[01:09] <pleia2> Unit193: re: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000429.html the "No behind-the-scenes news in the public like details on how development is taking place." is an interesting comment
[01:10] <pleia2> I've had mixed feelings about whether we should be posting links to our meeting minutes and stuff
[01:10] <pleia2> but I think their point is that our site should be a polished product type thing for people, not full of confusing devel stuff
[01:11] <pleia2> so I'll do a call for help with marketing stuff on my blog and on our -devel mailing list, finished marketing products can go as a blog post on xubuntu.org :)
[01:12] <Unit193> Well, that's just what one person thinks, but a summery of what the outcome is could be interesting.  I was just making a simple note of someone elses comment on the site.
[01:13]  * pleia2 nods
[01:13] <pleia2> feedback is good :)
[01:13] <Unit193> Oh, I'm on devel.
[01:44] <nanotube> well, devel stuff can be there, just be a little more buried. (like, under the 'developers' link somewhere)
[01:45] <nanotube> i think he just means there's no stuff like "we've just decided to change keyboard shortcuts in the next release" right on the front page.
[08:31] <ochosi> micahg: hey, i was recently approached by the gmb dev because there are a few annoying bugs in the version in oneiric (already fixed in git) and he wanted to ask whether it would be possible to backport the fixes – people keep asking about them in the forum etc.
[08:42] <micahg> ochosi: if they're cherry picked, sure
[08:42] <micahg> we would also need test cases
[10:17] <knome> madnick, !!!!!!
[10:34] <madnick> knome: i did upload it
[10:34] <madnick> didnt you see my message?
[10:36] <knome> madnick, actually no :)
[10:36] <knome> in that case...
[10:36] <knome> mr_pouit, !!!!!!
[10:36] <madnick> :)
[10:37] <madnick> brb, gonna make food
[10:37] <knome> bon appetit
[11:33] <mr_pouit> is it lp:~dr-madnick/+junk/ldm-zoo branch?
[11:34] <mr_pouit> (no license, no build system, and many hardcoded things in there. And I'm supposed to test and upload it today...)
[11:34] <knome> mr_pouit, we can fix bugs after FF, right?
[11:35] <knome> madnick, can you elaborate with mr_pouit and create a build system and work with him on the issue generally?
[15:06] <mr_pouit> madnick: knome: http://lionel.lefolgoc.net/misc/zoo-greeter-0.0.1.tar.gz <<< here's your branch with a quick'n'dirty autotoolization done (you need to fill in author(s), copyright holder(s), the correct license, add a license header for each vala file, etc...)
[15:06] <knome> mr_pouit, thanks A LOT :)
[15:07] <mr_pouit> still many things to fix though :(
[15:07] <knome> yeah.
[15:07] <knome> let's try to get it uploaded for now and then start fixing things.
[15:07] <mr_pouit> it won't even build here:
[15:07] <knome> could that even go in xubuntu-default-settings for now?
[15:07] <mr_pouit> virtualkeyboard.vala:42.26-42.27: error: Argument 1: Cannot convert from `int' to `Gdk.NativeWindow' keyboard_socket.add_id(id);
[15:07] <mr_pouit> or xubuntu-artwork, yeah
[15:07] <knome> i know that's not the cleanest approach, but i know that's been done before
[15:07] <knome> mm-hmm
[15:08] <mr_pouit> someone who knows vala need to look at it too
[15:08] <knome> so, let me just double-check: even if it's uploaded we don't need to use it, if it doesn't seem to work?
[15:08] <mr_pouit> well, it'd be better if it could be in its own package (xubuntu-artwork/xubuntu-default-settings only ship data files, not programs)
[15:09] <mr_pouit> I think it's best to fix it before the upload (it should be okay for an exception)
[15:09] <knome> yes, of course
[15:09] <knome> okay
[15:10] <mr_pouit> anyway, bbl
[15:10] <knome> okay, see you, and thanks
[15:10] <madnick> guys, i cannot begin to tell you how sorry i am, but i have another business meeting over dinner, then i need to go on the bus back to my town
[15:10] <knome> well, if we're going to have an exception anyway, it's not a matter of hours
[15:11] <madnick> basically, not even all the source is used to build it, and there was a mod in libwebkit's vala "header"
[15:11] <madnick> i am truly sorry about this
[15:11] <knome> np. just let's do everything we can to fix it
[15:11] <madnick> i have the a build file, well not a real one, but a script, in virtualbox
[15:12] <madnick> which i can use the compile line to automate it etc
[15:12] <knome> if i knew about build files and such, i'd use my own time to try to fix it
[15:12] <knome> but really, just don't panic. go to your meeting, take your time and get back to it when you can
[15:13] <knome> i'd like to see it in a near-finished state in a week from now, or we might have to think about using the old lightdm theme with just wallpaper updated
[15:14] <madnick> Yes, to be honest, I am not sure this greeter is worthy, I have not had nearly enough time to be happy about the result
[15:14] <knome> (week because then we still have time before the UI freeze without exceptions if we don't decide to use the new greeter
[15:14] <knome> right, i see
[15:14] <madnick> But Ill code and build as much as I can
[15:15] <madnick> and if you dont wanna use it
[15:15] <madnick> Then it is fine either way
[15:15] <knome> okay, we'll be more wise next week
[15:15] <knome> and we can use it in P+1 anyway
[15:15] <knome> i don't want to have big problems on boot with an LTS...
[15:15] <madnick> Indeed, nobody wants that
[15:16]  * knome mentally prepares or using the old lightdm theme
[15:16] <Unit193> But at the same time, you want it to look nice as that means a lot for first impression.
[15:17] <knome> of course.
[15:17] <madnick> If I'd known sooner how this business thing would turn out, I would've taken on a lot less, perhaps just modified the current greeter to look better
[15:17] <knome> but looks still can't jeopardize stability :)
[15:17] <Unit193> I'd guess you can't quite upload it as an option later for Pangolin?
[15:17] <knome> SRU's are possible
[15:17] <knome> but that's the smallest concern now
[15:18] <Unit193> Well yeah.
[15:18] <ochosi> will there be enough time to improve the looks of the current greeter?
[15:18] <madnick> I got to go now
[15:18] <ochosi> i mean it really looks like logging into windows-nt
[15:18] <knome> imo that's not TOO bad...
