[07:23] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, Again, if KDE caused the problems, editing your xorg.conf won't fix them
[07:23] <scguy318> smmagic: what app?
[07:23] <rsk> ozzcomet: change feisty to gutsy
[07:23] <smmagic> Umm lieroX
[07:23] <smmagic> Probably never heard of it
[07:23] <smmagic> I'll put exact error
[07:24] <lewis1711> Jordan_U, what should I do then? uninstall KDE? and do you know how to create another xorg.conf file as I dont have one
[07:24] <lewis1711> oh wait yes i do
[07:24] <ykfff> wckdkl0wn: try a normal user on that box root accses might be disabled which is a good idea anyway
[07:24] <lewis1711> but hmm
[07:24] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, to copy back your old xorg.conf that worked ( which xorg.conf-bak hopefully is ) run "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:24] <scguy318> smmagic: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3232&iTestingId=6804 might be of interest
[07:24] <Gustavo> what happens www.ubuntu.com ?
[07:24] <timfrost> bone, do you have gpm installed?  That gives copy/paste in a text-mode terminal (ALT-F1, etc)
[07:24] <underwatercow> what does this mean? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 18 11:06:58 2007
[07:24] <musikgoat> wckdkl0wn: can he ssh user@localhost?
[07:24] <scguy318> smmagic: I'm surprised it hasn't been tested in along time, perhaps you would like to be the first to test for latest 0.9.47?
[07:24] <TECH_1> loo
[07:24] <bone> timfrost, i was joking as well, but thanks for at least trying to diagnose whats going on.
[07:25] <lewis1711> Jordan_U that backup did work *until* I installed KDE. I did not mess with my xorg.conf file until KDE caused this problem
[07:25] <lewis1711> so that file no longer 'works'
[07:25] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, You probably just need to go into the KDE settings GUI somewhere and choose the resolution you want, but that will only work with a working xorg.conf
[07:25] <smmagic> Failed to set the video more 640x480x16
[07:25] <aribs> why everybody is downloading gutsy ??? cannot just wait ...
[07:25] <lewis1711> Jordan_U I am unable to do so
[07:25] <lewis1711> as soon as I installed KDE it stuck me on one resolution
[07:25] <smmagic> ErrorMsg: DirectDrawSurface: :Release: UNknown
[07:25] <lewis1711> and when I rebooted everything was stuck in giant mode
[07:25] <scguy318> smmagic: perhaps you would like to file a bug?
[07:25] <smmagic> DirectDraw error: 0x1
[07:25] <Artemis3> aribs, because torrents work better with lots of people :)
[07:26] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, And you tried KDE's resolution switcher *before* touching your xorg.conf ?
[07:26] <scguy318> smmagic: this game has not been tested since 20050524
[07:26] <smmagic> Great..
[07:26] <lewis1711> yes, Jordan_U, there were no options to change resolution in the KDE GUI
[07:26] <aribs> owh
[07:26] <lewis1711> I had once choise
[07:26] <TECH_1> I clicked on (clean boot) in boot up mngr and it fixed my resolution
[07:26] <lewis1711> actually...it would let me move the slider but the screen resolution changes wouldn't take effect
[07:26] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, I am sure there are, you just missed them, ask in #kubuntu where it is
[07:26] <Lunz> how do i upgrade my firefox?
[07:26] <smmagic> So it doesn't work..
[07:26] <arooni> i need to fun fsck on my ubuntu 7.04 desktop from a live cd.  what command line options should i pass it when i boot from livecd?  i want it to repair every file system possible.
[07:27] <scguy318> smmagic: apparently not, I'll obtain and file
[07:27] <stone-unix> hey, buddy, does anyone know "ashleigh" means originally?? i need it urgently. i am from china.
[07:27] <lewis1711> no, I was at the place where you change resolution. I changed it, and nothing happened
[07:27] <bozni> Can someone help me with mounting my ntfs windows raid partition?
[07:27] <nysosym> everything works fine :)
[07:27] <nysosym> but the sound is a little bit crappy on my macbook, against osx
[07:27] <nysosym> sounds like an old radio :D
[07:27] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, Ahh, that is not the same as there not being an option :)
[07:27] <Beket> Hello people. Isn't there a livecd for 7.x ?
[07:27] <smmagic> That was a fun game..
[07:27] <lewis1711> yeah, whoops;)
[07:27] <stone-unix> hey, buddy, does anyone know "ashleigh" means originally?? i need it urgently. i am from china.
[07:27] <[chr0n0s]> Beket : there is
[07:27] <wckdkl0wn> musikgoat, Permission denied (publickey,password). thats what he gets
[07:28] <scguy318> smmagic: in the interim, you may wish to consider a VM solution
[07:28] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, What about when you log into gnome instead of KDE?
[07:28] <stone-unix> a friend asked me just now.
[07:28] <lewis1711> oh and to make matters more interesting I now have two screen resolutions to choose from all of a sudden, and now my NVIDIA graphics driver is not enabled. I am really confused
[07:28] <scguy318> smmagic: kinda overkill but it probably should work
[07:28] <Beket> [chr0n0s]: It's not linked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Would please be so kind as to redirect me ?
[07:28] <Wooderson> ok i need some help
[07:28] <scguy318> !ask
[07:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:28] <smmagic> Can VM be installed with winxp upgrade disc?
[07:28] <musikgoat> wckdkl0wn: and he used his correct username?
[07:28] <wckdkl0wn> yes
[07:28] <lewis1711> Jordan_U, I am in XFCE 4 right now
[07:28] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, After running the command I gave to restore your old working xorg.conf that is
[07:28] <unikon> how long will it take  until 7.10 will be available on ubuntu.com?
[07:28] <lewis1711> should I try gnome?
[07:28] <musikgoat> then ssh is not setup correctly
[07:28] <scguy318> smmagic: i believe you can, there are ways to install full from upgrade discs, but lemme lookup
[07:28] <scguy318> smmagic: and if you have a physical Windows partition you can run the VM off that
[07:28] <Wooderson> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[07:28] <smmagic> ..
[07:29] <lewis1711> Jordan_U, it was only working until I installed KDE. but I'll try and restart in gnome
[07:29] <smmagic> And I deleted windows about 10 mins ago
[07:29] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, No, I am just wondering if there is any DE that gives you full res, does XFCE?
[07:29] <smmagic> ****!
[07:29] <nanonyme> !gutsy > nanonyme
[07:29] <Weng_Lap> Hrm. The nzb package that's on the repository is broken with the current version of openssl.
[07:29] <musikgoat> wckdkl0wn: hold on a sec
[07:29] <scguy318> Wooderson: add the user to vboxusers
[07:29] <[chr0n0s]> Beket : any CD of ubuntu is a live CD, you can install it as an OPTION
[07:29] <Wooderson> what do i open the file with ?
[07:29] <nanonyme> is it released already?
[07:29] <Wooderson> it like doesnt open =\
[07:29] <stj> join #wine
[07:30] <Beket> oh thanks [chr0n0s], I didn't know that
[07:30] <MTughan> #wehatevista
[07:30] <stone-unix> hey, buddy, does anyone know "ashleigh" means literally? i need to know urgently.
[07:30] <keycool1> how long will it take  until 7.10 will be available on ubuntu.com?
[07:30] <Wooderson> scguy318: how do i open the file
[07:30] <TECH_1> loo vista
[07:30] <alromaithi> !gutsy
[07:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:30] <scguy318> Wooderson: what file?
[07:30] <cdm10> !topic | nanonyme
[07:30] <ubotu> nanonyme: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:30] <[chr0n0s]> keycool1 : we are hoping less than 24 hours
[07:30] <Wooderson> scguy318: vboxusers file in /dev
[07:30] <Jordan_U> keycool1, 1 hour after the last person who asks
[07:30] <Ademan> does that mean like 12 midnight? or what? what time on the 18th? lol
[07:30] <fredj> Does anyone know what the deal with the Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon release is?
[07:30] <scguy318> Wooderson: i said add the user you want VM access to the vboxusers group: sudo usermod -a -G disk <username>
[07:30] <Ademan> hahahahahah
[07:30] <riotkittie> nobody knows what time.
[07:30] <Ademan> oh man
[07:31] <scguy318> Wooderson: well,
[07:31] <fredj> It said it was released like 2 hours ago. then it changed and said "Beta" is now available
[07:31] <smmagic> Is virtualbox just as good as VMWare?
[07:31] <scguy318> Wooderson: sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers <username>
[07:31] <Ademan> like 3 people asked the same question as me within 20 seconds of each other
[07:31] <TECH_1> Some time today it will be up
[07:31] <scguy318> smmagic: probably, doesnt hurt to try, though the USB support is slightly lacking imho
[07:31] <Ademan> also, the channel is inflated to 1400 people, crazy
[07:31] <alromaithi> WHERE IS GUTSY
[07:31] <Jordan_U> smmagic, They both have pros and cons
[07:31] <Weng_Lap> Hrm. I guess there's a release tonight.
[07:31] <astro76> !caps | alromaithi
[07:31] <ubotu> alromaithi: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:31] <astro76> !topic | alromaithi
[07:31] <ubotu> alromaithi: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:31] <rsk> aixing: BEHIND YOU!
[07:31] <smmagic> Everything with the pros and cons
[07:31] <riotkittie> gutsy is in the same place your ability to turn caps off is, i assume
[07:31] <CITguy> alromaithi: It's already come and gone. You missed it.
[07:31] <Wooderson> scguy318:  ok brb let me see if it worked
[07:31] <TECH_1> loo
[07:31] <bone> Do you guys realize that no matter when its released, the servers will be swamped. wait a few days.
[07:31] <RvGaTe^work> morning
[07:31] <unikon>                                        /join #ubuntu-release-party
[07:32] <fredj> Wheres Gutsy?
[07:32] <prakriti> weeeeeee
[07:32] <MTughan> unikon: use /say
[07:32] <TECH_1> Laggers
[07:32] <siriusnova> bone - thats why smart people download the RC and just do a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade :P
[07:32] <siriusnova> a few days prior
[07:32] <siriusnova> hehe
[07:32] <astro76> fredj, #ubuntu-release-party
[07:32] <bone> siriusnova Sush.. hehe
[07:32] <lewis1711> Jordan_U, I logged into xubuntu again and everything seems to mysteriously work. what I think must've happened is KDE did something to my graphics driver. I don't know. I'm really confused. but at least it works.=D
[07:32] <prakriti> I've been running gutsy for about 2 weeks now.
[07:32] <arooni> hey folks.... i have 3 hard drives.... they were working great just a couple days ago.  recently ubuntu has been freezing so i needed to restart my computer .  anyway, now 2 hard drives don't show up anymore in the bios..... what seems wrong ,and what can i do?
[07:33] <TECH_1> How do U like it prak
[07:33] <MTughan> And since this is a Linux thread, #wehatevista
[07:33] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, KDE almost certainly did not do anything to your driver
[07:33] <prakriti> Its nice, runs well.
[07:33] <TECH_1> What features R better
[07:33] <alromaithi> almost certainly lo
[07:33] <prakriti> Printer support is much better.
[07:34] <TECH_1> I c
[07:34] <musikgoat> wckdkl0wn  does your friend have a ~/.ssh  directory?
[07:34] <TECH_1> Hp imaging?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, KDE can choose between the resolutions the X has setup, those being the ones in your xorg.conf, for some reason it is making the wrong choice. BUt it has nothing to do with the driver, or a problem with your xorg.conf
[07:34] <prakriti> Eye candy is stock, so I don't have to use trevino repositories.
[07:34] <musikgoat> wckdkl0wn: if not,  have him type ssh-add
[07:34] <TraceGreen> Hello, Can i install grub under Windows? In another word, are there any grub for windows?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, This isn't windows, things are modularized :)
[07:34] <prakriti> TraceGreen : grub is before windows
[07:34] <meeper> man, synergy is hands down the coolest computer program I've ever seen
[07:34] <lewis1711> hmmm
[07:34] <alromaithi> lewis1711, its due to the updates that made that , and now the other update fixed it :D
[07:35] <lewis1711> so many conflicting things happened I have no idea.
[07:35] <abuyazan> hi all
[07:35] <meeper> it completely solves all my problems haha
[07:35] <lewis1711> I am afraid to log back into Kubuntu though incase things screw up again
[07:35] <Andre_Gondim> where's the gutsy release?
[07:35] <abuyazan> how can i install traditiona arabic font on ubuntu
[07:35] <Wooderson> that didnt work
[07:35] <nrdb> TraceGreen: Windows uses its own boot loader, so I don't think so.
[07:35] <alromaithi> Andre_Gondim, today is 18th but didthey say what time :D
[07:35] <abuyazan> acrobat reader cannot read this font
[07:35] <alromaithi> i believe its 8 - 11 hours from now
[07:35] <TraceGreen> prakriti, I mean, I run grub-install /dev/*da in linux, are there any exe file , which can run in windows.
[07:35] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, Seems pretty simple to me, a bug in KDE choosing the wrong resolution would seem to explain everything you have said
[07:36] <smmagic> Just get relase candidate
[07:36] <TraceGreen> nrdb, Ok, thanks
[07:36] <musikgoat> alromaithi: your just guessing
[07:36] <lewis1711> Jordan_U, even my graphics card mysterious disabling itself?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> TraceGreen, There is, but it's not easy
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> Urg. PulseAudio is a pain in the arse to setup.
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> heh
[07:36] <alromaithi> musikgoat, no , i know bunt :)
[07:36] <lewis1711> and not being able to change my resolution in any desktop?:/
[07:36] <Andre_Gondim> alromaithi, =]
[07:36] <Jordan_U> lewis1711, You didn't tell me about that :)
[07:36] <rredd4> how do you "paint fire on the screen"  I have that enabled.
[07:36] <lewis1711> haha, yeah, that's why I am so confused
[07:36] <JaYmZ> i want gutsy!!
[07:36] <Jordan_U> rredd4, Look at what the keyboard shortcut is set to
[07:36] <astro76> JaYmZ, join #ubuntu-release-party
[07:37] <JaYmZ> k
[07:37] <JaYmZ> thanks
[07:37] <JaYmZ> :D
[07:37] <lewis1711> the important thing is, it's working and I don't have a headache anymore;)
[07:37] <Wooderson> ok say i installed a program i dont want anymore how do i uninstall it?
[07:37] <nrdb> TraceGreen: if you want to run grub, you could boot from the LiveCD, mount the applicable drive and run grub and specify the config file to use.
[07:37] <astro76> Wooderson, how did you install it?
[07:37] <Wooderson> .deb file
[07:37] <astro76> Wooderson, in Synaptic, or apt-get remove packagename
[07:38] <Wooderson> astro76:  ok 1 sec
[07:38] <scguy318> Wooderson: use Synaptic
[07:38] <ykfff> Wooderson: sudo apt-get remove package name
[07:38] <Wooderson> synaptic?
[07:38] <scguy318> Wooderson: Synaptic Package Manager
[07:38] <rredd4> Jordan_U  ty  very cool!
[07:38] <scguy318> Wooderson: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:38] <Wooderson> i gotcha
[07:39] <TECH_1> loo everyone flocked to releaqse
[07:39] <Ademan> 1400 users!
[07:39] <blue42> it's not out yet though right?
[07:39] <TECH_1> Attention walmart shoppers
[07:39] <Ademan> aw damn
[07:39] <[Gutsy]willwill> http://whsgroup.ath.cx/~whs/image/gutsy.jpg <-- No, You can't have a Gutsy
[07:39] <Ademan> stupid macintosh
[07:39] <musikgoat> spoke too soon
[07:39] <Ademan> and chowmeined
[07:39] <rav> hey, is the gutsy Upgrade in my update manager the final release version, or the beta version?
[07:39] <alromaithi> when updating from feisty to gutsy must i remove my install thirdparty compiz that wasnt from the repo
[07:40] <Boumboum5> you can still get the RC (beta release version) right now--it's nearly identical to the final release.
