[12:15] <jacob_> all i did was install mplayer from the terminal
[12:15] <ruzzz> help me please
[12:15] <ruzzz> i bad speak english,but ...
[12:15] <ruzzz> i download kubuntu and ubuntu iso-images, write on CD-RW by NERO 7, start, but error:
[12:15] <ruzzz> (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through
[12:15] <Phantom> help mister wizard how do I get vmware to install ?
[12:15] <jacob> THIS is where it at i think
[12:15] <jacob> wine z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe
[12:15] <ardchoille> ruzzz: What is your native language?
[12:15] <jacob> without the wine at front
[12:15] <jacob_> i want to remove mplayer and i need somebody to help me install quicktime
[12:16] <ruzzz> russian
[12:16] <Biovore> !vmware
[12:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:16] <Biovore> !ru
[12:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:16] <ardchoille> ruzzz: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-ru ?
[12:16] <vzduch> jacob: then you should be able to start it w/ that path
[12:16] <jacob> okay i typed in wine z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe - opengl
[12:16] <jacob_> can you tell me how to make it work in that path?
[12:16] <jacob> and it says
[12:16] <Phantom> I have downloaded the file but don't know how to make it install ?
[12:16] <corey_> could someont tell me how i can install Tar.gz files please..
[12:17] <jacob> wine: cannot find 'z:homejacobwarcraft'
[12:17] <ruzzz> yes, but ...
[12:17] <Biovore> corey_: tar.gz is like a zip file..
[12:17] <ardchoille> corey_: What app is it? You may not need to compile
[12:17] <ruzzz> :(
[12:17] <corey_> 9999999Frostwire
[12:17] <corey_> **Frostwire
[12:17] <ardchoille> !frostwire
[12:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:17] <vzduch> jacob: put the path in "" if you don't know how to use escape characters :)
[12:18] <jacob_> i'm new to linux, so if your able, i need you to be a bit more specific please
[12:18] <jacob_> i don't know how to do that
[12:18] <ardchoille> jacob_: I think he was talking to the other jacob
[12:18] <raylu> corey_, do you still need help with a .tar.gz?
[12:18] <vzduch> jacob: wine "z:\home\jacob\warcraft iii\frozen throne.exe"   _with_ the quotation marks
[12:18] <jacob_> oh
[12:18] <raylu> one of you needs to change your nick :P
[12:18] <adenicio> u do noting lol,u cant do anything but reinstall it
[12:19] <ardchoille> YEs, it's confusing
[12:19] <raylu> w00t.
[12:19] <ardchoille> jfrias: Thank you :)
[12:19] <raylu> now, if only i could change my tty's resolution
[12:19] <Phantom> the tar file needs to be extracted I have done that part I need help with the next step
[12:19] <ardchoille> raylu: You can put a code at the end of the kernel line
[12:19] <Biovore> Phantom: that depends on what it is..
[12:19] <raylu> ardchoille, huh?
[12:20] <jacob> says the same thing vzduch
[12:20] <Biovore> Biovore: could try looking for a readme file. or something..
[12:20] <vzduch> hmm..
[12:20] <ardchoille> raylu: I added a code to the end of my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. the code I added was:  vga=791
[12:20] <ruzzz> i tried asking in #ubuntu-ru! But it and has not helped me!
[12:20] <jacob> anyway u can like remotely help me
[12:20] <ardchoille> raylu: That is for 1024x768 res in tty's
[12:20] <jfrias> can somebody help me install quicktime
[12:20] <raylu> oh
[12:20] <ardchoille> !quicktime
[12:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:20] <vzduch> jacob: thing that always should work: change to the directory where the .exe resides and execute from there, without giving a path
[12:21] <Phantom> Biovvore: I have a file that says installer but I how do I run it ? using ubuntu 7.04
[12:21] <jacob> what?!??!
[12:21] <ardchoille> jacob: Do you know how to navigate your file system?
[12:21] <Biovore> Phantom: if its a binary executable. you can execute it by using a shell and typeing "sh ./<filename>"
[12:21] <jacob> no
[12:21] <raylu> ardchoille, do you happen to have a list of the numbers for other resolutions?
[12:22] <jacob> im completely new to kubuntu, got it yesterday
[12:22] <ardchoille> raylu: I don't remember where I put it :(
[12:22] <Phantom> Biovore: by shell you mean from the terminal ?
[12:22] <Biovore> Phantom: yup
[12:22] <ruzzz> help me please
[12:22] <ruzzz> i bad speak english,but ...
[12:22] <ruzzz> i download kubuntu and ubuntu iso-images, write on CD-RW by NERO 7, start, but error:
[12:22] <ruzzz> busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3 - 3ubuntu 3) built-in shell(ash)
[12:22] <ruzzz> /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:22] <ruzzz> (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through
[12:22] <vzduch> jacob: cd "/home/jacob/warcraft iii/" ; wine "frozen throne.exe"
[12:22] <vzduch> !pastebin | ruzzz
[12:22] <ubotu> ruzzz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <ardchoille> raylu: This might help http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.2
[12:23] <jacob> so put that in konsole vzduch?
[12:23] <vzduch> jacob: yep
[12:23] <Biovore> Phantom: or in the gui to set it as exec (+x) and then just clicking on it.. (I am not sure if that works though)
[12:23] <vzduch> jacob: note that these are 2 commands
[12:24] <corey_> can someone explain to me in easy terms how to install Tar.gz
[12:24] <ardchoille> raylu: section 5.3 "What VESA modes are available to me?"
[12:24] <Min46770> wow! Free calls -  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en
[12:24] <vzduch> corey_: depends on if you have a binary there or a source tarball
[12:24] <jacob> first command says no such file or directory
[12:24] <Biovore> ruzzz: did you verify your CD after you burned it?
[12:24] <ardchoille> corey_: Have you looked at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire  ?
[12:24] <jtong> hi guys, i'm on edgy right now and would like to upgrade to vim7
[12:24] <vzduch> jacob: then the path is not correct
[12:24] <jacob> ill just reinstall it to the "windows" directory
[12:24] <jacob> yeah i installed it to my home folder
[12:25] <raylu> ardchoille, ok, here goes with 795; thanks
[12:25] <jacob> but it still makes a folder in the windows directory also
[12:25] <jtong> but adept doesn't find vim 7, why?
[12:25] <Biovore> jtong: I belive its in backports
[12:25] <corey_> ardchoille: Yes.. i downloaded the .deb file and inside i still end up with a tar.gz file
[12:25] <sstchur> i have numlock turned off, and when I press shift + 7 (home), I expect it to highlight text from my cursor to the beginning of the line.  Instead, it gives me a 7.  Is there a way in KDE to change this behavior?
[12:25] <jtong> Biovore: what's a backport?
[12:26] <cabroni> who i use 7zip?
[12:26] <jtong> Biovore: as in 7.04 package ported to 6.10 packge?
[12:26] <ardchoille> corey_: According to that page, all you need to do is double-click the .deb to install
[12:26] <Minataku> Hm
[12:26] <raylu> o.0
[12:26] <raylu> i think it's working...
[12:26] <Minataku> That's an interesting link that got spammed
 yes, ... Well, it has made Nero. It is enough of it?
[12:26] <lockd> cabroni: who uses, or how do you use?
[12:26] <ardchoille> raylu: yay!
[12:26] <vzduch> jtong: Vim 7 is in Feisty main
[12:26] <vzduch> jtong: for Edgy, I don't know
[12:26] <Biovore> jtong: looks like everyone building it from source at the moument..
[12:27] <cabroni> how use it?
[12:27] <jtong> vzduch: yeah i know and i can build using src but i want to keep it "clean"
[12:27] <raylu> cabroni, what are you trying to do?
[12:27] <ardchoille> !7zip
[12:27] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:27] <leafw> has anyone ever managed to use the modem in a T60 ?
[12:27] <cabroni> decompress a .tgz
[12:27] <ardchoille> cabroni: I think 7z files can be opened with ark
[12:27] <Minataku> Haha
[12:28] <Minataku> That link is pretty slick
[12:28] <corey_> ardchoille: i did, and it opened with Ark thats it
[12:28] <cabroni> but i see that it not have a gui version
[12:28] <raylu> wewt!
[12:28] <raylu> thanks, ardchoille
[12:28] <ardchoille> corey_: Do you have java installed?
[12:28] <ardchoille> raylu: You're welcome :)
[12:28] <jfrias> can somebody teach me how to install quicktime for linux please
[12:28] <ruzzz> All of you are borrowed?
[12:28] <jfrias> it's a tar.bz2 file
[12:29] <lockd> cabroni: ark has a GUI version
[12:29] <corey_> ardchoille: unless it came preinstalled with the CD, then no
[12:29] <x_link> ardchoille: Thanks for explaing, I really appreicate it!
[12:29] <x_link> =)
[12:29] <jfrias> i don't know how to install tar.bz2 files
[12:29] <jacob> how do i get into my files
[12:29] <jtong> what's the package management paradigm in ubuntu? u just use old package until they updatge the package for your release?
[12:29] <vzduch> ruzzz: borrowed? (??)
[12:29] <raylu> !bz | jfrias
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <ardchoille> corey_: Then you're going to ned java to use frostwire
[12:29] <raylu> o.0
[12:29] <ruzzz> or my english BAD?
[12:29] <raylu> !bz2
[12:29] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:29] <raylu> jfrias, ^
[12:29] <ardchoille> x_link: You're welcome :)
[12:29] <jfrias> yes
[12:29] <ruzzz> :( my english bad
[12:29] <leafw> jfrias:  quicktime? That's an apple thinguie, most likely not supported or only through wine for the windows version.
[12:30] <cabroni> problem solved, thanks :)
[12:30] <raylu> ruzzz, we're not paid, if that's what you're asking
[12:30] <corey_> Whichversion of Java do i download... oh my  this is soo confusing
[12:30] <jfrias> leafw: are you sure?
[12:30] <raylu> corey_, for what?
[12:30] <jfrias> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3
[12:30] <ardchoille> !java | corey_
[12:30] <ubotu> corey_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:30] <jfrias> go to that site
[12:30] <jfrias> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3
[12:30] <x_link> ardchoille: But I unfortunaly didn't understand =/
[12:31] <leafw> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/
[12:31] <jfrias> leaftw: down, where it says source code
[12:31] <ardchoille> x_link: Ok, I'll try and help. How far have you gotten?
[12:31] <ardchoille> !seveas
[12:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:31] <x_link> ardchoille: I haven't fixed the repo yet.
[12:31] <x_link> I really don't get it =/
[12:32] <leafw> jfrias: cinelerra is a totally different thing than quicktime.
[12:32] <x_link> ardchoille: Can you give me the link again?
[12:32] <Geekosaur> Greetings and Salutatioons, y'all
[12:32] <ruzzz> All of you are was engaged in business and you do not have business up to me
[12:32] <x_link> Ahh I found it.
[12:32] <ardchoille> x_link: Here's the link but I'll try and walk you through it  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:32] <jfrias> it says "quicktime4linux"
[12:32] <lockd> isn't cinelerra an editor and quicktime a player?
[12:32] <jfrias> leafw: it says "quicktime4linux"
[12:33] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej, thanks.
[12:33] <jfrias> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3
[12:33] <ardchoille> x_link: First of all, open a terminal
[12:33] <jfrias> leafw: check again
[12:33] <x_link> ardchoille: done
[12:33] <leafw> jfrias: true. Who knows what parts of quicktime it supports. I nany case, then just get it and make + make install
[12:33] <jfrias> leafw: or just put quicktime for linux in google, and click on the first result
[12:33] <ruzzz> what is message (install time):  /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:33] <ardchoille> x_link: You will need authentication keys for the repo. type this: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[12:34] <ruzzz> and           (initramfs)[72.144000]  sdb: assuming drive cashe: write through
[12:34] <x_link> Don't I need to add the repo first ardchoille ?
[12:34] <ardchoille> x_link: not yet
[12:34] <jfrias> leafw: do you know how to install tar.bz2 files?
[12:34] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej.
[12:34] <ardchoille> x_link: now type this: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:34] <[ifr0g] > what does rootnoverify really men
[12:34] <[ifr0g] > mean ?
[12:34] <leafw> jfrias: that is a compresed format. Just unack it first.
[12:35] <[ifr0g] > from Grub.
[12:35] <leafw> jfrias: tar xvjf myfile.tar.bz2
[12:35] <x_link> ardchoille: Done.
[12:35] <ruzzz> Well help the beginner in Kubuntu
[12:35] <leafw> jfrias: it menas, it contains source code, so you'll need to compile it afterwards.
[12:35] <[ifr0g] > what do they mean by ""This is useful for when an OS is outside of the area of the disk that GRUB can read, ?
[12:35] <ardchoille> raylu: In the time it takes to open and get into kgpg, he could type the comands and be done
[12:35] <jfrias> leafw: do i need to enter root
[12:36] <jfrias> leafw: do i need to type sudo su?
[12:36] <raylu> ardchoille, in the time he mistypes the commands, he could have installed kgpg :P
[12:36] <Prophezy> do anyone know why, when i click on my Knetworkmanager in the menu nothing happens??
[12:36] <ardchoille> x_link: Ok, open your /etc/apt/sources.list as root - which ever way is comfy for you
[12:36] <leafw> jfrias: not at all if you don't need to install system wide. You can just leave the files where they are. Or install to a local dir to your home folder.
[12:36] <Ace2016> sudo -s
[12:36] <x_link> ardchoille: Done.
[12:36] <ardchoille> raylu: Don't be facetious :P
[12:36] <leafw> jfrias: just unpack and read the README in the folder.
[12:36] <ruzzz> It is a lot of you, really nobody will help
[12:36] <jfrias> leafw: ok, i'll get in root
[12:37] <leafw> jfrias: you don't need root to unpack or to compile.
[12:37] <Ace2016> sudo checkinstall -D instead of make install, its easier to remove it then
[12:37] <lockd> ruzzz: what are you trying to do?
[12:37] <vzduch> leafw: which would commonly require a '--prefix=home/$user/$path' to be set
[12:37] <leafw> vzduch : hopefully explained in the README ...
[12:37] <ruzzz> i trying install kubuntu 7 from live cd
[12:37] <ardchoille> x_link: you on feisty?
[12:38] <x_link> ardchoille: Kubuntu 7.04
[12:38] <ruzzz> but see message about error
[12:38] <vzduch> leafw: never really seen a README that explains that for non-technical users
[12:38] <x_link> I guess that's Feisty.
[12:38] <ardchoille> x_link: ok, that's feisty
[12:38] <x_link> Okej =)
[12:38] <x_link> New on Kubuntu =)
[12:38] <ardchoille> x_link: at the bottom of your sources, add: deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[12:39] <vzduch> jfrias: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <lockd> ruzzz: live cd as in one from the Desktop iso?
[12:39] <leafw> vzduch : some do. Otherwise 'info configure'
[12:39] <vzduch> jfrias: sudo apt-get build-dep $nameOfTheProgramYouWantToBuild
[12:39] <leafw> vzduch : .. will tell you.
[12:39] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej.
[12:39] <jfrias> ok let me get my ubuntu cd to install it
[12:39] <ardchoille> x_link: and then add: deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[12:39] <jfrias> thx
[12:40] <lockd> ruzzz: can you pastebin the error?  Or can you get online at all?
[12:40] <x_link> ardchoille: Done.
[12:40] <lockd> ruzzz: err, WEb client
[12:40] <raylu> hm...
[12:40] <raylu> so how do i set the font for my tty font now? :P
[12:40] <ardchoille> x_link: save the file. in the terminal, type: sudo apt-get update
[12:40] <x_link> I did that
[12:40] <x_link> .
