[16:47] <MonkeyDust> tking  use windows in vbox to use dreamweaver
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> or use bluefish
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> or kompozer
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> etc
[16:48] <manski> ActionParsnip: when I tried to install Ubuntu, I get "The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 139).
[16:48] <Scrooge> Hey, I had another doubt, how do I edit the labels on the top menu in my Ubuntu 11.10, such as "Turn Off" for "Shut Down...". Which file do I edit?
[16:48] <_riz_> anyone got a suggestion for a channel I can go to with questions about preseeding?
[16:48] <colin_> i cant even edit the menu
[16:48] <arey_> Everytime I install libstl-dev, I get this error: libsdl1.2-dev : Depends: libpulse-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> manski: could use the minimal ISO and install from the web :)
[16:48] <Heridan> Hi. I have a little problem with ubuntu 12.04 and gnome-session-fallback (on an Asus Notebook): In the top right corner I cant see my battery power status where it should be... If I try to change the settings for this in the System configuration it won't save the values I set. Can anyone help me with this?
[16:48] <mbeierl> tking, you might also want to try over at #winehq once you've checked out the appdb
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> colin_: what menu?
[16:48] <oldschool> hi whats a good Video thumbnail generator to use in ubuntu
[16:48] <manski> actionparsnip: where do I get this?
[16:48] <colin_> places
[16:48] <marco> there's a very good html editor that is not very popular called BlueGriffon
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | manski
[16:49] <manski> thanks, I will try this
[16:49] <bjrohan> I could use some help with my network connections via various desktops. I messed something up
[16:49] <Shano56> okay i have one more question, I got the ubuntu instalation on the cd, and its on the installtion screen. I currently have a windows 7 partition and a OEM recovery partition. I already have everything i want off of it, so i want to compeletely wipe the hard drive clean and install ubuntu, so there is only ubuntu MBR, files, and partitions on the laptop. How would I go about doing this? Last
[16:49] <Shano56> time I tried running the installer, it just automatically added it alongside windows, and made it a dualboot. I dont want that
[16:49] <marco> tking: there's a very good html editor that is not very popular called BlueGriffon
[16:50] <FireAllianceNX> Just installed ubuntu on VMWare, but the resolution is super high, where can I change it with keyboard shortcuts? I can't click very well lol
[16:50] <tking> macro thanks, i am familiar with it
[16:50] <Scrooge> Shano56, i think the installer asks you whether to install alongside or remove Windows and install only Ubuntu
 seen it appdb but my dreamweaver is there
[16:51] <bjrohan> I was running Ubuntu wtih stock Unity (uity 3D doesn't work on my laptop). I installed Enlightenmen for poops and giggles, which I installed connman as suggested. I went back to Unity, and no internet, so I tried reinstalling network manager, that is where it has all gone awry
[16:51] <Shano56> Scrooge, okay i didn't see that last time. Now that i think about it, it was kubuntu that i installed last time.
[16:51] <Shano56> i will see if it asks :p
[16:51] <arey_> Everytime I install libstl-dev, I get this error: libsdl1.2-dev : Depends: libpulse-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I have tried apt-get clean, dpkg --configure -a and apt-get instal -f. But no luck. Can anybody provide me with a default sources.list
[16:51] <Shano56> it gives the option try ubuntu and install ubuntu...im clicking install ubuntu
[16:51] <tking> mbeierl my version of DW is on the site but I still get errors installing it
[16:52] <BluesKaj_> arey_, run sudo dpkg --configure -a , it might help
[16:52] <glitsj16> oldschool: ffmpegthumbnailer comes to mind ... have you already tried something?
[16:52] <bjrohan> I have uninstalled connman, and reinstalled network manager, which appears to work fine in enlightenmnet, but NOT in unity. In unity it says I am connected both via ethernet and wireless, yet I can not get out onto the internet via browser, Konversation, etc. any help?
[16:52] <Konichua> Hello! I have a problem with my ubuntu. Well, it isn't a problem as such..
[16:52] <Konichua> How do I bind keys?
[16:52] <Orpheon> I'm having trouble compiling the Crystal Space 3d engine. The tutorials and readmes and stuff say that one should first execute "./configure" and then "make", followed by executing a demo program. Here's the log of the configure; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1054397/ and as for the log of make, here is what fitted in the console log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1054435/ Any ideas?
[16:52] <arey_> BluesKaj_: done,it doesn't do anything :/
[16:52] <Scrooge> even if it doesn't Shano56, while alloting partitions, just format the partition on which Windows is installed and overwrite it with Ubuntu :)
[16:53] <Konichua> I am on 11.04 I think, maybe 11.10 or 12.04
[16:53] <Scrooge> got is Shano56?
[16:53] <Scrooge> got it, i meant... :P
[16:54] <zallx> any sony ps vita sdk for linux ?
[16:54] <zallx> howto port it from win to linux ?
[16:54] <oldschool> glitsj16 ffmpegthumbnailer yeah lil hard to use i was trying to install thumbnail me but wont install
[16:54] <BluesKaj_> ok, I posted it just you explained  what you had done. arey_  ...try sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[16:54] <Shano56> Scrooge, okay, do i do that after the installation ? :)
[16:55] <Scrooge> while installation, it will ask you to allot partitions, may i know, whether it is the first/second time that you are dual booting?
[16:56] <rohan1> sorry, if anyone responded to my plight for networking, I lost my connection
[16:56] <Shano56> this is the second time, but it is on a different computer
[16:57] <BluesKaj_> arey_, if all else fails , check the /var/log files for the dependency errors and remove the dependency conflicts with , sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[16:57] <Shano56> lets just say dual-booting wasn't a good experience :p
[16:57] <Scrooge> that's fine, so it asks you to either allocate space automatically(not recommended) or you allocate manually, which i recommend
[16:57] <arey_> BluesKaj_: I tried that as well. No luck. Seemas that the problem occurs only while installing libsdl-dev and related packages. I have just installed synaptic and ack-grep without problems
[16:58] <arey_> BluesKaj_: ok, looking in that also
[16:58] <Scrooge> did u see that option when u dual booted for the first time, Shano56?
[16:58] <Shano56> I don't recall, but it was a tramatic experience that i want to put behind me :P
[16:58] <Scrooge> ya, it usually isn't if you don't have a guide besides you to help you out with these issues.... hahahaa :D
[16:59] <Scrooge> never mind, you'll master it with a few careful dual-boots :)
[16:59] <colin_> ActionParsnip it didnt work at all, its just screwed things up
[16:59] <arey_> BluesKaj_: is there a specific file I should look into /var/log, there are a lot of files
[16:59] <colin_> now i gotta remove it
[16:59] <Shano56> hehe :D hmm internet doesnt want to connect
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> colin_: then remove the PPA and remove the package, hardly screwed up is it..
[16:59] <Shano56> guess i can install updates after instalation
[16:59] <colin_> i donno how
[16:59] <Scrooge> if i got u right, ur installation is in progress, right Shano56 ?
[17:00] <Natherul> hey all, anyone got any idea on why sometimes ubuntu refuse to ifentify mouseclicks, I can move the mouse but not click on anything....
[17:00] <Scrooge> is it sometimes Natherul or everytime?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> colin_: sudo apt-get --purge remove oracle-java7-installer; sudo apt-get install ppa-purge; sudo ppa-purge ppa:webupd8team/java
[17:00] <Shano56> not yet, i tried connecting ethernet cable to connect to the internet, however it doesn't wnat to connect. probably doesn't like my router :p
[17:00] <Natherul> well, not all the time but it happens frequently
[17:01] <Natherul> for example, its happened right now -.-
[17:01] <Scrooge> need not connect it now, Shano56
[17:01] <tking> someone using a windows email me a ms word file .doc but I can open it, pls help
[17:01] <colin_> all i wanna do is make  a folder
[17:01] <colin_> jeeze
[17:01] <Natherul> does that make any sense to you Scrooge?
[17:01] <Scrooge> if it happens, occasionally, it "might" be a problem with your touchpad, is there anyway you can verify?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> colin_: you can make a folder with mkdir, or sudo mkdir    if it is outside your home
[17:02] <Natherul> well its not a touchpad, its a cyborg R.A.T. 7 mouse... and its no problem in windows (yes i dualboot)
[17:02] <colin_> yeh but then ive gotta put stuff in it
[17:03] <colin_> just wanna copy and paste a folder
[17:03] <Shano56> Scrooge: i got 3 options, im ignoring the first bcuz i dont want that, last 2 options: erase disk and install ubuntu or something else
[17:03] <FireAllianceNX> How do I change the screen resolution for the system default?
[17:03] <colin_> i tried it with a file yesterday, and it screwed up the name
[17:03] <Scrooge> Shano56, the 2 option, erase disk and install ubuntu
[17:03] <Shano56> okay :)
[17:03] <Scrooge> Shano56, wait
[17:03] <Scrooge> Warning: It will erase Windows, are you sure?
[17:04] <Shano56> yes. fk windows :p
[17:04] <Scrooge> the disk will be completely empty
[17:04] <Scrooge> fine, go ahead
[17:04] <Scrooge> Ubuntu is all yours!!!
[17:04] <Shano56> okay, 2 partitions will be deleted, use advanced partitioning tool for more control
[17:04] <Orpheon> !ubot
[17:04] <Shano56> i got everything i needed off the disk :p
[17:04] <Orpheon> !ubottu
[17:05] <colin_> i cant even close windows, cuz top bit gets hidden below panel
[17:05] <colin_> very annoying
[17:05] <glitsj16> oldschool: where did you get thumbnail package? can't find it in ubuntu 12.04 .. also wondering if you're looking for a standalone thumbnailer or to get it with nautilus or any other file manager you use
[17:05] <BluesKaj_> arey_, systemlog
[17:05] <Scrooge> Natherul, couldn't search your problem on the net, did you get any clue?
[17:05] <nathali> i have some problems with installing wi-fi card...
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> nathali: what is the issue?
[17:06] <Shano56> Scrooge, should i delete /dev/sda1 and 2 or will the installer do it automatically
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> colin_: hold ALT and you can drag windows from anywhere
[17:06] <Shano56> sda1 is the recovery partition and sda2 is the windoze one
[17:06] <Scrooge> i hope there is checkbox where u ask it to format the partition, right?
[17:06] <Natherul> Scrooge: No idea, and its been bugging me for some time, was not a problem 2 version of ubuntu back, now and the last version though -.- And i really want to know more about ubuntu and linux so I could eventually move from windows... but I need a worrking mouse to learn anyway -.-
[17:07] <Shano56> there is checkboxes to format, theres also an option to delete, which i assume will delete the partition
[17:07] <tking> someone using a windows email me a ms word file .doc but I can open it, pls help
[17:07] <Scrooge> you can delete the partition, which would make it free, yes, delete the partition, Shano56
[17:08] <Shano56> okay
[17:08] <Natherul> Scrooge: and what puzzles me is that its actually letting me move the cursor, but just wont let me click something... so the mouse is sending signals at least.... -.-
[17:08] <arey_> BluesKaj_: ok, looking. By the way, does this info help in zeroing the prolem: http://pastebin.com/XdEh6D6g ?
[17:08] <oldschool> glitsj16 i got it from here http://www.thumbnailme.com/ its not in ubuntu 12.04 download it its a deb
[17:08] <Scrooge> what i wonder is why is happening only occasionally and not always
[17:08] <d1gital> I just tried to extract something via drag-n-drop from file-roller to pcmanfm, and now my cursor is stuck in a dragging state, and I can't use it to click.  I really don't want to restart X and all of my applications right now... is there a way to fix the cursor without restarting X?
[17:09] <Shano56> Scrooge should i create a new partition or let the installer do that
[17:09] <Natherul> Scrooge: indeed, but once it happens i pretty much have to alt+f4 out of the current window to get back click functions... such is the case as of right now
[17:09] <Scrooge> create a partition for "/", "/home", "/boot", Shano56
[17:09] <Scrooge> and a "swap" area too
[17:10] <Scrooge> huh, not getting you Natherul , how do you get it back to work?
[17:10] <starlocke> anyone want to suggest an "office worker friendly" name for a file server?
[17:10] <theadmin> starlocke: file_server
[17:10] <glitsj16> oldschool: looking around there, i'll report back in a minute
[17:11] <d1gital> theadmin beat me to it.
[17:11] <theadmin> starlocke: Seriously though, this sounds like a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:11] <Natherul> Scrooge: I can get the clicks to work again by closing the current active window.... I also just relised that it seems to be another problem at the same time... I cant switch what window is active atm with alt+tab like i normally can either....
[17:11] <oldschool> glitsj16 ok thanks
[17:11] <starlocke> perhaps... i suppose it's not strictly an Ubuntu problem.
[17:12] <d1gital> for the logs:   `killall file-roller` did the trick.
[17:12] <Scrooge> so "Alt+ tab" does not work when the mouse-clicks don't work, right?
[17:12] <Natherul> Scrooge: so it would seem
[17:12] <Scrooge> now this is interesting, Natherul
[17:12] <Scrooge> what do these share in them?
[17:13] <Natherul> Scrooge: it seems like ubutu has placed some kind of lock on whats the active window or something
[17:13] <guntbert> !enter | Scrooge
[17:14] <Scrooge> can you just to switch workspace and see if these mouse-clicks work, Natherul ?
[17:14] <Isarra> Should booting ubuntu from a live cd take much longer than booting xubuntu from a live cd?
[17:15] <Natherul> Scrooge: how do you want me to do that? since alt tab is not working.... jsut also noticed that clicks are allowed inside the active window... I cant press the maximize button or close on the window but I CAN select text in the chat with the mouse....
[17:15] <theadmin> Isarra: Not too much. The graphical environment may start longer, but "boot" times as such should be about the same
[17:15] <Scrooge> try "Ctrl + Alt + right/left navigation key" to switch workspaces
[17:16] <glitsj16> oldschool: i tested the 64bit version, installed ok here (and it works) .. did you get any error messages while installing? and you have the correct .deb for your system (32bit or 64bit)?
[17:16] <DCheck2> hello, i have been having some problems getting a computer to boot from cd, i have just downloaded the plop manager since upon boot i get the message the bootmgr is missing, are there any other tools i could possibly need and could all the isos be loaded to one disc?
[17:16] <Natherul> Scrooge: it worked... but I could not click anywhere
[17:16] <melkor> I'm using gnome-shell, and I can no longer see files on the desktop or right click to get a context menu.
[17:16] <Crarda> Hello, I'm a new Ubuntu user. Could someone help me install my HP Printer?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> melkor: press ALT+F2 and run:  nautilus -1
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> -q   sorry
[17:17] <Isarra> theadmin: Okay, what would cause the graphical environment to just not start?
[17:17] <Isarra> It started yesterday.
[17:17] <Scrooge> does the right click work, Natherul ?
[17:17] <FireAllianceNX> Hmmm  how do I change the screen resolution for all users?
[17:17] <theadmin> Isarra: From the same CD?
[17:17] <Jordan_U> Crarda: Usually you just plug it in and it will work. I'm guessing though that that wasn't the case or you probably wouldn't be asking :)
[17:18] <theadmin> FireAllianceNX: xorg.conf is usually the answer for system-wide X configuration.
[17:18] <FireAllianceNX> oh boy :/
[17:18] <DCheck2> Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS:
[17:18] <Natherul> Scrooge: nope, the mouse buttons seems to only register inside the chat window atm, nothing outside of it works
[17:18] <Scrooge> Crarda, if you are using Ubuntu 11.10 there is a "Printers" option in the top-left menu
[17:18] <FireAllianceNX> was hoping not have to edit that. thanks
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> DCheck2: which client?
[17:18] <Crarda> My printer is supported by hplib but it doesn't show up in the driver list. http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_3070_b611_series.html
[17:18] <DCheck2> ubuntu
[17:18] <Isarra> theadmin: I have no idea if it was the same one; all I really know is that xubuntu was fine, a ubuntu that may or may not have been the same one was fine, and windows just crapped out.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> DCheck2: no, which IRC client
[17:18] <melkor> ActionParsnip: that closed my nautilus window, but I still cannot see files on the desktop
[17:18] <DCheck2> freenode
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> melkor: run it again
[17:18] <Isarra> Except now windows is magically working again, so uh.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> DCheck2: no, the client is the program you are connecting to freenode with, freenode is the server
[17:19] <melkor> cool now they're back.
