[00:01] <freaked286> moep
[00:02] <mirak> hello
[00:02] <mirak> is it suicide to use btrfs ?
[00:02] <freaked286> im using a 286-16mhz right now with fat16..and im still living
[00:03] <lawltoad> hi, hi is there a way I can start up ubuntu normally, but after login start NO desktop environment?
[00:04] <reisio> lawltoad: yarp
[00:04] <reisio> mirak: nah
[00:04] <reisio> mirak: you should always have a backup no matter what FS you use, though
[00:06] <lawltoad> um.. how? Googling around I keep running into ppl trying to fix problems with it not starting, haha
[00:06] <daftykins> lawltoad: i would suspect taking lightdm out of the run-at-boot list
[00:07] <lawltoad> I don't mind lightdm, I just meant after that
[00:08] <reisio> after lightdm?
[00:08] <reisio> what do you want to start after lightdm?
[00:08] <lawltoad> I like having it for login for some accounts, but other accounts I'd rather it drop me at a shell
[00:08] <daftykins> lawltoad: you can't login graphically and get *not* graphics :)
[00:09] <daftykins> lawltoad: you're aware you can just switch to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F1, login and stop X, yes?
[00:10] <reisio> hrmmm, you probably can, but there are simpler ways like the man says
[00:10] <lawltoad> daftykins, Well its a family computer, so my grandparents need the gui that I
[00:10] <trism> lawltoad: you could have a session that just starts xterm, but it is pretty unpleasant, better would be starting ratpoison or i3 or something
[00:10] <lawltoad> 'd rather avoid
[00:10] <lawltoad> but yea, that sounds workable actually
[00:10] <sagredo> Beldar: off to see if it worked
[00:10] <daftykins> lawltoad: i fail to see what you're trying to achieve
[00:11] <Beldar> world dominance
[00:11] <lawltoad> Ctrl+alt+f1 is what I wanted  ^ ^
[00:11] <daftykins> heh
[00:12] <daftykins> lawltoad: or if you own a smartphone, tablet or laptop, SSH into it over the network ;)
[00:13] <lawltoad> Well I was working on writing a window manager, so I like having a session without gnome starting up in the background
[00:13] <lawltoad> xinit -- :1 from a shell dosn't stop apps from picking up seetings from gnome I think
[00:14] <Guest17828> hello
[00:15] <daftykins> hi
[00:16] <lawltoad> interesting, I can't ctrl+alt F1 from lightdm
[00:16] <reisio> lawltoad: try F2
[00:16] <daftykins> lawltoad: what version and distro are you running?
[00:16] <reisio> lawltoad: what you'd probably want to do, if you're booting it from being off, is add a custom grub entry that specifies an earlier runlevel
[00:17] <lawltoad> I'm dumb, since its a mac i need Fn as well
[00:17] <reisio> ah :p
[00:17] <daftykins> reisio: i didn't think that works in Ubuntu since it doesn't use runlevels 0o
[00:17] <Boscop> i connected my wifi usb stick to my computer. lsusb lists it: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter    and lsmod also: r8712u                184158  0    but i can't connect to a network
[00:17] <daftykins> !realtek
[00:17] <daftykins> Boscop: ^
[00:18] <daftykins> i know the # doesn't match but it may be relevant
[00:18] <reisio> daftykins: upstart has no provision for it?
[00:19] <daftykins> reisio: not sure what you mean there i'm afraid, i was just under the impression that Ubuntu only uses one runlevel for running and one for shutting down and that's it
[00:19] <daftykins> but i probably don't understand it enough to articulate my meaning 0o
[00:19] <reisio> mmm
[00:19] <trism> !text
[00:19] <trism> that'd do it
[00:20] <reisio> nah, probably works, though I don't know the particulars of upstart
[00:20] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/215089/starting-linux-in-text-mode-using-grub2
[00:21] <icecube45> Hey guys, I have a question about my bash script, when ran as me, it works fine, but when called upon by php, or just ran by a different user, it fails, do I need to add the www user (or other user) to like a filesystem group?
[00:21] <daftykins> icecube45: ask in the bash channel
[00:21] <daftykins> pretty sure i've told you this before too 0o
[00:22] <icecube45> I don't think you have..
[00:22] <daftykins> maybe a separate issue.
[00:22] <icecube45> But was unaware a bash channel exsisted, thanks mate
[00:22] <daftykins> oh actually that sounds pretty...
[00:22] <daftykins> obvious.
[00:22] <daftykins> whoops.
[00:24] <sagredo> how can I find out if my machine is EFI?
[00:25] <reisio> sagredo: what do you see during bootup?
[00:25] <sagredo> reisio: hp BIOS
[00:25] <reisio> sagredo: BIOS is what you have if you don't have U/EFI
[00:26] <sagredo> reisio: alright thanks
[00:26] <sagredo> easy enough
[00:26] <reisio> :)
[00:29] <sagredo> im trying to follow the directions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[00:30] <sagredo> ./dev/sdb1   *        2048   966811647   483404800   83  Linux /dev/sdb2       966813694   976771071     4978689    5  Extended /dev/sdb5       966813696   976771071     4978688   82  Linux swap / Solar
[00:30] <sagredo> and I get this: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[00:30] <stiv2k_> hello i just installed ubuntu 14.04 desktop amd64 on my computer and while it installed fine, it slows to a crawl and freezes as soon as my desktop loads on bootup
[00:30] <stiv2k_> i cant even move the mouse
[00:31] <stiv2k_> it becomes lagged by like a whole minute
[00:31] <stiv2k_> i also installed WITH the updates as i had the ethernet cable connected
[00:31] <sagredo> what file system type is Extended?
[00:33] <sagredo> tryign to follow these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[00:33] <sagredo> and I get ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[00:34] <sagredo> help?
[00:35] <daftykins> sagredo: yeah, you're being told the answer
[00:35] <fisch246> hello I just updated to 14.04.1 from 12.04 (not sure which point release, being as it was desktop). the application "festival" is failing to upgrade. It looks like it's having issues extracting the the gzip
[00:36] <Izaya> Anone familliar with the nouveau E[Xorg[1282]] failed to idle channcel 0xcccc000 issue on starting back up from suspend? (http://imgur.com/9W3fVJl)
[00:36] <daftykins> sagredo: what's the file system? EXT4? "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/blah /mnt/point"
[00:36] <sagredo> daftykins: what is the syntax for telling it extended?
[00:36] <stiv2k_> it works in failsafe graphics mode
[00:36] <stiv2k_> i think its an nvidia problem
[00:36] <stiv2k_> help?
[00:36] <daftykins> stiv2k_: what kind of system? desktop? what graphics card?
[00:37] <fisch246> oh i think i might know. it could have just gotten a corrupted download. where are the packages stored before installed?
[00:38] <stiv2k_> daftykins: its an acer aspire ast180
[00:38] <daftykins> fisch246: you could purge packages by running "sudo apt-get clean"
[00:38] <__Alexander_> hm.. i think about getting into c++ again, is there a really good ide available ?
[00:38] <stiv2k_> daftykins: which means it shold have a geforce 6xxx on it
[00:39] <stiv2k_> 6100
[00:39] <daftykins> stiv2k_: "lspci" would confirm that
[00:39] <fisch246> daftykins: that did it, thanks :)
[00:39] <fisch246> problem solved
[00:39] <fisch246> [solved] lol
[00:39] <daftykins> my pleasure
[00:39] <stiv2k_> daftykins: with failsafe graphics, i was able to login, connect wifi, and it showed some kernel updates available... let me see if this fixes it
[00:39] <daftykins> stiv2k_: doubt it
[00:39] <stiv2k_> daftykins: why?
[00:40] <daftykins> stiv2k_: well just do it then we'll continue
[00:40] <stiv2k_> ok
[00:40] <stiv2k_> one minute
[00:41] <daftykins> stiv2k_: heh an old single core Athlon64 huh? oh dear you ought to not be running standard ubuntu really
[00:41] <stiv2k_> daftykins: really?
[00:42] <stiv2k_> daftykins: it had windows xp on it
[00:42] <stiv2k_> ....
[00:42] <stiv2k_> i needed something that isn't EOL
[00:42] <daftykins> stiv2k_: yeah, xubuntu would be better
[00:42] <daftykins> what RAM does that thing have? 2GB?
[00:42] <stiv2k_> daftykins: lspci confirms the geforce 6100
[00:43] <Izaya> Has anyone encountered this on returning from suspend:
[00:43] <Izaya> nouveau E[Xorg[1282]] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000
[00:43] <talgolan65380> Kabini APU w/ HD8210 GCN based GPU and Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit. How do I get the UVD/VDPAU/VAAPI stuff working with the OSS drivers? I tried Movie Player, VLC and MPV and all 3 are using CPU decoding for video playback
[00:44] <Bashing-om> stiv2k_: single core Athlon, lubuntu runs well on that hardware. My Wife's old system could not take the upgrade to 12.04 ubuntu, but Lubuntu ran very well.
[00:44] <UltimaKR> jradd: alright, im home now...you said to find a number in the start column in the fdisk command, but there was no start column for sdb
[00:46] <stiv2k_> Bashing-om: hmm
[00:47] <stiv2k_> Bashing-om: its not going to be doing much multitasking, its just running the printer in the living room and for playing youtube on the tv
[00:47] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the kernel update didn't fix it. why? and what do i do now?
[00:48] <sagredo> daftykins: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[00:51] <daftykins> sagredo: ok, wrong file system then. are you sure that's your intended partition? "sudo parted -l" or "sudo fdisk -l" to confirm
[00:51] <sagredo> daftykins: tryign to follow this to recover my install http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: just a heads up that system is going to suck regardless of if you get it working, since it's so old for a full ubuntu with unity experience
[00:52] <sagredo> daftykins: for me that corresponds with /sdb2
[00:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i dont really want 'unity' honestly
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:52] <sagredo> and /sdb1
[00:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: im not trying to get all the fancy 3d effects
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: ok, go download xubuntu or lubuntu and install it instead
[00:52] <stiv2k_> daftykins: shit. really? i wasted a dvd for that?
[00:52] <daftykins> stiv2k_: does that thing have 1GB RAM?
[00:53] <stiv2k_> daftykins: 2GB
[00:53] <daftykins> stiv2k_: well you could switch right now if you can deal with the wait and have a fast connection
[00:53] <reisio> stiv2k_: you can change your desktop after installation
[00:53] <sagredo> daftykins: any adivce for filestyle type for Extended?
[00:54] <daftykins> sagredo: i told you what to run, until you provide me with the output from those commands we are not going to progress. i am not clicking your link
[00:54] <sagredo> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/q1uyCqzV
[00:55] <Boscop> daftykins: I downloaded the driver from here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true but build fails because there is no source for armv6l. where is that source?
[00:55] <stiv2k_> daftykins: im reading on google that the nouveau driver is kinda crappy in 14.04 and that installing proprietary drivers will fix it
[00:55] <daftykins> sagredo: sdb2 is *not* a partition, sdb1 is your /
[00:56] <daftykins> Boscop: armv6? what device is this? what OS is this?
[00:56] <sagredo> daftykins: i have to assing one partition to /mnt
[00:56] <sagredo> and another to /mnt/boot
[00:56] <sagredo> what do you suggest?
[00:56] <Boscop> daftykins: raspberry pi, raspbian wheezy
[00:57] <daftykins> Boscop: right, so that's debian based. this is not #debian
[00:57] <Boscop> can i use the sources in the arm64 folder?
[00:57] <Boscop> daftykins: but it also doesn't work in ubuntu
[00:57] <daftykins> sagredo: no, you're trying to follow instructions that aren't appropriate for your issue
[00:57] <daftykins> Boscop: sorry, thems the brakes.
[00:58] <sagredo> daftykins: ok ill start from scratch
[00:59] <sagredo> daftykins: after a fresh boot I get the following message on startup 'error: invalid arch-independent ELF magic."
[00:59] <sagredo> Enterting rescue mode...
[00:59] <sagredo> grub rescue>
[01:00] <sagredo> i'm on a live USB session right now that obviously works
[01:00] <daftykins> sagredo: i was really hoping you meant you'd just clean install :(
[01:00] <sagredo> but when I try to install to my USB drive I get that error
[01:00] <sagredo> daftykins: yes clean install
[01:00] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[01:00] <sagredo> daftykins: this was my first time booting after "installation complete"
[01:00] <daftykins> hi.
[01:00] <daftykins> sagredo: ok, any other disks besides the SSD in this system?
[01:01] <sagredo> daftykins: the USB drive that I'm running on now
[01:01] <sagredo> 'sda'
[01:01] <daftykins> that's not a disk and it's not really 'in'
[01:01] <JokesOnYou77> I'm trying to tail -f file.txt | grep pattern | tee someOtherfile  And it works fine with grep but tee gives no output.  What am I doing wrong? :<
[01:01] <sagredo> daftykins: alright, then no
[01:02] <daftykins> sagredo: what's this machine?
[01:02] <daftykins> JokesOnYou77: to the bash channel with you
[01:02] <sagredo> daftykins: HP m8530f
[01:02] <sagredo> daftykins: amd64 Phenom I
[01:03] <frsfett4> I have low volume from my headphone using alc1150 on MSI Z97 motherboard.
[01:05] <daftykins> sagredo: mm-hmm, and what version is on your flash drive?
[01:05] <sagredo> 14.04
[01:05] <frsfett4> ppl
[01:05] <sagredo> just downloaded today
[01:06] <frsfett4> any idea?
[01:06] <daftykins> frsfett4: someone will reply if they know, don't repeat
[01:06] <frsfett4> I am newbie
[01:06] <sagredo> frsfett4: turn up the volume in the volume level
[01:06] <daftykins> sagredo: 64-bit?
[01:06] <sagredo> frsfett4: or manually using 'alsamixer' in terminal
[01:06] <sagredo> daftykins: yes
[01:06] <daftykins> sagredo: i see results of Phenom X4 online
[01:06] <bubbasaure> daftykins, the hd is an external.
[01:06] <knightshade> hi
[01:06] <frsfett4> I already slide the volume to max but it is a alsa issue.
[01:07] <frsfett4> I reported the bug.
[01:07] <daftykins> bubbasaure: i don't remember talking to you, to what are you talking about?
[01:07] <frsfett4> No reply yet.
[01:07] <sagredo> daftykins: phenom x4 9550
[01:07] <sagredo> frsfett4: did you try 'alsamixer'?
[01:08] <bubbasaure> daftykins, this is beldar, I am on my nexus, I had them make a new table and auto install.
[01:08] <daftykins> sagredo: are you sure that "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/drive" fails as you said earlier?
[01:08] <frsfett4> Yes, I can increase a little bit with alsamixer, I set to 150%.
[01:08] <sagredo> daftykins: let me try
[01:08] <frsfett4> My sound codec dump shows 2 EAPD node.
[01:09] <daftykins> bubbasaure: ah roger that
[01:09] <daftykins> sagredo: so this HDD isn't internal either?
[01:09] <stiv2k_> daftykins: its not really that slow
[01:09] <reisio> knightshade: ohio
[01:09] <sagredo> daftykins: no
[01:09] <frsfett4> EAPD?
[01:09] <stiv2k_> daftykins: fear mongerer
[01:09] <sagredo> daftykins: that worked
[01:09] <daftykins> stiv2k_: perhaps you just have low standards
[01:09] <sagredo> daftykins: but what about sdb2?
[01:09] <bubbasaure> Ah though it was my bad
[01:09] <daftykins> sagredo: can you stop going on about that :P
[01:10] <sagredo> daftykins: fine
[01:10] <sagredo> daftykins: what next?
[01:10] <daftykins> sagredo: "sudo blkid | pastebinit" and "pastebinit /mnt/drive/etc/fstab"
[01:11] <daftykins> stiv2k_: btw don't speak to me in that way again, thanks
[01:11] <stiv2k_> daftykins: lol. i'll keep playing with it and see how i like it. if not i'll switch to LXDE or XFCE. which would you recommend?
[01:11] <stiv2k_> daftykins: it was a joke man
[01:11] <daftykins> stiv2k_: don't you see fun is off limits here! :P
[01:12] <daftykins> stiv2k_: did you fix it then? what's the deal
[01:12] <m100> Why do Gentoo users get all the fun?
