[12:07] <slask3n> catolh: I have a pretty nice and simple skin for mplayer on my xbox, but i dont know its name .s
[12:07] <gimme3d> could be in peices btw
[12:07] <dam> how do i save a password with terminal server client?
[12:08] <slask3n> holycow: ok, thanks anyway =)
[12:08] <holycow> slask3n, oh you made it work?
[12:08] <holycow> okay that means udev doesn't know how to create the devices
[12:08] <dam> i run xboxmediacentre. i love it!!!!
[12:08] <holycow> google up udev, theres a ton of info on that, i had to tell udev how to create devices for my vmware install as it doesnt' know how to do that automatically
[12:09] <Eilonwy05> anyone?
[12:09] <slask3n> holycow: im a n00b, i wont recognize udev or what it is if it was shitting in my face...
[12:09] <allerbest> vinboy: I don't know a single one. Just check that your partition doesn't get too full (leave always c. 5% free)
[12:09] <allerbest> vinboy: Or use ReiserFS. But this is not Ubuntu-specific.
[12:09] <oni> how I can get my full 1280x1024 on ubuntu?
[12:10] <holycow> slask3n, don't worry, just start googling and researching, no better way to elarn :)
[12:10] <slask3n> dam: xbmc rules! ;)
[12:10] <holycow> slask3n, at least you know what to google for, google for udev and your camera model and ubuntu
[12:10] <gimme3d> oni: what is your problem?
[12:11] <dam> slask3n, do you use it via http aswell?
[12:11] <oni> I'm not getting the full resolution
[12:11] <gimme3d> oni: do u mean u cant select it or does ubuntu not switch higer? waht res is your monitor capable of?
[12:11] <holycow> oni, you need to input the correct refresh rate for your monitor model into /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[12:11] <oni> that's the res
[12:11] <oni> and how do I do that?
[12:12] <holycow> oni, then restart the xserver, and it should appear as an option in system / pref / resolution
[12:12] <oni> how do I edit this file?
[12:13] <gimme3d> sudo gedit etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <deFrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <deFrysk> is the correct way
[12:13] <holycow> deFrysk, no thats wrong, he wont get a chance to input the refresh rate in there
[12:13] <gimme3d> yepp
[12:13] <deFrysk> oh ?
[12:13] <deFrysk> sice whan ?
[12:13] <deFrysk> since when* ?
[12:14] <holycow> let me check, i cant remember ever seeing that in there :)
[12:14] <slask3n> holycow: http://little.xmtp.net/blog/2005/04/24/logitech-quickcam-messenger-in-linux/
[12:14] <vinboy> allerbest, thanks.... i used to defrag every month in winxp :D
[12:14] <slask3n> dam: no, i use it with the xbox :p
[12:14] <slask3n> dam: the http-interface is way too slow for me..
[12:15] <gimme3d> guys, what does  DRI initialization failed!                  *
[12:15] <gimme3d> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[12:15] <gimme3d> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[12:15] <gimme3d> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[12:15] <gimme3d> (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* * exactly mean, and hwo do i get rid of it?
[12:15] <dam> slask3n, oh ok! it works ok for me, try updating the skin?
[12:15] <holycow> deFrysk, thats what i thought, you don't get to INPUT refresh rate for your monitor in there
[12:15] <holycow> you get to only select whatever it thinks is available
[12:16] <catolh> Is it any way possible to install steam with Wine? or do i have to use cedega?
[12:16] <holycow> if his moni is unknown he will get the default option
[12:16] <liran> uhm, whats default root password for ubuntu installation first-time?
[12:16] <oni> ._.?
[12:16] <holycow> there is no root password liran
[12:16] <catolh> liran, there isnt one..
[12:17] <holycow> everything is run from sudo
[12:17] <catolh> use "sudo" instead of su
[12:17] <Eilonwy05> anyone have any experience with a newer kernel than 2.6.10-5 that ships with Hoary, and SATA optical drives?  I'm running on a Dell Inspiron 9300 laptop, and when I upgraded my kernel (so I could use newer ATI drivers) I lost access to my CD drive.  no /dev/cdrom*, and cat /proc/scsi/scsi only lists one scsi bus
[12:17] <P3L|C4N0> liran $ sudo passwd root
[12:17] <catolh> liran, like.. "sudo <cmd>"
[12:17] <liran> right thanks
[12:17] <deFrysk> !sudo
[12:17] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:17] <gimme3d> Eilonwy05: tell me *please* about updating kernel for newer ati drivers....
[12:18] <slask3n> dam: i have the Project Mayhem III skin that was in the build as default.. and im happy with that, its more than skins that count after my oppinion.. I rather use OK-looking software that works rather than goodlooking M$ crap for instance
[12:18] <liran> it put my screen res to 640x480 and there's no way to change it from the System -> Screen Resolution panel
[12:18] <liran> is there some Xconfigurator tool?
[12:18] <deFrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <holycow> liran, you need to add the proper refresh rates for your moni /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:19] <allerbest> I'd like to add Debian Sarge to the apt/sources.list. Is this a very bad idea? :-) I need "knoda" which seems to be not in universe/multiverse
[12:19] <slask3n> dam: but unleashedX and XBMC is some of the most genious apps for xbox along with the dvd2xbox :)
[12:19] <holycow> allerbest, it is a very bad idea, don't do it
[12:19] <Eilonwy05> gimme3d: I had to download the latest kernel from kernel.org, then download the rpm for the ATI drivers, edit several lines in the kernel module code, and then build the ATI drivers
[12:19] <deFrysk> allerbest, very bad
[12:19] <allerbest> holycow: And how do I get "knoda" then?
[12:20] <holycow> recompile it and package it on ubuntu
[12:20] <oni> what value I must edit in xorg.cong?
[12:20] <oni> *conf
[12:20] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[12:20] <gimme3d> Eilonwy05: ill try this....sitting here for 3 days not getting 3d working :p
[12:20] <allerbest> holycow: I thought it wouldn't harm if I add Debian Sarge, check out knoda and the remove Debian Sarge from sources.list
[12:20] <Eilonwy05> gimme3d: and I'd link you to the site that had the specific edits to make, but I'm in WinXP and the bookmark is in Linux
[12:20] <deFrysk> allerbest, I would put the source-repo in and apt-get -b <package>
[12:20] <holycow> Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync"   "30-94"
[12:20] <holycow>         Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-75"
[12:21] <allerbest> deFrysk: There seems to be no source-repo ...
[12:21] <holycow> those options, you need to find those exact values for your particular monitor model and make
[12:21] <oni> second monitor? I don't have second monitor
[12:21] <allerbest> deFrysk: http://www.knoda.org
[12:21] <holycow> oni, those are just mine, find yours, its similar
[12:21] <deFrysk> allerbest, source repo of sarge that is
[12:21] <holycow> let me find my first moni
[12:22] <liran> holycow: im not seeing any changes, isn't it enough to logout and login again?
[12:22] <deFrysk> if they have it compile it against ubuntu
[12:22] <holycow> HorizSync       30-94
[12:22] <holycow>         VertRefresh     50-75
[12:22] <holycow> those are what you are looking for
[12:22] <holycow> liran, you need to restart x with either ctrl / backspace or ctrl / alt / backspace, cant remember which command it is
[12:22] <allerbest> deFrysk: You mean I should add Debian Sarge Source repo, check out the source of Knoda and then compile it?
[12:22] <liran> ctrl+alt+bksspace, thanks let me try it
[12:22] <holycow> liran, please don't use my settings tho, they are for my monitor only
[12:23] <gimme3d> Eylonwy05: will i ruin my system installing the kernel without changes or wont ati drivers work properly?
[12:23] <holycow> you need to google your settings for your model and make
[12:23] <holycow> very important
[12:23] <deFrysk> allerbest, yup use apt-get -b <yourdesiredpackage> to build it properly for ubuntu
[12:23] <deFrysk> allerbest, yup use apt-get source -b even
[12:24] <liran> holycow: yeah, i was trying that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i dont think it worked fine. i was back to text console and tried `startx` though it fails
[12:24] <holycow> no, that only lets you select one refresh rate, not set the refresh rate range
[12:24] <holycow> that part isn't automated yet
[12:24] <dam> slask3n, whats unleeasedX do?
[12:25] <Eilonwy05> gimme3d: http://eulex.0nyx.com/inspiron6000.html under "gfx card" has the details for modifying the code that you extract from the rpm you get at the ATI site
[12:25] <slask3n> why edubuntu really? we already have the great project skolelinux
[12:25] <slask3n> dam: its like evolutionX only better
[12:25] <holycow> slask3n, because skole isn't debian based?
[12:25] <gimme3d> Eilonwy05: thx!
[12:25] <slask3n> holycow: it is if i dont am wrong
[12:26] <Eilonwy05> anyone have input on my question?
[12:26] <holycow> it is? *hmmm*
[12:26] <holycow> oh lookee
[12:26] <holycow> it is
[12:26] <holycow> okay, good question indeed :)
[12:26] <Eilonwy05> anyone have any experience with a newer kernel than 2.6.10-5 that ships with Hoary, and SATA optical drives?  I'm running on a Dell Inspiron 9300 laptop, and when I upgraded my kernel (so I could use newer ATI drivers) I lost access to my CD drive.  no /dev/cdrom*, and cat /proc/scsi/scsi only lists one scsi bus
[12:26] <dam> slask3n, mmm. kewl. get it at usually places?
[12:27] <slask3n> holycow: its debian based too http://skolelinux.org
[12:27] <vinboy> hi
[12:27] <vinboy> how do I configure my mouse's thumb button to work
[12:27] <slask3n> dam: yes, i used #xbins @ efnet...
[12:29] <chakri> hi
[12:29] <liran> ok well, no luck. i cant run x now. i get "no screens found"
[12:30] <chakri> how to start a service like sshd
[12:30] <incubii> heh i run breezy on my laptop, so i dont get x at all either ;)
[12:30] <holycow> liran, you changed just the refresh rates correct?
[12:31] <holycow> and you changed them to the correct specified rates?
[12:32] <arnau_> Hello. I have ubuntu hoary with firefox 1.02. I cannot view pdf files. Somebody can explain me why, please?
[12:32] <Eilonwy05> please? anyone?  Is my question getting filtered by flood prevention? ... I know it's a bit long...
[12:32] <dam> slask3n, so to install unleashedX do i just copy over files ie; default.xbe via FTP?
[12:32] <holycow> arnau_, you need a pdf viewer
[12:32] <holycow> try installing evince with synaptic
[12:33] <arnau_> I have xpdf as a viewer but firefox is unable to run it.
[12:33] <liran> holycow: hold on, im trying to check whats working in xorg.conf.original that isnt in my altered xorg.conf
[12:33] <guillem> Anyone using vpnc cisco client?
[12:34] <holycow> liran, yes, always keep backup copies, does using the .original one restore your monitor usability?
[12:34] <arnau_> In fact, with the previous version of firefox, all were OK but with the last upgrade, firefox works bad.
[12:34] <holycow> arnau_, consider using another browser alternatively
[12:34] <liran> holycow: yep
[12:34] <liran> holycow: but its 640x480.
[12:34] <chakri> how to start sshd in ubuntu
[12:34] <holycow> current ff upgrades hosed something, i think it has to do with the 1.0.5 updates ...
[12:35] <liran> holycow: maybe ill switch to win to check out refresh rates for 1024x780
[12:35] <chakri> is there sshd in ubuntu
[12:35] <razerslut> anyone have any recommendations for a music player that is > amarok
[12:35] <holycow> arnau_, try using something like galeon or epiphany-browser
[12:35] <razerslut> ?
[12:35] <holycow> liran, win wont tell you
[12:35] <arnau_> Yes, I can use konqueror but firefox is very good for me. Do you know if it is a bug in firefox 1.02?
[12:35] <holycow> liran, win hides that from you actually, it lets you select from an option based on a list it keeps
[12:35] <holycow> liran, google your monitor an make
[12:36] <chakri> can any one help me regarding a problem in ssh
[12:36] <holycow> there is a sticker on the back, if the refresh rates arent there google the model, you will eventually find a seller that posts the rates
[12:36] <liran> holycow: what setting you got for monitor driver?
[12:36] <chakri> i am unaable to ssh into ubuntu system from fc4
[12:36] <holycow> chakri, whatst he problem?
[12:36] <Stianjj> chakri: ssh-krb5 - Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH with Kerberos)
[12:36] <razerslut> anyone have any recommendations for a music player that is > amarok
[12:36] <holycow> chakri, did you install it and configure sshd?
[12:37] <nalioth_zZz> chakri: yes it's called "openssh-server" in the repos
[12:37] <chakri> hoycow, oh, i thaught that i comes by default
[12:37] <holycow> liran, just google your monitor horizontal and vertical refresh rates plz :)
[12:37] <Stianjj> razerslut: xmms is ery good
[12:37] <holycow> google knows all
[12:37] <chakri> ok
[12:37] <Eilonwy05> razerslut: I use XMMS, but that's just because it's like Winamp which I also like
[12:37] <nalioth_zZz> chakri: only the ssh client is default
[12:37] <Eilonwy05> razerslut: but it does everything, if you install the right plugin
[12:37] <razerslut> well
[12:38] <razerslut> that would be fine but i prefer a wmp type interface
[12:38] <razerslut> any ideas?
[12:38] <chakri> nalioth_zZz, thank you
[12:38] <liran> holycow: whats the line to define refresh rate? cause im not seeing anything like that in xorg.conf
[12:38] <guillem> Stianjj, really, bit looks quite ugly :-P
[12:38] <holycow> liran sec
[12:39] <Eilonwy05> razerslut: not sure if k-jofol is still around, as part of KDE, I think it's more like WMP interface...
[12:39] <razerslut> well, im using gnome
[12:39] <chakri> nalioth_zZz,  will i get scp with openssh
[12:39] <holycow> Section "Monitor"
[12:39] <holycow>         Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
[12:39] <holycow>         HorizSync       30-94
[12:39] <holycow>         VertRefresh     50-75
[12:39] <holycow>         Option          "DPMS"
[12:39] <holycow> EndSection
[12:39] <Eilonwy05> ahhhh, not sure then
[12:39] <razerslut> i like amarok but it is slow and wont play my media files for some reason. when i click on them it does nothing
[12:39] <Stianjj> pss:p
[12:39] <razerslut> maybe you can help with that?
[12:39] <evilgod69> razerslut: the only linux media player that seemed to look anything like the WMP interface is amaroK, amaroK can run on gnome, but i don't think there's a package for it in ubuntu
[12:40] <Stianjj> razerslut: selected the audio hardware thingie?
[12:40] <nalioth_zZz> chakri: scp, sftp are both supported in ssh
[12:40] <holycow> i personally preffer beep media player, because i integrates into gnome nicel
[12:40] <holycow> xmms uses a very old gtk binding from what i remember
[12:40] <liran> i think that one works for me
[12:40] <razerslut> stianjj: what hardware thingy?
[12:41] <liran> yep, leet holycow, its working :p
[12:41] <holycow> well, :) dude you really need to google the correct refresh rates tho, don't be lazy
[12:41] <liran> i did
[12:41] <liran> http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=5&id=47
[12:41] <Eilonwy05> so, anybody have input on my question?
[12:41] <holycow> ah, right on :) cool
[12:41] <liran> holycow :)
[12:42] <liran> now i need to check why ubuntu said it couldnt find any network device heh
[12:42] <Stianjj> razerslut: Engine > Arts Engine at the opitons menu
[12:42] <holycow> liran, just remember, the only reason you don't have a gui for that yet is because xserver development stagnated for over 10 years, only recently has their organization revamped and started really working on it
[12:42] <holycow> all this will be automated one day, just give it time
[12:42] <dam> slask3n, so to install unleashedX do i just copy over files ie; default.xbe via FTP?
[12:43] <liran> holycow: im cool with that
[12:43] <allerbest> I can not find "libiconv" in universe/multiverse - am I blind?
[12:43] <Eilonwy05> gimme3d: any luck?
[12:43] <chakri> nalioth_zZz,  whenever i use apt-get i am getting E: Invalid operation mplayer error
[12:43] <evilgod69> Eilonwy05: nono, we can see your question, just no-one's got an answer yet, just ask every once and a while
[12:43] <liran> holycow: i got dsl (damn small linux) runing on my old laptop p2 with 32ram and its runing x11 like leet mofo hehe
[12:43] <Eilonwy05> ok
[12:43] <evilgod69> Eilonwy05: or put something on the ubuntu forums =D
[12:43] <Eilonwy05> I think I just might, evilgod69
[12:44] <gimme3d> Eilonwy05: nope, same error as before....there is sth strange. in xorg.conf, there are two entries for device, vga and ati graphica adapter. when i remove vga, xserver wont start...