[15:18] <ochosi> see ya later madnick ;)
[15:18] <knome> it's a bit plain and somewhat ugly, but it works
[15:19] <ochosi> sure, but it could be easy to improve at least a bit
[15:19] <madnick> I will be coding as much as I can, Ill get back to you when I get home
[15:19] <madnick> -->
[15:19] <knome> okay.
[15:19] <knome> thanks
[15:19] <knome> ochosi, but yeah, just trying to improve the current look would work as well.
[15:19] <knome> ochosi, just feels a bit lukewarm, doesn't it?
[15:19] <ochosi> i mean just to be sure not to have the same ugly greeter again
[15:19] <ochosi> sure
[15:20] <ochosi> it's nothing much
[15:20] <knome> i don't know we can do about it
[15:20] <ochosi> but probably better than nothing
[15:20] <knome> maybe. that'd mean we should drop working on the new greeter NOW
[15:21] <ochosi> not sure, i dunno how hard it would be to slightly tweak the current greeter
[15:21] <ochosi> but really, i'd wait for whenever madnick is back and have a more clearheaded discussion then
[15:49] <charlie-tca> all images are working for Xubuntu Precise
[15:50] <charlie-tca> all images except desktop i386 are oversize
[15:50] <knome> hey charlie-tca :)
[15:50] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:50] <Unit193> Good to see you again, started my sync maybe 20 ago.
[15:50] <knome> charlie-tca, you might have read about our plan to include "application sets" into xubuntu
[15:50] <charlie-tca> any help testing Ubuntu/Kubuntu 10.04.4 would be appreciated today. Tests are at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/207/builds
[15:51] <charlie-tca> knome: I don't what application sets are, even
[15:51] <knome> charlie-tca, okay, so basically, we're offering three choices:
[15:51] <knome> charlie-tca, xubuntu / xfce only / accessibility
[15:51] <charlie-tca> Unit193: if you can test our images today, I will work on 10.04.4 for Kubuntu
[15:51] <charlie-tca> as sessions?
[15:51] <Unit193> charlie-tca: Busy day, but I hope to.
[15:52] <knome> charlie-tca, if you choose accessibility, you will get all the accessibility applications installed, as well as some tweaks, like bigger terminal font
[15:52] <knome> charlie-tca, no, as intallation alternatives
[15:52] <knome> charlie-tca, with the ubiquity plugin the edubuntu team put together
[15:52] <charlie-tca> I don't know anything about that, either
[15:53] <knome> charlie-tca, with "xfce only" you naturally get only xfce installed on top of ubuntu
[15:53] <knome> charlie-tca, well anyway, we might need your help :)
[15:53] <charlie-tca> will there be a new menu when installing, then? It gives these choices?
[15:53] <knome> yes
[15:53] <knome> a simple dialog with these three alternatives
[15:53] <charlie-tca> and will that be on all images, or desktop only?
[15:54] <knome> that will be on desktop only, afaik
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I suppose the first thing would be to figure out how to get orca to work in precise Xubuntu, then
[15:55] <knome> does that mean that some people might need to use alternative to install xubuntu, because the desktop image is inaccessible in the first place?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> no, it means if orca doesn't work, you don't have accessiblity working at all
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Orca is a screen reader, which is required for blind users
[15:56] <knome> right, but that would be the case even without the application sets?
[15:57] <charlie-tca> no, because we don't have it working yet
[15:57] <knome> okay. for precise, i don't know if we can *improve* the accessibility much anyway, but we'd like to group the accessibility features to one set, if possible
[15:57] <charlie-tca> blind users normally have to use Ubuntu with unity 2d or gnome to get orca to work
[15:57] <knome> there is some accessibility tools that are installed by default, isn't there?
[15:58] <charlie-tca> yes, mouse tweaks, giving the ability to use keys in place of mouse, and set up mouse to work easier with sticky keys and different speeds. Also, Onboard keyboard
[15:58] <knome> yeah, those would be grouped to the accessibility installation group
[15:59] <knome> along with some theming tweaks, like bigger terminal font, as i said :)
[15:59] <charlie-tca> Better make that a bigger default font. Your current fonts are way too small for visually impaired users to see
[16:00] <knome> that's some good feedback too, and yes, will drive for that
[16:00] <charlie-tca> Also, probably want to look at both high-contrast and high-contrast inverse themes
[16:00] <knome> yes those too
[16:00] <ochosi> btw, as far as i know xfce-upstream supports orca in the latest version
[16:00] <knome> there's no high-contrast gtk3 theme though :(
[16:00] <ochosi> we won't have that in precise most likely
[16:01] <knome> yeah, but we are ready to have that in Q
[16:01] <charlie-tca> upstream plans on 4.10 supporting orca. But without that, there is no point in having an accessibility install
[16:02] <knome> i have to disagree. bigger fonts and such are an accessibility improvement
[16:02] <knome> of course, that's not complete accessibility and it won't help all the users that need accessibility, but it's a step forward
[16:03] <knome> as i said, i don't think we generally can improve accessibility much in precise, but we can start preparing stuff for when we can
[16:04] <knome> the other motivation to have these application sets is to have pure xfce on top of ubuntu
[16:05] <Unit193> That'll be fun to support....
[16:05] <knome> anyway, if you knew the package names for those accessibility apps you mentioned (mouse tweaks, onboard) from the heart, those would help a lot
[16:06] <knome> Unit193, what is?
[16:06] <knome> s/is/will/
[16:07] <Unit193> Different packagesets.
[16:07] <knome> how?
[16:07] <knome> we're already installing everything what will be in those sets
[16:07] <Unit193> I'm going with Xfce on top Ubuntu is going to be different.
[16:08] <knome> of course it's going to be different
[16:09] <knome> but it's going to be exactly like ubuntu minimal + xfce
[16:10] <knome> we should add a note in the description to only install "xfce only" if one exactly knew what they were doing
[16:10] <knome> and it's not something you can't fix later
[16:10] <knome> just install xubuntu-desktop
[16:12] <knome> altogether, i just don't understand why you haven't raised this up earlier for discussion, if you think it's too hard to support
[16:12] <Unit193> [11:05:42] < Unit193> That'll be fun to support....
[16:12] <Unit193> Point out where I said "too hard", please.
[16:13] <knome> very well, maybe i misjudged the tone
[16:13] <knome> but i'd be really happy if things like this were brought up by others before
[16:13] <ochosi> +1
[16:13] <knome> even if we just decided it's okay to proceed as we thought
[16:14] <Unit193> Na, just was making a side note, not even bringing it up to talk about.
