[04:14] <bob2> i3dmaste1: I think so
[04:14] <doug_gg> I just re-installed windows XP on my dual boot PC
[04:14] <i3dmaste1> bob2: ok sounds like you knew something. I upgraded to 2.6.10-34.1 and it just did not work
[04:14] <djgomez33> all it has in it I beleive is <IP_ADDRESS> localhosts
[04:14] <bob2> matt__: and so will ubuntu, probably, but it's still nasty...
[04:14] <matt__> but with ubuntu I can't get it to turn on
[04:14] <bob2> i3dmaste1: get the latest one
[04:14] <bob2> djgomez33: there you go
[04:14] <doug_gg> now windows boot manager over writes the GRUB of Ubuntu
[04:14] <doug_gg> how can i get GRUB back in control , thanks
[04:15] <i3dmaste1> bob2: latest? where? I updated today and did not see there is one available
[04:15] <bob2> djgomez33: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost laptop
[04:15] <spinifex> there's a windows boot manager?
[04:15] <bob2> djgomez33: make the first line say that
[04:15] <nalioth> spinifex: be nice
[04:15] <bob2> i3dmaste1: ok
[04:15] <Triffid_Hunter> doug_gg: boot off linux cd, mount your root and dev and proc and boot, chroot in and reinstall grub
[04:15] <doug_gg> it's windows
[04:15] <djgomez33> exactly?
[04:15] <doug_gg> :O
[04:15] <doug_gg> can i use Ubuntu boot CD?
[04:15] <nalioth> doug_gg: get your ubuntu live cd, and follow the above instructions
[04:16] <bob2> djgomez33: yes
[04:16] <spinifex> nalioth: what?  I've been dual boot for years.  XP has never called a boot manager on me
[04:16] <doug_gg> i guess windows just overwrote the MBR ok
[04:16] <i3dmaste1> bob2: gunzip: initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386.gz: not in gzip format
[04:16] <nalioth> spinifex: its not a boot manager like you're thinking, its a guide for the puter to start windoze and only windoze
[04:16] <FlyingSquirrel32> spinifex, That happens if you install windows after you install linux
[04:16] <bob2> i3dmaste1: what does file say it is?
[04:16] <nalioth> doug_gg: yes, XP ate your mbr
[04:16] <spinifex> ohh
[04:17] <doug_gg> so after i boot from Ubuntu cd, now what?
[04:17] <spinifex> so not something that selects different things to boot..
[04:17] <i3dmaste1> bob2: initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386.gz: Linux Compressed ROM File System data
[04:17] <glick> i dont know if i like to be able to just sudo from my account as can be dangerous cant it?
[04:17] <bob2> i3dmaste1: oh, there you go, not gzip'd
[04:17] <FlyingSquirrel32> doug_gg, yes, windows will overwrite it. you can fix it in windows, but it's probably esier to reinstall grub
[04:17] <i3dmaste1> bob2: it looks like different then redhat stuff
[04:17] <bob2> glick: no more dangerous than being able to login as root
[04:17] <bob2> i3dmaste1: yeah
[04:17] <doug_gg> yes, please tell me how to reinstall GRUB
[04:18] <i3dmaste1> bob2: but that's ok, what tool do you know can get it unzipped?
[04:18] <stuNNed> anyone use ldap with evolution?
[04:18] <bob2> i3dmaste1: eh? it sounds very much like you can just mount it.
[04:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter, can you please elaborate on your solution for doug_gg?
[04:19] <imaek> How can I convert a .mp3 to a .ogg in FFMPEG?
[04:19] <i3dmaste1> bob2: tried, wouldn't work. ask me for the fs type which I have no idea
[04:19] <bob2> imaek: don't bother
[04:19] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter, to mount those folders, can he just use sudo mount / for ex?
[04:19] <doug_gg> thanks FlyingSquirrel32
[04:19] <tritium> imaek, are you sure you want to lose additional sound quality?
[04:19] <imaek> I have to, bob2 .
[04:19] <imaek> Yes.
[04:19] <i3dmaste1> bob2: I usually just do loop mount, but it doesn't work
[04:19] <bob2> i3dmaste1: sudo mount -t cramfs -o loop /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-2-686 /mnt
[04:19] <djgomez33> thanks bob2 your the man
[04:19] <bob2> imaek: why?
[04:20] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingSquirrel32: he'll need /dev and /boot mounted inside the chroot at a minimum, and also /usr if necessary
[04:20] <i3dmaste1> bob2: k, trying
[04:20] <imaek> bob2: it's a project someone's working on and they need a .ogg file
[04:20] <geneo93> imaek:  why do you have to
[04:20] <bob2> djgomez33: np
[04:20] <doug_gg> sh*t, i can just google it and find my own way
[04:20] <Triffid_Hunter> basically the process is to fool grub into thinking its running from his installed linux rather than the cd, which is what the chroot is for
[04:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter, but doesnt ubuntu make it all one partition by default?
[04:20] <Lafitte-> does htis command work for anyone using Ubuntu cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI
[04:21] <Triffid_Hunter> i dunno.. i don't use ubuntu
[04:21] <i3dmaste1> bob2: ok. this is wonderful. you got it!
[04:21] <Triffid_Hunter> doesn't it give you the option during install? last time i installed it, it asked me..
[04:21] <tritium> imaek, use sox to convert (see sox manpage for details)
[04:21] <bob2> Lafitte-: sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso
[04:21] <bob2> i3dmaste1: remember, you can't modify, though
[04:21] <bob2> Lafitte-: no need to scan, you know the device name already
[04:21] <matt__> flyingsquirrel32, ubuntu will let you make partitions and resize
[04:21] <spinifex> resize?
[04:22] <Lafitte-> bob2,   let me try
[04:22] <i3dmaste1> bob2: I know, I will copy them out. but ya, its a problem, if I change anything, how I can make a new one then?
[04:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> matt__, but if he's as new as he sounds, he used the defaults like me.
[04:22] <danko123456> bah, finally...dont set your gateway on an interface unless that interface interfaces with the internet. Otherwise you will not be able to get online.
[04:22] <matt__> yea when installing from CD I resized my NTFS partition
[04:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> matt__, I've got / and /proc
[04:22] <bob2> i3dmaste1: if all you want to do is modify it, I'm pretty sure editing /etc/mkinitrd.conf and running mkinitrd is plenty
[04:22] <spinifex> if I have a windows partition (fat32) that doesn't use all its capacity, can I use ubuntu to grab a chunk out of it and format that?
[04:22] <xf`> bob2: I'm getting Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) when iI do `aoss mpg123  foo.mp3`  I've folowed the instructions up to that point.
[04:22] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingSquirrel32: /proc is a pseudo filesystem, as is /sys and usually /dev too ;)
[04:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> matt__, a simple mount command will do?
[04:23] <geneo93> hehe
[04:23] <bob2> xf`: is the device in use?
[04:23] <kroc> hi again
[04:23] <danko123456> hey
[04:23] <xf`> bob2: Nothing is running that would be using it.
[04:23] <xf`> esd is not running, nothing else is up
[04:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter, so do you mount them seperatly, or will they all be mounted when you do mount /
[04:23] <matt__> flyingsquirrel32, I'm not sure if you can do it from any other place than when running the install CD
[04:23] <tritium> Lafitte-, you can specify the device details in /etc/default/cdrecord
[04:23] <kroc> i was wondering.. since i have a website on my comp, but my comp is not always on, is there any way to make it always avaiable?
[04:23] <bob2> xf`: fuser -v /dev/{dsp,mixer,audio} /dev/snd/*
[04:23] <danko123456> spinifex, likely, use gtparted.
[04:24] <kroc> like maybe a free adless webhosting server?
[04:24] <bob2> kroc: put it on a machine that is always on
[04:24] <kroc> bob2: dont have others
[04:24] <xf`> mixer_applet2
[04:24] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter & matt__, Now you've got me confused... what is the command?
[04:24] <i3dmaste1> bob2: tried that before, but there is really nothing I need to modity on that. my root is ext3 fs, and the kernel just can pass it.
[04:24] <xf`> killed that just incase, get the same error
[04:24] <matt__> never used a command, just ran the install CD
[04:24] <kroc> anyone know a free adless webhosting site?
[04:25] <Lafitte-> tritium, ok     how i do that  heh e
[04:25] <i3dmaste1> bob2: btw, I can see what the initrd fs has... :)
[04:25] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingSquirrel32: you can't mount / when booted from cd.. you have to mount /dev/hdblah /mnt ; mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc ; mount -t bind /dev /mnt/dev ; chroot /mnt /bin/bash , then grub-install /dev/hda or whatever
[04:25] <tritium> Lafitte-, take a look at the file.  It's fairly straightforward.
[04:25] <Varanger> hi
[04:25] <Varanger> I need help
[04:25] <Triffid_Hunter> then reboot and see if it works, if it doesn't tell you you missed a bit
[04:25] <bob2> xf`: ignore aoss then, and just use aplay or something
[04:25] <xf`> bob2: Okay
[04:26] <Varanger> I am using Ubuntu Hoary and I can't make my i915 card work
[04:26] <iceman> no op[tion to get above 640x480 resolution
[04:26] <matt__> varanger... networking? graphics?
[04:26] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter, ohhhhh now I see. I'll have to study up on the pseudo filesystems.
[04:26] <bob2> matt__: graphics
[04:26] <bob2> Varanger: there's an open bug about that
[04:27] <FlyingSquirrel32> doug_gg, did you get all of what Triffid_Hunter just said?
[04:27] <Triffid_Hunter> hehe sorry i'm a gentoo user, so doing this all comes naturally to me
[04:27] <matt__> flyingsquirrel32 to advanced for me
[04:28] <iceman> I get no options for display above 640x480 ... but nvidia driver installed ok
[04:28] <FlyingSquirrel32> doug_gg, Don't tell me you've left... :-/
[04:28] <tritium> iceman, drop down to a virtual console and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:28] <iceman> how to virtual consol ?
[04:28] <FlyingSquirrel32> Triffid_Hunter, well, thanks you've taught me something.
[04:29] <Triffid_Hunter> np ;)
[04:29] <tritium> iceman, Ctrl-Alt-F1, for example
[04:29] <tritium> iceman, see this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:29] <iceman> ok .. sec
[04:30] <Varanger> bob2: where can I look for that bug?
[04:30] <Varanger> matt__: graphics intel i915g
[04:30] <Lafitte-> bob2,   i did that  i got a write  but it didnt write the cd
[04:31] <Lafitte-> bob2,  do i need any switches ?   like -J -R  or anything
[04:31] <LiquidAir> hey
[04:32] <Strife> is there a way to have dhcp be backgrounded during startup?
[04:32] <dooglus> the torrent for the hoary dvd iso is still down - but amazingly enough azureus can still download it, using its new 'trackerless torrent' technology.  how does that work??
[04:32] <Lafitte-> Strife,  backgrounded ??
[04:33] <Strife> because I have both a wireless card and an ethernet card, and it gets to be painful having to wait for one to connect but the other to timeout
[04:33] <novaflare> now thats a total trip
[04:33] <Strife> Lafitte-: so it'll load the other stuff while dhcp is running
[04:33] <Lafitte-> Strife,  ctrl c
[04:33] <novaflare> rubies of eventide has a mem leak
[04:33] <Strife> Lafitte-: that quits it
[04:33] <Strife> that doesn't bg it :P
[04:33] <danko123456> ctr+z
[04:33] <novaflare> simply swapping sessions between zones seems to clear it all out
[04:33] <danko123456> bg process number?
[04:33] <danko123456> something like that.
[04:33] <Strife> danko123456: not on startup, buddy
[04:33] <Strife> this is as the system is booting
[04:33] <danko123456> ok, well, I tried:)
[04:34] <Strife> when it says "Configuring network interfaces" or whatever
[04:34] <Jormundgand> I'm planning on switching to Fedora Core 3 soon (hopefully, Deo gratis, tomorrow) and note with irony that in doing so I'll be coming full circle.
[04:34] <Strife> heh, I appreciate the try
[04:34] <danko123456> strife, did yoyu read the ubuntuguide, it has some related entried.
[04:34] <Lafitte-> Strife,  mine can optain dhcp in like 3 seconds
[04:34] <Jormundgand> I lost my penguinity on RedHat Linux 4.2 (and we still have the CD somewhere :D).
[04:34] <danko123456> Jormundgand: how come?
[04:34] <kroc> just found a machine in my house that i can leave on for a long time... now i need a domain name... are there any short ones?
[04:34] <Strife> Lafitte-: so can mine, but I have *two* network interfaces
[04:34] <danko123456> you have been quite frequent here...
[04:34] <Lafitte-> Strife,  i woul dchoose not to load i during startup   and pump dhcp as needed
[04:35] <Strife> Lafitte-: so one of them holds it up there
[04:35] <Jormundgand> danko123456: Because I like fiddling about and trying different distros.
[04:35] <danko123456> ah,
[04:35] <danko123456> k.
[04:35] <Lafitte-> Strife,  so do i
[04:35] <Strife> meh, I don't like that option
[04:35] <Strife> if I could just get it to search for the dhcp server in the background it would be great
[04:35] <Lafitte-> Strife,   oh well  good luck
[04:35] <Lafitte-> meh
[04:35] <iceman> ran the config file ... but kde only give me 640x480 ... but config had 1024 x768 in it
[04:35] <Strife> heh
[04:35] <sublime_> in#ubuntu-es
[04:36] <Jormundgand> I tried Gentoo to conclude that it was more trouble than it's worth.
[04:36] <penguinparty> how does ubuntu load the modules . . . no /etc/modules.conf
[04:36] <Lafitte-> im getting ready to try sarge rc3 here in a few
[04:36] <Lafitte-> ubuntu is great    but really has limited me to certain things
[04:37] <glick> hey, it seems that by default the ubuntu kernel does not support high memory systems or APM do i have to recompile or can i pass the kernel proper arguments to adjust this?
[04:37] <danko123456> dont you ppl have better things to do, than change distros?? Maybe you are looking w\for something, cause the what you have dont work for you? or what, I mean, I am happy to have it work, and do whatever I think of...
[04:37] <tritium> Lafitte-, like what?
[04:37] <danko123456> Why change a distro, I guess is the question if the one you have works.
[04:37] <djgomez33> I can't get my laptop connected to my router, i have the eth1 active
[04:37] <penguinparty> ubuntu doesnt work for me
[04:37] <penguinparty> maybe I should switch :)
[04:38] <penguinparty> no sound .. . alsa wont work . . no /dev/dsp
[04:38] <danko123456> only if there is another thing  that you know will work.
[04:38] <danko123456> penguinparty: stay around, crimsun will know how to fix that.
[04:38] <carthik> penguinparty, ubuntu uses esd ?
[04:38] <tritium> penguinparty, have you looked in /proc/asound?
[04:38] <danko123456> :-p crimsun...
[04:38] <Lafitte-> tritium, alot of things i need to setup have been blocked   for example  touchpad features   or some cdrecord options   some scriptsing things dont work
[04:38] <dooglus> danko123456: in my case I got sick of the community around the one I was using, so I changed to ubuntu because I heard there was good community support for it.  And there is!
[04:38] <crimsun> penguinparty: give me 5 minutes, and I'll resume troubleshooting with you.
[04:38] <penguinparty> I know debian does work ;)
[04:38] <carthik> djgomez33, what was that again - ehternet, or wireless?
[04:38] <penguinparty> crimsun is the master!
[04:39] <glick> penguinparty, what doesnt work?
[04:39] <djgomez33> its wireless
[04:39] <tritium> Lafitte-, scripting things don't work?  That doesn't sound correct.  And cdrecord can be configured in /etc/default/cdrecord
[04:39] <Lafitte-> tritium, dont get me worng     this Ubuntu has done a very awesome job setting up a user desktop for me
[04:39] <danko123456> crimsun, I have a school/teaching question, if I write it out in a pastebin, will you read it at some point, and answer?
[04:39] <penguinparty> alsa . . . no /dev/dsp cant get it created drivers wont load properly
[04:39] <carthik> djgomez33, please use my name, so i know you are talking to me easier
[04:39] <penguinparty> now im running alsa 1.0.9rc4a on <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <penguinparty> still dosnt work
[04:40] <djgomez33> carthik: my wireless connection under eth1 is active, and doing an iwconfig, it is recongizeing my  ESSID
[04:40] <Lafitte-> tritium, i didnt have the same issues with sarge   and my friends that can help me at times dont use Ubuntu   so they have got abit lost trying to help me with some things
[04:40] <carthik> djgomez33, use System ->Administration ->Networking to check if the name of the network is fine
[04:40] <danko123456> penguinparty: wow.":)
[04:40] <glick> is there an ubuntu apt kernel available with high memory support?
