[04:40] <ima> alright, got a problem on ubuntu 9.10, everytime I log in I get a black screen for a little while and then I get back to the Login screen.
[04:40] <mrpink57> rich97: have you tried cp -r this will create the new dir if needed I do not know if it takes hidden files though
[04:40] <rich97> onetinsoldier:  Thanks, I've tried that too but I get "no such file or folder"
[04:40] <maverick> Snayth, free
[04:40] <rich97> mrpink57: I can give it a go
[04:40] <lacita> snayth: sudo ck-RAM upmaass
[04:40] <Fauntix> @lacita: when I turn on the computer it tries to load and gives me a black promt screen with that written in it
[04:40] <maverick> how to write this kind of syntax correctly "sudo ( echo abc > /etc/resolve.conf ), show error around (
[04:41] <lacita> Fauntix: reinstall GRUB.
[04:41] <Fauntix> from the 9.1 disk I burnt?
[04:41] <maverick> how to write this kind of syntax correctly "sudo ( echo abc > /etc/resolve.conf ), show error around (
[04:42] <LuksPartition> lacita: wtf is ck-ram upmaass thats not ok in this channel
[04:42] <ima> haha
[04:42] <LuksPartition> yea its funny but not appropriate ;-P
[04:42] <lacita> Lukspartition: LULZ
[04:42] <yobbo> maverick, just remove the brackets is ok you shouldn't need them
[04:43] <LuksPartition> !ops
[04:43] <ima> Alright, anyone had a similar problem to mine?
[04:43] <snayth> maverick: Hey Thank you - That was easy enough - Not like going to the dentist at all......
[04:43] <Fauntix> @lucita: from the 9.1 disk I burnt?
[04:44] <maverick> yobbo, that way the output would not be written in /etc/resolve.conf
[04:45] <maverick> how to write this kind of syntax correctly "sudo ( echo abc > /etc/resolve.conf ), show error around (
[04:45] <Flannel> maverick: echo [stuff] | sudo tee /etc/resolve.conf (you'll be overwriting) use | sudo tee -a /etc/resolve.conf to append
[04:45] <Baloo1> hello
[04:45] <ima> When I log in to my Ubuntu 9.10, I get a black screen for 2 seconds and then get back to my login screen, command line works fine though.
[04:46] <IdleOne> Flannel: pm?
[04:46] <Flannel> IdleOne: Always
[04:47] <Flannel> IdleOne: er, "anytime" might be less ambiguous
[04:47] <Myke516> Greetings im looking for some help with an ubuntu install. After I installed ubuntu, the computer freezes after i select my name at login... any idea?
[04:47] <arghh2d2> ima: try startx from command line
[04:48] <meepmoop> anyone know how to change the amount of times WICD tries to auto reconnect on connection loss I'd like to try and have a way for it to keep trying to connect till its successful
[04:48] <mrpink57> ima: sounds like you are getting a xorg error
[04:48] <Baloo1> i got a prolem wit my ubuntu the windows arent manageble
[04:48] <lacita> anyone know how to format a Dell Utility partition on a drive with a gpt partition table type?
[04:48] <ima> arghh2d2, mrpink57, yeah I'm dual booting though, so I want to know approximately what to do before I go back.
[04:48] <Myke516> as soon as i select the name, there is a few lines of multicolored weird junk and thats it, i cant put in my password to go further, it just freezes
[04:49] <arghh2d2> ima: run startx from the command line so you can read the error messages
[04:49] <jimisrvrox> anybody in here good with wireless? I am needing some help with my rt2500
[04:49] <Myke516> so any ideas that might help?
[04:49] <IdleOne> !coc > lacita
[04:50] <ima> arghh2d2, alright, I will be back in a bit.
[04:50] <Baloo1> do any one know wat the problem may be
[04:50] <Quirkly> YAYYAYAYAY I HAS WIRELESS LOL
[04:50] <Quirkly> just took a reboot cause it got all confused about who was managing what wireless lol
[04:50] <Linux-CLI> hi
[04:50] <Quirkly> ps anyone know a good text mode irc client, that has colours and stuff......besides nirc?
[04:51] <arghh2d2> Quirkly: with wicd?
[04:51] <jimisrvrox> Quirkly: I might just be having a similar problem...
[04:51] <Myke516> i think it my graphic card not being set up right. Anyone here know how to boot into ubuntu in safe graphic mode?
[04:51] <arghh2d2> Quirkly: irssi ftw!
[04:51] <rich97> mrpink57: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-do-i-move-hidden-files-188367 It appears the only way is to tar and extract again.
[04:51] <Quirkly> arghh2d2 that's the one I might've been looking for
[04:51] <nytek_> Quirkly: irssi
[04:51] <Quirkly> awesome
[04:51] <Quirkly> thanks :)
[04:51] <Random832> Quirkly; irssi, bitchx, epic4, xchat-text
[04:51] <Quirkly> also arghh2d2 the wicd thing is what did the trick
[04:51] <Random832> is xchat-text even around anymore?
[04:51] <nytek_> Quirkly: irssi is definitely my favorite, cli irc
[04:52] <arghh2d2> irssi is bitchx all grown up
[04:52] <Flannel> mrpink57, rich97: cp -r .[^.]* should work
[04:52] <Quirkly> irssi will be, once I get my music going
[04:52] <Quirkly> priorities you know
[04:52] <mrpink57> rich97: it kind of makes sense since they're hidden but rather annoying
[04:52] <jimisrvrox> My wireless problem: http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[04:52] <arghh2d2> mpd+ncmpcpp!
[04:52] <Random832> i've heard things about something called weechat
[04:52] <mrpink57> rich97: maybe try a symbolic link to the file to the other dir lol
[04:52] <arghh2d2> i'm all about cli apps
[04:52] <Linux-CLI> I'm trying to install a .deb package, however it told me that I already had a package in use (because I pressed Ctrl+C on "sudo apt-get install patch"). So I gave up & just rebooted. Still getting the error when trying to install the .deb package, any ideas?
[04:53] <Baloo1> does anyone have a clue wat im talking about
[04:54] <Quirkly> HOLY DAMN FLASHY STUFF
[04:54] <Quirkly> lol
[04:54] <Quirkly> and colours, yay
[04:55] <arghh2d2> jimisrvrox: damn, that looks rough
[04:55] <jimisrvrox> eyeah
[04:55] <Linux-CLI> I'm trying to install a .deb package, however it told me that I already had a package in use (because I pressed Ctrl+C on "sudo apt-get install patch"). So I gave up & just rebooted. Still getting the error when trying to install the .deb package, any ideas?
[04:56] <jimisrvrox> this damn rt2500 has been a problem for me ever since 8.04!
[04:56] <arghh2d2> jimisrvrox: do you have the ethernet plugged in?
[04:56] <collabra> gdebi package
[04:56] <mrpink57> jimisrvrox: do you live in an English speaking country?
[04:56] <jimisrvrox> yeah right now
[04:56] <b0x_> hi, would anyone be able to help me setting up the qtorrent webui?
[04:56] <rich97> mrpink57: I would but I'm trying to make an install readme, git clone clones the folders into a subdirectory with the name of the repository. I'm trying to come up with a single comment that will clone and then take all of the files out of the git created subdirectory and place them in the current directory.
[04:56] <jimisrvrox> well to me that stuff is wingdings
[04:56] <collabra> Linux-CLI:  gdebi package
[04:56] <IdleOne> !pm | lacita
[04:57] <arghh2d2> jimisrvrox: rt2500 is supposed to have builtin support but it used to be used with ndiswrapper and i'm sure you could still use that
[04:57] <collabra> it'll install any .deb package well
[04:57] <jimisrvrox> yeah supposed to but meh..not a big fan of ndis..
[04:57] <Baloo1> does any one here have experience with ubuntu on a ps3
[04:57] <jimisrvrox> arghh2d2: mind if I pm?
[04:57] <arghh2d2> jimisrvrox: n/p
[04:57] <IdleOne> lacita: I told you in the other channel I am not interested in helping you. do not msg me again. thank you
[04:57] <meepmoop> Baloo: what you trying to do just stream media?
[04:58] <ThatGuyOverThere> Does anybody know how to set up a network bridge?
[04:58] <jimisrvrox> o
[04:58] <jimisrvrox> k
[04:58] <lacita> IdleOne: That's the spirit.
[04:58] <zy3g0> hi
[04:59] <ima> x starts up fine
[04:59] <mrpink57> rich97: I asked in the Gentoo IRC and they said all files under the mv command should move hidden also.  Do you lack permissions?
[04:59] <NoTownKasper> Question: Installed Vega Strike, it runs just fine if I execute the binary from within it's folder (So I assume the problem isn't with the program itself), but if I set up a gnome link, even directly to that same binary, it fails to load...any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:59] <meepmoop> Baloo1:what are you trying to do with your ps3?
[04:59] <rich97> mrpink57: Nope it's in my home directory. ~/Webroot to be precise
[04:59] <lacita> gvj: you're back.
[04:59] <ima> mrpink57, arghh2d2, whichever one of you it was, x starts up fine.
[05:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> Anybody? Network bridge? Help?
[05:00] <transonic> hey guys..can anyone suggest some lightweight browser
[05:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> transonic: You mean you don't like Firefox? Heretic. :p
[05:00] <Quirkly> NoTownKasper: perhaps it only likes running from within it's own folder...possibly make a script to cd to that folder, and then run it?
[05:00] <cfedde> there are none.  Chrome is pretty fast.
[05:00] <Baloo1> yeah maybe play some emus and type papers wen i need too im on an sdtv
[05:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> transonic: There's Epiphany.
[05:00] <mrpink57> rich97: is the hold folder chmod 777?
[05:00] <gvj> @lacita ya i am back
[05:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> transonic: Don't know much about it, though.
[05:00] <mrpink57> whole
[05:00] <lacita> gvj: any luck
[05:00] <lacita> ?
[05:00] <NoTownKasper> Quirkly: That would be a little out of my league without a walkthrough...know of one?
[05:00] <catorceavo> why did my sound suddenly stop working!
[05:01] <transonic> Thatguyoverthere: hmm..will try it
[05:01] <meepmoop> Baloo1:I don't really know more than how to just stream media movies/music if that's what you're looking to do I would suggest Ushare
[05:01] <Quirkly> NoTownKasper: a script would be a text file, .sh, with a couple commands, cd /path/to/file and then ./filename to run it
[05:01] <Quirkly> don't know any walkthroughs offhand, but the last step after saving that file, would be to chmod +x
[05:01] <Quirkly> to make it run
[05:01] <abhijit> how to add extra places menu in 'Places'?
[05:01] <rich97> mrpink57: No a couple of the files in .git folder only have read permissions but it should still be able to copy should it not?
[05:01] <Baloo1> wats ushare
[05:01] <NoTownKasper> Hrm, worth a try, I'll give it a whirl.
[05:01] <Quirkly> then umm, yeah, just run it I guess......I'm just guessing not sure if that's the problem or not
[05:02] <ThatGuyOverThere> Does anybody know how to set up a network bridge? Come on!
[05:02] <Quirkly> it's the first thing I'd try, given what you said about the situation, that's all
[05:02] <rich97> mrpink57: Also it is able to copy if I don't use your cp command. Otherwise it gives me a permission error.
[05:02] <meepmoop> Baloo1:it's software used to stream media from your pc to your ps3
[05:02] <mrpink57> rich97: well I think you are going to need full permission to move unless you put a sudo ahead of it.  However that will give full permission to root once moved not the user.
[05:04] <vi2> ...
[05:04] <NoTownKasper> Quirkly: just to make sure I have syntax correct, (1st line) cd ~/vegastrike-0.5.0/bin/   (2nd line) ./vegastrike-32
[05:05] <Fancycakes> Hey guys, I have some TOR questions.
[05:05] <MTecknology> I have a wireless usb dongle right now - lsusb detects it but I have no idea how to use it as a wireless device; any ideas?
[05:05] <Quirkly> yeah NoTownKasper that should work, if you want, test it in a terminal window first
[05:05] <Quirkly> I find it easier to edit/change file modes via terminal anyways, but that's just me
[05:05] <Fancycakes> I found a thread (rather dated) and followed its instructions to use TOR with privoxy and Firefox.
[05:05] <vi2> ninguem falar portugues?
[05:05] <Fancycakes> But how do I know when TOR is working?
[05:06] <Baloo1> ok cool my issue is tho that my windows cut off and i cant resize them so i can manage them im on JJ
[05:06] <think43> ok, ubuntu is really awesome
[05:06] <NoTownKasper> Fancycakes: Find one of the dozen or so different "What is my IP" types of websites and check to see if your IP is being masked.
[05:06] <think43> They got the latest and configured up good
[05:06] <ima> arghh2d2, x runs
[05:07] <arghh2d2> transonic: midori, netsurf, surf
[05:07] <mrpink57> Fancycakes: I do not know what TOR is but I assume it is a process you can just type top in CLI and see all processes
[05:07] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay, does anybody know anything about Firestarter? I'm trying to use it for internet connection sharing.
[05:07] <kbrosnan> Fancycakes: http://check.torproject.org/ or https://check.torproject.org/
[05:07] <arghh2d2> ima: X runs from startx?
[05:07] <ima> yes
[05:07] <mrpink57> rich97: I just checked you need at least write permissions
[05:07] <collabra> mrpink57: TOR encrypts your internet transmission
[05:08] <Quirkly> so, is learning emacs a worthy endeavour, or asking for a headache?
[05:09] <Linux-CLI> I'm trying to install a .deb package, however it told me that I already had a package in use (because I pressed Ctrl+C on "sudo apt-get install patch"). So I gave up & just rebooted. Still getting the error when trying to install the .deb package, any ideas?
[05:09] <MrObvious> Hello. I need help with my printer. Basically it has something stuck in it's memory I think and it's stuck trying to print a document but nothing else will come out. It works fine with my Vista laptop though.
[05:09] <rich97> mrpink57: hmmm, I might give up on this one then, they'll just have to move it with the file browser.
[05:09] <mrpink57> Quirkly: at being 83mb it's too big of an install for me :)
[05:09] <MrObvious> It is a HP Deskjet 3940.
[05:09] <NoTownKasper> mrpink57: TOR is an Onion Router network, (Proxy chain) to try and browse anonymously, bypass IP blocks/country blocks and other situations where one would want to hide/mask/change their IP address. :P
[05:09] <ima> arghh2d2, I did create a symlink to libstdc++.so.6 called libstdc++.so.5, since 5 isn't in karmic. Don't know if that could have done it.
[05:10] <Quirkly> lol mrpink57 fair enough, just gotta say, it used to overwhelm me, but after reading a tutorial, I can see the power it possesses
[05:10] <mrpink57> rich97: you could also chmod 755 which gives full rights to owner but only read execute to group
[05:10] <arghh2d2> ima: then your gdm might be messed up...try loggin in as another user with the graphical login screen or while your in gui right now, check gdm settings
[05:10] <collabra> Linux-CLI: have you tried the gdebi package?
[05:10] <LuksPartition> what causes my hd buffered speed to drop low when testing via hdparm -tT then come back to around 66.7mb/s on reboot?
[05:11] <catorceavo> hello? my sound just suddenly stopped working in linux. how could they let this happen?
[05:11] <arghh2d2> ima: i'm not sure either
[05:11] <jokehead> could anyone tell me where i can find linux boxes with 24/7 tech support and hardware damage coverage plans?
[05:11] <ima> arghh2d2, hmm my user should be the only one, except for root
[05:11] <catorceavo> some update must have done it. there is no more start-up sound or i cant play music or internet video sound
[05:11] <mrpink57> jokehead: a netbook with linux installed I suppose
[05:12] <arghh2d2> ima: just check your graphical login settings utility then
[05:12] <jokehead> mrpink57, I don't want a netbook
[05:12] <arghh2d2> ima: idontknow, maybe you recently made some changes
[05:12] <mrpink57> jokehead: you can find the adds online here and there for computers bought with ubuntu installed
[05:12] <gvj> @Mrobvious  right click the printer configuration---->printer-----printer queue----then cancel thats it. ur memory is cleaned. i hope ur in ubuntu OS.
[05:12] <mrpink57> jokehead: I assume you are looking for some type of server setup
[05:13] <Baloo1> meepmoop: do you know anything about that or no
[05:13] <think43> whats the name of the gnome terminal if you want to run it from the terminal
[05:13] <jokehead> mrpink57, no just looking for a laptop
[05:13] <ardchoille> think43: gnome-terminal
[05:13] <jokehead> or desktop
[05:13] <MTecknology> very much like linkedin w/ more features
[05:13] <arash> if i want to include a specific validation in all my models (identical), what is the easiest way to do it?
