[12:01] <louieb39> wow can I shut off these server messages for the room in gaim?
[12:01] <CharlieSu> aoirthoir: ok thanks...
[12:01] <Mirth> How do I find my Local IP address?
[12:01] <gesus> hello ubuntuers, this should be an easy one -- where can i change the default language settings so my dates in openoffice are displayed as day/month/year instead of the stupid US way?
[12:01] <Xenguy> Safe_: dpkg -l ttf*
[12:01] <CharlieSu> aoirthoir: have a URL?
[12:01] <kosnick> ardchoille : thx , it works
[12:01] <Xenguy> Safe_: then install some of them
[12:01] <ardchoille> Mirth: ifconfig
[12:01] <ardchoille> kosnick: You're welcome :)
[12:01] <Mirth> Thx ardchoille
[12:01] <Safe_> thanks
[12:01] <aoirthoir> Darth_Simpson: you might be able to do all of that it depends on how forceful your apps (in this case the dev thing) is about its location..for instance I can install firefox from a downlaod just by unpacking and it doesnt need to be in a special place see?
[12:01] <erika> can i use windows live messenger? through wine?
[12:01] <Enselic> erika: for MSN support you can try Gaim or Kopete e.g.
[12:02] <aoirthoir> as to the fonts I dont know where they come from
[12:02] <alex_ndc> hi people, I have a problem with Ubuntu Edgy ... my microphone does not capture anything ... the only way I can get it to capture anything is if I activate the microphone playback ... can someone help me please ?
[12:02] <Enselic> erika: for Ubuntu, try Gaim first
[12:02] <Darth_Simpson> aoirthoir: Thanks, I think so. I just downloaded it using "apt-get source liblame-dev" and that worked fine, it unpacked itself right into $HOME.
[12:02] <Enselic> erika: sudo apt-get install gaim
[12:02] <aoirthoir> erika probably not but gaim has most features you need..and there are other chat programs that will have even more..like video
[12:02] <erika> Enselic, Gaim not Supported Webcam :<
[12:02] <aoirthoir> Darth_Simpson: cool then
[12:02] <aoirthoir> erika there are other chat clients that do support webcam ..hold on I will get a list
[12:03] <Enselic> erika: Kopete does iirc, worth checking out I guess
[12:03] <aoirthoir> ah,,,Kopete thats the one
[12:03] <aoirthoir> CharlieSu: one sec
[12:03] <erika> aoirthoir, sure.. give me webcam supported
[12:03] <tri> does anyone know how to get an  NVIDIA_NF2_114_WINXP.EXE
[12:03] <tri> nVIDIA NFORCE2 Chipset Driver (Audio, LAN, AGP, SMBus, Memory Controller, IDE)
[12:03] <tri> working
[12:03] <erika> aoirthoir, any yahoo webcam supported?
[12:03] <erika> Enselic, is kopete supported yahoo webcam?
[12:03] <Enselic> !nvidia > tri
[12:04] <Enselic> erika: I guess yes, but Im not sure
[12:04] <aoirthoir> http://www.ubuntu.com/search/node/feisty
[12:04] <aoirthoir> erika perhaps in kopete...i know that webcams are supported in lots of programs...
[12:04] <aoirthoir> erika just not gaim for sure.
[12:04] <Taime1> i am reconfiguring my xorg, but when it asks me to give it a bus id, i type what lspci gave me, and i get this error: "invalid bus id"
[12:04] <Taime1> why?
[12:04] <vB|don> louieb39 is a cool kid :D
[12:05] <aoirthoir> louieb39: is crazy:) I dig him
[12:05] <gesus> hello ubuntuers, this should be an easy one -- where can i change the default language settings so my dates in openoffice are displayed as day/month/year instead of the US way
[12:05] <gesus> ??
[12:05] <erika> Enselic, .. if i want some windows programme in Ubuntu.. then can i use that programmes? like .exe ?
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: what did you type?
[12:05] <Taime1> 00:02.1
[12:05] <louieb39> ha thanks guys.
[12:05] <Enselic> erika: some programs, yes, with wine
[12:05] <tri> its a nic driver in that chipset that doesn't work - the drivers list the onboard video as a different driver
[12:05] <erika> aoirthoir, Is there any other Messenger supports yahoo n msn webcam?
[12:05] <Taime1> as per lspci
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: try 00:02:1
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: or 0:2:1
[12:05] <aoirthoir> erika: rarely. Occasionaly a program called wine can be made to make some windows programs work...but even then there are lots of issues
[12:05] <Enselic> latter first
[12:05] <aoirthoir> erika I dont use webcam so I dont know
[12:05] <Enselic> Taime1: latter first
[12:06] <aoirthoir> erika..for instance msn messenger wont work with wine typically
[12:06] <erika> ok.
[12:06] <tri> Enselic its a nic driver in that chipset that doesn't work - the drivers list the onboard video as a different driver
[12:06] <aoirthoir> pagans are not allowed..which means me and karl have to leave
[12:06] <aoirthoir> :P
[12:06] <RandomizeR> can someone please help! i'm using edgy and beryl on AIGLX and whenever i install the ATI Radeon 9000 driver beryl stops working and i get really slow graphics output :-s
[12:06] <KarlThePagan> O.o :P
[12:06] <Taime1> okay, that got me to the next screen.... is that going to ruin my computer if its not correct?
[12:06] <AmaroqWolf> erika: http://www.winehq.com
[12:07] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: you guys saw the evil ubuntu URL above? ;-)
[12:07] <aoirthoir> erika..remember most of the choices you made before...while occasionally technically able to do some things ...required yo uto give up lots of your freedom
[12:07] <greig_> while on the subject of wine, does wine have/require an opengl? i nkow this is not the wine channel, just thought id ask.
[12:07] <poningru> !beryl | RandomizeR
[12:07] <ubotu> RandomizeR: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:07] <l90bpm> http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/
[12:07] <aoirthoir> Xenguy: my boss came in a few minutes ago (thus the reason I went quite...) i had to help him with some things...so I missed it
[12:07] <Xenguy> hehe
[12:07] <erika> aoirthoir,  i just want to use webcam :< on msn or yahoo..
[12:07] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: what l90bpm said
[12:07] <aoirthoir> erika are you in ubuntu right now
[12:07] <erika> AmaroqWolf,  ty.
[12:07] <aoirthoir> Xenguy: i just clicked on it
[12:08] <erika> aoirthoir,  ya using dapper-drake
[12:08] <Enselic> tri: sorry, cant help
[12:08] <aoirthoir> RandomizeR: beryl lets you use three d for your desktop..not just games
[12:08] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: the pentagram is a little, er... upside-down =)
[12:08] <l90bpm> I just worship idols though, not satan
[12:08] <RandomizeR> poningru: ok, thx.. sry for asking in the wrong channel :")
[12:08] <aoirthoir> erika no maam I am in edgy
[12:08] <AmaroqWolf> erika: you're welcome
[12:08] <aoirthoir> I find edgy superior
[12:08] <Taime1> if i have an integrated card, how much dedicated memory should i allow?
[12:08] <KarlThePagan> I also worship idols... and the human carnal vessel
[12:08] <erika> aoirthoir,  :> i m using ubuntu-dapper
[12:08] <Enselic> Taime1: at least 64000
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: you have intel integrated?
[12:09] <aoirthoir> count me bookmarked
[12:09] <Taime1> 128 ok?
[12:09] <RandomizeR> aoirthoir: yeah, beryl is working just fine without installing the ATI driver, but i need to install it cuz i'm working on OGRE and i need full graphics support
[12:09] <erika> aoirthoir,  well nevamind .. better i read the documentation on web.
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: sure, but write it in right multiples to be sure
[12:09] <aoirthoir> erika this shouldnt matter....try installing kopote as suggested and see if it works
[12:09] <vitalstatistix> anyone here realize delayed resume from s3 suspend using the nvidia drivers
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: 131 231 or whatever it becomes
[12:09] <Taime1> 128000 right?
[12:09] <Enselic> Taime1: 1024 * 128
[12:09] <Taime1> oh...
[12:09] <AmaroqWolf> lmfao ubuntu satanic edition!?
[12:09] <aoirthoir> erika: try it..maybe you wont need to read the docs
[12:09] <Xenguy> hahah
[12:10] <erika> aoirthoir,  maybe.
[12:10] <aoirthoir> AmaroqWolf: Xenguy ive got that site bookmarked
[12:10] <Taime1> im not sure i understand that, im sorry
[12:10] <aoirthoir> erika you are too young for webcam anyhow
[12:10] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: pretty funny
[12:10] <AtlanticBoy> does ubuntu feisty come with gnome 2.18 ?
[12:10] <Enselic> Taime1: see what 1024 * 128 becomes, and write that value for VideoRam
[12:10] <aoirthoir> Xenguy: i really am pagan..lots of pagans are against satanism (its a matter of convenience for them) I read their books..didnt do as much for me as I thought..but sites like this rock
[12:10] <Enselic> Taime1: not sure it is necessary, you could try with 128000 and change if there is problems
[12:10] <Taime1> 131072
[12:10] <erika> aoirthoir,  ya i m newbie too :)
[12:10] <l90bpm> have you all seen the jesus edition yet?
[12:11] <l90bpm> one sec
[12:11] <aoirthoir> AtlanticBoy: they were working on 2.17 last I heard
[12:11] <bh_> AtlanticBoy, yes
[12:11] <ardchoille> aoirthoir , l90bpm Please take this stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <aoirthoir> l90bpm: there is an UbuntuCE (christian edition)
[12:11] <Enselic> Taime1: if you have an intel integrated card, you might want to set CacheLines 1980 as well
[12:11] <aoirthoir> erika thats ok we all are in some ways.:)
[12:11] <l90bpm> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html
[12:11] <roll> where is are the resources for the extremely converted guys to ubuntu?
[12:11] <gvc> !nvidia
[12:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:11] <Xenguy> aoirthoir: yep, I'm aware of the traditional pagan <-> satanist divide, hence my 'ducking' ;-)
[12:11] <Taime1> use kernel frambuffer device?
[12:11] <AtlanticBoy> bh_, thank you
[12:11] <aoirthoir> yup that is the one
[12:12] <erika> aoirthoir,  ty :)
[12:12] <bh_> AtlanticBoy, you're welcome
[12:12] <aoirthoir> erika yw...let us know if it works man
[12:12] <Mirth> Where does Wine keep all the Windows programs?
[12:12] <AmaroqWolf> Mirth: ~/.wine/drive_c
[12:12] <erika> aoirthoir,  i think i install it.. but in GNOME... now im using KDE i aint find WINE in programmes
[12:12] <aoirthoir> i am in #ubuntu-offtopic also
[12:13] <Mirth> Thanks AmaroqWolf
[12:13] <Zamber> can anyone help me with my boot sequence? I want to have a nice boot under 40s ;) here is my bootchart http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3339/edgy200703232lt6.png any tips?
[12:13] <AmaroqWolf> You're welcome Mirth.
[12:13] <Bluhd> d
[12:13] <aoirthoir> erika you dont need wine for kopote nor do you need kde
[12:13] <Bluhd> ...disregard that lone letter
[12:13] <aoirthoir> you can run it fine in gnome
[12:13] <erika> aoirthoir,  na man i m ruiing kde
[12:13] <aoirthoir> most gnome and kde apps will run fine under the other WM
[12:13] <erika> aoirthoir,  ya that was i m saying i installed it in GNOME
[12:13] <aoirthoir> Mirth: wine doesnt install programs..you have to do it yourself
[12:14] <aoirthoir> ok erika give me a sec and I will see if I have it
[12:14] <Mirth> Oh, I know that, hehe
[12:14] <erika> sur
[12:14] <ninetailz> What was the command for extracting tarballs?
[12:14] <ardchoille> ninetailz: .tar.gz? .tar.bz2? .tar?
[12:14] <bruenig> ninetailz, tar xf
[12:14] <Mirth> Just trying to set my Torrents to open with utorrent by default in Firefox
[12:14] <ninetailz> thanks
[12:14] <Mirth> But couldn't find the directory
[12:14] <aoirthoir> erika check your Applications menu/INternet it should be there..if not log out and relogin (sometimes gnome doesnt place apps right and you have to do that)
[12:14] <AmaroqWolf> aoirthoir, Mirth: you can install programs in wine, by running their .exe's under wine.
[12:14] <aoirthoir> mirth you dont need torrents to install wine
[12:14] <erika> aoirthoir,  oki..
[12:14] <stepanstas> how do i add #ubuntu to my Gaim buddy list
[12:15] <aoirthoir> mirth go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ and follow the directions for getting wine setup
[12:15] <ardchoille> bruenig: Will "tar xzf" use bzip if it is a .tar.bz2 or gzip if it is a .tar.gz ?
[12:15] <aoirthoir> AmaroqWolf: aye
[12:15] <ninetailz> Damn, installing programs for linux really is a pain in the ass
[12:15] <ninetailz> always some package missing
[12:15] <bruenig> ardchoille, tar xf does it all
[12:15] <bruenig> Mirth, you can't really do that. The best way to do it is have firefox automatically download torrents to a particular directory and then configure utorrent to automatically load torrents that show up in that directory
[12:15] <ardchoille> bruenig: Ah, ok. Thanks for that :)
[12:15] <aoirthoir> ninetailz: you need to install from the repositories..then you wont have that problem ..go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:15] <AmaroqWolf> mirth: http://www.winehq.com their download section has instructions on how to add their repository to your repositories list, so you can apt-get wine and also recieve updates to it.
[12:15] <AmaroqWolf> or whoever asked. xD
[12:16] <aoirthoir> ninetailz: ubuntu almost never has that issue unless you downloaded the program yourself directly
[12:16] <Kooka> cya all
[12:16] <Enselic> aoirthoir: to be picky, neither GNOME nor KDE is a WM
[12:16] <Mirth> OKay, will try thar out
[12:16] <Mirth> that*
[12:16] <aoirthoir> Enselic: i was using shorthand
[12:16] <AngryElf> I'm trying to set up a PXE server and one of the steps is enabling tftpd, in inetd.conf -- I restarted inetd and tftp still isn't showing up in netstat -uap (howto here: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server) -- any ideas why?
[12:17] <acemo> is there anyway that i can set mplayer as default for all filetypes it supports?
[12:17] <ninetailz> Yea, installing from repositories is easy
[12:18] <ninetailz> i just wanted to learn to install the other wya
[12:18] <bruenig> acemo, right click on a file, select preferences and then change the open with. You will have to do that once for each filetype.
[12:18] <richdurhm> hey u guys knwo of a program to convert avi and to burn to play in dvd player allinone preferable
[12:18] <richdurhm> ?
[12:18] <acemo> bruenig, problem there, i dont have most of the file types on my pc
[12:19] <Taime1> xorg config wants to know what modules should be loaded by default.. do i tell it to laod all of them??
[12:19] <cosmocain> as avi's a container format you got to at least stae which codec you got
[12:19] <clearzen> richdurhm: first you have to convert it to a mpeg and then you can use dvd author
[12:19] <cosmocain> state+
[12:19] <bruenig> richdurhm, devede will convert an avi to a dvd ready iso, Then you will have to burn the iso with another application. That is the closest one to all-in-one.
