[12:12] <mzanetti> dandrader, hey, now that we have a way to repro the landscape lockscreen, please look into fixing that rather sooner than later
[12:14] <dandrader> ok
[12:35] <dandrader> mzanetti, thankfully I can easily reproduce it in "make tryOrientedShell"
[12:35] <mzanetti> oh ok :)
[12:39] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ping-ie regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/tutorial-launcher-gap/+merge/263687 ?
[12:40] <dandrader> tsdgeos, not working on it
[12:41] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I mean, It's not high in my priority list
[12:41] <tsdgeos> ok
[12:41] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I actually took it over from mterry, wouldn't mind handing it over to someone else
[12:42] <tsdgeos> dandrader: you only have to fix the test failing and i told you how to fix it
[12:42] <tsdgeos> i'd very much appreciate if you could fix it
[12:42] <tsdgeos> so i can approve it
[12:43] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I could just absorb your patch
[12:45] <tsdgeos> dandrader: that'd be nice
[12:45] <dandrader> tsdgeos, done
[12:47] <dandrader> mzanetti, dang it. now it doesn't happen anymore. :/
[12:47] <mzanetti> you fixed it?
[12:47] <mzanetti> :D
[12:47] <dandrader> mzanetti, added debug prints :)
[12:47] <mzanetti> aw man :D
[12:48] <mzanetti> dandrader, so the way I can repro is by going landscape, open the spread and press the power button
[12:48] <mzanetti> not sure if that's what you've been doing
[12:48] <dandrader> mzanetti, yes, but in "make tryOrientedShell
[12:49] <dandrader> mzanetti, do you have 100% success to reproduce the bug doing this on the phone?
[12:49] <mzanetti> so far a 1 out of 1 :D
[12:50] <mzanetti> let me try a few more times :D
[12:50] <tsdgeos> dandrader: 5 out of 5 here
[12:50] <dandrader> couldn't get on my mako (which I just flashed with vivid+overlay) yet
[12:50] <mzanetti> 2 out of 2
[12:50] <dandrader> mzanetti, tsdgeos, ah, forgot to leave the spread open!
[12:50] <mzanetti> yeah, 100% here
[12:50] <mzanetti> ack
[12:51] <tsdgeos> yeah well it's on the steps :D
[12:51] <dandrader> what a relief, it's happening again :)
[12:52] <tsdgeos> dandrader: mzanetti: i don't have a Nexus7, but will the fix for the phone fix the Nexus7 too or not because it's always in landscape there?
[12:52] <dandrader> tsdgeos, I think so
[12:52] <mzanetti> I'm not sure
[12:53] <mzanetti> I can tests the N7 with the fix
[12:53] <mzanetti> however, phone is definitely the critical part
[14:12] <tsdgeos> dednick: ping
[14:13] <dednick> tsdgeos: wassup?
[14:13] <tsdgeos> unity8-dash crashing with your inline video preview stuff
[14:13] <tsdgeos> is that what you mentioned jim has to fix?
[14:14] <dednick> tsdgeos: silo19. i'm supposed to be testing today. havnt got around to it just yet.
[14:15] <tsdgeos> but that speaks about black stuff
[14:15] <tsdgeos> not about crashes?
[14:15] <dednick> tsdgeos: yeah, i am told it also contains another fix for a crash. jhodapp ^?
[14:16] <tsdgeos> dednick: am i supposed to be able to inline preview youtube videos?
[14:16] <jhodapp> dednick, yeah, fixes the crash for playback of a second video
[14:16] <dednick> tsdgeos: um. if the format it supported it should
[14:17] <tsdgeos> i have the spinner forever
[14:17] <dednick> tsdgeos: does it play with the current image player?
[14:18] <tsdgeos> dednick: currently opens the browser i think, i have to check
[14:18] <dednick> hm
[14:19] <dednick> tsdgeos: i'll have to check it out
[14:19] <tsdgeos> dednick: i'm just gpoing to reflash to check whaat it does now
[14:20] <tsdgeos> dednick: there's also a weird layouting effect, i'll upload a screenie
[14:21] <tsdgeos> dednick: https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/inline-dash-videos/+merge/260251/comments/662705
[14:22] <dednick> tsdgeos: sounds about right. will take a look
[14:43] <tsdgeos> dednick: yeah with current code it launches youtube on the browser
[14:43] <tsdgeos> maybe the spinner is because you're feeding the youtube webpage url to the player?
[14:45] <dednick> tsdgeos: probably
[14:50] <dednick> hm. wonder how we're supposed to handle that.
[14:53] <tsdgeos> dednick: as far as i understood when speaking with pete-woods
[14:53] <tsdgeos> you can't just preview youtube stuff out of youtube
[14:53] <tsdgeos> so i guess in that case there's just no inline playback
[14:53] <tsdgeos> greyback: any idea what would cause https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210512430/screenshot20150702_025925690.png ? it's from bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediaplayer-app/+bug/1470780
[14:53] <pete-woods> dednick, tsdgeos: it's against the T&Cs
[14:54] <pete-woods> you're not supposed to rip out the video stream
[14:54] <pete-woods> and the same applies to all the other video hosting sites I saw, e.g. Vimeo
[14:55] <greyback> tsdgeos: very odd. The OSK looks after its own position (it gets a fullscreen surface, draws where it wants to), and tells unity8 whether to show it at all. It getting stuck maybe??
[14:57] <tsdgeos> greyback: it is stuck yes
[14:57] <tsdgeos> greyback: after you get it to that position
[14:57] <tsdgeos> you can't get it up or down anymore
[14:58] <greyback> tsdgeos: I'd first suspect the OSK process is blocked somehow
[15:00] <tsdgeos> greyback: who's our OSK guy?
[15:03] <dandrader> tsdgeos, Elleo
[15:17] <dednick> hm. i guess we should handle http sources differently then.
[15:19] <dandrader> josharenson, I think this bug falls into your area: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1467473
[15:19] <dandrader> josharenson, http://i.imgur.com/vXcgf4V.jpg
[15:19] <dandrader> josharenson, it's like the lockscreen needs a landscape design
[15:25] <tsdgeos> dednick: that or either have a flag somewhere in the preview data saying if that url is preview-eable
[15:25] <dednick> tsdgeos: probably a better idea.
[15:25] <tsdgeos> dednick: but not sure we have any http url that is preview-able, so for the first iteration may as well make all the http ones just do what they used to
[15:26] <tsdgeos> depends how "urgent" this is
[15:27] <dednick> damn. just got rid of the old preview widget!
[15:28] <tsdgeos> ouch!
[15:31] <josharenson> dandrader: ack, I'll look into that today. I'm assuming https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/fixOrientedShellTests doesn't fix it? (It look like that branch landed recently)
[15:31] <dandrader> josharenson, I don't know
[15:32] <josharenson> dandrader: I'll give it all a try in a bit
[16:02] <dandrader> mzanetti, a new warning when running make tryOrientedShell: qml/OrientedShell.qml:73: Error: Cannot assign to non-existent property "disableHeight"
[16:03] <mzanetti> hmpf


[00:09] <rww> G'day. meoblast001 is ban-evading the following (rather old) ban on #ubuntu-offtopic:
[00:09] <rww> 1608 -!- 107 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[by barjavel.freenode.net, 3667744 secs ago]
[00:10] <rww> it's been long enough that he could do with a second chance in my opinion, but I figure you'd want to talk to him and unban him first :)
[00:25]  * rww throws a tumbleweed at funkyHat and tonyyarusso
[00:26]  * funkyHat is now trapped in a tumbleweed
[00:39]  * tonyyarusso has a machete
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> @login
[00:41] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: poke, looks like it's yours
[03:45] <elky> l0de removed from #u for suggesting people be gassed
[03:45] <elky> now i'm getting PMs
[03:47] <elky> scrolling up, he should have been removed long ago. rude sod.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> the_true_justice in #ubuntu
[05:07] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: problem with trolls is they leave before we can make them
[05:07] <IdleOne> well the less annoying trolls that is
[05:08] <elky> that's when you mark them in the tracker
[05:08] <IdleOne> elky: how with I search for a @mark? @bansearch?
[05:08] <elky> @mark
[05:08] <IdleOne> s/with/would
[05:09] <maco> wait we can do searchies without opening the web browser? O_O
[05:09] <elky> you can do it in PM too
[05:09] <elky> maco, sometimes
[05:09] <IdleOne> maco: @bansearch yes
[05:10] <elky> don't assume an empty response is a test negative
[05:10] <IdleOne> so the @mark gets entered as a kick and therefor searchable in the same way?