[16:14] <knome> well you did
[16:14] <Unit193> I blame ochosi for that part.
[16:15] <knome> and i think that was valuable, though it would have been more valuable in a meeting a month or two before
[16:15] <ochosi> Unit193: :p
[16:15]  * knome doesn't blame people
[16:16] <Unit193> I don't think it's valuable, it doesn't (and wouldn't) change things, just something that I'll have to peek into.
[16:19] <charlie-tca> hm, lag is 684 seconds. May not be having a good day on IRC...
[16:36] <charlie-tca> last thing I got here was
[16:36] <charlie-tca> 09:03:52       knome | of course, that's not complete accessibility and it won't help all the users that need accessibility, but it's a step
[16:36] <charlie-tca>                      | forward
[16:37] <charlie-tca> now going to switch to xchat, it is easier to restart the server in it than weechat
[16:38] <knome> mmh
[16:39] <Unit193> http://pastebin.com/sXj7yyPx
[16:39] <knome> well he's gone :P
[16:40] <Unit193> I know.
[16:40] <knome> i don't always know, because i sometimes have joins/parts on ignore
[16:41] <Unit193> I never do.
[16:42] <knome> easier like that in eg. #ubuntu-meeting
[16:43] <Unit193> I don't idle there, and I'm a bit obsessive about my logs.
[16:44] <Unit193> http://bugs.irssi.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=809 I'd use it if that was fixed.
[16:45] <knome> ha.
[16:50] <Unit193> http://pastebin.com/sXj7yyPx and some from when you switched to xchat
[16:51] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:54] <charlie-tca> knome: I don't know any of the app names by memory. I will have to research them to find them
[16:55] <charlie-tca> Sometimes, email to the mailing lists work better than irc discussions to get word out
[17:00] <knome> charlie-tca, sure.
[17:01] <knome> we just happened to cover that issue minutes before with ochosi
[17:04] <charlie-tca> Sorry, not a good day on freenode here, apparently
[17:05] <knome> yeah, np.
[17:05] <knome> and don't worry about the package names, we will find out
[17:05] <charlie-tca> Okay
[17:05] <knome> so it's onboard and mouse tweaks? or is there something else too
[17:06] <charlie-tca> I have to poke around a clean install and let you know
[17:06] <knome> okay, thanks if you can
[17:06] <charlie-tca> I will try to do that this week
[17:07] <knome> yeah, that should work, since we need a FFe anyway
[17:07] <jandrusk> So XChat allows you to do what you want with the IGNORE directive?
[17:07] <charlie-tca> Well, to be honest, without a screen reader that is working, an accessible install is not usable
[17:08] <charlie-tca> jandrusk: no idea. Never use IGNORE here
[17:08] <knome> charlie-tca, yeah i understand that. i just want to take the initial step
[17:08] <jandrusk> I think Unit193 was stating that earlier.
[17:09] <Unit193> jandrusk: That was a random one with knome, but I don't know if it does.
[17:09] <jandrusk> Unit193: Thanks.
[17:10] <jandrusk> Been using irssi for several months and love it.
[17:10] <Unit193> Sure is.
[17:11] <jandrusk> Love the Perl integration.
[17:16] <knome> Unit193, well clearly, those should be possible to fix with perl scripts
[17:17] <Unit193> knome: Do I look like I know perl? (and it'd have to be light, already having a few small issues with resources.)
[17:17] <knome> no, i don't know what you look like
[17:22] <jandrusk> Maybe I'll will look at building a script.
[17:51] <Unit193> charlie-tca: Do you care what type I do?
[17:52] <charlie-tca> I follow my schedule at http://2tu.us/48mf
[17:52] <charlie-tca> but any tests are welcome!
[17:54] <Unit193> I am doing at least one alt and one desktop. First desktop can't be split, that was how I did it last time. :P
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Then do a whole disk install. It at least shows we did a test and it worked or failed.
[17:56] <charlie-tca> I think we care more about whether or not they work then the type of partitioning used
[17:57] <Unit193> Manual, but yep, just asking if you wanted something before I picked.
[17:57] <charlie-tca> Thank you for asking.
[18:01] <Unit193> Bah, Ubiquity crashed on right click in partition still...
[18:02] <charlie-tca> really?
[18:02] <charlie-tca> I haven't tried that lately
[18:02] <Unit193> Did it to me last time.
[18:36] <Unit193> It still works as long as you do not right click.
[21:35] <micahg> mr_pouit: BTW, Ubuntu desktop is 20MB more oversized than us, so I figured to let them sort it out first, then we can sort it out, BTW, also, I'm planning on updating gimp tonight to 2.6.12
[21:35] <micahg> mr_pouit: and thanks for the meta upload
[21:36] <charlie-tca> It should settle down after feature freeze, when they quit adding so much to Ubuntu
[21:36] <micahg> well, we're in a tougher spot, they're about to drop webkit-gtk2 which we can't do
[21:36] <charlie-tca> micahg: might be between beta1 and 2 that we get things straightened out on size again
[21:36] <micahg> yeah, most likely
[21:37] <charlie-tca> We have to look at what they added for us that we don't need. Maybe nautilus, evolution, some other crap
[21:37] <charlie-tca> Then we look at languages
[21:37] <micahg> hmm, we shouldn't have any of that in our images (if we do, there are bugs in the dependency chains which we can fix now)
[21:38] <charlie-tca> I know we shouldn't, but that don't mean we haven't
[21:38] <charlie-tca> Same with languages, did they add a bunch to us again?
[21:40] <micahg> they shouldn't be adding languages for us, those are in our specific seeds, not the platform ones AFAIK
[21:41] <micahg> dropping tango should give us another MB or 2
[21:41] <charlie-tca> but a lot of times, when they add the language packs to Ubuntu, they seem to give them to us also
[21:42] <charlie-tca> I'm just going by past things that made the images grow
[21:43] <micahg> ah, ok
[21:43] <micahg> well, we'll  have see, I think we still 5-6 languages, so we have some leeway, but we can probably get by pruning other stuff
[21:45] <charlie-tca> yup. Wasn't ready to worry about it yet
[21:46] <micahg> tonight I just want to get the new gimp and aptitude in
[21:46] <charlie-tca> Good idea
[21:54] <knome> micahg, there was some discussion about things we could drop in #shimmer before, so you might want to talk with mr_pouit about that if you need a hand with that :)
[21:58] <micahg> nah, not worrying about dropping ATM, just pushing everything in before FF :)
[21:59] <knome> yup, but if there is a need
[21:59] <knome> we might think dropping some of those anyway for Q :)
[21:59] <knome> even if languages are kind of a "nice plus", i'm not really comfortable dropping them again and again
[22:33] <knome> pleia2, ohai
[22:34] <knome> pleia2, noticed our newest tweets? :)
[22:37] <pleia2> knome: yeah! :D
[22:37] <knome> like the style?
