[12:23] <m4k> Who made the ubuntu online tour
[12:25] <m4k> Helooo
[12:26] <peterm-ubuntu> m4k at http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/ ?
[12:29] <m4k> Yes
[12:29] <peterm-ubuntu> the canonical web team did… Ant Dillon
[12:29] <peterm-ubuntu> why>?
[12:31] <m4k> I want create like that one
[12:33] <peterm-ubuntu> I think this is the code https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-online-tour
[12:33] <peterm-ubuntu> ant is on holiday for 3 weeks
[12:34] <peterm-ubuntu> m4k ^
[12:34] <m4k> Ok


[06:40] <rww> huzzah, a trainwreck!
[06:41] <Tm_T> ?
[06:41] <rww> #ubuntu
[06:42] <Tm_T> bah, place redirects or flat ban for that snake
[06:43] <rww> nah, hopefully they got the picture and won't be back for non-support reasons
[06:43] <Tm_T> did you talk to celthunder how is actions were not ok?
[06:44] <rww> more concerned about the channel members that think it's appropriate to link to 2g1c and then laugh about it while simultaneously complaining about offtopicness, personally
[06:44] <Tm_T> that, indeed
[06:45] <elky> Is it wrong that I read that as "flat out burn that places"
[06:45] <elky> s/places/place/
[06:45] <Tm_T> no, that's only good
[06:46] <rww> celthunder just apologized in PM, fwiw
[08:46] <Corey> I'd fix the grammar around the !anyone factoid.
[08:46] <Tm_T> please do
[08:53] <Corey> My syntax for modifying factoids is off.
[08:53] <Tm_T> give a replacement text and I'll throw it in
[08:53] <Tm_T> !anyone
[08:55] <ldunn> Corey: are you a new op? We're only allowed to edit factoids in this channel iirc. (New ops, that is).
[08:56] <Corey> ldunn: Quite.
[08:56] <Corey> A high percentage of the of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next  question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[08:56] <Corey> Er, too many "of the"
[08:57] <Tm_T> !no, anyone is <reply>A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[08:58] <Tm_T> Corey: good now? ^
[08:58] <Corey> Tm_T: Better for now. :-)
[09:00] <Tm_T> jolly good
[15:44] <ikonia> ?
[19:28] <GalahadForce> Do any of you guys run nvidia cards?
[19:28] <GalahadForce> hey ubottu
[19:28] <oCean> GalahadForce: hi there, are you aware that this is not the support channel?
[19:28] <GalahadForce> i finally got it to boot in fail safe mode
[19:29] <GalahadForce> oh im sorry
[19:30] <Pici> k
[20:18] <mneptok> I HAVE AN NVIDIA CARD!
[20:18]  * mneptok bounces and awaits his prize
[20:26]  * Tm_T gives mneptok a cookie and pats
[20:26] <LjL> mneptok: no can mine :(
[20:30] <gord> people talking to the bot as if its a person never gets old
[20:31] <gord> its cute/adorable
[20:31] <rww> LjL: you can, it's just not efficient!
[20:31] <rww> gord: people talking to me as if i'm a bot is fun ^.^
[20:46] <LjL> rww: tell mneptok about mining on nvidia
[20:47] <rww> mneptok: nvidia likes points that float better than points that sink, or maybe the other way around, and bitcoin likes the one it doesn't like, so nvidia cards are crap and you should buy 10 million FPGAs and destroy the bitcoin economy instead.
[21:17] <Tm_T> eh
[21:17] <Tm_T> !bash
[21:17] <Tm_T> !cli
[21:53] <Corey> Response was a pile of racial epithets.  Lovely.
[21:54] <IdleOne> that is his right to free speech
[21:59] <Corey> Something in the water today?
[21:59] <IdleOne> school is done in two days right?
[21:59] <IdleOne> it's going to be like this for the next 2.5 months :/
[21:59] <Pici> Ugh
[22:00] <Pici> sorry guys, I should have paid more attention to that
[22:00] <Corey> Pici: Nah, we caught it.
[22:00] <IdleOne> looks like a coordinated attack of the trolls
[22:00] <Pici> Just trying to get some real work done here and can't pay full attention to IRC
[22:00] <Corey> IdleOne: I'd not go that far.
[22:01] <IdleOne> ok, so it's just a bunch of kids.
[22:41] <Corey> I'm curious as to folks' thoughts on whether or not some distributions are reasonable to expect a certain level of technical competence from their respective userbases.
[22:41] <Corey> Obviously Ubuntu targets everyone from the grandmothers on up the chain, but not every distro does this.
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Why wouldn' t they be?
[22:50] <charlie-tca> The distro should be entitled to decide who/what group their own user base will be.
[22:57] <Guest40866> hi
[22:57] <blz> hello:  could we please have Guest40866 kicked from #ubuntu?
[22:57] <blz> he's been lamely trolling for the better part of 30 minutes
[22:58] <IdleOne> blz: LjL is dealing with it
[22:58] <Guest40866> u said fuck u to me
[22:58] <blz> IdleOne:  ok thank you
[22:58] <IdleOne> Guest40866: Please mind your language
[22:58] <Guest40866> so blz u should get kicked also?
