[06:23] <jumble> i just dont trust that rickety old IDE drive. and i dont like the idea of it possibly putting the boot loader on a slave device.
[06:24] <solid_liq> SilentDis: maybe sprint broadband through their cell system?
[06:24] <SilentDis> solid_liq:  no towers.
[06:24] <craigbass1976> Ubuntu is totally slower than death.  Last night, edgy was running ok, but today after installing 6.06 (needed to try something) I'm a bit shocked
[06:24] <tychon> Well, if you're doing anything streaming or real-time, such as games, it's not that good, but it's much better than 56k for things like browsing the web and IRC.
[06:24] <craigbass1976> What do you all supoose happened?
[06:24] <solid_liq> SilentDis: or that satellite stuff, though it has plenty of latentcy
[06:24] <RaBiD> hey, I have a problem if anyone can help me with it
[06:24] <SilentDis> solid_liq:  trust me, i've checked into EVERYTHING.
[06:24] <solid_liq> SilentDis: that sucks
[06:25] <SilentDis> solid_liq:  i actually play SWG (thank you, cedega), and it runs fine on dialup... just large downloads are what bork me :P
[06:25] <solid_liq> SilentDis: I'm unhappy when I have to settle for 3mb cablemodem, or esp. if I have to settle for 768k dsl heheh
[06:25] <zor0> solid_liq: run your own cable?
[06:25] <RaBiD> logging into an xgl or gnome session with my normal account results in gnome not loading properly
[06:25] <solid_liq> zor0: huh?
[06:25] <RaBiD> I can't see the background image
[06:25] <RaBiD> but if I log in as root it's just fine
[06:25] <SilentDis> zor0:  the $1500 install and $300/month for a T1 to my house is a bit steep in price rofl
[06:25] <RaBiD> how can I reset the gnome settings ack to normal?
[06:25] <solid_liq> zor0: you mean SilentDis run one?  like a point to point T1?
[06:26] <tychon> SilentDis, I've yet to fiddle with Cedega. Still using plain old wine, heh.
[06:26] <Pie-rate> OOOK, now, time for a whole new (probably very hard) project. World of Warcraft + wine!
[06:26] <Naik0> Hey i need help to install ny ATI Radeon 9800 driver
[06:26] <solid_liq> SilentDis: esp. with the pay rates in rural areas I'm sure
[06:26] <zor0> solid_liq: hm... have to make it a T3 and then sell hosting on it to offset the cost
[06:26] <NoUse> Freshwaterlarry yes the gnome printer wizard supports Windows shared printers
[06:26] <SilentDis> tychon:  BIG thumbs up to TransGaming.  games just WORK. :)
[06:27] <solid_liq> zor0: yeah but as he already said, his neighbors are far from interested in tech
[06:27] <Terminus> RaBiD: are you sure? my method cannot be used to recover settings. `rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome*`
[06:27] <Shadowpillar> Pie-rate: needs patching
[06:27] <Naik0> somebody with ATI gfx card who can help me?
[06:27] <Celldweller> ok i thhought i had it
[06:27] <solid_liq> Naik0: wazzup?
[06:27] <Shadowpillar> SilentDis: crossover works better than cedega in a lot of cases
[06:27] <tychon> Pie-rate, appdb claims it's gold.
[06:27] <Naik0> solid_liq: can i pm you?
[06:27] <SilentDis> zor0:  if it could make them harvest corn or milk cows faster, i'd be rolling in the money rofl
[06:27] <Celldweller> now it tells me that i do not have permissions to its parent folder
[06:27] <solid_liq> Naik0: ati fglrx drivers?
[06:27] <RaBiD> when I just log into it everything works like the gnome panels and what not, just not the desktop
[06:27] <tychon> Parent folder?
[06:27] <Celldweller> yea
[06:27] <tychon> To .Trash?
[06:27] <Celldweller> yea
[06:27] <tychon> Er.
[06:27] <zor0> no, I mean general hosting, start a colo in the middle of nowhere
[06:27] <Celldweller> i have NOOOOOO idea why
[06:27] <Celldweller> lol
[06:28] <tychon> How could you not have access to your own home folder...?
[06:28] <SilentDis> zor0:  thought about that too.  :)
[06:28] <Shadowpillar> cedega is suffering from the karma bomb they dumped on themselves for fucking the WINE project over IMHO
[06:28] <SilentDis> zor0:  startup capitol would be a pain
[06:28] <Shadowpillar> the fact games are becoming BUGGIER with each release
[06:28] <Celldweller> i have no friggen clue
[06:28] <Naik0> !ati
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <SilentDis> !crossover
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <malt> who here uses phpmyadmin?
[06:28] <solid_liq> Naik0: just go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:28] <malt> or who here has installed phpmyadmin?
[06:28] <SilentDis> shadowpillar:  looking it up now...
[06:29] <Celldweller> so what in the world
[06:29] <tychon> Not sure. What are you trying to do to your home folder, exactly?
[06:29] <Terminus> !language | Shadowpillar
[06:29] <ubotu> Shadowpillar: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <Naik0> solid_liq:  yes i did
[06:30] <RaBiD> My gnome is all messed over, the panels work and what not just no background image, no icons, etc
[06:30] <solid_liq> Naik0: you already tried that?
[06:30] <ski-worklap> does running ubuntu in 64 bit mode do anything good if i don't have 4gb of ram?
[06:30] <solid_liq> Naik0: do the option 2
[06:30] <solid_liq> Naik0: that works best
[06:30] <solid_liq> Naik0: are you on amd64?
[06:30] <Naik0> i did all the steps but when i did "sudo aticonfig --initial" command it told me that the command dont exist
[06:30] <ski-worklap> the only thing i can think of are compatibility issues
[06:30] <Celldweller> im not doing anything to my home folder
[06:30] <malt> I tryed to installing phpmyadmin on ubuntu by using sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin and it installed but i couldn't access it by http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ wonder why?
[06:30] <Naik0> intel 4
[06:31] <Celldweller> i downloaded a bunch of iso files of other distros... and i put them in the trash can and they wont go away
[06:31] <solid_liq> Naik0: so option #2 should be straigtforward
[06:31] <TGPO> ski-worklap, I dumped the 64bit and put 32 back on, too many hassles
[06:31] <solid_liq> Naik0: but I only have ATI hardware on amd64, so I can't tell ya for sure
[06:31] <ski-worklap> TGPO, tell me more about the hassles?
[06:31] <tychon> And sudo rm -rf * won't do away with them?
[06:31] <Naik0> check the link that i pm you
[06:31] <Celldweller> no beccause then it says something about desktop and blah blah
[06:31] <tychon> Er.
[06:31] <Celldweller> because its a folder
[06:32] <ski-worklap> i'm wondering if i might want to do a slim 64bit install, with VMs off of that
[06:32] <TGPO> ski-worklap, multi-media issues, wine issues, pretty much anything other than web browsing and word processing was a pain to get working well
[06:32] <tychon> So you're in /home/Celldweller/.Trash, you type sudo rm -rf * and it tells you something about the desktop?
[06:32] <ski-worklap> so my "primary OS" would be a 32bit domU
[06:32] <Celldweller> one second
[06:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i do 'cp (somefolder) /home/(myacct)/Desktop' in the console, but it then says 'cp: (somefolder) omitted' it even does this when i sudo cp.
[06:32] <ski-worklap> TGPO, hmm
[06:33] <ski-worklap> think i might try it anyway
[06:33] <Naik0> solid_liq: did you checked?
[06:33] <solid_liq> Naik0: did I what?
[06:33] <TGPO> ski-worklap, IMHO 64 bit should be relegated to tinkering until support is more generalized for it
[06:33] <Naik0> did you check the site i gave you?
[06:33] <ski-worklap> TGPO, well i do a lot of tinkering
[06:33] <ski-worklap> in particular i want to have a virtual server farm
[06:34] <naik0_> sorry solid_liq
[06:34] <TGPO> ski-worklap, up to you, but after 2 weeks of headaches I gave up on it for the time being
[06:34] <ski-worklap> so i can build my code in nbsd, fbsd, obsd, linux, you name it all programmatically
[06:34] <ski-worklap> but then again, xen3 doesn't support that stuff without pacifica, and i'm not sure i have that... hrm
[06:34] <Celldweller> sweet!, thanks tychon it worked
[06:34] <ski-worklap> by"that stuff" i'm referring to fbsd/obsd
[06:34] <SilentDis> ugh.  18mb file for crossover.  *adds it to download manager to work on while I sleep*
[06:34] <naik0_> solid_liq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[06:35] <ccmods> Has anyone run into a situation where the liveCD works fine with all your network connections, but after install DHCP never returns an IP?
[06:35] <naik0_> solid_liq: when i came to "sudo aticonfig --initial" command it says that it cannot find aticonfig command
[06:36] <ski-worklap> Naik0, rehash
[06:36] <ski-worklap> or open a new shell
[06:36] <ski-worklap> or do a find . -name aticonfig
[06:36] <naik0_> nope, i did just that
[06:36] <fit4lfe_> Starting auto nice daemon: invoke-rc.d: initscript and, action "start" failed.
[06:36] <fit4lfe_> dpkg: error processing and (--configure):
[06:36] <fit4lfe_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:36] <naik0_> shouldnt i download something from ati's homepage?
[06:36] <corevette> how come frostwire won't open?
[06:36] <fit4lfe_> can someone help me with this
[06:36] <SilentDis> gonna take off for a bit all, take care, and thanks :)
[06:36] <ski-worklap> Naik0, that sounds like binary blob talk. for shame!!!
[06:36] <Pie-rate> Is there any way to bind <windows button>D to show/hide desktop?
[06:37] <corevette> how come frostwire will open for me?
[06:37] <Kanwal--f> anybody have yahoochat working properly in linux?  Big reward
[06:37] <ski-worklap> Pie-rate, there sure is
[06:37] <fit4lfe_> does anyone know what that error is ?
[06:37] <naik0_> solid_liq: sorry for being a begginer on linux
[06:37] <naik0_> beginner
[06:37] <fit4lfe_> really throwing me for a loop right now
[06:37] <Celldweller> better than being a windows user
[06:37] <sysdoc> lol
[06:38] <sysdoc> amen!
[06:38] <Celldweller> hehe
[06:38] <fit4lfe_> is there a paste I can use for my error
[06:38] <naik0_> !paste
[06:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <Celldweller> installing slackware on the other computer... we went to a friends house cuz he had 8 meg download
[06:38] <Celldweller> lol
[06:38] <sysdoc> And that's windohs! btw...:)
[06:38] <H3g3m0n> Good to see there a Klingon translation of Ubuntu in the works =P: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+lang/tlh
[06:38] <naik0_> so i think solid_liq can help me instead of making fun of me
[06:39] <Celldweller> lolyea
[06:39] <_goofy_> anyone know a ftp server software with a gui
[06:39] <Madpilot> H3g3m0n, I think there's tranlations into at least one of Tolkein's Elvish languages underway too :)
[06:39] <Celldweller> or i can help you
[06:39] <Celldweller> havent had much experience
[06:39] <Celldweller> but enough to know somethings
[06:39] <Pie-rate> ski-worklap: how would i bind <windows key>D to show/hide desktop?
[06:40] <Pie-rate> without installing Windows XP?
[06:40] <fit4lfe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/
[06:40] <Pie-rate> :)
[06:40] <Celldweller> i got the darn broadcom 4318 or whatever working on here
[06:40] <Celldweller> took forever
[06:40] <bimberi> _goofy_: gproftpd
[06:41] <bimberi> !info gproftpd
[06:41] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.6-1 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 576 kB
[06:41] <bimberi> !winkey | Pie-rate
[06:41] <ubotu> Pie-rate: To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[06:41] <noodles12> When i access system>administrator>printers it says " The CUPS server could not be contacted" does that mean CUPS isn't installed?
[06:42] <bimberi> noodles12: perhaps it's not running.  try a 'sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart'
[06:42] <fit4lfe_> did anyone check out that pastebin
[06:43] <carl> ls
[06:43] <carl> exit
[06:43] <CoRnJuLiOx> i need some help. XMMS isn't playing sound anymore, and i cant figure out what the problem is.
[06:44] <noodles12> bimberi: you rock it worked
[06:44] <Celldweller> hmmmmm
[06:44] <noodles12> if i am trying to connect to a printer connected to an xp machine on a network. do i need it's driver?
[06:44] <bimberi> noodles12: cool
[06:44] <Celldweller> who's an operator in offtopic?
[06:44] <bimberi> noodles12: yes
[06:45] <Celldweller> is the whole clearwire banned
[06:45] <Celldweller> or just me
[06:45] <Pie-rate> i can't find "configuration editor"
[06:45] <Celldweller> lol
[06:45] <Madpilot> Celldweller, there are several ops present in -offtopic, and here
[06:45] <bimberi> Celldweller: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-offtopic list
[06:45] <Celldweller> i know that is why im askin
[06:45] <noodles12> bimberi: damn.. i have a lexmark x6170... =/
[06:45] <fit4lfe_> can I ask an op about my error
[06:45] <Madpilot> Celldweller, and it's just you, not your whole IP...
[06:45] <Homer> how I get boot.ini to dual boot Ubuntu and XP
[06:45] <fit4lfe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/
[06:46] <AnthonyG> Homer: If only it were that simple :D
[06:46] <Homer> I have gthis
[06:46] <Homer> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
[06:46] <Homer> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)="Kubuntu Linux Dapper 6.06"
[06:46] <Celldweller> is there a reason why ? lol cuz i havent been inthere for a while.. and i dont cause trouvle
[06:46] <Homer> will that work
[06:46] <Celldweller> but im not going to moan about it
[06:46] <bimberi> noodles12: linuxprinting.org might have some tips
[06:46] <Celldweller> i was just wondering
[06:47] <Madpilot> Celldweller, your ban is more than 48rhs old, so it's gone.
[06:47] <Madpilot> Celldweller, just so you know, any new ban goes for a week.
[06:47] <Celldweller> umm ok  i was just wondering how it got here but i gotcha
[06:48] <Celldweller> thanks
[06:48] <AG28> Any grub "experts" on tonight?
[06:49] <bimberi> !who
[06:49] <ubotu> Please don't ask questions like "Who knows about ....".  Just ask the question you would ask them.  If someone can help, they'll answer.
[06:49] <soop> i just got dugg
[06:49] <soop> hahaha
[06:49] <Pie-rate> !winkey
[06:49] <ubotu> To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[06:49] <AG28> Fine, how do you fix a stage2 hang when using grub to boot into XP?
[06:50] <fit4lfe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/
[06:51] <lostsync> i've been trying to follow these instructions: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Tascam&card=US-428.&chip=EZUSB%2C+FPGA&module=usb-usx2y#Inst to get my audio interface working.  upon reaching the modprobe some-modules part i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34914/  can someone tell my why?
[06:52] <lostsync> im getting really frustrated.  this is the 3rd sound device i cannot get working in this machine...
[06:53] <_goofy_> im trying to set up gproftpd should i put the computers ip address on the line DNS name or ip address of the server
[06:54] <Pie-rate> is there a way to detect networks in range on a wireless network?
[06:54] <Pie-rate> kinda like with the windows gui
[06:54] <Homer> yah wifi manager
[06:54] <Homer> !wifi
[06:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:55] <ski-worklap> hmm i liked the iwlist wlan0 scan thing suggested by someone or other
[06:55] <Pie-rate> is there a way to detect wireless networks in range, like what the MS windows gui does?
