[00:02] <Zharf> hi, does kubuntu livecd come with k3b?
[00:41] <popcornPanic> hi i just installed kde in ubuntu. I have a second monitor plugged in. how do it make the monitor extend instead of clone my original monitor
[00:46] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a way to cap HDD usage for a specifc user in kubuntu?
[00:49] <Jonty_> why can't I install katapult? what has it been replaced with?
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> Jonty_- the regular run dialog (alt-F2) has a lot of the features of katapult now
[00:55] <m4v> Jonty_: i think is krunner
[00:55] <m4v> yeah, that's right
[00:58] <Jonty_> m4v: ohhh
[00:58] <Jonty_> cheers
[00:59] <Jonty_> Dragnslcr too. Thanks.
[01:08] <prometheus77> everytime i go "back" with konquer from a subdirectory to my "home" directory, it never returns like it was before, it always returns one row lower( i always have to scroll up to see the top line each time i go back) HOW DO I FIX THIS CRAP?
[01:08] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: kde4?
[01:09] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: i can't replicate the problem
[01:09] <prometheus77> kde 3.4.2?
[01:09] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: oh.  an old version of kubuntu?
[01:09] <prometheus77> no?
[01:10] <prometheus77> i am just not using kde 4
[01:10] <prometheus77> whatever the latest kde3.x is
[01:10] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: ah.  well... kde4 version doesn't have the bug :-)
[01:10] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: you could file a bug report  (bugs.kde.org)
[01:10] <prometheus77> k :(
[01:10] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: but not sure if it would be fixed.  not many developers use kde3 anymore
[01:11] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: or you could switch to kde4 :-)  kde 4.2 is out soon, and it's pretty stable
[01:11] <cuznt> prometheus do you have dolphin kde4 installed?>
[01:11] <prometheus77> cuznt:  probably
[01:12] <cuznt> try using that instead
[01:12] <prometheus77> i might restart into kde4 to see if it is same bug also
[01:12] <cuznt> i think i had that before
[01:13] <prometheus77> i just hate the feeel of dolphin, it reminds me of gnome....... where did the tabs go in dolphin?
[01:13] <cuznt> good point
[01:14] <cuznt> and what is the red - or the green + mean?
[01:14] <cuznt> when you click on the folder
[01:15] <Tinason> merry christmas
[01:15] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: kde4 has konqueror as well
[01:15] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: dolphin has tabs
[01:16] <Tinason> how does one start a vnc server in kubuntu 8.10?
[01:16] <prometheus77> dolphin has tabs? prove it lol, i just tried and nothing
[01:17] <Tinason> dolphin tabs: ctrl-shift-n
[01:17] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: well in kde4 it does
[01:17] <JohnFlux> File->New tab
[01:17] <JohnFlux> i think the kde3 version doesn't
[01:18] <prometheus77> i must have the kde version
[01:18] <prometheus77> so strange
[01:18] <JohnFlux> Tinason: Add install software
[01:18] <JohnFlux> Tinason: type in 'vnc'
[01:18] <prometheus77> JohnFlux: how do i unstall kde3?
[01:21] <popcornPanic> i have kubuntu and two monitors. how do i make the second monitor extend the other instead of cloning?
[01:22] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: maybe easiest to just get a 8.10 CD and upgrade?
[01:22] <prometheus77> also i just try to install gnome and it says "install(BREAKS)
[01:23] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: do: cat /etc/issue
[01:23] <JohnFlux> prometheus77: what does that say?
[01:26] <prometheus77> k
[01:26] <prometheus77> Ubuntu 8.04.1 \n \l
[01:27] <prometheus77> how to did i upgrade without doing a full reinstall?
[02:12] <cherry2000> hola
[02:13] <cherry2000> hi
[02:13] <cherry2000> i need a download counter program
[02:19] <a> hi
[02:22] <DaSkreech> cherry2000: What?
[02:22] <DaSkreech> !hi
[02:42] <kurumin__> oi
[02:42] <kurumin__> alguem ai
[02:42] <kurumin__> ????????????????
[02:48] <DaSkreech> !pt
[03:24] <rogue780> I'm trying to enable my ATI drivers, but when I click the activate button it just grays out and hangs until I close it. can anyone help me?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> !ati
[03:30] <calamari> hi
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !hi
[03:33] <calamari> tried to boot the kubuntu intrepid desktop cd.. it gets all the way to the kde 4.1 splash and freezes after the 4th activity "icon" is displayed.. ctrl-alt-f1 (etc) are not effective, however the mouse pointer moves.. any ideas ?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> calamari: tried safe vdeo mode?
[03:34] <calamari> no I haven't
[03:35] <calamari> thanks.. that's a good idea
[03:36] <White_Pelican> in kde 4.2 under intrepid, I notice that the (what I call the) taskbar is now blue. I also noticed that when you do mouse overs on the icons, it's white text on a black background.  How do I change the black background?
[03:45] <White_Pelican> is anyone here to answer my question?
[03:45] <p_quarles> !ask | White_Pelican
[03:45] <White_Pelican> I already asked
[03:45] <p_quarles> so you did
[03:46] <p_quarles> White_Pelican: so you're asking how to change the taskbar preview background color, correct?
[03:48] <White_Pelican> correct
[03:48] <p_quarles> okay, well, I haven't seen a GUI option for changing that, but it should be an attribute of the Plasma theme you're using.
[03:50] <p_quarles> so, hypoethically, if you can find where the themes are stored, you could change it; hint: it's not in /usr/share/kde4/config
[03:51] <White_Pelican> ok, how do I actually change the themes? I am very new to kde 4
[03:51] <White_Pelican> have been using kde 3 for years
[03:51] <p_quarles> White_Pelican: I'm saying that I really don't know
[03:51] <White_Pelican> ok, that's fair
[03:51] <DaSkreech> White_Pelican: I think change the theme
[03:51] <White_Pelican> ty for trying
[03:52] <p_quarles> I'm working on the assumption that there is an XML or text file somewhere that defines theme attributes
[03:52] <DaSkreech> White_Pelican: Right click the desktop -> appearance Settings -> theme
[03:52] <p_quarles> if I stumble across such a thing, i'll let you know; otherwise, someone here probably knows, but may be idling at the moment
[03:53] <p_quarles> DaSkreech: you can change the theme, but there is no tool for customizing the themes there
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Ah that's what's needed? yeah probably have to hand roll ot for now
[03:55] <p_quarles> such things are usually in the /usr/share/ area of the filesystem, but I couldn't find it on a quick look; I'm sure it's there somewhere though
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Most likely in ~/.kde/share/apps
[03:56] <p_quarles> no, that would store files owned by the user -- we're looking for something that would be shared by all users on the system, so it would not be in anyone's home directory
[03:59] <DaSkreech> White_Pelican: Are we?
[04:01] <White_Pelican> I just want to, through some kind of control settings, to be able to change themes
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Don't think there are control schemes yet
[04:09] <lkingzin> hello. i have a intel MacBook. What's the easiest way to run kubuntu?
[04:09] <White_Pelican> thanks for all your help folks
[04:09] <White_Pelican> little by little, kde 4 is getting there
[04:10] <p_quarles> White_Pelican: sorry I could offer more; maybe look at kde-look.org for hints
[04:10] <p_quarles> couldn't* :)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> lkingzin: From a LIve Cd
[04:10] <lkingzin> dashreech: thanks... will none of the downloads from the website work?
[04:11] <p_quarles> lkingzin: that *is* a download from the web site . . .
[04:11] <DaSkreech> lkingzin: The downloads from the website is a Live Cd
[04:11] <lkingzin> ah
[04:12] <lkingzin> so for my Intel Macbook, I would select Kunbuntu 8.10, and then a 54bit AMD and Intel computers
[04:12] <lkingzin> then download?
[04:12] <lkingzin> 54 = 64
[04:12] <ace> Русские есть?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> !ru
[04:13] <lkingzin> DaSkreech: whats that?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> lkingzin: If you wanted the 54 Bit edition
[04:13] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[04:13] <DaSkreech> 32 bit or 64 bit is a matter of choice
[04:13] <lkingzin> lol. would the "standard personal computer" download work
[04:14] <lkingzin> on my macbook?
[04:14] <p_quarles> yes
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:14] <legodude> I have a problem where wine crashes X when I try to switch to fullscreen
[04:15] <lkingzin> sweeeet
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Known issue. Should be fixed (hopefully) by  Jaunty
[04:15] <lkingzin> that should be somewhere in the faq page, didn't see it though
[04:15] <legodude> DaSkreech: my issue?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:16] <legodude> is it in launchpad?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> If you have an Intel Mac then you are alright
[04:18] <legodude> grrrr
[04:19] <legodude> seems modesetting messes up the xserver
[04:22] <legodude> grrrr
[04:23] <lkingzin_> okay i have another Q -- can i somehow put the .ISO file onto a thumb drive and boot from that?
[04:23] <bazhang> !usb
[04:27]  * genii hands bazhang a large coffee
[04:29] <White_Pelican> does anyone know how to set up the weather station widgit in 4.2
[04:29] <White_Pelican> ?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Nope :(
[04:30] <White_Pelican> oh well, embryonic stages
[04:31]  * DaSkreech hands genii spiced coffee liqueur
[04:31] <genii> DaSkreech: Yay!
[04:31] <DaSkreech> White_Pelican: No it was working in Beta 1  I think it just got a bad week in Beta 2
[04:31] <DaSkreech> happened to get caught at a non working stage
[04:32] <White_Pelican> ah
[04:32] <White_Pelican> well I am starting to like it but will not switch till 4.2 is official
[04:32] <White_Pelican> the good news is, it's starting to do what I could do in 3.5
[04:33] <White_Pelican> save for some things like themes
[04:33] <White_Pelican> I don't think the average user is going to want to fiddle with a text file in their .kde folder imho
[04:34] <genii> I'm still on 8.04/3.5.10 for this lappie for now
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> I just installed the 4.2 beta today. Very impressed so far
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> Two of the things at the top of my list have been fixed
[04:38] <Dragnslcr> And the updated version of phonon fixed my knotify crashes
[04:46] <DaSkreech> What were the top two?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: ?
[04:50] <Dragnslcr> Quicklaunch widget and multiple rows in the taskbar
[04:54] <legodude> how stable is the beat 4.2?
[04:54] <legodude> and, will it nicely upgrade when the official 4.2 comes out?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Wasn't quick launch in 4.1?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> legodude: Good and yes
[04:57] <legodude> is there a good document somewhere that gives a general overview of ubuntu package environment?
[04:57] <legodude> and how it all interacts?
[04:57] <legodude> can I easily undo 4.2 if I don't like it?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !apt
[04:58] <DaSkreech> legodude: Fairly
[04:59] <legodude> that's not really what I'm looking for
[04:59] <DaSkreech> what were you looking for?
[05:00] <legodude> how are packages created, what about branches, how does one properly track changes to a package
[05:00] <legodude> mostly the second one
[05:00] <DaSkreech> !motu
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Branches?
