[14:58] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: It was same before as I used a backport version of kde with a widget for monitoring and that worked on natty ... the same versions on Oneiric did not
[14:59] <yeats> GirlyGirl: have you tried running 'sensors' on the command line?
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Do you have a solution or are you taking me in circles here with your "i doubt that" remarks
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> yeats: Yes
[15:00] <ubentobox> hey everyone
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> yeats: No output concerning fan speed only temperature
[15:00] <ubentobox> have a question that has been unanswered on the forums for months.  Don't even think anyone even took a glance at it
[15:00] <yeats> GirlyGirl: ok
[15:00] <pendergast> GirlyGirl: having that kind of username and being cocky is not going to help you
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> !language | pendergast
[15:01] <ubentobox> When starting Ubuntu 11.04 a "search" gump is fighting with the keychain for control, and it makes it impossible to use my netbook.  Does anyone know how to shut that off at launch?
[15:01] <ubentobox> It shows up as gnome do when I click the search window
[15:01] <ubentobox> but i dont want to kill the whole process just the search
[15:01] <GirlyGirl> pendergast: Besides there is nothing wrong with my username
[15:02] <brianherman> i put in a new video card in ubuntu and then the display went away
[15:03] <brianherman> in my box
[15:03] <brianherman> do i have to reinstall?
[15:03] <nebajoth> ladies and gentlemen: ctrl-alt-t shortcut not opening terminal in gnome3. I googled around on my home workstation and found a bug report for this recommending a fix of blowing away some configuration file and letting it recreate it. This worked, but I cannot now re-find the link (have been googling for 15+ minutes). Any idea what the fix for this is?
[15:03] <szal_> !details | brianherman
[15:03] <nebajoth> brianherman: try removing your xorg.conf if you have one
[15:03] <brianherman> oh ok
[15:03] <brianherman> and it will regen the xorg.conf
[15:03] <brianherman> when i reboot
[15:03] <nebajoth> yes
[15:03] <brianherman> ok
[15:03] <brianherman> thanks
[15:04] <nebajoth> probably don't even need to reboot
[15:04] <ubentobox> When starting Ubuntu 11.04 a "search" gump is fighting with the keychain for control, and it makes it impossible to use my netbook.  Does anyone know how to shut that off at launch?
[15:04] <brianherman> well i have to turn it off when i install it
[15:04] <nebajoth> just /etc/init.d/{gdm/kdm/lightdm} restart
[15:04] <Phoenix87> some murrine themes don't seem to be working correctly, controls looks ugly but window borders are pretty fine
[15:04] <brianherman> ok thanks
[15:04] <brianherman> well when i install the card in 11.10 i get no monitors what so ever
[15:04] <brianherman> maybe its my bios
[15:04] <phunyguy_work> !patience | ubentobox
[15:04] <yeats> brianherman: what model card?
[15:05] <brianherman> 4670
[15:05] <brianherman> there is one on the motherboard
[15:05] <brianherman> ati 4670
[15:05] <brianherman> and a 3300 on the motherboard
[15:05] <yeats> !ati
[15:05] <yeats> brianherman: see if that helps
[15:05] <brianherman> ok
[15:05] <brianherman> ill try again
[15:05] <ubentobox> I have asked for support since JUNE and still havent had a single answer, see? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799486
[15:06] <brianherman> thank you yeats
[15:06] <Dante_> hii... how can i compile the gnome3 for my ubuntu 10.04 from the source ??
[15:06] <pendergast> ubentobox: the search task may be called "tracker" or some variation thereof
[15:07] <mehlol> Dante_ why not just use the packages?
[15:07] <yeats> Dante_: I would upgrade to 11.10 and install the gnome-shell package
[15:07] <mehlol> Or you could add the papa.
[15:07] <pendergast> you may get some joy from just uninstalling the appropriate pkg
[15:07] <mehlol> *ppa, sorry, on iPad
[15:07] <yeats> Dante_: far less trouble and no breakage ;-)
[15:07] <Dante_> i like 10.04 and dont wanna upgrade ....
[15:07] <Dante_> :(
[15:08] <mehlol> Dante_ generally you can get the source, build it,
[15:08] <ubentobox> pendergast: Tracker you say?  Is this something that would be nested inside the gnome do config?  It is probably going to take me a good 10 tries to restart ubuntu just to get past the conflicting keychain/GD search
[15:08] <Dante_> yeahh.. i got the gnome source site .. but wat all sources do i need to compile i dont have a list ...
[15:08] <mehlol> And then install, but it would take time to build gnome3, depending on processor specs, and you would need a whole bunch of packages.
[15:09] <pendergast> ubentobox: why don't you go via commandline: Ctl+Alt+F2 iirc (for tty2)
[15:09] <mehlol> Dante_ what do you want?
[15:09] <dr_willis> even compiling it would break the gnome2 thats installed wouldent it.
[15:09] <pendergast> then you can kill it e.g. via killall after inspecting "ps -A"
[15:09] <ubentobox> pendergast: I try, but the problem is it locks the system completely.  I cannot do anything until the keychain is entered into, but like I said it locks the system out because the tracker keeps jumping to the forefront for some reason
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> dr_willis, it shouldn't
[15:10] <Dante_> the list of all the packages for gnome3 ... i need to build
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> make install would break it
[15:10] <yeats> ubentobox: you might experiment with either 1) creating a new user and seeing if the problem recurs or 2) moving your /home/<username> directory out of the way.  In either case you could migrate your data to the newly-created home directory
[15:10] <Dante_> from the source
[15:10] <dr_willis> ubentobox:  you can set the keyring to not ask for a password.. as a test/work around.
[15:10] <pendergast> ubentobox: you can boot into a lower runlevel to get access to console if nothing else gives
[15:10] <Dante_> i got the gnome-session , gnome-panel , gnome-shell
[15:10] <Dante_> gnome-terminal
[15:11] <yeats> Dante_: I don't think anyone in this channel is going to recommend that you do what you're trying to do ;-)
[15:11] <zykotick9> yeats, agreed
[15:11] <dr_willis> I definatly see a broken system for Dante_   :)
[15:11] <Dante_> i know ... but i just wanna try it what can happen
[15:11] <Dante_> ;)
[15:11] <dr_willis> Dante_:  a complete reinstall to fix it...
[15:11] <ubentobox> lol took me 7 tries but finally got past that stupid tracker
[15:12] <ubentobox> afk a few gotta do some work
[15:12] <Dante_> i already got a back of my entire system ...
[15:12] <Dante_> using tar ...
[15:12] <pendergast> Dante_ aside from what others have said, there should be a compile script available that automates it all for you
[15:12] <Dante_> so i dont have to worry about reinstalling anything
[15:12] <dr_willis> if you want to test out gnome-shell, be easier to just install a disrto that has it in virtualbox. ;)
[15:13] <phunyguy_work> Dante_, if you have the space, an offline dd would have been a better option to backup
[15:13]  * yeats finds it amusing that most of the complaints in this channel are about wanting to revert to GNOME2 and here we have someone wanting to install GNOME3 the hard way ;-)
[15:13] <pendergast> Dante_ dr_willis: or a live disc, even!
[15:13] <Dante_> i got a virtual ... but i got windows on it and it's too much pain to install ubuntu in a virtualbox now :S
[15:13] <Dante_> so i will directly try it on my system ...
[15:14] <zykotick9> Dante_, but compiling gnome3 on top of a distro that wasn't designed to use it - that's not a pain...
[15:14] <yeats> Dante_: nah - installing Ubuntu in Vbox takes like 10 minutes
[15:14] <square__> can anyone please help me? i am running ubuntu 10.10 and vmware.. when i launch a java application within a windows vm, mouse and keyboard won't work anymore and it seems x freezes.. when i replug the keyboard i can change to another terminal and reboot.. java in linux based vm's work without problems
[15:14] <Dante_> i have backuped everything using this command : tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[15:14] <brianherman> thanks whoever helped me with the xorg thing
[15:14] <brianherman> it worked
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> Dante_, if you really want to play, grab the ubuntu 11.10 alternate install, and just do a text install.  Then compile away~!
[15:15] <Dante_> i just need a terminal to get everything back to it's place ...
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> then you are starting with a clean slate.
[15:16] <spinx60> hello
[15:16] <Dante_> well .. let me first build all the packages ..... for gnome3 ...
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> HEY
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> HOW CAN I PM SOMEONE IN IRC
[15:16] <phunyguy_work> but if you are going to do that, might as well just upgrade to 11.10 and then install gnome
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> WHAT IS THE COMMAND
[15:16] <Dante_> is there a list for all the source files for gnome3 ?
[15:16] <spinx60> anyone here who can help me out with an issue regarding new install of a new kernel
[15:16] <phunyguy_work> !caps | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:16] <yeats> !pm | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:16] <IcePhoenixReborn> i dont know how to pm
[15:17] <phunyguy_work> IcePhoenixReborn, /msg <user> <message>
[15:17] <IcePhoenixReborn> ty
[15:17] <ssbpls> ubottu:what does a PM mean?
[15:17] <phunyguy_work> not really a ubuntu support question, and you probably could have googled it, but glad to help
[15:18] <yeats> ssbpls: private message
[15:18] <ssbpls> yeats:thanks
[15:18] <brianherman> use /msg
[15:18] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, are you a bot?
[15:18] <iElectric> are there any know regressions for update batch yesterday?
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> YES ubottu is a bot.
[15:18] <iElectric> lenovo laptop is lagging like shit.
[15:18] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, then just say YES n00b.
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> !language | iElectric
[15:19] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, are you retarded? dont repeat
[15:19] <yeats> !bot | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:19] <brianherman> IcePheonixReborn: use /msg
[15:19] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubuntu = troll
[15:19] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, ^
[15:19] <zykotick9> !botabuse | IcePhoenixReborn
[15:19] <ssbpls> yeats:when someone says "i am a bot",what does he mean?
[15:19] <brianherman> yeats: were you the guy who helped me?
[15:19] <brianherman> yeats: thank you
[15:20] <pendergast> ssbpls: a bot a computer program, not a human being
[15:20] <nebajoth> ctrl-alt-t not opening terminal in gnome3
[15:20] <nebajoth> any idea?
[15:20] <IcePhoenixReborn> pendergast, i live in tron
[15:20] <IcePhoenixReborn> so its the same
[15:20] <yeats> brianherman: I directed you to the ATI link - it was nebajoth I think who suggested the xorg.conf resolution ;-)
[15:20] <ssbpls> yeats:thank you!
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> nebajoth, I would assume you need to set your keyboard shortcuts
[15:20] <brianherman> nebajoth: thank you nebajoth
[15:20] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: they're set properly
[15:21] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: at least to the naked eye :P
[15:21] <brianherman> nebajoth: it worked
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> =D
[15:21] <nebajoth> brianherman: you're welcome
[15:21] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: additionally, ctrl-alt-t should be default
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> nebajoth, I have issues with keyboard shortcuts not working unless a panel has "focus" - like ctrl-alt-l for lock.
[15:22] <IcePhoenixReborn> ubottu, cya in tron
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: all other shortcuts work, including lockscreen
[15:22] <phunyguy_work> so i just click the panel, and then do the kepresses now out of habit
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: its just ctrl-alt-t
[15:22] <phunyguy_work> just providing input
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: yup
[15:22] <nebajoth> phunyguy_work: just providing feedback :P
[15:22] <iElectric> any known regressions on last kernel update batch from yesterday? ubuntu is freezing every 5 sec
[15:23] <phunyguy_work> !patience | iElectric
[15:23] <szal> phunyguy_work: what is it w/ that !patience trigger?
[15:24] <phunyguy_work> folks are asking very quickly.  can still see their previous mesages on my screen
[15:24] <BlouBlou> iElectric: If you think it's kernel issue, run the old one (you can choose it from grub2)
[15:25] <iElectric> BlouBlou: kernel or xorg
[15:25] <iElectric> will try
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> speaking of updates, i need to restart for that batch.
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> bbl
[15:26] <AdvoWork> ive installed the server version of ubuntu 10.04 but sendmail isnt on there, can I just install it?
[15:26] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: you sure can
[15:27] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: apt-get install sendmail
[15:27] <jrr> wubi filesystem is impressive voodoo magic, but sheesh does it fragment the heck out of the ntfs partition
[15:27] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: sudo apt-get install sendmail
[15:27] <Sanus> Okay.  Hello.
[15:27] <Sanus> So
[15:27] <bfreis> Hi, I'm trying to create a bootable usb stick with Ubuntu Cloud Infrastructure live image, but "Startup Disk Creator" fails right after I click "Make Startup Disk" saying "Installation Failed". ~/.cache/usb-creator.log says "TypeError: Expected a string or unicode object". Googling, I've found some reported (and fixed) bugs with similar symptoms, but this is different: the bugs I've seen occur when the image's path contains non-ascii characters, which is no
[15:27] <bfreis> t the case here. Any ideas?
[15:29] <nebajoth> bfreis: try installing unetbootin and see if you have luck with that
[15:29] <nebajoth> its a less-integrated liveusb creator
[15:29] <nebajoth> I find I get better success with it generally
[15:30] <bfreis> nebajoth, apt-get install unetbootin wants to install packages "syslinux-themes-debian" and "syslinux-themes-debian-squeeze" as well, won't it create a mess on my system?
[15:30] <nebajoth> nah
[15:31] <nebajoth> bfreis: they're just themes, first of all
[15:31] <nebajoth> bfreis: second, I think that's just to apply to the liveusb if its debian
[15:31] <bfreis> nebajoth, oh, ok
[15:31] <nebajoth> unetbootin has the ability to do a bunch of distros single-click
[15:31] <nebajoth> it will download the iso and apply it to the usb stick
[15:31] <nebajoth> debian included
[15:31] <bfreis> interesting
[15:32] <nebajoth> yeah, I don't use it for that typically
[15:32] <nebajoth> but it seems like it could be handy if you're into flashing lots of distros to usb
[15:32] <nebajoth> it also has the ability to apply an arbitrary iso
[15:32] <nebajoth> which is what you're looking for
[15:32] <bfreis> wow, it has a Windows95-like ugly interface!
[15:32] <nebajoth> yeah, its not super pretty :P
[15:32] <Sanus> Okay
[15:32] <Sanus> Back
[15:32] <nebajoth> which is probably why they don't integrate it into ubuntu
[15:32] <Sanus> Now,
[15:32] <linda> unetbootin is pretty cool.  I keep several ISOs in my ISOs directory and can make a bootable USB stick in minutes.
[15:33] <Sanus> I'm in 10.04... And I don't have a wireless manager.  Help.  :C
[15:33] <nebajoth> Sanus: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:33] <nebajoth> :P
[15:33] <Sanus> Uh, no.
[15:33] <Sanus> Not if it's going to upgrade 10.04.
[15:33] <AdvoWork> nebajoth, and thats it?
[15:33] <linda> All my USB sticks are bootable.
[15:33] <norpan> RaTTuS|BIG: hey, yesterday you said to me to do something with "blablala | pastebinit" to see my cores etc to cpu, could you rememeber what it was?
[15:33] <AdvoWork> no config etc
[15:33] <linda> and different
[15:33] <Sanus> I just went through hoops to install 10.04.  I just need a wireless manager.
[15:33] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: essentially. You might have to do some configuration on the other side. Why Sendmail, though?
[15:33] <linda> Sanus: You need what?
[15:34] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: what are you trying to do?
[15:34] <Sanus> linda: A wireless manager.
[15:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> norpan cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit
[15:34] <linda> Sanus: wicd
[15:34] <Sanus> linda: I thought there were problems with wicd
[15:35] <linda> Sanus: If you don't like what the normal network-manager is doing, install wicd.  I think you can have both but you can remove network-manager if you want.
[15:35] <norpan> RaTTuS|BIG: thank you so much
[15:35] <linda> Sanus: What problems?
[15:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> np - is it better now
[15:35] <linda> Seems to work fine far as I can tell.
[15:35] <Sanus> linda: Network-manager just doesn't seem to detect my net card.
[15:35] <Sanus> linda: I'm guessing I'm going to require updating.
[15:36] <nebajoth> AdvoWork: PM me if you want
[15:37] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have kubuntu on an ASUS EeePC 1005HA running Kubuntu 11.10.  All fan speed monitoring apps / widgets do not detect sensors on the system. In previous versions, I could monitor the fan speed under ubuntu. Is there any workarround for this? I tried running sensors-detect and sensors; they only find the temperature sensors
[15:37] <linda> But you need to install wicd first.  i.e.  sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager #And be sure not to skip the part where it asks if you want to add your user to netdev group.
