[06:21] <vwguy337> carpediem: now it says "off/any"
[06:21] <amphi> spazzz: no idea about joysticks at all
[06:22] <rewt__> you have to add it to a file....
[06:22] <zulfiqar_> farous : i have a port replicator and samsung monitor .. i get the same resolution on my external monitor as my latops screen ... how can i configure it to get higher resolution?
[06:22] <rewt__> I had to do it for my sound too
[06:22] <rewt__> but i dont remember the file
[06:22] <carpediem> vwguy337: when I said myEssid, you need to put your own essid
[06:22] <rewt__> :-\
[06:22] <zulfiqar_> farous, r u using a port replicator as well?
[06:22] <vwguy337> carpediem: i did...i put my essid in there
[06:22] <Mordof> K-rich, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PHP5Installation?highlight=%28PHP%29      that is php5... i dunno about 4. i know 4 has a different directory structure so im not sure, sorry
[06:22] <rewt__> brb
[06:22] <farous> zulfiqar_: what card do you have and what driver
[06:22] <carpediem> vwguy337: and it doesn't say yours, eh?  hmmm
[06:23] <vwguy337> carpediem: exactly
[06:23] <zulfiqar_> farous, its a ATI radeon .. default driver!
[06:23] <farous> zulfiqar_: and nice nick :) where from friend
[06:23] <rewt_> k
[06:23] <Mosi> someone help! i  blew up yaboot! >_<
[06:23] <zulfiqar_> farous, oh I'm from Dubai , thanks!
[06:23] <farous> zulfiqar_: thought you are from the gulf
[06:23] <rewt_> carpediem, Back. :-P
[06:23] <carpediem> vwguy337: no wep/wpa set on the router?
[06:23] <zulfiqar_> farous, u r right!
[06:23] <carpediem> rewt_: but you are now running without the external right?
[06:24] <amphi> Mosi: heh
[06:24] <farous> zulfiqar_: ok wait will give you a howto. am from egypt myself
[06:24] <spazzz> amphi: Alright thanks.  I don't think its permissions though.  I can use the BUTTONS on the controler under a standard account just not any of the AXIS parts.
[06:24] <K-rich> Mordof, yes please i have two more systems to set up and don't want the same issues
[06:24] <rewt_> carpediem, yes i am but i dont want to have to reconfigre it everytime i boot my machine
[06:24] <carpediem> rewt_: I know, but we've made good progress then
[06:24] <Mordof> K-rich, do you need to use php4?
[06:24] <zulfiqar_> farous, thanx .. do you use a port replicator as well?
[06:24] <vwguy337> carpediem: open access point connected to a 4 port router connected to my cable modem
[06:24] <Mordof> K-rich, or can you use 5
[06:24] <rewt_> carpediem, and if I push my wireless button to turn off the wireless and push it again to turn it back on, it doesnt work, I have to manually reactivate and reconfigure it
[06:25] <carpediem> rewt_: sounds like something hotplug is supposed to be managing.  Is hotplug running?
[06:25] <amphi> zulfiqar_: what problem do you have with the port replicator?
[06:25] <rewt_> not sure?
[06:25] <adub> this is commmpletely bonkers
[06:25] <adub> i didnt do anything to this drive and it just quits working
[06:26] <amphi> zulfiqar_: you might find info at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[06:26] <carpediem> rewt_: sec
[06:26] <rewt_> ?
[06:26] <zulfiqar_> amphi, my external monitor is attched to the port replicator and unbutu takes the native 1024X768 resilution and doesnot let me incres it when i use external monitor
[06:26] <farous> zulfiqar_: nope i just attach the external monitor to the monitor plug in my note book, and here is the howto
[06:26] <Mosi> amphi: you know anything about yaboot?
[06:26] <K-rich> I need php4
[06:26] <farous> hmm i can not paset to the Eterm :(
[06:26] <carpediem> vwguy337: hmm, I'm running out of ideas to try.  Its very weird that you can connect to another essid, but not your own
[06:26] <amphi> Mosi: I installed debian on an ibook once, that's about it
[06:26] <heliotrope> _jason, is this not free?
[06:27] <vwguy337> carpediem: im not even sure it's connected to the other one
[06:27] <heliotrope> _jason, when i changed it to multiverse it said 'non-free'
[06:27] <carpediem> rewt_: sec = second, as in "just a sec"
[06:27] <amphi> zulfiqar_: I think you need xorg.conf magic to differentiate the screens
[06:27] <rewt_> carpediem, oh okay
[06:27] <rewt_> carpediem, im trying to find that file to edit >.<
[06:27] <zulfiqar_> amphi, thats the point i donto know how to!
[06:27] <zulfiqar_> farous, thanks lemme see if i can find my solution there
[06:28] <amphi> zulfiqar_: nor I - that url might have info on it, else try tldp.org
[06:28] <farous> zulfiqar_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
[06:28] <rewt_> anyone know how to add a modto startup...like which file it is to edit?
[06:28] <carpediem> rewt_: got it.  edit /etc/modules
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> farous: Whoa.  I need to spend more time on the ThinkWiki site.  There's all kinds of stuff there!
[06:29] <farous> yap
[06:29] <carpediem> rewt_: but that's not going to fix the button problem
[06:29] <_jason> heliotrope: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html, it's not free as in speech
[06:29] <farous> :)
[06:29] <rewt_> just add ndiswrapper to it?
[06:29] <new_> hello i am new to ubuntu..i am stock in a 640x480 ..  can cange with xorgconfig...?
[06:29] <_jason> heliotrope: more specifically, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[06:29] <carpediem> rewt_: yep, as a separate line
[06:30] <farous> zulfiqar_: gladly this one is for the port replicators too
[06:30] <heliotrope> _jason, oh so it's not talking money
[06:30] <navyn> hey guys i got an ATI Radeon 9250, and this is the output of the glxgears benchmark, 2948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 589.500 FPS
[06:30] <navyn> , is this good or bad?
[06:31] <carpediem> new_: have you tried changing resolutions in gnome? does it allow any others?
[06:31] <_jason> heliotrope: nope, that would be ``free as in beer'' :)
[06:31] <heliotrope> _jason, rofl
[06:31] <rewt_> carpediem, okay that's all saved up and ready to go.
[06:31] <rewt_> carpediem, now for the button problem.
[06:31] <heliotrope> _jason, and i should do this to all updates titled (Universe)?
[06:32] <zulfiqar_> amphi, r u suing an external monitor as well?
[06:32] <Mordof> grrr, i cant get my video working properly :S
[06:32] <_jason> heliotrope: yes, to get multiverse
[06:32] <carpediem> rewt_: no idea about the button.  I have never had a laptop with internal wireless.  Sorry.
[06:32] <heliotrope> _jason, looks like i've got some work to do! haha
[06:32] <Mordof> would i need to reinstall my libdvdcss and all my mpeg and divx codecs n stuff after i install my drivers?
[06:32] <navyn> i have not done any of the ATI instructions from the forums, this is off the standard install
[06:32] <Madpilot> Mordof: I don't think so
[06:32] <_jason> heliotrope: ha, I think it should only be 4
[06:32] <carpediem> rewt_: If you want to send me a laptop with internal wireless, I'd be happy to give it a whirl. ;)
[06:33] <Mordof> Madpilot, k
[06:33] <rewt_> anyone running internal wireless here?
[06:33] <Mordof> K-rich, your solution awaits:   http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_PHP_for_Apache_HTTP_Server
[06:33] <K-rich> Nope
[06:33] <mebaran151> I need to get my nforce nic running
[06:33] <mebaran151> it seems as though it should be supported hardware
[06:33] <zulfiqar_> farous, r u using an external monitor as well?
[06:33] <farous> zulfiqar_: only for presentation purposes
[06:33] <farous> i use it in the dual head mode for that
[06:33] <heliotrope> _jason, dang you're good, it looked like an intimidating list at first
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: Yes, Intel Pro 2915 a/b/g, worked out of the box.
[06:34] <amphi> zulfiqar_: no, never tried it
[06:34] <new_> man i need some help...!!!! how i change my screen rezolution?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> !fixres
[06:34] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:35] <rewt_> tonyyarusso, im using nsidwrapper or whatever it is....but if i push my wireless button when it's going I have to manually turn on the mod again and reactivate the card manually....if I push the button to turn it back on nothing happens?
[06:35] <farous> zulfiqar_: but there are many modes dual head, extended desktop and clone mode
[06:35] <rewt_> any idea?
[06:35] <carpediem> rewt_:  you might find something in the forums.
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: You might be able to find the script being run by the button event and add some modprobe lines, but I don't know the exact details.
[06:35] <navyn> is 2948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 589.500 FPS for my ATI card good do you think, or should I follow the instructions in the forums?
[06:36] <amphi> navyn: that's a bit less than I get here with a Radeon Mobility 7500
[06:36] <amphi> navyn: 3221 frames in 5.0 seconds = 643.983 FPS
[06:36] <DUMAiSO> amphi, how do I use a benchmark in ubuntu?
[06:36] <farous> navyn: what card and how much mem
[06:36] <zulfiqar_> farous, how do u change resolutions then on the external monitor?
[06:36] <amphi> DUMAiSO: a benchmark?
[06:36] <K-rich> -mordof: can you tell of how to fix the php4 issue.?
[06:36] <navyn> ATI Radeon 9250 with 256 MB DDR
[06:37] <DUMAiSO> amphi, to check fps rate
[06:37] <amphi> DUMAiSO: glxgears
[06:37] <farous> zulfiqar_: you do it in the display section
[06:37] <Mordof> K-rich, ive never installed php4 on ubuntu, only in windows...
[06:37] <farous> navyn: ok typg fglrxinfo
[06:37] <zulfiqar_> can i see your xorg.conf?
[06:37] <farous> navyn: and tell me what you see
[06:37] <heliotrope> _jason, it's installing, thanks again
[06:37] <DUMAiSO> amphi, any special arguments?
[06:37] <amphi> navyn: I would have thought that card should be faster, it should be a good bit better than mine
[06:37] <_jason> heliotrope: np
[06:37] <farous> zulfiqar_: i am running the fglrx drivers this will not work with the open source one
[06:38] <farous> zulfiqar_: and for port replicator turned out you need an additional option i just sent you the site
[06:38] <Mordof> question: how do i set an application as the default to open a file?
[06:38] <mebaran151> what's a good pci nic
[06:38] <farous> zulfiqar_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
[06:38] <mebaran151> that's supported under Linux
[06:38] <mebaran151> my nforce is giving me so many problems
[06:38] <_jason> Mordof: right click > properties > open with
[06:38] <navyn> amphi, so do you think i should follow the ati guide in the forums?
[06:38] <mebaran151> I've decided to simply abandon it
[06:39] <Mordof> _jason, thanks
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> Mordof: Right-click a file of the type, Properties > Opens with, set it there.
[06:39] <DUMAiSO> amphi, it opens a windows with the gears, but gives me no results
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: realtek 8139 is cheap and well supported, intel pro/100 or pro/1000 are well supported and not so cheap; there are many others
[06:39] <farous> navyn: if you type fglrxinfo and see you have the ati card recog than all is well
[06:39] <rewt_> hmm im not finding anything on forums >.<
[06:39] <mebaran151> cheap is good
[06:39] <amphi> DUMAiSO: run it from an xterm
[06:39] <K-rich> Oh nm
[06:39] <Madpilot> mebaran151: there's a (small) wired nic section off here, have a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:39] <navyn> farous, even if my frame rates aren't that great?\
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: 8139 ones cost half-nothing ;)
[06:39] <mebaran151> amphi, but nforce is supposed to be supported
[06:39] <carpediem> rewt_: :(  Well, good luck, I hope you figure it out.  I'm off to bed.
[06:39] <farous> you have direct rendering check it with glxinfo
[06:39] <mebaran151> there's drivers and everything!
[06:39] <amphi> mebaran151: loads are supported
[06:39] <rewt_> carpediem,  thanks for all your help :)
[06:40] <mebaran151> but it won't dhcp
[06:40] <mebaran151> oh the life a vagabond
[06:40] <farous> if you have direct rendering i do not think anything more can be done
[06:40] <carpediem> rewt_: np.  Keep at it, and you'll figure it all out, I'm sure.
[06:40] <mebaran151> if I have my router running a dhcp server
[06:40] <amphi> mebaran151: I know nothing of nforce
[06:40] <navyn> farous, it says fglrxinfo not found
[06:40] <mebaran151> and I fake a static ip
[06:40] <sdghsgh> sorry, doesnt xorg look for drivers in /lib/modules/kernelver/drivers/video?
[06:40] <mebaran151> like putting this computer at <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:40] <mebaran151> will bad things happen?
[06:40] <amphi> navyn: you're running the xorg driver?
[06:40] <mebaran151> shoudl I put the static ip outside the range of the dhcp server
[06:40] <farous> navyn: did you install the latest xorg driver
[06:41] <farous> form ati
[06:41] <amphi> navyn: what does glxinfo say?
[06:41] <navyn> amphi, i just completed the standard install of the OS, I've done nothing else
[06:41] <farous> navyn: you are running the oss drivers and that is good frame rate for them
[06:41] <amphi> navyn: xorg then, presumably - have a look at glxinfo output
[06:41] <navyn> I ran glxgears and got this:  2948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 589.500 FPS
[06:41] <navyn> 2562 frames in 5.0 seconds = 512.388 FPS
[06:41] <ivaneeo> help me.
[06:41] <ivaneeo> help me.
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> !helpme
[06:41] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:42] <farous> navyn ok type in a terminl glxinfo |grep rendering
[06:42] <ivaneeo> my notebook is sony viao vgn-s46c/b.sata hd.
[06:43] <Mordof> yay! i solved the audio out of synch problem!
[06:43] <navyn> farous, direct rendering: yes
[06:43] <farous> navyn: if it says no you have the opensource drivers if yes you have the property one
[06:43] <amphi> Mordof: what was it?
[06:43] <ivaneeo> and report ata1 bug...
[06:43] <farous> navyn: you have hardware 3d accel enabaled than
[06:44] <Mordof> amphi, it was using straight x11 display to view it, but i set it to x11 opengl display, and i guess that makes it run faster.
[06:44] <ivaneeo> sata hd. report ata1 bug....
[06:44] <navyn> farous, so I'm good then?  I shouldn't mess with the HOW-TO: ATI fglrx driver 8.16.20 instructions?
[06:44] <_jason> Mordof: what did you do?
[06:44] <farous> hmm and you say you did not install the fglrx drivers. Are you running dapper
[06:44] <amphi> Mordof: try -vo xv with mplayer
[06:44] <Mordof> (mplayer)
[06:44] <bm> were keep the unbuntu the file conf for screen rezolution???
[06:44] <amphi> Mordof: if that works, do echo vo=xv >> ~/.mplayer/config
[06:44] <Mordof> k
[06:45] <Mosi> can someone running breezy do a ls /boot for me, and tell me if there's a generic symlink to initrd.img-<version> ?
[06:45] <Mordof> in this or in terminal
[06:45] <amphi> Mordof: xv is the best driver in my experience
[06:45] <amphi> Mordof: huh?
[06:45] <Mordof> x11 opengl works perfect for me..
[06:45] <ivaneeo> report ata1 bug... error.is sata controller's problem?
[06:45] <Mosi> as in the way /boot/vmlinux is linked to your preferred kernel image
[06:45] <Mordof> smooth, no audio lag
[06:45] <amphi> Mordof: try playing a movie with mplayer -vo xv whatever
[06:45] <vwguy337> crap...i have to get to bed...gotta be up in about 5 hours...  Nite all!
[06:46] <bm> Videomodes: "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[06:46] <bm> Videoram: 131072 kByte
[06:46] <Mordof> hmmm. xv does look kinda nice
[06:46] <vwguy337> quit
[06:46] <bm> and i am stock in 640
[06:46] <amphi> Mordof: if it works nicely, do 'echo vo=xv >> ~/.mplayer/config' without quotes in a terminal, and mplayer will always use the xv driver without you needing to specify it
[06:46] <Madpilot> !tell bm about fixres
[06:47] <chantiq> hi pakabar?