[05:01] <legodude> some developer puts up a new version of package X on his private repo
[05:01] <legodude> or this beta 4.2
[05:01] <legodude> how exactly does this interact with the official package stream
[05:01] <DaSkreech> right
[05:01] <legodude> I've never gotten a good feel for that
[05:01] <DaSkreech> There is a version number on  each package
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Highest number wins
[05:01] <bazhang> !ppa
[05:01] <legodude> ah
[05:02] <legodude> got it
[05:02] <legodude> thought there was something more to it
[05:02] <legodude> what about package creation?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> So if you add a new repo then it has a higher version number and when your package manager goes through them all the new repo wins and the packages are upgraded
[05:03] <legodude> bazhang: thanks for that link
[05:03] <DaSkreech> I don't understand the last question either
[05:04] <bazhang> try /msg ubottu packaging
[05:04] <corigo2> Ok, so finally am able to get Skype to hear my microphone, but the level and boost have to be so high that all I can hear is the sound from my own microphone and can't hardly hear anything else. Is there anyway to stop the microphone feeding back through the speakers/
[05:04] <corigo2> ?
[05:21] <legodude> upgrade to 4.2 almost done
[05:29] <DaSkreech> how do you like it?
[05:31] <legodude> 4.2
[05:31] <DaSkreech> how do you like it legodude ?
[05:31] <legodude> soooo much nicer
[05:31] <legodude> this is ridiculous
[05:32] <legodude> nothing major from my extensive 3min experience
[05:32] <legodude> but attention to detail is so much better
[05:32] <legodude> jesus
[05:32] <legodude> wow
[05:33] <legodude> I'm really impressed
[05:33] <DaSkreech> :-D
[05:34] <legodude> some stuff is still funky, like my volume buttons don't do anything to amarok sounds
[05:34] <legodude> but overall _much_ nicer
[05:34] <legodude> like, if I put a window under the panel, I can still read app names
[05:36] <legodude> jaunty looks to be what I hoped intrepid would be
[05:36] <legodude> seems faster?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Might be can't judge till Jauny comes out
[05:37] <legodude> can't resize app launcher boo
[05:38] <legodude> my icons in system tray display properly
[05:38] <legodude> not all corrupted as before
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Menu resizes here
[05:39] <legodude> ah you can only grab upper right corner
[05:46] <DaSkreech> yep
[05:47] <legodude> except for some borked widgets
[05:47] <legodude> seems pretty darn nice
[05:49] <legodude> impressive with a capital K
[05:50] <legodude> I take back the evil thoughts I have been having recently
[05:53] <legodude> alright, thanks for the advice and nite
[05:59] <DaSkreech> legodude: Which borked widgets?
[06:36] <scandune> hi
[06:37] <p_quarles> !hello | scandune
[06:37] <scandune> bots?
[06:37] <p_quarles> I'm not, ubottu is
[06:37] <scandune> ah i see
[06:38] <p_quarles> scandune: did you have a support question? :)
[06:38] <scandune> nope just really bored
[06:38] <scandune> well actually i might
[06:39] <scandune> when i leave my laptop on and then i use the web sometimes my panel buttons and desktop icons fail to work so i have to hard restart
[06:40] <scandune> got nothin?
[06:40] <p_quarles> hard restart? meaning that the system is totally unresponsive?
[06:40] <scandune> yeah
[06:40] <scandune> well unresponsive to new programs
[06:40] <p_quarles> can you log out of X?
[06:40] <scandune> new meaning starting a new session
[06:41] <scandune> nope i cant even get into my terminal :(
[06:41] <p_quarles> scandune: what have you specifically tried? ctrl-alt-backspace? ctrl-alt-F2?
[06:41] <scandune> yeah
[06:42] <scandune> sorry about that lost my internet
[06:42] <p_quarles> scandune: so, is there anything that you *can* do at that point?
[06:43] <scandune> well if someone messages me on pidgin i can type back
[06:43] <scandune> but thats about it
[06:44] <scandune> it will let me click on my panel buttons and it will initiale but it will fail
[06:45] <p_quarles> scandune: well, that's definitely a weird one; don't know what to tell you other than to scan your logs for any hints
[06:45] <tupac> https://gnud.wordpress.com/ about ubuntu
[06:45] <p_quarles> scandune: if I had to place money, I'd say it's the video chips
[06:46] <scandune> maybe its the dell mini 9 so i would have thought it would have been ok
[06:46] <scandune> but they did mess with the programming a lil bit
[06:46] <p_quarles> hmm -- well then it might be defective; I'd take it up with Dell
[06:47] <p_quarles> I mean, you have a system that actually shipped with Ubuntu -- take advantage of that :)
[06:47] <scandune> i know
[06:47] <scandune> one of the reasons why i got it
[06:47] <scandune> plus it was only 500
[06:48] <scandune> i tried installing other distros on it, but the sound never worked
[06:48] <scandune> stupid alsa
[06:50] <scandune> another ? is my package manager list always seems to be old meaning i check for new versions but it always reverts back
[06:51] <p_quarles> scandune: for instance?
[06:52] <scandune> it appears in my panel
[06:52] <scandune> to update my list
[06:52] <scandune> i click check
[06:52] <scandune> and then it still says its 8 days old
[06:52] <p_quarles> I mean an example of a package that says it needs updating, but then isn't
[06:52] <scandune> i also did it in terninal
[06:52] <scandune> same deal
[06:53] <scandune> na its just checking the list to see if there is an update available
[06:56] <p_quarles> scandune: so it says there is, but there isn't? I'm not understanding
[07:02] <scandune> ??
[07:02] <scandune> says would you like to check
[07:02] <scandune> so i check and it says my lists are 8 days old so it d/l new ones then reverts back to old
[07:06] <v-dogg> morning
[07:07] <p_quarles> scandune: so you run apt-get update and it does the same thing? sounds like your system is pretty broken; don't know what to say
[07:08] <v-dogg> I installed a fresh 8.10 installation (with kde 4.1). KDE apps keep crashing and I'm wondering if I could get rid of this by using KDE 3.5?
[07:09] <v-dogg> can I easily downgrade to 3.5 or should I just re-install the system (I've been using this for a day now and have installed a bunch of software already :) ?
[07:15] <RurouniJones> reinstall
[07:16] <v-dogg> bugger...
[07:18] <v-dogg> do you reckon that problems (apps crashing) is caused by the kde version?
[08:13] <blackflag> Hello all :) I did an upgrade to server-8.10 with vmware-server2 on it. I have no longer a keyboards in the vm's. Can someone help?
[08:21] <hyper___ch> blackflag: what did you do?
[08:31] <blackflag> I did an upgrade to server-8.10 and to the latest vmware-server2. Now I dont have keybords in the vm-console's
[08:33] <harmental> hey guys...after upgrading to intrepid (and kde 4) my login screen assumes a qwerty keyboard. Once i am logged in my azerty keyboard is promptly recognized....is this a new security feature? :oP Seriously....how can I correct it?
[08:40] <apparle> Whenever I copy data to a USB Flash Disk, it is copied very very slowly(about 200 to 400 kbps) why? in 8.04 it was normal. I am facing this problem ever since I installed 8.10
[08:48] <apparle> is anybody here
[08:50] <apparle_> anyone online
[08:51] <krio> hi people
[08:51] <krio> merry christmas passed and happy new year
[08:52] <krio> now, i lost the icon of knetworkconf
[08:52] <krio> what i can do to have it back?
[08:52] <apparle> how did you lose it
[08:53] <krio> i don't know
[08:53] <krio> i think making the command pppoeconf to terminal
[08:53] <krio> is it possible?
[09:00] <apparle> I am facing a pecular problem, sometimes the computer boots normally, some times it just shows a black screen instead of login screen
[09:02] <krio> by people
[09:25] <mayank> what is the lightest flavour of linux?....ubuntu, kubuntu or something else...???????
[09:26] <apparle> what
[09:34] <akshay> can anybody help me?
[09:46] <apparle> for what
[09:47] <mayank> why is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them?????????
[09:48] <mayank> why is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them?????????
[09:49] <mayank> why is ubuntu & kubuntu keeps logging out in the middle of my work?...512mb of ram really low for them?????????
[09:49] <mayank> anybody???????
[09:51] <apparle> mayank: how does RAM come into this
[09:52] <mayank> so u tell me
[09:53] <mayank> i was using ubuntu and install it 5-10-15 times(wubi) but in the middle of my work...its just freeze or logout...what i do
[09:54] <mayank> now today i  have install kubuntu...same problem...logout in the middle of my work.........
[09:56] <mayank> now today i  have install kubuntu...same problem...logout in the middle of my work.........
[09:56] <mayank> hellllooooooooo?????
[10:13] <Ash-Fox> Can somebody tell me where I can get the ext2 defrag tool is? I can't seem to find it in Ubuntu distros.
[10:14] <slaanesh> hello
[10:15] <slaanesh> I've got a problem when using new kmail 4.2 beta2 under gnome: there is no window decoration around the window...under kde4 it seems to work just fine...does anoyone have an idea about this?
[10:16] <minterior> hi people
[10:17] <minterior> how can I get the text betwen two double quotes? With mawk or sed?
[10:35] <fale> I have an idea that would 'expand' this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySetup . Should I add it or ask Riddell or ask someone else?
[11:43] <Walex3> Ash-Fox: defrag is a rather bad idea. Just copy it, reforma,t and back.
[11:52] <Mad_Rich> Is this the main Kubuntu chat channel or should I be somewhere else?
[11:53] <PolitikerNEU> This is the main kubuntu chat
[11:53] <Mad_Rich> thanks
[11:53] <hyper__ch> how can I in kde4 open a application in a saved session in a specific desktop?
[11:57] <Salze_> hyper__ch: In the window specific settings you can specify a desktop - maybe that would solve your problem.
[11:57] <hyper__ch> I have to try :) tzhx
[12:03] <Mad_Rich> does anyone know if the gtk and compiz issues with KDE4 and the nvidia drivers have been solved by the latest driver release?
[12:03] <cuznt> idk
[12:04] <cuznt> i know that kde has its own effects and you do not need compiz
[12:05] <cuznt> and i have zero nvidia issues
[12:06] <Mad_Rich> ic - but when I tried KDE4 a few months ago there were issues with some gtk apps and some crazy screen effects
[12:07] <Mad_Rich> I googled this and found a bug that said the nvidia driver was to blame
[12:07] <Mad_Rich> but there is a new driver out now
[12:08] <Mad_Rich> so I wondered if anyone knows about this
[12:09] <Mad_Rich> what driver do you have cuznt?
[12:11] <cuznt> hold on
[12:12] <Mad_Rich> will do :)
[12:13] <cuznt> i use a 5500 gforce SO i have nvidia accelerated graphis driver version 173
[12:13] <Mad_Rich> ok - thanks
[12:13] <cuznt> the 1st time did not work
[12:13] <cuznt> i had to uninstalled reboot reload
[12:14] <tomek> helo
[12:14] <cuznt> nvivida can be weird... keep trying it will work. and I am low on the programming geek scale... so if i can do it   ***ANYONE CAN***
[12:14] <Mad_Rich> ty  :)
[12:16] <Mad_Rich> My problem is that I have to decide whether to upgrade again - last time it was so bad I went back to kde 3.5, which was a pita to do
[12:17] <Mad_Rich>  I have KDE4 on my laptop with a intel graphics and it runs fine
[12:29] <cuznt> i would back everything up and do a clean install
[12:30] <cuznt> as big a pita as that it is
[12:31] <cuznt> it was not exactly the correct way to do it.... BUT.... it solved all my issues
[12:31] <dr_willis> Hmm.. My 5500 works here no  issues :
[12:31] <dr_willis> 8800gtsXXX also
[12:31] <dr_willis> but a lot depends on the exact video card it seems
[12:31] <cuznt> mine does too... but i d/l'd a clean install vs upgrade..