[22:38] <pleia2> yep that's good
[22:38] <knome> okay, good
[22:38] <knome> don't want to be too "official"


[22:56] <rusivi> Hexbomber: If your in the mood to burn the midnight oil there are FOSS computer forensic software applications available (ex. The Slueth Kit) more info at -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_forensics#Forensic_process
[22:56] <trojan_spike> use computer janitor to uninstall/delete it>> only on vlc > then reinstall
[22:56] <sofaking88> simplyseth: Everything seems fine
[22:56] <blackshirt> anugivenname : what is your lan card...?
[22:57] <simplyseth> sofaking88: you are going to have to brave the big bad command line (menu -> accesories -> terminal)
[22:57] <holmser_> If I remember correctly, there is a command when compiling from source that will get all of the unmet dependencies for you.  Is this possible?
[22:57] <ivano> #ubuntu-it
[22:57] <rypervenche> intrader: Try these links. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2378034
[22:57] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: try sudo vlc, and what about mplayer, works?
[22:57] <anygivenname> how do I know the MAC address of the ethernet adapter?
[22:57] <blackshirt> holmser_: yes, exactly
[22:57] <sofaking88> simplyseth: Alright tell me what I have to do in the terminal
[22:57] <umibozu> join #openerp-it
[22:58] <shcherbak> anygivenname: ifconfig
[22:58] <blackshirt> anygivenname: you can use ifconfig utility
[22:58] <simplyseth> sofaking88: what does "ifconfig -a eth0 |grep inet" give you ?
[22:58] <Guest844> hi
[22:58] <Yerushalmi> shcherbak: Nope. mplayer also gives me Segmentation fault. So does sudo mplayer..
[22:58] <giiker> anygivenname: type in your shell ifconfig eth0
[22:58] <rypervenche> intrader: Nevermind, that is the only one. Try installing that program. Maybe try updating your BIOS as well.
[22:58] <Guest844> I SAID HI!!!!!
[22:58] <intrader> rypervenche, I will do that, thanks. By the way, how to test speed of OS?
[22:58] <holmser_> blackshirt, any help would be appreciated
[22:59] <smw> Guest844, please calm down. If you have a question, ask
[22:59] <rypervenche> intrader: You will need to ask someone else about that. I don't know.
[22:59] <simplyseth> sudo modprobe -a i810
[22:59] <simplyseth> woops
[22:59] <anygivenname> ifconfig eth0 gets an error device not found
[23:00] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: sudo apt-get install -f? not truly sure whats is wrong
[23:00] <Shwaiil> Q: I'm not finding how to use genisoimage, try a lot of commands without success. Is there any other ISO creator ?
[23:00] <Shwaiil> Thanks
[23:01] <Yerushalmi> shcherbak: What's that do?
[23:01] <blackshirt> holmser_: try apt-build... it's apt frontends for compile from source
[23:01] <intrader> rypervenche, what changed that requires BIOS change. Machine was running as well as it does Windows XP, and then from a couple of days ago, slow as molasses.
[23:01] <sofaking88> simplyseth: Hmm the wired connection is called "Auto Ethernet". Do I type that instead of eth0?
[23:01] <Naib> hi what version of mesa does ubuntu-10.10 ship with
[23:01] <yhonny> hi
[23:01] <simplyseth> sofaking88: its eth0 or eth1 or or or eth2 .. etc
[23:01] <blakkheim> !info mesa
[23:02] <blackshirt> anygivenname: check if your lan card has detected by kernel and kernel modul has been loaded properly
[23:02] <yhonny> quit
[23:02] <sofaking88> simplyseth: All I'm seeing is Auto Ethernet... I dunno
[23:02] <anygivenname> blackshirt: how do I do that ?
[23:02] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: clean system in short -- man apt-get, autoclean and autoremove are next, then update
[23:02] <holmser_> blackshirt, I am running ./configure right now and it keeps getting hung up on different dependencies.  I've tracked down 4 already, will apt-build work for me?
[23:02] <dogmatic69> hi all, ubuntu just crashed twice in 5 min, doing the normal browsing + some ftp
[23:02] <syn-ack> dogmatic69: Man, that sucks
[23:03] <dogmatic69> im kinda thinking someone tried to hack my box
[23:03] <simplyseth> sofaking88: weird .. then I'm lost .. usually ifconfig gives l0 and eth<something>
[23:03] <syn-ack> dogmatic69: Doubt it.
[23:03] <giiker> dogmatic69: why?
[23:03] <dogmatic69> me too
[23:03] <dogmatic69> but still
[23:03] <Yerushalmi> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:03] <valleydaddy78> what is the terminal command to open up the gui in 1010
[23:03] <blackshirt> holmser_: that case, maybe you want apt-get build-dep for packages you want to compile
[23:03] <Guest25127> @dogmatic69, *extremely* unusual ...
[23:03] <dogmatic69> well im no expert but there are some really strange things in the logs
[23:04] <giiker> what do htey say?...
[23:04] <blackshirt> anygivenname: can you paste output lspci | grep Ethernet
[23:04] <dogmatic69> which is the best log to look at about a crash
[23:04] <syn-ack> dogmatic69: pastebin some of what you think is strange for the channel, pls.
[23:04] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: ok what version you running (include graphic driver)
[23:04] <coz_> dogmatic69,  what were you doing just before the crash
[23:04] <coz_> dogmatic69,  and is this a system crash or an application crash
[23:04] <giiker> dogmatic69: dmesg | tail if it has been just recentley
[23:04] <dogmatic69> ff + ftp with some music
[23:05] <smw> dogmatic69, but not in the channel. Please pastebin the log entries you think are strange
[23:05] <Yerushalmi> I believe I'm running 10.10. How do I find out for sure (about that and the graphic driver)?
[23:05] <k-rad> how you use emacs to put a domain on the www
[23:05] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  lsb_release -a
[23:05] <Blue1> Yerushalmi: cat /etc/issue
[23:05] <Guest25127> System -> About Ubuntu
[23:05] <zvacet> Yerushalmi : lsb_release -a
[23:05] <giiker> dogmatic69: what were you fping?
