[12:12] <cpk1> alex__: I think I was having this problem before... is there anything in the plugins directory in .mozilla?
[12:12] <blizzzek> indeed, it is kinda red here ;)
[12:12] <sbaush> nosrednaekim: have you ideas?
[12:12] <cpk1> !ask | pappy_
[12:12] <ubotu> pappy_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:12] <alex__> no I don't think I have a .mozila
[12:12] <alex__> only a ~/.mozilla
[12:13] <pappy_> somehow i manage to screw my apt rep
[12:13] <cpk1> alex__: thats what I meant
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> sbaush: nope
[12:13] <alex__> oh
[12:13] <tarnold> this is ridiculus my screens not proportional anymore
[12:13] <tarnold> what do i do?
[12:13] <alex__> yeah there is
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: what kind of video chipset do you have?
[12:13] <tarnold> nvidia i think
[12:13] <alex__> 1) flashplayer-installer 2) flashplayer.xpt 3)libflashplayer.so and 4)readme.txt
[12:13] <tarnold> it never did this before
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: so explain your problem better...
[12:14] <alex__> but firefox just isn't takeing notice or something
[12:14] <yuki>  I am unable to connect to a wireless network using WEP, but connecting to an unencrypted WLAN works like a charm.  Does anyone have an idea of how to fix that? :P
[12:15] <alonea> yay! I got it to work!
[12:15] <tarnold> the defualt view is somewhere  in teh middle of the screen, and to get to the kicker, i have to drag my mouse down and to see the rest of the kicker i have to drag it to the right\
[12:15] <cpk1> alex__: what does it say you have for flash when you go to about:plugins in firefox?
[12:15] <alex__> no
[12:15] <utnubuk> is anybody aware of a skippy type package that doesnt use a hotkey, but works when the mouse is moved to a corner of the screen?
[12:15] <alonea> Ok, someone told me about a superuser or root or something file system viewer but I dont see it here in Kubuntu.
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: ahh ok.... did you try restarting X?
[12:15] <pappy_> guys .. and gals can someone tell me how to restore the original repository?
[12:15] <tarnold> no
[12:15] <cpk1> !easysource | pappy_
[12:15] <ubotu> pappy_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:15] <tarnold> how do i do that
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> alonea  just do "kdesu konqueror"
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: do that...and if it doesn't fix it...come back
[12:16] <tarnold> ok, how do i do that though?
[12:16] <alonea> nosrednaekim: yeah, that thing. Is there a link to it somewhere or do I just have to make a button myself with that command?
[12:16] <tarnold> is there a man page for restarting x?
[12:16] <stdin> !X
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: logout and ctrl alt bkspce
[12:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:16] <tarnold> ok
[12:18] <pappy_> i did this what i must do next?
[12:20] <tarnold> nosrednaekim: i hit control alt backspace, and its still the persisting
[12:20] <tarnold> hey all im back, i tried restarting X but to no avail
[12:21] <tarnold> !x
[12:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:21] <stdin> tarnold: To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart  in a console
[12:21] <pappy_> guys do u know where i have to copy teh outpout from  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[12:22] <stdin> pappy_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:22] <pappy_> great thx
[12:22] <tarnold> ok
[12:22] <tarnold> stdin: ill try that
[12:25] <pappy_> thx guys it worked
[12:26] <stukreit> greetings, all. I would like to know how to reconfigure an unbuntu install to start up the window system, kubuntu or whatever. (this is because installation was failing when I selected kubuntu from the start)
[12:27] <Minataku> I know it's off topic, but I urge everyone to join me in a boycott of all holdings and assets of Viacom in response to their incredibly asinine lawsuit against YouTube/Google in the amount of one billion USD for copyright infringement
[12:27] <pappy_> is it easy to install beryl?
[12:27] <stdin> pappy_: are you on edgy or dapper?
[12:27] <pappy_> edgy
[12:27] <stdin> pappy_: then it's really quite easy
[12:28] <stdin> pappy_: what's your graphics hardware?
[12:28] <pappy_> and how do i do this?
[12:28] <pappy_> it's a Gforce 7600GS 256 MB
[12:29] <stdin> that's nvidia isn't it?
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> YES
[12:29] <pappy_> yes
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, sorry
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure you get the newest drivers.  i didn't and regret it
[12:29] <Ashex|Work> !beryl
[12:29] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:30] <Ashex|Work> I recommend using automatix bleeder to get it going
[12:30] <Ashex|Work> http://www.getautomatix.com
[12:30] <stdin> NO!
[12:30] <Minataku> !automatix
[12:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:30] <Ashex|Work> no?
[12:30] <stdin> don't use that god damn software
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> automatix is the devil
[12:30] <scribz> yeah automatix sucketh much
[12:30] <tarnold> stdin: i typed in that command and then the computer went black with an underscore that was blinking and i  hit the power button, the pc powered off and when i restarted it came up with the same mest up borders/ scrolling features
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> normally i'd say something about language, but in this case, it's appropriate
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> and DEFINITELY don't use the bleeder
[12:31] <pappy_> i think i have the latest drivers. is there a way to see what version i have?
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i suggest we program the bot to not let anyone use the A word in this channel
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> because it will screw you six ways to sunday
[12:31] <Minataku> Just have it trigger on that word with a warning
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Minataku: ya
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> pappy_: got an nvidia control panel?
[12:31] <pappy_> nope
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> odd
[12:32] <pappy_> which is strange i think
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> system > nvidia x server settings (by default)
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have to get them from nvidia's site anyhow
[12:32] <pappy_> no i don't have this
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> use the aiglx howto
[12:33] <tarnold> does anyone know what i should do now?
[12:33] <tarnold> am i lost beyond hope?
[12:34] <pappy_> nobody is lost like that. there iis always hope
[12:34] <tarnold> well my laptop the screen goes off the edges
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[12:35] <Minataku> tarnold: Are you using the VESA framebuffer driver?
[12:35] <tarnold> idk
[12:35] <Minataku> I know my system had issues with the tridentfb driver, everything was all messed up
[12:36] <tarnold> i hit suspend last night and it did nothign then hit the power button and when i restarted tonight it came on all funky like this
[12:36] <utnubuk> How make a package initialize at login??
[12:36] <utnubuk> if that makes any sense...
[12:37] <Minataku> tarnold: Shut it down and let it sit for a minute or two
[12:37] <Minataku> Full shutdown, sudo shutdown -h now
[12:37] <tarnold> ok
[12:38] <tarnold> what happens if it doesn't work then?
[12:38] <Minataku> tarnold: Come back
[12:38] <Minataku> lol
[12:38] <tarnold> ok
[12:39] <tarnold> hey it said time expected
[12:39] <tarnold> its not shutting down
[12:40] <Morvok> anyone have idea's for powering a homemade rack? this isn't all that off topic becuase most of the hardware runs (k)ubuntu
[12:41] <firemonkeyballz> what kind of hardware are you thinking of?
[12:42] <Morvok> assortment of about 50 mobo's. I can run 4 boards of one psu. but wiring them (cut + splice) and all that wire looks to be expensive and time consuming.
[12:43] <Ashex|Work> use a low-power psu for each (350W will work) to avoid overloading your circuit. a ups would be a good idea depending on how stable your power is
[12:44] <firemonkeyballz> morvok arent there any mobos you can dasy chain?
[12:44] <sparr> there is a kde screensaver named "Polyhedra", it shows 3d animated polyhedra along with all their specs (faces, vertices, edges, euler number, wythoff symbol, symmetry, etc).  is there any where/way i can get that information and imagery in a less random fashion?  not on wikipedia or mathworld :(
[12:45] <Morvok> fireMonkeyballz: not really. another from a p100 to p4's some sparcs and couple makes. my aphla and hppa will stay in there cases.
[12:45] <bobesponja> a friend of mine just installed kUbuntu, can I ssh to his computer or does he need to install ssh or something?
[12:45] <Ashex|Work> sudo apt-get install openssh
[12:45] <kilian> anyone knows how to poweroff the system with kdelirc?
[12:46] <bobesponja> Ashex|Work: thanx
[12:46] <firemonkeyballz> umm cant remmeber the client program that windows/linux used for secure shelll
[12:46] <firemonkeyballz> I'lll have to go over my notes
[12:47] <cpk1> kilian: you have a remote control for your computer?
[12:47] <kilian> jes
[12:47] <Morvok> do they make extensions for mobo power cords?
[12:48] <Morvok> hrm.. *checks star tech.
[12:48] <tarnold> stdin: its still not working
[12:48] <kilian> and i want to use it for shutting down
[12:48] <tarnold> it looks like it didn't even shut down
[12:49] <tarnold> stdin: when it came back up the konsole, and gaim i had running also appeared
[12:49] <cpk1> kilian: where did you get the remote and how well does it work? I am interested in getting one
[12:50] <kilian> cpk1: take a loog at www.lirc.org
[12:50] <ghetek> how do i use the autostart?
[12:50] <stdin> tarnold: try "sudo shutdown -hP now" to power off
[12:51] <stdin> !autostart | ghetek
[12:51] <ubotu> ghetek: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:51] <cpk1> kilian: alright thank you =)
[12:51] <tarnold> stdin: stdin: ok, trying that
[12:53] <ghetek> stdin: im using the gui application
[12:53] <ghetek> and it all seems to be ok, but when i restart i just get an error
[12:54] <stdin> what error is it?
[12:54] <ghetek> i dont know, i would have to restart
[12:54] <stdin> what are you trying to autostart ?
[12:54] <ghetek> if i pastebin the file in .kde/autostart could you troubleshoot it?
[12:54] <stdin> yeah, I'll give it a go
[12:55] <Kr4t05> Anyone in here successfully gotten the Wii Remote to work with CWiid?
[12:55] <ghetek> !pastebin
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:56] <firemonkeyballz> hey how do you reset the kdewallet?
[12:56] <firemonkeyballz> I forgot my password
[12:57] <ghetek> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10287/
[12:57] <surgy> ok guys
[12:57] <Ashex|Work> firemonkeyballz, I'm a little foggy, but it's in system settings
[12:58] <Ashex|Work> you can delete the wallet and create a new one
[12:58] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[12:58] <surgy> i dont mean to start a flame war but i need to format my both of my hard drives including the one with kubuntu im trying to switch to fedora
[12:59] <ForgeAus> surgy so whats the problem?
[12:59] <Morbo> The fedora install CD will have a partitioner, surgy
[12:59] <firemonkeyballz> k found it ashex.... does kopote need it to run or can I turn it off?
[12:59] <surgy> but kubuntu is messing with my install, so i need to format that hard drive and my fedora hard drive, im currently in my rescue environment on fedora anyone wanna help?
[12:59] <surgy> morbo: it doesnt show my hdds right
[12:59] <Morbo> #fedora, surgy?
[12:59] <ForgeAus> is the fedore a live CD?
[01:00] <surgy> fedora is not a live cd and im in #fedora, they sent me to you guys to help me get rid of kubuntu
[01:00] <Morbo> surgy: It's their problem if you're using their partitioner
[01:00] <stdin> ghetek: do you have to enter a password to mount it?
[01:01] <ghetek> stdin: no i already ran ssh-keygen and when in konsole i just enter that command to mount it
[01:01] <Ashex|Work> firemonkeyballz, it stores the accounts in kwallet
[01:01] <surgy> morbo: unless the kubuntu partitioner screwed it up so the fedora partitioner cant mess with it
[01:01] <Ashex|Work> so if you delete the wallet, you'll need to setup your accounts again
[01:01] <firemonkeyballz> yey
[01:01] <stdin> ghetek: ok, try replacing that with a shell script, rather than a .desktop file
[01:01] <ghetek> stdin: just drop it into that autostart durectory?
[01:02] <ghetek> *directory
[01:02] <Ashex|Work> firemonkeyballz, you may also want to delete the contents of .kde/share/apps/kopete
[01:02] <stdin> ghetek: yeah, like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10288/ , just make sure it's set as executable and it will run
[01:02] <Ashex|Work> I had some issues with kwallet awhile back and had to recreate my wallet
[01:03] <Ashex|Work> kopete flipped out by trying to use the contacts list it had stored, but for some reason I ended up with duplicates in aim
[01:03] <tarnold> ok
[01:03] <tarnold> well my screen is still wack
[01:03] <firemonkeyballz> ashex is that in the home folder?
[01:04] <Ashex|Work> firemonkeyballz, yes
[01:04] <tarnold> i can't tell if the pc is even shutting down
[01:04] <Ashex|Work> sorry, I left the ~/ off
[01:04] <tarnold> both gaim and the konsole and konversation now appear on startup wheras they didn't before
[01:04] <tarnold> this is bollacks
[01:04] <ghetek> thanks stdin
[01:04] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, in the system settings you can set it to startup with a clean session
[01:05] <tarnold> okl
[01:05] <Ashex|Work> or a saved session
[01:05] <tarnold> kmenu-->system settings?
[01:05] <stdin> ghetek: no problem  :-)
[01:05] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, yes
[01:05] <tarnold> where from there?
[01:05] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, one second
[01:05] <Jucato> tarnold: you can also quit those apps before  you logout
[01:05] <Ashex|Work> I need to remote to my desktop :p
[01:05] <ghetek> hey guys, is there any way to reduce the security in kubuntu? i shouldnt need to reenter a password whenever i switch wireless networks or play wih printers. can i just add my self to the sudo group or something?
[01:05] <Jucato> System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[01:05] <Ashex|Work> thanks Jucato
[01:06] <tarnold> didn't realize that, ok
[01:06] <tarnold> going to session manager now
[01:06] <tarnold> anyone got a lock on my other screen size/having to scroll around issue
[01:07] <stdin> ghetek: yeah, I add my self to the sudo group and I don't need to enter a password to use sudo. Just make sure you have a strong password and lock your session when you're not using it
[01:07] <Ashex|Work> !twinview
[01:07] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:07] <ghetek> stdin: is that through kcontrol?
[01:08] <ghetek> stdin: or is that a commandline thing?
[01:08] <tarnold> but ive only got one laptop display...does it think its two seperate screens? im about to reboot into windows
[01:08] <tarnold> i don't want too though....:(
[01:08] <stdin> ghetek: kcontrol, system settings, what ever you want, just add yourself to the "sudo" group. You'll need to logout and back in for the changes to take effect tho
[01:10] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, I don't quite understand your issue, can you reiterate?
[01:10] <tarnold> if i take a screen shot can i copy it into pastebin?
[01:10] <tarnold> so you might see what im talking about? since i guess my words aren't a good enough picture
[01:10] <Ashex|Work> yeah, but I don't think pastebin takes pictures
[01:11] <ghetek> stdin: testing it out! restarting.
[01:11] <Ashex|Work> use imageshack or something along those lines
[01:11] <tarnold> no use copy
[01:11] <firemonkeyballz> ashex this folder? /home/firemonkeyballz/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[01:11] <tarnold> well idk have image shack
[01:11] <stdin> ghetek: you don't need to restart
[01:11] <stdin> ghetek: just logout and back in
[01:11] <tarnold> k ill try to use words
[01:11] <stdin> tarnold: use http://imageshack.us to post images to
[01:12] <tarnold> my screen is not bound by my desktop its not all there at once and to see my clock on the kicker i have to move the mouse right...
