[08:55] <soren> Hi. I need a bit of help translating a kernel call trace entry to line of code in the source.
[09:14] <apw> soren, got a reference to the trace ?
[09:22] <soren> apw: Sorry, on a call now. Will get back to you in an hour and a half or so.
[09:35] <soren> apw: http://imagebin.ca/v/1grE6VHtfuiG
[09:35] <soren> apw: uname -a: Linux cp2-production 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:35] <soren> apw: ...which seems to be very unfortunate as that exact version doesn't seem to have a ddeb for amd64.
[09:36] <infinity> soren: If only there were newer kernels you could be using. :)
[09:36] <infinity> soren: By like 5 months...
[09:36] <soren> infinity: Yeah :( Gah. Upgrading these things is a such a pain.
[09:37] <infinity> Or 4.  Whatever.
[11:12] <soren> apw: Without the ddeb, I'm out of luck, aren't I?
[11:15] <apw> pretty much out of luck, you can prolly mostly build the ddeb again, and it will whine it is not the same, but if you make it from the tag, it ought to be right
[11:24] <soren> apw: Yeah, that makes sense.
[11:26] <apw> i don't believe we had a new compiler in T whch helps
[11:46] <soren> apw: Ok, I have the vmlinux now. I can pinpoint the line of code where it break.. Going further up the stack, I hit a module (compiled with dkms). How can I resolve that to a line of code?
[11:48] <apw> soren, hmm, no idea, never wanted to do that, good old dkms
[11:49] <soren> apw: What if it were a "regular" module?
[11:50] <soren> apw: The memory location is dynamic, so how would e.g. addr2line know what to do with it?
[11:50] <apw> it is was regular you'd have the info in the ddeb you already have
[11:51] <apw> hmm, that info ought to be int he kernel unless we have hidden it for security
[11:51] <soren> apw: Oh, I actually didn't use the ddeb. I just grabbed the vmlinux and used addr2line. What should I have been doing?
[11:52] <soren> It's been a while since I debugged kernel code like this :-/
[11:55] <apw> soren, i don't think i tend to debug that way either, i'd be using objdump on the .ko and working it manually i suspect
[11:59] <soren> apw: Fair enough. I'll keep digging. Thanks.


[12:21] <superm1> crimsun, do you have a few moments to chat about those things i was doing in ubuntu-mythtv-frontend?
[12:21] <crimsun> superm1, which things?
[12:22] <superm1> well the package is a new package i was going to introduce - and it is a metapackage which should handle some configuration stuff too
[12:22] <superm1> particularly a gdm autologin, and a custom openbox menu
[12:22] <superm1> so i wasn't sure if what i did with it to make it work was kosher
[12:23] <superm1> i made two conf files in /etc/mythtv, diverted the originals /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom-original and the same sort of thing for openbox conf.  i then made a symlink from /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom to the conf file in /etc/mythtv
[12:24] <superm1> so if ubuntu-mythtv-frontend is uninstalled, symlink goes away
[12:24] <superm1> and diversion is reversed
[12:25] <superm1> the idea is supposed to be, you install ubuntu command line system, install the package - and restart and your up and running
[12:25] <crimsun> xubuntu-default-settings does something similar
[12:25] <crimsun> that seems fine
[12:25] <superm1> alright very good then
[12:26] <superm1> i'll look at xubuntu-default-settings and compare whats done there for other ideas too
[12:27] <superm1> oh it does it a bit cleaner using update-alternatives
[12:27] <superm1> rather than manual symlinks
[12:27] <crimsun> right
[12:28] <superm1> is there any other advantage other than it looking cleaner to use update-alternatives for this?
[12:29] <crimsun> well, by using the alternatives system, you get to use what Debian provides
[12:29] <crimsun> so it's not just cosmetic
[12:30] <superm1> what do you mean by what "Debian provides", you mean as in the ability to easily switch between the two?
[12:30] <crimsun> using update-alternatives, yes
[12:30] <superm1> ah i see
[12:30] <superm1> i'll have to experiment a little with it then.  i'll switch it over to that then
[12:31] <superm1> elsewise, was there anything else sticking out about the packaging that would need some work still?
[12:31] <crimsun> well, last I checked out, the upstream changelog entries for mythtv and mythplugins were still missing
[12:32] <superm1> you mean upstream as in mythtv upstream, not debian-multimedia upstream?
[12:32] <crimsun> the latter
[12:33] <crimsun> all the entries by Christian
[12:33] <superm1> i've updated to make sure i have all of christian's entries
[12:33] <superm1> what revision were you at for each
[12:33] <crimsun> ok, I can checkout shortly
[12:33] <superm1> okay
[01:00] <TheMuso> Happy new year for those in the UK.
[01:02] <crimsun> and to you.
[01:03] <TheMuso> crimsun: I'm in Australia. :) Just thought I'd make those behind us in time welcome. :)
[01:03] <TheMuso> How long until midnight for you crimsun?
[01:07] <crimsun> 4h 53m
[02:32] <joejaxx> Hello Everyone
[02:32] <joejaxx> :)
[02:32] <joejaxx> Happy New Years (GMT)
[02:33] <joejaxx> -32 minutes lol
[02:37] <crimsun> yeah, a bit tardy there ;)
[02:37] <joejaxx> ;)
[02:37] <crimsun> like, an hour and 37 minutes ;)
[02:37] <joejaxx> haha
[02:37] <joejaxx> lol
[02:40] <joejaxx> this is weird
[02:40] <joejaxx> i created a initrd for this kernel
[02:41] <joejaxx> and it hangs on trying to mount the root filesystem
[02:42] <joejaxx> let me reboot this
[02:58] <LaserJock> hi people
[02:59] <crimsun> 'lo.
[02:59] <LaserJock> crimsun!
[02:59] <LaserJock> how's it going?
[02:59] <freeflying|away> hi LaserJock crimsun
[02:59] <crimsun> not bad, merging, and you?
[02:59] <crimsun> hi freeflying|notaway
[03:00] <LaserJock> I'm leaving for home tomorrow morning
[03:00] <crimsun> MT?
[03:00] <joejaxx> Hello LaserJock ! :)
[03:00] <LaserJock> the connection here at my parents is about 26k so I haven't been on much
[03:01] <LaserJock> crimsun: from MT back to NV
[03:01] <crimsun> ah, NV.
[03:01] <crimsun> yeah, understandable RE: 26kbps
[03:06] <LaserJock> joejaxx: hi, how are you doing?
[03:07] <joejaxx> LaserJock: i am doing well
[03:07] <LaserJock> how are the fluxbuntu packages going?
[03:08] <joejaxx> quite interesting
[03:08] <joejaxx> i am going to have to rebuild half of the ubuntu support packages
[03:08] <LaserJock> why?
[03:09] <joejaxx> they are pulling applications
[03:09] <joejaxx> for instances
[03:09] <joejaxx> instance*
[03:09] <LaserJock> what do you mean by dupport packages?
[03:09] <joejaxx> language-support-en
[03:09] <LaserJock> *support
[03:09] <LaserJock> ah
[03:09] <joejaxx> pulls openoffice.org-writer
[03:09] <joejaxx> yeah
[03:10] <LaserJock> hmmm
[03:11] <LaserJock> I wonder if it could be made more modular or something
[03:11] <joejaxx> i wonder why it is that way though
[03:11] <joejaxx> debian has language support application specific ie firefox-locale-en
[03:12] <LaserJock> well, like many things in Ubuntu, trying to pull things together into a supportable set
[03:12] <joejaxx> oh ok
[03:13] <LaserJock> at least that's what I would guess
[03:13] <LaserJock> why make more packages if you know what packages you need support for
[03:14] <joejaxx> well becuase it is part of the fluxbuntu live seed
[03:14] <crimsun> I don't see why that would require rebuilding half of support packages, though
[03:14] <crimsun> it'd be easier to just Provide: whatever
[03:14] <crimsun> not technically correct, but it's much more straightforward
[03:15] <joejaxx> well because then it whould be grouped
[03:15] <joejaxx> just like it is now
[03:16] <crimsun> right, but the smaller the deviation, the easier it'll be to maintain
[03:17] <crimsun> err, yeah.
[03:20] <TheMuso> Ouch
[03:21] <crimsun> ja
[03:21] <crimsun> though I suppose it's a ripe time to split/perform maint
[03:21] <TheMuso> Yeah
[03:21] <LaserJock> crimsun: why do you think that? :-)
[03:22] <TheMuso> I have always been on the bad end of netsplits lately.
[03:22] <crimsun> vroom.
[03:23] <LaserJock> I think I've only been on the bad end once
[03:23] <TheMuso> i.e ended up with only one/two other people in the channel after the split.