[22:58] <LjL> Guest40866: i don't see that sentence in the channel
[22:58] <blz> Case in point...
[22:58] <Guest40866> IdleOne, sorry
[22:58] <Guest40866> LjL,  someoen did
[22:58] <Guest40866> i think it was vatts
[22:58] <LjL> Guest40866: i see. well, it wasn't blz. that probably escaped our attention.
[22:59] <blz> LjL:  i recall it.  Someone became exasperated with his trolling when he said "I thought computers were designed to play games"
[22:59] <blz> or something of the sort
[22:59] <blz> anyway, i'll leave you to it
[22:59] <blz> thank you
[22:59] <LjL> Guest40866, do you think you can stick to the topic of Ubuntu technical support in #ubuntu?
[22:59] <Guest40866> Ljl im new to this
[23:00] <Guest40866> LjL i didint even know hot to install flash player
[23:00] <Guest40866> LjL sorry if i use the channels wrong??
[23:00] <LjL> Guest40866: well that's a perfectly acceptable question to ask in #ubuntu. on the other hand, your thoughts on what computers were designed for aren't.
[23:00] <maco> Guest40866: from scrollback it looks like it was actually a very rude "shut up" not exactly the one you said (but still not ok)
[23:01] <Guest40866> i apologize
[23:01] <Guest40866> can you guys teach me hoe to use linux?
[23:01] <LjL> chrisf, Metroshica: hi
[23:01] <Guest40866> well im on ubuntu 11.04 i believe
[23:01] <maco> if you're here as spectators, don't bother
[23:01] <LjL> Guest40866: that's a bit of a big question.
[23:01] <LjL> LordVoldemort: hi
[23:01] <LjL> can we help you?
[23:01] <IdleOne> Guest40866: Please use #ubuntu  for support
[23:02] <Guest40866> IdleOne, are you on #ubuntu?
[23:02] <IdleOne> blz Metroshica chrisf if you don't have any reason for being in here please do not idle in this channel.
[23:02] <blz> aah sorry
[23:02] <blz> forgot to sign out
[23:03] <Guest40866> IdleOne, we cant be in here?
[23:03] <LjL> only for the time needed to resolve op-related issues
[23:03] <IdleOne> Guest40866: no.
[23:03] <Guest40866> LjL ill leave sorry i didint know. can you help me out in the other channel?
[23:04] <LjL> Guest40866: best is if you try asking specific questions, "how to use linux" is just too huge a topic.
[23:07] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops rubenjr Probably trolling
[23:07] <IdleOne> !away > grayside|afk
[23:45] <Corey> Okay, I've helped enough in #ubuntu that it's *probably* time I actually got a Ubuntu system running...
[23:47] <Corey> There we go.
[23:48] <IdleOne> took 2 minutes?
[23:49] <LjL> installers are fast these days
[23:49] <Corey> It is when you've got a virtualization system on hardware that rocks. :-)
[23:50] <IdleOne> impressive
[23:50] <Corey> vzctl create 112 --ostemplate ubuntu-10.04-minimal_10.04_amd64
[23:50] <IdleOne> Will you adopt me?
[23:51] <Corey> Should probably spin up an 11.04 as well.
[23:52] <Corey> (3.87 MB/s) - “ubuntu-11.04-x86.tar.gz” saved
[23:52] <Corey> Whee. :-)
[23:52] <Corey> Doh, wanted 64 bit.
[23:54] <Corey> Yeah, ran the vzcreate statement in "time"
[23:54] <Corey> real0m4.881s
[23:55] <IdleOne> now you're just showing off
[23:58] <Corey> A bit. ;-)


[00:09] <frogonwheels> omg, I can't believe that _finally_ linux dual-screen behaves nicer than windows again.
[01:00] <glaucous> How do I turn off startup and shutdown sounds?
[01:04] <avihay> glaucous: system settings->notifications   event source: kde system notifications
[01:05] <glaucous> avihay: Thanks
[01:14] <glaucous> I'm having problems getting Adobe Flash with Firefox to work with sound. I'm using JACK, although I don't know if Firefox is actually using it at all. Flash 10.1 and firefox 3.6
[01:30] <krlos> hi
[01:42] <sobczyk> hi, is there a kde4 SIP phone (or qt4 based)
[01:55] <andito> I have no sound on my sony vaio, I need help tracking down the problem
[02:01] <frogonwheels> sobczyk: twinkle is, I believe.  It's pretty good.
[02:01] <progre55> hi people!
[02:01] <progre55> I want to add a script in /etc/init.d/ to startup, but only after networking is up. so how do I update-rc.d it?
[02:01] <frogonwheels> andito: There are a bunch of sound trouble-shooters on the web - worth finding one and going through it - and then if you've still got problems, come back and reference what you've tried
[02:02] <frogonwheels> andito: Presumably you've run alsamixer and made sure all the levels are correct (note there could be multiple soundcards)
[02:02] <andito> that's the reason why I am here, because I have been through those already
[02:02] <frogonwheels> andito: Ok. When you ask a question, you need to say .. I've tried this, that, &c, and ask a question.
[02:03] <andito> ok, can you help me track the problem?