[04:40] <iceman> who can help me get video resolutions above 640x480
[04:40] <heavywolf> hello
[04:40] <Lafitte-> tritium, i think im going to duel boot  though    i just rsynced this system to a USB hd      so i will have it
[04:41] <carthik> djgomez33, maybe you need to restart eth1 once? try sudo ifdown eth1 and then sudo ifup eth1
[04:41] <slimb> heavywolf: hello
[04:41] <carthik> djgomez33, then you can see whats going on
[04:41] <djgomez33> carthik: k trying that now
[04:41] <penguinparty> I think that it might be good to stop the modules from loading at boot and load them by hand . . . but I donno where to stop them there is no /etc/modules.conf and deleting the /etc/modutils/alsa-base didnt stop them from loading
[04:41] <heavywolf> slackd00d,  how is it going? im new in ubuntu, i was a debian user
[04:41] <heavywolf> i was trying out this one, and man, it looks so good
[04:41] <carthik> iceman, is that a laptop?
[04:41] <heavywolf> is even faster
[04:41] <tritium> penguinparty, if they're not listed in /etc/modules, they're being hotplugged, so you should blacklist them
[04:41] <iceman> no desktop
[04:41] <Remor> wow....
[04:42] <iceman> nvidia drivers installed ..
[04:42] <iceman> just limited to 640x480 ...
[04:42] <carthik> iceman, find out what video card you have and search the forums?
[04:42] <xyzx> Guys can anyone walk me through install a program from a source file, I am getting errors!
[04:42] <tritium> iceman, did you see that URL I sent you earlier?
[04:42] <iceman> what to fix
[04:42] <penguinparty> tritium: how do I do that? what hotplugs them?
[04:42] <iceman> no url .. sorry
[04:42] <Remor> I just got uh...4 Boxes of ubuntu cd's lol, there must be 800 cd's here. And i only ordered 10 to take my Lug...
[04:42] <tritium> iceman, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:42] <danko123456> hey, I cant get a program to use my audio device, even after I kill esd now...what else could be wrong?
[04:42] <penguinparty> cant unload my alsa once its booted
[04:42] <tritium> penguinparty, you can add them to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:43] <slimb> lol @ Remor
[04:43] <Remor> sheesh
[04:43] <Remor> i think someone made a mistake :P
[04:43] <danko123456> remor, serious, got more than ordered?
[04:43] <slimb> i'd say so Remor :)
[04:43] <djgomez33> carthik: i think it could have something to do with my encryption, I am almost positive I entered everything correctly
[04:43] <tritium> my CDs have not shipped yet
[04:43] <IcemanV9> Remor: have a party and pass it out!!
[04:43] <Remor> i ordered 10 ...
[04:43] <danko123456> wow.
[04:43] <penguinparty> tritium: is that really necessary to get alsa to work?
[04:43] <Remor> Yeah, im taking them to my lug
[04:44] <Remor> but there is maybe only 50 people average there.
[04:44] <danko123456> did you pput in a reason why you want the 10?
[04:44] <crimsun> glick: any non-386 flavor is
[04:44] <Remor> Yeah
[04:44] <tritium> penguinparty, no
[04:44] <carthik> djgomez33, hmm!
[04:44] <crimsun> glick: (686*, k7, etc.)
[04:44] <xb> did anyone else install ubuntu to see that gcc wasnt installed?
[04:44] <tritium> penguinparty, but you're using 2.6.11?  you must need newer alsa modules?
[04:44] <crimsun> penguinparty: what hardware?
[04:44] <Remor> I wanted 8 x86, 1 64, 1 ppc
[04:44] <Strife> xb: it's not hard to get installed :P
[04:44] <penguinparty> tritium: so what would you suggest? Ive tried so many things
[04:44] <penguinparty> su8820
[04:44] <tritium> xb, that's right.  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:44] <djgomez33> carthik: should i have eht1 active or wifo0 active?
[04:44] <danko123456> xyzx: I would make a more specific question, perhaps accompanied by a http://pastebin.com.
[04:44] <penguinparty> oops au8820
[04:45] <crimsun> penguinparty: you didn't put anything in /etc/modprobe.conf, did you?
[04:45] <tritium> penguinparty, I'd defer to crimsun, if you don't mind
[04:45] <srbaker> yo
[04:45] <xb> great.  jus making sure :)
[04:45] <danko123456> yo yo
[04:45] <srbaker> i have an mpg that i'd like to burn on to a video dvd.  what tools can i use?
[04:45] <glick> crimsun, thanks
[04:45] <danko123456> yeah, like make a dvd that can play in a dvd player, srbaker?
[04:45] <penguinparty> crimsun: there is no modprobe.conf
[04:45] <crimsun> penguinparty: good, there shouldn't be
[04:46] <crimsun> penguinparty: dpkg -l alsa-base libasound2 alsa-utils|grep ^ii
[04:46] <penguinparty> crimsun: but it all loads at boot
[04:46] <srbaker> danko123456, yes
[04:46] <xb> tritium, thank you !
[04:46] <danko123456> srbaker: sweet, tell me once you find out. I need the same thing.
[04:46] <tritium> xb, sure :)
[04:46] <carthik> djgomez33, I hope you were editing /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:46] <Remor> Welp, i guess ill have enough disks to pass out @ quakecon :P
[04:46] <penguinparty> crimsun: ive installed 1.0.9rc4a from source like you said to yesterday
[04:46] <tritium> Remor, send some my way ;)
[04:46] <xb> how easily that was done.  now i need to install a proxy -- ill be back to pay my debt ;)
[04:46] <poningru> so why would one compile ubuntu?
[04:46] <crimsun> danko123456: sure, if I have a breather
[04:46] <danko123456> k, thanks.
[04:47] <poningru> instead of just installing it?
[04:47] <carthik> djgomez33, I am not too sure about how to get encryption working though - dont have encryption going here
[04:47] <crimsun> penguinparty: so /proc/asound/version contains 1.0.9rc4a?
[04:47] <djgomez33> carthik: yes, under wireless settings and connections settings
[04:47] <penguinparty> crimsun: dpkg shows alsa-base      1.0.8-4ubuntu4
[04:47] <tritium> poningru, I don't think you'd see much return on your investment in effort and time
[04:47] <crimsun> penguinparty: right
[04:47] <poningru> but see I want to learn as well
[04:47] <djgomez33> carthik: I noticed there is an eth1 and wifo0 whats the difference, should i use one or the othe or both?
[04:47] <penguinparty> crimsun: no your right /proc/asound/version shows older stuff
[04:48] <matt__> djgomez33, do you have wifi working?
[04:48] <penguinparty> crimsun: why would it be loading the old stuff still?
[04:48] <crimsun> penguinparty: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd.ko'
[04:49] <penguinparty> \/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/sound/acore/snd.ko
[04:49] <penguinparty> /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko
[04:49] <djgomez33> carthik: I had eth1 active but it wouldn't find any website i visited
[04:49] <carthik> djgomez33, that is due to improper configuration.
[04:49] <penguinparty> rats I gotta run
[04:50] <carthik> djgomez33, maybe you can did what my friend did - turn off encryption, try first, and later, try and work with encryption
[04:50] <danko123456> he waqsnt joking.
[04:50] <carthik> djgomez33, so you know something works
[04:50] <danko123456> I wanna know what is using my sound device.
[04:50] <Vinoo> hi
[04:50] <IIIEars_> I am sorry, just crushed 2 ubuntu installs and a 10 disk (2hour) Windows install trying to get grub right. can anyone give me the suntax for linux on the second larger drive?
[04:50] <thphox> Hello
[04:50] <kroc> howdy
[04:50] <crimsun> danko123456: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[04:50] <poningru> so anyone got a guide for compiling ubuntu
[04:50] <danko123456> thanks.
[04:50] <Vinoo> i just did a smart upgrade with synaptic and gnome broke
[04:50] <djgomez33> carthik: I can get them both to say active, however i getting "website not found"
[04:50] <danko123456> nothuing means nothing, right?
[04:50] <tritium> Vinoo, are you using breezy?
[04:50] <crimsun> danko123456: right
[04:50] <spinifex> poningru: why do you want ubuntu?
[04:50] <Vinoo> no hoary
[04:50] <crimsun> (presuming you're using ALSA)
[04:51] <danko123456> thanks.
[04:51] <tritium> poningru, I doubt such a guide exists
[04:51] <poningru> ic
[04:51] <carthik> djgomez33, their saying "active" means nothing with regard to the connection.
[04:51] <kroc> and why would you want to compile ubunutu for anyway?
[04:51] <iceman> well .. that still did not work ..
[04:51] <Vinoo> there's a guide on the ubuntu page about upgrading
[04:51] <poningru> see want to learn compiling distro but dont want something hard as balls
[04:51] <danko123456> I am trying to get the same thing like last night, working, I rebooted, killed esd, and when I start the sdame program that woprked before the reboot(using the aforementioned steps) gives me the error that it can not open sound device.
[04:52] <djgomez33> carthik: I have a bad feeling it has something to do with my encryption, maybe I will turn it off and test it
[04:52] <Vinoo> it says wait for the problem to come up on the mailing lists
[04:52] <IIIEars_> If Ubuntu is on drive two and XP is drive one wht is the syntax for gub-install and then grub menu.lst?
[04:52] <tritium> poningru, perhaps compile a few packages instead of an entire install?
[04:52] <Unintentional> Question: Whenever I attempt to play a DVD in Totem, it freezes up.  I've so far installed gstreamer 0.8,
[04:52] <carthik> djgomez33, yes. that would be a good way to start - get something working and then go from there
[04:52] <danko123456> Unintentional: other files work?
[04:52] <IIIEars_> Google has conflicting examples
[04:52] <poningru> I guess I should choose another distro like arch or something thanks anyway guys
[04:52] <carthik> poninguru, it is more or less the same, all the time. You should try gentoo, perhaps? It is not hard -- with all that documentation!
[04:53] <danko123456> IIIEars_:
[04:53] <danko123456> oops
[04:53] <Unintentional> haven't tested.  give me a minute to find one.
[04:53] <iceman> xorg.conf has the setting for higher resolution .. what next ?
[04:53] <danko123456> IIIEars_: weird question, go more... more info, I wanna know what is installed, whatever, whatever...
[04:53] <danko123456> what you are installing...
[04:54] <Unintentional> I get the audio stream to any mpg file, but no video.
[04:54] <crimsun> Unintentional: are you using totem or totem-xine?
[04:54] <xyzx> danko123456,  here is the actions that I've taken to install the source file http://pastebin.com/290505
[04:54] <danko123456> IIIEars_: I know for a fact, that, I have never gotten grub to boot into my second hard drive which has windows.
[04:54] <Unintentional> just totom.
[04:54] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[04:54] <djgomez33> carthik: is there a way for ubunto to find the wireless connections available automatically?
[04:54] <Unintentional> *totem.
[04:54] <IIIEars_> windows xp is on drive one 80g and ubuntu is on drive two 120g  xp boots from the second partition of drive one ubutu from drive 2 first partition.
[04:55] <crimsun> Unintentional: does System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector>Default Audio Sink>ESD>Test work correctly?
[04:55] <iceman> well checked this link .. no help .. did not fix my resolution problem ...http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:55] <carthik> djgomez33, try sudo iwlist
[04:55] <carthik> djgomez33, the graphical networking management tool should list them in the drop down list, too.
[04:55] <iceman> what else to get a higher resolution
[04:55] <danko123456> well, xyzx, first, I will tell you about tar xzvf filename, that is right away for what you did with the two steps there.
[04:55] <kroc> damn computers ruined my life.
[04:55] <tritium> iceman, did you specify new HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[04:56] <kroc> but they also made it less painful.
[04:56] <iceman> it detects my monitor ...
[04:56] <Unintentional> crimsun, yeah it works fine.
[04:56] <iceman> by name
[04:56] <danko123456> xyzx: do you mind removing everything up tp the point where you downloaded the file?
[04:56] <amonkey> i have vlc set as the plugin of choice on firefox, how do i make it display controls?
[04:56] <tritium> iceman, please paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin
[04:56] <IIIEars_> creating a boot.lnx file and using the windows loader for linux would be just plain wrong. - lol
[04:56] <iceman> link to pastbin plz
[04:57] <xyzx> danko123456, I do not mind removing!
[04:57] <tritium> iceman, http://pastebin.com/
[04:57] <tritium> iceman, please use my nick, so I see your messages  to me
[04:57] <danko123456> xyzx: then do so, and after that, tar xvzf filename.
[04:57] <xyzx> danko123456, shall I just purge all exept downloaded file?
[04:57] <crimsun> Unintentional: see the sound preferences for totem. Perhaps it's attempting a parameter that fails with your hardware.
[04:57] <danko123456> right, that sounds right.
[04:58] <hybrid_goth> does mplayer play ogg theora?
[04:58] <crimsun> hybrid_goth: yes
[04:58] <Unintentional> crimsun: no, that seems alright.  the only listed audio option is the output type, which is appropriately set at stereo.
[04:58] <djgomez33> carthik how do you get to graphical networking management tool?
[04:59] <iceman> tritium k ... sec .. huge file
[04:59] <appleworkitbaby> Right...so I was just attempting to install Ubuntu on my external HD (on a Mac) and it wouldn't install Yaboot Bootloader...what should I do?
[04:59] <tritium> iceman, okay, thanks
[04:59] <crimsun> Unintentional: do sound files play normally?
[04:59] <IIIEars_> grub-install root_device= hda some_command= one_more_command=   ?????
[04:59] <Unintentional> crimsun: yeah.  I'm not having any trouble with audio, really.  just video.
[04:59] <carthik> djgomez33, System ->Administration ->Networking. I think it was the first thing I mentioned when we started :)
[04:59] <hybrid_goth> crimsun: ok tyu
[04:59] <danko123456> xyzx: once you have only that file, then tar xzvf it.
[04:59] <appleworkitbaby> IIIEars_ on a mac?
[04:59] <danko123456> and change to its folder.
[05:00] <inva|id> how would I kill esd (and restart it later)
[05:00] <iceman> tritium wow ... http://pastebin.com/290507
[05:00] <IIIEars_> I wish. the G5 makes me drool.
[05:00] <crimsun> Unintentional: sorry, misread your question
[05:00] <tritium> iceman, checking...
[05:00] <danko123456> appleworkitbaby: it is a complex process, did you google?
[05:00] <crimsun> Unintentional: what types of files are you trying to play?
[05:00] <djgomez33> carthik: yes it was, i have that windo up, i just wanted to make sure I was on the same page, thats how I knew they were active, under what tab will it sho the available networks
[05:00] <danko123456> dvds
[05:00] <glick> about how long does an ubuntu install take?
[05:00] <glick> i think ima go n do it right now
[05:00] <danko123456> glick, 30 minuts.
[05:00] <appleworkitbaby> yes...
[05:00] <appleworkitbaby> I coudn't find anything..
[05:00] <glick> danko123456, damn that long?
[05:00] <Unintentional> crimsun: I've tested an mpg.  the audio plays, the video doesn't.  on a DVD, it freezes up altogether.
[05:00] <crimsun> glick: there are a number of factors, namely Internet connection speed, computer speed, etc.
[05:00] <IIIEars_> glick - about 30 mins
[05:00] <appleworkitbaby> I don't mind manually booting...by going through OpenFirmware..
[05:01] <glick> danko123456, what is the expert install method?
[05:01] <appleworkitbaby> but...I don't know exactly how to...
[05:01] <appleworkitbaby> :D
[05:01] <appleworkitbaby> so, if you could explain that..
[05:01] <crimsun> Unintentional: did you follow the directions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[05:01] <danko123456> can you google again? it is supposed to have a small partition at the front of the hard drive to be able to install the yaboot, it is supposed to be new world fs.
[05:01] <appleworkitbaby> it would be fine...
[05:01] <glick> does that allow me to choose a different desktop?
[05:01] <glick> or minimal install or pick and choose what i want on there?
[05:01] <Varanger> I am using Ubuntu Hoary and I can't make my i915 card work
[05:01] <Varanger> does anyone have it ?
[05:01] <danko123456> appleworkitbaby: I havent done it in long, I dont know if I could tell you the proper procedure.
[05:01] <IIIEars_> 2.8g 750mgs ram - watch out for the gub loader gotcha it doesn't work correctly for anything but a single linux OS install.
[05:02] <appleworkitbaby> I have a partition for Bootloader..
[05:02] <xyzx> danko123456,  got this message gzip: stdin: not in gzip format,  tar: Child returned status 1
[05:02] <appleworkitbaby> thats why I couldn't figure out why it wasn't installing
[05:02] <danko123456> paste, please onto pastebin.
[05:02] <djgomez33> carthik: yes it was, i have that windo up, i just wanted to make sure I was on the same page, thats how I knew they were active, under what tab will it sho the available networks
[05:02] <glick> does the advanced setup give me more flexibility?