[05:13] <MTecknology> I have a wireless usb dongle right now - lsusb detects it but I have no idea how to use it as a wireless device; any ideas?
[05:13] <mrpink57> jokehead: I have seen them for desktop but I think you can buy a Dell with Linux
[05:14] <think43> ardchoille, thanks
[05:14] <ardchoille> yw
[05:14] <MrObvious> gvj: Yeah I am.
[05:14] <MrObvious> gvj: I have a desktop and a laptop and the lappy is Vista and this is Ubuntu.
[05:14] <jokehead> mrpink57, where have you seen the desktop?
[05:14] <ardchoille> jokehead: have you tried system76 or zareason?
[05:14] <gvj> so do wat i told man.
[05:14] <ima> arghh2d2, maybe I don't quite know what xstart is supposed to do, I didn't get gnome up, I only got my cursor and a black background. I assumed that was supposed to happen.
[05:14] <MrObvious> gvj: I am.
[05:14] <gvj> u need to clear the printer Q
[05:15] <arghh2d2> ima: ahhhh
[05:15] <meepmoop> anyone here have any opinions on ubuntu studio I'm thinking about making a switch on another comp that I use strictly for recording
[05:15] <rich97> mrpink57: I might just remove them all together now I think about it, if they want to keep the git files they can use the file browser to move them, if they just want to install it (plugin for CakePHP) then they don't need the .git files.
[05:15] <mrpink57> jokehead: a site I frequent know as www.overclock.net has them in their add banners.  but I did confirm Dell does Ubuntu setups
[05:15] <jokehead> ardchoille, thanks no I havent, have any more names to give me?
[05:15] <ardchoille> jokehead:  http://system76.com/  or  http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php
[05:15] <arghh2d2> ima: you're in console and you typed startx and gnome didnt come up...you were supposed to take note of any error messages
[05:15] <ardchoille> jokehead:  they both specialize in Linux desktops and laptops
[05:16] <ima> arghh2d2, I wasn't able to see any error messages because it was in fullscreen mode, how do I get back to my command line? I haven't used linux for ages.
[05:16] <catorceavo> ARGH
[05:16] <catorceavo> FIX MY SOUND
[05:16] <kheera> touchpad is being recognized as a mouse and i want to change some of the touchpad features, ubuntu 9.10, asus laptop. how do I force it to load the synaptic touchpad drivers instead of the ps/2 mouse driver?
[05:17] <arghh2d2> ima: you're in a gui now? yes no?
[05:17] <mrpink57> kheera: you need to configure your xorg to use the driver
[05:17] <ima> arghh2d2, dual boot,  could get out my laptop whilst doing this though
[05:18] <jimisrvrox> having wireless problems would appreciate some help: http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[05:18] <jokehead> thanks folks
[05:18] <arghh2d2> ima: i'm confused...the troublesome ubuntu...boots up to a black screen with a command prompt ima@ubuntu$ ?
[05:18] <kheera> mrpink57: thanks... xorg.conf says nothing about the mouse. am I in the right place even?
[05:19] <arghh2d2> for example?
[05:19] <gvj> anyone going for RHCE exam....?
[05:19] <mrpink57> kheera: you need to create the area.  as far as that goes you would have to wiki it that's your best bet.  I have HAL configure all of my peripherials plus I do not use Ubuntu
[05:19] <lacita> anyone know how to format a Dell Utility partition on a drive with a gpt partition table type?
[05:19] <catorceavo> why would the mute state be saved in between restarts? dumb ubuntu
[05:19] <kheera> thanks mrpink57
[05:20] <ima> arghh2d2, I am able to get to the graphical Login screen, but whenever I put in my password I get a black screen for a few seconds then get returned to the login screen, logging in through the command prompt works fine though.
[05:20] <kheera> mrpink57: something like this probably? http://array.org/ubuntu/elantech.html
[05:20] <Izinucs> lacita: you want to get rid of the partition?
[05:21] <eduhat> is there any way i could install ubuntu 9.10 without all the extra packages? i like how everything looks and runs, just dont want all the extra stuff.
[05:21] <arghh2d2> ima: Ok, so logging in through the command prompt..then your still left at a black screen with white letters?
[05:21] <uorygl> Ello. I'm trying to set up Ubuntu to act as a router. I've created a wireless network, but computers that connect to it aren't receiving IP addresses. Under the network's IPv4 settings, I have the Method set to "Shared to other computers"; is this what I want?
[05:21] <ima> arghh2d2, yes
[05:21] <Izinucs> eduhat: search for ubuntu minimal .. after install add what you want
[05:21] <arghh2d2> ima: and then you type startx and what happens?
[05:21] <Shwack> Will CUPS ever print as well as Windows?
[05:21] <lacita> Izinucs: No, I already have it partitioned, I just need to format it to "Dell Utility" without messing up the gpt partition table.
[05:21] <eduhat> Izinucs: thanks. will it still look as beautiful as the livecd/install version?
[05:21] <Izinucs> Shwack: depends on your printer
[05:22] <Izinucs> lacita: you should be able to use gparted
[05:22] <mrpink57> kheera: similar Elantech is a different type of mouse just make sure you setup the correct one.
[05:22] <Izinucs> eduhat: I don't know .. never used it.
[05:22] <ima> arghh2d2, it initializes and I get a fullscreen x session with only my cursor.
[05:22] <Shwack> Izinucs: Thanks.  Brother MFC-7820N followed full Brother installation instructions.     dpkg -l | grep Brother returns all the correct drivers - printing is still slow as watching paint dry in water.
[05:22] <mrpink57> kheera: since I do not know can you configure HAL in Ubuntu?
[05:22] <Izinucs> eduhat: or install server then add whatever desktop manager you want
[05:22] <lacita> Izinucs: No "Dell Utility" support in gparted. fdisk can do it, but it doesn't support gpt.
[05:23] <Izinucs> Shwack: you might have done something wrong or not finished yet.. my brother mfc-7440n works fine.. with the exception of fax.. I haven't been able to get that to work yet
[05:23] <arghh2d2> ima: ok, run ls -a ~/ and look for .xinitrc
[05:24] <kheera> mrpink57: i don't know anything about hal.  i believe my laptop has the elanatech touchpad../.
[05:24] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: .xinitrc is in root
[05:24] <Shwack> Izinucs:  I dunno...  I have installed every deb package twice
[05:24] <MTecknology> mrpink57: you should only mess with ~/.xinitrc ...
[05:25] <MTecknology> mrpink57: you also should never have to mess with hal
[05:25] <ima> arghh2d2, alright, let me get my laptop out so I can do it and be on here at the same time.
[05:25] <arghh2d2> mrpink57: i need to get a virtualbox ubuntu going...its crazy... .xinitrc should be in the users home director, its like ubuntu tries to keep users away from the command line
[05:25] <snydermahler_> I'm new to Ubuntu
[05:26] <gvj> which is the best free virtual machine management software for using in ubuntu.   vmware, virtualbox, Qemu
[05:26] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: im a jerk no its not its in /etc/skel/.xinitrc
[05:26] <Izinucs> Shwack: check this link and look for Scunizi's post.. there's an attachment.. I wrote it.. :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1362294
[05:26] <ima> arghh2d2, alright, give me a few secs.
[05:27] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: unless you manually copied it over it should be in that dir
[05:27] <MTecknology> arghh2d2: it's not there by default because it's not needed by default - if you need it you can easily create it
[05:27] <arghh2d2> MTecknology: i know
[05:27] <MTecknology> arghh2d2: what's the issue then?
[05:27] <arghh2d2> MTecknology: no issue
[05:28] <eduhat> so what does everyone here use ubuntu for?
[05:29] <arghh2d2> `they use it for free
[05:29] <Izinucs> eduhat: DOH! everything
[05:29] <arghh2d2> :)
[05:29] <mrpink57> the family computer, I use Arch on my personal
[05:29] <eduhat> mrpink57: yea i have arch on my laptop. I use it for everything, i just want to try something new.
[05:29] <mrpink57> eduhat: then try Slackware
[05:30] <arghh2d2> lfs
[05:30] <eduhat> mrpink57: i need something with package management :)
[05:30] <mrpink57> I'd probably go to FreeBSD next if I moved from Arch
[05:31] <eduhat> mrpink57: i had freebsd a while ago. i didnt use it for too long so i don't really remember too much of it
[05:33] <mrpink57> I think lfs is far too much work, I would rather just make my own distro at that point.  At least that can go on a resume
[05:33] <setuid> Anyone know how to stop the console/keyboard from visibly showing the ^C when I issue it? http://code.gnu-designs.com/setuid/ctrl-c-flub.png
[05:34] <arghh2d2> i might try lfs, not with any hopes to build a usable system but to learn
[05:36] <isai> #Ubuntu-Mx
[05:36] <Izinucs> arghh2d2: you get vbox working?
[05:36] <xfact> Hello
[05:37] <ima> arghh2d2, alright.
[05:37] <arghh2d2> Izinucs: i works on my archbox.
[05:37] <xfact> I have one .rpm file, can you tell me how to convert it to .deb package and install via alien? (I have alien installed)
[05:37] <Izinucs> arghh2d2: but not on ubuntu?
[05:38] <mrpink57> i dont want you to explain the whole thing again but what is it not doing, this is the biggest damn irc channel I have seen so it scrolls a lot.
[05:38] <arghh2d2> Izinucs: i'm gonna run an ubuntu guest
[05:38] <arghh2d2> just so i know what people in here are dealing with
[05:38] <Izinucs> arghh2d2: are you having issues with installing it?
[05:38] <arghh2d2> ima:
[05:38] <arghh2d2> Izinucs: no, why?
[05:39] <Izinucs> arghh2d2: I was reading previous posts .. just looked that way.. but sounds like I was mistaken :)
[05:39] <xfact> I have one .rpm file, can anybody explain how to convert it to .deb package and install via alien? (I have alien installed)
[05:39] <rip> hello
[05:39] <ima> arghh2d2, I didn't find .xinitrc
[05:40] <arghh2d2> ima: run: echo exec gnome >> ~/.xinitrc
[05:40] <arghh2d2> then run startx
[05:40] <Izinucs> xfact: alien is used to convert the .rpm to a .deb *then* you install.. but it's not really recommended. some packages just don't convert correctly.. what's the package/program?
[05:40] <rip> is this the ubuntu help room
[05:40] <Izinucs> !ask | rip
[05:41] <ima> arghh2d2, done it
[05:41] <arghh2d2> ima: what happened?
[05:41] <rip> ok thanks I am a noob
[05:41] <xfact> Izinucs: package is ogle (a DVD player) actually, thats not the main issue, I also want to learn how to convert....
[05:41] <ima> arghh2d2, not much
[05:41] <arghh2d2> ima: are you back at a command prompt???
[05:42] <Izinucs> xfact: "alien <package name>" if I remember correctly
[05:42] <Izinucs> xfact: or "man alien" for options
[05:42] <ima> arghh2d2, I'm on the command prompt, nothing really happened when I type that in
[05:42] <arghh2d2> not much can be alot
[05:42] <arghh2d2> ima: startx?
[05:42] <arghh2d2> hit enter too
[05:42] <MTec007> i have a laptop with no ethernet ports. where do i get the windows drivers package from http? fresh install karmic
[05:42] <ima> arghh2d2, you want me to do startx now?
[05:42] <arghh2d2> yeah
[05:42] <MTec007> (for wifi)***
[05:42] <xfact> Izinucs: thank you, but many people including you says it's not recommended, so is it harmful for system?
[05:43] <rip> is there a simple package I can download to get my ubuntu to run as a proxy server? I have 2 network cards installed now.
[05:43] <ima> arghh2d2, alright, it failed now
[05:43] <Izinucs> xfact: could be
[05:43] <arghh2d2> the other command invisibly created a .xinitrc file with one line "exec gnome"
[05:43] <xfact> Izinucs: thank you :)
[05:43] <arghh2d2> ima: now you got error messages?
[05:43] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: doesnt he need to put /bin/sh at the top
[05:43] <ima> arghh2d2, yes, "exec: 1: gnome: not found"
[05:43] <arghh2d2> mrpink57: ughhh
[05:44] <arghh2d2> not sure
[05:44] <ima> arghh2d2, also got a few warnings
[05:44] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: the easier way to to just copy the default one
[05:44] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: then edit it
[05:44] <arghh2d2> ima: cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~/
[05:45] <ima> arghh2d2, /etc/skel/.xinitrc doesn't seem to exist
[05:45] <mrpink57> maybe is whereis .xinitrc might show where the default one is
[05:45] <arghh2d2> ima: ughhh
[05:46] <macosxtiger> whats the channel for lucid again?
[05:46] <Izinucs> macosxtiger: ubuntu+1
[05:46] <rww> macosxtiger: #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <arghh2d2> ima: looks like mrpink57 is gonna adopt your issue
[05:46] <macosxtiger> yeaaaa booyiie
[05:46] <ima> mrpink57, only gives me a line that says: .xinitrc:
[05:46] <ima> mrpink57, doesn't seem to have found anything
[05:47] <mrpink57> ima: try locate .xinitrc
[05:47] <MTec007> i have a laptop with no ethernet ports. where do i get the windows wireless drivers package from http? i have a fresh install of karmic
[05:47] <macosxtiger> what is the command to register my nick on this server?
[05:47] <ima> mrpink57, doesn't give me anything
[05:47] <Izinucs> mrpink57: ima you might need to sudo updatedb before using locate
[05:48] <jimisrvrox> having wireless problems would appreciate some help: http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[05:48] <MTec007> macosxtiger /msg nickserv help register
[05:48] <ima> mrpink57, /root/.xinitrc
[05:48] <mrpink57> ima: ok that tells me that you are in the root dir not your user
[05:49] <arghh2d2> ima: try this then echo !#/bin/bash > ~/.xinitrc && echo exec gnome >> ~/.xinitrc && startx
[05:49] <arghh2d2> :)
[05:50] <rip> Does any one have a link to setting up a proxy server with 2 network cards?
[05:50] <mrpink57> arghh2d2: the big issue might be that he is in root, the file should be in your user home as far as I can remember
[05:50] <arghh2d2> ima: i forgot what we were even trying to do...oh yeah, get an error message when X fails
[05:50] <zuzo> hello
[05:50] <arghh2d2> mrpink57: /root/.xinitrc works the same way
[05:50] <arghh2d2> is he logged in as root?
[05:51] <timboy> I installed ubuntu and used one of my drives as my home directory. When I installed it I chose to encrypt it. I have just put it in a portable drive enclosure and when I take it to a new ubuntu box and plug it in it opens but it appears as if nothing is on it. how can I access the data on it?
[05:51] <jasonmchristos> is there any way to remove the evolution data server without removing gnome?
[05:51] <jasonmchristos> i dont use evolution so i do not need it
[05:52] <ima> arghh2d2, that left me with a blank screen
[05:52] <MTec007> where can i download ndiswrapper for karmic?
[05:52] <arghh2d2> ima: a blank screen with an x cursor that you can move?
[05:52] <Izinucs> jasonmchristos: you might be able to do that from the rescue kernel.. choose it from the boot menu
[05:52] <timboy> how do I mount an encrypted volume so I can see the contents?
[05:52] <ima> arghh2d2, a blank screen with no cursor
[05:52] <arghh2d2> ima: and nothing happens when you click the dsktop?
[05:53] <victor`> does anyone's monitor sometims randomly blink?  it seems like an DPMI sleep state cycle on my 24" LCD.  every few months, my machine will just start doing this until i reboot.
[05:53] <Izinucs> ima: is this a gforce motherboard?
[05:53] <arghh2d2> ima: ctr-alt-F1
[05:53] <jasonmchristos> ill try thanks
[05:54] <ima> Izinucs, asus rampage II or whatever it's called
[05:54] <ima> arghh2d2, alright, I've got a couple of warnings
[05:54] <Izinucs> ima did you install with the alternate cd?
[05:54] <ima> Izinucs, yes
[05:54] <macosxtiger> i have 24 invites to join google wave would anyone like an invite?
[05:54] <rww> ubottu: ot | macosxtiger
[05:55] <Izinucs> ima: you might suffer from the same problem I have on my system.. on my system it's a conflict with the PCIe bus.. the solution for me was to put pci=nomsi in the kernel boot line in grub
[05:55] <ima> Izinucs, this has been working fine previously
[05:56] <Izinucs> ima: did you use the alternate because the live wouldn't boot?
[05:56] <Alvira> ubuntu support non-unicode fonts ?
[05:56] <ima> Izinucs, the live one booted but I couldn't select anything from the menu (enter did nothing)
[05:56] <rip> I have the main internet line setup on one nic card as a static ip and I want my other nic card to assign a total diffrent static ip. How can this be done?
