[02:00] <cyb0rg> hi, is there a way to make alt+tab cycle through windows instead of show desktop?
[02:01] <cyb0rg> Plasma is pretty cool so far, but wtf is up with that change?
[02:04] <cyb0rg> ok, found the shortcut hidden in an inappropriate menu ("system settings" shortcuts. Cycling windows is not a system setting)
[02:05] <cyb0rg> ok now I am more confused. alt+tab is already walk through windows, but it just switches between showing the desktop or my windows.
[02:12] <cyb0rg> ok, found this issue. It was having it set to cycle through activities. I thought that meant windows within all activities. A bit ambiguous, but fair enough.
[02:40] <Ichsan> Hi Kubuntu developers. I've been Kubuntu fans since its early releases. After upgraded my Kubuntu from 16.04 into 18.04, I saw many good things. It's so awesome running on my gaming notebook! And I just want to say thank you for the greatest OS I've ever used!
[03:13] <designbybeck> WHY KDE WHY!... 18.04!? still randomness!? I want to love you... I really really do! You were so much more closer to Unity 16.04  with some configuring
[03:13] <designbybeck> I can't even do a screen shot with Shutter!
[03:13] <designbybeck> :( makes me so sad.... so so sad...what do I do with my life
 @designbybeck, That's because of Wayland
 @designbybeck, Switch back to X.org
[03:15] <designbybeck> IrcsomeBot:  !?!?! Wayland!? is it in Kubuntu? or in Gnome!?
[03:16] <designbybeck> I agree we need something beside of x.org!
[03:16] <designbybeck> Wayland was something, Mir? was it? was something else? but just make it all work
[03:18] <designbybeck> I had this configured as close to Unity as I could...it was so sweet! streamlined ..Gnome was close..it was.. And I wanted to enjoy it
[03:19] <designbybeck> I can enlarge my font/text for date/time, but not my icons
 @designbybeck, System Settings -> icons .... Advanced tab -> Panel.... set the size and restart plasma is change is not immediate.
 ^if change^
[03:22] <designbybeck> no no no DarinMiller... the taskbar
[03:23] <designbybeck> I can't do a screen shot with Shutter or I'd show you... Shutter is the best for that...so easy in ANY other distro!
 Oh, right click on task bar and use the slider to change icon size.
[03:23] <designbybeck> MAKE ME LOVE YOU! ....I'll be your best friend!  I'll promote many great things!
[03:24] <designbybeck> no no no.... see DarinMiller this was the great thing about Unity!... SIMPLE... streamlined ....gets out of your way
[03:24] <designbybeck> I do graphic design, video editing, 3D, I want my screen real estate!
[03:25] <designbybeck> I want VERY little OS in my way... Let me work!
 Unity is still available as far as I know.... I personally hide all my panels so I have 100% screen realestate.
[03:25] <designbybeck> ...by the way, I must say I'm on a HiDEF screen, so maybe that has a lil' to do with this
[03:25] <designbybeck> on a lptop
[03:25] <designbybeck> laptop
 Me too.
[03:26] <designbybeck> Hmmmm.....
[03:26] <designbybeck> but I want to see give or take 20px bar with date/time
[03:26] <designbybeck> easy HUD with "super" key
[03:27] <designbybeck> and Shutter to work out of the box . Along with hot corners for desktops
 The upper right hot corner is the only corner defined by default in kde, the rest are up to the user.
[03:29] <designbybeck> yeah I got of few of those lined out. Which I like!
 I 100% agree with you in regards to Spectacle...needs lots of work to catch up with other screen capture tools.
[03:29] <designbybeck> what is Spectacle?
 The default screen capture tool.
[03:30] <designbybeck> ...I only revisit KDE/Kubuntu once a year give or take! ? I do like what they have going on,....just over complicated....to much.  Don't be Windows...
[03:31] <designbybeck> I don't know Spectacle? Do You know Shutter? I haven't met its equal in LInux?
 The devs are very responsive to input.  If someone puts up a good case for better defaults, they make it happen.  Those of us that use it for a while are used to the complication and forget that not everyone has the same background.
[03:33] <designbybeck> I can respect that DarinMiller... and I understand that! ...which is why I'd love to win the Lotto and pay them all  :)
 Yes, I have used an like shutter very much.
[03:34] <designbybeck> I try to teach streamlined, efficient, Open Source useage in all I do
[03:36] <designbybeck> My Love/Hate with KDE/Kubuntu is to complex for streamlineness. I was brainstorming on BEKoS ...(BECK OS) ...(forgot what I was calling it) But I was going to take all the KDE stuff and take out all the no needed settings for basic
[03:38] <designbybeck> It would be great for KDE Lite... Mirror what Unity was. I know there have been a few settings along those lines
[03:38] <designbybeck> Themes and such
 I see a couple in the Theme downloads:
 (Photo, 775x681) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iH03pJAw/file_7088.jpg
[03:40] <designbybeck> Though I understand if I learn programming myself I can help the cause! I am just not there yet!
[03:40] <designbybeck> ....I'm like a noob!
[05:17] <jozo> hello
[05:17] <jozo> I am not able to set mouse cursor shape in config
[05:18] <jozo> When I download ubuntuaero mouse cursor theme
[05:18] <jozo> arrow cursor is OK
[05:18] <jozo> but of I go on the link in chrome for example cursor is black
[05:19] <jozo> how can be this fixed ?
[05:19] <jozo> also it is not possible to set usb mouse sensitivity
[05:21] <jozo> https://store.kde.org/p/999992/ this theme btw
[05:21] <valorie> it's possible that the theme doesn't work for Gtk applications such as chrome
[05:21] <valorie> have you tried Falkon?