[17:19] <theadmin> FireAllianceNX: Several graphic card drivers, such as the propertiary NVidia and ATI drivers, come with tools to generate xorg.conf (nvidia control thingy and amdcccle), if you have those you may be in luck
[17:19] <DCheck2> webchat.freenode.net
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> melkor: yep, nautilus draws the desktop, it crashed so it restarted
[17:19] <DCheck2> ie browser
[17:19] <FireAllianceNX> @theadmin: I'm on a VMWare
[17:19] <tking> pls how do i open .doc file in Linux ?
[17:19] <FireAllianceNX> @theadmin: uhhh I'm using***
[17:19] <tking> it keeps crashing
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> DCheck2: ahh, thats better. I believe there is an options section in the top left..
[17:20] <oldschool> glitsj16 i useing ubuntu 12.04 64bits let me see if am useing the correct .deb
[17:20] <DCheck2> yeah i tried that, thats what i copy pasted i forget how to do commands on irc
[17:20] <Crarda> It can't find a driver online and it's not listed under models.
[17:20] <DCheck2> i think i got it to work
[17:21] <Scrooge> Natherul, try playing with the "Mouse and Touchpad" option in "System Settings", that's all I can say for the moment. Will let you know soon if get to know something different.
[17:21] <Shano56> Scrooge which irc client do you use :)
[17:21] <Scrooge> XChat
[17:21] <Shano56> hopefully not xchat?
[17:21] <Shano56> damn!
[17:21] <Papa-Smurf> Hi Guys
[17:21] <Scrooge> :P why?
[17:22] <oldschool> glitsj16 no i am useing the i386 deb lol were did you find the 64bit one
[17:22] <sh4rm4> how can i disable the network manager in 10.10 ?
[17:22] <Papa-Smurf> Where is the startup script for Lightdm?????
[17:22] <Shano56> I just didnt like it :p probably because i wasn't used to it
[17:22] <Shano56> i love mirc, but its for windows not linux :(
 hopefully not xchat?
[17:22] <Orpheon> what's wrong with xchat?
[17:23] <Orpheon> (using it)
[17:23] <Crarda> Any idea on how I can find the driver for my deskjet_3070_b611_series?.... it's covered under hplib but I don't know how to install it.
[17:23] <Scrooge> I works very well with me, I like it! Which one do use for Ubuntu?
[17:23] <FireAllianceNX> hmmm is xorg.conf moved?
[17:23] <theadmin> Crarda: sudo apt-get install hplip
[17:23] <melkor> FireAllianceNX: removed
[17:23] <glitsj16> oldschool: heh, it's on the site, you need to click the x64 folder
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: runs in Wine, Irssi has scripting ability (even more so) than mirc
[17:23] <theadmin> FireAllianceNX: It's under /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- but it's not present by default.
[17:23] <FireAllianceNX> oy
[17:23] <Shano56> I will try wine. I have nothing against xchat, I'm just used to mirc
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> FireAllianceNX: its just not default installed, if one exists though it will be obeyed
[17:24] <Shano56> i never tried xchat on ubuntu, maybe it will be better than on windows
[17:24] <oldschool> glitsj16 will check right now
[17:24] <Shano56> or maybe i will just have to get used to it :p
[17:24] <Mandalord> Shano56: how about pidgin?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: what is it you like in Mirc?
[17:24] <Scrooge> so which one do use for Ubuntu, Shano56 ?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Mandalord: gotta love pidgin :)
[17:24] <Shano56> i dont have ubuntu yet Scrooge! its installing now :p
[17:24] <FireAllianceNX> Well then I have no idea how to create one to manipulate the system default screen resolution. lol
[17:24] <Crarda> @theadmin I've installed it, but it still can't find a driver for my printer.
[17:24] <Scrooge> oh yes!
[17:25] <Shano56> Haven't tried pidgin, do you like it Mandalord
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: what is in mirc that you use?
[17:25] <Shano56> Idk what exactly i like about mirc, maybe im just comfortable with it
[17:25] <Pici> !best
[17:25] <glitsj16> oldschool: http://netcologne.dl.sourceforge.net/project/thumbnailme/Linux/Debian/x64/Thumbnailme_2.1_amd64.deb in case you missed it (i have seriously customized my browser, so i might have another 'view' on that page as yourself)
[17:25] <Scrooge> hope there are no issues till now, Shano56, are there?
[17:25] <BluesKaj_> arey_, why are you installing libpulse-dev , is there some special device you want to configure with pulseaudio ?
[17:25] <L3top> FireAllianceNX: Xorg -configure        should spit one out into ~/xorg.conf.new
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: I'd try some native irc clients, there are quite a few
[17:25] <Mandalord> Shano56: love pidgin so much, work well with yahoo, gtalk and irc:D
[17:25] <arey_> BluesKaj_: I am trying to install libsdl-dev
[17:26] <Orpheon> (like xchat)
[17:26] <FireAllianceNX> Nah, no command found
[17:26] <L3top> FireAllianceNX: you will need to stop x to do that
[17:26] <Shano56> Scrooge i dont think there are any problems...laptop just turned off, hopefully normal D:
[17:26] <arey_> BluesKaj_: but while installing it I get this eror:Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libsdl1.2-dev : Depends: libpulse-dev but it
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Mandalord: I only use it for IRC but I used it waaay back when it was Gaim, it's habit now. I SSH home and use irssi from work
[17:26] <Scrooge> good luck, here you go!
[17:26] <Shano56> hope it didn't die, i had to hack a new d/c jack on it which has given me problems before
[17:26] <arey_> BluesKaj_: so just tried installing libpulse-dev. But the error lop never ends
[17:26] <Shano56> ooh installation complete! rebooting now :_
[17:26] <Shano56> :)
[17:26] <arey_> :/
[17:27] <Shano56> ActionParsnip, i will try them all!
[17:27] <Rujaun> Hello all. I'm ditching my windows 7 becuase of lamp requirements. I have worked om Ubuntu a bit. Any tips?
[17:27] <Shano56> does xchat have the ability to join all favorites at once?
[17:27] <FireAllianceNX> I think I will just leave the login screen at that 5k x 4k resolution... lol I don't understand the system well enough. Thanks tho!
[17:27] <Shano56> hey Rujaun, just switching to ubuntu from windows 7 now  ;)
[17:27] <L3top> xserver-xorg-core would have to be installed FireAllianceNX... but the command will be found.
[17:28] <Rujaun> Shano56 Cool =)
[17:28] <Crarda> Blah I guess I'll have to return to windows to get this stuff printed.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: may as well, they are free :)
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: irssi can join a list of channels at ogin
[17:29] <Shano56> can it connect to different servers at login as well?
[17:29] <theadmin> Shano56: Sure
[17:29] <Shano56> i got some channels on abjects and some on efnet as well
[17:29] <Scrooge> Hey does anybody know how do i change the labels in the top-menu in Ubuntu 11.10, like changing "Shut Down..." to "Turn Off" or something else?
[17:29] <bekor>  hi, anyone here using ubuntu 12.04 with xfce?
[17:29] <Shano56> Hmm seems like it froze on Asking all remaining process to terminate...
[17:30] <JLuc> ubuntu  install has set some special bit on the windows partition and i cannot defrag it anymore
[17:30] <BluesKaj_> arey_, I don't see  libsdl-dev listed in synaptic , unless it's a ppa you're trying to install from , but I do see libsdl-console-dev listed.
[17:30] <JLuc> is that the way it has to be ?
[17:30] <theadmin> bekor: Just ask your question. Also, there's #xubuntu for Ubuntu with Xfce specifically (though most questions will be answered here as well)
[17:31] <Rujaun> Who uses Ubuntu without Unity?
[17:31] <samster34> plenty of people, apparently it's cool to not like unity :)
[17:31] <theadmin> Rujaun: WAY many people -- I think a more appropriate question is, who uses Ubuntu WITH Unity?
[17:31] <OerHeks> !nounity
[17:32] <Rujaun> theadmin: So you use gnome 3?
[17:32]  * OerHeks uses Unity with a fast SSD
[17:32] <theadmin> Rujaun: Meh, I'm an Xfce person myself. I also used MATE at some point, but I find Xfce more functional while still retaining the Gnome 2 style and philosophy.
[17:33] <Rujaun> theadmin: I must say gnome 3 is a bit overdoen
[17:33] <Rujaun> done*
[17:33] <colin_> me rujuan
[17:33] <colin_> i use gnome2
[17:33] <theadmin> Well to be honest polling is offtopic here, this is a support channel
[17:33] <Rujaun> colin_ Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:33] <nelson777br> hello, what exactly ubuntu does when we select the option "securely remove drive" ? how can I do this from command line ?
[17:34] <colin_> yh
[17:34] <Scrooge> nelson777br, which version of Ubuntu do you use?
[17:34] <theadmin> nelson777br: sudo eject /dev/sd...
[17:35] <Scrooge> when does it asks "Securely"?
[17:35] <Shano56> hehe all booted into ubuntu!
[17:35] <Shano56> time to find a irc client :D
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> !irc
[17:35] <Scrooge> Congo, Shano56 !
[17:35] <nelson777br> Scrooge: 12.04
[17:36] <llutz> nelson777br: sudo sync && sudo umount /mountpoint
[17:36] <Scrooge> nelson777br, when does it ask you to "Securely remove drive"?
[17:36] <nelson777br> theadmin: it can't be sudo anything, 'cause it doesn't ask for password
[17:36] <nelson777br> llutz: it can't be sudo anything, 'cause it doesn't ask for password
[17:36] <theadmin> nelson777br: It doesn't use sudo, it uses the crazy dbus authentication mechanism (ConsoleKit or whatnot), but that's how you'd do it with commandline. Also see "fusermount".
[17:36] <nelson777br> I want to do it in a script
[17:37] <colin_> dam it
[17:37] <nelson777br> theadmin: will take a look
[17:37] <colin_> java -jar abc.jar wont work
[17:37] <Scrooge> i think "gvfs-mount -u /dev/<device name>" will work
[17:37] <colin_> it doesnt know what java to use
[17:37] <Monotoko> os[Linux 2.6.32-41-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[4 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 5.8GB, 64.8% free] disk[Total: 408.0GB, 84.2% free] video[1002:68f9] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]
[17:37] <Monotoko> oops
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> colin_: sudo update-alternatives --config java       and you can set it
[17:38] <colin_> i thnk that command before messed it all up
[17:38] <zallx> can i wine sony dev suite studio for psvita ? it use simuklator and usb ?
[17:38] <colin_> says none
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> colin_: that command will give you the list of registered Java's and you can choose the one you want
[17:39] <Shano56> any graphics driver i need to install ?
[17:39] <colin_> its already installed, why install again
[17:39] <theadmin> zallx: Probably not, Wine isn't too great with external hardware.
[17:39] <colin_> doesnt make sense
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: what video chip do you use?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> colin_: you aren't installing anything
[17:39] <Shano56> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[17:40] <Shano56> this is the laptop http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/C650/C655D-S5041
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Shano56: use the additional drivers app and it will install the driver for you
[17:40] <colin_> i did that command , says no alterantwives
[17:40] <zallx> colin_: u can install something with wine ?
[17:40] <colin_> wine is just another headache
[17:40] <zallx> no
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> colin_: then you can reinstall the openjava package and it should add itself
[17:40] <colin_> but maybe
[17:40] <zallx> its okey just wont let u adress hw
[17:40] <samster34> I can't boot ubuntu without specifying the "noapic" kernel boot option on any of my computers...does this mean anything? should I be worried? or are intel chipsets just that way...
[17:41] <colin_> ill try that
[17:41] <colin_> wine might be a good idea
[17:41] <Shano56> Hmm, ActionParsnip it says no proprietary drivers are in use on the system
[17:41] <colin_> can i use netbeans in wine?
[17:41] <theadmin> colin_: What's the point? There's a Linux version.
[17:42] <colin_> javafx isnt good enough yet
[17:43] <colin_> cant install open java
[17:43] <oldschool> glitsj16 its not working for me caues the i386 is install but not working am now i cant install the 64 bits one how would i remove the i386 one useing terminal
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !java
[17:43] <colin_>  sudo apt-get install openjava
[17:43] <colin_> doesnt work
[17:43] <nelson777br> Scrooge, llutz, theadmin: thnx for your help
[17:44] <genii-around> oldschool: apt-get install packagenename:i386  ( or :amd64 )
[17:45] <glitsj16> oldschool: 'sudo apt-get purge thumbnailme' to get rid of the i386 one and 'sudo dpkg -i <path/to/64bit.deb>' to try with the 64bit
[17:45] <genii-around> oldschool: That installs either 32 or 64 bit. To remove, apt-get remove packagename:i386 ( or :amd64)
[17:45] <genii-around> ( with sudo in both cases of course )
[17:45] <oldschool> glitsj16 that to remove program or install program i need to remove
[17:45] <oldschool> ok
[17:45] <glitsj16> :)
[17:46] <Mr> hello people, can you help me to install widelands? build 17, im using [12.04]. i just dont get it, what to do.
[17:46] <Mr> http://wl.widelands.org/wiki/DownloadPage/#linux
[17:46] <glitsj16> oldschool: you double-clicked when installing the first time i guess, it's easier to see any installation problems from commandline with that second one
[17:47] <oldschool> ok
[17:48] <genii-around> Mr: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:widelands-dev/widelands-daily
[17:49] <oldschool> glitsj16 am getting this here
[17:49] <oldschool> •Emmanuel_Chanel• Unable to locate package Thumbnailme_2.1_i386.deb
[17:49] <oldschool> •Emmanuel_Chanel• Couldn't find any package by regex 'Thumbnailme_2.1_i386.deb'
[17:49] <Mr> and this is the official build 17?
[17:49] <Natherul> Scrooge: I am now in windows since my raid is about to start, but I found some additional information that might be of relevance, http://askubuntu.com/questions/112547/i-cant-switch-from-one-window-to-another    any way to get completly rid of compiz?
[17:49] <FireAllianceNX> what are we raiding today? ^^
[17:49] <genii-around> Mr: Seeing as the PPA is labelled "daily" this would be whatever the most latest is
[17:49] <ironhalik> Guys - can I use ddrescue on a directory?
[17:49] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[17:49] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ???
[17:50] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Why am I called on this channel???
[17:50] <Mr> genii-around: ok nice i know how to install ppa, thx
[17:50] <glitsj16> oldschool: take it from the top ... first: sudo apt-get purge thumbnailme
[17:50] <Emmanuel_Chanel> oldschool: Why?
[17:50] <genii-around> Mr: After adding the PPA ny the command I gave, it will be available from Software Center etc
[17:50] <genii-around> Mr: You're welcome
[17:51] <oldschool> sorry about that
[17:51] <Mr> genii-around: i just don't shure if this is the uptodate like th 17 buuild, gracias
[17:51] <Scrooge> to be easy and simple, go to Software Center, type compiz, remove the "ticked" ones!
[17:52] <Scrooge> but is that the problem, Natherul ?
[17:52] <Mr> genii-around: when i install trough softwarecenter, its just build 16, i allready did that.
[17:52] <colin_> how  much space does wine take up
[17:53] <Natherul> Scrooge: its worth a shot, what they describe on that there webpage resembles what I have as well apart from that I cant click another window to later get it as fokus.... so it seems worth a shot to see if it is compiz that makes the trouble :P
[17:53] <Scrooge> try logging in a different theme at boot, Natherul , by changing the theme, at log-in screen, hope you are aware of how to do that, aren't you?
[17:53] <glitsj16> oldschool: no worries, let us know when you are ready to install the 64bit version .. it's crucial in this step to feed the command with the exact path of Thumbnailme_2.1_amd64.deb, otherwise it will not find it .. that's the logic
[17:54] <iceroot> colin_: ~20mb
[17:54] <Natherul> Scrooge: indeed i know how to do that, I never liked unity, but the same error is in gnome 3 -.- those are however the only ones I have tried
[17:54] <oldschool> ok
[17:54] <Scrooge> the problem persists in both the themes, right?
