[05:41] <Fyb3r> `/me can someone please help me
[05:41] <idcard> ok...
[05:41] <dr_willis> Cups web interface is buggered up. :(
[05:41] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:41] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, the source says nothing of help...
[05:41] <acke__> frogzpp thanks
[05:41] <bean> pppoe_dude: can u point me at a guide/wiki/faq?
[05:41] <idcard> i have a serious ubuntu install problem
[05:41] <acke__> frogzoo ty
[05:41] <BlueEagle> alienx: I was unable to figure out what the username and password was supposed to be.
[05:41] <Fyb3r> same here idcard
[05:41] <Frogzoo> acke__: yw
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> bean, 1 sec im lookin
[05:42] <Fyb3r> no one is helpin me
[05:42] <BlueEagle> alienx: ..or how to set it.
[05:42] <xxx> dbmp,so ,how about !upgrade? i didnt see it
[05:42] <revilot> AlienX: its in this list http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:42] <kayde> Fyb3r, what with?
[05:42] <idcard> i messed up the mbr
[05:42] <AlienX> BlueEagle, it's your root password
[05:42] <bean> pppoe_dude: thanks
[05:42] <Fyb3r> i get to 54
[05:42] <Fyb3r> ahh
[05:42] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: I've been writing a script now for about 2 years. it restores my system from scratch on any new installation. it completely restores my system. I download many packages and now I think I might be downloading dependencies along side the packages that require them... it might not be a biggie but I would like to clean up and include in the script only what I really need
[05:42] <ToHellWithGA> kayde: i didn't say outright i could help you.  i just wanted you to formulate a question.  can anybody here help kayde with putting his script into The GIMP?
[05:42] <coreyo> what are the grub commands to reinstall grub to your mbr?
[05:42] <Fyb3r> 54% on my install on the live cd and it goes black, but i can still see my mouse
[05:42] <AlienX> revilot, hmm, no idea what to tell you then. I use an orinoco card and it just works :)
[05:42] <BlueEagle> alienx: so I need to set a root password for it to work? and use the root user?
[05:42] <xxx> 11:37:29) ubotu: 34 topics: kick, lart, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, lobotomy, lock, main, nickometer, nslookup, ord, part, quote, redirection, rename, reply, rot13, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, uptime, wantnick
[05:43] <bdmp_> ic56, xxx is right. that list doesn't have !paste and !upgrade. Maybe that is the wrong help commmand.  What do you think?
[05:43] <AlienX> BlueEagle, I don't know if you *need* to do it that way, but it's how my system is configured. I'm sure there are people who might advise against it
[05:43] <Frogzoo> !tell idcard about recoveringgrub
[05:43] <revilot> AlienX: thx anyway
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> so vbgunz you're saying you only want to include the highest level packages so that the little ones aren't required in the list
[05:43] <kayde> Fyb3r, woa! i have no idea man, try asking the room
[05:43] <varsendaggr> kayde, what id going on?
[05:43] <bdmp_> xxx, I am trying to figure it out.
[05:43] <acke__> my 15.4 can do 1400x800 but is set to 1024x800 Can I change the screenres to something more appropriate?
[05:43] <xxx> this is result after i typed that
[05:43] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: yes, basically
[05:43] <BlueEagle> alienx: Ok. Thanks for your help. :)
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: that's so sexy
[05:43] <AlienX> BlueEagle, np, good luck
[05:43] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G to work on Ubuntu.  ndiswrapper is configured and says "Driver present, hardware present" but I can't connect to the network.  What could be wrong?
[05:43] <Fyb3r> i have tried, but no one will help =(
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> good luck with that
[05:43] <pppoe_dude> bean, http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall << guide for linux but not ubuntu, should give you an idea of which ports to forward
[05:43] <bdmp_> xxx, you should start a chinese channel. for other people.
[05:43] <kayde> varsendaggr, i cant get my .scm script to work>i dont know where to put it...
[05:43] <bdmp_> !languages
[05:43] <ubotu> it has been said that languages is found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles
[05:44] <idcard> right now i am using the cd to boot into the kernel
[05:44] <kayde> Fyb3r, try and google it
[05:44] <xxx> i dont know the name of chinese channel
[05:44] <varsendaggr> jsut a sec
[05:44] <kayde> varsendaggr, ok :0
[05:44] <tau> bdmp: did you see my reply?
[05:44] <Fyb3r> i HAVE!!!
[05:44] <reZo> Does Fluxbox work on Ubuntu 5.04?
[05:44] <spikeb> xxx: #ubuntu-cn i would imagine
[05:44] <Fyb3r> ive even been on the forums
[05:44] <pppoe_dude> bean, seems like ports 4662 4665 4672 need to be forwarded
[05:44] <kayde> Fyb3r, ok...
[05:44] <pppoe_dude> bean, do you know how to login to your router?
[05:44] <AlienX> reZo, i would guess that fluxbox would work on anything :)
[05:44] <Fyb3r> now i cant burn any cd's....because its on my main desktop
[05:44] <xxx> ok ,let me try
[05:45] <bean> yep
[05:45] <Fyb3r> so my only hope would be a network install from my laptop
[05:45] <reZo> AlienX, okay, yeah, true...
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: yes
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: forward those ports to which port?
[05:45] <idcard> i have two hard drives... one sata and the other ide ubuntu default installed the mbr i think on my ide which the kernel is not on
[05:45] <bdmp_> xxx, i mean make one. Then we can register it with ubuntu and when people like you come here we can say "!chinese" and the bot will say "go to #ubuntu-cn
[05:45] <AlienX> reZo, you may need multiuniverse or one of those sources though. Try apt-cache search fluxbox
[05:45] <pppoe_dude> bean, same ports on your local ip
[05:45] <bdmp_> spikeb: there is no channel but I am trying to get xxx to make one.
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:45] <spikeb> hmm
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: i'll try that
[05:45] <spikeb> there's a factoid about it though
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: thanks
[05:46] <bdmp_> !languages
[05:46] <ubotu> languages is, like, found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles
[05:46] <bdmp_> right?
[05:46] <ToHellWithGA> bdmp_: what do you mean "you people"
[05:46] <varsendaggr> kayde, maybe .gimp/plugins
[05:46] <ToHellWithGA> or rather "people like you"
[05:46] <AlienX> Fyb3r, if someone can help, they will. be patient
[05:46] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: capslock is unlikely to win you friends
[05:46] <planetcall> how can fstab be fixed autmatically ?
[05:47] <xxx> dbmp ,there is a chinese channel:) i got in it:)
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> planetcall: what's broken about it?
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> bean, np
[05:47] <acke__> Where is java installed?
[05:47] <kayde> varsendaggr, in gimp ...etc/gimp/2.0/ then there is nothing other than geditt files :(
[05:47] <Fyb3r> well why isnt this install workink as it should?
[05:47] <AlienX> Fyb3r, be more specific
[05:47] <varsendaggr> kayde, i don't know
[05:47] <planetcall> ToHellWithGA,  it says difference between bootsector and its backup while rebooting
[05:47] <Fyb3r> I HAVE!!!!
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> kayde: there are no "gedit files" it's just the default application when browsing graphically for text files
[05:47] <varsendaggr> sorry
[05:47] <bdmp_> ToHellWithGA: I mean "people like you" meaning people who speak chinese. Not "you people" what do you mean? I don't suppose that I live in Japan and can read and write Japanese makes me not racist>
[05:47] <Fyb3r> i get to 54% and it freezes
[05:47] <bdmp_> ?
[05:47] <Fyb3r> then the screen turns black
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> bdmp_: racist :p
[05:47] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, so, how do i do itt?
[05:48] <Fyb3r> all i can see is my mouse
[05:48] <bdmp_> What were you implying?
[05:48] <AlienX> Fyb3r, what happens when you hit a key? which method are you installing with?
[05:48] <planetcall> I would like fstab to autmatically generate the mount table for all drives and partitions as it happens during installation
[05:48] <Fyb3r> this is on a live cd
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> kayde, i was just pointing out that it's not a "gedit" file
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> bdmp_: peace man.  i was kidding
[05:48] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, :(
[05:48] <tau> bdmp_: hello?
[05:48] <Fyb3r> hit a key does nothing
[05:48] <Fyb3r> im choose to format entire disk
[05:48] <Fyb3r> but it is the primary hdd
[05:48] <Fyb3r> so im thinkin thats what it is
[05:49] <kayde> damit
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> somebody tell fyb3r that trick to close your desktop in gdm
[05:49] <AlienX> Fyb3r, is the hard drive still spinning when it goes black?
[05:49] <bdmp_> tau: yes?
[05:49] <Fyb3r> yes
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> that key combo.  ctrl+shift+backspace or something
[05:49] <AdmiralCrunch> Am I correct in saying that a lot of people are having 'fglrx' problems?
[05:49] <Fyb3r> but cd and hdd light are off
[05:49] <Fyb3r> so im guessing no
[05:49] <tau> bdmp_: you asked what method I was using to upgrade, I said I used update-manager
[05:49] <planetcall> ToHellWithGA, any idea ?
[05:49] <Fyb3r> but why would it get up to 54% and freeze?
[05:49] <jighead> AdmiralCrunch, yes
[05:49] <xxx> dbmp , i like both ubuntu-cn and here ,i can exercise my english ,if u guys wont bore me:)
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> planetcall: no idea
[05:49] <bdmp_> ToHellWithGA: sorry, I can't tell sarcasm over text.
[05:50] <ToHellWithGA> no doubt
[05:50] <tau> bdmp_: it's back up there if you missed it
[05:50] <AlienX> Fyb3r, hmm...any number of reasons. You may have unsupported hardware, your harddrive could be bad, the disk could be burned badly...
[05:50] <bdmp_> xxx, oh, no problem. I thought there was no chinese channel so I was suggesting you make one. My bad.
[05:50] <Fyb3r> well i cant burn another ddisk because my only burner is on the pc im tryin to get workinm
[05:50] <Fyb3r> my only option is to try a network install from my laptop
[05:51] <bdmp_> !upgrade
[05:51] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:51] <Fyb3r> but i dont know how
[05:51] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: you can't burn a CD on somebody else's computer?
[05:51] <bdmp_> tau: what are you upgreading to? Dapper?
[05:51] <xxx> well ,it's still a good idea, even there is already  one
[05:51] <Fyb3r> no
[05:51] <tau> bdmp_: yes
[05:51] <ToHellWithGA> it doesn't take long to download ubuntu.  surely one of your friends or coworkers would let you burn a CD
[05:51] <Fyb3r> this laptop doesnt have a burner
[05:51] <AlienX> Fyb3r, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall
[05:52] <Fyb3r> i have no friends that have a pc near my house
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: think bigger.  there's a world outside the room where you have your computers
[05:52] <redrum_> fyb3r you can order cds from ubuntu?
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> you might have to drive or walk.  small price to pay
[05:52] <Coldtoast> yeah. but that world SUCKS
[05:52] <Fyb3r> i did order them
[05:52] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G to work on Ubuntu.  ndiswrapper is configured and says "Driver present, hardware present" but I can't connect to the network.  What could be wrong?
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ Coldtoast
[05:52] <Fyb3r> but i cant wait 3 wks
[05:52] <redrum_> lol
[05:52] <Coldtoast> I'm 33 so I know these things
[05:52] <intelikey> ToHellWithGA doesn't take long to dl an iso..... dialup here baby.  takes for ever and a day.
[05:53] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: if you care enough you can do the net install or (to counter intelikey) go to your public library and download and burn it
[05:53] <t-thing> hi. I've got BCM4318 wireless card with wep encryption and for some reason it can't find my ap so I can't get an ip. iwconfig says access point invalid. Could someone help me out here?
[05:53] <Coldtoast> even on dialup you'd have it sooner than waiting for the discs
[05:53] <Chihork> would someone explain initrd a little bit to me?  Like, what does this do at boottime?
[05:53] <AlienX> ubotu, tell Anonycat about wireless
[05:53] <Fyb3r> but i cant wait 3 wks?
[05:53] <Fyb3r> wtf
[05:53] <Fyb3r> ToHellWithGA: this laptop is runnin XP......can i still do the net install?
[05:54] <bdmp_> tau: go to the second link that the bot posts when I say !upgrade, then use the second part on the faq, about upgrading over comand line. Make sure you read that whole section to the bottom before you start so you don't mess up the system. I will walk you through it if you need it. Just read it first.
[05:54] <bdmp_> !upgrade
[05:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:54] <Fyb3r> lol damn up key
[05:54] <Coldtoast> wonder what % of ppl run KDE instead of GNOME
[05:54] <jighead> Chihork, it preloads essential modules into memory that will let your kernel get going
[05:54] <AlienX> Fyb3r, read that site i sent you, it tells you how to do a net install
[05:54] <Fyb3r> ok but from xp?
[05:54] <intelikey> Coldtoast not so sure about that.  but what if you don't want it bad enought to install it if the disks were lying in front of you.... ?
[05:54] <AdmiralCrunch> Coldtoast, I don't know how you would get those stats
[05:54] <Chihork> jighead: does it do anything else, or is it strictly there to load modules?  Does it run any scripts?
[05:55] <jighead> Chihork, it's just modules for hardware support
[05:55] <BlueEagle> chihork: initrd = initial ram disk. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/initrd.html
[05:55] <bdmp_> xxx: there is a chinese channel. I didn't know there was. It looks cool. I wish there was a japanese one.
[05:55] <Frogzoo> Coldtoast: if it's proportional to peeps in #ubuntu vs #kubuntu, then I'd say around 20%
[05:55] <BlueEagle> ,--8<-
[05:55] <BlueEagle> |"The key role of initrd here is to re-use the configuration data
[05:55] <BlueEagle> |during normal system operation without requiring the use of a
[05:55] <BlueEagle> `-->8-
[05:55] <AlienX> Fyb3r, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[05:55] <BlueEagle> ouch. sorry about that.
[05:55] <BlueEagle> I hoped to get all that text on one line :(
[05:55] <Chihork> awesome.  jibhead, BlueEagle, thanks.
[05:56] <Chihork> jighead, rather
[05:56] <tau> bdmp_: I wanted to avoid using the command line..  do you think given the problem that upgrading by hand is the only way around it?
[05:56] <SurfnKid> ok this is weird
[05:56] <SurfnKid> anyone using ICQ under GAIM
[05:56] <intelikey> so i'm forved to use lilo cause grub can't be installed on this system.      oh well.
[05:56] <intelikey> forced
[05:56] <SurfnKid> i cant get my account to come up
[05:56] <dr_willis> embrace the command line.. its your friend.
[05:56] <AlienX> Fyb3r, though that may just be for breezy...i'm not sure
[05:56] <bdmp_> tau. I think it will be a lot less painful and quck if you use the command line.
[05:57] <wweasel> Hey guys, I have a question and I know it's stupid and easy to solve, I just don't know how. I have a clean install of Ubuntu.  I'd like to access my Windows NTFS partition.  It's loaded by default in "Computer." Don't have permissions, blah blah.  So I go to edit fstab, but it doesn't seem to be there.  It's also not mounted to a /media/xxxxx, it is mounted to /tmp/xxxx.  So I can't unmount it. Help?
[05:57] <tau> bdmp_: ok..
[05:57] <bdmp_> tau, especially if it is not working
[05:57] <Coldtoast> oh hey. if I want smp do I still need a smp version of 2.6.15-23? or does 2.6.15-23-686 now encompass smp as well?
