[00:00] <daftykins> kernel removes are pretty intensive
[00:00] <X13> maxreports keep reporting full
[00:00] <harris> hi how do i turn off the power saving thing in that file from terminal
[00:00] <nn7> is there a way to switch out of the GUI on the live CD without rebooting?
[00:00] <nn7> ctrl-alt-f1 isn't working
[00:02] <daftykins> nn7: you'd be kinda stuck using it if you can't get to a TTY ;)
[00:02] <daftykins> back shortly.
[00:02] <sduncan> anyone with macbook pro seen something along the lines of this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: "Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist, 0)". I've been trying to get 12.04 running on this mbp 6,2 for days now.
[00:03] <nn7> I'm having so many difficulties with the GUI
[00:03] <sduncan> fwiw, the nouveau driver worked
[00:03] <nn7> it's moving at about 3 FPS
[00:03] <Micdisc> sduncan what if you try the new version of ubuntu?
[00:03] <nn7> clicking on things usually doesn't work
[00:03] <ScoobyDoo> Hi all, I am wondering what I might need to get "certified" with Ubuntu? I am reading a job listing and they require Ubuntu certification .  I rebooted the server, initially with the eth cord disconnected, and now it's acting fine
[00:03] <IdleOne> !language | nn7
[00:03] <ScoobyDoo> nn7 control-alt T
[00:03] <b14d3> The server = my Ubuntu box
[00:03] <sduncan> Micdisc at this point I suppose it would be worth a shot. but i've heard others have nvidia_current running just fine on 12.04
[00:04] <nn7> I'm stuck with the "Terminal" with "Uninstall" and "Launch" buttons, the launch just keeps blinking at me. ctrl-alt T does nothing
[00:05] <Micdisc> Anyone know where to get a decent laptop to Ubuntu without spending a bunch? used would be fine as well
[00:07] <stufffyy> does anyone have any experience with iwlwifi?
[00:07] <X13> daftykins: seems to be kinda clearing up. Finally started the rest of the clean up.
[00:07] <ni638629> can I have help
[00:08] <hi> help?
[00:08] <stufffyy> does anyone have any experience with iwlwifi?
[00:08] <antman> help
[00:08] <daftykins> antman: ask away if you have a problem
[00:08] <antman> how do I make irc bots to. boot an ip?
[00:09] <antman> ./shellcmd (ip)(port)
[00:09] <harris> hi how do i turn off the power saving thing in that file from terminal
[00:09] <antman> ?
[00:09] <antman> how do I DDoS on irc
[00:10] <RileyGuy> Hello, I am having problems with blueman bluetooth manager and pulseaudio not liking eachother
[00:10] <RileyGuy> Think anyone can help me?
[00:11] <daftykins> X13: ace. the -f install bit?
[00:12] <harris> my computer keeps poping
[00:12] <X13> daftykins: finished do what now... -f install?
[00:12] <ben941> hey can anyone help me with some basic concept questions about SnapRAID + Greyhole?
[00:12] <ben941> no one replies in the greyhole channel and i'm fairly new to linux/ubuntu
[00:13] <antman> help
[00:13] <daftykins> X13: 'sudo apt-get -f install' yeah
[00:13] <daftykins> antman: please go away
[00:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, im not familiar with either
[00:13] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:13] <ben941> I *think* I have Snapraid set up correctly
[00:13] <X13> daftykins: kk doing now
[00:13] <ben941> it is just a snapshot raid
[00:13] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:13] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:14] <ben941> using the largest disk for parity
[00:14] <antman> how do I udp flood
[00:14] <ben941> but you've  never heard of Greyhole for storage pooling?
[00:14] <X13> daftykins: it told me to do auto remove
[00:14] <IdleOne> antman: not by flooding this channel.
[00:14] <ubuntuaddicted> antman, please stay on topic. this is an ubuntu help channel
[00:14] <stufffyy> does anyone know where the CONFIG_FW_LOADER file is?
[00:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, nope, never heard of either
[00:15] <ben941> They are basically opensource alternatives to options like unraid - allowing you to add to the raid/pool as you go and mix and match different drive sizes
[00:15] <ben941> well darn
[00:15] <ubuntuaddicted> stufffyy, sudo find / -name CONFIG_FW_LOADER
[00:15] <ben941> i hope someone shows up in the greyhole channel
[00:15] <daftykins> ben941: sounds like the worst idea ever.
[00:15] <ben941> why is that?
[00:15] <SineTheCreator`> hi all. on the ubuntu site there is an icon for an alternative browser that is a dog paw with 'du' inside the logo
[00:15] <mega1> i have ubuntu 11.10 connect to windows 2008 ad and i can logon how do i get it to get logon script from ad
[00:15] <daftykins> X13: ja i was gonna recommend that, but no biggy for now
[00:15] <X13> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/RwQCze1x
[00:15] <SineTheCreator`> what browser is this?
[00:16] <X13> daftykins: i tried and it failed
[00:16] <SineTheCreator`> nevermind, it's baidu
[00:16] <daftykins> ben941: have you used other RAID implementations before? hardware and software based?
[00:16] <harris> i need to turn off power saving
[00:16] <harris> how
[00:16] <stufffyy> ubuntuaddicted: thks
[00:16] <ben941> if you look up raid alternatives you are bound to find unraid, freenas, and snapraid listed as free option
[00:16] <daftykins> X13: ah you forgot sudo :)
[00:16] <ben941> daftykins: yes I have a raid 5 running on my windows machine now
[00:16] <X13> opps
[00:17] <daftykins> ben941: software or hardware controller based?
[00:17] <ubuntuaddicted> stufffyy, i've heard of uNraid
[00:17] <X13> daftykins: lol silly me anything else I should do?
[00:17] <ben941> daftykins: hardware but not dedicated card - motherboard firmware AMD sb750
[00:18] <daftykins> X13: err, if the -f install completed fine, i'd do a final "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be happy, then do a clean boot into the newest installed kernel
[00:18] <ben941> daftykins: 3x 750GB WD Green drives in raid 5 for 1.5GB space total
[00:18] <X13> Clean boot?
[00:18] <daftykins> ugh 3 disk RAID 5 :(
[00:18] <riddrib> god
[00:18] <daftykins> X13: ja just a restart
[00:18] <ben941> daftykins: better than any other options if I wanted redundancy
[00:19] <ubuntuaddicted> 1.5GB total space? lol
[00:19] <daftykins> ben941: a friend runs ZFS, it sounds great
[00:19] <X13> daftykins: ok cool
[00:19] <mega1> does anyone know how to get a logon script from active directory
[00:19] <daftykins> ben941: my first was a 8 x 250GB RAID 5 on a 3ware controller for 1.75TB useable, latest is 6 x 1TB RAID 5. i've also put together a 8 x 2TB RAID 6
[00:20] <daftykins> all on 3ware controllers. i love them ;x
[00:20] <ben941> daftykins: right now i've already started setting up an old intel dual core w/ 3gb ram as a webserver/NAS box,   ZFS was too high above my head for someone new to unix/linux style OS
[00:20] <daftykins> yeah, ZFS does sound like a headf*** when it's time to debug
[00:20] <daftykins> RAID5 is just nicer on >6 disks
[00:21] <ubuntuaddicted> my largest drive is only a 1TB
[00:21] <WeThePeople> how do i look at pid in terminal
[00:21] <WeThePeople> what command
[00:21] <ben941> daftykins: I'd love to have that kind of money - getting my fakeraid Highpoint RocketRaid 622 card to even work with Ubuntu versions past 3.0 required modifying the build code myself.... horrible support for their cards despite claiming to be compatible with linux =/    unfortunately it came with my Hard drive cage and free was free
[00:21] <ubuntuaddicted> i've considered uNraid because I have all different size disks but you have to pay when you hagve more then 3 disks i think
[00:21] <ben941> exactly what ubuntuaddicted said
[00:21] <th0r> WeThePeople: ps ?
[00:22] <ben941> Is why I went with SnapRAID
[00:22] <ubuntuaddicted> WeThePeople, ps
[00:22] <ben941> this is just a home server...
[00:22] <daftykins> ben941: =[
[00:22] <daftykins> my 5TB is almost full sadly
[00:22] <daftykins> but i can't be bothered to drop another grand on disks
[00:22] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, my trouble is going to be copying all my info from my scarttered drives to a RAID server once I set one up, it'll take forever over NFS
[00:23] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, WOW, 5TB worth of files? what, ripped blu rays?
[00:23] <ben941> it now has 3x 3TB drives, 2 WD Green and 1 WD Red...  the Red is set up as the Parity Drive.     I will be adding the 3x 750GB WD Green drives and a few other extra drives ~500GB WD Cavier to the array once i get it set up
[00:23] <daftykins> ubuntuaddicted: a few TB of TV, few of film ja
[00:23] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, recorded yourself or torrented?
[00:24] <ben941> it is this mix and match of drives that made me go with SnapRAID... that an other solutions for mixing and matching different drive types and sizes are not free or limit your drive numbers to 3 max (unraid)
[00:24] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, cause i use mythtv and love it
[00:24] <ubuntuaddicted> whats the smallest hdd you guys have seen?
[00:25] <ubuntuaddicted> i want to check approx ages here. heheh
[00:25] <daftykins> haha
[00:25] <daftykins> well i grew up with pre-HDD systems
[00:25] <ben941> ubuntuaddicted:  my use of plex server and complete abandon for my cable box recently is why I have gone this route to set up a homebuilt mediaserver/NAS in the first place :)    I installed sickbeard and couchpotato but have not set it up -  when I can afford a tuner card I might look into MythTV
[00:25] <daftykins> but i think one of the apricots had a 40MB magnetic tape reel based drive
[00:25] <ben941> 500MB
[00:25] <WeThePeople> ubuntuaddicted, 6 mb
[00:25] <ben941> oh well if you talk magnetic tape...
[00:26] <ubuntuaddicted> WeThePeople, wow man, thats tiny
[00:26] <WeThePeople> ubuntuaddicted, its ps -ef
[00:26] <ben941> but I was only like 8 max then, in the reel storage room at the hospital my dad did IT work for
[00:26] <ben941> noisy rooms
[00:26] <ubuntuaddicted> im talking hard DISK drives, platter
[00:27] <ben941> I believe < 50MB - an old laptop from FDIC back in the mid 90s
[00:27] <ubuntuaddicted> my father purchased a macintosh plus and it didn't even come with a hard drive. lol
[00:27] <ben941> mother has worked for FDIC for a long while
[00:27] <ubuntuaddicted> i'm asking that you guys have actually worked with yourself.
[00:27] <ben941> it was something like 16mb, and odd number
[00:28] <ubuntuaddicted> me, it was a 4GB hard drive that came in a hitachi visionbook plus laptop, i swapped it out for a 10GB and was really excited. lol
[00:28] <x13> daftykins: So i still cant get into the software center
[00:28] <daftykins> ah well i started to dabble with hardware once we got a 1,083MB seagate in a 'dan' Pentium 1, 120MHz
[00:29] <daftykins> my dad chose DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11 over Windows 95
[00:29] <daftykins> D:
[00:29] <ben941> myself?  I started building my computers with around 400-500mb drives
[00:29] <daftykins> x13: oh was that the original problem? :D tbh i never saw that
[00:29] <ubuntuaddicted> my dad paid $2600 for the mac plus in the late 80's, came with 1MB of RAM
[00:29] <loganlee> ubuntuaddicted: hahaha
[00:29] <harris> hello
[00:30] <ubuntuaddicted> BUT you could max it out at 4MB of RAM. lol
[00:30] <x13> daftykins: yeah that and not being able to update but i think we took care of the later part
[00:30] <harris> i need to turn off power saving
[00:30] <loganlee> ubuntuaddicted: did it have tape drive?
[00:30] <ben941> back when velociraptor from WD was a true 3.5in and the 7-7,500 rpm was the 'velociraptor' speed instead of 10,000
[00:30] <loganlee> i remember very first computer i had had a tape drive instead of floppy
[00:30] <ubuntuaddicted> loganlee, i didn't have an internal drive, i think he bought an external hdd for it but don't know if it was tape or not
[00:31] <loganlee> oic hehe
[00:31] <daftykins> x13: that's what i like to hear \o/
[00:31] <tuffgong> IS IT  POSSIBLE TO UPGRADE  FROM 12.04 TO 13.04
[00:31] <harris> anyone
[00:31] <daftykins> tuffgong: yes but not directly. you have to go to 12.10 then to 13.04
[00:31] <ubuntuaddicted> tuffgong, you have to first upgrade to 12.10, and then 13.04
[00:32] <ben941> To get an idea of my age - it was when windows was 3.x and you still ran most games from dos - and shutting down windows meant exiting to dos....    not near as old as tape drives (at least for home use)
[00:32] <x13> daftykins: Yes indeed. Thankyou very much. Any ideas about the software center
[00:32] <ubuntuaddicted> harris, hello, just ask your questions
[00:33] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, my father was an apple guy from the start, and schools back then were apple II and apple II GS so my first exposure to windows was 95
[00:33] <ben941> I'm scared to upgrade from 12.04 for my server at least - took enough code editing just to get the crappy RR62x esata card drivers from highpoint to work with anything above kernel 3.0
[00:33] <tuffgong> daftykins,ubuntuaddicted    the 12.10 package isnt thhere
[00:33] <donvito2> is there a way to delete older ubuntu distros ? like <IP_ADDRESS> , 3.2.0-35 etc
[00:33] <mega1> does anyone know how to get a logon script from active directory
[00:33] <ubuntuaddicted> ben941, on my media server I always stick with LTS releases
[00:33] <ben941> ubuntuaddicted: now that you mention it, at my preschool they used all apple computers
[00:33] <daftykins> x13: my pleasure :) which version is this? tbh i've not used desktop ubuntu in a while. i'd try and find the program name, e.g. maybe it's 'ubuntu-software-centre' and run it from a terminal to see if it'll show error messages
[00:34] <netlar> I have a question about bluetooth, I get the message "Device added successfully, but failed to connect".  Not sure if I need a driver or there is some fix I can do.
[00:34] <ben941> at home was where my parents had the windows 3.x and dos
[00:34] <zykotick9> donvito2: those are kernels.  yes, you can uninstall the ones you don't use.
[00:34] <ubuntuaddicted> donvito2, yes, open synaptic and search for linux and you can remove old kernels
[00:34] <donvito2> let me check
[00:34] <donvito2> thanks
[00:34] <ben941> donvito2:  use google
[00:34] <x13> daftykins: I am running the laptop version.... not exactly sure which one it is, i think 12.0.4
[00:34] <zykotick9> !google | ben941
[00:34] <ben941> there are so many wiki articles to step by step walk you through an upgrade and removing old images it isn't even funny
[00:34] <daftykins> x13: cat /etc/lsb-release
[00:35] <netlar> I am already using blueman to help this this, how can I connect my speakers correctly?
[00:35] <zykotick9> daftykins: running "lsb_release -a" would be a more common suggestion.
[00:35] <ben941> i suggest giving a link to the ubuntu wiki on upgrading distros then - simply as it would be more useful to him than use trying to explain the steps
[00:35] <daftykins> zykotick9: ty, is that in all versions?
[00:36] <zykotick9> daftykins: all debian based, and many other distros as well.