[05:10] <elky> IdleOne, kindof. it's entered as mark afaik
[05:11] <IdleOne> well I am asking how to search for @mark so I can see if a user has been marked and so that i don't repeat the info
[05:11] <elky> IdleOne, ask the people who wrote it i guess. I use the pointy clicky site
[05:12] <IdleOne> :)
[05:12] <IdleOne> pointy clicky rocks
[05:12] <elky> yep, especially if your brain is a "needs context right now" kind
[05:14] <IdleOne> ok I marked the_true_justice for spam
[05:15] <IdleOne> and yup @bansearch returns marks with id #
[08:36] <bazhang> sean_, not an auspicious start
 hey there noobs
[08:37] <sean_> oh forgot
[08:37] <bazhang> that was why you were banned in the first place, that, and saying 'haha owned' to people with problems in #ubuntu
[08:38] <sean_> oh yeah
[08:39] <sean_> soo unban?
[08:39] <bazhang> sean_, you immediately do what you were banned for on entering #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <sean_> yeah ... forgot...
[08:40] <sean_> read the rules tho
[08:40] <bazhang> it seems you are not ready to rejoin #ubuntu
[08:40] <sean_> nooo
[08:40] <sean_> one more chance?
[08:42] <sean_> one more chance pls?
[08:43] <bazhang> sean_, not confident you won't immediately continue the same behaviour
[08:43] <sean_> helloo
[08:43] <sean_> u can keep watch?
[08:47] <sean_> helooo
[08:48] <sean_> just one chance and u can keep watch?
[08:49] <Tm_T> sean_: I think bazhang said no
[08:49] <sean_> oh hey
[08:49] <sean_> could u reconsider pls
[08:49] <Tm_T> sorry, not at this time
[08:56] <elky> sean_, come back in a day or two. Until then, there's ubuntuforums.org
[08:59] <sean_> alright thanks
[14:33] <Pici> meh.
[16:18] <MenZa> Pici: mooh.
[21:12] <Amaranth> *cricket*
[21:47] <Guest3966> hey guys can someone help me get unbanned from ubuntu
[22:49] <Guest75985> hi
[23:27] <IdleOne> evening


[01:23] <rick_h_> ok, this is kind of cool https://developers.google.com/glass/quickstart/python
[01:25] <brousch> It's a GAE webapp
[01:26] <rick_h_> yea, cool selling point for GAE to be able to bootstrap your communication with he glass api
[01:27] <brousch> I think it's required
[01:27] <rick_h_> no, you just have to setup your oath2 and such yourself. You have to talk to the glass api, but you don't have to be on GAE
[01:28] <brousch> And the API console
[01:34] <brousch> Seems too locked-in to Google for me
[01:36] <brousch> No ads. No charging for the apps
[01:52] <rick_h_> brousch: but you can charge for your service
[01:52] <rick_h_> to get the time news you have to pay for the times new
[01:52] <rick_h_> evernote, etc
[01:56] <brousch> hm
[02:34] <mathomastech> Check out my review of the aftershokz bone conducting headphones. They are really something awesome! https://plus.google.com/u/0/103260909450809151378/posts/TqnvXYzk8Ee
[02:50] <rick_h_> mathomastech: cool, I'll have to get a pair for biking this summer. Do hate the earbuds while biking and seems like a great way around it.
[02:51] <rick_h_> booo for them not being on amazon
[02:56] <mathomastech> rick_h_ They just became available on their website again. I think their lack of amazon support is more due to supply issues.
[02:57] <rick_h_> mathomastech: ah, good to know
[02:58] <mathomastech> rick_h_ I think amazon has their other models on sale. Makes sense they will get the bluez as well at some point
[02:58] <rick_h_> yea
[02:59] <rick_h_> all good, I just ended up ordering a new google hangouts headset so should wait a bit anyway :)
[02:59] <mathomastech> Google Hangouts headset?
[02:59] <rick_h_> yea, I have daily google hangouts, multiple really
[02:59] <rick_h_> and want a portable headset when I'm at the coffee shop and such
[02:59] <rick_h_> at my desk I've got my podcast mic and such
[03:00] <mathomastech> Is it branded for hangouts, or just a headset to use for hangouts?
[03:00] <rick_h_> just for conference calls
[03:00] <rick_h_> the trouble with hangouts is that on mobile devices they won't work with BT headsets for some reason
[03:00] <rick_h_> so maybe I should say "wired conference headset"
[03:00] <mathomastech> Yea I have noticed that. The Bluez dont work with mobile hangouts either :(
[03:01] <rick_h_> yea, my current BT headsets fail. Just something with hangouts that drives me bonkers
[03:03] <mathomastech> Well, I will bring my Bluez to CHC tomorrow. Your welcome to try them out if you'd like.
[14:25] <rick_h_> starbucks fail. Verizon signal here is too weak. Must be that cursed ATT store next door blocking my air waves :P
[14:25] <brousch> Use their wifi
[14:25] <rick_h_> yea, fail there as well.  Can't say that for landscape.
[20:54] <greg-g> btw, to answer re RH:
[20:54] <greg-g> 16:53 < Ryan_Lane> he never mentioned red hat by name
[20:54] <greg-g> 16:53 < Ryan_Lane> but it was really obvious who he was talking about
[20:54] <greg-g> 16:53 < Ryan_Lane> cost was one of those things
[20:54] <greg-g> 16:54 <    greg-g> huh
[20:54] <greg-g> 16:54 < Ryan_Lane> some things about commitment too
[20:55] <greg-g> 16:54 < Ryan_Lane> which is funny because red hat was one of the largest contributors
[20:57] <greg-g> hahaha
[20:57] <greg-g> 16:56 < Ryan_Lane> he somehow decided that ubuntu mobile was worth talking about too
[20:57] <greg-g> oh mark
[20:59] <greg-g> to not selectively censor Ryan:
[20:59] <greg-g> 16:58 < Ryan_Lane> it wasn't a really bad talk over all, and the red hat bashing was pretty non-direct, though
[20:59] <greg-g> ok, done copy/pasting/bombing the channel
[21:06] <jrwren> i'm finally groking some python packaging :)
[22:54] <derekv> do we have the room tonight?
[23:12] <snap-l> derekv: I believe so
[23:52] <rick_h_> party
[23:52] <rick_h_> in the room


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[02:32] <michi> robru: ping
[02:33] <robru> michi: pong
[02:33] <michi> With the new requests page, how to I abandon (completely remove) a silo?
[02:33] <robru> michi: is the silo assigned?
[02:33] <michi> Yes, silo 10
[02:33] <robru> michi: click 'Merge & Clean' and then check ONLY_FREE_SILO
[02:34] <michi> OK, cool, thanks. Might be good to update the doc page. It still talks about the “Abandon” link
[02:34] <robru> michi: where? I went through and updated the docs recently
[02:34] <michi> Under “Abandon a landing” on the LandingProcess page
[02:35] <robru> michi: lol, the answer to your question was right there
[02:36] <michi> “The CI Train REquests page has alink on each landing request called ‘Abandon’"
[02:36] <michi> I don’t think that link still exists?
[02:36] <michi> Or am I blind?
[02:36] <robru> michi: reload the page or something? you must be seeing something cached since last week
[02:36] <michi> Ah
[02:36] <michi> Yes, that’s what’s happened.
[02:36] <michi> Sorry for the noise.
[02:36] <robru> michi: no worries
[02:43] <michi__> robru: Not sure what to do with this one: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/prepare-silo/6018/console
[02:44] <robru> michi__: your request contains a branch, you need a merge.
[02:44] <michi__> Aargh, wrong URL.
[02:44] <michi__> Any chance of getting a more informative error message there?
[02:44] <robru> michi__: also please file a bug against lp:cupstream2distro asking to make that error more understandable and assign it to me
[02:44] <michi__> :)
[02:44] <robru> michi__: can do, just have other priorities.
[02:45] <michi__> About to create the bug, NP!
[03:05] <robru> infinity: cjwatson: anybody around? I need help testing some train changes you'll like
[04:09] <robru> "CI Airline will be ready ~July 2014"
[04:09] <robru> kek
[06:22] <infinity> robru: Not really, no.  Heading to bed.
[06:22] <infinity> robru: Also, that was hours ago, so I assume you're not around either. :P
[06:23] <robru> infinity: just watching tv. I sent an email with details
[07:00] <Mirv> infinity: still around? there'd be new binary packages at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-024/+sourcepub/5314531/+listing-archive-extra - indicator-transfer-download-manager, libindicator-transfer-dev, libindicator-transfer0
[07:01] <Mirv> probably not as heading to bed 40mins ago. any other archive admin around?
