[05:44] <slavik`lap> :)
[05:44] <genefitz> Will do
[05:44] <Pelo> slavik`lap, add a   | nick   after your  triggers so they are directed at someone
[05:44] <neozen> ah... that sounds right
[05:44] <slavik`lap> Pelo: I know about pipes ;)
[05:45] <paul0> slavik`lap, i should change my sources.list to use gutsy repositories or i just run update-manager?
[05:45] <genefitz> Pelo: I use a different system, but I am sure the repos probably have modded and optomized drivers for Ubuntu.
[05:45] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: I not finding in the browser for adobe flashplayer, show I find on the Home dir?
[05:45] <numus> whats the command to edit a file
[05:45] <slavik`lap> paul0: gksudo update-manager -d I think, but backup your data and don't use it on production machines
[05:45] <q_a_z_steve> why does firefox say it doesn't support open search when I try to add from mycroft???
[05:45] <neozen> numus: depends on the person
[05:45] <genefitz> I know the repos for Fedora, like Livna have specially mod'ed drivers and such to work better with Fedora
[05:45] <nickrud> numist, gedit
[05:45] <slavik`lap> numus: vim
[05:45] <Pelo> PwcrLinux,  do a search for it try locate flash in the terminal
[05:45] <macogw> numus: nano
[05:46] <PwcrLinux> okay
[05:46] <neozen> numus: many use gedit... or nano... or even emacs.... I prefer vim
[05:46] <Pelo> PwcrLinux,  and in synaptic search for flash , not adobe flash
[05:46] <numus> well that didn't help my problem with the card lol
[05:46] <fuuma> lol
[05:46] <paul0> slavik`lap, is that unstable? i was using the debian testing without problems..
[05:46] <neozen> "an elegant weapon... from a more civilized age"
[05:46] <macogw> numus: gedit if you have a gui, vim if you dont, nano if you dont have a gui and dont know vim
[05:46] <nickrud> oh, macogw you need to factoid that one
[05:46] <neozen> yeah that sounds right
[05:46] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: yea, I need to remove before install it..
[05:47] <slavik`lap> paul0: if gutsy breaks your system, don't complain about it, that's all. it's in dev, not release
[05:47] <neozen> and emacs... if you like an OS IN your editor
[05:47] <paul0> slavik`lap, hm... i see
[05:47] <ianmcorvidae> lol
[05:47] <slavik`lap> neozen: when your text editor can play tetris, it is not a text editor anymore
[05:47] <macogw> nickrud: what?
[05:47] <q_a_z_steve> anyone know a good channel for help with Thibor firmware?
[05:47] <neozen> I agree
[05:48] <macogw> slavik`lap: hahahaha.  yeah "i like emacs, but its text editor sucks"
[05:48] <FatherTime> Does Automatix present any conflicts with the normal package manager?  Say when you download a later version of FireFox using Automatix, does the package manager then try to downgrade it?
[05:48] <nickrud> macogw, there used to be an !editor factoid, something like that one
[05:48] <macogw> FatherTime: dont use automatix
[05:48] <paul0> slavik`lap, i'm using the amd64 ubuntu, but i the feisty doesn't have amd64 binaries to sun-java6, so i can't use it with firefox
[05:48] <FatherTime> really?
[05:48] <genefitz> paul0: I have a soft spot for testing and "unstable" systems. It really is a 50/50.   When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:48] <nickrud> !automatix | FatherTime
[05:48] <ubotu> FatherTime: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:48] <Flannel> FatherTime: yes, its very dangerous
[05:48] <johnjohn> punkunity: did that work with just changing the .mp3 to what u wanted?
[05:48] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: I found it, do I need to remove the 2 files, what's the DS_store?
[05:48] <slavik`lap> paul0: dunno what to say, but I am on gutsy atm
[05:48] <FatherTime> so you have to download and configure all those .mp3 codecs and video codes manually?
[05:48] <neozen> anything automatix can do.. you can do yourself
[05:48] <Pb2007> does anyone know of a photoshop clone for linux ?
[05:48] <genefitz> paul0, I say, if you want to use Gutsy, go ahead, but be sure not to keep anything too important on the system.. Just in case it takes a dive
[05:48] <Pelo> PwcrLinux,  ds_store ? know idea
[05:48] <neozen> FatherTime: its not so bad
[05:48] <macogw> FatherTime: because it breaks things.  it can make it so that when you try to upgrade to a new version of ubuntu, it goes bonkers and the upgrade doesnt work, and then you come here complaining that the update broke and we cant help because automatix made it be stupid
[05:49] <wastrel> vas:  i am a bad programmer but here it is :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34023/
[05:49] <paul0> genefitz, what does 50/50 means?
[05:49] <Punkunity> it works, but now i need to see if i can put it on my psp and play it back with the psp
[05:49] <q_a_z_steve> Pb2007: OSAlt.com
[05:49] <neozen> FatherTime: we can help you through it
[05:49] <Punkunity> joh
[05:49] <macogw> FatherTime: no most of automatix's draw has been covered in Feisty
[05:49] <Punkunity> joh
[05:49] <Flannel> FatherTime: You don't need to do it manually.  Feisty includes automated methods ot install them already
[05:49] <Punkunity> johnjohn yeah so far
[05:49] <neozen> FatherTime: you'll be up and running in 30 min
[05:49] <macogw> FatherTime: go into the Add/Remove in applications
[05:49] <macogw> FatherTime: and have it show all packages
[05:49] <genefitz> paul0: 50/50 means it may work perfectly, it may go to heck in a hand basket..
[05:49] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: I dunno about DS_store on the plugins dir
[05:49] <FatherTime> ok i will not use it going forward--- thanks for the advice.
[05:49] <macogw> FatherTime: and one is called "ubuntu-restricted-extras" it has all the codecs and everything to get it going easy
[05:49] <q_a_z_steve> macogw: what about easyubuntu ?
[05:50] <FatherTime> thank you very  much
[05:50] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, are they in a /flash folder ? get rid of them
[05:50] <paul0> boring =(
[05:50] <slavik`lap> !easyubunty
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easyubunty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <macogw> q_a_z_steve: i havent seen its code or an analysis of it, so i don't know how it works and what it may or may not do
[05:50] <slavik`lap> !easyubuntu
[05:50] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:50] <johnjohn> punkunity cool id like to now if it works to soon im going to get me a psp will u let me know if it works?
[05:50] <slavik`lap> better than automatix :P
[05:50] <Punkunity> johnjohn sure
[05:50] <Punkunity> this porn is too buig tho
[05:51] <johnjohn> punkunity: thanks
[05:51] <macogw> FatherTime: do you have a DVD drive?
[05:51] <slavik`lap> macogw: you read the automatix analysis?
[05:51] <borovy3488> anyone good with Beryl??
[05:51] <macogw> slavik`lap: yes
[05:51] <slavik`lap> k
[05:51] <macogw> borovy3488: maybe
[05:51] <wastrel> borovy3488:  #ubuntu-effects
[05:51] <Pelo> borovy3488,  the ppl in #beryl are
[05:51] <slavik`lap> compiz-fusion :P
[05:51] <macogw> borovy3488: #ubuntu-effects is a better place to ask though
[05:51] <wastrel> hah
[05:51] <genefitz> nickrud: easyubuntu and automatix are a risky venture, some swear by them, some swear it crashes their system..
[05:51] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: none, just inside have 2 files shows flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so  leaving the DS_store..
[05:51] <genefitz> I just do the repo search for most items, and what I can't, I install individually
[05:52] <paul0> slavik`lap and genefitz, thanks for the information
[05:52] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, also try chcking in the ~/.mozilla folder and in ~/.firefox
[05:52] <slavik`lap> anytime (that I am here :P)
[05:52] <neozen> I install the newest jdk manually... and that's about it
[05:52] <nickrud> genefitz, I also, I spent a lot of time breezy/dapper time frame documenting that stuff on the wiki in response to automatix
[05:52] <neozen> oh... and installed linuxdc++
[05:52] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: okay hang on
[05:52] <macogw> i have a friend whose computer is so royally F'ed by Automatix that she has a half edgy / half feisty system and needs to reinstall because it just keeps getting worse
[05:52] <neozen> other then that... I use the repository
[05:53] <nickrud> genefitz, and people adding marilat's repos to their sources ;(
[05:53] <neozen> oh... and latest azureus
[05:53] <therealnanotube> anyone here runs ubuntu 64bit?
[05:53] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: hidden file .mozilla
[05:53] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, if your /home folder is in a different partiton you might want ot search your / partiton as well
[05:53] <FatherTime> Anyone run MythTV on ubuntu?
[05:54] <genefitz> nickrud: Yup, but as long as those are out there, and they offer an "easy install" people will use them. Especially since Pioneer Linux is pushing the heck out of Automatix..
[05:54] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: my lappy for linux only, no other os in the lappy
[05:54] <thepat20> Hi! I need help installing my printer. Anyone want to help me out?
[05:54] <nickrud> genefitz, heh. Never heard of Pioneer Linux, and that's scary
[05:54] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, not what i meant but if you didn't understand you donT need to worry about it
[05:54] <thoreauputic> thepat20: try being a bit more specific :)
[05:54] <genefitz> But hey, now that Pioneer is supporting Automatix, they may make an actual stable version..
[05:54] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: should I delete the 2 files in the plugins dir?
[05:54] <Punkunity> johnjohn, get ready in about 2 minutes
[05:55] <Punkunity> or less
[05:55] <macogw> FatherTime: hey do you have a dvd drive?
[05:55] <vic1ous> is there a way to watch cpu usage?
[05:55] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, I would say yes
[05:55] <thepat20> I need to install my HP Photosmart C4150 All in One In Ubuntu, and i am a n00b
[05:55] <genefitz> nickrud, pioneer is a paid linux distro, based in ubuntu, geared more to education and such..
[05:55] <thoreauputic> vic1ous: top
[05:55] <johnjohn> i do have a question for anyone in here i know this not the right room but how do i install a xbox 360 chillstream logitech into the ubuntu feisty
[05:55] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: Okay, I'm deleting the 2 files now
[05:55] <wastrel> vas:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34024/
[05:55] <therealnanotube> who runs 64bit ubuntu? got a really quick question for you
[05:55] <nickrud> and if someone actually swallows a bit of pride and takes mjg's criticism correctly
[05:55] <Pelo> vic1ous,  there are pannel applets and gdesklets that will let you do that
[05:55] <vic1ous> thoreauputic, thanks
[05:55] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: 2 file deleted
[05:55] <numus> ok so my card is seeing the wireless networks
[05:55] <slavik`lap> !ask | therealnanotube
[05:55] <vas> wow.. wastrel is jesus
[05:55] <ubotu> therealnanotube: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:55] <B52doc> Does ndiswrapper come with Ubuntu ?
[05:55] <numus> but no signal from them and the key isn't working
[05:56] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: ok, what's your output of "uname -m"
[05:56] <james296> can anyone tell me what the default sources.list is?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> !ndiswrapper
[05:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:56] <macogw> B52doc: on the disk, but i dont think installed by default
[05:56] <slavik`lap> if wastrel is jesus, then I am moses :P
[05:56] <nickrud> vic1ous, someone just recently told me about htop, it's really nice
[05:56] <B52doc> oh
[05:56] <neozen> B52doc: no.... but its in the repos
[05:56] <wastrel> vas it's probably buggy.  totally untested
[05:56] <Punkunity> johnjohn make that like maybe less than 10 minutes
[05:56] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, ok now go in menu > applications > add/remove and search for flash a package called restricted extras should show up, install it
[05:56] <B52doc> my wireless connection doesnt work, so I am going to d/l it I guess
[05:56] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: prefect, I checked on my tv station, there is no plugin whew
[05:56] <wastrel> also probably inefficient and for all i know illegal
[05:57] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: -m, --machine            print the machine hardware name
[05:57] <thepat20> Thoreauputic, its a HP Photosmart C4150 and i I have no idea how to install it.
[05:57] <james296> I REALLY need to know plz...
[05:57] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: yes, i know what it does. :) i want to know what it outputs on 64bit ubuntu.
[05:57] <q_a_z_steve> can anyone help me configure my router I installed Thibor, and I can't figure out how to get vnc working
[05:57] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: no idea :(
[05:57] <johnjohn> punkunity: so if its ten min or under it will work?
[05:57] <numus> this is so annoying
[05:57] <Pelo> q_a_z_steve,  if no one can answer your question here I suggest you check in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:57] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: prolly amd64
[05:57] <thoreauputic> thepat20: have you looked in System- Administration- Printing ?
[05:58] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: aye, there's the rub. :) that's why i was asking for a 64bit ubuntu user to run "uname -m" for me. :) i /think/ it should output "x86_64", but i'm not sure, since i don't have 64bit ubuntu...
[05:58] <nickrud> james, you can get a good sources at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[05:58] <thoreauputic> thepat20: most HP printers are well supported
[05:58] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: go to the forums, but why does this matter?
[05:58] <B52doc> where do I extract the ndiswrapper package to ? Does it matter ?
[05:58] <neozen> ..................don't extract ndiswrapper
[05:58] <genefitz> nickrud: Either way, I don't really trust any distro that takes a good open code, plays with it a little then tries to sell it. Which is why I am not a fan of linspire..
[05:58] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: need it for a script to detect if it's on 64bit ubuntu. :)
[05:58] <q_a_z_steve> Pelo:  Not sure what chan would be able to help, don't have a list in this chatzilla to search either
[05:58] <thepat20> thoreauputic i am looking right now
[05:58] <neozen> use the repositories
[05:58] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: ask in forums :)
[05:59] <JDStone> anyone running Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro?  I'm having some Xorg problems?
[05:59] <genefitz> Though, CNR wouldn't be a bad add on for Ubuntu, I don't think..
[05:59] <wastrel> what's cnr?
[05:59] <nickrud> genefitz, I have no problem with selling, as long as they provide valuable support. Of course, that support won't have the heart that this place has ;)
[05:59] <Pelo> q_a_z_steve,  maybe if you check on thibor website they have one listed
[05:59] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: well, i figured, it's such an amazingly quick question, and out of 1000 users here, /one/ dude must be running 64bit... that it would be quicker to come to irc. :) apparently... i was wrong...
[05:59] <thoreauputic> thepat20: usually the driver is already there and it's just a matter of clicking throught the "wizard" and choosing your model
[05:59] <slavik`lap> cnr = cut down synaptic with a different repo
[05:59] <harveyneon> howdy all
[05:59] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: but not all 1k pay attention :P
[05:59] <genefitz> wastrel, CNR is a combined repository and installer for Linspire.
[06:00] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: indeed. :) so how've you been doing, anyway, dude? :)
[06:00] <B52doc> dont have a network connection, so I cant install ndiswrapper from repo's :(
[06:00] <slavik`lap> meh
[06:00] <thepat20> throeauputic, it detects 2 printers, one on a USB 1 port and another on a USB with a long character list, which one do u recommed i pick
[06:00] <genefitz> nickrud: I agree..  Beauty of these IRC channels, is that it is easier to learn..
[06:00] <harveyneon> Looking for hard drive / partition help.....
