[18:48] <_2> that's base two.    and just suscently define your isssue and the desired end. Voyager529
[18:49] <_2> susenctly   maybe
[18:49]  * _2 not spell squat
[18:49] <Voyager529> sorry, _2. I'm trying to get libSDL installed so that I can use xwax. It doesn't appear to be in the repositories and I'm still command line stupid.....
[18:49] <aanderse> libsdl is in the repos
[18:50] <_2> !info libsdl
[18:50] <_2> !find libsdl
[18:50] <Voyager529> *light bulb*
[18:50] <Voyager529> so would I be better off trying this in Mint?
[18:50] <aanderse> !find libsdl1.2
[18:50] <aanderse> :)
[18:53] <_2> !info {libsdl-image1.2,libsdl-sound1.2}
[18:53] <Voyager529> so basically libSDL 2.0 doesn't work in ubuntu 8.x; would it work in Linux Mint?
[18:54]  * _2 watches the bot freek out like it can't expand a simple glob  ....
[18:54] <yurimxpxman> I just accidentally overwrited a file with mv. See here <http://pastebin.com/m379aa026>. Is there any way to get this back?
[18:55] <_2> Voyager529 ah 2.0    hmm lets do a find on that first.
[18:55] <_2> !find libsdl2
[18:55] <_2> so it's source or forget it, i guess.
[18:55] <Voyager529> gotcha
[18:55]  * Voyager529 grabs MINT CD
[18:56] <Voyager529> if I'm not back, you know it worked =)
[18:56] <Voyager529> thanks for your help, base two!
[18:57] <aanderse> what's sdl2? i've never heard of that
[18:58] <_2> yurimxpxman looks like you need to retrieve both 2008-08-14.php and 2008-08-14.html from your backups.
[18:59] <grifon> =)
[18:59] <grifon> доброго вечера
[18:59] <bazhang> !ru
[19:00] <_2> yurimxpxman and you have vi opening a graphical window ???       </shutters>
[19:02] <yurimxpxman> _2: no... it's an ssh session with X forwarding enabled
[19:03] <SmokeEater85911> mornin
[19:03] <_2> yurimxpxman vi file.name yelds >>>     8. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.  <<< looks like vi is trying to open a graphical window to me.   what did i miss ?      or just forget i mentioned it.
[19:04] <RurouniJones> Anyone got any recommendations about hardware for a home server? preferably small, must be fanless, have 1TB and linux friendly components
[19:04] <yurimxpxman> _2: I have no idea why it said that. It's not a graphical app at all.. it's not gvim or anything
[19:06] <_2> yurimxpxman hmmm your "vi" may be a shell wraper that detects $DISPLAY and uses gvim    idk.      alias | grep vi  ;file `which vi`
[19:07] <_2> yurimxpxman at any rate.   i doubt that the overwriten file would be recoverable if you have emergency remount readonly as soon as it sync'd    and unless it's a really really important peace of work, it's not worth it to try.   hope you had backups.
[19:08] <yurimxpxman> _2: I'm trying foremost right now
[19:10] <_2> well i don't mean to discurrage but the file was not deleted, it was overwriten,  so that will most likely fail.
[19:10] <_2> !info foremost
[19:11] <_2> foremost - Recover files using their headers and footers
[19:11] <yurimxpxman> _2: well, I'm hoping that on a 750GB hdd, my remaining 300GB will provide some sort of cushion around it :)
[19:14] <_2> if, and that is always an operative word.   if you succeed,  please let me know.      i always like to hear about miracles
[19:15] <forty-seven> hi all, newbie question: what is difference between Kubuntu 8.04 and the Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix??
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> one has KDE3 one has KDS4
[19:16] <forty-seven> ahh
[19:16] <forty-seven> ok
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> !kde3
[19:16] <forty-seven> so KDE4 it is!
[19:16] <forty-seven> :D
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> kde 4 sucks
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> its still new, still buggy and not quite there yet
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> KDE3 is still fully supported and most of the kinks are worked out because of it's age
[19:16] <forty-seven> so...
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> i'd go with KDE3
[19:17] <forty-seven> for a first timer, go with KDE3?
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> *nod*
[19:17] <_2> !both
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> its technically KDE3.5.9 but who's counting
[19:17] <_2> also kde4.1....  but who's counting that either
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> exactly..
[19:18] <SmokeEater85911> forty-seven: get KDE3
[19:18] <forty-seven> roger
[19:18] <forty-seven> thanks
[19:18] <forty-seven> :D
[19:18] <SmokeEater85911> *kicks sound issue*
[19:18] <forty-seven> i was gonna use gentoo
[19:18] <stab> is it better to install KD3 than ubuntu?
[19:18] <_2> forty-seven and you can add kde4 to that and make up your own mind.
[19:18] <forty-seven> but I keep having problems with it
[19:18] <forty-seven> so I'm thinking kubuntu would be a better starting point
[19:18] <_2> stab is 9am better than 9pm ?
[19:18] <SmokeEater85911> stab its all user preference..
[19:19] <_2> A.   "they install software."
[19:19] <stab> can kubuntu be installed with windows in dual booting?
[19:20] <SmokeEater85911> yup
[19:20] <forty-seven> yeah
[19:20] <SmokeEater85911> thats what Im doing with vista
[19:20] <stab> it is the same thing?
[19:20] <forty-seven> i got one vista pc, not my choice though
[19:20] <_2> stab dual or tripple or quad or....
[19:20] <stab> with a cd?
[19:20] <_2> yep
[19:20] <SmokeEater85911> yeah I hate vista.. im trying to move away from M$ though
[19:20] <stab> so
[19:20] <stab> I will install my new hdd as a slave
[19:21] <SmokeEater85911> you can either install a new HDD or partition your existing one
[19:21] <forty-seven> my friend installed vista and was using the pc
[19:21] <stab> delete ubuntu and then install kubunu?
[19:21] <forty-seven> eventually I'll nuke it and install several OSes
[19:21] <forty-seven> its my media PC, so I'd like to be able to run some old win 98 games
[19:21] <stab> what will my bios will do with that
[19:21] <SmokeEater85911> do youhave ubuntu on your other hdd?
[19:21] <_2> linux doesn't care what disk it's on,  doesn't care if it has a partition or not, much less if the partition is primary or not.    all that matters is that the boot loader can load the kernel/initramfs pair.
[19:22] <stab> when I boot and choose kubuntu it will go on my new hdd?
[19:22] <SmokeEater85911> thats all up to where you install it
[19:22] <stab> will have have to format my new hd with bios or with sudo?
[19:23] <_2> let the installer do that
[19:23] <stab> ?
[19:23] <_2> !ubiquity
[19:23] <stab> who is the installer?
[19:23] <_2> !info ubiquity
[19:23] <_2> that installer    ^
[19:23] <stab> I want to do it myself
[19:24] <SmokeEater85911> the installer meaning the installation program
[19:24] <_2> then you'll have to fight with ubiquity.   cause it wants to do it before it copies files....
[19:24] <stab> I can install it on a new hd not formatted and it will do it before to get installed?
