[00:04] <tsimonq2> o/ acheronUK
[00:34] <tsimonq2> acheronUK, clivejo, valorie, ahoneybun_: Please test: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/sddm-0.14/+packages
[05:49] <chatter29> hey guys
[05:49] <chatter29> allah is doing
[05:49] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[05:49] <krytarik> chatter29 is doing.
[05:49] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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[09:42] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: as I just PM'd you with, debian now default to their maui theme in that. our destop depends would likely override that, but think I would still prefer id the recommends was not set at 'sddm-theme-debian-maui | sddm-theme' just in case
[09:43] <acheronUK> 'sddm-theme-breeze | sddm-theme' maybe
[09:45] <acheronUK> no ubuntu flavour is going to want the sddm-theme-debian-maui theme, so having it in there in depends/recommends, even as an '| or' to the sddm-theme virtual package is pointless at best
[11:31] <clivejo> yofel: what are your thoughts on adding sddm to KCI?
 @acheronUK, Ack
 @clivejo, No please, we should keep it flavor-agnostic.
 So that way Lubuntu can work.
[12:47] <clivejo> tsimonq2: why would adding it to KCI make it not  flavor-agnostic?
[12:49] <clivejo> KCI is about testing and eeing how all the +1 components interact, and trying to fix any issues before it goes into the archive
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:53] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[12:53] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
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[15:29] <clivejo> !info flatbuffers unstable
[15:33] <clivejo> @tsimonq2: did you ever qt speench thingie working?
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[16:09] <ahoneybun_> clivejo: you mean SimonSays?
[16:09] <ahoneybun_> xD
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FHYfpijX/file_2435.png
[19:14] <mamarley> Anyone upgraded to Artful yet? :P
 I didn't see it yet in do-release-upgrade -d
[19:18] <mamarley> I usually do upgrades by /s/oldversion/newversion in /etc/apt/sources.list and the relevant/available repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then do a normal dist-upgrade.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> mamarley, yup, I sed'd my sources list , and changed my hostname
[19:19]  * mamarley will probably upgrade not after stuff starts getting staged for Artful, unless there are major problems or something.
[19:23] <BluesKaj> i'm just using the regular repos , no ppas yet
[19:28] <santa_> mamarley: just in case you care add-apt-repository doesn't support it yet apparently
[19:29] <acheronUK> did upgrade, but downgraded again until a few issues get sorted
[19:30] <acheronUK> santa_: yep. python-apt with the new artful template is stuck in proposed
[19:31] <BluesKaj>  sudo sed -i 's/zesty/artful/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:31] <acheronUK> can add it yourself to /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info to get add-apt-repository if you care enough
[20:18] <santa_> acheronUK: I couldn't reproduce this on artful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ka/+bug/1685603
[20:19] <acheronUK> santa_: odd
[20:19] <acheronUK> lemme see
[20:19] <santa_> oh wait
[20:19] <santa_> I can
[20:20] <acheronUK> santa_: can reproduce?
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[20:31] <santa_> acheronUK: yes, working on it
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[20:39] <acheronUK> clivejo: looks like KCI will build for artful again :)
[20:40] <clivejo> nice one
[20:46] <acheronUK> time to prod stuff in advance of the nightly build
[20:48] <santa_> clivejo, acheronUK: any objection if I stage fw for artful? mostly as a test of our stuff
[20:51] <acheronUK> that should not interfere with staging plasma 5.9.5 later in the week?
[20:52] <acheronUK> presumably not
[20:52] <santa_> it shouldn't, on the contrary, I want to test KA in advance to do the job
[20:53] <santa_> I presume you are going to stage plasma for artful?
[20:53] <acheronUK> santa_: 5.33 I assume?
[20:53] <acheronUK> santa_: I planned to
[20:54] <acheronUK> and stage for zesty updates as well
[20:54] <santa_> yes, 5.33
[20:54] <santa_> I think plasma 5.9.5 should be done as an SRU
[20:55] <acheronUK> santa_: point release like that straight after release used to be done as SRU's into updates, yes.
[20:55] <acheronUK> if we can get back doing that, then I agree
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[20:55] <santa_> yes
[20:56] <santa_> would be really sad if we had to tell our users to add a ppa just to get a bugfix release
[20:57] <acheronUK> well, lets aim for that outcome anyway. see how it goes.
[20:59] <santa_> ok, lets go
[20:59] <acheronUK> santa_: go where?
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[21:00] <santa_> acheronUK: to stage 5.33
[21:00] <acheronUK> santa_: right :)
[21:08] <acheronUK> santa_: I assume the new KA is ready to use?