[06:00] <BO3> HI
[06:00] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: haven't seen you in a while, haven't been around on irc
[06:00] <slavik`lap> therealnanotube: if you want to chat, join offtopic
[06:00] <TheViLliN> i have a silly question i think. why after i compile a program then try to run the executable do i get a "bash: (file here): command not found"
[06:00] <therealnanotube> slavik`lap: heh, oh yea, you're right. :)
[06:01] <coreyo> I have feisty + gnome + beryl.  The problem is that, no matter what I set as my move, menu, resize bindings in the beryl settings manager, it's always alt-mouse2 for menu and alt-mouse3 for resize
[06:01] <pc22> how do u download a website in ubuntu?
[06:01] <therealnanotube> ubuntu 64 bit users: what is your output of "uname -m" ? please? :)
[06:01] <thepat20> thoreauputic it is asking me to select a PPD file?
[06:01] <nickrud> TheViLliN, try ./<command> (the current directory is not on the PATH)
[06:01] <thoreauputic> thepat20: I have no idea :) Try whatever looks like default
[06:01] <therealnanotube> pc22: use wget
[06:01] <coreyo> whoever decided to dictate that resize would be mouse3 needs to be castrated, as it is awkward and has no logic
[06:01] <harveyneon> windows xp partition left oer at the beginning of hard drive, would like to reclaim the entire disk to ubuntu without reinstalling.. anyone know if this is possible/where to find detailed instructions? I've looked everywhere.
[06:01] <Pelo> nickrud, #debian does have a "swim or we will drown you" approach
[06:01] <thoreauputic> thepat20: you probably clicked "install driver" - don't do that
[06:01] <B52doc> does it matter where I extract the Ndiswrapper package to ? dont have a network connection to d/l it from the repo
[06:02] <wastrel> TheViLliN:  the program isn't in the command path that bash searches to locate executables.  call it with a full path  (try ./executable  if it's in the same dir) or move it to a directory in the $PATH
[06:02] <thepat20> thoreauputic yeah thats what i did
[06:02] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: Add/Remove not show the "Restricted" area, and I switched to the SPM to search for "Flash" they have a several files in it
[06:02] <thoreauputic> thepat20: check the list for your model - you probably don't need a ppd file
[06:02] <FruitLoop> can anyone help me? I can't make my any of my mics record with anything - not sound recorder or anything....
[06:02] <TheViLliN> nickrun: so you cant run a program from your home dir if its not in your path
[06:02] <wastrel> nickrud = succinct
[06:02] <Digital2501> therealnanotube: How would you use curL to mirror a website
[06:02] <thoreauputic> thepat20: because it is probably already there :)
[06:02] <nickrud> Pelo, from what I heard when I dropped in recently, it's 'here, hold this weight while we watch'
[06:02] <pc22> therealnanotube, you can download the whole website?
[06:02] <slavik`lap> B52doc: download the deb from the repos and use dpkg to install it
[06:02] <harveyneon> FruitLoop: did you check if it's muted in volume control?
[06:02] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, sorry , it does have a macromedia flash  player, that was the package I meant,  sorry it has been awhile
[06:02] <thepat20> throeauputic okay wow that was really simple
[06:03] <Pelo> !flash | PwcrLinux
[06:03] <harveyneon> FruitLoop: make sure you have your sound system working properly.
[06:03] <thepat20> thanks for ur help
[06:03] <ubotu> PwcrLinux: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:03] <wastrel> TheViLliN:  homedir isn't in path   i created ~/bin  and added it to my path for stuff like this.
[06:03] <nickrud> TheViLliN, exactly. There're good reasons for that
[06:03] <thoreauputic> thepat20: yep :)
[06:03] <Pelo> lol nickrud
[06:03] <CharlieSu> What is the difference between the alternate and server CD?  I'm building a headless server that is a mythtv backend, webserver, DB server and SVN server.   What is best for me?
[06:03] <parkbench> hallo thar, i need some help figuring out something about a network card.
[06:03] <nickrud> TheViLliN, if you make a /home/<you>/bin, ubuntu will automatically find it
[06:03] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: I am on the breezy
[06:03] <HugLeo> I found a serious error to openoffice in ubuntu. Do anybody help? Steps: Open the openffice, create a presentation, Menu Format, Slide Design, Load, select presentations to Categories and to Templates Blue and Ok.
[06:03] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: it't not muted except in recording, if I unmute it I get feedback noise.
[06:03] <harveyneon> FruitLoop: by that I mean a working sound server, you can listen to MP3's and the web, for example
[06:03] <PwcrLinux> [Linux Clock] [08/16/07] [11:03 PM] [Minneapolis, MN, USA] [Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10 Linux 2.6.12-10-386 [i686/1.99GHz] ]
[06:03] <nickrud> ah, gotta go. Bye all
[06:03] <B52doc> slavik 'lap: I dont need an internet connection to d/l it ?
[06:03] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: see above
[06:03] <therealnanotube> pc22: yea, in "man wget" look up options "-r" and "-l"
[06:03] <wastrel> automatically eh
[06:04] <harveyneon> FruitLoop: try turning it down, in volume control
[06:04] <wastrel> so i guess i can take that out of my .bashrc
[06:04] <numus> supposibly ndiswrapper is suppose to take care of it
[06:04] <TheViLliN> awesome,  thx
[06:04] <patrick__> Have a nube ? about my setup. Have 2 hd's One w/ dapper the other w/ server ver 6.06. How do I get to see both in dapper?
[06:04] <harveyneon> numus: supposibly is not a word
[06:04] <slavik`lap> HugLeo: submit bug report on launchpad please or tell OOo people
[06:04] <therealnanotube> Digital2501: i haven't used curl, so i don't know... i suspect it would be pretty similar to wget, though
[06:04] <Miso> How can I do a clean uninstall of azureus?
[06:04] <numus> harveyneon i know..
[06:04] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: I can play sounds mp3s etc .. turning what down?
[06:04] <harveyneon> numus you are teh roz0rz
[06:04] <pc22> thanks
[06:04] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, hmmm, I think you might want to upgrade  ,that is pretty much yor only alternatie if you donT' care for dling flsh from the adobe site,   you might wnat ot try restarting your computer and installing flash again from the site, it might work better
[06:04] <numus> harveyneon anyways... anyone get a wpc11 to work?
[06:04] <harveyneon> the mic should have a slider in your volume control, FruitLoop
[06:04] <johnjohn> Miso: sudo apt-get remove
[06:05] <harveyneon> supposubly numus likes to use unspeak.
[06:05] <Punkunity> johnjohn
[06:05] <ecaandrew> hi
[06:05] <Punkunity> get ready
[06:05] <johnjohn> punkunity: yea
[06:05] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: I get nuthin...
[06:05] <parkbench> i want to buy this (http://snipurl.com/1plaf) and i'm not sure if my laptop has the proper slot. i looked in HWiNFO and it says i have a "32 bit pcmcia slot" and im wondering if this is the right thing? if not, are there any network cards i could look into that work with ubuntu out of the box?
[06:05] <ecaandrew> whats up
[06:05] <Punkunity> lol
[06:05] <harveyneon> windows xp partition left oer at the beginning of hard drive, would like to reclaim the entire disk to ubuntu without reinstalling.. anyone know if this is possible/where to find detailed instructions? I've looked everywhere.
[06:05] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: yea, I rather wait till my HD dies, I plan to get other HD to install newest version of Ubuntu, I have the 6.06 CD in my box
[06:06] <Punkunity> im gonna pissed if it dont work
[06:06] <numus> what is the apt- command to search for a program
[06:06] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, we are up to 7.04 , 7.10 in 2 months
[06:06] <johnjohn> anyone want to give me a hand installing a game pad?
[06:06] <CharlieSu> numus: apt-cache search name
[06:06] <harveyneon> FruitLoop the feedback you report sounds like the mic is working and getting too much sound through to the speakers. try plugging in a set of headphones instead of your loudspeakers and see if you can hear yourself with no feedback?
[06:06] <slavik`lap> harveyneon: gparted :)
[06:06] <Pelo> PwcrLinux,  reboot the computer,  and try installing adobe flash from the site again
[06:07] <Miso> johnjohn, thanks
[06:07] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, at least now you know how to remove it if it borked again
[06:07] <johnjohn> Miso: you welcome
[06:07] <harveyneon> slavik`lap it will take over the whole drive, resizing my existing root partition on ubuntu from 8 to 40 gigs?
[06:08] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: not worry about my lappy, linux will automatic detecting that are not running flashplayer after I removed the 2 files
[06:08] <therealnanotube> does anyone have a 64bit ubuntu install handy? what's your output of "uname -m" ?
[06:08] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, you might want to give gnash a try, it's only an alpha but it' in the repos it's a flash alternative
[06:08] <slavik`lap> harveyneon: dunno if it supports resizing without formating in feisty, use a gutsy tribe 4 set up cd to resize it
[06:08] <harveyneon> holy shit i just had four ghetto birds whip over the top of my house!
[06:08] <pc22> therealnanotube, what is the --tries? i dont understand it
[06:08] <Punkunity> johnjohn, it says the data is currupted when i start the psp and go to the video section
[06:08] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: maybe I can search on the web to get alternative flash player
[06:09] <Fezzler> how can I see if my neighbors are tapping into my wireless router?
[06:09] <Punkunity> but whne i put them memory card in my computer and navigate to the video section it shows the scene from the film as the icon johnjohn
[06:09] <therealnanotube> pc22: how many times wget retries downloading a file, if the download fails or stalls.
[06:09] <pc22> thanks
[06:09] <Pelo> Fezzler,  you just need to secure your router, google for it , there are lots of howtos
[06:09] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: I hear the output from mic in the headphones when I have mic unmuted, but I still can't record anything from the mic in sound recorder
[06:09] <slavik`lap> Fezzler: see if there are too many dhcp clients in your router config stuff
[06:10] <parkbench> i want to buy this (http://snipurl.com/1plaf) and i'm not sure if my laptop has the proper slot. i looked in HWiNFO and it says i have a "32 bit pcmcia slot" and im wondering if this is the right thing? if not, are there any network cards i could look into that work with ubuntu out of the box?
[06:10] <danilo_> disculpen pero hay alguien que hable espaol? gracias
[06:10] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: does sound recorder have proper source set?
[06:10] <harveyneon> slavik`lap NICE ALPHA SWEET i'll look it up.
[06:10] <johnjohn> punkunity: sorry it was a shot i mean it worked for the .wma formats sorry it didnt work and i got no idea about the memory card icons
[06:10] <patrick__> how do I see 2 distros on 2 hd's
[06:10] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: which better the alternative flashplayer?
[06:10] <slavik`lap> !es | danilo
[06:10] <ubotu> danilo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:10] <nathan__> anyone using the cube effect that knows what ctrl-alt-UP does ?
[06:10] <danilo_> gracias
[06:10] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: I don't know.. I try both "capture" and "mic" and neither do anything.
[06:10] <Pelo> parkbench, check your lappy 's manual to see ifyou hve the correct slot
[06:10] <slavik`lap> de nada
[06:11] <harveyneon> FruitLoop: reboot!
[06:11] <Pelo> PwcrLinux,  I only know of one gnash and I have never tried it
[06:11] <parkbench> pelo: but is the one i mentioned correct?
[06:11] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: reboot? why?
[06:11] <Punkunity> johnjohn, it juts looks like itll work in the window that comes up to view the memory card in my computer....well im trying avidemux we''l see how that goes
[06:11] <Pelo> parkbench, I have no idea check the card's spec sheet
[06:11] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: gnash as the flashplayer?
[06:11] <parkbench> im just not sure if pcmcia and mini pci are the same thing
[06:11] <johnjohn> nathan__: it just changes the cube to the top view and the other arrows do the same effect with the way they r pointing
[06:11] <macogw> nathan__: top of the cube on beryl, spread it out flat on compiz, i think
[06:12] <CharlieSu> what Ubuntu CD should i use to install a Server w/ software RAID 1?
[06:12] <Pelo> PwcrLinux,  gnash is a flashplayer alternative for linux , it is in alpah
[06:12] <harveyneon> FruitLoop: ....
[06:12] <slavik`lap> parkbench: no, they aren't
[06:12] <Pelo> !info gnash | PwcrLinux
[06:12] <ubotu> pwcrlinux: gnash: free Flash movie player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu0.1 (feisty), package size 117 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:12] <johnjohn> punkunity: cool good luck with that hope it works
[06:12] <harveyneon> ***WHEN IN DOUBT, REBOOT***
[06:12] <harveyneon> ***WHEN IN DOUBT, REBOOT***
[06:12] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: ah, I will look in the SPM..
[06:12] <harveyneon> ***WHEN IN DOUBT, REBOOT***
[06:12] <harveyneon> ***WHEN IN DOUBT, REBOOT***
[06:12] <harveyneon> ***WHEN IN DOUBT, REBOOT***
[06:12] <harveyneon> lol
[06:12] <slavik`lap> harveyneon: this isn't##windows
[06:12] <phun81> lol
[06:12] <macogw> PwcrLinux: it currently isnt all that usable, but the one in gutsy should be capable of handling youtube.  you could also install the new version on feisty if you know how to compile and are up for it
[06:12] <FruitLoop> harveyneon: are you feeling ok there?
[06:12] <slavik`lap> and don't spam
[06:12] <Pelo> !ops | harveyneon
[06:12] <parkbench> slavik: ahh i see. hm so if i dont have a mini pci slot, is there any recourse? im looking for a network card that will work out of the box, that i dont have to ndiswrapper and stuff
[06:12] <ubotu> harveyneon: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:12] <patrick__> can I c s diff distros on 2 diffnt hd's?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> *munchmunch*
[06:13] <stdin> !opsnack | tonyyarusso
[06:13] <FruitLoop> does anyone else here know how to make mics work?
[06:13] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[06:13] <Pelo> ROFL
[06:13] <DShepherd> hehe
[06:13] <Pelo> i didn'T know about that one
[06:13] <slavik`lap> parkbench: ralink is supposed to have decent drivers ... also make sure the lappy bios is not locked (ask tech support many times) likemy crapaq v2000z
[06:14] <PwcrLinux> macogw: I not on the feisty, still on the breezy badger version
[06:14] <macogw> PwcrLinux: O_O upgrade!
[06:14] <PwcrLinux> SPM does not have a gnash darn it
[06:14] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, you can try google and get the source
[06:14] <FruitLoop> hello? should I reboot as harvey suggested or is someone esel going to help me with my mic problem?
[06:14] <w30> How do I get gnome window manager to work in VNC? All I caget is a blank screen with a X for a mouse pointer.
[06:14] <Pelo> macogw, we covered that bit already
[06:14] <PwcrLinux> let me checking now
[06:14] <cirrus_> Patrick: you can mix many different OS on different partitions and boot from grub... some assembly required.  Good for testing unstable version of ubuntu etc.
[06:14] <macogw> PwcrLinux: youre not getting secruity updates if it's that old, and because the security stuff is gone, well, thats part of what caused those ubuntu servers to go down last week
[06:15] <Fezzler> Is there something I can run at Terminal to see if someone else is tapped into my wireless?  ifconfig?
[06:15] <Punkunity> johnjohn, thanks for the help man, itll be about an hour or less to see if the avidemux works
[06:15] <slavik`lap> Fezzler: no
[06:15] <FruitLoop> anyone?
[06:15] <Punkunity> avidemux has a psp option and one psp part says (broken) next to it
[06:15] <m0u5e> so after we enable hyperthreading (ht=on) and sudo update-grub, we just reboot and we should have ht enabled?
[06:15] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: is the sound recording software set to proper source?
[06:15] <PwcrLinux> macogw: yea, I rather wait till my HD goes dies then get new HD and install new higher version of Ubuntu..