[12:44] <Stianjj> why doesn't xfce come on the gdm menu?
[12:45] <holycow> liran, nice :) i had gnome 2.8 running on a 64 meg ram p333 once, it booted into only 48 megs of ram
[12:45] <holycow> spiffy
[12:45] <Eilonwy05> gimme3d: no idea then... sorry :(
[12:45] <Stianjj> and i get the error nodisplay when i trie to start xfce by init 3
[12:45] <gimme3d> but ati control panel says the correct ati driver version number...only opengl is not working...
[12:46] <Eilonwy05> gimme3d: wish I had more answers for ya.... I don't
[12:46] <Stianjj> where is the config file to gdm?, I cant find it...
[12:47] <xuniluser> Hi guys! Are there Matlab users here? Is there a counterpart for this in linux other than Matlab for Linux?
[12:47] <liran> holycow heh, weird stuff :p
[12:47] <Eilonwy05> Well, everyone... it's been fun, I think I'll post the problem on the forums and then get some sleep -- it's quarter to 4AM! :)
[12:47] <paulproteus> Stianjj: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:47] <Stianjj> paulproteus: thanks
[12:50] <Stianjj> paulproteus: The windowmanager list isn't there.. Do you know where it is? :p
[12:51] <slask3n> dam: can i PM you? xbox aint the most Ubuntu related subject exactly
[12:52] <guillem> xuniluser, not a matlab user, but there is "octave"
[12:53] <mr_claus> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu default installation, after logging in the sound comes up and then the screen freezes
[12:53] <xuniluser> guillem: is that supported by ubuntu? i mean can i apt-get it?
[12:53] <mr_claus> i tested some things, i.e. to switch with CTRL+ALT+F1 to console after logging in (before the freeze is happening) and then i could see a kernel panic
[12:54] <mr_claus> but i cannot scroll up so i dont know which part of the system is the reason
[12:54] <liraz> All these bounties and projects, do they usually get integrated back into the original software or is it ubuntu specific?
[12:54] <liraz> like the wireless app, I haven't seen it in any distro's
[12:54] <liraz> yet
[12:55] <hhurtta_> mr_claus: try shift+pgup/pgdown to scroll in console
[12:55] <mr_claus> hhurtta_: after a kernel panic it's not possible
[12:56] <hhurtta_> duh...
[12:57] <hhurtta_> and you cant find anything usefull from eg. dmesg afterwards?
[12:57] <nessmuk> my eth0 is recognized in ubuntu, but not in beatrix. Wondering if there's a way to kickstart it in the terminal
[12:57] <mr_claus> hhurtta_: i cannot do anything after the freeze, i can only reboot, and after a reboot i cannot get any informations about the kernel panic
[12:57] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know how I make the "gnome-terminal" scroll cache larger?
[12:58] <evader> nessmuk, ifconfig eth0 up
[12:58] <evader> ?
[12:59] <MartenH> How can I map hotkeys for launch programs?
[12:59] <evader> otep, gparted?
[12:59] <liran> uhm, how do i show all users in gaim, not sorted into groups?
[12:59] <VincentMX> hi
[01:00] <nessmuk> evader...it says SIOCSIFFLAGS:permission denied
[01:01] <MartenH> nessmuk: try sudo?
[01:02] <nessmuk> MartenH...yeah...did that. It shows in ifconfig now, but still doesn't let browser connect
[01:03] <Therx> i'm about to try and install ubuntu on this pc, but it currently has windows xp on which occupies the whole 80gb disk, but the partition is only 20gb used.
[01:04] <Therx> I want to reduce this to a 20gb (ntfs), create a new 19gb (ext3), 1gb (swap) and 40gb(fat - documents). Can the installer do this, or do i need to do stuff pre-install?
[01:04] <mcrofutt> To each of you who've had a part in building "Ubuntu" ;      WOW,,, A GREAT JOB guys and gals!!
[01:04] <mcrofutt> Keep up the GREAT work
[01:05] <Therx> i read somewhere that you have to defrag before resizing partitions... is this true?
[01:05] <Egg098> you shouldn't have to defrag
[01:05] <evilgod69> Therx: the defrag thing isn't true, i used to do it all the time
[01:05] <liraz> Should I be using firefox 1.0.3
[01:05] <liraz> ?
[01:05] <liraz> *1.0.2
[01:06] <MartenH> How can I map hotkeys for launching programs?
[01:06] <Therx> and what are the chances that i'll lose data?
[01:06] <Therx> (i have backed up but would rather not risk it...)
[01:06] <mcrofutt> slim to NONE,,
[01:06] <lpk> Is there a GUI for unrar-nonfree ?
[01:06] <evilgod69> Therx: think, just alittle higher than the power going out
[01:06] <Egg098> definitely make sure you have an uptodate backup of everything
[01:07] <Therx> also does it matter that i'm resizing it to very close to the used size? (i.e. used space = 19.5gb, i want to reduce it to a 20gb partition)
[01:07] <deFrysk> lpk, rightclick in nautilus
[01:07] <rootbeer> anyone know what application to use in ubuntu that's similar to gkrellm?
[01:07] <Egg098> it depends if you think you will use more space
[01:07] <Therx> but it won't cause it to corrupt or anything?
[01:07] <franck> Hi, for those who care, I'm back with my SOLVED locales problem !
[01:08] <kolcvk> hi does anybody have file libGLU.la ?
[01:08] <Egg098> it shouldn't, no
[01:08] <liraz> according to my ubuntu upgrades, 1.0.2 is the latest version of firefox/latest update. Is there a way to ensure that this is actually 1.0.2+patches and not just the original firefox 1.0.3
[01:08] <liraz> *1.0.2
[01:08] <Therx> (that partition will have the docs moved off it once the install's done)
[01:08] <Therx> k, thx everyone
[01:08] <franck> It was due to localepurge, preserving only fr_FR, as most apps provide a fr translation (not fr_FR)
[01:09] <franck> Thanks all for your support
[01:09] <kolcvk> hi does anybody have file libGLU.la ?
[01:09] <kolcvk> its in /usr/lib
[01:09] <mcrofutt> I'm checking now
[01:09] <kolcvk> :)
[01:10] <hhurtta_> o_O
[01:10] <mcrofutt> sorry,,, not in my fulesystem
[01:11] <mcrofutt> filesystem even
[01:11] <funkyHat> is anyone else still having problems connecting to hoary-security?
[01:11] <kolcvk> :(
[01:11] <kolcvk> fck i cant run Metisse without that file ...
[01:11] <mcrofutt> Have you tried googling for it?
[01:12] <hhurtta_> kolcvk: why you ask?
[01:12] <kolcvk> hhurtta_, i did not understand you ?
[01:12] <kolcvk> hhurtta_, i did not understand you
[01:12] <kolcvk> what or why ?
[01:12] <hhurtta_> that file is in some opengl library
[01:12] <hhurtta_> can't you just install it?
[01:13] <kolcvk> i cant find it ...
[01:13] <hhurtta_> try installing apt-file -utility
[01:13] <hhurtta_> then apt-file update
[01:14] <hhurtta_> and use manual pages
[01:14] <hhurtta_> i'm not on home computer atm so I'm unable to help much
[01:15] <kolcvk> ok thanks anyway
[01:15] <kolcvk> :)
[01:15] <funkyHat> kolcvk, what's the name of the file you need?
[01:16] <kolcvk> libGLU.la
[01:17] <kolcvk> funkyHat, do you have it ?
[01:17] <funkyHat> i'm looking
[01:17] <kolcvk> :)
[01:17] <kolcvk> its in /usr/lib
[01:17] <hhurtta_> kolcvk: just having that file is not probably enough
[01:18] <kolcvk> may i paste few lines ?
[01:18] <kolcvk> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libGLU.la'
[01:18] <kolcvk> make[3] : *** [FvwmAmetista]  Error 1
[01:18] <kolcvk> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/kolcvk/progs/metisse-0.3.5/FvwmAmetista/main'
[01:18] <kolcvk> make[2] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[01:18] <kolcvk> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/kolcvk/progs/metisse-0.3.5/FvwmAmetista'
[01:18] <kolcvk> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[01:18] <kolcvk> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/kolcvk/progs/metisse-0.3.5'
[01:18] <kolcvk> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[01:18] <kolcvk> kolcvk@tux-box:~/progs/metisse-0.3.5$
[01:19] <kolcvk> :that is the problem ...
[01:20] <funkyHat> i have libGLU.so.variousstuff.
[01:20] <funkyHat> but no libGLU.la
[01:20] <kolcvk> but libGL.so ?
[01:21] <hhurtta_> kolcvk: try installing mesa-devel or something
[01:21] <hhurtta_> or libglu1-mesa
[01:22] <hhurtta_> or libglu1-mesa-dev
[01:23] <lesshaste>  what is support for the ati radeon xpress 200p like?
[01:23] <kolcvk> i dont have them in synaptic
[01:23] <kolcvk> lesshaste, just install the Linux Drivers
[01:23] <kolcvk> :)
[01:23] <lesshaste> kolcvk, what do you mean? You know about this or just guessing?
[01:24] <kolcvk> i have a Radeon 9550
[01:24] <kolcvk> and it works with original ATI driver for Linux
[01:25] <kolcvk> need a link ?
[01:25] <kolcvk> hhurtta_, i have onli xlibsmesa
[01:25] <kolcvk> or smth
[01:25] <kolcvk> :)
[01:25] <r0d> ubuntu wont mount my ntfs partitiions. fstab is "/dev/hda1 ntfs user,noauto,ro 0 0" any reason why it doesnt work?
[01:26] <lesshaste> 3D acceleration for ATI PCI-Express ?
[01:26] <kolcvk> r0d
[01:26] <kolcvk> try to mount manually
[01:27] <kolcvk> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[01:27] <kolcvk> (under root)
[01:27] <kolcvk> you may include
[01:27] <kolcvk> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt -o ro
[01:27] <razerslut> hello, i seem to be having trouble in ubuntu with my mouse cursor,
[01:27] <J_P> hi all
[01:27] <razerslut> i cant switch windows
[01:29] <funkyHat> well we can't help you if you leave, can we?
[01:29] <sophtpaw> hello
[01:29] <funkyHat> hi :)
[01:29] <sophtpaw> can someone teach me how to use irc?
[01:29] <nightswim> you already can
[01:29] <nightswim> you are typing innit
[01:29] <funkyHat> you seem to be doing well so far :D
[01:29] <sophtpaw> i don't know how to find an address
[01:30] <Pixel83> err... what type of address?
[01:30] <sophtpaw> well...for example irc.debian.org
[01:30] <r0d> kolcvk,  yea i can mount manually
[01:30] <funkyHat> sophtpaw, http://irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html this should help
[01:30] <r0d> just during startup
[01:30] <Pixel83> that's a server
[01:30] <sophtpaw> thx funkyHat!
[01:31] <kolcvk> r0d
[01:31] <kolcvk> then you have error in fstab
[01:31] <r0d> dont know how kolcvk  i have done this many times in other distros
[01:31] <kolcvk> paste plz line which mounts
[01:31] <kolcvk> (fstab)
[01:32] <hhurtta_> kolcvk: name of package containing libGLU.la in debian is xlibmesa-glu-dev
[01:32] <funkyHat> r0d, what's the line in fstab that isn't mounting?
[01:32] <kolcvk> hhurtta_, thx
[01:32] <r0d> /dev/hda1       /mnt/ntfs       ntfs     user,noauto,ro   0     0
[01:32] <jblu> HiddenWolf, I'm getting an Invalid Memory Access G4 ppc Hoary.  Help?
[01:32] <kolcvk> i had same problem early
[01:32] <ilba7r> can i install ubuntu on a partition that have /home directory without erasing the /home directory
[01:32] <kolcvk> r0d it will not mount on /mnt/ntfs
[01:32] <r0d> kolcvk, how come?
[01:33] <HiddenWolf> jblu: no clue, i don't have a mac, and know nothing about ram
[01:33] <kolcvk> try to put it on /ntfs or /mnt
[01:33] <r0d> omg is that a bug or something
[01:33] <hhurtta_> kolcvk: it has that file in /usr/X11R6/lib/ so possibly some ln -s i s needed
[01:33] <jblu> How did I address you , personally?  I didn't do that!
[01:33] <r0d> kolcvk,  it mounts manually like that though /mnt/nfts
[01:33] <kolcvk> do you have directory /mnt/ntfs ?
[01:33] <funkyHat> r0d, did you mkdir /mnt/ntfs ?
[01:34] <kolcvk> :_)
[01:34] <funkyHat> heh
[01:34] <r0d> funkyHat,  yea
[01:34] <jblu> anyone? my system usally fails in 3 or 4 days
[01:34] <kolcvk> what are the perms ?
[01:34] <kolcvk> try 777 on that dir
[01:35] <r0d> kolcvk,  yea i have chmod 777
[01:35] <r0d> but i dont think that to be safe
[01:35] <kolcvk> aaa
[01:35] <kolcvk> you know why it won't mount ?
[01:35] <r0d> besides its only read only drive
[01:35] <Egg098> I installed Ubuntu today but I have no sound at all, is there some package I need?
[01:35] <funkyHat> r0d, it doesn't matter, as you're mounting ro anyway
[01:35] <jblu> someone know about invalid ROM signature?
[01:35] <kolcvk> you have noauto
[01:36] <r0d> kolcvk,  thats why im here lol
[01:36] <r0d> funkyHat, i know. its a werid thing why its not working
[01:36] <kolcvk> remove noauto
[01:36] <r0d> im not new to linux
[01:36] <sophtpaw> #new2irc
[01:36] <kolcvk> :))0
[01:36] <funkyHat> r0d, kolcvk got it, it won't mount with mount -a because you have noauto set
[01:36] <r0d> kolcvk, i though you had to have that (NOAUTO)
[01:36] <kolcvk> funkyHat, i told him
[01:36] <kolcvk> :)))
[01:37] <r0d> funkyHat, ok let me try
[01:37] <funkyHat> kolcvk, sorry, i'm treading on your toes, i'll leave you too it:)
[01:37] <kolcvk> r0d no aito removes auto mounting
[01:37] <r0d> wait funkyHat i do have noauto on
[01:37] <kolcvk> remove it
[01:37] <kolcvk> noauto only for floppies and cdroms
[01:37] <kolcvk> (removable media)
[01:38] <r0d> kolcvk, right but isnt a regular user suppose to mount it still
[01:38] <kolcvk> no only root have access for mounting
[01:38] <kolcvk> if you need to give access to user
[01:38] <kolcvk> use sudo
[01:38] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[01:40] <jblu> wow, this is a busy place:)
[01:40] <kolcvk> jblu, need help ?
[01:40] <jblu> yes!
[01:40] <nion> hi
[01:41] <kolcvk> i'm listening
[01:41] <jblu> invalid memory access, invalid ROM signature
[01:41] <Seng><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:41] <nion> why does the xorg-driver-fglrx package doesn't install a kernel module in /lib/modules/... ?
[01:41] <kolcvk> emm what Computer do you have ?
[01:41] <kolcvk> PPC ?
[01:42] <kolcvk> nion, what card do you have ?
[01:42] <jblu> eMac G4 1Ghz , 1GB RAM
[01:42] <kolcvk> jblu, sorry but i don't specialize on Macs ..
[01:42] <jblu> is there a specialized ubuntu for ppc?
[01:42] <macintoshr> yep
[01:42] <Pixel83> yes, there ist one.
[01:42] <tahorg> jblu: yes
[01:42] <macintoshr> there is
[01:43] <jblu> is it #ubuntu-ppc or something?
[01:43] <Pixel83> has anyone experience with mac mini as a server?
[01:43] <nion> kolcvk: ati 9600 mobility
[01:43] <nion> kolcvk: and just driver fglrx does not work in my xorg config
[01:43] <nion> kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:43] <kolcvk> :)
[01:43] <jblu> I think we need one!
[01:43] <Pixel83> (under ubuntu)
[01:43] <kolcvk> nion, install native ATI driver
[01:44] <nion> kolcvk: i tried but it doesn't compile
[01:44] <kolcvk> :)
[01:44] <kolcvk> its in .run
[01:44] <kolcvk> (binary)
[01:44] <nion> kolcvk: ?
[01:44] <nion> sorry don't understand :)
[01:44] <kolcvk> you dont need a source driver
[01:44] <kolcvk> you can get binary
[01:45] <kolcvk> that is already compiled for you and have GUI
[01:45] <nion> kolcvk: from which source?
[01:45] <nion> kolcvk: you mean the install script?
[01:45] <kolcvk> yes
[01:45] <kolcvk> i will give you link
[01:45] <nion> kolcvk: ah ok thanks, i did't know that it contains it in binary
[01:45] <nion> thanks!