[12:32] <cuznt> as i stated my 5500 worls spiffy
[12:32] <cuznt> also
[12:33] <cuznt> i know now when i chose a restriced driver. it was a bit more resolute
[12:33] <Mad_Rich> sorry - went to get a drink
[12:33] <dr_willis> actually my 5500 machine was a upgrade..
[12:34] <Mad_Rich> I have a 6600GT
[12:34] <cuznt> thats a good idea. liquor helps with the frustration.. ;)
[12:34] <Mad_Rich> :)
[12:35] <Mad_Rich> cuznt I agree - I probably will do a clean install this time - just trying to make sure it is worth the effort
[12:36] <cuznt> i use an athalon (not 64) 1.5g ram 160g hard drive. my pc has never run better
[12:36] <cuznt> my issue is i can "see" my wifes pc
[12:36] <cuznt> and she can not see mine
[12:37] <Mad_Rich> did you install samba and share a folder?
[12:37] <cuznt> oh yes
[12:37] <cuznt> Guest?
[12:38] <cuznt> hey i am a musician also.. :)
[12:38] <Mad_Rich> me too as it happens
[12:39] <grma> hi, short question, how do i see the kernel boot printks, and all output from the init process in kubuntu ?
[12:40] <Salze_> grma: I think dmesg provides what you want to see.
[12:40] <Mad_Rich> do you mean during boot?
[12:40] <grma> yes i know dmesg, but i want to see it direct on starting
[12:40] <grma> i have included some scripts in rc.local, but the do not run, so i want to see the error whay
[12:41] <Salze_> You could try switching to console 12 - I guess it's printed there. Or on 2, maybe.
[12:41] <grma> s/whay/why
[12:41] <Mad_Rich> you need to change menu.lst in /boot/grub
[12:41] <grma> ahh ok, thanks will try
[12:41] <grma> ok, ah there is quiet enabled in grub
[12:41] <Mad_Rich> yes
[12:41] <grma> thx will try
[12:41] <dennister> merry xmas channel...need some help getting my sound restored after I removed a tuner from the box...no driver even shows up in kmix
[12:42] <Mad_Rich> get rid of quiet and splash
[12:42] <cuznt> did you ensure sound was not diabled in bios?
[12:43] <cuznt> !sound
[12:43] <dennister> i haven't checked it recently, but it was certainly enabled in bios...worked fine before
[12:44] <cuznt> maybe someting else jarred loose.
[12:44] <dennister> i removed tuner, removed single set of mono speakers for a few days, and did expect sound to work again after i reattached speakers, but no...
[12:44] <dennister> perhaps...but why wouldn't my old driver show up in kmixer?
[12:45] <cuznt> if nothing is attached kmix shows nothing
[12:45] <cuznt> wheni take out my sound card. i get an empty kmix
[12:46] <cuznt> its possible the driver does not load if it does not see the hardware ?    ???
[12:46] <Guest37426> Kopote crashes when i click conffiguuure. i think it it my TV card. can someone heeeelp?
[12:46] <dennister> hmmm...ok...that would make sense, except that i've got onboard sound...
[12:46] <cuznt> ah
[12:47] <cuznt> as do i but its disabled im bios
[12:47] <cuznt> sis on board sound was horrendous
[12:48] <cuznt> then just try rebooting
[12:48] <cuznt> maybe the driver did not load
[12:49] <dennister> wait...seems i've got both onboard sound and sound card...so onboard stuff is probably disabled...will open box to verify good seating, and hope kmix shows a driver when i boot up again
[12:49] <dennister> cuznt: thx...never saw an empty kmix driver field before
[12:49] <dennister> cya in a few...
[12:50] <cuznt> i did because i was trying to get my creative to wrk
[12:52] <seanw__> I seem to have this bug...bbut it wwwas fixed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174390
[12:53] <Mad_Rich> I installed oss to get the best out of my sound card
[12:54] <grma> ok, now i see my boot script in rc.local
[12:54] <grma> can i tell the init proces of kubuntu, that it has to wait and not tu switch to kdm until the rc.local is finished ?
[12:55] <Mad_Rich> hmm
[12:55] <grma> the problem is in rc.local i mount my truecrypt fs, and home is in truecrypt
[12:56] <grma> the same way i do it on fedora and suse, there the boot local script waits then i can enter the truecrypt password and then switches to kdm
[12:57] <Mad_Rich> I think it must be possible, but I'm afraid I would have to google for the right script to edit
[12:57] <grma> :)
[13:10] <_lumm> gajim isnt saving his posittion anymore on kde4 :(
[13:13] <runpain2> God Day All
[13:13] <runpain2> I have a nvidia logo shows up at boot before login how do i get rid of it from start up
[13:14] <dennister> kmix driver field still empty...onboard snd disabled in bios, sound card seated firmly...
[13:16] <guiterb> how to install a driver?
[13:16] <Mad_Rich> runpain2 - I think there is a nologo command you can put into the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[13:16] <dr_willis> guiterb,  depends on what driver you are refering to
[13:16] <dennister> also checked syslog and dmesg...done't see mention of snd_via82xx mentioned, although it is in /etc/modules
[13:16] <runpain2> ok will look in to that
[13:17] <Mad_Rich> but don't play with this unless you are confident cos it's easy to screw up your x server
[13:17] <dennister> of course, perhaps i'm not looking in logs properly...
[13:17] <guiterb> net card
[13:17] <Mad_Rich> runpain2 - I would google around a bit to check the syntax
[13:18] <runpain2> sure yhanks Mad_Rich
 can you help me ?
[13:18] <dr_willis> guiterb,  not without more details.  This wireless or wired?
[13:18] <dennister> could someone please refresh my memory as to check to see if sound driver is loaded?
[13:19] <Mad_Rich> lsmod
[13:19] <dennister> it was working fine until a few days ago...ok, i did lsmod...the right sound driver is in there
[13:20] <dennister> the terminal command to check out what alsamixer dtects?
[13:20] <Mad_Rich> look in alsamixer
[13:21] <Mad_Rich> I think it's F2 in alsamixer - can't check cos i ude oss
[13:21] <Mad_Rich> use
[13:22] <dennister> tried a simple 'alsamixer' in terminal...error message: alsamixer: function snd_ctrl_open failed for default: no such file or directory
[13:22] <Mad_Rich> hmm - maybe alsa is borked
[13:23] <dennister> perhaps...would that cause the driver field in kmixer to be empty?
[13:23] <Mad_Rich> I get the same response - but that is cos I killed alsa to install oss
[13:23] <Muzer> OK, just switched back after using openSUSE for a few months and not being impressed
[13:23] <Muzer> couple of problems
[13:24] <Muzer> 1) The resolution defaults to 1280x1024 until I go into the KDE display settings manager when it "realises" it's supposed to be in 1024x768
[13:24] <guiterb> wireless
[13:24] <Muzer> that won't matter much thoug, I'm just using a crap monitor ATM, will switch soon to a much better one
[13:25] <Mad_Rich> dennister - I'm sure a borked alsa would cause kmix not to have a driver listed
[13:25] <Muzer> 2) Dispite me installing them, the non-free NVIDIA drivers don't appear to be used, but because the xorg.conf is so borked I can't really tell
[13:25] <Muzer> how can I tell for sure?
[13:27] <dennister> ok, but i never had to install alsa on this system...sound worked out of the box...does that 'oob' mean alsa is installed in default system?
[13:27] <Mad_Rich> yes
[13:27] <dennister> ok, will purge and reinstall sound...i do know how to do that, but just never borked alsa before ...lol
[13:27] <Mad_Rich> unless you are on kde4
[13:28] <dennister> no...don't like kde4
[13:28] <Mad_Rich> ok cos that has pulse audio, which i know nothing about
[13:29] <dennister> i have used pulse, back when i was testing and workiing with speakup for blind users
[13:29] <rjune__> alsa is part of the kernel
[13:29] <dennister> but yes, pulse is not that stable,...had to remove it from test system that was using speakup
[13:30] <cuznt>  system trau JUST bugged out
[13:30] <Mad_Rich> well I have not got round to pulse - preferring oss
[13:31] <OxDeadC0de> pulse rocks for networked sound
[13:32] <cuznt> tray rather
[13:32] <OxDeadC0de> you using 4.2b2?
[13:33] <Taggnostr> hello
[13:34] <Mad_Rich> My problem was no working alsa driver for my laptop
[13:34] <Taggnostr> i'm having some problem with the bluetooth, i can send files from the pc to the phone but i can't do the opposite, even if i paired the devices
[13:34] <Mad_Rich> and I wanted 5.1 and software mixing for my desktop
[13:35] <Mad_Rich> cuznt - did you say your tray bugged out
[13:35] <Taggnostr> i checked on the manual and it says that i can retrieve file in the phone from the pc, but it talks about kbluetoothd and i have kbluetooth and the options are different
[13:35] <Mad_Rich> cos that was my problem on kde4
[13:36] <OxDeadC0de> Mad_Rich 4.2 beta2 fix's all the issues with the tray, 4.2 will be nice
[13:36] <cuznt> yes
[13:36] <Taggnostr> do you know if they are two different programs, how can i install kbluetoothd or how can i send files from the phone to the pc?
[13:36] <OxDeadC0de> And offers multi-line task bars, autohiding, more widgets, lots of stuff
[13:37] <cuznt> spacing went berserk
[13:37] <cuznt> and all my minimized apps are not showing
[13:37] <Mad_Rich> thanks OxDeadC0de
[13:37] <Mad_Rich> maybe it's time to give it a try
[13:37] <cuznt> will i do anything? no... because i am ... transferring music from my mini disc to hard drive w/ audacity
[13:38] <Mad_Rich> :)
[13:38] <OxDeadC0de> just remember beta2 has a lot of bugs in it, it's still better imo than 4.1.3, but still not ready for say commercial deployment
[13:38] <cuznt> arrrrrgh.. when does 4.2 beta comenzie out like?
[13:39] <OxDeadC0de> comenzie?
[13:39] <Mad_Rich> OxDeadC0de - I can live with that
[13:39] <Mad_Rich> come
[13:39] <OxDeadC0de> read the topic :), it's out
[13:39] <Mad_Rich> in german I think
[13:39] <cuznt> when 4 first came out plasma crashed after the 1st reboot and would no longer play nice
[13:39] <OxDeadC0de> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[13:39] <cuznt> i was being puny
[13:39] <cuznt> sorry
[13:39] <Mad_Rich> :)
[13:39] <cuznt> come...
[13:40] <OxDeadC0de> ^^
[13:40] <OxDeadC0de> Oh and get hot new stuff fails installing and upgrading plasmoids in 4.2beta2 btw, you have to manually install them
[13:41] <Mad_Rich> np  :)
[13:41] <dennister> lol...sound card isn't even listed in lspci -v...methinks it died...luckily I have others...back after i swap it
[13:41] <OxDeadC0de> well, since there's only 4 on there.. not a huge issue.. plasmapkg -r numberpackage.plasmoid  - then plasmapkg -i xxxxxx.plasmoid
[13:41] <guiterb> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-386/build M=/opt/ipwraw-ng modules
[13:41] <guiterb> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-386/build: 没有该文件或目录。 停止。
[13:41] <guiterb> make: *** [modules] 错误 2
[13:41] <guiterb> who can help me?