[03:23] <joejaxx> yay everyone is back
[03:24] <LaserJock> weither we want them or not ;-)
[03:25] <thecore> LaserJock: eh
[03:25] <thecore> hello LaserJock
[03:25] <LaserJock> hi thecore
[03:32] <LaserJock> hmm, seems like we could use a Merge Day
[03:33] <crimsun> pretty much what I'm doing atm
[03:35] <LaserJock> well, we need more then "crimson rules Universe" Days ;-)
[03:35] <crimsun> cool, need to meet this crimson
[03:35] <LaserJock> that's not fair to you
[03:35] <LaserJock> bah
[03:35] <joejaxx> LOL
[03:35] <joejaxx> how did the amount of merges increase?
[03:36] <crimsun> MoM ran again, I suspect
[03:36] <joejaxx> oh i thought it runs once and then all the merges are checked
[03:36] <joejaxx> manually*
[03:36] <joejaxx> i did not know it runs more than once
[03:37] <LaserJock> anybody know if it's relatively easy to get the importance of a Debian bug?
[03:37] <LaserJock> joejaxx: when it's active and working I think MoM runs every 6-24 hrs
[03:37] <joejaxx> "alert!  /dev/sda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell!" << that must not be good
[03:37] <joejaxx> LaserJock: oh ok
[03:38] <crimsun> I'm not terribly familiar w/ the internals, but one should be able to grep for severity in the bug report
[03:38] <crimsun> I suspect there's a much more elegant manner
[03:39] <LaserJock> I was thinking that what we really need is a list of bugs of a certain severity that have been closed in Debian since the Ubuntu version
[03:39] <LaserJock> and on a per/package basis
[03:40] <crimsun> hmm.
[03:40] <joejaxx> how whould one compile such a list?
[03:40] <LaserJock> we need to easily see what syncs are worthwile
[03:40] <LaserJock> or merges for that matter
[03:41] <crimsun> inspecting the appropriate source packages' BTS entries
[03:41] <LaserJock> there is also an email sent when a bug is closed
[03:41] <crimsun> they're grouped by severity in BTS output; that may be one approach
[03:42] <crimsun> you probably want to poke buxy for ideas, LaserJock
[03:42] <LaserJock> mhm
[03:42] <LaserJock> I've just been thinking lately that prioritization is one of the things we are lacking quite a bit
[03:43] <crimsun> yeah, the popcon approach is a bit lacking currently
[03:43] <LaserJock> if we can't do *everything* we at least need to be able to know what's more important
[03:43] <joejaxx> so the process whould be
[03:43] <crimsun> I've been doing it manually (trawling BTS for RC bugs in the packages I touch)
[03:44] <LaserJock> crimsun: yeah, we just should try to automate that
[03:44] <joejaxx> 1. get a merge 2. look for a critical bug that has been closed 3. set to a high priority for merging?
[03:44] <LaserJock> well, I would like to see something like a list of all outdated packages in Ubuntu that have RC bugs fixed in Debian
[03:45] <LaserJock> and the same thing for lower severities too
[03:45] <LaserJock> not just for merges
[03:45] <LaserJock> but for just a general idea of where we are with respect to Debian
[03:47] <crimsun> check for a higher Debian source package version, inspect BTS, retrieve resolved RC bugs that fit the version constraints between Ubuntu and Debian, repeat, sort list
[03:47] <LaserJock> yep
[03:47] <LaserJock> I wonder how big the the Debian BTS is to download
[03:48] <LaserJock> if one had a local cache of it creating the list could be quite quick
[03:48] <crimsun> well, you wouldn't need everything from BTS
[03:48] <LaserJock> true
[03:50] <LaserJock> but it might be more efficent to cache it
[03:52] <crimsun> well, here's where PTS will help
[03:52] <crimsun> it already provides links to RC bugs
[03:52] <crimsun> granted, those are the -open- ones
[03:53] <LaserJock> hmm, that would be good too
[03:53] <LaserJock> darn it, I keep thinking of all kinds of info that would be useful
[03:53] <LaserJock> and it'd be nice if LP could handle all this
[03:53] <LaserJock> I'll just have to sign the NDA and dive in ;-) j/k
[03:53] <crimsun> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=src&data=SOURCEPACKAGENAME&archive=no&pend-exc=pending-fixed&pend-exc=fixed&pend-exc=done&sev-inc=critical&sev-inc=grave&sev-inc=serious
[04:02] <LaserJock> hmm, well I'll have to think about this
[04:02] <LaserJock> cbx33 offered to help writing some MOTU scripts
[04:06] <LaserJock> anyway, I'm off again
[04:06] <LaserJock> cya guys
[04:06] <LaserJock> and gals
[04:06] <joejaxx> Goodnight LaserJock
[04:06] <crimsun> 'night
[04:07] <joejaxx> crimsun: i am trying to do another merge :)
[04:07] <crimsun> great
[04:08] <Q-FUNK> http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib/log.planner_0.14-10.html
[04:08] <Q-FUNK> can anyone make sense of this?
[04:33] <joejaxx> crimsun: if there is a conflict does MoM normally not state what conflicts?
[04:41] <joejaxx> for example
[04:42] <joejaxx> for opencv it has a conflict section in the report
[04:42] <crimsun> joejaxx, the files contain diff markers
[04:43] <crimsun> back after NY's
[04:43] <joejaxx> ok
[05:10] <joejaxx> he /win 25
[05:10] <joejaxx> bah
[05:21] <joejaxx> anyone else here?
[05:21] <joejaxx> lol
[05:21] <joejaxx> i am probably the only one still on the computer
[05:32] <somerville32> :]
[05:32] <somerville32> Oh crap
[05:32] <somerville32> We all agreed we were going to ignore joejaxx, right?
[05:32] <somerville32> gah!
[05:33] <joejaxx> LOL
[05:33] <joejaxx> of course all the irc clients come with /ignore joejaxx by default :P
[05:35] <joejaxx> somerville32: what are you still doing on irc on new years?
[05:38] <somerville32> And has no life to boot
[05:38] <somerville32> :D
[05:38] <joejaxx> lol
[05:39] <joejaxx> somerville32: i am trying to figure out why "/dev/sda1 does not exist" when i try to boot with this new kernel
[05:39] <joejaxx> lol
[05:39] <joejaxx> it is not like i forgot to enable scsi disk support in the kernel
[05:40] <somerville32> Doesn't exist for me either
[05:40] <joejaxx> somerville32: you probably do not have scsi discs :P
[05:40] <somerville32> sda1 has always been my USB disk for me
[05:41] <joejaxx> yeah usbdrives come up as sda1 on my ide based computers as well
[05:41] <somerville32> Welp, time for sleep! :D
[05:41] <joejaxx> oh ok
[05:41] <somerville32> @now atlantic
[05:42] <Ubugtu> Current time in Canada/Atlantic: January 01 2007, 00:42:00
[05:42] <joejaxx> lol
[05:42] <joejaxx> Good Night somerville32
[05:42] <somerville32> Good Night my friend
[05:42] <somerville32> halt: Need to be root
[05:42] <somerville32> Err..
[05:43] <joejaxx> lol
[06:06] <joejaxx> Happy New Years EST
[06:12] <cypher1> joejaxx, Happy New Year to you too !
[06:15] <joejaxx> cypher1: :D
[11:11] <Toadstool> happy new year!
[12:35] <june> hey anyone know where i can get the falcon repository builder so that i can install it on a webserver which i don't have root privileges to?  Is it even possible?  I have a folder to which i have read write and execute access though
[12:38] <crimsun> june, you can pull it from Seveas's bzr.
[12:38] <crimsun> alternately, a number of sites mirror the deb
[12:39] <crimsun> note that not having root privileges makes installing the deb troublesome at best
[12:39] <june> yeah, and all i could find was a deb
[12:40] <crimsun> the source is available in his bzr.
[12:40] <june> no tarball? oh well, i guess i'll do it tomorow
[12:40] <june> i'm not on my computer right now, can't install bzr
[12:41] <june> heh, my mediawiki installation is going like crap too
[12:45] <Seveas> june, you can also grab the orig.tar.gz which is basicaly the upstream tarball
[12:46] <june> that might work better, actually, while you're hear seveas, you don't host wolfenstein: enemy territory or true combat: elite do you?
[12:46] <june> here even*
[12:47] <Seveas> no I don't
[12:47] <Seveas> I'm not really a gamer
[12:48] <june> alright, the whole reason why i was after falcon was because i thought it might be worthwhile to host all of the games that arent in universerse (and those two will never be cause of the whole thing about being binary only)
[12:48] <june> plus games like cube, nexuiz and a few others, maybe some game demos as well, i would figure people would like to have a repository for those
[12:49] <crimsun> eh? that's not entirely correct; they could be in multiverse if they were wrapped or used a script to download.
[12:50] <crimsun> it's the license (redistributability, among others) that ultimately matters
[12:50] <june> crimsun: huh, i suppose i've been mistaken then, what do you mean about redistributability?
[12:51] <crimsun> meaning that Canonical must have permission to host the binaries on its mirrors
[12:51] <cypher1> arghh, when will open office be equivalent to MS office ?
[12:51] <june> huh... is that because they're a commercial entity? or does ANYONE require that permission?