[01:12] <sagredo> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8067224/ ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/8067226/
[01:12] <daftykins> m100: support question for ubuntu or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[01:13] <daftykins> hrmm well those match up just fine
[01:13] <frsfett4> Does ubuntu support NV Geforce 6200? I installed but feel kinda slow  comparing to windows.
[01:14] <daftykins> depends which Windows
[01:14] <daftykins> and depends which Ubuntu
[01:14] <sagredo> daftykins: so do I need to grub-install?
[01:14] <sagredo> to the new mount point?
[01:14] <frsfett4> Windows XP and xubuntu 14.04.
[01:15] <daftykins> sagredo: no i doubt that's relevant
[01:15] <sagredo> daftykins: ok then restart?
[01:15] <daftykins> you haven't changed anything yet, why would you restart?
[01:15] <frsfett4> freezing some time
[01:15] <sagredo> daftykins: what do I change?
[01:15] <daftykins> sagredo: relax, i'm thinking about it
[01:16] <OerHeks> nvidia 6200 needs the old nvidia-173 driver .. but it is slow yes
[01:16] <frsfett4> especially when using chrome.
[01:16] <daftykins> i really don't get why everyone's so obsessed with chrome these days
[01:16] <frsfett4> OerHeks: I installed the latest one.
[01:17] <frsfett4> and I rolled back to Xorg.
[01:17] <knightshade> Today I found out that the fedora installer is much more clever than the ubuntu one. It first asks all the important questions, then copies the files and everything. The ubuntu installer is like: ask first question, do stuff, ask next question, do next thing, so you have to keep an eye on the screen all the time.
[01:17] <frsfett4> Install nvidia gfx driver I got splash lost.
[01:18] <OerHeks> knightshade, does the fedora installer download updates simultanious with installation?
[01:18] <OerHeks> ;-)
[01:18] <sagredo> daftykins: Most likely you did not run grub-install to the device your BIOS is actually booting from. Try running grub-install against all drives but *no* partitions and be sure that you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" once you're booted into Ubuntu and select all drives there as well. If you don't do the dpkg-reconfigure step then this problem will return when the grub-pc package is upgraded and /boot/grub gets the new modules wit
[01:18] <rww> odd, I don't remember that being the case when I installed Ubuntu an hour ago. Oh well.
[01:18] <sagredo> from gnu.org
[01:19] <bubbasaure> daftykins, with a bootinfo run on another install the hd was erring so I had them do a new table thinking a auto-install would work, just info, carry on.
[01:19] <frsfett4> Knightshade: I have never used Fedora. Does Fedora good to install?
[01:19] <knightshade> OerHeks: I don't remember.
[01:19] <daftykins> sagredo: ah i didn't see your error messages correctly above, i thought you just got grub rescue and not the elf magic one again.
[01:19] <sagredo> daftykins: so what do we do dude
[01:20] <frsfett4> I heard Gentoo is very cool but complicated to install.
[01:20] <sagredo> daftykins: i need to get grub directed to the right partition
[01:20] <daftykins> you really are an impatient type.
[01:20] <daftykins> sagredo: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/drive /dev/sdb
[01:20] <knightshade> frsfett4: I think it's not much harder to install than ubuntu.
[01:21] <sagredo> daftykins: Installing for i386-pc platform.
[01:21] <sagredo> uhm.... wut
[01:21] <sagredo> why i386?
[01:21] <daftykins> don't worry about it.
[01:21] <sagredo> k
[01:21] <sagredo> Installation finished.  :P
[01:25] <sagredo> lol
[01:25] <sagredo> daftykins: alright, trying now
[01:25] <sagredo> brb
[01:28] <stiv2k_> daftykins: yes it works fine with the binary nvidia driver
[01:28] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i did failsafe X session, installed the binary driver, rebooted, worked
[01:28] <daftykins> stiv2k_: oh right, i assumed you had no idea how to do that since that's why you came in asking
[01:28] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the computer is only slow when doing its silly 3D effects on the windows. can i disable that?
[01:28] <daftykins> nope.
[01:28] <stiv2k_> lol
[01:28] <stiv2k_> ok
[01:28] <daftykins> unity is 3D permanent now
[01:28] <stiv2k_> ick
[01:28] <daftykins> that's why xubuntu is the better bet
[01:29] <stiv2k_> XFCE > LXDE?
[01:29] <daftykins> basically xfce would be the first step 'down' and is, to my tastes, pleasant looking
[01:29] <daftykins> i find LXDE to be just a bit TOO low end :)
[01:29] <daftykins> google some pictures maybe, see how you feel
[01:29] <stiv2k_> ok i will install it
[01:30] <daftykins> stiv2k_: i'd just grab the meta packages xubuntu-desktop for example then change session at the login screen
[01:30] <stiv2k_> daftykins: thanks
[01:32] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i am trying out plex media server for the first time on it
[01:32] <stiv2k_> the chrome cast support looks promising
[01:32] <daftykins> err good luck with that :D
[01:34] <sagredo> daftykins: not quite mate
[01:35] <sagredo> daftykins: now it's        error: invalid extent.
[01:35] <daftykins> sagredo: that's all of it, or?
[01:35] <sagredo> daftykins: yup
[01:35] <sagredo> error: invalid extent.
[01:35] <sagredo> Entering rescue mode...
[01:35] <sagredo> grub rescue>
[01:35] <daftykins> still grub rescue, or?
[01:36] <sagredo> daftykins: still grub rescue
[01:36] <stevendumani> hello ubuntu! I installed a program called "minbar" which i used to use on my previous 12.04 installation, I'm using 12.04 now too but I'm getting this: (minbar:6069): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated I tried reinstalling but no joy... any clue?
[01:36] <daftykins> sagredo: i'd only be googling.
[01:37] <sagredo> can someone help me get my grub right
[01:37] <daftykins> sagredo: damn it i said google it, not blindly ask the channel
[01:37] <Beldar> sagredo, Can we run that boot script again?
[01:37] <sagredo> Beldar: sure man
[01:37] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Sagitt
[01:37] <Beldar> sagredo, ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:37] <daftykins> whoops
[01:38] <Beldar> sorry Sagitt
[01:38] <daftykins> stevendumani: tried a purge reinstall?
[01:38] <daftykins> !info minbar precise
[01:38] <Beldar> sagredo, Do you have another usb or cd?
[01:39] <sagredo> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/SuAMY5PB
[01:39] <sagredo> Beldar: no
[01:40] <stevendumani> daftykins I installed and removed it from the software center. is there a way to purge it from the terminal?
[01:41] <daftykins> stevendumani: "sudo apt-get reinstall --purge <package>"
[01:41] <daftykins> i think you can combine purge with reinstall anywho
[01:42] <Beldar> sagredo, The HD is now sda, so it may have been in the last grub loading daftykins helped with. So again run theses commands. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:43] <daftykins> Beldar: did removing the flash drive kill the new configuration 0o
[01:43] <sagredo> Beldar: ok, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:43] <sagredo> Beldar: now what
[01:43] <Beldar> sagredo, than  copy and paste all this command sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[01:44] <Beldar> sagredo, don't ask now what.
[01:44] <sagredo> Beldar: done
[01:44] <Beldar> sagredo, Now this sudo chroot /mnt
[01:45] <sagredo> Beldar: ok
[01:45] <Beldar> sagredo, than this grub-install /dev/sda
[01:45] <sagredo> Installation finished. No error reported.
[01:45] <Beldar> sagredo, than this grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[01:46] <Beldar> sagredo, looking good just a couple more.
[01:46] <sagredo> same response
[01:46] <Beldar> sagredo, update-grub
[01:47] <sagredo> done
[01:47] <Beldar> sagredo, all in one copy and paste exit && sudo umount /mnt/sys && sudo umount /mnt/proc && sudo umount /mnt/dev/pts &&  than reboot
[01:48]  * Beldar prays now, lol
[01:48] <daftykins> >:D
[01:48] <sagredo> Beldar: thanks, giving it a go
[01:48] <Beldar> I'm listening to penn jillette and richard dawkins, it's blasphemy I know
[01:49] <ObrienDave> and helping? brave man ;P
[01:49] <Beldar> I think this was all user error in one way or another just an unexperienced user is all
[01:50] <Beldar> usb boots will switch hd's
[01:50] <lawltoad> I changed my metacity-theme xml file but ubuntu seems to be ignoring it
[01:50] <daftykins> probably more likely if someone does it wrong by changing boot order instead of one-time changing boot device
[01:50] <lawltoad> are logs or somthign I can check?
[01:51] <ObrienDave> Beldar, i meant listening to penn gillette, richard dawkins and helping LOL
[01:51] <Beldar> ;)
[01:51] <Beldar> pennSundayschool.com
[01:51] <Beldar> off topic warning
[01:52] <daftykins> doesn't he hang out with Teller anymore :/
[01:52] <Beldar> Oh yeah, just has other stuff
[01:53] <sagredo> Beldar: well done
[01:54] <sagredo> Beldar: ELF magic reconfigured
[01:54] <Beldar> sagredo, Cool, finally. We all embrace it. ;)
[01:54] <sagredo> daftykins: I bet your solution would have worked, if I didn't remove the USB drive
[01:54] <sagredo> Beldar: so in layman's terms
[01:54] <sagredo> what did you do?
[01:54] <daftykins> sagredo: could be, sounds like you configured boot wrong to me
[01:55] <sagredo> daftykins: I didn't configure boot xD
[01:55] <sagredo> ubuntu 14.04 did
[01:55] <Beldar> sagredo, I noticed in the script the HD was sda and had you do a chroot, you were actually logged into the install.
[01:55] <sagredo> so what was going on?
[01:55] <daftykins> sagredo: you misunderstand, you had to boot the flash drive somehow.
[01:56] <sagredo> Beldar: grub was just directed to the wrong partition?
[01:56] <daftykins> perhaps i should've told you to chroot prior to the grub install
[01:56] <daftykins> i dunno
[01:57] <Beldar> sagredo, No not sure it was going to the mbr not a partition, we only mounted the partition so we could chroot to it. Sometimes the method daftykins had you do although legit does not work, hard to say really.
[01:57] <sagredo> Beldar: so grub needed to be directed to the mbr
[01:58] <daftykins> lol, GRUB always lives at the MBR
[01:58] <daftykins> you need to do some homework, sir
[01:58] <sagredo> I don't pretend to put out releases
[01:58] <sagredo> I just use them xD
[01:58] <Beldar> sagredo, yeah, here is the chroot page I used save it. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[01:58] <sagredo> if anything I should report the bug
[01:59] <daftykins> i'm not sure the package at fault would get fixed
[01:59] <sagredo> so others are not distraught from using ubuntu
[01:59] <daftykins> we don't have the source code to sagredo
[01:59] <Beldar> sagredo, I don;t think there is any bug. When you use a usb booted it will switch the sda and sdb in your case, I think that was waht happened.
[01:59] <daftykins> honestly? you're the first person i've seen get that, it's mostly EFI issues today
[02:00] <sagredo> Beldar: good idea with the link
[02:00] <sagredo> will save
[02:00] <sagredo> nice to have a solid stable system again
[02:00] <sagredo> DAT FEEL
[02:00] <Beldar> I always chroot or use super grub and do it from the desktop
[02:00] <UltimaKR> Hello, I am trying to use dd to clone a drive but am very new at this...could anyone help me? i ran dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda/diskclone/img but i got the message /dev/sdb permission denied
[02:01] <sagredo> super grub? o.O
[02:01] <sagredo> never heard of it
[02:02] <reisio> sagredo: win32 nonsense
[02:03] <reisio> UltimaKR: you might need sudo
[02:03] <reisio> UltimaKR: how big is this drive?
[02:03] <UltimaKR> reisio: it is 80 gb...trying to clone it to a 160 gb drive
[02:03] <reisio> UltimaKR: what's on it?
[02:03] <UltimaKR> for directory do i use /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[02:04] <reisio> UltimaKR: directory?
[02:04] <Beldar> reisio, used by Herman who has one of the best overall sites for all kinds of technical fixes, an easy way to get in
[02:04] <cyclick> is 32bits ubuntu still recommended?
[02:04] <UltimaKR> reisio: well i mean where i am cloning TO
[02:04] <reisio> cyclick: only if you don't have a 64-bit proc
[02:04]  * Beldar waits for smart retort
[02:04] <reisio> UltimaKR: of= stands for output file
[02:05] <cyclick> reisio: thanks that is what I was thinking but I just wanted to make sure
[02:05] <reisio> UltimaKR: what's on sdb?
[02:05] <UltimaKR> reisio: sdb is a friend's HDD that is messed up because it has 0 partitions and i am trying to mount and clone it
[02:06] <reisio> UltimaKR: oh okay
[02:06] <reisio> UltimaKR: messed up in a hardware way?
[02:07] <UltimaKR> reisio: not quite sure, but it is not really recognized except by one computer as "unknown device"
[02:07] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, well
[02:08] <reisio> UltimaKR: you'll want to do dd if=foo of=bar bs=something to speed it up
[02:08] <reisio> something being lower than RAM
[02:08] <reisio> bs=1024M, for example
[02:08] <reisio> UltimaKR: and if you have trouble, try ddrescue instead
[02:08] <reisio> UltimaKR: ddrescue -n /dev/sdb path/to/file.1; ddrescue -d -r1 /dev/sdb path/to/file.2
[02:09] <Aldem> Hi all
[02:09] <UltimaKR> reisio: im sorry im really new to this...what do you mean by path to file.1
[02:09] <Aldem> Anyway to install Linux on a UEFI BIOS with Secure Linux ?
[02:09] <reisio> UltimaKR: well you can clone one disk to another disk
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: or you can clone one disk to another _file_
[02:10] <UltimaKR> reisio: And i dont really need to speed it up...i would rather it take longer and do it right
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/some/path/you/care/for/filename
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: it does it right either way
[02:10] <Beldar> Aldem, Is that a linux release?
[02:10] <reisio> that is the only purpose of dd, to copy things exactly
[02:10] <reisio> if it fails you will know it
[02:10] <UltimaKR> reisio: i would prefer to send it to a file that i can get later
[02:10] <reisio> UltimaKR: yes :)
[02:10] <reisio> files are better than disks
[02:10] <Aldem> Beldar: Well, I'd like to try Ubuntu or Fedora yes
[02:11] <UltimaKR> reisio: so like i would then type ddrescue -n if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/??
[02:11] <reisio> Aldem: secure linux?
[02:11] <morrowfart> hi all
[02:11] <Beldar> Aldem, Ubuntu can be installed that is the support here is all.
[02:11] <reisio> UltimaKR: right, only ddrescue doesn't use if= and of=, it just assumes the first argument is the input and the second the output
[02:11] <morrowfart> im having trouble with running morrowind on ubuntu with wine
[02:11] <Aldem> errrr
[02:11] <Aldem> Secure Boot
[02:11] <Aldem> Sorry
[02:12] <Aldem> UEFI Bios with Secure BOOT
[02:12] <reisio> morrowfart: did you read this? https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1015
[02:12] <stevendumani> daftykins I tried that but still have 2 problems: if I run the program with sudo it opens but gives the same Gtk-WARNINGs, and no icon in the panel, which means I can't close the program or it will be running in the background, and when I run it as a normal user it doesn't load at all
[02:12] <UltimaKR> reisio: well i can just use dd regular, but what do i put where ?? is
[02:12] <daftykins> Aldem: yes, it works out of the box
[02:12] <reisio> Aldem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:12] <morrowfart> yes i read that
[02:12] <reisio> UltimaKR: huh?
[02:12] <morrowfart> didnt help me
[02:13] <UltimaKR> reisio: i mean where i put of=/mnt/ what goes after that second /
[02:13] <morrowfart> i get an "Unknown stencil mode format" error
[02:13] <reisio> UltimaKR: any path you like, that exists
[02:13] <reisio> UltimaKR: /home/ultimakk/backup.1
[02:13] <reisio> UltimaKR: /mnt/windows/User/UltimaKR/Desktop/foo.1
[02:13] <UltimaKR> reisio: ah ok let me try...be back soon
[02:13] <reisio> whatever you like
[02:14] <morrowfart> ??