[05:02] <iceman> tritium glad you understand that ...
[05:02] <danko123456> xyzx: you need the .tar.gz file in the folder, thats it.
[05:02] <glick> cause i dont want/need everything installed
[05:02] <appleworkitbaby> it simply won't install..
[05:02] <tritium> iceman, it's failing to read your monitor's specs correctly (see lines 365-367).  You'll need to specify them explicitly.
[05:03] <inva|id> how do i kill esd
[05:03] <danko123456> xyzx: there is a no-ip client in apt-get.
[05:03] <crimsun> inva|id: pkill esd
[05:03] <tritium> pkill esd, inva|id
[05:03] <tritium> heh
[05:03] <inva|id> ty
[05:03] <IIIEars_> glick - "expert" - scarey you will need a lot of linux knowledge to describe the proper modules to load.
[05:03] <xyzx> danko123456, can I apt-get it you mean?
[05:03] <iceman> tritum line 366 thats my monitor ...
[05:03] <usaf_sp> Does anyone know why totem will not play a dvd under ubuntu?
[05:04] <tritium> iceman, yep - see that the EDID read failed?
[05:04] <danko123456> xyzx: let me find it.
[05:04] <iceman> yea ... how to fix ?
[05:04] <xyzx> danko123456, appreciate it
[05:04] <iceman> tritium how to fix ?
[05:04] <tritium> iceman, I sent you a URL...
[05:04] <iceman> bookmarked ...
[05:04] <djgomez33> carthik: yes it was, i have that windo up, i just wanted to make sure I was on the same page, thats how I knew they were active, under what tab will it sho the available networks
[05:04] <carthik> djgomez33, select the wireless interface, and then click on the "Properties" button
[05:04] <danko123456> xyzx: sudo apt-get install no-ip :)
[05:04] <iceman> tritium i'll run the config again
[05:04] <tritium> iceman, you'll need to explicitly list your HorizSync and VertRefresh
[05:05] <iceman> brb
[05:05] <carthik> djgomez33, then you should see the ESSID dropdown menu
[05:05] <tritium> iceman, hold on
[05:05] <MistaED> does anyone know of a good free virus scanner for linux? to detect windows viruses....
[05:05] <Varanger> MistaED: clamav
[05:05] <MistaED> thanks
[05:05] <IIIEars_> MistaED, clam av or fprot.
[05:05] <djgomez33> carthik: I do, and apparently its no recognizing my router then
[05:05] <terje> anyone have any experience watching video in ascii mode with VideoLan?
[05:06] <danko123456> xyzx: here is a intro to compiling from source: http://pastebin.com/290509 .
[05:06] <i3dmaste1> anyone using 2.6.12 kernel image? any suggestion on that? Im wondering if I need to upgrade
[05:06] <crimsun> the 2.6.12 in breezy/universe works fine
[05:07] <i3dmaste1> crimsun: ok great! Thanks
[05:07] <crimsun> (do not upgrade if you aren't ready for headaches!)
[05:07] <crimsun> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[05:07] <danko123456> :)
[05:07] <IIIEars_> underlined - lol
[05:07] <i3dmaste1> crimsun: I've had so much on 2.6.10-5
[05:07] <Unintentional> crimsun: thanks a bunch.
[05:07] <i3dmaste1> crimsun: I cannot even bootup
[05:07] <xyzx> danko123456, Got this message now http://pastebin.com/290512
[05:07] <crimsun> Unintentional: got it going?
[05:08] <Unintentional> a lot closer too, certainly.  I need to configure some stuff, but I think I know what to do from here.
[05:08] <djgomez33> carthik: think i am getting somewhere, tried powering off my router, now i see options
[05:08] <appleworkitbaby> it's probably best to install Ubuntu on the Main HD, and Mac OS X on the external..
[05:08] <appleworkitbaby> :(
[05:08] <danko123456> xyzx, paste your sources.list.
[05:08] <r0d> is their a "windows washer" type program for linux? something that deletes files in DoD standard?
[05:09] <tritium> r0d, perhaps wipe
[05:09] <iratsu> how do different filesystems compare nowadays?
[05:09] <xyzx> danko123456, in which dir was source list?
[05:09] <danko123456> xyzx: /etc/apt
[05:09] <r0d> tritium,  that just wipes slack space right?
[05:10] <appleworkitbaby> why, when attempting to install Kubuntu, or Ubuntu 5.04, do I get a mutliseat error?
[05:10] <appleworkitbaby> multiseat
[05:10] <tritium> r0d, I don't think so.  see apt-cache show wipe
[05:10] <djgomez33> carthik: how can i get it to find the IP automatically?
[05:10] <danko123456> why is my music still not playing:-p
[05:10] <xyzx> danko123456, http://pastebin.com/290513
[05:10] <danko123456> xyzx: did you get the pastebin for compiling from source?
[05:10] <IIIEars_> If i don't get some help with grub i am going to use NTLOADER (Microsoft - ew) to boot Ubuntu. - Please keep good hardware from going bad.
[05:10] <thechitowncubs> What can I use to create a .html of my Music Library so people can view my collection?
[05:11] <iceman> well that sucks
[05:11] <tritium> thechitowncubs, have you tried gnump3d?
[05:11] <danko123456> xyzx: comment out the debian, uncomment universe.
[05:11] <xyzx> danko123456, OK
[05:11] <thechitowncubs> Never heard of it
[05:11] <iceman> tritium well that did not seem to work
[05:11] <danko123456> and, stop using php highlighting:-p
[05:11] <thechitowncubs> ill give it a search
[05:11] <tritium> iceman, you specified HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[05:11] <danko123456> I want music...:)
[05:12] <danko123456> not that anything can be done...
[05:12] <iceman> sec ..
[05:12] <IIIEars_> I'll do it i swear i will.. - Don't make me. - grin
[05:12] <djgomez33> carthik: how can i get it to find the IP automatically?
[05:12] <dcraven> IIIEars_: You wouldn't.
[05:12] <iceman> tritium where that config file located ...
[05:12] <Amaranth> smeg is really quick now :)
[05:12] <IIIEars_> I am a desperate man. no telling how far i will go to get my Ubuntu fix.
[05:12] <carthik> djgomez33, IP?
[05:13] <carthik> djgomez33, use dhcp
[05:13] <Amaranth> just have to wait for the pyxdg dev to wake up, accept my patch, and release the new version before i can release it :)
[05:13] <tritium> iceman, /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's listed i the URL I sent you)
[05:13] <carthik> djgomez33, from among the options, that is
[05:13] <danko123456> IIIEars_: :) hey, um...what are you doing, tho, I still dont nknow.
[05:13] <danko123456> is ubuntu installed?
[05:13] <thechitowncubs> tritium: that looks neat, I was looking of more of a .html playlist or something where people could just scroll through
[05:13] <iceman> tritium one i loaded and pasted
[05:13] <tritium> iceman, no, that was /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:13] <iceman> i ran the config file in the url
[05:13] <tritium> thechitowncubs, oh, okay
[05:14] <IIIEars_> I would like to use my larger 120g drive 2 hdb for Ubuntu (entire) and drive one hda for windows.
[05:14] <thechitowncubs> Any ideas?
[05:14] <danko123456> Crimsun, last night you told me to kill esd, will sudo killall esd do the trick, I cant remember if I killed it in another way, my OSS application cant open sound device.
[05:14] <crimsun> danko123456: no need for sudo
[05:14] <djgomez33> carthik: what is the differenc between eth1 and wif0
[05:15] <danko123456> crimsun: ok, great, but still, it is killed, and yet, the OSS app cant open s. device, and I did check if anything was using it, and nothing is.
[05:15] <ChinaCatJones> under multimedia systems selector what setting should I be using?  OSS. ALSA, Artsd ESD?
[05:15] <tritium> iceman, look up your monitor specs, edit the config file accordingly, and restart kdm
[05:15] <IIIEars_> grub-install root_device=hda another_command=? some_other_stuff=?
[05:15] <tritium> ChinaCatJones, esd
[05:15] <crimsun> danko123456: lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[05:16] <iceman> tritium whats the pastbin link .. i need to bookmark it ...
[05:16] <nalioth> later, y'all
[05:16] <danko123456> sh
[05:16] <danko123456> ah]
[05:16] <xyzx> danko123456, does my sources.list look ok now before I install anything? http://pastebin.com/290517
[05:16] <IIIEars_> Take care nalioth :)
[05:16] <tritium> iceman, pastebin.com
[05:16] <ells> tritium: Mike, what is up
[05:16] <tritium> ells, hi Steve.  what's new?
[05:16] <ChinaCatJones> cool, my sound got all funkied up by the microphone in a webcam
[05:16] <danko123456> snd_pcm_oss            47652  0 is what I get:)
[05:16] <ells> not alot, just doing job searching
[05:17] <danko123456> yeah, looks ok for now...
[05:17] <danko123456> xyzx: ^
[05:17] <iceman> file looks ok ... i believe the problem is with kde ...
[05:17] <ells> tritium: I got an offer to teach at the school hourse
[05:17] <ells> house
[05:17] <tritium> ells, I wish the best for you.  I take it you did not hear good news from T?
[05:17] <iceman> tritium ... http://pastebin.com/290518
[05:17] <tritium> ells, congratulations
[05:18] <tritium> iceman, is there something new there?
[05:18] <danko123456> crimsun: snd_pcm_oss            47652  0 is what I get :)
[05:18] <geneo93> Iceman in kde control center you can change res
[05:18] <crimsun> danko123456: what app are you attempting to use?
[05:18] <MistaED> oh, captive-ntfs is incompatible with amd64 even with chroot? :(
[05:18] <iceman> tritium yea ... new one
[05:19] <iceman> gene093 only lets me chose 320 or 640 ... nothing higher
[05:19] <tritium> iceman, what did you change?  It's still not detecting your monitor's rates.   It is a dj mixing tool, something for playing music...
[05:19] <danko123456> I liek a song, that is too fast, so I have to slow it down.
[05:19] <geneo93> hmmm
[05:19] <xyzx> danko123456, I changed the sources.list I wonder if it is ok? what do you think? http://pastebin.com/290517
[05:19] <_kevin> i need ices2 2.0.1 but when i do apt-get install ices2 it installs 2.0.0
[05:19] <danko123456> yup, it is fine, I told you.
[05:19] <crimsun> _kevin: why do you need 2.0.1?
[05:19] <iceman> tritium shoot ... what lines you see it not detecting them in
[05:20] <tritium> iceman, 372-374
[05:20] <danko123456> crimsun: something that worked fine last night, after you told me to kill esd. It is a dj mixing tool, something for playing music... I liek a song, that is too fast, so I have to slow it down.:)
[05:20] <djgomez33> carthik: ok now this is starting to frustrate the heck out of me, i disabled my encryption, broadcasted my ssid, and it still won't find a website, could there be another problem
[05:20] <tritium> iceman, please paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:20] <danko123456> sorry about the repeats, just not sure if you saw it, cause I forgot the nick.
[05:20] <crimsun> danko123456: does it work with the alsa wrapper?
[05:20] <iceman> tritium humm ill try to run the config again .. i specified everything ..
[05:20] <_kevin> i need it casue the guy who made it told me i need it
[05:20] <crimsun> (aoss nameofapp&)
[05:21] <_kevin> he's helping me set up
[05:21] <danko123456> I dont know:) It worked last night, for some reason, maybe I did something...Ill try that right now.
[05:21] <tritium> iceman, no, you have to edit the file and specify specific HorizSync and VertRefresh
[05:21] <crimsun> _kevin: "made it"?
[05:21] <_kevin> ye
[05:21] <_kevin> KarlH
[05:21] <carthik> djgomez33, nothing I can think of really
[05:21] <crimsun> _kevin: both of those packages are in universe
[05:21] <carthik> djgomez33, have you selected the right essid?
[05:21] <crimsun> _kevin: use the universe versions
[05:21] <_kevin> how do i do that in the termial?
[05:21] <danko123456> dbernar1@veliki:~ $ (aoss mixxx&)    \n   bash: aoss: command not found
[05:21] <darGor> what's aptitude?
[05:21] <crimsun> _kevin: aptitude install icecast2 ices2
[05:22] <crimsun> danko123456: aptitude install alsa-oss
[05:22] <danko123456> xyzx: hope you got the message that it looks ok:)
[05:22] <djgomez33> carthik: yeah its even automatically doing it for me when I plug my card in, i set all the fields empty and unchecked device configured, it automatically finds my router but still won't let me view a web page
[05:22] <crimsun> darGor: apt-cache show aptitude (don't flood)
[05:22] <xyzx> danko123456, :) thanks
[05:22] <_kevin> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:22] <_kevin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:23] <crimsun> _kevin: use sudo
[05:23] <danko123456> welcome. let me know once it is installed, and that.
[05:23] <_kevin> i did and it's still 2.0.0
[05:23] <danko123456> :) I got same error, but it is descriptive ienough.
[05:23] <darGor> crimsun: thanks. so, aptitude is a graphically apt. right?
[05:23] <tritium> iceman, ?
[05:24] <iceman> tritium yea
[05:24] <tritium> iceman, did you do as I suggested?
[05:24] <_kevin> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ices2/
[05:24] <danko123456> crimsun: ok, aoss that, gave me same error when I opened program...what could I have messed up in the meantime that it worked before, and now does not?
[05:24] <_kevin> i need to add that
[05:24] <iceman> tritium which suggestion ?
[05:24] <_kevin> ?
[05:25] <tritium> iceman, you're kidding, right?
[05:25] <crimsun> danko123456: paste all the output onto pastebin
[05:25] <iceman> tritium running the config file again .. cant read both screens .. sorrt
[05:25] <crimsun> darGor: it's just another frontend
[05:25] <danko123456> well, there is not much, but Ill get all there is.
[05:25] <rg58sma> ls
[05:26] <rg58sma> I need help
[05:26] <tritium> iceman, no, that's not what I suggested.  Please read the scrollback
[05:26] <rg58sma> with
[05:26] <rg58sma> amule
[05:26] <iceman> tritium what to add to the line to set it correctly ..
[05:26] <rg58sma> plz someone help mne
[05:27] <tritium> iceman, do you know your monitor's specs?
[05:27] <iceman> not right off ... but 85 mhz should run fine
[05:28] <tritium> rg58sma, does amule have a channel?
[05:28] <danko123456> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/290520
[05:28] <flava> hola
[05:28] <danko123456> ola
[05:28] <iceman> tritium what file do i edit ?
[05:28] <tritium> iceman, yikes!  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:28] <flava> hola
[05:29] <iceman> tritium xorg.conf ... ok
[05:29] <_kevin> so any one can help me
[05:29] <rg58sma> no isnt amule problem
[05:29] <danko123456> benplaut: haha...
[05:29] <rg58sma> the problem
[05:29] <rg58sma> is
[05:29] <runelind> when I put in my dvd-rom into my laptop while the OS is running, it doesn't pick up the device, is there a way to rescan the removable devices?
[05:29] <_kevin>  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ices2/ices2_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
[05:29] <rg58sma> wxwidget
[05:29] <rg58sma> problem
[05:29] <_kevin> i need ices2 2.0.1
[05:29] <djgomez33> carthik: ok i reset my laptop, now when it comes up it shows the connection at the top right of the desktop
[05:29] <runelind> this is in kubuntu
[05:29] <tritium> _kevin, rather than download the file manually, make sure you have universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <djgomez33> carthik: however it is not letting me view webpages and it isn't showing any packets sent or recieved?
[05:30] <carthik> djgomez33, so is it working now?
[05:30] <_kevin> i do gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:30] <carthik> djgomez33, that is bad configuration! does sudo iwconfig say anything silly?
[05:30] <iceman> tritium i'll past the xorg.conf in pastbin .. im lost
[05:30] <tritium> iceman, ok
[05:30] <nickrud> luckily, i have a cat
[05:31] <rg58sma> wxwidget
[05:31] <danko123456> :)_
[05:31] <danko123456> jj, I wish I had a cat.
[05:31] <djgomez33> carthik: not that i can see
[05:31] <_kevin> it's read only
[05:31] <runelind> so is there a way to rescan the removable devices?
[05:32] <rg58sma> helpme pleaze
[05:32] <geneo93> Section "Monitor" Iceman
[05:32] <danko123456> runelind: you can also try #kubuntu if noone here knows.
[05:32] <runelind> danko123456: I'll try that, thanks
[05:32] <geneo93> HorizSync 30-72  VertRefresh 50-160
[05:32] <danko123456> state your iussue, rg58sma otherwise noone will help you.
[05:33] <geneo93>
[05:33] <danko123456> benplaut: abstard, you ate?
[05:33] <iceman> tritium http://pastebin.com/290521 dont see much ..
