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[04:50] <bazhang> * [Lambodie_Dance] (~Tyler@<IP_ADDRESS>):
[04:50] <bazhang> nicked from chimpout
[06:34] <Flannel> um.  Why don't I see that?
[06:34] <Flannel> Oh fun.
[06:37] <Flannel> (not an issue)
 nrdb, Spying purposes, sorry can't tell, its classified
[15:59] <daftykins>  <ubottu2> ¤,Å&ü
[15:59] <daftykins> friend of yours? :)
[16:01] <DJones> daftykins: Nope, but already quit
[16:01] <daftykins> doh
[16:01] <DJones> Nobody else from that ip address either
[16:02] <daftykins> in the history of troublemakers? ah well that makes a change :>
[16:02] <daftykins> thanks DJones
[16:02] <daftykins> seems when people mention them they do a runner sometimes ;)
[16:04] <DJones> Yeah, I've set a +b on the ip anyway, but if you see them come back with a different ip & similar nick, can you let us know
[16:05] <daftykins> always do! though i don't keep logs myself of nicks, idents and IPs
[16:05] <daftykins> \o
[20:18] <DJones> @mark #ubuntu funkster Asking for help, when asked questions, just says "google", when pointed out that the 1st link googling is about a lightbuld, they ignore it, when asked again later, they just say "google"
[22:09] <Ben64> ok so theres been this guy for at least a month in #ubuntu under different names and IPs, who messes with people via PM
[22:09] <k1l_> who is it now?
[22:09] <Ben64> Jan 07 2015 15:22:52 *	ubagtu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu (requested by k1l (you are banned!))
[22:09] <Ben64> currently hateBEN
[22:10] <Ben64> seems affiliated with redruum based on the PMs i'm receiving
[22:10] <k1l_> i dont see or saw a hateben in #u
[22:10] <Ben64> yeah
[22:11] <Ben64> i disagreed with redruum, redruum left, i started getting PMs, then redruum joined again now, and hateBEN is no longer on the network
[22:12] <Ben64> its just annoying, i see them pop in randomly overt the past month-ish and see people saying things like "why is <x> sending me nasty PMs"
[22:12] <k1l_> well, when people harassing in PMs we cant do anything on there besides removing them from the channel, what in this case isnt the case. so you need to tell that to the freenode staff.
[22:12] <Ben64> ah i figured
[22:12] <k1l_> but so far we could not get the guys who is behind the harrassing PMs. and we cant just ban people without evidence.
[22:13] <k1l_> but we will have a look and i will look again at the logs.
[22:13] <Ben64> i spent much time piecing together his IPs, and I probably missed a ton
[22:14] <Ben64> well, godspeed


[23:16] <pleia2> added November stuff to http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ReportingPage
[23:16] <pleia2> and sorry for being so absent lately, work has been super hectic + life stuff
[23:18] <pleia2> I'll probably propose at the next meeting to just go live with our new wiki theme and go from there, so if anyone else wants to test before our meeting, please do :)


[00:01] <ogra_> great, rootfses built ... another 30-45min for system-image to import it
[00:14] <cyphermox> cool
[00:29] <imgbot> [00:29] <imgbot> [00:29] <ogra_> voila
[00:29]  * ogra_ is off
[00:29] <ogra_> happy testing :)
[02:03] <imgbot> [03:29] <imgbot> [03:29] <imgbot> [05:05] <Mirv> mornings
[05:23] <robru> Mirv: gooooood morning!
[05:27] <Mirv> rise & shine
[06:07] <bzoltan> Mirv:  I pinged slangasek yesterday, he ponged back, but he was very busy. Should we find an other guru to meditate on the change?
[06:45] <Mirv> bzoltan: I'm not sure who else would be as good a choice
[06:45] <bzoltan> Mirv:  for me anybody who is licensed to ack such package change is good
[06:48] <Mirv> bzoltan: I'd say it's mostly Steve we can reach https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-foundations-team/+members
[06:52] <Mirv> bzoltan: maybe though some of the core-devs? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members I'm not sure which of them are involved in the cross building efforts that could have a comment on it
[06:55] <bzoltan> Mirv: ehh... you are right, we need slangasek on this
[07:51] <popey> gah, bug 1392587
[08:12] <ToyKeeper> popey: Somehow, the new music app slipped into 160.  :(
[08:12] <ToyKeeper> It really wasn't ready to land yet.
[08:12] <ToyKeeper> Three boots out of four, its primary function (play) failed.
[08:12] <popey> ToyKeeper: been trying to reproduce what you have on that bug and can't yet
[08:13] <ToyKeeper> The ease of triggering it could be related to the amount of music on the SD card.
[08:13] <ToyKeeper> Just a hunch, since I have something like 1.5 GB of music on my card.
[08:14] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/media/phablet/SDCARD$ du -hs Music/
[08:14] <popey> 8.7G	Music/
[08:14] <popey> unlikely
[08:17] <jibel> ToyKeeper, I can partially reproduce the bug, the song plays in music app but the progress bar stays on 0
[08:17] <ToyKeeper> Basically, flash, boot, immediately go to the music scope and try to "play in music app" a song.
[08:20] <jibel> ToyKeeper, if you can reproduce can you attach /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.music_music_<someversion>.log
[08:20] <jibel> ToyKeeper, and dig this directory for any other relevant information
[08:20] <jibel> iahmad, if you can reproduce can you confirm the report
[08:21] <jibel> popey, is reverting the music app in the store an option?
[08:22] <jibel> ToyKeeper, for me the music app plays but is completely frozen
[08:22] <jibel> I cannot tap anything on the UI
[08:23] <ToyKeeper> Interesting.  Doesn't sound like the same symptoms, but it could be related.
[08:23] <ToyKeeper> For me, when it works it works pretty well.  But it doesn't usually work.
[08:23] <ToyKeeper> Any function which leads to the "Now playing" screen just ... does nothing.
[08:24] <iahmad> jibel, here is what I am seeing, go to music scope, tap on a song, tap on Play in music app => musick app launches => tap on play button => nothing happens
[08:24] <jibel> iahmad, add your comments to bug 1392587
[08:27] <popey> jibel: it's an option
[08:27] <popey> would need an image rebuild
[08:27] <jibel> popey, fix or revert, it would need a respin anyway
[08:27] <popey> yes
[08:28] <popey> iahmad: you shouldn't need to tap play
[08:28] <popey> iahmad: if you launch a song from the music scope just leave it, it *should* play
[08:29] <iahmad> popey, that's definitely not happening
[08:29] <popey> it was for me 5 mins ago, multiple times.
[08:29] <popey> trying to reproduce
[08:30] <dbarth_> good morning
[08:30] <dbarth_> trainguards: can i get a vivid silo for line 77
[08:30] <dbarth_> ?
[08:30] <popey> having slight issues given I just flashed my device and now I see this http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-11-14-083040.png
[08:34] <popey> gah, phone is now in a unity restart loop
[08:37]  * popey wipes
[08:41] <ToyKeeper> I added some logs to the bug.
[08:42] <brendand> how the hell could the new music app not be working ?
[08:42] <popey> this is what I don't understand.
[08:42] <popey> I had it working just now repeatedly. couldn't get it to fail.
[08:42] <popey> so I'm wiping my phone to re-test again.
[08:44] <popey> file:///usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.music/2.0.738/meta-database.js:37: Error: no such table: queue Unable to execute statement
[08:44] <popey> suspect
[08:44] <brendand> popey, did it in some way depend on something the old app put in place?
[08:44] <ToyKeeper> TBH, it looks kind of similar to what the gallery app does when it gets invoked via scope the first time instead of normally as an app.
[08:45] <ToyKeeper> After it works once, it seems to work pretty consistently.
[08:46] <popey> this scenario wasn't tested 1) flash phone, 2) update music app (without starting 1.x music app), 3) run tests.
[08:47] <brendand> popey, i was just thinking about this last night
[08:47] <brendand> popey, this is exactly why ad-hoc testing sucks
[08:48] <brendand> ogra_, are you in shock :)
[08:49] <ToyKeeper> Looks like everything is in good hands...  I'm going to go force myself to sleep instead of staying up 'till dawn again.
[08:49] <popey> thanks ToyKeeper !
[08:49] <brendand> ToyKeeper, thanks !
[08:49] <popey> really appreciate you testing it so hard ☻
[08:49] <jibel> Thanks ToyKeeper, sleep well!
[08:50] <brendand> hmm - it just worked for me...
[08:50] <brendand> i have my music on the sd card though...
[08:50]  * brendand tries again
[08:51] <popey> did you fresh flash though?
[08:51] <brendand> popey, yeah
[08:53] <popey> looks like the queue table doesn't exist, looks like a One Line Fix ™ to add a create table line in
[08:54] <Mirv> dbarth: vivid-006
[08:55] <dbarth> Mirv: ty
[08:58] <brendand> popey, worked again. this time with internal music
[08:58] <popey> it works via some code paths
[08:58] <popey> because createQueue() gets called in some places
[08:58] <popey> but not the place we need it
[08:58]  * popey is testing a one line fix
[08:59] <brendand> popey, do you know how that would be triggered?
[08:59] <popey> yes, add songs to the play queue
[08:59] <popey> it creates the queue
[08:59] <popey> but if you launch from the scope, there's a missing check
[08:59] <brendand> popey, ah it's launching from the scope
[08:59] <popey> in clearQueue it is missing a createQueue
[09:00] <popey> IMO
[09:00] <popey> <- not a developer
[09:02] <ogra_> subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['bzr', 'checkout', '--lightweight', u'lp:music-app', '-r', u'738', 'work']' returned non-zero exit status 3
[09:02] <ogra_> hmpf
[09:02] <popey> lp:music-app/remix
[09:03] <ogra_> popey, i'll try to shout that very loud, lets see f the smoke test devices in lexington hear it :P
[09:03] <popey> give it a ring, I hear there's some phones there
[09:04] <ogra_> obviously thats the first thing all devices do after install :/ (and fail, so we dont have a single test)
[09:04] <popey> bah
[09:04] <popey> #blamepopey
[09:04] <ogra_> nah, i told ou to let it in
[09:04] <popey> \o/ one line fix worked
[09:04] <ogra_> blame me
[09:05] <popey> brendand: wanna test?
[09:05] <popey> actually, let me fresh flash again to prove it
[09:05] <brendand> popey, sure
[09:06]  * popey wipes
[09:07] <jibel> popey, what's the fix?
[09:07] <popey> brendand: make phone writable, add new line at 36 in /usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.music/2.0.738/meta-database.js
[09:07] <popey>     db.transaction(
[09:07] <popey>         createQueue();
[09:07] <popey>         function(tx) {
[09:07] <popey> the createQueue(); line
[09:07] <popey> but you need to wipe all the databases to prove it
[09:08] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9002135/
[09:08] <popey> i am doing the nuke-and-pave option
[09:16] <popey> yup, fix works
[09:16]  * popey creates a merge
[10:36] <nik90> ogra_: I noticed the emulator for rtm-stable which is at #6, does not go past the loading scopes screen. It keep looping at that point with the black screen and showing scopes text with a spinner. Was the emulator checked?
[10:37] <nik90> ogra_: I am trying the devel-proposed channel now
[10:49] <brendand> Mirv, afaict rtm landing-003 has more changes than the top blocker - what do you think?
[10:49] <ogra_> img triggered
[10:50] <ogra_> nik90, yes, it was
[10:50] <ogra_> at lleast the x86 one
[10:53] <imgbot> [11:01] <Mirv> hmm, brendand dropped
[11:01] <Mirv> but, yes
[11:29] <bzoltan> slangasek: ping
[11:42] <dbarth> trainguards: ping? can i get a reconfig on silo 006 (vivid) please?
[11:47] <Mirv> dbarth: done
[12:03] <imgbot> [12:04] <imgbot> [12:04] <ogra_> gah
[12:04] <ogra_> that doesnt look like it pulled the new music app in
[12:04] <ogra_> popey, !