[13:42] <OxDeadC0de> I can't read chinese
[13:43] <guiterb> 没有该文件或目录。 there isn't the file or rm stop
[13:43] <OxDeadC0de> oh, mad_rich, after you upgrade, you have to check out activities, it's virtual desktops for plasma widgets, so you can have different backgrounds and widgets.. there's supposedly a way to tie it into the virtual desktop system so your expo wall or whatever has different plasmoids running on each
[13:44] <Taggnostr> is kbluetoothd different from kbluetooth?
[13:44] <Mad_Rich> nice
[13:44] <Mad_Rich> Taggnostr - I haven't done any bluetooth stuff - sorry
[13:45] <guiterb> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash
[13:46] <guiterb> what is"WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash"?
[13:46] <Taggnostr> apparently all the documentation i have refers to kbluetoothd but i only have kbluetooth and it's different
[13:46] <Mad_Rich> seems like it
[13:46] <guiterb>  <OxDeadC0de>i cant't understand it clearly
[13:46] <Mad_Rich> maybe someone else will help you later
[13:47] <Taggnostr> ok
[13:48] <Mad_Rich> I can't see kbluetoothd listed in adept
[13:48] <eagles0513875> !info kbluetoothd
[13:49] <eagles0513875> Mad_Rich: there is ur answer
[13:49] <Taggnostr> it says "Usually, kbluetoothd and the servers managed by it should work out of the box. But there are still some options you can change. To configure kbluetoothd, you can either use the KDE control center and go to Internet & Network -> Bluetooth services, or right-click the kbluetoothd tray icon and select Configuration -> Services..."
[13:49] <eagles0513875> !obex
[13:49] <eagles0513875> !info obex
[13:49] <eagles0513875> Taggnostr: what version are you running intrepid or hardy
[13:49] <Taggnostr> in internet & network i only have 'paired bluetooth devices'
[13:49] <Taggnostr> hardy
[13:50] <eagles0513875> Taggnostr: for bluetooth settings you need to use the obex server for bluetooth
[13:50] <eagles0513875> thats what used to be in previous versions not sure what is in intrepid
[13:51] <Taggnostr> if i right-click on the tray icon there's configuration and i can check 'obex server', but there's no 'services' and even if i check it it doesn't work
[13:51] <eagles0513875> Taggnostr: obex is usually installed out of the box
[13:52] <Taggnostr> yep, and i can send files to the phone, but when i try to send files from the phone to the pc it says 'connected to the phone' here and then 'sending failed' on the phone
[13:53] <eagles0513875> Taggnostr: not 100% sure to be honest have seen a friend try it and i forgot what he did to get it to work :(
[13:53] <Taggnostr> i can't find a way to tell it to accept automatically the connection or ask, it seems that it just blocks it, even if i paired them
[13:53] <eagles0513875> !bluetooth
[13:53] <eagles0513875> Taggnostr: that link might help you out
[13:53] <Taggnostr> let's see
[13:53] <bebe> i instaled sendmail on my ubuntu 8.04, i send an e-mail , looked into the mail.log and the mail is send  ,but i don`t receive it :/
[13:53] <bebe> anyone got any ideea ?
[13:54] <eagles0513875> bebe: you might get more help from #sendmail channel
[13:54] <bebe> noone there to help me :/
[13:54] <eagles0513875> :(
[13:54] <eagles0513875> i havent messed around with sendmail much so i probably wont be of much help to you
[13:54] <Mad_Rich> try later perhaps
[13:54] <bebe> thanks for ya answer
[13:55] <bebe> recomend me another mail program ?
[13:55] <eagles0513875> no prob
[13:55] <bebe> that works ?
[13:55] <eagles0513875> bebe: sendmail is the best one out there
[13:55] <Mad_Rich> I use thundirbird
[13:55] <eagles0513875> Mad_Rich: he wants a mail server
[13:55] <Mad_Rich> thunderbird
[13:55] <bebe> i need the sendmail for my gnuworld
[13:55] <eagles0513875> bebe: i think i might have some info for ya
[13:55] <Mad_Rich> ic
[13:55] <Muzer> OK, got wobbly windows and most other effects working
[13:55] <Muzer> but not cube
[13:56] <bebe> ok eagles0513875
[13:56] <eagles0513875> bebe: mind if i pm ya
[13:57] <RurouniJones> If you have a package and need the latest and greatest version of the program said package provides, is there a way of finding out if there is a roadmap for releasing it available?
[13:57] <dennister> ok, issue solved: actual card had died...sound works fine now that i've swapped the hardware
[13:57] <Mad_Rich> nice one dennister
[13:58] <eagles0513875> bebe: have you taken a look at the sendmail.cf file
[13:59] <farid> Hi All. Why is updating slow on Kubuntu when it's fast for Windows ?
[13:59] <bebe> what to edit there eagle ?
[13:59] <Mad_Rich> It's a long time since I used an irc channel - can anybody remind me the quick way to insert someones nick in my text?
[14:00] <Dragnslcr> Mad_Rich- most IRC clients have tab completion
[14:00] <Mad_Rich> ty - let me try
[14:01] <Mad_Rich> Dragnslcr: cool  :)
[14:02] <Mad_Rich> like I say a loooong time  :(
[14:03] <dennister> Mad_Rich: just type in the first few letters of the nick and press tab
[14:03] <Mad_Rich> dennister: got it - thanks
[14:04] <dennister> yeah...just got back and what Dragnslcr advised probably helped you before my hint, heheheh
[14:04] <Mad_Rich> :)
[14:04] <Mad_Rich> all help is good help
[14:06] <dennister> just doing another system install here, going back and forth between this server and new system with the kvm...
[14:08] <dennister> anyone using utorrent 1.9 under wine to evade bell canada's throttling? works quite nicely for me :)
[14:09] <Mad_Rich> dennister: I use ktorrent, but I'm in the UK
[14:09] <eagles0513875> this is kinda offtopic guys
[14:09] <dennister> uk isps throttle too
[14:09] <Mad_Rich> true
[14:09] <Mad_Rich> pm
[14:15] <Muzer> hmm
[14:15] <Muzer> can't seem to enable 4 desktops
[14:15] <Muzer> the setting reverts back
[14:15] <Muzer> does it require a restart or something?
[14:17] <Mad_Rich> try restarting x server
[14:18] <Walex3> Muzer: is that 4 desktops or 4 monitors?
[14:18] <Mad_Rich> ctrl-alt-backdelete
[14:18] <Muzer> 4 desktops
[14:18] <Muzer> not 4 monitors
[14:18] <Muzer> I know how to restart X, btw, just want to avoid it if possible
[14:18] <Walex3> Muzer: then that has nothing to do with X windows, only with the Window Manager.
[14:19] <Walex3> Muzer: which is KWin, if you are using Kubuntu
[14:19] <Muzer> which is KDE in this case (Kubuntu...)
[14:19] <Muzer> :p
[14:19] <Muzer> OK, KWin
[14:19] <Muzer> whatever
[14:19] <Muzer> :p
[14:19] <Walex3> Muzer: to condifure 4 viortual desktops just bring up the KWin config panel and enable it.
[14:20] <Mad_Rich> sorry Muzer - not trying to preach to the choir
[14:21] <buchs> I just installed the KDE4.2 beta and found that my window decorations no longer show up.  Any thoughts on the cause of that?
[14:26] <legodude_> 4.2, sooooo much nicer
[14:43] <jingzhuzhu> lag?
[14:57] <HappySmileMan> Can anyone explain the difference between "kwin" and "kde-window-decorator" packages? I have the latter installed, but "kwin" exists at same version in same repo
[15:07] <cuznt> well it kind of fixed my task bar
[15:07] <cuznt> now i just can not adjust where everything goes....
[15:15]  * Taggnostr fixed the bluetooth
[15:23] <eagles0513875> Taggnostr: what was wrong with it
[15:23] <eagles0513875> and i need a vnc server package what does one recommend
[15:23] <eagles0513875> !info vnc
[15:23] <jussi01> !info x11vnc
[15:24] <eagles0513875> ty jussi01 with that then i should be able to vnc into this desktop from even a windows machine
[15:24] <Salze_> eagles0513875: tightvnc
[15:24] <jussi01> I imagine so...
[15:24] <eagles0513875> Salze_: ty
[15:24] <eagles0513875> and ty jussi01
[15:24] <Taggnostr> eagles0513875, i don't know, i've broken it and when i fixed it started to work properly
[15:25] <Salze_> eagles0513875: depending on your needs you might want to have a look at www.nomachine.com, too.
[15:39] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, im trying to install sysinfo for konqueror but I get invalid protocol. anyone know why? I installed kio-sysinfo
[15:39] <Zeelot3k> I get invalid protocol when I try to use it
[15:47] <tupac> https://gnud.wordpress.com/
[15:55] <bazhang> tupac, dont paste that here
[15:57] <bobo99> hey all
[15:57] <bobo99> i'm new bie with ubuntu
[15:59] <jussi01> bobo99: do you have a question?
[15:59] <clara-17> hello
[16:00] <legodude> hello
[16:00] <bobo99> how to remote my server ? with remote desktop like in windows
[16:00] <legodude> !vnc
[16:00] <clara-17> itś first time i am here
[16:00] <legodude> welcome
[16:00] <bobo99> if i'm client?
[16:00] <Salze_> bobo99: There are different ways. VNC, www.nomachine.com
[16:00] <legodude> bobo99: vnc is probably easiest
[16:00] <legodude> or freenx as it says
[16:01] <legodude> !freenx
[16:01] <jussi01> bobo99: you have a server setup and want to connect to it?
[16:01] <bobo99> yes
[16:01] <jussi01> bobo99: kmenu, then internet, then KRDC
[16:01] <eagles0513875> hey guys i need soem help with x11vnc i am unable to connect to my linux box
[16:02] <jussi01> eagles0513875: check your firewall
[16:02] <jussi01> eagles0513875: x11vnc is the server iirc...
[16:02] <bobo99> ok i will try first
[16:02] <eagles0513875> jussi01 i did an nmap on the linux box nad the remote desktop port 5900 which i found googling isnt open
[16:03] <eagles0513875> and im guessing i need to port forward and open it on windows firewall
[16:03] <jussi01> eagles0513875: Id guess itd be somethign like that
[16:04] <bobo99> to connect with vpn server?
[16:04] <eagles0513875> vnc
[16:04] <bobo99> coz if you talk about port, is it mean of remote desktop?
[16:05] <eagles0513875> bobo99 O_o what do u mean
[16:05] <eagles0513875> jussi01 im guessing the port is tcp and not udp or both
[16:06] <bobo99> If i get connect to vpn server
[16:06] <seanW__> How do i change the login sound?
[16:07] <jussi01> bobo99: vpn and vnc are very different
[16:07] <bobo99> then i can connect to the other server that connect to my vpn server
[16:07] <Salze_> seanW__: Systemsettings -> Notifications
[16:07] <bobo99> I try the vnc
[16:07] <eagles0513875> jussi01 this still isnt working
[16:07] <eagles0513875> i have port forwarded and firewall open
[16:08] <eagles0513875> on this windows boxc
[16:08] <jussi01> eagles0513875: Im a little busy, hopefully someone else has time
[16:09] <eagles0513875> anyone else able to help me with some vnc issues
[16:12] <Fargh> hiya fellas
[16:12] <eagles0513875> hey
[16:13] <HappySmileMan> Anyone want to link me to a good vimrc file for C++, or somewere explaining them? I can't seem to find anything other than generic examples
[16:14] <seanW__> What about sounds for KDM?