[15:37] <grendal-prime> ok i got two machines now that everytime i open firefox (or attempt to) i get the error about how its already running and i have to go kill off the process.  It happens every day now.  What is causing that?
[15:37] <linda> Sanus: Yea, you will need to reboot.
[15:38] <Sanus> Rebooting is the least of my worries
[15:38] <dp> is there a way for the alt-tab window to show me the title of my urxvt windows, instead of just "urxvt"?
[15:38] <linda> grendal-prime: pkill firefox
[15:39] <linda> grendal-prime: ALt-F2 pkill firefox
[15:39] <grendal-prime> ya i know how to fix it...problem is..my 11 year old daughter is a bit...unskilled in the area...and although she is learing...she did ask a good question.  "why is that now happeneing when it wasnt before?"
[15:39] <AdvoWork> anyone know how i can find a flatbed scanner that will definaetly work with ubutnu?
[15:39] <AdvoWork> *ubuntu
[15:40] <Qualia> how do i close xterminal
[15:40] <grendal-prime> AdvoWork, most usb's should work..
[15:40] <Qualia> after ctrl alt f1
[15:40] <Qualia> how do i change back to GUI
[15:40] <ocs_> hi, does uck (ubuntu customization kit) work with lubuntu isos ?
[15:40] <linda> grendal-prime: What window manager are you using?  Is she pulling the plug or doing something weird?  What version of firefox is it?  Is the system fully updated?  What is your version number?
[15:40] <zykotick9> Qualia, alt+f7 to get back to GUI (or F8, if F7 fails)
[15:40] <grendal-prime> Qualia, ctrl alt f7
[15:41] <Qualia> Thank you both, but when i get back to Xterm again, theyre open
[15:41] <AdvoWork> grendal-prime, tried a canoscan one and it wont :S so i need to buy one, but I dont want to buy it if it wont work
[15:41] <Qualia> isnt it possible to close it ? :p
[15:41] <zykotick9> grendal-prime, while in VTs you don't need the CTRL - that's an Xorg shortcut (but i think it'll still work)
[15:41] <Qualia> anyway, i guess its my lack of information about xterm. its a kernel module that cant be closed probably
[15:42] <grendal-prime> zykotick9,  oh i missunderstood his environment sorry...
[15:42] <zykotick9> Qualia, the (ctrl+alt+f1 -> f6) aren't actually xterm's they're called Virtual Terminals - and they don't close
[15:42] <AdvoWork> nebajoth, pm'd thanks
[15:43] <Qualia> ok
[15:43] <chris_in_regina> Good morning
[15:43] <chris_in_regina> Good morning
[15:43] <linda> you said that already
[15:44] <chris_in_regina> Nobody responded.  :)
[15:44] <grendal-prime> OOOO you Qualia  yo wanted to know why they were still open...ok..ya what zykotick9 said...they are always there..(thank god)
[15:44] <chris_in_regina> How are you today, Linda?
[15:44] <linda> chris_in_regina: It is probably a good morning in your timezone, but not every one is in your time zone.
[15:44] <linda> I'm fine. Thanks for asking.
[15:44] <chris_in_regina> True - where are you?
[15:45] <Kim4x> ...
[15:45] <chris_in_regina> I am in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.
[15:45] <linda> it's morning here too.
[15:45] <grendal-prime> chris_in_regina, IM DOING GREAT...I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA AND IM GOING TO GO SURFING LATER
[15:45] <linda> Texas
[15:45] <Kim4x> x)
[15:45] <Koenigsegg> How do I find the window type for the 'Computer locked' or 'Screen locked' window?
[15:45] <grendal-prime> not really
[15:45] <chris_in_regina> Very cool.  :)
[15:45] <linda> grendal-prime: Awesome.... wish I could go
[15:46] <chris_in_regina> Is Texas warm this time of year?
[15:46] <linda> Koenigsegg: Screensaver?
[15:46] <Guest85743> I installed ubuntu while a flash drive was in my computer, and the boot record installed on the flash drive
[15:46] <grendal-prime> I was just kidding..i hate surfing,  its cold..and well there is sharks..deadthings everywhere and..sand, and it gets everywhere.
[15:46] <linda> chris_in_regina: Texas is warm and cold this time of year depending on what time of day it is,.
[15:46] <Guest85743> How can I fix that
[15:46] <zykotick9> chris_in_regina, this isn't really a general chit-chat channel.  Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:47] <Koenigsegg> linda: No, the one that is used when I leave the computer for a while and the screen is locked(enter pw to get back in, etc, etc).
[15:47] <chris_in_regina> Ha!  Tennessee is like that too.  We have eight inches of snow on the ground in Regina.
[15:47] <grendal-prime> my stupid broser is always broke
[15:47] <linda> Koenigsegg: And you want to dissable that function?
[15:47] <Guest85743> Anyone?
[15:47] <linda> Koenigsegg: If so, go to the screensaver options, you'll find it there.
[15:48] <zykotick9> !ot > chris_in_regina
[15:48] <martian> Guest85743: this may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:48] <deej1976> Guest85743: 1672 nicks
[15:48] <theadmin> zykotick9: You know, I suggest using | rather than > for ubottu, there's no point in pming people randomly
[15:48] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[15:49] <sandra_> I trust you are doing well
[15:49] <zykotick9> theadmin, they had just PMed me ;)  so i knew they could get them - i ususally do use |
[15:49] <Koenigsegg> linda: No. I'm using a window animation in Compiz, and that Screen locked window is included there. But the animation isn't really suited for a window that covers the whole screen(at least not on this computer..), so I'd like to exclude that window from the animation in compiz settings. But to do that I need to id it somehow.
[15:49] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Martian, I'm booted in, as I can just boot off the flash drive and have it initialize the installation on dev/sda1, is it possible to just install grub?
[15:50] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> It's ubuntu server
[15:50] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Shouldve mentioned that^^
[15:50] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: I have never had to do it myself, but I'm pretty sure that page I linked to explains how to do just that
[15:50] <luca> dear friends I have a problem with a form html i a file php
[15:50] <sandra_> I would like to ask if any of you are experiencing  glitches with Skype and staying connected with Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[15:50] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> I see thank you martian
[15:50] <linda> Koenigsegg: Someone else will have to answer your question on that.  I do not use compiz  and am not up on that sort of stuff.
[15:51] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: even thought it references windows, the topic is restoring a grub installation that was destroyed by windows (or in your case, that never existed)
[15:51] <Koenigsegg> linda: Thanks anyway :).
[15:51] <linda> sandra_: Is it dropping calls?  Or just disconnecting from the network?
[15:51] <linda> while not in a call....
[15:51] <bfreis> nebajoth, looks like it worked!
[15:52] <bfreis> nebajoth, it took *forever* to boot though...
[15:52] <linda> I use skype but on my 10.04 PC not on the 11.10 one, and it never seems to have a problem, but again, that is on 10.04
[15:53] <darbe> hi
[15:53] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Martian, it seems as though my actual hdd isn't mounted?
[15:53] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Http://pastebin.com/R1Pwpb1L
[15:53] <Dante_> do i need gtk-3 for gnome3 ??
[15:53] <sandra_> Well linda my skype seems to work well for  a few minutes then my call will drop and then my wireless connection drops I'm currently on Xubuntu and seem to be doing well which seems all the more confusing lol
[15:53] <theadmin> Dante_: Duh
[15:54] <nebajoth> bfreis: booting time on usb can take a while, especially if its a slow USB stick
[15:54] <sandra_> linda_: natty 11.10 seems to run w/out a hitch as far as skype goes.
[15:54] <linda> sandra_: Sounds like it's a network problem on the LAN
[15:54] <Dante_> well im building the gnome3 packages from source for my ubuntu 10.04 and there is one gtk-3 source file too , do i need to build it too ??
[15:54] <grendal-prime> is gnome3 going to be an option in ubuntu? cause i hate unity
[15:55] <zykotick9> !notunity | grendal-prime
[15:55] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: looks to me like your 550G drive is mounted on /
[15:55] <sandra_> linda_: it only happens when on 11.10  and never happens on 11.04
[15:55] <linda> sandra_: May be that it is dropping the connection to the AP on your LAN
[15:56] <hrolf> Why would I require "Important Security Updates" from unauthenticated sources?
[15:56] <sandra_> linda_: I was wondering if anyone else was suffering from these odd glitches in 11.10
[15:57] <linda> sandra_: You might try look at the wireless signal and settings, see if it is due to dropping connection to the LAN, which I just about imagine is the problem.
[15:57] <Scarra3> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 how do I tell what graphics card my OS is using?
[15:57] <linda> sandra_: YOu are 64bit?
[15:57] <zykotick9> Scarra3, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[15:57] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Martian, right, but how do I specify that drive when using grub-install /dev/XXX
[15:58] <Dante_> well im building the gnome3 packages from source for my ubuntu 10.04 and there is one gtk-3 source file too , do i need to build it to
[15:58] <Dante_> ??
[15:58] <martian> GuyWhoNeedsHelpD: I'm not really sure I'm afraid. I've never really had to deal with this sorta thing :)
[15:58] <Scarra3> and how do I run .run files threw the terminal
[15:58] <sandra_> linda_: I did check but as I said my windows 7 Linuxmint 11.04 and Ubuntu 11.04 work fine with skype w/out any problems. The problem only occurs with Oneiric 11.10
[15:59] <zykotick9> Dante_, because of your current decision - your issue is no longer #ubuntu related, you shouldn't expect much (if any) support here - and should seek Gnome support directly.
[15:59] <linda> sandra_: 64bit?  or 32?
[15:59] <Dante_> ummm... okay
[16:00] <linda> Scarra3: ls -l  filename.run  #And see if the executable bit is set.
[16:00] <linda> Scarra3: If so, just like any other executable file.
[16:00] <sandra_> linda_: I'm currently on Xubuntu 11.10 which seems to work fine too which is why I'm at a loss in regards Ubuntu 11.10 having problems with skype and intermittent connection loss. I'm  on 64 bit edition.
[16:01] <zykotick9> Scarra3, "./filename.run" once it's executable ("chmod +x filename.run" if it isn't)
[16:01] <grendal-prime> thanks man...the problem im having right now is that the machine that has 11.10 on it ..does not have a very good video card in it (onboard) and no place to put one.
[16:02] <grendal-prime> I cant get it to display anything but 600X800  but i dont need the  compiz stuff
[16:02] <linda> sandra_: Well, the only differnece in xubuntu is the windowmanager is xfce instead of unity and I doubt that would have an effect on skype
[16:02] <grendal-prime> in 10.04 it has some more options for screen resolution.
[16:02] <linda> I could be wrong but....
[16:02] <klonkr> Can anyone help me regarding xrandr and also with aplay? I wonder how i output to my TV through hdmi, well, ive got this working but its mirroring, how do i add a screen? Also, how do i send all audio to it? I can, with aplay, send a secific audiofiles output to it, but how do i send all audio?
[16:03] <linda> klonkr: See man xrandr
[16:04] <klonkr> linda: I did, maybe it's the language barrier, am I looking for panning?
[16:04] <GuyWhoNeedsHelpD> Anyone have any idea as to how to install grub onto the main harddrive rather than booting off of a flash drive?
[16:04] <Scarra3> alright well I booted ubuntu and the screen got all choppy
[16:04] <klonkr> linda: What's a second non-mirroring screen called?
[16:04] <sandra_> linda_: that's why I wondering if anyone else was having any issues with Oneiric 11.10. Oh how I wish Ubuntu would just bring back the classic menu for those of us who think Unity was huge mistake for desktop use. lol
[16:05] <Bisu[Shield]> how do you get firefox native titlebar and borders as opposed to the system's
[16:05] <Bisu[Shield]> I am using gnome 3
[16:05] <klonkr> sandra_: I agree, and choose another distro :)
[16:05] <linda> klonkr: in xrandr it will just be identified by the output device, far as I know...
[16:06] <sandra_> klonkr_: what distro are you currently using ?
[16:06] <ubuntu__> sex!
[16:06] <linda> sandra_: Sounds like you are a good candidate for xfce.   For me anway, I like a window manager that stays out of my way.
[16:08] <sandra_> I did look at KDE and found it very interesting
[16:08] <linda> BluesKaj: But KDE is good to.  Three best ones are gnome2 xfce and KDE  IMHO
[16:09] <BluesKaj> linda, I have no probs with kwin ...works fine from a home user POV
[16:09] <linda> gnome3 has gone into lala land for now.... may be back with us soon but for now, it is a bit too far out for most of our likings.
[16:09] <grendal-prime> used kde for a loooong time...the kio slave is kick ass
[16:10] <linda> I admit KDE 4x is very nice.
[16:10] <sandra_> In my opinion gnome 3 and unity where not a well thought project sadly they seem to have bypassed the wishes of the average end user.
[16:10] <bfreis> nebajoth, damn, I can't boot actually
[16:10] <sandra_> oops thought out..
[16:10] <sandra_> just call me the typo queen
[16:11] <Tobe> can someone please help me. My microphone is always on and i dont have any programs on that require it to be on. when i try to mute it with (alsamixer) it works, but then i cannot use it with my chat programs
[16:11] <sandra_> linda: what distro are you currently using ?
[16:11] <`Viper> en
[16:11] <linda> sandra_: I think the idea behind unity was to simplify things and keep the window manager out of the way.  In some ways they missed the mark.  BUT, it is new!  And WILL be improved.  We just have to see what the future brings.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> sandra_, we have alot of ppl disappointed in the latest ubuntu desktop direction , joining Kubuntu for relief
[16:12] <bfreis> I'm trying to boot the live image of Ubuntu Cloud Infrastructure on a USB stick, but it shows tons of /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found, then drops to BusyBox and sans (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. Any ideas?
[16:12] <theadmin> linda: Hey um, mind if I pm you?
[16:12] <linda> Unity is not THAT bad really.
[16:12] <savagetiger> Tobe: Is it a USB mic? then usually you can not turn it off, unless it has a hardware switch
[16:12] <linda> theadmin: sure
[16:12] <theadmin> linda: Well, actually I already did but haven't gotten any reply
[16:13] <Tobe> savagetiger: no its the kind that plugs into the back of the pc with the jack thing.
[16:13] <Bisu[Shield]> how do you get firefox native titlebar and borders as opposed to the system's.  I am using gnome 3  <-- AM I INVISIBLE?
[16:13] <zykotick9> Bisu[Shield], we read you
[16:13] <savagetiger> In that case there is no on or off, its just picking up noise and sending it to the Soundcard, its standard behaviour actually
[16:14] <theadmin> Bisu[Shield]: Do you mean... Well, honestly, it's a Windows-only thing (that special titlebar with built-in tabs)
[16:14] <rumpe1> Bisu[Shield], install gnome-tweak-tool and configure it in there
[16:14] <Bisu[Shield]> hmmm chrome looks the same on windows and ubuntu, is that not possible with firefox?
[16:14] <savagetiger> Unless you hear yourself through the speakers or headphone, in that case your soundrouting is not configured right :)
[16:15] <Bisu[Shield]> how would gnome-tweak-tool help?
[16:15] <Bisu[Shield]> I have it installed
[16:15] <jerenept> Bisu: it is possible, but chrome uses nonstandard display system.
[16:21] <fornix> my ubuntu 11.10 seems sluggish. top command gives ksoftirqd using 100% CPU http://pastebin.com/KcAUYa3B Why is it using all my CPU ?
[16:23] <dssdsd> :)
[16:23] <dssdsd> :D
[16:23] <dssdsd> :(
[16:25] <rhizmoe> why is there such a delay when i open a directory in nautilus? seems to be a lot of perpetual disk scanning.
[16:25] <dssdsd> (A)
[16:25] <dssdsd> (L)
[16:25] <rhizmoe> bored?
[16:26] <dssdsd> (6)
[16:26] <Naked89> How to install libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) in ubuntu10.04?
[16:27] <Kim4x> fornix:  cat /proc/interrupts
[16:27] <Naked89> How to install libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) in ubuntu10.04?