[23:05] <dogmatic69> giiker: just a bunch of [23:05] <giiker> dogmatic69: what were you ftping?
[23:06] <k-rad> and what is the necessary key sequence ?
[23:06] <dogmatic69> php files to a server
[23:06] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  as you see there are several ways
[23:06] <Naib> !info libgl1-mesa-glx
[23:06] <sofaking88> simplyseth: What if I change auto ethernet to eth0...?
[23:06] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  do either or both of those in terminal
[23:06] <dogmatic69> giiker: ^ just updating my blog
[23:06] <Yerushalmi> Ah. 10.04
[23:06] <smw> k-rad, are you asking how to ftp with emacs?
[23:06] <Yerushalmi> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l
[23:07] <k-rad> emacs is a web server i was told
[23:07] <giiker> dogmatic69: can you go to Admi.../log file viewer?
[23:07] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: vlc -I qt4 --reset-config --reset-plugins-cache <-- from forum
[23:07] <dogmatic69> giiker: im in the logs
[23:07] <syn-ack> k-rad: emacs would be a good operating system if it only had a kernel.
[23:07] <Guest25127> @Yerushalmi, change your software sources in update manager so it can nag you into the later half of 2010 along with the rest of us ;-)
[23:07] <simplyseth> sofaking88: .. I'm confused .. in the 8+ years I worked with Linux .. I never seen an interface named something other than eth<something>
[23:07] <J11> still can't share my printer, how can i make sure it is accesable from samba?
[23:07] <smw> k-rad, really? even if it does, you should use a dedicated webserver
[23:07] <Yerushalmi> shcherbak: Segmentation fault.
[23:07] <KeithChester> Newbish question - where do i add an ln -s to point to a binary file so i can type a command and have it launch the appropiate binary file?
[23:08] <KeithChester> /usr/bin?
[23:08] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: also cvlc -vvv?
[23:08] <valleydaddy78> how do i open the gui from the terminal
[23:08] <strull> KeithChester: anywhere in your PATH
[23:08] <giiker> dogmatic69: well the ones with bold letter will take you to the last errors
[23:08] <zvacet> Guest25127: maybe he has reason to keep lts
[23:08] <sosaited> btrfs is 64-bit only?
[23:08] <KeithChester> strull - a bit more explanation please?
[23:08] <sofaking88> simplyseth: Well this is actually a friend's computer... I never had much of a problem with mine(the one I'm using now)
[23:08] <anygivenname> blackshirt: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[23:08] <smw> valleydaddy78, what gui?
[23:08] <giiker> dogmatic69: check there first!
[23:08] <Yerushalmi> shcherbak: Okay, lots of output here
[23:08] <sofaking88> simplyseth: I don't understand either
[23:08]  * A|F brb
[23:08] <shcherbak> valleydaddy78: what gui? gnome?
[23:08] <Yerushalmi> likely most pertinent bit: [0x9b53668] main libvlc warning: could not open plugins cache file /home/daniel/.cache/vlc/plugins-04041e.dat for reading
[23:08] <k-rad> why is there only one howard cosell video on youtube ?
[23:08] <dogmatic69> giiker: ye i opened it the first time it happend and the second time
[23:09] <giiker> dogmatic69: also check the console error in ff, maybe you can still retrieve the last errors before the crash
[23:09] <Guest25127> @KeithChester, stick the soft link on the Desktop as an icon ...
[23:09] <Yerushalmi> Followed by: [0x9b53668] main libvlc debug: recursively browsing `/usr/lib/vlc'
[23:09] <simplyseth> sofaking88: and out of curiosity what does  "cat /etc/lsb-release" say ?
[23:09] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: look for err
[23:09] <J11> i always get access denied error after i add the printer in windows
[23:09] <valleydaddy78> unity or gnome
[23:09] <Yerushalmi> No error. The warning is the second-to-last line, followed by the "recursively", followed by... say it with me now... Segmentation fault.
[23:09] <SerpentX> have u guys heard of reverse rsyncing? or reversle blow job?
[23:10] <valleydaddy78> shcherbak lets try both please
[23:11] <shcherbak> Yerushalmi: try to find that .dat and, most likely sudo apt-get purge vlc
[23:11] <k-rad> my mother is dead
[23:11] <shcherbak> valleydaddy78: xinit -- :1 vt8 fist part
[23:11] <smw> k-rad, ...
[23:11] <Nona_> hi
[23:11] <anygivenname> blackshirt: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[23:11] <shcherbak> valleydaddy78: xinit -- :1 vt8 first part
[23:12] <zvacet> ask!|Nona_
[23:12] <Guest25127> @k-rad, just buy a new board
[23:12] <dogmatic69> ok here is some stuff from daemon.log http://pastebin.com/Z2MTh621
[23:12] <shcherbak> valleydaddy78: what system are you using?
[23:12] <dogmatic69> you will see where it was restarted
[23:12] <dogmatic69> giiker: ^
[23:13] <holmser_> I am in dependency hell right now.  I hate working with a fresh install.
[23:13] <Jay> ti
[23:13] <Nona_> i cant use ubuntu 10.10 ... fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda5 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[23:13] <slyrus__> I accidentally ... my intel hdmi audio :(
[23:13] <valleydaddy78> ?????
[23:13] <sofaking88> simplyseth: DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.4 DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.1LTS"
[23:13] <k-rad> is sexual orientation political ?
[23:13] <slyrus__> any alsa experts around?
[23:13] <slyrus__> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=011f142aa9f348127eb2795c6c99b205b6ae1e6f
[23:13] <dela> hello spanish?
[23:13] <smw> k-rad, please stay on topic and stop trolling.
[23:13] <delinquentme> AHEM
[23:14] <smw> !es | dela
[23:14] <delinquentme> anyone here play SCII on ubuntu ???
[23:14] <zvacet> !ot | k-rad
[23:14] <SerpentX> i do everyday and all day
[23:14] <dela> thank you
[23:14] <SerpentX> SCII 4 LIFE
[23:14] <dela> smw
[23:14] <intrader> rypervenche, even typing on this chat (XChat) is painfully slow
[23:14] <SerpentX> !Blizzard
[23:14] <SerpentX> !ot | SerpentX
[23:15] <anygivenname> lspci | grep Ethernet.....got the name of the ethernet device
[23:15] <Yerushalmi> I'm going to head to sleep and deal wwith this tomorrow.
