[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[07:32] <Concord_Dawn> breezy built on gcc 4?
[07:32] <logikal_> amarok is the nicer MP3 Plater...
[07:32] <irvin> is cupsd enabled by default?
[07:33] <topyli> Concord_Dawn: i think so
[07:33] <Concord_Dawn> hm
[07:33] <Concord_Dawn> should I build tomcat from source, or get it in binary?
[07:33] <topyli> Concord_Dawn: nope, gcc 3.4.5, sorry
[07:33] <sumon> need help in scp
[07:33] <sumon> how does it work?
[07:33] <logikal_> topyli, so should I get gcc 4.0?
[07:34] <topyli> logikal_: no, i was wrong
[07:34] <crimsun> you'll get gcc-4.0 as part of the Breezy dist-upgrade
[07:34] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[07:34] <crimsun> (if you have build-essential installed)
[07:34] <Concord_Dawn> should I build tomcat from source, or get it in binary?
[07:34] <logikal_> uhhh
[07:35] <luckyaba> how do i install php?
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> !php
[07:35] <ubotu> See !lamp
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> !lamp
[07:35] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> EW.
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> luckyaba, you could use lamp
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> I recommend using the PHP packages in the repos.
[07:35] <Hendric> does opera support flash, java, video streams??? just like ff??
[07:35] <Concord_Dawn> yes Hendric
[07:36] <Concord_Dawn> what's the difference from building from source and getting a binary?
[07:36] <bob2> there is no tomcat binary
[07:36] <crimsun> building from source creates a binary
[07:36] <Hendric> Concord_Dawn, that is soo cool... hopefully it does without the burden of firefox...
[07:36] <crimsun> (or binaries)
[07:36] <luckyaba> concord_dawn: lamp? is that the name of the package
[07:36] <luckyaba> ?
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> luckyaba follow the link that ubotu gave.
[07:37] <sumon> hmm
[07:37] <sumon> how does lamp works with ubuntu?
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> you install it
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> it works
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> no questions asked
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> mind you
[07:37] <Hendric> OMG.. opera installation did not place a menu... is this normal??????
[07:37] <lightstar> trace :  i tried uninstalling n reinstalling my anjuta..even as diff user...works fine..
[07:37] <sumon> you have sites-enables in ubuntu right?
[07:37] <XiDuS> xampp good for a lamp as well
[07:37] <Concord_Dawn> with apt, you can apt everything and it all works.
[07:38] <sumon> ya
[07:38] <sumon> i know
[07:38] <Concord_Dawn> sumon, yeah, if you install apache from the repos.
[07:38] <bob2> Hendric: please chill the hell out
[07:38] <bob2> Hendric: yes, it's normal
[07:38] <johnsie2> hmmmm.... I still cant get mplayer to play the videos on http://www.bbc.co.uk/news it plays a little bit and then stops
[07:38] <sumon> but say if you have multiple sites and multiple configuration files..
[07:38] <sumon> how you can do it in lampp?
[07:38] <Spudz0rz> Hey people, just wondering if anyone knows if i can get any kernel modules for the acer aspire 3002 (for ACPI), i needa read the battery, and currently it says it cant read it...
[07:39] <crimsun> Spudz0rz: are you running the Breezy RC?
[07:39] <Hendric> bob2, sorry. but i was expecting it to be a great software that places a menu for easy access.
[07:39] <Spudz0rz> crimsun, hoary atm
[07:39] <crimsun> Spudz0rz: please try the Breezy RC (see the topic)
[07:39] <sumon> breezy doesn't work
[07:39] <bob2> sumon: in what way?
[07:40] <sumon> i tried to install it .. it deleted all my configuration..
[07:40] <sumon> had to re-install hoary
[07:40] <bob2> sumon: this sounds like you didn't know what you were doing
[07:40] <Spudz0rz> :S
[07:41] <johnsie2> can anyone help me with my streaming wmv problem in mplayer?
[07:41] <sumon> ya i didn't know much that time..
[07:41] <sumon> i know a little better now..
[07:41] <Spudz0rz> crimsun, i would rather wait for the full release to come out instead of having a testing stage os... :P
[07:41] <Concord_Dawn> hm
[07:41] <topyli> sumon: just upgrade. you don't have to do a clean install of every release
[07:42] <logikal_> Ok
[07:42] <sumon> ya i did apt-get update
[07:42] <logikal_> I went ahead and got the build-essentials
[07:42] <logikal_> and im installing this now
[07:43] <logikal_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:43] <johnsie2> dang it I'm gonna have to resort to fox news now cos they are the only ones who whose flash instead of WMV
[07:43] <johnsie2> lol
[07:43] <crimsun> Spudz0rz: you do realize it's out in 7 days, right?
[07:43] <aztektum> google news
[07:43] <Spudz0rz> yeah i know
[07:43] <logikal_> johnsie
[07:43] <logikal_> you can get it working
[07:43] <crimsun> the RC is a very close approximation
[07:43] <logikal_> use the repositories
[07:43] <johnsie2> how?
[07:44] <crimsun> if you're not comfortable installing it, try the live cd
[07:44] <sumon> Dawn: how can you make lampp work with multiple httpd.conf
[07:45] <sumon> like ubuntu comes with 00default.conf
[07:45] <Concord_Dawn> you don't need multiple httpd.confs.
[07:45] <sumon> hmm.. what if you have different mod-rewrites ?
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> contain them inside a virtual server?
[07:46] <sumon> so you actually need multiple .confs for each of them correct?
[07:46] <logikal_> johnsie2, are you in ubuntu now?
[07:46] <johnsie2> yep
[07:46] <logikal_> gnome or kde?
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> anyways
[07:46] <johnsie2> gnome
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> g'night
[07:46] <sumon> hmm what if you want use 443
[07:46] <logikal_> go to
[07:46] <sumon> then you are thrown back to the other one right?
[07:46] <logikal_> find Synaptic Package installer
[07:47] <logikal_> it should be in system menu
[07:47] <sumon> ok gnite
[07:47] <sumon> brb
[07:48] <johnsie2> pakage manager?
[07:48] <durt> are you too lazy to simply read the news johnsie2?
[07:48] <johnsie2> no i wanna watch the videos on a news site
[07:48] <josh43> O, how do I find out if I have hardware 3d? glxgears goes 100% cpu, but fglrxinfo shows radeon 9800pro
[07:49] <logikal_> guys
[07:49] <logikal_> I want to
[07:49] <logikal_> apt-get install libx11-dev
[07:49] <logikal_> but it cant find it...
[07:49] <topyli> johnsie2: once you get the w32codecs and maybe realplayer, you can watch pretty much anything
[07:49] <josh43> logikal: what repositories do you have?
[07:49] <logikal_> universe and multiverse
[07:49] <johnsie2> i've been trying to get the w32 done
[07:49] <logikal_> enable all of those
[07:49] <logikal_> the look for gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:50] <josh43> johnsie2, You can also use vlc - that's a contained package with just about everything
[07:51] <johnsie2> yeah... I want it embedded in mozilla
[07:51] <NilXu> josh43: vlc as in video lan client?
[07:51] <josh43> NilXu, Yeah, they changed the name to just vlc now
[07:51] <durt> johnsie2: get mozplugger
[07:52] <winner> does anyone know how to use "Andale Mono" for rxvt?
[07:52] <johnsie2> how?
[07:52] <NilXu> josh43: right is it ain the base install or is does it have to be added?
[07:52] <topyli> johnsie2: vlc has a mozilla plugin. so does mplayer. so does totem
[07:52] <josh43> NilXu, I should know; I've been trying to compile it for 3 days ;)
[07:52] <durt> sudo apt-get install mozplugger
[07:52] <josh43> NilXu, It's in the repository assuming you dont have an athlon64
[07:52] <CSWookie> Anybody here use gnucash?
[07:52] <NilXu> josh43: thats correct
[07:53] <johnsie2> ok and what is mozplgger
[07:53] <josh43> NilXu, so... it's not in the base install, but it's addable
[07:53] <CSWookie> I'm trying to use it for accounts payable/recievable, and I'm not seeing how to do it.
[07:53] <NilXu> cool
[07:53] <josh43> So, how do I find out if I have hardware 3d? glxgears goes 100% cpu, but fglrxinfo shows radeon 9800pro
[07:54] <durt> mozplugger lets you view stuff (videos, audio, pdfs...) in your browser
[07:54] <oolon> hi all
[07:55] <topyli> josh43: glxinfo | grep direct
[07:55] <oolon> if i wanted to boot into cli instead of X do i edit the /etc/inittab or is there a better way?
[07:55] <johnsie2> ok... I've app-getted it... now what?
[07:55] <josh43> topyli: It shows yes.. does that mean hardware 3d, I assume?
[07:56] <topyli> josh43: yes
[07:56] <tritium> oolon, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[07:56] <tritium> no fussing with runlevels
[07:56] <josh43> topyli: Perfect.. now.. is there anything to test it on besides glxgears? :) (Have been trying to get hardware 3d in ubuntu for 7 months!!)
[07:56] <oolon> tritium, thanks :)
[07:56] <tritium> oolon, :)
[07:57] <durt> try the videos now johnsie2 (assuming you have mplayer installed)
[07:57] <josh43> durt: what's the best way to install mplayer in ubuntu?
[07:57] <johnsie2> it plays less then a second and then stops
[07:58] <tritium> josh43, use the ubuntu packages
[07:58] <lightstar> apt-get install mplayer
[07:58] <tritium> not quite
[07:58] <josh43> tritium: I was afraid of that.. none list for me yet... I assume it's an a64 thing
[07:58] <joe_> hi guys
[07:58] <durt> johnsie2: what is the url that your trying to play?
[07:58] <joe_> anyone got a good player to recommend?
[07:59] <joe_> realplayer quicktime
[07:59] <tritium> josh43, apt-cache search mplayer returns nothign?
[07:59] <lightstar> oops..apt-get install mplayer-386
[07:59] <johnsie2> anything in the http://news.bbc.co.uk/
[07:59] <tritium> nothing even?
[07:59] <josh43> tritium: Correct
[07:59] <topyli> josh43: try out a game. like tuxracer
[07:59] <joe_> _ligh do you have to be root to instll?
[07:59] <johnsie2> i tried cnn too and it did the same thing :-/
[08:00] <sumon> how do start mplayer?
[08:00] <lightstar> sumon : application->sound n video->mplayer
[08:00] <josh43> johnsie2, Why do you want it in the browser so bad anyways instead of in it's own window?
[08:01] <lightstar> or from console mplayer
[08:01] <jhonny> plz, what iochar should i use to configure a FAT partition? mine get problems with '' and '' chars
[08:01] <johnsie2> so it fits in with the way the site is designed
[08:01] <tritium> josh43, you're on amd64?  do you run a 32-bit chroot?
[08:01] <sumon> how do you install msn massanger in ubuntu?
[08:01] <johnsie2> lol
[08:01] <tritium> sumon, most people use gaim
[08:01] <propagandhi> or kopete
[08:01] <topyli> sumon: gaim should already be there
[08:02] <lightstar> sumon : gaim is cool..but if u really 1 msn close then amsn is the way
[08:02] <sumon> ya i knw amsn..
[08:02] <josh43> Uhm.... tuxracer just made me have to log in again
[08:02] <adiabatic> I take it ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.iso.torrent has been disabled because the RC is out now?
[08:02] <sumon> where is gaim?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> !gaim
[08:02] <ubotu> gaim is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[08:02] <josh43> sumon: applications>internet>gaim
[08:02] <lightstar> sumon : in applications->internet
[08:03] <topyli> sumon: in the menu, among other internet apps
[08:03] <josh43> that round goes to Hobbsee
[08:03] <Dreamer3> ok
[08:03] <Dreamer3> how can i stop eth0 from claiming the <IP_ADDRESS> route?
[08:03] <durt> johnsie2: sometimes only the intro sequence plays, but for others the actual video plays - i dont know why
[08:03] <Dreamer3> when i dial with wvdial my dial-up doesn't work cause everything is routed wrong
[08:04] <johnsie2> oh, thats ok.. thanks for the help anyway  :-)
[08:04] <johnsie2> i think it might be cos i dont have w32ocodecs
[08:04] <Hobbsee> josh43: *cheers*  what prize do i win for being the first reply?
[08:04] <joe_> ok it can't find the package mplayer
[08:04] <joe_> what do i do?
[08:05] <johnsie2> i tried the instructions from ubuntuguide.org and it gave me an error when I typed in the w32codecs line
[08:05] <tritium> joe_, apt-cache search mplayer to find the package for your arch
[08:05] <Linuxpie> hello everyone
[08:05] <joe_> i did that,
[08:05] <Dreamer3> anyone?
[08:05] <joe_> and says kerel for driver scaler on matrox
[08:05] <tritium> joe_, sounds like you don't have the multiverse repo listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <josh43> Hobbsee; Uhm.. this stuffed 3" penguin (you put your weed in there)
[08:06] <joe_> how do i enable?
[08:06] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:06] <tritium> !tell joe_ about repositories
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: ok :) and?
[08:06] <sumon> is there a scp client in ubuntu?
[08:06] <tritium> joe_, add multiverse repo, update, and try again
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: it looks about the same as on my deb box where i don't have this problem :)
[08:06] <tritium> yes, sumon
[08:06] <Hendric> any suggestion for a light weight file manager? nautilus is hungry too...
[08:06] <propagandhi> paste in the pastebin
[08:06] <joe_> thanks, i think i setup universe but not multi
[08:06] <joe_> i'll try it out
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: me?
[08:06] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: i'm at console
[08:06] <Hobbsee> josh43: ooh cute penguin!
[08:06] <joe_> tri thanks
[08:06] <tritium> sumon, it's in the openssh-client package
[08:07] <sumon> tri : where is scp client?
[08:07] <johnsie2> when i typed in sudo apt-get install w32codecs I got an error message
[08:07] <tritium> sumon, /usr/bin/scp (should already be in your path), part of the openssh-client package
[08:07] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: ahh ok
[08:07] <sumon> do I have to use command line for scp or can i use a gui?
[08:07] <johnsie2> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:07] <tritium> scp is a cli app, sumon.  If you want gui, try gftp
[08:08] <lightstar> sumon : u can use the gui..but the command line is much simpler
[08:08] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: anything in particular i'm looking for?
[08:08] <tritium> johnsie2, removed for legal reasons
[08:08] <johnsie2> is there anywhere else that it is available?
[08:08] <sumon> can you give me an example of scp in cli?
[08:08] <tritium> sumon, try "man scp" for details, ok?
[08:08] <tristanmike> !tell johnsie2 about w32codecs
[08:08] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: what is listed for eth0
[08:09] <lightstar> sumon : simplest scp command " scp <your file> user@server:" if u 1 2 copy things over
[08:09] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: inet static
[08:09] <Dreamer3> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <Dreamer3> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <sumon> whats the other way?
[08:10] <Dreamer3> gatweay <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: that's it
[08:10] <sumon> scp user@server filename localfilename?
[08:10] <tritium> lightstar, 1 2?
[08:10] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: a <IP_ADDRESS> route would be nice, but not <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <lightstar> tritup : want to...damn too used to using short cuts:P..bad bad
[08:11] <lightstar> tritum: damn spelling..1 2 = want to...damn too used to using short cuts:P..bad bad
[08:11] <johnsie2> what should I do once i download the w32codecs torrent?
[08:11] <prabu^> Hello all
[08:11] <logikal_> is it a tar.gz ?
[08:11] <prabu^> anyone have any idea how the support for ubuntu amd64 is ?
[08:11] <johnsie2> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:11] <prabu^> as in package availability,etc
[08:12] <Dreamer3> propagandhi: any thoguhts?
[08:12] <sumon> how do I know which version of ubuntu i have right now?
[08:12] <tristanmike> johnsie2, "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[08:12] <tristanmike> without quote
[08:12] <lui> johnsie2, why did u download the w32codecs, you could do it all with apt
[08:12] <johnsie2> ok then what?
[08:12] <tritium> sumon, lsb_release -a
[08:13] <tristanmike> enjoy
[08:13] <johnsie2> i cant it's not in apt anymore
[08:13] <tristanmike> lui, w32codecs removed for legal reasons
[08:13] <propagandhi> Dreamer3: so even with that info there eth0 is using <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:13] <sumon> so I have hoary 5.04
[08:13] <lui> oh, bad thing
[08:13] <sumon> if i want to make it breezy .. is it a good idea?