[16:16] <eagles0513875> seanW__ need more information as to ur issue to be able to help
[16:18] <seanW__> is there a way to add sounds for kdm events?
[16:21] <Salze_> No. BTW: what would those events be?
[16:21] <seanW__> invalid password
[16:21] <seanW__> accepted password
[16:22] <Salze_> I guess there would be no difference between an accepted password and a login.
[16:23] <seanW__> yes...idk what i was thinking
[16:24] <Salze_> You can configure the sound on login as said above.
[16:26] <bobo99> hey all
[16:26] <bobo99> if i use vnc i must install vnc server at my server?
[16:27] <bobo99> if my vpn server with windows os, n i want to connect but without vnc.Do you have alternative?
[16:27] <Salze_> RDP
[16:28] <bobo99> remote desktop protocol?
[16:28] <Salze_> Yes.
[16:28] <bobo99> but i must connect to VPN first
[16:28] <bobo99> how?
[16:29] <eagles0513875> vpn what do you need vpn and where is your server first of all
[16:29] <Salze_> That depends on your vpn.
[16:29] <eagles0513875> bobo99 if you are in same location as the server you can just vnc
[16:29] <eagles0513875> bobo99 vpn is when you want to access the server when you are outside the company lan
[16:29] <bobo99> yup
[16:29] <bobo99> i'm outside the company lan
[16:30] <bobo99> sorry i forget to tell it first
[16:30] <bobo99> i must to connect to windows VPN first
[16:31] <eagles0513875> !vpn | bobo99
[16:32] <bobo99> hmm it's for make vpn server
[16:33] <bobo99> if i'm a client of windows server, but i want to connect with my ubuntu
[16:33] <bobo99> what application i can use?
[16:34] <Salze_> That depends on your vpn.
[16:34] <bobo99> can you describe deeply
[16:34] <bobo99> if my vpn with vnc i always can use vnc too
[16:35] <Salze_> vnc and vpn are two totally different things.
[16:35] <bobo99> vnc is tools
[16:35] <bobo99> VPN is protocols?
[16:35] <Salze_> vnc is remote desktop sharing, vpn is ip security.
[16:35] <bobo99> virtual private
[16:35] <eagles0513875> Salze_ :( im having some nasty issues
[16:36] <eagles0513875> with anything vpn related its like vpn is broken but it could be just me ovista
[16:36] <bobo99> what is that?
[16:36] <Salze_> ?
[16:36] <eagles0513875> brb
[16:36] <W8TAH> where can i find some themes for the kde login manager -- right now ive only got the oxygen theme available
[16:37] <bobo99> brb i want to go home....maybe better i learn java to make application in linux
[16:37] <olegb> W8TAH: install the kde-kdm-themes package ?
[16:38] <W8TAH> olegb: thanks
[16:39] <bobo99> ok :Salze, :eagles0513875 thanks for your time....
[16:39] <bobo99> see you all
[16:39] <Salze_> bobo99: Good luck, have a nice day.
[16:51] <Fargh> i upgraded to new KDE 4.1 ... where is that GUI to handle the filesystem ?
[16:52] <Salze_> Fargh: dolphin
[16:52] <Fargh> no thats a filemanager
[16:52] <Fargh> i need to mount USB drives
[16:52] <Fargh> in system settings in advanced it used to be there
[16:52] <Salze_> Fargh: you can do that in dolphin.
[16:52] <Fargh> ow
[16:53] <Fargh> i hated dolphin before
[16:53] <Fargh> one sec
[16:53] <Fargh> where in dolphin is that +
[16:54] <Salze_> On the left side.
[16:55] <legodude> anyone know where to turn the screen saver password off in kde 4.2?
[16:55] <Fargh> i get an error about it to mount it as root or rebuild it
[16:57] <Fargh> Salze_: more hints +
[16:57] <Fargh> ?
[16:57] <Salze_> legodude: systemsettings -> desktop (the first icon, first row), screen saver
[16:57] <eagles0513875> legodude ask in #kde
[16:57] <Salze_> Fargh: mount it as root or rebuild it <- try that
[16:57] <Salze_> Fargh: from the console
[16:58] <mrunagi> bah can anyone help me figure out why the kubuntu network manager only gives me the option for wep when my network is wpa?
[16:58] <Fargh> i wish i knew the commands
[16:58] <Fargh> hence the reason to find the gui :)
[16:59] <eagles0513875> Fargh you want to mount ur usb
[16:59] <Fargh> yep
[16:59] <eagles0513875> Fargh i can help ya in a sec on mounting with commands brb really fast
[16:59] <legodude> Salze_: that's not it :(
[16:59] <eagles0513875> legodude kde4.2 is still beta till january at some poiint you would be better off asking in #kde channel bro
[16:59] <jennifer> hello y'all
[16:59] <eagles0513875> brb
[16:59] <eagles0513875> hey jennifer :)
[16:59] <eagles0513875> brb
[17:00] <Fargh> /dev/sdc1         /media/mybook      auto defaults,user,auto,umask=000 0 0
[17:00] <Fargh> /dev/sdd1         /media/external    auto defaults,user,auto,umask=000 0 0
[17:00] <Fargh> this is in my /etc/fstab
[17:00] <Fargh> guess something is wrong
[17:00] <jennifer> i have a question about the Lenmark 9500 drive
[17:01] <p_quarles> Fargh: why are you using fstab for removable media?
[17:01] <jennifer> i was told that my Dell 680 printer would work if i installed a Lenmark 9500 driver on my computer
[17:01] <Fargh> p_quarles: what else to use ?
[17:01] <mrunagi> !ntfs
[17:01] <Fargh> i want to have them mounted upon boot
[17:01] <eagles0513875> back
[17:01] <Fargh> for all users
[17:02] <jennifer> wb
[17:02] <p_quarles> Fargh: so they're not really removable, then? you want them always-on?
[17:02] <Fargh> yep
[17:03] <eagles0513875> ty jennifer not sure about your issue have u checked dells website now that they are supporting linux they might have a driver for your printer
[17:03] <Fargh> i'll read that page first
[17:03] <jennifer> the printer I have isnt supported by Linux
[17:03] <eagles0513875> jennifer so dell has no driver for it
[17:03] <jennifer> i just got Linux installed on my comp a few weeks ago; no they dont
[17:03] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[17:04] <jennifer> but i was told on here that that Lenmark driver would work
[17:04] <eagles0513875> jennifer this issue is a first normally all printers at least ones i have tried work out of the box
[17:05] <jennifer> then how do i get the driver and what not
[17:05] <eagles0513875> !info dell
[17:09] <riorio> when I select to show icons on my desktop Kubuntu displays the files in my home folder.  How do I make it show the files in my desktop folder instead?
[17:09] <riorio> there is nothing to select in my system settings
[17:09] <mrunagi> !recompile
[17:10] <riorio> is recomplie a command?
[17:11] <mrunagi> no
[17:12] <Dragnslcr> riorio- in KDE 4?
[17:12] <Armagguedes> hello
[17:12] <Armagguedes> are nvidia's proprietary drivers working again or not?
[17:12] <riorio> no, not 4, earlier
[17:13] <riorio> well, that is I did try to install KDE 4 a while ago but something went wrong
[17:14] <riorio> but I think I'm still on 3.x
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> I don't remember how you set which directory is shown on the desktop in KDE 3
[17:15] <riorio> ok :(
[17:15] <riorio> but should I do it in a terminal?
[17:16] <riorio> or is there supposed to be some settings in the system settings?
[17:22] <dstar> anyone know a way to change the tooltip delay when I mouse over icons? E.G., it takes forever to show me my battery status....
[17:29] <dstar> and is it possible to get the taskbar to autohide?
[17:30] <pol> ciao ra
[17:33] <snail_> hey
[17:34] <eagles0513875> !it | pol
[17:35] <pol> grazie ciao
[17:39] <riorio> eagles0513875, is there a Swedish Kubuntu channel?
[17:39] <riorio> I just now about #ubuntu-se
[17:40] <eagles0513875> !se | riorio
[17:40] <eagles0513875> riorio :) that help ya out
[17:40] <dstar> Er. _can_ panels autohide in the current Kubuntu?
[17:40] <riorio> :) eagles0513875 like ten peole in there
[17:41] <riorio> no action
[17:41] <riorio> *in #kubuntu-se
[17:44] <riorio> dstar, what panels?
[17:45] <riorio> dstar, try to right cklick it
[17:50] <dstar> riorio: the main one at the bottom of my screen (would be the taskbar in windows, but I don't know what KDE calls it). Right clicking lets me select 'panel settings', but that's a very... non-intuitive thing, and it doesn't seem to have any options.
[17:51] <riorio> dstar, it does here
[17:51] <dstar> hmmm
[17:51] <riorio> my Kubuntu is speaking swedish, but you should find an option for "hide"
[17:52] <dstar> aha... are you on 8.10?
[17:52] <tupac> kubuntu is so fake
[17:53] <bazhang> !ot > tupac
[17:54] <tupac> yes
[17:54] <bazhang> tupac, this is kubuntu support please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[17:55] <dstar> riorio: Where do you see the 'hide' option? In the first thing that comes up when you right-click, or do you have to click 'panel settings'?
shat up
[17:56] <riorio> dstar, first click panel settings, then there should be a hide option
[17:56] <p_quarles> tupac: weren't you banned yesterday? please leave
[17:56] <p_quarles> !op
[17:57] <dstar> riorio: All I see on panel settings is three document looking icons (align left, center, or right), add wiget, lock widgets, and remove this panel
[17:58] <riorio> dstar, it is possible that your version of kde is newer than mine
[18:01] <dstar> riorio: Possibly, or older (just installed, and started with ubuntu before remembering just _why_ it is that I hate Gnome with the burning passion of a thousand suns)
[18:02] <riorio> dstar, anyways, there should be a simple menu for changing that
[18:03] <riorio> there is here for sure
[18:03] <Schuenemann> I can't play DVDs. I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu but still can't play.
[18:03] <riorio> can't imagine Kubuntu to be much different on newer versions
[18:04] <riorio> good night
[18:04] <mrunagi_> !ip
[18:05] <mrunagi_> how do i view ip information on my network such as default gateways
[18:05] <p_quarles> mrunagi_: /sbin/ifconfig -a
[18:06] <mrunagi_> which one is default gateway
[18:09] <p_quarles> mrunagi_: what are you attempting to do?
[18:09] <mrunagi_> make sure my ips are right
[18:10] <p_quarles> mrunagi_: according to what? is something not working, or are you trying to configure something?
[18:11] <rogue780> when I try to install anything adept now I get the error: "Package download failed, Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." anyone know how to fix this?
[18:11] <mrunagi_> just curious how brighthouse set up this network
[18:11] <p_quarles> mrunagi_: if you're using DHCP, for instance, this stuff is all automatic; if you want static address, that's another story
[18:12] <Mad_Rich> ifconfig will show current ip etc
[18:12] <Mad_Rich> route will show default gateway
[18:12] <FisherPrice> Hi, I've just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and now I don't have my NVidia card working. After I've tried Envy OR the "Hardware Drivers" I get this error... http://pastebin.com/m6d638c3f
[18:12] <FisherPrice> any ideas people?