[05:56] <arghh2d2> ima: think of any major changes you made before it stopped working?
[05:56] <Izinucs> ima: I'll let arghh2d2 continue then..
[05:57] <setuid> So no ideas about my ^C problem?
[05:57] <arghh2d2> Izinucs: i'm not ubuntu wizard
[05:57] <ima> arghh2d2, the symlink and running a few programs in wine are the only things I can think of right now that I haven't done previously
[05:57] <arghh2d2> i'm just trying to be helpful
[05:57] <arghh2d2> what was the symlink again?
[05:58] <Izinucs> ima: have you tried updating the system fully from the rescue kernel? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:58] <wysiwyg> irc.webchat.org
[05:58] <ima> Izinucs, let my try that
[05:58] <jimisrvrox> having wireless problems would appreciate some help: http://i.imgur.com/qNW1r.png
[05:58] <trisquel> hi
[05:59] <Izinucs> ima: after that "sudo service gdm start"
[05:59] <trisquel> How can I make rhythmbox start playing a music CD automatically when i insert the CD?
[05:59] <rip> what Synaptic package would be for setting up proxy server?
[05:59] <ima> Izinucs, ah crap, I'm booted without networking
[06:00] <Izinucs> ima: maybe sudo ifup eth0 ?
[06:00] <ima> arghh2d2, it was libstdc++.so.5, I linked libstdc++.so.6 to that
[06:01] <saganbyte> what is a good torrent app for ubuntu?
[06:01] <ima> Izinucs, alright, but I would have to unplug this one.
[06:01] <arghh2d2> ima: tried undoing that?
[06:01] <ima> arghh2d2, nope
[06:01] <Izinucs> saganbyte: it's built in .. transmission
[06:01] <collabra> saganbyte: it already has one,... transmission
[06:02] <mrb427> how can i pass a parameter to an mfile?
[06:02] <mrb427>  ex) octave mymfile.m parameter1
[06:02] <infidel> anyone here use a tssp multiplexer?
[06:02] <rip> THANKS IZINUCS
[06:02] <Izinucs> rip: sure.. what'd I do?
[06:02] <ima> arghh2d2, huh, both files seem to be missing
[06:02] <dirtynerd> When i insert a CD Ubuntu freezes and my Google fu has failed me.  Any help?
[06:04] <ima> arghh2d2, how the hell do I recover it?
[06:04] <rip> I google it. It said somthing about proxy server
[06:05] <Izinucs> rip: an unusual link.. ifup eth0 is how you bring your network card alive.. typically
[06:05] <ima> arghh2d2, ahh no wait, it's there, it just didn't come up with tab completion
[06:05] <rip> I have 2 nics installed and i need a program to make my ubuntu a proxy server
[06:05] <rip> lol
[06:05] <rahduke> ok so OPENVPN is a nightmare and overkill for what im trying to do, can anyone tell me of an easy way to share my media folders outside my network?
[06:05] <rip> mybad
[06:05] <Izinucs> rip: you want it to "share" the internet?
[06:05] <arghh2d2> ima: not sure, libfoofiles are kinda outta my league, seems to have had something to do with your runlevels
[06:05] <arghh2d2> ima: ahhh
[06:06] <arghh2d2> ima: fix it!
[06:06] <Izinucs> rip: as in .. all other machines on the LAN go through the ubuntu box?
[06:06] <rip> yes but with my own isp. so that my internet provider will not know that I am surfing.
[06:06] <rip> yes
[06:06] <ima> arghh2d2, I removed it
[06:06] <arghh2d2> get a router
[06:07] <rahduke> anyone have any ideas?
[06:07] <arghh2d2> ima: not sure you should have removed em
[06:07] <rip> i have one.
[06:07] <Izinucs> rip: well.. that's a couple of things.. first is internet connection sharing .. and the other is a service like TOR ..
[06:07] <rip> but the isp gives me the address
[06:07] <ima> arghh2d2, I had made them myself, I only removed the links
[06:07] <mvsn> hello. im wonderin if someone could help me.. i ran through so many tutorials and it just wont work for me, i tried looking through the iptables, but for some reason I cannot get an ftp server to run on ubuntu.. :(
[06:07] <arghh2d2> maybe just renaming them
[06:07] <rip> I want to give my computers the addree
[06:08] <Jack_Stone> Hi I'm new to linux, I'm using ubuntu 9.10kk, and I have a WoW related question. I dave Warcraft previously instaled in windows (in a shared partition, FAT32 I believe or so), is there a way to make it work through wine or do I have to do a fresh install? (it's 15Gb and I don't want to do it again)
[06:08] <arghh2d2> ima: okay, let er rip! get er done!
[06:08] <Izinucs> rip: you mean the isp gives you 1 address and you want to share that with the other machines in the house?
[06:08] <arghh2d2> boot that puppy!
[06:08] <ima> arghh2d2, yeah, I'm gonna see what happens
[06:08] <rip> yes. but not like a routor. but a proxy server
[06:08] <Izinucs> !proxy | rip
[06:08] <hyperstream> !wine | Jack_Stone
[06:08] <rip> my own set of gateway and dns
[06:09] <ima> arghh2d2, blahh, still does it
[06:09] <Izinucs> rip: google TOR.. that's basically an encrypted tunneling service
[06:09] <Izinucs> !ics | rip
[06:09] <arghh2d2> ima: you completely rebooted?
[06:10] <ima> arghh2d2, yes
[06:10] <arghh2d2> damn
[06:10] <rip> thank you I will google it
[06:10] <hyperstream> Jack_Stone, try asking in #winehq ...
[06:10] <rahduke> can i use SSH to share samba folders outside my network over the web to someone elsE?
[06:10] <Jack_Stone> hyperstream: oic, thx
[06:10] <ima> arghh2d2, I'm going to try running the commands Izinucs told me to, updating and upgrading. brb
[06:10] <lein> got a problem i can't figure out i've been searching the forum and online for a week and have RTFMed : when i Kdm starts it disables keyboard and mouse/synaptics. anyone got any idea what could be causing this??
[06:11] <arghh2d2> ima: good idea
[06:11] <rahduke> so its not possible?
[06:11] <xixo1983> can someone will tell
[06:12] <xixo1983> how to uninstall zend studio in ubuntu 9.04
[06:12] <arghh2d2> lein: google xorg hotplugging
[06:12] <lein> arghh2d2: k i'll give it a try
[06:12] <rip> my isp keeps blocking me from watching online movies. and I cant use a online proxy address because it slows my bandwidth down. So I heard of linux and I am going to give it a try. Thanks for being helpful
[06:13] <Izinucs> rip: good luck
[06:13] <xixo1983> hi arghh2d2
[06:13] <xixo1983> could you please help me out
[06:14] <gdb> rip: You somehow believe that changing operating systems will impact what applications your ISP blocks you from using over the Internet?
[06:15] <snydermahler_> I'm enjoying this ubuntu stuff, but man, its so over my head!\
[06:15] <xixo1983> please help me
[06:15] <saganbyte> Izinucs, collabra... thanks :)
[06:15] <hyperstream> !help | xixo1983
[06:15] <Izinucs> snydermahler_: it's all part of the learning curve :) welcome
[06:15] <collabra> saganbyte: ur welcome
[06:16] <DaveT> Hello, can someone help me with a problem with ath5k drivers and an aspire one? The card randomly works, sometimes it autodetects networks other times it looks like it's dormant. I check my user permissions and apparently I don't have access to modify the networkmanager. Is that the problem?
[06:16] <rip> no I heard that you can hook up the cable line into a linux box and then change the address on the other nic to give a computer access to the internet using ip sub default and dns. That is not from the isp but from your linux box
[06:16] <rahduke> can anyone tell me of an easy way to share my samba media folders outside my network?  I'm begining to think its not possible
[06:16] <ima> arghh2d2, didn't work
[06:17] <mvsn> is there an easy way to completely remove all FTP related apps/settings?
[06:17] <gdb> rip: I don't understand what you're trying to say.    What impact will changing your operating system have on what they're choosing to filter?
[06:17] <Izinucs> rip: even with a different DNS you're isp will still know what you're doing unless you use an encrypted tunnel to an outside proxy.. then you *might* have a chance of disguising what you're streaming
[06:17] <rip> I got it to work by putting a proxy server on my browser. but is slowed the bandwidth down.
[06:17] <xixo1983> help me some ......how to uninstall zend studio
[06:18] <xixo1983> i use the apt-get remove zend
[06:18] <xixo1983> but it didn't work
[06:18] <Izinucs> xixo1983: did you use apt-get to install it?
[06:18] <rip> I want my linux box to be that proxy I used in china.   just with full bandwidth
[06:18] <hyperstream> xixo1983, sudo apt-get remove zend
[06:19] <hyperstream> rip, doesnt work like that lol
[06:19] <rip> lol crap
[06:19] <xixo1983> i use the zend.bin file
[06:19] <gdb> rip: That won't work.  It worked before because the proxy you were using is on the other side of your ISP.  If you put a proxy server on your local machine, it's on YOUR side of your ISP and your traffic will remain blocked.
[06:19] <ima> Izinucs,  bah, it upgraded an few packages, but I still can't log in through the graphical login
[06:19] <hiexpo> busy night
[06:19] <xixo1983> during installation
[06:19] <Izinucs> ima: you might also try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and let the system replace what might be missing..
[06:19] <xixo1983> it is also not showing add/remove
[06:19] <gdb> xixo1983: Then it's not under package management and you will have to remove it by hand.
[06:20] <hyperstream> rip, its slow because its a crap proxy, you browser works like this Browser>ISP>Proxy>Site then returns the info in that order.
[06:20] <ima> Izinucs, alright, and if that fails, what is the command to make it replace it completely?
[06:20] <Izinucs> xixo1983: that's because it was a .bin file that wasn't in the repositories.. so apt-get doesn't track it..
[06:20] <rip> i see
[06:20] <prettyplmm> what's the difference between "route" and "ip route"
[06:20] <Izinucs> ima: replace what the graphical environment?
[06:20] <xixo1983> sudo apt-get --purge remove Zend
[06:20] <xixo1983> [sudo] password for mahiti:
[06:20] <xixo1983> Reading package lists... Done
[06:20] <xixo1983> Building dependency tree
[06:20] <xixo1983> Reading state information... Done
[06:20] <xixo1983> E: Couldn't find package Zend
[06:20] <FloodBot1> xixo1983: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:20] <hyperstream> lol
[06:20] <hyperstream> !paste | xixo1983
[06:20] <ima> Izinucs, ubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <prettyplmm> what's the difference between "route" and "ip route"
[06:21] <rip> so is tunnaling slow the bandwidth down
[06:21] <tyler_d> getting an error in mounting a samba share(win vista) --- my fstab line is //marla/SHARED /media/marla-pc cifs rw,mode=0777,credentials=/home/cthompson/.chris 0 0
[06:21] <tyler_d> marla is routed within /etc/hosts
[06:21] <Izinucs> ima: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. will install the entire desktop and apps
[06:21] <hyperstream> rip, the proxy has slow internet
[06:21] <rip> lol not cool
[06:21] <prettyplmm> what's the difference between "route" and "ip route"
[06:21] <gdb> xixo1983: We understand that.  Your software (in this case Zend Studio) is not being managed by the system.  You can't use the system's package management to remove it.  You will have to figure out where it is installed and remove it by hand (ie; with rm -rf).
[06:21] <ima> Izinucs, yes, but often it says  the package is already installed, so to reinstall a package I uninstall then reinstall?
[06:22] <rip> so I cant hide fromo my isp
[06:22] <gdb> ima: You can reinstall software without first removing it.
[06:22] <xixo1983> /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudio-7.0.0
[06:22] <gdb> ima: aptitude reinstall <package_name>
[06:22] <Izinucs> ima: no.. ubuntu-desktop will pull what it needs.. give it a shot and see.
[06:22] <gdb> xixo1983: Then removing it is simple.  $ sudo rm -rf /usr/local/Zend
[06:22] <ima> gdb, thank you
[06:22] <ima> Izinucs, yeah I'll try it, be back in a bit
[06:22] <gdb> ima: Sure thing.  I'm not sure if apt-get has reinstall as an option, but aptitude certainly does.
[06:23] <iceroot> xixo1983: if i am correct you can disable zend in php.ini
[06:23] <Izinucs> ima: you can also apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <prettyplmm> what's the difference between "route" and "ip route"
[06:23] <gdb> prettyplmm: In what context?
[06:23] <tyler_d> one has an "ip " in front prettyplmm
[06:23] <rip> it that was true than how do hackers hide from there isp? Use a slow proxy address
[06:23] <iceroot> prettyplmm: man route   man ip
[06:23] <hyperstream> rip,  works kinda like this Application>ISP> there is where the isp blocks the PORT its using, how ever you can use a proxy to generally bypass website filter(80) by connection to the proxy(its not black listed) then use the proxy to get the content and send it back through the chain
[06:24] <hyperstream> rip, they dont
[06:24] <hyperstream> rip they have to connect to it to use it lol
[06:24] <xixo1983>  if i am correct you can disable zend in php.ini ?
[06:24] <iceroot> xixo1983: yes
[06:24] <prettyplmm> explain more please?
[06:24] <xixo1983> then what will happend
[06:24] <iceroot> xixo1983: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[06:25] <xixo1983> i will disable
[06:25] <iceroot> xixo1983: its not being used then
[06:25] <gdb> prettyplmm: You've not given enough information to give you a complete answer.  For most intents and purposes, "route" and "ip route" mean the same thing.  Like "car" and "automobile".  What context are you referring to?
[06:25] <xixo1983> whether i should use rm -rf /usr/local/Zend
[06:26] <prettyplmm> gdb: are they all using the kernel to process? i'm new to routing
[06:26] <hyperstream> xixo1983, and remove it from PHP, or your apache server might not start.
[06:26] <hyperstream> PHP = apache/php
[06:26] <prettyplmm> do they have the same performence?
[06:26] <rip> lol I keep changing proxy address but the movies are so slow.lol But then after a day are to I get the blocked message from my isp. :(  incognito
[06:26] <xixo1983> ok
[06:27] <iceroot> xixo1983: dont use rm -rf for testing, use "mv" to rename it
[06:27] <gdb> prettyplmm: So far, all I can tell is that you're asking the difference between two things that aren't different so I can't answer your question.  Routing is handled by the kernel, yes.
[06:27] <prettyplmm> gdb: thank you for your help
[06:28] <hoxha> Hackers Hit US Congressional Web Sites; Insult President Obama
[06:29] <rip> and there isp dont get them?
[06:29] <hoxha> The cyber attack occurred just hours after Mr. Obama finished delivering his State of the Union address in Washington
[06:29] <ima> Izinucs, ahh, it reinstalled evolution mail... wtf!
[06:29] <ima> Izinucs, it's working now, thank you so much!
[06:29] <hoxha> According to messages left by hackers on some sites, a group calling itself the "Red Eye Crew" claimed responsibility for the infiltration, which left messages saying, in part, "F--- Obama."
[06:29] <Izinucs> ima: great! .. evolution is well integrated in the system.. perhaps just leave it and not use it. :)
[06:30] <Izinucs> hoxha: stop.. old news and wrong channel.. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:30] <rip> thats my wife red eye
[06:30] <rip> lol
[06:30] <rip> lol
[06:30] <FloodBot1> rip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:30] <ima> Izinucs, yeah, I suppose :)
[06:30] <hoxha> is it on here
[06:30] <ikonia> hoxha: stop now
[06:30] <Izinucs> ima: glad you're backup.. tried kubuntu yet?.. no evo..
[06:30] <hoxha> why
[06:30] <ikonia> hoxha: it's not the topic of this channel
[06:31] <ima> Izinucs, I have, it's not bad, but I just like a few things gnome has over kde
[06:31] <Izinucs> ima: like?
[06:31] <rip> night guys thanks for the wakeup call on ISP
[06:31] <hoxha> i guse u guys dont care bye bye
[06:31] <ikonia> bye
[06:32] <jguzikowski> hey guys, i have xubuntu installed but know theres a way of installing ubuntu with an apt-get or something, anyone know what that is?
[06:32] <xixo1983> ok
[06:32] <ikonia> jguzikowski: ubuntu-desktop is the package
[06:32] <ima> Izinucs, just the various interface things
[06:32] <Izinucs> jguzikowski: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.. then on the username screen on boot change "sessions"
[06:32] <jguzikowski> thanks guys
[06:33] <jguzikowski> think ill have a noticable dropoff in speed with a netbook switching from xfce to gnome?
[06:33] <Izinucs> ima: ah.. I've been on gnome for 5 years and didn't like kde 3.5.. but the latest 4.3 is "pretty" and polished..