[12:41] <ardchoille> x_link: ok, now type: apt-cache search --names-only w32codecs
[12:41] <ardchoille> and see if it's there
[12:41] <x_link> aw32codecs - Win32 codec binaries
[12:41] <x_link> Now sudo aptitude install w32codecs I guess?
[12:42] <ardchoille> yes
[12:42] <x_link> Doing that now =)
[12:42] <ruzzz> pastebin the error - it is - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[12:42] <x_link> THanks ardchoille !!
[12:42] <x_link> ruzzz: Yeah.
[12:42] <x_link> ruzzz: That's a pastebin-site.
[12:43] <jfrias> leafw: i need to reboot, i'll be back
[12:43] <ardchoille> x_link: the gpg stuff was to add keys to your keyring to authenticate packages from the new repo. add the deb lines was to add the new repo to your sources. And, well, you know the rest :)
[12:43] <smax> hi
[12:43] <ardchoille> x_link: fwiw, I feel you should familiarise yourself with how the sources work with your package manager
[12:43] <x_link> ardchoille: Yeah I know all of that =)
[12:44] <smax> i installed the package libnet1 from apt.  yet find / | grep libnet.a  does not exist.
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: I just didn't understand which repo to use, that's all =)
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: I really appreicate your help, thanks alot man!
[12:44] <jacob> OMG HOE DO I OPEN FROZEN THRONE.EXE WITH WINE!
[12:44] <x_link> I will see ofI can watch movies with mplayer now
[12:44] <ruzzz> i dont understand what is <syntax> on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:44] <raylu> jacob, did you read the appdb about it?
[12:44] <ardchoille> x_link: there's only one repo. but the sections can be confusing. you're using the "all" meta section.
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: Cause with VLC I can't fast forward anymore or take it back, cause then the movie starts over again.
[12:44] <raylu> this is epic failure...my CONSOLE is LAGGING at this resolution...holy crap
[12:44] <x_link> Wasn't like this in Debian.
[12:44] <x_link> ardchoille: Okej.
[12:45] <x_link> Thanks again! =)
[12:45] <jacob> whats appdb
[12:45] <vzduch> ruzzz: normally not needed, it's for markup if you're pasting e.g. source code or something
[12:45] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[12:45] <raylu> jacob, http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:45] <jacob> i mean, not just open it
[12:45] <jacob> but open with opengl
[12:45] <x_link> Damn it, still can't watch movies in mplayer.
[12:45] <ruzzz> ah, understand, sanx
[12:45] <x_link> Fatal error!
[12:45] <raylu> jacob...if it runs fine...why do you need to specify opengl?
[12:46] <x_link> Erro opening/initializing the selection video_out (-vo) device.
[12:46] <x_link> I get that message.
[12:46] <ardchoille> x_link: try xine
[12:46] <x_link> What does that mean?
[12:46] <x_link> ok
[12:46] <jacob> its quite choppy
[12:46] <ardchoille> x_link: it means you need to tweak the setting for your video out device
[12:46] <jacob> i thought that would make it better?
[12:46] <x_link> ardchoille: Ohh, where do I do that?
[12:47] <x_link> ardchoille: didn't find xine
[12:47] <Apollodoros> hello
[12:47] <Apollodoros> How can I set manually required reso and refresh rate in X.conf?
[12:47] <adenicio> x_link: wa is xine?
[12:47] <ardchoille> x_link: You have to install xine, but let's try to get your video working in mplayer now
[12:47] <ardchoille> !info xine
[12:47] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:47] <x_link> ardchoille: I tried to install it, but didn't find it.
[12:48] <ardchoille> ubotu: you're full of crap too
[12:48] <ardchoille> !xine
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <jacob_> my disk tray doesnt want to close
[12:48] <x_link> There is totem-xine. But not xine only.
[12:48] <jacob_> what's wrong with it?
[12:48] <adenicio> ardchoille: lol
[12:48] <x_link> !totem-xine
[12:48] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:48] <adenicio> !wine
[12:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
 And when to me will answer
[12:48] <jacob_> can somebody help me, it probably doesn't wanna close cause of ubuntu
[12:48] <ardchoille> !info xine-ui
[12:48] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4+dfsg+cvs20061111-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1483 kB, installed size 3532 kB
[12:48] <jacob_> when i had windows it closes
[12:48] <adenicio> !gnu
[12:48] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[12:48] <ardchoille> Thought so, it's just named differently
[12:49] <adenicio> !windows
[12:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:49] <adenicio> !vlc
[12:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:49] <vzduch> Apollodoros: refresh & sync rates are in the 'Section "Device"' for your display, syntax is self-explanatory (if you already have values for HorizSync and VertRefresh, that is)
[12:49] <ardchoille> x_link: xine-ui is xine
[12:50] <x_link> ok
[12:50] <vzduch> Apollodoros: you will find the resolutions yourself, everyone should know what a resolution indication looks like ;)
[12:50] <ardchoille> x_link: mplayer -> preferences -> Video
[12:50] <x_link> ok
[12:50] <adenicio> oh
[12:50] <x_link> ardchoille: Then?
[12:51] <ardchoille> x_link: try a different driver
[12:52] <x_link> ardchoille: ok
[12:53] <x_link> ardchoille: I choosed X11, now it works =)
[12:53] <ardchoille> x_link: :)
[12:53] <adenicio> how to install the cube on kubuntu?
[12:53] <adenicio> berly etc...
[12:54] <ardchoille> adenicio: You might want to join #ubuntu-effects
[12:54] <x_link> ardchoille: hehe can't get fullscreen though
[12:55] <ardchoille> x_link: Does it work if you full screen mplayer and then start the video?
[12:55] <x_link> I just had to change something in video =)
[12:56] <ardchoille> ok
[12:57] <adenicio> ardchoille: how many chat room it have i only got kubuntu
[12:57] <x_link> ardchoille: Thanks alot again!
[12:57] <ardchoille> x_link: You're welcome :)
[12:57] <vzduch> adenicio: ?
[12:57] <ardchoille> adenicio: #ubuntu-effects is for things like beryl and compiz
[01:00] <adenicio> ardchoille: no anserring me
[01:01] <ardchoille> adenicio: Ok, sorry about that.
[01:01] <ardchoille> I thought if anyone would know they would
[01:02] <[ifr0g] > how do i install grub if i dont have the stage1 in my root partion ?
[01:02] <[ifr0g] >  in /boot dir.
[01:02] <ardchoille> !grub
[01:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:02] <adenicio> !berly
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <ardchoille> !beryl
[01:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:04] <adenicio> !3ddesktop
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <solarwaver> if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??
[01:04] <ardchoille> !info 3ddesktop
[01:04] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:09] <vzduch> good night ppl :)
[01:09] <Mr_Sonoma> im having a bit of a network issue, 2 computers both running kubuntu and only one can see the net through the router, from what i see in the knetworkmanager both systems seem to have recognised with the same dns and route settings
[01:09] <Mr_Sonoma> where else should i look?
[01:10] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: did you forward any ports to the machine that sees the 'net?
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> no
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> just plugged it it
[01:10] <vzduch> hmm
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> in
[01:10] <Mr_Sonoma> even
[01:10] <ice9> how do I install a ,rpm file?
[01:10] <vzduch> so that shouldn't be the issue
[01:11] <Mr_Sonoma> both are running 7.04
[01:11] <jacob> okay does anyone know how i  can open warcraft 3 the frozen throne in opengl
[01:11] <stoned> !alien
[01:11] <vzduch> ice9: you don't, you look for a .deb w/ that name
[01:11] <Mr_Sonoma> i puzzled all night just about last night.
[01:11] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:11] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[01:11] <ardchoille> ice9: You don't, look in the repos for the app or find a ubuntu deb. using alien is dangerous.
[01:11] <stoned> no it isn't
[01:11] <ardchoille> ice9: Which app is it?
[01:11] <jacob> hello?
[01:11] <stoned> it CAN be
[01:11] <stoned> but it isn't always
[01:12] <ice9> 3ddesktop
[01:12] <ardchoille> stoned: If there's a question of whether it's dangerous or not, then it's dangerous, IMHO.
[01:12] <stoned> ardchoille: not always.
[01:13] <ardchoille> No need in recommending something that has the possibility of breaking someone's system.
[01:13] <vzduch> !info 3ddesktop
[01:13] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:13] <ardchoille> ice9: Which app is the rpm?
[01:13] <vzduch> ice9: sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop
[01:13] <stoned> I suppose it isn't dangerous for me, I know what I am doing
[01:13] <solarwaver> if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??
[01:14] <solarwaver> is anyone knows if u do format and put windows lilo configuration is still on value??
[01:14] <vzduch> solarwaver: you need to update LILO (or any boot manager, for that matter) if you change something in your setup
[01:15] <jacob> HELLO?!?!?!? does anyone know how i can open frozen throne.exe in opengl with WINE
[01:15] <stoned> jacob: #cedega
[01:15] <bharath> can anyone plz tell me if there is a non-GUI equivalent for wireshark (ethereal)?
[01:15] <stoned> afaik it won't run without it
[01:15] <jacob> cedega costs
[01:15] <stoned> copy protected cd
[01:15] <stoned> wine doesn't do copy protections
[01:15] <jacob> what?
[01:15] <solarwaver> hi vzduch how can i update lilo u mean to start after puting win with the cd
[01:15] <jacob> ive already installed it
[01:15] <stoned> why?
[01:16] <jacob> i just need to open it with opengl now cus the texts are screwed up
[01:16] <vzduch> solarwaver: I haven't used LILO for quite a while.. I guess you need to start your live CD after installing Win & reinstall LILO
[01:16] <bharath> someone, can anyone plz tell me if there is a non-GUI equivalent for wireshark (ethereal)?
[01:16] <stoned> bharath: apt-cache search sniffer
[01:17] <stoned> maybe
[01:17] <vzduch> !lilo
[01:17] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[01:17] <solarwaver> vzduch how i reinsstal it?
[01:17] <vzduch> solarwaver: man lilo  should give you some clues :)
[01:17] <solarwaver> how i reinstall grub
[01:18] <vzduch> !grub
[01:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:18] <jacob> how do i change my name on irc here
[01:18] <vzduch> jacob: /nick newNick
[01:19] <stoned> jacob: /nick stoned_is_great
[01:19] <stoned> ehehe
[01:19] <vzduch> you better not change too often, some ops don't like that :)
[01:19] <stoned> Jacob88: install ktorrent
[01:20] <stoned> or just click a torrent link and it will open it
[01:20] <Jacob88> already have it i think
[01:20] <stoned> and start to download
[01:20] <[ifr0g] > does find in grub find files which are not even mounted ??
[01:20] <stoned> search google
[01:20] <stoned> tons of tutorials on torrents
[01:20] <stoned> thats how i downloaded kubuntu
[01:20] <stoned> utnubuk
[01:20] <stoned> ahaha
[01:20] <stoned> oot noo book
[01:20] <stoned> koob oon too
[01:20] <solarwaver> vzduch i print !grub and is instaling it by itself?
[01:21] <stoned> im a genius
[01:21] <vzduch> solarwaver: read the howto, it says what to do
[01:22] <vzduch> anyway, I wanted to go to bed.. so I'll be gone now :)
[01:22] <Jacob88> how do i go through my files? like say i want to navigate through my files like windows
[01:23] <[ifr0g] > solarwaver, sorry ?
[01:24] <[ifr0g] > JohanSalim, duh ! using a file manager !
[01:24] <solarwaver> thanx
[01:24] <solarwaver> i read it
[01:25] <solarwaver> ifrog ?????????
[01:25] <Jacob88>  how do i go through my files? like say i want to navigate through my files like window
[01:25] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, ^^ Filemanager.
[01:26] <[ifr0g] > konqueror
[01:26] <[ifr0g] > solarwaver, i did not get what you were trying to say.
[01:26] <Jacob88> er
[01:26] <Jacob88> i want to get to my c drive how would i do that
[01:26] <underdog5004> Jacob88, there is no c: drive
[01:26] <solarwaver> what do u mean sorry ?
[01:27] <Jacob88> yes, i have a c drive trust me
[01:27] <Jacob88> i created it
[01:27] <ice9> lol
[01:27] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, open up konqueror and browes to /media/ Should be mounted there.
[01:27] <underdog5004> Jacob88, do you see the thing that looks like a Globe with gear teeth around it? That's the file manager
[01:27] <underdog5004> use that
[01:27] <bharath> @stoned: thanks, i think tshark will do the job
[01:27] <[ifr0g] > :D
[01:27] <underdog5004> Jacob88, do you have windows installed as well?
[01:27] <Jacob88> no
[01:28] <Jacob88>    Home Folder
[01:28] <underdog5004> then you don't have a c: drive. Linux doesn't assign random letters to drives
[01:28] <Jacob88> Your personal files      Storage Media
[01:28] <Jacob88> Disks and removable media
[01:29] <Jacob88>      Network Folders
[01:29] <Jacob88> Shared files and folders      Trash
[01:29] <Jacob88> Browse and restore the trash
[01:29] <Jacob88>      Applications
[01:29] <Jacob88> Installed programs      About Kubuntu
[01:29] <Jacob88> Kubuntu Documentation
[01:29] <Jacob88> thats all thats there
[01:29] <underdog5004> Jacob88, all your personal folders are in Home Folder
[01:29] <Jacob88> no not that.
[01:29] <underdog5004> what do you mean?
[01:29] <Jacob88> is there no way to navigate through ALL of my computers files and drives
[01:29] <underdog5004> yes
[01:29] <underdog5004> open konqueror
[01:29] <underdog5004> then you can go anywhere you like
[01:30] <ardchoille> !bash | Jacob88
[01:30] <ubotu> Jacob88: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:30] <underdog5004> open up the k-menu, go to Internet, then click on konqueror
[01:30] <Jacob88> yeah im on that
[01:30] <[ifr0g] > can find in grub find a file that is not even mounted ?
[01:30] <underdog5004> Jacob88, in the address bar, just type a /
[01:30] <underdog5004> then you can browse all your stuff
[01:31] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , grub is a bootloader
[01:31] <Jacob88> An error occurred while loading locate:a+/:
[01:31] <Jacob88> The file or folder  does not exist.
[01:31] <underdog5004> Jacob88, just the /
[01:31] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, yes i am aware of that.
[01:32] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , do you mean "Can it detect partitions/drives that aren't mounted?"?
[01:32] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, huh, i was guessing files which are present in an unmounted partition.
[01:33] <Jacob88> i have  z,c,d,e drives
[01:33] <Jacob88> z is main one
[01:33] <Jacob88> d and e are cd ones
[01:33] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , grub isn't going to give you access to files...it will only load kernels
[01:33] <Jacob88> and c is where a game is i installed
[01:33] <underdog5004> Jacob88, why do you say that? Linux doesn't use that format for drives. They should be /dev/hda1, /dev/hdb, etc...
[01:34] <Jacob88> im just looking at WINE
[01:34] <Jacob88> wine says those are my drives
[01:34] <ice9> lol thats a wndows emulator
[01:34] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, huh, but i can tell you in which device a file is present.
[01:34] <ice9> it has to emular a c:/ drive so that it can load windows games properly
[01:34] <underdog5004> Jacob88, those aren't real drives, those are virtual drives.
[01:34] <[ifr0g] > underdog5004, Check the man. Under find.
[01:34] <underdog5004> [ifr0g] , oh, ok
[01:34] <Jacob88> so where would this game be then?
[01:34] <last> what link irc kubunbu portuguese ??