[18:13] <FisherPrice> one more thing... in the middle of the upgrade my computer overheated and shutdown :S
[18:14] <rogue780> that sounds like a cooling issue...I'd recommend a new fan and some good thermal compound
[18:14] <kimetz>  /join #apertium
[18:14] <FisherPrice> that doesn'
[18:14] <FisherPrice> that doesn't fix my nvidia issue now though
[18:15] <rogue780> no
[18:15] <rogue780> !nvidia
[18:19] <rogue780> when I try to install anything with adept I get the error: "Package download failed, Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." anyone know how to fix this?
[18:20] <rogue780> could it be because I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:20] <FisherPrice> have you tried "sudo dpkg-recongure -a"
[18:20] <FisherPrice> have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[18:21] <rogue780> no, what will that do?
[18:21] <FisherPrice> might fix broken packages....
[18:21] <red22> how do i enable compiz effects in kde pls?  i have it all working in gnome, just installed kde but don't have compiz starting up automatically here.  anyone please know?
[18:22] <rogue780> red22, it's under system settings, desktop, effects
[18:22] <rogue780> it's sort of compiz...not sure if it is actually compiz or not, but some of the same effects exist
[18:22] <killermach> I ripped my seminar into ogg files with grip, now I need to convert them to mp3 to my portable player will play them..can someone point me to a tutorial on this .. thanks
[18:23] <HappySmileMan> It's KWin's own effects, but has the cube, transparency, etc.
[18:24] <rogue780> killermach, have you checked the forums?
[18:24] <rogue780> killermach, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-142619.html
[18:26] <red22> rogue780: i have no such app/icon in the systemsettings window.. perhaps the one just named Desktop?  Ok i see desktop effects options in that app... but i can't just use my straight up compiz  like it's configured in my gnome session?
[18:28] <red22> rogue780: i want to have emerald drawn window borders and everything.  i tried enabling compiz with "compiz-switch" but kde gets very angry in my next restart and freezes on login... until i remove my ,kde folder and start fresh again...
[18:29] <rogue780> red22, AFAIK, compiz doesn't translate to kubuntu, sadly...they prefer to use kwin effects
[18:30] <red22> rogue780:wow.  that's kindof a heartbreaker, really.  ok i'll try to look into that then.  i gotta take care of something but i'll be back in 15 mins.  let me know if you find anything and i'll do the same. thanks for the help.
[18:31] <Mad_Rich> !kde4
[18:45] <DaSkreech> I missed it what breaks hearts?
[18:48] <jussi01> DaSkreech: [20:29:51] <red22> rogue780: i want to have emerald drawn window borders and everything.  i tried enabling compiz with "compiz-switch" but kde gets very angry in my next restart and freezes on login... until i remove my ,kde folder and start fresh again...
[18:48] <DaSkreech> What's the allure of Emerald?
[18:49] <DaSkreech> Other than firey green?
[18:49] <red22> DaSkreech: someone said that kde doesn't behave well with compiz and that kwin should be used for effects instead... seems odd bc it works just fine until i try to restart again and it freezes up.
[18:49] <DaSkreech> More like compiz doesn't behave well with KDE
[18:50] <DaSkreech> But you are right if something compiz is saving inthe settings is causing a freeze when it restarts that should be looked into
[18:51] <DaSkreech> red22: I don't suppose you would have objections to logging in via terminal first and backing up/removing compiz settings before logging in by GUI to ensure that it is indeed compiz that's going haywire and not something crazy like KDE trying to load two window managers at once?
[18:51] <DaSkreech> Also what version of KDE are you using?
[18:53] <red22> DaSkreech: using ubuntu 8.10 (then i added on kde desktop) fully updated.
[18:53] <DaSkreech> red22: So 4.1.3 ?
[18:53] <DaSkreech> Or 4.1.2 ?
[18:53] <DaSkreech> or 4.2? :-)
[18:53] <DaSkreech> there are lots of updates for 8.10 :)
[18:54] <don_> when i insert any/doesnt matter which brand blank media into my pioneer 1.08 - running latest kde 4.2 bets - the media is not recognized - any ideas?
[18:54] <red22> DaSkreech: 4.1.3
[18:56] <red22> DaSkreech: I'm willing to try to set up some debugging or look through some logs or whatever to try to hunt down what the problem is, but i just really don't know much about kde (just over from gnome) or compiz internals.
[18:57] <DarkriftX> my mouse cursor dissapeared and I cannot get it back. Ive tried restarting X, changing cursor themes and nothign works. I can use the mouse, just cannot see the cursor. Anyone got any ideas?
[18:57] <red22> DaSkreech: no need to uninstall compiz (it seems) since the kde login works like a charm so long as i never startup compiz in kde.  i use it in gnome all the time with no problem either.
[18:58] <DaSkreech> red22: Can you check in system settings for defaultapplications and see if you can switch out the default to compiz there?
[18:58] <DaSkreech> I forget if that's a 4.2 feature or not
[18:59] <red22> DarkriftX: someone had that problem and fixed it here, try and see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-nv/+bug/123389
[19:01] <red22> DaSkreech: defaultapps?  i see a "file associations" app.. this one?
[19:01] <red22> DaSkreech: nvm ok i found it.
[19:02] <red22> DaSkreech: found it, but there seems to be nothing for desktop effects there.. only browsers, email, etc..
[19:02] <DaSkreech> Ok that's a 4.2 feature then
[19:05] <DarkriftX> gonna try that red22  (the xorg option), brb
[19:07] <DarkriftX> ok, worked, thx red22
[19:09] <DarkriftX> a bug like that teaches you 2 things, first some people are way too dependent upon mice, and second that if you try, you can get REALLY good at "guessing" where your cursor is without seeing it
[19:10] <DaSkreech> Focus follows mind
[19:10] <dstar> DaSkreech: *WANT*!
[19:10] <dstar> Anyone know if it's possible to configure the delay before a tooltip pops up?
[19:11] <DaSkreech>  1 nano second
[19:11] <DaSkreech> Apply
[19:13] <dstar> And is it possible to have the network widget show me what speed I'm connected at for my wireless adapter?
[19:15] <red22> DarkriftX: np, glad to help.  another thing it teaches is that yahoo is your friend :P
[19:16] <DarkriftX> i had no idea what to search, all my queries came back empty
[19:17] <DarkriftX> and the mouse thing was hard to click on resuts in a webpage
[19:17] <DaSkreech> red22: Right up until the buyout
[19:17] <red22> lemme try to find what i seaarched for hold on
[19:17] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: If you are using Konqueror press ctrl and it will highlight every link with a letter press the letter to go to the link
[19:17] <DarkriftX> i use ff :S
[19:18] <DarkriftX> konq doesnt work for me on any .php pages, tries to download them instead
[19:18] <red22> DaSkreech: after the buyout it will become evil search?
[19:20] <DaSkreech> red22: Mebbe if Microsoft has it's way. Also bye bye Zimbra
[19:21] <red22> DarkriftX: "kde invisible mouse pointer" was the search.  i find it helpful to see what ppl search for after i can't find it myself.
[19:22] <DarkriftX> heh
[19:22] <DarkriftX> i was using "dissapeared"
[19:22] <DarkriftX> i just remembered another thing, this is a new mouse (got it yesterday and never noticed if it ever worked or not)
[19:23] <DarkriftX> the hwcursor off option worked, so im wondering if it just needed a full reboot to get it working. The mouse is the exact same as the old one but slightly different color (and newer model prob)
[19:24] <red22> DaSkreech: i love yahoo myself, but it's alittle scary to hear employee accounts of the horrible mis-management that goes on there.  granted, i can't vouch for any of that being true or not.  or just disgruntled laid off ranting.
[19:25] <DaSkreech> Likely both
[19:25] <DaSkreech> some mismanagment blown out of proportion by disgruntalimentism
[19:26] <red22> yeah. what we really need is more search options. i don't care what you PR motto is, if you monopolize online search, much evil will take place for sure.
[19:27] <hyper_ch> as of now I just don't see any alternatives to google and TPB in the online search
[19:27] <bahaa2008_> hi
[19:28] <bahaa2008_> i just installed kubuntu 8.10
[19:28] <DaSkreech> !hi
[19:28] <hyper_ch> huhu bahaa2008_
[19:28] <DarkriftX> yeah, cuil was an epic fail
[19:28] <hyper_ch> bahaa2008_: that's good :)
[19:28] <hyper_ch> DarkriftX: the idea of cuil was nice
[19:28] <bahaa2008_> and have problems with my display
[19:28] <DarkriftX> not the implementation though
[19:28] <hyper_ch> DarkriftX: but it didn't even find my fraternity's homepage
[19:28] <hyper_ch> DarkriftX: then I stopped using it
[19:28] <DarkriftX> it rapes sites and gets nowhere
[19:28] <bahaa2008_> when i write on my keyboard
[19:28] <DarkriftX> i have sites with PR on them that I could not even get listed on cuil
[19:28] <bahaa2008_> the screen flashes
[19:28] <DarkriftX> and their bot is death to forums
[19:29] <DarkriftX> especially on shared hosting
[19:29] <DarkriftX> 20-80 concurrent connections at once
[19:29] <bahaa2008_> hyper_ch:
[19:29] <hyper_ch> bahaa2008_: what video card?
[19:29] <bahaa2008_> type ?
[19:29] <DaSkreech> bahaa2008_: try pressing alt+shift+F12
[19:29] <hyper_ch> DarkriftX: well, my server is unterused anway so I did not notice anything happening by cuil
[19:29] <DarkriftX> ok, time to go to work, later all
[19:29] <red22> DaSkreech: i'm gonna try turning off kwin from the system settings -> desktop app and then starting up compiz.  maybe it's a conflict of both trying to start up on login that freezes things.. i'll let you know.
[19:30] <red22> DarkriftX: later
[19:30] <DaSkreech> red22: That's the second thing i said :)
[19:31] <bahaa2008_> hyper_ch: my VGA is      Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:31] <hyper_ch> bahaa2008_: no clue how well/bad they work
[19:31] <bahaa2008_> i don't have this problem with ubuntu
[19:31] <bahaa2008_> in the same machine
[19:32] <red22> DaSkreech: i thought about it and i thought i typed it, but i left it out.  i did have the intention of giving you credit for it :P
[19:32] <bahaa2008_> hyper_ch: plz help me cuz i need it today
[19:32] <hyper_ch> bahaa2008_: I can't
[19:33] <red22> DaSkreech: are you frequently on here? it will take a few restarts tonight to check if everything works or not.  i'll get back on then to share test results.   thanks for the help again.
[19:34] <bahaa2008_> hyper_ch: why ?
[19:34] <hyper_ch> bahaa2008_: why can't you help yourself? ... same reason applies to me
[19:35] <bahaa2008_> hyper_ch: thanks for help
[19:43] <dstar> hmm... after updating to kde4.2, 'ignore' doesn't work on kopete notifications....
[19:43] <Armagguedes> speaking of graphics cards
[19:43] <Armagguedes> are nvidia's proprietary drivers working again or not for KDE 4.1 / 8.10?