[01:12] <Ashex|Work> firemonkeyballz, yes
[01:12] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, Ah
[01:12] <tarnold> to see the .db file for skype id downloaded that is in the upper left of my desktop i have to move the mouse up and to left
[01:12] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, so you're saying the display is larger then your screen?
[01:12] <neptunepink> tarnold: Your desktop is bigger than your screen, and if you move your mouse over to the side, it moves, and maybe something happens if you press ctrl-alt-+?
[01:12] <tarnold> yes
[01:12] <tarnold> thats it
[01:12] <alonea> ok, its kdesu konqueror right? i dont see it loading anything..
[01:13] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, do you have a widescreen laptop?
[01:13] <tarnold> yes
[01:13] <Ashex|Work> !resolution | tarnold
[01:13] <ubotu> tarnold: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:13] <firemonkeyballz> ok one other thing cant get it to connect to aim
[01:13] <tarnold> 17 inch
[01:13] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, widescreen by chance?
[01:13] <Ashex|Work> check that link mentioned above
[01:13] <tarnold> now ive tried restarting x and i don't think it did anything
[01:13] <tarnold> i think its widescreen
[01:14] <Ashex|Work> what was the resolution in windows?
[01:14] <tarnold> at least the box and all literature about it said its a widescreen
[01:14] <tarnold> ive forgot
[01:14] <tarnold> it was the max though
[01:14] <Ashex|Work> okay
[01:14] <alonea> 1440 by 800 i think tarnold?
[01:14] <Ashex|Work> take a look at the link from ubotu
[01:14] <Ashex|Work> 1440x900 is widescreen
[01:14] <tarnold> alonea: possibly
[01:14] <tarnold> how can i find out what it is in linux?
[01:14] <alonea> 900! there we go. I have same size screen as that.
[01:15] <Ashex|Work> system settings>display
[01:15] <firemonkeyballz> kopete cant connect to aim
[01:16] <tarnold> huh
[01:16] <tarnold> hey all when i hit take screenshot
[01:16] <tarnold> from teh graphics icon in kmenu, the little preview that came up was everyhting from teh kmenu to the shortcut for my usb drive, to the clock at the other end of the kicker
[01:17] <tarnold> ok so what do i do?
[01:17] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, that's because it's taking a shot of your entire desktop, not just the viewable desktop
[01:17] <tarnold> is there something i can do?
[01:17] <tarnold> oh
[01:17] <firemonkeyballz> eh.. screw this... gonna use wine and trillian
[01:17] <Ashex|Work> !resolution>tarnold
[01:18] <firemonkeyballz> !wine
[01:18] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:18] <Ashex|Work> firemonkeyballz, running trillian under wine is just...retarded
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> just use kopete.  much more elegant :D
[01:19] <jake__> ubotu: my adept crashed, i forgot the command. thanx
[01:19] <tarnold> ashex|work:ive tried restarting X and all i got is a blank screen with an underscore blinking and it did nothing and i then had to hold down the power button to turn it off
[01:20] <bxnp> guys i am building a program with apt-build
[01:20] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <tarnold> ok whats that do?
[01:20] <bxnp> is it a problem if i abort that build
[01:20] <alonea> ok, mplayer is asking for gtk devel packages, what is the name on adept?
[01:20] <stdin> !aptfix | jake__
[01:20] <ubotu> jake__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:20] <arassi> newbie - looking for kubuntu repositories???
[01:20] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, check that link ubotu gave you
[01:20] <tarnold> i did
[01:20] <firemonkeyballz> ashex it kopete wont connect to aim
[01:20] <jake__> thanx]
[01:20] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, it reconfigures xorg to use the proper resolution
[01:20] <tarnold> god i must be really stupid
[01:20] <tarnold> ok
[01:21] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, just make sure you select 1440x900 as your resolution
[01:21] <arassi> newbie - looking for kubuntu repositories???
[01:21] <Ashex|Work> if your screen is a wide
[01:21] <tarnold> k
[01:21] <tarnold> i believe so
[01:21] <Ashex|Work> !repositories > arassi
[01:21] <tarnold> can anyone say why htis might have happened?
[01:21] <stdin> arassi: for what?
[01:21] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, video with laptop is a little tricky
[01:22] <Ashex|Work> Xorg is supposed to detect the video card and monitor and then generate an xorg.conf to match
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> !repositories | arassi
[01:22] <ubotu> arassi: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:22] <tarnold> ah
[01:22] <stdin> tarnold: you choose a resolution that your monitor can't support
[01:22] <arassi> thanx  Ashex|Work
[01:22] <tarnold> huh cos i never chose one before
[01:22] <Ashex|Work> however, with laptops they use proprietary names, so Xorg can sometimes screw up
[01:22] <Ashex|Work> it does it on install
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> does > work with bot commands?
[01:23] <Ashex|Work> no problem arassi :)
[01:23] <stdin> tarnold: well, the xorg configure script chose one then :P
[01:23] <Ashex|Work> Daisuke_Ido, yup. it will pm the target
[01:23] <Ashex|Work> keeps the channel clean
[01:23] <tarnold> hey  how do i know what x xerver driver i have?
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ah.  now i feel like a retard :D
[01:23] <Ashex|Work> do you have an nvidia or ati chipset?
[01:23] <tarnold> it lists all these options..tseng, vesa, vga, via, vmware, voodoo...?
[01:23] <Ashex|Work> !video
[01:23] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:24] <Ashex|Work> er
[01:24] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: you can also do "ubotu: tell Person about Thing", that's the same as "thing > Person"
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[01:24] <tarnold> if ive an nvidia graphics card would that be what i want?
[01:24] <Jucato> !xconfig
[01:24] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[01:24] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, select nv if you have an nvidia graphics card
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: do you have the nvidia binary driver installed?
[01:24] <Ashex|Work> it's usually best to install the binary driver for nvidia
[01:24] <tarnold> idk
[01:24] <tarnold> christ
[01:24] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, select nv
[01:24] <tarnold> ok
[01:25] <tarnold> thanks
[01:25] <Ashex|Work> nosrednaekim, I got it :)
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> Ashex|Work: got what?
[01:25] <tarnold> see first time this has come up since i installed kubuntu hence be being a bit vexed, considering ive 3 papers to write in 2 days
[01:26] <Ashex|Work> nosrednaekim, cheese!
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> oh.. you got tarnold ok..;)
[01:26] <tarnold> ahh hah
[01:26] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, no worries, We'll get this figured out
[01:26] <Ashex|Work> albeit, you had bad timing in installing kubuntu when you've got mucho homework :p
[01:26] <tarnold> can'
[01:26] <tarnold> can't type either, sorry
[01:27] <will> how come kaffeine dont play mp3 files by default? even with the codecs installed?
[01:27] <bordy240> Anyone know why WINE would give me a segmentation fault when I try to do a winecfg?
[01:27] <tarnold> ok how do i know what my graphics card is, im at the next step of identifier for your video card...
[01:27] <Ashex|Work> !wine > bordy240
[01:27] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, just hit enter
[01:27] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, when it comes to monitor, just accept the defaults until you get to resolutions
[01:28] <tarnold> solidsource: bout how do i change it to nvidea later
[01:28] <Ashex|Work> the only options we really want to modify are driver and resolution
[01:28] <tarnold> and how do i send messages to people
[01:28] <SolidSource> tarnold: you change it in the xorg.conf
[01:28] <lappy> tarnold let him help you with the issue at hand, your monitor
[01:28] <will> how come kaffeine dont play mp3 files by default? even with the codecs installed?
[01:28] <SolidSource> !register > tarnold
[01:29] <tarnold> solidsource: as in with a text editor?
[01:29] <Ashex|Work> will, you have to set mp3's to open in kaffeine
[01:29] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, yup
[01:29] <Ashex|Work> nano for cli, kate for gui
[01:30] <SolidSource> tarnold: use alt+f2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:30] <tarnold> its asking about PCI for video card
[01:30] <Ashex|Work> hookay, I'm assuming that SolidSource has got ya covered tarnold
[01:30] <SolidSource> tarnold: defaults
[01:30] <Ashex|Work> I'm going to head home :)
[01:30] <tarnold> solidsource: should i do that now, or wait till ive done monekying around iwht the command line?
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> ummm anyone know how to get easy ubuntu
[01:31] <tarnold> Ashex|Work: ok thank you
[01:31] <Ashex|Work> tarnold, one thing at a time
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> its session.in file to run again
[01:31] <lappy> firemonkey have you googled for it?
[01:31] <tarnold> solidsource: so just hit the defualts for pci bit?
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> google is weird
[01:31] <lappy> lol
[01:31] <lappy> ok
[01:31] <lappy> have you installed it already?
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> cant get accuate results
[01:31] <SolidSource> tarnold: yes, finish the configure with defaults...then once back into KDE we can change to nvidia
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> yes but it crashed at session.in
[01:31] <firemonkeyballz> after reboot
[01:31] <tarnold> SolidSource: ok
[01:32] <lappy> i don't know what that means
[01:32] <firemonkeyballz> supose to install the applications
[01:32] <lappy> did you get into KDE?
[01:32] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[01:32] <lappy> i know what easy ubuntu does...
[01:32] <lappy> ok back in KDE, click on your KMenu
[01:32] <tarnold> do i want to enable kernal framebuffer driver?
[01:33] <lappy> find Easy Ubuntu, and run it again, if needed.
[01:33] <tarnold> for anyoen following allong with me im still at the command line working my way through the configuring the xserver.org
[01:33] <will> can anyone tell me why Flash wont install via the installation box that comes up in Konqueror (Kubutu Feisty)
[01:34] <firemonkeyballz> sais everything is installed and cant run again
[01:34] <lappy> if not needed, you're done i guess...
[01:34] <lappy> so, what is the problem?
[01:34] <tarnold> SolidSource: do i want to enable the kernel's framebuffer driver?
[01:34] <Morvok> tarnold: wjats tthe problem?
[01:34] <SolidSource> tarnold: defaults...once nvidia-glx driver is initiated, it won't matter
[01:34] <lappy> tarnold: DEFAULTS
[01:34] <tarnold> yes sir
[01:34] <lappy> ;)
[01:34] <stdin> will: enable multiverse, and install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:34] <tarnold> or maam...leaving it on no and moving to next prompt aye aye
[01:35] <lappy> firemonkey what help are you asking for?
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> well at boot still sais Im using 6.06
[01:35] <lappy> AH
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> that or its incorrect info
[01:35] <lappy> and you want to upgrade to 6.10?
[01:35] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[01:35] <lappy> AH!
[01:36] <lappy> ok that's not an EasyUbuntu thing.  Its a Synaptic thing, or (best bet) a CDROM thing
[01:36] <lappy> Rather In KDE its an Adept thing, not Synaptic
[01:36] <will> stdin: im trying to keep a minimal install, flash-nonfree installs gtk stuff, so any other way to get it? (only have 535 installed packages :) )
[01:37] <firemonkeyballz> ok... but im running rather stable
[01:37] <lappy> will i'd say either use Automatix (maybe EasyUbuntu) and uninstall that when done with Flash, OR use Firefox to go to google video and use the automatic installer
[01:37] <delight> how can i find out to which package a certain file belongs ??
[01:37] <lappy> Firemonkey, if you're stable why upgrade?
[01:37] <xptical> hi all, I have a bit of a problem.  I'm in japan and the jp.archive keeps giving me an error when I apt-get update...can anyone help?
[01:37] <firemonkeyballz> im stable after running it
[01:37] <ForgeAus> automatix can be scary... be very careful with it
[01:38] <firemonkeyballz> it did install everything
[01:38] <Jucato> delight: dpkg -S <file> I think
[01:38] <lappy> running wha?
[01:38] <lappy> easy ubuntu?
[01:38] <firemonkeyballz> just didnt run session.in after reboot
[01:38] <Jucato> delight: or you can use apt:/ in Konqueror or go to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <firemonkeyballz> the python app crashed at reboot
[01:38] <ForgeAus> lappy its an installer of sorts
[01:38] <delight> Jucato: thnx i'll give it a shot
[01:38] <lappy> i don't know what that file is (session.in)
[01:38] <compilerwriter> It was a beautiful day for kite flying.
[01:38] <lappy> thanks ForgeAus!
[01:38] <ForgeAus> gtp program that has scripts to install proggies
[01:38] <ForgeAus> !easyubuntu
[01:38] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:38] <ForgeAus> !automatix
[01:38] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> so do I have 6.1
[01:39] <firemonkeyballz> ?
[01:39] <lappy> firemonkey can you open session.in with a text editor and figure out what it was trying to install?
[01:40] <stdin> will: flashplugin-nonfree shouldn't install any gtk stuff, what's it trying to install?
[01:40] <delight> Jucato: wow that apt:// looks great is it that think working local ? looks like a web-page
[01:40] <ForgeAus> is easyubuntu in the automatix2 proggy list?
[01:40] <tarnold> SolidSource: ok teh configureing in the command line finished
[01:40] <delight> hehe Offline search it says
[01:40] <firemonkeyballz> well techically I have the ati original drivers
[01:40] <delight> :-D realy impressed with it
[01:40] <lappy> Was it trying to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using EasyUbuntu?  I've never tried that, but I've heard horror stories about upgrading from a stable 6.06 to 6.10
[01:40] <SolidSource> tarnold: then you should be able to get into KDE GUI
[01:40] <Jucato> delight: half of it is working local, the other half directs you to the online page
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: what this about apt://
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> lappy seems to be fine
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> I downloaded and installed
[01:41] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: it's a kioslave in Konqueror for searching packages
[01:41] <lappy> what is fine??
[01:41] <ForgeAus> dapper -> edgy can be problematic... I don't know anythinga bout edgy -> feisty yet
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> just didnt install the programs or did
[01:41] <tarnold> what do you mean, ive been looking at my desktop the entire time, unless you mean oppening it up with kate?
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> im not sure
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: sweet...is it installed by default?
[01:41] <ForgeAus> Jucato did you get the lowdown on the distribution upgrade tool?
[01:41] <Jucato> on Kubuntu? yes
[01:41] <lappy> ok.  What is one of the programs that you wanted to install?
[01:41] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[01:41] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it's still in the works...
[01:42] <lappy> ok.  What is one of the programs that you wanted to install?
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> multimedia all checked
[01:42] <lappy> what does that include, what is one program
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> web just the videos
[01:42] <SolidSource> tarnold: umm ok...if you weren't having a graphical problem then running through that config was useless
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> archives
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> all
[01:42] <will> stdin: libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libcairo2 libatk1.0-0
[01:42] <tarnold> oh
[01:42] <lappy> please, name me a program!  I don't know wha EasyUbuntu does these days, my system is set
[01:42] <firemonkeyballz> and fonts  and the original ati driver
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> well theres easyubuntu 3.1 on their server
[01:43] <lappy> tarnold what are you asking to do?