[21:09] <santa_> acheronUK: I think so, I tested early alpahs againt tritemio and a ppa
[21:09] <santa_> * alphas
[21:10] <acheronUK> santa_: ok. will give that a spin tomorrow. not going to mess with it tonight now
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[21:12] <santa_> acheronUK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ka
[21:13] <santa_> I have been reporting bugs to myself XD
[21:13] <santa_> mostly as notes, so I don't forget
[21:13] <acheronUK> santa_: wow XD
[21:13] <santa_> + I can label some as junior jobs
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[21:24] <valorie> huh, fossbytes reports that Ubuntu will come with wayland as stock
[21:24] <valorie> https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-17-10-release-date-new-features/
[21:26] <acheronUK> fallback to X still on the iso I think?
[21:27] <valorie> yes
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[21:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[22:14] <clivejo> acheronUK: I thought you fixed it *rolls eyes*
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[22:16] <acheronUK> clivejo: it will fix itself. in time....
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[22:16] <clivejo> you think?!?
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[22:20] <valorie> default to wayland is a bit problematic for us, perhaps -- because kwin isn't ready, and mgraesslin will be gone for much of the next few months
[22:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[22:20] <valorie> but if we can use x and have wayland as an option, that would be cool
[22:20] <acheronUK> valorie: who say WE have to to default to it?
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[22:22] <tsimonq2> clivejo: Because that would mean you have to commit to the packaging to update it
[22:22] <tsimonq2> clivejo: qtspeech> Give or take, yeah.
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[22:24] <clivejo> tsimonq2: I don't see the problem
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[22:24] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: a MP would be fine
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[22:25] <acheronUK> tsimonq2 clivejo: wxl can commit
[22:25] <valorie> acheronUK: not saying anybody is making us do anything
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[22:26] <valorie> but I anticipate that we'll get less help from Ubuntu folks than we have been
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[22:26] <valorie> because there are fewer of them, and they have a LOT on their plate this cycle
[22:26] <acheronUK> valorie: yep. sorta expect that anyway
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[22:26] <tsimonq2> clivejo: Because it would be in KUBUNTU's packaging
[22:27] <tsimonq2> clivejo: You guys could commit but not other flavors
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[22:27] <clivejo> they could easily submit merge requests
[22:27] <tsimonq2> acheronUK, clivejo: But the goal is to be agnostic
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Why should Kubuntu be the flavor to dictate which changes go into SDDM?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Just saying :P
[22:28] <valorie> so I'm happy we're getting an early jump on Artful
[22:28] <clivejo> so the better solutions is that they have to go through you as the only person with Debian commit access?
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[22:30] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I'm the only person with commit access to the Debian Qt/KDE team's Git repos?!?
[22:30] <tsimonq2> clivejo: And it wouldn't be under collab-maint...
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[22:31] <clivejo> well who else working on the flavors has?
[22:32] <tsimonq2> clivejo: That's not the point here.
[22:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[22:32] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: not at all. tracking in our git is convenience for us, not a statement of ownership.
[22:32] <clivejo> well I don't see what your point it
[22:32] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: But what IS is who has the Git ownership.
[22:33] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: if others make legitimate changes outside that, like with other stuff we adapt
[22:33] <clivejo> and why having it in KCI is a problem for other flavors
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[22:33] <tsimonq2> clivejo: My point is, we should establish it in a neutral place.
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[22:33] <tsimonq2> clivejo: If you want to add it to KCI then, go ahead.
[22:33] <tsimonq2> clivejo: But I'm against putting it under Kubuntu git repos.
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[22:34] <clivejo> so you think Kubuntu repo isn't neutral?
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[22:34] <tsimonq2> I do. It's Kubuntu's.
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[22:34] <tsimonq2> Not SDDM's.
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[22:34] <clivejo> and where is SDDM's repo?
[22:34] <tsimonq2> We should establish one.
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[22:35] <valorie> isn't their repo on github?
[22:35] <clivejo> packaging repo
[22:35] <tsimonq2> valorie: The upstream is, yeah. I'm talking about packaging.
[22:35] <valorie> if we have our own branch, what's the problem?
[22:36] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: so basically this is another strop about your git access?
[22:36] <clivejo> acheronUK: nail on the head
[22:36] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: Absolutely.
[22:36] <valorie> launchpad git isn't "neutral"?
[22:37] <clivejo> valorie: apparently not
[22:37] <tsimonq2> valorie: My problem is that since other flavors are now going to use it, it shouldn't be under a Kubuntu-specific space.
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[22:37] <tsimonq2> valorie: Launchpad Git is neutral, Launchpad Git that only Kubuntu has access to isn't neutral, it's partial to Kubuntu.
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[22:37] <valorie> where is the Qt packaging living?
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[22:37] <tsimonq2> valorie: Debian's repos. Timo was very good at collaborating with them.
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[22:38] <acheronUK> wxl can make changes. others can upload. nothing stops us tracking it in our git
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[22:38] <valorie> the Qt packaging for *ubuntu* still lives at Debian git?