[05:57] <yuheng108> can anyone help me to set up my mini web cam?
[05:57] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:57] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[05:58] <AlienX> yuheng108, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28webcam%29
[05:58] <Coldtoast> ubotu: is captiventfs unsafe?
[05:58] <ubotu> Coldtoast: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:58] <spikeb> !captive
[05:58] <ubotu> it has been said that captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[05:58] <yuheng108> thanks AlienX
[05:58] <AlienX> yuheng108, np
[05:58] <AdmiralCrunch> Coldtoast, writing to NTFS is generally unsafe
[05:58] <Coldtoast> doesn't it?
[05:58] <Coldtoast> it seems to work ok here on Dapper
[05:58] <Coldtoast> when I need it anyway. not often
[05:58] <acke__> Warbo where can i find 1.5 JRE (or bin) once it is installed?
[05:58] <wweasel> dr_willis: that assumes that the drive isn't already mounted.  I know how to do what is explained on that wiki. but the drive is already mounted.
[05:58] <chapium> are/o
[05:58] <spikeb> maybe the factoid is outdated
[05:59] <yurka> hey can someone help me use a packetsniffer?
[05:59] <bdmp_> AdmiralCrunch: he just wants to mount it though, I think. We should warn him about writing though.
[05:59] <planetcall> suggest me your best FileSystem choice for Ubuntu
[05:59] <spikeb> planetcall: ext3
[05:59] <Chihork> any idea if initrd has anything to do with ALSA besides loading the modules?  Any idea how I can mount / take a look at what is inside my initrd file?  I'm having trouble getting ALSA working with my newly configured kernel, and I'm wondering if loading my kernel without an initrd could be the problem.
[05:59] <wweasel> I know that NTFS write support is still alpha.
[05:59] <BlueEagle> coldtoast: I would really, really recomend you get a fat32 partition if you need to write data that needs to be accessible in windows. Either that or get an ext* driver for windows.
[05:59] <planetcall> spikeb, how about xfs ?
[05:59] <chapium> nah
[05:59] <spikeb> planetcall: haven't tried it on ubuntu
[05:59] <chapium> ext3, tried and true
[06:00] <dr_willis> I use those ext drivers for windows :P they work decent
[06:00] <Coldtoast> ubotu: the reason I ask about smp is when I apt-get install linux-686-smp, the it downloads linux-686-smp and limux-image-686, not a smp version of linux-image
[06:00] <ubotu> okay, Coldtoast
[06:00] <planetcall> chapium, I am using ReiserFS and will never use it again for sure !
[06:00] <yuheng108> AlienX I can't find my webcam there
[06:00] <wweasel> coldtoast: ubotu isn't a person.
[06:00] <BlueEagle> chihork: initrd will probably not load alsa drivers. The main purpous of the initrd is to load device driver required to mount the real root file system. ie if you've got SCSI drivers that need to be loaded because your / is on a SCSI disk.
[06:00] <Coldtoast> oh. heh
[06:00] <Coldtoast> ok
[06:00] <BlueEagle> chihork: alsa is loaded very much later than this.
[06:00] <bthornton> what package(s) do I need to install in Dapper to watch DVDs in Totem?
[06:00] <yuheng108> I am using this vimicro 301X, and I am really confuse how to get it working under linux, please
[06:01] <yuheng108> help
[06:01] <bthornton> Or should I use something else to watch DVDs?
[06:01] <chapium> planetcall: i'll remember that, i've been curious about it, but in the end i dont think i notice what file system i'm using
[06:01] <tau> bdmp_: should I manually remove third-party repositories from the sources.list as well as changing breezy to dapper? (update-manager popped up a box saying it did)
[06:01] <Chihork> BlueEagle: then I can rule this one out.  Thanks again.
[06:01] <chapium> planetcall: on desktop anyways
[06:01] <acke__> How do i change screen respolution? in the gui i can only choose up till 1024x800 i need 1400x800??
[06:01] <planetcall> spikeb, chapium any idea how to change Filesystem without reinstalling ?
[06:01] <BlueEagle> chihork: Now what was the trouble with alsa again? Which sound card and so on?
[06:01] <planetcall> reinstall the OS !
[06:01] <Coldtoast> BlueEagle: yeah. I'll probably set my empty RAID up with ext3 instead of using captiventfs
[06:01] <xxx> !listkeys
[06:01] <spikeb> planetcall: you can format the partition
[06:01] <wweasel> Anyone: I am having trouble getting my NTFS partition mounted. It is automatically mounted to /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 on my clean install.  How do I unmount it from there?
[06:01] <gyro_54> totems great for DVD's
[06:01] <spikeb> planetcall: but you will lose your data
[06:01] <cyne> does anyone know if Ubuntu will run on an old colour ibook?
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, you can change from ext2 -> ext3 -> ex2
[06:01] <[arcane] > wweasel, umount it
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, but i dont think you can do it for other types
[06:02] <planetcall> but how can you format the root partition ? or /boot ?
[06:02] <Coldtoast> I kinda wanted to try reiserfs tho cos most of the data I'll be putting on the raid will be small files
[06:02] <spikeb> planetcall: oh that will screw up your system
[06:02] <Coldtoast> and loads of em
[06:02] <planetcall> yea
[06:02] <intelikey> BlueEagle yes.  but in ubuntu (default kernels)  all root files systems must have initrd to mount them.... no fs support other than cram in the kernel.
[06:02] <spikeb> planetcall: you'd have to reinstall in that case
[06:02] <xxx> !paste
[06:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:02] <planetcall> so I am going for reinstall
[06:02] <chapium> cyne: i just installed it on an imac g3 just fine recently, its not an ibook but there is some support for some of these old boat anchor machines
[06:02] <AlienX> yuheng108, it is possible it's not supported
[06:02] <snoops> hey I followed a guide on the ubuntu forums to getting compiz and xgl working.. at one point it said I would lose my title bars, but I could still move windows with alt+click..the titles bars did indeed go, but alt+click didn't work.. so I tried out xgl and compiz.. then wanted to revert back..so I uninstalled everything I installed, plus removed the config files I made
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, what filesystems are you switching?
[06:02] <bdmp_> tau, how are you editing the list?
[06:03] <snoops> now I'm back to my normal setup, BUT the title bars are still gone
[06:03] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Thanks. I was not aware of that.
[06:03] <cyne> chapium,.. nice thanks :) got any URLS ?
[06:03] <tau> bdmp_: using gedit
[06:03] <bthornton> gyro_54: it's telling me "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."
[06:03] <planetcall> pppoe_dude, here peeps are suggesting extfs3........some other friends suggest xfs
[06:03] <chapium> snoops: run metacity --replace
[06:03] <AlienX> bthornton, you need libdvdcss
[06:03] <Coldtoast> but there are no reiserfs drivers for Windows yet afaik
[06:03] <bdmp_> tau, just put # infront of all the 3rd party ones
[06:03] <bthornton> AlienX: Thanks!
[06:03] <tau> bdmp_: I guess I should comment out the dapper backport repositories as well
[06:03] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, from..
[06:03] <[arcane] > bthornton, then look into vlc
[06:03] <planetcall> i will go with extfs3 as I can read it on windows as well if required
[06:03] <bdmp_> for the time being
[06:03] <snoops> brilliant thank you chapium :D
[06:03] <planetcall> pppoe_dude, from reiserfs
[06:03] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, ok
[06:03] <dick-richardson> When I close my laptop lid and open it again, it asks me for a password. How do I turn that off?
[06:03] <Chihork> BlueEagle: CS4281 : Crystal Sound Fusion.  I'm trying to use the low-latency pre-emptible patch, along with a custom-configuration for my kernel.  My sound card worked fine with the kernel provided, but after installing the new kernel, it doesn't work.  I think I'm messing up the IRQ sharing somewheres.
[06:03] <tau> bdmp_: ok
[06:03] <bdmp_> yeah
[06:03] <intelikey> BlueEagle yeah it kinda stinks imo cant even mount ext2 on /dev/hda1  hehhe how weak is that....  ;/
[06:04] <yuheng108> AlienX, but I thought it's possible to get everything to work under linux
[06:04] <redrum> ati drivers are causing random x reboots
[06:04] <[arcane] > yuheng108, yeah you can
[06:04] <bthornton> Uh oh... can I safely assume that since I'm running a 64-bit platform, I will be unable to install libdvdcss without doing a chroot?
[06:04] <[arcane] > yuheng108, just ahve to work at it
[06:04] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Well with the wide variety of filesystems that are availible it is a sound way to keep the kernel size down to a minimum.
[06:04] <AlienX> yuheng108 & [arcane]  only if you write your own drivers...not EVERYTHING is supported.
[06:04] <SurfnKid> redrum, what system do you have
[06:04] <eobanb> bthornton, i think you're fine
[06:04] <planetcall> ok guys !....going for a reinstall. I can afford it because my dapper installation is fairly recent
[06:04] <[arcane] > AlienX, well damn near everything is
[06:05] <[arcane] > dont speak if you dont know
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, good luck
[06:05] <redrum> SurfnKid, AMD64 3000 754 with a Radeon 9550/600
[06:05] <tau> bdmp_: ok, it's started going..
[06:05] <eobanb> bthornton, libdvdcss has been compiled for x64, as far as i know
[06:05] <planetcall> :D ty
[06:05] <gyro_54> bthornton: They work great on mine. Dapper. I will look to see wnat plug ins I have
[06:05] <AlienX> [arcane] , i've been using linux since 1998, i have a bit of a clue :)
[06:05] <[arcane] > and that really means nothinhg
[06:05] <BlueEagle> chihork: Are you compiling the driver as a module?
[06:05] <[arcane] > time means nothing
[06:05] <yuheng108> I am confuse, I just want to get my webcam working, does anyone know how??? it's a vimicro 301x
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> AlienX, [arcane]  no fighting ;)
[06:05] <Chihork> the preemptible one, or the Alsa one?  ALSA is definitely a module.
[06:05] <bdmp_> tau, so finish and then restart. Then you are done. easy huh?
[06:05] <AlienX> pppoe_dude, :)
[06:06] <BlueEagle> chihork: Is it loaded?
[06:06] <intelikey> BlueEagle kernel small initrd large.  initrd.img is over 5m now  they could have included ext# fs support for only a few k of kernel space
[06:06] <[arcane] > pppoe_dude, okey dokey
[06:06] <ToHellWithGA> all yall running 64 bit stuff, is it mostly so you can dual boot and do 64 bit gaming in windows?
[06:06] <tau> bdmp_: well, it hasn't finished yet :p
[06:06] <redrum> SurfnKid,  I can get OpenGL to work OK, I can even get enemy territory to run without chroot n stuff
[06:06] <redrum> ToHellWithGA, wouldnt touch windows x64 with a crane and a pole
[06:06] <Chihork> BlueEagle: sndcore is listed in lsmod, as well as snd-cs4281, so I think I can safely say, yes.
[06:06] <bdmp_> tau, yeah, when it is done
[06:06] <bdmp_> it will take a while
[06:07] <bdmp_> do you have kubuntu installed too?
[06:07] <SurfnKid> redrum, but it just reboots suddenly
[06:07] <ToHellWithGA> redrum: i wouldn't touch windows unless i had to do so anyway, but... what's the point of 64 bit computing for everyday uses?
[06:07] <BlueEagle> chihork: I see. Well then I'm all out of ideas. Perhaps compile support into the kernel instead of putting it in as a module? Might help.
[06:07] <redrum> SurfnKid, its on the exiting of applications mainly, causes x to simply reboot
[06:07] <tau> bdmp_: no, just regular 5.10 breezy, though I did recompile a new kernel
[06:07] <Chihork> BlueEagle: but cat /proc/asound/cards gives "---no soundcards---"
[06:07] <SurfnKid> redrum, I see
[06:07] <redrum> ToHellWithGA, well im running 32 bit windows for gaming, 64 bit linux for everything else - biggest downfall is having an ATi card atm.
[06:07] <intelikey> Chihork the place to look to make sure the card is properly setup is cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:08] <SurfnKid> redrum, where from mate
[06:08] <AlienX> ToHellWithGA, there isn't really a point unless you're doing some intensive video editing or graphics work. That's just my opinion though :)
[06:08] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Isn't initrd unloaded from memory after it's done with?
[06:08] <bdmp_> tau, then maybe an hour. I had both so it took a while
[06:08] <redrum> SurfnKid, Ballarat/Melbourne australia
[06:08] <tau> bdmp_: an hour?!?!  ouch.
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> AlienX: that's what i was thinking when i made my last PC.  one or two generations old hardware is plenty for me and much cheaper
[06:08] <AlienX> redrum, speaking of redrum...bundy rocks! ;)
[06:08] <SurfnKid> redrum, cold down there hehe
[06:08] <bdmp_> tau, maybe longer
[06:08] <tau> bdmp_: I just hope I don't run out of disk space
[06:08] <bdmp_> you could watch a movie
[06:08] <bdmp_> oh...
[06:09] <redrum> SurfnKid, its like living inside a meat freezer atm
[06:09] <dick-richardson> is anyone familiar with configuring the lid switch? I don't want to enter the pusswrd when I open the laptop lid.
[06:09] <bdmp_> delete anything you can now.
[06:09] <BlueEagle> chihork: and you can mount  your initrd with mount -o loop. You might have to run gunzup on it first if it's packed with gzip.
[06:09] <snoops> chapium yeah that worked a treat, cheers
[06:09] <BlueEagle> chihork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[06:09] <tau> bdmp_: well, it seems to have gotten further than update-manager did.  I wonder what the problem was?  weird
[06:09] <bdmp_> tau, it must be about 700mb
[06:09] <intelikey> BlueEagle yeah but that doesn't fix the boot issues caused by the initrd.img size.  you can't use loadlin to kick off ubuntu from windows because of the initrd size and the nessecity of loading it.
[06:09] <bdmp_> i had the same problem
[06:09] <Chihork> BlueEagle: yes, I am experimenting with a few ideas.  I'll add that one to the list :).  Thanks for the help.  Ahh, I think I'll check that out.  Initrd is like a blackbox to me right now.  Thanks again.
[06:09] <bdmp_> did you have the most recent update manager?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> redrum, haha, thats a good way to put it
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, go to System>preferences>powermanagement and choose "when lid is closed - do nothing"
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> dick-richardson: that's a cool feature... but i could see how it'd be annoying
[06:10] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Ahh, yes. That's a valid point. I didn't even concider that.
[06:10] <guest_amastudent> how do I play MP3?
[06:10] <BlueEagle> chihork: initrd is _supposed_ to be a black box. :)
[06:10] <paradizelost> !mp3
[06:10] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:10] <redrum> that easy ubuntu script do mp3s?
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu: tell guest_amastudent about multiverse
[06:11] <tau> bdmp_: well I read a web-page that mentioned the space was particularly need in /var/cache/apt, so I moved that to another drive with about 3.5GBs free, and symlinked to it, and there is 800MB free on / so hopefully it should be ok
[06:11] <bdmp_> guest_amastudent: you need the mp3 codecs
[06:11] <Frogzoo> dick-richardson: or you can disable the passwd on the screensaver -> sys -> prefs -> screensaver
[06:11] <redrum> guest_amastudent,  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:11] <ToHellWithGA> guest_amastudent: once you enable universe and multiverse it gets pretty easy
[06:11] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, hey how come i dont have power management, do i enable it in syaptic
[06:11] <redrum> is also some scripts for all that
[06:12] <Chihork> BlueEagle: I see :) well, that could be a problem.  As soon as I figure out I don't need it for sure, I'm sure I'll be rid of it.