[12:52] <crimsun> june, anyone who attempts to mirror it should have explicit permission from id or whomever
[12:53] <cypher1> :)
[12:53] <crimsun> ademan_kitchen_c, the only exception is if the EULA for, say, rtcw states explicitly that free redistribution is allowed
[12:53] <cypher1> crimsun, hope thats ok.. i removed "the REVU DAY" part
[12:53] <crimsun> cypher1, sure
[12:53] <ademan_kitchen_c> ah ok, and what about strictly GPL programs?
[12:54] <crimsun> ademan, well, strictly GPL programs should have no problem going into universe.
[12:54] <ademan_kitchen_c> crimsun: true
[12:55] <cypher1> !seen cypher
[12:55] <ubotu> I last saw Cypher<EMAIL_ADDRESS>2h 59m 8s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[12:56] <ademan_kitchen_c> maybe i shouldn't bother making my own repos then
[12:56] <ademan_kitchen_c> ah my mediawiki got close to finishing for once
[12:58] <ademan_kitchen_c> but yeah, maybe i should just submit a few of these to universe... time to try and package again... thank God REVU won't allow any crap i package past them :-)
[12:58] <crimsun> it would be better to try to get them into universe, yes.
[12:58] <ademan_kitchen_c> or rather, REVU would help me fix any crap i would inevitably break
[01:00] <cypher1> crimsun, are you working on the merge of pycaml ?
[01:00] <crimsun> no, I don't believe it's assigned to me
[01:00] <crimsun> (is it?)
[01:01] <crimsun> oh, it is.
[01:01] <cypher1> crimsun, :) are you planning to work on it ?
[01:01] <cypher1> cypher1, or else i can try :)
[01:02] <crimsun> no, I'm not. Fujitsu has already filed a sync request for it (#77038).
[01:02] <crimsun> bug 77038
[01:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77038 in pycaml "Please sync pycaml (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/77038
[01:02] <Fujitsu> Did I?
[01:02] <Fujitsu> So I did.
[01:02] <cypher1> crimsun, ok .. i will search for another one then :)
[01:08] <Fujitsu> We have to manually request all syncs these days, don't we?
[01:10] <cypher1> crimsun, i have now selected to merge libflash, and did a search on bugs but did not see any sync or merge requests.. hope that is enough for me to proceed to work on it..
[01:10] <crimsun> Fujitsu, not sure if autosync has been turned off
[01:10] <crimsun> cypher1, sure
[01:11] <Fujitsu> Well, judging by the graphs on merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html, it sure looks like it.
[01:11] <cypher1> crimsun, thanks
[01:12] <cypher1> Fujitsu, can it be because of just one to verify that the debian change resolves the ubuntu change, that the autosync is turned off ?
[01:13] <Fujitsu> Pardon?
[01:14] <cypher1> Fujitsu, i thought by autosync, the packages that does not have a conflict is synced automatically right ?
[01:14] <Fujitsu> The packages that have no changes, correct.
[01:15] <cypher1> Fujitsu, sorry is that packages have no changes or packages having no conflicts ?
[01:15] <Fujitsu> Packages having no changes whatsoever.
[01:16] <cypher1> ok
[01:16] <Fujitsu> Anyhow, I'm off to bed!
[01:16] <Fujitsu> 'night all.
[01:18] <crimsun> 'night
[01:56] <highvoltage> happy new year cbx33
[01:56] <cbx33> happy new year highvoltage
[01:56] <cbx33> how are you
[01:57] <highvoltage> feeling good
[01:57] <highvoltage> and you?
[01:57] <cbx33> yeh good
[02:17] <neutrinomass> python-musicbrainz2 depends on libdiscid0 which is in unstable but not in feisty - should I request a sync ?
[02:42] <cypher1> geser, hi happy new year!
[02:43] <geser> hi cypher1, you too a happy new year!
[02:47] <cypher1> is there any equivalent of cyberlink powerdvd of windows in ubuntu ?
[02:47] <cypher1> sorry i guess wrong channel
[04:12] <davromaniak> if any MOTU sees this line, can he take few seconds to review encadre-image and ccd2iso, Thanks
[05:06] <bddebian> Happy New Year!
[05:08] <Lutin> thx. happy new year too bddebian
[06:04] <geser> Happy New Year bddebian
[06:05] <bddebian> Thx geser, you too
[06:46] <joejaxx> Hello Everyone
[06:47] <bddebian> Heya joejaxx
[06:48] <joejaxx> :)
[06:48] <joejaxx> how was your new years?
[06:49] <bddebian> Fine thanks. Yours?
[06:49] <joejaxx> that is good to hear
[06:49] <joejaxx> mine was ok
[08:08] <xerxas> Happy new year all !
[08:09] <somerville32> :]
[08:14] <joejaxx> it has been quite quiet today
[08:14] <somerville32> Indeed
[09:16] <Adri2000> StevenK: here?
[09:31] <StevenK> For some values of 'here'.
[09:35] <Adri2000> StevenK: have you read my /msg?
[09:49] <StevenK> I saw it, it depends on what, and if you know Debian procedures.
[09:52] <Adri2000> StevenK: the two packages are djplay and libdjconsole (djplay depends on it), same active upstream with whom I have good relationship
[09:54] <Adri2000> do I know Debian procedures... I don't know if I know :) depends on what you mean
[10:53] <lophylap> superm1: ping
[12:10] <neutrinomass> geser: Thanks for the uploads !


[08:58] <bazhang> !comic
[08:59] <bazhang> awww
[08:59] <bazhang> there was one for feisty iirc
[09:02] <Unit193> !cosmic
[09:36] <Flannel> !intrepix
[09:36] <Flannel> !intrepix-#ubuntu-offtopic
[09:36] <Flannel> !comic is <alias> cosmic
[09:36] <Flannel> !comic | bazhang
[09:36] <Unit193> 'wil'
[10:07] <bazhang> haha wastrel
[13:59] <webdestroyacq> hrnz: wow, thanks !!!!
[13:59] <webdestroyacq> mwilson: If I knew all of the inner-workings of LS, then I wouldn't be here asking for assistance with a "Hello World" for rule creation.


[01:01] <mikubuntu> can't tell if i'm signd in to xubuntu .. i see a userlist, but no chatter
[01:01] <mikubuntu> could it just be quiet
[01:02] <mikubuntu> TheSheep: am i 'live'?
[01:03] <mikubuntu> :)
[04:01] <Balsaque> anyone tried installing xubuntu or any other linux on older apple desktops?
[05:14] <zerothis> I'm about to head off to trade school to learn to make videogames (or not). I'm determined to remain committed to Libre Software. Does anybody have any advice for me? Does anybody know about Full Sail University?
[05:14] <zerothis> Does Canonical have any ties (at all) to Full Sail?
[05:15] <maduser> probably not
[05:33] <Balsaque> hey techie i got it all done!!!
[05:33] <techie> sweet
[05:33] <techie> how are you liking buntu?
[05:33] <Balsaque> love it
[05:34] <Balsaque> took 6 hours due to 349 updates
[05:34] <techie> hehe, i cant update atm.... im almost out of bandwidth
[05:34] <techie> so im stuck running 8.10
[05:34] <Balsaque> lirerally saved a dead useless 11 yeard old dell
[05:34] <techie> yeah
[05:35] <techie> you got a music collection on another computer?
[05:35] <techie> if so you can install firefly media server and stream it using songbird
[05:35] <Balsaque> when i put the 8.10 in it offered 9.04, but the folks on here said do the 349 updates 1sr then do 9.04 if i want it so i did that and still havent done the 9.04
[05:35] <techie> kk
[05:36] <Balsaque> i got that altec lansing speaker setup wit a big sub woofer...
[05:36] <techie> i have 340 updates waiting
[05:36] <techie> how big?
[05:37] <Balsaque> i would of thoought simply doing 9.04 would take care of all those/
[05:37] <techie> how big is your woofer?
[05:38] <Balsaque> i dont know..maybe a foot and a half acrooss just fills the whole house with sound
[05:38] <Balsaque> 3 speaker system
[05:38] <techie> cool
[05:38] <techie> i got a custom 2.1 setup
[05:39] <Balsaque> yeah i play you tube rock videos and play alongwith my elec guitar
[05:39] <Balsaque> logitech?
[05:39] <techie> nah
[05:39] <techie> the left and right speakers are running off of a yamaha home theatre AMP
[05:39] <Balsaque> i really dont know how good mine is but i can crank it all the way it doesnt crackle stays clear and LOUD
[05:39] <techie> and my woofer runs its own amp from the yamahas output
[05:40] <Balsaque> i got the turtle beach montegeo sound card in the computer also when i bought it
[05:41] <Balsaque> sounds like yours is even more powerful
[05:42] <Balsaque> so now i want to burn xubuntu on a disc for my next project but all i have is dvds will it burn a cd on a dvd
[05:42] <techie> yeah, you can burn a cd iso to a DVD providing you have a dvd burner
[05:42] <techie> kind of a waste though
[05:43] <techie> a 4.7gig disc with only 700mb on it
[05:43] <Balsaque> yeah i know...says cd burner on this puter
[05:43] <Balsaque> have to a cd
[05:44] <Balsaque> i want to buy one of those weird lookin g4 desktops and put xubuntu in it
[05:44] <techie> hey, what IRC client are you using?
