[00:09] <ChinnoDog> TheLordOfTime: are they incompatible?
[02:33] <InHisName> Good Bacon
[02:56] <ChinnoDog> Awfully late for bacon.
[03:05] <ChinnoDog> I guess protein is probably a good midnight snack though. It won't rot your teeth or keep you up all night.
[03:06] <ChinnoDog> midnight bacon for all
[03:07] <InHisName> No One to chastize bacon timing this late at night.
[09:16] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:19] <rmg51> Morning JonathanD
[09:23] <JonathanD> hey
[09:23] <rmg51> o/
[11:20] <InHisName> Good Morning, JonathanD & rmg51
[11:26] <rmg51> bye-bye
[11:26] <rmg51> work time
[12:00] <waltman> Morning.
[12:04] <waltman> The breakfast burrito in this morning's promo email from Wawa looks awfully yummy.
[12:20] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples
[14:24] <ChinnoDog> I want eggs
[14:29] <jedijf> ntr sale : EVERYTHING is on SALE:
[14:29] <jedijf> Our $35 homework computers (runs Xubuntu) SALE PRICE = $21
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> How fast is a "homework computer"?
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> ChinnoDog:  slower than a snail :P
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> fast enough to run Xubuntu, but not fast enoug hto do anything past that xD
[15:49] <waltman> Depends on the type of homework you've got to do.
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> waltman:  so if my homework involved penetration-testing on a lab-environment network with 200000000 packets a minute, then the homework computer would be decent enough?
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> (i doubt this)
[15:51] <waltman> I was thinking of the kind of homework I needed to do for my grad CS classes. :)
[16:07] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> waltman:  graphics-intensive?
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> or mostly advanced coding
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> ?
[16:16] <waltman> The ray-tracing class probably would have been the worst :)
[16:16] <waltman> I'm guessing they could probably handle LaTeX and emacs :)
[16:24] <ChinnoDog> I used to run POV on my P90 just fine
[16:25] <ChinnoDog> Just have to preview in low res, no anti aliasing, and use only one or two light sources.
[16:25] <waltman> I took a class where I wrote my own ray tracer from scratch.
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> showoff
[16:58] <waltman> :)


[22:14] <zduniak> hi guys, hopefully i'm on the proper channel. I'm creating a custom installation ISO for an Ubuntu-derived distro for deploying server edu solutions in low-connectivity settings (so it has to work fully offline)
[22:15] <zduniak> my initial approach (which has been working quite nicely over the last few months) was using the core installer and then adding a preseed with a bunch of commands / services to perform a partially online installation
[22:16] <zduniak> but now I need to pin the packages and bundle all the software in a way that it can be installed in the middle of a literal jungle, so I'm trying to replace the whole repository in the ISO with my custom repo with pinned versions generated using aptly
[22:17] <zduniak> I just replace dists / pool with what aptly generated (which is a perfectly valid debian repo), but when I try to run the installer, it doesn't seem to mount the cdrom (works just fine if i dont replace the repos)
[22:17] <zduniak> when i click continue and go into the shell, cdrom is mounted and all files are there
[22:19] <zduniak> could anyone familiar with installer's internals please help me? it feels like I am removing some package and the installer is failing silently
[22:24] <zduniak> what's interesting is that there are no errors in the syslog
[22:34] <zduniak> i see that cdrom-detect is missing in my repo
[22:34] <zduniak> is there some sort of a meta package for the installer?


[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> ddstreet, hello you there?
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> some changes you did on ubuntu-dev-tools broke launchpad login
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/520965621/ubuntu-dev-tools_0.178_0.178ubuntu1.diff.gz
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> in specific, reverting this change in jammy
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> -            self.login()
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> +            self.login_anonymously()
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> works as expected and my ubuntu-build is back
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg> otherwise...
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg> ubuntu-build --batch --retry openimageio
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-build", line 282, in <module>
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg>     main()
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-build", line 260, in main
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg>     can_retry = options.retry and me.canUploadPackage(ubuntu_archive,
[09:02] <LocutusOfBorg> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'canUploadPackage'
[09:03] <LocutusOfBorg> can you please have a look?
[09:04] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg: Can you successfully use ubuntu-dev-tools with current python3-ubuntutools?  I have an older version pinned because I run into issues if I upgrade.  I can't remember which tool precisely, but I mainly use syncpackage, backportpackage, and...uh...
[09:04] <LocutusOfBorg> no.
[09:04] <Unit193> merge-changelogs I'm also having some issue with now, I see traceback.
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I had the same issues, and I fixed by changing that line login_anonymously into login
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg>  /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ubuntutools/lp/lpapicache.py line 108
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg> please try
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg> back to focal, I reverted to an older version, but now there is the incompatibility with new python and collections.abc
[09:10] <LocutusOfBorg> ddstreet, (see #launchpad chan too if you want)
[09:11] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, please let me know if this fixes the issue for you
[09:11] <Unit193> Hmm, can't test this without something to actually sync, and LP isn't picking up my latest upload to experimental I want to pull yet.
[09:13] <LocutusOfBorg> Unit193, syncpackage -f ruby-certificate-authority ?
[09:15] <Unit193> Nope, didn't need the lpapicache edit for that. :/
[09:19] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg: Well thanks for making me try python3-ubuntutools again, not sure what's changed in the meantime but backportpackage and syncpackage work, sooo..
[09:38] <LocutusOfBorg> lol
[09:52] <bluca> bdmurray: still seeing "Received HTTP code 403 from proxy after CONNECT" on new runs on !amd64 this morning
[09:52] <bluca> it worked briefly yesterday afternoon
[12:08] <Payam> Hi,I do build my package to .deb from a python application. but when I install the .deb package and try to run it what I get is "osim: comman not found". Here is my rules file : https://dpaste.org/giZBx
[12:08] <Payam> What am I doing wrong?
[13:17] <arraybolt3[m]> Payam: Does /opt/osim exist?
[13:18] <arraybolt3[m]> Also, are you building this with sbuild?
[13:19] <Payam> I use pybuild, opt/osim should created during installation of deb file and I use dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b
[13:19] <Payam> I used python-virtualenv before in ubuntu 18 and it worked but now it doesn't anymore
[13:21] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm. Well something is happening that's causing /opt/osim to not exist - if the build process itself creates it in whatever virtual environment you're using, then I would guess either something weird with the package you're building, or the build steps aren't executing in the order you think they are and so osim is needed before it's created.
[13:22] <arraybolt3[m]> (That's just a very generic take on it - seeing the console output of whatever you're building would help, and knowing what software you're trying to build would also be helpful.)
[13:22] <arraybolt3[m]> Also, check your build dependencies in debian/control.
[13:23] <arraybolt3[m]> Wait... the package is building properly, but then when you try to run it you're told osim: command not found?
[13:23] <arraybolt3[m]> In that case I'd check your install files (debian/*.install) and your installation dependencies.
[13:23] <Payam> yes exacly
[13:23] <Payam> The problem is I don't know where the files ends up after the installation of .deb file
[13:25] <arraybolt3[m]> Payam: A trick you can use is to open the .deb file in an archiver program, and browse around in it - you can see exactly where it's going to put all its files by doing this.
[13:25] <arraybolt3[m]> That might give you a clue as to what's going wrong.
[13:28] <Payam> ÿeah. it should end up under usr/bin/
[13:28] <Payam> but the usr/bin/osim is just an empty file
[13:30] <arraybolt3[m]> And osim is not an empty file in the actual source code, right? Or it's the output of the build process?
[13:41] <Payam> Now I changed it to this : https://dpaste.org/tfzzn#L36
[13:41] <Payam> and it worked but the packages are missing. It is almost like it doesn't install alla pip dependencies.
[13:42] <Payam> like with python-virtualenv
[14:14] <bdmurray> bluca: It likely has to do with which datacenter the tests run in. I spent some time looking at firewall rules yesterday and didn't spot anything wrong but I'll keep looking into things today.
[14:32] <bluca> thanks!
[15:45] <bdmurray> bluca: Can you remind me where to find the systemd-upstream test logs?
[15:46] <bluca> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#pkg-systemd-upstream
[15:46] <bluca> running jobs are under there
[15:46] <bluca> finished ones I don't know if they are listed anywhere, I get them from the github PR, latest one to fail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:47] <bdmurray> bluca: in that log I see prod-proposed-migration-4@bos01-arm64-5. Are there any failures since yesterday with "@bos02"?