[07:40] <Ademan> rav: doesn't matter either way it'll be upgrading to the "final" version at some point in time, just go for it
[07:40] <astro76> alromaithi, I would considering gutsy includes it now
[07:40] <Wooderson> where exactly am im looking
[07:40] <leladia> pls what command should i use to remove the sixth character of every line in a file?
[07:40] <Boumboum5> alromaithi: yes. I saw a webpage from a guy who says he's working on writing a tutorial on how to do that.
[07:40] <scguy318> Wooderson: search for whatever the package is that you want to remove
[07:40] <Ademan> leladia: why do you want to do that? and honestly i think #bash might be a better place for that question
[07:40] <scguy318> Wooderson: then just click the box for that package, mark for (complete) removal, then apply
[07:40] <aribs> [Gutsy]willwill: http://whsgroup.ath.cx/~whs/image/gutsy.jpg --> connection refused
[07:41] <scguy318> Wooderson: im assuming its virtualbox?
[07:41] <scguy318> Wooderson: did my group suggestion not work?
[07:41] <Wooderson> ya lol
[07:41] <Wooderson> i found a tutorial on how to install it correctly
[07:41] <alromaithi> so i must remove compiz which was installed from a thirdparty  like forexample the get , but not from repo , i think its dangerouse to update because the built in compiz will clash with thiis one i have unless i remove it ? Or gutsy checks for the identical and do it for me?
[07:41] <RvGaTe^work> can anyone confirm that the "Western Digital Caviar SE 200GB" works on ubuntu?
[07:42] <Wooderson> got it ok
[07:42] <Flannel> alromaithi: You're better off removing third party stuff
[07:42] <astro76> alromaithi, yes that's exactly what I said (remoe it)
[07:42] <Wooderson> now im gonna follow this tutiorial extactly
[07:42] <alromaithi> how do  you lo
[07:42] <Boumboum5> Wooderson: cool! :)
[07:42] <alromaithi> i had a tutorial on installing it
[07:42] <scguy318> alromaithi: Synaptic or apt-get/aptitude remove
[07:42] <Ayabara> need some help here. I booted into windows to fix something, and when I booted back into ubuntu something was a bit wrong. all applications seem to work, but, the title bar and frame around the apps are gone. I run compiz.
[07:42] <alromaithi> no man , its not a package .deb
[07:42] <alromaithi> omg :( i need a pro
[07:42] <[Gutsy]willwill> aribs$ sorry, that on my home server
[07:42] <scguy318> alromaithi: used a script? does the script not have removal?
[07:42] <scguy318> RvGaTe^work: I can't confirm 100%, considering that I don't possess such a hard drive, but I imagine it probably does
[07:42] <alromaithi> i have installed it manually through terminal doing step by step file by file plugin b plugin
[07:43] <[Gutsy]willwill> aribs$ fixed
[07:43] <Boumboum5> RvGaTe: I can't confirm...but I can testify that I have a 500 gb SATA II drive that works just fine with Ubuntu.
[07:43] <nysosym> how can i activate something like expose in gutsy gibbon?
[07:43] <alromaithi> i am the script scguy318
[07:43] <Flannel> alromaithi: Did you install to /opt or /usr/local by any chance?
[07:43] <alromaithi> but i dont know how to rescript my script lo
[07:43] <DShepherd> nysosym, shift+alt+up
[07:43] <heartsblood> Is gutsy live now?
[07:43] <towlie> i just installed ubuntu 7.10 and enabled gl desktop. what do i press to view the desktop in cube mode ?
[07:44] <Boumboum5> heartsblood: one more day.
[07:44] <DShepherd> heartsblood, not that we know of
[07:44] <kiru> strg+alt + left mouse
[07:44] <Blue42> ayabara: chances are that's because "beryl-manager" is not running
[07:44] <Boumboum5> towlie: i suspect you need to download a compiz fusion manager....
[07:44] <heartsblood> hmm, the site counter says 00 for me
[07:44] <alromaithi> hmmm how do i know Flannel
[07:44] <nysosym> DShepherd: that's a good start thx, but is it possible to aktive them with the top right corner called active edges?
[07:44] <astro76> heartsblood, yes, sometime today
[07:44] <towlie> Boumboum5, i did
[07:44] <towlie> i just installed ubuntu 7.10 and enabled gl desktop. what do i press to view the desktop in cube mode ?
[07:44] <DShepherd> nysosym, yeah,. install the compiz config manager
[07:44] <heartsblood> oh, 'sometime' today. didn't think about that
[07:45] <kiru> why is 7.10 not yet released in germany?!?!?
[07:45] <towlie> i did install compiz config manager
[07:45] <Flannel> alromaithi: uh, what are some binaries from compiz?    Relatively speaking
[07:46] <aribs> towlieba: what is so damn slow ???
[07:46] <compengi_> RvGaTe^work, check the post of FSO
[07:46] <heartsblood> I have a question about the feitsty install cd and SATA raid disks.  The install application sees the SATA drives indepedantly not as part of a raid.  Is this normal, or if not what do to get the installer to format ext3 across both disks in the aray/
[07:46] <Gasten> Hey.. Can someone tell me if this ATI-OS-thing includes _all_ the Radeon cards? Is the Radeon X1300 PCI-E Pro supported?
[07:46] <Wisteso> spam much?
[07:46] <alromaithi> huh >D
[07:46] <astro76> aribs, no need to repeat...
[07:46] <DShepherd> !find compizconfig-settings-manager gutsy | nysosym thats the name..
[07:46] <ubotu> nysosym thats the name..: Found: compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:46] <Flannel> alromaithi: However, the makefile has an uninstall: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showpost.php?s=6b7e5b29f075c335aca1fa70a90fb29b&p=16634&postcount=8
[07:47] <aribs> astro76: sorry my mistake ...
[07:47] <RvGaTe^work> compengi_, perfect, thx :)
[07:47] <Boumboum5> RAID is outside my competence. :(  I'm still learning Ubuntu myself.
[07:47] <compengi_> RvGaTe^work, np :)
[07:47] <Flannel> alromaithi: or, so that forum claims anyway.  Even if it doesnt, since its in your local stuff, its definatey doable
[07:47] <heartsblood> hmm
[07:47] <alromaithi> fflannethanks now i can update
[07:47] <fiveofoh_settler> #ubuntu-release-party
[07:47] <fiveofoh_settler> rrr
[07:47] <alromaithi> do i go for rc version of gutsy or wait for release?
[07:48] <Boumboum5> Gasten: ALL the ATI cards? not likely. But at worst, you should still be able to use Ubuntu with any ati card you have--you simply might not be able to take full advantage of the card's features.
[07:48] <arooni> folks, im trying to boot from the live cd, (nvidia graphics card, and intel core2 duo), i get: busybox: can't access tty; job control turned off
[07:48] <arooni> any idea son how to fix
[07:48] <Ayabara> Blue42: beryl-manager is not even installed, but it worked before I rebooted.
[07:48] <Ayabara> Blue42: do I need beryl-manager to run Compiz?
[07:48] <DShepherd> alromaithi, what ever makes you happy..
[07:48] <Gasten> alromaithi: the realese is today, so wait!
[07:48] <no_mind> is gutsy based on  2.6.22 kernel ?
[07:48] <DShepherd> alromaithi, they all lead to the same end
[07:48] <musikgoat> no_mind: yes
[07:48]  * [Gutsy]willwill operation cwal
[07:48] <astro76> Gasten, well the tradeoff is the servers will be bogged upon release ;)
[07:48] <alromaithi> thanks all
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Anyone know around how long until Dell starts shiping with Gutsy?
[07:48] <musikgoat> 2.6.22-14 is my beta
[07:49] <Wooderson> how do i get module assistant?
[07:49] <musikgoat> *my kernel in the beta
[07:49] <minus_> Meh! Havn't they release 7.10 yet :(
[07:49] <Terros> Anyone have fluxbuntu screenshots?
[07:49] <scguy318> arooni: try booting with all_generic_ide kernel option
[07:49] <jscinoz> no gutsy final yet? :'(
[07:49] <scguy318> arooni: else just install with alternate CD
[07:49] <thoreauputic> jscinoz: /topic
[07:49] <heartsblood> What I dont understand is why it will let me format each disk independantly.   Well that's a lie, I havn't actually formated them out of fear of the unknown.  I can however see each device in the partiion wizard and select ext3 partion sizes.  One thing to note however is only one of the drives is listed as having "Free space" and i'm wondering if that is significant.
[07:49] <scguy318> smmagic: i reproduced your error
[07:49] <Wooderson> scguy318: sudo module-assistant is an unknown command...
[07:49] <Boumboum5> alromaithi: I have read, that to beat the "rush hour" with possible down servers due to excessive demand, get the RC version now...then when the final is available just run "update" and that'll convert the RC to Final for you...without having to download the whole final thing.
[07:49] <Gasten> Boumboum5: well, I was only asking about the radeon-family.. There is so many different information about which cards is OS'ed out there...
[07:49] <Blue42> ayabara:  try starting the compiz-manager
[07:50] <musikgoat> Terros: fluxbuntu?  seems ironic when torrent flux has its own interface
[07:50] <scguy318> Wooderson: sudo apt-get action module-assistant?
[07:50] <smmagic> Thankyou
[07:50] <scguy318> Wooderson: what are you trying to do with it?
[07:50] <Blue42> ayabara: that thing might not be started when you rebooted
[07:50] <Gasten> Boumboum5: I'm browsing for new hardware, so that's why I'm concerned.
[07:50] <K-4U> Hi, i have just put in another graphical card in my ubuntu box. and if i now start ubuntu, it tells me 'no screens found' How can i easilly reconfigure my xserver?
[07:50] <Wooderson> sudo module-assistant prepare
[07:50] <Wooderson> sudo module-assistant update
[07:50] <Terros> musikgoat, fluxbuntu.org
[07:50] <DShepherd> !find compizconfig-settings-manager gutsy | Ayabara  that the name of the manager
[07:50] <ubotu> ayabara  that the name of the manager: Found: compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:50] <Terros> But only small screen up there.
[07:50] <Terros> I wonns see that big.
[07:50] <Terros> ^_^
[07:50] <musikgoat> Terros: yeah i see that nice to see
[07:50] <Terros> *wonna
[07:51] <scguy318> Wooderson: you trying to install module-assistant? just do sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[07:51] <scguy318> Wooderson: seems awful lot of work just for VirtualBox, the deb works just fine
[07:51] <tw2113> omg omg omg ubuntu ships soon *boner*
[07:51]  * enyc meeps
[07:51] <Boumboum5> Gasten: yes, true. Ubuntu video card support is pretty good now, though--but not perfect.
[07:51] <Wooderson> i like tutorials
[07:51] <musikgoat> Terros: is this wrong? http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pos=-782
[07:51] <Kaepora> Shouldn't 7.10 be released now?
[07:51] <Kaepora> Anywhere I can download?
[07:51] <Boumboum5> tw2113: O.o
[07:51] <VoX> Kaepora: look at the topic
[07:51] <astro76> Kaepora, why?
[07:51] <minus_> Kaepora, I say the same...
[07:51] <slimjimflim_> anybody know how to get divx support in firefox?anybody know how to get divx support in firefox?
[07:51] <K-4U> i have just put in another graphical card in my ubuntu box. and if i now start ubuntu, it tells me 'no screens found' How can i easilly reconfigure my xserver?
[07:51] <Ayabara> Blue42: nothing happens even if I start up ccsm
[07:52] <minus_> It should be released! :P
[07:52] <slimjimflim_> *just once
[07:52] <scguy318> K-4U: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:52] <Gasten> Boumboum5: okay. I have great beliefe in the open source comunity, so I'll go with it...
[07:52] <scguy318> K-4U: in Recovery Mode
[07:52] <K-4U> scguy318: thnx
[07:52] <Blue42> ayabara: ok... you using an nvidia card by chance?
[07:52] <scguy318> Wooderson: your tutorial is making you do alot of work lol
[07:52] <Boumboum5> Kaepora: not yet, from what I hear.....any hour now though... lol
[07:52] <Terros> musikgoat, this is ugly 7.04 design. I though someone see beta 7.10.
[07:52] <Wooderson> ya well better to learn the hard way i guess.. it will make me learn some of the commands
[07:52] <Ayabara> Blue42: nope. ati graphics
[07:53] <kaushal> hi
[07:53] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim_, right click -> Open in Movie player
[07:53] <musikgoat> Terros: i c
[07:53] <slimjimflim_> jordan-U, i mean to play streaming, embedded divx
[07:53] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim_, once you have done that it will work in the browser from then on
[07:53] <kaushal> when i look for ubuntu 7.10 it still isnt available for download
[07:53] <Terros> You have some screens from it?
[07:53] <slimjimflim_> ok
[07:53] <net_mask> Thu Oct 18 00:53:29 MDT 2007 : where is the iso!!!
[07:53] <net_mask> :P
[07:53] <Boumboum5> Terros: the look of the desktop is highly customizable....I had a theme that made it look like vista..there's other themes that reproduce OS X and many other different looks and color schemes and designs.
[07:53] <[Gutsy]willwill> @now
[07:53] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 18 2007, 06:53:56 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day
[07:53] <Blue42> ayabara: see if this forum topic has the solution for you... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545806
[07:53] <kaushal> it was supposed to be released today
[07:54] <cdm10> kaushal: look at the topic
[07:54] <astro76> !topic | kaushal
[07:54] <ubotu> kaushal: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:54] <Blue42> ayabara: seems to have what you describe
[07:54] <tw2113> someone want to e-mail me when gutsy ships?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim_, Totem will grab the codecs you need, and it will use them in it's firefox plugin as well
[07:54] <motin_0> so..... when does 7.10 come? 18-okt-2007 08:54
[07:54] <tw2113> please?
[07:54] <K-4U> scguy318: great! it works. thnx a lot!!
[07:54] <tw2113> i don't know how to use the interweb
[07:54] <K-4U> motin_0: which timezone?:P
[07:54] <Boumboum5> still only 11:54PM here in Seattle.
[07:54] <scguy318> K-4U: np
[07:54] <kaushal> thanks
[07:54] <motin_0> K-4U: GMT+1
[07:54] <mindrape> tw2113 - sure!   In small screen fluxbunto 7.10 i see something interesting.
[07:54] <slimjimflim_> maybe my problem is that totem isn't installed
[07:54] <[Gutsy]willwill> now it 1.54 pm in bangkok(with ntp)
[07:54] <K-4U> motin_0: okay.. the time looked fammiliour
[07:55] <tw2113> no, that'd be creepy
[07:55] <tw2113> besides i practice nudism half the time
[07:55] <motin_0> the counter looks rather strange saying 00 days :)
[07:55] <alromaithi> Flannel, i did make uninstall for each folder lo
[07:55] <Wooderson> scguy318:  i think your right this tutorial isnt working =\
[07:55] <SoulChild> hey all i have a samsung q45 and although modulke ipw3945 is loaded i have no wireless lan device, please help
[07:55] <slimjimflim_> nm
[07:55] <alromaithi> still compiz effects are working tho Flannel
[07:55] <motin_0> and linking to the beta
[07:55] <motin_0> rc
[07:55] <enyc> tw2113: mayxe there is an announce list
[07:55] <Boumboum5> Terros: I hope to make my own theme when I become more expert in Ubuntu's innards.
[07:55] <MickeyFin> hmm is there any tool like cp but that shows the bitrate with which is copying?
[07:55] <Terros> Flux seems like ugliest wm ever. xD Hope that fluxbuntu change that.
[07:55] <tw2113> doh, stupid me
[07:55] <scguy318> Wooderson: the deb does the job perfectly tbh
[07:55] <tw2113> where's that at? fedoraproject.org?
[07:56] <astro76> tw2113, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[07:56] <[Gutsy]willwill> Terros$ isn't icewm or wmaker look more ugly?