[17:55] <genii-around> Mr: The filenames at that PPA https://launchpad.net/~widelands-dev/+archive/widelands-daily indicate version 17
[17:55] <Shano56> hmm 279 updates nice :p
[17:55] <Natherul> both the 12.04 normal theme and in gnome 3, yes
[17:55] <Scrooge> then try removing compiz as they said, anyway we don't have a better solution
[17:56] <Natherul> Scrooge: will try it after the raid tonight, and if everything screws up I can always just reinstall wubi :P no biggie :D thanks for the help anyway :D
[17:56] <Scrooge> oh sure Natherul !
[17:57] <glitsj16> oldschool: ok, as example .. 'sudo dpkg -i $HOME/Desktop/Thumbnailme_2.1_amd64.deb' will try to install it if you downloaded it to ~/Desktop .. the $HOME is a shortcut to your home/<username> ..
[17:57] <glitsj16> oldschool: do you know where you downloaded it?
[17:59] <amazing> hey is there a support channel just for gnome (classic)? cause gnome classic is so amazing-backfall that i have to go there. :P
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> amazing: its in the repos, so is supported here
[18:00] <amazing> ActionParsnip: Ok i understand, thanks for the information.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> amazing: :D
[18:01] <nickoe> is ubuntu.com down?
[18:01] <Aster> How do I log someone out via SSH?
[18:01] <nickoe> logout
[18:01] <tyler_d> Aster: last | less
[18:01] <Aster> tyler_d, what?
[18:02] <tyler_d> Aster: get the tty, then do ps aux | grep for the tty
[18:02] <Aster> nickoe, no, that logs the current user out.
[18:02] <tyler_d> Aster: then kill -9 on the pid of the tty
[18:02] <Aster> How do I get the tty?
[18:02] <nickoe> Aster, yes, was that not desired?
[18:02] <tyler_d> Aster: by typing last | less in a console
[18:02] <Aster> nickoe, someone usually means not me.
[18:02] <tyler_d> Aster: or alternately `w`
[18:04] <nownot> looking on assistance on creating  a udf 2.5 iso, can someone lend me a hand?
[18:04] <Aster> It says that the user isn‘t logged in.
[18:04] <Aster> But when I try to delete it, it tells me that it IS logged in.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> nownot: ISO of what?
[18:05] <Aster> Got it to work.
[18:05] <Aster> Thanks anyways,
[18:05] <nownot> ActionParsnip: i have a blu ray structure id like to turn into an iso
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> nownot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1824768
[18:06] <micr0be> Hi there.. Since yesterday, my login screen is restarting while i try to enter my password to start a session
[18:08] <rhizmoe> is it basically impossible to change NotifyOSD notification timeouts to anything less than 10sec?
[18:08] <rhizmoe> notify-send -t doesn't have any effect on precise
[18:08] <micr0be> i tried to use "dpkg-reconfigure-gdm", i tried to power-off, remove battery, deleted Xorg.conf , ... But i'm still stuck at login screen
[18:09] <rhizmoe> micr0be: *while* you're typing your pw?
[18:09] <samster34> I can't boot ubuntu without specifying the "noapic" kernel boot option on any of my computers...does this mean anything? should I be worried? or are intel chipsets just that way...
[18:10] <Papa> hello guys does anyone know here how to overclock nvidia 7300 gt ?
[18:10] <genii-around> !info nvclock
[18:10] <micr0be> rhizmoe: when i press"login" after i have tiped my password
[18:10] <Papa> do u know how to oc it in windoze 7 :P
[18:11] <genii-around> Papa: That's not a question for this channel, try ##windows for that
[18:11] <samster34> rivatuner (does that still exist?) nvidia inspector
[18:11] <Papa> do u give me more info abt ocing?
[18:11] <blitzkrieg766>  /join ##freebsd
[18:11] <blitzkrieg766> XD
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Papa: if youuse the coolbits option in xorg.conf it opens up more options in nvidia-settings and you can overclock
[18:12] <samster34> ActionParsnip: he wants win7 though
[18:12] <Papa> hey i don't have any cooling soln
[18:12] <rhizmoe> micr0be: select a different wm (the gear icon)
[18:12] <Papa> i feel my cpu and gpu needs to be oced
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> asherkin: win7 what?
[18:13] <Papa> this card is very old google is not giving me any good links
[18:13] <rhizmoe> google is a much better source of info for that than #ubuntu
[18:13] <samster34> Papa: I'm not sure how much overclocking headroom there is on a 7300...
[18:13] <oCean> Papa: this channel is specifically for ubuntu, not windows of hardware support
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> samster34: sorry,, win7 what?
[18:13] <samster34> ActionParsnip: he's asking how to oc it on windows :)
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> samster34: oic
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> samster34: thanks
[18:14] <Papa> my ubuntu has problem with internet so am talking in ubuntu using ekschat :D
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Papa: ask in ##windows for windows support, this is ubuntu support only
[18:14] <Papa> windoze :D
[18:14] <Papa> kk
[18:14] <glitsj16> rhizmoe: i believe you need a patched notify-osd to get extra features .. have you seen http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/closable-movable-notifyosd.html yet?
[18:14] <Papa> cheers
[18:14] <oCean> Papa: it is called Windows. Please don't use silly mispellings
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> it's so old
[18:15] <JLuc> baobab is great
[18:15] <Papa> foss works good in windoze too :D
[18:16] <Shano_56> hehe windoze
[18:16] <oCean> Shano_56: enough
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Shano_56: there are many, its pretty lame
[18:16] <IdleOne> Shano_56, repeating others stupidity will earn you the same result they got plus a little extra
[18:17] <Shano_56> there are many what ActionParsnip
[18:17] <rhizmoe> glitsj16: yeah, that page is a last (or first, really) resort after confirming :/
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Shano_56: lame ways people write windows to sound cool
[18:17] <val_> hey
[18:17] <Shano_56> yeah i know. they all piss me off except i dont mind windoze too much
[18:18] <IdleOne> tried to warn him...back to support now please
[18:18] <val_> if i write localhost in my webbrowser the system translates the name into this ip address <IP_ADDRESS>, what file should i edit to create more dns entries ?
[18:18] <micr0be> rhizmoe i tried to change it from "backbox session" to "Xfce session", but it dont work.. the only thing that works is "Recovery console"
[18:19] <Dave_L> Is this the wiki: wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[18:19] <IdleOne> it is
[18:19] <Dave_L> I couldn't find a link to it, so I had to search for it.
[18:19] <rhizmoe> micr0be: what did you change?
[18:20] <Dave_L> Does it have a "front page", with a list of contents?
[18:20] <samster34> does anyone have an idea how I could make ubnutu beep on the system speaker after a specified process has finished?
[18:20] <Jordan_U> samster34: Depends on the process. "insmod pcspkr && sleep 20 && beep".
[18:21] <rhizmoe> do motherboards still have beep speakers? :)
[18:21] <samster34> this one does
[18:21] <rhizmoe> http://superuser.com/questions/22767/enable-system-beep-in-ubuntu
[18:22] <samster34> although I opted not to install one on my newest board
[18:22] <val_> rhizmoe: backweird compatibility
[18:22] <samster34> backweird...sounds about right :p
[18:22] <Jordan_U> samster34: You'll probably have to "sudo apt-get install beep" as well, and for a more permanent solution you'll probably want to remove Ubuntu's blacklist of pcspkr.
[18:22] <rhizmoe> how could i not have heard that term until now?
[18:22] <samster34> aw, shucks
[18:22] <samster34> live cd doesnt seem to like my ethernet chipset
[18:22] <samster34> so no internet
[18:23] <rhizmoe> that's odd. soviet motherboard?
[18:23] <rhizmoe> i'd think all ethernet was at least tulip-compatible
[18:23] <samster34> nforce something
[18:23] <micr0be> rhizmoe i did not change something, yesteray all i did on my netbook was trying to launch some standart programm from my distro ( airodump, nmap, ...)
[18:24] <rhizmoe> micr0be: so it worked, and then it didn't? for how long (generally)?
[18:24] <samster34> how do I list the system specs?
[18:24] <samster34> settings -> system -> details doesnt list a whole lot
[18:25] <oldschool> glitsj16 did you install useing deb install software
[18:25] <rhizmoe> glitsj16: interestingly, that ppa actually registers the patched version as a plain upgrade. simple!
[18:25] <micr0be> rhizmoe it worked until yesterday, and i get this problem today, durint the night
[18:26] <val_> nobody can't help with this DNS thing ? what is the file to edit to associate an ip to a name ?
[18:26] <rohan2> can someone help me with running nm-applet on startup of enlightenment? I have systray enabled, and can run nm-applet from command line, at which time it appers in the systray. When I go into system settings, Apps, Startup Apps, I don't see how to add it there.
[18:26] <rhizmoe> val_: /etc/hosts
[18:26] <rhizmoe> most simply, i should say
[18:26] <glitsj16> oldschool: thumbnailme? yes i tried the .deb .. still having issues?
[18:27] <glitsj16> rhizmoe: indeed, i only deal with simple i'm afraid :p
[18:27] <val_> mattafact wasn't so hard
[18:27] <val_> thanks
[18:27] <hammito> hi everybody how can i join another channel like centos from here ???
[18:28] <hammito> sorry ..
[18:28] <rhizmoe> /j #centos
[18:28] <hammito> can not need to register or something alike ....
[18:29] <caemir> https://www.google.be/search?q=freenode+register
[18:29] <bazhang> !register | hammito
[18:29] <caemir> oh, sorry :)
[18:29] <bazhang> hammito, join #freenode for help with that
[18:29] <hammito> thank you
[18:32] <barry2> hi do i install wine, i donno which one it is in software manager
[18:33] <xangua> barry2: sudo apt-get install wine
[18:34] <Zaehlas> How do I override the network manager?  I have an /etc/interfaces file but it seems to ignore it
[18:35] <Zaehlas> is there something else new in 12 04 I need to change to force manual settings for my ethernet connections?
[18:36] <genii-around> Zaehlas: Perhaps try setting managed=false in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[18:37] <Zaehlas> I'll give that a try
[18:37] <oldschool> glitsj16 got it install and everything working fine now thanks for your help
[18:38] <Zaehlas> under [ifupdown] it's already set to managed=false
[18:38] <deinol> Anyone here an expert on smb/cifs?
[18:38] <Zaehlas> do I need to specify the eth0 / eth1 specifically in that file?
[18:38] <Jordan_U> !anyone | deinol
[18:39] <bazhang> deinol, #samba
[18:39] <samster34> I'm trying to hook my computer running ubuntu up with the one running win7 which has the internet connection...IPs are <IP_ADDRESS> for the win7 one, <IP_ADDRESS> for the ubuntu one, gateways set to the respective other one, win7 one is set as the dns server...but both computer list the other's IP as unreachable
[18:40] <deinol> ok, fair enough. I have an ubuntu server that I have been rsyncing to a windows 7 machine over a cifs mount for backup purposes. However, after some time the Windows 7 machine becomes really, really slow and effectively goes offline.
[18:40] <dnovosel> samster34: Physicall they are connected directly together, or through a switch?
[18:41] <samster34> dnovosel: directly
[18:41] <samster34> the cable is a crossover one
[18:41] <Jordan_U> samster34: What do you mean by "gateways set to the respective other one"? That sounds wrong.
[18:41] <samster34> Jordan_U: host <IP_ADDRESS> has <IP_ADDRESS> as a gateway and vice versa
[18:41] <dnovosel> samster34: The gateway thing is technically wrong, but since they are on the same subnet, it won't matter.  Neither system will try and use the gateway to communicate with each other.
[18:42] <dnovosel> samster34: What did you use for subnet masks
[18:42] <samster34> <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:42] <Jordan_U> samster34: That's a terrible idea, it will create a routing loop.
[18:42] <samster34> Jordan_U: for some reason, I've HAD to do this to hook up two win7 PCs forever now
[18:42] <Jordan_U> samster34: It's wrong, you shouldn't do it.
[18:42] <samster34> but I had to :p
[18:43] <micr0be> My primary user account cant acces to a gdm session, it keep restart gdm to the login screen. I just tried to set up a new user, and it works with that new user ... Any idea ?
[18:43] <Zaehlas> no change..  something in my network settings is overriding the interfaces file and picking a wrong ip address.  no idea how or why
[18:43] <samster34> so, what else am I supposed to do
[18:43] <dnovosel> samster34: You shouldn't need a gateway at all if they are only going to talk to only each other.
[18:43] <Zaehlas> tried restarting the network manager, and all the interfaces
[18:44] <dnovosel> samster34: What are you trying to accomplish?  Just having the two machines talk to one another?
[18:45] <genii-around> Zaehlas: Probably whatever you networkmanager applet in your desktop environment is set to do
[18:45] <samster34> sharing the internet connection from win7 over ethernet to the ubuntu pc
[18:45] <Jordan_U> samster34: Set things up properly and they will probably work. I don't know what problem your configuration had but creating a routing loop is not the correct solution.
[18:45] <samster34> Jordan_U: what IS the proper setup though :)
[18:45] <Zaehlas> both the network manager is set to a static ip, and the ionterfaces file..
[18:45] <Zaehlas> but both are being ignored
[18:46] <dnovosel> samster34: Okay, so in this case the windows 7 machine will use it's own default gateway on the internet connection.  The ubuntu machine should use the windows 7 machine for its gateway and possibly dns as well.
[18:46] <samster34> that's what I figured
[18:47] <rynkan> anyone have any experience working with virtualization of server instances?
[18:47] <Jordan_U> samster34: The default gateway for the Windows box should be the ip address of the device providing you a connection to the internet. The default gateway for the Ubuntu machine should be the Windows machine (since for the Ubuntu machine, that is the device which is providing a connection to the internet).
[18:47] <alchemist9> I've got an odd problem, a usb hdd keeps jumping to the next drivepath as soon as I read something from the disk, could it be hardware or software?
[18:47] <samster34> Jordan_U: the gateway of the LAN connection to the other computer should be the address of the router?
[18:48] <Jordan_U> samster34: A computer has only one default gateway, it's not an interface specific setting.
[18:48] <dnovosel> rynkan: Define experience?
[18:48] <samster34> Jordan_U: so I don't enter a gateway at all?
[18:48] <samster34> since I already have one.
[18:49] <dnovosel> samster34: On windows 7 you don't need to add a default gateway on that connection.  You only need to set the IP and subnet mask.
[18:49] <rynkan> I'm trying to figure out how it would be posible to host a couple of server with only one external IP-address
[18:49] <Jordan_U> samster34: If the Windows GUI is presenting you with an option to enter a default gateway in a dialog otherwise for configuring the interface connected to the Ubuntu machine, yes, you should not provide any default gateway option there.
[18:49] <alchemist9> the root hub compains it can't enumerate the drive... strange..
[18:50] <dnovosel> rynkan: Are you planning on running this off a single machine?  Do you own the hardware for this and can physically access it?
[18:51] <rynkan> dnovosel: I've got an hp server on the way, it will be run from my apartment (I've got two external Ip's)
[18:51] <samster34> Jordan_U: alright, well that's how it's set up now.
[18:51] <samster34> still, both hosts are unreachable from the other one
[18:52] <Jordan_U> samster34: Can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig" from the Ubuntu machine?
[18:52] <Pokinawa> Jordan_U: Hey! How's it going? :)
[18:52] <samster34> Jordan_U: with a little flash drive magic, perhaps..
[18:53] <AlexzAK> Hi, what to do if maintainer of some package not response to the bugs too long?
[18:54] <dnovosel> rynkan: Okay, well you have a few options.  Personally I'm really onboard bare-hardware virtualization, and I use VMWare ESXi which you can use for free on a single machine.  I would then do one of the following (or both if you want).  First, use an external router and only forward the ports required to the internal virtual machines.  And two, what I typically do is always run Vyatta and using ESXi build a virtual network, so that my external interface
[18:54] <AlexzAK> Dose Ubuntu community some method to handle such sittuations?
[18:54] <TheLordOfTime> AlexzAK:  depends on the package, which package is it
[18:54] <OerHeks> AlexzAK, how long is "too long" ?