[00:36] <x13> daftykins: says none existant file
[00:36] <zykotick9> daftykins: "lsb_release -sc" is really handy ;)
[00:36] <ubuntuaddicted> what about cat /etc/issue
[00:37] <x13> ubuntu 12.10
[00:37] <x13> daftykins: /issue worked 12.10
[00:37] <guideX> 12.10 to 13.04 -> should I be worried?
[00:38] <ben941> "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" are at the start of SOOO many 'how-tos'
[00:38] <guideX> I already clicked the upgrade button
[00:38] <ben941> guidex: do you have any add-in cards?
[00:38] <daftykins> zykotick9: do you have an answer as to the name of the software centre executable for x13 to try in a terminal ?
[00:38] <guideX> nope
[00:38] <guideX> i'm in a vm
[00:38] <ben941> then no i wouldn't be concerned at all
[00:38] <guideX> ah cool
[00:38] <guideX> does anyone know if 13.04 performs better in vmbox with unity?
[00:38] <guideX> seems like 12.10 unity was non functional in a vm
[00:38] <guideX> err in vbox
[00:39] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, you could just create another VM and install 13.04 in it. that's the great thing about VM'sd
[00:39] <guideX> that's true
[00:39] <ben941> the performance is constantly being tweaked - and remember 12.10 was beta for much of the time, never an LTS
[00:39] <guideX> oh didn't know that about 12.10
[00:39] <guideX> it performed quite well
[00:39] <harris> i need to turn off power saving
[00:39] <guideX> other than unity being slow as heck in vbox
[00:39] <ben941> 12.04 was the LTS, 12.10 was not long term support
[00:40] <ben941> thats likely because of unity having so much interface with internet databases, to purchase media etc
[00:40] <ubuntuaddicted> i stick with LTS personally
[00:40] <ubuntuaddicted> just recently went to 12.04, was running 10.04.4 for the longest time
[00:41] <zykotick9> compiz is a resource "hog", unity is a compiz plugin...
[00:41] <ubuntuaddicted> i have 1 machine running 12.10 with gnome-classic mode though as I don't like unity
[00:41] <harris> my sound chip keeps turning off and on making a pop noise
[00:41] <guideX> I have an 11.04 I can't get rid of as well heh
[00:41] <guideX> it's sad, I can't upgrade it, can't delete it.. i'm just stuck with that one the way it is heh..
[00:41] <ben941> "sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop" will install the desktop without the included packages like the options to buy media from unity
[00:41] <harris> dr_jesus_,
[00:41] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, in a VM?
[00:42] <guideX> yeah
[00:42] <ben941> and without the office libre suite
[00:42] <Guest25748> i used rematersys with 13.04 x64 amd. it did the iso but it stop during the installation saying something with busybox ... do you know something ?
[00:42] <ben941> you can then go back and add the packages you want included
[00:42] <x13> software center just freezes
[00:42] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, then just delete the VM.
[00:42] <guideX> it's a dev box I inherited from another developer, it has too much on it and is too hard to replace
[00:42] <guideX> the other developer failed to update it
[00:42] <ben941> that would likely give you a significant increase in performance within a VM
[00:42] <ktims> hi there, i have had a package fail the --configure step. I've had to fix it manually outside of dpkg, but apt now wants to run configure on this every time. how can i mark it fixed in apt database?
[00:43] <ktims> i can't just run --configure as it will try to import the ldap database and clobber my fix, as well as failing
[00:43] <ben941> ktims: it sounds like there is still outdated code in the package
[00:43] <nullby7e> how can i quit from X to check something
[00:43] <ben941> ktims: or redundant code or an overlooked issue
[00:44] <ubuntuaddicted> null1024, sudo service lightdm stop
[00:44] <ubuntuaddicted> null1024, that's for 12.04. you can do that from tty1 thru tty6
[00:44] <ktims> i think it's because my ldap db is replicated, anyway this is an ancient 8.10->9.04 upgrade i'm trying to bring up to date, the package is working i just want to move on
[00:44] <guideX> is there some unofficial unsupported way to update 11.04 to 13.04?
[00:44] <guideX> which may or may not work, etc
[00:45] <ben941> guidex: you download the image to upgrade to 12.04, image to upgrade to 12.10, and then image to upgrade to 13.04
[00:45] <ubuntuaddicted> guideX, no, you have to always upgrade to the next version, all the way up to where you want to go BUT I would suggest a fresh install
[00:45] <TheNewGuy> Hi
[00:46] <guideX> problem specifically is, this box hosts a bunch of old php zend websites I can't reproduce the environment on another machine
[00:46] <guideX> it seems to only work on 11.04
[00:46] <riddrib> if you pandora radio account expire you can use in ubuntu the program Pithos with the same account for ever!
[00:46] <guideX> for these old php zend sites
[00:47] <ben941> guidex: you would install the next version and restart ur VM between each upgrade - and the "--no-install-recommends" will still give you unity without the extra media purchasing options coming up everytime you search for software, which might help your performance
[00:48] <guideX> oh cool
[00:48] <guideX> i'll try that
[00:48] <ben941> you would just need to make sure you install any specific packages or programs you want that is usually included
[00:48] <ben941> like libre office, etc
[00:48] <guideX> oh of course.. I usually only use developer tools and such
[00:48] <guideX> so that's not a problem
[00:48] <guideX> I install geany, php, mysql, apache etc
[00:48] <dwarder> i have openssl version 1.0.1 installed and also i have openvpn installed and it doesn't contain config for openssh 1.0.1 only for 1.0.0 and below
[00:48] <dwarder> what shoul i do?
[00:49] <loganlee> dwarder: wat...
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> Hey whenever I install something with apt-get, i get this following error
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:49] <TheNewGuy>  avg2013flx
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:49] <TheNewGuy> anyone might know whats going on?
[00:50] <ben941> guideX: these two links should be helpful to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20%28Recommended%29  and http://askubuntu.com/questions/2093/how-to-install-gui-desktop-on-a-server
[00:50] <harris> my sound chip keeps turning off and on making a pop noise
[00:50] <loganlee> TheNewGuy: apt-get update
[00:50] <dwarder> loganlee: in easy rsa folder of openvpn there are configs for openssl
[00:50] <michael87> took a long time to theme up ubuntu damn. But it looking good now
[00:50] <loganlee> ???
[00:50] <dwarder> loganlee: there is not config for 1.0.1
[00:51] <loganlee> hehe
[00:51] <TheNewGuy> loganlee what do u mean?
[00:51] <dwarder> no*
[00:51] <loganlee> yeh....
[00:51] <Zync> hey  guys i'm having a problem in dual boot with win7 and ubunto
[00:51] <loganlee> TheNewGuy: run apt-get update
[00:51] <loganlee> sudo apt-get update
[00:51] <TheNewGuy> k
[00:51] <zykotick9> TheNewGuy: i assume to tried to install AVG?  why do you want antivirus on gnu/linux?
[00:51] <TheNewGuy> yea lol
[00:51] <michael87> so I'm having trouble with the dreamcast emulator. it is very laggy. Tried to install demul through crossover. keeps crashing. I'm certain my laptop should be able to emulate dreamcast no problem. 256 intel grpahics card please help
[00:51] <netlar> I think the problem is I am getting no signal strength for my bluetooth dongle, how can I fix that?
[00:51] <zykotick9> !virus
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> well... i came from windows background...
[00:52] <riddrib> How need antivirus in ubuntu ?
[00:52] <zykotick9> TheNewGuy: see ubottu message above.
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> yea
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> but I am using vm
[00:52] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, most virus's are written to affect windows OS
[00:52] <TheNewGuy> so i have a shared directory with my windows host machine
[00:52] <loganlee> TheNewGuy: do u run windows 8?
[00:52] <loganlee> i like windows 8
[00:53] <Zync> when i choose ubuntu 12.04 over win7 it shows an error regarding i should put win7 cd and restart your pc yadda yadda, but win7 runs fine, its just ubuntu that wont work
[00:53] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, then just use anti-virus in windows
[00:53] <ubuntuaddicted> Zync, sounds like your grub menu entry is messed up
[00:53] <TheNewGuy> I guess
[00:53] <TheNewGuy> i run windowso 7 btw
[00:53] <Zync> how do i fix it?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> Zync, This an install from windows of ubuntu?
[00:53] <guideX> <- runs windows 7, or vista
[00:53] <loganlee> windows 8 is cool
[00:53] <riddrib> Well you need Antivirus in Windows
[00:54] <elkng> tool "ps" shows there are 28 processes of web browser "lynx" like: "8579  8636 0 0 [lynx] <defunct>", so they consume 0 memory but they still  in list of processes, what are they ? whereas regular ones are shown as: "17132 29558 7428 4440 lynx http://www.google.com"
[00:54] <loganlee> <- runs windows 8
[00:54] <ben941> guideX: the first one talks about how to upgrade from LTS versions, the 2nd link has the command I mentioned w/ the attribute to leave out install recommendations....  this would not leave out your php, mysql, apache, etc.... not basic stuff that is included w/ server distros....   it would only leave out things like the unity software and digital
[00:54] <ben941> media purchasing, libreoffice, etc... mostly GUI applications - you can always install the packages seperately if you find you need something, and that way you will get the latest version for the 13.x distro as well
[00:54] <loganlee> !bill gates
[00:54] <Zync> well i installed ubunto from a pen flash drive
[00:55] <loganlee> i like ronaldo
[00:55] <Zync> and did all the req partitions, for / ; /home and the swap one
[00:55] <ben941> zync: you likely need to go into the grub interface and check your partitions to make sure you have an ntfs partition that is bootable
[00:55] <guideX> cool thanks ben
[00:55] <riddrib> When you learn everything in ubuntu ,gnu/linux, you never go back to window
[00:55] <Zync> how do i go into the grub interface??
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> !grub | Zync
[00:56] <deadweasel> how do you run a .run file? it's shell install script...  i think.  for AMD drivers.
[00:56] <guideX> riddrib: I disagree.. as a developer, I find it that I need both linux and windows
[00:56] <guideX> and to a lesser extent, mac
[00:56] <guideX> just for dev purposes...
[00:56] <ubuntuaddicted> and with todays hardware you can run them all on 1 machine at the same time.
[00:57] <guideX> for instance.. someone says "your website doesn't work/look good on a mac", best way is to boot up your mac and look at it
[00:57] <ben941> Zync: i'm still fairly new with unix commands and forget the exact commands - i'd suggest following ubottu's link.  to copy and paste commands when following a tutorial saves times even if you already know the command or not
[00:57] <TheNewGuy> is there a nice youtube tutorial or pdf where I can learn the basic file system on a linux?
[00:57] <max3> hey does anyone in here speak marathi? can you tell me what this says? तु कीती चावट आहेस वेडया. यूगानडा सारखे संङास चालतील काय़. मासे मारायला अपण एकदा गेल पाहीजे.
[00:57] <guideX> or boss says "I want a crossplatform app, will run on ipad and android", that'll take a mac and android...
[00:57] <Zync> the *thing is im currently on win7
[00:57] <loganlee> deadweasel: chmod +x runfile && ./runfile
[00:57] <Zync> the ubuntu didn't work
[00:57] <riddrib> I understand you is developer but the regular client no need a both operating system
[00:58] <michael87> I came back from windows 7 myself. Still tryying to decide if I like ubuntu 13.04 better yet. though things are faster in ubuntu then before it is still a pain to customize the freaken windows. Least now I know how to color the annoyying toolbar above. always been drawn to linux don't know why. but games are a pain. Even emulation appearently. since dreamcast is having issues with me
[00:58] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, every linux filesystem structure is slightly diffeent
[00:58] <daftykins> deadweasel: chmod +x and then ./blah.run
[00:58] <ben941> I agree with guidex.... things llike the controversial silverlight refusing to provide support to linux makes windows still necessary if I want to access my netflix account
[00:58] <deadweasel> loganlee: i chmoded already, I'll try again
[00:58] <deadweasel> thanks
[00:58] <Zync> but i want both operating systems
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> max3, http://translate.google.com/
[00:58] <loganlee> ook
[00:58] <guideX> yeah there'll always be a need to have all three (imo)
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Zync, Read the link.
[00:58] <x13> Does anyone know a good Gameboy advance emulator for ubuntu? Tried one with wine but didnt work at all
[00:58] <max3> wilee-nilee: doesn't do marathi
[00:58] <daftykins> deadweasel: of course if it's definitely graphics drivers, 'sudo ./blah.run'
[00:58] <ben941> it is the only thing stopping me from running my media server and htpc boxes from both running linux only
[00:58] <TheNewGuy> I see
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> max3, This is an english ubuntu support channel.
[00:58] <guideX> for me, I must run windows, as .NET pays my rent
[00:59] <max3> lots of people from the indian sub-continent develop
[00:59] <TheNewGuy> is there a text filter feature built into pidgin? i can't keep up with all the chat trying to figure out whos talking to me lol
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> max3, No really, you have no argument here, translating is not on topic.
[01:00] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, people talking to you, it will be different color
[01:00] <ben941> zync: grub is like a partition manager and similar to looking into MBR issues when dealing with windows - for dual boot, you use GRUB and one of the partitions should be NTFS (the partition that has windows on it) and this partition needs to have options set in grub to tell it that it is a bootable partition
[01:00] <x13> Does anyone know a good Gameboy advance emulator for ubuntu? Tried one with wine but didnt work at all
[01:00] <max3> wilee-nilee: i'm not constructing an argument? i was just going for a long shot
[01:00] <ben941> this way each time you start, grub will come up and ask which OS you wish to boot from
[01:00] <TheNewGuy> how so?
[01:00] <loganlee> how to write an interpreter for a text file?
[01:00] <Gnarly> visualboyadvance always worked for me
[01:00] <guideX> x13: you could run the windows one in wine
[01:00] <Zync> i used easy bcp for that
[01:00] <x13> guideX: tried that didnt work
[01:00] <TheNewGuy> "TheNewGuy, people talking to you, it will be different color" is the same color as other chats
[01:01] <TheNewGuy> black
[01:01] <guideX> hmm
[01:01] <ben941> guidex, he just mendioned wine
[01:01] <ubuntuaddicted> max3, can't you use google translator
[01:01] <guideX> ah ok missed that part
[01:01] <x13> would sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance work?
[01:01] <max3> ubuntuaddicted: it's not hindi it's marathi so no
[01:01] <zykotick9> x13: mednafen is a multi-system terminal emulator that does GBA
[01:01] <guideX> when you say it didn't work, what did you mean
[01:01] <ubuntuaddicted> max3, can't help you then
[01:01] <michael87> can anyone help me in emulating dreamcast on my ubuntu laptop? I installed lxdream and it is very laggy. tried demul in crossover/wine and crashed
[01:02] <guideX> max3: there's irc tools which have built in translators too
[01:02] <ben941> x13: if visualboyadvnace is a debian/linux package then yes it should work
[01:02] <x13> guideX: it simply would not do it
[01:02] <servvs> okay so the upgrade to 13.04 trashed my desktop
[01:02] <moseymosey> is there a specific channel for discussing ubuntu server?
[01:02] <x13> zykotick: do you have terminal command for downloading. and by multi-system what do you mean?
[01:02] <loganlee> deadweasel: try run from sudo
[01:02] <servvs> I was using gnome shell 3.6 and now it won't even load up a desktop at all through GDM if I have gnome shell installed
[01:02] <guideX> x13: No$GBA with wine?
[01:02] <guideX> have you tried it?