[19:24] <SmokeEater85911> go to youtube there are videos how to install it
[19:24] <_2> stab yes
[19:24] <_2> stab that's what i'm saying.
[19:25] <SmokeEater85911> ugh so back to tryin to fix this crap
[19:27] <SmokeEater85911> apparently its seeing my audio card.. it just wont load it up for some reason
[19:27] <stab> and it will not affect my windows in anyway?
[19:27] <_2> stab it will ask you how you want to proceed, and give options   amongst them will be things like "manually edit the partition table"  which will let you use "qt/g/parted"  to setup any hdd you may have in the box or connected to it, the way you want it.
[19:27] <SmokeEater85911> stab: it wont effect windows at all
[19:28] <stab> ok
[19:28] <stab> and I dont want partitions
[19:28] <stab> why should I do partitions?
[19:28] <stab> if I need place for windows files?
[19:28] <_2> SmokeEater85911 it can.  depending on user input.  it can totally blot out anything on your hdd if you want/tell it too
[19:29] <SmokeEater85911> ah, I dunno I just created a separate partition and slapped it on there
[19:29] <SmokeEater85911> Im gonna buy a 120gb hdd just for linux, and so that way they arent even "touching" eachother
[19:30] <stab> I just have to stay in my new G disk and dont touch my C
[19:30] <_2> stab you probably want one partition.   most people find it easiest to use the installer if you have at least one partition.
[19:30] <SmokeEater85911> granted Ill have to do a fresh install =(
[19:30] <stab> ok
[19:30] <stab> one partition
[19:30] <stab> could I have ubuntu in my C and kubuntu in my G for a while?
[19:31] <adz21c> hi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's? I also have the same problem with my cd drives, they keep switching betwen scd0 and scd1.
[19:31] <agencia01> saofrancisco
[19:31] <_2> stab before you proceed with only one partition,  may i ask if you have though of some of the advantages of having your home on a seperate fs from the system ?
[19:31] <agencia01> agsaofrancisco
[19:31] <_2> stab C and G ???   C and G what ?
[19:31] <SmokeEater85911> !audio
[19:32] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[19:32] <stab> separeta file system from home?
[19:32] <stab> my hdds
[19:32] <stab> in case it wont work with my new one
[19:32] <stab> to find solution in ubuntu
[19:32] <_2> stab and ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu.   you can have as many desktops on a linux system as you want.
[19:32] <SmokeEater85911> i think Im just missing something here
[19:32] <BenPA> aanderse: are you there
[19:33] <stab> what u mean by fs?
[19:33] <_2> fs=file system
[19:33] <SmokeEater85911> i can detect my sound card in the shell, but the system wont detect it
[19:33] <stab> you mean I could make more partitions and ?
[19:34] <stab> have file system separate  from what?
[19:34] <stab> dont complicate it too much I will do it explose
[19:34] <aanderse> BenPA: yeah what's up?
[19:34] <_2> stab the root filesystem  / is all that is required, but if you have a second fs /home  then if you "need" to reinstall you don't lose anything in /home  only the system is reinstalled.
[19:34] <stab> I think i should read on partitions
[19:35] <stab> ah ok
[19:35] <_2> it's a common practice for linux users to seperate their system into chuncks that way.
[19:35] <stab> like keeping all my documets and settings in windows?
[19:35] <_2> stab sort of  yeah
[19:36] <stab> I could have them always seperate than I could reinstall anynew version easily?
[19:36] <_2> stab more like having them on a seperate disk.     but yeah same idea.    and to your las question  yes.
[19:36] <_2> last
[19:37] <_2> !partitions
[19:37] <stab> I will have a menu for that?
[19:38] <stab> I m lil lost
[19:38] <_2> stab  yes in the installer.   it will allow that.     there was a sujestion to view some vidios on utube about that...
[19:38] <stab> after I reboot with my new hdd I enter in ubuntu and do those commands for the new hdd?
[19:38] <_2> stab ignore that bot post   ^  i mis que'd that one.
[19:39] <_2> !home
[19:39] <_2> that one is the one i wanted   ^
[19:39] <stab> ok so I could all format and do what i want with my empty hd with linux
[19:39] <_2> yes
[19:40] <stab> and after i reinstall what I want on it
[19:40] <mario> t
[19:40] <stab> and I delete ubuntu in my C
[19:40] <stab> at the end
[19:40] <_2> what do yo mean "I delete ubuntu in my C" ???   i'm not understanding that at all.
[19:41] <_2> C++ ?
[19:41] <_2> :)
[19:41] <fiyawerx> _2: wubi maybe?
[19:41] <stab> I want to have all my linux on my new hd
[19:41] <_2> fiyawerx i'm wondering...
[19:41] <stab> I installed ubuntu with wubi in windows
[19:41] <_2> stab yes and ?
[19:41] <fiyawerx> and now he wants to install it to it's own hd?
[19:41] <_2> oh ok   yes you can delete that file
[19:41] <stab> I want windows on C and linux on the new hd
[19:41] <moroving> какой канал для рууских
[19:42] <_2> yes you can delete that file that wubi created
[19:42] <stab> and before to delete it could I copy my Home/user in my new hd?
[19:42] <_2> yes
[19:43] <stab> ok
[19:43] <stab> and then i could install kubuntu in a separate partition
[19:43] <stab> is it correct?
[19:44] <_2> the only thing that i would have any concern about.   i'm not sure that grub will insurrect an existing grub.  you might have to manually install grub for the new installation of linux.  but that's a simple process, well documented on the wiki.
[19:45] <_2> stab yes.    i think you have a full grasp of the situation.
[19:45] <_2> !grub | as per the though on grub.
[19:45] <stab> ok and what is grup like a bios?
[19:46] <_2> grub = GRand Unified Bootloader
[19:47] <_2> no not like bios.   if you have memory as far back as windows 9x   it's like the   c:\iosys.sys and msdos.sys   that loaded windows.
[19:48] <_2> and that's not a good comparison.
[19:49] <stab> ok I will read all that before installing it anyway
[19:49] <stab> thanks
[19:49] <stab> I hope I will be able to open ubuntu after
[20:01] <john_> Hi
[20:04] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> hello?
[20:05] <emilsedgh> !hi | JohnTheUbuntuGuy
[20:05] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Hi everybody
[20:06] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I'm happy to say after a few failed attempts I got Wubi Working and installed Jubuntu
[20:06] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> *Kubuntu*
[20:06] <emilsedgh> JohnTheUbuntuGuy: Congratulations!
[20:07] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Thanks!
[20:08] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Cause when I booted Kubuntu the second time it went to a DOS Like windows and said BusyBox and I didn't know how to fix that
[20:08] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> SO i did Wubi a second time and It worked
[20:11] <BenPA> aanderse: I created the new partition
[20:11] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I used Wubi too do Kubuntu and I had to install Wubi the second time
[20:12] <BenPA> but moving and copying the old /home to new home was confusing
[20:12] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I am the only one here responding
[20:13] <SmokeEater85911> how do I know if my sound system is not on mute?