[12:07] <popey> oh dear
[12:08] <popey>     1.3.654 is certainly the latest version in the store.
[12:08] <ogra_> oh
[12:08] <ogra_> heh
[12:08] <popey> wassup?
[12:08] <ogra_> well, my script checks if a version is bigger ...
[12:08] <popey> lulz
[12:08] <popey> #blameogra
[12:08] <popey> well its a use case we dont do often
[12:08] <ogra_> ok, all fine ... i see 1.3.654 in the manifest
[12:08] <popey> but need to be able to
[12:09] <ogra_> right
[12:09] <popey> kk
[12:09] <ogra_> i need to special case click packages here
[12:09] <ogra_> debs cant go backwards
[12:09] <davmor2> popey: hmmm I see a potential issue with the store then, I see a fitbit scope update and reminders update I'm assuming that this means that the store only see updates as higher numbers too
[12:10]  * popey wipe/updates phone
[12:10] <davmor2> ogra_: ^
[12:11] <ogra_> davmor2, oh, yeah, might be
[12:12] <davmor2> jibel: ^ I'm flashing and starting the sanity on 161
[12:12] <ogra_> \o/
[12:12]  * ogra_ upgrades
[12:15] <ogra_> my OTA definitely downgraded music
[12:15]  * ogra_ has the ugly pinkish back
[12:16] <ogra_> wow, after using the new one for a while the old one feels like a usability nughtmare
[12:16] <ogra_> *night
[12:20] <mvo> trainguard - looks like there are plenty of silos available, do you mind if I get one for click?
[12:20] <mvo> trainguard I can do that all myself, just wanted to make sure I don't step on toes
[12:21] <ogra_> mvo, just be aware that rtm is hard frozen
[12:21] <mvo> vivid
[12:22] <mvo> so all good :)
[12:22] <ogra_> yeah, i assumed so, just saying :)
[12:22] <mvo> yeah :)
[12:22]  * ogra_ had enough accidents for one day :)
[12:25] <mvo> ogra_: so 19 silos in use out of 30, am I seeing this correctly?
[12:26] <ogra_> mvo, yeah
[12:26] <ogra_> grab one as you like
[12:49] <Mirv> mvo: you need to use "trainguards" in plural, otherwise at least I don't get a highlight :)
[12:49] <mvo> ups, sorry
[12:50] <mvo> Mirv: but no worries, I assigned myself a silo, seems like plenty are available right now
[12:50] <Mirv> yes, I see, great!
[12:57] <olli> ogra_, how are things
[13:10] <ogra_> olli, final sanity test is running ... the sneaked in music app caused an issue and we rolled it back
[13:10] <ogra_> olli, i think you can exppect a promotion beofre EOD though
[13:10] <olli> k
[13:10] <olli> ogra_, I thought we said that if we hit issues, we'd abort the promotion
[13:11]  * olli reads jfunk's doc again
[13:11] <ogra_> well, we're back to the state of 159 plus the mtp fix ... QA agereed to sign this off if davmor2's sanity test passes now
[13:11] <ogra_> *agreed
[13:12] <ogra_> we had meetings about this, no worries :)
[13:28] <olli> ogra_, this is more about "does it make sense to continue or can we do something else in the meantime" ... that was the intention of jfunk's mail
[13:28] <olli> but I guess it is what it is now, not complaining about getting an image promoted
[13:29] <kenvandine> rvr, i don't see any new strings in that system-settings diff
[13:33] <ogra_> olli, QA moved on ... there is only one person doing the final sanity testing now
[13:38] <rvr> kenvandine: I was trying to confirm with brendand's silo diff tool
[13:39] <rvr> kenvandine: SettingsItemTitle { text: i18n.tr ("Time zone:") } ... text: i18n.tr ("Set the time and date:") ... but that's in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190208776/ubuntu-system-settings_0.3%2B15.04.20141112~rtm-0ubuntu1_0.3%2B15.04.20141112.1~rtm-0ubuntu1.diff.gz and I know it is not reliable.
[13:59] <rvr> kenvandine: I used brendand's tool and I still see those changes to the strings. Some of them are already in Launchpad, but this one is not This string is not currently in Launchpad + text: i18n.tr("Let the phone detect your location:")
[14:01] <kenvandine> rvr, that wasn't new in this diff though
[14:01] <kenvandine> it just moved lines
[14:01] <kenvandine> line 126 and line 136 in the diff on LP
[14:01] <cjwatson> I must see about making it possible to request Launchpad to compute a diff between two arbitrary releases of the same package.  It already has that internally.
[14:01] <kenvandine> cjwatson, that would rock!
[14:02] <cjwatson> As well as https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/259422 of course.
[14:02] <kenvandine> cjwatson, i've done that manually so many times in the past
[14:03] <rvr> kenvandine: Yes, I can see there are lines being just moved, but that one is new
[14:03] <kenvandine> rvr, that isn't new in this diff though
[14:03] <davmor2> jibel, ogra_, olli: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ar4x4tOf_c14QKCyKn3r4YQnJ3AZdnEXdjTOAhyXWXU/edit?pli=1#gid=1608647582
[14:04] <kenvandine> rvr, that string just moved
[14:04] <ogra_> oooh the green !
[14:04] <davmor2> ogra_: and don't ask me jibel gets to say the promote words
[14:04] <ogra_> olli, ^^^
[14:04] <rvr> kenvandine: Why it is not in launchpad, then?
[14:04] <kenvandine> rvr, i have no idea
[14:04] <rvr> kenvandine: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-system-settings/es/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Let+the+phone+detect+your+location
[14:04] <olli> ogra_, what are the final build numbers that get promoted
[14:05] <kenvandine> but it was not added in this branch
[14:05] <ogra_> olli, well, jfunk rightly guessed for 161 in the end :)
[14:05] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/titles-uis-tweaks-rtm/+merge/241578
[14:05] <kenvandine> rvr, look at line 136 there
[14:05] <rvr> kenvandine: In the changelog there are two entries, one is yours and the previous one is from Sebastien Bacher
[14:06] <kenvandine> yes, that string was moved in seb128's branch
[14:06] <kenvandine> but not new
[14:06] <olli> ogra_, and for the spanish build
[14:06] <kenvandine> you can see that in the diff on LP
[14:07] <jibel> davmor2, hold on if it's decided to proceed with promotion the regression test plan must be finished first. As per jfunk's email we stopped regression testing and were back to silos.
[14:07] <davmor2> jibel: I did say it would be your call
[14:08] <rvr> kenvandine: Hmmm... I see.
[14:09] <ogra_> jibel, ugh, i thought that was still running and only stopped this morning when we found the music issue
[14:09] <jibel> ogra_, there are a couple of tests not finished
[14:09] <ogra_> ah, can we finish them ?
[14:11] <kenvandine> rvr, oh... you filed bug 1389786 about that already :)
[14:12] <kenvandine> rvr, which just landed in vivid
[14:13] <boiko> Mirv: row 20 of the spreadsheet is marked as landed, but the MRs against telephony-service don't seem to be merged back tro trunk
[14:13] <boiko> Mirv: the MRs are not marked as merged either
[14:13] <ogra_> davmor2, emulator ans mako ?
[14:13] <boiko> Mirv: would you mind helping me figuring out what happened?
[14:14] <rvr> kenvandine: Ok, everything makes sense now
[14:14] <davmor2> ogra_: yeap they need hitting too, I was just happy about the image passing for once :)
[14:14] <kenvandine> rvr, cool
[14:17] <davmor2> ogra_, jibel: mako flashing now
[14:18]  * ogra_ hugs davmor2
[14:27] <Mirv> boiko: I don't know _what_ has happened, but indeed all the others worked fine but it, and there's no error in the clean log https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-022-3-merge-clean/4/console
[14:33] <Mirv> boiko: merged and synced manually.
[14:38] <davmor2> ogra_: I want a quick confirm that the emulator image is 127 right?
[14:39] <ogra_> one sec
[14:39] <ogra_> davmor2, yes, confirmed
[14:41] <davmor2> ogra_: thanks
[15:10] <boiko> Mirv: thanks
[15:15] <olli> ogra_, ping
[15:20] <ogra_> olli, heyx
[15:22] <brendand> ogra_, does u-d-f automatically use the cached image if there is one?
[15:23] <ogra_> brendand, it should (as i understand, ask sergiusens for details)
[15:23] <bzoltan> slangasek:  do you think you have few minutes for the qtbase change I have proposed?
[15:24] <ogra_> bzoltan, didnt mvo look at that yesterday afternoon ?
[15:24] <bzoltan> ogra_:  Did he?
[15:24]  * ogra_ thought he saw a lot of commenst here yesterday
[15:25] <brendand> Mirv, for rtm/landing-003 i think the diff has some more changes than just the bug mentioned, do you agree?
[15:25]  * ogra_ has a dejavu
[15:25] <bzoltan> ogra_: I would be happy to see any smart comments or feedback on that chnage
 Mirv, afaict rtm landing-003 has more changes than the top blocker - what do you think?
 hmm, brendand dropped
 but, yes
[15:27] <brendand> ogra_, yeah connection problems today
[15:27] <bzoltan> ogra_: it is a fairly big change in the debian/ space of the qtbase so it will require  a guru ack for sure
[15:27] <ogra_> bzoltan> slangasek: We need your eyes on the new qtbase candidate which brings the multiarch cross supporting qmake
 slangasek: there's a debdiff of Zoltan's work at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190250795/qtbase-opensource-src_5.3.2%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu2_5.3.2%2Bdfsg-4ubuntu3~vivid1~test1.diff.gz (don't mind the changelog stuff, I'd do a proper build after there's agreement on the method)
 Mirv: nice, that looks pretty straightforward
[15:27] <ogra_> bzoltan, not that "lot" i seemed to remember :P
[15:27] <bzoltan> bzoltan:  I was hoping for slangasek's input because we were talking about the problem this changes solves in DC
[15:28] <bzoltan> ogra_: lot .. I mean a new binary package and changes in the rules file plus a new patch file
[15:28] <ogra_> i mean "lot of comments from mvo"
[15:28] <bzoltan> ogra_: :) the change is not that big
[15:29] <bzoltan> ogra_:  ahh... sorry
[15:29] <thostr_> ogra_: do you know by incident where our coverage testing results go to?
[15:30] <ogra_> thostr_, nope, you have to ask QA ... brendand ^^^^^
[15:30] <ogra_> i know where the sanity tests go to ...
[15:30] <thostr_> righ
[15:30] <ogra_> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ar4x4tOf_c14QKCyKn3r4YQnJ3AZdnEXdjTOAhyXWXU/edit?pli=1#gid=1608647582
[15:31] <ogra_> thats the last sanity run
[15:31] <thostr_> it can only find ci.ubuntu.com but there is very little testing visible there
[15:31] <brendand> thostr_, oh the coverage dashboard?
[15:31] <thostr_> brendand: yes
[15:32] <brendand> thostr_, i seem to have lost the link, but alesage would know
[15:34] <brendand> ogra_, 161 isn't built yet?
[15:35] <ogra_> brendand, ??
[15:36] <brendand> ogra_, is it built or am i just not seeing updates?
[15:36] <brendand> ogra_, i may not since i'm on 3g
[15:36] <ogra_> i saw the update and am running it since 2pm
[16:00] <davmor2> ogra_, jibel: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/emulator.png I'd say that is working too :) still running tests on it, it's slow
[16:00] <ogra_> you know that "it is booting to UI" is enough for me :)
[16:09] <alesage> thostr_, refreshing these results, this project is deprecated and we're preparing something for the new uci-engine http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/gaps/project/
[16:13] <thostr_> alesage: the data there is massively out of date...
[16:13] <thostr_> alesage: don't we have anything more up to date anywhere?