[01:03] <ben941> multisystem = cross platform
[01:03] <deadweasel> i did loganlee
[01:03] <servvs> after using apt-get remove gnome-shell it loads GDM and I can log in to a broken Unity
[01:03] <b4ulook4me> Hi all
[01:03] <deadweasel> i'm about to --force.. should I not loganlee ?
[01:03] <x13> ben941: indeed but which platforms
[01:03] <servvs> anyone else having any issues after upgrading to 13.04 from 12.10?
[01:03] <x13> guideX: yes tried it and the wine that i have wouldnt work
[01:03] <guideX> servvs: i'm upgrading right now
[01:03] <guideX> it says "fetching files"
[01:04] <servvs> Well, if you are upgrading to use the new gnome-shell then don't it breaks everything when you try to install it
[01:04] <ben941> x13: apparently he is saying it works in windows and linux environments...  I would suggest trying to find one natively compatible in linux...  running things in wine is not always reliable to access graphics acceleration, etc
[01:04] <guideX> hmm I was hopeing to see the new unity
[01:04] <guideX> it uses gnome again?
[01:04] <ben941> guideX: what do you mean?
[01:04] <guideX> I found that in 12.10 the gnome shell didn't do gnome2 justice
[01:05] <servvs> I don't know what unity uses, I just know my desktop is all glitched out right now
[01:05] <guideX> so I switch to xfce
[01:05] <guideX> hmm
[01:05] <servvs> I was using Gnome 3.6 gnome shell and now everything is broken
[01:05] <TheNewGuy> is C or C++ installed by default?
[01:05] <ben941> guideX: unity is based on gnome desktop with minor customizations as far as i'm aware
[01:05] <guideX> oh didn't know that
[01:06] <servvs> not sure how to fix it, I've removed all of my  desktops and reinstalled them and everything is messed up. Either it won't load or there are graphical glitches
[01:06] <x13> ben941:any suggestions I am downloading Visual boy advance right now to try
[01:06] <mega1> is there any way to get a logon script from active directory
[01:06] <guideX> I wouldn't think so
[01:06] <ben941> serws: you have multiple desktop interfaces to choose from....  this is to install a GUI on a server:  but it applies to installing a different GUI desktop in place of unity as well http://askubuntu.com/questions/2093/how-to-install-gui-desktop-on-a-server
[01:07] <servvs> well yeah I know that, but it broke gnome shell for me and thats what Ive been using for the past year
[01:07] <zykotick9> !info mednafen
[01:07] <zykotick9> x13: see above.
[01:07] <servvs> Probably going to have to go with another distribution entirely if I can't get it to work
[01:07] <guideX> mega1: check this link http://www.centrify.com/directcontrol/group-policy-for-linux-desktops.asp
[01:07] <guideX> for group policy stuff
[01:08] <zykotick9> x13: fyi, the new version support Genesis and Playstation (experimental) as well, not sure if that version has made it too ubuntu yet.
[01:09] <konam> on windows i can do alt+170 and get this sign: ¬    i'm used to having it because many of my keyboards (spanish) have it integrated but english kb don't. is there a way to get this sign on an english kb without having to copy and paste it all the time?
[01:09] <x13> zykotick9: so how do i get it?
[01:09] <guideX> konam: check in #windows maybe
[01:09] <zykotick9> x13: how do you normally install things in ubuntu?  same way.
[01:10] <daftykins> konam: english keyboards do.
[01:10] <konam> guideX i want to know how to do it on linux, not windows
[01:10] <pcmu> konam, install the US-English international layout
[01:10] <guideX> oh ok
[01:10] <loganlee> konam: look up unicode table
[01:10] <konam> daftykins where, i'm on a english kb now
[01:10] <daftykins> UK-english has it as shift+(the one to the left of #1 on the top row)
[01:10] <daftykins> if you mean US english then i have no idea :D
[01:11] <x13> zykotick9: sudo apt-get install mednafen?
[01:11] <konam> daftykins yep, US
[01:11] <pcmu> the us international layout has ¬ with AltGr+\
[01:11] <loganlee> hey guys how to write an interpretor for text file?
[01:11] <zykotick9> x13: perhaps mednafen isn't a good suggestion for you, it's terminal based...  and you'd probably have to read some documentation... best of luck.
[01:12] <konam> pcmu stupid laptop doesn't have altgr.... just left and right alt
[01:12] <x13> zykotick9: there is nothing simple that i can just open then open the roms?
[01:12] <x13> or disc images
[01:13] <donvito2> is there a way to disable that keyring that asks me for password everytime i open something?
[01:13] <loganlee> donvito2: i got that as well.... before i installed win 8 over it
[01:13] <loganlee> i dont even know what keyring is
[01:13] <loganlee> -_-
[01:13] <daftykins> password storage
[01:13] <loganlee> oh... huh?
[01:14] <pcmu> konam, neither does my notebook keyboard, right alt does it for me
[01:14] <donvito2> so how to disable that function?
[01:15] <Kawata> whoa
[01:15] <pcmu> donvito2, you can set your default keyring password as blank
[01:15] <Kawata> they brought 3 more floodbots
[01:15] <donvito2> pcmu how?
[01:16] <pcmu> launch the 'passwords and keys' app
[01:16] <balls> is bash possible for everything or can it not do stuff that some GUI programs can do
[01:17] <balls> for example changing a setting for the OS
[01:17] <lindar> ?
[01:17] <pcmu> dovito2: in that app you can see your keyrings, you can right click the one called 'Default' and change its password to blank
[01:17] <lindar> Hej, so I'm having a fair amount of trouble here. I am on Ubuntu 13 and connected properly to my wireless router. Another computer I have would also connect to this same wireless router, but was running Windows 8. I just installed Ubuntu 13 on it and it *will not connect* to the router.
[01:17] <balls> like is it always in the shell or not alwats
[01:17] <ShadowNinja> balls: It can do everything :-)
[01:17] <balls> not always*
[01:17] <bazhang> balls, try in #bash
[01:18] <balls> in windows not everything is in the shell , some stuff you have to only go in the GUI settings
[01:18] <lindar> I have tried getting it to connect where the router has no password and is completely open.
[01:18] <balls> is linux like this ever?
[01:18] <lindar> It still will diddle for a bit, think about it, and then fail to connect.
[01:18] <balls> hi baz didnt expecpt to see you here
[01:18] <TheNewGuy> Hey guys I'm having an issue with changing my IP address
[01:18] <balls> im not sure where to start with linux
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> whenever I do ifconfig eth0 192.168..... netmask..., i lose connection
[01:19] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, what do you want to change it to? what's the problem
[01:19] <KawaBOT> Hey.
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> well.. i want to change it to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:19] <balls> I need to learn bash whatever its called right?
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> but it seems that anything I change it to, it will lose connectino to the outside world
[01:19] <ShadowNinja> balls: No, a GUI is little more than a wrapper for the command, although some applications are designed to only work with a GUI.
[01:19] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, do you have a router that hands out IP's?
[01:19] <balls> or is there something before that I have to learn
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> yea
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> lindar, Post the wireless hardware info, lspci will tell you or lsusb if a usb.
[01:19] <KawaBOT> Hey.
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> i have a at&t router, and then a host windows 7 and then the ubuntu vm
[01:20] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, what's your router's IP, most likely <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> its actually 254
[01:20] <balls> obvioustly the GUI has a program but I mean shell commands here of any shell
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> .254
[01:20] <balls> not programming syntaxes
[01:20] <lindar> wilee-nilee: I should also make mention of the fact that it *will* connect to other routers, just not this one in particular.
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> everytime I reset my vm, it grabs <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, what OS again?
[01:20] <lindar> Namely it will connect to my phone's hotspot.
[01:20] <balls> those are two different things
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> ubuntu
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> guest is ubuntu
[01:20] <JesseH> linux
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> host is windows 7
[01:20] <ben941> balls: GUI only sends commands to the shell aka command line interface
[01:20] <ubuntuaddicted> TheNewGuy, version
[01:20] <TheNewGuy> the new one lol
[01:20] <balls> where do I start with linux development
[01:21] <JesseH> balls, kernel dev 101
[01:21] <TheNewGuy> how do i checck?
[01:21] <ben941> balls: everything can be done through command line, that is why ubuntu server has no desktop environment
[01:21] <balls> im trying ubuntu again but its too much for the memory
[01:21] <KawaBOT> Hey.
[01:21] <balls> so I have to get a lite version of it
[01:21] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:21] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:21] <ben941> balls: linux DEVELOPMENT or learning how to use and set up linux?
[01:21] <FloodBot1> KawaBOT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:21] <balls> development
[01:21] <Kawata> oh great
[01:21] <JesseH> He likes big booties O.o
[01:21] <Kawata> the bot's fucked in the head
[01:21] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:21] <TheNewGuy> lol
[01:22] <KawaBOT> I LIKE BIG BOOTIES
[01:22] <balls> he will not go to heaven
[01:22] <balls> defo not
[01:22] <JesseH> OH SHIT
[01:22] <ben941> balls: use the server distro of ubuntu if you don't have enough memory
[01:22] <JesseH> Picis GOTS OP EVERYONE RUN
[01:22] <JesseH> oh
[01:22] <loganlee> lol its case sensitive
[01:22] <balls> wont that require more ram?
[01:22] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9041 NetGear, Inc. WNA1000m 802.11bgn [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[01:23] <balls> i heard one called ubuntu ltxf or something
[01:23] <JesseH> :c unfair my op man
[01:23] <JesseH> mr*
[01:23] <balls> it was liter than ubuntu desktop 13.4
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> lindar, needs a wrapper and driver if realtek most likely, that's all I know.
[01:23] <balls> brb
[01:23] <ben941> balls: server distros are command line interface only, no GUI and no desktop - just the shell (many people only understand this as DOS command prompt.... that is essentially a microsoft shell/command line interface)
[01:23] <balls> oh id like the GUI too
[01:23] <ben941> balls: server distros do NOT take more memory - as they do not run a desktop or any GUI
[01:23] <balls> so I can see the results
[01:24] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Really? Cos it worked on everything I've tried except the router that's hooked up to my home internet.
[01:24] <ben941> balls: if you want to learn linux and linux development - you don't want the GUI....
[01:24] <agu10^_> hello
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> lindar, In linux?
[01:24] <balls> how come?
[01:24] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Yes, after I installed Ubuntu 13.
[01:24] <balls> how do you see your results
[01:24] <balls> with out gui and everything in it
[01:24] <ben941> balls: because it passes commands to the shell, and does the same thing you can do in the command line interface - only you DON;T see the results
[01:24] <agu10^_> I run a command sed -i '$ a\some line' * ... and now all my files, when opened in vim, have ^M after each line. What is ^M ???
[01:25] <balls> id like to see the results lol
[01:25] <bazhang> balls, did you have any actual ubuntu support questions? this is not the general bash/linux chat channel
[01:25] <ben941> balls: most packages and commands have special flags like -V for verbose or print to output additional results
[01:25] <balls> errors dont always determine what you are wanting to achive
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> lindar, All I could do is google the info, so I'm not much help in this.
[01:25] <lindar> wilee-nilee: Yeah, Google wasn't much help in this case.
[01:26] <ben941> balls: for example, if you install a package using the shell - it still shows all the information as it installs... the server it downloads from, the packages its installing, even the process bar that goes from 0 to 100%
[01:26] <riddrib> the real help is the chat in real time !
[01:26] <ben941> balls: you see none of this using a GUI for the same process
[01:26] <lindar> Anybody else: Got an Ubuntu 13 box that will connect to everything except one particular router, but my Ubuntu 13 laptop connects to the same router just fine, and the box in question connected to said router when it was running Windows.
[01:26] <Mikeasaurus> How long does it typically take to install ubuntu?  Is it a bad sign if its been stuck on "EIP <e19899da>] wl_cfg80211_detach+0xca//0xd0 for like 25+ minutes?
[01:26] <balls> I still want to use it as an OS
[01:27] <balls> for internetnetc however
[01:27] <TheEpTic> Mikeasaurus: yes
[01:27] <bazhang> balls, take this elsewhere please
[01:27] <balls> is there a lite version uf ubuntu that can do this
[01:27] <TheEpTic> Mikeasaurus: By the looks of it, that's a kernal error but I could be wrong.
[01:27] <bazhang> !mini > balls
[01:27] <Mikeasaurus> So turn off PC and start over?
[01:27] <TheEpTic> Worth a try.
[01:27] <balls> i mean for RAM
[01:27] <Mikeasaurus> I'm trying to install from Cd, would installing from usb be better?
[01:28] <ben941> balls: you will also see EVERY error using most programs through the CLI - many of these errors will be ignored by GUI interfaces....  I suggest you install a server distro and not select the LAMP server package on installation choices if you want a light weight installation
[01:28] <TheEpTic> Mikeasaurus: I'd personally perfer CD.
[01:28] <balls> im running it in virtualbox
[01:28] <lindar> Mikeasaurus: Possibly, if your board supports it. That's how I do it because my machines don't have CD drives.
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Sum the iso first a usb is another option.
[01:28] <ben941> balls: you can always install a lightweight desktop ontop of it after....   many desktop environments to choose from : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[01:28] <TheNewGuy> hey
[01:28] <balls> ok thanks brb
[01:28] <loganlee> how do u write an interpreter? guys?
[01:28] <agu10^_> How can I disable all iptables rules? If i run iptables -F, when i reboot, the rules are working again! I just want to remove them forever! Or go back to initial iptables configuration.
[01:29] <loganlee> interpreter of text file
[01:29] <mattwj2002> hi guys I have a general linux/ubuntu question
[01:29] <TheEpTic> agu10^_: I'd just remove iptables all together but I've heard that brakes ubuntu sometimes.
[01:29] <ben941> loganlee: what do you mean by interpreter
[01:29] <TheEpTic> mattwj2002: Fire away
[01:29] <agu10^_> then what can i do?
[01:29] <agu10^_> i do not want any rules but i can't take them off :(
[01:29] <mattwj2002> what blue ray burning tools are available in ubuntu?
[01:29] <Mikeasaurus> my boot orders are 1. floppy disk 2. atapi cd rom 3. +hard drive and 4. network adaptor
[01:29] <mattwj2002> *bluray
[01:30] <Mikeasaurus> would floppy disk be considered usb?
[01:30] <Chris_W_> is there a command to copy files and show progress in the terminal?
[01:30] <loganlee> ben941: write in text file some commands and let interpreter read it and run stuff
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, How big is the ISO?
[01:30] <TheEpTic> agu10^_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-how-to-flush-all-rules.html
[01:30] <Mikeasaurus> 794mb
[01:30] <mattwj2002> I see you can buy burners for like 60 or 70 usd :)
[01:31] <ben941> mikasaurus: you can install from CD, but with USB you can create a live cd that has a swap partition (save your data and runs the entire OS from the usb drive) - a live cd can run the whole OS but will not save settings obviously.   if you want to install it to your MAIN drive and your absolutely positive, just use the CD to install
[01:31] <agu10^_> TheEpTic, can i just paste the commands instead of making a script?
[01:31] <TheEpTic> Sure.
[01:31] <Mikeasaurus> Ok I will try the cd again, thank you.
[01:31] <ben941> mikeasaurus: just hit the key for your boot menu
[01:32] <TheEpTic> agu10^_: I'm not really much of an iptables fan.