[18:54] <AlexzAK> for example readline6
[18:54] <TheLordOfTime> AlexzAK:  link to the bug?
[18:54] <AlexzAK> 5 years
[18:54]  * TheLordOfTime likes links to bugs
[18:55] <samster34> Jordan_U: here you go http://pastebin.com/7WejD6XT
[18:55] <kingram> I'm having trouble install 12.04 Server. Failing to get Mysql and thereby stalling the remaining install.
[18:56] <rynkan> dnovosel: can you tell e more about alternative two?
[18:56] <Jordan_U> samster34: And "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" fails?
[18:56] <AlexzAK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/readline6/+bug/103986 or new one from me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/readline6/+bug/1015744
[18:56] <samster34> Jordan_U: win7 host is ..3.1, ubuntu host is 3.2
[18:56] <samster34> and yes
[18:57] <kurtwp_> dnovosel: doesn't vyatta cost money to use
[18:57] <rynkan> dnovosel: I know about portforwarding, portforwarding creates a problem when two servers need the same port (port80)
[18:57] <samster34> "destination host unreachable" on ubuntu, and a timeout on windows
[18:57] <dnovosel> samster34: Sorry, I'm running two conversations now. Maybe check the routing table on both sides, and it's possible windows 7 is blocking pings.
[18:57] <ashmew2> Hi , trying to install gnome-sudoku from source but it gives me an importerror in Python , help please.
[18:57] <rynkan> dnovosel: I'll read up on vyatta
[18:57] <dnovosel> kurtwp_: There's a community edition.
[18:57] <malibu> In Brasario, how do I change the file mode?  I need type-1 instead of jouliet
[18:58] <samster34> dnovosel: windows can't ping the ubuntu host either, and connecting to other windows hosts works
[18:58] <AlexzAK> TheLordOfTime: OerHeks: How long is "too long", actually? And dose some methods exists to handle such sittuations?
[19:00] <dnovosel> rynkan: Basically with ESXi you can build a virtual network.  So I build out 3 or 4 networks typically.  The outside network is wired to the physical interfaces on my server.  I then create a vyatta virtual machine and create interfaces (2 one for each physical port and IP) for vyatta.  Then for each of my other networks (typically Servers, Clients, Testing) I create more interfaces for vyatta, and attach them to each of these internal virtual switches
[19:01] <kingram> I get this from Aptitude during install:
[19:01] <hogarflo>  Hi there, I can't see content of trash folder (just with nautilus Ctrl+H from /home, but I don't wanna do it everytime!!) Any idea?? Thanks! (Gnome 3.2.1)
[19:02] <kingram> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the mysql-server-5.5 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[19:02] <kingram> E: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download.
[19:02] <OerHeks> AlexzAK, cannot confirm your 'bug' " Default bash shell setup should allow history navigation with page up and page down keys. "arrow up/down works great
[19:02] <durodeprogramar_> Hi
[19:03] <dnovosel> samster34: Under windows 7 can you pull up CMD and do "route print"  You should see the network to ubuntu, and the interface used.  Can you confirm that lines up?
[19:03] <samster34> dnovosel: resolved the issue...I have been configuring the wrong LAN connection in windows. I don't know why I have 3 all of a sudden...
[19:04] <dnovosel> samster34: Okay, that's good.
[19:04] <KorvinSzanto> "VPN connection failed because the VPN service failed to start."
[19:04] <OerHeks> kingram, are you on 12.04? aptitude is depreciated, since Pangolin is multi-arch
[19:04] <AlexzAK> OerHeks: No, it is not. Try default bash setup from Gentoo linux. PageUp dose different thing from UpArrow. It preform search backward in history with string that you already typed
[19:04] <kingram> Yes. 12.04
[19:04] <kingram> i386
[19:04] <dnovosel> rynkan: Obviously a lot of it depends on exactly what you are trying to accomplish.
[19:05] <AlexzAK> OerHeks:  Try to uncomment lines in /etc/inputrc file
[19:05] <KorvinSzanto> What's the issue with my vpn connection
[19:05] <rynkan> dnovosel: thats inpressive i'll have to read up on it more. I see that thers vyatta.org thanks
[19:05] <dnovosel> rynkan: Look into ESXi as well.
[19:05] <OerHeks> AlexAv, ic auto-complete from history
[19:05] <dnovosel> (That's VMWare, you need to register for it though.)
[19:05] <rynkan> dnovosel:  was mostly looking to isolate different applications into their own server instances
[19:06] <val_> exit
[19:06] <samster34> okay, now the windows host sees the ubuntu host, but not the other way around
[19:06] <samster34> it did briefly, but the stopped
[19:07] <rynkan> dnovosel: also to e able to have a dev/test/prod/etc-instance of the same application
[19:07] <eprom_> Hello everyone
[19:07] <kingram> I chose manual package select. Should I start over?
[19:07] <AlexzAK> OerHeks: My Gentoo friend showed it to me. It is very comfortable to work in this setup. And then i found bug report about it dated as year 2007. All work that should be done is to uncomment to lines in config
[19:07] <rynkan> dnovosel: thanks for taking the time and explaining!
[19:07] <OerHeks> AlexzAK, i was looking at this 'error', maybe any help > http://askubuntu.com/questions/142994/bash-completion-doesnt-work-in-root-user
[19:07] <kingram> What's the equivalent of apt?
[19:07] <AlexzAK> OerHeks: It is work well in Gentoo Linux for years
[19:08] <guntbert> kingram: use apt-get
[19:08] <dnovosel> rynkan: Okay, well ESXi will allow that, since you can spawn as many system as you want.  It's quite probable you can come up with other methods of accomplishing the same thing, but bare-metal virtualization is a good way to go.
[19:08] <kingram> I start over?
[19:09] <samster34> ping on ubuntu has now stopped producing any output whatsoever :/
[19:09] <AlexzAK> OerHeks: I have no problem described here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142994/bash-completion-doesnt-work-in-root-user
[19:10] <KorvinSzanto> My VPN service is failing to start
[19:10] <KorvinSzanto> ubuntu 12.04
[19:10] <KorvinSzanto> how can I fix this
[19:10] <kingram> I'm in the middle of the initial install. Should I just start over?
[19:10] <dnovosel> rynkan: No problem.  If you have questions again in the future, I'm not on that often (although I'm trying to be more), but you can always hit me up on email.
[19:10] <barry2> how do i install stuff in wine?
[19:11] <dnovosel> samster34: So it was working, and now has stopped working?
[19:11] <guntbert> kingram: "in the middle of install"? did you loose network connection?
[19:12] <AlexzAK> Everybody: What to do if maintainer not fixing small and very easy bug for years?
[19:12] <kingram> No. It can't download Mysql, and it stopped everything at that point.
[19:12] <alchemist9> barry2: wine /path/to/executable/program.exe should work as far as I can remember..
[19:12] <guntbert> AlexzAK: fix it yourself?
[19:12] <barry2> ok
[19:12] <kingram> : I wasn't able to locate a file for the mysql-server-5.5 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[19:13] <kingram> E: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download.
[19:13] <AlexzAK> guntbert: I attached patch. But I think it can be ignored
[19:14] <barry2> so how would i run a jar file in wine?
[19:14] <barry2> asuumign jar file is on desktop
[19:14] <guntbert> AlexzAK: ask about it in #ubuntu-bugs
[19:14] <moloch> does anyone have a sound fix?
[19:15] <AlexzAK> guntbert: right! thanks
[19:15] <guntbert> AlexzAK: no problem :)
[19:15] <theadmin> barry2: Why would you even... You need to install Java, I suggest you use winetricks for that... Next you do something along the lines of "wine start ~/Desktop/blah.jar" I guess.
[19:15] <alchemist9> barry2: jar files would be run with a java vm
[19:15] <barry2> i dont get it
[19:15] <barry2> it doesnt work in linux
[19:15] <theadmin> Err...
[19:16] <phunyguy> barry2: java is multi-platform
[19:16] <samster34> dnovosel: apparently, if I DISable the windows firewall, the connection stops working
[19:16] <theadmin> Java apps would work in Linux just fine
[19:16] <barry2> i think i put something in and it screwed up
[19:16] <barry2> java -jar abc.jar doesnt work
[19:16] <theadmin> barry2: What is the error?
[19:16] <dnovosel> samster34: If you disable the firewall it stops working?
[19:16] <dnovosel> samster34: That's wild.
[19:17] <samster34> dnovosel: yeah..
[19:17] <phunyguy> samster34: HOW are you disabling the windows direwall?
[19:17] <barry2> now that i instlled openjava.. it says i need javafx2.1.0
[19:17] <phunyguy> firewall*
[19:17] <barry2> but i already instaleld that
[19:17] <samster34> services -> windows firewall -> stop :)
[19:17] <phunyguy> samster34: thats the wrong way
[19:17] <barry2> worked fine on mint without openjava
[19:17] <phunyguy> samster34: you do it in control panel
[19:18] <alchemist9> barry2: try this command gij -jar file.jar
[19:18] <dnovosel> samster34: To be clear, if the windows firewall is operationally, everything is working?
[19:18] <phunyguy> i think stoppping the service, stops other things as well
[19:18] <samster34> I'm fairly sure it doesn't need the firewall service to run internet connection sharing though, I've been using it that way for months. probably just needs a restart with it disabled
[19:18] <phunyguy> but you don't want to disable the service, you just want the rules to be accept...  lol
[19:18] <samster34> dnovosel: yes
[19:18] <phunyguy> samster34: trust me.
[19:19] <samster34> no :p
[19:19] <phunyguy> or not.
[19:19] <phunyguy> what do I know... just a tech in a microsoft shop.
[19:19] <samster34> why do I want the firewall to be running when it's doing nothing? :)
[19:19] <phunyguy> (Engineer level
[19:19] <Eagleman7> Hello, i'm trying to assign vlan 10 to my eth1 device
[19:19] <barry2> installing gij
[19:19] <Eagleman7> what should i do?
[19:19] <phunyguy> samster34: because thats how it works
[19:20] <samster34> I prefer it when it doesnt work, so to say
[19:20] <Eagleman7> This is my current configuration for vlan 10 on eth1 http://pastebin.com/Mp4VTP7M
[19:20] <phunyguy> samster34: like i said, a firewall service can be running all day, but if it is told to accept everything, and deny nothing, then whats the problem?
[19:21] <phunyguy> it still needs to be enabled in windows.
[19:21] <phunyguy> i will test my theory in a VM.
[19:21] <phunyguy> wait one.
[19:21] <guntbert> Eagleman7: vlan? thats something for switches - not for nodes as far as I know
[19:21] <Zignd> hi
[19:22] <samster34> phunyguy: it needs to be enabled to do certain things, like enable internet sharing. once it's on though, it's not required anymore
[19:22] <Eagleman7> guntbert its something i need for openwrt
[19:22] <phunyguy> samster34: PM me if you want
[19:22] <alchemist9> anyone care to explain why a powerpc cpu clocked at 400mhz can compile a kernel faster than a i386 clocked at 1.2ghz? T.T
[19:22] <dnovosel> guntbert: Depending on the exact setup, there are various reasons for why you might need a VLAN on an endnode.
[19:22] <barry2> might just go back to mint9, stuff seems to work there
[19:22] <kurtwp_> Eagleman7: Are you trying to have one interface on the system to be accessed from different subnets
[19:23] <Guest56185> I've a Belgian ID card reader.  It gives me an error message when loading the info from my Belgian ID card.  How to fix the problem??
[19:24] <Eagleman7> kurtwp_ i'm trying to assign a WAN address to one of my NIC's on the server
[19:24] <Eagleman7> By using openwrt vlan
[19:24] <Eagleman7> Since there is a switch between my server and my router
[19:25] <barry2> colin@colin-TPower-I45:~$ gij -jar MyCubes.jar
[19:25] <barry2> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from MyCubes.jar
[19:25] <Thimbletack> Hi everyone, I just wanted to ask if I upgraded from ubuntu 11 to 12, will I have to reinstall all my programs?
[19:25] <D[4]ni> could anyone explain to me why some packages have Conflicts: with itself?
[19:25] <Thimbletack> Like will it reformat or anything?
[19:26] <alchemist9> barry2: is it the same error you where getting from your previous  try?
[19:26] <D[4]ni> Thimbletack: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[19:26] <barry2> no
[19:26] <barry2> last time it wanted fx installed
[19:26] <D[4]ni> this way it will not reformat or something similar
[19:27] <barry2> i think il just install mint9
[19:27] <barry2> i do like the panel in ubuntu though
[19:28] <Thimbletack> Ok, yeah I had the upgrade window come up, It just didn't mention whether or not it would mess up my setup
[19:28] <Thimbletack> Glad to know It will keep my things!
[19:28] <guntbert> Eagleman7: obviously no help from me - just for my own learning: were you following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan ?
[19:28] <Thimbletack> Thanks D[4]ni
[19:28] <newbie|2> I read the error message on Google, I have 12.04 LTS 64 bit, but don't understand what to do to fix the problem
[19:28] <thyagu> hi
[19:28] <alchemist9> barry2: so you need the fx package do you have the java runtime installed or the dev kit?
[19:29] <barry2> i installed the jdk for it
[19:29] <barry2> pasted it inot    /usr/lib/jvm
[19:29] <barry2> the dev kit
[19:29] <guntbert> !enter | barry2
[19:30] <barry2> well it does work... just had program running in netbrans
[19:30] <newbie|2> It says that beid-tools interferes with beidgui and the mozilla plugin because it installs pcscd and another daemon
[19:30] <barry2> i wasnt using it as punctuation
[19:30] <barry2> it was separate comment
[19:30] <icdev> Hello I recently bought a Microsoft Lifecam and I'm trying to get it working with skype, i've tried several things i found online and nothing has worked thus far, anyone here have any suggestions?
[19:30]  * alchemist9 pats ubottu on the head throwing a spare bolt his way
[19:30] <Eagleman> guntbert yes i was
[19:31] <guntbert> Eagleman: thx
[19:31] <DeltaHeavy> Sometimes my computer suffers intense lag for ~30 seconds then all text colours seem to randomize. It's happend more than once, and the colours are different every time. It happened while in GNOME 2 fallback mode and recently again after switching to XFCE (no reinstallation). It effects CLI, as well as GUI apps. Anybody have any idea of what's going wrong?
[19:31] <zukirep> anyone know if ubuntu works well with laptops (i.e. using wireless internet?)
[19:31] <zukirep> the newest version of ubuntu i mean
[19:32] <zykotick9> !gender | alchemist9 her way ;)
[19:32] <zukirep> zz
[19:32] <zukirep> anyone active in this chatroom?
[19:33] <guntbert> zukirep: download the live CD and try for your piece
[19:33] <bazhang> !patience |zukirep
[19:33] <genii-around> !laptoptesting
[19:33]  * alchemist9 hangs head in shame....
[19:33] <zukirep> well the laptop im looking at is my parents
[19:33] <genii-around> Hm
[19:33] <zukirep> and its only got a usb slot
[19:33] <bazhang> so try th e live cd zukirep
[19:33] <zukirep> so i would need to purchase a flash drive, but I wanted to double check first
[19:33] <DeltaHeavy> zukirep: It's a netbook?
[19:33] <genii-around> !laptop
[19:34] <species_4981> ere's a minor confusion i would like some help with please - I have upgraded my OS and due to a mistake, I now have *two* partitions containing systems on my HDD. One is the active one, and the other is now not needed. How do I determine which is which? It isn't obvious but I suspect it should be ...how do I detect the explicit mount point via terminal?
[19:34] <zukirep> sort of like a small ibm laptop that doesnt have cd drive
[19:34] <The_Other_Guy> zuki: It really depends on the laptop. As B.A. said, boot from the live disk and see if everything works.
[19:34] <guntbert> zukirep: you can try from a "live USB stick" too
[19:34] <ki4ro> zukirep: My Toshiba Satellite works great...make sure to make a swap area and you'll be fine
[19:34] <zukirep> ok ill check out the live disk
[19:34] <B0g4r7> My asus netbook works almost great.