[01:47] <raoul> bonjour
[01:47] <raoul> j'ai un ptit probleme
[01:48] <kolcvk> ENGLISH please
[01:48] <kolcvk> or #ubuntu-fr
[01:48] <guillem> kolcvk, perhaps THAT is his problem :-P
[01:48] <raoul> j'arrive pas installer le webmin, car on me dit que la dependance libauthen-pam-perl n'est pas installee
[01:49] <jk24> raoul: crit en anglais, ou va sur #ubuntu-fr s'il te plais
[01:49] <raoul> mais avcec synoaptic je ne vois pas le paquet libauthen-pam-perl
[01:49] <raoul> OK desole
[01:50] <catolh> has anyone tried the WineCVS.sh script from linux-gamers.net ?
[01:50] <jk24> raoul: hoary, breezy ?
[01:50] <enno_> hello. just installed ubuntu hoary. hardware works great.  thank you guys.
[01:50] <kolcvk> nion , https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[01:50] <mikul> i installd linux/ubuntu for the first time yesterday and trying to learn som shit now. and i'm woundering if someone know how i can change the standard terminal in ubuntu/gnome...
[01:51] <kolcvk> :)
[01:51] <jk24> raoul: libauthen-pam-perl: 0.14-1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[01:51] <kolcvk> just run another terminal e.g sh
[01:51] <samu> does ubuntu come with any small apps for displaying pictures?
[01:51] <jk24> mikul: why, what't wrong with gnome-terminal ?
[01:52] <mikul> yeah, i have installd another terminal but i want to make that one standard
[01:52] <kolcvk> use  setenv
[01:52] <kolcvk> :)
[01:52] <kolcvk> or chsh
[01:52] <kolcvk> chsh USERNAME
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> samu: yeah the default one
[01:52] <jk24> kolcvk: nop, that's change the shell, not the terminal
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> double click on a picture
[01:52] <sexcopter8000m> what is a good solution for anti-virus in ubuntu? do i need any?
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> the best app is gthumb
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> sexcopter8000m: you don't need one
[01:53] <samu> HrdwrBoB, but from the command line?
[01:53] <sexcopter8000m> oh cool. can you tell me why?
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> gthumb file.jpg
[01:53] <samu> HrdwrBoB, thanks
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> sexcopter8000m: because there aren't any viruses as such for ubuntu
[01:53] <holycow> or linux in general
[01:54] <jk24> mikul: prefered apps/terminal on the system/settings menu
[01:54] <sexcopter8000m> is that just because no-one's bothered to write any?
[01:54] <holycow> no one has found one in the wild ever i don't think
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> sexcopter8000m: partly
[01:54] <holycow> sexcopter8000m, well have you ever tried to actually install software on linux?
[01:54] <holycow> do you see how hard that is?
[01:54] <sexcopter8000m> only using apt-get
[01:54] <holycow> imagine writing a virus?
[01:54] <kolcvk> sexcopter8000m, http://www.ubuntuguide.com
[01:54] <holycow> you would need to convince the users to like download dependencies, and compile it, and install it
[01:54] <holycow> submit patches
[01:54] <holycow> -_-
[01:54] <holycow> it aint happening
[01:55] <kolcvk> :)
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> holycow: well.. that's a bit misleading
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> but close enough for jazz
[01:55] <sexcopter8000m> hmm, so all this you hear about people exploiting windows with a jpeg... is that just windows being its wonderful mysterious stupid self?
[01:55] <kolcvk> :))
[01:55] <holycow> yes it is, lame attempt at humour
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> sexcopter8000m: pretty much
[01:55] <holycow> >_>
[01:55] <sexcopter8000m> ok :)
[01:55] <samu> i thought you are not supposed to link to ubuntuguide
[01:55] <kolcvk> Winslows must die
[01:55] <sexcopter8000m> what about spyware, malware etc, does the same apply?
[01:55] <kolcvk> :)
[01:55] <simone> hi
[01:55] <holycow> same, no one has found any
[01:55] <kolcvk> hi simone
[01:55] <kolcvk> :)
[01:56] <simone> i have a problem with password in the network setting
[01:56] <mikul> jk24, thanks!
[01:56] <sexcopter8000m> nice, no spyware or viruses to worry about ^_^
[01:57] <sexcopter8000m> or is it virii, the plural of virus? ;p
[01:57] <njan> sexcopter8000m, no. It isn't.
[01:57] <njan> :)
[01:57] <lesshaste> does mplayer work in 64 bit mode on an Athlon 64?
[01:57] <razerslut> hello, i am having trouble getting amarok to play files, it just does nothing when i click play, anyone have any idea why?
[01:58] <kolcvk> razerslut, use XMMS
[01:58] <kolcvk> :)
[01:58] <anacron> razerslut: does you other sound's work?
[01:58] <Egg098> i installed ubuntu today, i have no sound at all - is there a package i need?
[01:59] <razerslut> anacron: yes
[01:59] <kolcvk> Egg098, maybe
[01:59] <Nameeater> anyway to play windows media player streams? (audio)
[01:59] <razerslut> it seems to be with the player, it is not actually playing the file
[01:59] <vinboy> if I installed a new library
[01:59] <aleksi> Egg098: ubuntuguide.org solved my sound problem
[01:59] <vinboy> do I need to restart ubuntu?
[01:59] <razerslut> kolvck: i would, but it is very ugly and i hate it
[01:59] <kolcvk> but maybe your card is not configured well
[01:59] <Egg098> thanks, i'll take a look
[01:59] <anacron> razerslut: well check out that amarok is using right soundinput (alsa etc)
[02:00] <razerslut> how do i check that?
[02:00] <holycow> then try beep media player or muine
[02:00] <anacron> razerslut: i dunno, im not using amarok :D
[02:00] <holycow> but it sounds like you need w32codecs ... do you have those?
[02:00] <funkyHat> holycow, bmp won't work any better than xmms if that isn't working
[02:00] <holycow> if not check out the ubuntu website for instructions
[02:00] <baua_Dr_GonZo> hello
[02:00] <razerslut> anacron: what are you using?
[02:00] <holycow> funkyHat, *nod*
[02:01] <razerslut> it doesnt seem to be a sound problem, when i click on play nothing happens.
[02:01] <razerslut> it just is not responding
[02:01] <baua_Dr_GonZo> I have a question
[02:01] <baua_Dr_GonZo> how change the resolution of the console mode
[02:01] <baua_Dr_GonZo> ???
[02:01] <baua_Dr_GonZo> pls
[02:01] <baua_Dr_GonZo> :)
[02:01] <razerslut> when i try to play songs in xmms it freezes up too
[02:01] <funkyHat> razerslut, that is a sound problem
[02:01] <razerslut> the player window actually stops
[02:01] <funkyHat> kill xmms (killall xmms in a terminal window)
[02:01] <razerslut> alright
[02:02] <funkyHat> open it again, and change the output plugin to esound
[02:02] <anacron> razerslut: xmms, works great
[02:02] <razerslut> it is not at the moment
[02:02] <razerslut> i prefer a player with a WMP type interface
[02:02] <razerslut> instead of a winamp type ui
[02:02] <kolcvk> razerslut, then use MPlayer
[02:02] <kolcvk> or Xine
[02:02] <razerslut> mplayer does not work for me either
[02:02] <razerslut> it freezes on load
[02:03] <kolcvk> :)
[02:03] <razerslut> which seems to be a sound problem again
[02:03] <holycow> or totem-xine
[02:03] <razerslut> but i do not have this problem with the default music player, rhythmbox
[02:03] <kolcvk> :)
[02:03] <kolcvk> razerslut, please look at Options
[02:03] <razerslut> i would like to use amarok
[02:03] <kolcvk> look for some Sound Output
[02:03] <kolcvk> driver
[02:04] <kolcvk> ALSA , eSound , OSS ...
[02:04] <razerslut> kolvck: in what player?
[02:04] <razerslut> i have noticed that amarok does not have a music engine selected
[02:04] <Ice-Breaker> hi. i have a problem with installing grub or lilo in the mbr during installation. could it be a problem that there ist no boot part in the 1st sector auf my harddisk
[02:04] <razerslut> and there isnt one that can be selected, would that have something to do with it?
[02:04] <djp> i use rhythmbox to listen to my .ogg files and ogg123 to listen to .ogg streams
[02:05] <razerslut> rhythmbox is not bad but it is not great either
[02:05] <razerslut> i would prefer amarok
[02:05] <djp> .ogg streams do not currently work properly under rhythmbox
[02:05] <sexcopter8000m> if i have a folder like, for example, ~/.aMule, how can i see it in the file browser?
[02:05] <kolcvk> Ice-Breaker, it may be Corrupted CD-ROM
[02:05] <sexcopter8000m> does the . make it hidden or something?
[02:05] <kolcvk> yes
[02:05] <holycow> yup
[02:05] <sexcopter8000m> so can i browse it or can i *only* get there through a shell?
[02:05] <Ice-Breaker> kolcvk, wqas there a version of ubuntu 5.04 that has that problem?
[02:06] <holycow> view / show hidden files
[02:06] <razerslut> i have noticed that amarok does not have a music engine selected
[02:06] <razerslut> is that a possible problem?
[02:06] <sexcopter8000m> ah of course, cheers
[02:06] <holycow> no in nautilus do view / show hidden
[02:06] <kolcvk> Ice-Breaker, i have about 30 Cds that are corrupted
[02:06] <kolcvk> (failed integrity check)
[02:07] <Ice-Breaker> kolcvk how can i test that on windows?
[02:07] <kolcvk> you cant
[02:07] <kolcvk> just boot from CD
[02:07] <kolcvk> try to install
[02:07] <kolcvk> and when there will be error
[02:07] <kolcvk> choos
[02:07] <kolcvk> Check CD-ROM for Integrity
[02:07] <kolcvk> choose *
[02:08] <Ice-Breaker> ok will try that
[02:08] <Ice-Breaker> thx alot
[02:08] <kolcvk> np
[02:08] <kolcvk> if it fails
[02:08] <kolcvk> then the fault is in CD
[02:09] <Ice-Breaker> my pc ist no testing :D
[02:09] <razerslut> mm. daft punk. goodness.
[02:09] <kolcvk> :))))
[02:10] <Ice-Breaker> must i configur a swap part?
[02:10] <kolcvk> thats not nesecery
[02:10] <kolcvk> if you have good PC
[02:10] <kolcvk> it will run without swap
[02:10] <kolcvk> (about 768 megs of ram)
[02:10] <Ice-Breaker> i've got 1gb ram
[02:11] <kolcvk> :0
[02:11] <kolcvk> you may use swap if you ant
[02:11] <kolcvk> want *
[02:11] <kolcvk> but with this ammount of ram
[02:11] <kolcvk> the swap will only slow the work
[02:12] <Ice-Breaker> the prblem ist there are 2 windows part on the disk and and configuring 5 prim part doesnt work...
[02:12] <kolcvk> offcourse
[02:12] <kolcvk> the HDD can only have 4 primary parts
[02:12] <kolcvk> but you could have 1 win Primary and second Win Ext. Logical
[02:13] <Ice-Breaker> but there data an i cant backitup easily
[02:13] <Hoxzer> How do I jump between windows in screen_
[02:13] <Hoxzer> ?
[02:14] <Ice-Breaker> o ris there a save way to transform a prim part into a ext one?
[02:15] <kolcvk> emm actually im not informed about this
[02:16] <Ice-Breaker> kolcvk the cd is correct so that isnt the problem
[02:16] <kolcvk> hmm
[02:16] <gooktime> Hoxzer: control a space
[02:16] <kolcvk> Ice-Breaker, then just try again
[02:17] <learn25> Hi. All
[02:17] <kolcvk> and GRUB MUST be in MBR
[02:17] <kolcvk> :)
[02:17] <kolcvk> learn25, hi
[02:17] <learn25> A new version of fire-fox for linux is now available.
[02:17] <Ice-Breaker> try again installing the whole system or the bootmanager?
[02:17] <learn25> When will the deb package be available for download?
[02:18] <Ice-Breaker> tried lilo and grub an both does not work
[02:18] <learn25> firefox 1.0.6
[02:18] <kolcvk> whole
[02:19] <Ice-Breaker> will try it later. first i eat some thing
[02:19] <Ice-Breaker> thx for your help
[02:19] <liraz> I have tried doing a fixmbr in windows recovery, but I still get ntldr missing(even after totally destroyed grub and setting the second hdd as the first as windows is on)...
[02:19] <liraz> no matter what I do, I get the same thing, ntldr missing
[02:20] <concept10> liraz, did you also try fixboot?
[02:20] <razerslut> can someone tell me where the xchat app dir is stored in ubuntu?
[02:20] <liraz> concept10, what is fixboot?
[02:20] <razerslut> er, im sorry, the gaim dir
[02:20] <razerslut> =)
[02:21] <concept10> liraz, look at the help screen on there or search, I cant find the link for you
[02:22] <concept10> razerslut, locate gaim
[02:22] <razerslut> thank you
[02:22] <Sputn1k> where is windows partitions?
[02:23] <razerslut> can someone tell me what /. means in a directory?
[02:23] <mjr> /. is the root directory, just . is the current directory
[02:23] <razerslut> and does this have anything to do with seeing these files/dirs in file browser?
[02:23] <concept10> razerslut, /usr/bin/gaim
[02:24] <razerslut> mjr: so what dir would this be /home/jon/.gaim
[02:24] <razerslut> and how would i access this dir?
[02:24] <Zukero> hello
[02:24] <Sputn1k> where is windows partitions in ubuntu?
[02:25] <Zukero> i can't get Totem to read video files correctly, nor its thumbnailer for nautilus....
[02:25] <othernoob> Sputn1k: you'll have to mount it first.
[02:25] <Zukero> i followed the procedure about multimedia codecs on ubuntuguide.org
[02:25] <mjr> razerslut, .gaim is just .gaim, it differs from . by "gaim" ;)
[02:25] <Zukero> but still, not thumbnails, and no videos in totem
[02:25] <liraz> concept10, it writes a whole new partition boot sector
[02:25] <mjr> razerslut, anyway, at least from the open location dialog, wasit ctrl-l
[02:25] <razerslut> mjr: yeah but these files and directories dont show up in file browser, why not?
[02:26] <razerslut> open location?
[02:26] <mjr> razerslut, these "dotfiles" are by convention hidden on unix
[02:26] <razerslut> ok
[02:26] <razerslut> how can i make them unhidden?
[02:26] <mjr> ctrl-l in file dialogs or the nautilus browser window, as said
[02:26] <Zukero> when I open a video with totem, I can hear the sound stream, but the video is replaced by some audio visualisation plug-in...
[02:26] <mjr> I think at least file dialogs have a right-click-menu that allows you to make them visible too
[02:27] <mjr> dunno about nautilus, can't check now
[02:27] <djp> Zukero: sounds like you do not have the correct codec to play that file
[02:27] <razerslut> well i was hoping to view them in file browser. that is nautilus?
[02:27] <djp> Zukero: what is the file you are trying to play?
[02:27] <mjr> razerslut, well, see the settings and possible context menus then
[02:27] <Zukero> djp : they all play nicely in MPlayer
[02:27] <Zukero> djp : lots of them
[02:27] <Zukero> divx
[02:28] <Zukero> xvid
[02:28] <Zukero> mkv
[02:28] <mjr> zukero, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:28] <Zukero> none worked
[02:28] <djp> Zukero: under totem you will need to install gstreamer-ffmpeg
[02:28] <Zukero> djp : that's done
[02:28] <Zukero> and all the ones listed in ubuntuguide.org
[02:28] <mjr> I think that should be gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:28] <djp> Zukero: gstreamer-plugins metapackage?
[02:29] <Zukero> done too
[02:29] <vinboy> hi guys
[02:29] <vinboy> how do I change my window background color?
[02:29] <djp> Zukero: should playback then... sorry i can't be anymore help i'm afraid. maybe someone else here knows of certain issues
[02:29] <Zukero> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:29] <Zukero> that's what i did
[02:30] <djp> mjy: cheers. yes what mrj said Zukero
[02:30] <mjr> Zukero, well. Maybe try totem-xine instead of the default totem-gstreamer
[02:30] <TooSad> hi, what program must i install to connect my D500 in bluetooth way?
[02:30] <mjr> though for me totem-gstreamer plays xvids with the ffmpeg codec pack
[02:30] <Zukero> djp : is there any way to use MPlayer as thumbnailer ?
[02:30] <djp> mjr: same here
[02:30] <holycow> Epiphany extensions are different from Mozilla Firefox's because they are implemented in C or Python as opposed to Javascript. This gives enormous flexibility and a bit of added challenge, but it should be no problem for even a beginner to develop an extension which crashes Epiphany on startup.  <-- haha!
