[05:42] <ubotu> widoooo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:42] <sohranit> Flannel expound,?
[05:42] <Lam_> is there a recommended processing speed for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[05:43] <Chesney> CaptainMorgan: Ahh I misread that. Yeah I would suggest a lamp server. Makes everything nice and easy. Though I would really only suggest a LAMP for development. Production you might wanna take the time fo configure one yoursefl
[05:43] <widoooo> i dont need help
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !de
[05:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:43] <erstazi> widoooo: sorry
[05:43] <sohranit> Flannel: , ?
[05:44] <Chesney> Looking for some help with a Linksys WMP54G wlan PCI card. Comeon someone knows what I need to dp =)
[05:44] <Flannel> sohranit: Well, If you followed the FromKnoppix or Netboot (or a few others) instrctions, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/  You wouldn't need a CD, and you'd install like normal, being able to choose which partitions to use, etc
[05:44] <genii> Lam_ You should have a minimum cpu of pentium2 233
[05:44] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan: since you're doing java..why not install Tomcat? it can do as well as Apache can
[05:44] <Flannel> sohranit: if you mean wiping your /bin and stuff, yeah.  Unless you want to dualboot.
[05:44] <sohranit> Flannel but you're saying i'd have to erase what's already on the disk ?
[05:44] <CapaH> ... Anyone? Does anyone know what I need to do to read from the firewire in Ubuntu?
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> Chesney, what do you mean dev vs. prod? I will be running a webserver and multipurpose site...
[05:44] <widoooo> i thought i can help because and so i dont closed the standard-window here in gnome-xchat
[05:45] <widoooo> -because
[05:45] <Checkka> hmm
[05:45] <sohranit> Flannel so ubuntu supports bsd disklabels, ?
[05:45] <Flannel> sohranit: You wouldn't have to erase everything.  You could keep /home and stuff, just like norml.
[05:45] <Checkka> Does pida only work for python?
[05:45] <Checkka> or was it meant for other languages as well
[05:45] <genii> Lam_ Anything over pentium3 class around 500 does fine otherwise
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> Chesney, if by dev you mean, webdev, well sure.. but there will also be webprod as well
[05:45] <Flannel> sohranit: Can't remember.  You might check google.
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> so I am confused by your statemnt
[05:45] <sohranit> Flannel ..
[05:46] <Chesney> CaptainMorgan: From my experience, and its been a while LAMP servers that are preconfigured, just...I've had strange things happen. The systems I configured myself just seemed to do better.
[05:46] <Chesney> CaptainMorgan: I am very unfamiliar with Ubuntus server distro though.
[05:46] <b0b> plz help me i can't remember for the love of god how to enable direct 3d rendering what is the command
[05:46] <Flannel> Chesney, CaptainMorgan, the LAMP ubuntu installs is still fully configurable.  It's not a package in and of itself, just an easy way to install Apache/PHP/SQL/etc
[05:47] <Lam_> genii: ok thanks. my uncle has a really old laptop with a 433 MHz.
[05:47] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you'll be fine following the ubuntu wiki.  Stay away from ubuntuguide
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> Chesney, can you elaborate 'strange things happen' ? My previous statement shut down abruptly and upon restart httpd or webserver of any kind would not function.. hence my reinstallation
[05:47] <widoooo> bye
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> Chesney, oh..ok
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> err.. statement = system
[05:48] <youser> hey is there an easy wao to install a splash theme in feisty?
[05:48] <genii> Lam_ If it has less than about 192Mb ram you should use the alternate install cd to put on the OS. Otherwise should run OK
[05:48] <Flannel> youser: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[05:48] <youser> ah i see
[05:48] <Chesney> Flannel, CaptainMorgan, Yeah. Like I said, Flannel probably knows better then I do. I've never used Ubuntus LAMP. and have you checked the Apache error logs to see why it refuses to start again?
[05:48] <youser> #ubuntu+1
[05:48] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan: since you're doing java..why not install Tomcat? it can do as well as Apache can..
[05:48] <EnsignRedshirt> I was experimenting with 'sudo date' (in order to experiment with the DST change), and I set the date back one day.  I want to change it again, but sudo complains that the timestamp is too far in the future!  How can I fix this?
[05:49] <Lam_> genii: yeah. it has a 433 MHz with 330 MB RAM. an odd ratio for such an old laptop in my opinion
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> Chesney, no real problem exists.. this is a fresh install.. I am looking for ubuntu information on webserver as I am new to ubuntu's server features.. .my last system was running fedora
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> decided to switch
[05:49] <genii> Lam_ Yes, that is an odd amount of ram
[05:49] <Chesney> CaptainMorga: *shudder* Better luck with the Ubuntu install.
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> bulmer, ... familarity with apache??
[05:49] <Flannel> bulmer, CaptainMorgan, you realise tomcat is apache, right?
[05:50] <bulmer> yep
[05:50] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[05:50] <Pelo> Lam_,  consider xubuntu, uses xcfe instead of gnome,  suppose to be lighter
[05:50] <bulmer> its a branch off apache
[05:50] <genii> must be a 256 plus 64 sticks in it
[05:50] <bulmer> and its natural to have java since tomcat is java based
[05:50] <Chesney> Come on guys, I'm getting REALLY desperate to figure this WMP54G wlan card problem out. If you know anything... Please.
[05:51] <Pir8> Is there a way in 6.10 to just do a basic LAMP server install ?
[05:51] <Lam_> Pelo: yeah. i may end up using xfce instead. i much prefer KDE though
[05:51] <Flannel> !lamp | Pir8
[05:51] <ubotu> Pir8: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:51] <Teekrul> ok i have installed Wine however i can not fine where i can use the program.... any idea where i can find it? i have looked under Applications, places, and System...  any ideas pls would help
[05:51] <Pir8> Flannel thanks
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Teekrul,  read some wine docs.. in short.. wine /path/to/windows/binary/command.exe
[05:51] <Flannel> Pir8: If you don't want to download the server CD, and have the alternate CD, you can install the "server" option (a CLI only box), then install LAMP on that easy enough
[05:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Teekrul: wine is basically a command line program.
[05:51] <Pelo> Teekrul,   you use wine by  stayint wine before the path to your window app
[05:51] <bulmer> Chesney: does it get an ip addr?
[05:52] <Pelo> stating
[05:52] <Teekrul> thanks
[05:52] <b0b> what is the command for enabling direct 3d rendering for my nvidia card i have the drivers installed
[05:52] <Robbie_Crash> I just got told that my root dir is full and I have no idea what is safely deletable
[05:52] <Chesney> bulmer: The furthest I am getting is a successful sudo iwlist wlan0 scan.
[05:52] <Flannel> Robbie_Crash: What's your partition scheme like?  Is everything on one partition?
[05:52] <shatrat> b0b, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart X, if youre sure youve installed the nvidia drivers.
[05:52] <bulmer> Chesney: and it tells you which AP are seeable?
[05:53] <shatrat> b0b, if there is a problem though you need to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" to recover.
[05:53] <Robbie_Crash> nope, root is /dev/hda1 home is /dev/hda2 all media files are stored on different physical drives
[05:54] <Chesney> bulmer: I can see my cell, but as soon as I "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid {mysite} key {10digithex} mode Managed" also various forms of key open, key restricted (xxxxxxxxxx, xxxx-xxxx-xx)
[05:54] <Robbie_Crash> how big does the root partition really need to be?
[05:54] <Pelo> Robbie_Crash,  open up synaptic, hit the "state" or "status" button at the bottom left of the windows and see if you have any packages listed as unsued and stuff
[05:54] <Flannel> Robbie_Crash: /home is the only thing not on / (and not media stuff)
[05:54] <genii> Chesney: Are you on Edgy?
[05:54] <Chesney> bulmer: if the device is enabled throguh gnome if I try to make any changes in terminal, i get a resource busy
[05:54] <Chesney> genii: yeah
[05:54] <floresc77> hey guys
[05:54] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys i just installed nvidia driver, but the thing is that when i go into nvidia x server settings - it doesnt give me the option to set depth to 24, it just gives me 32, which prevents beryl from running correctly - would anyone be able to help ?
[05:54] <genii> Chesney: I found a howto for Edgy if tyou want the link
[05:55] <Chesney> genii, please
[05:55] <Flannel> Robbie_Crash: How much space do you have on the HD for ubuntu?
[05:55] <Chesney> bulmer: got any ideas?
[05:55] <Pelo> Robbie_Crash,  you can also try installing gtkorphan to list orphaned pakcages you can delete
[05:56] <Robbie_Crash> the root partition is 14gb
[05:56] <genii> Chesney: Here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822    referenced from this page: http://www.midnightcheese.com/index.php?p=439
[05:56] <bulmer> Chesney: I always find it difficult anything related to key management, umm i use an open one..and just makes the security in the server/client sides and not at the AP
[05:56] <Robbie_Crash> there's nothing installed that's showing up as unused
[05:56] <Flannel> Robbie_Crash: best way to free up some stuff is check /var/log for runaway log files (probably not any) and do "apt-cache clean" to remove cached debs,
[05:57] <Chesney> bulmer: what would be the appropriate way of connecting to that open ap?
[05:57] <Pelo> Robbie_Crash,  gksu nautilus /root and delete what you don'T need from there
[05:57] <EADG> Must restart irssi
[05:58] <Robbie_Crash> Flannel: clean is an invalid operation
[05:58] <bulmer> Chesney: i use dhclient  to get it connected..DHCP allocated ip addr
[05:58] <Pelo> Robbie_Crash,  were you using your computer as root for everything ?
[05:58] <pavs> anyone tried htop? its really cool, much better than top IMO
[05:58] <Robbie_Crash> I don't use root for anything
[05:58] <Chesney> bulmer: i've only got what comes on the system. I don't really have a way of connecting to the wireless router to get anything done
[05:59] <Joshooa> If I am the only one on my computer, ever, is there really a need to make a Root and Home Partition, or should I just leave it all on one partition?
[05:59] <bulmer> Chesney: whose router is it? yours or the ISP?
[05:59] <floresc77> I have a quick question for someone.  I am currently using the live cd and I am trying to install 6.10.  I have having issues with installing because the resolution is too low, 640x480.  I have tried to reconfigure the xorg.conf and force at least 1024x768 but everytime i restart the xserver it is still at 640x480.  What else should i try?
[05:59] <adonis827> how do you add another admin user?
[05:59] <Robbie_Crash> /var/lib is the only really really big thing at 8+GB
[05:59] <Chesney> bulmer: its mine. and I can lug the pc up the stairs take all the other crap with me as well. but...thats quite a bit of work.
[06:00] <Chesney> bulmer: i've got this pc running windows/Ubuntu duel boot
[06:00] <Pelo> floresc77, when you run the live cd your changes don'T get saved
[06:00] <Pelo> floresc77,  try using the alternate installed cd , it is txt based
[06:00] <bulmer> Chesney: am surpised you dont have access to the webpage of your AP..which model is the router/AP ?
[06:01] <floresc77> yeah, i know that. I am just restarting the xserver by ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:01] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys i just installed nvidia driver, but the thing is that when i go into nvidia x server settings - it doesnt give me the option to set depth to 24, it just gives me 32, which prevents beryl from running correctly - would anyone be able to help ?
[06:01] <floresc77> it saves it in ram right?
[06:01] <Chesney> bulmer: I do have access to the AP's configuration I was just saying, getting the PC to the AP to plug it in via ethernet, would take a long time.
[06:01] <Pelo> floresc77,  might be a refresh rate issue
[06:02] <Chesney> bulmer: I just, this card and chipset is supported right out of the box, so I know I'M the problem.
[06:02] <Evan_> bomb
[06:02] <bulmer> Chesney: but thats the easiest way to configure it
[06:02] <shmeelAway> denis_on_ubuntu i think you have to go edit xconf itself and change default setting to 24
[06:02] <adonis827> hello :)
[06:02] <adonis827> how do you add a new admin user?
[06:02] <bulmer> Chesney you have a fear of neighbors using your bandwidth?
[06:02] <Evan_> is there anyway to get 1440x900 using the Ubuntu "Live" CD?
[06:03] <Evan_> without installing it
[06:03] <Evan_> I only get 1024x768
[06:03] <Robbie_Crash> yeah, /var/lib is 8.1GB the rest of the stuff on root is all under 100MB aside from /lib which is 185mb
[06:03] <widoooo> whh shiti nv-modul
[06:03] <widoooo> nv-driver
[06:03] <Chesney> bulmer: no, i've got Mac Filtering on.
[06:03] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:03] <widoooo> no 16:9
[06:03] <Chesney> bulmer: and if they can figure out one of the 2 macs on the list to spoof. Then more power to them.
[06:03] <widoooo> is the guy who want stop x there??
[06:03] <floresc77> if its an issue with the refresh rate, will i have the same issues with 6.10 fully installed?
[06:03] <bulmer> Chesney: there you go, so configure your router to be more open, to make it easier for your wifi to connect
[06:04] <FlavourFlav> i have a grub issue, i need to add another drive to my pc, but when i connect it i get an error 17, any thoughts? i have an ide drive (hda , drive 0 on grub's device map), and a sata drive (sda , drive 1 in devices.map). thanks
[06:04] <Evan_> no 16:10 resolutions?
[06:04] <widoooo> 16:9
[06:04] <widoooo> 1280x720
[06:04] <Evan_> whatev
[06:04] <Evan_> i only get 1024x768
[06:04] <widoooo> tryed with Xorg -configure
[06:04] <widoooo> dpkg-reconfigure
[06:04] <Evan_> my monitor wants 1440x900
[06:04] <widoooo> and deleting xorg.conf and set it
[06:04] <Chesney> bulmer: I'll do that. But getting the dang thing to connect. Should just be as simple as sudo iwconfig essid {sitename} key open mode managed?
[06:04] <genii> adonis827: sudo useradd -G admin <username>
[06:04] <nalpha> guys... why  i can't ping to my own network ( my > switch > wireless > switch > client2 ) while the others can.. ( client1 > switch > wireless > switch > client2) my & client1 in the same switch?? anyone can help...
[06:05] <bulmer> Chesney yeah..its about that easy
[06:05] <widoooo> Evan_: i think i saw such resolutions
[06:05] <widoooo> with the nv driver
[06:05] <Chesney> bulmer: alright man. Thanks for the help.
[06:05] <Chesney> nalpha: what?
[06:05] <Evan_> ok, so it needs drivers then
[06:06] <Evan_> i was just booting from the cd
[06:06] <nalpha> Chesney yup?
[06:06] <bulmer> Chesney: np
[06:06] <nalpha> Chesney: the situation is like that
[06:07] <cuteseal> hello eveyrone
[06:07] <widoooo> the feisty installer is not very stable??
[06:07] <widoooo> the install app i mean??
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> widoooo, worked pretty well for me.  no problems at all actually.
[06:08] <cuteseal> i'm running feisty - is there a problem with aac (m4a) support with gstreamer?
[06:08] <widoooo> the amd64 version??
[06:08] <widoooo> yes i agee i did load some sw-raid and lvm stuff but should that broke it??
[06:09] <cuteseal> i try to play a file and then the automatic codec installer installs gstreamer-bad or something or rather, but after that just gives errors when i try to play the file
[06:09] <tritium> cuteseal: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1
[06:09] <megafauna> hi, how do I install amarok 1.4.5 (not in synaptic which is only up to 1.4.3)
[06:09] <cuteseal> oh really?
[06:09] <cuteseal> cool thx...
[06:09] <peepsalot> when is the official Feisty release date?
[06:09] <cuteseal> 19 apr i think
[06:10] <peepsalot> ok, thanks
[06:13] <llama32> megafauna: if synaptic/apt only has an old version, or you might have to download amarok yourself from it's website and follow the instructions there
[06:13] <sirgib> Hi, I am trying to install some packages using apt-get, but the jp.archive.ubuntu.com appears to be down.  Even after editing sources.list for aptitude, apt-get still trys reading from the jp mirror.  How do I solve this?  Thanks
[06:14] <Gumby> sirgib: after ediiting the file did you run sudo apt-get update?