[12:19] <ardchoille> richdurhm: avidemux to convert and devede to burn to dvd
[12:19] <bruenig> ardchoille, devede can burn?
[12:19] <richdurhm> thnx guys!!! :)
[12:19] <ardchoille> bruenig: Yep, made a dvd yesterday
[12:20] <bruenig> ardchoille, oh I must just pick iso for some reason each time
[12:20] <bruenig> well if it can burn, then it can do all of it, convert avi to mpeg, then to iso, then burn
[12:20] <ardchoille> bruenig: Oh, you're right, it creates an ISO. my bad.
[12:20] <st0nedcordes> bruenig: cool
[12:20] <ardchoille> bruenig: I was thinking of xdvdshrink
[12:21] <bruenig> ardchoille, oh
[12:21] <richdurhm> ardchoille,  do u have gaim to maybe further guide me im desperate lol
[12:21] <bruenig> I don't know why they don't just add burn, it wouldn't be that hard with growisofs
[12:21] <richdurhm> y i hate using windows to do so but i love linux
[12:21] <ardchoille> richdurhm: I have never used an IM clients :(
[12:21] <richdurhm> really
[12:21] <ardchoille> bruenig: I totally agree.
[12:21] <richdurhm> ardchoille, ok il talk to u on irc if ur willing
[12:21] <RoundyT1> i need some FREENX help
[12:22] <RoundyT1> it keeps saying "Session Startup Failed"
[12:22] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Sure :)
[12:22] <richdurhm> ardchoille,  thnx
[12:23] <mike__> I have tried ubuntu herd 5 on my new laptop,It detects wireless "atheros' but browsing the net is inconsistant ,?
[12:23] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: freenx can be finicky, for sure...
[12:23] <RoundyT1> Xenguy i
[12:23] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: I spent lots of time getting it going some time ago
[12:23] <RoundyT1> Xenguy i'm using it over the LAN trying to access my server...?
[12:23] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: rocks when it works tho
[12:23] <Chai_Sangeen> hello
[12:23] <Taime1> horizontal sync rates?? help plese? im trying to configure x correctly
[12:23] <RoundyT1> Xenguy is that how im supposed to use it?
[12:23] <bruenig> !howdy | Chai_Sangeen
[12:23] <ubotu> Chai_Sangeen: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:24] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: all I can suggest is that you google the error messages - I spent a lot of time doing that
[12:24] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, heeey
[12:24] <ardchoille> Taime1: I would suggest googling your monitor make and model to get those proper rates
[12:24] <michael117> How can I investigate what programs and services/daemons are slowing down my computer the most and taking up the most ram and cpu resources to speed it up?
[12:24] <bruenig> michael117, top
[12:24] <Taime1> its a laptop
[12:24] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: sure, you can use it on a LAN, or over the Net
[12:24] <ardchoille> michael117: Open a terminal and run top
[12:24] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, i installed ubuntu using the alternate cd but not sure why it didnt install madwifi drivers ... im using first gen macbook
[12:25] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, it was installed by default on last install
[12:25] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: make sure that ssh authentication is not a problem
[12:25] <ninetailz> Anyone using Tilda?
[12:25] <bruenig> michael117, or install htop for a more intuitive navigation
[12:25] <michael117> I've run top but all that really comes up is xorg and firefox
[12:25] <bruenig> Chai_Sangeen, ask the channel, not me, I don't know by the way
[12:25] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: you may have to find and use an older version of the freenx client too
[12:25] <kev_> i want to instal xfire for linux how do i do that, is it on a repository somewhere?
[12:26] <mike__> anyone having probs with theros wifi?
[12:26] <bruenig> michael117, close xorg
[12:26] <mike__> atheros
[12:26] <kev_> !xfire
[12:26] <michael117> and sometimes the hard drive is getting accessed randomly
[12:26] <Chai_Sangeen> bruenig, okay no prob...
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: but if you google and read long enough you'll come across that issue too
[12:26] <Farhadix> I have a modem with HDA technology, but It seems 2.6.15 kernel is not support this technology, then i wanna Upgrade my kernel to 2.6.17, how I can do this?
[12:26] <ninetailz> !tilda
[12:26] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 32 kB, installed size 148 kB
[12:26] <michael117> bruenig: but then I'm stuck at terminal
[12:26] <bruenig> michael117, all you really need
[12:26] <michael117> bruenig: lol...
[12:26] <RoundyT1> NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1
[12:26] <rpc> anyone using utorrent with wine here?
[12:26] <ardchoille> kev_: What is xfire?
[12:27] <michael117> rpc: I use azureus on my home server
[12:27] <crdlb> rpc, if you need something light, try rtorrent
[12:27] <Chai_Sangeen>  i installed ubuntu using the alternate cd but not sure why it didnt install madwifi drivers ... im using first gen macbook can anyone help?
[12:27] <greig_> hi, can anyone advise me pls. when i try to go through the join channel option in xchat, xchat freezes
[12:27] <bruenig> rp__, am
[12:27] <Xenguy> rpc: nope, but ktorrent is worth a look perhaps
[12:27] <kev_> its a chat program for gameing
[12:27] <rpc> michael117 with wine?
[12:27] <bruenig> rpc, am
[12:27] <rpc> Xenguy how is the web gui working in ktorrent?
[12:27] <michael117> rpc: No, azureus is written java so it's portable, but java sucks
[12:27] <rpc> bruenig hm.. does web gui work fine?
[12:27] <Farhadix> anybody help?
[12:27] <Farhadix> I have a modem with HDA technology, but It seems 2.6.15 kernel is not support this technology, then i wanna Upgrade my kernel to 2.6.17, how I can do this?
[12:27] <bruenig> I don't use the webgui
[12:27] <rpc> michael117 oh yes... it does suck...
[12:28] <rpc> bruenig would you be able to try it? just for a sec, on localhost
[12:28] <clearzen>  michael117: at least it's portable
[12:28] <michael117> bruenig: do services show up in top?
[12:28] <Xenguy> rpc: dunno, I just started having a look at it; still mostly relying on azureus (which is quite the resource hog)
[12:28] <kev_> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=841
[12:28] <rpc> bruenig i wonder if it's worth installing at all as i need to use it over www but not sure if that works with wine
[12:28] <kev_> its a plugin for gaim how do i instal that?
[12:28] <michael117> Does rtorrent provide a way to automatically scan a directory for torrents and download torrents to a specific location?
[12:28] <rpc> Xenguy i still believe that utorrent+wine is a perfect combo
[12:29] <rpc> michael117 yes
[12:29] <rpc> but rtorrent = console and no www support
[12:29] <Xenguy> rpc: it's not "perfect" because it is not open source :-)
[12:29] <Xenguy> rpc: for one thing
[12:29] <RoundyT1> so wait....can i view my FREENX server if its only showing my command line?
[12:29] <rpc> Xenguy i trust it :)
[12:29] <michael117> Is it possible to just send commands to rtorrent without the ncurses interface?
[12:29] <will> I installed xfce. How do I use it?
[12:29] <BeepAU> Hi, I just did a fresh install of ubuntu edgy then a system update, I need to have these installed - Linux 2.6 kernel with kernel sources (or headers), GCC Compiler, Binutils, GNU Make, GTK/GLIB 2.0 libraries - can someone please give me a command to get all this stuff?
[12:29] <will> It won't run.
[12:29] <Dasnipa`> rpc nothing is 'perfect'
[12:30] <crdlb> michael117, rtorrent can monitor a directory for torrents
[12:30] <Xenguy> rpc: use whatever works for you; I seek FOSS solutions personally
[12:30] <RoundyT1> so wait....can i view my FREENX server if its only showing my command line?
[12:30] <misfit_toy> !window-decorator
[12:30] <rpc> Xenguy good point..
[12:30] <michael117> RoundyT1: What do you mean by "view"?
[12:31] <rpc> bruenig can you please help me and check if webgui works in wine? it won't take more than 3 mins
[12:31] <OuZo> anybody know how to do Message Tracking on ubuntu forums? thanks
[12:31] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: I don't think so - you need X display
[12:31] <bruenig> rpc, right I am getting the rar now
[12:31] <rpc> oh
[12:31] <crdlb> rpc, I send torrents to rtorrent via a ssh mount (to my torrent server) on my desktop
[12:31] <RoundyT1> michael117 I want to control my server...
[12:31] <rpc> thank you... sorry too
[12:31] <rpc> crdlb hmm...
[12:31] <michael117> rpc: Yes, it should... I've heard good things about utorrent well with wine
[12:31] <rpc> michael117 hm...
[12:31] <stepanstas> i used to have this channel saved in my buddy window in Gaim, how do i do that again?
[12:31] <RoundyT1> Ubuntu server---no X display installed, no nothing....can i view it via FREENX?
[12:32] <rpc> basically i'm only interested in web based torrent for some reasons
[12:32] <will> I installed xfce. How do I use it?
[12:32] <will> I installed xfce. How do I use it?
[12:32] <crdlb> rpc, look up torrentflux
[12:32] <rpc> so whatever works fine that way... it's fine by me :)
[12:32] <michael117> RoundyT1: Just ssh into it, change the configs for whatever, and make sure to restart the daemons
[12:32] <will> Sorry.
[12:32] <rpc> crdlb oh no... not that one..
[12:32] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: you need X (please prepend my nick if you are talking to me)
[12:32] <rpc> crdlb it can't compare to utorrent...
[12:32] <kev_> i have a problem, im trying to put files onto an external USB hard drive but when i try it says that disk is not writeable....how do i make it writeable??
[12:32] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: if you don't want X, then just use ssh
[12:32] <javaJake> kev_, is this a Windows-formatted hard drive?
[12:33] <kev_> yes its NTFS
[12:33] <RoundyT1> Xenguy so can I use it to login via VPN to a Cisco Router?
[12:33] <javaJake> kev_, OK, two seconds...
[12:33] <crdlb> rpc, rtorrent can :D
[12:33] <SeveredCross> You neet ntfs-3g. :)
[12:33] <rpc> kev_ use NTFS-3G driver
[12:33] <crdlb> imho
[12:33] <michael117> RoundyT1: If you are running any kind of decent server or plan to, you don't want any kind of graphics and no X
[12:33] <kev_> where or how do i get that?
[12:33] <ardchoille> will: Log out, then at the gdm screen choose the options button, find xfce and choose it then log in.
[12:33] <rpc> crdlb hm... rtorrent? webgui for it you mean?
[12:33] <RoundyT1> michael117 so can I use it to login via VPN to a Cisco Router?
[12:33] <Mirth> Another question!
[12:34] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: more details required, but VPN and Cisco is going to quickly go over my head, and probably many others :-)
[12:34] <RoundyT1> lol
[12:34] <RoundyT1> weird
[12:34] <skulrid> im looking for a player for my movies/divx. any recomendations?
[12:34] <Mirth> I have Photoshop 7 installed by Wine, and I want a "shortcut" to it on the desktop
[12:34] <RoundyT1> so what the heck is FreeNX even for?
[12:34] <Daemonik> If I install a "command line system" using the Ubuntu alternate disk will it install power management stuff (suspend etc) and set it up by default?
[12:34] <Mirth> I did Make link and put it on the desktop, and that didn't work
[12:34] <michael117> RoundyT1: SSH into the server, then telnet to the cisco router
[12:34] <SeveredCross> skulrid: mplayer, VLC...
[12:34] <skulrid> thnks
[12:34] <javaJake> kev_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[12:34] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: it is simple - it is a better VNC, for desktops, not servers
[12:35] <SeveredCross> Ohgood link.
[12:35] <richdurhm> hey guys how do install tar.bz2 's ??
[12:35] <kev_> thx :D
[12:35] <NaN_> Hey, my perl locale is all messed up, how can I fix this?
[12:35] <michael117> richdurhm: Extract them then ./configure and make install
[12:35] <Xenguy> richdurhm: bunzip2 will decompress
[12:35] <rpc> Mirth lol does PS7 work fine in wine?
[12:35] <crdlb> michael117, you forgot "make"
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc it does.
[12:36] <ardchoille> richdurhm: You have to unpack them (tar xjf file.tar.bz2) then go inside the created folder and read the README and INSTALL files.
[12:36] <rpc> oh lol.. nice
[12:36] <RoundyT1> what's the easiest thing to view Ebooks with? or should i say "PDF books"
[12:36] <Mirth> rpc, the compatibility is supposed to be perfect :)
[12:36] <bruenig> rpc, http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/utorrent.png
[12:36] <SeveredCross> RoundyT1: GhostView?
[12:36] <rpc> NaN_ isn't it laggy or something?
[12:36] <NaN_> RoundyT1 probably evince
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc not at all.
[12:36] <rpc> Mirth is it really working fine?
[12:36] <rpc> lol...
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc, i use it all the time.
[12:36] <rpc> nice
[12:36] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: xpdf, evince, and there are other pdf viewers
[12:36] <Mirth> Let me try it some more, I just installed it
[12:36] <BeepAU> Hi, I just did a fresh install of ubuntu edgy then a system update, I need to have these installed - Linux 2.6 kernel with kernel sources (or headers), GCC Compiler, Binutils, GNU Make, GTK/GLIB 2.0 libraries - can someone please give me a command to get all this stuff?
[12:36] <NaN_> rpc, you can even get PSCS2 working.
[12:36] <bruenig> should have blurred the stuff at the top I guess
[12:36] <bruenig> well it is password protected
[12:36] <rpc> NaN_ lmao...
[12:36] <RoundyT1> Well, they are books and I always find myself not liking the view it gives me for some reason
[12:37] <ardchoille> richdurhm: If it is a ./configure, make, make install process, you will have to "sudo apt-get install build-essential" if you haven't already done so
[12:37] <rpc> NaN_ how about ms office?
[12:37] <Mirth> I don't get the joke rpc :(
[12:37] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Use Synaptic and find the packages
[12:37] <RoundyT1> is there a way to make any pdf viewer show the as like a BOOK? page|page
[12:37] <NaN_> rpc afaik, you can run office in crossover.
[12:37] <rpc> Mirth oh it makes me laugh how strong wine became
[12:37] <jimmygoon> What is the new media center distro that just came out a few days ago...?
[12:37] <NaN_> rpc, but i prefer OOo
[12:37] <cosmocain> BeepAU: Use the Update-Manager
[12:37] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- do you know what they're called?
[12:37] <michael117> crdlb: I know to run rtorrent in screen but can I then also send commands to it without ncurses, such as "rtorrent --newtorrent blah.torrent --saveto /location/to/save/to" or something of that sort? Then I could make a script to do all the logic of sorting it
[12:37] <RoundyT1> is there a way to make any pdf viewer show the as like a BOOK? page|page
[12:37] <michael117> and a php interface
[12:37] <rpc> NaN_... not really sure, i do like gui in ms office 2003...
[12:37] <packetscan> can someone pastebin their lilo.conf file :p
[12:37] <Mirth> Im new to Linux, so I like to feel at home with some Windows apps :D
[12:38] <RoundyT1> is there a way to make any pdf viewer show them as like a BOOK? page|page
[12:38] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Just filter the list by name
[12:38] <ardchoille> !repeat | RoundyT1
[12:38] <ubotu> RoundyT1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:38] <rpc> Mirth does it take strong cpu and lots of ram to run wine for ps7?
