[00:00] <Random832> what does it say if there isn't one
[00:00] <MestreLion> who, xdg-open?
[00:00] <Random832> yes
[00:00] <Random832> what does it actually do, on your system, if you run it on the same file that popped up the thing in nautilus
[00:01] <huhu> http://pastebin.com/2bDuqHjx, this is what it syas, dr_willis, yeats
[00:01] <sparkss> all I edited in menu.lst was the kernel line to point to a device rather than the uuid
[00:01] <MestreLion> Random832:  "gvfs-open: file:///home/rodrigo/wine/teste.mdb: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file"
[00:01] <sparkss> and I can still boot in kernel 3.2
[00:01] <Random832> ah
[00:01] <harris> how do i make libreoffice look like microsoft office
[00:01] <Random832> i was wondering if maybe the nautilus thing worked by registering itself as a handler for */*
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> harris, I see nothing on the web other then icons.
[00:02] <sparkss> I dont understand
[00:02] <chaord> wilee-nilee: sorry for the delay, thanks much for the help!  no partial upgrades, got it ;)
[00:02] <harris> on the web?
[00:02] <MestreLion> Random832: while Nautilus goes a step further... it offers to search for "instalable" apps that can handle the file, and interacts with apt
[00:02] <she_dyed> sparkss: is /root or / on /dev/sdg1
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> chaord, Good, enjoy. ;)
[00:02] <Aww> harris, have a look at WPS Office
[00:03] <harris> Aww, i dont know how to make it english
[00:03] <MestreLion> Random832:  it finds a package whose .desktop file handles that mime-type and asks if the user whants to install such package
[00:03] <sparkss> its /
[00:03] <sparkss> UUID=b3e4d55e-d29a-4007-8238-fb65ac52846a / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[00:03] <sparkss> thats my fstab
[00:04] <MestreLion> Random832: which is a *very* clever and convenient behavior that I want to invoke programatically
[00:04] <Random832> hmm no ida
[00:04] <Random832> *idea
[00:04] <Aww> harris, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121775
[00:04] <yeats> huhu: so you were using LVM before?  I'm confused
[00:04] <Aww> not sure if it will work, but worth a try
[00:04] <MestreLion> Does anyone?
[00:05] <sparkss> if I google this, I get around 30 pages of mixed results, but no one has solved the issue
[00:05] <MestreLion> Does anyone? I would like to know how to programatically invoke the same dialog that nautilus does when user double-clicks a file that has no handler installed
[00:06] <MestreLion> sparkss: menu.lst? ext3? Are you really running ubuntu?
[00:06] <huhu> yeats, yes. full disk encryption, messud up upgrade, messed. why is there no volume to mount?
[00:06] <Aww> harris, I just tried it, it works :)
[00:06] <harris> ok hopfully
[00:06] <sparkss> yes I am
[00:06] <sparkss> I only use ext3 for my main o/s
[00:06] <sparkss> ext4 for everything else
[00:07] <yeats> huhu: so you're on a 12.10 live CD and you're trying to rescue your data?
[00:07] <MestreLion> sparkss: and where is menu.lst coming from?
[00:07] <huhu> 11.10, yeats
[00:07] <sparkss> however, im trying to resize2fs an ext4 file system larger than 16TB
[00:07] <harris> why is the download take so long Aww
[00:07] <sparkss> and this is only do-able with kernel 3.7 and aboive
[00:07] <sparkss> menu.lst is coming from my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:07] <sparkss> on my system
[00:07] <yeats> huhu: ok, so have you installed lvm2 and cryptsetup already?
[00:07] <huhu> this the 1 i had,....yeats
[00:07] <MestreLion> sparkss: that is grub one, Ubuntu does not use since 2009
[00:07] <huhu> yes
[00:08] <Aww> harris, not sure, I think it only took a few seconds to download for me, but I have a pretty fast Internet connection
[00:08] <sparkss> well
[00:08] <sparkss> im running ubuntu 12.04 right now
[00:08] <sparkss> with kernel 3.2
[00:08] <sparkss> with grub1
[00:08] <harris> is there a terminal code Aww
[00:08] <FloodBot1> sparkss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <yeats> huhu: so what is the output of 'lvdisplay'?
[00:08] <sparkss> uname -a
[00:08] <sparkss> Linux homeserver.net 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:08] <Aww> harris, terminal code for?
[00:08] <MestreLion> sparkss: which you installed and configuredyourself
[00:08] <harris> to install wps
[00:09] <sparkss> you really must think im a newbie lol, which I am not
[00:09] <Aww> harris, not sure
[00:09] <huhu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lvdisplay   No volume groups found, yeats
[00:09] <MestreLion> sparkss: I'm sure you are not. No newbie would be able to replace the default grub2 with grub one and still be able to make it run
[00:09] <bean> is the a crypted lvm you're trying to mount, sorry, just reading for first time.
[00:10] <sparkss> I started this ubuntu with 8.04
[00:10] <dr_willis> i cant even imageine why you would want grub1. ;) but im not paying attention.. im at work.
[00:10] <sparkss> and have upgraded each LTS revision
[00:10] <sparkss> which is why im still on grub1
[00:10] <sparkss> but I don't believe grub to be the problem
[00:10] <yeats> huhu: what is the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[00:10] <tmus> MestreLion, from what I can see, xdg-open is the way to go - even from an app... Simply "system" it, or whatever works for your exact needs
[00:11] <MestreLion> sparkss: that is precisely my point... your system seems very different from the default for an IRC channel to be able to help you
[00:11] <harris> Aww, does this
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> harris, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/wps-office-for-linux-looks-like-microsoft-office-but-isnt
[00:11] <harris> wget -c wdl.cache.ijinshan.com/wps/download/Linux/unstable/wps-office_<IP_ADDRESS>24~b1p2_i386.deb
[00:11] <harris> thats what we are trying
[00:12] <tmus> MestreLion, If your're building a "gnome" app, have a look at g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri()
[00:12] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  makes me wonder what MS's legal dept thinks of that.
[00:12] <MestreLion> tmus: not. I use xdg-open a lot already. But it merely opens a file or not. It does not open a dialog offering to install packages that handle a file type
[00:12] <huhu> yeats thx, here: http://pastebin.com/tcZM9Fvm
[00:12] <Aww> harris, yeah thats were I got my copy
[00:13] <MestreLion> tmus: well, I'm using a mix of bash and python, so any metho of invoking that dialog in either language would be fine
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Hehe yeah, seems like a waste of time, but I don't actually customize my setup with visual stuff much.
[00:13] <harris> where does this download to Aww
[00:13] <Aww> harris, depends on where you used the wget command
[00:13] <harris> terminal
[00:13] <dr_willis> yep... its a terminal command. ;)
[00:14] <Aww> harris, check your home folder
[00:14] <harris> ok
[00:14] <dr_willis> your terminal can be cd'd to anywhere you want harris  and it would download there...
[00:14] <yeats> huhu: try 'sudo mkdir /mnt/lv' then 'sudo mount /dev/mapper/MYTAG /mnt/lv'
[00:14] <MestreLion> tmus:  g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri() is the function that ends up being called when xdg-open is used... but it does not show any GUI dialog suggesting to install packages
[00:14] <she_dyed> sparkss: so stuck on device not found? hey try the grub command line
[00:16] <she_dyed> sparkss: if you make this work you're my hero
[00:16] <she_dyed> sandwich
[00:16] <MestreLion> tmus: I would like to know which method/component/plugin/whatever Nautilus uses to search apt package database and suggests packages for files that have no configured apps
[00:17] <MestreLion> I'm not sure if this is a Nautilus/Gnome thing or an Uuntu-only feature
[00:18] <tmus> MestreLion, right... Hmmm... looking around
[00:18] <huhu> yeats, thx, it *seemed to work, but how can I access it in nautilus?
[00:18] <yeats> huhu: try navigating to /mnt/lv
[00:19] <MestreLion> I think it is "session-installer"
[00:20] <huhu> yeats, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /mnt/lv bash: /mnt/lv: Is a directory
[00:21] <yeats> huhu: 'cd /mnt/lv'
[00:21] <MestreLion> tmus: or at least session-installer is a piece of the puzzle. it is the one that installs the selected package
[00:22] <Aww> harris, did you get it too work?
[00:22] <huhu> oops, of course yeats, thx, now i have the problem that my home directory is encrypted on top!^^
[00:23] <sparkss> she_dyed: what did you mean earlier, I was eating
[00:23] <yeats> huhu: does it not prompt you for the encryption password?
[00:23] <she_dyed> sparkss: so are you stuck on device not found? hey try the grub command line
[00:23] <she_dyed> the good thing about grub1
[00:23] <MestreLion> tmus: Random832: PackageKit!!!! :D
[00:23] <sparkss> yes, but its working with kernel 3.2, boots perfectly fine
[00:23] <she_dyed> uh huh
[00:24] <she_dyed> thats progress
[00:24] <tmus> MestreLion, that makes sense
[00:24] <sparkss> yeah, but this is where I have been at for close to 3 hours....
[00:24] <sparkss> usually updating a kernel is a 10 minute process
[00:24] <huhu> yeats, no. ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/lv/home$ cd XXX bash: cd: xdardovv: Permission denied
[00:25] <huhu> yeats, no. ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/lv/home$ cd XXX bash: cd: XXX: Permission denied
[00:25] <huhu> ^^
[00:25] <bean> huhu, become root and try, it's probably a permissions problem.
[00:29] <huhu> bean; ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[00:29] <gg__> can anyone link a guide on bitcoin mining for ubuntu?
[00:29] <gg__> a working guide? tried a few but failed with 404s
[00:29] <sparkss> gonna try grub2
[00:30] <gg__> er, specifically "E: Unable to locate package bitcoin"
[00:30] <gg__> anything I may be overlooking?
[00:30] <huhu> bean yeats, there is a readme, saying: THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.  From the graphical desktop, click on:  "Access Your Private Data"  or  From the command line, run:  ecryptfs-mount-private
[00:31] <huhu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly, yeats, bean
[00:32] <sparkss> ok, same issue with grub2 folks :/
[00:33] <dr_willis> so that sort of narrows it down to the kernel itself?
[00:33] <sparkss> I also tried kernel 3.8
[00:33] <sparkss> stable
[00:33] <sparkss> same issue there :/
[00:33] <dr_willis> about the only way i could think of to Prove that however.. would be to try a clean install (perhaps in virtualbox) and try to recreate the issue
[00:34] <sparkss> what are the chances that (2) stable kernel releases built/compiled and distrod on ubuntu.com are borked?
[00:34] <dr_willis> you said they came from a ppa i thouight
[00:35] <user0000001> hello...  i just installed ubuntu 12.04, and when installing, somehow the resolution was turned up high i think, some icons on the top right got really big, as did my mouse...  i have since finished installing, and restarted and am using ubuntu, but in certain applications the mouse icon is really big
[00:35] <sparkss> they are still stable kernels
[00:35] <user0000001> i dont know what it is
[00:35] <sparkss> according to kernel.org
[00:35] <huhu> yeats, bean : do you think this might help?
[00:35] <huhu> yeats, bean : do you think this might help?http://nerdbynature.de/s9y/?192
[00:35] <dr_willis> sparkss:  if they messed  up or frogot an option.. it would make sence...
[00:35] <dr_willis> sparkss:  or theres some config issue and its not the kernels..
[00:36] <sparkss> I mean, thousands of people are clearly having the same issue
[00:36] <sparkss> according to googles search indexing
[00:36] <dr_willis> ive compiled kernels in the past and messed up things befor.. the fact they are 'stable' dident matter.
[00:37] <dr_willis> basic trouble shooting  - is it a kernel issue.. or a non kernel issue..     how to test to prove one way or the other - would be the logical step
[00:37] <user0000001> ...including when i am in xchat and firefox, if i hover over a link the mouse icon gets HUGE
[00:37] <sparkss> hmm
[00:37] <yeats> huhu: I would probably try something like that, yeah
[00:38] <huhu> yeats, you sure?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, How about a screenshot in a imagebin.
[00:38] <sparkss> my head hurts
[00:38] <dr_willis> sparkss:  if thousands of people are having the same issue.. sounds like it may be a deeper issue then this channel may  be abble to handle.
[00:39] <dr_willis> I wonder if the kernel channel may  know more. it may be affeccting other disrtos also
[00:39] <yeats> huhu: this might help too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642790
[00:40] <sparkss> good point
[00:40] <user0000001> ok wilee-nilee
[00:40] <huhu> yeats, im on a live cd, those guys werent i think...
[00:41] <bean> huhu, i think this guy was: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[00:41] <user0000001> wilee-nilee, it is hard to get the screenshot to show the mouse being big
[00:41] <yeats> huhu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[00:43] <huhu> yeats, which one on the last link ... too confiused,., thx
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, use the prtsc key I wonder if you do not have orca running it is a app for disabilities basically.
[00:44] <yeats> huhu: the link I just shared has you chroot into your previous system - I would probably try that method first
[00:45] <huhu> yeats: root@ubuntu:/# ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[00:45] <yeats> huhu: try the instructions at that link
[00:45] <user0000001> wilee-nilee, is there a terminal command to show all the apps running
[00:45] <user0000001> ?
[00:46] <huhu> all? tells about usb etc, yeats
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, YOu can install htop and see everything and search for stuff and close as well among other tools
[00:46] <bean> huhu: the part about adding your user, and "su - username"
[00:46] <yeats> huhu: were you going to copy your data somewhere? if so, a USB is probably a good option if you have one
[00:47] <user0000001> wilee-nilee, i dont think i have orca running...  i just openned it, and then it was reading the screen, and then i hit quit
[00:47] <huhu> bean ,yeats, what script/link r u talking about exactly?
[00:47] <user0000001> i looked in  universal access as well
[00:47] <user0000001> :(
[00:48] <huhu> yeats, i have another hd to copy it
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, This is not an area of expertise really, and I suspect without a visual sort of hard to track down, or a definitive description.
[00:48] <bean> huhu, i think this guy was: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[00:48] <yeats> huhu: ok, well, then no need for USB then, right?
[00:49] <huhu> yeats, yes, i will need one, cuz its anexternal hd
[00:49] <Kawobei_work> hey how get into a user account on Ubuntu touch developer preview on Nexus 10
[00:50] <huhu> bean what is "goshawk" there? just a random name?
[00:50] <Kawobei_work> there are accounts to use but all password protected
[00:50] <bean> your username on the hard drive
[00:50] <anguiish> Hey guys; would it be possible to modify unity's music dash previews to keep playing the rest of the song instead of just stoping when the user closes the dash?
[00:50] <goshawk> huhu,  ?
[00:50] <huhu> ok thnks bean
[00:50] <bean> huhu, your username on the hard drive, like that you used to log in with
[00:50] <goshawk> huhu, what the problem is
[00:50] <Crckh34d> why would u wanna do that>
[00:50] <huhu> yeats, yes, i will need an usb, cuz its anexternal hd where im going to rescue copy my stuff
[00:50] <Crckh34d> try JACK,
[00:51] <Crckh34d> with a 5.1 soundcard
[00:51] <yeats> huhu: ok
[00:51] <bean> huhu, okay, so follow those instructions.
[00:52] <user0000001> okay wilee-nilee , i am in dconf-editor...  can you please go in there and go to org>gnome>desktop>interface and tell me what value you have for cursor size?  mine is 48
[00:52] <user0000001> or someone else
[00:52] <huhu> bean, it says enter NEW unix pw
[00:52] <user0000001> ohh i just clicked set to default and it changed to 24
[00:52] <bean> correct, use the same password you had when it worked
[00:52] <user0000001> i bet that will do it!!!!!
[00:52] <user0000001> this must be a bug
[00:53] <bazhang> !touch | Kawobei_work
[00:53] <user0000001> but the problem is fixed!!!!!!