[01:35] <underdog5004> Jacob88, have you installed the game with wine?
[01:35] <ardchoille> !pt
[01:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:35] <last> Thanks
[01:35] <Jacob88> yes
[01:35] <ice9> ./wine/drive_c usually
[01:35] <ice9> I mean /.wine/drive_c
[01:35] <underdog5004> look in your kmenu under lost+found...it may be in there
[01:36] <ardchoille> underdog5004: Do apps installed via wine even have kmenu entries?
[01:36] <Jacob88> er what folder is wine located in
[01:36] <ice9> home
[01:36] <underdog5004> ardchoille, I've seen it, sometimes
[01:36] <underdog5004> Jacob88, /home/username/.wine
[01:36] <Jacob88> its not in my home folder
[01:36] <underdog5004> Jacob88, yes, yes it is
[01:36] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, do you know how you use konsole ?
[01:36] <ardchoille> Jacob88: ~/.wine
[01:36] <ice9> Ardchoille, not kmenu, they can have desktop icon shortcuts though
[01:37] <ardchoille> ice9: Ah, ok
[01:37] <Jacob88> yes
[01:37] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, please run this.. in it..
[01:37] <[ifr0g] > konqueror /home/`whoami`/.wine/
[01:37] <Jacob88> AH! i found it
[01:37] <underdog5004> just paste it in
[01:38] <Jacob88> just typed in /home/jacob/.wine
[01:38] <Jacob88> in address bar
[01:38] <Jacob88> thanks
[01:38] <underdog5004> no problem
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > :)
[01:38] <[ifr0g] > pheww.
[01:38] <ardchoille> Jacob88: "~" is a shortcut for /home/YUOR_USERNAME/
[01:39] <underdog5004> I'm out for a bit
[01:39] <Jacob88> anyway i can tell konsole to open this file with opengl
[01:39] <ice9> ya
[01:40] <ice9> but I think you can with the command winecfg too
[01:40] <[ifr0g] > What the diff bet hda and sda ?
[01:40] <[ifr0g] > devices*
[01:40] <ardchoille> usually hda is IDE and sda is SCSI or a USB device
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > Jacob88, everything you install with wine comes in the kde menu...under wine.
[01:41] <ardchoille> some USB mp3 players get recognised as sda
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, interesting.
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > so i have an internal usb drive ..
[01:41] <[ifr0g] > Nice.
[01:42] <Jacob88> so
[01:42] <ardchoille> [ifr0g] : or you have SCSI dirves :)
[01:42] <Jacob88> how can i open this game aka "frozen throne.exe" with wine IN open gl
[01:42] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, lol ok ..:)
[01:43] <ardchoille> Jacob88: Does wine recognise openGL? Sounds like you're trying to merge two different technologies
[01:43] <elite101> hey does photoshop7 work good with WINE?
[01:43] <ardchoille> But I could be wrong.
[01:43] <ice9> jacob88, wine (filename.exe) opengl
[01:43] <Jacob88> er
[01:44] <Jacob88> jacob@JakesComp:~$ wine frozen throne.exe opengl
[01:44] <Jacob88> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\frozen.exe": Module not found
[01:44] <[ifr0g] > elite101, they did get it to work, if i last recall. do google for the guide.
[01:45] <underdog5004> Jacob88, I'm not sure, but it may be wine C:\path\to\the\exe
[01:45] <[ifr0g] > <Jacob88>  wine frozen\ throne.exe
[01:45] <ice9> ya I had some problems getting opengl working too, try going into the #wine channel, they may know more there
[01:46] <Jacob88> #wine
[01:47] <[ifr0g] > #winehq
[01:47] <Jacob88> #winehq
[01:47] <ardchoille> /join #winehq
[01:48] <Jacob88> how can i get frozen throne.exe to do in opengl
[01:48] <Jacob88> oops wrong channel
[01:48] <[ifr0g] > :)
[01:49] <ardchoille> Isn't openGL for Linux and ActiveX for Windows? Shouldn't that game be using ActiveX ?
[01:50] <ice9> windows uses opengl too
[01:50] <killown> nautilus show me preview of musics when I touch point mouse on music but konqueror not ..does konqueror have support fo do it?
[01:50] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, if it is.. then winewill automatically download it.
[01:50] <[ifr0g] > ardchoille, it did so when i played cs1.6
[01:51] <nicolas> anyone knows the right way to dial an adsl ?
[01:51] <killown> nicolas pppoeconf
[01:51] <ardchoille> killown: "show" a preview of a music file? I'm confused. But I do know that knoqueror can do previews.
[01:51] <nicolas> killown: is there a kde tool for this ?
[01:51] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, do you have a router ?
[01:52] <nicolas> [ifr0g] : no
[01:52] <ardchoille> killown: konq -> prefences -> Misc Options section in the Behaviour tab
[01:52] <killown> nautilus have support for do it
[01:52] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, huh, so an adsl modem .. usb ?
[01:52] <nicolas> the problem is i have to explain how to do this on the phone
[01:52] <nicolas> [ifr0g] : ethernt
[01:53] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, what hardware exactly ?
[01:54] <nicolas> i just need to know if there is a kde tool to dial an adsl
[01:54] <nicolas> [ifr0g] : can't tell what the modem is, they say nothing is written on it
[01:54] <nicolas> as they described, seems like an old speedstream
[01:55] <namol> adsl-config ?
[01:55] <[ifr0g] > nicolas, sorry, i did it manually..
[01:55] <nicolas> if there is a graphical tool it would help
[01:55] <yotux> I can't boot into kubuntu after an update
[01:56] <yotux> something about bin/bash
[01:56] <[ifr0g] > yotux, and error would be help ful.
[01:56] <[ifr0g] > an*
[01:57] <namol> nicolas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:58] <nicolas> namol: thanks
[01:58] <[ifr0g] > namol, i was just looking at that page .. but no graphical tool there..
[01:59] <yotux> ifrOg:  i have a past bin of what the screen says
[01:59] <namol> nicolas: try kppp?
[01:59] <yotux> link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31850/
[02:02] <Silent_G> hello can someone tell me how to make networking on linux
[02:02] <Silent_G> the other computer is windows
[02:02] <Silent_G> i want to share files and printers
[02:02] <Silent_G> i want to be able to browse the other computer's shared folders
[02:02] <yotux> I think you need samba
[02:03] <Silent_G> i installed it
[02:03] <Silent_G> but i dont know how to use it :S
[02:03] <BluesKaj> samba and smb4k network browser
[02:03] <yotux> I have not used it yet myself sorry
[02:04] <[ifr0g] > yotux, could you get the menu.lst file ? some how !
[02:04] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, with smb4k i'll be able to browse the other computer and send things there?
[02:04] <BluesKaj> yes , Silent_G
[02:05] <Silent_G> OK
[02:05] <[ifr0g] > or, if you are experianced enough pls check if that file is pointing to the right parition.
[02:05] <[ifr0g] > when booting.
[02:05] <Silent_G> what configurations i must do first? and how is the other computer using windows gonna "Map" this network device?
[02:05] <BluesKaj> now if the the other computer is windows , you can browse it with your linuxbox but vice versa can be a little more difficult
[02:05] <yotux> I can try,   i just did an update with apt-get dist-update
[02:06] <dec_> hello
[02:06] <Silent_G> hmm
[02:06] <Silent_G> how much difficult BluesKaj ? :o
[02:06] <[ifr0g] > yotux, you mean dist-upgrade
[02:06] <yotux> yes very sorry
[02:06] <BluesKaj> it can be done , but it takes a bit of research , Silent_G
[02:07] <Silent_G> ic
[02:07] <Silent_G> can you help me in it?
[02:07] <[ifr0g] > yotux, or you could try booting into recovery mode or the previous kernel from that menu.
[02:07] <BluesKaj> I had it working bothways for a while, til I upgraded to feisty
[02:07] <Silent_G> ic
[02:08] <Juno> does anyone in here speak german?
[02:08] <yotux> ifr0g: that is what I am going to try
[02:08] <[ifr0g] > ok
[02:08] <BluesKaj> setting up to browse from linux ...I can help ...browsing from the windows pc , I can't :(
[02:09] <BluesKaj> !de | Juno
[02:09] <ubotu> Juno: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:11] <bishnu_> how could I change the bit rate on wireless connection?
[02:11] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, Smb4k is showing that my network is MSHOME, how can i change it to a different name?
[02:11] <phyeradmin> hello, sorry to be repetitive but im still encountering that broken python package in adept and i need the command for flushing the cashe so i can at least try to get synaptic
[02:12] <[ifr0g] > bishnu_, check on the iwconfig man page.
[02:12] <bishnu_> thx
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Silent_G:  that the default name when connecting to a windows pc
[02:12] <[ifr0g] > Anytime ;)
[02:12] <Silent_G> yes
[02:12] <Silent_G> but i changed my mother's to HOME
[02:12] <Silent_G> instead of MSHOME
[02:12] <Silent_G> cause i dont like MSHOME lol
[02:12] <Silent_G> how can i change mine to HOME?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> don't , just leave it , Silent_G ...it doesn't matter
[02:14] <[ifr0g] > phyeradmin, cashe ?
[02:14] <jacob> i need somebody's help, my laptop's disk tray will not close, i suspect that software issue locks my disk tray and doesn't let it close
[02:14] <jacob> could it be linux? when i had windows the disk tray will open and close correctly
[02:14] <elite101> how do u change the apperance of kubuntu the colour scheme?
[02:14] <[ifr0g] > jacob, eject -t
[02:15] <elite101> how do u change the apperance of kubuntu the colour scheme?
[02:15] <[ifr0g] > elite101, k > system settings > appearance
[02:15] <phyeradmin> ifr0g: probably bad terminolgy but its a broken python package I need out the system so I can get other things installed
[02:15] <phyeradmin> other than that im stuck withthat warning
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > phyeradmin, oh, you mean a corrupted downloaded file.
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > phyeradmin, sudo apt-get clean
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > should clear that.
[02:16] <jacob> ifr0g: my disk tray is open but it doesn't want to close
[02:16] <phyeradmin> i guess...i cant even be sure if it even installed
[02:16] <phyeradmin> ok thanks
[02:16] <jacob> i write that command in the terminal, the one you just sent me and it doesn't go
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > jacob, run the command i just said above^
[02:17] <jacob> i did
[02:17] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: have you tried , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[02:17] <phyeradmin> whats that?
[02:17] <jacob> ifr0g, i did
[02:17] <BluesKaj> unlocks a stalled install
[02:18] <phyeradmin> hmm, lemme try that
[02:18] <[ifr0g] > jacob,  does it happen on any other os ?
[02:18] <[ifr0g] > distro*
[02:19] <jacob> ifr0g, before i had windows and it worked fine, after installing linux about a month ago it also worked fine, but i suspect is a software issue cause i don't see how it could be a hardware problem
[02:20] <jacob> if i hold the disk tray closed, it reads cds
[02:20] <nicolas> jacob: maybe if you open the drive you will see
[02:20] <squirrel> how would I be able to improve wireless speed
[02:21] <squirrel> in Windows, it's fast. but in Ubuntu it's slow
[02:21] <squirrel> I disabled ipv6
[02:21] <squirrel> still not much improvement
[02:21] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, how fast ?
[02:21] <squirrel> it takes more than a minute to load some pages
[02:22] <jacob> ifr0g: it says "unable to mount media.  there is probably no media in the drive"
[02:22] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, i would not blame the wifi for that.
[02:22] <phyeradmin> that phython package is still preventing me from getting anything else
[02:22] <squirrel> looking at iwconfig bit rate shows 11 MB/s but waiting for web page to load is painful
[02:22] <phyeradmin> at 1st it was both the main python file and the DEV on...now its just the main file
[02:23] <phyeradmin> so they MUST know its jacked up right?!
[02:24] <[ifr0g] > phoenixz, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:24] <[ifr0g] > jacob, its some how reading the disk when its ejected.
[02:25] <squirrel> anybody who has solved slow wireless problem in ubuntu?
[02:25] <[ifr0g] > and not closing it as a busy signal.
[02:25] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, pls, transfer a file to check its real speed.
[02:25] <arenner> When installing ubuntu, can I make the installation a fairly barebones kde install, or am I forced to install a bunch of other stuff like openoffice?
[02:25] <jacob> ifr0g: i'm using a laptop, the disk tray is open, but when i hold it closed (even though it doesn't lock) it reads the cd, but not fully closed
[02:25] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:26] <squirrel> how do I transfer a file
[02:26] <jacob> ifr0g: when i hold it closed it reads cds
[02:26] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, over ftp or samba ..etc localy...
[02:26] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: you have to relogin , afterwards
[02:26] <ardchoille> squirrel: Transfer? From a folder to a folder? Device to device? Computer to computer?
[02:27] <squirrel> I am talking about Internet download and upload
[02:27] <squirrel> I think local transfer is fast
[02:27] <intelikey> jacob sounds like you are describing broken hardware
[02:27] <squirrel> haven't fully checked yet. got this machine only yesterday
[02:27] <ardchoille> squirrel: You can do ftp transfers with konqueror
[02:27] <squirrel> ok
[02:27] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, then download something.. and notice the speed.
[02:27] <[ifr0g] > squirrel, it should be at your max download.
[02:28] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: ok, doing it now
[02:28] <squirrel> where is konqueror?
[02:29] <elite101> anybody know a good set of icons that are like black/really dark? i know there is a website but just from your experience wich one u tried is good?
[02:29] <squirrel> i can try adding a program
[02:29] <intelikey> squirrel alt+f2 konqueror  enter
[02:29] <[ifr0g] > elite101, kubuntu has similar ones in the settings.
[02:29] <Roey> hi all
[02:29] <intelikey> squirrel it's in the kmenu alos
[02:29] <intelikey> also
[02:29] <Roey> will KDE4 make it into Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:30] <intelikey> Roey not as default
[02:30] <jacob> intelikely, you could be right but i just don't see how it could be hardware
[02:30] <Roey> intelikey:  (if it'll ship by then even?)
[02:30] <Roey> intelikey:  it's slated for October
[02:30] <[ifr0g] > elite101, called monochrome
[02:30] <elite101> okay
[02:30] <intelikey> Roey no.
[02:30] <BluesKaj> not right away
[02:30] <elite101> in apperance?
[02:30] <Roey> intelikey:  k
[02:30] <[ifr0g] > elite101, yes
[02:30] <jacob> intelikely, i had a similar situation where my disk tray was open and din'
[02:30] <intelikey> Roey it is "supposed" to be in the repos but not as the defaultd
[02:30] <squirrel> didn't find konqueror
[02:31] <jacob> didn't want to close, when i shut down the computer i was able to close it
[02:31] <Roey> intelikey:  ok
[02:31] <[ifr0g] > Roey, i dought it..
[02:31] <elite101> also was wondering what kubuntu multimedia software supports .avi? tried caffeine and it doesnt work, dont need CODECS just wanna know what one supports it off that bat?
[02:31] <intelikey> squirrel kmenu > networking > konqueror
[02:32] <[ifr0g] > Roey, they both will be out in stable at preety close date releases, no time for testing .. Would be my guess.
[02:32] <intelikey> jacob try this then;     sudo eject     then close the tray
[02:32] <squirrel> I don't have kmenu. it's ubuntu - gnome 2.18.1
[02:33] <bharath> does anyone wanna help me with a simple command line problem i'm facing? it's to do with grep and tee
[02:33] <intelikey> jacob if that works it's not hardware,   if it doesn't clear it up   then it still could be.
[02:33] <[ifr0g] > bharath, shoot !