[12:38] <Xenguy> !repeat | RoundyT1
[12:38] <SeveredCross> If you need the 2.6 kernel, just type linux kernel into the list, it'll show you a list of all packages relating to the kernel.
[12:38] <crdlb> michael117, no, but rtorrent can be made to monitor a directory such as /var/media/Torrents; any torrent placed in that folder will start downloading automatically
[12:38] <Mirth> I'm not sure rpc :(
[12:38] <Mirth> Haven't really done anything in it yet, hehe
[12:38] <SeveredCross> If you need gcc, type gcc.
[12:38] <rpc> Mirth ok
[12:38] <Xenguy> RoundyT1: don't repeat, or be ignored
[12:38] <sgrover> Running ubuntu 6.10 server with Apache.  Apache is refusing to honor the ProxyPass directive, but the exact same code works on another server.  mod_proxy enabled.  any tips?
[12:38] <misfit_toy> anyone using compiz have a suggestion for which "window-decorator" I should be using?
[12:39] <SeveredCross> Though, to get gcc, binutils, make, you might just be able to do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <Mirth> So can anyone teach me how to make a shortcut?
[12:39] <michael117> crdlb: So it will just throw all downloads to a single folder and blah, that's it?
[12:39] <SeveredCross> I think that grabs GCC, G++, Make, etc.
[12:39] <stepanstas> i  used to have this channel saved in my buddy window in Gaim, how do i do that again?
[12:39] <NaN_> I get `error: Unable to set locale.` when trying to do hp-setup, and i get warnings about it when installing things and doing various things.
[12:39] <Xenguy> Mirth: in GNOME it is called a launcher; or do you mean 'symlink' ?
[12:39] <michael117> Mirth: What kind of shortcut?
[12:39] <crdlb> michael117, yep, just save the .torrent file to that folder
[12:39] <rpc> well a good guy who was meant to help me out seems gone... anyone else able to tell me if webgui works in utorrent run under wine? and are there any problems at all?
[12:39] <Lattyware> How can I get azureus to quit cleanly on shutdown in ubuntu?
[12:39] <Mirth> I have no clue Xenguy :D
[12:40] <NaN_> rpc, i don't know, but i've heard good things about utorrent through wine.
[12:40] <Xenguy> Mirth: what do you want ?
[12:40] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- wil that get me Linux 2.6 kernel with kernel sources (or headers) and GTK/GLIB 2.0 libraries ?
[12:40] <rpc> NaN_ well yes me too but no one said about webgui yet.. but i believe it might work anyway
[12:40] <SeveredCross> Nope.
[12:40] <dauoalagio2> hello whenever i try to add a printer, the little window that pops up always dies non-responding
[12:40] <NaN_> rpc, you can check http://appdb.winehq.com for app status.
[12:40] <Mirth> Im trying to make a "Shortcut" of Photoshop 7 to my Desktop
[12:40] <michael117> crdlb: I like rtorrent because it seems so low in resources, but it is very unorganized because I can't specify what location to save to... do you know of any torrent client daemons?
[12:40] <SeveredCross> Those are separate BeepAU.
[12:40] <rpc> NaN_ oh nice, thank you!
[12:40] <Lattyware> It always takes it as a crash when you quit without closing it, which sucks, especially in feisty - as there is a bug where you have to delete settings when it crashes to get it to work again.
[12:40] <NaN_> rpc, no problem :]
[12:40] <dauoalagio2> rpc, i've gotten utorrent to work in wine perfectly
[12:40] <yeager_> hey guys... feisty works great on ps3!
[12:40] <Xenguy> Mirth: in GNOME, that is a launcher - just do a right-click etc.
[12:40] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- how can i get them?
[12:40] <rpc> dauoalagio2 did ya?
[12:41] <SeveredCross> For the kernel, you need to know exactly which kernel version you need, and the command would be something like sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.x.x-image or something like that.
[12:41] <dauoalagio2> yea, there is a guide, rpc
[12:41] <rpc> dauoalagio2 so does it work really well? no hogs, mem leaks etc?
[12:41] <NaN_> rpc, also, if you know anything about linux, you can tinker and fool around and get many things working that the site doesn't say works.
[12:41] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Using Synaptic is better, just filter the list.
[12:41] <rpc> NaN_ very cool, i will welcome my new friend wine very soon
[12:41] <dauoalagio2> rpc, it's ugly but i don't remember it crashing too many times.  it beats any linux torrent
[12:41] <Mirth> I don't see anything about Launchers when I right click it, Xenguy :(
[12:41] <rpc> dauoalagio2 and do you know about webgui in utorrent? will that work?
[12:41] <dauoalagio2> rpc, the web part? i never used it.
[12:42] <NaN_> I personally love btdownloadcurses :D
[12:42] <rpc> please check if only you can, i really need to know that from someone
[12:42] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- $ uname -r gets me 2.6.17-11-generic
[12:42] <SeveredCross> Well, you already have the 2.6 kernel then.
[12:42] <SeveredCross> You don't need another kernel. :)
[12:42] <Xenguy> Mirth: right-click on the desktop and look for 'create launcher'...
[12:42] <rpc> dauoalagio2 i don't want to access it, just see if it runs at all on localhost or so
[12:42] <NaN_> Can someone tell me how to fix my locale? I keep getting errors related to it. `error: Unable to set locale.`
[12:42] <Mirth> Oh...
[12:42] <BeepAU> SeveredCross --what about the kernel sources or headers thing?
[12:42] <SeveredCross> And if you're running Ubuntu, you have Gnome, so you probably have GTK 2+
[12:42] <dauoalagio2> rpc, i don't know give it a try
[12:42] <Xenguy> Mirth: tho you want this for windows program, so I'm not sure if that makes it more difficult...
[12:42] <Mirth> I was trying to right click Photoshop.exe and make a shortcut thing, hehe
[12:42] <Mirth> I'll try that Xenguy
[12:42] <Xenguy> Mirth: possibly yes
[12:42] <Mirth> Ah...
[12:42] <Lattyware> No one?
[12:43] <SeveredCross> BeepAU: Um, try sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.17-11-sources or something.
[12:43] <dauoalagio2> rpc, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[12:43] <SeveredCross> I'm telling you, use Synaptic....
[12:43] <Shaezsche> how can i upgrade from the latest alpha to the new beta?
[12:43] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$ sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[12:43] <acemo> FATAL: Module speedstep_centrino not found.
[12:43] <acemo> How can i get this to work?
[12:43] <BeepAU> SeveredCross -- i'll search in synaptic
[12:44] <NaN_> Mirth, you can open gedit and type in `wine /path/to/your/photoshop.exe` then save it on your desktop as Photoshop.. then open a terminal and chmod +x Desktop/Photoshop
[12:44] <rpc> dauoalagio2 thanks, reading up :)
[12:44] <blanky> questions questions!?
[12:44] <Mirth> I might have to do that NaN_
[12:44] <dauoalagio2> rpc, yep...remember that's intended for Dapper, so if you have edgy you may run into problems.  but i doubt anything serious
[12:44] <Mirth> Cause I'm losing so far, hehe
[12:44] <rpc> so which falvour of ubuntu do you recommend guys?
[12:44] <rpc> flavour*
[12:44] <bruenig> NaN_, don't forget the shabang
[12:44] <stepanstas> How do i add #ubuntu to my buddy list in Gaim?
[12:44] <NaN_> bruenig ?
[12:45] <bruenig> NaN_, #!/bin/bash
[12:45] <NaN_> ohhh yeah
[12:45] <NaN_> oops :P
[12:45] <rpc> dauoalagio2 you would recommend Dapper then, right?
[12:45] <bruenig> stepanstas, add an irc account and put that as one of your channels
[12:45] <Mirth> Yeah, when I did the Create a Launcher, it didn't work for Photoshop
[12:45] <MattJ> rpc: I use Xubuntu, just my personal favourite
[12:45] <NaN_> Mirth, at the top of the file you're making in Gedit, you probably want to put #! /bin/bash on the first line.
[12:45] <rpc> MattJ hmm
[12:46] <stepanstas> bruenig, how do i put it as one of the channels
[12:46] <dauoalagio2> rpc, no edgy is a lot prettier and more sstable.  it depends what  system you are on too.
[12:46] <hossasaur> hi, how do i check if my swap partition is on, or being used?
[12:47] <NaN_> rpc, upgrading from dapper to edgy causes a lot of problems if you have software that isn't in the repos.. or at least it used to, i don't know if it still does.
[12:47] <hossasaur> system resources always says 0% is being used
[12:47] <Lo_Pan> free -m
[12:47] <dauoalagio2> rpc, what kind of desktop do you want? Gnome  is basic, KDE is falshy, and xfce is fast as crap
[12:47] <bruenig> stepanstas, go to buddies and then it might say add channel or buddy or something, but go from there
[12:47] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: was that to me?
[12:47] <Lo_Pan> yes
[12:47] <NaN_> I prefer fluxbox :D
[12:47] <Shaezsche> is 10% non-contiguous abnormal?
[12:47] <dauoalagio2> and there's fluxbox haha
[12:47] <bruenig> gnome is for retarded children, kde is crammed with garbage, xfce is fast and empty
[12:47] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: it says 2117 free, 0 used
[12:47] <NaN_> gnome is nice.
[12:48] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: for swap,that is
[12:48] <dauoalagio2> true brueing, what do you run
[12:48] <stepanstas> bruenig, thanks man, i saw the buddies, but not the channel
[12:48] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: yeah, looks like it's all good then
[12:48] <stepanstas> bruenig, i appresiate it
[12:48] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: does that mean it's turned off?
[12:48] <rpc> dauoalagio2 i need a fast and stable one :) and i need to get to utorrent under wine as fast as possible...
[12:48] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: nah, it'd say 0 total if that was the case
[12:48] <rpc> dauoalagio2 and i know ZERO about it yet..
[12:48] <bruenig> rpc, getting utorrent under wine going is just as easy on all of them
[12:49] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: so do certain apps use swap space? i'm assuming gnome doesn't?
[12:49] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: it just means it has had nothing worth paging to the disk yet
[12:49] <rpc> bruenig but i'm not sure about the X system.. i'm a console guy..
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: wouldn't it be easier to just use a linux native client
[12:49] <dauoalagio2> well rpc, ubuntu is the system and the display managers is how it looks, gnome flux etc are display stuff.  so i would go with ubuntu 6.10 and chose which one you like best
[12:49] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: you'll start swapping when your physical memory gets near completely utilized
[12:49] <dauoalagio2> rpc, brueing is right it doesn
[12:49] <dauoalagio2> t matter
[12:49] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, well no webgui which is important to rpc
[12:49] <rpc> bruenig btw were you able to check webgui? sorry to bug you again but i really would love to know
[12:49] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: but that'll never happen....
[12:49] <bruenig> rpc, yeah it works perfect
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: webgui?...
[12:49] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: then you probably will never page to disk
[12:49] <kalle_> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <rpc> bruenig really? sweeet :) thank you so much!
[12:50] <StevenX> Hello room. I have a toshiba laptop and I can't get ubuntu to run. I tried it on the desktop, and it works. What's going on?
[12:50] <hossasaur> Lo_Pan: thank you, sir
[12:50] <Lo_Pan> hossasaur: nurries mate
[12:50] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, yeah you can open up your client in a browser from anywhere and add stuff and check stuff and such
[12:50] <rpc> dauoalagio2 ok.. i decided on ubuntu 6.10, getting the iso
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: i see
[12:50] <NaN_> Can someone please help me fix my locale? I keep getting errors and warnings telling me "Unable to set locale"
[12:50] <rbil> rpc: make sure it's the 32bit variety
[12:51] <_platinum_> Hi
[12:51] <dauoalagio2> rpc, good because i hear when you want to update from dapper to edgy it causes problems with nautilus
[12:51] <_platinum_> When i install programs using the repositories
[12:51] <_platinum_> where do they go?
[12:51] <rpc> rbil oh hm... how about my X2 4600+ ?
[12:51] <rbil> no wine for 64bit
[12:51] <rpc> rbil wouldn't it be better to use 64bit then? or too many probs with that still?
[12:51] <rpc> err... oh i see
[12:51] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, looks like this, http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/utorrentwebui.png
[12:51] <rpc> thanks for the hint o_O
[12:51] <richdurhm> how do i install tar.bz2s man im lost no read me file or nothing
[12:52] <jrib> richdurhm: what are you trying to install?
[12:52] <rpc> bruenig wee let me see that too..
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: hmm, interesting, guess i've never needed that feature so KTorrent has always worked well for me
[12:52] <AmaroqWolf> lol richdurhm, tar.bz2's are just zip files basically
[12:52] <rpc> bruenig yes yes yes :)
[12:52] <jrib> !fhs > _platinum_    (fhs, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <richdurhm> yes
[12:52] <jrib> _platinum_: dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME   will list all the files installed
[12:52] <richdurhm> jrib hey dude
[12:52] <jrib> richdurhm: hi
[12:52] <bruenig> rpc, I tried adding torrents and stuff, that worked too just so you know it is operational
[12:53] <rpc> bruenig thank you! you really made my day :)
[12:53] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Gimma a link to the tar.bz2 file and I'll check it out.
[12:53] <richdurhm> umm avidemux and deede
[12:53] <richdurhm> devede
[12:53] <bruenig> !devede
[12:53] <_platinum_> thanks
[12:53] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[12:53] <rpc> bruenig i was using winbloze vm just to run utorrent.. now i can throw it into bin..
[12:53] <richdurhm> http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede_es.html
[12:53] <zim> hi all
[12:53] <jrib> richdurhm: have you enabled multiverse?  Both of those things are in multiverse
[12:53] <AngryElf_> what's the nix equivolent of tracert from windows?
[12:53] <richdurhm> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html
[12:54] <rpc> AngryElf mtr
[12:54] <richdurhm> jrib,  yes sir
[12:54] <NaN_> AngryElf_: traceroute
[12:54] <cliebow> traceroute
[12:54] <bruenig> richdurhm, are you on edgy or dapper?
[12:54] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Go into the folder created by the tar comand you used to unpackit. Then do: sudo sh install.sh
[12:54] <jrib> richdurhm: then you can just do:  sudo aptitude install devede avidemux
[12:54] <OuZo> anybody know a good linux flight simulator?
[12:54] <StevenX> Hello room. I have a toshiba laptop and I can't get ubuntu to run. I tried it on the desktop, and it works. What's going on?
[12:54] <bengold> hey could someone answer a couple of quick noob questions
[12:54] <zim> how can i get du to just give me the total ie: var = 12gig nothing else
[12:54] <ardchoille> richdurhm: avidemux is in the repos, you shouldn't be installing it from source.
[12:54] <ardchoille> !avidemux
[12:54] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[12:54] <bruenig> !someone | bengold
[12:54] <ubotu> bengold: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:54] <bruenig> but I know for one that devede is a edgy only thing
[12:54] <richdurhm> ok
[12:55] <ardchoille> !info devede Edgy
[12:55] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[12:55] <bruenig> !info devede dapper
[12:55] <ubotu> Package devede does not exist in dapper
[12:55] <KalleDK> !info cdemu
[12:55] <ardchoille> richdurhm: Ignore my last two comments, it seems that both avidemux and devede are in the Edgy repos.