[22:38] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: Sure, nothing is stopping you, but that's not the point.
[22:38] <tsimonq2> valorie: Correct.
[22:39] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: Just because wxl can doesn't mean the Lubuntu Development Team can.
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[22:39] <valorie> well, the reason we stopped keeping our packaging there, is 1. debian git was too difficult to use, since it went down frequently, and 2. they didn't use or collaborate with us on packaging anyway, in spite of our efforts to foster that collaboration
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[22:40] <acheronUK> they don't need to. if lubuntu wanted to get something changed and all the flavours that use it agree, then it could be uploaded and thsoe changes merged into our git
[22:40] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: But isn't the Kubuntu workflow to commit then upload?
[22:40] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: That's my problem.
[22:40] <valorie> tsimonq2: so I don't see that as a "neutral" place
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[22:41] <valorie> nor do we want to take responsibility (IMO) for something not in kubuntu namespace
[22:41] <tsimonq2> valorie: But we share a good chunk of the packaging with Debian in regards to Qt, so that's totally different from Kubuntu's situation with Debian.
[22:41] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: that is an ideal not what always happens.
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[22:42] <valorie> it's true, and we're not now responsible for Qt packaging
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[22:42] <valorie> thank goodness
[22:42] <tsimonq2> valorie: You guys aren't responsible for anything, yet.
[22:42] <tsimonq2> BUT
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[22:42] <tsimonq2> If you add it to KCI, you WILL be.
[22:42] <tsimonq2> Because that's Kubuntu-specific.
[22:42] <tsimonq2> And if it breaks, y'all are on the line for it.
[22:42] <valorie> "guys"
[22:42] <valorie> :(
[22:43] <clivejo> tsimonq2: you are creating a problem that doesn't exist
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[22:43] <tsimonq2> valorie: Bah stop picking apart my language, you get it, gal too :P
[22:43] <clivejo> KCI is for testing
[22:43] <valorie> oooo, pot calls the kettle black!
[22:43] <valorie> lol
[22:43] <tsimonq2> clivejo: KCI = Kubuntu packaging = more than one branch = also what we use to upload to the archive
[22:43] <acheronUK> being on KCI does NOT make us responsible for it. that is absurd
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[22:44] <clivejo> tsimonq2: you really surprise me with your understanding, or lack of it regarding KCI
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Gah I'll just drop it...
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Do whatever you want
[22:44] <clivejo> KCI for years worked from debian git
[22:45] <valorie> yup
[22:45] <acheronUK> KCI builds from a stable or unstable branch. not any that tracks an archive version
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[22:45] <clivejo> and can be configured to use what ever repo we want it to
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[22:45] <IrcsomeBot1> tsimonq2 was removed by: tsimonq2
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[22:48] <acheronUK> clivejo: grr. PIM is such a pain. gonna have to go through an prod each dependency level in turn if it's going to build in any sensible order!
[22:48] <clivejo> or leave it
[22:49] <clivejo> just sort itself out
[22:49] <clivejo> might take a while!
[22:49] <acheronUK> clivejo: lol. yes. but just irritates me to see the red
[22:49] <clivejo> I know
[22:49] <clivejo> hence the teasing above :P
[22:50] <acheronUK> I know. I know
[22:52] <acheronUK> clivejo: if you were serious I might have stormed of in a huff
[22:52] <acheronUK> ** cough **
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[22:52] <clivejo> I still might
[22:52] <acheronUK> noooooooooooo......
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[19:46] <preppert> Hello.
[19:53] <preppert> I wrote a handbook with the working title Ubuntu Studio for Musicians.  I am thinking about making it public domain.
[19:55] <preppert> From the "contribute" page, it sounds like this might be something that might be helpful.  Please advise on what the next steps would be?
[19:58] <ErichEickmeyer> preppert: That's great! What we're really looking for is someone to joing the official documentation team for our wiki. That said, what you've got might be a good thing to bring to the table.
[19:59] <preppert> I was unable to find the link to the Wiki.
[20:01] <ErichEickmeyer> preppert: Join and send an introductory email to our mailing list on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel and include a link to your launchpad account if you have one. If you don't, then we'll need you to sign-up for one before we can get you on the documentation team.
[20:01] <ErichEickmeyer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio is the official wiki.
[20:03] <preppert> Sure, I think I might be able to help.  Could I tell you a bit more about what's in the handbook?
[20:03] <ErichEickmeyer> Sure!
[20:04] <preppert> I attempted to go through most of the audio software that comes out of the box.  It also has a little background on sythesis.
[20:05] <ErichEickmeyer> Excellent. Any chance you can go into detaili on the mailing list?
[20:05] <preppert> And there are reviews of freeware VST instruments.  A short section on what Mastering is.  So this is for someone who hasn't used Ubuntu and is pretty new to home recording.
[20:06] <ErichEickmeyer> Yes! This is valuable.