[00:53] <user0000001> yay
[00:53] <sparkss> ok, I just noticed something
[00:54] <sparkss> the grub config appears to be right, however, when its booting, I noticed that the UUID has changed ( just a tiny bit)
[00:54] <huhu> nean, thx, now it says, Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default, really dunno if im comprehending this fully, dont wanna mess it up..
[00:54] <sparkss> not sure if this is normal
[00:54] <huhu> bean, thx, now it says, Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default, really dunno if im comprehending this fully, dont wanna mess it up..
[00:54] <bean> just hit enter all the way through
[00:55] <huhu> bean, sure? (thx)
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> user0000001, I don't have that installed, honestly you are better talking to the channel.
[00:55] <bean> huhu, yeah, just hit til you're back at a prompt
[00:56] <sparkss> changing to /dev/sdg1 didnt work
[00:56] <sparkss> :(
[00:57] <Rb26> hello World! I need help trying to install XFREE86 scalable fonts?
[00:57] <Kawobei_work> bazhang: which account does that password work for
[00:58] <huhu> bean: 	Full Name []:  	Room Number []:  	Work Phone []:  	Home Phone []:  	Other []:  Is the information correct? [Y/n] y root@ubuntu:/# /home/xdardovv# su xdardovv bash: /home/xdardovv#: No such file or directory root@ubuntu:/# cd home/xdardovv bash: cd: home/xdardovv: No such file or directory root@ubuntu:/# ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly root@ubuntu:/#
[00:58] <bazhang> Kawobei_work, use the #ubuntu-touch channel for support please
[00:58] <Kawobei_work> ok, no one talking in there at all
[00:58] <Runemoro> It's taking a VERY long time to install linux-headers packages with dpkg -i
[00:58] <bean> huhu, can you please pastebin that stuff instead?
[00:58] <bazhang> Kawobei_work, so be patient
[00:59] <Kawobei_work> you know finally got it on, all excited
[00:59] <huhu> sure bean w8
[00:59] <harris> Aww, it just got done downloading sorry went out to work on shot put
[00:59] <Aww> Ah, Okay
[00:59] <Runemoro> !!! It just Ctrl-C'd by it's self!
[01:00] <huhu> bean, http://pastebin.com/V0jZtpsa
[01:00] <harris> what do i do now the first code says no file or directory
[01:00] <Aww> harris, you installed it right?
[01:00] <Rb26> Hi!  I need to install xfre86 scalable fonts in ubuntu.  I use a software called Hyperworks. I need to use the scalable fonts because the current  GUI fonts makes it almost impossible to use it. Help Anyone?
[01:01] <harris> downloaded the deb
[01:01] <bean> huhu try "su - xdardovv"
[01:01] <bean> it should put you on a prompt
[01:01] <Aww> harris, yeah now you need to install it
[01:01] <harris> how
[01:01] <Aww> just double click it and Ubuntu Software Center should open
[01:02] <huhu> bean, thx, just had the same "idea" just without the hyphen
[01:02] <sparkss> why can I not figure this out people!
[01:02] <Aww> or in whatever package manger you have
[01:02] <bean> huhu: did that give you a prompt?
[01:02] <huhu> bean, nope
[01:02] <huhu> root@ubuntu:/# su xdardovv xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[01:02] <junkNown> Ohhh boy. I just installed steam for ubuntu. Now unity will not launch after I rebooted. How can I fix this?
[01:03] <huhu> bean: root@ubuntu:/# su xdardovv xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ ecryptfs-mount-private ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[01:03] <bean> huhu sudo ecryptfs-mount-private
[01:04] <huhu> bean xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private [sudo] password for xdardovv:  xdardovv is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.,,,strange message!
[01:06] <jdelgado> @huhu you tried to execute sudo on a user without sudo privileges
[01:06] <bean> oh, huhu, lets add your user to sudoers, type exit, and get back to the root prompt, then type "sudo adduser <username> sudo"
[01:07] <dysto> hello, I am trying to strip down ubuntu 10.04.4 to make a bootable flashdrive to run armory bitcoin wallet from, and have made it to the point of chrooting into the extracted squashfs.. now I can't purge packages with aptitude..
[01:08] <junkNown> Is it possible Unity would have broken because steam tried to install drivers for the built in graphics in my i7 2600k?
[01:08] <huhu> bean: "root prompt" is where im @ root@ubuntu?
[01:08] <[snake]> Hello, I accidentally updated my linux kernel to version 3.8.7 and now everything is squished(my display I mean) and my Additional Drivers has A LOT of extra drivers and everything. basically, I need to know if I can change it back, please and thankyou.
[01:08] <bean> huhu, yep "adduser username sudo"
[01:09] <dysto> I get " dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found on PATH. "
[01:09] <dr_willis> dysto:  look for where ldconfig is at and add it to your  PATH perhaps?
[01:10] <passerine> junkNown, no idea but once installed some lib without noticing that it would remove something for me, until the next day when I started up to a black screen, and had to boot the DVD, mount and found the cause in /var/log/apt.
[01:10] <dysto> dr_willis: how do I computer? lol
[01:10] <huhu> bean: http://pastebin.com/r0tNqMC1
[01:11] <bean> huhu, sudo ecryptfs-mount-private
[01:11] <huhu> bean: same: xdardovv@ubuntu:/$ sudo ecryptfs-mount-private [sudo] password for xdardovv:  ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly xdardovv@ubuntu:/$
[01:11] <junkNown> It's weird, I can open terminal, and other things from terminal. But can't resize windows, no unity interface, can't move windows.
[01:12] <dysto> dr_willis: seriously, how do I add things to PATH.. and where is it?
[01:13] <bean> huhu, try sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[01:13] <dr_willis> dysto:  err.. you  are doing this project and you dont know the basics of the shell?
[01:13] <dr_willis> export PATH=$PATH;/add/other/dir
[01:13] <bean> its a : not a ;
[01:14] <[snake]> lol, my resolution is 1600x1200 but my actual monitor's resolution is 1368x768
[01:14] <huhu> bean : THX, semms to work now, still loading, THXTHXTHX! :sudo ecryptfs-recover-private INFO: Searching for encrypted private directories (this might take a while)...
[01:14] <dr_willis> junkNown:  that is a way  way to common issue.. and can happen for many reasons sadly
[01:14] <[snake]> it's displaying 1600x1200 I mean.
[01:14] <dysto> dr_willis: I know, I'm crazy. Thank you. :) is there a resource page where I can rtfm?
[01:14] <dr_willis> junkNown:  compiiz is crashing or failing for some reason its not seeing the 3d drivers. or somthing like that.. ive never seen a  general reason, or a standard fix
[01:15] <dr_willis> dysto:  the bash abs and other docs are online.. at 10000's of sites
[01:15] <junkNown> :(
[01:15] <dr_willis> !abs
[01:15] <dysto> thank you so much. :D
[01:16] <[snake]> anyone can help me with my kernel? I have the old kernel still I think. It has a bunch of old versions, I just need help with knowing exactly what to do.
[01:16] <dr_willis> dysto:  you may  be beter off starting with the mini cd/install and adding what you need.
[01:16] <[snake]> cause of grub mostly I think
[01:16] <dr_willis> [snake]:  use the latest kernel that works.. and keep like one or 2 older ones for backup. just in case.
[01:16] <[snake]> dr_willis, I'll repost my original question for you to see.
[01:16] <[snake]> Hello, I accidentally updated my linux kernel to version 3.8.7 and now everything is squished(my display I mean) and my Additional Drivers has A LOT of extra drivers and everything. basically, I need to know if I can change it back, please and thankyou.
[01:17] <dr_willis> updated the kernel how?
[01:17] <dysto> dr_willis: I thought of that too, I will try that. I just need gnome and armory, and there is a zip for armory that has all it's dependencies and a script to install them all.
[01:17] <dr_willis> the kernel version shouldent be affecting whats shown in the 'addational drivers' tool as far as i know either.
[01:18] <dr_willis> dysto:  id just use lubuntu if its going to  be a sitting in the corner all day sort of machine.
[01:18] <huhu> bean, do you know what it exactly will do after this prompt? Try to recover this directory? [Y/n]:
[01:19] <[snake]> dr_willis, I am using the latest one from kernel.org. I compiled it according to the readme. apparently the last command I used out of the three actually installed it.
[01:19] <bean> huhu, it will try to read the dir
[01:19] <dr_willis> [snake]:  and why are you doing all this?
[01:19] <[snake]> let me take a photo of my additional drivers it used to only display my nvidia
[01:19] <dysto> dr_willis: I want to have it installed on a flash drive, but not as a live system. so I can boot from the flash drive from most any machine and do offline transactions. that way I don't need a dedicated machine, just the flash drive.
[01:19] <dr_willis> [snake]:  there some special feature of the  newer kernel you need?  there are ppa's for newer kernels i belive.. but ive never needed to mess with them
[01:19] <huhu> bean thx: INFO: Success!  Private data mounted read-only at [/tmp/ecryptfs.yNfwzWza].
[01:20] <dr_willis> dysto:  sounds like another reason to use lubuntu, instead of ubuntu . ;) smaller insrtall sizew
[01:20] <bean> huhu, nice!
[01:20] <junkNown> Well here is the last 2 things that apt installed, one of which made Unity break (i can still ctrl-alt-t to terminal an open programs). I'm running a Raedon HD6950 wit prop drivers (or at least before this), and I have an i2600k processor. http://pastebin.com/SJhMSHmW
[01:20] <[snake]> dr_willis, I did not expect it to install, I was just messing around haha. the point is that I need to change back to my old kernel.
[01:20] <huhu> bean wo can I thank you?
[01:20] <dr_willis> [snake]:  select the older kenrrels from the grub menu.
[01:21] <bean> huhu, *shrug*
[01:21] <dysto> dr:willis: right, I was going to use xubuntu. I like xfce. :) but I also don't want to have compatibility issues. I guess the only real difference is the interface? as long as I use 10.04, right?
[01:21] <huhu> bean *how
[01:21] <[snake]> dr_willis, oh. that's convenient.
[01:21] <bean> huhu, no need to.
[01:21] <[snake]> how do I get the grub menu?
[01:22] <[snake]> dr_willis, it doesn't really matter anymore, but here is that picture of my Additional Drivers: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=317b0bc&s=6 I'll google the grub thing
[01:23] <[snake]> thanks
[01:23] <[snake]> cya
[01:24] <dysto> dr_willis: my initial effort was to install ubuntu to the flashdrive, uninstall all the stuff I didn't need, install armory, update everything, then I dd the flashdrive partition to an img file, tried to write it back to the flashdrive, and no love. :(
[01:28] <huhu> bean, maybe a jke for u?
[01:29] <bean> huhu, that's alright
[01:30] <huhu> bean, another question: how can i find out whther i can intall the 64bit version of ubuntu12.04 on my hardware?
[01:30] <dejavue> huhu, what kind of processor do you have?
[01:31] <huhu> dejavue, sth like a 2.3 dual
[01:31] <huhu> ...ghz
[01:31] <bean> huhu, "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and pastebin it
[01:32] <dejavue> 2.3 ghz dual, but what kind of cpu chips?
[01:33] <huhu> bean, http://pastebin.com/KxfbfFh8
[01:33] <dejavue> huhu, amd athlon, athlon64, intel 64, etc etc
[01:33] <huhu> dejavue pentiumiii i guess
[01:33] <dejavue> pentium-3 can not run a 64-bit os
[01:34] <huhu> dejavue Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
[01:34] <bean> pentium D
[01:34] <dejavue> yes then, you can run a 64 bit, probably
[01:34] <bean> you can.
[01:34] <bean> thats a 64 bit chip
[01:34] <huhu> dejavue, bean, already d/l the 12.04 64 bit live dvd, which doesnt boot
[01:35] <Brotox> who's pro in irc commands here ?
[01:35] <PartTimeLegend> Does anyone know of  ruby/c++ solution that publishes gpg public keys in a directory?
[01:35] <bean> huhu, what error does it give?
[01:35] <bean> Brotox, not really related to this channel
[01:35] <Brotox> i've kicked myself from my own channel, how can i get back as op ?
[01:35] <Brotox> :d
[01:36] <dejavue> huhu, some of intel's early 64-bit chips were not very compatible, that why I said "probably"
[01:36] <huhu> bean, no error, just didnt load it when i was trying to boot it, "no operating system " or sth,
[01:36] <PartTimeLegend> brotox /j #freenode
[01:36] <bean> Brotox, usually you'd have registered the channel with chanserv, and chanserv would op you.
[01:36] <jdelgado> @brotox go to your channel, then run /chanserv op #<your chan> brotox
[01:36] <huhu> dejavue. might be an early 1
[01:37] <Brotox> u rock jdelgado !!
[01:37] <Brotox> thanks
[01:37] <dejavue> huhu, you can try a 32-bit version, if it boots, that was the problem, if not then you have another problem
[01:38] <huhu> dejavue just figured out howto get rif of this problem, thx to bean and yeats
[01:38] <dejavue> huhu, 32 or 64 only matters if you have more than 4gb ram
[01:38] <jdelgado> @brotox No problem pal, glad to help.
[01:38] <huhu> dejavue, the 11.10 32bit just booted right afterwards (livecd)
[01:39] <dejavue> then that was the problem
[01:39] <huhu> dejavue, do u have a command to show this?
[01:39] <dejavue> show what?
[01:39] <huhu> my ram sizes
[01:40] <dejavue> it's in your dmesg output
[01:40] <bean> huhu "free -m"
[01:41] <huhu> bean dejavue, on live cd, dows it matter?
[01:41] <bean> no
[01:41] <cajun> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an older computer that isn't supporting CD install.  I did a net install from GRUB to install 12.10. However, when it loads after login, I don't get the GDM. I get the wallpaper and that's it. How can I fix this?
[01:41] <bean> cajun, how much ram does the older computer have
[01:42] <cajun> I honestly don't remember.
[01:42] <huhu> http://pastebin.com/FiRjGqhi bean dejavue
[01:42] <[snake]> cajun, if you use ctrl alt f1 you can access a terminal. if that doesn't load then your computer is working VERY hard to display more.
[01:42] <cajun> It used to run 9.04 just fine until I somehow messed up up during an upgrade to 9.10
[01:42] <huhu> bean dejavue, so no more than 4 gb...
[01:42] <dr_willis> cajun:   also whats the video  card. theres common issue/problem where compiz/unity dosent fully load due to driver issues. but a differnt desktop like Lubuntu may work fine
[01:42] <bean> huhu, yep, 3.2 GB
[01:43] <dr_willis> cajun:  if its a lower end machine. Lubuntu may be a better desktop to use anyway. You can install it via 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop;
[01:43] <cajun> i'll give that a try.  The video card is a GEForce.  Not positive of further details on it. It's probably 10 yrs old or so.
[01:43] <dr_willis> cajun:  i via 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop'
[01:43] <huhu> bean dejavue so a 64 bit installation is not worth it? i mean, not worth  a try?
[01:43] <dr_willis> 10 yrs old? id definatly be using lubuntu
[01:43] <bean> huhu, not really
[01:44] <huhu> bean, ok. thoght i might be faster than using the pae kernel...
[01:44] <[snake]> dr_willis, would you know if ubuntu has a config file for the kernel that I could use -oldconfig when compiling with?
[01:44] <bean> huhu, no
[01:44] <dejavue> huhu, 64-bit only matters at all if you have more than 4gb ram. If you have more 4gb and you try to use 32-bit you will either not see all the memory or sometimes crash instantly
[01:45] <androidfr33k> I have to use 64 bit to build android roms  jeally bean (jb) needs to be built in 64 bit environment
[01:45] <cajun> i got the terminal window
[01:45] <bean> androidfr33k, likely
[01:46] <DummyBook> hello
[01:46] <dr_willis> [snake]:  no  idea. ive not needed to mess with the kernel in years. i think there is some  /proc/file that shows what confoig  was used for the currently running kernel
[01:46] <DummyBook> where is the decaut download folder on ubutu?