[12:55] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:55] <richdurhm> ardchoille,  ok it is in the repos
[12:55] <richdurhm> devede is also
[12:55] <bengold> oh sorry, If I make a partition when installing ubuntu that means I can still have windows on the computer too right?
[12:55] <rbil> OuZo: http://www.flightgear.org/
[12:56] <bengold> so nothing will happen to windows on it already?
[12:56] <merijnb> is the feisty beta iso supposed to work on all hardware? Mine gives a 'abnormal program end' on modprobe and puts me in a busybox prompt
[12:56] <richdurhm> Bengold yes
[12:56] <ant__> !dualboot | bengold
[12:56] <ubotu> bengold: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:56] <OuZo> rbil: thanks :)
[12:56] <dauoalagio2> what is the point of a flight simulator? is it a game?
[12:56] <richdurhm> dauoalagio2,  yes
[12:56] <hossasaur> bengold: is windows on an ntfs partition?
[12:57] <richdurhm> dauoalagio2,  no point just game
[12:57] <dauoalagio2> oh okay
[12:57] <NaN_> can someone PLEASE help me fix my locale? LC_ALL is blank, and it says "Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory"
[12:57] <bengold> hossasaur: again I'm a noob, a windows noob too I'm really a mac user
[12:57] <merijnb> is there a feisty specific channel?
[12:57] <andi5> NaN_: what is "it"? ... there are also LANG, LANGUAGE and some LC_* variables
[12:57] <rbil> dauoalagio2: typically not as much a game as a way to learn how to fly
[12:57] <bruenig> merijnb, #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <hossasaur> bengold: it's ok, i recently made the switch from vista to ubuntu
[12:58] <NaN_> andi5, when i type "locale" thats what the top says.
[12:58] <steevz> eh
[12:58] <dauoalagio2> rbil, you can learn to fly a plane through it?
[12:58] <rbil> yes
[12:58] <rbil> that's what it's designed for
[12:58] <coopster> pastie: gimmie a hand?
[12:58] <dauoalagio2> oh
[12:58] <dauoalagio2> okay
[12:58] <bruenig> dauoalagio2, you better watch out, NSA is logging this chat, they might come get you, be careful
[12:58] <coopster> bah
[12:58] <hossasaur> bengold: if you're referring to a vista install on an ntfs partition, you have to be careful.  gparted (the partition manager that comes on the ubuntu live cd) can mess up the vista install
[12:58] <dauoalagio1> i will, brueing
[12:59] <andi5> NaN_: does `env -i locale' work?
[12:59] <zim> can anyone tell me how to get du on the command line to spit out just the total ie: du -something var
[12:59] <bengold> hossasaur: this is a vista machine :O
[12:59] <hossasaur> bengold: between rewriting the mbr and resizing an ntfs partition, you'll corrupt the install of vista.  it's happened to many and it happened to me
[12:59] <bruenig> zim, the total what?
[12:59] <maccam94> is there a way to accelerate the download speed of apt downloads? i've got a good two hours of d/lling ahead of me if it stays at this 85KB/s rate, and I usually get 350KB/s in firefox etc...
[12:59] <zim> ie 20g
[12:59] <weggpod> hy all
[12:59] <bruenig> zim, of a particular directory?
[12:59] <dauoalagio1> ubuntu owns vista
[12:59] <weggpod> sorry for my bad english
[12:59] <zim> not the size of each dir in it to
[12:59] <bengold> hossasaur: what if the computer came with vista?
[01:00] <weggpod> i need help for a disk problem
[01:00] <zim> all in on
[01:00] <hossasaur> bengold: that's what i'm talking about
[01:00] <andi5> then the computer owns vista...
[01:00] <zim> not miles of scrolling
[01:00] <jefh> hi
[01:00] <zim> all i want to know is how big the dir is
[01:00] <NaN_> andi5, it echos a bunch of stuff, but i can't change anything.
[01:00] <NaN_> andi5: LANG is blank as well as LC_ALL
[01:01] <jefh> is there a way to make it so that you can only access a folder with a password?
[01:01] <bengold> so I'm guess I should not do anything yet because I cant get rid of windows on it , that's why i bought the pc
[01:01] <weggpod> i have an access disk every 5 seconds but i don't know why,   i don't swap, and when i kill x and other useless application, this problem persist
[01:01] <weggpod> on another os, i don't ave this probleme
[01:01] <mike__> 7.04 work ok wireless,,"atheros"?
[01:01] <hossasaur> bengold: my advice is to boot into ubuntu live cd, use gparted to resize the partition
[01:01] <ant__> zim : try a 'man du' to learn its flags
[01:01] <rbil> zim: probably this would work ... du | tail --lines=1
[01:01] <andi5> NaN_: env | sed '/^LC/!d' ?
[01:01] <hossasaur> bengold: before installing ubuntu, reboot into vista to make sure it'll still boot
[01:01] <weggpod> Need help please
[01:01] <greig_> Help please, i just ran a game through wine (call of duty) and when returning to desktop it looks horrible, the colours are all messed up, all i can say its as if its in a safe mode, can anyone advice how to return it to normal, ITS SOO  BRIGHT, i need sunglass's lol
[01:02] <bruenig> zim, well something like "du -hc /directory 2> /dev/null | grep total"
[01:02] <octoberdan> I just tried to put into a new kernel I just installed, but it "kernel panic"ed and I had to boot into my old kernel. How do I access the log specific to the failed startup? Was it logged at all or will I have to reboot with paper and pencil?
[01:02] <hossasaur> bengold: everything should be fine if it boots
[01:02] <kev_> where does one find the gaim plugin folder?
[01:02] <zim> ty
[01:02] <jefh> reset the resolution config
[01:02] <NaN_> andi5, nothing gets echo'd
[01:02] <greig_> jefh : is there  a command for that?
[01:02] <bruenig> zim, the 2> is only necessary because of permission denied errors, so if you don't expect to get permission denied errors, then you can drop it
[01:02] <bengold> really just the live cd could mess up vista?
[01:02] <bruenig> or I should say the 2> /dev/null
[01:02] <maccam94> just a live cd cannot hurt windows
[01:02] <steevz> fck Vista!
[01:02] <octoberdan> *boot into, not "put into"
[01:02] <andi5> NaN_: but `locale -a' shows you something, right?
[01:02] <maccam94> it doesn't touch the hd
[01:03] <weggpod> 1046 people and noone can help me
[01:03] <octoberdan> Not sure why I said put...
[01:03] <zim> why so complicated
[01:03] <NaN_> lemme try locale -a
[01:03] <jefh> gmaybe go onto preferences and just change the resolution and then change it back again
[01:03] <_platinum_> Can someone please help me fix TILDA?
[01:03] <NaN_> yes, locale -a shows a bunch of stuff.
[01:03] <dauoalagio1> !someone
[01:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:03] <bruenig> zim, du -hc /directory | grep total should do generally, but if you do /var for instance, you will get permission denied errors that will show up as well as the total
[01:03] <zim> is there another command that will tell you the size of a dir
[01:03] <hossasaur> bengold: it's not the live cd messing up windows.  it's you resizing an ntfs partition and rewriting your master boot record with grub.  it's not like a regular trip to the doctor, it's like reconstructive surgery
[01:03] <andi5> NaN_: choose one (like en_US.utf8)... does `LANG=en_US.UTF-8 locale' work?
[01:03] <kev_> can anyone tell me where to find the Gaim plugin folder ?
[01:04] <_platinum_> !anyone
[01:04] <johnficca> anyone running feisty fawn beta on 64 bit CPUs?
[01:04] <richdurhm> does anyone know hwo to use avidemux?
[01:04] <bruenig> johnficca, #ubuntu+1
[01:04] <maccam94> weggpod, is there anything in the output of "ps ax"?
[01:04] <bruenig> richdurhm, I do
[01:04] <_platinum_> Key Incorrect -- Read the README or tilda.sf.net for info, rerun as 'tilda -C' to set keybinding
[01:04] <_platinum_> : Success
[01:04] <jefh> what is avidemux?
[01:04] <ardchoille> !avidemux
[01:04] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[01:04] <bruenig> jefh, avidemux allows you to edit avis
[01:04] <NaN_> andi5: yes, LANG is now filled in. what should LC_ALL be?
[01:04] <hossasaur> bengold: all i'm saying is that after you resize your ntfs partition with gparted, add your ext2 or ext3 partition for ubuntu, add your swap partition, however you want to set it up, reboot into vista to make sure it still works
[01:04] <zim> i was using var as an example what i use du for alot is my www dir and there is loads in that
[01:04] <rbil> zim: what's complicated about this?     du | tail --lines=1
[01:04] <hossasaur> bengold: if it still works, then reboot into live cd, install ubuntu
[01:04] <andi5> NaN_: empty
[01:05] <weggpod> maccam94, nothing which write cyclily on the ard drive
[01:05] <hossasaur> bengold: after that, grub should recognize vista, if not, there's tutorials on how to fix that
[01:05] <NaN_> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory --- so is that normal?
[01:05] <jefh> google avidemux
[01:05] <zim> not alot just you would think du would have it built in
[01:05] <ubuntu> what application is compat. w/yahoo messege
[01:05] <ant__> bengold : before you resize your ntfs partition make sure to defrag and be aware you still may lose data
[01:05] <_platinum_> (tilda:31779): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[01:05] <hossasaur> bengold: but what you REALLY don't want is for gparted to fuck up your oem vista install
[01:05] <jefh> lots of wikis on avidemux
[01:05] <_platinum_> Im getting (tilda:31779): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[01:05] <bruenig> zim, it does have it built in, with the c switch
[01:05] <zim> almost have it as the default
[01:05] <bengold> hmm, why can't it be easy :P
[01:05] <_platinum_> while trying to get Tilda to work
[01:05] <andi5> NaN_: if you do not mind, please use http://pastebin.ca and give us a link to the output of `env' :)
[01:06] <NaN_> alright, one sec.
[01:06] <hossasaur> bengold: trust me, it's easier than it's ever been
[01:06] <maccam94> weggpod, you can try running top and checking for programs actually tying up system resources, but the only thing I can think of is a service running or an error message being logged. you can check dmesg for a repeated error message...
[01:06] <zim> but the -c switch still lists all dirs
[01:06] <bengold> I"m kinda retarded when it comes to anything other than mac
[01:06] <bruenig> zim, du -hcs /var 2> /dev/null
[01:06] <hossasaur> bengold: that's not saying much
[01:06] <ant__> :X
[01:06] <bengold> yeah I know
[01:06] <bengold> :
[01:07] <bengold> :)
[01:07] <acu> I would like to start phppgadmin (web interface for postgreSQL) how should I start it (what should I type on the URL) ?
[01:07] <zim> thanks i got that
[01:07] <rbil> zim: I see u can also do this ... du -c <dirname> | grep total
[01:07] <weggpod> maccam94, nothing in the log
[01:07] <hossasaur> bengold: mac is a joke.  be happy you're getting rid of that.
[01:07] <NaN_> andi5: http://dpaste.com/hold/7314/
[01:07] <ant__> zim : if you dont like the command line just use baobab
[01:07] <bruenig> zim, or even better hu -hs /var
[01:08] <dauoalagio1> hossasaur loves open sources, doesn't he?
[01:08] <hossasaur> dauoalagiol: no, i just don't like macs
[01:08] <dauoalagio1> hossasaur: why?
[01:08] <maccam94> weggpod, those are the only things I can think of at the moment, sorry. no services like hdparm or something running? nothing like beagle(d), cron, etc?
[01:08] <zim> ant i love command line
[01:08] <bengold> hossasaur: no way am I getting rid of it, as much as I like ubuntu I can't give up mac, but I hate windows and ubuntu is the best linux distro, also the best thing to run on that machine
[01:09] <weggpod> maccam94, no
[01:09] <kev_> can anyone tell me where to find the Gaim plugin folder ?
[01:09] <bengold> last time I checked I cand run final cut on linux
[01:09] <hossasaur> dauoalagiol: lack of software support, lack of ingenuity, lack of balls, i don't know.....i just don't like them/it
[01:09] <hossasaur> bengold: windows is much better than osx
[01:09] <NaN_> andi5, anything? maybe i just have to reboot?
[01:09] <maccam94> grrrr.... is there any way to get apt to use axel or some similar download accelerator?
[01:09] <NaN_> hossasaur, matter of opinion.
[01:09] <dauoalagio1> hossasaur: the thing i don't like is that when it crashes, it's done.
[01:09] <hossasaur> bengold: if you don't like windows, you won't like ubuntu
[01:09] <maccam94> hossasaur, psht
[01:09] <zim> just was commenting that it would be kewl if the default was simple
[01:09] <NaN_> hossasaur, also not true.
[01:10] <NaN_> i dislike windows and love ubuntu
[01:10] <jexdawg> when you guys reformat ubuntu/your comp, what do you do with your media collection? i want to reformat but i have over 3000 songs which i'd like to put back on the original computer. so what do you guys do?
[01:10] <andi5> NaN_: no, you probably do not need to reboot
[01:10] <dauoalagio1> yeah same here
[01:10] <maccam94> i hate windows, like ubuntu, don't mind mac
[01:10] <ant__> hossasaur : your digging yourself deeper, you should put on your boots
[01:10] <peter77> When I insert a pair of headphones the main speakers don't cut off, although they do when running windows
[01:10] <hossasaur> hahaha
[01:10] <NaN_> jexdawg why would you reformat? >_>
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: back them up to an external hard drive
[01:10] <NaN_> jexdawg i used to reformat when i was on windows, haven't had need to since i've been on linux
[01:10] <greig__> hey folks, what the command again to list the hdd's
[01:10] <zim> it would be like ls listing every file in every dir unless you greped it
[01:10] <maccam94> fdisk -l
[01:10] <NaN_> df -h ?
[01:10] <_platinum_> When i try to configure Tilda i get gtk-CRITICAL
[01:10] <hossasaur> well, the guy said he was borderline computer illiterate
[01:10] <bengold> I know but it's strange, I have used ubuntu on other machines and I loved it it, I'm not a complete noob with using ubuntu
[01:10] <Arko> hi
[01:11] <greig__> maccam94  : thanks:)
[01:11] <maccam94> greig__, np
[01:11] <slvmchn> i installed xubuntu on a machine recently, and there was an option to add a command line terminal to the top panel (like had a terminal bar within the panel) so i could type commands in right there... any idea how to set this up on xubuntu?
[01:11] <slvmchn> on ubuntu*
[01:11] <andi5> NaN_: your environment looks great...hm... so `locale -a | grep en_US.utf8' returns something, right? .... weird
[01:11] <slvmchn> regular ubuntu
[01:11] <ardchoille> jexdawg: I bought an inexpensive, smaller, hard drive that I use as a slave. I use that to hold my media and stuff.
[01:11] <hossasaur> on an ease of use scale, linux is on the opposite spectrum as mac/osx, putting windows somewhere in between
[01:11] <Arko> I am trying to install some stuff and it keeps saying that it depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1). How to solve that?
[01:11] <zim> anyway du does not do it and as i am not about to rewrite it i wont moan
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: never thought o that, thats another good idea..
[01:12] <greig__> maccam94  : for some reason that command does nothing m8
[01:12] <NaN_> yes, andi5, it does.