[05:21] <valorie> it has totally replaced chrome for me
[05:22] <valorie> !info falkon
[05:22] <jozo> valorie: it is also not working with qt apps
[05:23] <jozo> valorie: and on kubuntu 14.04 it works for everything
[05:23] <valorie> interesting
[05:23] <valorie> well, we don't support things we don't package
[05:23] <valorie> and we don't package themes
[05:23] <jozo> ah :(
[05:24] <valorie> so I guess check with the person who wrote the theme?
[05:24] <valorie> perhaps some code changed in the past 2 years
[05:26] <jozo> and has kubuntu cursors similar as windows 7 ?in oficial package ?
[05:26] <valorie> not that I know of
[05:26] <valorie> I rarely change the defaults
[05:27] <valorie> don't know what cursors looked like in win7
[05:27] <valorie> not sure I ever used it
[05:28] <jozo> ok thanks
[05:29] <valorie> I mean, we could, but I don't know about it
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:19] <R13ose> Hi BluesKaj
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hi R13ose
[12:33] <timsag3> bye all! ^^
[12:35] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what's up?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> morning coffee here,  how about you, R13ose?
[12:43] <R13ose> Trying to solve my issues as always :)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> R13ose, remind me , what's the issue again?
[13:11] <R13ose> BluesKaj: trying to solve that kubuntu locks when booting up and unsure why.  I see the kubuntu but never get to login screen or desktop
[13:12] <BluesKaj> black screen with blinking cursor?
[13:17] <R13ose> BluesKaj: actually nope, I see kubuntu logo and I hit escape and then when this stops the blinking cursor stays then and then disappears.  I don't know if this is waiting for something but I feel this is too long.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F2-F6, login with username and pw , then sudo nano /etc/default/grub, then edit the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" by replacing "quiet splash" with nomodeset. Then ctl + o , enter, ctl + x to save and exit , then at the prompt , run  sudo update grub, then reboot
[13:19] <BluesKaj> correction: sudo update-grub
[13:21] <R13ose> I have also tried fsck and now badblocks.
[13:22] <R13ose> BluesKaj: where do I do what you are saying?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> in the black screen
[13:25] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I have to wait for badblocks to finish. Yet, there is no black screen but you mean when this is trying to boot, right?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:26] <R13ose> BluesKaj: should I try one boot after badblocks before doing yours or go straight into yours?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> depends , do you get the black screena fter bad blocks?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> after
[13:28] <R13ose> I have to wait and see.  Can we use a different word to black screen?
[13:28] <elichai2> Hey
[13:30] <elichai2> plasmashell stopped working in my laptop, when I start it I get sddm but after the launch only a terminal opens, if I run `plasmashell` in the terminal I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9473nT35n/ and inside dmesg I have: `[  200.667715] plasmashell[5773]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fabb9d1d526 sp 00007ffff6e1a400 error 4 in libkcupslib.so[7fabb9ce1000+55000]`
[13:31] <BluesKaj> R13ose, using ctl+alt+F2 to F6 gives you a TTY/VT which is a virtual terminal like the konsole, and then run the command i mentioned
[13:31] <elichai2> any ideas what to do? (I tried removing everything from that mentions kde/plasma from my HOME\.config\.cache, and tried to upgrade kde from the backports ppa)
[13:32] <elichai2> it might be because of this but i'm not sure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FNBPtfFxmV/
[13:33] <R13ose> BluesKaj: yes I know but does that work at boot screen?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> it should work after the Kubuntu logo disappears
[13:35] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what if kubuntu logo doesn't disappear?  I can't remember if this does or not
[13:36] <BluesKaj> elichai2, run sudo apt full-upgrade when the terminal appears
[13:37] <BluesKaj> R13ose, well, try rebooting to see
[13:37] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I will after badblocks, okay?
[13:37] <elichai2> BluesKaj: will it update to 18.04? I don't want to bring more problems, I'm right now on fully updated 17.10
[13:38] <BluesKaj> R13ose, don't run bad blocks
[13:39] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I already did and done 60%+
[13:40] <BluesKaj> elichai2, no it just upgrades all existing packages
[13:40] <BluesKaj> R13ose, then let i finish and try then
[13:41] <R13ose> BluesKaj: thanks.  I will let you know when done which is super slow.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> you could cancel it, ctl+c
[13:43] <R13ose> BluesKaj: will that cause any issues?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> it's just a scan afiak
[13:44] <R13ose> BluesKaj: What are the errors it says are there?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> dunno
[13:47] <R13ose> Might take hours more to finish.  I will cancel and see what happens.
[13:48] <elichai2> BluesKaj: ok, I did a full-upgrade
[13:49] <BluesKaj> elichai2, any upgrades happen?
[13:49] <elichai2> Nope
[13:51] <R13ose> BluesKaj: how long should I work a logo screen?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> elichai2, run sudo dpkg --configure -a. then sudo apt  -f install
[13:52] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I am at busybox built-in shell noe
[13:52] <R13ose> now*
[13:53] <elichai2> BluesKaj: ran, nothing happened
[13:53] <BluesKaj> R13ose, til the the logo disappears and the blinking cursor in the top left appears
[13:54] <R13ose> Ok.
[13:54] <R13ose> BluesKaj: any thoughts what to do at busybox built-in shell?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> yeah R13ose\, reboot
[13:55] <BluesKaj> don't run bad blocks again
[13:55] <R13ose> Okay sorry
[14:03] <BluesKaj> elichai2, run sudo apt install --reinstall cups
[14:05] <R13ose> BluesKaj: says mount: can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root in fstab.  How to fix?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> R13ose, are you using LVM  or some kind of new file system
[14:10] <R13ose> LVM
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dunno much about LVM, since i don't need it ..think you need to do some research how fstab handles LVM partitions, R13ose
[14:17] <R13ose> Thanks
[14:18] <BluesKaj> R13ose, also since it's not dektop releated you could ask in #ubuntu chat as well. There a re quite few knowlegeable people there regarding LVM etc
[14:19] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I shouldn't ask in #lvm?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> you could ask there too , of course
[14:20] <R13ose> Okay thanks
[14:20] <BluesKaj> np
[14:23] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I asked in both and will wait
[14:29] <R13ose> BluesKaj: where is boot log?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> R13ose, in /var/log
[14:48] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I don't see log but I didn't go into the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg- ones
[14:48] <BluesKaj> r  look in root in dolphin, then/var/log
[14:49] <BluesKaj> brb,...gotta reboot
[14:56] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I am in busybox built-in shell not GUI
[15:00] <R13ose> BluesKaj: also the person helped me in #ubuntu said they don't anymore
[15:05] <BluesKaj> don't help, whynot?