[02:03] <frogonwheels> andito: This helps people with the correct experience to answer your qq :) (ie.. don't ask to ask, just ask)
[02:04] <frogonwheels> andito: I don't have the time at the moment - but leave your question at the beep, and I, or somebody else, may be able to answer it :)
[02:04] <andito> ok, then if you're not going to helo then don't answer, isn't that something that IRC says?
[02:04] <andito> thanks
[02:05] <frogonwheels> was I being rude? I thought I was being fair.
[02:29] <progre55> anyone? I'm starting a deamon using "start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $SCRIPT_PID --startas $DAEMON -- $DAEMON_OPTS", but it doesnt record the pid in the specified file, so the "stop" option doesnt work. Any suggestions, please?
[02:31] <well_laid_lawn> progre55: what does $SCRIPT_PID do to find the pid?
[02:32] <progre55> well_laid_lawn: it's just a path to a file
[02:32] <progre55> well_laid_lawn: SCRIPT_PID="/var/run/myscript.pid"
[02:34] <well_laid_lawn> progre55: you said it didn't record the pid in the file - how are you getting the pid into that file?
[02:35] <yao_ziyuan> what is the latest kubuntu's default gtk+ theme?
[02:37] <progre55> well_laid_lawn: I dont know.. doesnt it automatically write the pid into the file specified? I mean, the start-stop-daemon function from /lib/lsb/init-functions
[02:39] <well_laid_lawn> progre55: the daemons are in /var/run/daemons/ here
[02:40] <progre55> ah, got disconnected
[02:40] <progre55> did I miss anything? )
[02:42] <well_laid_lawn> progre55: is the daemon listed in /var/run/daemons/ ?
[02:45] <progre55> well_laid_lawn: there is no such dir
[02:46] <well_laid_lawn> progre55: I am on archlinux atm :]
[02:47] <progre55> well_laid_lawn: ubuntu server =)
[03:34] <Erthe> Does anyone know of a way to reset the system sound configuration to installed defaults?
[04:08] <Viperisthebest> Is this the page that tells me how to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?
[04:08] <Viperisthebest> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[04:10] <Viperisthebest> anyone here
[04:11] <Viperisthebest> Spiros
[04:12] <moetunes> Viperisthebest: yep that's the right page for that
[04:13] <Viperisthebest> i have another question
[04:14] <Viperisthebest> How do i remove/uninstall my NVIDIA driver before i upgrade
[04:16] <moetunes> !nvidia | Viperisthebest
[04:17] <Viperisthebest> yes moetunes
[04:23] <PeterDrop> hello, iam looking  some p2p programa, any suggest?
[04:32] <Viperisthebest> so the NVIDIA manual tells how to uninstall the drivers ?
[04:39] <Viperisthebest> What do you do if it wont show the login screen after uninstalling your NVIDIA driver?
[04:41] <Viperisthebest> Anyone know?
[04:42] <well_laid_lawn> Viperisthebest: is there a xorg.conf file still there?
[04:42] <Crell> I haven't used nVidia in years.
[04:42] <well_laid_lawn> me neither
[04:42] <Viperisthebest> yes it still uses xorg.conf
[04:43] <Viperisthebest> i havent uninstalled em yet
[04:44] <Viperisthebest> im just afraid that when i uninstall them and restart the x server wont start
[04:45] <Viperisthebest> Linux should be able to use the x server without any NVIDIA driver right?
[04:46] <Viperisthebest> Doesn't it come with no graphics driver and just a default?
[04:48] <Viperisthebest> Anyone know the answer to my questions?
[04:49] <Viperisthebest> !uninstalling nvidia | Viperisthebest
[04:50] <Viperisthebest> cmon bot answer
[04:51] <Viperisthebest> !uninstalling nvidia
[04:51] <Viperisthebest> !uninstalling nvidia drivers
[04:51] <Viperisthebest> !nvidia drivers
[04:52] <Viperisthebest> !nvidia
[04:52] <Viperisthebest> !xserver
[04:52] <Viperisthebest> !fixing xserver
[04:52] <Viperisthebest> ! x server
[04:53] <Viperisthebest> !x-server
[04:53] <Viperisthebest> !nvidia xserver
[04:53] <Viperisthebest> !nvidia x-server
[04:54] <Viperisthebest> !xorg.conf
[04:54] <wastrel> change the Driver option in "Device" section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <wastrel> vesa is the generic driver
[04:55] <Viperisthebest> so if i do that it will start up after uninstalling nvidia driver
[04:55] <Viperisthebest> !nvidia xorg.conf
[04:55] <wastrel> that will tell X to start with the vesa driver
[04:55] <wastrel> whether or not nvidia is installed it will use vesa
[04:56] <Viperisthebest> so vesa is the default driver that comes with kubuntu when u 1st download and install it
[04:56] <wastrel> i dunno. there's magic detection stuff
[04:57] <wastrel> the vesa driver is the generic fallback driver it should work for any card but doesn't perform well necessarily.
[04:57] <Viperisthebest> if i dont tell it to use that driver will my x server start back up
[04:58] <wastrel> i dunno nowadays it may be smart enough to figure something out
[05:02] <Viperisthebest> if i remove the nvidia driver and the x server doesnt start up on Linux does it still load grub
[05:03] <wastrel> yes linux will still boot, the x server is a userland program, not kernel
[05:05] <Viperisthebest> did u remove your driver before upgrading
[05:11] <Viperisthebest> wastrel did u?