[16:15] <alesage> thostr_, I'm updating as we speak, a few min pls; else not that I'm aware of
[16:16] <thostr_> alesage: thanks
[16:28] <davmor2> ogra_: one bug with the emulator on first run you set a pin, if you shutdown and then restart the emulator the default pin has changed from whatever you set it to, back to 0000
[16:31] <ogra_> davmor2, file it ... not a blocker if we point to it imho
[16:33] <elopio> cihelp: I could use a review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-test-cases/dep8-app-startup/+merge/241613
[16:37] <alesage> elopio I'll run that on device as promised
[16:38] <elopio> alesage: cool.
[16:40] <pmcgowan> Mirv, silo 22 says built but its not?
[16:55] <brendand> olli, can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1389767 land?
[16:55] <brendand> olli, or is it only top blockers right now?
[16:57] <olli> pmcgowan, ^
[16:57] <olli> brendand, I think we are not going to consider this from >161
[16:57] <olli> about to send an update
[16:58] <olli> brendand, via LT mail from Ogra and something from pmcgowan and I
[16:58] <brendand> olli, ok - because it's been thrown in the same silo as a topblocker
[16:58] <olli> hrm
[16:58] <olli> ppl shouldn't be doing that
[16:58] <ogra_> right, i'll do a summary in the LT mail today ... once i can also announce the promotion (or not)
[16:58] <pmcgowan> brendand, ah as it was approved earlier
[16:58] <brendand> olli, yeah i like one bug per silo myself
[16:59] <ogra_> brendand, i'll make that a req. with todays LT mail
[17:00] <ogra_> brendand, currently there are only 6 (?) fixes allowed to land til next promotion
[17:00] <pmcgowan> olli, ogra_ given this is a tested silo as is, we may need an exception so as to not cause churn with changing rules
[17:00] <ogra_> right
[17:29] <davmor2> ogra_: ofcourse I blame rsalveti for the emulator issue
[17:31] <ogra_> davmor2, of course !
[18:40] <ogra_> so lets do a promotion then :)
[18:51] <ogra_> [18:51] <ogra_> (this is krillin 161, mako 133, generic and generic_x86 127)
[18:51] <ogra_> olli, FYI ^^^
[18:53] <pmcgowan> sweet
[18:55] <popey> no notification about it here
[18:55] <ogra_> http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/krillin/
[18:56] <ogra_> well, it is definitely in the channel
[18:56] <ogra_> with the right timestamp
[19:07] <pmcgowan> ogra_, I was expecting some packages to appear in silo 22 but doent seem to be building
[19:20] <pmcgowan> trainguards anyone can tell me about silo 22
[19:20] <pmcgowan> on rtm that is
[19:21] <ogra_> sorry, i ran into some minor desaster
[19:21] <ogra_> pmcgowan, 22 hasnt been tested by the uploader yet
[19:21] <ogra_> packages seem to have built
[19:22] <ogra_> pmcgowan, it also has a ~testX revision, i doubt that is want you want
[19:23] <pmcgowan> ogra_, its the test silo for that blocker
[19:23] <ogra_> (and a note saying:  Ping brendand before manual testing this, as requested by brendand.)
[19:23] <pmcgowan> but there are no debs there today
[19:23] <pmcgowan> I tested it earlier this week
[19:23] <ogra_> it failed to buuld
[19:23] <pmcgowan> and timo updated it with a new fix
[19:23] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-022/+packages
[19:24] <pmcgowan> I'll send them a note asking to get it building
[19:24] <ogra_> fails tests apparently
[19:24] <popey> pmcgowan: so looking at your mail, I guess we're blocked from uploading _any_ core apps at all (including the now fixed music) ?
[19:25] <ogra_> which is pretty bad wrt music at least
[19:25] <pmcgowan> popey, you could appeal to the powers that be for music
[19:25] <pmcgowan> yeah we sure wanted the new app
[19:25] <ogra_> since we would ship something totally unsupported
[19:26] <popey> who are the powers that be?
[19:26] <popey> (serious question)
[19:26] <pmcgowan> mainly joe
[19:26] <ogra_> oh, he decides ?
[19:26] <pmcgowan> popey, I will raise it on mon
[19:26] <ogra_> now that would be good :)
[19:27] <ogra_> (he's a fan of the new one)
[19:27] <pmcgowan> indeed we all are
[19:28] <popey> We can certainly better prepare for the next store upload, with testing evidence, logs if required.
[19:28] <ogra_> fixed lp branch location :)
[19:28] <pmcgowan> yep
[19:29] <pmcgowan> only question is adding to the image
[19:29] <pmcgowan> maybe we can get it for wave 2
[20:52] <bfiller> robru: could you delete rtm silo 12 and recreate a vivid silo instead please?
[21:03] <robru> bfiller: sure one sec
[21:05] <robru> bfiller: ok vivid 15
[21:47] <bfiller> thanks robr
[21:54] <brendand> ogra_, did we end up getting a promotion?
[21:58] <brendand> pmcgowan, olli - if there was a decision on silo 3 i missed it - do we want to land it with the non-top blocker in?
[22:00] <pmcgowan> brendand, we did promote and yes lets land silo3 as it is
[22:05] <brendand> pmcgowan, after i test it of course :)
[22:09] <pmcgowan> brendand, oh that
[22:12] <ogra_> brendand, yep, we did ... just finished the landing mail


[00:19] <Ubulette> what is the max size for a ppa ?
[00:19] <gnomefreak> 1 gig
[00:19] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: you can ask for more but 1 gig is max atm
[00:20] <Ubulette> i'm already at 850M :P
[00:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[00:20] <gnomefreak> thats why im not pushing alot ot ppa
[00:21] <gnomefreak> i have to fix sunbird hopfully tomorro
[00:21] <gnomefreak> tomorrow
[00:21] <gnomefreak> but i have to figure out how to use the script, anyway good night
[00:22] <Ubulette> i wanted to do sunbird head with xul1.9 but i guess I have to forget ppa
[00:24] <Fujitsu> Ubulette: Or ask for a larger PPA.
[00:25] <Ubulette> Fujitsu, how/where ?
[00:26] <Fujitsu> Ubulette: Not sure. Maybe a question on the launchpad or soyuz project.
[00:26] <Ubulette> i do mostly mozilla stuff so it's big but i'm trying to make those beasts smaller by sharing the xul core
[00:45] <Peaker> When I created my branch it asked me to give it a public key. Is there a URL I can go to to give Launchpad my public key?
[00:46] <Peaker> also, how do I allow others to push into my branch?
[00:46] <Fujitsu> Peaker: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editpgpkeys
[00:47] <Peaker> Fujitsu: thanks!
[00:47] <Fujitsu> You would have to create a team, and move the branch into that team.
[00:48] <Peaker> Is there a way to move the branch to be trunk?
[00:48] <Fujitsu> Peaker: For a project?
[00:49] <Peaker> yeah
[00:49] <Fujitsu> https://launchpad.net/someproject/trunk/+source should let you do it.
[00:51] <Peaker> Fujitsu: thanks again
[00:51] <Fujitsu> No problem.
[00:52] <Peaker> I can't find my branch in the search dialog there though
[00:53] <Peaker> of the bzr/no-source-control branch selection
[00:53] <Peaker> I try to use my launchpad branch for this, it says its an invalid value, its not in the branch search either
[00:55] <Fujitsu> Peaker: What's the name of the branch?
[00:55] <Peaker> I called it main in my project, the URL turned out to be<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:55] <Peaker> not sure what name I should use here, but eyal main and enough are not finding any branches in the search dialog
[00:56] <Fujitsu> Peaker: Try using ~username/project/branch.
[00:57] <Ubulette> gasp, numbers were not uptodate. i'm over a gig now: 40 source packages (327.2 MiB)  273 binary packages (705.3 MiB)  Estimated archive size: 1.0 GiB
[00:57] <Ubulette> i'm gonna fire a question :)
[00:57] <Fujitsu> Ubulette: Hah.
[00:57] <Fujitsu> Peaker: Hm, typing in main found it in the search.
[00:59] <Peaker> Fujitsu: oh how did I miss that? sorry :)
[00:59] <Fujitsu> Great, seems to be set up now :)
[01:00] <Fujitsu> But I need to leave now.
[01:22] <Peaker> who has write access to a branch? I don't see where I can specify that
[01:27] <Peaker> how light-weight is a launchpad branch? is it ok to create one for each little feature I am developing? will they share a bzr repository?
[01:38] <g2g591> i'm having trouble uploading to my ppa, even though dput says it is successful, the build doesn't appear in the status page
[01:40] <g2g591> hello?
[01:40] <Peaker> in other words, how can I create multiple hosted branches in the same repository?
[01:41] <g2g591> when i try to upload my package to my ppa they don't appear in the page listing the status of the build (https://edge.launchpad.net/~g2g591/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all)
[01:42] <g2g591> never mind
[01:42] <cprov-out> g2g591: have you received an email ?
[01:43] <cprov-out> g2g591: saying that your upload was *accepted* ?
[01:43] <g2g591> i just checked and now finally my latest attempt got through
[01:44] <cprov-out> g2g591: once you receive the mentioned email your source should appear in the list (+you/+archive) and the builds will be created within approximately 30 minutes
[01:46] <g2g591> ok sounds good
[01:54] <Peaker> after a bit of research it seems that launchpad requires me to upload the entire repository/history for every branch I make. this makes hosted branches not really an option when it comes to creating one-per-feature, is this the case?
[02:01] <jml> Peaker: depends on the size of your branch :)
[02:02] <jml> Peaker: we are working on ways to make hosted branches share information.
[02:02] <Peaker> well if the repo was shared the size of the branch would be around the size of a revision ID I'd suppose :)
[02:03] <Peaker> wouldn't it make sense to have either 1 repository per project, or a repository entity a project can have multiple of, and each branch live inside a repo?
[02:03] <Peaker> I assume bzr is smart about pushing to a branch inside a remote repository - knowing it only has to send stuff not in the remote repo
[02:04] <jml> Peaker: there are certain trust issues with sharing repositories.
[02:05] <Peaker> can't you let users handle these? Let the user who creates a repo specify who has access to it?
[02:07] <jml> that might well work.
[02:09] <Peaker> oops, killing dcopserver is not a good idea :)
[02:16] <Peaker> did you reply? Sorry if I missed it - about why using repo's is a problem?
[02:16] <Peaker> (at least if users specify who can access it)
[02:17] <jml> Peaker: all I said was that what you suggested might well work.
[02:18] <jml> Peaker: in any case, our problem isn't that we don't know how to do it, our problem is that days are too short.
[02:18] <Peaker> jml: sleep is a poor substitute for coffee
[02:19] <Peaker> I think I saw the blueprint say the motivation is that you save storage space, which may be one
[02:19] <Peaker> but I think the users benefit a lot too - because they can push new branches in no-time
[02:19] <jml> right.
[02:19] <Peaker> btw: You host the branches with no working trees, I assume?
[02:19] <jml> we're aware of that, we just wanted to focus on one problem at a time. :)
[02:19] <jml> right.
[02:19] <Peaker> does bzr allow doing that easily?
[02:20] <jml> yes. by default, push doesn't create a working tree.
[02:20] <Peaker> oh, that simple :)
[02:20] <Peaker> damn I love bzr :)
[02:20] <jml> me too.
[02:21]  * jml -> lunch
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[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #158570 in soyuz "Please allow multiple PPAs per user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158570
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #152746 in bzr "bzr commit to bzr+ssh hangs on 'No handlers could be found for logger "bzr"'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152746
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #158574 in soyuz "+archive doesn't show all packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158574
[07:49] <carlos> morning
[08:26] <mdke> is there any way to report errors on codebrowse?
[08:26] <mdke> I get errors when trying to browse into a directory at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files
[08:26] <mdke> 500 Internal Error
[08:28] <mdke> just a regular Launchpad bug? I don't see a subproject for it
[08:28] <mwhudson> mdke: file a bug?