[01:32] <agu10^_> ok, i ran all the commands
[01:33] <earthling_> On the recent security updates, it has options for generic kernel header, generic kernel image, or both generic kernel header and image in one file.  Should I disregard the extra header and image? and just choose 1 of each?  My OS version is 12.04,kernel version is 3.5.0-27-generic
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Put the cd first in the bios, or use the per sessikon boot menu. Check that your ISO is md5sum correct.
[01:33] <ben941> mikeasaurus: it should be listed by the key for you to enter bios setup - usually it is delete, f9 f10 or f12... this will allow you to specifically pick boot from CD-rom or boot from USB device
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> or the cd
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > Mikeasaurus
[01:33] <loganlee> how to write an interpreter for script?
[01:33] <Mikeasaurus> Ok thank you
[01:33] <Pici> loganlee: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/also see #bash
[01:34] <ben941> anyone have experience with SnapRAID  OR Greyhole on linux based OS?
[01:34] <loganlee> Pici: it says page not found
[01:34] <mattwj2002> bluray anyone? :)
[01:34] <ben941> loganlee: you can tell his link was broken into two parts
[01:34] <Pici> loganlee:  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:35] <ben941> go down to the part on his link that mentions 'see #bash'
[01:35] <loganlee> Pici: im asking how to write my own interpreter
[01:35] <loganlee> ...
[01:36] <ben941> loganlee: define interpreter in the manner you intend to use it
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps [0x1a] around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps [_-S1L3NC3-_] around a bit with a large trout
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps [deXter] around a bit with a large trout
[01:36] <FloodBot1> Anton2k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36]  * Anton2k slaps __esz around a bit with a large trout
[01:36] <loganlee> write something in some language in text file then interpreter runs it
[01:37] <ben941> loganlee: you are talking about a script, aka a bash script
[01:37] <loganlee> no not a bash script. my own script
[01:37] <loganlee> ...
[01:37] <loganlee> like reading a conf file
[01:38] <ben941> yes you can write your own bash scripts
[01:39] <Mikeasaurus> ok now when i put the disc in it says "this computer currently has no detected os.  what would you like to do?   1. erase disk and install ubuntu 2. encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security.  3 use lvm with the new ubuntu installation or 4. something else
[01:39] <Mikeasaurus> 1?
[01:39] <loganlee> ...
[01:39] <earthling_> could it be bad to install extra generic header and image files on security update?
[01:40] <ben941> loganlee: http://arachnoid.com/linux/shell_programming.html try glancing over this, and then try searching the official ubuntu wiki and askunbuntu sites for how to write scripts and read input from other files using correct syntax
[01:40] <Pici> loganlee: If you're asking how to write an interpreter in an arbitrary programming language then #ubuntu is not the right place. Try starting in a channel for the language you are writing it in.
[01:40] <loganlee> ok thx
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, This the precise 3.2.0-41 kernel update I had one earlier today no problems.
[01:41] <earthling_> my kernel version is 3.5.0-27-generic  but it keeps giving me update for 3.5 and 3.2
[01:42] <ben941> loganlee: you are simply asking how to write scripts - you can use the bash shell to run a script and write it in simple CLI syntax that will allow ur script to read from files and even run a command and expect a question to come from the command and provide the answer or use --force in the script to ignore any prompts, but you can also 'interpret'
[01:42] <ben941>  information from text files
[01:42] <earthling_> wilee-nilee, did you get 2 sets of generic header and image ?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, If the 3.5 is working remove the 3.2, however most have two kernel sets.
[01:43] <earthling_> those 2 sets are for the 3.5
[01:43] <ben941> mikeasaurus: do you not have another OS installed?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, I did not look close I have never had a bad kernel update.
[01:44] <earthling_> wilee-nilee, the system doesn't mind to have two kernel sets?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, if you don't remove kernels you can ahve as many the HD allows before filling basically.
[01:45] <earthling_> ok, cool
[01:45] <ben941> mikeasaurus : if you have windows installed and are trying to create a dual boot installation....  you do not need to boot from the CD.   you can put the install CD inafter logging into windows, and tell it to install from their - you simply can't run the ubuntu live straight from the CD unless you boot from it
[01:45] <Mikeasaurus> ben941.  I am unsure, its an old laptop I was given and when I tried to turn it on it said something about ntdlr was missing and hit cntrl alt del. I'm assuming it had winxp
[01:45] <loganlee> i bought it from 7/11
[01:45] <loganlee> i ate chinese instant noodle now my stomach is not at ease o_O
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> Windows won't load, no OS will load.  I'm assuming windows is broken or there is no OS
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> And I won't want to dual boot
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> I just want Ubuntu, no windows
[01:46] <ben941> mikeasaurus: in that case, I would go with erase and install, option 1
[01:46] <Mikeasaurus> Ok.  Thank you
[01:46] <loganlee> Mikeasaurus: go to bios and change hd boot order
[01:46] <ben941> he doesn't need to
[01:47] <Mikeasaurus> loganlee I'm not having any issues with that
[01:47] <ben941> he has the cd up
[01:47] <loganlee> ook
[01:47] <loganlee> my stomach hurts
[01:47] <loganlee> chinese instant noodle
[01:47] <bazhang> !ot | loganlee
[01:47] <loganlee> ..
[01:47] <ben941> mikeasaurus: when it asks about partitioning: I suggest clicking advance, and selecting GPT instead of MS-DOS
[01:47] <Mikeasaurus> ben941: this is good news, it is already farther installing than it was before
[01:47] <bazhang> loganlee, take the chit chat somewhere else
[01:48] <loganlee> ook srry
[01:48] <Mikeasaurus> Perfect, thank you.  I've never done a ubuntu install all by itself
[01:48] <ben941> mikeasaurus: thats good - it should simply wipe out the hard drive and install a fresh copy of ubuntu for you.   It asks basic set up questions along the way.  Did you have it plugged into internet??
[01:49] <Mikeasaurus> Ya I do
[01:49] <ShadowNinja> Why three floodbots? Isn't one enough?
[01:49] <Mikeasaurus> I'm pretty sure it has a wireless adapter, but ubuntu didn't recognize it so i had to plug it in
[01:50] <ben941> mikeasaurus: great, if you selected the boxes to install updates and install restricted packages (says something about to support mp3, etc) - then you should have an install that also installs the updates for you and all the packages you need to for a fully functional operating system.  Ubuntu works great on low space older pcs as well, glad you fi
[01:50] <ben941> gured it out
[01:51] <wannabe-k> i'm trying to make a bootable usb stick and i'm following the instructions online and its still not working  the step i have issues with is  step 4
[01:51] <ben941> it will likely recognize ur wirless after it installs the operating system
[01:51] <Mikeasaurus> I actually clicked don't install updates just because it froze last time so I wanted to see if it would more basic.  I'm hoping ubuntu has an easy process for updating once its installed
[01:51] <Mikeasaurus> If I remember correctly, it does
[01:51] <ben941> wannabe-k: are you using Lili usb creator?
[01:52] <wannabe-k> start up disk creator
[01:52] <bozonius> how do I make the bacula tray monitor icon show up in the Unity "tray"(?) LTS 12.04?
[01:52] <wannabe-k> like i was told by a friend
[01:52] <wannabe-k> but he's not being very helpful so i came here
[01:52] <fjodor> hi
[01:54] <fjodor> if i open a 720p video on youtube fullscreen i get vsync-errors, lagging screen and so on. i've got 4gb ram and i5-3320M. amd64 ubuntu
[01:55] <ben941> mikeasaurus: yes, the easiest way is to use the terminal to update.  but first I would go into the GUI update manager and go into settings  to add the 'restricted' repositories so you have access to things like mp3 codecs and certain drivers that are not open source
[01:55] <konam> pcmu maybe it's because i have right alt set as the compose key on the keyboard layout options, it enables me to type the "ñ" key with relative ease. and the ñ trumps the logical not sign character so the compose key behavior stays :D
[01:55] <subcool> can some one please help me with my samba..
[01:55] <konam> thanks pcmu
[01:55] <subcool> i just had it working - and then it crapped out
[01:55] <subcool> i have two machines setup on samba , that was working utnil this moring.
[01:55] <Mikeasaurus> Awesome, thanks for your help ben941.  Youve been very helpful
[01:56] <subcool> each machine wants a user and password to access the folders. but- then wont accept the user and pass,
[01:56] <ben941> mikeasaurus: then you would go to the unity menu where you search for programs and type 'terminal', open it  and type "sudo apt-get update" to update the lists of programs available on the repositories, followed by 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to upgrade any applications that have updates available
[01:56] <Mikeasaurus> awesome
[01:57] <loganlee> do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:57] <TheEpTic> !md5sum > TheEpTic
[01:57] <ben941> mikeasaurus: that can confuse some people, as update only refreshes the programs and their versions listed in the repositories,  to actually update the programs you do the "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:58] <Mikeasaurus> Makes sense
[01:58] <pcmu> konam, i too type in spanish frequently. I use "US English international with dead keys" as my layout. It lets me do tildes by pressing AltGr+a, AltGr+e... and ñ as AltGr+n. Pretty handy.
[01:58] <agu10^_> how do i know if my script at /etc/rc.local was run or not? how do i see its output?
[01:58] <ben941> mikeasaurus: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade you to the latest release (13.04 I believe, or 13.10?)   however you may want to stick with the LTS (long term service) release, 12.04 - in that case you would not do the dist-upgrade command
[02:00] <wannabe-k> i'm trying to make a bootable usb stick and i'm following the instructions online and its still not working the step i have issues with is step 4.  i'm using start up disc creator like the page on ubuntu.com says to use
[02:00] <akaSoldats> 8
[02:00] <ben941> installing the regular updates is always good practice, it installs security updates and keeps your program versions up to date.... running dist-upgrade updates the entire operating system, which can sometimes cause issues if you have hardware only supported by the more stable LTS distributions, the latest being 12.04
[02:01] <ben941> wannabe-k use "Lili USB creator"
[02:01] <loganlee> oic
[02:01] <Blue1> !pvr
[02:02] <wannabe-k> where would i get lili from?  its not in the software center
[02:02] <Mikeasaurus> alright ill make sure to do it
[02:03] <konam> pcmu yeah but doesn't it bother you having to press the space key after each apostrophe?
[02:03] <ben941> wannabe-k: Lili USB creator is a program for creating bootable usb sticks with different linux distros.   you can also select one of the built in supported distros from the drop down list or select the iso you downloaded, and you can also choose to add a swap partition so you can run the entire OS off the usb drive and save settings, etc. or just c
[02:03] <ben941> reate a bootable one to install from
[02:03] <wannabe-k> i couldn't select the iso i downloaded originally or i wouldn't have this issue....
[02:03] <wannabe-k> where do i get lili from then?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k lili?
[02:04] <pcmu> konam, yeah a little bit. You can get the apostrophe in a single keystroke by presing AltGr+'
[02:04] <ben941> wannabe-k: it stands for linux live usb... you can find it at http://linuxliveuse.com/en/download
[02:04] <ben941> sorry
[02:04] <ben941> wannabe-k: it stands for linux live usb... you can find it at http://linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[02:04] <wannabe-k> its ok.  i'm just frustrated up to :here: with this.....
[02:05] <ben941> that program makes it very simple...
[02:05] <texla> 12.04..Since install I have 4 extra linux-images showing install in synaptic and also in grub.cfg file...If i unstall all but two of the latest will it also uninstall in grub.cfg file ?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k, THe startup disc creator is in ubuntu how are you using it?
[02:05] <konam> pcmu those are actually two keystrokes :D
[02:06] <wannabe-k> wilee-nilee: i don't know what you're asking.  i'm a linux noob
[02:06] <Minniti> hello good night
[02:06] <pcmu> pcmu IMO modifiers don't count
[02:06] <ben941> just plug in your usb drive, select which drive it is, and you don't even have to download the latest .iso file - if  I remember right it has default ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 to select from - and you can just upgrade once it is installed
[02:06] <pcmu> derp
[02:06] <wannabe-k> which is why i usually have a friend do this for me....but he's apparently busy
[02:06] <konam> but thanks, i've seen that you have to actually give in a little if you want to write in english and spanish without having to change layouts constantly. i think i'll stick with my previous layout, thanks
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k, What is the OS you are in trying to load the usb?
[02:06] <pcmu> no prob
[02:06] <wannabe-k> 12.04 lts
[02:07] <ben941> wannabe-k: www.linuxliveusb.com   and save urself any headache, 12.04 LTS is a default distro it supports, you simply select it from a drop down bar
[02:07] <wannabe-k> yep.  i'm getting there on my other computer....the one i'm trying to reinstall on
[02:09] <ben941> ok, it was a while since I used it but the instructions were really self explanitory, and the most I had to do is see what drive letter my USB drive was... it took care of the rest with step by step instructions.  The swap partition is if you are going to RUN ubuntu from the usb drive, if you are just using it to make bootable and install from, you
[02:09] <ben941>  don't need the swap partition - thats the only part that might be confusing
[02:09] <muteboy> hello
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> wannabe-k, all you have to do is have the startup disc creator see the iso and install, you can have it erase the usb, it needs to be a fat32 partition.
[02:09] <loganlee> hello
[02:10] <muteboy> hi loganlee
[02:11] <wannabe-k> it opened in wine?
[02:11] <Minniti> #otbr
[02:11] <muteboy> i have a question about the different flavors of ubuntu
[02:11] <wannabe-k> chocolate is best
[02:11] <loganlee> muteboy: yeh?
[02:11] <Minniti> HOW I CAN ENTER AN CHANNL
[02:11] <Minniti> ?
[02:11] <loganlee> ?
[02:11] <wannabe-k> ./join <channel>
[02:11] <bwat47> you're in one
[02:11] <muteboy> i run ubuntu regular
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> Minniti /j "channel"
[02:11] <Minniti> thanks Wannabe-k tnx tnx !! ^
[02:11] <muteboy> i would like to try ubuntu studio
[02:11] <Minniti> thnks wilee
[02:11] <Minniti> ^
[02:12] <muteboy> can i dual boot them?
[02:12] <agu10^_> "Once you've downloaded and unpacked upstart, you will need to configure the source tree, build and install it. The main question here is deciding whether or not you want to take the plunge and replace sysvinit immediately, or whether you want to test first." Seriously? I just want to start a server script.
[02:12] <muteboy> oh woops gotta go
[02:12] <muteboy> later!
[02:13] <texla> 12.04..Since install I have 4 extra linux-images showing installed in synaptic and also in grub.cfg file...If i uninstall all but two of the latest will it also uninstall in grub.cfg file ?
[02:14] <bwat47> texla: run sudo update-grub after, that should clean it up automagically
[02:14] <bwat47> texla: actually that gets run automatically after kernel installs/removals anyway afiak
[02:15] <texla> bwat47, OK Thanks
[02:15] <subcool> samba help please
[02:15] <Mikeasaurus> ben941 it never asked about GPT
[02:15] <subcool> the computer is requesting a user and pass, but then dont accept it
[02:16] <ben941> Mikeasaurus: did it say anything about default is MS-DOS
[02:16] <zykotick9> Mikeasaurus: if you aren't dealing with a 3TB+ drive it doesn't _really_ matter
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> no
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> all i did was click install
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> and it installed
[02:16] <ben941> zykotick9 is right
[02:16] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[02:16] <ben941> it really only matters if you use large hard drives or dual boot instalations
[02:17] <Mikeasaurus> now its been trying to restart for about 2 min.  its on a black screen saying "peech-dispatcher disabled.  asking all  remaining processes to terminate... [ok]
[02:17] <ben941> for an old laptop using just ubuntu, not using GPT for the boot master is fine
[02:17] <Mikeasaurus> frozen?