[15:50] <bluca> there are 5/6 failures today and they are all on bos01, didn't see any on bos02
[15:51] <bluca> you can see the list of PRs here: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pulls
[15:51] <bluca> each PR has the list of CI jobs, and the focal-<arch> have the link to the logs
[16:55] <dbungert> vorlon: looks like you're doing some ffmpeg transition work, I'm on +1, shall I avoid or assist?
[16:55] <vorlon> dbungert: assist please :)
[16:55] <vorlon> there are a lot of revdeps that ftbfs
[16:56] <dbungert> no joke
[17:00] <dbungert> vorlon: working backwards then, starting xpra


[00:04] <Arthur_D> I'm having some difficulties with the task manager of Orage. I'm trying to make it start a wine application when the alarm goes, but for some reason, it doesn't. If I set it to start e.g. k3b, it does that just fine
[00:05] <charlie-tca> !wine
[00:06] <charlie-tca> They would have more help for that in #winehq, I think
[00:06] <Arthur_D> I don't think so. I tested opening it with the same command in the terminal, and it worked just fine
[00:07] <Arthur_D> so it doesn't seem like Wine is the problem
[00:12] <charlie-tca> and it does start k3b, so the app is not the problem
[00:14] <Arthur_D> well, one way or another, something must be wrong. If the value is passed directly to the command line shell like the tooltip suggests, any command given in the terminal should work here as well
[00:14] <Arthur_D> but for some reason it doesn't
[00:17] <Arthur_D> wine /path/to/program/programname.exe ought to work
[00:29] <xKrisx> I'm pretty new to linux but I was trying to attempt this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/ndiswrapper.html I was wondering about the inf file and which one it is suppose to be. Its a Netgear WN111v2 if that helps at all.
[02:17] <xmrojas6996> Hola, ¿Alguien por casualidad habla español?
[02:48] <Jason75> I installed 11.04 a few days ago. Loving it so far, but for some reason I can't change my screen resolution.
[02:48] <Jason75> Only gives me one option...1024x768 and 0.0 for the refresh rate.
[02:48] <Jason75> Any ideas?
[02:48] <Jason75> It's an older Dell crt monitor and integrated Intel graphics chip.
[02:50] <Jason75> Anyone?
[02:51] <xKrisx> hey
[02:51] <Jason75> Hello.
[02:51] <xKrisx> i came in here a while ago asking my own questions. I think you'd have more luck in #ubuntu because theres tons of people in there active.
[02:52] <Jason75> Ah, ok. Thanks!
[02:52] <xKrisx> yeah no problem
[02:52] <xKrisx> #ubuntu and #kubuntu are most popular
[02:55] <Jason75> So I've heard...but, Xubuntu is gaining some attention, apparently.
[02:55] <Jason75> Yeah...no one's answering in #ubuntu, either.
[02:56] <xKrisx> you could try kubuntu lol
[02:56] <Jason75> lol Might have to.
[02:57] <xKrisx> i had to ask a couple of times in ubuntu
[02:57] <Jason75> I have lol.
[02:57] <xKrisx> eventually someone will be on that will help you.. if you bug them enough
[02:58] <xKrisx> theres like 1300 people in there someone has to know
[02:58] <Jason75> You would think.
[02:58] <xKrisx> lol xD\
[03:00] <Jason75> Wow...nothing.
[03:01] <xKrisx> eh, you could look for other linux channels
[03:01] <xKrisx> possibly on a different network too
[03:02] <Jason75> True enough.
[03:02] <xKrisx> besides that i dont know what to tell you. bad timing, maybe no one smart is on. lol
[03:04] <Jason75> lol
[03:05] <xKrisx> idk if this might be helpful: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/125771-xubuntu-screen-resolution.html
[03:05] <xKrisx> lol i really dont know
[03:05] <Jason75> Hey, thanks. I'll definitely check it out. :-)
[09:36] <gigenieks> hi guys
[09:41] <gigenieks> Does anyone know how to file bug and could explain it to me? Or should I ask this in other channel?
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> !bug | gigenieks
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> hope it helps
[09:48] <gigenieks> will check that link - thank you :)
[09:50] <well_laid_lawn> np :)
[10:14] <pushkarik> Hey guys! My Firefox 5 doesn't show some parts of websites: code examples on stackoverflow, code on github etc. I ride xubuntu 11.04, x64
[10:15] <ablomen> pushkarik, you don't see them at all? you could try installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer, though i'm not sure that fixes it
[10:16] <well_laid_lawn> ablomen: what fiefox extensions are you using?
[10:16] <pushkarik> ablomen: i see them in Opera or Chrome, but not in Firefox
[10:16] <pushkarik> well_laid_lawn: i thought that problem is with AdBlock, but i tried to turn off all extensions - so it didn't help me
[10:17] <well_laid_lawn> I'd check extensions/plugins first
[10:18] <pushkarik> well_laid_lawn: how i said - i uninstalled all extensions, but it didn't help me
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> pushkarik: did you restart the browser?
[10:19] <pushkarik> well_laid_lawn: yes, off course
[10:19] <well_laid_lawn> k :)
[10:19] <well_laid_lawn> can you give me a link that doesn't work for you?
[10:21] <pushkarik> http://hyperpolyglot.org/scripting  - i don't see table contents or examples of code on all page
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:21] <ablomen> pushkarik, as a last resort you could try renaming your ~/.mozilla directory to see if it's something in your profile, and go from there
[10:22] <well_laid_lawn> with noscript I get the table and code examples
[10:23] <pushkarik> ablomen: i just tried it - doesn't work anyway :(
[10:23] <pushkarik> well_laid_lawn: i also see it with firebug
[10:23] <ablomen> did you try installing the ms fonts?
[10:24] <pushkarik> ablomen: no
[10:24] <ablomen> try that, it might not be able to find the fonts (Courier etc) and also not finding a fallback font
[10:25] <ablomen> (just a theory, but hey, you need the ms fonts for webdeveloping anyway)
[10:25] <knome> theoretically not finding a fallback font shouldn't ever happen, that'd mean you didn't have any fonts on your system installed..
[10:27] <pushkarik> ablomen: oh, sorry, i have already msttcorefonts package
[10:27] <ablomen> ok, then i have no idea
[10:29] <pushkarik> Guys, i already tried all usual things: turning on/off extensions, changing mozilla profile, updating firefox etc - it still doesn't work :( That's why i came for help - i have no ideas what to do next
[10:31] <knome> pushkarik, have you purged and reinstalled firefox?
[10:31] <pushkarik> knome: no, not purged
[10:32] <knome> i don't if that can help, but i'd try that next.
[10:33] <pushkarik> knome: hahaha, i just did "blabla purge firefox" and i see "what will be deleted: firefox, what will be installed: chromium"
[10:34] <Sysi> something depending about webbrowser
[10:37] <pushkarik> here is screenshot how my problem looks like:
[10:37] <pushkarik> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21756832/scr.png
[10:40] <gigenieks_> did I file correctly bug --->
[10:40] <gigenieks_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfburn/+bug/826675
[10:54] <ablomen> pushkarik, it's the firefox version from the ubuntu repositories btw? your not using a ppa or something like that?
[10:54] <pushkarik> Guys, i overcame the problem! I just deleted installed font 'Monaco' from usr/share/fonts folder. Maybe it was installed  not correctly
[15:53] <Charlez-Xub> que tal
[16:01] <xubuntu061> hi
[16:33] <ChristopherNG> Can someone tell me what avahi-daemon is?
[16:37] <zenrox> something you need
[16:38] <jbrouhard> Could ther ebe any particular reason why my hard drive says 60% used (80GB out of 150GB) in Xubuntu ?
[16:38] <jbrouhard> or is df reading this wrong cause i have several drives mapped nto my home directory, including a dropbox instalation ?
[16:40] <zenrox> df could be reading it wrong
[16:40] <zenrox> but i ant really shure
[16:40] <zenrox> it shouldent tho
[16:41] <zenrox> df should see each mount separltaly
[16:42] <jbrouhard> this is a near fresh install
[16:43] <jbrouhard> i have.. MAYBE..
[16:43] <jbrouhard> 20 GB extra in my /home directory
[16:43] <jbrouhard> but not more than that
[16:44] <jbrouhard> DropBox simply is a folder that is sync'd with an offsite location, much like Ubuntu One.
[19:03] <SaaMmY1> hey guys
[19:04] <SaaMmY> why if I get a javascript that detects my OS in firefox I get UNIX detecting x11 and in chromium I get simply Linux?
[19:05] <well_laid_lawn> UNIX detecting x11 ??
[19:09] <orngjce223> Do you know which page it is? I'd like to take a look.