[06:56] <ski-worklap> Pie-rate, see what i just typed
[06:56] <ski-worklap> also
[06:56] <ski-worklap> !wifi
[06:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:56] <ski-worklap> and apparently there is something called "wifi manager" too
[06:57] <Pie-rate> oh did that previous message make it through? i thought i was disconnected
[06:57] <ski-worklap> yah it did
[06:57] <_goofy_> !gproftpg
[06:57] <ski-worklap> but you probably didn't see the resposes, so i echoed them
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <_goofy_> !proftpg
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <Pie-rate> mmk
[06:58] <_goofy_> !gproftpd
[06:58] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.6-1 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 576 kB
[06:58] <ski-worklap> isnt proftpd evil and non-free?
[06:59] <fit4lfe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/
[06:59] <napo> how i check which defauldepth i use ?
[07:01] <cbruno> hi
[07:01] <cbruno> #cedarlug
[07:02] <jason_> Hey guys how ya doin ok ttyl kthxbai
[07:03] <TypoNAM> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu 6.10 via PXE network install and during the initial mirror setup for "Download installer components" it keeps saying failed to download a file
[07:03] <TypoNAM> yet I check my apache2 log (I have my own mirror hosted via ISO mounted image) and nothing in error.log about non-existant files
[07:04] <TypoNAM> only thing I see that there is a possible problem is that in console 4 it says: annal[7460] : WARNING **: bad d-i Package file
[07:05] <TypoNAM> is the PXE installer simply broken?
[07:06] <MrKeuner> hi, how safe is to remove auto removable packages in synaptic?
[07:07] <Arrick> !grub
[07:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:07] <Arrick> !dualboot
[07:07] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:09] <towsonu2003> hmm
[07:09] <towsonu2003> !winmodem
[07:09] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:09] <towsonu2003> nice :)
[07:10] <Celldweller> hmm
[07:10] <cmweb> Finaly got it back on... Thanks guys
[07:11] <Madpilot> towsonu2003, knowing how to ask the bot politely is 90% of helping here, 90% of the time ;)
[07:11] <cmweb> guys the ubu* are bots....
[07:11] <towsonu2003> Madpilot, :)
[07:11] <noodles12> !lexmark
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <Madpilot> !printer
[07:11] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:12] <cmweb> Are their any administrators in here
[07:12] <cmweb> Stop harassing the bots
[07:12] <ArrenLex> cmweb: "there", and yes.
[07:12] <megaqwerty_> does anyone know how I could download all of the packages that could be required for a debian package all at onece?
[07:12] <Madpilot> !msgthebot
[07:12] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[07:12] <lostsync> ArrenLex, fix my sound problems and i'll give you a large trout to slap me with as a reward
[07:12] <lostsync> ;)~
[07:12] <chandu> megaqwerty_,To which package you want
[07:12] <towsonu2003> Madpilot, thanks
[07:12] <ArrenLex> megaqwerty_: apt-get install -d package
[07:12] <megaqwerty_> gnome-network-manager
[07:12] <cmweb> arrenlex, ok i dont like beinr corrected every time i missuse a word
[07:13] <ArrenLex> lostsync: what sound problems are these?
[07:13] <chandu> megaqwerty_, you want to install that ..or you wnat to download deb packages for that and its dependent pacakges
[07:13] <lostsync> aw that was mean
[07:14] <megaqwerty_> chandu: the deb package and it's dependent packages
[07:14] <chandu> megaqwerty_, you can use "apt-get -d install gnome-network-manager" .. this will do download only packages to you /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:14] <chandu> megaqwerty_, Previous command is only to download ..it wont install
[07:15] <Pie-rate> i installed network-manager, but how do i get it to start?
[07:15] <chandu> megaqwerty_, make sure ur /var/cache/apt/archives doesnt contain nay deb files .. so you can get only the pcakges related to what u want
[07:15] <megaqwerty_> chandu: yes, the problem is that I need to give these packages to a friend who is just starting with ubuntu, and he doesn't have internet outside of his wifi.
[07:15] <megaqwerty_> chandu: will this download all dependencies even if I already have these fulfilled?
[07:16] <megaqwerty_> chandu: (on my box)
[07:16] <chandu> megaqwerty_, ok fine ..then you use the aboeve command .. it will download all the packages needed to install gnome-network-manager
[07:16] <megaqwerty_> chadu: okay, cool. Thank you very much!
[07:16] <draeath> Anyone know how to get the screensaver control panel in Kubuntu to show ALL the configuration? It seems that I have no way to specify things like colormap, fading, image/text/video sources etc
[07:16] <chandu> megaqwerty_, most welcome
[07:17] <Pie-rate> I installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome, but how do i get them to run?
[07:17] <megaqwerty_> chandu: it didn't work
[07:17] <Skwid_> when i connect to my computer via ssh, what's the easiest way to get a file to the computer i am actually using ?
[07:18] <chandu> megaqwerty_, didnt work
[07:18] <draeath> Skwid_: scp username@host:FILEPATH localfilepath
[07:18] <megaqwerty_> chandu: downloading all packages. It just tells me "network-manager-gnome is already the newest version."
[07:18] <chandu> megaqwerty_, what you have specified ur repo path in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:18] <draeath> Skwid_: nevermind, i misread your question
[07:18] <Skwid_> draeath: uh ?
[07:18] <chandu> megaqwerty_, ok ..means in your system its already present
[07:18] <megaqwerty_> chandu: right
[07:19] <megaqwerty_> chandu: I need the package and all of it's dependencies to give to my friend who doesn't have internet right now.
[07:19] <megaqwerty_> chandu: (at least in windows)
[07:20] <megaqwerty_> chandu *linux
[07:20] <chandu> megaqwerty_, ok ..wait for a moment I will b back
[07:20] <megaqwerty_> chandu: k.
[07:20] <andy__> where can i find a list of packages in the latest ubuntu server edition?
[07:20] <MrKeuner> hi, how safe is to remove auto removable packages in synaptic?
[07:21] <pestilence> i have a intel wireless 3945 card, and it doesn't configure properly on boot.  after boot, if i type "sudo ifup eth1" it comes up fine...how do i figure out why it isn't configuring on boot?
[07:21] <xen> hey, I think my man path is messed up...anyone have advice on fixing it?  (ie. man -k strftime returns nothing)
[07:22] <draeath> Anyone know how to get the screensaver control panel in Kubuntu to show ALL the configuration? It seems that I have no way to specify things like colormap, fading, image/text/video sources etc
[07:23] <katanaswordfish> im a cpu noob; are p4s 32bit or 64bit?
[07:24] <what_if> 32bit
[07:24] <katanaswordfish> k thanks
[07:24] <what_if> channels awfully quiet for having 900 prople
[07:24] <what_if> *people
[07:25] <lostsync> make that 899
[07:25] <lostsync> make that 900
[07:25] <noodles12> Has anyone gotten a lexmark x6170 printer working?
[07:26] <lostsync> wb :p
[07:26] <ArrenLex> lostsync: sorry. xD
[07:27] <ArrenLex> lostsync: got your audio sorted out yet?
[07:27] <Pie-rate> hmm, wireless networking still isn't working with networkmanager
[07:27] <lostsync> no...i'm pretty sure it's a lost cause at this point.
[07:27] <ArrenLex> lostsync: on an unrelated note, were you once part of *NSYNC? Because that would make sense.
[07:27] <malt> malt@malt-server:/var/www/phpmyadmin$ sudo cp /var/www/phpmyadmin /home/malt
[07:27] <malt> cp: omitting directory `/var/www/phpmyadmin'
[07:27] <ArrenLex> lostsync: symptoms?
[07:28] <malt> when i try to move phpmyadmin why does it auto put a `
[07:28] <malt> where it saids can't find directory
[07:28] <lostsync> i did a minimal install then installed xubuntu-desktop from terminal and i think that for some reason doing it that way made setup fail to detect/configure my audio
[07:28] <ArrenLex> lostsync: No. Installing a -desktop sets you up with everything you would have gotten had you installed from a desktop CD.
[07:28] <cool372> Hey
[07:28] <ArrenLex> lostsync: try: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss
[07:29] <lostsync> that's what i thought until all ofth is started happening
[07:29] <dabaR> malt: it can find it, but is omitting it. try -r option.
[07:29] <cool372> anyone know rockstar supernova?
[07:29] <Empiric> any idea /join #suse
[07:29] <ArrenLex> lostsync: then, run "amixer" and pastebin the output for me.
[07:29] <lostsync> i have all three of those packages and in fact have compiled alsa* from source trying to get my semiproaudio interface working
[07:29] <noodles12> dabaR: i checked those printing thing but the thing is they ddin't make a linux driver for my printer =/
[07:29] <malt> dabaR so like sudo cpr?
[07:29] <dabaR> malt: cp -r
[07:29] <dabaR> and no sudo
[07:30] <dabaR> cause you are copying to your own directory, which you have permissions for
[07:30] <sureshot> silly question have you turn on your sound system from cmos if it is built in
[07:30] <ArrenLex> lostsync: yeah, if you've gone as far as compiling it from source I'd say if anything could be done to make it work, it would have come out already. = /
[07:31] <peanutb> how reliable is it to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:31] <lostsync> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34915/
[07:31] <firebird619> My monitors native resolution is 1680X1050, but the resolution it is using is 1280x1084. In System==>Preferences==>Screen Resolution, it doesn't show 1680x1050, but in xorg.conf it lists it. How can I get it to use the native resolution?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> peanutb: that is directly proportional to how nonstandard your system is.
[07:31] <dabaR> !fixres > firebird619
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Or, should I say, inversely proportional.
[07:31] <firebird619> dabaR: Thanks
[07:31] <peanutb> its pretty standard, no wifi,etc.
[07:31] <chandu> megaqwerty_, I hope that same command should work .. you try it out once ...and check your /var/cahce/apr/archives
[07:31] <ArrenLex> lostsync: kindly pastebin the output of "lspci".
[07:32] <lostsync> it's a usb interface
[07:32] <dabaR> firebird619: in particular, the vertical and horizontal refresh rate section. manual entry into .conf file
[07:32] <peanutb> Is automatix as big a problem as it is made out to be?
[07:32] <ArrenLex> !automatix
[07:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:32] <ArrenLex> (i.e. yes)
[07:32] <peanutb> ok
[07:32] <firebird619> dabaR: Ok, Thank You.
[07:32] <ArrenLex> lostsync: oh. Ouch. That might be hard.
[07:32] <peanutb> a fresh install it is
[07:32] <ArrenLex> peanutb: are you running gnome or kde?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> peanutb: or another DE?
[07:33] <lostsync> yeah...that's why i was having to compile it via alsaproject's instructions on my device
[07:33] <peanutb> started with xfce, then gnome, then kde
[07:33] <ArrenLex> peanutb: so you're on KDE right now?
[07:33] <peanutb> gnome actually
[07:33] <ArrenLex> peanutb: I was on KDE and I upgraded without problems by doing it in small chunks.
[07:33] <peanutb> how?
[07:33] <lostsync> but onboard and an old ISA card are both also having very similar issues...they are seen as PnP devices but aren't listed in asound/cards or anywhere else
[07:34] <ArrenLex> peanutb: add the edgy line to your sources.list. Then pick a package and apt-get install it directly. It will also install a bunch of stuff with it. When it's done, pick another package to install, etc.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> peanutb: if you're running gnome and don't have anything else esoteric, update should work for you.
[07:34] <peanutb> ok
[07:34] <lostsync> the onboard card is an ESS which is the same thing i have in the computer that just broke causing me to try fighting with this p2 to have a working system until xmas
[07:34] <ArrenLex> peanutb: remember to apt-get install xserver-xorg at the end just in case.
[07:35] <lostsync> i bought an 80gig drive the day my athlon crapped out :/
[07:35] <peanutb> wouldent want to loose that
[07:35] <ArrenLex> peanutb: "lose".
[07:35] <peanutb> sorry
[07:36] <Naik0> !sourcelist
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !sources.list | Naik0
[07:36] <ubotu> Naik0: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:37] <Naik0> thanks ArrenLex
[07:37] <Naik0> !easysource
[07:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:37] <sixaxis> wurup
[07:37] <Pie-rate> I want to get my laptop's wifi card working by tomorrow, and i'm totally lost now. i installed networkmanager, disabled all the networks except lo, logged out and back in and networkmanager could only find a wired connection
[07:37] <lostsync> well...
[07:37] <lostsync> i've spent all day on this...i'm just going to try a full reinstall and hope for the best
[07:38] <ArrenLex> lostsync: It definitely won't help you, but okay...
[07:38] <lostsync> i neeeeeeeeeed sound.
[07:38] <Pie-rate> anyone have any suggestions on my wifi problems?
[07:38] <ArrenLex> !wifi | Pie-rate
[07:38] <ubotu> Pie-rate: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:38] <sixaxis> I just voided the warranty of a DVD duplicator and installed the driver on my putter now I've gotta find out how to burn from one DVD to the other directly
[07:38] <ArrenLex> *helpful grin*
[07:38] <sixaxis> !DVD
[07:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:38] <Pie-rate> i have seen that a million times
[07:39] <sixaxis> !ripdvd
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ripdvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <Pie-rate> i should see if CSLUG is doing an installfest any time soon, might be some people there that know more about it than me
[07:39] <sixaxis> !dcdrip
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <sixaxis> !dvdrip
[07:39] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[07:39] <ArrenLex> sixaxis: I know k3b supports this.
[07:40] <ArrenLex> sixaxis: uh... know -> relatively sure
[07:40] <lostsync> ArrenLex, is there some package i could dpkg-reconfigure to try redetecting my cards?
[07:40] <bobbie__4> I'm leaving and you're not talking me out of this
[07:40] <bobbie__4> Good bye cruel world!!!
[07:40] <lostsync> pls stay
[07:40] <lostsync> oh well
[07:40] <ArrenLex> lostsync: Uh... I assume there must be, but personally I just use the alsaconf script from the debian packages. I have it mirrored: http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf
[07:41] <sixaxis> ArrenLex: isn't there a GNOME program?
[07:41] <startswithz> hello all I have a weird problem with Beryl. Whenever I load it the windows flicker
[07:41] <ArrenLex> sixaxis: You could try gnomebaker, but I have no idea what it does or doesn't support.
[07:41] <startswithz> has anyone experienced this?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> !cd
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <ArrenLex> !k3b
[07:41] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:41] <ArrenLex> !gnomebaker
[07:41] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[07:41] <ArrenLex> !burn
[07:42] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:42] <MrKeuner> hi, is it safe to remove auto removable packages in synaptic?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's what I was looking for.
[07:42] <lostsync> hmm
[07:42] <ArrenLex> MrKeuner: if your question is "is it safe to remove autoremoveable packages", yes. If your question is "is it safe to trust synaptic to do this", I would guess yes but have no first-hand experience to back that up.
[07:43] <therealyertman> I just added a new hard disk to my text only ubuntu server. Went to fdisk it and I find there is no /dev/hdb
[07:43] <dabaR> what is an autoremovable package?
[07:43] <MrKeuner> ArrenLex: first one
[07:43] <dabaR> therealyertman: sudo fdisk -l
[07:43] <MrKeuner> ArrenLex: thanks
[07:43] <sixaxis> hey NoScript should I donwload it from Ubuntu or from FIrefox site?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> dabaR: a package that was installed as a dependency for another package, and the original package has now been removed.
[07:43] <kenThomson> Can someone give me a link on the web where i can find a very extensive yet noob friendly Linux tutorial?
[07:43] <therealyertman> Should the device file be created automatically if the disk is working.