[02:17] <betrayd> agu10^_: somehow you picked up upstart, that's a serious package
[02:17] <ben941> possibly, but possibly not
[02:18] <agu10^_> betrayd, picked up? that's the way you make startup scripts
[02:18] <ben941> if your laptop is fairly slow, it could just be similar to when you shut down windows - it closes everything first
[02:19] <ben941> what did you download to put on the CD that you installed??
[02:19] <betrayd> the new way that is
[02:19] <betrayd> agu10^_:
[02:19] <Mikeasaurus> 13.04
[02:19] <Mikeasaurus> its old, but its been probably 4+ minutes now
[02:19] <ben941> 13.04 desktop
[02:20] <ben941> if it goes past 10 minutes
[02:20] <ben941> i'd cut the power
[02:20] <ben941> and try reboot
[02:20] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[02:21] <ben941> you could simply have hardware that needs a proprietary driver that linux doesn't natively detect and install and open source driver for - that could cause issues with other processes that try and use that hardware
[02:22] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[02:22] <ben941> however, sometimes it can detect this by itself - for example, i had a linksys wireless N add-in card, and had to plug it in during installation to get internet
[02:22] <ben941> but after rebooting, it told me I had a network interface card that required a proprietary drive
[02:22] <ben941> driver*
[02:24]  * mgodzilla discovers bmon...
[02:24] <mgodzilla> :)
[02:24] <Mikeasaurus> ok cutting power
[02:24] <ben941> i'm glad your install went sucessfully...  I have to head out, but most people on here know much more than I do about Linux troubleshooting....   installing a driver that isn't in the repositories can be tricky but they can help you.   it could also be solved by an update - similar to windows, sometimes it must update some processes and reboot befo
[02:24] <ben941> re the remaining updates are able to be installed
[02:25] <Mikeasaurus> thanks for your help, i really appreciate it
[02:25] <ben941> no problem, did you use the update center program or run the terminal and put in the "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[02:26] <Mikeasaurus> it said something about out of date firmware on the bootup
[02:26] <Mikeasaurus> didnt have time to read it all
[02:26] <rtnb> hi all, fresh install of ubunu 12.04 LTS and my ethernet connection keeps cutting in and out.  Dual boot with windows 7 where its working all fine.  I'm pretty new to linux so I'm kind of stumped.    ANy ideas?
[02:26] <jestillore> hi everyone .. can anyone of you help me setting up pxe server in ubuntu lucid lynx ?
[02:28] <ben941> in that case, updating could possibly help - or it could be the firmware (driver) for a piece of hardware needs to be updated - in which case you would have to go to the manufacturers website to see if they have linux drivers, or search google for 'name of hardware' linux driver to see if an open source driver is available somewhere
[02:28] <jestillore> hi everyone .. can anyone of you help me setting up pxe server in ubuntu lucid lynx ?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> jestillore, You might ask in #ubuntu-server
[02:28] <jestillore> ahy .. sorry .. thanks wilee-nilee ..
[02:30] <ben941> mikeasaurus: this link shows the graphic interface for updates - I would have them all checked except the pre-release one, and if a box pops up in your side bar with a number it means you have updates to install. link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22747/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-10-10-to-11-04
[02:30] <Mikeasaurus> Thanks
[02:31] <SuperBawlz> I'm looking for an application with similar abilities to PGP desktop. Most important is the ability to create an encrypted virtual drive that I can mount in my OS and actively work from.
[02:31] <jrib> !encrypt | SuperBawlz
[02:32] <jrib> SuperBawlz: also see gpg
[02:32] <ben941> mikeasaurus: just use the software sources screenshot for reference - thats what you want to find, and also go under the other software tabs and check anything that says rescricted optional or proprietary - as only open source drivers come pre-installed with ubuntu, you most opt in for anything proprietary
[02:32] <SuperBawlz> Can ubuntu password protect and encrypt directories natively?
[02:33] <loganlee> what's a keyring?
[02:33] <jrib> SuperBawlz: you can enable encryption during install
[02:33] <Mikeasaurus> Ok
[02:35] <X13> So I have tried to find several emulators and i can't seem to get any to work. Does anyone have any ideas?
[02:35] <SuperBawlz> I don't want to do the whole drive and unfortunately I have no desire to re-install.
[02:35] <jrib> SuperBawlz: you don't have to do the whole drive
[02:36] <X13> I am trying to get a gameboy advance emulator and a playstation emulator even an N64 emulator would be cool.
[02:36] <X13> I can do it on windows just cant figure it out on ubuntu
[02:38] <ben941> askubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community are great places to search for your issues as well, they are good about putting step by step instructions and the commands to copy and paste if you need to use the terminal....  example:  this search for out of date driver firmware came up with instructions to update broadcom wifi device drivers as the fi
[02:38] <ben941> rst link: http://goo.gl/kmx2O
[02:38] <ben941> mikeasaurus: ^^
[02:38] <X13> Anyone?
[02:38] <X13> So I have tried to find several emulators and i can't seem to get any to work. Does anyone have any ideas?
[02:39] <ben941> x13: try askubuntu or the official ubuntu forms??   someone else has likely had the same idea and figured it out
[02:39] <X13> ben941: alright then I will give that a try
[02:40] <ben941> x13: visual gameboy advance says it supports linux
[02:40] <ben941> http://vba.ngemu.com/
[02:42] <kostkon> X13, pcsx, mupen64plus both in the repos
[02:42] <X13> ben941: cant seem to get it to work. Tried to open it and it immediately tried to open in wine then failed to open at all
[02:42] <kostkon> pcsxr*
[02:43] <ben941> x13: http://vba.ngemu.com/links.shtml#FrontEnds    you shouldn't need to use wine on something that says it supports linux unless it explicitely states linux support thru wine.... u are not using the linux front end for it
[02:43] <X13> Can I find those in the software center do you think? I feel my software center is limited perhaps because I can't even seem to find the ones I have downloaded before
[02:43] <loganlee> X13: check repository
[02:43] <ben941> x13: here is the linux gnome frontedn : http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gnomeboyadvance/  maybe that will help you figure out where to go
[02:44] <kostkon> X13, actually sorry, you can download pcsxr from here http://pcsxr.codeplex.com/releases/view/50048
[02:44] <ben941> x13: that is unlikely to be in the official respositories.... special software like this, you always have to manually download OR add the projects own repository
[02:44] <kostkon> X13, and mupen64plus an n64 emulator is in the repos
[02:44] <X13> Ok Thankyou all. trying those now.
[02:45] <kostkon> X13, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/mupen64plus/
[02:46] <Mikeasaurus> is there something like ninite.com but for ubuntu?
[02:46] <kostkon> X13, and also check this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/visualboyadvance-gtk/
[02:46] <X13> what does plugin based mean?
[02:46] <agu10^_> How do i make upstart stop my service?
[02:48] <kostkon> X13, i think it can accept different plugins for video, audio etc.
[02:48] <loganlee> has any1 played beneath steel sky on ubuntu?
[02:49] <kostkon> loganlee, why are you asking
[02:49] <loganlee> its a great game
[02:49] <kostkon> loganlee, yeah, it is
[02:50] <BHXSpecter> wonderful doing what some fixed said for the error I got just made the errors worse now....get stuff about debconf version, libgcc1, and more
[02:52] <ben941> x13: for the gameboy advance, i'd check out their downloads at the bottom of the main page: http://vba.ngemu.com/index.shtml to look for the linux build  or on their development page:http://vba-m.com/   ... http://vba.ngemu.com/links.shtml has some good resources including the GNOME front end: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gnomeboyadvance/
[02:52] <ben941>  and other links they posted which say they have tutorials.
[02:52] <ben941> also project discussion forums might give you some answers http://forums.ngemu.com/vba-m-discussion/
[02:53] <ben941> here is a GBA package for linux mint....  I remember seeing instructions for installing linux mint packages on ubuntu in the ubuntu wiki somewhere - if you installed this package and the Gnome front end you should have the GBA emu set... http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/visualboyadvance
[02:53] <agu10^_> hello! I am running node.js on port 8080 and i have apache to reverse proxy it at a certain domain. However when node.js is down, apache CACHEs the 503. How do I disable that caching?
[02:54] <BHXSpecter> think I will have to reinstall ubuntu yet again.....this the like the third or fourth time for the same error...may have to put Windows back on here :(
[02:54] <agu10^_> BHXSpecter, nothing new under the sun ;)
[02:54] <agu10^_> it happens to almost everybody
[02:55] <ben941> WITHOUT using wine, as well - native linux support for your emulator allows it direct access to the kernel and your hardware, i.e. graphics acceleration
[02:55] <ben941> BHXSpector - Windows is only easier for installing proprietary drivers
[02:57] <BHXSpecter> I have been running Vista on my desktop since it was released and not once had it crash or mess up while in he matter of a year Ubuntu has given me I/O read errors during a security update forcing me to reinstall the whole OS
[02:57] <ben941> BHXSpetor: you might want to check for any errors relating to firmware - this usually means there is hardware on ur system that linux/ubuntu does not support 'straight out of the box' per say, and just like with windows - sometimes you have to go to the manufacturer site to get the proper drivers
[02:58] <c_nick> I created a new user on an existing ubuntu machine using useradd cmd with -s -m options and added to the group of admins i set the password using passwd cmd.. but what i observe is though the user is able to do most when he shuts down it does not shut down rather logs off
[02:58] <c_nick> and by default it opens into existing account on startup.. the user has to switch users and go to his account
[03:00] <ben941> BHXSpetor: it sounds like permissions may be messed up by something you are doing which isn't allowing the system access to directories that the system should likely be the only 'user' able to access - OR esp if using a laptop, you may need to search for linux drivers for 'name of hardware' if you see any 'out of date' or 'firmware' errors
[03:00] <ben941> something you or a program you have set up is doing* to the permissions
[03:01] <kimphill> so both Brasero and Xfburn say ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso is too big to write to a CD - it's 785MB...anyone know a better way to do a fresh install?
[03:01] <BHXSpecter> permissions messed up? everytime this error happens is during the updates the system updater is trying to install and I don't touch anything outside of my Projects folder when I'm programming with Qt Creator
[03:02] <ben941> i must head out, but if you ahve exact error code i suggest using the community.ubuntu.com wiki and official documentation search  as well as the official forums and askubuntu forums - 3 great places to search for information.  many times searching for the exact error you are given comes up with a wiki or post with someone that has a solution
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> kimphill, dvd/usb
[03:04] <ben941> like i said it could be a program too - or it may not be related to permissions and have to do with the firmware (drivers) on ur system not being fully compatible w linux - in the 2nd case there is almost always someone who has found the manufacturer's linux compatible drivers even if they aren't on the main site, or have provided open source drive
[03:04] <ben941> rs that work ---   basically, usually someone else has had your problem and others have already guided them on how to fix it
[03:04] <kimphill> wilee-nilee, sure, ok, guess my question was why didn't they make it fit on a cd in the first place, like their documentation says it should...
[03:05] <BHXSpecter> did all that and tried all the 'fixes' just to get more errors ......my laptop is about six years old so I'm pretty sure every thing in it is compatible with linux
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> kimphill, there are limited downloads, say the net load 30MB. Ubuntu has not fit on a cd for a couple of releases, nothing new here.
[03:06] <ben941> I had an add on card for esata that would only work with linux kernels below 3.0....  we are past 3.6 now.   luckily the forums and official ubuntu wiki pages had exact instructions to modify the drivers so they would work - what I spent a week having a headache over was simple once i knew where to search and I had patched the driver and had the es
[03:06] <ben941> ata card working in less than 20 min
[03:06] <somsip> kimphill: This explains it http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[03:07] <dank101> hai
[03:07] <ben941> BHXSpecter:   just because its old doesn't mean the drivers aren't proprietary...  example, broadcom wifi drivers usually have to be installed by adding a special repository using command line, or downloading the driver and installing manually
[03:07] <dank101> just played tf2
[03:07] <dank101> so satisfying
[03:07] <dank101> all thanks to you
[03:07] <dank101> :D
[03:09] <kimphill> wilee-nilee, ok, got it - thanks very much. Guess it's time I should throw out my old CD-R's now ;)
[03:09] <ben941> BHXSpecter: remember ubuntu has support for MANY devices, but these drivers are open source - some companies that provide linux drivers are horrible at keeping them maintained and thus will give an error saying it won't work with newer ubuntu versions, when in fact simply modifications to the code is all they needed to provide to keep it compatible
[03:09] <ben941>  w/ linux based OS's
[03:10] <BHXSpecter> all this is moot because the errors are concerning all tool updates and their versions.. first error was it couldn't read files when doing apt-get update once that was fixed I now get errors about the version of debconf, autotools, and other dependencies
[03:11] <ben941> BHXSpecter: watch for the errors you get and search for them on the ubuntu community wiki, the ubuntu forums, askubuntu.com, and of course plain google.    if you put the exact text from the error, you're very likely to find the soluction
[03:11] <dank101> whats the best temp mananger on linux
[03:11] <ben941> dependencies is a common issue
[03:12] <loganlee> so....
[03:12] <ben941> if you fixed the read files error - the other errors you mentioned can be fixed by using apt-get install to reinstall those packages .... as apt-get automatically looks for dependencies and isntalls them as well
[03:14] <loganlee> why do u need aptitude if u have apt-get?
[03:14] <ben941> installing things using deb installer or other methods of installation doesn't always check the repository for dependencies and version conflicts....   i'm sure someone on here with more knowledge of those packages you listed can easily help you fix ur problem, or you can likely find the answer on the ubuntu wiki, forum, askubuntu, or google by typ
[03:14] <ben941> ing in those packages and 'version dependencies error'
[03:15] <ben941> you don't need aptitude.... there are many different 'packages' to handle installing from a repository
[03:15] <loganlee> ?
[03:15] <ben941> codes like wget (http adress) then make install
[03:15] <ben941> simple downloads what you tell it to from the site and installs it
[03:15] <BHXSpecter> I did sudo apt-get -f install and it spits out errors about libgcc1 ... and now the whole system has locked up so I can't install programs or anything
[03:15] <loganlee> BHXSpecter: reboot
[03:16] <ben941> you forced an install
[03:16] <ben941> when it had errors about depending on other packages that were not on ur system
[03:16] <ben941> so it forced the install, and then ceased to work
[03:17] <BHXSpecter> yeah because that was the first step of several of the solutions I found while searching...to force an install as it would install all dependencies but instead it just made more errors
[03:17] <ben941> there is also the dpkg -i (file.deb) way to install
[03:18] <ben941> when you just tried to install with the -f what came up?
[03:19] <BHXSpecter> tons of dependency errors
[03:20] <ben941> loganlee: basically there are several ways to install a package - apt-get i believe uses aptitude, there is apk-get, etc ,etc....   synaptic package handler, debian installer, etc... they all use different methods to install and are all seperate programs that handle installation.... some are better than others and search for potential problems like
[03:20] <ben941>  dependencies needed to be installed and versions needed to be updated
[03:20] <ben941> bhxspector: did you do sudo apt-get update first to update your repository listings?