[01:46] <DummyBook> defualt
[01:46] <dejavue> you can't just cross compile with 64 bit libraries?
[01:46] <dr_willis> but ive  not seen/looked for it in ages
[01:46] <androidfr33k> Dont always go by memory
[01:46] <KatsumeBlisk> DummyBook: your home directory
[01:46] <[snake]> cajun, oh that's good. I wonder if there is a text install mode. though you might rather get the lubuntu live cd image. you're in a live cd right?
[01:46] <KatsumeBlisk> DummyBook: so Downloads in your home directory.
[01:46] <DummyBook> KatsumeBlisk: thank you, for some reason mine was "hidden"
[01:46] <androidfr33k> You have to have 64 bit install
[01:47] <xMopxShell> Hi - how can I add secondary or more IPs to eth0 in the /etc/network/interfaces file? To get the same result as running `ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0`
[01:47] <bean> xMopxShell, same way, but eth0:1 as the name of the interface.
[01:47] <cajun> nope.  i can run the ubuntu 9.10 live  cd, but it just won't install. it will run in the special graphics mode though
[01:48] <xMopxShell> bean: that's a different (depreciated) method.
[01:48] <dejavue> then I stand corrected, huhu, if you are planning on compiling android roms, you need 64 bit
[01:48] <bean> xMopxShell, not that i'm aware of?
[01:48] <[snake]> cajun, oh ok. then as dr_willis said. use sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop to get the lubuntu desktop. idk why I thought you were in live cd???
[01:48] <cajun> lubuntu installing now.  the term window is on ubuntu 12.10 full installation
[01:48] <huhu> dejavue, nope , evn dunno ehat they do
[01:48] <cajun> it's ok snake
[01:48] <[snake]> ok cool :)
[01:49] <[snake]> :P
[01:49] <cajun> still installing...no errors
[01:49] <[snake]> yep, that might take a bit of time cajun
[01:50] <dejavue> huhu, if it won't boot 64, the choice is made for you
[01:50] <huhu> deajvue, thx
[01:51] <huhu> is a live cd going to hibernate after a certain time?
[01:51] <cajun> i used the livecd to get the files onto the computer so that I could perform the net install. The really strange thing is that despite burning the CD at the lowest speed, the old PC just wouldn't accept it. The "official" 9.10 live CD is accepted. I'm just so confused by all that. At least I'm getting something now. Thanks to the help of this channel.
[01:51] <ai9371> someone please help flash player not working
[01:52] <ai9371> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[01:52] <[snake]> cajun, glad to hear that we could help you :D
[01:52] <[snake]> ai9371, did you install the restricted extras?
[01:52] <HoNgOuRu> how do I format a hdd ??
[01:52] <HoNgOuRu> help
[01:52] <ai9371> [snake] yeah i did that
[01:52] <ai9371> still no working!
[01:52] <ai9371> please help!
[01:52] <[snake]> ai9371, go to adobe's site I guess.
[01:52] <ai9371> i did that and i Downloaded 11.2
[01:53] <[snake]> ai9371, did you reboot?
[01:53] <ai9371> it just takes me to package manager where it is already installed
[01:53] <ai9371> yes i rebooted
[01:53] <[snake]> ai9371, how many times?
[01:53] <sheldor> is there a way to edit the Network Manager Wifi connections (the password namely) in the console direclty? (without wpa_supplicant)
[01:54] <[snake]> HoNgOuRu, I like using cfdisk myself. idk if it's available with apt-get. but most users might just use disk utility
[01:55] <[snake]> HoNgOuRu, do you know how to open disk utility?
[01:56] <huhu> alright, dejavu, bean, dr_willis, yeats, thx for helping me out. time is running. 4 am am gotta be up in 3h. hope the live cd system wont suspend the session when i meet the Zs
[02:05] <cajun> will i be able to use this old computer to watch online videos from hulu and netflix once lubuntu is installed?
[02:06] <bean> cajun, hulu yes (probably), netflix is a bit more complicated.
[02:07] <bean> !netflix | cajun
[02:08] <cajun> thx bean.
[02:10] <sheldor> guys
[02:10] <sheldor> how can i get e4fsprogs
[02:10] <sheldor> its not in the repos
[02:11] <dr_willis> !find e4fsprogs
[02:11] <dr_willis> perhaps its under a similer name
[02:12] <a_b0y> is ubuntu optimized for touch screen?
[02:12] <dr_willis> !find e4fsck
[02:12] <bean> e2fsprogs probably
[02:12] <bean> !find e2fsprogs
[02:12] <bean> !info e2fsprogs
[02:12] <dr_willis> google hits for e4fsprogs show its a package for redhat. that has various extg4 tools. and names so  not go conflicet with the ext2 tools
[02:13] <bean> e2fsprogs has all the utils
[02:13] <dr_willis> i see no mentionof any such package on ubuntu or debian
[02:13] <dr_willis> bean:  makes sence to me. ;)
[02:13] <dr_willis> a_b0y:  the unity desktop is designed with touch screens/tablets in mind. no idea how well it actually works on such devices
[02:14] <Jpmh> a_b0y: I produce and maintain a Point of Sale system that uses touch screens and un modified Ubuntu and works VERY WELL
[02:15] <dr_willis> sheldor:  http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1036930        gives the answer.. :) it dont exist on ubuntu. use the e2* package
[02:15] <Jpmh> a_b0y: and dr_willis  while it is claimed that unity is optimized for touch screens it does not work as well as standard Gnome with multi-touch
[02:16] <dr_willis> only  touch screen os i use is android. ;)
[02:16] <cajun> thx bean and mr_willis. i'm in now. :)
[02:16] <Jpmh> a_b0y: what do you want to do with a touch screen?
[02:19] <quem> "He who has diarrhea knows the direction of the door without being told." -- Ugandan proverb
[02:21] <BHXSpecter> my system starting acting up and now my system related icons won't show in the launcher...Home folder, terminal, workspaces, trash can, etc are just blank spots on my launcher => http://twitpic.com/cjvs2k/full
[02:23] <dr_willis> BHXSpecter:  try changeing icon themes, then changeing  the theme back perhaps.. could be the icon cache is messed up. ive seen that happen ages ago. but im not sure how to f ix it these days
[02:23] <BHXSpecter> okay I will try that :)
[02:25] <bloodydad> REGISTER 1988519<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:25] <BHXSpecter> that fixed it
[02:26] <BHXSpecter> was worried it was something worse heh
[02:26] <dr_willis> icon cache would be my guess.
[02:27] <dr_willis> bloodydad:  :) you may  want to query the servicce bots
[02:28] <BHXSpecter> yeah, apparently the Oxygen-gtk theme was causing a crash to occur
[02:28] <BHXSpecter> was bad enough that terminal was even freezing it......just replicated the affect...changed it to Radiance and it fixed it
[02:31] <dr_willis> thats odd.
[02:32] <dr_willis> i tend to use some of the themes from the Webupd8 blog sites ppa
[02:32] <dr_willis> they tend to keep the 'best looking' ones :) dont have to filter through all the poor themes out there
[02:33] <texla> 12.04 After updating using update manager I get manager closed unexpectly ??
[02:34] <dr_willis> try from the terminal - see  if 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' give any clearer messages
[02:35] <Guest99959> great
[02:38] <texla> dr_willis, both update and upgrade ran normally
[02:40] <dr_willis> of course now - update manager has nothing to do. ;) so its going tobe hard to see if it crashes now
[02:42] <mote> hi, I'm going to fresh install a laptop by april 19, which version am I going to use? 13.04beta or 12.04? I can't wait till 13.04 release since I need to have a new development machine by that date.
[02:43] <she_dyed> try it out live, see if wireless works,etc
[02:44] <she_dyed> mote  just to make sure all the pieces work
[02:44] <mote> I still plan to use 13.04, im just worried I may have 2 versions of packages install when I upgraded to 13.04
[02:45] <she_dyed> well some people already have the work-in-progress 13.04, just keep updating
[02:46] <she_dyed> so that when it does come out, you have it up and running
[02:46] <she_dyed> k, shower time, cya
[02:46] <mote> if there's no date involve, I would patiently wait till the release. :(
[02:46] <mote> thanks she_dyed !
[02:47] <she_dyed> you're welcome, there's a chatroom for those early adopters
[02:47] <she_dyed> !raring > mote
[02:48] <nevyn> mote: you missed 12.10 as an option ;)
[02:50] <mote> nevyn, it would be just the same with 12.04 since I'm planning to use 13.04 when it will be released. the thing is april 19, 13.04 is not released yet.
[02:51] <Barrylocke> just how involved is the upgrade process from 12.10 to 13.xx?
[02:51] <Barrylocke> ie for me as a user?
[02:53] <b33r> Hi is 13.04 release candidate available for update now?
[02:55] <guestt> hi,   can anyone tell me how to save the audio track from a vidio file ?
[02:56] <zykotick9> guestt: i'm a fan of "mplayer -vo null -ao pcm foo.video" which will create a WAV dump of the video.
[02:57] <guestt> zykotick9  then redirrect the output to a file ?
[02:58] <zykotick9> guestt: it does that automatically
[02:58] <guestt> or is null the filename
[02:58] <guestt> ok
[02:58] <zykotick9> guestt: "-vo null" means, don't bother with video output
[03:04] <scjr> Hey I'm having some linux-general-pae depependancy problems (stemming from not having enough space to configure a new kernel I think) anyone know any easy fixes? - http://pastebin.com/1mdfP10j
[03:04] <KxTwo> Anyone good with Big O
[03:05] <guestt> zykotick9  looks like the output will be bigger than the input     is that normal?
[03:06] <zykotick9> guestt: possibly, WAV is uncompressed audio.  after it's finished you can encode it to something else.
[03:07] <guestt> k thanks.   very helpful.  :)
[03:10] <ai9371> can someone help me with installed flash player tar.gz
[03:10] <ai9371> where do i copy the usr folder to>
[03:13] <AcidRain> whats that software called that handles cron jobs?
[03:13] <AcidRain> i had in on my ubuntu 11 system
[03:13] <AcidRain> something like... system timed project
[03:13] <AcidRain> hell idk
[03:14] <DJHenjin> AcidRain: Cron Jobs are handled by Cron on a linux server
[03:14] <AcidRain> scheduled tasks. thats it!
[03:14] <AcidRain> DJHenjin, ya but this lil gui makes life easy
[03:14] <DJHenjin> lol, i dont use a GUI on my server at all
[03:15] <mladoux> dcron, fcron, vixie-cron, really depends on what you have installed.
[03:17] <she_dyed>  acidrain may  be onto something here
[03:18] <AcidRain> lol.
[03:20] <AcidRain> /usr/local/bin/php /var/www/CronSong.php >/dev/null 2>&1 is this not proper?
[03:20] <quem> any good PPAs out there?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> quem, yes
[03:26] <AcidRain> /usr/bin/php this is right. still wont execute php script
[03:27] <kiyoura> is both php and php-cli installed?
[03:27] <qubit01> +1 kiyoura
[03:28] <she_dyed> AcidRain: the >dev/null sends output to oblivion
[03:29] <she_dyed> to neverneverland
[03:29] <AcidRain> ya nvm. i found an error in coding :/
[03:29] <AcidRain> and i made this like 3 yrs ago lol
[03:29] <she_dyed> ah ok
[03:29] <she_dyed> lol
[03:33] <Liam-> where would i go to get java support, or can i get it here
[03:33] <Liam-> actually, im not generally sure if it is java or not.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !java|Liam-,
[03:33] <Liam-> i have it installed, that isn't the issue
[03:34] <AcidRain> ya appers i have fixed it
[03:34] <Liam-> i'm running a process that is getting "Killed" randomly. Java doesn't output any errors, but the system shows that it isn't running out of space.
[03:34] <Random832> Liam-: how much system memory do you have?
[03:35] <Liam-> 512mb with 1gb vswap
[03:35] <bigbadben> Hey I am getting a kernal panic when ever I try to connect to my bluetooth mouse can anyone help me?
[03:35] <Liam-> the process is using /very/ little memory
[03:36] <uoker> hello
[03:36] <cfhowlett> uoker, greetings
[03:37] <ayu_> hello everyone
[03:37] <cfhowlett> ayu_, greetings
[03:37] <ayu_> cfhowlett,  i need help
[03:38] <cfhowlett> !details|ayu_,
[03:38] <mathor> How do I encourage my computer science department to encourage open source development?
[03:38] <bazhang> !ot | mathor
[03:38] <ayu_> how to exec a pythoy script in anywhere
[03:39] <ayu_> yes i will try
[03:41] <ayu_> a python script: like this: print 'hello' I put it on my ~/ayu/Desk  ,but I want in anywhere to run it
[03:41] <AcidRain> Apr 16 22:40:01 acidrain-CM1730-CM1830 CRON[20042]: (acidrain) CMD (/usr/bin/php /var/www/CronSong.php >/dev/null 2>&1 # JOB_ID_1)
[03:41] <AcidRain> does this mean it was successful?
[03:41] <she_dyed> ayu_: google for a write up about $PATH
[03:41] <ayu_> I add it to PATH
[03:41] <she_dyed> what
[03:42] <AcidRain> how do i know if the cron job executed?
[03:42] <AcidRain> :/
[03:42] <AcidRain> i should be able to tell cause it should update a few sql tables. but its not doing this
[03:43] <gizmo> ayu_, add "#!/usr/bin/python" to the beggining of the python script
[03:43] <AcidRain> hmm.. it seems to be working now
[03:44] <Shadow__X> AcidRain: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log
[03:44] <ayu_> yeah,I add it , but it does not work
[03:44] <Shadow__X> look at those logs
[03:44] <Shadow__X> AcidRain: look at /var/log/syslog or use grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[03:44] <AcidRain> Shadow__X, are you the same Shadow__X that created sbx mod for jk?
[03:45] <Shadow__X> AcidRain: no as i do not know what sbx is or jk is
[03:45] <ayu_> any thanks, i search goole
[03:45] <AcidRain> oh, nvm then. thx for the help
[03:45] <AcidRain> :)
[03:45] <she_dyed> did you chmod the program ayu_
[03:45] <ayu_> yeah
[03:45] <ayu_> 777
[03:45] <she_dyed> now the dir its in
[03:45] <Shadow__X> she_dyed: should it be chmod +x ?
[03:46] <she_dyed> even better
[03:46] <she_dyed> 777 is too much power
[03:46] <AcidRain> +x is for execution
[03:46] <ayu_> chmod +x name.py
[03:46] <Rallias> Is it possible to make ffmpeg splice together two video sources side by side?
[03:47] <she_dyed> and the dir has to be
[03:47] <Shadow__X> Rallias: side by side?
[03:47] <Shadow__X> or play right after another
[03:47] <cfhowlett> Rallias, as in dual display?
[03:47] <Rallias> Shadow__X, No, like screen on left, webcam on right
[03:48] <she_dyed> and combine on 1 clip Rallias ?
[03:48] <Rallias> yeah
[03:48] <she_dyed> i'd use recordmydesktop
[03:49] <she_dyed> once i got both running
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Rallias, never seen that in ffmpeg, but I suspect it's possible.  perhaps ask in #ubuntustudio?  also note that ffmpeg is to be dropped in future.  avconv is the suggested replacement
[03:49] <binary_glitch> Rallias, pragmatically or on a one-time basis
[03:49] <[Relic]> I want to wipe/zero out a whole partition of a drive does dd work for that or is there something better?
[03:49] <Rallias> binary_glitch, One time basis, it's for a school project.
[03:49] <binary_glitch> "i'd use recordmydesktop" she_dyed
[03:49] <Rallias> [Relic], dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1
[03:49] <Random832> no
[03:50] <Shadow__X> [Relic]: you could do what Rallias suggested. It depends on how many wipes/passes you want to do
[03:50] <Random832> just cp /dev/zero /dev/sd(whatever drive)
[03:50] <Rallias> Random832, cp doesn't work on block devices, just files.