[05:33] <tritium> iceman, you didn't specify HorizSync and VertRefresh
[05:34] <iceman> tritium does not give me a choice to specify anything ...
[05:34] <xyzx> danko123456, I can not find the conf file of no-ip
[05:34] <rg58sma> ok
[05:34] <rg58sma> fuck
[05:34] <xyzx> danko123456, Starting dynamic address update: Can't locate configuration file /etc/no-ip.conf. (Try -c). Ending!
[05:34] <danko123456> is that after you install it?
[05:34] <iceman> tritium can it be installed in a text editor ?
[05:34] <xyzx> danko123456, yeap
[05:34] <danko123456> :) youre on your own, I dont know what to do, read the docs on no-ip.
[05:34] <tritium> iceman, you edit the file (see the URL I gave you)
[05:35] <xyzx> danko123456, :) ok, you.ve great help thanks
[05:35] <iceman> tritium http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto that link
[05:35] <danko123456> :) ypuire welcome, did you get the source compilation thing on pastebin?
[05:36] <danko123456> he didnt get my post I think
[05:36] <carthik> djgomez33, I'm sorry, but there isn't much I can do to help you from afar!
[05:36] <danko123456> become root on his comp and set it up...
[05:36] <danko123456> :)
[05:37] <danko123456> I had a guy allow me root access just to install java:-/
[05:37] <geneo93> thats relly stupid
[05:37] <danko123456> he got a rpm, then aliened it...
[05:37] <danko123456> and all ebcause of pool on yahoo games:)
[05:37] <danko123456> thats what he wanted java for
[05:38] <danko123456> make your mind up...
[05:38] <djgomez33> anyone have any idea why my browser won't find any pages even though I am connected and packets are being sent and recieved?
[05:38] <danko123456> yes
[05:38] <danko123456> I am a internet trioubleshooting expert:)
[05:38] <danko123456> jj, I work for Comcast tech support.
[05:38] <djgomez33> excelent
[05:39] <danko123456> so, it comes out to the same thing;) (the ;) is for all the COmcast users here...)
[05:39] <iceman> tritium think i got it
[05:39] <djgomez33> i have been trying to configure my wireless for the last hour, and i have resorted to trying to just get my ethernet working
[05:39] <danko123456> yay
[05:39] <tritium> iceman, ok
[05:39] <danko123456> k, that is a good idea
[05:39] <iceman> there a fast way to load that besides reboot
[05:39] <danko123456> djgomez33: was it the i915?
[05:39] <psychonate> Anyone familiar with the CTRL+SHIFT+3NUM characters?
[05:39] <psychonate> Is there like a chart for those?
[05:39] <danko123456> iceman, restart x?
[05:39] <djgomez33> danko: not sure of what your refering to?
[05:40] <danko123456> ok, thats not yuor wireless then./
[05:40] <tritium> danko123456, I hope you used make-jpkg to build a .deb for him :)
[05:40] <psychonate> I need to use some spanish accents for a paper, and I don't want to have to use the insert symbol everytime in my word processor
[05:40] <danko123456> pm for a sec, dj...
[05:40] <geneo93> Iceman ctrl alt backspace
[05:40] <danko123456> tritium: :) i didnt, I didnt even use java-package:(
[05:40] <danko123456> I just did a normal isntall
[05:40] <djgomez33> danko: the connection i have is called lo and it is sending and receiving
[05:40] <danko123456> like a totally standard, install of java onto unix.
[05:41] <tritium> danko123456, :(  (btw, make-jpkg is provided in java-package)
[05:41] <danko123456> *nix, to be PC
[05:41] <Rob2687> lo is the local connection
[05:41] <danko123456> tritium, I should learn the java-package way:)
[05:41] <tritium> danko123456, at least you helped him out :)
[05:41] <djgomez33> danko: yes, i am connected through a local connection to my router, however i can not view any web pages
[05:42] <danko123456> well, at least I didnt erase his hard dtrive,...:))
[05:42] <danko123456> that was the start case, I geuss,.
[05:42] <danko123456> Then other follow...
[05:42] <nickrud> danko123456, I'm interested, jpkg is pretty useful
[05:42] <danko123456> nickrud: what:)
[05:42] <danko123456> in waht, i gues..
[05:43] <danko123456> sorry for tyos, I cant type.
[05:43] <nickrud> java, I guess
[05:43] <djgomez33> danko123456: so if I am connected to the local connection, what is mozilla not finding any web pages
[05:43] <danko123456> so...I dont get your message from this:  I'm interested, jpkg is pretty useful"
[05:43] <nickrud> danko123456, nm, I scrolled bery baddly
[05:43] <danko123456> ah...
[05:43] <danko123456> kk
[05:43] <danko123456> pm, dj
[05:43] <danko123456> for a sec
[05:44] <danko123456> so I can stop flooding ehre:)
[05:44] <xb> ah ha.  i am proxy enabled.
[05:44] <crimsun> danko123456: lsmod|grep ^snd_seq
[05:45] <iceman> tritium awsom .. manualy changed the file ... upped the range it offered from 75 to 85 and it worked ... thanks .. millions
[05:45] <danko123456> crimsun: :) I did:) showed you:)
[05:45] <danko123456> omg...
[05:45] <tritium> iceman, you're welcome :)
[05:45] <iceman> is superkaramba avaible from aptitude ?
[05:45] <psychonate> Can anyone tell me how to easily insert accents when typing?
[05:45] <dub2> Hi - I installed privoxy; where do I put the sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy start... ie, what's the equivalent of autoexec.bat?
[05:46] <danko123456> Iceman: excellent, as they say...
[05:46] <crimsun> danko123456: hmm, where?
[05:46] <danko123456> k, sorry
[05:46] <tritium> dub2, that will be run on every boot.  You don't need to add it to another init script
[05:46] <danko123456> now nothing
[05:46] <danko123456> there was something
[05:47] <crimsun> ok, I may need more info if this doesn't work: sudo modprobe snd-seq && sudo modprobe snd-seq-oss
[05:47] <dub2> ok I'll reboot to verify
[05:47] <iceman> looks like superkaramba is not available ..
[05:47] <iceman> not with apitute
[05:48] <IcemanV9> iceman: write it down for next time (if ever to rebuild the box :)
[05:48] <danko123456> crimsun: if you really want to fix it, thanks a lot, if not, I could try something simpler if it is complicated to figure out...
[05:48] <iceman> true ..
[05:48] <danko123456> ?
[05:48] <nickrud> iceman, in synaptic, press control f, you can search there
[05:48] <tritium> iceman, it's in universe
[05:49] <IcemanV9> iceman: believe me .. i took a lot of notes when i first started learning about unix .. it helped me a lot when i rebuild the box
[05:49] <danko123456> crimsun: I wanted to play music, thats all, Ill play it at the speed the guy sings for now, I guess:)
[05:49] <IcemanV9> iceman: anyway, enjoy your new resolution!
[05:49] <crimsun> danko123456: did you try what I suggested?
[05:49] <iceman> looking for synaptic ... ?
[05:50] <nickrud> heh
[05:50] <iceman> package manager ?
[05:50] <tritium> iceman, do you have universe repositories enabled?
[05:50] <danko123456> interestingly enough, it did not work:)
[05:50] <IcemanV9> iceman: are u using kde? then look for kynaptic
[05:50] <danko123456> hm...
[05:50] <danko123456> I figured out after I read it to the end that it would work..and nothing:)
[05:50] <tritium> apt-cache policy superkaramba should indicate that it's in universe, iceman.  If not, you need to enabled universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:52] <iceman> found synaptic ... lol ..
[05:53] <benplaut> ^^  :rollesayes:
[05:53] <crimsun> danko123456: did you install the binary via the perl script?
[05:53] <crimsun> danko123456: or did you compile it?
[05:54] <iceman> running updates now to start ...
[05:54] <danko123456> crimsun: it was working 3 hours ago.
[05:54] <rg58sma> gtk is Gimp  Tool Kit??
[05:54] <crimsun> danko123456: did you compile it?
[05:54] <danko123456> rebooted,...I always dfo a million things between treboots, and could not tell you what could have broken it...too many things.
[05:55] <tritium> rg58sma, yes
[05:55] <rg58sma> ok thanks
[05:55] <danko123456> crimsun: which, sorry, I missed it.
[05:55] <phoenixp3k> Hi, got a question about "sessions"
[05:55] <crimsun> danko123456: mixxx
[05:55] <danko123456> I prolly recompiled my kernel and never noticed...prolly a installer file.
[05:55] <danko123456> is there a apt-get one?
[05:55] <danko123456> :)
[05:55] <crimsun> not afaik
[05:56] <crimsun> by default only oss is enabled for Linux
[05:56] <danko123456> is there any other like that eat one?
[05:56] <Peps> When I installed kubuntu, not too long ago - when I inserted a cd-rom an icon would popup on the desktop. After a kde update this nice functionality is gone. Anyone knows why?
[05:56] <rg58sma> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
[05:56] <danko123456> eat:)
[05:56] <rg58sma> ???
[05:56] <phoenixp3k> Is there a way to maintain a user logged in while an other uses his account "Windows XP" style
[05:56] <crimsun> you have to compile in alsa and/or jack support
[05:56] <rg58sma> how to solution this problem??
[05:56] <danko123456> I guess.
[05:56] <danko123456> but it worked 3 hours ago.
[05:56] <danko123456> damn thing.
[05:56] <danko123456> Ill se.
[05:56] <crimsun> danko123456: try nuking ~/.mixxx ( or whatever its config dir is )
[05:57] <eonia> _kevin, still here?
[05:57] <tritium> phoenixp3k, yes, Applications->System Tools->New Login, and then you can fast-switch with Ctrl-Alt-F7 and F8
[05:57] <danko123456> crimsun: Ill nuke it:)
[05:57] <phoenixp3k> tritium, thanks I'll look at it
[05:57] <tritium> phoenixp3k, cool, and there should be a fast-user-switch applet in breezy to make it even easier
[05:58] <rg58sma> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
[05:58] <rg58sma> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[05:58] <dicrapio> new to ubuntu, well kubuntu, but wanted to know, all was well for a few days but now i dont have admin privileges with normal user. any thoughts?
[05:58] <rg58sma> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[05:58] <rg58sma> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[05:58] <rg58sma> configure: error:
[05:58] <rg58sma> The development files for GTK+ were not found. For GTK+ 2, please
[05:58] <phoenixp3k> tritium, breezy?
[05:58] <rg58sma> ensure that pkg-config is in the path and that gtk+-2.0.pc is
[05:58] <rg58sma> installed. For GTK+ 1.2 please check that gtk-config is in the path,
[05:58] <danko123456> yay:)
[05:58] <rg58sma> and that the version is 1.2.3 or above. Also check that the
[05:58] <rg58sma> libraries returned by 'pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --libs' or 'gtk-config
[05:58] <rg58sma> --libs' are in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or equivalent.
[05:58] <danko123456> man, you rule:)
[05:58] <tritium> rg58sma, sounds like you didn't install libgtk2.0-dev
[05:58] <rg58sma> how to install this??
[05:59] <tritium> rg58sma, with synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get
[05:59] <phoenixp3k> An other question
[05:59] <danko123456> rg58sma: try putting it onto http://pastebin.com too, its easier to read..
[05:59] <phoenixp3k> is there a way to set a user without a password
[05:59] <rg58sma> apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[05:59] <rg58sma> ok I'm sorry
[06:00] <eonia> _kevin, hopefully you're still alive and will get this later. In regards to your earlier questions about NTFS, you need to use the wrapper over ntfs.sys (windows file) for full support. It's called Captive; check out this URL http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[06:00] <danko123456> Im sorry too:)
[06:00] <tritium> good night, crimsun
[06:00] <danko123456> mixxx works....:)
[06:00] <crimsun> night tritium
[06:00] <iceman> well how to turm on additional respositories  ..
[06:01] <danko123456> phoenix_atlantis: come on...
[06:01] <iceman> dang ...
[06:01] <danko123456> good luck with that phoenix...
[06:01] <danko123456> :)
[06:01] <danko123456> set a user without a password...
[06:01] <IcemanV9> iceman: settings > respositories
[06:02] <rg58sma> thanks
[06:02] <Peps> ANyone has an idea?
[06:02] <jevidl> has anyone gotten RealPlayer 10 working?
[06:03] <danko123456> peps, still using kde?
[06:03] <Peps> yes
[06:03] <danko123456> jevidl: yeah, I did on windows.
[06:03] <iceman> whats the current version of kde on ubuntu ?
[06:03] <jevidl> danko123456: on ubuntu perhaps?
[06:03] <Peps> 3.4.0
[06:03] <danko123456> peps, you can also try #kubuntu...but, in gnome, there is a configuration for the nautilus, teh desktop program...
[06:03] <iceman> ty
[06:04] <danko123456> jevidl: serious?
[06:04] <jevidl> danko123456: yeah.
[06:04] <Peps> I just wonder why an upfate would kill it. Also my trash Icon is gone. Maybe other stuff as well
[06:04] <jevidl> danko123456: I got it installed with the binary, but for some reason when I try to launch it's not quite getting to a GUI
[06:05] <danko123456> jevidl: why this again?
[06:05] <danko123456> like, why are you installing that?
[06:05] <jevidl> danko123456: there's a better solution for playing realmedia content?
[06:05] <danko123456> well, his desktop was not displaying icons./
[06:05] <psychonate> Does anyone know how to use dead keys?
[06:06] <danko123456> jevidl: yeah... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <rg58sma> how to use Evolution with Hotmail
[06:06] <danko123456> jevidl: I use xine-ui
[06:06] <Peps> got disconnected. might have missed some replies
[06:06] <jevidl> danko123456: ok
[06:06] <iceman> how to install rpms in ubuntu ?
[06:06] <jevidl> danko123456: I will go check it out
[06:07] <danko123456> Iceman, why?
[06:07] <danko123456> ok, you do that":)
[06:08] <danko123456> realplayer in ubuntu, that has to go into my distro list...
[06:08] <Burgundavia> danko123456, with w32codecs, totem-xine can play realplayer stuff
[06:08] <danko123456> I play it:)
[06:08] <danko123456> along with adobe acrobat, internet explorer through wine, um...vlc,
[06:09] <concept10> ie through wine?
[06:09] <danko123456> what else did I have in my distro?
[06:09] <danko123456> or something, nman
[06:09] <danko123456> totally like that...
[06:09] <danko123456> I am making a distro.
[06:09] <danko123456> bah
[06:09] <concept10> contribute to another distro instead of making one
[06:10] <xb> hm whats this kubuntu i see?
[06:10] <concept10> rg58sma: does hotmail support POP3 or IMAP?
[06:10] <rg58sma> i dont no
[06:10] <rg58sma> know
[06:10] <danko123456> nah, I am making one with realplayer, vlc, adobe acrobat, open office:-p...
[06:11] <danko123456> rg58sma: which file, what are yo installing?
[06:11] <danko123456> you can make debs out of rpms, with alien
[06:11] <IcemanV9> xb: ubuntu with kde (instead of gnome)
[06:11] <xb> lol.  how creative ;)
[06:11] <danko123456> rg58sma: htere is nothing really to use...
[06:11] <concept10> rg58sma: look it up..setting evolution up is similar to setting up outlook...look it up in hotmail help
[06:11] <IIIEars_> danko -YE-ES! ain't it cool
[06:12] <danko123456> I would like to say it is, but my life sucks:)
[06:12] <rg58sma> ok
[06:12] <dicrapio> new to ubuntu, well kubuntu, but wanted to know, all was well for a few days but now i dont have admin privileges with normal user. any thoughts?
[06:12] <IIIEars_> danko - just think how awful it might be... - you could be a windows user. - grin
[06:13] <NicP> thats a good thing dicrapio
[06:13] <dicrapio> :(
[06:14] <xb> dicrapio thats pretty wierd.  almost as weird as not being able to login as root on my box
[06:14] <dicrapio> yup
[06:14] <NicP> was that a joke xb?
[06:14] <dicrapio> the only thing different i did i can think of was deleting those links in media for floppy and cdrom
[06:15] <NicP> ?
[06:15] <xb> nic, about not being able to login as root?  no
[06:15] <NicP> why did u do that
[06:15] <NicP> xb: yes
[06:15] <xb> it was more a misconception tho
[06:15] <NicP> ohh ok
[06:15] <NicP> :P
[06:15] <NicP> so you understand now then?
[06:15] <dicrapio> what was the point, theres the folder for floppy and cdrom right there
[06:16] <NicP> lol
[06:16] <dicrapio> no need for links to them :)
[06:16] <danko123456> IIIEars_: :)
[06:16] <xb> well, i dont know if i understand the concept behind it.  but i can operate with su privs if that's what you mean
[06:16] <dicrapio> i did, but not anymore for some reason
[06:16] <rg58sma> ok
[06:16] <NicP> dicrapio,  right where?