[20:13] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> It will show it on the bottom bar on the bottom right cornor where the little speaker icon is
[20:14] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> if it is Kubuntu
[20:14] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Or if that's not on mute check your speakers
[20:14] <SmokeEater85911> i dont have a speaker icon there at all
[20:14] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Oh then you didn't install sound drivers
[20:15] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Or you did but hided the icon
[20:15] <SmokeEater85911> yeah because I have no sound and ive been trying to figure this out since last night
[20:16] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Oh that means you gotta get sound drivers
[20:16] <starenka> alsamixer?
[20:16] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Mine already had sound drivers installed
[20:16] <SmokeEater85911> well mine didnt i guess so..
[20:17] <SmokeEater85911> it detects my card in alsamixer
[20:17] <SmokeEater85911> Realtek ALC268
[20:17] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Ok
[20:17] <starenka> dont ya have it muted there?
[20:17] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Then you should have sound if it detects it
[20:17] <starenka> (alsamixer)
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> doesnt say if its muted or not
[20:18] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Maybe the sound works because I used wubi to install Kubuntu which installs drivers
[20:18] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> If you just installed Kubuntu regually You need drivers for it
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> the master channel is in red though
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> could that mean mute?
[20:18] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> It could
[20:19] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: nope
[20:19] <SmokeEater85911> no, cant be muted, because my FN+Esc is mute and it says mute off
[20:19] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: you got white - green - red as volume highness
[20:19] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I don't have that icon
[20:19] <SmokeEater85911> ah, when I mute it the 00 says MM
[20:19] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I have sound though
[20:19] <SmokeEater85911> sooo.. why wont it play sound
[20:19] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: bingo, baby
[20:20] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: that's the question worth a penny, m8
[20:20] <SmokeEater85911> maybe I have a wrong driver?
[20:20] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I'm still trying to find out how to install Beryl on Kubuntu
[20:20] <SmokeEater85911> you dont
[20:20] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: dunno i got realtek alc262 and works
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> its now compiz-fusion
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> !compiz-fusion
[20:21] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I am trying to install that
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> !beryl
[20:22] <SmokeEater85911> *kicks sound issue* damnit
[20:22] <unamanic> SmokeEater: to get the speaker Icon, you may have to manually start kmix
[20:22] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: you don't hear anything at all? i gotproblems with heaphone output tho
[20:22] <SmokeEater85911> wheres kmix?
[20:23] <SmokeEater85911> ah i got it
[20:23] <starenka> alt+f2 kmix
[20:23] <starenka> you got notebook, right?
[20:23] <SmokeEater85911> yeah
[20:23] <BenPA> can anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?
[20:23] <starenka> it doesn't play from speakrs ot to headhpones or at all
[20:24] <SmokeEater85911> at all
[20:24] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I just installed Compiz Core
[20:24] <unamanic> SmokeEater: everytime I do a fresh install I have to go in to kmix and unmute or turn up pcm and both front inputs in the mixer
[20:24] <unamanic> My sound is intel though
[20:24] <starenka> well, m8 as i said i had problems with headphones output, and i solved it with compiling alsa
[20:25] <SmokeEater85911> hmm lemme mess with kmix on sec
[20:26] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I had to use Kubuntu cause Ubuntu makes my computer graphics scramble
[20:26] <BenPA> can anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?
[20:26] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> and my computer is Brand New
[20:26] <bastian> #kubuntude
[20:26] <bastian> !#kubuntude
[20:26] <bastian> hö
[20:26] <bastian> kubuntu german channel?
[20:26] <bastian> deam jabber
[20:27] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: try this one http://blog.starenka.net/linux/2008-04-28-nefunkcni-vystup-na-sluchatka-fujitsu-siemens-esprimo-u9200-kubuntu-804  i wrote it in czech, but all you need is are the terminal commands... it can work and if not, it wont be worse, right? :P))
[20:28] <unamanic> bastian: try #kubuntu-de
[20:28] <BenPA> can anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?
[20:28] <unamanic> BenPA: do you have a partition set up for it already?
[20:28] <BenPA> unarmanic: yes
[20:29] <BenPA> unamanic: yes
[20:29] <unamanic> BenPA:I don't know the GUI way to do it
[20:30] <BenPA> I rather use konsole
[20:30] <afeijo> can I run wingames thru wine?
[20:30] <BenPA> unamanic: I rather use konsole
[20:31] <starenka> BenPA: sudo mount /dev/hdax /mountpoint
[20:31] <starenka> BenPA: cp -R ~ /mountpoint
[20:32] <starenka> BenPA: after copying, mount the new partition as home in fstavb and you're done
[20:37] <SmokeEater85911> okay... so flash is locking up firefox, which locks up the system
[20:38] <SmokeEater85911> I got sound working though.. but its real quiet..
[20:41] <SmokeEater85911> hello?
[20:41] <unamanic> SmokeEater: there is a flashsupport lib that needs to be installed inorder for flash to work
[20:42] <SmokeEater85911> flash works, it just locks up lo
[20:42] <SmokeEater85911> i downloaded some flash player thing
[20:43] <unamanic> SmokeEater: That happens to me if all of the levels are not turned up in the mixer
[20:43] <unamanic> The quite sound
[20:43] <SmokeEater85911> i had everyone up it wasnt very loud
[20:44] <SmokeEater85911> my laptop has 5 speakers.. 4 and a subwoofer
[20:44] <SmokeEater85911> I dont think they are all working
[20:44] <forty-seven> omg
[20:44] <forty-seven> help
[20:44] <forty-seven> how do I get the old konquest :(
[20:44] <forty-seven> they only have konquest for KDE4
[20:44] <forty-seven> which does not work properly last I checked
[20:44] <SmokeEater85911> once I can get flash working I can play some songs and test it
[20:45] <SmokeEater85911> i need that flashplugin-nonfree right?
[20:45] <unamanic> SmokeEater:yes
[20:46] <ign0ramus> smokeeater85911: i've always had the best luck downloading the tar.gz file directly from adobe, extracting, and installing the binary
[20:46] <SmokeEater85911> I already installed the nonfree
[20:46] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: plus, you can also get Flash Beta 10, which supports wmode and V4L2 and V4L1
[20:47] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: my mistake, its and RC now
[20:47] <SmokeEater85911> a what
[20:47] <SmokeEater85911> im lookin on the adept manager
[20:47] <ign0ramus> release candidate.  it's worked out most of the bugs (most)
[20:47] <ign0ramus> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[20:48] <SmokeEater85911> so download this flash10?
[20:48] <afeijo> can I run wingames thru wine?
[20:48] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: if you'd like.  it's pretty stable, and you can actually use a webcam on flash-based sites now
[20:49] <afeijo> can I run wingames thru wine?
[20:49] <SmokeEater85911> wow.. thats another thing i need to get working my built in cam but 1 thing at a time... SOUND
[20:49] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: and i've had fewer problems with Flash crashing Firefox
[20:49] <ign0ramus> afeijo: you're better off using CrossOver
[20:50] <afeijo> whats that?
[20:50] <ign0ramus> !crossover
[20:50] <SmokeEater85911> lets see if i remember how to install tar.gz files..
[20:50] <Glady> what is the problem with operamotifwrapper?