[08:14] <johnsie2> w32codecs covers wmv right?
[08:14] <joe_> tri_ i can't seem to get it to work
[08:14] <sumon> so you think all my config files will be the same?
[08:14] <lui> even from backports?
[08:14] <tristanmike> johnsie2, wmv9 on 32 bit, should be ok
[08:14] <tristanmike> lui, gone, poof, and java too
[08:14] <lui> java!!!?
[08:15] <joe_> _tritium i can't seem to get mplayer to install
[08:15] <tritium> lui, illegal to distribute it
[08:15] <lui> sh*tt!
[08:15] <tristanmike> lui, well, the "non-free" one
[08:15] <tritium> joe_, you have multiverse?  did you update?
[08:16] <tritium> joe_, which processor do you have?
[08:16] <joe_> an old pII
[08:16] <joe_> i did update
[08:16] <lui> what should we do to end with those dumb illegal things? >:(
[08:16] <joe_> at least ithnk i did
[08:16] <joe_> i did it in the root terminal
[08:16] <tritium> !info mplayer-586
[08:16] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[08:17] <joe_> ok i'll try
[08:17] <tritium> good luck, and good night, joe_
[08:17] <joe_> gnite
[08:17] <joe_> thanks again
[08:18] <lui> but libdvdcss2 is there right?
[08:18] <tristanmike> lui, nope, gone too
[08:19] <lui> oh my god....... this is bill gates thing! sure!!
[08:21] <sumon> can anybody give me some good things abt ubuntu.... good tools...??
[08:21] <lightstar> sumon : such as?
[08:22] <sumon> i am new to ubuntu..
[08:22] <sumon> so anything would help
[08:23] <lightstar> sumon : wat kinda r u looking 4? entertainment? games?
[08:23] <sumon> programming
[08:23] <sumon> hmm ya
[08:23] <sumon> also games
[08:24] <lightstar> sumon : for programming u might take a look at anjuta..its a pretty decent ide..supports c,c++,php,etc..
[08:24] <sumon> is there any good editor?
[08:24] <Hendric> on what package does xlib6g belongs?? need to apt-get it..
[08:24] <sumon> how can I get anjuta?
[08:24] <lightstar> sumon : as for games, the only ones i use are the default ones tat come with ubuntu...as for text editor i feel that gedit is fine
[08:24] <lightstar> sumon : apt-get install anjuta
[08:25] <bob2> anjuta isn't a very good editor
[08:25] <Hendric> bob2, can you help me with xlib6g ?? can't seem to find its package
[08:26] <lightstar> bob2 :  i have no complaints with it so far
[08:26] <sumon> i have Nvu..i think it comes with ubuntu
[08:27] <lightstar> sumon : if i aint mistaken isn't that for web authoring only?
[08:28] <bob2> Hendric: if you're trying to run opera, you should mention that in your question
[08:28] <sumon> light : hmm i think so.. ya..actually it is .. its kinda like frontpage . dreamweaver..
[08:28] <bob2> !+find xlib6g
[08:28] <lightstar> sumon : haha...u looking for a tool for specific programming language?
[08:29] <Hendric> bob2, its for opera.. trying to instal motif. sorry
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xlib6g' returned no results.
[08:29] <zorba64> Hendric: are you looking for libx11-6?
[08:29] <Hendric> zorba64, no xlib6g <-
[08:29] <bob2> Hendric: I really doubt opera needs motif
[08:30] <sumon> not really..
[08:30] <sumon> i am just looking what else can I do ...
[08:30] <sumon> any photoshop / paintshop kinda stuff?
[08:30] <bob2> sumon: gimp, which you already have installed
[08:30] <lightstar> sumon : gimp..haha..i dun do graphics editing..so i cant help ya much on tat
[08:30] <Hendric> can't seem to make flash work. i installed it using d one from macromedia... firefox works already.. not opera
[08:31] <zorba64> Hendric: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/libs/xlib6g
[08:31] <sumon> any car games??
[08:33] <LethAL> torcs is a good car game apparently
[08:33] <Hendric> tnx
[08:33] <LethAL> :-)
[08:33] <sumon> how can I get that?
[08:33] <sumon> torcs?
[08:33] <LethAL> sudo apt-get install torcs
[08:33] <LethAL> The Open Rally Car Simulator iirc
[08:34] <jmg> anyone using wpa?
[08:35] <zorba64> Hendric: http://www.tuxfinder.com/debian/description.php?name=xlib6g&mode=1
[08:37] <sumon> how can I play torcs?
[08:37] <LethAL> Press alt-f2 and type torcs in
[08:37] <sumon> oh how do I know if my soundcard is installed properly?
[08:37] <LethAL> When you can hear things
[08:37] <LethAL> :D
[08:38] <irvin> isn't cupsd enabled by default?
[08:39] <irvin> i can install my printer without any hassle but i can't print a test page
[08:39] <sumon> oops
[08:39] <melvztechie> guys, any MMORPG games compatible or can be run in ubuntu?
[08:39] <sumon> it didn't work
[08:39] <sumon> torcs
[08:40] <bob2> melvztechie: appdb.codeweavers.com
[08:40] <sumon> torcs closes after a little while
[08:41] <sumon> and I don't hear anything
[08:41] <sumon> Lethal: torcs doesn't work
[08:41] <melvztechie> bob2: i guess am gonna learn this app. first:D
[08:41] <sumon> and its not giving me any sound...
[08:42] <bob2> ?
[08:42] <sumon> so my soundcard is not installed properly..
[08:42] <bob2> it's a website
[08:42] <irvin> melvztechie, there are lots of native mmorpg games that can run
[08:42] <bob2> sumon: jumping to conclusions like that seems silly
[08:42] <sumon> bob2 : how can I check my sound card?
[08:43] <bob2> nevermind
[08:43] <logikal_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385926    anyone have any ideas? Compiling a theme for KDE
[08:43] <melvztechie> irvin: have u tried for example Gundbound? or Ragnarok?
[08:43] <melvztechie> irvin: or MUonline?
[08:43] <irvin> melvztechie, ahhh that kind.
[08:44] <melvztechie> irvin: yup?
[08:44] <irvin> melvztechie, MU runs fine but with font problems
[08:44] <ati> Hey everyone
[08:44] <maxmouse> im using breezy, is there a reason why wine isnt in the apt list ?
[08:44] <irvin> you'll need cedega
[08:44] <Hendric> !+find libXm.so.3
[08:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libXm.so.3' (1 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXm.so.3|libXm.so.3.0.2}) in multiverse/libs/libmotif3.
[08:45] <root__> hello
[08:45] <jmg> Hendric: libxaw3dg
[08:45] <logikal_> maxmouse, enable universe and multiverse in your repository browser in synaptic
[08:45] <jmg> er
[08:45] <root__> anyone here
[08:45] <jmg> yeah what he said
[08:45] <melvztechie> irvin: so do we have this in our repository or this is a third party appl?
[08:45] <jmg> root__: dont irc as root
[08:45] <root__> i cant irc with xchat as normal user i keep getting a bluetinited xchat
[08:46] <irvin> melvztechie, its commercial, but there's a free one from cvs. http://www.transgaming.org
[08:46] <Hendric> d repos are broken... W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu8_i386.deb
[08:46] <Hendric>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[08:46] <xuniluser> What printing command does Openoffice use? is it lpr?
[08:46] <melvztechie> irvin: oh i see, i thought its free, well ill check transgaming.org, thanks for the hint!!!
[08:46] <melvztechie> you guys really rock!! tanks
[08:48] <maxmouse> logikal_, hmm i did that, and when i do an apt-get install wine it still says there is no installation candidate
[08:48] <dooglus> Hendric: try this instead: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt-utils_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu9_i386.deb
[08:49] <logikal_> use synaptic maxmouse
[08:50] <dooglus> Hendric: what you probably need is "sudo apt-get update"
[08:50] <Hendric> k
[08:50] <dooglus> (but isn't that supposed to happen automatically?  or how does the update manager know there are updates?)
[08:51] <Hendric> it should happen automatically
[08:51] <Hendric> but well nothings perfect
[08:51] <damnhil>  how do I disable "never remember the password for the site " in konqueror?
[08:51] <dooglus> maxmouse: wine is in 'universe'.  you need to add the universe repositories
[08:52] <dooglus> damnhil: #kubuntu
[08:52] <aftertaf> damnhil:  areyou using kwallet for password storage?
[08:52] <maxmouse> dooglus, im pretty sure i just did that
[08:53] <damnhil> aftertaf,yes
[08:53] <dooglus> maxmouse: did you 'update' afterwards?
[08:53] <dooglus> !repositories
[08:53] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[08:53] <maxmouse> dooglast, does it not update itself?
[08:53] <maxmouse> dooglus even
[08:53] <maxmouse> sorry ;)
[08:53] <dooglus> maxmouse: I don't know.  it's been months since I added anything
[08:54] <maxmouse> oh ok
[08:55] <logikal_> Someone want to look at this?
[08:55] <logikal_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/385930
[08:55] <logikal_> I got that when doing "make" when trying to compile a theme
[08:55] <logikal_> for KDE
[08:57] <aftertaf> logikal_:  try make clean first.....
[08:57] <bob2> logikal_: the makefile or instructions are broken
[08:57] <aftertaf> or am i completely off the track??
[08:57] <Gimp`> hey
[08:58] <bob2> oh, and the tarball is screwed up
[08:58] <Gimp`> how would i mount a ntfs drive in ubuntu?
[08:58] <bob2> Gimp`: /msg ubotu ntfs
[08:59] <erick> hi bob2
[09:00] <logikal_> I tried make clean
[09:00] <logikal_> this is what it gives me
[09:00] <erick> just want to ask if yahoo messenger with webcam possible in ubuntu?
[09:00] <logikal_> ake[1] : Entering directory `/home/logikal/QtCurve-0.23.1/QtCurve-0.23.1'
[09:00] <logikal_> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[09:00] <logikal_> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/logikal/QtCurve-0.23.1/QtCurve-0.23.1'
[09:00] <logikal_> make: *** [clean-recursive]  Error 1
[09:00] <Hendric> erick, not possible
[09:00] <natescape> is there a linux version of yahoo messenger?
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> natescape, yes - but I'd use gaim if I were you
[09:00] <bob2> natescape: yes, and it's shit
[09:00] <bob2> natescape: use gaim
[09:01] <bob2> logikal_: the source is broken, talk to whoever made it
[09:01] <bob2> (ie the author)
[09:01] <erick> hendrick, what alternative messenger that can used with webcam
[09:01] <logikal_> well a guy on another channel did it fine
[09:01] <irvin> erick, gyach or ayttm
[09:01] <ColonelKernel> gyach? isnt that what snoop calls women/
[09:02] <Gimp|> woot
[09:02] <Gimp|> thx bob :)
[09:02] <erick> irvin thanks, i will research for that
[09:02] <erick> does gimp support webcam
[09:02] <ColonelKernel> not yahoo webcam
[09:03] <erick> yeah not yahoo,i want to use my webcam in gaim, but how? or it is possible or should I use gyach or ayttm
[09:04] <bobot> hello... anyone using amarok in ubuntu 5.04? i can't play mp3s...
[09:04] <irvin> erick, you'll want to have gaim-vv instead
[09:04] <erick> gaim-vv? another version of gaim?
[09:04] <Gimp|> hmm
[09:04] <sumon> how can I see what applications I have in ubuntu right now?
[09:04] <Gimp|> ubuntu cant play mp3 files by default?
[09:05] <Hendric> erick, i use gyach with webcams perfectly..
[09:05] <sumon> or is there anyways to see what can I get from apt-get install?
[09:05] <erick> hendric, can I use sudo apt-get install gyach to install this packages
[09:05] <Jedrick> is it ok to run two terminals at a time
[09:06] <epic___> sure is Jedrick
[09:06] <gopi> hi
[09:06] <Jedrick> cause im updating using terminal and i want to launch another terminal to unpack sumthing
[09:06] <Jedrick> is it ok?
[09:06] <epic___> run as many as you like
[09:06] <Jedrick> ok
[09:06] <epic___> sumon, use synaptic
[09:07] <erick> hendric can i use sudo apt-get install gyach?
[09:07] <melvztechie> Jedrick: Its linux, that what we call a very good multi-tasking feature
[09:07] <Hendric> erick, its not available on the repos
[09:07] <erick> hendric so I will search and install it manually
[09:08] <Hendric> erick, find the .rpm one.. then alien -i package.rpm
[09:08] <Jedrick> kool
[09:08] <Hendric> then type gyach on the terminal..
[09:08] <logikal_> How do i apply themes in KDE?
[09:09] <epic___> #kubuntu logikal_
[09:09] <erick> hendric, where can I get a list of commands that use in ubuntu, bcoz this is my 1st tym to used ubuntu
[09:09] <Hendric> erick, dunno sorry
[09:10] <erick> hendric based on your experience what basic cmd should I know just to survive with ubuntu
[09:10] <epic___> erick,   open a terminal and press TAB 4 or 5 times rapidly
[09:11] <Hendric> epic___ is right about that... press the TAB rapidly and it will ask if you want to see all the commands
[09:11] <N6REJ> does anyone know how to use aptitude?  I just installed Hoary and it says I have 2 broken files
[09:11] <erick> k i get -it epic thanks and hendric thanks also
[09:11] <N6REJ> It was trying to update after install
[09:12] <epic___> tab complete is your friend  :)
[09:12] <winner> what do you guys use to play wmvs?
[09:12] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:12] <N6REJ> aftertaf: so exit aptitude?
[09:12] <aftertaf> yep
[09:12] <aftertaf> harness the power of console ;)
[09:12] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, I'll try
[09:12] <Jedrick> how to know if my kernel supports ipv6
[09:13] <N6REJ> cc
[09:13] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  did you mean, installed breezy? you said Hoary.....
[09:13] <epic___> Jedrick, default ubuntu kernels support ipv
[09:14] <epic___> +6
[09:14] <N6REJ> aftertaf: no I installed Hoary the Hedgehog.  I tried 18x to install breezy and was unable to get it installed.  Course I was unable to get hoary to install b4 2nite either.  I was using a 700mb RW disc b4 and 2nite I reburned on a straight CD now that I have more.
[09:14] <Jedrick> ok
[09:15] <jerryg> i did not have my printer on when i installed ubuntu thus i no longer know if it is compatible.  is there a process i can go through to see if i can get it to work ?
[09:15] <Jedrick> so it supports ipv6?
[09:15] <N6REJ> so since its an ancient sytem ( p2-350 ) I thought I'd try hoary first and if that didn't work fall back to warta (?)
[09:15] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  knackered CD..... ?
[09:15] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  how much ram?
[09:15] <epic___> Jedrick, have you looked at ifconfig?
[09:15] <natescape> I have a serial cable running between two machines, and I can log in over the serial line (good).  But when I kill the getty and run "echo abcdefg > /dev/ttyS1" only the "abc" comes out on the other end.  Anyone got any theories as to why the rest gets truncated?
[09:15] <N6REJ> I think bad compatibility between cd drives and 700mb cdrw format
[09:15] <N6REJ> 384mb
[09:15] <N6REJ> :D
[09:15] <aftertaf> oki
[09:16] <N6REJ> old, but BIG BRAIN LOL
[09:16] <Jedrick> nope
[09:16] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  is it connected to the net?
[09:16] <N6REJ> yep
[09:16] <erick> guys gyach-1.9.8.tar.gz only available, how wil I install it
[09:16] <natescape> I'm guessing there's an stty setting I need to change, but I'm not sure which.
[09:16] <N6REJ> its nat'd though
[09:16] <epic___> anyhow, as I was saying, dafualt ubuntu kernels do, if you compile your own you will need to make sure you include it
[09:17] <epic___> erick, read the README and INSTALL files in gyach-1.9.8.tar.gz
[09:17] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  no pb.... can it contact the repositories?
[09:17] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I think so, I think it did and did a few files and thats when it had problems... let me hit enter now and see
[09:17] <erick> epic k thanks
[09:17] <anthony> I was wondering whether anyone know which file determines what programs are started on boot-up?  Currently I have Gaim opening when I start, and I'd like to remove that line, but I don't remember the file.