[06:14] <llama32> sirgib, apt-get update?
[06:14] <llama32> heh too slow :)
[06:14] <profXavier> anyone have luck with RealPlayer?
[06:14] <sirgib> Gumby, yes i did that
[06:14] <sirgib> but even the update trys connecting to the jp mirror
[06:14] <Gumby> sirgib: are they commented out in the sources.list file?
[06:15] <TooR4u> hi
[06:15] <sirgib> yes, I replaced the file with the one on the ubuntu wiki
[06:15] <introubleneedhe1> hey
[06:15] <profXavier> or is there an ubuntu media channel?
[06:15] <introubleneedhe1> I need help
[06:15] <sicutdeux> OMG so many people
[06:15] <sicutdeux> some can help me over here
[06:15] <profXavier> always is
[06:15] <sirgib> Err http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg
[06:15] <sirgib>   Could not connect to jp.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:15] <Gumby> sirgib: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and then paste it to http://rafb.net/paste and then paste the URL back here
[06:15] <profXavier> cannot help if you dont ask
[06:16] <introubleneedhe1> ok
[06:16] <introubleneedhe1> I crashed X
[06:16] <sirgib> ok gumby, 2 secs
[06:16] <megafauna> llama32: Hi, I have downloaded it but can't install it yet.
[06:16] <sicutdeux> i have a problem with gtk, it doesnt show any text on applications like dillo and sylpheed
[06:16] <Gumby> sirgib: actually, just do this.  grep efgy-updates /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <sicutdeux> gtk1.2
[06:16] <sicutdeux> gtk2 works perfect (tested in firefox2)
[06:17] <introubleneedhe1> after installling the Nvidia driver and restarting I get error "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module"
[06:17] <sicutdeux> it was working well, but now, it doesnt shoy any text labels
[06:17] <sicutdeux> any idea?
[06:17] <sirgib> Gumby, http://rafb.net/p/itL2IN43.html
[06:18] <introubleneedhe1> I tired modprobe nvidia and this does not work, the window after stopping then starting gdm is still present
[06:18] <wolferine> anyone have RealPlayer working, or something I can use as a substitute?
[06:18] <Chesney> bulmer: i'm still getting an access point: not-associated when I do iwconfig wlan0
[06:18] <sirgib> Gumby, I'm still running the update, it is downloading some files, but it still keeps reporting errors with the jp mirror
[06:18] <Gumby> sirgib: what command are you using
[06:18] <sirgib> Gumby, sudo aptitude update
[06:19] <Gumby> sirgib: do sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <sirgib> should i cancel the existing update?
[06:19] <Gumby> up to you.
[06:19] <Ubuntu_NVidia> is there a way I can switch the shell environment to hard drive ubuntu, from Live CD Ubuntu?
[06:19] <bulmer> Chesney: you have opened it? ie no wep or wpa?
[06:19] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: yes, use chroot
[06:20] <sicutdeux> anyone?
[06:20] <sirgib> Gumby, 98%, i'll wait ;)
[06:20] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: could you please show me an example?
[06:20] <Gumby> !chroot
[06:20] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:20] <wolferine> anyone have RealPlayer working, or something I can use as a substitute?
[06:20] <Chesney> bulmer: no encryption of any kind, just mac filtering. and i use sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid {mysiteid} key open mode managed
[06:20] <Chesney> and
[06:20] <floresc77> anyone ever use Super Grub Disk?
[06:21] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: disregard that
[06:21] <robby> hey anyone know how to get a satalite m105 wireless card to work in ubuntu?
[06:21] <Ubuntu_NVidia> ok
[06:21] <Ubuntu_NVidia> closed
[06:21] <bulmer> Chesney: you have configured your router to be opened right? not via those command line?
[06:21] <Chesney> it doesnt say anything, but when I do sudo iwconfig wlan0 to see what they settings are it sees the AP, it recognizes the signal strength but does not associate with the access point
[06:22] <[Tuxedo] > !beryl
[06:22] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:22] <Chesney> bulmer: yes I logged into the AP prior to booting Ubuntu and turned WEP off
[06:22] <bulmer> Chesney: what is the signal strength like?
[06:22] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: .....
[06:22] <Gumby>  1) mount /dev/hdXx /mount/point 2) mount -t proc none /mount/point/proc 3) mount -t none /dev /mount/point/dev -o bind 4) chroot /mount/point
[06:22] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: ?
[06:22] <Chesney> bulmer 91%
[06:23] <bulmer> Chesney: and you are sure you jot down the mac address of your wifi nic and entered it on your mac filter?
[06:23] <Gumby> before you reboot dont forget to type exit (to get out of the chrooted shell) and then do umount /mount/point/dev and umount /mount/point
[06:23] <bulmer> Chesney maybe you can turn off any filtering just for kicks to get it connected
[06:23] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: I assume you can follow what /mount/point means and /dev/hdxX
[06:23] <Chesney> bulmer: positive, i'm using the same machine, same card, same AP, just booted into windows right now.
[06:24] <[Tuxedo] > Anyone good with getting ubuntu to recognize ATi cards?
[06:24] <sirgib> Gumby, running sudo apt-get update now
[06:24] <bulmer> Chesney: am out of ideas for now..let me ponder a lil bit
[06:24] <robby> can i get a walkthru of how to get my wireless card to work? i have a satalite m105
[06:25] <sirgib> Gumby, its trying to connect to the jp mirrora gain
[06:25] <Gumby> sirgib: great.  if you still have issues check to see that you dont have files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:25] <Chesney> bulmer: alrighty i'm gonna try one thing I got off the forums and if that doesnt work....I got 150 feet of un-terminated cat-5 around here somewhere, I can do that if i absolutley need to.
[06:25] <bulmer> Chesney: can you try this... /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:25] <sirgib> ok, ill check that directory
[06:26] <robby> can i get a walkthru of how to get my wireless card to work? i have a satalite m105
[06:26] <[Tuxedo] > Anyone good with getting ubuntu to recognize ATi cards?
[06:26] <robby> i need the very basics of it
[06:26] <sirgib> Gumby, found the problem ;)
[06:26] <robby> i have no clue where to even start
[06:26] <robby> i just installed linux for the first time today
[06:27] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: stop 4) chroot /mount/point is a general location, I haven't a clue why I would do this but I thank you for your advice and will try it right now
[06:27] <robby> and i got rid of windows completly
[06:27] <CientificoLoco> how do I install MSN Messenger Audio Codec?
[06:27] <robby> anyone?
[06:27] <bulmer> Chesney if that does not get it connected, you can also manually try dhclient  and see if it can acquire the ip addr from your AP
[06:27] <Ubuntu_NVidia> [Tuxedo] : I had a ATI card uptill today, just bought Nvidia
[06:27] <sirgib> Gumby, it's working.  Many thanks for your help
[06:28] <Chesney> bulmer: mm alright
[06:28] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: you said you wanted a shell environment with your ubuntu drive.  thats how you'd do it.  if you just want to edit a few files then all you need to do is mount the hard drive
[06:28] <ax7> hi
[06:28] <cypher1> robby, please see the message from ubotu
[06:28] <Gumby> sirgib: good to hear
[06:28] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: Precisely, to test the X environment will require doing both
[06:28] <Xeper> Hey everyone, I have a question... I'm downloading the Ubuntu AMD64 disc now, and the problem I had with the Gentoo install is that it wouldn't support my SATA devices during install.  Will I also run into this problem with the Ubuntu install?  Bot my HDD and my DVD RAM drive are SATA.
[06:28] <Xeper> s/Bot/Both
[06:28] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: you done more than any of my google searches could pertain
[06:29] <Chesney> bulmer: alrighty, gonna give this yet....another go.
[06:29] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: glad to be of help
[06:29] <shatrat> Xeper, it should, unless you rmotherboard has a funny chipset
[06:29] <Chesney> bulmer: I appreciate the help.
[06:29] <Xeper> shatrat: Nah, MSI K9AGM
[06:29] <wolferine> anyone have RealPlayer working, or something I can use as a substitute?
[06:29] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: I'm not quite sure how well it will work with testing X though.  especially if X is already running from a livecd
[06:30] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: good point
[06:30] <Xeper> shatrat: I'm familiar with Gentoo -- will any of the changes be difficult for me to get used to, do you think?
[06:30] <Ubuntu_NVidia> X is broken
[06:30] <Ubuntu_NVidia> lol
[06:30] <shatrat> Xeper, probably not, just !sudo
[06:30] <Xeper> I haven't used Linux for over 2 years (been in Iraq) but...
[06:30] <Xeper> I still remember
[06:30] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: how'd you install the nvidia driver?
[06:30] <shatrat> Xeper, there is no root account, minor difference
[06:30] <ax7> dunno
[06:30] <Xeper> No root account?  Why not?
[06:31] <Xeper> !sudo replaces that?
[06:31] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[06:31] <mhemu> robby, what exactly isn't working
[06:31] <robby> i cant get wireless
[06:31] <robby> or i dont know how
[06:31] <shatrat> Xeper, security.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:32] <bulmer> robby: you have tried any tutorials yet?
[06:32] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: I wanted to try replacing the xorg.conf entry with "vesa" or "nv" from "nvidia" to see if it will do anything.  I installed the nvidia driver by retrieving it from the official site, then running sudo sh nvidiafile.run.  There were no precompiled kernels and it manually created one
[06:32] <robby> yeah i have no clue wha to do with them tho
[06:32] <robby> they confuse me
[06:32] <Ubuntu_NVidia> I can give you my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log if you like to see if there is anything more to check
[06:32] <iratsu__> what command tells you what process is using a device?
[06:32] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: ah.  I'm pretty sure ubuntu has packages for ATI and Nvidia drivers in its universe repos....
[06:33] <Gumby> !nvidia
[06:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:33] <bulmer> robby well cant help you if you dont attempt to try
[06:33] <Xeper> shatrat: That's a great idea... never thought of it like that
[06:33] <robby> i am trying but i dont know where to input any of the commands
[06:33] <Xeper> shatrat:  Seems a whole lot more user friendly.
[06:34] <robby> im a complete newb
[06:34] <shatrat> Xeper, that's the idea behind most ubuntu features.
[06:34] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: it might be easier for you to just follow the ubuntu wiki howto.  you could post yor xorg if you like though. I could have a quick look
[06:34] <bulmer> robby: then perhaps you need to try with a wired connection first before the wireless stuff
[06:34] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: is there anyway to revert the X gdm configuration and run the hard drive Ubuntu even half-assed so I can retry the inta;;ation with this newly found howto?
[06:34] <Xeper> shatrat: I apologize for the ignorance, but I am totally new to this.  Ubuntu is based upon Debian, right?  So it uses apt-get?
[06:35] <Ubuntu_NVidia> even the BACKUP does not work
[06:35] <Xeper> shatrat: And, my favorite feature about Gentoo was Emerge, because it got all the dependencies for me.  Will Ubuntu be able to do that too?
[06:35] <Ubuntu_NVidia> will posting the file to the room boot me out?
[06:35] <cypher1> Xeper, yep
[06:35] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: I'd just edit the xorg.conf back to its original settings (just change the driver back to nv most likely) and then reboot
[06:35] <cypher1> !pastebin > Ubuntu_NVidia
[06:35] <Gumby> Ubugtu: probably yes.  paste to a pastebin.  http://rafb.net/paste
[06:35] <Gumby> sorry, Ubuntu_NVidia
[06:35] <shatrat> Xeper, yes, apt manages dependencies very well, and you can find most software you could want in repositories.
[06:36] <shatrat> Xeper, youll just have to try it.  There's really not much explaining needed if youve used linux before.  I switched from SuSE and had no problems figuring anything out.
[06:37] <Gumby> Xeper: imho, apt is much better than emerge.
[06:37] <Gumby> Xeper: emerge will allow you to break your system quite easily, apt doesnt.
[06:37] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: see PM
[06:37] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: I dont see pm's from not registered users :)
[06:38] <Artemis3> Gumby, try dist upgrades ;)
[06:38] <Chesney> bulmer: hey another quick question. I'm new to the debian based systems. is a .deb file a apt-get type of package?
[06:38] <Gumby> Artemis3: I do them all the time :)
[06:38] <cypher1> Chesney, yep
[06:38] <Gumby> Artemis3: emerge lets you unintstall things no matter if its a dependancy or not.
[06:38] <Artemis3> apt-get is simply a program to install, remove those .deb packages
[06:39] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: the crash log: http://rafb.net/p/zT8Chi50.html and the xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/2DKMRY83.html
[06:39] <Xeper> Great... I'm pretty excited to get this up and running :)
[06:39] <Xeper> Heard nothing but positive things about this distro
[06:39] <Artemis3> ok its a little more intelligent as it solves dependencies and such
[06:40] <False_Courage> Anybody running UnrealIRCD on ubuntu?
[06:40] <bulmer> Chesney yes
[06:40] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: did your filter prevent the links from appearing in the room for you?
[06:40] <[Tuxedo] > Can anyone help with getting Ubuntu to recognize an ATi Radeon 9000 Pro?
[06:41] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: nope, the links work fine.  and its not really "my" filter.  Its a freenode thing :)  Ive just never bothered to change it from its default
[06:43] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: your xorg.conf looks fine to me.
[06:43] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: I know, the thing is, even using the backup conf which was basically the original version, generates the same error
[06:43] <Ubuntu_NVidia> see: error log
[06:44] <Gumby> says it cant find a usuable screen... it might need a BusID in the device section for the card
[06:45] <Gumby> "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure(EE) NVIDIA(0):     that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and(EE) NVIDIA(0):     that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly. (EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please consult the NVIDIA README for details."
[06:45] <Gumby> Ubugtu: is the log from when you tried with the nvidia driver or with the old xorg.conf?
[06:45] <Gumby> sorry, Ubuntu_NVidia
[06:46] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: the log is from when I tried with the nvidia driver
[06:46] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: the two links I showed you are in conjunction with each other
[06:46] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: I am betting that the nvidia driver wasnt loaded...
[06:46] <CientificoLoco> how do I install MSN Messenger Audio Codec?
[06:47] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: is the partition with ubuntu on it mounted right now?
[06:47] <Gumby> (and if so where?)
[06:47] <CientificoLoco> how do I install MSN Messenger Audio Codec?
[06:47] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: yes
[06:47] <xander> hey, ive got a question for someone who has a bit of time, whats the deal with Gnome/GTK apps? Can I run them under KDE?
[06:48] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: where is it mounted?
[06:48] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: mounted at /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Ubuntu/
[06:48] <Xeper> xander: Of course
[06:48] <Xeper> xander: Just fire them up, they'll run.
[06:48] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: runnung on a liveCD and I mounted the partition sda2 to that directory
[06:48] <xander> alright, so then whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[06:48] <drcode> hi all
[06:48] <xander> different GUIs, anything else?
[06:49] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: ok.  edit /home/ubuntu/Desktop/Ubuntu/etc/modules in that file add nvidia to the end of the file
[06:49] <Ubuntu_NVidia> xander: one is KDE and one is GNOME
[06:49] <Xeper> xander: Ubuntu uses GNOME by default, Kubuntu uses KDE.
[06:49] <xander> will all graphical apps run the same under either one?
[06:49] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: I am taking a wild guess and guessing its not there :)
[06:49] <xander> I hear something about how GTK runs only under gnome, is that true?
[06:49] <nekoz> eh
[06:49] <Xeper> xander: In my experience K apps are slower when not run in K, because they depend on a bunch of other crap running as well
[06:49] <Gumby> xander: nonsense
[06:49] <crazy_bus> how come when I make a iso in devede for a 4.7gb its only 2.3gb?