[07:04] <Mirv> hmm, maybe RAOF or pitti could be awake?
[07:04] <RAOF>  I could be.
[07:04] <RAOF> But new binary packages aren't my thing; no AA hat here.
[07:05] <Mirv> RAOF: oh, would there be a better list to use than https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members ?
[07:05] <pitti> what about these?
[07:05] <Mirv> pitti: train bypasses binary NEW queue, so we need preNEW review
[07:05] <RAOF> Mirv: Sadly, no. I'm there because I need a subset of those powers for SRU work.
[07:05] <Mirv> RAOF: ah, ok, that explains it
[07:09] <pitti> it could really do with a symbols file
[07:12] <pitti> Mirv: looks okay otherwise, but please add .symbols for tracking API
[07:12] <Mirv> I'll file bugs about all comments and if they're a blocker, set it as critical priority
[07:12] <Mirv> pitti: ok. a blocker or not blocker?
[07:12] <pitti> not a blocker
[07:12] <Mirv> ok.
[07:14] <Mirv> thank you, I filed a bug about it for the next release.
[07:16] <pitti> cheers
[12:46] <doko> currently not accepting new binary library packages ...
[12:54] <cjwatson> doko: Why not?  I would normally wave through mosquitto and sdformat
[12:57] <doko> cjwatson, ok, only one binNMU needed
[15:23] <slangasek> arges: will fix lsvpd and reupload today, thanks.  fwiw procedurally, I recommend that when an SRU is rejected for cosmetic/mechanical issues that the SRU team member fix/reupload/accept
[15:24] <infinity> I certainly do that sometimes, depends on if I'm using the queue as a teaching tool, as well.
[15:25] <infinity> And, clearly, slangasek needs tutoring on packaging.
[15:25] <arges> slangasek: good point, I wasn't sure there needed to still be separation between uploading and accepting, but in the future for minor stuff like this I'll fix it
[15:26] <infinity> arges: IMO, if the issue you find is minor and, in your mind, 100% unlikely to be contested by the uploader, just fix and reupload.
[15:26] <infinity> arges: Things like version numbers or bug ref typos fit that, for instance.
[15:27] <infinity> arges: If it's a question of "I don't like how you fixed this bug", then a round-trip is saner.
[15:27] <arges> infinity: Makes sense. and obviously the teaching bit is moot for steve
[15:33] <cyphermox> arges: ^ if you feel like reviewing more SRUs. :)
[15:33] <arges> cyphermox: i'll catch that later... gotta head out for a bit
[15:34] <cyphermox> sure
[15:34] <cyphermox> I'm about to head out to get lunch, too
[16:01] <slangasek> infinity, arges: 'sright, I'm a manager and therefore unteachable ;P
[16:05] <infinity> slangasek: See, I was avoiding making that joke.
[17:37] <robru> cjwatson: do you know if there's been any changes to launchpad/the archive lately that would affect the way the train publishes NEW packages? I had thought there was some long standing issue that the train somehow bypassed the NEW queue but there's been a couple silos I've seen recently that went into NEW and I have no idea why. I sure haven't changed
[17:37] <robru> anything train-side regarding publishing NEW packages.
[17:42] <coreycb> arges, could I get you or another sru team member to review some openstack-related uploads when you get a chance?
[17:42] <arges> coreycb: i can handle it
[17:43] <coreycb> arges, great, thanks.  for trusty: software-properties, cinder, python-keystoneclient.  and for vivid: python-keystoneclient
[18:14] <bregma> is there a formal process for getting my NEW package (currently in the queue) accepted or is it now a matter a matter of patiently waiting for someone with the right rights to get around to it?
[18:19] <infinity> bregma: The latter.  Which package?
[18:21] <infinity> bregma: Ahh, libertine?
[18:21] <bregma> infinity, yes, sorry, I'm a slow typer
[18:22] <bregma> we're really targeting the vivid overlay for the phone, but want to avoid breaking anything on upgrades later
[18:23] <infinity> bregma: I'm unconvinced that backdooring the NEW process with the overlay is a sane workflow, but...
[18:24] <bregma> it's not in the overlay until it's in WIly first, and we'll be doing dual landings
[18:24] <bregma> that's why I want it in Wily
[18:24] <infinity> Okay, if it's not allowed in the overlay until it's in wily, then I retract my backdoor comment.
[18:25] <infinity> bregma: I'm grabbing it to see if it looks like an easy review.  If it is, I'll knock it out, if it's not it might wait a bit, as I'm pretty busy right now.
[18:25] <bregma> sure, thanks
[18:26] <infinity> bregma: You missed a chance for silly naming here.  I'm disappointed.
[18:26] <infinity> Assuming you're upstream, I'm still downloading. :P
[18:26] <bregma> believe me, we discussed silly names
[18:26] <infinity> Heh.
[18:27] <bregma> there was a ted involved
[18:27] <infinity> See, you could either be -lertine, thus libertine.so, or go the iberty route with -libertine and ibertine.so
[18:27] <infinity> liblibertine is so boring. ;)
[18:28] <bregma> hmmm, -latrine ....  I need a new project
[18:30] <infinity> bregma: PasswordHelper{.h,.cpp} are missing copyright headers, FWIW.
[18:31] <infinity> (Not a blocker, since the project as a whole has an obvious license, but you might want to fix upstream)
[18:34] <infinity> bregma: Also not a blocker, but line-wrapping in Description fields doesn't work the way you think it does.
[18:35] <infinity> bregma: The first line (up to the first \n) is the short description, the rest is the long description, so where you've wrapped a too-long short, you've dumped the end of it into the beginning of the long.
[18:35]  * bregma kicks wrap-and-sort to see if it's still working
[18:36] <infinity> bregma: Even weirder, liblibertine1 starts the long description with a blank line. :)
[18:36] <infinity> Ditto for a few of them, actually.
[18:37] <infinity> That might get filtered out, but it's still silly regardless.
[18:37] <infinity> bregma: The only one that makes sense is libertine.  Short on 1 line, no blank '.' starting the long.
[18:38] <bregma> yeah, that's a bad habit I picked up years ago, adding the blank line
[18:38] <infinity> bregma: You probably want to fix the rest.  The wrapping issue in tools could be sorted by just s/command-line //
[18:42] <infinity> bregma: My only other complaint would be that /usr/bin/dbus-session-bridge is a super generic and namespace-pollutey name for a binary not shipped by dbus.
[18:43] <infinity> bregma: I might ask you to fix that one (or argue why it's a good idea) before you go writing other things that depend on that path.
[18:44] <bregma> well, it's a replacement for the D-Bus stuff inside our little container so the actual name doesn't matter (just the socket passed at runtime)
[18:45] <infinity> bregma: Right, so libertine-session-bridge or something might be more appropriate.
[18:45] <bregma> we can certainly change it, but wit the next upload if possible
[18:46] <infinity> bregma: I'd prefer to see it changed before I accept (or at least see a commit upstream), since I know how well everyone (me included) delivers on IOUs once the ACCEPT happens. :P
[18:46] <bregma> heh
[18:47] <infinity> bregma: Fix the descriptions in VCS and, more importantly, that generic binary path, and I'm happy.
[18:47] <infinity> bregma: Point me at both, or just shove a new upload in the silo, and we're good to go.
[18:47] <infinity> (The new upload would be nicer)
[18:48] <bregma> we'll want to go the new upload route
[18:48] <bregma> OK, thanks for the review
[18:48] <arges> coreycb: software-properties, the .5 upload you have, does that fix the issues with the current .4 version in proposed?
[18:48] <arges> coreycb: bug 1381050 is verification failed
[18:48] <coreycb> arges, ah, yes I think I based off of that
[18:48] <infinity> bregma: Other than the nitpicks, though, nice clean packaging, so yay for that.
[18:49] <infinity> bregma: And kudos on the insanely simple public interface for the library.  I was questioning the -dev having a single .h until I read it.
[18:49] <arges> coreycb: perhaps we can pick up that change too since it looks like there was a MP with a fix for that
[18:50] <coreycb> arges, ok do I just need to include the bug # for that in the most recent changelog?
[18:50] <infinity> bregma: I'll reject that so no one else is tempted to re-review.  As soon as a fresh upload hits the silo, ping me directly, and I'll check the diff and give you a thumbs-up.
[18:51] <bregma> infinity, thanks
[18:52] <coreycb> arges, ah... verification-failed on that one..