[19:23] <SaaMmY> nono
[19:23] <SaaMmY> I mean it detects x11 and then says you are on UNIX OS
[19:24] <SaaMmY> then if it detects simply Linux it says you are on Linux OS
[19:24] <SaaMmY> it is an app I have copied on a site
[19:25] <SaaMmY> the fact is that it says I am on unix if I am on ff I am on Linux if I am on chromium
[19:26] <SaaMmY> http://www.javascripter.net/faq/operatin.htm
[19:28] <Sysi> it's made to ansver like that, according to what it detects
[19:28] <Sysi> not really related to xubuntu anyway
[19:29] <SaaMmY> lol
[19:30] <SaaMmY> however I am on xubuntu so I thought
[19:30] <SaaMmY> if anyone knows about javascript... some hope
[19:30] <SaaMmY> nevermind if not
[19:30] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, this has to do with your useragent most likely
[19:30] <SaaMmY> useragent?
[19:31] <xrdodrx> http://whatsmyuseragent.com/
[19:31] <xrdodrx> for instance mine is "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux) AppleWebKit/534.26+ Midori/0.4"
[19:31] <xrdodrx> it's the data your browser sends a server to identify itself
[19:32] <SaaMmY> oh yeah me too same as you
[19:32] <SaaMmY> nice
[19:32] <xrdodrx> :)
[19:33] <SaaMmY> thank you very much
[19:33] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, what's more, it's easy to spoof :P
[19:35] <SaaMmY> I would prefer to make a javascript for detect which OS it has to serve... in order to make different output file to write into different system paths
[19:35] <SaaMmY> then... useragent code It must be greatly useful
[20:06] <Corvus> Anyone around able to help me out with a resolution issue?
[20:07] <Corvus> Anyone?
[20:07] <SaaMmY> mmm
[20:07] <SaaMmY> no
[20:08] <SaaMmY> me not
[20:08] <Corvus> You not?
[20:08] <SaaMmY> sorry
[20:08] <Corvus> Fair enough.
[20:13] <n2diy> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, and i lost some of my system sounds. Thunderbird doesn't beep, or play a .wav when I receive e-mail, xchat-gnome doesn't beep when someone uses my nick, but korganizer's calendar alarm beep works, and I can play .wav files when I double click them, ideas?
[20:14] <Corvus> Good luck getting an answer.
[20:15] <n2diy> Corvus, what is your resolution issue?
[20:15] <Corvus> Can't choose anything other than 1024x768.
[20:16] <Corvus> Running on a box with integrated Intel graphics chip.
[20:16] <Corvus> Driver is installed, but it won't let me change the rez or refresh rate.
[20:16] <n2diy> Corvus, what is the make of your graphics card?
[20:16] <Corvus> Intel 915.
[20:17] <n2diy> Corvus, hmmm, did you google that and Xubuntu?
[20:17] <Corvus> Yeah...didn't come up with much.
[20:18] <n2diy> Corvus, well, if it was an ATI or Nvidia card you could try those channels, maybe the folks in xorg would help you?
[20:19] <Corvus> I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
[20:19] <n2diy> Corvus, gl, I'm off to Ubuntu land.
[20:19] <Corvus> Yeah...tried there, too. lol
[20:27] <SaaMmY> xrdodrx however if it detects x11 which differences there are?
[20:27] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, ?
[20:27] <SaaMmY> between linux and x11
[20:27] <SaaMmY> which is the difference?
[20:28] <xrdodrx> x11 is the display server
[20:28] <xrdodrx> linux is the kernel
[20:28] <xrdodrx> every distribution of xubuntu comes with x11 and linux
[20:28] <SaaMmY> llo
[20:28] <SaaMmY> that's all
[20:28] <xrdodrx> as do most linux distributions
[20:28] <xrdodrx> yes
[20:28] <xrdodrx> that's all
[20:28] <SaaMmY> so I should no worry about it
[20:28] <xrdodrx> i wouldn't, no
[20:28] <SaaMmY> I write Linux in the code
[20:28] <SaaMmY> for UNIX linux
[20:29] <SaaMmY> which difference?
[20:29] <xrdodrx> Unix Linux?
[20:29] <SaaMmY> ye
[20:29] <xrdodrx> I'm not sure what your question is :(
[20:29] <SaaMmY> between unix and linux
[20:29] <SaaMmY> linux is the kernel
[20:29] <SaaMmY> but unix too
[20:29] <SaaMmY> or not?
[20:30] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, Linux is based on Unix
[20:30] <xrdodrx> but Unix is an entire operating system, meanwhile Linux is just the kernel
[20:31] <SaaMmY> then if the output detection says unix or linux which is the problem?
[20:31] <SaaMmY> no problem
[20:31] <SaaMmY> or not?
[20:31] <xrdodrx> no Unix code is actually included in Linux, Unix is a proprietary OS that distributions of GNU/Linux seeked to emulate
[20:31] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, it's very unlikely any of your users will be using unix
[20:32] <SaaMmY> I need this detection just to know to whom to make download or a bin or an exe or a dmg
[20:33] <SaaMmY> xrdodrx this is all... so if for bin there is no difference between unix and linux
[20:33] <SaaMmY> I can use this simple script
[20:33] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, unless you've specifically compiled it for UNIX systems like HP-UX and Solaris, it likely won't even run
[20:34] <SaaMmY> I have compiled for xubuntu kubuntu and ubuntu
[20:34] <xrdodrx> UNIX is in a league all by itself, but Linux is *mostly compatible* with it
[20:34] <xrdodrx> but not binary compatible
[20:35] <xrdodrx> SaaMmY, you're losing sight of the bigger picture, if you figure desktop Linux has around 1-5% market share I can't even imagine how low all the other unices are :P
[20:36] <SaaMmY> then no problem
[20:36] <SaaMmY> ok ok
[20:36] <SaaMmY> I am too thinker
[20:36] <xrdodrx> yeah :)
[20:36] <SaaMmY> sorry
[20:37] <n2diy> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, and i lost some of my system sounds. Thunderbird doesn't beep, or play a .wav when I receive e-mail, xchat-gnome doesn't beep when someone uses my nick, but korganizer's calendar alarm beep works, and I can play .wav files when I double click them, ideas?
[22:17] <ChristopherNG> im getting really annoyed and frustrated
[22:20]  * Sysi pats ChristopherNG
[22:21] <Sysi> take a moments break and cool off
[22:21] <Sysi> better chances of solution then
[23:57] <ubuntu> hi
[23:57] <ubuntu> xubuntu install formatted my home partition... what can I do?
[23:57] <ubuntu> I didn't check the "format" checkbox in gparted
[23:58] <ubuntu> unmounted the partition as soon as I noticed it
[23:58] <ubuntu> it is empty


[12:43] <Nafallo> hmm
[01:27] <Ingar> HEI!
[01:27] <jdong> s
[01:28] <jdong> sorry, didn't mean to do that, lost focus...
[02:09] <ozgurk> hello
[02:09] <ozgurk> good nights.
[04:55] <glick> hi
[04:56] <glick> hey has a decision going to be made if feisty is going to include the 3d desktop by default?
[04:56] <glick> or whats going on with that?
[05:19] <somerville32> There are a lot of kernel packages that haven't be recompiled. Why isn't the old binary package left in the repository until the new version is ready?
[05:21] <Nafallo> somerville32: huh?
[05:21] <somerville32> *been
[05:24] <Nafallo> 17-10, 19-7, 20-1, 20-2, 20-3, 20-4, 20-5 is in feisty :-)
[05:26] <somerville32> Most of the linux-restricted-modules aren't
[05:26] <somerville32> When I upgraded I had to use the gb mirror because it is broken and still had the old packages
[05:28] <Nafallo> how bad :-)
[05:29] <Nafallo> I don't use restricted myself
[05:30] <johanbr> somerville32: There's no guarantee that the development repository is in a 100% consistent state at all times.
[05:30] <somerville32> johanbr, Thats to be expected.
[05:31] <somerville32> But it has less to do with it being the dev repository and more to do with how repositories work
[05:31] <somerville32> (my question that is)
[05:32] <Nafallo> somerville32: that's why I answered that we have lots of old packages lying around :-)
[05:32] <Nafallo> laying
[05:32] <johanbr> lying
[05:32] <johanbr> Pet peeve of mine. :)
[05:33] <somerville32> How do you spell lieing?
[05:33] <johanbr> lie, lies, lain, lying.
[05:34] <jdub> "lain"?
[05:34] <johanbr> Has lain.
[05:35] <jdub> in the case of telling a lie, it's "lied"
[05:35] <jdub> in the case of a funeral "laid to rest"
[05:35] <jdub> "lain" is pretty old school
[05:36] <_ion> Thou think so?