[03:50] <Random832> dd is unnecessary, and it's slower unless you specify a block size
[03:50] <Random832> Rallias: untrue.
[03:50] <Rallias> You sure?
[03:50] <Random832> yes.
[03:50] <Random832> I actually know the historical reason that dd is so popular for this among linux users
[03:51] <Rallias> hm... I've always heard otherwise.
[03:51] <Random832> there was a bug in an early version of the kernel that caused cp to misdetect some files as sparse files, and so copying _to_ a device would corrupt any zero block
[03:51] <Random832> from the disk image file
[03:51] <binary_glitch> @Random832, I'm game what's the 'historical' reason??
[03:51] <Random832> since then, it just got in everyone's ideas of how things are done
[03:51] <Random832> binary_glitch: ^
[03:52] <Random832> very early version of the kernel reported file sizes wrong, so cp thought they were sparse files, and _cp_ had a bug when copying a sparse file (or a file it believed it was sparse) to a device
[03:53] <[Relic]> I just wasn't sure if it would do partition rather than the whole drive since all I saw was old small HD stuff so far  :)
[03:53] <Random832> so people used dd as a workaround for writing disk images to disks, and then people kept doing it without remembering why it was done
[03:53] <Rallias> hmm... I was always taught that DD was for block devices and CP was for files.
[03:53] <Shadow__X> there is drakes boot and nuke DBAN that makes it easier and will write random data
[03:54] <Random832> Rallias: it's one of those things everyone does and no-one knows why
[03:54] <Shadow__X> [Relic]: ^
[03:54] <Random832> but dd is actually slower in the default case unless you specify the block size
[03:54] <Random832> since the default is 512 bytes, and cp will use 4k or 32k as appropriate to the destination filesystem
[03:54] <Random832> (i think to devices it defaults to 4k)
[03:55] <Random832> i haven't timed it, dd might be faster if you do like bs=1M, but no-one does
[03:55] <binary_glitch> "there is drakes boot and nuke DBAN that makes it easier and will write random data" Shadow_X ... I also highly recomend this... good for trashing all evidence of things too
[03:56] <bigbadben> anyone here have experience with kernel panics?
[03:56] <binary_glitch> though I wouldn't go as far as to say that there isn't some forensics lab out there somewhere that...
[03:56] <Rallias> bigbadben, For really stupid causes yes... why, what's your trouble my friend?
[03:57] <binary_glitch> kernel panic... I cause them on purpose ... for the fun of it... lol
[03:57] <binary_glitch> but I usually don't bother fixing it..
[03:57] <Rallias> heh.
[03:57] <binary_glitch> just when I wanna change distros...
[03:57] <Rallias> Usually when I cause KP's it's because there's no /proc in the root filesystem.
[03:58] <bigbadben> Rallias, when ever I try to connect my bluetooth mouse I get a kernel panic
[03:58] <Rallias> bigbadben, Are you fully up to date?
[03:58] <bigbadben> yep
[03:58] <Rallias> Did you google your mouse and bluetooth adaptor in conjunction with the term kernel panic?
[03:59] <bigbadben> i am using a cheap bluetooth dongle if that matters
[03:59] <niftylettuce> I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 and having issues with bluetooth, the device connects successfully, but does not show in sound manager
[03:59] <Rallias> I'm going to step out because I have no idea.
[03:59] <niftylettuce> bigbadben: i have a similar issue with a logitech headset
[03:59] <niftylettuce> bigbadben: if you unplug it, it kernel panics haha
[03:59] <Rallias> bigbadben, Is it kernel panic or is it soft panic?
[04:00] <Rallias> Soft panic you can hit ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 and recover
[04:00] <Rallias> (I don't know the proper term)
[04:00] <bigbadben> kernel for sure alt f does not work
[04:01] <binary_glitch> drivers and moduals / deamons
[04:01] <Rallias> I guess look for a bug report, if there isn't one file one.
[04:01] <bigbadben> I can make it happen as I please so there should be a way to log it see what is going on?
[04:01] <Rallias> Check /var/log/*
[04:01] <Rallias> I think dmesg works, altho that MIGHT be wiped at boot.
[04:02] <bigbadben> If I can see what the logs say just before it happens I could probably find a solution
[04:02] <Rallias> Well, all the logs are in /var/log
[04:02] <binary_glitch> *human readable
[04:02] <Rallias> I'm thinking dmesg will probably be your best bet, it might be something else in ubuntu.
[04:03] <Jagst3r15> I am trying to check for the existence of bkup directory and if not then create it
[04:03] <Jagst3r15> im trying to use command line for this so not sure
[04:03] <Rallias> binary_glitch, I'm not sure about you, but [01/31/2013 11:59:34] Kernel Panic is fairly readable to me.
[04:03] <Rallias> Jagst3r15, if [ -f /path/to/directory ]
[04:04] <Rallias> that's in bash.
[04:04] <Jagst3r15> okie
[04:04] <Jagst3r15> thanks
[04:04] <binary_glitch> sounds like a typical lack of hardware support...
[04:04] <Rallias> Anyhow, I've done my civic duty, night y'all.
[04:04] <binary_glitch> I was saying there are other places that logs are kept, but they are not human readable...
[04:05] <Rallias> binary_glitch, with a bit of perl, anything's human readable.
[04:05] <Rallias> It's just that you have to smash your face in the keyboard to get the right perl.
[04:06] <bigbadben> binary_glitch, got any ideas?
[04:07] <binary_glitch> they are for your computer to read, ie the computer might say dear self, last time I shutdown, proper procedure was not followed, and I am concerned... so reminder to self, check my file systems next time I boot.
[04:09] <_cb>  #ubuntu
[04:09] <StevenX> Hi everyone. I am using a lubuntu livecd. I have installed lubuntu but I get a flickering screen when I try to boot into it.
[04:09] <StevenX> This is what I am getting.
[04:09] <binary_glitch> Rallias, I'd use c++ but technically anything is human readable with just the brain, the term human readable just means that basically anyone could decipher it if they applied themselves.
[04:09] <StevenX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714585A/
[04:10] <StevenX> Can someone please help me.
[04:10] <Shadow__X> paste isnt coming up here
[04:10] <Liam-> this process bug is killing me
[04:10] <Liam-> i have no clue what it'd be
[04:10] <StevenX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714585
[04:10] <Liam-> does java store any kind of extensive logs?
[04:10] <Liam-> i looked into /var/log
[04:10] <Liam-> doesn't show much
[04:11] <StevenX> sorry Shadow__X, I had an A in there for some reaosn
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> StevenX, Check that paste is correct nothing there.
[04:11] <StevenX> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714585/
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> thanks
[04:11] <binary_glitch> the 'A' lol
[04:12] <StevenX> binary_glitch, lol
[04:12] <StevenX> now help me ;)
[04:13] <binary_glitch> reading your log
[04:14] <StevenX> binary_glitch, thank you!
[04:15] <binary_glitch> for shits and giggles wanna list info like what display and display card your using, os version etc
[04:15] <binary_glitch> Ubuntu 12.10, quantal, Ubuntu, x86_64
[04:15] <StevenX> OK, let's see if I can get all that info:
[04:15] <binary_glitch> got that...
[04:15] <StevenX> binary_glitch, Lubuntu x64
[04:15] <StevenX> I'll look up my display card
[04:17] <Shadow__X> is there a way to force acpi_cpufreq to load for an amd 8320?
[04:17] <StevenX> binary_glitch, this is my computer. The spec page doesn't show the display card: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP-QX411-W02UB
[04:17] <Shadow__X> none of my cpu freqs are loading
[04:17] <binary_glitch> looks like you installed on your 640GB SAMSUNG hard dirve
[04:18] <StevenX> binary_glitch, yes; at least that was my intent.
[04:18] <binary_glitch> it's a laptop...
[04:18] <StevenX> it is.
[04:18] <Shadow__X> seems like intel hd 3000 graphics
[04:18] <Shadow__X> yup hd 3000
[04:19] <binary_glitch> oh about the display... you probably, never mind you figured it out
[04:20] <binary_glitch> yeah if your able to boot but have issues with your screen filckering it sounds like a graphic config issue...
[04:20] <binary_glitch> maybe x?? but probably a dirver...
[04:20] <StevenX> binary_glitch, I'm able to boot into the livecd, so I know the system is compatible. But when I try to boot from the HD, the computer just flickers.
[04:21] <StevenX> binary_glitch, how would I go about fixing that?
[04:21] <_cb> Last night I sent Spam. I think it is may machine or evolution and not my account.  What can I check for?
[04:21] <DJHenjin> Im having issues with Ubuntu 12.04 server crashing without warning or explanation.
[04:21] <DJHenjin> could someone help me track down the issue?
[04:21] <binary_glitch> are you talking to us on it now?
[04:21] <DJHenjin> binary_glitch: Talking to me?
[04:21] <StevenX> binary_glitch, yea, I'm on the livecd.
[04:22] <binary_glitch> or a different machine??
[04:22] <_cb> DJenjin have you ruled the machine out?
[04:22] <binary_glitch>  can you come back as same username on a different machine?
[04:22] <DJHenjin> _cb: It is a server i rent from a company across the country, I cannot troubleshoot hardware, but i am assured it is all fine
[04:22] <StevenX> binary_glitch, I don't have a diff. machine available.
[04:22] <Shadow__X> _cb: you could check processes on your machine and check to see if another ip other than yours has sent mail from your email server
[04:22] <StevenX> :-(
[04:23] <_cb> Shadow__X this is on my desktop. I think Evolution is compromised.
[04:23] <DJHenjin> _cb: Worse yet, It is my production machine. It ran fine for 2 months, Then all of a sudden a couple days ago it crashed. rebooted and got everything running again. then it crashed again today
[04:24] <_cb> DJHenjin VM or Phisycal server?
[04:24] <DJHenjin> _cb: Physical dedicated server.
[04:24] <jenenliu> hi guys, there is two video card in my Dell laptop, and I don't know how to install the video driver, can someone help me? thanks
[04:25] <binary_glitch> okay then... you will have to leave us and come back posibly serveral times for me to walk you through what I'd do to truble shoot... also you will have to be able to retain several steps to do during some boot up procidures... unless someone else has a better idea and wants to sep in
[04:25] <_cb> DJHenjin do you do maint or do you have that contracted out?
[04:25] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: nvidia and intel?
[04:25] <DJHenjin> _cb: I personally do software maint.
[04:25] <_cb> How about updates?
[04:25] <jenenliu> no, amd and intel
[04:25] <_cb> DJHenjin How about updates?
[04:25] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: link to laptop?
[04:25] <StevenX> binary_glitch,
[04:26] <StevenX> ok
[04:26] <DJHenjin> _cb: I log in daily to do apt-get upgrade and apt-get updates.
[04:26] <StevenX> what's the first step?
[04:26] <_cb> DJHenjin have you checked disk space on all your partitions?
[04:26] <jenenliu> Shadow__X: I sorry, I am new to linux, what do you mean?
[04:26] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: can you provide a link to the laptop you own
[04:26] <evilytwisted> hi, could someone help me get redshift working where i dont need to sudo it to get it running?
[04:26] <DJHenjin>    / has more than 50% of 20 GB available, /home has only 5 GB used of 2 TB
[04:27] <binary_glitch> okay when you boot try firs pressing tab if it is a single boot machine to bring up the boot options menu (if it doesn't show up automatically for something like 20 ~ 30 sec)
[04:27] <binary_glitch> and selcet recovery mode
[04:27] <_cb> DJHenjin how about other partitions opt? var? ...
[04:27] <StevenX> binary_glitch, it doesn't show up automatically, so I will have to use tab.
[04:27] <StevenX> OK.
[04:28] <binary_glitch> when it actaly starts to boot if it has a sudo progress bar
[04:28] <jenenliu> Shadow__X: what do you need to know, my driver is x.org driver, and blow is my 'lspci | grep VGA' result
[04:28] <DJHenjin> _cb: is there a way i can run the fdisk -l command and have it paste the output to a pastebin site?
[04:28] <jenenliu> Shadow__X:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[04:28] <jenenliu> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[04:28] <Shadow__X> jenenliu: do not paste a bunch of text in the channel.  Does your machine crash before fully booting or does it run for a while and then crash?
[04:29] <jenenliu> x86, Dell Inspiron-N4050
[04:30] <DJHenjin> _cb: ran for 2 months, then crashed the first time, then ran for about 2 days and crashed again
[04:30] <StevenX> binary_glitch, OK, so far I know what to do, then
[04:30] <jenenliu> Shadow__X: x86
[04:30] <binary_glitch> if you get that far and it freeses on a message for say 2 min press F7 if it starts flickering again come back and let me know what it last said
[04:30] <StevenX> binary_glitch, ok, thanks, I will try that.
[04:32] <DJHenjin> _cb: I am currently on irssi connected through SSH, in a screen session on the machine in question
[04:33] <_cb> DJHenjin logs don't tell you anything?
[04:33] <DJHenjin> _cb: I am relatively new to troubleshooting ubuntu 12.04, I havent found anything in the logs that stood out to me
[04:34] <she_dyed>  or you may have ignored something we could use
[04:34] <_cb> DJHenjin Assume machine is running now
[04:35] <DJHenjin> _cb:  Yes, It is running
[04:35] <evilytwisted> Could someone help me get redshift working without needing sudo to run it
[04:35] <_cb> DJHenjin what apps are you running on it?
[04:35] <dumnut> hi, i want to change my chatroom name such as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i want to cahgne ~dumnut to something else, how do i do that?
[04:36] <Shadow__X> dumnut: /nick newnick
[04:36] <DJHenjin> Apache2, PHP5, MySQL, Zabbix, Java for Minecraft servers, Bind9, Postfix, and all related dep's
[04:36] <binary_glitch> hey all, I'm gonna be afk smoking a cigarette... if StevenX re-joins looking for me... fwd the msg that I'm akf, and will return to help him/her soon. (by name I assume him)
[04:37] <DJHenjin> Alright binary_glitch
[04:37] <dumnut> Shadow__X: yes i know that. but when we log in to a chatroom, the label<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i want to change that label ~dumnut to something else, how do i do that?
[04:37] <Liam-> dumnut: are you saying your ident? that is the username!~ident@(ip/hostname) part
[04:37] <dumnut> Liam-: yes i want to change the ident
[04:37] <Liam-> what client are you using?
[04:37] <dumnut> knoversation
[04:38] <Liam-> i've never used it, but i bet if you check the settings, there will be a username (or ident) setting you can change
[04:38] <Liam-> often times clients will either include it, or use the default system username
[04:39] <akuarius> who teach me rob a bank with back track please?
[04:39] <dumnut> Liam-: ok, i'll check thatt. thank-you for your tip
[04:39] <DJHenjin> akuarius: are you kidding? LOL
[04:39] <akuarius> :) nor ehehe
[04:39] <DJHenjin> akuarius: This is definitely not the place to ask such a question
[04:40] <akuarius> ok sorry :)
[04:40] <akuarius> thats ok im here to learn some ubuntu things :)
[04:40] <_cb> Akuarius try www.fbi.com
[04:40] <akuarius> ahaha
[04:40] <she_dyed> evilytwisted: maybe the command ought to be in /usr/local/bin...
[04:41] <evilytwisted> IM sorry she_dyed ? i dont understand
[04:41] <Liam-> dumnut: also, you'll have to reconnect from irc to refresh that username, fyi.
[04:41] <akuarius> i installed office 2010 on ubuntu but i cant activate any tips?
[04:42] <dumnut> Liam-: ok, thank-you again
[04:42] <she_dyed> wait is that right, thought he wanted to change it
[04:42] <binary_glitch> okay I'm back
[04:43] <Liam-> dumnut: no problem.
[04:43] <DJHenjin> WB binary_glitch he wasn here yet
[04:43] <binary_glitch> kk ths
[04:43] <DJHenjin> NP
[04:44] <FrankieJ> hey, anyone here know about the gedit glitch where it opens a new document tab everytime you open a text file with gedit in unity?