[02:33] <BluesKaj> elite101:  xine and gstreamer
[02:33] <squirrel> which group would konqueror to be under to add the program?
[02:34] <intelikey> bharath you're playing my song
[02:34] <bharath> i'm trying to capture all the http GET requests that go out of my machine. so I run this:
[02:34] <bharath> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET'
[02:34] <bharath> and it works fine
[02:34] <[ifr0g] > ok
[02:34] <bharath> but if I try to capture the same using 'tee' like this, it doesn't work:
[02:34] <bharath> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt
[02:35] <bharath> there's nothing that comes out of the console and there's nothing in the out.txt file
[02:35] <intelikey> bbarath and it can't write to the file out.tct cause you don't have permission ?
[02:35] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, smb4k is telling me for a user and password for DARKNESS(my computer/domain name)
[02:35] <intelikey> out.txt
[02:35] <bharath> i don't get any errors
[02:36] <bharath> also if i try the same tee without the 'grep' middleman, it works
[02:36] <bharath> strange
[02:36] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: still no luck
[02:36] <intelikey> bbarath what version ?   i'll do some testing.
[02:36] <phyeradmin> now its saying something called scrollkeeper is broken
[02:36] <bharath> ubuntu, fiesty
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Silent_G: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt , and then, sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[02:37] <Silent_G> :o
[02:37] <Silent_G> Ok
[02:37] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  have you tried to isolate the package that's causing the trouble ?
[02:38] <phyeradmin> its phython...its in the adept updates
[02:38] <phyeradmin> or rather its the python update
[02:38] <intelikey> bharath test this and see if it says anything: sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee /dev/stderr
[02:38] <phyeradmin> is'nt there a way to take an update off your lists?
[02:38] <[ifr0g] > bharath, yes, i am installin tshark to try it ;)
[02:39] <phyeradmin> I tried to take it off but it wont go anywhere
[02:39] <bharath> intelikey: i tried that.. no error
[02:39] <bharath> just this ->
[02:39] <intelikey> bharath any output ?
[02:39] <bharath> Capturing on eth0
[02:39] <bharath> no output too, still the same problem
[02:40] <intelikey> only one line ?      sounds like stderr rather than stdout is being used
[02:40] <squirrel> download rate is 630 byte to 13.7 kb per second maximum
[02:40] <squirrel> i just installed ark program. could not find konqueror in this ubuntu
[02:41] <BluesKaj> try to purge it in the konsole . sudo apt-get remove --purge 'application' , or you could try to use synaptic/edit/fix broken packages/apply
[02:41] <intelikey> bharath test this: echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr
[02:41] <bharath> when i try this: sudo tshark -i eth0 | tee out.txt
[02:41] <bharath> it works
[02:41] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: its Python2.5
[02:41] <squirrel> it should be downloading at least few hundred kb per second
[02:41] <bharath> somehow adding the grep inbetween causes the issue
[02:41] <bharath> ok, i'll try it
[02:42] <bharath> i get:
[02:42] <bharath> boo
[02:42] <bharath> boo
[02:42] <squirrel> XP has the speed of almost 1MPps
[02:42] <elite101> wow everything i changed is all black :S lol
[02:42] <phyeradmin> when I was 1st having this problem, it was Python2.5 & Python2.5 dev...but this time its just the Python 2.5 that gave me the issues that made me come in here for help
[02:43] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  then try to purge it out and then reinstall after relogging in
[02:43] <phyeradmin> how do i purge it?
[02:44] <phyeradmin> plus, if I tried to reinstall it, would'nt the same thing happen?
[02:44] <x_link> sudo aptitude purge filename
[02:44] <intelikey> bharath one proceedure for trubble shooting a pipe is to start at the end and remove joints:    i.e.   {tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt ; } && {tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' ; } && {tshark -i eth0 ; }           this (typo king) often finds the error in a transopsition of chars...
[02:44] <phyeradmin> bare with me...i REALLY having a time learning this linux stuff
[02:44] <intelikey> aka  pebcak
[02:46] <intelikey> bharath the   boo;boo;  proved that you can pipe into grep then into tee without complications... so i sujest you look at the command you entered again
[02:46] <[ifr0g] > bharath, :)
[02:46] <bharath> okay
[02:46] <bharath> yes ifrog
[02:46] <bharath> thanks a bunch intelikey
[02:47] <intelikey> no problem
[02:47] <[ifr0g] > bharath, what worked ?
[02:47] <bharath> nope i did not work yet... but i got some ideas
[02:47] <intelikey> [ifr0g]  echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr
[02:47] <bharath> adding the grep somehow causes the issue, if i removed that, the tee works fine
[02:47] <elite101> when u do a install of kubuntu, mine says cannot access security updates? i think its because i reinstall kubuntu without an internet connection using the livecd?
[02:47] <bharath> and adding the grep without the tee works fine too
[02:48] <bharath> just the both together don't work
[02:48] <[ifr0g] > bharath, well the solution is to use fgrep
[02:48] <intelikey> bharath grep and tee work togather   you just said they did
[02:48] <phyeradmin> BlueKaj: You there?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:48] <phyeradmin> how do I do that purge?
[02:48] <phyeradmin> and you said to reinstall python
[02:48] <bharath> nope, this doesn't work -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt
[02:48] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove --purge 'application'
[02:49] <phyeradmin> my question was: if its messed up wont reinstalling make the sae thing happen?
[02:49] <bharath> but if i just remove the tee, the grep works fine
[02:49] <[ifr0g] > bharath, sudo tshark -i eth0 | fgrep 'HTTP GET' | tee out.txt
 i get:  <bharath> boo  <bharath> boo  <<< meaning that tee outputted boo and wrote it to stderr thus two boo's from one      echo boo | grep boo | tee /dev/stderr
[02:49] <elite101> is there a screen capture program for kubuntu? i have used HyperCam2 but its only for windows (yes i used it under WINE)
[02:49] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: you can purge apps in Adept as well
[02:50] <bharath> hey, fgrep works instead of grep
[02:50] <bharath> great!
[02:50] <adenicio> bharath: u know about kopete?
[02:51] <elite101> will msn work under WINE?
[02:51] <[ifr0g] > Night all..
[02:51] <[ifr0g] > its been nice after so long to chat here :)
[02:51] <[ifr0g] > Bye.
[02:51] <elite101> Does msn work under wine?
[02:51] <intelikey> bharath now use the up arrow to make the same command again but use the left arrow and possision the cursor at the f in fgrap and hit [del]   [enter]      see if it works...
[02:52] <BluesKaj> elite101:  why don't use windows then :)
[02:52] <elite101> lol just wondering?
[02:52] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: ok...I THINK that may have did it
[02:52] <elite101> i use kopete but just wondering if it works?
[02:52] <phyeradmin> and you also said, "reinstall it"?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> amsn in linux elite101
[02:52] <bharath> adenicio: yaaa? why do ya ask?
[02:52] <elite101> yeah
[02:53] <elite101> was wondering if the new msn 8.0/8.1 works in kubuntu using wine?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  not sure if you should, maybe a nolder versdion that won't break ?
[02:53] <bharath> intelikey: i did that... and grep doesn't work, fgrep does
[02:53] <adenicio>  how to sign log out of kopete(mns) to log back in a different name?
[02:53] <bharath> just changed that one char
[02:53] <BluesKaj> are you using python for media stuff , phyeradmin ?
[02:54] <intelikey> bharath would you care to pastebin the output from both tests please   and file a bug on grep
[02:54] <bharath> okay, guess what, grep works too... only it takes longer to get the output
[02:54] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: no, i was'nt using it all...see, this is a FRESH install
[02:54] <bharath> wonder why
[02:55] <phyeradmin> all I did was tried to run the updates
[02:55] <ice9_> whats the command to find my local ip
[02:55] <phyeradmin> and it gets to that and BOOM, falls apart
[02:55] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: strange ...
[02:55] <temuchin> ifconfig
[02:55] <phyeradmin> but when I look at it, its an UPDATE
[02:55] <intelikey> bharath the time involved is tshark related    or what ever app it was,  not grep not tee
[02:55] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: which updates ?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin:  adept notifier ?
[02:56] <bharath> adenicio: u mean a diff. alias like in yahoo? sorry, i've not used msn that much with kopete
[02:56] <phyeradmin> so python i assume IS already insstallled when you install Kubuntu its perhaps the UPDATE of it thats jacked up
[02:56] <phyeradmin> yes adept notifier
[02:56] <bharath> intelikey: must be. <slappin my forehead> :)
[02:57] <intelikey> :)
[02:58] <BluesKaj> thought so , phyeradmin , don't use it ...it breaks after 1 or2 tries...dump it and use "sudo apt-get update"
[02:58] <intelikey> it sure is hard to say "i typod that, and the only error was pebcak"   isn't it
[02:58] <phyeradmin> ok
[02:59] <Jacob88> hwo do i make firefox i installed on this account available on the other account
[02:59] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj: ok, its running
[02:59] <sedeki> Jacob88 how did you install firefox?
[02:59] <Jacob88> the apt-get thing
[02:59] <intelikey> Jacob88 a symlink maybe ?
[02:59] <sedeki> Jacob88 it should be installed for all user accounts.
[02:59] <Jacob88> someone gave me the command to get it and it did it automatically
[02:59] <phyeradmin> BluesKaj:...aaand it crashed in a blaze of glory too
[02:59] <BluesKaj> phyeradmin: the updates are drawn from the sources called repositories ... you can add the repositories to your sources list which apt and adept use to update packages from
[02:59] <intelikey> oh you did with apt     then it is avalable
[03:00] <Jacob88> lemme go make sure
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !repositories | phyeradmin
[03:01] <ubotu> phyeradmin: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:02] <phyeradmin> ok, BluesKaj thank you very much but its apparent whatever that is, it has my system jacked up now...so im just gonna put pclinux back on here
[03:02] <phyeradmin> at least that did'nt give me gruff like this
[03:02] <phyeradmin> thanks again and have a good evening
[03:03] <intelikey> what = gruff
[03:04] <intelikey> [ $what = gruff ]  && answer
[03:04] <BluesKaj> greif i think ...no patience
[03:05] <bob_sinclair> i have serious issues with 2.6.20-16-386 kernel on two installations. seems common?
[03:05] <s0nix> hello
[03:05] <namol> hi
[03:05] <BluesKaj> never heard of python breaking a setup , but there's always a first time
[03:05] <intelikey> bob_sinclair then may i sujest you file a bug and don't use that version
[03:05] <s0nix> quelqu'un ....... dite moi comment faire disparaite le temps d'un video dans kaffeine qui est en haut a gauche de l'image ... jen ai marre et je trouve pas lol
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> !fr | s0nix
[03:06] <ubotu> s0nix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj well seeing that kde is more or less py based  it might have
[03:06] <BluesKaj> !fr | s0nix
[03:06] <bob_sinclair> intelikey: i shall, just wondering if other people have it, because it is the same on both my installs which are totally different hardware
[03:06] <bob_sinclair> after applying latest kernel update
[03:06] <BluesKaj> oops slow on the draw tonite :)
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> I can almost translate that, too
[03:07] <s0nix> oups, sorry
[03:07] <intelikey> bob_sinclair i'm using the LTS so i wouldn't know,  but it's not the first update that broke things.
[03:07] <bob_sinclair> ok thanks mate
[03:07] <intelikey> np
[03:08] <voidmage> anyone know how to make a program use two cores so it runs faster?
[03:08] <voidmage> because right now it's only using one it looks like
[03:08] <BluesKaj> intelikey:  it's that damn adept notifier ...it doesn't track updates well enuff and ends up conflicting and breaking packages
[03:09] <bob_sinclair> !beryl
[03:09] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:09] <flaccid> !beryl
[03:09] <intelikey> BluesKaj ah.  yeah i never have liked automatic update anything
[03:10] <voidmage> i only use adept to tell me when updates are available
[03:10] <bharath> intelikey: i did some more testing and there seems to be an issue again
[03:10] <voidmage> the tray icon thing  is handy
[03:10] <voidmage> i still do my package management from the shell
[03:10] <bharath> i have two command windows open:
[03:10] <bharath> one has -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET /access/' | tee out.txt
[03:10] <bharath> two has -> sudo tshark -i eth0 | grep 'HTTP GET /access/'
[03:10] <voidmage> that does what?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> yup, well is till use adept in some cases but only to installa specific app, not update
[03:11] <bharath> the second window always shows up if something matching the grep comes up
[03:11] <bharath> but the frirst window does not
[03:11] <voidmage> on my desktop i have three open: one building things, one that i launch things from, and another i don't use
[03:11] <bharath> it does sometimes, and not sometimes
[03:11] <bharath> that's why i had initially thought that fgrep works instead of grep
[03:11] <voidmage> on my laptop i have three: ssh to desktop, launching things, and a program running
[03:13] <intelikey> bharath ummm wait.   does tshark run and then display output or does it keep running and return as per access ?   cause any pipe is going to want to wait until all the data is avalable to write to the next app...
[03:14] <bharath> tshark keeps running and as and when something comes up, it shows
[03:14] <bharath> ok, i now see that what comes in the second windows comes up in the first one thought after maybe 2 mins
[03:14] <Jacob88> noob question
[03:15] <Jacob88> what butons bring up proccess watcher, like control+alt+delete in windows
[03:15] <intelikey> bharath because it's waiting for the rest of the output.....
[03:15] <bharath> but the only diff. is the addition of the tee command in the first one... so maybe it waits for blocks of stuff to come?
[03:15] <Jacob88> so i can terminate a prog
[03:15] <event_ide> I can't seem to get Beryl working.  Can anyone link me to a tutorial?
[03:15] <intelikey> bharath yes each pipe will slow that down
[03:16] <Jacob88> anyone?
[03:16] <dranas> is it recomended i upgrade my ati drivers when new ones come out?
[03:16] <intelikey> Jacob88 ctrl+alt+esc
[03:16] <intelikey> ?
[03:17] <intelikey> dranas i personally don't recommend upgrading anything that is working correctly...  but that's just me
[03:18] <event_ide> anyone familiar with Beryl?
[03:18] <dranas> if i upgrade and blow up my computer, how do i reset the drivers from konsole?
[03:18] <intelikey> and for the record  a security update that patches an exploit  proves that it wasn't working "correctly"   so you can excuse that.
[03:19] <bharath> the the second level pipe (grep) immediately shows when that match occurs
[03:19] <intelikey> dranas you mean console ?    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:19] <adenicio> !apache
[03:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:19] <bharath> just this tee slows it down that much?
[03:19] <bharath> that's strange
[03:19] <Geekosaur> I agree with intelikey.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it unless you need a new feature or something.  Notice need not want, but that is just me, and I'm just a dumb newf.
[03:20] <dranas> thank you
[03:20] <intelikey> bharath and if you piped that into another pipe it would probably make you think it wasn't working at all
[03:20] <BluesKaj> Geekosaur: agreed ,but not about the newfie part :)
[03:21] <Geekosaur> Thank, BluesKa, I appreciate the vote of confidence.
[03:21] <SonhadorPR> hello all: How can I access my NTFS Windows HDDs and files????
[03:22] <BluesKaj> Geekosaur:  when grows up in a place like Sudbury , one can empathize :)
[03:22] <Geekosaur> SonhadorPR, where are they located?