[05:36] <johanbr> If you're looking for a past tense of "lie" meaning "be situated on", I don't know what else you'd use.
[05:37] <somerville32> lied?
[05:37] <somerville32> lol
[05:37] <johanbr> If you're telling an untruth, yes.
[05:39] <somerville32> If lying and lying are the same - why not lied and lied?
[05:40] <_ion> Since when is English supposed to be logical?
[05:40] <somerville32> gp
[05:52] <sistpoty> haha, with your discussions about english I just found (and filed) bug #78271
[05:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78271 in tk8.4 "usr/lib/libtk8.4.so.0 has no SONAME" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78271
[05:52] <jdong> jdub: I've gotten a 5 point grammar deduction on a paper for using slain, so I doubt lain would fly so smoothly :D
[05:53] <Nafallo> sistpoty: go to bed! :-)
[05:53] <sistpoty> Nafallo: only this small security fix for gallery2, then *g*
[05:53] <_ion> Let's all switch to Lojban.
[05:53] <jdub> jdong: slain is more regularly used than lain
[05:53] <jdong> jdub: yeah, IMO slain is still usable :)
[05:53] <Nafallo> sistpoty: I am in bed myself. had to patch together two cat5e :-)
[05:54] <jdong> but obviously my english teacher thought that 'slayed' should be used instead :D
[05:54] <sistpoty> Nafallo: :)
[05:54] <_ion> I'm in bed, too.
[05:59] <Nafallo> _ion: so you actually mean you're in bed with me? ;-)
[05:59] <somerville32> I had a prof tell me that spelled should be used instead of spelt - but I argued with him until he let me use the word spelt :]
[06:00] <johanbr> For what it's worth, Merriam-Webster seems to agree with me about "lie".
[06:02] <_ion> nafallo: Well, there probably is an alternative universe where you reside in this bed and i reside in that bed.
[06:02] <somerville32> ;]
[06:02] <Nafallo> haha
[06:03] <Nafallo> _ion: would probably be good for you. I got a large bed :-)
[06:25] <jdub> johanbr: that is not a real dictionary.
[06:28] <johanbr> jdub: Are you going to go Crocodile Dundee on me and pull out the complete OED?
[06:30] <Nafallo> lol
[06:31] <jdub> johanbr: quite!
[06:32] <jdub> johanbr: though it'd have to be some bizaaro version of croc dundee with a snotty english accent
[06:37] <elkbuntu> jdub, what's the best email address to harrass you at?
[08:45] <macd> whats the deal with kernel-patch-grsecurity2 ?
[08:45] <macd> has grsec been merged in edgy?
[09:00] <macd> whats the deal with kernel-patch-grsecurity2 ?
[09:00] <macd> has grsec been merged in edgy?
[11:16] <mdke> Mithrandir: just tried your contentless ping script, doesn't seem to work. Anything I need to do except for loading it?
[11:20] <Mithrandir> mdke: sure?
[11:20] <Mithrandir> mdke: ping
[11:20] <Mithrandir> hmm, true, at least if your current client has it loaded.
[11:21] <mdke> Mithrandir: yes
[11:21] <mdke> 10:08:44 -!- Irssi: Loaded script contentless_ping
[11:25] <Mithrandir> it seems to be buggy, I'll take a poke at it.
[11:25] <mdke> Mithrandir: wow, thanks. Lemme know if I can test
[12:03] <Mithrandir> mdke: ok, download the script again, it's fixed now and has rate-limiting applied.
[12:04] <mdke> Mithrandir: that's awesome. Will check later and let you know!
[12:04] <Mithrandir> mdke: thanks for telling me that it was buggy. :-)
[12:04] <glick> hey so is feisty fawn gonna be uncool and try to make the 3d desktop default?
[12:04] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir!!!
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ...
[12:04] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee! :-)
[12:04] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:05] <Mithrandir> how's .au today?
[12:05] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir, a lot colder than the past few days, which is good :)
[12:05] <glick> ?
[12:06] <glick> shuttleworth! are you in here?
[12:06] <Mithrandir> glick: sabdfl isn't here now, no.
[12:06] <glick> dont make 3d desktop default
[12:06] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: dunno, i've been inside working most of the day.  it's been raining and sunny, alternating
[12:13] <mdke> glick: powerful reasoning
[12:13] <mdke> glick: you might wanna try the usual means of discussion though, via commenting on the relevant specification, etc
[12:13] <Keybuk> jdub: damn boy, you've managed to find an ancient version of mailman, there!
[12:13] <glick> mdke, but many people dont have fancy video hardware
[12:13] <glick> what are they gonna do?
[12:13] <Keybuk> glick: not to mention providing an argument
[12:14] <jdub> Keybuk: LA mail infra sucks. i've offered to revamp the whole lot post-lca.
[12:14] <Keybuk> glick: default doesn't mean "mandatory", we already enable AIGLX by default if you have the hardware -- those without the hardware simply don't have it enabled
[12:14] <stgraber> Anyone knows if the current daily build of Feisty is installable ?
[12:15] <Keybuk> stgr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/report.html
[12:15] <Keybuk> stgraber: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/report.html
[12:16] <Keybuk> that's pretty installable
[12:16] <glick> what is the reasoning for default 3d desktop?
[12:16] <stgraber> oh, didn't know of that file, thank you
[12:17] <Keybuk> glick: see the spec
[12:18] <StevenK> I spent my Sunday at the airport.
[12:18] <StevenK> I would have prefered to be at my computer, to be honest.
[12:21] <Hobbsee> heya pitti
[12:21] <pitti> Hobbsee: I spent my entire Saturday refactorizing the apport UI and writing test suites
[12:22] <pitti> Hobbsee: long train rides are excellent for that :)
[12:22] <StevenK> Cloakroom?
[12:23] <pitti> StevenK: see crash-reporting spec
[12:23] <pitti> bbl
[12:24] <Hobbsee> pitti: woot :)
[12:26] <pitti> StevenK: bottom line is that reports can be uploaded automatically and Malone integrates the data in the report filed
[12:26] <pitti> StevenK: no more 'please attach this clumsy file name to the bug' dialog
[12:26] <StevenK> Whee
[12:27] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[12:27] <pitti> on the distro sprint I'll work with Bjorn to actually get Malone working for that :)
[12:27] <pitti> thus I develop it in a branch for now
[12:28] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[12:28] <pitti> argh, feisty's gnome-terminal reeeally sucks *grumpy*
[12:33] <StevenK> pitti: How so?
[12:34] <pitti> StevenK: it freezes pretty often, I can only close the tab and open a new one
[12:34] <Fujitsu> Works fine for me.
[12:34] <pitti> i. e. it reacts to ^C (write new command prompt), but doesn't do anything else
[12:34] <StevenK> pitti: I suggest the fix is to belt seb128 until he fixes it. :-P
[12:35] <pitti> StevenK: great idea!
[12:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:36] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: now it's not good manners to belt females...
[12:37] <StevenK> Indeed.
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[01:05] <mneptok> HI!
[01:05] <pitti> hey Kurt!
[01:06] <mneptok> morgen pitti
[01:07] <ogra> moin
[01:07] <mneptok> i need to lock myself in a text editor with e-mail text i don't want to write
[01:07] <mneptok> *grmbl*
[01:07] <Hobbsee> mneptok: you could just avoid it
[01:07] <Hobbsee> hey ogra
[01:08] <ogra> hi Hobbsee
[01:08] <mneptok> Hobbsee: it's ... it's ... *like you've been sitting next to me for 36 hours*  ;)
[01:09] <Hobbsee> mneptok: haha. "why put off till tomorrow what you can put off till next week?"
[01:10] <mneptok> as a Buddhist, my procrastination can extend across incarnations
[01:11] <StevenK> Ahhh, so babies aren't just lying around doing nothing, they're procrastinating from previous lives.
[01:12] <mneptok> *building
[01:13] <StevenK> "And when I can lift the hammer."
[02:14] <mdke> Mithrandir: link to your script on your latest blog post seems to still point at 0.2
[02:15] <mdke> Mithrandir: or maybe you didn't bump up the version number
[02:20] <geser> mdke:  http://err.no/src/contentless_ping.pl has 'my $VERSION = "0.3";'
[02:22] <Mithrandir> mdke: I believe you are the victim of a proxy. :-P
[02:26] <mdke> Mithrandir: hmm. my isp?
[02:26] <Mithrandir> 7f11ac3fb552f0efefbbe4ecebd9e214  contentless_ping.pl
[02:26] <Mithrandir> does that match your local md5sum?