[06:17] <dicrapio> in media
[06:17] <xb> nicp, is it a problem that i can type "su" then a password on this linux distro?
[06:17] <eonia> can someone tell me how to make allow a user to change permissions of the mounted drive (it's currently read only, so chmod 555 as root does *not* work). I edited /etc/fstab and added the following line: /dev/hda1 /localdrive ntfs user 0 0
[06:17] <eonia>     any ideas?
[06:17] <xb> can't i mean
[06:17] <eonia> the ultimate goal is for the user to view the hda1, right now only root can
[06:18] <eonia> make == allow
[06:18] <eonia> and I might add, the addition to fstab didn't help
[06:19] <bystander> eonia:  add for example  uid=1000 gid=1000
[06:19] <bystander> and maybe change user to users
[06:19] <eonia> add uid=1000 to the end?
[06:20] <bystander> in the part where you have "user'
[06:20] <NicP> xb: thats normal, you are supposed to use sudo
[06:20] <MegaManX> Hi there all! I've a question :) Is anybody good with Samba? (not the Brazilian dance, the server and the client)
[06:20] <xb> ok.  momment of doubt :D
[06:20] <NicP> xb: its because root isnt enabled by default, which i'm sure you have learnt already
[06:20] <bystander> eonia: comma separated of course
[06:21] <eonia> bystander: ok, will give it a shot. thanks
[06:21] <xb> ive seen as much :)  i kind of like it.  but i dont know if i see the purpose.  especially typing sudo for some applications require a password, as others do it without.
[06:21] <rg58sma> have a linux distro no free??
[06:21] <xb> im sure this will lead to a security flaw somewhere.. whenever i check into it
[06:22] <NicP> ive never seen an application not want a password for sudo
[06:22] <IIIEars_> Wow! what is Sun port:32773 doing open on my machine?
[06:22] <NicP> unless you have put it in already of course
[06:22] <xb> not even aptitude?
[06:22] <bystander> eonia:  or try for instance /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 0
[06:22] <bystander> assuming you don't want it to mount on boot
[06:23] <NicP> ive never used aptitude
[06:23] <xb> because after closing aptitude, it shouldnt remember my password (unless my logic is off)
[06:23] <eonia> bystander: forgive my ignorance, but ro / umask=022 refers to...?
[06:23] <xb> i need to find where it storing this password.  take care of this lil issue
[06:23] <bystander> read only
[06:23] <NicP> if you close the terminal window it should forget
[06:23] <bystander> bystander: umask 022 translates to read only for group and others
[06:23] <xb> eh?
[06:24] <goldfish> it does?
[06:24] <NicP> i believe you only have to put it in once per terminal window
[06:24] <xb> i kinda would like it to forget before then.  because if it remembers, that means it stored somewhere
[06:24] <goldfish> you put it in once, you dont have to put it in for 5 minutes
[06:24] <goldfish> in THAT terminal
[06:24] <goldfish> afaik
[06:24] <NicP> in ram?
[06:24] <xb> hm.
[06:24] <glick> hi all i just installed  ubuntu
[06:24] <bystander> IIIEars_: probably something to do with rpc (portmapper)
[06:24] <goldfish> hu glick
[06:24] <glick> and i have a couple of Q's
[06:25] <NicP> goldfish, thanks, that sounds right
[06:25] <goldfish> np
[06:25] <IIIEars_> bystander - i gotta stop reading those eeye security links - ;)
[06:25] <glick> how do i make it so that sudo doesnt last for 15 minutes without needing a password
[06:25] <xb> goldfish, do you know where it stores the password?  im going to make sure i cant access it from another added account
[06:25] <danko123456> hey I fixed a guys internet connection:)
[06:25] <Burgundavia> glick, set the timeout to 0
[06:26] <xb> good for you danko :)
[06:26] <IIIEars_> bystander, should'a used a bootable CD for 'em.
[06:26] <glick> Burgundavia, where do i set that?
[06:26] <goldfish> xb: the sudo password?
[06:26] <goldfish> no idea
[06:26] <danko123456> xb, hey thanks.
[06:26] <Burgundavia> glick, google how to do it, in /etc/sudoers
[06:26] <NicP> why does it have to store the password anyway
[06:26] <goldfish> is it on ubuntuguide.org?
[06:27] <NicP> it could just remember that you have entered the password, not the actual password
[06:27] <goldfish> yeah
[06:27] <MegaManX> ok. Here is the situation. I have two Ubuntu boxes, one WinXP and one Xbox on the same network. Ubuntu1 works as ftp server, file server(Samba) and webserver. Ubuntu2 is the computer I use as desktop, WinXP as a gaming crappy machine and Xbox as my media box. I can access all files from my Xbox located on Ubuntu1 and play videos, music, etc. I can also access all files from my Ubuntu1(server) with my Ubuntu2 (desktop), but unlike my Xbo
[06:27] <MegaManX> x, I'm not able to execute them localy. I can't, for example, play an mp3 file from the server with my desktop. Accessing the Windows shares (WinXP) gives the same problem: I can modify any file, copy anything but not play media localy. I can, without a problem, from my Xbox. What should I do?
[06:27] <goldfish> glick: www.ubuntuguide.org , think its on that
[06:27] <xb> nicp, either way it doesnt seem to add up.  im goin to see if i can find a hole.
[06:27] <NicP> lol good luck
[06:27] <goldfish> i dont think u will
[06:27] <danko123456> MegaManX: you are joking?
[06:27] <goldfish> tbh
[06:28] <Peps> There is a new kernel 2.6.10-34.1. ANyone can tell me what it fixes and is it important to upgrade?
[06:28] <MegaManX> too long huh?, sorry :D
[06:28] <danko123456> MegaManX: nice setup, man!
[06:28] <NicP> i doubt it would have been included if it contains a hole, we would still be using su then
[06:28] <danko123456> not long, just sweet setup.
[06:28] <MegaManX> danko123456, thanks mate!. I wish I could get it to work though :)
[06:28] <xb> heh.  go look at any exploit archive.  software released with holes definately isnt intentional.  and not always avoidable.
[06:29] <NicP> dw i know that
[06:29] <NicP> but this definatly dosent scream security flaw to me
[06:29] <MegaManX> I know it should be better to use NFS to share files between Linux boxes, but since Samba works fine from my Xbox, I though it should work fine with Linux. It almost does, I can copy and move files from Ubuntu 1 and Ubuntu 2 through samba, just can't play/execute files from Ubuntu1 (server).
[06:29] <goldfish> go read the sudo threads on ubuntuforums
[06:30] <xb> hm.. it could be because after typing sudo, the program stays running for that long after words?
[06:30] <danko123456> MegaManX: good luck: http://pastebin.com/290540 :)
[06:31] <xb> erk.  nm i need to jus find out instead of guessing randomly :D
[06:31] <bystander> Peps: security fix AFAIK
[06:31] <NicP> i dont understand what you find "not right" about it
[06:31] <Peps> will the update come as another boot option or replace the existing one?
[06:32] <MegaManX> danko123456, Thanks a lot mate for the help mate!. Bookmarked ;)
[06:32] <bystander> Peps: I think replace ( it seems to replace it here)
[06:32] <rg58sma> where found amule
[06:33] <rg58sma> after make install
[06:33] <glick> where is xfce4? apt-cache search xfce4 doesnt yeild anything :(
[06:33] <bystander> Peps: if you have more than one kernel in grub there will be a security update for the oldones as well
[06:33] <goldfish> glick: you need to add the extra repositories
[06:33] <danko123456> MegaManX: is it like, that you just cant play media at all on a computer?
[06:33] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  watch the make install messages   :) provberly /usr/local/bin
[06:33] <goldfish> glick: have a look at the repos section on www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:33] <bystander> glick: universe repo I think
[06:33] <Peps> not too good. I would like to have a fallback option. Is that the default for kernel updates?
[06:35] <Peps> I mean can I specify somewhere to keep the 2.6.10-34 until I know the 34-1 works OK?
[06:35] <dr_willis> glick,  apt-cache search xfce fines a lot of things for me.
[06:35] <dr_willis> I have all the repro's set up :P
[06:35] <bystander> Peps: no, not if it's a major change - normally you would get a new entry
[06:35] <eob84> anyone in here use XFCE
[06:35] <goldfish> i do
[06:35] <bystander> eob84: sometimes
[06:35] <rg58sma> what is the extension of amule executable
[06:35] <eonia> bystander: having issues... going to try resetting. Brb :-)
[06:35] <dr_willis> exeutables in linux dont have extensions.
[06:35] <eob84> bystander, I can't get menuconfig to work
[06:35] <rg58sma> someone have a correct sources.list???? my file is fake???
[06:35] <beginner> hello
[06:36] <eob84> hi
[06:36] <beginner> do i need antivirus for ubuntu?
[06:36] <MegaManX> danko123456, yes, I can, but I have to copy a file from Ubuntu1(server) to my Desktop (Ubuntu2) and run locally with mplayer or xmms.
[06:36] <bystander> beginner: no
[06:36] <goldfish> beginner: not really
[06:36] <beginner> ?
[06:36] <beginner> not really?
[06:36] <goldfish> no
[06:36] <NicP> beginner: no
[06:36] <goldfish> :)
[06:36] <bystander> beginner: viruses for linux are practically non-existent
[06:36] <eonia> lol
[06:37] <beginner> and why some times is moving very very slow?
[06:37] <eonia> which entails that virus scanners are non-existant? (just asking, don't shoot me :)
[06:37] <NicP> eonia, you got it
[06:37] <bystander> beginner: moving? what do you mean?
[06:37] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  ubuntuguide.org shows a sample with all the repositories set up.
[06:37] <glick> hmm i have 1gig ram
[06:37] <MegaManX> danko123456, what I wanted to do is to have all media files at Ubuntu1(server) and be able to play anywhere from my network, without copying the files, kinda like streaming them. Xbox is the one "computer" that can play the files from the server without copying anything, simply streaming :)
[06:37] <glick> but the kern doesnt detect it all
[06:37] <glick> ubuntu have any images for high mem systems?
[06:37] <Burgundavia> eonia, they exist, but they search for windows viruses and the few linux ones that exist (those target old vulns and servers)
[06:38] <psychonate> yays, I think I got it :)
[06:38] <beginner> browsing ethernet....closing aplications...
[06:38] <eob84> how did you get a fake sources.lst?
[06:38] <psychonate> I changed my xkblayout from us to us_intl
[06:38] <MegaManX> I will grab some coffee, brb ;)
[06:38] <eob84> I think AVG is a free virus scanner for linux
[06:38] <psychonate> now, I can type some neato accentos
[06:38] <i3dmaste1> glick: as of 1g mem, you don't need high mem support I think
[06:39] <glick> i3dmaste1, no if you have 1gig and up you need high mem support
[06:39] <rg58sma> libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:39] <glick> cause my system only sees 3/4ths of a gig of ram
[06:39] <bystander> glick: you need a 686 kernel or equivalent
[06:39] <glick> Linux voyager 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:40] <glick> thats my kernel
[06:40] <bystander> glick: 386v kernels only see 896MB
[06:40] <Peps> I am running on an AMD Athlon XP. I conservativly installed the 386 kernel. Should I go for the 686 one?
[06:40] <danko123456> this guy jjust asked me how he can get an account for IRC to get onto freenode
[06:40] <danko123456> :)
[06:40] <glick> my kernel is a 686 one
[06:40] <goldfish> danko123456: lol
[06:40] <bystander> glick: apt-cache search linux-image and choose a 686 imge to install
[06:40] <goldfish> danko123456: send him to a *nice* url
[06:40] <danko123456> 23:40:03) TallrunningMan: I am trying to figure out how to add IRC ... (23:40:12) CVGDanKo: weird ... (23:40:20) CVGDanKo: go ctrl+a then add then IRC ... (23:40:42) TallrunningMan: i have to get an account
[06:40] <i3dmaste1> glick: not really, but ya 686 support high mem though
[06:41] <bystander> glick >>> 2.6.10-5-386
[06:41] <Peps> should work on the athlon? no problem?
[06:41] <rg58sma> libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:41] <bystander> you have a 386 kernel
[06:41] <Peps> right now yes an 386
[06:41] <danko123456> (23:41:46) TallrunningMan: you can change your screename at anytime?
[06:41] <i3dmaste1> glick: if you have more than 4G, then definitely you need
[06:41] <goldfish> mmmm
[06:41] <rg58sma> amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:42] <goldfish> 4gigs of ram
[06:42] <goldfish> wouldnt mind that
[06:42] <eonia> brb
[06:42] <danko123456> he likes aim:)
[06:42] <Stalagna> alrighty then
[06:42] <i3dmaste1> goldfish: I think that's the limit of 32bit system
[06:43] <bwlang> is nagios the best package for network monitoring - or should i consider others ?
[06:43] <Rameken> Hello?
[06:43] <Cybermagellan> http://hosting.cybermagellan.com
[06:43] <danko123456> Cybermagellan: :)
[06:43] <danko123456> hey, a guy was asking for exactly that today
[06:43] <rg58sma> amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:44] <danko123456> rg, can you just apt-get it?
[06:44] <danko123456> please?
[06:44] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  why did you uild it from source? why not just install the packages?
[06:44] <Rameken> I'm new to the whole boot CD thing and I don't know how to boot into the cd I just burned
[06:44] <danko123456> rg, pleae?
[06:44] <dr_willis> Rameken,  well lets hope you burnt it right.
[06:44] <Rameken> yeah
[06:44] <Rameken> I hope I did
[06:44] <dr_willis> Rameken,  how did ya burn it? check it under windows.. see what filkes are on the cd.
[06:44] <danko123456> that one guy never told me how to byurn dvds, he said he would...
[06:45] <Rameken> Nero
[06:45] <dr_willis> Rameken,  if you have some BIG.iso file - you did it wrong :P
[06:45] <Cybermagellan> danko123456: asking for? Hosting?
[06:45] <bystander> Rameken: and be sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD
[06:45] <rg58sma> what??
[06:45] <danko123456> nero, yeah, thats in my distro... yes, Cybermagellan.
[06:45] <dr_willis> i fyou used nero'd burn iso image feature - it should be fine.
[06:45] <i3dmaste1> glick: have you tried other version of kernel?
[06:45] <glick> humm ima have to change that sudo thing
[06:45] <heavy> I deleted the config files for courier-pop and when i reinstall with apt i don't get the config files back, is there a way to retrieve the default config files back?
[06:45] <glick> i3dmaste1, i just installed another kern
[06:45] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  why did you build it from source. when you could of easially used apt-get to install it.
[06:45] <glick> along with proper heades
[06:45] <glick> headers
[06:45] <i3dmaste1> glick:ok..
[06:46] <danko123456> rg58sma: can you sudo apt-get amule , please?
[06:46] <danko123456> not that it works...
[06:46] <danko123456> I use gtk-gnutella, that works.
[06:46] <Rameken> it just says I have ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso
[06:46] <rg58sma> i download amule from web site
[06:47] <dr_willis> Rameken,  you have a singel file on the cd thats called ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso ?
[06:47] <Rameken> yeah
[06:47] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  there was no need to do that.
[06:47] <Rameken> just that
[06:47] <dr_willis> Rameken,  congrats - you did it wrong :P
[06:47] <Rameken> darn
[06:47] <bystander> Rameken: re-burn ;)
[06:47] <danko123456> rg58sma: can you do what I said, tho?
[06:47] <Rameken> yeah ok
[06:47] <Cybermagellan> danko123456: my friend on Windows as complaining about how difficult it was to setup webhosting on Windows...
[06:47] <bystander> Rameken: as image
[06:47] <Rameken> ah
[06:47] <rg58sma> apt-get install amule download and compile??
[06:47] <dr_willis> areent you GLAD i asked this now :P befor ya spent 2 hrs trying to get it to boot. lol
[06:47] <Rameken> ok
[06:47] <danko123456> well, he can go cmplain however much he wants.
[06:47] <Rameken> I just did the boot cd thing
[06:48] <Rameken> darn nero
[06:48] <dr_willis> Rameken,  or check out "Burn At Once" its a nice program for just burning Iso images.
[06:48] <k4rp0r> could someone tell me where i can get this weather panel for gnome?
[06:48] <danko123456> Cybermagellan: tahts a good bookmark,. the free web hosting.
[06:48] <goldfish> weather?
[06:48] <k4rp0r> yes
[06:48] <glick> ok ima try n reboot
[06:48] <goldfish> k4rp0r: is it gkrellm?
[06:48] <bystander> k4rp0r: it's installed by default
[06:48] <dr_willis> I like tht WeatherFox extension for FIrefox.