[15:14] <R13ose> BluesKaj: only pointed me to a link that didn't work out
[15:15] <R13ose> BluesKaj: should I try: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/
[15:22] <BluesKaj> I really don't know much about busybox, used it a few times with e2fsck to fix a boot problem caused by my W7 install, but  got rid of windows and no longer have the problem
[15:23] <R13ose> Okay.
[15:28] <EvilRoey> what tools exist to give a sort of ActiveDirectory-like view to network management of Linux boxes?
[15:28] <EvilRoey> oh hi BluesKaj
[15:30] <kubuntu_> aye whats up
[15:30] <Guest66760> HI BOYS
[15:31] <GNARLY> HELLO
[15:31] <kubuntu_> hey
[15:31] <frankTM> @GNARLY
[15:31] <GNARLY> @frankTM
[15:37] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, netstat -nat command is one
[15:37] <EvilRoey> ok I suppose so, yes
[15:38] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, , not al your networked computers
[15:39] <BluesKaj> just the one you're using
[15:42] <EvilRoey> okkkkk
[15:42] <EvilRoey> * okk
[15:43] <EvilRoey> sorry, my keyboard's weird
[15:58] <viewer|35529> Is there an on-screen keyboard in Kubuntu or is it only accessible on the lock screen?
[16:03] <R13ose> BluesKaj: should I also try general linux channel?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> sure
[16:09] <BluesKaj> viewer|35529, look for virtual keyboard in the package manager, there are a few choices
 What's the best way to configure a synaptics touchpad? I want no taps and no areas defined but one finger klick is left mouse button and two finger klick is right mouse button.
[16:41] <skomorokh> "No candidate version found for unetbootin" ...is there a new recommended tool for building a bootable Kubuntu install usb? The page linked from the release notes is timing out http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html
[16:49] <rik-shaw> skomorokh: I prefer mkusb-nox (simple terminal version, but mkusb is there with a GUI if you want that).
[16:50] <rik-shaw> By default it takes the whole stick, and makes it read-only so is good for a UEFI compatible installer.
[16:50] <skomorokh> Doesn't seem to be in the repos or snap :(
[16:50] <rik-shaw> I use multibootusb if you don't need UEFI and want to use the drive for other things and want multiple Linux installers on one stick.  http://multibootusb.org/
[16:51] <skomorokh> Thanks, I'll give mkusb-nox a try, CLI + gets things right for UEFI the first time sounds like just the thing.
[16:52] <rik-shaw> yes. agreed!  Sorry can't recall if in main repos but if want most up-to-date can use ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mkusb/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:53] <rik-shaw> with stick installed, run "sudo mkusb-nox /path/to/iso.iso" and it has a nice interactive process from there.
[16:59] <batteronizer> Hi, has anyone else noticed icons in the panel sometimes showing the wrong state/not updating in 18.04? Seems like a bug.
[18:03] <viewer|56291> Does Kubuntu have a virtual/on-screen keyboard installed by default?
[20:40] <mattfly> hi
[20:40] <mattfly> anyone on a nvidia laptop?
[20:40] <R13ose> BluesKaj: ping
[21:02] <valorie> mattfly: I have one here; what's your question?
[21:02] <mattfly> hey are you able to hibernate on ur laptop?
[21:03] <mattfly> you have the nvidia-390 driver?
[21:03] <mattfly> kubuntu bionic?
[21:06] <mattfly> wait arent you the guy i just talked with not so long ago
[21:10] <valorie> I'm not a guy! so .....
[21:10] <valorie> :-)
[21:11] <valorie> hmm, never have tried to hibernate
[21:11] <valorie> I basically never shut it down
[21:11] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-20-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3399-3400/3800 MHz, RAM: 30959/32119 MB, Storage: 280/1144 GB, 273 procs, 643.12h up
[21:11] <valorie> my other little laptop hibernates perfectly but it is not nvidia
[21:12] <valorie> checking to see what driver I'm using
[21:12] <mattfly> is it a laptop?
[21:12] <valorie> yes, both
[21:12] <mattfly> oha
[21:12] <mattfly> i have reported a bug
[21:12] <valorie> yup, 390
[21:13] <valorie> ok, what's the bug number?
[21:13] <mattfly> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/1770491
[21:13] <valorie> I'll try to test for you
[21:13] <mattfly> whenever you can
[21:13] <mattfly> try to see if you can hibernate
[21:13] <valorie> oh, 384
[21:13] <mattfly> no
[21:13] <mattfly> thats the package name
[21:13] <mattfly> nvidia-384
[21:13] <valorie> ?
[21:13] <mattfly> the driver is 390
[21:13] <mattfly> idk why they make this mess
[21:14] <valorie> that's pointlessly confusing
[21:14] <mattfly> the ubuntu package nvidia-384 installs the driver named 390
[21:14] <mattfly> you can check it there
[21:14] <mattfly> try to see if hibernation works there anyway, im having this isssue since the alpha
[21:14] <mattfly> whenever you can
[21:15] <mattfly> and if you have the same problem reported there, give some feedback or tell me at least
[21:16] <valorie> I can try this later today
[21:16] <valorie> right now I'm trying to test the newest plasma
[21:17] <mattfly> oh 5.13?