[06:15] <Pelo> Fezzler,  why don't you just secure your router and be done with it ? or are yo looking to hve a fight with your neigbours
[06:15] <johnjohn> punkunity: ok well i will be here
[06:15] <macogw> m0u5e: yep
[06:15] <genefitz> Punkunity: what wireless router are you using?
[06:15] <therealnanotube> FruitLoop: my knowledge goes as far as "plug it in and go" :)
[06:16] <therealnanotube> does anyone have a 64bit ubuntu install handy? what's your output of "uname -m" ?
[06:16] <johnjohn> how can i do a priate chat to someone in this room?
[06:16] <macogw> PwcrLinux: well, make sure you have no -server anything running
[06:16] <Punkunity> genefitz, why ??
[06:16] <patrick__> cirrus, thanx now can I see both distros in either by mounting hd?
[06:16] <macogw> johnjohn: what clienta re you  using?
[06:16] <m0u5e> macogw: awesome thgx :)
[06:16] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: I don't know. What should the proper source be?
[06:16] <slavik`lap> macogw: no
[06:16] <johnjohn> xchat
[06:16] <Punkunity> genefitz, i dont even have a wirelss router
[06:16] <Pelo> Punkunity, chck in the avidemux website to see if they ahve a fix out
[06:16] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: alsa
[06:16] <PwcrLinux> macogw: yea, not worry about it, it's not getting updates after they stopped supports
[06:16] <slavik`lap> johnjohn: why do you need to message someone?
[06:16] <Fezzler> Pelo:  I'm new to wireless and the learning curve is steep.  I believe it is secure but when I came home from work the lights were flickering.
[06:16] <Punkunity> ok pelo ty good idea duh
[06:16] <macogw> slavik`lap: no what?
[06:16] <genefitz> sorry Punkunity, I thought you were asking how one can tell if someone it tapped into their wireless..
[06:16] <macogw> johnjohn: click their name, i think
[06:17] <genefitz> I must have cought the wrong name..
[06:17] <slavik`lap> macogw: nevermind...
[06:17] <johnjohn> slavik'lap: to give someone my email addy and thnks macogw will try that
[06:17] <w30> therealnanotube, It's x86_64 if I remember right
[06:17] <slavik`lap> Fezzler: I told you how to check. scroll up
[06:17] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: alsa is not an option in sound recorder.
[06:17] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: install audacity :)
[06:18] <macogw> slavik`lap: the updates thing?  they said the servers were missing security updates due to incompatibility with some hardware on newer drivers but that there were other problems like ssh and ftp
[06:18] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: I have. that won't work either.
[06:18] <slavik`lap> johnjohn: /msg name messgae
[06:18] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: did you mess with settings in audacity?
[06:18] <macogw> johnjohn: if you're not registered on the server, they wont get the message, by the way
[06:18] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: yes.
[06:18] <johnjohn> slavik'lap thanks
[06:18] <zerokill88> johnjohn macogw is correct
[06:18] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: for the recording source ... and nothing?>
[06:18] <johnjohn> macogw: and zerokill88: thanks
[06:19] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: no. I just get an error.
[06:19] <slavik`lap> hmm, something is weird IMO
[06:19] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: which web site for the gnash, I gets all of the gnash sites..
[06:19] <patrick__>  cirrus, thanx now can I see both distros in either by mounting hd?
[06:19] <therealnanotube> w30: thanks... i wanted exact confirmation, but i guess that'll have to do. :)
[06:19] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, hold on
[06:19] <Fezzler> Slav: "see if there are too many dhcp clients in your router config stuff"  meaning "stuff" on Ubuntu or router config files?
[06:20] <saintberry> yo...
[06:20] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: okay im holding :)
[06:20] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[06:20] <johnjohn> well nite room
[06:20] <saintberry> can anyone help a linux nerd get a PCMCIA wireless card working? i didnt have the thing in during install...
[06:20] <slavik`lap> Fezzler: i SAID ROUTER, DIDN'T i?
[06:20] <saintberry> nerd should be n00b
[06:20] <slavik`lap> oops, sorry for caps
[06:21] <slavik`lap> didn't realise mycapslock was on
[06:21] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: so.. what now?
[06:21] <genefitz> saintberry: which model of card?
[06:21] <Pelo> Fezzler, he means go in the router confugreation screen using firefox and see how many computers are connected to it ,  check your router's manual to see where you can check
[06:21] <winblows> why does my fstab have UUID=XXX for the device instead of the path to the the partition its on?
[06:21] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: are there more clients than computers you have that use wifi?
[06:21] <Fezzler> slav: Hey, I said I was new to wireless.  How do I know that Ubuntu doesn't also have a config file for my router "stuff"
[06:21] <Fezzler> slav: sorry dud
[06:21] <saintberry> genefitz: netgear WAG511 v2
[06:21] <w30> therealnanotube, I got a 32 bit going at the moment, sorry
[06:22] <saintberry> i hear it "should just work"
[06:22] <therealnanotube> w30: thanks anyway :)
[06:22] <macogw> winblows: because ubuntu is silly
[06:22] <Pelo> winblows,  uuid is a way to id the partitons regardless of the boot order ofthe hdd
[06:22] <Fezzler> Pelo:  Thanks.  Plain english.  Very clear.
[06:22] <slavik`lap> Fezzler: and my system knows the config for someweird router in russia ...
[06:22] <Pelo> Fezzler,  I try
[06:22] <stdin> !uuid | winblows
[06:22] <ubotu> winblows: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:22] <FruitLoop> slavik`lap: what? are you talking to the wrong person?
[06:22] <genefitz> saintberry, let me look real quick..
[06:22] <slavik`lap> FruitLoop: yes I was, sorry
[06:23] <saintberry> genefitz: cheers
[06:23] <macogw> Pelo: every other distro uses nodes.  the only thing i can think of where the UUID thing made sense was when libata switched to all sd* instead of IDEs being hd* and then the fstab wasnt wrong for IDE users
[06:23] <patrick__>  can I see both distros in either by mounting hd?
[06:23] <FruitLoop> Who here knows how to make mics record?
[06:25] <Pelo> macogw,  I was just giving a quck answer
[06:25] <boris55> I have a question about an ubuntu install. My friend says his install freezes when setting up graphcis.  What do I need to look at?  or can graphical be setup later.? Ubuntu 7.04
[06:25] <macogw> Pelo: so was i :)
[06:25] <macogw> Pelo: "ubuntu is silly"
[06:25] <macogw> Pelo: it does a lot of weird stuff
[06:25] <sSiroSoriSs> ubuntu!
[06:25] <sSiroSoriSs> ?
[06:26] <FruitLoop> Do you want fries with that?
[06:26] <Pelo> FruitLoop, in the terminal , type alsamixer  select capture at the top and make sure all he sliders are up and not muted
[06:26] <FruitLoop> Pelo:  ok
[06:26] <spoonie> hi all
[06:26] <PwcrLinux> pelo: which file should I get it, they have 3 files on the FTP-HTTP server
[06:27] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, link me
[06:27] <w30> How do I get gnome window manager to work in VNC? All I can get is a blank screen with a X for a mouse pointer.  What do I need in the xstartup file?
[06:27] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: blocked me
[06:27] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, I block everybody,  put the link inthe channl
[06:28] <PwcrLinux> pelo: http://www.gnashdev.org/dev_snapshots/
[06:28] <FruitLoop> Pelo: I don't even have capture show up... I think it is just showing me playback - how do I see the input?
[06:28] <FruitLoop> pelo: don't worry I found it
[06:29] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, get the first one
[06:29] <PwcrLinux> pelo: the tgz?
[06:29] <Pelo> ...
[06:29] <Punkunity> hye can i use any other OS's with ubuntu???
[06:30] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, yes the tgz one
[06:30] <Punkunity> like do i have to dual boot or can i kinda dual boot and just sudo apt-get another os
[06:30] <macogw> Punkunity: oh...that....no
[06:30] <EvanR> Punkunity; vmware
[06:30] <macogw> Punkunity: you can run a virtual machine in virtual box
[06:30] <Journeyman> why hasn't pidgin been added to the repository?
[06:30] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: okay, can I download to the desktop or in the hard drive?
[06:30] <Punkunity> what is vmware
[06:30] <macogw> Journeyman: because updates are for security only
[06:30] <winblows> where is menu.lst? is this a grub file?
[06:30] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, to the desktop
[06:30] <macogw> winblows: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:30] <PwcrLinux> pelo: okay
[06:31] <macogw> Journeyman: security and bug fixes, but not for adding features.  with features comes instability
[06:31] <nugod> Punkunity: that would be pretty impressive... apt-get install solaris-10
[06:31] <Journeyman> I am not asking for an update
[06:31] <Pelo> !vmware | Punkunity
[06:31] <ubotu> Punkunity: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:31] <maxagaz> what is best text editor I can use to write scripts ?
[06:31] <Punkunity> lol nugod
[06:31] <FruitLoop> Pelo: ok now what? I still get nothing ;(
[06:31] <PwcrLinux> pelo: downloaded to the desktop done
[06:31] <Journeyman> but why isn't it in the backports or whatever
[06:31] <krillin> which virtualization tool would you all recommend for the average desktop user who wants to play with a bunch of other operating systems without rebooting? vmware? virtualbox? qemu? kvm (i don't even really know much about kvm)?
[06:31] <krillin> !virtualizers
[06:31] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:31] <Punkunity> nugod im talkin more like a mac spoof like darwin, or something exotic of linux
[06:32] <macogw> Journeyman: because nobody's bothered.  backports are rare.  you can get pdigin 2.1 from getdeb.net or from debuntu.org
[06:32] <xike> anyone have any luck getting xgl to work on an ati x1600?
[06:32] <Pelo> FruitLoop, check in the forum , I donT' have a mic myself so I've never had t trouble shoot one
[06:32] <Fezzler> Pelo:  Thanks.  Just saw PM
[06:32] <krillin> !VirtualBox
[06:32] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[06:32] <Punkunity> wtf was that
[06:32] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, have you ever compiled from source ?
[06:32] <krillin> !VMWare
[06:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:32] <PwcrLinux> Pelo: not yet
[06:32] <Journeyman> is there an automated way to upgrade programs?
[06:32] <krillin> !QEmu
[06:32] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:32] <krillin> wow, which one to pick?
[06:33] <Pelo> PwcrLinux, ok join me in #pelo so we can have a lttle private tutorial
[06:33] <PwcrLinux> okay
[06:33] <vic1ous> anyone know why steam downloads slow?
[06:33] <patrick__> Can I run Ubuntu server as vmware?
[06:33] <genefitz> saintberry, have you tried ndiswrapper? Looking at some notes it says that both the china and taiwan versions work in breezy, dapper and edgy with ndiswrapper
[06:33] <Punkunity> krillin and everyone thanks i htink this is what im looking for
[06:34] <telexicon> Why wont mount -t cifs ask me for a password when i specify -o username=foo ? Normally it does, but for some reason it simply will not ask for a password (i refuse to type it on the command line or put it in files)... anyways.. i cant mount any windows file shares because of it
[06:34] <saintberry> genefitz: nah i haven't dont really know what im doing - do i just run the command. ill do some google searching for ndiswraper
[06:34] <krillin> Punkunity: huh?
[06:35] <genefitz> saintberry, ndiswrapper should get you up and going with the windows driver
[06:35] <Punkunity> nm
[06:35] <saintberry> genefitz: ahh ok - is that the best option?
[06:35] <krillin> which virtualization tool would you all recommend for the average desktop user who wants to play with a bunch of other operating systems without rebooting? vmware? virtualbox? qemu? kvm (i don't even really know much about kvm)?
[06:35] <floppyears> hi, I created an xfs partition and it's mounted by ubuntu during boot process
[06:35] <floppyears> but I can't write to it
[06:35] <genefitz> !nsidwrapper
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nsidwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <saintberry> genefitz: just checked, seems easy though. thanks
[06:35] <floppyears> how can I make it so that when it mounts I can write to it by default ?
[06:36] <zerokill88> ubuntu sucks windows rulez
[06:36] <zerokill88> :P
[06:36] <vic1ous> anyone know why steam downloads slow?
[06:36] <patrick__> What to run Ubuntu lamp w/ dapper? possible
[06:36] <zerokill88> steam sucks
[06:36] <Daftykins> steam is good
[06:36] <genefitz> saintberry: here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:36] <saintberry> genefitz: cheers
[06:37] <telexicon> vic1ous: because it doesnt run on linux
[06:37] <vic1ous> well i'm running it in cedega
[06:37] <vic1ous> it runs great
[06:37] <vic1ous> but games download slow
[06:37] <telexicon> so it doesnt run great...
[06:37] <Punkunity> after the first part these instructions seem difficult hereanyone ever doen this b4???
[06:37] <Punkunity> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:38] <vic1ous> well cssource runs great
[06:38] <krillin> which virtualization tool would you all recommend for the average desktop user who wants to play with a bunch of other operating systems without rebooting? vmware? virtualbox? qemu? kvm (i don't even really know much about kvm)?
[06:38] <hph> hey can anyone give ma a hand with getting ubuntu up and running? just whisper me
[06:38] <vic1ous> but it just took a long time to download it =p
[06:38] <Punkunity> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:38] <HugLeo> I use Virtual Box to emulate Windows XP
[06:38] <Punkunity> qemu looks pretty cool krillin but these instructions after the 2nd part get difficult
[06:38] <Punkunity> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:39] <demonspork> What options do I an to an fstab line to give a specific user full read/write privileges?
[06:39] <krillin> HugLeo: why virtual box over qemu? and is kvm a usable tool, or is it just a kernel thing that programs can access?
[06:40] <hph> Hey when i try to live boot ubuntu, i get to the part with the logo and the little loading bar, then it gets past that point, the screen goes black, and then nothing happens. I let my computer sit at that screen for about an hour and nothing ever happened. anyone help?
[06:40] <Shaddox> Hello everyone. How do I get the sensors and CPU graphs and all that on my Gnome-panel?
[06:40] <krillin> HugLeo: for that matter, why virtual box over any of the others? VMWare, etc?
[06:40] <GNine> i can finally connect to my workgroup (network). however, it is also listing those same network puters outside of the workgroup. is that necessary?
[06:40] <genefitz> hph: you thik it may have been a bad burn?
[06:40] <winblows> in my menu.lst where it says root, what should be there? i see an example with (hd0,0) but all my devices are sda or sdb with partions on those... how should my entry look like?
[06:40] <hph> 3rd burn
[06:40] <hph> :|
[06:40] <zerokill88> shaddox what do you mean by sensors?
[06:40] <HugLeo> krillin: stable enough to me
[06:40] <hph> ive used different types of discs too
[06:41] <genefitz> hph: what architecture are you running?
[06:41] <hph> 64 bit. im trying to run the 64 bit version
[06:41] <Punkunity> hph the disk might be burnt bad it happened to me a few times
[06:41] <krillin> HugLeo: how does it compare to the others? in your opinion?
[06:41] <hph> this also happened with a shipped CD of ubuntu
[06:41] <Punkunity> do the whole checksum thing
[06:41] <Punkunity> o
[06:41] <genefitz> hph: I know this is going to seem like a dumb question, but I have to ask, Are you running AMD 64, 64 x2, or EM64T?
[06:41] <hph> amd 64
[06:42] <fopascual> hello
[06:42] <genefitz> hph, have you tried loading the 32 bit version?