[02:27] <mdke> Mithrandir: lemme download it again
[02:27] <mdke> Mithrandir: no
[02:28] <Mithrandir> try getting http://err.no/src/contentless_ping2.pl, then?
[02:28] <Mithrandir> (same file, just a copy)
[02:28] <mdke> Mithrandir: I got the original file after clearing firefox cache, all is now well
[02:29] <Mithrandir> oh, ok
[02:29] <mdke> is it supposed to do that?
[02:30] <Mithrandir> I don't think I'm sending out expires headers, so yeah, except it should have been picked up by if-modified-since or something like it.
[02:31] <mdke> Mithrandir: see if the script works?
[02:32] <Mithrandir> mdke: ping
[02:32] <mdke> Mithrandir: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.
[02:32] <Mithrandir> yeah, works fine.
[02:32] <mdke> \o/
[02:32] <Mithrandir> you can /set contentless_ping_action to change the text, etc if you want to.
[02:33] <Mithrandir> similarly /set contentless_ping_regexp to change the regex it uses to pick up pings.
[02:35] <mdke> Mithrandir: sure. does it pick up pings prefaced by $nick, (comma instead of colon)?
[02:36] <Mithrandir> nope, but I could fix that.
[02:38] <mdke> Mithrandir: only if you fancy it
[02:38] <Mithrandir> (done)
[02:38] <Mithrandir> set contentless_ping_regexp to $own_nick[,:]  (ping|around|ayt|((are )?you )?there)[!?.] ?$
[02:41] <mdke> very cool
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir$ ping
[02:44] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:45] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: sure, you can work around it; the idea isn't to play some kind of escalation war game, but rather to get people to provide useful information when they ping you.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: yeah, i know :)
[02:45] <mdke> escalation war games can be fun too though
[02:45] <Hobbsee> mdke: they are!
[02:45] <Mithrandir> so I'm not going to add workarounds for everything people can think of to work around it.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: hehe, i know :)
[02:45] <Mithrandir> mdke: sure, they can be, but they can very easily turn pointless and annoying to the rest of the world. :-)
[02:46] <mdke> indeed
[05:06] <fgo496> Hello2all
[08:50] <In-love-with-TUX> i've upgrade my ubuntu to feisty but i have a problem with the acpid  it gave a message that i should do dpkg-reconfigure acpi but it still show me that acpi not configured will what should i do ?
[08:50] <In-love-with-TUX> sorry i just finnished reading the topic
[08:50] <In-love-with-TUX> :(
[09:28] <hunger> Is there a linux-image-2.6.20-5-generic already?
[09:30] <Mithrandir> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-5-generic_2.6.20-5.7_amd64.deb for instance?
[10:05] <lifeless> morning
[10:16] <somerville32> Morning
[10:20] <mdke> Mithrandir: I notice that you've built in Jedi powers to that script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/776/
[10:20] <mdke> it sees things before they happen
[10:21] <hunger> Mithrandir: Damit.... why doesn't aptitude pick that up here?
[10:21] <Mithrandir> mdke: oh, that's just because of how the internal irssi timing works out.  If it's annoying, add a sleep 0.1 before the response.
[10:21] <mdke> Mithrandir: no, I thought it was cool
[10:22] <Treenaks> "You will ping me without content... please don't"
[10:22] <mdke> lol
[10:22] <Treenaks> sounds like a Jedi mind trick
[10:22] <mdke> this is not the contentless ping you are looking for
[10:22] <Treenaks> mdke: *handwave* a contentless ping will do fine
[10:22] <mdke> haha
[10:23] <_ion> mithrandir: sleep? :-)
[10:23] <mdke> your tricks do not work on irc
[10:23] <_ion> mithrandir: How about Irssi::signal_add_last?
[10:23] <Mithrandir> _ion: oh, sure, that should work too, I guess.  I've never pretended to know my way around irssi programming. :-P
[10:23] <Mithrandir> _ion: patches accepted.
[10:24] <Treenaks> Mithrandir: ah, true Perl style: 'Patches welcome' :)
[10:24] <Mithrandir> Treenaks: heh. :-)  I'm just lazy.
[10:25] <Treenaks> Three great virtues of programming are laziness, impatience, and hubris. - Larry Wall
[10:25] <Treenaks> anyway, gone :)
[11:26] <jc-denton> hi all
[11:26] <jc-denton> where is the .config of the offical ubuntu kernel?
[11:26] <jc-denton> i thought that the config is also somewhere accessible through proc
[11:26] <jc-denton> but forgot how
[11:26] <_ion> ls /boot/config*
[11:27] <jc-denton> [17183300.392000]  ipw2100: eth1: No response from Symbol - hw not alive
[11:27] <jc-denton> [17183300.396000]  ipw2100: eth1: Error loading microcode: -5
[11:27] <jc-denton> [17183300.396000]  ipw2100: eth1: Failed to power on the adapter.
[11:27] <jc-denton> [17183300.396000]  ipw2100: eth1: Failed to start the firmware.
[11:27] <jc-denton> woops
[11:27] <jc-denton> sry
[11:27] <jc-denton> /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[11:27] <jc-denton> ok that looks good thank you
[12:08] <shawarma> jc-denton: It's true that the linux kernel makes this possible (through CONFIG_IKCONFIG), but as we always ship the config in /boot, there's really no need to bloat the kernel image with it.


[07:35] <Rhonda> Guess it's too late now to request tmux 2.2 into xenial. :)
[07:36] <Rhonda> (ok, was only just yesterday uploaded to Debian unstable)
[07:38] <dholbach> ping the release team and ask if it's important
[13:52] <Rhonda> Yay!
[13:53] <Rhonda> For all those who didn't believe in me anymore … (that is, including myself …):  packages.ubuntu.com now also shows the architectures from ports.  \o/
[13:53] <Laney> nice!
[13:53] <Laney> you made it support the split archive thing?
[13:54] <Rhonda> Well …  I used the existing code and finally got around to understood the configuration for it and adapted the configuration.  >.>
[13:54] <Laney> heh
[13:56] <rbasak> Rhonda: thank you!
[13:57] <Rhonda> There are some tiny bits that needs to get adjusted still though: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/s390-tools  *hides*
[14:13]  * Rhonda . o O ( let's see if that removal of "deb" b0rked it all … )
[14:16]  * Laney knows who is whispering in Rhonda's ear
[14:21] <Rhonda> ssh
[14:21] <Rhonda> Laney: silence, I'll kill you
[14:40] <Rhonda> Wait.  Do I read this correctly, libunbound2 was in precise in universe but moved to main since trusty?
[14:41] <rbasak> Rhonda: rmadison agrees.
[14:42] <Rhonda> sweet. :)
[15:57] <Rhonda> yay me!  http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/s390-tools now says ports instead of debports!
[15:58] <Laney> high five
[19:11] <Unit193> Logan: Wow, thanks for commenting!  And, debdiff(s) attached, now.
[19:11] <Logan> you're welcome
[19:14] <Logan> I'll probably just use grab-merge :P
[19:14] <Logan> easier than sponsoring merge debdiffs
[19:16] <Unit193> Logan: Well you know me, always have a dsc: https://sigma.unit193.net/source/apt-cacher-ng_0.9.1-1ubuntu1.dsc :P
[19:16] <Unit193> But, that works too. :3
[19:16] <Logan> haha too late
[19:21] <Unit193> Hey that just means your name on it rather than mine in case something goes wrong. :>
[19:22] <Logan> ahh, the life of a sponsor
[19:22] <Unit193> I've been using 0.9.1-1 for a couple weeks or so now, so no real issues.  I had to edit the config as the patch does no good for me, in terms of by-hash.
[19:23] <Logan> but do you know if the patch works well with 0.9.1?
[19:24] <Logan> like, continues to work properly?
[19:24] <Unit193> It should for normal use, yeah.  I just have a weird and patched up mini-dinstall.
[19:25] <Logan> ok


 vorlon, that's who you are to disagree with them :P
 (What the heck is the difference again?)
[00:11] <arraybolt3> hah
 I thought they were the same thing, it is just what you label it. 🤷♂
[00:11] <arraybolt3> well I'll look at it and see
[00:11] <arraybolt3> I still think calling it Expat when the devs call it MIT is a bad idea though, just for the record.
[00:11] <arraybolt3> We paste the full license text in for a reason.
 I agree with you
 https://ghinda.com/blog/opensource/2020/open-source-licenses-apache-mit-bsd.html#possible-risks-from-difference-versions
 Debian puts Expat in parenthesis maybe that makes it better. https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/mit
[00:20] <arraybolt3> kk, I'll tweak it for the final upload
[00:24] <arraybolt3> kc2bez: https://launchpad.net/~arraybolt3/+archive/ubuntu/picom-conf/+packages
[00:28] <arraybolt3> Verified that the license is indeed MIT (Expat) and specified it as such (not in the PPA though).