[06:47] <Mordof> amphi, x11 opengl multi-texture version works best for me
[06:48] <Mordof> but then that may be due to my vid card
[06:48] <Mosi> can someone running breezy do a very simple, quick check on something for me?
[06:48] <chantiq> hal;o?
[06:48] <amphi> Mordof: uhuh - well, you can put that in .mplayer/config
[06:48] <emma34> can someone help me install a canon printer in ubuntu , priter is connected to my print server ie it is a network printer
[06:48] <farous> Mordof: just curious what vedio card you have
[06:48] <mebaran151> static ip is my best idea yet!
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  thers several kinds of network printers.:P
[06:49] <newbuntie> mosii: why don't you just ask, then maybe someone will
[06:49] <brtjohns> hi just got my ubuntu 5.10 cd's sent install to a 533mhz with 128mb of ram , will that be ok?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> emma34,   some use samba, some use that directjet stuff.
[06:49] <eclair> brtjohns, yup
[06:49] <LangCom> Hello i'm from korea
[06:49] <brtjohns> ok
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  whats serving the printer?
[06:50] <brtjohns> is there naything i have to do, someone said i have to enable root or something on ubuntu
[06:50] <brtjohns> once installed
[06:50] <Mosi> newbuntie: i already did, no one responded. can you do it? i just need you to ls /boot and tell me if there's a symlink to /boot/initrd.img-<version-number> that has a generic name i can point to, so i don't ahve to guess the version number
[06:50] <emma34> it is canon i470d on a netgear print server
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  check the docs for the print server (or the web itnerface) -  the gnome-cups-config tool has a pull down menu for the different 'ways' the printer can be served up.
[06:52] <mebaran151> great
[06:52] <mebaran151> this is ridiculous
[06:52] <mebaran151> just when I was about to final to do a static ip
[06:52] <Mordof> farous, sorry, was watching a movie.. nvidia 6800 xt 128mb
[06:52] <mebaran151> it succeeds in DHCP'ing
[06:53] <mebaran151> one day I swear
[06:53] <timfrost> !enter
[06:53] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:53] <Mosi> can someone please quickly do 'ls  /boot' for me, and tell me if there is a symlink that points to your initrd.img?
[06:53] <farous> Mordof: no problem and you are running it on breezy or dapper
[06:53] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:53] <Mordof> farous, breezy
[06:53] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:53] <farous> cool
[06:53] <farous> leave you to your movie now :)
[06:53] <_jason> Mosi: no
[06:53] <newbuntie> mosi: sorry, I'm a newbie, how would I tell which one is a symlink? :)
[06:53] <DUMAiSO> How do I mount an ISO image?
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> newbuntie: probably file
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> DUMAiSO: man mount
[06:54] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:54] <Mordof> farous, it was eurotrip.. ive already seen it a couple times
[06:54] <Mordof> now! to test an actual dvd
[06:54] <emma34> dr willis , thanks I will dig through the docs , by the way how do bring up the gnome cup  config tool
[06:55] <Mosi> is anyone else in here running a PPC?
[06:55] <JustinLei> who can help me~~~....
[06:55] <JustinLei> hello every one.I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> emma34,  its in the settings menus somewhere.
[06:55] <farous> mordof nice enjoy it then :)
[06:56] <hatake_kakashi> Mosi: I know nalioth is but nalioth is afk
[06:56] <cappicard> hmm... this is annoying... I can't use domain\username with lufsmount's ftpfs
[06:57] <JustinLei> who can help me~~~....I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help me,thanks
[06:57] <Mosi> hatake_kak: thanks
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> Mosi: np
[06:58] <wahyu> halo
[06:58] <wahyu> ada orang indonesia enggak ?
[06:58] <Mordof> every time i try to watch my dvd movie, it just freezes black
[06:58] <hyphenated> wahyu: tidak
[06:58] <JustinLei> who can help me~~~....I have a sony vaio vgn-s46c,install ubuntu dapper edtion,SATA error,ahic drive not find,help
[06:58] <wahyu> lho situ orang mana ?
[06:59] <amphi> Mordof: try -vo xv ;)
[06:59] <mylo> JustinLei, SATA error, AFAIK you could turn off the SATA feature from the BIOS first and install it
[06:59] <Mordof> amphi, heh
[06:59] <Mordof> grr, mplayer wont close
[07:00] <amphi> Mordof: ctrl-c it in the xterm
[07:00] <_jason> Mordof: have you installed libdvdcss?
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: heh kill -9 `pidof mplayer`
[07:00] <Mordof> _jason, yes, libdvdcss2
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> or killall mplayer
[07:00] <Mordof> ohh, didnt know you could do pidof
[07:00] <JustinLei> sony BOIS can't change SATA feature,have not this item
[07:00] <_jason> you could just do pkill too
[07:01] <hyphenated> bah, all of you should just use fuser :-)
[07:01] <Christopher> how come my stellarium programs is shown in the "science" menu but when i click it, it doesnt load
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> Mordof: well now you know :)
[07:01] <rewt_> idont think my fan works as much as it should when im in linux?
[07:01] <JustinLei> mylo,sony BOIS can't change SATA feature,have not this item
[07:01] <amphi> Christopher: which program, BTW?
[07:01] <Christopher> Stellarium
[07:01] <JustinLei> mylo:sony BOIS can't change SATA feature,have not this item
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: you're not going to tell me that your fan is electronically controlled via acpi?
[07:02] <rewt_> what's acpi? :-P
[07:02] <amphi> rewt_: acpi -t should show you temp, if you're worried
[07:02] <Christopher> rewt_, i noticed that too.. but to me that is a good thing.. my laptop doesnt overheat as bad using linux as it did in windows
[07:02] <Mordof> JustinLei, what are you saying!?!?!?
[07:02] <Mordof> you what are saying! i dont understand
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: Advanced Configuratable(?) Power Interface
[07:03] <amphi> Mordof: he's saying the bios in his vaio has no option to fiddle with sata settings
[07:03] <alex2456> anyone here get xspim on breezy?
[07:03] <rewt_> Thermal l: ok, 55.0 degrees C
[07:03] <Mordof> amphi, ahh
[07:03] <rewt_> That normal?
[07:03] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: designed to prevent excessive power usage
[07:03] <amphi> rewt_: is the box idling?
[07:03] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: for cpu? depends, google around for answers
[07:03] <amphi> rewt_: it's not dangerous, anyway
[07:03] <JustinLei> Mordof:The computer has the following hardware as far as the hard disk is concerned:Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 80GB SATA HTS541080G9SA00   ICH6M (82801FBM) controller (rev.03).
[07:03] <Christopher> rewt_, mines at 48C
[07:03] <qbaler> anyone here who can help me resize my ntfs partition? (im getting a bad sector error)
[07:03] <Mordof> amphi, not very good at reading semi-broken english
[07:04] <amphi> rewt_: mine is 36C idling
[07:04] <rewt_> idling?
[07:04] <rewt_> im using it right now?
[07:04] <amphi> rewt_: doing bugger all
[07:04] <JustinLei> Mordof:ata1: called with no error (01)!
[07:04] <rewt_> im running a stream and gaim and xchat
[07:04] <Mordof> JustinLei, sounds like trouble
[07:04] <amphi> rewt_: that's not much load - what does top show the load being?
[07:04] <JustinLei> sound?why?
[07:05] <Mordof> hmm?
[07:05] <rewt_> amphi, top?
[07:05] <amphi> rewt_: yes, top - type that in an xterm
[07:05] <JustinLei> There are no drivers by intel or Sony for Linux?
[07:05] <rewt_> load average?
[07:05] <rewt_> 0.57
[07:05] <rewt_> 0.69
[07:06] <rewt_> 0.87 and raising
[07:06] <Mordof> JustinLei, no idea.. try wiki.ubuntu.com and search for a related topic, or search google
[07:06] <Mordof> amphi, my idle is 50C :P
[07:06] <JustinLei> Mordof:Thanks
[07:06] <mebaran151> in dapper
[07:06] <mebaran151> why has ifconfig been removed from the base
[07:06] <amphi> Mordof: heh; mine was ~42C but I 'undervolted' the cpu
[07:06] <mebaran151> I mean from the path
[07:07] <mebaran151> of the normal user that is
[07:07] <Mordof> amphi, isnt that a bit dangerous?
[07:07] <amphi> Mordof: if you lower the freq voltages too far, yeah, crash horribly ;)
[07:07] <navyn> hey how many kilobytes is 256 mb?
[07:07] <adriyel> 256,000
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> 1 :)
[07:07] <wastrel> navyn:  ask google
[07:07] <Mordof> adriyel, nope
[07:07] <Mordof> navyn, 256x1024
[07:07] <wastrel> navyn:  google calculator = awesome
[07:08] <adriyel> want the exact number?
[07:08] <adriyel> you didn't specify :|
[07:08] <qbaler> anyone here who can help me resize my ntfs partition? (im getting a bad sector error)
[07:08] <mebaran151> why isn't ifconfig part of the standard path
[07:08] <amphi> Mordof: I tested it for a good while at each freq with mprime's torture option
[07:08] <mebaran151> just curious
[07:08] <Mordof> amphi, ohh i see
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> mebaran151,  where it at? sbin?
[07:08] <amphi> Mordof: until I found a voltage that was ok
[07:08] <Mordof> amphi, cause i dislike my temps...
[07:09] <Mordof> i changed cases, and lost my thermalpaste... the computer shop i went to gave me shitty stuff
[07:09] <amphi> Mordof: there's a kernel patch for centrino cpufreq that provides a sysfs interface to the freq/voltage table
[07:09] <navyn> i'm redoing my xorg file, what should i answer to this?  Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[07:09] <Mordof> amphi, centrino? im on amd..
[07:09] <navyn> wastrel, google rocks
[07:09] <amphi> Mordof: I don't know if there's a similar patch
[07:10] <Mordof> amphi, dont worry about it then. idc too much
[07:10] <Mordof> navyn, afaik i selected no, im not sure though, lol
[07:10] <navyn> Mordof, sounds good 2 me
[07:11] <rewt_> why would you boycott google?
[07:13] <wastrel> because of their china ting
[07:13] <wastrel> thing
[07:13] <qbaler> anyone here who can help me resize my ntfs partition? (im getting a bad sector error) (can anyone hear this?)
[07:13] <Madpilot> there's a great "Goolag" graphic out on the web somewhere :P
[07:13] <rewt_> what china thing
[07:14] <qbaler> can anyone hear me?
[07:14] <rewt_> qbaler i cant i can read you though ;)
[07:14] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: the great firewall of china
[07:14] <rewt_> hatake_kakashi,  huh?
[07:14] <qbaler> ok just making sure
[07:14] <Christopher> is it a lengthy process to get a usb hd recognized so i can access the media on it?
[07:14] <qbaler> how long it usualy take to get responses on the forums for help?
[07:15] <elkbuntu> qbaler question dependant, not long usually
[07:15] <qbaler> give it like a day or two?
[07:15] <farous> !tell qbaler about ntfs
[07:15] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: China has blocked many external sites and tries to promote 'healthy' internet lifestyle. Google had to make their own specific google.cn which also enforces the Chinese govt.'s idea
[07:15] <b1ind> Christopher, it got autodetected for me
[07:16] <rewt_> hmph..why did they HAVE to make it?
[07:16] <qbaler> guess i am jumping it .. only been 4 hours
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: because google want's to be known no matter where I suppose.. even MS too wants to be known eveywhere
[07:16] <elkbuntu> qbaler overnight if you want a variety of answers, but usually you'll get an answer in an hour or two
[07:16] <Christopher> b1ind, did something show you it was autodetected as soon as you plugged it in
[07:16] <rewt_> hmph
[07:17] <rewt_> so china has blocked google.com?
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: probably, but not google.cn
[07:17] <b1ind> don't remember, but if you're using gnome, check in the places menu for a XXgb volume
[07:17] <mzuverink> I am running fetchmail as a cron job and it sends me an email every time it executes, how can i get it to stop doing this?
[07:17] <Christopher> b1ind, nope using FLUX
[07:17] <qbaler> elkbuntu i sure hope someone can help me with something other then "ur screwed"
[07:18] <b1ind> check /media
[07:18] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: it seemed they made it quite easy to bypass
[07:18] <rewt_> So does china enforce googlemail? so they wouldhave www.gmail.cn?
[07:18] <b1ind> Christopher, for me, its /media/usbdisk/
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: I believe they made a deal with the Chinese govt. if that's what you meant
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> rewt_: dunno, I don't live there
[07:18] <wastrel> mzuverink:  cron mails any stdout output from the jobs it runs
[07:18] <elkbuntu> guys this google topic should probably go to the offtopic channel
[07:19] <wastrel> mzuverink:  standard method is to pipe the command to /dev/null  in the cron entry
[07:19] <rewt_> AH HAHAHAH they do have a gmail.cn
[07:19] <Christopher> b1ind, i dont know how to check /media
[07:19] <b1ind> ahh, hmm
[07:20] <Christopher> wait
[07:20] <Christopher> b1ind, nmd i do
[07:20] <b1ind> is it there?
[07:20] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: no, I meant ISTR that it was not difficult to get out of the google.cn jail
[07:20] <mzuverink> wastrel: how do you do that? I am new to linux and it took me forever to figure out how to make it run as a cron job
[07:20] <Christopher> b1ind, but it doesnt list a usbdisk
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: ISTR?
[07:20] <b1ind> hmm, then i'm outta my league :(
[07:20] <Christopher> just cdrom and floppy
[07:20] <b1ind> sorry Christopher
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> in standard terms r(?) ?
[07:21] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: 'I seem to recall'
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> ahh
[07:21] <Kyo> so the bash shell is the most common?
[07:21] <b1ind> iirc's lesser known sibling
[07:21] <Kyo> as oppose to the c and korn shell
[07:21] <amphi> hatake_kakashi: I'm not sure why google is getting all this flak, yahoo did much worse, actually shopping a journalist to the .cn authorities
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: like I said, if you are surfing using non cn related IP, netblock, maybe its not filtered for you, but maybe when you are in there. Maybe the rules are different
[07:22] <hatake_kakashi> amphi: hence they did get a bit of a flame for the Chinese govt.
[07:22] <hatake_kakashi> anyway its OT as said before
[07:22] <heliotrope> after i've compiled and tried to run a .cc file in anjuta it didnt do anything, does anyone know how to run anjuta?
[07:22] <Christopher> b1ind, i know it shows up in GNOME no problem.. pops right up on the desktop
[07:22] <rewt_> i just made a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>account............current usage 0.0% of 20.0M   they getting gipped ah haha
[07:23] <wastrel> mzuverink:  /etc/crontab   is the file
[07:23] <b1ind> Christopher, might have to do w/ dbus and hal... maybe somewhere to look
[07:23] <wastrel> mzuverink:  unless it's in your user crontab, in which case  crontab -e
[07:23] <rewt_> iknow what cron does, but why does ubuntu use it daily?
[07:23] <rewt_> what taks is itperforming?
[07:23] <wastrel> mzuverink:  i don't know if ubuntu has a GUI tool for cron management
[07:24] <mzuverink> wastrel: what would I enter in the command, I am using webmin to add the cron job
[07:24] <Christopher> b1ind, what are those?
[07:24] <wastrel> mzuverink:  oh.  well just add  | /dev/null  to the end of your fetchmail command
[07:24] <b1ind> they are some things for hardware abstraction and 'i think' hardware autodetection
[07:24] <bk> does anyone program gtk+ apps in ubuntu?
[07:24] <b1ind> like i said, im probably not the best person to help you
[07:25] <wastrel> mzuverink:  fetchmail -some -options  | /dev/null      the | sends the output to the next program or file, and /dev/null is the bitbucket
[07:25] <llama32> hi. im getting really angry that apt keeps forgetting everything or something. it seems to automatically update at times im not on the net, then give up and i have to run apt-get update before i install anything. it seems to happen possibly more than daily. how do i disable this? im on dialup so apt-get update is a serious pain (extra slow dialup too).