[06:42] <hph> yah
[06:42] <HugLeo> krillin: To me is better than Qemu but I'm not testing VMWare
[06:42] <hph> the disc i got in the mail was 32 bit
[06:42] <genefitz> same problem?
[06:42] <hph> didnt work
[06:42] <hph> yah
[06:42] <hph> same problem.
[06:42] <hph> then i burned the 64 bit and the 32 bit and same problem
[06:42] <genefitz> Hmmm, It may be a computer issue, tell me about your computer, Got the specs?
[06:42] <hph> one sec
[06:43] <hph> whats the quickest way to get that all together?
[06:44] <GNine> i havent been able to successfully burn an iso copy of ubuntu either.. at least u (hph) get a boot screen .. my burns show nothing but an empty disc
[06:44] <genefitz> hph, just the basics, computer type, processor, ram, hdd, etc..
[06:44] <hph> want my dxdiag file?
[06:44] <krillin> HugLeo: this is nuts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox . what's something easier that doesn't mess up my system with extra crap as much? qemu looked pretty disasterous as well
[06:44] <genefitz> HPH, that should't be needed.
[06:44] <hph> Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.2GHz
[06:44] <hph>              Memory: 2048MB RAM
[06:44] <hph>           Page File: 363MB used, 3576MB available
[06:45] <hph> ---------------
[06:45] <hph> Display Devices
[06:45] <hph> ---------------
[06:45] <hph>         Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
[06:45] <hph>      Manufacturer: NVIDIA
[06:45] <hph>         Chip type: GeForce 7600 GS
[06:45] <hph>          DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
[06:45] <hph>        Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0392&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
[06:45] <hph>    Display Memory: 256.0 MB
[06:45] <hph>      Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
[06:45] <hph> -------------
[06:45] <hph> Sound Devices
[06:45] <hph> -------------
[06:45] <hph>             Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [AC00]
[06:45] <genefitz> hph: that is odd, I am not sure. Have you tried any other versions or distros?
[06:45] <GNine> !pastebin | hph
[06:45] <ubotu> hph: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:45] <hph> yah
[06:45] <genefitz> What all have you tried?
[06:45] <hph> i tried linspire
[06:45] <hph> same problem
[06:45] <hph> right before it boots
[06:46] <hph> screen goes black
[06:46] <beg1689> rejoice, ubuntu has aided in converting yet another friend to linux
[06:46] <hph> not me yet :\
[06:46] <GNine> lol
[06:47] <Shaddox> How can I get the sensors like this on my Gnome-panel? http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6132/schermafdruk2mh5.png
[06:47] <hph> ive been going through this problem for about 4 months now. I've tried every now and then. nothing works though
[06:47] <beg1689> what seems to be the issue?
[06:47] <GNine> almost done converting 3gigs of music to ogg
[06:47] <HugLeo> krillin: Windows XP  quickly in my system both qemu and virtual box
[06:47] <andre_pl> hph, is that a laptop? what brand/model?
[06:47] <genefitz> hph, it seems to be a ubuntu issue with your computer. I had thje same problems. First getting it loaded and then keeping it right (especially with 1440 x 900 resolution)
[06:47] <hph> self built
[06:48] <beg1689> GNine, does that make them lose quality? if you go from mp3 to pgg?
[06:48] <hph> so what do you suggest I do?
[06:48] <beg1689> ogg*
[06:48] <hph> also, I've run a disc I've burned on a different computer
[06:48] <genefitz> If I may be so bold as to say maybe the distro is just not agreeing with something in your computer, maybe the mobo settings.
[06:48] <hph> so it has to be my pc
[06:48] <hph> what should i change?
[06:48] <beg1689> i mean, when i rip cds i always do ogg, but i didnt bother converting my mp3s
[06:48] <GNine> not anything a human ear could detect as quality loss
[06:48] <genefitz> You may want to look at something like Fedora or OpenSuse
[06:48] <hph> whats the difference?
[06:49] <beg1689> ubuntu loves my laptop
[06:49] <hph> i'm looking for a beginner level linex distro. ive been on windows my whole life
[06:49] <EvanR> GNine; converting from mp3 to ogg may introduce noticable loss
[06:49] <GNine> whatever
[06:49] <Punkunity> whats the main different uses or preferences between somehting like fedoraVs ubuntu or ubuntu vs openBSD??
[06:49] <andre_pl> I've got a 7600 GO in my laptop at 1440x900 and every ubuntu since dapper has had no problems.
[06:49] <EvanR> GNine; then again, i can never tell anyway
[06:49] <popt> how to add a exit user to a exit group from the command line
[06:49] <beg1689> hph: ubuntu should be fine, seems you just got that 0.1% of hardware that doesnt like it
[06:49] <hph> well maybe its sli?
[06:49] <demonspork> What options do I add to an fstab line to give a specific user full read/write privileges to the partition?
[06:49] <GNine> maybe u need to upgrade ur sound drivers or sumthing
[06:49] <Punkunity> or ubuntu vs, opensuse, or vs darwin
[06:49] <hph> i have 2 vite cards.
[06:49] <hph> video*
[06:49] <hph> possible SLI issue?
[06:49] <genefitz> hph: linux is linux, the difference is primarily in the way programs are loaded.. I had to use Fedora, But I like Ubuntu as well. I just can't run it on my system.
[06:50] <beg1689> have you tried removing SLI?
[06:50] <beg1689> i dont think that would be an issue
[06:50] <winblows> after i edit grub's menu.lst do i need to do anything to make it know my changes or could i just reboot?
[06:50] <Shaddox> Punkunity: Darwin is the UNIX core of the Macintosh OS X. Not an official Linux distro, but a Macintosh one.
[06:50] <beg1689> but you could always check
[06:50] <genefitz> hph, that may be.. hold on, and let me look..
[06:50] <hph> not yet, but it doesnt seem like its something that would make a difference
[06:50] <Punkunity> i thought so shaddox but u see where i was getting
[06:50] <beg1689> it doesnt, the newest drivers should have no issues
[06:50] <Arafangion> Punkunity, hph The different distros differ in the way they automate hardware detection and useage, how they manage applications and settings, and of course, they are maintained by different people.
[06:50] <krammer> why does it take so long to enter a forum for yahoo???
[06:50] <hph> :|
[06:50] <beg1689> Shaddox: rephrase your question you asked earlier?
[06:51] <Punkunity> well which is the best at utilizing video games and video multimedia stuff
[06:51] <Arafangion> krammer: Ask Yahoo!.
[06:51] <hph> the problem is, i can't even get to the point where i can download and install drivers
[06:51] <krammer> lol
[06:51] <Shaddox> beg1689: I see these sensors in a screenshot of Ubuntu Feisty, how do I get these sensors on my own panel? I could really use them. Screenshot: http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6132/schermafdruk2mh5.png
[06:51] <arooni> hello my special friends
[06:51] <beg1689> Shaddox: nvm, i see what you mean, those are panel applets
[06:51] <Shaddox> beg1689: Where do I get them?
[06:51] <Punkunity> i mean i use ubuntu feisty right now because while trying to dual boot from xp to ubuntu i somehow anihilated windows alltogether and im left with fesity
[06:52] <beg1689> Shaddox: im not running gnome atm i dont remember exactly what to press to add them to your bar, perhaps someone here can shed some lite?
[06:52] <beg1689> Shaddox: i think its quite simple
[06:52] <Shaddox> Where can I get Gnome Panel applets?
[06:52] <hph> anyone have any suggestions? or should i just try fedora
[06:52] <krammer> Free you rMind
[06:52] <genefitz> hph, I am searching the wikis, and I am not seeing anything..
[06:52] <arooni> i recently installed 7.04 on a thinkpad t61.  i had to use the alternate cd install because the graphics were messed up.  i got output, b ut its this wierd interlaced thing and I can't make out anything! ;(.  it has an intel x3100 (965) chipset integrated video card.... any suggestions on how to get the video working?
[06:52] <beg1689> Shaddox: do you already know how to add them to your panel?
[06:52] <FruitLoop> Pelo: I found I can get Audacity to record from the mic if I set the recording source device to OSS/dev/dsp1 instead of one of the alsa things. I still can't get sound recorder to work though.
[06:52] <Arafangion> arooni: At what resolution?
[06:52] <bulmer> does anyone know how to get a second ip address for an interface?..for example eth0:0 (an alias) needs an ip addres
[06:53] <Arafangion> arooni: And do you care about 3D acceleration?
[06:53] <Pelo> FruitLoop, congradulations on your initiative, I wish they were all lke you
[06:53] <ari_stress> bulmer: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[06:53] <arooni> Arafangion: resolution of lcd is 1440x900 ... and yes i would prefer 3d accelaration... but right now is my focus on seeing something i can use
[06:53] <Shaddox> beg1689: I know how to add applets, just not where to find new ones I don't have.
[06:53] <krammer> you can't bulmer
[06:53] <beg1689> ok
[06:53] <beg1689> Shaddox: open up synaptic, and search for "applet"
[06:53] <bulmer> ari_stress: thats setting it as static..i need a dhcp assigned
[06:53] <pvl> fruitloop which way did you change it
[06:53] <beg1689> Shaddox: just look for the ones that say GNOME in the description
[06:53] <Arafangion> arooni: I was goign to suggest just trying vesa, but that's going to be very suboptimal when your native reso is higher than 1024x768.
[06:53] <genefitz> Pelo: lol, it happens
[06:54] <GNine> ubuntu 7.04 detected my integrated (outdated) intel graphicshit  by default.. my struggle was to learn how to tell linux not to look at it
[06:54] <Pelo> genefitz, not like this one
[06:54] <bulmer> krammer the alias interface is relegated to static ip address assignment only?
[06:54] <ari_stress> bulmer: i believe dhcp cannot offer 2nd ip addr
[06:54] <beg1689> Shaddox: try installing gnome-applets if you havent already
[06:54] <krammer> yes
[06:54] <YoDaddeh> I am trying to install ubuntu on my spare pc but the live cd part is not booting. It has given me a gnome error once and the other times it just hangs
[06:54] <FruitLoop> pvl: I changed recording device in Audacity to OSS/dev/dsp1 and the mic started working....
[06:54] <arooni> Arafangion: well its a start.... so you're saying edit the xorg.conf file?  and choose vesa + 1024x768?  doesn't it support a higher res?
[06:54] <hph> what's the difference between fedora rawhide, fedora 7, and fedora 8?
[06:54] <bulmer> okay thanks..
[06:55] <pvl> fruitloop ok ty i will try it. i have a huge problem with my microphone recording
[06:55] <Arafangion> arooni: Well, vesa's practically one of the original, and very slow graphics modes, all cards work with it.
[06:55] <genefitz> Pelo: I always use the excuse "I am just a nub myself, I just have a good wiki-search ethic"
[06:55] <YoDaddeh> I am trying to install ubuntu on my spare pc but the live cd part is not booting. It has given me a gnome error once and the other times it just hangs
[06:55] <ari_stress> hph: very funny. go ask in #fedora
[06:55] <hph> ?
[06:55] <hph> im serious...
[06:55] <hph> :(
[06:55] <krammer> yodaddeh what is the error message
[06:55] <hph> i just asked a question and was told to try fedora instead
[06:55] <bulmer> YoDaddeh: get the alternative cd
[06:55] <Arafangion> hph: There's no way we would know.  Why don't you ask MS what's the difference between Mac OS 9, Mac OS X, and Mac OS 10.2
[06:56] <GNine> dhcp is automatic which is good if u dont have much experience networking.. ur router (if you have one) should tell dhcp everything
[06:56] <genefitz> hph: fedora 8 is not stable yet, rawhide is a live CD and fedora 7 is the current stable release
[06:56] <FruitLoop> i don't know why alsa recording doesn't work for my mic.. i guess it just hates me.
[06:56] <YoDaddeh> I've also noticed its been running rather sluggish. I just bought a new processor for it because I broke the old one. Any ideas on this?
[06:56] <arooni> anyone know how to jump into text login/startup?  when i do control+alt+f1... i jsut get a blank screen that's dark
[06:56] <Arafangion> YoDaddeh: How'd you manage to break the old one?
[06:56] <Pelo> YoDaddeh,  what video card ? ati and nvidia donT' make FOSS drivers so they are not part of the live cd , you might hve to use the alternate install cd which is text based and install the drivers afterwarrd
[06:56] <Arafangion> Pelo: An intel integrated one.
[06:57] <YoDaddeh> no video card Pelo, onboard graphics
[06:57] <YoDaddeh> Arafangion: I broke the pin because it quit working (on accident)
[06:57] <Pelo> Arafangion, sorry, it,s getting late, and I lose track easily
[06:57] <Arafangion> YoDaddeh: And how'd you manage that?
[06:57] <Arafangion> Pelo: It was a while ago.
[06:57] <Pelo> ic
[06:57] <YoDaddeh> Arafangion: the computer didn't post
[06:58] <Arafangion> Pelo: Still, why doesn't the default installer allow those cards?  (Not even with the free nv driver)
[06:58] <YoDaddeh> Arafangion: I thought it was the processor so I took it off and one of the pins was bent so I went to bend it back and it broke off
[06:58] <krammer> did u configure ur bios yaoddeh?
[06:58] <miked595> sup channel
[06:58] <GNine> u guys talk like you have to do everything manually..  ubuntu installation didnt seem to be so difficult to me
[06:58] <Arafangion> YoDaddeh: And what made you think it was the processor?
[06:58] <YoDaddeh> krammer: Yeah pretty much so: I think it might not be configured right
[06:59] <Arafangion> GNine: Some of us are used to the old way of doing things.
[06:59] <Pelo> Arafangion, the free nv driver is not FOSS , ie open source as I recall , it is still restricted, and ubuntu is suppose to be FOSS all the way
[06:59] <GNine> if u still got windows running .. use Wubi to install ubuntu
[06:59] <YoDaddeh> Arafangion: Dunno It just wouldn't post and I was anxious to get it working again
[06:59] <miked595> any one know how to get ldap workin with postfix?
[06:59] <krammer> try to config cd first
[07:00] <beg1689> nah i love having the nice restricted drivers now
[07:00] <popt> how to add a exit user to a exit group from the command line?
[07:00] <beg1689> when i first installed 7.04, booted up the livecd and had intel wifi and nvidia 3d working, so sweet
[07:00] <NETWizz> I have Ldap Working at Work
[07:00] <miked595> NETWizz: you got it workin wit postfix?
[07:00] <NETWizz> However, we use Novell SLED 10.2 Desktops
[07:00] <popt> groupadd username ? groupname?
[07:00] <genefitz> Arafangion, due to legal issues, ubuntu can not pre-install any proprietary software, it is kind of the "we can make it available, but can not be held liable for any royaly fees or any of that, but if you really want it, you can get it... here"
[07:00] <miked595> NETWizz: doh
[07:01] <Arafangion> genefitz: Seems free enough for Debian.
[07:01] <NETWizz> All we can do is login and use it for authentication
[07:01] <genefitz> The same goes for MP3, Flash, etc..