[20:06] <preppert> Oh - sure.  I will get all that set up later today.
[20:06] <ErichEickmeyer> Perfect!
[20:06] <preppert> Won't bug you further.
[20:06] <ErichEickmeyer> No worries! Glad to have you (hopefully) join the team!
[20:07] <preppert> Thanks for the encouragement and pointers.
[20:08] <ErichEickmeyer> Of course! It's nice to have someone writing about Ubuntu Studio. To get you on the documentation team with that kind of writing and know-how is a win for us!
[20:10] <preppert> I have been using Ubuntu Studio a long time and this would be a great way of giving back.
[20:11] <preppert> Also...something like a little handbook appears to be sort of missing, unless I just couldn't find it?
[20:11] <ErichEickmeyer> Well, thank you! I have to go now, but thanks!
[20:11] <preppert> Bye.


[00:15] <holstein> ScottL: sorry im out
[00:15] <holstein> i'll help with that FW device when i can though
[00:15] <holstein> we can make an appointment if needed
[01:28] <ScottL> holstein, i don't think it's a rush :)   i pointed them at the FFADO website, we might not need to intervene at all
[12:33] <scott-work> bassburner:  your name is andrew, correct?
[12:51] <falktx> scott-work: i need to talk to you, do you have some time?
[12:59] <scott-work> falktx: sure


[11:19] <sagaci> I had a quick look in #launchpad-translators, which seems to be defunct... just wondering if there was a page or a way to generate the translatable project in launchpad
[11:19] <sagaci> projects*
[11:26] <dpm> hi sagaci, what do you mean "generate the translatable projects"
[11:29] <sagaci> see what projects are translatable in launchpad
[11:30] <sagaci> I think of a project I'd like to translate and you go to their project page and most aren't translatable
[11:30] <sagaci> but for instance, Quassel and Chromium Browser are translatable but not part of Ubuntu, I'd like to know what other packages out there on LP are translatable in LP
[11:31] <sagaci> another random one I did today was gtk-recordmydesktop
[12:00] <artnay> sagaci: https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/+products-with-translations
[12:01] <artnay> sagaci: it's just a long list and you can't sort it (which sucks)
[12:01] <artnay> sagaci: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/812243
[12:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 812243 in launchpad "Allow translatable projects to be sorted in more versatile ways (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Low,Triaged]
[12:03] <artnay> sagaci: and although chromium is translatable, its translations are not maintained anymore
[12:03] <artnay> sagaci: that is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/888617
[12:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 888617 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Chromium translations on LP no longer updated (affects: 2) (heat: 32)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:04] <artnay> I hope canonical will hire those webkit engineers soon enough
[12:04] <artnay> to get translation templates updated
[12:07] <sagaci> thanks artnay, exactly what I was looking for
[12:09] <sagaci> artnay: how hard is it to update translation templates, can't someone from the community do it or does it require special permissions
[12:09] <artnay> sagaci: you're welcome. please +1 to those bugs if they affect you as well
[12:10] <sagaci> artnay: you can batch those templates into 300, wouldn't be a bad idea to export them and sort them properly on a wiki page or something
[12:17] <dpm> sagaci, artnay, Canonical has never maintaned Chromium translations, this was done by a community member
[12:23] <artnay> dpm: sure
[12:25] <artnay> dpm: I spoke with micahg and I was told that once chromium daily builds are on again, translations would be next
[12:25] <artnay> daily builds are active now but translations are not
[12:26] <dpm> artnay, ah, cool. Would you mind following up with micahg to see what the translations situation is?
[12:31] <sagaci> thanks, mainly because I use Chromium :)
[14:34] <dpm> sagaci, if you talk to micahg re: Chromium translations, please let me know, I'm also interested in them
[14:44] <artnay> dpm: I already asked, haven't received a reply yet
[14:56] <kelemengabor> dpm: I just checked my calendar: no phone call scheduled for this week? Is it already Christmas? :)
[15:55] <dpm> hi kelemengabor, there should be a call scheduled on the calendar, let me check, _however_, I'll be on holiday already and possibly with no Internet, so I won't be able to chair the call
[17:41] <dpm> any translator up to help me for a non-translations-related test? Could you click on this link, log in and tell me what you see?
[17:41] <dpm> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/
[17:49] <kelemengabor> dpm: on it...
[17:51] <kelemengabor> dpm: I was logged in via openid, then: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/pix/K%C3%A9perny%C5%91k%C3%A9p-Your%20applications%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png
[17:52] <dpm> kelemengabor, excellent, thanks!
[18:18] <dpm> kelemengabor, can you see https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/390/ ?