[07:25] <amphi> bk: I have done a little gtk programming, on debian
[07:26] <bk> amphi: have u setup gtk in ubuntu?  i'm about to, but i've never done it before.
[07:26] <[bosco] > allright does anyone in here use suspend 2
[07:26] <wastrel> mzuverink:  it's traditional to pipe commands in the cron files to /dev/null for just this reason :]
[07:27] <Christopher> b1ind,  thanks anyways
[07:27] <Christopher> its not a problem... i have others i need to figure out heh
[07:27] <amphi> bk: what do you mean, 'set up' ? for programming to gtk, you need many -dev packages - glib, gtk, pango, blah blah
[07:27] <Christopher> like why my Stellarium program is shown in apps menu but wont run like its not even there
[07:27] <amphi> Christopher: try running it from a terminal
[07:27] <mzuverink> wastrel: it says permission denied
[07:28] <wastrel> mzuverink:  hmm i'm using the wrong operator
[07:28] <wastrel> mzuverink:  >  instead of |
[07:28] <mzuverink> wastrel: /bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied
[07:28] <mzuverink> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com
[07:28] <b1ind> some stupid usb network driver is preventing my kernel from compiling, but i'm sure i eliminated it from my .config
[07:29] <bk> amphi: i don't know how to locate those packages in ubuntu, so i'm going to install them individually by downloading and installing their tarballs.  do you think that's a bad idea?
[07:29] <Christopher> amphi, i did.. got some errors
[07:29] <[bosco] > allright does anyone in here use suspend 2
[07:29] <wastrel> mzuverink:  heh sry it's past my bedtime
[07:29] <amphi> bk: use apt-cache to search for them, eg. apt-cache search  glib dev
[07:29] <amphi> [bosco] : I use suspend 1 (or is it 0) ?
[07:29] <timfrost> llama32, there is a script in /etc/cron.daily called apt, which runs the command 'apt-get update'.  You may wantto disable that script.  But you will then need to manually run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade'
[07:30] <Christopher> amphi, im missing a GLX extension for display in xlib or something
[07:30] <mzuverink> wastrel: past my bedtime too
[07:30] <amphi> Christopher: pastebin?
[07:30] <mzuverink> wastrel: that seems to be working, thanks
[07:30] <Christopher> sure hold on
[07:31] <amphi> Christopher: BTW, you might also like celestia, if you don't know it
[07:31] <b1ind> Anyone familiar with this module ?drivers/usb/net/zd1211
[07:31] <[bosco] > amphi, i use suspend 2 if you use it  i need some help getting it running
[07:32] <Christopher> amphi, no i dont know it...
[07:32] <ImsDLE> how do i fix this?
[07:32] <ImsDLE> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:32] <bk> amphi: yeah, and then what?  how come glib didn't show up in the synaptic package manager?
[07:32] <Christopher> amphi, is it better than stellarium?
[07:32] <amphi> [bosco] : I don't know how different it is, but I do 'echo disk > /sys/power/state' to suspend to disk
[07:32] <llama32> timfrost: thanks. yes im aware i must update regularly, but on dialup it is incredibly stupid to do it every time i use apt (about daily)
[07:32] <Christopher> amphi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8727
[07:32] <Mez> !tell ImsDLE about backports
[07:33] <wastrel> ok g'night
[07:33] <amphi> Christopher: it's different, it's primarily a solar system simulator (orrery)
[07:33] <[bosco] > amphi, thank you for the info but it is not what i am lookiing for
[07:33] <Christopher> well having both of them will be better then :)
[07:33] <[bosco] > srry
[07:34] <amphi> Christopher: sdl parachute, heh
[07:34] <nomin> [bosco] , what is suspend 2?
[07:34] <amphi> Christopher: you don't seem to have 3d accel working there - what does glxinfo | grep rendering show?
[07:34] <Christopher> amphi, haha yeah what was that about
[07:35] <rewt_> I configured my integrated wireless today. When I manually activate it, it runs fine.  I have to manually activate the card again. Is there any way to configure this button to automatically active and set up the card by pushing the wireless button??
[07:35] <amphi> Christopher: the death-cry of the 'simple direct-media layer' library
[07:35] <Christopher> amphi, not good then
[07:35] <Christopher> amphi, "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:35] <Christopher> "
[07:36] <amphi> Christopher: yeah, that means no 3d accel support
[07:36] <Christopher> amphi, the stellarium program worked the other night in GNOME for me... then the next morning it didnt
[07:36] <ImsDLE> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
[07:36] <ImsDLE> you guys rock
[07:36] <ImsDLE> bless you all!@
[07:38] <wahyu> hello, pls help me,  how to connect ubuntu to Netware ???
[07:39] <ACU> hi guys --  I have trouble connecting from Ubuntu 5.10 to windows shares - I can see some of them (including the folders) but I cannot do anything - not open or whatever ------ some of the shares I cannot see the content at all ---- obviously I can access them from Windows Machine ---   once again from Ubuntu I go smb://servername ----- any help ?
[07:39] <amphi> Christopher: did you run that command I gave you?
[07:40] <TheWinner> hallo all
[07:40] <TheWinner> what the name of nmap in ubuntu
[07:40] <amphi> Christopher: FWIW, celestia also needs 3d accel
[07:40] <Christopher> oh nice
[07:40] <neu> TheWinner: 'nmap'..heh
[07:41] <Christopher> the glxinfo | grep
[07:41] <Christopher>  command
[07:41] <Christopher> ?
[07:41] <TheWinner> neu yah nmap
[07:41] <Christopher> i got the results - amphi, "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:41] <b1ind> if i use make-kpkg, is it normal that it compiles EVERYTHING regardless of whether or not its in the .config?
[07:41] <Christopher> ignore your name of course
[07:41] <amphi> Christopher: oh, ok
[07:41] <rewt_> I configured my integrated wireless today. When I manually activate it, it runs fine.  I have to manually activate the card again. Is there any way to configure this button to automatically active and set up the card by pushing the wireless button??
[07:42] <TheWinner> are ubuntu having nmap ??
[07:42] <neu> the name of nmap in ubuntu is nmap
[07:42] <rewt_> What is nmap? :-
[07:42] <Christopher> amphi, how come it worked the other night now.. did i do something to my graphics card?
[07:42] <rewt_> :-P
[07:42] <Madpilot> !info nmap
[07:42] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[07:42] <neu> port scanner and stuff
[07:42] <amphi> Christopher: I don't know, did you?
[07:42] <Christopher> haha have no idea
[07:43] <neu> its in main on dapper :o
[07:43] <amphi> Christopher: what video card is it?
[07:43] <ACU> Another question ---- I run Ubuntu in a PowerPC and I cannot make RealPlayer work at all - is very frustrating - I want to access some broadcasts and I do not know what to do
[07:43] <Christopher> ATI
[07:43] <Christopher> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1
[07:43] <damo21> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+10_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[07:43] <amphi> Christopher: is it supported by the xorg driver? man radeon will tell you if you're not sure
[07:43] <GigaClon> !tell ACU about RestrictedFormats
[07:44] <Christopher> yep
[07:44] <Christopher> first thing in the description says its a Xorg driver
[07:44] <damo21> have the ati drivers improved since last year?
[07:44] <Skif> Hrm... I have libdvdread3 installed, but I can't seem to play any DVDs under dapper; has this been discussed somewhere?  (I checked the wiki and didn't see anything immediately obvious, but may well have missed it)
[07:45] <wahyu> hello all, I want to connect my ubuntu to novel netware, any idea ???
[07:45] <Christopher> amphi,  hardware 2D acceleration, hardware 3D acceleration (except
[07:45] <Christopher>  R300 and IGP series cards),
[07:45] <Christopher> so it shoudl be good then
[07:45] <amphi> cool
[07:45] <Skif> This may well be one of those "duh, it's unstable" moments, which is fine, too, as long as that's all it is.
[07:46] <amphi> Christopher: did you reboot since it was working?
[07:46] <Christopher> yes many times
[07:46] <Christopher> i think i reinstalled ubuntu since then though
[07:47] <amphi> Christopher: ah
[07:47] <Mabus06> Skif: are you sure it's not a North American /PAL issue?
[07:47] <amphi> Christopher: does lsmod show the drm and radeon kernel modules loaded?
[07:47] <Skif> Mabus06: quite sure
[07:48] <Mabus06> Skif: have you tried more than one program to run the dvd?
[07:48] <Skif> Mabus06: yes-- totem, xine, mplayer, dvdrip
[07:48] <albacker> what's the problem here : checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:48] <albacker>  ?!
[07:48] <_jason> albacker: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:48] <rewt_> whats the command to start nmap?
[07:48] <Skif> I get this message from xine on the command line: libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB (0x00028d0e)!!
[07:48] <_jason> rewt_: nmap
[07:49] <rewt_> i tried it
[07:49] <rewt_> does ubuntu come with it?
[07:49] <amphi> albacker: apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <rewt_> or must u install it
[07:49] <Mabus06> Skif: err, didn't mean to pm you.
[07:49] <_jason> rewt_: did you install it?, no sudo apt-get install nmap
[07:49] <albacker> _jason, amphi, thanks !
[07:49] <rewt_> so how do I use this "nmap" what is it good for?
[07:50] <Skif> Mabus06: no problem.
[07:50] <_jason> rewt_: http://www.insecure.org/nmap/
[07:50] <Christopher> amphi, i dont see a "drm" or anything listed as "radeon or radeon kernel" in the list
[07:50] <Skif> I just wish I could tell if it's a bad disc (netflix discs often come somewhat scratched), or if there's some problem with libdvdread3 :-\
[07:50] <amphi> Christopher: try modprobe drm
[07:51] <Skif> But I have tried multiple discs, and they all fail similarly.
[07:51] <amphi> Skif: that's not caused by a scratch, I wouldn't say
[07:51] <amphi> Christopher: pm?
[07:51] <Skif> amphi: I wouldn't think so either, though dvdrip complaints read as if it might be.
[07:51] <Christopher> amphi, got a fatal: error
[07:51] <amphi> Christopher: no such module?
[07:52] <Christopher> FATAL: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Operation not permitted
[07:52] <amphi> Christopher: sudo modprobe drm
[07:52] <Christopher> i was about to say shoudl i put sudo in front of it
[07:53] <albacker> _jason, : http://rafb.net/paste/results/g1CKFy15.html
[07:53] <Christopher> amphi, i did that and nothing happens just gives me another prompt
[07:53] <amphi> Christopher: you are not 'identified to services' so I cannot receive your PMs, if any
[07:54] <rewt_> anyone want to take the time to teach me a few things on nmap?
[07:54] <rewt_> :)
[07:54] <amphi> Christopher: that's good; try modprobe radeon
[07:54] <Madpilot> rewt_: "man nmap" in a terminal
[07:54] <hatake_kakashi> man nmap
[07:54] <quicksilver3> Does anyone know how I could get a eg1032v3 linksys adapter working under ubuntu?
[07:54] <_jason> albacker: ubuntu seperates packages that are needed for compiling with a -dev suffix.  For instance, you probably need libxml2-dev
[07:54] <Christopher> amphi,  get my pms?
[07:54] <albacker> aha k,
[07:55] <albacker> thnx
[07:55] <amphi> Christopher: no; you need to /msg nickserv ident <your_passwd>
[07:55] <amphi> Christopher: assuming your nick is registered
[07:55] <Christopher> i dont know if it is or not
[07:56] <Madpilot> Christopher: /msg nickserv help
[07:56] <quicksilver3> Does anyone know how I could get that adapter working under ubuntu?
[07:56] <Christopher> amphi, i got the same response with the fatal:error message with modprobe radeon
[07:56] <amphi> Christopher: it won't be unless you registerd it
[07:56] <amphi> Christopher: sorry, there's an implicit 'sudo' prepended ;)
[07:58] <ACU> at the begining I felt very frustrated with Debian ---- and switch to ubuntu -- now I think that there is almos no difference between them ---- they are both very difficult ------- every step is challenging  and time consuming --- now I want to conect to VPN ------ also I want to be able to log in a windows domain ----- is just painfull---- it may take few months to solve something which is suposed to be natural ---- any sugestions
[07:59] <amphi> logging on to a windows domain is _natural_? wtf?
[08:00] <Christopher> amphi, k i did the sudo modprobe radeon.. brought another prompt up
[08:00] <albacker> _jason,  i got libxml2-dev and i still get the same error.
[08:00] <quicksilver3> As I stated above I am trying to get a eg1032v3 linksys adapter working under ubuntu...Im sorry if im sounding annoying but i would appreciate some guidance.
[08:00] <albacker> _jason, should i get libxml-dev ?
[08:00] <_jason> albacker: what are you compiling?
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, glade
[08:01] <albacker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FPrFFr90.html << the error.
[08:01] <_jason> albacker: do you know glade is in the repos?
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, there's and old version of glade there.
[08:01] <amphi> Christopher: you'll almost certainly need to restart X, but you could try glxinfo | grep rendering before, just in case
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, Version: 0.6.4-13.1
[08:01] <albacker> _jason, im compiling 2.0
[08:02] <_jason> albacker: install whatever you need for gtk+-2.0, that's what the error says
[08:02] <rewt_> nmap is very confusing
[08:02] <albacker> rewt_, no its not, just read man.
[08:02] <albacker> _jason, ?
[08:02] <rewt_> i am all these packet types are confusing me.
[08:02] <albacker> _jason, man i don't know what i do actually need ?
[08:03] <_jason> albacker: actually, easiest is to do 'sudo apt-get build-dep glade'
[08:03] <Christopher> k ill do that now
[08:03] <cafuego> ACU: Either look for documentation on google (easy) or use Windows, if you want windows functionality.  the windows domain logons would require pam_ldap and kerberos at a minimum (it would be easier if microsoft published specifications) - the vpn can be done with pptp. Google for 'ppptconfig ubuntu'.
[08:03] <Sonobana> i have problem in dapper. I cant set default locale
[08:03] <akant> Can anyone here suggest a good provider for strictly email access?  I would like something smaller with IMAP, Web access to mail, 1 gig limit .. maybe a shell account?  Any email providers run ubuntu ? I would support them :p
[08:04] <Christopher> amphi, restart computer or just the desktop with the restart in the menu in FLUX
[08:04] <rewt_> IMAP
[08:04] <rewt_> ?
[08:04] <albacker> _jason, never used build-dep ! what does it do ?
[08:04] <cafuego> imap!
[08:04] <amphi> Christopher: just restart X
[08:04] <akant> ?
[08:04] <_jason> albacker: installs the build dependencies for the package
[08:04] <cafuego> the *only* way to store your mail.
[08:04] <rewt_> cafuego, explain a little more?
[08:04] <akant> much nicer than POP
[08:05] <rewt_> sigh i need an nmap teacher to explain things a little easier than the manual has it
[08:05] <cafuego> rewt_: imap is a mail access protocol. As opposed to pop, you leave all mails on the server. SO you xcna access them from ANYWHERE with an imap client (virtually all webmail packages use imap too).
[08:06] <rewt_> why not use gmail?
[08:06] <akant> You can also create a folder structure with imap
[08:06] <akant> and leave it on the server
[08:06] <albacker> /join #vim
[08:06] <albacker> Oops :S
[08:07] <Christopher> k restarted
[08:07] <akant> what is the best imap server? wsimap? (washington's ??)
[08:07] <cafuego> rewt_: gmail is slow, only has oen address, and is limited to 1GB
[08:07] <akant> courier?
[08:07] <cafuego> akant: I prefer courier; dovecot is nice too.
[08:07] <Sonobana> cafuego: gmails limit is  2695.226785
[08:07] <Sonobana> MB
[08:07] <amphi> Christopher: glxinfo | grep rendering
[08:07] <rewt_> cafuego.....u can have multiple addresses? andits almost 3 gig limit?
[08:08] <akant> I remember dovecot Ill have to try that one again.
[08:08] <ACU> cafuego ---- Thanks ---- I am going to do both ----- pam_ldap  use windows --- I read that Xandros solve the problem - I wonder how  for pptp I did not know can do VPN ---thank again
[08:08] <n4cht> k.  quickest way to enable nvidia drivers in hoary?  (i remember this being painfully simple, but since i don't remember, i'd rather ask than risk breaking something.)