[04:44] <evilytwisted> Could someone help me get redshift to work without needing sudo to run it
[04:45] <binary_glitch> FrankieJ no, sorry I use fxce... never like unity form the first feel, never really checked it out...
[04:46] <DJHenjin> _cb left, fun...
[04:46] <Liam-> so, any ideas why a java process would just randomly stop without outputting any errors? (not a memory issue, that i know of)
[04:47] <FrankieJ> binary_glitch, ok...if not unity, but the gedit glitch still exists?
[04:48] <binary_glitch> oh, also I use different *ware for that too... geany... as I like it for c++ and php
[04:49] <FrankieJ> geany?
[04:49] <Liam-> Geany is nice
[04:49] <binary_glitch> an other text editor like gedit
[04:49] <Eeeeeeeeeeetan>  #mc_ghast
[04:49] <FrankieJ> if i install geany would it overrite gedit
[04:50] <she_dyed> evilytwisted: maybe more
[04:50] <evilytwisted> binary_glitch:  if i may bother you for a few.. i would appreciate it... would you by chance know how to get redshift to work without needing sudo to run it.. Or gtk-redhshift for that matter
[04:50] <binary_glitch> I like it better for the syntax support
[04:50] <she_dyed> !details > evilytwisted
[04:50] <binary_glitch> well, I don't think it would overwirte it, more at you'd have two text editors
[04:52] <Shadow__X> I am trying to enable cpufreq on my machine but i keep getting this problem http://pastebin.com/7nvmm0Wi the cpu is a amd fx 8320 the os is ubuntu 12.04.2
[04:52] <binary_glitch> never used redhshift, but I know how to make an app run as root by default (usually without having to enter the root pass) in a *buntu enviro
[04:52] <binary_glitch> and it's farily simple
[04:54] <evilytwisted> alright ty
[04:54] <binary_glitch> also I can give you a root desktop without a root account (on a one time basis, though you can do it over and over) ... ... ... but I'd advise against it
[04:54] <FrankieJ> geany doesnt work with sudo? how else can i edit with full permission?
[04:54] <binary_glitch> if either of those are helpfull let me know and I'll explain them
[04:55] <evilytwisted> binary_glitch:  ty for a quick response.. But now im seem to having problems with geoclue itself.. not just redshift..
[04:55] <an0n> How to install xmonad on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:56] <binary_glitch> Frankie, CLI (terminal) sudo -i
[04:56] <binary_glitch> then cd to your document
[04:56] <binary_glitch> and use geany form there
[04:56] <FrankieJ> binary_glitch, thx
[04:57] <binary_glitch> or gtk-sudo
[04:57] <Liam-> can't you just sudo geany?
[04:57] <vladimir> hi
[04:57] <Liam-> works for me..
[04:57] <vladimir> anybody help me?
[04:57] <FrankieJ> yea it works Liam-...i fail
[04:57] <Shadow__X> an0n: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+xmonad&l=1
[04:58] <Soggy> Hello Everyone!
[04:58] <binary_glitch> or use sudo -i then exo-open --launch FileManager
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> vladimir, For help you post the problem.
[04:58] <binary_glitch> that will give you a root filemanager
[04:59] <binary_glitch> any app open by clicking in that will be ran as root
[04:59] <Soggy> Can someone help me with searching for this solution on the forums because I'm having difficulties.. I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 12.10 and it's erroring around 65%-75%
[04:59] <vladimir> I can not connect to the channel #ubuntu-ru
[04:59] <an0n> Shadow__X: thanks
[05:00] <binary_glitch> so you can righ-click and choose the app you want, if it doesn't work you can try an other...
[05:00] <she_dyed> vladimir: why not
[05:00] <Soggy> vladimir is that a channel for support?
[05:00] <vladimir>  Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[05:00] <DJHenjin> vladimir: you need to /mg nickserv register
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> vladimir, I can, do you have to be registered maybe?
[05:00] <vladimir> im newbies
[05:01] <DJHenjin> sorry /msg nickserv register
[05:01] <Shadow__X> Soggy: make sure the image passes the checksum
[05:01] <binary_glitch> vladimir ...  I was just going to tell him it's * /msg not /mg lol
[05:02] <vladimir> speack russian???
[05:02] <yeahuyen> does anyone know how i can set geany as the default text editor in ubuntu?
[05:02] <Soggy> What happens if it doesn't pass the checksum?
[05:02] <binary_glitch> not I, vladimir
[05:02] <vladimir> mmmmm...
[05:03] <Shadow__X> Soggy: then the download is bad and you need to redownload
[05:03] <binary_glitch> geany is my prefered app for that ... trying to remember...
[05:03] <dodo3773> yeahuyen: In your file manager don't you have an "open with" in your right click context menu or something similar?
[05:03] <vladimir> describe the order that I need to do
[05:03] <Soggy> ah, well what I'm trying to accomplish is a webserver for use to develop websites with
[05:03] <binary_glitch> yes
[05:04] <Soggy> So was giving ubuntu a try
[05:04] <dodo3773> yeahuyen: A couple other ways: Uninstall all the other text editors or use xdg-mime or similar.
[05:04] <binary_glitch> yeahuyen, right click a txt file or .cpp or .php or whatever you want to make it the default app for
[05:04] <vladimir> i have KVirc
[05:04] <vladimir> connect with freenode
[05:05] <alakoo> is there a way to introduce gnome system tools onto my left panel (in unity), I downloaded the package through synaptic but can't find it now
[05:05] <she_dyed> vladimir: but you still need to register
[05:05] <binary_glitch> then slect open with other application...
[05:05] <Shadow__X> Soggy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[05:05] <Soggy> guess it's time to go back to google, thanks a bunch though Shadow__X !
[05:05] <dr_willis> alakoo:  find an app in 'dash' and pin it to the panel
[05:05] <vladimir> on freenode?
[05:05] <Soggy> oh right on
[05:05] <Shadow__X> Soggy: i am not saying that is definitely your problem but something to check into
[05:06] <binary_glitch> then make sure the check box at the bottom of the resulting window for make this the default app is checked... done
[05:06] <she_dyed> vladimir: yes, so you can identify and goto these channels
[05:06] <vladimir> how i do it?
[05:06] <alakoo> dr_willis: yeah but dash can't find it
[05:06] <dr_willis> !identify
[05:06] <dr_willis> alakoo:  what app?
[05:06] <she_dyed> thank god automatic is spelled correctly
[05:07] <Shadow__X> Soggy: if you downloaded the iso through bittorrent then it handles the checksum for you. if you download through firefox you can install the addon downthemall and after you start the download right click the download and click options there you can enter the checksum. after the download is done it will check for you
[05:07] <Soggy> Shadow__X: ah yes well I will give this a shot and continue to try and try till I get it right
[05:07] <alakoo> dr_willis: gnome system tool, you know, the pre-unity place for settings etc
[05:07] <Soggy> Oh I downloaded off chrome
[05:07] <alakoo> I'd like to *involve* it in unity, not return to old gnome
[05:07] <binary_glitch> dodo3773, did you know about my solution to yeahuyen's quesion?
[05:07] <Shadow__X> Soggy: before you go any further just check the checksum of your iso then go from there so you can narrow things down. you can use other apps to compare the checksum
[05:07] <binary_glitch> kk never mind
[05:07] <binary_glitch> lol
[05:08] <dr_willis> alakoo:  not really.  :) with the switch to gnome3 im suprused it still in the repos. check the package files to see what binarys it includes. and if it has a .desktop file
[05:08] <Soggy> sweet thank you!
[05:09] <dr_willis> !info galternatives
[05:09] <passerine> binary_glitch, i was going to mention select-editor but i'm not really sure if it's useful.
[05:09] <dr_willis> the alternatives system - lets you define default apps also. ;)
[05:10] <t3hb055nueb> using the software center, I cannot purchase steam....
[05:10] <dr_willis> t3hb055nueb:  i just go to the steam site and download the .deb
[05:10] <t3hb055nueb> link?
[05:10] <dr_willis> google.com perhaps?  im on my phone
[05:10] <passerine> dr_willis, is that new?
[05:11] <dr_willis> passerine:  its the same package/software  as in the software center.
[05:11] <vladimir> Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited.
[05:11] <dr_willis> steam is a rather.. odd program on ubuntu in how it works.
[05:11] <vladimir> what next?
[05:12] <dr_willis> vladimir:  you should really be asking for Identification help in #freenode
[05:12] <t3hb055nueb> are there any steam games that are free for a lower end pc?
[05:12] <dr_willis> vladimir:  identify to nickserv when you connect.. basically
[05:12] <binary_glitch> passerine, if your here thinking of ways you can help ppl, than you are doing your part... the way I see it, we are eachother's tech support... if we don't share what we know than were all screwed at some point.
[05:13] <shmoon> i am just trying to understand something basic about filesystem type like ext, ntfs, fat. is it something hardware specific or something decided by operating system. sorry fi the question si vague.
[05:13] <Shadow__X> shmoon: operating system and what it supports
[05:13] <dr_willis> the hard drive dosent care what filesystem its partioned/formated to. ;)
[05:13] <Shadow__X> shmoon: you can have ext3 ext4 ntfs  partions on the same drive but if you boot into windows you will only see ntfs unless you install driver
[05:13] <shmoon> Shadow__X: so the operating system decides what file system type to use to store data in the hard disk ?
[05:13] <Shadow__X> s
[05:14] <dr_willis> shmoon:  differnt OS's support differnt filesystems - correct
[05:14] <shmoon> ok makes sense, thanks :)
[05:14] <dr_willis> if theres an OS out that supports more FS's then linux.. im not sure whata it would be.. ;)
[05:14] <shmoon> can i install windows and ubuntu into same parittion ?
[05:15] <Shadow__X> anyone know how to fix cpufreq? http://pastebin.com/7nvmm0Wi
[05:15] <dr_willis> its amazeing how many fs's linux supports..
[05:15] <binary_glitch> shamoon, well this may not be the most approperate channel for that, un-like others, I won't shun you for asking here, rather I'd advise your find a better channel... but I'll be happy to explain what I know about the subject
[05:15] <dr_willis> shmoon:  same partition? not really. thats what partions are for.. to seperate things out
[05:15] <shmoon> ah ok, thanks dr_willis
[05:15] <Shadow__X> shmoon: afaik there is a package that will let you do that but if you want to learn about linux you can use livecds to get you started
[05:16] <Shadow__X> shmoon: the whole operating system will run from a cd
[05:16] <dr_willis> shmoon:  typical dual boot install setup -- a windows partion,  a linux partion for /  and a partion for linux swap.
[05:16] <binary_glitch> so to expound on what has already been sayed about it ... most OS's support a range of file systems
[05:16] <dr_willis> shmoon:  you can play with linux in virtualbox and partion virtual drives  :) if you want to experiment..
[05:16] <TryX> Hey sorry I have a question about xfire. How can i set it that I can join certain channels automatically instead of typing /join all the time?
[05:17] <dr_willis> TryX:  most chat clients have on connect settings to handkle that
[05:17] <dr_willis> never heard of xfire
[05:17] <dr_willis> !info xfire
[05:17] <binary_glitch> some files systems have different fetures that may make them more desireable than others for a given task...
[05:17] <TryX> I cant seem to find that option dr_willis
[05:18] <dfcnvt> Hi
[05:18] <Shadow__X> i am trying to get cpu freq working to save on power and energy usage if that helps
[05:18] <TryX> ah nm found it!
[05:18] <TryX> Hey
[05:19] <creftos> hey so I'm having issues seeing local java applets in my web browsers. It says that my security settings don't allow me to see them. How do I fix this?
[05:19] <Shadow__X> creftos: go to the security settings in your browser
[05:19] <binary_glitch> you can decide between ext, ext2, ext3, ext4, v-fat, fat16, fat32, ntfs, etc based on the feature-set and limitations of each...
[05:19] <dfcnvt> Any of you know which webcam program that comes with frameless window on the desktop? It's for recording my desktop, I want my webcame to be frameless.
[05:19] <creftos> Shadow_X: I have, there's nothing about java in there.
[05:20] <Shadow__X> creftos: which browser
[05:20] <creftos> Shadow_X: firefox
[05:20] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  i belive with compiz settings in the ccsm tool you can set specific windows to be frameless.  or other tweaks. (transparencey and so forth)
[05:21] <dfcnvt> I'll check it out.
[05:21] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  check the windows rules plugin. 9 (i think thats the name)
[05:21] <Shadow__X> creftos:
[05:21] <Shadow__X> creftos: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-java-plugin-to-view-interactive-content
[05:21] <Shadow__X> creftos: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/client-security.html
[05:21] <binary_glitch> I'd use 'RecordMyDesktop' lol
[05:21] <binary_glitch> it's a default app in most *buntus that I've tried
[05:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:22] <dfcnvt> dr_willis: I'm on Window Rules... Which one will be frameless?
[05:23] <binary_glitch> the app it's slef isn't framless, but it doen's record it's own frame
[05:23] <binary_glitch> so the out come is framless
[05:23] <binary_glitch> * frameless
[05:23] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  no idea.  thats where i do many other tweaks in the past. if it exists i would think its in there.
[05:23] <dr_willis> i seem to recall seeing it in some plugin.
[05:24] <dfcnvt> binary_glitch: I am using my recordMyDesktop for my project.
[05:24] <dr_willis> ive also seen other window managers that have a similer feature.   sawfish lets you selecct differnt themes/fframes for differnt windows. but thats a bit overkill i imagine
[05:25] <dr_willis> bbl.
[05:25] <creftos> Shadow_X: Thanks, but I'm still having trouble. I can see java applets that aren't stored locally, but I'm trying to see local ones.
[05:25] <shmoon> if i move some files from a ubuntu (ext3) to windows (ntfs) - are there some bad implications?
[05:25] <Shadow__X> creftos: not sure
[05:25] <t3hb055nueb> Is it my pc or is www.google loading s*low?
[05:25] <dfcnvt> I think I found some on youtube.
[05:25] <dfcnvt> borderless
[05:25] <dfcnvt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Pv94V9nhY
[05:25] <dfcnvt> .title
[05:25] <FloodBot1> dfcnvt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <Capprentice> If  I install multiple backend for akonadi it it going to work any faster on Ubuntu 12.04 ?? Or it start conflicting with each other (mysql vs postgresql) ?
[05:25] <creftos> Shadow_X: There's also no java control  panel under the security tab of my preferences
[05:26] <creftos> Shadow_X: ok, thanks anyway
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> shmoon, What kind of files?
[05:29] <Capprentice> Anyone using KDE apps on Ubuntu ? Have installed Nepomukserver and akonadi console ?
[05:29] <shmoon> simple files, i wonder if there can be bad implications or not, like some metadata getting lost?
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> shmoon, As a dual booter I have a share partition, for media and documents and that is it, no operating system type files.
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> shmoon, The share is a NTFS
[05:31] <t3hb055nueb> is www.gmail.com down?
[05:32] <aeon-ltd> t3hb055nueb: no
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> t3hb055nueb, nope it shows here.
[05:32] <dfcnvt> I got it, window decoration, 'Grab' the webcam program then invert it. It will becomes borderless.
[05:32] <dfcnvt> Thanks dr_willis
[05:32] <Capprentice> t3hb055nueb, install klinkstatus and check it urself ;)
[05:35] <Capprentice> What is video/x-surface decoder?
[05:35] <t3hb055nueb> strange, I can connect to any webpage besides www.gmail.com... even goodle
[05:35] <t3hb055nueb> google
[05:35] <orion_> hey
[05:35] <binary_glitch> NE1 know what DE Zorin OS uses? just curious...
[05:35] <binary_glitch> hey]
[05:36] <Capprentice> t3hb055nueb, check if you have backlisted the domain within the browser. What browser you are using ?