[21:17] <mattfly> have you added the backports ppas?
[21:17] <valorie> did you see this, mattfly? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/667833
[21:18] <valorie> https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-5-bugfix-update-for-kubuntu-18-04-lts-testing-help-required/
[21:18] <mattfly> yes i posted that
[21:18] <valorie> ok
[21:18] <valorie> so there are eyes on this, good
[21:18] <mattfly> not really
[21:18] <valorie> I always use backports, yes
[21:18] <mattfly> nobody recognizes the bug so far
[21:19] <valorie> but we need to test the 5.12.5 release so that it can go into the point release in July
[21:20] <acheronuk> 5.13 is still beta
[21:20] <mattfly> so 5.13 will never be part of kubuntu bionic?
[21:21] <valorie> mattfly: not as part of point releases
[21:21] <acheronuk> mattfly: not in the main archive. it is not an LTS release, and depends on a not LTS Qt version. we will very likely have in a PPA for bionic for those who want leap off the LTS train
[21:22] <valorie> 5.12 Plasma is LTS, so we want to keep that for our lts > lts people
[21:22] <mattfly> alright
[21:22]  * valorie will leap into the future
[21:23] <acheronuk> https://i.imgur.com/zBm13Jf.png
[21:24]  * acheronuk hides
[21:25] <valorie> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/kde-plasma-5-13-features-upgrade
[21:25] <valorie> :-)
[21:25] <valorie> gosh, give me a minute dude, and I'll catch up!
[21:26] <mattfly> yeah i saw that this morning
[21:28] <valorie> hmmm, they got it a bit wrong as we've not decided whether or not to use the Backports PPA for this upgrade
[21:28] <valorie> since they didn't ask.....
[21:30] <acheronuk> many things in these articles are guesses based what happened before
[21:33] <valorie> yup
 @valorie, I would love to get 5.13 but I love stability. So I would like the idea to jump to 5.13.4 (or even 5.13.5) once it got out and stay with 5.12 until then.
[21:42] <acheronuk> even if we decide to put 5.13 in the main backports PPA, I think it unlikely will will push packages to it until at least the .2 or .3 bugfix release. keeping packages somewhere else for testing until then
 @acheronuk, Ah! 😊 That is good to hear. Thank you for the info!
[22:07] <valorie> IMO something like "plasma-backports" PPA would make sense -- depending on the state of Qt in the archive I suppose
[22:22] <evlich> i just installed kubuntu 18.04 using the minimal install option and it is a bit too minimal for me. is there an easy way (i.e. without reinstalling) to install the full installation?
[22:24] <Lord_chencho> nice job kubuntu team!
[22:41] <valorie> evlich: sure, just install whatever you like from either the commandline or using Discover or Muon
[22:41] <valorie> as usual
[22:42] <valorie> oh, and if you want everything, just sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[22:42] <valorie> that will pick up everything you missed
[22:43] <valorie> or you can do that via muon/discover


[06:14] <snarkster> hi, just reinstalled ubuntu on my tv computer, install the mythbunut-control-centre and now nothing works.
[14:20] <snarkster> !help
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[14:15] <Unit193> Pushed xfce4-settings 4.13.5 to PPA, this won't be in Cosmic but good to try anyway and might be nice, depending on if you use multimonitors.
[19:02] <ochosi> Unit193: thanks!


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[01:49] <not_MartinWimpre> woof
[05:09] <mup> PR snapd#2204 opened: Allow hostnamed access for network-manager and bluez <Created by morphis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2204>
[06:03] <morphis_> mvo: ping
[06:04] <mvo> morphis_: pong
[06:04] <morphis_> mvo: you rested a bit over the weekend? :-)
[06:06] <mvo> morphis_: yes, thank you! I feel much better
[06:06] <morphis_> great!
[06:06] <morphis_> mvo: I am wondering if we support BIOS-only systems today or just EFI ones
[06:07] <mup> PR snapd#2072 closed: cmd/snap: have 'snap autoimport' consider unmounted devices <Created by mwhudson> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2072>
[06:07] <mvo> morphis_: we do support both, I test regularly with the stock qemu which is bios only AFAIK
[06:07] <morphis_> so using regular pc gadget for amd64 should give me BIOS support too?
[06:08] <mvo> morphis_: correct
[06:08] <mvo> morphis_: is that not working for you? or are you just curious :) ?
[06:08] <morphis_> I tried to setup my HP Microserver Gen 8 with Ubuntu Core this morning but somehow it doesn't want to boot
[06:09] <mvo> morphis_: hm, strange. what errors do you see?
[06:09] <morphis_> but if general support is there then it must be something specific to the box
[06:09] <mvo> morphis_: I have not tested it much on real HW, davmor2 has tested it on a laptop
[06:09] <morphis_> mvo: it falls back to network-based boot on startup so somehow it doesn't detect the image on the USB stick
[06:10] <mvo> morphis_: interessting
[06:11] <morphis_> but let me check further
[06:11] <mvo> ok
[06:15] <mup> PR snapd#2201 closed: spread.yaml: Ensure ubuntu user has passwordless sudo for autopkgtests <Created by plars> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2201>
[07:33] <mup> PR snapd#2205 opened: snap, image: fix `snap download` and `snap prepare-image` running as user <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2205>
[07:45] <morphis_> davmor2: ping
[07:48] <mup> PR snapd#2206 opened: docs: less details about cloud.cfg <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2206>
[08:08] <morphis_> mvo: actually looks like the BIOS on the board can't boot the disk I get with the RC image, it works fine on my laptop though
[08:08] <morphis_> mvo: it always says "no system disk or disk error"
[08:10] <morphis_> mvo: also I am not sure to which degree gpt is the problem here
[08:14] <mvo> morphis_: oh, indeed - gpt sounds like a likely issue
[08:14] <morphis_> mvo: can I easily change that with a custom gadget?