[23:15] <Yerushalmi> Thanks for trying, though, guys, all of you :)
[23:15] <Nona_> anyone had problem like this " fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda5 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?"
[23:15] <dobie_gillis> hey has anyone set up nullmailer before? i need it to route all outgoing mail to one address
[23:15] <anygivenname> how do I get the Ethernet to work ?
[23:15] <SerpentX> ubottu| Humans > Robots
[23:16] <sofaking88> simplyseth: That's all I got
[23:16] <blackshirt> anygivenname: sory, make you wait long time
[23:16] <SerpentX> guys ubottu keeps trollin me, i told him he's a vigin for life now he won't shut up
[23:17] <smw> SerpentX, please stop trolling.
[23:17] <LjL> SerpentX: you sent yourself !ot, now please heed it
[23:17] <flowbee> is there a way to make my micorsoft keyboard with a zoom button do scrolling?
[23:17] <shcherbak> SerpentX: silly boy plays with bot?
[23:18] <giiker> flowbee: I have a Microsoft Natural keyboard and I could change the default actions on the multimedia buttons, so I guess you might be able to do that too. i was using Ubuntu 9.04 @ that time though
[23:19] <SerpentX> !Halloween Candy
[23:19] <Shwaiil> 40m and I still couldnt' find how to create a Iso trough genisoimage. I can do it, but not with the boot commands
[23:19] <Shwaiil> :X
[23:19] <six3> oR
[23:19] <Guest25127> @flowbee, IIRC yes, this is possible - though it may require some fiddling with X config files
[23:19] <shcherbak> Nona_: what program?
[23:19] <SerpentX> !Cluster
[23:19] <SerpentX> !Accounting
[23:20] <SerpentX> !POS
[23:20] <LjL> !botabuse | SerpentX
 i cant booting ubuntu 10.10 .. im in liveCD now ..
[23:21] <Guest25127> @Nona_, what hardware do you have?
[23:21] <intrader> Anyone, these newest updates (couple of days ago) to 10.10 have slowed UI down to where the system is unresponsive. Horrible.
 fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda5 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[23:21] <shcherbak> Nona_: and sda5, do you remember what partition is it?
[23:21] <blackshirt> anygivenname: still there ?
[23:22] <anygivenname> yes
[23:22] <leonblanco> Que programa  usan para descargar musica ?
[23:22] <LjL> !es | leonblanco
[23:22] <anygivenname> lspci | grep Ethernet.....got the name of the ethernet device
 yes " /dev/sda5            9729       19056    74921984   83  Linux"
[23:23] <SerpentX> grep
[23:24] <Guest25127> Personally, I've only discovered a very small number of "little wiggles" with 10.10 (compared to 10.04) so far which I'm sure will be ironed out.
[23:24] <SerpentX> me too
[23:24] <SerpentX> it might be transmission
[23:24] <acidubthird> hello. im trying to see online tv but my connection is slow ( 20 to 30 kb per second or less) is there a way to reduce video quality or window size?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Nona_: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "pgrep fsck" ?
[23:24] <Shwaiil> Q: Is there any alternative to genisoimage ?
[23:25] <Guest25127> dd?
[23:25] <smw> acidubthird, not on your end. It needs to be an option on the site.
[23:26] <acidubthird> what is mirotv?
[23:26] <snarkster> acidubthird: google it
[23:26] <indy> i can't get my nvidia driver install on the new Ubuntu 10.10
[23:26] <six3> how do u mount samba shares without rights? Iforgot my pass
[23:26] <evi1nhand1er>  [*|NOTICE|*] AT 10PM TONIGHT, FREENODE WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU CONNECT TO IT. UNLESS YOU ENABLE SASL YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE. PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE AND/OR MSG A STAFFER FOR DETAILS. THANKYOU [*|NOTICE|*]   evi1nhand1er wzk beilabs indy _TexNick_ amazin tinkerghost raindog phio awe Buttons840 OerHeks pmow alpharesearch SaRy acidubthird leonblanco netstak Utkarsh GMeola YBH_1 Terminator XuMuK rickfosb six3 Cryptexus sam
[23:26] <evi1nhand1er>  [*|NOTICE|*] AT 10PM TONIGHT, FREENODE WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU CONNECT TO IT. UNLESS YOU ENABLE SASL YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE. PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE AND/OR MSG A STAFFER FOR DETAILS. THANKYOU [*|NOTICE|*]   aeon-ltd rcharles rosa witquicked trigrou janek pyghassen birix valleydaddy78 dogmatic69 selig5 Gnea juxta mand0 mneptok stevecam lighta dracor ivano holmser_ Rabbitbu1ny iflema k-rad KindOne wuj brishu Lenin_Cat jo
[23:26] <evi1nhand1er>  [*|NOTICE|*] AT 10PM TONIGHT, FREENODE WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU CONNECT TO IT. UNLESS YOU ENABLE SASL YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE. PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE AND/OR MSG A STAFFER FOR DETAILS. THANKYOU [*|NOTICE|*]   cocoa117 blackshirt intrader Gumby kek Inc` xerox1 hsyn Ramza_ lukus Shwaiil syn-ack hiredgoon Claudinux Noble MarkH CaioAlonso sud0 secoif Aaaarg TMN__ vinithra rhett_ Enissay dfgass geenna calinx goltoof linuxguy1
[23:26] <evi1nhand1er>  [*|NOTICE|*] AT 10PM TONIGHT, FREENODE WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU CONNECT TO IT. UNLESS YOU ENABLE SASL YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE. PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE AND/OR MSG A STAFFER FOR DETAILS. THANKYOU [*|NOTICE|*]   prtylghts e01 xomas sagaci anygivenname BardicBeluga Scarra3 coolmadmax skrite Genocyber RoughNeck tjubaluba_ amarcolino E8newallm Neurotrophin bsaibes kkszysiu flowbee Infra_HDC Akuma latenite alex__c2022 tck9 Hamm
[23:26] <evi1nhand1er>  [*|NOTICE|*] AT 10PM TONIGHT, FREENODE WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU CONNECT TO IT. UNLESS YOU ENABLE SASL YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE. PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE AND/OR MSG A STAFFER FOR DETAILS. THANKYOU [*|NOTICE|*]   kdnewton dougsko ezsmoke adobe Ziber mvn071 jamesstanley xiong Richiie_ frobisher Noz3001 Quaxir akcoder James147 slide pipeep Dupond smw themill dostaola tris2k kermit joaopinto farmer|alchemist Auv5 MKay|2 solifug
[23:26] <evi1nhand1er>  [*|NOTICE|*] AT 10PM TONIGHT, FREENODE WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU CONNECT TO IT. UNLESS YOU ENABLE SASL YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE. PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE AND/OR MSG A STAFFER FOR DETAILS. THANKYOU [*|NOTICE|*]   Guest25127 zkriesse Damianz krabador sraue kienerii patholio K0HAX scampbell DanMD ericm|ubuntu ArkAnGiCIA patcito john__ mythicalbox astra-x kxsteve kaziem mackal mcgvac amgarchIn9 mdavidn SegFaultAX adnc rmk strug
[23:26] <FloodBot2> evi1nhand1er: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <indy>  keep getting blank screen once installed
[23:27] <Guest25127> To reduce the quality of TV broadcasts, simply emigrate to the UK ... ;-)
[23:27] <snarkster> indy: do you have intel graphics card?