[07:44] <dabaR> therealyertman: ya
[07:44] <lostsync> ok alsaconf tells me it can't find all these modules snd-ess18xx being the exact one i need
[07:44] <ArrenLex> dabaR: Like, if you install the package "relativity" and as a dependency it also installs "libe=mc2", when you remove "relativity", your "libe=mc2" package because autoremovable.
[07:44] <lostsync> how do i get these modules?
[07:44] <dabaR> kenThomson: on what part of Linux?
[07:44] <dabaR> kenThomson: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <sixaxis> firefox adons should be dl from ubuntu or from firefoxI guess nobody knows
[07:45] <ArrenLex> lostsync: you should already have them, if you're running a recent kernel, I think...
[07:45] <ArrenLex> lostsync: apt-cache search alsa modules only lists 2.4 kernel modules
[07:45] <lostsync> one would think
[07:45] <kenThomson> dabaR: I am pretty new to Linux and want to learn Bash, but i get perturbed by those text-obly hopelessly boring usual tutorials.
[07:45] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: using bash as a shell, or bash scripting?
[07:45] <sixaxis> how may I find out command line for a package?
[07:45] <lostsync> im on edgy...but it's also saying snd-sb16 is missing and i think that's really really weird
[07:45] <ArrenLex> sixaxis: come again?
[07:46] <sixaxis> apt-get find  food?
[07:46] <CharonX> Is there a way to lock down a box so that nobody can log into it for specified periods of time ?
[07:46] <dabaR> kenThomson: hehe, don't say boring text-only and want to learn bash in the same sentence...
[07:46] <dabaR> !cli > kenThomson
[07:46] <kenThomson> dabaR: I am looking for something that would familiarise me with some pretty advanced working of Linux (starting from simple parts that is)
[07:46] <kenThomson> dabaR: :)
[07:46] <ArrenLex> sixaxis: apt-cache search foobar.
[07:46] <sixaxis> thanks
[07:46] <dabaR> kenThomson: start with wikipedia, I think.
[07:46] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: presently both those things mean the same to me (or more properly mean nothing to me) :)
[07:47] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: okay; do you know any programming languages?
[07:47] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: Java
[07:47] <peanutb> how do i start a new session?
[07:47] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: And HTML if you can call it a prog. Language
[07:47] <therealyertman> dabaR Okay it's there I just forgot how Linux specifies disks. I was expecting the master on the second bus to be hdb when of course it's really hdc. Thanks
[07:47] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: also, have you ever seen\used the command line in Windows (assuming you hail from Windows)?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: I don't, and it isn't.
[07:47] <dabaR> therealyertman: I knew that was the issue,.
[07:47] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: Actionscript too! Yes i have used it pretty extensively (in Win)
[07:48] <abes> crimsun: hey... we were talking earlier about that not working flash plugin.... in firefox 2.0 - any ideas?
[07:48] <dabaR> kenThomson: read wikipedia on linux, gnu, fsf, ubuntu, debian, gnome, kde, and click on any link that is given there. You have to get some breadth first, then you can think of depth.
[07:48] <therealyertman> :)
[07:48] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: bash is like the windows command prompt, only it's actually useful.
[07:48] <kenThomson> dabaR: A philosopher on IRC?!!
[07:48] <Parisi_> Until windows power shell is out anyways :)
[07:48] <Naik0> !icons
[07:48] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[07:48] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: Good!
[07:49] <Parisi_> I hear alot of great things about the new shell, so watch out.
[07:49] <andy__> exit
[07:49] <dabaR> hehe
[07:49] <vinia> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:49] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: cd <dir> to move through directories, "ls" to list files in a directory, "mv afile somewhere" to move (if somewhere is a dir) or rename (if somewhere does not exist) files. "cp afile afile2" to copy files. "rm file" to remove files. "rm -r directory" to remove directories. That's a simple primer so you can move around :)
[07:49] <godless> Parisi_:  Does microsoft pay you for this publicity?
[07:50] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: a shell script is essentially putting bash commands into a file, one per line, and then telling bash to execute them all from top to bottom.
[07:50] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: Thanks for the effort!
[07:50] <Parisi_> godless Does the devil pay you to call yourself a godless?
[07:50] <Parisi_> What does that have do to with anything, you see what mean?
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Parisi_: Do we really need to have this argument?
[07:50] <Rob-West> can i install Kubuntu packages in Ubuntu
[07:50] <Rob-West> or do i need KDE
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Rob-West: of course you can.
[07:51] <godless> Rob-West:  You can. You might need to install some of the kde libraries
[07:51] <Rob-West> well i cant find Amarok for Ubuntu but i can find it for Kubuntu
[07:51] <godless> but synaptic is really good at telling you what you need for a given package
[07:51] <vinia> hallo
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Rob-West: "kubuntu" is only ubuntu with different packages installed by default. There is really no distinction between the two systems.
[07:51] <dabaR> haha @ god and microsoft henchemen
[07:52] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:52] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:52] <Rob-West> ok
[07:52] <godless> I am listening to Amarok in Xubuntu (xfce) atm
[07:52] <ArrenLex> And I'm enjoying Gaim on KDE.
[07:52] <kenThomson> On a side note: My VDU can support 800x600 (@85Hz, it's written in the manual + it works that way in Windows). But on Ubuntu i cant get a frequency above 60Hz at any resolutions? I installed Nvidia's proprietery drivers but that didn't help (and i dont want to use them). What should i do? My Monitor flickers like HELL at 60HZ.
[07:52] <ArrenLex> And wishing kopete had a usable spellcheck. :(
[07:52] <godless> What a wild and wonderful world it is. :)
[07:53] <Rob-West> Synaptic doesnt show Amarok
[07:54] <kenThomson> Can someone help me with the resolution/frequency thing?
[07:54] <godless> Rob-West:  Eh? Mine does... Did you use the search function?
[07:55] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: are you running gnome? I believe gnome has some setting to configure that somewhere in the... settings. I don't use it so I don't know.
[07:55] <dabaR> !info amarok
[07:55] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB
[07:56] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: I am running GNOME. And in the display settings (in the drop-down menu), no frequency above 60HZ is presented as an option for me to select, there is nothing i can do.
[07:56] <Rob-West> im installing Amarok i found a guide
[07:56] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: then you need to adjust your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. I know how to do this with the Debian package because tit offers you the option to do so in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. However, ubuntu has removed this IIRC for some reason. You'd have to google.
[07:57] <ArrenLex> ...tit -> it
[07:57] <dabaR> kenThomson: you need to know the exact make and model of the monitor and then type in "refresh rates <make> <model> into google, then it should get you the horizontal and vertical refresh rates.
[07:57] <dabaR> ArrenLex: you can drxx in ubuntu
[07:57] <godless> Rob-West:  'sudo apt-get install amarok' oughta do the deed, but whatever suits you.
[07:57] <ArrenLex> dabaR: Yay drxx? What means this wonderful acronym?
[07:57] <kenThomson> dabaR: I know the exact make/model, and my Monitor's manual says it can support 85HZ at 800x600
[07:58] <dabaR> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:58] <Rob-West> thats what i used
[07:58] <ArrenLex> dabaR: Yes. But IIRC they took the refresh rate option out of that process.
[07:58] <dabaR> kenThomson: so then do what I said with that info.
[07:58] <ArrenLex> dabaR: To avoid newbies making their monitors go kablewie, I presume.
[07:58] <dabaR> ArrenLex: hm
[07:58] <kenThomson> dabaR: in the configuration wizard, i selected the proper frequencies but they still dont take effect. Ubuntu simply reverts to 60HZ
[07:58] <dabaR> kenThomson: tell me the exact make and model
[07:59] <adele> I have a similar problem
[07:59] <ladyinblack> and i have a simple problem
[07:59] <adele> my resolution is fine at 1280x1024 but the refresh rate is low
[07:59] <kenThomson> dabaR: Compaq mv520:
[07:59] <ArrenLex> dabaR: yes. They took it out.
[07:59] <rageagainstthis> i was wondering if you are able to create share in samba that is composed of different files located on different harddrives and folders
[08:00] <ArrenLex> rageagainstthis: Yes, by using symlinks.
[08:00] <adele> is there a way to change my refresh rate
[08:00] <kenThomson> dabaR: 50-99 x 31-54 (vertical x horizonatal, refresh rates, in Hz)
[08:00] <rageagainstthis> great i will do a search on it
[08:00] <dabaR> kenThomson: pastebin the xorg.conf file, please
[08:01] <ladyinblack> people i need help and i am lame!
[08:01] <EpP> Hey, i want to get a wireless card that can inject packets? Are there any brand new cards that are based on prism 2. It seems all the lists of cards on the net are old and the cards are now v2 or3 and have a different chipset. Where is a place i can get v1 of these cards?
[08:01] <dr-nix> adele: tried the preferences menu (or is it admin?)
[08:01] <Rob-West> Amarok is done
[08:01] <adele> dr-nix yes
[08:01] <Rob-West> and i did it myself
[08:01] <ArrenLex> !symlink | rageagainstthis
[08:01] <ubotu> rageagainstthis: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:01] <adele> I have the vesa driver though
[08:01] <dr-nix> oh
[08:01] <dr-nix> what gfx do you have ?
[08:02] <kenThomson> dabaR: now that is a difficult question, as i am running from Knoppix Live CD, i crashed GRUB, and get Error21, everytime i select ubuntu at boottime (becuase i moved the HDDs after installation)
[08:02] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: that's an easy one. You just have to re-install grub.
[08:02] <adele> dr-nix: radeonx1800
[08:02] <dabaR> kenThomson: how do you intend to fix it then? are you fixing the knoppix or ubuntu resolution?
[08:02] <dr-nix> oh, that should be supported by some ati driver no?
[08:02] <godless> ladyinblack:  You will have better luck getting some help if you actually ask a question.
[08:03] <adele> dr-nix: it is but I dont want to install the ATI driver. its a long story
[08:03] <dr-nix> heh'
[08:03] <adele> basically my videocard sounds like boeing 747 if i install ati driver
[08:03] <dr-nix> anyways you should still be able to change your refresh rate..
[08:03] <kenThomson> dabaR: That problem occured in Ubuntu. And i wish to learn a way to solve it, so that when i re-install Ubuntu i can get my resolution/frequency to work correctly
[08:03] <dr-nix> you might have to add a modeline in the xorg.conf though (asuming your talking about X)
[08:03] <ArrenLex> adele: I hear you. If I install fglrx, xvideo freezes my computer.
[08:04] <ladyinblack> i am trying to instal CrossOver Office but i cant make it with the terminal comand..:/
[08:04] <kenThomson> ArrenLex: Talk about Linux being easy!
[08:04] <siXy> adele, the refresh rate is specified in xorg.conf
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Adele: I have long been of the opinion that the ATI Linux development process consists of blindfolding an intern and having him type randomly into notepad, and then shipping it as a Linux driver as it compiles.
[08:04] <adele> i dont think ati drivers are official for linux
[08:04] <ArrenLex> kenThomson: once you and dabaR figure out whatever you're working on right now, let me know and I can tell you how to fix grub :)
[08:05] <dabaR> kenThomson: you need to add two lines to your xorg.conf in the monitor section. first is "HorizSync          50-99", second is "VertRefresh        31-54" or the other way around with the values, but I think that is right.
[08:05] <Rob-West> i need a Perl plugin for Xchat where can i get it
[08:05] <ArrenLex> adele: they sure are. fglrx is.
[08:05] <dr-nix> didn't ATI stop providing drivers around the same time nVidia started to provide drivers for *nix ?!
[08:05] <adele> i think they are just windows drivers re-written for linux or something. at least tahts what i haerd
[08:05] <kenThomson> dabaR: simple copy-paste in gedit will do?
[08:05] <dabaR> adele: same for your refresh rate fix, likely, but find out the exact specs for your monitor.
[08:05] <dabaR> kenThomson: sure.
[08:05] <ladyinblack> :(
[08:06] <kenThomson> dabaR: and where is this .conf file located?
[08:06] <adele> dabar i forgot which folder that file is in.. something etc/X11..?
[08:06] <dabaR> kenThomson: then save, close gedit, and restart X(alt-ctrl-backspace)
[08:06] <dabaR> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:06] <kenThomson> dabaR: great!
[08:06] <dr-nix> dabaR: hm yeah and if that doesn't work you can add a modeline
[08:06] <firebird619> dabaR: I followed the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto except for using 855resolution, and I am still unable to use the native resolution of 1680x1050. Any other suggestions? Would using the 855resolution fix this?
[08:06] <Rob-West> where can i find a PErl Plugin for XChat
[08:06] <kenThomson> dr-nix: whats that?
[08:07] <adele> so where do I add that modline thing
[08:07] <dabaR> firebird619: no idea, you sure you entered the horizontal and vertical rates?
[08:07] <firebird619> dabaR: Yes.
[08:07] <dabaR> firebird619: and restarted X?
[08:07] <firebird619> dabaR: yes
[08:07] <dr-nix> oh i'd better get going ... my lecture starts soon, oh it's just a line you add (in the screen section)
[08:08] <dabaR> It should work.
[08:08] <dr-nix> with information about a resolution (vert and horiz refresh and so on)
[08:08] <dabaR> hehe
[08:08] <dr-nix> there are generators for it
[08:08] <dr-nix> modeline that is
[08:08] <dabaR> anyhow, I am moving tomorrow morning, I am going to sleep. good luck all
[08:08] <anonymouse> greetings ubus
[08:08] <dr-nix> anyways my lecture starts in few minutes so i'd better get going
[08:08] <dr-nix> later
[08:08] <anonymouse> I am stuck between an apt-get and a hard place
[08:08] <kenThomson> Good bye everyone!
[08:09] <anonymouse> Just did an apt-get upgrade, and when it gets to "setting up ppp" it hangs the system
[08:09] <anonymouse> =(
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Byee
[08:09] <adele> anybody knows the link for that modline thing
[08:09] <Naik0> Could not find a working compiler
[08:09] <Naik0> how do i get a working compiler?
[08:10] <Rob-West> can someone help me with a Perl Script
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Naik0: apt-get install build-essential
[08:10] <Naik0> ArrenLex: dont work
[08:10] <firebird619> Can anyone help me? My monitors native resolution is 1680x1050, but the highest resolution System==>Preferences==>Screen Resolution lists is 1280x1024. However, xorg.conf does list 1680x1050. What can I do to fix this?
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Naik0: could you be more specific?
[08:12] <anonymouse> Anyone here know how to troubleshoot a package install that hangs the whole system?
[08:12] <Naik0> ArrenLex: the packages is not healty
[08:12] <Naik0> bad
[08:12] <anonymouse> I *would* just uninstall ppp, but it looks like some important stuff deps on it
[08:12] <tabasko> firebird619, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Naik0: Could you either speak English or paste the exact error, please? I donut understand you.
[08:13] <firebird619> tabasko: I tried that already. no luck
[08:13] <tabasko> hmm
[08:13] <Naik0> i cant translate to english, wait 1 sec
[08:13] <firebird619> I also followed the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, but no luck. Although I did not try the 855resolution thing.
[08:14] <EpP> Hey, i want to get a wireless card that can inject packets? Are there any brand new cards that are based on prism 2. It seems all the lists of cards on the net are old and the cards are now v2 or3 and have a different chipset. Where is a place i can get v1 of these cards?
[08:14] <Rob-West> can someone help me install a Perl Plugin
[08:15] <Naik0> ArrenLex: the package dont work, it says it corrupt
[08:15] <Rob-West> how do i set permissions
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Naik0: please paste the exact error you get.
[08:15] <Naik0> but its on swedish
[08:15] <Stanislav> hey is it possible to make the Ubuntu remote desktop server to auto accept connections? without having to click Allow?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Naik0: uhh... try? Maybe I'll recongnise it from the context.