[06:33] <Izinucs> jguzikowski: only one way to find out.
[06:33] <orange_> hi ,i am newer
[06:33] <jguzikowski> :P fair enough
[06:33] <Izinucs> that would make me an older
[06:34] <ima> Izinucs, pretty isn't really a thing I worry about, functionality and stability is more like it.
[06:34] <ima> Izinucs, has been a few years ago since I tried kubuntu though, haven't seen 4.3
[06:35] <Izinucs> ima: understandable.. I've been running it for a couple of weeks on the 64 bit version.. no issues at all so far.. I still have my gnome install waiting for me. :)
[06:35] <gdb> KDE hasn't been usable since beta 7.
[06:35] <jguzikowski> I'm switching to gnome just because the support is so much better than xfce
[06:35] <jguzikowski> or at least testing it out
[06:36] <Izinucs> ima: acutally the laptop I'm on right now is gnome 8.04
[06:36] <jasmin_1> helloo can someone help me
[06:36] <Izinucs> ima: gotta sleep.. see ya
[06:36] <ima> Izinucs, are they planning on replacing the normal gnome with gnome shell or something though? Someone said something about that, I didn't like what I saw.
[06:36] <ima> Izinucs, alright, good night and thank you for your help.
[06:36] <jguzikowski> jasmin_1, why don't you ask your question :)
[06:36] <Izinucs> ima: kinda the same pains kde went through.
[06:37] <ima> Izinucs, ahh, I see
[06:37] <jguzikowski> have a good night Izinucs
[06:39] <jasmin_1>  installed the update and stopped when the wizard come..... I must resetart and then threw me this error   http://pastebin.com/m381ece85
[06:40] <jasmin_1> sory about my bad english
[06:40] <enav> Hello
[06:40] <collabra> hello
[06:40] <enav> Hello you guys
[06:40] <enav> some 1 here know about AMD cpus?
[06:40] <cycrosism> i do
[06:40] <enav> Nice
[06:41] <enav> i got a question
[06:41] <enav> can u help me pleas?
[06:41] <GSF1200S> ive recently setup firefox to store cache data in a temporary filesystem in ram. I can see that firefox is storing to /tmp, but how can I verify that its using ram instead of disk?
[06:41] <cycrosism> i can try
[06:41] <enav> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=A790GMH/128M
[06:41] <enav> that motherboard says that support AM2, AM2+  cpus   What is that
[06:42] <cycrosism> amd dual core
[06:42] <enav> the same Mainboard can hanndle both cpu types?
[06:42] <maco> enav: certain models of AMD CPUs are AM2 or AM2+ sockets
[06:43] <jguzikowski> what other desktop environments are there, gnome, xfce, kde?
[06:43] <kinja-sheep> jguzikowski: LXDE.
[06:43] <enav> i mean  can i use my AM2 Atlhon in that motherboard?
[06:43] <kinja-sheep> jguzikowski: Openbox, Blackbox.
[06:43] <jguzikowski> oh right, blackbox and openbox
[06:43] <maco> jguzikowski: for full DEs, yeah LXDE, but other than that... there are standalone window managers like Fluxbox, Openbox, etc. Enlightenment, Xmonad, twm, dwm...
[06:44] <jguzikowski> whats puppy linux use?
[06:44] <maco> kinja-sheep: i wouldnt call those DEs.  they dont have associated sets of applications. theyre just window managers
[06:44] <maco> jguzikowski: Enlightenment 17 seems it will be a full DE when its done, while 16 and older were just window managers
[06:44] <jguzikowski> ohh really? i loved e16 now that im thinking about it
[06:45] <Broken> hello all
[06:45] <maco> jguzikowski: yeah when i tried e17 in 2007, they had a file manager and a music player and a few other things they were working on
[06:45] <jguzikowski> maco,  thats awesome..any idea when that'll be available?
[06:46] <maco> jguzikowski: e17 has been in development for 7 years right now i think. i think its also still considered alpha (because its not feature complete... those apps arent done. not because of stability...its rock solid)
[06:47] <jguzikowski> wow..alphas available i assume? i may wanna try this out
[06:47] <maco> jguzikowski: yep yep. i built it from source on debian etch in 2007, but i imagine there are debs now. there were debs in sid at the time...
[06:47] <Yggdrasil> hello, can somone tell me why my atheros card wont load in 9.10 ? i see it there under lspci ?
[06:47] <minike> Hi everyone I would like to request assistance from your webpage országotokba we find the views and give more to others as well as likely that I will be banned from getting a link in röktön http://gollszexcom.atw.hu/
[06:48] <maco> jguzikowski: https://launchpad.net/e17-repository
[06:48] <soreau> Yggdrasil: Does 'lsmod|grep ath' show anything from your terminal?
[06:49] <Yggdrasil> soreau, i think i see why know
[06:49] <Yggdrasil> but no it doesnt
[06:49] <jguzikowski> maco, thanks what i love about enlightnement is how freakin beautiful it looks right off the bat too
[06:49] <Caligan> Can anyone recommend a good place to start for figuring out how to get an Ubuntu box set up to send mail?  I've got one configured that seemed to echo the proper responses, but the webpage I have hosted on it isn't sending anything out, and the nail command I used in an attempt to test it didn't succeed.  I'm so far unfamiliar with mail servers that I'm at the floundering point.
[06:49] <maco> jguzikowski: oh bah apparently that repository's not around anymore... hrmph... maybe someone made a ppa
[06:49] <soreau> Yggdrasil: Which card do you have as reported by lspci?
[06:49] <Yggdrasil> soreau: ithought this was just an atheros card but it looks like its a ar5001x , and im about to go check if thats supported
[06:49] <jguzikowski> maco, i gotta head out now, need to reboot then probably sleep..damn classes early in the morning
[06:49] <maco> jguzikowski: https://launchpad.net/~e17-packaging/+archive/ppa has for 9.04...
[06:50] <Yggdrasil> exec -o killall firefox
[06:50] <soreau> Yggdrasil: Try 'sudo modprobe ath5k' to load the kernel module (driver) for it
[06:50] <hiexpo> hey whats the address of the pastebin serverfor here
[06:50] <Yggdrasil> k
[06:50] <Yggdrasil> soreau: tha looks pretty better
[06:50] <jguzikowski> thanks for the help, nice talkin with you, maco
[06:50] <soreau> Yggdrasil: If there is no output, that is a good sign so check 'iwconfig' for a wlan0 interface
[06:50] <jguzikowski> night
[06:50] <minike> Hi everyone I would like to request assistance from your webpage országotokba we find the views and give more to others as well as likely that I will be banned from getting a link in röktön http://gollszexcom.atw.hu/
[06:50] <maco> jguzikowski: np
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> soreau: im connecting right now
[06:51] <soreau> Yggdrasil: Cool
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> thanks, is that blacklisted ?
[06:52] <soreau> Yggdrasil: I have no idea why it isn't loading by default. It's probably blacklisted by a conflicting module, like madwifi (ath_pci) or ndiswrapper stuff (yech)
[06:52] <aporetic> hey guys, i have what's probably a dumb question here -- is it possible to get an ubuntu install minus all the silly gnome/kde cruft? basically i just want the newer packages etc.
[06:53] <maco> !minimal | aporetic
[06:53] <pwnedulongtime> aporetic, xubuntu ...gnome and kde is silly?
[06:53] <maco> aporetic: just dont choose a -desktop task when doing the install
[06:53] <maco> pwnedulongtime: i think the idea is a command line only system
[06:53] <pwnedulongtime> oh
[06:53] <aporetic> pwnedulongtime: haha, i want to use awesome as my wm but debian's version is well over a year old
[06:53] <aporetic> maco: and thank you very much for that, i'll give it a shot
[06:55] <Alexandra> Hi, is here someone who uses a Philips webcam in karmic?
[06:55] <hiexpo> setting up web board to use for pastebin and in the text box it asks for source code ?
[06:56] <Alexandra> I've the trouble that the pwc module isn't usable
[06:56] <Yggdrasi1> hey im back
[06:56] <Yggdrasi1> soreau: that works great thanks.
[06:56] <Yggdrasi1> is that blacklisted .. module ?
[06:56] <Alexandra> Is there anyone who is able to modprobe the pwc module in karmic?
[06:57] <mtx_init> is it available?
[06:57] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, videodev               36736  2 pwc,uvcvideo
[06:57] <soreau> Yggdrasil: (in case you didn't get this message) I have no idea why it isn't loading by default. It's probably blacklisted by a conflicting module, like madwifi (ath_pci) or ndiswrapper stuff (yech)
[06:57] <Alexandra> pwnedulongtime: damn it, and you're using karmic?
[06:58] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, yes
[06:58] <Alexandra> pwnedulongtime: Did you do any special about it
[06:58] <Yggdrasi1> soreau: yea thanks i'll start by just making a .sh until i can get abtter handle on it. tired here late.
[06:58] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, lsmod | grep pwc
[06:58] <pwnedulongtime> :)
[06:58] <Alexandra> Yep, I did that already, but nothing appears
[06:59] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, what happens when you do sudo modprobe pwc ?
[06:59] <indus> hi
[06:59] <Alexandra> FATAL: Module pwc not found.
[06:59] <Alexandra> uname -r
[06:59] <Alexandra> 2.6.31-17-generic
[06:59] <jasmin_1> how to delit ubuntu then again instal ubuntu......i cant fix my problem
[06:59] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, you may need to install backport modules
[07:00] <jasmin_1> delete*
[07:00] <Alexandra> Ah, ok
[07:00] <indus> jasmin_1, you need to format the partition
[07:00] <indus> jasmin_1, cannot just 'delete' it
[07:00] <jasmin_1> but grub??? i have and windows
[07:00] <Alexandra> pwnedulongtime: thanks, I never did that. I'll give it a try. Thnaks!
[07:00] <indus> jasmin_1, how did you install ubuntu?
[07:00] <becker_11> is there a way to add a twitter user to my feed in identica??
[07:00] <indus> jasmin_1, why do you want to delete it?
[07:00] <jasmin_1> i know how to instal and delite pattrition
[07:00] <jasmin_1> i have this error http://pastebin.com/m381ece85
[07:01] <almoxarife> I want to know which apps are opening the tcp/udp ports I see open, someone tell me the command for that request?
[07:01] <jasmin_1> i must restart when i was updating sistem
[07:01] <jpalmer> almoxarife: netstat
[07:01] <jasmin_1> my system was freez
[07:01] <jasmin_1> :S
[07:02] <jasmin_1> my comp is broken 4 days
[07:02] <indus> jasmin_1,did you install from wubi?i mean from inside windows?
[07:02] <jasmin_1> no
[07:02] <indus> jasmin_1, manual partitioning?
[07:02] <indus> jasmin_1, did the install finish properly?
[07:02] <jasmin_1> no automatic...
[07:02] <Yggdrasi1> dam the editing network settings is buggy as all hell.
[07:02] <jasmin_1> i m install that and everithing
[07:02] <jasmin_1> was ok
[07:02] <jasmin_1> but i dont instal update correctly
[07:03] <indus> jasmin_1, how many hard disks do you have
[07:03] <jasmin_1> 1
[07:03] <indus> jasmin_1, what update?
[07:03] <jasmin_1> form internet update ubuntu.....automatic update
[07:03] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, actually, you probably just need to plug the camera in while booting
[07:04] <jasmin_1> i download all.....but in one moment the some wizard com
[07:04] <jasmin_1> and my PC are freez
[07:04] <jasmin_1> about 1 h
[07:04] <Alexandra> pwnedulongtime: Did that already, no success
[07:04] <indus> jasmin_1, yes wait 2 min
[07:04] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, weird
[07:04] <indus> jasmin_1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/358654
[07:04] <indus> jasmin_1, tell me which version of ubuntu is this
[07:04] <mehheh> Hi i need reinstall just the bootloader to my hdd from ubuntu live cd mode. i cant get into my computer atm
[07:04] <jasmin_1> 9.10
[07:05] <Alexandra> pwnedulongtime: Should I find the webcam on /dev/video0?
[07:05] <mtx_init> mehheh: checkout the grubdisk, maybe it can help.  also what version of ubuntu?
[07:05] <indus> jasmin_1, can you go into recovery mode and update
[07:06] <jasmin_1> i dont know how to make that
[07:06] <jasmin_1> do that
[07:06] <mehheh> mtx_init: what is grub disk ??????   ubuntu 9.10
[07:06] <indus> jasmin_1,ok now what do you see in front?
[07:06] <pwnedulongtime> Alexandra, yeah...mine is
[07:06] <indus> jasmin_1, you have login?
[07:06] <petsounds> mehheh, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[07:06] <jasmin_1> i have options on grub loader
[07:07] <indus> jasmin_1, so it wont boot ?
[07:07] <mtx_init> mehheh: if your grub is blown, your best bet is to do Grub Recovery via the Live CD
[07:07] <jasmin_1> two firist was ubuntu whitch dont want to start
[07:07] <indus> jasmin_1, now you in windows?
[07:07] <jasmin_1> just show me that error
[07:07] <indus> how you type here
[07:07] <jasmin_1> then come two other ubuntu
[07:07] <gigasoft> is there any viruses for ubuntu?
[07:07] <mehheh> thanks petsounds
[07:07] <indus> which ubuntu version does not boot
[07:07] <mkquist> mkquist !pastebin
[07:07] <mehheh> mtx_init: how
[07:07] <jasmin_1> that was before update i think
[07:07] <mkquist> oops
[07:07] <mtx_init> gigasoft: none as of now, but that doesnt mean their cant be
[07:08] <gigasoft> do i need an antivirus protection?
[07:08] <mtx_init> mehheh: look at petsounds last comment, he gave a link
[07:08] <mtx_init> gigasoft: nope
[07:08] <mtx_init> gigasoft: just be a smart user and you should be fine
[07:08] <indus> gigasoft, just download avast linux so you dont infect other windows machines
[07:08] <indus> gigasoft, trust me, i have infected 100 machines because i didnt know i had a windows virus
[07:08] <gigasoft> ok, thanks :)
[07:08] <mehheh> mtx_init: thanks already on that
[07:09] <MTec007> ndiswrapper -l says ssb is alternate driver but its blacklisted. says bcmwl5 is the driver and hardware is present. ubuntu network mgr says no network devices available. blacklisted ssb bcm43xx b43legacy. am i missing something, something i forgot to do?
[07:09] <kinja-sheep> indus: No. Infect them! Infect them all you can! It is not your fault for their Windows silliness. :)
[07:10] <jaysern> maybe a dumb question, by why does my python script fail to continue executing after I logout from SSH even with I push it into background with & ?
[07:10] <mtx_init> There is absolutely nothing stopping Linux from being infected with a virus.  Its a common misconception.
[07:10] <indus> kinja-sheep, no i wont :)
[07:10] <mtx_init> jaysern: because the python script is a fork of your shell
[07:11] <indus> jasmin_1, hello
[07:11] <MTec007> jaysern not sure but some times using nohup yourcommandhere & will let it continue to run
[07:11] <indus> jasmin_1, you try follow that bug report, should help you
[07:11] <jaysern> so my SSH session forks .. another shell that runs my python script?
[07:11] <jasmin_1> ok
[07:11] <kinja-sheep> jaysern: Consider using screen. :)
[07:12] <jasmin_1> thnx i will try sori about my bad english
[07:12] <jasmin_1> :S
[07:12] <GSF1200S> is there ANY way to tell if /tmp is actually a temporary filesystem in RAM, or is that what /tmp is anyway? I cant hdparm because /tmp is a directory, so how do I find out?
[07:12] <jaysern> hmm.. but using screen, that's a work-around ;) avoiding the problem
[07:12] <jaysern> surely people have written background scripts in .py before
[07:13] <haffe> I am not that familiar with it, but don't you need to run it with bg ?
[07:13] <mtx_init> jaysern: when you ssh into another computer, it is a fork of the sshd daemon, which execs a shell in your name.  When you log out abruptly your child process is left as a zombie and picked up by the ancestor of your parent, which then exit's you or kills your process.
[07:13] <ociugi> i can't print my document! the system keep asking me for the username and password.
[07:14] <MTec007> jaysern: Try using:: nohup yourcommandhere &
[07:14] <mtx_init> ociugi: is it a network printer?
 yes
[07:15] <ociugi> i think i configure it correctly
[07:15] <c_nick> how to get the development headers for wine
[07:15] <jaysern> MTec007: hmm, never used nohup before - alright i will try it
[07:15] <Rowan> Does anyone have experience installing on a netbook from a flash drive, when the netbook doesn't seem to natively have BIOS support for boot from flash drive?