[20:51] <ign0ramus> afeijo: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/
[20:51] <afeijo> cool, but its not free
[20:51] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: extract, open terminal and "cd" to install directory.  run "./flashplayer-installer" and follow prompts.
[20:52] <ign0ramus> afeijo: that is the best way.  you can get some games to run under wine.  what game(s) were you thinking of?
[20:52] <afeijo> civilization 4
[20:53] <ign0ramus> afeijo: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/06/10/special-civilization-iv-playable-on-linux/
[20:54] <Ash-Fox> Civ 4's copy protection wrecked my DVD drive.
[20:55] <kristian_> thats stupid
[20:55] <ign0ramus> ash-fox: how is that possible?
[20:56] <SmokeEater85911> brb
[20:56] <Ash-Fox> ign0ramus, windows version of civ4 has a copy protection that does something not officially supported by standards with dvd drives to check the disc for authenticity
[20:56] <afeijo> hmmmmmm, thanks
[20:56] <acke_n> afeijo: http://frankscorner.org/ is a wickid site for games in linux, it has guides for how to set up games and applications to run in linux
[20:57] <ign0ramus> ash-fox: while i'm skeptical, if that's true, that is total BS!  Your DVD drive doesn't work at all now?
[20:58] <Ash-Fox> ign0ramus, nope. I had it replaced twice with same model under waranty, then I noticed a pattern. It was after every time I started Civ4 :P
[20:58] <ign0ramus> ash-fox: wow.  just wow.
[20:59] <Ash-Fox> I complained first to my OEM about the issue, they took about a month to get back to me (while I was continiously harassing them for a answer). Upon which they found some unsupported stuff with Civ4. I contacted the Sid company over it, they were extremely rude.
[20:59] <Ash-Fox> I never got the issue resolved.
[21:00] <ign0ramus> not surprising.  were you running it in Kubuntu or Windows?
[21:00] <SmokeEater85911> k I think the new ff10 is installed
[21:00] <Ash-Fox> Windows XP.
[21:00] <ubuntu> hej
[21:00] <SmokeEater85911> how do I know if its installed right or not?
[21:00] <Ash-Fox> Czesc ubuntu.
[21:00] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: open firefox and navigate to * about:plugins * it will tell you.
[21:01] <SmokeEater85911> awesome.. k here goes, lets see if it will crash...
[21:02] <Ash-Fox> I was told by sid meiers to go complain to the company that made their copy protection software after harassing them for a few days.
[21:02] <SmokeEater85911> hmm well its working but it is making my system lag pretty bad..
[21:02] <Ash-Fox> I can't remember what it was called now.
[21:02] <Ash-Fox> But I did, and I never managed to ever get a response from them.
[21:03] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: try another flash site (youtube, newgrounds, whatever) to make sure it's not the code on the site you're on
[21:04] <SmokeEater85911> gr.. im trying newgrounds.. so i know the site isnt messed up
[21:06] <SmokeEater85911> man FF is a piece of crap for linux
[21:06] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: maybe for your configuration, but it's fairly usable for many of us.
[21:06] <SmokeEater85911> it wont even navigate away from this site now
[21:06] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what in particular is the problem?
[21:07] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: close firefox and reopen it, try flash site again.  if it's still a problem, uninstalling is very easy
[21:07] <SmokeEater85911> there got it to go to some other site
[21:07] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what version of firefox are you using?
[21:07] <SmokeEater85911> k this other site im trying has flash ads on it, they are working
[21:08] <kaiserjd> does anyone know of a way to install a linux distro from an .iso onto a flash drive using kubuntu?
[21:08] <SmokeEater85911> 3.0.1
[21:08] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: ok, because as you may know the older versions had serious memory issues that would lag a system.
[21:09] <freddy_> hello
[21:10] <ign0ramus> kaiserjd: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[21:12] <freddy_> keiner da?
[21:12] <kaiserjd> ign0ramus: should this work for just about any live cd?
[21:12] <BenPA> unamanic: I am back
[21:13] <ign0ramus> kaiserjd: haven't tried it... this article is particular to Kubuntu 8.04, but i'm guessing other versions would be similar.  don't quote me on that, though ;)
[21:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[21:14] <kaiserjd> ok.... i'm wanting to try some other distros and don't want to go blow money on cd-rw's or waste all of my blank dvd-r's so... i'll give it a try
[21:14] <MetaMorfoziS> xrandr reports that the connected monitor's maximum resolution is 1024x768, but it's false. It's actually 1280x1024
[21:14] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set it to the normal resolution?
[21:15] <ign0ramus> metamorfozis: have you tried * xrandr -s 1280x1024 * ?
[21:16] <MetaMorfoziS> it's an externaal monitor, so i have tried:  xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024
[21:16] <MetaMorfoziS> but it says can not find mode...
[21:16] <ign0ramus> MetaMorfoziS: i think the * -s * parameter forces the resolution. not positive, though
[21:17] <SmokeEater85911> yup... crashed
[21:17] <SmokeEater85911> again
[21:17] <soniker89> .: 17: Can't open /etc/default/console-setup means?
[21:18] <SmokeEater85911> so is it firefox that keeps crashing me, or the flash plugin?
[21:18] <soniker89> mines to I got problems with flash too
[21:18] <matt_> I have a usb device that lsusb doesn't show. dmesg says new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address, but not accepting address. I tried modprobe -r ehci_hcd but can't get it to show
[21:19] <SmokeEater85911> soniker89: do you use FF?
[21:19] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: it is probably the flash plugin.  It happens to almost all of us.  I found Flash10 to crash less than Flash9, but ymmv
[21:19] <Zombocom> guys
[21:19] <SmokeEater85911> do there is no way around it?
[21:20] <matt_> anyone any ideas how I can get it to recognise?
[21:20] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: not to my knowledge.  I don't think there's a person here who's  had no problems at all with their flash plugin.  Linux support isnt quite up to speed yet.
[21:21] <gilboman007> i am using ubuntu and want to switch to kubuntu is there any way i can keep all my files and do the switch
[21:21] <SmokeEater85911> thats awesome.. its a good thing about 90% of sites out there today use flash
[21:21] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: write a letter to Adobe.
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> adobe doesnt care because Linux doesnt pay them
[21:22] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: pretty much.  they're getting better, as we're a vocal community, but you can't fault Linux for poor vendor support.
[21:23] <SmokeEater85911> does Konqueror have the same issues with the flash plugin?
[21:23] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: in my experience, worse :/
[21:23] <SmokeEater85911> ew
[21:23] <Zombocom> kdm isnt' working  properly for me, I install and tell the kdm theme manager to use a theme, but I boot up to the same theme every time
[21:23] <SmokeEater85911> Im just a die hard FF user hah
[21:24] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: me too.  some people say Opera works better, but i needs my addons!
[21:25] <SmokeEater85911> yeah i hear ya
[21:25] <SmokeEater85911> faster fox, greasemonkey, chatzilla
[21:26] <SmokeEater85911> like Im using chatzilla right now
[21:26] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, the addons are the reason i won't use any other browser.  Opera actually is faster, but doesn't have everything that i am used to.
[21:26] <SmokeEater85911> man everything keeps crashing
[21:27] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: you can see if you have better luck with Flash9 (which is the current 'stable' version)...