[08:16] <Naik0> !paste
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <tabasko> firebird619, what you have in SubSection "Display" section on xorg?
[08:16] <Naik0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34919/
[08:17] <TheBlunderbuss> Hi there.  Do I need to write the LiveCD to a CDR or can I write to CDRW?
[08:17] <Naik0> ArrenLex: on line 29 it says couldnt find package gtk
[08:17] <jumble> does anyone here use activeperl with ubuntu?
[08:17] <adele> ok can someobdy please walk me through changing my refresh rate?
[08:18] <Stanislav> Anyone know how to make the ubuntu VNC server auto accept connections?
[08:18] <firebird619> tabasko: There are several Subsection "Display" do you want all of them?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Naik0: what happens if you try "apt-get install g++-4.1"
[08:20] <tabasko> firebird619, no,, but there should be something like:
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Naik0: and that's right, it couldn't find gtk because there is no such package. If you're running gnome, you already have gtk installed anyway.
[08:21] <tabasko> Depth 24
[08:21] <tabasko> Modes "1680x1050"
[08:21] <firebird619> tabasko: yes, there is. It doesn't just list "1680x1050" it lists several other resolutions as well.
[08:22] <ArrenLex> Does anyone wise in the ways of ubotu know how, if the bot has a factoid for a command which is also a package (like g++) to coerce it into spewing the package info rather than the snippet?
[08:22] <luke__> I get this error when installing wpa_supplicant "/home/luke/Desktop/wpa_supplicant-0.4.9/eap.c:908: undefined reference to `scard_set_pin''
[08:22] <luke__> any ideas?
[08:22] <dsdg> halo, is there a way to assign two gateways to an ubuntu lan gateway?
[08:22] <ArrenLex> luke__: Here's an idea for you: apt-get install wpasupplicant
[08:23] <jumble> does anyone have any experience using perl in ubuntu?
[08:24] <firebird619> tabasko: That is all it has under each of the subsection "display"... Depth and then Mode, nothing else.
[08:24] <luke__> ArrenLex, OMFG
[08:24] <luke__> 'ty
[08:24] <ArrenLex> luke__: apt-cache search <terms> is your best friend =P
[08:26] <dsdg> halo, is there a way to assign two gateways to an ubuntu lan gateway?
[08:26] <black_13> what package installs the xorg configurator?
[08:27] <tabasko> firebird619, btw. which graphics card you have and which version of ubuntu, edgy?
[08:27] <luke__> No driver interfaces build into wpa_supplicant
[08:27] <firebird619> tabasko: Edgy and Intel 845GL (i810 driver)
[08:30] <rugbythomas> anyone know how to undo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:30] <abes> hey! this is kind of odd... i removed firefox through synaptic but when i click on the <?> icon (which remained after removal) it still opens firefox - how can i completely get rid of it?
[08:30] <rugbythomas> now none of my games works
[08:30] <black_13_> what package installs the xorg configurator?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> abes: please paste the output of $(which firefox)
[08:30] <ArrenLex> No, wait.
[08:30] <ArrenLex> abes: "echo $(which firefox)"
[08:31] <abes> ArrenLex: /usr/bin/firefox
[08:31] <ArrenLex> abes: and how about "file /usr/bin/firefox"
[08:31] <rugbythomas> i dont know
[08:31] <abes> ArrenLex: /opt/firefox/firefox
[08:31] <ArrenLex> abes: there you go. You installed your own version from mozilla.org.
[08:32] <rugbythomas> i did it based on http://lug.wsu.edu/taxonomy_menu/3/14/90/91
[08:32] <ArrenLex> abes: removing it is easy, just remove the directory: "sudo rm -rf /opt/firefox"
[08:32] <ArrenLex> abes: and then "sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox" to clean up.
[08:33] <abes> ArrenLex: Great! That solves my problem :) Thank you!
[08:33] <ArrenLex> abes: no problem :)
[08:34] <Pie-rate> How do I get DVDs to play on ubuntu? I don't care if its illegal because as far as i'm concerned i purchased my license with the laptop (it came with windows software capable of playing dvds)
[08:34] <ArrenLex> !dvd
[08:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:34] <abes> ArrenLex: now im trying to get it back on but i get:  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0.6.06_i386.deb: unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/libgfxpsshar.so'
[08:34] <abes> ArrenLex: any idea why would that come up?
[08:34] <Zehrila> Hello everyone!
[08:35] <ArrenLex> abes: that is a weird error, but as an aside, are you aware you're installing firefox 1.5?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Rather than 2?
[08:35] <ogamiitto> I have reconfigured my network to have a static ip, everything is fine until I reboot the machine then netwrok-admin does not "remember" the dns servers so I have to re-add them by hand (resync the clock...), any clues?
[08:35] <kossoko> bnbn
[08:36] <Zehrila> I'm having a tough time trying to install Ubuntu and some assistance would certainly come handy.
[08:36] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:36] <Zehrila> I downloaded the ISO (Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10), burnt it to disc, booted from it, checked the disc for errors and all seemed to be well.
[08:36] <kossoko>  I wonder how I can leave hibernation
[08:37] <Zehrila> But when I select the first option while booting i.e. run and install it or something similar...
[08:37] <jerp> ogamiitto, try resetting the router on the next reboot so the whole arrangement syncs
[08:37] <kossoko> I got qd mng
[08:37] <Zehrila> It boots up sort-of-fine but gives an error about themes etc. not working properly while loading the GUI.
[08:37] <kossoko> can smbdy hlp me? please
[08:37] <abes> ArrenLex: Yeah... I know... I need 1.5 first... because I'm testing some stuff :]
[08:37] <ArrenLex> abes: okay, where are you trying to install it from?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Whence didst this package hail?
[08:38] <ogamiitto> jerp: i don't think how can this help me, i think is some ubuntu config issue
[08:38] <Zehrila> BTW it's really slow at booting the OS from the disc and once booted, when I click the install icon on the desktop, I wait till eternity and nothing happens.
[08:38] <abes> ArrenLex: thru synaptic
[08:38] <Endymion> hello
[08:38] <kossoko> hello
[08:38] <ArrenLex> abes: yes, but which repository did the package come from?
[08:38] <black_13_> i have installed xorg (or i think i have) but i cant find xorgcfg or xconfigurator
[08:38] <Zehrila> Is there a way to simply install it from disc without first booting into it, since I think my RAM is being an issue here (256MB, with 32 MB being shared with VGA card)
[08:38] <ArrenLex> abes: and the word is "through", you American.
[08:38] <jerp> ogamiitto, I think it's a three minute pause between having stopped and restarting that notifies the ISP to send an initial 'handshake'
[08:38] <MikeyMike> OMG MY GNOME PANEL IS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY SCREEN! HELP!
[08:39] <steddy> slt a tout
[08:39] <abes> ArrenLex: I am canadian :P And i know the word! Just typing fast... and when it comes to the repository i have to check that... one sec
[08:39] <ArrenLex> abes: I am a Canadian as well! Stop shaming our people.
[08:39] <ogamiitto> jerp: other people here in the office have the same config, and works fine :)
[08:40] <MikeyMike> how do you drag the gnome panel?
[08:40] <MikeyMike> mines in the middle of my screen!
[08:40] <mordof> hey.. was wondering what a good iso burning program would be
[08:40] <ArrenLex> !burn
[08:40] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:40] <mordof> MikeyMike: click and drag
[08:40] <MikeyMike> that doesnt work!
[08:40] <MikeyMike> click and drag WHERE?!
[08:40] <Endymion> what cd image should i download for intel 64? (the amd64?)
[08:40] <mordof> MikeyMike: make sure it's not locked
[08:40] <Zehrila> mordof: For windows, if you need a quality free program, try CD Burner XP Pro.
[08:41] <abes> ArrenLex: Well... i tried insalling THROUGH apt-get now and i got: unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/libgfxpsshar.so': No such file or directory
[08:41] <MikeyMike> for the whole PANEL?!
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Endymion: I advise you to run 32-bit ubuntu unless you're perfectly certain you want 64-bit. It's a huge hastle.
[08:41] <MikeyMike> there is no lock option
[08:41] <abes> ArrenLex: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:41] <ArrenLex> abes: that's all well and good, but what repository did this package come from?
[08:41] <Zehrila> Well, anyone with a solution to my problem?
[08:41] <abes> ArrenLex: I dont know...
[08:42] <ArrenLex> abes: okay, let's start like this: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list minus the comments (cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v "#")
[08:42] <mordof> Zehrila: not sure why i would be asking how to burning iso's while in windows in this channel...
[08:42] <Zehrila> Is there a way to simply install Ubuntu from disc without first booting into it, since I think my RAM is being an issue here; the system gets to lag throughout booting and when I click the desktop icon for installation, it hangs. (RAM is 256MB, with 32 MB being shared with VGA card)
[08:42] <InvisiblePinkUni> !lisp
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lisp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <mordof> Zehrila: alternate cd
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Zehrila: to your latest question, you will have to download the alternate CD instead.
[08:43] <jerp> mikey, right button click on it and open the properties, then theres a tab on that first page that lets you position it
[08:43] <Zehrila> mordof: Well, there could be a reason for asking about burning ISOs in windows here, if you're wanting to burn the Ubuntu ISO. =]
[08:43] <abes> ArrenLex: well... i need a browser for that... one sec... ill upload it to my ftp
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Zehrila: as to your theme error, the theme is cosmetic and doesn't indicate a serious problem with your system. As for what's causing it, I don't run gnome so I don't know; sorry you're having a hard time getting started :(
[08:43] <Zehrila> Otherwise I know, my answer sounded stupid, heh.
[08:43] <mordof> Zehrila: ah, yeah probably
[08:43] <mordof> Zehrila: however i had nero 7 in windows :P
[08:43] <jerp> "Orientation"
[08:43] <Zehrila> Ah alright.
[08:43] <Pie-rate> my laptop dvd drive vibrates a lot when it spins up to full speed
[08:43] <ArrenLex> abes: Oh, right... well, at need, you always have w3c
[08:44] <MikeyMike> I'LL BERB!!!!!!!!!!
[08:44] <abes> ArrenLex: hmmm.... i dont have Add/Remove on the bottom of my Aplications drop-down...?
[08:44] <Zehrila> And thanks ArrenLex.
[08:44] <Zehrila> Guess I'll have to download the alternate CD.
[08:44] <Zehrila> Which brings up another question..
[08:44] <Zehrila> Will the alternative CD have everything this main disc has?
[08:44] <malt> can anybody see www.m4lt.com/phpmyadmin/ ?
[08:45] <ArrenLex> abes: Don't run gnome, can't help you there... the best I can suggest is a pagan ritual with virgin sacrifice.
[08:45] <abes> ArrenLex: works too ;]
[08:45] <ArrenLex> abes: do you mean, you can't find w3c in your menus? Because that makes sense; it's a console app.
[08:45] <Zehrila> If only I had 1 GB of RAM...=[
[08:46] <roland> malt: yes
[08:46] <Zehrila> Can I borrow it for installation?
[08:46] <malt> nice :D
[08:46] <Zehrila> Heh.
[08:46] <roland> malt: I'm in, now c hanging the password :)
[08:46] <Zehrila> So does the alternative CD have everything the main disc has?
[08:46] <malt> roland lol lies, really?
[08:46] <roland> don't worry
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Zehrila: my old computer had 256mb and ubuntu ran great, even with KDE and all the frills :)
[08:47] <roland> i'll change it back, ok :)
[08:47] <roland> just kidding malt
[08:47] <roland> but I could not resist trying of course
[08:47] <malt> oh :/ scared me
[08:47] <Zehrila> ArrenLex: That's great! I wonder what's the issue my end...
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Zehrila: No. The alternate CD, if I recall correctly, sets you up with a basic, text-mode system. In order to get to what the normal cd offers you, you have to run the command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[08:47] <malt> I was like wtf i though i changed all default stuff
[08:47] <abes> !ftp
[08:47] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[08:47] <Pie-rate> hmm, still cant get DVDs playing
[08:47] <malt> thought*
[08:47] <roland> malt: you did well
[08:47] <ArrenLex> abes: if it's such a problem you could just paste the lines.
[08:47] <Zehrila> I even checked the CD for errors and it didn't have any.
[08:47] <godless> alternate cd will do a regular installation
[08:48] <Zehrila> Thanks again ArrenLex.
[08:48] <corevette> where are logs for GAIM saved on linux?
[08:48] <godless> it just does a text-mode install
[08:48] <godless> instead of live-booting first
[08:48] <ArrenLex> ~/.gaim/logs, corvette
[08:48] <Zehrila> I better set myself to downloading on dialup again.
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <roland> ok does anybody know what the preferred location is to put jdbc drivers on ubuntu?
[08:48] <ailean> is the DVD iso better than the CD one? i.e. does it have more software on it?
[08:48] <godless> (you can also do a text-only system install from the alternate but it is not the only option)
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Zehrila: No need for that... as long as your installation had no errors, the theme error is not related to the CD.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> ailean: Well, yes. But isn't it better to install a basic system and download what you need, instead of downloading everything in existence?
[08:49] <Zehrila> ArrenLex: I see. Well, that's the issue, the installation doesn't start when it boots into the GUI and I double-click on the 'install Ubuntu' desktop icon, heh.
[08:49] <enderak5454> Trk olan varm arkadalar
[08:49] <Zehrila> It simply gets stuck there doing nothing, for which I can't seem to think up a reason.
[08:49] <DARKGuy> Hey :), anybody here uses irssi and knows how to set it up for autoidenting me? it's kind of annoying to write /msg nickserv password at each login :/
[08:50] <Pie-rate> Installed libdvdread3, ran install-css.sh, installed gxine. gxine locks up and has to force quit when i try to use it to play a dvd
[08:50] <Zehrila> Lemme give it one more shot. Wish me luck, folks!
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Pie-rate: how about ogle? Mplayer?
[08:50] <ailean> ArrenLex, depends what you're installing it on. If it's a computer with dial-up internet access, then the DVD is better
[08:50] <CoRnJuLiOx> hey, how do i change/add screensavers from xfce?
[08:51] <rebuilt> i hate broadcom
[08:51] <ailean> Pie-rate, have you tried more than one DVD?
[08:51] <Pie-rate> installing "ogle" now
[08:51] <Pie-rate> no, i haven't
[08:51] <mnepton> DARKGuy: /NETWORK ADD -autosendcmd "/^msg nickserv ident $YOURPASSWORD;wait 2000" Freenode
[08:51] <Pie-rate> i know this one works though
[08:51] <ailean> Pie-rate, I find that Kaffiene is the easiest media player to use for DVDs
[08:51] <DARKGuy> mnepton: Thanks lots! :D
[08:52] <ArrenLex> ailean: kaffiene owns all, but is for KDE.
[08:52] <ailean> Pie-rate, and it's the only one that I can get to work
[08:52] <Pie-rate> ogle works
[08:52] <ailean> ArrenLex, Kaffiene runs on Gnome if you install the KDE libs
[08:52] <ailean> ArrenLex, I'm running Gnome with many KDE apps on it
[08:53] <ArrenLex> ailean: yes, of course, but some people don't want to clutter up their system.
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Pie-rate: glad to hear it.
[08:53] <godless> Hm. conversation just inspired me to read through my .irssi/config... I'm ignoring all sorts of folks I didn't know I was ignoring... :)
[08:54] <ArrenLex> ailean: I personally have kept my system delightfully gnome-free and aspire to keep it thusly.