[05:12] <wastrel> no
[05:14] <Viperisthebest> if u dont change the driver to vesa before u uninstall it
[05:14] <Viperisthebest> will it start back up and let u use linux after uninstall
[05:17] <wastrel> if you uninstall your nvidia driver X won't start
[05:18] <Viperisthebest> can u even upgrade if x doesnt start
[05:19] <wastrel> upgrade happens before reboot
[05:19] <wastrel> why are you asking all these questions
[05:20] <Viperisthebest> so vesa is the default driver that originally comes with new copies of linux
[05:20] <wastrel> no vesa is the generic driver
[05:20] <wastrel> i don't know what the default driver is
[05:20] <wastrel> if any
[05:22] <Viperisthebest> is it possible to uninstall the nvidia driver and then start upgrading
[05:22] <wastrel> why?
[05:23] <Viperisthebest> my brother said i should uininstall the nvidia driver and then start upgrading
[05:23] <wastrel> there's no reason to do that but if you want to here is what to do.
[05:24] <wastrel> 1. change to the vesa driver
[05:24] <wastrel> 2. reboot
[05:24] <wastrel> 3. uninstall nvidia driver
[05:24] <wastrel> 4. upgrade
[05:25] <Viperisthebest> but what if i wanted to uninstall the nvidia driver and rebbot and then upgrade
[05:25] <wastrel> see above. 1. change to vesa.  2. reboot. 3. uninstall nvidia 4. upgrade
[05:26] <Viperisthebest> How would i fix x then and get it to use the default driver so it would work?
[05:27] <wastrel> sudo cp -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia
[05:27] <Viperisthebest> what does that do
[05:28] <wastrel> sudo sed -i s/nvidia/vesa/ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:28] <wastrel> the first makes a backup copy (cp = copy) of your xorg.conf
[05:28] <wastrel> the second changes "nvidia" to "vesa" in your existing xorg.conf
[05:28] <wastrel> then reboot and you should be running vesa
[05:28] <Viperisthebest> cant you just go into the file and change it to vesa
[05:28] <wastrel> yes
[05:29] <Viperisthebest> Does anyone know what the Kubuntu default video/x/graphics driver is called?
[05:30] <wastrel> there's no one default, it depends on the card
[05:30] <Viperisthebest> what card
[05:30] <wastrel> the video card you use
[05:30] <Viperisthebest> i use 2 nvidia geforce 8800GS
[05:31] <Viperisthebest> so the default for me would be?
[05:32] <wastrel> maybe some open source 2d nvidia driver i dunno
[05:32] <wastrel> vesa will work for anything as i said
[05:33] <wastrel> i just don't want to comment on defaults since that is something i know nothing about
[05:34] <Viperisthebest> if i didnt make it use the vesa driver before uninstalling the other
[05:34] <Viperisthebest> since my x server wouldnt work
[05:35] <wastrel> your linux system would boot to the command line
[05:35] <Viperisthebest> would reseting my x config to its default installed state make it work
[05:35] <Viperisthebest> instead of using the vesa
[05:36] <Viperisthebest> would that make it use the default
[05:38] <wastrel> i wouldn't know how to do that
[05:39] <wastrel> vesa works fine to set your system up
[05:39] <wastrel> then when you reinstall the nvidia driver it'll fix your xorg.conf to use that
[05:39] <wastrel> really there's nothing to worry about
[05:40] <Viperisthebest> k thankf for the info
[05:40] <Viperisthebest> thanks
[05:41] <wastrel> what you don't want vesa for is gaming or graphics intensive applications
[05:41] <wastrel> even maybe flash video or scrolling long documents
[05:41] <wastrel> depending on your video card
[05:42] <wastrel> but it will function fine
[05:42] <Guest15579> is there anyway to solve this? Whenever i use any application using webkit, Arora, Konqueror(with the webkit, i think KPart), and rekonq, it crashes when loading some sites. Whenever i load acid3 test, it crashes. and other heavy sites, i guess with heavy javascript, they all crash
[05:43] <ThiagoMedeiros> The are anyone user that's realized the UCP certification?
[05:44] <Viperisthebest> Guest15579
[05:45] <Guest15579> what?
[05:45] <Viperisthebest> did u see my pm
[05:45] <Guest15579> oh i didnt notice it
[05:46] <Viperisthebest> read the question
[05:46] <Guest15579> anybody know?
[06:28] <giova> Unable to get connection to AP. From new Linksys Cisco AE1000 Ralink usb on KUbuntu 10.4, ushing wicd and also dhclient ra0 at commad line.  wicd can see the various APs available. Note known KUbuntu 10.4 problems with the GNOME NetworkManager won't be solved in 10.4.  I read someplace maybe have to remove KNetworkManager to get wicd to work properly.  Recommendations?
[06:29] <giova> Note: Driver source downloaded from ralink, & after adding the usb product id, compiled on the system, make make install.  Thoughts about why it might be failing to connect to the AP?  could this be new faulty IPV6 code in KUbuntu, talllking to IPV4 AP, causing a timeout failure?