[16:27] <rhizmoe> Naked89: looks like it's in qt4-x11
[16:27] <rhizmoe> Naked89: and don't repeat every minute
[16:28] <Naked89> rhizmoe: What does that mean>
[16:28] <rhizmoe> it means you pasted your question again right after asking it
[16:29] <azertyii> hello there
[16:29] <azertyii> cut is what's for ?
[16:29] <Naked89> rhizmoe: I thought nobody have seen my q.
[16:29] <rhizmoe> Naked89: why, because it wasn't answered instantly?
[16:29] <llutz> azertyii: type "whatis cut"
[16:30] <fornix> Kim4x: just a moment
[16:30] <azertyii> what is cut ?
[16:30] <rhizmoe> man cut
[16:30] <azertyii> ok what is cut ?
[16:30] <azertyii> yes man
[16:30] <llutz> azertyii: in a terminal, thats a command
[16:30] <akSeya> hi folks :)
[16:30] <rhizmoe> azertyii: good one, beavis
[16:30] <azertyii> you don't know ?
[16:30] <azertyii> yes of course it is a command
[16:30] <rhizmoe> azertyii: you've been answered
[16:30] <fergaw> Hi. I'm looking for some nice subtitle editor. It would be nice if it would run in console, dont need any GUI.
[16:30] <llutz> azertyii: stop trolling
[16:31] <fornix> Kim4x: http://pastebin.com/3UzYWSi2 is the output of cat /proc/interrupts
[16:31] <Dante_> hii fellas
[16:31] <akSeya> offtopic question.. "lol" means "laughing out loud". Do people use it to say they are laughing loud or like laughing without reason?!
[16:32] <llutz> akSeya: most just use it without reason, just to show "hey look, i'm dumb"
[16:32] <rhizmoe> akSeya: urban dictionary is thataway ->
[16:32] <rhizmoe> it will educate you to the nuances of the english internet language
[16:34] <Dante_> :P
[16:34] <urthmover> I'm installing 11.10 using a minimal install.  The Kernel to install section has many choices.  What is the difference between linux-server and linux-image-3.0.0-13-server ?
[16:35] <llutz> isn't "inux-server " just a meta package pulling latest PAE-kernel (actually linux-image-3.0.0-13-server)?
[16:38] <Sanus> Okay.  I'm back.
[16:38] <Sanus> And...
[16:39] <Sanus> 10.04 is -not- detecting any of my drivers.
[16:39] <Dante_> wb sanus
[16:39] <Dante_> you mean sound driver ??
[16:39] <Sanus> No wireless connection (It's a laptop), no video drivers, (Radeon HD 6350 or thereabouts)
[16:39] <Sanus> I haven't heard any sounds either.
[16:40] <Dante_> is it dell ??
[16:40] <Dante_> what wireless chipset you got ??
[16:40] <Sanus> HP Compaq Presario cq57
[16:40] <Dante_> broadcom or atheros ??
[16:40] <Sanus> One moment.
[16:40] <Dante_> ok
[16:40] <Sanus> Realtek semiconductor...?
[16:41] <Dante_> thats your sound card i guess ...
[16:41] <Sanus> Can't even enable desktop effects.
[16:41] <Sanus> Nope, ethernet
[16:41] <Dante_> im asking the wireless
[16:41] <Sanus> I know.
[16:41] <Sanus> It's the ethernet and wireless card.
[16:41] <sandra_> linda: do you mind if I ask what it is you do for a living ?
[16:41] <Sanus> Semiconductor doesn't necessarily mean sound.
[16:42] <van7hu> hi folks
[16:42] <Sanus> It literally says "Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Divice 8176 (rev 01)"
[16:42] <Dante_> i know ...
[16:42] <van7hu> is there a way to disable "executable space protector" in ubuntu?
[16:42] <Dante_> well atheros drivers works fine with ubuntu but broadcom are blacklisted ...
[16:42] <Dante_> u need to remove the blacklist if u got broadcom
[16:43] <Dante_> goto system admin and hardware drivers ...
[16:43] <Sanus> No proprietary drivers.
[16:43] <gladosv2> hi guys, what is a good program to burn dvd's in ubuntu? documentation is terribly outdated :(
[16:43] <Dante_> you did a system update ??
[16:43] <Sanus> Yes.
[16:43] <sandra_> odd broadcom is a very popular networking chip I wonder why Ubuntu would black list it ?
[16:44] <Dante_> brasero disk burner
[16:44] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  you mean to CREATE movie dvd's from avi files? or to burn dvd iso images? or make dvd data disks
[16:44] <Chotaz`Work> Is it possible to check the ongoing File Operations on the terminal?
[16:44] <Kim4x> fornix: I really don't know. You should try to analyse with  "cat /proc/interrupts" which service is taking so many ressources
[16:44] <Sanus> ?
[16:44] <gladosv2> movie dvd's from avi files, yes, dr_willis
[16:44] <Dante_> well .. it still is ...
[16:44] <Sanus> What about the disk burner?
[16:44] <zykotick9> gladosv2, check out devede
[16:44] <dr_willis> gladosv2:  i use devede normally for that. Its a bit basic. but it does exactly what i need.. a little weird to learn. but works decently well.
[16:44] <soreau> gladosv2: I second devede
[16:45] <Dante_> brasero disk burner
[16:45] <gladosv2> thanks, I'll check it out :)
[16:45] <Dante_> ^
[16:45] <gladosv2> I recall having problems with brasero, though
[16:45] <soreau> Dante_: You can't create dvd's from avi files with brasero
[16:45] <dr_willis> fun thing about devede. its writen in python. :) i was able to customize it some to be  better for my needs
[16:45] <soreau> dr_willis: interesting, I didn't know that
[16:45] <Chotaz`Work> Is it possible to check ongoing file operations from the shell?
[16:46] <AdvoWork> i think ive got a package on my system called ebox  how can I check, and remove it?
[16:46] <phlak_user> Chotaz`Work: yes
[16:46] <linda> apt-cache search ebox
[16:46] <Sanus> So, Lucid Lynx is not detecting any of my hardware.
[16:46] <dr_willis> ebox was renamed to somthng else i think
[16:46] <dr_willis> !info ebox
[16:46] <Sanus> And it's not updating for any drivers.
[16:46] <dr_willis> !ebox
[16:46] <Dante_> you need a video cd maker ??
[16:46] <phlak_user> Chotaz`Work: processes like cp, mv etc are visible in ps -fe
[16:46] <Chotaz`Work> phlak_user:  thanks =D
[16:47] <linda> sudo apt-get remove ebox
[16:47] <zykotick9> AdvoWork, to check if you have it installed use "dpkg -l | grep ebox"
[16:47] <Dante_> sanus what ubuntu version u use ??
[16:47] <Sanus> Dante_ Lucid Lynx
[16:48] <dr_willis> !lucid
[16:48] <Dante_> u can try upgrading .... i use 10.04 myself though
[16:48] <n4dsp> Hello
[16:48] <AdvoWork> zykotick9, yeah i do, can i completely remove it?
[16:49] <zykotick9> AdvoWork, it's "optional" so that's up to you.
[16:49] <n4dsp> Running 11.04 ,,,,how and can I download Google Earth?
[16:49] <dr_willis> !googleearth
[16:49] <Dante_> n4dsp ... apt-get install googleearth
[16:50] <dr_willis> !info googleearth
[16:50] <Dante_> :)
[16:50] <gladosv2> !multiverse
[16:50] <dr_willis> !info googleearth-package
[16:50] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, heh..google earth will install , but good luck trying to launch it ...it just times out here even with the lsb-core files installed
[16:50] <dr_willis> havent tried it in ages.
[16:50] <n4dsp> will give it a try. thanks
[16:52] <Dante_> anyone here tried installing gnome3 on ubuntu LTS ??
[16:52] <dr_willis> one way to break a system :)
[16:52] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, google maps dos the job now ...it's almost as good as aworking google earth , even has the street view option
[16:52] <soreau> The fonts in google earth here are HUGE. Any idea how to fix it?
[16:53] <dr_willis> BluesKaj:  i use my android phone 99% of the time now.
[16:53] <james538227> hey has anyone had much luck installing a wireless driver on a headless ubuntu server especially  the RT2860 ralink driver?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, cool :)
[16:53] <klonkr> Can anyone help me with aplay? I want to output sound over hdmi and Im able to do so with "aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" But is it possible to send all audio with a sinple command?
[16:54] <Dante_> de_willis :what if you build the packages from the source for your system and then install it ??
[16:54] <dr_willis> klonkr:  checked the settings in pavcontrol yet?
[16:54] <dr_willis> Dante_:  i imagine that will break just as badly...
[16:54] <dr_willis> since the packages are 'built from the source' ...
[16:54] <santanuc> hi
[16:55] <dr_willis> how would it be differnt then allready made packages.
[16:55] <klonkr> dr_willis: I run arch and dont have that installed
[16:55] <AdvoWork> zykotick9, dpkg -l | grep ebox lists loads of packages but sudo apt-get remove ebox says it doesnt exist. Any ideas?
[16:55] <santanuc> is there any version of ubuntu to run on tablets like Galaxy Tab?
[16:55] <dr_willis> klonkr:  no idea on arch. pavcontol is part of the pulse audio tools
[16:55] <Dante_> well u need resources to build the packages ... and the packages will be build according to the resources available on my system ...
[16:55] <BluesKaj> klonkr, yeah make your hdmi out Card 0 or default device in alsa.conf
[16:56] <dr_willis> santanuc:  not seen any... yet.
[16:56] <Dante_> not any other ...
[16:56] <Dante_> so it may work ...
[16:56] <dr_willis> Dante_:  i imagine theres some deeper reason for things breaking..
[16:56] <kool_tool> I just installed Ubuntu (64bit) 11.10 on my new PC. Both of my USB scanners worked after the installation (using simple scan); however, they don't after I run & install the 175 + updates. Presently, I re-installed 11.10 on my PC, and am not updating the PC. Is there a work-around for this problem?
[16:56] <klonkr> BluesKaj: but i dont want it to be default, this is my laptop and i just need to be albe to switch to hdmi output sometiems
[16:57] <zykotick9> AdvoWork, you need the specific package name from the "dpkg -l" output, but it looks like the package name is "ebox" (sorry difficult for me to see, as it's not an included package on my non-ubuntu distro)
[16:57] <Dante_> well there is a high possibilty that my gnome2 may completely collapse with gnome3 not even working ...
[16:57] <Dante_> but it's worth a shot ;)
[16:57] <dr_willis> Dante_:  i dont find it worth the effort.. you been asking about this for some time now.. why havent you allready done it?
[16:57] <Dante_> i wanna see how will it respond ...
[16:57] <yrlnry> In KDE, is there a way to change the title of a single window?
[16:58] <Dante_> coz im building the packages right now and installing a virtual machine with ubuntu 10.04
[16:58] <Dante_> i will test it there first ...
[16:58] <Dante_> im not that crazy :S
[16:58] <Dante_> :P
[16:58] <dr_willis> Dante_:  now if you installed Kubuntu, in the vm.. then well it might work...
[16:58] <new2net> How do I change my hostname correctly?  I did it with `sudo hostname newhostname` about two weeks ago but it didn't work, some things are still recognizing my old hostname, some things (terminal) recognize my new hostname.
[16:59] <dr_willis> assuming the breakage is from gnome conflicts
[16:59] <zykotick9> !hostname | new2net
[16:59] <Dante_> yeps ...
[16:59] <BluesKaj> klonkr, pls explain "all audio" do you mean pcm/spdif ?
[16:59] <new2net> zykotick9, Oh wow... I would have never guessed that. Thanks
[17:00] <dr_willis> klonkr:  you are running arch linux right now on it?
[17:00] <zykotick9> new2net, be SURE to change in both files!  that sudo "may not work properly" means sudo won't work!
[17:00] <AdminSetup> Hi....Can I install Ubuntu on a tablet ?
[17:00] <Dante_> well it's easy to change login sessions from gdm but how you do that in xserver ??
[17:00] <dr_willis> AdminSetup:  ive not seen any tablet roms with ubuntu made into them..
[17:01] <new2net> zykotick9, hehe ;) i will make sure to do it like how ubottu told me
[17:01] <klonkr> BluesKaj: I'm not sure what that is, but what I want to do is to send video and audio (movie) over hdmi to my TV and keep my defaults to my laptop
[17:01] <klonkr> dr_willis: yea
[17:01] <dr_willis> klonkr:  if you are using arch linux, then you should be asking in their channel, and checking their decently done faq/wiki pages.
[17:01] <michele> !list
[17:01] <michele> !list
[17:02] <klonkr> BluesKaj: the video part is fixed, easily done with xandr and some flags, but I'm not able to get the sound going
[17:02] <dr_willis> when i plug my laptop into hdmi in ubuntu with gnome. it switches over to the monitor automaticially last i tried it.
[17:02] <dr_willis> well i may have to hit the laptops fn-monitor keys. :)
[17:03] <klonkr> dr_willis: thanks but i've read all there is to read about this in their wiki (and i got video working, yay). Will try to channel, thanks!
[17:03] <santanuc> hi is there any version of ubuntu for tablets like Galaxy Tab
[17:03] <dr_willis> im not sure why you were trying #ubuntu when you were running arch.. the 2 disrtos are about as differnt as they can be. :)
[17:04] <shanky> hi, I wrongly removed /etc/nginx
[17:04] <dr_willis> !find /etc/nginx
[17:04] <klonkr> dr_willis: hehe yea I know, but the command aplay should work the same
[17:04] <dr_willis> klonkr:  ubuntu and gnome use pulse audio.. thus the use of pavcontrol
[17:04] <shanky> dr_willis: thanks
[17:04] <RiceKing> I want the old screen saver menu with the bunch of screensavers back.  How can I without crewing things up?  I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[17:04] <saimanoj> hello everyone.
[17:04] <saimanoj> Is the new patch of the Linux Kernel regarding ASPM problem is being added to precise?
[17:05] <jrib> !precise | saimanoj
[17:05] <llutz> shanky: get the nginx.deb and then: sudo dpkg --force-confmiss -i package.deb
[17:05] <shanky> llutz: that did not work, it was due to nginx-common, it is working now thanks to dr_willis
[17:05] <RiceKing> Ayone?
[17:05] <jrib> shanky: nginx-common according to ubottu.  You should just be able to do something like: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install nginx-common
[17:05] <Jragon> Hi
[17:06] <shanky> jrib: thanks
[17:06] <Dante_> how can u unzip all the tar.bz2 files in a folder ...
[17:06] <Dante_> ??
[17:06] <santanuc> i want to uninstall android and run ubuntu on Galaxy Tab. is it possible?
[17:06] <jrib> Dante_: for loop
[17:06] <Jragon> For some reason my keyboard is not on the British English layout, how can I fix this?
[17:06] <Dante_> huh
[17:06] <murfie> for t in *.tar.bz2; do tar xjf $p; done
[17:06] <Gentoo64> Jragon, setxkbmap gb
[17:06] <murfie> eh, $t
[17:07] <jrib> Jragon: you can also just use the keyboard preferences application
[17:07] <Gentoo64> ^ sorry
[17:07] <Dante_> thanks a lot .. :)
[17:07] <Gentoo64> i assumed hed tried thta
[17:07] <jrib> "$t"
[17:07] <Jragon> Thanks very much Gentoo64
[17:07] <marcin_m> Hi how can i obtain in 11.10 suare layout of virtual pulpits not 4 screens in one line, when i switch the pulpits
[17:07] <Gentoo64> Jragon, did you try the keyboard prefernnces?
[17:08] <marcin_m> ?
[17:08] <Jragon> No
[17:08] <Gentoo64> Jragon, you should be able to add a layout
[17:08] <zykotick9> jrib, hopefully .tar.bz2 files won't have spaces in them ;)
[17:08] <Gentoo64> Jragon, use the preferences instead
[17:09] <beterraba> Hi.On a minimal installation what should i install first; LXDE or LightDM? Do i need to install any X before that?
[17:09] <Gentoo64> doesnt matter
[17:10] <beterraba> Gentoo64: doesn't Xorg?
[17:10] <Jragon> When ever I boot Ubuntu I have my external HDD plugged in, but I have to take it out and re-plug it in, to mount it... How can I automatically mount it?
[17:11] <beterraba> oops
[17:11] <Gentoo64> beterraba, lxde should pull in xorg though
[17:11] <Gentoo64> beterraba, install xorg then lxde then lightdm
[17:11] <Gentoo64> for the sake of it
[17:11] <beterraba> Gentoo64: doesn´t matter LXDE or LightDM. How about X?