[18:18] <kelemengabor> Simple English-Slovak, Slovak-English dictionary, written in Perl, compact, capable of looking up word from clipboard
[18:18] <kelemengabor> I guess I do :)
[18:50] <dpm> cool, thanks again kelemengabor :)
[19:35] <kelemengabor> dpm: this package reminds me that it would be nice to see sometimes a list of templates which are no longer in main: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecore - we had such a few cycles ago
[19:51] <kelemengabor> okay, ecore disabled in natty & newer. also disabled pessulus and desktopcouch in precise.
[19:51] <dpm> kelemengabor, did we have that at all? I seem to think it was a web page generated by the desktop team for desktop packages in main we were using as a workaround
[19:52] <kelemengabor> I remember mails to the UTC list from Arne... and some wiki page too
[19:53] <kelemengabor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators/OngoingProjects/UnknownDomains
[19:53] <kelemengabor> this one
[19:54] <kelemengabor> "When generating language-packs, occasionally errors show up in the log." -yup, and this log is not available to anyone :(
[20:05] <dpm> ah, yes
[20:05] <dpm> they're generated manually when creating full langpacks
[20:06] <kelemengabor> and do you see any chance that these will be published somewhere? :)
[20:06] <dpm> it shouldn't be a problem to send them to the mailing list manually
[20:07] <kelemengabor> btw, xine-lib went to universe too: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/xine-lib - deactivating...
[20:07] <dpm> I'm not sure I'll have time over holidays, though. I'll send an e-mail to pitti, as we need to generate the first langpack
[20:07] <dpm> for precise
[20:07] <kelemengabor> that would be nice :)
[20:39] <dpm> I'm not sure I'll be much online these holidays, which I'm starting tomorrow.


[08:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:34] <penguin42> Hey BK
[12:44] <BluesKaj> hey
[16:36] <lewq> heya. I'm running xenial daily (from yesterday), and hdmi audio output is all playing at half-speed/half-frequency. any ideas?
[16:37] <lewq> switching to headphone output, audio is fine
[16:38] <lewq> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BBiwcGO9/
[16:39] <lewq> it's one of these: http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/nuc/overview.html


[00:02] <nigelb> whats the workflow if a source is in bzr? just fix, commit, and request merge?
[00:04] <ivoks> yes
[00:04] <ivoks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment
[00:05] <nigelb> sponsorship?
[00:05] <ivoks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/SeekingSponsorship
[00:06] <nigelb> oh, the diff = debdiff?
[08:14] <toabctl> hi
[08:15] <persia> Hey toabctl
[08:15] <toabctl> i have a package (xf86-input-wacom and want to update the package to the latest git. how can i do that?
[08:15] <persia> I'd suggest talking to the ubuntu X folk for details, but there's a generic link.
[08:15] <persia> !update
[08:16] <toabctl> i know that i can use uupdate to update the package with the latest tar.gz file. is there something like this for got?
[08:16] <persia> That's not it at all !
[08:16] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[08:16] <toabctl> persia, ah. last link looksinteresting. thx!
[08:16] <persia> You want the tar.gz artifact anyway, but git-buildpackage documentation may also help.
[08:17] <persia> But you really do want to talk to the X team about it.  The chances of finding someone here who does X are decidedly lower than finding someone there.
[08:19] <toabctl> persia, ok
[09:31] <jariq> While building the package I got bunch of warnings like this one: "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libdbus-1.so.3 could be avoided if "debian/ipwatchd-gnotify/usr/sbin/ipwatchd-gnotify" were not uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols)." These libraries are added automaticaly by "pkg-config --libs libnotify" so I cannot fix this easily. Is it something I can ignore ???
[09:32] <RAOF> jariq: You can ignore it, or you can pass --as-needed through to ld via various mystical processes.
[09:33] <RAOF> Which will cause ld to only add NEEDED mentions for libraries which actually provides used symbols.
[09:34] <RAOF> With the only slight drawback that it doesn't work with stock libtool.
[09:35] <persia> Or one could go play with libnotify to make pkg-config generate a different list, or change the build system to specify libraries directly, or ...
[09:35] <persia> (note that if changing the build system, it's best to perform analysis in ./configure or equivalent, rather than hardcoding, etc.)
[09:35] <jariq> persia: that was exactly my thought that this should be fixed in libnotify
[09:36] <RAOF> It should be, yes.
[09:37] <RAOF> Teach upstream about Libs.private.
[09:37] <persia> Packaging libraries well is hard.  Being upstream for a library is even harder.
[09:42] <RAOF> Heh.  We get to moan about keeping ABI; they have to actually maintain it :)
[10:07] <Luctor> is this the correct channel for asking questions about packaging ?
[10:07] <Luctor> i mean, Hi All :-)
[10:09] <lifeless> it is a good question for doing that
[10:10] <Luctor> i'm trying to create a package for Sonic Visualiser (http://www.sonicvisualiser.org)
[10:11] <Luctor> I managed to create a source package and a binary deb ... but .... the make install bit in compiling doesn't do anything.