[19:02] <coreycb> bdmurray, I have a trusty sru for software-properties that I based off the version in -proposed.  do you know what the state of the -proposed version is?
[19:05] <bdmurray> coreycb: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html one of the bugs failed to verify
[19:06] <coreycb> bdmurray, how would you recommend I go about my sru?
[19:12] <bdmurray> slangasek: coreycb wants to SRU software-properties for Trusty and the previous SRU has a v-done and v-failed bug. I'd suggest just dropping the v-failed change and adding his fix. Does that seem reasonable?
[19:16] <infinity> bdmurray: Either fix the v-failed bug, or back it out, yeah.
[19:18] <bdmurray> infinity: okay, thanks
[19:18] <bdmurray> coreycb: are you in a hurry? I'm looking at the v-failed bug but not making much progress
[19:19] <coreycb> bdmurray, yeah I think we should probably get it in.  it enables the cloud archive shortcut for add-apt-repository for liberty.
[19:19] <coreycb> we need to start cranking on testing, and the charms need it
[19:22] <bdmurray> coreycb: okay the parts to remove are the changelog entry for fix importing keys and readd the lines removed from "def add_key(" https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210981282/software-properties_<IP_ADDRESS>_<IP_ADDRESS>.diff.gz
[19:23] <coreycb> bdmurray, ok, so just to verify.  I assume I need to revert <IP_ADDRESS> changes as part of my <IP_ADDRESS> version.  sound right?
[19:24] <coreycb> rather than just upload a new <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:27] <bdmurray> coreycb: yes, I'd be happy to review it (or sponsor it).
[19:27] <coreycb> bdmurray, thanks
[19:37] <coreycb> bdmurray, would you mind rejecting software-properties from the trusty review queue?
[19:54] <coreycb> bdmurray, thanks.  I uploaded a new one if you could review when you get a chance.
[20:25] <infinity> bregma: Diff in the PPA looks good to me.  Except for this (which I don't need another upload for, obviously):
[20:25] <infinity> + and other software interacting wit hthe Libertine container, such as scopes
[20:26] <infinity> bregma: ^-- Yay, typo. ;)
[20:26] <bregma> I feel I should boycott the word "the" it is my greatest nemesis
[20:26] <infinity> Hahaha.
[20:26] <infinity> bregma: Add "with" to the list.  Really, I think it's the spacebar that hates you.
[20:27] <bregma> grep -sr 'teh' *
[20:27] <infinity> bregma: Anyhow, publish away when the train is done choo-chooing or whatever.
[20:27] <infinity> bregma: I'll re-review in the queueue for sanity, but all looks good to me.
[20:28] <bregma> infinity, yes, it needs a wizzard to ack it before it uploads to the queue
[20:28] <infinity> Wow, how did my queue get an extra ue?
[20:28] <infinity> I guess my fingers got excited.
[20:29] <infinity> queueueueue!
[20:31] <bregma> teh queueueue
[20:34] <infinity> robru: bregma's silo is ready (27)
[20:35] <robru> infinity: yeah I tried publishing it but apparently launchpadlib's checkUpload is horribly broken in python3, can you manually copy the package from the PPA for now? I'm working on a workaround
[20:35] <infinity> Erm, yeah, can do.
[20:36] <robru> infinity: thanks
[20:38] <infinity> robru: Done (for ubuntu/wily, I'll leave the overlay bit to you to sort out after I let this through NEW)
[20:38] <robru> infinity: oh right, thanks
[20:43] <infinity> bregma: ^--- Accepted, thanks for indulging my nitpicking.
[20:43] <bregma> pleased to receive constructive criticism
[22:15] <cjwatson> robru: Copies bypass binary NEW due to an LP bug, but not source NEW.  This hasn't changed in quite some time.
[22:31] <slangasek> bdmurray: yes, seems reasonable to me to back out the change to bug #1381050 for software-properties
[22:33] <robru> cjwatson: ah, I forgot binary NEW is different than source NEW
[22:34] <cjwatson> This is https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/993120, for which I once had half a fix but it's been overtaken by events and needs to be reworked
[23:42] <robru> cjwatson: you may enjoy: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-staging-area/+archive/ubuntu/landing-000/+sourcepub/5366429/+listing-archive-extra
[23:44] <robru> (scroll down a bit)


[09:24] <hrw> does someone here uses pandaboard with natty?
[09:56] <ogra> only natty chroot
[09:57] <hrw> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/5183679493/
[09:58] <ogra> and you dont see that on maverick ?
[09:58] <hrw> panda connected by hdmi cable in hdmi socket of panda to hdmi->dvi-> monitor
[09:58] <ogra> its a known issue with the framebuffer driver
[09:58] <hrw> ogra: it is natty with maverick kernel
[09:58] <ogra> (if you mean that everything is cyan)
[09:59] <hrw> I mean "there is no red"
[09:59] <ogra> yeah, maverick has it too, TI knows it
[09:59] <ogra> or better rob knows it
[09:59] <ogra> not sure he is planning to do something about it though
[10:00] <hrw> one day I will may run x11 to check does it work
[10:00] <ogra> X11 has no probs
[10:00] <ogra> only the console does
[10:01] <hrw> with my luck to panda?
[10:01] <ogra> i assume the issue is in fbcon
[10:01] <ogra> (vs the X11 fbdev driver)
[22:44] <Sp0tter> is there any arm+ubuntu device that can stream 1080p movies over a network for under $100?   I'm thinking of getting this Western Digital HDTV+  thing, but I'd much rather get something more open that can be repurposed later
[22:44] <Sp0tter> i wouldn't mind paying a little more, for something that is open
[22:45] <Sp0tter> there are firmware hacks to unlock some linux stuff on the wdtv thingy buy its not the same as being able to run ubuntu
[22:45] <Sp0tter> so far the only thing i've seen is the panda at $175 + case + psu, looking for somethign cheaper than that
[22:45] <Sp0tter> and i dont want to wait a month to get it :)
[22:46] <Sp0tter> i'm glad we could have this talk
[22:56] <cwillu_at_work> Sp0tter, 5 minutes isn't very long in irc
[22:56] <cwillu_at_work> I'm tempted to not respond for 12 hours just to teach you a lesson :p
[22:57] <cwillu_at_work> that said, I don't know of any cheaper omap3/4 boards
[22:58] <cwillu_at_work> and the panda is the only one I know of offhand that actually does hdmi on the hdmi connector, rather than just the dvi (video) signal
[23:00] <Sp0tter> cwillu_at_work: I don't think you took what i said the way i meant it
[23:00] <Sp0tter> i meant "i talk to much"
[23:00] <Sp0tter> not "you need to hurry up and respond"
[23:00] <Sp0tter> i can see how it was ambiguous though, my bad
[23:01] <Sp0tter> dvi is fine, I'm actually going to use an hdmi to dvi anyways to go to a monitor
[23:03] <hrw> Sp0tter: define "device that can stream 1080p movies over a network"
[23:04] <Sp0tter> hrw: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136593
[23:04] <Sp0tter> same features as that
[23:04] <hrw> Sp0tter: is it "device which can decode and display 1080p stream" or "device which can stream 1080p data for other device to decode"
[23:04] <Sp0tter> decode and display
[23:05] <hrw> panda then
[23:05] <Sp0tter> ok, i'll buy this one for now, and get a panda for the other tv when it is instock and mythtv works
[23:05] <Sp0tter> thanks for the tip
[23:05] <hrw> I did not yet tried 1080p on it but 720p over ethernet was fine
[23:06] <Sp0tter> i've had some mixed results from people talking about 108-p on panda
[23:06] <hrw> I did not yet tried
[23:06] <hrw> and my panda has just 1680x1050 display connected
[23:06] <ogra_ac> works fine
[23:06] <cwillu_at_work> Sp0tter, it matters very much what sort of codec you're using as well
[23:06] <ogra_ac> but i havent tried to stream it in a LAN
[23:07] <cwillu_at_work> and if you actually care about 60fps
[23:07] <hrw> cwillu_at_work: show me 60fps movie
[23:07] <cwillu_at_work> exactly
[23:07] <hrw> cwillu_at_work: most are 24fps
[23:08] <hrw> ok /me -> sleep


[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4054 Diff missing (bionic/ceph). Ready to build (bionic/boost1.74, bionic/nova, bionic/openvswitch, bionic/python-django-compressor)
[19:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4654 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (focal/curl). Proposed pocket (focal/openssl)


[19:47] <aloiece> can't adjust display brightness. anyone here with advice? macbookpro 6.2 ubuntu studi 15.04
[19:53] <zequence> aloiece: Try system settings. And, see if you have to use a function button. May be the other way around on Linux.