[01:43] <stdin> will: ahh, so it does
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> just didnt run it
[01:43] <SolidSource> tarnold: open konsole and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"    to ensure its installed and coorect
[01:43] <lappy> Easyubuntu INSTALLS programs, name one that you CHECKED to INSTALL!
[01:43] <tarnold> the desktop display is larger then my laptop screen and causes me to have to scroll to do anything
[01:43] <tarnold> ok will do
[01:43] <firemonkeyballz> ok
[01:44] <firemonkeyballz> but whats with the session.in at reboot
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> tarnold: my uncle had the same exact nvidia problem...
[01:44] <lappy> firemonkey i am sorry, i am not understanding your problem
[01:44] <lappy> firemonkey, i have no idea.  where do you see that file?
[01:44] <stdin> will: you can install it manually, tho it won't be updated automatically
[01:44] <tarnold> nosrednaekim: and what happened, was there a fix?
[01:44] <SolidSource> tarnold nosrednaekim: thats a resolution problem which is solved by selecting a different monitor
[01:45] <SolidSource> tarnold nosrednaekim: in the config
[01:45] <lappy> does it come up when logging into KDE?  is it part of the Linux boot?  is it a file in your home directory?
[01:45] <tarnold> ah
[01:45] <will> yeah i think i will do that, until konqueror flash installer bug is fixed :)
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> I'm not sure, I think it was a problem with selected resolution
[01:45] <eMaX_> anyone knows how to debug knetworkmanager? It shows no wireless connections, though wlassistant does
[01:45] <neptunepink> tarnold: press ctrl-alt-numpad+ a couple of times
[01:45] <firemonkeyballz> well if I knew the number easyubuntu created I could run session.in but it was to freaking long
[01:45] <lappy> knew the number?
[01:46] <firemonkeyballz> easyubuntu generates a number for session.in
[01:46] <lappy> ForgeAus can you help us?
[01:46] <stdin> will: there are instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: what exactly do you want to install with easyubuntu?
[01:46] <lappy> firemonkey i suppose then that you have to rerun EasyUbuntu and get the number again, if you need that but don't have it
[01:46] <delight> Jucato: do you got a file /usr/lib/libstrstd.so.111 or someting similiar ? the apt-system does not know about it  and everytime i install something i get ldconfig: /usr/lib/libstrstd.so.111 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.
[01:47] <SolidSource> tarnold: ok, if nvidia-glx is installed, then type "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" once that is open find "nv" and change to "nvidia"
[01:47] <firemonkeyballz> well i wanna complete my install... but session.in crashed
[01:47] <tarnold> solidsource neptunepink: im installing nvidia-glx atm
[01:47] <tarnold> ok
[01:47] <tarnold> will do
[01:47] <ForgeAus> lappy whats the problem exactly?
[01:47] <Jucato> delight: have you tried going to packages.ubuntu.com?
[01:47] <ForgeAus> (I was distracted)
[01:47] <lappy> In my experience, EasyUbuntu has programs.  You check-mark those programs and hit [Install] .  It installs stuff, and then its done.  You go to your KMenu, find what you installed, and then use it.
[01:47] <ForgeAus> lappy basically yes
[01:47] <lappy> So Rerun EasyUbuntu
[01:48] <ForgeAus> um I don't think easyubuntu quits
[01:48] <tarnold> solidsource: what happens once i chagne nv to nvidia?
[01:48] <ForgeAus> its a front end to some install scripts mostly
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> lappy: you shouldn't use easy ubuntu
[01:48] <delight> Jucato yes and http://www.google.com/search?q=libstrstd.so gives strange results ... or better say results with strange messages
[01:48] <lappy> ForgeAus, Firemonkeyballz and I are having trouble with his EasyUbuntu
[01:48] <ForgeAus> bonbon perhaps, its safer than it used to be tho
[01:48] <delight> ppl having similiar issues ... kinda strange
[01:48] <SolidSource> tarnold: it xserver will use the nvidia-glx driver
[01:48] <ForgeAus> lappy what KIND of trouble?
[01:48] <lappy> bonbon i'm not... but i also heard that i shouldn't use automatix, but i do :(
[01:49] <firemonkeyballz> I just dont know what session.in does
[01:49] <ForgeAus> automatix can be dangerous as well... be CAREFUL with it
[01:49] <firemonkeyballz> I dont know what its realy for... but I havent seen it install firefox yet
[01:49] <lappy> ForgeAus, I have NO idea!  Something with his session.in file in EasyUbuntu.  I cannot figure out what he means.
[01:49] <ForgeAus> its been known to break kubuntu installations before
[01:49] <Jucato> delight: sorry no idea...
[01:49] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[01:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:49] <delight> Jucato: no problem ...
[01:50] <delight> Jucato: thnx anyways ... you ain't got such a file thou right ?
[01:50] <lappy> Firemonkeyballz, probably just a temp file.  If its stored in your Home directory somewhere, Delete it and rerun your EasyUbuntu.
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz:  what EXACTLY do you want to install with easyubntu? ther might be another way to do it
[01:50] <ForgeAus> lappy sorry my understanding of easyubuntu doesn't got that deep either
[01:50] <Jucato> delight: nope
[01:50] <tarnold> ok its done
[01:50] <tarnold> going into kate
[01:50] <delight> funny *hehe* ... I'll move it and see what will happen
[01:50] <firemonkeyballz> well all packages were downloaded and installed
[01:50] <lappy> OK
[01:50] <ForgeAus> I ahvn't used a session.in file before but I do suggest reading it if theres text in the file
[01:50] <firemonkeyballz> just kinda scratching my head why at boot i see 6.06
[01:50] <ForgeAus> it might give you some idea of whats going on
[01:50] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[01:51] <SolidSource> tarnold: ok, after "nv" is changed to "nvidia" then save and exit
[01:51] <firemonkeyballz> its just after when I reboot one of easyubuntu's files called session.in wich is a python file... runs
[01:51] <firemonkeyballz> and crashes
[01:52] <tarnold> where would the nv be?
[01:52] <SolidSource> tarnold: there are a couple places, just have to scan through and change as you find
[01:52] <tarnold> nvm i got it
[01:53] <tarnold> ok so its more then 1 that i have to change?
[01:53] <aullom> does anyone have time to help me figure out why i have audio but no picture during dvd playback?
[01:53] <SolidSource> tarnold: there are more than 1
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> SolidSource: really?
[01:53] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim: yes
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> I only thought there was one...
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> under "device"
[01:53] <tarnold> k
[01:53] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim: nope and if they are both not changed, there could be problems
[01:54] <ForgeAus> hmm uberyl! interesting!
[01:54] <tarnold> i only saw nv once
[01:54] <tarnold> ill look again
[01:54] <ForgeAus> pcsx2
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> SolidSource: where is the other one?
[01:54] <SolidSource> tarnold: there should be atleast 2
[01:54] <ForgeAus> I'm pretty sure theres a linux version but its kinda only in dev stages from what I got
[01:55] <ForgeAus> (I needed to install from source)
[01:55] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim tarnold: there are 2 "device" sections
[01:55] <tarnold> ok
[01:55] <ForgeAus> I wonder if you can use it as a backend to pcsx? its probably same design...
[01:55] <tarnold> ill do another search for nv then?
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> SolidSource: Why would there EVER be that?
[01:56] <tarnold> it only came up with the nv from nvidia
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> (although I did see it once, needless to say.. x didn't work)
[01:56] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim: just how it is sometimes
[01:56] <SolidSource> tarnold: ok, then save and exit
[01:56] <tarnold> alrighty
[01:57] <tarnold> ok
[01:57] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim: its not a constant...sometimes there are 2 device sections and sometimes theres 1...its a toss up
[01:57] <SolidSource> tarnold: now go into system settings or kcontrol and select "monitor & display" enter admin mode select hardware
[01:57] <tarnold> alright im there
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> SolidSource: only time I ever saw it was when a proprietary driver Xorg modification script ran and modified the xorg.conf
[01:58] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim: exactly...
[01:58] <ForgeAus> actually jucato ubotu should be updated for Automatix and EasyUbuntu, they're not exactly scripts themselves (of course in some sense all applications are at some point script but that aside) they're gui frontends to a set of scripts nowerdays...
[01:58] <SolidSource> nosrednaekim: it all depends how you do it...if the nvidia-glx does the configure, there will be 2 and if xserver does it there will most likely be only 1
[01:59] <bobesponja> whats the keyboard short cut to switch desktop?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> SolidSource: ahhhh.... ok..I didn't know he had nvidia glx installed yet
[01:59] <SolidSource> tarnold: ok in monitor and display?
[01:59] <hak0> bobesponja:CTRL+TAB i think
[01:59] <tarnold> yep
[01:59] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I will leave that to the other more knowledgeable editors, as it's a very sensitive topic...
[01:59] <tarnold> yep
[01:59] <tarnold> gah sorry for double post
[02:00] <SolidSource> tarnold: ok in hardware, select "configure" under monitor #1
[02:00] <luckyone> hello all
[02:00] <stdin> automatix is a script, automatix2 is a gui to the script, so the bot is still right about automatix
[02:00] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: The main point, at least for automatix, is that it breaks the system.
[02:00] <luckyone> amarok is probably the most amazing thing in the world
[02:00] <ForgeAus> ahh ic stdin
[02:00] <bobesponja> hak0: doesnt work
[02:00] <SolidSource> tarnold: now just select which ever monitor is closest to yours, if your make and model is not listed, select "generic" and which resolution is yours
[02:01] <tarnold>  i don't see a configure option i see a moniter #1:custom 1, then Role: with a dropdown list
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> luckyone: go tell the people over at #amarok that... they'll be glad to hear ir
[02:01] <ForgeAus> but do people still get automatix? wouldn't most get Automatix2 now instead? is automatix2 also dangerous?...
[02:01] <ForgeAus> maybe relay them to Automatix2 instead?
[02:01] <tarnold> nevermind
[02:01] <SolidSource> tarnold: may need to scroll over
[02:01] <tarnold> i didn't look over far enoguh
[02:01] <scribz> noooo
[02:01] <tarnold> :)
[02:02] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: Yes.  The problem is that they work outside the sytem, therefore they break things.
[02:02] <ForgeAus> (I wasn't aware so much that there still was an automatix (1) around)
[02:02] <scribz> automatix2 made my cpu go 100%
[02:02] <scribz> fan on all time
[02:02] <tarnold> how do i know which one mine is though?
[02:02] <scribz> reinstall fixed it
[02:02] <stdin> ForgeAus: I see your point, most do say "automatix2", if anything the bot could be updated to say "automatix/automatix2"
[02:02] <hak0> bobesponja: maybe you changed KDE behavior ,  i use kde default , maybe you have choose windows default keys or mac
[02:02] <scribz> do stuff manually, it's eaasy
[02:02] <SolidSource> tarnold: you don't know what monitor you have? then select "generic" and choose which resolution is your max
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> scribz: automatix is.... well anything easy isn't good..
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> getting gaim
[02:03] <tarnold> oh ok
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh yeah... GAIM rocks...
[02:03] <firemonkeyballz> kopete sucks
[02:03] <tarnold> it said that i had to log out to restart the x server
[02:03] <tarnold> so im doing that'
[02:03] <scribz> nosrednaekim: apt-get install is better than using automatix
[02:03] <hak0> GAIM with OTR
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> scribiz: yeppers...
[02:04] <SolidSource> firemonkeyballz: there are not really any major differences between gaim and kopete....besides kopete looks better
[02:04] <ForgeAus> stdin I'm not sure... all I'm saying is saying it will break your system ... is bad because it doesn't always break everones system depends on what you want from it... (that being said I agree with scribz apt-get install is better... assuming you have the repositories for the software thats on the list)
[02:04] <pepepopo> hi, im new to ubuntu (not to linux) and i am getting problems with samba, it seems that i have smbclient but no smbd, i am using kubuntu and almost every time i try to search for the pkg in the "add/remove" program it crash... i tried command line "apt-get install samba" but that pckg doesnt exists, it tells me that samba-client and samba-common does... any tip?
[02:04] <scribz> sources ?
[02:04] <SolidSource> tarnold: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart xserver
[02:04] <ForgeAus> um there is a samba package
[02:04] <ForgeAus> I'm certain I installed it
[02:04] <ForgeAus> !samba
[02:04] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> !info samba
[02:05] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 2956 kB, installed size 7392 kB
[02:05] <SolidSource> pepepopo: samba is not installed by default
[02:05] <pepepopo> well whats wrong with the command "apt-get install samba"?
[02:05] <ForgeAus> pepe which distro you using? kubuntu dapper? you might need edgy?
[02:05] <scribz> apt-cache search samba
[02:05] <SolidSource> pepepopo: open konsole type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install samba smbfs"
[02:05] <pepepopo> i am using edgy
[02:06] <ForgeAus> well looks like its in main
[02:06] <SolidSource> pepepopo: you have to use sudo
[02:06] <stdin> ForgeAus: if it doesn't break your system now, it will when you decide yo upgrade, because it used unofficial repos and the version numbers are different. automatix2 is just as dangerous as automatix(1)
[02:06] <ForgeAus> so it should show up in adept...
[02:06] <pepepopo> SolidSource i know
[02:06] <firemonkeyballz> umm ok.. guess im still runing dapper
[02:06] <firemonkeyballz> yey
[02:06] <firemonkeyballz> or not
[02:06] <firemonkeyballz> confused
[02:06] <ForgeAus> stdin interesting...
[02:06] <SolidSource> pepepopo: have you uncommented the backports and other repos?
[02:07] <ForgeAus> good to know... also bad to know lol
[02:07] <firemonkeyballz> Im gonna update via cd
[02:08] <pepepopo> SolidSource i think i did when ive first installed (its for my mom, i use gentoo), but messy me i forgot to write comments to se which where the original repositories
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> just gonna take a day to get
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: why?
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> cuz Im still downloading dapper packages
[02:08] <ForgeAus> why are version numbers so much a hassle with linux anyway?...
[02:08] <SolidSource> pepepopo: ok lets replace your sources.list with a more up to date one
[02:08] <firemonkeyballz> apparently
[02:08] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > pepepopo
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: run a "uname -r"
[02:09] <stdin> ForgeAus: just the other day someone was asking how to install kopete (on ubuntu), because they couldn't find it in synaptic. it turned out that automatix2 had changed the sources.list and not bothered to change it back
[02:09] <ForgeAus> automatix2 removes things or comments them out??
[02:09] <firemonkeyballz> 2.6.15-28-amd64-generic
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: and tell me the output..
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yep...still dapper
[02:10] <pepepopo> SolidSource nice page :P
[02:11] <ForgeAus> I'm not suprised it changes sources.list, but I am suprised the change wasn't simply an addition
[02:11] <stdin> ForgeAus: version numbers can be a hassle because a package can depend on a package with a specific version, so that can stop things from being updated, and automatix2 doesn't comment them out, it backsup  your sources.list, then uses it own
[02:11] <SolidSource> firemonkeyballz nosrednaekim: have you gone through the how to upgrade distros?
[02:11] <ForgeAus> IC
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> nah...