[02:14] <reisio> morrowfart: the particular wine version can be very important
[02:14] <reisio> and also the particular game version
[02:14] <morrowfart> morrowind is the last patched version
[02:14] <reisio> since some are rated platinum, if you follow any instructions, it should work without issue
[02:14] <morrowfart> with both expansions installed
[02:15] <morrowfart> i tried with 1.7.6
[02:15] <morrowfart> didnt work
[02:15] <morrowfart> and its rated platinum
[02:15] <reisio> then you probably didn't read the instructions
[02:15] <reisio> morrowfart: you've got to click the link
[02:15] <UltimaKR> reisio: i got an error: reading /dev/sdb input/output error
[02:15] <reisio> morrowfart: 1.6.1820
[02:15] <reisio> morrowfart: which goes here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3383
[02:15] <reisio> UltimaKR: use ddrescue
[02:16] <reisio> UltimaKR: and once you're done with ddrescue you can ask #hardware about things like freezing the drive and smacking it, etc. :p
[02:17] <stiv2k_> daftykins: the icons on xfce are all jacked up
[02:17] <UltimaKR> reisio: whats the form for that? do i put in 1 line: sudo ddrescue -n /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.1
[02:17] <reisio> sudo ddrescue -n /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.1; sudo ddrescue -d -r1 /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.2
[02:18] <reisio> the first tries to grab the data that it can that it isn't getting errors for
[02:18] <reisio> the second tries real hard, for everything
[02:18] <daftykins> stiv2k_: pic?
[02:20] <UltimaKR> reisio: /var/lib/sudo/ultimakr/0: read only file system is what i got
[02:21] <reisio> UltimaKR: is this an Ubuntu install, or the live image?
[02:22] <UltimaKR> reisio: this is lubuntu installed from a livedvd
[02:22] <reisio> UltimaKR: what path did you use? Presumably one to a filesystem that is not read-write
[02:24] <UltimaKR> reisio: i did in 1 line: sudo ddrescue -n /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.1; sudo ddrescue -d -r1 /dev/sdb /home/ultimakr/backup.2
[02:25] <reisio> UltimaKR: is /home/ultimakr/ a real place?
[02:26] <UltimaKR> reisio: i havent a clue, i just followed what you said lol...ultimakr is what the computer is named so i figured that was right
[02:26] <reisio> UltimaKR: heheh, okay
[02:26] <reisio> UltimaKR: you use... Windows normally?
[02:27] <UltimaKR> reisio: on my main computer yes, but it didnt recognize this drive AT ALL
[02:27] <UltimaKR> reisio: this is the only one that has even acknowledged it as an "unknown device"
[02:27] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, y'know like 'C:\Windows\fonts'?
[02:27] <reisio> that's a path, on Windows
[02:27] <UltimaKR> reisio: right
[02:27] <reisio> in Unix it'd be /Windows/fonts
[02:28] <reisio> but it has to be a place that exists
[02:28] <c|oneman> my dist-upgrade ssh session got at the part where it starts asking you questions about configuration files that have changed
[02:28] <c|oneman> what should I do?
[02:28] <reisio> UltimaKR: so maybe try instead of /home/ultimakr/backup.1, try ~/backup.1
[02:28] <reisio> UltimaKR: which will save the file to 'backup.1' in your user's home directory
[02:28] <c|oneman> got cut off*
[02:28] <UltimaKR> reisio: but when i go to file manager the default place is /home/ultimakr
[02:29] <reisio> UltimaKR: hum, must be some sudo nonsense
[02:29] <reisio> UltimaKR: try it without sudo
[02:29] <UltimaKR> ok be right back
[02:30] <UltimaKR> reisio: bash: /usr/lib/command-not-found: input/output error appears twice
[02:31] <reisio> UltimaKR: what does 'which ddrescue' say?
[02:31] <et09> i installed libbullet-dev, how would i figure out how to link the system copy with g++?
[02:31] <UltimaKR> reisio: the one i just told you was without sudo, the other error was with
[02:31] <lawltoad> How do I strip off the header bar using gtk3 themeing
[02:32] <reisio> UltimaKR: huh?
[02:32] <UltimaKR> reisio: what are you asking? the bash error is without sudo, the /var/lib/sudo error was with
[02:33] <reisio> UltimaKR: 'which ddrescue', it's a command
[02:33] <reisio> that's why I put it in quotes :)
[02:33] <Geo> I have a program that overwrites one line to a file regularly... is there a command I can use to continually update to my screen what the contents of that file are? I want to be able to observe when that line changes from 'foo' to 'bar'
[02:33] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i dont know, only some of the icons worked
[02:33] <stiv2k_> daftykins: i cant show you a screenshot without revealing stuff
[02:34] <reisio> Geo: watch
[02:34] <Geo> watch what?
[02:34] <reisio> Geo: or a while loop
[02:34] <Geo> ;)
[02:34] <reisio> Geo: 'watch'
[02:34] <UltimaKR> reisio: ohhh....so which ddrescue and nothing else on the line?
[02:34] <reisio> UltimaKR: right
[02:34] <daftykins> stiv2k_: edit? ;)
[02:34] <daftykins> stiv2k_: you said that thing's wirelessly connected, ja?
[02:34] <UltimaKR> reisio: that did nothing...gave me another command line
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: watch grep bar path/to/file
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: or: while(true); do grep bar path/to/file; sleep 1s; done
[02:35] <Geo> if its just one line, I could cat, couldn't I?
[02:35] <Geo> or is there some consquence to that
[02:35] <reisio> UltimaKR: well that is odd, but I'm guessing you don't have ddrescue installed, sudo apt-get install ddrescue
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: no particular consequence
[02:35] <reisio> Geo: tail -f might even work
[02:35] <reisio> dunno
[02:35] <Geo> ok, thank you
[02:36] <Geo> have a good night
[02:36] <reisio> nope, tail doesn't work :)
[02:36] <UltimaKR> reisio: this is even odder: 2 errors: sudo: unable to open /var....input/output error
[02:37] <reisio> UltimaKR: ...kind of sounds like _your_ hard disk is failing :p
[02:37] <UltimaKR> reisio: and sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/apt-get: input/output error
[02:37] <UltimaKR> reisio: which hard drive though
[02:37] <reisio> UltimaKR: the one your OS is on
[02:37] <UltimaKR> reisio: does this possibly have anything to do with lubuntu 12.10?
[02:37] <reisio> UltimaKR: nope
[02:38] <reisio> UltimaKR: run 'cd' first, then sudo apt-get install ddrescue
[02:38] <stiv2k_> daftykins: yes it is
[02:38] <UltimaKR> reisio: and do you mean the one lubuntu is on, or the one im trying to get stuff off?
[02:38] <UltimaKR> reisio: cd to where?
[02:38] <reisio> UltimaKR: both
[02:38] <reisio> UltimaKR: just 'cd'
[02:38] <TJ-> reisio: "tail -F -s 2 /tmp/test" will work for a file being truncated and rewritten
[02:39] <daftykins> stiv2k_: mmm that's a pain, really i'd have just purged ubuntu-desktop and installed xubuntu-desktop after, but that's awkward with wifi
[02:39] <daftykins> well not purged ubuntu-d, just remove
[02:39] <UltimaKR> reisio: no difference
[02:40] <reisio> TJ-: sounds like GNU bloat :D
[02:40] <stiv2k_> daftykins: my internet is pretty fast
[02:40] <stiv2k_> can i have it auto login to xfce
[02:40] <reisio> UltimaKR: well i/o errors are bad
[02:40] <daftykins> stiv2k_: right, but to login at a TTY and remove ubuntu-desktop, you lose wireless connection
[02:41] <UltimaKR> reisio: So i see lol
[02:41] <reisio> UltimaKR: see if anything changes if you disconnect the broken drive
[02:41] <stiv2k_> daftykins: why
[02:41] <UltimaKR> reisio: LOL the entire computer just rebooted
[02:41] <evil_dan2wik> Is it safe to change my wifi card with my computer on?
[02:41] <evil_dan2wik> laptop*
[02:41] <daftykins> stiv2k_: sorry but i'm off the clock now, download xubuntu and burn another DVD to make life easier
[02:42] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay
[02:42] <jorge2> is last.fm powered by gnu fm?
[02:42] <reisio> UltimaKR: then you were obviously using the OS on the "broken" drive
[02:42] <daftykins> unless someone else wants to assist
[02:42] <reisio> UltimaKR: can you not tell the difference between your friend's OS and your own? :)
[02:42] <reisio> jorge2: nawp
[02:42] <sydney> daftykins: your off the clock?
[02:43] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: depends on the type of card :)
[02:43] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: if it's a card that slides in and out of a slot on the side, most likely yes
[02:43] <UltimaKR> reisio: my friend has windows so it is really easy to tell them apart :D
[02:43] <jorge2> what is nawp?
[02:43] <daftykins> sydney: correct, only without the gramattical error
[02:43] <daftykins> -typo
[02:43] <reisio> UltimaKR: k...
[02:44] <sydney> daftykins: what do you mean by that?
[02:44] <daftykins> sydney: this isn't English class, this is ubuntu support
[02:44] <sydney> Iknow,but please say stuff that makes sense. :P
[02:45] <daftykins> it does make sense, you're the only one asking
[02:46] <sydney> i drop my case...
[02:46] <daftykins> good
[02:46] <daftykins> 'cause i'm off the clock \o/
[02:46] <UltimaKR> reisio: ok now im really confused because the computer wont boot at all
[02:47] <reisio> UltimaKR: that'd make sense if your drive was failing
[02:48] <UltimaKR> reisio: so is one drive screwing up the other or is this pure coincidence?
[02:48] <reisio> UltimaKR: it's one of those things :)
[02:49] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Are these drives connected on the same IDE controller, as Primary and Slave drives?
[02:49] <UltimaKR> TJ- yes, but i was told to unhook the slave
[02:49] <evil_dan2wik> reisio, the card is easily accessable from under the laptop.
[02:50] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: underneath a chassis panel?
[02:50] <evil_dan2wik> yes
[02:50] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: those are meant to be added/removed while the system is off, but realistically I couldn't comment, #hardware will know
[02:50] <evil_dan2wik> 2 screws and it is out, but will ubuntu find it after it is chaged?
[02:50] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Triple-check the jumper settings on the drives, and don't trust the label on the drive itself. Just last week I had exactly the same issue with a drive inserted into my 'caddy' machine for doing data recovery, I configured the jumpers according to the label and was getting disk I/O errors. Eventually I searched the web and found a manual which showed different jumper settings. I changed the drive to match and it worked fine
[02:51] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: ask #hardware if it's not unsafe, then you can easily test yourself
[02:51] <UltimaKR> TJ- but the drive that is supposed to boot has not changed, so why all of a sudden can i not boot?
[02:51] <reisio> jumpers :p
[02:51] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: no it really really is not safe
[02:51] <TJ-> UltimaKR: upset the connectors whilst messing with the recovery drive?
[02:51] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: why would you even consider that?
[02:52] <reisio> well, given that you have few other options, you may as well assume a magical elf came in and changed your drive hardware configuration
[02:52] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: If the card is in a mini PCIe slot then in theory that should support hot-plug by default
[02:52] <UltimaKR> TJ-: the regular one was secured in the driver bay untouched...it is a test computer with no data...should i wipe and reinstall lubuntu, but this time 14?
[02:53] <TJ-> UltimaKR: OK, have you considered there's a PSU starvation issue going on?
[02:53] <TJ-> UltimaKR: adding the additional drive could have overloaded the PSU
[02:53] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, the wifi card is failing but I am not allowed to turn this laptop off.
[02:53] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: what? why
[02:54] <Beldar> aware parents is my guess
[02:55] <UltimaKR> TJ- no i didnt...it was working fine before...what would that have to do with boot failure though? the comp turns and shows bios
[02:56] <TJ-> UltimaKR: I'm thinking of scenarios that can account for your reports. If the PSU is failing maybe when the drives spin up the load is too much. Stranger things have been know.
[02:56] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Does the BIOS 'see' the drive and report its details?
[02:56] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, this laptop isn't mine but they said I can't turn it off because of some processing thing.
[02:56] <reisio> he disconnected the new drive
[02:57] <reisio> so it's just the original drive now
[02:57] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: 'they' ? you're making zero sense here
[02:57] <reisio> UltimaKR: what all do you see when it tries to boot up?
[02:57] <TJ-> UltimaKR: It could be something as simple as the boot order had changed
[02:57] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, This laptop isn't mine, I need to replace the wifi card for the person who owns it.
[02:58] <sydney> What are some usb mini wifi cards that i know will work with ubuntu 14.04 and get pretty good signal,and are cheap?
[02:58] <evil_dan2wik> They said I can't turn it off.
[02:58] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: but why :p
[02:58] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: and somehow they brought it to you with something still running, asking you to perform a job that you can't? this doesn't add up. don't even try it.
[02:58] <UltimaKR> TJ-: Well something happened...i turned everything off, reconnected everything, discharged the battery (did that first of course), and now it did an ide configuaration thing
[02:58] <UltimaKR> but now i see secondary 0 and 1 both not found
[02:59] <TJ-> UltimaKR: check the connections on the motherboard
[02:59] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, we work near eachother
[02:59] <TJ-> UltimaKR: and, check the power connectors haven't been dislodged
[02:59] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: they said you can't turn it off and you said "okay, that seems reasonable"? :)
[02:59] <reisio> is it top secret why you can't?
[02:59] <evil_dan2wik> I can ask
[02:59] <evil_dan2wik> but I said I would try to do it.
[02:59] <reisio> okay, well
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Sounds like an initiative test to me
[03:00] <reisio> you could ask #hardware if it's safe to remove and add cards while a system is running
[03:00] <reisio> and then you can know the answer beforehand
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: is it a mini PCIe card?
[03:00] <DaOiSTs> any one know about laptop cameras not being detected on ubuntu 14.4?
[03:00] <daftykins> no i'm telling you it's not safe
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, yes.
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Or, does it report on the USB bus?
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, PCI-E
[03:00] <daftykins> it will go bang.
[03:00] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: As I already said, PCIe was designed to be hot-pluggable
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[03:00] <Beldar> hmm they are smart enough to have a process running but not aware enough on the card.
[03:00] <evil_dan2wik> Well I guess I will try then.
[03:01] <UltimaKR> TJ-: just checked connectors and still see "strike f1 to retry boot, f2 for setup utility"
[03:01] <daftykins> big mistake
[03:01] <reisio> how's it a big mistake if it was designed for that?
[03:01] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Well, you've changed something vital
[03:02] <daftykins> reisio: heh, guess you don't do much hardware
[03:02] <UltimaKR> TJ-: so what can i do?
[03:02] <reisio> lolololol
[03:02] <evil_dan2wik> Wifi card is out, laptop is still responding.
[03:02] <reisio> way to answer a reasonable question :p
[03:02] <reisio> evil_dan2wik: I'm sure it'll be a big mistake eventually :p
[03:02] <UltimaKR> TJ-: this computer was working fine, but once it rebooted, it wouldnt do just that
[03:02] <TJ-> UltimaKR: figure out what has changed!
[03:02] <daftykins> sorry but i'm watching a program and it's far too late for me to give you a full explanation
[03:02] <reisio> UltimaKR: got somethign else you can try the drive on?
[03:03] <reisio> daftykins: any explanation would've sufficed
[03:03] <daftykins> reisio: 'ain't nobody got time for that'
[03:03] <Beldar> reisio, You have nothing to stand on you do it all the time. I'm in their ignore probably
[03:04] <UltimaKR> reisio: try which drive? both are failing now lol
[03:04] <reisio> yeah you've only got time to say you don't have time
[03:04] <reisio> UltimaKR: whichever you're interested in the most
[03:04] <reisio> Beldar: whose ignore?