[08:15] <morphis_> never really looked into that part yet
[08:15] <mvo> morphis_: I think so
[08:16] <morphis_> hm
[08:33] <morphis_> mvo: hm, this makes ubuntu-image pretty unhappy
[08:35] <mvo> morphis_: what is the error
[08:35] <morphis_> looks like it just is not really safe against giving incorrect values in gadget.yaml
[08:41] <darrenwu> morphis_, How to enable wake_on_lan by network-manager? I got a "permission denied".   https://paste.ubuntu.com/23373570/
[08:42] <morphis_> darrenwu: the best way to do this is to drop the netplan config file and configure ethernet directly through nm rather than via netplan
[08:44] <morphis_> darrenwu: that is the only way currently but please file a bug
[08:45] <darrenwu> morphis_, ok, I had filed a bug which on LP #1635122 already.
[08:46] <morphis_> darrenwu: I am off today, but will look into this one tomorrow when I am back
[08:48] <darrenwu> morphis_, thanks! Do I need to assign to you?
[08:48] <morphis_> darrenwu: please
[08:49] <darrenwu> morphis_, thx
[09:19] <mup> Bug #1569892 changed: /etc/profile.d/apps-bin-path.sh comment talks about /snaps/bin (which doesn't exist) when in reality it uses /snap/bin <amd64> <apport-bug> <xenial> <One Hundred Papercuts:Fix Released> <Snappy:Fix Released> <snapd (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1569892>
[09:19] <rvr> ogra_: Good morning, do you have new images for the Pi and Dragonboard?
[09:20] <ogra_> rvr, every day ;) http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/all-snaps/daily/
[09:20] <ogra_> oh
[09:20] <ogra_> not today it seems
[09:20]  * ogra_ goes to check why
[09:22] <ogra_> Building: /home/ogra/datengrab/images/snappy/daily/20161024/ubuntu-core-16-amd64.img
[09:22] <ogra_> error: cannot find snap "pc": Get https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/snaps/details/pc?channel=edge&confinement=strict: net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
[09:22] <ogra_> grr, network issue
[09:22] <mup> Bug #1587477 changed: snapd should not use /tmp to unpack snaps on systems where /tmp is a tmpfs (and thus limited in size) <Snappy:Fix Released> <snapd (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1587477>
[09:22] <mup> PR snapd#2207 opened: store: check hash in store.Download() (if we have a hash) <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2207>
[09:24] <ogra_> (building new ones now)
[09:33] <rvr> ogra_: Ack :)
[09:48] <ogra_> rvr, new dailies are up
[09:50] <rvr> Wee!
[10:13] <vigo> ogra_, great :)
[10:20] <mup> PR snapd#2208 opened: store: add support to resume partial downloads <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2208>
[10:43] <rvr> vigo: I don't get wifi connectivity on the Dragonboard. You?
[10:44] <mvo_> ogra_: I put a new godd into the store that supports reading from stdin (and writing to stdout) via "-" as the magic filename. iirc you asked about this
[10:44] <mvo_> ogra_: its in "edge" if you want to give it a go
[10:44] <vigo> rvr, I'm not with db yet
[10:44] <ogra_> mvo_, whee, will definitely do !
[10:45] <mvo_> :) great, let me know and if it works for you I will promote to beta
[10:52] <rvr> vigo: It is working after reboot
[10:53] <rvr> Hmm
[11:04] <vigo> rvr, cool
[11:04] <rvr> vigo: It is not :-/
[11:05] <rvr> I did a trick
[11:05] <rvr> I plugged a USB to ethernet adaptor
[11:05] <vigo> rvr, so does not work every fresh boot?
[11:05] <ogra_> interesting, wifi always works for me on the dragonboard ... never on the pi3 though
[11:06] <ogra_> (on first boot that is ... on second, they both work fine)
[11:24] <rvr> Hi fgimenez :)
[11:25] <rvr> ogra_: It's very weird. If the network credentials are introduced, console-conf saves them but doesn't apply it. However, after reboot, they are applied correctly.
[11:26] <fgimenez> hey rvr
[11:26] <ogra_> yes, that suonds indeed weird
[11:26] <rvr> ogra_: and now snap list lists nothing
[11:26] <ogra_> no error ?
[11:29] <rvr> ogra_: https://pastebin.canonical.com/168739/
[11:31] <rvr> Failed to get key ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE from interface wlan0
[11:33] <vigo> fgimenez, should we keep using your spread binary?
[11:35] <ogra_> rvr, i meant for snap list
[11:37] <fgimenez> vigo, spread's snap must work, if not you should talk with niemeyer
[11:37] <vigo> fgimenez, ok have you the link to the spread doc you shared last week?
[11:38] <vigo> I missed it
[11:39] <rvr> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23374088/
[11:43] <fgimenez> vigo, mm about spread? not sure which document is that, the best source for spread info is its readme https://github.com/snapcore/spread, i shared a doc about image creation, the reference for image creation is available here https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/snappy-docs/blob/master/core/images.md
[11:44] <vigo> fgimenez, thanks =)
[11:44] <ogra_> mvo_, so is " xzcat img-file | godd - /dev/sdX " the right syntax ? (the godd help is rather cryptic)
[11:50] <ogra_> (well, seems to have worked and not dd'ed over my harddisk ... :) )
[11:51] <ogra_> hmm
[11:51] <ogra_> [  OK  ] Reached target Login Prompts.
[11:51] <ogra_> [FAILED] Failed to start Generate default network config.
[11:51] <ogra_> See 'systemctl status snapd.generate-network-conf.service' for details.
[11:52] <ogra_> pitti, ^^^ i get this with the first boot of todays core image on dragonboard ...
[11:52] <ogra_> console-conf shows wlan0 fine though
[11:53] <ogra_> ... but times out when trying to configure wlan0
[11:54] <ogra_> rvr, are these the same symptoms you see ?