[09:18] <N6REJ> aftertaf: dpkg replied you must manually configure ......
[09:18] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  pastebin if big error message..... ;)
[09:18] <N6REJ> aftertaf: it CAN ping yahoo though.
[09:18] <GillesR> hi all
[09:18] <N6REJ> how, I"m not on it
[09:19] <aftertaf> salut GillesR :)
[09:19] <N6REJ> I'm on my windoze box, its sitting across the counter
[09:19] <aftertaf> hehe N6REJ
[09:19] <N6REJ> telnet in?
[09:19] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  have you set up the machineto connect to the reps? if so, do sudo apt-get update
[09:20] <GillesR> aftertaf: franais autoris ?
[09:20] <anthony> I remember seeing this file at one time, but simply don't remember it's location.  It's the one containing things such as Order: 50, Command: tpb -d.
[09:20] <aftertaf> GillesR:  pas trop....... :)    but there is ubuntu-fr is english is a pb :)
[09:20] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I installed the cd, answered the q's it said take out the cd, it rebooted, downloaded a few files, and then said it broken and put me in aptitude.
[09:20] <aftertaf> Im just doing my 'frimeur' by speaking frenh
[09:21] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  ok. can you do Alt F1 and open a console session?
[09:21] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yep, I'm in there now
[09:21] <aftertaf> oki
[09:21] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst
[09:21] <erick> epic what this error means, no acceptable C Compiler found $PATH Im installing gyach using ./configure
[09:22] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  get your apt setup correctly :)
[09:22] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I'm there
[09:22] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  <---- loves nano/pico
[09:22] <m00se> Hello
[09:22] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  ok, let me look at it, see if i can make heads or tails... brb
[09:22] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  ok. comment out cd deb line...., and uncomment the other deb http:// lines
[09:22] <GillesR> aftertaf: OK. I've just install Ubunto in a virtual PC session, but it's choose a too large screen resolution. I never see a normal screen and I don't know how change to a good resolution 800x600. can you help me please ?
[09:23] <m00se> can anyone help me with installing hoary on amd64?
[09:23] <porkbelly> would anyone be able to give me some help with installing ubuntu on a server, I seem to be stupid when it comes to scsi
[09:23] <aftertaf> GillesR:  you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and choose a lower default rsolution
[09:23] <aftertaf> lol porkbelly :)
[09:23] <porkbelly> :(
[09:24] <gaeshi> Hello!
[09:24] <porkbelly> hi
[09:24] <gaeshi> Please advise me some good tutorial for Linux
[09:25] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok back.  I commented out the first line which read "deb cdrom........" and uncommented the rest of the deb's.
[09:25] <GillesR> aftertaf: thank. I completely newbee. What do I write ? I'm currently on root...(
[09:25] <Chousuke> gaeshi: What do you want to learn in particular?
[09:25] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get update.....
[09:26] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok
[09:26] <oca> what minimum configuration that ubuntu satisfactorily run?
[09:26] <Chousuke> gaeshi: Look at the wikis, use google and if you want to learn more advanced topics too, rute.sf.net
[09:26] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I woulud like to start with anything
[09:26] <aftertaf> GillesR:  on root? do you mean you are in a terminal? as root?
[09:26] <Chousuke> RUTE teaches you some command line
[09:26] <gaeshi> but I don"t know what to start from
[09:27] <gaeshi> RUTE?
[09:27] <Chousuke> see the urls
[09:27] <Chousuke> -s
[09:27] <lightstar> gaeshi : tldp.org not bad as well...
[09:27] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, fetched a bunch of package lists, and then gave me the dpkg failure error again.
[09:27] <erick> gaeshi is ur ubuntu already installed
[09:27] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade ??
[09:27] <GillesR> aftertaf: the prompt is "root@xxxx:/etc/X11 #"
[09:27] <Chousuke> oh, damn
[09:27] <gaeshi> lightstar, I have watched tldp.org, but didn"t find anything simple enough - it"s just full of documentation
[09:28] <Chousuke> rute's sf site is down :(
[09:28] <nightyticki> rute is down Chousuke
[09:28] <aftertaf> GillesR:  oki... you opened a root terminal.
[09:28] <erick> epic i use the command ./confiure angd got this error no acceptable C compiler found in$PATH
[09:28] <gaeshi> erick, yes, I have installed UBUNTU already
[09:28] <aftertaf> GillesR:  we'll make a backup first ;)
[09:28] <Chousuke> nightyticki: hm :/
[09:28] <aftertaf> GillesR:  cp xorg.conf xorg.backup
[09:28] <lightstar> gaeshi : :)
[09:29] <gaeshi> Chousuke, for example
[09:29] <N6REJ> aftertaf: blah blah blah run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct..... Same error as before
[09:29] <gaeshi> I have installed the system
[09:29] <erick> gaeshi, try to explore fist on your ubuntu,its similar to windows do you want this machine connected to internet
[09:29] <GillesR> aftertaf: done
[09:29] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  what does dpkg blah say??
[09:29] <gaeshi> now I want to type in Japanese, but I cannot
[09:30] <erick> aftertaf I gues its debian package manager
[09:30] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok. cool.  Did you choose to open a 'root' terminal ??
[09:30] <aftertaf> erick:  that is borked on his system?
[09:30] <gaeshi> I have used Mandrake 10.1 before, and I didn"t have any problems typing Japanese
[09:30] <GillesR> aftertaf: At boot I have choose recovery boot
[09:30] <brownie17> does anyone know where i can get some extra themes?
[09:30] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ohhhh :O   ok
[09:31] <gaeshi> Now if I choose "Japanese"- it types only KATAKANA and nothing else
[09:31] <aftertaf> GillesR:  best be VERY careful then ;)
[09:31] <Chousuke> hmm, rute's here: http://rute.2038bug.com/
[09:31] <Chousuke> but it covers quite advanced topics
[09:31] <GillesR> aftertaf: I follow you like a blind
[09:31] <aftertaf> GillesR:  you have an editor called nano, and one called pico. Do you know either?
[09:31] <gaeshi> Chousuke, thx
[09:31] <N6REJ> aftertaf: ok, running dpkg config solved the problem.. its upgrading dist now.
[09:32] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  cool ;)
[09:32] <GillesR> aftertaf: nano run
[09:32] <Chousuke> gaeshi: you may need to look at other tutorials before you're ready for rute
[09:32] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok....   nano & pico is the same thing anyway :)
[09:32] <aftertaf> GillesR:  we'll edit your xorg.conf file.
[09:32] <epic_> brownie17, look at themes.gnome.org, www.gnome-lok.org, themes.freshmeat.net   and google it, there are laods of places
[09:32] <N6REJ> aftertaf: the other night I tried that a million times.. but didn't manually change the sources.list file first.... I bet that was the entire problem *sigh*
[09:32] <aftertaf> GillesR:  nano xorg.conf
[09:32] <N6REJ> aftertaf: we'll see what happens now.
[09:32] <Chousuke> gaeshi: but if you're not interested in that much technical stuff, at least read the stuff it says about the command line and shell scripting :)
[09:32] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hehe shit happens to all of us  man :)
[09:33] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  CD a bit borked, you're now online, should be 3 times as fine ;)
[09:33] <gaeshi> Chousuke, the command line and shell scripting, ok
[09:33] <GillesR> aftertaf: done. I see header of file
[09:33] <Chousuke> gaeshi: they're really nice tools after you get to know them.
[09:33] <vladuz976> anybody know how to install skype in breezy. with apt it complains about a missing depency which i think only changed the name in breezy
[09:34] <bob2> vladuz976: get the tarball instead
[09:34] <nightyticki> vladuz976: if its name is the problem create a symlynk..
[09:34] <gaeshi> Chousuke, are you using Japanese under ubuntu?
[09:34] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yep, linux has taught me that for sure.  I'm a little surprised that the format difference between a 700mb cdrw and a straight 700mb cdr is enough to confuse the cdrom drive.  Just shows how old the poor girl is.
[09:34] <bob2> vladuz976: and it was more than a name change
[09:34] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok. Cool..... Go down until you see a section calles Screen
[09:34] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hardwear :)
[09:34] <anthony> Since some people have come in and out, I'll try this again:  Does anyone know which file determines what programs are started on startup?  Currently I have Gaim opening when I start, and I'd like to remove that line, but I don't remember the file.
[09:35] <Chousuke> gaeshi: I was, yes. Currently I don't have a PC so I'm not running ubuntu, though.
[09:35] <vladuz976> bob2: there is gonna be no working skype in the repos?
[09:35] <nightyticki> anthony: find out in the gaim conf file..
[09:35] <brownie17> who here is familiar with Xfce? in synaptic should i download "Xfce" or Xfce4"?
[09:35] <aftertaf> skype is separate...
[09:35] <nightyticki> everything is in the conf..
[09:35] <epic_> anthony, system, preferences, sessions
[09:35] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I am unable to type Japanese - it only inputs katakana
[09:35] <Chousuke> gaeshi: in gnome you pretty much only need a japanese input module and fonts.
[09:35] <m00se> i'm trying to install hoary on amd64 machine (nforce4, sata disk). the kernell oopses and dpkg segfaults during installation of the base system.
[09:35] <Chousuke> what input module have you installed?
[09:35] <GillesR> aftertaf: i see 2 Subsection "display" with depth 1 for first 4 for second, then modes are "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[09:35] <m00se> did anyonye here have similar problems?
[09:35] <gaeshi> Chousuke, and the japanese input module is not included, is it?
[09:35] <irvin> brownie17, xfce4
[09:36] <Chousuke> it can be installed.
[09:36] <N6REJ> aftertaf: If you see a little 13 yr old boy come running up and give ya a big kiss, thats my son!  He just turned 13 yesterday and has been begging for a machine of his own to play COD on, and I was gonna have to give'm the p2 since I wasn't having any luck getting UBUNTU running on it, but now that it is, he gets an Athlon XP 1700+ :D
[09:36] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I have got no idea
[09:36] <anthony> epic_: It gets listed in the current session, but not startup programs.  Yet it still starts.
[09:36] <bob2> vladuz976: if you want skype in ubuntu, the skype people need to let ubuntu include it
[09:36] <Chousuke> gaeshi: see if you can install im-ja-canna from universe
[09:36] <sifl_> hi, i'm very new to all of this. my friend gave me this box with hoary on it and i'm trying to use it as a print server, but my printer comes with a software bundle not a driver, i have it working on this box with hoary, but i want to share it with my laptop running xp, is there a way to foward a usb port or something?
[09:36] <epic_> anthony, do you have it running when you log out?
[09:37] <loststryk> morning all; can sometone tell me why 5.10 on a install always fubars when trying to installinitrd-tools ? i downloaded the iso 3 times now; same thing on every one..... however 5.04 works fine; any suggestions ?
[09:37] <logikal_> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/385963
[09:37] <gaeshi> Chousuke, is there any way how to see if I have installed the module?
[09:37] <logikal_> anyone can take a look, trying to install window decorations
[09:37] <Chousuke> gaeshi: there are many types of modules.
[09:37] <anthony> epic_: Not sure.  What would that do?
[09:37] <Chousuke> or rather, many different modules for japanese input
[09:37] <Jedrick> how to check if my kernel supperts ipv6?
[09:37] <GillesR> aftertaf: oops there are more lines
[09:38] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I have been using Canna under Mandrake
[09:38] <Chousuke> right-click on a text box and select "input method" from the context menu and see what the Japanese option is called.
[09:38] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok.... you can remove the "1024x768" parts on each line....
[09:38] <epic_> anthony,   might be stored with 'save current setup' if you have it on
[09:38] <Jedrick> how to check if my kernel supports ipv6?
[09:38] <epic_> im only guessing thogh, sorry
[09:39] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  thanks... :) glad for both of you, man.
[09:39] <Chousuke> gaeshi: it might be for example "uim" or "SCIM"
[09:39] <N6REJ> loststryk: I was having the same problem... are you using a cdrw?
[09:39] <sifl_> is there a way to share a usb port over a network?
[09:39] <GillesR> aftertaf: done
[09:39] <fek> moin
[09:39] <anthony> epic_: Meaning if I logged out with that deselected, it shouldn't be up next time?
[09:39] <loststryk> dvd / dc writre
[09:39] <Chousuke> sifl_: I doubt it.
[09:39] <N6REJ> UHOH>>>> Computer just spouted weather alert!
[09:39] <epic_> anthony,   I would give it a go
[09:39] <gaeshi> Chousuke, nope there isnt
[09:39] <GillesR> aftertaf: I suppose Ctrl O the reboot ?
[09:39] <Chousuke> hmm
[09:40] <epic_> Jedrick,     ubuntu default kernels do   have a look at ifconfig
[09:40] <Chousuke> gaeshi: how do you turn on japanese input?
[09:40] <loststryk> ugh brb
[09:40] <epic_> ie: sudo ifconfig    (see if any interfaces have an ipv6 address
[09:40] <Chousuke> sifl_: but it might be possible to share the device plugged in with USB
[09:40] <epic_> )
[09:40] <aftertaf> GillesR:  better to reboot, yes. you were in recovery mode (i think)
[09:40] <gaeshi> Chousuke, so I go to
[09:40] <Jedrick> epic_:  i do ifconfig but i dont see any ipv6 in there
[09:40] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  where for?
[09:40] <gaeshi> Chousuke, System --> Preferences --> Keyboard
[09:40] <N6REJ> aftertaf: Murray, Ia
[09:40] <rafa> todo en English??
[09:41] <oca> i missed the answer: waht minimum hardware requirements that would satisfactorily run ubuntu?
[09:41] <epic_> Jedrick,   join #jed a sec
[09:41] <aftertaf> Murray, Ia     indiana?
[09:41] <gaeshi> Chousuke, under that there is a tab "Layouts". I add "Japanese"
[09:41] <aftertaf> GillesR:  Ca a march?
[09:41] <gaeshi> Chousuke, after that I go to Application --> Accessories --> Text editor
[09:42] <sifl_> Chousuke: that's my problem i'm trying to share a HP printer, but the printer came with a software bundle not a driver, there is no driver for it
[09:42] <N6REJ> aftertaf: no, Iowa... its 36 Degrees outside right now, and going to hit 27 at least 2nite.
[09:42] <GillesR> aftertaf: it's rebooting ...
[09:42] <N6REJ> aftertaf: That means the end of farm crops for this season!
[09:42] <gaeshi> Chousuke, when I'm switching to Japanese, only Katakana appears
[09:42] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  ok i dont know the abbrevs. ;)
[09:42] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok cool ;
[09:42] <Chousuke> gaeshi: ah, you just made your keyboard japanese. You need an input method for kanji conversion
[09:43] <dmlinux> Can you mount a USB to install drivers ?
[09:43] <N6REJ> aftertaf: Sorry, forgot... ok, that completed successfully!! YAHOOOOO.... so now try apt-get -f upgrade?
[09:43] <gaeshi> Chousuke, I see.
[09:43] <rafa> Hola algn usuario hispanoparlante?
[09:43] <sifl_> Chousuke: the printer works great with the hpijs driver, but that won't work for windows, so i either need my laptop to detect the printer and see through the hoary box, or i need to find a way to get the hpijs driver to work with windows
[09:43] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hehe what completed ok? so much has scrolled since :)
[09:43] <dmlinux> Anyone here have Microsoft Intellimouse for bluetooth??
[09:44] <aftertaf> !es
[09:44] <rafa> hola? hola?
[09:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:44] <GillesR> aftertaf: :( my screen is still expanded
[09:44] <rafa> ok
[09:44] <rafa> gracias
[09:44] <N6REJ> sifl_: hpijs?
[09:44] <Chousuke> sifl_: share it with samba
[09:44] <dmlinux> Anyone here have Microsoft Intellimouse for bluetooth??
[09:44] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yeah, now what?
[09:45] <aftertaf> GillesR:  oh dear....   Maybe VMware driver being a problem.... I dont know how to help you wth that... :/
[09:45] <anthony> Sorry about that, I had some issues for a moment...
[09:45] <gaeshi> Chousuke, what is 'universe' repository?
[09:45] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade completed?
[09:45] <gaeshi> everybody, what is 'universe' repository??
[09:45] <Chousuke> gaeshi: it's a set of not officially supported free software.