[00:39] <arraybolt3> Uploading a second PPA source package with the fixed copyright file.
[00:39] <arraybolt3> I think that's all I need to now request review and sponsorship.
 It seems to test out. I can adjust things just like I did with compton-conf before.
[00:41] <arraybolt3> very nice
 I gave this a spin too. It seems to work as expected for me. It is a pretty basic test though. I only had one monitor. It passes the smoke test anyway. (re @RikMills: in ppa here: https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/sddm-merge/+packages)
[01:31] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: See the discussion I just had with vorlon in #ubuntu-devel.
[01:32] <arraybolt3> +1, I specified it as MIT (Expat) to make everyone happy
[01:33] <tsimonq2> But will vorlon be happy with that do you think :P
[01:34] <arraybolt3> Yes. He wants Expat, he gets Expat. Upstream wants MIT, they get MIT. Debian calls it MIT (Expat). Should work, I think.
[01:38] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2023-December/002400.html
[01:39] <tsimonq2> Subject: NEW packages to add to `lubuntu` packageset: qtilitools, sddm-conf, redshift-qt
[01:39] <arraybolt3> Nice!
[01:39] <tsimonq2> You know, for Dan and Walter. ;P
 XD
[02:31] <guiverc> as expected; getting try/install on both screens (full screen & same resolution; lower res screen setting resolution)....   If I select English(Aussie) the app restarts & asks again being set to English(US)
[02:34] <guiverc> If I start install; the other screen still shows language selection, and I change language + CONFIRM it appears to KILL calamares (which maybe destructive if formatting, resizing etc!!
[02:34] <tsimonq2> guiverc: While the reloaded session does say English (United States) to start, that does *not* actually reflect the currently-chosen language :)
[02:35] <tsimonq2> That's a really good point!
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Two good bugs ;)
[02:35] <tsimonq2> (The bugs themselves aren't good, the points are :P)
[02:36] <guiverc> do you want me to filing something on lp (install running currently in another room)
[02:36] <tsimonq2> At your convenience; would be good to track. Feel free to directly assign to me (you have my explicit permission :) )
[02:36] <guiverc> ack & :)
[02:53] <guiverc> what is the correct package tsimonq2   is it lubuntu-installer-prompt ??
 Yes for both :) (not sure if you're doing two bugs or combining into one, either is fine)
[03:27] <guiverc> i've done two bugs 2046099 & 2046100 but no description yet on them
[03:27] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2046099 in lubuntu-installer-prompt (Ubuntu) "lubuntu calamares - noble issue 1  (lubuntu-installer-prompt)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046099
[03:27] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2046100 in lubuntu-installer-prompt (Ubuntu) "lubuntu calamares - noble issue 2  (lubuntu-installer-prompt)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046100
[03:42]  * guiverc hopes bug reports now make [some] sense
 Followed up on both, don't forget to subscribe lubuntu-packaging :) thanks for your help!
[05:11]  * arraybolt3 ships Eickmeyer a barrel of coffee
[05:12] <arraybolt3> "stealth grilling" me over bug severity is awesome, I had zero clue that was a test and not an actual disagreement
[05:24] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: XD
[05:24] <arraybolt3> also thanks for the extra info on the signond bug report, I think the crash course you, Simon, and the rest of the devs gave me has really helped me learn a lot more about what I'm doing.
[05:25] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: You showed excellent judgement, and for that I applaud you.
[05:25] <arraybolt3> I might ask for peer review even after gaining MOTU just so make sure I don't blow anything up :)
[15:55] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3_tl: peer review> That's the way it should be. :)
[15:55] <arraybolt3_tl> Maybe I can talk you into co-patch-piloting with me the first couple of flights :D
[15:56] <tsimonq2> That works for me! Once you have MOTU, follow up with me and we'll schedule one or two hour long flights just to get you started. :)
[15:56] <arraybolt3_tl> man, nervousness is growing, got about 4 minutes and counting... (and one DMB member doesn't seem thrilled about doing the grilling right now so we're not sure if it'll happen at all today)
[15:57] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3_tl: Out of anyone who has ever applied for MOTU, *you* have no reason to be nervous :D
[15:57] <arraybolt3_tl> lol
[15:57] <tsimonq2> And I mean that. :P
[15:57] <arraybolt3_tl> Thanks :)
 Good luck! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3_tl> man, nervousness is growing, got about 4 minutes and counting... (and one DMB member doesn't seem thrilled about doing the grilling right now so we're not sure if it'll happen at all today))
[16:25] <tsimonq2> Just an FYI, QA testers: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.20.0-2ubuntu1
[16:37]  * tsimonq2 lunch - mostly $dayjob focus this week
 thanks! (re @kc2bez: I gave this a spin too. It seems to work as expected for me. It is a pretty basic test though. I only had one monitor. It passes the smoke test anyway.)
 Hi, just wanted to report that there seems to be a superposition of items on the website (menu + title). Here I selected the menu : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/bd022ac2/file_10218.jpg
 I'm using Google Chrome
 It looks fine in Firefox though
 not really (re @Rodrigo: It looks fine in Firefox though)
 It's a question of the windo size. If it is narrow enough, the meny and title get in the same space
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Oh fun.
 css issues
[18:08] <arraybolt3> I guess that's another reason to rewrite the website :P (we already have a growing stack of reasons why we want to rebuild the whole site from scratch)
[18:08] <arraybolt3> I am able to reproduce the issue over here.
[18:13] <tsimonq2> I'm doing many things today, digging into Wordpress CSS is *NOT* one of them, I'm sorry. :P
[18:13] <Eickmeyer> #SimonsFault :P j/k
[18:13] <tsimonq2> Hey this one is Raf's fault.  If it is narrow enough, the menu and title get in the same space)
 the theme in use on lubuntu.me base website isn't mobile-optimized (i.e. when WindowDimensions < CertainThreshold, it squishes everything into a sandwich menu, etc.
 mmm... hamburgers...
 🍔


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[09:45] <AlanBell> go Cheri703
[09:45] <AlanBell> tabfail
[09:45] <AlanBell> charlie-tca isn't online
[09:46] <AlanBell> but wrote a great email to the web presence team list


[23:12] <maerciba5> anyone works on fonts here?
[23:13] <maerciba5> or is familiar with rendering and fonts


[03:33] <norunomu> Hey guys
[03:34] <norunomu> Would anyone here be able to let me know the rough time for 11.10's release?
[03:41] <norunomu> It's fairly important
[03:50] <nigelb> Nope.
[03:50] <nigelb> There isn't a time.
[03:50] <nigelb> It will be released when ready
[03:50] <nigelb> Sometime after UK wakes up
[03:53] <akgraner> yep it all depends on if they had to respin or not etc and how quickly it takes all the mirrors to seed and the official announcement to go out
[03:54] <akgraner> I'd watch the devel-announce mailing list norunomu
[03:54] <akgraner> as soon as the official announcement goes out we'll put it on the Fridge
[05:00] <norunomu> Awesome, thanks guys.
[05:00] <norunomu> Sorry for the late reply
[09:34] <akgraner> norunomu, no worries :-)
[12:56] <pleia2> akgraner: you prepped to handle the announcement on fridge?
[12:56] <akgraner> yeppers
[12:56] <pleia2> ok great :)
[12:56] <akgraner> as soon as I 1) see the announcement or 2) skaet pings me
[12:57] <pleia2> I have to get the xubuntu announcement, and I have a company meeting in 3 hours (actually have to leave in 2.5)
[12:57] <pleia2> er, get the xubuntu announcement out
[12:59] <akgraner> It should be on the release announcement as well
[12:59] <akgraner> at least it was for the beta :-)
[13:00] <pleia2> yeah, I meant on xubuntu.org :)
[13:02] <akgraner> :-)
[13:12] <Pendulum> pleia2: feel weird to be going to a company meeting in person?
[13:12] <pleia2> Pendulum: we do it about once a year, so I'm getting used to it :)
[13:27] <akgraner> pleia2, it's on the Fridge now :-)
[13:27] <pleia2> \o/
[17:42] <akgraner> Looks like the Fridge is down again
[17:42] <akgraner> I just filed an RT Ticket as soon as I get a number I'll forward to the editors list
[18:04] <akgraner> sent to the list :-)


[21:29] <lynorian> with gnome-mpv is there a reason gnome-mplayer is on the artful install ?