[17:11] <Gentoo64> no it doesnt matter what order i mean
[17:11] <beterraba> Gentoo64: thanks so much
[17:12] <Gentoo64> Jragon, add it to fstab
[17:12] <beterraba> Gentoo64: just apt-get install xorg? (sorry)
[17:12] <Jragon> What's fstab?
[17:12] <Gentoo64> beterraba, im not sure the name
[17:12] <Gentoo64> beterraba, apt-cache search xorg
[17:12] <beterraba> Gentoo64: it's ok. thank you!
[17:12] <Gentoo64> probably xorg-server
[17:12] <santanuc> Jragon: u need to have a /etc/fstab entry for the filesystem on ur drive
[17:12] <zykotick9> !fstab | Jragon
[17:12] <zykotick9> Jragon, will you ALWAYS have the external attached?
[17:13] <Jragon> No
[17:13] <Jragon> But most of the time
[17:13] <zykotick9> Jragon, then you might not want to use fstab, or use the noauto option.  Good luck.
[17:13] <Jragon> Okay
[17:13] <Jragon> How can I mount a .cue file?
[17:14] <santanuc> Jragon: then put a mount entry in .profile or .bash_login
[17:14] <zykotick9> Jragon, you can't.  You can try to convert it to ISO but that will fail for many disk image types (especially ones in bin/cue format)
[17:14] <Jragon> Can I mount a .bin then?
[17:15] <zykotick9> Jragon, nope - see above
[17:15] <raheel> how we can change buttons of close and minimize to right side?
[17:15] <Jragon> What can I do to fix this then?
[17:15] <zykotick9> !controls | raheel
[17:16] <Artemis3> Jragon, install a package called acetoneiso
[17:16] <zykotick9> Jragon, Artemis3's suggestion might work
[17:16] <rockbadger2> I'm running mythweb on ubuntu with static IP address. From another computer it works completely fine, so there is a working network connection. However, on the Ubuntu machine, I can't get internet for Firefox/synaptic etc. - any ideas/links?
[17:17] <zykotick9> rockbadger2, see if you have /etc/resolv.conf with valid DNS server inso
[17:17] <zykotick9> s/inso/info/
[17:17] <rhizmoe> you would also need a default gateway
[17:18] <zykotick9> rockbadger2, are you using Network Manager or the interfaces file to set static?
[17:18] <beterraba> Gentoo64: both LXDE and LightDM pull X packages. thanks for your help. :)
[17:18] <Gentoo64> ok
[17:19] <rockbadger2> someone else set it up - last time I used it it was working, but someone may have changed settings when setting up the static ip
[17:19] <Gentoo64> well cat /etc/network/interfaces
[17:19] <rockbadger2> i suspect they would have used network manager though
[17:20] <ubernoob> hi
[17:20] <Gentoo64> hi
[17:20] <santanuc> hi
[17:21] <zykotick9> rockbadger2, in that case you need to investigate the N-M settings for DNS/default gateway then - sorry I haven't used N-M for a while so not sure what you should be looking for, BUT N-M is going to overwrite resolv.conf so checking that is useless.  Good luck.
[17:21] <ubernoob> anyone here use geeqie? I'm trying to configure it so that I can launch pdfs in document viewer, when I use the thumbnails view of geeqie. I can't seem to find any way of doing this...
[17:22] <rockbadger2> thanks all
[17:23] <zykotick9> ubernoob, my geeqie doesn't seem to support PDFs at all
[17:24] <ubernoob> zykotick9, not even to the extent of firing off another program to handle the actual file?
[17:24] <ubernoob> wow, I didn't expect that at all
[17:24] <ubernoob> what's a good general thumbnail viewer then? something that's sort of equivalent to Adobe Bridge?
[17:24] <zykotick9> ubernoob, mine doesn't even show the PDF (but we are probably using different versions, so yours is probably different)
[17:25] <Dante_> how can i build a .deb file from a source file ??
[17:25] <Gentoo64> ubernoob, what about eog
[17:25] <ubernoob> zykotick9, mine didn't either, I had to root around in the preferences to get filters off and to display hidden files
[17:25] <Gentoo64> ubernoob, or feh
[17:25] <Gentoo64> eog is nice
[17:26] <ubernoob> Gentoo64, I've never heard of either (as the name implies, I'm a newbie). Thanks for that. I'll install both and see how I get on with them.
[17:26] <Gentoo64> im pretty sure ubuntu comes with eog
[17:26] <Tahvok> hi there, i've been using openSUSE for about 5 years as a modern user, and recently moved to ubuntu. Is there any guide to move from one distribution to ubuntu?
[17:27] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, no
[17:27] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, apart from the package manager and some files, youll just learn as you go. should take less than a day
[17:28] <ubernoob> Gentoo64, oh? I definitely have to look around then 'cos I've installed geeqie just to use the thumbnails to view folders and sort through all the mess I have.
[17:28] <Tahvok> that is what i'm asking, just the beginning (package manager, some good known commands..)
[17:28] <searchfgold> I'm trying to install gtkmm2.0-dev so I can compile a program, does anyone know how to do that?
[17:28] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, apt-get instal to install
[17:28] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, apt-get remove or apt-get purge to remove. apt-cache search to search
[17:28] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | Dante_
[17:29] <zykotick9> searchfgold, see !checkinstall above as well
[17:29] <th^2> hello. im trying to set up sylpheed for gmail. is there any way to tell sypheed to download like 10 newest mails?
[17:29] <Dante_> thanks ... :)
[17:30] <searchfgold> Thanks, I didn't know about that. But I haven't even gotten to that point yet, it's a ./configure error.
[17:30] <Tahvok> another problem i have, install the video card driver (ati). in opensuse, i just added a repo, then installed two packages from it, called "fglrx" and another "ati - something.." is it the same for ubuntu? is there any guide?
[17:30] <Gentoo64> Tahvok, type in terminal jockey-gtk
[17:30] <Gentoo64> if you cant find it elsewhere
[17:30] <ubernoob> also, is vlc the best video player available? (it's very good and I have no complaints, just curious)
[17:31] <Gentoo64> it should manage the drivers in a gui
[17:31] <zykotick9> !ati | Tahvok
[17:31] <th^2> hello. im trying to set up sylpheed for gmail. is there any way to tell sypheed to download like 10 newest mails?
[17:31] <zykotick9> ubernoob, there is no best, it's what you find best.  VLC is OK, but "mplayer - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux"
[17:32] <BluesKaj> !patience | th^2
[17:32] <Tahvok> Gentoo64, zykotick9 : thanks for all the help!
[17:34] <raheel> how can I add new panel in ubuntu 11.10
[17:35] <theadmin> raheel: You can not.
[17:36] <james538227> hey, has anyone install rt2860 wireless driver on ubuntu server, i have installed the whole thing but need some points in setting ip/wep config
[17:36] <Lin-ZZzZ> !nounity
[17:36] <Qualia> I can't kill a process, it simply doesn't kill the program, the program is stuck (skype)
[17:36] <Qualia> What can i do ?
[17:37] <Rods_Tiger> I can't get gparted to start. I installed it, I start it, it asks for my password, I give it, it gives me a turning wheel for a short while, then nothing. Every time.
[17:38] <zykotick9> Rods_Tiger, try starting it from a terminal, and see if it gives any output - you might need gksudo to start it.
[17:38] <zykotick9> Qualia, do you know the exact PID or the exact process name?
[17:38] <Rods_Tiger> from a terminal I get this: /usr/sbin/gpartedbin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkmm-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:38] <Qualia> yes zykotick9
[17:39] <A|i3N> Hi! I've got lamp installed on one of the local machines, and also on the one I'm on now. On both computers there is a wordpress installation. When I go to the other computer's IP address, the main wordpress index comes up just fine. But when I try to go to wp-admin, it redirects me to wp-adming on *this* computer. I've tried stop apache2 on this machine and it just comes up with 404 so I'm guessing the problem is on the other computer? A
[17:39] <A|i3N> nyone know what causes this?
[17:39] <Rods_Tiger> but surely it's just supposed to work when I click on the icon?
[17:39] <zykotick9> Qualia, basically use "kill -9 PID#" or "killall -9 PROCESSNAME" - don't start using -9 for everything though, you should ONLY use it after trying a regular kill/killall first
[17:39] <new2net> zykotick9, k. now im awake enough to try this
[17:40] <ubernoob> thanks all
[17:40] <ubernoob> bye
[17:40] <zykotick9> new2net, the hostname change - good luck (i'm sure you won't need it though)
[17:41] <new2net> zykotick9, so do I need to use "sudo hostname newHostName" to change it permanently or just edit the files mentioned?
[17:41] <Qualia> zykotick9, thank you kind sir. It worked.
[17:41] <Rods_Tiger> gparted is still not starting, either properly or through the terminal
[17:41] <zykotick9> new2net, don't worry about the hostname command - just change in both files and reboot
[17:41] <luist> hey guys i have a chroot to generate a livecd. i cant run update-initramfs -u to update the loading logo: http://pastie.org/2884835    im following this guide: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd-p2  (the liveCD is working already, just cant update the loading logo)
[17:41] <zykotick9> Qualia, nice
[17:42] <Rods_Tiger> everything is up to date
[17:43] <Rods_Tiger> never mind, I'll find another app if gparted doesn't work
[17:43] <new2net> zykotick9, so easy :)  gksu gedit /etc/hostname && gksu gedit /etc/hosts
[17:43] <zykotick9> new2net, yup ;)
[17:43] <sirjoebob> Hey all. I have a quick conundrum. I am away from work and need to be able to get to my ubuntu 11.10 box from home. I am connected with SSH but need to enable auto-login so I can access the vino VNC server. I am able to forward X11 over VNC but need actual vnc access to my box
[17:44] <dbolser> hihi
[17:44] <sirjoebob> I meant I can forward x11 over ssh
[17:44] <dbolser> what is the last version of ub to include gnome2, and where can I download it?
[17:45] <zykotick9> dbolser, if your looking for a supported distro with gnome2 i'd suggest debian stable - it'll have gnome2 for probably another year or more.
[17:45] <dbolser> zykotick9: IC
[17:46] <dbolser> and how about ubutu (no support obviously)
[17:46] <zykotick9> dbolser, or 10.04LTS
[17:46] <Artemis3> zykotick9, wheezy switched to gnome3 already... perhaps ubuntu 10.04 lts
[17:46] <dbolser> hmm
[17:46] <sirjoebob> Can anyone tell me how to enable automatic login on ubuntu 11.10 from command line only?
[17:46] <Lin-ZZzZ> damn you guiys type alot
[17:46] <Rods_Tiger> I can't find another partition editor other than gparted, which doesn't work.
[17:47] <Lin-ZZzZ> !nounity
[17:47] <Lin-ZZzZ> !nounity
[17:47] <zivester> how does one exit fullscreen mode with vncviewer?
[17:47] <dbolser> The devs go to all this troube to support the blind, deaf, mobility impaired and so on, but the anally retentive need support too (i.e. don't keep changing things) ;-)
[17:47] <Artemis3> Rods_Tiger, gdisk is worth if you don't mind cli
[17:47] <Rods_Tiger> gdisk? Ok, I'll try
[17:47] <dbolser> zivester: shift-alt-f11 or something
[17:48] <dbolser> ctrl-shift-backspace...
[17:48] <Jragon> How do I mount my windows drivE#?
[17:48] <new2net> zykotick9, worked... but now unity is kind of odd... is there any way to adjust screen resolution/position for unity?
[17:48] <hrolf> How can I use k3b to create an iso image of a CD ?
[17:48] <Rods_Tiger> gdisk is no use, it can't resize
[17:49] <Jragon> Sorry, how can I mount my windows partition
[17:49] <Guest52766> I just installed openssh-client and server
[17:49] <Jragon> It's in sda1
[17:49] <Artemis3> Rods_Tiger, is parted failing?
[17:49] <Guest52766> But still i can't login to the pc
[17:49] <zivester> yah i dont want to enter it because i will have to hard reset my comp again.. because i dont know how to kill it
[17:49] <Rods_Tiger> gparted doesn't start at all
[17:49] <dbolser> zykotick9: is 10:04 (with gnome 2) debian only, or is that a ubuntu release too?
[17:49] <Guest52766> and i have forwared port 22 too
[17:49] <Artemis3> Rods_Tiger, parted is the cli only
[17:49] <zykotick9> dbolser, Ubuntu 10.04LTS is an ubuntu release
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: that comes with gnome 2?
[17:50] <dbolser> Guest52766: which server?
[17:50] <zykotick9> dbolser, yup, no unity at all there
[17:50] <dbolser> the_holstar: which server?
[17:50] <the_holstar> openssh-server
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: ty
[17:50] <th^2> how do i change lubuntu login wallpaper?
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: can I download that somewhere official?
[17:50] <new2net> zykotick9, nevermind.. I got it :) perfect ^_^
[17:50] <zykotick9> dbolser, yup ubuntu.com
[17:50] <Artemis3> dbolser, debian squeeze is the last one with gnome2, but once wheezy becomes the new stable... well i suppose the time old-stable lasts
[17:50] <dbolser> zykotick9: ty
[17:51] <dbolser> 12:50 < Artemis3> dbolser, debian squeeze is the last one with gnome2, but once
[17:51] <dbolser> sorry
[17:51] <dbolser> I meant to say, Artemis3, I'm scared to try Debian
[17:51] <pikaciu> Jragon: it doesn't show in Nautilus side bar ?
[17:51] <ragnarok> Question: i installed an ubuntu 10.10 dvdrom and run apt-get update, upgrade, dist -upgrade. All done. I get a notification from package manager to update to ubuntu 11.04. i run it and it gets packages. WTF?
[17:51] <dbolser> I feel I should stick to ubuntu
[17:51] <Jragon> No, pikaciu
[17:51] <dbolser> really I'm looking for good vmware 'unity' linux (different unity)
[17:52] <Artemis3> dbolser, as you wish, i suggest 10.04lts then... but seriously consider moving to xubuntu/lubuntu
[17:52] <dbolser> yeah... I'm in love with gnome 2 though
[17:52] <Rods_Tiger> never mind, nothing works
[17:52] <dbolser> xbuntu... what is it... xfce, it's nice, but its not gnome2
[17:52] <Artemis3> dbolser, sadly, the gnome developers decided to end that project so...
[17:52] <luist> hey guys i have a chroot to generate a livecd. i cant run update-initramfs -u to update the loading logo: http://pastie.org/2884835    im following this guide: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd-p2  (the liveCD is working already, just cant update the loading logo)
[17:53] <dbolser> Artemis3: they don't support asburgers spectrum disorders ;-)
[17:54] <dbolser> I can't find a url for 10:04 on ubuntu.com
[17:54] <dbolser> only a fancy downloader that lists two options
[17:54] <pikaciu> Jragon:  you have to mount it in /mnt
[17:54] <Jragon> How?
[17:54] <dbolser> Jragon: man mount
[17:54] <ragnarok> Question: i installed an ubuntu 10.10 dvdrom and run apt-get update, upgrade, dist -upgrade. All done. I get a notification from package manager to update to ubuntu 11.04. i run it and it gets packages. WTF?
[17:54] <dbolser> Jragon: there may be a fancier way though
[17:54] <Artemis3> dbolser, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[17:54] <zivester> ya, so anyone know how to exist tightvnc fullscreen on ubuntu 11.10
[17:55]  * zivester exit*
[17:55] <dbolser> zivester: ctrl-shift-backspace?
[17:55] <dbolser> Artemis3: ty
[17:55] <theadmin> ragnarok: Well, you're upgrading to Natty now, so it has newer repos, and thus newer packages
[17:55] <zivester> that didn't work for me.. does that work for you?
[17:55] <dbolser> can't remember
[17:56] <sirjoebob> Is it possible to enable autologin for Ubuntu 11.10 from command line?
[17:57] <zykotick9> ragnarok, apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade stays on the same version, the update manager is now upgrading you to a new ubuntu as theadmin noted.
[17:57] <sKeiths> when i start my computer both my network card exist. but after a reboot one no longer exists. the ethX is missing, and the entry in lspci is missing too.
[17:57] <afro> hi
[17:57] <afro> how do I check wich port are in use and what prog are using them?
[17:58] <Dante_> nmap localhost
[17:58] <llutz> afro: sudo lsof -i
[17:58] <Dante_> afro or you can use nessus ...