[09:45] <N6REJ> aftertaf: yep
[09:45] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop :)
[09:45] <Chousuke> !universe
[09:45] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[09:45] <Chousuke> !repositories
[09:46] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[09:46] <gaeshi> !universe
[09:46] <GillesR> aftertaf: thnks for all. I think I kill this virtual session and reinstall another. I will be more watchfull now. Thanks again
[09:46] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  check the repositories link too.... enable universe & multiverse :)
[09:46] <gaeshi> Chousuke, thanks!
[09:46] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  I did :D
[09:46] <aftertaf> GillesR:  ok... or grab one from work that isnt used much :)
[09:47] <N6REJ> aftertaf: "invalid operation ubuntu-desktop"
[09:47] <anthony> By the way though, that involved rebooting, and Gaim still opened.
[09:47] <GillesR> aftertaf: buy see U soon. ;)
[09:47] <GillesR> bye
[09:47] <N6REJ> aftertaf: apt-get -f ubuntu-desktop ??
[09:47] <anthony> That's to epic_ by the way.
[09:48] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  nope
[09:48] <N6REJ> hmmmmmm
[09:48] <Chousuke> gaeshi: you may want to try this: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[09:48] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <Chousuke> you can skip installing scim-tables-zh and -ko and -hangul though
[09:49] <N6REJ> aftertaf:  ah, ok... that makes sense.
[09:49] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hehe thx :)
[09:49] <N6REJ> aftertaf: apt-get takes the place of CPAN I see
[09:49] <aftertaf> GillesR:  pas de souci man ;)   quand tu veux.
[09:49] <sifl_> Chousuke: how do i do that?
[09:49] <aftertaf> CPAN?
[09:49] <loststryk> sorry back
[09:50] <loststryk> can sometone tell me why 5.10 on a install always fubars when trying to installinitrd-tools ? i downloaded the iso 3 times now; same thing on every one..... however 5.04 works fine; any suggestions ?
[09:50] <Chousuke> sifl_: install samba first, then configure it
[09:50] <Chousuke> google for info, I don't know
[09:50] <N6REJ> aftertaf: CPAN is the perl repository and such that will auto-update/install any perl packages/modules/tidbits you might need... very very cool
[09:50] <aftertaf> loststryk:  fubars how?     have you checked the MD5 checksum thing?
[09:50] <loststryk> yes the cd's are fine
[09:50] <N6REJ> sifl_: what is hijs?
[09:51] <Chousuke> N6REJ: it's a cups printer driver
[09:51] <loststryk> it just gets to unpacking then installing then it red screens and says it can't initrd-tools could not be installed
[09:51] <aftertaf> ok..... N6REJ .    apt is the best thing ever in the history of everything.....
[09:51] <luckyaba> what program should i get to extract .zip files?
[09:51] <N6REJ> luckyaba: only one I've ever used is gunzip
[09:51] <aftertaf> loststryk:  sounds like a big bad bug. Have you checked to see, or filed one?
[09:52] <epic_> anthony,   I have no idea...    someone else might be able to help.
[09:52] <N6REJ> loststryk: I had the same problem... are you using a cdrw?
[09:52] <aftertaf> loststryk:  why not *for now* install 5.04 then add ther 5.10 CD ns an apt source ?
[09:52] <loststryk> yes i am using a cd/dvd writer
[09:52] <sifl_> Chousuke: is there a way to get cups to work on a windows box?
[09:52] <anthony> epic_: Thanks for trying.  Anyone else??
[09:52] <loststryk> aftertaf : i have no iea where or how to
[09:52] <epic_> anthony, you will have to state your question again
[09:52] <N6REJ> loststryk: try a straight cdr... I had to change to that to get 5.04 to install.
[09:52] <aftertaf> loststryk:  we do..... thats why youre here ;)
[09:52] <N6REJ> loststryk: I haven't tried 5.10 yet that way.
[09:53] <loststryk> i dont have a straight cdrom, 5.04 works fine though
[09:53] <aftertaf> ok. loststryk can you install 04 ?
[09:53] <N6REJ> loststryk: no, I meant the media type.   Ok, then there is likely a BAD bug in 5.10 install cause I had the same exact error
[09:53] <loststryk> yeah 5.04 and below is fine
[09:54] <loststryk> if i install 5.04 can i upgrade to 5.10 easily ?
[09:54] <Jedrick> how to check free space on my disk
[09:54] <aftertaf> loststryk:  if you have a standard CD-R, try burning 5.10 to it, instead of a CDRW (like N6REJ said)
[09:54] <loststryk> jedediah type df -h in a terminal
[09:54] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  df -h
[09:54] <sifl_> Chousuke: i already have samba, how do i configure it?
[09:54] <aftertaf> :)
[09:54] <Jedrick> ok
[09:54] <jedediah> loststryk: Why?
[09:54] <loststryk> i tried cd-r and cd-rw
[09:54] <sifl_> Chousuke: nevermind, i'll look that up online
[09:54] <loststryk> jedediah wrong person sorry
[09:54] <anthony> I am wondering if anyone knows which file contains information about programs/processes to be run on startup.  Right now when I log in, Gaim starts automatically, and I would like to remove this.  I believe the file contains things such as order (i.e. 50) and command (in this case gaim).  I have seen it before, but do not remember its location or name.  Does anyone know?
[09:55] <aftertaf> loststryk:  oki..... install hoary, then once installed.... you can upgrade via net, or with the 5.10 CD.
[09:55] <loststryk> i meant Jedrick
[09:55] <N6REJ> anthony: I'm new to ubuntu but is it /etc/rc3.d ?
[09:55] <bob2> anthony: system, preferences, session
[09:55] <aftertaf> loststryk:  and we can help you if you have pbs doing that...
[09:55] <loststryk> ok will give that a bash aftertaf
[09:55] <Gimp|> hey
[09:55] <aftertaf> looooooooool. nice pun dude loststryk
[09:55] <loststryk> :p
[09:55] <anthony> N6REJ: I'll check.
[09:55] <Gimp|> how can i play mp3 files in ubuntu?
[09:56] <anthony> bob2: It doesn't show up under startup there.
[09:56] <jedediah> Gimp|: Check the wiki, they have a good set of instructions
[09:56] <aftertaf> Gimp|:  ^^^^^
[09:56] <jedediah> wiki.ubuntu.org IIRC
[09:56] <aftertaf> loststryk:  itll work ;)
[09:56] <Gimp|> kk
[09:56] <bob2> Gimp|: /msg ubotu restricted
[09:57] <anthony> N6REJ: Any suggestions on which file is likely?
[09:58] <N6REJ> anthony: uh, NO! LOL, I think I remember reading that ubuntu uses run level 3 so that should be the dir, but it could be in another.... in the fog of my brain I seem to remember a  "service" command ???
[09:58] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  its actually level 2 .... iirc
[09:59] <anthony> N6REJ: Do you have any more detail on this "service" command?  (What it was for, where it is, etc.)
[09:59] <N6REJ> hang on, let me try to shake some cobwebs off of my rusty brain... ..../runs for a cig/
[10:00] <aftertaf> anthony:  you are talking about /etc/init.d/ and the scripts symlinked there by the different runlevels?
[10:00] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[10:00] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[10:00] <aftertaf> !cigarette N6REJ
[10:00] <ubotu> Wish i knew, aftertaf
[10:00] <anthony> aftertaf: Don't know.
[10:00] <epic_> I can't see gaim being launched from there
[10:00] <aftertaf> anthony:  cos in your case its gaim opening every gnome session startup, right?
[10:00] <epic_> err gm
[10:01] <anthony> N6REJ: btw, I found the entry for another program (that I want to run on startup) in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
[10:01] <anthony> aftertaf: Yes.
[10:01] <aftertaf> anthony:  its not the runlevel initscripts things..... it is in a .gnome file in your home dir
[10:01] <N6REJ> anthony: /etc/rc.d/rc.local is for PERSONAL startups... always a good place to look... check rc.2 also
[10:02] <aftertaf> dunno which one exactly, but it'll be a hidden file /home/anthony/.[something] , maybe with rc at the end.....
[10:02] <Gimp|> woot
[10:02] <Gimp|> that worked
[10:02] <Gimp|> thx :)
[10:02] <aftertaf> w00t :)
[10:02] <Gimp|> 1 more question
[10:02] <aftertaf> there always is.... ;)
[10:02] <propagandhi> well i hope you can all pity me
[10:03] <Gimp|> how do i install cedega on ubuntu? :P
[10:03] <N6REJ> aftertaf: installing the desktop caused a seg fault! OUCH
[10:03] <N6REJ> aftertaf: redoing dpkg config *sigh*
[10:03] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  erf!
[10:03] <allan_> hey, is it a common problem not to be able to compile and install the nvidia driver on breezy, even when CC is set to gcc-3.4?
[10:03] <aftertaf> Gimp|:  you purchase it and dpkg -i the .deb you buy.....
[10:04] <anthony> aftertaf: I have in my home directory: .gaim, .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome, .gnome2, .gnome2_private.
[10:04] <aftertaf> allan_:  yep... use restricted moules instead, you have a precomiled one. You dont need to use the NVIDIA.run one....
[10:04] <Gimp|> someone said you could get it free
[10:04] <Gimp|> legally
[10:04] <Gimp|> you cant?
[10:05] <aftertaf> anthony:  ask uncle google about gnome startup files, if noone here can help (i use kde so i cant help more than that)
[10:05] <aftertaf> Gimp|:  iirc, no. but i can be wrong ;)
[10:05] <nightyticki> epic_: try inittab
[10:05] <Gimp|> k
[10:05] <Gimp|> what about wine?
[10:05] <all4n> aftertaf: could you tell me how to use the restricted modules?
[10:05] <Gimp|> how would i get that on here?
[10:05] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  that sux man...... what caused the segfault
[10:06] <N6REJ> aftertaf: let me try to find out.
[10:06] <aftertaf> all4n:  you install them via apt, then you set "nvidia" as your display driver in xorg.conf.... thats all.
[10:06] <anthony> aftertaf: I'll give it a shot.
[10:06] <all4n> aftertaf: rocks!  thanks  :)
[10:06] <aftertaf> wow....... i'm helping ppl this morning :) this is cool.
[10:06] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[10:06] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[10:06] <epic_> nightyticki,     for?
[10:06] <aftertaf> brb
[10:07] <all4n> aftertaf: hehe
[10:09] <sifl_> anyone ever heard of adobe post script manager?
[10:12] <dodgyville> If my adsl modem wasn't being automatically detected and switched on by ubuntu, is there some "pon"-style command I can use?
[10:12] <Shin_Gouki> good morning ubunut community!
[10:12] <commodore> hi
[10:12] <all4n> Shin_Gouki: morning
[10:12] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[10:13] <commodore> i'm a new ubuntu user but i'm not here for help currently
[10:13] <commodore> i just wanted to try out x-chat
[10:13] <Shin_Gouki> xchat is cool
[10:13] <commodore> seems so
[10:13] <commodore> :D
[10:13] <Shin_Gouki> :D
[10:13] <all4n> man.. I still can't get the Nvidia driver to work..  it's still complaining that my kernel module is 7174, while the driver is 7667.  Any other solutions?
[10:13] <Shin_Gouki> infact those IRcchannels here are amazing!
[10:14] <Shin_Gouki> all4n , what Nv card?
[10:14] <commodore> why is everything in ubuntu (gnome?) AA-d?
[10:14] <tristanmike> good night all
[10:14] <all4n> Shin_Gouki: Geforce4 something
[10:14] <Shin_Gouki> commodore: it si NOT , im running Icewm :)
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> all4n , explain a bit in detail ur install of the system and WHAts not running what u want to get running
[10:15] <N6REJ> aftertaf: dpkg caused the seg fault
[10:15] <commodore> i'd like to try out kubuntu too but i don't want to make more entries to the grub list
[10:15] <commodore> i'll do it someday anyways
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> commodore
[10:16] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, try icewm its even more cool , then KDE!!
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone here who knows icewm?
[10:17] <commodore> i know icewm because i just googled it :D
[10:18] <Shin_Gouki> commodore
[10:18] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, u know what even better is for THAT kind of research then google?
[10:18] <bob2> freshmeat.net
[10:19] <commodore> linux google?
[10:20] <thebigearl> hi !
[10:20] <commodore> hi
[10:20] <all4n> thebigearl: hey
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, wikipedia
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, go for it
[10:20] <thebigearl> is it possible to pre-order some ubuntu 5.10 cd's ?
[10:20] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, I've been using icewm for a few days
[10:21] <commodore> why are so many linux sites .org ?
[10:21] <all4n> Shin_Gouki: did you get my message?  I tried to send you the details through /msg, to avoid putting up a too big post on the channel
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, thats nice!
[10:21] <Chousuke> commodore: because they're not commercial
[10:21] <Chousuke> but rather organisations.
[10:21] <commodore> com is for commercial?
[10:21] <Chousuke> yes.
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, wikipedia plz type in icewm in wikipedia!
[10:21] <commodore> and org is for organisation?
[10:21] <thebigearl> jepp
[10:21] <Chousuke> .commercial, .network, .organisation
[10:21] <Shin_Gouki> right
[10:21] <commodore> i'm doing it right now
[10:21] <gaeshi> .government .military
[10:22] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, do u know how to switch the background image?
[10:22] <Chousuke> and others.
[10:22] <bob2> .internationale
[10:23] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, well, it was easy, but i don't have icewm on my box right now
[10:23] <commodore> where can i find icewm screenshots?
[10:23] <gaeshi> icewm_theme
[10:23] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, there was a tool to switch icewm_theme
[10:23] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, or how do i create my own shortscuts on taskbar? do u have good tutorial site?
[10:23] <thebigearl> can i pre-order breezy badger cds anywhere ?
[10:24] <commodore> theme screenshots are bad :(
[10:24] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, I was using VineLinux
[10:24] <N6REJ> aftertaf: apititude is working now :D  it is doing what dpkg won't.  I think dpkg maybe got a bad lib file in the process.. we'll see if aptitude finishs neatly.
[10:24] <barongas> What's the easiest way to format a secondary harddrive I have plugged to my sweet ubuntu box?
[10:25] <gaeshi> http://www.icewm.org/themes/
[10:25] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, http://www.icewm.org/themes/
[10:25] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, is VineLinux a ICE WM coinfig tool?
[10:26] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, VineLinux is a distro
[10:27] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, it is a Red-Hat based Linux made by some Japanese developers
[10:27] <commodore> is "high definition audi controller" basicly the sound card?
[10:27] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, hm i see, i am just looking for an icewm config tool , preferbly GUI
[10:28] <commodore> the device manager in ubuntu is crazy, all those numbers and stuff, i can't understand it, windows device manager was easy
[10:28] <Pickle_Weasel> what country is ubuntu based in?
[10:28] <commodore> is "high definition audi controller" basicly the sound card?
[10:29] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, did u tried the wikipedia?
[10:29] <commodore> yes
[10:29] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[10:29] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, try #icewm channel
[10:29] <commodore> i tried it for icewm not other stuff
[10:30] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, thx!!1
[10:30] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, commodore u will find beter infos then on gooogle! bnecause its more precise!
[10:31] <commodore> i don't have sound on ubuntu and my comp is intel (i386 or how do people say to it)
[10:31] <commodore> everything works on windows
[10:31] <commodore> and I'm quite sure that live cd worked too
[10:31] <Nadien> hi
[10:31] <Nadien> i am prostitute
[10:32] <Jedrick> How to enable javascript on my browser
[10:32] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, there is a tool icecc
[10:32] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, icecc means IceWM Control Center
[10:32] <Nadien> have sex
[10:32] <Pickle_Weasel> !tell Jedrick about java
[10:32] <commodore> XD nadien
[10:33] <Nadien> hi
[10:33] <Nadien> yeah
[10:33] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, and there are lots of themes for icewm on sourceforge/freshmeat
[10:33] <Nadien> i am prostitute
[10:34] <gaeshi> Nadien, cool!
[10:34] <ver> hi there! i found a bug in breezy rc1. i tried to commit a bug report to bugzilla but it doesnt support image uploads since i only took a picture of the bug. what to do?
[10:34] <bob2> it supports attachments
[10:35] <brownie17> can somone tell me how to set up keyboard shortcuts on xfce?
[10:35] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, do u have website about icecc?
[10:36] <brownie17> irvin, do you know anything about keyboard shortcuts on xfce?