[03:21] <ben941> sudo apt-get update updates the list of packages - then you run sudo apt-get upgrade to actually update those packages youhave installed that are out of date
[03:21] <dank101> what OS is this channel about
[03:21] <dank101> a.winders
[03:21] <dank101> b.windows
[03:21] <dank101> c.mac
[03:21] <ben941> you should run both the update and upgrade commands and then try your installation using apt-get install
[03:21] <FloodBot1> dank101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <dank101> d. Ubuntu
[03:22] <ben941> all of the above stop spamming
[03:22] <BHXSpecter> I wiped the lists directory, cleaned apt-get, dpkg --configure -a, apt-get update, and everything goes fine, but when system updater comes up it says 114 updates and upon telling it to install it crashes with dependency errors everytime
[03:23] <ben941> have you tried not using the GUI system updater
[03:23] <ben941> and just running sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <ben941> after the apt-get update
[03:23] <ben941> also why dpkg --configure?
[03:24] <BHXSpecter> was part of the solution for the read error I got originally
[03:24] <ben941> dpkg is an installer for debian packages (.deb) which apt-get can handle... it is what i was mentioning when using dpkg to install it doesn't check for dependencies
[03:24] <ben941> ok thats understandable
[03:24] <ben941> you may have installed the fix for the read error
[03:25] <BHXSpecter> laptop battery is about to die, I'll worry about it later or just go back to vista
[03:25] <ben941> but if you had installed it usign the apt-get, it would have checked to make sure you had the dependencies
[03:25] <ben941> I would install the same package
[03:25] <ben941> using sudo apt-get
[03:25] <ben941> instead of dpkg
[03:25] <ben941> as then it will check for dependencies and install them as well
[03:26] <ben941> also try running sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal instead of using the update program
[03:26] <ben941> see if it makes a difference
[03:26] <ben941> good luck
[03:26] <BHXSpecter> I'll try everything when I get a chance to charge my battery again....I got it working each time before I'm sure I can again :) thanks for the help :)
[03:26] <ben941> also never go back to vista - it is windows 7 before it was finished :)
[03:27] <dogface> ben941: what
[03:28] <ben941> windows vista had notorious issues - i stuck with xp.   when windows 7 came out I was afraid of these same issues.... but windows 7 can be viewed as what vista SHOULD have been if they took the time to finish it
[03:28] <BHXSpecter> I hear that a lot, but Vista has been more stable than any Windows OS I've used....wife swears by Windows 8 but I won't touch that one
[03:28] <ben941> i wouldn't touch windows 8 either
[03:28] <servvs> so I am unable to make any of my  window manager themes work properly, the only ones I can get to work are the ones that ship with metacity and metacity-themes from the repos, is there something I am doing wrong?
[03:29] <slartybartfaster> Windows 8 is pretty much pointless unless you have a touch device.
[03:29] <ben941> its a touchscreen OS layered over a windows 7 desktop environment
[03:29] <ben941> it is basically 2 OS
[03:29] <BHXSpecter> yeah she only uses it for browsing
[03:29] <dogface> ben941: you mean like ubuntu unity over gnome
[03:30] <ben941> the metro crap for touch screen doesn't even run the same programs - it uses 'apps', the desktop uses programs... so you have 2 internet explorers - the APP for the tile screen, and the program for the desktop mode
[03:30] <BHXSpecter> I just use it on my desktop to play games so I don't have to worry about emulator lag
[03:30] <ben941> no i just mean they had to release 2 service packages just to make vista stable
[03:30] <ben941> windows 7 looked like vista - but it was everything vista promised.... the polished version simply renamed, if you will
[03:31] <slartybartfaster> I think the only real reason I ever moved on from XP was because Direct X support got dropped.
[03:31] <BHXSpecter> ben941 don't worry I do all my programming in ubuntu....just blowing off steam...I'll figure a fix or just reinstall after I back up my code :) I'm off..only got 19 minutes left on battery
[03:31] <ben941> i'm off tooo
[03:31] <ben941> good luck to you
[03:31] <BHXSpecter> thanks
[03:32] <ben941> i moved on from xp just bc windows 7 had new features and it wasn't a POS like vista ended up being
[03:32] <acoleman1981> i love windows 7 but vista was horrible
[03:32] <ben941> it had the robustness and speed of XP, with the new layout and features promised in vista .... only they actually worked and supported the hardware
[03:32] <acoleman1981> 8 pro is really nice too
[03:32] <somsip> And...windows chat is very OT
[03:33] <dogface> ben941: vistA is better than u
[03:33] <dank101> i would like to report
[03:33] <ben941> 8 is just windows RT (the tablet windows) and windows 7 desktop underneath
[03:33] <acoleman1981> basically yes your right, still nice though
[03:33] <dank101> dogface, is going the OPPOSITE of what ubuntu stands for
[03:33] <dank101> sending me insulting curses
[03:34] <ben941> on top of that, the start screen with tiles uses apps vs the programs that desktop uses
[03:34] <ben941> resulting in an IE app and an IE program
[03:34] <somsip> !OT | please stop the windows chat now
[03:34] <ben941> no one was asking about ubuntu
[03:34] <dank101> and generally breaking what ubuntu stands for
[03:34] <ben941> dank is just complaining
[03:34] <dank101> haha
[03:34] <dank101> not to you
[03:34] <ben941> if we are not interupting requests for help
[03:34] <ben941> why complain?
[03:34] <dank101> to dogface
[03:34] <ben941> i'm out anyways
[03:35] <dank101> he's being a jerk
[03:35] <somsip> !guidelines | ben941
[03:35] <dank101> he send me these Pms
[03:35] <ben941> somsip: that doesn't address my logic and reasoning
[03:35] <somsip> dank101: don't post them here. Take complaints to #ubuntu-ops
[03:36] <somsip> ben941: this channel is for ubuntu support. Simple as that. Any other chat belongs somewhere else. Kindly adhere.
[03:36] <ben941> somsip: an empty chat is an empty chat, if we are not interupting the guidelines and i've been helping people for hours with ubuntu support, there is no harm discussing windows when no one is talking regardless of ANY guidelines
[03:36] <ben941> that is simple logic sir
[03:36] <ben941> have a nice day
[03:37] <somsip> ben941: this channel is for ubuntu support. It really is as simple as that. Enjoy your day
[03:37] <b0b0b0> anybody know how to turn off ubuntu offering to update to 13.whatever for a ubuntu install I did for a noob
[03:37] <b0b0b0> so he doesnt click it again?
[03:38] <edsiper> how can i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 using the ISO or CDROM ?
[03:38] <b0b0b0> download it and burn the iso to cdrom?
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> b0b0b0, software sources has a choice of every release or none or lts
[03:38] <b0b0b0> okay wille
[03:39] <b0b0b0> im suprised it asked him to upgrade to 14
[03:39] <b0b0b0> 13
[03:39] <b0b0b0> isnt it still in beta?
[03:39] <b0b0b0> or is it final now
[03:39] <FloodBot1> b0b0b0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <b0b0b0> oh, i see its supposedly ready.  well  not on his pc, laugh
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> b0b0b0, no released, the updates tab is where our headed in software sources.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> your*
[03:39] <b0b0b0> okay
[03:40] <b0b0b0> ill have to go to his house and disable it
[03:40] <b0b0b0> now hes afraid to update even security updates..
[03:45] <nullby7e> the new ubuntu is really best
[03:45] <MrGizmo757> i have a Q.  i have a dozen .WMV videos.  i want to convert them to H.264 MP4.   is there an easy way to do that?  or do i have to run each of them through a video editor?
[03:45] <somsip> MrGizmo757: what are you using to convert them?
[03:46] <MrGizmo757> Well nothing yet.  i was going to just use OpenShot and just render them one by one.  but there has to be a better way right?
[03:46] <izya_ppp> ggg
[03:46] <izya_ppp> приветы
[03:47] <th0r> MrGizmo757: I use AVIDemux for those conversions
[03:47] <somsip> MrGizmo757: I've not worked with WMV, but ffmpeg and mencoder are both commandline video converters. So you could use them with wildcards perhaps, or a small bash script to loop through all WMVs and convert each one. Might take longer than using Openshot to set up though
[03:47] <qin> nullby7e: man ffmpeg; for i in *; do [ffmpeg command]; done;
[03:47] <qin> nullby7e: http://superuser.com/questions/73529/how-to-convert-wmv-to-mp4
[03:48] <MrGizmo757> ok. well i don't have any issues with using the command line.    Which method would be the fastest you think?
[03:49] <somsip> MrGizmo757: well, qin has just found the ffmpeg command and given you a bash loop to do it. So maybe that's the starting point
[03:49] <MrGizmo757> yes i  just saw that. Thanx qin
[03:50] <qin> MrGizmo757: just make copy of files in one folder for mistake purposes
[03:50] <Fudge> how on a server imgae can you get a live prompt?
[03:50] <Fudge> image
[03:50] <Fudge> I know you can get a rescue prompt but dont know how to go from busybox into a root bash shell
[03:50] <MrGizmo757> well i have a back up of all these on an external drive. so i'll be ok if i mess up.
[03:52] <izya> ddd
[03:52] <izya> Ребята,забыл пароль на ник,как восстановить?
[03:52] <agu10^_> I restarted my machine and now the DNS is not working
[03:52] <agu10^_> what could be the issue?
[03:53] <somsip> !ru | izya
[03:53] <quem> hmmm...
[03:53] <quem> i see cyrillic all over.
[03:53] <qin> agu10^_: does: ping <IP_ADDRESS>; works?
[03:53] <lousygarua> quem, someone just redirected a user to the #ubuntu-ru channel, thus characters
[03:54] <agu10^_> yes
[03:54] <agu10^_> qin, yes it does
[03:54] <quem> is there a swedish ubuntu channel too?
[03:54] <lousygarua> quem, sure
[03:54] <quem> norwegian? danish? icelandic?
[03:54] <agu10^_> qin, i'm talking about my DNS server, which i am running
[03:54] <somsip> !se | quem
[03:54] <lousygarua> quem, i think it's #ubuntu-se, there's a channel for every loco
[03:54] <quem> nice.
[03:54] <qin> agu10^_: What DNS are defined in your router?
[03:54] <quem> hooray.
[03:54] <somsip> quem: this one tends to have more traffic. YMMV
[03:54] <quem> what's the basque one called? -eu?
[03:54] <agu10^_> qin, what router? i'm using google's
[03:54] <quem> !eu
[03:54] <agu10^_> and I'm running bind9, qin
[03:55] <quem> !ba
[03:55] <izya> tryer
[03:56] <qin> agu10^_: oh...
[03:56] <somsip> quem: full list http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/03/
[03:57] <quem> thank you somsip
[03:59] <quem> raring ringtail has given me back hope in ubuntu.
[03:59] <izya> edrfsdf
[03:59] <izya> Хелп ми
[03:59] <quem> yes, edrfsdf, izya
[04:00] <izya> im lose my pass
[04:00] <clu3> guys, when i connect my ubuntu box to a projector, only the desktop backgound & the sidebar is shown , the applications (powerpoint, browser) won't show at all, they are all transparent. What should i do?
[04:00] <izya> where backup password irc ubuntu-ru ??
[04:01] <djmatrix> hello people
[04:04] <rhg135> please help with this a10-4600M with radeon hd 7600, no drivers seem to let me choose which to use
[04:05] <zwindl> hello
[04:05] <zwindl> anyone here
[04:05] <zwindl> 有中国的吗
[04:05] <lee__> hi,guys.   I have a function in bashrc  . but I can't call it as root ? How to solve the problem
[04:06] <hellokevin> exit
[04:06] <qin> lee__: more precise?
[04:07] <qin> lee__: do you have sudo access?
[04:07] <kimphill> !jp | zwindl
[04:09] <rhg135> nobody knows? i don't mind running the 7600 but it does drain the battery considerably
[04:10] <lee__> qin, yes.  I can call it with sudo access .I switch to root .it's invaliable
[04:13] <qin> lee__: edit cron via sudo with @reboot option and use bash to detect user login
[04:13] <qin> lee__: or upstart, what function?
[04:15] <lee__> qin, function foo { echo  "example" }
[04:16] <qin> lee__: and... above looks like alias
[04:19] <Guest16628> so
[04:19] <Guest16628> so
[04:20] <TXRoadkill> Anyone having problems with Ubuntu 13.04 and media applications?
[04:21] <TXRoadkill> I installed 13 last night, and now VLC won't launch, and Rhythmbox won't play internet streams
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> TXRoadkill, Run vlc in the terminal and look for errors. Did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:28] <TXRoadkill> Except for installing KDE, I'm using a generic version of 13.04
[04:28] <TXRoadkill> and I'm not using KDE as the interface
[04:29] <TXRoadkill> I'm using Unity.  Keeping as generic as possible
[04:29] <lee__> qin, the problem is :there is a function named foo() in the ~/.bashrc ,but when you switch to root with  command su    ,you can't  call  the  foo() functions
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> TXRoadkill, Install the restricted extras for additional codecs, and report errors on vlc if needed.
[04:29] <TXRoadkill> Everything was working fine until I upgraded to 13.04 yesterday
[04:30] <TXRoadkill> it's not just VLC
[04:30] <TXRoadkill> Rhythmbox is broken also
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> TXRoadkill, Upgrades can be problematic on occasion.
[04:30] <TXRoadkill> it would appear ;)
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> Just wondering is anyone else had had the problem
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> couldn't find anything with a Google search
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> but they just offered the general release yesterday
[04:31] <TXRoadkill> probably should have waited for the bugs to get sorted out
[04:31] <somsip> lee__: use /etc/bash.bashrc which applies to all users?
[04:32] <somsip> lee__: other possible solutions depending on what you're wanting to do http://serverfault.com/questions/177699/how-can-i-execute-a-bash-function-with-sudo
[04:35] <Mikeasaurus> im installing some ninite aps, one of which is "restricted extras" and it has been installing for over 2 hours...is there anyway to see how big the file is or see if my computer is just frozen?
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, In the restricted apps is an accept fro ms fonts, ninite must have a gui or terminal tight?
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> for*
[04:41] <Mikeasaurus> yes
[04:41] <Mikeasaurus> it has a terminal
[04:41] <lee__> somsip, it woks.thx
[04:43] <anj> hi
[04:43] <Mikeasaurus> in terminal it just says "installing restricted extras..." but gives me no additional info
[04:43] <anj> hello
[04:43] <anj> please
[04:43] <anj> is there anyone to help me
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Look around for a popup to accept the msfonts
[04:43] <somsip> !ask | anj
[04:45] <Mikeasaurus> Thank you wilee-nilee
[04:45] <lee__> somsip, I find the notify-send  is unavailable  in ubuntu13.04.      notify-send -u critical   "message"    is unavailable as root
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> sure
[04:46] <somsip> lee__: I don't run 13.04 so I can't help you there
[04:47] <qin> lee__: I do not think notify-send should be run with sudo...
[04:52] <budotz> hello, the files /etc/logrotate.d/...say id put another one in there for /var/log/messages ....where do i specify it to run on specific time?
[04:53] <budotz> do i need to put them in /etc/cron.daily/ instead?
[04:54] <josefig> is there a way to boot a machine with the ubuntu installer disk ?