[08:28] <mwhudson> well, let me look first
[08:29] <mwhudson> oh
[08:30] <mdke> ah, is it the launchpad-bazaar project I want?
[08:31] <mwhudson> well
[08:31] <mwhudson> it's a known bug this one
[08:31] <mwhudson> see the last couple of comments in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/88286
[08:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88286 in loggerhead "Loggerhead does not escape special characters when embedding a revision ID in a URL" [Medium,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Robey Pointer (robey)
[08:31] <mwhudson> cherrypy 'helpfully' converts any %2Fs in the url to /s
[08:32] <mwhudson> (in *addition* to the usual url-decoding)
[08:32] <mdke> right. I'm worried by the "can't be fixed" comment :)
[08:32] <mwhudson> probably the fix is "dump cherrypy"
[08:33] <mdke> hmm. And is there any other way to browse branches until then?
[08:33] <mwhudson> if it's any consolation, it will become less of a problem as you start using bazaar, as then the revids of the revisions you are browsing won't be url-encoded paths
[08:33] <mdke> I suppose that is some consolation, yeah
[08:34] <mwhudson> well, fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/138021 would certainly ameliorate the problem
[08:34] <mdke> although that particular branch is historical so we won't get many revisions to it
[08:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138021 in launchpad-bazaar "loggerhead should generate links based on revision numbers and file paths" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:34] <warp10> Hi all
[08:34] <mdke> shall we reopen the first bug you mention?
[08:35] <mwhudson> mdke: perhaps file a new, more specific one
[08:36] <mdke> mwhudson: would you do it? i don't really know what it's all about
[08:39] <mwhudson> mdke: ok
[08:42] <mwhudson> mdke: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/158584
[08:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 158584 in loggerhead "can't browse to revisions whose revid contains %2F in loggerhead/codebrowse" [Undecided,New]
[08:45] <mdke> mwhudson: thanks. Is there no way simply to view the working tree without having to worry about revision ids and such? ala svn
[08:46] <mwhudson> well
[08:47] <mwhudson> links like http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files/head:?file_id=2698%401e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9%3Atrunk%3Awebsite-index _work_
[08:47] <mdke> whoosh
[08:47] <mwhudson> but as loggerhead doesn't generate them itself, actually browsing like this is a total pain
[08:48] <mwhudson> i'm flying to the us tomorrow and was thinking about working on this sort of stuff in the airport and on the plane _anyway_
[08:48] <mdke> that would be nice :)
[08:49] <mdke> it seems to me, at least maybe because I'm used to svn, that basic functionality of browsing a working tree shouldn't be impeded by having advanced functionality like revisions and history and so on
[08:49] <mwhudson> well, the tree-based view of the world is very entrenched in svn
[08:50] <mdke> these long urls scare me, too
[08:50] <mwhudson> there's a different bug for that :)
[08:50] <mdke> it may be entrenched, but viewing the working tree is really useful
[08:51] <mdke> especially if I want to show someone a single file without asking them to checkout the whole branch
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #158584 in loggerhead "can't browse to revisions whose revid contains %2F in loggerhead/codebrowse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158584
[08:51] <mwhudson> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files/head:/website-index
[08:54] <mdke> mwhudson: anyway, I'll subscribe to the bugs :)
[08:54] <mdke> thanks for your help
[08:54] <mwhudson> mdke: no worries
[08:55] <mwhudson> mdke: it's a problem i've known about for a while, this is the first time someone other than me has complained about it though
[08:55] <mwhudson> gives me a bit more impetus to do something about it
[08:57] <mdke> cool
[08:57] <mdke> our migration to bzr has been a bit bumpy!
[08:58] <mwhudson> :(
[08:59] <mwhudson> it would be good to get a mail about it sent to the bazaar list
[09:00] <mdke> ok, will do.
[09:06] <mwhudson> it's something that we'd really like to be easy, of course
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #158593 in launchpad "Java take more cpu and memory " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158593
[10:11] <mwhudson> that's a quality bug report
[10:57] <proppy> hi
[10:57] <proppy> how to de-assign myself from a but I was assigned to ?
[10:57] <proppy> s/but/bug :)
[11:01] <mwhudson> mdke: thanks
[11:02] <matsubara> proppy, click the down arrow icon near the assignee name and choose Nobody
[11:03] <proppy> matsubara: thanks
[11:04] <matsubara> proppy, np
[11:20] <bigon> hi, could a lp admin remove empathy - 0.21.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2 from the telepathy ppa?
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #158633 in launchpad "No "at" sign with Kubuntu 7.10 GB/Internl kbd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158633
[12:06]  * Fujitsu wonders why people do that.
[12:07] <Fujitsu> `Notifying you of bugs or difficulties in your program closely resembles an obstacle race.'
[12:46] <effie_jayx> anyone here to offer a little help on plural forms for rosseta?
[12:47] <Tonio_> hi there
[12:47] <Tonio_> I have a little question concerning the ppa
[12:48] <Tonio_> is it using itself as a packages source during the build ?
[12:48] <Fujitsu> Tonio_: It builds against itself, yes.
[12:48] <Fujitsu> (you can see the sources.list being overridden near the start of the build log)
[12:48] <Tonio_> Fujitsu: nice, I couldn't do my current work without this :)
[12:48] <Tonio_> Fujitsu: ho okay, will have a look at that :)
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #158668 in malone "It should be possible to have the bug description in bug notifications" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158668
[14:05] <ubotu> New bug: #158680 in launchpad-answers "Create link for Question # to that Launchpad Answer page " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158680
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #158692 in malone "Import a bug from debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158692
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #158696 in malone "Add a report on upstream bug status for a distribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158696
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #158697 in malone "Push comments to debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158697
[14:44] <jelmer> is there some way to disable the list of existing bugs when users are reporting a bug?
[14:44] <Hobbsee> why would you want to?
[14:45] <jelmer> they now simply comment on bugs that appear similar to theirs but are different
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #158700 in malone "Request documentation for e-mail interface via e-mail" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158700
[14:45] <jelmer> launchpad has the ability to mark bugs as duplicates
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #158701 in malone "Import comments from debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158701
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #158702 in malone "Import comments from Roundup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158702
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #158703 in malone "Import comments from Trac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158703
[14:45] <ddaa> that's interesting
[14:45] <jelmer> but can't split existing bugs
[14:45] <jelmer> afaik
[14:46] <mrevell> jelmer: Is this becoming a problem for bzr?
[14:46] <jelmer> it's happening for bzr-svn
[14:46] <mrevell> right
[14:46] <jelmer> not really a problem yet, but I thought I'd bring it up
[14:46] <mrevell> Thanks, it's an interesting point. Do you have any example bug numbers?
[14:46] <ddaa> I think it makes sense to give project owner a choice between "more duplicate" and "more off-the-mark comments"
[14:48] <jelmer> mrevell: bug 53837
[14:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53837 in bzr-svn "Rename support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53837 - Assigned to Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer)
[14:48] <ddaa> effectively, disabling the "guided bug filing" for a project means "do not look for duplicates before filing a bug", which is not the usual policy as I understand it, but it can make sense for arcane things like bzr-svn.
[14:48] <jelmer> ddaa: ultimately, a "change this comment into separate bug" option would be what I'm looking for
[14:49] <mrevell> jelmer: That's pretty much a support request. It reminds me of the projects that people create to request a ShipIt CD.
[14:50] <jelmer> mrevell: this particular one was an actual bug (it hsa now been fixed)
[14:50] <mrevell> Ah right
[14:50] <ubotu> New bug: #158705 in malone "Push comments to Trac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158705
[14:50] <ubotu> New bug: #158708 in malone "Push comments to Bugzilla" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158708
[14:52] <ddaa> jelmer: "turn this comment into a new bug report" sounds like useful functionality, albeit tricky to get right. Can you file a bug about it?
[14:53] <ddaa> and better than "disable duplicate search when filing new bugs"
[14:53] <jelmer> yes, will do
[14:53] <jelmer> thanks for commenting
[14:55] <ubotu> New bug: #158710 in malone "Import comments from Bugzilla" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158710
[15:01] <Daviey> "me to" button would be equally useful IMO.. helps gauage Importiance
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #158715 in malone "When a bug already has watches, offer them when adding a new task" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158715
[15:08] <jelmer> Daviey: me too :-)
[15:09] <jelmer> Subscribers is usually a good indication though
[15:10] <Daviey> true.. but there are bugs that relate to me.. that i don't sub' to.
[15:10] <Daviey> And i'm sure there are others.
[15:13] <ubotu> New bug: #158704 in malone "Push comments to Roundup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158704
[15:16] <ubotu> New bug: #158718 in launchpad "ability to split bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158718
[15:40] <ubotu> New bug: #158732 in malone "Make it more obvious how to add another package to a bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158732
[16:10] <ubotu> New bug: #158741 in launchpad "need a way for downloads with multiple related files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158741
[16:41] <ignas> is launchpad available in other languages?
[16:42] <ignas> i seem to be unable to find the place in which i could set it to some different language...
[16:43] <gmb> ignas: Not at the moment, no.
[16:43] <ignas> i see
[16:43] <gmb> I'm not sure if there are plans to internationalize it or not.
[16:45] <ignas> is it possible to file new bugs using email?
[16:48] <Kmos> ignas: yes
[16:49] <gmb> ignas: See https://help.launchpad.net/BugTrackerEmailInterface for details.
[16:56] <Kmos> !email
[16:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:57] <TeeCee---> hello
[16:58] <TeeCee---> can somebody help me with a "launchpad-question"? :p
[17:00] <beuno> TeeCee---, go ahead and ask  :D
[17:01] <TeeCee---> hehe... I'm looking for a specific string in a specific package, that I want to translate... How do I find this string in this package? :p
[17:02] <TeeCee---> btw: the package i'm talking about is Nautilus... I've seen a translation-bug in Ubuntu 7.10 which I want to fix..:)
[17:03] <beuno> TeeCee---, not possible at the moment, that's open as bug #44
[17:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 44 in rosetta "Translations should be searchable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44 - Assigned to Данило Шеган (danilo)
[17:03] <TeeCee---> ubotu: Ok... that's exactly what I also found out..;) hehe
[17:04] <beuno> TeeCee---, he's a bot that searches for bug descriptions when someone mentions a number  :D
[17:04] <TeeCee---> hehe... He said so..;)
[17:35] <ignas> how do you generate a cookie.txt for launchpadbugs.connector.Connector ?
[17:36] <ignas> i want to be able to post bugs to launchpad through the UI of my application so users would not need to create new logins, or go through complicated forms ...
[17:55] <mpt> jelmer, does putting "THIS BUG IS NOT ABOUT Y, IT'S ABOUT X" in the description help?
[17:58] <jelmer>  /wii mpt
[17:58] <jelmer> whoops
[17:58] <mpt> I don't havea Wii :-)
[17:58] <jelmer> :-)
[17:59] <jelmer> mpt: the problem is, it's very hard for a user to decide whether the bug is related because the tracebacks look quite similar
[17:59] <mpt> fair enough
[18:00] <mpt> that's an interesting problem
[18:00] <mpt> So you'd rather handle duplicates entirely yourself, rather than encouraging reporters to do it
[18:01] <mpt> bbl, more testing to do
[18:02] <Rinchen> how is the user testing going mpt?
[18:37] <Zelut> Rinchen: ping
[18:37] <Rinchen> hi Zelut
[18:38] <Zelut> Rinchen: I was referred in here looking for someone that can help me get rights on an LP team.
[18:39] <Zelut> Rinchen: currenty activity/leadership seems dead (as well as the mailman list, but that has been taken care of), so we're looking for someone that can try to take the reigns.
[18:39] <Rinchen> Zelut, file a question against LP for the admins.  That's the correct course, stating your situation
[18:41] <Zelut> Rinchen: the admins like Ng, etc? the canonical admins?