[06:12] <dick-richardson> there's no password on the screensaver, dapper is doing something else on lid switch activation. I don't want to disable the display from turning off, I just don't want to type a password when I open the lid - it doesn't make since since I have auto-login enabled
[06:12] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  I'm having troubles getting fluxbox to work.  I've installed fluxbox through Synaptic, and I've added the line "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox" to my .xsession file, but when I start fluxbox, I can't really do anything.  The right-click menu doesn't have any items, so I can't even start programs.
[06:13] <Jimmey__> You have to edit the menu yourself.
[06:13] <Jimmey__> !fluxbox
[06:13] <ubotu> fluxbox is probably a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[06:13] <AdmiralCrunch> WhatTheDeuce, edit your menu.rc
[06:13] <Jimmey__> Read the wiki, it's really helpful
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> Whatsisname, did you try starting "fluxbox-session"?
[06:13] <tam> hi all, having a problem with ssh forwarding for mail (im new to it) where abouts am i going wrong with this command: ssh -L 8025:otherserver.com:25
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> pppoe_dude: shame on you for highlighting the wrong guy
[06:14] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, how did you get powermanagement in preferences?
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> (i did the same thing last night)
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> WhatTheDeuce, did you try starting fluxbox-session?
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> :D
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> ToHellWithGA, both names pretty much same look
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> ToHellWithGA, 'rectangular' with all the caps and all
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, came with ubuntu
[06:15] <SurfnKid> man i dont have that
[06:16] <SurfnKid> actually, that was on here
[06:16] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: You're not an AO fixer that couldn't find/afford Grid Armor, are you? </ot>
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> ToHellWithGA, and also start with the same letter ;)
[06:16] <SurfnKid> then i installed dapper, and now put back Breezy. but when i initially had Breezy it was available i remember setting that
[06:16] <bdmp_> I did an upgrade and now my network device switched from eth0 to eth1 and I can't get it working. Newtork Settings says it is activated. But I still get nothing. Any suggestions?
[06:17] <ToHellWithGA> BlueEagle: come again?
[06:17] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: Apperantly not. :)
[06:17] <intelikey> obvioudly not
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, what i said wont disable the display turning off
[06:17] <intelikey> s
[06:17] <neoxan> s
[06:17] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do?
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, it will only not 'blank' the screen, thus not starting the screenlock
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> i'm not privy to your two letter acronym
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> !AO
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, the display would still switch off
[06:18] <ubotu> ToHellWithGA: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:18] <SurfnKid> Dapper is taking hours just to boot
[06:18] <SurfnKid> 30 minutes already
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> *should*
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> neither is ubotu.  doh.  BlueEagle what's ao?
[06:18] <neoxan> 60 minutes for me
[06:18] <neoxan> thats normal
[06:18] <neoxan> :)
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> 45 seconds here
[06:18] <neoxan> everyone else also got 30-60 minutes
[06:18] <satempler> 30 seconds here
[06:19] <intelikey> yeah about one minute
[06:19] <neoxan> haha, funny :/
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> SurfnKid: minutes?
[06:19] <AlienX> SurfnKid, wow, what kind of system are you running?
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> AlienX: he has an ENIAC i think
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> 80286
[06:19] <tau> hehe
[06:19] <AlienX> ToHellWithGA, ahhh
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> 64kb ram
[06:19] <intelikey> neoxan i wasn't being funny.  dapper boots in one minute on this box
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> he's running Ti-85 asm Ubuntu
[06:19] <satempler> ya relly my gf computer boots in about a minute
[06:20] <SurfnKid> First time boot PIII500Mhz
[06:20] <jimjawn> Hey All, First time caller long time listener.
[06:20] <jimjawn> Actually that's not true either.
[06:20] <jimjawn> I'm looking for a quick fix.
[06:20] <AlienX> SurfnKid, that should be plenty of speed
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> jimjawn, no such thing ;)
[06:20] <ToHellWithGA> jimjawn: your fix is ready
[06:20] <AlienX> jimjawn, cocaine? heroin?
[06:20] <jimjawn> Does anyone know what the command for the "show desktop" button is?
[06:20] <tau> bdmp_: well, it seems to have finished downloading..  now to see what happens next..
[06:20] <ray__> i have a question about video...
[06:20] <intelikey> SurfnKid p100mmx  boot in one minute
[06:20] <SurfnKid> AlienX, i can hear it reading the DVD
[06:20] <spikeb> bah
[06:21] <jimjawn> I want to assign it to an xbindkey but I can't figure out what its called
[06:21] <SurfnKid> intelikey, yea but its already installed
[06:21] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: you're probly swapping like mad - how much mem? dapper really needs at least 256meg
[06:21] <ray__> it seems i can no longer see video played on my computer
[06:21] <SurfnKid> this one is the first time boot
[06:21] <jimjawn> or what command I call
[06:21] <SurfnKid> 128MB
[06:21] <spikeb> hmm
[06:21] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: AO = anarchy online. massive multiplayer online role playing game. There is a professoin called a fixer that has got access to a special armor called Grid Armor. However this GA is rare and cost 20M-200M credits and many fixers do say ToHellWithGA :) </ot>
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> jimjawn: ctrl+alt+d
[06:21] <chapium> jimjawn: you should be able to change that using the keyboard prefs in gnome
[06:21] <jimjawn> man and dapper ROCKS R-O-C-K-S!
[06:21] <ray__> i dl'ed (bad bad i know) season one of lost and used to be able to watch it
[06:21] <ray__> now i can't
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> jimjawn: system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[06:21] <michel> hi all
[06:21] <AngryElf> what command starts the screen saver?
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> you can even bind something useful, such as "launch a terminal"
[06:21] <jadude> hello.. any Mono Developer here?
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> ray__, did u just install dapper?
[06:22] <AlienX> ray__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29
[06:22] <ray__> a few days ago
[06:22] <michel> got a prob: can't go further than gdm. X crashes when trying to login into my account. Can anyone assist?
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> ray__, you probably need to install new codecs
[06:22] <intelikey> AngryElf screens[tab]
[06:22] <ToHellWithGA> AngryElf: ctrl+alt+l will lock the screen
[06:22] <SurfnKid> Whoa, I can see the Taskbar!! its coming
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> ray__, follow link AlienX gave you
[06:22] <ray__> alienx, i've got automatix and got the restricted codecs
[06:22] <intelikey> or xscreens[tab]
[06:22] <ToHellWithGA> everyone is asking about keyboard shortcuts
[06:23] <ray__> oh, so that's for new codecs?
[06:23] <ToHellWithGA> i have a feeeling a lot of people come here before actually trying to help themselves
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do you get an error message?
[06:23] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ray__ about automatix
[06:23] <ray__> thanks, pppoe_dude and alienx
[06:23] <AlienX> ray__, np
[06:23] <Frogzoo> ToHellWithGA: b4 even trying google in some cases :-(
[06:23] <ray__> pppoe, no error
[06:23] <jimjawn> thanks guys, but I don't see a "show desktop" option in the keyboard prefs and ctrl+alt+d don't do it
[06:23] <Whoops> automatix is evil
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> ray__, blank screen?
[06:23] <ray__> just a blue video
[06:24] <AlienX> ray__, which apps are you using?
[06:24] <jimjawn> i agree automatix won't leave
[06:24] <ray__> totem
[06:24] <jimjawn> once you put it on
[06:24] <SurfnKid> intelikey, i have a P200MMX pc I dont need, want it? :P
[06:24] <AngryElf> intelikey, i don tknow what you mean
[06:24] <AlienX> ray__, try xine, it handles many more formats much better...or even mplayer
[06:24] <ToHellWithGA> Frogzoo: for serious.  when somebody asks a dumb question (yes they exist) i just retype their question after www.google.com/search?q=
[06:24] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try changing the default output device in system>preferences>multimedia
[06:24] <Frogzoo> how many songs tops in amarok b4 I should move from sql lite to mysql?
[06:24] <NoUse> ray__ did you install totem-xine?
[06:24] <ray__> can you use xine in gnome? i don't even know
[06:24] <intelikey> Frogzoo i always ask here befor trying google.   in fact i never consult google any more.
[06:24] <jadude> Anybody here knows if it is possible for Windows.Forms app to run in Mono on Linux?
[06:24] <pppoe_dude> oops
[06:24] <AlienX> ray__, totem is notorious for being rather picky :)
[06:25] <AlienX> ray__, of course you can...you can use most apps in gnome...or any other wm :)
[06:25] <NoUse> ray__ you can use mplayer or xine in gnome
[06:25] <ToHellWithGA> Frogzoo: how is amarok?
[06:25] <harry> how do i install nvidia drivers
[06:25] <Frogzoo> intelikey: yep, we've notice ;)
[06:25] <intelikey> SurfnKid sure.   but not enough to pay the freight on it.
[06:25] <NoUse> !tell harry about nvidia
[06:25] <jimjawn> actually ctr+alt+l did lock the screen.  Is my show desktop and XGL thing?
[06:25] <Frogzoo> ToHellWithGA: it's just extraordinary - really quite amazing once you get to know it
[06:25] <intelikey> Frogzoo but i never get the answer in here either, hehhe.
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> ray__, you can try 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine; if you wanna keep gnome clean ;)
[06:25] <ray__> i'll install totem-xine if i haven't yet
[06:25] <ToHellWithGA> i've been mostly happy with quod libet except i don't like the lack of flexibility on sorting
[06:25] <jimjawn> ugggh is the show desktop an XGL thing?
[06:26] <SurfnKid> intelikey, hehe was afraid we would get to that point
[06:26] <michel> got a prob: can't go further than gdm. X crashes when trying to login into my account. Can anyone assist?
[06:26] <ToHellWithGA> i should be able to file the soundtrack for "The Royal Tenenbaums" under Royal rather than The
[06:26] <intelikey> SurfnKid :)
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jimjawn, try running to and see if theres a process running when you keep pressing that button ;)
[06:26] <ray__> okay, i've got it.already newest version
[06:26] <Frogzoo> jimjawn: not at all - xgl is not even installed by default
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> *top
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> ray__, sounds like a problem with your output device.
[06:27] <intelikey> SurfnKid make your self an irc box out of it.   let it be the chat and the one you use now everything else.
[06:27] <ray__> output device?
[06:27] <pppoe_dude> ray__, there was a button for changing that in preferences... but its gone. im looking
[06:27] <jimjawn> actually yes, i completely forgot, I'm running X-bind keys (wanted to get my win key to work for shortcuts)
[06:27] <jimjawn> xbindkeys
[06:27] <jimjawn> that's what's grabbing the keystrokes.
[06:27] <SurfnKid> allright i got my power managemenet preferences back, it wasnt installed
[06:27] <intelikey> SurfnKid just the server install and a cli irc client of your choice
[06:28] <ray__> i feel like the problem started after i followed a tutorial the other night installing k9copy
[06:28] <jimjawn> Basically, i want to config xbindkeys to call the "show desktop" command when I press "win+d"
[06:28] <AlienX> ray__, out of curiosity, what happens if you try to run the videos directly in xine
[06:28] <ray__> but honestly i hadn't watched any lost episodes since i upgraded to dapper, so i don't know
[06:28] <SurfnKid> intelikey, yeah i could do that, its just old, heavy, and bulky, so i might do what you say on this PIII and sell the P200mmx.
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do any other videos work?
[06:28] <intelikey> SurfnKid heh then give it to some one that likes to irc....  :)
[06:28] <william__> does anyone know what applications this person is running? http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3822/244/1600/my_desktop.png
[06:28] <ray__> i'm looking in the applications menu and don't see xine
[06:29] <ray__> pppoe, no
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> ray__, run gstreamer-properties from a terminal
[06:29] <jimjawn> willima, that's gdesklets
[06:29] <SurfnKid> intelikey, thats true, i need to find someone, just not in this town, theyre not internet saavy
[06:29] <william__> thanks jimjawn
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> ray__, what doe it say under 'video| output'
[06:29] <ray__> okay, now what?
[06:30] <intelikey> SurfnKid you can still sell a p200mmx ? ! ? ! ? ! ???
[06:30] <ray__> Autodetect
[06:30] <nootrope> i'm using a no-name laptop with Dapper Drake and the Fn key doesn't work. Where can I fix that? Is there a standard key combination to enter international (Latin) characters?
[06:30] <SurfnKid> intelikey, hey man, its worth something! :P
[06:30] <AlienX> intelikey, $1 :)
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try choosing XV and see if anything happens with totem
[06:30] <eobanb> you'd have to pay me to take a pentium mmx
[06:30] <SurfnKid> eobanb, hehe
[06:30] <jimjawn> fun but hoggy IMHO http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[06:30] <AlienX> SurfnKid, you have a giant paperweight :)
[06:30] <jimjawn> whoops my battery is dead.  and I think I'm not online any more.
[06:30] <intelikey> SurfnKid sure it's still worth as much as it was new.  but who will give you anything for it ?
[06:30] <spikeb> jimjawn: i see you
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> ray__, or alternatively, click test
[06:30] <SurfnKid> i'll even throw in an HP 4p Scanner, weighing over 60lbs.  aaaheeem
[06:30] <AlienX> jimjawn, i think you still are online :)
[06:30] <ray__> the only choices i have are autodetect and custom
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> ray__, are you using gstreamer or xine?
[06:31] <SurfnKid> AlienX, nah, thats just nothing compared to the HP scanner, thats a boat anchor
[06:31] <AlienX> SurfnKid, heh, i still have an HP laserjet 4v printer...best printer i've ever owned
[06:31] <SurfnKid> intelikey, I should take it to mexico, :D
[06:31] <intelikey> :)
[06:31] <ray__> i copied/pasted what you gave me
[06:31] <ToHellWithGA> anybody care to join me in #music?  it's dead in there right now
[06:32] <AlienX> SurfnKid, even the mexicans will look at you and tell you to go away heh
[06:32] <SurfnKid> AlienX, yeah they were built better, I just dont know who will buy this big scanner, its the best ive owned
[06:32] <ray__> so... gstreamer
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> ray__, as your engine for totem, are you using gstreamer or xine?
[06:32] <SurfnKid> AlienX,  theyve gotten smart
[06:32] <dick-richardson> pppoe_dude: when I set it to do nothing, it does nothing when the lid switch is shut down
[06:32] <NoUse> ray__ since you isntall totem-xine, you are using xine
[06:32] <ray__> okay for the test video i get the test bars and snow in the bottom right corner
[06:32] <SurfnKid> intelikey, maybe a friend who needs it, that doesnt have a  PC, and do my good deed of the day
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do you want to try to switch to gstreamer?
[06:33] <intelikey> there ya go
[06:33] <ray__> sure. can't hurt can it?
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> ray__, "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer"
[06:33] <AlienX> nope :)
[06:33] <SurfnKid> intelikey, ill be even nicer and throw in ubuntu so they become ANTi-MS
[06:33] <harry> i cant install any of my packages.
[06:33] <Whoops> bbl.........need food
[06:33] <harry> ive just installed ubuntu
[06:34] <AlienX> harry, why?
[06:34] <dick-richardson> i'm on the laptop now...I set the display to do nothing when the lid switch is closed. when I close the lid switch, the display stays active
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> ray__, then "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:34] <michel> got a prob: can't go further than gdm. X crashes when trying to login into my account. Can anyone assist?