[08:08] <cafuego> Sonobana: My imap is currently limited to 160GB and unlimited emails.
[08:08] <Christopher> amphi, same response
[08:08] <akant> courier is one complete package correct? which has built in web mail and black boxing?
[08:08] <amphi> Christopher: bugger
[08:08] <rewt_> cafuego...u can have multiple emails in gmail
[08:08] <Christopher> amphi,  should i restart my computer maybe?
[08:08] <cafuego> akant: Yes-ss..
[08:08] <cafuego> akant: it's split up for purposes of ubuntu installation, though.
[08:09] <frogzoo> archiving question - how can I cut up a tar file into decent sized chunks - say 1gig - for ferrying via usb key?
[08:09] <akant> very cool
[08:09] <amphi> Christopher: did you do alt-ctrl-backspace?
[08:09] <akant> so many packages
[08:09] <akant> I get them confused :)
[08:09] <amphi> frogzoo: split
[08:09] <frogzoo> amphi: much obliged - thx!
[08:09] <akant> I still want to find an isp somewhere that runs ubuntu for mailservers :)
[08:10] <cafuego> rewt_: 3 is still nowhere near enough. Plus gmail won't host my own domains.
[08:10] <frogzoo> akant: plenty of virtual server isps out there... run your own maybe?
[08:10] <akant> not someone in their basement, but a real legite isp
[08:10] <amphi> akant: you would be more likely to find one running debian
[08:10] <cafuego> akant: I doubt there are any, Ubuntu is far too new.
[08:10] <akant> amphi: either or I would subscribe
[08:10] <[bosco] > how do i enable the universal repository
[08:10] <frogzoo> !repos
[08:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:11] <akant> ???
[08:11] <cafuego> No, thankyou.
[08:11] <Christopher> amphi, yeah still gets me the same response
[08:11] <akant> lol
[08:11] <cafuego> We pick our own customers.
[08:12] <akant> consulting firm?
[08:12] <cafuego> akant: Why not set up a decent mail service on your own linux box?
[08:12] <cafuego> akant: Pretty much
[08:12] <amphi> Christopher: register your nick so I can PM you, and vice versa
[08:12] <Christopher> i tried
[08:12] <Christopher> i keep getting some syntax message about my pw when i do what it says it doesnt confirm that i did it right
[08:13] <Madpilot> Christopher: "some syntax message"?
[08:13] <w32> hey is there a way to allow root logins in ubuntu w/ gnome
[08:14] <w32> other than sudo
[08:14] <w32> from the terminal
[08:14] <Christopher> yeah the syntax for the password
[08:14] <ifwntrends> w32: it's in your logon screen setup under security
[08:14] <Christopher> i type "/msg nickserve register <myusername>" click enter
[08:14] <Madpilot> w32: not recommended
[08:15] <Madpilot> Christopher: "nickserv", not serve - no final E
[08:15] <ifwntrends> w32: but not a good idea
[08:15] <w32> i know i just wonder if its possible
[08:15] <Christopher> and then it says >nickerseve< "register <myusername>"
[08:15] <w32> friend says it aint
[08:15] <Madpilot> !root
[08:15] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:15] <Madpilot> w32: the URL above will tell you how, but it isn't recommended
[08:15] <Angel_Dex> Hello all
[08:16] <w32> thx madpilot
[08:16] <Christopher> ahh i dont know how to do it
[08:16] <Christopher> its saying christopher is already registered but i typed in "/msg nickserv register Embryo
[08:17] <nicholasw> Can someone help me with WPA?
[08:17] <Madpilot> Christopher: /msg nickserv help
[08:18] <Christopher> Madpilot, "-NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>"
[08:18] <Christopher> thats the syntax message i get
[08:19] <w32> then type /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>
[08:19] <bk> l
[08:19] <bk> l
[08:19] <w32> w/ the <>
[08:19] <Christopher> i dont know how to do it
[08:19] <Christopher> im at the help too
[08:19] <Angel_Dex> How do i play a .swf game?
[08:20] <amphi> Christopher: you are trying to register 'Christopher' ?
[08:20] <ice_1963> what is swf game?
[08:20] <bk> testing
[08:20] <Christopher> how exactly do i register my name because /msg nickserv register <mynewname> doesnt work
[08:21] <Christopher> heres what im typing "/msg nickserv register Embryo
[08:21] <amphi> Christopher: /nick newname then /msg nickserv register your_password
[08:21] <bk> how do i change my text color in here?
[08:22] <amphi> heh
[08:23] <rewt_> how do i bridge my eth andwireless?
[08:24] <Christoffer> damn seems like every nick name is owned
[08:24] <Christoffer> lets see
[08:24] <Christoffer>
[08:24] <rewt_> How do I bridge my wireless and ethernet connections in breezy?
[08:24] <amphi> !tell rewt_ about repeat
[08:25] <OmegaAlpha> ok
[08:26] <henk> rewt_, i'm guessing you use brctl (bridge utils) just like any other set of nics..
[08:26] <Madpilot> OmegaAlpha: finally found a non-reg'd nick? :P
[08:26] <DrDT> henk: he asked in #wireless, he doesn't ahve brctl, so I told him to ask here.
[08:26] <w32> i have decided that people that kill frogs should be shot
[08:26] <rewt_> i typed brctl into my terminal and it said command not found
[08:26] <w32> twice @ least
[08:26] <rewt_> w32 i frog gig all the time ;)
[08:26] <ice_1963> ok
[08:27] <ice_1963> :0)
[08:27] <Imsdle> i can't install skype :(
[08:27] <DrDT> ubuntu doesn't ahve w/ brctl by deafult?
[08:27] <Imsdle> i try and do a apt-get update and i get Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main /binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[08:27] <DrDT> *come
[08:28] <henk> rewt_, for that kind of thing use something like this: " apt-cache search bridge " that will give you all kinds of packages that have something to do with bridges. one of them is bridge-utils you want that one
[08:28] <ice_1963> why can't you install skype
[08:29] <OmegaAlpha> Madpilot, yep
[08:29] <rewt_> k i got bridge utils
[08:29] <rewt_> now what
[08:29] <OmegaAlpha> i didnt realize my Embryo one worked.. but it said it was owned already
[08:29] <Imsdle> anyone?
[08:30] <rewt_> brctl works now
[08:30] <rewt_> but if gave me like 50 options?
[08:30] <ifwntrends> anyone know of a good dvd ripper/decrypter?
[08:30] <bk> testing
[08:30] <bk> testing
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: acidrip.
[08:30] <DrDT> rewt_: try
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl addbr bridge1
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl addif bridge1 eth0
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl addif bridge1 eth1
[08:30] <DrDT> brctl show
[08:30] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: that btw effectively relies on mplayer and mencoder
[08:30] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: thanks
[08:30] <DrDT> substituting those interfaces with yours, of course
[08:31] <henk> rewt_, now you go to google and ask " Setting up a bridge with brctl" and start reading
[08:31] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: i've got mplayer, is mencoder in the repos by any chance?
[08:31] <bk> testing
[08:31] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: nfi, I compiled mine from source with as much variety in extension support as possible from the universe/multiverse repos.
[08:31] <w32> furthemore, those that are not friends of frogs are enemies and should also be shot
[08:32] <w32> @ least twice
[08:32] <DrDT> w32: frogs' legs are delicious
[08:32] <ice_1963> etch
[08:32] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: ok, thanks
[08:32] <hatake_kakashi> ifwntrends: and that then messed up my installation more or less as a result
[08:32] <ifwntrends> haha
[08:33] <henk> bk, what are you testing? How many times you can say testing before someone gets annoyed ;) ??
[08:33] <ifwntrends> hatake_kakashi: well maybe i'll give it a shot anyhow
[08:33] <bk> i'm trying to change the color of my text.  how do i do it?
[08:34] <hatake_kakashi> bk: depends on your irc client.. and btw this chan _strips_ colours afaik
[08:34] <ice_1963> are you running kde or gnome?
[08:34] <DrDT> bk: red filter plastic for your monitor
[08:34] <w32> DrDT: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGHHHH
[08:34] <DrDT> w32: KHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
[08:34] <ice_1963> bk kde or gnome
[08:35] <bk> i see the text people write to me is red, but the text i type out is light grey (which is hard to read)
[08:35] <bk> gnome
[08:35] <ice_1963> xchat
[08:35] <bk> yes
[08:35] <ice_1963> in settings
[08:36] <henk> that depends where you want to change it? You may need to buy a different pencil filling.. or pick up the other crayon or do <font color=#ff00ff>text</font>.... Or you may be trying to influence the color your text has in this chat in which case you should probably read the docs of you chatclient
[08:36] <Ryubuntu> I'm running Ubuntu on my fujitsu lifebook S6210 laptop and the resolution is 1024 x768. I want to go higher but I can't. Is there any other option to go to higher resolution?
[08:36] <Madpilot> !tell Ryubuntu about fixres
[08:36] <bk> ice_1963, yeah, and then preferences... but which one of these options controls the color of text i type out?
[08:37] <Ryubuntu> Madpilot, thanks
[08:38] <Madpilot> np
[08:38] <ice_1963> i'm running kde with konversation
[08:39] <ice_1963> kde3.5.1 Debian etch :0)
[08:40] <rewt_> DrDT, i did all that and i see bridge name     bridge id               STP enabled     interfaces
[08:40] <rewt_> bridge1         8000.00904befbb5f       yes             eth0
[08:40] <rewt_>                                                         wlan0
[08:41] <nanotube> heya all. so ive tried quite a few games, both from the repos and in the default install, and they all kinda suck... anyone can recommend any decent games for ubuntu?
[08:41] <nanotube> nothing "serious" just something to play once in a while?
[08:42] <Madpilot> nanotube: Enemy Territory, if you're into FPS
[08:42] <foolswisdom> "Show Changes", how do I get it to show more than just the most recent revision?
[08:42] <DrDT> rewt_: looks good, see if your desktop can get an IP from your router/etc. via DHCP
[08:42] <ubuntu_user`> how can I make "apt-get dist-upgrade" automatically remove the old versions of the packages?
[08:42] <nanotube> Madpilot, is that in the repos?
[08:42] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: man apt-get
[08:42] <Madpilot> foolswisdom: in the Ubuntu wiki? "Get Info"
[08:42] <ice_1963> bzflag that's a good game
[08:42] <Madpilot> nanotube: no, but there's a good Ubuntu wiki page about it
[08:42] <ubuntu_user`> hatake - couldn't find it there
[08:43] <hunterp> how can  i turn off password in screensaver. NO,System->preferences-> screensaver does not control this
[08:43] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: couldn't find it in man apt-get, apt_preferences and apt.conf
[08:43] <Madpilot> nanotube: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[08:43] <nanotube> Madpilot, ah, so its like a giant 500mib install, then?
[08:43] <foolswisdom> Madpilot: o, thank you, sorry for asking, "Show Changes" is confusing ;-)
[08:43] <Madpilot> nanotube: yeah, it's a massive download
[08:43] <nanotube> ice_1963, hmm, i might try that...
[08:44] <nanotube> Madpilot, heh, well, i did do quite a bit of fps back in the day, but these days i am trying to avoid anything addictive, and anything massive. ;) so would you happen to know of anything small and "casual" like? :)
[08:44] <rewt__> DrDT, wow that bridge killed my wireless connection aswell.
[08:44] <Madpilot> foolswisdom: some of the wiki options are a bit odd
[08:44] <ice_1963> you better have a good video card that game lol
[08:45] <Madpilot> nanotube: planetpenguin-racer - in the repos, fast & goofy
[08:45] <ice_1963> i run nvidia
[08:45] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: or I suppose you could have a crond doing the cleaning up for you
[08:46] <nanotube> Madpilot, hmm, i will give it a shot. :)
[08:46] <ifwntrends> would i use ifconfig to get the info to set up a static ip?
[08:46] <ajay> hi everybody.....
[08:46] <nanotube> ifwntrends, yes, you can use ifconfig to set up a static ip
[08:47] <nanotube> ifwntrends, "ifconfig eth0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" sets the ip of interface eth0 to the specified ip
[08:47] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi:
[08:47] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: how can i make crond do it for me?
[08:47] <marre> Anyone here that feels urged to help a total linux newbie with some cedega problems please?
[08:47] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi:  I read what you said but I don't understand what I read.
[08:47] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: hmm.. ok what part? maybe I might be able to help
[08:48] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: there is no man crond
[08:48] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, there is "man crontab"
[08:48] <DrDT> rewt_: nice to know it's ahvign an effect
[08:48] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: well not sure exactly how, but you want it to purge all unnecessary files right? you can do a simple script that deletes unnecessary files, and then attach that to the cron daemon
[08:48] <ubuntu_user`> 10x nanotube
[08:48] <DrDT> this place is too busy, I'm going back to #wireless
[08:48] <cafuego> ubuntu_user`: man 5 crontab, in fact
[08:49] <ifwntrends> nanotube: ok then mask is the subnet mask, and i assume i'd use bcast for the gateway address?
[08:49] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: though I thought synaptic can do it as well, albeit being a frontend
[08:49] <nanotube> ifwntrends, if you set inet, the bcast and subnetmask are set automatically, based on your ip
[08:49] <nanotube> ifwntrends, but you can change them if you really want to, i suppose :)
[08:50] <ifwntrends> nanotube: oh, i think i'll just stick with the defaults haha
[08:50] <nanotube> ifwntrends, i have found that to be a good choice, myself. :)
[08:50] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: cron seems to be rather hard - it takes too much time to get all the names; i will try synaptic
[08:50] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: let's see, I really do not understand any of it, but  I ran the printer configuration, and it cannot find the printer on the network,sven though smbtree sees it
[08:51] <ubuntu_user`> hatake_kakashi: although it seems strange how synaptic can do something that apt-get cannot
[08:51] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, to clean up useless stuff from aptget, you can just issue command "apt-get clean"
[08:51] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: assuming you are using kubuntu, under KDE and konqueror, type in the address bar smb:/
[08:51] <hatake_kakashi> ubuntu_user`: well there you go, what nanotube said
[08:52] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, crontab is a bit of a pain, but its nice if you want to set something up to run automatically. but there is really no need to put "apt-get clean" into crontab, because its not something you have to do very frequently anyway.
[08:52] <ubuntu_user`> nanotube: apt-get clean does old dependancies
[08:52] <ice_1963> what kernel is ubuntu running with?
[08:52] <Imsdle> can someone give me an example of the sources.list that works?
[08:52] <papiluski> Anybody install Asterisk iPBX on Ubuntu
[08:52] <cafuego> !easysource
[08:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:52] <papiluski> to help
[08:53] <Madpilot> ice_1963: easy way to find out - "uname -r" in a terminal
[08:53] <hatake_kakashi> ice_1963: uname -r
[08:53] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[08:54] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, if you check "man apt-get", and scroll down (or search) to the "clean" and "autoclean" option descriptions, you will see what it does. according to the manpage, "clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file"
[08:54] <ice_1963> i'm running etch
[08:54] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: i did that , and it came up with a window that shows me iowa
[08:54] <ice_1963> kde3.5
[08:54] <nanotube> Imsdle, yes i can, hold on...
[08:54] <Madpilot> ice_1963: ah - 2.6.12-10-k7 is what I'm running, that's current for Breezy (with a K7 CPU, obviously...)
[08:54] <nanotube> Imsdle, http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles#Ubuntu_Repositories_and_sources.list (this is mine)
[08:55] <ice_1963> ok
[08:55] <nomad111> hi every1 where can i find tutorials on using the ubuntu terminal
[08:55] <ubuntu_user`> nanotube: apt-get clean does not seem to recongnize old version of installed packages as obsolete for me
[08:55] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: that's the computer name right? click on it and you can see the shares, I believe you can also see the printer shared if smbtree can see it.. hopefully under smbtree the printer is not shared with $ sign behind it, or else that's a hidden share
[08:55] <Madpilot> !tell nomad111 about cli
[08:55] <kc> anyone got a link to a good hardware compatibility list for unbuntu?