[18:41] <Rinchen> LP admins
[18:41] <Zelut> where would I do that? (LP, outside of +filebug is a bit of a mystery to me still) :)
[18:44] <Rinchen> Zelut, LP answers against the LP project
[18:44] <Rinchen> Zelut, I'll get you a url as soon as LP wakes up :-)
[18:50] <Zelut> Rinchen: thank you
[19:10] <mpt> yay slashdotting
[19:12] <beuno> mpt, you survived digg but not slashdot?
[19:13] <mpt> Digg? What's that?
[19:13] <mpt> ;-)
[19:13] <beuno> hahah
[19:14] <Rinchen> actually, the fridge was digged this morning, and LP just a short bit ago
[19:14] <Rinchen> We are popular. :-)
[19:14] <mpt> So lots of people seeing my grinning face, eek
[19:16] <beuno> I though digg was much worse on dumping traffic, I don't follow half the links in slashdot since the summary/comments are usually enough, as oposed to digg where the link is the only useful thing...
[19:50] <yml> hello launchpaders,
[19:51] <yml> I would like to know if it is possible to close a bug in launchpad when I commit in bazaar?
[19:55] <mwhudson> yml: not yet
[19:57] <yml> ok, I was just asking
[19:57] <yml> :-)
[19:57] <yml> just in case
[19:58] <mwhudson> yml: it's somewhat on the radar
[20:00] <yml> mwhudson: great
[20:01] <Nafallo> hopefully will never be.
[20:01] <Nafallo> change the status to committed would be good though.
[20:01] <Nafallo> but not fix released until upload.
[20:06] <mwhudson> uh, right
[20:06] <mwhudson> that kind of detail is one of the reasons it hasn't been done yet :)
[20:06] <Nafallo> :-)
[20:11] <twogood> anyone else seeing timeout errors when reporting bugs right now? (i tried from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+filebug)
[20:11] <twogood> third attempt got to the next step...
[20:21] <Rinchen> hi twogood, are you still having timeouts?
[20:21] <twogood> Rinchen: seems to be working fine now, at least if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/158810 is as submitted as it looks like! :-) sorry for crying wolf...
[20:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 158810 in xserver-xgl "Evolution folder tree is not always redrawn when using fglrx and Xgl" [Undecided,New]
[20:22] <Rinchen> twogood, thanks. :-)
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #158811 in rosetta "rosetta-pofile-stats cron script lacks pythonpath import" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158811
[20:58] <LaserJock> is Hardy the default build release for PPAs now?
[21:06] <ubotu> New bug: #158834 in launchpad-bazaar "Code hosting base URL is incorrect in Staging Config" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158834
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #158841 in launchpad "In pagetests/README.txt indicate these rules only apply to sample data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158841
[21:19] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: It's whatever you put in the changelog...
[21:20] <LaserJock> they fixed that?
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #158848 in launchpad "clicking a tab on a search results page expected to show that facet of the search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158848
[21:21] <ubotu> New bug: #158847 in soyuz "changelog display fails to display author information in many cases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158847
[21:23] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: It always has been.
[21:23] <Fujitsu> And that bugs a dupe.
[21:23] <Fujitsu> *bug's
[21:24] <LaserJock> it used to be PPA uploaded to the current development, you had to specify the the upload path to override
[21:24] <Fujitsu> No, I was always able to upload to previous releases with just the right changelog.
[21:25] <LaserJock> hmm, odd
[21:25] <Fujitsu> The manual override is only for stuff like copying sources from Debian and the like, where the distribution is unstable. But that in itself is a flawed concept.
[21:26] <LaserJock> I guess the manual override was for if I didn't want to mess with changelog to build something
[21:44] <asabil> hi all
[21:47] <Fujitsu> Hi asabil.
[21:47] <asabil> I wanted to register a project under the name : "people"
[21:47] <asabil> but it got refused
[21:48] <Fujitsu> asabil: Right, `people' is a reserved name.
[21:48] <Fujitsu> You probably want to choose a different one.
[21:49] <asabil> why ?
[21:49] <asabil> reserved for whom ?
[21:49] <Fujitsu> Because /people is a list of people.
[21:49] <Fujitsu> And groups.
[21:51] <asabil> :/
[22:30] <ddaa> asabil: you can call your project something like "people-project", this only affects the URL of the project and the short name used in some forms. It does not affect how the project name is displayed in page content.
[22:31] <asabil> ok thanks ddaa :)
[22:31] <asabil> I will
[22:32] <ddaa> asabil: pick that name carefully though, once you have created it you need to ask an administrator if you want to change the name.
[23:55] <ubotu> New bug: #123440 in apport "apport bad gateway error" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123440


[01:22] <Faalentijn> I'm getting a soft lockup cpu lock up error
[01:23] <Faalentijn> Can anybody help me with that?
[01:27] <Faalentijn> Hello?
[04:33] <harish> hi
[10:13] <rotek> hello @ all
[10:51] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:22] <ap0c> how can I revert a kernel update through a live install?
[12:22] <ap0c> I tried updating 14.04.1 LTS's kernel from 3.13.x-generic to 3.16
[12:26] <tucnak> Hey there! I've got a strange issue with battery saving preferences here on Tech preview with latest plasma
[12:27] <soee> tucnak: this is more related to #plasma
[12:27] <tucnak> Basically, it keeps on blocking screen after a while, but what interesting is I have settings in Energy Saving that should preserve it from such behaviour
[12:27] <soee> try to ask there and maybe report some bugs
[12:27] <tucnak> soee: alright, thanks
[12:32] <hegemon8> hello
[12:33] <hegemon8> anyone is testing 15.04 ? I wonder how it performes so far, cause i'm formatting the  drive soon
[12:34] <soee> hegemon8: im running it 4-5 weeks now and all works fine for me. There might be sometimes problems with packages updates so you must be aware of it before upgrade
[12:35] <hegemon8> i used early versions before soee but plasma 5 is a bigger jump
[12:36] <hegemon8> i remember switching from kde 3 to kde4 so :) thats why i ask this time :)
[12:45] <LP> I want to speak with Lordie Vader
[15:22] <mparillo> I tried Startup Disk Creator on Kubuntu: Thumbdrive not bootable. I tried unetbootin on Win7 on the same Thumbdrive, and it was bootable. The MD5 checks OK. Any ideas?
[15:37] <BluesKaj_> mparillo, odd, Startup Disk Creator worked just fine here a few days ago...did you reformat the usb drive or just delete the pervious data on it before running creator?
[15:37] <BluesKaj_> because deleting the previous data is sufficient unless you have it partitioned
[15:57] <mparillo> BluesKaj_: Thank you. I used the Delete Data option on startup disk creator.
[15:57] <mparillo> It was originally created with FAT on Win7. Maybe that is the underlying issue?
[16:04] <BluesKaj_> mparillo, well FAT is best for usb sticks afaik
[16:05] <BluesKaj_> it is odd tho, can't think of why it wouldn't boot
[16:05] <BluesKaj_> anyway, errands to do...bbl
[18:12] <interima> Hi  i need some help. I have kUbuntu 14.04 and Nvidia 750Ti card. When i installed kubuntu (several mounth before) i add xorg-edgers/ppa and installed nvidia drivers. But now kubuntu switch to xorg mesa drivers. I don't know how it happened. I try to reinstall nvidia drivers (no effect).
[18:20] <BluesKaj_> interima, remove the xorg-edgers ppa. Their support is not very good, run lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' to see which driver is actually in use , then we can go from there.
[18:22] <interima> BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/9k8Cd9fa
[18:24] <interima> BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/n1NHmrhF
[18:26] <BluesKaj_> interima, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:26] <interima>  BluesKaj_: nvidia x settings show nothin (only not useful infromation) but before it shows all information
[18:26] <interima> BluesKaj_
[18:26] <interima> BluesKaj_: nothing
[18:26] <interima> BluesKaj_: in output
[18:28] <BluesKaj_> interima, the nvidia-331 driver is highest nvidia driver supported by 14.04,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[18:30] <interima> BluesKaj_: wow. i will check now
[18:36] <interima> BluesKaj_: no effect
[18:36] <BluesKaj_> explain no effect
[18:37] <interima> BluesKaj_: http://pastebin.com/r307FRTY
[18:37] <interima> BluesKaj_: seems like kernel still use gallium mesa drivers
[18:38] <interima> BluesKaj_: you said me delete edgers ppa (i don't delete yet) but how i can install nvidia drivers without this ppa
[18:39] <estacado> hi
[18:40] <estacado> i need some help anyone installed flashtool under kde?
[18:40] <BluesKaj_> interima,the 331 driver is in the regular repository
[18:40] <estacado> i have done the procedure once under ubuntu
[18:41] <estacado> is the location of udev rules the same?
[18:41] <interima> BluesKaj_: so i will delete edgers ppa and install 331 from default repo
[18:41] <BluesKaj_> yes
[18:41] <BluesKaj_> phone...bbl
[18:42] <Ryon_> is een uitvoerbaar programma. Uit veiligheidsoverwegingen zal het niet worden gestart. deze melding krijg ik wanneer ik een .exe bestand wil openen
[18:59] <interima> Can someone help me. i install nvidia-331 drivers but kernel still use xorg mesa drivers.
[19:11] <BluesKaj_> interima , where does it say vesa drivers are in use ?
[19:11] <BluesKaj_> or mesa rather
[19:16] <interima> BluesKaj_: glmark says that
[19:22] <BluesKaj_> interima, glmark is name of the app not the nvidia driver, my laptop syas the same as your glmark, but my gpu driver is definitely the i915 intel
[19:23] <interima> BluesKaj_: nvidia setting shows nothing
[19:24] <interima> BluesKaj_: lsmod  don't show nvidia driver
[19:25] <interima> BluesKaj_: lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA -A 12 don't show kernel driver in use
[19:26] <BluesKaj_> interima, have you rebooted since installing the 331 driver?
[19:27] <interima> BluesKaj_: yes
[19:34] <BluesKaj_> interima, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[19:39] <BluesKaj_> interima, and another command that will list media kernel modules is, dkms status
[19:45] <interima> BluesKaj_:lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' nothing
[19:45] <interima> BluesKaj_: but look at this  http://pastebin.com/TYqpf9HA
[19:49] <BluesKaj_> int then choose "0",  0 is the default if chosen
[19:52] <teisei> Hello! Anyone else experiencing a strange error message whenever you rename a file on your Desktop (Folder View)?
[19:53] <BluesKaj_> interima, then choose "0",  0 is the default if chosen
[19:54] <interima> BluesKaj_: if i choose 0 xserver crush
[19:56] <BluesKaj_> interima, do you need 14.04 LTS, I upgraded to 14.10 as soon as it was available since 14.04 was so unstable and buggy
[19:57] <BluesKaj_> probly get better support for your gtx 750ti gpu on 14.10
[19:58] <interima> BluesKaj_: i don't think that it can solve problem, cause everything work ok on 14.04. this happend several days ago
[19:59] <BluesKaj_> then you'll have to wait til xedgers ppa is brought up to date :/
[20:01] <BluesKaj_> unless you install the proprietary driver from the nvidia website, but it will break with the next kernel upgrade, whenever that is.
[20:01] <teisei> Nvidia already has drivers that support kernel 3.19 out-of-the-box?
[20:03] <BluesKaj_> interima, http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/73666/en-us
[20:04] <BluesKaj_> teisei, depends which kernel 14.04 uses nowadays
[20:05] <BluesKaj_> 14.10 here is 3.16 kernel, 15.04 uses the 3.18
[20:06] <teisei> Well Nvidia 346.22 works with kernel 3.18
[20:07] <teisei> On the other hand, kernel 3.18 appears to be quite unstable for me compared to 3.16
[20:07] <BluesKaj_> teisei, yes , but the gtx 750 ti gpu is particularly not well supported on 14.04
[20:08] <teisei> One of the high end ones? I'm using GTX 460M
[20:08] <teisei> Which is quite outdated already, I know
[20:08] <teisei> What kind of problems does the GTX 750 Ti have?