[17:58] <Dante_> for more details
[17:58] <llutz> afro: or sudo  netstat -tulpen
[17:59] <Jragon> When ever i do a sudo command I get this: sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700
[18:00] <new2net> thats not good
[18:00] <zykotick9> Jragon, what is the output of "ls -ld /var/lib/sudo/"
[18:00] <Jragon> drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 1985-01-01 00:00 /var/lib/sudo/
[18:01] <zykotick9> Jragon, ya, that's world writable
[18:01] <llutz> Jragon: sudo chmod 700 /var/lib/sudo/
[18:03] <Jragon> Okay thanks
[18:04] <trism> sirjoebob: if you are using lightdm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-with-lightdm (see the second answer)
[18:04] <theadmin> !find slim
[18:04] <theadmin> !info slim
[18:04] <theadmin> yay, available :D
[18:05] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[18:06] <Dante_> !info fatrat
[18:06] <sirjoebob> trism:  I don't have a lightdm folder in /etc
[18:06] <Shwaiil> Q: In Mac OSX there's a panel / widget that let us change current program we're on. Can I find that for Ubuntu too ? whats the name ? Tks for looking
[18:07] <pikaciu> Jragon: what's the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[18:07] <Dante_> !info jondo
[18:07] <trism> sirjoebob: then probably not using lightdm
[18:07] <sirjoebob> truism: I believe I am still using gdm
[18:07] <Dante_> !info prism
[18:07] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  current 'program' meaning what?
[18:07] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Um, it's on the left, the panel?
[18:08] <dbolser> ty all
[18:08] <Dante_> !info nmap
[18:08] <Shwaiil> dr_willis, theadmin tks for looking. Its a hotkey feature that u can find in ubuntu and also in win7 I think. Shows u a panel with some programs that are already running, u simple have to choose the program u want, and it goes to it
[18:09] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Alt-tab?
[18:09] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  you mean alt-tab ?
[18:09] <theadmin> dr_willis: lol :D
[18:09] <Dante_> !info nessus
[18:09] <llutz> !botabuse > Dante_
[18:09] <era878> How can I install jscalibrator in Oneric?
[18:09] <trism> sirjoebob: the gdm admin guide: http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/3.2/configuration.html.en has information on configuring autologin in /etc/gdm/custom.conf but I haven't tried it recently
[18:09] <Shwaiil> ALT + TAB thanks =D
[18:09] <zykotick9> Dante_, could you please do that in PM
[18:09] <Shwaiil> didnt knew I had this by default
[18:09] <dr_willis> !find jscalibrator
[18:10] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  a rather standard key combo. :)
[18:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis, i think it's in joystick (but could be wrong)
[18:10] <Shwaiil> never used it :D pretty handy
[18:10] <era878> where can i find the source for jscalibrator?
[18:10] <sirjoebob> trism: I will try those out. Thanks for the guidance.
[18:10] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  i think its called somthing else these days..
[18:10] <Shwaiil> we have this in win too ? alt + tab ?! dr_willis
[18:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis, could be?
[18:10] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  have for like the last 10+ years...
[18:10] <Shwaiil> LOL
[18:10] <Shwaiil> never used it
[18:11] <panther3> hey guys & girls, i have a problem..care to help?
[18:11] <theadmin> panther3: Sure thing, just ask
[18:11] <Shwaiil> its called a task switch I see
[18:11] <zykotick9> Shwaiil, see if you can find a windows-selector somewhere (that's what it's called in gnome2 anyways)
[18:11] <era878> So how can I reconfigure a joystick without jscalibrator?
[18:12] <panther3> installed ubuntu dual boot yesterday, can seemingly connect to wireless network, but can't load any webpages, and connection is erratic. also, can't install any updates or drivers :-(
[18:12] <dr_willis> era878:  i think theres some other tools that d  the same job.
[18:12] <FlavioTrashPunk> hello
[18:12] <zykotick9> era878, jscal just calibrates axis - usually you configure controls in the program/game you're using
[18:12] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install joystick
[18:12] <dr_willis> and try jscal
[18:13] <theadmin> panther3: Can you ping anything?
[18:13] <dr_willis> is all ive ever used lately
[18:13] <panther3> haven't tried
[18:13] <pikaciu> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:13] <dr_willis> !info evtest
[18:13] <FlavioTrashPunk> #join lorea
[18:13] <dr_willis> jscal          jscal-restore  jscal-store    jstest
[18:13] <Shwaiil> Q: Is 11.10 ok ? any of you guys get woste to the new interface ?
[18:14] <dr_willis> Shwaiil:  its not that new. unity was out in 11.04
[18:14] <dr_willis> :)
[18:14] <theadmin> Shwaiil: I don't like Unity, but... XFCE's great everywhere :D
[18:14] <mang0> !package
[18:14] <pikaciu> yep :)
[18:14] <panther3> theadmin: got a load of text but can't really paste it as im on the laptop now and the desktop is where the problem is
[18:15] <theadmin> panther3: Well, does it ping it?
[18:15] <theadmin> panther3: I mean, is anything happening or do you just get an error like "No such host"?
[18:15] <Shwaiil> theadmin, I header about it. But does compiz work on it ?
[18:15] <Shwaiil> to have that neat effects
[18:15] <theadmin> Shwaiil: It does, but I'm fine without it
[18:15] <panther3> theadmin: no yeah something is happening...oh wait now it says 'destination host unreachable'
[18:15] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Compiz is desktop-independent. It works on anything.
[18:15] <theadmin> panther3: I see...
[18:16] <theadmin> panther3: Do you actually have an IP? Type "ifconfig", find wlan0 and see if you have one
[18:17] <Shwaiil> theadmin, I see. I'm now checking XFCE and this look light. I sugested my friend to install ubuntu, because he liked what he saw in my machine. but my version is 10.04 . He doesnt like "Unity", I'm wondering if XFCE is easy for him to install without any experience in ubuntu ?
[18:17] <panther3> theadmin: 'no command "ipconfig" found
[18:17] <pikaciu> ifconfig
[18:17] <theadmin> panther3: ...read carefully, it's iFconfig
[18:17] <panther3> theadmin: sorry, my bad
[18:17] <Shwaiil> theadmin, i'm asking this because I'm not finding it available in Software center
[18:17] <theadmin> Shwaiil: XFCE is, basically, a gnome2 clone :D
[18:17] <Gentoo64> ipconfig is windows afaik
[18:17] <Bisu[Shield]> how do I make port 3306 accessible to anyone with a username and password?
[18:17] <theadmin> Gentoo64: correct
[18:18] <panther3> theadmin: no mention of wlan0 but wlan2 is there
[18:18] <Shwaiil> theadmin, GNOME2, XFCE, UNITY, etc these are names for desktop-environments. Is that right ?
[18:18] <Gentoo64> panther3: try ifconfig -a
[18:18] <theadmin> panther3: Fine, does it have an IP?
[18:18] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Yeah.
[18:19] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Well, Unity is just a decoration ("shell") thing that runs on top of GNOME libraries, actually.
[18:19] <Shwaiil> So, if I want to know more about this. I can search for "Desktop-environments" for linux. Is that it ?
[18:19] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Correct, well, a few notable ones are: GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Openbox, E17 and, well, Unity.
[18:19] <Shwaiil> theadmin, so, its not a Desktop-environment. So, couldnt we download Ubuntu without it ? by default ?
[18:19] <jiltdil> Any one tried CLFS project?  If yes. I want some suggestion. Thanks
[18:19] <TaZeR> try gnome 3 guys its so cool once you customize it i feel like im from the future
[18:19] <Gentoo64> Shwaiil: yeah. the main ones are gnome,kde,xfce,lxde. then theres loads of window managers
[18:19] <panther3> theadmin: yes, i think so, 'inet addr: 192........'
[18:19] <theadmin> panther3: Sounds fine... hm, strange
[18:19] <panther3> :-(
[18:19] <Shwaiil> I like Gnome then
[18:20] <TaZeR> when my friends see my computer they say wow are you running a supercomputer mainframe i never seen this before!
[18:20] <Shwaiil> but i'll check KDE and the other
[18:20] <theadmin> Shwaiil: Gnome2 and gnome3 are completely different, but XFCE is like gnome2.
[18:20] <Gentoo64> Shwaiil: just type them into google images
[18:20] <Dante_> im trying to build a source but im getting this error :> configure: error: glib-compile-schemas not found. :/
[18:20] <pikaciu> i love the little mouse
[18:20] <korokos> Shwaiil, if you want to install ubuntu without any desktop manager then you should try minimal install or simly debian
[18:20] <Shwaiil> yeah, Gentoo64 currently seeing it :) I'm on 10.04, this means I'm on gnome2
[18:20] <Gentoo64> pikaciu: its a gutter rat
[18:20] <pikaciu> :S
[18:21] <panther3> theadmin: yesterday i tried sudo apt-get update and it seemed to be installing some updates from there, and then when i went back to the update manager the list seemed to have changed, and when i tried installing updates it said there wasn't enough memory..
[18:21] <Shwaiil> Is Gnome a copy of Mac Osx environment ?
[18:21] <korokos> is anyone recommend gnome 3 install on ubuntu 11.10 minimal?
[18:21] <Dante_> :S
[18:21] <Gentoo64> Shwaiil: no. eveyrone says that
[18:21] <theadmin> Shwaiil: No, Unity is
[18:21] <TaZeR> i like how i can click activities and i see a big thumbnail of my porno video on the side
[18:21]  * jiltdil unity gnome kde is far better than xfce
[18:21] <novaspirit> hey does anyone know of any window list manager for a horizontal panel for lucid
[18:21] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: :)
[18:21] <Dante_> first complete the minimal install by installing ubuntu-desktop
[18:21] <dr_willis> unity is not much like os-x either...
[18:22] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: not sure where theyre stored. chattr +i ~/.thumbnails
[18:22] <dr_willis> novaspirit:  theres various panel/windowlist tools and docks you can instgall.
[18:22] <Shwaiil> Unity doesnt look like mac osx :T gnome looks more like it I dunno :X
[18:22] <Dante_> im trying to build a source but im getting this error :> configure: error: glib-compile-schemas not found. :/
[18:22] <ragnarok> TaZeR: trololo
[18:22] <panther3> theadmin: but since then i had to reinstall ubuntu anyway because i tried to add memory to ubuntu partition but messed up windows partition in the proccess..not my finest hour
[18:22] <dr_willis> i dont think gnome looks like ox-s at all...
[18:22] <TaZeR> its ok i can just click to watch =)
[18:22] <Gentoo64> TaZeR: ah convenient
[18:22] <Gentoo64> thought you meant because of family members
[18:22] <ragnarok> convenient he says
[18:22] <ragnarok> ahahahaha
[18:22] <TaZeR> ragnarok im highlighting a very important feature to me
[18:22] <ragnarok> i get it
[18:23] <novaspirit> dr_willis would you happend to know names? i've used ones preinstalled with ubuntu but they mostly for vertial panel setup
[18:23] <ragnarok> dr_willis: any relation to bruce?
[18:23] <dr_willis> !dock
[18:23] <jiltdil> neither of  gnome or unity looks like mac os
[18:23] <dr_willis> novaspirit:  err.. i think you may be getting vertical and horizonal backwards..
[18:24] <novaspirit> hahah yea
[18:24] <Shwaiil> Q: How to check wish environment I have installed ?
[18:24] <dr_willis> most docks go across the bottom. :) many can do up/down.
[18:24] <Gentoo64> docky looks most mac like of them all
[18:24] <novaspirit> dr_willis: my mistake
[18:24] <dr_willis> theres some alterantve 'window selector' panels in the repos also..
[18:25] <mord> anyone with a g{53,74}sx: any blockers with ubuntu?
[18:25] <dr_willis> i forget the name - saw it the other day at an webupd8 blog. I might have it bookmarked at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:25] <dr_willis> mord:  im not sure anyone knows what you are talking about.
[18:26] <Dante_> lol
[18:26] <mord> dr_willis: i'm hoping if someone has a g53sx he/she recognises "g53sx"
[18:26] <novaspirit> you have alot of good stuff on your site dr_willis ! bookmarked
[18:27] <dr_willis> novaspirit:  yep. search the delicious tags also.. often better hits  then google.
[18:27] <pikaciu> dr_willis: which site ?
[18:27] <dr_willis>  bookmarked at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:27] <novaspirit> http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:28] <pikaciu> dr_willis: do you have some emacs tutorial ?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> this is my site http://linuxbachot.co.cc/
[18:29] <dr_willis> pikaciu:  nope. but i bet theres emacs tutorial taggs at delicious.com
[18:29] <pikaciu> ok
[18:29] <panther3> theadmin: ?
[18:30] <ragnarok> dr_willis: the troll patrol here yet?
[18:30] <dr_willis> huh?
[18:31] <panther3> can anyone help me? pretty pleeease
[18:31] <Gentoo64> panther3: whats the problem
[18:32] <panther3> Gentoo64: installed dual boot ubuntu about yesterday, will connect to wireless but web wont load, updates wont install and connection is erratic
[18:33] <Gentoo64> panther3: so it sometimes works?
[18:33] <Gentoo64> panther3: its probably the ubuntu wireless driver. i dont know anything about wireless myself but so many people complain about wireless cutting out with ubuntu
[18:33] <panther3> Gentoo64: no, it's the same always, but the connection cuts off and comes on again, although no matter what the internet wont load
[18:34] <novaspirit> panther3: /etc/resolv.conf not configured?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> panther3  same issue with a normal ethernet connection?
[18:34] <panther3> saying that, i just managed to install a driver for the first time
[18:34] <panther3> MonkeyDust: no ethernet wire i'm afraid
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> ethernet is the most normal, stable and fast connection
[18:35] <panther3> novaspirit: noob here, what does that entail?
[18:35] <novaspirit> panther3, that set your dns let me look up a code for you
[18:35] <panther3> MonkeyDust: unfortunately i live in a loft, router is downstairs
[18:36] <novaspirit> panther3: try sudo echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' > /etc/resolv.conf
[18:36] <novaspirit> this will put the nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> into the resolv.conf file telling your computer to use google as your dns
[18:37] <Gentoo64> panther3: do you use windows, and does it work on that?
[18:37] <panther3> hang on a sec, just restarted after managing to download a driver and some updates are actually installing right now
[18:37] <panther3> Gentoo64: yes, everything is fine on windows
[18:37] <Gentoo64> ok well its not the router then
[18:37] <novaspirit> i'm not in your shoes so it's hard to say that will work. if you ping www.google.com do you get a result?
[18:37] <Gentoo64> prob the driver
[18:37] <panther3> how would the driver mess it up though?
[18:38] <panther3> just curious
[18:38] <almoxarife> novaspirit: networkmanager overwrites resolv.conf
[18:38] <lictuel_> Hello, I have upgraded Ubuntu to 11.10.
[18:39] <Dante_> hii
[18:39] <Dante_> nice
[18:39] <lictuel_> Now I do not have a problem with the surface
[18:39] <lictuel_> it is gone
[18:40] <Gentoo64> panther3: i thought you said you installed a driver and now it works :s
[18:40] <almoxarife> panther3: you will need to add the dns name server via network manager or it will be lost on the next reboot
[18:40] <Dante_> im trying to build a source but im getting this error :> configure: error: glib-compile-schemas not found. :/ , i have even installed libglib2 still not working
[18:40] <lictuel_> Can someone tell me how to activate Gnome or unity?
[18:40] <Gentoo64> lictuel_: login...
[18:40] <Gentoo64> :s
[18:41] <Dante_> :@
[18:41] <panther3> Gentoo64: its working right now, yes, but i don't understand why, and i have a feeling it might not last
[18:41] <almoxarife> Dante_: the package you added had a .dev extension
[18:41] <panther3> almoxarife: how do I go about that?
[18:41] <Gentoo64> panther3: idk. like i say i dont know anything about wireless. except that its unreliable
[18:41] <new2net> Lets say someone manages to get past snort, udf, squid, my cisco FW, NAT, arpalert, netfilter, and Lebron- my 24/7 guard outside my house. I would like to set up tripwire; a last line of defense integrity checker which monitors sensitive files on my OS. What would the sensitive files for Natty be? /bin/bash is an example- but what else?
[18:41] <Dante_> yes it did
[18:41] <almoxarife> panther3: what version you running?