[07:15] <MTec007> ill post a link if you'd like;)
[07:15] <Rowan> UNetbootin keeps giving me an error and throwing me into terminal mode.
[07:15] <Rowan> And I don't know how to install from there.
[07:15] <ociugi> but when i print somthing the authentication windows pop up
[07:16] <mtx_init> ociugi: im sorry im not familiar with network printing.
[07:16] <MTec007> Rowan: you should see an option to print as a guest?
[07:17] <c_nick> wine development headers for Karmic Kaola
[07:17] <MTec007> ociugi: you should see an option to print as a guest?
[07:18] <MTec007> Rowan: sorry
[07:18] <Rowan> Was gonna say, that's not my question.
[07:18] <Rowan> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my brand new Acer Aspire One.
[07:19] <MTec007> Rowan yeah, my screen scrolled as i was reading, threw me off a bit :)
[07:19] <Rowan> And I can't manage it because I can't seem to get boot from flash drive working.
[07:19] <Rowan> Don't suppose you're able to help with that too, eh?
[07:19] <Rowan> :)
[07:20] <mtx_init> if your computer cannot boot from a usb flash drive, then it does not have the internal instructions to bootstrap to that device.  You will likely have to use a 3rd item like a cd boot loader or a hard drive and chain it to the usb drive
[07:20] <MTec007> Rowan hit F12 when your BIOS screen pops up?
[07:21] <bill_> Do different distros have different kernels, or do they all use the same one?
[07:21] <jj3124> When I try to install a gnome theme it tells me I don't have the right permissions to install the theme..anyone can explain why?
[07:21] <MTec007> Rowan should be able to select USB as a boot device from there
[07:21] <Rowan> Once I get the bios screen up, then what?
[07:22] <Rowan> It doesn't give me an option to boot from a specific one after exiting bios.
[07:22] <indus> Rowan, go into special boot options
[07:22] <O__o> hello
[07:22] <indus> Rowan, check the bios post screen it will show
[07:22] <Rowan> Special boot options doesn't seem to exist on this computer.
[07:22] <Rowan> Bios post screen?
[07:23] <indus> Rowan, the first bios screen which you see
[07:23] <Xeddy> Hey all, what's the *proper* syntax for removing a hidden folder, given that I'm in parent folder?
[07:23] <jj3124> Insufficient permissions to install the theme in: /home/james/.themes anyone know why this ocmes up everytime I try to install a gnome theme?
[07:23] <indus> Rowan, or ,,,, enter bios and check under hard disks removable
[07:23] <mehheh> petsounds: mtx_init hi how do i edit grub info for my system. here is my info and teh grub file.           i am kind of lot on one point in the tutoral you gave  root@ubuntu:/# nano /etc/default/grub       do i need to crreate another bootloader someware else how i cant work it out
[07:23] <Rowan> I have UNetbootin writing a new ISO to flash drive, waiting for that to finish.
[07:23] <indus> Rowan, if you dont see these, then your bios doesnt support the boot from bios option
[07:24] <jaysern> MTec007: hmm .. looks like it's working :)
[07:24] <Rowan> The thing is that running unetbootin before has thrown me into a terminal and I don't know what to do from there.
[07:24] <MTec007> jaysern good to hear, dont loose that lol
[07:24] <Rowan> (ash, it says.)
[07:24] <jj3124> can anyone help me?
[07:24] <pokesomi> I was hoping someone could help me with something.
[07:24] <MTec007> Rowan did you have the usb stick in when you rebooted your computer and hit F12?
[07:24] <kelvinella> hi
[07:24] <jaysern> it appears to write a file called nohup.out on my ~
[07:24] <mehheh> petsounds: mtx_init hi how do i edit grub info for my system. here is my info and teh grub file.  http://pastebin.com/d1ad45007         i am kind of lot on one point in the tutoral you gave   here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover    do i need to crreate another bootloader someware else how i cant work it out
[07:24] <Xeddy> jj3124: Check the permissions of /home/james/,themes
[07:25] <indus> Rowan,how did you boot with unetbootin if bios doesnt boot from usb
[07:25] <indus> Rowan, that means it has
[07:25] <pokesomi> i have an hp mini 311-1025NR and I am not sure which broadcom wireless i have.
[07:25] <kelvinella> how to register in freenode?
[07:25] <mkquist_> Rowan: acc to google it does indeed... boot from usb, maybe your install usb is funked?
[07:25] <MTec007> jaysern yeah it will do that but its a log
[07:25] <jaysern> my .py happens to write a lot of stdout, which gets saved in nohup.out
[07:25] <Xeddy> jj3124: You can check that by typing ls -l .themes a terminal in your home folder
[07:25] <kelvinella> i cant join any channel except #ubuntu
[07:25] <jaysern> will it keep growing and growing?
[07:25] <mtx_init> kelvinella: ask in #freenode, they know best
[07:25] <MTec007> jaysern im not exactly sure
[07:26] <jaysern> ok, that's cool. I'll man nohup
[07:26] <jj3124> Xeddy,  ok i did that, not sure what im lookin at though
[07:26] <mtx_init> mehheh: im not really sure, sorry
[07:26] <Xeddy> kelvinella: /ns register YOURPASSWORD YOUREMAIL
[07:26] <Xeddy> jj3124: Okay, just type this command chmod +rw .themes
[07:26] <basty> Good Day
[07:26] <mkquist> kelvinella: then - /msg nickserv identify (password) - after you set it up with freenode...
[07:27] <jj3124> 'Operation not permitted
[07:27] <Xeddy> jj3124: Do it as root then... sudo chmod +rw .themes
[07:27] <petsounds> mehheh, the last time i reinstall grub i don't change anything.
[07:27] <jj3124> okay nothing popped up
[07:27] <basty> I just installed an ubuntu 9.10 on a Dell PowerEdge R410 - Installation done without any problems. After the reboot, it seems that grub cant find the root dir. So it is not booting - i dont even see the boot screen. It just ends with the recovery shell. Does anyone know, how to solve that Problem ?
[07:28] <Xeddy> jj3124: it didn't ask you for the password?
[07:28] <jj3124> Xeddy, no just gave me a new line of terminal
[07:28] <mehheh> petsounds:  so what do i do i save teh file as is adn then what
[07:28] <Xeddy> jj3124: is it a prompt like > or is it just a blank line?
[07:28] <mehheh> petsounds: just the tutoral is confusing me. i dont get it
[07:28] <Xeddy> jj3124: cause if its just a blank line then you'll need to type your password there
[07:28] <jj3124> james@james-laptop:~$
[07:28] <jj3124> shows
[07:29] <Xeddy> jj3124: Okay then type:  su
[07:29] <jj3124> authentication failure o_O
[07:29] <Xeddy> O.o
[07:29] <jj3124> after i typed in my password
[07:29] <Xeddy> Wrong password?
[07:29] <MTec007> ndiswrapper -l says ssb is alternate driver but its blacklisted. says bcmwl5 is the driver and hardware is present. ubuntu network mgr says no network devices available. blacklisted ssb bcm43xx b43legacy. am i missing something, something i forgot to do?
[07:29] <Rowan> Sorry got called away
[07:29] <Rowan> I did have the USB stick in.
[07:29] <hyperstream> jj3124, its the wrong password.
[07:30] <Rowan> Maybe it was messed up, hopefully the new one will work better?
[07:30] <jj3124> not wrong password..i just installed ubuntu over my xubuntu and just logged out to change session, think that has an effect on it?
[07:30] <hyperstream> !password | jj3124
[07:30] <jj3124> !sudo
[07:30] <Rowan> I remember it being a whole hell of a lot easier to install Ubuntu when I was installing it on my desktop tower when I was little.
[07:31] <Rowan> Little meaning 13.
[07:31] <hyperstream> Rowan, its even easier now :)
[07:31] <petsounds> mehheh, ok ill try to help. pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[07:31] <IdleOne> Rowan: how old are you now?
[07:31] <jj3124> im gonna try a reboot
[07:31] <jj3124> very odd
[07:32] <Rowan> 20 :P
[07:32] <Rowan> hyperstream: I'm not having any luck now though.
[07:32] <sjanssen> on my old system I used nvidia's proprietary drivers, but now I'm using the same hard drive in a new system with Intel graphics.  What's the command I can run to un-do the nvidia configuration?
[07:32] <hyperstream> Rowan, whats the issue?
[07:32] <Rowan> Netbook is being a PITA with trying to install.
[07:32] <Rowan> hyperstream: The first ISO I used with UNetbootin threw me into a terminal mode (ash) and I couldn't get anywhere from there.
[07:32] <Xeddy> jj3124: Just FYI it's not such a good idea to install one OS on top of the other or like reinstall the OS.. it's always a better option to just backup your personal data and format/delete the partitions.
[07:33] <hyperstream> Rowan, whats wrong with the normal live cd ?
[07:33] <Rowan> Um, I haven't got a CD drive that's what.
[07:33] <MTec007> hyperstream: netbook
[07:33] <hyperstream> Rowan, man a usb installer?
[07:33] <Josh90> Hey all
[07:33] <hyperstream> make*
[07:33] <Rowan> hyperstream: Um, I don't know that much about this stuff, honestly.
[07:33] <MTec007> hyperstream: hes having issues booting from usb
[07:33] <hyperstream> !hello | Josh90
[07:34] <tomatoes7> what is lifere?
[07:34] <tomatoes7> life-re
[07:34] <Rowan> I'm trying to install Ubuntu because Win7Starter is crippleware and nearly useless, and I don't want to give it my money to make it not useless.
[07:34] <tomatoes7> something like that
[07:34] <mehheh> petsounds: i have finished teh tutoral it seemed to work i now am going to try booting my hdd
[07:34] <mehheh> petsounds: thanks for help
[07:34] <Rowan> I can't seem to get it to boot into the installer from USB.  No matter what  ido.
[07:34] <Rowan> I do rather.
[07:34] <petsounds> mehheh, awesome :)
[07:35] <hyperstream> !usb | Rowan
[07:35] <hyperstream> Rowan, ahh
[07:35] <Rowan> New ISO is only at 76% right now downloading, so I have a bit of time before I get to try again, but with that happening, I've been getting frustrated.
[07:35] <hyperstream> Rowan, no bios support?
[07:35] <Josh90> lot's of work
[07:35] <Rowan> there must be /some/ bios support.  unetbootin /ran/.
[07:35] <hyperstream> Rowan, does your bios support booting from a USB device?
[07:35] <Rowan> hyperstream: if those had helped, I wouldn't be here.
[07:35] <Rowan> I'm not /sure/.
[07:35] <Josh90> Sorry
[07:35] <MTec007> Rowan: the only thing i can come up with is this, and i know its not helping you much: "Reboot your Aspire One with the USB stick in one of its USB sockets. When you see the BIOS screen, hit F12 to select the USB stick as the boot device. This will cause the Aspire One to boot the Debian installer from the USB stick."
[07:36] <hyperstream> Rowan, hard to mind read if your've seen those sites, sorry.
[07:36] <Rowan> MTec007: That general principle should help, I think.
[07:36] <jj3124> Xeddy, got that su working now
[07:36]  * Rowan is not totally incompetent when it comes to computers, but prefers to follow directions that work, not ones that don't.
[07:36] <MTec007> as long as you have a good burn
[07:36] <hyperstream> Rowan, what kinda of netbook exactly
[07:36] <jj3124> Xeddy, where were we :)
[07:36] <Xeddy> jj3124: Great, now enter: chomd +rw .themes
[07:36] <Rowan> Acer Aspire one, n450 processor, 1gb ram, 160gb hd.
[07:37] <Xeddy> jj3124: ofc, make sure you're in the /home/james folder first...
[07:37] <MTec007> Rowan: i got that from this website: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#Install
[07:37] <Rowan> Brand new, just got it today.
[07:37] <Josh90> I am having trouble getting root asscess
[07:37] <jj3124> Xeddy, k, did that
[07:38] <Xeddy> !password | Josh90
[07:38] <Xeddy> jj3124: That should do the trick, now try installing the theme
[07:38] <Rowan> Right.
[07:38] <jj3124> Xeddy, sigh..still saying the same insufficient permissions
[07:39] <Rowan> I'm waiting for the ISO to download and burn now.  And then I'm going to go grab my macbook so that I can stay on IRC while I do this.
[07:39] <Rowan> also, would removing the wireless adapter for my mouse have any effect?
[07:39] <hyperstream> Rowan, does it have some kind of model number?
[07:39] <jj3124> Xeddy, if I browse over to where .themes is theres a big lock on it
[07:39] <Josh90> No trying to put something in the file system and it says i do not have permission. Even tho i have the administrator
[07:39] <MTec007> Rowan couldnt hurt to remove it
[07:39] <hyperstream> !sudo | Josh90
[07:40] <Xeddy> jj3124: it still probably has the old permissions from your previous install... I'd recommend googling for how to reset folder permissions or something like that
[07:40] <jj3124> Xeddy, okay, t hanks for all your help
[07:40] <Xeddy> jj3124: Np, good luck with the googling :)
[07:40] <Rowan> hyperstream, I'm not actually sure.
[07:40] <Josh90> hyperstream. Thanks.
[07:40] <Josh90> Still learning
[07:40] <Rowan> the model number is letters and numbers that don't stick well in my head.
[07:40] <hyperstream> Rowan, on the bottom i think (on a sticker perhaps)
[07:41] <jj3124> Think I might just do a compeltely fresh intstall of ubuntu on the hard drive
[07:41] <Rowan> Right, k.  (I'm on my netbook right now, which isn't making any of this easier, mind you.)
[07:41] <hyperstream> Rowan, have you seen this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne110L <-- im guessing you have
[07:41] <jaysern> thanks again for the nohup tip!
[07:41] <MTec007> jaysern NP
[07:41] <indus> Xeddy, any idea how i can increase sudo timeout
[07:42] <mrb427>  hmm im having a problem calling an octave function from a unix shell script
[07:42] <mrb427>  could anyone please look at the line in here that calls octave and see if you have any advice to offer? http://codepad.org/BfHZ1ibT
[07:42] <mrb427>  its under the comment "generate stats from octave"
[07:43] <Rowan> hyperstream: I have, though I'm trying to install a newer version than that.
[07:43] <Xeddy> indus: sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[07:44] <Xeddy> indus: Use your arrow keys and look for   passwd_timeout    and just change the value :)
[07:44] <mtx_init> owwwwwwwwwww, since when do you touch the sudoers file.
[07:44] <Rowan> It's a little too late for me to install it tonight since I've been having trouble with it, I think.
[07:44] <mtx_init> visudo people
[07:44] <indus> Xeddy, thanks, does it accept 'infinity' ?:))
[07:45] <indus> mtx_init, Xeddy yes i believe sudo wont work, visudo also seems not to work in ubuntu
[07:45] <Xeddy> indus: I'm not sure... btw, I think it's better you use visudo
[07:45] <indus> !visudo
[07:45] <mtx_init> sudoers can become corrupt if you dont use visudo
[07:45] <mtx_init> it works fine on 9.10 for me
[07:45] <mtx_init> :q
[07:46] <Rowan> alright, I've removed the mouse thingy.
[07:46] <mtx_init> you just need to call it with sudo
[07:46] <indus> !info visudo
[07:46] <indus> nvm
[07:46] <Rowan> 91%
[07:46] <gdb> visudo is part of sudo
[07:46] <c_nick> !info wineheaders
[07:47] <mtx_init> it should be standard in /usr/sbin/
[07:47] <indus> hi
[07:47] <indus> what should the xorg file say for the ati open drivers, ?ati or radeon
[07:49] <mrb427>  hmm im having a problem calling an octave function from a unix shell script
[07:49] <mrb427>  could anyone please look at the line in here that calls octave and see if you have any advice to offer? http://codepad.org/BfHZ1ibT
[07:49] <mrb427>  its under the comment "generate stats from octave"
[07:49] <grace__> cant open firefox. why?
[07:49] <riveraj> does anyone have a solution to limit skype bandwidth using ubuntu server via iptables, tc or any?
[07:49] <mtx_init> is it already running  ps -aux | grep firefox
[07:49] <Josh90> sudo visudo
[07:50] <indus> can anyone tell me what the xorg driver name for free ATI driver should say
[07:50] <grace__> ping
[07:50] <mtx_init> "get a Nvida Card"
[07:50] <mtx_init> "/s"
[07:50] <haffe> indus: radeon-hd ?
[07:51] <haffe> radeonhd
[07:52] <indus> haffe, no its either ati or radeon
[07:52] <indus> i tried radeon but monitor goes to sleep
[07:52] <indus> nvm
[07:52] <Rowan> UNetbootin is still just downloading files.  If it doesn't work this time, I'm just going to give up and wait for another day, I think.