[06:30] <wastrel> sudo update-rc.d -f network-manager remove # will stop network manager from starting on boot
[06:30] <wastrel> sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[06:31] <wastrel> then sudo /etc/init.d/wicd start
[06:31] <wastrel> sudo update-rc.d wicd defaults # adds wicd to startup
[06:32] <wastrel> other than that dunno :]
[06:32] <giova> wastrel: yes, but is that know a fix, or merely a suggestion?
[06:32] <wastrel> well if network manager daemon is running it can't be a good thing
[06:32] <wastrel> otherwise, i dunno
[06:33] <giova> um, why?
[06:33] <giova> why can't be a good thing?
[06:33] <wastrel> iono, breaky wifi.  my wifi didn't work with nm so i switched to wicd
[06:33] <wastrel> while nm was running , wifi wouldn't connect
[06:33] <wastrel> i'm not super conversant with wifi stuff but that's what worked for me
[06:34] <giova> wastrel: thanks :)
[06:34] <giova> Anyone here know if network manger in KU will be fixed & working properly in KU 10.10?
[06:36] <DarthFrog> giova: I think the only way to answer that question is to follow the development of network manager and see if your bug is being worked upon.
[06:38] <giova> DarthFrog: thx, but , how about an irc channel for the KUbuntu devs? that's a real time way to find out, yes?
[06:39] <DarthFrog>  Try #kubuntu-devel
[06:40] <giova> DarthFrog: thx :)
[08:18] <nisha_newbie> i want 2 convert flv to divx avi...can anyone help me on that?
[08:43] <giova> " Desktop Compositing" - how turn it on after it auto shut itself off?
[08:45] <James147_> giova: alt+crtl+f12 should toggle it  otherwise system settings > desktop > desktop effects (if I remember right)
[09:00] <giova>  James147_ thx
[09:21] <pupnik> need a plasma widget to show output of cat  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature   (temp widget in kubuntu only displays FAHRENHEIT)
[09:21] <pupnik> :/
[09:22] <pupnik> how about a plasma widget that can run an arbitrary shell command (like xfce has)
[09:23] <cjae> why sometimes when I click my esata external hdd does dolphin ask for my password?
[09:23] <James147> pupnik: theres a widget called "File watcher" that will watch a file for changes
[09:24] <James147> cjae: ntfs format?
[09:24] <cjae> fat32
[09:24] <cjae> no security on that fs right?
[09:26] <James147> cjae: not really that... you need to be root to mount drives where kubuntu wants to, but normally it dose somehting so a normal user can (I think kdm might handel it)... although it seems to have a problem with ntfs drives  (not sure about vfat)  you can add an entry to /etc/fstab  to let users mount the drive
[09:26] <cjae> W95 FAT32
[09:27] <cjae> but it doesnt ask sometimes and let me do things to the drive
[09:27] <cjae> and it*
[09:28] <pupnik> ty James147 interesting
[09:28] <James147> cjae: if you add a line for the drive to /etc/fstab with "users" under the options it should let anymore mount it with out a password
[10:02] <ita_> hi all, I cant use my hawaui e1550 to connect to Internet anymore after I tried betavine (betavine.com). Now I uninstalled it but  still I can't connect to internet. I am using before nm-applet. How can I restore my old settings?
[10:06] <James147> ita_: settings are stored in hidden folders in your home direcory (kde ones are in ~/.kde) I dont know exactly where the nm-applet ones are stored
[10:08] <ita_> James147: I know that but the system doesn't detect 1550 modem anymore.
[10:09] <James147> ita_: try it with a new user... that should tell you if its a config problem or a system problem
[10:10] <ita_> James147: ok I will do it now.
[10:13] <giova> What is the fix for this:  GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 35DA01C261E46227
[12:14] <ubuntu> hey guys, i need help backing up files from a windows HDD on Kubuntu LiveCD.
[12:16] <dCtz> hey guys, i need help backing up files from a windows HDD on Kubuntu LiveCD.
[12:17] <James147> dCtz: : Anything specific? otherwise you just mount the hdd, the media you want to backup onto and copy the files....
[12:17] <dCtz> i just need to know how I can access the HDD
[12:17] <dCtz> and backup my stuff for aremovable usb device
[12:18] <James147> dCtz: dolphin should beable to mount the hdd, it should be listed under the "places" dock
[12:18] <James147> dCtz: you can also mount it via the "device norifier" widget
[12:18] <dCtz> sorry for the dumbness
[12:19] <dCtz> i love your boobies,boobies
[13:11] <LuGaLbAnGa> hi everyone
[13:13] <LuGaLbAnGa> I've just installed kubuntu 10.04 and everything is right except for the fact that my wireless lan doesn't work (knetwork-manager applet doesn't show available wireless connections even if I activate the "activate wireless connections" checkbox). How can I address this?
[13:17] <James147> LuGaLbAnGa: try nm-applet (the gnome frontend, install: network-manager-gnome)
[13:19] <LuGaLbAnGa> James147, thanks, I've already did it. Guess there's been some trouble getting the driver to work (atheros chip)
[13:20] <James147> LuGaLbAnGa: yeah, they are known to be... anoying :S
[13:21] <LuGaLbAnGa> yeah, but I've had no issues with latter versions of (k)ubuntu... any hints on where to start?