[21:28] <Zombocom> so anyone up to help me with my kdm problem?
[21:28] <ign0ramus> zombocom: are you installing system themes or splash themes?
[21:29] <Zombocom> kdm login screen themes
[21:29] <Zombocom> splash works fine
[21:31] <ign0ramus> zombocom: do any themes come by default (as in more than one choice)?
[21:33] <Zombocom> ign0ramus yes there is a kdm-theme manager package that allows you to choose one
[21:33] <Zombocom> and last install it worked
[21:33] <SmokeEater85911> ugh..
[21:34] <ign0ramus> zombocom: for example, upon installing kdmtheme, i get "Circles" and two "Kubuntu O2" themes.  Have you tried changing to one of the defaults?
[21:34] <Zombocom> yeah lemme try that
[21:34] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: remember, the theme must be a "kdmtheme" for it to work properly
[21:34] <Zombocom> ign0ramus it is a kdmtheme
[21:34] <ign0ramus> ok, just checking ;)
[21:34] <Zombocom> http://www.kde-look.org
[21:35] <Zombocom> click on kde 3.x themes
[21:35] <Zombocom> I can't enjoy any of those
[21:35] <Zombocom> :)
[21:35] <SmokeEater85911> hmm anything special i should know about with using an external HDD?
[21:35] <Zombocom> brb I'll just be afk because this is a screen session
[21:35] <ign0ramus> zombocom: but there's a whole section labeled "kdm themes"
[21:35] <SmokeEater85911> I click on the drive in dolphin, and it comes up with an error
[21:36] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what's the error?
[21:36] <SmokeEater85911> logfile indicates unclean shutdown failed to mount
[21:37] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what's on the drive? An actual OS, or just files?
[21:37] <SmokeEater85911> just files
[21:37] <SmokeEater85911> do I mount it?
[21:38] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, you should be able to force-mount it
[21:38] <ign0ramus> is it NTFS or ext3 or other?
[21:38] <SmokeEater85911> nope it just pops up with that error
[21:38] <SmokeEater85911> NTFS
[21:38] <SmokeEater85911> the error is like a paragraph long lol
[21:39] <ign0ramus> did you try * sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX * where "X" is your HDD?
[21:39] <SmokeEater85911> didnt know about that
[21:39] <SmokeEater85911> i dont know all these commands yet lol
[21:40] <Zombocom> ign0ramus if you click the section called kdm themes a submenu will appear after the section loads where you can choose 3.x or 4.x
[21:40] <SmokeEater85911> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action: Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly. Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the...
[21:40] <Glady> is it good to instaalll firestarter?
[21:40] <SmokeEater85911> ...'force' option for your own responsibility. For example type on the command line: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook -o force Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file: /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook ntfs-3g force 0 0
[21:40] <SmokeEater85911> thats the error
[21:40] <ign0ramus> !pastebin | smokeeater85911
[21:41] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: did you try the suggestion? --> * mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook -o force *?
[21:41] <ign0ramus> that's what i meant by a force-mount
[21:41] <Zombocom> argggg... it desplays the same stuff whether I enable kdm themes or not
[21:41] <SmokeEater85911> one sec
[21:42] <starenka> hello, how can i run command on every system start?
[21:43] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[21:43] <ign0ramus> zombocom: are you accessing the theme manager via "System Settings" or "KControl"?
[21:43] <SmokeEater85911> it told me im using the argument mount wrong
[21:44] <Zombocom> ign0ramus yes System Settings
[21:44] <ign0ramus> zombocom: Alt+F2, type 'KControl' and try it from there.  System Settings is buggy with this package.
[21:45] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: specifically, what arguments were invalid?  Pastebin if output is long.
[21:45] <Zombocom> lowercase K and C btw ign0ramus
[21:45] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: it actually makes no difference in Run dialogue...
[21:46] <SmokeEater85911> it says only root can do that
[21:46] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: oh, use "sudo" first
[21:46] <ign0ramus> ... " sudo mount... " etc
[21:47] <starenka> hello, how can i run command on every system start?
[21:47] <Zombocom> ign0ramus run dialogue is caps insensitive?
[21:47] <ign0ramus> starenka: i believe by placing a batch file in autostart?
[21:48] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: yup
[21:48] <Zombocom> except they're not called batch files in linux
[21:48] <Zombocom> they're called scripts
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911>  rob@Andromeda:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/iBook -o force Usage: mount -V                 : print version        mount -h                 : print this help        mount                    : list mounted filesystems        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels So far the informational part. Next the mounting. The command is `mount [-t fstype] something...
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...somewhere'. Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.        mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab        mount device             : mount device at the known place        mount directory          : mount known device here        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts a filesystem (of the given...
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...type) found on the device. One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:        mount --bind olddir newdir or move a subtree:        mount --move olddir newdir One can change the type of mount containing the directory dir:        mount --make-shared dir        mount --make-slave dir        mount --make-private dir        mount --make-unbindable dir One can change the...
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...type of all the mounts in a mount subtree containing the directory dir:        mount --make-rshared dir        mount --make-rslave dir        mount --make-rprivate dir        mount --make-runbindable dir A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid . Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd]. For many more...
[21:48] <Zombocom> !pastebin SmokeEater85911
[21:48] <starenka> ign0ramus: yep, but i want to start it not depending on user
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...details, say  man 8 mount .
[21:48] <Zombocom> !pastebin | SmokeEater85911
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ah.. what the hell
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> lol I used pastebin
[21:48] <Zombocom> SmokeEater85911 then why did you spam that in here?
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> guess I dont know how to use it
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> sorry lol
[21:48] <Zombocom> lol
[21:48] <Glady> so
[21:49] <Zombocom> you submit the information into a pastebin
[21:49] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: pastebin.com
[21:49] <ign0ramus> *facepalm* lol
[21:49] <Zombocom> you hit enter or save or whatever
[21:49] <Glady> what about rkhunter and guarddog and all that?
[21:49] <Zombocom> and then you paste us the link it sends you
[21:49] <Zombocom> not the information you sent it
[21:49] <ign0ramus> glady: what about all that?
[21:49] <Glady> yes
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Glady: that's what i'm asking.
[21:49] <Glady> in ubuntu do we have to install that?
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Glady:  No.
[21:49] <Glady> rkhunter
[21:49] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38309/plain/
[21:49] <Glady> ok
[21:49] <Glady> so
[21:49] <Zombocom> ign0ramus it didn't work
[21:50] <ign0ramus> Glady: you already have a Firewall.
[21:50] <Glady> i installed firestarter
[21:50] <Glady> i will remove it
[21:50] <ign0ramus> zombocom: hmm... I don't know why that is...
[21:50] <Zombocom> ign0ramus what they don't tell you is the firewall has everything set to open by default
[21:50] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: i'm pretty sure that's backwards
[21:50] <Zombocom> no
[21:51] <Zombocom> notice you can run any server or any program without the port being blocked?