[07:54] <Geekpirat> Hey guys. I made a litte update script via bin/bash. It keeps me asking "do you want to install this and that [y/n]". How can I disable that to get rid of the user interaktion
[07:56] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: pastebinning the script might help
[07:56] <ardchoille> !paste
[07:56] <Rowan> alright, reboot and install time.
[07:56] <Geekpirat> thank you
[07:56] <Geekpirat> will try that
[07:58] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: But, if your script is calling some apt-get function, you may not want to disable that as it might be the system keeping your packages managed properly
[07:59] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: I only used some apt-get install, update and upgrade functions
[08:00] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: I wonder how this could be bad...as I will answer them with "yes" anyways...
[08:00] <ardchoille> geekbuntu: right, and I'll bet the user interaction is apt-getdoing its job
[08:01] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: why not use a bash alias instead of a script?
[08:01] <mrb427> can anyone help me fix this line of script? for k in $(ls *.cropped.png); do octave -q --eval 'gen_pers_stats("$k")'; done
[08:02] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: this is what I use:    alias updateall='aptud && aptug && echo "Update complete"'
[08:02] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: Because I used different stuff in the script. Downloading Opera from the website via wget and in the future it should configure the DNS entries (uning opendns) and stuff like that
[08:02] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: Ah, nice
[08:03] <Myrtti> Geekpirat: the most disasterous scripts seen on this channel have "assumed yes"
[08:03] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: it's not good to allow a script to assume yes, better to watch things
[08:03] <Akos> good morning
[08:03] <ardchoille> That's why I use a bash alias and not a script
[08:04] <JumboJellyfish> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paolo#
[08:04] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: I understand it is a bit dangerous. But I will try the script first in a VM many times before using it.
[08:05] <ardchoille> mrb427: why not:  for k in *.cropped.png;   ?
[08:05] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: Even if the script makes damages its not THAT problematic. because its a script only run once after a clean reinstall of ubuntu.
[08:06] <ardchoille> geekbuntu: That'sthe same thing I heard from the developer of Automatix
[08:06] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: It should only do the stuff I will do anyway on my laptop autonaticly
[08:06] <ardchoille> Geekpirat: Ok, it's your system
[08:07] <ardchoille> mrb427: you don't need the "ls" bit because the loop will loop through each file ending in .cropped.png anyway
[08:07] <Geekpirat> ardchoille: In fact, I ruin my system nearly once a month ^^ so, why not ruin it twice...
[08:08] <mrb427> ardchoille: yeah, but then i still have the problem that k is in double quotes at the end of the line, so it puts in the char k and not the variable k
[08:08] <ardchoille> mrb427: use $k to specify the variable k
[08:08] <ardchoille> "k" will yield a "k"
[08:09] <ardchoille> mrb427: example:  for k in *.cropped.png; do echo $k; done
[08:09] <mrb427> ardchoille: i still seem to have the same problem : /
[08:11] <mrb427> ardchoille: yeah but the problem is that the $k is in double quotes in my script
[08:11] <mrb427> ardchoille: http://codepad.org/pom53JRM
[08:12] <tomatoes7> i ran "make" on ffmpeg and its been spitting out text for 15 minutes...what the muck
[08:12] <tico> hello, I install mac osx on my pc i am running ubuntu karmic how to change grub2 to be able to boot macOSx partition?
[08:12] <tomatoes7> it must be stuck in an infinite loop
[08:12] <ardchoille> mrb427: example:  for k in *.cropped.png; do echo "$k"; done
[08:13] <tomatoes7> can you run osx on a pc?
[08:13] <ardchoille> mrb427: your problem is this: $(ls *.cropped.png)
[08:13] <tico> tomatoes7 yes
[08:13] <ardchoille> mrb427: use for k in *.cropped.png;   instead
[08:13] <mrb427> ardchoille: yeah i tried changing it to for k in *.cropped.png and i still get the same error
[08:13] <tico> i can explain how to
[08:13] <tomatoes7> cool...now i don't have to buy a mac
[08:13] <ttyX> tomatoes7: yes you can
[08:14] <tico> i am getting crazy with grub2
[08:14] <ardchoille> tomatoes7: that is illegal and so not allowed here as conmversation
[08:14] <daemonvs> hello, installing ubuntu it asks me if i want to set up LVM should i
[08:14] <tomatoes7> what...installing ffmpeg?
[08:14] <ardchoille> [00:13] <tomatoes7> can you run osx on a pc?
[08:15] <tomatoes7> tell tico
[08:15] <ardchoille> mrb427: I'm telling you the for k in *.cropped.png is not the problem in your code, the problem lies elsewhere
[08:15] <tomatoes7> i'm not trying to put osx on a pc
[08:15] <ardchoille> mrb427: are you sure this bit works?  octave -q --eval 'gen_pers_stats("$k")'
[08:16] <daemonvs> should i set up LVM during the installation of ubuntu?
[08:16] <nsgn> howdy. i need to trigger a script from evolution's filter rules. the "run program" filter action being set to a script with execute permissions does nothing. what gives?
[08:16] <mrb427> ardchoille: it works when i run it just in the command line, with a string in stead of $k
[08:16] <ardchoille> mrb427: That means nothing, many times a command line code will not successfully execute in a script
[08:17] <Kins98> Who loves me?
[08:17] <Kins98> Mummy makes me very very horny
[08:17] <daemonvs> should i set up LVM during the installation of ubuntu?
[08:17] <ardchoille> !away > SpyderSphere|AFK
[08:17] <Myrtti> Kins98: stop it?
[08:17] <Kins98> Ok
[08:18] <Kins98> Im a homo
[08:18] <ardchoille> thank you Myrtti
[08:20] <daemonvs> anyone?
[08:20] <mtx_init> thats the easiest way
[08:21] <mrb427> ardchoille: solved the problem! used  "gen_per_stats(\"$k\")" instead of 'gen_pers_stats("$k")'
[08:21] <dirtynerd> Whole system freezes when i try to read a CD can anyone help
[08:21] <home> Anybody in here know anything about fglrx and the X1900 radeon card
[08:21] <ardchoille> mrb427: Yay! Nice job :)
[08:22] <ziroday> !anyone > home
[08:22] <dirtynerd> Whole system freezes when i try to read a CD can anyone help
[08:22] <home> I'
[08:22] <ardchoille> mrb427: Do you realize what those back slashes mean?
[08:23] <home> I'm using a fresh install of 8.04 on AMD64.  I just installed fglrx and after a few minutes of being on, my screen shuts off.  How do I fix this?
[08:23] <mrb427> ardchoille: lol no
[08:24] <mrb427> ardchoille: just that its the char " ?
[08:24] <ardchoille> mrb427: The "\" are escaping the double quotes, which means the double quotes were causing problems on their own
[08:25] <ardchoille> mrb427: same thing with:  ls /path/folder\ with\ spaces\ in
[08:25] <ziroday> home: What's the output of lspci | grep VGA ?
[08:25] <mrb427> ardchoille: yeah thats what i figured, those damn double quotes
[08:25] <mrb427> ardchoille: ohhh i see
[08:25] <ardchoille> the "\" are escaping the spaces
[08:25] <dirtynerd> Whole system freezes when i try to read a CD can anyone help
[08:25] <mrb427> ardchoille: well thanks for your help
[08:25] <ardchoille> mrb427: Glad you got it sorted
[08:26] <ardchoille> dirtynerd: Any CD? or just that one?
[08:26] <dirtynerd> any cd
[08:26] <ardchoille> ouch
[08:27] <home> ziroday, it shows my card
[08:27] <ziroday> home: yes, well can you paste the output here please
[08:27] <dirtynerd> acutly just dvds
[08:27] <dirtynerd> cd are fine
[08:28] <home> ziroday, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] (Primary)
[08:29] <ziroday> home: right, and can you pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[08:29] <timClicks> is there any way to be able to determine which ip addresses I need to give to a VM's /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:29] <||arifaX> whats the + in RUN+ in an udev rule?
[08:29] <timClicks> the static ip address settings in network manager don't have broadcast etc
[08:30] <home> ziroday, im at a virtual console on my linux computer so it doesn't crash, and using xchat with windows..what are you looking for?
[08:30] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a way to stop xchat from loading all my favourite channels on startup without removing them from favourites? If not does irssi have such an option?
[08:30] <ziroday> home: you can do sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log it will return a url of the pastebin file
[08:31] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: #xchat :)
[08:31] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: isn't there an "autoconnect" option for them? tried rightclicking on them?
[08:31] <home> ziroday, geez, this file is huge.  how do I get out of the virtual console?
[08:31] <ziroday> home: eh?\
[08:31] <home> ziroday, dang, alright. nevermind
[08:31] <home> ziroday, one minute.
[08:31] <ziroday> home: sure
[08:32] <home> ziroday, that's a pretty sweet script
[08:32] <ziroday> home: :), got a url for me?
[08:32] <home> ziroday, http://pastebin.com/f38d29b33
[08:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart, I see what you mean I thought that was only to connect to the server and not to the actual channels will experiment with it
[08:33] <ziroday> home: thanks :)
[08:33] <home> ziroday, no, thank you haha
[08:33] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday, thanx for pointing that out freenode is a maze of channels
[08:33] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: :)
[08:33] <dirtynerd> Whole system freezes when i try to read a DVD(not cds) can anyone help
[08:34] <Slart> Pirate_Hunter: you might want to try right clicking on the channel name in other places as well.. I think I recall there being some setting somewhere
[08:36] <home> dirtynerd, have you checked to see if your cd drive itself is corrupted?
[08:36] <ziroday> home: hmm do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:36] <Pirate_Hunter> Slart, will check, dont mind all the channels loading but it is an inconvenience when I dont need them
[08:36] <royrussell> dirtynerd app? sort of dvd?
[08:36] <ziroday> home: and if so could you be so kind as to pastebin it :)
[08:36] <home> ziroday, yes, should I no....When I opened it my monitor shut off again.
[08:36] <home> ziroday, hold on, gotta reboot
[08:37] <dirtynerd> dvd is vertium
[08:37] <dirtynerd> and skc
[08:37] <dirtynerd> tried many
[08:37] <dirtynerd> dvd drive is fine
[08:37] <FloodBot1> dirtynerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <ziroday> home: you can just do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it should show you if there is anything there
[08:37] <SpinachHead> Is there an advantage to downloading eclipse from the website versus using the Ubuntu package in the repos?
[08:37] <asdff> I have an invisible process on Karmic, the ID number is constantly increasing. Is this normal?
[08:37] <home> ziroday, no, i had it open in nano when my monitor was still on
[08:37] <ziroday> !latest > SpinachHead
[08:37] <ziroday> home: oh right
[08:38] <asdff> I have an invisible process on Karmic, the ID number is constantly increasing. Is this normal?
[08:38] <nowonmai> asdff: how are you monitoring this?
[08:38] <asdff> gnome-system-monitor
[08:38] <home> ziroday, http://pastebin.com/f467a2639
[08:39] <ziroday> home: okay, try change the line Driver "fglrx" to Driver "ati" for now
[08:39] <nowonmai> asdff: and it has no name?
[08:39] <GobLoCk> im a new in ubuntu
[08:39] <asdff> nowonmai: Indeed. it is also using 'N/A' memory
[08:40] <asdff> nowonmai: sometimes it dissapears and comes back, also killing it just restarts the ID number
[08:40] <nowonmai> asdff: that *is* odd. Its PID changes or remains the same?
[08:40] <asdff> nowonmai: ? It is constantly changing. It gradually increases its number.
[08:40] <Slart> asdff: add some columns to the system monitor.. see what other information you can find about it
[08:41] <asdff> kk brb
[08:41] <home> ziroday, okay.
[08:42] <nowonmai> asdff: add the 'command line' column to the process view
[08:42] <asdff> nowonmai: it's very hard to view one thing with all the columns, it constantly moves processes up and down :S
[08:42] <home> ziroday, doesn't that just change it back to the open source driver?
[08:43] <nowonmai> asdff: it's probably sorted by activity... change the sorting to name or something else that's static
[08:43] <asdff> oh lol k i r noob
[08:43] <ziroday> home: yeah
[08:44] <asdff> user: root, process name: , Sleeping, VM: N/A, RM: N/A, WM: N/A, SM: N/A XSM: 0 bytes, %cpu 0, CPU time 0:00.00
[08:44] <sixforty> I've forgotten apt-get command. sudo apt-get install thepackage. Could use a reminder
[08:44] <Kartagis> I never get to see facebook videos in full length. any solutions?
[08:44] <royrussell> Kartagis your not missing much
[08:44] <home> Kartagis, view them from youtube?
[08:45] <home> ziroday, now when i log into the desktop all I get is a white screen
[08:45] <ziroday> home: hmph.
[08:45] <ziroday> home: pastebin your new /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:45] <tomatoes7> anyone here use Liferay?
[08:45] <nowonmai> asdff: no PID there
[08:45] <Kartagis> home, not every facebook video is on youtube. royrussell I just want to know if there's a solution
[08:45] <asdff> nowonmai: it is a bit futile stating it, as it constantly changes
[08:46] <nowonmai> tomatoes7: yes... or I work on a system that does
[08:46] <asdff> nowonmai: 27319, 27414, 27513
[08:46] <Slart> asdff: no "command line" ?
[08:46] <asdff> Slart: nah just a blank field
[08:46] <home> Kartagis, it's probably a browser issue.
[08:46] <nowonmai> asdff: are you sure its the PID you are watching and not some spawned processes?
[08:46] <asdff> It says ID
[08:46] <asdff> :/
[08:47] <Kartagis> home, indeed, but how can I solve it?
[08:47] <asdff> nowonmai: also sometimes another process with the same problem (no name random PID) starts up but thne gets killed v. quickly
[08:47] <nowonmai> asdff: can you add the command line column?
[08:47] <asdff> nowonmai: I'll try
[08:47] <nowonmai> asdff: k
[08:47] <asdff> nowonmai: how do I do that?
[08:47] <asdff> nowonmai: oh lol I did, yeah it is empty
[08:48] <asdff> for started it is '?'
[08:49] <nowonmai> asdff: can you pastebin the output of 'ps -ef'
[08:49] <home> Kartagis, well, I'd start by trying a different brower and seeing if that resolves the problem.
[08:49] <asdff> yeah
[08:49] <home> ziroday, do you know how to boot straight into the console?
[08:49] <home> ziroday, any time the graphical system comes up my video dies
[08:50] <ttyX> change the runlevel
[08:50] <home> ziroday, nevermind found it
[08:50] <ziroday> home: great
[08:50] <asdff> also I am not sure if this is related
[08:50] <asdff> but XORG can randomly memory leak
[08:50] <asdff> and make my PC grind to a halt
[08:51] <Roxyhart0> hi there, i got a ldif file and i need take of a word which from this file ...maybe using sed. somebody know the exactly command?
[08:52] <asdff> nowonmai, Slart: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a618577
[08:52] <home> ziroday, er...from the root console in recovery mode i can't access my ethernet port...hold on im restarting
[08:52] <Slart> asdff: thanks
[08:52] <asdff> np
[08:52] <asdff> nowonmai, Slart: Also in my startup applications list I have an invisible entry I can uncheck/check but I cannot remove.
[08:52] <Slart> asdff: do you see the process in that listing?
[08:53] <asdff> Slart: erm no :/
[08:53] <theadmin> How can I add a directory to $PATH?
[08:53] <Kartagis> home, it is a browser problem
[08:54] <home> Kartagis, how to fix the browser is beyond me.  But you've found one that works, so go at it haha
[08:54] <Flannel> theadmin: PATH=/path/to/directory:$PATH (example in your ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile)
[08:54] <asdff> for some reason ps -ef seemed to trunacte some of the commands as well :S
[08:54] <joshhunt> Hey guys
[08:54] <Metzgerr> can s1 please explain me "Minority Indicator Code"?
[08:55] <theadmin> Flannel:  What's with the colon? Will that command change path forever or for one session only?
[08:55] <joshhunt> How can I split an xvid avi file into two totally independant files?
[08:55] <home> ziroday, ..you wouldn't happen to know how to access an ethernet port from a root prompt, would you?
[08:55] <ziroday> home: hehe, nope
[08:56] <Slart> Metzgerr: is this an ubuntu issue? what is a "Minority indicator code"?
[08:56] <Flannel> theadmin: The colon is the separator (echo $PATH to see the rest).  That's for this session only.  Add it to your profile/bash_profile for permanence
[08:57] <theadmin> Flannel: I added "PATH="$HOME/Programs/apachehttpd:$PATH"" to my .profile, yet "echo $PATH" does not show the directory specified.
[08:57] <Metzgerr> can s1 please explain me "Minority Indicator Code"?