[08:54] <Pie-rate> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:54] <Pie-rate> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[08:54] <Pie-rate> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[08:54] <Pie-rate> how do i get mplayer?
[08:54] <ailean> ArrenLex, fine, that's your choice. Pie-rate just wants to get a DVD working.
[08:54] <ArrenLex> godless: Tell me about it. I've ignored everyone who says they're a smoker on here and then I keep wondering who everyone is talking to. It's so freaky.
[08:54] <ailean> why do you do that ArrenLex? :)
[08:54] <ArrenLex> ailean: Yes; I suggested gnome DVD players which might allow him to do that, to avoid KDE dependencies.
[08:55] <ailean> fair enough
[08:55] <Pie-rate> how do i get mplayer?
[08:55] <ailean> through synaptic
[08:55] <ArrenLex> Pie-rate: the same way you get everything! It's a package :)
[08:55] <Pie-rate> aren't apt-get and synaptic the same damn things?
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Pie-rate: synaptic is a GUI for apt-get.
[08:56] <rugbythomas> system working fine before apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx how do I undo it
[08:56] <Pie-rate> apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:57] <Alzi2> Hey. pseudo-transparency doesn't work in ANY app. Nor Konsole, Nor Crystal (kwin theme) wants to display pseudo-transparency. If I try to enable it and I click OK, when I check back, transparency is still not on... it's annoying. I want proper pseudo-transparency. Anyone?
[08:58] <itstaff> hi all do you know how to disable a script from starting at boot time
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Alzi2: a) proper pseudo-transparency, eh? b) How are you trying to enable it?
[08:58] <CoRnJuLiOx> hey, how do i change/add screensavers in xfce i cant find the menu thats usually in gnome?
[08:58] <rugbythomas> Pie-rate thank you, I knew it had to be something easy
[08:59] <GreySim> Anyone know the easiest way to reinstall Grub after installing Windows on a machine that already has Ubuntu?
[08:59] <Pie-rate> So what's a good movie player for gnome?
[08:59] <tabasko> vlc
[08:59] <DARKGuy> mnepton: Eh, it didn't work actually :(
[09:00] <rebuilt> vlc
[09:00] <ArrenLex> !grub | GreySim
[09:00] <ubotu> GreySim: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:00] <GreySim> Thanks.
[09:00] <Alzi2> ArrenLex: I mean, working transparency which displays the wallpaper you set, b) By checking 'transparent' in Crystal and selecting the 'Konsole transparent' profile in Konsole, then check the box of transparency in the settings, after which the box is STILL not checked.
[09:01] <jumble> question: how do i add a directory to the path?
[09:02] <tommy> How can I mount a usb hard drive?
[09:02] <tommy> From the cli.
[09:03] <Rob-West> wanna see what i installed guys
[09:03] <Alzi2> tommy: mkdir /mnt/usbdrive; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive; cd /mnt/usbdrive
[09:03] <tommy> i did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[09:03] <Alzi2> as root
[09:03] <NuKe_MaNia> how  can install my sound card
[09:03] <tommy> i did
[09:03] <tommy> it says specify the filesystem
[09:03] <tommy> which i have no idea how or what it is
[09:03] <Alzi2> tommy: Then the disk is empty, and with empty, i mean no structure of the harddrive.. (no partitions and stuff)
[09:03] <black_13_> where the hell is xorgconfig?
[09:03] <abes> ArrenLex: http://www.intechent.ca/sources.txt -> sorry for the delay... ;)
[09:04] <tommy> Alzi2, it's not empty, i know this for a fact
[09:04] <ArrenLex> Whoa, abes, I forgot all about you! Hiya.
[09:04] <Pie-rate> alzi2: not necessarily
[09:04] <ArrenLex> Server not found
[09:04] <ArrenLex> Firefox can't find the server at www.intechent.ca.
[09:04] <ArrenLex> Nice.
[09:04] <rebuilt> its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:05] <tommy> Is there a way to determine the fs type?
[09:05] <ArrenLex> abes: tell you what. Rather than doing that, just try the command "aptitude -t dapper install firefox"
[09:05] <rebuilt> cat /etc/fstab
[09:05] <Rob-West> Uncle Rodney Says: We're Young And Beautiful by Carrie Underwood on Some Hearts [Year: 2005]  [Track: 10]  [Length: 3:53]  [Bitrate: 230]  [Size: 6.39 MB]
[09:05] <Rob-West> sorry
[09:06] <chester> hi dean
[09:06] <tommy> i don't see it
[09:06] <NuKe_MaNia> how  can install my sound card
[09:06] <ArrenLex> abes: yo?
[09:07] <chester> wazzup??
[09:07] <tommy> well
[09:07] <tommy> it's not ext3
[09:08] <abes> ArrenLex: Sorry mate... im running two PCs in the same time... ok... ill try the aptitude
[09:08] <crys> tommy: have you tried -tvfat
[09:08] <abes> ArrenLex: do u still need the sources file or can I knock it out of my FTP?
[09:08] <rebuilt> tommy: put a space between -t and vfat
[09:08] <tommy> Okay....wow
[09:08] <tommy> I tried it at usbfs
[09:08] <chester> wanna chat w?me??
[09:09] <tommy> for some reason, and that is totally wrong
[09:09] <ArrenLex> abes: considering the link you gave me doesn't even work, I think I can safely say it's not very useful to me :)
[09:09] <abes> ArrenLex: how come the link doesnt work!?!?!
[09:09] <ArrenLex> abes: hell if I know.
[09:09] <ArrenLex> (01:05:13 AM) ArrenLex: Server not found
[09:09] <ArrenLex> (01:05:13 AM) ArrenLex: Firefox can't find the server at www.intechent.ca.
[09:09] <ArrenLex> (01:05:14 AM) ArrenLex: Nice.
[09:09] <tommy> That was wrong too.
[09:09] <abes> ArrenLex: http://intechnet.ca/sources.txt -> lol... my bad
[09:10] <ArrenLex> abes: You do know edgy's out now, right? =P
[09:10] <Pie-rate> is there any way to fix the ugly deinterlacing from libdvdread?
[09:10] <NuKe_MaNia> nobody help me HOW I CAN CONFIGURE MY SOUND CARD ( NO SOUND )
[09:11] <Flannel> !sound | NuKe_MaNia
[09:11] <ubotu> NuKe_MaNia: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:11] <Alzi2> NuKe_MaNia: What you just said, was 'Please, nobody help me configuring my sound card"
[09:11] <tommy> I am an idiot.
[09:11] <abes> ArrenLex: I know.... just no time to upgrade... :p
[09:11] <ArrenLex> abes: but sufficient time to fool around with old versions of FF? xD
[09:11] <tommy> See, I don't have a GUi.
[09:11] <Alzi2> tommy: We know :D
[09:11] <tommy> On my desktop, so I can't mount it.
[09:11] <abes> ArrenLex: Ill do it later... need to get the browser running (BTW -> unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/libgfxpsshar.so': No such file or directory)
[09:11] <tommy> But I have a laptop right here...
[09:11] <tommy> And...
[09:12] <tommy> I never even thought about mounting it on this.
[09:12] <tommy> :)
[09:12] <abes> ArrenLex: actually... can i get FF2.0 thru any repository
[09:12] <abes> ArrenLex: ?
[09:12] <ArrenLex> abes: The problem is that little dot at the beginning.
[09:12] <Flannel> abes: Not in dapper, no.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> abes: yes you can. Edgy.
[09:12] <Alzi2> tommy: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.php
[09:12] <chester> hi arrenlex
[09:12] <ArrenLex> abes: if you want ff1.5, I suggest downloading it from the mozilla people, because the ubuntu package appears to be botched.
[09:13] <abes> ArrenLex: ok... so how do i upgrade to edgy?
[09:13] <ArrenLex> chester: hi chester. o_o
[09:13] <chester> asl pls?
[09:13] <ArrenLex> abes: Well, that's a difficult question to answer. It depends on how comfortable you are with fixing a broken system.
[09:13] <black_13_> rebuilt it isnt
[09:13] <ArrenLex> chester: Uh... the AOL preteen date chatroom is three doors over.
[09:13] <mordof> alright, so i'm trying to wine install photoshop cs2.. i've heard about people getting photoshop to work.. i get through the entire installation, however when i click install.. it fails and says nothing changed, then finished.. anyone experienced this? possibly have a solution?
[09:13] <tommy> Alzi2, I'm proud.
[09:14] <tommy> Now how do I find out what filesystem this is?
[09:14] <chester> cnxa sa ds2rbo ha?? bz??
[09:14] <tommy> Having it mounted automatically now by the wm.
[09:14] <ArrenLex> mordof: the wine appdb seems to indicate Photoshop CS will not work.
[09:14] <CoRnJuLiOx> i've got epiphany, and whenever i try to play a video it opens up xfmedia. how do i get it to open up something else, like mplayer? xfmedia doesn't work right
[09:15] <mordof> ArrenLex: Franks wine app thing has it running :S odd
[09:15] <abes> ArrenLex: hmmm... I am veeery new to Ubuntu... so I think I am not too comfortable with fixing a "broken system"... but on the other hand... I am willing to experiment :P
[09:15] <Flannel> mordof: you might try #winehq
[09:15] <Rob-West> can someone help me change Xchat colors
[09:15] <mordof> chester: unknown, always, i'm in your base eating all your food.
[09:15] <Rob-West> so like all the text is white and the background is black
[09:15] <chester> mordof??
[09:15] <mordof> lol
[09:16] <mordof> you asked asl - that's my response
[09:16] <ArrenLex> mordof: ah, so it does. Hell if I know.
[09:16] <ArrenLex> mordof: ah, actually, look at the wine version they're running. 0.9.8.
[09:16] <black_13_> rebuilt so you dont have anything useful to offer?
[09:16] <mordof> ArrenLex: hmm.. that's old?
[09:16] <ArrenLex> mordof: it's a well-known fact that nothing ever works in Wine for more than three versions at a time.
[09:16] <ArrenLex> mordof: yes it is. But you should try it.
[09:17] <chester> arrenlex from wer u from
[09:17] <jimmy20013> I upgraded from breezy to edgy using the distro-upgrade option in apt-get and now the Xserver is broken. It doesn't give me any error message, just Xserver failed to start. How do I reconfigure Xserver?
[09:17] <mordof> ArrenLex: repos have 0.9.9... i'm no good at compiling wine to work, lol
[09:17] <ArrenLex> !offtopic | chester
[09:17] <ubotu> chester: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:17] <ArrenLex> mordof: try 0.9.9, then, I guess.
[09:17] <XiXaQ> Can I use a webpage as a desktop background in ubuntu?
[09:17] <ArrenLex> mordof: although compiling wine is super easy.
[09:18] <mordof> jimmy20013: that's a huge jump.. gtk gets entirely updated, i wouldn't be suprised if you had to do a fresh install
[09:18] <co_cool> allow
[09:18] <caspar> hello
[09:18] <Flannel> jimmy20013: that's probably because you upgraded from breezy.  Do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:18] <caspar> can someone help me with a firefox probelm?
[09:18] <tommy> Anyone? Filesystem detection?
[09:18] <co_cool> pa kabar
[09:18] <Flannel> jimmy20013: upgrades are only supported one at a time (breezy to dapper to edgy)
[09:18] <ArrenLex> !anyone | caspar
[09:18] <ubotu> caspar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:18] <tommy> i am totally cli on the desktop
[09:18] <jimmy20013> Flannel:Yeah
[09:18] <tommy> and i have files i need on this usb drive
[09:18] <Flannel> jimmy20013: but, you might be able to salvage this one.
[09:18] <chester> arrenlex cnxa
[09:18] <caspar> my firefox keeps on crashing
[09:19] <mm2000> what can i do if i have make sudo not working? I accidently removed a very important line in /etc/hosts
[09:19] <caspar> and i don't know where on
[09:19] <jimmy20013> Flannel: How can I salvage it?
[09:19] <mordof> ArrenLex: if i need to compile it to try would you be able to help me out if i run into any problems?
[09:19] <Flannel> mm2000: reboot, select "recovery console" in grub menu
[09:19] <ArrenLex> mordof: I could certainly try.
[09:19] <mm2000> Flannel: ok, thanks
[09:19] <chester> ubuntu rule
[09:19] <Flannel> jimmy20013: well, your first question, reconfiguring.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:19] <ArrenLex> mordof: Actually, no, because I kind of have to slep.
[09:19] <chester> cge pls try
[09:19] <ArrenLex> ep.
[09:20] <caspar> where can i see where firefox is crashing on?
[09:20] <jimmy20013> Flannel: Already tried it and it says xserver-xorg is broken or not installed
[09:21] <caspar> i think it has something to do with flash
[09:21] <Flannel> jimmy20013: well, that would be a good reason as to why it's not working then.  Try... reinstalling it.  You might want to use aptitude, the GUIs a lot nicer to those who aren't entirely sure what theyre doing via apt-get
[09:21] <jimmy20013> I am going to remove the old xserver and try reinstalling it
[09:21] <tommy> Ok, apparently my laptop mounted it as vfat.
[09:21] <Flannel> jimmy20013: remember to purge it
[09:22] <jimmy20013> Flannel: Check
[09:22] <tommy> But my desktop says it cannot mount it with that filesystem type,
[09:25] <pradeepvglughyd> how to enable xgl/compiz in xfce
[09:25] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone....
[09:25] <DARKGuy> Good morning Spee_Der
[09:25] <abes> ArrenLex: so... how can I get it to work?
[09:25] <crys> tommy: does the following show anything remotely close to drive capacity?   dmesg | grep sd.*sec
[09:25] <abes> ArrenLex: I mean upgrade to Edgy
[09:25] <CoRnJuLiOx> how do i get epiphany to open up something other than xfmedia when clicking on a video link (to an mpg or something)?
[09:25] <caspar> ok, if i open www.ctrlaltdel-online.com my firefox crashed and keeps on crashing
[09:26] <caspar> how should i solve that?
[09:26] <tommy> crys, 80026MB
[09:26] <ArrenLex> !edgy
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:26] <Rob-West> mine doesnt
[09:26] <pradeepvglughyd> how to enable xgl/compiz in xfce it runs fine in ubuntu
[09:26] <thelsdj> so like i lost the hard drive that has my /boot how can i reinstall all packages that had files installed in /boot so that i can get my system back up? (i can boot from livecd and chroot to my / etc...)
[09:26] <ArrenLex> !edgy > abes
[09:26] <Pie-rate> OMFG YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. THIS FUCKING BAG OF FROSTED MINI-WHEATS I'VE BEEN EATINGFOR THE LAST 10 MINUTES HAS WORMS IN IT.
[09:26] <Pie-rate> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
[09:26] <ArrenLex> !language
[09:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:26] <DARKGuy> Er
[09:26] <DARKGuy> wtf
[09:27] <tommy> What?
[09:27] <tommy> lol
[09:27] <abes> ArrenLex: Heh... so i need to come back to the browser install :P
[09:27] <Pie-rate> sorry, just had to vent that in the closest public channel
[09:27] <crys> apt-get vomit
[09:27] <thelsdj> so thoughts on how to restore a trashed /boot?
[09:27] <Rob-West> good night
[09:27] <coz_> caspar, ijust tried that link and it seems to work for me.. whoch of course unfortunately it is firefox.....do you have flash installed?
[09:27] <tommy> pradeepvglughyd, put Section Extenions Option "Composite" "Enable" Endsection in xorg.conf
[09:27] <caspar> yes
[09:27] <mordof> wow.. ubuntu repos for wine are huuuuge outdated
[09:27] <tommy> And then hit up the xfce config thingy menu.