[08:55] <[bosco] > use --targets to display help on valid targets.
[08:55] <Madpilot> kc: basic stuff here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:56] <hatake_kakashi> nomad111: google for 'bash HOWTO'
[08:56] <liable> kc: its the kernel more than the distro for hardware stuff
[08:56] <Ryubuntu> !tell Ryubuntu  about cli
[08:56] <nomad111> thx ppl
[08:56] <rewt__> How do I set my integrated wireless button to work right?
[08:56] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, hmm... how about "autoclean"...
[08:56] <ice_1963> i'm running kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:56] <kc> thanks
[08:56] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: my husband says no that, that is the workgroup
[08:56] <liable> no!
[08:56] <ubuntu_user`> nanotube: i guess it would be better to remove old versions manually - it is boring, but works all the time
[08:57] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: ahh ok, when you double click on it, you should see the computers that are under those workgroups, click on the appropriate one to see the shares
[08:57] <nanotube> ubuntu_user`, well, ok... sorry if i couldnt be of much help. :|
[08:57] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi:  ok, i will do that
[08:58] <mebaran151> I have two displays, a DVI LCD panel and a analog CRT
[08:58] <mebaran151> I want to default to the DVI LCD, but X chooses the Analog CRT, even though during boot, it displays on the DVI
[08:58] <mebaran151> how do I make X choose the DVI displa
[08:59] <rewt__> How do I setup my integrated wireless button?
[08:59] <nomad111> does any1 use kde on ubuntu or do u just use kubuntu
[08:59] <rewt__> IF I manually activate my integrated wireless card, my light on my button turns on like it should when the card is in use.
[08:59] <Madpilot> nomad111: Kubuntu *is* Ubuntu+KDE
[08:59] <rewt__> If I push the button to turn off the card then push it again to turn it back on, it doesnt turn back on. I have to manually reactivate the card
[08:59] <nomad111> ah k
[08:59] <Imsdle> THANK YOU nanotube
[08:59] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: I do
[09:00] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: i see the the shares, but i do not see the printer being shared
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: err nm
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> nomad111: I do
[09:00] <nomad111> neways im just trying to figure out how to update firefox through the console
[09:00] <nanotube> nomad111, if you want to try kde on ubuntu, you can install the "kubuntu-desktop" package (that is, if you are already running on ubuntu). otherwise, if you have not installed yet and want to use kde, like Madpilot says, get kubuntu, which is the same thing.
[09:00] <mebaran151> could anyone point me to an xinerama howto then
[09:00] <nanotube> Imsdle, no prob. have fun. :)
[09:00] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: what about under smbtree? did it show the printer but behind that shared name it has $ sign appended to the back of it?
[09:00] <papiluski> Anybody with good experience on ubuntu VOIP Solutions
[09:00] <nomad111> thx for the tip
[09:00] <papiluski> Like Asterisk
[09:00] <marre> Need some help with ubuntu and cedega please, anyone?
[09:01] <nanotube> papiluski, well, i dont have any good experience... but i hear skype is good. :)
[09:01] <wahyu> hi all, how to change root pwd, in ubuntu 5.10 ??
[09:01] <nanotube> nomad111, , have you seen the ff1.5 installation guide?
[09:01] <nanotube> !tell wahyu about rootsudo
[09:02] <papiluski> nanotube: skype is just for basic p2p
[09:02] <papiluski> voice
[09:02] <nanotube> papiluski, yes... you are looking for something else?
[09:02] <hatake_kakashi> wahyu: why would you want to do that?
[09:02] <nanotube> hatake_kakashi, hehe yea, good question. :)
[09:03] <papiluski> but Astersik seems to be the upcoming opensource revolution that will shake the entire telephony world like linux is doing
[09:03] <nanotube> papiluski, hm, that's what ive heard. ive also heard that its a big pain to set up. (well, and i know that you need special hardware to use it - just a regular modem doesnt do it)...
[09:03] <papiluski> With your Linux box in ur bedroom and an internet access
[09:03] <papiluski> you can setup a telephone exchange
[09:04] <mebaran151> anybody know how to specify which adapter for X to use
[09:04] <[bosco] > so what is module image and the kernal heders in ubuntu
[09:04] <pvh> Is Dapper 'apt-get dist-upgrade'able right now?
[09:04] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: here is what i saw,Adam\epsonr200 does not have the $, but adam\ptint does have the $ behind it
[09:04] <papiluski> for ur entire community
[09:04] <papiluski> cheaply
[09:04] <mebaran151> not adapter but head
[09:04] <mebaran151> as my card has two heads
[09:04] <hatake_kakashi> wahyu: the root account is not accessible for security purposes, they promote the idea of using sudo, and if you change the root password, etc you have opened up to a flaw which can be problematic.. adding to that even if you enabled root, you cannot use X with root
[09:04] <papiluski> BUt digium.com will be having a boot camp
[09:04] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: you mean adam\print$ ?
[09:04] <papiluski> march ending and i plan to be there
[09:05] <nanotube> papiluski, heh
[09:05] <papiluski> Y
[09:05] <nanotube> mebaran151, two heads are better than one, eh? :)
[09:05] <papiluski> It comes with what the telco buy with fat dollars for almost nothing
[09:05] <Madpilot> !tell wahyu about root
[09:06] <mebaran151> nanotube
[09:06] <papiluski> They say you could cluster your machines to serve more people
[09:06] <mebaran151> in this case
[09:06] <mebaran151> yes
[09:06] <mebaran151> well it will be
[09:06] <mebaran151> he first head is my normal DVI monitor
[09:06] <mebaran151> the second is my new projector
[09:06] <mebaran151> running vim on a projector is just silly
[09:06] <mebaran151> I'd like to be able to switch between the two
[09:06] <papiluski> A calling card business is just easy to handle by Asterisk
[09:07] <mebaran151> like have vt7 be my normal monitor
[09:07] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:07] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:07] <mebaran151> and vt8 be the projector
[09:07] <sumedha> Is xorg in ubunto 5.10 compiled with support for bitmap fonts ?
[09:07] <papiluski> so i want to get enough info be4 going for the bootcamp
[09:07] <nanotube> mebaran151, sorry, i dont really have any idea how to do that...
[09:07] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: my husband just showed me how to do a pastebin, and does this help?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8728
[09:08] <mebaran151> any place I could look
[09:08] <marre> So, noone ever have got any problems with cedega/wine in here?
[09:08] <mebaran151> it feels so passe to unplug then replug
[09:08] <nanotube> mebaran151, try searching the ubuntu forums? ubuntuforums.org ?
[09:08] <nanotube> marre, i never used cedega or wine... so far i am happy with what ubuntu has for me. :)
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: hmm, crap.. can you pm me with the details, rather than the url because I'm still updating and did not access console browser
[09:09] <nanotube> marre, though i have been giving some thought to trying to get IE running under wine, for that occasional site that just doest like firefox...
[09:09] <mebaran151> tried, they don't help so much
[09:09] <rewt__> hatake_kakashi, you said you do?
[09:09] <marre> Ok, thanks for replying tho Nanotube
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: err about?
[09:09] <nanotube> mebaran151, hrm... well, then there is google... or you can just wait around until someone who knows comes along. :)
[09:10] <Ribs> nanotube: And when you get that working, you need to e-mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and tell him to learn how to code properly
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> rewt__: wifi? no it was my mistake
[09:10] <nanotube> marre, no prob. i was feeling very conversational :)
[09:10] <_michelle> hatake_kakashi: how do i pm?
[09:10] <marre> Hehe
[09:11] <nanotube> Ribs, the site i am thinking of is my bank. i emailed them and was like, dudes, whats up with no firefox support? and they were like, sorry, at this time we only support ie. them's the apples.
[09:11] <hatake_kakashi> _michelle: do you see a new window popup?
[09:11] <nanotube> Ribs, so unfortunately... i am kinda stuck. ;)
[09:11] <Ribs> nanotube: ah yes, I get the same with one of my credit card sites... They say it's due to IE 'security features' LOL
[09:11] <nanotube> Ribs, haha yea nice one there
[09:11] <bur[n] er> is anyone using xserver-xgl?
[09:12] <Ribs> However, my actual bank supports firefox
[09:12] <nanotube> cool. which bank is that?
[09:12] <Ribs> if my bank was IE only, I was switch bank
[09:12] <Ribs> nanotube: I dunno where in the world you are, but it's Natwest if you live in the UK
[09:12] <bur[n] er> wellsfargo and chase support firefox :)
[09:12] <Ribs> http://www.natwest.com/global_options.asp?id=GLOBAL/ACCESSIBILITY
[09:12] <nanotube> Ribs, well, my bank provides some nice goodies, so i dont think i would switch just cuz of ie. they reimburse my atm fees, and pay nice interest on my checking account...
[09:13] <nanotube> Ribs, iam in the usa, so unfortunately no natwest for me. :(
[09:13] <Ribs> atm fees?
[09:13] <Ribs> Man, you people are getting screwed over
[09:13] <nanotube> Ribs, you do not have atm fees in uk?
[09:13] <Ribs> not from the banks, no
[09:13] <Ribs> There was this whole thing about 6 years back, when banks were chargeing
[09:13] <nanotube> Ribs, so you can just go to any atm, and withdraw money, and no fees?
[09:13] <Madpilot> odd question, but - is it possible to have multiple instances of Totem running?
[09:13] <Ribs> nanotube: Not *any* cash machine
[09:14] <Ribs> nanotube: All the bank cash machines, yes (even if they are not natwest machines)
[09:14] <nanotube> bur[n] er, my bank reimburses me fees that OTHER banks atms charge me.
[09:14] <bur[n] er> nanotube: that's neat
[09:14] <Ribs> but some people run a business just on ATM machines... They tend to be in clubs etc.
[09:14] <nanotube> Ribs, wow, thats kickass! i am moving to the uk tomorrow. :)
[09:14] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: don't think so
[09:14] <rewt__> what is iamp?
[09:14] <Ribs> nanotube: Oh, it doesn't stop there :>
[09:14] <rewt__> imap*?
[09:14] <rewt__> !imap
[09:14] <ubotu> rewt__: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:14] <Ribs> nanotube: I have a saving account, with no tax at all
[09:15] <nanotube> rewt__, imap is an email transfer protocol.
[09:15] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: was afraid so - that's a bit irritating
[09:15] <rewt__> how do you use it?
[09:15] <Ribs> nanotube: Do you guys get charged to recieve calls on mobile phones?
[09:15] <kc> ::sigh:: despite all info about how it should just work, i seem to be having issues with my ati radeon 8500
[09:15] <nanotube> Ribs, cool!
[09:15] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: maybe there's a gconf option?
[09:15] <nanotube> Ribs, yea, we do get charged. you dont?
[09:15] <Ribs> nope :)
[09:15] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: there's a gconf option for everything, it seems - I'll have a look
[09:15] <nanotube> rewt__, well, you need an email client that supports it (like thunderbird, for example)
[09:15] <Ribs> nanotube: IN FACT... one network has just starting PAYING YOU to recieve calls :D
[09:16] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: i don't see one in obvious places :\
[09:16] <Madpilot> Ribs & nanotube: could you take the offtopic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[09:16] <nanotube> rewt__, and then you just connect to the imap mail server, and download your messages from it. and unlike pop, imap will keep mail syncronized between server and your hd.
[09:16] <rewt__> hmm
[09:16] <nanotube> Ribs, dude, wtf is wrong with the us, then? :)
[09:16] <nanotube> Madpilot, sorry, it just kinda grew out of a browser discussion...
[09:16] <Ribs> ohhh, didn't know offtopic existed
[09:17] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: I might just file a bug against Totem, and see what happens...
[09:17] <bur[n] er> so I'm assuming no one uses xserver-xgl
[09:17] <rewt__> say i ran an imap off a mates mail server
[09:17] <nanotube> bur[n] er, i value hard cash over firefox support... i guess i am just easy that way. :)
[09:17] <rewt__> could he check my mail ad see my password?
[09:17] <bur[n] er> nanotube: i've got no IE to use ;)  choice is made for me
[09:17] <Ribs> rewt__: probably
[09:17] <Madpilot> rewt__: if he had root/sudo/superuser access to that machine, yes he could see everything
[09:18] <nanotube> rewt__, if your mate owns the box, and has root access on it - he can read ANYTHING on that box, including your mail.
[09:18] <SAAD3000> hello, where do i find the new kernel for 5.10?
[09:18] <rewt__> including my password?
[09:18] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: probably not - Opera's IE-faking isn't all that convincing
[09:18] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: not from a Linux box, anyway
[09:18] <nanotube> rewt__, only way to prevent that is to encrypt your mail, with gpg, for example. but that is not very practical for "regular" mail because for encryption the other party has to have gpg too...
[09:19] <Madpilot> rewt__: maybe
[09:19] <SAAD3000> hello, where do i find the new kernel for 5.10?
[09:19] <nanotube> rewt__, he cannot see your password per se, because it is hashed, but he can just sudo to your user, or sudo to root, and he does not need your password at all.
[09:19] <rewt__> hmph ok
[09:19] <nanotube> Ribs, got your pm, but cant reply cuz have to "register"...
[09:19] <rewt__> what is gpg by the way
[09:19] <rewt__> ?
[09:19] <Madpilot> !gpg
[09:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[09:19] <Ribs> that's okay, thought it would be a good one off anyway :>
[09:19] <bur[n] er> gpg == gnu pgp
[09:20] <Ribs> unless you wanna chat or whatever, I can let you through
[09:20] <nanotube> rewt__, but notice, that this is the same whether your mail is on your mate's server, or on the isp's server, or anything - the isp's sysadmins can theoretically read all your mail too. :)
[09:20] <SAAD3000> hello, where do i find an upgrade of the default kernel of 5.10??
[09:20] <rewt__> yea he owns a site and uses his box as his server
[09:21] <nanotube> SAAD3000, what cpu do you have?
[09:21] <a2xm> hi all.. I think I've seting up the samba correctly... I try print from the client and it did send the job to the samba server.. but it didn't print anything.. any helps.. thanks
[09:21] <SAAD3000> nanotube Pentium M processor
[09:21] <nanotube> rewt__, well, if you trust him, you could have your mail on his server. but do recognize the fact that he CAN, if he wants to, read your mail...
[09:21] <jin> whats the command to update things
[09:21] <jin> ???
[09:21] <rewt__> ok, thanks
[09:22] <defrysk> jin, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:22] <jin> thank u
[09:22] <nanotube> SAAD3000, ok, in that case you want to install package "linux-686". that will install the latest kernel for you.
[09:23] <nanotube> jin, or you can use the synaptic package manager, which is a very nice gui interface to apt-get
[09:23] <SAAD3000> nanotube oke where do I find it to download it? Because I can't access the internet from Ubuntu
[09:23] <nanotube> SAAD3000, oh... hmm... let me see now...
[09:23] <jin> ooo
[09:23] <jin> thanks
[09:24] <jin> nah i wanna practice more the the comand line
[09:24] <defrysk> jin, wise choice :)
[09:25] <fek> moin
[09:26] <nanotube> SAAD3000, ok, to download, you will need to get these to .deb packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 and http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-restricted-modules-686
[09:27] <Ribs> nanotube: whoa, bad advice
[09:27] <nanotube> SAAD3000, and then after you transfer them over to your ubuntu box, run "dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[09:27] <Ribs> nanotube: He should install the meta-packages.
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, but you cannot download meta packages
[09:27] <SAAD3000> nanotube only those 2 right.
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, he said he has no net access from ubuntu
[09:27] <Ribs> oh
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, so he has to download debs, and then install
[09:27] <Ribs> sorry, wasn't paying attention :>
[09:27] <nanotube> Ribs, i would have recommended "linux-686" otherwise :)
[09:27] <nanotube> SAAD3000, yes, i think just those two would do it.
[09:28] <OmegaAlpha> Ribs.. its whats for dinner
[09:28] <SAAD3000> nanotube do you rememver whats the default kernel version of 5.10?
[09:28] <pvh> Oooooh! Compiz!