[06:49] <nekoz> so is ubuntu packages ready for that double early daylight savings thing?
[06:50] <nekoz> date: invalid date `PST'
[06:50] <nekoz> sh: PST: command not found
[06:50] <nekoz> Sun Mar 11 22:50:14 PDT 2007
[06:50] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: it was not there, I added it, then rebooted, and had the same error.  Then I ran out of ideas and tried coming here :)
[06:50] <drcode> I am looking p2p tv . any idea?
[06:50] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: hrm...
[06:50] <kyle__> ntoo
[06:50] <xander> so is there any problems at all running K/GTK apps under their opposite GUI?
[06:51] <xander> I'm not sure why, but I thought you coulden't mix/match em
[06:51] <Gumby> Ubuntu_NVidia: what did you change the xorg.conf to once you tried to fix it?
[06:51] <Gumby> xander: works fine :)  I'm in gnome right now running ktorrent and knetworkmanager
[06:52] <EnsignRedshirt> xander: I regularly run kile and k3b in under gnome.  They work fine.  If you run them from the command line, they tend to print error messages about missing this and that (sorry, I don't recall exactly what), but the errors seem harmless.
[06:52] <Gumby> xander: and when in kde I use xchat and gaim without issue (both gtk apps)
[06:52] <EnsignRedshirt> s/in under/under/
[06:52] <Rooy> xander: nand i have xfce's thunar running on gnome as well
[06:52] <xander> okay,cool
[06:52] <xander> so then is there no real difference between KDE/Gnome except personal prefrence?
[06:53] <Ubuntu_NVidia> Gumby: I tried the default backup, did not work, put it back to nvidia installed xorg.conf, did not work, wanted to change the driver entry to "vesa" or "nv" to see if it would do anything using a shell without restarting but did not do it yet
[06:53] <Gumby> xander: there are lots of differences.  But yes, they are all mostly personal preference
[06:53] <xander> any major differences I should maybe be aware of?
[06:54] <Gumby> xander: nothing crazy I can think of.  I first used gnome, then KDE, now I am back to gnome.  hehe.  KDE has more eye candy be default
[06:54] <xander> alright, cool
[06:55] <xander> so could i switch back and forth from KDE to Gnome without any issues?
[06:55] <xander> or do the GUIs keep certain settings/information to themselves?
[06:55] <[Tuxedo] > Can anyone help getting an ATI card recognized?
[06:55] <spider_> where can I get directions to install flash9?
[06:56] <eck> xander: switching back and forth would not present a big problem
[06:56] <Ubuntu_NVidia> hello?
[06:56] <Madpilot> ubotu, flash | spider_
[06:56] <ubotu> spider_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:56] <Ubuntu_NVidia> is anyone here?
[06:56] <Gumby> xander: nope, no issues
[06:56] <Gumby> nope, we all left
[06:56] <Whiz2> anyone here know how to configure lighttpd, and php5-cgi? I followed intructions found on google, but now my web server won't work at all. This was after someone in here suggested I google it
[06:56] <xander> cool
[06:57] <xander> and one last question, what should I know before buying a laptop I plan to put linux on?
[06:57] <xander> wireless chipsets, graphic cards, etc
[06:57] <eck> xander: if you can, try to get intel graphics and wireless
[06:57] <Gumby> xander: seems that most issues crop up with wifi and graphics
[06:57] <introubleneedhel> Gumby: did you say anything? my conection slowed to nothing
[06:57] <JHSands> !ntfs
[06:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:57] <reyezzo> hello
[06:57] <JHSands> !ntfs-3g
[06:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> xander: Take a look at System76.  They sell laptops with Ubuntu installed, and everything configured and working.
[06:58] <reyezzo> how do i merge two partitions?
[06:58] <xander> ah, i just googled and found http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[06:58] <xander> alright, i'll check that out too
[06:58] <eck> intel graphics and wireless both have open source linux drives
[06:58] <Gumby> Ubuntu_Nvidia: I suggested reverting the file back to its original state and rebooting.  I sorta dont have enoug time to delve deeper into the problem
[06:58] <xander> thanks a bunch guys, i'm out
[06:58] <spider_> thanks for flash9 info
[06:58] <xander> have a good night!
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> xander: Check the forum for System76.
[06:58] <xander> alright, will do
[06:58] <Ubuntu_Nvidia> Gumby: its ok, I will re-install, just an F.Y.I. though, I already did that too :)
[06:58] <xander> thanks again!
[06:58] <JHSands> has anyone installed ntfs-3g on fiesty ?
[06:58] <Whiz2> I need help
[06:59] <Pie-rate> there're 2 instances of netstat with "zombie" status in gnome-system-monitor. Why?
[06:59] <Gumby> Ubuntu_Nvidia: I didnt mean a full reinstall.  Just replace the old xorg.conf and dont forget to also remove nvidia from /etc/modules
[06:59] <genbvo> anyone know how do i find modules that are running
[06:59] <genbvo> modprobe -l?
[06:59] <Gumby> genbvo: lsmod
[06:59] <genbvo> i think that shows all
[06:59] <genbvo> ah
[06:59] <JHSands> I am very very happy with Ubuntu! I purchased an Acer AST-180 from best buy a week ago and the live cd loads all of the drivers... even the sound and video! IMPRESSIVE!!!
[07:00] <JHSands> thank you everyone!
[07:00] <genbvo> Gumby: i remmber now thanks
[07:00] <Ubuntu_Nvidia> Gumby: this is what I have tried, it is not successful, as we previously troubleshooted :)
[07:00] <eck> Whiz2: if you really want to use lighttpd that is fine, but a lot more people know apache, and apache + mod_php will be much faster
[07:00] <Gumby> Ubuntu_Nvidia: hrm.... seems strange
[07:00] <Whiz2> eck: ok how do i replace lighttpd with that? I have no idea what I'm doing
[07:00] <eck> just a thought -- setting up apache + php is like two steps in ubuntu
[07:01] <Ubuntu_Nvidia> Gumby: next time I will use the resource you pointed me too
[07:01] <Whiz2> also i will need to change apache so that my website directory is the same as the one used in lighttpd
[07:01] <eck> Whiz2: just install apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5
[07:01] <[Tuxedo] > Can anyone help getting an ATI card recognized?
[07:01] <eck> when you start up apache it will have mod_php loaded
[07:01] <Whiz2> i assume I need to uninstall lighttpd, and php5-cgi?
[07:01] <eck> Whiz2: you can keep them if you like
[07:01] <ndowens> how does ubuntu's "development" release compare to debian unstable release?
[07:02] <eck> Whiz2: i think you can only have one of apache and lighttpd running at once though
[07:02] <Ubuntu_Nvidia> Gumby: I mean, err, after re-install.  I once reinstalled Fedora 5 times in a day.  At least with Ubuntu its more like once a day
[07:02] <Whiz2> won't lighttpd, and apache interfere with each other?
[07:02] <eck> because they will both want to bind on port 80
[07:02] <Whiz2> ok
[07:02] <Gumby> Ubuntu_Nvidia: good luck.  if we had more time I'm sure we could get it but I just dont
[07:02] <Whiz2> I'm binding to a different port
[07:02] <Whiz2> 81
[07:02] <eck> ok, well the only conflict would be if they wanted to use the same port
[07:02] <Whiz2> so i will need to change that in apache as well
[07:03] <bones> anyone have Repositories
[07:03] <ndowens> how does ubuntu's development release compare to debian unstable, i am curious
[07:04] <Whiz2> eck: gimme a few to uninstall theold, and install the new...
[07:04] <eck> Whiz2: are you trying to do virtual hosts?
[07:04] <Xeper> Is 6.10 "stable", for all intents and purposes?
[07:04] <Whiz2> what is a virtual host?
[07:04] <Whiz2> <-- total newbie to this
[07:04] <Xeper> I know it's not exactly recommended, but it's not entirely broken like E17 was a few years ago, is it?
[07:04] <eck> Whiz2: it is if you want subdomains, like example.com, mail.example.com, wiki.example.com and so forth
[07:04] <eck> virtual hosts let you run them all on one machine
[07:05] <eck> (traditionally each would run on a separate server)
[07:05] <Gumby> Xeper: 6.10 (edgy) is the latest stable release
[07:05] <Whiz2> I'm using a redirect from an off network site which goes straight to my IP address forwarded to my server
[07:05] <nalpha> guys anyone can explain me about this (
[07:05] <nalpha> admin@lserver:~$ route
[07:05] <nalpha> Kernel IP routing table
[07:05] <nalpha> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[07:05] <nalpha> <IP_ADDRESS>  *               <IP_ADDRESS> U     0      0        0 eth0
[07:05] <nalpha> localnet        *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth1
[07:05] <nalpha> default         <IP_ADDRESS>  <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[07:06] <Xeper> Sorry about that
[07:06] <Xeper> Did someone answer that question?
[07:06] <Whiz2> technically, my web server's address is my internet IP address with port 81
[07:06] <eck> Whiz2: ok, then you can't do it
[07:06] <Whiz2> Why not? my site worked fine before
[07:06] <eck> Whiz2: you just need a line in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf that reads "Listen 81"
[07:06] <Gumby> ndowens: I am not 100% sure about this, but Ive been told that the testing in ubuntu is less rigorous than debian
[07:06] <Gumby> Xeper: 6.10 (edgy) is the latest stable release
[07:06] <eck> Whiz2: err, you can't have vitual hosts
[07:06] <Whiz2> ok
[07:07] <Whiz2> lighttpd failed to uninjstall, because it couldn't stop the server
[07:07] <ndowens> i know on some site, it said that debian unstable is more stable than ubuntu's development version
[07:07] <kaushal> Hi
[07:07] <eck> and a line that says "DocumentRoot /path/to/your/website"
[07:07] <kaushal> 530 This FTP server is anonymous only.
[07:07] <eck> Whiz2: check if it is running with ps
[07:07] <kaushal> I have installed vsftpd
[07:07] <eck> e.g. ps -ef | grep httpd
[07:08] <CientificoLoco> how do I install MSN Messenger Audio Codec?
[07:08] <marko> anyone wanna play atlantik?
[07:08] <kaushal> I am not able to login to vsftpd server
[07:08] <eck> kaushal: you need to edit /etc/vsftpd.conf and restart vsftpd
[07:08] <Gumby> ndowens: Ive been using ubuntu for about a year now and it seems fairly stable to me.  Its a tradeoff, the faster you get new package releases the more you risk getting instability or security issues.  I think ubuntu does a fairly decent job of balancing the btwo
[07:08] <kaushal> Thanks eck
[07:08] <Xeper> Gumby: Sweet, thanks.  I was confused with the mention of 6.06
[07:08] <Gumby> Xeper: 6.06 is dapper, the previous stable release
[07:09] <Gumby> Xeper: just stay away from feisty for now and you will be ok :)
[07:09] <Xeper> Gumby: Ahh.  New to Ubuntu, so sorry for the stupid questions :P
[07:09] <ndowens> Gumby: yea right now i am on debian unstable, and just curious
[07:09] <Whiz2> eck: i get the following as an answer: root     4849  4756  0 02:08 pts/0   00:00:00 greg lighttpd
[07:09] <Xeper> Gumby: How long has 6.10 been out?
[07:09] <Gumby> Xeper: there are no stupid questions.  only stupid answers :)  (and people that dont google)
[07:09] <eck> Whiz2: the command is 'grep' :- )
[07:09] <meborc> 6.10 - 2006/10
[07:09] <Rooy> how do i know what does make accept as target in a particular source directory?
[07:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Xeper: "6.10" == "2006, October"
[07:10] <Whiz2> so something like gregp lighttpd?
[07:10] <Whiz2> grep*
[07:10] <Rooy> like for python there's make test, but not for eg gaim
[07:10] <Gumby> ndowens: debian unstable has worked well for me in the past.
[07:10] <eck> yeah, you typed in 'greg'
[07:10] <ndowens> Gumby: yep so far i haven't hit a snag b/c of debian's fault, i had to fix something but it was my fault in a way
[07:11] <Whiz2> lol ok, but I typed it correctly on the command line
[07:11] <Gumby> CientificoLoco: not even sure what a MSN Messenge audio codec is
[07:11] <Xeper> EnsignRedshirt: Ah, is that how it works?  Interesting and simple way of keeping up with versions
[07:11] <Gumby> CientificoLoco: what is it and why do you feel you need it
[07:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Xeper: Yup.  The next release will be 7.04.
[07:11] <Whiz2> eck: did that tell you whether it's running ps?
[07:11] <ndowens> Gumby: which most likely i will stay with debian, but i am just being curious and not bashing ubuntu if anyone thinks that
[07:11] <eck> if you only get the grep line then it is not running
[07:12] <odix> anyone know where the config file for powershell is? I enabled shadowing and now it crashes
[07:12] <odix> uninstalled and reinstalled and still crashes
[07:12] <CientificoLoco> Gumby, I have installed MErcury as MSN server, so when a contac send me a voice message it comes to my laptop like .mov and it need to be played MSN codec...
[07:12] <kaushal> eck
[07:12] <eck> i guess you can restart your machine, i'm not sure how to manually stop lighttpd
[07:12] <kaushal> I did comment
[07:12] <Whiz2> ok I'll uninstall php5-cgi then reboot to see what happens
[07:12] <Gumby> ndowens: the package repos in ubuntu are still better IMHO.  Lots of packages available in multiverse and universe that arent available in debian repos.
[07:12] <Xeper> EnsignRedshirt: So should I wait to do my install?  Is there an easy way to upgrade?
[07:13] <cdistler> hi, im pretty new to ubuntu and ive been reading forums and researching but still cant do what i know is a very basic thing: to change permissions on an external usb hdd so that i can write to it. all the info ive found is too confusing and assumes that i already know quite a bit more than i do...your help is much appreciated!
[07:13] <kaushal> #anonymous_enable=YES
[07:13] <ndowens> Gumby: like what? wish debian and ubuntu could use each others repos flawlessly, it would be good
[07:13] <kaushal> still I am not able to login
[07:13] <eck> kaushal: you need to turn on local_enable
[07:13] <eck> and set anonymous_enable to NO
[07:13] <kaushal> ok
[07:14] <EnsignRedshirt> xeper: Should you wait? I can't answer that... maybe other folks here have an opinion.  Generally, updating to a new version should be easy.  I upgraded from breezy to dapper, and had only very minor glitches that were easily corrected.
[07:14] <Gumby> ndowens: the multiverse and universe repos include stuff like jvm's, binary drivers, flash, etc that are non-free and/or non GPL.  I dont think debian has an "official" repo for these
[07:14] <Gumby> ndowens: but maybe I am wrong.
[07:15] <Rooy> Gumby: universe is free software all the way
[07:15] <arooni> hey folks......... my microsoft wireless keyboard + mouse works...... but all the f1-f8 keys dont work
[07:15] <arooni> help!
[07:15] <ndowens> Gumby: i have sun-java from the repo in deb
[07:15] <Xeper> EnsignRedshirt: Gotcha... thank you.  Seems the people running this distro like to make things easy for their end users.  That's very welcoming.
[07:15] <ndowens> arooni: don't get MS stuff, they hate linux lol
[07:15] <Gumby> ndowens: java yes, but jvm for things like firefox etc?
[07:15] <Whiz2> ok rebooting the server now...
[07:15] <arooni> ndowens: ok but any suggetions?
[07:15] <ndowens> Gumby: yep i have it
[07:15] <Whiz2> eck: will take about 1-2 mins to reboot the server, so i'll be back with you in a moment...
[07:15] <eck> ok
[07:16] <ndowens> arooni: i have just a 10.00 keyboard from walmart it works perfectly except sleep buttons on it
[07:16] <Whiz2> thank the gods for multiple computers lol
[07:16] <Gumby> ndowens: java may be a poor example. not sure about the others.  for a dirty example /msg dpkg nvidia and then /msg ubotu nvidia and compare the ease of installation in ubuntu compared to debian
[07:17] <ndowens> Gumby: most likely i will stick with unstable, u still use it?