[05:36] <orion_> trying to install ubuntu on UEFI box along side windows 8, with an SSD and a Nvidia Titan.  Having a very hard time.  What version of Ubuntu is most likely to work for me - be at this for a few days...
[05:36] <MMelanie> Hola:3
[05:36] <MMelanie> hola
[05:36] <MMelanie> hola
[05:36] <TryX> werd
[05:36] <binary_glitch> bueno
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | orion_
[05:38] <binary_glitch> MMelanie, for English press 1, para Espanol marke numoro 2
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, how do I accurately test my frame rate? I heard that you can't really test it with glxgears....
[05:40] <MMelanie> laputamadre hay alguien bo?
[05:40] <binary_glitch> Y si esta pencando... si, hablo Espanol... pero no tiengo nolegia que usa me keyboard para preducia los lettres correcto
[05:40] <MMelanie> Holuuuuuuu :3
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !es | MMelanie
[05:41] <alakoo> dr_willis: found an easier way, just installed classicmenu-indicator :)
[05:41] <Capprentice> hey speak english guys !
[05:41] <Capprentice> of go to regional channels.
[05:42] <binary_glitch> well he needs to watch his language in more than one way!
[05:43] <Capprentice> binary_glitch, do you have nepomuk server installed ?
[05:43] <binary_glitch> and ubottu was just directing us to the correct channel for Ubuntu in spanish
[05:43] <MMelanie> hello
[05:43] <binary_glitch> Hi
[05:44] <Capprentice> Where are all the ubi experts are gone ?! wtf.
[05:44] <binary_glitch> No, I have a few servers but not nepomuk
[05:44] <binary_glitch> Apache for most of my usage
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> !language | Capprentice
[05:44] <dr_willis> Capprentice:  it is almost 2 am in the usa. :) so this may  be a slow time
[05:44] <MMelanie> alguien habla español? estoy como una tonta desde el google traductor
[05:45] <MMelanie> alguien habla español? estoy como una tonta desde el google traductor
[05:45] <MMelanie> someone speaks Spanish?  Here in India , its 11.15 AM :)
[05:45] <Cuken> Has anyone setup a succesful ZFS nas off of ubuntu server?
[05:46] <t3hb055nueb> link?
[05:46] <dr_willis> setting up a file server should be  fairly easy.. not sure how zfs figures into it. ;;)
[05:46] <dr_willis> !zfs
[05:47] <binary_glitch> I don't see Capprentice's mal language... if it's an abreviation like wt* that's the offince... how can it offend, If you know what it means.... um- hello (sarcasm) and if you don't than you will not be offinded would you...
[05:48] <dr_willis> keeping the channel kid friendly..  it was really a unneeded  abbrevation.
[05:48] <t3hb055nueb> Capprentice: how?
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> binary_glitch, the channel does not accept acronyms for swear words
[05:48] <izx> How to disable mDns service in ubuntu?
[05:49] <dr_willis> !info mdns
[05:49] <dr_willis> izx:  use upstart or the sysv scripts to tell it to not run, or uninstall it perhaps?
[05:50] <[LE]> Can any one help me in settng up a simple iptable to make my ubuntu server act as internet gateway
[05:50] <shmoon> hi dr_willis moving files from ntfs (windows) to ext3 (ubuntu), i wonder if there can be bad implications or not, like some metadata getting lost?
[05:51] <keith_> ububtu12-10 AMD 64. Firefox crashes when trying to login to internet banking ANZ Australia. Any help?
[05:51] <binary_glitch> yeah I get that but offence to acronems that include curse words (depending on interpitation) is not something that has ever made since to me, and I'm a father of 4 and a simi religious man...
[05:51] <dr_willis> shmoon:  i dont know what metadata ntfs has.. ive never had an issue moveing stuff from ntfs to ext2/3/4
[05:51] <shmoon> dr_willis: what about vfat to ext3 ?
[05:52] <binary_glitch> like what about rtfm.... it's often refered to as  Read The Friendly Manual
[05:52] <shmoon> i remember few weeks ago i moved data from windows (usb drive seems like usb is vfat) to my ubuntu and ost all permissions data
[05:52] <shmoon> the data on windows was previously moved from old ubuntu version only
[05:52] <shmoon> was basically upgrading ubuntu, so taking backups
[05:53] <dr_willis> shmoon:  any permissions.ownership and so forth of the files would be lost once you moved them to ntfs. since  ntfs dosent support the features
[05:53] <shmoon> oh
[05:53] <dr_willis> you dont chown/chmod files on a ntfs/vfat.
[05:53] <shmoon> i guess its same with moving to vfat
[05:54] <binary_glitch> I can see WTF and often interpret it as Why The For-mentioned
[05:54] <shmoon> aha so whats a better way of dealing with such problems?
[05:54] <dr_willis> binary_glitch:  let it drop man.. no one really cares.. its the channel rules..
[05:54] <dr_willis> shmoon:  tar them to an tar archive..  that will keep all linux info
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> why the face?
[05:54] <binary_glitch> true
[05:55] <shmoon> ah ok dr_willis sounds great
[05:55] <shmoon> thanks
[05:56] <shmoon> dr_willis: hm maybe they're not kept without -p, --preserve-permissions ?
[05:57] <dr_willis> you would need to use the right options to tar to tell it to keep them all i belive.
[05:57] <shmoon> hehe ok
[06:02] <binary_glitch> well I think I solved SteveX's issue... he never re-joined... it's been hours... (would have been nice to hear a 'it worked thx man') lol... well I'll be in #defocus if anyone needs me...
[06:09] <SecretFire> how do I pull up the system log in gedit through terminal?
[06:13] <yitz_> gedit file
[06:13] <passerine> SecretFire, gedit /var/log/syslog
[06:13] <SecretFire> ok thanks
[06:14] <SecretFire> I am having problems with xubuntu 12.10 randomly logging me out, I pastebin'd my dmesg output. Can someone help me figure out why this is happening? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715157/
[06:18] <Tulipmillionaire> yo!
[06:18] <Tulipmillionaire> Can I donate to the Ubuntu project in bitcoins?
[06:18] <Savior> wow, there are a few people on here, good to see
[06:20]  * Savior waves
[06:20] <passerine> I don't know SecretFire, can you correlate it with anything by timestamp?  (If you have timestamps?  I don't see them.)
[06:21] <SecretFire> passerine : I don't quite understand
[06:21] <SecretFire> passerine : I have heard that it could be due to me having nvidia or x crashing
[06:22] <tiao> quit
[06:22] <passerine> ciao tiao
[06:23] <SecretFire> passerine : is there another system file I should be looking at?
[06:24] <passerine> SecretFire, maybe since it was random then knowing when it happened could help.  That's another possibility, too.
[06:25] <Test00> Hi everyone!
[06:25] <passerine> SecretFire have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:26] <SecretFire> no i will though and in apport.log
[06:26] <passerine> hi Test00
[06:27] <SecretFire> passerine : Here are some timestamps http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715180/
[06:27] <SecretFire> it was x crashing
[06:28] <SecretFire> x is a wooly mammoth on toothpicks
[06:28] <passerine> now there's an image
[06:28] <SecretFire> what can i do with it?
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> with a feather boa ;)
[06:29] <SecretFire> it all happened at 10:57...lol
[06:31] <passerine> I don't know, maybe other logs can say if anything else happens just before it?
[06:31] <SecretFire> like the x log
[06:32] <linucs> Question guys
[06:32] <euroford> hi all, how to install firefox 32bit edtion in 64bit ubuntu?
[06:32] <linucs> Why is Ubuntu/Linux so slow compared to Windows? I'm talking about the interface
[06:33] <Lartza> linucs, It should be the opposite
[06:33] <Bodsda> linucs: seriously?
[06:33] <Lartza> linucs, Or maybe lack of drivers or Compiz effetcs that make it seems slow?
[06:33] <Lartza> *, or
[06:33] <SecretFire> windows sucks
[06:33] <linucs> Lartza. It's advertised that Linux is much faster, but when it comes to GUI, hell no
[06:33] <Test00>  that may be unity
[06:33] <Korbit> My password stopped working today so I tried changing it and I'm getting an error "Authentication token manipulation error" How do I fix this?
[06:33] <linucs> I've tested it on nvidia/amd cards with open and closed drivers
[06:33] <linucs> It's slow.
[06:34] <euroford> what's the package name of 32bit firefox in 64bit ubuntu?
[06:34] <Lartza> linucs, I can relate to that Ubuntu is not probably the fastest when it comes to desktop usage but it's certanily not slower than Windows
[06:34] <Bodsda> linucs: processor will also play a part - as will what DE you use
[06:34] <Lartza> I haven't used Unity though
[06:34] <rypervenche> linucs: So go back to Windows?
[06:35] <Bodsda> euroford: check this out - it's old, butshould still work - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535867
[06:35] <linucs> rypervenche. I am on Windows, but I'd really like to use Linux. I can't since it's much slower when it comes to GUI
[06:35] <euroford> Bodsda: thanks
[06:35] <Lartza> linucs, If you want to stay in the Ubuntu game try Kubuntu or Xubuntu maybe to compare, otherwise there are lots to try from Debian to Gentoo, I myself prefer Arch and Gentoo
[06:35] <Bodsda> np
[06:35] <Lartza> linucs, Define slow?
[06:35] <Bodsda> +1 Gentoo
[06:35] <rypervenche> linucs: lol, it's only slow if you make it slow
[06:35] <linucs> laggy, choppy
[06:35] <rypervenche> +2 Gentoo
[06:35] <yitz_> Arch FTW
[06:35] <linucs> slow flashplayer performance
[06:36] <linucs> that's what I mean by slow
[06:36] <rypervenche> linucs: Adobe flash is not Linux.
[06:36] <MarkPit> linucs sounds like something is wrong, i am using ubuntu on a 5 year old laptop and it runs fine
[06:36] <Lartza> flashplayer performance is Adobe's fault
[06:36] <Lartza> linucs, Define laggy and choppy, that is pretty general still
[06:36] <linucs> MarkPit. I guss you never run Windows then
[06:36] <SecretFire> passerine : I replicated the error by running x
[06:37] <Korbit> I'm getting the error "Authentication token manipulation error
[06:37] <MarkPit> linucs i run windows more than linux
[06:37] <linucs> Lartza. When moving windows around? Minimizing? The cpu usage is crazy, and it lags
[06:37] <Lartza> linucs, I run Windows as my main Desktop but prefer Linux much over it, just gaming keeps me in Windows
[06:37] <linucs> On a quad core
[06:37] <kiwitinker1> just installed a game package with apparent success but it has no shown in menu?
[06:37] <Korbit> " when trying to change my password as root on the recovery console. The filesystem is mounted as rw. How do I fix it?
[06:37] <random_> Hi I am getting the following error while running sudo apt-get install for various packages, would be great if someone could suggest a fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715195/
[06:37] <Lartza> linucs, That definetly sounds like a driver issue, or an issue in Compiz or Unity
[06:38] <Lartza> linucs, Default desktop should be 3D accelerated so no CPU usage from Window handling
[06:38] <passerine> SecretFire, that's probably a good thing.  It's the ones that can't be replicated that are hardest to debug.
[06:38] <linucs> God no. I know how to install drivers. Like I said. OPen and Closed drivers, VSync on, SLOW. laggy
[06:38] <linucs> It's not smooth
[06:38] <linucs> I've used many DEs.
[06:38] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah I heard you, but something is definetly wrong and it should not be like that
[06:38] <kiwitinker1> nor do I know where it installed the game, how do I find it please?
[06:39] <SecretFire> passerine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715196/
[06:39] <Lartza> I only get slow performance in VirtualBox, for obvious reasons
[06:39] <Bodsda> Korbit: it sounds like the problem is that it's actually mounted ro - http://askubuntu.com/questions/91188/authentication-token-manipulation-error
[06:39] <linucs> Kde, Xfce, Gnome. Using opengl acceleration in gnome and kde, It's still not smooth
[06:39] <random_> Hi I am getting the following error while running sudo apt-get install for various packages, would be great if someone could suggest a fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715195/ Need it ASAP
[06:39] <ThatOneRoadie> Hmm
[06:39] <Bodsda> linucs: try fluxbox
[06:39] <linucs> Bodsda. I'm not really into that kind of DE
[06:39] <Korbit> Bodsda: I've verified that I can create and edit files on the drive. It's definitely mounted as rw
[06:39] <kiwitinker1> what directory would a game package be installed in?
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> GRUB Question: I get a message on boot: "Error: no such device: </dev/sda1 UUID> \n press any key to continue..."
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> and it boots fine.
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> any way to surpress that error message?
[06:40] <passerine> hmm, is that report /var/crash/_usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash readable at all?  SecretFire
[06:40] <Bodsda> Korbit: pastebin the output of  sudo fdisk -l   and   mount  and   sudo blkid   please
[06:40] <kiwitinker1> I'm a total beginner
[06:40] <ThatOneRoadie> the error shows up because the iSCSI drive it boots from hasn't mounted.
[06:41] <Lartza> linucs, I'll have to fire up my virtual machine now that you said Linux is slow ;)
[06:41] <linucs> lol
[06:41] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: remove the entry from /etc/fstab
[06:41] <kiwitinker1> taken many hours to get to this point and now I finally have it installed i cannot find it to run it anyhow
[06:41] <SecretFire> passerine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715201/
[06:41] <Lartza> linucs, I don't like Ubuntu but I use it on VirtualBox and one of my servers has Ubuntu and that's why I am here :)
[06:41] <linucs> I'm sorry to say, but it's much slower!. tested on many machines, different distros, DEs. Doesn't even compare with W7's smoothness
[06:42] <Bodsda> kiwitinker1: what game?
[06:42] <linucs> Lartza,. This is not about Ubuntu, Ubuntu would be my last choice
[06:42] <kiwitinker1> why do you call me by my account name?
[06:42] <linucs> I like to have control on what's installed on my system. Arch all the way
[06:42] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: so just yank "UUID=#####  /     ext4" from /etc/fstab?
[06:43] <SecretFire> passerine : it looks like it is having trouble loading drivers
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, I've never had problems with Arch
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, I usually use Openbox but GNOME too
[06:43] <Bodsda> kiwitinker1: because it highlights the line for you and shows everyone who I'm talking to
[06:43] <passerine> SecretFire, the lines marked with "(EE)" are errors.  If they can be resolved, it might help, maybe not.  I don't know.
[06:43] <linucs> Well, gnome lags even more than KDE to be honest
[06:43] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: yep, if that drive doesn't exist anymore, there is no point trying to mount it on boot.
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, GNOME3 yeah maybe
[06:43] <Lartza> linucs, It's the damn Shell...
[06:43] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: Correction: so just yank "UUID=#####  /     ext4  errors=remount-ro 0   1" from /etc/fstab?
[06:43] <linucs> Well, gnome2 is deprecated
[06:43] <ThatOneRoadie> but it does exist
[06:44] <Lartza> linucs, Oh wow
[06:44] <SecretFire> passerine : damn, why does this have to be so complicated?
[06:44] <kiwitinker1> but you would use linuxbaby then, that's what everyone sees is it not
[06:44] <Lartza> linucs, JIggling my Chromium window around in VirtualBox makes all the four cores to 20% in Ubuntu :3
[06:44] <linucs> Lartza, ?
[06:44] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: if thats the one it complains about on boot, then yes. Remove the whole line - or comment it out
[06:44] <ThatOneRoadie> that's what confuses me about the error. GRUB2 thinks that the UUID doesn't exist. Then it mounts the ISCSI drive, poof it exists, then it boots.
[06:44] <linucs> that's crazy
[06:44] <passerine> SecretFire, sorry I didn't see your line before.  Yes, it is.
[06:44] <Lartza> linucs, This is inside VM but yeah it is
[06:44] <SecretFire> passerine : what driver should I use, maybe installing one will fix issue?
[06:45] <linucs> I don't know what to say
[06:45] <Korbit> Bodsda: I can't login on that computer because it won't accept my password, so I'm on the recovery console. How can I get the output of those commands into a text file?