[02:31] <holycow> now thats why i love open source, a commercial project could never be that candid
[02:31] <djp> Zukero: you want to make MPlayer the default player?
[02:32] <Zukero> djp : default player is not that of a worry, it's more about thumbnailing in nautilus
[02:32] <mjr> Zukero, try the xine version
[02:32] <djp> Zukero: i'm not sure. i have always used the default players here
[02:32] <chaps0063> how do i setup a tftp server?
[02:32] <Zukero> ok mjr i'll try the xine one
[02:33] <holycow> sudo apt-get install tftpd and reading docs on it?
[02:33] <holycow> just a guess
[02:33] <holycow> -_-
[02:33] <mjr> it does still support a few things more than gstreamer, anyways (well, most notably the w34codecs, but reliance on those is bad anyway :)
[02:33] <lesshaste> anyone know of micro-atx boards with integrated graphics?
[02:33] <holycow> :)
[02:33] <Zukero> mjr : are the xine codecs different packages than for gst ?
[02:33] <asfra> adf
[02:34] <mjr> Zukero, xine comes with its own mostly
[02:34] <holycow> Zukero, yes
[02:34] <mjr> and it uses some of the base libraries you already have
[02:34] <Hoxzer> eh... nobody knows how to jump between windows in SCREEN?
[02:34] <asfra> how do I get codecs for totem?
[02:34] <mjr> Hoxzer, ^A[number]
[02:35] <holycow> if you are running totem-xine download w32codecs, info is on ubuntu website
[02:35] <mjr> asfra, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8.* installs all of gstreamer stuff, which it uses ;)
[02:35] <Hoxzer> mjr: ctrl + A [number]  ?
[02:35] <holycow> if you are running totem-gstreamer search for them in repository with apt-cachje search gstreamre
[02:36] <mjr> Hoxzer, yes. Or space. Or ^A. Or backspace. Or ? for screen's online help :)
[02:36] <Zukero> ok thanks guys
[02:36] <Zukero> i'll try that xine thing out right now
[02:36] <Anton2> Zukero: /join #
[02:37] <Hoxzer> mjr: ;/
[02:37] <asfra> I'm running Totem 1.0.1, think its the default in hoary.  Does totem support TV-out when I have a ATI mobility radeon 9000 card?
[02:37] <Hoxzer> it doesn't work allways
[02:37] <Hoxzer> I have to do it like 10 times before it works
[02:37] <holycow> The GNOME Human Interface Guidelines: this documentation is not strictly required, but it should be treated with at least as much respect as exists towards the Bible, Koran, Torah and all other holy books.  <-- rofl
[02:37] <holycow> epiphany devs take their gnome seriously i think
[02:37] <holycow> >_>
[02:38] <mjr> asfra, I don't know about TV-out, sorry, but nevertheless it's not so much a question of totem supporting tv-out as it is X supporting it
[02:39] <Zukero> great, totem now playbacks nicely
[02:39] <Hoxzer> Mjr: how do I close window?
[02:39] <mjr> Hoxzer, ^A^K
[02:39] <Hoxzer> Mjr: how do I do ^A^? :D
[02:40] <asfra> ok! thanks for the help :) I'm a real n00b but the first thing u said seems to work
[02:40] <mjr> Hoxzer, no ctrl with the ?
[02:41] <oggah> ./j ubuntu.se
[02:41] <Zukero> mjr : do you think I need to reboot gnome, or even computer before thumbnailing works ?
[02:43] <mjr> Zukero, don't know
[02:43] <Zukero> ok :)
[02:43] <Zukero> thx anyway
[02:43] <mjr> probably at most restarting nautilus
[02:44] <Nameeater> is there a different filemanager's I could use?
[02:46] <damian__>  can anyone help with srteaming video in foxfire?
[02:48] <vinboy> does gnomebaker support buffer-underrun?
[02:48] <vinboy> looks like it doesn't
[02:53] <nldk> Has anyone experienced a problem with Firefox in Ubuntu not starting downloads automatically?
[02:53] <Zukero> hi again
[02:54] <jessyjackson> anybody know when openoffice beta will be in the repo?
[02:54] <nldk> When I click on a download link, Firefox does nothing...
[02:54] <Zukero> now that totem is able to playback my videos, why the f**k doesn't it want to thumbnail my files in nautilus ?
[02:55] <Zukero> is it a gnome setting, like not launching totem-video-thumbnailer by default ?
[02:55] <runge> hi do I need any special packet to get php compiled for mysql?
[02:55] <Zukero> or nautilus setting, which I think I set to thumbnail everything it can
[02:55] <ben_underscore> runge, you can install the package for it with synaptic
[02:56] <nldk> Am I really the only one that experiences this?
[02:57] <runge> ben_underscore, do you know the package name? I am searching packages.ubuntu.com and there are lots of packages
[02:57] <lok> Zukero, install gstreamer codecs if you want to thumbails video
[02:57] <tritium> runge, use "apt-cache search <searchterm>"
[02:57] <lok> or totem-xine
[02:57] <runge> tritium, that should be the same as searching online right?
[02:57] <lok> nldk, yes
[02:57] <tritium> runge, easier
[02:57] <Zukero> lok : i just switched to totem-xine cause totem-gst does not playback anything correctly
[02:57] <Zukero> now it playbacks videos okay
[02:58] <Zukero> it is just about thumbnailing
[02:58] <lok> nldk, try galeon, and for ff check that the rep where it must download exist
[02:58] <runge> ok thanks tritium
[02:58] <tritium> runge, what are you looking for?
[02:59] <lok> Zukero, with totem-xine nautilus (without configure it) thumbnails my videos
[02:59] <Zukero> hmmm
[02:59] <runge> tritium, mysql-enabled-php. though I might bin reading phpinfo(); wrong.
[02:59] <paulproteus> Zukero: Yeah, totem-gst isn't very good.  Gstreamer itself needs a lot of work; when Gstreamer 0.9 is released, it'll be much better.
[02:59] <tritium> runge, synaptic also has a search utility
[03:00] <lok> does the X problem on breezy been solved ?
[03:00] <Belutz> runge: i also had that problem, my solution is to install apache and php from source
[03:01] <Zukero> paulproteus : if fact, it does only play audio stream for me
[03:01] <tritium> runge, "apt-cache search php | grep mysql" should help you narrow it down
[03:01] <Zukero> no video at all
[03:01] <asfra> I just run 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8.*' and i installed alot of stuff, however totem stille doesn't play any of my movies. Do I have to reboot? for example I get this :'There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/WD%20MediaCtr/Media(2)/Film/Monster%20(2003)/Monster%20(2003).mpg", you might need to install the corresponding plugins'.
[03:01] <runge> tritium, this is installed as server, with no X.
[03:01] <tritium> runge, ah, okay.  Please try the above, then.
[03:01] <Zukero> asfra : i had the same problem
[03:01] <sorush20> anyone here using a plantronics headset on Ubuntu...
[03:01] <Zukero> asfra : raplace gst-totem by xine-totem
[03:02] <lok> totem-xine
[03:02] <Zukero> or totem-gst by totem-xine
[03:02] <Zukero> yeah :)
[03:02] <lok> and well if you have installed all the codec tha gst handle your movie must be encoded with a bad codec
[03:02] <lok> like wmv, rm or qt :)
[03:02] <asfra> ok, I'd like to do that.. But how do I do that?
[03:03] <lok> asfra, with synaptic
[03:03] <lok> or apt-get install totem-xine
[03:03] <asfra> thanks!
[03:03] <lok> just launch totem it will use libxine instead of gst
[03:03] <asfra> no need to delete anything firt?
[03:03] <lok> no
[03:04] <Zukero> asfra : dependencies check will remove totem-gst before installing totem-xine
[03:04] <Zukero> you can't have the two of them
[03:04] <Zukero> you don't have to worry 'bout it
[03:04] <Therx> i'm having problems with the partition manager, when i try and change the size of a partition, it asks for the new size, and then after that just returns to the initial manual partitioning screen with the size unchanged...
[03:04] <Therx> what am i doing wrong?
[03:05] <Nermal> not writing the changes
[03:05] <Egg098> you need to tell it to apply the changes
[03:06] <sexcopter8000m> howdy, just run chkrootkit, more for curiosity than anything else, and got "Searching for LPD Worm files and dirs... Possible LPD worm installed", should i be alarmed?
[03:06] <Therx> Nermal: it doesn't ask me to write the changes... I select the partition, press enter, select "Size" press enter, choose yes,  type in the new partition size (20.0 GB), press enter and then it just returns to the original
[03:07] <Nermal> maybe there is a commit changes button
[03:07] <Nermal> read the manual
[03:07] <Ice-Breaker> need some help. i cant install grub/lilo during installation.
[03:07] <Therx> manual? where's that?
[03:07] <Therx> is there a guide to this with screenshots?
[03:08] <Therx> (i'm sure a lot of people try dual booting with xp)
[03:08] <Ice-Breaker> kolcvk still there
[03:08] <lexhider> anyone give a breezy X update? is still majorly broken?
[03:08] <ben_underscore> runge, sorry but i was elsewhere - if you want an easy install of php and mysql, try this http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[03:10] <sebest> hello anyone knows about a good tool for assigning custom actions to hotkeys?
[03:10] <liraz> yay! I fixed windows bootup
[03:11] <liraz> but now, I'm interested to know what causes grub to stuffup the windows boot...
[03:11] <Egg098> I always install grub on a floppy
[03:11] <Therx> noone know what i'm doing wrong? or know of a tutorial?
[03:12] <erigato> hi on #debian i hear that upgrading to new release is a real problem in ubuntu, is that correct?
[03:12] <tritium> sebest, in gnome, you can set them in System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:12] <tritium> erigato, for the moment
[03:13] <sebest> tritium, yes, but it doesn't manage custom action
[03:13] <sebest> for example calling a bash script that i wrote
[03:13] <tritium> sebest, ah, I follow you.  Yeah, you're right.
[03:13] <erigato> tritium: so will that be fixed then soon?
[03:13] <AlexMBas> hello, I have upgraded, by mistake to some packages from breezy and now firefox does not start
[03:13] <nubbe> the latest updates still have no changes description (been maybe a day now), anyone knows anything?
[03:13] <tritium> erigato, yes.  it's in active development
[03:13] <sebest> i was using "hotkeys" but it conflicts with vmware
[03:14] <[kabuto] > if i install mysql does it get setup as a daemon?
[03:14] <AlexMBas> it hangs when loading, but no message is returned even on the bash prompt
[03:14] <ben_underscore> [kabuto] , yes
[03:14] <AlexMBas> does anynone knows something about it?
[03:14] <guillem> Can I complie for ubuntu32 from ubuntu64?
[03:14] <guillem> -march=i686 would suffice?
[03:15] <guillem> (I mean compile)
[03:15] <[kabuto] > ben_underscore: i will install it on my laptop and have no need for a daemon process everytime, i just want to start it manually
[03:16] <[kabuto] > ben_underscore: any suggestion?
[03:16] <ben_underscore> [kabuto] , just having a look
[03:16] <AlexMBas> how may I identify from apt or synaptic which packages are installed from breezy and which are from hoary?
[03:17] <guillem> [kabuto] , I guess that you could remove the link from /etc/rc.2/??mysql and always start it up as: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[03:20] <paulproteus> guillem: That's best done using update-rc.d.
[03:20] <ben_underscore> paulproteus and guillem, thanks for this, i've always wondered how it works!
[03:20] <tritium> paulproteus++
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> need to make a "Ubuntu Lite" fork..... based on XFCE
[03:22] <ben_underscore> paulproteus, one thing i think ubuntu needs that manrake/mandrive has is a daemon/service management panel
[03:23] <ben_underscore> [kabuto] , is this an answer to your question? basically to disable the boot execution of mysqld and to run this manually from /etc/init.d using sudo
[03:23] <keikoz> ben_underscore just take them away in /etc/rcS.d and others runlevels directories
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> yeah the services manager in Mandriva is very easy for newbies to use.......just check of the services you want to start on boot .......dont know what the service is click on the info button
[03:24] <tritium> as paulproteus said, use update-rc.d
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> its gtk based and gpl so should be easy to move over
[03:24] <[kabuto] > ben_underscore: all suggestion noted
[03:25] <HollowFrank> i hate modems, damned thing is giving me issues,
[03:25] <ben_underscore> tritium and Linux_Galore: yeah but the whole thing behind ubuntu is to make it a better experience, so a gui tool would be better
[03:25] <ben_underscore> Linux_Galore, point noted though.
[03:26] <tritium> ben_underscore, there will be one in the future
[03:26] <Linux_Galore> Ive tried yast in SuSE too....suse is similar but a bit confusing compared to the way mandriva does it
[03:26] <ben_underscore> i've just swapped from mdk 10.2 to ubuntu.
[03:27] <Therx> k, this partitioning still isn't working... are there any known issues with it?
[03:27] <ben_underscore> tritium, any ideas of when, or who is developing it?
[03:27] <tritium> ben_underscore, I don't recall
[03:28] <HollowFrank> can anyone give me a hand getting a patch to apply, it's claiming to be malformed despite being copied character for character from the wiki
[03:29] <[kabuto] > ben_underscore: heh just found a gui tool boot up manager
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> HollowFrank: text of a diff file
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> or*
[03:29] <HollowFrank> diff
[03:29] <tritium> [kabuto] , which one are you referring to?
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> HollowFrank: have to be carefull with diff files there usually setup for specific file versions....wrong file with different options and it wont work
[03:31] <[kabuto] > tritum: found it on 3rd party ubuntu projects in forums
[03:31] <HollowFrank> it's for an intel536 modem, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto?highlight=%28intel%29%7C%28536%29 - this is what i'm following, line 25:
[03:31] <HollowFrank> @@ -73,41 +72,6 @@
[03:31] <ben_underscore> [kabuto] , did you have a url?
[03:32] <[kabuto] > tritum: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=75
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> HollowFrank: always manually edit the file
[03:32] <mgcross> crap crap crap
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> HollowFrank: cut past
[03:33] <ben_underscore> [kabuto] , what a bummer! :-p
[03:33] <mgcross> made the mistake of leaving smoons repostory set and did an update...now nautilus wont show the desktop and the home folder wont open
[03:34] <mgcross> imilb?
[03:34] <mgcross> heeeeelp
[03:34] <paulproteus> ben_underscore: Such a panel should be handled by a distribution-generic Gnome System Tools program.
[03:34] <paulproteus> And it should exist, I agree on that.
[03:34] <mgcross> where do I start looking/fixing?
[03:35] <mgcross> don't know that it's Imlib
[03:35] <paulproteus> mgcross: Well, if you don't mind losing your GNOME settings, try creating a new user account and seeing if that user can log in.
[03:35] <paulproteus> If he can, then you should restart (to kill stray GNOME processes running as you), log in at a terminal, and delete your GNOME configuration.
[03:36] <mgcross> hmmm...I have another account there....and I tried logging in...no dice
[03:36] <tritium> paulproteus, breezy should have services-admin
[03:36] <HollowFrank> Linux_Galore: first try i pasted, told me was full of rubbish, copy typed it and it's half way there, just having this malform issue and i ain't gotta a clue how to solve it
[03:36] <mgcross> that account hasn't been touched since before the upgrade
[03:36] <paulproteus> tritium: Rock on, then.
[03:36] <paulproteus> mgcross: Hmm.  Try a new one, "just in case."
[03:37] <mgcross> paulproteus: k...I'm downloading a new install cd just in case...downloading now
[03:38] <mgcross> paulproteus: 13 minutes to go <sigh>
[03:38] <paulproteus> mgcross: Well, okay.  That's sad, but okay.
[03:38] <paulproteus> If your home directory is fine, make sure to save it.  No point losing your data if you reinstall.
[03:39] <mgcross> paulproteus: yes it *is* sad....I've managed to fix every other srew up I've made...wish I could remember which updates I did...I could downgrade...
[03:40] <ben_underscore> time for bed guys, see you later
[03:40] <runge> thanks ben_underscore and tritium. I fixed the problem by changing repository to universe
[03:40] <mgcross> paulproteus: yeah...pulled all the important stuff out and saved it to a slave drive
[03:40] <mgcross> paulproteus: <sigh>
[03:41] <paulproteus> mgcross: One of these days, I'm going to write a generic downgrade-packages script.
[03:41] <mgcross> paulproteus: that *would* be nice for doughheads like ME
[03:41] <mgcross> paulproteus: lol
[03:41] <paulproteus> And me, too.
[03:42] <paulproteus> In fact, if you email me about it, I might get around to it faster -<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:42] <mgcross> paulproteus: got it!