[05:44] <Balsaque> web chat frenode net
[05:44] <techie> you gotta remember if you go for a G4 you need to get the ppc version
[05:44] <Balsaque> whats that
[05:44] <techie> you should download and install xchat
[05:45] <Balsaque> so it is easier to chat?
[05:45] <techie> thats the version required to run on computers that use the powerpc architecture
[05:45] <techie> yeah
[05:45] <techie> hit alt+F2
[05:45] <Balsaque> so how did i do this
[05:45] <techie> and type sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:46] <techie> and run it in a terminal
[05:46] <Balsaque> but right now i am on a computer i dont own so i cant
[05:46] <Balsaque> can do it on my dell sometime
[05:46] <techie> oh, your at work
[05:46] <techie> im a student
[05:46] <techie> so im home earlier
[05:47] <Balsaque> no...my old dell is in the basemnet too many wires...when the wife brings the lapper home is use it upstairs-wireless
[05:47] <Balsaque> gets cold down there....spent 6 hours fixing the dell took a break
[05:48] <Balsaque> nice up here in the living room on this wireless mac
[05:48] <techie> hehe
[05:49] <techie> is the dell a laptop or desktop?
[05:49] <Balsaque> desktop
[05:49] <techie> aah
[05:49] <Balsaque> got it aug of 1998 from dell
[05:50] <techie> if you find a free powerpoint in a corner you could run it upstairs
[05:50] <Balsaque> whats that
[05:50] <techie> a wall socket
[05:50] <techie> a power outlet
[05:50] <Balsaque> the dell you mean
[05:50] <techie> yeah
[05:51] <techie> find somewhere out of the way up against a wall then all the cables are hidden behind the computer
[05:51] <Balsaque> yeah but it hard wired in wires all over heck speakers allkingf stuff printer wires...big mess
[05:51] <Balsaque> then dust gets all over all the wires...i just like alpper up[ here
[05:52] <Balsaque> old big dumb lookin monitor
[05:52] <Balsaque> and it is white? and got dingy over the years
[05:52] <Balsaque> now its like kinda turned tan
[05:52] <techie> hehe
[05:53] <Balsaque> i see those funky g4 mac desktops real cheap on the net ill bet they run linux better than my dell
[05:53] <Balsaque> they are from2002 mine is 1998
[05:53] <techie> yep
[05:54] <techie> but you have to be careful about some of them
[05:54] <Balsaque> ?
[05:54] <techie> get a slot loader rather than a tray loader
[05:54] <Balsaque> ?
[05:54] <techie> the original ones had a tray loading cd drive like a regular computer
[05:55] <techie> dont get one of those ones
[05:55] <Balsaque> these have the weird round ones with the monitor on top
[05:55] <techie> brb
[05:55] <Balsaque> you mean the ones that look like an old tv
[05:55] <techie> yeah
[05:55] <techie> the jellybeans
[05:55] <Balsaque> yep i dont want those
[05:56] <Balsaque> i want to do xubumtu next less footprint and supposedely does same stuff
[05:57] <techie> yeah
[05:57] <Balsaque> hey i found a guy with my exact same puter for sell for 59 bucks
[05:57] <Balsaque> prolly take 25 noone is buyin it
[05:58] <Balsaque> on ebay
[05:58] <Balsaque> type in dell xps r400
[05:58] <Balsaque> that is my tower
[05:58] <Balsaque> but his is 8.4 g HD mine is 10
[05:58] <Balsaque> and i put way more ram n
[05:58] <Balsaque> free shipping too
[06:00] <techie> just thinking if you wanted to be really tricky you could set up ssh with X forwarding and access your dell from the mac
[06:00] <Balsaque> see your a real tech i dont know anyting about that
[06:00] <techie> hehe, im not a real tech, im still learning
[06:01] <Balsaque> yeah but you fre inet i want to leran that sometime
[06:01] <Balsaque> learn thea ausralia stuff i mean
[06:01] <techie> lol, its not actually that hard
[06:01] <techie> its simply a secure tunnel
[06:02] <Balsaque> so i can also get a whole bunch of free dells where i work
[06:02] <Balsaque> business puters
[06:03] <Balsaque> they give em away if you get a letter from a non proft business
[06:03] <Balsaque> saw a guy haul 30 of em out yesterday
[06:03] <techie> cool
[06:04] <Balsaque> maybe they do it where you live,,,do yu know abot this
[06:04] <techie> nope
[06:04] <Balsaque> heres how it works
[06:04] <Balsaque> big corps but hundreds even thousands of dells at a time
[06:05] <techie> kk
[06:05] <Balsaque> after4-5 yrs they prefer to dump some of them indtead of upgrading so if you conmtact them they will have a policy...you get a letter from a non prift stating they want them
[06:06] <Balsaque> but the nn profit will give you some for getting them in fsct they dont usually want any cause hte need OS'sc
[06:07] <Balsaque> they dont know how to put in the OS
[06:07] <Balsaque> that is wheer free linux comes in
[06:07] <Balsaque> see the big corp wipes em clean of windows when they get rid iof em
[06:07] <techie> yep
[06:08] <Balsaque> then the bog corp wites them off their taxes
[06:08] <Balsaque> so i tried calling a local non proft i told i neede the letter they said they would give me the letter but they dont want old comouter with no OS
[06:09] <techie> occasionally schools around here do that sort of thing, but its more of knowing the tech than a letter
[06:09] <Balsaque> cause they dont want to spen money buying windows and other stuu  like word
[06:09] <Balsaque> yes same idea
[06:09] <techie> but unfortunately none of the schools will be upgrading soon
[06:10] <techie> my school upgraded half way through last year
[06:10] <Balsaque> try big companies
[06:10] <techie> big companies dont run through public domain around here
[06:10] <techie> they all get sold off privately
[06:10] <Balsaque> i see
[06:11] <techie> hrmm, what machines are you able to get?
[06:11] <techie> im not interested in the whole machine, just the motherboard
[06:11] <Balsaque> this place near me has 900 employees and at least a couple thousand dells in 3 buildings
[06:12] <Balsaque> they are dell business puters gray color isee them all over ebay because they are doing the same thing i may do
[06:12] <Balsaque> if you type in dell computer and nothing else they come up 1st on ebay
[06:13] <Balsaque> kinda bland looking but tough as heck
[06:13] <Balsaque> gsx's i think they were called
[06:14] <Balsaque> i use em all day at work they run xp pro real well and will be like a jet with ubuntu
[06:14] <techie> im looking for a new motherboard to replace my outdated one
[06:14] <Balsaque> infact some of the engineer in htere use unix or liniux
[06:14] <Balsaque> i am ust getting into this when i get my 1st batch i find you in here
[06:15] <techie> kk
[06:15] <Balsaque> give you them
[06:15] <Balsaque> like i say this guy i work got 30
[06:15] <techie> im always interested in parts and hard drives
[06:15] <Balsaque> his were complete monitor key mouse but no OS
[06:16] <techie> i have enough monitors, mice and keyboards
[06:16] <techie> and i usually run my systems headless or without input
[06:19] <Balsaque> ill get you a mboard or two you teach met the tunnel trick
[06:22] <techie> note to self: be careful when choosing output video settings for mplayer, it may crash X
[06:24] <techie> omg, my buntu intsall is going bad
[06:24] <Balsaque> no way
[06:24] <techie> yes way
[06:24] <Balsaque> how doe s that happen
[06:25] <techie> it happens when windows dont open with a window manager
[06:25] <Balsaque> so you still have windows
[06:25] <techie> and therefore they have no title bar which means you cant resize them or close them
[06:27] <Balsaque> this mac osx 10.4.11 is smooottthhh
[06:27] <techie> hehe, im running that version on my powerbook
[06:27] <techie> however im running server edition
[06:28] <Balsaque> so good is actually boring
[06:28] <Balsaque> runs the same everyday no tinkering
[06:31] <Balsaque> hey i got an idea...ubuntu is non profit if they get me the letter i fiil my garage with computers and unbuntu people can  have em for free and ill kepp on ehere and there to fool arooung with
[06:33] <Balsaque> (whew poor typing skills here)
[06:34] <techie> i reckon that could work
[06:35] <techie> look around for your local LUG (linux users group)
[06:35] <Balsaque> i'll email ubuntu or linux
[06:35] <Balsaque> problem the people would have to pay shipping
[06:36] <techie> yeah, but thats cheaper than buying a pc
[06:37] <Balsaque> but i bet sometime someone would pay shipping and get a bad one
[06:37] <Balsaque> so i ship another one!