[21:51] <Zombocom> that's because ifconfig allows everything
[21:51] <Glady> what is fun with ubuntu is that u can install and remove all the time
[21:51] <SmokeEater85911> one sec
[21:52] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: but the ports aren't "open" until theres something listening
[21:52] <Zombocom> the port's aren't really open unless a program is bound to that port, but it doesn't stop any program from doing such
[21:52] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: right.
[21:52] <Zombocom> yeah well you can configure ifconfig to only allow specific ports
[21:52] <Zombocom> Glady I like rkhunter, keep it
[21:52] <SmokeEater85911> k i forced mounted it
[21:52] <Zombocom> I'm a bit of a paranoid
[21:52] <SmokeEater85911> got another error
[21:52] <Glady> ok
[21:53] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38312/plain/
[21:53] <ign0ramus> Glady: Guarddog is a front-end for iptables, which is your firewall.  You can easily config through a GUI, but it's not necessary
[21:53] <Glady> ok
[21:54] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: despite the error, are you able to see into the HDD now?
[21:54] <SmokeEater85911> yup
[21:54] <ign0ramus> :)
[21:54] <Zombocom> Glady if you're still paranoid and think you need a virusscan look up clam on the repository
[21:54] <SmokeEater85911> so just ignore the error lol
[21:54] <SmokeEater85911> thanks
[21:54] <Zombocom> lol
[21:54] <Zombocom> hold on
[21:54] <ign0ramus> yeah, i've had that happen before.  it's says it failed but it works anyway *shrugs*
[21:54] <ign0ramus> welcome.
[21:55] <Zombocom> =oh
[21:55] <Zombocom> OH
[21:55] <ign0ramus> oh?
[21:55] <SmokeEater85911> now to get my other speakers working
[21:55] <Zombocom> I know what the error that you got SmokeEater85911
[21:55] <Glady> no I don,t want to have too much stuff for nothing
[21:55] <Zombocom> lol
[21:55] <Zombocom> it returned the error
[21:55] <Glady> and what is xubuntu?
[21:56] <Zombocom> because there was no directory /media/iBook when you mounted
[21:56] <ign0ramus> !xubuntu | glady
[21:56] <Zombocom> SmokeEater85911 are you there?
[21:56] <SmokeEater85911> yeah sorry
[21:56] <SmokeEater85911> i was trying to get my sound working
[21:56] <Glady> is it better?
[21:56] <Zombocom> Glady it's a matter of preference
[21:56] <starenka> Hello, plzplzpl how to run commands on system start regardless on user logged in?
[21:56] <Glady> u are still on ur sound smoke?
[21:57] <ign0ramus> glady: Xubuntu is better for older, slower hardware.  It runs faster than GNOME or KDE, but with different levels of functionality
[21:57] <ign0ramus> Glady: just read --> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[21:57] <Zombocom> starenka an autorun script
[21:57] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[21:57] <SmokeEater85911> k 4 of my speakers work, how do I get the sub working
[21:57] <MetaMorfoziS> can anybody help me in a little bash thing?
[21:58] <starenka> Zombocom: you mean ~/.kde/autorun? this is not regardless on user..
[21:58] <MetaMorfoziS> I wan't to read kicker's config's one line
[21:58] <MetaMorfoziS> modify it, then rewrite.
[21:58] <Zombocom> starenka no
[21:58] <MetaMorfoziS> Any body can help me in this?
[21:58] <Zombocom> I mean like when you have an ircd running
[21:58] <Zombocom> let me find the directory and get back to you
[21:58] <Zombocom> I think it's /etc/ something
[21:58] <Zombocom> I'll look at the tor daemon
[21:59] <SmokeEater85911> zombocom do you know how to get my sub working?
[21:59] <starenka> Zombocom: no stands for what? :))
[21:59] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what system of speakers are you setting up?
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> its the ones built into my laptop
[22:00] <Zombocom> sorry starenka
[22:00] <Zombocom> it's a bad habit
[22:00] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what sound card?
[22:00] <Zombocom> I tell people no even if I'm agreeing with them
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> um one sec
[22:00] <starenka> Zombocom: good practice :))
[22:00] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: i know a lot of girls like that. ;)
[22:01] <SmokeEater85911> Realtek ALC268
[22:01] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what laptop (brand/model)?
[22:02] <SmokeEater85911> Toshiba Satellite x205-s9800
[22:02] <SmokeEater85911> and where did my title bar go on all my windows? lol
[22:03] <SmokeEater85911> i just noticed it was gone
[22:04] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller  Should work for Hardy as well
[22:04] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: look for your model
[22:04] <Glady> how come people are so nice here?
[22:04] <mila> :-)
[22:05] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[22:05] <Glady> hmm?
[22:06] <ign0ramus> Glady: people usually give what they get.
[22:06] <SmokeEater85911> it only says my model at the top
[22:06] <SmokeEater85911> its not the exact model but its similar and i think has the same card in it as mine does
[22:08] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, and I just read that another Satellite model doesn't have subwoofer capabilities... Let me keep looking
[22:10] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: see if this is relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4573580&postcount=10
[22:12] <SmokeEater85911> ive been here, the link is broken, so I went to where it told me to go
[22:12] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: can you pastebin your alsa modprobe?  * sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base *
[22:13] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, under supported it doesnt even say it fixes the sub
[22:13] <SmokeEater85911> lemme paste that thing
[22:15] <SmokeEater85911> !pastebin
[22:15] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38318/plain/
[22:15] <Nyle> hey there
[22:16] <Nyle> I have severe problem with my kubuntu
[22:16] <Nyle> 8.04 hardy
[22:16] <Nyle> I try to login from kdm, and it goes like blank like its going to load the kde, but then it goes back to kdm
[22:16] <Nyle> I tried to create a fresh new user, and tried to login through there, no dice
[22:16] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: the only thing I can recommend is to add this line to the end * options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba * and reboot
[22:16] <Nyle> what could be the problem
[22:17] <SmokeEater85911> whats that do
[22:18] <SmokeEater85911> so paste *sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba* ?
[22:18] <SmokeEater85911> oh you mean at the end of that thing I pasted?
[22:18] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: paste that at the end of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file
[22:19] <SmokeEater85911> then hit save?
[22:19] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: then you'll modprobing for the Realtek ALC268
[22:19] <Nyle> anyone?
[22:19] <Glady> when I open a shell am I in grub?
[22:19] <SmokeEater85911> k so now reboot?
[22:19] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, save it and reboot.  hopefully your speakers will all work.  *crosses fingers8
[22:20] <Glady> how can he have so many speakers in a laptop?
[22:20] <ign0ramus> Glady: No.  Are you trying to edit your grub file?
[22:20] <Glady> no
[22:20] <Glady> just curious
[22:20] <SmokeEater85911> k I have to run into town, ill be back on thanks!
[22:20] <ign0ramus> Glady: No, terminal emulator is not the same thing as GRUB
[22:20] <Glady> when i m in a shell
[22:20] <Glady> wait
[22:20] <Glady> smoke
[22:21] <Glady> I have something to ask
[22:21] <SmokeEater85911> yeah?
[22:21] <Glady> what u said about ubiquity
[22:21] <Glady> I lost the link
[22:21] <SmokeEater85911> about what?
[22:21] <Glady> what is it for?