[11:54] <pitti> ogra_: is there something I need to fix on my end to make this work?
[11:56] <rvr> ogra_: Yes
[11:56] <rvr> ogra_: It times out when trying to configure the network, but if you reboot, those credentials will be used and the net interface will show the IP in console-conf.
[11:57] <ogra_> mvo_, that looks like some regression with network setup ... the dragonboard used to work last week
[11:58] <ogra_> yeah, no way to get networking at all on dragonboard :(
[11:58] <ogra_> thats really bad
[11:59] <ogra_> even after reboots or re-starting console-conf
[11:59] <vigo> fgimenez, still getting invalid error name with spread snap
[12:00] <ogra_> pitti, i wish i knew ... but snapd.generate-network-conf.service is netplan, no ?
[12:00] <pitti> ogra_: no
[12:00] <ogra_> rvr, it didnt keep my credentials
[12:00] <pitti> ogra_: snapd.* is snappy :)
[12:00] <ogra_> pfft ... names ... as if anyone would read them :P
[12:01] <ogra_> (sorry ... i could have guessed that)
[12:01] <pitti> hehe
[12:01] <pitti> ogra_: "nap" or "ystem", all the same
[12:02] <ogra_> haha
[12:02] <ogra_> yeah
[12:03]  * ogra_ tries a pi3 image
[12:05] <ogra_> doesnt find its wlan device at all :(((
[12:11] <popey> ogra_: was there a bodge I can do on my pi3 to get snap working again?
[12:11] <ogra_> popey, same as before ... fw_setenv to point to the right snap_core
[12:12] <ogra_> but thats only a temporary workaround, i fear long term you need to re-flash
[12:12] <popey> ok, will nuke it
[12:12] <ogra_> the channel switching bug is supposed to be fised though, so it should not happen again
[12:12] <popey> groovy
[12:12] <ogra_> *fixed
[12:13] <ogra_> hmm, so for me wifi times out on all devices in console-conf .... the pi3 finds its wifi device after reboot
[12:13] <ogra_> (but i still cant configure it)
[12:14]  * ogra_ checks what changed ... this used to work at some point
[12:14] <popey> which edge image would you recommend for pi3 today?
[12:14] <popey> :)
[12:14] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/all-snaps/daily/
[12:14] <ogra_> always "current" indeed :)
[12:14] <popey> kk
[12:16] <mvo_> ogra_: what is the error from "systemctl status snapd.generate-network-conf.service" ?
[12:16] <ogra_> mvo_,no idea, i cant get into the runn8ing os at that point
[12:16] <mvo_> ogra_: that is some new stuff that landed late (mostly morphis)
[12:17] <ogra_> that error shows up before the "press enter"
[12:17] <mvo_> ogra_: can you set "systemd.debug-shell" in the kernel commandline? or is that not possible with the dragonboard?
[12:17] <ogra_> and only on very first boot
[12:17] <mvo_> ogra_: this will give you a debug shell on tty7
[12:17] <ogra_> i'll try ... might be a bit tricky since i need to poke the uboot.env directly
[12:18] <ogra_> pi would be easier (cmdline is in a txt file) but that didnt expose the error
[12:18] <ogra_> i see that subiquity network handline had a ton of changes on thu as well
[12:18] <ogra_> from mwhudson
[12:33] <ogra_> Oct 24 09:37:21 localhost sh[2084]: message repeated 29 times: [ sed: can't read /run/systemd/netif/leases/*: No such file or directory]
[12:34] <ogra_> AHA !
[12:38] <ogra_> Oct 24 09:32:39 localhost systemd[1668]: /lib/systemd/system-generators/netplan failed with error code 1.
[12:38] <ogra_> hmm
[12:39] <Elleo> jdstrand: heya, any idea if there are snappy equivalents for @{APP_PKGNAME} and @{APP_ID_DBUS}, all I could find was ${SNAP_NAME} which I could sort of mangle into a pkgname
[12:41] <niemeyer> Hello all
[12:41] <niemeyer> morphis: ping
[12:43] <ogra_> Oct 24 12:32:25 localhost systemd[1]: Starting Network Service...
[12:43] <ogra_> Oct 24 12:32:25 localhost systemd-networkd[1483]: Could not load configuration files: Permission denied
[12:43] <ogra_> Oct 24 12:32:26 localhost systemd[1]: systemd-networkd.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
[12:43] <ogra_> Oct 24 12:32:26 localhost systemd[1]: Failed to start Network Service.
[12:43] <ogra_> aha
[12:56] <Son_Goku> niemeyer: good morning!
[13:01] <ogra_> mvo_, hmm, looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/290433383/ubuntu-core-config_0.6.40+ppa18_0.6.40+ppa19.diff.gz ... are you sure that "sync" is actually in $PATH everywhere ?
[13:02] <mvo_> ogra_: its in /bin
[13:03] <ogra_> i know
[13:03] <ogra_> i just see that all other lines in that script use a full path
[13:04] <ogra_> might not be relevant though ...
[13:06] <mvo_> ogra_: in a meeting right now, I have a look what the systemd default PATH is afterwards
[13:07] <ogra_> mvo_, well, its perhaps a red herring ...
[13:07] <ogra_> mvo_, on a sidenote ... godd works very nicely, promote it :)
[13:07] <mvo_> yay
[13:09] <ogra_> i have a slight suspicion ...
[13:09] <ogra_>  def main():
[13:09] <ogra_> +    os.umask(0o0077)
[13:09] <ogra_>      opts = parse_options(sys.argv[1:])
[13:10] <ogra_> that line in subiquity might make it impossible for systemd-networkd to read the configs
[13:21] <mvo_> ogra_: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html#Environment%20variables%20in%20spawned%20processes fwiw
[13:21] <mvo_> ogra_: autsch, thanks!