[06:38] <Balsaque> they are tough though they never turn em off for years
[06:38] <Balsaque> optiplex and gsx stuff like that
[06:51] <techie> welcome nikolam
[06:56] <Balsaque> when i was doing my install for awhile it was kinda like in DOS or something (black screen) and it flashed some words like "failed bios 1998 ctoff date 2000" any idea what that means
[06:56] <Balsaque> 1998 cutoff i meant
[06:57] <Balsaque> made me think i should update my bios or something
[06:57] <Balsaque> 'you into thats tuff techie
[06:58] <techie> sorta
[06:58] <techie> i know stuff about bioses, how to configure them etc but i dont really specialise in them
[06:59] <Balsaque> i know i never updated it...since 1998 so i wonder if that would help my new ubuntu run better
[07:02] <techie> probably not
[07:02] <techie> you can if you want to
[07:03] <Balsaque> well i dont know how dell will do it though
[07:03] <Balsaque> i dont want to mess with it if is no big deal though
[07:05] <techie> heya SiDi
[07:06] <SiDi> hi
[07:09] <Balsaque> does that friefly media sonbird thing take up a lot of space on my lil 10g HD techie?
[07:09] <techie> nope
[07:09] <techie> ever used itunes music sharing?
[07:09] <Balsaque> cause when i was done i noticed i had used up 2.9 out 10 on my HD
[07:10] <Balsaque> for 8.10 and 349 updates
[07:10] <Balsaque> now i see xubuntu is only like 1.5
[07:10] <Balsaque> wondering why i didnt do that one
[07:11] <techie> brb, gonna jump on my laptop
[07:11] <Balsaque> yup
[07:17] <Balsaque> another thing ubuntu improved here...is now i can get cable internet. they would not put it in my house unless i upgraded away frm w98
[07:24] <nikolam> techie, hello :) thanks
[07:24] <techie> okay im back, on my mac
[07:26] <Balsaque> what kinda man is it
[07:26] <Balsaque> mac*
[07:26] <techie> PowerBook G4
[07:26] <Balsaque> this is ibook g4
[07:27] <Balsaque> is it one of those aluminum ones
[07:27] <techie> yep
[07:27] <Balsaque> how bis is the motor
[07:28] <Balsaque> big*
[07:28] <techie> 15 i think
[07:28] <Balsaque> ever run the new snow leopard
[07:29] <techie> nope, i dont have a chance in hell of running leopard
[07:29] <techie> its a 400mhz cpu
[07:30] <techie> i would stick linux on it but i need to get the old versions
[07:30] <techie> actually that might be something for me to do
[07:31] <techie> i think i migght have an old 7.04 cd around somewhere
[07:31] <Balsaque> cant you put xubuntu on it
[07:31] <techie> yeah, but the graphics folds on anything recent
[07:32] <Balsaque> cause my dell is 400mgz with ubuntu
[07:32] <Balsaque> 8.10
[07:32] <techie> yeah, but it probably has some form of graphics card
[07:32] <techie> 'this thing has a measly 8mb card
[07:33] <Balsaque> ypu a realllly old one    ati xpert 98d 8mb 3d 2x agp
[07:34] <Balsaque> same 8mb as yours?
[07:34] <Balsaque> so we have the same 400 and same 8mb
[07:38] <Techie-LAPTOP> im on my desktop now
[07:38] <Balsaque> i wonder if i can stuff a bigger graphic in my dell
[07:38] <Techie-LAPTOP> bugger, i just realised im outta cd's that blows that plan out the window
[07:38] <Techie-LAPTOP> if its standard agp then yes
[07:38] <Balsaque> maybe a lil 128
[07:39] <Balsaque> i ahve my original invoice in front of me and the books
[07:39] <Techie-LAPTOP> okay, brb gonna try Xubuntu 7.10
[07:39] <Balsaque> k
[07:42] <Techie-LAPTOP> taht disc didnt work
[07:45] <Techie-LAPTOP> im booting into windows
[09:02] <wormsxulla_> hello
[09:02] <wormsxulla_> http://imgh.us/opera_menu_scrolling.jpg
[09:04] <wormsxulla_> i have this little problem with my two opera installations. their menu style is different, in opera 10, i need to click on each item to select it, and the mouse doesn't hightlight items when i hover them. i haven't been able to discover how to change this
[09:05] <wormsxulla_> i also don't know how this is called, either in english or french, so it's hard to search on search engines :)
[09:16] <wormsxulla> was there an answer to my question, i got disconnected
[09:16] <wormsxulla> ?
[09:28] <Techie> i reckon im gonna have to re install ubuntu next month
[09:29] <Techie> and on top of that ill also have to track down a version of xubuntu for my laptop
[12:28] <_angelo_> hello folks, I'm using xubuntu 9.04, from last update X won't start, in gdm's log file there's a message about MTRR
[12:28] <_angelo_> anyone can help me?
[12:29] <_angelo_> I have searched launchpad and google about it but didnt help
[12:36] <sixnonep> Hi Guys how can I set up a network folder on Xubuntu??
[13:13] <TheSheep> !sshfs | sixnonep
[13:13] <TheSheep> sixnonep: or do you mean the windows variety?
[13:15] <sixnonep> Well, I'm using Gnome on one box and XCFE on a lower spec box. Gnome has a "network" folder under places in the GUI, was wondering if I can install that on Xbuntu.
[14:11] <henryfranz2005> hello
[16:14] <Xyrnaes> Bonjour!
[16:38] <mnemoc> hi, there is an "standard" file in /etc/modprobe.d/ for custom options?
[17:59] <_angelo_> hello! I'm using xubuntu 9.04, from last update xfce4 doesnt start, I see only a blue screen and a mouse pointer...I have searched launchpad but didnt help
[17:59] <_angelo_> anyone knows something about that?
[18:00] <_angelo_> I can provide more information if necessary
[18:01] <TheSheep> the race condition is back? :(
[18:14] <likemindead> Try this, _angelo_ : http://www.anujpathania.blogspot.com/2008/06/xubuntu-panels-disappear.html
[18:15] <_angelo_> likemindead, I will try - thanks
[18:18] <oxyz> hi there, can anyone help me?
[18:20] <TheSheep> unfortunately we ran out of batteries in our crystal ball, so we can't help you unless you tell us what's wrong
[18:20] <TheSheep> just ask a question, and if anybody knows, they will answer
[18:20] <_angelo_> likemindead, it doesnt help...I cant access terminal and no items (except mouse pointer) are present on my desktop
[18:21] <TheSheep> _angelo_: you can switch to text consoles with alt+ctrl+f1 (switch back with alt+ctr+f7) and see what's blocking it
[18:22] <TheSheep> _angelo_: with 'ps a' command you can display all the processes you have
[18:22] <oxyz> how do i update my graphics card and how i run games (window's games with wine)
[18:24] <likemindead> Big questions, oxyz.
[18:24] <likemindead> What's your graphics card?
[18:24] <oxyz> Ati Radeon 9200 Series
[18:25] <likemindead> Go to Restricted Drivers and install the ATI driver from there.
[18:25] <likemindead> But be warned, ATI doesn't support Linux well. :-\
[18:25] <oxyz> How do i go there? im new :s
[18:25] <likemindead> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[18:26] <Sysi> new ATI:s are actually quite linux-friendly
[18:26] <likemindead> Really? Nice!
[18:26] <likemindead> Also, oxyz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[18:27] <Sysi> with nvidia you are stuck with restricted driver
[18:28] <Sysi> even though it works well
[18:28] <oxyz> i got xubuntu, so i do must install the  ubuntu 8.04 hardy? Right? I'm new in linux world :)
[18:28] <TheSheep> no
[18:29] <TheSheep> there are a few differences, but most things are the same with xubuntu
[18:29] <TheSheep> that's why we use the same instructions
[18:29] <oxyz> so what do i do to update the graphic card?
[18:30] <oxyz> because the instruction says to go to System, but i do not have system :x
[18:31] <TheSheep> applications->system
[18:31] <oxyz> omg, im such a noob xD
[18:37] <mnemoc> hi, any hint about how to make Xubuntu show one desktop on each monitor (2 in my case) instead of half in one and half in the other?
[18:38] <TheSheep> !multihead
[18:39] <TheSheep> !xinerama | mnemoc
[18:39] <TheSheep> !dualhead | mnemoc
[18:40] <mnemoc> TheSheep: but isn't xinerama the half desktop in one monitor and half desktop on the other like i do have now?
[18:40] <Guest75442> hi will a core 2 duo 3.gig and 4 gig of ddr 2 ram run xubuntu nicely?
[18:40] <TheSheep> mnemoc: yes, you want the other one
[18:40] <TheSheep> mnemoc: I just didn't remember its tag
[18:40] <TheSheep> Guest75442: verily
[18:40] <mnemoc> TheSheep: ah, cool, thanks!
[18:42] <the_beav> anyone know how i can get my keyboard controls (volume mainly) to work in xfce?  as they do in gnome?