[09:28] <nanotube> SAAD3000, hrm, hold on, i will check my grub menu :)
[09:28] <Ribs> OmegaAlpha: I'm all bone and no meat
[09:29] <nanotube> SAAD3000, default is "2.6.12-9-386"
[09:31] <SAAD3000> nanotube I hope it recogize my wireless and my get me online.
[09:31] <XFreeMan> SPS, i've isstalled ubuntu but the eth0 is not functioning although i have configured it
[09:31] <nanotube> SAAD3000, what is your wifi card?
[09:32] <nanotube> SAAD3000, i am not sure that the new kernel has any extra wifi support... its just security updates and things like that... afaik.
[09:32] <SAAD3000> nanotube Intel wireless pro 2200 BG
[09:32] <nanotube> SAAD3000, w00t!!!! me too!!!
[09:32] <nanotube> SAAD3000, but my 2200bg worked well right out of the box, with no problems...
[09:32] <SAAD3000> nanotube Under suse didn't detect it.
[09:32] <heliotrope> Seveas, whats up
[09:33] <SAAD3000> nanotube then I have to check my network card because it didn't get me online
[09:33] <SAAD3000> nanotube oke i gtg I'll catch u later on here thanx .
[09:33] <nanotube> SAAD3000, i have never run suse... so dont know what's up with that. but when i unstalled ubuntu on my laptop, with 2200bg wifi, it just worked
[09:33] <nanotube> SAAD3000, ok, good luck :)
[09:33] <heliotrope> can anyone help me with g++
[09:33] <lqtruong> hi
[09:33] <SAAD3000> nanotube whats ur laptop?
[09:33] <jin> i got a couple of questions....
[09:33] <SAAD3000> am on laptop now
[09:33] <nanotube> dell inspiron 5150
[09:33] <lqtruong> hi
[09:33] <SAAD3000> ohh oke
[09:33] <jin> whats wget?
[09:33] <nanotube> here is my website on how i got it all set up and custom
[09:33] <lqtruong> i dont know
[09:33] <lqtruong> nos
[09:33] <SAAD3000> catch u later thanx
[09:34] <nanotube> pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles
[09:34] <lqtruong> i really dont know
[09:34] <nanotube> laterz, SAAD3000
[09:34] <lqtruong> uzysz
[09:34] <lqtruong> gkfjgifg
[09:34] <lqtruong> nhung
[09:34] <nanotube> jin, its a program to download files off the web
[09:34] <lqtruong> co
[09:34] <jin> ooo
[09:34] <XFreeMan> Help, i just installed ubuntu, the eth0 is not working
[09:35] <jin> what about "sudo dpkg -i"
[09:35] <w32> XFreeman is it active
[09:35] <pithe^afk> hello, you are gonna hate me... i'm a complete newbie. i just want to know if i should let ubuntu do the partitioning for installation or if i should partition in windows then install
[09:35] <Madpilot> jin: dpkg is how you install .deb files
[09:35] <w32> Xfreeman is it configured
[09:35] <nanotube> jin yea, its pretty neat. instead of firing up your browser and stuff to get things, can just say "wget blabla.com/file.mp3" and it will download it. there is also a nice gui frontend to wget called "gwget"
[09:35] <nanotube> jin, sudo dpkg -i is the command to install software packages
[09:35] <jin> ooo thanks
[09:36] <w32> Xfreeman is the ethernet cable terminated properly and plugged in?
[09:36] <XFreeMan> w32 yes it is
[09:36] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: that works in Dapper?
[09:36] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: sure
[09:36] <nanotube> jin, but in ubuntu, the best way to get packages is through the synaptic package manager. it downloads and installs things automatically.
[09:36] <defrysk> jin, make sure to install ubuntu debs only
[09:36] <jin> k
[09:36] <XFreeMan> when i booted the LiveCD, it was fine and OK
[09:36] <bur[n] er> what i'm not sure about working in dapper is xserver-xgl.. i'm hesitant to try it out
[09:36] <nanotube> XFreeMan, when you run "ifconfig" from commandline, is eth0 listed?
[09:36] <amphi> nanotube: nice page - you should submit it to linux-laptop.net
[09:36] <w32> ifconfig eth0 ?
[09:37] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: cool - more Dapper coolness to look forward to
[09:37] <defrysk> jin, read http://help.ubuntu.com/
[09:37] <nanotube> amphi, thanks :) whats linux-laptop.net?
[09:37] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, i think my messages got blocked
[09:37] <XFreeMan> yes and gives the ip i specified too put it doesn't ping
[09:37] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: soooooo much cool stuff in dapper :)
[09:37] <amphi> nanotube: point your browser to http://linux-laptop.net/ ...
[09:37] <w32> maybe your gateway or dns settings are wrong ?
[09:38] <jin> thanks
[09:38] <XFreeMan> i got ADSL router, the gw + dns are te router, they are configured
[09:38] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: /msg nickserv ident <passwd>
[09:38] <yuri_> hi, can someone tell me how to forward a port?
[09:38] <w32> no I mean on eth0 is it pointing to the right gateway and dns
[09:39] <w32> is it static or dynamic
[09:39] <amphi> yuri_: I think you will find docs on that at http://netfilter.org/
[09:39] <OmegaAlpha> ok
[09:39] <XFreeMan> static
[09:39] <OmegaAlpha> well i got no new memos
[09:39] <w32> change the ip to dynamic and try that
[09:39] <yuri_> thanks!
[09:39] <w32> if it gets and address and you can get "OUT"
[09:39] <a2xm> hi all.. I think I've set up the samba correctly... I try print from the client and it did send the job to the samba server.. but it didn't print anything.. any helps.. thanks
[09:39] <nanotube> amphi, ooo, its nice. :) i am submitting now. tx for the headsup.
[09:39] <defrysk> yuri_, in case you use a router : http://www.portforward.com/
[09:40] <w32> then you static config'd it wrong
[09:40] <pvh> bur[n] er: i'm just updating to dapper to try xgl
[09:40] <pvh> bur[n] er: and compiz
[09:40] <w32> or there is a conflict with another ip addr on the same subnet
[09:40] <rewt__> Anyone here good at writing scripts or knows how to write scripts at all?
[09:40] <pvh> bur[n] er: life without window tiling is hard after you get used to having it. it really replaces the task-switching bar very well
[09:40] <XFreeMan> no conflict, i'm trying DHCP
[09:41] <pvh> bur[n] er: human eyes are faster at recognizing colour/shape than reading text
[09:41] <w32> ie comp1=<IP_ADDRESS> & comp2=<IP_ADDRESS> would cause a problem
[09:41] <nanotube> rewt__, what kinda script do you wanna write?
[09:41] <amphi> nanotube: pleasure - it's better to have this stuff in one place than scattered all over teh intarweb
[09:41] <rewt__> a script where i push my radio button to turn on my wireless and it turns it on for me since it doesnt do it now
[09:41] <nanotube> amphi, yea, true. :) but its also nice to have my own site to do with as i please. ;)
[09:42] <amphi> nanotube: indeed - a link from linux-laptop.net is all
[09:42] <XFreeMan> i'm new to ubuntu, is it true that root is desables, i have to sudo everything
[09:42] <nanotube> amphi, yea, i saw. i already submitted. it has a LOT of info on there. that's cool. i wonder if we should link to it from the laptoptestingteam page on ubuntu wiki.
[09:43] <rewt__> my mate just got me an account using his imap stuff.....how do i ssh to him and change my pw?
[09:43] <w32> xfreeman yes
[09:43] <nanotube> XFreeMan, yes, that's true. you CAN enable root pretty easily, but that is discouraged
[09:43] <nanotube> XFreeMan, read this:
[09:43] <nanotube> !rootsudo
[09:43] <w32> sudo or enable root desktoplogind
[09:43] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:43] <rewt__> how do you ssh in ubuntu?
[09:43] <nanotube> !tell XFreeMan about rootsudo
[09:43] <w32> rewt_
[09:44] <rewt__> w32, yes?
[09:44] <nanotube> rewt__, just open up a terminal, and type "ssh servername -l yourremoteusername"
[09:44] <w32> apt-get install ssh openssh -server
[09:44] <rewt__> nanotube, do i need that ssh openssh -server?
[09:44] <w32> did you mean ssh in or out rewt_
[09:44] <nanotube> w32, ssh is installed by default. he does not need to install the ssh server
[09:44] <rewt__> oh ok
[09:45] <rewt__> So now about that script
[09:45] <nanotube> rewt__, open up a terminal, and type "whereis ssh". if stuff comes up, then ssh is already installed, and you dont need to install any packages
[09:45] <w32> oh it is I just do base installs
[09:45] <w32> never gui
[09:45] <w32> LEGACY HARDWARE
[09:45] <nanotube> w32, heh ic. gui is nice for desktop use, though. :)
[09:45] <nanotube> rewt__, so whats the script?
[09:46] <rewt__> IF I manually activate my integrated wireless card, my light on my button turns on like it should when the card is in use.
[09:46] <rewt__> If I push the button to turn off the card then push it again to turn it back on, it doesnt turn back on. I have to manually reactivate the card
[09:47] <rewt__> so I need a script that when I push that button, it turns on the card for me.
[09:47] <nanotube> rewt__, so what do you do to "manually activate the card" ?
[09:47] <rewt__> I go to sys>admin>networking    click on the card and hit activate
[09:48] <jin> well nighty night people
[09:48] <XFreeMan> it's not working
[09:48] <jin> and thankx again for the help
[09:49] <yuri_> hi, I need help forwarding a port to use with bittorent. It was suggested to me that i use netfilter but I have no idea how to use it. can someone give me a quick solution?
[09:49] <nanotube> rewt__, well, to start it from commandline, you would type "ifup eth1" (but replace eth1 with whatever name your wifi interface has)
[09:49] <w32> xfreeman your router or otherwise is issuing dhcp addrs right?
[09:49] <rewt__> \so
[09:50] <nanotube> rewt__, so you dont really even need much of a script to do it from commandline :)
[09:50] <rewt__> ifup wlan0
[09:50] <Madpilot> yuri_: that's probably going to depend on your router
[09:50] <XFreeMan> ofcourse
[09:50] <rewt__> I'd like to have the convenience of that radio button though :-P
[09:50] <nanotube> rewt__, if wlan0 is the name of your wifi, then yes. :) check what it is by running "iwconfig" from terminal
[09:50] <yuri_> i get no router probs in windows, only in linux
[09:50] <w32> i don't know then sorry
[09:50] <defrysk> yuri_, http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[09:50] <w32> I'm better w/ it in front of me
[09:50] <rewt__> it is wlan0
[09:50] <nanotube> rewt__, ok, then it is "ifup wlan0"
[09:50] <yuri_> been there... already... many times
[09:51] <rewt__> But what about convenience
[09:51] <rewt__> lol
[09:51] <defrysk> yuri_, thats as explicit as you can get it
[09:51] <rewt__> im a lazy geek
[09:51] <XFreeMan> i don't know what's wrong, as if it's seeing the network
[09:51] <nanotube> yuri_, in general, to forward a port, you just go to your router's config page, and set it up there.
[09:51] <nanotube> rewt__, so at which times would you like to bring up your wireless?
[09:51] <yuri_> like i said, the ports are forwarded and work in windows, but not in linux
[09:51] <nanotube> every time you boot up?
[09:52] <nanotube> yuri_, ah sorry, i missed that
[09:52] <w32> when you do and ifconfig eth0 do you actually see any IP address under the ineterface
[09:52] <XFreeMan> it work on windows, so i'll try it on GNU/Linux thought it shouldn't, i'll reboot
[09:52] <nanotube> yuri_, do you have your firewall turned off in linux?
[09:52] <yuri_> umm... 1 sec
[09:52] <Madpilot> yuri_: if you've got Firestarter running, make sure it's opened the BitTorrent ports
[09:52] <w32> or just the ipv6 addr
[09:53] <XFreeMan> btw, it's haging from time to time
[09:53] <yuri_> i cant see firestarteer in sys monitor...
[09:53] <nanotube> yuri_, from commandline, type "sudo iptables --list"
[09:53] <nanotube> yuri_, and see what comes up. if all the chains are are blank and accepting stuff, then your firewall is down. :)
[09:54] <XFreeMan> when i tried static, i saw the ip, but now dynamic only the ipv6
[09:54] <rewt__> nanotube, everytime i push that button
[09:54] <rewt__> lol
[09:54] <w32> ok then type ifconfig eth0 192.168. whatever and hit enter
[09:55] <yuri_> says it accepts it inbound.. so its off
[09:55] <w32> you know what i mean ?
[09:55] <nanotube> rewt__, hehe i see. well, i do not know where the script that is attached to your button is... but it must be there somewhere
[09:55] <rewt__> Canwe look for it??
[09:55] <rewt__> ^_^
[09:55] <XFreeMan> it geve, permission denied, do i sodu it, right?
[09:55] <nanotube> well, i am not at your computer, so you will have to do all the looking. :)
[09:56] <nanotube> rewt__,
[09:56] <rewt__> XFreeMan, yes
[09:56] <rewt__> nanotube,
[09:56] <nanotube> rewt__, but when you find it, just add "ifup wlan0" to it ;)
[09:56] <rewt__> nanotube, where should I start looking?
[09:56] <w32> xfreeman nano /etc/network/interfaces
[09:56] <nanotube> XFreeMan, its "sudo" not "sodu", just to make sure you know
[09:56] <rewt__> nanotube, and if I add that will it also add it in windows too?
[09:57] <nbound> !multimedia
[09:57] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[09:57] <nanotube> rewt__, try looking in /etc/acpi
[09:57] <amphi> nanotube: there is also tuxmobil.org, BTW
[09:57] <w32> i'm  about to pass out its 4am
[09:57] <nanotube> amphi, hmm, i will check it out...
[09:57] <yuri_> hey it worked.. looks like i did have my firewall up. hmm. im an idiot. thanks.
[09:57] <w32> need a cigarette
[09:57] <nanotube> w32,dude, its 4 am here too, and i be needing some sleep as well. :)
[09:57] <nanotube> yuri_, hehe well, glad you figured it out. :)
[09:58] <BlazedForever> hay can someone help me register?
[09:58] <XFreeMan> thantks w32, it's 11 am here, and i havn't slept yet
[09:58] <rewt__> nanotube, would it be ibm-wireless.sh?
[09:58] <w32> yep cya guys
[09:58] <nanotube> rewt__, that sounds plausible
[09:58] <rewt__> nanotube, asus-wireless.sh
[09:58] <nanotube> rewt__, hm, that sounds plausible too
[09:58] <nanotube> :)
[09:58] <nanotube> w32, cya
[09:59] <rewt__> nanotube, tosh-wirelss.sh
[09:59] <XFreeMan> w32 cya
[09:59] <Madpilot> BlazedForever: /msg nickserv help
[09:59] <w32> mhm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[09:59] <rewt__> nanotube, wireless.sh
[09:59] <rewt__> thats all i see plausable
[09:59] <nanotube> well, read the scripts and see what they say
[09:59] <nanotube> eg, tosh-wireless seems to be about bluetooth - so thats out
[10:00] <rewt__> nano
[10:00] <rewt__> i think i found something
[10:00] <rewt__> # /etc/acpi/events/asus-wireless
[10:00] <rewt__> # This is called when the user presses the wireless button and calls
[10:00] <rewt__> # /etc/acpi/wireless.sh for further processing.
[10:00] <rewt__> event=hotkey ATKD 0000005d
[10:00] <rewt__> action=/etc/acpi/asus-wireless.sh
[10:00] <Madpilot> !paste
[10:00] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:00] <rewt__> nano....pm?
[10:00] <shad0w1e> how do I change my hostname?
[10:00] <nanotube> rewt__, sorry, i am not registered, so i cannot pm...
[10:01] <nanotube> but hold on let me see there
[10:01] <BlazedForever> REGISTER
[10:02] <mod^> how do I let users change passwords with phpmyadmin?