[09:27] <ArrenLex> abes: hold on, I'll help you out...
[09:27] <mordof> wine is 0.9.26, repos are 0.9.9
[09:28] <pradeepvglughyd> tammy,thanks
[09:28] <tommy> Anyone?
[09:28] <pradeepvglughyd> tommy , thanks
[09:28] <coz_> caspar, ok, and i assume java as well... have looked in settings to see if it is blocking or allwoing something in.... I am just guessing here to narrow down the problem
[09:28] <tommy> I can't mount this sunovabitch
[09:28] <tommy> np
[09:28] <DARKGuy> mordof: mine are 0.9.26, and i Just got 'em by apt-get update (of course, in Edgy)
[09:28] <ArrenLex> abes: language preference? American or british?
[09:28] <caspar> coz_: i have it installed with the package from synaptic (flashplugin-nonfree)
[09:29] <coz_> caspar, yeah that's ok... check in Edit/preferences and see if something is on or off that may make the difference... again just guessing to narrow problem down
[09:29] <pradeepvglughyd> tommy , is it Extensions or Extenions
[09:29] <abes> ArrenLex: American
[09:29] <tommy> Extensions
[09:29] <pradeepvglughyd> tommy ,ok
[09:29] <abes> ArrenLex: I mean the "centre" and "honour" one :P
[09:29] <abes> ArrenLex: ... "center" not "centre"
[09:29] <ArrenLex> abes: ...so, briti... o_O
[09:30] <abes> ArrenLex: yeah... make sure "neighbour" won't get underlined ;)
[09:30] <ArrenLex> abes: YOUR CHOICES ARE: "centre, honour, colour, disc" or "center, honor, color, disk".
[09:30] <ArrenLex> Pick.
[09:30] <abes> ArrenLex: "ill go with option #1"
[09:30] <tommy> Edgy, burnt....
[09:30] <caspar> coz_: i don't know, but this just happend today, and i didn't change annything today
[09:30] <ArrenLex> British.
[09:30] <tommy> Now I need to mount this damned disc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:30] <caspar> coz_: it also happens on www.misfile.com
[09:31] <ArrenLex> abes: grab this with the "wget" command: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-GB
[09:31] <caspar> coz_: i also reinstalled firefox befor i got here
[09:31] <mordof> DARKGuy: yeah, i'm in dapper.. i just installed the wine repo and am getting the updated one from there
[09:31] <poningru> whats wrong?
[09:31] <Inez> what is hi
[09:31] <Inez> what is the tool to enable and disabled services (from init.d) on ubuntu
[09:31] <tommy> I need helps.
[09:31] <coz_> caspar, oepn up a terminal and open firefox there, then go to the page that made it crash and see if any errors have been written
[09:31] <DARKGuy> mordof: Ah, you're right - my repos come from the winehq xD;
[09:31] <Inez> and how can I allow some user to start and stop tomcat?
[09:32] <Pie-rate> they're probably crawling into my brain and breeding there
[09:32] <poningru> Inez: add them as an alias to sudo and then add that command as another alias
[09:32] <Pie-rate> at least they'll probably install linux...
[09:32] <poningru> and then enable that alias
[09:32] <abes> ArrenLex: it's an .exe though....
[09:32] <tommy> Oh screw it.
[09:32] <tommy> I've got a better idea.
[09:32] <poningru> Inez: just search for sudo
[09:32] <ArrenLex> abes: I don't see how it could be o_O os=linux is right there in the URL.
[09:32] <Spee_Der> !wacom
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <poningru> tommy: whats wrong?
[09:32] <tommy> LiveCD into Edgy, mount the damned usb disk, mount the damned hard drive.
[09:32] <ArrenLex> Hold up..
[09:33] <tommy> And transfer the data from that.
[09:33] <tommy> :)
[09:33] <DARKGuy> Hm, I have two X servers (kinda, it's just a dual monitor setup without xinerama) so I *think* they should be :0.0 and :0.1, or something like that. What would I need to do for taking a screenshot of both monitors? (like, a widescreen screenshot?)
[09:33] <vaporglow> Does anybody have any advice for a complete 'nix newbie?
[09:33] <Inez> poningru I know what is sudo, but wehat if I want to start and stop tomcat from eclipse?
[09:33] <caspar> coz_: serial 118 error_code 8 Request_code 143 minor_code 3
[09:33] <Inez> poningru and what about remove tomcat from auto startup?
[09:33] <ArrenLex> abes: oh, you forgot quotes. Just grab this: http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/linux-i686/en-GB/firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[09:33] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: read, inform yourself as much as you can, learn a lot, experiment, and ask when you don't know ;)
[09:33] <tommy> poningru, I cannot mount a usb hard drive from the command line.
[09:33] <abes> ArrenLex: yeah... seemed weird.... dont they have ftp mirror?
[09:33] <tommy> I screwed up my install badly.
[09:33] <caspar> coz_: Gecko recieved an X Window system error
[09:34] <caspar> :|
[09:34] <abes> ArrenLex: yeah... tar.gz seems more useful ;]  thanks!
[09:34] <poningru> Inez: just go to /etc/init.d and remove the tomcat from there
[09:34] <mordof> DARKGuy: hmmm.. print screen only takes one X instance at a time?
[09:34] <coz_> caspar, well we have an error and now we have to find what it means, unless someoneknows it by looking at it you may have to google the problem...
[09:34] <poningru> or better would be to uncomment it from rc
[09:34] <ArrenLex> abes: the link above points to this .tar.gz; you just needed quotes, but wahtever.
[09:34] <DARKGuy> mordof: Ah, I forgot to mention, I have XFCE
[09:34] <abes> ArrenLex: ok... got it :
[09:34] <poningru> but I would just move it to a folder called /etc/noninit or something
[09:34] <jimmy20013> Flannel: Thanks for the help. It is working now
[09:34] <coz_> keep that error  visible and try asking with that error, or goggle that error and see what comes up
[09:35] <DARKGuy> mordof: I tried import -window root img.jpg, but it only takes the first screen
[09:35] <Inez> poningru Is it enought to -x on it (chmod)?
[09:35] <abes> ArrenLex: should i just copy the content to specific folder or should I make it?
[09:35] <luke_> sup folks.  Quick question.  I'm installing themes from gnome-look.org, but I'm not quite sure what the difference between Metacity, Cgwd/Emerald, and GTK2 are, or which I'm using.  Anyone mind explaining please?
[09:35] <mordof> DARKGuy: would there possibly be another command for import to make it span? i dunno i'm not really experienced enough to know that
[09:35] <poningru> Inez: it is enough but it will throw a bunch of errors at startup and will give you slower boot time
[09:35] <nrdb> newbie question, how do I print the output of a terminal command ? where do I pipe it ?
[09:35] <ArrenLex> abes: copy it to /opt, I think.
[09:36] <DARKGuy> mordof: I dunno
[09:36] <poningru> nrdb: what do you mean print? as in the printer?
[09:36] <coz_> DARKGuy, usually you just hit the print screen button... what happens when you do that?
[09:36] <nrdb> poningru: yes
[09:36] <DARKGuy> coz_: nothing
[09:36] <abes> ArrenLex: ok done...
[09:36] <ArrenLex> abes: Yeah, copy it to /opt/firefox-1.5 or something, and then link /usr/bin/firefox1.5 or whatever to /opt/firefox-1.5/firefox
[09:36] <coz_> DARKGuy, mmm   you have ati... and....mmm I am stuck again with that ati thingy... how did you get dual monitor set up?
[09:37] <ArrenLex> That way you can use more than version of Firefox.
[09:37] <abes> ArrenLex: i copied firefox to /opt
[09:37] <coz_> DARKGuy, wait nvidia or ati?
[09:37] <abes> ArrenLex: do i need to include the 1.5?
[09:37] <ArrenLex> abes: you can use whatever names you want.
[09:37] <DARKGuy> coz_: I have nVIDIA Gf4 Ti 4200 and a Trident 9660 PCI... but eh, I could give you my X.org config just so you see? o.o
[09:38] <coz_> DARKGuy,  sorry i was thinking of someone else... ok and how did youget dual monitor set up?  thorugh the nvidia settings?
[09:38] <abes> ArrenLex: what was the link command again?
[09:38] <abes> ArrenLex: ln -s ?
[09:38] <keegan_> So you have the the 4200 in the AGP slot and the Trident in the PCI slot?
[09:38] <DARKGuy> coz_: Nope, googling a lot :P
[09:38] <DARKGuy> keegan_: yep
[09:38] <ArrenLex> abe: sudo ln -s /opt/firefox-1.5/firefox /usr/bin/
[09:38] <coz_> DARKGuy, well dual monitor set up is right in nvidia settings using "twinview"
[09:38] <Pie-rate> what's the best way to move files between my linux laptop and windows desktop?
[09:38] <keegan_> DARKGuy: Wow I never thought of that lol.  I always thought one could would shut off the other.
[09:38] <DARKGuy> coz_: Actually, I just set up two screens in xorg.conf, then in the server layour I place one to the left and other to the right, and relate their positions
[09:39] <DARKGuy> coz_: *layout
[09:39] <ArrenLex> pie_rate: samba.
[09:39] <ArrenLex> !samba | Pie-rate
[09:39] <ubotu> Pie-rate: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:39] <[reed] > hmm, why are we talking about Firefox 1.5 here? I just opened this window.
[09:39] <[reed] > 1.5 is old
[09:39] <DARKGuy> coz_: Ah, interesting :P twinview here only works with a CRT, and I have no TV :P
[09:39] <[reed] > use Firefox 2.0 :)
[09:39] <ArrenLex> [reed]  abes is running Firefox 1.5 on Dapper.
[09:39] <coz_> DARKGuy, ok.. wel can  you paste the xorg file anyway.. maye i will see something... if not others can look at it as well
[09:39] <mordof> coz_: twinview will work when the second display is a different adapter?
[09:39] <[reed] > well, he should upgrade
[09:39] <DARKGuy> keegan_: Nope, not at all. you can't have two AGP devices though, but you can have an AGP and a PCI one, but take note that the PCI one will be the one to boot first
[09:39] <abes> [reed] : well I will.... :P
[09:39] <ArrenLex> [reed] : I think he lost his bifocals so he can't jab the keyboard with his arthritic fingers to upgrade.
[09:39] <coz_> DARKGuy, no I have two monitor both lcd and I use twinview
[09:40] <pradeepvglughyd> my monitor runs fine at 85 Hz in windows i am not able to view it  at 85 Hz in Ubuntu anyone tell me what frequencies do i give on my xorg.conf i have a 15'' monitor
[09:40] <[reed] > hah
[09:40] <mordof> DARKGuy: that all depends on the bios
[09:40] <DARKGuy> mordof: Well, mostly :P
[09:40] <[reed] > Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> and Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> should be out in December (middle of the month or so).
[09:40] <mordof> coz_: but are they plugged into 2 devices and not just 1 with 2 spots?
[09:40] <keegan_> What Xinerama?
[09:40] <keegan_> about*
[09:40] <[reed] > just fyi
[09:40] <DARKGuy> coz_: o_O I was about to ask what mordof asked
[09:40] <coz_> DARKGuy, is this a dula head card or 2 separte cards??
[09:40] <coz_> dual
[09:40] <mordof> coz_: 2 cards
[09:40] <DARKGuy> coz_: two separate cards
[09:41] <DARKGuy> coz_: an nVIDIA and a Trident
[09:41] <coz_> DARKGuy, OH!  mmm
[09:41] <MeisterZopf> is there a way to use 3 monitors on 2 graphic cards and still be able to use 3d accelleration?
[09:41] <nessumsaR> can anyone else me get the resolution of 1680x1050? I tried to edit the xorg.conf file but it told me I didn't have access
[09:41] <mordof> coz_: twinview is nvidia internal.. i doubt it works with a secondary card
[09:41] <DARKGuy> MeisterZopf: Windows does it, so Linux can, I think
[09:41] <pradeepvglughyd> my monitor runs fine at 85 Hz in windows i am not able to view it  at 85 Hz in Ubuntu anyone tell me what frequencies do i give on my xorg.conf i have a 15'' monitor
[09:41] <DARKGuy> pradeepvglughyd: you'll have to use a modeline editor
[09:41] <coz_> mordof, you may be right... I won't argue with you since I don't really know lol
[09:41] <MeisterZopf> DARKGuy, awesome answer
[09:41] <abes> ArrenLex: ok... now the tricky part... i need to install plugins for java and flash to ff1.5
[09:41] <caspar> coz_: coz? can you help me with fully reinstall firefox so no addons ect with it, so also no flash player ect?
[09:41] <mordof> DARKGuy: however... keep in mind, i once had an mx420 and onboard, and i got my nvidia drivers (windows) to span the taskbar and clone and treat the onboard like it was part of it
[09:41] <DARKGuy> MeisterZopf: <.< im going to search the link :P
[09:42] <mordof> DARKGuy: i would give twinview a try anyway
[09:42] <pradeepvglughyd> DARKGuy,wht is modeline editor how do i get it
[09:42] <MeisterZopf> twinview can't handle 2 devices afaik
[09:42] <mordof> DARKGuy: twinview may act similar to the windows version drivers in that aspect, it may not.. i can't say at all how it might
[09:42] <coz_> caspar, you may be better off asking someone else... only because it is 3:42am FOR ME AND i HAVEN'T SLEPT.. SO i WILL MAKE MISTAKES .. SORRY GUY
[09:42] <nessumsaR> how do i get the resolution of 1680x1050 @ 60Hz?
[09:42] <ArrenLex> abes: apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:42] <coz_> and sorry people for the accidental caps lock although it kinda fit!
[09:43] <DARKGuy> pradeepvglughyd:  http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ there. You just choose your resolution and refresh rate, then add the generated line (last one) inside the Monitor section at the end, just before EndSection
[09:43] <caspar> ok, can someone help me reinstalling firefox, so firefox has no addons when i restart it, all setings reseted ect?
[09:43] <ArrenLex> abes: tell me when that's done; you'll probably have to do some fancy symlinking.
[09:43] <DARKGuy> pradeepvglughyd: Choose wisely and use at your own risk though. I had to do the same with this interlaced monitor :/
[09:43] <caspar> coz_: i think your capslock is on ;-)
[09:43] <nessumsaR> caspar you can remove addons and change settings
[09:43] <coz_> caspar, one simple thing you can do is go to synaptic and look for firefox and click on it and check reinstall
[09:43] <ArrenLex> caspar: temporarily or permanently?
[09:43] <mordof> DARKGuy: zomg no support for widescreen
[09:43] <caspar> coz_: i reinstalled it that way
[09:43] <pradeepvglughyd> DARKGuy, thanks for that
[09:43] <DARKGuy> coz_: mordof: k, let me see the twinview
[09:43] <ArrenLex> caspar: temporarily: start firefox in -safe-mode.  That didn't work either.....
[09:44] <caspar> ArrenLex: i need to delete firefox, then reinstall it
[09:44] <Spee_Der> Hi DARK....
[09:44] <nessumsaR> someone must know how to get widescreen resolutions
[09:44] <DARKGuy> hey Spee_Der
[09:44] <ArrenLex> caspar: try deleting ~/.mozilla first. That will probably fix you
[09:44] <abes> ArrenLex: quick question... once i have all the plugins i need in ff1.5 will they be automatically linked to 2.0 when i upgrade?
[09:44] <DARKGuy> coz_: wait, the twinview is in the nVIDIA X Server Settings? oO
[09:44] <mordof> DARKGuy: it's been a very long time since i used it, and i only used it in ubuntu with a dual head card capable.. so i can't say at all how it may react
[09:45] <Spee_Der> DARK I'm messing with the 2nd monitor and still not able to resize the bloody thing.....