[07:17] <linuxor> HI, Please , Which software let me know what wireless are around me???
[07:18] <Gumby> ndowens: not really no.
[07:18] <ndowens> Gumby: o
[07:18] <Gumby> I think maybe on my gateway.  I think its still stable though
[07:18] <Rooy> linuxor: you mean wireless network?
[07:18] <lkthomas> guys, for old machine, it can't support large HDD such as 120GB one, how could I fix that ?
[07:18] <linuxor> Rooy: yes friend
[07:19] <Rooy> linuxor: there's iwlist, command "iwlist <interface name> scan
[07:19] <eck> lkthomas: get a new machine :-)
[07:19] <lkthomas> eck, other than that ?
[07:19] <Gumby> lkthomas: you can try a bios update
[07:19] <Whiz2> eck: i'm back up... what's the best way to proceed? Command line, or gui?
[07:19] <lkthomas> Gumby, that machine already out of production, so no bios update available
[07:20] <cdistler> how do i change permissions on an external hdd so that i can write to it??
[07:20] <eck> lkthomas: you might be out of luck if the machine is just too old
[07:20] <lkthomas> eck, I don't think that is the answer, I have heard something about emulation
[07:20] <eck> Whiz2: is apache running?
[07:21] <linuxor> Rooy : i don't want by command-lines
[07:21] <Whiz2> eck: not sure. how do I find out?
[07:21] <JHSands> whiz2: ps -ax | grep httpd
[07:22] <Rooy> linuxor: i don't know anything else, may well be other do
[07:22] <eck> Whiz2, JHSands: on ubuntu the binary is called apache2, not httpd
[07:22] <linuxor> Rooy : thx man, too kind , ^_^
[07:22] <JHSands> sorry ecgw
[07:22] <JHSands> eck*
[07:23] <Rooy> linuxor: you're welcome, and you really should welcom the commandline :)
[07:23] <Whiz2> eck: looks like lighttpd didn't even uninstall at all... hang on while I see if apache is running...
[07:24] <linuxor> Rooy : I'll do it
[07:24] <jenda_> My desktop is connected to my router with a static IP... my lappy with DHCP... each is able to reach the internet and ping the router... but neither can reach the other (or ping it).
[07:25] <jenda_> Any ideas?
[07:25] <Whiz2> eck: i got an error when using the syntax you provided above. "bad ps syntax"
[07:25] <eck> Whiz2: what was the command you entered?
[07:25] <Whiz2> ps -ax | grep httpd
[07:25] <Rooy> jenda: both of them use ubuntu and have no firewall?
[07:26] <Xeper> Thanks for your help guys.  I'm about to boot up the install CD and get this thing going.
[07:26] <jenda_> Rooy: check
[07:26] <Whiz2> eck: ps -ax | grep httpd
[07:26] <jenda_> Rooy: and it's worked till this morning.
[07:26] <eck> Whiz2: i think you can just ignore it (or use -ef), but you want to be grepping for 'apache2' not 'httpd'
[07:26] <eck> the syntax of ps options is really a mess :-(
[07:26] <jenda_> Rooy: Desktop-Dapper, Lappy-Edgy...
[07:26] <Whiz2> eck: oh ok
[07:27] <eck> i think the correct syntax is ax without the -
[07:27] <Rooy> jenda_: i guessed the router has filtered ping inside the net, but you said it worked before
[07:27] <Whiz2> eck: it's running. i got several lines of response
[07:27] <jenda_> Rooy: yep...
[07:28] <eck> Whiz2: ok, see if you can connect to your site
[07:29] <kaushal> eck : 500 OOPS: cap_set_proc
[07:29] <robby> i have a wired connection going right now
[07:29] <robby> thats what im talking to you on
[07:29] <eck> if you didn't edit any config files, it will be on port 80
[07:29] <kaushal> Login failed
[07:29] <kaushal> Remote system type is Login
[07:29] <Whiz2> eck: didn't go where I expected
[07:30] <Whiz2> eck: but it did something. :-p
[07:30] <eck> kaushal: i am not familiar with that failure, maybe you can google it
[07:30] <atrus> http://syndicated.livejournal.com/xkcd_rss/53874.html?thread=2336882#t2336882
[07:30] <kaushal> ok
[07:30] <atrus> oops, wrong window
[07:30] <[Tuxedo] > Can anyone help getting an ATI card recognized?
[07:30] <eck> Whiz2: did you get the default apache page?
[07:31] <d0lph1n> hi all
[07:31] <Rooy> hi! | d0lph1n
[07:32] <d0lph1n> i had Beryl working a couple min ago, n now it doesn't!
[07:32] <d0lph1n> what a bummer, i was so happy to finally see beryl
[07:33] <Rooy> d0lph1n: how did it stop? everything falls back to normal? or the window border disappeared?
[07:34] <d0lph1n> been awhile since been on IRC | is this PM?
[07:34] <imbecile> undernet
[07:35] <genii> d0lph1n: private msg syntax is   /msg <nick> message here
[07:35] <Rooy> d0lph1n: that was a typo on my part, hi! should be !hi, like so
[07:35] <Rooy> !hi | d0lph1n
[07:35] <ubotu> d0lph1n: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:35] <Whiz2> eck: I got a page that says "Index of /"
[07:35] <eck> Whiz2: ok, add a "DocumentRoot" directive in your httpd.conf
[07:35] <genii> d0lph1n: For private msg to work here you niied to register your current nick on the system
[07:36] <eck> that should be set to the path of your website
[07:36] <eck> e.g. "DocumentRoot /var/www"
[07:36] <Whiz2> eck: just added "DocumentRoot /media/hdc1"
[07:36] <Whiz2> do I need to reboot for it to take effact?
[07:36] <d0lph1n> genii: how to register?
[07:36] <eck> Whiz2: no, run "/etc/init.d/apache2 reload"
[07:36] <genii> !register | d0lph1n
[07:36] <ubotu> d0lph1n: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:36] <eck> i think it will take effect afte that
[07:37] <d0lph1n> !register
[07:37] <robby> anybody know where to get the drivers for a ntel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g) card?
[07:37] <Whiz2> eck: i get the same page... i'll reboot instead.
[07:37] <eck> robby: they are installed by default
[07:38] <eck> Whiz2: you can also replace reload with restart
[07:38] <eck> that would be esentially the same as rebooting
[07:38] <robby> its not working tho so would you mind walking me thru it please?
[07:38] <eck> but a lot faster
[07:38] <workbee> hi, anyone know how to use a .p7b security certificate to connect to a PEAP wireless network?
[07:39] <eck> robby: i have the intel 2200bg which from my understanding is basically the same, and i did not have to configure anything
[07:39] <robby> edk: so should i reboot or what with the ether net cable taken out?
[07:39] <eck> robby: do you see your card in the output of 'iwconfig'
[07:39] <Whiz2> eck: get the folowing as a message: "Could not determin the servers's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName"
[07:39] <robby> nope
[07:40] <robby> eck: nope
[07:40] <Whiz2> and still get the same page from the internet
[07:40] <aum> !backup
[07:40] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:40] <robby> lo, eth0 and sit0 say no wireless extensions
[07:40] <Whiz2> eck: rebooting... is a bit of an old system...
[07:40] <robby> eck:lo, eth0 and sit0 say no wireless extensions
[07:41] <JHSands> !failed to create filesystem
[07:41] <robby> eck: lo, eth0 and sit0 say no wireless extensions
[07:41] <poningru> JHSands: whats wrong?
[07:41] <robby> and eth 1 says unassociated essid:off/any
[07:41] <Whiz2> eck: i'll let you know the results in 1-2 mins
[07:41] <robby> blah blah blah
[07:42] <eck> Whiz2: oh, you need to tell it to listen on all IPs, i'll pastebin something
[07:42] <Whiz2> ok
[07:42] <JHSands> poningru: I am running the "install" and after selecting my partition it tells me "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1(0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[07:43] <Whiz2> eck: i'm using static IP address on the server connected to a router with forwarding enabled for the needed port(s). does that make any difference?
[07:43] <eck> Whiz2: I think if you just set "ServerName <IP_ADDRESS>" (with the correct IP) in httpd.conf it will work
[07:43] <Whiz2> the IP of the server on the network, or the IP of my Internet?
[07:44] <eck> i'm not sure
[07:44] <eck> probably the network
[07:44] <Whiz2> e.g. My server's IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:44] <Whiz2> ok
[07:44] <eck> normally you would have the hostname there, but i think an IP will work as well
[07:44] <Whiz2> ok
[07:45] <d0lph1n> !beryl
[07:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:45] <robby> eck: its not mentioning my card do you know how to get it to register my card?
[07:45] <eck> Whiz2: in any event, if you proxy you internet connection to that machine you should be able to see the page
[07:45] <eck> robby: was there a device that it showed wireless extensions on?
[07:45] <billy> greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[07:45] <robby> eck: eth1 unassociated
[07:46] <Whiz2> eck: I'll let you know what happens when I change the line in the conf file
[07:46] <eck> robby: then your wireless card works :-)
[07:46] <infidel> !beryl
[07:46] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:46] <robby> eck: how can i connect then?
[07:46] <eck> robby: you can use network manager, or use iwconfig/dhclient from the command line
[07:47] <marko> anyone wants to play atlantik or knows where there is a channel that I can ask someone?
[07:47] <robby> eck: permission denied
[07:47] <bullgard1> I believe that every executable Linux file contains a structure which includes three dates and times. What are the names of them in English? 'created', 'changed' and 'accessed'?
[07:47] <eck> robby: you need to use sudo in front of whatever command you were executing
[07:48] <eck> bullgard1: i think every file has a creation date (that you see in ls) and an acces time (called an 'atime')
[07:48] <robby> eck: then what?
[07:48] <eck> robby: i don't know what command you were executing, i couldn't tell you
[07:48] <robby> eck: dhclient
[07:48] <huckster> i know i have bittorrent but I can't find it...
[07:48] <aozaki> anyone here use scim?
[07:49] <robby> eck: i enter my password then it shows all kinds of info that i dont understand
[07:49] <kaushal> eck : I am able to login
[07:49] <kaushal> now
[07:49] <kaushal> but not able to upload
[07:49] <kaushal> it gives me 550 error
[07:49] <eck> robby: you need to associate the wireless card and then run 'sudo dhclient'
[07:49] <robby> eck: how do i do that?
[07:49] <eck> kaushal: you need to turn on upload, it is near the top of vsftpd.conf
[07:49] <kaushal> ok
[07:50] <arooni> hey folks......... my microsoft wireless keyboard + mouse works...... but all the f1-f8 keys dont work
[07:50] <aum> !backup
[07:50] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:50] <eck> robby: install network-manager in gnome, or read the man page for iwconfig
[07:50] <bullgard1> eck: I believe that there are three times. Maybe 'atime', 'ctime' and what else?
[07:51] <eck> bullgard1: i guess you are right, in the man page for 'ls' it says that there are atime, access,  use, ctime or status
[07:51] <Whiz2> eck: i get the same place, and in that place is another directory called "apache2-default"
[07:52] <bullgard1> eck: I will read 'man ls'.
[07:52] <eck> i think atime is access time and ctime is creation time, i am not sure what the others mean
[07:52] <eck> bullgard1: read the description of the '--time' option
[07:52] <kaushal> eck : anon_upload_enable=YES
[07:53] <kaushal> I have added this line
[07:53] <eck> Whiz2: did you change the DocumentRoot?
[07:53] <kaushal> still it does not work
[07:53] <eck> kaushal: that allows anonymous users to upload
[07:53] <RYUTAZ1> "EasyUbuntu" not support Feisty Fawn ...
[07:53] <RYUTAZ1> "EasyUbuntu" not support Feisty Fawn ...
[07:53] <robby> eck: the man age isnt helping
[07:53] <eck> i think you just want upload_enable=YES
[07:53] <RYUTAZ1> "EasyUbuntu" not support Feisty Fawn ...
[07:53] <RYUTAZ1> T     T
[07:53] <kaushal> ok
[07:53] <eck> robby: wep or no?
[07:53] <cafuego_> RYUTAZ1: Please stop spamming
[07:53] <robby> eck: what do you mean?
[07:53] <RYUTAZ1> omm....
[07:53] <genii> geez enough with the easybuntu please
[07:53] <yvone> hola
[07:53] <eck> robby: are you using wep?
[07:54] <robby> eck: idk
[07:54] <yvone> hola no hablan espaol?
[07:54] <robby> eck: if you mean do i have a password then yeah
[07:54] <robby> eck: i believe so nm
[07:54] <eck> robby: you need something like: iwconfig eth1 essid wireless_network_name_here key s:your_password_here
[07:54] <RYUTAZ1> ~~~~T     _        ^            _      T~~~~
[07:54] <robby> eck: didnt get waht you were saying
[07:55] <eck> robby: you can omit the s: and use the hex key also
[07:55] <robby> eck: the what?
[07:55] <robby> eck: im trying to find the access point
[07:55] <eck> if your password doesn't work you can try using the hexadecimal equivalent, sometimes that works better
[07:55] <robby> oh
[07:55] <eck> robby: iwlist eth1 scanning
[07:55] <eck> that will show the networks
[07:56] <mneptok> robby: what are you trying to do?
[07:56] <robby> eck: then how do i connect to it
[07:56] <kaushal> eck : I did added upload_enable=YES
[07:56] <kaushal> still it didnot worked
[07:56] <robby> mneptok: trying to get wireless internet
[07:57] <d0lph1n> !mp3
[07:57] <mneptok> robby: what wireless card/chipset do you have?
[07:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <eck> kaushal: sorry, it should actually be write_enable
[07:57] <robby> mneptok: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
[07:57] <erikgz> what public repo is libc6-amd64 in?
[07:57] <mneptok> robby: Edgy?
[07:58] <robby> mneptok: idk
[07:58] <erikgz> i can't access it from one machine, but on another i can.  they have the same sources.list
[07:58] <robby> how can i tell
[07:58] <mneptok> robby: uname -a
[07:58] <erikgz> they have both been updated
[07:58] <Flannel> erikgz: main
[07:58] <mneptok> robby: lsb_release -a
[07:58] <robby> mneptok: where would it say
[07:58] <kaushal> eck :(
[07:59] <robby> mneptok: yeah edgy
[07:59] <kaushal> it didnot worked
[07:59] <mneptok> robby: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:59] <eck> kaushal: i will pastebin you my vsftpd.conf that has user logins and uploads
[08:00] <robby> mneptok: k its going
[08:00] <kaushal> ok
[08:00] <eck> kaushal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9983/
[08:00] <robby> mneptok: can you pm me the rest of what to do my girlfriend is here
[08:01] <robby> mneptok: or is there anything else?
[08:01] <eck> kaushal: you might want to comment out the last two lines, i put them there so that only certain users can log in
[08:01] <mneptok> robby: not unless you can tell us if you're using WEP or WPA.
[08:01] <robby> wpa
[08:01] <kaushal> ok
[08:01] <mneptok> robby: sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[08:01] <mneptok> robby: then reboot
[08:01] <erikgz> where is libc6-amd64
[08:01] <erikgz> ?
[08:01] <Flannel> erikgz: main
[08:02] <Flannel> still ;)
[08:02] <tec> is this room for ubuntu discussion or questions only?
[08:02] <robby> mneptok: is that it?
[08:02] <Whiz2> eck: yes I changed DocumentRoot to /media/hdc1 and still got the same results
[08:02] <Flannel> tec: This is support related only, #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuf
[08:02] <arfy> Hi all. I've just tried the suggestion on the ubuntu forums to change /etc/modprobe.d/sound, so that the audigy 2 zs is the default soundcard in alsa. "options snd_emu10k1 index=0". However it doesn't seem to be changing, even after doing upate-modules and alsa restart. any suggestions?