[23:27] <indy> no 330m
[23:27] <Nona_>  <Jordan_U> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l  Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00002fe5     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *           1        9729    78140144+   7  HPF
[23:27] <indy> nvidia
[23:27] <shcherbak> Nona_: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1601810&highlight=mounting+dev+on+root+dev+failed+no+such+file+OR+directory
[23:27] <mbroeker> why do all these guys spam on freenode for a couple of month?
[23:28] <SerpentX> can i build my own PVR like Bell Expressview?
[23:28] <snarkster> indy: once your booted see if you can ctrl+alt+f1
[23:28] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Nona_
[23:28] <effie_jayx> hello all, I have issues with my microphone. It only outputs noise. I am on a netbook Acer Aspire One, my soundcard is Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[23:28] <amarcolino> how do I enable SASL in pidgin when connecting to Freenode?
[23:28] <figueroa> linuzo, are u still there??
[23:28] <indy> snarkster: i get a blank screen when booted
[23:28] <smw> amarcolino, that is spam
[23:29] <snarkster> indy: rebooted and hold left shift to get the boot menu, goto recovery mode
[23:29] <blackshirt> !pastebinit dpkg -l
[23:29] <dogmatic69> giiker: did you see anything?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> amarcolino: Just so you know, the message about SASL being required is completely untrue. It is spam, ignore it.
[23:29] <acidubthird> i have a gsm connection that during the day gives me 20kbs per second and at night when everybody sleeps give 400 kb or more. are cable connections so unstable as that?
[23:29] <Guest25127> @indy, try an Alt-F key combination, sudo yourself and check your xorg.conf settin gs
[23:30] <greppy> acidubthird: that will depend on your ISP.
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/528426/
[23:30] <indy> ok but what am i looking for?
[23:30] <Guest25127> @indy - normally it means that the X Server is having trouble with your graphics hardware
[23:30] <Jordan_U> Nona_: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "pgrep fsck" ?
[23:31] <acidubthird> in the past dial up gave me 5 kbs per second during the day
[23:31] <pmow> Question:   I'm trying to route LAN traffic over an Ubuntu machine that I've routerized, but I'm having problems.  Would anybody have some time to help me out?
[23:31] <anygivenname> system does not see eth0.....
[23:31] <indy> Guest25127: the thing is that it sort of works in Ubuntu 10.04
[23:31] <SerpentX> pmow
[23:31] <SerpentX> u should check out #openwrt
[23:31] <pmow> SerpentX
[23:31] <indy> but if i upgrade after 10.04 it fails again
[23:32] <Guest25127> @indy, well grab the xorg.conf file from 10.04 and copy it then!
[23:32] <smw> pmow, ask a specific question and see if anyone can answer
[23:32] <pmow> SerpentX: I did check openWRT out, but decided against using it...the openvpn config was icky
[23:32] <Guest25127> @indy (intelligently!)
[23:32] <SerpentX> how many vpn clients?
[23:32] <acidubthird> i bought a 7mb service and only get 20 kb per second during day? is this legal?
[23:32] <pmow> one
[23:32] <anygivenname> is there a way to get driver ?
[23:32] <shirish> hi all, does anybody how to work with gconf-editor ?
[23:32] <SerpentX> openvpn config is icky regardless, but i got it to work
[23:32] <amarcolino> smw, Jordan_U, thanks for the heads up
[23:32] <shcherbak> acidubthird: this is it
[23:33] <shirish> please shout if you know gconf-editor
[23:33] <pmow> I'm configging a router between two networks, one is upstream and I'm establishing a VPN tunnel over that, tun0.  I now want to route one network into that adapter, tun0.
[23:33] <indy> unfortunately i'm not that good with xorg stuff so although i can try and do what you suggest I'm not sure if it's going to work since i always do a standard install of the driver i.e all settings are default
[23:34] <pmow> I added the route using the route command, but I cannot access anything when specifying the machine as gateway/dns
[23:34] <Shwaiil> Q: Any alternative to genisoimage to create image files on ubuntu ?
 i cant .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/528428/
[23:34] <pmow> None of the guides I've seen handle 3 NICs and openvpn, and they all fall apart when it comes to troubleshooting
[23:34] <smw> pmow, the other side needs to route back to you
[23:34] <SerpentX> and ips?
[23:34] <smw> pmow, or you need to use nat
[23:34] <pmow> smw: it does
[23:35] <acidubthird> shcherbak : is it legal?
[23:35] <shirish> I have messed up my keybindings, can somebody help ?
[23:35] <Guest25127> @indy, yeah - it's always a bit hit and miss for most of us when it's needed - try googling for someone using similar hardware to yourself running ubuntu or check out the ubuntu forums
[23:35] <pmow> the openvpn server is running nat and it routing out to the internets
[23:35] <indy> ok mate will do
[23:35] <indy> thanks for your help
[23:35] <pmow> the client has the route setup, although I'm guessing something is amiss there
[23:35] <Guest25127> @indy, if you tell me what hardware you have, I'll have a look for you
[23:36] <pmow> SerpentX: sorry, just saw your question
[23:37] <shirish> pmow: can you help me with gconf-editor and keyboard mapping
[23:38] <blackshirt> anygivenname : still there ??