[06:48] <goldfish> oh
[06:48] <goldfish> nm
[06:48] <bystander> k4rp0r: just right click the panel and choose it
[06:49] <Cybermagellan> danko123456: yeah...I'm running that....on Ubuntu none-the-less...
[06:49] <danko123456> hard to bookmark, tho:()
[06:49] <danko123456> :)
[06:49] <Cybermagellan> ?
[06:49] <Rameken> so burn disk image rather than bootable disk?
[06:49] <danko123456> rg58sma: sudo apt-get install amule
[06:50] <danko123456> thats it.
[06:50] <danko123456> all there is:)
[06:50] <goldfish> Rameken: yep
[06:50] <danko123456> you just dont kno how to state your issue.
[06:50] <dr_willis> amazeing :P
[06:50] <rg58sma> eit
[06:50] <rg58sma> im root
[06:50] <dr_willis> Rameken,  thats right.
[06:50] <goldfish> lol
[06:50] <goldfish> root on irc.... hmmmmm
[06:50] <dr_willis> Rameken,  bootable disk - you are making your own bootable cd. :P  a feature not a lot of people ever use.
[06:51] <danko123456> :) goldfish
[06:51] <goldfish> :)
[06:51] <danko123456> we saw that combination of letters already:-/
[06:51] <tjs> is CDBS compatible with the ubuntu packaging rules? are there ubuntu packaging rules?
[06:51] <goldfish> quakenet irc servers dont let you connect as root, cool feature
[06:51] <dr_willis> goldfish,  :P
[06:51] <danko123456> werll, needed to run...stupid quake players...
[06:52] <psychonate> hmm, does anyone use the us_intl layout
[06:54] <psychonate> I cannot figure out how to get an upside down question marc or exclamation point
[06:54] <psychonate> s/marc/mark
[06:54] <Rameken> it doesn't want to burn as an image
[06:54] <goldfish> what't it say?
[06:54] <IIIEars_> bystander, should'a used a bootable CD for 'em.goldfish - does that mean their are NO windowsusers there? - j/k
[06:55] <hybrid_goth> if i convert an apple dmg to an iso can i mount it and use it? i am on ppc linux
[06:55] <goldfish> hmmm
[06:55] <goldfish> IIIEars_: lol?
[06:55] <Rameken> I tried to select it as the file to burn but it wouldn't show on the file selector thing
[06:55] <danko123456> means there are none, yeah...
[06:55] <IIIEars_> i can't type - that is a nice feature for IRC quakenet.
[06:55] <goldfish> :)
[06:56] <danko123456> no more...sorry...
[06:56] <danko123456> same thing...my comp works...
[06:56] <goldfish> Rameken: can u click burn?
[06:57] <Rameken> I can't burn it if I can't load it up into nero
[06:57] <goldfish> hmmm
[06:58] <danko123456> hybrid_goth: no...
[06:58] <danko123456> sq...
[06:58] <Rameken> what I did was tell it to make me a bootable disk, why didn't that work
[06:58] <Rameken> ?
[06:58] <dr_willis> Rameken,  go to www.burnatonce.com - get their tool :P then its just a click, and burn :P
[06:58] <goldfish> in nero, u need to burn from disk image
[06:59] <bystander> Rameken: because what you need is the ISO mirrored onto the CD
[06:59] <danko123456> why nero?
[06:59] <Rameken> arg too complicated
[06:59] <bystander> Rameken: the ISO contains the bootloader for ubuntu etc
[06:59] <Rameken> nero because I have it
[07:00] <IcemanV9> hmm. nerolinux is available in deb package.
[07:00] <dr_willis> Rameken,  complecated? its a 1 min download :P
[07:00] <danko123456> rameken, prolly 5 more progs at the tips of ur fingers, 2, especially if you are on ubuntu...
[07:00] <bystander> IcemanV9: why bother?
[07:01] <IcemanV9> i know. ha. just mentioned it.
[07:01] <Rameken> well, what should happen when I boot into it?
[07:01] <Rameken> should it skip DOS completely?
[07:01] <dr_willis> Rameken,  'make a bootable disk' is a TOTALLY different thing from 'burning an iso image'
[07:02] <bystander> Rameken: yes, it will boot into Linux?Ubuntu
[07:02] <Rameken> right
[07:02] <bystander> I mean Linux/Ubuntu
[07:02] <Rameken> well I have much to learn
[07:02] <dr_willis> http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[07:03] <dr_willis> step by step with pictures :P
[07:03] <goldfish> lol
[07:03] <danko123456> how ugly...
[07:03] <danko123456> ugh
[07:03] <danko123456> all greym abd stuff.
[07:03] <goldfish> indeed
[07:03] <goldfish> very ugly :)
[07:03] <dr_willis> its also an older version of nero i think :P
[07:03] <danko123456> ya.
[07:04] <danko123456> like a classic windows,...ugh...
[07:04] <dr_willis> actually nero has like 2 modes ones a 'beginer step by step' mode i recall :P
[07:04] <danko123456> well, bnicer than xp...
[07:04] <Rameken> well see, I did the stuff on that tutorial
[07:04] <Rameken> but it didn't show up in step two
[07:04] <dr_willis> I just alwys use "Burn At Once" for my basic ISO burning needs.
[07:04] <dr_willis> under windows
[07:04] <MegaManX> Hey guys, check out my Ubuntu desktop: http://www.geocities.com/kooltux/snapshots/ubuntu/screenshot.jpg
[07:04] <IIIEars_> surprised nero looks so plain. gnomebaker or k3b may have more features.
[07:05] <goldfish> MegaManX: sweet
[07:05] <dr_willis> IIIEars_,  nero has loads of features. :P  but egads ill never use 90% of them
[07:05] <goldfish> MegaManX: what's that menubar thing along the bottom?
[07:05] <Amaranth> goldfish: gdesklet
[07:05] <goldfish> ah
[07:05] <MegaManX> goldfish, thanks mate :). Took me a while to make that :)
[07:05] <IIIEars_> lol - gotta admit neither will i in k3b or gnomebaker.
[07:06] <goldfish> nice stuff MegaManX
[07:06] <Amaranth> smeg is now loads faster and supports moving things in and out of the debian menu! woo
[07:06] <Amaranth> just have to wait for the pyxdg dev to wake up and take the patch ;)
[07:07] <Madpilot> MegaManX: cool. how do you do the transparent-windows thing?
[07:07] <IIIEars_> Amaranth, Nice work! (proffers a bottle of icy cold champagne.)
[07:07] <Amaranth> danko123456: you actually like Simple?
[07:07] <MegaManX> danko123456, sweet. I saw a IE icon there though :)
[07:07] <Rameken> thanks for the help
[07:07] <Rameken> burning now, and hopefully correctly
[07:08] <MegaManX> Madpilot, if you want to get transparency with Xchat, go into "Settings >> Preferences" and check the tranparency box
[07:08] <IIIEars_> Amaranth - Could you add md5sum to the taskbar? - please.... (begins to sound whiney.)
[07:08] <goldfish> http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~goldfish/Screenshot-3.png
[07:08] <goldfish> that was mine
[07:08] <Amaranth> IIIEars_: I don't know C, can't code applets
[07:08] <Madpilot> MegaManX: Ah, OK, I don't use XChat. was hoping it was a Ubuntu/Gnome-wide thing. thnx
[07:08] <Agrajag> MegaManX: Uh, I think he's talking about real transparency with compose
[07:09] <Rameken> hey, anybody think there's a way to use directx9, or an emulator of such, on linux?
[07:09] <psychonate> um
[07:09] <Agrajag> Madpilot: it's handled by X, not gnome
[07:09] <psychonate> Cedega
[07:09] <Amaranth> goldfish: screwy xfce user
[07:09] <goldfish> :)
[07:09] <drcode> hi all
[07:09] <psychonate> Does Cedega not support DX9?
[07:09] <drcode> I download xpdf
[07:09] <goldfish> hi drcode
[07:09] <Agrajag> Madpilot: read up on the compose extension in xorg
[07:09] <IIIEars_> Okay - i started my first lesson in C last week then i'll do it. (Feb. 2006)
[07:09] <drcode> I want to convert pdftops but use other font then the orginal pdf , any idea?
[07:09] <moqui> what does ubuntu use for package mgmnt?
[07:09] <Amaranth> apt/dpkg
[07:10] <Agrajag> moqui: apt
[07:10] <Amaranth> just like debian
[07:10] <oolong> *8)
[07:10] <goldfish> Madpilot: there's a composite howto on ubuntuforums.org
[07:10] <MegaManX> nice goldfish. Agrajag, I believe goldfish is better with tranparency then me :)
[07:10] <Fass> goldfish, what monitoring applet is that in your screenshot?
[07:10] <Rameken> I was wondering if I could get gentoo to run half life 2
[07:10] <goldfish> Fass: bottom left?
[07:10] <moqui> Agrajag: what are some good repos?
[07:10] <Fass> Yeah'
[07:10] <Agrajag> moqui: uh, the ubuntu ones?
[07:10] <moqui> yes
[07:10] <IIIEars_> What is "Gentoo"? ;)
[07:10] <Madpilot> goldfish, Agrajag: thnx, will look it up. Pretty cool effect!
[07:10] <moqui> Agrajag: yes
[07:11] <goldfish> Fass: torsmo
[07:11] <Agrajag> moqui: yes what
[07:11] <Fass> thanks!
[07:11] <goldfish> np
[07:11] <danko123456> hey, guys, the IE icon is for my dad, he got mad one day cause he could figure out the browser...
[07:11] <moqui> Agrajag: the ubuntu repositories
[07:11] <plonk22> Hi, im having problems loading snd_virmidi at boot, what is the correct way to choose what kernel modules to load under ubuntu 5.04 ?
[07:11] <danko123456> he was double clicking the world for ff, and it opened properties.
[07:11] <Agrajag> moqui: what about them
[07:11] <|7yrItch|> IIIEars_: source-compiled Linux
[07:11] <Rameken> gentoo is that awsome OS I know nothing about beside's the fact that it's highly customisable and a pain to install
[07:11] <IIIEars_> fass - Torsmo is awesomely powerful by just adding scripts to it.
[07:11] <bystander> plonk22: put them in /etc/modules
[07:12] <Agrajag> Rameken: I used it for almost a year, you pretty much summed it up
[07:12] <psychonate> I've asked in like six channels now, and no one seems to know how to get the inverted ! or ? in us_intl
[07:12] <Rameken> heh
[07:12] <Amaranth> highly customized, a pain to install, worthless
[07:12] <psychonate> I'm getting desperate here
[07:12] <moqui> Agrajag: where are the best repos for ubuntu
[07:12] <goldfish> psychonate: open an editor and try every key? :)
[07:12] <Rameken> I heard it was good from a friend who uses it
[07:12] <IIIEars_> "" - Gentoo Ugh
[07:12] <psychonate> goldfish, I'm trying as many combos as I can think of it
[07:12] <Amaranth> compiling with your own flags optimized for your arch is at best going to give you a 1% speed increase and at worse actually make performance worse
[07:12] <Agrajag> moqui: the ubuntu repositories are the best repositories for ubuntu
[07:12] <plonk22> bystander: i tried that but it seemed messy to load all the dependent modules at once, i was trying to modify /etc/modutils but i cant fint any documentation on how to do it
[07:12] <danko123456> Amaranth: are you serious? I love what it looks like...
[07:13] <psychonate> I can get stuff like this: , , , etc.
[07:13] <rg58sma> someone have a correct sources.list????????????
[07:13] <psychonate> But I can't figure these stupid marks out
[07:13] <moqui> Agrajag: ok thanks
[07:13] <dr_willis> rg58sma,  check ubuntuguide.org
[07:13] <glick> hey what happens if i make the sudu timeout 0?
[07:13] <bystander> moqui: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:13] <Amaranth> rg58sma: http://pastebin.com/290397
[07:13] <Amaranth> the sources.list on ubuntuguide.org is crack
[07:13] <rg58sma> whaty
[07:13] <rg58sma> paste
[07:14] <rg58sma> i don paste anything
[07:14] <IIIEars_> danko - Gentoo just doesn't understand the new linux user experience. - they assume too much.
[07:14] <Amaranth> rg58sma: No, I pasted something for you.
[07:14] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories   - to be exact :P
[07:14] <Amaranth> dr_willis: Total crack.
[07:14] <glick> if i set sudo to timout to 0
[07:14] <Fass> IIIEars: I'm reading its wiki already. ;)
[07:15] <dr_willis> if you say so. I dont think hes been listening much.
[07:15] <Amaranth> dr_willis: Known to break your system.
[07:15] <glick> is that koscher?
[07:15] <IIIEars_> Fas - Best wishes. (really)
[07:15] <danko123456> amaranth, same crap, someone came up with this... http://pastebin.com/290547
[07:15] <chris> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowtohttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:16] <Amaranth> danko123456: They have everything twice and had marillat...sad.
[07:16] <plonk22> is /etc/modutils/alsa-base ment to be user editable?
[07:16] <Amaranth> plonk22: probably not
[07:17] <bystander> plonk22: what's your issue with using /etc/modules? Works perfectly here...
[07:17] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu     :0 Wooo hoo! more fun to try
[07:18] <plonk22> bystander: do i just add snd_virmidi there, or do i have to add everything that its dependent on as welll, is /modules processed after all the hotplug stuff?
[07:18] <bystander> plonk22: why not try it and see?
[07:18] <danko123456> Amaranth: how, if it is for src the other??
[07:18] <danko123456> its the best one yet.
[07:18] <plonk22> i added it previously, and soundcore did not load
[07:18] <danko123456> anyhow.
[07:19] <Amaranth> danko123456: Oh, I missed that. pastebin is so hard to read.
[07:19] <IIIEars_> Fass - will be back.
[07:19] <plonk22> will try again, maybe i made a typo
[07:19] <rg58sma> i  need the sources in spanish
[07:19] <bystander> plonk22: find out which modules you need, and add them accordingly. Test with modprobe
[07:20] <danko123456> Amaranth: lol...
[07:20] <danko123456> pastebin is hard to read.
[07:20] <danko123456> not lol, I guess, Im too tired.
[07:20] <bystander> plonk22: if modprobe works, AFAIK it should work putting that in /etc/modules
[07:20] <Amaranth> http://rafb.net/paste/ <--much better
[07:21] <plonk22> bystander: thanks, i will try rebooting again, modprobe works fine so i guess i made an error somewhere
[07:21] <evilerdeer> hi all
[07:21] <danko123456> yo, evil...
[07:22] <danko123456> oh, for reading...
[07:22] <danko123456> you can have a raw pasteibn.
[07:22] <evilerdeer> huh
[07:22] <danko123456> or someone else, evil...
[07:22] <danko123456> for
[07:22] <MegaManX> Have to go work, catch you guys later ;)
[07:23] <goldfish> see ya MegaManX
[07:23] <IIIEars_> Take care Mega
[07:23] <rg58sma> how to install jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin
[07:23] <MegaManX> you too :). Thanks for the help. Very friendly chat this one :D
[07:23] <mindmedic> rg58sma, look at the readme on the sun homepage
[07:23] <bystander> rg58sma: read http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:23] <goldfish> rg58sma: sh filename.bin
[07:23] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15
[07:24] <rg58sma> im argentinian
[07:24] <dr_willis> wiki is perferd over ubuntu guide.  (or so im told) :P but i read them both.
[07:25] <Amaranth> the wiki is far more likely to have info in it that won't break your system
[07:25] <cyphase> Take a look at this keyboard: http://www.daskeyboard.com/
[07:25] <Amaranth> and when it does have info that can break your system, it warns you
[07:25] <goldfish> cyphase: LOL.
[07:25] <danko123456> wow
[07:26] <danko123456> awesome
[07:26] <danko123456> ubergeek
[07:26] <cyphase> lol
[07:26] <goldfish> it's like when they had smiley faces and stuff on their keyboards in "Hackers"
[07:26] <goldfish> on their keys i mean
[07:26] <danko123456> a precision tool:)
[07:26] <danko123456> yeah, you can put anything...
[07:26] <danko123456> just like letters you cant rememebr, and stuff.
[07:26] <danko123456> awesome
[07:27] <chris> real geeks use dvorak
[07:27] <goldfish> hah
[07:27] <danko123456> whateva chris...
[07:27] <Echylo> woow
[07:27] <Amaranth> oh, those keyboard are awesome
[07:27] <chris> hehe
[07:27] <danko123456> show us a picture...