[03:23] <intelikey> bharath a test on that.    cat /dev/urandom | od | grep -wo '171365' | tee /dev/null            next try:   cat /dev/urandom | od | grep -wo '171365'
[03:23] <Geekosaur> BluesKa, you mean that place with no trees, just like home, where growing rocks is a profession :)
[03:24] <SonhadorPR> Geek: I have 2 HDDs, the normal C drive with the WinXP, and the E Drive with half NTFS for backup and half kubuntu
[03:24] <BluesKaj> yup, Geekosaur
[03:24] <intelikey> bharath the pipe to tee is simply waiting on the  EOF   albeit it will do some writing if you wait...
[03:24] <Geekosaur> Are they SATA or IDE?
[03:25] <SonhadorPR> IDE
[03:25] <SonhadorPR> Geek: the thing is that Ubuntu used to read them automatically, and had a link for them in the Desktop, now that I migrated to kubuntu, they are not there..
[03:25] <intelikey> the C drive and the E drive    heh
[03:26] <Geekosaur> typ[e "mount" in a console and see if you can see them.
[03:26] <SonhadorPR> ok
[03:26] <SonhadorPR> let me see..
[03:26] <lewix> hi people
[03:26] <Geekosaur> Intelikey, we all started somewhere...
[03:27] <Minataku> Heh
[03:27] <Juz_moi> I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[03:27] <Minataku> My external volumes are mounted under /ext/? where ? is C, D or E
[03:27] <hasan> rm: cannot remove directory `found.000//dir0000.chk/.frostwire/Incomplete': File exists
[03:27] <hasan> what does that mean ?
[03:27] <hasan> while removing file file exists where ??
[03:27] <hasan> in trash :)?
[03:28] <SonhadorPR> .Geek...it gave me a list of things...but I don know ehat I looking at
[03:28] <Biovore> that sounds like a windows error..
[03:28] <Geekosaur> C D E are Windows identifiers for drives.  We prefer real addresses in Linux/Unix, etc.
[03:28] <pyrotix> I'm running the X-server configuration tool and it is stuck at an "OK." Am I just supposed to type enter to make it go on (it won't)?
[03:28] <pyrotix> in Konsole
[03:28] <SonhadorPR> Ill give you the list...hold on...
[03:29] <bharath> intelikey: was away.. ok, lemme try all those
[03:29] <SonhadorPR> first line ->   /dev/hdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:29] <mauro_> hello everyone! im trying to set up cpufrequtils, but i need to know what module i have to load
[03:29] <mauro_> how can i find out which module i need?
[03:29] <SonhadorPR> second line -->>  proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:29] <BluesKaj> pyrotix: yes
[03:29] <soulrider> hi intelikey, long time no see
[03:29] <SonhadorPR> third line -->  /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:30] <SonhadorPR> 4th line -->  varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[03:30] <Geekosaur> Tell me what it has thhat are actually drives, they should have a line like /dev/hda1/ is mounted as ...
[03:30] <intelikey> SonhadorPR     cat "/proc/partitions" | curl -i -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=$USER -F paste=Send http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php 2>/dev/null | grep '^Location' | cut -d':' -f2- | tr -d ' '
[03:30] <bharath> intelikey: yep, the one without the tee works immediately
[03:30] <bharath> but tee takes its own sweet time :)
[03:30] <intelikey> SonhadorPR drop that in a konsole and show me what it says back
[03:31] <BluesKaj> think it's time for a Tee break :)
[03:31] <SonhadorPR> 5th line-->  varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[03:31] <SonhadorPR> intel: all those lines, al together, ??
[03:32] <intelikey> bharath sorry i was slow about seeing what was happening to ya
[03:32] <intelikey> SonhadorPR yes one line
[03:32] <SonhadorPR> ok
[03:32] <SonhadorPR> nothing happened
[03:32] <neusonce>  hey guys whats the name of the package i need to get to enbale "tor" package, its the package im led to believe enables  my to seach the web anonymously ?
[03:33] <intelikey> SonhadorPR you copied and pasted that as one single command ???    and it did nothing ?
[03:35] <intelikey> !info tor
[03:35] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1740 kB
[03:35] <SonhadorPR> intel: yes...nothing happened
[03:36] <killown> I dont to get tcl-dev in the apt-get I need add any repository ?
[03:36] <hasan> how can i start up kmail on startup ?
[03:36] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok pastebin the output of:   cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab
[03:36] <intelikey> !paste | SonhadorPR
[03:36] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:37] <SonhadorPR> ok...let me do that..hold on...
[03:37] <intelikey> !find tcl-dev
[03:37] <ubotu> Found: libpgtcl-dev, plplot-tcl-dev
[03:38] <intelikey> hasan that's all there is by that name ^
[03:38] <SonhadorPR> here it is --> 31863/
[03:38] <Geekosaur> Sorry Folks it's past my bedtime - Us senior citizens have our limits.  Enjoy!!
[03:38] <intelikey> SonhadorPR full url is nice...
[03:38] <hasan> intelikey???
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> sorry....the one you gave me.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31863/
[03:39] <intelikey> hasan see ubotu
[03:39] <intelikey> SonhadorPR yes looking.  give me a sec
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> take your time...
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> her for the long haul, until I can access my Windows files...
[03:39] <SonhadorPR> thanx
[03:40] <bharath> intelikey: no problem :)
[03:40] <hasan> whereis ubotu?
[03:40] <hasan> what's that ? im a newbie
[03:41] <[ifr0g] > hasan, ITs a BOT !
[03:41] <[Apollo] > How can you type in an arbitrary ASCII character? Like when you hit ALT and enter a number on the numpad in Windows?
[03:41] <intelikey> SonhadorPR that's not the output of the command i gave.    <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok pastebin the output of:   cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab
[03:42] <root___> hello?
[03:42] <soulrider> [Apollo] : i dont have any idea either :P
[03:42] <root___> cool, this works
[03:42] <soulrider> hi root___
[03:42] <root___> for some random reason, my keyboard quit working in KDE
[03:42] <[Apollo] > :P
[03:42] <soulrider> root___: i suggets you change your name :P type /nick <new name>
[03:42] <soulrider> including the  /
[03:42] <SonhadorPR> I copied the whole thing like you said...I asked if it was all the lines..
[03:42] <SonhadorPR> ok..Il do it again...
[03:42] <intelikey> SonhadorPR you still aren't reading what i'm writing
[03:43] <[Apollo] > can you consider this a security threat? letting everyone in an IRC room know that you logged in as root--given that this is prolly the reason for the nick? :P
[03:43] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions /etc/fstab   <<<<< that command SonhadorPR
[03:43] <SonhadorPR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31864/
[03:43] <[Apollo] > hi intelikey
[03:43] <SonhadorPR> I just did it...
[03:43] <intelikey> [Apollo]
[03:44] <[Apollo] > ya?
[03:44] <pacman> maybe, but all you'll get if you hack my system is a bunch of porn...haha
[03:44] <[Apollo] > lol
[03:44] <pacman> anyhow, any idea how to get my keyboard to work on KDE again?  I looked and could find an auto-detect feature
[03:44] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok much better,  now give me just a minute and i'll tell you how to set that up
[03:45] <SonhadorPR> ok Intel: thanx
[03:45] <pacman> I even tried another keyboard, and it still wouldn't work
[03:46] <bharath> intelikey: is there a way to force tee to process stuff in realtime instead of waiting for the EOF>?
[03:46] <[Apollo] > pacman: I so much like to help you, but I'm like a total newbie myself. I consider myself lucky if I figure something out.
[03:46] <intelikey> bharath you could just dump the grep to a file and parse as needed
[03:46] <[Apollo] > I'd*
[03:47] <pacman> *nods*
[03:47] <bharath> yep, i tried that, but looks like even the dump doesn't dump in real time... maybe i'm wrong, i'll check it out again
[03:47] <[Apollo] > how come it doesn't work? does it not respond anymore? or does it not work like it should?
[03:48] <pacman> it doesn't respond at all
[03:48] <pacman> it was working fine, then all of a sudden, it quit working
[03:48] <thelostbyte_> pacman, what quite working?
[03:49] <pacman> my keyboard, lostbyte
[03:49] <pacman> my keyboard, ifroog
[03:49] <pacman> heh
[03:50] <[ifroog] > pacman, laptop ?
[03:50] <pacman> no, desktop
[03:50] <pacman> I tried another keyboard, and restarted, and tried everything I could think of.
[03:50] <[ifroog] > pacman, so the other keyboard also did not work ?
[03:50] <hitmanWilly> pacman: usb or ps2?
[03:50] <pacman> ps2
[03:50] <pacman> no, it didn't work
[03:51] <bharath> intelikey: yep, its the same problem with just redirecting to an output file too
[03:51] <bharath> it doesn't write to the file immediately
[03:51] <bharath> just like with the tee
[03:51] <hitmanWilly> pacman: it may be an issue with the controller, you may want to try a usb one
[03:51] <SonhadorPR> so, pacman, how are you writting at the moment??
[03:52] <[ifroog] > pacman, feisty?
[03:52] <pacman> I logged into console from the login screen, and downloaded bitchx
[03:52] <pacman> yeah, ifroog
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> pacman: oh, this is just in X?
[03:52] <pacman> yeah
[03:52] <SonhadorPR> oic
[03:53] <SonhadorPR> its on the X, not the console...interesting
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> pacman: it may be an issue with kubuntu's keyboard layout then
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> pacman: s/kubuntu/kde
[03:53] <intelikey> SonhadorPR make your fstab look like that
[03:53] <pacman> I'd have to leave here to try any suggestions
[03:53] <SonhadorPR> whats the fstab?
[03:53] <[ifroog] > pacman, press shift for 5 secs does a window pop up ?
[03:53] <intelikey> SonhadorPR then issue the command     sudo mount -a
[03:54] <pacman> no, ifroog
[03:54] <intelikey> SonhadorPR /etc/fstab   file that tells the system how to mount the fs's
[03:54] <intelikey> fstab = file system table
[03:54] <SonhadorPR> INTEL: OK..SO HOW DO i EDIT IT?
[03:54] <SonhadorPR> sorry for the locks
[03:55] <intelikey> bharath i may have an option for you,     dd
[03:55] <SonhadorPR> <-- newbie here, you gotta go step-by-step
[03:55] <intelikey> SonhadorPR kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[03:55] <SonhadorPR> ok..let me do that...
[03:55] <intelikey> SonhadorPR or sudo nano /etc/fstab     or heck just  sudo cp SonhadorPR /etc/fstab
[03:56] <bharath> intelikey: lookin at the man for it
[03:56] <SonhadorPR> ok..it opened...Il edit it now...
[03:56] <pacman> brb
[03:57] <intelikey> bharath i mention it because one of the logging scripts for ubuntu used something like   dd if=/proc/blah of=/var/log/something bs=1
[03:57] <pacman_> hmm
[03:58] <intelikey> pacman_ killed client without exiting... ?
[03:58] <pacman_> *shrugs*
[03:58] <BluesKaj> what's the procedure to reassign the Caps Lock to Shift or Ctrl or something else that doesn't annoy
[03:58] <bharath> intelikey that's just way over my head :) but i'll give it a try... in the meantime, i'll just dump tsharks output and then do the grep separately
[03:58] <SonhadorPR> intel: it gave me a whole bunch of errors...let me do the pastebin again
[03:59] <SonhadorPR> Intel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31868/
[03:59] <intelikey> SonhadorPR i don't need it.   sudo mkdir -p /media/hda1
[03:59] <pacman_> I'm lost
[03:59] <intelikey> SonhadorPR i don't need it.   sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb1
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: still no luck?
[04:00] <pacman_> no
[04:00] <intelikey> SonhadorPR note that's a and b   ^>   sudo mkdir -p /media/hdb1
[04:00] <SonhadorPR> ok...did them both
[04:00] <intelikey> SonhadorPR and sudo mount -a
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: did you try mouseing through the options in kcontrol/system settings?
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[04:01] <aesebu55> hi, has anyone got chromium bsu to run succesfully of kubuntu?
[04:01] <pacman_> yeah, but I couldn't find anything for 'auto-detect keyboard' or something similar
[04:01] <intelikey> SonhadorPR didn't you install ntfs-3g ?
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> yes
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> earlier..
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: try just setting it to a standard 101
[04:01] <intelikey> i thought so
[04:01] <SonhadorPR> that also gave me some errors
[04:02] <intelikey> oh
[04:02] <intelikey> errors installing it ?
[04:02] <pacman_> where do I set it?  I didn't see anything in KDE about setting up a keyboard
[04:02] <SonhadorPR> it told me something about the HPlip..
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: hold on, lemme find it
[04:02] <SonhadorPR> that the file I installed to work with my HP all in one PSC
[04:03] <bharath> intelikey: i found a dirty shortcut :)
[04:03] <intelikey> SonhadorPR sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[04:03] <intelikey> bharath k what is it ?
[04:03] <bharath> i just have to kill the tshark process when I'm done  :)
[04:03] <bharath> and the tee dumps the rest of the stuf immediately
[04:03] <intelikey> yeah we knew that
[04:03] <[ifroog] > pacman, could you go into system settings > accessibility  > modifier keys > and disable sticky keys..
[04:04] <intelikey> bharath tshark may have a terminate switch   -l or something
[04:04] <pacman_> okay, let me try that...back in a few
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> pacman_: under regional & language -> Keyboard Layout in system settings
[04:05] <SonhadorPR> intel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31869/
[04:05] <pacman_> okay
[04:05] <bharath> intel i'll look into that
[04:05] <[ifroog] > pacman, and also check if slow keys are not checked under keyboard filters.
[04:06] <intelikey> bharath one could use a while loop and sample with tshark that way too     (speeking of dirty hacks)  while true ;do tshark command here with pipes  & sleep 1 ;killall tshark ;done
[04:06] <dope> i have a makefile with this in it "ifeq ($(UNAME),Linux)" what does that do?
[04:06] <holycow> konversation is MUUUUUUUUUUCH nicer than xchat
[04:07] <holycow> how come kde apps are always so much more featurefull than anything i've ever seen on gnome?
[04:07] <holycow> as much as i like gnome i find this very odd
[04:07] <dope> and this: UNAME := $(shell uname)
[04:07] <bharath> intelikey, ok. but i'm also trying to understand the root cause here. is it because of grep or tshark?
[04:07] <bharath> because if i use just grep without the tee, i get the output in realtime
[04:08] <intelikey> bharath no. it's because of the way the kernel handles pipes
[04:08] <bharath> ohh, ok
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> holycow: i don't think konversation has any features xchat doesn't, it all goes back to the basic differences between gnome and kde.  gnome is simplicity through obfuscation.  the customization options are there, but hidden.  in kde, it's all laid out in plain sight :)
[04:08] <bharath> inteli is there any documentation regarding this somewhere?
[04:08] <intelikey> when you have a pipe writting to disk you normally want to wait for the EOF
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention kde apps generally go for a certain "feel" common to most kde apps
[04:08] <bharath> oh ok
[04:08] <holycow> Daisuke_Ido: you may be right
[04:09] <bharath> so only when i try to write to disk this happens, i get it
[04:09] <holycow> i haveto say i think linus was right
[04:09] <intelikey> bharath right
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> about what?
[04:09] <holycow> gnome
[04:09] <bharath> make much sense now
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> refresh my memory?
[04:09] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok still with me ?
[04:09] <holycow> he basically said the same thing about gnomes approach that you mentioned
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[04:10] <SonhadorPR> yes sir...still waiting for my next set of instructions!!
[04:10] <SonhadorPR> hehehe
[04:10] <intelikey> SonhadorPR does     mount    say the partitions are mounted or not ??
[04:10] <SonhadorPR> I just type mount?
[04:10] <bharath> intel, okay but the tee also writes to the console right? why should that be slow too?