[06:34] <harry> i dont know, i dont even have the software properties yet
[06:35] <AlienX> harry, do you get an error when you try to install a package?
[06:35] <kurei> hi, my screen disappears after logging off or switching user on ubuntu 6.06, does anyone have a fix for this?
[06:35] <SurfnKid> dick-richardson, maybe the switch is bad?
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, is your laptop old?
[06:35] <harry> no
[06:35] <dick-richardson> it's a 600m inspiron from dell
[06:35] <ray__> my computer is a dinosaur. it's still working on installing totem-gstreamer
[06:35] <idcard> woo hoo!
[06:35] <harry> AlienX: they just say couldnt find packages
[06:35] <SurfnKid> dick-richardson, whoa thats like mine
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> ray__, lol
[06:35] <idcard> i figured out my boot problem
[06:35] <phrowzen> hey
[06:35] <AlienX> harry, in synaptic?
[06:35] <dick-richardson> the lid switch works when I enable it in power management
[06:35] <phrowzen> does anyone nkow how i might set the minimum # of windows that spawn from a parent application before gnome groups it?
[06:35] <ray__> finally got to the plugins
[06:35] <harry> AlienX: the package i'm trying to install is mplayer
[06:36] <SurfnKid> dick-richardson,  but just stays on when you close it
[06:36] <dick-richardson> I appreciate that, just don't want to type that password in when I opne it again
[06:36] <ray__> done
[06:36] <harry> AlienX: i cant install it
[06:36] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do ?
[06:36] <idcard> now its time to get mythtv running
[06:36] <AlienX> harry, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[06:36] <AlienX> harry, and tell me what it says
[06:36] <menisk> can can ubutnu breezy take jre
[06:36] <AlienX> menisk, yes
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> ray__, did you install the dirty set?
[06:36] <ray__> pppoe_dude, yes
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> ray__, now try totem
[06:36] <harry> AlienX: E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[06:36] <kurei> hi, my screen disappears after logging off or switching user on ubuntu 6.06, does anyone have a fix for this?
[06:37] <AlienX> harry, do you know how to use vi?
[06:37] <william__> If I start messing with Gdesklets am I gonna regret it like I do when I screw around with my windows desktop?
[06:37] <menisk> AlienX, how do i use a self extracting rpm
[06:37] <spikeb> william__: no
[06:37] <harry> actually this is the second time i reinstalled ubuntu
[06:37] <spikeb> william__: you can just remove the package and delete the config
[06:37] <harry> AlienX: the first time i installed it. someone helped to edit the source.list if i recall it properly
[06:37] <AlienX> menisk, you can't because this isn't an rpm distro. You'll need to use the tar.gz file.
[06:37] <Frogzoo> !tell menisk about java
[06:37] <william__> does it tie itself to anything important spikeb
[06:38] <dick-richardson> So, the lid switch turns the display off when it's enabled, but asks for a password when I open it again. When I disable it, it doesn't turn the display off at all
[06:38] <ray__> now all i get is a black screen
[06:38] <spikeb> william__: as far as i know, no
[06:38] <AlienX> harry, yeah...one sec, i'll give you a nifty link
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> harry, you need to enable the multiverse repositories
[06:38] <Frogzoo> menisk: yes, but the install is a little more complex - see ubotu's pm
[06:38] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do?
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> ray__, is that with lost or any video?
[06:38] <AlienX> harry, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:38] <ray__> lost. it's an avi
[06:38] <menisk> AlienX, I can i use a bin file?
[06:38] <AlienX> menisk, yup
[06:38] <menisk> how do i use it
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try another video
[06:39] <harry> pppoe_dude: how do i enable the multiverse repositories
[06:39] <billybennett> haha I just realized I had 2 sessions open of xchat :P
[06:39] <AlienX> menisk, just follow the directions on the java site. you'll have to do something like "chmod a+x *.bin" and then "./*.bin"
[06:39] <dick-richardson> harry: try ubuntuguide.org
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> ray__, also, try "apt-get install gstreamer0.10-sdl" then go back to gstreamer-properties and choose "sdl" as output and see if it helps
[06:39] <santiagokq> AlienX: he can also get java from the official non-free repositories
[06:39] <ray__> pppoe_dude, still black
[06:40] <kurei> hi, how can i return back to my desktop after using ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[06:40] <AlienX> santiagokq, i don't know the process for anything other than dapper so if you can help him with breezy, that'd be great
[06:40] <phrowzen> does anyone nkow how i might set the minimum # of windows that spawn from a parent application before gnome groups it?
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> harry, you can do it either from synaptic (Settings -> repositories), or by removing the '#' sign from infront of lines that say "#deb" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <wweasel> Hey, is anyone here familiar with getting a Logitech MX500 or MX700 to work in ubuntu (thumb buttons)?
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> ray__, that's with sdl as the output device?
[06:40] <ray__> no, just another vid
[06:40] <dick-richardson> just removing the # from in front of the deb designations doesn't enable multiverse
[06:40] <santiagokq> AlienX: he's trying to install sun java on breezy?
[06:40] <eobanb> !buttons
[06:40] <ubotu> eobanb: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:41] <AlienX> santiagokq, correct
[06:41] <dick-richardson> you have to manually add "multiverse" after the universe specifications in dapper
[06:41] <santiagokq> AlienX: ok
[06:41] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try gstreamer0.10-sdl and set it as the output device and see if it helps
[06:41] <intelikey> late
[06:41] <santiagokq> menisk: i don't know if sun java is in the official non-free repos for breezy
[06:41] <ray__> okay installed it, and changed to sdl
[06:41] <santiagokq> menisk: let me check
[06:41] <kurei> hi, how can i return back to my desktop after using ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[06:42] <pppoe_dude> ray__, anything?
[06:42] <AlienX> kurei, just have to log back in through gdm. When you do ctrl + alt +bksp, it restarts the display manager completely.
[06:42] <ray__> nope....
[06:42] <ijeff_> yay imma go hunting for calc apps
[06:42] <ray__> still black :(
[06:42] <wweasel> Hey, is anyone here familiar with getting a Logitech MX500 or MX700 to work in ubuntu (thumb buttons)?
[06:42] <ray__> i can hear it just fine
[06:42] <kurei> AlienX, so i have to reboot?
[06:42] <billybennett> wweasel, I'd like to know that also I have a G5
[06:43] <AlienX> ray__, do you have avifile installed?
[06:43] <AlienX> kurei, nope
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try running totem from the command line and see if it gives any errors
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> ray__, when you play files
[06:43] <ray__> type totem?
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> ray__, yes
[06:43] <santiagokq> menisk: is java 1.4 enough or you *absolutely* need 1.5?
[06:43] <kurei> AlienX, so how do i log back in?
[06:44] <AlienX> kurei, what screen do you see?
[06:44] <menisk> santiagokq, 1.4 will do
[06:44] <wweasel> billybennett: I am working off two different sets of instructions. One is super complicated: http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html The other very simple: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/47579
[06:44] <santiagokq> menisk: great then
[06:44] <harry> AlienX: what do i do with source.list that i just generated???
[06:44] <santiagokq> menisk: java 1.4 is in the official multiverse repositories
[06:44] <wweasel> Billybennett: I am trying the simple one first, obviously :)
[06:44] <billybennett> ooo thank you wweasel I'll bookmark those for later
[06:44] <santiagokq> menisk: do you have the multiverse repos enabled?
[06:44] <kurei> AlienX, the console
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do you get any weird messages after you play the file?
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> ray__, in the terminal window
[06:45] <ray__> i need to type totem <path/to/file/filename> don't i
[06:45] <menisk> santiagokq, yes
[06:45] <pppoe_dude> ray__, either that or just totem
[06:45] <billybennett> how would I find out versions of particular things.... for example xorg
[06:45] <santiagokq> menisk: good then search for j2re
[06:45] <harry> AlienX: what command do i use to edit my sources.list using terminal
[06:45] <santiagokq> menisk: you should find blackdown java
[06:45] <kurei> AlienX, no gui... just the console
[06:45] <pppoe_dude> harry, try vim <filename>
[06:45] <kjon> I need to capture a screenshot with a paused video on ubuntu. How can I do that? Everytime I press PrintScreen I get the shot, but with a black box instead the video.
[06:45] <santiagokq> menisk: it's a semi-official package built by third parties, from official sun sources
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> harry, press a to start typing, and press <esc> :wq to save and exit
[06:46] <AlienX> harry, open a terminal and do "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && vi ~/sources.list" then do "sudo cp ~/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:46] <wweasel> Anyone, how do I exit a man file?
[06:46] <AlienX> harry, one sec and i'll tell you what to do and how to use vi
[06:46] <spikeb> wweasel: press q or escape
[06:46] <ray__> pppoe_dude, yes lot's of errors
[06:46] <TigerWolf> q
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> wweasel, :q
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> ray__, such as...
[06:46] <wweasel> thx :)
[06:46] <cyphase> does anyone know of a dashboard/widgets type thing for linux in the works?
[06:46] <cyphase> besides gdesklets
[06:46] <AlienX> kurei, login as yourself then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> ray__, can you paste in a pastebin?
[06:46] <cyphase> which kind of sucks
[06:47] <ray__> (totem:27767): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_get_property: object class `GstSDLVideoSink' has no property named `pixel-aspect-ratio'
[06:47] <ray__> (totem:27767): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strcasecmp: assertion `s1 != NULL' failed
[06:47] <kurei> AlienX, thank you
[06:47] <menisk> ray__, are you having trouble setting up pppoe?
[06:47] <ray__> (totem:27767): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_value_fraction_multiply: assertion `G_MAXINT / ABS (d1) >= ABS (d2)' failed
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> ray__, paste them in a pastebin
[06:47] <AlienX> harry, when you are using vi, press the insert key and paste everything into the file then do ":wq" to quit and save. I'm sure there is an easier way to do it but I don't know any of the gui tools to do it
[06:47] <ray__> what's that url again?
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell ray about pastebin
[06:47] <TigerWolf> ray__:
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> ray__, and, also, paste everything
[06:47] <luc1fersflowers> Good eve,morn,noon all
[06:47] <TigerWolf> ray__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:48] <SurfnKid> whoa
[06:48] <SurfnKid> i put my hdd to sleep
[06:48] <jojoman02> how to i make my power button shut down my computer?
[06:48] <jojoman02> instead of displaying the shutdown (restart logout etc) menu....
[06:48] <valehru> How can I unrar files in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <SurfnKid> System > Preferences > Power Preferences
[06:49] <luc1fersflowers> Does anyone know how to remove disk icons from ubuntu's desktop
[06:49] <TigerWolf> valehru: You get the rar package
[06:49] <santiagokq> menisk: if you need sun java 1.5, i think it's in dapper multiverse, and if you're on breezy just add the plf repos: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/
[06:49] <AlienX> valehru, check my response in the other channel :)
[06:49] <harry> AlienX: whats the command to use vi
[06:49] <ray__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15436
[06:49] <TigerWolf> valehru: Hold on ill get the command
[06:49] <jojoman02> SurfnKid: that is only for hibernate button, not power button
[06:49] <SurfnKid> mmm
[06:49] <AlienX> harisund, "vi <name of new file>"
[06:49] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do ?
[06:49] <neoxan> nano"
[06:49] <AlienX> harry, ^
[06:49] <Fr0Gs> hey all how do i get multiple sounds to work like i can't listen to music while teamspeak is running etc...
[06:49] <luc1fersflowers> anyone know how to remove disk icons from desktop without unmounting?
[06:49] <harry> AlienX: yep
[06:50] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, I was talking about power button, not hibernate
[06:50] <santiagokq> menisk: are you there?  did you try my suggestions?
[06:50] <harry> AlienX: what command
[06:50] <wweasel> billybennett, are you still around?
[06:50] <AlienX> harry, then you press the "insert" key on your keyboard to insert everything
[06:50] <Fr0Gs> hey all how do i get multiple sounds to work like i can't listen to music while teamspeak is running etc...
[06:50] <valehru> AlienX, better off in here, on x64
[06:50] <TigerWolf> valehru: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_RAR_Archiver_.28rar.29
[06:50] <Where|away> Does anyone know of any good macro recording and playback programs for X? (I tried xmacro, but I couldn't get it to work)
[06:50] <ray__> pppoe_dude, just so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15436
[06:50] <pppoe_dude> ray__, can you try and setting the output to XV again and see if you get any errors?
[06:50] <hollowlife1987> harry: the command is 'vi <filename>'
[06:50] <Toma-> has anyone been able to get Savage running on dapper?
[06:50] <harry> AlienX: i mean the command to launch the VI. coz i dont know what VI is
[06:50] <Where|away> Fr0Gs: do you have esd running?
[06:50] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, i'm saying there is no power button option to change the default action, the only option is to change action for the hibernate button (i am using a desktop, no use there)
[06:50] <valehru> TigerWolf, thanks
[06:50] <TigerWolf> np valehru
[06:50] <neoxan> is there esd in dapper?
[06:50] <AlienX> harry, vi is an editor. one sec
[06:51] <valehru> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[06:51] <cyphase> neovan, yes
[06:51] <valehru> gah
[06:51] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, oh I see, you have 2 buttons
[06:51] <cyphase> neoxan, yes
[06:51] <neoxan> :)
[06:51] <SurfnKid> hdparm is my friend!!
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> harry, vim or vi followed by /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <wweasel> billybennett: I can confirm i got the mouse buttons to work. Don't bother with the complicated thing with Xorg and everything. All it takes is installing imwheel and making a file with the text contained on the bugpage
[06:51] <harry> AlienX: i just pasted the code
[06:51] <AlienX> pppoe_dude, is there a graphical text editor i could tell harry to use in gnome? I think trying to give him a crash course in vi may take some effort
[06:51] <AlienX> harry, in vi?
[06:51] <harry> AlienX: how do i save it
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> AlienX, harry gedit
[06:51] <harry> yes
[06:51] <AlienX> harry, hit "escape" and then type :wq <enter>
[06:51] <ray__> pppoe_dude, it has XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)
[06:52] <harry> AlienX: yes
[06:52] <ray__> is that the one?
[06:52] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, no i just have my power button, which currently brings up the menu, i want to change that to shutting down directly instead of having it bring up the menu...
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> harry, run sudo gedit from command line
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> ray__, only 2 options are there + custom?
[06:52] <valehru> updating the repos...that might do the trick
[06:52] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do?
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> ray__, yes, try that one first
[06:52] <luc1fersflowers> is there a channel for gde support?
[06:53] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, I thought power management did that
[06:53] <harry> AlienX: nothing happend when i hit enter
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> ray__,  and let me know if you get errors too
[06:53] <harry> AlienX: and the wq press enter also nothing happend
[06:53] <ray__> i get a black screen
[06:53] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, not sure where you can look there are a few power management proggys
[06:53] <iiiears> !channels
[06:53] <ubotu> For a list of Freenode channels try http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[06:53] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, in windows it does, i dunno about kde, but gnome doesnt...
[06:53] <Rajuu> hey guys.. is there any way to change my videos bpp without restarting X? or from within X even?
[06:53] <AlienX> harry, did you press the escape key first?
[06:53] <harry> yes
[06:53] <tau> does anyone know when/if there will be an update to kernel <IP_ADDRESS> or newer in dapper?