[13:21] <mvo_> ogra_: i.e. PATH should be fine
[13:21] <ogra_> yeah
[13:22] <ogra_> i guess its the permission change ... though i'm not sure the umask has any influence on netplan which should be the one to write the actual systemd configs
[13:22] <ogra_> heh, no, this is worse
[13:24] <ogra_> so i just configured a dragonboard with USB eth0 plugged in ... selected "do not use" for eth0 and properly configured wlan0 as default interface ....
[13:24] <ogra_> this is what i got on first login: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23374356/
[13:24] <ogra_> seems console-conf never actually applies the chosen network settings
[13:25] <ogra_> at least not without a reboot
[13:25] <mvo_> ogra_: this is edge?
[13:25] <ogra_> mvo_, yep
[13:25] <ogra_> todays daily
[13:26] <ogra_> the other thing is that /usr/lib/snapd/generate-network-conf only ever generates a setup for eth0
[13:27] <ogra_>  /usr/lib/snapd/generate-network-conf runs before console-conf comes up ... this is why it works fine when i boot the dragonboard with eth0 attached but causes issues when only wlan0 is there
[13:28] <ogra_> a...
[13:28] <ogra_> ...ha !
[13:28] <ogra_> sooo  ...
[13:29] <ogra_> running "sudo /usr/sbin/netplan apply" after first logging in gets me the actually picked network configuration from console-setup
[13:29] <ogra_> could it be that console-conf simply not calls "netplan apply"  ?
[13:40] <davmor2> ogra_, mvo_: is there a way to only list snap names when using snap find?
[13:41] <ogra_> like a --short option or so ?
[13:41] <ogra_> i dont think so
[13:42] <davmor2> ogra_: I wanted to write a script to install all the app for the letter e so snap find e however this will currently try and install everything for name version description and so on
[13:43] <davmor2> ogra_: I can cobble something together probably
[13:44] <ogra_> snap find e|cut -d' ' -f1|sed '/^Name$/d'
[13:44] <ogra_> something like that would be a quick hack
[13:55] <davmor2> ogra_: yeah I was thinking something similar to slice to get it
[13:55] <rvr> ogra_: Nice detective work :)
[13:56] <ogra_> rvr, well ... except that console-setup actually has code to run "netplan apply" ... not sure why it isnt executed though
[13:58] <davmor2> ogra_: that work beautifully thanks :)
[13:58] <ogra_> :)
[14:03] <ogra_> ok ... running console-setup once ... unplugging the SD ... checking that the netplan config is correct ... booting afresh *and* making sure to configure the wlan part again, makes it work then
[14:04] <ogra_> if i dont re-config the wlan settings, it will create an entry for the SSID without key
[14:05] <rvr> ogra_: The image is still not resized in the Dragonboard
[14:05] <ogra_> works fine here (and for everyone else)
[14:06] <ogra_> rvr, we really need to find whats different in your setup, but all people i have asked to check it had no issues the whole week
[14:07] <ogra_> so thats somehow specific to you ....
[14:11] <ogra_> rvr, can you try flashing the SD from a desktop machine instead of the macbook ? perhaps it is related to that
[14:12] <rvr> ogra_: I use a MacBook Pro as desktop instead of the Air as laptop, but same results :P
[14:14] <ogra_> well, only you can repro it ... however you write the SD could be related here ... are both your machines running xenial ?
[14:15] <rvr> Yup
[14:16] <ogra_> mvo_, heh ... with the piping into godd it seems like the progress bar gets kind of confused ... does it only show read progress by default ?
[14:16] <ogra_> (it seems to be very fast ... i.e. reading the input into ram)
[14:17] <ogra_> (and then it sits silent for 1min before it returns to the prompt and is done)
[14:17] <rvr> ogra_: On the Pi 2, it was resized correctly
[14:18] <ogra_> interesting ... same SD ?
[14:18] <rvr> Right
[14:18] <ogra_> wow
[14:18] <mvo_> ogra_: yeah, I need to fix the progress, it stats the "file" stdin and gets "0" so the progress looks quick, it really needs to do a spinner in this case
[14:18] <ogra_> yep
[14:20] <ogra_> hmpf ... rebooting the pi3 before console-setup is done gets me a hanging boot :/
[14:21]  * ogra_ tries for the third time
[14:53] <josharenson> What are some reasons that snapcraft register might fail?
[14:53] <ogra_> the name could be taken already
[14:54] <josharenson> ogra_: I
[14:54] <josharenson> ogra_: I've tried several unique names...
[14:57] <rickl_> Hello
[14:59] <didrocks> josharenson: you are logged in, correct?
[14:59] <didrocks> hey rickl_
[14:59] <josharenson> didrocks: yes
[15:00] <josharenson> didrocks: even tried that twice
[15:00] <didrocks> what's the exact message? (can you try as well with --debug?)
[15:01] <josharenson> didrocks: sure 1 moment
[15:01] <rickl_> Does someone knows an Ubuntu Snappy webserver package?
[15:02] <didrocks> rickl_: you have multiple examples embedding webservers as part of a bigger app
[15:02] <josharenson> didrocks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23374723/
[15:03] <rharper> is there a reason why the core and pc snap are in the -rc image twice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23374721/   got this from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/xenial/daily-preinstalled/current/
[15:03] <josharenson> rickl_: I've used the one built into go, but that might not suit your needs
[15:03] <ogra_> rharper, so that you can roll back
[15:04] <rharper> ogra_: gotcha, cool
[15:04] <ogra_> rharper, (admittely, after a fresh install you can only roll back to the same version :) )
[15:04] <didrocks> josharenson: you are getting a forbidden 403, which may sounds like your credentials aren't recognized. Maybe when you tried to login again, you didn't logout in between? try: snapcraft logout && snapcraft login again to generated new macaroons (creds cache)
[15:04] <rharper> the fresh install could possible not include those then ?