[04:10] <intelikey> SonhadorPR yes
[04:10] <[ifroog] > dope, "ifeq ($(UNAME),Linux)" compares if the output of uname = linux
[04:11] <dope> hmm
[04:11] <[ifroog] > which is true.
[04:11] <dope> right below it it says "release:"
[04:11] <dope> and then some commands
[04:11] <SonhadorPR> intel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31870/
[04:11] <intelikey> SonhadorPR we can also fix that invoke-rc.d problem with a hack right quick if you want...
[04:11] <[ifroog] > yes, it runs that if the above it true.
[04:11] <dope> well it's outputting it to the console
[04:12] <dope> and i get no executable
[04:12] <SonhadorPR> sure....
[04:13] <intelikey> SonhadorPR ok so it didn't mount...   hmm let me check with someone that uses ntfs-3g on that.   in the mean time...
[04:13] <dope> any ideas
[04:14] <SonhadorPR> ok
[04:14] <[ifroog] > dope, sorry, i have not played with makefiles though.
[04:14] <intelikey> SonhadorPR which invoke-rc.d
[04:14] <intelikey> SonhadorPR that's a konsole command
[04:14] <[Apollo] > dope: do you need help with makefiles?
[04:15] <dope> yea, i'm just trying to use the one that was provided with this sample code to build the project and i'm gettin nowhere
[04:15] <SonhadorPR> I just type that?  invoke-rc.d  ??
[04:16] <[Apollo] > what's not working? and can you can paste it to pastebin or something like that?
[04:16] <intelikey> SonhadorPR            which invoke-rc.d
[04:17] <SonhadorPR>  I have to type which also with it??
[04:17] <dope> yea give me a second
[04:18] <intelikey> SonhadorPR: yes     which invoke-rc.d
[04:18] <SonhadorPR> ok.
[04:18] <jdcnyc> testing1,2...3
[04:18] <SonhadorPR> intel:  /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: its working ;)
[04:18] <intelikey> SonhadorPR one more time lets try that mount command too.      sudo mount -a
[04:18] <jdcnyc> thanks!
[04:18] <intelikey> SonhadorPR don't forget the sudo.
[04:19] <dope> [Apollo] : http://pastebin.com/m5b48e64d
[04:19] <lewix> hi
[04:20] <lewix> how do I know what kernel I'm using?
[04:20] <lewix> what's the command
[04:20] <SonhadorPR> still the same...logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount /dev/hda1/': Operation not supported
[04:20] <[ifroog] > lewix, uname -r
[04:20] <lewix> thanks
[04:20] <[ifroog] > ;)
[04:21] <[Apollo] > dope: and what is not working? I mean, it seems to work just fine. It's normal that the make process is printing out the commands it is executing. Have you tried running the executable?
[04:22] <dope> it greates no file
[04:22] <dope> well it's not in the same directory
[04:22] <intelikey> SonhadorPR this that "hack" to get your hplip working, it's all one line without  ()  i'm just using them to show where to start and stop  ( sudo mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d /root/ ;sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;sudo mv /root/invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/ )
[04:23] <SonhadorPR> ok
[04:23] <[ifroog] > looks like it goes to /dist/release/accsample
[04:23] <[Apollo] > dope: yes, it's in "../../dist/release/accsample"...  so go up 2 directorys, then go to dist, then release and there it should be
[04:24] <[Apollo] > ifroog was faster
[04:24] <[Apollo] > :D
[04:24] <dope> O thanks
[04:24] <jdcnyc> I just installed a new Kubuntu desktop and didn't partition the single hard drive manually. Installed Gparted, but it won't give me the option to resize the configuration. I would reinstall, if I can't think of another option. Any suggestions?
[04:24] <[ifroog] > [Apollo] , but you said it right :D
[04:24] <[Apollo] > heh
[04:25] <SonhadorPR> intel:  it looks like a clean set up..... heres line one -->  Setting up hplip (1.7.3-0ubuntu1) ...
[04:25] <SonhadorPR> line 2 ---> Creating/updating hplip user account...
[04:25] <SonhadorPR> and thats it
[04:25] <Juz_moi> I'm reading something that mentions /etc/rc.conf  I can't find it, does kubuntu use something different?
[04:25] <dope> [Apollo] : what's this mean "accsample: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[04:25] <intelikey> SonhadorPR k
[04:26] <[Apollo] > dope: what did you enter as a command to execute it?
[04:26] <dope> i typed: sh accsample
[04:26] <Minataku> dope: It means that there's an open parenthesis in line 1 that doesn't belong there
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you want to make room on your drive?
[04:26] <SonhadorPR> intel: now what?
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: from the partition that you are running right now?
[04:26] <jdcnyc>  <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you want to make room on your drive? YES!
[04:26] <hii> hii! my friend did something with his wireless network and now he wants to know how to reset the knetworkmanager
[04:27] <aesebu55> when i try to install the chromuim package it gives the error it needs the data package but when I try to install the dat apackage it complains that it needs the package I just tried to install. What can I do?
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: so you have only one (or two counting swap) partitions on your disk?
[04:27] <dope> [Apollo] : ami supposed to send it parameters?
[04:27] <intelikey> SonhadorPR let me change the fstab and resend it
[04:27] <jdcnyc> 1 swap parition
[04:27] <SonhadorPR> ok
[04:28] <[ifroog] > hii,  what do you mean by reset ?
[04:28] <[Apollo] > hmm... maybe? just go to the directory and enter ./accsample
[04:28] <[Apollo] > dope
[04:28] <dope> ah ok so i don't type sh then
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: you need to run the liveCD and use qtparted off of that.  you can't resize a partition thats in use
[04:28] <hii> hii ifroog!  he was fooling around with the manual connections and now the wireless connection isnt showing up on the list
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> dope: only if its not set +x
[04:29] <dope> it's working now
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> dope: then you need the sh
[04:29] <dope> :) thx all
[04:29] <[Apollo] > heh np
[04:29] <dope> i try to remember that hitmanWilly
[04:29] <intelikey> SonhadorPR you remember how to edit that ?
[04:29] <intelikey> SonhadorPR  kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[04:29] <[ifroog] > Any one on edgy, could you check if network-manager is installed ??
[04:29] <jdcnyc>  jdcnyc: you need to run the liveCD and use qtparted  I expected as much and have Gpart LiveCd on hand Thanks!
[04:30] <[ifroog] > dope, :)
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> got it dude....fstabs been re-edited...now what?
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : it should be, if not you can apt it
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> :)
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> jdcnyc: no problem
[04:30] <intelikey> SonhadorPR   sudo mount -a
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> same error....unclean shutdown...
[04:30] <SonhadorPR> etc..
[04:31] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, i dont really get its purpose !
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : it's a nice little gui for those who are scared of a cli/editing config files :)
[04:32] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, ah, thats it !
[04:32] <intelikey> SonhadorPR hmmm ok.   seeing that i don't know that much about ntfs-3g   because i don't do windows,   i'm going to assume that it's an actual fs issue   and sujest you reboot to windows safe mode and chkdisk the partitions
[04:32] <[ifroog] > does it any way, help to bring up interfaces automatically.. on device presence ?
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : and since it seems to bypass the standard way of networking, it can sometimes cause problems :(
[04:33] <intelikey> SonhadorPR or scandisk or what ever windows uses these days
[04:33] <SonhadorPR> ok...
[04:33] <SonhadorPR> I can do that...
[04:33] <intelikey> SonhadorPR let me know how it turns out
[04:33] <lewix> what's the difference between z2 and gzb
[04:33] <SonhadorPR> but stilllits funny that the Ubuntu was able to open the NTFS HDDs and Kubuntu wont do it...
[04:33] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, huh, good.. caused i removed it. and tough that would have been the reason for my wifi acting weird.
[04:33] <lewix> what's the difference between bz2 and gzb*
[04:33] <[ifroog] > but its not.
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : not that im aware of, but I do mine the old fashioned way
[04:34] <SonhadorPR> ok..Ill be back in an hour or so...
[04:34] <SonhadorPR> thanx for all your help dude!!!
[04:34] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, cool ;)ok
[04:34] <dope> i want to give a user the ability to use a command without typing sudo in front of it. how do i do that?
[04:34] <intelikey> SonhadorPR but because ubuntu was opening it and possably not cleanly umounting it....
[04:34] <lewix> what's the difference between *.bz2 and *.gzb ?
[04:34] <jhutchins> lewix: Let's try one more:  .gz and .bz2 maybe?
[04:34] <SonhadorPR> could be.....
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : as far as wifi, though, im pretty much at a loss, mine worked out of the box and i haven't had to play with it any
[04:34] <intelikey> SonhadorPR that may be why you now have that issue
[04:35] <lewix> jhutchins, yes sir
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> dope: you really can't.... only root can do that, and root is disabled
[04:35] <jhutchins> lewix: Rather obviously, they're different ways of compressing a file.
[04:35] <lewix> ok
[04:35] <intelikey> SonhadorPR don't clap.  just tell me if that fixes it   :)
[04:35] <jhutchins> lewix: gz is gzip, which is a bit faster, bz is significantly slower and slightly smaller.
[04:35] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, nice..
[04:35] <dope> what if i need to run a command in a shell script that requires sudo?
[04:36] <lewix> jhutchins, thanks
[04:36] <SonhadorPR> yes...I know exactly what you are saying..a coulpe of days ago...the system(ht eubuntu system) told me that..at the boot...before loading ubuntu, it did a system check, and it told me something about the mounts..
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : plus i hardly ever use it anyway, have a hardline at the house
[04:36] <jhutchins> lewix: zip, bzip, gzip all slight variations.
[04:36] <jhutchins> lewix: rar, arc, ohh, about a dozen others.
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> dope: run the whole script as sudo
[04:36] <intelikey> jhutchins you use ntfs-3g ?
[04:36] <intelikey> or hitmanWilly ?
[04:36] <lewix> lol
[04:36] <dope> i don't think i can
[04:36] <jhutchins> gzip offers pretty much the best compromise between speed and size.
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> dope: why not?
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: not for a LONG time
[04:37] <SonhadorPR> ok...Im on my way to Windows land,....wish me luck....
[04:37] <dope> cause something else is calling it
[04:37] <intelikey> jhutchins depends on what you are compressing
[04:37] <[ifroog] > hitmanWilly, i have a dougle working on ndiswrapper.
[04:37] <dope> like an automated process
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> dope: calling what?
[04:37] <dope> the shell script that needs sudo
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> [ifroog] : intel chipset here :)
[04:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: I never had problems with the original ntfs drivers, and nowadays I don't have NTFS partitions except on my NT server, which solves the problem with samba.
[04:37] <jhutchins> intelikey: Actually, it doesn't.
[04:38] <[ifroog] > intel wireless does rock on linux.
[04:38] <jhutchins> intelikey: Some files compress farther with other formats, but not faster.
[04:38] <[ifroog] > I thinki will get that.
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> dope, I don't get you. If you run the whole script as sudo, anything the script calls with automatically be run with full priveledges
[04:38] <dope> ok i'll see what happens
[04:38] <intelikey> jhutchins well i have some 4+m plain text files that bzip compresses much better at very little time cost
[04:38] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: I believe you'll find that's not the case.
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: really?
[04:38] <jhutchins> intelikey: Right.  Very little - but some.
[04:39] <intelikey> jhutchins but much smaller
[04:39] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: If you run a script with sudo, the shell is run as root, but programs within may not be.
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: I've done it before though.....
[04:39] <intelikey> like several houndred k
[04:39] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Yes, and I've done it and had it fail.
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: hmmm let me test that out.
[04:40] <[ifroog] > dope, there is a way.. just a sec
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: I just hat it restart cupsys from within a sudoed script...
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> *had
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: i think it has to do with how sudo is configured
[04:41] <dope> I GOT IT!
[04:41] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: I'll bookmark that I need to show you one of the scripts that failed.  Since it failed, I didn't keep it around, but I think I can recreate it.
[04:41] <dope> HOW POINTLESS!
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> hmm, ok, I'd be interested.
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> dope: :)
[04:42] <jhutchins> sure.  There is a difference between sudo and su - though.
[04:42] <dope> i my server to restart itself from an IM
[04:43] <jhutchins> G' nght folks, I should be around some manaa.
[04:43] <Juz_moi> what does the $2 mean in this script line:    sudo /sbin/ifconfig $2 up
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins: was it trying to > directly to a file?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> c ya
[04:43] <intelikey> jhutchins gooday
[04:43] <[ifroog] > dope, got what?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> Juz_moi: I THINK it means the second variable that should be defined above that.
[04:43] <dope> i got my server to restart itself from an IM
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> dope: sweet
[04:44] <[ifroog] > woo..
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> dope: and extremely dangerous imho :P
[04:44] <intelikey> Juz_moi heh  $2 is the second command line pram
[04:44] <[ifroog] > how ?
[04:44] <dope> i used the aim sdk for linux
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: nice to know :)
[04:44] <Juz_moi> in the ifconfig ?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> im's aren't exactly secure...
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> whats your server's i'm address :)
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> especially over the aim protocol
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> *IM
[04:45] <intelikey> Juz_moi  a script with this line in it   "echo $2"    then call the script like this    myscript blah good blah     will answer back  'good'
[04:45] <Juz_moi> it's from http://mychael.gotdns.com/blog/2007/05/31/virtualbox-bridging/
[04:45] <intelikey> Juz_moi shell scripting is what i do
[04:46] <Juz_moi> god bless u I am clueless about it
[04:46] <intelikey> i just gave you a clue
[04:46] <intelikey> :)
[04:46] <[ifroog] > :D
[04:46] <Juz_moi> go to that page and tell me in relationship to what he's saying there
[04:46] <smax> why does cups recognize my hp printer as a cannon?
[04:47] <hii> does anyone know how to install knetwork from the ubuntu cd? please? =]
[04:47] <Juz_moi> it's from http://mychael.gotdns.com/blog/2007/05/31/virtualbox-bridging/
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> have to go all bye
[04:47] <smax> and an epson?
[04:47] <intelikey> echo 'echo $2 $1 $3' > myscript ;sh myscript testing im this
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:47] <intelikey> :)
[04:48] <dope> WEW! i got my server to restart itself via text msg!
[04:48] <dope> jesus I'm a nerd
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: beginnings of a yoda translation script :)
[04:48] <ardchoille> lol
[04:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly :)
[04:49] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: yoda2text ?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> why not?
[04:49] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: oops, that should be yoda2text.sh
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> takes yoda speak from stdin and outputs to stdout
[04:49] <[ifroog] > hii,  dvd ?
[04:50] <hii> ifroog: no, cd
[04:50] <[ifroog] > huh, its its on the cd i think it should be installed already..
[04:50] <hii> ifroog: hes trying to reinstall it
[04:51] <hii> ifroog: he messed it up so now he has to reinstall it or something
[04:51] <intelikey> hitmanWilly heh    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38559
[04:52] <intelikey> hii the "kde" stuff is not on the "ubuntu" cd
[04:52] <ardchoille> intelikey: What does that do?
[04:52] <[ifroog] > oh, i missed that :P
[04:52] <intelikey> ardchoille a very crude encription
[04:53] <hii> intelikey: how do people normally get network support then?
[04:53] <smax> linux is so unreliable
[04:53] <Dr_willis> smax,  really? i find windows to be very very unreliable.
[04:53] <ardchoille> intelikey: Ah
[04:53] <[ifroog] > hii, pls ask gnome related questions at #ubuntu
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, that's a little beyond me, but i'll play around with it some :)
[04:53] <intelikey> hii the "ubuntu" cd had the gnome applications.