[07:56] <tw2113> doh, stupid me again
[07:56] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim_, That would do it :) "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla"
[07:56] <Boumboum5> heh
[07:56] <slimjimflim_> jordan_U, i can't click on it, i just get 'click here to download plugin' and then it says intstall manually
[07:56] <slimjimflim_> ohok
[07:56] <Flannel> alromaithi: You need to do it in the folder with the source.  That of course assumes you still have that folder
[07:56] <tw2113> so how about that swirly wallpaper
[07:56] <motin_0> so - can we expect users being able to upgrade this time you think?
[07:56] <motin_0> for me dapper -> edgy failed
[07:56] <motin_0> so I reinstalled when feisty got there to be able to go from dapper -> feisty
[07:57] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim_, It should be installed by default though, don't know why you don't have it already
[07:57] <slimjimflim_> kubuntu maybe?
[07:57] <Boumboum5> tw2113: yuck....I swapped it out for another....a forested nature scene.. :)
[07:57] <Terros> [Gutsy]willwill, IceWM can look preaty clean.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> motin_0, You will have to go Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty
[07:57] <scguy318> MickeyFin: file managers can probably show progress, like Midnight Commander
[07:57] <slimjimflim_> jordan_U, it's all good, those packages worked
[07:57] <Terros> Flux always look like something not complitted yet.
[07:57] <tw2113> back when i had feisty on my laptop, i put in fedora's DNA wallpaper
[07:57] <slimjimflim_> ty
[07:57] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim_, np :)
[07:58] <Boumboum5> <--not really into the brown/orange color theme of Ubuntu.....but otherwise it's one of the best linux distros I've tried--the first one to recognize both my wifi card and my nvidia graphics card right out of the box.
[07:58] <alromaithi> Flannel, but i did what fyda explained , i dont understand so i delete the files from my home folder ? isnt the program running in the heart of linux with the lib files ? i remember installing many lib's :/
[07:58] <motin_0> Jordan_U: nope, I installed feisty on top of dapper partitions, then restorted /home and /etc + some other stuff from backup
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Boumboum5, sudo apt-get install blubuntu-look
[07:58] <Boumboum5> Jordan_U: cool :)  lemme try that! :)
[07:58] <Flannel> alromaithi: No.  Don't delete your home folder.  Your home folder won't need to be deleted.  The stuff you need to delete is some of the files in /usr/local/, things in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib, and so on
[07:59] <blayde> Jordan_U: does that change the usplash theme as well?
[07:59] <Ademan> Flannel: sudo rm -Rf /usr/local  ?
[07:59] <Flannel> Ademan: No
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Boumboum5, It will just add new themes and desktop backgrounds, you have to actually select them IIRC
[07:59] <Jordan_U> blayde, No
[07:59] <Weng_Lap> On the subject of looks... Are there any plans for a 64bit Ubuntu Studio? Like, ever? So I don't have to hack and slash and break things to make visual theme work on 64bit Ubuntu?
[07:59] <Boumboum5> brb...rebooting into Ubuntu (I'm in Win XP now)
[07:59] <shtoom> Hi I was trying to upgrade to gusty from fawn using "update-manager -d"  after full day of downloads its now throwing a lof errors any help or how to about fixing this , now even update manager it self is not starting
[07:59] <musikgoat> anyone know how to cat html from a live page?
[07:59] <alromaithi> Flannel, thanks now i know what program files mean in linux lo
[08:00] <Boumboum5> Shtoom: you can't upgrade directly from any version earlier than Feisty.
[08:00] <KoweSix> problem: i mount an encrypted container file (on an external ntfs file, container also ntfs).. it's mounted, but i cant access it via the gui/cli... but when i start for example xmms via cli with "sudo xmms", i can browse the directories on it and play stuff.. anyone got a clue how to get access for it?! Oo
[08:00] <astro76> musikgoat, wget?
[08:00] <Weng_Lap> musikgoat: Some piping from wget probably.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> shtoom, What kind of errors, can you pastebin them?
[08:00] <Flannel> Weng_Lap: 32bit themes should work on 64bit ubuntu
[08:00] <Boumboum5> brb
[08:00] <ActySofts> I'm wondering if the 64-bit version can be also used on intel's core duo & core quad?
[08:00] <Flannel> Weng_Lap: or rather, there's no difference between 32 and 64bit themes
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Flannel, I would hope so :)
[08:00] <musikgoat> thanks astro76 and Weng_Lap
[08:00] <lewis1711> do i need to restart before changes I make in "preferred applications" take place?
[08:01] <alromaithi> Flannel,  last question :( i cant delete them no permission
[08:01] <ld> hi, I'm confused, on www.ubuntu.com I see that I can get the "7.10 beta" version of ubuntu and that the "final version will be available on the 18th of october"... so if I download 7.10 now, what will I get, the beta or the final 7.10 version?
[08:01] <dublpaws> musikgoat: elinks -dump www.yourpage.com
[08:01] <Weng_Lap> Flannel: Yeah, they do, but it's a pain to get it since there's no x64 repository for Ubuntu Studio
[08:01] <shtoom> Boumboum5:I am upgrading from fiesty fawn
[08:01] <kiru> where do i find when ubuntu will be released in .de?
[08:01] <tw2113> so, how does one ubuntu himself?
[08:01] <musikgoat> dublpaws: i'll check that out
[08:01] <Flannel> Weng_Lap: ah, you should ask in #ubuntustudio, theyre the people that do it
[08:01] <Lunz> anyone using youtube-2x here?
[08:01] <heartsblood> Does anybody know if FAKEraid is part of the Gutsy install package?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> tw2113, Very carefully
[08:01] <MickeyFin> scguy318, yeah mc shows it thx
[08:01] <astro76> kiru, it will be released everywhere in the world at the same time, some time in the next 24 hours
[08:01] <Flannel> heartsblood: You'll want the alternate CD
[08:01] <Weng_Lap> Flannel: Good point.
[08:01] <Flannel> alromaithi: you'll need to use sudo
[08:01] <kiru> astro76: it is not yet released?!
[08:02] <scguy318> MickeyFin: np
[08:02] <alromaithi> Flannel, sudo ? sudo delete ? or :/
[08:02] <astro76> kiru, you expected it at 12:01 am? ;)
[08:02] <heartsblood> Flannel: I was wondering about that, the alternate cd has the dmraid package?
[08:02] <ccharles> is it safe, to do a "do-release-upgrade" inside a feisty chroot (to get the chroot up to gutsy)?
[08:02] <Ayabara> Blue42: thanks for the tip, but it doesn't seem to work
[08:02] <Lunz> !youtube
[08:02] <astro76> kiru, /join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <student23> What packages do I have to reconfigure to get the main console have appropriate characters?
[08:02] <Flannel> heartsblood: yeah, alternate CD has support for RAIDs and LVM and stuff like that
[08:02] <kiru> astro76: I expected it at midnight, GMT + 2
[08:02] <tw2113> does it take a certain level of maturity to do ubuntu yourself right?
[08:02] <ActySofts> can the 64-bit version be used on intl's core duo & quad cpus?
[08:02] <JaYmZ> !youtube
[08:02] <shtoom> Jordan:there were a lot many errors that were reported during upgradation process the dialogs were such that I couldn't do much about them finnaly I've seen in update manager terminal "updating geany " and updat manager disappeared after that
[08:02] <heartsblood> ahhhh
[08:02] <astro76> kiru, that's kind of silly
[08:02] <endlessurf> can you to to systems update manager to get gutsy yet?
[08:03] <DShepherd> endlessurf, not until its out
[08:03] <kiru> astro76: you think i am silly?
[08:03]  * ld is frustrated
[08:03] <endlessurf> but it is thurday
[08:03] <vega-> kiru: yes
[08:03] <Jordan_U> shtoom, Can you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the output?
[08:03] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of the currently mounted filesystem 'varrun' which the df command shows? I could not google its function.
[08:03] <heartsblood> Flannel, do you know where I could find the gutsy alternate x86_84 alternate image?
[08:03] <endlessurf> DShepherd it is 1203
[08:03] <DShepherd> endlessurf, yeah its thursday here too.. not sure whats the hold up
[08:03] <Flannel> alromaithi: you're going to have to prefix your commands with sudo to get them to work on system directories.  If you want to do it graphically, alt-f2 then `gksu nautilus` and it'll open a root nautilus window.  Delete stuff and close that window as soon as possible.  DONT use it to do anything else.
[08:03] <vega-> kiru: it gets released when it gets released, stop asking
[08:03] <endlessurf> hahha ok
[08:03] <DShepherd> endlessurf, its 2:03 :-)
[08:03] <Flannel> heartsblood: Gutsy isn't released yet, but the alternate images are in the same places as the desktop images
[08:03] <endlessurf> haha right right
[08:04] <kiru> vega-: is it my fault that you mother dont like you anymore?
[08:04] <shtoom> Jordan: I've ran that command please wait I'll give the pastebin link
[08:04] <kiru> stop being so aggressive, dude
[08:04] <vega-> kiru: read the topic
[08:04] <endlessurf> DShepherd just for giggles and passing time, what is your favorite program
[08:04] <Blue42> Ayabara: I guess the next tip would be to check this page: http://compiz.org/ATI
[08:04] <alromaithi> you mean restart computer Flannel
[08:04] <kiru> vega-: leave me alone
[08:04] <heartsblood> Flannel: no?  I read that somebody was downloading the gutsy alternate image a couple days ago.
[08:04] <Flannel> alromaithi: No, close the window it brings up (it'll be a file browser sort of thing)
[08:04] <alromaithi> k
[08:04] <vega-> kiru: foo
[08:04] <DShepherd> endlessurf, pidgin maybe..
[08:04] <Jordan_U> heartsblood, That was the release candidate
[08:04] <Flannel> heartsblood: that was the RC, final is being released sometime within the next 24 hours or so
[08:05] <heartsblood> ah
[08:05] <kiru> vega-: b***h
[08:05] <Blue42> Ayabara:  I had a similar problem with beryl on nvidia card, the titlebar just went missing after reboot... ended up that a line in the xorg.conf file was missing
[08:05] <astro76> !guidelines | kiru vega-
[08:05] <ubotu> kiru vega-: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:05] <Ayabara> Blue42: the window decoration was not turned on at all. maybe that was the issue..
[08:05]  * bhuey is having a lot of trouble with his gutsy upgrade
[08:05] <Blue42> Ayabara: ... or that
[08:05] <kiru> !guidelines astro76
[08:05] <lap> damn
[08:05] <heartsblood> Flannel: Would it be bad to download the RC?  I would really like to get my server back online.
[08:05] <alromaithi> Flannel, how to delete i type cd /usr/local/lib now im in theyr i see the compiz files
[08:05] <lap> gutsy make us waiting.
[08:05] <lap> :/
[08:05] <Flannel> !cli | alromaithi
[08:05] <ubotu> alromaithi: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:05] <vega-> well is it so hard to read the topic? this channel has enough text scrolling without somebody asking "is gutsy released, is gutsy released?" every 1 minute
[08:05] <Jordan_U> bhuey, Should ask about his troubles, we may be able to help :)
[08:06] <kiru> !guidelines | astro76 vega-
[08:06] <jflash> hi, i'm trying to install python-twisted using aptitude but it's giving me 404 Errors
[08:06] <ubotu> astro76 vega-: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:06] <jflash> what should I do?
[08:06] <scguy318> vega-: the proper way would be to point out the topic with the !topic command
[08:06] <shtoom> Jordan: here isthe link http://pastebin.com/d31eda405
[08:06] <vega-> all the readl problems/discussion get lost in worthless crap
[08:06] <KoweSix> problem: i mount an encrypted container file (on an external ntfs file, container also ntfs).. it's mounted, but i cant access it via the gui/cli... but when i start for example xmms via cli with "sudo xmms", i can browse the directories on it and play stuff.. anyone got a clue how to get access for it?! Oo
[08:06] <Flannel> heartsblood: the RC will be more or less the same, some packages might change, but its no different than downloading the final in a week, and needing some upgrades to get up-to-date
[08:06] <endlessurf> DShepherd, is the only reason you are up is because you are waiting for the new release
[08:06] <vega-> scguy318: perhaps yes
[08:06] <Jordan_U> jflash, Try a different mirror or wait until the release crazyness is over
[08:06] <bhuey> Jordan_U, thanks, I'm getting tons of dm-linear message at the console for the kernel at start up
[08:06] <scguy318> KoweSix: you shouldnt be running xmms as root :P
[08:06] <bhuey> what's up with that ?
[08:06] <DShepherd> endlessurf, yeah..
[08:07] <student23> What packages do I have to reconfigure to get the main console have appropriate characters?
[08:07] <scguy318> KoweSix: u should mount the NTFS part with umask=000 or with your UID
[08:07] <DShepherd> endlessurf, i need to go to bed soon though
[08:07] <KoweSix> ye, i know.. i just wanted to test it :p atm i'm just running it as user :D
[08:07] <jflash> Jordan_U, how to try different mirror?
[08:07] <vega-> but considering every irc client should be able to display the channel topic it is not much to ask for people to actually read it
[08:07] <timfrost> bullgard4: varrun (which mounts on /var/run) and varlock (which mounts on /var/lock) are for files that *must* disappear after a reboot.  varrun holds PID files for daemon processes.
[08:07] <bhuey> also, I don't get any virtual console like I use to have
[08:07] <scguy318> vega-: true
[08:07] <heartsblood> Flannel: I have no problem with that.
[08:07] <jflash> and... release crazyness??
[08:07] <Jordan_U> jflash, System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[08:07] <tw2113> channels have topics?
[08:07] <alromaithi> so its rm :p
[08:07] <alromaithi> just say rm man lo
[08:07] <bhuey> looks like udev might be problematic as well
[08:07] <tw2113> whoa! look at that
[08:07] <KoweSix> uid = user id i guess? :] if so, i do... :]
[08:07] <jflash> no this is Putty
[08:07] <jflash> accessing a remote server
[08:07] <bhuey> and I barely hack X to get it to run because of driver issues
[08:07] <scguy318> KoweSix: yeah
[08:07] <Flannel> heartsblood: actually, at the moment you might not be able to get the RC iso, just because theyre preparing for final.  Let me look.
[08:08] <tw2113> "Gutsy will be released some time in the next 24 hours"
[08:08] <vega-> this was my point, especially at a high-volume channel like this one
[08:08] <tw2113> so that means soon, right?
[08:08] <heartsblood> ...
[08:08] <Jordan_U> jflash, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list try a different country code before the URL
[08:08] <bhuey> anybody know how to solve the dm-linear messages ?
[08:08] <heartsblood> Flannel: Just as you said that I noticed the dir was empty
[08:08] <jflash> ok
[08:08] <kiru> !language | vega- astro76
[08:08] <ubotu> vega- astro76: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:08] <astro76> !botabuse | kiru
[08:08] <ubotu> kiru: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:08] <heartsblood> Flannel: :(
[08:08] <KenSentMe> Hi, i'm running gutsy since yesterday, but now my system won't startup. At the gdm login screen i keep getting the error 'Login failed'. If i click that away it keeps coming back. I can only reboot my system. A reconfigure of gdm and xserver-xorg didn't help. Any idea how to fix this?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Torrents will always work though
[08:08] <kiru> he did not get it...
[08:08] <vega-> kiru: what language?
[08:08] <smy1220> 17 hours not 24
[08:09] <kiru> next one -.-
[08:09] <smy1220> actually 16 hours 50 min
[08:09] <vega-> kiru: there hasn't been any bad language here afaik
[08:09] <Flannel> heartsblood: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/gutsy-alternate-amd64.iso ought to do it for you
[08:09] <antler> um, i'm downloading from the site right now.
[08:09] <kiru> vega-: afaik you called me silly...