[19:55] <aloiece> hmm what exactly shoud i try in system settings?
[19:56] <zequence> I don't have a XFCE in front of me now, but there should be something in power settings, or somwhere
[19:56] <zequence> A slider for screen brightness
[19:57] <aloiece> right, i know that one but it doesn't change anything
[19:58] <zequence> Then, your hardware may not be supported
[19:58] <zequence> It's not really a Ubuntu Studio specific thing. The kernel is the same as -generic, only it has a couple of other configs
[19:59] <zequence> It should be the same on any Ubuntu flavor
[19:59] <aloiece> i see
[19:59] <aloiece> so ubuntu main channel or what would you suggest?
[19:59] <Unit193> pommed or gpomme?
[20:00] <aloiece> neither because it doesn't change anything
[20:00] <aloiece> either
[20:04] <zequence> aloiece: You could try adding nonfree firmware. But, that is just a blind guess
[20:05] <zequence> Sometimes needed for stuff like touchpads or wifi drivers
[20:05] <aloiece> yea' doesn't work so well anymore since 13.04. some workarounds needed and also. keyboard backlights don't work when using nvidia drivers for graphics
[20:06] <aloiece> seems the lcd brightness control is wired to nvidia and the keyboard backlights to intel
[20:06] <aloiece> but that's just a blind guess
[20:06] <zequence> ah


 Other channel: ""i don't want to die... how do i make eth0 accessible to the average computer-using human? ??"
[08:46] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn theblazehen and others
[09:21] <charl_> good morning
[09:21] <charl_> hi Kilos
[09:21] <Kilos> hi charl_ howsit
[09:21] <charl_> good thanks
[09:22] <charl_> and yourself?
[09:22] <Kilos> also good ty
[09:39] <Kilos> hi captine SilverCode Xethron
[09:39] <Kilos> where would this command save the rescued stuff
[09:39] <Kilos> sudo ddrescue -n -b2048 /dev/sr0 cdimage logfile
[09:40] <Kilos> im trying to save a scratched win7 for my son
[09:41] <Kilos> the command showed job done with 0 errors but i dunno where its hiding
[09:42] <Kilos> oh my they were net split
[09:42] <Kilos> charl_, help please
[09:44] <Kilos> i followed this links instructions
[09:45] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/node/1027
[09:45] <Kilos> but his mnt commands dont let me see the image
[09:57] <Squirm> just for future reference on data recovery, a guy I met wrote this article http://surrey.lug.org.uk/kb/datarecovery
[10:03] <Kilos> ty Squirm but im trying to recover a dvd image
[10:03] <Kilos> ill bookmark that link though ta
[10:08] <charl_> hihi i'm back
[10:08] <charl_> Kilos: sorry no idea about that ddrescue
[10:08] <charl_> never used it before, i don't even own a single cd or dvd
[10:08] <Kilos> lol
[10:08] <Kilos> it did its job without errors but it hid the image somewhere
[10:08] <charl_> cdimage according to me should be the name of the iso?
[10:09] <Kilos> ah got it ty
[10:10] <Kilos> in miles not home
[10:10] <Kilos> im doff at times
[10:10] <charl_> whatever your current working directory was at the time
[10:10] <charl_> the basic syntax is ddrescue infile outfile
[10:10] <Kilos> most of the time
[10:10] <charl_> well the example command above also wasn't clear on it
[10:10] <charl_> they should have at least called it cdimage.iso or something
[10:10] <charl_> that would have made it more logical
[10:11] <Kilos> its just cdimage and locked too
[10:11] <charl_> oh it's probably owned as root because you executed it using sudo
[10:11] <charl_> just chown it back to your own user
[10:13] <Kilos> yeah
[10:14] <Kilos> will do or if its the iso use k3b just to burn it
[10:27] <charl_> yes
[10:28] <charl_> i don't know what the difference is between regular dd and ddrescue
[10:28] <charl_> i guess ddrescue just does extra error correction
[10:29] <Kilos> i have no clue. its all there nicely but not an iso so now need to create an iso first
[10:29] <charl_> how do you mean, isn't that cdimage an iso?
[10:29] <charl_> that should be all you need, you could rename it to .iso and burn it with k3b
[10:30] <Kilos> nope, if it was brasero or k3b would open when right clicked
[10:31] <Kilos> oh just rename?
[10:31] <charl_> try rename first
[10:31] <charl_> i don't know if it inspects the file or if it uses the extension
[10:31] <Kilos> will do ty
[10:31] <charl_> you never know with linux :P
[10:31] <Kilos> lol
[10:32] <Kilos> well done now k3b offers to burn it
[10:32] <Kilos> will let you know if its bootable
[10:32] <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos ... sorry just had to go to the shops quickly... back now
[10:33] <Kilos> np nlsthzn i just said morning methinks
[10:33] <nlsthzn> so I will say good afternoon then :p
[10:35] <Kilos> hehe
[10:41] <Kilos> oh btw you old pc dudes
[10:41] <Kilos> i have 2 pioneer dvd writers that open very fast and the dvd/cds jump up and get jammed and messed up
[10:42] <Kilos> is there a fix or must i open them through the little hole manually
[10:50] <theblazehen> Kilos, "dvd" Not that old...
[10:51] <captine> hi Kilos, all
[10:52] <theblazehen> hey captine
[10:53] <charl_> hi captine
[10:53] <charl_> hi theblazehen
[10:55] <psydroid> hi charl_
[10:55] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[10:55] <psydroid> hi theblazehen
[10:55] <psydroid> hi captine
[10:56] <theblazehen> hey charl_ psydroid
[10:57] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[10:59] <charl_> hi psydroid :)
[10:59] <charl_> psydroid: how's it going
[11:00] <psydroid> charl_, it's early morning, but I finally have a weekend free to relax a bit
[11:01] <charl_> very nice
[11:01] <psydroid> so I'm just going to stay at home cleaning up and do some things I haven't had time for lately
[11:01] <psydroid> and of course look for a new house in the city I'll be moving to next month
[11:01] <psydroid> charl_, and you?
[11:06] <charl_> not much, i wanted to go to fosdem but decided against it
[11:06] <charl_> i will just watch some of the videos afterwards
[11:06] <charl_> the only thing you really go to these events for is for casual conversation and networking
[11:06] <charl_> right now i don't have that much to present
[11:06] <charl_> hopefully that will be different next yeart
[11:07] <charl_> *year
[11:07] <psydroid> oh
[11:07] <psydroid> yeah
[11:07] <psydroid> actually I could go
[11:08] <psydroid> because I've taken holidays for that week
[11:08] <psydroid> or wait
[11:08] <psydroid> during which weekend is it held?
[11:08] <psydroid> oh today
[11:08] <psydroid> so no, I wouldn't be able to go there either
[11:21] <charl_> yeah it's a long distance on the train to go from where i live
[11:21] <charl_> 5+ hours in each direction
[11:21] <charl_> if you want to book a hotel in brussel it will cost like 80 euro per night
[11:22] <charl_> it's nice if you can get the company to pay
[11:22] <charl_> but if you have to pay for yourself you have to have a good reason to go
[11:23] <charl_> but i only found out about it like a month ago - now i know so next year i can prepare in advance
[11:23] <charl_> they do have some really interesting sessions, i am looking forward to watching the videos afterwards
[11:27] <psydroid> yes
[11:27] <psydroid> everything is so expensive there
[11:28] <psydroid> http://lanyrd.com/places/poland/
[11:28] <psydroid> I'm finding all kinds of interesting conferences here
[11:28] <psydroid> and there are definitely a few I'm going to attend
[11:29] <Kilos> found workaround on too fast dvd open, insulation tape at one end puts brakes on and it opens kiff
[11:30] <Kilos> need to go off to check if dvd is bootable
[11:30] <Kilos> be good
[11:35] <charl_> psydroid: oh those are very nice, are they in english or polish?
[11:35] <psydroid> charl_, I assume in English
[11:35] <psydroid> because there are also foreign speakers
[11:35] <psydroid> http://www.ef.nl/epi/
[11:36] <psydroid> and as far as English is concerned Poles aren't doing that badly either
[11:36] <charl_> very nice
[11:36] <charl_> oh whow we are at number 3
[11:36] <charl_> not sure if i should include myself in that :)
[11:38] <psydroid> I think you should, I haven't noticed any mistakes in your English so far :)
[11:39] <psydroid> my level of English was assessed as C2 as part of the interview I had last week and I think you're quite close to reaching that level as well
[11:57] <theblazehen> damn, this is hilarious
[11:58] <theblazehen> learningbot, are you fucking sorry?!