[10:02] <nanotube> rewt__, see if you have the file /proc/acpi/asus/wled
[10:02] <nanotube> rewt__, if you do not, then that script does not do anything for you, because it works only on that device
[10:03] <XFreeMan> yo people, my eth0 is not working, i've tried everything
[10:03] <nanotube> BlazedForever, how to register?
[10:03] <nanotube> XFreeMan, firewall is off?
[10:03] <rewt__> nanotube, nope
[10:04] <rewt__> i have proc/acpi but no asus
[10:04] <XFreeMan> how can check the firewall
[10:04] <nitishp> How would I make an Ubuntu package that can be viewed in synaptic or some program like synaptic?
[10:04] <XFreeMan> iptables ?
[10:04] <nanotube> rewt__, then that's not it
[10:04] <rewt__> nano join me in /radioB
[10:05] <nanotube> rewt__, whats the brand of your laptop?
[10:05] <rewt__> Compaq Presario V2000
[10:05] <nanotube> nitishp, so you want to make a .deb package?
[10:05] <BlazedForever> cool i figured it out
[10:05] <rewt__> AMD Turion 64
[10:05] <nanotube> nitishp, from a tar.gz source package?
[10:06] <XFreeMan> nanotube, how do i check the Firewall
[10:06] <BlazedForever> can someone tell me if ubuntu comes with the opengl libraries pre-installed
[10:06] <nanotube> XFreeMan, run "sudo iptables --list" and see what it displays
[10:06] <XFreeMan> i got Compaq Evo N1020v
[10:06] <nitishp> nanotube: I have to make a Debian package?
[10:07] <nitishp> Alright, so I'll dpkg then correct?
[10:07] <nanotube> rewt__, well, i do not see anything about compaq wireless scripts. probably, you would have to search google to find your laptop make, and see how that works...
[10:07] <nanotube> nitishp, ubuntu uses the same package format as debian, yes.
[10:07] <nanotube> nitishp, and once you have a .deb, can install with dpkg -i
[10:08] <nitishp> Alright, sweet, thanks nanotube.
[10:08] <selinium> Hi all, my server chowns files as www-data:www-data  it is possible to and my user to the www-data pool?
[10:08] <rewt__> hmmm
[10:08] <XFreeMan> input/output/forward policy = accept  + no rule, i guess this is an empty config
[10:08] <nanotube> nitishp, the easiest way to make a .deb from a source is to use "checkinstall" package
[10:08] <ltibor65> Seveas, how can I make a boot floppy for Ubuntu?
[10:08] <nanotube> XFreeMan, yes, thats an empty config, so yoru firewall is down...
[10:08] <nanotube> XFreeMan, well, there goes my idea :)
[10:09] <rewt__> nanotube, will this work? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/018180.html
[10:10] <selinium> Hi all, my server chowns files as www-data:www-data  it is possible to ADD my user to the www-data pool?  (spelling mistake)
[10:10] <nanotube> selinium, to add users to the group www-data, open up your users and groups panel, (system>administration>users and groups) and you can edit groups and add users to them.
[10:10] <BlazedForever> can someone tell me if ubuntu comes with the opengl libraries pre-installed??
[10:11] <XFreeMan> i t seems i'll go back to slackware
[10:11] <selinium> nanotube, Cheers
[10:11] <nanotube> rewt__, or this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-January/019782.html
[10:11] <BlazedForever> im trying to config and it says im missing opengl "configure: WARNING: *** No OpenGL found."
[10:13] <nanotube> BlazedForever, try "glxinfo" from terminal
[10:14] <ltibor65> Hi guys! How can I make a boot floppy for Ubuntu? Can somebody help me?
[10:14] <zulfiqar_> ffis anyone using gperfection theme by lokheed?
[10:15] <nanotube> BlazedForever, got your pm. hmm... well i suppose that means that opengl is not on on your comp. it was installed by default on mine...
[10:16] <nanotube> ltibor65, not sure, but i think searching google for "ubuntu boot floppy" will yield some good results.
[10:16] <Mabus06> where does x chat log to by default when it's enabled
[10:16] <crimsun> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:17] <crimsun> err, sorry, misread
[10:17] <rewt__> nanotube, i tried that the ipw2200 thing said there was no /module
[10:18] <nanotube> BlazedForever, sorry, i do not. i looked around in synaptic but could not find it. i think it comes with x.org somewhere. it may already be on your comp, just not enabled, because your gfx card is somehow claiming it doesnt support it?... but i am not great with graphics cards.
[10:19] <nanotube> rewt__, hmm... well i guess you have reached the end of my knowledge. best i could suggest is to put an executable script on your desktop, with "ifup wlan0" in it, so that you can just double click and run it whenever you need to
[10:19] <rewt__> I don't know how to write one?
[10:19] <nanotube> Mabus06, probably ~/.xchat2/ somewhere?
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt: create a simple text file, with two lines in it
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, line 1 is "#!/bin/bash"
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, line 2 is "ifup wlan0"
[10:20] <rewt__> what do I create it in? openoffice?
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, then change permissions to executable for you
[10:20] <nanotube> rewt__, then you can run it
[10:21] <nanotube> rewt__, no, just use gedit
[10:21] <heliotrope> what is a good ftp for ubuntu?
[10:21] <nanotube> rewt__, or even pico
[10:21] <nanotube> heliotrope, "gftp" is real good
[10:21] <heliotrope> nanotube, thanks
[10:21] <heliotrope> nanotube, can i install it with symantec?
[10:21] <nanotube> BlazedForever, hmm, generally those -dev packages are just for development (ie, making your own software)... so i doubt it.
[10:22] <heliotrope> nanotube, synaptic*
[10:22] <nanotube> heliotrope, you mean synaptic?
[10:22] <heliotrope> nanotube, yeah lol
[10:22] <nanotube> heliotrope, hehe yes, you can. just search for gftp, it will be there
[10:22] <rewt__> nano...how do I make it executable for me?
[10:22] <nanotube> BlazedForever, well, doesnt hurt to give it a shot, right? :)
[10:23] <rewt__> mark execute?
[10:23] <nanotube> rewt__, right click file, select properties, go to permissions, and check the "execute" checkbox for owner
[10:23] <rewt__> under properties
[10:23] <rewt__> k
[10:23] <rewt__> Got it :)
[10:23] <nanotube> rewt__, see, you figured it out without me :)
[10:23] <rewt__> hehe
[10:23] <rewt__> now to try it
[10:23] <rewt__> brb
[10:24] <Scarborough> my firefox window closes from time to time by itself
[10:24] <Scarborough> why is that?
[10:24] <nanotube> BlazedForever, sorry... i am out of my depth here. do not know what to suggest.
[10:24] <zulfiqar_> is anyone using gperfection2 theme by lokheed?
[10:24] <nanotube> Scarborough, hmm, maybe its an extension or plugin problem?
[10:25] <nanotube> what extensions/plugins do you have?
[10:25] <nanotube> Scarborough, and what version of firefox?
[10:25] <heliotrope> how come i can compile and build a single file with g++ with no problem but when i do a project it wont work?
[10:25] <Scarborough> nanotube, its the latest one, but I dont have any plugins or extensions, exept fasterfox
[10:25] <nanotube> heliotrope, whats the error message?
[10:25] <nanotube> Scarborough, hmm, well, it may be fasterfox. cuz ive never heard of that extension, and do not have it. :)
[10:26] <heliotrope> nanotube, it just says build unsucessful
[10:26] <nanotube> Scarborough, try disabling fasterfox, and see if the random crashes go away, thats all i can suggest
[10:26] <BlazedForever> Can someone please help me with getting openGl working
[10:26] <nanotube> Scarborough, but its just a guess :)
[10:26] <nanotube> BlazedForever, good luck dude.
[10:26] <Scarborough> nanotube, its supposed to speed up ff, but i doubt that it works
[10:27] <nanotube> Scarborough, hehe yea, try disabling, see what happens.
[10:27] <nanotube> heliotrope, hm, sorry dont know...
[10:27] <Scarborough> nanotube, done, now lets see what happens
[10:27] <nanotube> Scarborough, yep... how frequently does it usually restart?
[10:27] <heliotrope> nanotube, its ok ill look through the help
[10:27] <nanotube> heliotrope, have fun. ;)
[10:28] <heliotrope> nanotube, lol, thanks
[10:28] <Scarborough> nanotube, like two-three times an hour
[10:30] <BlazedForever> does anyone here have any idea on how to get opengl to work?
[10:30] <nanotube> Scarborough, then you dont have long to wait :)
[10:30] <ideafix> i hate ubuntu
[10:30] <heliotrope> ubuntu rocks
[10:30] <nanotube> ideafix, then maybe you are in the wrong forum :)
[10:31] <Scarborough> not really :P
[10:31] <nanotube> ideafix, isnt there an #ubuntusucks channel somewhere? :)
[10:31] <heliotrope> my cat loves ubuntu so much he sleeps on only my computers with it installed
[10:31] <nanotube> heliotrope, lol
[10:31] <Scarborough> nanotube, what do you think about antivirus/spywere in ubuntu, do I need it?
[10:31] <ideafix> should i got to windows and say i hate ubuntu ?
[10:31] <neosc> Lo guys... finally got ubuntu to connect to the internet.. now how do i setup sound.. I dont hear a thing
[10:31] <nanotube> Scarborough, well, ive given that some research and thought myself... and come to the conclusion that it is not needed.
[10:32] <nanotube> Scarborough, antivir, for sure, because there are no viruses for linux in the wild, so it would just be sitting there eating resources and not doing anything
[10:32] <ideafix> nanotube: its not needed because ubuntu is in it self spyware
[10:32] <nanotube> Scarborough, spyware might not be completely useless, cuz them spyware people can come up with some pretty mean things... but if you just install stuff from repos or other reputable sources, dont really need it either.
[10:33] <nanotube> ideafix, how so? has it been sending info about you to some outside server?
[10:33] <ideafix> yes
[10:33] <neosc> Guys.. how do i setup sound.? i have simple 2 piece speakers
[10:33] <nanotube> ideafix, which server?
[10:33] <nomad111> wats the current linux kernel version
[10:33] <nanotube> nomad111, which cpu do youhave?
[10:33] <ideafix> i dont know im not an hacker
[10:33] <nomad111> nanotube, im using the ubuntu amd64 version
[10:34] <nanotube> ideafix, then how do you know it has been sending it in the first place??
[10:34] <nomad111> athlon 64 3800+
[10:34] <nanotube> well, my kernel is 2.6.12-10-686
[10:34] <nomad111> k
[10:34] <neosc> cud u help me? how do i setup sound.? i have simple 2 piece speakers
[10:34] <nanotube> nomad111, there is probably the equivalent for amd there too
[10:34] <dooglus> how can I blank my swap partition?
[10:34] <nomad111> one more thing wats the command to update stuff from the terminal
[10:35] <ideafix> but people because people come in irc using my passwords as nick names
[10:35] <amphi> nomad111: apt-get update/upgrade
[10:35] <nomad111> k cool thx
[10:35] <foxpaul> anyone know how to check which ports are being uised on my local machine, by which process?
[10:35] <amphi> !pal ideafix
[10:35] <ubotu> amphi: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:35] <amphi> bah
[10:35] <ideafix> whats that !
[10:35] <ideafix> ?
[10:35] <dooglus> nomad111: I use this alias in my .bashrc - then all I need to type is 'update' in a shell
[10:35] <dooglus> nomad111: alias update='sudo apt-file update && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:36] <amphi> ideafix: an instruction to the bot, but it doesn't understand that one
[10:36] <nomad111> lol too much technical language lol
[10:36] <nomad111> i just need to update and its asking are you root?
[10:36] <nomad111> do i hac to do sudo i
[10:36] <eneska18> hi
[10:36] <ideafix> is that german ?
[10:36] <amphi> nomad111: do sudo apt-get update to update the package database
[10:36] <dooglus> nomad111: run "gedit ~/.bashrc", then add in that line I wrote, starting at 'alias', save the file, start a new terminal and run 'update'
[10:36] <eneska18> jest tu jakis polak ????
[10:36] <nanotube> nomad111, its easiest to just run synaptic
[10:37] <nanotube> nomad111, synaptic is a gui based package manager
[10:37] <amphi> !tell eneska18 about pl
[10:37] <nomad111> k
[10:37] <dooglus> how can I blank my swap partition?
[10:37] <nanotube> dooglus, why do you need to do that?
[10:37] <eneska18> co pl
[10:37] <nomad111> dooglus, where do i add the line u told me to add
[10:37] <dooglus> nanotube: it's full of sensitive data that I would like to clean out when I shut down
[10:37] <BlazedForever> configure: WARNING: *** No OpenGL found.
[10:37] <BlazedForever>                 projectm plugin will not be built.
[10:37] <BlazedForever>       what the heck now :(
[10:37] <heliotrope> this is now officially my 2nd day with Ubuntu
[10:37] <dooglus> nomad111: right at the end is fine
[10:37] <nomad111> dooglus, thx
[10:38] <nanotube> heliotrope, nice. :) its just about the start of my 2nd month
[10:38] <BlazedForever> doesent ubuntu come with OpenGL?
[10:38] <eneska18> jest moze ktos z polski ???????
[10:38] <heliotrope> nanotube, haha awesome, i've been in shock and awe over the multiple workspaces lol
[10:38] <monzie> can someone please help me with subversion..
[10:38] <monzie> i am required to check out a module
[10:38] <monzie> i have the url , but dont know how to do it
[10:38] <heliotrope> nanotube, im running different things just to put in the other spaces
[10:39] <monzie> please help somebody
[10:39] <nomad111> dooglus, sudo: apt-file: command not found
[10:39] <nanotube> dooglus, you would probably want to boot from a cd, and then use the "shred" command
[10:39] <nanotube> (man shred for more details)
[10:39] <monzie> can someone please tell me how to retrieve a module from subversion
[10:39] <ompaul> dooglus, get more ram emm you need to write an ap that turns swap off and and then does the formatting thing would most likely be the most effective, then incorporate it in the shutdown squence
[10:39] <monzie><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:40] <dooglus> nomad111: if you don't use apt-file, you can remove the first part
[10:40] <nanotube> monzie, probably if you install the subversion package from the repositories, you can then check out stuff
[10:40] <dooglus> nomad111: or just install apt-file
[10:40] <nanotube> dooglus, oo, whats apt-file?
[10:40] <nomad111> dooglus, apt-get install apt-file right?
[10:40] <monzie> i have installed subversion nanotube , how do i get stuff?
[10:40] <dooglus> nanotube: it's a way of finding which package provides a given file
[10:40] <amphi> dooglus: you want to zero out your swap partition?
[10:40] <dooglus> nanotube: right.
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: I do.  on shutdown.
[10:41] <monzie> man svn does not help
[10:41] <amphi> dooglus: _every_ shutdown ?
[10:41] <nanotube> monzie, i am not sure about subversion, i just use cvs... but svn is supposedly pretty similar to cvs. if you go to google and search for 'subversion tutorial' probably you can find good stuff
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: otherwise my passphrase and such like is stored in it while the PC is off.
[10:41] <xerophyte> does anybody know any free cisco iso simulation??
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: sure.
[10:41] <amphi> dooglus: passphrase from what? gpg?
[10:41] <ompaul> dooglus, apt-cache search X or show X
[10:41] <dooglus> amphi: what's the point of using encrypted filesystems if the passphrase is saved in clear text in the swap partition?
[10:42] <dooglus> amphi: all passphrases, passwords, etc.
[10:42] <dooglus> amphi: anything that gets into RAM can potentially end up in the swap partition in clear text.
[10:42] <nanotube> dooglus, arey ou sure those things are saved in the swap? afaik, gpg and pals usually take pains toavoid that
[10:42] <amphi> dooglus: no, not anything
[10:42] <dooglus> ompaul: what are you telling me?
[10:42] <monzie> is there any way to install the Ubuntu Live CD to hard disk?
[10:43] <amphi> dooglus: memory can be allocated that's flagged not to be paged out
[10:43] <ompaul> dooglus, apt-cache search X or show X - to find where a package came from
[10:43] <amphi> dooglus: a better solution would be encrypted swap IMHO
[10:43] <nanotube> monzie, hmm, not sure... i think its best to just get the ubuntu install cd for installation, instead.