[21:30] <lynorian> or live session
[21:30] <lynorian> all it seems to offer is more crashes


[01:52] <valorie> lookin' good, @rikmills
[01:53] <valorie> husband and I played hooky today and just relaxed in the cool of the cabin
[01:53] <valorie> 90F here


[00:12] <Fritigern> What the... I just rebooted my machine and my .config doesn't seem to be read. Icons are missing or icons from the humaniy set are used. Also stuff requires a double-click to open now. The hec is going on??? .config and .local are still there, and are accessible, and have the proper perms and owner
[00:49] <Fritigern> Well now. I renamed .config in an attempt to restore default settings, but the icons are still MIA
[00:49] <Fritigern> The icons being from the Breeze theme
[00:55] <willief> cant get logged into new install of 15.10 with plasma
[00:55] <willief> enter passwd, hit return, screen blanks for few secs then kicks me back to login screen
[01:07] <skierpage_> willief: you could try switching to a terminal (Alt-Ctrl-F1), see if you can login from that, and if so start looking for errors.
[01:08] <willief> Im trying that with jasonvw in #kde right now
[01:09] <skierpage_> willief: OK, good luck. In `journalctl` look for "dm" (I can't remember if Kubuntu uses lightdm, or kdm, etc. as its greeter), there should be some error somewhere
[01:09] <willief> what is the KDM display managere service called    I thought it was kdm but service stop kdm fails and I dont see an obv alternative
[01:10] <willief> journalctl.... god
[01:10] <willief> err good hint .... thx
[01:10] <skierpage_> willief: it's OK ;) ... beats grinding through all the /var/log stuff (assuming all the /var/log routes into journalctl)
[01:12] <willief> it's sddm btw
[01:15] <Fritigern> Anyone, no suggestions for my issue?
[01:18] <Fritigern> Switching icon themes does not work. I tried that but nothing happens. Missing icons remain missing, and the rest are Humanity iconsw. I want my Breeze icons back!
[01:22] <Fritigern> Ah, the joys of being ignored
[02:01] <chrisb2244> willief: Do you have /home mounted separately from your kde/sddm install?
[02:02] <chrisb2244> Or rather, is your $HOME directory potentially not mounted when you login? That can cause a similar sounding problem for me. Probably this isn't your problem, but worth a check
[04:03] <Guest41027> I have a dual boot PC...windows won't boot, a certain AVAST file is preventing it from loading....I am on kubuntu at the moment, is it possible to remove avast while using linux on my windows partition?
[04:05] <Finetundar> Guest41027: yes, you'll have to delete AVAST's install folder
[04:06] <Guest41027> Finetundar: Okay. I'll try that!
[04:06] <Finetundar> Guest41027: do you know where installed?
[04:07] <Guest41027> Finetundar: I do not.
[04:07] <Guest41027> Finetundar: I am googling it to see if I can find that answer.
[04:15] <toby_> Finetundar: Okay, I deleted those files. That error is gone, now I get "Invalid Partition Table" are you familiar with this?
[04:40] <skierpage_> command-line install completed. Rebooting, wish me luck!
[08:59] <Eluus> in the open file dialog in most programs, usb drives are not visible, how can I fix that?
[08:59] <Eluus> kubuntu 15.10
[09:48] <lexxus-lex> lsusb
[09:48] <lexxus-lex> dmegs
[09:48] <Swipe-> Anyone else having continuous problems with kmail in 15.10/
[09:51] <Swipe-> if any fixes are released with akonadiserver would they get pushed out via the normal system updates?
[10:24] <h_boyz> !list
[10:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:53] <veqz> I'm on Kubuntu 15.10 and have a laptop with one of those combined Intel & Nvidia graphics. Is Nouveau the only driver which will work for that combination? My screen sometimes starts to lag while doing normal desktop things (watching video, moving mouse around, typing, etc.), and I have been trying the proprietary drivers, but they don't seem to work, and I always have to revert to Nouveau from a console. Nouveau seemed to work smoothly on 15.
[12:53] <veqz> 04 however, so I'm really confused about what the problem is...
[12:54] <veqz> anyone have any clues?
[12:55] <soee_> proprierty drivers dont work in 15.10 with nvidia-prime
[12:55] <BluesKaj> veqz, how do you mean the proprietary drivers don't work ?
[12:55] <veqz> what's nvidia-prime?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> nvidia-prime shouild be installed by default anyway
[12:56] <veqz> when rebooting, the screen remains blank. I go to a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and uninstall nvidia stuff, and reinstall x and nouveau, and after a reboot I'm up and running again
[12:57] <veqz> I had to use Nouveau on 15.04 as well, so I don't have any real complaints about it, except for in 15.10, where it tends to suddenly lag for a second every ~5-30 seconds
[12:58] <BluesKaj> veqz, make sure as soee_ says that nvisia-prime is installed, if not install it, then install the proprietary driver. It's a hit and miss with theose hybrid gpus systems
[12:58] <veqz> just apt-get install nvidia-prime?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> yes with sudo
[12:59] <veqz> hm. seems it wasn't installed
[13:00] <veqz> so should I try just going to the Driver Management in System Settings and choosing one of the binary nvidia drivers and see if it goes better this time?
[13:01] <soee_> BluesKaj: it wont work
[13:01] <BluesKaj> soee_, I've seen it work a few times
[13:01] <soee_> we can't use proprierty drivers in 15.10, Ubuntu simply is broken in this part
[13:02] <veqz> what's changed since 15.04?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> veqz, you're on 15.04 right ?
[13:02] <veqz> no 15.10
[13:02] <BluesKaj> oh
[13:02] <soee_> in 15.04 - yes it worked fine, they broke it in 15.10
[13:03] <veqz> should I uninstall nvidia-prime again? :)
[13:05] <soee_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1501041
[13:05] <veqz> hm ok
[13:06] <soee_> well you can have nvidia-prime and drivers installed
[13:06] <soee_> but just use intel profile
[13:06] <BluesKaj> veqz, seems you need to regress to 15.04 then. I still use 14.04LTS as my main OS
[13:06] <soee_> if they fix it some day, than switch to nvidai profile
[13:08] <veqz> hm okay
[13:08] <soee_> BluesKaj: i like to use latest releaes to test all the new stuff but you are right, if someone want stable system, he should stick to LTS
[13:09] <veqz> I'm rather loath to reinstall my OS again, so I guess I'll reconsider it if I can't find some way to live with this
[13:09] <BluesKaj> soee_, I have both a test OS/16.04, and a stable OS 14.04LTS
[13:10] <veqz> is there any procedure to try and hunt down why nouveau seems to lag a bit? and logs I can check?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> veqz, there's no real sacrifice running 15.04 vs 15.10, there's not much difference except your Optimus gpu syatem works
[13:11] <BluesKaj> that's my opinion of course
[13:12] <veqz> I'd still have to reinstall though, and be stuck with Plasma 5.3 iirc...
[13:19] <BluesKaj> veqz, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kde-plasma-plasma-5-4/
[13:21] <veqz> thanks. that seems helpful if I do decide to go back to 15.04
[13:53] <Artlu> Hi! I'm having issues with my sound devices. I have a laptop internal sound card, and an USB headset. And when trying to set the input to the USB device, it uses the internal sound card. Also when I select the internal sound card, it also uses it. So there is no possibility to use the USB device, it's always using the internal device.
[13:54] <Artlu> I already tried to delete every .pulse and gstreamer config directories, but it didn't help.
[13:54] <Artlu> any chance of fixing this?
[13:56] <Artlu> kubuntu version is 15.10 by the way (upgraded from 15.04, but the issue also occured with 15.04)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Artlu, so you have no sound at the usb port, correct ?
[14:16] <Artlu> BluesKaj: Playback works, but when I try to use the USB device for sound capturing, it's using the internal laptop sound card
[14:18] <Artlu> BluesKaj: However, both capture devices (internal and USB) are getting displayed in KMix and I can select both in any program, but there's no difference whether I choose the internal card or the USB device
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Artlu, so you expqaec the usb device to work as a sound card ?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> expect rather
[14:22] <Artlu> BluesKaj: Of course, it's an USB headset, so for playback and recording. It also worked fine until a few days ago.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Artlu, check as root, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and make sure any usb options with a -2 index are either changed to a 0 or 1 , or you can comment them with a # then at the bottom there should be a line for usb that you can change from index=-2 to 0 or 1
[14:27] <BluesKaj> this used to work , but no guarantees
[14:28] <BluesKaj> unless of course your headset shows up in alsamixer F6 and you can choose it as card0 there
[14:29] <Artlu> Okay, thanks. I already tried commenting out everything snd-usb related, but there was no change. I can also try setting it to 1 manually.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> then do sudo alsactl store
[14:30] <BluesKaj> you have to reboot after changing the alsa-base conf file
[14:30] <Artlu> Yes, I can choose the device as the default device in alsamixer. number is 2. 0 is internal device, 1 is HDA NVidia, and 2 is my USB device
[14:32] <Artlu> so I'll reboot now and see if the changes in alsa-base.conf help. I'll let you know
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Artlu, you can move it up to the top in system settings>multimedia>device preference>music and test it there as well
[14:36] <Artlu> BluesKaj: still the same
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Artlu, you can move it up to the top in system settings>multimedia>device preference>music and test it there as well
[14:38] <BluesKaj> which audio chips are we dealing with here btw?