[18:43] <Guest75442> there is no back doors to this os is there like windows?
[18:44] <Guest75442> have i got complete privacy/freedom
[18:46] <Besogon> the_beav, Doesn't xfce4-keyboard-settings help?
[18:47] <TheSheep> Guest75442: there are no backdoors we know about, but there may be security bugs we don't yet know
[18:48] <TheSheep> Guest75442: that's why there are security updates
[18:48] <Guest75442> TheSheep: this is a lot more secure/stable than windows though?
[18:48] <the_beav> Besogon, yeah that appears to be it
[18:50] <wraag> Sorry to interrupt here, but I have a problem with my .Xmodmap not being implemented directly at startup. I have to manually go into terminal and type the command. How do I solve this?
[18:52] <the_beav> Besogon: got it working, thx....i knew it was something simple!
[18:52] <TheSheep> Guest75442: it's hard to tell, but you can compare http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21851/?task=statistics with http://secunia.com/advisories/product/22/?task=statistics
[18:53] <TheSheep> wraag: you can add the command to autostarted apps
[18:56] <likemindead> See http://whylinuxisbetter.net Guest75442. :)
[18:57] <mnemoc> xfce4-keyboard-settings crashes every time i unplug my usb keyboard :<
[18:57] <likemindead> Lamerz
[18:57] <mnemoc> thanks
[18:58] <TheSheep> likemindead: that's not nice
[18:58] <TheSheep> !bug | mnemoc
[18:58]  * likemindead rolls eyes...
[18:59] <balsaque> running 8.10, was on ebay, got a pop saying: " need to install either adobe flash player OR Swfdec gnome OR Gnash swf"...anyone here know which is best for an old dell with ubuntu 8.10? i installed none and i srill viewed ebay items?
[18:59] <wraag> TheSheep: Thx! Not easy migrating from win to linux.
[18:59] <TheSheep> wraag: fortunately you never want to go back
[18:59] <mnemoc> TheSheep: the problem is how to provide useful information to help them to fix the bug :)
[18:59] <likemindead> I thought it was, wraag.
[18:59] <likemindead> But I'm simple.
[19:00] <TheSheep> mnemoc: I think there is some basic info behind that link, they wil lask for any specific info as needed
[19:00] <mnemoc> deal :)
[19:00] <likemindead> Firefox, OpenOffice, Xchat, VLC, & Rhythmbox is all I need. :D
[19:04] <TheSheep> likemindead: why not Chromium, Abiword, Irssi, VLC and Quod Libet? :)
[19:07] <mnemoc> there is any pps/ppt viewer in the abiword/gnumeric world yet?
[19:08] <TheSheep> mnemoc: ah, no, just pdfs
[19:08] <Guest75442> well ive made my mind up im switching lol
[19:08] <TheSheep> mnemoc: latex-beamer ftw :)
[19:08] <TheSheep> Guest75442: be aware that there are few games
[19:09] <TheSheep> Guest75442: and not all will work fine under wine
[19:09] <Guest75442> TheSheep: i quit gaming a while back now , to dedicate time to programming
[19:09] <mnemoc> TheSheep: i don't make pps/ppt files, but people expect us to be able to see them
[19:09] <Guest75442> but i didnt know quake 4 was for linux tho :)
[19:09] <TheSheep> ah, for programming linux is very nice, once you get rid of the IDEs :)
[19:09] <mnemoc> specially marketing people and project managers :/
[19:10] <TheSheep> mnemoc: that sucks, can you slip some poison into their coffee?
[19:10] <mnemoc> =)
[19:11] <TheSheep> but what I mean, if you don't need ppt or other extra features, abiword is much faster
[19:12] <likemindead> Actually, TheSheep, I use Swiftfox, to be exact. ;)
[19:12] <likemindead> Is Chromium stable enough to use?
[19:12] <mnemoc> absolutely
[19:13] <mnemoc> it even runs flash by default in 32 and 64b now
[19:13] <likemindead> Rrrrreeeeeaaallllyyy...
[19:13]  * likemindead is installing Chromium post haste.
[19:13] <likemindead> Are you using a PPA?
[19:13] <TheSheep> it still crashes about once every 2 weeks for me
[19:13] <TheSheep> but saves all the open tabs, so it's not that bad
[19:14] <likemindead> Install via a PPA?
[19:14] <TheSheep> yes
[19:14] <likemindead> W00T
[19:14] <mnemoc> mine gets updated from http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/
[19:15] <likemindead> Also, Abiword is abysmal. :-\
[19:15] <TheSheep> there are two versions, google-chrome and chromium-browser
[19:15] <TheSheep> one is made by google, the other is made by community
[19:59] <Ashhh> I have a question
[19:59] <Ashhh> I have a .sh file
[19:59] <Ashhh> that runs fine when executed from terminal window
[19:59] <Ashhh> is there a way I can make it so it runs when I double clikc on it
[19:59] <Ashhh> I tried creating a launcher on desktop
[20:00] <Ashhh> that says "bash ~/Desktop/script.sh"
[20:00] <Ashhh> and checked the run in terminal checkbox
[20:00] <Ashhh> but it doesn't work, when I double click on it, terminal window opens and closes really fast
[20:00] <Ashhh> and I don't see the stuff that script's stupposed to do
[20:09] <likemindead> Can you right-click the file and "make executable" ?
[20:11] <Ashhh> nopes
[20:11] <Ashhh> but it does say "Execute" as the first option
[20:11] <Ashhh> and when I execute the .sh file
[20:11] <Ashhh> nothing happens
[20:11] <Ashhh> when I execute the launcher I made
[20:12] <Ashhh> it opens a terminal window and it goes away real fast
[20:12] <likemindead> Hmm...
[20:12] <knome> are you sure the script should wait for input?
[20:14] <Ashhh> um
[20:14] <Ashhh> "wait for input"???
[20:14] <Ashhh> what's that mean
[20:14] <knome> i mean, if the script is run, the terminal window will close.
[20:14] <Ashhh> oh
[20:14] <Ashhh> yeah
[20:14] <Ashhh> if I run it in terminal
[20:14] <Ashhh> it asks for input
[20:15] <Ashhh> and makes a folder
[20:15] <Ashhh> and other stuff
[20:15] <Ashhh> but if I run it using the launcher
[20:15] <Ashhh> it doesn't do any of those
[20:15] <Ashhh> here's it
[20:15] <Ashhh> http://pastebin.com/d6f0f9552
[20:15] <Ashhh> I'm a noob
[20:16] <Ashhh> so don't yell at me
[20:16] <knome> Ashhh, what are you trying to achieve?
[20:17] <Ashhh> it asks for username
[20:17] <Ashhh> and then mounts that user's folder on a different computer
[20:19] <knome> okay..
[20:20] <Myrtti> ohai :-P
[20:20] <Techie> haii everyone
[20:20] <Ashhh> then I have another one
[20:20] <knome> hello Myrtti
[20:20] <Ashhh> which unmounts the folder using fusermount -u ~/Desktop/Files and deleted the Files folder
[20:22] <Techie> knome- had any experience with open source ATI drivers?
[20:23] <knome> Techie, not really
[20:23] <Ashhh> so anyone can help me??
[20:23] <Techie> what do you need help with Ashhh ?
[20:24] <Ashhh> (3:14:50 PM) Ashhh: if I run it in terminal  it asks for input  and makes a folder  and other stuff  but if I run it using the launcher  it doesn't do any of those.  here's it http://pastebin.com/d6f0f9552  I'm a noob so don't yell at me
[20:26] <Ashhh> whenusing launcher, it opens the terminal window but it closes real fast and doesn't do any of the things
[20:26] <Ashhh> even if I right click on the .sh file, and click on execute, it doesn't even open the terminal window.
[20:27] <Techie> i cnat think of why it would be acting differently between terminal and a launcher
[20:27] <Ashhh> :(
[20:28] <Techie> sorry man
[20:28] <Ashhh> it's cool
[20:28] <Ashhh> Ima ask on ubuntu channel
[20:28] <Ashhh> :)
[20:28]  * Ashhh hugs Techie.
[20:29] <Techie> hey knome can you do something for me?
[20:29] <knome> Techie, you can always ask... :)
[20:30] <Techie> chuck this link back to me after ive booted into buntu
[20:30] <Techie> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2008-July/073798.html
[20:30] <Techie> ill brb
[20:33] <techie> knome, that link please
[20:34] <knome> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2008-July/073798.html
[20:34] <knome> :P
[20:34] <techie> thanks
[20:43] <techie> now comes the tricky part, attempting to set up the opensource ati drivers
[20:43] <knome> ;)
[22:04] <the_beav> installed 64bit, I keeep my /home on a seperate partition, so all my settings were preserved...however, i can no longer change desktops with mouse wheel <i don't use compiz, or any sort of compositor>
[22:48] <boscop> hi. I'm running xfce on ubuntu. after booting, I have no panels, I have to start them manually. why?