[19:34] <barry2> ubuntu is starting to do my nut, sorry, im leaving for mint
[19:34] <zukirep> yea i only asked bc my old hp had issues with wifi on ubuntu
[19:34] <barry2> thx for the help
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[19:34] <zukirep> but ill check out live cd if that is something that can just be downloaded and simulated
[19:35] <B0g4r7> If it didn't have the doesn't-always-wake-from-suspend issue I'd love it.
[19:35] <c0deMaster> how to find the wireless driver name?
[19:35] <guntbert> zukirep: that is an iso, you can use it to create a bootable usb thumb drive
[19:36] <guntbert> zukirep: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:36] <zukirep> guntbert kk appreciate it
[19:36] <ki4ro> zukirep: Sounds like the laptop might be a little old...you might want to check here before you try:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[19:37] <atomopawn> Hello all.  Why I run kbuildsycoca, I get a bunch of warnings about missing semicolons in .desktop files.  What is the appropriate channel for submitting patches for these?
[19:37] <zukirep> ki4ro thanks
[19:38] <samster34> ....crap, I think my ubuntu has frozen :/
[19:38] <samster34> the mouse still moves every couple of seconds, but nothing else updates
[19:40] <toogfo> I got pinged!
[19:40] <ki4ro> samster34: Is you hard drive showing a lot of activity?
[19:40] <samster34> ki4ro: how do I tell
[19:40] <samster34> it's not a noisy one, so that doesnt help
[19:41] <upgrayeddd> Hello, I am trying to change my shell with chsh, but everytime I try to I get chsh: PAM authentication failed. I don't think I use a password at all, because I ssh into this Ubuntu box that I'm trying to change the shell for with a key file
[19:41] <upgrayeddd> How would I go about changing the shell then?
[19:41] <ki4ro> samster34: Should be a light on the PC
[19:41] <upgrayeddd> without a password when prompted ?
[19:41] <samster34> ki4ro: no light. though I suppose it should be pretty busy, I've been wiping it and all...
[19:42] <toogfo> I got pinged!
[19:42] <guntbert> toogfo: stop
[19:42] <bazhang> toogfo, stop that
[19:42] <ki4ro> samster34: Well my computer used to do that until I realized that I had neglected to give it a swap file or swap partition when I installed it.  I created a swap file on it and its been running great ever since
[19:43] <sburw> Beidtools problem. Conflict with beidgui and mozilla plugin. Anyone wamna help?
[19:43] <samster34> ki4ro: the OS is not on the hard disk. I'm running a live one from USB flash memory
[19:43] <rynkan> stupid synology messing up ipkg...
[19:43] <sburw> I've 12.04 lts
[19:43] <ki4ro> samster34: I C...don't know its needs in that case...maybe someone else has an idea
[19:44] <toogfo> I got pinged!
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> tooogfo is a bot
[19:44] <bazhang> was
[19:44] <IdleOne> and it is gone
[19:44] <c0deMaster> how to creat hostspot on the wifi interface?
[19:45] <bazhang> !ics | c0deMaster
[19:45] <Eagleman> I am trying to get a WAN IP Address assigned to my eth1 device using vlan's ( becuase there is a switch between my server and the router ) But i cant get it to work, Here is my current configuration on the server: http://pastebin.com/9B125jFm And here is my toplolgy: http://imageshack.us/f/217/99320623.png/
[19:45] <r3dLunchb0x_>  identify !l0veJ3ss
[19:45] <IdleOne> r3dLunchb0x_: you may want to change your nickserv password now
[19:45] <samster34> okay, things are udpating again, cpu usage is at nearly 100% for all 4 cores though....wha
[19:45] <HunterT> Ugghh I am using Drupal and QuickStart 2.0 and I am trying to create a symlink to websites/dgd7/web (web being my core drupal folder). I want to make it so dgd7.localhost will work as a url.
[19:46] <Hetep-AFK> hola, the update is suggesting sudo (1.8.2-1) unstable, then gives a prompt (END). What is necessary to proceed with the update?
[19:46] <tking> pls i cant open .doc file sent to me
[19:47] <guntbert> Eagleman: what errors do you get? did you load the 8021q module successfully?
[19:47] <r3dLunchb0x_> thanks idleone, stupid xchat
[19:47] <Eagleman> yes i did guntbert
[19:47] <Eagleman> I think the error is on openwrt ( router OS )
[19:47] <IdleOne> r3dLunchb0x_: put your nickserv pass in the server field under network list
[19:47] <guntbert> Eagleman: any error messages for us?
[19:48] <IdleOne> r3dLunchb0x_: that will autosend it to the server on connect and will avoid you having to type it or typing it into a channel
[19:48] <alchemist9> Hetep-AFK: hit q
[19:48] <Hetep-AFK> can anybody help with the Ubuntu update?
[19:48] <Eagleman> Well does my network file looks legit?
[19:48] <r3dLunchb0x_> i did, but it freaked out and left me with my pants down.... :/
[19:48] <Eagleman> I want to be sure the problem is not on the router
[19:48] <Eagleman> server*
[19:48] <ki4ro> Hetep-AFK: What is the question/problem?
[19:48] <DeltaHeavy> Sometimes my computer suffers intense lag for ~30 seconds then all text colours seem to randomize. It's happend more than once, and the colours are different every time. It happened while in GNOME 2 fallback mode and recently again after switching to XFCE (no reinstallation). It effects CLI, as well as GUI apps. Anybody have any idea of what's going wrong?
[19:50] <Hetep-AFK> gracias ki4ro
[19:50] <Hetep-AFK> gracias alchemist
[19:50] <ks07> Hey all - I've installed a package from a .deb which is also available from the repos as a newer version, hence apt-get upgrade shows it as requiring an update. How would I go about telling apt-get to ignore this?
[19:50] <HunterT> Can anyone help me create the symlink that I am trying to create
[19:51] <DJones> !pinning | ks07
[19:51] <ks07> I've tried dpkg --set-selections, but it hasn't seemed to have worked
[19:51] <theadmin> ks07: echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections # Should work.
[19:51] <samster34> alright, first pass of the disk wipe just finished, but the system remains unresponsive...I have nothing else running?
[19:52] <HunterT> hmm this isn't working ln -s /home/ben/code/dgd7/web /home/ben/workspace/dgd7
[19:52] <sid__> hello
[19:52] <sid__> i'm in a problem
[19:52] <sid__> can anybody help me
[19:52] <guntbert> Eagleman: what does    sudo vconfig    say? (I am only fishing around)
[19:53] <alchemist9> sid__: post your problem..
[19:53] <sid__> i'm trying to install g++ on my ubuntu 12.04
[19:53] <IdleOne> sid__: We won't know until you ask a question
[19:53] <ks07> theadmin, ah right it has worked, it just still shows up, thanks
[19:53] <sid__> when
[19:53] <theadmin> sid__: sudo apt-get install build-essential g++
[19:53] <sid__> i'm giving thi "sudo apt-get install g++"
[19:53] <guntbert> !enter | sid__
[19:53] <sid__> it shows can't find the package
[19:53] <theadmin> !info g++
[19:53] <sid__> why its coming like thid?
[19:53] <Eagleman> guntbert showing me a help meny xD
[19:53] <sid__> :(
[19:54] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install build-essential - That should be enough
[19:54] <sid__> i tried tat also
[19:54] <steveccc_> i have a usb stick in the back of a machine so that a cron job can do a weekly backup to it. Does having it constantly powered instead of plugging it in each friday reduce its lifespan - is it pure reads and writes?
[19:54] <guntbert> Eagleman: I should have guessed - but there will be a switch to make it show the status
[19:54]  * alchemist9 hands the pupetmasters bolts to feed ubottu
[19:55] <theadmin> sid__: Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[19:55]  * theadmin suspects an EOL user here
[19:55] <ki4ro> steveccc_: My experience with computers (since 1970) would indicate, if you have a good power source, to leave it plugged in...powering up and down and up and down is what is not good for electronics generaly
[19:56] <ki4ro> *generally
[19:56] <tking> theadmin pls  do u know how i can open
[19:56] <theadmin> tking: "open"?
[19:56] <r3dLunchb0x_> is there a channel for ubuntu server?
[19:56] <tking> .doc file
[19:56] <frankenstein> hiiii
[19:56] <theadmin> tking: With any sane office suite. LibreOffice, which comes preinstlaled, can do it.
[19:56] <zykotick9> r3dLunchb0x_: #ubuntu-server
[19:56] <sid__> eading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
[19:56] <tking> hmmm
[19:57] <frankenstein> O.o
[19:57] <r3dLunchb0x_> sweet zykotick9, ty
[19:57] <DJones> r3dLunchb0x_: #ubuntu-server
[19:57] <mattia> ciao
[19:57] <r3dLunchb0x_> ty DJones
[19:57] <tking> theadmin - you are right but am surprised bcos i received the .doc file from my university so it is clean and i have opened it on windows b4.
[19:57] <genii-around> !info xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
[19:57] <genii-around> Hm
[19:57] <theadmin> sid__: Again, which Ubuntu version are you now?
[19:57] <tking> couldn't check my timetable
[19:58] <mattia> ubuntu studio
[19:58] <theadmin> tking: Hm. Try "swriter path/to/your.doc" and see if that opens it -- broken file associations or something maybe
[19:58] <genii-around> sid__: So when you try to install g++ it tells you it can't find e xserver-xorg-input-mtrack ?
[19:59] <steveccc_> ki4ro: thanks
[20:01] <tking> theadmin tking@TKing-HP-PC:~/Downloads$ swritter "L5 BSCS GRP1_57.doc"
[20:01] <tking> command not found
[20:01] <theadmin> tking: There's only one "t" in "swriter"
[20:01] <tking> yes i tried it
[20:01] <tking> with 1
[20:01] <theadmin> Hm
[20:01] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/swriter
[20:02] <theadmin> ...Where does LibreOffice even install to?
[20:02] <tking> theadmin find / -iname u52nnKr-xIE 2>/dev/null /usr/bin/swriter
[20:03] <theadmin> tking: Try "lowriter" instead
[20:03] <theadmin> Seems like some naming change in a recent version, not sure when exactly... Didn't track my upgrades too well
[20:03] <tking> ok
[20:04] <tking> theadmin  error poped up saying file bla bla bla
[20:04] <theadmin> tking: Err, "bla bla bla"?
[20:04] <tking> yes i cant copy the error cos its a dialog box
[20:05] <theadmin> !screenshot | tking
[20:06] <DJones> theadmin: lowriter should be in /usr/bin/lowriter
[20:06] <theadmin> DJones: Yeah, but apparently "swriter" is all gone now
[20:06]  * alchemist9 worries about theadmin over the serious bot usage...
[20:07] <theadmin> alchemist9: Well, typing out what can be accessed by a factoid easily is pointless :P
[20:07] <alchemist9> true..
[20:07] <DJones> tking: Which version of ubuntu are you using
[20:07] <tking> theadmin i know, cant find the dialogue box anymore bcos i switched to this Xchat client, and when i tried re-running the file
[20:07] <tking> nothing happen
[20:07] <tking> 12.04
[20:08] <tking> DJones 12.04
[20:08] <DJones> tking: Thats the same as me
[20:09] <DJones> tking: Can you run this command "which lowriter"
[20:10] <tking> DJones it shows usr/bin/lowriter
[20:12] <DJones> Odd
[20:12] <samster34> hmmm...I just completed a single pass of writing 0xFF to the entirety of my 750GB disk, inspecting it with hexdump it is full of gibberish though??
[20:13] <ole__> org
[20:13] <alchemist9> samster34: bad sectors?
[20:14] <samster34> alchemist9: unlikely, it has a single bad sector
[20:16] <upgrayeddd> Hi, how can I change my shell without a password?
[20:16] <samster34> if I write a couple hundred MB worth of 0x00 or 0xff to the disk right from the beginning, and hexdump it again, those show up
[20:16] <samster34> but that's what I've been doing before, where does the gibberish come from
[20:16] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: Will need to be root for that I think
[20:16] <upgrayeddd> I use a keyfile to ssh into my ubuntu computer, and don't use a password. I wish to change the default shell from bash to zsh with chsh -s /bin/zsh. It prompts for a password however
[20:16] <genii-around> samster34: Maybe the last bits didn't get flushed from the write buffer yet
[20:17] <upgrayeddd> theadmin: doesn't Ubuntu's root not have password/isn't accessible by default?
[20:17] <jrib> upgrayeddd: have the admin do it
[20:17] <samster34> genii-around: I've been writing ~750GB worth of FF to the disk
[20:17] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: Well we haz sudo
[20:17] <genii-around> upgrayeddd: Correct
[20:17] <zykotick9> upgrayeddd: just because you use an sshkey to loging does NOT mean you don't have a password - you do
[20:17] <upgrayeddd> jrib: I am the admin... and su -l root doesn't work
[20:17] <samster34> I doubt it could all fit in any buffer
[20:17] <jrib> upgrayeddd: then use sudo.
[20:17] <r3dLunchb0x_> upgradeddd: what exactly are you trying to do?
[20:18] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: "sudo" is the only way, the default root password isn't present (or rather, the hash in /etc/passwd is set to "!" which is just an impossible value, no entry will match that)
[20:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> do you want to keep that shell permanently?
[20:18] <jrib> upgrayeddd: (as whatever user you have with sudo access)
[20:18] <upgrayeddd> r3dLunchb0x_: I'm trying to change the default shell from bash to zsh.
[20:18] <upgrayeddd> theadmin: I've tried sudo chsh -s /bin/zsh, no dice
[20:18] <exetron> whois
[20:18] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: Well, that probably changed root's shell
[20:18] <zykotick9> upgrayeddd: no sudo - just "chsh"
[20:18] <upgrayeddd> zykotick9: right, then I'm prompted for a pass...
[20:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> upgrayeddd: for what user?
[20:18] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: Just use chsh, yes, I don't see why that's really a problem to enter your password
[20:19] <loculinux> ola
[20:19] <zykotick9> upgrayeddd: right - type it in
[20:19] <upgrayeddd> r3dLunchb0x_: ubuntu. I don't have  password
[20:19] <loculinux> espña
[20:19] <zykotick9> upgrayeddd: yes - you do!
[20:19] <loculinux> hay espña
[20:19] <zykotick9> !es | loculinux
[20:19] <r3dLunchb0x_> upgrayeddd: not the root user, but one you login all the time?
[20:19] <upgrayeddd> zykotick9: is there a default one or something I'm missing?
[20:19] <lxz6516> theadmin: if you log in with ssh public key auth, you don't need the password for the account
[20:19] <upgrayeddd> yeah r3dLunchb0x_, the default one given for a 12.04 EC2 micro instance
[20:19] <zykotick9> upgrayeddd: "default" no - it's what you set it too
[20:20] <lxz6516> theadmin: so upgrayeddd is logged in without knowing the password
[20:20] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: If you don't have a password, you may set it with passwd easily.
[20:20] <upgrayeddd> Yep lxz6516, just with a keyfile
[20:20] <lxz6516> theadmin: passwd will prompt for the old password first...
[20:20] <r3dLunchb0x_> upgrayeddd: edit the .bashrc for that user on that host, add /bin/zsh to the last part of that file
[20:20] <loculinux> ola
[20:20] <r3dLunchb0x_> upgrayeddd: then type ". ./.bashrc"
[20:20] <loculinux> alguien habla esppañol
[20:20] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: On the other hand, "sudo chsh -s /bin/zsh your_username" will change the shell without asking for your password (and "sudo passwd username" will also work in a similar manner)
[20:20] <zykotick9> r3dLunchb0x_: lol - that's funny.  use .bashrc to change shell
[20:21] <jrib> upgrayeddd: if you can't sudo and don't have a root password, then you aren't the admin by definition
[20:21] <loculinux> esañol
[20:21] <upgrayeddd> jrib: I just used sudo passwd and made a new UNIX password
[20:21]  * jrib sighs
[20:21] <r3dLunchb0x_> zykotick9: or .profile
[20:21] <upgrayeddd> thanks for all the help. and yes jrib, I was sudoer by default with this ubuntu user
[20:21] <loculinux> problem
[20:21] <loculinux> si
[20:22] <loculinux> ola
[20:22] <theadmin> upgrayeddd: Uh, with "sudo passwd" you changed the root's password (I think), which is bad
[20:22] <loculinux> from
[20:22] <zykotick9> chsh shouldn't have anything to do with sudo!  it's just the users' password that is required
[20:22] <theadmin> loculinux: Just ask the question already.