[03:44] <paulproteus> http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/downgrade.html
[03:44] <paulproteus> mgcross: That might be enough for you, fwiw.
[03:45] <mgcross> propblem is I *HATE* KDE...need my gnome back tonight...
[03:46] <paulproteus> http://docman.sourceforge.net/home_html/debian.html - look for "unstable grave bug"
[03:46] <mgcross> paulproteus: it will clean up a lot of crap, at any rate...been playing and farting for months
[03:46] <paulproteus> You should pin releases for hoary and breezy, since this is Ubuntu, not Debian, but that should be enough.
[03:47] <mgcross> paulproteus: how doth one do that? or shall I hit the apt howto's <sheepish grin>
[03:47] <hayden> how can i install java 2 sdk?
[03:48] <mgcross> paulproteus: was from a Ubuntu specific E17 repo..lol
[03:48] <paulproteus> hayden: Have you seen the Ubuntu Guide?
[03:48] <paulproteus> hayden: Try there.
[03:48] <mgcross> e17 works GREAAAAT lol...such as it is...
[03:48] <asfra> I'm considering installing hoary on an old computer. Could anyone tell me if a 1,2 GB harddisk 150MHz and 32 MB ram will suffice. I don't need a full install. Just the minimum.
[03:48] <paulproteus> mgcross: Yeah, my script really is in order.
[03:48] <hayden> paulproteus, only jre is explained there
[03:49] <paulproteus> hayden: Ah.  Then:
[03:49] <mgcross> paulproteus: rotflmo!
[03:49] <paulproteus> Step 1. Download the JDK from Sun, latest version.
[03:49] <mjr> asfra, it will "suffice", but you won't have much fun running GUI software on it, even light ones
[03:49] <paulproteus> That'll give you a .bin.
[03:49] <holycow> heh
[03:49] <paulproteus> Step 2: Install make-jpkg from universe.
[03:49] <paulproteus> Step 3: In the directory of the .bin from Sun, do "fakeroot make-jpkg that_sun_file.bin"
[03:49] <holycow> hey guys, what happens when you accidentally drag a panel and align it verrtically where the icons become huge?
[03:50] <holycow> how do you move it back to the top for example without deleting all the icons so you can grab the panel to drag?
[03:50] <paulproteus> And then follow make-jpkg's instructions.  Once that's done (it'll be easy), install the package using "sudo dpkg -i some-package-name.deb"
[03:50] <mjr> holycow, you should be able to grab it right at the edge
[03:50] <mjr> holycow, if at first you don't succeed, try again
[03:50] <holycow> oh there we go
[03:50] <mjr> (and yes, there should be a better way)
[03:50] <paulproteus> asfra: You might be able to get XFCE4 running in 32MB of RAM, but it will be slow.
[03:50] <holycow> thx!
[03:51] <holycow> mjr, indeedy :)
[03:51] <paulproteus> heh, mjr and holycow.
[03:51] <hayden> ahh thanks paulproteus
[03:51] <wrtpeeps> what package to i need installed so as when i right click an iso i can select burn to disc ?
[03:51] <Easty> hi
[03:51] <Easty> i need help with my speakers
[03:51] <hayden> is there an extra repo i have to add to get make-jpkg coz i have universe in my apt sources but it is not installing that package
[03:51] <asfra> ok, thanks! I think I will try to get a new computer
[03:52] <paulproteus> asfra: Well, you could try it.  It will be slow for a desktop.  It will pass as a server, of course.
[03:52] <kangtQc> #J /ubuntu-fr
[03:52] <Easty> they're plugged into an in-built sound card, and ubuntu detects them, but it doesn't use them
[03:52] <paulproteus> kangtQc: Je pense que tu voulais faire "/join #ubuntu-fr".
[03:52] <MartenH> How do I set a program to be launched by a key-combination?
[03:52] <mgcross> paulproteus: her goes nothin' gonna try a new user account
[03:52] <oKtosiTe> What's a good program to organize mp3s in a directory structure according to their id3 tags?
[03:52] <kangtQc> paulproteus, yeps mais j ai ujn pb de clavier lol
[03:53] <mgcross> paulproteus: see you after a re-install...lol
[03:53] <paulproteus> mgcross: Guess so. :)
[03:53] <ed1t> i just formatted C: and for some reason now it delete grub loader too from mbr, c: had windows
[03:53] <ed1t> how do i reinstall grub to mbr?
[03:53] <mjr> MartenH, you probably need to edit the keybindings via gconf-editor
[03:54] <mjr> MartenH, apps/metacity/global_keybindings and .../keybinding_commands
[03:54] <paulproteus> mgcross: Now, what the installer *really* needs is an IRC client so you can socialize here while waiting for the install. ;)
[03:55] <paulproteus> ed1t: sudo grub-install
[03:55] <opossumjack> can anybody tell me if i can use ubuntu on a thinkpad600 laptop?
[03:55] <ed1t> install_device not specified.
[03:55] <ed1t> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[03:55] <paulproteus> opossumjack: A housemate of mine ran Debian on his, so Ubuntu will probably run fine.
[03:56] <paulproteus> ed1t: Do you know what hard disk's MBR you want to install to?
[03:56] <paulproteus> ed1t: if it's the first hard drive (/dev/hda), do: sudo grub-install hd0
[03:56] <Sputn1k> where i can get msttfonts?
[03:56] <paulproteus> Sputn1k: apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:56] <Sputn1k> thx
[03:56] <paulproteus> Rather, go to Synaptic, and search for that package.  Install it.
[03:56] <ed1t> paulproteus, /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:57] <paulproteus> casper, you say?  You're using LVM.  Interesting.
[03:57] <ed1t> paulproteus, shall i do /dev/hda?
[03:57] <paulproteus> ed1t: Yeah, sure.
[03:58] <oKtosiTe> synaptic rather than aptitude...
[03:58] <paulproteus> Well, on the command line, "aptitude install <pkg>".  In the GUI, synaptic.
[03:58] <ed1t> paulproteus, /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:58] <ed1t> i have /sda
[03:58] <ed1t> not hda
[03:58] <Easty> could somebody help me with my speakers?
[03:58] <killapop> yes agree with oKtosiTe, synaptic over aptitude
[03:59] <oKtosiTe> paulproteus: Whenever I fire up aptitude, it wants to remove and install hundreds of packages, while my system's working fine...
[03:59] <killapop> for ease of use reasons
[03:59] <Whistler> is breezy help system going to require firefox ?
[03:59] <occy> :( firefox... :(
[03:59] <killapop> what happened to ur speakers Easty
[03:59] <paulproteus> Easty: Do you have another sound card in your system?
[03:59] <paulproteus> If so, see if sound is coming out of there.
[03:59] <killapop> occy, sup?
[03:59] <Hajuu> Heya! How can I make grub give me the option to boot to my windows partition? someone said there was a config I had to edit or something?
[03:59] <occy> killapop, topic
[03:59] <segfault2k> Hajuu:
[03:59] <occy> killapop, ff been busted since Thursday or so.
[03:59] <segfault2k> Hajuu: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <DuS> wenas
[03:59] <DuS> hi
[03:59] <Easty> just the in-built one...
[04:00] <DuS> spanish??? need help
[04:00] <segfault2k> DuS: k wea
[04:00] <segfault2k> :P
[04:00] <Easty> i've got a network card with sound ports, but that's not currently in the machine
[04:00] <killapop> occy, ooopss pardon me :) didnt look up
[04:00] <segfault2k> Hajuu: and in the finish of the conf file
[04:00] <Easty> should i install that and plug the speakers in there?
[04:00] <segfault2k> add thies
[04:00] <segfault2k> Hajuu: in what partition you have wintendo?
[04:00] <paulproteus> Easty: No.
[04:00] <Easty> k
[04:01] <Hajuu> hdb1
[04:01] <DuS> segfault2k olle podemos hablar en privado please?
[04:01] <segfault2k> ok
[04:01] <Whistler> any ways of make yelp work without firefox?
[04:02] <melodie> Hello all :)
[04:02] <Whistler> hi
[04:02] <marcin> hi all where can I find help for jde package (java development environment for emacs) it's not installable on hoary
[04:03] <Hajuu> segfault2k? You still there?
[04:03] <hayden> how come i cant install the java-package?
[04:03] <melodie> do someone know if and where there is a site to report bugs related to Multiverse packages ?
[04:03] <segfault2k> Hajuu:
[04:03] <segfault2k> yeah
[04:03] <djdigital> anybody know how to get Creative Soundblaster Live 24-bit drivers, for ubuntu 5.04 x64 ?
[04:03] <segfault2k> Hajuu: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2KV6o375.html
[04:03] <segfault2k> open it
[04:03] <segfault2k> and add the code lines to the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <segfault2k> and................
[04:03] <segfault2k> reboot :D
[04:04] <segfault2k> :P
[04:04] <paulproteus> hayden: Which package?
[04:04] <paulproteus> The one you generated, or the one that *does* the generation?
[04:04] <paulproteus> Do you have Universe enabled?
[04:04] <paulproteus> hayden: Do you have Universe enabled?
[04:04] <hayden> yea
[04:04] <paulproteus> hayden: Do you get an error message?
[04:05] <eazel7> j #ubuntu-devel
[04:05] <eazel7> sorry
[04:05] <djdigital> anybody know how to get Creative Soundblaster Live 24-bit drivers, for ubuntu 5.04 x64 ?
[04:05] <hayden> i try to sudo apt-get install make-jpkg, E: Couldn't find package make-jpkg
[04:05] <paulproteus> djdigital: The default ALSA ones might be 24-bit.
[04:05] <paulproteus> Are they?
[04:05] <paulproteus> hayden: You are supposed to install java-package.
[04:06] <djdigital> they dont work...well, i have no sound
[04:06] <paulproteus> If I said something else above, I misspoke.  Sorry. :)
[04:06] <hayden> paulproteus, that doesn't work either
[04:06] <djdigital> alsamixer doesnt open...
[04:07] <paulproteus> sudo apt-get install java-package works for me on my Ubuntu machine, hayden.
[04:07] <hayden> do u mind if i paste u a couple of lines paulproteus ?
[04:07] <segfault2k> paulproteus: mine too
[04:07] <paulproteus> I had to get it from Universe.  Are you sure you have Universe enabled?  (Maybe you need to run apt-get update...?)
[04:08] <paulproteus> hayden: In #flood
[04:08] <hayden> o
[04:08] <hayden> ok
[04:08] <paulproteus> Or use a pastebot.
[04:08] <djdigital> anybody know how to get Creative "Soundblaster Live 24-bit" drivers, for ubuntu 5.04 x64 ?
[04:09] <Easty> me again... i tried doing what it said on http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:09] <Easty> but it still doesn't work
[04:09] <queuetue> Is anyone else finding the lastets firefox update is Just Plain Broken?
[04:10] <segfault2k> why you dont just use konqueror? :D
[04:10] <Easty> how is it broken? seems fine to me
[04:10] <queuetue> Lots of crashes, when doing very mundane things, also it no longer downloades files (or asks to download them) - it just silently does nothing when it gets a file utl.
[04:11] <queuetue> file URL...
[04:11] <queuetue> segfault2k, Because KDE blows?
[04:11] <Amaranth> queuetue: ...
[04:12] <Amaranth> queuetue: See the topic.
[04:12] <queuetue> Amaranth, Thanks - sorry  for not noticing.
[04:12] <segfault2k> queuetue: if kde blows the why is the best D.E ?
[04:13] <Amaranth> segfault2k: No.
[04:13] <Amaranth> segfault2k: Don't.
[04:13] <desrt> hah
[04:13] <humbolt> can I somehow migrate my debian sarge to ubuntu?
[04:13] <queuetue> segfault2k, Simple - it isn't.  And I don't wish to enter your religious war.
[04:13] <segfault2k> haha :p
[04:13] <Amaranth> There will be no show today.
[04:13] <desrt> Amaranth; killjoy
[04:13] <segfault2k> when? :(
[04:14] <queuetue> Amaranth, Where can I follow the unbreaking developments? :)
[04:14] <desrt> humbolt; just edit your sources.list file and put in the hoary repositories
[04:14] <Amaranth> queuetue: No clue, I guess we have to wait for 1.0.7
[04:14] <desrt> humbolt; then apt-get update / apt-get install ubuntu-desktop / apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:15] <parallax> hey all
[04:15] <parallax> i have just installed a cmi8738 pci sound card and i am having bothers
[04:15] <parallax> alsa reports: Failed to open pcm device Device or resource busy
[04:16] <parallax> all the drivers seem to be there on an lsmod
[04:16] <parallax> can anyone help me?
[04:16] <RQ> oss has opened it before
[04:16] <Belutz> is there already an update for firefox and thunderbird??
[04:16] <RQ> i guess
[04:17] <Kyral> parallax, did you use Onboard Sound first?
[04:17] <parallax> i don't know where oss would be if it had opened it already - it shouldn't be using it
[04:17] <parallax> i have onboard sound yes, but it is disabled in BIOS
[04:17] <parallax> it does not show in linux
[04:17] <Kyral> was it disabled before you installed the card (I have the same card)
[04:18] <parallax> how do u mean was it disabled?
[04:18] <Kyral> Onboard Sound
[04:18] <parallax> no - it was enabled. I disabled it myself
[04:18] <Kyral> Atch
[04:18] <parallax> i have been using a bog standard SB PCI 128 for a while
[04:18] <Kyral> I dunno
[04:19] <parallax> that worked fine
[04:19] <Kyral> the only way I got it to work was to reinstall AFTER I disabled onboard sound
[04:19] <Kyral> surely SOMEONE knows a better way though
[04:20] <parallax> I also get the following when I restart/start up alsa service
[04:20] <parallax> root@jabba:~# /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:20] <parallax>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                 [ ok ]  * Setting up ALSA...
[04:20] <parallax>  * /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'No state is present for card CMI8738MC6'.                                     [ ok ]
[04:20] <zAo^> Belutz, only in Breezy
[04:20] <paulproteus> parallax: esd
[04:20] <Kyral> Have you tried doing the ESD thing on the Forums?
[04:21] <parallax> when i start esd i get /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[04:21] <Belutz> zAo^: why only in breezy? hoary users need it too right?
[04:21] <abhayks> anyone tried hibernate in breezy ? my thinkpad simply refuses to power off
[04:21] <Kyral> Belutz, have you heard of the Backports
[04:21] <paulproteus> parallax: I think esd is already running on your system.
[04:22] <paulproteus> lsof /dev/dsp ?
[04:22] <Belutz> Kyral: yes, but i heard it's not good using backports
[04:22] <parallax> esd is not running
[04:22] <Kyral> and Thunderbird is still 1.0.6
[04:22] <Kyral> err
[04:22] <Kyral> 1.0.2
[04:22] <parallax> lsof /dev/dsp shows no results
[04:22] <zAo^> Belutz, isnt it in the backport repo?
[04:22] <Hoxzer> can I run many Gnome-dekstops like I can run many virtual consoles?
[04:22] <Belutz> zAo^: I disabled the backports repo
[04:22] <zAo^> Hoxzer, yes, you can
[04:22] <zAo^> Belutz, enable + apt-get update :)
[04:23] <Belutz> zAo^: is it safe?
[04:23] <Kyral> Backports is safe 99.9% of the time
[04:23] <Hoxzer> ;)
[04:23] <zAo^> yes it is. Dont worry :)
[04:23] <Kyral> is MirrorMax down again?
[04:23] <Belutz> zAo^ and Kyral : ok, i'll try it now :)
[04:23] <Kyral> Don't use the UbuntuForums Mirror!
[04:24] <Kyral> use MirrorMax, but its down...
[04:24] <Kyral> so like wait a couple hours :P
[04:24] <Kyral> and FF 1.0.6 is out of Backports as well
[04:25] <parallax> should the 'sound' module be loaded?
[04:25] <parallax> i have 'snd' but no 'sound'
[04:26] <humbolt> desrt: Is this method known to be save?
[04:26] <nalioth_zZz> my opinion for you folks: here in linux, upgrading your programs isnt as necessary as in windows.  there are some users who are still using older software (on their newer boxes) because it is stable.  This is not Windows, your behaviours here do not have to mirror your windows behaviours
[04:26] <Belutz> zAo^, Kyral : the latest in backport is 1.0.4? not 1.0.6 ?
[04:27] <Kyral> yah
[04:27] <Jugan> hi i need help
[04:27] <zAo^> donno; on Breezy here (1.0.6)
[04:27] <Kyral> Belutz, there was minor problems with the Extensions in 1.0.6
[04:27] <Jugan> i upgraded from warty to hoary, and there are two kernels installed 2.10 and 2.8...i wanted to remove 2.8...how do i do that?