[02:11] <ForgeAus> so to fix you just reinstate the backed up one
[02:12] <firemonkeyballz> Im guessing that adept auto update overwrote everything
[02:12] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[02:12] <firemonkeyballz> grrrr
[02:12] <stdin> ForgeAus: yeah, if the user knows how to
[02:12] <Whopper> how do i change the color of the bar on top of a program?
[02:12] <stdin> ForgeAus: and, if they are using automatix, they probably don't
[02:12] <ForgeAus> stdin perhaps we should lobby the automatix guys to have a button to fix it for newbies?
[02:13] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: or better yet, tell them only to use official repos
[02:13] <stdin> ForgeAus: I'd rather have an official ubuntu package to install the packages
[02:13] <firemonkeyballz> yey gaim is soo much better
[02:13] <ghetek> how do i print from CLI? like i want to run "man partimage >> (print to my printer)" is there a way to do this without first >> to a plaintext file?
[02:13] <ForgeAus> stdin I heard that isn't possible..
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: are you saying you want to do a fresh install?
[02:13] <SolidSource> tarnold: you back yet?
[02:14] <stdin> ghetek: lp (i think it uses cups)
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> no need for a fresh install
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> just wanna upgrade from DVD
[02:14] <ForgeAus> because some of the stuff it installs isn't able to be official for some reason (probably legalities)
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: oh ok... you can do that?
[02:14] <firemonkeyballz> I can read directions
[02:14] <ghetek> stdin: man partimage >>lp
[02:14] <ghetek> ?
[02:14] <stdin> ForgeAus: sure it is, most things people need (like mp3, dvd, flash) are in the repos
[02:14] <SolidSource> firemonkeyballz: if you have a edgy DVD, then insert it and restart...the DVD will walk you throuhg
[02:15] <stdin> ghetek: no, use the | (pipe), so man partimage | lp
[02:15] <ghetek> thanks
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> just boot from it?
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> or
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> login and insert
[02:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yeah I know....but I didn't know you could update from a cd
[02:15] <stdin> !away | britt|away
[02:15] <ubotu> britt|away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:15] <ghetek> stdin: you rock so hard its not even funny
[02:15] <SolidSource> firemonkeyballz: boot from the DVD
[02:15] <stdin> ghetek: thanks :)
[02:16] <stdin> ghetek: you can always save the output to a file too, "man partimage > filename" then just print that from a GUI
[02:18] <firemonkeyballz> I suppose the adept updater overwrote everything
[02:18] <firemonkeyballz> in a way
[02:18] <firemonkeyballz> thats good
[02:18] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[02:19] <luckyone> is there an amarok users channel?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> yes... #amarok
[02:19] <luckyone> ok, not just devs?
[02:19] <stdin> luckyone: #amarok , but it's probably dead
[02:20] <SolidSource> luckyone: #kde will probrably cover amarok
[02:21] <arassi> newbie - how to install libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu?????
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get install libxine-extrcodecs"
[02:22] <arassi> i tried not working
[02:22] <stdin> arassi: enable multiverse
[02:22] <arassi> i did
[02:22] <stdin> !repos | arassi
[02:22] <ubotu> arassi: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:22] <stdin> arassi: it IS in there, make sure
[02:22] <SolidSource> arassi: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[02:22] <arassi> done already and still not working
[02:22] <ForgeAus> stdin: An informative online article gives step-by-step instructions on how to use Automatix2 to install Skype, Opera, the Macromedia Flash plugin for Firefox, Google Earth, Picasa, VMware Player, Adobe Reader, DVD support, and more.
[02:22] <SolidSource> its probably just need to be updated
[02:23] <ForgeAus> is Opera, skype and google earth in repos?
[02:23] <SolidSource> arassi: ok, may need to obtain the key
[02:23] <ForgeAus> I know VMware player and Adobe reader are
[02:23] <ForgeAus> (or can be)
[02:23] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: for 32 bit, yes
[02:23] <arassi> how do i do that?
[02:23] <stdin> ForgeAus: there are commercial repos too you know
[02:24] <SolidSource> arassi: well the sources.list will have the instructions on how to obtain
[02:24] <arassi> what list...i'm using adept manager
[02:24] <stdin> ForgeAus: eg, opera is on archive.canonical.com
[02:25] <SolidSource> arassi: close adept
[02:25] <arassi> done
[02:25] <firemonkeyballz> well u kno one thing... I dont have clock problems anymore
[02:25] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[02:25] <SolidSource> arassi: ALT-F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:25] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[02:26] <ForgeAus> wow ghost for linux! thats interesting!
[02:27] <SolidSource> arassi: you can make sure that the repos are uncommented and if it doesn't have the instructions, I'll give them
[02:27] <ForgeAus> SolidSource I'm not concerned with 64-bit right now that most of that stuff is still new
[02:28] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: ?? I was just saying, cause I don't know what system you are using
[02:29] <ForgeAus> hehe Solid its ok and mostly hypothetical anyhow...
[02:30] <arassi> i'm back ..got disconnected
[02:31] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: I'm using 64bit...using blackdown and nspluginwrapper...no problems yet
[02:31] <SolidSource> arassi: ok np, are there instructions on obtaining the keys up top of the sources.list file?
[02:31] <ForgeAus> :) nice
[02:32] <arassi> solidsource: how to get there again?
[02:32] <SolidSource> arassi: hit ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:33] <SolidSource> arassi: you know what, replace everything in that file with what I supplied here: http://pastebin.sk/en/1072/
[02:33] <arassi> ok hang on
[02:34] <SolidSource> arassi: then you will definitely have the instructions
[02:34] <SolidSource> arassi: as well as the kubuntu repos which aren't supplied by default
[02:35] <arassi> ok then what
[02:36] <SolidSource> arassi: where you get to so far?
[02:36] <eclectro>  I have a mail.com account and am having problems logging in? Is anyone else having problems? Do they limit the number of times you can login and check your mail?
[02:36] <arassi> i copy all text to file and save
[02:36] <SolidSource> arassi: ok, still have the webpage open?
[02:37] <arassi> yes
[02:37] <SolidSource> arassi: the instructions at the top tells how to get the keys...run those 2 commands (in konsole) for the 4 keys within the page
[02:38] <arassi> ok hang on
[02:38] <arassi> i get errors
[02:39] <SolidSource> arassi: doing?
[02:39] <arassi> arassi@arassi-desktop:~$ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[02:39] <arassi> gpg: directory `/home/arassi/.gnupg' created
[02:39] <arassi> gpg: new configuration file `/home/arassi/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
[02:39] <arassi> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/arassi/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[02:39] <arassi> gpg: keyring `/home/arassi/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[02:39] <arassi> gpg: keyring `/home/arassi/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
[02:39] <arassi> gpg: "KEY" not a key ID: skipping
[02:40] <SolidSource> arassi: one don't paste like that
[02:40] <arassi> ok
[02:40] <arassi> sorry
[02:40] <SolidSource> arassi: and two...there is an alpha-numeric key for the repo....here I will give you another pastebin with the commands
[02:41] <arassi> ok
[02:42] <SolidSource> arassi: http://pastebin.sk/en/1073/ .........just copy and paste
[02:42] <SolidSource> arassi that will take care of all 4 keys
[02:42] <arassi> ok hang on
[02:43] <SolidSource> and notice::: amarok 2 is going to be AWESOME
[02:44] <arassi> ok i think it took...now what?
[02:44] <SolidSource> arassi: "sudo apt-get update" and once thats done, you can install whatever you need
[02:44] <stdin> SolidSource: alarok is already awesome, v2 is going to (ama)ROCK
[02:44] <arassi> ok hang on
[02:44] <stdin> s/alarok/amarok/
[02:45] <SolidSource> stdin: eh...I can see several places for 1.4.5 to be improved
[02:45] <stdin> SolidSource: compare it to most other media players tho
[02:45] <SolidSource> stdin: but I was looking at the screenshots of amarok2...
[02:45] <arassi> holly molly
[02:46] <SolidSource> arassi: ??
[02:47] <arassi> its updating i mean...if this work you're god send ...i'm starting to dig linux already...cool
[02:47] <SolidSource> arassi: if the keys were imported, then you shouldn't have any problems
[02:48] <rx_> i
[02:48] <rx_> hi*
[02:48] <SolidSource> stdin: I want to see kopete improved majorly though...basically, make Kopete like trillian and support all features of all messaging systems
[02:48] <rx_> how to disable the bouncing cursor in kubuntu feisty?
[02:48] <arassi> thanx again solidsource ...i'll let you know in a minute or two
[02:49] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, kopete really needs some work
[02:49] <vontux> how would one go about identifying the hardware on their system (wi-fi chipsets for instance) using unix commands or gnome/kde guis?
[02:50] <Ash-Fox> I'd identify the chipset using lspci or lsusb
[02:50] <vontux> !lspci
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <vontux> Ash-Fox, thx
[02:51] <SolidSource> stdin: I'm depressed in Trillian though ( if you have used it)...the new version is going to require server login
[02:52] <vontux> is HP hardware prone to linux compatibility problems?
[02:52] <SolidSource> vontux: HP is prone to problems like windows is prone to problems
[02:52] <shadowhywind> stupid question here, Where do i go to not show the windows on other desktops on the systray?
[02:52] <stdin> rx_: kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback -> Busy Cursor = No Busy Curcor
[02:53] <gon> mozilla
[02:53] <Ash-Fox> vontux, HP sells some hardware for Linux usage.
[02:53] <SolidSource> shadowhywind: right click on the window bar
[02:54] <SolidSource> shadowhywind: or are you asking about the desktop pager?
[02:54] <vontux> hmmm, strange, I have a friend who has trouble w/ his hp laptop and desktop, I knew about hp printers being compatible ;however, I didn't know about their computers for linux
[02:54] <shadowhywind> like if i have a window open/minimized on desktop 4 and i am on desktop 1 i do not want to see the name on the bottom of the screen
[02:54] <stdin> shadowhywind: right-click on the task bar, click configure panel -> Taskbar , uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[02:55] <SolidSource> shadowhywind: what stdin said
[02:55] <shadowhywind> where is that option within the configure panel.. I can not find it.. hehe
[02:55] <alonea> I am having some trouble installing Mplayer. I keep getting an Error 1 for make. I see some stuff about undefined reference to __divdi3
[02:55] <shadowhywind> i have done it before.. but i can't find it on this reinstall
[02:56] <Ash-Fox> vontux, I don't think that hardware was made for Linux usage some how.
[02:56] <Ash-Fox> I said 'some', not 'all'.
[02:56] <SolidSource> alonea: are you installing through adept?
[02:56] <vontux> Ash-Fox: ah, gotcha
[02:56] <alonea> SolidSource: no
[02:56] <SolidSource> alonea: why not?
[02:56] <stdin> shadowhywind: just follow my instructions, "right-click on the task bar, click configure panel -> Taskbar , uncheck "Show windows from all desktops""
[02:57] <vontux> Ash-Fox, my friend keeps getting weird results when he does lspci, but my dell laptop provides accurate hardware info
[02:57] <alonea> SolidSource: I tend to like compiling programs myself. Less problems. Prime example is Eclipse.
[02:57] <Ash-Fox> vontux, 'weird results' is not very descriptive.
[02:57] <shadowhywind> stdin i do not have a show windows from all desktops
[02:57] <vontux> Ash-Fox: I'm trying to get him to send me the output now....
[02:57] <SolidSource> alonea: right....well its in the repos...but do you have build-essential installed?
[02:57] <shadowhywind> I have sort alphanetically by application name, show only minimized windows, show application icons, show window list button.. and then drop down menus
[02:58] <Ash-Fox> vontux, helping people through a 3rd party is near impossible, you're better off getting him on here.
[02:58] <stdin> shadowhywind: the 1st option here http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot21op3.jpg
[02:58] <vontux> Ash-Fox: hehe, ok
[02:59] <alonea> SolidSource: yeah, I did that first. and it does ./configure and ./configure --enable-gui fine. It just wont seem to compile. Probably missing some lib stuff for something.
[02:59] <shadowhywind> stdin I do not have that option
[03:00] <SolidSource> alonea: yeah probably, check the readme and INSTALL instructions?
[03:00] <alonea> SolidSource: Been following it, but I guess I can double check it.
[03:00] <SolidSource> alonea: dependencies should be listed in one of them
[03:01] <alonea> SolidSource: Might be missing glibc. Will check.
[03:01] <shadowhywind> stdin here look http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1dt9.png
[03:03] <stdin> shadowhywind: hmm, that's strange
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> shadowhywind: are you using beryl by chance?
[03:03] <shadowhywind> perhaps?
[03:04] <shadowhywind> yes i am.. hehe
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> that's why
[03:04] <SolidSource> stdin: you wouldn't by chance know how to install adium themes onto kopete?
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> the option's not there because beryl doesn't use the pager, it uses viewports
[03:04] <shadowhywind> beryl removes system options?
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> chances are things got changed at some point
[03:05] <shadowhywind> so any idea you know to get rid of this issue?
[03:05] <Schuenemann> !sis
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> looking now, i have the same problem
[03:05] <Schuenemann> !sis315
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> possibly in the beryl settings
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis315 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> they're all showing up because they're all technically on the same desktop
[03:06] <MasterEvilAce> how do i copy all files in a folder, and put them into another folder (and overwrite duplicate files), at the command prompt?
[03:06] <stdin> SolidSource: Settings -> Configure -> Appearance -> (choose tab) -> install ?
[03:06] <stdin> shadowhywind: afaik, beryl can't do it (yet)
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> found it.
[03:06] <Schuenemann> anyone knows if I can get SiS drivers through an apt-get repository? debian had that option
[03:06] <bxnp> guys is it possible to resize my home dir split it up and format the one section
[03:06] <SolidSource> stdin: no, these themes are for the contact list windows...that only allows the message window
[03:07] <SolidSource> stdin: found a tut
[03:07] <shadowhywind> i had the window thing working a while ago before a reinstall
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> in the beryl settings manager, extras, window previews, taskbar, check "Taskbar Shows Only Windows of Current Viewport"... of course, it doesn't seem to work :\
[03:08] <stdin> Schuenemann: isn't xserver-xorg-video-sis the sis driver?
[03:08] <Schuenemann> stdin, huh... I have no clue
[03:08] <Schuenemann> I only know my video settings suck more than they should d
[03:08] <Schuenemann> do*
[03:09] <bigdad1e> hey, can someone help me setup my phone on here?
[03:09] <Schuenemann> stdin, what is that, btw?
[03:10] <stdin> Schuenemann: Package Description: "X.Org X server -- SiS display driver, This package provides the driver for all SiS and XGI Volari cards."
[03:10] <bigdad1e> on kubuntu*
[03:10] <Schuenemann> stdin, well, I have problems
[03:10] <SilentDis> hello :)
[03:11] <Schuenemann> stdin, if I type glxinfo, for example, X crashes
[03:11] <|Jason8|> Hrm.  What would cause the X-server to take up 290 MB of RAM?  Under the regular Ubuntu install/LiveCD, it only took up about 30 MB
[03:12] <SilentDis> i have decided to 'take the plunge' for a week, and give KDE a try (gnome user mostly).  I've been poking around, and I can't seem to find a tool to allow me to easily mount/unmount disks.  what am I missing?