[22:50] <_angelo_> hello boscop, I have a quite similar problem
[22:50] <boscop> ah
[22:50] <_angelo_> after an update, I can login but virtual desktop shows only a blue screen and a pointer
[22:50] <boscop> even after another restart?
[22:51] <_angelo_> boscop, no...
[22:51] <_angelo_> what's your version of os?
[22:51] <boscop> jaunty
[22:53] <_angelo_> same version, here
[22:57] <_angelo_> what's the workaround that do you use, boscop ?
[22:58] <boscop> _angelo_: I started the panels manually
[22:58] <boscop> do you have xfce, too?
[22:59] <boscop> do you have access to a shell?
[22:59] <_angelo_> boscop, yes
[22:59] <_angelo_> I can access a tty terminal
[23:00] <boscop> then you can start all the necessary processes
[23:01] <_angelo_> what are all processes that do I need to launch?
[23:01] <boscop> I would try all that start with xfce and seem important
[23:01] <boscop> like xfce-panel
[23:02] <boscop> err, xfce4-panel
[23:04] <_angelo_> what's the process that controls icons?
[23:04] <_angelo_> and desktop background...
[23:06] <boscop> if you type "xfce" in the shell and press TAB twice you should see all programs that begin with "xfce"
[23:08] <boscop> is xfdesktop running?
[23:16] <_angelo_> thanks, boscop
[23:16] <_angelo_> :)
[23:16] <boscop> what was the cause?
[23:16] <_angelo_> I dont know, really
[23:17] <boscop> just in case I face this problem in the future :)
[23:17] <_angelo_> no errors in log files
[23:17] <_angelo_> I'm backing up ~/.config/xfce4 dir
[23:21] <_angelo_> bye


[07:16] <ubotu> n2diy called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:14] <mneptok> calling out, in transit. calling out, in transit.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> hiya mneptok!
[08:16] <mneptok> ARR!
[09:01] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:03] <mneptok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWF-hH1nloo
[09:06] <Gary> mneptok, are you jealous of that tashe?
[09:08] <mneptok> Gary: hell no. i have like 12 on my back.
[09:09] <Gary> ooo, gorilla man, woo
[09:13] <mneptok> i usually get "baboon," but i'll take gorilla.
[09:52] <dgjones> Hi, can I point out a correction to one of ubotu's factiods? when a !xxx is entered in #ubuntu, if ubotu doesn't recognise the request, its referring users to http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi which brings up page not found, is was advised to use http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi instead, but maybe sombody could update the factoid for the change to help other users, thanks
[09:52] <Hobbsee> dgjones: it's not a factoid, so Seveas will have to fix that
[09:53] <dgjones> Hobbsee, ok, i thought it might have been, just thought to bring it somebodys attention so it could be passed on to him
[09:57] <Hobbsee> no idea
[10:26] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:29] <Mez> anyone? ping?
[10:30] <Hobbsee> Mez: pong
[10:30] <Myrtti> huh?
[10:30] <Mez> meh, my lag is off the scale right now
[10:30] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:30] <Hobbsee> poor Mez
[11:14] <Hobbsee> mneptok: oy, you here?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> !ping
[03:01] <ubotu> host not found
[04:24] <nalioth> hm, happy birthday to me
[04:24] <nalioth> no, it's not my birthday, but somebody gave me a gift anyway
[04:25] <elkbuntu> hehe
[04:25] <elkbuntu> what is that gift?
[04:28] <nalioth> elkbuntu: a dozen bot IPs to kline
[04:28] <elkbuntu> LOL
[04:29] <Pici> !opsnack
[04:29] <ubotu> Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[04:29] <Hobbsee> woo!
[04:30] <Hobbsee> wha?
[04:30] <elkbuntu> hehe
[04:30] <Hobbsee> oh, -marketing?
[04:51] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:53] <Pici> a fitting nick for that user...
[04:53] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:54] <Hobbsee> hmmm, hasnt actually responded yet
[04:56] <Hobbsee> Pici: watch for when that guy actually starts talking, unmute at your leisure
[04:57] <Hobbsee> unquieted
[04:57] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:58] <Pici> I just did a /bans and it probably slid off the screen
[06:15] <neverblue> someone suggested I update the 'top 20' questions, in the ubuntu documentation, how do I go about doing it, since its a wiki?
[06:16] <Pici> neverblue: Sign up for a wiki account, login, and press edit on that page.
[06:16] <neverblue> ah
[06:16] <neverblue> i hope to receive some input from you pici :)
[06:32] <Pici> Whats the -ops consensus on the ubuntuguide.  I remember seeing some disparaging remarks about it.
[06:32] <Myrtti> I've not looked at it in years
[06:32] <Myrtti> I thought the wiki is the supported method of help and documentation
[06:33] <nalioth> Pici: the old ubuntuguide would kill your box
[06:33] <nalioth> Pici: but since the university has taken it over, it is fine
[07:23] <Seveas> !staff
[07:23] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[07:24] <Seveas> join flood in #ubuntu
[07:24] <Seveas> !ops
[07:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:24] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[07:24] <jrib> Seveas: you're fast
[07:24] <Seveas> they're now in -unregged
[07:24] <Myrtti> wha
[07:25] <jrib> they don't seem to be registered, -i maybe?
[08:06] <jenda> omg
[08:06] <nalioth> omg what?
[08:12] <NoelCower> Something happen to #ubuntuforums? O_o
[08:13] <Gary> NoelCower, it's still there, whats up?
[08:13] <NoelCower> Tis forwarding to here.
[08:14] <nalioth> NoelCower: are you sure it's not forwarding _you_ here?
[08:14] <NoelCower> If it is, then I would have to ask why?
[08:15] <nalioth> most likely, NoelCower
[08:21] <Pici> I think you need to talk to jenda about that, if you havent already
[08:21] <NoelCower> I haven't been told anything, so I'm afraid I'm completely in the dark on this.
[09:16] <Seveas> just because it's fun :)
[09:19] <mc44> Bad hulk. No biscuit
[09:20] <Pici> No buscuits? But that might make him angry...
[09:34] <ubotu> In ubotu, mannytu said: * mannytu is sleeping
[09:35] <pleia2> FYI - aoirthoir39 evaded my ban in #ubuntu-pennsylvania
[09:35] <Myrtti> aoirthoir again?!
[09:35] <nalioth> pleia2: so institute a sneakier ban  :)
[09:35] <jenda> nalioth: I banforwarded you here, because of an unacceptable part message
[09:35] <pleia2> nalioth: already done :)
[09:35] <jenda> erm
[09:36] <jenda> NoelCower ^
[09:36] <nalioth> jenda: you did?
[09:36] <jenda> nalioth: not you, silly ;)
[09:36] <mc44> Has nalioth ever parted? :)
[09:36] <pleia2> Myrtti: yeah, I think he delights in tormenting me
[09:38] <pleia2> now come the PMs, telling me I'm not being very humane
[09:42] <pleia2> gosh I hate this guy o_o
[09:55] <ubotu> In ubotu, mannytu said: !foo is foo
[10:35] <ubotu> tokj called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:35] <ubotu> Ginseu called the ops in #ubuntu
 nalioth: I banforwarded you here, because of an unacceptable part message  <- Ah
[11:00] <NoelCower> Do I get to be un-banforwarded?
[11:03] <ompaul> NoelCower, (A) commit to changing your quit message, and (B) making sure you don't come to ops attention again now that you have been "red flagged"
[11:03] <NoelCower> Cool, I get a flag
[11:04] <NoelCower> As for the message, already changed.
[11:04] <ompaul> NoelCower, but you need to take it up with the op who banned you
[11:04] <ompaul> guess you got to wait for that
[11:04] <NoelCower> No rush.
[11:06] <PriceChild> Hmm #ubuntuforums?
[11:08] <NoelCower> Indeed.
[11:12] <jenda> here
[11:13] <jenda> NoelCower: hmm
[11:13] <jenda> changed, you say.. ;)
[11:13] <jenda> I'm on it.
[11:13] <jenda> Please don't do it again :)
[11:13] <NoelCower> Yeah, one of those things I tend to set and forget
[11:13] <NoelCower> Tis now simply "Bleep"
[11:14] <NoelCower> Thanks
[12:02] <atoponce> nalioth: Seveas: Seveaz: ping
[12:02] <atoponce> alindeman: or rob: would work too, i guess


[11:20] <scriptwarlock> hmm too silent
[11:22] <ailo-w> Could be a good thing. Could mean nobody is having any problems with their US installations!
[11:23] <scriptwarlock> so true or no one uses?> lol
[11:23] <ailo-w> Or, it's just Monday
[11:23] <scriptwarlock> well i'm one of the lucky beta user that has no quirks so far
[11:26] <scriptwarlock> oh i have one recently that was jackd and jackdbus running both
[14:32] <FloatingGoat> i quite like ubuntu studio, i must say. ive been using it as my main OS in place of a default 12.04 and it has been a pleasant transition so far. a joy to use. great job ubuntu studio team.