[20:09] <BluesKaj_> we had the same issue with that gpu yesterday with 14.04 ...it's not a stable OS in many ways in my experience
[20:09] <BluesKaj_> especially with hi-end graphics
[20:10] <BluesKaj_> even my lowly nvidia 8400gs had troubles on 14.04
[20:10] <teisei> What drivers did you use?
[20:11] <BluesKaj_> the 319 on 14.04 , but I promptly installed 14.10 when the dev release was available and didn't have a problem after that
[20:13] <teisei> Did you switch from 319 to something newer?
[20:13] <BluesKaj_> once the 331 driver was available, yes
[20:14] <BluesKaj_> the 319 was very stable for me
[20:14] <BluesKaj_> as is the 331 atm
[20:16] <teisei> Do you happen to be using xorg-edgers?
[20:20] <DarwinSurvivor> I've installed Kubuntu 14.10 (plasma 4) on a high-dpi screen (280 dpi), but it keeps getting render at 94 dpi.
[20:21] <DarwinSurvivor> My Google searching has resulting in many answers for Unity on 14.10 and Kde on non-ubuntu distros (where they edit files that don't exist in 14.10)
[20:22] <teisei> There is a way to ignore/override the DPI autodetection
[20:22] <DarwinSurvivor> I've done the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (had to create the file first): http://pastebin.com/qVimRZY4
[20:23] <DarwinSurvivor> xrandr shows the corrected dimensions in the eDPI setting, but no changes are visible
[20:23] <DarwinSurvivor> http://pastebin.com/6am64S73
[20:24] <DarwinSurvivor> I tried using Screen and Screen0 instead of Monitor, but that just causes lightdm to crash
[20:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Also, xdpyinfo reports "96x96 dots per inch", so somehow xdpyinfo and xrandr are getting their numbers from different places
[20:26] <DarwinSurvivor> I keep reading that plasma 5 has much better high-dpi support, how stable is it at this point?
[20:26] <DarwinSurvivor> note: this is for a family member's primary work machine, so stability is important
[20:28] <teisei> DarwinSurvivor, Plasma 5 appears to be quite stable for me
[20:28] <teisei> There are some oddities here and there but no crashes whatsoever
[20:29] <DarwinSurvivor> can plasma 5 and plasma 4 be run on the same machine (for testing)?
[20:29] <teisei> Plasma 5 seems to be much faster and smoother than any other desktop I've tried recently
[20:29] <Walex2_> DarwinSurvivor: it is complicated...
[20:30] <teisei> DarwinSurvivor, not in the same install of Kubuntu as far as I know
[20:30] <Walex2_> DarwinSurvivor: DPI calculation and setting have been screwed up by Keith Packard very comprehensively
[20:30] <DarwinSurvivor> can I just replace plasma 4 with plasma 5 without a full reinstall (and back again if needed)?
[20:30] <teisei> DarwinSurvivor, I think it's possible. They are just packages after all
[20:30] <BluesKaj_> teisei, I don't use xedgers ppas. poor longterm support]
[20:31] <Walex2_> DarwinSurvivor: I have a very draft blog post on DPI here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/drafts2.html#140228b
[20:31] <teisei> BluesKaj_, yeah the support is a problem, but I'm a sucker for new features and speed improvements (also willing to sacrifice stability for performance boost)
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> on 15.04 here with plsama 5/KF5 and patiently waiting for the 5.2 on jan22
[20:33] <teisei> BluesKaj_, are you running kernel 3.18?
[20:34] <BluesKaj_> teisei, yes
[20:35] <teisei> No problems with uptime? My system crashes every few hours in 3.18
[20:35] <BluesKaj_> but this laptop uses intel graphics ..my old pc/media-server with kubuntu 14.10 has the nvidia 8400gs card in it
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> no problems here with crashes , just the odd freeze which is easily fixed with alt-tab
[20:37] <teisei> Well the Nvidia drivers from xedgers may play a role in my case
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> yes, that's possible
[20:39] <BluesKaj_> tried plasma 5 on the media server pc , but it was much too buggy so I reverted it back to plasma 4
[20:39] <teisei> In my case the crashes were more like kernel panics
[20:39] <teisei> Alt-tab or any other keyboard wizardry didn't work in my case
[20:41] <teisei> BluesKaj_, this is a little offtopic but do you happen to have a menu key on your keyboard?
[20:43] <BluesKaj_> the windows key ?
[20:43] <DarwinSurvivor> Thanks guys, I'll read the DPI post and if that doesn't work give plasma 5 a shot
[20:43] <teisei> Menu key, the one that behaves like right mouse click
[20:43] <teisei> Wherever your focus is
[20:44] <teisei> So it basically opens a menu
[20:44] <BluesKaj_> no idea which key that is
[20:45] <teisei> http://www.laptopkey.com/uploads/1034_1388193920_ev-kb.jpg see the key between Alt Gr and Ctrl
[20:46] <teisei> In Xubuntu it was called "Menu" when used in keyboard shortcuts
[20:46] <teisei> But I was just wondering if it's hard coded in Kubuntu to open the context menu (or whatever they call it)
[20:47] <teisei> I find this default behaviour useless and I used to bind it to open a terminal
[20:47] <BluesKaj_> it seems to open different menus depending on which app is open on top
[20:47] <teisei> Yes indeed it follows your focus (keyboard focus that is)
[20:48] <teisei> I haven't been able to locate any conf file where I could change the behaviour of this key
[20:49] <teisei> Quite frustrating to be honest. I was hoping some genius would've come up with a solution
[20:50] <teisei> Nevertheless the key is called "Menu" but it cannot be used in key bindings because it's not recognized
[20:50] <teisei> Maybe I could cheat the system somehow and make it appear as some other key which my keyboard doesn't physically include
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> frankly, I'm more of a mouse usersince i was introduced to computers with application programs run on various analytical lab instruments which followed the msdos basics at the time, then windows 3.1 and '95//
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> waaay before <i discovered linux :)
[20:52] <teisei> I see, I see. Maybe I'm too much of a keyboard wizard
[20:53] <teisei> A gamer does not simply kick his habits
[20:54] <BluesKaj_> never been a gamer ..... too old I guess
[21:02] <teisei> Wow
[21:02] <teisei> I was actually able to change the behaviour of the Menu key to something else
[21:02] <teisei> But it's still a modifier (composer) key
[21:03] <teisei> I guess problems just resolve themselves when they are paid some attention to
[21:09] <bitemeoftn> can someone direct me to an easy way to add my exchange e-mail?
[21:10] <bitemeoftn> so far the only way i've been able to add it is via POP3 or IMAP which doesn't do my calendars or contacts
[21:19] <bitemeoftn> hosted exchange.....sorry i should be more specific
[21:19] <bitemeoftn> i.e. outlook.office365.com
[21:22] <bitemeoftn> may have it figured out
[21:26] <romaji> Ok, I'm trying to install 14.04, and I've hit a snag
[21:26] <lordievader> romaji: What have you run into?
[21:26] <romaji> it will not let me install it onto a RAID drive that isfree
[21:27] <lordievader> romaji: Using the standard GUI installer?
[21:27] <romaji> yea
[21:27] <romaji> doesn't let me pick the option of that dsk
[21:27] <lordievader> romaji: Hmm, you might have more luck with the text-based installer that is found on the server or mini iso.
[21:28] <lordievader> For basic things the gui installer is fine, but for the more complex thing I prefer the text installer.
[21:28] <romaji> uh... is the text based installer in the desktop iso?
[21:28] <romaji> becuase it was hell installing this iso onto the thubdrive
[21:28] <lordievader> Not for as far as I know.
[21:28] <lordievader> romaji: Unetbootin?
[21:29] <romaji> Is that what getting the thing onto the drive on windows called?
[21:30] <romaji> Could it be fixed by putting 14.10 0n there instead?
[21:30] <lordievader> romaji: Unetbootin is cross platform: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:30] <romaji> yep, that's the thing
[21:31] <romaji> some how, the checksum checked out, but the drive didn't run for 14.10
[21:33] <romaji> so, shoud I try 14.10 again, since that might have fixed the bug I have?
[21:34] <romaji> Um... anyone?
[21:35] <lordievader> romaji: What bug are you talking about?
[21:35] <romaji> The one  where it sees my raid drive, but refuses to install to it
[21:37] <romaji> or, recongnise that it's there in the GUI installer
[21:37] <romaji> I'd call that a bug
[21:37] <lordievader> romaji: I'd stick with what I said, try the mini iso.
[21:38] <romaji> ok, where is that?
[21:38] <lordievader> I'd agree, do file a bug report ;)
[21:38] <romaji> How am I going to know which dirve is the right one?
[21:38] <lordievader> romaji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:39] <bitemeoftn> thought i had it figured out, but still can't get my contacts or calendar to show
[21:39] <romaji> these are all ubuntu
[21:39] <bitemeoftn> trying to use this tutorial http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2014-07/msg00124.html
[21:39] <lordievader> romaji: Yes, you select the Kubuntu desktop during the install.
[21:39] <romaji> oh, they have both?
[21:41] <lordievader> romaji: The mini iso is very small as it downloads everything it needs from the internet.
[21:42] <romaji> ok, so where do i file the bug report'
[21:43] <romaji> lordievader: ok, I'm ready to do that
[21:43] <lordievader> romaji: In a terminal: ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[21:44] <romaji> Right, Not on linux, so I'll need to save that
[21:45] <lordievader> romaji: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[21:45] <andy__> holaaa
[21:45] <romaji> That's better
[21:47] <andy__> Tengo ubuntu 14.04 instalado en un disco de 80 Gb, un poco antiguo, y le instale Kde y ahora con gnome 3 y kde 14.4 ocupa 65 GB y el pc va lento..
[21:48] <lordievader> !spanish | andy__
[21:48] <andy__> es lo mismo ubuntu 14.04 con kde que KUBUNTU??
[21:49] <andy__> sorry...
[21:49] <andy__> thnks
[21:52] <romaji> lordievader:I'm trying to find out  how to get the installer to install Kubuntu
[21:54] <lordievader> romaji: Somewhere down the line it asks you what desktop environment you want.
[21:54] <romaji> Oh, in the normal install system?
[21:54] <lordievader> romaji: ?
[21:55] <romaji> like, doing the install the normal way'
[21:56] <lordievader> romaji: Are you talking about the mini iso or not?
[21:56] <romaji> lordievader:I'm in the mini iso
[21:56] <lordievader> romaji: Yes, there somewhere down the line it will ask you for the desktop environment.
[21:56] <romaji> good
[21:58] <romaji> Although, I haven't encountered it yet
[21:58] <romaji> and it''s loading aditional components
[21:59] <lordievader> romaji: It is one of the last things you install, which makes sense ;)
[22:00] <romaji> lordievader:Just asked me to activate raid
[22:00] <lordievader> romaji: And?
[22:00] <romaji> I've got to go now, I'll be back in 30 min
[22:01] <romaji> lordievader:It doesn't let me pick that disk
[22:02] <lordievader> romaji: Hmm, that is too bad. Also, I'm afraid I won't be here in 30 minutes.
[22:02] <romaji> I don't see why though
[22:02] <romaji> will someone else be?
[22:05] <lordievader> romaji: I cannot tell the future (yet) :P
[22:41] <juacom99> Hi, anyone else is having problems with shortcuts on Kubuntu 14.10 with plasma 5?
[22:52] <romaji> hello, all I am back, and still stuck
[23:04] <romaji> Should I file another bug report on another installer?
[23:56] <pseudo_black> .


[16:47] <TRS> Hey Guys,   About a year ago I setup some geoip filtering.  I use a free website to select which countries geoIP I wanted and also it let me select a format for the IP blocks as well, i.e Cisco network objects ,     then I could download a csv file for my selections.    Now a year later I can't find the website and can't rmember which one it was.   Can anyone help me to recall which
[16:47] <TRS> website has these features?