[06:53] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, mm weird
[06:53] <planetcall> hiya pppoe_dude .... system is reinstalling and I am chatting on IRC on same machine ! isnt it incredible
[06:53] <AlienX> hmm...
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> harry, you need a colon before the letters (and make sure you are in action mode by pressing esc
[06:53] <harry> ive run the sudo gedit on the command line
[06:53] <AlienX> harry, try using gedit instead. it's graphical and a bit easier to use :)
[06:53] <hollowlife1987> harry: in the console type 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:54] <harry> AlienX: i'm in the gedit now
[06:54] <pppoe_dude> harry, that is probably a better idea, just try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:54] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, cool
[06:54] <planetcall> ext3fs this time
[06:54] <AlienX> harry, sweet...that should be much easier to use until you learn vi (if you have any aspirations to do so)
[06:54] <Rajuu> hey guys.. is there any way to change my videos bpp without restarting X? or from within X even?
[06:54] <pppoe_dude> ray__, any luck?
[06:54] <armenb> hi
[06:55] <Rajuu> trying to run something in wine and it says it cant switch from 32 bit to 16 bit
[06:55] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, i found it, you gotta you gconf-editor
[06:55] <jojoman02> the key  -  /apps/gnome-power-manager/action_button_power
[06:55] <armenb> what's the "correct" way to upgrade to versions of packages that aren't in my current release?
[06:56] <ray__> pppoe_dude, i can only get the test video to display if i select XWindows (No Xv)
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> armenb, no correct way
[06:56] <armenb> hm.
[06:56] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, funny it doesn't seem to be in the GUI but there is a key for it, i'm gonna file a bug
[06:56] <trace_samples916> Hello
[06:56] <armenb> dapper has a really old version of mythtv
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try selecting that and then playing video from command line
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> armenb, you can install it, however it might break other packages
[06:56] <ray__> okay, hold on
[06:56] <jojoman02> armenb, file a bug:P...
[06:57] <armenb> jojoman02 - wait, what? seriously?
[06:57] <trace_samples916> Does anyone know how to config a dhcp connection for terminal?
[06:57] <pppoe_dude> armenb, e.g. if it depends on newer versions of other things..
[06:57] <mjbjr> Rajuu: iirc, any resolution that X has been configured to run in can be accessed via the Ctrl-(Alt?)-Keypad-'+'/'-'
[06:57] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, yeah
[06:57] <AlienX> trace_samples916, what do you mean?
[06:57] <Rajuu> mjbjr: but what about bitrates?
[06:57] <armenb> is there a way to revert back to a previous package installation state?
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> armenb, you can always type 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:58] <mjbjr> Rajuu: that bpp's are part of those resolution configs
[06:58] <trace_samples916> AlienX: I uninstall gnome by mistake, now boot to terminal
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> armenb, that will revert the packages needed for ubuntu to be stable again - in case
[06:58] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, what section in gconf is it in
[06:58] <Rajuu> mjbjr: Is there a less hit and miss approach? heh
[06:58] <AlienX> trace_samples916, so you want to get a dhcp lease in terminal?
[06:58] <trace_samples916> AlienX: yes
[06:58] <ray__> pppoe_dude, awesome! that worked
[06:58] <armenb> hm! cool. i'll keep that in mind.
[06:58] <AlienX> trace_samples916, "dhclient <ethx>
[06:58] <Rajuu> mjbjr: I need to actually know what im in too
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> ray__, cool :)
[06:59] <ray__> so what does that mean for me?
[06:59] <pppoe_dude> ray__, just make sure you keep gstreamer setup to use that
[06:59] <AlienX> trace_samples916, err, no quote
[06:59] <ray__> Thanks so much!!!
[06:59] <ray__> wish we had a way to mod folks up
[06:59] <pppoe_dude> ray__, no problem
[06:59] <luc1fersflowers> anyone know how to remove disk icons from desktop without unmounting?
[06:59] <blyloveranger> Is there anything I can do if I accidentally borked one of my ext3 partitions by moving its starting block?
[06:59] <ray__> or give a few karma points
[06:59] <armenb> so i've usually been a debian user.  is "dapper" the new "stable"?
[07:00] <spikeb> armenb: yes
[07:00] <mjbjr> Rajuu: there's nothing hit or miss about it... your X is either config'd for the resolutions you want/need or it's not, in which case you have to reconfigure and restart X.
[07:00] <armenb> is there a "testing" and "unstable" too?
[07:00] <Healot> in ubuntu, nay
[07:00] <Healot> that's Debian's releases
[07:00] <trace_samples916> AlienX: I have a passworded wireless network
[07:00] <trace_samples916> AlienX: will that work?
[07:00] <AlienX> armenb, there is only a testing/unstable (it's not really the same as debian).
[07:00] <AlienX> trace_samples916, yup...here's what you do...
[07:01] <spikeb> testing and unstable are basically the same branch at different times in ubuntu
[07:01] <armenb> does the current test/unstable have a static name?
[07:01] <AlienX> trace_samples916, iwconfig ethX essid <ssid> key <key> && dhclient ethX
[07:01] <AlienX> armenb, edgy
[07:01] <bdmp_> I did an upgrade and now my network device switched from eth0 to eth1 and I can't get it working. Any suggestions?
[07:02] <bdmp_> look at this http://pastebin.ca/63506
[07:02] <armenb> cool.
[07:02] <armenb> do any of you run edgy? :-P
[07:02] <AlienX> armenb, it's not like sid where it's never stable...it's more like mandrake where it's cooker, and when cooker is stable, it's the release. Edgy has only been out for a day or two so no one is really using it yet
[07:02] <tau> bdmp_: uh-oh, it's quit with an error! - Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:02] <armenb> is it fairly "stable", or are there major broken packages every day?
[07:03] <hollowlife1987> armenb: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for edgy, in the topic of that channel it says not to use edgy untill the startup problems are resolved
[07:03] <AlienX> armenb, check what I just said. You can get more information in #ubuntu+1
[07:03] <armenb> HEH. ok if there are startup problems, i probably *definitely* don't want to be using edgy.
[07:03] <planetcall> just a wild question ... does linux offer sytem restore  i.e. switching back to previous system state(s) or to create new system states ?
[07:04] <AlienX> planetcall, not like windows
[07:04] <bdmp_> I don't know. Phrase the question so others can help with the problem
[07:04] <varsendaggr> anyone want to be part of a render farm?
[07:04] <planetcall> AlienX  how exactly then ?
[07:04] <acke_> hey how do i transfer files to another ubuntu computer on my network?
[07:04] <varsendaggr> http://eleaf.no-ip.org/
[07:04] <AlienX> planetcall, actually, not really at all though you can do backups and revert to those.
[07:04] <AlienX> acke_, ssh or ftp are probably your best bets
[07:05] <FunnyLookinHat> acke_, nah, samba is best way...
[07:05] <acke_> alienX are ssh enabled on ubuntu 6.10?
[07:05] <FunnyLookinHat> !samba
[07:05] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:05] <acke_> huuh
[07:05] <acke_> ??
[07:05] <tau> Anyone: I was just in the middle of upgrading to Dapper, and got this error -- Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).  What do I do now??
[07:05] <planetcall> AlienX, i guessed that. It is probably the only feature I found in windows not having any counterpart in linux
[07:05] <AlienX> acke_, apt-get install openssh  (i think)
[07:05] <AlienX> planetcall, there really isn't a reason to do it in linux
[07:05] <drummer87> hey, how can i turn off the popup tooltips in the update-notifier? they're crashing XGL...
[07:06] <AlienX> planetcall, you're not going to get viruses in linux and all your personal files are in your home directory
[07:06] <iiiears> acke - ISSH is i think used by some applictions. aren't they?  was wondering the same thing.
[07:06] <planetcall> hehe true !
[07:06] <drummer87> i remember seeing a setting back using hoary or early breezy, but can't remember, been using dapper too long
[07:06] <iiiears> SSH
[07:06] <Mistiry> Hi...I just installed ubuntu, my question is is it possible to use my wireless ethernet card?
[07:06] <AlienX> Mistiry, yes
[07:07] <AlienX> ubotu, tell Mistiry about wireless
[07:07] <planetcall> I just reinstalled a new OS on this sytem while chatting on IRC :)
[07:07] <raym7> I tried to install ubuntu to dual boot with windows, grub gave an "error 18" because the boot partition wasn't in the first 1024, I restored mbr with Windows fixmbr, but can no longer access the windows partion that was originally split to make room for linux. I tried mounting this partition in ubuntu live cd, but it gives an error saying it is the wrong fs type (yet linux fdisk shows it as NTFS), I can mount my other NTFS partitions.
[07:07] <planetcall> Dapper rocks !
[07:07] <mjbjr> planetcall: you might be able to image the drive with 'dd'
[07:07] <drummer87> planetcall: yes, yes it does
[07:07] <Mistiry> i just requested dapper...im on hedgehog now...old version :(
[07:08] <planetcall> time to reboot to physical disk !
[07:08] <acke_> alienx how do i set up the sshserver?
[07:08] <AlienX> Mistiry, heh, i can't help you with older versions as I don't know anything about them :)
[07:08] <AlienX> acke_, apt-get install openssh-server
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> acke_, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:08] <acke_> alienx ts installed
[07:09] <acke_> Alienx just cant find the man page for it
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, now you just have to use ssh or scp to transfer files
[07:09] <acke_> alienx so its set up auto?
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, man ssh  or man scp :)
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, it should have started the server after the install
[07:09] <acke_> alienx yeah its running thanks
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, sweet!
[07:10] <AlienX> acke_, are you trying to transfer entire directories or what?
[07:10] <acke_> alienx yes
[07:10] <acke_> alienx no only one fiel
[07:10] <acke_> alienx one file
[07:10] <acke_> alienx so now im on this computer from the other one. how do i put a file here?
[07:11] <AlienX> acke_, ok so what you do is: scp <file> user@host:location at host
[07:11] <raym7> I can mount other ntfs partitions, but not the ntfs one that ubuntu installer resized, I cannot access it under windows, nor mount in in linux, any ideas?
[07:11] <acke_> alienx thanks
[07:11] <farous> acke_: if you need to connect to that other pc frequently usign a gui you can set natilus to do that
[07:11] <AlienX> acke_, ok...from the other computer to yours you do: scp user@host:path/to/remote/file /path/to/local/directory/
[07:12] <snoops> hey - I want to format a pen drive in ubuntu as ntfs can I do that or will I have to use a windows box to format it as ntfs?
[07:12] <Mistiry> ok...ndiswrapper...no idea how to use...but im tired, so i will be back probably tomorrow for help...thank you for a great OS! :)
[07:12] <drummer87> noone knows how to turn those speech-bubble tooltips off?
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> snoops, windows box
[07:12] <snoops> k
[07:12] <AlienX> acke_, definitely take farous's suggestion too. I don't use GUI stuff any more than i have to so his suggestion may be easier for you.
[07:12] <menisk> can ubuntu 5.10 run limewire?
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> menisk, get gtk-gnutella
[07:13] <makko> when i install a package, how do i also automatically uninstall all libs (and other deps) that were necessary only for that package?
[07:13] <makko> when i UNinstall a package, how do i also automatically uninstall all libs (and other deps) that were necessary only for that package?
[07:13] <lwizardl> menisk, yes but i have had issues in the past with that app
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> menisk, it "can" but it's not officially supported
[07:13] <stevekl> makko: apt-get remove --purge blahblah
[07:13] <tau> well, I've now run apt-get -f install, god knows if that's going to totally fry my installation or what
[07:13] <farous> makko: you can use aptitude for installing and when you remove it wil take care of that for you
[07:13] <menisk> pppoe_dude, does it have errors?
[07:14] <makko> farous: aptitude does that automatically??
[07:14] <makko> farous: that'd be cool
[07:14] <pppoe_dude> menisk, i haven't tried it in a while, but gtk-gnutella can do what limewire does and more
[07:14] <farous> makko: it does
[07:14] <tau> not that it seems anyone is listening :(
[07:14] <pppoe_dude> tau, apt-get -f install will tell you what its doing
[07:14] <menisk> pppoe_dude, is gtk-gnutella a package
[07:14] <makko> stevekl: i think --purge only removes config files
[07:14] <SurfnKid> any way to control the laptop fans
[07:14] <SurfnKid> other than lm-sensors
[07:14] <Cornellius> pppoe_dude: I love giFT :)
[07:14] <acke_> alienx thanks
[07:14] <AlienX> acke_, np :)
[07:14] <pppoe_dude> menisk, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[07:15] <SurfnKid> by method of cli to speed up the fan, standby, timeout or slowdown?
[07:15] <makko> farous: what if i use synaptic for installation and aptitude for uninstallation?
[07:15] <stevekl> makko: ohh yeah, you're right. How about deborphan?
[07:15] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, you can try scaling CPU
[07:15] <farous> makko: you have to use it for both
[07:16] <makko> farous: i see... so aptitude is just smarter.
[07:16] <farous> makko: there is a filter in synaptic though that will display unused packages
[07:16] <lwizardl> hi
[07:16] <tau> pppoe_dude: yes, it is, but since the upgrade process quit with an error, I have no idea what it's actually doing.  Most of what it tells you is pretty arcane :p
[07:16] <stevekl> makko: deborphan "finds orphaned libraries" apparently
[07:16] <menisk> thanks pppoe_dude
[07:16] <makko> stevekl: thank you, i will use that one too
[07:16] <tau> I can't say I'm terribly impressed with dapper so far..  :(
[07:16] <bdmp_> what are the commands to call the network up and down?
[07:16] <chennaituxian> tau: why ?
[07:16] <AlienX> tau, what are you having a problem with?
[07:17] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, thanks im installing it
[07:17] <bdmp_> I have no network! t
[07:17] <chennaituxian> bdmp_: ifup and ufdown
[07:17] <bdmp_> that is a problem with dapper
[07:17] <makko> farous: i don't find that filter in synaptic
[07:17] <AlienX> bdmp_, ifup ethX ; ifdown ethSX
[07:17] <chennaituxian> ifdown*
[07:17] <AlienX> errr
[07:17] <tau> I'm trying to upgrade to it!  but I seem to be having no end of problems doing so
[07:17] <lwizardl> can someone help me with a couple of things on setting ubuntu linux up as a webserver. should I put hostname as localhost or will this cuase issues with apt-get or something else
[07:17] <makko> farous: does it depend on having installed deborphan?
[07:17] <AlienX> bdmp_, s/ifdown ethSX/ifdown ethX
[07:17] <chennaituxian> tau: throw more light
[07:17] <iiiears> Surfinkid - poke arouind in /etc/init.d the config files there can edit anything in your system. - It makes the Windows registry seem tame by comparision so be conservative. - else a quick google for a fan control app will do it.
[07:17] <farous> tau: give it time. i had the same opinion but now i know it is because i did an upgrade. to many rediments
[07:17] <tau> linux is so damned frustrating, I think I would be better off with a Mac
[07:18] <makko> tau: why is it frustrating?
[07:18] <AlienX> tau, apt-get dist-upgrade...pretty easy
[07:18] <chennaituxian> lwizardl: apt-get apache2
[07:18] <stevekl> lwizardl: Put hostname as localhost where?
[07:18] <farous> makko: never used it. the filter i told you about is in custom bottom
[07:18] <bdmp_> because your network just doesn't work for like hours
[07:18] <AlienX> tau, were you using breezy?
[07:18] <uXp> anyone know how to install winamp on ubuntu?