[08:02] <tec> thank you very much flannel, helpful as always
[08:03] <erikgz> Flannel: for some reason i can't see it.  i've got main.
[08:03] <mneptok> robby: when you reboot look for the network manager icon in the top panel
[08:03] <robby> k
[08:03] <robby> then connect to the wireless?
[08:03] <Flannel> erikgz: It's only for i386, is one machine PPC/AMD64?
[08:03] <erikgz> oh.
[08:03] <kaushal> eck : Its not starting at al
[08:03] <kaushal> vsftpd
[08:03] <Flannel> erikgz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libc6-amd64
[08:03] <erikgz> Flannel: i'm there
[08:03] <workbee> can someone help me use a .p7b security certificate to connect to a PEAP wireless network?
[08:04] <Flannel> erikgz: The little table at the bottom tells you what it's for, (386, but no ppc/64bit) like, say... http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/libc6
[08:04] <robby> mneptok: then connect thru that?
[08:04] <erikgz> Flannel: how do you specify amd64  so that i have the right libc6?
[08:04] <Whiz2> eck: you  still there?
[08:04] <Flannel> erikgz: eh?  What platform are you on?
[08:04] <erikgz> Flannel: so that aptitude will grab it
[08:04] <mneptok> robby: when you reboot look for the network manager icon in the top panel. (patience, grasshopper) :)
[08:04] <erikgz> amd64
[08:04] <erikgz> xen based
[08:04] <eck> Whiz2: yeah
[08:04] <robby> its already there
[08:04] <eck> pastebin your httpd.conf
[08:04] <Flannel> erikgz: then when you download stock libc6, it'll download the 64bit flavor
[08:04] <robby> mneptok: its already there
[08:05] <erikgz> Flannel: ah, it looks like i'm "i686"
[08:05] <erikgz> interesting
[08:05] <erikgz> oh, wring
[08:05] <Flannel> erikgz: hmm.  Maybe I'm wrong.
[08:05] <mneptok> robby: no it's not. don't cofuse GNOME's netwark applet with Network Manager
[08:05] <hk-ref> GO WINDOWS WOOO
[08:05] <erikgz> wrong on my part
[08:05] <robby> mneptok: oh ok
[08:05] <Whiz2> eck: ok hang on
[08:06] <robby> mneptok: will you be on later co we can coninue from here?
[08:06] <mneptok> robby: i live here :/
[08:06] <robby> oh
[08:06] <erikgz> Flannel: thanks
[08:06] <kaushal> eck : it worked now
[08:06] <kaushal> Thanks eck
[08:06] <eck> no problem
[08:06] <workbee> can someone help me use a .p7b security certificate to connect to a PEAP wireless network?
[08:07] <Flannel> erikgz: was I right? or what package is it or what?
[08:07] <kaushal> it didnot accepted upload_enable=YES
[08:07] <kaushal> so i commented it
[08:07] <lisapc> I installed nvidia-glx and ran xserver config, but ubuntu always refuses to load.  What can I do?
[08:07] <kaushal> and enabled write_enable
[08:07] <kaushal> and it worked
[08:08] <zaya> how i can see movies  .WMV ???????
[08:08] <reyezzo> herro.
[08:08] <lisapc> zaya impossible
[08:09] <zaya> why ?
[08:09] <lisapc> zaya jk :)
[08:09] <zaya> jk ?
[08:09] <lisapc> zaya try easyubuntu
[08:09] <mneptok> do NOT try EasyUbuntu
[08:09] <mneptok> please
[08:09] <lisapc> mneptok i did
[08:09] <lisapc> mneptok no need to beg ;)
[08:09] <xushi> hi all
[08:09] <mneptok> lisapc: please do not recommend it to others.
[08:09] <lisapc> xushi hi sweetheart
[08:10] <zaya> totem cant see ... WMV
[08:10] <zaya> how i can see ???
[08:10] <lisapc> mneptok easyubuntu is relative. I can recommend it as I wish!  you are not my boss
[08:10] <xushi> I have a Toshiba Portege laptop which i want to install linux on. The only problem is that there is no cd-rom or floppy devices on the laptop.
[08:10] <mneptok> !wmv > zaya
[08:10] <xushi> It does support booting with Intel PXE .. thing, but the wiki i read required that i have a second windows machine with TFTP installed. Is that seriously needed?
[08:10] <Flannel> !install | xushi
[08:10] <ubotu> xushi: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:10] <lisapc> zaya try easubuntu and see if you like it
[08:10] <lkthomas> xushi, googole linux-laptop
[08:10] <xushi> thanks!
[08:11] <tapoxi> hello channel
[08:11] <mneptok> lisapc: please, stop recommending EasyUbuntu. i am asking nicely. EasyUbuntu causes many problems, and we do not recommend it here.
[08:11] <lisapc> mneptok i can recommend something as much as I want.  you are in no position to tell me what to do
[08:11] <lkthomas> LOL
[08:11] <workbee> Hi, how do I add a security certificate to the network manager?
[08:11] <zaya> in sinaptyc ... ?.. i can aply the codecs ? in a seccion video ?
[08:11] <lkthomas> WTF is easyubuntu ?
[08:11] <zaya> in sinaptyc ... ?.. i can aply the codecs ? in a seccion video ?
[08:12] <eck> workbee: for what? a vpn?
[08:12] <shatrat> lkthomas, automatix' daddy
[08:12] <tapoxi> Automatix broke my setup :-/
[08:12] <lisapc> hello again :)
[08:12] <workbee> eck: Its a wireless network that uses PEAP
[08:12] <lkthomas> and what is automatix then ?!
[08:12] <tapoxi> welcome back :D
[08:13] <tapoxi> lkthomas: Son of EasyUbuntu.
[08:13] <mneptok> lkthomas: "Hell on Earth."
[08:13] <shatrat> lkthomas, easy way out that breaks apt and some other fun stuff.  /msg ubotu automatix
[08:13] <eck> workbee: um, i don't think that the network manager in ubuntu supports anything besides wep/wpa/wpa2
[08:13] <lisapc> has anyone been able to set up a nvidia 7300 card on edgy?
[08:13] <crimsun> aww, but they're fuzzy!
[08:13] <eck> workbee: i know that you can build it with support for a lot more things though, probably including that
[08:14] <Xeper> Hey, I'm doing an install now and the install couldn't detect my HDD.  It's a 500GB Samsung SATA drive.  What driver does it need?
[08:14] <Gurpartap> do we need windows installed to run windows applications using "wine"?
[08:14] <tapoxi> On a non mission-critical laptop, is Edgy stable enough to upgrade and toy around with?
[08:14] <tapoxi> Gurpartap: No.
[08:14] <chavo> Gurpartapno
[08:14] <Gurpartap> okay coool
[08:15] <workbee> eck: PEAP is WPA2 enterprise I think. I can see the option when I use the Connect to other wireless network option, there is a place to select the certificate but then it just drops the connection without on a visible error
[08:15] <lkthomas> hmm
[08:15] <tapoxi> Gurpartap: You can point it towards a Windows directory if you'd like, so it can use native fonts and Windows' own DLL files, but it works well enough without Windows.
[08:15] <Whiz2> eck: I can't pastebin it, because I'm accessing the server remotely, and whenever I try to do it from the server itself, i get a SPAM warning from pastebin
[08:15] <lkthomas> guys, how big is it to mirror the whole ubuntu edgy release tree ?
[08:15] <Gurpartap> thanks, don't want to install windows now :)
[08:16] <Xeper> Someone's got to know the answer to that...?
[08:16] <Whiz2> There are only 2 userlines anyway
[08:16] <eck> Whiz2: aren't you connected via ssh?
[08:16] <lkthomas> Xeper, does dmesg shows anything ?
[08:16] <Whiz2> eck: remotely?
[08:16] <workbee> eck: is there a log or something I can look at to see what is going on?
[08:16] <lkthomas> Xeper, do you have any experience to install linux before ?
[08:16] <eck> workbee: you might be able to start nm-applet from the command line and see what it outputs when you try to put that in
[08:17] <Whiz2> eck remotely i'm connected to the server via vncserver
[08:17] <eck> Whiz2: if you are using linux you should definitely be using ssh
[08:17] <Xeper> lkthomas: Yes, but I haven't used it in over 2 years because I was in Iraq.
[08:17] <eck> and then you can just copy and paste whatever is in your terminal
[08:18] <Xeper> lkthomas: So I'm rusty
[08:18] <eck> no gui for a server
[08:18] <eck> that is a big security vulnerability
[08:18] <whiteberyl> help, i got a white screen on beryl, what should i do
[08:18] <Whiz2> I'm connected to the tty service using putty.
[08:18] <h1st0> eck: what is?
[08:18] <Whiz2> how do I open the conf file from the command line?
[08:18] <Gurpartap> any tiny windows app to run using wine? notepad.exe?
[08:18] <eck> hmm... well just make sure it has encryption
[08:18] <eck> h1st0: running x11
[08:18] <Squee> What kind of methods are there for having an encrypted filesystem? (I'm trying to get luks running under feisty and failing miserably, looking for alternatives)
[08:18] <h1st0> eck: no its not.
[08:18] <h1st0> lol
[08:19] <lkthomas> Xeper, IRAQ ? firing M4A1 ? :)
[08:19] <eck> that's a pretty big root owned process
[08:19] <eck> that i would _not_ want running on any of my production machines
[08:19] <Xeper> lkthomas: Yeah, but I don't like to talk about it.
[08:19] <Whiz2> eck: what are you talking about?
[08:19] <lkthomas> Xeper, I understand that
[08:19] <lkthomas> Xeper, make sure dmesg shows that HDD have been detected
[08:20] <Xeper> How can I do that?
[08:20] <Xeper> I've just got some install menu...
[08:20] <Gurpartap> can anyone pass on a copy of their notepad.exe (win xp) or a link? :-)
[08:20] <chalcedony> Gurpartap: in #ubuntu ?
[08:20] <lkthomas> Xeper, press Alt+F2
[08:20] <Xeper> lkthomas: I know the drive *works* (it's got XP installed on it now), so is there a way to know what driver it needs to run?
[08:21] <guidex> i'm having a problem with the package gtk-engines-eazel
[08:21] <guidex> it returns an error when i install in synaptic
[08:21] <lkthomas> Xeper, I think if you got latest version of ubuntu, it should detect right away
[08:21] <Gurpartap> chalcedony, for wine :D
[08:21] <guidex> E: gtk-engines-eazel: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[08:21] <guidex> any ideas?
[08:21] <Xeper> lkthomas: 6.10...
[08:22] <lkthomas> Xeper, then press enter and dmesg it
[08:23] <eck> Whiz2: what diectory is it serving files from?
[08:23] <guidex> nevermind
[08:23] <Tmob> anyone know how to setup sudo so that it lets wifi-radar run without a password?
[08:23] <guidex> i found an alternate download package
[08:23] <Xeper> lkthomas: How do I use dmesg?  I've got the other console open now
[08:23] <lkthomas> dmesg
[08:23] <lkthomas> just type it in console
[08:23] <mojo> Is anyone here really versed on filesystems or just ext3?  my gnome system monitor shows i have 17.x gig free but only 5.x available.. What Gives??  Do you have to De-Frag under Linux after all, do I wait for the system to "garbage clean" or something?  Or am I stuck with the loss?  The part. is pretty active and sees lots of big files come and go, or get moved around.  I also unzip/unrar and make iso's on that part. too (for an idea of so
[08:23] <mojo> me useage)
[08:23] <Xeper> lkthomas: scrolls a ton of stuff back at me
[08:23] <Whiz2> eck: don't know, but it's supposed to be serving them from /media/hdc1
[08:24] <lkthomas> Xeper, dmesg | grep hd
[08:24] <reyezzo> is it possible to merge two partitions that are of the same filesystem ?
[08:24] <reyezzo> which are both emptu
[08:24] <reyezzo> empty
[08:24] <reyezzo> i don't see the option in Gparted
[08:25] <eck> Whiz2: hmm.. well i need to get some sleep, but i suggest you try to continue your help on #apache, you might have to set up a single virtual host or something like that
[08:25] <shatrat> mojo, maybe you need to empty the trash.
[08:25] <Whiz2> eck: managed to pastebin it using a work-around... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9985/
[08:26] <mojo> shatrat: nope, not that i can find... checked for .Trash-username dirs as root, too... though it is worth looking again :)
[08:26] <reyezzo> yes? no? :(
[08:26] <Whiz2> eck: there is also an apache2.conf file in the same directory where httpd.conf is located. should I pastebin that too?
[08:26] <mojo> shatrat: do those get placed anywhere other than volume root folders?
[08:26] <lkthomas> Xeper, hmm, I have a question about army, I saw youtube that some of you got scope on M4, some of them just use M16 without scope, why is it ?
[08:27] <shatrat> mojo, well in your home, .Trash
[08:28] <mojo> shatrat: thx for the idea, i am looking to see...
[08:29] <Xeper> lkthomas: Identifies the range of the target.
[08:30] <lkthomas> Xeper, so only special ops got aimpoint ?
[08:30] <Xeper> lkthomas: Yes.
[08:30] <Xeper> lkthomas: I see the HDD in dmesg now, so how do I load up its driver?
[08:30] <lkthomas> Xeper, I don't understand how you guys could shoot that long range with just iron sight
[08:31] <lkthomas> Xeper, it means that HDD haven't been partition
[08:31] <lkthomas> Xeper, press Alt+F1 and continue the setup
[08:31] <lkthomas> it should be able to shows your HDD
[08:31] <Whiz2> eck: did you get my pastebin?
[08:31] <brady> what is the mysql jdbc package?
[08:32] <Xeper> lkthomas: During install, it says "No disk drive was detected.  If you know the name of the driver needed by your disk drive, you can select it from the list."
[08:32] <brady> apparently it used to be libmysql-java, but this package does not seem to be present.
[08:32] <Xeper> lkthomas: So if it can't see a drive to install on, I cannot continue.
[08:32] <lkthomas> Xeper, can you see SATA driver from the list
[08:32] <Xeper> lkthomas: I don't know... there's a million SATA options.  How can I be sure which one is mine?
[08:33] <lkthomas> Xeper, you should know what SATA chip are you using
[08:33] <lkthomas> Xeper, google for your motherboard
[08:33] <bullgard1> You can configure Midnight commander so that it displays in the right-hand half detailed information about the highlighted file in the left-hand half. This includes 3 date and times (below 'size'). What are the names/identifiers of these three times in English?
[08:34] <Gurpartap> wow wine is wow :-D
[08:35] <Vince_> Good morning folks.  I was wondering if someone could help me.  I've been trying to install Ubuntu for 3 days and have not had any luck.  I've had it and i've decided that I just want windows back.  Is there anyway I can take the partion I made for Ubuntu and merge it back into my NTFS partition that windows is installed on?
[08:35] <Whiz2> looks like eck vanished on me
[08:35] <mojo> shatrat: i only found one tiny file >1Mb in one of my spare /home/userid/.Trash folders... what about /tmp or /var/tmp, just curious but could that be in the equation?  Or even if not, is it all fair game to axe?  how/when does the system clean up temp files?  does it require logoff/shutdown to clear them?
[08:35] <Xeper> lkthomas: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813130066 Is any of that useful?
[08:36] <shinobi2> i am using wifi to connect to internet, how can i pipe this connection to my eth0 so another computer can connect online via this eth0?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> Gurpartap: it's got pretty good lately
[08:36] <kraut> moin
[08:36] <shatrat> mojo, i'm really not sure. it was just an idea.
[08:36] <mojo> sharms: you know, though, the partition in question is only /home and below... above that is a different physical disk so i guess /tmp and /var/tmp couldn't be a factor
[08:36] <Gurpartap> Frogzoo, going to try aoeII :D
[08:36] <mojo> sharms: well i appreciate it none the less
[08:37] <Vince_> Anybody?