[07:27] <goldfish> might try it out
[07:27] <Echylo> kewl keyboard
[07:27] <Amaranth> the keys have different weights
[07:27] <cyphase> yea
[07:28] <Amaranth> so it's the same ammount of force to hit every key, since some fingers are weaker than others
[07:28] <goldfish> danko123456: dvorak layout as opposed to qwerty
[07:28] <cyphase> lol, dvorak sounds russian
[07:28] <Amaranth> dvorak is pretty much useless due to the chicken and egg problem
[07:28] <cyphase> ;)
[07:28] <chris> http://www.atarimagazines.com/v5n11/dvorak2.jpg
[07:28] <Amaranth> no one will use it because no one uses it
[07:28] <xb> lol i saw the daskeyboard the other day its cool if it wasnt priced.  it should cost less
[07:28] <Amaranth> i guess that's more of a catch-22
[07:28] <xb> than one with added letters
[07:28] <chris> and http://www.xprt.net/~chitaree/images/keyboard.jpg
[07:29] <dr_willis> heh - DasKeyboard was about $80 right?
[07:29] <chris> I really wanna start using dvorak
[07:29] <Amaranth> because if you type on dvorak at one place and qwerty at another (home/work, can't change work) you're going to type worse on both
[07:29] <cyphase> dr_willis, yea
[07:29] <chris> I know someppl who can type well on  both
[07:29] <dr_willis> cyphase,  considering getting one. :P but i  got this OLD ibm clicky keyboard i like.
[07:30] <chris> that is "da skills"
[07:30] <Amaranth> they are called masters, most will never join them
[07:30] <chris> hehe
[07:30] <Amaranth> dr_willis: ooh, you have one of the old school IBMs with metal springs?
[07:30] <xb> what a new letter system?
[07:30] <dr_willis> the Happy Hacker Keyboard is nifty also. :P  about the same price
[07:30] <xb> for keyboards
[07:30] <xb> i dont get it..
[07:30] <MattJ> whats a good file system to use that both windows and linux can read/write to -- also has linux support for ntfs gotten better?
[07:30] <xb> im only fluent in qwerty
[07:30] <dr_willis> Amaranth,  several of them I think :P  $2 each at a rummage sale
[07:30] <Amaranth> MattJ: fat32 and no
[07:30] <chris> ext 2/3
[07:30] <dr_willis> Thing weigs about 8 lbs
[07:30] <Amaranth> yeah, but they never break
[07:30] <xb> windows dont read ext 2/3
[07:30] <eonia> bystander: Ok, here's my new line I added in fstab (before I mounted the drive no less): /dev/hda1 /localdrive ntfs users,ro,exec,nosuid,nomand,uid=022,gid=022,umask=022 0 0
[07:30] <Amaranth> unless you try :)
[07:30] <MattJ> Amaranth: whats the hd size limit with fat32 though
[07:31] <eonia> bystander: suffice it to say, it didnt' work
[07:31] <cyphase> chris, |_)@ 5|<||_-/_
[07:31] <Amaranth> MattJ: 2TB?
[07:31] <cyphase> lol
[07:31] <dr_willis> Amaranth,  they are FLITHY however. i spent a day just cleaning one.
[07:31] <chris> http://ubuntuguide.org/#readlinuxpartitionsinwindows
[07:31] <MattJ> Amaranth: i thought windows wouldent read a fat32 drive that is bigger then like 30 gig or something
[07:31] <goldfish> i have a 186gb fat32 drive
[07:31] <bystander> eonia: it would be difficult to imagine getting it *more* wrong
[07:31] <eonia> bystander: rats :) enlighten me?
[07:31] <Amaranth> MattJ: that i don't know about
[07:32] <Amaranth> there is always ntfs captive
[07:32] <chris> :xb they do http://ubuntuguide.org/#readlinuxpartitionsinwindows
[07:32] <dr_willis> fat32 can get over 30gb. i belive MS may of done somthign with it. :P
[07:32] <bystander> eonia: for starters, uid and gid refer to actual user and group numbers, like yours (probably 1000)
[07:32] <dr_willis> i seem to recall researching this once.
[07:32] <MattJ> hrmm
[07:32] <danko123456> eonia: whats that uid?
[07:33] <MattJ> and there is no way to convert a drive from ntfs to fat32 without formatting it right? its just a storage drive no OS on it
[07:33] <bystander> eonia: secondly , most of it is redundant anyway
[07:33] <eonia> bystander: ah, I thought it referred to something entirely different. Therefore remove the uid/gid clause?
[07:33] <goldfish> eonia: you need the -t option before ntfs, no ?
[07:33] <plonk22> bystander: thanks for that, all the modules are loaded properly, but now my alsa does not work, dmix dies if I put snd_virmidi in the modules file. It was working fine before though. When I put virmidi in the first time i assumed when my sound stopped working my sound modules were dead.
[07:33] <dr_willis> MattJ,  partion magic perhaps can.
[07:33] <eonia> goldfish: I'm not mounting, I'm editing fstab; I don't think -t is needed there
[07:33] <goldfish> ah
[07:33] <goldfish> sorry :/
[07:33] <Amaranth> ntfs captive is kinda slick, actually. it uses the kernel's ntfs read support to grab the ntfs.sys driver off the windows partition and uses it to read/write/etc ntfs partitions
[07:34] <bystander> eonia: I respectfully suggest you browse " man fstab" ;-)
[07:34] <eonia> bystander: I respectfully point out that I did, to no avail :-)
[07:35] <bystander> eonia: "If at first you don't succeed..." and so on... *grin*
[07:35] <Myrtti> ffs, Firefox doesn't start up anymore
[07:35] <eonia> bystander: thanks :-)
[07:35] <Amaranth> oh dear, my firefox nightly is 10 days old
[07:35] <Amaranth> i feel dirty
[07:36] <danko123456> go wash your mouth with soap...
[07:36] <eonia> bystander: ok, but I should still use umask=022 yes? (there is nothing in man about that btw)
[07:36] <danko123456> eonia: mounting a hard drive dont work?
[07:36] <bystander> eonia: you really shouldn't need anything beyond umask=022
[07:36] <danko123456> a partition? a windows one to that?
[07:37] <eonia> danko123456: yes, a win partition; I can read it as root, but not as a different user
[07:37] <bystander> eonia: as I told you before, this seems to work:
[07:37] <bystander> /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 0
[07:38] <danko123456> eonia, k, taht is easy...
[07:38] <bystander> of course your mount point will differ
[07:38] <chris> sounds good
[07:38] <danko123456> sudo fdisk -l
[07:38] <danko123456> tell us the ntfs one.
[07:39] <eonia> danko123456: hda1
[07:39] <eonia> bystander: ok :) I'll try that :)
[07:39] <eonia> bystander: but really.. why make my life easier? ;-)
[07:39] <danko123456> try it.
[07:39] <danko123456> :)
[07:39] <Myrtti> oh no, it really doesn't start up
[07:40] <Myrtti> oh the pain
[07:40] <goldfish> Myrtti: use lynx :)
[07:40] <Myrtti> Ha              ha.
[07:40] <IIIEars_> w3m is preinstalled. links is better
[07:41] <Amaranth> w3m supports far more than links
[07:41] <danko123456> bah, my bklackbox has a good context menu now, I never tried it...
[07:41] <Cristobal> hi
[07:41] <IIIEars_> (pokes goldfish fr a browser "war" - lol)
[07:41] <Amaranth> IIIEars_: You another roommate?
[07:41] <glick> okay so far daddy likes :)
[07:42] <glick> a couple of things i have to fix and tweak and change
[07:42] <nobile> =)
[07:42] <IIIEars_> lol - (realizes the quiet corner is where he should of stayed.)
[07:42] <glick> but over all its niceness
[07:42] <eonia> bystander: no good; here's the error msg I get trying to access it:
[07:42] <eonia> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ cd /localdrive
[07:42] <eonia> bash: cd: /localdrive: Permission denied
[07:43] <danko123456> my xwindows is being extremely sketchy, you should see this, just for a laugh...
[07:43] <eonia> here's the error trying to chmod it:  root@ubuntu:/ # chmod -v 555 /localdrive
[07:43] <eonia> failed to change mode of `/localdrive' to 0555 (r-xr-xr-x)
[07:43] <eonia> chmod: changing permissions of `/localdrive': Read-only file system
[07:43] <Myrtti> not doing it with sudo?
[07:43] <eonia> here's the line I added to fstab (afterwards umounting and mounting to be sure)
[07:43] <Myrtti> oh
[07:43] <Myrtti> yes you are
[07:44] <eonia> /dev/hda1 /localdrive ntfs users,ro,noauto,umask=022 0 0
[07:44] <danko123456> eonia: are you still on about the ntfs? then add yourself as the user.
[07:44] <bystander> eonia: what does `ls -ld /localdrive` say?
[07:45] <Cristobal> when doing a server install of ubuntu whats the commands i should do to get gnome an the basic stuff
[07:45] <eonia> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ ls -ld /localdrive
[07:45] <eonia> dr-x------  1 root root 16384 2005-05-26 01:26 /localdrive
[07:45] <romm3r> Cristobal: sudo apt-get install x-window-system gnome
[07:45] <romm3r> i think thats right
[07:45] <bystander> eonia: make a new mount point dir
[07:46] <bystander> eonia: it should be 755 (that's the default)
[07:46] <romm3r> or sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[07:46] <eonia> you mean chmod it before mounting it?
[07:46] <bystander> eonia: then use your new dir in fstab
[07:46] <Myrtti> how about chown and chgrp
[07:46] <bystander> eonia: you shouldn't need to chmod it
[07:46] <Cristobal> thanks and is there a program i can install that will auto detect and install my needed drivers
[07:46] <bystander> eonia: it should be vreated 755 by default
[07:47] <romm3r> Cristobal: have u got ubuntu installed already
[07:47] <bystander> *created
[07:47] <Cristobal> yes
[07:47] <eonia> ok
[07:47] <Cristobal> just command line tho
[07:47] <Cristobal> did a server install
[07:47] <eonia> hang on
[07:47] <romm3r> Cristobal: which devices aren't working
[07:47] <Cristobal> sound
[07:47] <bystander> eonia: the permissions you have on /localdrive are prohibitive
[07:48] <eonia> here's the new dir:
[07:48] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # ls -ld /newmount
[07:48] <eonia> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 2005-05-26 22:46 /newmount
[07:48] <eonia> looks good so far
[07:48] <romm3r> Cristobal: i wonder if thats because u installed as a server?
[07:48] <bystander> eonia: yep: now substitute that in /etc/fstab
[07:48] <Cristobal> probably yes since i dont think it installed any devices
[07:49] <JanderClander> where can I suggest something to Laptop Team
[07:49] <eonia> done. now mount it to /newmount I assume
[07:49] <bystander> eonia: try it out, yes
[07:49] <Cristobal> when is breeze scheduled for release
[07:50] <jsgotangco> October 2005
[07:50] <Seveas> goooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmoooooooooooooooooooooooorning!
[07:50] <Seveas> JanderClander, by posting your suggestion to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:50] <Seveas> Cristobal, there is a fixed 6-month release schedule with releases every april & october
[07:50] <Cristobal> so october
[07:50] <JanderClander> Seveas: thanks!!
[07:50] <Myrtti> ok, I installed firefox from Debian testing.
[07:51] <eonia> bystander: ok, done. Observe log:
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # mkdir /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # ls -ld /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 2005-05-26 22:46 /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # pico /etc/fstab
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # pico /etc/fstab
[07:51] <Myrtti> now it works again
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /newmount busy
[07:51] <eonia> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /localdrive
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # umount /localdrive
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # /mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> bash: /mount: No such file or directory
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> root@ubuntu:/ # ls -ld /newmount
[07:51] <eonia> dr-x------  1 root root 16384 2005-05-26 01:26 /newmount
[07:51] <bystander> eonia: DON't PASTE!!
[07:51] <MattJ> eonia: get a pastebin somewhere
[07:51] <eonia> sorry!
[07:51] <Seveas> eonia, DO NOT paste in here, use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:51] <Amaranth> eonia: You can't write to an ntfs drive
[07:52] <eonia> I don't want to write to it, I simply want to read it
[07:52] <eonia> as a user
[07:52] <Seveas> eonia, simply mount it with umask=0000 in the options fiels
[07:52] <Seveas> filed*
[07:52] <Seveas> field*
[07:52] <Amaranth> wouldn't putting user in the options field do it too?
[07:53] <MattJ> Seveas: where do you live thats its morning?
[07:53] <Seveas> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /newmount -o umask=0000
[07:53] <Seveas> MattJ, The Netherlands
[07:53] <Seveas> 7:53 am here
[07:53] <glick> how do i make the kernel reread the udev rules?
[07:53] <MattJ> 2am in the states
[07:53] <Seveas> glick, /etc/init.d/udev restart maybe
[07:54] <glick> thanks Seveas :)
[07:54] <Seveas> MattJ, then go to sleep ;)
[07:55] <Amaranth> 1am here
[07:55] <Myrtti> me hungry
[07:55] <Myrtti> groar
[07:55] <glick> hmm my rules arnt working
[07:56] <Natedogg> hey, anyone still up?
[07:57] <eonia> seveas: it worked. Thank you :) Sorry about the paste, I put everything in ubuntu.pastebin.com, but it's a little late now anyway :)
[07:57] <eonia> thanks for bearing with me guys, and not using a clue-by-four :) I'm not *ix-ified yet
[07:58] <Natedogg> after I log in to ubuntu to begin a session my screen goes blank, and i get an error message telling me it won't load "K Display Manager" becuase its not the default display manager
[07:58] <Natedogg> how can I turn it to the default?
[07:58] <bystander> eonia: you shouldn't need umask=0000 - 022 should work too
[07:58] <bystander> eonia: but whatever works for you I guess
[07:58] <Seveas> bystander, 0222 then
[07:58] <Seveas> always use 4-digit values
[07:59] <glick> hmm my usb stick has a vfat fs on it
[07:59] <glick> but it cant mount it
[07:59] <bystander> Seveas: interesting. my fstab has 022 and works fine
[07:59] <glick> in fstab fs is auto
[07:59] <glick> doesnt ubuntu come with vfat support?
[08:00] <bystander> Seveas: isn't the fourth digit redundant?
[08:00] <Seveas> bystander, 3-digit values work too, but on some systems do different things :)
[08:00] <glick> /proc/filesysems shows vfat
[08:00] <bystander> Seveas: I see :)
[08:00] <eonia> bystander: ok, tried that too; it works as well. Just wondering though, why wouldn't it follow fstab's direction for umask=022 if it wasn't specified in the mount command?
[08:00] <Seveas> glick, your usb stick shouldn't be in fstab
[08:00] <glick> when i plug in the usb stuck the kernel responds with this in dmesg
[08:00] <Natedogg> how can I change my defalault to k display manager?
[08:00] <Rev_Fry> I came back to my hoary system and it was unresponsive... the keyboard Lock keys wouldn't light up but the system was on and the mouse was lit... so I rebooted and set pci=noacpi since it's been hanging trying to stop this on a shutdown.  That made it look up with a sound stutter when I booted.  So.. I've got an AMD64 2800+ MSI K8N NEO 2 Plat 768m Ram and a 9600XT... any known issues?
[08:00] <glick> Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[08:00] <glick> usb-storage: device scan complete
[08:00] <glick> VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.
[08:00] <Seveas> Natedogg, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <glick> Seveas, i use udev
[08:01] <Rev_Fry> Other symptoms where applications not starting but showing up in top
[08:01] <Seveas> glick, so do I (ubuntu default) and all my usb sticks automount perfectly
[08:01] <bystander> eonia: it should. Try typing sudo mount -a and then try it again, maybe
[08:01] <glick> Seveas, where do they automount to?
[08:01] <Natedogg> thank you
[08:02] <glick> Seveas, im runnin xfce4
[08:02] <Seveas>  /media/$filesystem-label
[08:02] <glick> Seveas, yeah it doesnt do it for me
[08:02] <Seveas> it's udev + pmount-hal
[08:02] <glick> Seveas, pmount?
[08:03] <Seveas> pmount lets you mount removable drives as ordinary user
[08:03] <Seveas> pmount-hal is the automount bit
[08:03] <eonia> bystander: ok, that worked (after I removed noauto from fstab)
[08:04] <Natedogg> Seveas, that didn't work, it k display manager is still not the default, so when I start GNOME i just get a blank screen
[08:04] <bystander> eonia: noauto just means "don't mount this on boot"
[08:04] <glick> i dont understand why its not working here
[08:04] <Seveas> Natedogg, do you mean KDM as login screen?
[08:05] <glick> i specified in fstab to use auto for usbstick
[08:05] <Seveas> glick, that's not the point in auto
[08:05] <Orbo> problem with ipod.  followed the setup tutorial and it works fine in general, it's just that every time I plug it back in it will change the device to a higher letter
[08:05] <Seveas> auto means: boot when mount -a is called (at boot)
[08:05] <glick> Seveas, what do you mean?