[10:11] <Luctor> You have to manually copy the binary to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[10:12] <Luctor> so how / where / what do I have to edit ?
[10:13] <lifeless> you can use a <packagename>.install file to do the copy for you
[10:13] <lifeless> man dh_install
[10:13] <Luctor> aha
[10:13] <Luctor> thanks, will look into that
[10:17] <Luctor> yup, just looked in the man page, does excatly what I was looking for
[10:18] <lifeless> cool
[10:18] <Luctor> the package also has 2 build dependencies that aren't in the repo's
[10:19] <Luctor> how do I solve that if I want to upload sonicvisualiser to my ppa ?
[10:19] <lifeless> upload them to your PPA, or to another PPA that you mark as a dependency
[10:20] <Luctor> so first upload the dependencies to my PPA, then sonicvisualiser ...
[10:20] <lifeless> yes
[10:21] <Luctor> cool ! If I get everything done, I'm gonna be damn proud :-)
[10:26] <Luctor> oh .. and if I want to build it via pbuilder, how do I resolve the dependencies ? as far as I understand pbuilder creates a clean default install , so that would mean that the dependencies aren't there
[10:27]  * Luctor is puzzled
[10:29] <jariq> Luctor: thats why you have dependecies listen in control file in Build-Depends section
[10:29] <persia> Luctor: I usually use apt-ftparchive to create a local mirror for that sort of test condition, but some folk use PPAs.  Essentially, just put the files in some repo, and then adjust the sources.list inside the pbuilder to use it.
[10:30] <persia> (assuming you've already sorted the issues jariq addressed)
[10:30] <Luctor> build dependencies are sorted
[10:31] <Luctor> sources.list in pbuilder ... I guess I gotta read man pbuilder :-)
[10:31] <jariq> so pbuilder will autoamticaly download required packages
[10:31] <lifeless> yes
[10:32] <Luctor> --othermirror ???
[11:00] <kklimonda> when purging is remove always called in postrm script?
[11:03] <lifeless> I don't recall offhand; see debian policy on maintainer scripts.
[11:05] <geser> kklimonda: depends if the package was still installed when purged
[11:05] <Luctor> gotta go
[11:05] <Luctor> cya and thanks
[11:05] <kklimonda> geser: ok, thanks
[11:05] <geser> "postrm remove" is called on remove and remove+purge
[11:06] <geser> see http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/MaintainerScripts for nice graphics how the scripts are called
[11:46] <kklimonda> does this postrm look like something that isn't going to eat my children: http://pastebin.com/mZjkzffB ?
[11:47] <kklimonda> I've moved removal of the /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info so it fires only on purge (and only it - previously all dpkg-stateoverride were run twice which generates warnings)
[12:06] <geser> which owner have the files in /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info?
[12:07] <geser> and you leave the info directory on purpose (after you remove every file in it)?
[12:16] <luctor> hi, still trying to build a package in pbuilder
[12:16] <luctor> if run sudo pbuilder create  --othermirror "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ppa/ubuntu karmic main"
[12:17] <luctor> but pbuilder still fetches the outdated dependencies
[12:18] <luctor> running pbuilder update show it throws a gpg error on the ppa ..
[12:20] <luctor> oh wait. forgot to check if it build locally ..
[12:22] <kklimonda> geser: files in info/ belong to transmission-daemon:transmission-daemon, the folder is left because.. actually it doesn't make any sens to leave it if all files and subdirectories are removed, I'll have to ask debian maintainer about it - may be his mistake
[12:23] <kklimonda> geser: it's still removed by dpkg because no file is in it so I think "rm -rf" is a mistake (there are some files that could be useful to users in the info/ directory and are not part of configuration)
[12:24] <geser> kklimonda: does the debian-transmission user have any files that are only removed during purge?
[12:25] <kklimonda> geser: yes - settings.json which is configuration file and stats.json which is.. stats
[12:28] <geser> then you should probably remove the user during purge to not leave unowned files around
[12:29] <kklimonda> aren't they owned by root after statoverride is removed?
[12:29] <kklimonda> just asking - haven't really dug into that
[12:30] <geser> don't know
[13:24] <Luctor> hi
[13:26] <Luctor> I need some help creating an install file (in the debian dir of the source )
[13:28] <Luctor> after compiling I have a directory ~/src/ubuntu/sonic-visualiser-trunk-1.7.1/sv
[13:29] <Luctor> it contains a binary 'sonic-visualiser' which needs to be put in /usr/bin
[13:29] <Luctor> and some other files, icons, *.desktop files etc, all in the sv dir of the build.
[13:30] <Luctor> how would the sonic-visualiser-trunk.install file look like. I just can't figure out
[13:31] <Luctor> btw the make install of the source doesn't do anything .. " Nothing to be done for `install'.