[03:05] <Beldar> the majic elf's
[03:05] <UltimaKR> reisio: Well in this case I feel as though the normal drive is not the issue, because the computer is having major issues with both secondary drives, too
[03:06] <UltimaKR> reisio: it says both cd rom drives are not installed, and i never touched them
[03:06] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, then it's probably not the drive, which is good in a way
[03:06] <reisio> if you don't have a backup :)
[03:06] <reisio> and less good if you do (as drives are cheaper than computers)
[03:07] <daftykins> he's still dealing with PATA from what i saw earlier, the whole thing should be buried
[03:07] <UltimaKR> reisio: well either way its not that devastating, im talking to you on my main computer, and there is another one sitting next to the one we are working on
[03:07] <reisio> UltimaKR: heheheh
[03:07] <reisio> UltimaKR: okay, so, you could just try the ddrescue stuff from one of those, then
[03:07] <UltimaKR> reisio: this time the lubuntu dvd booted, so i am going to do a fresh install and replace 12.10 with 14
[03:07] <TJ-> UltimaKR: Have you damaged some pins on the IDE connectors?
[03:08] <UltimaKR> reisio: I cant do that stuff on the other one, it only takes SATA drives
[03:08] <UltimaKR> TJ-: no i havent, especially not on the cdrom drives
[03:09] <reisio> UltimaKR: good times
[03:10] <reisio> ata<->usb adapters/enclosures are maybe $20
[03:10] <reisio> handy to have around
[03:12] <UltimaKR> reisio: interestingly, i have the sata/ide to usb adapter, but the other computer couldnt recognize the broken drive from the start
[03:15] <evil_dan2wik> Well anyway, I connected the new wifi card and the laptop turned off, and then the wifi card burst into flames.
[03:16] <reisio> UltimaKR: problems :)
[03:17] <Beldar> oh my
[03:17] <evil_dan2wik> It blew off the metal cover and dropped out a few small microchips.
[03:18] <Beldar> 2 points daftykins
[03:19] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[03:19] <Beldar> lol one of the kings of offtopic samthewildone
[03:20] <Beldar> never helping just taking
[03:20] <daftykins> \o/
[03:20] <jorge2> how do I encrypt my ram and swap? and how do I disable hibernate?
[03:21] <OerHeks> ram encryption, no such thing :-D
[03:21] <Beldar> jorge2, Hibernate is off, if you encrypt the HD the swap is to.
[03:21] <jorge2> there is for swap why not ram too?
[03:21] <samthewildone> Beldar, :D
[03:22] <samthewildone> Beldar, I just keep forgetting to add that channel to favs
[03:22] <Beldar> samthewildone, Ah, my mistake.
[03:22] <jorge2> I just have my home folder encrypted Beldar
[03:22] <Beldar> jorge2, Than swap should be.
[03:23] <UltimaKR> reisio: well the new lubuntu install is going smoothly...not certain i want to stick the other drive back in lol
[03:23] <reisio> :p
[03:23] <jorge2> how can I know for sure is there a command? Beldar
[03:23] <Beldar> well the Os encrypted is anyway, look in gparted
[03:23] <Beldar> jorge2, NOt sure I never encrypt
[03:24] <UltimaKR> reisio: if this install works to completion, i may just ask my friend what on earth is on that drive...pay $10 to buy another off ebay
[03:24] <reisio> jorge2: there's no need to encrypt ram, it'd be full of encrypted information
[03:24] <Beldar> probably a fstab notation a live would shoe it as unallocated jorge2
[03:24] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/248158/how-do-i-setup-an-encrypted-swap-file
[03:26] <OerHeks> when your /home/  is encrypted, swap is turned off, AFAIK
[03:27] <MavKen> is swap cleared on reboot?
[03:28] <TJ-> OerHeks: encrypted home doesn't affect encrypted swap; both are there
[03:28] <jorge2> not sure if I am going to use swap next time I do a fresh install
[03:29] <jorge2> I monitor system resources on many linux systems and I never had to use the swap partition
[03:30] <evil_dan2wik> So it looks like the laptop is still fine, the hot plug of the new wifi card must have triggered the card to explode.
[03:31] <reisio> nice
[03:31] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Did you insert it with fingers on tracks, or without keeping it aligned in the slot as it was pressed down into flat position? It sounds like you shorted out the power and ground rails
[03:31] <evil_dan2wik> Just some scorched motherboard traces.
[03:31] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: i feel like you're not being honest
[03:32] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, I made sue it was aligned.
[03:32] <evil_dan2wik> I can take photos if you want.
[03:33] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: Well, I wish I could make mini PCIe cards spontaneously combust! I've never had a problem in years of hot-plugging
[03:33] <daftykins> it was ridiculous of you to advise such a needlessly risky activity
[03:33] <daftykins> all for a sake of impatience
[03:33] <daftykins> however i still don't fully believe this conversation :P
[03:35] <UltimaKR> Whoa I go for 5 minutes to fresh install lubuntu and i miss an explosion?
[03:35] <TJ-> daftykins: same here, but its an entertaining idea... now if we can just write malware  to cause Wifi cards to reset and hotplug themselves...!
[03:35] <daftykins> -_-
[03:35] <OerHeks> grinn "wifi - don't try this @home"
[03:35] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: awaiting pics
[03:36] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, booting phone.
[03:41] <daftykins> evil_dan2wik: do you have to hand-crank it maybe?
[03:42] <evil_dan2wik> NO.
[03:42] <evil_dan2wik> sry caps
[03:43] <evil_dan2wik> I took the photos but the phone keeps turning off.
[03:44] <evil_dan2wik> I'll let it charge.
[03:44] <evil_dan2wik> Sorry this is taking so long.
[03:44] <daftykins> nah you're just a liar, it's ok
[03:45] <daftykins> g'bye then
[03:45] <UltimaKR> whats going on here? what exactly exploded or didnt explode
[03:46] <daftykins> UltimaKR: general chat is verboten.
[03:46] <UltimaKR> then why do i see so much of it
[03:47] <UltimaKR> with you at the center, i might add
[03:47] <OerHeks> evil_dan2wik, before you can file a bugreport, you must try to reproduce the situation
[03:47]  * TJ- guffaws :)
[03:47] <daftykins> UltimaKR: i would recommend you don't argue
[03:48] <TJ-> Much as I'd like to stay and see the photos, I have to go patrolling for a missing Husky
[03:48] <daftykins> it'll put you in the naughty corner
[03:48] <daftykins> TJ-: good luck sir
[03:48] <UltimaKR> daftykins: Who are you exactly? I'm 100% on evil's side now
[03:49] <daftykins> UltimaKR: doesn't the name badge explain all?
[03:49] <UltimaKR> Thank you very much to TJ- and reisio! Helped me learn a lot tonight.
[03:49] <daftykins> honestly users these days.
[03:49] <samthewildone> TJ-, sup
[03:49]  * samthewildone throws TJ- a ice cold beer
[03:49] <TJ-> g'morning/g'night/g'riddance :)
[03:58] <hank1to> hello
[04:00] <hank1to> how to network home
[04:05] <evil_dan2wik> daftykins, got a place I can upload to?  I went to get the dog-leads and noticed the bowl left out in the yard was empty... the Husky had returned... after 6 hours (she opened a gate at 11pm)
[04:09] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, uploading it now.
[04:10] <orb> Using iphet, shadaloo?
[04:10] <Beldar> shadaloo, Should show in home side panel, maybe media other wise.
[04:10] <samthewildone> shadaloo, doesn't a dialog pop up ?
[04:10] <shadaloo> hey Beldar
[04:10]  * samthewildone runs from Beldar
[04:11] <shadaloo> I'm trying to access this location afc://5913d28f292300e02731b57fc992148fc80d1be7:3/org.videolan.vlc-ios
[04:11] <shadaloo> if that makes sense?
[04:11] <evil_dan2wik> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4qtUORxzq9jSUkzVVJhRHg3S28&usp=sharing
[04:11] <evil_dan2wik> there we go.
[04:12] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, daftykins
[04:12] <shadaloo> samthewildone: yeah i can access the files in nautilus but I want to access them from the term
[04:12] <samthewildone> oh like mnt/
[04:13] <shadaloo> right
[04:13] <shadaloo> mnt is empty
[04:13] <samthewildone> media ?
[04:13] <samthewildone> "/media"
[04:14] <shadaloo> only USB drive is listed
[04:14] <shadaloo> in /media
[04:14] <samthewildone> damn
[04:14] <shadaloo> yeah
[04:14] <shadaloo> no idea what this afc:// means
[04:14] <samthewildone>  I know theres a cmdline code that lists all connected devicess
[04:14] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, you see it?
[04:15] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: I do, what is the make/model of the PC?
[04:15] <shadaloo> i guess it's in gvfs
[04:15] <Wug> is http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.8.3.orig.tar.xz 403 for anyone else
[04:15] <samthewildone> shadaloo, try df-h
[04:16] <samthewildone> or df -m
[04:16] <kwerk> shadaloo, can you access http://chrispo.org:5000 from vlc?
[04:16] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, Acer aspire something
[04:16] <samthewildone> kwerk, he wants to access via term
[04:16] <evil_dan2wik> let me get the box
[04:16] <kwerk> oh
[04:16] <SonikkuAmerica> I think I knocked off /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ accidentally, but my (64-bit) system still seems to be working... should I reinstall anyway or what?
[04:16] <Tex_Nick> shadaloo: if you can see the directory in nautilus ... try dragging it into the teriminal window ?
[04:17] <Tex_Nick> terminel*
[04:17] <shadaloo> terminal* ;D
[04:17] <shadaloo> kwerk: what is that?
[04:17] <samthewildone> term
[04:17] <samthewildone> Tex_Nick, good idea
[04:18] <samthewildone> Tex_Nick, simple yet effective.
[04:18] <kwerk> My living room.
[04:18] <shadaloo> nice Tex_Nick
[04:18] <shadaloo> that did it, it was in /run
[04:18] <samthewildone> lemme see
[04:18] <shadaloo> kwerk: let me try ^^
[04:18] <Tex_Nick> shadaloo: great ;)
[04:19] <Wug> who maintains us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <Wug> they need to be shouted at
[04:19] <jorge2> what is a good tutorial on ssh tunneling?
[04:19] <samthewildone> COOL
[04:19] <samthewildone> I see people !
[04:19] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, Acer Aspire 1830T
[04:20] <samthewildone> kwerk, im gonna hack your house now
[04:20] <Wug> jorge2: if by tunneling you mean "running unsecure applications through a secure SSH tunnel", you're going to want to look at SSH's -R, -L, and -D options
[04:20] <samthewildone> kwerk, watch im gonna hack your lights
[04:20] <kwerk> uh oh
[04:20] <Wug> just read the entries for them in the man page
[04:20] <Wug> (man ssh)
[04:20] <samthewildone> kwerk, better yet, I'll use your house as a node
[04:20] <shadaloo> kwerk: yes i am to, lol
[04:20] <Wug> -R and -L are dumb port forwards, and -D is a socks proxy
[04:20] <kwerk> oh great
[04:21] <shadaloo> i think i see you on your pc
[04:21] <shadaloo> lol
[04:21] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, anything else?
[04:21] <kwerk> yeah, it's pointed right at me
[04:22] <evil_dan2wik> now start twerking.
[04:22] <samthewildone> kwerk, sit down
[04:22] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: No, but it looks as if it was already majorly damaged - the entire front chassis/cover is missing (right side of the photo)
[04:22] <kwerk> heh
[04:22] <samthewildone> kwerk, blue shirt really
[04:23] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, it was, yes.
[04:23] <kwerk> yeah
[04:23] <kwerk> ok, time to turn the cam the other way
[04:23] <samthewildone> is it remote from the desktop ?
[04:24] <jorge2> Wug when you have ssh on a machine if I connect to that machine can I copy files from that connection to the machine connecting to it... also can you do remote desktop via ssh?
[04:24] <kwerk> is what?
[04:25] <kwerk> no, it's a box that houses all my media.
[04:25] <kwerk> and runs that cam all the time with motion.
[04:25] <samthewildone> oh its motion actv
[04:25] <samthewildone> nice
[04:25] <Wug> jorge2: you can run programs remotely with X forwarding (the -X option turns this on) if you have a local X server running (if you're on windows theres xming) but its not really the same as remote desktop.  For secure file transfers over a network, use scp (which uses ssh as a backend).
[04:25] <kwerk> yeah
[04:25] <samthewildone> now add a minigun to it.
[04:25] <kwerk> actually, it can also be seen at http://cam.chrispo.org
[04:26] <kwerk> if you have vlc.
[04:26] <samthewildone> minigun + laser to make it a real home defense
[04:26] <kwerk> in theory. It doesn't always work with everyone's setup.
[04:26] <kwerk> hmm
[04:26] <samthewildone> *this plugin is not supported
[04:26] <kwerk> yeah, i gotta find something better to stream with.
[04:26] <samthewildone> i have vlc but, probably not the web version
[04:26] <samthewildone> brb
[04:28] <kwerk> cheesus, it's a mess in here
[04:31] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: I can see what you did... it wasn't the connecting into the pcie slot that caused it. On the main PCB at the 'top' end of the pcie card are several power rails and transistors, looking at the adapter card it looks as if the metal RF grounding shield on the underside of the adapter shorted directly to one of those power rails, causing a huge current flow that caused it to go pop.
[04:31] <Wug> who do I have to yell at in order to fix a broken package mirror
[04:32] <TJ-> Wug: the mirrors team?
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> TJ-, Where did I touch?
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> Oh, I see now.
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> wow, I didn't even see that there.
[04:35] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: It's bad design for sure
[04:36] <TJ-> especially when the adapter has an unprotected metal grounding can
[04:37] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[04:37] <evil_dan2wik> But still my fault right?
[04:37] <artistalobo> hi
[04:39] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: The thing looks to be a terrible state anyhow, no telling if something wasn't out of place to cause that. You said the previous adapter was faulty, with the damage I can see, I wouldn't be surprised if it extended to affecting that slot
[04:41] <botnut> hi all
[04:42] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody know how to report bug for gitk, a GUI manager for git?
[04:42] <jellow> hello botnut
[04:42] <Malsasa> I mean, what is the official site? Or the email? I can't find them on manpage or by googling.
[04:43] <Beldar> !bug | Malsasa Be sure it's an actual bug
[04:44] <botnut> anyhow have issues running ubuntu 14.04 desktop in vmware player on a high dpi screen - i.e. 3200x1800?
[04:44] <TJ-> Malsasa: see http://git-scm.com/community
[04:44] <botnut> running into a lot of issues and cant figure out how to resolve it
[04:44] <Malsasa> TJ-: thank you so much.
[04:44] <Malsasa> Beldar: thank you.
[04:45] <botnut> ive been the same vm for a long time now - and just upgraded my laptop
[04:46] <botnut> since its a vm - i justcopied it over thinking everything would be fine -
[04:46] <botnut> but the high res threw everything off - and now - get an error every time i boot
[04:47] <TJ-> evil_dan2wik: This is what it *should* look like http://www.notebookreview.com/picture/?f=55359
[04:51] <botnut> anyone?
[04:51] <Beldar> botnut, Virtualbox?
[04:51] <botnut> vmware
[04:52] <botnut> i get the error and one thing i notice
[04:52] <botnut> i cannot switch themes
[04:52] <botnut> it  wants to stay on ambiance
[04:52] <botnut> if i switch to radiance - it only partially switches it over
[04:53] <Beldar> botnut, I would try #vmware
[04:53] <botnut> well its not vmware
[04:53] <botnut> i created a new vm - fresh install
[04:53] <botnut> and there is no problem
[04:53] <botnut> the fresh install works great
[04:53] <botnut> i can switch themes and do what i want
[04:53] <botnut> on the old vm - it wont budge
[04:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey when my computer shuts down, the internal clock resets and gives me errors; can this in any way be related to the kernel/operating system?
[04:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I need to make sure this is not a software fault before I ask for a warranty.
[04:55] <Nexuus> sounds like you've got a bad battery in your machine Akiva-Thinkpad
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, that is what I think. I let my computer run on a low battery, and it shut down; this is when the problems started happening.
[04:56] <Nexuus> are you on a laptop?
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, yah
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, care to guess which one ^_^
[04:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ?
[04:57] <Nexuus> you have the battery...but then there's also a small battery that's on the motherboard...
[04:57] <botnut> beldar - ive spent a lot of time looking around and some people have reported the same - even without virtualization
[04:57] <Nexuus> it sounds like that's the one that's probably bad.