[04:27] <Kyral> but I compiled it from Breezy myself and have no problems
[04:27] <Belutz> ic
[04:28] <pascalfr92> :msg nickserv identify cmmdpsn
[04:28] <Belutz> i thought 1.0.5 which has problems with extensions, so they release 1.0.6
[04:28] <Kyral> if you want to you need to change your deb-src entries to breezy
[04:28] <Kyral> then update
[04:28] <Belutz> Kyral: which one do you recommend, using 1.0.4 or 1.0.6 ?
[04:29] <Kyral> then use sudo apt-get build-dep firefox && sudo apt-get -b source firefox
[04:29] <Kyral> FF 1.0.6 works fine here
[04:29] <Chris_Tucker> whats the deb line to go in the sources.list for the multiverse
[04:29] <Chris_Tucker> ?
[04:30] <ValheruLord> hi all.... i installed kubuntu without any modems but then i plugged a modem via ethernet.. how can i config it... i want to add dhcp to start also
[04:30] <paulproteus> Whoa.  You mean a DSL modem, ValheruLord?
[04:30] <Kyral> Jugan, you have to apt-get remove the kernel package
[04:30] <paulproteus> Where I come from, modems are for dial-up Internet access.
[04:30] <Belutz> Kyral: could you give the full url of the breezy deb-src ?
[04:30] <paulproteus> So attaching a model via Ethernet makes no sense to me.
[04:30] <ValheruLord> paulproteus, yeah
[04:30] <ValheruLord> i wanna add dhcp to start
[04:30] <Chris_Tucker> whats the deb line to go in the sources.list for the multiverse?
[04:31] <Kyral> Belutz, just change the word hoary to breezy in your current deb-src lines
[04:31] <dawnfading> hi
[04:31] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: Join me in #flood
[04:31] <parallax> Chris_Tucker: see ubuntuguide.org
[04:31] <nalioth_zZz> Belutz: its the same as your hoary stuff in your sources.list, just change hoary to breezy
[04:31] <Belutz> ok
[04:31] <Discipulus> Paradoxx, don't give that url
[04:31] <dawnfading> has anyone installed the jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin java SDK?
[04:31] <nalioth_zZz> Belutz: but be careful which ones you change
[04:32] <oggah> anyone got ubuntu with gnome screenshots looking identical to mac os x, or even nicer :)
[04:32] <Belutz> which one should i change then?
[04:32] <Discipulus> Chris_Tucker, just add the word "multiverse" to the deb line
[04:32] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Use java-package, and it will install nicely.
[04:32] <Kyral> Belutz, the ones beginning with deb-src
[04:32] <Jugan> kyral: how do i know the name of the kernel package?  I dont wanna remove the current kernel by mistake...
[04:32] <Chris_Tucker> Discipulus, i dont think its that easy
[04:33] <Kyral> Jugan, using Synaptic?
[04:33] <nalioth> Belutz: if you are only after source, just the deb-src lines
[04:33] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Do you know what I'm talking about, or do you need further help?
[04:33] <Jugan> kyral:  ok, where does it belong? Which category?
[04:33] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Look at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 for more info.
[04:33] <Belutz> there are a lot lines begin with deb-src
[04:34] <dawnfading> paulproteus: ok
[04:34] <Kyral> Jugan, do a title search for linux
[04:35] <nalioth> Belutz: if i were you, i'd copy all the deb-src lines and change the words in the cloned line of text
[04:35] <Belutz> nalioth: ok :)
[04:35] <Kyral> Belutz, are you using a stock Source.list?
[04:35] <nalioth> Belutz: then when you are done, you can # the advanced lines out (until you are ready to totally upgrade)
[04:35] <Belutz> Kyral: yes...
[04:36] <Kyral> Then you should be okay to change all the deb-src
[04:36] <Kyral> and yes, running mixed hoary deb lines and breezy deb-src lines is fine
[04:36] <dawnfading> the instructions ask to "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin"
[04:37] <Kyral> dawnfading, then install fakeroot D:
[04:37] <dawnfading> but the file that i need (supposed) is the jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:37] <shellhack> I need some help my apt-get
[04:37] <desrt> humbolt; a couple of people i know have done it and it seemed to go fairly smoothly
[04:37] <shellhack> is busted
[04:37] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Use the .bin file you have.
[04:37] <Kyral> shellhack, in what way?
[04:37] <shellhack> someone know about it
[04:37] <desrt> humbolt; how 'safe' it is really depends on how good you are with linux
[04:38] <desrt> like, there will almost definitely be some small problems... but if you know what you're doing, you can fix them
[04:38] <Belutz> i guess i have to make use apt-get more often then synaptic
[04:38] <shellhack> kyral: it seems that the computer cannot connect with the port
[04:38] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Still need help, or did that get you to where you need to be?
[04:38] <Kyral> Shellhack, the backports mirrors by anychance?
[04:38] <shellhack> kiral: this is the error
[04:39] <shellhack> kyral: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:39] <shellhack> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[04:39] <shellhack> Reading package lists... Done
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:39] <Kyral> OKAY STOP!!
[04:39] <paulproteus> shellhack: Please stop pasting and flooding the channel.
[04:39] <shellhack> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:39] <paulproteus> shellhack: Please see the topic's mentioning of pasting.
[04:39] <Kyral> the us mirror is borked
[04:39] <dawnfading> ok it seems to be installing :-)
[04:39] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Hooray. :)
[04:39] <Kyral> delete the "us." part
[04:40] <dawnfading> thanks!
[04:40] <nalioth> guys, once you hit ctrl-v, it is done. there is no recalling the pasted text
[04:40] <Kyral> I know
[04:40] <Kyral> it just made me feel good
[04:40] <nalioth> shellhack: please do not paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin (from the topic)
[04:40] <mrproper> Does Horay have the ivtv drivers installed by default?
[04:40] <shellhack> kyral: ok I will try
[04:41] <dawnfading> oops, cheered to early
[04:41] <dawnfading> towards the end of the installation i get
[04:41] <dawnfading> mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/.java': Permission denied
[04:41] <dawnfading> and then a bunch of other permissions denied
[04:42] <dawnfading> and then abortion
[04:42] <Kyral> dawnfading, execute the command with sudo at the front :P
[04:42] <shellhack> kyral: its not work
[04:42] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Yeah, use sudo, sadly.
[04:42] <wijnand> i have an external usb cardreader and a SD-card reader built in to my laptop. Basically this should be a very similar device, but for some reason, it is not auto detected, whereas the external reader works like a charm... can anyone tell me why this is?
[04:42] <shellhack> kyral: continue showing it the same error
[04:43] <Kyral> shellhack, paste your sources.list into the Pastebin and I will take a look
[04:43] <paulproteus> wijnand: I've never seen someone's internal SD card reader work.  I don't know much about them, I'm afraid.
[04:43] <shellhack> how I do that?
[04:43] <sorush20> guys when I go to multimedia system slector, I click test and I cant hear any sounds...
[04:43] <wijnand> paulproteus: so they generally don't work? well at least that saves me the bother of trying i guess, thanks :)
[04:44] <dawnfading> You are real root -- unfortunately, some Java distributions have
[04:44] <dawnfading> install scripts that directly manipulate /etc, and may cause some
[04:44] <dawnfading> inconsistencies on your system. Instead, you should become a
[04:44] <dawnfading> non-root user and run:
[04:44] <dawnfading> fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:44] <shellhack> kyral: how I do that
[04:44] <dawnfading> which will allow no damage to be done to your system files and
[04:44] <dawnfading> still permit the Java distribution to successfully extract
[04:44] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Yeah, I was afraid of that.
[04:44] <paulproteus> You should download the latest java-package from Debian, then.
[04:44] <dawnfading> is it bad?
[04:44] <Kyral> shellhack, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:44] <paulproteus> dawnfading: It's just a bug in java-package.
[04:44] <nalioth> dawnfading: please dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic
[04:44] <dawnfading> ok
[04:44] <IFRFLYR> Strange problems. I've been experiencing weirdness in getting Firefox to display google, and thought it was a firestarter problem, but it is not. Today when I try to access google.com or any subdomain (like gmail) I get timeouts. On the Gentoo and Windows machines on the same network, saring the same connection, try, they get right through. Is there an IP tables issue here and can anyone steop me through troubleshooting it?
[04:45] <paulproteus> dawnfading: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=java-package - download the package file from there, do "sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb", and then try the fakeroot one again.
[04:45] <shellhack> kyral: I put that link in firefox?
[04:45] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Is the problem IPv6 DNS related?  See ubuntuguide and IPv6.
[04:45] <Kyral> shellhack: Yes
[04:45] <wijnand> IFRFLYR: you sure you're using identical dns servers?
[04:45] <IFRFLYR> wijnand, yes!
[04:45] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus, thanks will check there
[04:45] <wijnand> interesting
[04:46] <abbe80> I installed mysql using apt-get. Every time I reboot my computer, mysql starts. How can I stop this?
[04:46] <paulproteus> abbe80: update-rc.d is the program to stop that.
[04:46] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: hard to get to it because ... you guessed it: I cannot google "ubuntuguide and IPv6"
[04:46] <DuS> ayudaaaa please helppp
[04:46] <IFRFLYR> Can you give me a URL?
[04:46] <DuS> xD
[04:46] <dawnfading> i'll try that paulproteus
[04:46] <DuS> helpmeee please
[04:46] <DuS> spanishhh
[04:47] <IFRFLYR> DuS if you have a question ask it
[04:47] <shellhack> kyral: in the part where says name, I have to put your name or my name?
[04:47] <abbe80> thanks
[04:47] <Kyral> shellhack, I don't think you need to have to
[04:48] <DuS> como creo un servidor vcn??? spaol please not freak english
[04:48] <Kyral> DuS: #ubuntu-es
[04:49] <DuS> si eso ya lo se
[04:49] <DuS> pero kero sabes comos e crea vamos...
[04:49] <DuS> xD
[04:49] <IFRFLYR> DuS, english is the language spoken here. #ubuntu-es
[04:49] <DuS> a ok
[04:49] <shellhack> kyral: I did it, now what
[04:49] <DuS> me am new in ubuntu
[04:49] <DuS> here all freaks...
[04:49] <Kyral> shellhack, now paste the link to it here
[04:49] <Kyral> Freak?
[04:49] <din> DuS, is that even english?
[04:50] <Belutz> is there an #ubuntu-id ?
[04:50] <desrt> Belutz; there's a really easy way to find out
[04:50] <shellhack> kyral: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/761
[04:50] <DuS> friki!!!
[04:50] <Belutz> desrt: yup.. i try that... and no one there hehhe
[04:51] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: I've disabled ipv6 in about:config. No change.
[04:51] <IFRFLYR> Any other suggestion?
[04:51] <Kyral> shellhack, looks right
[04:52] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Does /sbin/ifconfig show any errors for the interface?
[04:52] <Hajuu> Hey uhm
[04:52] <paulproteus> Other than that, I'm out.
[04:52] <dawnfading> i still get the same error when i do fakeroot (permissions denied for creatin certain dirs) and using sudo also gives the same error
[04:52] <shellhack> kyral: if my problem isnt the source.list
[04:52] <Kyral> shellhack, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-hey update"
[04:52] <Kyral> err
[04:52] <Kyral> sudo apt-get update
[04:53] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: nope, it's humming along, and all other sites seem to work perfectly.
[04:53] <bur[n] er> anyone using breezy?
[04:53] <Hajuu> Someone told me to put something in my grub .lst file to get it to give me the option to boot to windows.. but when I try to use the menu item to boot to windows it says "Unknown file type"
[04:53] <IFRFLYR> it's *only* google and related sites
[04:53] <shellhack> kyral: is giving the same error
[04:53] <IFRFLYR> I'm considering /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and removing ipv6 there, is that what you were suggesting?
[04:53] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: u sure it's pointing to the right device and partition number?
[04:53] <Kyral> its working for me......
[04:54] <Kyral> shellhack, try my sources.list and see what happens
[04:54] <Kyral> aside from a lot of updates becoming available :P
[04:54] <paulproteus> dawnfading: I guess java-package doesn't support that JDK. Just run the .bin file as root (e.g., sudo that-file.bin), I guess.
[04:54] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: and would I need to restart networking after changing that aliases file?
[04:54] <shellhack> kyral: look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/762
[04:55] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: You'd want to make sure ipv6 isn't loaded into your kernel.
[04:55] <paulproteus> You should use reportbug to report this bug, dawnfading.
[04:55] <bur[n] er> anyone who's running breezy... can you do me a favor and run "xtightvncviewer -listen" from a term and tell me if it errors out or not?
[04:55] <Jugan> is it possible to have a video conference in ubuntu using GAIM?
[04:55] <bur[n] er> Jugan: no
[04:55] <mjr> Jugan, hmm, dunno about gaim, I hear there's a plugin, but at least it's possible with gnomemeeting
[04:55] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: can you be a bit more specific, I'm not following you
[04:55] <shellhack> kyral: ok
[04:55] <Jugan> is it possible to have a video conference in ubuntu using GAIM or other YAHOO-like messengers?
[04:55] <H00chster> So is Kubuntu AMD64 Breezy still kinda hosed, or is it safe to play with?  Last I read theere was some issues
[04:56] <Hajuu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,     missing codepage or other error     In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try     dmesg | tail  or so -- If I get that error when I try to mount my windows drive.. but my windows drive worked PERFECTLY before I made grub the default boot loader... what should I do?
[04:56] <shellhack> kyral: give me the link
[04:56] <Jugan> mjr:  i need a yahoo like messenger that can do video conference
[04:56] <paulproteus> H00chster: It's probably still broken, since Debian is broken in the same ways.
[04:56] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: u know grub uses hd1,0 to be the same as /dev/hdb1
[04:56] <Hajuu> yissir
[04:57] <bur[n] er> u can't even mount it from linux?
[04:57] <H00chster> paulproteus: Thanks for the reply, just wanted the later kernel etc, have problems compiling my own for some reason, mounts don't work.  guess I will wait hehe
[04:57] <Hajuu> bur[n] er:  I *used* to be able to.. till I made grub my boot loader windows used to load fine.
[04:57] <paulproteus> H00chster: You can get the kernel from Breezy by enabling breezy in deb-src ONLY , then doing apt-get source -b linux-image-whatever-is-in-breezy
[04:57] <dawnfading> mm too bad, i guess i can't run the bin, can't install it nomatter what
[04:57] <paulproteus> Or just downloading from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <paulproteus> sudo ./that-file.bin ?
[04:57] <paulproteus> dawnfading: See above.
[04:57] <Kyral> shellhack, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/763
[04:58] <Whorey> hello, dont suppose someone could help me out ?
[04:58] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: grub should honestly have no effect on mounting from linux
[04:58] <H00chster> paulproteus: Thanks will give that a try, dunno why vanilla doesn't work, but would assume with source made from that all should be fine, will give it a go.  Thanks again.
[04:58] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: can you please tell me what you meant about having ipv6 not load with the kernel? Am I accomplishing this by changing /etc/modpribe.d/aliases and restarting?
[04:58] <DuS> hi
[04:58] <Hajuu> bur[n] er:  No.. but I did it manually.. so it is quite possible that I screwed up my windows drive superblock or something
[04:58] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: what's your windows part in menu.lst look like?
[04:58] <DuS> how i can do a vcn server?
[04:58] <Hajuu> hang on ill show you
[04:59] <dawnfading> i get a sudo ./ command not found error
[04:59] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Yes.
[04:59] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: if you can't even mount it, I'm assuming it's a bigger problem
[04:59] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Do you know what kernel modules are and how they work?
[04:59] <Hajuu> title          Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[04:59] <Hajuu> root           (hd1,0)
[04:59] <Hajuu> savedefault
[04:59] <Hajuu> makeactive
[04:59] <Hajuu> chainloader    +1
[04:59] <paulproteus> iguanasan: Cool nick.
[04:59] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[04:59] <bur[n] er> does it show up?
[04:59] <Whorey> Im trying to get citadel to run, but i get problems with gmake not being availabe
[05:00] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: that looks fine and dandy for the grub entry
[05:00] <Hajuu> /dev/hdb1   *           1        1244     9992398+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:00] <iguanasan> Thanks
[05:00] <inull> hello
[05:00] <bur[n] er> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[05:00] <bur[n] er> try that?
[05:01] <iguanasan> Is there a fix for using gmailfs with ubuntu?
[05:01] <Hajuu> yep that worked
[05:01] <bur[n] er> well... first, I assume your fstab is wrong if mounting wasn't working before
[05:01] <bur[n] er> as for the booting problem... i'm not sure
[05:01] <bur[n] er> /etc/fstab == fstab file
[05:01] <inull> quick question for anyone in the know - I have a live cd for an ibook 800mhz, but it reports it cant find a screen
[05:01] <inull> any easy fix?