[13:32] <Luctor> so the resulting deb package is empty ..
[15:58] <qense> I've set DEBEMAIL in .bashrc, but dch still doesn't get my e-mail address. Did I forget something?
[15:59] <nigelb> close the terminal and reopen?
[15:59] <hyperair> are there any archive admins around who can help me get taglib-sharp synced from debian?
[15:59] <qense> nigelb: I've rebooted several times since I set that variable, but no change.
[16:01] <hyperair> rebooting for a change in .bashrc seems... excessive.
[16:01] <nigelb> qense: "export DEBFULLNAME='Nigel Babu' export<EMAIL_ADDRESS>" ?
[16:01] <nigelb> got both those lines?
[16:01] <hyperair> qense: try opening a terminal and typing "echo $DEBEMAIL"
[16:02] <nigelb> hyperair: isn't it the source command to reload .bashrc?
[16:02] <qense> nigelb: yes
[16:02] <nigelb> echo works?
[16:03] <qense> nigelb: echo $DEBEMAIL correctly outputs my mail address indeed
[16:03] <hyperair> nigelb: i'm saying open a new one and echo $DEBEMAIL.
[16:03] <nigelb> ah
[16:03] <qense> I changed the variable a week ago.
[16:03] <qense> So it's not in restarting the terminal.
[16:04] <hyperair> what does dch use?
[16:05] <qense> man dch says it first checks DEBEMAIL and if that doesn't work EMAIL
[16:06] <hyperair> what is dch using?
[16:06] <hyperair> try env | grep <whatever dch is using>
[16:06] <qense> hyperair: ah! DEBEMAIL isn't in that list
[16:06] <hyperair> ._.
[16:06] <hyperair> whut?
[16:06] <hyperair> oh i see.
[16:07] <hyperair> you didn't export, did you?
[16:07] <qense> I didn't write export in front of the declaration, does that cause problems?
[16:07] <qense> just<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:07] <hyperair> you need export!
[16:07] <nigelb> I did ask you about export ;)
[16:07] <qense> ah!
[16:07] <hyperair> otherwise it's just a shell local variable.
[16:07] <hyperair> export makes it an environment variable
[16:07] <qense> ok, great
[16:07] <qense> thanks for your help, guys!
[16:08] <nigelb> :)
[16:08] <hyperair> it's the difference between setenv("DEBEMAIL"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and just DEBEMAIL =<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:08] <qense> ok, I learned something new today :)
[16:08] <nigelb> me too, I just took it for granted earlier
[16:09] <hyperair> lol
[16:09] <hyperair> i suppose i should be glad i learnt it early
[16:09]  * ejat pokes hyperair .... when will u back to KL :)
[16:10] <hyperair> ejat: may or july
[16:10] <ejat> owh ..
[16:35] <nigelb> Is something wrong with openclipart-openoffice.org package?  It seems to conflict with the current open office package in lucid
[16:37] <hyperair> qense: regarding the bug you just filed against banshee.. it doesn't seem related to mtp, but sqlite.
[16:38] <qense> hyperair: doesn't that make the bug even worse?
[16:38] <nigelb> okay, so openclipart package in lucid right now seems to have been built against an older version of openoffice than we have in lucid
[16:39] <hyperair> qense: that makes it sqlite's problem, not banshee's.
[16:39] <nigelb> anything I can do to fix this openclipart trouble ?
[16:39] <qense> hyperair: ok
[16:40] <hyperair> qense: well anyway, you could look into purging your ~/.config/banshee-1/banshee.db file
[16:40] <hyperair> qense: my guess is that sqlite didn't sync properly prior to crashing.
[16:40] <qense> yeah
[16:40] <qense> ok
[16:40] <hyperair> qense: what is needed is the backtrace from your first crash.
[16:40] <qense> I don't have that, unfortunately
[16:41] <hyperair> could you try reproducing that first crash?
[16:41] <hyperair> if you can't, then please mark the bug invalid
[16:41] <qense> ok
[16:41] <hyperair> thanks.
[16:44] <qense> btw, apt-get source dbus-glib returns a dbus-glib where the changelog says it should built for unstable, even though I'm running Lucid.
[16:44] <qense> Is that normal?
[16:44] <hyperair> that is normal, if the package was synced.
[16:44] <hyperair> i.e. X.Y.Z-N rather than X.Y.Z-NubuntuM
[16:44] <qense> it is
[16:44] <hyperair> yeah then it's synced
[16:44] <qense> ok, thx
[16:45] <hyperair> our synced packages are completely the same as the ones in debian
[16:45] <hyperair> well the source anyway
[16:45] <hyperair> the  binaries are rebuilt
[16:54] <sgnb> randomaction: I tried to create a lucid chroot on my armel box (a SheevaPlug running Debian) to reproduce coq ftbfs... but mount segfaults at mounting /proc... armel port of ubuntu isn't very reliable, is it?