[07:18] <SurfnKid> tau, um linux? i thought mac was grab-your-dads-gun-and-shoot-yourself kind of frustrating
[07:18] <tau> not so easy when it quits with an error -- Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).
[07:18] <AlienX> uXp, apt-get install xmms
[07:18] <uXp> besides xmms
[07:18] <_smd_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <AlienX> uXp, winamp is for windows...hence the name
[07:18] <_smd_> oops
[07:18] <uXp> ive seen ppl using winamp on linux
[07:18] <tau> yes, I was using breezy
[07:18] <lwizardl> stevekl, doing system install
[07:19] <uXp> yes i know ^
[07:19] <iiiears> Surfinkid - OSS is the way luke... - grin
[07:19] <chennaituxian> tau: try daper
[07:19] <tau> uhhh, that's what I'm trying to upgrade to!
[07:19] <stevekl> lwizardl: oh...no, that doesn't matter, just name it whatever
[07:19] <AlienX> uXp, i highly doubt you've seen someone use winamp in linux...i guess it's possible though through wine...not sure why you'd want to
[07:19] <uXp> what about wine > winamp?
[07:19] <lwizardl> stevekl, chennaituxian, I'm doing this as a fresh install
[07:19] <farous> tau have you used the update manager
[07:19] <uXp> hmm
[07:19] <stevekl> lwizardl: It won't hurt anything to name it whatever you want
[07:19] <tau> yes, but it quit with some arcane error
[07:19] <chennaituxian> uXp: wine is also good, but xmms is more like winamp
[07:20] <lwizardl> stevekl, ok thanks
[07:20] <uXp> tried it i get some messed up error but ive seen ppl with it
[07:20] <stevekl> tau: if you still get that error even after apt-get update, then there's something wrong with the remove apt server, not on your end
[07:20] <tomsdimension101> hello is anybody there?
[07:20] <tau> *shrug*
[07:20] <chennaituxian> tomsdimension101: we are here
[07:20] <tomsdimension101> does anybody know a good fs to use for a usb 320gb harddrive that is compatible with linux and windows?
[07:21] <trace_sample916> AlienX: hi try to enter the command you gave me and is errors on the dhclient part
[07:21] <tau> it's all greek to me
[07:21] <tomsdimension101> preferably not ntfs
[07:21] <uXp> how do you add the trashcan to your desktop?
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, ext3
[07:21] <SurfnKid> iiiears, OSS?
[07:21] <trace_sample916> AlienX: say its unrecognised
[07:21] <iiiears> chennaituxian: Have you tried strewamtuner or even better streamripper >> XMMS? record mp3s to your disk.
[07:21] <x-Dieu> Howdy world :)
[07:21] <tomsdimension101> ppoe_dude, no because i'd have to install the windows driver every time i want to acccess that harddrive on a windoze puter
[07:21] <iiiears> OSS Open Source software.
[07:22] <eNons3nse> having a problem trying to connect a 2nd HD.  its a SATA drive and when I connect the SATA card & drive it hangs at "Mounting Root File System" then eventually says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist"
[07:22] <chennaituxian> uXp: add it to ur panel
[07:22] <uXp> i know how to do that i want it on my desktop
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, then fat32
[07:22] <SurfnKid> iiiears, oh right, definitely
[07:23] <chennaituxian> uXp: wastebin is also a folder, try to create a sym link
[07:23] <tomsdimension101> ppoe_dude, well fat32 wont work on large harddrives
[07:23] <trace_sample916> AlienX: any ideas?
[07:23] <uXp> how do i do that?
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, lol. i suggest ext3 and just installing drivers
[07:23] <SurfnKid> iiiears, ever since ive been on ubuntu im a bit more at peace with myself, i just dont know why, i can breath a bit better when it comes to manipulating hardware
[07:23] <eNons3nse> uXp: there is an option in configuration editor for that i believe.
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> "drivers"
[07:23] <uXp> and that is?
[07:23] <makko> farous: my synaptic / custom / search filter  shows... all the packages available in apt-get
[07:23] <farous> uXp: gconf-editor scroll down to nautilus > desktop and check the trash icon
[07:23] <eNons3nse> uXp: one sec.  let me double check.
[07:24] <iiiears> Surfinkid. - It just feels right. Everyone gives something back to the community.
[07:24] <farous> makko: give me a min i am till i run my super user account
[07:24] <makko> farous: sure, thank you.
[07:25] <trace_sample916> AlienX: hello?
[07:25] <tomsdimension101> pppoe_dude, well some computers are locked out from install applicatons
[07:25] <uXp> ok
[07:25] <eNons3nse> uXp: what he said.  in terminal "gconf-editor" then apps > nautilus > desktop > trash icon visible
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, i would partition the harddisk into smaller pieces, then format them with fat32
[07:25] <AlienX> trace_sample916, what exactly did you type i
[07:25] <AlienX> in
[07:25] <farous> makko: if you have synaptic open press the status bottom
[07:26] <farous> below not installed is unused packages
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, im not too familiar with fat32, but i would imagine that would work
[07:26] <makko> farous: yes....
[07:26] <iiiears> tomsdimension101: I saw that yesterday. Synaptic couldn't gain access to the file listing.
[07:26] <farous> makko: those are your unused packages
[07:26] <tomsdimension101> pppoe_dude, that defeats the purpose of having a large harddrive
[07:26] <uXp> thanks eNons3nse
[07:26] <trace_sample916> AlienX: i lost the chat my connection went down
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, it does?
[07:26] <armenb> blah. this is one instance where debian is better than ubuntu.
[07:26] <eNons3nse> uXp: n/p
[07:26] <AlienX> trace_sample916, yeah but what was the error you got in terminal?
[07:26] <eNons3nse> back to my problem
[07:26] <armenb> a mythtv that isn't ass old.
[07:27] <eNons3nse> having a problem trying to connect a 2nd HD.  its a SATA drive and when I connect the SATA card & drive it hangs at "Mounting Root File System" then eventually says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist"
[07:27] <trace_sample916> AlienX: say its unrecognised
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, it is generally better to have smaller partitioned harddisks than one huge one
[07:27] <AlienX> trace_sample916, you sure you're specifying the correct device?
[07:27] <trace_sample916> AlienX: say its unrecognised dhclient
[07:27] <AlienX> trace_sample916, oh...you have to do it as sudo
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> imo
[07:28] <trace_sample916> AlienX: i'm in as root
[07:28] <tau> will "apt-get -f install" pick up the pieces of an aborted upgrade, or do I need to restart the upgrade process again?
[07:28] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, a sata drive would be SDA, not HDA
[07:28] <AlienX> trace_sample916, and "dhclient eth0" isn't working?
[07:28] <AlienX> trace_sample916, or eth1 or whatever the device is
[07:28] <trace_sample916> AlienX: nope
[07:28] <_buzz> i'm getting an error from ndiswrapper at line 135........
[07:28] <_buzz> copy("$inf", "$confdir/$driver_name/$driver_name.inf") or die "couldn't copy $inf";
[07:28] <_buzz> any ideas?
[07:28] <AlienX> trace_sample916, you sure your wireless card is setup correctly?
[07:28] <pppoe_dude> tau, you should probably start it againm and it will only install necessary packages
[07:29] <nickrud> tau, you'll need to start again
[07:29] <tau> and what happens if it quits again at the same point??
[07:29] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: i know, hda1 is the primary drive that my OS is installed on.  when i plug in my sata card with the hd attaced for some reason it cant find my hda
[07:29] <farous> tau: nice to clean your /var/cache/apt dir too
[07:29] <nickrud> do the -f install first
[07:29] <farous> sudo aptitude clean
[07:29] <tau> ok
[07:29] <Fr0Gs> is there any fixes for the locking up of ati yet?
[07:30] <trace_sample916> AlienX: yes it says "unrecognised wireless request "dhclient""
[07:30] <redrum> nope Frogs
[07:30] <tau> does that mean I have to download another 650MB again?
[07:30] <Locke> werd
[07:30] <farous> Fr0Gs: when does it lock
[07:30] <pppoe_dude> tau, no need to clean you apt cache
[07:30] <AlienX> trace_sample916, that's bizarre
[07:30] <tau> ok
[07:30] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: but i didn't unplug my primary drive.  just plugged a 2nd drive in.
[07:30] <nickrud> tau, clearing the cach is a last gasp effort
[07:30] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, yikes. My main HD is SATA, it's currently my only HD but it's shared space with ATA drives before with no issues...
[07:30] <farous> Fr0Gs: normally if you run two x sessions
[07:30] <tau> alright
[07:30] <trace_sample916> AlienX: do i type something after it?
[07:30] <farous> nickrud: lol :)
[07:30] <AlienX> trace_sample916, no...what did you type in for your "iwconfig...." command?
[07:31] <trace_sample916> AlienX: eth1
[07:31] <nickrud> farous, I've done it myself ;)
[07:31] <redrum> frogs help me petition ati
[07:31] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: everything worked just fine in breezy
[07:31] <jewcantdenyit> i have a question
[07:31] <AlienX> trace_sample916, so "iwconfig eth1 essid whatevertheidis key longhexkeyhere
[07:31] <jewcantdenyit> i am new to linux and i installed dapper today
[07:31] <Fr0Gs> farous: pm plz
[07:31] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, filed a bug yet?
[07:32] <trace_sample916> AlienX: yes thats what i have
[07:32] <AlienX> jewcantdenyit, lol, great name...just ask your quesiton
[07:32] <jewcantdenyit> and when i try and log out or reboot i jsut get a black screen and nothing happens and i have to hard reboot
[07:32] <redrum> i have a nice crashed x window atm
[07:32] <iiiears> Welcome jewcantdenyit
[07:32] <jewcantdenyit> thank u all
[07:32] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: nope.  how do i do that?
[07:32] <AlienX> trace_sample916, and "dhclient eth1" gives you an error
[07:32] <tau> jewcantdenyit: heh, you've done better than me, I haven't even got that far yet! :p
[07:32] <jewcantdenyit> well good luck
[07:32] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:32] <Motoko-chan> Having an issue with wpasupplicant and the Intel WPA2200
[07:32] <trace_sample916> AlienX: yes it does
[07:32] <tau> thanks, I think I'll need it
[07:33] <Motoko-chan> Anyone have experience with it?
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> i was able to load the x enviornment but then cant reboot
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> everything else works fine
[07:33] <AlienX> trace_sample916, i've never seen that before. I have no idea why it would give you such a command unless the computer didn't recognize your wireless card
[07:33] <AlienX> jewcantdenyit, is it blank when you boot the system too...at least up until you get to the login screen?
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> no
[07:33] <AlienX> hmm
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> i see the whole loading process
[07:34] <trace_sample916> AlienX: humm...can you give me the whole command 1 more time?
[07:34] <AlienX> trace_sample916, 'iwconfig eth1 essid "idnamehere" key <key>" && dhclient eth1'
[07:35] <trace_sample916> AlienX: do I have to put the "&&"?
[07:35] <jewcantdenyit> it kinda stinks right now im really happy with everything else so far pretty much just rebooting and loging out is an issue
[07:35] <AlienX> trace_sample916, i just did it so it's easier and runs both commands at once...you don't have to
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, can you paste /var/log/syslog in a pastebin?
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell jewcantdenyit about pastebin
[07:35] <ChakRa> noapic acpi=off, so how do i go about doing this guys ??
[07:35] <jewcantdenyit> i dunno how to do that
[07:36] <ChakRa> ~__~
[07:36] <AlienX> trace_sample916, send me the full command of what you're typing in
[07:36] <nickrud> jewcantdenyit, gedit /var/log/syslog, and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ . cut and paste to the website & give us the link
[07:36] <bdmp> I can not connect to my network after upgrade to dapper. Help. I also had that power go out (well after the upgrade) maybe that is the cause.
[07:36] <SurfnKid> 1hour into dapper install
[07:36] <jewcantdenyit> ok
[07:37] <trace_sample916> AlienX: I think the "&&" worked
[07:37] <iiiears> ChakRa: nickrud  Do you add something like that to bootmisc.sh?
[07:37] <AlienX> trace_sample916, hmm, shouldn't have made a difference but cool :)
[07:37] <nickrud> iiiears, ChakRa in dapper you add it to /etc/rc.local
[07:37] <AlienX> trace_sample916, does "iwconfig" say anything insightful to you?
[07:38] <jewcantdenyit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15437
[07:38] <nickrud> otherwise bootmisc.sh or create an init script of your own.
[07:38] <Locke> are wine and eterm available as ubuntu packages
[07:38] <trace_sample916> AlienX: hummm it scaned for a ip address and failed
[07:38] <nanenj> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages?  (Especially the most recently installed?)
[07:38] <trace_sample916> *scanned
[07:38] <ChakRa> ok i got that part but how do i do that while i am in bios of before its loaded?
[07:38] <AlienX> trace_sample916, hmm, is it possible you entered in your wep key incorrectly?
[07:38] <trace_sample916> AlienX: 1 sec will retype
[07:39] <nickrud> ChakRa, ah, that's a grub thing. I've never really looked into it since I've been blessed with extremely generic hardware
[07:39] <Motoko-chan> hm
[07:39] <ChakRa> nickrud, ic. Somone told me to reboot couple of times and it will work
[07:40] <Motoko-chan> wpasupplicant using ipw doesn't work, wext doesn't have errors, but I can't connect.
[07:40] <Motoko-chan> Any ideas?
[07:40] <Self> mysql question: what is the default password?  I just installed (then uninstalled and reinstalled) mysql and no l/p works
[07:40] <Motoko-chan> Self, try no password
[07:40] <trace_sample916> AlienX: lol THAT was it TYVM!!!!
[07:40] <Self> Motoko: doesnt work neither :|
[07:41] <AlienX> trace_sample916, no problem...good luck :)
[07:41] <mjbjr> I'm looking to buy a new system that just plain works with the latest ubuntu... any _recommendations_ ?
[07:41] <Motoko-chan> You can do the reload without priv tables thing.
[07:42] <Self> by default what does mysql makes for admin? (root with ni password?)
[07:42] <Motoko-chan> The default packages from mysql directly use no password
[07:42] <Self> and root as login?
[07:42] <Motoko-chan> Dunno what ubuntu uses
[07:42] <Motoko-chan> yes
[07:42] <Fujitsu> Motoko-chan, no password.
[07:42] <anil123> which is better Dapper or breezy
[07:43] <SurfnKid> brb
[07:43] <ishit> neone any program for dapper for runnin tv tuner cards
[07:43] <Motoko-chan> Dapper is newer, but not much docs on it yet
[07:43] <iiiears> mjbr - Get a machine preloaded with linux. maybe? (I have been looking at Lenovo laptops.)
[07:43] <Motoko-chan> Breezy is a bit older.
[07:43] <Motoko-chan> Both seem quite stable.
[07:43] <Self> humm, and is there a way to reset the mysql root password (loosing all tables is not a problem)
[07:43] <nickrud> ChakRa. I'd like to offer some help for this but I'm no grub expert and grub is what boots your computer. I think I'll go hands off on this one
[07:43] <Frogzoo> anil123: dapper is my preference - all the s/w's up to date (ish)
[07:43] <aaron_> ok so I am a day old in linux... so please no harsh comments. I'm just trying to learn...
[07:43] <aaron_> how do I install a deb file?