[13:25] <James147> LuGaLbAnGa: they don't normally do that :S you could try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469799    or   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[13:26] <LuGaLbAnGa> thanks James147, I'll read a little about it to try to tackle the problem
[13:27] <asic> hi
[13:27] <Chicano> hi asic
[13:27] <asic> anyone havin problems with connecting to wpa2-enterprise-wifis on kubuntu 10.04?
[13:28] <asic> (e.g. eduroam, for those who might know it...)
[13:28] <Chicano> I use eduroam at my university, but haven't had any problems
[13:28] <Chicano> are you having trouble connecting?
[13:29] <asic> well i enter the parameters given by the admin team
[13:29] <asic> and it says sth like configurating interface
[13:30] <asic> and then asks the passphrase, which i recently set and which is known to be correct
[13:31] <Chicano> then what happens?
[13:31] <asic> nothing...
[13:32] <asic> no error, no msg, nothing
[13:32] <James147> asic: try nm-applet (the gnome frontend, install: network-manager-gnome) :)
[13:32] <Chicano> do you know what wifi card and driver you're using?
[13:33] <Chicano> james147: also worth a try
[13:33] <asic> thx, ill give it a try
[13:33] <asic> its some intel wifi module
[13:34] <asic> iwlagn driver
[13:35] <asic> James147: ill give it a try as soon as ill be able to est a connection
[13:35] <asic> probably i need to do that at home :/
[13:35] <asic> Chicano, James147 thx
[13:37] <Chicano> asic: if it's an intel module then it's probably nm doing some weird stuff, the driver usually works ok in my experience
[13:38] <asic> mkay. maybe id connect by cmd-line
[13:40] <Chicano> if it isn't the driver that should work
[13:41] <asic> Chicano: okay, ill try that other applet and connecting via shell
[13:41] <asic> thx for your help
[13:44] <Chicano> you're welcome
[13:45] <slow-motion> hi
[14:04] <Erthe> Good morning.
[14:04] <Erthe> Does anyone know how I can reinitialize the audio configuration of my desktop?  I'm running 10.04
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Erthe,  alsamixer in the terminal,
[14:09] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[14:09] <BluesKaj> then turn those controls up to the max.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:10] <Erthe> I'll give that a shot, brb.
[14:17] <ahti> omq
[14:17] <ahti> does anyone knows how i could fing MTG channel?
[14:21] <troopperi> ahti: what is MTG?
[14:22] <Pici> ahti: Likely not on freenode.
[14:23] <ahti> MAgic the gathering
[14:31] <troopperi> ahti: you need add EFnet to your list and connect it, there you can found channel #MTG
[14:34] <ahti> tnx
[15:36] <unclemike> runing ubuntu 10.04...going to install kubuntu-desktop....can i remove all sines of ubuntu  ??
[15:37] <nobarking> hello
[15:37] <nobarking> does anyone know how to disable transparency on the panel when Desktop Effects is enabled?
[15:39] <James147> !purekde | nobarking
[15:39] <James147> !purekde | unclemike
[15:39] <James147> ^^ sorry
[15:39] <nobarking> np :)
[15:40] <James147> nobarking: I think the transparency is linked in with the theme, either change that or disable transpaency altogether (system settings > desktop > desktop effects)
[15:41] <nobarking> James147: thanks, I will look into the themes then.
[15:41] <unclemike> James147, thanks
[15:54] <omkar_> Hey Guys I have installed apache2 on kubuntu 10.04 n i just need to configure it such a way that it allows me to run a cgi-script
[15:57] <omkar_> anyone who can help me abit
[15:58] <omkar_> I followed one webpage which mentioned abt configuring apache2 on ubuntu but now the script opens an dialog box
[15:58] <omkar_> which shows an option to save or open the perl script
[15:59] <Pici> omkar_: Can you pastebin the contents of your site configuration?
[16:02] <omkar_> one sec
[16:04] <omkar_> u mean the default file from /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[16:07] <omkar_> u there pici
[16:07] <Pici> omkar_: I am, did you modify that file to set a cgi-bin directory?
[16:08] <omkar_> no i didn't
[16:09] <omkar_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-apache2-webserver-with-phpcgi-and-perl-support-in-ubuntu-server.html
[16:09] <Pici> omkar_: Did you modify any of the apache2 configuration yet?
[16:09] <omkar_> I followed theis link
[16:10] <omkar_> only mentioned ServerName and my ip add in apache2.conf
[16:10] <omkar_> didn't modify anything else in the apache2.conf file other than that
[16:10] <omkar_> I guess ur asking abt the script alias thingy
[16:11] <Pici> omkar_: I'm talking about the section titled 'Enable CGI and perl support for apache2 server'
[16:13] <omkar_> let me check
[16:13] <phoenix__> the vlc website says that the vlc in kubuntu lucid lynx v. 1.0.6 is out of date, it recommends t upgrade to v.1.1.x manually but, they have not specified the procedure. can anyone help me with this
[16:13] <omkar_> nope i didn't change it
[16:14] <omkar_> waht should I mention apache2.conf now
[16:14] <phoenix__> the vlc website says that the vlc in kubuntu lucid lynx v. 1.0.6 is out of date, it recommends t upgrade to v.1.1.x manually but, they have not specified the procedure. can anyone help me with this
[16:15] <cablop> i need the kade core base or whatever it is called to be able to sun some kde apps, i don't want to install kubuntu-desktop, cause i don't need things like koffice and related, just the basics, what can i do?