[14:33] <smartboyhw> FloatingGoat, thanks:)
[14:36] <FloatingGoat> one thing i would to have like to have seen was lmms by default.
[14:37] <FloatingGoat> its no big deal but.
[14:37] <smartboyhw> FloatingGoat, you mean put it in the ISO?
[14:42] <FloatingGoat> yeah and make it launchable with the menu, maybe even with vst support included?
[15:02] <FloatingGoat> smartboyhw: what do you think?
[15:02] <smartboyhw> FloatingGoat, err ask ailo_ or len-dt for that:P
[15:04] <ailo_> I don't know why it is not included. We might need to think about a more structured way of making those decisions. There is a goal to keep Ubuntu Studio more directed towards the newcomer, so I guess in that respect, LMMS is a good choice for default installations.
[15:05] <smartboyhw> ailo_, so maybe we can just make it into the seeds right?
[15:07] <ailo_> smartboyhw: If you like, have a look at what it depends on, and how much added size it would give
[15:07] <smartboyhw> ailo_, 10.5 MB
[15:07] <smartboyhw> 6 packages in total
[15:08] <smartboyhw> librtaudio4, librtmidi1, libstk0c2a, lmms-common, stk along with main package lmms
[15:08] <ailo_> I guess you are on a fresh install?
[15:09] <ailo_> I'm moving conversation to -devel
[15:09] <FloatingGoat> me?
[15:11] <FloatingGoat> wow this is awesome..
[15:14] <FloatingGoat> i ask a question give a suggestion and you guys are alreadt discussong whetger or not it should be implemented.
[15:15] <FloatingGoat> sorry phone keyboard
[15:15] <smartboyhw> yes
[15:15] <ailo_> FloatingGoat: It's a small team. Not a lot of bureaucracy
[15:41] <FloatingGoat> you know what would also be nice. just to have that nifty little sound recorder that comes default with ubuntu. i usually use that with the pulseaudio jack connector for mostof my recordings.
[15:42] <holstein> FloatingGoat: its in the repos...
[16:49] <FloatingGoat> but its cool i could just install it i think.
[16:49] <FloatingGoat> i got a question though.
[16:50] <holstein> FloatingGoat: its in the repos.. you can just install it for sure
[16:50] <FloatingGoat> with jack time machine, i cant seem to finnd the settings dialogue when in ubuntu studio
[16:52] <holstein> FloatingGoat: for what settings?
[17:13] <FloatingGoat> the settings so i can do things like.
[17:13] <FloatingGoat> start recording when an input threshhold is met.
[17:14] <FloatingGoat> change the file output format/destination
[17:14] <holstein> FloatingGoat: settings for? jack time machine?
[17:15] <FloatingGoat> yeah
[17:18] <FloatingGoat> holstein
[17:20] <holstein> FloatingGoat: ive never used it... you are expecting something in the menu?.. maybe ask in #opensourcemusicians
[17:31] <FloatingGoat> ive changed the settongs bedore.. a while back..
[17:33] <holstein> FloatingGoat: sure.. i just dont know what settings you are talking about, since i dont use the application
[17:34] <FloatingGoat> nbd
[17:37] <holstein> FloatingGoat: ?
[17:37] <holstein> im installing "timemachine".. tell me what you expect to find, and i'll look for it
[17:38] <FloatingGoat> i meant no big deal.
[17:39] <FloatingGoat> and i expect a settings dialogue
[17:39] <FloatingGoat> of some sort
[17:39] <holstein> timemachine -h has options
[17:40] <holstein> FloatingGoat: ive only ever launched it back in 10.04.. never saw a dialogue
[19:48] <FloatingGoat> well that help. thanks


[16:03] <dzho> Scary_Guy: https://www.theregister.com/2001/04/12/missing_novell_server_discovered_after/ this?


 It seems like my fan isn't spinning at all, how can I control it?
[04:35] <Unit193> !fan
[04:35] <ubot2> fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[04:36] <Unit193> Nevermind, that's broken. :P
[04:40] <Apocalyptikz> That URL doesn't load.
[04:40] <Apocalyptikz> Tried it on both my systems, btw.
[04:40] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto  or   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737 would be better, but not sure they'd help.
[04:40] <Unit193> Mine seems to be working in that area.
[09:20] <isiah> morning all
[12:55] <Guest75506> hi
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> Guest75506, Good mornin'.
[14:43] <raubvogel> preceeding question: can I specify how I want the partitions done?
[14:44] <holstein> raubvogel: sure.. you can do literally anything you like.. i would get the alternate iso for that personally, but you can prepare the disk with whatever tool you are comfortable with, and install linux however you like, even "sub-optimally"
[14:50] <raubvogel> holstein: all I want is to do disk alignment when creating the partitions
[14:51] <holstein> raubvogel: you can do literally anything you like.. im not sure what you mean by "alignment", but custom partitioning is no issue
[14:53] <raubvogel> holstein: so, something like this "mkfs.ext2 -L boot -b 4096 -Estride=32,stripe-width=224,discard /dev/sda1" would be doable?
[14:54] <holstein> raubvogel: without refering to manpages for mkfs.ext2 commands... as i said, *anything* is doable.. its all open, and you are free and encouraged to do what you like.. even if its a bad idea
[14:55] <raubvogel> holstein: you just reminded me of a Futurama song
[14:55] <holstein> raubvogel: i typically just use gparted... or the alternate installer i suggested
[14:55] <raubvogel> holstein: good. How would I pass those arguments?
[14:56] <holstein> !info fstab
[14:56] <holstein> !fstab
[14:56] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab is where i would look
[14:57] <holstein> though, if i didnt know where to put those commands, i likely wouldnt use them.. if you found something do "copy and paste" in from a post somewhere
[14:57] <holstein> maybe start with what your intention is generally, and see if anyone has a suggestion on how to achieve your goal
[19:05] <nothingspecial> hi vinnie__ :p
[19:05] <vinnie__> how ya! your here too! good stuff!
[19:06] <nothingspecial> I am in lots of channels
[19:12] <Sidewinder> nothingspecial, Is everywhere. :)
[19:14] <nothingspecial> :D
[19:15] <aeoril-mob> But is he everwhere you want to be?
[19:17] <aeoril-mob> Be all you can be - eat lots of fast food and drink sugary pop
[19:18] <nothingspecial> not a long term solution
[19:19] <aeoril-mob> No, but its easier than joining the army ....
[19:19] <nothingspecial> +1
[19:19] <aeoril-mob> Hahaha ... :D
[19:21] <aeoril-mob> Actually, more risky though
[19:21] <nothingspecial> +1
[19:21] <aeoril-mob> Hehe
[19:21] <vinnie__> and you may end up in boot camp anyway
[19:26] <aeoril-mob> vinnie__:  how so?
[19:26] <nothingspecial> that fitness  thing ex army people do I assume
[19:26] <aeoril-mob> Oh, yah - like fat camp
[19:27] <vinnie__> exactly all the rage in my neck of the woods!
[19:27] <aeoril-mob> Hmmm they have reality shows about that
[19:28] <vinnie__> see you's later..
[21:33] <gaurav12>  hey can anybody pl help me in bringing back my ubuntu 12.04 back to default settings.i have installed a few softwares and now i want it to come to defalut settings like a fresh installation
[23:59] <rebuhjc> Hello, Can someone help


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[08:41] <Masood1> does any1 knows how to install drivers for intel g33 on ubuntu
[11:38] <ahe> i'm using evolution since feisty on the same box (always upgraded to the next version)
[11:39] <ahe> now i'm using jaunty since beta and this morning eclipse locks up on start
[11:39] <ahe> the main window appears but it gets grey and it never recovers
[11:40] <ahe> i already moved my .eclipse directory to a backup location but this doesn't change anything
[11:41] <ahe> when i start eclipse with strace gnome locks up and i have to go to the console and "killall -9 strace" to get my x session respond again
[11:42] <ahe> is there anything apart from moving my .evolution directory (gconf???) that i can do to get my evolution install working again?
[11:42] <ahe> anything apart from the strace output i can attach to my bug report?
[12:02] <mnemo> ahe: can you gdb into strace and take a stak snapshot please?
[12:15] <ahe> mnemo: yes i could but strace doesn't freeze my xsession anymore
[12:21] <ahe> i just submitted the problem as bug #371186
[12:22] <ahe> feel free to ask me for more information
[12:23] <ahe> i will not try to work around it until there is a fix so i can provide you with further information
[12:28] <asac> ahe: you talk bout evolution ... but then you talk about .eclipse ;)?
[12:41] <ahe> asac: yeah i see
[12:41] <ahe> but it's evolution
[12:42] <ahe> my mistake *doh*
[23:39] <YokoZar> Is there a point to the flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound package?  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[23:40] <YokoZar> or is this some cruft that should be removed from the archive?
[23:43] <pace_t_zulu> YokoZar: i was wondering the same thing a few days back