[08:09] <heartsblood> oh sweet ty
[08:09] <tw2113> doh, i don't have any computer that i want to wipe out at the moment
[08:09] <tw2113> guess ubuntu will have to wait until eventually
[08:10] <murlidhar> for me it's 12 hours 39 minutes since 18th oct
[08:10] <bhuey> anybody know about the dm-linear messages I get at boot ?
[08:10] <vega-> kiru: well, you suggested it and i just agreed :P
[08:10] <heartsblood> o.o kinda slo
[08:10] <heartsblood> slow*
[08:10] <Jordan_U> Flannel, You shouldn't have posted that, you probably got a lot of people's hopes up and / or a lot more demand for that file :)
[08:10] <murlidhar> So it is released ??????
[08:10] <Flannel> Jordan_U: yeah, I thought about putting a big disclaimer around it.
[08:10] <Flannel> murlidhar: no
[08:10] <kiru> vega-: i tried to understand what you are telling me
[08:10] <Jordan_U> murlidhar, No
[08:11] <kiru> ignore vega- *!*
[08:11] <kiru> ups
[08:11] <KoweSix> scguy318: how do i run anything via umask? 'umask=000 command' ?
[08:11] <Rabbitbunny> anybody know when the gtkpod that works on 6th gen will work?
[08:11] <bone> D4mn power flipped. Someone my firewall isnt on UPS
[08:11] <scguy318> KoweSix: no, you have to mount the NTFS partition with that flag
[08:11] <murlidhar> :) no matter i am running the gutsy!!!!!!
[08:11] <bone> somehow
[08:11] <scguy318> KoweSix: i was guessing that's why you were running xmms as root :P
[08:11] <scguy318> KoweSix: because you didnt have file permissions
[08:11] <tw2113> bye all! it's be real....weird
[08:11] <tw2113> !
[08:11] <heartsblood> wow servers must be super busy atm.  00KBps
[08:11] <Flannel> heartsblood: if you append .torrent to the end of that, you'll get the torrent, which may or may not be faster
[08:11] <endlessurf> when will gutsy be released?
[08:11] <bhuey> any suggestions ?
[08:11] <KoweSix> mhm trying ;)
[08:11] <astro76> !topic | endlessurf
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[08:12] <heartsblood> Flannel: I didn't think about that, ty again sir.
[08:12] <bullgard4> timfrost: Thank you very much for explaining.
[08:12] <shtoom> hi http://pastebin.com/d31eda405 that is dpkg --configure -a output can any one help with that
[08:12] <jflash> Jordan_U, I dont see country codes, I see this:  deb http:/deb http://mirrors.tummy.com/mirrors/ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[08:12] <Jordan_U> endlessurf, One hour after the last person asks about it
[08:12] <scguy318> KoweSix: its a simple matter of editing your fstab
[08:12] <bone> Jordan, i just got bored and upgraded :)
[08:12] <bone> got tired of waiting.
[08:12] <murlidhar> hmm.........:)
[08:12] <student23> What packages do I have to reconfigure to get the main console have appropriate characters?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> jflash, Well there's your problem :)
[08:12] <Flannel> jflash: Your not getting updates, because breezy isn't supported anymore
[08:12] <endlessurf> Jordan_U when was one hour after the last person asked about it?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> jflash, Breezy isn't suported any more
[08:13] <jflash> shit
[08:13] <jflash> so what to do
[08:13] <bone> endlessurf, you reset the hour when you asked.
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | jflash
[08:13] <ubotu> jflash: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:13] <Flannel> jflash: if you want to get new packages, there are a few old repos, but you're better off upgrading to dapper
[08:13] <Flannel> jflash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[08:13] <endlessurf> bone if it was only that way
[08:13] <bone> endlessurf, oh.. but it is.
[08:13] <endlessurf> bone i would keep asking
[08:13] <jflash> my family says sh***t all the time . how come sh**t is not family friendly?
[08:13] <nysosym> wow compiz has taken big steps
[08:13] <FluxD> how do I make my external drive and thumbdrive automount when plugged in?
[08:14] <endlessurf> bone just to entertain myself
[08:14] <bone> endlessurf, wouldnt hurt alot of us, we are already upgraded.
[08:14] <antler> jflash: that's usin' the ole noggin
[08:14] <bone> endlessurf, 2% rule. You have to be 2% smarter than the thing your working with.
[08:14] <KoweSix> scguy318: well its not thaaaat simple: i'm mounting it via 'truecrypt', because its encrypted... and if i add exec,umask=000 or anything it wont work :D
[08:14] <bernandos> where can you get gutsy? site has no download links
[08:14] <shtoom> http://pastebin.com/d31eda405
[08:15] <smmagic> Compiz fusion doesn't work on this comp =(
[08:15] <Myrtti> it's not published yet, bernandos
[08:15] <astro76> !topic | bernandos
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[08:15] <Jordan_U> smmagic, ATI card?
[08:15] <smmagic> Nope
[08:15] <endlessurf> bone if that was the case then i would not get anything done
[08:15] <Jordan_U> smmagic, What card?
[08:15] <smmagic> nVidia avanta 16mb =S
[08:15] <antler> smmagic: heheh.
[08:15] <scguy318> KoweSix: mm, not sure, might be some way to have the resulting mounted files have 777 permission or be owned by you, I would suggest checking your truecrypt docs
[08:16] <bone> endlessurf, You dont think very highly of yourself, do you?
[08:16] <smmagic> Heheh?
[08:16] <smmagic> Wtf just happened
[08:16] <jflash> what old repos can I use?
[08:16] <smmagic> This tab made its own windows
[08:16] <endlessurf> bone eh if you knew me you would know the humor
[08:16] <jflash> i dont want to go for a full upgrade
[08:16] <Jordan_U> jflash, Why not just upgrade to dapper?
[08:16] <KoweSix> mhm best option would be to save those decrypt those stuff in xp, and then encrypt it again under ubuntu -.-
[08:16] <bone> endlessurf, just commenting. I actually did chuckle at the statement.
[08:16] <endlessurf> I am one of those people who start the download last but finish downloading first
[08:16] <cOOL> hy
[08:16] <jflash> cz i dont know anything about linux
[08:16] <jflash> ?
[08:17] <jflash> what if my site stops working?
[08:17] <jflash> what if apache stops working?
[08:17] <astro76> jflash, there are none... releases are supported for 18 months, LTS releases for 3 years or 5 years for server
[08:17] <shtoom> dpkg --configure -a giving me core dumped can any one help
[08:17] <astro76> jflash, so it sounds like maybe you want LTS releases... 6.06 was one and 8.04 will be
[08:17] <shtoom> http://pastebin.com/d31eda405
[08:17] <heartsblood> Flannel: Wow the torrent was a huge improvement.  done already, ty again sir!
[08:17] <Jordan_U> jflash, Running breezy your site is more likely to get hacked
[08:17] <basti> moinmoin
[08:17] <gordonjcp> jflash: are you running a production server?
[08:17] <jflash> dev
[08:18] <Boumboum6> Back. Wasn't able to get online in Gutsy
[08:18] <gordonjcp> jflash: on *breezy* ?"
[08:18]  * Jordan_U wishes his internet connection was as fast as heartsblood's
[08:18] <basti> someone knows when Gutsy is going to be released?
[08:18] <astro76> !topic | basti
[08:18] <ubotu> basti: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:18] <jflash> well that's what tummy.com gave me
[08:18] <Flannel> jflash: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  is the old releases mirror, but really, you're not getting any security updates (and haven't in the past six months), you ought to upgrade.
[08:18] <Boumboum6> ubuntu's wifi on my machine is weaker than XP's...for some reason.
[08:18] <Jordan_U> basti, Not true, nobody does
[08:18] <bone> My 10mb charter cable downloaded the 244MB in like 5 minutes.
[08:18] <jflash> the account is like 1 year old thou
[08:18] <heartsblood> Jordan_U: fiber :)
[08:18] <Boumboum6> basti: within 24 hours
[08:18] <Jordan_U> basti, It's dependent on truly random radioactive decay
[08:19] <Boumboum6> lol Jordan
[08:19] <student23> I can't make some text-based apps display "/" character, anyone knows why?
[08:19] <smmagic> I want compiz fusion! TT
[08:19] <jflash> i will upgrade after I heard from my provider. but not tonite. i will try the old repos, thanks
[08:19] <bone> heartsblood, fios???? Man, I wish they would get that here.
[08:19] <Jordan_U> student23, You need to escape it with another /
[08:19] <heartsblood> yes sir
[08:19] <Boumboum6> student: it's a holdover from "C"....
[08:19] <bone> heartsblood, i heard they had scrapped that.
[08:19] <alromaithi> ok it took me 10 minutes to delete 4 files sombody please tellme an easy method just to press delete on my keyboard :/
[08:19] <heartsblood> uhh.. lol
[08:20] <Jordan_U> student23, So "and/or" would become "and//or"
[08:20] <heartsblood>  /whois me :)
[08:20] <heartsblood> I'm sure if you whois me you'll get my info
[08:20] <generalsnus> Relase day.. i cant wait:) hello all btw
[08:20] <basti> whois basti
[08:20] <student23> Jordan_U, I don't mean scripts, just an input line in a term-based application...
[08:20] <basti> exit
[08:20] <Flannel> alromaithi: alt-f2, gksu nautilus, use the window that pops up, and close it as SOON as youre done.  Don't do anything else with that window except your compiz removal
[08:20] <bone> heartsblood, already did. I was just stating what I had heard.
[08:20] <basti> quit
[08:20] <heartsblood> ah
[08:20] <Jordan_U> student23, Can you give an example?
[08:20] <teKnofreak> how do i disable compiz in gutsy ?
[08:20] <scguy318> basti: need a nice slash
[08:21] <bone> heartsblood, my 10mb cable isnt bad actually, but fios would rock. and work pays for my internet connection anyway.
[08:21] <student23> Jordan_U, can I querry you please?
[08:21] <jflash> Flannel, do I have to use the word " deb" in ffront of that URL?
[08:21] <Boumboum6> alromaithi: open terminal, type "sudo rm *"    with * being whatever file(s) you want to delete. Beware--no undelete in terminal. Better to just click on "Places", to get the Nautilus file browser, then right-click, and press "move to trash"
[08:21] <heartsblood> no verizon is pushing it like mad in the cities (wash dc here).  the loop i'm on is 77 down 25 up
[08:21] <Jordan_U> teKnofreak, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[08:21] <teKnofreak> Jordan_U, thanks, will check that
[08:21] <Jordan_U> student23, sure
[08:21] <Flannel> jflash: Thats just the URL, drop it in place of the other one, deb and the stuff at the end of the line need to still be there, yes.
[08:21] <bone> heartsblood, stop... i'm drooling on the keyboard.
[08:21] <heartsblood> <3
[08:21] <bone> and I thought my 1100kb/sec was fast
[08:22] <AnAnt> Hello, if I use reportbug will it report to Ubuntu or Debian ?
[08:22] <moDumass> when i select enable Nvidia driver in Restricted Drivers manager I get this... E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[08:22] <heartsblood> then I guess I shouldn't tell you I pay $33/month for it I guess :(
[08:22] <heartsblood> then I guess telling you I pay $33/m for it would be a bad idea
[08:22] <heartsblood> oops my bad
[08:22] <Boumboum6> lol heartsblood
[08:22] <heartsblood> thought i lagged
[08:22] <motin_0> 18-okt-2007 09:22 GMT+1 still no gutsy
[08:22] <Jordan_U> AnAnt, Ubuntu, it will likely be propagated upstream to debian as well though
[08:22] <smmagic> No virtual box for gutsy =.=
[08:23] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[08:23] <smmagic> Wonder if feisty one will work
[08:23] <bone> heartsblood, i'll be on the lookout for that in my area. Work would love to pay less, I am sure.
[08:23] <shtoom> http://pastebin.com/d31eda405 thats the output of dpkg --configure -a can any one help
[08:23] <scguy318> smmagic: may I PM?
[08:23] <heartsblood> Bone: I'm on the highest package, the start around 20 something
[08:23] <alromaithi> Boumboum6, when i right click on the files move to trash is faded cant click it
[08:23] <smmagic> Of course
[08:23] <endlessurf> you know what is more fun than waiting for the gutsy release, is flaming people on craigslist
[08:23] <bbmak> what's time ubuntu is going to make the release announcement?
[08:23] <alromaithi> Boumboum6, what u mean by nautalis file browser ?
[08:24] <astro76> !topic | bbmak
[08:24] <ubotu> bbmak: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:24] <heartsblood> 24 maybe?
[08:24] <bone> heartsblood, we need every bit of bandwidth for our nortel vpn client to get into work. very ineffecient.
[08:24] <Boumboum6> alromaithi: you see that little bar on the top of the screen in Ubuntu?
[08:24] <bone> heartsblood, would they by chance allow dual fios to be ordered.
[08:25]  * bone dreams of bonded fios lines
[08:25] <Boumboum6> there's text up there....one says "Places"
[08:25] <shtoom> http://pastebin.com/d31eda405 thats the output of dpkg --configure -a can any one help
[08:25] <alromaithi> Boumboum6, goahead
[08:26] <heartsblood> bone: I'm not sure it's for all areas but I could get up to 5 lines here if I wanted
[08:26] <bone> heartsblood, see... thats just plan nuts. But I am sure they wouldnt do that same pricing for businesses (would almost put PTP T1's out of business).
[08:27] <Jordan_U> smmagic, Can you pastebin your sources.list?
[08:27] <bone> Sorry, e1's or whatever they renamed them to actually.
[08:27] <alromaithi> it says unable to move to trash access denied
[08:27] <alromaithi> anyways to delete these unneccesary folders which i have uninstalled them lately
[08:27] <alromaithi> its doing a crowd
[08:27] <murlidhar> Ok i use Listen Media Player and i want my Pidgin to show my contacts what am i listening.  How do i do that???
[08:27] <heartsblood> bone: well as far T1/T3 goes verizon has dropped 'new' support for copper land lines.  they're moving eveybody to fibernetworks even the buisnesses
[08:28] <yellow_chicken> is there a count down to 7.10? (in hours unit)
[08:28] <alromaithi> murlidhar, who wants that lo
[08:28] <bone> heartsblood, nice. You dont by chance work for them, do you?
[08:28] <unimatrix9> alromaithi , try remove as root
[08:28] <murlidhar> alromaithi: i want that
[08:28] <alromaithi> unimatrix9, how
[08:28] <shtoom> http://pastebin.com/d31eda405 thats the output of dpkg --configure -a can any one help?
[08:28] <heartsblood> bone: negative, but I have explored high bandwidth options from them for awhile
[08:28] <Jordan_U> smmagic, Can you pastebin your sources.list?
[08:28] <alromaithi> murlidhar, get kopete
[08:29] <unimatrix9> alromaithi , start terminal on your gnome desktop, then type sudo nautilus , enter root password
[08:29] <alromaithi> and i think pidgins got plugins for that kind of thing murlidhar
[08:29] <bone> heartsblood, how's the linux connect with it. Straight tcp/ip?
[08:29] <unimatrix9> navigate to folder / file and delete
[08:29] <Flannel> unimatrix9, alromaithi, gksu nautilus, not sudo nautilus
[08:29] <unimatrix9> well okey
[08:29] <astro76> alromaithi, unimatrix9, and user password, no root password
[08:29] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:29] <murlidhar> alromaithi: so where can  find those plugins and how do  install them?
[08:29] <alromaithi> YOU SAVED ME
[08:29] <heartsblood> bone: yeap, staic IP's $5/m/per IP
[08:30] <unimatrix9> hmm sudo works just fine , sir
[08:30] <bone> heartsblood, any odd restrictions on listening ports/daemons on user end of things?
[08:30] <unimatrix9> i just treid..
[08:30] <Flannel> unimatrix9: no it doesnt.  Don't use sudo for graphical apps, it sometimes causes permission errors and stuff.
[08:30] <astro76> !gksu | unimatrix9
[08:30] <ubotu> unimatrix9: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using « sudo <GUI-application> » - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[08:30] <heartsblood> bone: they do block port 80 for some odd reason on residential lines, but that was very easy to get around.