[14:40] <Artlu> Yeah, I already moved it to top for everything.
[14:40] <Artlu> How do I get the name for the sound devices?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> aplay -l is one
[14:41] <BluesKaj> lspci -nn | grep -i audio is another
[14:43] <BluesKaj> and for the audio drivers,  cat /proc/asound/modules
[14:44] <Artlu> This is what I get with the 3 commands: https://paste.kde.org/pzguanqyw
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Artlu, ok,  which audio player do you use?
[14:48] <Artlu> audio playback is working everywhere. VLC, chrome, firefox, teamspeak, skype, ... but recording is not working. I tried with TeamSPeak and audacity
[14:51] <BluesKaj> unfortunately I have very little experience with recording using headphones to monitor the audio
[14:52] <BluesKaj> especially usb 'phones
[14:53] <BluesKaj> are you using the spdif out to record ?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Artlu,^
[14:54] <BluesKaj> oops to monitor rather
[14:54] <Artlu> I used Audacity and TeamSpeak for monitoring the recording. no spdif
[14:56] <BluesKaj> what is  your recording setup ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Artlu, are you using mics or inputs from other devices or..?
[15:01] <Artlu> My laptop microphone is working fine. Only the headset microphone doesn't seem to work
[15:02] <Artlu> So whatever I choose as my input device, it always captures from my laptop microphone
[15:04] <BluesKaj> yes, usb audio devices can be a challenge, even the usb outboiard sound cards are difficult
[15:06] <somekool> is there special package to run KDE from recent git source? like RC or Alpha releases ?
[15:07] <alexandr> Доброго времени суток! В shutter  проблема с кириллицей. Если русские имена окон, то отображаются крякозябры. Кубунту 15.10. Подскажите пожалуйста, в какую сторону копать?
[15:07] <Artlu> BluesKaj: It worked a few days ago, so I thought there are just some problems with the settings. Can I reset the sound settings to default somehow?
[15:07] <somekool> alexandr: I am not too sure, but 15.10 definitely sound good
[15:14] <BluesKaj> !ru | alexandr
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Artlu, did you upgrade packages ?
[15:17] <Artlu> BluesKaj: sure, I always install updates.  I don't know how to do it though.
[16:10] <Smurphy> I managed to get most non working things to work now, hence I'll keep it.
[16:11] <Fleck> it's slow, don't show systray icons and many more problems with it
[16:12] <Smurphy> Did you upgrade ?
[16:12] <Fleck> yep :(
[16:12] <Smurphy> in that case, go to: .config, and delete all plasma related stuff with: rm -fv plasma*
[16:13] <Fleck> aaand yes, also, two monitor setup, plasma does not rememmber my desktop settings :D
[16:13] <Fleck> ok, I can do that
[16:13] <Smurphy> before that, log out, when sddm shows up, Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, and delete all the plasma related stuff out of .config as breviously explained.
[16:13] <Fleck> yes, yes, not so dumb :D
[16:13] <svend-ev> Good morning
[16:13] <Smurphy> Then, go back to sddm with: Alt-F7, log in, and it should put some plain defaults.
[16:14] <Smurphy> That's what I did.
[16:14] <Smurphy> Yo svend-ev
[16:14] <Fleck> I think I made new user and tried Smurphy, same problems were there :D
[16:14] <Smurphy> Then I don't know where it comes.
[16:15] <Fleck> I am so sad I did install plasma 5 ;(
[16:15] <Smurphy> you unter Ubuntu 15.10 ?
[16:15] <Fleck> yes, I have 15.10
[17:48] <Naizugai> How do I change the start of the week in the calendar?
[17:49] <Smurphy> In settings
[17:51] <Naizugai> Looked under "Regional Settings", but I don't see any option to change it. I'm running 15.10 btw.
[17:54] <steveire> Hey, I just upgraded to 15.10, and knode seems to be gone. aptitude show knode shows it, but attempting to install it has no effect...
[17:55] <steveire> Is that deliberate?
[17:56] <steveire> Damn, it's been deleted from kdepim :(
[18:11] <BluesKaj> steveire, yeah knode is no longer supported
[18:11] <steveire> Going to try to change that :)
[18:13]  * BluesKaj wishes he could rid of pim altogether, along with akonadi and baloo
[18:13] <BluesKaj> useless to me
[19:27] <excalibr> Hmm the new icon sets from kubuntu-ci look sort of out of place with the default breeze theme
[19:31] <excalibr> http://i.imgur.com/ZSFXNZM.png
[19:38] <dougiel> how do I stop gui in 14.04
[19:38] <dougiel> trying to install nvidia drivers
[19:38] <Unit193> Drop to a TTY and  sudo service lightdm stop  ?
[19:39] <dougiel> Unit193, will try that from ssh login ok?
[19:39] <Unit193> Same deal, just not a terminal emulator.
[19:42] <ocnios> Testing
[19:50] <dougiel> so before I severely screw something up what is a difinitive method of installning nvidia drivers?
[19:50] <Unit193> Using jockey?
[19:52] <dougiel> using control panel now
[19:54] <dougiel> let see waht this piece of crap looks like now after a reboot
[20:13] <heinkel_111> hello
[20:13] <heinkel_111> I am installing kubuntu as second OS on my win8 PC
[20:14] <heinkel_111> both OSes work, but it automatically loads windows by default
[20:15] <heinkel_111> to start kubuntu I need to do it manually from BIOS setup screen
[20:15] <heinkel_111> hang on...I think I just found out what I need to do
[20:16] <soee_> :)
[20:16] <soee_> uo can edit grub configuration and change order
[20:17] <heinkel_111> it doesnt start grub, that is the problem, just loads windows directly
[20:17] <heinkel_111> but I think if I change boot device in BIOS that should do it
[20:18] <soee_> you have instaled Kubuntu after Windows ?
[20:18] <heinkel_111> yes
[20:18] <soee_> if grub was installed on different disk or not primary partition where probably mbr record is
[20:18] <dougiel> different HD
[20:18] <dougiel> ?
[20:18] <heinkel_111> as I said, both OSes work, so I should be pretty close to success
[20:21] <heinkel_111> grub is installed same partition as kubuntu
[20:24] <heinkel_111> seems this fixed it, it was that easy
[20:25] <heinkel_111> I am not as much of a hacker as I used to be, that must be the conclusion :-)
[22:15] <tute> hh
[22:15] <tute> ff
[22:42] <sam_> Hello. Is there any way to enable scrolling while moving the mouse inside of KDE Plasma windows? I can't seem to get it to work.
[22:49] <bprompt> sam_:     what do you mean?
[22:56] <sam_> bprompt, when inside a terminal, or dolphin, or any plasma supplied GUI,  mouse wheel scrolling isn't recognized unless I don't move the mouse. It however does work in third party applications like browsers
[23:00] <bprompt> hmm
[23:02] <bprompt> sam_:    not sure you can enable it anymore than you can disable it either, is default setting for me for that matter
[23:02] <bprompt> sam_:    and it's not in System Settings, because it's meant to be a default behaviour
[23:03] <sam_> Hmm, I figured. Well, thank you for your time!
[23:58] <Letr5ts> Simple firewall for KUbuntu - What is recommended?


[14:19] <ubiqutiy> 这有人么？
[14:22] <ubiqutiy> cfhowlett
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !
[14:22] <cfhowlett> yep
[14:22] <ubiqutiy> 为啥让我来这
[14:22] <ubiqutiy> 这，没人
[14:22] <cfhowlett> I don't speak/read/understand Chinese.  sorry.
[14:22] <ubiqutiy> #ubuntu-devel
[14:23] <ubiqutiy> exit


[01:47] <rick_h> Well glad it stopped. Some fun times in the truck today.
[01:47] <rick_h> Triple shovel day
[02:30] <cmaloney> heh
[13:08] <Scary_Guy> driving last night/this morning was nerve racking even in the light traffic.  of course dealing with drunks at 3:30AM is never fun