[16:17] <Pici> omkar_: Modify apache2.conf (or preferably /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default) and add the ScriptAlias and directory directives for whatever path you want to handle your cgi-bin scripts.
[16:17] <phoenix__> the vlc website says that the vlc in kubuntu lucid lynx v. 1.0.6 is out of date, it recommends t upgrade to v.1.1.x manually but, they have not specified the procedure. can anyone help me with this
[16:17] <Pici> phoenix__: Please stop repeating so quickly.
[16:17] <phoenix__> steps to install vlc manually?
[16:17] <phoenix__> sorry oici
[16:17] <phoenix__> sorry pici
[16:18] <Pici> phoenix__: I suppose you could download the .deb file that vlc has on their website, but be aware that we cannot provide support for 3rd party packages.
[16:19] <phoenix__> i couldn't find the .deb file on thier website
[16:27] <omkar_> ok
[16:28] <BluesKaj> phoenix__, there is a website that has a deb beta 1.1 vlc version
[16:28] <phoenix__> you mean get deb?
[16:29] <omkar_> done
[16:29] <Guest23707> is this thing on?
[16:29] <omkar_> now if i have pointed the script alias to my /home/omkar/ how would i load the same in the firefox
[16:33] <BluesKaj> phoenix__, no sourceforge I think
[16:33] <nobarking> does anyone know where the configurations for a Customized Plasma theme is stored?
[16:34] <phoenix__> just now i downloaded the source from the sourceforge, i have to compile it. is there a deb for this. if so can you paste the link here
[16:38] <omkar_> pici
[16:38] <James147> nobarking: desktop themes are stored at /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/  ... but customized ones should eb where you placed them...
[16:39] <nobarking> James147: thanks again you're pointing me to the right direction!
[16:39] <James147> nobarking: or if you dled them they might end up in ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/
[16:45] <nobarking> i think when Desktop Effects is enabled the plasma themes look at the "opaque" folder for the transparent panel image.
[16:45] <nobarking> going to try it out
[16:45] <nobarking> brb
[16:52] <omkar_> u there pici
[16:52] <omkar_> if i have given script alias to my home directory will it work
[16:52] <omkar_> n also after restarting apache2 it gives me this message
[17:27] <rousing> hi
[17:28] <rousing> i'm using karmic on my laptop, and i'd like to benifit from my external minitor "big" size
[17:28] <rousing> when i connect the externam monitor i can go only up to 1280x1024 while under windiws i can reach 1680x1025
[17:29] <rousing> how can i change to resolution please ?
[17:35] <DarthFrog> rousing: That's a good question.  I'd try System Settings/Hardware/Display and Monitor.  See if you can set it there.
[17:35] <glaucous> What's the command for copying, mirror, backup files, and so on?
[17:36] <glaucous> I do not mean "cp", but there's another for suitable command for backup
[17:36] <DarthFrog> glaucous: cp to copy.  I'd use rsync for backup.
[17:36] <Pici> rsync?
[17:36] <glaucous> Pici: DarthFrog: Yes that's it, thanks.
[17:36] <DarthFrog> rsync rawks!
[17:36] <rousing> DarthFrog: playing with xrandr which doesnt show the resolution im looking for
[17:37] <DarthFrog> rousing: In System Settings, you can choose which monitor (if detected) to individually set rez.
[17:37] <glaucous> DarthFrog or Pici, do anyone of you know a good tutorial/documentation of rsync?
[17:37] <DarthFrog> glaucous: man rsync.
[17:38] <glaucous> DarthFrog: Somehow I did not think of that.. thanks =p
[17:38] <DarthFrog> Gee, aren't I helpful?
[17:38] <DarthFrog> :-)
[17:42] <rousing> DarthFrog: i dont have any Display/monitor section i'm using karmic
[17:42] <rousing> DarthFrog: xrandr doesnt recognize the resolution i'm asking for
[17:43] <DarthFrog> rousing: is xrandr detecting the second monitor?
[17:43] <rousing> DarthFrog: indeed
[17:43] <rousing> DarthFrog: it detects it, detects plenty of resolutions but they're low
[17:44] <rousing> DarthFrog: need to add 1680x1050
[17:45] <DarthFrog> Did you boot with the external monitor attached or did you plug it in after booting?
[17:46] <DarthFrog> Display and Monitor might be only in the new KDE 4.5 - I'm running RC2 on Lucid.
[17:47] <glaucous> DarthFrog: Perhaps you could help me with this rsync problem. It says that my file (9.2 GB) is too large, although the destination drive's got more than 30 GB left.
[17:50] <glaucous> DarthFrog: Although it seems to be working now when I specifically copied the ISO file instead of the directory.. hm
[17:50] <glaucous> No nevermind, it failed.