[04:54] <[ifroog] > they might have gnome apps that do that.
[04:54] <intelikey> hii the kubuntu cd has the kde stuff and the kdenetwork manager
[04:55] <smax> Dr_willis: at least windows recognizes a simple printer sheesh
[04:55] <hii> so i have the cd, so how do i install that? =]
[04:56] <intelikey> hii i know it's a little confusing seeing that they are the same distro just different DE's  but the install cd is intneded to simply get you started,    and the rest is expected to be "network" everything       i don't agree with the concept but hay     ;/
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, im dumb, i got it figured out now :)
[04:56] <Dr_willis> smax,  yea.. whatever...
[04:57] <[ifroog] > lol
[04:57] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it's inteneded more as a "joke" than anything else,  but if you make two symlinks to the script   ln -s encript myscript ;ln -s decript myscript     then it should actually work.
[04:57] <pacman> *sighs*
[04:58] <smax> Dr_willis: uhh localhost:<cups port>/administration sees my hp printer as both a cannon and a epson
[04:58] <intelikey> ./encript some text here
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: for ROT13 level encryption, anyway :P
[04:58] <intelikey> ./decript that output
[04:58] <smax> so fuck it.
[04:58] <smax> im rebooting back to vista
[04:58] <intelikey> hitmanWilly right
[04:59] <Dr_willis> smax,  thats not related to your problem. I recall seeing that befor even with NO printers installed.. Not sure what the deal is. It might be somthing to do with the PDF printing feature
[04:59] <intelikey> too late
[04:59] <Dr_willis> big loss.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <pacman> <[04:59] <[ifroog] > SAD !
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Im still not sure WHY those 2 printers show up on every box i got either. :)
[04:59] <intelikey> heh
[05:00] <hii> k well thank you very much for trying to help me!! <3
[05:00] <Dr_willis> i dont see them in the gnome-cups-manager, but i DO recall seeing them somewhere else.
[05:00] <intelikey> my printer worked just fine until the first update   hasn't worked sense
[05:00] <[ifroog] > well he will be back when he finds out his new web cam doesnot have vistacompatible drivers :P
[05:00] <intelikey> hii don't run off mad.    what exactly do you need ?
[05:00] <hii> im not mad! and im not sure.  lol
[05:01] <intelikey> hii is it wireless wired dialup ???
[05:01] <wellington> hello!
[05:01] <hii> wireless
[05:01] <[ifroog] > hii, what cd do youhave in your hand ?
[05:01] <wellington> kubuntu 7
[05:01] <[ifroog] > lol
[05:01] <intelikey> i was afraid you would say that
[05:01] <hii> kubunto 7.02 whatever from the website
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Under Printer Ports - in the GNome-cups-manager - it says Parallel port #1 Epson, Parrel Port #1 Canon, I dont even Have a printer on this box. :) what gives?
[05:02] <hii> awe!! dont hide! seriously im not mad!
[05:02] <[ifroog] > hii, slip the cd in..
[05:02] <intelikey> !wifi | hii
[05:02] <ubotu> hii: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:02] <[ifroog] > hii, and do ---> sudo apt-cdrom add
[05:02] <intelikey> hii i have nothing wireless here so i haven't tried to learn it.
[05:02] <wellington> i'm using dlink 502g
[05:03] <intelikey> hii yes the   sudo apt-cdrom add   command will let you use any *ubuntu cd's you might have
[05:04] <hii> thank you!! <3
[05:04] <intelikey> hii but i kinda doubt that adding the cd to the repos will help you there....    hope i'm wrong...
[05:04] <hii> weee!
[05:04] <[ifroog] > well it will install all the kde libs beforeitinstalls the manager..
[05:05] <[ifroog] > and on a gnome it will be slow.
[05:05] <[ifroog] > pls, beware.
[05:05] <intelikey> [ifroog]  yeah   but if s/he installed kubuntu that's already installed,  if not then the gnome eq is...
[05:06] <hii> is something supposed to happen now.. ? /cry
[05:06] <intelikey> !wifi | hii
[05:06] <ubotu> hii: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:06] <intelikey>                      ^
[05:06] <hii> k thank you <3
[05:07] <[ifroog] > intelikey, it already comes with feisty what ever it is..
[05:07] <intelikey> we played that game already...  soooo
[05:07] <[ifroog] > and their wonderful network-manager

[05:08] <dope> i need a program that'll pour me a perfect black and tan
[05:09] <intelikey> Eh gads this cat is having a "fling" with python ....   -:- Pyromancer [i=pyromanc@gateway/tor/x-1c2f0f95a40da1b0]  has joined #kubuntu
[05:09] <intelikey> :)
[05:09] <intelikey> dope hound ?
[05:09] <dope> intelikey: hound?
[05:09] <intelikey> black and tan
[05:09] <intelikey> :)
[05:10] <dope> :?
[05:10] <intelikey> nothing
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Pink and Puce
[05:10] <dope> they mix way too much when i do it
[05:10] <Dr_willis> freeze both halfs solid.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> then stack them up
[05:10] <intelikey> black and tan    is a breed of dog
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Freeze the dogs :) stack them up
[05:10] <intelikey> thus the pun
[05:11] <Dr_willis> 'you might be a redneck if.....'
[05:11] <intelikey> :)
[05:11] <hasan> how guys
[05:11] <intelikey> how hasan
[05:11] <hasan> how can i add extra repos so that i wouldnt dl files again ?
[05:12] <hii> =]
[05:12] <hasan> whenever i format my pc i restart to dl all the things
[05:12] <hasan> hi
[05:12] <hasan> i just wanted to say hi sorry i havent slept all the night
[05:12] <hii> well hii back!
[05:12] <hasan> sorry about that i have thought about saying  hi and i ve written how :)
[05:13] <hasan> ok now to my question
[05:13] <Dr_willis> hasan,  if you have more then 1 ubuntu box, you can set up one as the apt file 'caching' machine.
[05:13] <intelikey> hasan well i'm on dailup so dling *g is out of the Q   i make a copy of everything that enters /var/cache/apt/archives/   then you only dl that file one time.
[05:14] <hasan> so what do u add /etc/sources.list ?
[05:14] <hasan> where what and how ?
[05:14] <[ifroog] > hansen, you want to add more repos ?? why
[05:14] <intelikey> i add nothing special to /etc/sources.list   just mount another disk on  /var/cache/apt/archives/  thus everything there is safe from reload
[05:15] <hansen> no i dont :)
[05:15] <[ifroog] > yeah, i do the same thing..
[05:15] <intelikey> hansen lol
[05:15] <Dr_willis> I just redownload everything. :)
[05:15] <intelikey> isn't irc a blast !
[05:15] <hii> this is kind of fun i think!
[05:16] <intelikey> Dr_willis but you my friend aren't on dialup.
[05:16] <hii> i have no idea what everyone is talking about =]
[05:16] <[ifroog] > hii,  stick around :)
[05:16] <hii> k!
[05:16] <intelikey> actually don't you'll end up like the rest of us       run while you still can
[05:17] <hii> haha ,3
[05:17] <[ifroog] > lol
[05:17] <hii> <3
[05:17] <[ifroog] > hii, what is that emotion ?
[05:17] <hii> its a heart
[05:18] <hii> <3
[05:18] <[ifroog] > ah, ok ..
[05:18] <hii> =]  yea
[05:18] <hii> so this is fun! are you guys in here often?
[05:18] <intelikey> we're offtopic often...
[05:18] <intelikey> :)
[05:19] <[ifroog] > I am back after a really long break :) and i will be a regular here.. here after..
[05:19] <intelikey> here here
[05:20] <hii> ill hang out here too then
[05:20] <hii> =]
[05:20] <intelikey> that that is is that that is not is not
[05:20] <intelikey> ya know
[05:20] <hii> =[   what?
[05:21] <[ifroog] > i i dont dont know know
[05:21] <hii> lol you guys are cute!! <3 im hungry again. =/
[05:21] <intelikey> i C++
[05:23] <hii> no one is saying anything anymore...
[05:24] <redshadowhero> ?
[05:24] <redshadowhero> I wouldn't worry too much.
[05:24] <hii> hii redshadowhero!!
[05:24] <arun> hey kids
[05:24] <intelikey> [ifroog]  maybe i needed to punctuate that for you...   that that is; is that that is not, is not.    if you think about it it's not just a stuttering nonsensical gubberish.
[05:24] <redshadowhero> This is the part when the hero gets chased by the killer
[05:24] <[ifroog] > yes, the silence says that all the kubuntu users are happy !! :)
[05:24] <intelikey> gibberish either
[05:26] <intelikey> [ifroog]  or unable to boot or unable to access the network....
[05:26] <[ifroog] > intelikey, point ! ;D
[05:26] <redshadowhero> hii: hi!
[05:27] <hii> =]
[05:27] <intelikey> is that hi! all this time i thought that was  h2
[05:27] <arun> heh
[05:27] <hii> lol
[05:27] <redshadowhero> huh?
[05:27] <intelikey> ok i'll quit.
[05:27] <hii> yea! maybe i should change my nickname now!
[05:27] <hii> how do i do that?
[05:28] <intelikey> /nick blah
[05:28] <arun> anyone use evolution here?
[05:28] <[ifroog] > intelikey, kubuntu 20.7 "flying pigs" should have irc through high frequency radio wave support.
[05:28] <intelikey> arun i have used it.   how hard is your Q ?
[05:28] <sadrine> weee! thank you!
[05:28] <redshadowhero> sadrine: you sure are... active...
[05:28] <intelikey> i kinda liked h2...
[05:28] <stoned> hello
[05:28] <redshadowhero> sadrine: that the most explanation points I've seen in a while
[05:29] <sadrine> lol you guys are so fun!!
[05:29] <sadrine> i love it
[05:29] <arun> intelikey: what do you mean
[05:29] <redshadowhero> I'm glad that someone loves my inner computer geek...
[05:29] <intelikey> [ifroog]  thought they decided on    palpatating piglets
[05:29] <hii> k i went back!
[05:30] <hii> brb guys
[05:30] <hii> and girls
[05:30] <ChuckFu> how do I get unbutu to see a USB Device
[05:30] <intelikey> arun i mean if you have a Q about evo, lets hear it.
[05:30] <[ifroog] > incorrect, oh, yeah, that will only come after smelly skunks.
[05:30] <ice9> assholes
[05:30] <[ifroog] > intelikey, ^^
[05:31] <[ifroog] > ice9, and what would be your second name ?
[05:31] <intelikey> [ifroog]  oh...   that's right.   i should have remembered that
[05:31] <ice9> I dont get it
[05:31] <stoned> hey
[05:31] <stoned> bad
[05:31] <arun> intelikey: i'm just trying to decide which client to use. i don't like running thunderbird on linux, don't know why
[05:31] <hii> <3
[05:32] <stoned> less than 3?
[05:32] <ice9> <3
[05:32] <intelikey> arun i now just use fetchmail and Mail
[05:32] <stoned> what is going on in the world
[05:32] <[ifroog] > arun, dont like, or havent tried it ?
[05:32] <ice9> hii is a hottie
[05:32] <stoned> oh i get it
[05:32] <stoned> <3 is bunny ears
[05:32] <stoned> ahaha
[05:32] <hii> its a heart =[
[05:32] <intelikey> arun but that doesn't support html  have to dump to a file and browse if i want to see html stuffff
[05:32] <stoned> what
[05:33] <stoned> oh
[05:33] <Biovore> <3
[05:33] <stoned> well i'll be damned
[05:33] <Biovore> :D
[05:33] <arun> [ifroog]  i love thunderbird on windows, but i've used it on kubuntu as well, and i don't like the way it looks in kubuntu
[05:33] <stoned> I don't like animals
[05:33] <stoned> ew
[05:33] <stoned> but they are adorable
[05:33] <intelikey> redshadowhero +o can change that
[05:33] <stoned> from a distance that is
[05:34] <stoned> same thing with stuff
[05:34] <[Apollo] > lol
[05:34] <stoned> I use kmail
[05:34] <stoned> i ugh.. hate gtk
[05:34] <event_ide> any know how to get Beryl working?
[05:34] <stoned> it is ugly
[05:34] <se7en^Of^9> anybody know how to cp a folder stucture excluding files like .mp3
[05:34] <event_ide> anyone*
[05:34] <stoned> !beryl
[05:34] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:34] <arun> stoned: i agree with you wholeheartedly
[05:34] <redshadowhero> intelikey: +o?
[05:34] <[ifroog] > arun, ah, yes.. but i think you can change that..
[05:34] <Biovore> se7en^Of^9: you can try cp -r
[05:34] <[ifroog] > arun, it has a beautiful theme support
[05:35] <intelikey> redshadowhero oh sorry thought you were someone else...   +o  chan op       the sudo of irc
[05:35] <se7en^Of^9> Biovore: how do i exclude all mp3 files than
[05:35] <ice9> so can anybody tell me whats up with my wireless network not showing up?
[05:35] <arun> stoned: have you tried the latest version of the Flock browser? It is awesome... MUCH better, sweeping improvements to the browser since the last time i tried it. it's replaced firefox as my default browser.. looks great, functions much better, did i mention looks great?
[05:35] <intelikey> !wifi | ice9 i can point you at
[05:35] <stoned> flock?
[05:35] <arun> [ifroog]  all the themes that i liked are available for older versions of tbird only :)
[05:35] <stoned> what is flock my good man
[05:36] <Biovore> se7en^Of^9: cp -r /path/source/*  /path/dest/    that will copy all file in path/source to /path/dest
[05:36] <_mEo> Hi, how can I switch between qwerty and dvorak easily?
[05:36] <arun> stoned: yup. flock
[05:36] <ubotu> ice9 i can point you at: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:36] <arun> stoned: have you ever tried it?
[05:36] <redshadowhero> intelikey: uh.... okay..
[05:36] <stoned> i don't even know what it is
[05:36] <intelikey> ice9 that's all i can do with wifi Q's   hope it helps.
[05:36] <_mEo> Does anyone know how I can do this?
[05:37] <arun> stoned: i wrote about it here, if you're interested: http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/28/flock-this-way/ and here's a screenshot: http://themasterplan.in/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/snapshot_flock4.png
[05:37] <dmuser> Evenin everyone
[05:37] <intelikey> _mEo kde can do that with a hotkey   you may have to configure it tho
[05:37] <arun> evenin dmuser
[05:38] <josh_> Alright.
[05:38] <josh_> I need some help
[05:38] <dmuser> I have a question about partitioning a drive.  It's currently NTFS, and I had to force mount it because the partition table on it is corrupt.  QTPartition gets an error when I try to examine the drive.  How do I format and repartition this drive?
[05:38] <intelikey> _mEo in kcontrol > parifreals > keyboard    iirc
[05:39] <josh_> When I do the add/remove programs on the current version of linux, it claims that another process is using that.
[05:39] <[ifroog] > dmuser, to what filesystem ?
[05:39] <dmuser> ext3
[05:39] <josh_> However, I can't find the actual applicaiton that is using the file system
[05:39] <arun> dmuser: try gparted?
[05:39] <dmuser> Not yet
[05:39] <josh_> any ideas on how to fix that?
[05:39] <dmuser> It's more robust?
[05:39] <josh_> I've rebooted many times.
[05:39] <intelikey> josh_ close the package manager ?
[05:39] <arun> gparted is supposedly the best for this sort of thing
[05:39] <josh_> how would I go about doing that
[05:39] <[ifroog] > dmuser, are you familiar with thelinux disk naming scheme ?
[05:39] <dmuser> I shall try it momentarily then
[05:39] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | josh_
[05:39] <ubotu> josh_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:40] <arun> stoned: there?