[03:13] <stdin> Schuenemann: not sure, but maybe the sis driver doesn't support glx, or maybe you don't have the glx module loaded in xorg.conf
[03:13] <bigdad1e> whats a good program to use to connect to a cell phone on kubuntu?
[03:13] <Schuenemann> stdin, there is another glx command that works... some spinning things appear
[03:14] <Schuenemann> stdin, if I zoom in too much in blender, it crashes t oo
[03:14] <stdin> SilentDis: System Settings -> Advanced -> Disk & Filesystems, or the auto mounter for removable media
[03:14] <stdin> Schuenemann: you mean glxgears works?
[03:15] <Schuenemann> yes, exacly
[03:15] <bxnp> stdin: is it possible to resize my home dir and split it up
[03:15] <SilentDis> stdin: thank you, I was looking for something to stick in the dock or the like.  got a netdisk and floppy drive.  I used a simple partition mounter tool attached to my gnome bar for it.
[03:15] <stdin> Schuenemann: I think it may be the driver then, it may not have 100% support, it could be the hardware too
[03:16] <Schuenemann> what do you mean the hardware?
[03:16] <stdin> SilentDis: also look at /media or media:/ in konqueror too
[03:16] <stdin> Schuenemann: the grpahics hardware has to support the glx extentions too
[03:16] <Schuenemann> stdin, how do I check if I have that module in xorg.conf?
[03:17] <stdin> Schuenemann: look for " Load    "glx" " in " Section "Module" "
[03:17] <Schuenemann> well, zooming in @ blender makes it crashes... even though it's a crappy video card, I don't think that should happen
[03:17] <SolidSource> bxnp: do mean resize your partition?
[03:17] <SilentDis> stdin: yes, the folder is listed in media:/, but of course the disk is not mounted yet.  I've got my /etc/fstab all setup to allow user mounts of it.  a simpler example:  how does one go about mounting/unmounting a floppy disk?
[03:17] <Schuenemann> sorry... where is xorg.conf ?
[03:18] <SilentDis> stdin: i should specifiy, mounting from the kde interface.  I can do so from a terminal without issue :)
[03:18] <stdin> SilentDis: I don't have one, so I can't say for sure, but you should just be able to click on the dir, or there may be an entry in the right click menu
[03:18] <stdin> Schuenemann: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <SolidSource> SilentDis stdin: check permissions
[03:19] <Schuenemann> yes, there is load glx
[03:19] <SilentDis> SolidSource: I am sure the permissions are fine.  I am able to mount/unmount the device without issue, as a user, from a terminal, as well as from gnome.  what am I missing in KDE to allow me to mount/unmount devices?
[03:20] <SolidSource> SilentDis: you installed KDE on top of ubuntu?
[03:20] <Schuenemann> Device		"Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter"
[03:20] <SilentDis> SolidSource: yes.  both are on this machine.
[03:20] <Schuenemann> appearently it detected the card right
[03:21] <Schuenemann> argh... SiS sucks a lot
[03:21] <SilentDis> SolidSource: I'm trying it out.  giving it a week to see if I like it as such.  I'm normally a gnome user :)
[03:21] <bxnp> yes SolidSource, i need to resize my partition and split it up
[03:21] <bxnp> i have a whole partition for home
[03:21] <bxnp> and i want to divided it in two
[03:21] <SolidSource> SilentDis: there are a few problems with doing that and this is one of them, don't know where to pinpoint it though
[03:22] <SolidSource> bxnp: yes you can, though its dangerous, but if you have live CD,...use it
[03:22] <bxnp> oke i have a live cd
[03:22] <bxnp> what are the normal steps to do it
[03:22] <SilentDis> SolidSource: ok, i'll fiddle with it.
[03:22] <bxnp> because there is data on the that partition
[03:23] <SolidSource> SilentDis: I'm thinking something doesn't get installed that kcontrol needs
[03:23] <bxnp> its not a problem if i loose it because i i have a remote backup however it will be a lot of work to get it back SolidSource
[03:23] <SilentDis> next question:  konversation is all setup... but it appears to pop up a server list every time I open it, I can't close it, and it stays always on top, i have to work around it.  what setting am I missing to remove that?
[03:23] <SolidSource> bxnp: in the LiveCD you use Gparted
[03:24] <SolidSource> SilentDis: close button doesn't work?
[03:24] <bxnp> but but does it resize my disk but allso my data
[03:24] <SilentDis> SolidSource: nope
[03:24] <bxnp> i want to keep my date
[03:24] <SolidSource> bxnp: no, data will not be resized...it will resize the partition regardless of whats there...thats why its dangerous
[03:25] <SolidSource> SilentDis: you should be able to set it to connect automatically and not even open that window
[03:25] <bxnp> so there is no way to put that data on one side of the partition SolidSource
[03:25] <SilentDis> SolidSource: i think i found that option... brb, gonna restart to see if it'll clear that dialog.  not sure why I can't close it.
[03:26] <SilentDis> that's better :)
[03:26] <SolidSource> bxnp: not that  know of...if is on the end of the drive where the new partition will be created, you will have to move it manually (some how) or lose it
[03:27] <bxnp> damm i need partition magic
[03:28] <SolidSource> bxnp: yeah the easiest way would be fresh install and create the partitions there....but otherwise you have to find some other way
[03:28] <razzorz> G'day all..
[03:28] <razzorz> havin issues installin my qiuck cam  and thoughts?
[03:28] <razzorz> Any thoughts**
[03:28] <SolidSource> ok all cya in a bit....I need some of the stuff normal people call food
[03:29] <bxnp> ehm oke SolidSource well the problem is that partition is corrupted
[03:29] <orange_> hey ppl
[03:29] <bxnp> so i thought i split that partition move my data to the new one
[03:29] <bxnp> and format the segment of the old one
[03:29] <bxnp> and then do it again
[03:30] <bxnp> so i have a completly formated in this case two partioned drive
[03:30] <razzorz> anyone delt with the quick cam drivers ??
[03:33] <razzorz> wow the help is overwhelming
[03:33] <razzorz> please not all at once...
[03:34] <razzorz> one at at time... my gawd folks
[03:35] <Number2> hello I just installed kubuntu, how do i configure my nic card?
[03:35] <razzorz> anyone have a heartbeat.
[03:36] <fignew> I'm trying to get flash (32 bit) to work under konqueror (64 bit) I've read that it should be pretty much plug'n'play, but after installing the plugin, the konqueror plugin scan shows nothing
[03:36] <fignew> razzorz: What do you need help with?
[03:36] <razzorz> well i just lookin for the steps to install my quick cam drivers
[03:36] <razzorz> or to find out if they even work
[03:36] <cpk1> pretty sure there is no 64bit flash
[03:37] <fignew> cpk1: there is
[03:37] <Number2> netconfig doesn't work
[03:37] <Number2> i dont know what else to do
[03:37] <fignew> Number2: under System Settings
[03:37] <fignew> in the K meny
[03:37] <fignew> menu*
[03:38] <Jucato> !webcam
[03:38] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:38] <cpk1> fignew: no, there isnt 64bit flash
[03:38] <cpk1> but it looks like you dont need a 32bit chroot to get flash working either at least
[03:39] <fignew> cpk1: yes, for firefox... not konqueror
[03:39] <cpk1> but you do need 32bit firefox, its all explained here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:39] <razzorz> wow great.. not like i have not been there b4...
[03:40] <Number2> fignew, i went there, it shows etho, but the properties button is inactive
[03:40] <fignew> 64 bit konq's nsplugin wrapper works with 32bit plugins (it's supposted to :/)
[03:40] <teufel_> whats a good torrent client to use
[03:40] <razzorz> lets make this easy... I have the pack ( qc-usb-messenger-1.6 )  but lost trying to install it... treat me like a Child it works better.. step by step
[03:40] <fignew> Number2: in the lower right hand corner of the window, there's gonna be a Admin button
[03:40] <fignew> you're gonna have to type in you PW
[03:41] <fignew> teufel_: for kubuntu, ktorrent
[03:41] <teufel_> seems like it slows down
[03:41] <fignew> razzorz: what kind of netcam
[03:41] <teufel_> well is there anyway to keep it from slowing down some much
[03:41] <Number2> fignew there is nowhere to type in a password
[03:41] <razzorz> Fignew ...quick cam messenger
[03:41] <lalwa> salut les gars
[03:42] <fignew> teufel_: rtorrent is pretty fast, but it's only console based, and (sorta) hard to configure
[03:42] <teufel_> i mean i know about torrents and whatever but is ther some reason like the memory usage or something
[03:42] <razzorz> i think i am lost in the Term not typing in the proper comands
[03:42] <cpk1> teufel_: azureus works pretty well too
[03:42] <fignew> Number2: you first have to click on the Administrator Mode button first
[03:43] <fignew> cpk1: if you don't mind the excessive CPU & RAM usage ;)
[03:43] <Number2> ok
[03:43] <teufel_> rtorrent ok thanks ill check it out
[03:43] <cpk1> running it in a console isnt that bad and you can set the update interval for it to be higher too
[03:44] <fignew> razzorz: have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[03:44] <Number2> fignew OK i see where it sasy click administrator mode button, but i dont see the actual button, is it on the same window?
[03:45] <Number2> fignew I found it my screen is not big enough
[03:46] <Number2> thank
[03:47] <fignew> lol Number2: that's happened to me before
[03:47] <Number2> :) thanks for the help
[03:48] <fignew> No problem :P
[03:49] <alonea> umm, is there a way to see a list of processes and kill them?
[03:49] <SolidSource>  alonea: CTRL+ESC
[03:49] <Jucato> alonea: Ctrl+Esc
[03:49] <Jucato> snap!
[03:49] <SolidSource> Jucato: I win
[03:49] <Jucato> :P
[03:50] <Jucato> only by a microsecond
[03:50] <alonea> sweet. thanks
[03:50] <SolidSource> thats all it takes
[03:50] <alonea> stupid adept...
[03:51] <fignew> Jucato, SolidSource: never knew about that :)
[03:51] <alonea> dammit. it still says another instance is running.
[03:51] <SolidSource> alonea: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in konsole
[03:51] <Jucato> !adeptfix | alonea
[03:51] <ubotu> alonea: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:52] <alonea> also, is apt-index-watch also adept? says I dont have permission to kill
[03:52] <SolidSource> alonea: no its not
[03:52] <Jucato> no need to kill apt-index-watch
[03:52] <Jucato> just run the commands that the bot gave
[03:52] <adydas> "HTML Rendering is currently disabled " How can i turn HTML rendering on?
[03:52] <alonea> okies. ok, I will. and it did crash on me
[03:53] <Number2> if im running ubuntu, is there any way to get the kubuntu style kde on the same system withough dual booting
[03:53] <SolidSource> alonea: you weren't trying to install java were you?
[03:53] <razzorz> ty about that site there ( fignew ) ,,, whats the chances of gettin my codec for mp3 or dvd
[03:53] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[03:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:53] <Jucato> razzorz: mp3 codec? very high chances
[03:53] <Jucato> !mp3 | razzorz
[03:53] <ubotu> razzorz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:54] <Dr_willis> kubuntu faq also has some info
[03:54] <alonea> SolidSource: nope. some binutils stuff. still trying to figure out what package I am missing that it wants to compile
[03:54] <SilentDis> !katapult
[03:54] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:55] <SolidSource> alonea: ok...cause you can't use adept for java...until feisty is out
[03:55] <gekko_> Aloha! :)
[03:55] <alonea> SolidSource: I install java manually anyway.
[03:55] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i recall using adept for java i thought.. :)
[03:55] <Dr_willis> but i think i did somthing else earlier that fixed that silly eula requestor bug
[03:56] <Dr_willis> I test out so many disrtos.. i get confused. :)
[03:56] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: if you already accepted EULA...then it shouldn't have a problem
[03:56] <alonea> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:56] <alonea>  gclcvs
[03:56] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i was thinking i some how ran the proper dpkg-reconfigure command and told it to default to kde, or somthing.. egads i am gettting old..
[03:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:57] <alonea> that thing the bot said didn't work..
[03:57] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: whats breakfast?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  thats what you go to taco-bell to eat at 5am. :)
[03:58] <Number2> how do i get kde on ubuntu
[03:58] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: ooohh so thats what thats called
[03:58] <SilentDis> Number2: sudo aptitude install kde-desktop (at least, that's what I did)
[03:58] <Number2> is it like the kubuntu kde?
[03:59] <Jucato> er? there is no kde-desktop package
[03:59] <SilentDis> Number2: ahh, you're right.  kubuntu-desktop.  my mistake
[03:59] <Jucato> Number2: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <Number2> sweet
[03:59] <Number2> thanks
[03:59] <SolidSource> SilentDis: have you tried just editing the fstab file in kde? that might get it to mount it automatically
[03:59] <Jucato> Number2: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[03:59] <Number2> will it show up in my gdm
[04:00] <SilentDis> SolidSource: it's already setup properly... is there a tool I need to use specifically?
[04:00] <Number2> k
[04:00] <SolidSource> SilentDis: not if the fstab has it and the linked folder exists...
[04:01] <SilentDis> SolidSource: they both do, I'm still not finding a tool to allow me to mount it on demand though :(
[04:01] <gekko_> Excuse me, can anybody tell me where I can find commandline applications? Like "madplay" and things I had in other distributions? :)
[04:01] <gekko_> or at least a list of packages I can install with sudo apt-get install?
[04:02] <SilentDis> SolidSource: in /etc/fstab - /dev/ndas-00110749:0p1  /media/netdisk  vfat    defaults,user,noauto    0       0
[04:02] <SilentDis> SolidSource: and the /media/netdisk folder exists.  I can issue a 'mount /media/netdisk' as user and it works.
[04:02] <SolidSource> SilentDis: hmm
[04:04] <SilentDis> SolidSource: I'd have fstab mount it for me, but due to when the driver for it loads, that doesn't work.  I basically have to 'wait' till i'm in user space to mount it.
[04:04] <SolidSource> SilentDis: is it a NAS?
[04:05] <SilentDis> SolidSource: it's a Ximeda Netdisk, NDAS is the name they've given to the tech it uses.  it's not NAS
[04:05] <SolidSource> SilentDis: ok...
[04:06] <SilentDis> SolidSource: it is a network access disk, but it came out just as/just before they became all the rage, and thus uses a propriatary driver and such.
[04:07] <SolidSource> SilentDis: I have no idea
[04:07] <alonea> ok, I can't get Mplayer to compile...
[04:08] <SilentDis> SolidSource: it's all setup on the backend, basically.  I just need a kde tool to allow me to mount/unmount it.  I could go with gdesklets i suppose, but that's a lot of extra overhead I'd like to avoid
[04:08] <alonea> and it seems every file I try to install on adept fails, but when I go back to try again it says installed...
[04:08] <SolidSource> SilentDis: yeah, kcontrol should take care of it
[04:09] <SilentDis> SolidSource: checking out System Services in System Settings... I show kde-guidance as stopped.  is that the tool that does this?  also, should I switch off gdm and switch on kdm?