[01:12] <NaN_> do i just need to reboot?
[01:12] <bengold> and I'm not gonna fight about which is better, mac or pc, I like mac and some live pc (market share :(
[01:12] <andi5> NaN_: tried a new terminal?
[01:12] <NaN_> nope.
[01:12] <greig__> maccam94  : must i be root?
[01:12] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Good for backups, media, ISO's, just about anything smaller than 40Gb.
[01:12] <jexdawg> ardchoille, lets pretend, hypothetically, that i was computer-retarded. is that difficult to do? also, how much does a small harddrive cost? external or internal?
[01:12] <hossasaur> hey, i triple boot vista/ubuntu/osx10
[01:12] <hossasaur> i'm familiar with it
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: yeah, i ended up buying an enclosure fo ra spare 80gig drive i have, cuz i like being able to switch the drive between my PC and my laptop.
[01:12] <hossasaur> i just don't really like it
[01:12] <NaN_> andi5 trying to do hp-setup gives me `error: Unable to set locale."
[01:13] <greig__> maccam94  : got it thanks:)
[01:13] <maccam94> greig__, probably. df -h can be done as a user, but it only lists mounted drives
[01:13] <maccam94> ah k
[01:13] <bahatpc> I'm trying to install ubuntu from an USB stick, but the installer fails to find the ISO image I copied onto it - any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
[01:13] <andi5> NaN_: i guess you can always start it with "LANG=C hp-setup"
[01:13] <greig__> is the default hdd install partion of ubuntu 4g?
[01:13] <hossasaur> bahatpc: is it stored on the usb stick as xxxx.iso?
[01:14] <ardchoille> jexdawg: This internal drive cost me about $50.00 US. and all I did was set the jumper to slave, put it in the box and added one line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb1       /mnt/hdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       2
[01:14] <ardchoille> jexdawg: It's rather simple, but I can guide you through it if you need help.
[01:14] <hossasaur> bahatpc: or did you mount it to the stick? i guess there's a bunch of ways to get an iso onto that stick, but storing it as xxxxx.iso isn't the right one
[01:14] <maccam94> bahatpc, you're using grub to boot a .iso? i thought it couldn't do that... (maybe they have added that as a feature). usually what you do with an iso is extract it onto the media...
[01:14] <bahatpc> hosssaur: yes, I copied ubuntu-alternate-i386 onto it
[01:15] <bahatpc> maccam94: no, I followed the directions in the manual
[01:15] <hossasaur> bahatpc: you have to use a program to mount the iso onto the stick, like.....one second
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: here's a reasonably priced option as well(if getting inside the PC isn't your thing)...   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2235836&Sku=S130-4020
[01:15] <bengold> hossasaur: do thing that if I install the beta it will work better? (really if vista gets F**ked I have no problem with starting over fresh
[01:15] <hossasaur> maccam94: he's trying to boot from the stick
[01:15] <maccam94> bahatpc, well, check your drive numbering
[01:15] <jexdawg> ardchoille, i have a dvd burner that i bought for 35$ for that exact purpose, so i can always use that. but it takes a while to burn them all. i was really just looking for ideas i guess.
[01:15] <hossasaur> bengold: that certainly doesn't matter
[01:15] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Actually, your external drive switching idea is even better.
[01:16] <hossasaur> bengold: just resize your partition, restart into vista
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: it works for me to go between my pc and laptop..
[01:16] <greig__> Can i ask...is the default hdd install partion of ubuntu 4gig?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: do you know how many disks, 3k mp3's will take?
[01:16] <bahatpc> maccam94: could you elaborate on that? afaik it checked my 5 drives and 1 USB stick (sda-sdf) for images
[01:16] <ant__> greig__ : i wouldn't put it on anything smaller than 4g, i really dont know how big it is
[01:16] <ardchoille> jexdawg: The advantage to an external or internal drive is more space and you don't use up a lot of dvd's
[01:16] <bahatpc> when I execute a shell, I can mount the usb stick and the iso is write there
[01:16] <bahatpc> right*
[01:17] <greig__> ant_ : well im just new to linux and it apears i have made a 4g ubuntu install, is there a way to increase this partion without reinstalling?
[01:17] <hossasaur> bahatpc: use this http://www.download.com/ISO-Commander/3000-2646_4-10399934.html?tag=lst-0-1
[01:17] <ardchoille> jexdawg: IndyGunFreak's idea is better and I'll be looking for an external drive myself tomorrow.
[01:17] <arch_> I'm not sure where else to ask this, but I am looking for the desktop widgets shown in the second screenshot on the following link: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Glossy+Orange?content=48185  anybody have any idea what they are called (weather + extensive system information)?
[01:17] <slvmchn> any idea how to get a terminal embedded in the top panel?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: i've got roughly 600 mp3s, about 2.5gig, so assuming 3k, and 5gigs per disk, he'll probably need about 3 disks.
[01:18] <Jon335> how do I reconfigure the X server?
[01:18] <jexdawg> indygunfreak - i do, in fact. approximately five on dvds... not data cds. i've done it before.  ardchoille: i agree, its definitely a better option. unfortunately, i am poor, so i am kinda going with what i've got unless something else jumps at me.
[01:18] <bahatpc> hossasaur, maccam94: I followed the exact steps as outlined in https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[01:18] <slvmchn> Jon335: i believe it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:18] <ardchoille> jexdawg: Yeah
[01:18] <slvmchn> edit that file
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> jexdawg: well,  then i guess thats your best option.
[01:18] <bruenig> arch_, the stuff on the bottom there is conky, not sure about the widgets at the top, could be gdesklets, or maybe adesklets
[01:18] <ant__> greig__ : i personally dont like to resize partitions and dont know if you could or not.
[01:18] <arch_> thanks, I'll check them out
[01:18] <Jon335> slvmchn: do you know the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[01:18] <bahatpc> the installer is supposed to find (and I assume mount and use) an added .iso image by itself
[01:18] <slvmchn> hmm i don't
[01:19] <greig__> To anyone ....im new to linux and it apears i have made a 4g ubuntu install, is there a way to increase this partion without reinstalling?
[01:19] <bruenig> !info conky
[01:19] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[01:19] <ardchoille> jexdawg: I have found that burning mp3's to a data dvd packs more of them on the disk than as an audio dvd.
[01:19] <peter77> is there a way to get ubuntu to turn the speakers off when I plug a pair of headphones in?
[01:19] <greig__> ant_ : ty anyway:)
[01:19] <Jon335> What is the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfig X?
[01:19] <hossasaur> bahatpc: i'm sorry, that's not the way i installed from a usb stick, so i'm not sure how to help you
[01:19] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: May I pm you?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: if you have a spare hard drive of a reasonable size, that you aren't looking to upgrade,  these are awesome...   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=31389&Sku=ULT31310
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: sure.
[01:20] <bahatpc> hossasaur: thanks anyway
[01:20] <bruenig> Jon335, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <_platinum_> This Tilda really is a piece of shit compared to Yakuake
[01:20] <jexdawg> indy, ard: thanks for the responses. i'll probably stop buying so much useless crap and then get an external harddrive.. it will make it nice to transfer between this comp and the new one i'm getting for college in about 6 months. plus i mess up my computer so much that it'll be nice to just be able to reformat whenever i want. also, ardchoille: yeah, thats what i do. data dvds, not audio dvds. i don't even know how to do audio dvds.
[01:20] <garfeildma> hello, everyone
[01:20] <Jon335> bruenig: thanks!
[01:20] <Pelo> evening folks,  I need someone who didn'T mess with any "FONTS" settings in ubuntu to give me the defaults back so I can start my messing from scratch
[01:20] <bruenig> _platinum_, tilda is a piece of shit in all contexts
[01:20] <garfeildma> can someone tell me something about google code summer
[01:20] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[01:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:20] <greig__> can anyone not busy help/advise me on creating partions
[01:21] <ant__> !partitions | greig__
[01:21] <ubotu> greig__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:21] <Pelo> greig__,  use gparted, it is pretty self explanatory
[01:21] <greig__> thank you both
[01:21] <jexdawg> i thought yakuake was kde?
[01:21] <ant__> :P
[01:21] <lamumbo> ne1 to know how to get a wifi card working on a laptop newly loaded with ubuntu?
[01:22] <bruenig> !1337
[01:22] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[01:22] <Pelo> lamumbo,  look up the card model and number in the forum,  you'll probably find a howto in there
[01:22] <bogie> could anyone help me with getting win back into grub i already tried but messed the mapping stuff up -.-
[01:22] <lamumbo> d-link dwl-g650
[01:22] <jexdawg> !ubotu
[01:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:22] <Pelo> bogie,  try in #grub
[01:23] <bogie> okidoki
[01:23] <ant__> !grub | bogie
[01:23] <ubotu> bogie: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:23] <orange1> FYI: New dell drivers are out for wifi
[01:23] <ant__> lol
[01:24] <Pelo> does anyone here still have their fonts setting at default ?
[01:24] <bogie> ant__, i installed win first the ubuntu while having my win(ide) harddrive disconnected...
[01:24] <bogie> -the+then
[01:24] <tunganet> How come i cannot update automatix?
[01:24] <lamumbo> thx, Pelo... I used to use mIRC and Pirch aver a decade ago but forgot how to do stuff.  So basically I have reverted to newby status
[01:24] <bruenig> !automatix | tunganet
[01:24] <ubotu> tunganet: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:24] <Pelo> bogie, pm ?
[01:24] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, what do you mean...
[01:24] <lamumbo> how do I get to the forum?
[01:24] <tunganet> omg..
[01:24] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet?
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> mines up to date.
[01:25] <tunganet> how do i get rid of automatix?
[01:25] <bruenig> lamumbo, ubuntuforums.org
[01:25] <greig__> when installing gparted, does it show as gnome partion editor in system>administration??
[01:25] <tunganet> it sounds deadly
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> woah woah...
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[01:25] <bruenig> tunganet, I assume sudo apt-get remove automatix
[01:25] <tunganet> will it solve my problem =[
[01:25] <rbil> tunganet: it's not. just some people's opinions
[01:25] <bruenig> tunganet, solve your problem no, prevent you from having future problems yes
[01:25] <jexdawg> alright, more questions. i use mplayer (<3) but it doesn't work until i remove all xine and libxine packages. its annoying because everytime update manager runs, it tells me to install that. plus, removing xine removes the metapackage gnome-desktop which is vital for when i upgrade to feisty (and i'll forget that by the time feisty rolls around). why is this? why does xine suck so much, for me?
[01:25] <b00gz> f
[01:25] <tunganet> okay
[01:25] <tunganet> thanks
[01:26] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, i dont see how bruenig thinks it'll break your system
[01:26] <mozul> anyone have a link to a howto for setting up ubuntu raid5 configuration via software raid?
[01:26] <bruenig> rbil, like my opinion the earth is round
[01:26] <r00tintheb0x> ive been running automatix for over 2 years
[01:26] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: but the message is from ubuntu itself isnt it
[01:26] <ant__> !worksforme | r00tintheb0x
[01:26] <tunganet> !automatix
[01:26] <ubotu> r00tintheb0x: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu.
[01:28] <jexdawg> most people seem to be pretty anti-automatix. what about easyubuntu? any flaming on that?
[01:28] <bruenig> !worksforme | rbil
[01:28] <ubotu> rbil: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:28] <hagabaka> hi, i used /etc/apt/preferences to select Wesnoth packages from a debian repository while keeping everything else from Ubuntu, but is there a better way to do that? http://pastebin.ca/407425
[01:28] <r00tintheb0x> i have automatix, and im still getting updates from ubuntu
[01:28] <shatrat> jexdawg, same thing more or less
[01:28] <bruenig> rbil, and swimming in sewage won't necessarily hurt you
[01:28] <jammy> can any one tell me were do i enable vsync for the graphics  i get chopy screensavers its anoying?
[01:28] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, no he is referring to his initial question about why automatix isn't updating
[01:28] <r00tintheb0x> jammy, check out DRI on the ubuntu forums.
[01:28] <ant__> r00tintheb0x : would you also suggest using sudo for graphical applications?
[01:28] <jammy> thx sir
[01:29] <shatrat> jammy, depends on your graphics adapter.  you can do it in nvidia-settings with nvidia
[01:29] <rbil> bruenig: I'm well aware of the sentiments of some around here on this question and don't need it thrown back at me. Each to his own. I've never seen a problem is all I can say.
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> oh, probably because he doesn't have the automatix repo on his sources.list
[01:29] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: i dont know dude.. i've heard a lot of bad things about automatix
[01:29] <jammy> ATI x1900
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> ant__, only if the program requires it.
[01:29] <ant__> lol
[01:29] <shatrat> r00tintheb0x, it was a trick question.
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, i know, but... ive heard a lot of bad things about ubuntu :P
[01:29] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: :O
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> i met a girl that works for ubuntu... and she even uses automatix.
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:29] <jammy> i have x1900
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> x1900 what jammy?
[01:30] <ant__> works for ubuntu?
[01:30] <shatrat> you mean works for canonical?
[01:30] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, you don't honestly think I believe you met a girl who works for ubuntu
[01:30] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: its fine.. i typed sudo apt-get remove automatix and it says automatix is not installed
[01:30] <r00tintheb0x> uuh, i dont care :)
[01:30] <bruenig> !worksforme | rbil
[01:30] <r00tintheb0x> :D take how you want to.
[01:30] <ubotu> rbil: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:30] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: yet it is still under application
[01:30] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, "it is still under application"?
[01:30] <ant__> hes also saying he'd use sudo for graphical apps "when they require it"
[01:30] <rbil> bruenig: please stop. I've already told you I was aware of the sentiments of some on this question.
[01:30] <jammy> x1900 xt 512 version an i was wandering how to do vsync like you do in windows
[01:31] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: applications->system tools-> automatix
[01:31] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: even after i typed sudo apt-get remove automatix
[01:31] <bruenig> rbil, but you are setting up a false situation. You can analyze how it works and determine the problems. It is not some mysterious thing that you speculate on
[01:31] <GekiBlue> So... I just tried to install Ubuntu 6.10... and I got one of those nasty 'out of scan range' boxes right after the loading screen
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet,
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> "aptitude purge automatix2"
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> then restart GDM
[01:31] <shatrat> jammy, ati is bad at what they do.  You can try the ati config utility, and there is probably a line you can add to your xorg.conf device section to enable it, try searching.  When I used ati though I couldnt even get it to do anti aliasing right
[01:31] <rbil> bruenig: but unlike you, I don't see a problem :-)
[01:31] <r00tintheb0x> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:32] <bruenig> rbil, ok well look at the script then
[01:32] <dkbg> how do I keep apache from starting up automatically on login?
[01:32] <shatrat> GekiBlue, try using the safe graphics settings boot option
[01:32] <rbil> bruenig: which one? it uses envy to get the video drivers. that script?