[18:42] <zulunite> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[18:42] <panther3> Gentoo64: yeah, well hopefully it stays like this, cheers for your help :-)
[18:42] <Dante_> almoxrife .. what do i do now ??
[18:42] <Gentoo64> new2net: overparanoid?
[18:42] <panther3> almoxarife: 11.10
[18:42] <Dante_> it had -dev
[18:42] <mehlol> Dante, what did you do
[18:42] <trism> Dante_: glib-compile-schemas is in libglib2.0-bin
[18:42] <mehlol> Sorry, what do you need help with?
[18:42] <Gentoo64> new2net: what about apparmor? setting that up
[18:43] <Gentoo64> making profiles etc
[18:43] <almoxarife> panther3: see the network icon top right?
[18:43] <panther3> almoxarife: yep
[18:43] <luist> hey guys i changed a logo on the loading screen, inside the CHROOT to make a LiveCD. i ran update-initramfs -u but it only changed the logo when turning off, not when turning on! anyone help?
[18:43] <dr_willis> new2net:  if you are that worried about it. you can set up most  of / to be on a read only filesystem
[18:44] <almoxarife> panther3: see 'settings' when clicked?
[18:44] <Dante_> trism: i checked my synaptic and none libglib2.9 got bin at the end...
[18:44] <dr_willis> luist:  often the 3d drivers for nvidia or ati conflict with the plymouth logo. so it dosent show any logo at boot.. but does at shutdown. that might be the issue.
[18:44] <Dante_> 2.0
[18:44] <Dante_> :@
[18:44] <trism> Dante_: which ubuntu version is this?
[18:44] <Dante_> 10.04
[18:44] <Dante_> LTS
[18:44] <azert> hello
[18:44] <new2net> Gentoo64, good suggestion. But the worst thing I could do is be sitting on a box I think is secure, and then 3 months from now find out someone has pwnd me and had access for 8 weeks. It has happened to me before
[18:45] <mehlol> Dante_ still working on compiling gnome3?
[18:45] <Gentoo64> new2net: thats the point of apparmor
[18:45] <luist> dr_willis: maybe not…. it works on the same machine with a live usb…
[18:45] <Gentoo64> new2net: restrict net facing apps for what theyre allowed to access
[18:45] <trism> Dante_: glib-compile-schemas may not have been added until recently (so it may not be in 10.04)
[18:45] <luist> dr_willis: and it still shows the default ubuntu logo on turning on
[18:45] <dr_willis> luist:  the live usb is using the same drivers?
[18:45] <Dante_> mehlol: ofc i dont give up easily ...
[18:45] <panther3> almoxarife: nope, no settings..
[18:45] <Gentoo64> new2net: if your worried about getting owned theres other solutions on top of all that like grsecurity, pax
[18:45] <Dante_> ;)
[18:45] <dr_willis> luist:  ive had issues in the past getting a live usb with persistant save file to actually use the nvidia or ati drivers.
[18:46] <panther3> connections gone again now
[18:46] <Dante_> trism: well ...there must be some other way around  :/
[18:46] <yeats> Dante_: you're entering "dependency hell" then... you'll probably have to chase down these sorts of dependencies and install them from source first :-/
[18:46] <dr_willis> luist:  even if i had them installed.. some times they would not get properly used but the gpl drivers would get used instead. thus plymouth worked.
[18:46] <panther3> back again
[18:46] <mehlol> Dante_ why not use a repo?
[18:47] <yeats> Dante_: again - I will caution you against doing that on a system you're actually hoping to use
[18:47] <Dante_> yeah .. maybe i can try configuring the configure file with the source ...
[18:47] <almoxarife> panther3: its also in 'applications' network connections
[18:47] <azert> i got several pc on ubuntu in a same network, 5 pc, i got the mac address of one of those pc, i would like to find the corresponding mac address to pc, in one time
[18:47] <azert> w/o checking that manually
[18:47] <azert> how to do ?
[18:47] <dr_willis> if the packages you are compiling are avail in some repos you can try the 'apt-get build-dep' command/option to pull in all needed dev deps.
[18:47] <Dante_> yeats: i will be using i first on a virtual machine then if it works on my system ...
[18:48] <luist> dr_willis: well how can i fix that? couldnt be an issue on my livecd building? inside the chroot i get some warnings when trying to update the logo: http://pastie.org/2884835
[18:48] <Dante_> :)
[18:48] <yeats> Dante_: oh - good ;-)
[18:48] <Dante_> mehlol: what repo ??
[18:48] <panther3> almoxarife: yep, okay got that up
[18:48] <dr_willis> luist:  no idea. personally.. i hate pymouth and disable it.. it is more pain then what its worth.
[18:48] <pikaciu> bye
[18:48] <Dante_> yeats: yeahh im not that crazy ... ;_)
[18:49] <Dante_> ;-)
[18:49] <azert> any idea ?
[18:49] <Dante_> maybe im .. u never know
[18:49] <dr_willis> nap time for me. bye all
[18:49] <elotro> i have a question about ircd-hybrid server. whats the command to restart it?
[18:50] <almoxarife> panther3: where are you adding the extra dns server, wifi or ether or both?
[18:50] <panther3> almoxarife: i dont understand what an extra dns server is
[18:50] <azert> helllo anyone there ?
[18:50] <elotro> the command that is offered in the preliminary motd after configuration says 'invoke-rc.d ircd-hybrid restart'
[18:51] <almoxarife> panther3: the <IP_ADDRESS> is a dns server
[18:51] <mehlol> Dante_: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[18:51] <drake1> how come the wireless only works 5minutes at random times?
[18:51] <panther3> almoxarife: sorry i still dont understand, i don't even know what an <IP_ADDRESS> is.. :-/
[18:51] <Dante_> mehlol
[18:52] <mehlol> Present
[18:52] <EvilResistance> panther3, <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP for one of Google's DNS servers.
[18:52] <luist> dr_willis: any idea on how can i configure this manually? :T
[18:52] <Dante_> mehlol: that repo is already added to my sourcelist
[18:52] <trism> mehlol: that is only for 11.04+ though, and Dante_ is on 10.04
[18:52] <novaspirit> luist: dr_willis logged off before
[18:52] <panther3> EvilResistance: okay, cheers
[18:52] <almoxarife> panther3: why were you adding <IP_ADDRESS> to the file resolv.conf?????
[18:53] <panther3> panther: i wasn't? when did i say that..
[18:53] <mehlol> Yes, modify the sources.lst entry for 11.04+
[18:53] <Dante_> mehlol: yes trism is correct ...
[18:53] <trism> Dante_: if you are really just trying to use gnome 3, might as well just install 11.10, which has it in the default repos
[18:53] <novaspirit> almoxarife: you told panther3 earlier to add it in the network manager so it saves it in the next reboot
[18:53] <Dante_> even i got the repo i can't download anythng from it
[18:54] <trism> Dante_: or wait until 12.04 comes out and upgrade to that
[18:54] <novaspirit> panther3: is your internet working now on your ubuntu?
[18:54] <Dante_> but i can't upgrade ...
[18:54] <Dante_> im on bt5
[18:54] <Myrtti> !backtrack
[18:54] <panther3> novaspirit: it was, now it's constantly on and off
[18:54] <Dante_> yes
[18:54] <Shwaiil> Q: Whats the best way to find a new LAPTOP that will be compatible with ubuntu ? I'm checking the "certified" one's but many are old or not available in my location :P tks
[18:55] <almoxarife> novaspirit: panther3: try sudo echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' > /etc/resolv.conf  <-- I assumed he did want it, my bad, nevermind panther3
[18:55] <alien20501> Shwaill: I've tested a LOT of laptops, many brands, most will work, but some may need configuration
[18:55] <novaspirit> panther3: if it is working then disregard the nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:56] <Myrtti> Shwaiil: I would personally go to #ubuntu-offtopic and/or your Ubuntu Local Community irc channel and/or discussion forums and ask around
[18:56] <novaspirit> panther3, that is what i thought was the problem initally
[18:56] <Shwaiil> alien20501, tks
[18:56] <novaspirit> novaspirit, test
[18:56] <novaspirit> novaspirit: test
[18:56] <novaspirit> hmmp
[18:57] <novaspirit> am i messing wrong?
[18:57] <panther3> yeah the connection is terrible...i tried the command but it didn't do anything?
[18:57] <panther3> what was it supposed to do?
[18:57] <drake1> the wireless osd info says that it's connected (when turning off all security layers) but it won't work. first try it worked for 5minutes but since then, no luck.
[18:58] <almoxarife> panther3: describe 'terrible' connection
[18:58] <novaspirit> websites usually carry a name(dns) like www.google.com. our computers don't know what that is so we need a domain name server(dns) to translate words like www.google.com. to numbers. <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:58] <panther3> internet wont work, trying to install updates and they'll start to install but fail before finished
[18:58] <almoxarife> panther3: if you are using it right now it can't be that bad, you are not dropping off the net
[18:59] <panther3> almoxarife: i'm on a laptop right now, the problem is on my desktop
[18:59] <almoxarife> panther3: on same network as the desktop?
[18:59] <panther3> almoxarife: yes
[19:00] <almoxarife> panther3: don't fixate on the network
[19:00] <panther3> almoxarife: also have windows on the same desktop and that works fine
[19:00] <novaspirit> almoxarife, panther3 are you thinking? ip conflict?
[19:00] <panther3> almoxarife: what do you mean by that?
[19:01] <panther3> novaspirit: never heard of that before
[19:01] <almoxarife> panther3: failed installs ? what errors do you get? btw, the desktop with ubuntu on it works fine except for the installs?
[19:02] <S0me1> What is the differences between Ubuntu CD and DVD?
[19:02] <BarkingFish> CD is a basic install, DVD has the full set of language support on it, plus some other stuff which doesn't come on the CD
[19:03] <panther3> almoxarife: the error is that the network is down, the OS is fine, yeah, just wont connect to anything
[19:03] <almoxarife> panther3: this is something that just happened or was there after a fresh install?
[19:05] <S0me1> What are the differences between Ubuntu CD and DVD? Is the DVD contain huge packages!
[19:05] <panther3> almoxarife: was there after a fresh install...i installed a few days ago and tried: sudo apt-get update, got some updates, and the update manager had refreshed..tried to install some updates on that but it said there wasn't enough memory, so i went onto windows and resized windows partition to make ubuntu partition bigger, but then windows wouldn't boot, so deleted ubuntu partition, system restore'd windows and re-installed ubuntu...a
[19:06] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[19:06] <JetJaguar> kamilnadeem  Hello
[19:06] <kamilnadeem> I am not getting the thumbnails for some video files , while some are working
[19:06] <almoxarife> panther3: 'memory' ????? adding space won't add memory
[19:07] <kamilnadeem> JetJaguar: Hello
[19:07] <S0me1> any answers please ?
[19:07] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why brltty; Unable to find a reason to install brltty.' Does this mean that I can simply deinstall the DEB program package brltty without harmful consequences?
[19:07] <panther3> almoxarife: not memory as in RAM, memory as in storage
[19:07] <novaspirit> S0me1: read above someone aready answered you
[19:07] <NikLP> Hi, I'm coming here as a debian user. I need to provision a new web server very shortly. I currently have a debian box, which has been fine for the most part. I wonder if anyone can shed a decent amount of light on the argument between debian/ubunt and gentoo for this purpose. I have a friend who is extremely aggressively supportive on the side of gentoo, and he makes compelling arguments,...
[19:07] <NikLP> ...but I need a second opinion, (hopefully without too much fanboyism!)
[19:07] <kamilnadeem> and when I paste those files in a new folder I get the thumbnails ?
[19:08] <bullgard4> S0me1: On the DVD there are more packages.
[19:08] <toumbo> hi people!!I have the "monitor turns off" problem but I cannot save the nano file!It says it is read-only!!Mya anyone help me?
[19:08] <toumbo> may
[19:08] <novaspirit> toumbo: try sudo
[19:09] <novaspirit> for super user mode to write on file
[19:09] <bullgard4> toumbo: What do you mean by "naono file"?
[19:09] <bullgard4> toumbo: What do you mean by "nano file"?
[19:10] <S0me1> bullgard4: BarkingFish ; that mean not many ubuntu dist together such as edu and studio. The main advantage is the packages ! agreed?
[19:10] <almoxarife> panther3: I am assuming, your issues have zero to do with 'network' , but I would do one thing when ever I install, try to be hardwired, and use the 'alternate' iso/disk/cd/dvd
[19:10] <JetJaguar> NikLP  Pretty much all versions of linux are flexible enough to serve your needs.  It all just depends on how you set it up...
[19:10] <artyums> Hello) Can anyone say me, how slowdown the fans in Ubuntu?
[19:10] <toumbo> novaspirit But i already used it(sudo).I was in recovery mode.I tried to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf with nano
[19:10] <artyums> Sorry for my badly English))
[19:10] <zykotick9> novaspirit, fyi su != "super user" it's "switch user" which when given no user argument defaults to root
[19:11] <bullgard4> S0me1: The main advantage ist the larger number of packages, yes.
[19:11] <BarkingFish> S0me1: I'm really sorry, I don't fully understand you.
[19:11] <BarkingFish> since bullgard4 does, I'll let them carry on :)
[19:11] <S0me1> BarkingFish: :)
[19:11] <novaspirit> zykotick9, thanks i acutally never read up about that cause i usually use sudo command
[19:11] <panther3> almoxarife: managing to install that driver has definitely helped a bit, updates are installing but the connection is on off on off so it's taking a while...maybe when the updates are installed whatever bug i have might be fixed?
[19:12] <packetpenguin> what does a person need to do to register a nick?
[19:12] <zykotick9> !register | packetpenguin
[19:12] <kamilnadeem> >? any solution?
[19:12] <toumbo> novaspirit http://goo.gl/Cn9f
[19:13] <S0me1> bullgard4: I am not sure the DVD works fine with Nvidia vga ? sometimes black screen came
[19:13] <toumbo> The monitor turns off issue
[19:14] <S0me1> BarkingFish: bullgard4 :Can I choose which packages I can install from DVD wizard ?
[19:14] <JetJaguar> artyums  You many have to check if your motherboard manufacturer has linux software that will allow you to control the fans....
[19:15] <Gardllok> im abit noob to linux, what can I do to optimize ubuntu for my acer netbook? or should i just leave it alone? (version 11.1)
[19:15] <bullgard4> S0me1: This my be the case with certain Nvidia cards. But an Ubuntu CD will not do any better.  You will need to tackle this problem after you have installed the operating system from your DVD.
[19:15] <JetJaguar> artyums  Otherwise, the fans may be controlled by the motherboard BIOS.
[19:16] <bullgard4> S0me1: Yes you can select certain packages (but only to a certain degree).
[19:16] <c_smith> Gordllok, there's not too many ways I know of to optimize it that it doesn't do when it's installed, and the ways I know of are more for power users.
[19:16] <novaspirit> i'm not exactly sure but you can kill your gdm to go into shell
[19:16] <bullgard4> s/my/may
[19:16] <S0me1> bullgard4: what do you mean by certain degree?
[19:17] <novaspirit> i believe if you use alt+ctrl+f1 you still have the x still running
[19:17] <bullgard4> S0me1: I mean that there is no complete freedom.
[19:17] <novaspirit> toumbo, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:18] <novaspirit> toumbo i'm not too sure cause i don't do that much
[19:18] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing http://pastebin.com/nCWpjE0s this currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[19:18] <Gardllok> c_smith: Thank you, not a netbook power user, I am setting this up for my wife to do her net browsing only pretty much and I just wanna make sure I set it up to deliver best performance, the pc originally had win7 starter
[19:18] <JetJaguar> novaspirit  Correct  Alt+Ctrl+F1-6 will take you to a Console window.  There are 6 of them.  Alt+Ctrl+F7 will take you to X.
[19:18] <novaspirit> JetJaguar, but will X still be running in the background?
[19:18] <S0me1> bullgard4: that's fine, I need something working well on my workstation specially Nvida issue, sometimes the black screen came during the installation
[19:19] <JetJaguar> novaspirit  Correct.  :)
[19:19] <celord> hello all, I have a 700G hard disk, what would be the best partition distribution ???
[19:19] <toumbo> novaspirit unfortunately I'm unable to enter X only recovery mode
[19:19] <novaspirit> JetJaguar, toumbo is having a problem writing to the xorg file. even after he does alt-ctrl-f1
[19:19] <c_smith> Gordlok, if you want a fast Browser, but don't mind expending a few extra system resources, i'd recommend Google Chrome.