[08:37] <lkthomas> Xeper,  ATI SB600 Chipset
[08:37] <lkthomas> - 	Supports SATAII controllers for four drives
[08:37] <lkthomas> Xeper,  start from this, google around :)
[08:37] <Whiz2> Vince_: What's your question?
[08:37] <LadyNikon> !wine
[08:37] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:38] <mojo> sharms: one thing i learned quickly is that i need to study up on bash... i have been proficient in dos cli and even amiga cli for ages but can't even do recursive dir listings to save my life in bash, lol
[08:38] <Vince_> Whiz2: Ubuntu will not install.  And i'm tired of wasting time on it.  I need to take the partion i set asside for Ubuntu and merge it back into the main partition that has Windows XP loaded on it.  Preferably without having to reformat and reinstall
[08:38] <Gurpartap> wine is healthy milk :p
[08:39] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know what would make a cgi-bin directory invisible from the browser.. yet folders such as phpmyadmin and apache are found... if I try to access to cgi-bin, it simply says folder /cgi-bin/ not found
[08:39] <jenda_> My desktop is connected to my router with a static IP... my lappy with DHCP... each is able to reach the internet and ping the router... but neither can reach the other (or ping it).
[08:39] <Whiz2> Vince_: How did you create the partition?
[08:39] <jenda_> It seems the lappy is considered to be out of the network by the router
[08:39] <Whiz2> Vince_: Did you have to reformat in order to do it?
[08:39] <jenda_> jenda!!! you're alive...
[08:39] <jenda_> jenda: but I can't connect to you :/
[08:39] <Vince_> Whiz2: I created it from free space using the Ubuntu Installer.
[08:39] <jenda_> :)
[08:40] <Vince_> I split my 80GB HD and set asside roughly 40 for windows and 40 for ubuntu
[08:40] <infidel> bt this the error WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ibxcomposite1
[08:40] <Vince_> Installed Windows on the main partition.  Had Intended on putting Ubuntu on the other.
[08:40] <Whiz2> Vince_: and you want do what? Remove the ubuntu partition, and enlarge the NTFS partition?
[08:40] <Xeper> lkthomas: That's not an option on the list...
[08:40] <Vince_> Whiz2: Exactly
[08:40] <lkthomas> Xeper, grr
[08:41] <Whiz2> Vince_: you need an external partition manager that is compatible with Windows XP (Partition Commander 9 is a good one) That's how I do it
[08:41] <lisapc> will "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic"  change the xorg.conf file?
[08:41] <Vince_> Whiz2: Is there a good program that won't cost me anything?
[08:41] <lkthomas> Xeper, search ATI SB600 and linux
[08:42] <Whiz2> Vince_: When I got Partition Commander 9, I got it free right from the website
[08:42] <Vince_> Whiz2:  Alrighty then.  I appreciate your help.  Im just sorry that the only solution i'm getting is how to wipe Ubuntu out rather than get it working.
[08:42] <shatrat> lisapc, no it wont.
[08:43] <amorphous_> if i need five machines, all different specs, to be setup the same, can I ghost and then just recompile the kernel for the specific machines? and is that failsafe?
[08:43] <Whiz2> Vince_: Perhaps I can help install it?
[08:43] <Vince_> Whiz2: I've been fighting with this thing for 3 days *heh*
[08:43] <Vince_> Whiz2: Well give me a moment, and i'l type out what i've done so far
[08:43] <Vince_> If you have a thought i'd be more than willing to hear it
[08:43] <Whiz2> Vince_: I had a lot of trouble with mine too at first. i'd like to know what your attempted instalation resulted in
[08:44] <Vince_> Whiz2: Its a long story, give me a moment to type it ;-)
[08:44] <Whiz2> Vince_: ok
[08:45] <Whiz2> While I'm waiting for Vince_, i need help configuring apache2 so that it works on my system using /media/hdc1 as the web server, and uses port 80 with php5 support.
[08:45] <lkthomas> guys
[08:45] <lkthomas> is there have any fast mirror for ubuntu ?
[08:45] <h1st0> lkthomas: you could use the torrent
[08:45] <lkthomas> h1st0, I am using online install
[08:45] <h1st0> lkthomas: scroll down on the download page there should be torrents at the bottom.
[08:45] <h1st0> lkthomas: how are you doing that?
[08:46] <lkthomas> h1st0, WHAT ? it is normal way to install it
[08:46] <Whiz2> no configuration I've used works, and all i get is the default apache2 directory "index of /" with another directory inside called "apache2-default"
[08:46] <h1st0> lkthomas: No download the iso and install of of there.
[08:46] <lkthomas> h1st0, nope
[08:46] <lkthomas> h1st0, ubuntu is based on debian.
[08:47] <h1st0> lkthomas: Ubuntu does not have an official netinstall iso as of yet.
[08:47] <lkthomas> h1st0, nope, you are wrong
[08:47] <foutrelis> hey ^.^
[08:47] <h1st0> lol sure
[08:48] <Whiz2> Vince_: If it's really long/large amount of information, just pastebin it, and give me the URL to the paste
[08:48] <Frogzoo> lkthomas: you want class of service for a free install?
[08:48] <Vince_> Whiz2: Will do
[08:48] <h1st0> lkthomas: well then you can't be helped because obviously you know your answer
[08:48] <lkthomas> h1st0, I could use debian install CD to install ubuntu as well :)
[08:48] <h1st0> lkthomas: nto recomended.
[08:48] <h1st0> lkthomas: also not the proper way to do it.
[08:49] <Xeper> Hm, no look here.
[08:49] <h1st0> lkthomas: the proper way would be with PXE
[08:49] <Xeper> luck, rather
[08:49] <Whiz2> i need a little help.
[08:49] <h1st0> but I won't get in to that.
[08:49] <PriceChild> h1st0, lkthomas maybe best the discussion in this channel ends... move it somewhere else by all means but this is a support channel :)
[08:49] <foutrelis> !ask | Whiz2
[08:49] <ubotu> Whiz2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:49] <Whiz2> I did ask my question
[08:49] <foutrelis> sorry I didn't see it :(
[08:50] <h1st0> !paste > Whiz2
[08:50] <Whiz2> While I'm waiting for Vince_, i need help configuring apache2 so that it works on my system using /media/hdc1 as the web server, and uses port 80 with php5 support.
[08:50] <Whiz2> h1st0: I know. :-)
[08:50] <Whiz2> there is my question
[08:51] <h1st0> Whiz2: edit your apache conf its pretty self explanitory changing the document root.l
[08:51] <foutrelis> Whiz2: hmm apt-get install apache2 php5 phpmyadmin :)
[08:51] <Caleb1> Hey d00ds
[08:51] <h1st0> Whiz2: /etc/apache/apache2.conf
[08:51] <Caleb1> here to tell you that ubuntu is TEH SUCK
[08:51] <Caleb1> and im a l33t hax0r
[08:51] <Caleb1> so i know
[08:51] <h1st0> c001
[08:51] <foutrelis> Caleb1: ok kid
[08:51] <lkthomas> wh0t ?
[08:51] <h1st0> 1337 | Caleb1
[08:52] <lkthomas> LOL
[08:52] <Gurpartap> would directx 9 install with wine?
[08:52] <Gurpartap> or is there a procedure?
[08:52] <h1st0> Gurpartap: no
[08:52] <lkthomas> LOL PriceChild
[08:53] <lkthomas> hidden op
[08:53] <Gurpartap> http://directxwine.sourceforge.net/ seems to have old version directx8.1
[08:53] <h1st0> Gurpartap: what application are you trying to get workign?
[08:53] <PriceChild> Gurpartap, wine runs a compatability layer to translate direct9 calls.
[08:53] <Gurpartap> h1st0, a game
[08:53] <Whiz2> h1st0: I'm already editing that file, but do not see an entry for document rot
[08:53] <Gurpartap> ageofempires
[08:53] <Whiz2> root*
[08:53] <Gurpartap> PriceChild, u from w!n?
[08:54] <h1st0> Gurpartap: go to http://appdb.winehq.com  and search for age of empires on the left.  There will be a howto for getting it to work.
[08:54] <PriceChild> Gurpartap, ?
[08:54] <foutrelis> Whiz2: Which file are you editing? document root must be in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[08:54] <Gurpartap> okay
[08:54] <Whiz2> what is phpmyadmin?
[08:54] <Lembur> halo
[08:54] <Gurpartap> whitynz, php - mysql  - administration
[08:54] <foutrelis> Whiz2: MySql frontend
[08:54] <h1st0> Whiz2: a web based mysql admin
[08:54] <jonno> i need help with Dual montor support
[08:54] <Lembur> halo everyone
[08:54] <Whiz2> foutrelis: i'm editing /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[08:55] <foutrelis> Whiz2: hmmm
[08:55] <jonno> one monitor works and the other one flashes
[08:55] <Whiz2> what is MySql and do I need to install it?
[08:55] <Vince_> Whiz2: Phpmyadmin is a great set of PHP scripts that allow you to manage and administer MySQL Databases
[08:55] <Vince_> Whis2: Here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9988/
[08:55] <jonno> anyone?
[08:55] <h1st0> !dual-head > jonno
[08:55] <ReK_> phpmyadmin is the best thing for mysql
[08:55] <ReK_> beats every query browser ive tried
[08:55] <foutrelis> Whiz2: On second thought check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[08:56] <h1st0> foutrelis: yeah thats right they changed all the configs up
[08:56] <Whiz2> Vince_: one moment while I review the information/chat with these guys... may take a few moments
[08:56] <Vince_> No prob, I gotta go get the program anyway
[08:56] <Whiz2> foutrelis: ok checking...
[08:56] <foutrelis> h1st0: Took me one day to find how to make .htaccess files work :( :\
[08:57] <Lembur> need help to use bluetooth in ubuntu pls
[08:57] <h1st0> !bluetooth > Lembur
[08:57] <Lembur> yes
[08:57] <h1st0> !bluetooth Lembur
[08:57] <ubotu> bluetooth: Bluetooth stack utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 60 kB
[08:58] <Whiz2> foutrelis: there is a file in there called "ooo-default"
[08:58] <h1st0> !bluetooth | Lembur
[08:58] <ubotu> Lembur: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:58] <h1st0> jesus I can't type tonight.
[08:58] <foutrelis> Whiz2: I think that's where the document root is specified :)
[08:58] <jonno> i need help
[08:58] <jonno> can anyone help me?
[08:59] <h1st0> !dual-head | jonno
[08:59] <ubotu> jonno: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:59] <jonno> that iddnt help me
[08:59] <h1st0> !Xinerama | jonno
[08:59] <ubotu> jonno: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:59] <Xeper> lkthomas: Grrr... looks like I have to wait till a version is released with 2.6.20 or >
[08:59] <PhibreOptix> Hi guys, can anybody tell me how to setup my user account so it has the same permissions as root? I'm aware of the security issues etc.
[09:00] <PriceChild> PhibreOptix, just use the root account?
[09:00] <h1st0> Xeper: fiesty has 2.6.20
[09:00] <z9999> Anyone familiar with the output of the 'set' command in unix? And if so can you get similar output from ubuntu using what command? 'set' gives something different in ubuntu.
[09:00] <Xeper> h1st0, What version number is fiesty?
[09:00] <PriceChild> h1st0, feisty isn't released. Please don't recommend it to people.
[09:00] <Whiz2> foutrelis: I think I changed a setting in apache2.conf that I shouldn't have. know what the default value for "ServerRoot" is?
[09:00] <h1st0> z9999: just set a password for root. sudo passwd
[09:00] <PhibreOptix> PriceChild: Because I want my account to have the permissions, not just use the root account
[09:00] <PhibreOptix> Is it possible or not?
[09:01] <foutrelis> Whiz2: It should be /var/www
[09:01] <Whiz2> ok
[09:01] <h1st0> Xeper: 2.6.20-9-generic
[09:01] <jblake> jonno, what sort of video card do you have?
[09:01] <Vince_> Whiz2: Partition Commander is commercial software, They don't have a free version
[09:01] <h1st0> PriceChild: I was telling him it will have it not telling him to install it.
[09:01] <PriceChild> PhibreOptix, if you want to be extremely foolish and bypass all the security, then just use the root account.
[09:01] <h1st0> Xeper: it is still in development not yet released.
[09:01] <Xeper> h1st0: Where can I obtain it?
[09:01] <shatrat> PhibreOptix, if you have to ask if its possible, im not so sure you really know what the possible problems are.
[09:01] <lkthomas> Xeper, make your own install cd then
[09:01] <Xeper> h1st0: That's fine... not my first go at Linux.
[09:01] <PhibreOptix> And this is the reason the linux community fails
[09:01] <PriceChild> !feisty | Xeper
[09:01] <ubotu> Xeper: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:02] <PhibreOptix> Somebody asks a direct question, and they get thrown around with other stuff
[09:02] <PhibreOptix> Whatever
[09:02] <jonno> jblake - PM me
[09:02] <PriceChild> Xeper, all releases are found at cdimages.ubuntu.com
[09:02] <h1st0> PhilKC: ?
[09:02] <merc> whaoh, seems like i stumbled in just as someone stormed off about poor question handling!
[09:02] <jonno> dilch - NVidia
[09:02] <jonno> but the help pages dont exist yet..
[09:03] <dilch> jonno, i'll pm you
[09:03] <jonno> k
[09:03] <h1st0> jonno: there is plenty of documentation in the wiki bout it.
[09:03] <dilch> jonno, are you registered on freenode? So that you can pm?
[09:03] <z9999> h1st0: Don't understanf your answer, just would like to see things like PROMPT=, UMASK=, HOME=, etc.
[09:04] <h1st0> z9999: You said you wanted to enable root account correct?
[09:04] <jonno> no
[09:04] <jonno> sorry
[09:04] <h1st0> z9999: and that you understood the issues with it?
[09:04] <jonno> lemme register real quick
[09:04] <jonno> how?
[09:04] <dilch> jonno, ok
[09:04] <h1st0> jonno: /msg nickserv register <password>  I think
[09:04] <z9999> h1st0: No, I want to see a list of all the variables set at login, plus any we have set.
[09:05] <jonno> i need email too i beleive
[09:05] <amorphous_> anyone know the epiphany config file's name?
[09:05] <PriceChild> !register > jonno
[09:05] <h1st0> z9999: ahh that I don't know how to do.
[09:05] <Whiz2> foutrelis: My website is nor up, and running in perfect condition on port 80... Thank you. i could never get lighttpd to work this way. you're a lifesaver lol
[09:05] <Whiz2> now*
[09:05] <dilch> jonno, no, just type "/msg nickserv register password"
[09:05] <foutrelis> Whiz2: You are welcome. Glad I could help. :)
[09:06] <ankur> Hi, I upgraded my kernel version to 2.6.17-11 from 2.6.17-10, since then there is no sound output from my system, could someone help?
[09:06] <z9999> Any unix users around ?
[09:06] <Whiz2> Vince_: What version of ubuntu did you install? (e.g. edubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc)
[09:06] <h1st0> z9999: ahh I had you confused with phibre  Thats why he left.  lol
[09:06] <FireTalon> z9999: sudo nano (or vim, gedit) /etc/profile
[09:06] <Vince_> Whiz2: all regular Ubuntu
[09:06] <dilch> z9999, lots of unix-like users around ;)
[09:06] <Whiz2> Vince_: try kubuntu (which you can get from kubuntu.org) i used that on an XP system with not one problem
[09:07] <Vince_> Whiz2: I hate KDE, and the problum isn't the software packages.  I can't even get that far and the installer is the same before that
[09:07] <h1st0> Vince_: What is the problem now?
[09:07] <z9999> dilch: Trying to find the equivalent command of one used in unix on ubuntu, the 'set' command. The 'set' in ububtu gives something different.