[17:11] <TRS> found it
[17:11] <TRS> https://www.ip2location.com/free/visitor-blocker
[18:29] <JanC> I'm not sure what that has to do with security...


[04:55] <pitti> Good morning
[04:57] <pitti> rbasak: it actually was removed recently: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-unit/+changelog
[04:58] <pitti> rbasak: so I suppose it needs to be rewritten to use the standard unittest instead?
[06:58] <dholbach> good morning
[08:48] <seb128> diwic, TheMuso, can we get the patch mentioned on https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1425447 uploaded to wily?
[08:49] <seb128> diwic, I appreciate it might not fix the issue but it might fix some problems and is better than nothing
[08:49] <TheMuso> seb128: Will take a look first thing tomorrow.
[08:49] <seb128> TheMuso, thanks
[09:08] <diwic> TheMuso, ok, thanks, let me know tomorrow if you have any problems with it
[09:09] <seb128> diwic, TheMuso, thanks
[09:22] <seb128> hum
[09:22] <seb128> gvfs doesn't migrate because of
[09:22] <seb128> autopkgtest for nemo 2.6.7-1: amd64: Pass, armhf: Regression
[09:22] <seb128> but http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/nemo/wily/armhf/ is green
[09:24] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:24] <seb128> (he retried it)
[09:26] <Laney> secret backchannels
[09:26] <Laney> he crossed my palm with silver
[09:26] <seb128> ssssush
[09:27] <pitti> seb128: argh, that again; fixing
[09:31] <seb128> pitti, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/7f52b91a3a4b716e9d8f59ad80d8681e8479870a seems like it started with your fix to bug #1476010
[09:31] <seb128> or maybe the fix didn't work
[09:32] <seb128> the errors just have ubuntu10 records
[09:32] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1504897 is a launchpad report
[09:34] <pitti> seb128: that's indeed weird -- we got LP reports for earlier versions (which triggered this bug report in the first place), how come that errors has no single instance of it?
[09:34] <seb128> unsure :-/
[09:35] <pitti> (yeah, was a rhetorical question)
[09:37] <rbasak> pitti: ah, I missed that. Thanks. I'll look into it
[09:38] <rbasak> .
[09:40] <seb128> pitti, right, I know, just e.u.c is suboptimal sometimes (like for those reports it also doesn't include useful logs)
[09:58] <doko> query pitti
[09:58] <doko> pitti, http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/s/s3ql/wily/ppc64el/
[09:58] <doko> triggered by python-setuptools, but not run?
[09:59] <doko> same for lava-dispatcher? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/lava-dispatcher/wily/amd64/
[10:08] <pitti> doko: ack, fixing
[10:09] <pitti> doko: python-pex got broken by either new wheel or by newer python-pex, so I figure I'll force-skiptest for setuptools
[10:09] <pitti> same for python3.5
[10:11] <doko> yes, I assume it's wheel. python-setuptools is bug fixing only. yeah for upper version dependencies
[10:27] <rbasak> pitti: uploaded fixed nut, hopefully. It's interesting to note that now that Python 2 isn't installed by default on Wily cloud images, my test run also broke for that. I had to explicitly add Python 2 as a test dependency.
[10:27] <rbasak> We're probably going to see many more of these.
[10:28] <pitti> rbasak: ah, thanks
[13:47] <dupondje_> stgraber: there? Just notice your https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1501588 bug
[13:47] <dupondje_> seems like I hit the same problem here
[13:47] <dupondje_> found anything more?
[13:47] <rbasak> slangasek: FYI, deleting python3.4 3.4.3-1ubuntu1~14.04.1 from trusty-updates caused some knock-on effects regressing Docker images in bug 1505164. It seems to me that uploading a higher reverted version might have avoided that, though I don't know that it wouldn't cause other issues from the rebuild.
[13:57] <seb128> tyhicks, hey, I noticed there was some discussions on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786566 ... do you know what's the status?
[14:22] <Odd_Bloke> doko: Regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1500768, Cory Benfield (lukasa on IRC) has just commented on the bug, and let me know that he'd be happy to help with any requests-y/urllib3-y problems that we hit in future.
[14:58] <ricotz> doko, hi, fyi https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+sourcepub/5491942/+listing-archive-extra
[15:08] <stgraber> dupondje_: no, I've been traveling and so couldn't do much more tests since I only have a wpa enterprise network at home
[15:10] <stgraber> dupondje_: I tried downgrading wpasupplicant and then a whole bunch of different kernels and even a different linux-firmware, without any luck, I'm sure I missed something but won't be able to try again for another couple of weeks :(
[16:21] <ben___> is it possible to pass arguments to a configure script when building a package via debuild?
[16:23] <cjwatson> ben___: configure arguments are controlled by debian/rules
[16:24] <cjwatson> ben___: may be implicit if it's using the short dh rules style, which is usual these days, but there's an example of adding to the default configure arguments in "man dh"
[16:24] <ben___> cjwatson: thanks
[16:27] <doko> ricotz, why do you ping *me*?
[16:58] <doko> tdaitx, do you still plan to update squid3 to the current subminor version release?
[17:03] <ricotz> doko, sorry, you already merged/updated it in the past so you are likely familiar with it a bit
[17:04] <doko> mehh, won't replace mvo as apt maintainer ...
[17:10] <Laney> but then you get to be a deity
[17:26] <tdaitx> doko, yes, the debdiff is @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1502178
[17:48] <barry> doko: thanks for the urllib3 fix in trusty
[18:42] <slangasek> rbasak: uploading a higher reverted version would also cause problems because the shlibs for libpython3.4 would be wrong; but we'll hopefully have a fix back in trusty-updates shortly
[19:32] <mvo> doko: wuut? apt? could you give me some context please?
[19:35] <mvo> doko: if anything needs fixing/merging in apt, please let me know tomorrow and I will have a look
[20:17] <tyhicks> seb128: I need to make the last set of changes that Raphael pointed out in message #35 and then we should be able to upload the fix to Ubuntu
[20:17] <tyhicks> seb128: me finding time to do that and give it the needed amount of testing will be difficult
[22:42] <seb128> tyhicks, ok, thanks for the reply, I guess it's not going to be fixed for 15.10, hopefully somebody can work on it for the lts though
[23:50] <tyhicks> seb128: I'm confident that I'll have it fixed for the LTS and SRU'ed accordingly


[09:15] <InHisName> Happy Christmas Morning, folks !
[10:31] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:39] <rmg51> Merry Bah Humbug day :P
[12:39] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all, and to all a merry Christmas!


[00:02] <PasNox1> only windows fails at using the external ip from inside the local network?
[00:02] <PasNox1> that was my lame attempt at it
[00:02] <PasNox1> well there are 138 people in the channel here, dunno if it's bridged or what
[00:02] <PasNox1> Is that why you joined, cableblox ?  No, actually a lot of such messages are broken up, mid sentence.
[00:02] <PasNox1> catbeard: no, i cant do it like that. im doing gpu passthrough (and usb passthrough for my keyboard and mouse)
[00:02] <PasNox1> and am the one who enjoying sniff pass
[01:07] <LiruCookies> darkmeson: i am responding to the suggestion of creating a directory and copying the binary
[01:07] <LiruCookies> !mint | Ruzzy
[01:07] <LiruCookies> dyl: so a URI reference is leaving of the file part (the scheme) when constructing a path
[01:24] <cthuluh1> measure what
[01:24] <cthuluh1> i am using.. well trying to use PID control to control Fan speed related to the pressure measured, but i am having a hard time handling the PID tuning, i was wondering is there is an other method then PID control that comes close to the same use
[01:24] <cthuluh1> a typename alias changes nothing regarding conversions.
[01:24] <cthuluh1> released a bunch of bugs
[01:24] <cthuluh1> i don't understand that logic
[01:45] <haltdef29> would it be on the default gateway device?
[01:45] <haltdef29> so maybe it's now fixed, and the config file was the problem.
[01:45] <haltdef29> !patience | qwebirc15664
[01:45] <tzafrir24> tawr: that's a possibility
[01:45] <haltdef29> only my data folder
[01:45] <tzafrir24> srji: of course, but competition is orthagonal to cooperation.   It is rated at a fairly low current (0.5A) but claims a higher rated torque than my other motors. What gives? Like, is it more efficient than my other motors, since it's getting more torque for a given current? Or is the torque rating kinda BS?
[01:45] <tzafrir24> namesillo
[01:54] <desaster0> It is not “simplification” under any stretch of the term. It is the FOL equivalent of minimizing the number of characters in a C or Perl program while preserving the externally visible behavior.
[01:54] <desaster0> kalven: yes, but a static constexpr template variable...
[01:54] <desaster0> https://bpaste.net/show/46f3eb2872ac
[01:54] <desaster0> reygoch: how complicated is the "nested" data?
[01:54] <desaster0> I think it's a valuable thing to be interested in the past
[02:16] <slunkad> mnoonan: it's a joke based on Back to the Future
[02:16] <slunkad> seems to be working now
[02:16] <slunkad> dont even waste time looking him up his shitty site dosn't need the traffic
[02:50] <acln19> so, "parents"
[02:50] <acln19> this used to work, did i do something bad:
[02:50] <acln19> I think I see what may be the case... I looked in kernel.spec, and under #kernel-headers there is a list of --with options... I wonder if now you have to include a --with headers in rpmbuild -bb ?
[02:50] <acln19> no need to stop
[02:50] <acln19> containered: I think the bug in this instance is that the widget stays where it's placed until the next restart, not that the restart resets its position
[03:19] <duckpupp-> zincy: how's ["val1", " val2"] instead
[03:19] <duckpupp-> AVC
[03:19] <duckpupp-> I could hardly believe it.
[03:19] <duckpupp-> which should be the 2nd anyways
[03:19] <duckpupp-> tho i did find it in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/7/include/stdarg.h
[03:19] <duckpupp-> *ptr1 is dereferencing the pointer to get an int, but the &var is taking the memory address of var, so you're trying to assign an int* to an int realbadhorse. The spacing for a declaration doesn't matter. int* p, int *p, and int * p are all equivalent.
[04:21] <Tomasu0> unyu: i miss remembered the name probably
[04:21] <Tomasu0> well billionaires are all old af
[04:21] <Tomasu0> is there any relation between vcpu and physical cpu? if yes then please let me know
[04:21] <Tomasu0> actually got both the gnu toolchain & qemu-kvm desquirreled on xubuntu 18.04.1 today. havent done that on a buntu since 15.10. the thing is solid
[05:18] <Shanmugamp717> tony: You are here in #fedora-unregistered because you are not registered or identified with freenode. See https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration or /msg nickserv help register for more information.
[05:18] <Shanmugamp717> that's cool.
[05:18] <Shanmugamp717> well it lacks empty, but nearly
[05:18] <Shanmugamp717> we explained this, in depth, the other day.
[05:18] <Shanmugamp717> if plugging in usbdev causes reboot, things are unlikely to work well in the long run
[05:18] <Shanmugamp717> Jan- just linked to "Dark-Eyed Cossack Girl" - Leonid Kharitonov & The Alexandrov Red Army Choir (1969) - YouTube - Leonid Kharitonov (Леонид Харитонов)
[06:11] <Guest35938> Was it acquired through the Ubuntu software store?
[06:11] <Guest35938> But regardless, you can represent 8 bits however you want
[06:12] <Guest35938> turn the camp on
[06:12] <Guest35938> why do I has 2 b intelligent
[06:12] <Guest35938> Thank you for the help
[06:14] <sztanpet26> oh, there is already an islamic party in NL kek
[06:14] <sztanpet26> Trolling rolling rolling trolling.
[06:14] <sztanpet26> the stupid way is to use git update-index --assume-unchanged
[06:14] <sztanpet26> didnt get the catch up
[06:14] <sztanpet26> 2018-09-20T04:24:36+00:00
[06:19] <test222___14> darkmeson>  I am using the gnome disk utility which is a gui.