[22:21] <Glady> for my new hd
[22:21] <ign0ramus> ubiquity is what installs kubuntu off a livecd
[22:21] <SmokeEater85911> I didnt say anything about it
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> somebody else mus have
[22:22] <Zombocom> !ubiquity
[22:22] <Glady> u talked about ubiquity explanation on youtube
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> oh
[22:22] <Glady> for partitions and format
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> yeah just look on youtube how to install it
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> there are video tutorials
[22:22] <Zombocom> starenka you still there?
[22:22] <Glady> install ubiquity?
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> how to install it on another partitionyes
[22:22] <Zombocom> I think it's /etc/intit.d
[22:22] <Glady> oh
[22:22] <Glady> sorry
[22:22] <starenka> Zombocom: yes, mum
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> brb
[22:22] <Glady> it was alex maybe
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> yeah alex will know
[22:22] <Zombocom> starenka /etc/init.d
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> he helped me install it all
[22:22] <Zombocom> I think that's it
[22:22] <ign0ramus> zombocom: that's where all services can be started or stopped
[22:22] <starenka> Zombocom: yes, already googled it out
[22:23] <Zombocom> see
[22:23] <Zombocom> I'm useless
[22:23] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: :P'
[22:23] <Glady> ok
[22:23] <starenka> Zombocom: hehe. no thanx for concern, m8
[22:23] <Glady> it is cuz I lost some links he gave me
[22:23] <Zombocom> lol
[22:23] <Zombocom> starenka googling it out is a good policy
[22:23] <starenka> Zombocom: yes, if you know HOW TO ASK
[22:24] <Zombocom> yeah
[22:24] <Zombocom> sorreh
[22:24] <ign0ramus> starenka: true, cause google doesn't know what "that little thingy on the corner of my screen" is!
[22:24] <ign0ramus> someone here might, though.
[22:24] <starenka> so tru
[22:25] <Glady> ok
[22:25] <Glady> anyway
[22:25] <Glady> need rest
[22:25] <Glady> ciao
[22:25] <ign0ramus> starenka: out of curiosity, what are you running at startup?
[22:25] <ign0ramus> glady: goodbye!!
[22:26] <Glady> bye
[22:26] <starenka> ign0ramus: it's a couple of mount --binds im using because i can't get proftpd resolve symlinks
[22:27] <ign0ramus> starenka: that's strange.  I'm sure you checked the symlinks... wonder if it's a bug in proftpd
[22:27] <ign0ramus> starenka: could it be a simple permissions issue?
[22:28] <starenka> no the symlinks work within the system, but they do not if you log in via ftp
[22:28] <ign0ramus> starenka: i see.  makes sense that way.
[22:29] <starenka> ign0ramus: i thought it is because user ftp doesn have permissions to acces those dirs,  but it is... so i used mount --bind, which i have to run on every system start... maybe is there a way how to stick it within fstab, but i don't know how
[22:30] <ign0ramus> starenka: that's what i had meant, but i don't use ftp enough to know the ins and outs
[22:30] <ign0ramus> starenka: have you tried any other clients that may support this?
[22:31] <SmokeEater85911> no dice on the sub woofer after reboot
[22:31] <starenka> ign0ramus: nope, i used only krusader and opera, but i need to have it operational for wide user base, so i guess any other client wont help this time
[22:31] <john_> Anyone know about mounting memory as a fast, volatile mountpoint?
[22:32] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: :(
[22:32] <ign0ramus> starenka: got it.
[22:33] <SmokeEater85911> *cries*
[22:33] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: keep your eyes open, i'm sure it will be resolved sometime soon.
[22:33] <SmokeEater85911> its so annoying
[22:34] <starenka> ign0ramus: btw i don't think this is client issue, the server just sends dirs on LIST or whatever req, what's behind shouldn't matter imho.. f.e if you browse a webpage you dont care if it is served by apache or lighthttpd
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> if I want to listen to music i have to switch over to windows heh
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> so no sub woofer support.. no flash support..
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> *lame*
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> remind me again why so many people like linux?
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[22:34] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: flash shouldn't be that terrible.  You can try reverting to Flash9
[22:35] <john_> huh?  No flash support or sub woofer support?  I'm using both ...
[22:35] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: maybe they know how to handle it? :)
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> i cant get my sub in my laptop to work
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> and pretty much any site with flash crashes firefox
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> which locks up the system and I have to reboot
[22:35] <john_> how come/
[22:35] <john_> ?
[22:36] <john_> which version of Firefox?
[22:36] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: did you install the package in Adept and then install the tar.gz from the Adobe web site?  Because you should uninstall any Flash before installing the new package
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> 3
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, I didnt uninstall anything
[22:36] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: i mean, did you install flashplugin-nonfree in Adept?
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> it should have just overwritten the old one though right?
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> yeah
[22:37] <SmokeEater85911> and then went to the site and installed flash player 10
[22:37] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: it *should* but it doesn't.
[22:37] <john_> type: dpkg-l | grep flash
[22:37] <john_> what do you get?
[22:37] <john_> dpkg -l
[22:38] <SmokeEater85911>  flashplugin-nonfree    <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2
[22:38] <unamanic> starenka: looks like an fstab entry will work for your issue
[22:39] <ign0ramus> john_: but he has also installed Flash10 RC from Adobe
[22:39] <SmokeEater85911> but when I type in FF, about:plugins it says flash 10
[22:39] <SmokeEater85911> Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d569
[22:40] <unamanic> starenas: This works for me: /home/unamanic /homebind  ext2 bind 0 0
[22:40] <SmokeEater85911> anyway I gotta hit up the store Ill be back in a while
[22:40] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: take it easy
[22:41] <john_> In Firefox, go to Tools>AddOns>Plugins and you should be able to disable version 10 from there.
[22:43] <starenka> unamanic: hope it will work with ntfs too
[22:45] <starenka> another story, is it somehow possible to run kdesudo via ssh?
[22:46] <john_> yes: enable X forwarding when establishing ssh connection
[22:46] <starenka> john_: i have this enabled
[22:47] <john_> and X forwarding doesn't work ?
[22:47] <starenka> john_: yes, but not kdesudo.. gksudo works :)
[22:47] <starenka> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[22:47] <starenka> kate: cannot connect to X server localhost:10.0
[22:48] <starenka> (i swear the pass is ok)
[22:49] <john_> which option did you use for X forwarding?  If you used -Y, try -X
[22:49] <starenka> i have -X
[22:50] <starenka> to be precise -X -C (compress)
[22:50] <john_> did you get any error message about accessing ~/.Xauthority file when calling ssh?
[22:50] <anom01y> hmm anyone here know why sometimes when I reset my computer, kmix doesnt show all the mixer settings that it is supposed to ?
[22:50] <starenka> john_: no..
[22:51] <draik> How do I install the latest virtualbox-ose-module ? Per apt-get, it's the latest\
[22:52] <anom01y> its a 50/50 chance I've noticed that it will load correctly or not load correctly
[22:53] <john_> starenka: The other option is to generate a key and copy the public key to the remote machine so you don't have to type in the password.