[11:58] <learningbot> theblazehen, i think i even opened a bug about it at one point, and the big slaughter will start
[11:58] <theblazehen> are you shitting me...
[11:58] <theblazehen> learningbot, are you fucking sorry?!
[11:59] <learningbot> theblazehen, it's not like a big loss or anything... every time i want to keep
[11:59] <theblazehen> It was supposed to say "theblazehen, i'm trying to learn my system... every time i want to keep"
[12:00] <charl_> what are you doing theblazehen ?
[12:00] <theblazehen> charl_, AI chatbot :)
[12:00] <charl_> oh
[12:00] <charl_> are you writing it yourself?
[12:00] <theblazehen> wanted to share funny response
[12:00] <theblazehen> nah, got it on github
[12:00] <charl_> url?
[12:00] <theblazehen> Gonna train it on ALL of the ubuntu logs
[12:00] <theblazehen> gimme a sec
[12:01] <theblazehen> charl_, https://github.com/spion/triplie-ng
[12:01] <charl_> oh you give it the ubuntu logs as a source?
[12:01] <theblazehen> charl_, nah, still dl'ing the logs
[12:01] <theblazehen> Got 359MB of plaintext logs so far
[12:29] <nlsthzn> where I live - http://youtu.be/CVZ_BpMkZoo
[12:30] <charl_> hi nlsthzn
[12:30] <charl_> checking
[12:30] <nlsthzn> alo
[12:34] <charl_> oh my goodness
[12:34] <charl_> what ?!
[12:34] <charl_> you live there?
[12:35] <nlsthzn> Ruwais ... yup
[12:35] <nlsthzn> :p
[12:36] <nlsthzn> I can add that the video is a parody and it isn't quite that bad
[12:36] <charl_> oh ok, i was about to ask "why?"
[12:36] <charl_> i mean i live in the middle of the forest but it is a heck of a lot better than ruwais
[12:37] <nlsthzn> I live here cause I work here... have to go where the money is
[12:38] <charl_> lol yes that is usually the case
[12:40] <charl_> ok i'm off to do some shopping, bbl
[12:40] <charl_> and yes, we even have shops here in the middle of the forest :P
[12:40] <charl_> and the construction has been completed, so yes, better than ruwais :P
[12:53] <Kilos> hi yusuf long time no see
[12:54] <yusuf> hi Kilos
[12:54] <yusuf> yeah its been years
[12:54]  * yusuf forgot there was something like IRC
[12:56] <Kilos> shame on you
[12:56] <Kilos> ohi magespawn
[12:56] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[12:59]  * yusuf doesn
[13:00]  * yusuf doesn't  see drubin around. Anyone know we did he go?
[13:00] <Kilos> he never says anything here anymore, too busy i think
[13:29] <Private_User> hey Kilos, have you now create an ##ubuntu-za-social?
[13:29] <Private_User> I saw that on your channel
[13:30] <Kilos> lol yeah Private_User but ive still gotta sort something out. the minute someone joins chanserv goes away
[13:33] <Kilos> something to do with mode setting but i cant find what where why or how
[13:33] <Kilos> grrr
[13:34] <Kilos> need to ask someone with brains
[13:55] <theblazehen> Kilos, you called?
[13:56] <Kilos> did i theblazehen ?
[13:56] <Kilos> hehe
[13:56] <Kilos> hi smile
[13:57] <theblazehen> Kilos, "need to ask someone with brains" hehe
[13:57] <smile> hi :)
[13:57] <Kilos> theblazehen, you know about setting up channel on freenode so chanserv dont run away when someone joins the channel
[13:57] <theblazehen> Kilos, ya?
[13:58] <Kilos> what do i need to do then?
[13:58] <theblazehen> this: /msg ChanServ REGISTER #channelname
[13:58] <Kilos> it is registered
[13:59] <Kilos> chanserv is there when it opens
[13:59] <theblazehen> What do you need to do?
[13:59] <theblazehen> ah, nvm
[13:59] <Kilos> when anyone else joins then chanserv quits
[13:59] <theblazehen> did you read the /msg chanserv help ?
[14:00] <Kilos> ya lotsa stuff there
[14:00] <Kilos> something about a successor is needed i think
[14:00] <Kilos> dunno what that means
[14:04] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[14:28] <charl_> hi smile
[14:28] <charl_> hi Xethron
[14:28] <charl_> :)
[14:30] <Kilos> ok guys we have a social channel now as well
[14:30] <Kilos> ##ubuntu-za-social
[14:32] <Kilos> theblazehen, the command is /msg chanserv set (channel) GUARD ON
[14:33] <charl_> why Kilos ?
[14:33] <Kilos> why what?
[14:33] <charl_> how is that different from this channel ?
[14:33] <charl_> and why a double hash in front?
[14:33] <Kilos> its for use mainly when peeps are busy here sorting probs or having a meeting
[14:34] <Kilos> because its not an official ubuntu channel
[14:34] <charl_> oh i see
[14:34] <charl_> the dutch also have a channel #ubuntu-nl-offtopic
[14:34] <charl_> why not stick to that convention ?
[14:34] <charl_> keeps things consistent
[14:34] <Kilos> eish you want me to go through all of that again
[14:35] <charl_> the germans have  #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[14:35] <charl_> sorry but i think it's worth while doing it once and doing it properly :)
[14:36] <Kilos> i hink it was debian or so that use the -social at the end so i followed that idea
[14:36] <charl_> highvoltage owns #ubuntu-za according to chanserv
[14:36] <Kilos> didnt know about the others
[14:36] <Kilos> yes its his channel
[14:36] <charl_> the same people should own both channels if they are related
[14:37] <Kilos> he is never here anymore. much too busy with other stuff
[14:37] <charl_> foundership should be transferred then to somebody like inetpro
[14:38] <Kilos> he is on call if there are probs though
[14:38] <charl_> oh ok
[14:42] <charl_> yeah the -offtopic is quite popular https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:42] <charl_> get it listed on that page too and put it in the channel topic here
[14:42] <charl_> same as on the dutch and german channels
[14:43] <charl_> just go for consistency
[14:46] <Kilos> too much work man
[14:47] <charl_> when you want to do things, do them properly, no half measures :P
[14:47] <Kilos> lol
[14:48] <Kilos> its a working channel registered and all. no one is forced to use it
[14:49] <Kilos> takes me hours or days to get that kinda thing working. im not fast like you okes
[14:49] <charl_> ask inetpro to sort it later
[14:50] <Kilos> ya i can do that
[14:50] <charl_> i would have done it for you but i have no administrative power here
[14:50] <charl_> i just idle here and pest you people :)
[14:50] <Kilos> hehe
[14:55] <charl_> whow i have two projects that i need to insert time into this year
[14:56] <charl_> just been so busy the last few months i don't get around to them
[15:34] <Kilos> wbb
[16:36] <smile> hi charl_ :)
[16:36] <smile> how are you? :)
[16:37] <charl_> smile: i'm doing great thanks, and yourself?
[16:37] <smile> Just submitted the Dutch translation of www.whylinuxisbetter.net
[16:37] <smile> :DD
[16:37] <charl_> good for you !
[16:38] <smile> and good for you, since you can read dutch ;)
[16:38] <charl_> is that this? http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/index_nl.php?lang=nl
[16:38] <charl_> yes :)
[16:38] <smile> charl_: that's the old version :p
[16:38] <charl_> ah
[16:38] <smile> I said "just" :)
[16:38] <smile> because it isn't uploaded yet
[16:38] <smile> ;)
[16:39] <smile> charl_: patience will be rewarded
[16:39] <charl_> ah i see, i will check back then
[16:39] <charl_> but patience is a virtue ;)
[16:39] <charl_> i am looking forward to the fosdem videos of today being uploaded
[16:39] <charl_> i want to see the video by wietse wenema
[16:39] <smile> yes, it is, charl_ ;)
[16:39] <smile> charl_: what did he present? :)
[16:40] <charl_> it will be here http://video.fosdem.org/2014/
[16:40] <charl_> a very interesting-looking talk about postfix
[16:40] <charl_> about development over the last 10 years
[16:40] <charl_> and what they are doing right now security-related
[16:40] <smile> :DD
[16:40] <smile> great :)
[16:41] <charl_> https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/postfix_lessons_learned_and_recent_developments/
[16:42] <smile> venema is Dutch, right? :)
[16:42] <charl_> yes
[16:42] <charl_> this also sounds good https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/capiscum/
[16:42] <charl_> sorry venema, not wenema :)
[16:42] <charl_> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wietse_Venema
[16:45] <smile> thanks for the link ;)
[16:45] <smile> I've read it
[16:45] <smile> I would like going to Fosdem too, but not this year (maybe next year)
[16:45] <smile> :)
[16:46] <theblazehen> when the server goes down on launch day..