[09:45] <keegan_> nessumsar: have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:45] <ArrenLex> abes: depends how you link them. if you put them into your home directory, yes.
[09:45] <coz_> DARKGuy, mm
[09:45] <Spee_Der> But it fun trying though !
[09:45] <mordof> DARKGuy: in your xorg you may have to do somethin funky, heh
[09:45] <DARKGuy> mordof: ah... well, I don't think it'll work with this trident :/ in Windows it doesn't, at least
[09:45] <caspar> ArrenLex: no still have the problem
[09:45] <mordof> DARKGuy: oh in windows it doesn't work with the trident card?
[09:45] <ArrenLex> caspar: apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[09:45] <DARKGuy> mordof: Nope :P
[09:45] <nrdb> where do I pipe the stdout of a program for it to print (on paper) ?
[09:45] <coz_> DARKGuy, it isan't permanent unless you save it to xorg only for the session
[09:45] <DARKGuy> mordof: it's a 4Mb card :/
[09:45] <mordof> DARKGuy: i'd pretty much say it's a no-go then :P haha..
[09:46] <abes> ArrenLex: wtf.... unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/libgfxpsshar.so': No such file or directory -> thats what i got while installing java plugin :P
[09:46] <mordof> DARKGuy: if windows nvidia drivers won't do it, linux drivers won't either... as much as i like linux it can only do so much in some aspects
[09:46] <ArrenLex> *blink*
[09:46] <babo> is there any P2P TV for linux ?
[09:46] <coz_> DARKGuy, you can try the twinview f it screws up it reverts back after 10 seconds
[09:46] <babo> not that crappy one ...
[09:46] <ArrenLex> abes: Oh. Okay. apt-get remove --purge firefox.
[09:46] <mordof> coz_: erm.. no it doesn't :P that's normal resolution
[09:46] <coz_> DARKGuy,  just don't hit save to xorg
[09:46] <caspar> ArrenLex: still have the problem
[09:46] <babo> I mean something with sports games etc ...
[09:46] <mordof> coz_: ah ok
[09:46] <ArrenLex> caspar: then something's really wrong with your system.
[09:47] <caspar> ArrenLex: i think i need to have flash removed aswell
[09:47] <coz_> mordof, if you make a change in the settings it gives you 10 seconds and then it revierts for me
[09:47] <DARKGuy> coz_: I see
[09:47] <caspar> ArrenLex: becouse i can brows
[09:47] <DARKGuy> coz_: Might give it a try :P
[09:47] <mordof> coz_: even if you totally re-write your xorg.conf?
[09:47] <ArrenLex> abes: Oh. You're going to have big problems... sun-java5-plugin depends on firefox.
[09:47] <caspar> ArrenLex: browse*
[09:47] <abes> ArrenLex: loll... Package firefox is not installed, so not removed
[09:47] <mordof> coz_: because that's what twinview with multiple cards will take..
[09:47] <coz_> DARKGuy, don't save to xorg file just test it
[09:47] <ArrenLex> Yeah.
[09:47] <ArrenLex> abes: okay, let's try this first... apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:48] <DARKGuy> Okay, before that...
[09:48] <ArrenLex> abes: i386-compatible arch, right?
[09:48] <DARKGuy> coz_: mordof: Spee_Der: keegan_ : my X.org: http://pastebin.ca/262221
[09:48] <abes> ArrenLex: im on i686
[09:48] <abes> ArrenLex: if thats what ur asking
[09:48] <ArrenLex> abes: yes, that's a yes.
[09:48] <ArrenLex> !u
[09:48] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[09:49] <abes> ArrenLex: I cant install the -bin either... -plugin have unmet dependencies o.O
[09:49] <coz_> DARKGuy, oh you are using xinerama
[09:49] <ArrenLex> abes: come again?
[09:50] <DARKGuy> coz_: Not right now, but it can, too
[09:50] <ArrenLex> abes: pastebin that, please.
[09:50] <coz_> DARKGuy, sorry I see it is commented out
[09:50] <DARKGuy> coz_:  ^^
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>
[09:50] <AB1> hallo
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> << KTF cso    >>
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> <<    >>
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> ,   ,
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>  3
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>
[09:50] <DARKGuy> wtf
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> << NAVER   >>
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>    .
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>           . OTL
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>   NAVER          ;;
[09:50] <coz_> Shi_Chan, STOP IT
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> <<     >>
[09:50] <caspar> wtf?
[09:50] <abes> !pastebin | Shi_Chan
[09:50] <ubotu> Shi_Chan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>      ...
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>         .
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> <<    >>
[09:50] <DARKGuy> !kick ?
[09:50] <ArrenLex> Shi_Chan: STOP SPAMMING
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <abes> wtf?
[09:50] <keegan_> Shi_Chan is going crazy!
[09:50] <Shi_Chan> <<   >>
[09:50] <Shi_Chan>    .
[09:50] <DARKGuy> -.-
[09:51] <Shi_Chan> (  ...  ~)
[09:51] <ArrenLex> !ops
[09:51] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[09:51] <mnepton> !ops
[09:51] <Shi_Chan> <<   >>
[09:51] <Shi_Chan>     ;;;
[09:51] <abes> !kick Shi_Chan
[09:51] <Shi_Chan> <<    >>
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick Shi_Chan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Shi_Chan>
[09:51] <mordof> anyone know if he's actually talking or pasting nonsense? lol
[09:51] <Shi_Chan>
[09:51] <DARKGuy> someone get the baby out of the keyboardddd!!!!!
[09:51] <coz_> Shi_Chan, STOP IT NOW!
[09:51] <Shi_Chan>
[09:51] <NadineW> hallo
[09:51] <keegan_> What if he is like help someone is killing me
[09:51] <TheCarl> excuse me, does anybody know how to startup fdisk?
[09:51] <DARKGuy> uh
[09:51] <DARKGuy> in a linux channeloO
[09:51] <ArrenLex> keegan_: then he should learn english.
[09:51] <abes> ArrenLex: lol...
[09:51] <mordof> haha
[09:51] <ArrenLex> abes: pastebin that error, please?
[09:52] <mordof> ArrenLex: do you know if/what language that is
[09:52] <DARKGuy> and that just screwed up my irss
[09:52] <DARKGuy> dang
[09:52] <mordof> if it's a language, lol
[09:52] <ArrenLex> mordof: it's chinese.
[09:52] <mordof> ArrenLex: ohh
[09:52] <mordof> well he's still spamming, haha
[09:52] <mordof> i ignored him long ago
[09:52] <ArrenLex> mordof: or would be, if gaim supported it.
[09:52] <Pie-rate> woohoo i'm SFTPing 10gb of WoW data to my laptop, going about 700KB/s, how long will that take? 4ish hours?
[09:52] <TheCarl> was that "uh oh" at me?
[09:52] <caspar> ArrenLex: i found a page with a simular error, but i don't know frenh
[09:52] <mordof> DARKGuy: yeah.. i ignored him before that happened
[09:52] <DARKGuy> Pie-rate: I want your WoW data :P
[09:52] <nrdb> what is the name of the program that puts up a dialog requester from a bash script ?
[09:53] <mordof> Pie-rate: WoW data?
[09:53] <DARKGuy> mordof: whoah, I didn't know his spamming could cause that -.-'
[09:53] <Pie-rate> world of warcraft
[09:53] <mordof> DARKGuy: yeah
[09:53] <coz_> DARKGuy, I am not sure what to say right now .. honest I am tired.. but even if I wsn't I may not know what to do... what I would probably do is revert back to original xorg.. try twin view soo if it works"by testing" only... but that is up to you sorry i couldn't be of more help
[09:53] <ArrenLex> nrdb: on gnome, zenity. On KDE, kdialog.
[09:53] <mordof> Pie-rate: ah - i dropped that a bit ago, took up too much of my time
[09:53] <caspar> ArrenLex: shall i give you the link?
[09:53] <mnepton> jono: you think you're better than me?
[09:53] <vaporglow> i wish that there was X-Fi support already
[09:53] <ArrenLex> caspar: I don't read French either, my man.
[09:53] <nrdb> ArrenLex: thanks
[09:53] <coz_> see not soo
[09:53] <jono> mnepton, hehe
[09:53] <mordof> DARKGuy: so does /exec -o cat /dev/urandom :P haha
[09:53] <Pie-rate> yeah, it can do that
[09:53] <DARKGuy> coz_: that's okay, it's another alternative and I think it could work
[09:53] <abes> ArrenLex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34925/
[09:53] <DARKGuy> mordof: Lol
[09:53] <coz_> DARKGuy,  can't hurt to try!
[09:53] <TheCarl> does anybody know how to boot up fdisk?
[09:54] <mordof> DARKGuy: it should go away shortly after
[09:54] <ArrenLex> abes: Oh, you have old packages kicking around. Run apt-get remove sun-java5-plugin
[09:54] <caspar> annyone here who understands french and wants to help me?  Ok i am defiantely tired i am on my way... have a good one all]
[09:54] <ArrenLex> Caspar, someone in !ubuntu-fr might be able to help you.
[09:54] <ArrenLex> #ubuntu-fr
[09:55] <caspar> ArrenLex: yes, but then you need to talk french issent that so?:P
[09:55] <ArrenLex> caspar: well, someone's bound to know both.
[09:55] <eloquence_> sup everybody
[09:55] <keegan_> Most European countries speak their native language and english
[09:55] <abes> ArrenLex: ok done...
[09:55] <keegan_> I dunno about france though
[09:55] <liza> hey guys.. do you know anything about this crazy thing called ubuntU?
[09:55] <mordof> caspar: do you need someone to respond to that post or something?
[09:55] <eloquence_> I need some help with the internet... I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.06 and my lppie can find a wireless network and connect to it but thats it
[09:55] <caspar> no
[09:55] <ArrenLex> abes: okay, now I'm going to give you your own personal -abes package. This package is your very own. Don't give it to other people because it will give them problems.
[09:55] <ArrenLex> abes: This is a prescription package.
[09:56] <caspar> i need someone to translate it for me mordof
[09:56] <ArrenLex> abes: http://arrenlex.diff.be/sun-java5-plugin-abes_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:56] <mordof> keegan_: not alot of people in france speak english
[09:56] <eloquence_> it doesn't go to any sites and cant ping anything
[09:56] <caspar> mordof: i have exact the same problem ;-)
[09:56] <mordof> keegan_: not the average person anyway
[09:56] <ArrenLex> abes: download it and install it with dpkg -i sun-java5-plugin-abes_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:56] <keegan_> If you can't read a website because of language...have you tried google translate
[09:56] <eloquence_> less ppl in america speak french
[09:56] <mordof> caspar: i could vaguely find out the vague idea of what's goin on.. but i can't translate it perfectly
[09:57] <mordof> i'm canadian - i should know... but.. meh
[09:57] <keegan_> Not even with google website translation?
[09:57] <keegan_> Do they have French to English?
[09:58] <keegan_> Yep they have french to english
[09:58] <DARKGuy> keegan_: for some languages you don't need much of google translation, unless you want to fully understand it, for example I can get an idea of portuguese and french because of my native spanish, and a bit of german due to my english
[09:58] <abes> ArrenLex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34927/
[09:58] <caspar> mordof: i need to reinstall flash i think
[09:58] <mordof> it's just like understanding programming, lol
[09:58] <ArrenLex> Oh god.
[09:58] <keegan_> I just know english :(
[09:58] <DARKGuy> mordof: Lol, kinda
[09:58] <ArrenLex> abes: Sorry. xD I pulled it from edgy. A moment.
[09:58] <abes> ArrenLex: ;]
[09:58] <mordof> once you know enough general knowledge about how languages work n stuff... you should be able to pick up any related language and figure out the general idea of what's going on, heh
[09:59] <james> I have written the resolution I wanted to xorg.conf but it seems i still don't have the res and i've restarted.
[09:59] <keegan_> I tried spanish, didn't work out too well
[09:59] <Pie-rate> how do i change the default player for dvds from totem to vlc?
[09:59] <mordof> james: what video card are you on?
[09:59] <james> X1900XT
[09:59] <Pie-rate> nice
[09:59] <mordof> alright then, not what i can help with, heh
[09:59] <DARKGuy> keegan_: spanish is like english, the thing isthe order of the  adjectives, subjects, and such. Once you dominate that, then it becomes easy ;)
[10:00] <Pie-rate> james: you going to fold with that?
[10:00] <james> fold with a video card?
[10:00] <Pie-rate> yes
[10:00] <mordof> nice card though
[10:00] <mordof> are you gpu folding on it!?
[10:00] <mordof> everyone in here should be folding, lol
[10:00] <mordof> (team 33 if you're not - start now)
[10:00] <mordof> soo much power
[10:00] <james> i don't fold heh
[10:00] <Pie-rate> BLASPHEMY. team 32 for the win.
[10:00] <mordof> pfft, team 33 is top
[10:01] <james> and if i did it probably would be for xtremesystems or anandtech
[10:01] <keegan_> fold for the [h] orde
[10:01] <Pie-rate> ocforums owns you!
[10:01] <ArrenLex> abes: actually, there's a better way to do this.
[10:01] <mordof> DARKGuy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>protein folding research
[10:01] <vaporglow> newbie question: I plan on switching from xp to either ubuntu linux or some variant of freebsd.  since im using xp right now, unsurprisingly my HDDs are formatted NTFS. when my live cd iso finishes downloading, and i boot the disc, what will my HDDs show up as? at all? read-only?
[10:01] <DARKGuy> mordof: Ah!
[10:01] <ArrenLex> abes: does the file "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" exist?
[10:01] <mordof> eloque: do you have a static IP?
[10:01] <DARKGuy> mordof: thanks :P
[10:01] <mordof> eloque: if so did you define the DNS addresses?
[10:01] <james> i want to fix this resolution problem than go to sleep have to wake up at 4:40 and it's 1:01
[10:02] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: Nope, you'll have to add them editing the fstab, but that should not be a problem if you can come back here :)
[10:02] <keegan_> james: does your monitor support your resolution you set?
[10:02] <abes> ArrenLex: yes
[10:02] <mordof> DARKGuy: team 33 :P
[10:02] <james> yes, i run 1680x1050 in windows
[10:02] <DARKGuy> mordof: got it xD
[10:02] <Pie-rate> team 32.
[10:02] <ArrenLex> abes: brilliant! ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:02] <First|Laptop> vaporglow: you will have to resize your windows partition(s) to make room for linux on that drive(s)
[10:02] <ArrenLex> (as normal user, abes)
[10:02] <eloque> i dony have a static ip
[10:02] <mordof> DARKGuy: team 33 is the winning team
[10:02] <ArrenLex> abes: that should be sufficient.
[10:03] <mordof> Pie-rate: which is team 32? is that the aussies
[10:03] <eloque> its a cafe i go to ... a wireless internet cafe
[10:03] <Pie-rate> don't just blindly join whatever team is winning...
[10:03] <eloque> since at home i can only use wireless dialup
[10:03] <First|Laptop> vaporglow: ubuntu automatically mounts all your windows drives so you can access the files
[10:03] <james> after i changed the settings i restarted x logged back in and it still didn't have the option.
[10:03] <mordof> Pie-rate: i didn't, i read hardocp daily and a friend is folding for them too
[10:03] <Pie-rate> team 32 is ocforums.com
[10:03] <mordof> ahh
[10:03] <DARKGuy> ack
[10:03] <mordof> you're 3rd aren't you?