[19:44] <hyper_ch> no clue
[19:44] <hyper_ch> I don't use 4.1
[19:45] <Mad_Rich> Armagguedes: I was asking that very question myself earlier
[19:46] <Mad_Rich> word was that things are looking good in 4.2
[19:46] <eMliveD> ey hola
[19:46] <Mad_Rich> I assume that included the latest nvidia driver but ppl were not sure
[19:47] <hyper_ch> 4.2 has not a different kernel... just a differen kde buil
[19:47] <Armagguedes> is 9.04 coming out with 4.2?
[19:47] <Mad_Rich> I think so
[19:47] <Armagguedes> good
[19:47] <hyper_ch> oh, you're talking about jaunty?
[19:47] <Armagguedes> yes
[19:47] <hyper_ch> I use 4.2 on 8.10
[19:48] <Armagguedes> because when i tried using 8.10 it was  mind-boggingly slow
[19:48] <Mad_Rich> do you have an nvidia card by any chance
[19:48] <Armagguedes> i thought 4.2 was still in beta
[19:48] <hyper_ch> how can anything be mind-bogglingly slow?
[19:48] <hyper_ch> Armagguedes: it is
[19:48] <hyper_ch> Mad_Rich: not anymore
[19:48] <Mad_Rich> it is still in beta2
[19:48] <hyper_ch> but works way better than 4.1
[19:49] <Mad_Rich> there was a problem with nvidia drivers and 4.1 with gtk apps
[19:49] <Armagguedes> can i use that --dist-upgrade thing in apt-get to update from 8.04 to 9.04?
[19:49] <Armagguedes> so i don't have to reinstall all the packages
[19:49] <Armagguedes> ?
[19:49] <Mad_Rich> which has prevented me using it up to now
[19:49] <Mad_Rich> 9,04 is still in alpha i think
[19:50] <DaSkreech> Yes
[19:50] <DaSkreech> 4.2.2 most likely
[19:51] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Yes
[19:51] <Armagguedes> yes. alpha 2
[19:51] <hyper_ch> Mad_Rich: why not trying 4.2 in 8.10?
[19:51] <Armagguedes> DaSkreech, then how do i later purge all of KDE3
[19:51] <Mad_Rich> I will wait till it goes beta i think
[19:51] <Armagguedes> i'll wait till its final
[19:51] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: apt-get remove kdelibs4c2a
[19:52] <Armagguedes> 4c2a?
[19:52] <Armagguedes> what's that?
[19:52] <Armagguedes> it's not versioning
[19:52] <Armagguedes> or not like i've seen before
[19:52] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: In some sense. It's the kdelibs base number
[19:52] <DaSkreech> KDE3 needs KDE libs4
[19:53] <DaSkreech> KDE4 needs KDE libs5
[19:53] <DaSkreech> KDE5 needs KDE libs6 etc
[19:53] <Armagguedes> ok i see
[19:53] <Armagguedes> is kde5 already in the works?
[19:53] <DaSkreech> if you remove kdelibs4c2a then all of KDE is obliged to go with it
[19:53] <hyper_ch> so, I need to fix now my little script
[19:53] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: I'm sure someone is dreaming of it
[19:54] <Armagguedes> ah
[19:54] <Mad_Rich> hyper_ch: sorry didn't see your post
[19:54] <Mad_Rich> I am still running hardy
[19:54] <Armagguedes> KDE5, now with an even more incomprehensible desktop!
[19:55] <hyper_ch> Mad_Rich: I don't think there are 4.2 repos for hardy
[19:55] <Mad_Rich> hyper_ch: you are correct
[19:55] <Mad_Rich> hyper_ch: that's why I'm waiting for 9.04
[19:56] <Mad_Rich> 8.1 and kde 4.1 didn't work for me due to graphics issues
[19:56] <Mad_Rich> nvidia driver  etc
[19:56] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: We have long since evolved away from desks and their tops
[19:57] <Armagguedes> evolved backwards as far as i'm concerned
[19:57] <Mad_Rich> :)
[19:58] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: It's not like you can't just use it like an old skool desktop :)
[19:59] <Armagguedes> i know, but it makes it 10x more complicated
[20:01] <DaSkreech> how so?
[20:01] <hyper_ch> just, just corrected a small bug in my tool:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[20:02] <Armagguedes> a folder to view your desktop on your desktop?
[20:02] <Armagguedes> seriously
[20:02] <hyper_ch> hmm, I think I should add jaunty repos to the generator ;)
[20:02] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Ha ha that's cause you have gotten stuck in that concept
[20:03] <Armagguedes> because it was a damn useful/simple one
[20:03] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Imagine if your desktop was glass and you could see into all the drawers under the desk That's more like what the new model is like
[20:03] <Armagguedes> no more links to special folders on your fs either
[20:03] <DaSkreech> You can look at anything you like intead of having to change context
[20:03] <DaSkreech> What links to special folders?
[20:03] <jussi01_> Armagguedes: in 4.2 you can revert tothe old style if you prefer
[20:04] <Armagguedes> _/share/ ~/Documents/ ~/photos/ etc
[20:04] <DaSkreech> jussi01_: He knows he's just sayingit stupid to have the option to do that
[20:04] <Armagguedes> really?
[20:04] <Armagguedes> sw33t
[20:04] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Why would you say those are gone?
[20:05] <Armagguedes> because i had links lying in an orderly fashion in my desktop
[20:05] <Armagguedes> now its either those folder views that take up way too much space
[20:06] <Armagguedes> or nothing at all
[20:06] <Mad_Rich> from what you guys are saying I think it is time to look at 4.2 on my laptop
[20:06] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: you can replace the desktop container
[20:06] <Armagguedes> i know
[20:07] <DaSkreech> so you can put a folderview there and point that at whatever
[20:07] <Armagguedes> i know, but my problem is that i currently have 12 folder links on my desktop
[20:07] <Armagguedes> and i use any of them frequently
[20:08] <Armagguedes> having 12 folderviews in KDE4 makes a mess of the "desktop"
[20:10] <Mad_Rich> !kde4
[20:11] <hyper_ch> actually that factoid needs to be changed to 4.2 beta 2
[20:12] <p_quarles>  hyper_ch that's pre-release, hence the "beta" part :)
[20:12] <hyper_ch> p_quarles: but it's beta 2 now and not beta 1
[20:12] <p_quarles> oh, sorry, missed the part about the beta in the factoid
[20:13] <hyper_ch> ^^
[20:13] <Dragnslcr> Armagguedes- the old style was that everything in ~/Desktop was shown on the desktop. If you want to have the same stuff in KDE4, add a folder view to your desktop that points to ~/Desktop
[20:14] <Armagguedes> i know already
[20:14] <Armagguedes> that's not my point
[20:14] <DaSkreech> In suse you can even choose between a non cashewed esktop and a cashewed one :)
[20:15] <Mad_Rich> Thanks for the discussion everyone - going to play with 4.2
[20:15] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: Just put.desktop links in ~Desktop
[20:16] <jussi01_> !kde4
[20:16] <jussi01_> hyper_ch: ^^
[20:16] <hyper_ch> jussi01_: thx :)
[20:16] <DaSkreech> new packages in 2 weeks :-)
[20:16] <Armagguedes> what does "cashew/cashewed" mean?
[20:16] <hyper_ch> wow... complaining really helps :)
[20:17] <Armagguedes> hyper_ch, it's all about the bitching
[20:17] <jussi01_> hyper_ch: you can suggest changes yourself, just do    !factoid is new stuff here
[20:17] <hyper_ch> how do you actually convert a cd into mp3 in kde 4.2?
[20:17] <jussi01_> thatll forward to us in -ops :)
[20:18] <hyper_ch> !factoid
[20:18] <hyper_ch> looks like a supybot
[20:18] <jussi01_> hyper_ch: have alook at the usage info
[20:18] <jussi01_> yeah it is
[20:19] <hyper_ch> I wrote once a little tool for the german kubuntu channel that will parse their wiki and update factoid db according to the wiki entries
[20:19] <Aji> tes
[20:19] <ubuntu> hi,, im trying to resize a xfs partition using gparted, but it says No Implementation: Support for opening xfs file systems is not implemented yet. .. can anyone teach me how to resize my xfs partition?
[20:19] <Dragnslcr> Bleh, I hate it when Plasma crashes
[20:19] <Dragnslcr> I keep losing the Quicklaunch
[20:20] <DaSkreech> hyper_ch: doesn't audiocd:/ work ?
[20:20] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: not really
[20:20] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: at first it didn't display the mp3 option
[20:20] <Armagguedes> is soundKonverter ported?
[20:20] <Armagguedes> that's what i sue
[20:21] <Armagguedes> use
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: In KDE 4 the default desktop has a toolbox button in the top corner we like to call it the cashew
[20:21] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: I had to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:21] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: and then it just made computer jitter noise
[20:21] <Armagguedes> i see, the little orange bean
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: are you using 4.2 ?
[20:21] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: making it bigger or smaller?
[20:21] <DaSkreech> hyper_ch: installed lame ?
[20:21] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: yes
[20:22] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: I have to retry later
[20:24] <Dragnslcr> DaSkreech- yeah
[20:25] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: smaller
[20:25] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: good luck
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: setup plasma the way you want then type kquitapp plasma; plasma in terminal or krunner
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: Should save everything
[20:25] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: why?
[20:25] <Dragnslcr> DaSkreech- nice, thanks
[20:26] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: because I have no clue
[20:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What are you using to resize?
[20:27] <CoJaBo-Eee> What all can I try to get a stubborn system to boot Kubuntu?
[20:27] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: How stubborn?
[20:28] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: It gets past the loading screen, then the monitor just starts to flash between off and black :/
[20:28] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: What happens if you press Alt+Ctrl+F1 ?
[20:30] <CoJaBo-Eee> It stops flashing, the keyboard lights (capslock, etc) stop responding, but continues to do nothing.
[20:30] <CoJaBo-Eee> IIRC, acpi=off and noapic got it to boot on an older version, but checking them seems to have no effect.
[20:31] <DaSkreech> Can ou boot the older kernel?
[20:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> How?
[20:32] <DaSkreech> You should be able to select old kernels before the loading screen
[20:32] <DaSkreech>  where it says Press esc to see the menu with a 5 second countdown
[20:33] <CoJaBo-Eee> I'm trying to boot to the live CD.
[20:33] <DaSkreech> Oh poo
[20:34] <DaSkreech> You haven't tried the alternate CD yet?
[20:36] <DaSkreech> legodude_: Dude :)
[20:36] <CoJaBo-Eee> No, hoping to avoid downloading something else and then burning it right now, would just like to test if it runs on this computer
[20:37] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there an option to boot without loading the GUI to see if that at least works?
[20:37] <DaSkreech> !iso
[20:37] <DaSkreech> Wait that wasn't it
[20:37] <DaSkreech> !install
[20:38] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: try that last link
[20:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> Theres only about 30mb of free space on the drive tho lol
[20:41] <DaSkreech> Ha ha whats on it now/
[20:42] <mrunagi__> im trying to upgrade and i get 'there was an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break pakages'......any ideas?
[20:45] <DaSkreech> mrunagi__: maybe there was a problem downloading it or committing it?
[20:45] <mrunagi__> obviously...........i guess i was more or less looking for ideas on fixing it
[20:45] <DaSkreech> mrunagi__: Did it say what package this was on?