[04:11] <alonea> yup. anything I install it says it fails partway through installation but says installed when I go back to it...
[04:11] <SolidSource> SilentDis: don't know...that service isn't running here...though it runs on boot
[04:12] <SolidSource> SilentDis: and the kdm thing, I doubt will fix, but who knows
[04:12] <SilentDis> SolidSource: checking out service manager now...
[04:13] <SilentDis> SolidSource: KDED Media Manager shows as running...
[04:15] <Orange1> how do i see whats taking all my cpu resources?
[04:17] <SolidSource> SilentDis: can't find anything like that on my system
[04:18] <SilentDis> SolidSource: I didn't expect 'perfect' in this transition.  for now, I can hit the konsole when I need to mount it, but I will do some searching and probably pop in here from time to time to ask again on this one :)
[04:19] <SilentDis> SolidSource: overall though... as I'm poking around I see some rather nice features.  Amarok for one is lightyears better than Exaile! is, heh.
[04:19] <SolidSource> SilentDis: yeah, if I wanted both kde and gnome, I would have to go with a different distro....but I hate gnome, so don't worry about
[04:20] <alonea> ok, how do I load the root version of konqueror? kdesu konqueror doesn't work. Get X Error: BadDevice, invalid or unitialized input device 166
[04:21] <SolidSource> alonea: that error is fine
[04:21] <SilentDis> SolidSource: eh.  gnome isn't bad, it does have it's limiting moments though, which is why i'm exploring elsewhere.
[04:21] <alonea> SolidSource: Ok, then how do I load it?
[04:22] <Silveira_Neto> alonea: xhost +;kdesu konqueror
[04:22] <SolidSource> alonea: but that is how you do it....just have to try again since kdesu/sudo gets stuck sometimes
[04:22] <SilentDis> SolidSource: besides, i'm not one for 'holy wars'.  I can definatly see the 'best use case' for gnome, time to understand the 'best use case' for kde :)
[04:23] <alonea> Well, in KDE of Slackware, there was an icon that loaded it just fine. Think it was called SuperUser File System browser or something similar
[04:23] <SilentDis> off to play wow, take care all :)
[04:24] <SolidSource> alonea: yeah, but they don't do that here cause they don't want you in SU mode if you can help it
[04:24] <SolidSource> alonea: try ALT+F2 and then "kdesu konqueror"
[04:25] <alonea> SolidSource: uh huh...is there anyway I can install it?
[04:25] <alonea> SolidSource: nothing.
[04:26] <SolidSource> alonea: install what?
[04:27] <alonea> SolidSource: the SuperUser File System thing.
[04:27] <alonea> ok, I checked the process table and there was like 5 instances of kdesu...
[04:28] <SolidSource> alonea: no, and that thing your talking about is merely running the kdesu command anyway
[04:29] <alonea> ah, guess on here it tends to not want to work.
[04:29] <SolidSource> alonea: just run "kdesu ksysguard" and kill the kdesu processes then and then try running "kdesu konqueror" again
[04:29] <alonea> ok, did that, and...there it goes.
[04:29] <alonea> SolidSource: Know why my adept says everything fails?
[04:30] <SolidSource> alonea: no, cause I don't know what you have done
[04:30] <alonea> SolidSource: It started right after I did what the bot said to do, which gave me errors.
[04:31] <smorg> Hi
[04:31] <bonbonthejon> hi
[04:31] <SolidSource> alonea: you probably have broken packages
[04:31] <SolidSource> alonea: that could cause it
[04:31] <smorg> Anyone happen to be good at troubleshooting kppp?
[04:32] <alonea> SolidSource: Dunno. I just want to be able to watch wmvs...didn't know it would be this bloody hard
[04:32] <brad_> ne1 know anything about airport extreme?
[04:32] <brad_> drivers for ubuntu 6.06?
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> brad_: what is the chipset, I think it should work
[04:33] <SolidSource> alonea: the reason you should use adept to install things is to avoid these issues...compiling things yourself has higher likeliness of causing problems
[04:33] <smorg> Anyway... I can't seem to get it to find my modem. It will just freeze when dialing
[04:33] <Ashex> well that was odd
[04:33] <Ashex> !smb4k
[04:33] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[04:33] <brad_> not sure, its for my buddies computer...I think its a broadcom
[04:34] <alonea> SolidSource: Well, this is the first time its ever done this. And Adept would not install Eclipse correctly when I tried it.
[04:34] <Ashex> apparently smb4k has a fairly serious bug
[04:34] <alonea> nor some other apps.
[04:34] <bonbonthejon> brad_: either ndiswrapper or bcm43xx
[04:34] <brad_> bcm43xx
[04:35] <Aurote> hi :)
[04:35] <Aurote> Skype fails to load when I start it. A pastebin is here: http://paste.uni.cc/13670
[04:35] <Aurote> Can anybody help me?
[04:35] <SolidSource> alonea: if you are using the original sources.list from the install...a dependency may not be met
[04:36] <genii> brad_ Hangon I'll find something on this. I dealt with it before (bradcom with bcm43xx driver)
[04:36] <SolidSource> alonea: but some have to be installed via command such as java
[04:36] <Aurote> I already reinstalled it...
[04:37] <brad_> are airport extremes suppose too work?
[04:37] <SolidSource> alonea: and eclipse installed fine through adept for me
[04:37] <alonea> All I know is that Eclipse under adept could not find java at all no matter how many ways I wrote where java was. I installed manually and had noo problems at all. Most stuff I install manually works better than adept. '
[04:37] <fignew> Aurote: have you installed libqt3-mt ?
[04:38] <SolidSource> alonea: you need to update your sources.list...
[04:38] <alonea> especially bad when I tried to use repositories to install binary drivers for video card...
[04:38] <genii> brad_ here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[04:38] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > alonea
[04:38] <alonea> the fetch updates thing?
[04:38] <Aurote> fignew: I dont think so I will check it
[04:39] <SolidSource> alonea: no, replace the sources.list....so you can have the repos needed for things
[04:39] <Ashex> bah, this is total retardation
[04:39] <Ashex> so, smb4k 0.7.5 has a serious bug where it corrupts the sudoers file
[04:39] <smorg> Can someone help me with getting a modem working with KPPP?
[04:39] <Ashex> this was back in october
[04:39] <Ashex> a fix was released, but it was commited to edgy
[04:39] <alonea> Ok, how do I get these media programs to look in the right place for the codecs?
[04:40] <Ashex> er
[04:40] <Ashex> fiesty
[04:40] <Aurote> fignew:But skype already worked for several days ...
[04:40] <Ashex> so, this bug still exists in edgy
[04:41] <brad_> awesome...thanks
[04:41] <fignew> Aurote: no idea, perhaps you can reinstall skype :/
[04:42] <Aurote> fignew:I already did that and I have this libqt3-mt
[04:42] <fignew> Aurote: you could also try running it with sudo
[04:43] <Aurote> fignew: it is the same result
[04:43] <Aurote> fignew: but thank you :)
[04:43] <razzorz> hey fignew... so if i have this correct.. due to the ubuntu i installed i may be restricted for the media i can playback?..
[04:44] <fignew> razzorz: could you rephrase? do you mean will you be able to playback everything?
[04:44] <SolidSource> alonea: if you use adept to install mplayer and such then they will automatically find them
[04:44] <razzorz> no i mean i won't be able to paly back some dvd's
[04:45] <razzorz> due to the copywrite
[04:45] <alonea> SolidSource: I did that and still no go.
[04:45] <fignew> ermm, playing a DVD is _NOT_ against copyright
[04:45] <alonea> and I put the binaries I got earlier is /usr/local/lib/codecs too
[04:45] <fignew> all DVDs will play under Linux assuming DeCSS is installed
[04:45] <SolidSource> alonea: ok what did you install? libxine-extracodecs, mplayer, w32codecs, etc?
[04:46] <razzorz> fignew :i c..ty
[04:47] <SolidSource> alonea: but libxine, w32codecs are in /usr/lib
[04:47] <razzorz> fignew: what is the diff between "kubuntu, edubuntu,.,ect
[04:48] <alonea> SolidSource: pretty much. Though I had to grab the codecs from Linux x86 binary, which worked fine yesterday on a different distro. AMD64 doesn't have them.
[04:49] <fignew> razzorz: lol, Kubuntu uses KDE as the Desktop, Ubuntu uses Gnome, Edubuntu uses Gnome, but is meant for schools
[04:49] <SolidSource> alonea: ubuntu is not like most distros....I am using AMD64...libxine-extracodecs, mplayer, etc are available....w32codecs yoiu have to manually install (the deb with --force-all)
[04:50] <Aurote> Skype fails to load when I start it. A pastebin is here: http://paste.uni.cc/13670
[04:50] <alonea> SolidSource: Mplayer said they are supposed to go where I said and thats where XIne found them last time. I can try in /usr/lib
[04:51] <fignew> SolidSource: w32codecs with 64 bit?
[04:51] <SolidSource> fignew: yes, it works
[04:52] <Valued> Anyone: I'm in the process of setting up a Kubuntu partition, and I want to copy files from a prior distro (ie: kmail, etc.) on my old partition. How do I do this when they are all locked?
[04:52] <fignew> Valued: locked?
[04:52] <SolidSource> alonea: first forget about other distros....they are not like ubuntu
[04:52] <alonea> SolidSource: Er, when I put on Mplayer with adept does it make a link in the K Menu
[04:53] <SolidSource> alonea: yes
[04:53] <fignew> alonea: give it a minute, it'll show up
[04:53] <alonea> SolidSource: Well, I would be using other distros if they actually worked..gentoo would not install
[04:53] <alonea> Umm, Movie Player/
[04:53] <alonea> Because thats Totem...
[04:53] <SolidSource> alonea: if you use adept, you will have fewer problems
[04:54] <fignew> SolidSource: over apt-get?
[04:54] <alonea> SolidSource: for the last time, I tried installing Mplayer with adept and I dont see it anywhere.
[04:54] <fignew> alonea: <alt> F2
[04:54] <SolidSource> fignew: apt-get does essentially the samething
[04:54] <fignew> then type in mplayer
[04:54] <fignew> SolidSource: I know ;)
[04:55] <alonea> fignew: could not run
[04:55] <SolidSource> alonea: its probably broken then
[04:55] <fignew> open up the konsole
[04:55] <fignew> and run it there, and see what error message it gives you
[04:55] <alonea> SolidSource: most likely since adept wont install anything at all now
[04:56] <ForgeAus> grrr broken packages and versioning... it drives me crazy!
[04:56] <SolidSource> alonea: no, its probably due to adept looking for something and its not where it should be
[04:56] <ForgeAus> or a missing dependancy
[04:56] <alonea> SolidSource: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a : I thought this was supposed to fix it, but I get errors when I run it. it started failing everything right after I did it
[04:56] <test_> hello
[04:57] <fignew> alonea: what is the exact error?
[04:57] <SolidSource> alonea: try running it again and pastebin the error
[04:57] <test_> wow this is my first time useing Ubuntu
[04:57] <test_> it's cool
[04:57] <fignew> test_: good times :)
[04:58] <ForgeAus> test its nice uh? :)
[04:58] <test_> ya real eazy to install and run. updats are peace of cake
[04:59] <ForgeAus> hehe they can be
[04:59] <test_> im bad at type comands so i like ubuntu then gentoo
[04:59] <Skuller> hey guys. if i use the LIVEDVD to install kubun and use the dvd to get the packages from (most probably they will be old versions) and i update them, will i have to download the whole package again or just the 'update' for the software?
[04:59] <ForgeAus> yeah I like gui too
[04:59] <SolidSource> Skuller: you download whole packages
[05:00] <Skuller> SolidSource: so dvd has no advantage over cd?
[05:00] <alonea> SolidSource: the compile error?
[05:00] <genii> Skuller So long as you don't clean out /var/cache/apt/archives you should do fine
[05:00] <test_> is there a way to change the gui in ubuntu with out knowing alot of shit or little
[05:00] <SolidSource> Skuller: not really
[05:00] <ForgeAus> wait there DVD has ONE SET of packages
[05:00] <ForgeAus> the online updates arr another SET of packages
[05:00] <SolidSource> alonea: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the error
[05:00] <Skuller> genii: what advantage do i have if i dont delete those files?
[05:01] <genii> Skuller Sorry, for update, yes will d/l entire files again
[05:01] <Skuller> so is there ANY advantage of using/installing from DVD rather than CD?
[05:01] <ForgeAus> but not like DVD-sized files
[05:01] <ForgeAus> Skuller that depends on the CD
[05:02] <genii> Skuller: Anyways, that is where all the installation (deb) files which get installed stay after they have been installed
[05:02] <Morvok> faster transfer?
[05:02] <ForgeAus> and what packages are on it vs the DV vs online ones
[05:02] <fignew> Skuller: yes, more packages, so If you wanted a non-standard package, you might be able to get it from the DVD instead of the internet
[05:02] <SolidSource> Skuller: no, the DVD only really has more programs to be abl eto be used as you are in the LIVE session
[05:02] <Valued> test: what do you want to do to the gui?
[05:03] <ForgeAus> SolidSource, like say QCAD and Koffice and stuff?
[05:03] <ForgeAus> it doesn't actually install more packages?
[05:03] <Skuller> genii: SolidSource: thanks...i guess the dvd is nothing better to be installing the OS from
[05:03] <ForgeAus> it just has more packages pre-installed on it
[05:04] <alonea> there something else besides pastebin? its not appearing to work..
[05:04] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: no it doesn;'t really install any more packages
[05:04] <test_> can i install windows .exe games on ubuntu?
[05:04] <SolidSource> alonea www.pastebin.sk
[05:04] <ForgeAus> isn't it better to have them install on startup from packages on the DVD :) ? kinda like klik?
[05:04] <Skuller> SolidSource: you mean to say that all softwares that get installed after u install the OS from a DVD are the same as from a cd?
[05:04] <Valued> test: yes, if you use Wine. If you've got Windows, you can install it with VMWare Player or VIrtualBox.
[05:04] <alonea> ok, this one works...
[05:04] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: yes
[05:05] <SolidSource> Skuller: yes
[05:05] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: I mean, the DVD install and the CD have the same base install
[05:05] <alonea> ok, here is the compile thing for mplayer http://pastebin.ca/394248
[05:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: so its only the 'extra' packages that we want that we can install from the dvd....or get it from the interne and also their latest versionn is it?
[05:06] <Skuller> ohh...cool...they have same base install
[05:06] <Skuller> so i wasted my 1 week downloading the kubun dvd
[05:06] <ForgeAus> Solid yeah I get it... its just the live image thats different, it'd be nicer if the live image was somehow able to be built from packages rather than just the image
[05:06] <ForgeAus> Skuller basically yeah
[05:06] <test_> i dont see wine in my progame list. and i did all the addons on ubuntu
[05:06] <ForgeAus> when you could have got the same install from the CD...
[05:06] <ForgeAus> but you do have more options to use the DVD when you use it as a LiveDVD
[05:06] <SolidSource> alonea: thats what you get from running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[05:07] <alonea> SolidSource: hang on already! http://pastebin.ca/394249 there.