[08:31] <bone> heartsblood, i'm sold. Sign me up.
[08:31] <unimatrix9> yes master ....;)
[08:31] <Galactic> !sign
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sign - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <generalsnus> wtb 7.10 allready... anyone knows how long until release?
[08:32] <motin_0> 18-okt-2007 09:32 GMT+1 still no gutsy
[08:32] <Jordan_U> smmagic, Do you mind submitting a bug report?
[08:32] <jflash> "Couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched twisted-matrix"
[08:32] <jflash> :-(
[08:32] <astro76> !topic | motin_0 generalsnus
[08:32] <heartsblood> bone: Call them up :>
[08:32] <ubotu> motin_0 generalsnus: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:32]  * sauvin tends to sudo su - and THEN run gtk apps
[08:32] <brucealdridge> i have a lot of random crashes of many programs (incl. firefox, tbird, synaptic) i have no idea what the problem could be (newbie)
[08:32] <Galactic> Releasing it is tricky. But possible. It will take exactly seven and a half million years.
[08:32] <bone> We're sorry Verizon doesn't offer FiOS service in your area. However, please take a look at the Verizon services listed below that may be offered where you live.
[08:32] <Galactic> !42
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <heartsblood> :(
[08:33] <Jordan_U> sauvin is going to be in for a surprise when after running an app that isn't carefull he will no longer be able to log in :)
[08:33] <bone> ya.. i was on it like stink on liver
[08:33] <smy1220> !fedora Core 7
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fedora core 7 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <sauvin> It hasn't happened yet, but the only app I run really from root is synaptic.
[08:33] <unimatrix9> hello dennis
[08:34] <RkyRaccoon55>  cant believe im asking this but does anyone know what time 7.10 will be available?
[08:34] <nentis> oi.
[08:34] <heartsblood> Bone: I can't say for sure if this would help but it might be in your best interest to call them.  Fios lines can be run from stupid long distances and as long as your local loop is fiber you can get it if you bitch a them enough
[08:34] <nentis> RkyRaccoon55, join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:34] <Jordan_U> RkyRaccoon55, There is a reason you can't believe that you are asking that, it's because you shouldn't be
[08:34] <alromaithi> thanks Flannel
[08:34]  * nentis loves his FIOS.
[08:34] <allorder> Hi everyone it say on ubuntu site 00 day to download 7.10, but it doesnt like ready, its for when ?
[08:34] <heartsblood> bone: the web site isn't always very accurate because they use the dsl range model for testing.
[08:34] <bone> heartsblood, I'l will call tomorrow.
[08:34] <nentis> 14.5mbit down.
[08:35] <Jordan_U> RkyRaccoon55, /topic
[08:35] <phpcurious> hi, how do you obtain info about hardware components installed in linux machine using the terminal?
[08:35] <nentis> phpcurious, lspci
[08:35] <bone> nentis, i have 10mb charter cable, but heartsblood has a direct line straight into al gore's internet 2.0.
[08:35] <bone> hehe
[08:35] <Jordan_U> phpcurious, lspci, lshal, lshw
[08:35] <unimatrix9> Seveas ; groetjes van leslie ( t-dose event )
[08:35] <nentis> :)
[08:35] <heartsblood> o.o...
[08:35] <Seveas> unimatrix9, :)
[08:35] <Seveas> groeten terug!
[08:35] <heartsblood> I've heard many things, but thats new ;)
[08:36] <moDumass> hey all, so i upgraded to gutsy and its gone relatively smoothly, all except that restricted drivers wont let me install the nvidia proprietry drivers
[08:36] <bone> lsb_release -a
[08:36] <bone> opps. sorry
[08:36] <unimatrix9> moDumass, do an manual install?
[08:36] <bone> I just like looking at the output
[08:36] <CroX> So, anyone know when Gutsy is released today?
[08:36] <Javid> nope
[08:36] <willwill> !topic | CroX
[08:36] <ubotu> CroX: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:36] <Javid> and here comes the nerd rage
[08:36] <willwill> Gutsy will be released some time in the next 24 hours
[08:36] <Javid> how dare he ask a simple question!
[08:37] <Jordan_U> Javid, It's in the topic for a reason
[08:37] <unimatrix9> javid : did you have an question?
[08:37] <moDumass> unimatrix9..hmm. can give it a go i suppose, this is usually where i break it and need my gf`s laptop to connect
[08:37] <unimatrix9> moDumass, i see..
[08:37] <jflash> ok guys, no twisted for me in the old repos. will apache stop working if i upgrate do dapper?
[08:38] <Javid> Yeah. How do I save my gaim configs so I can reinstall it after upgrading without losing all my info?
[08:38] <jflash> and how big of a download would that be?
[08:38] <jflash> is it like MS Vista? 10 gigabytes or something?
[08:38] <alromaithi> lo
[08:38] <brucealdridge> is this a channel for support? whats the support process? ask a question and hope it gets answered?
[08:38] <Javid> brucealdridge, yes and yes
[08:38] <phpcurious> Jordan_U: how about the HD info? and Memory?
[08:38] <scguy318> brucealdrige: that sums it u
[08:38] <alromaithi> 700mb jflash
[08:38] <Jordan_U> jflash, Not likely, and ~ 700 meg, it depends on how many applications you have installed
[08:38] <astro76> Javid, save ~/.gaim/
[08:38] <scguy318> *up
[08:38] <musikgoat> !patience
[08:38] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:38] <moDumass> unimatrix9 its cool, im workin on it
[08:38] <Javid> !lol
[08:38] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:38] <Oli``> brucealdridge: you can ask in the forums too.
[08:39] <unimatrix9> javid : there is an hidden file in your home dir .gaim , maybe the settings are stored there
[08:39] <Javid> thanks
[08:39] <jflash> ok, i'm sold
[08:39] <Jordan_U> phpcurious, Most things like that will be in /proc ( /proc/cpuinfo, /proc/meminfo etc )
[08:39] <jflash> how do i do it?
[08:39] <brucealdridge> maybe people didn't like my question... i shall ask again, but nicely ...
[08:39] <alromaithi> !rofl
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rofl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <scguy318> brucealdrige: just !ask
[08:39] <scguy318> brucealdrige: this is a busy channel, questions are missed
[08:40] <alromaithi> !ask
[08:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:40] <Javid> :o roseburg person
[08:40] <Necrosan_> I'm installing the gutsy RC, will I be able to update to final thru software update?
[08:40] <Javid> Necrosan_, yes
[08:40] <unimatrix9> yes
[08:40] <brucealdridge> scguy: !ask question or !question
[08:40] <rredd4> Javid  me too
[08:40] <phpcurious> I didn't know ubotu is a bot
[08:40] <murlidhar> :)
[08:40] <phpcurious> i thought ubotu was a real person
[08:40] <rredd4> lol
[08:40] <Javid> I'm not, but I jump on local IPs when I see them. ^^
[08:40] <murlidhar> phpcurious: :)
[08:40] <kirjava> ffs
[08:40] <unimatrix9> ubotu is an woman...:)
[08:40] <alromaithi> !!!
[08:40] <robotphood> does evogear.com crash anyone else's firefox?
[08:40] <larsrohdin> phpcurious: he just answers very quickly
[08:40] <bone> phpcurious, did you have a meaningful conversation with ubotu and not realize it?
[08:41] <kirjava> how can /dev/hdb show up as mounted if it dosn't exist?
[08:41] <darkzero> so is overyone ready to upgrade to gutsy?
[08:41] <scguy318> brucealdrige: just ask
[08:41] <brucealdridge> !ask i have a lot of random crashes of many programs (incl. firefox, tbird, synaptic) i have no idea what the problem could be (newbie)
[08:41] <murlidhar> unimatrix9: don't make fun of anybody
[08:41] <Necrosan_> Javid: what's the process?
[08:41] <astro76> brucealdridge, no, that's to tell ubotu to tell you to just ask your question
[08:41] <Necrosan_> or should it be "good to go" just running it?
[08:41] <dfeeser_> darkdevil: already done...waiting to grab the final updates :)
[08:41] <NielsE> robotphood: yes :P
[08:41] <rredd4> the ubuntu web site says 0 days for 7.10
[08:41] <Javid> Necrosan_, I think the link's in the topic
[08:41] <phpcurious> no, just read his logs and he is quite frank in everything he says
[08:41] <NielsE> no, its loads again, just had to wait
[08:41] <student23> Jordan_U, Sorry disturbing, can you give me a hand please?
[08:41] <robotphood> does it freeze again?
[08:41] <scguy318> brucealdrige: crash how?
[08:41] <allorder> robotphood: no
[08:41] <unimatrix9> evogear is very heavy
[08:41] <unimatrix9> but loads
[08:41] <robotphood> flash prob?
[08:42] <darkzero> you mean darkzero
[08:42] <darkzero> lol
[08:42] <darkzero> darkdevil??
[08:42] <robotphood> mine locks completely
[08:42] <dfeeser_> sorry.. i did a dark:
[08:42] <unimatrix9> ubotu i am sorry..
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i am sorry.. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Necrosan_> Javid: not in topic
[08:42] <Javid> darn.
[08:42] <Javid> !upgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - Please join #ubuntu+1 for questions about upgrading to Gutsy, and use #ubuntu for "normal" support only
[08:42] <brucealdridge> scguy: it just dies ... quits ... if i run from terminal it reports a seg fault
[08:43] <Javid> use that link Necrosan_
[08:43] <darkzero> Sa, tell me if anyone got miro working on gutsy
[08:43] <Jordan_U> student23, What's your question?
[08:43] <Necrosan_> ah
[08:43] <scguy318> brucealdrige: install anything recently? is this Gutsy?
[08:43] <unimatrix9> off to work , bye
[08:43] <Lunz> how do i update all new codec for sound and video?
[08:44] <Gin> Lunz, you don't need to
[08:44] <darkzero> <  got the final releases
[08:44] <darkzero> woohoo
[08:44] <brucealdridge> scguy: i install fiesty earlier in the week, gave up on xp ... was crashy .. so i tried updating to gutsy rc
[08:44] <Lunz> gin,why?
[08:45] <fast> WHERE IS MY 7.10 UBUNTU????
[08:45] <scguy318> brucealdrige: something wrong with, i dunno, your RAM?
[08:45] <Boumboum4> lol fast
[08:45] <scguy318> !topic | fast
[08:45] <ubotu> fast: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:45] <Lunz> gin,Transcoding the video stream with ffmpeg failed. Exiting.
[08:45] <murlidhar> brucealdridge: sorry to hear that but Gutsy is a stable OS
[08:45] <Seveas> fast, in the fridge...
[08:45] <Javid> !lol > Boumboum4
[08:45] <murlidhar> !lol
[08:45] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:45] <fast> CMON, i wait from 4 days to get it
[08:45] <Lunz> how do i get ffmpeg?
[08:45] <Gin> Lunz, I don't think you need codec upgrade to fix that problem,
[08:46] <brucealdridge> scguy: got new ram this time last week ... i memtest'd it for about 4hours no errors
[08:46]  * cyphase loves how #ubuntu always gets full on release day
[08:46] <Gin> Lunz, try searching the forum
[08:46] <Lunz> gin,how to fix it then?
[08:46] <moDumass> has anyone else had issues with "restricted drivers" in gutsy?
[08:46] <cyphase> not that there's a definition of "full"
[08:46] <fast> whats going on, really, i dont understand whats the problem, why there is no release yet?
[08:46] <cafuego> /topic
[08:47] <teKnofreak> shtoom,
[08:47] <bone> fast, its not Nov 18th yet.
[08:47] <bone> ;)
[08:47] <scguy318> brucealdrige: mm, reinstallation? segfault = strange
[08:47] <fast> for me it is, GMT time
[08:47] <cafuego> fast: They're monitoring this channel and push back the release by one hour each time someone asks.
[08:47] <bone> Fast, your a month off.
[08:47] <Boumboum4> lol cafuego
[08:47] <jflash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion  << page doesnt exist :P
[08:47] <jflash> now what?
[08:47] <cafuego> Looking at 2050
[08:48] <brucealdridge> scguy: is there a nice way of install leaving settings?? i spose just backup home folder
[08:48] <alromaithi> the release is available but they are updating it to the mirror sites so people could download so if u have a clue and know the root dir of the htm site then you might find it :p
[08:48] <scguy318> brucealdrige: yep
[08:48] <scguy318> brucealdrige: next time around put /home on its own partition
[08:48] <scguy318> brucealdrige: so you dont have to backup at all
[08:48] <jimmyww> how long do we think tell 7.10 comes out
[08:49] <murlidhar> i use pidgin and where and how can install the now playing plugin???????
[08:49] <fast> alromaithi, thats "can" be a good explain.. lets hope it true, and i am not forced to put the beta today
[08:49] <scguy318> murlidhar: check the repos?
[08:49] <internecion> I have a pretty big problem when I try to update.
[08:49] <jimmyww> ?
[08:49] <Rabbitbunny> what's the correct spelling of 'facetious'?
[08:49] <internecion> During my updates, I'll get freezes and be forced to restart.
[08:49] <Rabbitbunny> google isn't hinting.
[08:49] <internecion> I am running a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.04
[08:49] <internecion> Any ideas as to what might be wrong?
[08:49] <Wisteso> facetious
[08:49] <murlidhar> scguy318: would plugins be in the repos???
[08:49] <Rabbitbunny> thank you
[08:49] <cafuego> Facetious \Fa*ce"tious\, a. [Cf. F. fac['e]tieux.
[08:50] <alromaithi> fast, get the beta , you think ubuntu users is only the ones in this irc?
[08:50] <scguy318> murlidhar: probably yes
[08:50] <rebelThor> what's wrong if when i press ctrl + alt + f1 brings me to a black screen but no terminal?
[08:50] <L0GAN> today's the day :D
[08:50] <scguy318> internection: would help if you told us what error
[08:50] <murlidhar> scguy318: searching then
[08:50] <internecion> I don't get any sort of error; everything just completely freezes.
[08:50] <markymark> join #ubuntu + 1
[08:50] <Rabbitbunny> heh, don't drink and type, I mis-spellied it into google.
[08:51] <jimmyww> so how long do we think till 7.10 comes
[08:51] <jeevan_ullas> hey all what happened to gutsy ? is it released or not
[08:51] <jeevan_ullas> hey all what happened to gutsy ? is it released or not
[08:51] <cafuego> There we go, another 3 hours to wait...
[08:51] <jeevan_ullas> what ?
[08:51] <phpcurious> ubotu gutsy
[08:51] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:51] <Seveas> jimmyww, #ubuntu-release-party
[08:51] <cafuego> jeevan_ullas: read the topic
[08:51] <jimmyww> thxs
[08:51] <jeevan_ullas> cafuego: stfu
[08:51] <cafuego> Ok, bye.
[08:52] <jflash> guys, the tuturial says " make sure, you have a backup of important data."  doest tthat include my whole website?
[08:52] <moDumass> !nvidia
[08:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:52] <Boumboum4> is there a way to preserve installed apps the same way one preserves personal files/settings by putting /home on a separate partition? I get tired of re-installing apps... :)
[08:52] <t94xr> so is it out yet??
[08:52] <scguy318> !ohmy | jeevan_ullas
[08:52] <ubotu> jeevan_ullas: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:52] <bone> is there a bugzilla for ubuntu anywhere?
[08:52] <cafuego> Someone is never getting helped by me.
[08:52] <rebelThor> sorry, connection problems,  what's wrong if when i press ctrl + alt + f1 brings me to a black screen but no terminal?
[08:52] <scguy318> !bugs | bone
[08:52] <ubotu> bone: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:52] <cafuego> bone: No, but there is launchpad.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <scguy318> bone: not really Bugzilla, but Launchpad
[08:52] <cafuego> eh
[08:52] <cafuego> ^^ that thing :-)
[08:53] <murlidhar> scguy318: nope it isn't there in the repos
[08:53] <fast> there will be any torrent distribution for iso also? any idea?