[01:32] <bogie> nope didnt work Pelo
[01:32] <bruenig> rbil, it is a little harder now that they stopped using zenity and wen't to a legitimate gui, but it is still understandable
[01:32] <jrib> dkbg: system > administration > services
[01:33] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: ok um, after i restart gdm
[01:33] <jammy> ATI is not bad there are solutions but i cant seem to find one and just wandering if some one found the solution on enabling the Vsync
[01:33] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: i have another question to ask :)
[01:33] <PriceChild> !raid
[01:33] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:33] <Pelo> bogie,  maybe the #grub ppl can do better,  or else just reinstall ubuntu , it will take care or it
[01:33] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing tunganet
[01:33] <Yggdrasil> darn, i updatet to fiesty and ... now when i close my laptop it crashes..
[01:33] <jrib> Yggdrasil: #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[01:33] <rbil> bruenig: maybe you could convince me if you could actually show me what problems it creates?
[01:33] <bogie> however thanks for your help this far :)
[01:33] <dkbg> jrib: apache doesn't appear to be there
[01:34] <rpc> is there such thing as peerguardian for ubuntu? or similar
[01:34] <shatrat> jammy, Ive used linux with ati, nvidia, and intel, and of them all ati is by far the worst.  I'm sure there is an xorg.conf device option that will turn on vsync, but whether or not it actually works is another thing
[01:34] <jexdawg> yggdrasil, i realize i'm being a nazi, but... feisty. not fiesty.  /anal
[01:34] <clem_> rpc: is it a firewall ?
[01:34] <rpc> clem_ it's a long list of bad ips
[01:34] <ant__> shatrat : i totally agree
[01:34] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, you can either use BUM
[01:34] <clem_> rpc: oh ok
[01:34] <r00tintheb0x> B.U.M.
[01:34] <Yggdrasil> jexdawg huh
[01:34] <r00tintheb0x> or you can take it out of /etc/rc*.d
[01:34] <Yggdrasil> thats what i said fiesty
[01:34] <bruenig> rbil, it assumes yes on everything and doesn't allow you to view conflicts. Such things can break systems. It hides all errors, not allowing you to see what is going on. So let's say I try to install something that is conflicting with something else, instead of informing me of this conflict and letting me decide whether to do it, it assumes yes. So I am sure you are familiar of times when aptitude will give you four or five options on how to go about doing som
[01:34] <bruenig> ething. Well automatix picks the first one and you are stuck with it, system breakage or not.
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> rc3 or 5, i dont know what one.
[01:35] <jexdawg> the spelling... e before the i, yggdrasil
[01:35] <Yggdrasil> yar
[01:35] <Yggdrasil> fiesty
[01:35] <kalila> how to enable ubuntu bleeding edge packages?
[01:35] <kalila> testing repo or something
[01:35] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: sounds good, I'll try the latter
[01:35] <rpc> clem_ so kind of firewall or more like filtering wall :)
[01:35] <clem_> :)
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> bruenig, just dont use anything but ubuntu mirrors till you get the hang of fixing a broken system.
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> sure thing dkbg  :)
[01:35] <ardchoille> bruenig: Indeed
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> by the way dkbg its called "boot up manager"
[01:35] <jrib> Yggdrasil: the 'i' comes after the 'e' in "feisty"
[01:35] <jammy> im fully aware that ati had bad drivers at this moment and time,  im sure thay will be working on it some time
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> its available through APT
[01:35] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: yeah, I've heard of it
[01:35] <r00tintheb0x> ok :)
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i'd prefer removing the script out of /etc/rc*.d
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> that'd be the "clean" way of doing it.
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:36] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: hmm, /etc/rc*.d doesn't seem to exist
[01:36] <jammy> but i dont want to buy an nvidia to just work ubuntu it defeats the object
[01:36] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: agreed :)
[01:36] <rbil> bruenig: no, never came across that with any package i've tried to install.
[01:36] <Alonea> Ok, gonna try one more time to fix this before reformatting system. Adept uninstalled my fglrx and now I can't get it to reinstally my video card. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/  Even Envy gets same error. and I DO have all those packages.
[01:36] <bruenig> r00tintheb0x, till I get the hang of fixing a broken system? or just don't break the system. Or if I do, know what I am doing when I do it so I can undo it.
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> :D
[01:36] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: that's why I went with it
[01:36] <bruenig> rbil, exactly worksforme
[01:36] <jammy> it like trying to run away from a problem and not fixing it
[01:36] <jrib> dkbg: it's "Web server"
[01:36] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: you th ere mate?
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, it'll either be /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d /etc/rc4.d
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> somewhere in there
[01:36] <r00tintheb0x> yes tunganet whats up
[01:37] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: baye, okay
[01:37] <dkbg> -b
[01:37] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: a while ago, i had this error upon startup, something like "error: icon cannot be loaded"
[01:37] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, "find /etc -name "*apache*" |more
[01:37] <rbil> bruenig: yep, and every other system I'm familiar with :-)
[01:37] <r00tintheb0x> okay tunganet no problem.
[01:37] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: now that when i move my shortcuts with icons around my panel, the icons will be gone and it will be an icon with a cross
[01:37] <bruenig> rbil, but what I am telling you is that it is fundamentally flawed
[01:37] <jammy> so does anyone have any info about  vsync on a x1900 xt 512?
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, around your panel you mean.. the Gnome desktop?
[01:38] <slvmchn> i installed xubuntu on a machine recently, and there was an option to add a command line terminal to the top panel (like had a terminal bar within the panel) so i could type commands in right there... any idea how to set this up on ubuntu?
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> or the panel up top.
[01:38] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: panel up top
[01:38] <bruenig> rbil, that you didn't suffer that flaw is good for you, but it doesn't mean you should advocate its use especially when there is an alternative
[01:38] <shatrat> jammy, the option youre looking for is called "sync to vblank" I believe, still looking for the exact entry
[01:38] <rbil> bruenig: I believe you! "doesn'tworkforyou". End of discussion.
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> by the "System" meny tunganet ?
[01:38] <bruenig> rbil, ok I accept your concession
[01:38] <ardchoille> lol
[01:38] <jexdawg> haha
[01:38] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: yes sir
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> does the firefox icon loose its icon when you love it tunganet ?
[01:38] <r00tintheb0x> or only certain ones.
[01:38] <BeepAU> i just tried installing something and it told me 'No packages found matching ...', but the package is there, what have I done wrong?
[01:38] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: when i love it lol
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> move*
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> hehe
[01:39] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: only certain ones
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> okay, that... is strange.
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> are you draggin them from menus to put up there and such?
[01:39] <clem_> BeepAU: what package?
[01:39] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: no i am moving it from panel spot a to spot b
[01:39] <BeepAU> it's to instal oss (open sound system)
[01:39] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: then when i move it from spot b to spot a, it loses its icon
[01:39] <r00tintheb0x> what if you move it from spot b to the desktop
[01:40] <os1ris> can anyone help me with a ubuntu server issue.. i am trying to install a wireless card. but dont see it when i do a lspci anyone help?
[01:40] <dkbg> jrib: I figured it might be web server, but its not there
[01:40] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: by spot a/b , i am referring to the panel
[01:40] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: hehe, woops I was assuming rc*.d was a file
[01:40] <AngryElf> I followed http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10 to set up a DNS server on a server with a working DHCP config -- for some reason I can't ping hostnames though...any thoughts as to why?
[01:40] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, rc2.d is a directory
[01:40] <jrib> dkbg: oh ok, it shows up here on feisty so i assumed it would work.  'man update-rc.d' will tell you how do it manually, or use sysv-rc-conf
[01:40] <r00tintheb0x> tung i understand.
[01:41] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: I have several apache files in rc[0-9] .d
[01:41] <BeepAU> clem_ - do you know what i'm doing wrong?
[01:41] <r00tintheb0x> but, if you move it from spot A on the panel to the desktop, does it loose its pic?
[01:41] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, let me log into my server... i'll check it out
[01:41] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: nope
[01:41] <r00tintheb0x> hold on
[01:41] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: rc[0-6] .d sorry
[01:41] <os1ris> anyone good with device handling in ubuntu server?
[01:41] <clem_> BeepAU: you've got the wrong name.. there's no "oss" package
[01:41] <clem_> BeepAU: there's "alsa-oss"
[01:42] <clem_> os1ris: is it a USB or PCI or PCMCIA wireless adapter?
[01:42] <bengold> oh yay I found an external hard drive, so I don't have to bother messing anything up, thanks for you help!
[01:42] <os1ris> im using a pci device
[01:42] <BeepAU> clem_ - i'm following this - http://www.4front-tech.com/test/oss-install.pdf
[01:42] <clem_> os1ris: lsusb doesn't see it ?
[01:42] <os1ris> nah is not usb pci
[01:42] <jammy> sync to vblank? that has something to do with Vsync
[01:42] <os1ris> its pci i mean
[01:42] <BeepAU> clem_ - alsa doesn't support my sound card, so i'm trying oss
[01:43] <clem_> os1ris: sorry, I meant lspci...
[01:43] <Sivik> from command line, how do i add a new network card thats onboard but i can't seem to find it anywhere in lspci nor dmesg when my box starts
[01:43] <r00tintheb0x> i believe dkbg ...
[01:43] <os1ris> clem i pmed u ....
[01:43] <clem_> BeepAU: I don't know anything about oss, but you can search for packages names by doing "sudo aptitude search oss"
[01:43] <os1ris> scrolling kinda fast in here.
[01:44] <tunganet> r00tintheb0x: :(
[01:44] <os1ris> i did a lspci ...  and i dont think i show it ....
[01:44] <ant__> BeepAU : goto the openoss webpage and they have a list of supported cards i think.
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> tunganet, private message me.
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x>  /msg r00tintheb0x
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> like that.
[01:44] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: this is turning out to be more complex than I anticipated :P
[01:44] <os1ris> i dont know if the pci or card is bad. does that command show anything connected even if its not supported/used?
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, im still checking
[01:44] <ctkroeker> What cms does http://planet.ubuntu.com/ use?
[01:44] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, its a good learning curve ;)
[01:44] <BeepAU> clem_ -- it's not from the repositories, i already have the file downloaded
[01:44] <clem_> os1ris: it should say "Network Controller"
[01:44] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: its not even necessary really, I could just uninstall apache, but I guess I could use the learning :)
[01:45] <clem_> BeepAU: you have a deb file ?
[01:45] <os1ris> nah i see the other pci network controler i have in there
[01:45] <os1ris> this is a wireless card belkin
[01:45] <Sivik> clem: so it should say something about network controller in dmesg or lspci
[01:45] <skel> for beta testing can I just change edgy to fiesty in the sources.list and do the typical dist-upgrade after running the update? or is there a different tag like fiesty-beta ?
[01:45] <PriceChild> ctkroeker, I'm reasonably sure its homebrew
[01:45] <BeepAU> clem_ - yes
[01:45] <os1ris> trying to get ndis wrapper but i wont be able to see it if i dont have the corre pci id
[01:45] <PriceChild> !upgrade | skel
[01:45] <ubotu> skel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:45] <os1ris> if im not mistaken
[01:45] <clem_> Sivik: yep
[01:45] <PriceChild> skel, remember feisty is beta
[01:45] <clem_> BeepAU: sudo dpkg -i thedebfile
[01:46] <jexdawg> does anyone know if Envy is fairly stable and adept at installing ATI drivers? last time i used it (month and a half ago maybe?) it broke my x-server, but i need to install ATI drivers to get beryl working properly. (also, beryl is dead, so i'm asking here).
[01:46] <skel> PriceChild: noted :) I have everything backed up. ty for the link =]
[01:46] <therage> hey guys i'm a newb with problems installing.
[01:46] <Sivik> jexdawg: go to ubuntu+1 for envy questions
[01:46] <bruenig> therage, those would be...
[01:46] <BeepAU> clem_ - thankyou, i thought it was an L
[01:46] <jexdawg> sivik, ty
[01:46] <ctkroeker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu doesn't give any additional info
[01:46] <os1ris> beryl is the shit
[01:46] <os1ris> heh
[01:46] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[01:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:46] <jexdawg> os1ris, when it works it is
[01:46] <os1ris> whoops..
[01:46] <ant__> envy works for edgy doesnt it?
[01:46] <clem_> jexdawg: 0.8.1 is stable enough... 0.9.1 has a GUI :)
[01:46] <os1ris> na i run it with nvidia
[01:47] <jexdawg> GUI? WHAT?
[01:47] <os1ris> with algix ot whatever
[01:47] <os1ris> i have had no problems
[01:47] <clem_> jexdawg: Graphical User Interface
[01:47] <os1ris> but now i cant get my ubuntu server to work
[01:47] <clem_> oh ok :)
[01:47] <os1ris> with my wireless
[01:47] <skel> they have a gui for linux now?!!?!
[01:47] <skel> :-P
[01:47] <jexdawg> clem_, i know. i was expressing exuberance, not ignorance. haha.
[01:47] <therage> i get to the initial boot cd menu fine.  i select start ubuntu/install.  from that point the load screen graphics go black and white and once it gets into the GUI with my mouse on the screen it stops
[01:47] <os1ris> lol
[01:47] <clem_> no pb
[01:47] <jexdawg> wait wait, linux has gui? you mean i don't have to do everything by command line? BLASPHEMY
[01:48] <os1ris> os lspci will show all used pci buses right even if the card is not used right?
[01:48] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i'd just move it
[01:48] <clem_> you can get envy from alberto milone's website, he has a repo as well.
[01:48] <r00tintheb0x> to somewhere like /home/yourusername/startupscriptbackiup
[01:48] <r00tintheb0x> move them all out of rc*.d
[01:48] <octoberdan> Installed kernel 2.6.17 from Ubunutu. "kernel panic-not syncing VFS:unable to mount root fs on ..." from my menu.lst: http://pastebin.ca/407445 . 3.6.8 boots fine. I'm running regular ol' ata hard drives, nothing unusual/special about my hardware setup
[01:48] <greig_> Hi, ive used Gparted to format  a partion to ext3, how do i now make this/mount as a visable drive?? thanks in advance
[01:48] <therage> plays the pretty little sound, then it looks like it starts to draw a menu box, but everything stops tere
[01:48] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: okay, I'll do a bit more sleuthing
[01:48] <clem_> os1ris: let's put it that way, if it's not in dmesg and lspci it doesn't look good :)
[01:49] <octoberdan> roots are the same, although I've never seen "root=UUID=..." before
[01:49] <msbhvn> anyone know how to make yaboot go into single user mode?
[01:49] <msbhvn> is yaboot the default for ppc ubuntu?
[01:49] <os1ris> whats dmesg?
[01:49] <therage> anyone anyone?
[01:49] <r00tintheb0x> dmesg is your system boot log os1ris
[01:49] <msbhvn> os1ris: kernel ring buffer
[01:49] <os1ris> ahh ok.. well i really hope i dont need to get another card
[01:49] <Angelus> hi guys! was wondering if there is a program out there to convert dvd movies to WMV files to transfer onto an IPAQ???
[01:49] <os1ris> booooo
[01:49] <msbhvn> os1ris: tells you some systems messages and hardware stuff
[01:49] <octoberdan> Tried to generate a completely new menu.lst with update-grub (mv menu.lst menu.list.bk && update-grub), but no luck there either
[01:49] <os1ris> well i gota go ill be on later otnight to work on this
[01:49] <bruenig> !alternate | therage you might try this
[01:49] <ubotu> therage you might try this: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:49] <greig_> !partion
[01:49] <os1ris> later everyone
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <os1ris> !partition
[01:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:50] <os1ris> i i think it what u ment
[01:50] <os1ris> hehe
[01:50] <xptical> I have a FTP question...how do I create an ftp user that can upload and download to /var/www/site.  right now, I have proftpd and when I ftp with username/password, I end up in the user's home directory
[01:50] <therage> ubotu:  i am using the desktop live cd
[01:50] <greig_> oslris : thanks:)
[01:50] <bruenig> therage, he is saying that you could get the alternate cd and see if that works for you
[01:50] <therage> yeah, ok.