[16:46] <charl_> same hjere
[16:47] <charl_> *here
[16:47] <charl_> this year i did not know about it in time so did not have enough time to respond with a proposal
[16:47] <theblazehen> visin: getting cloudflare error
[16:47] <charl_> i have two topics i would love to talk about
[16:47] <theblazehen> oops
[16:51] <smile> cloudfare sucks :DD
[16:55] <theblazehen> smile, oh?
[16:57] <smile> when I see their trademark, something went wrong ;)
[16:57] <smile> :D
[16:58] <theblazehen> ah :)
[16:58] <theblazehen> Well "a guy I know" fucked shit up REAL bad
[16:58] <theblazehen> like, the server is off
[16:58] <theblazehen> AND dns is fucked
[16:59] <theblazehen> and server isn't coming up..
[16:59] <theblazehen> launch in 4 hours
[17:01] <charl_> i used cloudflare for two sites, i had no problems whatsoever, but i am not sure if i am happy about it either
[17:01] <charl_> smile: how do you feel about github
[17:01] <charl_> i wanted to use github for these two projects of mine but i am leaning towards self-hosted git now with cgit as a web interface
[17:02] <theblazehen> charl_, I heard gitbucket > github
[17:02] <theblazehen> I use gitlab for self hosted git
[17:04] <charl_> gitlab looks very good !
[17:05] <charl_> it's a real pity it's running on ruby on rails
[17:05] <charl_> i should install it on a VM and try it out though
[17:05] <theblazehen> charl_, just get the gitlab turnkey linux container?
[17:06] <theblazehen> yeah, put it in a VM
[17:06] <theblazehen> what I do
[17:06] <charl_> ah, trying to find it now
[17:06] <smile> charl_: it's great :D
[17:06] <charl_> ah, this one? http://www.turnkeylinux.org/gitlab
[17:06] <theblazehen> charl_, yeah
[17:07] <smile> charl_: https://github.com/Smile4ever :D
[17:07] <smile> charl_: no idea, but github is easier :)
[17:15] <charl_> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html
[17:15] <charl_> what i find strange is that firefox does not support tls 1.2
[17:18] <theblazehen> http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html lol
[17:20] <charl_> theblazehen: what absolute trash is that?! :)
[17:20] <theblazehen> charl_, lol
[17:20] <charl_> it would have been funny if the music wasn't epically bad :)
[17:21] <charl_> i am also really not impressed with the ssl report on a default apache installation on debian 7 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=charl.eu
[17:21] <charl_> Apache/2.2.22
[17:21] <theblazehen> charl_, you listen to it?
[17:21] <charl_> yeah i managed to "last" until half way
[17:22] <theblazehen> lol...
[17:22] <charl_> time to listen to something half-decent to clean my ears with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3e4bVwhDFA
[17:22] <theblazehen> And the site is still down..
[17:22] <charl_> what went wrong?
[17:23] <theblazehen> Server is down
[17:23] <theblazehen> and not coming up
[17:23] <charl_> hmmm
[17:27] <theblazehen> fuck.. lol
[17:29] <charl_> hahahaha, i am listening to a talk on 30c3 titled "Y U NO ISP, taking back the Net
[17:30] <theblazehen> oh, nice
[17:30] <theblazehen> about meshnets?
[17:31] <charl_> not exactly
[17:31] <theblazehen> about what then?
[17:32] <charl_> it's about this: http://www.ffdn.org/
[17:33] <charl_> sounds brilliant to me
[17:33] <charl_> nice, developing human skill, excellent
[17:33] <charl_> me gusta
[17:34] <charl_> here's the talk: http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5391_-_en_-_saal_6_-_201312291130_-_y_u_no_isp_taking_back_the_net_-_taziden.html
[17:36] <charl_> this is also quite cool http://calc.pw/en
[17:39] <charl_> this also looks amazing: https://gnunet.org/
[17:40] <theblazehen> charl_, yeah, BTW you see freenet too?
[17:41] <charl_> sounds a little like retroshare
[17:42] <theblazehen> charl_, yep
[18:00] <miles_> ai!
[18:00] <theblazehen> miles = Kilos?
[18:05] <inetpro> good morning
[18:06] <theblazehen> hey inetpro
[18:06] <theblazehen> wrong time
[18:07] <inetpro> oops, it is evening already?
[18:07] <inetpro> where did the day go?
[18:07] <theblazehen> lol
[18:08] <inetpro> oja, wasted a lot of it standing in queues at the shops
[18:08] <theblazehen> Goddamnit, 2 hours till we go live.. Or are supposed to
[18:09]  * inetpro should remember to stay away from the shops at the end of the month
[18:09] <inetpro> theblazehen: going live with?
[18:09] <theblazehen> cryptocurrency launch
[18:10] <inetpro> Yikes!
[18:10] <theblazehen> yep..
[18:10] <theblazehen> Server not booting
[18:10] <theblazehen> So we moving everything to secondary server
[18:10] <inetpro> ok
[18:11] <theblazehen> Been a bit stressful lol
[18:12] <charl_> ooh made nice dinner now, two demi-baguettes with rucola and falfrais
[18:13] <charl_> *valfrais
[18:13] <theblazehen> charl_, never heard of it
[18:13] <charl_> belgian stuff, smile will know it
[18:13] <theblazehen> lol, kk
[18:14] <charl_> which cryptocurrency?
[18:14] <charl_> your own nyan coin?
[18:14] <charl_> http://nyancoin.org/
[18:15] <theblazehen> nope, eMunie
[18:15] <theblazehen> But I'm not main dev
[18:15] <theblazehen> just help out with websites etc.
[18:16] <charl_> heh googled and got this https://xrptalk.org/topic/927-emunie-a-scam-according-to-this-thread-it-is/
[18:16] <smile> charl_: what kind of stuff? food? :D
[18:16] <smile> I see :)
[18:16] <smile> Yes, I do know it :)
[18:17] <charl_> valfrais is a belgian company?
[18:17] <theblazehen> charl_, it's not a scam...
[18:17] <charl_> i dunno i just googled it and that was one of the first few results, not exactly good advertisement ...
[18:17] <theblazehen> Besides, what kind of scammer posts a photo of his passport online
[18:18] <theblazehen> yeah, I know :(
[18:18] <smile> Yes, charl_ :D
[18:18] <smile> HQ in Vaux-sur-Sûre, see https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaux-sur-S%C3%BBre
[18:19] <charl_> ah it's in province luxembourgh
[18:20] <charl_> very close to the state luxembourg
[18:21] <charl_> theblazehen: this guy? http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dan-hughes/7/b11/2a6
[18:21] <theblazehen> charl_, yep
[18:22] <charl_> do you have the url of his passport?
[18:22] <charl_> i know enough about european passports that i should know if it's fake :)
[18:22] <charl_> unless of course if it's a good fake :P
[18:22] <theblazehen> Lemme see..
[18:24] <theblazehen> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=419529.new#new should be it
[18:24] <Kilos> evening everyone
[18:24] <theblazehen> oops, someone deleted pic
[18:24] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[18:24] <theblazehen> oh, wait, it was hosted on our servers
[18:24] <theblazehen> and our servers are down
[18:25] <charl_> lol
[18:26] <charl_> haha this "morning after" pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/meidocafejp/12248309686/
[18:26] <theblazehen> "[8:26:23 PM] Cory Stevenson[visin] - eMunie: so has the whole DNS protocol changed over night?
[18:26] <theblazehen> [8:26:27 PM] Cory Stevenson[visin] - eMunie: because i dont seem to get it anymore
[18:26] <theblazehen> " Our admin..
[18:27] <Kilos> hi not_found superfly
[18:27] <charl_> sounds to me like somebody does not understand multicasted dns
[18:27] <charl_> anycasted dns, i mean
[18:27] <theblazehen> charl_, ah?
[18:29] <theblazehen> ah?
[18:29] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:29] <theblazehen> I just don't understand DNS...
[18:29] <charl_> it's really not difficult
[18:29] <theblazehen> I get the basics
[18:30] <theblazehen> Like the hierarchy, etc
[18:30] <theblazehen> but not like how it's decured and shit
[18:30] <charl_> http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-dns-is-simple-fast-and-flexible
[18:30] <theblazehen> secured*
[18:31] <theblazehen> ty
[18:31] <charl_> do you use dnssec? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System_Security_Extensions
[18:31] <charl_> i have it enabled on my domain, i'm quite happy with it
[18:31] <theblazehen> I'm too poor for a domain...