[10:36] <Nadien> want sex free?
[10:36] <sherman> for all those who care, i am updating to breezy's packages using the wiki in the topic....
[10:36] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki http://icecc.sourceforge.net/
[10:36] <Shin_Gouki> gaeshi, tank u so much!
[10:37] <gaeshi> Shin_Gouki, welcome!
[10:37] <Nadien> want sex free?
[10:37] <ompaul> sherman, enjoy
[10:37] <aftertaf> Nadien:  leave please
[10:37] <gaeshi> Nadien, sure!
[10:37] <aftertaf> thx bob2  :)
[10:37] <sherman> hopefully ompaul
[10:37] <ompaul> bob2, :)
[10:37] <aftertaf> if i may, twat!!!!!
[10:37] <gaeshi> :))))
[10:37] <brownie17> bob2, :)
[10:38] <commodore> are there any apps for linux that show the stuff my box has? i'm sure there's plenty
[10:38] <bob2> commodore: where stuff = ?
[10:38] <ompaul> commodore, there are [I could leave it there]  synapatic is one way
[10:38] <ompaul> commodore, can you be more specific about what stuff is
[10:39] <commodore> hard drive, graphics card, sound card, processor
[10:39] <commodore> i know device manager but i don't like it
[10:40] <brownie17> where can i find a menu in xfce similiar to the "computer" window in gnome
[10:40] <melvztechie> hello guys, I just tried installing Java fo FF using synp and manual install, enabled already FF 4 java support, but still no luck to get it workin?
[10:40] <melvztechie> whats the proper way to setup java for firefox?
[10:40] <aftertaf> !java
[10:40] <ubotu> I guess java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[10:41] <brownie17> is there another support channel specific to xfce problems?
[10:43] <melvztechie> ubotu: okey ill check on that, tanks!!!
[10:43] <ubotu> melvztechie: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:43] <commodore> help me please
[10:43] <commodore> i don't have a clue how to call an app like that but i have seen them before on windows
[10:44] <bob2> I don't know of any on linux
[10:44] <bob2> what do you want it for?
[10:44] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install qt on my ubuntu?
[10:44] <commodore> i wanna know what stuff i have on my comp
[10:45] <commodore> i could do it throw windows but i don't want to
[10:45] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: that's not your real question, tell us what you're trying to do
[10:45] <bob2> commodore: that's a shame
[10:45] <cypa> Hi
[10:45] <commodore> is it benchmark?
[10:46] <commodore> is it called *
[10:46] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 i tried to install icecc a control center for icewm but then it said: icecc: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:46] <cypa>   ?
[10:46] <cypa> is there anybody speaking russian
[10:46] <Shin_Gouki> commodore, whats ur prob waht ur looking for?
[10:46] <cypa> ?
[10:46] <Shin_Gouki> english i guess
[10:46] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: packages.ubuntu.com will tell you what file that is in
[10:46] <commodore> i'm learning russian in school but very bad
[10:46] <derFlo> commodore? do you want something like the "Device Manager"?
[10:47] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: hint: libqt3c102-mt
[10:47] <commodore> ja ne gavarju po russki
[10:47] <commodore> yes derFlo
[10:47] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, ur speaking not "easy" engough to me
[10:47] <commodore> exactly
[10:47] <derFlo> and you have ubuntu?
[10:47] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, is this " libqt3c102-mt" a pkg i need to install via apt-get?
[10:47] <LethAL> Shin_Gouki, try libqt3
[10:47] <cypa> commodore, Russian is cool
[10:48] <commodore> i have ubuntu
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> LethAL , whats the apt-get isntall command?
[10:48] <LethAL> Shin_Gouki, Or it might be lib-qt3-dev or similar
[10:48] <derFlo> it is in system->sysconfig->devices (i have a german system, so i have to guess the names)?
[10:48] <LethAL> apt-cache search qt3
[10:48] <cypa> but I am interesting about russian locale for Thunderbird Ubuntu package
[10:48] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: indeed
[10:48] <bob2> LethAL: that won't work
[10:48] <Shin_Gouki> why?
[10:48] <commodore> i want something like the device manager not it
[10:49] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: because it doesn't contain that file
[10:49] <olicat> hi all. in openoffice (breezy) i'm trying to get a presentation printed, with two slides and their notes on one page. can't get it working though, any ideas where i set that up?
[10:49] <derFlo> commodore. what is the difference between it and the device manager?
[10:49] <propagandhi> commodore: go back to windows
[10:49] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 ok i try now ur search suggest
[10:50] <derFlo> it is even called "device manager"!!!
[10:50] <brownie17> who knows anything about xfce?
[10:50] <LethAL> olicat, you have to install the printer in System > Administration > Printers
[10:50] <rob^> #xfce
[10:50] <commodore> :D again i'm speaking so bad noone can understand me correctly
[10:50] <olicat> LethAL, i've got the printer working, but ooo only prints one slide per page
[10:50] <commodore> ok i'm leaving the channel now, i'll be back sometime this year :P
[10:51] <LethAL> Hmm...
[10:51] <LethAL> Well I've never used OOo on Ubuntu...
[10:51] <derFlo> hmmm
[10:51] <osfameron> OOo is slightly less horrid on ubuntu than it is on windows
[10:52] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, im too clumsy for that search engine :/ is this my keyword:   libqt-mt.so.3 ..?
[10:52] <Jedrick> how to make scripts executable
[10:52] <lightstar> chmod 700 <sctipsname>
[10:52] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes
[10:52] <rob^> I dunno, OOo does the basics pretty well
[10:53] <LethAL> Woah... blank DVD+R through the post... groovay
[10:53] <rob^> some interface qurks sure..
[10:53] <LethAL> Shae I don't have a DVD burner...
[10:53] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, but the search string must be incomplete it didn't find anything what else do i have to specify??
[10:54] <sifl_> anyone know of a way to get cups or foomatic to work on a windows machine?
[10:54] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: scroll down. you want the package contents search page
[10:55] <sifl_> this is rediculous, this printer is easy to configure over a network with linux, but next to impossible with windows xp :'(
[10:55] <rob^> lucky you sifl_
[10:55] <YeTr2> sifl_, windows printing to cups? easy.
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, there was 2 results, showing the file and 2 diffrent paths...what now?
[10:57] <derFlo> sifl_: IPP ?
[10:57] <sifl_> it's my printer, the hpijs driver can be used to have it print over a network, but the software bundle it came with, that installs the printer w/o a driver can't print over a network
[10:57] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: ?
[10:57] <YeTr2> any documentation on setting up nvidia stuff for 5.10 ?
[10:57] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: it told you the package name to install
[10:57] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:58] <derFlo> sifl_: although you are on a ubuntu channel, i'd help you on a private chan
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 im very clumsy i found also the package name..but what is the command for installing it?
[10:58] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: you've really never installed a package on ubuntu before?
[10:59] <cypa> about ATI driver in ubuntu hoary
[10:59] <YeTr2> sifl_, which way of printing are you talking about? windows>linux or linux>windows ?
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , only with apt-get?
[10:59] <cypa> it doesn't work
[10:59] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: then use apt-get
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , im using ubuntu for 3  days no 5 days
[10:59] <cypa> on ASUS Pundit-R barabone
[10:59] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  apt is good for the soul
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> i've been useing it sence april and i am glad i chose it
[11:00] <stjepan> hello
[11:00] <stjepan> may I use debian repositories?
[11:00] <aftertaf> bettong_BOFH:  good for you dude ;)
[11:00] <bob2> stjepan: no
[11:00] <LethAL> I've been using it for about 3-4 weeks :-)
[11:00] <LethAL> :P
[11:00] <bettong_BOFH> definatly an awsome os ^_^
[11:00] <aftertaf> Stje ad idea
[11:00] <Hobbsee> stjepan: what for?
[11:00] <sifl_> windows>linux
[11:00] <Hobbsee> stjepan: as in, some stuff works, some doesnt, i think is the answer
[11:00] <derFlo> sifl_: Cups is using IPP.
[11:00] <LethAL> Nice sarcasm sifl_
[11:00] <dazed> lo
[11:01] <derFlo> so you have to add an so-called TCP/IP-Port
[11:01] <derFlo> good luck
[11:01] <sifl_> i just don't get it, everything is set up on the linux side, and my windows machine can see the printer, i just can't find a network driver for it
[11:02] <YeTr2> sifl_, don't bother with installing the bundled junk from the printer. use the Generic/M$ Image Letter driver that has been included with every version of windows wince 98se and print via cups, not samba
[11:02] <YeTr2> sifl_, and just as a note, acrobat reader 6.0+ doesn't work printing over to a cups server for me
[11:03] <CaiN_SA> is skype in multiverse ?
[11:03] <Jedrick> how to make a script executable?
[11:03] <Jedrick> can someone help me
[11:03] <dooglus> I think I've found a firefox bug.  Could someone try this link and tell me if it crashes firefox please?  http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !chmod
[11:03] <LethAL> !tell Jedrick about chmod
[11:03] <ubotu> hmm... chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[11:03] <sifl_> :'( it's sad when you start understanding linux more than windows
[11:03] <LethAL> Gah
[11:03] <brownie17> Jedrick, right click it and select properties
[11:03] <brownie17> Jedrick, then the permissions tab, then check all "execute" boxes
[11:03] <bob2> linux tends to make more sense
[11:03] <Jedrick> ok
[11:04] <LethAL> And not crash randomly
[11:04] <YeTr2> sifl_, http://localhost:631/ on the print server
[11:04] <brownie17> i don't think i'll ever understand linux properly
[11:04] <Hobbsee> dooglus: works here, but i'm not sure if adblock is affecting it
[11:04] <bettong_BOFH> the only time my box crashes is when the power go's out
[11:04] <dooglus> Hobbsee: did you click the link?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> yeah
[11:04] <Hobbsee> it opened in a new tab, clicked on that one
[11:04] <dooglus> Hobbsee: and then?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> brought back the same page
[11:05] <Hobbsee> kept clicking, kept bringing back the same page
[11:05] <dooglus> Hobbsee: thanks.  what version of the fox?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> no crashing at all
[11:05] <derFlo> sifl-: 1) Create a new "Internetport". 2) Use the built-in windows-drivers for you HPXXX 3) finish
[11:05] <Hobbsee> 1.0.7 in breezy i think
[11:06] <Hobbsee> yeah
[11:06] <dooglus> weird.  1.0.7 in breezy is what crashes for me.
[11:06] <YeTr2> sifl_, basically, you need the name of the printer you used on the linux box, so you can use the 'connect to a printer on the internet' option in windows, which accepts an entry like 'http://(printerserverip):631/printers/(printername)'
[11:06] <poyie> how to configure windows display to 1024x800
[11:06] <poyie> how to configure windows display to 1024x800?
[11:07] <sifl_> that part isn't my problem
[11:07] <sifl_> i can find the printer i can get all the way to where it asks for a driver
[11:07] <nikls> #join ubuntu-fr
[11:08] <gaeshi> please advise some good c/c++ source editor
[11:08] <gaeshi> !c
[11:08] <ubotu> gaeshi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:08] <gaeshi> !script editor
[11:08] <ubotu> I don't know, gaeshi
[11:08] <YeTr2> sifl_, use the `generic/ MS ImageLetter driver`
[11:08] <dooglus> Hobbsee: could you try in a new profile?  (run 'firefox -p' to get the profile manager)
[11:08] <sifl_> where is that?
[11:08] <brownie17> xfce is stupid
[11:09] <Jeromee> does anyone know where I could find a list of RAID cards that are supported by ubuntu?
[11:09] <YeTr2> it should be under the Generic driver list
[11:09] <irvin> brownie17, why do you think that?
[11:09] <olicat> is openoffice just complete rubbish? i cant find a way of printing more than 1 slide per page + notes, AND it can't print without the filepath at the bottom.
[11:09] <brownie17> irvin, you cannot stretch the panel
[11:09] <irvin> sure you can
[11:10] <brownie17> irvin, how?
[11:10] <sifl_> my bad, don't know how i missed it
[11:10] <YeTr2> under manufacture, select generic
[11:10] <YeTr2> M$ Publisher ImageLetter
[11:10] <edward_> anybody here who can help with installing a jre on ubuntu ?
[11:11] <Hobbsee> dooglus: not currently, dinner here
[11:11] <sifl_> YeTr2: i hate windows...
[11:11] <sifl_> YeTr2: i found it
[11:11] <Hobbsee> !tell edward_ about java
[11:11] <YeTr2> cups accepts the output from that printer driver without any problem
[11:11] <YeTr2> don't know abou tsamba thou
[11:11] <dooglus> Hobbsee: ok.  I'll report it anyway, since it crashes for me in a clean profile.
[11:11] <brownie17> irvin, how?
[11:11] <Hobbsee> i can check in a while, after dinner, but not now
[11:11] <dooglus> where should I report it?  ubuntu or mozilla?
[11:11] <dazed> just did a net install of powerpc hoary, on it now but Firefox is having trouble connecting to sites, any ideas?
[11:12] <edward_> i have tried to follo the HOWTO in the forum but i can't find the "make-jpkg "
[11:12] <edward_> has anybody used it before ?
[11:12] <darksatanic> edward_: It's in the "java-package" package.
[11:12] <epic_> olicat, did you try selecting the range of pages to print?
[11:13] <olicat> epic_, just selecting 1 page at the moment
[11:13] <Jeromee> anyone?
[11:14] <brownie17> Jeromee, google
[11:14] <brownie17> does anyone know how to stretch the panel in XFCE
[11:15] <LethAL> I don't know, but I'd like to
[11:16] <epic_> olicat,    tried printing from the outline view?
[11:16] <epic_> ack  phone
[11:16] <epic_> bb
[11:16] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 how can i FASt switch my shell language to english? is it possible? i want to paste somewere an aeror message but my native language is german , so?
[11:17] <olicat> epic_, needs to be handouts
[11:17] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, paste it and we can see if we can figure out what the message is
[11:17] <Shin_Gouki> sec ompaul
[11:17] <freeflying> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2005-July/066834.html
[11:18] <freeflying> anyone have met this
[11:18] <mvirkkil> Shin_Gouki: LANG=en_US.UFT-8
[11:18] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul, bob2 here we go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2845
[11:19] <sifl_> the printer keeps teasing me and making sounds like it's gonna print, but then it stops
[11:19] <YeTr2> hmm
[11:19] <sifl_> the linux box says it's printing 1 page and the windows machine says it sent 1 page
[11:20] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin pleas
[11:20] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: you got that .deb from Debian?
[11:22] <Adri2000> hi
[11:22] <ompaul> 'lo
[11:22] <Shin_Gouki> ompual bob2 here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2846
[11:22] <Adri2000> i just want to know, how is defined the order of lauching scripts in /etc/rcS.d
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , yes debian is it problem?
[11:23] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes
[11:23] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: don't do that
[11:23] <sifl_> YeTr2: i'm printing directly to cups
[11:23] <Adri2000> because i have a script for wpa (wifi), and the networking script, i want wpa to be loaded before
[11:23] <bob2> Adri2000: why don't you just setup WPA out of /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, but i want to use that software...so now?
[11:24] <Adri2000> bob2: how should i do ?
[11:24] <melvztechie> This is so cool, Ubuntu so easy to install printer with HP Jetdirect, no flaw at all!!!
[11:24] <Adri2000> wpa mustn be laoded by sudo /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start
[11:25] <YeTr2> brb
[11:25] <epic_> olicat,   have you asked in #openoffice.org   ?
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, if i cant compile, is there any way..?
[11:25] <Jeromee> Is anyone running a raid card under ubuntu?
[11:26] <olicat> epic_, yeah, was completely ignored by everyone
[11:26] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: no
[11:26] <bob2> Jeromee: lots of people use real raid cards, yes
[11:27] <Skid> 3ware!
[11:27] <Skid> :_)
[11:27] <Jeromee> I'm just trying to find a Decent Raid card for ubuntu, one thats easily supported
[11:27] <Jeromee> any ideas?
[11:27] <Skid> use a 3ware
[11:27] <Skid> itshardware
[11:27] <Skid> so it's fine :)
[11:27] <bob2> Jeromee: 3ware make the only hardware IDE raid cards I've heard of
[11:28] <Skid> any 3ware practically is the market leader imo..