[04:57] <botnut> its related to the high dpi screen - 3200x1800 rez
[04:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Nexuus, yah that was my assumption too; but I have another strange problem
[04:57] <samthewildone> opps
[04:57] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[04:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> when my computer is on battery, and I plug in my adapter, this causes the laptop to reboot.
[04:58] <samthewildone> kwerk, still hosting your life ?
[04:58] <kwerk> oh, i just forget the camera is there.
[04:59] <samthewildone> Akiva-Thinkpad, common
[04:59] <botnut> akiva - assuming this is a thinkpad - sounds like a power / battery issue
[04:59] <samthewildone> Akiva-Thinkpad, what happens ... as soon as the government notice that your trying to juice up your laptop the short the power so they can insert a trojan
[05:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> heh
[05:00] <botnut> akiva - i do know - that lenova has a some firmware fixes for their batteries and power issues - might want to check their support site for that
[05:00] <kwerk> i've discovered colloquy-mobile and znc are a winning combination.
[05:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> botnut; that is very helpful
[05:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thank you
[05:08] <vijai> Hello
[05:08] <vijai> need some help
[05:08] <vijai> I have windows 8.1 and installed ubuntu 12.04 for dual boot
[05:09] <vijai> but while installing ubuntu, it says removing conflicting os and installs grub
[05:09] <vijai> after  that, I'm not able to boot into win 8.1 at all
[05:09] <vijai> if I select 8.1, it goes back to grub
[05:10] <Beldar> vijai, In the ubuntu terminal run sudo parted -l and pastebin all the results
[05:11] <vijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8068445/
[05:11] <vijai> sdb is where both os is installed and also the bootloader
[05:14] <Beldar> vijai, I see 5 ntfs partitions, including 3 in an extended, so in a cursory glance it looks like W8 is probably still there, not sure of a fix is all. I wondered from your description if it was over written.
[05:15] <Beldar> 6 ntfs actually
[05:15] <vijai> No, the sda is my storage hdd
[05:15] <vijai> I always have sda removed from mobo while installing os
[05:15] <vijai> sdb is my ssd
[05:16] <vijai> and no os resides in sda
[05:16] <Beldar> !bootinfo | vijai, run this script and pastebin the output.
[05:18] <Beldar> vijai, Did you resize W8 with ubuntu on the install?
[05:18] <vijai> nope
[05:18] <vijai> I installed windows first
[05:18] <vijai> used windows to repartiton
[05:19] <vijai> left 40 odd gb for linux as unpartitioned
[05:19] <vijai> then installed ubuntu in it
[05:19] <kwerk> seems that usually has worked for me in W7
[05:19] <Beldar> vijai, Good, did you reboot it for the auto chkdsk?
[05:19] <Beldar> before installing ubuntu
[05:19] <vijai> I couldnt get past grub to do any checks on windows
[05:20] <Beldar> vijai, Before the ubuntu install.
[05:20] <vijai> yeah... installed windows, booted it, installed updates
[05:20] <vijai> then only ubuntu
[05:20] <vijai> infact was working on it for like 4 hours or so
[05:20] <Beldar> vijai, When you resized W8 did you reboot it to make sure it was still working?
[05:22] <vijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8068498/
[05:22] <vijai> boot info pastebin
[05:22] <Beldar> vijai, When you resize windows it often does an auto chkdsk, that is the question.
[05:22] <vijai> I did not resize windows during ubuntu install at all
[05:22] <vijai> I installed windows 8.1 during when i did remove linux partition
[05:23] <TechCel> how can I check when the last updates were run? I'm having a production issue and nothing seems to have changed...
[05:23] <vijai> then booted to win 8.1, updated it successfully
[05:23] <vijai> then installed linux in the deleted partition formatting it to ext4
[05:23] <Beldar> vijai, You seem to not understand, however you put grub in the windows boot. Open windows from ubuntu, in the search type grub and any that comes up delete. Be sure the search is in windows.
[05:24] <vijai> sorry, I seem not to understand
[05:24] <vijai> open windows from ubuntu?
[05:24] <vijai> how?
[05:26] <Beldar> vijai, look on the bootscript at sdb1 the boot partition notice the grub there, this can be cleaned out if you can open it. Or you can move the boot flag to sdb2 and run some commands from the W8 disc booted to a terminal.
[05:26] <kwerk> that seems like a lot of partitions
[05:27] <Beldar> vijai, In ubuntu you would see W8 in the sidebar, however probably not the boot partition, so we might just have to boot the windows disc and run the commands, I can give them to you to have and run.
[05:28] <vijai> I tried fixing mbr once from windows disc
[05:28] <vijai> it said success
[05:28] <vijai> but no real success
[05:28] <Beldar> vijai, That wont fix grub in your boot partiton.
[05:29] <TechCel> anyone here familiar with HAProxy?
[05:29] <vijai> ok... What I do now to fix?
[05:29] <Beldar> vijai, Install gparted in ubuntu and open it.
[05:30] <Beldar> vijai, we are going to make sdb2 the booting partition by adding /bootmgr /Boot/BCD to it with the commands.
[05:30] <vijai> yeah installed
[05:32] <Beldar> vijai, right click sdb2-mount flags and click boot we want it to have the boot flag.
[05:32] <Beldar> in gparted of course
[05:33] <vijai> ok so i right click sdb2 and select boot flags?
[05:33] <vijai> manage flags*
[05:34] <Beldar> vijai, yeah
[05:34] <Beldar> vijai, mange flags then click on boot.
[05:34] <noidea> what is a good option to transfer files and folders to another hdd with a progress bar?
[05:34] <Beldar> manage*
[05:35] <vijai> done
[05:35] <vijai> next?
[05:36] <Beldar> vijai, So now sdb2 is the boot partiton it will show up in the terminal you ran in before on the windows disc, here is the link for your commands. http://pastebin.com/75DTPAui
[05:37] <vijai> ok so after I do that, I reinstall grub?
[05:37] <Beldar> vijai, You may need to run after all this is done if windows just does not boot sudo update-grub in ubuntu. No this will not overwrite the mbr.
[05:37] <vijai> oh... ok... thanks :)
[05:37] <vijai> will try now
[05:38] <Beldar> vijai, Cool, Do not remove sda1 it will be useless, but just leave it is all.
[05:38] <Beldar> sorry sdb1
[05:39] <e1e> hi
[05:40] <jorge_> hola
[05:40] <vijai> ok.. thank you beldar :)
[05:40] <Beldar> vijai, You should be set, I have to take off in about 5 minutes for about a half hour is all to do  short job I do.
[05:40] <Beldar> no problem
[05:41] <jorge_> i don't understand ubuntu
[05:41] <Beldar> vijai, I will be back by 45 min from now if there is an issue.
[05:45] <sandrodz> Hello, is there anyone experienced with charybdis IRC server here? Nobody seems to know anything :|
[05:47] <rww> sandrodz: ask #atheme on irc.atheme.org?
[05:56] <evil_dan2wik> kwerk, turn the lights back on.
[06:08] <trijntje> Hi all, I have two folders of around 80 GB each and I want to see the differences between them.  You can use testdisk
[06:37] <trijntje> ok, new question, since that folder diff is massive. Is there a tool to subtract one directory from another. Meaning: I want to remove from folder A every file that is also present in folder B
[06:38] <trijntje> that way, I can just use nautilus after running it to check out any files that are unique to folder A, and decide if I want to keep them or remove them
[06:47] <codehacker> #codechef
[06:48] <shadaloo> d00ds
[06:49] <shadaloo> im trying to get 'hide all normal windows' to minimize all
[06:49] <shadaloo> but nothing is happening
[06:49] <shadaloo> ideas?
[06:50] <Beldar> shadaloo, move them around and make sure a popup is not hiding behind them.
[06:50] <atomic_> hello, i have installed ubuntu on a laptop but on boot GRUB does not show any entries like i'm used to. the system boots fine though
[06:50] <bekks> atomic_: So which entries does grub show then?
[06:51] <Beldar> atomic_, What should you be seeing?
[06:51] <atomic_> bekks: none at all
[06:51] <trijntje> atomic_: that means there are no other operating systems installed on your pc, like windows. So grub justs skips the menu and boots straight into ubuntu
[06:51] <atomic_> Beldar: i thought it would show the memtest entries etc
[06:52] <bekks> atomic_: For always showing the menu, you have to configure grub to do so.
[06:52] <atomic_> bekks: on my installation on my pc it does it by default. its not an EFI installation like on the laptop
[06:52] <atomic_> thats the difference in the installation
[06:52] <atomic_> so with an EFI installation i have no boot menu by default?
[06:53] <bekks> atomic_: EFI/non-EFI is irrelevant at that point.
[06:53] <atomic_> ok
[06:54] <atomic_> maybe i have to hold shift for loading menu
[06:54] <bekks> atomic_: Or configure grubv to show the menu by default.
[06:54] <bekks> -v
[06:56] <atomic_> holding shift doesnt work
[06:57] <bekks> atomic_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot_Display_Behavior
[06:57] <atomic_> bekks: ok, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 is set by default
[06:57] <ahmad> im using ubuntu 14.04 where my .vimrc location
[06:58] <atomic_> bekks: thanks for the link. so it's just working :)
[07:23] <OoTLink> would it be more trouble to shrink a linux partition and push it down so I can stick a windows partition on a machine
[07:23] <OoTLink> than it would to just redo the machine with a split partition and then reinstall?
[07:24] <Beldar> OoTLink, You want windows at the front of the HD
[07:24] <bekks> OoTLink: Could you rephrase that please - what are you tryong to do, and which errors do you get?
[07:25] <sagredo> hi dudes
[07:26] <sagredo> i just got my grub fixed and first restart i'm stuck at "grub>"
[07:26] <sagredo> not loading kernel
[07:27] <sagredo> any ideas?
[07:29] <OoTLink> beldar: exactly, bekks: my bro has a thing for tv dongles that don't work very well on linux
[07:29] <OoTLink> and thus I'm going to put a fairl ylocked down windows partition on his machine
[07:30] <OoTLink> just debating reinstalling from scratch with a proper partition scheme, or banging what he has out into that
[07:30] <sagredo> Beldar: haaalllp
[07:30] <sagredo> Beldar: first restart I'm stuck in grub console
[07:31] <bekks> OoTLink: Are you saying "I am either installing from scratch or clone an existing installation into a partition"?
[07:31] <OoTLink> bekks: his machine already has ubuntu on it, and some stuff I'd rather not go through the trouble of backing up and putting back on
[07:31] <OoTLink> it's not irreplacable, in fact I have his 60gb of crap on an external
[07:31] <OoTLink> I just don't wanna transfer it off/back again
[07:32] <Beldar> sagredo, What happened between it working and thr reboot?
[07:32] <Beldar> the*
[07:32] <sagredo> Beldar: I tried to install dnscrypt-proxy
[07:32] <sagredo> that's all
[07:32] <sagredo> installed libsodium
[07:34] <sagredo> Beldar: any ideas for a quick fix or do I have to follow the link you gave me earlier?
[07:35] <Beldar> sagredo, I would use the chroot I gave you yes the link, do you understand it?
[07:35] <sagredo> Beldar: somewhat :s
[07:36] <sagredo> Beldar: i'll give it a go solo
[07:37] <Beldar> sagredo, When you see sdX that is just the HD so if sda it is sdX = sda if you see sdXX it is the hd and the partition, like sdXX = sda1
[07:37] <sagredo> Beldar: right
[07:37] <Beldar> sagredo, If you get it fixed and booted run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[07:37] <lastnode> hllo friends
[07:37] <lastnode> *hello
[07:38] <Beldar> sagredo, You had two HD's are you having the HD with ubuntu read first in the bios, that may be asll that is wrong.
[07:38] <Beldar> all*
[07:39] <sagredo> Beldar: I did manually set the HD group to first boot position
[07:39] <sagredo> but I entered the boot menu at boot
[07:39] <Beldar> sagredo, HD group, is that the HD ubuntu is on?
[07:39] <sagredo> and manually selected the usb drive
[07:39] <sagredo> not the disk
[07:39] <sagredo> so not sure why it would interfere
[07:40] <Beldar> sagredo, YOu are not making sense, that is an internal HD right?
[07:40] <OoTLink> screw it
[07:41] <OoTLink> I'm going to nuke and repave
[07:41] <OoTLink> too much trouble
[07:41] <OoTLink> hehe
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: no
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: external USB
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: and i have a USB thumbdrive that I'm on now doing the rescue from
[07:41] <sagredo> brb
[07:41] <Beldar> The 500 gig HD is a external using a usb?
[07:41] <sagredo> done with the fix
[07:41] <sagredo> Beldar: yessir
[07:42] <sagredo> brb
[07:42] <Beldar> they said it was an external than an internal now it's an external again, geez
[07:43] <Beldar> no wonder they have issues, not a clue
[07:49] <sagredo> Beldar: yup, working again
[07:49] <sagredo> at least I know how to temp fix it
[07:50] <Beldar> sagredo, Ubuntu on an external is not an ideal use, that may be the issue, hard to say really.
[07:50] <sagredo> Beldar: i've had good luck in the past
[07:50] <sagredo> who knows
[07:56] <fahad3mi> hi
[07:58] <farbod> fahad3mi:hi
[08:21] <alfonsojon> So I did some digging to find out why Spotify holds up logout
[08:21] <alfonsojon> Turns out Spotify for Linux doesn't listen to SIGQUIT (CTRL + \), meaning it doesn't close cleanly on a logout.
[08:22] <alfonsojon> Meaning it waits for 30-60 seconds, not sure how long, then force kills with SIGINT. I made a forum post on the Spotify community for it here: http://goo.gl/kxU4D2
[08:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Why does the Ubuntu SDK tell me, “do not use comma expression”, and what should I use instead?
[08:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> this is for qml properties
[08:47] <afrokarlsson> in ocean is rock like a cross, and people carry crosses because that rock afraids humans from see to inner land
[08:58] <jevta> neko ko govori srpski?
[08:59] <eeee> !rs | jevta
[09:02] <arianit> hi, my 14.04 system is hanging randomly, event after it reinstalled from 32bit to 64 bit. it doesn't use a PAE kernel, right? anyway to use a PAE one? It worked without a hitch when I had the 32 bit.
[09:03] <Beldar> arianit, What desktop and release?
[09:03] <ikhcszxembe> what is PAE
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !pae
[09:04] <cfhowlett> arianit, in other words, 64 bit does not use PAE
[09:04] <arianit> Beldar, 14.04.1 have tried both unity and gnome
[09:05] <Beldar> arianit, Have you checked if you swapping when it hangs?
[09:05] <Beldar> your*
[09:05] <ikhcszxembe> thx
[09:05] <et_> not to but in... but when i had probs like that to be honest is was lose ram chips
[09:05] <et_> loose
[09:06] <et_> just an idea
[09:08] <Beldar> arianit, On a spinning HD swapping will make it seem like it's freezing, with a SSD it is hardly noticeable. I woud set the swappiness to 10 and see if this changes the situation.
[09:11] <arianit> sorry, back from a random freeze
[09:11] <ikhcszxembe> what does /var/log/kmesg.1 say
[09:12] <ikhcszxembe> or other files .1 there
[09:16] <ilk>  Dont get mad, get even!  Our extensive and comprehensive network of bots and socks is powerful enough to punish any group of people! http://server.piratebox.se/phpbb/index.php
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ilk, take your spam elsewhere. not welcome here.
[09:37] <ilk> ;o
[09:37] <ilk> k
[10:19] <troulouliou_dev> hi how ca n i configure a keyboard layout at boot time under X ?
[10:35] <legend> I have internet connection on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS using ppp. But don't have internet on my newly bought Android phone. I can connect my Android phone to ubuntu through USB. Is there a way so that i can use Ubuntu's internet on my Android mobile ?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !tether
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !ics
[10:37] <DJJeff> libvert: XML error: No PCI buses available
[10:38] <reversiblean> I cant find where the $JAVA_HOME env var is defined. I've checked in files; ~/.pam_environment, ~/.profile, /etc/environment
[10:38] <marko-_-> hey i'm using chromium on ubuntu 14.04 and i've managed to make it so i can comment by adding exceptions but now i can't see comments. Why is that? It's just loading
[10:38] <marko-_-> on youtube
[10:41] <a1ex_> hello o/
[10:41] <cfhowlett> marko-_-, for help commenting on Youtube, ask Youtube
[10:41] <marko-_-> there's no youtube channel
[10:42] <cfhowlett> marko-_-, so you ask ubuntu?