[16:55] <randomaction> sgnb: I never tried to use it, but I have impression it's quite fragile
[16:55] <randomaction> sgnb: FYI newer pbuilder-dist supports cross-building for armel
[16:56] <randomaction> (I never tried it as well)
[16:59] <sgnb> randomaction: didn't know about pbuilder-dist... but seems orthogonal...
[17:00] <Laney> sgnb: there is #ubuntu-arm
[17:00] <Laney> you're more likely to find appropriate help there
[17:27] <yofel> hi, what's the process to get a package synced from debian? (to get bug 516771 fixed)
[17:30] <Rhonda> yofel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[17:32] <hyperair> use teh requestsync
[17:32] <Rhonda> hyperair: That's point 4 on that page. :)
[17:33] <hyperair> oh
[17:33] <hyperair> heh
[17:33] <hyperair> =p
[17:33] <Rhonda> But the overall picture should also be known before using that tool.
[17:33] <yofel> Rhonda: thx
[19:19] <Laney> crimsun: Are you aware of an issue in Lucid where I can't change individual mixer elements? If I try to modify them then it just changes master.
[19:19] <Laney> want a bug?
[19:55] <nigelb> openclipart-openoffice.org needs to be synced from debian, should file a ffe bug?
[19:57] <lifeless> yes
[19:57] <lifeless> unless its a bugfix only
[19:57] <lifeless> actually, if its a sync, use requestsync anyway
[19:58] <nigelb> its about bug 516771
[19:58] <nigelb> the openclipart package cannot be installed because of the conflicts and it seems to be fixed in debian
[20:01] <nigelb> I'll request a sync later today after I've tested it then
[20:01] <lifeless> you can convert the existing bug to a sync
[20:01] <nigelb> ah, will do :)
[20:53] <bdrung> do we need a FFe for an 3.1.0~rc1-1  -> 3.1.0-1  update?
[20:53] <lifeless> if its not a bugfix-only, yes
[21:00] <bdrung> lifeless: rc1 -> release should be a bugfix only
[21:02] <lifeless> well, you know the upstream, you need to make that assessment
[21:06] <bdrung> lifeless: why do you assume that i know the upstream?
[21:06] <bdrung> lifeless: i am just working  on the sponsoring queue
[21:06] <lifeless> ah
[21:06] <lifeless> well, the thing to figure out is if it is a bugfix only change
[21:07] <lifeless> whomever put it in the queue should ahve said.
[21:07] <lifeless> I wouldn't assume rc1->release is safe. It likely is, but maybe it isn't. If in doubt ask 'is this a bugfix only change'
[21:07] <bdrung> i looked at the debdiff
[21:08] <lifeless> if you're happy, do it ;)
[21:09] <lifeless> I didn't realise you were an archive admin was all
[21:09] <lifeless> oh sorry, I totally assumed this was a sync change.
[21:09] <lifeless> mea culpa
[21:10] <crimsun> Laney: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PulseAudioStoleMyVolumes
[21:12] <Laney> well, this also effects the sound preferences capplet
[21:12] <Laney> what I want to do is turn down the sub
[21:15] <crimsun> Laney: modify the LFE element in the PAprofile
[21:16] <bdrung> lifeless: i am not yet a archive-admin ;)
[21:18] <crimsun> Laney: i.e., in each [Element LFE] in /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/*, change switch/volume/enumeration to Ignore
[21:19] <Laney> ok, I'll try it later (on another machine now)
[21:20] <Laney> sound prefs should stop exposing controls it can't actually change
[22:08] <kamalmostafa> bdrung: fyi, I answered your question in bug 521190 -- all just trivial bug fixes, no new features.
[22:09] <bdrung> kamalmostafa: why is this package in multiverse?
[22:11] <kamalmostafa> bdrung: well, i didn't put it there ;-) so I can't be sure, but I imagine its because of the "Restrictions" listed at: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/nauty/
[22:12] <bdrung> kamalmostafa: the title said debian main, but it's in non-free. that led to my question
[22:13] <kamalmostafa> bdrung: my only involvement with nauty is that I fixed its FTBFS for Lucid -- my patch was integrated upstream and at Debian, so now I'm following up on that -- I may very well have screwed up the title of the bug though.
[22:14] <ScottK> It's in non-free in Debian
[22:16] <kamalmostafa> ScottK: hi -- thanks -- yes I see that I "converted" the old FTBFS bug into a sync request, so I just botched the title
[22:20] <bdrung> kamalmostafa: done
[22:21] <kamalmostafa> bdrung: thank you
[22:21] <bdrung> np


[21:01] <flaccid> erichammond: the process has started :) pm us when you are alive
[21:18] <erichammond> flaccid: Just got up, but I'm off to my son's soccer scrimmage soon.
[21:21] <flaccid> np