[11:28] <bob2> lots of companies make SCSI ones, and they should all work out of the box
[11:28] <Jeromee> so, any 3ware raid card, should work fine?
[11:28] <leaforest>      ~~
[11:28] <epic_> olicat,   how many slides do you want on each handout?
[11:29] <Yetr2> bah.... nvidia still isn't loading
[11:29] <bob2> leaforest: english, please
[11:29] <Skid> if it's a hardware card, its got it own interface anyway
[11:29] <Chousuke> leaforest: very few people here are able to see UTF-8, let alone read korean :P
[11:29] <sifl_> YeTr2: i don't know my cups user name and passwore
[11:29] <Skid> software raid isn't worth the cheap price to pay for it
[11:29] <Chousuke> The latter group includes me, so please use English :)
[11:29] <Adri2000> bob2: what should i put in /etc/network/interfaces to load wpasupplicant ?
[11:29] <Yetr2> sifl_, its your root account and it's password
[11:29] <olicat> epic_, 1 slide with notes. i get it printed, but it prints the file path and name, which obscures the notes
[11:30] <sifl_> Yetr2: it's not working
[11:30] <brownie17> Chousuke, i can see utf-8
[11:30] <brownie17> Chousuke, but korean is way over my head
[11:30] <Chousuke> hehe.
[11:30] <Chousuke> Me too :p
[11:31] <Yetr2> or atleast it should be...
[11:31] <Yetr2> gimmie a minute
[11:32] <shandar> oo
[11:32] <shandar> a swedish guy!
[11:32] <Chousuke> :P
[11:32] <Chousuke> I can speak some swedish ;P
[11:32] <shandar> haha
[11:32] <sifl_> i know very little danish
[11:32] <shandar> Well Chousuke, Hej! hur mr du?
[11:33] <ompaul> if it is gut I will be surprised
[11:33] <leaforest> everyone are using 5.10 rc?
[11:33] <erick> Guys email question just want to try ubuntu for my email server,what is the best MTA will i use
[11:33] <leaforest> 5.10rc?
[11:33] <leaforest> ??
[11:33] <leaforest> how can i check my hdd drive for bad sector??
[11:33] <ompaul> leaforest, no some people use fedora but a lot of people use it :)
[11:33] <loststryk> no am using 5.04
[11:34] <leaforest> ?
[11:34] <shandar> 5.04 here
[11:34] <Seveas> erick, I like courier but postfix is nice too
[11:34] <dooglus> leaforest: I'm using the current version.  There have been updates since the 1st rc
[11:34] <Yetr2> postfix or sendmail
[11:34] <sifl_> it's "Jeg elsker dig."
[11:34] <Chousuke> shandar: bra, tack. :P And that's about it
[11:34] <shandar> Chousuke, That's a start :P
[11:34] <sifl_> or at least that's the only one i can spell...
[11:35] <shandar> Chousuke, Where are you from?
[11:35] <Chousuke> Finland.
[11:35] <Yetr2> sifl_, this cups server using ubuntu?
[11:35] <shandar> Ah.
[11:35] <erick> seveas, I also use postfix but in my redhat, is postfix posible for ubuntu?if yes what packages will I use
[11:35] <sifl_> Yetr2: yes, hoary
[11:35] <Seveas> postfix is installed by default in Ubuntu
[11:35] <ompaul> leaforest, what error message are you getting that makes you think you might have that problem?
[11:36] <Chousuke> I never got to use swedish in real life.
[11:36] <Chousuke> only at school
[11:36] <erick> ah k, how will i know the version of postfix installed
[11:36] <Chousuke> which explains why I suck at using it.
[11:36] <claes> erick, dpkg -l postfix
[11:36] <Seveas> dpkg -l 'postfix*'
[11:37] <crimsun> (note that brand new installations of Breezy will lack postfix, or any MTA for that matter)
[11:37] <sifl_> yeah, my girlfriend wants me to go to denmark with her and meet her relatives and the only danish phrases i know are "i love you" and "ladybug" and i can't spell ladybug in danish
[11:37] <Yetr2> sifl_, I don't know how, but I guess ubuntu has changed cups more than I believed it could...
[11:37] <gaeshi> people
[11:37] <erick> claes, not installed
[11:38] <gaeshi> is there any MSDOS emulator?
[11:38] <shandar> btw, I've asked this before but no one has been able to answer me. Is there any way to force a resolution and refresh rate and simply ignore that the screen and vidcard will scream no? I know that the res works, but my screen doesn't officially support it...
[11:38] <Archer> gaeshi, install dosbox
[11:38] <claes> erick, sudo aptitude install postfix
[11:38] <Yetr2> sifl_, try using the gui tool and see what it says about jobs there
[11:38] <gaeshi> !dosbox
[11:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gaeshi
[11:38] <Yetr2> gaeshi, dosbox
[11:38] <Seveas> !info dosbox
[11:38] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[11:38] <erick> k claes thanks
[11:39] <gaeshi> Archer, Yetr2, thanks!
[11:39] <gaeshi> how to install it?
[11:39] <Seveas> shandar, put it in xorg.conf and remove all other resolutions from that file
[11:39] <erick> claes one more thing, what are the site that can i blocked for my postfix to tell it is spammer
[11:39] <Seveas> gaeshi, same as any other piece of software: apt-get or synaptic
[11:39] <Yetr2> hmm... I still don't have the nvidia module...
[11:39] <shandar> Seveas, I've done that, but then I only get it at 60 Hz, I need it at 72 Hz.
[11:39] <sifl_> Yetr2: it says printing 1 jobs and when i go to properties it says status: printing: usb port busy; will retry in 30 seconds...
[11:39] <Seveas> erick, the documentation of postfix contains lists of RBL sites
[11:40] <erick> ah, is that updated?
[11:40] <claes> erick, To use a blacklist you mean?
[11:40] <Seveas> shandar, then you need to fidle with your VertRefresh
[11:40] <erick> yeah claes,
[11:40] <shandar> Seveas, and yes, I have edited the h-sync and v-refresh
[11:40] <erick> what to stop the spammer
[11:40] <gaeshi> Seveas, thanks!
[11:40] <Seveas> shandar, well, then you have now reached the end of my X knowledge, sorry
[11:41] <claes> erick,  rblcheck   <-- checks if the mail server are blacklisted
[11:41] <shandar> Seveas, Okey. Thanks anyway! I'll try to fiddle around a bit more with it, but so far nothing has helped =/
[11:41] <Seveas> good luck
[11:41] <erick> claes can you give me those site, so that I will include it in my blacklist
[11:42] <erick> no claes, just want to have the list of those that your are familiar that includes on your blaclist
[11:44] <shandar> No luck... still running at 60 Hz...
[11:44] <Yetr2> sifl_, I'm not sure... I could only take a guess that if you have other USB devices, they could be hogging the bandwidth, preventing printing
[11:44] <Yetr2> I have USB printers on my cups server too, but they are the only USB devices on the system
[11:45] <sifl_> Yetr2: i don't though, ps/2 keyboard and serial mouse(which itself was a challenge for me)
[11:45] <erick> seveas and claes thanks, just check the site
[11:46] <kill9> anyone here from south africa?
[11:46] <claes> erick, I'll check my setup for the blacklist server I use.
[11:46] <Yetr2> try turning off the printer, unpluggging the USB cable, cancel the job, the turn the printer back on & reconect the cable, then try printing again
[11:47] <Yetr2> first through the linux server, then throught the windows client
[11:47] <kill9> where can i get a list of apt servers?
[11:48] <Seveas> !tell kill9 about sources
[11:48] <claes> erick, http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/howtouse.html
[11:48] <pipoun> why do I have the headers for 2.6.10-5 and 2.6.10-5-386 at the same time installed???
[11:49] <kjb> hi
[11:49] <kjb> how can i get under ubuntu the right kernels to the right gcc?
[11:50] <kjb> i have done an apt-get install build-essentiallinuxheaders'uname -r'
[11:50] <kill9> thnx
[11:50] <dooglus> kjb: what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <kjb> dooglus, i try to get vm-ware runing
[11:50] <shandar> is there any other way to change resolution other than the gnome applet?
[11:51] <kjb> but it always tell me, that my kernel is created with gcc 3.4.5
[11:51] <kjb> and my current gcc version is 4.0.2
[11:51] <pipoun> perhaps it's true
[11:51] <kjb> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[11:51] <kjb> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2"
[11:51] <dooglus> kjb: hoary?
[11:51] <pipoun> kjb, find your 3.4.5 version and use it for vmware
[11:52] <kjb> pipoun, so i can install the gcc3.4.5 without problem?
[11:52] <kjb> apt-get install gcc3.4.5 ?
[11:52] <pipoun> has it been uniinstall
[11:52] <sifl_> Yetr2: ok, it's printing the linux test page..
[11:52] <pipoun> well no, I can overtake your previous instalation of 4.0.2
[11:53] <dooglus> kjb: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[11:54] <sifl_> Yetr2: but did not print the windows test page
[11:54] <sifl_> Yetr2: it doesn't think that it finished the linux test page...
[11:55] <Yetr2> sifl_, is the windows job showing in the que?
[11:55] <N6REJ> *sigH* still can't upgrade distro.. .keep getting failure message
[11:55] <larsrohdin>  hi, I've just installed GTA SA and I am able to play it, but I cannot change the advanced display settings, the game crashes... Can someone help me?
[11:55] <larsrohdin> with cedega
[11:55] <kjb> i looked i have no old gcc
[11:55] <propagandhi> N6REJ: whats is the message
[11:55] <kjb> dooglus, but isnt it better to get the right (newer) kernel to the gcc4?
[11:56] <sifl_> Yetr2: yes, it says pending: none but it's after the linux page that says printing: job-printing
[11:56] <[LethAL] > larsrohdin, I don't know about that, but I think it's just s changing video settings problem
[11:56] <N6REJ> propagandhi: thank god for the shell mail command or I couldn't tell ya......
[11:56] <N6REJ> propagandhi: dpkg; ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed.
[11:56] <Yetr2> hmm...
[11:56] <larsrohdin> [LethAL] , changing in X?
[11:56] <sifl_> Yetr2: but it finished the linux page... i already threw it out
[11:56] <propagandhi> N6REJ: u dont use dpkg to upgrade though
[11:56] <[LethAL] > No in the game
[11:56] <[LethAL] > Although I haven't played SA with it
[11:57] <N6REJ> propagandhi: cc, I did apt-get install dist-upgrade and it ran for a while and then threw that error out.
[11:57] <larsrohdin> [LethAL] , yeah but I cant even enter the advanced display settings, then the game crashes
[11:57] <N6REJ> propagandhi: and now dpkg --configure -a won't run either
[11:57] <Yetr2> I would changing the log level in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to maximum, restarting cups, and see what kind of message I getting.
[11:57] <sifl_> Yetr2: whoa, my processor has not gone below 100% for a while now...
[11:57] <[LethAL] > larsrohdin, oh... maybe you should try running it with WINE? Can be better at various programs...
[11:58] <propagandhi> N6EJ: okay, you updated /etc/apt/sources.lst - then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[11:58] <Yetr2> sifl_, `top`
[11:58] <N6REJ> yep
[11:58] <melvztechie> guys, is there a mrtg package in ubuntu?
[11:58] <N6REJ> let me see if I can do it again.
[11:58] <blenda> I've forgotten my password to Gnome's keyring. Is there a way to reset it? I don't care if my saved passwords are lost.
[11:58] <Yetr2> what program is hoarding the CPU time?
[11:58] <[LethAL] > How do I setup ThunderBird to read my local mail?
[11:58] <topyli> N6REJ: does apt-get -f install work?
[11:58] <N6REJ> propagandhi: ok, apt-get update worked.
[11:58] <twibbler> Does anybody know of a good text editor for programming ..... mainly perl html etc .... I have tried most of the ones under synaptic ....
[11:59] <N6REJ> standby
[11:59] <N6REJ> no same error
[11:59] <claes> melvztechie, yes    try: apt-cache search mrtg
[11:59] <Yetr2> twibbler, I like vi
[11:59] <topyli> twibbler: emacs maybe
[11:59] <propagandhi> nano!!
[11:59] <N6REJ> pico!
[11:59] <N6REJ> lol
[12:00] <topyli> !start an editor war
[12:00] <ubotu> notepad is better than emacs
[12:00] <ompaul> !start editor war
[12:00] <ubotu> ompaul: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:00] <larsrohdin> ubotu, wtf?
[12:00] <ubotu> larsrohdin: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:00] <ompaul> !start an editor war
[12:00] <sifl_> Yetr2: the weird thing is that my processes only add up to 6% cpu usage
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> me voted for vi
[12:00] <Shin_Gouki> it rocks
[12:00] <larsrohdin> emaccs is the shit=)
[12:00] <twibbler> Yetr2: topyli: used both after a more graphical one ?.
[12:00] <melvztechie> claes: there is, what am i gonna install first? or how will i install mrtg now?
[12:00] <nitroflea> Anybody know why totem complains about the audio output being used by another application? I've got an Audigy LS
[12:00] <Syruss> emacs rocks.
[12:00] <Yetr2> with the proper setup, vi does syntax highlighting
[12:00] <Syruss> I also use vim though which is also good
[12:00] <ompaul> the bot is gone sick
[12:00] <Syruss> each has their place
[12:00] <Syruss> :p
[12:00] <propagandhi> nano nano nano
[12:00] <Syruss> ROL!
[12:00] <N6REJ> propagandhi:  now what?
[12:01] <topyli> N6REJ: try uninstalling the offending package (unless it's something like glibc :)
[12:01] <Syruss> nano is properly lame
[12:01] <Syruss> :)
[12:01] <N6REJ> topyli: how? which one?
[12:01] <Jedrick> whats the command in irc to echo on what os ur using like $os
[12:01] <claes> melvztechie, sudo aptitude install mrtg       but I haven't used it myself
[12:01] <damo21> lol there is Ubuntu 5.10ReleaseCandidate? why not wait another few days haha
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Nano is cool...
[12:01] <N6REJ> topyli: should I start aptitude?
[12:01] <topyli> N6REJ: which one is giving the error?
[12:01] <topyli> N6REJ: aptitude might be smarter than apt, yes
[12:01] <propagandhi> N6REJ: in synaptic are there any broken packages at all
[12:01] <N6REJ> topyli: thats just it I don't know...
[12:01] <Syruss> anyway, anyone here use network-manager? I'm having problems with it's use of bind to do dns caching in that resolving works for a while, then just stops working for certain websites.
[12:01] <melvztechie> claes: okey will try, just want to monitor my ethx bandwidth utilization, tanks
[12:01] <N6REJ> I don't know how to tell guys, I'm brand new and its a new hoary install
[12:02] <sifl_> Yetr2: wait, nm, cupsd is taking all my processing
[12:02] <damo21> propagandhi: it depends on which repositories you enable
[12:02] <N6REJ> breezy has a broken initrd file
[12:02] <claes> melvztechie, glad I could help
[12:02] <nitroflea> Has anyone got their Audigy LS stable in breezy yet? Totem and XMMS complain
[12:02] <propagandhi> damo12: ???
[12:02] <Jedrick> whats the command in irc to echo on what os ur using like:  /echo $os
[12:02] <Yetr2> sifl_, `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restart`
[12:02] <topyli> N6REJ: yeah, the error message doesn't seem very helpful :(
[12:02] <propagandhi> damo21: ???
[12:02] <Jedrick> anyone?
[12:02] <N6REJ> propagandhi: whats synaptic?
[12:02] <[LethAL] > Jedrick, uname -a
[12:03] <Syruss> Jedrick, /exec -o uname -a
[12:03] <propagandhi> N6REJ: package manager
[12:03] <[LethAL] > Jedrick, linuxinfo
[12:03] <damo21> propagandhi: if you select strictly the ubuntu official repositories, then there shouldnt be any broken packages
[12:03] <melvztechie> claes: it installed freely with no error;) thats cool!
[12:03] <Proko> ave
[12:03] <N6REJ> I have all the deb's uncommented in sources.list except cdrom
[12:03] <melvztechie> claes: ill try to configure it now;)
[12:04] <N6REJ> I just started aptitude, now what?
[12:04] <propagandhi> damo21: ok i see what your saying but its not just repos that create broken packages, you never know what packages people have tried to install
[12:04] <topyli> N6REJ: just press g and see if it can sort things out
[12:04] <sifl_> Yetr2: the command to restart cupsd is actually sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[12:04] <Yetr2> ...