[08:53] <cafuego> fast: yes
[08:53] <thoreauputic> fast: of course
[08:53] <bone> thanks guys
[08:53] <scguy318> murlidhar: mm, I suppose you will have to compile from source
[08:53] <scguy318> murlidhar: i dunno too much :(
[08:53] <Keypad> Harro
[08:53] <fast> omg.. i am so deperate.. i CANT WAIT, call devs to update the damn page, even with less mirrors
[08:54] <Keypad> ?
[08:54] <Keypad> New ubuntu is out
[08:54] <Keypad> right ?
[08:54] <bozni> I'm attempting to mount my ntfs raid device and it is consistently telling me that the device file in /dev/mapper doesn't exist....
[08:54] <huXfluX> wrong
[08:54] <Myrtti> no, not yet
[08:54] <scguy318> Keypad: /topic
[08:54] <internecion> Where can I look to discover what the problem was from a system freeze that recently occured?
[08:54] <bozni> I know it does because I'm looking at the file, anyone able to help?
[08:54] <Keypad> thanks
[08:54]  * cafuego winces at bozni
[08:55]  * fast is going crazy
[08:55] <generalsnus> a question:  as ive understood, win xp 64bit lacks a lot of drivers and app support.. is it the same issue with ubuntu 64bit?  is there any problems that might arise when choosing 64bit over 32?
[08:55] <scguy318> generalsnus: some apps might be pain, like Flash plugin
[08:55] <fast> i will go for x64 version
[08:55] <scguy318> generalsnus: kernel modules shouldn't be a problem, its just a matter of recompilation
[08:55] <bozni> Anyone knowledgeable on ntfs raid devices?
[08:55] <moDumass> hey all does anyone know what this error means or how to fix it? http://www.pastebin.org/5153 I googled it but got no love
[08:55] <scguy318> generalsnus: but its better to stick with 32-bit
[08:56] <cafuego> generalsnus: You may have some issues getting java and video working in your web browser.
[08:56] <fast> i dont care about flash, really..
[08:56] <scguy318> moDumass: the stuff before it would help a lot
[08:56] <antler> um, 32bit firefox on a 64 bit os
[08:56] <poolie_> moDumass, it means there was an error installing that package
[08:56] <poolie_> scroll up to see what happened
[08:56] <bozni> I point the mounter to the proper location and it tells me the device doesn't exist.  Can anyone help, I'm pulling my hair out here!
[08:56] <moDumass> scguy318 there is no 'before' thats is
[08:56] <cafuego> antler: Yeah, dchroot, extra maintenance work, manual updates. Hassle, annoying.
[08:57] <phoenix_> ick DJ-Triple-V
[08:57] <willwill> @noq
[08:57] <willwill> @now
[08:57] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 18 2007, 07:57:18 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day
[08:57] <antler> cafuego: gee, and in suse it's just a click. ;-D
[08:57] <moDumass> poolie_ any idea how to fix? im tryng to install nvidia drivers in either synaptic or with the restricted drivers manager
[08:57] <cafuego> Yeah, as if.
[08:57] <poolie_> personally i would go to a shell and try
[08:57] <cafuego> Suse locked up twice during install yesterday.
[08:57] <scguy318> moDumass: was there no messages before that?
[08:57] <bone> brb\
[08:57] <poolie_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:58] <poolie_> that may at least give more messages
[08:58] <moDumass> scguy nope thats all it says
[08:58] <antler> cafuego: 10.3? i'm hangin on to 10.2
[08:58] <moDumass> will try the cmdline though,
[08:58] <cafuego> antler: yeh, 10.3 (32bit)
[08:58] <Sp0tUb> Hi! Can someone tell me how i stop my screen turning down the light in Ubuntu?
[08:58] <antler> Sp0tUb: huh?
[08:59] <Kerpal> anyone know why ubuntu might be freezing whenever i attempt to use a wlan connection to connect to, well anything
[08:59] <generalsnus> So.. a lot of 32 bits ubuntu/linux apps.. might couse problems then..so generally best to stick with 32bit... but what are the big pro's and cons with the 64bit edition then?
[08:59] <moDumass> scguy and poolie this is the output from cmdline : http://www.pastebin.org/5154
[08:59] <Boumboum4> kerpal: that's an odd problem. if the wlan has problems it shouldn't freeze Ubuntu. My guess is a file got corrupted somewhere.
[09:00] <Kerpal> well at first i had a problem getting an IP after connecting to my router
[09:00] <macke_> join #ubuntu-releaseparty
[09:00] <murlidhar> now playing plugin for pidgin .   Can anyone help me ?
[09:00] <moDumass> sorry my bad
[09:00] <Kerpal> i could connect to the AP fine but then i couldn't get the IP, i looked it up and found out i had to use root to get an IP, but now that i connect with an IP i freeze whenever trying to do anything on wlan0
[09:01] <jeevan_ullas> Amaranth: you are a big asshole man.
[09:01] <Kerpal> like if i load firefox and it attempts to connect to the websites i had via restore, it freezes, i load automatix to install a driver via internet, once it tries to connect it freezes
[09:01] <scguy318> !ohmy | jeevan_ullas
[09:01] <ubotu> jeevan_ullas: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:01] <poolie> moDumass, you need to close synaptic or something
[09:01] <scguy318> moDumass: you have any package managers open? probably should close those
[09:01] <karnage42> does anyone know the exact time of release for gutsy gibbon?
[09:01] <moDumass> scguy and poolie yeh this is with other managers closed : http://www.pastebin.org/5155
[09:02] <Crush`> is there a command to make an iso of a DVD/CD?
[09:02] <scguy318> Crush`: dd :P
[09:02] <eternalswd> !topic | karnage42
[09:02] <ubotu> karnage42: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:02] <eyeRmonkey> karnage42: of course we do. ;)
[09:02] <scguy318> Crush`: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=isofile.iso bs=4096
[09:02] <Crush`> oh thank you
[09:02] <L0GAN> when o when will the ubuntu latest version hit the users :D
[09:02] <GionnyBoss> Kerpal: I don't know about your wireless problem, but get rid of Automatix. It is not official and it can likely lead your computer to a mess.
[09:02] <rebelThor_> where can i find the file where i can set how many virtual terminals i have?
[09:03] <Kerpal> well i didn't do anything with automatix prior to the problem, so i know it didn't cause it
[09:03] <Kerpal> oh sweet new version :D
[09:03] <Sp0tUb> Cane someone tell me how i stop my screen from flickering in Ubuntu?
[09:03] <eyeRmonkey> Question: I have an Intel Core Duo 2. Should I use the AMD64 version because I have a 64bit processor, or should I use the Intel x86 version since it is an intel processor?
[09:03] <generalsnus> So.. a lot of 32 bits ubuntu/linux apps.. might couse problems then..so generally best to stick with 32bit... but what are the big pro's and cons with the 64bit edition then?
[09:04] <moDumass> thanks for any help thus far though
[09:05] <Seveas> rebelThor_, /etc/inittab
[09:05] <rebelThor_> Seveas: thanks
[09:05] <rebelThor_> Seveas: what if i don't have an /etc/inittab? :))
[09:06] <Seveas> rebelThor_, meh, I forgot about upstart
[09:06] <Seveas> rebelThor_, look in /etc/event.d/
[09:07] <accumulator> hello all
[09:07] <scguy318> hello
[09:07] <Crush`> scguy318: i tried that command to make an iso of a DVD i alreadyhad in the drive, and it only created a 15.4MB iso
[09:07] <rebelThor_> Seveas: things look good in /etc/event.d, however my virtual terminals don't start
[09:07] <moDumass> scguy318 was that helpful at all?
[09:08] <Seveas> rebelThor_, are you using a vga= parameter on the kernel command line?
[09:08] <rebelThor_> Seveas: yes, i am
[09:08] <scguy318> moDumass: your error is familiar, moment
[09:08] <Seveas> rebelThor_, don't
[09:08] <rebelThor_> Seveas: i see :))
[09:08] <Seveas> rebelThor_, and see if you get terminals back :)
[09:08] <murlidhar> i am not able to install musictracker plugin for pidgin
[09:09] <poolie> moDumass, it looks like nvidia-glx won't coexist with nvidia-glx-new
[09:09] <poolie> do you need both of them?
[09:09] <rebelThor_> Seveas: how will i be able then to change to the proper resolution required by the usplash?
[09:09] <drayen> is kubuntu 7.10 officially released ?
[09:09] <Seveas> rebelThor_, usplash doesn't need a vga= parameter
[09:09] <Seveas> drayen, no
[09:10] <drayen> Seveas: any ideas on when?
[09:10] <rebelThor_> Seveas: then i must be using some other splash program, because it displays the graphic in a different resolution than it should
[09:10] <Seveas> drayen, every time you ask, the release is delayed by 10 minutes ;)
[09:10] <cafuego> drayen: Another hour later coz you asked
[09:11] <Seveas> rebelThor_, look in /etc/usplash.conf and after changing that file, regenerate your initramfs
[09:11] <drayen> Seveas: :P ok, but were talking today / tomorrow, not next week
[09:11] <rebelThor_> Seveas: thanks a lot
[09:11] <Seveas> drayen, today or tomorrow, depending on your timezone
[09:12] <drayen> Seveas: lovely, was all i wanted to know ;)
[09:12] <chal> doing a trace route to a doman says mail.xyz.com for example  should it not be just xyz.com?
[09:12] <murlidhar> Seveas: i can't enable my usplash. what is the problem. just blank screen and takes ages to boot . so i had to again put the text feature back
[09:13] <murlidhar> Seveas: usplash is installed
[09:13] <accumulator> murlidhar: same problem here
[09:13] <murlidhar> :(
[09:14] <Azzkikr> Hmm I thought Gutsy was out today for download
[09:15] <accumulator> murlidhar: it seems to be a problem with the kernel in combintaion with the fb modules
[09:15] <cafuego> Every time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.
[09:15] <murlidhar> accumulator: u mean bug?
[09:15] <accumulator> yep
[09:16] <gosha> When I press a tab like "Summary" in 'hardinfo' i get logged out, and it looks like X dies. What could the problem be?
[09:16] <accumulator> murlidhar: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[09:16] <bjron> anyone found a solution to the upgrade manager hanging on 'modifying the software channels' after you cofirm the 'support has ended' dialogue?
[09:16] <Gin> it would ne nice if there is a utility that can remember the size of applications windows. So next time I open it, it will open with the same size as it was last opened.
[09:16] <accumulator> murlidhar: but the solutions there dont work with kernel -14
[09:17] <djm62> Gin: I think devilspie might do that
[09:18] <Sbucat> where can i donwload 7.10 stable ?
[09:18] <endlessurf> so my question is, what is the difference if i up date now to gutsy rather than wait untily i can get it on my update manager
[09:19] <endlessurf> so my question is, what is the difference if i up date now to gutsy rather than wait untily i can get it on my update manager
[09:19] <accumulator> endlessurf: some last bugs :)
[09:19] <Seveas> will we make the 1500 when the US wakes up?
[09:20] <murlidhar> Sbucat: wait for some time and don't ask how much . Cuz everytime u ask it gets delayed
[09:20] <endlessurf> but if i update later do i get a new bug swater?
[09:20] <endlessurf> murlidhar when does gutsy come out?
[09:20] <Myrtti> !topic | endlessurf
[09:21] <ubotu> endlessurf: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:21] <murlidhar> endlessurf: don't ask i dunno
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> endlessurf: less rush later?
[09:21] <endlessurf> oh i was just asking cause you said it would delay
[09:21] <gosha> Which signal is the 11'th one?
[09:21] <murlidhar> endlessurf: have patience
[09:21] <endlessurf> i leave for mexico in a few
[09:21] <cafuego> SIGSEGV
[09:21] <gosha> cafuego: What does it mean?
[09:21] <endlessurf> you know baja surf beer babes
[09:22] <cafuego> gosha: accessing invalid memory
[09:22] <murlidhar> yeah beer
[09:22] <murlidhar> :)
[09:22] <endra> hello
[09:22] <gosha> ... That's what it says X does when it dies from the hardinfo app
[09:22] <cafuego> gosha: yeah, that's not generally good.
[09:22] <Wikzo> Can you get 7.10 via the update manager like all other updates on Ubuntu 7.04?
[09:22] <endlessurf> when i was seventeen i bought some very good beer.......
[09:22] <scguy318> Wikzo: yes
[09:22] <endlessurf> can you name that murlidhar
[09:22] <cafuego> Wikzo: yes
[09:22] <Flannel> Wikzo: yes, once its out it'll prompt you to upgrade
[09:22] <Kaiserlich> hi all. how can i start emacs from within a terminal, without having to remove the "emacs21" package (which has support)?
[09:22] <Wikzo> Ok, thanks all
[09:23] <gosha> cafuego: I figured so ... I wonder what I can do =/
[09:23] <murlidhar> endlessurf: no guesses
[09:23] <cafuego> Kaiserlich: type 'emacs' in a terminal
[09:23] <endlessurf> homer simpson
[09:23] <murlidhar> k
[09:23] <endra> ive miraculously managed to install a server version of ubuntu with cd 7.04 alternate on this old internet-free laptop of mine. How do I go about installing xfce, or kde, or gnome without having the internet and only said cd?
[09:23] <margori> is anyone updating right now?
[09:23] <Kaiserlich> cafuego: : that brings up the gui version of emacs
[09:24] <murlidhar> i like king fisher and this is not the channel to talk about endlessurf
[09:24] <cafuego> Kaiserlich: Oh, i see. Does it list anything in 'emacs --help' ?
[09:24] <Flannel> endra: Which alternate CD is it?
[09:24] <Kaiserlich> cafuego: ah now i see. there is a flag called "-nw"
[09:24] <endra> Flannel: um, ubuntu 7.04?
[09:24] <Kaiserlich> cafuego: thanks :)
[09:24] <milosevica> game boy
[09:24] <endlessurf> murlidhar not the channel to talk about.......
[09:24] <teKnofreak> Kaiserlich, emacs -nw
[09:25] <milosevica> halo jel ima nekog
[09:25] <Kaiserlich> teKnofreak: yes i saw it now. thanks :)
[09:25] <murlidhar> endlessurf: beers :)
[09:25] <Flannel> endra: alright, since you installed with the alt CD, it ought to already be in your repository list, if its not you can `sudo apt-cdrom add` to add it, then put the CD in, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop
[09:25] <Flannel> endra: ubuntu-desktop, that is.
[09:25] <teKnofreak> Kaiserlich, if you use if often create an alias in .bashrc "alias e="emacs -nw"
[09:25] <milosevica> alo jel zna neko Srpski
[09:25] <endlessurf> murlidhar what is your favorite type of beer?
[09:25] <moDumass> sorry had to step out, Poolie, no i do not, but i didnt know i had both installed
[09:26] <Kaiserlich> teKnofreak: sounds pretty smooth. thanks for the tip.
[09:26] <murlidhar> endlessurf: my lips are closed
[09:26] <endlessurf> ??????
[09:26] <endra> Flannel: will ubuntu-desktop work on 530mhz 128mb ram?
[09:26] <AbyssGer> My PLESK saves the Webalizer-stats in this PLESK-Login safe directory: /srv/www/vhosts/(domain)/statistics/webstat now i want to put it somewhere where all customers can read the stats without loggin into plesk. someone any idea?
[09:26] <gunashekar> endra: it wont
[09:26] <murlidhar> i gotta installed a plugin in pidgin how to do that????
[09:26] <moDumass> poolie, i dont currently have either installed..
[09:26] <scguy318> endra: not all that well, Xubuntu?
[09:26] <smmagic> YOu could try xbuntu
[09:27] <frostburn> murlidhar, which one
[09:27] <endra> i have the xubuntu alternate cd as well!