[10:03] <Pie-rate> i think so
[10:03] <DARKGuy> How do I remove the pc speaker from the devices permanently :/ ?
[10:03] <keegan_> james: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <caspar> ok, can someone help me re-install flash in firefox
[10:03] <Pie-rate> might be 2nd
[10:03] <Pie-rate> cant remember
[10:04] <eloque> i'm currently residing in saudi arabia and there aint much saudis here that know linux... and i haven't found any other americans that can help so i am kind of in a nutshell
[10:04] <DARKGuy> Mom's gonna kill me if this thing keeps beeping
[10:04] <Pie-rate> lol
[10:04] <james> keegan_: no, what does that do? I am a linux noob
[10:04] <vaporglow> oh, im not installing to this system, not without backups of files. just previewing. ill probably get an old pc to install on until im comfortable with linux enough that i dont have to wory about hosing my main box
[10:04] <mordof> Pie-rate: i also made a php app that made a graph of computing power through the entire folding project.. it grabbed the website and parsed it all - because that info isn't in the DB
[10:05] <First|Laptop> vaporglow: ok. there's a large faq in the ubuntu wiki that will help you out when you do.
[10:05] <caspar> ArrenLex: van you help me re-install flash?
[10:05] <keegan_> james: its setting up your xserver again.  so you pick what videocard, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and resolutions all in a little selection thing in the terminal
[10:05] <keegan_> james: then after that just restart x and hope it follow the settings you provided
[10:05] <eloque> any ideas mordof?
[10:05] <ArrenLex> caspar: rm ~/.mozilla/plugins/*flash* && sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[10:05] <james> keegan_: thanks
[10:06] <keegan_> casper: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:06] <james> what x server drive should i use for a ATi X1900XT?
[10:06] <slicky> hey.. iv installed a win game with wine.. but the game says that it cant find the gamedisc, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:06] <mordof> Pie-rate: you said not to blindly join, why did you join your team?
[10:06] <vaporglow> is there any consensus on what the best file system format for HDDs are if you plan on dual booting linux and xp?
[10:06] <keegan_> james: if you installed your ati drivers then the one says ati I would presume, I've never owned an ATi card before
[10:06] <abes> ArrenLex: it doesnt work...
[10:06] <abes> ArrenLex: dont worry... ill do it myself....
[10:06] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy: Find what is making it beep rather than disable speaker.
[10:07] <abes> ArrenLex: I am pretty sure i can work it out...
[10:07] <ArrenLex> vaporglow: You must have Windows on an NTFS partition and strongly suggested to have Linux on ext3, with a third fat32 partition for sharing files.
[10:07] <Pie-rate> i joined team32 because i frequent ocforums.com
[10:07] <abes> ArrenLex: thanks for all the help :]
[10:07] <keegan_> Its the man trapped in the speakers
[10:07] <ArrenLex> abes: I hope so, as I ahve to go :)
[10:07] <ArrenLex> Good luck!
[10:07] <mordof> Pie-rate: yeah, oc is 3rd, oc Aussies are 2nd, HardOCP is 1st
[10:07] <ArrenLex> abes: no problem. Stop living in the past, man.
[10:07] <ArrenLex> The sixties are OVER.
[10:07] <EdLin> vaporglow: it doesn't matter, but if you want to access your GNU/Linux paritition from Windows you should make it ext3 (or ext2 - but it's more reliable with ext3's journaling.)
[10:07] <keegan_> HardOCP fold for the [H] orde
[10:07] <Pie-rate> i dont really fold much any more, my main box doesn't anyway, and its probably 75% of the computing power i have
[10:07] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: almost every terminal window -.-'
[10:08] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: I found how to remove it though, with xset b
[10:08] <vaporglow> okay
[10:08] <Spee_Der> Okies
[10:08] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: thanks though xD
[10:08] <mordof> keegan_: i just bought a new dual core 4200+ that both cores are gonna be folding for team 33, heh
[10:08] <ArrenLex> Wheee.
[10:08] <Pie-rate> woah...
[10:08] <vaporglow> wtf
[10:08] <Spee_Der> I'm still muckin' about with my xorg.conf for dual monitor setup.....
[10:08] <Pie-rate> what the hell?
[10:08] <mordof> keegan_: and plan on getting a new gen ati for gpu folding when it comes out as well
[10:08] <vaporglow> that was... interesting
[10:08] <james> it's asking me video card's bus identifier how do i get that?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> !netsplit
[10:08] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: What's your problem anyways?
[10:08] <Pie-rate> ooooooooook
[10:08] <Spee_Der> nice netsplit eh
[10:08] <Seveas> Hobbsee, the bots also split ;)
[10:08] <vaporglow> im so confused lol
[10:09] <keegan_> mordof: Take it the horde
[10:09] <james> keegan_: I just got a Intel E6600 @ 3.2Ghz :-) that won't be folding
[10:09] <caspar> alot of dc's :P
[10:09] <mordof> keegan_: oh it will be, heh
[10:09] <mordof> Pie-rate: was that about the netsplit? i have all joins/quits, etc ignored, hehe
[10:09] <keegan_> I have an old p3 as of now, so no folding for me either, I need all the cycles I can get
[10:09] <Hobbsee> Seveas: heh
[10:09] <mordof> james: why won't it be folding?
[10:09] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy: I'm using dual head video card and I can not change the resolution for screen 1, the 2nd monitor from 640x800 to desired resolution.
[10:09] <eloque> bah... i will never be able to connect to the net from ubuntu
[10:09] <Pie-rate> yes
[10:09] <Pie-rate> it was
[10:09] <james> mordof: idk, I just don't
[10:09] <Spee_Der> No biggy though....
[10:10] <vaporglow> actually.. maybe i dont need to dual boot. the only reason i was thinking of keeping xp was for gaming. is it feasible to emulate windows for gaming successfully?
[10:10] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: I think that's fixable
[10:10] <ArrenLex> Well, goodbye, all
[10:10] <ArrenLex> *save*
[10:10] <mordof> james: but.. it's for a good cause, and you don't even notice it i promise
[10:10] <ArrenLex> vaporglow: to some extent. Check out wine and cedega.
[10:10] <keegan_> vaporglow: as of now I would keep that extra partition if you game a lot.
[10:10] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy: I'm sure it is, with more study and work.....
[10:10] <mordof> james: i have 2 instances running on each for of my core duo lappy and i never notice any performance hit
[10:10] <Pie-rate> i noticed it and thats why i dont run it on my main box
[10:10] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Did you see my xorg.conf ?
[10:10] <dbe_> Which is the latest stable version of Ubuntu that is usable for serios server hosting?
[10:10] <Spee_Der> No, I did not.
[10:10] <Pie-rate> but i might just be weird
[10:10] <keegan_> vaporglow: sometimes it can be very stressful setting up games on wine
[10:10] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Okay, gimme a sec
[10:10] <Spee_Der> Ok
[10:10] <EdLin> vaporglow: there's a commercial program, cedega, that can to a certain extent. Check their website to see if it's supported first.
[10:10] <ArrenLex> Sorry, forgot my quit message:
[10:11] <EdLin> (the game)
[10:11] <james> mordof: cause i am greedy and want my system to myself :-D
[10:11] <mordof> james: all 1% of it?
[10:11] <mordof> james: cause that's on average what you will use :P
[10:11] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: I agree with keegan_ , hell, I can't even play CS 1.6 no-steam :( WoW works, Furcadia works, Tibia works (natively!) UT2004 works, NFSU works (kinda), Diablo II has issues installing but it works... it depends
[10:11] <vaporglow> hmmm
[10:11] <Pie-rate> if you game as much as i do you probably use 50% of your computing power
[10:11] <mordof> DARKGuy: diablo 2 is in the gold list, it works and installs flawlessly
[10:11] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: and it can be very, very frustrating :(
[10:11] <mordof> DARKGuy: what version of wine are you using?
[10:12] <EdLin> vaporglow: learn to play enigma and nethack. :)
[10:12] <Zoomba> hello
[10:12] <DARKGuy> mordof: weird. 0.9.26. It just hangs before copying the files :/ and does nothing
[10:12] <cyzie> dsnyders, there? still hdd error ?
[10:12] <Zoomba> what image should i download for IA64?
[10:12] <DARKGuy> mordof: it worked with wine 0.9.X though
[10:12] <mordof> DARKGuy: the wine in the repos is about 15 versions behind
[10:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> I'm using Ubuntu and have emacs installed. how do i find the "the path to your Lisp system" and "the path of your slime directory" ?
[10:12] <Pie-rate> gaming as much as me is NOT advisable. please do not try that, kids at home.
[10:12] <mordof> Pie-rate: lol
[10:12] <DARKGuy> mordof: yup, mine are from winehq
[10:12] <DARKGuy> mordof: so I'm with the latest :p
[10:12] <keegan_> I use to be a big gamer till my system went out of style 5 years ago
[10:12] <keegan_> :(
[10:12] <mordof> DARKGuy: hmm.. yeah i just tried photoshop cs2 and it didn't work
[10:12] <james> Pie-rate: I just don't get it why should i use my bandwith and my hard earned computer to help fold proteins. from the people i talk to it about there mainly concered about rankings....
[10:12] <DARKGuy> mordof: see :P
[10:13] <mordof> DARKGuy: but they never said it would anyway, heh
[10:13] <DARKGuy> mordof: I really want that program to work :(
[10:13] <chuckkh> anyone know about ubuntu-musique?
[10:13] <vaporglow> DARKGuy: think i would have any problems running graphic intense games emulated on a Pentium D 2.8ghz ?
[10:13] <DARKGuy> mordof:  lol
[10:13] <keegan_> Does folding help for a good cause though?
[10:13] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: as long as you have a damn good video card with the correct drivers, not at all
[10:13] <mordof> keegan_: yeah.. it's cancer research
[10:13] <Pie-rate> yeah the rankings are bull imo, what matters is that you're contributing to a project that saves lives
[10:13] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: I can run the Quake 4 demo from iD softwre (native version) in my 933Mhz & GeForce4 Ti 4200 128Mb without much problems
[10:14] <mordof> james: the rankings are just to get people hyped about it, it doesn't matter WHY they contribute, just that they do
[10:14] <chuckkh> the ubuntu-musique repositories don't seem to exist anymore, but I'm being referred to them
[10:14] <chuckkh> and I don't know French
[10:14] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: and WoW works here with default settings, I don't think you'll have problems running. Installing them is mostly the problem
[10:14] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: And configuring the system to make them work -.-'
[10:14] <mordof> james: if fake useless ratings get people into folding more, then it's a good thing :P and that's what happens mostly
[10:14] <InvisiblePinkUni> !sbcl
[10:14] <ubotu> sbcl: A Common Lisp compiler and development system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-2 (edgy), package size 8157 kB, installed size 28008 kB
[10:14] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: but once they work, you're set :D
[10:14] <vaporglow> fun
[10:14] <Pie-rate> furthermore, it hardly uses any bandwidth, literally unnoticeable unless you're on dialup
[10:14] <InvisiblePinkUni> !slime
[10:14] <ubotu> slime: Superior LISP Interaction Mode for Emacs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:20060618-1 (edgy), package size 548 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[10:14] <EdLin> InvisiblePinkUni: you've installed slime, right? The docs in the /usr/share/doc (I guess /usr/share/doc/slime or some-such) show how to set it up. The "lisp system" is your lisp interpreter, the slime directory is where your source files will live I believe. You'll need to specify these in elisp in your ~/.emacs file
[10:15] <InvisiblePinkUni> EdLin: i dont have slime :o i only have sbcl
[10:15] <keegan_> One day Linux will be reconized in the gaming world..
[10:15] <DARKGuy> vaporglow: However if you want to spend some bucks, cedega is a good alternative for games that don't work very good in WINE (WoW plays awesomely there)
[10:15] <Pie-rate> .... i learned lisp a while ago. lots of irritating stupid parenthesis.
[10:15] <EdLin> InvisiblePinkUni: sbcl must have installed slime as a dependency.
[10:15] <vaporglow> I haven't been able to find out whether my video card is supported either. Its a nVidia geforce 7300 LE
[10:15] <kandinski> I am trying to install the nvidia binary driver with nvidia's own installer, but it says I should not be running xorg. How can I shut down xorg?
[10:15] <keegan_> You can get cedega from a friend of mine called bit t.
[10:15] <keegan_> haha
[10:15] <P2500> Heh.
[10:16] <DARKGuy> keegan_: Yup.  But compiled for 64-bit?
[10:16] <EdLin> InvisiblePinkUni: slime is a very nice emacs IDE for lisp, you really *want* to get it running.
[10:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> EdLin: i want to learn lisp...
[10:16] <InvisiblePinkUni> EdLin: but i'm using Dapper, and cant find slime ....
[10:17] <EdLin> InvisiblePinkUni: those errors are from slime, not sbcl.
[10:17] <Pie-rate> i dont see why anyone would WANT to write anything in lisp
[10:17] <emxppp1> !info slime dapper
[10:17] <ubotu> Package slime does not exist in dapper
[10:17] <EdLin> slime is DFSG non-free
[10:17] <EdLin> so it might be in multiverse
[10:17] <InvisiblePinkUni> EdLin: oh ok
[10:17] <keegan_> Its hard to understand someone with a lisp imagine someone writing with one
[10:18] <DARKGuy> lol keegan_
[10:18] <vaporglow_> !&*(^@!!!!
[10:18] <Spee_Der> That was cute keeg
[10:18] <james> brb
[10:18] <vaporglow_> stupid university network and 3 am resets
[10:19] <vaporglow_> now i have to start downloading the ISOs again.. transfer broke
[10:19] <vaporglow_> they were almost done
[10:19] <emxppp1> vaporglow_: wget -c ... ?
[10:20] <vaporglow_> emxppp1: im on xp right now, was downloading the live cd for ubuntu and kubuntu
[10:20] <kandinski> I run a centrino laptop but I have a -386 kernel. Do I need a generic one? How do I change it for a generic one?
[10:20] <keegan_> Nothing kills me more then when my internet goes out and I have to install a brand new huge file again
[10:20] <emxppp1> vaporglow_: i am sure xp also has tools for resuming aborted http downloads
[10:20] <vaporglow_> but the university LAN forces you to reauthenticate at 3am
[10:20] <EdLin> wget and bittorrent both have ways of resuming interrupted downloads
[10:21] <keegan_> wget is just too much work.
[10:21] <keegan_> on windows
[10:21] <vaporglow_> and any transfers going on when the network boots you are considered done (at least by firefox)
[10:21] <EdLin> keegan_: wget -c <paste URL>
[10:21] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy: If it helps any, I am using the MGA400/450 dual head card with appropriate drivers. I think it is perhaps the monitors as each is different as well as my understanding of what I'm doing or trying to do.
[10:21] <zorglu_> q. recently my download of ubuntu iso via bittorrent went to 1.2mbyte/s to 300kbyte/s, any body experiences the same thing ?
[10:21] <EdLin> keegan_: how's that too much work?
[10:21] <loca|host> can anyone tell me why my bugreport is still unconfirmed since one week ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/73119
[10:21] <keegan_> typing all that compared to a click of a button
[10:21] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: Ah, sorry, I forgot to give you my xorg.org - by the way, can you paste yours so I try to guide you?
[10:21] <keegan_> May the jury rest its case
[10:22] <Spee_Der> DARKGuy: No problem. Let me finger out how to post mine.
[10:22] <vaporglow_> unfortunately the only way i can get bittorrent to work is by tunneling out to a friends ssh server (which is down right now)
[10:22] <Spee_Der> !pastebin