[07:43] <tau> ishit: You could try Kaffeine
[07:43] <jewcantdenyit> i do not want to spam the chat, but is it possible for some1 to give me some assistance on why when i try to log out or reboot it just goes to a black screen and i have to hard reboot, thank you all very much
[07:44] <Frogzoo> !tell aaron_ about docs
[07:44] <mjbjr> iiiears: yeah, I've been looking... need a desktop
[07:44] <Frogzoo> !deb
[07:44] <Madpilot> aaron_, cool, welcome to Ubuntu. What are you trying to install? (which app?)
[07:44] <tau> ishit: I've tried installing mythtv, but just couldn't figure the thing out, too darned complicated
[07:44] <ishit> tau: can i capture with that
[07:44] <aaron_> I'm trying to install aMSN Madpilot
[07:44] <Frogzoo> !tell aaron_ about deb
[07:44] <nanenj> aaron, sudo dpkg -i package.deb  (replace package.deb with the filename)
[07:44] <Madpilot> aaron_, use Gaim, it does MSN IM stuff
[07:44] <tau> ishit: yes, but it's more for watching live tv, but yes you can
[07:45] <ChefWill> anyone know if its possible to get the totem xine plugin for ff15 support scrolling/fast forwarding of videos
[07:45] <Madpilot> ishit, care to change your nick to something less juvenile, please?
[07:45] <ishit> tau: cool. n can i use a composite
[07:45] <tau> ishit: as for myself, I use dvbstream, which is a command line program
[07:45] <nickrud> jewcantdenyit, the /var/log/syslog you gave was suprisingly short.
[07:45] <jewcantdenyit> thats what it gave me
[07:45] <ishit> madpilot: hey bastard relax thats my name
[07:45] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: df -h /var
[07:45] <bdmp> uh oh
[07:46] <Madpilot> ishit, last warning. Change the nick & be polite, or leave.
[07:46] <nanenj> aaron_, good luck btw :).  I'm learning myself, being buggered silly by the fact I can't seem to figure out how to list installed packages :P  you'd think it'd be an important function that almost every 'newbie' page would have on it :P
[07:46] <anil123> when I get Daper cds in India
[07:46] <anil123> when I get Daper cds in India, Pune
[07:46] <jewcantdenyit> type that in the terminal?
[07:46] <ishit> tau: how do i use dvbstream
[07:46] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: yes - oh and what
[07:46] <Frogzoo> what's that nicik about?
[07:46] <aaron_> haha glad someone is feelin me nanenj
[07:46] <tau> ishit: I'm sorry, I don't know too much about whether you can use a composite, I generally just watch tv on my monitor
[07:46] <Motoko-chan> nanenj, synaptic will show them
[07:46] <ishit> madpilot: wat u gonna do motherfucker
[07:46] <jewcantdenyit> frogzoo, typed in that and it didnt work
[07:47] <bdmp> ha
[07:47] <ishit> tau:kk
[07:47] <jewcantdenyit> said invalid option
[07:47] <nickrud> ishit, he'll ban you if needed.
[07:47] <nanenj> Motoko-chan, it shows me a list of all packages... mixed together.
[07:47] <tau> ishit: well, there are some pages on the web that explain how to use it
[07:47] <bdmp> ishit, leave
[07:47] <vinboy> hi
[07:47] <bdmp> no one likes you
[07:47] <nickrud> too late :)
[07:47] <Madpilot> nickrud, you read my mind
[07:47] <Madpilot> :)
[07:47] <vinboy> currently I'm using GRUB fr dual boot (XP, ubuntu)
[07:47] <Motoko-chan> nanenj, you can see what are installed by the icon on the left
[07:47] <nanenj> I'm trying to find a list of -just- what I've installed, specifically what I did in a rampage of installing junk about 20 minutes ago :)
[07:47] <vinboy> but I'm going to reinstall XP, which it will replce grub
[07:47] <Motoko-chan> hm
[07:47] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, whats the link again
[07:47] <vinboy> how do I reinstall grub later?
[07:47] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell vinboy about grub
[07:47] <nanenj> right... but it's mixed all together with a gabillion other packages, there's not a way to view just the isntalled packages alone, is there?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> ask a silly question (ishit)
[07:47] <Motoko-chan> I'm sure it is listed somewhere, dunno where though directly.
[07:47] <Madpilot> nanenj, doesn't Synaptic have a function to list all installed packages?
[07:47] <Fujitsu> vinboy, see the link from ubotu.
[07:47] <tau> uh, hey mods, what did ishit do wrong?  he seemed fairly amiable to me ?!
[07:47] <vinboy> thank Fujitsu
[07:48] <nanenj> Madpilot, One webpage referenced that but, I can't find that option.
[07:48] <Frogzoo> tau: yes - enquiring minds want to know....
[07:48] <Motoko-chan> tau, offensive name and using profanity
[07:48] <jughead_> yeah that is an offensive name
[07:48] <Madpilot> tau, what Motoko-chan said...
[07:48] <tau> offensive name??  it sounds asian to me
[07:48] <bdmp> not only profanity, but profanity aimed at people
[07:48] <nanenj> OOooh! I found it :D
[07:48] <nanenj> Thanks :)
[07:48] <nanenj> there's a search filter thing you can edit what it displays :)
[07:48] <bdmp> then he should have said its asian, not what are you gonna do mf
[07:48] <Motoko-chan> Anyway, any experts with wpasupplicant?
[07:49] <pppoe_dude> + ignoring wrning
[07:49] <nickrud> rational response not provided, with accelerated language ;)
[07:49] <Frogzoo> i could car less about 'ishit' as a name - but 'jewcantdenyit' leaves me with reservations
[07:49] <tau> he said it was his real name
[07:49] <bdmp> ha
[07:49] <bdmp> no he said thats my name
[07:49] <Healot> weird, i've been setting up a lot of wifi networks, but never actually use it personally
[07:49] <jewcantdenyit> if my name is offensive to some no problem changing it
[07:49] <bdmp> not my realname
[07:49] <Motoko-chan> He also was agressive and used profanity when asked about it.
[07:49] <tau> hands up all who found it offensive?  I certainly didn't
[07:50] <bdmp> exactly
[07:50] <bdmp> thanks mokoto-chan
[07:50] <Motoko-chan> I think the profanity was what pushed it over
[07:50] <Healot> ishit
[07:50] <Healot> nice
[07:50] <Motoko-chan> And now can this be dropped?
[07:50] <Healot> i-shit looks better
[07:50] <Madpilot> tau, even if it was his real name, his response when I asked him to change it was uncalled for
[07:50] <tau> he was only aggressive when someone harrassed him for his name
[07:50] <nickrud> I did, tau but the profanity is forbidden here because kids re always around
[07:50] <tau> okay
[07:50] <Motoko-chan> I'm sure there is someone who needs help.
[07:50] <pppoe_dude> i agree with Motoko-chan
[07:50] <dragoon`> hey guys has anyone got stepmania working on dapper
[07:50] <mjbjr> and if it is his real name... then what
[07:51] <bdmp> i need help!
[07:51] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, yes.
[07:51] <bdmp> my network is gone
[07:51] <dragoon`> i keep getting ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:51] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, what's wrong?
[07:51] <Motoko-chan> mjbjr, then he can calmly discuss the issue.
[07:51] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[07:51] <dragoon`> and the lib is there
[07:51] <Fujitsu> !find libvorbisfile.so
[07:51] <nanenj> Whee, well, that mostly answers that :) just too bad there's not a sort-by-date kind of thing :P
[07:51] <Madpilot> mjbjr, then he could have said so. Now, let's drop the issue, OK?
[07:51] <Frogzoo> oh please - "ishit" as a real name? from someone asking "whachagonnadoboutitmofo" - really...
[07:51] <Motoko-chan> nanenj, this is why one keeps logs.
[07:51] <dragoon`> /lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[07:51] <dragoon`> /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[07:51] <nanenj> hrm... why when I maximize things are they covering my gnomepanels now x.x;
[07:52] <dragoon`> its there :|
[07:52] <nanenj> Motoko-chan, how would I go about doing that?  logging isn't exactly covered for newbies either :P
[07:52] <Frogzoo> so jewcantdenyit, what's with the nick?
[07:52] <Motoko-chan> Well, you get a pad of paper and a pen or pencil.
[07:52] <nanenj> oh! that kind of log ;p
[07:52] <jewcantdenyit> my friend came up with it one day when that fabolous song was hot
[07:52] <Motoko-chan> Then you take notes when you make a change.
[07:52] <jewcantdenyit> we found it amusing cuz i am jewish
[07:52] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: any ideas ?
[07:52] <Motoko-chan> ^_^
[07:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libvorbisfile.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so) in libdevel/libvorbis-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libvorbisfile.so.3|libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1}) in libs/libvorbisfile3.
[07:53] <bdmp> Mokoto-chan, you live in Japan?
[07:53] <nanenj> Here's maybe a good question (as I'm looking to fix the covering gnome panels) where'd configuration manager disappear to in dapper?
[07:53] <nanenj> in breezy it was under system tools
[07:53] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: funny in context, maybe, but in an open irc chan. maybe not such a great plan
[07:53] <nickrud> nick choice is off topic (I'll be clad to explain why I dropped the e)
[07:53] <jewcantdenyit> like i said i can change it without a problem last thing i want to do is offend
[07:53] <dallgood> can gnomebaker burn mp3s?
[07:53] <jewcantdenyit> is there a way to change nick without logging out
[07:53] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: you there
[07:53] <Madpilot> nanenj, it's there, but the menu entry is hidden.
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, /nicl
[07:53] <dallgood> er convert mp3s to wav before burning
[07:54] <Madpilot> jewcantdenyit, /nick newnick
[07:54] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: /nick newnik
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, /nick <new nick>
[07:54] <Madpilot> heh
[07:54] <Motoko-chan> jewcantdenyit, please change your nick.
[07:54] <tau> I wonder if Apu would be just as welcome here
[07:54] <Motoko-chan> Thanks.
[07:54] <nanenj> Madpilot so... I can get it back through menu-edit thinger? (dunno what it's called, just how to bring it up :P)
[07:54] <jughead_> this may sound noobish, but how do you take a screenshot in gnome?
[07:54] <Madpilot> nanenj, yes
[07:54] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, I'm back now...
[07:54] <jughead_> I'm used to ksnapshot in KDE
[07:54] <Madpilot> jughead_, hit the Print Screen key
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> jughead_, printscr button
[07:54] <jughead_> k thz
[07:54] <nanenj> Thankies once again :)
[07:54] <Motoko-chan> jughead_, there should also be a screenshot app too.
[07:54] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, can you run:
[07:55] <Motoko-chan> Dunno if it is there by default
[07:55] <makko> what is the irc nick of seb128?
[07:55] <makko> nickrud: what is the irc nick of seb128?
[07:55] <_smd_> is there a better thing that gtk-guntella i can use?
[07:55] <dragoon`> run....
[07:55] <LeeJunFan> oh it's on now. hehe
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, whats wrong with gtk-gnutella?
[07:55] <tau> eep, well apt-get -f install finished!  now, to try apt-get dist-upgrade once again :p
[07:55] <Healot> what's with the Asian theme
[07:56] <Healot> I wish ubuntu has one
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, you can try mutella
[07:56] <Motoko-chan> Healot, gnome-look site
[07:56] <_smd_> just hits on things. that is all/.
[07:56] <nickrud> makko, possibly that? Is it a trick question?
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, but mutella is command line based, so im not sure what you're looking for
[07:56] <makko> nickrud: what?
[07:56] <alex1> well i have another question, i have been trying to configure amarok and i installed the gstreamer packages, but the gstreamer engine still does not appear in amarok and it does not play songs using xine but mp3s do play in rhythmbox
[07:56] <makko> nickrud: why?
[07:56] <Healot> i know about the themes
[07:56] <makko> nickrud: don't say you are seb128!!??
[07:56] <nickrud> or, I've only had email contact with him, not irc
[07:56] <Frogzoo> alex1: "df -h /var"  gives errors? that doesn't sound so good, 2nd check pls
[07:57] <Blaskowitz> hi, i'm trying to intall ubuntu on a seperate HD but both HDs are the same model, in the partition menu it has SCSI1 (sda) and SCSI2 (sdb), is the 2 in SCS13 an indication that it is the secondary drive? (the second SATA plug)?
[07:57] <_smd_> I do not mind command line at all
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> alex1: you install amarok-gstreamer as well?
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, try mutella then
[07:57] <Blaskowitz> SCS12*
[07:57] <alex1> i didnt see it in their
[07:57] <_smd_> Thanks
[07:57] <tau> I've got the same error again!  It seems the problem is in package perl-tk
[07:58] <makko> nickrud: oh, you mean he has no irc nick?
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> alex1: personally I've had nothing but bad luck with gstreamer, and xine works fine for me. To play mp3's with xine engine you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[07:58] <nanenj> hrm... maybe restarting gnome will fix that... can't seem to find anything wrong :|
[07:58] <tau> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:58] <Frogzoo> alex1: just paste the last line returned from that command ^
[07:58] <alex1> ok
[07:58] <alex1> df: invalid option -- /
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> alex1, if you install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 it will play mp3
[07:59] <nickrud> makko, no, I assume he might use more than one since he's a target. Hence the trick question question.
[07:59] <Frogzoo> alex1: wtf?
[07:59] <alex1> thanks ill try this out
[07:59] <nanenj> Yep, that fixed the things covering the panels :) yay for using windows thinking on linux.
[07:59] <nanenj> If it's broke, restart! :D
[07:59] <alex1> i do not know
[07:59] <Frogzoo> alex1: just cut & paste the command into a terminal - you're misreading it for sure
[07:59] <makko> nickrud: isn't sabdfl a target too?
[07:59] <alex1> should i put in quotes?
[07:59] <alex1> frogzoo: can u send the command again please
[08:00] <Frogzoo> alex1: without quotes "df -h /var"
[08:00] <LeeJunFan> nanenj: bah, never restart unless booting with a new kernel :)
[08:00] <trace_sample916> AlienX:do you know how to install oss sound?
[08:00] <nickrud> makko, and I would understand his use of another alias now and then.
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> nanenj, you can usually restart X for these kinds of problems, and if worst comes to worst init 2 ctrl+d
[08:00] <alex1> frogzoo: yea i didnt ahve a space
[08:00] <Madpilot> makko, could you take the chat about irc nicks to #ubuntu-offtopic, please? Thanks
[08:00] <Motoko-chan> pppoe_dude, Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[08:00] <Motoko-chan> That will restart X
[08:00] <Frogzoo> alex1: there ya go
[08:00] <nanenj> I meant just restarting the xserver :)
[08:00] <AlienX> trace_sample916, look for a package called alsa-oss or something along those lines...i don't remember the specific name
[08:00] <alex1> frogzoo: it just tells me the space i have available on the partition
[08:00] <nanenj> Actually... during multiple restarts (I've done a few while dinking and killing settings)
[08:00] <billybennett> hey guys, I'm having trouble shutting down my laptop. When I hit shutdown it turns off the screen but everything else is still running and I have to manually hold the button down to shut it off... any ideas?
[08:00] <trace_sample916> AlienX:ty
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> Motoko-chan, no that will kill X
[08:00] <makko> Madpilot: why?
[08:01] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: you still alive ?
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> Motoko-chan, and restart gdm
[08:01] <nanenj> My Gnome Session seems to slowly creep upwards in VTs.