[20:22] <theadmin> zykotick9: Yes, but if it's not there, well, we need to get around somehow
[20:22] <loculinux> españ
[20:22] <KorvinSzanto> how do I connect to smb?
[20:22] <jrib> !es | loculinux
[20:22] <theadmin> !es | loculinux
[20:22] <loculinux> hablo poco imgles
[20:22] <loculinux> yes
[20:22] <zykotick9> theadmin: the password is there - the user just doesn't know it.
[20:22] <loculinux> yes
[20:22] <llutz> zykotick9: and how did he use sudo then?
[20:23] <loculinux> theadmin
[20:23] <zykotick9> llutz: ? i doubt they could
[20:23] <loculinux> hello
[20:23] <llutz> zykotick9: <upgrayeddd> jrib: I just used sudo passwd and made a new UNIX password
[20:23] <SkippersBoss> !ask | locolinux
[20:23] <upgrayeddd> Hmm, what you are saying is right theadmin. I managed to make a password for the root and am able to do su -l root now, but when doing passwd on the normal ubuntu user, it asks for the old pass...
[20:23] <loculinux> no emtiendo
[20:23] <upgrayeddd> how can I create a password for ubuntu as root?
[20:24] <zykotick9> !noroot | upgrayeddd
[20:24] <jrib> upgrayeddd: what password do you enter when you sudo?
[20:24] <llutz> upgrayeddd: as root "passwd username"
[20:24] <upgrayeddd> jrib: none
[20:24] <upgrayeddd> jrib: I can sudo as user ubuntu with no password prompt, I thought it was odd too..
[20:24] <Jordan_U> upgrayeddd: Are you using a LiveCD/USB?
[20:25] <upgrayeddd> Jordan_U: nope, Ubuntu 12.04 micro instance on AWS EC2
[20:25] <upgrayeddd> I've noticed this same exact behavior before on EC2 as well, but I forgot how I solved it last time...
[20:25] <Jordan_U> upgrayeddd: What is the output of "whoami"?
[20:25] <upgrayeddd> ok, thanks llutz that solved it. I made a new pass for user ubuntu as root with 'passwd ubuntu'
[20:26] <samster34> so, does anyone have an idea how after hours of writing 0xff to the disk, it can be full of random gibberish?!
[20:27] <guntbert> llutz: while that helped in this case it may call troubles if the home directory is encrypted
[20:27] <llutz> guntbert: true
[20:28] <lxz6516> samster34: how excactly did you write to the disk?
[20:29] <samster34> lxz6516: sudo dcfldd pattern=FF pf=/dev/sda bs=4k
[20:29] <samster34> of, not pf
[20:29] <lxz6516> samster34: i don't know dcfldd but i guess it's a pimped version of dd
[20:30] <lxz6516> samster34: and /dev/sda is the correct block device?
[20:30] <dr_willis> how are you reading the disk.. and why all this effort
[20:30] <samster34> yes...I tried it on smaller segments first, and it worked. I ran it again, just to be sure, and it overwrote the gibberish with FF
[20:30] <samster34> it's the ONLY device
[20:30] <lxz6516> samster34: so you are running a live system from cd?
[20:31] <samster34> from USB, yes
[20:31] <lxz6516> samster34: if you run the live system from USB stick or disk, there must be /dev/sdb or something
[20:31] <lxz6516> samster34: or is it a USB cdrom?
[20:32] <samster34> no, usb flash memory
[20:32] <samster34> it's listed as /dev/loop0
[20:32] <samster34> ah, no, /dev/sdg
[20:32] <lxz6516> samster34: /dev/loop0 is just a loop device, it must be connected to something
[20:33] <lxz6516> samster34: see output of   losetup /dev/loop0
[20:33] <samster34> yes, there's two flash memory drives on sdg and sdf respectively
[20:33] <benwalburn> does anyone know how to fix the screen resolution for games under wine? I set the resolution to = to my screen, but there's a huge blank spot on the right
[20:33] <samster34> I'm sure I didn't overwrite those, because the live system still boots from them
[20:33] <lxz6516> samster34: okay
[20:33] <samster34> also, they don't have a capacity of 750GB
[20:33] <lxz6516> samster34: and how do you read the disk?
[20:34] <samster34> sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=4k | hexdump -C
[20:34] <killer> hi
[20:34] <samster34> maybe not the best way to check the whole thing, but it showed discrepancies in the first bytes already
[20:35] <killer> I keep getting low space messages, but I'v hardly used any disk space
[20:35]  * alchemist9 waves back at killer
[20:35] <triad> some alternatives for SPSS ?
[20:35] <lxz6516> samster34: i'd suggest using hexdump -Cv since it doesn't leave out the null bytes
[20:35] <samster34> lxz6516: ok
[20:35] <lxz6516> samster34: but that doesn't explain reading non-ff bytes
[20:36] <samster34> it shows the 0x56 and 0xff patterns I wrote to the disk for testing just now...
[20:36] <lxz6516> samster34: maybe this pimped version of dd is buggy?
[20:36] <s0m3nak3dguy> despite following multiple tutorials for several weeks, I have yet to get my rtl8187 up and running.  Anyone available to help me out?
[20:37] <samster34> lxz6516: I don't think it's THAT buggy, as I said I tested it for a few GB before, and just now again, at I see the expected values on the disk
[20:37] <lxz6516> samster34: hmm
[20:39] <Jordan_U> samster34: Try with normal dd and if=/dev/zero, just to rule out odd things we might not know about this tool.
[20:39] <zykotick9> killer: can you pastebin "df -h"
[20:39] <samster34> I've done dd with /dev/zero
[20:39] <samster34> also works
[20:40] <samster34> hold on, I'm installing some more ram..
[20:42] <Jordan_U> samster34: What do you mean by "also works"?
[20:42] <samster34> Jordan_U: I wrote a couple GB of zero to the disk, and they showed up
[20:42] <r3dLunchb0x_> smaster34: what other command were you trying?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> samster34: Then what problem are you having with dd?
[20:43] <samster34> Jordan_U: it doesn't let me write 0xFF for example
[20:44] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: dcfldd
[20:44] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: is that  a different dd package?
[20:44] <Idestem> Hi!
[20:44] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: yes, it also allows writing of custom patterns
[20:45] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: looking at the homepage now.
[20:45] <samster34> anyway, the problem is...they all appear to write to the disk fine
[20:45] <samster34> but after it was done it was suddenly filled with gibberish
[20:46] <samster34> not that I wouldn't want a random write, but dd from /dev/urandom is incredibly slow
[20:46] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: what exactly are you trying to accomplish with this?
[20:46] <s0m3nak3dguy> can anyone point me to some detailed wireless troubleshooting? I can't get a rtl8187 to work properly..
[20:47] <samster34> I want to wipe the disk
[20:47] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: using /dev/urandom||/dev/random it has to wait till those get some "random" data in them to write
[20:47] <alchemist9> s)m#nak3dguy: what part of the process are you having issues with?
[20:48] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: doesn't really matter to me why it's slow, it just is :)
[20:48] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: do a for loop on the command line and dev/zero one time, /dev/urandom for dd
[20:48] <s0m3nak3dguy> alchemist9: The device is seen, a interface is created, however; I can't connect or see any scan data
[20:49] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: ?
[20:49] <alchemist9> s0m3nak3dguy: let me think a second..
[20:49] <s0m3nak3dguy> alchemist9: ok, ty and take your time, i've got a ll day lol
[20:49] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: how big is the disk?
[20:49] <samster34> 750 GB ~ 715GiB
[20:50] <samster34> I've been letting it write 0xff for hours..
[20:50] <oCean> s0m3nak3dguy: the devices are not blocked?  I'm pretty sure that chipset was supported after about 9.04 ( Jaunty)
[20:50] <s0m3nak3dguy> genii-around: i'm using a recently installed 12.04
[20:50] <s0m3nak3dguy> oCean: rfkill list no blocks
[20:50] <oCean> genii-around: exactly, it "should" work easily
[20:50] <alchemist9> s0m3nak3dguy: okay try configuring it with iwconfig it should pop out an error message on why it isn't connecting...
[20:51] <exetron> test
[20:51] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: look at this: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_wipe_a_hard_drive_clean_in_Linux
[20:51] <exetron> again
[20:51] <pretender> does anyone know how to install Peer Guardian  linux in ubuntu 12.04
[20:51] <oCean> exetron: use #test for that
[20:51] <s0m3nak3dguy> alchemist9: tried that with network-manager disabled(can't think of anything else I should disable), i will find a place to list my dmesg.
[20:51] <benwalburn> does anyone know how to fix the screen resolution for games under wine? I set the resolution to = to my screen, but there's a huge blank spot on the right
[20:52] <skomorokh> i hadn't updated my laptop for a few weeks. did that, saw a bunch of packages so i rebooted. now i have no mouse--it's a thinkpad with the touchpad turned off.  i note that xorg vmmouse and evdev has point releases, anyone else have a porblem with those?
[20:52] <Idestem> Hi!
[20:52]  * alchemist9 waves at Idestem
[20:52] <r3dLunchb0x_> skomokh: you'll have to go into terminal and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:52] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: that#s what I#ve been doing...only writing 0xff for now instead of random data, since I can't wait a week for this thing to do two passes
[20:53] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: its a 750GB disk....dd does byte-by-byte....are you planning on using this disk again?
[20:53] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: first thing i tried, alas, no dice
[20:53] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: also not seeing much informative in the xorg log
[20:54]  * alchemist9 wished a kernel compile didn't take 8 hours T.T
[20:54] <r3dLunchb0x_> skomorokh: you'll have to go into terminal and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:54] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: yes
[20:54] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: ah, gotcha...
[20:54] <kyle__> alchemist9: What on earth are you using?  A 200mhz ARM processor?  It didn't take 8 hours back in the PII days!
[20:54] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: thanks, but i've done this to no effect
[20:55] <r3dLunchb0x_> skomorokh: did you also do "sudo apt-get update"
[20:55] <alchemist9> kyle__: it's only been 4, only took 4 hours on a 400mhz powerpc but i'm running a i386 1.2ghz...
[20:55] <s0m3nak3dguy> alchemist9: pastebin.com/kba87QtN
[20:55] <kyle__> alchemist9: O_o 1.2ghz 386?
[20:55] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: what about shred? you tried that?
[20:56] <alchemist9> kyle__: I'm a sucker for antiques?
[20:56] <kyle__> alchemist9: Oh, you mean 32bit.
[20:56] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: yeaup, that's very much how it found the packages that got installed. i just checked and i'm not using any xorg.conf either (thought maybe i'd need to regenerate that)
[20:56] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: nope. is there a way to monitor it's progress? I'd like to be able to tell how far along it is..
[20:57] <kyle__> alchemist9: Eh, I think my netbook is barely faster than that...1.4, 1.6 maybe...
[20:57] <alchemist9> s0m3nak3dguy:post the url again...
[20:57] <mrsuchyPL> Hi everone
[20:57] <s0m3nak3dguy> alchemist9: http://pastebin.com/kba87QtN
[20:57] <alchemist9> kyle__: I have no clue why it's taking longer on the 386 than it did on the powerpc..
[20:58] <samster34> urgh, what...now my live system won't boot anymore
[20:58] <kyle__> alchemist9: Yea...especially considering gcc never made terribly great code for PPC, so gcc built with gcc is slow on ppc.
[20:58] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: what about creating a new filesystem on it....
[20:58] <kyle__> c.
[20:58] <samster34> kernel panic - not syncing: stack-protector: kernel stack is corrupted in : fffffffff8152a07f
[20:59] <genii-around> samster34: http://linuxcommando.blogspot.ca/2008/06/show-progress-during-dd-copy.html
[20:59] <kyle__> samster34: Have you run a memory test?  Memtest86 probably is on that live-cd boot :)
[20:59] <r3dLunchb0x_> skomorokh: and you're mouse pad still doesn't work? what laptop are you using?
[21:00] <samster34> nevermind
[21:00] <samster34> RAM wasnt all the way in
[21:00]  * kyle__ does recall building gcc 2.9 with 3.x, because 3.x was so damn slow, but produced faster code, and gcc 2.9 was fast.
[21:01] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: whew, I thought maybe you ran a dd from that last site on /dev/sda.... glad that's not the case.
[21:01] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: nah, I even recreated the flash drive from the iso, so that couldnt have been it
[21:02] <alchemist9> kyle__: gcc 3.x isn't too horible on powerpc ran rather smooth sucks on i386, works fine on i686... slackers... XD
[21:02] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: you're going to sell this drive then? are you working for DoD or something and you don't want the content possibly retieved?
[21:03] <kyle__> alchemist9: because we all know what a big audience i386 is vs the fringe processors like xscale core-2 and opteron ;)
[21:03]  * kyle__ blinks
[21:03] <kyle__> wait...xscale is one of the antique arm variants isn't it... errr.  I mean ARM8
[21:03] <kyle__> s/8/9/g
[21:04] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: if I was, I couldn't talk about it :p
[21:05] <samster34> alright, this time after a reboot, the data I wrote to the disk for testing is still there....as you'd expect from sort of permanent storage >_>
[21:05] <r3dLunchb0x_> samster34: lol. well if you're not then I would think creating several partitions on it and filesystems would overwrite anything *important*
[21:05] <proby> hello , when i run synaptic or gdebi it always run as superuser without prompting to a password , anny suggetions how to make the password prompt back??
[21:06] <alchemist9> kyle__: like I said I'm a sucker for antiques...
[21:06] <samster34> r3dLunchb0x_: there's also the option of using the ata secure erase command, but I don#t think you can monitor the progress of that at all :/
[21:06] <proby>  hello , when i run synaptic or gdebi it always run as superuser without prompting to a password , anny suggetions how to make the password prompt back??
[21:06] <kyle__> alchemist9: I have a color-next pizza box in my office.
[21:06] <reisio> proby: hit CTRL+ALT+t, then type 'whoami', then ENTER
[21:06] <r3dLunchb0x_> kyle__: that is impressive.
[21:07] <tyler_d> proby: you have probably modified your sudoers file, verify the contents by doing visudo
[21:07] <proby> reisio am the user
[21:07] <kyle__> r3dLunchb0x_: When I get some of that mythical "downtime", I'm going to hook it up to the network, try it as a daily use terminal.
[21:07] <proby> tyler_d yes i had modified them
[21:07] <mkanyicy> proby, try to investigate whether the NOPASSWD option is set for you by running something like 'sudo visudo'
[21:07] <reisio> proby: what does it say
[21:07] <r3dLunchb0x_> kyle__: that would be awesome. ;-)
[21:07] <proby> debianuser
[21:08] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm trying to find a reliable speedtest to test my internet speed from my ubuntu server
[21:08] <johnjacobjingerh> anyone know anything that works from a command line interface?
[21:08] <munchor> I have installed emacs 24, but it comes in the name of emacs-snapshot. How can I symlink it with emacs? Thank you.
[21:08] <proby> tyler_d am having debianuser ALL=(ALL) ALL is that wrong??
[21:09] <tyler_d> proby: you will need to restore from a backup, or alternately I would suggest reading the manual... man visudo
[21:09] <proby> okey
[21:09] <tyler_d> proby: that does however look right
[21:09] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: Lenovo t520... using the trackpoint, trackpad off in bios. This always Just Worked.
[21:10] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: apologies for blip, was restarting X and took a sec to realise it wasn't spotty cell service and that somehow I needed to restart network-manager
[21:11] <lagger> Hello could someone answer me a quesiton about a non-ubuntu live cd
[21:12] <r3dLunchb0x_> skomorokh: its all good. I have encountered different issues with ubuntu update from 11.04 to 12.04, so just giving you what I figured out for those items
[21:12] <alchemist9> s0m3nak3dguy: try bringing both rtl interfaces down then bringing your problem device back up and connecting the device, I got to jet..