[19:20] <novaspirit> toumbo, ohh i miss that part where you go into recovery mode. which means x should not be loaded at all
[19:20] <c_smith> celord, with just that information, it's hard to make a recommendation, as it also depends on what you need in the partitions, how much RAM you have, and whether you want  a /home partition instead of a /home directory.
[19:21] <Gardllok> c_smith: I agree, though I never used it on a linux system, its what i recommend for windows as a fast browser...similiar installation process or do i have to include extra dependancy services?
[19:21] <zykotick9> Gardllok, chromium (in ubuntu repo) is IMO a better suggestion then the non-free Google Chrome
[19:21] <novaspirit> toumbo sorry can't help much on this.. trying sudo bash to get root prompt and try to nano the xorg file
[19:21]  * zykotick9 know that Chromium is also not considered free by FSF
[19:21] <bullgard4> S0me1: Your description is not detailled enough. Please analyze you file /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old for Nvidia errors.
[19:21] <Gardllok> zykotick9: i would have went with chromium however my wife wants to use calibre and read books as well, however chromium does not support this
[19:21] <bullgard4> -l
[19:22] <bullgard4> s/you/your/
[19:22] <c_smith> Gordlok, I'd try both Chromium and Chrome (they're basically the same thing, save for a few extras in Chrome) and see what works best for you.
[19:22] <novaspirit> gardllok i just started using firefox 4. and man it's not bad with a minimal look to it
[19:22] <zykotick9> c_smith, ya those google tracking features are nice </sarcasm>
[19:23]  * c_smith has FF, Chrome and Chromium.
[19:23] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why brltty; Unable to find a reason to install brltty.' Does this mean that I can simply deinstall the DEB program package brltty without harmful consequences?
[19:23] <c_smith> zykotic9, I agree there, the tracking definitely wouldn't be wanted, but some people need features in Chrome that aren't in Chromium.
[19:24] <toumbo> Ok let's explain my steps from start.I removed nvidia driver in order to install the newest from ppa.After reboot Montor turned off.With google help found this http://goo.gl/Cn9f.On recovery mode  couldn't save the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file with nano.
[19:24] <zykotick9> !tab > c_smith
[19:24] <toumbo> i removed the driver from jockey-gtk
[19:24] <llutz> bullgard4: usually yes, check "sudo aptitude purge brltty -s" to be sure whats going to be removed
[19:24] <c_smith> zykotick9: thanks for the tip.
[19:25] <toumbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:26] <c_smith> celord: what are you planning to do with the partitioning? how much RAM do you have and do you need any directories as a seperate partition?
[19:26] <JetJaguar> Google will save us all.  ;)
[19:26] <c_smith> JetJaguar: true dat.
[19:28] <celord> c_smith, I would like to have home in a separate partition
[19:28] <celord> I have 8G of RAM
[19:29] <HK_417_Girl> algun militar?
[19:29] <drake1> im a bit confused by all this wireless. in windows it works fine, even with encryption, but ubuntu says "connected," and nothing happens. maybe i could fix it from a command line but wouldn't the ubuntu desktop wireless controls interfere with command line settings?
[19:30] <c_smith> celord: ok, that gives me more to work with, but I have one last question before I feel safe making recommendations: how much space do you need for the /home partition?
[19:30] <Scunizi> celord: If you're going to experiment a lot ie web servers, different programs etc.. here's my recommendation .. /swap=16gig (incase of video editing san sleep mode ... / (root) 20-30 gigs .. the rest for /home
[19:30] <bullgard4> llutz: I have done what you advised. I have checked and then puged this package. It worked all right. -- Thank you for your help.  --  Can I ask you why did Ubuntu automatically install this package at all? The majority of Ubuntu users is not blind.
[19:30] <llutz> bullgard4: idk, better you ask the ubuntu-devs
[19:31] <bullgard4> llutz: Thank you again for your help.
[19:31] <toumbo> Guess noone have an idea how to save a file using nano in recovery mode... :/
[19:31] <toumbo> When it is redonly
[19:31] <drake1> sudo su root \n nano file
[19:32] <celord> c_smith, I want to have as much as poisible space on /home but do not wat to let root too small for other programs using system folders
[19:32] <JetJaguar> toumbo  You have to open the file with nano as Root first.
[19:32] <celord> Scunizi, that sounds good
[19:32] <JetJaguar> If you didn't open the file with nano as root you won't be able to save it.
[19:32] <drake1> celord: try with 100GB and see how your usage develops
[19:32] <toumbo> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf like this JetJaguar?
[19:33] <JetJaguar> toumbo  That should do it.
[19:33] <toumbo> I already done it!!! :/
[19:33] <c_smith> ok, here's my recommendation: 100-200 GB for root, 16 GB for swap, and the rest for /home
[19:33] <JetJaguar> toumbo  And nano will not let you save it?
[19:33] <c_smith> my PC has a lot more limited hard drive: 230 GB.
[19:33] <uabn93> 16gb for swap??
[19:34] <rhizmoe> fantastic, another 50+ updates today!
[19:34] <c_smith> depending on his gfx card.
[19:34] <toumbo> JetJaguar Yes!!It says it's read only!
[19:34] <llutz> toumbo: root-fs mounted readonly?
[19:34] <c_smith> uabn93: depending on his gfx card, and some other variables, then yeah, that sounds reasonable.
[19:34] <Jordan_U> celord: I generally recommend against using a separate /home/. Why do you ewant one?
[19:34] <zykotick9> toumbo, has anyone asked to see "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[19:35] <drake1> i always put the home on a perarate partition so it's easy to chroot, mount home, use the home toolchain to build the new environment
[19:35] <drake1> separate
[19:35] <okee> Does anyone know if there is an Ubuntu user group in Sacramento, CA?  I am visiting there for the holidays, and would like to meetup if possible.
[19:36] <toumbo> Sorry guys i don't understand
[19:36] <sudipta> any one knows how to disable power save mode in gnome shell
[19:36] <sudipta> ?
[19:36] <toumbo> llutz  zykotick9
[19:37] <zykotick9> toumbo, from a terminal could you give the output from running "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (no double quotes)
[19:37] <llutz> toumbo: see output of "mount"  command. does the line containing "/" say ro/readonly?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> !lug | okee
[19:38] <toumbo> Ok got it!I'll try it!!And then return here for information
[19:38] <sudipta> any one knows how to disable power save mode in gnome shell?
[19:38] <okee> Well I selected that link and got a "Bandwidth Limit Exceeded" http://www.linux.org/groups/
[19:39] <JetJaguar> DOH!
[19:39] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running on a laptop using 11.04, when running window managers, all the power management stuff gets switched off. I'm writing a script to do manage my battery power/writes to disk currently and I'm wondering if there are any already written tools for doing this?
[19:39] <semifor> I've got xmonad working with 11.10 using this as a guide: https://gist.github.com/1300108, but when I log out, lightdm doesn't restart.
[19:40] <zykotick9> okee, for ubuntu loco this might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam
[19:42] <okee> Hmm..  Those folks seem to be online only.  Couldn't find anything specifically to Sacramento, but i did see something at http://ubuntuforums.org/register  I am trying to register.
[19:43] <zykotick9> okee, i thought i saw something about a Sacramento ubuntu-hour?
[19:44] <zykotick9> okee, perhaps not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours
[19:44] <Vinny> I have a question regarding using a built in Raid Controller from SuperMirco X9SCL , The Installer is not picking up the LSI Raid
[19:45] <zykotick9> Vinny, for installing onto RAID you might have more luck with an Alternative CD vs the LiveCD (but I have no specific knowledge regarding your controller)
[19:45] <kapcom01> can anyone help me with imagemagick's convert command?
[19:45] <llutz> kapcom01: ask
[19:45] <zykotick9> kapcom01, "convert file.ext newfile.ext"
[19:46] <Vinny> My CD is the Ubuntu Server 11.10
[19:46] <kapcom01> i would like to slice multiple images into two pieces
[19:46] <zykotick9> Vinny, perhaps try the #ubuntu-server channel then.
[19:46] <bullgard4> Synaptic about the DEB program package »uno-lib3«: "The Uno Runtime Environment (URE) is the well-known UNO component model of LibreOffice, packaged as an individual product. What is the esssence of the »UNO« component model of LibreOffice? It is not well-known to me.
[19:46] <Vinny> kk ty
[19:46] <vex_> can someone help me figure out why mu ssh server will not ask me for my RSA key upon connecting? I have generated the RSA key pair and edited the configuration file accordingly but it still does not ask me for any type of key, just a password
[19:47] <kapcom01> i want to do a horizontal crop (http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/tidbits/image.php#crop1) but on many images at once..
[19:48] <geoffmcc> vex_: i know you said you editited config, but did you also edit ssh_config and turn passwordauthentication to no
[19:48] <zykotick9> kapcom01, perhaps ##imagemagick would know?
[19:48] <JetJaguar> kapcom01  You want to Batch crop multiple images?
[19:48] <llutz> kapcom01: for pic in *.jpg; do convert -someoptions "$pic"   new/$pic ; done
[19:49] <vex_> geoffmcc: it doesnt appear that i have a ssh_config why would that be
[19:49] <zykotick9> llutz, the OP wants some crop option(s)
[19:49] <llutz> zykotick9: those he just showed us in the link he gave?
[19:49] <kapcom01> llutz, thanks i'll try it out
[19:49] <zykotick9> llutz, sorry
[19:49] <geoffmcc> vex_: sorry it should be in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[19:50] <llutz> zykotick9: "...but on many images at once.."
[19:50] <vex_> geoffmcc: thats where i am now and its completly gone i remember it being there at one time but now it has vanished
[19:50] <llutz> kapcom01: make sure directory "new" exists
[19:51] <JetJaguar> llutz  Hope he has to crop the exact same area on each image...
[19:51] <geoffmcc> vex_: when you say you editied config file, what file was that
[19:52] <vex_> geoffmcc: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:52] <kapcom01> llutz, thank you very mutc its working :)
[19:52] <llutz> kapcom01: yw
[19:52] <Tuxist64bit> three githubs .-D
[19:52] <geoffmcc> vex_: im confused, the config file is gone or the passwordauth statement
[19:53] <Tuxist64bit> i think we must better cordinate
[19:53] <vex_> geoffmcc: my ssh_config file is gone everything else is still there
[19:55] <Koolvin> I'm about to install ubuntu server 10.04.03 from a flash drive using universal usb installer, every time I've done this before on this machine, the bootloader has been installed to the flash drive.
[19:55] <wide_awake> Multimedia keys don't seem to work in audacious until I go into prefs -> plugins -> global hotkey plugin, then hit "ok" (no changes).  Anyone know how I can make it work without that step?
[19:55] <Koolvin> How can I prevent this?
[19:55] <geoffmcc> vex_: i can pastebin you the default so you can recreate
[19:55] <tolmun> oahi
[19:55] <clock2> CIAO
[19:55] <clock2> !LISTA
[19:55] <geoffmcc> vex_: although im not sure how ssh is running
[19:56] <zykotick9> Koolvin, there is an option to specify where Grub is installed (just prior to the copying stage, some Advanced button or something)
[19:56] <vex_> geoffmcc: ya im not too sure either but if you could pastebin the default that would be great
[19:56] <geoffmcc> vex_: yup, one min.
[19:56] <Koolvin> Is it a quick "press f12 now!!!!" or something like that?
[19:56] <vex_> geoffmcc: thanks
[19:56] <zykotick9> Koolvin, no, during the GUI install
[19:57] <Koolvin> It's server
[19:57] <zykotick9> Koolvin, sorry - i was thinking desktop.  Ignore what i said.
[19:58] <kazurik> Does anyone know how safe it is to write to an NTFS partition these days from linux?
[19:58] <toumbo> zykotick9 output: -rw-r--r--
[19:58] <theadmin> kazurik: ntfs-3g
[19:58] <theadmin> kazurik: Oh, sorry, misread your question
[19:59] <Koolvin>
[19:59] <theadmin> kazurik: It's safe enough, I didn't have any problems with it whatsoever
[19:59] <JetJaguar> Kazurik,  It shouldn't be a problem.
[19:59] <toumbo> llutz warning: /etc/mtab is not writable
[19:59] <zykotick9> toumbo, could you give the full like please
[19:59] <geoffmcc> vex_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747457/
[19:59] <kazurik> theadmin: Ah perfect! Thanks
[19:59] <llutz> toumbo: what was the line containing "/"?
[20:00] <toumbo> zykotick9 The other part was the time and date I put the command
[20:00] <toumbo> llutz it was rw
[20:01] <vex_> geoffmcc: thanks man that was it i have no idea how that file went missing
[20:01] <toumbo> soory not much information I though it were useless.My mistake
[20:02] <toumbo> I thought
[20:02] <subb1> hi everyone
[20:02] <geoffmcc> vex_: no problem, hope that does it for you. it should.
[20:04] <Vinny_> Tried Asking the Server channel but no one was there... is there a Alternative cd of Ubuntu Server?
[20:04] <zykotick9> Vinny_, no - it's already like an altcd
[20:04] <subb1> i have an issue mounting an external HDD ntfs formatted.
[20:04] <Vinny_> then it should be detecting this raid controller..
[20:04] <subb1> on ubuntu...with a pretty long error message
[20:05] <rodhash> Hello guys.. I just issued 'do-release-upgrade' it it upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04... should I run it again to upgrade to 11.10 or should I first reboot my laptop?
[20:05] <d3f4c3d> Hello, is there a real linux guru to help me RESET my NIC count ?
[20:05] <llutz> d3f4c3d: your what?
[20:05] <Vinny_> Zykotick9 u can't build the raid with ubuntu can u?
[20:05] <Zeranoe> Hi, for some reason I've lost my network manager. Network manager is installed, but there is no icon down at the bottom that would allow me to connect to a wireless network. Any ideas what might be happening, or how I could launch it without the taskbar icon?
[20:06] <zykotick9> Vinny_, i wouldn't know, i'm not a RAID person
[20:06] <d3f4c3d> i had 12 nics, after replacing my new nic cards show up as eth13 - eth23
[20:06] <theadmin> Zeranoe: In a terminal, type: nm-applet &disown
[20:06] <JetJaguar> Vinny, I've read several recommendations that suggest NOT to use the RAID controllers but rather to use the linux software RAID.
[20:06] <geoffmcc> rodhash: to be safe i would install any updates it finds and then do another release-upgrade
[20:06] <llutz> d3f4c3d: remove/change /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:06] <d3f4c3d> llutz, thanks
[20:06] <rodhash> geoffb, so I need to run 'do-release-upgrade' again?
[20:07] <Vinny_> @JetJaguar  SO Don't use the controller Ubuntu has one built in
[20:07] <geoffmcc> rodhash: first run the update manager and get any updates and then do the release upgrade
[20:07] <rodhash> oh ok
[20:07] <rodhash> geoffb, so I don't need to reboot it, right?
[20:07] <subb1> guys, i get this error message while trying to mount ntfs external HDD:
[20:07] <zykotick9> Vinny_, most of the "use softare raid instead" stem from FAKERAID hardware, not real RAID hardware
[20:07] <subb1> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[20:07] <subb1> Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap: Input/output error
[20:07] <subb1> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[20:07] <subb1> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[20:07] <subb1> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[20:07] <FloodBot1> subb1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <Zeranoe> theadmin: Should that be the same on lubuntu?
[20:08] <d3f4c3d> llutz, rebooting now
[20:08] <geoffmcc> rodhash: go ahead and do it just to be sure
[20:08] <theadmin> Zeranoe: Oh, I suppose yes, but I'm not so sure. If it uses NetworkManager, then yup
[20:08] <deviant2029> Hello. I am trying to install ubunutu desktop in a dual boot with windows 7. My windows 7 install is on a software raid 0, but when i try to install Ubuntu. It can only find the 3 disks that are in my raid 0 configuration. Has anyone ran into this or know how I can get Ubuntu installed on my raid 0 with windows 7?
[20:08] <JetJaguar> Vinny  Linux has a software RAID that supposedly works just as well or better than hardware RAIDs.
[20:08] <Vinny_> kk Sorry Im a Windows Guy learning this with ubuntu   usually with windows u have to create the raid with the controller first then u can install windows but with ubuntu it is built in
[20:09] <Vinny_> that would make sense and explain my issues...