[18:32] <charl_> http://dnssec-debugger.verisignlabs.com/charl.eu
[18:32] <theblazehen> What am I looking at?
[18:32] <charl_> the dnssec report of my domain
[18:33] <theblazehen> kk
[18:33] <charl_> this is also extremely nice http://dnsviz.net/d/charl.eu/dnssec/
[18:33] <theblazehen> kk
[18:35] <inetpro> hi Kilos, superfly
[18:35] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[18:35] <superfly> hi inetpro
[18:36] <charl_> hi inetpro
[18:36] <Kilos> 17mm gisteraand en bietjie net nou
[18:36] <inetpro> charl_: hi
[18:36] <inetpro> 27.5
[18:36] <charl_> Kilos: here's inetpro ask him about that channel
[18:36] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:37] <Kilos> you ask him
[18:37] <charl_> lol
[18:37] <Kilos> haha its bugging you more than me
[18:37] <inetpro> we don't need no social channel do we?
[18:37] <Kilos> inetpro:  hes fighting me about the social channel
[18:38] <charl_> no i'm not fighting, i'm just saying, keep it in line with other countries
[18:38] <inetpro> most of everything in here is social already
[18:38] <Kilos> you never heard of apartheid
[18:38] <charl_> lol
[18:38] <charl_> apartheid that's hilarious
[18:38] <Kilos> lol
[18:38] <charl_> channel apartheid yes
[18:38] <Kilos> im inna rebelious mood
[18:39] <inetpro> and then we still have #ubuntu-afr
[18:39] <Kilos> inetpro:  we got one now o its there for use when this channel is doing on topic stuff
[18:40] <Kilos> so if you dont like the idea get a 4lb hammer and ill remove it
[18:40] <Kilos> maybe
[18:40] <charl_> lol
[18:40] <inetpro> has anyone joined yet?
[18:41] <Kilos> QA
[18:41] <Kilos> and georgl was in and out
[18:41] <inetpro> ai!
[18:41] <Kilos> ya no body loves me
[18:41] <Kilos> i go eat worms inna bottom of the garden
[18:42] <inetpro> sounds healthy
[18:42] <Kilos> lol
[18:42] <charl_> extra protein
[18:42] <Kilos> you betta join or ill sulk
[18:43] <inetpro> we'll join if and when we really need it
[18:43] <Kilos> grrrr
[18:43] <Kilos> you need to lead the way man
[18:45] <inetpro> start by saying on topic in this channel
[18:45] <inetpro> staying as well
[18:45] <Kilos> haha was just gonna suggest we enforce the topic issue
[18:46] <charl_> then you kill the whole channel cause 90% of activity is off topic
[18:46] <Kilos> yeah
[18:47] <inetpro> charl_: exactly my point
[18:47] <charl_> i think what you are trying to say is if we move all the off-topic stuff to a different channel you kill this one in the process
[18:51] <Kilos> man its mainly for when we are busy working here not chatting
[18:51] <inetpro> we are not exactly a support channel here
[18:52] <inetpro> on topic is difficult to pin down
[18:52] <Kilos> you peeps supported me and i think its a good show to continue the trend
[18:53] <Kilos> this has always been known as the friendliest most helpfull ubuntu channel
[18:53] <Kilos> main channel is a mad house
[18:53] <Kilos> even 2 eyes isnt enough to keep up there
[18:56] <inetpro> wb deegee__
[18:56] <deegee__> inetpro: yo!
[18:56] <Kilos> ohi deegee__
[18:56] <Kilos> hows davey?
[18:56] <drussell> Kilos: heya Kilos
[18:57] <drussell> Kilos: good thanks, you?
[18:57] <Kilos> good ty
[18:59] <charl_> hi drussell
[18:59] <drussell> charl_: hey there
[19:03]  * inetpro goes crashing
[19:03] <inetpro> Good night
[19:06] <theblazehen> cya inetpro
[19:07] <Kilos> night inetpro
[19:07] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:11] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:11] <somaunn> hi guys
[20:32] <smile> Good night! :)


[03:26] <YoKeSeh> Hello, I have disabled pulseaudio as it says here:
[03:26] <YoKeSeh> https://kodi.wiki/view/PulseAudio/HOW-TO:_Disable_PulseAudio_and_use_ALSA_(without_removing_PulseAudio)_for_Ubuntu
[03:26] <YoKeSeh> It is supposed that now I should have sound working with ALSA but it is not like that. How do I activate ALSA? Thank you
[04:33] <valorie> YoKeSeh: there is alsamixer, which works on the commandline
[04:33] <valorie> pretty easy to use though
[04:33] <valorie> !info alsamixer
[04:34] <valorie> hmmm
[04:34] <Unit193> It comes in alsa-utils.
[04:34] <valorie> oh right
[04:34] <valorie> which I believe is installed by default
[04:35] <valorie> so YoKeSeh, just open a konsole and type: alsamixer
[04:35] <valorie> you use your arrow keys to make it work
[04:36] <valorie> hit f1 for help once you're in there
[04:57] <YoKeSeh> Thanks, I solved it. I just wanted to use it in my application within wine so I installed winetrick and configured it from there
[10:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:03] <BluesKaj> !poll
[17:36] <Quantos> Heya guys, is there such a thing as a big book of KUbuntu?
[17:37] <Quantos> I mean documentation for beginners in paperback
[17:37] <Quantos> My cousin wants to use KUbuntu but he's got this thing against ebooks
[17:39] <OerHeks> not sure there is one on amazon, i would stick to the online version that gets updates, and tons of blogs and sites with examples/howto's https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[17:39] <Quantos> I think I just lucked into one
[17:39] <Quantos> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1757619
[17:40] <Quantos> Says it's the official book of Ubuntu
[17:40] <Quantos> Might be close enough for him
[17:40] <OerHeks> ubuntu (gnome3) give different programms than KDE
[17:40] <Quantos> Yeah, forgot about that
[17:41] <Quantos> Maybe a book on KDE then
[17:41] <Quantos> He can learn the DE first
[17:41] <OerHeks> oh, i misread, there is a kubuntu chapter..
[17:41] <Quantos> Oh, I found one in Spanish....
[17:42] <Quantos> I could always just get him a printer...
[17:46] <mparillo> There are ePubs and PDFs for all current versions at: https://kubuntu.org/support/
[17:46] <Quantos> Yeah, I see those
[17:46] <Quantos> I think he's going to be better off with a printer
[17:47] <Quantos> Gnome?  Could it be true, did Ubuntu dump Unity?
[17:47] <Quantos> Tried that a couple of times, it was just clunky as hell
[17:48] <mparillo> Yup. Unity is no longer the flagship. It is (IMHO, barely) only supported through the community. Irony is that Unity is what initially drove me to Kubuntu.
[17:48] <Quantos> Me too
[17:48] <Quantos> I'm much happier
[17:49] <Quantos> I'm pretty fond of XFCE too
[17:51] <Quantos> I did not know that you could get official installation media
[17:51] <Quantos> https://www.amazon.com/Kubuntu-18-10-Feature-Release-Desktop/dp/B07KTFM97J
[17:51] <Quantos> I might have to buy one just to have
[17:52] <Quantos> Stand it up beside my Google Cardboard
[17:52] <OerHeks> 18.10 is nearly EOL, 9 months support, so look for 19.04 .. or just plain LTS 18.04
[17:52] <mparillo> cuddlefish?
[17:53] <Quantos> I don't think fish are very cuddly
[17:53] <Quantos> Oh, I'm not after the software on it, I have USB
[17:53] <Quantos> My pc doesn't even have an ODD anymore
[17:54] <Quantos> I just want the disc
[17:54] <mparillo> Based on that alone, I doubt it is 'official' Plus the logo is old. (just to warn others lurking here).
[17:54] <Quantos> Ah
[17:54] <Quantos> So likely just burned
[17:54] <Quantos> Too bad
[17:55] <Quantos> I don't recognize the logo at all, it must be pretty old then
[17:55] <Quantos> I thought it was a new one
[17:58] <Quantos> LOL, now I'm looking for KUbuntu merchandise
[20:28] <Basstorius> {nick ssü
[20:32] <SubToPewds> hello
[20:36] <valorie> cuddlefish????
[20:36] <valorie> it was cuttlefish
[20:37] <valorie> how weird to sell such a thing