[06:19] <test222___14> Well it would be if it wasn't so easy to intercept with a phone call to your provider, most of them will even mail you a fresh sim to any address even if it doesn't match your billing addr
[06:19] <test222___14> [qc](https://matrix.to/#/@qc:matrix.org):  @_oftc_NickServ:matrix.org  But IRC in here is just a courtesy for our holdout friends, where those joining this side see it at least as a "Bouncer".  But help for that is off-topic in here, where #irc:matrix.org is the place.
[06:19] <test222___14> stranglerfish, usually shorthand for "standard."
[06:36] <lemourin14> https://imgur.com/a/cwGVQQE
[06:36] <lemourin14> shiranaihito: doas pfctl -s states : that will show you what are the states
[06:36] <lemourin14> blurgh
[06:36] <lemourin14> _ikke_: he does. * text eol=lf and also had core.autocrlf=input
[08:09] <LnL23> 70-200 2.8 ?
[08:09] <LnL23> I don't understand what you said
[08:09] <LnL23> freenode seems to have turned off channel listing maybe
[08:09] <LnL23> You usually want to use a different job for every unique piece of software.
[08:12] <kanarip4> not sure why it makes sense to be rude to someone that is legit treying to understand
[08:12] <kanarip4> since there are likely vastly many numbers above 1023 (and for that matter, below 0) that are representable by int, it is highly likely that the uninitialized values are in that set
[08:12] <kanarip4> nOooOOooOOOooOOoooOOoooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooO
[08:12] <kanarip4> i see. and from what rio was saying it would be all multiples of some arbitrary "basis" vector
[08:12] <kanarip4> oh i have had buyers tell me that they had to pay more rubles or whatever
[08:12] <kanarip4> flip . (flip .)) .) . flip flip c . ((flip . (flip .)) .) . flip flip c . ((flip . (flip .)) .) . flip flip c . ((flip . (flip .)) .) . flip flip c . ((flip . (flip .)) .) . flip flip e . ((flip . (
[08:14] <mrtux21> and df -h
[08:14] <mrtux21> proof: let x in X s.t. x<sup(S) and suppose for every s in S, x NOT <s, i.e. s<=x. Then x is an upper bound for S but x<sup(S), contradiction.
[08:14] <mrtux21> fujisan make one for qwant
[08:34] <E713> ...vs a mapping to insert tabs?
[08:34] <E713> so does this involve a type stricture =>   ?
[08:34] <E713> 9900 is like 8C/16T   that's going to be all sorts of limited
[08:34] <E713> or i think i get.   "composing actions...', it's just i was adding 'squitr a value through' thinking of OOP value with a 'system' pointer
[08:34] <E713> i cant seem to login on their web interface altough ive been mining for a few hours
[08:53] <Chromaryu13> are you in australia?
[08:53] <Chromaryu13> :t foldl sad 0 . map fromEnum where sad a i = a*2 + i
[08:53] <Chromaryu13> Heck, define "tree-wide modification awareness" for that matter
[09:03] <prime_0> telegram has swipe to reply, that's the best imo: fast, but you won't do it accidentally
[09:03] <prime_0> should be enoght
[09:03] <prime_0> i7, 16GB, 1TB
[09:03] <prime_0> today I saw mr. rat again
[09:03] <prime_0> how does a CoC make it any less of being about the code than it already is?
[09:04] <prime_0> got no signaturesw
[09:08] <andydrew_> and it gets stuck there
[09:08] <andydrew_> aalm: I am on 6.3
[09:08] <andydrew_> oh i need to somehow make it say one to one
[09:22] <stalactit14> rcombs, could disabling local media assets be related? like by forcing unnecessary queries
[09:22] <stalactit14> ubuntu update is telling me to recheck my internet but obviously it works because here I am but the error message is actually appstream exitting early/crashing
[09:22] <stalactit14> i typo'd in the first
[09:24] <iamayam7> anyone know how I would go about getting an invite?
[09:24] <iamayam7> * could be used if you turn on the dotglob shell option, otherwise it omits the "hidden" filenames.
[09:25] <iamayam7> what did you sell it for?
[09:25] <iamayam7> I don't seem to have an intuition for comonads either
[09:25] <iamayam7> anyone know if it's possible to optimise the sum of squares?
[09:25] <iamayam7> needs to ensure it's the same profile for example... wouldn't want to -vcodec copy h264-baseline stuff and transcode a GOP into h264-high at the end :P
[09:39] <AJaeger0> Becomes rough in large networks though.
[09:39] <AJaeger0> grawity: riight..
[09:39] <AJaeger0> because it's actually an android app?
[09:39] <AJaeger0> ok, just wanna make sure i understand it all so i can do it myself in the future
[10:19] <nurupo10> magic sys rq?
[10:19] <nurupo10> dataN: yeah that's what I'm thinking
[10:19] <nurupo10> it will not emulate a serial port in the way one thinks, only "here comes a bag of bytes, all in a lump"
[10:50] <donofrio0> any recommendations for an appropriate WAP though? :D
[10:50] <donofrio0> then two identical classes which differ only by permutation of its parameters could be written as one declaration.
[10:50] <donofrio0> Fix in progress.
[10:50] <donofrio0> > foo=x; () { local foo=y; : ${(P)1::=z} } foo; echo $foo
[10:50] <donofrio0> also, /help alias
[11:13] <ZirconiumX11> arvut: glencoco was last seen 10 days, 21 hours, 41 minutes and 15 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)
[11:13] <ZirconiumX11> a_0
[11:13] <ZirconiumX11> the default is to recover all available WAL files, stopping only when it runs out
[11:13] <ZirconiumX11> ne2k: yeah.  I'm still hunting down the ovpn config file documentation, since their "documentation" is all based on their shitty GUI
[11:13] <ZirconiumX11> yeah I'm gonna stick with nnoremap <space> :
[11:13] <ZirconiumX11> C-Net I only looked at superficially, because it started to get really computer-networky, so it wasn't something you could fully read about in two or three hours.
[11:26] <dprime114> I mean, intro to the topology of Rⁿ.
[11:26] <dprime114> while threads started since app startup is a counter
[11:26] <dprime114> to get access again
[11:26] <dprime114> cuz 100 C
[11:31] <tse25> Six courses per semester and reading a math book seriously is just too insane a workload.
[11:31] <tse25> but if you're not around, it's no use
[11:31] <tse25> JohnMH: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fedora+torrent
[11:31] <tse25> ... what Unit193 says in particular.
[11:31] <tse25> that looked like the best steak I've ever seen tbh
[11:34] <asm891> What do you mean by “applied trigonometry” here
[11:34] <asm891> vimplication: I think kind in this case is the way vim got the list?
[11:34] <asm891> For now it seems I can only manipulate everything on top of ip layer which is some fucking joke and windows mentality
[11:34] <asm891> Pfft.  Linus has some room to tone it down, if for no other reason than "reporters" blow it entirely out of proportion any time he gives someone a mean look
 imho, pchanges just needs to be removed, and then when it is to be added, it has to be added to all state modules at once
[11:53] <voker5718> ok... a freenode server died
[11:53] <voker5718> !s John's Special Day
[11:53] <voker5718> yes here http://termbin.com/88yk
[11:53] <voker5718> probably if 1 mm motion means "no motion" then you have to compute framrate such that 1mm is moved for each frame
[11:53] <voker5718> I'm just tring to run the hspec example lol
[14:40] <mrtekn017> oh ha, although i cant watch amazon prime movies
[14:40] <mrtekn017> if you have random people tampering with your machine you have a bigger issue.
[14:40] <mrtekn017> Corvus`: you're a decent person most of the time, but you just ruin the channel when you behave like this
[14:40] <mrtekn017> hey i got that pci raid card anyway lol
[15:00] <AndrewMC25> As someone numerate, I've always disliked (oddp) or odd(), the maths flows more easily than the words.
[15:00] <AndrewMC25> I talked to a rep in sales and told them I wanted to sign up for service.  I was told they didn't have service in my city yet.
[15:32] <yothsoggoth> Anyone  is please be patient
[15:32] <yothsoggoth> Monero price in USD = $99.21
[15:32] <yothsoggoth> but you need to google "hv icsp arduino'
[15:33] <yothsoggoth> or how does it work
[15:33] <yothsoggoth> tomeaton17: what do you mean
[15:36] <Neico21> kurahaupo: Yours said this: "install: invalid option -- 'u'"
[15:36] <Neico21> look again
[15:36] <Neico21> bomb-on only macaronis for me
[15:36] <Neico21> my terminal really doesn't like this, thanks though
[15:36] <Neico21> tomorrow i will try it out when i go to Redbank
[15:36] <Neico21> How to turn plane around?
[17:13] <marcusramberg> konrados: yes
[17:13] <marcusramberg> or I just want to increment one
[17:13] <marcusramberg> its not about that
[17:13] <marcusramberg> stephenfin: give me some details in query, mostly how you represent patchwork and a short tl;dr of what it is, then I'll give you next steps  (it's rather simple, in the end it's you sending an e-mail, us doing a verification, some minor paperwork and done)
[17:13] <marcusramberg> fvr: You could try  data Foo = forall x. Show x => Foo (x, x -> x)
[17:39] <Mantorok> *proof of technical superiority
[17:39] <Mantorok> do I need to add " to &comments?
[17:39] <Mantorok> you could try not to be
[17:39] <Mantorok> that means, use the interface, even if the ip changes
[17:39] <Mantorok> yah, but you can just torrent sequentially and have the same effect
[17:39] <Mantorok> web development with assembly > java ee > JS > \x's trap jewellery > PHP
[17:50] <reidmv> djph, ts-100
[17:50] <reidmv> like the other one, https://www.moleculardevices.com/sites/default/files/images/page/what-is-action-potential.jpg
[17:50] <reidmv> substinance* rather. :p
[17:50] <reidmv> (which makes you easily trackable from exit node to exit node)
[19:20] <Kingsy15> and if they listened and used dehydrated, they'd be up and running long time ago.    *shrug*
[19:20] <Kingsy15> thats obviously the classic animal example.. but imagine using an interface to swap the backend of a set data structure between an tree and an array
[19:20] <Kingsy15> darkxploit.. one mo
[21:41] <pepesza27> Sometimes it hibernates just fine
[21:41] <pepesza27> The problem is not Gajim-specific, it happens in every not-terminal-app in KDE
[21:41] <pepesza27> If it's being edited by humans to make it pretty, then any ol' text editor could be adding tabs as well as spaces, so that advice is sound.
[21:41] <pepesza27> It's programmable.
[21:41] <pepesza27> yes, i agree deshipu.
[22:24] <bittyx20> a couple of minutes after stating that any opened link in chrome wouldn't respect the default browser
[22:24] <bittyx20> hrnz: fun with balls ?
[22:24] <bittyx20> Yup at 100% now :(
[22:24] <bittyx20> virtualisation.virtualbox.host.enable
[23:15] <tortal11> I put the new URLs in the filter with the / intact, thus it never matched.
[23:15] <tortal11> i remember it was quite popular to use spamhaus with your postfix/dovecot setups some years ago, is that still so?
[23:15] <tortal11> Ubuntu intel i5 m460 Supporting?
[23:15] <tortal11> ski: Yeah, that's what I"ve done for now, and I'll probably stick with it.
[23:24] <Guest10884> z1haze: state of your branch at that date, at midnight I would assume (since a time wasn't specified)
[23:24] <Guest10884> stock vim + ghci is as good as an IDE
[23:24] <Guest10884> thanks c|oneman
[23:31] <vertigo> sine0: and yes, that is the correct syntax.
[23:31] <vertigo>      • No instance for (Fractional Int) arising from a use of ‘/’
[23:31] <vertigo> int-e, I've cleared the IRC logs
[23:31] <vertigo> actually 470k and 47k