[21:12] <skomorokh> r3dLunchb0x_: yup yup... this was on 12.04, thses are just updates from the last week or so
[21:12] <s0m3nak3dguy> alchemist9: will try again, thx for the help and consideration
[21:12] <BluesKaj> lagger, ask in the the distro distro support chat
[21:13] <lagger> where is the distro distro support chat
[21:13] <lagger> I did, I asked in #kororaa, no one is there
[21:13]  * alchemist9 waves at the people time for work...
[21:13] <BluesKaj> err just distro
[21:13] <lagger> all I want to know is how to open a terminal
[21:14] <lagger> I SAID ALL IWANT TO DO IS KNOW HOW TO PEN  A TERMINAL
[21:14] <tyler_d> lagger: ctrl-alt-t
[21:15] <exetron> i am just starting irssi, nickcolor.pl does not seem to do anything
[21:15] <reisio> "Kororaa was born out of a desire to make Linux easier for new users" :p
[21:15] <reisio> exetron: #irssi
[21:16] <BluesKaj> #fedora , maybe lagger
[21:16] <genii-around> reisio: If tyhey wanted to ease the way, they should offer better online support, apparently
[21:16] <reisio> genii-around: or actually ease it :p
[21:18] <Giddeon> I just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04.  When I log into the terminal, I now get to see some stats about the server.  Is there a command I can run to print those stats on demand?
[21:18] <tyler_d> Giddeon: stat
[21:18] <tyler_d> Giddeon: uptime, sar, top
[21:18] <n58oo> htop
[21:18] <tyler_d> Giddeon: uptime
[21:19] <tyler_d> Giddeon: :p there are lots and lots :)
[21:19] <reisio> might be clear what it is from /etc/issue or something
[21:19] <r3dLunchb0x_> Giddeon: htop, but you might have to install that via sudo apt-get install htop
[21:22] <Giddeon> Thanks guys.  I just tried them all and nothing seems to match the output that's being displayed at login.  htop doesn't appear to be installed yet
[21:22] <reisio> Giddeon: might be clear what it is from /etc/issue or something
[21:22] <Giddeon> would something like this be kicked off by bashrc?
[21:22] <zane78219> hi, i have a gateway ma7 with a broad com wireless card that isnt
[21:22] <zane78219> working
[21:22] <reisio> Giddeon: if it's after login, yeah maybe
[21:23] <reisio> zane78219: which card?
[21:24] <zane78219> reisio, bcm4311
[21:24] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:26] <zane78219> reisio, no luck I tried that already
[21:26] <reisio> define no luck
[21:26] <zane78219> no change, iwconfig shows no wlan
[21:28] <barry2> how do i change directory to my usb stick in temrinal
[21:29] <Volison> HI
[21:29] <Volison> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop.
[21:29] <Volison> But now it won't boot
[21:29] <Volison> I get a black screen and a blinking cursor
[21:30] <machicola> anyone good at math? how does 100 - 25 * 3 % 4 = 97
[21:30] <barry2> yes
[21:30] <barry2> i think...
[21:30] <machicola> ahh screw it, i should move on anyways
[21:30] <Volison> I found on google that if I will hold shift button during hold that will get me to GRUB, but that doesn't work.
[21:30] <barry2> 25*3 = 75, 75%4 =3  so 100-3=97
[21:30] <barry2> machicola, see?
[21:31] <r3dLunchb0x_> machicola: you have to tell it what part to do first with ()'s, or it will do the math it's own way and some of those get parsed before others.
[21:31] <zane78219> :)
[21:31] <Pici> machicola: ##math
[21:31] <tyler_d> lol
[21:31] <barry2> no, im a mathematician
[21:31] <barry2> i can explain
[21:31] <barry2> if he would reply
[21:31] <Pici> its offtopic for *this* channel though
[21:31] <barry2> well i answered  him anywya
[21:31] <zane78219> ^^^ this
[21:32] <KorvinSzanto> My VPN service keeps failing to start
[21:32] <KorvinSzanto> how can I fix this
[21:32] <machicola> oh yeah! thanks barry.... messed up by looking at the remainder as a fraction of the dividing number
[21:33] <machicola> i was doing 75%4=.75
[21:33] <machicola> doh
[21:33] <barry2> use brackets if u want that
[21:33] <Lynnthear> Hi. can anyone point me in the right direction. I'm trying to use emacs and org-mode while not under X. And when I press Alt Right arrow I switch to the next TTY. Where can I find how to deal with this?
[21:33] <machicola> let me just go jump off a cliff now
[21:34] <barry2> carry on machicola
[21:35] <Volison> How does pressing shift key to get GRUB work?
[21:35] <Volison> I am pressing the shift key but I don't get GRUB.
[21:36] <genii-around> Volison: Is it the shift key on the left side of your keyboard?
[21:36] <machicola> barry2: that won't be possible once both legs have been shattered
[21:36] <forevertheuni> peeps is there anyway to change the temp the fan starts to spin much more? I need my laptop fan to start spinning to the max much earlier. cause well cpu is fresh but gpu gets hot because fan is not at max.
[21:36] <DJones> Volison: are you pressing the left shift key, from memory thats the only one that does it
[21:36] <machicola> will need the ambulance to 'carry me on'
[21:37] <OerHeks> Volison, how did you install, using Wubi ?
[21:37] <Volison> oh, ok. I'll try that with left shift key
[21:37] <Volison> OerHeks: No. Fresh install.
[21:38] <OerHeks> Oke, then left shift should work as genii-around + DJones say.
[21:38] <Volison> It doesn't work.
[21:39] <Volison> I keep on pressing it right from the time I press the power button.
[21:39] <Volison> but it still halts with black screen and blinking cursor.
[21:39] <zane78219> additional drivers tells me the driver is active but not in use
[21:40] <Volison> I guess I'll simply do a fresh install again.
[21:40] <Volison> I had done it today only.
[21:46] <Etale> Hi people. I'm trying to get the hang of newsgroups. I used to use them many, many, many years ago, but I can't figure out how hey work now.  In trying to make a newsgroups account in thunderbird, it would only let me make an account for a particular news server. Meaning that for every news server I have to open a new account.
[21:46] <Etale> Is that reasonable? Is there a way to make one account with which I can get into many news servers?
[21:47] <melow01> If I want to encrypt a JPG file for FTP use, is GPG the best method on Ubuntu?
[21:48] <exetron> z
[21:48] <TheLordOfTime> Etale:  what do you mean by newsgroups?
[21:48] <TheLordOfTime> if you mean that ancient obscure thing...
[21:48] <KorvinSzanto> I'm trying to connect to l2tp>ipsec vpn
[21:49] <KorvinSzanto> ths l2tp-ipsec-vpn isn't working
[21:49] <Etale> TheLordOfTime, I do indeed mean that ancient obscure thing.
[21:49] <exetron> z
[21:49] <exetron> ls
[21:49] <Etale> (As ancient and obscure as IRC...)
[21:49] <KorvinSzanto> https://gist.github.com/2975406
[21:51] <dougl> trying to configure my UPS on 12.04 => does anyone know what port apcupsd is using to communicate with my mac and windows clients?
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Etale, nothing obscure about irc , unless you just use IMs and jabber clients etc
[21:52] <zallx> KorvinSzanto: whats that ?
[21:52] <dougl> the server and ups on on my ubuntu machine and I want my mac and pc to shut down when on batt backup and my ubuntu server to remain running as long as possible.
[21:53] <exetron> .
[21:53] <Etale> BluesKaj, I've started using IRC again for the first time in more than a decade very recently. Back when I used it, it was a very different place. I thought I should give the ol' newsgroups a revisit. See what happened to that world...
[21:53] <zallx> write me a linux to ps vita project exported
[21:53] <BluesKaj> dougl, check port 9100
[21:53] <zallx> all libs in one tarlib
[21:54] <dougl> BluesKaj, thanks - giving it a try now
[21:54] <zallx> how do i fix my tvtuner in ubuntu ?
[21:55] <BluesKaj> Etale, yeah newsgroups are still around I think , but I haven't used them for 10 yrs either
[21:55] <reisio> Psi-Jack: and yet I don't see you participate much here, do you pay attention? :p
[21:55] <BluesKaj> zallx, check out tvtime
[21:55] <dougl> BluesKaj, no cigar - but thanks for thinking of me :)
[21:55] <zallx> i got a a alarm clock that plays radio mp3 avi pics ... can i hook the radio wire toa cable coax ?
[21:55] <Etale> BluesKaj, I've been seeing the word "usenet" a lot recently. Is it synonymous with newsgroups?
[21:55] <zallx> BluesKaj: GOT IT INSTALLED ITS JUST NOT WORKING
[21:55] <zallx> oops
[21:56] <kekko> list
[21:56] <BluesKaj> dougl, usenet is a commercial venture afaik
[21:56] <zallx> by her majecsty the queen
[21:56] <KorvinSzanto> the l2tp-ipsec-vpn isn't working, I can't connect
[21:56] <KorvinSzanto> https://gist.github.com/2975406
[21:56] <zallx> its the first email server ?
[21:57] <zallx> usenet ?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> never used usenet
[21:57] <BluesKaj> :)
[21:57] <xxiao> under 12.04, how can I get the button to display a clean desktop?
[21:57] <xxiao> i.e. swap between lots of stuff on window, and nothing on window
[21:57] <zallx> nntp descramble be-nl-vl
[21:57] <xxiao>  could not find it
[21:58]  * xxiao is trying to love unity
[21:58] <exetron> .
[21:58] <KorvinSzanto> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and I need to connect to this vpn: http://kb.iu.edu/data/algk.html
[21:58] <Etale> zallx, is it synonymous with newsgroups?
[21:59] <zallx> i want a key from a descramble pic and use that usenet key broadcast to descramble my coax descrambled input dvb
[21:59] <zallx> thats about the most use of usenet
[21:59] <cybernet> anything interesting around here ?
[22:00] <zallx> Day changed to 23 Jun 2012
[22:01] <xxiao> how to switch back/forward a blank and full-of-terminal desktop under 12.04
[22:01] <xxiao> gosh, why is it that hard
[22:01] <zallx> howto dvb-t in ubuntu ?
[22:01] <zallx> and bugtrack it ?
[22:01] <dougl> BluesKaj> dougl, usenet is a commercial venture afaik - I am sorry... I dont understand what this means to me?
[22:01] <kekko> list
[22:01] <kekko> lista
[22:04] <SkippersBoss> zallx: me-tv will do fime. If you start it from terminal you get what you want mayb: me-tv -v
[22:05] <kekko> list
[22:06] <OerHeks> kekko try !list
[22:07] <BluesKaj> dougl, it costs mobey to use http://www.usenet.net/
[22:07] <BluesKaj> er  money
[22:08] <BluesKaj> bbl
[22:15] <|Long|> what is the best irc client for ubuntu 12.04?
[22:15] <bazhang> !best | |Long|
[22:15] <exetron> irssi?
[22:16] <|Long|> bazhang, LOL
[22:16] <W8KWA> |long| Gome-xchat, or x-chat, or Kvirc
[22:16] <Meistarin> Hello
[22:16] <bazhang> |Long|, dont poll here
[22:16] <exetron> how do u refer to a nother user when sending a message with irssi?
[22:16] <|Long|> W8KWA, thanks
[22:16] <Meistarin> Can anyone help me to get to the rtorrent config file on terminal ?
[22:16]  * W8KWA nods
[22:16] <Meistarin> Tried to google a lot of stuff but no can do :s
[22:16] <zykotick9> Meistarin: ~/.rtorrent.rc
[22:17] <Meistarin> What to write before that ?
[22:17] <Meistarin> I'm totally new to ubuntu
[22:17] <|Long|> W8KWA, do you know the package name for irc apps?
[22:17] <KorvinSzanto> the l2tp-ipsec-vpn isn't working, I can't connect
[22:17] <KorvinSzanto> https://gist.github.com/2975406
[22:17] <W8KWA> use the software center, xchat is in there, so is Kvirc
[22:18] <|Long|> W8KWA, thanks again
[22:18] <W8KWA> np
[22:21] <L3top> KorvinSzanto: are you using linuxmce or vera/mi casa verde?
[22:23] <KorvinSzanto> neither
[22:23] <L3top> Jun 22 14:47:21.662 ipsec__plutorun: Starting Pluto subsystem...      <=-------- that is pluto... the only remnants of pluto are those two projects afaik
[22:23] <KorvinSzanto> then I'm not sure
[22:24] <KorvinSzanto> what are the implications of tht
[22:25] <L3top> Well... it is an automation platform... and if it was LCME then I wrote the current installer/snapshot creator and this would be my fault, and you should be in another room.
[22:26] <L3top> But if you are unaware of it, then you are not likely using it... it is sort of all encompassing.
[22:26] <KorvinSzanto> heh
[22:26] <KorvinSzanto> yeah I haven't actively installed either of those things
[22:26] <L3top> and I have fixed all of the ipsec stuff on the current install
[22:26] <L3top> lol
[22:27] <exetron> how can i repeat ones nick to refer to?
[22:27] <KorvinSzanto> L3top, what would you suggest I attempt to fix this?
[22:27] <KorvinSzanto> I have 0 experience before today with VPN
[22:27] <iHarp> Any luck with Opengl support for Intel GMA 950 on linux?
[22:28] <exetron> iHarp: old revision opengl
[22:28] <iHarp> Can I downgrade?
[22:29] <L3top> I am not really sure... I am more curious what is using pluto.
[22:29] <KorvinSzanto> heh
[22:29] <L3top> I will see what I can figure out... brb.
[22:30] <exetron> tHarp: glxinfo | grep gl  shows your current supported version
[22:31] <upgrayeddd> Hi, how can I add a  GTK theme in Ubuntu 12.04 with normal Unity?
[22:31] <upgrayeddd> I have a .tar.gz gtk theme file. Previously in GNOME, I could just drag it in the Appearance window
[22:31] <iHarp> exetron: http://pastebin.com/947NxsxF
[22:32] <iHarp> exetron: I'm using a macbook 1,1
[22:34] <upgrayeddd> I've tried extracting the theme and moving its folder to /usr/share/themes/ but it doesn't show up in the Appearance > Themes window in Settings
[22:34] <L3top> ok KorvinSzanto... http://linux.die.net/man/8/ipsec_pluto     nothing to do with us.
[22:34] <L3top> I just naturally assumed.
[22:35] <trism> upgrayeddd: the themes in Appearance are hardcoded in 12.04, extract the theme and then use myunity or gnome-tweak-tool to select the theme
[22:35] <KorvinSzanto> meeeeeh
[22:36] <|midnight|> does anyone can recommend a ubuntu based distro for a 1gb netbook? ubuntu 12.04 are slow.
[22:36] <upgrayeddd> thanks trism
[22:37] <KorvinSzanto> |midnight|, lubuntu
[22:37] <iceroot> |midnight|: lubuntu
[22:37] <KorvinSzanto> =]
[22:37] <iceroot> |midnight|: and please remove the | from your nick. its not nice to write that on qwertz
[22:37] <iHarp> |midnight|: Check out xubuntu. Do some reading on it
[22:38] <|midnight|> how about netrunner kde 4.8?
[22:38] <|midnight|> is this too heavy?
[22:38] <KorvinSzanto> I would say so
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> |midnight|  type /nick midnight, pls
[22:38] <iceroot> midnight_: kde is to heavy
[22:39] <iHarp> midnight_: xubuntu and lubuntu are both nice. (lighter)
[22:39] <iceroot> midnight_: lxde (lubuntu) is the best you can find for small hardware
[22:39] <midnight_> i dont want to use xfce or lxde
[22:39] <iceroot> midnight_: then use kde, gnome, unity
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> midnight_  there are light ubuntu based distros, but they are not supported here
[22:40] <midnight_> well thank you guys
[22:42] <iHarp> exetron: did you get my pastebin link ^^
[22:42] <UNG> hello, anyone knows, where can I locate the pbr file?
[22:43] <iceroot> UNG: what should a pbr file be?
[22:44] <UNG> well, i don't know if it is a file, but i need to acces the partition boot record, any ideas on how to do it?