[09:27] <Flannel> endra: Probably not nicely, no.  You'll need to download the xubuntu liveCD, or, better yet, use aptonCD to make a repository CD with whatever you want on it.
[09:27] <murlidhar> frostburn: musictracker
[09:27] <endra> what would the title be? xubuntu-desktop?
[09:27] <Flannel> endra: er, my previous statement should be xubuntu alternate CD, yeah, xubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <Flannel> endra: you'll need to use apt-cdrom to add that (since theyre different CDs, theyre named differently in the sources.list)
[09:28] <frostburn> murlidhar, i think there's a package called pidgin-plugins... however that's on gutsy, which would be released today
[09:28] <murlidhar> frostburn: i am using gutsy
[09:28] <murlidhar> frostburn: it doesn't have this plugin
[09:29] <frostburn> murlidhar, download the source and compile
[09:29] <gosha> wtf
[09:29] <gosha> now everything likes to die
[09:29] <murlidhar> frostburn: tried . says can't find pidgin
[09:30] <frostburn> murlidhar, did you do apt-get build-dep pidgin ?
[09:30] <WaltzingAlong> !info pidgin
[09:30] <endlessurf> owh it is 1:30 what is going on
[09:30] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:30] <frostburn> WaltzingAlong, he's using gutsy
[09:31] <teKnofreak> WaltzingAlong, ubotu is still in feisty ;)
[09:31] <VoX> endlessurf: what is going on with what
[09:31] <murlidhar> frostburn: no
[09:31] <moDumass> poolie, i just checked synaptic, i dont currently have either installed, as someone with skills what would you recommend?
[09:31] <Flannel> !info pidgin gutsy
[09:31] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[09:31] <murlidhar> frostburn: do i do that?
[09:31] <WaltzingAlong> frostburn: i have gutsy and pidgin
[09:31] <kane77> is gutsy already released?
[09:31] <VoX> kane77: look at topic
[09:31] <cafuego> Every time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.
[09:32] <WaltzingAlong> no !!!!!!!
[09:32] <wlx> do think so.
[09:32] <murlidhar> kane77: nope i am using RC which is updated so i am using a stable gutsy
[09:32] <TalkingZombie> lol
[09:32] <TalkingZombie> tpp nad
[09:32] <TalkingZombie> too bad
[09:32] <wlx> as the repository change nothing these two days.
[09:32] <darkzero> anyone here have issued with Miro on gutsy?
[09:32] <endlessurf> VoX nm just ftping media to my card to take to mexico, just try'n to stir it up
[09:32] <kane77> murlidhar, me too.. I'm just asking because I want to throw a party :D
[09:33] <murlidhar> :)
[09:33] <kane77> murlidhar, is the GMT used for timing the release? if so it's already released :)
[09:34] <Ademan> kane77: well it's not lol
[09:35] <TalkingZombie> 11.59PM of 18th Oct 2007 is still 18th Oct 2007 :p
[09:35] <frostburn> murlidhar, sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin && sudo apt-get install libpcre3-dev pidgin-dev            then run the ./configure in the music tracker directory
[09:35] <WaltzingAlong> !topic | kane
[09:35] <ubotu> kane: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:35] <kippi> is the new version of ubuntu out?
[09:36] <xipietotec> where is the error log you would get when you fail to suspend correctly?
[09:36] <murlidhar> frostburn: thanks will try that now
[09:36] <Sp0tUb> Is it possible to get my webcam to work in Ubuntu?
[09:36] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tUb: yes
[09:36] <xipietotec> !suspend
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <WaltzingAlong> kippi: by the end of the 18th in the last corner of the world
[09:36] <jimmyww> realese party room where is it
[09:36] <kane77> WaltzingAlong, yes but there is only "some time"...
[09:36] <msjones> hi
[09:36] <kippi> so not this morning?
[09:37] <Andri[DK]> i want my iso :P
[09:37] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong can you please tell me how? :-)
[09:37] <msjones> i bet this message has been answered a thousand times already, but where is 7.10??
[09:37] <scguy318> msjones: /topic
[09:37] <WaltzingAlong> kane77: then join the release party channel though the response in the same: it is set to come out on the 18th, has not been released yet, do not know exactly when that is, and so on
[09:37] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tUb: how do you want to use it?
[09:37] <WaltzingAlong> !webcam
[09:37] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:37] <daurnimator> uh
[09:37] <daurnimator> is gutsy out?
[09:38] <daurnimator> I've just read that it IS out on some new site
[09:38] <daurnimator> *news
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> several of us have been using it already
[09:38] <Seveas> !release
[09:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:38] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong it could be nice to take pictures and record video, and livestreaming could be nice to! :-)
[09:38] <daurnimator> where can I grab it?
[09:38] <contrast83> Would someone mind having a quick look at my .xinitrc to see if there's an apparent reason it's not doing *anything*? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41035/
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> daurnimator: update-manager -c -d -p
[09:39] <WaltzingAlong> !webcam | Sp0tUb
[09:39] <ubotu> Sp0tUb: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:39] <daurnimator> I'm just about to install a NEW installation
[09:39] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong Thanks, i just have a look then! :-) But im new n linux, so i hope i dont have to hardcorecode! :-)
[09:39] <daurnimator>  - I need the cd image or w/e
[09:39] <WaltzingAlong> daurnimator: then you wait some
[09:39] <Seveas> daurnimator, gutsy isn't released yet. No images
[09:39] <daurnimator> dagm
[09:39] <jingjang> hu hu hu, i want to downloads ubuntu 7.10 today, anybody.......
[09:39] <smmagic> Gutsy release is just as good
[09:39] <daurnimator> how many hours then?
[09:40] <moDumass> how do we enable 3d in 7.10?
[09:40] <Seveas> daurnimator, every time you ask, one hour extra
[09:40] <susscorfa> its enabled by default moDumass
[09:40] <daurnimator> how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then?
[09:40] <daurnimator> haha, now you guys aren't getting it till tomorrow
[09:40] <KoweSix> you are funny..........
[09:40] <KoweSix> NOOOOOOOOOOT
[09:40] <KoweSix> xE
[09:41]  * daurnimator really isn't
[09:41] <murlidhar> frostburn: what after ./configure
[09:41] <jinx099> why dont u all just upgrade now?
[09:41] <murlidhar> frostburn: run?
[09:41] <zerok> Seveas, tnx ;)
[09:41] <ShredZ> I want to monitor a vnc+firefox using supervise, however, the vncserver startup script runs the Xtighvnc with an & so the script exits and supervise constantly tries to respawn it. How do I make XtightVNC the foreground app ?
[09:42] <frostburn> murlidhar, sudo make && make install  and it should work
[09:43] <Masj> Is there a known problem that prevents 7.10 to run Compiz-Fusion on multiple screens for example tvout?
[09:43] <nbjayme> hello all. I have added a network (pci) card into my system.  I am using feisty.  the network card is rtl8139c  how do i add this?  (i have restarted my computer but i do not see an eth1 in the network-admin). thanks for the help.
[09:43] <murlidhar> frostburn: is it compatible to listen media player
[09:43] <frostburn> murlidhar, no idea, i've never used it
[09:43] <Xinax> i cant wait for 7.10!
[09:43] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong It dosent work! :-( It's a build in cam
[09:44] <Ademan> Masj: no idea, but looking at launchpad might be a good idea
[09:44] <Xinax> when will 7.10 be released?
[09:44] <Sp0tUb> today
[09:44] <Alp`> today
[09:44] <frostburn> Xinax, /topic
[09:44] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tUb: check the output of lspci  or lsusb   even
[09:44] <Alp`> #ubuntu-release-party
[09:44] <Kerpal> Hey guys i'm using an RT73 chipset USB wireless adapter and whenever i try to connect to anything with it, Ubuntu freezes, i can ping google through the terminal but no GUI applications work
[09:44] <willwill> Xinax$ <Seveas> every time you ask, one hour extra
[09:44] <Xinax> ok
[09:44] <jimmyww> no one knows when today though
[09:45] <Xinax> when when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when?
[09:45] <Xinax> :x
[09:45] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong what??
[09:45] <tombs> he was fast... LOL
[09:45] <d1n0> are there no big updates in the final release today?
[09:45] <MrBister> Anyone from Sweden online?
[09:45] <Sbucat> xD
[09:46] <bugSmasher> Hursaa
[09:46] <Kaiserlich> MrBister: sure
[09:46] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong how to do that?
[09:46] <susscorfa> !se | MrBister
[09:46] <ubotu> MrBister: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:46] <MrBister> tips om snabb svensk ftp-spegel? :D
[09:46] <Kaiserlich> MrBister: sunet?
[09:47] <jflash> is there a big diference btw stalling twisted from a tarball and installing it with aptitute?
[09:47] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tUb: jump to a vterminal. type  lspci  && lsusb                           copy then paste your output to       http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:48] <WaltzingAlong> jflash: the package manager cannot keep track of that which was not installed through the package managers (through apt/dpkg)
[09:48] <jflash> i can't get access to python-twisted on the repos because i'm running Ubuntu Breeze ( old )
[09:48] <livingdaylight> HOLA UBUNTEROS ! ! !
[09:48] <kal> hi is gutsy out yet?
[09:48] <cafuego> Every time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.
[09:48] <Seeker`> kal: no
[09:48] <tombs> does anyone knows how to convert .avi to .rm please?
[09:48]  * livingdaylight is listening to Europe - Its THE FINAL COUNTDOWN ! ! !
[09:48] <Seveas> livingdaylight, err, there will be a countdown every 6 months :p
[09:49] <livingdaylight> .... We're leaving together...
[09:49] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong a Vterminal?? What is that, sorry, but i dont know
[09:49] <Seveas> livingdaylight, and partying in #ubuntu-release-party please
[09:49] <livingdaylight> :? ok, senor
[09:49] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tUb: "text mode", command prompt, "dos"; not sure where to find it in gnome
[09:49] <dxdt> livingdaylight:   do do do due do!  do do do!  do do do di due!  great, now that's gonna be in my head all day...... :(
[09:50] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong can i use my "Terminal"?
[09:50] <dxdt> Does Gutsy come with DOS like windows95 or is it more like XP?
[09:50] <zerok> wtf
[09:50] <Four23619> o please no
[09:50] <WaltzingAlong> dxdt: neither really are good comparisons
[09:50] <d1n0> its more like windows 98
[09:51] <Four23619> if Gutsy was ever like Windows XP....
[09:51] <Four23619> yuck
[09:51] <Sp0tUb> XP suxx :-)
[09:51] <Impian> hi guys :-) we all waiting for Gutsy then are we? :-)
[09:51] <Sp0tUb> Vista too
[09:51] <cafuego> dxdt: it's more like Linux with Gnome, actually.
[09:51] <Seveas> Impian, #ubuntu-release-party is ;)
[09:51] <Four23619> KDE4 is looking nice
[09:51] <Seveas> cafuego, shocking!
[09:51] <zerok> Impian, nope, this is the official leopard channel :P
[09:51] <bet0x> what is the localized channel for argentina?
[09:51] <Impian> rofl!
[09:51] <cafuego> Seveas: It ort to be illegal!
[09:51] <doppelgaenger> Is the 7.10 final already up ?
[09:51] <jimmyww> no
[09:51] <Sp0tUb> no
[09:51] <Seveas> no
[09:51] <bet0x> no
[09:51] <ole> dxdt: go wash your mouth ;)
[09:51] <cafuego> Every time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.
[09:51] <nc> no
[09:52] <Four23619> no
[09:52] <jimmyww> no yet
[09:52] <Seveas> no
[09:52] <dxdt> christ nobody reads the topic or checks ubuntu.com
[09:52] <bet0x> no
[09:52] <doppelgaenger> argl :-(
[09:52] <Seveas> let's all say no :p
[09:52] <K99Brain> no
[09:52] <doppelgaenger> no
[09:52] <dxdt> yes
[09:52] <XsteelWolf> Anyone good with iptables that could help out?
[09:52] <Impian> no :p
[09:52] <Four23619> no
[09:52] <bet0x> no
[09:52] <nc> :p
[09:52] <CyberJack_77> no
[09:52] <nc> no
[09:52] <bet0x> no
[09:52] <jimmyww> no again
[09:52] <doppelgaenger> XsteelWolf, use shorewall ;-)
[09:52] <dxdt> nein
[09:52] <Impian> no, but it's working as intended.
[09:52] <bet0x> no
[09:52] <jimmyww> no
[09:52] <nat3> - -"
[09:52] <Seveas> still no
[09:52] <susscorfa> !iptables | XsteelWolf
[09:52] <ubotu> XsteelWolf: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:52] <jimmyww> nope
[09:52] <jimmyww> nah
[09:52] <bet0x> !<../< | <-->
[09:52] <Impian> last time i checked, which was 10 seconds ago, still nope sorry :p
[09:52] <XsteelWolf> Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 2 failed .anyone know this error?
[09:52] <bet0x> :D
[09:52] <cafuego> Currently on schedule for Saturday Nov 15 2031 @ 15:20
[09:52] <bjwebb> hi
[09:52] <Seveas> cafuego, ;)
[09:52] <jimmyww> not quite
[09:53] <dxdt> XsteelWolf: are you sudoing it?
[09:53] <moDumass> susscorfa hmm, i may have some issues then,
[09:53] <dxdt> XsteelWolf: like sudo iptables-restore
[09:53] <bet0x> what is the localized channel for argentina?
[09:53] <doppelgaenger> XsteelWolf, the syntax is quite complex so it can be a lot which cuases such a parse error
[09:53] <jimmyww> not currently
[09:53] <doppelgaenger> no
[09:53] <jimmyww> so still no
[09:53] <doppelgaenger> cya later
[09:53] <jimmyww> cya
[09:53] <cafuego> Seveas: it feels like it's all the 300 extra suers ask about
[09:53] <XsteelWolf> i just did nano /etc/sysconfig/iptables ,paste in my firewall rules and did a service iptables restart
[09:53] <XsteelWolf> and i got this error
[09:54] <MrBister> do you guys think it will run fine on a P3-900MHz with SCSI disks?
[09:54] <susscorfa> i guess you can disable it easily moDumass
[09:54] <Seveas> almost 1500 people in here and the US is still sleeping
[09:54] <moDumass> susscorfa im struggling to get it going
[09:54] <cafuego> they've been asleep since 6 years ago
[09:54] <dxdt> Seveas: well, not totally right.   I mean I'm from the US
[09:54] <willwill> @now
[09:54] <Seveas> shall we break 1600?
[09:54] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 18 2007, 08:54:24 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day
[09:54] <Sp0tUb> WaltzingAlong another thing, i just got a Vega 1221 laptop, and the screen is lighting up and down, even when i use the laptop, is that a typical error?
[09:54] <Seveas> cafuego, ;)
[09:54] <cafuego> But that's really not topical right now or right here ;-)
[09:54] <willwill> @now America/New York
[09:54] <ubotu> Current time in America/New_York: October 18 2007, 04:54:49 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day
[09:55] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tUb: does not sound so.
[09:55] <WaltzingAlong> !fixres | Sp0tUb
[09:55] <ubotu> Sp0tUb: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:55] <susscorfa> i guess diriver support also improved moDumass otherwise just first try it from live cd
[09:55] <karnage42> so is there any hope for raid support to be integrated into ubuntu...perhaps in heron?
[09:56] <dxdt> They went with Heron instead of Hungry Hippos???? That sucks.
[09:56] <moDumass> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[09:57] <susscorfa> i have no idea of the error moDumass
[09:57] <Assid> heya
[09:58] <Assid> woohoo gutsy is final :P
[09:58] <moDumass> susscorfa its an error that gets thrown up when i try to install nvidia-glx-new in any way
[09:58] <cyphase> yep :)
[09:58]  * cyphase is downloading
[09:58] <jscinoz> will much change from the RC to final?