[10:42] <marko-_-> yeah and chromium
[10:42] <cfhowlett> marko-_-, look on www.youtube.com for support/help options
[10:42] <legend> cfhowlett, I don't have Wi-Fi or Bluetooth on my PC. I can only connect Android phone to PC by USB Cable. Can i still be able to use it?
[10:43] <gothai> Hi.. my name is Chandra, I want some help on ubuntu..
[10:43] <gothai> is this the right place to ask for ubuntu help
[10:43] <NGC3982_> This is the fallacy of "Official support" channels on IRC. There seems to be some consensus that one should not engage in anything but the related topic
[10:44] <legend> cfhowlett, By easytether, i can use  Android's internet on Ubuntu, but not the other way around.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> legend, and a bit different.  One would think "yes" but I've not seen a way to tether an android device to a computer.  Sorry, but IDK.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !ask | gothai,
[10:46] <gothai> Thanks, ubottu.. I was running 12.04.01, by mistake I did 'do-release-upgrade -d' and it upgraded to 14.10
[10:46] <gothai> Is there a way to rollback to 14.04.01
[10:46] <legend> No worries. Maybe i should buy a wireless router.
[10:46] <gothai> Sorry, I was running 14.04.01.. And upgraded to 14.10. Is there a way to rollback to 14.04.01
[10:47] <guest13> hello!
[10:48] <guest13> I am facing a weird problem, no unity no launcher only wallpaper on screen but in guest session everything working /
[10:49] <sukanto> Hello fellas!
[10:51] <sukanto> Can I run the janalyze.jar file without installing the kernel patch as given in the INSTALL.txt of ndt-3.6.5.tar.gz?
[10:51] <sukanto> i am trying to run the m-lab ndt log files using janalyze.jar
[10:55] <gothai> Hi, I was running 14.04.01 and by mistake I ran do-release-upgrade -d and upgraded to 14.10 (dev release). Is there a way to rollback to 14.04.01 or 14.04. Worst part is the login screen doesn't have a login dialog box to enter username and password. But through VT I can login.
[11:02] <sukanto> guys, im new to this
[11:02] <sukanto> can somebody please tell me
[11:02] <sukanto> how do i join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:13] <Rohan_m> i have problem related to C its a basic problem can anybody help me here (private message as this group does not allows C  problem to be discussed) ?
[11:26] <johncamelion> can someone help me regarding battery draining issue on 14.04?
[11:27] <evil_dan2wik> johncamelion, remove battery, problem solved.
[11:27] <guest13> no unity no launcher in ubuntu 14.04 64bit but in guest session everything working fine.
[11:28] <Novice201y> Hello. How can I install GTK+-3.0 package? I don't see it in Synaptic.
[11:34] <tobby11> hello
[11:34] <laughingtiger> hi
[11:34] <tobby11> i need help..!
[11:35] <tobby11> anyone there....?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !ask | tobby11
[11:35] <IdleOne> tobby11: ask your question and if someone can help they will
[11:36] <tobby11> acutally i am using xp , and want to dual boot with ubuntu but while disk partitioning i am only getting the whole drive
[11:40] <tobby11> any1 having idead about GPT >
[11:41] <tobby11> any1 having idea about GPT?
[11:41] <djpoo> hi guys i'm looking for help in my ubunutu i have verstion 14.04 lts and i install kali tools and i don't see the manu and no idea how to see the menu of kali would like some help
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: you don't
[11:43] <djpoo> why ikonia..
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: kali tools are for kali
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: install kali
[11:43] <djpoo> no
[11:43] <ikonia> ok, don't install it then
[11:43] <djpoo> there is kali tools for ubuntu also..
[11:43] <ikonia> djpoo: from which repo ?
[11:44] <djpoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOT8cB0r9cY
[11:44] <djpoo> check this out..
[11:44] <ikonia> djpoo: no
[11:44] <ikonia> djpoo: answer the question
[11:44] <ikonia> djpoo: which repo are they from ?
[11:45] <djpoo> hmm i dont remember
[11:45] <djpoo> how do i tell u this
[11:45] <ikonia> djpoo: bottom line - want kalitools - use kali
[11:46] <cfhowlett> djpoo, this ^^^
[11:47] <djpoo> i'm new with ubuntu
[11:47] <djpoo> is kali are easy to use or should i use it as vmware?
[11:47] <ikonia> djpoo: #kali-linux will help you
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !india | tobby11
[11:54] <technodict> anyone using weechat ?
[11:54] <Ririshi> I'm using xChat here
[11:54] <Ririshi> or XCHAT or however you'd like to spell it :p
[11:55] <technodict> weechats looking good enuf :)
[11:55] <Ririshi> Is there any way to turn off join/leave messages in xchat?
[11:55] <Ririshi> (just got this one :p)
[11:55] <Ririshi> I'm using ubuntu for android devving and I just started... so my stuff isn't quite set up yet
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, right click on the channel > settings > hide joins and leaves
[11:56] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, thank you :)
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, happy2help
[11:56] <Ririshi> err
[11:56] <Ririshi> Problem
[11:56] <qiukun> i'm inside a network requiring login on web
[11:57] <Ririshi> there's no such option in my freenode > settings thing
[11:57] <qiukun> and if you're not login you will be redirect to the log in page
[11:57] <Ririshi> Only log to disk and reload scrollback, cfhowlett
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, CHANNEL - freenode is the network
[11:57] <Ririshi> Pardon me cfhowlett
[11:57] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu
[11:57] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:57] <qiukun> this cause the 14.04 LTS installer to crash, give me a black screen
[11:57] <Ririshi> I like the autocompletion for users :D
[11:58] <qiukun> it could be solved by unplug the cable
[11:58] <qiukun> but i think it's awful
[11:58] <cfhowlett> qiukun, install without network
[11:58] <cfhowlett> qiukun, talk to your system admin ---
[11:58] <Ririshi> Yeah. You can update and install pkgs after the installation
[11:59] <qiukun> cfhowlett: i even don't get a notice from the installer
[11:59] <qiukun> i don't think this is user-friendly
[11:59] <cfhowlett> qiukun, it's not an ubuntu problem - it's your network.
[11:59] <Ririshi> qiukun, the installer has a checkbox to ask whether or not you want to install updates and additional packages before starting the install
[12:00] <cfhowlett> qiukun, ^^^ true.
[12:00] <qiukun> ririshi: in fact, even plugged in, the installer noticed that it didn't connect to the Internet
[12:00] <cfhowlett> qiukun, but if you specify "I have a connection" and you DO NOT have a connection ...
[12:00] <qiukun> no i choose not to install updates
[12:01] <Ririshi> qiukun, then you should connect to your network
[12:01] <Ririshi> qiukun, you can just open firefox before starting the installation and login onto the network
[12:01] <Ririshi> that way you should have internet and the installer won't complain about you not being connected
[12:01] <qiukun> ririshi: i think this is a bug. do you really suppose a user to know this?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> qiukun, file a bug report then.
[12:02] <qiukun> ok
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !bug | qiukun
[12:02] <Ririshi> qiukun, If your network requires you to login, you should first login... The installer can't do that for you :/
[12:03] <root> hola
[12:03] <Ririshi> qiukun, and because you have no internet connection (because you're nto logged in), the installer will tell you there's no active connection
[12:03] <Ririshi> hello root
[12:03] <Ririshi> or... guestxxxxx
[12:03] <Ririshi> or manuelito
[12:03] <eeee> !it | manuelito
[12:03] <qiukun> ririshi: sorry about my expression. I'm happy about its telling me no active connection
[12:03] <manuelito> q cacso diche
[12:04] <qiukun> ririshi: what hurt me is it still fetch something and give me a black screen
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !it | manuelito
[12:04] <qiukun> when selecting timezone
[12:04] <Ririshi> !es | AndersNilsen
[12:04] <cfhowlett> qiukun, you're booting directly to "install ubuntu"?  YOu can choose "Try ubuntu", start firefox and login.  Then run "install ubuntu"
[12:04] <Ririshi> qiukun, well O,o
[12:04] <qiukun> in fact, if i didn't kick off the cable by accident, i'll never find this
[12:05] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, the problem might be an actual bug
[12:05] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, noted.
[12:05] <qiukun> cfhowlett: i know i can connect first, my problem is I don't even be warned.
[12:05] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, it looks like the installer is trying to fetch something without a connection (which the installer knows lol) and then gives a black screen
[12:05] <qiukun> ririshi: you get it.
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, qiukun that would be ... buggy
[12:06]  * Ririshi likes to point out the obvious
[12:06] <OnkelTem> Hi all. How to list packages of a specific architecture using dpkg -l?
[12:07] <OnkelTem> For example, I want to list 'skype*' package but it prints 'un'
[12:07] <qiukun> cfhowlett: is a bug report still needed?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> qiukun, only if you're feeling charitably inclined ...
[12:07] <OnkelTem> Looks like Microsoft decided to bad Linux users by releasing 4.3 version of Skype which crashes for so many people
[12:08] <OnkelTem> to ban*\
[12:08] <llutz> OnkelTem: dpkg -l '*:i386'
[12:08] <OnkelTem> llutz: thanks!
[12:09] <qiukun> cfhowlett: well, i'm learning how.
[12:10] <Guest30661> hi
[12:10] <cfhowlett> qiukun, :)
[12:10] <cfhowlett> qiukun, we all are.
[12:10] <derrzzaa> hey guys, quick question. I'm transferring files off a drive with loads of bad sectors, so i'm coming across some errors.
[12:11] <derrzzaa> Does the skip all button, skip ALL the files its transferring, or just the ones with errors?
[12:11] <IdleOne> just the errors
[12:11] <san_> hi
[12:11] <derrzzaa> thanks!
[12:17] <qiukun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357939 the bug report
[12:17] <qiukun> after two years of university life, my english writing is worse.
[12:19] <qiukun> why ubuntu hurts me everytime i'd like to try. last time when i press super key, the last appliction on the launcher bar doesn't get a label to switch to.
[12:19] <qiukun> buggy unity.
[12:19] <compdoc> I learned to like unity
[12:20] <enchilado> I used it for a year or so and... well, I didn't really use it
[12:20] <enchilado> It was there, but I never actually used the dash home thing
[12:20] <dpy> hi guys
[12:20] <qiukun> if the bug will not appear again i'll like unity, too.
[12:21] <qiukun> hi dpy
[12:21] <dpy> what can be wrong if 'start ssh' shows 'ssh start/running, process <pid>' but subsequent ps axuww | grep ssh gives nothing and no sshd is running (manually running /usr/sbin/sshd works like a charm though)
[12:22] <dpy> also I can't find a log for ssh anywhere
[12:26] <Ririshi> Is there anything you'd call the best *forgot this word* (I mean stuff like unity, GNOME, someone think of the word for it for me xP)
[12:27] <eeee> desktop environment?
[12:27] <qiukun> Ririshi: windows
[12:27] <Ririshi> lol
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, DE?  "best" is the one you use
[12:27] <Ririshi> thanks eeee
[12:28] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, I use Unity because I didn't change it...
[12:28] <bekks> Ririshi: There is no "best", since that depends on personal opinions only :)
[12:28] <Ririshi> I'm really used to windows but I've done some stuff on Ubuntu so I know pretty much how it works x)
[12:28] <Ririshi> Is any of you by coincidence an Android developer?
[12:29] <Ririshi> I mean stuff like ROMS
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Ririshi, www.xdadevelopers.com      is the place for that
[12:30] <Ririshi> cfhowlett, I know, but I was just wondering
[12:30] <Ririshi> I shouldn't be in this channel for OT stuff, sorry x)
[12:35] <qiukun> ririshi: em. people on #ubuntu-cn are talking about sales returning of a router.  I have Win7 + Ubuntu 12.04 installed with Wubi on my laptop. Planning to upgrade to 14.04 - Should I upgrade within Wubi or move Wubi to a separate partition and then upgrade?
[12:51] <bekks> dan00b_river: you cannot move wubi. Reinstalling a clean Ubuntu 14.04 (no wubi) in parallel to your Windows is the best solution.
[12:51] <k1l_> dan00b_river: honestly i would plan to make a real isntall. wubi will break ubuntu and/or windows in some time so better to make a good cut
[12:51] <dan00b_river> Sigh, I was afraid you'd say that. Is there a clean way to migrate my data?
[12:52] <dan00b_river> Also, I made a mistake in the second part of my question. By mving Wubi I meant moving the root.disk to a separate partition...
[12:53] <dan00b_river> ...using this method: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[12:53] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, wubi is not supported on 14.04.  expect pain if you insist on messing with it.
[12:54] <metalcamp> why is wubi no longer supported?
[12:54] <bekks> dan00b_river: you cannot move wubi out of windows, you have to reinstall.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> metalcamp, more trouble than it's worth would be my guess
[12:54] <k1l_> metalcamp: too much mess with the windows basis
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> metalcamp  and too misleading: people thought it was a full install, but it wasnt
[12:55] <dan00b_river> Okay, so the general consensus is I dump wubi like a hot potato. Fair enough. Is there a clean way to migrate my files, settings etc from my existing wubi install?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, get a USB, copy /home to usb and then copy to your new ubuntu /home
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> dan00b_river  copy them to a safe place
[12:56] <dan00b_river> cfhowlett, step 1 of that is already done. Heck, I've backed up the entire root.disk to an external drive, The question is, will it migrate properly to the new install?
[12:57] <bekks> dan00b_river: It will not migrate at all.
[12:57] <bekks> dan00b_river: You have to reinstall.
[12:58] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, I'm with bekks.  assume it will not migrate.  save your essential files and copy them to the new /home.  assume you'll have to reconfigure your settings..
[12:58] <dan00b_river> bekks, I'm confused. Here's what I am planning to do: uninstall wubi from within windows. Reboot into a Xubuntu Live USB. Install Xubuntu & then copy my /home.
[12:58] <bekks> dan00b_river: Thats a complete reinstall and no migration. :)
[12:59] <dan00b_river> Ah, okay. I was using incorrect terminology. My apologies... :)
[13:00] <k1l_> dan00b_river: wubi got a own uninstall script which makes a clean uninstall. i would suggest to use that
[13:00] <bekks> dan00b_river: No problem :)
[13:00] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, 14.04.1 is the current ubuntu release.  get it on torrent. md5sum to verify.  make a USB.  Boot USB.  install.  enjoy.
[13:00] <k1l_> dan00b_river: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[13:02] <sydney> Hi everyone,i am having an issue with my laptop. My laptop will randomly freeze,so i switch to tty1 and i get this mesage:
[13:03] <sydney> No casheing mode page found
[13:03] <sydney> assuming cashe mode write through
[13:03] <sydney> But it never unfreezes :-/
[13:04] <sydney> How do i fix it?
[13:06] <sydney> Iwill be right back
[13:07] <dan00b_river> k1l_ Thanks, reading it now. The ISO is downloaded and I'm ready to take the plunge! Wish me luck! :)
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> dan00b_river  it helps that you're already familiar with the concept and the interface
[13:10] <verses_> should I really upgrade to 14.04?
[13:11] <bekks> verses_: Which release are you on, currently?
[13:11] <verses_> 12.04
[13:12] <verses_> I always prefer lts versions
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> verses_  i'm on 12.04 too, it's supported until... i forget when exactly
[13:12] <verses_> 2018? MonkeyDust
[13:12] <bekks> 2017.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> verses_, you machines.  your decision.  14.04 is now at release .1 so the first wave of bugs have been pretty much fixed ... and it is LTS.
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> 14.04 gave fan problems, my laptop overheated and and shutdown immediately
[13:14] <verses_> the only problem I face in 12.04 is posed by unity - can't switch to 2D.
[13:14] <verses_> unity 2D
[13:14] <cfhowlett> verses_, you can choose other DE 's
[13:15] <sydney> verses_: lxde,xfce,kde,gnome ect...