[20:46] <mrunagi__> no
[20:46] <Armagguedes> is it just me or have a lot of packages previously present in Hardy's repositories gone missing after Intrepid came out?
[20:46] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get -f install
[20:47] <DaSkreech> Armagguedes: not you
[20:49] <Armagguedes> "not you" what kind of english is that? i don't get it
[20:51] <DaSkreech> Is it me or is it ...
[20:51] <DaSkreech>  It's not you
[20:51] <rogue780> can anyone recommend a good ide for python 3?
[20:51] <Tm_T> rogue780: bash and/or Kdevelop ?
[20:51] <Tm_T> Kate alone is quite fine for writing code
[20:51] <DaSkreech> kate
[20:52] <rogue780> thanks
[20:56] <Stormcr0w> Hello everyone. I've just upgraded Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and am wondering how easy it is (a) to install Kubuntu's KDE 4.1, (b) to switch between Kubuntu and Ubuntu (or KDE and Gnome)
[20:56] <Tm_T> Stormcr0w: easy
[20:56] <Tm_T> Stormcr0w: you switch between KDE and GNOME in login screen, select session type
[21:03] <Stormcr0w> Tm_T: thanks for the info, but what do I do to get to that point?
[21:04] <Stormcr0w> Tm_T: I assume I need to apt-get some packages from within Ubuntu first
[21:04] <Stormcr0w> Tm_T: ... before the sessions become available
[21:05] <Stormcr0w> Tm_T: also, will my settings still be there for me when I switch desktops? i.e. wireless connection settings, etc?
[21:05] <Tm_T> Stormcr0w: kubuntu-desktop ?
[21:05] <Tm_T> Stormcr0w: I have no idea about wireless
[21:06] <Stormcr0w> Tm_T: kubuntu-desktop is the name of the package?
[21:08] <p_quarles> Stormcr0w: that's the name of the full desktop metapackage; there are other metapackages as well: kde-core, kde, maybe some others
[21:09] <Stormcr0w> p_quarles: thanks, what is the difference between these metapackages?
[21:10] <p_quarles> Stormcr0w: just the number of packages they contain; kubuntu-desktop is somehwere in between kde-core and kde -- it's a nice working middle ground
[21:11] <p_quarles> kde-core installs only the basics, whereas kde installs everything you can imagine, multiplied by 4
[21:11] <Stormcr0w> p_quarles: by 4?
[21:13] <p_quarles> Stormcr0w: I exaggerate, maybe
[21:15] <Stormcr0w> p_quarles: ah, ok. So with kubuntu-desktop you get all you would get if you had installed Kubuntu straight from the Kubuntu livecd?
[21:15] <p_quarles> Stormcr0w: yep
[21:16] <Stormcr0w> p_quarles: brilliant! thanks!
[21:17] <Stormcr0w> p_quarles: I'll give it a try right away
[21:24] <dstar> I'm seeing something _weird_ all of the sudden... when I click on eg File in a menu, there's garbage in the dropdown box for a fraction of a second before the correct contents are drawn...
[21:25] <dstar> huh. Except it's not happening in Konversation, which also happens not to have picked up the theme I'm using.
[21:25] <dstar> anyone seen anything like that?
[21:26] <DaSkreech> Stormcr0w: try KDE 4.2
[21:26] <DaSkreech> dstar: Yeah it should be fixed shortly there is a post on KDE Blogs aboutit
[21:27] <dstar> DaSkreech: KDE blogs?
[21:28] <DaSkreech> http://planetkde.org
[21:29] <dstar> DaSkreech: that would explain it... my google turned up kdedevelopers.org
[21:29] <dstar> DaSkreech: You know if you can change the tooltip delay? Googling isn't helpful....
[21:30] <simon__> Bonne année à tous
[21:31] <DaSkreech> dstar: I don't know but I suspect it will be there soon if not there now. #kde might be able to say
[21:31] <DaSkreech> !fr
[21:33] <michael> hello
[21:33] <DaSkreech> !hi
[21:45] <dstar> DaSkreech: Thanks for the pointer, btw. Weird that it just started happening to me....
[21:58] <BluesKaj> howdy
[22:03] <Arauto> hi, how to install a trident cyberblade drive on kubuntu ??
[22:09] <GeminiDragon][> hello
[22:11] <BluesKaj> hi TwinDragons
[22:32] <dstar> I've got a bulit-in wireless adapter (wlan0) and a usb adapter (ra0). When I boot, networkmanager automatically connects both to my wireless network. How do I tell it not to?
[23:02] <Guest27133> can anyone help me............i upgraded now x wont start....libxdmcp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[23:02] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: Do you have a libxdmcp.so.6 ?
[23:03] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: Upgraded to what?
[23:03] <DaSkreech> Are you on the machine now?
[23:03] <Guest27133> i dunno what libxdmcp.so.6 is, upgraded to icy irony or whatever the version is now lol
[23:03] <cuznt> maybe guest fell asleep
[23:03] <Guest27133> !version
[23:04] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: Are you logged in on the computer now?
[23:05] <Guestzzzz> intrepid
[23:05] <Guest27133> yes
[23:05] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: type locate libxdmcp.so.6
[23:08] <Guest27133> comes back with just a prompt
[23:11] <Guest27133> and ideas DaSkreech
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !find libxdmcp.so.6
[23:12] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: try sudo apt-get  update & sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:14] <Guest27133> im getting a bunch of 'is not a symbolic link' after dist-upgrade
[23:16] <Guest27133> id search it myself but links2 isnt working because of the same reason
[23:18] <Guest27133> its apparently its genkdmconf thats the problem
[23:18] <Guest27133> !info genkdmconf
[23:18] <DaSkreech> What is genkdmconf ?
[23:18] <Guest27133> i dont know
[23:19] <DaSkreech> !info genkdmconf hardy
[23:19] <Guest27133> thats what comes up when i try to start kdm
[23:19] <DaSkreech> What is the error message
[23:20] <Guest27133> genkdmconf: error while loading shared libraries: libxdmcp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[23:21] <DaSkreech> Did you have third party repos ?
[23:21] <Guest27133> probably
[23:22] <DaSkreech> well something that's not from Ubuntu has messed up your install
[23:22] <Guest27133> how do i fix it
[23:23] <DaSkreech> The easy way would be to reinstall if you have a seperate /home parititon
[23:23] <Guest27133> =(
[23:24] <Guest27133> can u look up on google for me what that file is?
[23:24] <Guest27133> libxdmcp.so
[23:25] <HappySmileMan> /usr/bin/genkdmconf DOES exist so not necessarily 3rd party repo causing problems
[23:25] <Guest27133> genkdmconf is the program thats failing for kdm start but i get the same error for links32
[23:25] <Guest27133> links2
[23:26] <HappySmileMan> Guest27133: Do you have libxdmcp6 installed?
[23:27] <HappySmileMan> try apt-get install libxdmcp6
[23:36] <Guest27133> HappySmileMan: when i try that it says it doesnt know what that is
[23:37] <HappySmileMan> Hmm, not sure the problem
[23:37] <Guest27133> can u search google for me?
[23:39] <DaSkreech> !info  libxdmcp6
[23:39] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: Are you sure?
[23:40] <Guest27133> apt-get install libdmcp6 says newest version
[23:41] <jmoab> ola gostaria de instalar uma barra do tipo dock no kubuntu, é ppossivel???
[23:41] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: libxdmcp6
[23:41] <Guest27133> thats what i meant
[23:42] <DaSkreech> !pt
[23:42] <jmoab> vlw
[23:45] <JediatNight> !br
[23:45] <JediatNight> !it
[23:45] <JediatNight> !ru
[23:45] <JediatNight> !sk
[23:45] <JediatNight> !hr
[23:45] <cuznt> !fr
[23:45] <JediatNight> !se
[23:46] <cuznt> oui?
[23:46] <JediatNight> !de
[23:47] <Guest27133> so no ideas?
[23:47] <dstar_> ...okay, wth? All of the sudden, resizing a window is _painfully_ slow -- as in, 4 seconds to resize a konsole window two characters wider.
[23:48] <HappySmileMan> Guest27133: Sorry no, if it happened after a dist-upgrade it's probably a fairly big problem
[23:48] <HappySmileMan> If you have a USB drive or anything I'd recommend backing up your /home and reinstalling
[23:48] <Guest27133> sigh i think linux as much as a pain as windows
[23:48] <HappySmileMan> It can be, I never do a dist-upgrade for this reason
[23:49] <cuznt> you can undo an upgrade]
[23:49] <Guest27133> so what do u do
[23:49] <cuznt> wait a sec ok
[23:49] <levidos> i have a very annoying problem... when using bittorrent for an hour my wireless network disconects and i cant reconnect until i reboot my computer. init.d/networking restart is not working, nor ifconfig wlan0 up then down...
[23:50] <cuznt> sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[23:50] <Guest27133> so u dont upgrade?
[23:50] <cuznt> i thought you had a prob after upgrading
[23:50] <cuznt> [18:48] <HappySmileMan> Guest27133: Sorry no, if it happened after a dist-upgrade it's probably a fairly big problem
[23:51] <Guest27133> i did
[23:51] <cuznt> ok SO to see if the upgrade is the prob
[23:51] <cuznt> do
[23:51] <HappySmileMan> Guest27133: I download the CD and then backup my files and install from scratch every 6 months
[23:51] <cuznt> sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[23:51] <cuznt> follow the intructions
[23:51] <cuznt> really
[23:52] <HappySmileMan> Of course that's a lot easier when you already store all your important files on a separate hard drive
[23:52] <cuznt> jebus and baby jebus
[23:52] <DaSkreech> Guest27133: Ok ready to start fixing?
[23:53] <cuznt> i think i kick him in his groin by accident
[23:53] <cuznt> it was an accident really....
[23:53] <HappySmileMan> cuznt: What?
[23:53] <Guest27133> i just did dselectt
[23:53] <Guest27133> brb
[23:54] <cuznt> not worth repeating esscuzeme
[23:55] <ceem> is there a german ubuntu supporter channel i can join?
[23:55] <ceem> ir can i get here help for problems?
[23:55] <cuznt> !de
[23:55] <HappySmileMan> ceem: ubuntu-de
[23:55] <ceem> thx
[23:58] <mrunagi> well that didnt work...........dselect that is, still in shell
[23:58] <dstar_> ...okay, wth? All of the sudden, resizing a window is _painfully_ slow -- as in, 4 seconds to resize a konsole window two characters wider.
[23:59] <dstar_> Anyone ever seen this?


[16:33] <nick125> Awesome weather, eh?
[17:07] <mneptok> good stuff
[17:07] <mneptok> smoking on the patio reminds me of Montreal for the first time. tomorrow will be even more reminiscent.
[17:07] <mneptok> -10 Wednesday night, they say
[17:41] <nick125> They didn't cancel classes here until noon..
[19:28] <woowoo> i now work at unm.  they didn't cancel until i got to work at 10am.
[20:00] <nick125> Considering that they've only closed school here a handful of times in the last decade...yeah.
[20:14] <woowoo> most places that are used to getting snow usually don't cancel
[20:14] <nick125> Even after every other school in the area cancelled, they still didn't..
[20:14] <woowoo> living in NE united states and canada I very rarely had a snow day
[20:44] <smooge> my coworkers in boston giggle that we closed at anything less than 1 foot