[12:04] <sifl_> Yetr2: spent forever on that earlier
[12:04] <sifl_> Yetr2: but it worked
[12:04] <N6REJ> hit g and screen is now green with lots of files showing.
[12:05] <Yetr2> sifl_, what about the windows que?
[12:05] <Proko> Hi, I use a hoary ubuntu version, and I try to add some debian repository in my sources.list file, but I always get an error message talking about a public key signature. Where may I find the right debian repositories ?
[12:05] <N6REJ> ok, had to hit it again.. going now
[12:05] <topyli> N6REJ: good. press g again and it will tell you if something is broken
[12:05] <melvztechie> ERROR: Mrtg will most likely not work properly when the environment
[12:05] <melvztechie>        variable LANG is set to UTF-8. Please run mrtg in an environment
[12:05] <melvztechie>        where this is not the case. Try the following command to start:
[12:05] <[LethAL] > Proko, don't use debian reops
[12:05] <[LethAL] > repos*
[12:05] <damo21> propagandhi: im saying that if you only use the official repo and only use synaptic for installing new packages then there should be no problem
[12:05] <melvztechie> anybody has seen this error , configuring and starting mrtg?
[12:05] <N6REJ> topyli: its downloading alot of stuff
[12:06] <propagandhi> damo21: okay although it wasnt what i was saying
[12:06] <kemik> melvztechie:  dont paste in here, use pastebin (url in topic)
[12:06] <N6REJ> topyli: says 25 minutes
[12:06] <damo21> :)
[12:06] <Proko> lol lethal
[12:06] <melvztechie> oh sorry
[12:06] <melvztechie> :D
[12:06] <topyli> N6REJ: good, it must be upgrading a bunch of packages. dpkg may still choke later of course :(
[12:06] <N6REJ> topyli: yeah, thats whats been happening.
[12:06] <sifl_> Yetr2: it dropped my processing % back down, but still no printing...
[12:07] <Proko> [LethAL]  , I need those...
[12:07] <[LethAL] > Proko, If you can't get it from the Ubuntu repos, try to build the source and build that, download that deb and install it
[12:07] <Proko> :-/
[12:07] <[LethAL] > I can't type today :/
[12:07] <N6REJ> topyli:  at least postfix is SENDING mail LOL.. won't recieve it yet but it does send.  Well, it won't let me connect to it yet... lets put it that way.
[12:08] <sifl_> Yetr2: i really think it's my printer, i am able to print to my friends printer on a linux box and he lives a mile away
[12:08] <N6REJ> topyli: course the installer never asked for the domain name either :(
[12:08] <Proko> k [LethAL]
[12:08] <damo21> does alien create proper ubuntu-safe packages?
[12:08] <[LethAL] > damo21, not really
[12:08] <Yetr2> sifl_, what distrobution is he using
[12:08] <Proko> there is absolutely no way of adding other repos ?
[12:08] <topyli> damo21: depends on the phase of the moon and the power of your prayers
[12:08] <damo21> :D
[12:08] <liran_> when im configuring my router for WEP encryption security and put in a passphrase, it generates a hex key. which of those do i feed to the wireless netwrok laptop? (the passphrase or the hex key?)
[12:08] <[LethAL] > Proko, there is, but like I said, unless you're on a deathwish...
[12:09] <sifl_> Yetr2: hoary on one box, the one with the printer and breezy on the other one
[12:09] <propagandhi> damo21: they often work though, and if they dont you can always remove them
[12:09] <[LethAL] > liran_, probably the hex key
[12:09] <melvztechie> just want to know any HOW-TO for mrtg configuration in Ubuntu? tanks
[12:09] <[LethAL] > melvztechie, man mrtg?
[12:09] <damo21> i saw a couple on the ubuntu wikis for the "less legal" packages
[12:09] <Yetr2> sifl_, I would still try setting the logging facility to max and try to figure it out that way.
[12:11] <sifl_> Yetr2: well, i'm not gonna give up on it just yet, and i still have to get sound working on this box, but i'm gonna head in for the night, thanks for all your help :)
[12:11] <dooglus> how do you configure firefox to open popup windows in a new tab, rather than in a new window?
[12:11] <[LethAL] > dooglus, install tab mix or tab mix plus
[12:11] <damo21> I would like to become an advocate for ubuntu... ive already helped a few people install hoary at uni
[12:11] <dooglus> [
[12:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : is it possible to do without using extensions?
[12:12] <[LethAL] > dooglus, I don't know, try about:config
[12:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : ok, thanks.
[12:12] <poyie> ei ned some help
[12:12] <[LethAL] > dooglus, I have no idea what to look for in there though ;)
[12:12] <propagandhi> dooglus: edit -> preferences -> advanced
[12:12] <poyie> how to dual parttion xp and ubuntu?
[12:12] <topyli> damo21: so you are already doing what you want :)
[12:12] <dooglus> [LethAL] : I'm trying to work out exactly when http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm crashes firefox, and when it doesn't
[12:13] <damo21> yes :D how do you use the OEM setup method?
[12:13] <poyie> how to dual parttion xp and ubuntu?
[12:13] <damo21> is there a wiki for that?
[12:13] <Syruss> anyway, anyone here use network-manager? I'm having problems with it's use of bind to do dns caching in that resolving works for a while, then just stops working for certain websites.
[12:13] <dooglus> propagandhi: which setting in advanced?
[12:13] <[LethAL] > dooglus, I click the link, if I click on the page the tab dies and if I click on the link I get another one
[12:13] <damo21> how do u install to many machines at once
[12:14] <propagandhi> dooglus: the tabbed browsing setting
[12:14] <dooglus> propagandhi: which one?
[12:14] <damo21> i was thinking of converting a whole computer lab to ubuntu
[12:14] <propagandhi> dooglus: 'a new tab in the most recent window'
[12:14] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:15] <dooglus> propagandhi: that's for links from other apps, not popups from within firefox
[12:15] <propagandhi> ok, i misread the popups bit sorry
[12:15] <dodgyville> ifup eth0 gives me "no dhcpoffers received" with my adsl modem plugged in.
[12:16] <[LethAL] > dodgyville, Your ADSL modem won't have a dhcp server...
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> have people had problems with postfix during dist-upgrades from hoary-> breezy?
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi [LethAL]  :)
[12:16] <damo21> Why arent schools using edubuntu? its free!
[12:16] <[LethAL] > Hey KK
[12:16] <Syruss> damo21, fear.
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:16] <dodgyville> [LethAL]  I can plug the modem into an ibook2 running breezy, and it works, but on my PC running breezy it doesn't.
[12:16] <Syruss> fear of the unknown
[12:16] <[LethAL] > dodgyville, Oh, is it an ethernet modem?
[12:16] <ProkoAFK> bye
[12:16] <Syruss> it's up to linux users to spread the word and show people first hand that linux is good
[12:17] <Syruss> don't expect it to just happen.
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> Syruss: and (at least in aust) the government is in bed with MS
[12:17] <damo21> Come! Let us show them
[12:17] <dodgyville> [LethAL]  Yes.
[12:17] <Syruss> yer many governments are corrupted with microsoft's money
[12:17] <Syruss> some aren't though
[12:17] <Syruss> so don't lose hope
[12:17] <Syruss> :p
[12:17] <[LethAL] > dodgyville, Try and find better drivers for your network card. That's all I can say, sorry
[12:18] <[LethAL] > My school's web server now runs Moodle on SuSE iirc
[12:18] <topyli> damo21: i don't think the oem install method is ready
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, australias gov spends 2.8mil (bil?) P/A on licences
[12:18] <[LethAL] > Still 6 other W2k3 servers... :-(
[12:18] <damo21> Oh ok... Ubuntu should focus on the OEM setup method
[12:18] <damo21> make it as easy to install as windows
[12:18] <damo21> :D
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : when the 6 k2 servers keep dying and the suse box doesnt, things will change ;)
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> wtf damo21? doze easy to install? adn breezy has an oem mode now :O
[12:19] <damo21> Does it? Cool
[12:19] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, 2k3... not k2... and for some reason they all need Dual Xeons and 1GB RAM... :O
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : 'some reason' :D, but ok, 2k3 is better then 2k server
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i maintain 2k is better tehn xp :D
[12:20] <damo21> Where can i find information about the oem method for ubuntu?
[12:20] <kemik> !terminal
[12:20] <ubotu> terminal is, like, in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.
[12:20] <topyli> damo21: install one and run dpkg --get-selections > /floppy/packages.lst . then install minimal installs on other boxen and run dpkg --get-selections < /floppy/packages.lst :)
[12:20] <damo21> Ohhh!
[12:20] <topyli> you get identical installations
[12:20] <damo21> awesome!
[12:21] <damo21> Now thats the sort of code that should be posted on a wiki
[12:21] <damo21> :)
[12:21] <topyli> damo21: that's a good way of saving your package selection for disaster recovery. when you reinstall, just do dkpg --get-selections and restore /etc from backups :)
[12:21] <damo21> yeah
[12:22] <BockBilbo> !lirc
[12:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, BockBilbo
[12:23] <damo21> Ohhh and then ubuntu automatically configures itself for each computers hardware
[12:23] <[LethAL] > ubotu, no, terminal is in Gnome, to get to a terminal, open the Applications menu from the top panel and You will find a terminal item in Accessories (Breezy) or in System Tools (Hoary). If you want to be able to right-click on the desktop or a folder to open the terminal, install nautilus-open-terminal (sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal)
[12:23] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL]
[12:23] <damo21> with identical packages!
[12:23] <topyli> damo21: on a good day, yes .)
[12:23] <dmabowen> I need help!  I just installed Ubuntu (1st time with Linux) and I created a username at install.  I need to log in as Root..  what is the default password for root?
[12:23] <BockBilbo> !lirc
[12:23] <ubotu> somebody said lirc was at http://www.lirc.com
[12:23] <epic_> dmabowen,  you do not log in as root
[12:23] <Blejdfist> dmabowen: sudo -s and type your own password
[12:23] <nitroflea> is the w32codecs package available through the ubuntu repositories? or where can I get 'em?
[12:23] <dmabowen> Thanks!
[12:23] <[LethAL] > !tell dmabowen about rootsudo
[12:24] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, It's best not to have a root pwd
[12:24] <[LethAL] > See what ubotu told you
[12:24] <dmabowen> W/o a root pwd how do I login?
[12:24] <[LethAL] > With your standard login name
[12:24] <epic_> log in as the user you created during install
[12:24] <BockBilbo> can you guys tell me of any good remote control for linux?
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> you dont log in as root
[12:24] <[LethAL] > And password
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> you log in as you
[12:25] <epic_> you will be prompted for your password when root privs are needed, and in a terminal use sudo 'command'
[12:25] <[LethAL] > epic_, ubotu has told him about that ;)
[12:25] <dmabowen> The first account has Root privs?
[12:25] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, no
[12:25] <intelikey> of course all ^ that assumes a standard install
[12:26] <epic_> [LethAL] ,    that's doesn't mean it was understood
[12:26] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, the first account can use gksudo, gnome-sudo and sudo with their own pwds
[12:26] <dodgyville> When I plug an ADSL modem in my ethernet card, should it register somewhere on the system? (ie dmesg)?
[12:26] <dmabowen> Thanks guys!
[12:26] <[LethAL] > dmabowen, unless you did expert install...
[12:26] <pef> hello
[12:26] <epic_> is ubotu supybot?
[12:26] <[LethAL] > no
[12:26] <[LethAL] > blootbot
[12:26] <epic_> k, ta.
[12:27] <[LethAL] > i.e. modded infobot
[12:27] <[LethAL] > In the repos though ;)
[12:27] <epic_> I can't remember how I got root-tail working with gnome/nautilus in the past
[12:27] <epic_> it has been done though
[12:27] <johnsie2> hi.... Does anyone know how I can add something to the "system path"?
[12:28] <damo21> topyli: would that method work if u also include some non-standard packages? id have to backup the repository file too.. :D
[12:28] <topyli> yes, you need an identical sources.list of course
[12:28] <epic_> johnsie2,   edit your .bash_profile
[12:28] <Ng> if you can't get root-tail going there are log tailing components for gdesklets, if you can stand to run that much python ;)
[12:28] <johnsie2> how?
[12:28] <damo21> awesome
[12:29] <epic_> johnsie2,   use a tect editor
[12:29] <epic_> the file is in your home dir
[12:29] <epic_> *text
[12:29] <intelikey> johnsie2 put it in /usr/local/bin    or add the location it is in to your path.
[12:29] <topyli> damo21: the problems begin when you have built some packages of your own. then you'd need a local apt repository (which is easy enough to make)
[12:30] <nikls> do someone use a canon IP1500 printer on ubuntu?
[12:30] <intelikey> putting things in the system standard path makes all users able to access them without hassel.
[12:30] <hansi_xp> join #enlightenment
[12:30] <epic_> if that's what you want, yes.
[12:31] <damo21> yeah im thinking id want to make a smaller specialised set of packages just for schools etc and a smaller, simpler menu system
[12:31] <damo21> i'll play with edubuntu perhaps
[12:31] <topyli> sounds like a plan
[12:31] <dooglus> epic_: you use root-tail?  you're the first person i've heard talk about it :)
[12:32] <damo21> sounds like easy scripting to make wide-installs easy :D
[12:33] <epic_> I did use it
[12:33] <topyli> damo21: yeah, you can have a floppy with a sources.list, the package list and a menu structure to put in /usr/share. perhaps default user settings for /etc/skeleton. plus the script that handles everything
[12:34] <niXnutz> is there anybody who knows how to install an usb wlan stick on ubuntu?
[12:34] <dooglus> epic_: I used to use it.  I wrote quite a lot of it, too
[12:34] <damo21> yeah :D
[12:34] <nikls> I downloaded drivers for 'pixma IP1500' printer on Canon Support site, but the drivers were '.rpm' type, I converted them with 'alien' but 4 .rpm files gave me only 3 .deb files, then after installing those my printer still don't work.
[12:35] <damo21> topyli: you should write a wiki for this, help schools set-up lots of computers
[12:35] <damo21> :D
[12:35] <epic_> dooglus = Mike Baker?
[12:35] <topyli> damo21: i could write something for the wiki. or the HOWTO section of the forums
[12:36] <damo21> would be cool
[12:36] <dooglus> epic_: no, Chris Moore.  I made most of the recent changes
[12:36] <damo21> im not very familiar with /etc/skeleton
[12:36] <abhayks> waiting for breezy release
[12:36] <[LethAL] > 6 days :D
[12:36] <Hobbsee> abhayks: why not just install it now?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> it's stable enough
[12:37] <johnsie2> ok where is the .bash_profile?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> grab a daily cd of it, and upgrade with that
[12:37] <Hobbsee> or dist upgrade if you're feeling risky
[12:38] <intelikey> johnsie2 look in your home dir
[12:38] <Tomcat_> nikls: I doubt anybody can help with such a specific problem. Try finding information on how other people installed the driver on non-RPM distros. Or ask the vendor to supply a driver for Debian-based distros.
[12:38] <damo21> like, how u create proper skeleton settings for say, different groups of students
[12:38] <topyli> damo21: hm. i don't seem to have one. i'm remembering another distro i guess. on redhat-like systems, it's a directory with default settings that are copied to new users' home directories, like bashrc and such
[12:38] <abhayks> Hobbsee, I have to re-format my existing hoary upgraded system, so want to do a clean install once and for all ( 6 months I mean)
[12:38] <damo21> this is supported in ubuntu?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> abhayks: is your /home on a separate partition?
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/skel ? not sure if you can customise it for different groups theough
[12:39] <damo21> yeah
[12:39] <topyli> damo21: i don't know really, i've never used it on any system :)
[12:39] <intelikey> if you are trying to make a system wide path change though it will have to be in /etc/profile but be careful there it is system wide. johnsie2
[12:39] <nikls> Tomcat_: thanks anyway
[12:39] <topyli> Kamping_Kaiser: ah, skel not skeleton
[12:39] <epic_> johnsie2, open your home die with your file browser  (menu, placews, home) and hit Ctrl +H to display hidden files/folders
[12:39] <epic_> *dir
[12:40] <epic_> hmm I need a bigger keyboard or less fat fingers  :/
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> topyli: yeh, thats it
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> *just checked*
[12:40] <damo21> yep
[12:40] <damo21> thanks for help i will look in man pages
[12:40] <damo21> :D
[12:41] <sorush20> is there a parental control program for ubuntu..