[20:09] <subb1> FloodBot1: sorry
[20:09] <rodhash> geoffb, thx
[20:09] <subb1> i have pasted the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/747468/
[20:09] <Vinny_> kk Thank u for your help guys going to remove the raid and try it again
[20:09] <d3f4c3d> llutz, flawless victory - you are GURU
[20:10] <yeats> subb1: did you run chkdsk /f on it?
[20:10] <Zeranoe> theadmin: Thanks a lot, I believe I got it, somehow network-manger-gnome was removed.
[20:11] <seanmc98> hello i have bluetooth on my computer ( at least im guessing what the huge bluetooth button is for on the computer) but in ubuntu it says no compatable drivers found. any ideas?
[20:11] <subb1> yeats: but i cannot see the partition to run chkdsk
[20:11] <deviant2029> Hello. I am trying to install ubunutu desktop in a dual boot with windows 7. My windows 7 install is on a software raid 0, but when i try to install Ubuntu. It can only find the 3 disks that are in my raid 0 configuration. Has anyone ran into this or know how I can get Ubuntu installed on my raid 0 with windows 7?
[20:11] <yeats> subb1: (that would have to be done from Windows btw)
[20:12] <subb1> yeats: oh thanks. it might get fixed after that?
[20:12] <yeats> subb1: it sounds like you at least need to do that - hopefully it fixes the problem
[20:13] <subb1> yeats: sure. let me try. thanks for your time.
[20:13] <yeats> subb1: alternatively, you could reformat the drive to ext3/4 (would destroy any data on it)
[20:13] <subb1> yeats: no . data on it are important.
[20:13] <JetJaguar> deviant2029  Sounds like you will not be able to do a dual boot if Ubuntu cannot recognize your software raid.
[20:13] <rodhash> open: 53436; closed: 94652; defer: 123; conflict: 335, Why so many checks when running 'aptitude upgrade'?
[20:14] <yeats> subb1: then I would try to fix the NTFS issu
[20:14] <yeats> e
[20:14] <JetJaguar> deviant2029  Is that "software raid" a Windows only software?
[20:14] <subb1> yeats: so shall i try the chkdsk on windows now?
[20:14] <TomSlominski> hi. i'm trying to kill cherokee but it just won't die :(
[20:14] <yeats> subb1: that's what I would do
[20:15] <deviant2029> JetJaguar, Not sure. Its controlled by my motherboard. Its a dell XPS tower
[20:15] <subb1> yeats: thanks
[20:15] <pnorman> deviant2029: My guess would be you have to partition the 3 drives so half is for windows, half is for linux, then setup two software raids
[20:15] <subb1> hopefully it fixed
[20:15] <subb1> fixes*
[20:15] <Mathias> scuses
[20:16] <pnorman> deviant2029: Oh, fakeraid. you may be able to get that to work in ubuntu.
[20:17] <pnorman> deviant2029: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto but be sure to have backups
[20:17] <rodhash> Guys.. any idea why 'aptitude upgrade' is doing that huge checking?? --> open: 86466; closed: 153226;
[20:17] <deviant2029> Thanks pnorman
[20:19] <JetJaguar> Is there a reason to use a RAID controller anymore unless it's a server?
[20:20] <Koolvin> JetJaguar, if you've got a raid set up
[20:20] <Koolvin> Yes
[20:20] <Koolvin> Are you asking if there is reason to raid?
[20:20] <giogio> ciao
[20:21] <giogio> anche se è amore non si vede ù
[20:21] <JetJaguar> Koolvin  Yes.  Basically.  Unless you are using a SAN it seems like over kill any more.
[20:22] <Koolvin> JetJaguar, raid 0 can multiply the speed of drives 4x
[20:22] <szal> !it | giogio
[20:23] <Koolvin> Among speed increase, you have a single logical volume across multiple disks which saves a lot of pain
[20:23] <JetJaguar> Koolvin  Until one of those drives dies.  :(
[20:23] <Koolvin> Of course.
[20:23] <Koolvin> But thats a risk you must take
[20:23] <JetJaguar> Yep
[20:24] <Koolvin> If you're worrying about drive failure, raid has you covered as well
[20:24] <Koolvin> Creating redundancy
[20:24] <Guest12952> hi
[20:24] <Guest12952> :q
[20:24] <Koolvin> Hi
[20:25] <JetJaguar> What can we do for you Guest?
[20:25] <captcrunch> Hey
[20:25] <balazs> hi. The shells in my terminal are misbehaving. When I hit TAB and it completes a filename, the spaces aren't escaped.
[20:26] <RonaldJ> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 How can I remove the sidebar? It's making me mad!
[20:26] <subb1> quit
[20:26] <JetJaguar> balazs  Are you typing in a command or just changing dirs?
[20:26] <Koolvin> Ronald, that's the desktop environment
[20:26] <RonaldJ> Koolvin it shows up every time I don't want it to show up
[20:27] <JetJaguar> RonaldJ  It's part of Ubuntu now.  Well, part of Unity.
[20:27] <Koolvin> RonaldJ, do you want to get rid of the sidebar completely
[20:27] <jrib> RonaldJ: do you know what you would prefer?
[20:27] <kopitos> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <kopitos> sorry
[20:27] <RonaldJ> Ubuntu (unity) looks great but the sitebar looks like a big bug.
[20:28] <balazs> JetJaguar: using "ls"
[20:28] <RonaldJ> Koolvin yes please
[20:28] <balazs> using "cd" seems to work
[20:28] <Koolvin> Oh, you want to keep unity
[20:28] <Koolvin> But remove the sidebar?
[20:29] <RonaldJ> Koolvin yes
[20:29] <Koolvin> I'm not sure if you can do that
[20:29] <RonaldJ> Or hide the sidebar or dock it
[20:29] <Koolvin> However you can replace unity with another desktop environment
[20:29] <Koolvin> Like gnome or kde
[20:29] <JetJaguar> balazs  There are certain times that spaces do not need to be escaped.  In commands like ls the shell can get away with not escaping them I think.
[20:29] <Koolvin> Looks like I'm not going to be much help, as I'm not versed with unity =\
[20:30] <RonaldJ> Koolvin what do you use?
[20:30] <Gardllok> exit
[20:30] <nook> Hi, is it possible to show the items in the unety global menu without hover the menu?
[20:30] <Koolvin> I use kde more than anything
[20:30] <nook> i want to see alle the menu items all time
[20:30] <Koolvin> But I generally only use linux for server environments
[20:31] <jutnux> I really like Unity to be honest.
[20:31] <RonaldJ> Koolvin does it work well with NVIDIA?
[20:31] <balazs> JetJaguar: not true with "ls"
[20:31] <Koolvin> KDE?
[20:31] <RonaldJ> Koolvin yes?
[20:31] <Koolvin> It's built on opengl, so yes
[20:31] <Koolvin> I believe it is atleast
[20:31] <Koolvin> It has no trouble with nvidia cards.
[20:31] <Koolvin> Kubuntu comes shipped with kde
[20:32] <RonaldJ> Unity is cool but that sidebar is making it unpossible to use without getting irritated
[20:32] <balazs> it seems to work the first time I type something in a new shell, but not afterwards
[20:32] <balazs> odd
[20:32] <Koolvin> #kubuntu
[20:32] <RonaldJ> Koolvin I will try Kubuntu again then. Thanks!
[20:33] <JetJaguar> balazs  Are you in a new Console or Tearminal?
[20:33] <balazs> yes
[20:34] <JetJaguar> balazs  yes which?
[20:34] <balazs> it's broken in either
[20:35] <balazs> but I think I found it
[20:35] <balazs> /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh breaks things
[20:35] <JetJaguar> Cool
[20:36] <c_smith>     Cody
[20:36] <c_smith> wtf? how'd that get typed?
[20:37] <JetJaguar> Ghosts
[20:37] <JetJaguar> in the machine
[20:37] <Spyros> :P
[20:38] <Spyros> in the sky we raise our hands!
[20:38] <JetJaguar> Werd to ya motha
[20:38] <Spyros> and see the blood in them;)
[20:39] <Spyros> we are together and be happy
[20:39] <Spyros> :D
[20:40] <Spyros> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZ2c267FSs
[20:40] <llutz> Spyros: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[20:40] <Spyros> i'm off
[20:40] <Spyros> !!!
[20:40] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to get a per process monitor of network usage.
[20:41] <quentusrex> There is a process on one of my servers making https requests and I'm trying to track down which one.
[20:41] <Spyros> quentusrex, nethogs
[20:41] <Spyros> quentusrex, netstat
[20:42] <c_smith> ok, after a failed install of Burg, I can't even clean up after it, is there anything I can do to fix it short of reinstalling?
[20:42] <c_smith> this is preventing me from installing with apt-get.
[20:43] <c_smith> and I suspect with any other package manager.
[20:45] <c_smith> http://pastebin.com/SHEWTP7n the error apt-get and any other Package Manager are spitting out.
[20:45] <theadmin> c_smith: That sounds too messed up to be really fixable...
[20:46] <TK5791> evening
[20:46] <c_smith> *sigh* gonna have to reinstall packages, but I have my /home directory safe.
[20:48] <Vinny_> Hey the Software Raid in Ubuntu Worked Perfectly Thanks!
[20:48] <nook> Is it possible that the global menu of Unity allways show the menu items? I dont want to hover the menu to see the items... That makes me crazy :(
[20:48] <TK5791> I'm currently running this OS on a Dell XPS
[20:48] <TK5791> The machine has an HTML out.... does anyone know how to activate it when using a HD monitor?
[20:49] <terry_> LOL HTML OUT
[20:49] <theadmin> TK5791: HDMI...
[20:49] <TK5791> HDMI
[20:49] <terry_> :P
[20:49] <TK5791> typo
[20:49] <theadmin> lol xD
[20:49] <Vinny_> HTML new port, is that a web port?
[20:50] <terry_> You plug in the internet
[20:50] <Myrtti> could be using a predictive text thing on the phone
[20:50] <Myrtti> move on.
[20:50] <terry_> TK: using graphical?
[20:50] <terry_> Using ubuntu desktop with Unity / gnome?
[20:50] <TK5791> terry_:?
[20:50] <TK5791> unity
[20:53] <terry_> I assume you've tried going into the 'monitors' settings to enable it?
[20:54] <omar_> tre uomini e una gamba
[20:54] <Deltatash> Hi can anyone give me a hand with Virtualbox on Ubuntu 10.4 I cant seem to get a command working, I am trying to use this in terminal "VBoxManage setextradata “VM name” “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[20:54] <TK5791> terry_:I can only find Display in Ubity
[20:54] <TK5791> Unity
[20:54] <jonathan__> How do you get the fusion icon to appear in oneric?
[20:54] <JetJaguar> You may have to use the propritary drivers to enable that.
[20:54] <Deltatash> but I get VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named '“VM name”
[20:54] <Deltatash> any ideas what is wrong ?
[20:54] <JetJaguar> Deltatash   Did you type in the correct machine name?
[20:55] <TK5791> JetJaguar: was that advice for me?
[20:55] <Deltatash> yeah I have checked a few times now
[20:55] <Deltatash> and I CD into the VM location before running the command
[20:55] <JetJaguar> TK5791  Yep
[20:55] <TK5791> ok.
[20:55] <TK5791> thank you
[20:55] <Daghdha> HI, i have a flaky ETH1 i want to remove from ubuntu completly and  then re-add. What's the best way of doing it?
[20:55] <TK5791> any idea where I might get those drivers from?
[20:56] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Are you running this on a Server or Desktop?
[20:56] <JetJaguar> TK5791  What video card do you have?
[20:56] <TK5791> when I plug the monitor in, it doesn't even appear or recognise the connection
[20:56] <Deltatash> desktop (laptop) with Ubuntu 10.4 Desktop version installed 32 bit
[20:56] <boba88> why i cannot do root (hd0, 5) and then setup (hd0) when reinstallling grun from the live cd
[20:56] <boba88> ?
[20:56] <boba88> why i cannot do root (hd0, 5) and then setup (hd0) when reinstallling grub from the live cd
[20:56] <TK5791> Nvidia
[20:56] <jonathan__> Does anyone know how why fusion-icon wont work in oneric?
[20:56] <jonathan__> is it a unity problem?
[20:57] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Can you launch VirtualBox and look at Manager?
[20:57] <Deltatash> yeah
[20:57] <Deltatash> im in there now looking at VM settings and name etc
[20:57] <xangua> jonathan__: to configure compiz on oneiric use compiz setting manager ;)
[20:57] <JetJaguar> Deltatash What is the name of the VM you are trying to manage on the left?
[20:58] <Deltatash> MacOSX
[20:58] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  No spaces or special characters?
[20:58] <Jragon> I get http://pastebin.com/JPpv55XA at the end of apt-get update.. I've no idea what's wrong with it..
[20:58] <Deltatash> nope
[20:58] <jonathan__> I have not trouble witht he settings manager...just the damn icon
[20:59] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  What command are you attempting to run?
[20:59] <jonathan__> xangua?  Compiz works...icon doesn't
[20:59] <Deltatash> it was originally "Mac OS X" with spaces but it wouldnt work so i thought the command just didnt like spaces so i renamed it by removing spaces
[20:59] <Deltatash> this one
[20:59] <Deltatash> VBoxManage: error: Could not find a registered machine named '“MacOSX”
[20:59] <Deltatash> oops sorry 1 sec
[20:59] <detrix42> is there a version of the kernel, compiled for a netbook?
[20:59] <Deltatash> VBoxManage setextradata “MacOSX” “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[20:59] <Deltatash> that one
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: i believe its in nvidia xserver settings / then go to xserver display configuration
[21:00] <xangua> jonathan__: fusion icon doesn't support indicator as far as i know, please use compiz setting manager ;)
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: you can get to nvidaia xserver settings by going to dash and typing nvidia
[21:00] <TK5791> geoffmcc: cheers dude
[21:00] <geoffmcc> TK5791: no prob
[21:00] <jonathan__> xangua...thanks.
[21:01] <Deltatash> am I right JetJaguar, open terminal CD to VM location and then VBoxManage setextradata “MacOSX” “CustomVideoMode1″ “1280×800×32”
[21:01] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  What output do you get from "VBoxManage list"?
[21:01] <Jragon> Sorry to sound noobish, but how do you install flash.. It wont let me do it via the software centre LS
[21:01] <Deltatash> ill pastebin it 1 sec
[21:02] <nook> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ;-)
[21:02] <Deltatash> here you go JetJaguar http://pastebin.com/f23nbFNb
[21:03] <Jragon> Thanks :)
[21:03] <moxie> oops meant to join #debian
[21:03] <nook> but u have to enable the non free sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:04] <Deltatash> any ideas JetJaguar ?
[21:04] <JetJaguar> Deltatash  Try your command without the quotes around the machine name...
[21:04] <Deltatash> ok
[21:04] <Jragon> Distro upgrade?
[21:05] <Deltatash> *****
[21:05] <Deltatash> it worked
[21:05] <Deltatash> lol
[21:05] <JetJaguar> Awesome
[21:05] <Deltatash> thanks JetJaguar :D
[21:05] <JetJaguar> Yep
[21:05] <Deltatash> the website i used told me the quotes was needed :s
[21:05] <Deltatash> now to test if it had an effect on my VM xD
[21:05] <JetJaguar> Probably if you have spaces in the name.
[21:05] <xangua> Jragon: enable partner repository to install adobe flash plugin
[21:05] <Deltatash> yeah
[21:05] <xangua> !partner
[21:05] <Jragon> xangua, how do I do that?
[21:06] <detrix42> is there a version of the kernel, compiled for a netbook?
[21:06] <xangua> Jragon: read the factoid i just send you...
[21:07] <Jragon> xangua, alright.. Now what?"
[21:08] <JetJaguar> I love it when a plan comes together
[21:08] <jason00> Question - Does anybody know how I can import music from my ipod into Ubuntu? I know I can "sync" it, but is that a 1 way sync or would that sync my iPod to my empty Music folder within Ubuntu?
[21:09] <xangua> Jragon: now reload repositories and install adobe-flashplugin
[21:09] <pythonirc101> How can i make my ubuntu box not start in text mode and automatically login into my account?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> flashplugun-installer
[21:10] <xangua> jason00: you can use gtkpod to manage your iphone music and files, that is one way