[08:01] <AlienX> trace_sample916, it's actually called alsa-oss :)
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> ;)
[08:01] <nanenj> I swear I started n VT7, and now I'm on VT9
[08:01] <Frogzoo> alex1: right - just needed to check you had free space - (typical reason for short logs, uc)
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> alex1,
[08:01] <alex1> only 8% full
[08:01] <alex1> yes pppoe
[08:01] <Madpilot> makko, because it's not really ontopic for a tech support channel, but anything goes in -offtopic (within reason...)
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> alex1, "sudo apt-get install xclip"
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> alex1, "xclip -i /var/log/syslog"
[08:02] <nanenj> Maybe I should kill the VTAutoAllocation setting :|
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> alex1, then go to pastebin and press middle mouse button (or two buttons together)
[08:02] <tau> could someone help me out here please?  it appears as though I have one package left to upgrade in my dapper upgrade - perl-tk, but it's giving me this confusing error
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> alex1, and give me link coz i cant find last like
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> *link
[08:02] <nickrud> tau, could you put that error on the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , that's promising :)
[08:02] <alex1> nothing happened
[08:02] <AlienX> tau, and that error is?
[08:03] <tau> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> alex1, thats fine
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> alex1, go to pastebin then press middle button inside textbox
[08:03] <nanenj> Oh well, I'll save it for tomorrow.  Thank you Madpilot, Motoko, et all. :)  You're a wonderful help.
[08:03] <AlienX> alright, i'm going to sleep. night all
[08:03] <Madpilot> nanenj, you're welcome. Good luck
[08:03] <nanenj> Hopefully eventually I'll learn enough to be as helpful :)
[08:03] <alex1> pppoe: huh?
[08:03] <nanenj> Night night all :)
[08:03] <tau> some other lines before that said: Unpacking replacement perl-tk ...
[08:03] <alex1> im not sure what u want me to copy
[08:03] <tau> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[08:04] <tau> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Tk/PNG/PNG.so', which is also in package libtk-png-perl
[08:04] <tau> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:04] <pppoe_dude> alex1, xclip copies the log to clip board, all you need to do is press the middle mouse button (or both buttons of the mouse) into a text box to past
[08:04] <alex1> ah, ok thanks
[08:04] <pppoe_dude> alex1, just incase you didnt copy the whole thing
[08:04] <valehru> is ther a minimize function for xchat to the system tray in gnome?
[08:05] <nickrud> tau, then you seem to have conflicting repositories, do you have any non-ubuntu archives active?
[08:05] <alex1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15438
[08:05] <mjbjr> click on the '_' in the upper corner
[08:05] <valehru> mjbjr, to the system tray
[08:05] <tau> nickrud: let me check
[08:05] <valehru> mjbjr, not to the task bar
[08:05] <mjbjr> ah
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> alex1, this is very short for a syslog...
[08:06] <valehru> much like the one they have for mirc
[08:06] <alex1> what could be a reason for this
[08:06] <alex1> i jsut installed this today
[08:06] <mjbjr> wtf is the system tray anyhow?
[08:06] <alex1> i have the 64bit version
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> alex1, can you do the same for xclip -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <tau> nickrud: the only repositories active in my sources.list are my local ubuntu mirror, and archive.ubuntu.com - unless those two are conflicting with each other?
[08:06] <alex1> ok one second
[08:07] <Fujitsu> ls -l /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[08:07] <Fujitsu> seb128, makko.
[08:07] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, ls -l /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[08:07] <nickrud> tau, could you put your sources on the pastebin?
[08:07] <Fujitsu> makko, his nick is seb128.
[08:07] <Fujitsu> Blaskowitz, yes.
[08:07] <dragoon`> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2006-06-10 15:09 /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3 -> /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1
[08:07] <valehru> mjbjr, if you use gaim or azareus then you can minimize to the systray beside the clock...
[08:07] <Fujitsu> makko, it's seb128!!
[08:07] <valehru> a small icon beside the clock
[08:07] <alex1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15439
[08:07] <Fujitsu> A target, nickrud!?
[08:07] <Blaskowitz> ok, thanks Fujitsu :)
[08:07] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, yes...
[08:08] <tau> nickrud: how do i do that?  I take it pastebin is the site I just got the link to?
[08:08] <nickrud> If he showed here, I have all kinds of irrelevant questions :)
[08:08] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, I asked you for the output of a command.
[08:08] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: that was the output
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[08:08] <nickrud> tau, yes. gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then cut and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:08] <Fujitsu> That's /insanely/ shortl.
[08:08] <Fujitsu> *short.
[08:08] <nootrope> where does ubuntu keep user profile information such as preferences for applications? is there a standard place?
[08:08] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: you have a very hugh ping
[08:08] <nickrud> copy & paste I mean tam
[08:08] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, can you please check that /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1 exists?
[08:09] <nickrud> errpast98, tau ^^
[08:09] <mjbjr> valehru: what does that get you that the task bar doesn't?
[08:09] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: it does
[08:09] <alex1> ppoe: when i set up x envoirnment i selected to load all the choices, could that be part of problem
[08:09] <Madpilot> nootrope, in dot-files - hidden in your home directory.
[08:09] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, can you please remove and reinstall all packages starting with libvorbisfile?
[08:09] <nootrope> MadPilot: Ah! no wonder... thanks!
[08:09] <Madpilot> nootrope, in the file manager, hit Ctrl+H to see them (same again to hid them again)
[08:09] <nootrope> thanx, madPilot
[08:09] <valehru> it minimizes the application to a single icon, and not to a large box on the task bar...
[08:09] <valehru> optimizes space
[08:09] <tau> nickrud: errpast98??  what's that?
[08:10] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: ok, doing that now
[08:10] <iiiears> valehru:  - open it on another desktop then click on that?
[08:10] <dragoon`> done
[08:10] <nickrud> tau, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is a place you can put up text for all to see. We use it here a lot.
[08:10] <valehru> iiiears, no...no...no
[08:11] <valehru> :)
[08:11] <tau> nickrud: what name should I put in the name box?
[08:11] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: still the same error
[08:11] <nickrud> yours is normal
[08:11] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, that's very strange.
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> alex1, your last paste doesnt seem right... in any case, try this see if it works fine **this will restart your computer**
[08:11] <nickrud> tau, I mean you nick here, that is
[08:11] <tau> nickrud: ok, I've posted it
[08:11] <alex1> ok
[08:11] <tau> nickrud: hey, that's a pretty cool resource :)
[08:11] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: any idea whats wrong ?
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> alex1, from a terminal type "sudo killall X && sudo init 0"
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> alex1, see if it hangs or not
[08:12] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, no, unfortunately.
[08:12] <dragoon`> ok
[08:12] <alex1> ok ill be back in a few
[08:12] <dragoon`> thanks anyway
[08:12] <bdmp__> is eth1 always wireless?
[08:13] <KyoLptp`> Are there many Linux virii?
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> KyoLptp`, not really
[08:13] <tau> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15440
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> alex1, ?
[08:13] <nickrud> tau, ok, I see two references to dapper main & restricted; under your ##main section, and a little below #deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu dapper main.
[08:13] <alex1> hey pppoe: what was that command again
[08:13] <alex1> i copied it poorly
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> alex1, "sudo killall X && sudo init0"
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> alex1, - ""
[08:14] <alex1> thanks again
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:14] <alex1> - at the end?
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> alex1, without quotation marks
[08:14] <alex1> yea
[08:14] <Motoko-chan> KyoLptp`, yes there are, but none outside research labs.
[08:14] <alex1> ok here it goes
[08:14] <iiiears> KyoLptp`: The last documented virus was many years ago. - only a proof of concept. Linus Torvaldis Had to patch the kernel to make it run.
[08:14] <Motoko-chan> And they are very limited in what they can damage.
[08:15] <tau> nickrud: yes, you're talking about the reference to archive.ubuntu.com near the bottom?  yes, I put that in because my local mirror seemed to be missing packages I wanted at the time.  Is that bad?
[08:15] <Motoko-chan> iiiears, that was funny to read.
[08:15] <KyoLptp`> Ah, ok
[08:15] <KyoLptp`> Thanks, guys
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> oops
[08:15] <nickrud> tau, I'd replace all of your internode repos with the archive.ubuntu.com ones for a test at least.
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> init 0
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> too late
[08:15] <tau> ok
[08:15] <nickrud> tau, yes, it is bad :)
[08:15] <tau> alright :p
[08:17] <pppoe_dude> hell be back
[08:17] <Fr0Gs> is anyone here running an ATI Card with DRI Enabled on here?
[08:17] <tau> nickrud: ok, trying it now
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, shouldve been a init 0 not ini0
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> *init0
[08:18] <alex1> pppoe: the command u gave me did not restart my comp it said something like "no processes to kill" or along those lines
[08:18] <alex1> ah
[08:18] <alex1> ok let me try again
[08:18] <alex1> thanks
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, try sudo init 0
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, without killall X
[08:18] <tau> nickrud: doh!  no such luck - it's back to exactly the same error! :(
[08:18] <alex1> so just type sudo init 0
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> see if it hangs or not
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, yes
[08:18] <tau> with perl-tk
[08:19] <lib8264q> hello all
[08:19] <disinterested_pe> ok, i keep getting a problem found on the system its python 2.3-4suite how do i get rid of it?
[08:19] <lerelele> hi! I have two soundcards and i managed to set by default the good one in alsa and esd, but audacity and firefox flash movies doesn't sound so i think that maybe i need to change oss default too. Can anyone help me?
[08:20] <lib8264q> can anyone tell me is there a gui for eagle modems
[08:20] <nickrud> tau, ok the next step is probably dpkg -r perl-tk. If anything needs perl-tk it'll fail
[08:20] <tau> nickrud: hey a quick google may have found something! http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-perl-maintainers/2006-January/002194.html
[08:20] <dragoon`> r/win kill
[08:20] <Fr0Gs> anyone here have a ATI card
[08:21] <tau> nickrud: the error shown is almost identical to mine
[08:21] <farous> Fr0Gs: it is not working
[08:21] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Fr0Gs about ati
[08:21] <redrum> Fr0Gs,  yes
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> lib8264q, try editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[08:21] <Fujitsu> Hi again, alex1.
[08:21] <redrum> you can join #ati with the other lost ati users too Fr0Gs
[08:21] <farous> Fr0Gs: maybe it is a bug that is specific for your card did you check the ati site
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> lib8264q, FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="OSS" or such
[08:22] <ube> how do you start ubuntu in a text install?
[08:22] <alex1> pppoe: no still hung, and maybe i should be more clear its not that its just black screen , the monitor light goes from green to yellow also kind of like in sleep or screensaver
[08:22] <redrum> Fr0Gs, and mention your OS, type of card etc...
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> alex1, sounds like it is switching display mode...
[08:22] <ron_> alternative cd
[08:22] <alex1> pppoe: and how can this be stopped
[08:22] <JohnsonE> OK guys, i return with more questions!
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> alex1, what video card do you use?
[08:22] <alex1> x800xl
[08:23] <alex1> pci e
[08:23] <lib8264q> thanks :)
[08:23] <tau> nickrud: so it seems that lib-tk is trying to overwrite a file already used/owned by another package
[08:23] <ube> does anyone know how to start text install in dapper?
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:23] <nickrud> tau, try looking for a similar bug in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs  also
[08:23] <Fujitsu> !alternate
[08:23] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[08:23] <Fujitsu> ube, ^^^
[08:23] <Fr0Gs> redrum im running Ubuntu 6.06, and i have a Radeio 9600XT 256mb
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> lib8264q, did it work?
[08:23] <JohnsonE> question 1: apt-get always tells me the package couldn't be found. How do I make it find the package?
[08:23] <lib8264q> youmean do a text install ?
[08:23] <nickrud> tau, you can force it to do so with dpkg, but finding out the real reason makes better sense
[08:24] <tau> ok
[08:24] <suyog> someone please tell me, do i need to run apt-get update everyday so that the update manager can find updates?
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, which package for instance?
[08:24] <wendyalison> Hi, I've installed some bz2 files, but i'm not sure how to run the app
[08:24] <JohnsonE> pppoe: for example the different font packages
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> suyog, no it automatically updates daily
[08:24] <wendyalison> can somebody please tell me what's the right way to run installed applications
[08:24] <redrum> Fr0Gs, I'm using a crippled 9600 as well, it seems to be common to the card..
[08:24] <suyog> i see. thank you.
[08:24] <nickrud> tau, dpkg --force help gives you a birds eye view
[08:24] <lib8264q> sorry lappys  in other place   iv taken note will try later
[08:25] <suyog> and what is the name of update manager in kubuntu?
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> lol lib8264q  sorry
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> ;)
[08:25] <tomsdimension101> ok, is there a way to automount ntfs writeable
[08:25] <tomsdimension101> I am doing it through ntfsmount
[08:25] <tomsdimension101> can i change the automount to use ntfsmount so it will automount the drive writeable?
[08:26] <mrmist> Need some help with formatting...
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> lerelele, try editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[08:26] <JohnsonE> pppoe: I tried running this: sudo apt-get install xfonts-intl-european
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> lerelele,  FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="OSS"
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'm trying out two new things tonight
[08:26] <lib8264q> !restriced formats
[08:26] <ubotu> lib8264q: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'm going to install the 64-bit Kubuntu
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> up to thsi point I've been running 32bit Ubuntu
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> !info xfonts-intl-european
[08:26] <ubotu> xfonts-intl-european: (International fonts for X -- European), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-4ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 156 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:26] <mrmist> I'm having a dual-boot config winxp/ubuntu and I'm reinstalling Linux.... I want to have the "/home" folder on it's own partition... how do I do it ?
[08:27] <lib8264q> !mp3
[08:27] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> YES Mrmist, I was about to ask that same question
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, you need to enable universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:27] <snoops> having a problem with xgl.. everything is installed.. going from the forum about creating a 'thefuture' script.. ran that.. it seems like it's loaded.. but I don't have any title bars etc
[08:27] <snoops> plus I can't move windows around with alt+click
[08:27] <Fujitsu> snoops, make sure gnome-window-decorator is running, as well as compiz...
[08:28] <JohnsonE> pppoe: i have no idea how to do that.. just open the file?
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the '#' signs from beside the deb words
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, then run sudo apt-get update
[08:28] <bdmp__> My network won't work. need help.
[08:28] <snoops> I can check that with ps -A | grep compiz and ps -A | grep gnome-window-decorator right Fujitsu?
[08:28] <lerelele> pppoe_dude: the problem is that oss uses the wrong soundcard
[08:28] <Fujitsu> Probably, snoops.
[08:29] <bigfoot1> i'm currenty on ubuntu (gnome). how can i try out xubuntu on this computer WITOUT any risks of not having my programs (skype, opera, mp3 players, OOo, gimp, etc)   not working?
[08:29] <snoops> is there another way?
[08:29] <JohnsonE> ppoe: remove every # in front of a deb?
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> lerelele, so you want to change the default OSS sound device?
[08:29] <lerelele> pppoe_dude: yes
[08:29] <dallgood> does anyone know of a good alarm clock applet or something for gnomepanel?
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, yes, that would enable everything
[08:29] <tau> is there a quick way to find out what other programs depend on a given package?
[08:30] <bdmp__> Networ won't work. I use the network tools but still ifconfig gives me http://pastebin.ca/63506 nothing.
[08:30] <JohnsonE> thanks, pppoe.. worked
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, no problem
[08:30] <ube> Fujitsu: thanks
[08:30] <Fujitsu> No problem, ube.
[08:30] <JohnsonE> QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.