[08:05] <Seveas> pmount does not even need it to be in fstab
[08:05] <eonia> bystander: ok, but it wouldn't mount with noauto, so I assume it means don't mount as -a (all) either
[08:05] <glick> Seveas, no i have auto for fstype
[08:05] <Orbo> i eject it when it is recognized as sdb
[08:06] <glick> autodetect the fs
[08:06] <Orbo> then I plug it back in and its sdc
[08:06] <bystander> eonia: right, as seveas just pointed out
[08:06] <Orbo> then I plug it in again, and its sdd
[08:06] <Natedogg> Seveas, someone had me run an install and it asked me which i wanted to make defalut, KDM or DPM, and now after selecting DPM, right after I login and put in my password i get a blank screen and it stays there
[08:07] <dr_willis> DPM?
[08:07] <bystander> eonia: but "mount /newmount" should work for user now
[08:07] <yahalom> anyway i can have the app menu by right clicking on my desktop? like in xfce and also in kde (if configured) ?
[08:07] <dr_willis> Hmm..
[08:07] <glick> Seveas, you have any idea why my usb stick isnt automounting?
[08:07] <Natedogg> i might just run the installer again and reselect kpm
[08:08] <Seveas> glick, not really
[08:08] <Orbo> yahalom, if you want the gnome experience in a windows manager, try metacity
[08:08] <bystander> eonia: if you have "auto" it will just be permanently mounted
[08:08] <Seveas> Natedogg, installer?!?!
[08:08] <Seveas> you do not need installers to install KDE
[08:08] <Natedogg> let me get the exact line
[08:08] <Seveas> that might just have screwed it up...
[08:08] <yahalom> Orbo, why?
[08:08] <Orbo> because it a window manager
[08:08] <glick> that sucks i need access to my usb :(
[08:08] <Orbo> that works like gnome
[08:08] <Natedogg> it might not be an installer, new to unix, it had install in the line i think though
[08:08] <yahalom> Orbo, what does it use now?
[08:08] <Orbo> what?
[08:09] <yahalom> Orbo, what window manager does gnome use by default?
[08:09] <Orbo> if you just did a default install youre most likely using gnome
[08:09] <skull> hey i created an user for my bro and added him to audio group before i saw the volume control then it disappeared, when i try to add the volumen control it doesn't show up
[08:09] <Seveas> Orbo, metacity
[08:09] <bystander> yahalom: metacity
[08:09] <Natedogg> seveas, whatever he had me install was so I could run a different type of session
[08:09] <skull> how can i fix it
[08:09] <bystander> oops
[08:09] <yahalom> Orbo, so i am using metacity
[08:09] <Orbo> right now?
[08:09] <Seveas> Natedogg, you mean update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[08:09] <yahalom> Orbo, if its the default, yes
[08:10] <bystander> yahalom: metacity doesn't give you abn app menu on right click
[08:10] <Orbo> no, yahalom, gnome is the default
[08:10] <xb> hm. does uudecode come with ubuntu?
[08:10] <Orbo> get metacity through apt or synaptic
[08:10] <yahalom> Orbo, u saying gnome, bystander and Seveas are saying metacity :)
[08:10] <Seveas> yahalom, Gnome is your desktop environment, it uses metacity as windom manager...
[08:10] <bystander> Orbo: gnome is the desktop: it uses metacity as wm
[08:10] <yahalom> bystander, what does?
[08:10] <xSachs> hihi
[08:10] <Orbo> right right, but if he just wants metacity
[08:11] <xSachs> can anyone tell me a program for photo capture from digital camera?
[08:11] <Orbo> then hell have to add it to gdm?
[08:11] <Orbo> am I right?
[08:11] <eonia> bystander: thanks for your help, your patience is to be commended :-)
[08:11] <bystander> yahalom: quite a few wm do that
[08:11] <yahalom> Orbo, i dont just want metacity, i want right click app menu
[08:11] <Orbo> just use fluxbox
[08:11] <bystander> eonia: thanks :)
[08:11] <Orbo> fluxbox r rox
[08:11] <Natedogg> seveas, this is what i typed in the terminal "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" at the end it asked me which to make defalault, kpm or dpm, i asked the guy and he said dpm, and now i can't load GNOME
[08:11] <Seveas> xSachs, most cameras will mount as external hard drive..
[08:11] <Orbo> damn leet
[08:11] <Orbo> sorry
[08:11] <bystander> eonia: hope it all works OK now :)
[08:11] <Seveas> dpm..?
[08:11] <Seveas> there is no dpm...
[08:11] <xSachs> oh ok thx, how about webcam recording?
[08:11] <Natedogg> hmmm
[08:11] <Natedogg> i swear thats what it said
[08:11] <Orbo> yahalom, use fluxbox.  Easy to configure through straightforward text files
[08:11] <eonia> bystander: like freshly waxed car :)
[08:12] <Orbo> lots of documentation too
[08:12] <Natedogg> should i just run the same line again? and then when it asks selece kmp?
[08:12] <Orbo> and itll give you the right click app menu that you long for
[08:12] <xSachs> my webcam also takes pictures but has no memory -- goes straight to comp <-- any program for capturing this?
[08:12] <Natedogg> seveas, this is what i typed in the terminal "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" at the end it asked me which to make defalault, kpm or dpm, i asked the guy and he said dpm, and now i can't load GNOME
[08:12] <Seveas> Natedogg, try apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[08:12] <Natedogg> whoops
[08:13] <Seveas> it dhould ask that question again
[08:13] <Seveas> should*
[08:13] <Natedogg> it didn't
[08:13] <Natedogg> wait
[08:14] <Natedogg> too errors, could not open lock file, and unable to lock the admin directory
[08:14] <Seveas> Natedogg, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[08:15] <Natedogg> hmmm
[08:15] <Orbo> anyways, can anyone help with my above mentioned ipod issue?
[08:15] <Natedogg> dosen't look good
[08:15] <yahalom> bystander, Orbo i have no idea how to change my window manager and still use gnome
[08:15] <bystander> Natedogg: echo "/usr/bin/kdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:15] <Orbo> what?
[08:15] <bystander> Natedogg: prepend with sudo
[08:15] <Orbo> if you want gnome themes and everything use gnome-session
[08:15] <Natedogg> seveas: this is what i got, Reloading K display Manager configuration... initscript kdm, action "reload" failed
[08:16] <Seveas> Natedogg, try what bystander said:
[08:16] <Natedogg> ok
[08:16] <Seveas> echo "/usr/bin/kdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:16] <bystander> Natedogg: use sudo
[08:16] <Seveas> but try this form :)
[08:16] <yahalom> Orbo, man i wantgnome. i just want to access my app menu by right clicking, like in xfce.
[08:16] <bystander> ah yes, good catch :)
[08:17] <yahalom> Seveas, u know what i mean?
[08:17] <Orbo> yahalom, google
[08:17] <mariahdz> install the ndiswrapper from thesynaptic package manger
[08:17] <yahalom> Orbo, there thanx :)
[08:17] <mariahdz> need help
[08:17] <Orbo> did I really need to tell you that ?
[08:17] <Seveas> yahalom, i understand that, but the app-menu-with-right-click is an XFCE feature that is not available on gnome afaik
[08:17] <yahalom> Orbo, lol no
[08:17] <Peps> I downloaded a .deb file from sourceforge since the (latest) version I have keep crashing. Is there a way to get synaptic to install it? I understand using dpkg directly is not recommended ...
[08:17] <glick> i have a question i start cp 'ing a dir from my external firewire hd and it starts then in the middle of it it stops
[08:17] <yahalom> Seveas, no way?
[08:18] <glick> then dmesg shows the following
[08:18] <glick> Attached scsi disk sda at scsi7, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[08:18] <glick> ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command
[08:18] <glick> Read (10) 00 01 91 7f 98 00 00 01 00
[08:18] <Seveas> Peps, sudo dpkg -i [thedebfile]
[08:18] <Natedogg> sudo: treee: command not found?
[08:18] <Peps> Seveas, will that remove the exsisting one or I have to do it manually?
[08:18] <Seveas> using dpkg is the only way :)
[08:18] <bystander> Natedogg: tee
[08:19] <Natedogg> lol
[08:19] <Seveas> Peps, it *should* remove the existing one if this new one is properly built
[08:19] <bystander> :)
[08:19] <Seveas> Natedogg, echo "/usr/bin/kdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:19] <mariahdz> i need help i have emachins window ep and i did the doel boot particion  for lenux ubuntu and the inter net will not work on ubuntu what do i do
[08:19] <Peps> Seveas, Thanks, I hope my system will not blow up :)
[08:19] <bystander> Seveas: I forgot the carch 22 with sudo :)
[08:20] <bystander> *catch 22
[08:20] <mariahdz> can some one help please
[08:20] <Seveas> mariahdz, what is the ndiswrapper problem?
[08:21] <glick> yeah something is borked big time
[08:21] <glick> i did shutdown -r now
[08:21] <dr_willis> hmm
[08:21] <mariahdz> cat go online from ubuntu it dos not reconaz
[08:21] <glick> and my system isnt shutting down
[08:21] <Natedogg> still nothing guys, should i to re-run the original line and then switch it?
[08:21] <Seveas> mariahdz, have you installed both ndiswrapper and linux-restricted-modules..?
[08:21] <yahalom> is there a limit to how many themese i can add?
[08:21] <Seveas> yahalom, no
[08:21] <mariahdz> no waht is it
[08:21] <mariahdz> were do i get it
[08:21] <Seveas> Natedogg, does it give no output or an error?
[08:22] <glick> lol i cant halt the system
[08:22] <Seveas> mariahdz, can you please type uname -a in a terminal and paste the output in here
[08:22] <bystander> Natedogg: what does `cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager ` return?
[08:22] <glick> what is going on?
[08:22] <yahalom> Seveas, i added two more themes and it wouldnt add them, evne thought it said it did
[08:22] <mariahdz> a what
[08:22] <Orbo> do it through terminal yahalom
[08:22] <Orbo> were they icon themes?
[08:22] <glick> anyone know what i could/should do?
[08:22] <Seveas> mariahdz, go to applications->system tools->terminal
[08:23] <mariahdz> ok
[08:23] <Seveas> mariahdz, that'll open a window, in that window you type: uname -a
[08:23] <Seveas> followed by an [enter]
[08:23] <glick> my cpu is being used 100%
[08:23] <glick> i think i found a serious kernel bug
[08:23] <Seveas> mariahdz, it will say something like 2.6.10-5-SOMETHING
[08:23] <Seveas> and i want to know that SOMETHING
[08:24] <Natedogg> as i was just rebooting, i noticed the same thing i notice when i turned it off, in "DOS" there was a orange asterik by GNOME Display Manager and K Display Manager, both of them say Not starting Manager; its not the default display manager
[08:24] <glick> i guess my only option is a cold hard power re boot
[08:24] <dr_willis> a "Boot To the Head Reboot" :P
[08:24] <dr_willis> "Cold Cycle the Power System"
[08:25] <bystander> Natedogg: what does `cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager ` return?
[08:26] <Natedogg> user/bin/kdm
[08:26] <bystander> Natedogg: and you reinstalled kdm, right?
[08:26] <Natedogg> not sure
[08:26] <Seveas> Natedogg, please copy our commands CAREFULLY
[08:26] <Seveas> Natedogg, echo "/usr/bin/kdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:26] <bystander> Natedogg: you mean /usr/bin/kdm I hope
[08:27] <Natedogg> yeah
[08:27] <bystander> Natedogg: because it looks like you did a typo
[08:27] <Natedogg> acctually it does say /user/bin/kdm
[08:27] <mariahdz> what do i do confused
[08:27] <bystander> Natedogg: then repeat the command Seveas gave you
[08:27] <Natedogg> ok
[08:27] <eonia> Gotta run. May y'all have a happy day now y'hear? :)
[08:28] <bystander> Natedogg: it's /usr not /user
[08:28] <mariahdz> help
[08:28] <Natedogg> yes, i am an idiot, been on linux less then 5 hours
[08:29] <bystander> Natedogg: well in that case you are doing OK :)
[08:29] <Natedogg> so after i reinstalled it now, what next
[08:29] <bystander> Natedogg: give us the output of cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager again to check
[08:29] <plonk22> bystander: Just wanted to say thanks, I got it all going now, was giving it the wrong module parameter
[08:30] <bystander> plonk22: cool :)
[08:30] <bystander> Natedogg: if that command returns /usr/bin/kdm you should be OK
[08:31] <stalagna> sorry about htat
[08:32] <stalagna>   usr/bin/kdm
[08:32] <bystander> stalagna: it should have a leading / ( /usr/bin/kdm )
[08:32] <stalagna> it does
[08:32] <bystander> stalagna: OK
[08:32] <stalagna> i lose that everytime i type it for some reason
[08:33] <bystander> stalagna: what does ` dpkg -l kdm ` say ?
[08:33] <bystander> it should have ii in the first column if it's installed
[08:33] <bystander> don't paste the output, please
[08:34] <stalagna> yeah it does
[08:34] <stalagna> i can't
[08:34] <stalagna> its on my laptop
[08:34] <bystander> OK it should work now
[08:34] <bystander> stalagna: if you reboot you should get kdm
[08:34] <stalagna> ill give it a shot
[08:34] <stalagna> thanks a bunch
[08:34] <bystander> OK
[08:34] <bystander> no worries
[08:35] <Seveas> stalagna, reboot is not needed
[08:35] <Seveas> just hit <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[08:35] <bystander> Seveas: true, sorry
[08:36] <Seveas> although, if kdm did not start earlier, you might need a reboot anyway :)
[08:36] <bystander> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:37] <lobo_> Hello, I am having trouble installing ubuntu with software raid
[08:39] <stalagna> bystander: so what is the line to change the default display manager
[08:39] <stalagna> i didn't realzie what the difference was, the one i prefer is the original one
[08:40] <bystander> stalagna: the one I originally gave you will say permission denied or similar
[08:40] <stalagna> i am still locking up right after i put in my password
[08:40] <bystander> stalagna: it's a quirk of the sudo method
[08:40] <Seveas> Natedogg, echo "/usr/bin/gdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:40] <Seveas> that's the Ubuntu default
[08:41] <stalagna> so if you run GNOME you have to be running the GDM right?
[08:41] <stalagna> is that why I am locking up?
[08:41] <bystander> stalagna: no
[08:41] <dr_willis> No. :P
[08:42] <bystander> stalagna: kdm works too
[08:42] <dr_willis> I use kdm to start up gnome all the time.. and visa-versa
[08:42] <bystander> stalagna: the lock up is some other issue I guess
[08:42] <dr_willis> or ya could not even use kdm or gdm. and boot to the console.
[08:42] <stalagna> any other ideas why this won't start up?
[08:43] <bystander> stalagna: you typed your user name first, didn't you ?
[08:43] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. drop back to the console. make a .xinitrc, try startx, and watch the error logs. :P
[08:44] <bystander> dr_willis: .xsession in debian based distros
[08:44] <stalagna> yeah
[08:44] <dr_willis> bystander,  Hmm i thoght .xinitrc started for me the other day :P thenagain it may check for one or the other in order.
[08:44] <stalagna> first a question, there are two ways to run this software, one is GNOME, and the blue is called what?
[08:44] <bystander> dr_willis: .xinitrc will work too :)
[08:45] <dr_willis> then ya got what 'vnc' looks for,
[08:45] <stalagna> the blue background, and it starts with a K
[08:45] <bystander> dr_willis: different functions though
[08:45] <goldfish> kde ?
[08:45] <stalagna> yeah I think so
[08:45] <dr_willis> bystander,  yea - never did find any real info on the differances. :P figured it was some old 'standard' vs some newer old standard. :P now neither are used much.
[08:46] <stalagna> bystander: ok, everything was working fine until he had me run the install, and then after it, i ran KDE once with no problems, logged out and tried getting back into GNOME and got the blank screen
[08:46] <bystander> stalagna: which install was that?
[08:47] <stalagna> let me bring it back up
[08:47] <stalagna> agt-something
[08:47] <dr_willis> :)
[08:47] <stalagna> I am buying me a book on linux tommarrow
[08:48] <stalagna> this is frustrating the hell out of me
[08:49] <Lafitte-> how do i blank a cd  in cdrecord ?
[08:49] <bob2> Lafitte-: man cdrecord, the -blank option.
[08:49] <Lafitte-> sudo cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc blank=all
[08:49] <stalagna> ok, he had me run apt-get install kubunto-desktop
[08:50] <stalagna> then i rank the KDE, logged out came back to gnome and had a blank screen
[08:50] <bystander> stalagna: can you still log into KDE ?
[08:51] <bystander> stalagna: choose it from sessions in the login screen
[08:51] <stalagna> i have to go back, I am in failsafe terminal
[08:51] <stalagna> or can i go from here
[08:52] <bystander> hmm - maybe type "exit" in the failsafe screen ( not sure)
[08:53] <martii> morning folks