[05:07] <Valued> Test: It should be there, I just installed it under Kubuntu 6.10. Well... I'm *currently* installing it.
[05:08] <ForgeAus> Solid whats different about the base install from the CD to the live CD? seems to have all the same pacakges... only difference seems to be the installer is missing...
[05:08] <Morvok> what is a good package to use tv-in.. (hopefully supporting ins on each of the 3 video cards)?
[05:08] <Valued> It was located somewhere odd, like in 'Extras' with the screensavers or something. I'm using the Adept installer.
[05:08] <ForgeAus> also *some* packages even pre-installed its ok to copy them into a kubuntu installation but adept most likely won't know about them...
[05:09] <Morvok> mplayer?
[05:09] <alonea> SolidSource: ok, nm completely on adept. I got the error off by purging that pkg
[05:09] <test_> ok brb i will keep looking
[05:09] <SolidSource> alonea: the package was broken from the start probably
[05:10] <ForgeAus> hmmm I really need feisty I think
[05:10] <ForgeAus> unless it breaks my edgy
[05:10] <ForgeAus> but I'm not going to know that until I try it most likely
[05:10] <Dr_willis> wait a month or so then. :)
[05:10] <alonea> SolidSource: Still need to figure what I am missing or why mplayer isn't compiling..
[05:10] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: just wait till its released
[05:10] <Valued> Gurus: How do I copy stuff from another partition (of another distro) when the directories are locked?
[05:11] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis i'm waiting until the kubuntu distribution upgrade tool is available
[05:11] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  heh.. im not sure that will happen soon. :)
[05:11] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis then I won't updgrade soon
[05:11] <alonea> SolidSource: and the only mplayer i see on adept is kmplayer. think thats totem
[05:11] <Dr_willis> then again. given the disasters the last 'upgrades' have been with many people. I find a clean reinstall much safer
[05:11] <SolidSource> alonea: kmplayer is mplayer for konqueror
[05:12] <alonea> SolidSource: ok, then where is mplayer?
[05:12] <SolidSource> alonea: go into adept and search for mplayer, then select details and it will show you what is required for mplayer install
[05:12] <ForgeAus> (once I have I'll get the LiveCD to go with it... I have a few friends asking for a copy but I havn't given it out because my current Live CD I think its slightly corrupt... Open Office and the power manager/kcmdisplay module are damaged/non-functional)
[05:12] <Skuller> Dr_willis: am with you there...clean install is the way to go according to me no matter how much time someone spent in customising the OS
[05:12] <alonea> SolidSource: its not showing up. only kmplayer
[05:12] <ForgeAus> I still can't get kcmdisplay working... but OOffice updates nicely functions nicely after a base install...
[05:12] <Dr_willis> and with me keeping my /home on its own hd.. that makes it that much easier
[05:13] <SolidSource> alonea: fetch updates
[05:13] <alonea> SolidSource: Nope. still not here
[05:13] <Skuller> Dr_willis: if we dont delete the /home partition and do a clean install of feisty later on will it have any problems?
[05:13] <alonea> SolidSource: Is it on a repo that is not on the list it comes with?
[05:13] <SolidSource> alonea: ok, you need a new sources.list so that the right repos are available
[05:14] <ForgeAus> but then I've added lotsa subsystems into my kubuntu that probably shouldn't b there ... like some manually copied some binaries from slackware packages... and I now have BSD's pkgsrc and a few others built into my kubuntu distro
[05:14] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > alonea
[05:14] <ForgeAus> mind you I havn't successfully installed any BSD packages into it yet....
[05:14] <SolidSource> alonea:  the one that is default on the system doesn't have much at all
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Skuller,   shouldent have any problems.  ive not had any.
[05:15] <Skuller> cool
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  only issue ive seen is that some times the newer gnome or kde may not like the old gnome/kde settings - but thats easially fixed
[05:15] <razzorz> anyone wanna give me the skiny on a good dvd/cd burning app
[05:15] <ForgeAus> theres a few discrepancies between xfree and xorg I found too.. but mostly that was just a matter of putting symbolic links in places xfree expected them
[05:15] <Skuller> Dr_willis: u mean those settings reside in /home?
[05:16] <Valued> raxxorz: use K3B.
[05:16] <alonea> SolidSource: where is the file that I can edit to put this in?
[05:16] <ForgeAus> does feisty use X11R7? or still X11R6?
[05:16] <razzorz> thanks
[05:17] <test_> wow Ubuntu with all the addons i could get with updats uses about 6gb
[05:17] <Valued> anyone want to help? I've just run into a problem with Adept. I chose vmware-player, and it's stuck. <Show Details> displays a text-based popup with a EULA. How do I click the 'OK' button on it?
[05:17] <ForgeAus> really? thats smaller than I thought!
[05:17] <Skuller> test_: hehe..i am envious you have the bandwidth to get that much
[05:17] <test_> it's just dsl 3.0mbs
[05:17] <SolidSource> alonea: ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:18] <Skuller> test_: yea..only about 24 times faster than my 128kbps adsl
[05:18] <test_> make you a wifi cannon and jump on some ones
[05:18] <razzorz> valued:  happen to have a link to kb3
[05:18] <razzorz> lol
[05:18] <test_> the updates only download at 192kbs
[05:18] <Skuller> ??
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  each user has their own settings in their home dir.. yes...
[05:19] <Skuller> Dr_willis: oh then i will stick with a whole reformat....thanks :)
[05:19] <SolidSource> alonea: you will need to follow those instructions at the top of the new list
[05:19] <Valued> razzorz: it's usually part of the distro. It's under 'Multimedia' under Kubuntu 6.10.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  why - you aint gaining mychg by formating /home
[05:19] <razzorz> on the disk i assume
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  given that my user has a few gb+ of data files. :) i will keep home all by itself.
[05:19] <razzorz> not in the distro
[05:20] <Valued> razzorz: odd. you should find it in adept.
[05:20] <razzorz> adept?
[05:20] <Skuller> Dr_willis: i guess my personal preference of a 'refurnishment' backs the idea up....yea you have a diff case since u ave a lot of data....
[05:20] <test_> valued :  dont see wine any ware. maybe it's becouse i got 6.6 with updates
[05:20] <Valued> razzorz: the 'Adept Installer' = 'Add/Remove Programs'
[05:21] <razzorz> Valued. yes i am there
[05:21] <Skuller> Dr_willis: i move all my downloaded data to ntfs volumes...so np with a clean install of /home as well
[05:21] <razzorz> and i still looking
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  of course i also want to keep my xchat configs, and firefox settings/exetnsions/bookmarks, and so forth.
[05:21] <razzorz>  Valued .:and i don't see mulitmedia
[05:21] <Valued> test: I'm on 6.10, so that's probably it.  How do I properly kill the process?
[05:27] <alonea> SolidSource: I dont get it...it says something about a key in the file, but what file and what key? I am just looking at text on a page
[05:28] <Skuller> gpg?
[05:28] <SolidSource> Valued: you need to kill adept so ALT+F2 and type "kdesu ksysguard"
[05:28] <Skuller> i guess the key is in sources.list?
[05:28] <razzorz> wow
[05:28] <alonea> yeah, I mean, cant I just copy and paste this somewhere?
[05:28] <SolidSource> alonea: the key is in the sources.list above each set of repos
[05:28] <razzorz> solidsource: that was my fist quistion of the day was the codec
[05:28] <SolidSource> razzorz: and you installed them?
[05:29] <SolidSource> razzorz: or no answer?
[05:29] <alonea> oh! ok, i see, but do I have to do that for each one over and over? With both lists thats around 10
[05:29] <razzorz> solidosurce: would come to think i did not
[05:29] <alonea> more than 10
[05:29] <SolidSource> alonea: no just need to do it once for each key....
[05:29] <Valued> SolidSource: Thanks, killed it, ran dpkg.
[05:29] <SolidSource> !mp3 > razzorz
[05:30] <SolidSource> !dvd > razzorz
[05:30] <SeSqurl> I can't load Kaffeine anymore, I only ran it once and it crashed.  I have never had it load since.
[05:30] <SolidSource> alonea: theres really only 4
[05:30] <r3factored> evening, im trying to run eclipse on kubuntu edgy amd64 but get an error saying it cant find 'qtengine' in the module path. Im not sure if this is a missing lib or an amd64 32bit compatibility problem. I do run other apps in 32bit mode so not sure.
[05:31] <SolidSource> r3factored: you need to install ia32 libraries
[05:31] <razzorz> solid: ty but i think i have more issues then just knowing where they are..
[05:31] <r3factored> SolidSource: did that already
[05:31] <r3factored> SolidSource: im running firefox32 now
[05:31] <tesla> Does anyone here know of a way to find out the chipset of a wificard? :)
[05:32] <SolidSource> razzorz: how so?
[05:32] <razzorz> what the hell am i looking for
[05:32] <r3factored> SolidSource: thats why im a little perplexed - additionally i have another program that will not run saying it needs 'gtk2' libraries but ive installed almost every package available
[05:32] <tesla> I've tried lspci, but that doesn't seem to tell me anything about the chipset
[05:32] <r3factored> tesla: lspci or modprobe -l ?
[05:33] <tesla> r3factored, I'll try modprobe
[05:33] <razzorz> Solid: i guess i am a hands on doin once get it do it twice to understand it.. but since i have not did it at alli am sorta preplexed
[05:33] <r3factored> tesla: i think that might give it
[05:33] <SolidSource> razzorz: ok, what specifically are you trying to do?
[05:33] <razzorz>  solid: mind my lingo .. i hope you understoood
[05:34] <razzorz> i want my codec installed
[05:34] <razzorz> sorry Solid:
[05:34] <SolidSource> r3factored: yeah I've seen that qtengine error....
[05:34] <r3factored> tesla: additionally i believe you can see it in the device manager even though it cant use it lol
[05:34] <tesla> r3factored, I that only gave me the name of the driver
[05:34] <alonea> SolidSource: Do I need to do both lists?
[05:35] <tesla> :-)
[05:35] <r3factored> SolidSource: yeah its driving me nuts - however 64 bit runs very well.
[05:35] <draik> Would anyone know where I can get help for setting up my scanner, Cannon CanoScan D646U?
[05:35] <SolidSource> razzorz: those things ubotu should explain how to install...but in any case...for mp3 open konsole and type: "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[05:35] <r3factored> tesla im trying toremember how i did that when i battling hell with broadcomm drivers on another machine
[05:35] <razzorz> ok
[05:35] <alonea> SolidSource: and are the new links supposed to show up in the manage repo screen?
[05:35] <SolidSource> alonea: NOOO....you replace everything in the originall list with the stuff source-o-matic gave you
[05:36] <dsmith> hi, has anyone used the paid ubuntu support?
[05:36] <SolidSource> alonea: you need to exit adept
[05:36] <r3factored> tesla: check dmesg also or syslog i seem to recall it listed the info in there despite not being able to use it
[05:36] <tesla> r3factored lol, my friend used to have a broadcom card, and it gave him a lot of hell too :(  Currently I have an intel card, and it works just fine unless I try to connect to a wlan with WEP
[05:36] <alonea> SolidSource: I am confused...I did the gpg thing and I reloaded adept and still no mplayer...
[05:36] <SolidSource> razzorz: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:37] <tesla> r3factored: okay thanks :)
[05:37] <SolidSource> alonea: fetch updates
[05:37] <alonea> SolidSource: did that...
[05:37] <dsmith> I am getting ready to deploy ubuntu desktops and am wondering if it is worth paying for support or not
[05:37] <razzorz> ok
[05:37] <razzorz> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:37] <razzorz> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:37] <razzorz> is only available from another source
[05:37] <razzorz> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidat
[05:37] <razzorz> SORRY
[05:37] <r3factored> SolidSource: im thinking about just building gtk from source.
[05:37] <tesla> telsa: dksl
[05:37] <SolidSource> razzorz: don't do that
[05:38] <r3factored> tesla: is it a broadcomm?
[05:38] <razzorz> ya i know
[05:38] <SolidSource> !pastebin > razzorz
[05:38] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > razzorz
[05:38] <tesla> r3factored: nope, it's Intel Wireless/PRO 2200
[05:38] <AxlRose> tesla as in the band?
[05:39] <SolidSource> alonea: you copied what source-o-matic gave you and pasted it over everything in the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:39] <r3factored> tesla: well at least its not a broadcomm that driver is biggest PITA to get working.
[05:39] <SolidSource> alonea: and saved it
[05:39] <tesla> AxlRose: nah, the scientist :)
[05:39] <AxlRose> telsa:  booooo :P
[05:39] <r3factored> as in tesla coils
[05:39] <tesla> yeah
[05:39] <tesla> Or like the unit of magnetism
[05:39] <AxlRose> or like a great band :D
[05:39] <r3factored> yeah that guy was amazing
[05:40] <tesla> r3factored: Agreed!
[05:40] <alonea> SolidSource: no. I asked if there was a file and you said follow instructions which just says the gpg key thing.
[05:40] <SolidSource> alonea: no I said to copy over it
[05:41] <SolidSource> alonea: but do it again.....and then save it and close, then run those commands
[05:41] <alonea> SolidSource: save what? and where?
[05:41] <tesla> r3factored: Yeah.. I'm having no luck finding out what the chipset is.. do you think it would be possible to find out online by searching the card name?
[05:41] <dsmith> #canonical
[05:42] <r3factored> tesla what machine?
[05:42] <tesla> hp dv400
[05:42] <SolidSource> alonea: ok... hit ALT+F2 and type: kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:42] <r3factored> ok so it came with the machine?
[05:43] <SolidSource> alonea: then copy what supplied here http://pastebin.sk/1072/ over all that is in that file
[05:43] <edward_> it there a way to clean up temp files like in  windows?
[05:43] <r3factored> i would go to hp and look for the machine specs and see whats listed, and/or go to the intel site or search for specs for that card. they are out there you just have to find them.
[05:43] <r3factored> linux aka the tinkerers dream ;)
[05:43] <tesla> r3factored: I'll try that out.
[05:43] <SeSqurl> I fixed it, I guess I had more than one Kaffeine loaded, works now :)
[05:44] <SolidSource> alonea: then run these 2 commands (just copy and paste them) : http://pastebin.sk/en/1073/
[05:44] <r3factored> im still tinkering with my bluetooth headset to get working with skype hee hee
[05:44] <tesla> r3factored: I'm thinking about investing in a new card though..
[05:44] <SolidSource> alonea: the commands run in konsole
[05:44] <tesla> that's fun :)  I don't know much about using bluetooth
[05:44] <r3factored> tesla: one sec
[05:44] <tesla> r3factored: okay
[05:46] <`Z`> yop
[05:47] <SolidSource> alonea: got it now?
[05:48] <Morvok> anyone know how to grab the video-in off a video card?
[05:48] <alonea> SolidSource: I just copy pasted what was on that page to the soures.list I found and thats all I had to do..no commands or anything
[05:48] <SolidSource> alonea: actually you do need the commands for updating and installing via apt-get in konsole
[05:49] <r3factored> tesla: hp dv400 notebook correct?