[09:07] <Vince_> h1st0: Same problum I was h aving last night
[09:08] <h1st0> Vince_: Okay well I don't remember so what is the problem?
[09:08] <Whiz2> Vince_: Can you even get to the desktop in Live CD mode?
[09:08] <pavs> what does control + z does? switch application/program or closes it?
[09:08] <foutrelis> pavs: Puts it in the bckground
[09:08] <pavs> foutrelis tnx
[09:08] <h1st0> pavs: ctrl + Z puts it in the background well sort of pauses it.  then you type bg to background it.  Then fg to foreground it.
[09:08] <Vince_> Whiz2: No Live CD Produces a "/bin/sh cannot access tty;" error
[09:08] <foutrelis> pavs: It pauses it to be exact :)
[09:09] <h1st0> Vince_: Did you check the CD for defects?
[09:09] <Tmob> anyone know how to setup sudo so that it lets wifi-radar run without a password?
[09:09] <Vince_> yes
[09:09] <Vince_> multiple times and I downloaded from multiple sources
[09:09] <h1st0> Vince_: Yes but have you run the check CD for defects on the boot menu?
[09:09] <h1st0> Vince_: And what part of the install is hanging?
[09:09] <pavs> top/htop shows me 119 tasks running, it normal? because i always press control z when I wanted to close a program.
[09:10] <Whiz2> Vince_: that's a good point. It does have the option to check the CD at Live-CD boot time
[09:10] <h1st0> pavs: ctrl z doesn't close the program.
[09:10] <foutrelis> pavs: Try using ctrl + c :)
[09:10] <Vince_> h1ST0: Please read this post it pretty much explains everyting.  Suffice it to say YES i've done all that. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9988/
[09:10] <Whiz2> ctrl+c is the same function as with Windows
[09:10] <PriceChild> pavs, I have 119 also :)
[09:11] <pavs> hlst0 now i know, but it seems like i have a lot of programm "paused" in the background taking up resources.
[09:11] <Vince_> Whiz2: I've checked the CD, and i've downloaded and burned the ISO from different sources.
[09:11] <pavs> priceshild i guess than that many tasks are normal
[09:11] <mneptok> pavs: let me guess. you usually use Windows?
[09:11] <shinobi2> that's the release schedule for ubuntu 7?
[09:12] <CaptainMorgan> omg the wiki is unfreakenbelieveable
[09:12] <Whiz2> Vince_: Your hard disk may have a physical defect
[09:12] <PriceChild> shinobi2, april 29thish for 7.04
[09:12] <pavs> mneptok : used to recently switched to linux
[09:12] <CaptainMorgan> I can't make sense of lamp stuff... and apache installs
[09:12] <h1st0> Vince_: First boot to any cd then select Check CD for defects on teh menu
[09:12] <CaptainMorgan> wth
[09:12] <h1st0> Vince_: then if all the checksums come back okay  You know the CD is good.
[09:12] <Vince_> Whiz2: I don't belive so.  This happens before I ever touch the Hard Drive
[09:12] <h1st0> Vince_: What sort of hardware do you have i.e. motherboard?
[09:12] <foutrelis> CaptainMorgan: Do you want to install apache php and mysql?
[09:13] <mneptok> pavs: Linux is *much* better about dynamically allocating resources. you'll see insane memroy usage with very little running. this is Linux giving things lots of headroom. when resources are needed they'll be reallocated. just enjoy the ride. :)
[09:13] <Vince_> All this hardware ran breezy before with no issues
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> foutrelis, yes, and please do not link the wiki.. it's incomplete and doesn't make sense in some areas
[09:13] <foutrelis> CaptainMorgan: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server-5.0 phpmyadmin
[09:13] <unimatrix9> hello everybody
[09:13] <Whiz2> Vince_: you might have to wipe out the ubuntu partition, and use windows to create a new partition, then run chkdsk from a command prompt with the /r /f switches. this allows for surface scans
[09:13] <Vince_> Except for my wireless, I have to get a driver and manualy install it but i've doen that before
[09:13] <h1st0> Vince_: Please check the CD for defects at the menu.  You may need to burn the iso at like 4x or it could be an issue with those cdr's and your drive etc...
[09:13] <pavs> mneptok: thanks for the explanation.
[09:13] <unimatrix9> is there an list somewhere of all ubuntu derivates?
[09:13] <Vince_> Look
[09:13] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Eh?  The ubuntu wiki?  It's not incomplete.
[09:13] <Vince_> I've DONE THAT ALREADY
[09:14] <Whiz2> Vince_: perhaps ubuntu doesn't recognize your CD drive
[09:14] <mneptok> pavs: np.
[09:14] <Vince_> How many times do I need to say it?
[09:14] <markybob> one more time!
[09:14] <h1st0> Vince_: Okay well try booting with the nopcmcia option ssee if your cdrom is detected.
[09:14] <unimatrix9> is there an list somewhere of all ubuntu derivates?
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, it's sometimes difficult to navigaet
[09:14] <h1st0> Vince_: You never said you ahve checked hte CD for defects only that you used multiple cds.
[09:14] <PriceChild> unimatrix9, distrowatch perhaps?
[09:14] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: the LAMP page?  Its a single page, what navigation?  Or, am I missing something
[09:14] <unimatrix9> ah good tip thanx
[09:14] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:14] <PriceChild> unimatrix9, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/derivatives
[09:15] <bullgard1> One can configure Midnight commander so that it displays in the right-hand half detailed information about a highlighted file in the left-hand half. This includes 3 date & times (below 'size'). What are the names/identifiers of these 3 dates & times in English?
[09:15] <foutrelis> CaptainMorgan: Make sure to change MySql's root password after installation. You can use phpmyadmin (http://localhost/phpmyadmin) to do that.
[09:15] <mneptok> Vince_: what is the PATA controller on your machine?
[09:15] <PriceChild> unimatrix9, that was top result for "ubuntu derivatives" ;)
[09:15] <Whiz2> how do I install MySql?
[09:15] <unimatrix9> yeah thats great thnx
[09:15] <unimatrix9> very nice
[09:15] <foutrelis> Whiz2: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[09:15] <h1st0> mneptok: I experience the same behavior with my hardware and disablign pcmcia at boot somehow lets it find the cdrom.
[09:15] <Vince_> mneptok: I have no idea.  I don't even know what a PATA controller is
[09:15] <Flannel> Vince_: what are you trying to do?
[09:15] <Vince_> Look
[09:15] <mneptok> Vince_: Parallel ATA.
[09:16] <h1st0> Vince_: boot to the alternate cd.  hit f6 and append nopcmcia to the end of the line
[09:16] <Flannel> Vince_: expand your NTFS?
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> foutrelis, Flannel, what I couldn't figure out was why it installed apache-default in /var/www making /var/www invalid to place cgi-bin.. and could only be placed within /var/www/apache-default
[09:16] <lkthomas> guys
[09:16] <h1st0> Vince_: press enter and continue to install.
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> so I erased and trying once more
[09:16] <Whiz2> foutris: Will I need to configure that as well for my web directory?
[09:16] <h1st0> Flannel: he's trying to install ubuntu.
[09:16] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: What?
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, yes
[09:16] <lkthomas> I just finished fresh install on a HDD, but it turns out to be grub error 21 when it's bootup, why is it ?
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, confused the shit out of me
[09:16] <h1st0> lkthomas: because you are netinstalling.
[09:16] <foutrelis> CaptainMorgan: The conf file you need to edit is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[09:16] <h1st0> lol
[09:16] <mneptok> Vince_: what is the PATA controller on your machine? what is the CD plugged into? what chipset controls that PATA bus?
[09:16] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: What on earth are you talking about?
[09:16] <Vince_> i've given up on Ubuntu. I've wasted 3 days on this and all people do is keep telling me the same things over and over agian.  I want to delete the partition that was going to be used for Ubuntu and merge it back into the windows NTFS partition with having to reformat the HD
[09:16] <PriceChild> !ohmy | CaptainMorgan
[09:17] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:17] <Whiz2> Vince_: long shot, and not a desired thing for your situation, but have you tried installing on a hard drive which has no other partitions at all?
[09:17] <lkthomas> h1st0, shutup, it have nothing to do with how you install it
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> foutrelis, ok, but why is that set to default when the wiki clearly says it will default /var/www ??,
[09:17] <h1st0> Vince_: well if you don't want to listen to the solution nopcmcia then i guess nothign you can do.
[09:17] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: What are you trying to say is default?
[09:17] <mneptok> Vince_: i'm trying to help you. and there's a really, REALLY good chance i know what the problem is.
[09:17] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: apache-default isn't default.
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> apache installation
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, well I certainly didn't hand type that folder in
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> it was created during installation
[09:18] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: right, that folder exists.  What's the question?
[09:18] <Whiz2> foutrelis: Will i need to configure msql to work with my web directory like I did with apache2?
[09:18] <Vince_> mneptok: I have no idea what any of that is or how to find out.  I know its an IDE CDROM it's worked fine in brezey before.  Its connected to the Mainboard like anything else
[09:18] <mneptok> Vince_: do you know what mobo it is?
[09:18] <foutrelis> Whiz2: apt-get install phpmyadmin should connect php and mysql
[09:18] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, you can't place cgi-bin inside /var/www
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> it's not supposed to, according to the wiki
[09:19] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: What is not supposed to?
[09:19] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, and the behaviour you have described so far seems fine.
[09:19] <CaptainMorgan> PriceChild, that's the way I"ve always done it, why not??
[09:19] <markybob> PriceChild, of course you can
[09:19] <PriceChild> ok
[09:19] <z9999> dilch & h1st0: OK we finally figured it out, the 'env' command gives similar output to the 'set' command in unix. Thanks
[09:19] <foutrelis> CaptainMorgan: The document root is in /var/www. This directory has very strict permissions which you can edit in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[09:19] <PriceChild> maybe not "can't"
[09:19] <Vince_> mnepotk: I did earlier I can't find the paper now
[09:19] <markybob> CaptainMorgan, dont listen to him.  just as long as your apache conf has cgi configured for that dir you can do it
[09:19] <mojo> sharms: in ##linux I learned my answer... the missing data was taken by blocks reserved for root (in case of critical low space, root can still have space to finish essential writes).. that being non-essential on /home partition I used tune2fs to set the reserved % to zero and got back my 12 gigs (on 230Gb partition).  df -h before and after showed the results.
[09:20] <Whiz2> I wish there was a step-by-step manual for learning linux... would make things lots easier lol
[09:20] <markybob> Whiz2, there are many.  google or go to barnes and noble.  they have books online and offline
[09:20] <mneptok> z9999: "set" or "export" sytax is determined by the shell
[09:20] <mojo> Whiz2: linux is like life, you learn by experiencing lol
[09:20] <foutrelis> mojo: yeah :)
[09:20] <PriceChild> markybob, CaptainMorgan, sorry my mistake :) I'm just tired and confused :)
[09:20] <Vince_> mnepotk: Its a Biostar M7NCG 400
[09:20] <Vince_> It has a NForce2 Chipset
[09:20] <mneptok> z9999: (t)csh uses set. bash and co. use export.
[09:20] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: /var/www is the default document root, the default cgi-bin dir is /usr/lib/cgi-bin/  If you want to re-enable apache2-default being the default page, you can do it by uncommenting a single line.  I don't really understand what your asking/what your issue is, however.
[09:20] <mneptok> Vince_: stand by
[09:21] <PriceChild> Flannel, wait yeah that's what I thought was the case!!!
[09:21] <PriceChild> markybob, "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/" - that's what I was thinking of, as the default isn't inside /var/www
[09:21] <valehru> Is there any applications out there that could optimize a video for uploading to youtube ...i.e. from AVI -> FLA format?  Right now the video is 128MB....I don't want to upload all of that/....
[09:22] <mojo> Whiz2: honestly, the best things you can learn up front are how to be resourseful about finding answers.. find good communities like this irc forum (and a few others), as well as good web forums and some good doc sites.  there is alwasy the linux documentation project, and good books can be recommended dependin on where you want to go with linux (admin books, for instance, or security books, or programming books, yadda yadda)
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, which line would that be?
[09:22] <foutrelis> valehru: ffmpeg maybe
[09:22] <markybob> PriceChild, default.  that's far different than saying you cant run cgi from within /var/www
[09:22] <Whiz2> someone remind me what the command is to check available disk space on hda1?
[09:22] <PriceChild> markybob, Yeah "can't" was a bad choice of wording :) "in ubuntu the default/recommended" would have been better
[09:22] <markybob> Whiz2, df -h
[09:22] <valehru> foutrelis, thx
[09:22] <Whiz2> ty
[09:22] <cypher1> Whiz2: df
[09:22] <mneptok> Vince_: looks like that machine does not have Serial ATA.
[09:23] <mojo> Whiz2: df -h /dev/hda1
[09:23] <foutrelis> !df > foutrelis
[09:23] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: if you edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default, the second "directory" directive, the last line there, `#RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/` but Why are you doing that?  What are you hoping to accomplish?
[09:23] <Vince_> mneptok: Alrighty.  How does that matter to my situation though?
[09:23] <mneptok> Vince_: it may be that the correct driver for your IDE bus is not being injected into the initramfs of Edgy. could you try a Dapper CD?
[09:23] <mojo> Whiz2: or du can be used to hone in on the large directories under some branch of your file tree
[09:24] <Vince_> mneptok: already did and it does the same thign
[09:24] <Whiz2> What does a serial ATA matter for installing, or using the Live-CD?
[09:24] <h1st0> Vince_: I have the exact same problem with my hardware.  the solution was to disable pcmcia on the install cd boot and it was able to detect the cdrom.
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, I am simply not used to placing cgi-bin anywhere else but /var/www
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> and would like it there
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> functional
[09:24] <Whiz2> mneptok: Vince- has already tried a Dapper release with similar results
[09:24] <markybob> CaptainMorgan, and you have every right to do so.  just have cgi configured for that dir.  no big deal
[09:24] <Vince_> h1st0: Somebody had me doing that earlier it didn't work.
[09:25] <mneptok> Vince_: hom big is the drive is your machine, and where do your ext3 partitions reside on the disk?
[09:25] <mneptok> *how
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> markybob, ok.. how is that to be configured?
[09:25] <odix> where can i find a good live poker environment for ubuntu or even linux ?
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> within /usr/lib/cgi-bin ?
[09:25] <markybob> CaptainMorgan, just add  Options +ExecCGI      to that dir config
[09:25] <mneptok> odix: Las Vegas?
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> markybob, in httpd.conf or .htaccess ?
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> or elsewhere...
[09:25] <markybob> CaptainMorgan, httpd.conf
[09:25] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: and what's stopping you from placing it there?  You don't need to uncomment that line, what you want is to remove the "ScriptAlias" line, (comment it out) and change the line under that, so the directory is /var/www/cgi-bin/
[09:25] <merc> wow, seems new ubuntu kernel has all kinds of laptop extras :D
[09:25] <odix> i just tried to wine a windows one and now im scared to boot to windows cause i think it wrote the drive
[09:26] <Whiz2> never seen a room quite this active
[09:26] <Vince_> mnepotk: I have 2 Hard Drives, 1 80Gig and 1 40.  The 80 Gig is basicly split in half with WIndows XP in one 40Meg Partition and an Ubuntu Swap and Root partition in the other
[09:26] <Flannel> markybob: please stop giving poor information.
[09:26] <odix> mneptok ? are you saying go to las vegas ? or you recognize my host ?
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, as it stands now, when cgi-bin is placed in /var/www it cannot be found from the internet
[09:26] <h1st0> Vince_: When its trying to detect the cdrom you can hit ctrl+alt+F4 and see the output of what is going on.
[09:26] <Vince_> The second drive is formated FAT32 so both OS's can access it
[09:26] <odix> no one plays poker free online huh ?