[12:41] <Hobbsee> sorush20: what are you looking to do?
[12:42] <sorush20> Hobbsee: just to prevent porn on the computer firefox
[12:42] <johnsie2> ok I'm in the .bash_profile... whaty do i change?
[12:43] <intelikey> johnsie2 add a line at the end "export PATH="$PATH:<your added path>"
[12:43] <epic_> johnsie2, apend the extra dir after the }  in    PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"    put a : between them
[12:43] <Hobbsee> sorush20: i guess you'd look at some filter software, probably check google
[12:43] <intelikey> where <your added path> is the fully qualified path
[12:44] <ubuntulover>
[12:44] <ubuntulover>
[12:44] <topyli> wow, that's a lot of typos
[12:44] <deFrysk>
[12:44] <intelikey> epic_ why not use export ?
[12:44] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget spam
[12:44] <ubotu> i forgot spam, [LethAL]
[12:45] <epic_> no reason intelikey, was just what I thought of first
[12:45] <ubuntulover>
[12:45] <epic_> and it builds on the current .bash_profile style
[12:45] <epic_> ubuntulover,   #ubuntu-TW
[12:46] <johnsie2> so like.... PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}":/home/john/RealPlayer10
[12:46] <intelikey> with export
[12:46] <epic_> do not forget to enclose it in "'s
[12:46] <Cryptid> Which of these emulators are better Qemu,VMware,crossoffice?
[12:46] <johnsie2> export PATH="$PATH:/home/john/RealPlayer10"
[12:47] <intelikey> yep
[12:47] <Alex_BO> HELLO!how can i set a program's autostart in ubuntu hoary?
[12:47] <[LethAL] > Cryptid, I've only used VMware, but Wine and Cedga are good non-emulators
[12:47] <[LethAL] > Cedega*
[12:47] <enodev> alex_do: save your session when logging off
[12:47] <epic_> johnsie2,   or just put Realplayer in your /home/john/bin  dir
[12:48] <Ng> installing RealPlayer systemwide is far easier than into a homedirectory. it's also neater
[12:48] <enodev> alex: the programs that run will be run the next time you log in
[12:48] <deFrysk> messy realplayer :D
[12:48] <intelikey> johnsie2 to test it open a terminal and type "echo $PATH"
[12:48] <epic_> not that anything works with rp anyway
[12:48] <dooglus> epic_: I found one way to get root-tail to work with gnome:  run the configuration editor and uncheck apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop.  you'll lose your desktop icons and desktop right-click functionality, but you'll gain root-tail :)
[12:48] <Ng> epic_: if you install 10 properly it works fine
[12:48] <deFrysk> rp works fine here
[12:48] <epic_> dooglus,   yeah, I heard that before
[12:49] <werto> yo * ^__^
[12:49] <Ng> the plugin is actually useful these days :)
[12:49] <bayram> wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:49] <epic_> deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8>?
[12:49] <epic_> deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8.?
[12:49] <Cryptid> [LethAL] , i installed VMware but durin the installation i did some thing wrong and i dont know how to uninstall it & if i try to reinstall VMware it gives me a error saying that "a previous installation has been detected:installation will exit now" what do i do to get rid of this error?
[12:49] <barongas> Is there any way to make consistent gamma changes? Many programs override my fglrx_xgamma adjustments (my monitor is VERY dark)?
[12:49] <werto> i'm in trouble------- __
[12:49] <epic_> Ng  more info please
[12:49] <dooglus> epic_: you keep your desktop wallpaper, too.  I think I'll leave it like that - I never use desktop icons anyway
[12:49] <werto> someone can help me?
[12:49] <deFrysk> epic_, I installed the rpm after using alien
[12:49] <intelikey> yeah epic_ i would have put it in /usr/local/bin to begin with....
[12:49] <Alex_BO> enodev: ah okey.that's very comfortable.but if I would like to set it manually?is there a configuration file?
[12:49] <johnsie2> it didnt come up when i used echo... do i need to reboot?
[12:49] <epic_> deFrysk,   what RPM?
[12:49] <deFrysk> epic_, I symlinked realplay to /usr/bin
[12:50] <epic_> johnsie2,   just type bash
[12:50] <epic_> then try
[12:50] <enodev> alex: its in system->settings->session
[12:50] <N6REJ> topyli: nope, it keeps crashing on update :(  I told it NOT to use the universe packages in sources.list this time.
[12:50] <Ng> epic_: uninstall the rp8 package if you have it, then go to http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=hc.org to get the Linux version of RP10
[12:50] <deFrysk> and copied the plugin iof the mozillafolder in realplayerfolder to the pluginfolder of firefox, done
[12:50] <epic_> Ng,   thanks, I looked around that site for ages
[12:50] <clark070> guys
[12:50] <clark070> got a question here
[12:50] <epic_> it pissed me off no end
[12:50] <Ng> epic_: yeah, it's a bitch to find. I always follow the link from helixcommunity.org :)
[12:50] <clark070> can't boot on the cd that i burnd
[12:50] <werto> i was trying use fglrx ati driver with xorg, but everything is mad, i've to use my ati radeon xpress 200m with xorg vesa driver.... what should i do????? ___
[12:50] <epic_> appreciated
[12:50] <topyli> N6REJ: sounds more difficult than my brain can handle :(
[12:51] <clark070> how can i make it bootable
[12:51] <Ng> epic_: basically, when you install it, use sudo and tell it to install systemwide
[12:51] <Alex_BO> enodev: is there a file to set?i love the shell :-)
[12:51] <epic_> Ng  plan to
[12:51] <bayram> ich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:51] <bayram> epic_ deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8>?
[12:51] <bayram> epic_ deFrysk,   I can only find an older version of RP, 8.?
[12:51] <bayram> Cryptid [LethAL] , i installed VMware but du
[12:51] <MaTaKs> help pls. i have error upgrading hoag to breezy
[12:51] <MaTaKs> Fetched 3271kB in 1m35s (34.3kB/s)
[12:51] <MaTaKs> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:51] <MaTaKs> Reading package lists... Done
[12:51] <MaTaKs> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:51] <johnsie2> dang it didnt come up on the echo
[12:51] <MaTaKs> why is that
[12:51] <Ng> epic_: it will put symlinks in /usr/bin/ and then "realplay" will be in your path :)
[12:51] <epic_> not that anyone else uses this puter anyway  :)
[12:51] <N6REJ> topyli: I hear ya... It's giving me a migrain.  I hope they fix the bug in the breezy installer FAST
[12:51] <deFrysk> bayram, I did not use the repo
[12:51] <[LethAL] > ubotu, no, themes istry installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from art.gnome.org. Some sites with various themes from Gnome include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/
[12:51] <[LethAL] > 57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[12:51] <ubotu> [LethAL] : I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:51] <[LethAL] > grr
[12:51] <enodev> alex: there are several, ie .xsession
[12:51] <nikls> ubuntulover:
[12:51] <clark070> i downloaded the one from ubuntu.com
[12:51] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:51] <clark070> put it to cd
[12:51] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:51] <clark070> but it won't boot
[12:51] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:52] <N6REJ> topyli: is there a way to tell if they have fixed it?
[12:52] <clark070> what's the problem with it
[12:52] <Alex_BO> enodev: okey.thank you so much man
[12:52] <werto> HEI!!!
[12:52] <enodev> no problem alex
[12:52] <thoreauputic> bayram: #ubuntu-de
[12:52] <intelikey> ?
[12:52] <bayram> ya
[12:52] <irvin> where can i get gst-register? apt-cache search showed none
[12:52] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:52] <topyli> N6REJ: i just installed breezy for a colleague from the colony 4 cd with no problem at all
[12:52] <[LethAL] > !de
[12:52] <deFrysk> epic_, http://www.real.com/player/?src=realplayer
[12:52] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[12:52] <clark070> topyli: how can i make a bootable ubuntu cd
[12:52] <epic_> deFrysk,   got it, thanks  :)
[12:52] <thoreauputic> bayram: one more repeat and you are out
[12:53] <clark070> thoreauputic: pls help
[12:53] <topyli> clark070: just burn the iso you find on ubuntu.com and it's bootable
[12:53] <N6REJ> topyli: whats the colony 4 cd?
[12:53] <clark070> the one that i burnd is not a bootable cd
[12:53] <nikls> ubuntulover:
[12:53] <clark070> topyli: it won't
[12:53] <MaTaKs> help pls. i have error upgrading hoag to breezy
[12:53] <MaTaKs> Fetched 3271kB in 1m35s (34.3kB/s)
[12:53] <clark070> topyli: that's my problem
[12:53] <MaTaKs> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:53] <MaTaKs> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:53] <twibbler> Here is another ? for a Friday .... Java-jar is it available on ubuntu... if so is it safe to install ?...
[12:54] <clark070> it's a zip file that i downloaded, then i unzip it and burn it
[12:54] <deFrysk> MaTaKs, apdate and try again
[12:54] <clark070> but won't boot at all
[12:54] <deFrysk> update*
[12:54] <topyli> N6REJ: from cdimage.ubuntu.com, the beta versions come in "colonies". we're at "colony 4" now
[12:54] <N6REJ> clark070: you DON"T unzip it!!! you tell your software to burn a "iso" or "Image"
[12:54] <MaTaKs> oh man it takes like 4 hours to upgrade
[12:54] <topyli> clark070: the cd images are not zips but isos
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> breezy is more bleeding edge than gentoo package-wise
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> gentoo aint usin gnome 2.12
[12:55] <N6REJ> topyli: 1007?
[12:55] <bayram>  wer kann mier helfen ich habe ubuntu insatliert es gefelt mier aber ich weis nich wie kann ich ein rpm unter ubuntu instaliere zum bei spiel skype bitte helfen sie mier
[12:55] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, yes they do, its just still masked
[12:55] <ColonelKernel> Hmm
[12:56] <clark070> oh my god
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> still masked means not stable
[12:56] <irvin> my sound card is detected as VIA 8235, this was working on hoary but not in breezy with current updates. the error requires running gst-register but i can't find it...
[12:56] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, breezy is not stable yet either ;)
[12:56] <epic_> Anyone here use Ubuntu on a server?
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> no but on oct 13 it will be
[12:56] <N6REJ> bayram: miene Duestche ich nich gut!! Duestche ich nicht gut here... sprechen eine americana
[12:56] <epic_> English thankyou  :P
[12:56] <thoreauputic> bayram: you were warned - please join #ubuntu-de
[12:56] <N6REJ> thats what I said epic
[12:56] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, so ?
[12:57] <clark070> N6REJ: then why my winrar still unzip it
[12:57] <N6REJ> he want to know how to install skype lol
[12:57] <N6REJ> clark070: beats me but it shouldn't touch it!
[12:57] <ColonelKernel> deFrysk, just noting thats the most up-to-date gnome on a distro ive seen
[12:57] <epic_> Sorry, I thought you said americn
[12:57] <topyli> N6REJ: that's the daily build. the "colony" releases may be more stable
[12:57] <N6REJ> clark070: what burning software do you use?
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> using rpm by the look
[12:57] <[LethAL] > clark070, winrar can extract isos. use a CD burning software
[12:57] <[LethAL] > clark070, CDBurnerXP is a good'un
[12:57] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, frugalware has gnome2.12 on stable
[12:57] <epic_> clark070,   ope n it with nero if you have it
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> never heard of frugalware
[12:58] <clark070> topyli: nero 6
[12:58] <N6REJ> epic_: I did, If I'm remembering right its the german word for english LOL
[12:58] <N6REJ> or at least american.
[12:58] <epic_> mm anglice  I think
[12:58] <topyli> clark070: winzip thinks it's being helpful. sometimes you want to look inside the iso to see what's on the cd
[12:58] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, then hush ;)
[12:58] <[LethAL] > american != english != british
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> N6REJ: i doubt it is tbh, but you never know
[12:58] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:58] <topyli> clark070: so tell nero to burn it as an image. otherwise you'll end up with a cd with an iso file inside it
[12:58] <clark070> topyli: oh my goodness
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : yeh :D
[12:59] <N6REJ> I'm still learning.. LOL
[12:59] <N6REJ> I think he got the message though.
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> frugalware says stable release isnt out yet
[12:59] <AlphaFaction> hey all, what do you gyes think is the best program for sorting out the id3 tags of a huge mp3 collection? cowbell seems great but it can only do an album at a time
[12:59] <clark070> topyli: i wasted a good cd there
[12:59] <N6REJ> topyli:  where do you see colony?
[12:59] <topyli> clark070: we always need coasters, right? i have a windows server 2003 cd as a coaster right here :)
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : N6REJ http://babelfish.altavista.com/ . english =englisch
[01:00] <N6REJ> topyli:  lol :P
[01:00] <[LethAL] > I have a Fedora Core 4 CD 3 Coffee mat :P
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:00] <N6REJ> Kamping_Kaiser: :P
[01:00] <aftertaf> lol
[01:00] <topyli> N6REJ: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-4/
[01:00] <nikls> what drivers provided with ubuntu can I use for a Canon pixma IP1500 printer?
[01:00] <clark070> topyli: so when i open nero
[01:00] <clark070> topyli: i'll go to "Disc Image or Save Project"
[01:00] <[LethAL] > clark070, It's referred to 'Burn Image or saved project' in nero express
[01:00] <clark070> ok
[01:00] <clark070> got it
[01:01] <[LethAL] > clark070, yes, you'll need to chnge the filetype I think
[01:01] <[LethAL] > change*
[01:01] <Hobbsee> N6REJ: why not just get one of the daily releases, also on that page?  it'd be more upto date
[01:01] <topyli> clark070: i have never seen nero but something like "burn image" should be somewhere there
[01:01] <clark070> topyli: i nedd to spend another 3 hours to download the file
[01:01] <N6REJ> Hobbsee: good idea!
[01:01] <Hobbsee> clark070: nero indeed burns image files
[01:01] <fish> hi. how can i get gedit to not be opened twice, but rather to have new documents automatically open as a new tab within the same program/window? (Just like a web browser)? I'm talking about the time when i double click a file in the GUI.
[01:01] <Hobbsee> N6REJ: :P did the same thing yesterday with kubuntu
[01:01] <[LethAL] > I wish my burner worked :(
[01:02] <topyli> clark070: you have broken the iso?
[01:02] <clark070> topyli: after using winrar, i permanently deleted it from my hard drive
[01:02] <[LethAL] > :D
[01:02] <clark070> topyli: i tot, it was a zip file 'cause it inherits the icon of winrar
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> well when gentoo goes to 2.12 ill try it out, cant wait to try stable breezy tho
[01:02] <[LethAL] > Yeah, I hate that 'feature'
[01:02] <clark070> [LethAL] : why.? ;-)
[01:02] <[LethAL] > Because you deleted the ISO
[01:03] <epic_> oh no
[01:03] <thoreauputic> clark070: any program that thinks an iso is a zip file is braindead
[01:03] <N6REJ> lol, you can change that clark, just un associate that , or go into nero and tell it to reassociate its files.
[01:03] <N6REJ> thoreauputic: here here!
[01:03] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, WinRAR reads ISO files fine...
[01:03] <epic_> ye  right click it and 'open with other application'   choose nero
[01:03] <[LethAL] > thoreauputic, but it is braindead
[01:03] <clark070> yeah it reads
[01:03] <N6REJ> epic_: shift right click :D
[01:03] <clark070> but i did is i unzip it
[01:03] <clark070> knowing that it'll be fine when i burn it
[01:03] <N6REJ> clark070: OOOPPS... redownload it :D
[01:03] <Hobbsee> lol...it's not supposed to be unzipped...
[01:03] <[LethAL] > ubotu, forget dude
[01:04] <epic_> N6REJ,    nice  :P
[01:04] <ubotu> i forgot dude, [LethAL]
[01:04] <thoreauputic> [LethAL] : it leads people into the problem clark070 has
[01:04] <topyli> thoreauputic: file-roller will do the same, but at least gnome doesn't change the icon
[01:04] <clark070> so you where saying guys that the cd i have now is TOTALLY USELESS
[01:04] <epic_> Anyone here use Ubuntu in a sesrver environemnt?