[08:58] <royrussell> joshhunt ffmpeg,avidemux
[08:58] <nowonmai> asdff: nothing looks amiss in that... it's possible that gnome-system-monitor is misbehaving
[08:58] <home> ziroday, ha! I did it.  http://pastebin.com/f2c120dc6
[08:58] <Slart> Metzgerr: you haven't answered my question?
[08:58] <Flannel> theadmin: You'll need to re-source your profile (source .profile) for it to be read while you're still logged in
[08:58] <Slart> Metzgerr: do you want me to repeat it?
[08:58] <theadmin> Flannel: o_O
[08:59] <Metzgerr> Slart, no its offtopic, not ubuntu related ;)
[08:59] <joshhunt> royrussell: Yeah, i tried using ffmpeg, but it complained about codec support or something like that. I can only use command line apps
[08:59] <Slart> Metzgerr: then perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to ask.. we try to keep this channel for ubuntu support only
[08:59] <Flannel> theadmin: You changed a file that gets read whenever you log in.  Changing it won't affect your current session (because it only is read when you start up, not constantly).  Make sense?
[08:59] <Metzgerr> ok, sorry
[08:59] <royrussell> joshhunt do you have the stripped ubuntu ffmpeg, or the unstripped one?
[09:00] <theadmin> Flannel: Yeah. Just never heard of "source"
[09:00] <joshhunt> The stripped one from the ubuntu repos
[09:00] <royrussell> joshhunt get the unstriped one
[09:00] <ziroday> home: hmm I'm lost, I'm not seeing any errors in either of those logs. I'd try reseating the card and making sure that the monitor is plugged in correctly, other then that I'm lost.
[09:00] <ziroday> home: oh! Trying a karmic livecd may be beneficial as well
[09:01] <home> ziroday, I already run jaunty on this computer, although the fglrx doesn't support it, the radeon driver works fine
[09:01] <Bacta> Has anyone else had issues with Empathy?
[09:01] <Bacta> Messages not being received, lag etc. etc.?
[09:01] <home> ziroday, wait, should i change that entry from "ati" to "radeon"?
[09:01] <theadmin> ...Why "man sh" results in displaying manpage for "dash"? Are they the same?
[09:01] <Slart> theadmin: in ubuntu, yes.. they are
[09:02] <ziroday> home: it shouldn't matter
[09:02] <nowonmai> asdff: can you pastebin the output of 'ls -la /etc/init.d' pls
[09:02] <Neverwill> So I just downloaded and installed Ubuntu 9.1 andd its quite quick :)
[09:02] <tugrul> hi. i installed a game with wine. i need it's version. how can i get this?
[09:02] <theadmin> Neverwill: It's 9.10, not 9.1
[09:03] <theadmin> tugrul: Version of game or WINE?
[09:03] <tugrul> the game theadmin
[09:03] <xixo1983> hi
[09:03] <tugrul> in windows, you right click exe file, then properties etc..
[09:03] <theadmin> tugrul: Can't help with that, cause it's in the game I believe. Read the "About" or "Help" of the game
[09:04] <militant> hmmmm.  i upgraded to 9.10 on UNR and my wifi quit working
[09:04] <theadmin> tugrul: Ask on #winehq, they'll be a better help
[09:04] <xixo1983> theadmin
[09:04] <soreau> militant: Which card do you have?
[09:04] <theadmin> xixo1983: Huh
[09:04] <Neverwill> theadmin: My appologies ;)
[09:04] <militant> soreau: not sure, checking.  it's my netbook
[09:04] <home> ziroday, :( I just want to run quake
[09:05] <tugrul> thanks theadmin
[09:05] <LAZY_S0D> so who's excited for lucid lynx?
[09:05] <xixo1983> you knw  how configure  zend studio 7.1  in ubuntu 9.04
[09:05] <theadmin> LAZY_S0D: Everyone I believe. I am waiting for it every second of every day.
[09:05] <LAZY_S0D> lol, same here, can't wait for the install fest with the az-loco-team
[09:05] <xixo1983> i m getting
[09:06] <militant> soreau: atheros ar8132
[09:06] <xixo1983> Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class Zend_Loader in /var/www/zendtesting/library/Zend/Loader.php on line 31
[09:06] <soreau> militant: Does 'lsmod|grep ath' show any output?
[09:07] <militant> nope
[09:07] <soreau> militant: Try 'sudo modprobe ath9k'
[09:07] <theadmin> militant: The above does not look correct. ehm.  soreau, There must be spaces afaik. Try this: "lsmod | grep ath"
[09:08] <Neverwill> So uh, main reason I got a Linux distro was because of the nice programming environment, anyone have any suggestions on where to start?
[09:08] <soreau> theadmin: No, there does not need to be spaces against a pipe. Try it 'lspci|grep VGA'
[09:08] <soreau> militant: If there's no output, that's a good thing. Check 'iwconfig' for a wlan0 interface
[09:08] <militant> soreau: done, i figured it was that, but what now?  ath9k loaded and it shows ath itself now too
[09:09] <militant> says no wireless extensions
[09:10] <soreau> militant: Does 'lsmod|grep ath' show ath9k is loaded now? Does 'dmesg' show anything interesting?
[09:10] <militant> shows ath and ath9k loaded
[09:11] <militant> rebooting it now will chck dmesg
[09:12] <theadmin> Anyway. Can I somehow, please, remove the white Ubuntu logo on boot? "usplash", is it?
[09:12] <Myrtti> theadmin: xsplash nowadays, if I'm not mistaken
[09:13] <theadmin> Myrtti: Hm
[09:13] <ikonia> Myrtti: think it still goes
[09:13] <ikonia> theadmin: set the grub option nosplash or splash=no
[09:13] <theadmin> ikonia: How can I?
[09:13] <theadmin> ikonia: Note, I'm still on grub 1
[09:13] <ikonia> theadmin: set the config option in the menu.lst
[09:13] <ikonia> theadmin: grub1  = better, so not a problem
[09:14] <theadmin> ikonia: Does it matter where I put it? Can I put it right at the beginning?
[09:14] <militant> hmmmm soreau that fixed it, just the modprobe and a reboot.  thx
[09:15] <ikonia> theadmin: normally at the end is better, but it really should 't matter
[09:15] <theadmin> ikonia: Thanks. Will test now.
[09:17] <Duskao> anyone know why my composition (kwin) keeps turning off when I restart my computer?
[09:17] <Duskao> on kubuntu
[09:18] <home> I'm having trouble installing the quake 3 arena demo..
[09:19] <indus> home, ya it wont install that good , and even if it does it will give trouble with sound
[09:20] <indus> home, try the ioquake3 installer
[09:20] <indus> home, then move the quake pak files to the q3base folder
[09:20] <theadmin> ikonia: That did not work, it still appears
[09:20] <home> indus, im so glad you're here.  it's toastedmilk from yesterday
[09:20] <indus> home, :) heya
[09:21] <home> indus, i partitioned my harddrive and got 8.04, and the fglrx driver was killing me for a minute
[09:21] <adifire> which channel should i join to know how i can contribute as a developer?
[09:21] <ikonia> theadmin: Hmmm maybe Myrtti is right on this, I still thought you could dump it
[09:21] <theadmin> ikonia: Dump?
[09:21] <home> indus, I had to fresh install --reinstall everything from the console
[09:21] <ikonia> adifire: that do you want to contribute to ?
[09:21] <ikonia> theadmin: remove
[09:21] <theadmin> ikonia: I don't know how to.
[09:21] <indus> adifire, start with #ubuntu-bugs
[09:21] <indus> home, console?
[09:21] <adifire> well, anything that has python in it...
[09:21] <indus> !bugs
[09:21] <ikonia> theadmin: I know - you've just said that
[09:21] <indus> home, so is the fglrx working fine now?
[09:22] <theadmin> ikonia: So... Well, I only tried "nosplash" so far
[09:22] <ikonia> adifire: find some packages that are made up from python and contact the maintainers, or - work outside ubuntu on python projects and the packages will be brough into ubuntu if they are good
[09:22] <home> indus, well, i thought it was, but my monitor just shut off again.
[09:22] <indus> home, did you edit anything?
[09:22] <home> indus, you said you have an X1900 XT with amd64 right?
[09:22] <adifire> ikonia : ok, thanks.
[09:23] <home> indus, the only thing I did was under the Device section put a line Driver "fglrx"
[09:23] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh I see what the problem is. It says here "ro quiet splash" on menu entry
[09:23] <indus> home, sorry but i dont know much about fglrx because its running fine for me now
[09:23] <home> indus, but you have the same card, right?
[09:23] <adifire> another q... is it possible to remove entry from grub 2, and then put it back?
[09:25] <adifire> thing is i want to remove the windows 7 entry for some while, and then restore it back..
[09:25] <adifire> will update-grub2 do the job of restoring windows back??
[09:25] <indus> home, you should not need to generally
[09:25] <indus> home, anyways whats with quake 3
[09:25] <indus> home, you get error , no such file or directory with some r alphabet
[09:26] <home> indus, well, interestingly enough, the download package for the demo on idsoftware is down, so i got it from somewhere else, and it isn't a .tar.gz
[09:27] <infecto> hello, i have strange problem with my mplayer, it freeze couple of times and i need to revind the move when i`m playing it
[09:27] <infecto> known isue?
[09:28] <indus> home, mine is  a 4850 :)
[09:28] <indus> home, sorry got disconnected
[09:28] <home> indus, no worries.  this is infuriating!
[09:28] <indus> home, go to getdeb.net and see if they have the q3 installer
[09:28] <indus> my net is down
[09:29] <home> indus, my monitor keeps shutting off and I have to keep rebooting my computer
[09:29] <home> indus, I can't even run a virtual console for more than 5 minutes
[09:29] <indus> home, is happeningto me on my lucid install
[09:29] <indus> home, maybe the refresh rates are wrong out of sync
[09:29] <indus> home, you can change driver to vesa and try
[09:29] <indus> home, or do a complete removal and reinstall of fglrx
[09:30] <home> indus, I did!
[09:30] <indus> home, !
[09:30] <pweezy> hi, hi, im trying to get an hd 5770 running on 9.10
[09:30] <theadmin> ikonia: Aaand it worked. Thank you.
[09:30] <ikonia> theadmin: ooh, cool, glad it still works
[09:30] <pweezy> with fglrx?
[09:30] <indus> home, what monitor is this
[09:30] <home> indus, viewsonic
[09:30] <pweezy> i get a hard lock when i use fglrx, though :/
[09:31] <home> indus, va7612b
[09:31] <pweezy> catalyst 10.1?
[09:31] <indus> home, try deleting xorg conf , then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:31] <arand> adifire: What you do in that case is make the 30_os-prober script unexecutable: "chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober" the run update-grub, which won't read the 30_ script and not add windows, then when you want it back you just make the 30_ script executable again with +x (in the chmod command) and then run update-grub again.
[09:31] <indus> screw grub2
[09:32] <arand> indus: not an options by now though :/
[09:32] <indus> or maybe the documentation is just poor
[09:32] <indus> arand, can you tell me what this 30 prober and 40 is
[09:33] <home> indus, should i use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[09:33] <arand> indus: grub helper scripts found in /etc/grub.d/
[09:33] <indus> home, leave it at default
[09:33] <adifire> arand: thanks!
[09:33] <indus> arand, ok just a simple question, if i want to look for menu list, where to look
[09:33] <home> indus, eh..it was a popup when i ran the command.  i'll not use it.
[09:33] <pweezy> eek how do i disable/change the 'dont run as root' policy in effect on ubuntu?
[09:33] <indus> home, no no you should complete all steps
[09:34] <home> indus, ...it's just asking me if i should use the kernel framebuffer device interface
[09:34] <indus> home, say no
[09:34] <Slart> pweezy: you mean the "cannot login as root to gnome"-setting?
[09:34] <arand> indus: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is the equivalence, but you shouldn't edit that... atm the creation of the lists are all baked into the helper scripts
[09:34] <pweezy> Slart: no i mean the "cannot log in as root in bash" setting
[09:35] <arand> indus: So there is no proper equivalence, no.
[09:35] <Slart> pweezy: hmm.. not sure about that really.. make sure root has a valid login shell in /etc/passwd
[09:36] <Slart> pweezy: of course I have to throw the obligatory "you can use sudo -i to get a root shell" at you
[09:36] <home> indus, now how do I run gnome out of the shell?
[09:36] <pweezy>  Slart root is set to bash in /etc/passwd
[09:36] <pweezy> no i just want to use su.
[09:36] <infid> =o
[09:36] <pweezy> as is the standard.
[09:37] <Slart> pweezy: can't help you any further then.. sorry
[09:37] <mefiX> is there any setting on how windows get the focus? if i start an application it _always_ gets the front focus, although i am typing in another app, how can i modify this behaviour?
[09:37] <pweezy> Slart: ok thanks anyway the i switch helps alot though
[09:37] <home> indus, and I don't have a glxinfo
[09:38] <pweezy> i just do not, not, not, not like that my users can use -their- password to execute commands as -root-.
[09:38] <Slart> pweezy: you're welcome
[09:38] <theadmin> mefiX: Metacity is not highly configurable, sorry. I'm WAY annoyed by this too. Maybe you should get another window manager... Not sure which though
[09:38] <Slart> pweezy: then disable it in the sudoers file
[09:39] <nagarjuna_> Could not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2_private/': Read-only file system
[09:39] <Slart> pweezy: you can even disable certain commands while letting them use sudo to run other commands.. so sudo cp works.. but not gksudo gpartedf
[09:40] <nagarjuna_> getting error please help
[09:40] <gabriel_> Hello Everyone
[09:40] <nagarjuna_> Could not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2_private/': Read-only file system
[09:40] <theadmin> Hi, gabriel_.
[09:41] <dinamizador> Hola!
[09:41] <theadmin> nagarjuna_: Do not repeat often please, try to keep the channel clean. If nobody answers, nobody knows.
[09:42] <Roxyhart0> Hola amigo
[09:43] <Pixar2> Hey, any idea how to backup the Ktorrent seeding torrents before a clean Ubuntu reinstall? I really don't want to reseed manually over 100 torrents.
[09:43] <theadmin> Pixar2: I believe it should be in it's config directory.
[09:43] <home> indus, do you know how to compile the quake 3 source?
[09:43] <theadmin> Pixar2: ~/.ktorrent maybe... or ~/.kde/ktorrent or something similar
[09:44] <nagarjuna_> how to install latex in ubuntu
[09:44] <Pixar2> I checked it's main folder and it's nothing related to my seeding torrents over there
[09:45] <gabriel_> is there any way I can check which ports are open via terminal?
[09:46] <gh0st> Hello, is it possible to install/run/maintain Vuze in a CLI Environment? im looking to have my ubuntu server to have a torrent client that is capable of remote management and possibly a built in tracker. any ideas?
[09:46] <nagarjuna_> how to configure static network in ubuntu
[09:46] <theadmin> gh0st: AFAIR, Transmission has a CLI interface AND is capable of remotely controlling
[09:48] <theadmin> nagarjuna_: As for LaTeX, try the texmaker package. A good frontend.
[09:49] <gh0st> :theadmin i found transmission to be quite slow and doesnt offer much in the way of a webui, also no embedded tracker(embedded tracker isnt make or break, just a nice bonus) but main detterent, it downloads WAY to slow, one of the worst clients ive ever experimented with
[09:49] <nagarjuna_> theadmin: thanks
[09:49] <home> Can you run a bash script from a url?
[09:49] <Myrtti> in general, no
[09:49] <jad> hello
[09:50] <milktash> i cant get ubuntu to recognise my built in webcam or mic or get the speakers to work on skype
[09:50] <milktash> any help?
[09:50] <jad> what skype version do you have  ?
[09:50] <jad> skype -v
[09:51] <jad> milktash,
[09:51] <milktash> it was the latest one from the package managaer but i have removed it now
[09:51] <jad> mm...
[09:52] <jad> i had a lot of problems with the old skype, i had to reconfigure it somehow
[09:52] <jad> don't get it from the repos
[09:52] <jad> just download it from the site
[09:52] <milktash> i tried that too
[09:52] <milktash> i have an advent 4211 same as msi wind
[09:52] <milktash> with built in cam n mic
[09:53] <milktash> but ubuntu wont recognise it
[09:53] <ociugi> why is the network shared printer has authentication but the there is not password set on the server?
[09:53] <milktash> even on the cheese app
[09:53] <jad> mmm...
[09:54] <ociugi> it keeps asking me the user name and password but there is no password set on the printer
[09:54] <milktash> have you any ideas?
[09:54] <jad> no
[09:54] <chilli0> Is there anything like active directory for ubuntu ?
[09:54] <collabra> milktash: is this a laptop?