[06:45] <passerine> SecretFire, I think it depends on your video card.  Even then I don't know.
[06:45] <Lartza> linucs, 45% CPU usage measured from Windows when I move a window inside Ubuntu inside VirtualBox :D
[06:45] <kiwitinker1> what's your hidden agenda bodsda
[06:45] <linucs> Linux has always been slow to me when it comes to GUI. Definitely not the HW or drivers.
[06:45] <Lartza> "Idle" is 8-15
[06:46] <Bodsda> Korbit: install pastebinit then pipe it.    sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:46] <Lartza> WHat command does list the 3D unity supported stuff etc?
[06:46] <linucs> I have no idea.
[06:46] <ali4ever4> how to know the current system statistics ? current RAM , CPU usage any thing like task manager ?! how to get to it
[06:46] <linucs> Could you try the cpu usage of moving windows in Windows?
[06:46] <Lartza> Certainly
[06:46] <linucs> mine reaches 15 % on a quad
[06:46] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: htop
[06:46] <linucs> but it's smooth
[06:47] <Lartza> linucs, Oh hang on it lowers all my windows ;)
[06:47] <Lartza> linucs, Well the thing is mine is smooth on the VM too
[06:47] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: Let me clarify - this is a SAN Boot of Ubuntu. Grub looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715209/
[06:47] <Lartza> Not 100% smooth due to it being virtual but
[06:47] <linucs> Weird.
[06:47] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, well installing it now by apt-get
[06:47] <kiwitinker1> why don't you just say what your problem is bodsda
[06:47] <linucs> Looks like I'm not the only one: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/brief-history-cprogramming-com/10770-linuxs-gui-slower-than-windows.html
[06:48] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: erm... fair enough. Good luck :)
[06:48] <ThatOneRoadie> lmfao
[06:48] <Lartza> linucs, Moving a window in Windows only makes my GPU 5% or slow more in use
[06:48] <Korbit> Bodsda: apt-get gives me the error "Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com" I don't think the recovery console is connecting to my network.
[06:48] <ThatOneRoadie> are the search commands required on Grub, or can I strip them out?
[06:48] <Lartza> linucs, I am sporting a i3-540 hyperthreaded dual-core btw
[06:48] <linucs> See? Used less resources than linux
[06:48] <linucs> Thanks for confirming!
[06:49] <Lartza> linucs,  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[06:49] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah but it's  on a VM I'd have to run this properly to be accurate really
[06:49] <ThatOneRoadie> Korbit: edit /etc/resolv in your favorite text editor. It should be blank. Add: (no quotes) "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:49] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, thanks thats very nice, well chrome browser is killing my RAM i thought it is the reason from the begining
[06:49] <Lartza> linucs, Also no lag apart from the VM lag so that is invalid for me at least
[06:49] <Lartza> Just more resource usage
[06:49] <ThatOneRoadie> Korbit: then save it, close it, and try apt-get again
[06:49] <Bodsda> Korbit: hmm. Got some problems then. run    sudo fdisk -l | grep -i " / "   and see if it's mounted rw or ro
[06:50] <Lartza> Unity 3D supported:       yes
[06:50] <linucs> Lartza, nvidia or Amd Gfx card?
[06:50] <Lartza> linucs, Radeon HD 7750
[06:50] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: by chrome browser, you meant chromium-browser yeah?
[06:50] <linucs> oh no
[06:50] <linucs> Amd is even worse in Linux
[06:50] <Lartza> The most high-end no PSU power cable card
[06:50] <Lartza> :P
[06:50] <linucs> Open source drivers?
[06:50] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah but it uses the vbox driver
[06:50] <Lartza> linucs, vboxvideo
[06:50] <Lartza> :)
[06:50] <Lartza> This is why it's not a fair comparison
[06:50] <linucs> Well, it seems like you need really high end hardware to enjoy computing under linux
[06:51] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, well know i installed Google's chrome browser , is chromium better in RAM managment ?!
[06:51] <Lartza> linucs, I have ran Ubuntu on a Pentium 4 and Nvidia FX5500 128mb with no lag so... no :/
[06:51] <linucs> Lartza. Funny, it lags on my quad core with 7670m
[06:51] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: not but its open source and therefore makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside :)
[06:51] <Bodsda> not=no
[06:52] <Lartza> Also lower than that... P3 I think 866Mhz crunchbanglinux (Ubunut-based) with Openbox and Arch with Openbox
[06:52] <ausnahmefehler> hello everybody. is here anybody that could help me (beginner) with a simple shell script?
[06:52] <linucs> never been smooth,. One of the many things linux is a no-go for me
[06:52] <Bodsda> linucs: I've run a pentium3 with 256mb RAM without any performance problems using puppylinux
[06:52] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, lol thats true  :) but i wanted the same chrome experiance i had on windows :) , any idea of good browser which eats less RAM , is firefox better in this way ?!
[06:52] <Lartza> linucs, There's something wrong about the lag you experience surely
[06:52] <Bodsda> ausnahmefehler: paste away, someone may be able to help
[06:52] <SecretFire> passerine : does this look like the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1921178.html
[06:53] <linucs> Lartza, Maybe too much attention to details. But I can't suffer lag, I'm sorry
[06:53] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: unfortunately, after a while, they all suck at RAM management
[06:53] <Lartza> linucs, Yeah it's fine, I don't judge people ;) I am doomed to using Windows myself so
[06:53] <Lartza> :P
[06:53] <Bodsda> linucs: stay away from win8 then :)
[06:53] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, well thanks a lot for the help
[06:53] <Lartza> Bodsda, It's not lagging
[06:54] <Bodsda> its not working either
[06:54] <Lartza> I have a legit Windows8 even...
[06:54] <Lartza> :D
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: Aha, fixed it XD
[06:54] <linucs> Bodsda. Win8 is actually smoother than w7
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> just dumped the if-else search from Grub2
[06:54] <Kent-> I dated a guy named "Ubuntu" once
[06:54] <Lartza> linucs, Not buy much really, and for me it uses more resources
[06:54] <Kent-> he used to "play the bongos" on my ass
[06:54] <Bodsda> linucs: oh dear.
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> Korbit: any luck?
[06:54] <Lartza> linucs, But it could be like linuxatemyram, to make it more responsive :P
[06:54] <Korbit> Bodsda: fdisk doesn't seem to tell me how the drive is mounted. Did you mean "mount|grep -i "/""?
[06:55] <Bodsda> haha, nice Myrtti
[06:55] <ThatOneRoadie> I feel mistreated D:
[06:55] <linucs> possible
[06:55]  * ThatOneRoadie ducks
[06:55] <Bodsda> Korbit: no, the spaces where important - the end of the line should be something like (rw,someotherstuff,errors=ro)
[06:55] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: how?
[06:56] <ausnahmefehler> Ok. I am doing a little shell script, lets say as an example for dd' ing a harddisk. so the command would be "dd if=xxxx and so on...." Now I wanted to create a menu, that shows me the harddisks (like fdisk -l but with less infos) (sda 320 GB for example) and that lets me choose which harddisk to take. My problem is to get the menu
[06:56] <kiwitinker1> when you add a package where is it installed to?
[06:56] <passerine> SecretFire, there's a lot there and some of it pretty specific.  I have not had much experience with X crashes or graphics drivers in general.
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: The if-then-else loop in GRUB2 is only there to speed kernel loading by searching for the drive directly
[06:56] <Bodsda> ausnahmefehler: check out zenity
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> it's moot if the drive is not local though, and this drive isn't
[06:56] <SecretFire> hmm
[06:56] <ThatOneRoadie> so out it goes!
[06:56] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, +1 for zenity
[06:56] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: ahhh. good to know :)
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> No errors; It's so fast I don't even see grub
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> takes about 30 seconds XD
[06:57] <Bodsda> linux boot loaders ftw
[06:57] <octu> o
[06:57] <Lartza> Bodsda, Oh but did he want a non-GUI?
[06:57] <ausnahmefehler> Bodsda : I should be only for console.. I do not need any X-Server
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> from "I'm booting virtualbox" to "and now I'm in Linux, using a hard drive located 4 miles away"
[06:57] <Lartza> Yeah :)
[06:57] <octu> hello
[06:57] <Bodsda> Lartza: I hope not, zenity is awesome for this use
[06:57] <ThatOneRoadie> My pet project is complete :D
[06:58] <ausnahmefehler> how do I cut for example the output of "fdisk -l" so that there remains only disk /dev/sda 320GB
[06:58] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: sweet!
[06:58] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, i would like to how much each network each application is using this don't feel like possible in htop is it ? any good application for that ?
[06:58] <ausnahmefehler> awk does not work because it is in several lines...
[06:58] <Bodsda> ausnahmefehler: some fancy grep and awk commands probably - paste your output and I'll have a look
[06:59] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, whiptail or dialog are the complicated options
[06:59] <Korbit> Bodsda:  /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) that's the output from mount. I don't see anything like that in the output from fdisk.
[06:59] <octu> china
[06:59] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, To show fancy menus that is :P
[06:59] <ausnahmefehler> how do I use this pastebin? I am new to IRC
[06:59] <Bodsda> Korbit: hmm, looks mounted fine to me
[06:59] <Guest97352> i know you guys are going to hate me for asking this one
[07:00] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: search unity for 'system monitor'
[07:00] <Bodsda> Guest97352: don't ask then
[07:00] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: My just-completed pet project: Insert a 1mb cd into any computer. This CD contains iPXE. iPXE chainloads an iPXE script from my SAN Server that loads the ubuntu drive as an iSCSI SAN Device. Grub2 Loads, gets a DHCP-assigned IP, reconnects to iSCSI SAN Drive, then passes that just-connected drive up to kernel. Kernel, without disconnecting, loads iSCSI Drive as / and boots. I now have
[07:00] <ThatOneRoadie> a Persistent Live CD on a 1MB disk
[07:00] <Lartza> ausnahmefehler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:00] <ThatOneRoadie> f%#k yeah, linux
[07:00] <BlackWeb> Just curious is there a way to setup vsftp to encrypt Usernames, & Password but not Actual date during FTP Transfers? Or if I point the FTP Client to the SSH Port, is it setup that way by Default to encrypt Credentials but Not Data?
[07:00] <Guest97352> Bodsda: its about tpm specific bootloader problems
[07:00] <ausnahmefehler> thank you. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715230/
[07:00] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: I wish my boss would give me a week to mess about with stuff like that :)
[07:00] <Bodsda> Guest97352: tpm? doesnt mean anything to me
[07:00] <Guest97352> oh :/
[07:01] <Lartza> Bodsda, A Trusted Platform Module is a "Security Chip" which is built in many modern PCs.
[07:01] <ausnahmefehler> And I just want "Disk: sda 2000GB" for example
[07:01] <Guest97352> thats the trusted platform module, used for signing and passing keys along to the OS or whereever
[07:01] <ThatOneRoadie> Now
[07:01] <ThatOneRoadie> total shot in the dark here
[07:01] <ThatOneRoadie> but is there any way to do a full-disk encryption post-install?
[07:01] <Guest97352> Lartza: It's not really built in, surprisingly in a lot of machines
[07:01] <Bodsda> Lartza: how have I not heard about this? /me is googling now
[07:01] <Lartza> Bodsda, I haven't either, googled :)
[07:02] <Lartza> *hadn't
[07:02] <Bodsda> :)
[07:02] <Guest97352> Yeah it's not in many machines, you usually have a TPM connector on your motherboard if its for a workstation or server.
[07:02] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: not for / unfortunately
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> damn
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> ah well
[07:02] <Guest97352> You have to usually order a tpm chip to add.
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> I'll reinstall without touching grub later
[07:03] <Nmbr1> Bodsda/Lartza: tpm is used in many of the newer dell machines. you configure it in the bios and in the case of dell oem configs protects the fingerprint/biometric data store
[07:03] <ThatOneRoadie> for now, I'll firewall the SAN so that only local users can access it. That way internet trolls won't portscan and futz with my drive
[07:03] <Guest97352> If you are interested, look up Intel TXT, and Secure Boot (A very controversal protocol)
[07:03] <Nmbr1> ^ just 1 example
[07:03] <Bodsda> Nmbr1: i've just been building some new dell laptops, and lenovo's - I;ll do some searching when I get to the office
[07:03] <Guest97352> I will say a lot of dell's I've seen in my time in the government had TPM's already on them.
[07:03] <Lartza> Guest97352, Secure boot I've heard of sadly...
[07:04] <Bodsda> +1
[07:04] <Guest97352> Yeah, I'm not sure why a certfificate like that needs to be open.
[07:04] <Guest97352> Anywho my problem
[07:05] <Guest97352> I have a bootloader which has lost its transparency key, used to decrypt the drive.
[07:05] <ali4ever4> Bodsda, got to try nethogs looks like it can show me traffic per application
[07:06] <Bodsda> ali4ever4: ah, per app sorry - I don't know, but thanks for the info - I'll check out nethogs as well
[07:06] <Nmbr1> ali4ever4: you could also use something like untangle's application protocol to log/block application specific network traffic
[07:06] <Guest97352> Could a TPM revoke a key on it's own I wonder.
[07:06] <ali4ever4> Nmbr1: well i didnt get that , i am kind of new to linux world
[07:08] <Nmbr1> ali4ever4: no worries - untangle is a free hardware based firewall that is build on top of an Ubuntu core
[07:08] <Guest97352> I mean doesn't the order of the booting go from UEFI firmware - > UEFI boot management - > tpm exchange - > efi third party - > os bootloader - > kernel?
[07:09] <Lartza> Guest97352, tpm_revokeek clears the TPM revocable Endorsement Key Pair (via the TPM_RevokeEndorsementKey API). This command erases all counters (except the base one), erases the Ek, the SRK, the owner auth and any NVRAM locked to the owner auth. It does not touch the delegation tables or other NVRAM.
[07:09] <Lartza> Would that be enough?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Guest97352: I very much doubt that your machine has a TPM (note that secure boot does *not* involve a TPM).
[07:10] <Nmbr1> Guest97352: you can also go into the BIOS and turn off/clear the tpm keys and reboot
[07:10] <Guest97352> I can't do that I've already used the tpm for drive encryption :/
[07:10] <ali4ever4> Nmbr1, Thanks will check it out hopefully without breaking down my michine :)
[07:10] <Nmbr1> if you are using biometric authethentication for the OS that is protect by tpm and you don't change the login settings you will screw yourself
[07:10] <Nmbr1> ^ yep
[07:11] <Guest97352> Jordan_U: Don't jump to conclusions I installed the tpm myself, and I configured it :p
[07:11] <Guest97352> Well the problem isn't the passwords, it's the keys.
[07:11] <euroford> the package name of 32bit firefox in 64bit ubunut is firefox:i386
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Guest97352: Sorry. On a separate note, you might want to change your nick.
[07:12] <NotAGuest> Hmm
[07:12] <NotAGuest> I do know where they could be, but if they are overwritten what is the liklihood I could recover them?
[07:12] <NotAGuest> it's a 100MB efi partition
[07:13] <Nmbr1> ali4ever4: if you need any help with it, feel free to ask. it doesn't require much in the way of hardware except you need to nics.
[07:13] <Nmbr1> ^ runs on its own box
[07:13] <Korbit> To reiterate: I am logged into the recovery console as root because my password is not being accepted. / is mounted as rw, and when I try to use passwd to reset my password I get the error "authentication token manipulation error".
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> Bodsda: now that headless-SAN-booting is working
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> time to buy one of these and kick it into overdrive: http://www.rackmountpro.com/products/storage/jbod/details/&pnum=1JB9ZZZ0ST0
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[07:13] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: got any jobs going?
[07:14] <Bodsda> :)
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> noooope :(
[07:14] <ali4ever4> Nmbr1, thanks will be asking a lot when trying it currently nethogs is great for my purpose
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> this was a shits-and-giggles free time project
[07:14] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: without a budget?