[10:43] <monzie> is there any way to install the Ubuntu Live CD to hard disk?
[10:43] <dooglus> nanotube: ok, gpg may well make sure it doesn't swap out my pass phrase.  but is open office going to make sure it doesn't swap out the document it's editing, which was encrypted with gpg?
[10:43] <dooglus> amphi: encrypted swap sounds slow...
[10:43] <ompaul> monzie, don't do that with 5.10, you will be able to with 6.04 when it is released (afik)
[10:43] <nanotube> dooglus, probably not. :)
[10:44] <heliotrope> whats the install command again?
[10:44] <amphi> dooglus: dd-ing /dev/zero over yr swap partition is going to make shutdown very time consuming
[10:44] <nomad111> U kno wat would really help the world, if someone could tell us how to auto-enable num-lock when ubuntu to starts
[10:44] <heliotrope> apt-get install?
[10:44] <amphi> dooglus: I doubt it makes that much odds
[10:44] <dooglus> ompaul: apt-file is for findinf out which package provides a given file.  even for packages you didn't install yet.  apt-cache can't do that.
[10:44] <Ng> nomad111: there's a package called numlockx that should do that
[10:44] <monzie> nanotube, https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntuliveinstaller-shellhack/+ticket/21
[10:44] <nomad111> thank you
[10:44] <monzie> and https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntuliveinstaller-shellhack/+series/1.2
[10:45] <amphi> dooglus: of course there's a performance hit, as for encrypted filesystems, but swap is so much slower than ram I doubt you'd notice
[10:45] <dooglus> amphi: I don't mind how long shutdown takes - 'cos I'll be out of the house at the time.  I tend to sit at the computer when I'm working, then initiate shutdown and leave.
[10:45] <nomad111> Ng, E: Couldn't find package numlockx
[10:45] <amphi> dooglus: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever
[10:45] <Snorkel> I have a dual boot (XP Ubuntu) machine. Is it possible to erase the XP partition and later add to the existing Ubuntu / partition.
[10:45] <dooglus> amphi: how would I go about encrypting swap on the fly then, so I can check out if it's slow?
[10:46] <amphi> dooglus: but if you do that, you'll need to mkswap each time you boot
[10:46] <rage__> Hey guys, anyone having trouble with the madwifi kernel modules surplied in the restricted modules package?
[10:46] <amphi> dooglus: google knows about encrypted swap
[10:46] <monzie> ok ompaul , and 6.04 releases in March?
[10:46] <nanotube> dooglus, see this thread http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0108.0/index.html#1394
[10:46] <nanotube> dooglus, might find it helpful
[10:46] <Ng> nomad111: ah, you'll need to enable the universe repository
[10:46] <Ng> !repositories
[10:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:46] <monzie> !livecd
[10:47] <nomad111> ye i just did thx
[10:47] <Ng> monzie: april
[10:47] <amphi> dooglus: I suppose you could dd from an offset into the swap device, so as not to destroy the swap signature or whatever it is that mkswap puts in there
[10:47] <monzie> hmm okay..
[10:47] <ompaul> monzie, 04 april
[10:47] <monzie> okay ompaul , is that like a confirmed date?
[10:48] <nomad111> i need to change the permission on my mounted ntfs folder how do i do that
[10:48] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:48] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <nomad111> coz i cant access it
[10:48] <ompaul> !dapper drake
[10:48] <ubotu> well, dapper drake is the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[10:48] <monzie> Ng, ompaul , i am working on an E17 based distro , tentatively to be called ENubuntu, focussing on pure eye candy
[10:49] <ompaul> monzie, 20th april
[10:49] <monzie> now there's two ways to do it 1) 2 cd
[10:49] <monzie> one install and one live
[10:49] <hangfire> will ubuntu install ATI drivers or only nVidea drivers?
[10:49] <Seveas> monzie, Ebuntu?
[10:49] <nanotube> Snorkel, yes it is possible. try using "gparted" to do that (install the package from synaptic)
[10:49] <nanotube> nomad111, its dangerous to play with ntfs filesystem from linux
[10:49] <monzie> and the other one is to have a combined live/install cd aka Knoppix
[10:49] <rowanjl> Hello, can anyone direct me to some info on getting my Soundblaster Live working with 5.1 sound?
[10:49] <monzie> yup, Seveas
[10:49] <nomad111> nanotube, i just want to access it
[10:49] <monzie> is that a project too Seveas , Ebuntu?
[10:50] <hangfire> anyone know if its easy to install ATI drivers on ubuntu?
[10:50] <Seveas> monzie, no, just a name for ENubuntu I would like more ;)
[10:50] <dooglus> amphi: thanks
[10:50] <monzie> i thought ENubuntu as it rhymed with Ubuntu, Kubuntu Edubuntu and Xubuntu...
[10:50] <dooglus> nomad111: are you OK with that alias now?
[10:51] <Snorkel> Ok thanx. I shall try so i get rid of windows and have a lot of disk space free
[10:51] <bart___> can anyone advice me on installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu ?
[10:51] <nomad111> dooglus, yes i removed apt-file from it
[10:51] <nomad111> dooglus, its fine
[10:51] <dooglus> nomad111: good
[10:51] <nomad111> dooglus, how do i ask ubotu questions
[10:52] <monzie> okay Seveas , i am about to post the name to the ubuntu-users and ubuntu-devel lists!
[10:53] <monzie> just type a "!" followed by a key word dooglus
[10:53] <nomad111> !mp3
[10:53] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <bart___> !nvidia
[10:53] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:53] <heliotrope> does ubuntu have a built in antivirus
[10:54] <rowanjl> !sblive
[10:54] <ubotu> rowanjl: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <hangfire> you dont need antivirus with Linux
[10:54] <rage__> anyone familia with festival here?
[10:54] <heliotrope> oh sweet
[10:54] <Angel_Dex> hello
[10:54] <heliotrope>  = noob
[10:54] <heliotrope> how come you dont?
[10:55] <Hysty> heliotrope, pretty sure there aint viruses for linux
[10:55] <hangfire> go to the nastiest porn sites on Linux and you wont pick up one piece of spyware
[10:55] <bart___> there are virusses for linux, but very few
[10:55] <heliotrope> are they just harder to make?
[10:55] <Angel_Dex> why is there few tho>?
[10:55] <Hysty> there you go
[10:55] <hangfire> because all the viruses are written for windows
[10:55] <Hysty> bart___, wasnt sure on that one
[10:55] <Sp4rKy> can i start my computer over qemu ?
[10:55] <bart___> heliotrope: no because most virus makers focus on the masses
[10:56] <Hysty> and the open and vunerable windows
[10:56] <bart___> heliotrope, as soon as ubuntu becomes main stream that most likely will change
[10:56] <Angel_Dex> bart___ sad to think aboutno?
[10:56] <Ribs> *if* Ubuntu becomes mainstream
[10:56] <heliotrope> bart___, am i safe from what viruses there are for linux atm?
[10:56] <amphi> Sp4rKy: what do you mean?
[10:57] <nomad111> !ntfs
[10:57] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:57] <bart___> heliotrope, as far as I know you are
[10:57] <nomad111> !permissions
[10:57] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[10:57] <heliotrope> bart___, ok thanks
[10:57] <Angel_Dex> why cant i find a good icon for Xwine
[10:57] <Angel_Dex> @.@
[10:57] <hangfire> does Linux have a defragment feature like windows?'
[10:57] <Angel_Dex> no need
[10:57] <nacho_> ubunti espaol
[10:57] <nacho_> espaol ??
[10:57] <rowanjl> does linux have a crap filesystem like windows?
[10:57] <rowanjl> ...
[10:57] <BlazedForever> Hey can someone reccomend a good hard drive repair and/or diagnostic tool , one that will fix bad sectors,corrupted partitions etc.
[10:58] <Ng> hangfire: no, the filesystem takes steps to minimise the effects of fragmentation
[10:58] <Seveas> !es
[10:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:58] <Ribs> rowanjl: define "crap filesystem"
[10:58] <Hysty> hangfire, linux doesnt fragment
[10:58] <hangfire> no, Linux doesnt even have a registry like windows
[10:58] <bart___> hangfire, defrag is not needed anymore on nfts as such, its an old thing from the old windows days far gone
[10:58] <rowanjl> Ribs, Fat.
[10:58] <Ng> Hysty: yes it does, but not as much
[10:58] <manty> So is a firewall really necessary on linux?
[10:58] <Seveas> hangfire, well actually it has
[10:58] <Ribs> rowanjl: It can read/write fat32 partitions, but doesn't use them nativley
[10:58] <rowanjl> Ribs, thats not a real question btw
[10:58] <Seveas> hangfire, /etc could count as a registry and gconf definitely is one
[10:58] <Ribs> erm, okay
[10:58] <Hysty> Ng, well yes but compared to the old windows I would reckon it was neglible
[10:58] <hangfire> bart, didnt know that, I thought defragement was still important on winXP
[10:59] <rage__> hangfire, There might be less of a virus threat with linux. But its pretty important to keep everything upto date
[10:59] <heliotrope> hangfire, defrag is important on winxp
[10:59] <rowanjl> Ribs, it was in relation to hangfires question about defragmenting
[10:59] <Angel_Dex> yeah it is
[10:59] <rowanjl> Can anyone help me with my soundcard?
[10:59] <hangfire> well /etc is like where they store .dlls
[10:59] <bart___> hangfire, you can defrag on XP, but MS advocates NTFS does not need it to stay well performing, sure it cleans things up but old systems needed defrag to keep performing since its non journaled
[10:59] <hangfire> then why do you say defrag is not important on ntfs?
[11:00] <Angel_Dex> bart___ Actually Not defraging a system is a VERY bad idea even on XP
[11:00] <bart___> Angel_Dex, not really :)
[11:00] <heliotrope> what time is it for all of you, its like 4am here haha
[11:00] <hangfire> so then does Linux have any kind of defrag feature?
[11:00] <Hysty> 9pm here
[11:01] <Ribs> hangfire: no, it doesn't need one
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> i ran windows enough to know if you dont defrag a computer when it need be you can get unstability
[11:01] <hangfire> 4am here to
[11:01] <Ng> hangfire: there are tools that can do it, but you generally don't need it
[11:01] <G0SUB> hangfire: it doesn't need one
[11:01] <Angel_Dex> and slugishness
[11:01] <Hysty> fschk
[11:01] <G0SUB> fsck
[11:01] <hangfire> ok, thx, thats good to know
[11:01] <Ribs> I thought fsck just checked the filesystem?
[11:01] <amphi> Seveas: well, dunno about /etc - one of the worst things about the windows registry is that it's opaque binary data mostly
[11:01] <Ribs> didn't think it defragged it
[11:01] <bart___> Ribs, correct
[11:01] <Ng> Ribs: correct
[11:01] <Hysty> no it doesnt
[11:01] <Ng> "defrag" defrags ext filesystems
[11:02] <Hysty> its about all you need to do really tho
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> worst thing about windows? non-RASIS/POSIX compliant
[11:02] <bart___> agreed on POSIX :)
[11:02] <Angel_Dex> worst thing about windows um *cough* is that its windows
[11:02] <ccooke> Ribs: fsck will report on fragmentation.
[11:02] <rage__> Cygwin ;)
[11:02] <andyjstormont> How do I stop getting permison denied?
[11:02] <rage__> linux-kernel.exe
[11:02] <rage__> sudo
[11:03] <hangfire> enter root access
[11:03] <heliotrope> the worst thing about windows is they make you pay for that crap
[11:03] <rage__> SuperUser
[11:03] <Hysty> heliotrope, indeed
[11:03] <BlazedForever> Hey can someone reccomend a good hard drive repair and/or diagnostic tool , one that will fix bad sectors,corrupted partitions etc.
[11:03] <monzie> Ebuntu should be online in 24 hrs!
[11:03] <andyjstormont> I still get it as su.  I have been having this problem ever since I added an acount for my brother.
[11:03] <Hysty> heliotrope, i want a refund on my win95 floppy disk installation set
[11:03] <monzie> e2fsck BlazedForever
[11:04] <monzie> and parted
[11:04] <ctd> ebuntu?
[11:04] <OmegaAlpha> hey
[11:04] <OmegaAlpha> got a big prob
[11:04] <amphi> BlazedForever: if you see bad sectors on a modern hd, it's dying
[11:04] <heliotrope> hysty, just set it on fire on bill gates door step
[11:04] <rewt_> finally
[11:04] <rewt_> lol
[11:04] <rewt_> well that didnt work
[11:04] <rewt_> :-P
[11:04] <Hysty> heliotrope, heh
[11:05] <manty> So is a firewall really necessary on linux?
[11:05] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, got a problem
[11:05] <Angel_Dex> manty yeah? a firewalls needed nomatter what OS
[11:05] <OmegaAlpha> cant get on linux...
[11:05] <Ng> manty: if you have any network servers listening, yes, otherwise no
[11:05] <heliotrope> how do i interact with my windows network with ubuntu?
[11:05] <manty> ok thanks
[11:05] <Sp4rKy> how could i start my pc over qemu ?
[11:05] <Hysty> manty, i would say yes
[11:05] <bart___> manty, yes but not as urgently as on windows I think
[11:05] <Angel_Dex> who would run without a firewall @.@
[11:06] <manty> so how do i set firestarter to load at bot automatically?
[11:06] <manty> boot
[11:06] <bimberi> BlazedForever: HDD manufacturers usually distribute one of their own (eg. Seagate Seatools) - check your HDD manufacturers website
[11:06] <rewt_> nano is gone?
[11:07] <heliotrope> I have a windows wireless network and was wondering if i could browse shared files on my windows computer with ubuntu?
[11:07] <Angel_Dex> How do i persue a friend into using Ubuntu? hes leaning towards debian unstable/fedora
[11:07] <bart___> rewt_, nano works fine here for me
[11:07] <rage__> mant, sudo apt-get install rcconf && man rcconf
[11:07] <nitishp> Angel_Dex: Get him/her the free CDs.
[11:07] <rewt_> if im writing a command to start my card how would i write a command to conect to a certain essid?
[11:07] <manty> rage__: was that for me?
[11:07] <Angel_Dex> nitishp he downloaded it all
[11:08] <rewt_> im writing a script to start my wireless card
[11:08] <rage__> rcconf - Debian Runlevel configuration tool
[11:08] <rewt_> #!/bin/bash
[11:08] <rewt_> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:08] <rewt_> that's the script so far
[11:08] <liable> rewt_: thats what interfaces file is for..
[11:08] <Angel_Dex> nitishp if he can make it less restricted and noob friendly i think hed use it
[11:08] <rewt_> liable....i cant figure it out on here
[11:08] <rewt_> see im using my integrated wirelss
[11:08] <Hysty> Angel_Dex, tell them to check out the Live CD first
[11:08] <rewt_> and my wireless button doesnt work right
[11:08] <rewt_> well not in linux that is
[11:09] <heliotrope> i had to go through a ton of stuff to get wireless working :
[11:09] <Angel_Dex> Hysty did
[11:09] <rage__> iwconfig channel 4 essid blah frag 512 mode foo
[11:09] <heliotrope> i dont even know how i did it anymore
[11:09] <rewt_> if I manually turn on the card and push the buttn to turn it off then push it again to turn it back on, it wont come on by button
[11:09] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to edit xorg.conf from root terminal?
[11:09] <Angel_Dex> Hysty Hes trying to learn linux and wants a good stable OS thats not made for noobs
[11:09] <liable> rewt_: /etc/network/interfaces, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[11:09] <glick> excuse me how do you rotate a figure in dia?
[11:09] <rage__> The version of madwifi ubuntu came with doesnt seem to like my wifi card:(
[11:09] <bart___> !chm
[11:09] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bart___
[11:10] <rage__> I might have to remove the restricted modules and compile it up from scratch
[11:10] <heliotrope> anyone know how i can browse my windows computer on my network with ubuntu?
[11:10] <Hysty> Angel_Dex, thats not made for noobs?
[11:10] <Hysty> heliotrope, samba