[07:01] <NETWizz> i.e. I type my name and password
[07:01] <beg1689> :O
[07:01] <miked595> NETWizz:  all you need it to do right... ehe
[07:01] <beg1689> =-O
[07:01] <NETWizz> Yes, that is all I need it to do
[07:01] <beg1689> meh. use both
[07:01] <NETWizz> It works with eDirectory
[07:02] <Arafangion> {alicia}: Depends.  If your windows setup is working perfectly for you, then go ahead and keep using it. Don't fix what ain't broken. Otherwise... Use Ubuntu. :)
[07:02] <NETWizz> I tried pushing Ubuntu, but the bosses like SLED
[07:02] <{alicia}> what is so great about ubuntu anyway
[07:02] <genefitz> Arafangion, I don't know about Debian, I know Mepis has the option to "opt-in" but I think they have a deal or something for 3-D KDE
[07:02] <beg1689> i have ubuntu and XP which im sure quite a few people do (though i havent booted XP in 3 months, hope it still works ;)
[07:02] <NETWizz> If it doesn't come in a box by Novell or Microsoft...
[07:02] <Arafangion> genefitz: The nv drivers do not handle 3D.
[07:03] <inquirer> looking to get postfix working on ubuntu (or any debian based distro for that matter) - hangup is that postfix seems to require 'mailacceptinggeneralid' defined in a schema. i think the problem is using the newer version 3 ldap
[07:03] <miked595> no LDAP pros in this channel?
[07:03] <genefitz> Arafangion: correct, nv and Vesa don't do 3-d. you have to install the proprietary drivers for that option
[07:03] <Arafangion> genefitz: Back to my original question...
[07:03] <Arafangion> Pelo: Still, why doesn't the default installer allow those cards?    (Not even with the free nv driver)
[07:04] <Pelo> Arafangion, call Mark and ask him
[07:04] <Arafangion> Pelo: He's too cool to listen to me. :)
[07:04] <genefitz> Arafangion, that would be more of a question for the Ubuntu folks. I'm sorry, I don't have the answer.
[07:05] <demonspork> Bend over and crack a smile :)
[07:05] <genefitz> the only reason I can give is that there are legal issues involved in proprietary software and drivers.. The standard linux answer..
[07:05] <GNine> most problems with installing ubuntu come from video pci addresses vs integrated chips detection; x desktop not configured properly for the right card; and finally, incorrect monitor settings chosen
[07:05] <GNine> or somthing like that
[07:05] <Arafangion> genefitz: But the nv driver is NOT proprietary. I think it's even part of xorg.
[07:06] <FuLio> what program can  i use to download music on ubuntu?
[07:06] <Arafangion> genefitz: The NVidia driver, sure, but I'm not talking about the NVidia driver, but the nv driver.
[07:06] <genefitz> Arafangion, every time I loaded any distro, it loaded with either Vesa or nv
[07:06] <c4ndY_61rL> hi
[07:06] <GNine> and u have to ENABLE whatever drivers u tell linux to use
[07:07] <GNine> all in a days work
[07:07] <genefitz> In Ubuntu, I had to tell it to install the Nvidia drivers, or just leave it with the nv driver
[07:07] <GFree> hey guys, I've got a spot of bother here...
[07:07] <Arafangion> genefitz: So it does allow you to use that card, you don't need to use the alternative CD?
[07:08] <genefitz> But again, that would be a question for the Ubuntu folks.. I didn't design it, I just use it :-)
[07:08] <GFree> when I'm running Compiz Fusion, a couple of programs don't render window decorations, while most others do. what's up with that?
[07:08] <GNine> excuse me.. but i used nv ... which is short for nvidia?  lol.. maybe i just hacked my way with it
[07:08] <genefitz> Arafangion, nope, I use the standard graphical live CD to install
[07:08] <GFree> emerald's running, it's just a few specifc progs
[07:08] <FuLio> Hi, can someone help me, im having a Fail to start the x server.
[07:08] <Pelo> g'night folks
[07:09] <buntunub> will beryl/compiz run with the nv driver?
[07:09] <Arafangion> GNine: There are two drivers, one is free, but doesn't have 3D acceleration. The other is proprietary and is barely legal, and can't be included in a default distro.
[07:09] <GNine> roger that
[07:09] <Arafangion> buntunub: Pittifully slowly, sure.
[07:09] <FuLio> Hi, can someone help me, im having a Fail to start the x server.
[07:09] <genefitz> Arafangion, I am not the best example though, I mean, no matter what, I have to re-configure my xorg after install, because of my monitor (Acer AL1916W) 1440 x 900
[07:09] <buntunub> nvidia provides drivers for linux but the firmware is closed i believe
[07:10] <buntunub> many distros preload them for users
[07:10] <buntunub> pclos, sabayon, mepis, etc etc etc
[07:10] <genefitz> buntunub, some do..
[07:10] <buntunub> many do and more each release
[07:11] <GNine> during the install (or during config of XORG thru sudo command) u can choose what resolutions u want to have available.. me, i know my monitor real good
[07:11] <FuLio> When i read the error it says "The interrupt for NVIDIA graphics device pci0 5 0 appeears to be edge triggered/ please see chapter 8 common problems.
[07:11] <genefitz> I don't mind loading the drivers for my video card though
[07:11] <FuLio>  i useed the envy to install the nvidia drivers.
[07:11] <Arafangion> buntunub: The question is how close to the line you want to be - it's not legal, but it /might/ not be illegal either.
[07:11] <Arafangion> buntunub: But it's perfectly legal for each user to download and add it themselves.
[07:12] <buntunub> well anyway ubuntu does provide loading of nvidia drivers on first install
[07:12] <GNine> thats a common problem alright... not
[07:12] <GuHhH> can anyone help me with clamav + amavis + spamassassin intregation on postfix?
[07:12] <Arafangion> GuHhH: Try the postfix website.
[07:12] <w30> How do I get gnome window manager to work in VNC? All I can get is a blank screen with a X for a mouse pointer.  What do I need in the xstartup file?
[07:12] <genefitz> Arafangion, exactly.
[07:12] <lynn> eek autoconnecting to ubuntu help chans
[07:13] <lynn> morning btw
[07:13] <genefitz> Arafangion, the whole deal is that by doing it the way they do it, they free themselves from any liability in the issues
[07:13] <Wood> hello?
[07:13] <Arafangion> genefitz: You keep seeming to utterly ignore /which/ driver I"m talking about. Makes for a very confusing convo on your end.
[07:13] <buntunub> honestly i dont see the problem with allowing people who have bought and paid for an nvidia card to load the drivers they need
[07:13] <cinTya> low
[07:13] <Arafangion> buntunub: Yeah, tell that to NVidia.
[07:13] <buntunub> seems pretty stupid to prevent them from doing so after they paid for the rights
[07:14] <genefitz> arafangion, I am not sure the stipulations on the nv driver, Ubuntu always loaded the nv driver during install for me..
[07:14] <Punkunity> hey im about to use ubuntu ultimate 1.4 VM for Vmware, and this web page says i can "upgrade" to it, is this true?? will i keeop all my files ands settings and just upgrade to that??
[07:14] <Punkunity> http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents-details.php?id=398
[07:14] <Arafangion> genefitz: And so my point was, since Ubuntu "always loaded the nv driver during install for me", you DO NOT need the "alternate cd", because the normal CD supports it just fine.
[07:14] <GNine> i got my nvidia install disc.. it dont work on linux.. but am doind alright with the current set up
[07:14] <genefitz> At least I believe it was the nv driver, I always loaded the nVidia driver shortly after install
[07:14] <Punkunity> anyone know if i can keep all my files and just update??
[07:14] <Arafangion> genefitz: Yup.
[07:15] <Punkunity> http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents-details.php?id=398
[07:15] <genefitz> Arafangion, yes.
[07:15] <pyrohotdog> I'm trying to write my rcfile for joy2key, what are the sancodes for the PageUp/down, home, end, delete keys?
[07:15] <pyrohotdog> *scancodes
[07:16] <buntunub> GNine just allow ubuntu to load your driver on first boot
[07:16] <genefitz> I have never had to use an alternate install CD for Ubuntu..
[07:16] <GNine> like is said.. i dont have a graphics issue..  but thanks for ur input
[07:16] <buntunub> you dont put a disc in or anything like that ubuntu will do it all for you
[07:16] <demonspork> What would I add to an fstab line to grant me full read/write access to the partition when it is mount
[07:17] <Arafangion> genefitz: But that's exactly what people here seem to suggest that you require, you must've also ignored the context in which the convo started, making it even more confusing for you. :)
[07:17] <foxgamer> Hi all. Could someone help me. My firefox browser has crashed and I've forgotten the command to bring up the list of PID's to kill it off.
[07:17] <genefitz> Arafangion: I am sorry, I must have missed that.
[07:17] <genefitz> My bad..
[07:17] <Arafangion> genefitz: No problem, we've all done that :)
[07:17] <krillin> foxgamer: ps ax | grep firefox
[07:18] <foxgamer> Thank you krillin
[07:18] <demonspork> foxgamer -- ps ax
[07:18] <demonspork> foxgamer, or you could go to System > Administration > System Monitor
[07:19] <w30> foxgamer, killall firefox
[07:19] <foxgamer> Thank you demonspork. I keep forgetting that. lol
[07:19] <foxgamer> Whoa! I didn't realise there were so many ways to do the same job!
[07:19] <jonathan_> somebody help me please
[07:19] <jonathan_> my partition error
[07:20] <beg1689> i just right click the close button ont he top right of the window
[07:20] <jonathan_> data partition
[07:20] <beg1689> asks me to kill it from there
[07:20] <jonathan_> help me plz
[07:20] <jonathan_> my ubuntu can't read my data partition
[07:20] <floppyears> hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia binary drivers in ubuntu feisty, and right now my machine is crashed
[07:20] <beg1689> jonathan, gonna need more details
[07:20] <floppyears> I can barely ssh into it
[07:20] <floppyears> how can I make it reboot and not start X ?
[07:20] <beg1689> floppyears
[07:21] <jonathan_> when I'm restart my ubuntu
[07:21] <numus> how do i get the harddrive to show on my desktop
[07:21] <beg1689> has it really crashed? can you press ctrl + alt+ f1 and get to a console?
[07:21] <beg1689> jonathan_ what is a "data partition"?
[07:21] <Punkunity> i wanna upgrade to ubuntu ultimate im not finding any info all that useful....do i still have to burn an iSO image most peole say no
[07:21] <jonathan_> my one of my ubuntu can't read my ntfs partition
[07:21] <Punkunity> but i cant seem to just upgrade
[07:21] <beg1689> jonathan_ there you go, much better
[07:22] <floppyears> beg1689: no, I can't do anything
[07:22] <jonathan_> ubuntu can't read my ntfs partition
[07:22] <Flannel> Punkunity: you don't want to upgrade to ubuntu ultimate.  It's not an upgrade anyway.
[07:22] <beg1689> floppyears: if im not mistaken, i thought feisty included the binary drivers for nvidia?
[07:22] <beg1689> i had 3d working right off the live cd
[07:22] <floppyears> no, it didn't for me :(
[07:23] <lynn> jonathan_, have you tried to manually mount this partition? any error messages?
[07:23] <genefitz> Punkunity, I am not sure about "upgrading" but I think you may be able to add the repos..
[07:23] <Punkunity> Flannel, why it says its an upgraded feisty and i t looks cool, but i want to keep all my settings and be able to downgrade back to fesity again
[07:23] <beg1689> did you look for a little icon in the system tray? it should say restricted driver manager
[07:23] <jonathan_> yes
[07:23] <Punkunity> http://ubuntusoftware.info/Ubuntu_Ultimate_1.4/
[07:23] <jonathan_> I got error
[07:23] <beg1689> for me it was there, but unchecked, i just clicked the checkmark and tada! 3d
[07:23] <lynn> and the error being... ?
[07:24] <jonathan_> when I'm clicked files at /media/data
[07:24] <jonathan_> I can't find any folder
[07:24] <Flannel> Punkunity: because the people who made it are making that claim.  There's no substantiated anything to make it true.  All it is is some guy who took Ubuntu, and installed some stuff from the repos by default.  There's literally nothing `upgraded` about it
[07:24] <teKnofreak> is there a way to invoke the restricted driver management from command line ?
[07:24] <lynn> can you open a console?
[07:24] <lynn> like gnome terminal or xterm?
[07:24] <jonathan_> and there is no ntfs patition icon on my desktop
[07:24] <Flannel> Punkunity: if you were going to make a linux distro, you would claim it's "the bested most awesomest" too.  That doesn't make it true.
[07:24] <jonathan_> yes
[07:25] <Punkunity> ok Flannel then i'll give up but i still dont know how to use VMWare Player thing, i cant seem to get os'
[07:25] <lynn> issue "mount" and see if /media/data is there
[07:25] <jonathan_> already opened the terminal
[07:25] <allbert> os[Linux 2.6.22-9-generic i686]  distro[Debian lenny/sid]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 798MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 44.6% free]  disk[Total : 4.64GB, 31.10% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] ]  sound[]
[07:25] <genefitz> Punkunity, I wouldn't suggest yo install Ultimate 1.4, but adding the repos may be an option
[07:25] <Punkunity> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/cat/45/rating+desc
[07:26] <lynn> any luck?
[07:26] <Punkunity> what would adding the repos do?? and how do i do that genefitz
[07:26] <jonathan_> what should I do now?
[07:26] <jonathan_> there is nothing inside data folder
[07:26] <demonspork> What would I add to an fstab line to grant me full read/write access to the partition when it is mounted?
[07:26] <rockets> Who's using regular XChat here (not xchat gnome). Anybody experience a bug where the tray icon sometimes goes into a little window/
[07:26] <rockets> ?
[07:26] <jonathan_> and computer:/// can't find any ntfs partition
[07:26] <genefitz> Punkunity, now I am not suggestion you do it, but adding the repos may give you access to the programs offered in the version http://repoubuntusoftware.info/
[07:26] <jonathan_> I'm using 3 hdd, 1 for windows xp, ubuntu, and data
[07:26] <lynn> jonathan_, when you type "mount" , is the ntfs partition listed?
[07:27] <thedash> hmm, I can't quite figure this out; I have a line that works in the terminal, but when I try to create a launcher with that command, it doesn't do anything
[07:27] <teKnofreak> rockets, for me, the xchat sometimes closes when i try to click the icon on the system tray to minimize maximize it
[07:27] <demonspork> thedash, what is the line?
[07:27] <Punkunity> genefitz, is it going to F everything up
[07:27] <rockets> teKnofreak, yeah.
[07:27] <thedash> /usr/bin/vncviewer -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[07:28] <jonathan_> http://pastebin.ca/660681
[07:28] <genefitz> Punkunity, I don't know, I have never used the distro or the repos for it..
[07:28] <Error_> how do i know if im connected to the internet?
[07:28] <genefitz> The site says no, but again, a 50/50
[07:28] <GNine> why to want linux read into an ntfs partition..  dont mind me
[07:28] <jonathan_> I check the bios and there is nothing wrong
[07:28] <teKnofreak> Error_, ping google.com in the terminal
[07:28] <sauvin> My ubuntu has just decided, when I turned on the computer, that it needs to check /dev/hda2 because it's been mounted 32 times without being checked. This is unacceptable. How to change the frequency of forced checks?
[07:28] <thedash> demonspork :: that doesn't really matter though, it works in the terminal fine
[07:28] <Error_> teKnofreak: i was being sarcastic :/
[07:29] <demonspork> thedash, what all is it supposed to do for you
[07:29] <rockets> teKnofreak, i wonder if xchat-gnome is any better
[07:29] <genefitz> Punkunity, installing anything from other repos than the distro's native are not supported and honestly not suggested
[07:29] <Error_> thx though lol
[07:29] <sauvin> xchat-gnome is a dog.