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> AKA "What Sysadmins do when they're bored."
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> zero budget
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> everything I just did was free
[07:14] <Jordan_U> NotAGuest: I missed the original question. Could you summarize what you're trying to do?
[07:14] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: except now your asking for a few thousand for a disk tray
[07:14] <ThatOneRoadie> from the SAN to the Server (an old ProLiant) to the drives (two 15k RPM SCSI drives)
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> yeah, now I want to put it into production XD
[07:15] <Bodsda> :)
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> "Everything else is FREE! I just need a big old disk tray and about $18,000 in SAS Disks to populate it!"
[07:16] <NotAGuest> Jordan_U: I guess at this point, I am going to recover the keys that are missing. What would be the best way to find deleted or overwritten keys?
[07:16] <Bodsda> ThatOneRoadie: I'm sure it is "An operational requirement to improve the company's ability to maintain 99.9% uptim whilst also ensuring optimum performance to customers."
[07:16] <ThatOneRoadie> lmfao
[07:17] <ThatOneRoadie> sadly, I've used that excuse this quarter
[07:17] <Bodsda> haha :)
[07:17] <NotAGuest> What kind of cases are you using ThatOneRoadie
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> for 10GigE and 10gig Fiber throughout our campus XD
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> we have 10gig trunks to every building XD
[07:18] <Bodsda> :( /me has a 1gb backbone
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> our main internet line is 1G duplex
[07:18] <NotAGuest> :/ has 50TB array with crappy comcast backbone
[07:19] <Bodsda> 48TB EqualLogic nearlines
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> but we also have a 10gig multiplexed loop around the state and a couple of 300meg metro ethernet backups
[07:19] <NotAGuest> What raid controllers do you use?
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> NotAGuest: Cases?
[07:19] <NotAGuest> Yeah as in the server cases used to toss drives in
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> ah
[07:19] <NotAGuest> like for ex I use norco
[07:19] <simpleuser> Hello there.
[07:20] <Bodsda> hi
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> Our SAN guy could tell you more, but we have a few ProLiant systems, a few racks worth of Dell PowerEdge servers
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> Pretty much anything in our budget
[07:20] <NotAGuest> ahhh, I build my own
[07:20] <Jordan_U> NotAGuest: I think that's pretty much impossible by design. TPMs are made to store keys securely, so you won't be able to just read blocks of the flash that haven't been overwritten yet like you would with a drive. I guess there is a chance that your TPM will specifically have a feature for restoring recently deleted keys, but beyond that I expect you're out of luck.
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> I'm just a lowly NOC Engineer XD
[07:20] <Bodsda> We're a dell shop - everything from 1650's through to R910's
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> NOC engineer, sysadmin, handyman, and right-hand to the head of IT
[07:20] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> and when I'm not doing that, I'm an Audio Engineer for huge concert tours
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> think: Green Day or Trans-Siberian Orchestra
[07:21] <NotAGuest> Well that's the weird thing Jordan_U, I have the tpm recovery key, but I'm not sure how to extract the other keys.
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> Now that I think about it... I lead an interesting life.
[07:22] <ThatOneRoadie> bahaha
[07:23] <ThatOneRoadie> I just looked at our current network utilization
[07:23] <ThatOneRoadie> I think some people on campus are torrenting XD
[07:23] <k1l> ThatOneRoadie: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chat
[07:23] <ThatOneRoadie> aha
[07:23] <NotAGuest> I was about to sa
[07:23] <simpleuser> Here is my problem : I have many folders, each one containing mp3 constituting an album. Each folder is called "blablabla - Album n°X" where X is a number and the only thing to change between folders. I'd like that every mp3 in these folders has in its album id3tag the name of its folder. Do you think it's possible ? If yes, how ?
[07:23] <xhgordon> Any of you guys know if there is a mac specific ubuntu channel kicking around?
[07:24] <auronandace> !mac | xhgordon
[07:27] <Jordan_U> simpleuser: Yes, using fairly simple bash scripting. I need to leave now but I could write a script to do it for you tomorrow, or someone else could help, or you could research for yourself to find a terminal based mp3 metadata editor and learn some basic bash (#bash and the tutorials linked in its topic are very helpful).
[07:28] <tiao> when i shutdown my ubuntu,it shows "can't open /etc/init.d/ .depend.stop, no such file or directory",what can i do
[07:28] <simpleuser> Jordan_U: ok it seems like a good idea... I'll try to do it... Thanks for your help and advice :). Don't worry i'll do it myself. It's very kind.
[07:33] <tiao> i need help
[07:34] <impossibru> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[07:34] <impossibru> he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[07:34] <Oddity> cool
[07:39] <tiao> i've google it ,but the problem still exists
[07:40] <tiao> guys?
[07:41] <contrapunctus> impossibru: err...wat
[07:47] <tiao> hello?
[07:47] <contrapunctus> !ask | tiao
[07:51] <BlackWeb> Has anyone ever got SSL to work with vsftpd
[07:52] <t3hb055nueb> just got a Ti-84 calculator, ubuntu does.. my usb does not recognize it at all.
[07:53] <CodeRunner> anyone have experiance creating a ppp link between a ubuntu machine and a device over a serial port?
[07:56] <CoolCoder> I have a serious issue. I am not sure why my ubuntu says always Disk full. I have 360 GB disc and multipartitioned dual boot on windows 7. Can anyone help me to add more space to my ubuntu root folder.
[07:56] <CoolCoder> http://oi50.tinypic.com/687gwo.jpg
[07:56] <CoolCoder> http://oi47.tinypic.com/foeo8y.jpg
[07:56] <CoolCoder> http://oi50.tinypic.com/2i900.jpg
[07:56] <FloodBot1> CoolCoder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <dr_willis>  and how big is your /  CoolCoder ?
[07:58] <CoolCoder> can i share the gparted screenshot?
[07:58] <jhattara> CoolCoder: in terminal type df -h and share the output
[07:58] <BlackWeb> Has anyone used SSL with VSFTP,
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> trying to link my ti 84. got this. [sudo] password for t3hb055:
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> patching file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2.
[07:58] <t3hb055nueb> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules.rej
[07:58] <FloodBot1> t3hb055nueb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <BlackWeb> After creating RSA Key then I'm running into the Error 500 OOPS: SSL: cannot load RSA certificate
[07:59] <CoolCoder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715337/
[07:59] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  pasteing text files is better..
[07:59] <BlackWeb> But the Key is there vsftpd.pem
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> [sudo] password for t3hb055:
[07:59] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  so you are using a wubi install?
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> patching file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2.
[07:59] <t3hb055nueb> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file /lib/udev/rules.d/45-libticables.rules.rej
[07:59] <FloodBot1> t3hb055nueb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <t3hb055nueb> sry
[08:00] <CoolCoder> yes
[08:00] <t3hb055nueb> Can anyone help me?
[08:00] <dr_willis> you should have mentioned that to begin with. ;)  theres guides out there on resizeing a wubi hd image file.. but i dont use wubi. and i dont reccomend using wubi.
[08:00] <snoppy> hi all!
[08:01] <Nmbr1> dr_willis: +1
[08:01] <Nmbr1> wubi has issues with stability
[08:01] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: Is there any way to resize the root. I am in the middle of so manythings. So cant reinstall this
[08:01] <mattnie> use a live cd and resize it ;)
[08:01] <Nmbr1> CoolCoder: i tried wubi with win7 and would reguarly need to run check disk
[08:02] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you dont resize from within the booted wubi setup as far as  i know.
[08:02] <Nmbr1> i would reccomend either a vm or a parallel install
[08:02] <snoppy> hey, people! Yesterday I faced the problem with print screen in ubuntu 12.04
[08:02] <snoppy> Print Screen key doesn't work if a drop-down menu is active
[08:02] <sonofzeus> hi
[08:02] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you coul dmake a   ext2/3/4 filesystem within a file and mount it via the loop back featrure.. and have some space to put stuff.. or just move unneeded stuff to the windows drives main partition
[08:02] <snoppy> Does anybody has the same problem?
[08:02] <CoolCoder> Nmbr1: need to reinstall. or there is no way to resize this root?
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> snoppy, You can set a delay and trigger the dropdown
[08:03] <sonofzeus> my lubuntu says connecting but doesnt connect?
[08:03] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: any links to share for help. I am not so experienced in doing this.
[08:03] <sonofzeus> it has lxde core installed
[08:04] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  on doing what? you can move stuff over to your windows /host/  drive  eaially enough.
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> snoppy, using the screenshot tool.
[08:04] <snoppy> wilee-nilee: hmm... how can I do it?
[08:04] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  that would be the easiest way to free up some space
[08:04] <snoppy> oh
[08:04] <snoppy> I see
[08:05] <snoppy> now try to)
[08:05] <CoolCoder> dr_willis:  And one more thing i forgot to mention. I have very few additional files. around 3 or 3 gb max on ubuntu
[08:06] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  move unneeded junk over to /media/sda8  whatever that is. perhaps.. your windows drive is almost full also
[08:06] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  your ubuntu wubi install is all on 15gb of space.. so 3ggb is like 1/5 of your total space...
[08:07] <dr_willis> i really have to wonder at how your disk is partioned.. having a sda8 is a little.. odd. you have so many little partions
[08:07] <snoppy> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[08:08] <CoolCoder> dr_wills: "your ubuntu wubi install is all on 15gb of space" this is what I am confused. I have added more space while creating OS.
[08:08] <Jpmh> what ap should I use to grab an image using the onboard camera
[08:08] <MonkeyDust> ah wubi
[08:08] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  i dont know where/how you added more space..
[08:08] <dr_willis> it shows / as being 15gb and 97% full.
[08:08] <mattnie> Jmph: cheese
[08:08] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  pastebin the output of 'sudo blkid' perhaps
[08:09] <CoolCoder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:10] <dr_willis> try again. ;)
[08:10] <Jpmh> mattnie: ty - will pull docs
[08:10] <CoolCoder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715355/
[08:11] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  if you look.. you will see that sda8 is linux formated.. but not really being used.. unless you copy stuff to it..
[08:12] <dr_willis> i dont know what you got on sda8 - but its 1/3 full.
[08:13] <CoolCoder> I dont have many stuff to copy. its all the linux files i think. I ahve been using ubuntu for some text file works. But really, can we add those spaces to the ubuntu?
[08:14] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you dont merge a partion into a wubi hd file...
[08:14] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you need to figure out what you can move over to sda8 to free up space on your  / partition.  somting is taking up 15gb of space..
[08:14] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get clean, and sudo apt-get autoremove   may clean up some space.
[08:14] <Jpmh> mattnie: I grabbed cheese - the man page is worthless - any info on it - I should add I really want to do this from the command line
[08:14] <dr_willis> also i would check /var/logs to remove any old log files
[08:16] <CoolCoder> "also i would check /var/logs to remove any old log files"
[08:16] <CoolCoder> you need file?
[08:16] <dr_willis> if you dont have a need for the old log files, remove them. they can take up a lot of space
[08:17] <CoolCoder> var/log is empty
[08:17] <dr_willis>    thats very very weird that /var/log would be empty
[08:18] <CoolCoder> sorry. not empty
[08:18] <kewel> what is the 'OEM install' on the 12.04 alternate install disc?
[08:18] <CoolCoder> do u mean, i need to clear that log file?
[08:18] <dr_willis> theres dozens of log files in /var/log   see if any are very large.. and remove any old ones.
[08:19] <dr_willis> or if you want to get hard core.. remove them all. ;) but thats a little extreme
[08:19] <CoolCoder> how to remove all log files. i dont want that
[08:20] <dr_willis> you use the rm command.. same as you delete any other file.. 'you dont want what?'
[08:20] <kewel> nm. oem install asks personal questions upon first boot.. as if you bought it that way.  derr
[08:20] <kewel> hi
[08:20] <dr_willis> any file with a .gz or a .2 or .3 extension would be an older log file
[08:20] <dr_willis> and could be deleted
[08:20] <CoolCoder> i dont want log files so far
[08:21] <kiwitinker1> I don't know how to issue a command to start a game in console, I'm in the right directory etc..., I just don't know how you start a command to run. It's a .386 file, I have tried to look for examples elsewhere but it seems something so basic is not thought of to explain
[08:22] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  the phrase 'its a .386' file' makes no sence.
[08:22] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: other than wubi, is there any way for dual install?
[08:22] <vlt> kiwitinker1: What does `file <the_file.386` tell you?
[08:22] <CoolCoder> i mean dual boot
[08:22] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  trhe normal install process does a dual boot setup.
[08:22] <vlt> kiwitinker1: What does *`file <the_file.386>` tell you? Without "< >" of course.
[08:22] <kiwitinker1> nothing, just included it in case someone asked for some reason
[08:22] <dr_willis> theres really no need for wubi unless you CANT repartiion your hd.. which you HAVE done...
[08:23] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  if the game name is  'foobar' you can run it with ./foobar   if the file is executable and a normal linux binary
[08:23] <kewel> off to install! later taters
[08:24] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: if i want to remove wubi and install ubnutu, can i get backup everything i have now and restore?
[08:24] <kiwitinker1> including the full stop, i.e "./"
[08:25] <dr_willis> !backup
[08:26] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  full stop? err.. thats the exact PATH to the file.  ./  mean 'in the local directory;
[08:26] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  or you could do /path/to/whever/the/file/is/foobar
[08:26] <kiwitinker1> thanks, that did it, after more than an hour going no where solved just like that
[08:27] <dr_willis> kiwitinker1:  it may be worth reading some bash guides.. that would have been  mentioned in an early chapter i imagine. ;)
[08:27] <dr_willis> for security reasons the 'current directory' is NOT included in the default path.
[08:28] <kiwitinker1> that will come dr_willis
[08:33] <Syria> Hello, I have a remote VPS, I usually create an ssh tunnel and browse internet using it with command "ssh -D 'port' user@host" my question is can I apply these settings system wide using the terminal? I am talking about the socks proxy and port settings.
[08:37] <dr_willis> you could setup a vpn on the vps i belive...    but ive never done that.
[08:38] <CoolCoder> dr_willis: other than wubi, which one to download to install on windows as dual partition? When i try the download link, wubi is getting
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  mind : http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033316/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-drops-wubi-in-final-beta.html
[08:40] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  you are confuseing terms i think...   WUBI is a special way you can install ubuntu.. its a windows intaller basically that makes a ubuntu virtual hd file..  any ubuntu disrto can do a normal dual boot.. wubi is the 'odd ball' way of doing things
[08:41] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  i would suggest forgetting wubi even exists and never use it again.
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  wubi is merely a pseudo-installing
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  wubi is merely a pseudo-installation*
[08:41] <dr_willis> get a normal ubuntu desktop iso file.. burn it to dvd/cd/usb and boot it and do a normal install
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> CoolCoder  wubi is not "the real thing"
[08:42] <CoolCoder> ok
[08:42]  * dr_willis will be glad when wubi dies.
[08:42] <dr_willis> and right now.. it looks like its in the crosshairs :)
[08:42]  * MonkeyDust already using 13.04, RIP wubi
[08:42] <CoolCoder> that made me *****, Now i think i need to reinstall again. I fear data loss. both existing ubuntu or windows. But i think i have to do it
[08:43] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  if you feart data loss... MAKE BACKUPS of the data thats imporntant....
[08:43] <dr_willis> really - what data do you have to backup thatss critical?
[08:43] <CoolCoder> ok
[08:45] <dr_willis> your wubi install is on a 15gb partition.. you can back that whole thing up to a $10 usb flash drive
[08:46] <Kekke> Hello everyone, I have an ubuntu server running LAMP, in apaches /var/www I have sub directories with users, i.e. /var/www/kekke/www/, this www folder is owned by the user Kekke with the group sftpuser, my group sftpuser gives the users access to the folder through sftp (their home dir is set to /var/www/user/www/). But when I install joomla to the www folder, I get all files/folders as unwritable, if I manually change them to 777 it wor