[05:02] <Hajuu> hm :(
[05:02] <paulproteus> Whorey: Install make
[05:02] <iguanasan> I get
[05:02] <wizo> lolx Internat
[05:02] <iguanasan> fusermount: old style mounting not supported
[05:02] <samu> whats wrong with firefox these days?
[05:02] <Whorey> anyone running citadel groupware o??
[05:02] <shellhack> kyral: look again http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/764
[05:02] <wizo> i men inull, i never got that thing solved
[05:02] <paulproteus> inull: Hmm, a hoary live CD?
[05:02] <bur[n] er> as a side note... that's a tiny windows partition... 1 gig?
[05:02] <MIK3MAN> hey people
[05:02] <Hajuu> no its 10 gig
[05:02] <Hajuu> :)
[05:02] <tritium> hello MIK3MAN
[05:02] <inull> yes it is paul
[05:03] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: not so much that I'd want to not hear what you're about to tell me ;)
[05:03] <Kyral> shellhack, it looks like an internal network problem
[05:03] <MIK3MAN> tritium: hows it going? I tried afew distros and came back to ubuntu :O)
[05:03] <bur[n] er> Hajuu: oh right ;) i can't count
[05:03] <shellhack> ok
[05:03] <keikoz> whiwh ? :o)
[05:03] <tritium> MIK3MAN, glad you're back :)
[05:03] <Hajuu> im going to try something
[05:03] <Hajuu> brb
[05:03] <keikoz> which *
[05:03] <shellhack> kyral: what can I do?
[05:04] <Kyral> shellhack, it looks like its trying to resolve it on YOUR machine, which isn't right.....
[05:04] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Oh, okay.  Loadable kernel modules are small pieces of binary code that match a kernel, things like drivers.
[05:04] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: I assume that they are chunks of code which do specific things, like help modprobe run certain interfaces with certain resources?
[05:04] <paulproteus> At any moment, you can run lsmod to see which ones are loaded.
[05:04] <paulproteus> Right.
[05:04] <IFRFLYR> Sorry, yes, listening:
[05:04] <IFRFLYR> Cool...
[05:04] <r0d> what package do i need for flash in firefox
[05:04] <paulproteus> r0d: Search in Synaptic for flash.
[05:05] <MIK3MAN> tritium: I actually installed Kbuntu, and I now have problems installing additional software, synaptic is replaced with Knaptic and I cant update the repositories. I need to do some research
[05:05] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Currently you probably have ipv6 loaded.  You probably can't remove it because it's in use.
[05:05] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus right, I see that when I lsmod | grep ipv6
[05:05] <paulproteus> If you really want, you can do 'rmmod -f ipv6', but that'll just yank the code out of the kernel with "unknown side-effects".
[05:05] <IFRFLYR> I follow.
[05:05] <MartenH> How do I specify an ip on an interface instead of using DHCP (in combination with wpa_supplicant)
[05:05] <tritium> MIK3MAN, have you asked in #kubuntu ?
[05:05] <IFRFLYR> SO what I have done is remove the ipv6 from the mod, now when I restart the machine, the kernel module will load without it, right?
[05:05] <MIK3MAN> tritium: no, I'll head there now :)
[05:05] <paulproteus> MartenH: man interfaces has an example, otherwise ask me to paste one from my /etc/network/interfaces in #flood
[05:06] <IFRFLYR> And there's no way to politely do it without a full reboot?
[05:06] <inull> so is there an issue with hoary and ibook 800's?
[05:06] <tritium> MIK3MAN, okay.  :)
[05:06] <Kyral> could someone help shellhack, I need to go shower
[05:06] <paulproteus> inull: Probably just the live cd; it's not very well-tested.
[05:06] <paulproteus> Erm, you aliased things so modprobe will load nothing when you tell it to load ipv6.
[05:06] <IFRFLYR> Ah, I see.
[05:06] <MartenH> paulproteus, ok, looking
[05:06] <inull> so avoid livecd's all together  or drop a release?
[05:07] <paulproteus> Now if you want, you can use the lower-level tool 'insmod' to load it - insmod always does exactly what you tell it to, for better or worse.
[05:07] <Hajuu> Heya
[05:07] <Hajuu> Got it working :)
[05:07] <paulproteus> inull: There aren't many good powerpc live CDs.  The powerpc install CD is fine, though.
[05:07] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: i see. No I don't trust myself enough yet!
[05:07] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: On boot, things like "hotplug" will modprobe what modules it thinks match what hardware you have.
[05:07] <IFRFLYR> So other than that  there's no way to politely get it out of there without a full reboot?
[05:07] <paulproteus> By default, it'll load ipv6.
[05:07] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: That's right.
[05:07] <IFRFLYR> Gotchya
[05:07] <inull> paulproteus: lol typical - had the choice of d/ling either and I chose live to test, lol
[05:07] <paulproteus> If you're going to reboot anyway, I'd log out, then drop to a text console, then rmmod -f ipv6.
[05:07] <paulproteus> Just to watch.
[05:07] <IFRFLYR> Thanks so very much for that help, paulproteus
[05:08] <IFRFLYR> I will do just that!
[05:08] <paulproteus> Then reboot gracefully if you can, and if not, then ungracefully.
[05:08] <paulproteus> Awesome. :)
[05:08] <IFRFLYR> see you . . .
[05:08] <paulproteus> Oh, uh, run 'sync' before doing the rmmod.
[05:08] <ValheruLord> paulproteus, my friend says it does'nt work
[05:08] <paulproteus> That'll sync your disk cache.
[05:08] <shellhack> I need help my port 4000 is blocked
[05:08] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: That's sad.  I have to finish an exam due in fifty minutes.
[05:08] <IFRFLYR> Great suggestion, thank you.
[05:08] <IFRFLYR> Much obliged
[05:08] <dawnfading> paulproteus, do you think it would be a solution to use an older version of the jdk-1_5 file?
[05:08] <paulproteus> dawnfading: Yes.
[05:09] <dawnfading> if so, is there a certain version  that is known to work
[05:09] <dawnfading> and where to find it?
[05:09] <Santzes> Can i somehow install VDR with Xine plugin? I added sources to sources.list like ubuntuguide described, but i can only find vdr and xine, not vdr-plugin-xine :(
[05:09] <ValheruLord> paulproteus, aha he said it says no write prmission to file.. he was'nt root :)) he is a lamer i will teach him
[05:10] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: "Lamer" is a bit harsh, but okay. :)
[05:10] <shellhack> kyra: its my port 4000
[05:10] <paulproteus> jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin works, dawnfading
[05:10] <paulproteus> Google for that and you should be able to use that.
[05:11] <paulproteus> I'm going to be busy for the next few hours, so goodbye all. :)
[05:11] <warty_> hi there
[05:11] <warty_> i need some help
[05:11] <Jugan> i have a question...is there a utility similar to CHKDSK in windows besides fsck?
[05:11] <warty_> can anyone help me please
[05:12] <paulproteus> Jugan: badblocks + fsck
[05:12] <sorush21> guys how do I find out where a package is... I'm trying to locate Java ... I installed it via sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and I test it java -version
[05:12] <Jugan> How do I fix/detect disk problems?
[05:12] <tritium> warty_, just ask.  Still having trouble with the hard disk?
[05:12] <warty_> i want to install ubuntu in my laptop
[05:12] <sorush21> Jugan, I think fsck runs automatically,
[05:12] <tritium> sorush21, dpkg -L <packagename> lists all the files in a package
[05:12] <warty_> this doesnt have cd rom
[05:12] <Jugan> paulproteus:  what's badblocks +fsck?  Is badblocks another command?
[05:12] <paulproteus> Jugan: Yes.
[05:12] <paulproteus> Sorry to be terse, busy right now.
[05:12] <warty_> just a usb port
[05:13] <hybrid> sorush21: it does
[05:13] <Jugan> ok, but is there a GUI disk checking utility?
[05:14] <hmrocha> hello, i need some help setting up apache
[05:15] <hmrocha> i don't have users in the machine i'm working on
[05:15] <_apollo2011_> How do I set a file so it can be executed by a normal user but have root access, so it can utilize the modem?
[05:15] <hmrocha> all users info is stored remotely with active directory
[05:15] <hmrocha> i can ssh to the machine with a user, it verifies in AD if the user exists, authenticates it, and logs in
[05:15] <sorush21> don't know... wait...
[05:16] <IFRFLYR> Well. Rebooted and now have no ipv6 loaded and *still* cannot reach google or its subsites with FF but *can* reach other sites, *and* can ping and get a reply from google.com and mail.google.com so I think it's not DNS.
[05:16] <hmrocha> how i can set up apache to lookup info in AD using LDAP
[05:16] <hmrocha> ?
[05:17] <bob2> I'd be looking at MTU issues before I blamed ipv6
[05:17] <IFRFLYR> bob2, can you tell me more please? MTU?
[05:17] <bob2> and at stupid-firewall issues, like thosethat block path-discover and please-fragment
[05:17] <bob2> IFRFLYR: are you using dsl with pppoe?
[05:17] <bob2> hmrocha: apt-cache search apache ldap
[05:17] <IFRFLYR> bob2, no software firewall running at the moment, and no, it's sharing the internet connection over the LAN with everyone else
[05:18] <bob2> then read the documentation that comes with it
[05:18] <sorush21> jagan, I was told there is no need to worry evey 20 reboots the computer does a error checking by itself.... and fsck disk runs...
[05:18] <sorush21> jagan, I was told there is no need to worry evey 20 reboots the computer does a error checking by itself.... and fsck disk runs...
[05:18] <bob2> hard reboots are going to corrupt your disk eventually, tho
[05:19] <IFRFLYR> bob2, re mtu - I am confused by the fact that it's *only* google which seems to be affected...
[05:20] <bob2> that could mean *only* google is behind some broken firewall
[05:20] <Hoxzer> can I somehow check what is my up/download speed?
[05:20] <IFRFLYR> Hnmn, But windows and gentoo machine on the same LAN can access it.
[05:20] <IFRFLYR> And if I surf to  <IP_ADDRESS> I can see it.
[05:20] <bob2> Hoxzer: download something
[05:20] <IFRFLYR> Which would suggest some kind of DNS issue on this ubuntu machine, no?
[05:21] <Hoxzer> Bob2: I mean my current upload/download speed
[05:21] <bob2> perhaps
[05:21] <Hoxzer> not how fast my internet is
[05:21] <bur[n] er> IFRFLYR: hosts file?
[05:21] <bob2> Hoxzer: I don't know what you mean then
[05:21] <IFRFLYR> Mmmm. lemme look if something's wacky there. . .
[05:21] <ValheruLord> paulproteus, why can not he write to interfaces file
[05:21] <bur[n] er> grep "something wacky" /etc/hosts
[05:21] <bur[n] er> :)
[05:22] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: sudo.
[05:22] <paulproteus> sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces
[05:22] <paulproteus> It's owned by root, so he has to use sod.
[05:22] <paulproteus> sudo.
[05:22] <IFRFLYR> bu[r] net, nothing weird in /etc/hosts - any other place I should look?
[05:22] <ValheruLord> it says there is no permission to write /etc/network/interfaces file.... and i am root !! why can that be??
[05:22] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: Root can do anything.
[05:22] <paulproteus> Clearly, you're not actually root.
[05:22] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: Try, please, "sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces" on that computer.
[05:23] <IFRFLYR> bu[r] ner, lol....okay I looked again and still nothing weird in /etc/hosts - any other place I should look?
[05:23] <dabaR> Hoxzer: your bandwidth is dependendent on whether you are still on your ISPs network when getting a file, or if you are oiff of it.
[05:23] <dabaR> Hoxzer: what is your ISP?
[05:23] <dabaR> o rwho even
[05:23] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: What about:
[05:24] <paulproteus> telnet www.google.com 80
[05:24] <sorush21> guys.. I have removed the Java Run time environment.... I would like to install it again...
[05:24] <paulproteus> ValheruLord: Does that work?
[05:24] <bur[n] er> IFRFLYR: nothing i can think of
[05:24] <bur[n] er> IFRFLYR: you have same dns as your gentoo machine?
[05:24] <tritium> sorush21, I would advise you to use java-package to build your own .deb from Sun's .bin installer
[05:24] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: nick@un1-dosa:~$ telnet www.google.com:80
[05:24] <IFRFLYR> telnet: could not resolve www.google.com:80/telnet: Name or service not known
[05:24] <bur[n] er> ping google.com?
[05:24] <dawnfading> paulproteus, just tried  installing the jdk-1_5_0, but the same issues remain
[05:24] <paulproteus> telnet www.google.com 80
[05:24] <bur[n] er> is only port 80 being blocked
[05:24] <ValheruLord> paulproteus,  wait it is my friens poroblem
[05:24] <bur[n] er> IFRFLYR: ping google.com
[05:24] <tritium> dawnfading, did you use java-package?
[05:24] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Space, not colonl
[05:24] <bur[n] er> any results?
[05:24] <paulproteus> colon.
[05:25] <IFRFLYR> that works... nick@un1-dosa:~$ ping www.google.com
[05:25] <IFRFLYR> PING www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[05:25] <IFRFLYR> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=237 time=49.5 ms
[05:25] <bur[n] er> firewall is blocking port 80 I'd assume
[05:25] <bur[n] er> er..
[05:25] <bur[n] er> is that ip the google ip?
[05:25] <bur[n] er> if you type in http://<IP_ADDRESS> in your web browser?
[05:25] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Space, not colon, in the telnet command.
[05:25] <sorush21> tritium how do i do that.. could you run the codes byme again..
[05:26] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: sory, will do
[05:26] <bur[n] er> yeah... looks like google IP here... your dns is fine
[05:26] <bur[n] er> looks like a firewall/routing issue to me
[05:26] <bur[n] er> only port 80 is being stopped
[05:26] <bur[n] er> only to google.. heh, odd
[05:26] <tritium> ubotu, tell sorush21 about java
[05:26] <bur[n] er> on that note, time to work
[05:26] <bur[n] er> see ya
[05:26] <dabaR> ya
[05:29] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Well? :)
[05:29] <paulproteus> Can you type "GET /" in that telnet?
[05:29] <IFRFLYR> bur[n] er: times out
[05:29] <polli> Hey, I got a problem with the xlibs package, it fails "Preparing to replace xlibs 6.8.2-41 (using .../xlibs_6.8.2-43_all.deb) ...
[05:29] <IFRFLYR> paulproteus: nick@un1-dosa:~$ telnet www.google.com 80
[05:29] <IFRFLYR> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[05:29] <polli> rmdir: `/etc/X11/xkb/rules': Directory not empty
[05:29] <polli> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.8.2-43_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:29] <IFRFLYR> then it times out
[05:29] <polli>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:29] <IFRFLYR> sorry for the delay
[05:29] <polli> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:29] <polli>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.8.2-43_all.deb
[05:29] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: No problem.
[05:29] <polli> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[05:29] <paulproteus> polli: See the note about breezy in the topic. :)
[05:30] <polli> paulproteus: :p
[05:30] <dabaR> also see the note about pasting
[05:30] <paulproteus> IFRFLYR: Then it's official.    I'm going to class now. :)
[05:30] <IFRFLYR> So wht can I do about it!
[05:30] <IFRFLYR> ?
[05:31] <Belutz> firefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 is 40.2MB ???
[05:31] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: router?
[05:31] <ed1t> Belutz its broken
[05:32] <dabaR> Belutz: there is a firefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1???
[05:32] <IFRFLYR> dabaR: I would think so but all the other boxes on the LAN *Can* get to and from google.
[05:32] <Belutz> its broken????
[05:32] <IFRFLYR> It's *just* the ubuntu box
[05:32] <Belutz> someone told me it works fine!!
[05:32] <ed1t> Belutz read the topic
[05:32] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: you have a router, right. How about a firewall?
[05:32] <r0d> Belutz, where did you get that file. i downloaded src from firefox site.
[05:32] <IFRFLYR> dabaR: software firewall is off on ubuntu box
[05:32] <Belutz> r0d: from breezy
[05:32] <ed1t> the official FF package is broken
[05:32] <r0d> ah
[05:32] <IFRFLYR> NAT firewall on router on, but as I say, all other machines have no worries getting out
[05:33] <djg> Anyone else having problems with locales today?
[05:33] <ed1t> wait till it gets fixed
[05:33] <IFRFLYR> and on ubuntu it's ONLY google
[05:33] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: ok well, that is not it. GO to the router interface, and check everything.
[05:33] <dylan> hi everyone ;)
[05:33] <dylan> which browser is faster/better:  epiphany or firefox?