[15:04] <ogra_> it includes them once and copies them on first boot afaik
[15:04] <rickl_> I just need a small webpage with a shutdown button haha
[15:05] <ogra_> mvo_ could explain that in detail i think
[15:05] <rharper> ogra_: that's the image mounted up
[15:05] <ogra_> ah, then ubuntu-image is already clever and does that
[15:05] <rharper> I downloaded it, unxz, kpartx  the image file and then mount up partition3
[15:05] <josharenson> didrocks: I'll try logging out, maybe even a few times.. I also filed lp:1636023 last night hoping that the error message can be more helpful :-)
[15:06] <mvo_> rharper: we should hardlink those on the actual system, its on the list of things to fix but iirc its not done yet
[15:06] <didrocks> josharenson: agreed, it should be more helpful :)
[15:06] <rharper> mvo_: ok
[15:07] <josharenson> didrocks: I get the same error :-/
[15:07] <didrocks> josharenson: hum, we need to wait for the store team (like nessita) to be online I guess then…
[15:07] <didrocks> unsure why you get a permission error
[15:07] <josharenson> didrocks: ok, no worries
[15:08] <mvo_> rharper: is it a big concern for you?
[15:08] <didrocks> (added more info on your bug btw)
[15:09] <rharper> mvo_: no; just looked odd to me because I didn't know why both were there
[15:09] <rharper> mvo_: that and it seems like it could save some downloading
[15:10] <xnox> mvo_, is it normal that $PATH is weird for sudo?
[15:10] <xnox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23374747/
[15:10] <josharenson> didrocks: I think I got it... Since it was my first snap, I had never created a developer namespace. Registering my snap through the webUI asked me for a developer namespace, and then successfully registered my snap name
[15:10] <ogra_> xnox, hmm, that was fixced in our sudo package a while ago
[15:10] <rbnswartz> Is there anyway that I can allow a snap to access a drive besides using dev mode?
[15:10] <xnox> ogra_, in xenial?
[15:11] <ogra_> yeah
[15:11] <xnox> ogra_, all packages are up to date for me :-(
[15:11] <ogra_> xnox, check secure_path in /etc/sudoers
[15:12] <didrocks> josharenson: oh, interesting, mind adding that to your bug report?
[15:12] <ogra_> it should contain /snap/bin by default
[15:12] <josharenson> didrocks: sure
[15:12] <didrocks> josharenson: we want to have the whole workflow working from snapcraft only
[15:12] <xnox> ogra_, does not have shnaps
[15:12] <ogra_> xnox, hmm, i wonder if ucf got in your way here ... did you ever edit sudoers ?
[15:13] <ogra_> (instead of using sudoers.d snippets)
[15:13] <xnox> ogra_, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:13] <kissiel_> ogra_: hey! do you know where I could find images for rpi3 that are proven to work?
[15:13] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/devel/packages/subiquity-0.0.20~xenial$ sudo grep secure_path /etc/sudoers
[15:13] <ogra_> Defaults	secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin"
[15:13] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/devel/packages/subiquity-0.0.20~xenial$
[15:13] <xnox> ogra_, i'll reinstall and will force configuration file reinstallation and see what happens.
[15:14] <ogra_> kissiel_, if you can get along without wifi http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/all-snaps/daily/ has daily builds
[15:14] <kissiel_> ogra_: definitely, thanks!
[15:16] <ogra_> pitti, hmm, do you have much insight in how /var/lib/systemd/rfkill functions ? i have the feeling the missing file for the wlan device causes me to get no wifi offered on first boot (the file exists on second boot and i can see wlan0 on pi and dragoboard)
[15:19] <cmars> hi, is there a guide on how to set up a CI build to automatically push to an edge channel for my snap?
[15:20] <ogra_> cmars, you can tell launchpad to create your snap ... it has features to auto-submit to the store
[15:22] <cmars> ogra_, it sources from github repos though.. is there a way i can delegate authority to a jenkins bot account to be able to push my snaps?
[15:28] <xnox> ogra_, $ sudo apt -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask" install --reinstall sudo
[15:28] <xnox> ogra_, fixed the world for me, I had an extra whitespace line in my sudoers.
[15:28] <ogra_> oh my
[15:54] <josharenson> Successfully published my first snap (hooray!). How long until it shows up via `snap find` (or is installable via the snap name)
[15:55] <ogra_> should be pretty immediate after you clicked the publish button
[15:56] <josharenson> humm let me double check that it actually published..
[16:03] <josharenson> ogra_: not to be stupid, but all channels are searched by default?
[16:03] <ogra_> only stable
[16:03] <josharenson> ogra_: ah
[16:04] <ogra_> snap install can take --edge/--beta etc ...
[16:04] <ogra_> but find can not
[16:11] <niemeyer> morphis: ping
[16:18] <mup> PR snapd#2206 closed: docs: less details about cloud.cfg <Created by mvo5> <Merged by niemeyer> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2206>
[16:51] <niemeyer> joc_: ping
[17:31] <mup> Bug #1636260 opened: make snappy executable on macOS <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1636260>
[18:22] <mmphosis> help
[18:25] <mmphosis> anyone here?
[18:45] <dasjoe> niemeyer, asac: I sent an email a few days ago to snapcraft-owner@, about how lists.snapcraft.io breaks dmarc for some users
[18:59] <pitti> ogra_: I don't know/remember details, but AFAIR this just saves/restores the rfkill state on shutdown/boot -- so if it's not there at all, the state shouldn't be changed; is it blocked in 'sudo rfkill list'?
[19:35] <Croepha> you guys ever get a message from snap like "cannot set next boot: cannot determine bootloader" ?
[23:32] <perrito666> nite all, coulkd anyone give me a hand with this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/290730459/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_yakkety_i386_caddy_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:32] <perrito666> I have no clue why its pulling a ppa for snappy