[13:15] <verses_> yes, I have xsession as well as kde and gnome without effects installed
[13:15] <verses_> xfce*
[13:16] <verses_> but unity is so cool
[13:16] <user472259> greetings! i can't get my mouse to poll 500hz. it use to! https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_Polling_Rate worked until recently
[13:16] <sydney> MonkeyDust: 12.04 will be suported till 2017 :)
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> user472259  that's an arch link... how is your question ubuntu related?
[13:17] <user472259> i'm running an ubuntu based distro. the arch solution worked last year
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> user472259  what ubuntu based distro?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> user472259, what is the output: cat /etc/issue
[13:18] <Sven_vB> i managed to fix a crash in update-manager (missing error handling in ubuntu-support-status) on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS, which is still present in the development branch, so usually i'd open a pull request but they use bzr. is there any chance i can use my git skills to submit it in an easy-to-integrate format? (easier than having to manually apply my patch file)
[13:18] <user472259> i've tried the other ubuntu specific ones at the top of google, with no luck MonkeyDust. it's mint 17
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Sven_vB  are you a developer?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> user472259, not supported here.  ask in mint support
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !mint
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> user472259  mint is not supported here
[13:19] <Sven_vB> MonkeyDust, well, i develop software as part of my job
[13:19]  * cfhowlett wonders why people users come to ubuntu when their OS doesn't provide support.
[13:20] <user472259> they aren't that different. i've been supported just fine here in the past
[13:20] <tuxfan> Hello, what is the minimal space requirement for installing Lubuntu? I can't find the info in the doc;..
[13:20] <cfhowlett> user472259, nevertheless: for mint support use mint channels.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> tuxfan, it'll be about 6 gigs
[13:20] <Sven_vB> user472259, just because some mint problems are inherited from ubuntu, doesn't mean they all are.
[13:21] <Sven_vB> is there a dev channel? tried #ubuntu-dev but it's empty
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Sven_vB, #ubuntu-devel
[13:21] <Sven_vB> thx
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Sven_vB  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:21] <tuxfan> Really? I believed that 6Gigs was the requirement for Ubuntu. Isn't Lubuntu a bit lighter?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> tuxfan  it's lighter, but not smaller
[13:22] <tuxfan> Ok thank you very much!
[13:23] <hultsfret> Hi, I've just installed xubutu 14.04 on a Thinkpad Edge E130, but I have trouble installing my wlan adapter, it's a Realtek:
[13:23] <hultsfret> 03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[13:24] <hultsfret> I can't find info on the net, can anywone point me toward a tutorial?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> hultsfret, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+RTL8188CE&t=canonical
[13:24] <felipe__> Hi, Does anyone knows if its possible to create a live (persistent) ubuntu 14.04 USB stick that will work on a macbook pro (2013, retina, ssd) or can point out where I can find information about it?
[13:24] <morkeleb> Question: Is it possible to get the file explorer in 14.04 (nautilus, I guess?) to behave like it does in Linux Mint? That is, show arrows left of folder names, and let you expand the folders without switching to that folder?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> morkeleb  mint uses nemo, it's not nautilus
[13:25] <arun_> Hi guys how do I convert a Dynamic Partition to Basic in Ubuntu  ?>
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> arun_  you mean logical to primary?
[13:26] <enjoi> aloha
[13:26] <eeee> morkeleb: nautilus does show arrows left of the folder names
[13:26] <arun_> MonkeyDust: nope, Dynamic to Basic/Logical/Primary
[13:26] <eeee> ah, you mean like the side bar ?
[13:27] <eeee> "tree view" ?
[13:27] <morkeleb> Ah, nemo then.
[13:27] <enjoi> Hey, I am trying to run a .JNLP file which seems to keep crashing (The FIVE9 Client) to be specific, I am trying to figure out what the hell keeps preventing it from launching but i'm not quite sure on how to get a log on the bugger, any ideas?  (I tried javaws -verbose) but not sure where the log wound up if even it made one lol
[13:27] <morkeleb> Is it possible to make nemo display the folders like that?
[13:27] <mishravikas> Hi all, I've just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my dell laptop and I cant enable wireless on it, I guess some driver issue but there are no drivers available for ubuntu 14.04 at the dell support, any help?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !wifi | mishravikas
[13:28] <enjoi> mishravikas, have you tried using the ndiswrapper?
[13:28] <morkeleb> eee: Tree view, yes.
[13:28] <mishravikas> enjoi: what is that?
[13:28] <enjoi> is your wireless usb?
[13:28] <enjoi> rather, a usb wireless
[13:29] <mishravikas> enjoi: no it is inbuilt in my laptop
[13:29] <enjoi> ok, so do lspci and find what type of wireless it is
[13:29] <dan00b_river> arun_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692248 says a windows-based partition manager like Partition Wizard or EaseUS should do the trick, since dynamic partitions are a Windows-thing..
[13:29] <enjoi> in terminal "lspci"
[13:29] <dan00b_river> Are you trying to move from a wubi-based 12.04 install to 14.04?
[13:29] <enjoi> find the drivers for that wireless device and use ubuntu software manager to install ndiswrapper
[13:30] <enjoi> this will allow you to install the drivers for your wireless (I believe so anyway)
[13:30] <enjoi> I could be wrong, im giving advice I used in ubu 10 lol
[13:30] <arun_> dan00b3: ok dude thanks
[13:30] <mishravikas> enjoi: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6023061
[13:31] <dan00b_river> arun_: YW, be careful though. That link is 3 years old..
[13:31] <felipe__> Hi, Does anyone knows if its possible to create a live (persistent) ubuntu 14.04 USB stick that will work on a macbook pro (2013, retina, ssd) or can point out where I can find information about it?
[13:31] <morkeleb> Hm. No nemo in my Ubuntu 14.04. nautilus is installed and in use, though.
[13:31] <enjoi> yep there she is mishravikas --> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[13:31] <enjoi> :)
[13:31] <eeee> morkeleb: nemo is mint's file manager, it uses what you mean, nautilus is ubuntu's it doesn't, however if you go to the preferences > display > navigate folders in a tree, it does that but itll be in the main folder window, and you'd have to be viewing it as a list
[13:31] <enjoi> one sec
[13:32] <arun_> dan00b3: ok man
[13:32] <mishravikas> enjoi: where do I find its driver? as in the dell support only ubuntu 12.04 drivers are available
[13:32] <zhi>
[13:32] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, fwiw: nemo is in the universe repo
[13:33] <enjoi> mishravikas, it looks like this issue was solved here :) -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190930
[13:33] <eeee> morkeleb: i don't think you can have it in the sidebar though, might be wrong
[13:33] <enjoi> <3
[13:34] <leeyaa> hello
[13:34] <leeyaa> when configuring postfix to use saslauthd and pam who creates the file /etc/pam.d/smtp.conf ?
[13:34] <morkeleb> I found it. It's disabled by default, but can be enabled in Preference.
[13:35] <enjoi> mishravikas, or you could take the easy way, and download the ndiswrapper from the ubuntu software center and download the windows drivers from here (http://www.driverscape.com/download/qualcomm-atheros-qca9565-802.11b-g-n-wifi-adapter)
[13:35] <enjoi> hope this helps my friend <3
[13:35] <enjoi> :)
[13:35] <mishravikas> enjoi:the earlier link was for ubuntu 12.04
[13:35] <mishravikas> enjoi: windows driver would work in it?
[13:36] <enjoi> mishravikas, yes it will, this is what ndiswrapper is for :)
[13:37] <morkeleb> cfhowlett: Not sure why, but in my recently installed 14.04 64-bit, nautilus is used instead of nemo.
[13:37] <[Ex0r]> ive got postfix installed via apt-get, and I can't relay mail to remote addresses. How do I change and fix this ?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, nautilus is default UBUNTU.  nemo is not.
[13:38] <mishravikas> enjoi: ok nice, and is there something similar for amd graphics card as well? as when I go to additional hardware secrtions and activate proprietory driver for the graphics card I get a black sceen in next boot and I have to delete the driver from the command line mode
[13:39] <eeee> morkeleb: what cfhowlett meant was that if you want to install nemo it is in the universe repository ( which you have to enable, if you haven't already)
[13:39] <sydney> Ihave a question My lubuntu install will randomly freeze,and i switch to tty1,and the message: No casheing mode page found, Assuming cashe mode write through.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, as eeee said.  I could have expressed myself more clearly.  sorry.
[13:40] <dan00b_river> Impromptu Poll: What are you using? Ubuntu? Lubuntu? Xubuntu? Other? Any specific reason?
[13:41] <ses1984> i'm getting some really weird graphical glitches in ubuntu 14.04, especially using firefox
[13:41] <ses1984> if i switch tabs, the firefox window will rapidly flash back and forth between the current tab and previous tab
[13:41] <yanwei> #new
[13:41] <ses1984> i tried installing a different graphics driver and that hasn't fixed the problem
[13:43] <Nexus3> Hello - Is anyone into LAN bonding ?
[13:44] <morkeleb> No problem. I could've done a bit more research first too hehe :_)
[13:44] <Sven_vB> anyone wanna submit my patch and take the fame for fixing ubuntu-support-status?
[13:45] <verses_> yea might but I dont know bzr
[13:46] <sydney> ses1984:Is it only in firefox,or is it in another browser as well?
[13:47] <[Ex0r]> Is there somebody here who can help me with a ubuntu-postfix issue im having ?
[13:47] <verses_> ls
[13:48] <sydney> ses1984:if it only happens in firefox,you might get better support in #firefox
[13:48] <ses1984> sydney: firefox seems to cause it to happen the worst/most consistently but it happens in any program, firefox or not
[13:48] <ses1984> i mean browser or not
[13:48] <sydney> oh
[13:49] <ses1984> it seems like this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1288747
[13:49] <eeee> [Ex0r]: try /join #postfix
[13:49] <ses1984> well shit
[13:49] <cfhowlett> ses1984, if it's related to that bug, that bug is still open.  nothing we can do here.
[13:49] <[Ex0r]> eeee- I did, they told me they can't help because the ubuntu postfix has a different configuration than standard postfix and wont give me support
[13:50] <ses1984> yeah i just found the bug report
[13:51] <ses1984> so there are some fixes recommended in the comments but i'm not sure how to try to apply them
[13:51] <ses1984> i tried downloading the nvidia prop driver, which worked ok, but now i want to switch back to the default and i can't seem to use the software & updates window to do that
[13:51] <ses1984> under additional drivers tab i can only "continue using a manually installed driver" and other options are grayed out
[13:52] <sydney> hmm
[13:54] <kurain> I am trying autopilot, but I can't find the samples showing how to call slots of qt's class
[13:54] <ses1984> ok here's another question, trying to fix my problem from another angle. it seems like the problem i'm having is some kind of compiz problem
[13:55] <kurain> I need some help, will some please give me a hand?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !help | kurain
[13:55] <ses1984> can i set up a unity-like desktop without using compiz?
[13:55] <ses1984> i like the launcher and the i'm used to the keyboard shortcuts
[13:55] <ses1984> i don't seem to have these problems in xfce/xubuntu but that environment is very different
[13:57] <Daghdha> Hi, i get http://www.two-sided.com/fifa/fookme.png when i run the upgrade. How SLOW will it be? Because i am rarely on the desktop anyway
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Daghdha, simple fix: don't run unity.  you have many options
[13:58] <sydney> Daghdha:its hard to say...
[13:58] <sebastien_> hi there ! i have a problem with a kernel update, could anyone help me please? :)
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | sebastien_
[14:01] <morkeleb> Q: In previous versions, I could find this app: System > Administration > Disk Utility   - how do I do this in 14.04, where I have to search for everything? Searching for "Disk utility" in Applications yields nothing...
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> morkeleb  isnt it called baobab?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> morkeleb, boot up an ubuntu USB
[14:03] <morkeleb> ah thanks :-)
[14:03] <compdoc> morkeleb, I just type 'disk' in the search box and a few things pop up
[14:04] <Daghdha> ok.. i' just do it
[14:04] <sebastien_> well i did an update, but it seems that some pakages are broken. some about kernel (linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-generic-pae). I tried sudo apt-get -f install, as the error message told me, but nothing changed
[14:04] <cfhowlett> sebastien_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:04] <bekks> sebastien_: So can you pastebin the entire error message please and provide the URL?
[14:07] <bekks> !pastebin | sebastien_
[14:08] <ses1984> is there any way i can force reset my graphics driver situation to what it would be like in a clean install
[14:08] <anton> help as anyone got a working smb.cof for plex media server
[14:09] <sebastien_> well actually i found a french channel about ubuntu, i think it will be easier for me to explain my problem and get help. thanks for all
[14:10] <DexterSkull> can anyone tell me why does ubuntu show "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" error while booting?
[14:11] <iSaleK> Hello guys. I have compiled Wine but now I have problems configuring it?
[14:12] <iSaleK> I had to recompile wine to apply patch to run Altium Designer.   that's the only option i have,
[14:19] <enjoi> oh goodness
[14:19] <enjoi> nsh, its over lol
[14:19] <[nsh]> again how to remove unity desktop and compviz and install something better?
[14:19] <enjoi> oh, hes just msging the chan
[14:19] <ses1984> well, i don't want to continue using a manually installed driver. i want to go back to system managed. how can i do this?
[14:19] <ni1s> ikonia, im tireed of hunting for the :i386 packages
[14:19] <enjoi> lol
[14:20] <cfhowlett> [nsh], you can kicked too.  stop the profanity
[14:20] <[nsh]> this distraction from my question is over.
[14:20] <ikonia> ni1s: what do you mean "hunting"
[14:20] <enjoi> [nsh], look they removed me for cursing too, simply put I stopped
[14:20] <enjoi> dont be a noob, just deal with no cursing
[14:20] <enjoi> unless its ncurses!
[14:20] <enjoi> (zing!)
[14:21] <Liammmz> Ubuntu is as bad as windows, You must reboot, you must reboot
[14:21] <enjoi> bad pun? lol
[14:21] <ikonia> Liammmz: there are certain software components in any os that will require a reboot
[14:21] <Liammmz> I know that :P
[14:21] <enjoi> whoa
[14:21] <ikonia> Liammmz: right, so complaining about it won't change anything
[14:21] <enjoi> Liammmz.....
[14:21] <enjoi> you just hurt my feeling
[14:21] <Liammmz> It might, Ya never know
[14:21] <enjoi> I love ubuntu
[14:21] <asshurt> hey guys
[14:22] <Liammmz> So do I
[14:22] <enjoi> oh look, his real name!
[14:22] <Liammmz> O.o
[14:22] <enjoi> not you
[14:22] <enjoi> I think thats nsh
[14:22] <enjoi> lol
[14:22] <cfhowlett> asshurt, change your nick please
[14:22] <sydney> !offtopic
[14:22] <asshurt> why would I change my nick?
[14:22] <asshurt> it's my handle
[14:22] <enjoi> asshurt, it goes against our rules of profanity here
[14:23] <asshurt> my pseudonym
[14:23] <enjoi> could you be a cool dude and just change it plz man?
[14:23] <enjoi> only temp while you are in here
[14:23] <cfhowlett> asshurt, change it or get support elsewhere.
[14:23] <asshurt> no
[14:23] <enjoi> well, then bye
[14:23] <asshurt> i need lunix help
[14:23] <enjoi> too bad
[14:23] <enjoi> so sad
[14:23] <enjoi> go somewhere else
[14:23] <maiz> how get the cloak as i sing
[14:23] <asshurt> you're denying me lunix help because of my nick?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | asshurt
[14:23] <maiz> how get the cloak as i sign
[14:23] <ikonia> maiz: ask in freenode
[14:23] <ikonia> maiz: #freenode
[14:23] <enjoi> asshurt, you know who wont deny you help because of your nick? (google)
[14:23] <asshurt> maiz: cloak is done
[14:23] <ikonia> guys, calm down
[14:24] <asshurt> but i have very specific questions about unity
[14:24] <ses1984> ok this is really messed up, in whatever driver i have now, i can't ctrl-alt-f# to even get another terminal, i just get a black screen instead
[14:24] <cfhowlett> are there any ubuntu support issues needing attention?