[05:33] <r0d> flash must be broken in firefox 1.2 every time i clicki on  flash animation. the browser closes
[05:33] <dabaR> Another thing to test if its the rotuer is to connect ubuntu directly to the modem, poweer cycle, and get online to see if you can port 80 that way
[05:33] <dabaR> that way you know if its the comp or routetr./
[05:33] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: that is it, only google?
[05:34] <Belutz> why everything is broken? :(
[05:34] <IFRFLYR> dabaR, yes, ONLY google
[05:34] <dabaR> bah
[05:34] <IFRFLYR> I agree!
[05:34] <dabaR> welll, your firewall is blocking google, imho
[05:34] <IFRFLYR> Because it's *only* google and *only*& on this box.
[05:34] <tritium> Belutz, everything?
[05:35] <IFRFLYR> if that were true, dabaR, then it would block the other machines accessing google through the same firewall, iMho
[05:35] <Belutz> tritium: not everything in ubuntu... but everything that i use... hahahaha
[05:35] <dabaR> Belutz: its ok, its broken to grow back into a beautiful shape.
[05:35] <tritium> ;)
[05:35] <dylan> does anybody know which browser is faster between epiphany or firefox?
[05:35] <IFRFLYR> I suspect, still, DNS. because nick@un1-dosa:~$ ping www.google.com
[05:35] <IFRFLYR> PING www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=237 time=49.5 ms
[05:36] <djg> So, anyone having problems with locales, or is it just me?
[05:36] <Belutz> tritium: yesterday i have to install apache and php from source, because using the package, the php is automatically compiled with --without-mysql :(
[05:36] <djg> dylan: Try them and see!
[05:36] <Hajuu> hi! I don't suppose there is anyone really good with Blender! in here is there?
[05:36] <dylan> ok
[05:36] <Belutz> dabaR: yes... hope so... but i won't turn my back from ubuntu that's for sure... hehehe
[05:36] <tritium> Belutz, what about the "php4-mysql" package?  Doesn't that work?
[05:36] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: dns would not allow you to teranslate to 74...from www.google.com
[05:36] <justizz> i'm newbie with linux and ubuntu...
[05:36] <justizz> how can i restart X ? :o
[05:37] <Belutz> tritium: that doesn't work, i also try php5-mysql
[05:37] <tritium> Belutz, really?  odd...
[05:37] <IFRFLYR> Right, dabaR are you still convinced it's firewall, despite other machines on the LAN getting out to google>
[05:37] <ValheruLord> when trying to grub-install hda The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly wtf is this?
[05:37] <djg> justizz: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:37] <IFRFLYR> justizz, simultaneously hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is the rude way; selecting System -> Log Out is the polite way
[05:37] <justizz> rgr :)
[05:37] <justizz> xD
[05:38] <dabaR> ya, not router firewall, but on ubuntu. check out connecting directly to the modem to determine.
[05:38] <justizz> thx for help
[05:38] <IFRFLYR> np justizz
[05:38] <BiSK-8> 'lo
[05:38] <Belutz> tritium: hmm after i finish my project, i'll try to install it again from the packages... just because i'm too curious... and i compile from source, because i have no time to figure out what's wrong with the packages :D
[05:38] <djg> justizz: or /etc/init.d/xorg-common restart
[05:38] <IFRFLYR> dabar, not a possibility here.
[05:38] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me a good laptop with a amd processor?
[05:38] <tritium> Belutz, yeah, sounds suspicious to me.  php4-mysql should work
[05:38] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: well, youll never know...:) I mean, remove iptables.
[05:38] <IFRFLYR> How can I determine whether ubuntu firewall is ruinning? I use firestarter and it is OFF
[05:38] <Belutz> BiSK-8: Acer Ferarri edition? :)
[05:39] <IFRFLYR> AH, yes, dabaR, that's what I'd like to try - can you help me please?
[05:39] <BiSK-8> acer ferrari???
[05:39] <djg> Belutz: Evil
[05:39] <BiSK-8> does it have amd64?
[05:39] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: well, sudo aptitude remove iptables, not sure if that is allowed.
[05:39] <Belutz> tritium: the odd thing is that phpmyadmin can work, while the php show undefined function for mysql_connect()
[05:39] <IFRFLYR> aptitude?
[05:39] <dabaR> front end to apt-get
[05:39] <Belutz> BiSK-8: yup, AMD 64 Turion
[05:39] <mbirkis> IFRFLYR: service iptables stop
[05:40] <IFRFLYR> mbirkis, thank you!
[05:40] <dabaR> ya do that.
[05:40] <Belutz> BiSK-8: with ATI X-700 128MB
[05:40] <djg> Belutz: Make sure mysql.so is enabled in php.ini
[05:40] <BiSK-8> and what abt ram?
[05:40] <Belutz> djg: already
[05:40] <djg> Belutz: Restarted Apache?
[05:40] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: does that work?
[05:40] <IFRFLYR> mbirkis, actually....Hmmm. sudo service iptables stop gets me "service: command not found
[05:40] <Belutz> djg: i also restarted my comp
[05:40] <BiSK-8> belutz, how many mb ram?
[05:40] <chaps0063> if I want to install Skype, can I use the deb package on their site?
[05:41] <Belutz> BiSK-8: i think it's 512MB or 1GB
[05:41] <BiSK-8> wow
[05:41] <humbolt> if I have sarge, and make it an ubuntu with apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; apt-get dist-upgrade, will I end up with a working fully featured ubuntu system?
[05:41] <BiSK-8> and what abt cost?
[05:41] <Belutz> BiSK-8: it's around $2300 in here (Indonesia)
[05:41] <mbirkis> IFRFLYR: hmm... maybe i am mixing distros... lol... try: sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop
[05:41] <dabaR> iptables --list
[05:41] <dabaR> just list it
[05:41] <dabaR> in fact, to see if there is any rule about it.
[05:41] <IFRFLYR> mbirkis and dabaR: okay. . .  .
[05:41] <BiSK-8> and what abt 1 that costs less?
[05:42] <IFRFLYR> ah....I see i'll need a grep in there, too!
[05:42] <Belutz> BiSK-8: why do you want AMD in a laptop?
[05:42] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: maybne you can stop it then.
[05:42] <Belutz> tritium: is it safe to upgrade from backport?
[05:43] <IFRFLYR> mbirkis and dabaR: Grrrrrrr! It's set to ACCEPT anything from 72.14.207.* which is pretty frustrating since that's what's being stopped!
[05:43] <dabaR> haha
[05:43] <IFRFLYR> :)
[05:43] <dabaR> well, just accept?
[05:43] <dylan> how can i get beep media player to play mpg files?
[05:43] <dabaR> only one line?
[05:43] <Chris_Tucker> woot! my shipit cds came in today
[05:44] <dabaR> dylan: does bmp play video?
[05:44] <Raptoid> hi everboys
[05:44] <dabaR> Chris_Tucker: nice.
[05:44] <IFRFLYR> dabaR, it's three lines with the google IP addresses, all like this:
[05:44] <IFRFLYR> ACCEPT     all  --  <IP_ADDRESS>         anywhere
[05:44] <Belutz> Chris_Tucker: my shipit doesn't arrived yet :(
[05:44] <dabaR> Raptoid: hey everboy
[05:44] <Raptoid> grub-install /dev/hda
[05:44] <dabaR> pah
[05:44] <Raptoid> ./boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[05:44] <Raptoid> help me
[05:44] <Raptoid> grub-install /dev/hda
[05:44] <Raptoid> ./boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[05:44] <Raptoid> ?
[05:44] <dabaR> why install it?
[05:45] <Chris_Tucker> someone who knows nothing about linux was intreiged and intrested just because there were so many cds, they want me to set them up ^_^
[05:45] <tritium> Belutz, sorry, I haven't used backports.    I'll be away for a while, but I'll be back later.
[05:45] <Belutz> tritium: ok :)
[05:46] <patrickj> back
[05:47] <ValheruLord> paulproteus, he made with sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces but he s taking the error: it is a directrory not a file
[05:47] <BiSK-8> belutz, to work and play
[05:47] <dylan> i dont know if bmp plays video
[05:47] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know an easy way to get and install a driver for an ESS card ES1869?
[05:47] <dylan> so is xmms better than beep?
[05:47] <patrickj> \lemme check, its open right now
[05:48] <IFRFLYR> dabaR, just checking - did you mean you were going to come back to me with a suggestion?
[05:48] <sorush20> guys...how do I test if java is running...
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> sorush20, go to a java enabled website
[05:49] <patrickj> type Java -version
[05:49] <dabaR> IFRFLYR: ya, but I have none. Remove iptables or stop the service,
[05:49] <Chris_Tucker> sorush20, or get limewire
[05:49] <dylan> xmms or beep?
[05:49] <Raptoid> grub-install /dev/hda
[05:49] <Raptoid> grub its flying.
[05:49] <Raptoid> ./boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[05:49] <IFRFLYR> dabaR, thanks. I appreciate it. I'll eat something an try again in a bit!
[05:49] <Egg098> what would you guys recommend as a decent WMP (library)-style media player?
[05:49] <patrickj> sorush20: type java -version in a console
[05:49] <dabaR> mbirkis: both commands you gave so far dont work.
[05:49] <patrickj> *terminal
[05:50] <dabaR> hah, I was about to type him an answer
[05:51] <ValheruLord> it says /etc/network/interfaces is a direcory paulproteus
[05:51] <dabaR> Raptoid: is there a reason you are installing grub?
[05:51] <blkdomini> hi all
[05:51] <blkdomini> is it possibile to burn .img file with k3b?
[05:51] <dabaR> Raptoid: also try /dev/hda0
[05:51] <dabaR> is there hda0 or its starts at 1
[05:51] <blkdomini> because k3d don't see .img and .ccd file
[05:52] <patrickj> yes, first question I answered in here :D
[05:52] <patrickj> lol brb, breakfast
[05:52] <dabaR> Raptoid: replace the /dev/hda with /dev/hda1
[05:53] <ValheruLord> my comp. has operating systems but my bootloader is broken.... how can i install grub and make it see my previously installed os'es without installing a new os ???
[05:53] <BiSK-8> which amd64 processor is the most powerful?
[05:53] <patrickj> back
[05:53] <patrickj> BiSK-8 Opteron
[05:53] <dabaR> Raptoid: you better read my solution after pasting yoru error here 10 times.
[05:53] <BiSK-8> ok
[05:53] <patrickj> BiSK-8: but its meant for server and big workstations
[05:54] <patrickj> BiSK-8: what kind of computer are you trying to build(if you are doing that)?
[05:54] <BiSK-8> ok
[05:54] <enyc> Valh... first, you need to boot linux from your hard-disk... using the bootable install-cd/disk for your distribution ;-)
[05:54] <BiSK-8> and for a jumpstart server
[05:54] <dabaR> patrickj: when tyou start typing, we assume you are not somewhere other than in front of your computer, or up to 10 metgers away fronm your computer using bluetooth and viewing this on a big screen, no need to say back.
[05:54] <patrickj> ok lol
[05:54] <patrickj> dabaR: good point
[05:54] <Hoxzer> can I somehow check what is my current upload speed?
[05:54] <dabaR> Hoxzer: I told you.
[05:55] <enyc> valh: i.e. boot the install-cd/disk and boot the kernel image with parameter "root=[device] " where [device]  is the hard disk device etc and get into yoru linux system ;-)
[05:55] <enyc> valh: are you able to boot into linux etc. at all?
[05:55] <dabaR> Hoxzer: your bandwidth is dependendent on whether you are still on your ISPs network when getting a file, or if you are oiff of it.
[05:55] <patrickj> Linux is the best...:d
[05:55] <dabaR> Hoxzer: what is your ISP?
[05:55] <Hoxzer> Sonera (finland)
[05:56] <dabaR> Hoxzer: do they provide online storage space?
[05:57] <Hoxzer> DabaR: I dont think so
[05:57] <Hoxzer> I already have some storage space from other provider
[05:58] <Therx> just a quit Q, how do you get into a bog standard console? i.e. close X (not permanently - just for a session)
[05:59] <Egg098> you mean Applicationa --> System Tools --> Terminal ?
[05:59] <Egg098> -a+s
[05:59] <patrickj> whats the best MSN Messenger implementation on Linux?
[05:59] <dabaR> Hoxzer: acn you tell me more about what exactly you are tryiong o measure?
[05:59] <Therx> no, a terminal without X running
[05:59] <dabaR> patrickj: well, ask synaptic.
[05:59] <Therx> (text mode)
[06:00] <dabaR> Therx: alt+ctrl+f1
[06:00] <dylan> i get the error from mplayer   New_Face failed.  Maybe the font path is wrong.  Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf) .   What is this?
[06:00] <patrickj> is there a packge for xnumlock on the repo?
[06:00] <Curlydave> hi
[06:00] <patrickj> and I think aMSN might be good :d
[06:00] <Curlydave> does anyone here know if theres a way to play songs from a windows HD
[06:00] <Therx> thx dabaR
[06:00] <Curlydave> I don't want to ohave to keep updating box HDs
[06:01] <tuxJr_14> hi
[06:01] <Egg098> Curlydave, you can get at Windows HDDs by mounting them
[06:01] <tuxJr_14> Curlydave, do you want to copy songs and play or just play?
[06:01] <Curlydave> but is there a way to get music player to play form the mounted hd
[06:01] <Curlydave> just play them
[06:01] <Curlydave> copying them's too hard as I get new songs often
[06:02] <AlexMBas> how do I downgrade a package with apt withou uninstalling other software?
[06:02] <chaps0063> does anyone have Skype installed?
[06:02] <AlexMBas> chaps0063:  I do
[06:03] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know an easy way to get and install a driver for an ESS card ES1869?
[06:03] <patrickj> meh Gaim's better
[06:03] <chaps0063> AlexMBas: just ran the install from skype.com?
[06:03] <AlexMBas> yeah
[06:03] <isai> have a 40min. mp3. want to chop off a few minutes at the end. what apps can do this?
[06:03] <chaps0063> AlexMBas: what is the command to run a .deb package?
[06:03] <AlexMBas> but had to isntall some qt libraries
[06:03] <AlexMBas> dpkg -i package.deb
[06:03] <chaps0063> AlexMBas: do you remember what qt libraries you had to install?
[06:03] <Curlydave> hey, can anyone refresh me on the command to mount a windows HD?
[06:04] <Curlydave> i have it set up, i just need the command to mount it
[06:04] <dabaR> !mountwindows
[06:04] <ubotu> methinks mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:04] <Curlydave> sudo mount /sda1 or something like that
[06:04] <roo_> Curlydave, have you entered the details into /etc/fstab ?
[06:04] <roo_> Curlydave, if so, "mount -a" should do it.
[06:04] <isai> curlydave: mount -t auto /dev/hdaXX /mnt/win
[06:04] <Curlydave> ohh ty
[06:04] <dylan> can rhythmbox play video?
[06:04] <Curlydave> the prob was i need /dev
[06:04] <roo_> dylan, no.
[06:04] <dabaR> now. patrickj when in doubt if there is a package, try /msg ubotu info packagename
[06:04] <hybrid> anyone have an ati all-in-wonder workin in ubuntu
[06:04] <Curlydave> it's sudo mount /dev/sda1
[06:04] <Curlydave> ty~
[06:05] <dylan> can xine play audio?
[06:05] <roo_> dylan, yes
[06:05] <dabaR> dylan: what are you trying to play(not the name, just the extension please;)
[06:05] <dylan> im trying to play everything that Windows Media Player can
[06:06] <roo_> dylan, in one app?
[06:06] <dylan> yes
[06:06] <roo_> dylan, why?
[06:06] <dabaR> dylan: that piece of crap cant play sh. Dont tell me that is what you used on windows? I always used VLC.
[06:06] <hybrid> try muine
[06:06] <dylan> vlc?
[06:06] <tuxJr_14> do i lose my data if i change the partition type of a partition using fdisk? just the type?
[06:06] <dylan> muine?
[06:06] <roo_> dylan, VLC is available for linux.
[06:06] <patrickj> how can I get firefox 1.05?
[06:06] <roo_> tuxJr_14, yes, its almost certan u will.
[06:06] <dylan> vlc plays both audio and video?
[06:07] <hybrid> dylan: you can use muine; vlc; mplayer
[06:07] <roo_> dylan, yep.
[06:07] <dylan> thanks!
[06:07] <dabaR> muine, xine, mplayer, totem-xine all good places to start. Also, /msg ubotu restricted
[06:07] <hybrid> yes it can
[06:07] <dylan> mplayer gave me odd errors about fonts
[06:07] <tuxJr_14> roo_, bwaahaaa!!!!! :'(
[06:07] <patrickj> hey I used VLC when I was using Windows for watching family guy episodes :D