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> josefig, The ISO? the disc is for booting and installing.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> or repairing, do you have a install not booting ? JoseeAntonioR
[04:56] <lee__> qin, notify-send have lots of problems . zenity may be a good solutions
[04:56] <josefig> wilee-nilee: yes but if for some reason the grub is not working and I want to use the ISO disc for booting the already installed ubuntu.. is it possible with the ubuntu installer disk ?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> josefig, ^^
[04:56] <stercor> Where/How do I get -ldl into the make command do include the DSO in the link step?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> josefig, Heh if you were booted to the install and set up a partition for the iso you could boot it.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> with grub
[04:57] <sere> Any ideas why i cant change icons or themes in fluxbox using lxappearance or ubuntu-tweak ..just switches right back to default
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> josefig, You can most likely fix the installs grub with a live cd.
[04:57] <josefig> ok, the ubuntu is already installed but grub is not working, so with the ubuntu installer disk, may I boot the installed ubuntu ?
[04:57] <josefig> wilee-nilee, how do i do that?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !grub | josefig
[04:58] <Mikeasaurus> Hey wilee-nilee are these "restricted extras" drivers by any chance?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Codecs and msfonts
[04:58] <Mikeasaurus> Ok.  is there a way to automatically have ubuntu search for driver updates?
[04:58] <Mikeasaurus> The sound is horrible
[04:59] <alkisg> josefig: press space to invoke the isolinux menu, then tab to edit the command line, and remove "boot=casper" and replace "root=xxx" with "root=/dev/sda1"
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> mikestewart, Drivers for what?
[04:59] <josefig> ok
[04:59] <Mikeasaurus> I guess my soundcard/wireless network card/videocard
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Sound card never heard of any special drivers. What release?
[05:01] <Mikeasaurus> HP Pavilion zv6000
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, What ubuntu release
[05:02] <Mikeasaurus> OH sorry
[05:02] <Mikeasaurus> 13.04
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Mikeasaurus, Look in software updates additional drivers if you have run a update to see if any show. otherwise post what the cards are, from running lspci to find them.
[05:04] <Mikeasaurus> ok thank you
[05:45] <Joanet> Hi all
[05:45] <Joanet> I'm trying to change the login background & logo using Ubuntu-tweak, but no luck. Also, I've copied the files to /usr/shares/backgrounds and repaired the permissions, but still no luck. Can anyone help me? I'm using Edubuntu 12.04 x64
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: hi
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: ubuntu-tweak should be able to change it correctly, i did same for 13.04
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: did you unlock to change background in ubuntu-tweak?
[05:47] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: thanks for your reply. I'm trying to do it and it seems to be ok, but if I reboot it has no change
[05:47] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: yes, I click on the unlock button
[05:47] <Joanet> also i'm using the last version of ubuntu-tweak
[05:48] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: do you know how can I check if ubuntu-tweak has made the change?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: thats weird indeed, are you logged in as root of your system, or another user?
[05:48] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'm using sudo
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: normally if you choose: same background as current in ubuntu-tweak, after reboot it should be changed
[05:49] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: one workmate has tried it using ubuntu and it worked, but in Edubuntu is not working
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: maybe edubuntu uses another way of storing login background, not sure about that
[05:50] <lucido> is there gparted on the current 13.04 install cd? I'd like to boot into live mode and resize and move some partitions before install.
[05:50] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: perhaps Edubuntu has something extra than normal Ubuntu
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: maybe the guys from #edubuntu know it?
[05:50] <alkisg> Joanet: you're not talking about edubuntu ltsp clients, are you?
[05:51] <Joanet> hi alkisg
[05:51] <alkisg> Hi
[05:51] <Joanet> alkisg: no, I'm using the server
[05:51] <alkisg> OK
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> lucido: you can rezise partitions from default install, choosing 'other options'
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> lucido, Yes.
[05:51] <Joanet> after changing the background and logo I want to freeze the user profiles
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: ah you need to do it in root account, to make it change for all users
[05:53] <Joanet> but first of all I want to do this. I think it will be a weirdness but... still no luck changing them
[05:53] <lucido> lotuspsychje, the move and resize is on a partition with 700Gb of data, it isnt empty
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: other tweaks are seperate for each user
[05:53] <lucido> B
[05:53] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'm using the account created on edubuntu setup
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: try in #edubuntu perhaps
[05:55] <Joanet> I tried but no much people, and no replies :( ... although I'll wait patiently :D
[05:55] <Joanet> also I'm looking for forums about it
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: how about you start ubuntu-tweak from terminal, then change the background
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: maybe it will show error
[05:56] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'll try it now... wait a minute
[05:58] <kshenoy> I'm looking for a theme having a dark system bar ( menu bar ). Can someone suggest some good themes for 13.04?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> kshenoy: deviantart and gnome feel.org have loads
[06:01] <RainbowW> is it possible to get rsync to do segmented downloads?
[06:02] <Sanpreet> hello
[06:02] <anshusanand> hello
[06:02] <Sanpreet> tWhats uo
[06:02] <anshusanand> i need some help
[06:02] <Sanpreet> WHats up
[06:02] <Sanpreet> ok
[06:02] <Sanpreet> tell me
[06:02] <kshenoy> lotuspsychje: Ah, I was hoping for some suggestions. But thanks anyway :)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !ask | anshusanand
[06:03] <anshusanand> i would like to know whether ubuntu supports tilera processors
[06:03] <Sanpreet> I donot know
[06:03] <anshusanand> okk
[06:03] <Sanpreet> What do you think
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> kshenoy: you have default ubuntu theme as current right now?
[06:05] <anshusanand> i dont know  ubuntu supports the multicore processor
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> anshusanand: does tilera have 64-bit?
[06:06] <kshenoy> lotuspsychje: yes. But I'm not fond of the orange highlights
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> kshenoy: i used to have dark night theme or something but that long time ago
[06:08] <anshusanand> lotuspsychje: its 32-bit
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !cpu
[06:08] <sduncan> does this sound familiar to anyone: running 12.04, macbook pro 6,2, nvidia driver v310 - display shows only a purple screen, but plays the ubuntu sound when the unity greeter loads (nothing shows however)
[06:10] <histo> !nomodeset | sduncan
[06:10] <histo> anshusanand: you can run ubuntu ona 32bit machine
[06:11] <anshusanand> okk.thanks
[06:11] <sduncan> i've tried nomodeset before, with not much luck. perhaps i'll try again
[06:11] <pyWorks_> does any one know if the #django irc is working, I couldn't get through
[06:11] <histo> !mac | sduncan
[06:11] <jaapio> hi, I have a problem with a network drive that's not mounted during boot
[06:11] <histo> !alis | pyWorks_
[06:12] <Ben64> pyWorks_: i think you need to be registered
[06:12] <histo> jaapio: how are you trying to mount it
[06:12] <jaapio> histo: is in the fstab
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Joanet: anything usefull in errors?
[06:12] <pyWorks_> thanks
[06:12] <histo> jaapio: please post your fstab to paste.ubuntu.com so we can take a look
[06:13] <jaapio> the bootlog shows an error: Failed to resolve server
[06:14] <jaapio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628192/
[06:14] <jaapio> but after startup i'm able to mount it with "mount -a"
[06:15] <histo> jaapio: try by ip instead of hostname
[06:15] <histo> jaapio: also it's possible networking isn't up when it try's to mount so you need a mount -a later on in the boot
[06:17] <jaapio> histo: I think that's the case. Since when I get the login screen of KDE I have to wait a minute before I can logon. (Using LDAP from the same server)
[06:17] <th0r> jaapio: do you get prompted for a password when you mount the drive after login?
[06:18] <Mba7eth> guys do you know where can we get help on IRC for sphinx-doc ?
[06:18] <Spaceghost> Hello.
[06:18] <jaapio> th0r: no, its an nfs drive
[06:18] <Spaceghost> I am having a problem and it's this:
[06:18] <Spaceghost> guest-tYzA2S@space-Notebook-PC:~$ LANG=En sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nowrep/qupzilla
[06:18] <Spaceghost> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Spaceghost: login as root, not as guest
[06:19] <Spaceghost> What is the problem?
[06:19] <Spaceghost> I was forced to create a new account because the old had problem.
[06:19] <Spaceghost> lotuspsychje: when I try it through su I have login problems.
[06:19] <Spaceghost> And I don't remember have changed the password.
[06:19] <Spaceghost> What I can do?
[06:19] <Ben64> Spaceghost: well you can't use sudo as guest
[06:19] <qin> Spaceghost: guest = no su, no sudo, period
[06:20] <histo> jaapio: There are other mount options you can use i'm looking into them now.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Spaceghost: did you loose your root login+password?
[06:21] <Ben64> there is no root password
[06:21] <histo> jaapio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125408/mounting-nfs-synchronously-on-boot  This may be of interest to you.
[06:21] <Spaceghost> lotuspsychje: when I put "su" then I put the one password and then it fails.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !su | Spaceghost
[06:21] <Ben64> Spaceghost: you need to log in as your user, guest will not work
[06:23] <jaapio> histo: tnx, I will have a look
[06:24] <histo> jaapio: they are trying to mount /home like you are
[06:25] <SilvereX> How do I install the open-source radeon drivers?
[06:25] <Ben64> !radeon | SilvereX
[06:25] <Ben64> oh you said open source
[06:26] <Ben64> SilvereX: they should already be installed
[06:26] <Mikeasaurus> How do I get Ubuntu to detect my wireless network?  I updated my drivers but im still having problems
[06:27] <histo> Mikeasaurus: What kind of chipset and how did you "update" drivers?
[06:28] <pall> I have a general IRC question, What does it mean that i have to auth to services to join a channel. It asks for a username and password, is this my current login name and password to my box
[06:28] <Mikeasaurus> I guess I did an upgrade, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[06:28] <histo> pall: no you register with nickserv ask in #help
[06:28] <Mikeasaurus>  BCM4306 (rev 3) card
[06:28] <histo> Mikeasaurus: can you pastebin the output of lspci -k
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> pall: no, on this network [freenode] you register a account with email username password
[06:29] <A1Recon> pall: u can set your own username so that it can be used only by u
[06:29] <histo> Mikeasaurus: and sudo iwlist scan
[06:29] <pall> ALL: thank you
[06:30] <SilvereX> Ben64: Yeah I've heard they're bundled in with Ubuntu but I can't for the life of me find the "Additional Drivers" manager in LXDE
[06:30] <A1Recon> Can I password protect the terminal of ubuntu?
[06:30] <penguinman> SilvereX, try the command software-properties-gtk
[06:31] <agu10^^> Hello. I have an issue. When i boot up my server the DNS port/connection gets blocked. I think iptables is not working properly. What can I do? I have flushed but every time I reboot iptables strikes back.
[06:31] <histo> A1Recon: O.o  ?  they already have to login to get there.
[06:32] <SilvereX> penguinman: Okay, that worked. But there's nothing listed in "Additional Drivers"
[06:32] <histo> SilvereX: What are you trying to do?
[06:32] <MrEmerald> I don't know if this would be the right place, but my apache2 is started, and I can go to localhost, but it won't show all my files in the www dir. I moved all these files from the windows side and put them in my ubuntu side. I restarted the server a few times already... still not showing all the files(folders)
[06:32] <histo> agu10^^: still?   Add an exception for DNS in iptables
[06:32] <histo> !firewall | agu10^^
[06:32] <SilvereX> histo: Install the open-source radeon drivers because I have a Radeon HD4850 and the fglrx drivers don't support that on Ubuntu 13.04
[06:32] <histo> agu10^^: second link ^^
[06:33] <SilvereX> But I heard the open-source drivers do work on 13.04
[06:33] <histo> SilvereX: they are already installed by default
[06:33] <A1Recon> OK
[06:33] <A1Recon> got it
[06:33] <agu10^^> histo, but i just want to have no rules! like the initial configuration
[06:33] <A1Recon> I was watching a video
[06:34] <histo> agu10^^: iredmail's script set your iptables to drop all incoming packets except for the the exceptions you see when you iptables --list.  You just need to add a rule for dns
[06:34] <histo> agu10^^: sudo ufw allow dns
[06:34] <Mikeasaurus> A1Recon I installed them as shown on the help.ubuntu.com website and it installed, then I restarted.  Now when I try to do it again it says "e: unable to locatepackage firmware-b43"
[06:34] <A1Recon> histo: how did you put your name in red, like the message that you sent me just now  "<histo> A1Recon: O.o  ?  they already have to login to get there." your name's in RED
[06:34] <theadmin> Is there a way to bind a key / key combination to toggle the touchpad? My laptop doesn't have a key for that :/
[06:34] <RainbowW> is there a way to limit, or lift the limit, on the number of connections to sshd/sftpd from a single user, or from all users?
[06:35] <theadmin> A1Recon: When someone mentions your nickname, it's highlighted for you
[06:35] <Mikeasaurus> And sudo iwlist scan gives me "lo interface doesnt support scanning" and eth0 "interface doesnt support scanning"
[06:35] <histo> A1Recon: because your nick is in the line
[06:35] <histo> !who | A1Recon
[06:35] <A1Recon> !histo
[06:35] <histo> Mikeasaurus: did you get your lspci -k output yet?
[06:35] <histo> A1Recon: What?
[06:35] <MrEmerald> I don't know if this would be the right place, but my apache2 is started, and I can go to localhost, but it won't show all my files in the www dir. I moved all these files from the windows side and put them in my ubuntu side. I restarted the server a few times already... still not showing all the files(folders)
[06:35] <A1Recon> I think I got it
[06:36] <SilvereX> histo: Doesn't look that way. Ugh, I think I might just wipe my PC and go back to 12.10
[06:36] <Bodsda> MrEmerald: erm... are any of them web pages?
[06:36] <agu10^^> histo, i think i found the rules file made by the malware i installed
[06:36] <agu10^^> let me see if deleting them will help
[06:36] <MrEmerald> Bodsda: All of them are, but they are separated in folders
[06:36] <theadmin> SilvereX: Suggest 12.04 for more stability + longer support.
[06:37] <histo> MrEmerald: /j #httpd
[06:37] <MrEmerald> histo: thanks
[06:37] <histo> agu10^^: just sudo ufw allow dns  ffs
[06:37] <Mikeasaurus> histo I just did lspci -k output and got a bunch of options and pci acess options
[06:37] <theadmin> MrEmerald: Check the permissions on them, they should be owned by www-data methinks (see what /var/www is owned by)
[06:37] <MrEmerald> theadmin: Ill have a look
[06:37] <histo> Mikeasaurus: yes can you please post the info the paste.ubuntu.com or use pastebinit to do so. lspci -k | pastebinit
[06:38] <MrEmerald> theadmin: yeah they are owned by my windows 7 side, ill check how I can change over the perm
[06:39] <Bodsda> MrEmerald: man chown
[06:39] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/WbGatjRy
[06:40] <histo> Mikeasaurus: try it without typing output after lspci -k
[06:41] <MrEmerald> theadmin: I found out the problem, was just the perms lol
[06:42] <xlaire> how to install google chrome without knowing the exact file location of the install ?
[06:42] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/ikFquhQr
[06:42] <histo> xlaire: What?
[06:42] <A1Recon> A1Recon
[06:42] <histo> Mikeasaurus: "lspci -k"    without quotes
[06:43] <xlaire> this is the https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb of the chrome
[06:43] <xlaire> without searching the internet how to locate that using terminal
[06:43] <xlaire> without using*
[06:44] <Mikeasaurus> my bad, www.pastebin.com/K9pD9W7W
[06:44] <theadmin> xlaire: No way, I mean... Chrome is only available as that .deb. To actually find the link, you'd need to browse their site.