[09:59] <Assid> jscinoz: not really much
[09:59] <XsteelWolf> I added this exactly to /etc/sysconfig/iptables -> http://www.pastebin.ca/740838 can someone let me know what's the error?
[09:59] <mahone> Hi, what is the command to see the UUIDs of mounted partitions?
[09:59] <Assid> mahone: mount   should show it
[09:59] <Assid> you could also check /etc/fstab if they are mounted
[09:59] <dxdt> mahone: I think they would be in fstab.  You could check there
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> !uuid | mahone
[09:59] <ubotu> mahone: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:59] <jscinoz> malhone, you could try this "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid"
[09:59] <dxdt> well that was handy ubotu
[09:59] <l3dx> anyone knows anything if gutsy will be released today?
[09:59] <Assid> l3dx: yes
[10:00] <Assid> l3dx: if you are using the released candidate.. adept will take care of everything
[10:00] <jscinoz> why do fat32 drives have such short uuids?
[10:00] <l3dx> I'm currently on feisty
[10:00] <Impian> right, gutsy gibbon is out :p
[10:00] <Impian> change the motd? lol
[10:00] <jscinoz> out? yays
[10:00] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu allocate for the udev filesystem 248 MB disk space although it uses only a very small amount (112K) of it?
[10:00] <murlidhar> is it out?????
[10:01] <dxdt> webpage doesn't show it as out
[10:01] <accumulator> coming soon
[10:01] <_Ra_> :)
[10:01] <WebGuest> yay!
[10:01] <susscorfa> moDumass: did you gogole it?
[10:01] <murlidhar> yeah it's out check out this http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:01] <moDumass> susscorfa yeh ive been googling it since last night
[10:01] <mahone> OK, blkid works fine. Thanks
[10:02] <murlidhar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/
[10:02] <Myrtti> THE RELEASE IS NOT OFFICIAL YET
[10:02] <Keypad_NZ> Lies.
[10:02] <Seveas> bullgard4, it doesn't. The FS is in memory
[10:02] <Myrtti> please, hold your horses
[10:02] <murlidhar> Myrtti: it's official
[10:02] <WebGuest> Its out though :D
[10:02] <Keypad_NZ> Its out
[10:02] <Assid> people should use torrents as much as possible
[10:02] <Seveas> now chill.
[10:02] <vistakiller> what time will be out 6.10?
[10:02] <Assid> it helps use the bandwith of the peers and allows more people to get it sooner than later
[10:02] <Myrtti> vistakiller: "when it's done"
[10:02] <vistakiller> :)
[10:02] <Seveas> there's no need to riot in here, this is a support channel. Release partying in #ubuntu-release-party
[10:03] <t94xr> http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/
[10:03] <t94xr> ITS OUT!!!
[10:03] <arcad3> today is the release day?
[10:03] <stdin> no it's not
[10:03] <dxdt> vistakiller: 6.10 has been out for a while
[10:03] <willwill> Every time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.
[10:03] <Sbucat> GUTSY IS OUT
[10:03]  * Seveas sharpens the kickstick
[10:04] <dxdt> I can actually feel the webpage slowing down from you people refreshing
[10:04] <dxdt> stop it
[10:04] <susscorfa> sorry i cant help you any futher moDumass
[10:04] <Assid> hhaaha
[10:04] <Seveas> dxdt, :)
[10:04] <xipietotec> gah, stupid suspend is only putting one of my cpu's to sleep
[10:04] <Assid> torrent... people should use torrents
[10:04] <moDumass> susscorfa thats alright, il keep checkin back every few hours, hopefully someone will know whats wrong
[10:04] <arcad3> when it will be safe to update to 7.10?
[10:04] <moDumass> !geforce
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about geforce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Assid> arcad3: today ? tomorrow?
[10:05] <Assid> moDumass: ?
[10:05] <Assid> !nvidia | moDumass
[10:05] <ubotu> moDumass: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <nikola> sase
[10:05] <nikola> sase
[10:05] <nikola> sase
[10:05] <nikola> sase
[10:05] <nikola> sase
[10:05] <nikola> sase
[10:05] <kal> hi the ubuntu page seems slow
[10:05] <moDumass> Assid, ive been there, i think its a repository issue
[10:05] <kal> is it out yet?
[10:05] <Ayabara> The window decoration on my Compiz won't start, so I get no title bars on my windows. Anyone got an idea how to fix this?
[10:05] <arcad3> nikola esti romanka/
[10:05] <Seveas> kal, that's because people glued their F5 button
[10:05] <Assid> moDumass: if your using gutsy, the alternate drivers should be loaded
[10:05] <kal> good idea!
[10:06] <superkirbyartist> !language > arcad3
[10:06] <tucuna> looks like 7.10 has been released: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[10:06] <Assid> or atleast should have prompted you to do so
[10:06] <xipietotec> Seveas, would you have any clue regarding this? My suspend isn't working, and I don't even think it has much to do with the nvidia binary...its not throwing up errors from the gpu or anything, it's just only putting 1 of my cpu's to sleep
[10:06] <Assid> you should really mention what problemsyou are facing tho
[10:06] <moDumass> Assid, Restricted Drivers is turned off and when i try to turn them back on it throws up an error message
[10:06] <UB`> do you know why Gutsy is not been released yet?
[10:06] <Assid> moDumass: really odd..
[10:06] <UB`> the final release
[10:07] <dxdt> xipietotec: load X without the nvidia driver real quikc and see if the problem is still there
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> UB`: #ubuntu-release-party for all release anticipation stuff
[10:07] <Madpilot> UB`, because it's not ready? And it's only about 9am local in London
[10:07] <Assid> UB`: it has.. you should wait for mirrors to be udpated if it isnt.
[10:07] <superkirbyartist> UB` They went to bed in their timezone.
[10:07] <BWGames> Madpilot: 10am local in london
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Assid: no, it has not.
[10:07] <Assid> its not ?
[10:07] <Madpilot> BWGames, close enough
[10:07] <UB`> superkirbyartist :)
[10:07] <BWGames> Madpilot: true ;)
[10:07] <digitalspaghetti> Is it safe to run update-manager -c -d yet?
[10:07] <Assid> wtf is those links im seeing?
[10:07] <UB`> thanks
[10:07] <xipietotec> lemme try killing compiz entirely for a moment and trying it.... brb
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Assid: not until the topic changes in #ubuntu-release-party - /msg ubotu links
[10:07] <moDumass> Assid, and this is the error i get when i try to install it through term http://www.pastebin.org/5155
[10:08] <zrk> hi
[10:08] <Assid> moDumass: i really am not the best person to help you on this.. ask the channel
[10:09] <bugSmasher> "ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso" : Aborting the torrent as it was rejected by the tracker while not connected to any peers.  Message from the tracker: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker.
[10:09] <superkirbyartist> If you want Gusty say 23432.
[10:09] <dxdt> no
[10:09] <Myrtti> !traffic
[10:09] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[10:09] <zrk> have anyone who can tell me how to use QQ
[10:10] <ybotk> Ah, can't join #ubuntu+1
[10:10] <Jymmm> How do you add a whole subnet ?
[10:10] <ozzloy> i have the crontab * * * * * amarok -t, but it's not working.  i can do it from the command line.  any ideas?
[10:10] <Jymmm> /29
[10:10] <Ayabara> !compiz
[10:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[10:11] <Seveas> ozzloy, you can't launch gui things from cron
[10:11] <ozzloy> Seveas: i'm not trying to launch a gui app, i'm trying to play/pause an already running gui app
[10:11] <arcad3> Jymm be more specific
[10:11]  * ybotk wonders why it is forwarding to this channel.
[10:11] <ozzloy> Seveas: also, i didn't know that.  why not?
[10:11] <cafuego> $DISPLAY
[10:11] <Seveas> ozzloy, probably it still wants to open the display, ehich it can't
[10:11] <superkirbyartist> SOFTWARE UPGRADES!
[10:12] <ozzloy> iiinteresting
[10:12] <ozzloy> i vaguely recall this
[10:12] <Madpilot> ybotk, +1 is closed until the next dev version starts up in 2-3 weeks
[10:12] <jscinoz> hey Cafuego and Seveas, never seen you guys on irc before, love your repos though :)
[10:12] <Tesla|Work> cant see ant seeds on ubuntu 7.10 desktop o386 torrent :(
[10:12] <Necrosan_> the the bcm fwcutter stuff
[10:12] <Necrosan_> what firmware do i neeed
[10:12] <Necrosan_> ?
[10:12] <ozzloy> i have to do something like display 0:0 amarok -t
[10:12]  * cafuego denies all knowledge
[10:12] <Necrosan_> im using amd64 btw
[10:12] <Seveas> !enter | Necrosan_
[10:12] <ubotu> Necrosan_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:12] <JBAlaska> wow banned from the release party channel for  posting the live link to 7.10 WTH?
[10:12] <Jymmm> arcad3: I need to add a range of ip's /29 subnet, not sure how. using alises eth0:30 just doens't seem right
[10:12] <ybotk> Seveas, Do you know why #ubuntu+1 is forwarding here?
[10:12] <Necrosan_> sorry dude, got an answer?
[10:13] <jscinoz> ybotk, because of the gutsy release?
[10:13] <Seveas> ybotk, Madpilot told you
[10:13] <dxdt> JBAlaska: maybe you should have read teh topic.
[10:13] <hyper_ch> hiho, the torrent tracker has problems... Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] --> I downloaded the ISOs but can't seed... suggestions?
[10:13] <JBAlaska> but I'm downloading the darn final now lol
[10:13] <dxdt> JBAlaska: I'm actually pretty sure it specifically told you not to post links like that.  That is probably why.
[10:14] <JBAlaska> not rc
[10:14] <ybotk> Okay, I apologize I missed it.  I see it now.
[10:14] <jscinoz> Hey guys, im trying to generate a repository using falcon 2.0, however on running "falcon scan" or "falcon clean" the program crashes with the following output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41040/
[10:14] <murlidhar> hyper_ch: cuz it's not yet official released
[10:14]  * cafuego nudges Seveas
[10:14] <Seveas> jscinoz, falcon is not included in ubuntu and #ubuntu does not support it
[10:14] <Seveas> cafuego, sshhh it's broken :p
[10:14] <jscinoz> :(
[10:15] <cafuego> 1.x works fine ;-)
[10:15] <Seveas> cafuego, package doesn't install on anything newer than dapper :p
[10:15] <cafuego> or whatever it is that i have
[10:15] <cafuego> Seveas: I'm running it on amd64 feisty <heh>
[10:15] <sebrock> Anyone using the Intel DG33TL motherboard? Is it supported?
[10:15] <cafuego> I may or may not have modified the debian/control file though
[10:15] <Ralfm> yes ... finnish downloading the gutsy iso :-)
[10:16] <hyper_ch> murlidhar: why is it here then? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[10:16] <Jymmm> arcad3: understand?
[10:16] <cafuego> Oh no, it's in the chroot.
[10:16] <Assid> people DONT DOWNLOAD
[10:16] <Ed_L> walEDLi2006
[10:16] <arcad3> not quite
[10:16] <Ed_L> oh shit
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Ed_L
[10:16] <ubotu> Ed_L: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:16] <Tesla|Work> Assid: how about torrents?
[10:16] <cafuego> h4x
[10:16] <murlidhar> Yes please don't DOWNLOAD
[10:16] <Jymmm> arcad3 I have 30 ip addressesm how do I configure them on one box?
[10:17] <ozzloy> Seveas: it was this: * * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 amarok -t
[10:17] <hyper_ch> why is it here
[10:17] <cafuego> Jymmm: eth0:0 eth0:1,... eth0:29
[10:17] <willwill> murlidhar$ why?
[10:17] <Myrtti> !link | hyper_ch
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <Myrtti> ach
[10:17] <Jymmm> cafuego: what if it was a /23 ?  that be HUGE
[10:17] <hyper_ch> Myrtti: ???
[10:17] <arcad3> u want those 30 addresses to be routed to eth0:..?
[10:17] <ozzloy> thank you!
[10:17] <Myrtti> hyper_ch: it's not official yet, changes may come
[10:17] <cafuego> Jymmm: Lots of typing in interfaces(5) eh?
[10:18] <moDumass> hey channel of love and understanding, why forth art not my vidcard being as 3d as it can be?
[10:18] <hyper_ch> Myrtti: why was it then put there? a few min ago there were no isos there ... nothing
[10:18] <moDumass> why forth giveth it this error msg http://www.pastebin.org/5155
[10:18] <ozzloy> Seveas: thank you!  gnight everyone!
[10:18] <Madpilot> moDumass, I'm not a vidcard expert, but bonus points for being Shakespearean. :)
[10:18] <Myrtti> hyper_ch: testing purposes or any good reason you might come up with, but not official release
[10:18] <|Assid|> stupid net connection
[10:19] <hyper_ch> Myrtti: that sux ;)
[10:19] <Jymmm> arcad3 I want of them to responde on the same eth0
[10:19] <cafuego> moDumass: Because it would appear that nvidia-glx-new is not conflicting with nvidia-glx, like it maybe should.
[10:19] <oobe> does anyone know if there are any compatablity issues using 64 version of ubuntu
[10:19] <arcad3> hmm
[10:19] <Grymnyr> Myrtti, is the release not official yet? so there can come changes today?
[10:19] <Assid> Tesla|Work: torrents should be okay since its peer driven
[10:19] <cafuego> moDumass: Just remove nvidia-glx-new first, you'll be right.
[10:19] <oobe> like not being able to install certan packages
[10:19] <kishan> !party
[10:19] <ubotu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties
[10:19] <arcad3> on eth0 is ur IP and u can route those 30 ips to an external interface EX:eth1
[10:20] <fay_elf> How ppp+firewall? Nothing works guarddog, protocols selected dhcp allow ppp0
[10:20] <[XS]> !topic
[10:20] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:20] <murlidhar> Myrtti: sorry i should have known that it is for tesiting purposes and i dugg it :(
[10:20] <hyper_ch> Myrtti: luckily I didn't start downloading from my server to my computer yet ;)
[10:20] <moDumass> cafuego, nvidia-glx-new isnt installed in synaptic, should i remove it completely
[10:20] <murlidhar> Seveas: i didn't know that it was testing purposes sorry
[10:21] <Myrtti> murlidhar: relax
[10:21] <youser> is   gutsy   officially in  update    manager??????
[10:21] <Myrtti> youser: no
[10:21] <Wikzo> Does anyone know when 7.10 will be in the official update manager?
[10:21] <youser> alright  good i thoughht  my ubuntu was shitting  onn me
[10:21] <Grymnyr> who is in charge of this channel? I mean, who has op and can unban people? I know a guy, who was not so long ago banned, but it was an error
[10:21] <ybotk> Seveas, It was just a joke :)
[10:21] <Myrtti> Wikzo: soon
[10:22] <Myrtti> Grymnyr: consult #ubuntu-ops for such issues
[10:22] <bullgard4> Seveas: Thank you for your hint.
[10:22] <kane77> are there packages for groovy available?
[10:22] <alain> hello.. want to ask.. y is my menu icons are gone... all i can see are text.
[10:22] <Grymnyr> Myrtti, thanks
[10:23] <mobal> hi
[10:23] <youser> also i couldnt rc upgrade because  dbus  couldnt initiate and current dist was not  found in  meta-release file
[10:23] <stereo__> moin talex
[10:23] <moDumass> cafuego should i remove it completely even though neither of them are installed?
[10:23] <alain> i dont know wat went wrong the icons on my main menu are gone.. wat should i do to make it back
[10:23] <mobal> i need the new release
[10:23] <mobal> it will be good
[10:23] <mobal> i know :D
[10:24] <cafuego> moDumass: The package system certainly thinks it's installed.
[10:24] <kal> hi where can i track the gutsy release?
[10:24] <hydra_> someone downloading it already?
[10:24] <Madpilot> !gutsy
[10:24] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:24] <endra> how can I tell aptitude to double check xubuntu-desktop is installed correctly?