[14:24] <asshurt> the greatest wm  ever
[14:24] <enjoi> well, thats too bad, you wont get help until you change your name
[14:24] <maiz> wonder then as
[14:24] <enjoi> plain and simple
[14:24] <asshurt> never
[14:24] <enjoi> then bye
[14:24] <sydney> Asa question :)ndari:just ask your
[14:25] <sydney> asshurt: Just ask your question :)
[14:25] <sydney> typo :P
[14:25] <maiz> please please can you help me
[14:25] <enjoi> oh, so now you can change the policy
[14:25] <maiz> with this
[14:26] <asshurt> so I was wondering why I can't get this site to work on ubuntu lunix http://gnaa.eu/
[14:26] <cfhowlett> maiz, ask #freenode
[14:26] <maiz> then how ask
[14:26] <cfhowlett> maiz, go to #freenode.  ask them.
[14:26] <enjoi> hm, oddly enough, lightning struck just as you banned him
[14:26] <sydney> maiz: /join #freenode
[14:26] <enjoi> that was pretty cool lol
[14:27] <ikonia> enjoi: it would be really helpful if you could drop the commentary
[14:27] <ikonia> enjoi: focus on your issue - nothing more
[14:27] <enjoi> i'm waiting for a reply, nothing more
[14:27] <enjoi> don't be so uptight please
[14:27] <enjoi> relax
[14:27] <enjoi> breathe....
[14:27] <ikonia> enjoi: please wait quietly then
[14:27] <cfhowlett> enjoi, stop now.
[14:27] <maiz> im there on that chanel
[14:28] <sydney> maiz:ok,then ask your question to them
[14:28] <cfhowlett> maiz, for UBUNTU support, ask here.
[14:28] <enjoi> I come here often and help others when I can, I would appreciate if you pull whatever the "eff" is stuck in your "a" today and lighten up, no one likes mods that abuse power because they feel they can rule the world
[14:29] <fevas4> hey, can anybody help me with an NFS issue? I have two virtually identical shares from the same server to the same client, but after mounting one can only be read by root and the other has 777 perms, here's a few more details (my /etc/exports and /etc/fstab files): http://paste.ubuntu.com/8071710/
[14:29] <iSaleK> How can I add newly compiled wine as Ubuntu App? So I can configure it with wine tricks and winecfg?
[14:29] <M1LIAM> Back
[14:31] <sydney> ttyl
[14:31] <EmEhRKay> I just setup ubuntu server 14.04 with vagrant/virtualbox and I cannot get to anything that is hosted with it from the host machine. I turned off firewall via ufw, hosted a simple python http server, tired other services. Things are running showing up in netstat, i can even do lynx and bring it up. Am I missing a firewall setting or something?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> EmEhRKay, if no response here: ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:32] <EmEhRKay> I’ve set up centos and after turning off its firewall things work as expected
[14:32] <EmEhRKay> thanks
[14:32] <bekks> EmEhRKay: Are you using NAT as networking mode for your vm?
[14:32] <EmEhRKay> bekks: i am
[14:33] <EmEhRKay> should i change to bridge?
[14:33] <bekks> EmEhRKay: yes.
[14:33] <EmEhRKay> ill try, thanks
[14:34] <ruslan_osmanov> hi, `xev` doesn't recognize Fn+F5 and Fn+F6 (brightness down/up). How do I fix it?
[14:34] <M1LIAM> O.o I broke it
[14:35] <bekks> ruslan_osmanov: you cant fix that, because those keys are mapped via hardware directly.
[14:37] <DexterSkull> please tell me, if you know the right answer, why "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" error shows up while booting ubuntu. last time i had quit as i had to go somewhere.
[14:37] <maiz> who helps me
[14:37] <cfhowlett> maiz, ask your ubuntu question
[14:37]  * ObrienDave readies the snarky cannon
[14:37] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, please answer mine.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, restate the question ...
[14:38] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, got it
[14:38] <DexterSkull> why "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" error shows up while booting ubuntu.
[14:38] <maiz> how as I can get the cloak within #freenode
[14:38] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, I'm in xubuntu but I THINK ubuntu has a smart disk monitor app?  Check your HDD with that
[14:39] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, if it's a hardware issue, prepare to replace the HDD.
[14:39] <fabiobik> hello guys. I want to encrypt hole disk using pgp keys. what is the best software to do it?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !pgp
[14:40] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, this i the very first i'm using ubuntu. can you tell me how to use that thing?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> HDD shows error during boot.  How to check this in ubuntu 14.04?  re: dexterskull
[14:42] <DexterSkull> cfhowlett, i don't think there's some problem with my HDD.
[14:42] <trijntje> gnome-disk can read out smart data
[14:42] <cfhowlett> DexterSkull, this ^^^
[14:43] <daftykins> DexterSkull: well it's best to be sure, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools"
[14:43] <daftykins> DexterSkull: then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and share the link here
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !info smartctl
[14:43] <daftykins> the package is smartmontools.
[14:43] <bekks> !info smartmon-tools
[14:44] <daftykins> no hyphen
[14:44] <bekks> !info smartmontools
[14:44] <bekks> :)
[14:44] <sanga> ciao
[14:44] <sanga> !list
[14:44] <daftykins> you know it's gonna be a great user when the first thing they do is what the topic says not to
[14:44] <sanga> exit
[14:44] <sanga> quit
[14:44] <sanga> !quit
[14:44] <daftykins> you need a leading /
[14:45] <daftykins> so /quit
[14:45] <sanga> 7quit
[14:45] <daftykins> =|
[14:45] <fabiobik> cfhowlett, do you use hd encript?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> fabiobik, no. dexterskull is having the issues,.
[14:45] <daftykins> DexterSkull: are you running the above...
[14:52]  * ObrienDave will never understand why people want to encrypt entire drives. smh
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> Hello
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> I'm new in ubuntu
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> I have a problem with compile in codeblocks
[14:53] <DiegoFernando> the terminal closes too fast
[14:55] <DiegoFernando> Hello :(
[14:56] <Ririshi> Be patient my friend.
[14:56] <ObrienDave> you have been seen
[14:56]  * Ririshi is always impatient...
[14:57] <WLM> ubottu
[14:57] <WLM> !ubottu
[14:58] <DiegoFernando> :(
[14:58] <DiegoFernando> ok i wall wait :)
[15:03] <Ririshi> semi-self-replicating device O.o
[15:03] <Ririshi> Ubottu is one of thsoe
[15:03] <Ririshi> Intelligent enough, ubottu x)
[15:04] <k1l_> DiegoFernando: can you describe what the error is or give some error messages?
[15:05] <Langley> Help, I just installed Ubuntu but on first boot its already dead. "Gave up waiting for root device" and then a looot of stuff
[15:06] <BammBamm> If i accidentally copy my MBR to an usbsitck how do i copy that back?
[15:06] <Ririshi> that's something with the bootloader right?
[15:06] <BammBamm> i think so
[15:07] <BammBamm> Ririshi: U talkng to me?
[15:07] <subz3r0> BammBamm: dd
[15:07] <Ririshi> no sorry BammBamm x)
[15:07] <BammBamm> subz3r0: not on a linux os
[15:07] <subz3r0> does not matter
[15:08] <BammBamm> subz3r0: its window
[15:08] <cfhowlett> Langley, just for fun, pretend that the error messages you see actually mean something helpful in terms of solving the issue.  Got it?  Good.    So if you don't TELL us the error messages ...
[15:08] <subz3r0> BammBamm: it does not matter from which OS the MBR is
[15:09] <BammBamm> subz3r0: SURE, but im pretty sure i don't have a DD command anywhere.
[15:09] <Langley> Gave up waiting for root device. Commong problems:
[15:09] <Langley> - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
[15:09] <Ririshi> Langley, do you have an initramfs input prompt to type in there?
[15:09] <Langley> Ririshi: I have, but unable to type anything
[15:09] <Ririshi> hmm
[15:10] <BammBamm> subz3r0: if you point me in the right direction ....
[15:10] <subz3r0> BammBamm: and where is the problem? use a live usb stick
[15:10] <Ririshi> Langley, just type in "exit" and press enter (no clue if it'll work but just try)
[15:10] <BammBamm> subz3r0: that stick is 1.0 and sloooooooooooooow
[15:10] <BammBamm> i have only 3 usb ports
[15:10] <subz3r0> BammBamm: ...
[15:10] <subz3r0> #windows
[15:11] <BammBamm> nooooohoooo
[15:11] <BammBamm> they are stupid
[15:11] <BammBamm> all of them
[15:11] <BammBamm> not kidding
[15:11] <Langley> Ririshi: Nothing happens
[15:11] <BammBamm> subz3r0: Their idea of solving problems is: buy a new computer
[15:11] <Ririshi> Langley,  :/
[15:11] <subz3r0> http://sourceforge.net/projects/windd/
[15:12] <UltimaKR> Hi guys...I am trying to retrieve data from a friend's IDE drive, but when I run fdisk it seems as though the drive has 0 partitions. I am told that it does not boot properly, but that it does have data on it. Can anyone help me with this?
[15:12] <BammBamm> subz3r0: please don't make me go there! ;)
[15:12] <k1l_> BammBamm: dont use a OS if you dont like how the community runs the support. then please dont force us to make you remind that this is a ubuntu support.
[15:12] <ses1984> when i hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal, i just get a black screen instead
[15:12] <Ririshi> Langley, Try fixing your GRUB installation using this link: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[15:12] <subz3r0> UltimaKR: first make a backup of the device. use the backup for invetigating the issue. like clone the disk with dd
[15:12] <Langley> Error: http://pastebin.com/W9SK6byt
[15:12] <BammBamm> in general, ubuntus are helpful beyond their os
[15:13] <UltimaKR> subz3r0: i tried running dd and ddrescue, but each time I got various I/O errors
[15:13] <k1l_> BammBamm: and this channel is for technical ubuntu support. so please keep it clear for ubuntu users who need help. thanks
[15:13] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, i/o = a failing drive ...
[15:14] <k1l_> UltimaKR: i/o errors mean there is something wrong on the hardware side
[15:14] <UltimaKR> cfhowlett: I figured as much, but before it completely dies (it powers on and has like a little click as it runs) I was hoping to try and recover stuff
[15:14] <UltimaKR> k1l: Yeah that is what I assumed, is this a fixable issue or do I tell the friend to spend $10 and buy another drive off ebay?
[15:15] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, there is a forensics channel .  for starters, stop using the disk immediately.
[15:15] <k1l_> UltimaKR: you could try with dd_rescue. but there is some point where the hardware cant even handle that anymore
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !msg alis *forensic
[15:15] <UltimaKR> cfhowlett: Oh im sorry I didn't know that channel existed. I am not using the disk at all...I just plugged it in to the spare IDE cable to test ddrescue
[15:16] <k1l_> UltimaKR: if its important data keep that drive off the power and get a forensics specialists on it. if not: dump it and get a new one
[15:16] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, disconnect it until you have a plan in place.  or so says ever factoid I've read on this matter.  trying to find the channel now
[15:16] <UltimaKR> Alright then, thanks a lot guys. I guess I will tell my friend the bad news.
[15:17] <cfhowlett> UltimaKR, there are data recovery service$   ...
[15:17] <ObrienDave> usually very expensive
[15:18] <c3l> How do I turn off my display (from the command line, it's a laptop), so that it does not reactivate when I press a key or move the mouse (as is the case for "xset dpms force off"). But I want to be able to turn on the screen again from the command line. Does anyone know?
[15:20] <Langley> Ririshi: That's an insane procedure, I'll try installing it again first..
[15:20] <Ririshi> Langley, what's so insane about it?
[15:21] <Ririshi> it's just accessing through cd > install, recheck, update...
[15:21] <Langley> Long and complicated
[15:21] <Ririshi> Langley, what are you going to install again
[15:21] <Ririshi> Langley, grub?
[15:21] <Langley> I mean that the grub repair instructions are long
[15:21] <Langley> I'll try reinstalling ubuntu again instead
[15:22] <Ririshi> Langley, well.. alright
[15:26] <no_gravity> Hello! In this launcher thing on the left of unity - how can I edit the command that is run when I click on one of the items?
[15:26] <Langley> Reinstalling didnt help... urgh..
[15:27] <trijntje> no_gravity: use the program alacarte to create a custom launcher
[15:27] <fabiobik> hello guys. I want to encrypt hole disk using pgp keys. what is the best software to do it?
[15:28] <no_gravity> trijntje: i already have a launcher
[15:30] <no_gravity> And by the way... is there a way to get a taskbar in unity?
[15:32] <nuby> hey all!
[15:32] <dannixon> no_gravity: The bar is techically the task bar
[15:32] <no_gravity> dannixon: ok, but it sucks.
[15:32] <no_gravity> dannixon: i forced myself to have ubuntu 14 on one of my machines for two months now to see if i get used to it. but it kills me to not have a taskbar.
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  install a DE with a taskbar below
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  LXDE has a taskbar
[15:34] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: there is no taskbar for unity?
[15:34] <nuby> does anyone have any tips on how to remap windows_key+left to be home and win_key+right to be end?
[15:34] <trijntje> no_gravity: yes, but you want to change the command right? So you have to make a new launcher with another command
[15:34] <no_gravity> trijntje: why can't i change the command of an existing launcher?
[15:34] <k1l_> no_gravity: the unity launcher shows the opened programs = taskbar
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  yes, but it's on the left and you don't like that
[15:35] <no_gravity> k1l_, MonkeyDust: ok, so i will have to switch to some other desktop.
[15:35] <trijntje> no_gravity: you can, its just more hassle. Look for the existing launchers in /usr/share/applications, copy the one you want to ~/.local/share/applications, and edit it to make the changes you want
[15:35] <k1l_> no_gravity: you are free to use another desktop enviroment. unity will not enable to change the location of that bar
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[15:36] <arielwinter> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and my Thinkpad x220. The mouse pointer gets jumpy using the trackpad, but I don't seem to have this problem on other distros and Xubuntu right out of the box. Anyone knows a solution to this?
[15:36] <no_gravity> trijntje: there is nothing in /usr/share/applications/
[15:36] <k1l_> MonkeyDust: no_gravity that is the new version of that desktop compariosn: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[15:36] <no_gravity> trijntje: oh, there is...
[15:37] <Langley> How do I know the name of my root partition?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  looks great
[15:38] <OerHeks> k1l_, nice overview
[15:38] <no_gravity> So whats a gnome2 like DE? cinnamon?
[15:38] <trijntje> Langley: what do you mean with name of the root partition
[15:38] <m100> no_gravity: MATE
[15:39] <Langley> trijntje: I need to do a "$ sudo fsck /dev/sda5" but replace sda5 with whatever my root partition is
[15:39] <no_gravity> m100: its not in the repos, right?
[15:39] <k1l_> no_gravity: cinnamon or mate from the mint community. but honestly both got some real issues and i would suggest to take a look at lubuntu
[15:39] <trijntje> Langley: type mount in a terminal
[15:39] <OerHeks> no_gravity, mate is removed in 14.04 but will return in 14.10
[15:39] <trijntje> check the line that has / as mountpoint
[15:40] <fevas4> Hi, I have an issue with NFS. I have two virtually identical shares from the same server to the same client. However after mounting, one has perms 777 and the other 000, I want non-root to be able to read both. Here's a few config details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8072202/ - Anybody have any ideas as to what might be causing the different perms?
[15:40] <Langley> Guess its sdb1 then..
[15:40] <no_gravity> k1l_: so how can i switch to mate or cinnamon in ubuntu?
[15:40] <k1l_> !info mate
[15:40] <k1l_> !info cinnamon
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  install it, logout, switch, login
[15:41] <m100> I think you need a PPA
[15:41] <Langley> How do I unmount it?
[15:41] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: how do i install it?
[15:41] <Langley> Nevermind..
[15:41] <m100> no_gravity: Google MATE desktop.
[15:41] <no_gravity> MonkeyDust: something like "deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/archive/1.8/ubuntu trusty main" and then apt-get it?
[15:41] <k1l_> no_gravity: cinnamon got removed from the ubuntu repos due to issues with the gnome base