[22:54] <starenka> john_: thx
[22:58] <john_> Anyone know about mounting RAM space as a volatile filesystem/mountpoint?
[23:00] <anom01y> see I just reset the computer, (third time), and now kmix is showing all the levels and inputs that it should. the last two times it didn't.
[23:01] <anom01y> an intermittant kmix
[23:02] <starenka> unamanic: heh ad fstab.. i got problems mounting to dirs containing space. closing in ' or escaping space with \ does not work :(
[23:03] <georgeb> starenka: try this from man fstab: ...mount point contains spaces these can be escaped as ‘\040’.
[23:03] <starenka> georgeb: rah. RTFM, starenka
[23:04] <starenka> georgeb: thx
[23:04] <georgeb> starenka: no problem
[23:04] <starenka> georgeb: ooo, how can i search within man pages, tho?
[23:04] <starenka> georgeb: regexp search as a bonus :))
[23:05] <georgeb> starenka: once you open the man page you need press / and type away
[23:05] <georgeb> starenka: like "/space<Enter>" :)
[23:05] <starenka> starenka: oooo thx...
[23:06] <georgeb> starenka: I dunno how to search in all man pages, if this is what you need
[23:06] <starenka> georgeb: nono, within single man...
[23:07] <starenka> one more, ladies : mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[23:07] <starenka> and i did make the newline there
[23:07] <georgeb> starenka: btw, when using / to search you can jump to the next occurence by pressing n and previous occurence by pressing N (shift-n)
[23:07] <john_> I needed to make two newlines in mine I think
[23:07] <starenka> georgeb: awsome... this makes my life soo easier :))
[23:08] <starenka> georgeb: been trying the whole keyb (letters) - cuz i know q stands for quit, but i havent tried /
[23:08] <starenka> :))
[23:08] <georgeb> :)
[23:09] <starenka> john_: made 1,2,3 of them and still the same warning :(
[23:09] <Walzmyn> in Kontact, how d'ya move an event from one calendar to another?
[23:21] <draik> Who maintains the virtualbox kernels? Seems that I'm on 21-generic, but the virtualbox kernel only goes up to 20. Anyone have an idea on the release date?
[23:27] <Nyle> I need to burn a dvd iso image from cli to a dvd burner
[23:27] <Nyle> what tool should I use
[23:31] <Denise> anyone knows how come i have problems with opera now?
[23:31] <Denise> it was ok and now it is all crap
[23:40] <forty-seven> anyone know how to get the old Konquest in kubuntu?
[23:40] <ign0ramus> hey draik
[23:40] <ubuntu> Hello everyone I have been using Ubuntu for about 6 months now.Im now looking into other buntu versions and other distros.Ubuntu was my first Linux distro experience and its been pretty cool.
[23:40] <ign0ramus> Sun now owns and maintains VBox
[23:40] <ubuntu> Now Im trying Kubuntu.
[23:40] <draik> ign0ramus: Hey there. How goes all
[23:40] <ign0ramus> good good
[23:40] <ign0ramus> i had the same issue when i upgraded the kernel
[23:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Oh. I guess I just have to wait for them to release 21-generic
[23:41] <ign0ramus> nah...
[23:41] <ubuntu> Im wondering if there is any distros or plans for any distros to make it easy to make offline app installs easy to do?
[23:41] <ign0ramus> Just download the latest deb and install, and it works on 21-generic
[23:41] <ign0ramus> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=innotek-1.6-G-F@CDS-CDS_SMI
[23:41] <ign0ramus> I'm running it now on 21-generic
[23:42] <ign0ramus> draik: you'll have to go through and re-accept the Sun agreement and all, but your VBox user settings will remain intact
[23:43] <draik> Sweet
[23:44] <ubuntu> Any of you foldk have any experience making a custom Live CD of a linux distro?
[23:44] <ubuntu> folks*
[23:47] <lgdmz> alguien me dice como puedo ir al ubuntu en espnaol?
[23:47] <ign0ramus> !es | lgdmz
[23:48] <starenka> jojojo
[23:48] <ign0ramus> draik: you there man?
[23:49] <starenka> anyone save my ass plz: how to switch locale (i already have the desired configured)
[23:49] <draik> ign0ramus: Yeah. Sorry. Opera was taking a while to die
[23:49] <ign0ramus> draik: try shooting it. strangling takes too long ;)
[23:50] <ign0ramus> starenka: Kcontrol > Regional stuff > your preference
[23:50] <draik> I love my aliases
[23:50] <starenka> ign0ramus:  this does not work
[23:50] <ign0ramus> draik: which are...?
[23:50] <draik> Die for sudo killall
[23:50] <ign0ramus> draik: nice.  i've never made aliases.  what's the command?
[23:51] <draik> dg for 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:51] <ign0ramus> why dg?
[23:51] <draik> upDate and upGrade
[23:51] <ign0ramus> makes sense.
[23:51] <draik> It did at the time :)
[23:51] <starenka> how about alias share='python -c "import SimpleHTTPServer;SimpleHTTPServer.test()"'
[23:51] <ign0ramus> haha.  how do you create an alias for a specific command?
[23:52] <draik> There is a 2-part process to creating an alias and keeping it permanent.
[23:52] <starenka> ign0ramus: echo 'alias = "what"' > ~/.bashrc
[23:52] <starenka> sorry
[23:52] <starenka>  echo 'alias = "what"' >> ~/.bashrc
[23:53] <draik> part 1)   alias dg='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:53] <ign0ramus> quotes included?
[23:53] <starenka> yep
[23:53] <ign0ramus> ok
[23:54] <draik> Part 2) (do as starenka stated)
[23:54] <draik> The thing is that you need part 1
[23:54] <draik> It doesn't matter in which order you do it
[23:54] <draik> I've tested part 1 then part 2 and vice-versa
[23:55] <starenka> the 1st method is not permanent
[23:55] <starenka> it will last as long as your konsole
[23:55] <ign0ramus> got it.  added it to bashrc.  so next login, my alias will be remembered?
[23:55] <starenka> just write bash into terminal
[23:55] <draik> Did you do the first part?
[23:55] <starenka> and it will work this instant
[23:56] <ign0ramus> yup
[23:56] <forty-seven> I think I installed KDE4
[23:56] <forty-seven> but how do I switch to it?
[23:56] <ign0ramus> yeah, i just tested it, and it works
[23:56] <draik> ign0ramus: I can't install the deb
[23:56] <ign0ramus> draik: why?
[23:56] <ign0ramus> dependencies?
[23:58] <starenka> draik: you got some nifty aliases to share?
[23:58] <AmiZya> exit
[23:58] <AmiZya> Oups , sorry :$
[23:58] <ign0ramus> amizya: slash - quit
[23:58] <draik> ign0ramus: Don't know. I will PM you the error message
[23:59] <draik> My aliases are cdmount, dg, die and dvdmount
[23:59] <draik> I had others, but didn't use them much so I took them out


[13:49] <keducahelp> help, how to install keduca on ubuntu 10.10
[13:49] <keducahelp> ?
[13:49] <keducahelp> on edubuntu 10.10
[14:13] <d3vin00> how to install keduca on edubuntu?