[23:38] <anygivenname> yes
[23:38] <pmow> SerpentX: smw: IPs are <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:39] <pmow> shirish: not really, I've never messed with keyboard mapping unfortunately, sorry =/
[23:39] <J11> appearantly i just had to put: use client driver = yes in my smb.conf
[23:40] <pmow> smw: (<IP_ADDRESS> is the tunnel interface)
[23:40] <Shwaiil> Q: Any alternative to genisoimage to create image files on ubuntu ?
[23:40] <shirish> pmow: can you direct me to somebody who could.
[23:40] <smw> pmow, I have no idea.
 "pgrep fsck" nothing & mount here .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/528432
[23:40] <shirish> pmow: I tried following directions to this webpage
[23:41] <shirish> pmow: http://www.geekgumbo.com/2010/10/14/keyboard-shortcut-to-file-manager-in-ubuntu-windows-e-for-nautilus/
[23:41] <thechitowncubs> Can someone help me create a user with Read Only access to one directory?
[23:41] <pmow> smw: thanks anyway...it seems to be a bit crazy in here - I will try coming back tomorrow morning with some fresh coffee
[23:41] <thechitowncubs> But I want my user to still have read/write on that directory
[23:42] <shirish> pmow: the end result though is now that my 't' no longer works for anything.
[23:42] <pmow> shirish: honestly, when following hacks published in a blog and nowhere else, I'd leave some comments
[23:42] <pmow> shirish: have you considered undoing whatever it is you did?
[23:43] <J11> and took me 2 hours
[23:43] <shirish> pmow: I did that but no change :(
[23:44] <pmow> ya, dunno man
[23:44] <pmow> ttyl =)
[23:44] <figueroa_> linuzo,  are u back yet?
[23:44] <KungFuJesus> hey, how do I get more attention for this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/596327
[23:45] <KungFuJesus> it's a serious usability bug that's been ignored since June
[23:45] <tortoise> Ubuntu is becoming very unresponsive for some reason. Earlier I couldn't even boot ubuntu without everything freezing and having to reboot. Now it's starting and I can open firefox but right when I do it goes unresponsive again. I have no idea what could be causing this, could anyone give me some help?
[23:46] <arcnewuss> i have no sound in ubuntu 10.04
[23:46] <tortoise> my mouse is even lagging a whole lot (I'm using a different computer for irc btw)
[23:46] <arcnewuss> i have tried wave file and video files
[23:46] <blackshirt> tortoise: check your log, syslog, dmesg, org something concern
[23:47] <Shwaiil> Q: Any alternative to genisoimage to create image files on ubuntu ?
[23:47] <blackshirt> arcnewuss: install ubuntu-restricted-extras packages ...
[23:48] <arcnewuss> i already have the newest version
[23:48] <blackshirt> arcnewuss: what is your sound card type ??
[23:48] <snarkster> then it didnt install all the way
[23:49] <arcnewuss> snd_ice1724
[23:50] <brandy> hello
[23:50] <arcnewuss> a cheap sound card from auzentech with spidf output
[23:50] <arcnewuss> a toslink
[23:50] <kermit> how can i have all the computers in my house play  the same audio, in sync?
[23:51] <blackshirt> archnewuss: have kernel module for your sound card been loaded ?
[23:51] <tortoise> Does anyone know what might be the cause to this unresponsiveness? I can't do anything on my computer without freezing
[23:51] <arcnewuss> yes
[23:51] <KungFuJesus> anybody?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/596327
[23:51] <mfonda> how to list all packages installed?
[23:52] <arcnewuss> well i checked through lsmod im not sure if thats the proper way blackshirt
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> kermit: icecast, but thats basically internal broadcasting from one pc
[23:52] <arcnewuss> the card appears in lsmod
[23:52] <kermit> aeon-ltd: icecast will synchronize?  i thought that was just web streaming
[23:53] <Tweedle> kermit, Jack Audio allows you to make connections over networks
[23:53] <kermit> Tweedle: ahh, ok
[23:53] <Tweedle> icecast would work, but pointless and not syc'd
[23:53] <n0sq> i see that tor is still available but a couple of years ago someone said that it isn't all that safe (depending on the site operator)
[23:53] <Silivrenion> can anyone recommend a good html editor with syntax highlighting?
[23:53] <linuzo> lol I was afk
[23:54] <lukus> Silivrenion, aptana and netbeans are worth looking into
[23:54] <blackshirt> arcnewuss: try to add options snd-ice1714 model=delta66 (or delta1010LT) on your section of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf... maybe help
[23:54] <paranoid_ndroid> is there anyway to access gnome configs by text?
[23:55] <xrdodrx> Silivrenion, there's one included: gedit...go to View>Highlight Mode>Markup>HTML
[23:56] <sosaited> is there a gparted channel?
[23:56] <linuzo> paranoid_ndroid, gedit?
[23:56] <thechitowncubs> linuzo: hes asking where the config files are
[23:56] <paranoid_ndroid> linuzo but what are the files?
[23:57] <paranoid_ndroid> I want to edit remotely via ssh
[23:57] <Silivrenion> thanks xrdodrx, highlighting is all i needed
[23:57] <xrdodrx> sosaited, irc.gnome.org #gparted
[23:57] <arcnewuss> blackshirt why the delta66
[23:57] <xrdodrx> Silivrenion, no problem
[23:57] <linuzo> paranoid_ndroid, for what part of gnome/
[23:57] <Silivrenion> i code all my webpages by hand these days :)
[23:58] <ccodre> :)
[23:58] <linuzo> paranoid_ndroid, ~/.gconf
[23:58] <cheche> Hi, anyone notice that autologin on gdm stop working after some updates on lucid?
[23:58] <holmser_> what is the best way to make my apache root directory (/var/www) writable by my default user?
[23:58] <sosaited> xrdodrx: That would be Gimp servers right?
[23:59] <xrdodrx> sosaited, Gimp servers?
[23:59] <_TexNick_> using Xchat ... can i dock the channel list on the main window ... instead of the default seperate window ?
[23:59] <linuzo> paranoid_ndroid, there xml files is what your looking for
[23:59]  * thechitowncubs playing on Clementine: Owl City - Ocean Eyes - Fireflies /// Bitrate: 256kbps
[23:59] <blakkheim> lol 256kbps
[23:59] <zifnab> does the ipod touch 3g sync with ubuntu 10.10?
[23:59] <thechitowncubs> blakkheim: Ogg Vorbis -q8 umadbro?
[23:59] <holmser_> I've done chmod in the past, but it seems to cause problems.  Would changing group permissions be better?