[07:29] <Punkunity> genefitz, too late hahaa
[07:29] <thedash> demonspork :: it's supposed to open the vncviewer program to that IP address, with the password in the file
[07:29] <genefitz> It is your choice of what is "worth the risk"
[07:29] <demonspork> thedash, should it initialize a vncviewer window?
[07:29] <thedash> demonspork :: yeh, basically
[07:29] <fir3dup> ei
[07:29] <GNine> unacceptable is to reboot 20 times in a row looking for a penguin
[07:29] <fir3dup> can help me
[07:30] <lynn> jonathan_, it is not mounted, try "cat /proc/partitions" and find out if it's in there
[07:30] <sauvin> Unacceptable is to mount more than (say) eight times without a check.
[07:31] <NETWizz> I am instlaling suse
[07:31] <NETWizz> OpenSUSE
[07:31] <jonathan_> http://pastebin.ca/660684
[07:31] <jonathan_> there
[07:31] <rockets> teKnofreak, hmm there are some xchat replacements like lostirc. not quit the same though
[07:31] <genefitz> NETWizz, okay..
[07:31] <krillin> NETWizz: ah, that makes #ubuntu the perfect channel to ask opensuse questions, right? </sarcasm>
[07:31] <demonspork> thedash, ok, when you go to make the launcher, the first option says "Type: Application"
[07:31] <jonathan_> check this line http://pastebin.ca/660684
[07:31] <lynn> NETWizz, yuck rpm
[07:31] <teKnofreak> rockets, try irssi :P
[07:31] <NETWizz> You didn't open your sarcasm properly
[07:31] <demonspork> thedash, simply change that to "Application in Terminal"
[07:31] <rockets> teKnofreak, no.
[07:32] <NETWizz> I don't have a question
[07:32] <thedash> demonspork :: I tried that, it opens the terminal and closes it immediately
[07:32] <NETWizz> Except, what is wrong with RPM?
[07:32] <krillin> go away troll
[07:32] <lynn> jonathan_, now it's for you to find out which one is which, since I can't know your exact partition schema
[07:32] <macd> !widescreen
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <teKnofreak> krillin, who is the troll ?
[07:32] <krillin> teKnofreak: NETWizz
[07:32] <teKnofreak> ah
[07:32] <Error_> troll boogers
[07:33] <genefitz> NETWizz: it isn't a distro war. Hey, you gotta go with what ever rings your bell, turns your crank, floats your boat ( and a couple other terms not proper)
[07:33] <macd> !ops
[07:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:33] <lynn> rpm is slow, and last time i checked it was dependency hell
[07:33] <nixternal> !offtopic
[07:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:33] <jonathan_> oh my, I don't know anything about those
[07:33] <justinb> anyone got time to help a newb?
[07:33] <NETWizz> I run Ubuntu most of the time
[07:33] <NETWizz> However, I have never cried wolf or Troll in an IRC channel
[07:33] <Award> I know in Debian some time ago this was sort of a shaky question but under Feisty Server, is hot-swap of SATA drives (RAID 5) supported?
[07:34] <sauvin> I suspect most package managers are going to be "dependency hell".
[07:34] <lynn> nm NETWizz
[07:34] <demonspork> thedash, I don't understand it fully, but some applications require a terminal to run
[07:34] <NETWizz> nm?
[07:34] <lynn> never mind
[07:34] <thedash> demonspork :: regardless, it doesn't run either way
[07:34] <teKnofreak> never mind
[07:34] <GuHhH> gustavo
[07:34] <thoreauputic> macd: why did you call the ops?
[07:34] <NETWizz> I am only trying Suse becuase we use it at work
[07:34] <NETWizz> We use Open Enterprise Server (Novell)
[07:34] <macd> b/c all this needs to be in offtopic.
[07:34] <elkbuntu> NETWizz, please discuss suse in #suse
[07:34] <teKnofreak> NETWizz, nobody objects to that
[07:35] <demonspork> thedash, so the vncviewer isn't working even when run from a terminal?
[07:35] <lynn> trying things won't hurt, i agree
[07:35] <teKnofreak> just dont troll here
[07:35] <macd> and that ^^
[07:35] <genefitz> NETWizz, fron what I understand OpenSuse is a great Distro. I don't use it but I know some who swear by it..
[07:35] <thoreauputic> agreed - other distros etc. ---> -offtopic
[07:35] <Punkunity> my beryl doesnt seem to work anymore, is it because i turned the HyperThreading off?? i cllick on beryl for the window manager and my screen flashes
[07:35] <thedash> demonspork :: it works when I run it from a terminal, yes, but it doesn't work at all when run from the launcher, terminal or no
[07:35] <thoreauputic> last warning
[07:35] <Punkunity> and then it goes ok again and i still cnat use beryl just compiz and gmoe
[07:36] <arooni> anyone know how to get video working on the t61 (intel x3100).... i can't make it work at all..... and i've already tried stuff on: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.04_%28Feisty_Fawn%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_X3100_.28Chipset_GM965.29_.28Solved.29
[07:36] <lynn> jonathan_, still there?
[07:36] <macd> Punkunity, chances are hyperthreading turned off has nothing todo with beryl not working, you could ask in #ubuntu-effects
[07:36] <demonspork> thedash, in my own vnc setup I simply bypass the need for the vncviewer, if you are using tightvncserver, it has a built in java interface that can be accessed over http
[07:36] <Punkunity> hey what about ubuntu studio too isnt that a good one or no??
[07:37] <anothrguitarist> Hi all
[07:37] <macd> arooni, are you sure its intel x3100 ?
[07:37] <jonathan_> yes
[07:37] <anothrguitarist> How can I check if my ubuntu is running i386 or amd64? I forgot which version I downloaded
[07:37] <arooni> macd: absolutely:  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 (Chipset GM965)  ... unless lenovo put something else in by mistake
[07:38] <jonathan_> lynn, can u give me some clues?
[07:38] <macd> ahh GM965!
[07:38] <genefitz> Punkunity: I haven't read much about Ubuntu Studio (it is pretty new) I use 64 Studio for recording. It works well.
[07:38] <macd> arooni, talking to a friend with that laptop said he had to use gutsys xorg, and after prolonged use with xgl it crashes
[07:38] <xike> xgl looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/2vp38y, any ideas?
[07:38] <macd> so if you dont use desktop-effects you should be fine
[07:38] <justinb> anyone help me, i cannot get my usb drive to show up
[07:38] <GuHhH> is there any irc client with proxy support?
[07:38] <arooni> macd:  oh noes :(
[07:39] <arooni> macd: well i jsut want video.. i dont need desktop effects yet
[07:39] <genefitz> justinb: are you hotplugging or are you cold plugging?
[07:39] <macd> you should be fine using gutsy (or just gutsys xorg)
[07:39] <jonathan_> are u there, lynn?
[07:39] <lynn> thinking jonathan_...
[07:39] <Ahadiel> GuHhH: xchat
[07:40] <GuHhH> Ahadiel: is it GUI?
[07:40] <Ahadiel> GuHhH: Yes
[07:40] <GuHhH> Ahadiel: thanks
[07:40] <arooni> macd: so how do i fix?
[07:40] <vic1ous> anyone know why my master capture keeps getting muted when i got in counter-strike through cedega?
[07:41] <lynn> sorry jonathan_ , i ran out of ideas, i haven't had slee in ages :/
[07:41] <lynn> *sleep
[07:41] <lynn> got to go
[07:41] <imbecile> how can i see how much freespace i have on a drive?
[07:41] <eifzon_> anyone can recommend a good antivirius for ubuntu?
[07:41] <Blah> what's up people :)
[07:41] <genefitz> What's up Blah
[07:41] <sauvin> Unbuntu needs AV?
[07:41] <thedash> demonspork :: I seem to have the same problems with xtightvncviewer
[07:41] <genefitz> Neat name by the way..
[07:41] <arooni> when i try:  sudo apg-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel, i get:  Package xserver-xorg-vidoe-intel is not available, but is referred to by another package... this may meant that the package is missing, has been obslelted, or is only avaialble from another source
[07:42] <krillin> imbecile: df -h
[07:42] <m0u5e> !pastebin m0u5e
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin m0u5e - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <m0u5e> grr
[07:42] <m0u5e> how do i paste again lol?
[07:42] <vic1ous> anyone know why my master capture keeps getting muted when i got in counter-strike through cedega?
[07:42] <Blah> nothing much
[07:42] <justinb> genefitz: both
[07:42] <m0u5e> !paste
[07:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:42] <Blah> building a server
[07:42] <m0u5e> there we go
[07:42] <macd> arooni, what release are you using?
[07:42] <genefitz> justinb, hold on, let me get you some information..
[07:42] <arooni> macd: 7.04 (installed from alternate cd).. as i couldnt get video working
[07:43] <arooni> to boot into livecd
[07:43] <macd> gotcha, gimme a sec here
[07:43] <demonspork> I don't know what else to do
[07:43] <arooni> macd: thanks bunches
[07:43] <nigname> hello, where can i find a copy of apt-get (in tar.gz)
[07:43] <nigname> oh, and also, what is the extension for ubuntu packages
[07:43] <genefitz> justinb: is your external NTFS?
[07:44] <nigname> also, how can i enable the ssh service in my server?
[07:44] <vic1ous> anyone know why my master capture keeps getting muted when i got in counter-strike through cedega?
[07:44] <cyrenity> am getting this eeror
[07:44] <cyrenity> Ready: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!
[07:44] <justinb> genefitz: i don't know, i assume fat32
[07:44] <Ayabara> I just downloaded an icon set from gnome-look... but where do I put it?
[07:44] <cyrenity> with my hp printer
[07:44] <cyrenity> what this mean any idea?
[07:44] <FuLio> can anyone HELP me please.
[07:44] <sirjoshimus> hi, ive got a noob question
[07:44] <sirjoshimus> how do you run a .run file?
[07:44] <genefitz> Justinb, how was it formatted, or more accurately, what computer did you use to format it the last time?
[07:44] <sauvin> nigname, apt-get comes with ubuntu.
[07:45] <krillin> chmod 700 *.run && ./*.run
[07:45] <sirjoshimus> i double click and it gives me some kind of unicode thing
[07:45] <MarkC> hi, how do i convert flv files to mp3 using mplayer?
[07:45] <sirjoshimus> ok, so just in console
[07:45] <sirjoshimus> alright
[07:45] <justinb> genefitz: it was formatted under windows
[07:45] <GNine> speakin of which.. i still need to configure my network printer ..   :(
[07:45] <sauvin> MarkC, there is an #mplayer channel on this net.
[07:45] <demonspork> thedash, have you tried using Applications > Internet > Terminal Servers Client
[07:46] <genefitz> justinb, windows 95/98, or XP?
[07:46] <FuLio> Can someone please help me???
[07:46] <sauvin> Fulio: with what?
[07:46] <demonspork> thedash, that is vncviewer with a graphical config I think
[07:46] <justinb> genefitz: xp and it is fat32
[07:46] <FuLio> with my nvidia driver
[07:46] <krillin> FuLio: ask away
[07:46] <nigname> sauvin apparently not. i just installed the ubuntu server
[07:46] <FuLio> i went to this site and i did everything it said to do . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526447
[07:46] <nigname> there's nothing installed on it
[07:46] <genefitz> justinb, okay, holkd on, and I will find the info
[07:46] <nigname> not even wget
[07:47] <nigname> apt is not there
[07:47] <FuLio> and after i rebooted i got a Failed to start x server.
[07:47] <nigname> aptitude not there
[07:47] <justinb> genefitz: thank you i really appricate it
[07:47] <GNine> like ubotu sais.. dont ask to ask a question..  ha! i like ubotu
[07:47] <FuLio> it should say "ALL DONE ! You may see a nvidia logo ! Now you can also enable desktop effects"
[07:47] <krillin> FuLio: provide more information. use a pastebin to display /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:47] <jonathan_> huh!
[07:47] <jonathan_> preparing for format, lynn
[07:47] <jonathan_> I can;t do anything
[07:48] <H264> after using XGl for compiz-fusion, I just now swiched back to the default session, and now I get no title bars or boarders for the windows...
[07:48] <genefitz> justinb: maybe this will help.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:48] <FuLio> <krillin: pastebine.ubuntu-nl.org/34028/
[07:49] <FuLio> right now im running xserver on vesa..
[07:49] <Ajit> bluetooth dongle depends on OS???
[07:49] <FuLio> =\
[07:49] <genefitz> justinb: note the drive IDs will differ
[07:49] <nigname> how do i unmount my cdrom
[07:49] <Blah> I can't handle this multitasking
[07:49] <demonspork> thedash, when I made a launcher for vncviewer to connect to my server, it worked correctly when set as "application in terminal", the only difference is that I included the host in the command and it asked for the password rather than having that done by  passwd
[07:49] <Ajit> or just I purchase a dongle and this will work in Ubuntu as well  as in Windows??????
[07:50] <sauvin> Can anybody else confirm that ubuntu server does not install apt-get on initial install?
[07:50] <GNine> right click on on it and choose unmount
[07:50] <FuLio> krillin; did you get it?
[07:50] <H264> anybody have a few commands up their sleeve for getting titlebars back in the default session?
[07:50] <desertc> Hello - would someone recommend an RPG they like to play on Ubuntu, please??
[07:50] <beg1689> desertc what kind of rpg
[07:50] <demonspork> What would I add to an fstab line to grant me full read/write access to the partition when it is mounted?
[07:50] <beg1689> dare i say... nethack?
[07:50] <nigname> sauvin it seems like none of the commands are available
[07:50] <desertc> beg1689: Something with a story
[07:50] <H264> desertc: planeshif is an alright opensource MMORPG
[07:50] <cyrenity> hay
[07:50] <desertc> H264: Thanks sounds good
[07:51] <cyrenity> guys what to do any idea?
[07:51] <beg1689> desert, planeshift for mmo, you oculd try scourge for something single player
[07:51] <krillin> FuLio: 404
[07:51] <FuLio> can someone help me with my NVIDIA driver..
[07:51] <nigname> how do i un mount my cdrom?
[07:51] <FuLio> krillin; what you mena?
[07:51] <FuLio> ,eam*
[07:51] <FuLio> mean*
[07:51] <krillin> FuLio: i get a 404
[07:51] <sirjoshimus> can i install unreal tournament goty on 64 bit feisty?
[07:51] <krillin> ah, typo on your part
[07:51] <sauvin> nigname, how are you trying to invoke the commands you say aren't available?
[07:51] <desertc> H264: Hope it has an AMD64 version.  KK have a good day.  Don't give any support to those Dell users who are getting sent here from their technical support call centers!  :)
[07:51] <desertc> sirjoshimus: No.
[07:51] <sirjoshimus> why not?
[07:52] <sirjoshimus> it can be ported to linux
[07:52] <FuLio> <krillin: pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/34028/
[07:52] <FuLio> lol
[07:52] <sirjoshimus> id think that it could
[07:52] <FuLio> sry.
[07:52] <nick__> to unmount right click  on cd and choose
[07:52] <beg1689> ut2004 has a 64 bit linux binary
[07:52] <nigname> sauvin well, i inserted the ubuntu desktop cd hoping to find packages to install, but i didnt find them
[07:52] <GNine> there is one , demonspork.   do u know how the  sudo shown -R  line goes?