[09:54] <jad> the problem is then with ur cam, since cheese is also not runnin it
[09:54] <milktash> yes
[09:55] <collabra> mildtash:  alot of laptops,...at least for the cam,... has a button that enables it,.... my laptop cam didn't work until i pressed a button
[09:56] <jad> should be an easy one: how do I get the last n characters from a stream (as in a command)
[09:56] <ociugi> why is the network shared printer has authentication but the there is no password set on the server?
[09:57] <reema> how to include a new package in openwrt?
[09:57] <hyperstream> ociugi, define server
[09:57] <milktash> true this worked
[09:57] <milktash> il try skype
[09:57] <milktash> but i dont think there is a mic button!
[09:57] <collabra> milktash: im glad to have helped
[09:57] <hyperstream> milktash, should turn on with the cam
[09:58] <milktash> oh ok#
[09:58] <milktash> thanks mate
[09:58] <collabra> yeah,... no prob
 what do you mean
[09:58] <milktash> i hate those 'i feel stupid' moments
[09:58] <collabra> so do i
[09:58] <rocket16> Hello
[09:58] <collabra> it took me a week of frustration before i figured it out
[09:59] <jad> milktash, to check if the mic is running:  system>sound>input
[09:59] <jad> system>preferences>sound>input
[09:59] <ubuntuCEO> hi all
[10:00] <bazhang> ubuntuCEO, hi
[10:01] <chilli0> Is there anything like active directory for ubuntu ?
[10:03] <jad> what do u mean active directory ?
[10:04] <jad> chilli0,
[10:05] <collabra> isn't active directory a windows thing
[10:05] <chilli0> jad,  Like windows
[10:05] <chilli0> Yeh.
[10:05] <ikonia> chilli0: ldap
[10:05] <ikonia> chilli0: ldap is what active directory is based on
[10:05] <jad> dunno
[10:05] <arand> jad: I think you could use "tail"
[10:05] <jad> thx
[10:05] <jad> tail -c
[10:05] <collabra> ah,... yeah,.. there is,...i'm just not sure where,.... have you searched for it in synaptic?
[10:05] <chilli0> Thanks ikonia
[10:05] <chilli0> brb
[10:07] <chilli0> ikonia,  And how would i setup the client's
[10:08] <ikonia> chilli0: do you want clients to bond to AD, or do you want a linux AD server ?
[10:09] <chilli0> ikonia,  Clients will be linux, so a linux main server.
[10:09] <chilli0> ikonia, ubuntu clients and probley debian serever.
[10:10] <ikonia> chilli0: so you need an ldap server, you need the correct schema, then you need to play with the ldap clients and pam to bind to it
[10:10] <kelvinella> i have other one, If y^x = x^y then find y'
[10:10] <chilli0> kelvinella,  Not really ubuntu related ?
[10:11] <Kartagis> !radio
[10:11] <kelvinella> chilli0, sorry wrong tab haha
[10:11] <collabra> y=x
[10:11] <Kartagis> should I install icecast to broadcast radio?
[10:11] <ikonia> Kartagis: if you want
[10:11] <chilli0> ikonia,  So a debian server with ldap
[10:11] <Zarathust> some of my mouse buttons aren't picked up by xev
[10:11] <collabra> just a guess
[10:12] <chilli0> then do all the other magical stuff
[10:12] <Zarathust> what should i do?
[10:12] <ikonia> chilli0: that would work fine, it's quite a big overhead unless ou have a large network though
[10:12] <hyperstream> ociugi, err, ubuntu? windows?
[10:12] <Kartagis> ikonia, is there an alternative?
[10:12] <collabra> y=1
[10:12] <chilli0> collabra, No, kelvinella Wanted y'
 ubuntu
[10:13] <chilli0> ikonia,  Im at TAFE doing networking and just want a headstart =P
[10:13] <hyperstream> ociugi, the ubuntu server has no password?
[10:13] <kelvinella> dont think the y' is 1
 the printer setting was fine but it keeps promting me the authentication
[10:13] <collabra> what's 1 to the power of 1?
[10:14] <erUSUL> !ot | collabra
 i am using karmic then the printer server is in windows xp
[10:14] <hyperstream> ociugi, ok so the server is windows xp,
 yes
[10:14] <hyperstream> ociugi, you need to add the windows xp account to samba i believe
[10:14] <hyperstream> !samba
[10:15] <karex> HI, help me... do you know how to get Java API documentation? I've installed opnjdk-6-doc, am I correct?
 how?
[10:15] <karex> openjdk-6-doc I mean
[10:15] <ikonia> chilli0: ldap is nothing to do with networking
[10:15] <lolita> olaaa
[10:15] <hyperstream> ociugi, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Add+windows+users+to+samba
[10:15] <bazhang> !es | lolita
[10:16] <crow_> How do I install googleearth on ubuntu? I couldn't find it in the ubuntu software center
[10:16] <lolita> olaa!!
[10:16] <Rodrii> lolaa
[10:16] <chilli0> ikonia,  Setting up a network does. And using ldap to login with diffrent users on same computers is networking.
[10:16] <erUSUL> karex: if you use openjdk then yes... sun-java6-doc also exist if you use sun's java
[10:16] <Rodrii> olaa
[10:16] <kelvinella> crow_, get the bin file from google
[10:16] <erUSUL> !es | lolita Rodrii
[10:16] <lolita> ola
[10:16] <ikonia> chilli0: central authentication is not networking
[10:16] <bazhang> Rodrii, lolita #ubuntu-es
[10:16] <Rodrii> qee raroo
[10:16] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | crow_
[10:16] <Rodrii> olaa
[10:16] <aioobe> can I install eclipse without installing gcj?? (It's not among the recommended, but among "The following extra packages will be installed"
[10:16] <lolita> decidle a julia k se conecte
[10:16] <Rodrii> uueno
[10:16] <karex> erUSUL: are they different in using (sun and openjdk)?
[10:16] <Rodrii> yoo aqii me liooo
[10:16] <Rodrii> xdxd
[10:17] <chilli0> ikonia,  With out it i couldn't setup the network.
[10:17] <Rodrii> no entiendo naa
[10:17] <bazhang> lolita, Rodrii here is English only; /join #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <lolita> diselo!!!
[10:17] <Rodrii> lo q??
[10:17] <bazhang> lolita, Rodrii please stop
[10:17] <lolita> a julia Q se conecte
[10:17] <ikonia> chilli0: yes you can, you can setup a network without central authentication
[10:17] <erUSUL> karex: they are not exactly the same. some API are still missing or suboptimal in openjdk (audio and 3d) but openjdk is opensource ;)
[10:17] <ikonia> chilli0: authenication is nothing to do with networking
[10:17] <Rodrii> ya se lo e dixo pero tan axiendo el resumen
[10:17] <lolita> nosotras somos sanish!!!
[10:18] <Rodrii> spanish??
[10:18] <Rodrii> yess
[10:18] <Rodrii> spanish!!
[10:18] <bazhang> Rodrii, yes. /join #ubuntu-es
[10:18] <Rodrii> jaja
[10:18] <erUSUL> Rodrii: tienes que ir a #ubuntu-es o te hecharán
[10:18] <Rodrii> dnd es esoo
[10:18] <chilli0> ikonia,  We need to make a network that is like a school. for our class. And like a school means anyone can login to there files from any computer and get there files
[10:18] <karex> erUSUL: i've installed it, how to open the documentation?
[10:19] <erUSUL> Rodrii: escribe "/j #ubuntu-es" y dale a enter
[10:19] <erUSUL> karex: i gues it is in /usr/share/doc/openo....
[10:19] <ikonia> chilli0: ok - so central authentication is the requirement, nothing to do with networking, I understand
[10:20] <karex> erUSUL: why don't they create a shortcut in application menu... ;)
[10:20] <erUSUL> karex: dunno :)
[10:21] <qtk> umc umc umc umc
[10:22] <collabra> i was right the first time
[10:22] <chilli0> ikonia,  How could it be done with out centeral authorising.
[10:22] <bazhang> !pl | qtk
[10:22] <collabra> x hast to equal y
[10:22] <qtk> yeah
[10:22] <karex> aioobe: if "This following extra..." is written, i think it is a dependency..
[10:22] <erUSUL> collabra: stop the offtopic already
[10:23] <collabra> sorry
[10:23] <Goilio> Any one know why this doesn't work?
[10:23] <Goilio> wget http://somesite/post.php?out=`iptables -L TRAFFIC_OUT -n -v -x | awk '$1 ~ /^[0-9]+$/ { printf "%s|%d||", $7, $2}'`&in=`iptables -L TRAFFIC_IN -n -v -x | awk '$1 ~ /^[0-9]+$/ { printf "%s|%d||", $8,$2}'`
[10:23] <ikonia> chilli0: that would be tricky to do,
[10:24] <Goilio> All the commands work its just when they are with the wget
[10:24] <qtk> Which audioplayer is the best?:P
[10:24] <aioobe> karex: ok. just thought that if I had sun-java-jdk, that would do... thanks anyway
[10:25] <erUSUL> !best | qtk
[10:25] <Goilio> qtk: RhythemBox
[10:25] <bazhang> qtk, there is no best, try some different ones such as amarok, banshee and others
[10:26] <qtk> okey, thx
[10:27] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, is it possible to create a ReadOnly user within phpmyadmin, without creating a readonly user in mysql ?
[10:27] <hyperstream> !phpmyadmin | DjAngo23
[10:27] <hyperstream> hmm DjAngo23 /join #phpmyadmin
[10:27] <DjAngo23> Okay ;)
[10:30] <albasheers> how to convert pdf file to document , i tried Koffice and open office but it not working
[10:30] <Slart> albasheers: in general, you can't.
[10:31] <iceroot> DjAngo23: the phpmyadmin-user is always a DB-user
[10:31] <obaid> albasheers, try pdf-shuffler
[10:31] <Slart> albasheers: you can try to recover some of the structure and text most of the time.. but it depends on how the pdf was produced
[10:34] <tparcina> In /etc/iptables.rule I have http://pastebin.ca/1776847 and this is how my iptables looks like afther I restart my computer - http://pastebin.ca/1776848
[10:34] <tparcina> Why are they different?
[10:35] <knxville> tparcina: tried installing firestarter, gives a gui, and in my opinion better overview..
[10:35] <mind-gi> hello
[10:35] <tparcina> knxville: I don't have GUI.
[10:35] <obaid> guarddog more advanced
[10:35] <tparcina> obaid: Is guarddog GUI for iptables?
[10:35] <obaid> ufw
[10:36] <knxville> tparcina, Ahhh.. alright!.. Well, I do not know why your iptables is changing after restart..
[10:36] <ChaosR> hello, I have a problem with my boot sequence, several daemons are not started, plus rc.local is never executed. Any way to debug and/or fix this?
[10:36] <mind-gi> i am having problems with my screen using ubuntu 9.10. could anyone bother to help me?
[10:36] <obaid> if u are working on command line, ufw is more simpler
[10:36] <knxville> mind-gi: post your question, what is wrong?
[10:36] <collabra> much simpler
[10:36] <obaid> sudo apt-cache info guarddog
[10:37] <obaid> sudo apt-cache show guarddog
[10:37] <mind-gi> my screen goes blank every 5 minutes when i watch a film on vlc player. i have no idea what might be wrong, though it's definitely not power manager.
[10:37] <knxville> mind-gi, tried updating your graphic drivers?
[10:37] <obaid> exactly 5 minutes ?
[10:37] <tparcina> obaid: iptables isn't complicated for me, just I don't understand why Ubuntu loads this configuration.
[10:37] <mind-gi> yes, exactly 5 minutes.
[10:37] <collabra> mind-gi: check your screensaver
[10:38] <mind-gi> i haven't updated my graphic drivers. how can i do that?
[10:38] <obaid> mind-gi, not graphics card
[10:38] <obaid> check your screensaver settings, check power settings
[10:38] <mind-gi> thanks, it works. it was screensaver! ;-)
[10:38] <collabra> ur welcome
[10:38] <tparcina> knxville: Me either. I have check /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptaload and it says iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules
[10:38] <knxville> mind-gi, if its every 5 minutes, it's because your screensaver is dimming every 5 minutes.. as obaid said, its screensaver or powersaver
[10:39] <ChaosR> anyone able to jump in on my problem now :P
[10:39] <DjAngo23> iceroot: thanks
[10:40] <obaid> tparcina, unfortunately, i lack experiance with iptables
[10:40] <obaid> it is on my todo list to learn about it
[10:40] <Guest38330> hi looking for info how to set up a router linksys WRT54GL
[10:40] <obaid> Guest38330, can u get a nickname
[10:41] <tparcina> obaid: Thank you for trying to help!
[10:41] <turtle^s0up> does anyone know how i can get GIMP (version 2.7.) to remember the Single Window settings? everytime i restart the application it forgets the setting.
[10:41] <obaid> Guest38330,does your WRT54GL having the linksys firmware ?
[10:42] <Guest38330> I will try.timed out.
[10:42] <Guest38330> yes
[10:42] <obaid> turtle^s0up, if that is possible, it would be stored in gconf, walk through gimp in gconf-tools
[10:43] <ChaosR> anyone, really :P
[10:43] <Kartagis> !xmms
[10:43] <collabra> ChaosR: keep tryin',.... i don't know enough for that one,.... try #debian channel or maybey ##linux
[10:43] <obaid> Guest38330, this is out of the channel's scope, but it doesn't matter, does your WRT54GL release IP on either WLAN or LAN interfacec ?
[10:44] <obaid> ChaosR, ?
[10:44] <ChaosR> I have a problem with my boot sequence, several daemons are not started, plus rc.local is never executed. Any way to debug and/or fix this?
[10:44] <turtle^s0up> obaid: i'm on KDE, is there a way i can access the configuration files from cli or without installing gconf-editor?
[10:44] <Kartagis> how do I get xmms2 gui?
[10:44] <obaid> i dont know about KDE, never used it turtle^s0up
[10:45] <obaid> ChaosR, daemons would log errors, can you check them
[10:45] <turtle^s0up> obaid: thanks for the hint
[10:45] <ChaosR> obaid: checking every log from every started program is a bit extensive
[10:45] <ChaosR> obaid: the scripts are simply never run
[10:46] <ChaosR> obaid: somewhere the boot process goes like meh and stops running, and trows in my kde-login
[10:46] <obaid> ChaosR, if you have added some services to start on boot, you should use update-rc.d
[10:47] <ChaosR> obaid: rc.local seems pretty default to me, plus stuff was working a week ago
[10:47] <obaid> ChaosR, checking your logs are the only way to see what is the problem
[10:48] <ChaosR> obaid: where are the boot logs, I can't seem to remember where they are
[10:48] <obaid> /var/log
[10:48] <ChaosR> which file
[10:48] <jokehead> what does the "spin down hard disks" in power management do? what are the advantages and disadvantages?
[10:49] <obaid> ChaosR, there might be lots of log files, check dmesg, daemon.log
[10:49] <ChaosR> obaid: checked those, nothing special there
[10:50] <ChaosR> anyways, found the bootlog settings, going to reboot now
[10:50] <obaid> ok
[10:50] <octavio> #titstorm
   but i want to use tomato Im using a draytek 100 which is working.But as you said I think I will try absolute beginners forum as i am new to this its too fast for me.thanks anyway.
[10:50] <meowbuntu> hi i am wondering how to search applications in ubuntu repos from terminal.
[10:51] <arand> meowbuntu: "aptitude search name"
[10:51] <jussi01> meowbuntu: or apt-cache search name
[10:51] <meowbuntu> arand, would apt-get search name work too
[10:51] <jokehead> what does the "spin down hard disks" option mean in power management? what are the advantages and disadvantages?
[10:51] <collabra> meowbuntu: or just aptitude
[10:51] <meowbuntu> collabra, no
[10:52] <octavio> Howdy, this is my first time using IRC, I'm sorry if I come off as a total nubby, but I'm looking for a certain channel and I was wondering if someone could help me get there?
[10:52] <collabra> ok
[10:52] <arand> meowbuntu: nope ↑ as pointed out you need apt-cache.
[10:52] <V1k1n9> Hey, what's wrong with "num1[$i]=$(${num1$i]}+$num2)" plz :)
[10:52] <V1k1n9> Hey, what's wrong with "num1[$i]=$(${num1[$i]}+$num2)" plz :)
[10:52] <Buxnaman> im really new to linux need a quick help..
[10:53] <Myrtti> !ask | Buxnaman
[10:53] <obaid> jokehead, spindown turns off hdd disc rotation to save power, advantage, save power, disadvantage, none
[10:53] <nobby> hi anasha
[10:53] <meowbuntu> !help