Please do not keep putting only my name on one line by itself, it is annoying and unneccesary
[17:21] <genii> manish: When you are finished with the edit and back to command line:  sudo apt-get update
[17:26] <manish> genii: what next
[17:26] <genii> manish: Did it finish the update without groaning now ?
[17:27] <manish> it was updating without groaning earlier also
[17:27] <manish> the only problem was it was not installing the ooo
[17:28] <genii> Your paste earlier shows it complaining about problemmatic duplicate entries and that some lists could not be retrieved, etc. So it was NOT updating without groaning
[17:28] <genii> manish: At any rate, try now the: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[17:28] <manish> not working
[17:28] <manish> still the same results
[17:29] <manish> unmet dependencies
[17:29] <manish> so any more arrows in your quiver
[17:29] <genii> manish: Yes, one minute
[17:30] <eagles0513875> genii :) can i pm ya
[17:33] <genii> manish: Please tell what line saying "Candidate" says from: apt-cache policy openoffice.org
[17:34] <manish> genii:Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1
[17:36] <woden> So how do I add a custom launcher to the panel?
[17:37] <woden> Is kubuntu using the latest KDE 4.1.3?
[17:37] <webas> where to disable that little box that appears when i mouse over program on icons..in kmenu bottom line
[17:41] <BluesKaj> woden, yes , if you've been updating regularly , check konqueror/help/about kde
[17:41] <webas> :\
[17:42] <woden> BluesKaj:  Is there any way to update kubunt to the beta 4.2?  is that even advisable?
[17:42] <genii> manish: What says: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org | grep 2.4.1-11
[17:43] <manish> genii: No such file or directory
[17:43] <BluesKaj> woden, i'd wait , 4.1.3 is still not 100% stable
[17:44] <damian_> hey hi hello :)
[17:44] <|DS|> hai
[17:44] <BluesKaj> woden, so 4.2 would be even less so
[17:44] <damian_> I'm from Poland :)