[07:52] <nigname> so i was going to try the instalation disk instead
[07:52] <sirjoshimus> well thats bogus
[07:52] <nigname> which makes more sense
[07:52] <nigname> apparently mount cdrom works
[07:52] <GNine> chown, that is
[07:52] <krillin> FuLio: start by looking at the WWs, then the EEs. i see a "(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:10:3) found"
[07:52] <sauvin> nigname, is your ubuntu server machine connected to the internet?
[07:52] <beg1689> theres no reason to use 64 bit
[07:52] <nigname> how do i un mount it so that i can take it off?
[07:52] <nigname> sauvin yup
[07:52] <genefitz> justinb: have any luck?
[07:52] <beg1689> use the 32 bit version if if your having trouble
[07:52] <H264> after using XGl for compiz-fusion, I just now swiched back to the default session, and now I get no title bars or boarders for the windows... anybody have a few commands I could try?
[07:53] <nigname> i did ifconfig
[07:53] <FuLio> krillin ; how do i do that?
[07:53] <demonspork> GNine?
[07:53] <rockets> teKnofreak, LostIRC works OK I guess.
[07:53] <demonspork> GNine, what do you mean
[07:53] <krillin> FuLio: there's a problem with your xorg.conf is what that means
[07:53] <sauvin> And ubuntu sevrver is indeed installed on that machine; you're not just using a livecd when you try to invoke these commands?
[07:53] <rockets> At least it doesn't crash.
[07:53] <nigname> sauvin nope, i already partition the disk and ubuntu has been correctly installed
[07:53] <nigname> it boots and everything
[07:53] <FuLio> krillin; how do i fix it? can you help me please/
[07:53] <sauvin> How do you log into this machine?
[07:53] <nigname> but some of the most basic commands are not avaiable
[07:54] <GNine> sudo chown -R <your username>:users  /media/disk-1 or whatever u call ur partition
[07:54] <nigname> well, i have physical access
[07:54] <sauvin> That depends on what you mean by "basic".
[07:54] <krillin> FuLio: magic. come on, help me help you. post your xorg.conf. i'm not a mind reader
[07:54] <sauvin> How are you logging on to this machien?
[07:54] <nigname> im using my laptop right now on windows, the server is right next to me
[07:54] <nigname> as root
[07:54] <nigname> the command line says root@Shalico:/cdrom#
[07:55] <teKnofreak> root ?
[07:55] <sauvin> When yo log onto this machine, is the livecd mounted?
[07:55] <nigname> sauvin have some patience please, im brand new in this area (obviously!)
[07:55] <FuLio> im truly a newbi. help me out, how do i do that.
[07:55] <nigname> no
[07:55] <sauvin> Then you shouldn't be in /cdrom.
[07:55] <nigname> i did the instalation, took the cd out and rebooted
[07:55] <nigname> the linux ran like it should, i would think so at least
[07:56] <sauvin> On this machine, do this: echo $PATH
[07:56] <GNine> time for a bagel
[07:56] <krillin> FuLio: a little googling would be appreciated as well. upload /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a pastebin. i can't tell you what's wrong with something i don't have access to
[07:56] <nigname> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[07:57] <sauvin> Do this: ls /usr/bin/apt*
[07:57] <sauvin> Confirm or deny that apt-get is there.
[07:57] <FuLio> <krillin: pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/34031/
[07:57] <nigname> its there
[07:57] <nigname> and others too
[07:57] <sauvin> When you try to run apt-get, what result do you get?
[07:58] <nigname> /usr/bin/apt-get
[07:58] <nigname> aptitude too
[07:58] <Ajit> bluetooth dongle depends on OS and dongle drivers? I have dual boot PC, my USB is working in ubuntu and in windows OS so dongle would work in both OS ???
[07:58] <nigname> i guess i need to add something to my path?
[07:59] <floppyears> hi my ubuntu machine crashes when I turn it on
[07:59] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[08:00] <nigname> sauvin how do i make that command available without having to type the whole directory?
[08:00] <krillin> FuLio: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/chapter-08.html (that came from reading your /var/log/Xorg.0.log + google by the way)
[08:00] <krillin> FuLio: reference the first FAQ
[08:01] <FuLio> krillin;yes
[08:02] <sauvin> You do not need to add anything to your path. You should be able to say apt-get from any command line and have it do something.
[08:04] <Blah> now that I have learned linux I should learn how to type
[08:04] <hxu> Hi! I tried getrlimit(RLIM_MQUEUE, rlim), the hard limit and soft limit are all -1, which means infinity, any idea?
[08:04] <Blah>  /:)
[08:04] <numus> i changed my icons in ubuntu a while ago
[08:05] <numus> like where the close and minimize buttons are and i dont remember how i did it
[08:05] <Superkuh> Anyone know how I could check if hardware tcp checksum offloading is enabled on my (mobo integrated) NIC under ubuntu (feisty) (or if a more general answer exists for debian-like, or even general linux systems)?
[08:05] <^futuro> Goodmorring
[08:05] <numus> any idea?
[08:06] <krillin> numus: In GNOME? I believe it's set in your theme. So System -> Preferences -> Themes I think
[08:06] <numus> that does basic themes
[08:06] <moyer> how do i lock my screen without running the screen saver at all.. my monitor shuts down i dont need it..
[08:06] <yigal> i need help very badly, a file called "yes" appear where every i have done some work.  it used to be small 50-100K and it used to come every 1/2hour - and hour now it comes every 10 minutes and is about 4M?
[08:06] <numus> this added like a rollup button
[08:06] <yigal> does anyone have a clew?
[08:06] <yigal> what it is?
[08:06] <n2diy> numus: next time leave a trail, so you don't get lost, keeping a notebook is a good idea.
[08:06] <FuLio> Any help ??
[08:07] <^futuro> I want mount usbdisk in blackbox but when I write
[08:07] <FuLio> krillin; can you still help out?
[08:07] <^futuro> sudo fdisk -l
[08:07] <numus> n2diy i know lol.. i haven't been able to access my ubuntu parition for a while and i changed a laptop to ubuntu
[08:07] <^futuro> and I mount it
[08:07] <numus> want to set it up like my desktop and i dont remember how i did it
[08:07] <Arafangion> yigal: YOu have given us no information.
[08:07] <Arafangion> yigal: Therefore, we cannot help you.
[08:07] <^futuro> in /dev/sda
[08:07] <^futuro> doesn't work
[08:07] <krillin> FuLio: did you read the first 'common problem'?
[08:07] <nigname> sauvico it works
[08:07] <FuLio> yea it was hard for me.
[08:08] <Arafangion> yigal: All you have told us is that a given random file has the name 'yes', and it eventually gets big.
[08:08] <mannytu> numus: Menus & tool bar?
[08:08] <^futuro> I am a newbie
[08:08] <nigname> sauvin it works, i appreciate your help a lot :)
[08:08] <mannytu> me too
[08:08] <krillin> FuLio: well, the answer is right there. if you're unwilling to help yourself, i'm unwilling to help you.
[08:08] <nigname> same here
[08:08] <astro76> moyer, if you click the shutdown button one of the options is lock screen
[08:08] <numus> mannytu no.,. this was something else
[08:08] <FuLio> .....
[08:08] <sauvin> I sorta thought so. Something just wasn't right.
[08:08] <yigal> Arafangion: the file is called 'yes' and the command $file generates:yes: GNU dbm 1.x or ndbm database, little endian
[08:08] <yigal> Arafangion: is this any better
[08:08] <moyer> yeah but it will  run screen savor
[08:09] <moyer> it doesnt give me option not to, whats the commmand anyone know?
[08:09] <yigal> Arafangion: I am trying to find someone else who has had a similar problem
[08:09] <cjae> ports forwarded properly, encryption enabled and legacy enabled, still only 5kB/s how do I make utorrent faster
[08:10] <m0u5e> how do i install network-manager-gnome for xubuntu? :X
[08:10] <m0u5e> whats the command to make it auto boot up @ start?
[08:10] <^futuro> ehi...help me please
[08:10] <astro76> moyer, so it does... I have my screen saver on blank screen :)
[08:10] <^futuro> I am registred to forum ubuntu
[08:10] <krlostr> hola
[08:10] <ranjan> please suggest a stable html/css/javascript code editor with code hints
[08:10] <moyer> do i have to run the screen saver though, i dont want to even run the blank one
[08:10] <^futuro> but i cannot remember my user and password
[08:10] <^futuro> asdad
[08:11] <moyer> or is the blank one.. not running a saver
[08:11] <krlostr> como estan?
[08:11] <astro76> !html | ranjan
[08:11] <ubotu> ranjan: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[08:11] <ipis> whats a good iso burner
[08:11] <krillin> !english
[08:11] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:11] <astro76> !es | krlostr
[08:11] <krlostr> ok
[08:11] <Ahadiel> Hey, so I have my HP dv6000 laptop running feisty and I can't get some of the FN keys to work. (The only ones I cannot get working are the Play/Pause, Stop, and << / >>).
[08:11] <ubotu> krlostr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:11] <Blah> <html expert
[08:11] <floppyears> hi, what package should I use: nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx ?
[08:11] <krlostr> sorry
[08:11] <krlostr> im not looking for help
[08:11] <mannytu> ubotu: Do you ever sleep?
[08:11] <sauvin> Ubotu is a BOT.
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <krlostr> just trying this irc stuff
[08:12] <ranjan> astro76: quata, scrrem - unstable, nvu = development stopped, bluefish = no code hinting
[08:12] <krillin> floppyears: if you're using the latest nvidia cards, then the nvidia driver is probably better
[08:12] <cyrenity> guys am getting error in my  printer
[08:12] <cyrenity> i see statys
[08:12] <astro76> ranjan, not sure if it does what you want but try amaya
[08:13] <ranjan> astro76: amaya is outdated
[08:13] <astro76> krlostr, then welcome, join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[08:13] <Nicark> anybody knows how i can play RM files?
[08:13] <ranjan> astro76: even if gedit has plugins i will be happy
[08:14] <cjae> I don't think isp is shaping either
[08:14] <astro76> !real | nicark
[08:14] <ubotu> nicark: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <arooni> can someone please give me a bittorrent client i can install from the command line?
[08:14] <voidmage> rtorrent
[08:14] <m0u5e> anyone know how to connect to a wireless network using the term?
[08:14] <Nicark> thanks :)
[08:15] <m0u5e>  i need to connect to a WPA encrypted wireless network, it detects it fine when i sudo iwlist ethX scan, :D
[08:15] <Ajit> bluetooth dongle depends on OS and dongle drivers? I have dual boot PC, my USB is working in ubuntu and in windows OS so dongle would work in both OS ???
[08:15] <cjae> voidmage, does it have dht?
[08:15] <voidmage> nope, sorry
[08:15] <shiester_miester> wow, I finally managed to connect to the internet in ubuntu...
[08:15] <shiester_miester> can someone please help me figure out why it doesn't usually work?
[08:16] <sauvin> shiester_miester, wireless?
[08:17] <shiester_miester> sauvin, nope, just plain old cat5 into an adsl router
[08:17] <shiester_miester> it is most definitely supported out of the box with no config necessary
[08:17] <shiester_miester> except that its been acting up lately
[08:17] <sauvin> Maybe your router is flaky.
[08:18] <shiester_miester> sauvin, nope, its got a series of little lights that show whats going on in each category, and the "ethernet connection" one and "internet connection" one are both always fine
[08:18] <arooni> can someone please give me a bittorrent client i can install from the command line?  (that has a guI)?
[08:18] <shiester_miester> plus, I can reboot into windows (without touching the router) and it works fine
[08:19] <shiester_miester> the problem is almost certainly with ubuntu, which is why I come here
[08:19] <sauvin> I presume eth0 is configured for dhcp?
[08:19] <shiester_miester> eth1
[08:19] <shiester_miester> eth0 is used for my previous failed attempt at networking with another computer
[08:19] <sauvin> What are you using for default gateway?
[08:19] <shiester_miester> I don't see why it would matter whether I used one or the other though
[08:20] <NForc3r> anyone here got any experience installing the driver of an 8800gts on ubuntu
[08:20] <sauvin> It depends on which eth you shoved the cat5 into, I'd think.
[08:20] <shiester_miester> sauvin, its all set to "automatic configuration"
[08:20] <tiyo> hi
[08:20] <shiester_miester> sauvin, and I know that the settings work because its working right now and I haven't changed them!
[08:20] <shiester_miester> NForc3r, yes, I use that card
[08:20] <astro76> !torrent | arooni
[08:20] <ubotu> arooni: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[08:20] <shiester_miester> gday tiyo
[08:20] <NForc3r> how did u install it
[08:21] <shiester_miester> envy
[08:21] <NForc3r> everytime i use the restricted
[08:21] <NForc3r> oh
[08:21] <NForc3r> ok
[08:21] <NForc3r> then how do i install envy
[08:21] <astro76> !envy
[08:21] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[08:21] <shiester_miester> google: envy
[08:21] <NForc3r> (im on windows rite now)
[08:21] <shiester_miester> lmao
[08:21] <NForc3r> but ok
[08:21] <shiester_miester> yeah ive heard that envy is bad
[08:21] <shiester_miester> but it worked for me, go figure
[08:21] <astro76> !worksforme
[08:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[08:21] <astro76> :D
[08:21] <shiester_miester> bah
[08:22] <astro76> lol
[08:22] <shiester_miester> the whole of linux is based on "works for me"
[08:22] <shiester_miester> well ok not the whole
[08:22] <shiester_miester> but a lot of the things we do
[08:22] <krillin> tell that to Linux with regard to the whole Con thing
[08:22] <shiester_miester> many a linux install is held together by the duct tape of various hacks and tweaks
[08:22] <krillin> s/Linux/Linus
[08:23] <shiester_miester> sauvin, any ideas?
[08:23] <cjae> anyone here use mutorrent in wine
[08:23] <darius> anyone here involved in the development or testing of the ubuntu installer or package management?
[08:23] <sauvin> What are you using for default gateway and dns servers?
[08:24] <colinnn> anyone here tried installing google earth in ubuntu? mine reboots xwindows when i run it
[08:24] <m0u5e> how do i connect to a wireless network? is it possible using a terminal?
[08:24] <m0u5e> i'd rather not install network-manager-gnome, as I'm currently on a xubuntu machine
[08:24] <shiester_miester> sauvin, its all just set to "automatic"
[08:24] <m0u5e> hgmm
[08:24] <shiester_miester> sauvin, I havent manually set anything
[08:24] <shiester_miester> well, I did once, but I put it all back to the default
[08:24] <m0u5e> can anyone help me with wireless?
[08:25] <adydas> !wireless
[08:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:25] <astro76> colinnn, I have but it works fine, installed the .bin from google?
[08:25] <colinnn> !google-earth|colinnn
[08:25] <cafuego> m0u5e: 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETWORK_ESS_ID'
[08:25] <darius> miester.. automatic everything is often the source of instability and strange behaviour... just because it works in windows doesnt mean much
[08:25] <sauvin> I may not be able to help with that kind of thing. I don't know what "default" is, and I know nothing about your router.
[08:25] <colinnn> nothing on the bot. mm hmm, i installed it under my username and realized it goes into the wrong directory
[08:25] <colinnn> then i tried instlaling it as root and still, same thing
[08:25] <shiester_miester> sauvin, the thing is, sometimes it works when i boot ubuntu, and sometimes it doesnt.  on the times that it doesn't I just reboot it a few times and it ends up working
[08:25] <cafuego> colinnn: I use it just fine - also made available as .deb.
[08:26] <colinnn> pretty new to linux. in fact, absolutely fricking newbified. think the .deb will make a difference?