[05:50] <r3factored> tesla: that a pavillion?
[05:50] <alonea> SolidSource: Why? Mplayer showed up finally and installed, though when I try to watch video I get -vo thing
[05:50] <SolidSource> alonea: in order to open the full range of the repos and have no errors show up
[05:52] <alonea> no errors have shown up so far...and on the page it says only go key thing IF you get errors. nto that you will. but to make you happy I will do it anyway
[05:52] <SolidSource> alonea: you won't see the errors in adept
[05:53] <SolidSource> alonea: but if your ok with it now...ok
[05:53] <alonea> SolidSource: when I di dcommands it said nothing changed..
[05:53] <tesla> r3factored: r3factored: Yep, sorry about the delay.. :P
[05:53] <r3factored> tesla:  k
[05:54] <SolidSource> alonea: but if you open konsole and run "sudo apt-get update" you will see if you need to use the commands
[05:55] <Valued> I'm in the process of moving from PCLOS to Kubuntu. I need to transfer files from one partition to another. Kubuntu sees the directories as locked. Is there an easy way to do this?
[05:55] <r3factored> tesla: i cant even find specs on that - how old is it?
[05:55] <edward_> anyway of deleting old temp files like done in windows?
[05:55] <alonea> SolidSource: ok, did that, and? was I supposed to get an error or something?
[05:56] <r3factored> tesla: its probably this: Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG
[05:56] <r3factored> A/AB/ABG one of those
[05:56] <Valued> edward: what sort of temp files?
[05:56] <SolidSource> alonea: you already ran the key commands, so probably not
[05:56] <tesla> r3factored a couple years..  Is that a chipset?  I'm kind of confused on what I'm looking for now :(  I know the card name is Intel Wireless/Pro 2200BG.. is that also the name of the chipset?
[05:57] <SolidSource> alonea: at least you said you ran them
[05:57] <r3factored> ahhh cool one sec - didnt know you had the model
[05:57] <alonea> SolidSource: twice it looks like
[05:57] <tesla> r3factored: I was looking for something along the lines of HERMES, or PRISM, or something like that
[05:57] <edward_> linux doesn't store temp files like done in windows?
[05:57] <alonea> SolidSource: know anything about not initializing the -vo?
[05:57] <SolidSource> alonea: you can run them as many times as you want...it will just keep overwritings
[05:57] <edward_> use to running system tools in windows to clean up temp files
[05:58] <r3factored> tesla: are you looking for a driver?
[05:58] <alonea> SolidSource: sorry I have been real short. I lack sleep and well, its just been a long day and I havent been in the best of moods.
[05:58] <tesla> r3factored: I'm looking for a chipset, sadly I must admit that I'm not perfectly sure what that is..
[05:58] <Valued> edward: Linux generally creates temp files in your home directory. They start with a '.' (like '.kde'), so by default, you don't see them.
[05:58] <r3factored> tesla: look here -> http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[05:59] <tesla> r3factored: I'm looking into getting a new wificard, and I was told that I should look for one with the HERMES, or PRISM2 chipset.  So I was curious what my current one was. :)
[05:59] <r3factored> ahh
[05:59] <Valued> edward: In Konqueror, go to 'View' in the menu, and turn on 'Show Hidden Files' and you'll see them.
[05:59] <SolidSource> alonea: that could be due to codecs....but not entirely sure...cause last I saw that one, I tried playing it again and the error didn't show
[05:59] <r3factored> tesla: also look here -> http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2200bg/
[05:59] <Valued> edward: Or are you referring to automatic backups?
[06:00] <tesla> r3factored: thanks!
[06:00] <r3factored> anytime
[06:00] <alonea> SolidSource: it did this on other distro too...probably need to install those evil binaries again for video card. no 3d accel without it.
[06:01] <Valued> edward: That is, some programs will automatically create backup files after some number of minutes have passed. These generally aren't hidden, they have a '~' in the name instead.
[06:01] <SolidSource> r3factored: have you tried using the blackdown java and nspluginwrapper so you can just run 64bit firefox?
[06:01] <tesla> r3factored: do you know if wificards with a plug for external antennae are still sold?
[06:01] <SolidSource> alonea: what video card do you have?
[06:01] <r3factored> SolidSource: nope i just installed it with the ia32 stuff. I have the exact instructions i saved in a file ;)
[06:01] <r3factored> SolidSource: apt-get install ... ...
[06:02] <Valued> edward: I assume you're worried that a bunch of temporary files are floating around your hard drive?
[06:02] <r3factored> tesla: they are for desktops i have several ;)
[06:02] <SolidSource> r3factored: I know, I've don't that before...but thats what I am using now and don't get the qtengine problem nor have I seen any other problems
[06:02] <SolidSource> don't=done
[06:03] <alonea> SolidSource: ATI Xpress 200. I did this last time I had kubuntu..just have to not do it from repo. it messes up biiiiiig time. I get nice pretty black screen when I come back if i do that.
[06:03] <alonea> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d01742cec183112be090e459b74129606e258f79
[06:03] <r3factored> SolidSource: ah you are using the apt-get or the blackdown?
[06:03] <r3factored> SolidSource: im building gtk from source now
[06:03] <SolidSource> r3factored: for java I used Blackdown
[06:04] <SolidSource> alonea: ok then you know about !ati
[06:04] <SolidSource> !ati > alonea
[06:04] <r3factored> SolidSource: thats interesting - you are thinking a dependency was resolved somewhere along the tree thats not getting satisfied.
[06:05] <SolidSource> r3factored: not exactly, the reason you are getting the qtengine error is because firefox32 can't access the 64bit qutengine
[06:06] <alonea> SolidSource: well, good luck to me on getting this on...pray I dont get black screen. I have having to reinstal video driver again with rescue
[06:06] <r3factored> SolidSource: but these errors only show up when running eclipse not firefox
[06:06] <r3factored> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[06:07] <SolidSource> r3factored: yeah, same error I was getting with firefox32
[06:07] <Annirak> ever since I started my upgrade to feisty, I've had weird screen issues.  My screen resolution slooks like it's slightly off, (everything is squished horizontally) and a lot of things shake, but not everything on the screen.  The Monitor and Display item of my System Settings window is also missing.  The icon is still there, but I get an error message saying it was orphaned when I try to run it.  I'm using the ATI drivers from
[06:07] <r3factored> hmmm
[06:07] <Annirak> ubuntu-restricted.
[06:07] <r3factored> SolidSource: AHA! dpkg -l shows 'un  gtk2.0-engines <none>         (no description available)
[06:07] <SolidSource> r3factored: well good luck with compiling 32bit GTK
[06:08] <r3factored> SolidSource: thanks i think i just found my problem
[06:08] <SolidSource> r3factored: the IA32 library isn't complete I think
[06:08] <r3factored> doesnt surprise me but ill take beryl over crappy vista any day anyway!
[06:08] <SolidSource> annirak ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:09] <Annirak> I figured the missing control panel item was kubuntu specific, but ok
[06:09] <SolidSource> Annirak: its a shared channel
[06:12] <alonea> ok...
[06:12] <alonea> dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: dpkg --search gave error exit status 1
[06:12] <alonea> dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256
[06:14] <alonea> oh and before that it said dpkg: /usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/libfglrx_gamma.so.1 not found.
[06:14] <root__> mmn,mm
[06:14] <tesla> r3factored: oh, I wanted one for my laptop to increase its range :)
[06:14] <root__> whois
[06:18] <iarwain> hi there, does anyone know how i can change my keyboard layout in Kdm?
[06:20] <aliveuser> iarwain, what happen if define a layout as default?? doesn't it affect kdm??
[06:20] <iarwain> aliveuser, i have set it to azerty, but kdm still uses qwerty
[06:20] <aliveuser> and it is the default??
[06:21] <iarwain> yes
[06:21] <stdin> iarwain: look for the "Option          "XkbLayout"" part in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <ulmolavender> how can I set up a script to be executed every 1/2 hour or so?
[06:21] <stdin> !cron | ulmolavender
[06:21] <ubotu> ulmolavender: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[06:21] <iarwain> stdin, looking =)
[06:21] <stdin> ulmolavender: you can use kcron as a gui to help with that too
[06:22] <iarwain> stdin and aliveuser, thanks for the help :D
[06:22] <ulmolavender> stdin: ooh, that sounds helpful! :D
[06:23] <aliveuser> edgy doesn't display boot process, just a progress bar, how could the boot process log enabled??
[06:23] <el_isma> Hello. I want to run xfs check over my / partition. how do I do it?
[06:23] <stdin> ulmolavender: it is :P cron can be confusing to get your head around the timings
[06:24] <stdin> aliveuser: remove "splash" from the boot options, in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:24] <aliveuser> tnks stdin
[06:24] <aliveuser> :D
[06:24] <Jucato> stdin: actually removing quiet will be enough
[06:24] <aliveuser> perfect
[06:24] <Jucato> removing splash will completely remove the bootsplash..
[06:24] <stdin> Jucato: not if splash is on
[06:24] <Jucato> removing quiet will get you the scrolling text in the bootsplash
[06:24] <stdin> Jucato: ahh, edgy doesn't display any messages does it
[06:24] <Jucato> (not sure if it's still true in feisty though)
[06:25] <stdin> Jucato: I forgot that :P
[06:25] <Jucato> :D
[06:25] <aliveuser> tnks stdin and jucato
[06:26] <mobkey> g++ doesnt have a nice gui? i have no idea whats going on here. i think i just got it to try to compile something
[06:26] <Jucato> O.o
[06:27] <Silveira_Neto> Some time ago, I used a distro with KDE that used to be this: when I was in a folder of videos, the icon of the video was a image preview of the video, like an screenshot. When I hover the mouse over the icon a little floating windows appears and showed a preview of the window. Where is that now? I can use it in Kubuntu?
[06:27] <el_isma> I'm running out of HD space... But I haven't been installing or downloading anything. Where's my space going?
[06:27] <Jucato> mobkey: C++ doesn't really have any GUI. it's just a language. you use a compiler to compile C++ code, like GCC. you can use an IDE to streamline your work process
[06:28] <stdin> el_isma: probably /var, use df to check, or kdirstat for a GUI
[06:28] <el_isma> already cleaned it
[06:28] <el_isma> and ran apt-get clean
[06:29] <Jucato> Silveira_Neto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 browse down to VIdeo Thumbnails in Kubuntu
[06:29] <mobkey> ya ok. i'm just used to visual studio on my other computer. i'll find something. and i said g++ not c++ :P
[06:29] <stdin> el_isma: and about your xfs check, install xfsprogs, which includes fsck.xfs then you can use fsck on /
[06:29] <Jucato> mobkey: G++ is the GCC compiler for C++
[06:29] <ulmolavender> stdin: so will checking daily and 30 have it run every half-hour?
[06:29] <Jucato> and Visual Studio is an IDE, not a compiler...
[06:29] <mobkey> ya. like i said, i'm used to visual studio, which is the compiler for windows, but of course its not command line
[06:29] <Jucato> mobkey: there's KDevelop for IDE in KDE
[06:30] <el_isma> stdin: but it's mounted... and xfs check won't run on mounted fs
[06:30] <mobkey> thanks
[06:30] <stdin> ulmolavender: make sure yo have all the hours selected too
[06:30] <ulmolavender> sankyou
[06:31] <mobkey> this irc client with the help channel right there is real convenient :)
[06:32] <stdin> el_isma: it should check at boot (not sure with xfs tho), but you can run it from a live CD if not. check "man fsck.xfs" (on konsole) or man:/fsck.xfs (in konqueror) for more info on it
[06:33] <el_isma> "fsck.xfs - do nothing, successfully"
[06:33] <el_isma> that's from the man page :D
[06:34] <stdin> hmm :P
[06:35] <stdin> el_isma: 'man xfs_check' then
[06:36] <el_isma> stdin: I know... but it still complains about the fs being mounted
[06:36] <stdin> el_isma: try mounting it read-only then, that should get you somewhere
[06:37] <el_isma> stdin: which runlevel is it? 1?
[06:37] <stdin> el_isma: you'll want to be in runlevel 1, but you'll have to remount the root partition as readonly manually
[06:38] <dmbkiwi> Hi
[06:38] <el_isma> stdin: umount and then mount ro ?
[06:38] <dmbkiwi> Anyone here using enlightenment e17?
[06:38] <stdin> el_isma: no, it would let you unmount it
[06:38] <dmbkiwi> I'm having trouble with mounting usb disks and cdroms/dvds
[06:38] <stdin> el_isma: like this: mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,ro
[06:39] <stdin> el_isma: it's the "-o remount,ro" bit you need
[06:39] <el_isma> stdin: thanks
[06:39] <stdin> :)
[06:40] <el_isma> stdin: so, telinit 1 to runlevel 1, remount, xfs_check, telinit 5 to runlevel 5 to get back up? or should I reboot?
[06:40] <stdin> el_isma: runlevel 2 is default, and you'll need to use "-o remount,rw" first
[06:41] <el_isma> stdin: oh, I thought it did that by itself. Ok, thanks!
[06:41] <el_isma> stdin: gonna try now... wish me luck :)
[06:41] <stdin> yw
[06:42] <stdin> and gl :)
[06:42] <el_isma> yw?
[06:42] <stdin> yw = you're welcome
[06:42] <el_isma> ok :)
[06:45] <alonea> *kills ati*
[06:48] <dmbkiwi> Anyone here using enlightenment e17?
[06:48] <dmbkiwi> I'm having trouble with mounting usb disks and cdroms/dvds
[06:49] <alonea> guess I will have to retry installing drivers...again
[06:49] <el_isma> stdin: I'm back... It won't let me remount, says / is busy
[06:50] <el_isma> stdin: Well... now this is some kind of magic :S df says I've got 1.8Gb free now :| how can it be?
[06:51] <stdin> el_isma: hmm, something has locked a file, or is writing to one. you'll have to try booting in to single user mode and remount from there
[06:52] <stdin> el_isma: and you can use du for a more detailed view, but look at the man page too, as du from / can take a long time
[06:52] <el_isma> how do I tell lilo to boot singleuser?
[06:53] <Axl_Rose> el_isma: you have to change the innitab
[06:53] <stdin> el_isma: no you don't
[06:53] <stdin> el_isma: just choose it ftom the grub menu
[06:53] <el_isma> stdin: I've got lilo
[06:53] <Axl_Rose> el_isma: nm...aparently ubuntu doesn't believe in the inittab
[06:54] <stdin> el_isma: you would have to be difficult :P
[06:54] <stdin> Axl_Rose: ubuntu still reads it, but upstart doesn't install it by default
[06:54] <el_isma> stdin: When I installed ubuntu, the installer said I should use lilo... So I did :) -I installed years ago-
[06:54] <stdin> Axl_Rose: it's handled in /etc/event.d/ now
[06:55] <Axl_Rose> stdin:  ahh ok
[06:55] <Axl_Rose> stdin: I'm more of a gentoo user :D
[06:55] <stdin> el_isma: does lilo allow you to edit the kernel boot options at boot time?