[01:51] <ardchoille> !ubotu | therage
[01:51] <ubotu> therage: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:51] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: okay I looked here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto and I think I'll just rename the scripts
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i just tried it on my system
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> remove them all dkbg ...
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> you can just move them to your home folder in case you want for it to autostart @ boot again
[01:51] <r00tintheb0x> or alternativly...
[01:51] <Angelus> can anyone help with my question?
[01:51] <Bright-Light> Hi
[01:52] <skel> weeeee and I've started the upgrade process
[01:52] <r00tintheb0x> you can "ln -s /etc/init.d/apache2 /etc/rc3.d/
[01:52] <bruenig> !anyone | Angelus
[01:52] <ubotu> Angelus: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:52] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: if I remove them, if I want them back I'd have to figure out their names again
[01:53] <Angelus> I've already asked the question no one answered, I'll ask again...Does anyone have any idea about a program that converts DVD movies to WMV for an IPAQ?
[01:53] <r00tintheb0x> no, they're all the same dkbg
[01:53] <ardchoille> dkbg: You could always create a directory somewhere else to put unused items in, that way it'd be easy to put them back if you need them later.
[01:54] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, i removed it with webmin just to test... and it removed all four of them.
[01:55] <dkbg> webmin?
[01:55] <ardchoille> !webmin
[01:55] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:55] <dylock> on edgy anyone have a problem with multiple nautilus' showin up upon execution?
[01:56] <dkbg> dylock: do you have a session saved with multiple nautilus windows?
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[01:56] <psyber> hey guys
[01:56] <greig_> can anyone help me please, i have a unused partition on my disc and want to use it as an additional drive, formated it to ext3 at /dev/hda3. But how do i actually mount? this and make it usable
[01:56] <bruenig> !howdy | psyber
[01:56] <ubotu> psyber: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:56] <dylock> no i dont dkbg
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> Man, there's a LOT of stuff not supported by ubuntu... doesn't mean it doesn't work.
[01:56] <ant__> r00tbox uses all the unsupported progs
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> I didnt reccomend him do it.
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> i reccomended him remove the /etc/rc*.d scripts
[01:56] <bengold> ok
[01:56] <brianves> I've got a problem with my audio balance,  my right channel is twice as loud as my left.  Anyone know anything to remedy this?
[01:56] <r00tintheb0x> ant__, i use what i like... and hack it when i need to :)
[01:56] <bruenig> greig_, well if you are going to format it, format it as ext3 in gparted, after you do that, then you can set up a line in fstab to have it mount
[01:57] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: yeah, I'll just move em', they're just symlinks
[01:57] <crdlb> brianves, run: alsamixer in a terminal
[01:57] <blanky> questions questions questions?
[01:57] <ardchoille> greig_: Make a mount point, maybe /mnt/hda3 and then to mount: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
[01:57] <ant__> r00tintheb0x : i can tell by your nick...
[01:57] <psyber> does anyone know how to update to the fiesty beta w/out installing from a cd?
[01:57] <dylock> greig_: look up the mount man page
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, symlinks to /etc/init.d/apache2 right?
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, ?
[01:57] <brianves> crdlb  ok,  then what
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> ant__, im a UNIX admin for a software company.
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> I do this ALL day long.
[01:57] <blanky> sucks
[01:57] <crdlb> brianves, look if the levels are lopsided
[01:57] <ant__> r00tintheb0x : you are truly leeto
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> i have over 20 Solaris machines, Ubuntu is like leggos compared ot Solaris.
[01:57] <ardchoille> bruenig: Sorry, didn't see you already helping him.
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> nah, i just love UNIX
[01:57] <greig_> bruenig : ive formated as u say, where do i find this fstab, sorry im new to linux
[01:57] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: yeah
[01:57] <r00tintheb0x> :)_
[01:57] <brianves> crdlb  nope even
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> yeah dkbg
[01:58] <bruenig> ardchoille, how dare you try to swoop in on my kill
[01:58] <dylock> greig_: you also need to add it to your fstab file
[01:58] <bengold> I'm back I went to instal it on an external drive and I got "the ext3 file system creation in partiton #1 of SCSI10 (0,0,0) (sdbd) failed"
[01:58] <ardchoille> bruenig: hahaha
[01:58] <crdlb> brianves, master and pcm ?
[01:58] <bengold> can anyone help and then
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> you can just "ln -s /etc/init.d/apache2 /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2"
[01:58] <bengold> I'll go away
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, do you know what the S91 represents?
[01:58] <bruenig> greig_, ok so make the mount point, "sudo mkdir /media/hda3"
[01:58] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, SATA?
[01:59] <jeffwheeler> The Feisty beta doesn't fit on a normal-sized CD, 700mb. Is it fine to put it on a DVD, or did I screw up my download?
[01:59] <bengold> umm hmm
[01:59] <brianves> crdlb  all even,  I can set pcm all the way to the left to balance.  but I write music with my pc and any accessing of the volume reverts back to uneven balance
[01:59] <dylock> greig_: /etc/fstab
[01:59] <bengold> no I don't think it is
[01:59] <bruenig> greig_, now do gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, and add the following line at the bottom: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 defaults 0 0
[01:59] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: nope, some are prefixed with K91 too
[01:59] <bengold> (I'm such a noob :P
[01:59] <r00tintheb0x> okay
[01:59] <r00tintheb0x> those scripts start A-Z 1-*
[01:59] <r00tintheb0x> so A1 would start before A2
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> get it?
[02:00] <psyber> hey guys does anyone know how to update to fiesty w/out installing from a disc?
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> like you could have S11 T1
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> S11 would start 1st.
[02:00] <jrib> r00tintheb0x: A-Z?
[02:00] <bruenig> !upgrading | psyber
[02:00] <ubotu> psyber: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:00] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: oh okay interesting
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> yes jrib
[02:00] <Alonea> Ok, gonna try one more time to fix this before reformatting system. Adept uninstalled my fglrx and now I can't get it to reinstally my video card. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/  Even Envy gets same error. and I DO have all those packages.
[02:00] <r00tintheb0x> you could have Z99
[02:00] <j0sh0> hi, I've got an ASUS P5B-MX WIFI_AP mobo, but the wireless NIC is not automatically detected. Ubuntu loads the Atheros drivers, but it should be using realtek drivers. Can someone pleasae tell me how to make it load the correct drivers please???
[02:00] <psyber> ahh thanx brue
[02:00] <cafuego_> Specifically S[0-9] {2} get run in alphabetical order at bootup, and K[0-9] {2} at shutdown.
[02:00] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: no I don't think it is
[02:01] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: what does "rc" stand for
[02:01] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, its either SATA or SCSI
[02:01] <cafuego_> Runlevel Configuration probably
[02:01] <louieb39> release candidate??
[02:01] <bengold> SCSI
[02:01] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: and does the ".d" represent daemon or what?
[02:01] <bruenig> greig_, did you get through all of that?
[02:01] <brianves> crdlb,  you there??
[02:01] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, im not too sure
[02:02] <greig_> bruening : sorry for being slow, yes, just finished
[02:02] <dkbg> runlevel config sounds good
[02:02] <bengold> r00tinthebox: SCSI
[02:02] <r00tintheb0x> dkbg, here's some more info on it though http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/25/ubuntu-610-annoyance-failed-to-initialize-hal-error/
[02:02] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[02:02] <crdlb> brianves, I have no idea, sorry
[02:02] <jeffwheeler> So, is Feisty currently 740mb?
[02:02] <bruenig> greig_, ok no hurry, so now it should mount everytime you turn your computer on, do "sudo mount -a" it should mount it like it will at boot
[02:02] <bengold> crap I keep typing your name wrong r00tintheb0x
[02:02] <brianves> crdlb  well thanks for tryin
[02:03] <r00tintheb0x> lol bengold
[02:03] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:03] <BUMBACL0T> hey, let's say you're hosting a pirated file on canadian host and you're from U.S., is that considered legal? and what if the file link is also on your page?
[02:03] <greig_> bruening :  ok done, must i reboot to see the drive ?
[02:03] <jrib> BUMBACL0T: not here
[02:03] <bruenig> greig_, sudo mount -a should show the drive
[02:03] <dkbg> r00tintheb0x: I thinjk you sent that link to the wrong person :P
[02:04] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, why are you creating a "sdbd"
[02:04] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[02:04] <Sivik> ok, i found that my ethernet port is seen by the kernel, but how do i go about installing it, per say, from command line
[02:04] <jamiejcumb> how do i make fat files read and write to all?
[02:04] <j0sh0> hi, I've got an ASUS P5B-MX WIFI_AP mobo, but the wireless NIC is not automatically detected. Ubuntu loads the Atheros drivers, but it should be using realtek drivers. Can someone pleasae tell me how to make it load the correct drivers please???
[02:04] <jrib> !vfat > jamiejcumb    (vfat, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:04] <dkbg> !vfat
[02:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:04] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:05] <greig_> bruening :  ah yes its within the media folder. i expected it to show on destop like my other 2 partitions
[02:05] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, why are you creating a "sdbd" out of curiosity? thats an unconventional layout.
[02:05] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: to tell you the truth I've got no idea what I'm doing, I was just trying to instal it on an external drive
[02:05] <bruenig> greig_, yeah I think it should
[02:05] <bruenig> greig_, maybe it will on boot
[02:05] <harry_> is it possible to read tar.gzipped files on a windoze machine?
[02:05] <jrib> harry_: yes
[02:05] <sp0ro>  Anyone know how to change the sound card alsamixer boots with? I know the name of my sound device, it's snd-via8235, but I am unsure of how to change it in alsamixer.
[02:05] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: in the easiest possible way :P
[02:05] <SeveredCross> WinRAR will, I don't know if WinZIP will.
[02:05] <bruenig> greig_, if not you can always do "ln -s /media/hda3 ~/Desktop/hda3" to create a link to it
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, how do you figure?
[02:06] <harry_> thanks
[02:06] <greig_> bruening : there is a folder called lost-found  on the drive. whats this do i need it?
[02:06] <megafauna> Hi, can someone recommend some good software for burning DVDs?
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> how many partitions are you creating?
[02:06] <kazuka> ANYONE AG
[02:06] <SeveredCross> megafauna: K3b is good.
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> greig_, just leave it alone.
[02:06] <Ahorner> can I have some help?
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> when a FSCK finds orphaned nodes/files... it puts them there.
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> sure Ahorner whats up
[02:06] <kazuka> ANYONE ABLE TO RUN VMWARE XP VIRTUAL ON A UBUNTU HOST??????????????????????????
[02:06] <Ahorner> I need to set my resolution to 1400x900 :-/
[02:06] <bruenig> !caps | kazuka
[02:06] <ubotu> kazuka: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:06] <bengold> r00tintheb0x:none because it's going on the external
[02:06] <greig_> r00tinthebOx : ok i will
[02:06] <SeveredCross> kazuka, ditch the caps please, they're rude.
[02:06] <bruenig> funny
[02:06] <rpc> kazuka more !!! please
[02:06] <r00tintheb0x> oooh bengold ... why not make 1 partition then.
[02:06] <greig_> bruening : thank you very much!
[02:06] <rpc> more!
[02:07] <megafauna> SeveredCross - Thanks I'll check it out
[02:07] <SeveredCross> Ahorner: Sounds like you need your video driver. :)
[02:07] <rpc> oh he is gone.. good
[02:07] <AtlanticBoy> I have adsl line, a modem/router connected to the ethernet card.Is there a way of programming the router ( include pass and authname ) instead of having to configure a new dsl connection each time I reinstall the system?
[02:07] <SeveredCross> ATI or nVidia?
[02:07] <Ahorner> ok.
[02:07] <brianves> kazuka  yes
[02:07] <sp0ro>  Anyone know how to change the sound card alsamixer boots with? I know the name of my sound device, it's snd-via8235, but I am unsure of how to change it in alsamixer.
[02:07] <megafauna> SeveredCross - what is the default software in ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ahorner> its an ati radeon xpress 200
[02:07] <r00tintheb0x> or are you mirroring them bengold ?
[02:07] <SeveredCross> megafauna: For burning DVD's? I have no idea, I don't remember.
[02:07] <Ahorner> can i just get the inf from my other hd?
[02:07] <bengold> r00tinthebox: hey  Id love to but I don't know, I just was following what the ubuntu installer told me
[02:07] <megafauna> SeveredCross - k, its just that I can't find it
[02:07] <SeveredCross> Ahorner: Get nvy--it's a Python script that installs ATI/nVidia drivers and configures x-org for you.
[02:07] <Ahorner> (the one running winblows)
[02:08] <Ahorner> yes sir
[02:08] <greig_> bruening : can i ask 1 more Q? my default hdd where ubuntu is installed for some reason is set to only 4 gig, is there a way i can increase this without a reinstall ?
[02:08] <SeveredCross> You should be able to get Envy via sudo apt-get install envy
[02:08] <Ahorner> sourceforge?
[02:08] <blanky> !envy | ahorn
[02:08] <ubotu> ahorn: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[02:08] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: the installer failed me :'(
[02:08] <SeveredCross> Though you may need to enable the multiverse/universe repos.
[02:08] <Ahorner> im new at this
[02:08] <blanky> !envy | Ahorner
[02:08] <ubotu> Ahorner: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[02:08] <woz> im new at this
[02:08] <j0sh0> Hey can someone please tell me how to get Ubuntu to load realtek drivers for my wifi instead of atheros???
[02:08] <bruenig> greig_, you can make it bigger on the end, but you will have to format the partition directly after it to do that
[02:08] <Ahorner> how would i enable universe
[02:08] <Ahorner> wait i know this
[02:08] <SeveredCross> :)
[02:08] <Ahorner> ect acp
[02:09] <r00tintheb0x> bengold... lol
[02:09] <Ahorner> etc*
[02:09] <bruenig> apt*
[02:09] <blanky> Ahorner: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and just uncomment things
[02:09] <SeveredCross> Well, you can either gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources
[02:09] <r00tintheb0x> you're trying to install from the CD to an external SCSI array or something?
[02:09] <Ahorner> ok
[02:09] <SeveredCross> Err, sources.list, right.
[02:09] <Ahorner> lol
[02:09] <blanky> Ahorner: or if you want to do it the GUI way (Which to me seems more complicated), then
[02:09] <jamiejcumb> ubotu  I have all ready added to fstab with rw but not all files are being seen any ideas?
[02:09] <blanky> !repositories | Ahorner
[02:09] <ubotu> Ahorner: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:09] <AtlanticBoy> How can I have access to the router settings ?
[02:09] <greig_> bruening : so i'd loose everything of my defult install?
[02:09] <Ahorner> wow everybodys talkin to me lol
[02:09] <ardchoille> !gksudo > blanky
[02:09] <sp0ro>  Anyone know how to change the sound card alsamixer boots with? I know the name of my sound device, it's snd-via8235, but I am unsure of how to change it in alsamixer.