[05:40] <josh_> in the terminal?
[05:40] <dmuser> ifroog, only loosely
[05:40] <Biovore> josh_: You can only have application open at a time that installs applications..  (things that use APT)  You have something running thats installing applications or quering the database..
[05:40] <[ifroog] > dmuser, Then mkfs.ext3 is the command. Check out the man.
[05:40] <josh_> thanks I already know that
[05:40] <josh_> but I dont understand what it is
[05:40] <intelikey> josh_ you are sudo'ing it....   all package manipulation needs root access
[05:40] <dmuser> man mkfs.ext3?
[05:41] <[ifroog] > yes.
[05:41] <josh_> whats sudo'ing it?
[05:41] <dmuser> Ok, thanks
[05:41] <intelikey> sudo blah
[05:41] <[ifroog] > np
[05:41] <josh_> huh?
[05:41] <intelikey> !sudo | josh_
[05:41] <ubotu> josh_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:41] <josh_> oh
[05:41] <intelikey> yeah that's the problem.
[05:42] <josh_> how do i fix that?
[05:42] <arun> sussussudio
[05:42] <intelikey> you read the link         ^
[05:42] <intelikey> and yes you can even do that in a console    w3m https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:43] <intelikey> next !
[05:43] <josh_> alright
[05:43] <josh_> so I understand that
[05:44] <josh_> but I don't understand hwo to tell which programs are using the apt installer
[05:44] <intelikey> i'll post that link one more time...   (err infonode)
[05:44] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | josh_
[05:44] <ubotu> josh_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:45] <intelikey> if all you want is the info    fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:45] <josh_> I want a fix
[05:45] <josh_> and that seems to be working.
[05:46] <_gtt_> what's the keyboard command to activate the k menu?
[05:46] <josh_> thank you
[05:46] <josh_> your a god.
[05:46] <hii> awe =]
[05:46] <intelikey> josh_ not even close.  but you're welcome
[05:47] <_gtt_> !keyboard
[05:47] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[05:47] <_gtt_> !Shortcuts
[05:47] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:47] <josh_> it seems like it was a poker game server error
[05:47] <josh_> like it kept on trying to set up a server
[05:47] <josh_> although I didn't want it to
[05:47] <josh_> lol
[05:47] <se7en^Of^9> i want to cp all files and subfolder but not all the .mp3 files in it anyone know how to do that
[05:47] <arunkale> does anyone know that the microsoft website actually sells ubuntu cds, and calls ubuntu an 'excellent alternative to windows'?
[05:48] <dmuser> "If you can't beat 'em; join 'em"?
[05:48] <intelikey> arunkale link ???
[05:48] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, huh, use find and rm with grep with regular expressions.
[05:48] <josh_> so, what music program plays .mp3?
[05:48] <josh_> Because Amaraok doesn't
[05:48] <intelikey> josh_ vlc
[05:48] <josh_> vlc?
[05:48] <josh_> kk
[05:48] <bob_sinclair> which are the popular command line torrents?
[05:49] <intelikey> !mp3 | josh_
[05:49] <ubotu> josh_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> josh_: Did you install "libxine1-ffmpeg" ?
[05:49] <josh_> No.
[05:49] <se7en^Of^9> [ifroog] : give me an example i am lost ... tied everything and didn't work
[05:49] <[ifroog] > bob_sinclair, bittorrent
[05:49] <josh_> I will, but I need vlc to play other content as well
[05:50] <intelikey> dmuser i thought it was "if you can't beet them, start a political campain against them..."   ?
[05:50] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, huh, just a sec..
[05:50] <dmuser> Only to idealists :P
[05:50] <intelikey> josh_ you don't actually need vlc  but vlc can do what most medai apps do without needing the "propritary" crap that they need.
[05:51] <intelikey> dmuser :)
[05:51] <se7en^Of^9> [ifroog] : its 10 am here i have a lot of time :)
[05:51] <bob_sinclair> [ifroog] : thats a bit old that client. i guess im looking for something better than rtorrent if its available
[05:51] <intelikey> ktorrent ?
[05:52] <|_ocke> hello
[05:52] <intelikey> |_ocke
[05:52] <|_ocke> can someone tell me what the process naem for Kasbar is so I can kill it
[05:53] <[ifroog] > se7en^Of^9, ok you want to remove all the files except mp3s ?
[05:53] <bob_sinclair> cli BT
[05:53] <|_ocke> I have no intention of having it run but my good friends 18 month old somehow started it on my system and it starts with KDE every time now
[05:53] <arunkale> intelikey: i lost the link.. trying to find it again
[05:53] <dmuser> Is it possible to view and modify reiserfs partitions in a Windows environment?  Or is that only possible with ext3(with a plugin)
[05:53] <intelikey> |_ocke remove the link/script in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:53] <|_ocke> none of the processes in htop even resemble the name and after killing 15 k* processes it didnt die, but my whole WM did
[05:54] <se7en^Of^9> [ifroog] : no i want to cp all folder and subfolder but not the mp3 inside
[05:54] <|_ocke> nothing exists in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:54] <|_ocke> ls -a
[05:54] <|_ocke> er
[05:54] <intelikey> hmmmm
[05:54] <intelikey> ok.   what about /etc/rc2.d/   ?
[05:55] <|_ocke> i see S20kde-guidance
[05:55] <|_ocke> and s99rc.local
[05:55] <|_ocke> and a bunch of others
[05:55] <intelikey> i dont think a child could affect that unless you leave a root gui running...
[05:55] <|_ocke> pico S99rc.local
[05:55] <|_ocke> er, crap
[05:55] <|_ocke> intelikey, i didnt either
[05:55] <|_ocke> and no i would never run ANY gui root
[05:56] <|_ocke> but apparently she ran Kasbar somehow and it has been running on the top right ever since
[05:56] <intelikey> so i'm still guessing it's in your $HOME
[05:56] <|_ocke> i would assume so
[05:56] <|_ocke> but i cant find it
[05:56] <|_ocke> and i cant find the process running in htop
[05:57] <|_ocke> none of the running processes look anything like Kasbar or anything close
[05:57] <intelikey> ok grep -HiRe bar ~
[05:57] <|_ocke> i spent the last 30 mins killing k* processes i didnt recognize, none of them did it and the last one killed my whole WM
[05:57] <intelikey> run that in a konsole see what it turns up
[05:57] <intelikey> grep -HiRe bar ~
[05:58] <|_ocke> nothing even close
[05:58] <|_ocke> mostly MP3s
[05:58] <intelikey> you may need to filter with   | grep -vie bin
[05:58] <|_ocke> k
[05:59] <|_ocke> /home/locke/.xsession-errors:QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'kasbarextension')
[05:59] <intelikey> that's it but it's not it.  anything else
[05:59] <|_ocke> nothing at all
[05:59] <|_ocke> i know its it but doesnt help me at all :P
[06:00] <intelikey> right
[06:00] <|_ocke> its gotta be a running process right?
[06:00] <intelikey> well heck    grep -HiRe bar /etc 2>/dev/null | grep -vie bin
[06:00] <|_ocke> its displaying parts of text files now :P
[06:01] <intelikey> |_ocke running but probably handeled by xinit not init  thus not in the ps output
[06:01] <|_ocke> ah
[06:02] <|_ocke> im definitely not a moron when it comes to linux and computer science in general so it is really bothering me :P
[06:02] <intelikey> |_ocke i have a thought.    you said "i'm not going to be running it"    so how about uninstalling it  ?
[06:02] <|_ocke> hmm..
[06:02] <|_ocke> i guess i could do that
[06:02] <|_ocke> good call
[06:02] <intelikey> that's the intelikey way  :)
[06:03] <|_ocke> apt-cache search kasbar == null :P
[06:03] <intelikey> .....
[06:03] <|_ocke> maybe ill go in synaptic and look :P
[06:03] <arunkale> Wow, just installed Evolution.  See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> it's groovy :)
[06:07] <arunkale> does evolution use the mbox format?
[06:07] <|_ocke> i see no hidden icons in system tray configure
[06:08] <intelikey> not systray  but the task bar itself
[06:08] <arunkale> Daisuke_Ido: do you use kickoff?
[06:09] <|_ocke> hmm
[06:09] <|_ocke> what could kickoff do for my problem?
[06:09] <|_ocke> i dont see the relevance from that page
[06:10] <intelikey> |_ocke did you right click the kasbar and see if you can "delete this pannel" ?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> arunkale: yes i do
[06:10] <intelikey> or was that a gnome thing
[06:10] <|_ocke> intelikey, i can delete individual Kasbar panels, but not the whole thing
[06:10] <intelikey> i'll shut up now.
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: remove from panel > applet > take your pick there
[06:11] <|_ocke> intelikey, and if i delete one it just closes the program relevant
[06:11] <arunkale> Daisuke_Ido: any bugs yet?
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not that i've run into
[06:12] <intelikey> when someone asks an fs or base system Q some ring me.
[06:12] <ardchoille> |_ocke: That's what it's suppoed to do. What are you wanting to do?
[06:12] <|_ocke> i want to kill Kasbar entirely
[06:12] <intelikey> ardchoille to kill kasbar permenantly
[06:12] <|_ocke> i dont want kasbar to run at all
[06:12] <|_ocke> im using the normal K taskbar
[06:13] <|_ocke> it is just redundant
[06:13] <|_ocke> if i wanted windowmaker buttons i'd run windowmaker
[06:13] <|_ocke> itd take a tenth the memory hehe
[06:14] <|_ocke> AHAHAHHHAHH!HH!H!H!
[06:14] <ardchoille> |_ocke: kasbar doesn't run until you launch it. you can do "ps aux | grep kasbar|, find the pid and kill it.
[06:14] <|_ocke> I FREAKING GOT IT
[06:14] <|_ocke> ardchoille, that doesnt work
[06:14] <|_ocke> ardchoille, there is no process with kasbar anywhere in the name
[06:14] <ardchoille> Then you've got something wrong because it works here
[06:14] <intelikey> |_ocke you got ?
[06:15] <|_ocke> but i just found a page showing how to start it, which is by right clicking the KDE taskbar -> add new panel -> Kasbar
[06:15] <intelikey> that's what i said  ^^^^
[06:15] <|_ocke> so by reverse intuition i right clicked taskbar, remove from panel -> kasbar (right)
[06:15] <intelikey> and you should be able to get rid the same way
[06:15] <|_ocke> intelikey, from what you said i right clicked on the kasbar
[06:16] <|_ocke> i never considered to right click on the taskbar on bottom
 but you might be on to something    right click the taskbar and  configure   see if you can kill kaz that way   (very next post) <intelikey> not systray  but the task bar itself
[06:16] <|_ocke> omg thank zeus/jesus/cthulhu/flying spaghetti monster its gone
[06:16] <|_ocke> eh
[06:16] <|_ocke> i guess im ignorant or scannign instead of reading
[06:17] <|_ocke> holy crap
[06:17] <|_ocke> i need a cigarette now
[06:18] <intelikey> so the truth of the matter is if you had killed kicker kasbar would have went with it.
[06:18] <intelikey> but restarting it would have restarted both
[06:19] <|_ocke> probably
[06:19] <|_ocke> now i have to walk someone through installing DD-WRT on their 54g over the phone
[06:20] <arunkale> can i minimise evolution to the panel?
[06:20] <arunkale> system tray*
[06:23] <Nancy_pauline> I'm in the process of moving over from Suse (micro-Novell-soft??)  and running Kubuntu right now.  If I enable multiverse will I get the dix codecs ....  etc?  If not,  what needs to be done?
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> enabling multiverse should be all you need to do
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> well, and updating and installing them, of course
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> but you get the idea
[06:25] <Nancy_pauline> I didn't see it after enabling I will look again though
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> Nancy_pauline: sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <ice9> how can I stop a specific module?
[06:27] <[ifroog] > intelikey, if <se7en^Of^9> get back asking for the mp3 thingy.. tell him to give this a try..
[06:28] <[ifroog] > cp `find |grep -e '[^\.mp3] $'` DESTINATION_DIR -rfv
[06:28] <[ifroog] > i Got to run..
[06:28] <[ifroog] > Thank you !
[06:29] <Nancy_pauline> Ok,  that worked.  Next question  please?  I'm running Opera and trying to get flash to work.  Such as Youtube,  etc.  Anything specific I need to know?  I've tried 2 different flash player thingies with No luck.
[06:29] <bob_sinclair> amy rtorrent users here?
[06:31] <Agent_bob> hmm  /msg neckserv doesn't work....   :)
[06:37] <ice9> is there a way to view available wireless networks?
[06:39] <bob_sinclair> !info knetworkmanager
[06:39] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[06:39] <bob_sinclair> ice9: use that its an tray icon
[06:39] <ice9> I have that, but it only shows wired connection and manual connection
[06:41] <Hobbsee> ice9: if you do an iwlist <wireless interface, like ath0> scan, does it bring up anything?
[06:41] <arunkale> i cant install thunderbird 2 from adept?
[06:43] <ice9> yes, lets of things
[06:43] <Scorpaen> i'm in trouble ....
[06:43] <Scorpaen> custom kernel
[06:43] <Scorpaen> :D
[06:44] <Scorpaen> and i accidentally overwrote the default kernel
[06:44] <Scorpaen> basically what's happening is: my macchine is stuck at mounting the root hd.
[06:44] <Scorpaen> it's reiserfs and i have reiserfs compiled in...
[06:44] <Scorpaen> i thikn i reversed my devices somehow. i have a pci controller and onboard PATA controlers for my PATA hard drives
[06:45] <Scorpaen> i just now took out 'boot offboard chipsets first' and it still didn't help
[06:45] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen fs support but no disk support
[06:45] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: do i need pc dos partition support?
[06:45] <Scorpaen> i didn't configure advanced partitoin
[06:45] <Scorpaen> i just now put htat back in but dindt' try it
[06:45] <Scorpaen> sorry for hte typos i'm exhausted
[06:46] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen you need disk support   and maybe partition support too
[06:46] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen ide-disk   ide-core
[06:46] <Agent_bob> assuming ide
[06:46] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: afaik i have my nforce2 and raid controller compiled in
[06:46] <Scorpaen> yes ide
[06:46] <Scorpaen> i'm in make menuconfig now
[06:47] <Scorpaen> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu?s=38cebe95a9d48a6fd7e605f4cc8b4c0b&
[06:47] <Scorpaen> i followed this guide
[06:47] <Scorpaen> works great if i could just get hte kernel correct
[06:47] <Scorpaen> :P
[06:47] <bob_sinclair> !wireless | ice9
[06:47] <ubotu> ice9: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen yeah ubuntu's modus operandus is bare kernel bloated initramfs image file
[06:49] <Scorpaen> i came from gentoo if that tells you anything
[06:49] <Scorpaen> i'm on Gutsy
[06:49] <Scorpaen> the alpha release
[06:49] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: please tell me more about this ide disk and ide core
[06:49] <Agent_bob> i know what gutsy gibon is   and that tells me more
[06:49] <Scorpaen> where do i find that in make menuconfig?
[06:50] <Scorpaen> yessir
[06:50] <Scorpaen> sorry
[06:50] <Scorpaen> Agent_bob: if i upload my .config somewhere, would you mind looking it over?
[06:50] <Scorpaen> and i can pastebin my lspci
[06:50] <Scorpaen> ?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> Scorpaen sure
[06:50] <Scorpaen> thanks man
[06:50] <Scorpaen> brb
[06:50] <Agent_bob> !paste
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <bharani> hi
[06:51] <Agent_bob> bharani