[06:44] <xlaire> i see
[06:44] <xlaire> thx
[06:45] <theadmin> Ubuntu repositories provide Chromium which integrates with the system better anyway (web app support for example)
[06:45] <xlaire> no idea on terms you are using
[06:45] <xlaire> been 2 months now using ubuntu
[06:46] <theadmin> xlaire: Search "Chromium" in the software centre, works better with Ubuntu -- clear now :P
[06:46] <theadmin> ?
[06:46] <xlaire> i enjoyed but i need some time to research i guess what is repositories
[06:46] <xlaire> sorry i dont like to use mouse that is why i switch to ubuntu
[06:46] <UbuBegin> What is the minimum reqd for installing 13.04.. I have an old lap.. Centrino 2 i think.. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop .. I searched here but cudn't find any links
[06:47] <theadmin> xlaire: "Repositories" are storage of software supported by Ubuntu developers. They're quite huge. You can access them using the Software Centre, Synaptic (GUI) or apt-get, wajig (CLI)
[06:47] <histo> Mikeasaurus: lspci -vnn -d 14e4:                 Does that have any output?
[06:47] <xlaire> i understand now
[06:47] <Mikeasaurus> No it just goes down to the next line with :~$
[06:48] <theadmin> UbuBegin: As for the processor, Pentium Pro and up (i686). 512MB of RAM. But Ubuntu is *heavy* on 3D graphics, you may like Xubuntu instead.
[06:48] <Mikeasaurus> wrong sorry it does
[06:48] <A1Recon> ubottu
[06:49] <histo> Mikeasaurus: You should be using the b43 driver not the wl driver
[06:49] <Mikeasaurus> www.pastebin.com/S272Nfwa
[06:49] <theadmin> UbuBegin: Xubuntu and Lubuntu generally work better on older hardwares.
[06:49] <Mikeasaurus> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[06:49] <Mikeasaurus> Thats what I used
[06:49] <xlaire> another, hope i didnt annoyed good people here: my friend just bought new laptop and i think the OS is just unix
[06:50] <xlaire> does unix can connect to network and internet
[06:50] <theadmin> xlaire: UNIX? That doesn't really exist anymore :P
[06:50] <theadmin> xlaire: Besides that has nothing to do with Ubuntu so can't help ehre
[06:50] <xlaire> do you have idea on what OS is that
[06:50] <xlaire> is pure terminal
[06:51] <xlaire> its* and i run like ls, i think it is something linux/unix
[06:51] <xlaire> i see ok
[06:51] <xlaire> np
[06:51] <histo> Mikeasaurus: this issn't a usb device right?
[06:51] <theadmin> xlaire: Well... There are many Linux distributions which come without a graphical interface, but uh... You can check with "uname -a" for starters and then try to cat /etc/*release
[06:51] <Mikeasaurus> No
[06:51] <Mikeasaurus> Its inside the lapto
[06:52] <xlaire> ok thx for the command, i will try
[06:52] <histo> Mikeasaurus: do you have bcmwl-kernel-source installed or brocom-sta ??? that could cause the issue
[06:52] <Mikeasaurus> Not sure, how do I tell
[06:52] <Mikeasaurus> I think bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:53] <histo> Mikeasaurus: dpkg -l | grep bcmwl
[06:54] <Mikeasaurus> pastebin.com/fgdbtYYX
[06:55] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: hi again, I got this error : GConf WARNING : You can't use a GconfEngine that has an active Gconfclient wrapper object. Use GConfclient API instead
[06:55] <Joanet> I'm looking for more info about that
[06:58] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I'm going to to a debug
[06:58] <jackw> 64 bit or 32?
[06:58] <jackw> what you thing about 64 bit??? faster than 32?
[06:58] <Bodsda> jackw: depends on you're computer - CPU architecture and amount of RAM
[06:59] <UbuBegin> theadmin, Can you watch videos,browse internet and run torrents in Lubuntu... Or it purely command based only
[06:59] <ashish> hi
[06:59] <ashish> everyone
[06:59] <jackw> yes you can  do these under lubuntu
[06:59] <theadmin> UbuBegin: No, it has a graphical interface
[06:59] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: you can do all of that, Lubuntu is lxde based - iirc
[07:00] <jackw> just like what you do on ubuntu they are the safe mostly
[07:00] <theadmin> UbuBegin: I suggest Xubuntu though if you have to use a non-latin keyboard, Lubuntu had problems with switching last I checked :/ Well, or you could setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle us,ru # or such
[07:00] <jackw> i suggest you use ubuntu
[07:01] <jackw> ubuntu provides the best experience
[07:01] <theadmin> jackw: (s)he stated above (s)he has older hardware (and Ubuntu is... well...)
[07:01] <UbuBegin> theadmin, I just use English...
[07:01] <theadmin> UbuBegin: Ah, then use whichever you prefer :D
[07:01] <helmut_> hi
[07:02] <jackw> if you want to real lightweight go lubuntu
[07:02] <UbuBegin> jackw, it has 1/2 gig ram.. so lubuntu wud be better ..
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> ^ by far
[07:03] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: there are plenty of options, lubuntu is a good choice as is xubuntu, puppy, dsl, ubuntu + lightweight DE - try them out and pick whichever 'you' like
[07:05] <Mikeasaurus> you still here histo?
[07:06] <UbuBegin> Bodsda, Are all of COTS products ?? I dont want to sit down and configure stuffs
[07:06] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: cots?
[07:07] <himanshu_linux> hi , i have download ubuntu 13.04 , and now i want to just replace my existing ubuntu 12.04 . Is there any safer way to replace it without losing files  ???
[07:07] <somsip> himanshu_linux: backup first
[07:07] <UbuBegin> Bodsda, I mean Of the shelf usuage... No config needed.. And installing of now s/w shld be easy like ubuntu also
[07:08] <Bodsda> UbuBegin: ubuntu is one of the most pre-configured distro's - but it may also be worth checking out Mint, not sure what their recommended specs are though
[07:09] <theadmin> UbuBegin: Ubuntu and all of the officially supported derivatives (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu) are pretty much out-of-the-box, no configuring is required
[07:09] <theadmin> !coc | Bodsda do not recommend unsupported distributions
[07:09] <marandi> hi guys , i just downloaded 13.04 ! if i mout the iso file and add it as repository in software source , can i upgrade my 12.04 without any problem ?
[07:09] <Bodsda> theadmin: seriously, don't bother
[07:09] <theadmin> marandi: You can't skip releases
[07:09] <himanshu_linux> somsip : i have lots of files . how to backup them to different place? and by back up you mean to transfer to different drive or is there way ?
[07:10] <theadmin> marandi: You'd have to upgrade to 12.10 first, or reinstall from scratch
[07:10] <marandi> theadmin: im sorry , my mistake i have 12.10 in my laptop
[07:10] <theadmin> marandi: Ah. Then it is recommended to upgrade by using the update manager. I'm actually not sure if upgrading from DVD is supported anymore.
[07:11] <theadmin> marandi: Should be, though, you'd get a pop-up asking if you want to upgrade when you insert the media
[07:11] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: I think I have the problem
[07:11] <auronandace> marandi: boot the media and run the installer and it will offer to upgrade 12.10 to 13.04
[07:12] <marandi> theadmin: great , let me check it ! just one more question , should i mount iso file as CDROM label to able add it in software source ?!
[07:12] <somsip> himanshu_linux: rsync or cp with the correct params to keep all permissions etc. See !backup. You need to copy them away from the source partition that is being written to be safe
[07:12] <theadmin> marandi: Listen to auronandace, it seems he knows how it's done
[07:13] <himanshu_linux> somsip : ok
[07:13] <marandi> auronandace: ok , great but im not able to write the iso on the disk ! my driver is broken , i want to use iso file
[07:14] <somsip> himanshu_linux: not source partition...I mean target partition that the upgrader will write to
[07:14] <auronandace> marandi: i don't know how but i know grub can boot from iso files, sorry i can't help you with that
[07:14] <Joanet> lotuspsychje: When I use ubuntu-tweak on normal ubuntu, it wrote change on /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/50_unity-greeter.gschema.override, but it seems Edubuntu uses other file
[07:14] <nahuel_> plese i need enter to the spanish chanel, thanks
[07:14] <Bodsda> nahuel_: /j #ubuntu-es
[07:14] <nahuel_> thanks
[07:14] <himanshu_linux> somsip : hmm got it
[07:14] <theadmin> marandi: Install "grml-rescueboot", place the ISO file in /boot/grml and run "sudo update-grub"
[07:14] <marandi> theadmin: wow .. :D !
[07:15] <marandi> auronandace: its alright , thanks btw !
[07:16] <SweetPlum> Wait, did that automatically divert me to the ##matlab channel when I clicked the other one?
[07:16] <SweetPlum> That's clever.
[07:16] <theadmin> SweetPlum: This is #ubuntu
[07:17] <SweetPlum> True enough. :)
[07:17] <histo> Mikeasaurus: remove the bcmwl-kernel-source package... sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:18] <histo> Mikeasaurus: and the sta package if you have it sudo apt-get remove broadcom-sta
[07:18] <histo> Mikeasaurus: then if you have the b43 firmware you should be good to go after restart
[07:19] <Mikeasaurus> awesome, thank you histo
[07:20] <Mikeasaurus> unable to locate broadcom-sta
[07:23] <BigFist> is there  some bug in recent update for 13.04? Suddenly I cannot set launcher entry properties.  I can get proper entry object (python), i can call set_property, but there is no visible effect whatsoever
[07:24] <Mikeasaurus> histo you are my hero, it works!
[07:27] <waseem_> Hi. This answer, ask ubuntu, talks about how to have gnome-terminal start bash as a login shell http://askubuntu.com/a/40313. This however requires that I use GUI to check that option. I'm sshed on a remote server and can't forward X locally. Is there a way I could do the same from CLI?
[07:28] <gartral> alright, I'm frustrated.. I have half a dozen USB thumbdrives i'm trying to format and for each one, no matter what settings or port I use, i get an error similar to these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628310/ shortly before gparted barfs.. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 with kernel 3.5.0-27-lowlatency
[07:32] <histo> Mikeasaurus: np
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> gartral, Do you have them unmounted?
[07:44] <A1Recon> I want to Dual Boot my system with Win7 (Preinstalled) and Ubuntu. I have made a bootable thumb drive using UNetBootin, and I used CHKDSK command in the Win7 and the drive is fine.
[07:45] <A1Recon> I am ready to shrink the volume to somewhere around 20GB
[07:45] <A1Recon> and I am following this http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[07:45] <A1Recon> But what use is GParted??
[07:45] <gartral> wilee-nilee: yes
[07:46] <BluesKaj> windows needs a bit more than 20G
[07:46] <A1Recon> BluesKj I mean for Ubuntu
[07:47] <BluesKaj> 2-g for / , A1Recon?
[07:47] <gartral> BluesKaj: Blasphamy, Windows doesn't need more than 20 gigs as long as you cut out all the bloat, including the localizations you'll never use.
[07:47] <BluesKaj> err 20
[07:47] <A1Recon> Windows and the rest software get around 55GB
[07:47] <BluesKaj> gartral, let's not debate that here
[07:48] <A1Recon> I have 931 Gb for storage
[07:48] <gartral> BluesKaj: fair enough
[07:48] <A1Recon> *GB
[07:48] <A1Recon> So guys what use is GParted??
[07:48] <A1Recon> Cant I just specify which drive to install in?
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> sup all :D, here to support and be supported.
[07:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Altimeter: GParted is alright, I suppose, but its definition of gb differs from both the installer and nautilus
[07:49] <theadmin> A1Recon: Sure you can, GParted has no relationship to installation most of the time (all partitioning can be done from the installer), it's there to modify existing installations (resize,  move, delete partitions)
[07:50] <A1Recon> threadmin: got it
[07:50] <gartral> wilee-nilee: what's weird is, I'm only getting these errors with usb flash drives, I have a bunch of other things connected through usb on this machine, including a scanner, webcam, my usual mouse and keyboard, and my wifi card..
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, YOu can build partitions in gparted or with using the something other manual install. YOu will use the manual anyway to point the install to a HD, and make sure grub goes to that HD's mbr.
[07:50] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, for ubuntu are you going to  create a /home partition or just one / for the whole OS? Yes , ubiquity installer will give partitoning options when you run the install media.
[07:51] <yeehi> chromium is a bit wild on raring 64bit. I have 3 tabs open, and am leaving it alone. Then I notice that Chromium is using 1.9 GB of memory! and the cpu usage for chromium is up to 40% or more... what is going on?
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> gartral, I have a number of usb connects as well, however I would consider that if getting errors. I don't really recognize the errors.
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: I highly suggest a separat /home
[07:51] <A1Recon> separate partition for Ubuntu
[07:52] <gartral> wilee-nilee: i'm afraid i don't quite understand what you mean
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> gartral, In?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> !partition
[07:53] <A1Recon> In http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony it says"Experienced Linux geeks might be wondering where the swap space is going—but don't worry, we'll create one, just not in its own partition." BluesKaj What is the merits/demerits of doing this?
[07:53] <gartral> wilee-nilee: your last post x.x
[07:53] <nobitanobi> Hi guys. Any suggestions on how to check which program/process is consuming my bandwith?
[07:53] <BluesKaj> !partition | A1Recon
[07:53] <qin> yeehi: of flash? test in text only mode?
[07:54] <llutz> A1Recon: if you use a swap-file, you cannot hibernate (with default settings). but hibernation + dualbooting is not advised anyways
[07:54] <yeehi> hi, qin - how do i test flash? in text only mode?
[07:54] <bazhang> nobitanobi, top or htop in terminal
[07:54] <bazhang> nobitanobi, you need to install htop
[07:54] <bazhang> !info htop | nobitanobi
[07:55] <yeehi> ah, qin, in system monitor, it was indicating memory 1.9 Gb
[07:55] <qin> yeehi: open 3 site which do not use any flash, or disable flash plugin
[07:55] <nobitanobi> bazhang, I mean NET bandwith
[07:55] <A1Recon> !partition
[07:55] <qin> nobitanobi: iftop
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> gartral, If you have a number of usb's plugged in: "I have a bunch of other things connected through usb on this machine, including a scanner, webcam, my usual mouse and keyboard, and my wifi card" you might unplug what is not needed, to format a usb to see if you have success. Are you using gparted to unmout the usb's?
[07:55] <theadmin> yeehi: ...Flash is much of a graphical browser plugin. That, and I don't know of any text-only browser which'd support NPAPI.
[07:55] <BluesKaj> A1Recon,  a swap partition is usually fsarer than a swap file , but it's hard to tell
[07:55] <yeehi> ah, ok, i will try that
[07:55] <bazhang> nobitanobi, another top then iftop
[07:55] <BluesKaj> err faster
[07:55] <nobitanobi> bazhang, thanks
[07:55] <bazhang> !info iftop | nobitanobi
[07:56] <nobitanobi> qin, thanks
[07:56] <yeehi> i am not using flash on the pages in chromium i have open.
[07:56] <bazhang> nobitanobi, if you want to shape it , look at trickle/wondershaper
[07:56] <bazhang> !info trickle | nobitanobi
[07:56] <nobitanobi> thanks guys
[07:56] <nobitanobi> really appreaciate