[02:09] <Ahorner> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <ardchoille> !gksudo > Ahorner
[02:09] <brianves> kazuka  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=installing+vmware
[02:09] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: all I want to do is instal ubuntu from a pc onto an external hd, nothing fancy :)
[02:10] <bruenig> greig_, you would lose whatever is on the partition directly after the partition you are trying to make bigger
[02:10] <efface> sp0ro, its alsaconf
[02:10] <blanky> Ahorner: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:10] <jlowell> help please I cannot install feisty fawn it just sits at first cd boot screen saying loading... and nothing more.
[02:10] <sp0ro> efface: unknown command :(
[02:10] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, im just confused as to how you're installing to an external single SCSI drive is all.
[02:10] <bruenig> jlowell, #ubuntu_1
[02:10] <greig_> bruening : well thats where ubuntu's installed onto, so really i'd need to reinstall yea?
[02:10] <bruenig> jlowell, #ubuntu+1
[02:10] <j0sh0> Hey can someone please tell me how to get Ubuntu to load realtek drivers for my wifi instead of atheros???
[02:10] <bruenig> greig_, ubuntu cannot be installed on the partition and the partition directly after it, that doesn't make sense
[02:11] <efface> sp0ro,  try sudo alsaconf
[02:11] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: I'm confused myself
[02:11] <sp0ro> efface: Same thing
[02:11] <cables> Where's Ubiquity's bugtracker? I think I found something in the Feisty installer.
[02:11] <efface> try sudo /etc/init.d/alsaconf
[02:11] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:11] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have an external USB drive?
[02:11] <Ahorner> is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[02:11] <Ahorner> (defult)
[02:11] <jrib> cables: bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <cables> jrib, "ubiquity does not use Malone as its bug tracker."
[02:12] <daobhaidh> @ahorner no i dont think so
[02:12] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: yes it's a lacie 160gb
[02:12] <cables> jrib, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubiquity/+filebug
[02:12] <daobhaidh> @ahorner at least mine was blank
[02:12] <efface> ok, problem, im using alsa in wine (yes i know oss is recommended but it doesnt work for me) and for the wave out and wave in it lists ASD Capture/Standard, instead of Audigy2 or Emu10k1 like it does in mini out/in
[02:12] <r00tintheb0x> ben thats a SATA not a SCSI... Linux just sees it as SCSI.
[02:12] <jamiejcumb> I have my fat partion mounted with fstab with rw but rhythembox does not see all my files permission problems i guess any one help.
[02:12] <levmatta> hello I need some info on the /boot dir (in my case a partition)
[02:12] <r00tintheb0x> ben are you booted from the live CD?
[02:12] <bengold> yeah
[02:12] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, why not dual boot?
[02:13] <bruenig> jamie, perhaps fmask and dmask will be a better way
[02:13] <Ahorner> im back
[02:13] <FurryNemesis> anyone else been getting crashy firefox <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:13] <jrib> cables: I said that because there are tons of bugs against it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs :/
[02:13] <Ahorner> ok so i did gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <greig_> bruening : sorry if im not making sence, heres my issue.../dev/hda3 is where ubuntu is installed, and its only 4 gig total size with less that 1g remaining, so i need to increase this, but the only way to increase this will involve losing all data on this drive, correct? meaning having to install ubuntu again?
[02:13] <Ahorner> put in pass
[02:13] <Ahorner> now what
[02:13] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: dual boot with the external?
[02:13] <Ahorner> what do i edit
[02:13] <levmatta> I whant to have multiple ubuntus + a windows in my machine
[02:13] <Ahorner> how many hd's do you have
[02:13] <cables> jrib, thanks... why was i not able to get there before by searching "ubiquity" in products search?
[02:13] <levmatta> 2 hd
[02:13] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have windows on the computer you're trying to install to?
[02:13] <Ahorner> me 2
[02:14] <Ahorner> guys how do i turn on universe. ive already done gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:14] <bruenig> greig_, ok here is the best way to do this. List each partition in order from front of the disk to back of the disk and tell me what is one each (eg. Partition One - ubuntu Partition two - ext3 storage)
[02:14] <jrib> cables:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug  works, I have no idea why ubiquity didn't turn up in product search.  Did you try searching for packages in ubuntu called ubiquity?
[02:14] <levmatta> this computer already has a windows and a ubuntu edgy
[02:14] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: yes (although I'm really a mac user) it's vista
[02:14] <cables> jrib, i just  went to bugs.launchpad.net and typed "ubiquity" in the box
[02:14] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, thats fine.
[02:14] <digi> what would be the easiest way to send mail from a shell?
[02:14] <efface> ok, problem, im using alsa in wine (yes i know oss is recommended but it doesnt work for me) and for the wave out and wave in it lists ASD Capture/Standard, instead of Audigy2 or Emu10k1 like it does in mini out/in
[02:14] <bruenig> Ahorner, see the lines about half way down that have universe at the end? yeah delete the # from in front of them, then save and exit. Then do sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <Ahorner> :-(
[02:14] <jrib> cables: ahem, lp is not always the most straightforward thing...
[02:15] <r00tintheb0x> Do you have 1 internal hard disk bengold ?
[02:15] <Ahorner> ok
[02:15] <cables> jrib, ok :)
[02:15] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: yeah
[02:15] <therage> got a question.  i have an athlon 64, but have never been able to utilize it with my winXP pro install.  are there any issues or reasons not to install the 64 bit ubuntu?
[02:15] <cables> jrib, do you know why Canonical decided to create Launchpad and not just use Bugzilla or something like that?
[02:15] <levmatta> when I particioned the hd I left my /boot as a particioned because I thought my linux's could share it
[02:15] <clearzen>  therage: In all honesty I've tried it. It's a pain ddon't do it
[02:15] <jrib> cables: I think the idea is to have a central place to report bugs instead of each project having its own
[02:15] <clearzen>  therage: no flash etc etc etc
[02:16] <therage> i had a feeling.  so stick with the 32 bit version?
[02:16] <cables> jrib, so Launchpad is like a meta-bugtracker?
[02:16] <brianves> anyone else have any ideas  how to fix my balance  my right channel is 2x volume
[02:16] <SeveredCross> brianves: Use alsamixer?
[02:16] <r00tintheb0x> Ack, dual booting vista & edgy is a pain.
[02:16] <r00tintheb0x> okay bengold are you booted into the Ubuntu Live CD?
[02:16] <cables> brianves, open the volume control. You can fix it there
[02:16] <brianves> severedcross alsa says its even across
[02:17] <SeveredCross> Weird.
[02:17] <bengold> r00tinthebox: yup
[02:17] <cables> brianves, compensate by putting the right one down...
[02:17] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, are you fimiliar with a bash prompt?
[02:17] <levmatta> anyone??
[02:17] <r00tintheb0x> the text dialouge
[02:17] <harry_> I am using Amarok
[02:17] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: uhhh... no
[02:17] <jrib> cables: yeah in a way, it does that in addition to the translations, specs, support, etc...  There's a #launchpad where someone who actually know what they are talking about can give you a more meaningful answer if you are interested
[02:18] <brianves> cables i need a permanent fix though.  I make music on my pc and when the programs change levels it defaults back to linked volume or baad baalance
[02:18] <harry_> and am wondering if there is a way to access the help menu
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x> ok bengold
[02:18] <tehquickness> Nothing happens when I prest Alt+f2 ..... should I get a run application popup?
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x> msg me, i think i can help you
[02:18] <Ahorner> why did i get this?   :~$ gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <Ahorner> (gedit:10138): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[02:18] <Ahorner> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x>  /msg r00tintheb0x
[02:18] <r00tintheb0x> then type anything
[02:18] <bruenig> Ahorner, don't worry about it
[02:18] <Ahorner> kk
[02:18] <gop> !beryl
[02:18] <cables> Ahorner, I get that all the time, it hasn't caused any problems
[02:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <j0sh0> Hey can someone please tell me how to get Ubuntu to load realtek drivers for my wifi instead of atheros???
[02:18] <Ahorner> changed and saved
[02:18] <Ahorner> updating now
[02:18] <levmatta> how do I install 2 linux (+ the windows) and keep things working
[02:18] <levmatta> ?
[02:18] <main2> anyone using Atheros here?
[02:19] <cables> brianves, change the setting for PCM and use master for regular control
[02:19] <Joshooa> install windows first
[02:19] <Ahorner> ok its done
[02:19] <bruenig> levmatta, just keeb grub up to date
[02:19] <cables> main2, yeah, worked out of the box
[02:19] <Ahorner> now what
[02:19] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, what was the exact error you got again?
[02:19] <digi> what would be the easiest way to send mail from a command line?
[02:19] <main2> i would like to know what madwifi driver comes with dapper
[02:19] <levmatta> main2, no
[02:19] <bruenig> Ahorner, now universe is enabled
[02:19] <tehquickness> Nothing happens when I prest Alt+f2 ..... should I get a run application popup?
[02:19] <Ahorner> yay
[02:19] <cables> levmatta, just install as normal, Ubuntu's installer will detect other OS's.
[02:19] <wilo> hello bruenig
[02:19] <brianves> cables I tried that too same outcome
[02:19] <cables> tehquickness, on GNOME you should
[02:19] <Ahorner> now i install that one thingy
[02:19] <Joshooa> If I install Ubuntu and Fedora, can I have them use the same partition(s) for swap?
[02:19] <main2> cables: could you check dmesg|grep ath    for me?
[02:19] <main2> :)
[02:19] <levmatta> ok
[02:19] <Ahorner> envy
[02:19] <cables> brianves, no idea than...
[02:19] <cables> main2, sure
[02:19] <brianves> cables well thanks anyway
[02:19] <tehquickness> cables, Unfortunatly, I get nothing
[02:20] <levmatta> but in my new linux install I should not use my existing /boot partition
[02:20] <Whatsisname> Joshooa, yes
[02:20] <greig_> bruenig : partition 1 /dev/hda1 -extended (not in use)        partition 2  /dev/hda5 ntfs windows/linux files                 partition 3 /dev/hda6 linux-swap              partition 4 /dev/hda4 ext3 ubuntu install             partition 5 /dev/hda 2 ntfs windows c:/                                Partirion 6 /dev/hda3/ ext3  (this one we just fromated and mounted)
[02:20] <tehquickness> cables, I guess the dumb thing for me to do would be to check the shortcuts lol
[02:20] <cables> tehquickness, maybe :)
[02:20] <Ahorner> i keep gettin a dependancy error when i download the envy thing
[02:20] <kubuntu-familia> Cuidado com o caderudo...
[02:20] <Joshooa> Whatsisname: Sweet thanks
[02:20] <kubuntu-familia> Ele vai te pegar...
[02:20] <bruenig> greig_, yeah you would have to format the windows c:/ to resize
[02:20] <Ahorner> dependenct not satisfyable
[02:20] <Joshooa> Whatsisname: What about a home directory, prob not right?
[02:21] <Ahorner> module assistant
[02:21] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: I have to run the installer again on sec
[02:21] <cables> levmatta, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11786/
[02:21] <levmatta> Joshooa you can reuse the /swap partition (I did this once)
[02:21] <bruenig> greig_, or you would have to reinstall and format partition 4 and 3 and 2 if necessary to get the necessary space
[02:21] <Whatsisname> home directory you can use between both as well
[02:21] <greig_> bruenig : the drive we just formated and mounted, would that be ok to use?
[02:21] <Whatsisname> Joshooa, /home will be fine in both
[02:21] <Ahorner> dependenct not satisfyable: module assistant
[02:21] <tehquickness> cables, I checked those it says it is set to alt+f2 and I even reset it to that
[02:21] <bruenig> greig_, yeah
[02:21] <cables> tehquickness, weird...
[02:21] <r00tintheb0x> okay bengold
[02:21] <Joshooa> And it wont mess up anything in either OS, and I can have the same files in my home directory and they'll be ok?
[02:21] <bruenig> greig_, and then make partition four a 4 gb dead space or something. I guess you could put stuff on it
[02:21] <Ahorner> g2g guys
[02:21] <Ahorner> cya l8r
[02:21] <xptical> is there any problem with moving /var/www to /home/user/www and then chowning the dir to user:user?
[02:22] <Whatsisname> Joshooa, when I first started using gnu/linux I started with Suse, went to debian, to ubuntu, and back to debian, the whole time never started fresh with my /home directory
[02:22] <tehquickness> hmmm maybe I am missing things
[02:22] <Whatsisname> never had a problem whatsoever
[02:22] <bruenig> xptical, no
[02:22] <efface> ok, problem, im using alsa in wine (yes i know oss is recommended but it doesnt work for me) and for the wave out and wave in it lists ASD Capture/Standard, instead of Audigy2 or Emu10k1 like it does in mini out/in
[02:22] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, you dont need to fire up the installer again yet.
[02:22] <cables> levmatta, that help?
[02:22] <tehquickness> cables, what command is that supposed to call?
[02:22] <levmatta> cables I did not understand your post, what does dsmeg have to do with anything
[02:22] <xptical> apache won't freak out and die?
[02:22] <cables> tehquickness, not sure there... lemme try to check
[02:22] <greig_> bruenig : but i will need to install ubuntu again onto any partitions i decide to use?
[02:22] <cables> levmatta, nvm, sent to the wrong person
[02:22] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 od SCSI10 (0,0,0) (sdbd failed
[02:22] <Joshooa> Whatsisname: But what about when I actively use both, and go back and forth, will they both use the home directory, and see the same files okay?
[02:22] <cables> main2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11786/
[02:23] <bruenig> greig_, yeah, the only way you wouldn't have to reinstall is if you formatted your windows c:
[02:23] <tehquickness> cables, maybe I am missing somefile that I can just re install
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have anything on that druve?
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, do you have anything on that drive?
[02:23] <Whatsisname> assuming you set up your fstab properly, and make sure your user account has the same UID, it will work fine
[02:23] <bengold> r00tintheb0x: no
[02:23] <main2> cables: dankjewel :- ))
[02:23] <Whatsisname> all your settings and stuff will work the same on both sides
[02:23] <Joshooa> yeah UID would be the same
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> okay follow me...
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> up top
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> click
[02:23] <Whatsisname> its quite awesome, really
[02:23] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, applications>accessories>terminal
[02:23] <greig_> bruenig : obv my aim is to free up space to add to my  hda4(linux install) without haveing to reistall ubuntu
[02:24] <bengold> yup
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> bengold, private message me because i cant see through all this test
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> type "/msg r00tintheb0x test"
[02:24] <bruenig> greig_, right, you have one choice, format c:. Other than that you will have to reinstall.
[02:24] <wilo> how do i configure wine to play counter strike on ubuntu?
[02:24] <cables> r00tintheb0x, he's not registered
[02:24] <r00tintheb0x> oooh
[02:24] <bruenig> greig_, format c and then incorporate that into hda4
[02:24] <greig_> bruenig ok so say i do format c.......
[02:24] <cables> !register | bengold
[02:24] <ubotu> bengold: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:24] <levmatta> ok, so I will try to install. just one more question: As I understand creating a /boot partition is completely useless
[02:24] <levmatta> is it