[09:26] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Right, you need to comment that ScriptAlias, and change the line under it
[09:26] <madsen> Hey, can anyone help me get that Compiz cube-thing going on Feisty? It doesn't seem to react to Ctrl-Alt-Button1
[09:26] <mojo> odix: so you are in vegas, lol?
[09:26] <markybob> CaptainMorgan, remove the alias setting.  then add it to the default dir
[09:26] <mneptok> odix: a liitle of column A, a little of .... ;)
[09:26] <genii> CaptainMorgan Just put a link in /var/www to the actual spot
[09:27] <odix> ya i live in vegas ;]
[09:27] <PriceChild> madsen, > #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <Whiz2> Didn't realize it took forever to install phpmyadmin
[09:27] <Vince_> h1st0: I'll try it agian and hit that to see whats up.
[09:27] <markybob> Flannel, all i have to say is fuck off unless you can tell me where i gave 'poor information'
[09:27] <odix> mneptok? huh?
[09:27] <PriceChild> !ohmy | markybob
[09:27] <ubotu> markybob: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:27] <foutrelis> :(
[09:27] <madsen> PriceChild: Ok, thanks! :)
[09:27] <h1st0> Vince_: also when you try it append nopcmcia even if you don't have pcmcia.  See what the output is.
[09:27] <markybob> oh heaven forbid....!  we're all gonna die because i cursed!
[09:27] <Flannel> !coc | markybob
[09:27] <ubotu> markybob: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:28] <mneptok> markybob: stop that
[09:28] <CaptainMorgan> now Im severely confused.. Flannel and markybob both giving me info and they're slightly different
[09:28] <markybob> Flannel, i stick to 'fuck off' unless you can tell me where i'm wrong
[09:28] <CaptainMorgan> similar but different enough to be confusing
[09:28] <Whiz2> foutrelis: do i need to reboot after instaling all these files you suggested I install?
[09:28] <PriceChild> markybob, please leave language outside the channel
[09:28] <odix> see ya
[09:28] <foutrelis> Whiz2: just sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart :)
[09:28] <mneptok> *sigh*
[09:28] <odix> soo... back to poker ?
[09:29] <mojo> odix: that is funny (well, botht he markybob thing and you living in vegas... lol)
[09:29] <Whiz2> foutrelis: was i supposed to run something after the installs completed, or just restart the server, and try the pages again?
[09:29] <h1st0> Vince_: if you hit F7 or F8 at the main menu it will give you the exact option for disabling it.
[09:29] <foutrelis> Whiz2: Just restart the server.
[09:30] <Whiz2> foutrelis: thank you. problem fixed
[09:30] <Vince_> mneptok: anything else?  I'm going to go give some of these idea's a shot
[09:30] <mojo> odix: not to sound like an upright mammalian's gluteus maximus, but(t), did you have any luck with google linux poker or java poker perhaps?
[09:30] <mneptok> Vince_: not off the top of my head. try unplugging the 80GB and see if the install gets further with just the other drive?
[09:31] <genii> CaptainMorgan Anyhow, if you do something like: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/cgi-bin /var/ww/cgi-bin     then you don't need to mess with the stock apache/httpd conf files for scriptaliases and so on.
[09:31] <mojo> odix: or search freshmeat or sourceforge?
[09:31] <Vince_> Will do... If i'm not back soon you can assume i'm having so me luck ;-)
[09:31] <odix> yup
[09:31] <odix> not lucky at all
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> I don't mind httpd.conf genii, but I understand what you're saying
[09:31] <odix> im looking for a free live poker
[09:31] <odix> good luck
[09:31] <Whiz2> Now if it were only that easy to find the pack of cigs I lost 20 mins ago, I'd be set lol
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> that file, Flannel  /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default is completely empty
[09:31] <foutrelis> Whiz2: You should add a password for mysql's root account now. Do you know how to do that?
[09:32] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Eh?  What version of ubuntu are you on?  And, did you install apache or apache2?
[09:32] <Whiz2> foutrelis: no. i've never done this before
[09:32] <mojo> odix: yeah, i hear few are truly lucky in vegas ;p  but seriously i only had those ideas for you, i am not familiar with gambling software. most cards i play in life, even, are spades and hearts
[09:32] <mneptok> odix: aren't there like<PHONE_NUMBER>651 Java clients/applets?
[09:32] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, LTS, and apache2.. was that a bad idea? should I have gone with only apace ?
[09:32] <CaptainMorgan> apache
[09:33] <mojo> odix: yeah, java is a good bet (i love puns too much)
[09:33] <odix> mneptok, i only found<PHONE_NUMBER> ;[
[09:33] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: no.  But the filenames have changed a bit on different versions
[09:33] <foutrelis> Whiz2: You can do that with phpmyadmin.   I'm looking at it right now.  What files do you have in /etc/apache2/sites-available/?  Oh sorry.  It's just "default" in -available, 000-default in -enabled
[09:34] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:34] <Whiz2> foutrelis: going to that address resulted in a 404 page not found error
[09:34] <genii> CaptainMorgan: With apache2 the main conf files in /etc/aapache2 pull in sub conf files from places like /etc/apache2/sites-available   and so on
[09:35] <foutrelis> Whiz2: did you apt-get install phpmyadmin?
[09:35] <Whiz2> foutrelis: yes
[09:35] <foutrelis> :S
[09:35] <CaptainMorgan> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is also blank Flannel
[09:35] <yeniklasor> I have compiled and installed alsa. Everything's great but my microphone don't work. Do you know any code for active it or maybe get it in kernel ^^
[09:35] <Whiz2> foutrelis: can I /msg you with the address I went to exactly?
[09:35] <foutrelis> Whiz2: That would be nice :)
[09:35] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Eh?  no it's not.  Or, if it is, your apache won't be working too well.  What files do you have in that dir?
[09:36] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, there is nothing within site-availabel
[09:37] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: eh?  sites-available
[09:37] <genii> Flannel Likely apache2 can't start or starts for localhost because no default IP to latch
[09:37] <odix> bah
[09:37] <odix> i quit
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> and httpd.conf is about 3 lines long
[09:37] <odix> its all spammy
[09:37] <Whiz2> foutrelis: i'm not registered. how else can I privately give you the URL?
[09:37] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: right, httpd.conf isn't used by ubuntu
[09:37] <odix> there all downloadable clients
[09:37] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: What do you have in /etc/apache2?  pastebin it
[09:37] <foutrelis> Whiz2: Join me in #foutrelis.com.
[09:38] <SubMOA> what is the gnome configuration command?
[09:38] <SubMOA> gconf, right?
[09:38] <Flannel> SubMOA: gconf2-editor, or something like that
[09:38] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, http://pastebin.ca/391671
[09:38] <odix> gnome-conf ?
[09:38] <SubMOA> grg
[09:38] <SubMOA> thank oyu
[09:38] <SubMOA> i meant rgr, btw
[09:39] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you have sites-available, you don't have apache2.conf, is that a paste error?
[09:39] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, no
[09:39] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you have no apache2.conf file?
[09:40] <CaptainMorgan> if it's supposed to be in that folder, I don't have it
[09:40] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: reinstall apache2-common
[09:40] <SubMOA> AHH how do you change a Command??!
[09:40] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, just did that and nothing changed
[09:40] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: without apache2.conf... nothing should be working
[09:40] <genii> CaptainMorgan: Yes, if this is a paste of /etc/apache2 and not /etc/apache  then missing the apache2.conf file is not good
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, as it isn't
[09:41] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: remove apache2-common, with a purge, then reinstall it
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> genii, I didn't touch it... I simply followed the commands given by the wiki or from there
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> here
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> purge?
[09:41] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: apt-get remove --purge apache2-common
[09:41] <SubMOA> how would you change the bindings on a Command from gconf-edit, or form command line?
[09:42] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: and yes, it'll drag some packages with it.
[09:42] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: then reinstall apache2
[09:43] <odix> is linux compatible with posix ?
[09:43] <CaptainMorgan> jeepers, now that just looks better..
[09:43] <CaptainMorgan> ok, apach2.conf is there now
[09:43] <CaptainMorgan> and site-available has default :)
[09:43] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: now, in sites-available/default, comment out that line, and stuff
[09:44] <allyer> it's second image that i downloaded and doesn't works
[09:44] <CaptainMorgan> Srciptalias? or change it to the dir I want.. for exampleit says now /usr/lib/cgi-bin.. and I want /var/www/cgi-bin
[09:45] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: comment out the script alias, and change.
[09:45] <allyer> i downloaded alternative iso x64 version of ubuntu
[09:45] <Flannel> allyer: Did you check the md5 of your iso?
[09:45] <genii> CaptainMorgan: You should leave the default entry unless you are moving everything and altering your PATH as well
[09:45] <allyer> yeah, Flannel
[09:45] <allyer> it's right
[09:45] <Flannel> allyer: right, so you know the iso is good.  Did you burn at 4x?
[09:46] <allyer> no, i cant burn in 4x
[09:46] <CaptainMorgan> I followed that wiki exactly as it said... that thing is corrupt I tell you
[09:46] <allyer> the cd was burned in 10x
[09:46] <genii> CaptainMorgan: Just use the default as a guide and make an entire new entry for the dir /var/www/cgi-bin
[09:46] <genii> You can have multiple scriptaliases
[09:47] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: I've seen a few issues with it, it's changed a bit from when I last read it, I'll be changing a few things soon.
[09:47] <allyer> Flannel, when i pressed some keys to see in probabily erros
[09:47] <Vince_> No Joy
[09:47] <allyer> when i press Ctrl+C, it was showed
[09:47] <allyer> "cannot to build to database "
[09:47] <allyer> and showed directory
[09:48] <Vince_> I tried nopcmica, hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false, and PCI=noacpi
[09:48] <allyer> error in line 135
[09:48] <allyer> my hd is sata, ubuntu support hd sata?
[09:49] <Vince_> I also hit CTRL ALT F4 and it says CDRom-Detect: cdrom mount failed agian error = 255 Device /dev/hdd
[09:49] <odix> so..i found a game..when a click a link it gives me a .out with text...it has the option sarge,etc,unstable,hoary,breezy,dapper,edgy
[09:49] <genii> Vince_ try changing nopcmica to nopcmcia
[09:49] <odix> im tihkning edgy..i save the .out as a .deb and it does nothing
[09:49] <odix> http://mekensleep.org/ under poker 3d
[09:49] <Vince_> grnii: thats what I hit.  Sorry I typoed just now
[09:50] <allyer> who fix ubuntu's bugs?
[09:50] <LadyNikon> ubuntus developers?
[09:50] <allyer> the ubuntu instalation doesn't load here
[09:50] <genii> allyer How much RAM does the box have?
[09:50] <allyer> i have 512MB
[09:50] <allyer> DDR2
[09:51] <allyer> frequency 667mhz
[09:51] <Vince_> Look, can someone help me just fix my partitions
[09:51] <genii> allyer Is it an Intel or AMD and single core or not?
[09:51] <Vince_> I don't want Ubuntu at this point
[09:51] <allyer> amd and dual core
[09:51] <allyer> CPU Info: (2 CPU's - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2.00 GHz, L1: 64KB L2: 512KB (0% Load))
[09:51] <allyer> Memory Usage: (Usage: 300/447MB (67.11%))  (||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||----------------)
[09:51] <allyer> Hard Disks: (Total/Free: 227.82/73.26GB  Total/Free space on: C: 20.41/13.53GB  D: 14.62/8.55GB  E: 44.91/0.06GB  F: 49.8/21.61GB  G: 98.09/29.5GB)
[09:51] <genii> allyer Put as a kernel option before booting: notsc
[09:52] <allyer> how can I do this?
[09:52] <allyer> do have I press F6 and change the boot options?
[09:53] <Vince_> Is there anyway to merge the two 40 Gigabyte Partitions without loosing all the data on the drive?
[09:53] <genii> allyer Use the alternate install cdrom. It will give you a page which lets you do things like text install or so on not on regular install cdrom. From the main menu there you can modify the parameters it is using to boot
[09:53] <bahr> is it normal that an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 by following the documentation, fu*** up your entire system?
[09:53] <merc> Vince_: partition magic, for windows, iirc..
[09:53] <genii> allyer Yes, if that works on your cd
[09:54] <Vince_> merc: Is they're anything that dosen't cost me 50 bucks for something i'll use one time?
[09:54] <allyer> yeah, genii, they told me this! I download the version alternative too
[09:54] <merc> not that i know of offhand, but, i'd imagine there are.
[09:54] <bahr> I got a message, that said, that I could not install more packages until I had run a 'sudo apt-get install -f', but when I do that, I get some kind of samba error
[09:54] <PriceChild> Vince_, use the live cd to delete the ubuntu partition and enlarge the windows one
[09:54] <bahr> I did just like, the documentation said I should...
[09:54] <Vince_> PriceChild: I cannot boot the live CD.
[09:54] <genii> allyer Anyhow, for dual-core amd the notsc  option works often to get the installer working.
[09:55] <Vince_> It throws errors
[09:55] <allyer> what is mean "notsc"? is it mean not scsi?
[09:55] <PriceChild> Vince_, try the knoppix or gparted live cds then
[09:55] <genii> allyer No, it is a parameter to the kernel regarding cpu clock cycles
[09:55] <Vince_> Ok, I can enlarging the Windows Partition "WONT HARM THE DATA" correct?
[09:55] <allyer> ok
[09:55] <h1st0> Vince_: not if its been defragged
[09:56] <Vince_> h1st0: Its a friesh install so it should be an issue.
[09:56] <allyer> but when i press F6 have a lot parameters, genii, what do i do?
[09:56] <merc> Vince_: partitionlogic.org.uk seems to do what you want.
[09:56] <h1st0> Stil lhave to dfrag it first
[09:56] <Chousuke> hm
[09:56] <Chousuke> defragging shouldn't matter when enlarging
[09:56] <genii> allyer Go to the end of the line it gives you and add   notsc
[09:56] <Chousuke> there are free tools for that, too.
[09:56] <marshcast> how can I set up a new user with a preconfigured setup? I need to copy accross the panel, but can't seen to find the right config file... doesn't seem to be the .gconf/panels one as I've copied this... any offers?
[09:56] <allyer> ok
[09:57] <allyer> thx, i will try, genii
[09:57] <Chousuke> but if you want to be sure you won't lose data, back it up.
[09:57] <h1st0> Well yeah i guess thats true enlarging shoudln't matter but gparted might throw up an error.
[09:57] <allyer> thx everything
[09:57] <genii> allyer OK. If still issues report back
[09:57] <Chousuke> well, it'll tell you if it's not going to work
[09:57] <Vince_> Ok thanks guys.
[09:57] <Gurpartap> what parameter to change/put to allow non-root users to mount drives? in fstab
[09:57] <joh> Does anyone know wether xserver-xorg in Edgy includes the R300 drivers?
[09:57] <Chousuke> Gurpartap: user
[09:57] <Gurpartap> ok
[09:58] <Chousuke> or maybe users. the cdrom entry should have it I think
[09:58] <marshcast> I've also tried to add a new user but have ad no joy trying to use a current user as SKEL (the SKEL bit confuses me (although it appears to be quite straightforward :()
[09:58] <allyer> ok
[09:58] <marshcast> can anyone offer any ideas?
[09:59] <Gurpartap> Chousuke, its user, but still unable to
[09:59] <Gurpartap> it mounts with sudo command well though
[09:59] <Lynoure> marshcast: you can copy the configuration files into skel instead.
[09:59] <Chousuke> Gurpartap: what kind of error do you get? permission denied? :/
[10:00] <niru> what does ubuntu provide for cd burning
[10:00] <Lynoure> marshcast: that is, to the directory /etc/skel
[10:00] <Gurpartap> Chousuke, mount: only root can mount this on that
[10:00] <Chousuke> Lynoure: hm
[10:00] <Chousuke> oops
[10:00] <Chousuke> Gurpartap: even
[10:00] <Chousuke> :P