[08:26] <cafuego> colinnn: Note it will be very unahppy if you lack (the right kind of) 3d hardware.
[08:26] <shiester_miester> sauvin, but lately its been barely working ever
[08:26] <m0u5e> is there a way i can connect to my wireless using the terminal?
[08:26] <adydas> being a kubuntu fan having to manually install beryl etc im a bit lost on gnomes hole 3d desktop using compiz.. How do you add themes do you need to add a manger for it like beryl has emerald or what?
[08:26] <m0u5e> i'd rather not install network-manager-gnome
[08:26] <shiester_miester> and I certainly haven't changed any settings related to networking
[08:26] <cafuego> colinnn: it ought not make a difference, but the only way top know for sure is to try eh :-)
[08:27] <cjae> ?
[08:27] <cafuego> m0u5e: Pay attention please.
[08:27] <cafuego> m0u5e: 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETWORK_ESS_ID'
[08:27] <shiester_miester> adydas, do you mean themes as in window decorations?
[08:27] <colinnn> haha yeah alright.
[08:27] <m0u5e> cafuego I did... but i have WPA encryption on it,
[08:27] <sauvin> I believe (but won't swear) that I manually set the default gateway. I KNOW I set the DNS servers.
[08:27] <cafuego> m0u5e: ... ouch pain. Ubuntu isn't really set up to do WPA via cmdline.
[08:27] <colinnn> uhm oh, also wanted to ask, cafuego, what are the directories i should install it in?
[08:27] <colinnn> should it be /usr/local/google-earth
[08:27] <m0u5e> cafuego: do i have to use the network-manager-gnome then?  Im not sure im just curious i remember with beryl and emerald you could download from kde-look.org and install themes to do the scheme and any effects etc with compiz how can you do the same.
[08:28] <cafuego> m0u5e: You'll need to set up wpasupplicant with a config file, then start it from /etc/network/interfaces via the pre-up command.
[08:28] <cafuego> colinnn: You can install it anywhere, make a symlink in /usr/bin
[08:28] <m0u5e> cafuego: i dont recall it was this complicated when i got it working last time... :X
[08:28] <astro76> colinnn, if you use the .bin the defaults of /opt and /usr/local/bin are fine
[08:28] <shiester_miester> adydas, i dunno, i use emerald but I just use the default themes
[08:28] <colinnn> !symlink|colinnn
[08:28] <shiester_miester> sauvin, how can one find out the DNS server?
[08:29] <yigal> m0u5e: if you don't want to use network-manager then you should use /etc/networ/interfaces
[08:29] <adydas> can you install emerald with compiz
[08:29] <colinnn> okay, i tried using those and it still restarted X. i think the bin files ended up in the wrong directory though. nvm. i'll work it out
[08:29] <Downsay[Linux] > I am entirely new to linux, could someone please help me out a little bit?  I am considering a permanent switch from windows to linux
[08:29] <adydas> (perhaps im just missing emerald )
[08:29] <krillin> Downsay[Linux] : what's the problem?
[08:29] <adydas> Downsay[Linux] :  shoot if ppl can help they will
[08:29] <WindsofTime> &&Help&& I installed Linux onto my HD, not I would like to  put windows on another Partition..when I went to install Windows it said unknown harddrive!.. I would like to "break a piece" off of my Linux Partition *which is the whole harddrive* and give it to windows..can this be done without a reformat???
[08:29] <cafuego> colinnn: if all else fails: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/google/
[08:29] <Whtiger> Hello
[08:29] <m0u5e> yigal -_- yeah... i prefer the nm-applet to this lol
[08:29] <WindsofTime> *now
[08:29] <sauvin> I use opendns, iirc.
[08:29] <sauvin> Moment.
[08:29] <Downsay[Linux] > my biggest irritation atm is that my font, when I am typing, misses out on finishing some of the letters...like the n's, m's, i's, j's
[08:30] <Whtiger> I get an IRQ handler type mismatch, current handler: timer for my NIC
[08:30] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, are the windows and linux partitions on physically separate drives?
[08:30] <m0u5e> yigal: so after i download it, will it automatically add itself to autostart applications or do i have to do it manually?
[08:30] <WindsofTime> Remodify that, it said Unkown Parition
[08:30] <Whtiger> I have another NIC which works in the same slot, so is this NIC shot?
[08:30] <darius> windsoftime.... if you installed with the LVM yes.... if not your out of luck
[08:30] <adydas> shiester_miester: it says emeralds the thing for berly not compiz or are they the same?
[08:30] <sauvin> http://www.opendns.com/
[08:30] <shiester_miester> adydas, emerald works with compiz and beryl
[08:30] <colinnn> thx cafuego
[08:30] <yigal> m0u5e: network-manager?
[08:30] <[meme] > HELP: I need to give two people that work for me a way to modify my webpage. so I have created a webadmin group, add these two people into it and change the group of the htdocs directory, but when they change something files are created with their owner and group ID. What I can do?
[08:30] <benanzo> can i initiate a GNOME XDMCP connection remotely?  not on my network
[08:30] <m0u5e> yigal:  yes
[08:30] <WindsofTime> shiester_miester, sorry..Its on one harddrive..one partition..linux is the only OS right now.. I would like to break a piece off of Linux's partition and give it to windows to use.. its this possible?
[08:31] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, you dont "Break" a partition :P you resize them
[08:31] <yigal> m0u5e: i believe it does but i use  /etc/network/interfaces
[08:31] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, and yes, you can resize the linux partition so that windows has more room to play with
[08:31] <Downsay[Linux] > my question is how to fix my font I suppose
[08:31] <WindsofTime> alright
[08:31] <WindsofTime> how do I go about doing this
[08:31] <WindsofTime> >_>
[08:31] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, although installing windows will make you unable to boot into linux
[08:31] <dariuskane> you cant resize partition inside linux unless youve used LVM to manage volumes
[08:31] <m0u5e> yigal: how do you configure /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:31] <Downsay[Linux] > I'm not sure if it has something to do with the amount of dpi I have allowed in Linux or not
[08:32] <WindsofTime> shiester_miester, why?
[08:32] <shiester_miester> dariuskane, he didnt say "inside linux"
[08:32] <yigal> m0u5e: it will depend on the wifi card you are using
[08:32] <benanzo> m0u5e: "man interfaces" in a terminal
[08:32] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, because windows only tolerates booting alongside other versions of windows (and maybe a few other OSs, certainly not linux)
[08:32] <dariuskane> you cant resize partition from windows installer either
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Well it was able to before
[08:32] <shiester_miester> dariuskane, you can do it from the live CD
[08:32] <WindsofTime> When I had windows
[08:32] <yigal> m0u5e: i am using what was and may still be somewhat tricky rt73 chipset for what you want - i believe - a WPA wifi connection
[08:32] <WindsofTime> and then installed Linux
[08:32] <m0u5e> yigal: i use several access points, so i need roaming :X
[08:32] <WindsofTime> I was able to boot from either
[08:32] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, if you install linux after you install windows then yes you can
[08:32] <WindsofTime> why not now?
[08:32] <dariuskane> not without lvm
[08:32] <WindsofTime> =\
[08:33] <WindsofTime> Is there a manual way of getting into Linux after this?
[08:33] <benanzo> can I do a remove XDMCP connection like you can with VNC or just ssh -X?
[08:33] <benanzo> remote
[08:33] <dariuskane> and if you understand the boot loader you can load 100 different OSs from the same system
[08:33] <shiester_miester> but if you install windows after linux then windows will overwrite grub (linux' boot loader) with its own
[08:33] <yigal> m0u5e: roaming is not an issue.  you would probably set up a couple of scripts that can change for a WEP, WPA, WPA2 connection etc.
[08:33] <WindsofTime> thats homosexual person
[08:33] <WindsofTime> >_>
[08:33] <Weredragon> I need extreme help in the partition creator, when in the Ubuntu installer.
[08:33] <shiester_miester> dariuskane, yes, the grub boot loader.  installing windows overwrites it, as far as I know
[08:34] <shiester_miester> I'm not aware of the windows boot loader having such functionality
[08:34] <Downsay[Linux] > can anyone help me out?  Imy first problem is that I cannot get my font on my monitor to show everything I need it to...
[08:34] <sauvin> shiester_miester is correct. Windows will clobber ANY competing operating system's boot loader.
[08:34] <astro76> [meme] , usermod -g webadmin $USER
[08:34] <shiester_miester> yay
[08:34] <WindsofTime> cause it is a homosexual person
[08:34] <yigal> m0u5e: interfaces method uses the commandline iwconfig + iwpriv tools but it is a script that ubuntu/debian understand how to use
[08:34] <Geek_> hmm
[08:34] <shiester_miester> if windows was a person, we would all be in trouble
[08:35] <shiester_miester> sauvin, any idea what commands I could use to debug my networking problem?
[08:35] <sauvin> Yea. Fat, stupid and POWERFUL.
[08:35] <Downsay[Linux] > is anyone hearing me?
[08:35] <sauvin> No, I don't :(
[08:35] <[meme] > astro76: I have already added my two users to the webadmin group, but i used -G
[08:35] <Downsay[Linux] > or is my irc client not working?
[08:35] <shiester_miester> Downsay[Linux] , no, nobody can her you :P
[08:35] <dariuskane> windows doesnt play nice but it can be fixed afterwards
[08:35] <yigal> m0u5e: thats the only advantage in using it over a homemade script
[08:35] <Downsay[Linux] > surely this has to be an easy fix
[08:35] <shiester_miester> yes, you will need to reinstall grub onto the master boot partition
[08:35] <astro76> [meme] , -G adds to group, -g changes default login group
[08:35] <Downsay[Linux] > part of my letters are being cut off when I am typing and when I am reading fonts
[08:35] <astro76> [meme] , i.e. the one listed in /etc/passwd for the user
[08:35] <Downsay[Linux] > for you guys I am sure it looks normal
[08:36] <Downsay[Linux] > but on my end it is terribly messed up
[08:36] <shiester_miester> Downsay[Linux] , if someone who is paying attention knows of a solution to your problem, I'm sure they will try to help
[08:37] <[meme] > astro76: buy why do I need to change them from their own group to the webadmin group, will not be ok to add them to this group?
[08:37] <dariuskane> have you checked your resolution is set to the right dimensions... and/or set it to a new font in the system menu
[08:37] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, once you install windows, you will have to put grub back onto the mbr.  grub tolerates windows, windows doesn't tolerate anything else
[08:37] <m0u5e> yigal: do you know why i would get this msg: /usr/bin/esd: not found everytime i run nm-applet?
[08:37] <astro76> [meme] , because that's what you need to do to have files they create be owned by their user, which is what you wanted
[08:37] <astro76> [meme] , err, by the webadmin group
[08:38] <dariuskane> esd is a abstract sound driver.... you havent installed it
[08:38] <yigal> m0u5e: no isnt that the enlightned sound daemon?
[08:38] <shiester_miester> sauvin, if its any help, when the internet won't connect and I try to ping anything, it always says "sendmsg: operation not permitted" or something like that
[08:38] <Weredragon> Could anyone help me with making the partions so I can install Ubuntu?
[08:38] <unomystEz> why does ubuntu install packages (with apt-get) into /usr and /etc and /var spreading the package's contents everywhere in my OS?
[08:38] <WindsofTime> shiester_miester, can this be done without the risk of losing anything from Linux?
[08:38] <yigal> m0u5e: it means you don't have /usr/bin/esd
[08:39] <sirjoshimus> you can partition from the live cdd
[08:39] <sirjoshimus> cd*
[08:39] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, yes, the linux partition shouldn't be touched at all
[08:39] <[meme] > but then every file they create in their normal use will be owned by webadmin group.
[08:39] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, but linux's boot loader will be removed
[08:39] <sirjoshimus> just hit manual configure partition
[08:39] <sirjoshimus> and select what you like
[08:39] <dariuskane> unomystez.... thats how the file system is structured for linux.... its not windows with everything dumped in program files
[08:39] <m0u5e> yigal: do i need it? :X
[08:39] <WindsofTime> shiester_miester, So how do I restore it and save my info and my linux?
[08:39] <yigal> m0u5e: NO
[08:39] <WindsofTime> How do I restore the Grub and boot loader
[08:40] <thyko> how do i reconfigure a packege?
[08:40] <yigal> m0u5e: i don't know why it is giving you that error though
[08:40] <JesusOnStilts> hey how would i create a partition from freespace on my filesysem?
[08:40] <colinnn> wow. being tech support on this channel is a full time job man.
[08:40] <thyko> apt-get install blah
[08:40] <astro76> [meme] , you could have them chgrp the files they create
[08:40] <dariuskane> mouse.. no you dont need it... but it will keep looking for it
[08:40] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, not entirely sure, I've never done it.  I don't believe its too difficult though
[08:40] <thyko> now i want to reconfigure blah
[08:40] <WindsofTime> =\
[08:40] <Weredragon> sirjoshimus:  I booted from the live CD, but when tr to install it onto the harddrive..  it errors
[08:40] <WindsofTime> Thank you, but I wish someone knew how to do it
[08:40] <shiester_miester> JesusOnStilts, you need to use a partition editor, like gparted in linux or partition magic in windows
[08:40] <m0u5e> yigal hmm thats weird...
[08:41] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, someone does, try asking the channel later
[08:41] <yigal> m0u5e: unless its trying to play some music, but it needs esd to do it ?
[08:41] <colinnn> JesusOnStilts: i think you need to defrag first too.
[08:41] <JesusOnStilts> but for my hda1 shiester_miester ?
[08:41] <shiester_miester> JesusOnStilts, for any hdd, i assume
[08:41] <JesusOnStilts> i did fsck
[08:41] <JesusOnStilts> where is defrag?
[08:41] <shiester_miester> you don't need to defrag a linux file system
[08:41] <yigal> m0u5e: you could install the package esound it should be very small and it has /usr/bin/esd in it and see what happens ?
[08:41] <WindsofTime> shiester_miester, sadly I dont have that much time =\
[08:41] <shiester_miester> JesusOnStilts, it doesn't get fragmented in the first place
[08:41] <WindsofTime> Do you think they may have it in the forums?
[08:42] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, thats unfortunate
[08:42] <JesusOnStilts> it is safe to unmount hda1??? while on it?
[08:42] <JesusOnStilts> haha
[08:42] <Weredragon> It says failed to partion but lets me continue to the next step... I don't want to erase my windows though
[08:42] <shiester_miester> WindsofTime, probably
[08:42] <WindsofTime> !forums
[08:42] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[08:42] <shiester_miester> JesusOnStilts, its probably only safe if that drive isnt being used
[08:42] <m0u5e> yigal: yeah, im in the process of testing, apparently this /usr/bin/esd error is quite common throughout several gnome apps :X
[08:42] <cjae> anyone here use mutorrent in wine
[08:42] <shiester_miester> Weredragon, do you have partitions set up for ubuntu?
[08:42] <yigal> m0u5e: what type of dependencies exist for esound ?
[08:42] <JesusOnStilts> that's the thing dude
[08:42] <thyko> ubotu: reconfigure
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <m0u5e> yigal: yup its gone
[08:43] <JesusOnStilts> it's my filesystem drive
[08:43] <JesusOnStilts> my main one
[08:43] <yigal> m0u5e: gone where ?
[08:43] <JesusOnStilts> i need to partition it from the freespace
[08:43] <xike> anyone know offhand how to shorten the delay time before grub automatically resumes with the default choice?