[22:44] <iceroot> UNG: you want the partition table? or the master boot record?
[22:44] <iceroot> UNG: and why you want them?
[22:44] <UNG> partition table
[22:45] <L3top> I am sorry KorvinSzanto, I do not have any insight as to your problem, my fix was a permissions error which I created...
[22:45] <UNG> i want them, because gparted screw up one of my partitions
[22:45] <UNG> it resized it with an error
[22:45] <UNG> and i need to fix it
[22:45] <KorvinSzanto> that's alright L3top it seems to be something that hasn't been fixed yet
[22:45] <TheLordOfTime> UNG what errors are they throwing?
[22:46] <TheLordOfTime> s/are they/is gparted/
[22:46] <KorvinSzanto> maybe it's a feature that isn't used too often or something
[22:46] <KorvinSzanto> also I could be doing it wrong
[22:46] <UNG> it says, that the device size is diffeent, then the volume size
[22:46] <iceroot> UNG: the partition table is not a file, its part of a specific byte-range from the hdd
[22:46] <UNG> different*
[22:46] <iceroot> UNG: and of course you should have make a backup first of that layout
[22:46] <UNG> how can i do that?
[22:46] <iceroot> UNG: dd the first 512bytes from the hdd
[22:47] <iceroot> UNG: BEFORE you destroy it woith gparted
[22:47] <iHarp> Is it possible to upgrade a macbook's EFI from linux?
[22:47] <UNG> dd if=/dev/sda of=/some/where/myCurrentPbr.pbr bs=512 count=1 skip=63 i found this command, and i wondered what to tpy in the pbr directory
[22:47] <UNG> type*
[22:48] <psusi> iHarp, what do you mean?
[22:48] <UNG> or does it just copy the pbr into a file to a directory, that i just choose?
[22:49] <L3top> UNG if=Input "file"    of=output "file"
[22:49] <UNG> thanks
[22:49] <psusi> UNG, it copies sector 63, which may or may not be a pbr, into a file somewhere you specify
[22:49] <iHarp> psusi: There is an EFI upgrade for my macbook. But I only have linux installed. However the upgrade is only available in .dmg format.
[22:50] <UNG> well, lets suppose i put instead 63, the sector, where my ntfs partition starts, is there the pbr stored?
[22:50] <psusi> iHarp, I'm guessing you mean it's a firmware upgrade, and the .dmg probably contains a mac program to flash it... so you would need macos to do that
[22:50] <alchemist9> iHarp: afaik EFI is firmware based updatable in apples confused os...
[22:51] <psusi> UNG, it would be better to not specify any sector and point if to the partition instead
[22:51] <iceroot> UNG: as i said, the partition table is stored in the first 512bytes
[22:51] <psusi> UNG, why would you want to do this though?
[22:51] <iceroot> UNG: of the device
[22:51] <Prenuk> afaik (U)EFI is a replacement of the old BIOS
[22:52] <psusi> iceroot, it's the first 512 bytes of the partition, not the whole disk
[22:52] <iHarp> psusi: Yes, it is a firmware upgrade. So there is no way to do that from linux then?
[22:52] <L3top> UNG: I did not backread... but it is FUNDAMENTAL that you do not dd a partition/drive that is mounted
[22:52] <iceroot> psusi: no, the whole disk
[22:52] <psusi> iHarp, not unless apple provides one, which is unlikely
[22:52] <UNG> psusi: i need to edit the pbr of that partition, because it got corrupted, when resising in gparted
[22:52] <iceroot> psusi: first 512bytes of /dev/sda
[22:52] <psusi> iceroot, no... pbr stands for partition boot record
[22:52] <iceroot> psusi: and i am talking about partition table
[22:52] <Jordan_U> iHarp: It's probably possible to just copy the right file to your EFI System Partition and reboot, but given that this is pretty important stuff I wouldn't trust "possible". Use OSX to configure firmware upgrades.
[22:52] <UNG> L3top: no worries, gparted made sure, that i cant mount it now ;)
[22:53] <Jordan_U> iHarp: I meant, wouldn't trust "probably" :)
[22:53] <psusi> UNG, oh dear... are you sure?  and how do you know what needs edited in it?
[22:53] <iHarp> Jordan_U: Is it possible to upgrade it with virtualbox? I understand that it uses virtual hardware, soooo... lol
[22:53] <alchemist9> iharp: or mount the dmg and see if the program inside is a shell script...
[22:53] <UNG> psusi: i found this tutorial: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13937
[22:54] <Jordan_U> iHarp: Again, probably. So again, I wouldn't try it if I were you.
[22:54] <iHarp> well.. It's nothing a clean install wouldn't fix.. :p
[22:55] <iHarp> then again it coud probably brick it
[22:55] <iHarp> could*
[22:56] <aguitel> i have NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ,what is the correct driver in 12.04 ?
[22:56] <L3top> aguitel: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:57] <aguitel> L3top, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] [10de:0322] (rev a1)
[22:57] <psusi> UNG, did you use a 3 year old version of gparted?  if not it seems unlikely that this would have happened to you... but if you want to try this, I'd suggest dropping the skip argument and point the file argument to the partition instead of the whole disk
[22:57] <L3top> nvidia-173
[22:58] <L3top> !info nvidia-173
[22:58] <L3top> aguitel: nvidia-173
[22:58] <iHarp> file stage1-decrypted.dmg
[22:59] <micr0be> Hi, i need help; I cant start a gdm session with my primary user ... After i wrote my password on login screen, it seems that gdm reboot ( black screen then logon again ) ... I had to set up a new user to start a gdm session...
[23:00] <aguitel> L3top,nvidia-173 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable Recommends: nvidia-settings but it is not going to be installed
[23:00] <micr0be> I'm looking for a way to reset all the gdm configuration, or better solution...   ( natty )
[23:00] <L3top> aguitel: do you have any ppas installed? (ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d)
[23:01] <alchemist9> micr0be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3?
[23:01] <aguitel> L3top, let me see
[23:01] <UNG> psusi: it did happen, and I used the version that I downloaded today from the software center :(
[23:01] <pretender_> can anyone tell me how to install peer guardian for linux in ubuntu 12.04
[23:01] <micr0be> I'll try ... But i tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[23:01] <arguser> hope someone here knows a little about drbl
[23:01] <psusi> UNG, that seems unlikely... what exactly is the error you get when you try to mount it?
[23:01] <L3top> UNG: sorry to backtrack, but can you tell me the original problem, and if you have run fsck?
[23:01] <Miguelito> having commercial dvd playing problems
[23:02] <alchemist9> micr0be: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:02] <arguser> i've made 2 partitons images, but when i want to restore it only show me one
[23:02] <UNG> L3top: i did not run fsck, what does it do?
[23:02] <micr0be> i'm on natty
[23:02] <arguser> the last i've made
[23:02] <micr0be> you want my "uname -a" output ?
[23:02] <L3top> UNG: fsck = file system check... but before that, tell me the original problem please
[23:03] <alchemist9> micr0be: natty used gdm2 if I remember correctly..
[23:03] <micr0be> alchemist9, its a backbox distro, based on ubuntu ... It is installed on a netbook 1201HA with a GMA500 for graphics
[23:04] <UNG> L3top: well i tried to resize my ntfs partition, and I did, but with an error: Current NTFS volume size is bigger than the device size
[23:04] <TheLordOfTime> micr0be:  unless its an official ubuntu derivative, its offtopic here
[23:04] <Miguelito> dvd playback
[23:05] <micr0be> Sorry, but i'm sure there is someone who can help ...
[23:05] <glitsj16> pretender_: https://launchpad.net/~jre-phoenix/+archive/ppa offers a PPA for peerguard, have you tried that?
[23:05] <UNG> psusi: the error in gparted is: error: Current NTFS volume size is bigger than the device size
[23:05] <micr0be> A list of config files/folder to delete to force reconfiguration ?
[23:05] <L3top> UNG: fsck probably is not the answer. I would try to run chkdsk from a win machine... but... this is a bit outside of my area... I don't deal with NTFS except for detection.
[23:06] <alchemist9> micr0be:let me check something...
[23:06] <SkippersBoss> microbe
[23:06] <UNG> L3top: ok, thanks for you trying to help :)
[23:06] <L3top> UNG: chkdsk -f
[23:06] <Jordan_U> UNG: Wait before doing anything (I'm reading complete scrollback).
[23:07] <L3top> UNG: listen to Jordan_U... he is much more clever than I
[23:07] <micr0be> TheLordOfTime, i dont know if its an official distro or not ... all i know is that it is one distro that runs well on my netbook
[23:07] <UNG> L3top: i tried that too, but it couldn't do that, because it said, that some proccess is using the disk, and it can't do anything
[23:07] <UNG> L3top: ok
[23:09] <alchemist9> micr0be:ls /etc|grep gdm should tell you what version of gdm you are running, and if dpkg fails to reconfigure it the way you want then try sudo gdmsetup
[23:10] <micr0be> Okay, wait a minute please :)
[23:11]  * alchemist9 goes AFK for a smoke..
[23:12] <UNG> Jordan_U: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13937 this is where there might be an answer for my problem, but now i'm not sure about doing anything with the pbr
[23:12] <exetron> s
[23:12] <micr0be> alchemist9, the output for ; ls /etc | grep gdm       is "gdm" ...
[23:14] <micr0be> gdm --version output : GDM 2.32.1    alchemist9 .. now i'm gonna try sudo gdmsetup ... Does i need to close any gdm session before ?
[23:14] <pretender_> glitsj16  No will try now thanks
[23:15] <r3dLunchb0x_> question, trying to setup secondary nic attached to a switch I have no control over using private IP to connect to another server attached to the same switch with another private IP...not getting ping response.
[23:16] <schnuffle> r3dLunchb0x_: so you have two nics on the same switch?
[23:16] <glitsj16>  pretender_: if you were familiar with its predecessor 'moblock' and 'mobloquer' the transition should be smooth .. going over the configuration files is always informative .. enjoy
[23:16] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle: yeah, 2 different servers.
[23:17] <schnuffle> r3dLunchb0x_: okay so two server each with a nic on the same switch and what is the problem?
[23:17] <Jordan_U> UNG: Did GParted complete the resize without any error message?
[23:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> not getting a ping response, server1 IP <IP_ADDRESS>, server2 IP <IP_ADDRESS>...routes are setup according to the nic's usign those IP's
[23:18] <UNG> Jordan_U: it did with an error message, I have a whole log with details
[23:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle:
[23:18] <r3dLunchb0x_> not getting a ping response, server1 IP <IP_ADDRESS>, server2 IP <IP_ADDRESS>...routes are setup according to the nic's usign those IP's
[23:18] <Jordan_U> UNG: Please pastebin the complete log.
[23:19] <schnuffle> r3dLunchb0x_:  paste /etc/network/interfaces
[23:19] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle: done on the command line as this will be temporary....want the ifconfig -a?
[23:19] <schnuffle> !paste
[23:20] <UNG> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/sFZbTJk7 some of the sentences are polish, but I hope you will understand most of the stuff
[23:21] <schnuffle> yep
[23:21] <Ezim> is it true that ubuntu have plan to switch to rolling release instead of 6 month release cycle?
[23:21] <sp33drac3r> bye
[23:21] <UNG> Jordan_U: poczatek = begining, koniec = end, rozmiar = size
[23:21] <micr0be> sorry alchemist9, my gdm has bugued, i'm back with a console irc client, so i hope i will not get disconnected again
[23:21] <smw_> Ezim, nope
[23:22] <smw_> Ezim, that seems quite unlikely
[23:22] <exetron> ls
[23:22] <Ezim> smw: ok. thats bad.
[23:22] <smw_> Ezim, it is bad?
[23:23] <UNG> Jordan_U: sprawdzanie błędów systemu plików na /dev/sda5 i naprawianie w miarę możliwości  00:00:06    ( UDANE ) = checking file system errors on /dev/sda5 and fixing them (succsesfull)
[23:23] <sphinx> Hello fellas.
[23:23] <schnuffle> r3dLunchb0x_: does one of the servers has more nics
[23:24] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle: both servers have multiple nics
[23:24] <sphinx> The last version of Wine is available ?
[23:24] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle: these nics have never been used before
[23:24] <Ezim> smw: yeah 6 month release cycle to get the latest package feels wrong
[23:24] <smw_> Ezim, it feels right to me
[23:24] <smw_> Ezim, it makes things much more stable
[23:24] <smw_> especially when using an lts
[23:24] <schnuffle> r3dLunchb0x_: aha, but each server has only one active, the one connected to the switch?
[23:25] <smw_> Ezim, there are many rolling release distros for you to use
[23:25] <sphinx> I'm asking this because one bug from Wine 1.5.6 while opening the Office 2010 was solved and the developers team released the 1.5.7
[23:25] <Ezim> smw_: lts is really god, but I feel it should be 1 version for lts and other can use rolling release.
[23:25] <schnuffle> I'm off for 10 minutes
[23:25] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle, no the eth0 on both hosts are active and have different IP's and are connected to a different switch which I have no access too
[23:25] <Ezim> in some way rhel (lts) is for fedora
[23:25] <smw_> Ezim, I disagree. If I wanted rolling release, I would not use ubuntu
[23:26] <pretender_> thanks installed via ppa
[23:26] <Ezim> smw_: :) I am not using ubuntu. I wanted to ask if ubuntu/canonical such a plan to switch to rolling release or not.
[23:26]  * alchemist9 hides from ubottu
[23:27] <john38> Anybody know how to do a search 12.04 LTS directories??
[23:28] <r3dLunchb0x_> schnuffle: http://pastebin.ca/2163983
[23:28] <alchemist9> john38: find
[23:28] <zykotick9> john38: could you be more specific?  "find /path/to/start/from -iname foo"
[23:29] <Jordan_U> UNG: OK, I was trying to make sure that the problem wasn't simply that the partition table was modified before the resize completed successfully, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It's a little frustrating that the error message points to an ntfsresize FAQ which is on a page that appears to be down.
[23:29] <john38> alchemist9, im trying to map an exe to desktop i just dont know what directory its in?
[23:29] <john38> zykotick9, im trying to map an exe to desktop i just dont know what directory its in?
[23:29] <alchemist9> john38:okay it's installed in wine?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> UNG: I'm not sure where to go from here, sorry.
[23:29] <sphinx> Does anybody knows when the Ubuntu will package the Wine 1.5.7 for I get the binaries ?
[23:30] <ubuntuanao> compatriots, I am a linux newbie. Could you please provide me with guidance on how I can open a text file, edit it, and save it, using the terminal?
[23:30] <john38> alchemist9, no its a lightscribe software
[23:30] <UNG> Jordan_U: well i think i found a solution here: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13937 maybe it will work for me
[23:30] <r3dLunchb0x_> ubuntuanao: use vim, learn vi commands
[23:30] <Ezim> ubottu: gksudo gedit
[23:30] <jimi_> I am configuring my system to verify logins against ldap... does this apply to ssh as well? or does this apply only to graphical logins?
[23:30] <alchemist9> john38: .exe denotes typically windows software...
[23:30] <glitsj16> sphinx: have you tried the launchpad pages for the Ubuntu Wine Team yet? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine might have more detailed info on development trunk status ..
[23:30] <Ezim> ubuntuanao: gksudo gedit
[23:31] <john38> alchemist9, well not exe but the file that runs the program it downloaded it for linux
[23:32] <john38> alchemist9, i just want to do a search for files in directories like the old ubuntu let me do
[23:32] <Miguelito> question - is there any program for linux that is close to Roxio's DVD Creator?
[23:32] <ubuntuanao> Ezim and others, thank you, how would I 'save as' using command line?
[23:32] <r3dLunchb0x_> Ezim: ubuntuanao did say on the terminal
[23:32] <sphinx> glitsj16, I talk with them and the answer was that I gotta to wait until the Wine was packaged.
[23:33] <Ezim> r3dLunchb0x_: okey. then nano is easy.
[23:33] <alchemist9> john38: hmm try this "find /|grep lightscribe" should search the entire root directory
[23:33] <john38> alchemist9, thanks
[23:33] <john38> alchemist9, in terminal?