[17:54] <glaucous> DarthFrog: Damn I'm stupid, I'm copying to a fat32 partition. Nevermind. >.<
[17:59] <cannonfodder> hey youguys, i installed compiz manager on ubuntu 10.04 and i noticed it doesnt have as much animations as i seen it on previous versions...for example, the burn animation is gone....is there a way to get more animation? or install the full compiz...seems like i got a half assed version
[18:00] <James147> cannonfodder: you might want to ask in #ubuntu
[18:05] <glaucous> This might be an odd question. But did anyone see my messages above about problems with rsync, copying to fat32 and so on? And did anyone answer them? In that case I have some problems with Quassel IRC.
[18:07] <DarthFrog> glaucous: I saw the questions (when I got back to the keyboard).  Nobody answered them as you answered yourself by the fat32 comment. :-)
[18:08] <glaucous> DarthFrog, Okay good. previously today I had some connection problems with Quassel, okay nice.
[18:08] <DarthFrog> glaucous: You said never mind.  So I never minded.
[18:08] <glaucous> DarthFrog, no worries, you did the right thing
[18:45] <zweird> hey all, just installed 10.04 and most things were a breeze, but i'm having trouble setting up my asus xonar essence stx
[18:46] <zweird> when i open up kmix i don't get this display http://techgage.com/articles/asus/xonar_linux/asus_xonar_stx_linux_101909_thumb.png
[18:46] <zweird> the xonar essence tab only has the "master" channel, nothing else is displayed
[18:47] <zweird> any ideas?
[18:48] <James147> zweird: settings > configure channels
[18:56] <superbob> anybody know of an IRC to discuss Linux C Code?
[19:11] <zweird> james147: thanks, that was easy!
[19:11] <zweird> i now have  audio, just not in amarok or firefox
[19:11] <zweird> any further ideas?
[19:12] <zweird> scratch that, amarok only needed a restart
[19:19] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[19:20] <Klaus_Dieter> at times I get a pop-up that there are security fixes available however there is no tray icon to click such that these fixes are installed. What should be started to make this work?
[19:20] <Klaus_Dieter> So far I have only found references to "how to turn off update-notifier-kde" however that binary does not exist on this system
[19:22] <DarthFrog> Klaus_Dieter: there's an app in the System menu called Software Management.
[19:22] <DarthFrog> AKA kpackagekit.
[19:22] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: yeah and I know how to start kpackagemanager, however I want a little tray Icon to show up whenever I get this popup about the availability of security patches
[19:23] <DarthFrog> What about the systray notification icon?
[19:23] <Klaus_Dieter> I do not want to open a shell, run kpackagemanager, select all patches and hit install. I only want to say "allright, install them all. And while you are at it, download them without locking the package database because while you fetch the upgrades I might want to install some software of my own"
[19:23] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: it is not there
[19:23] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: My question is: how to get it
[19:24] <Klaus_Dieter> I only see the knotify message but no icon
[19:24] <DarthFrog> Well, the package database is going to be locked.
[19:24] <Klaus_Dieter> yeah it is a bug in package management of most binary distros.   Hmm, I don't think I'd agree with that.
[19:25] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: it is a bug because the database is locked because a file is fetched from the web. this should not happen. locking should be finer grained
[19:26] <Klaus_Dieter> anyways. How do I get this icon?
[19:26] <DarthFrog> Locking the database tends to make the whole operation somewhat atomic.
[19:26] <Klaus_Dieter> fetching a file via http was never meant to be atomic.
[19:26] <Klaus_Dieter> it works as designed but the design is flawed
[19:27] <Klaus_Dieter> why can I not fetch multiple packages in parallel? or even fetch something large while installing something else?
[19:27] <Klaus_Dieter> should be possible
[19:27] <DarthFrog> I can see your point but I think it's a matter of opinion. :-)  The devs obviously have a differing opinion to yours.
[19:28] <Klaus_Dieter> well I think nobody bothered enough to look into it because there are so many other interesting problems to work at
[19:28] <Klaus_Dieter> for non-linux systems and for meta distributions like gentoo this is possible and also implemented
[19:28] <Klaus_Dieter> but that is not what I came here to discuss ;)
[19:28] <DarthFrog> Have you suggested it as a feature request?  I think the GUI behaviour reflects the underlying apt-get behaviour.
[19:29] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: do you happen to know how I can turn on this tray notifier?
[19:29] <DarthFrog> Have you looked into the "Add Widgets" utility?
[19:29] <DarthFrog> I don't know that there's anything there but that's where I'd start.
[19:29] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: yes, however it is not in the list
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Are you sure it exists?  I don't know one way or the other.
[19:31] <Klaus_Dieter> I am not sure but I cannot imagine the ubuntu devs thinking about every aspect of power management but leaving that one out ;)
[19:31] <Klaus_Dieter> also I do not have a volume control - somehow kmix seems to be broken such that it always shows its main window
[19:32] <Klaus_Dieter> and closing that also closes the tray icon
[19:32] <rousing> hi
[19:33] <rousing> (karmic) i need to create a correct xorg.conf, so after Ctr+Alt+F1 i call sudo service kdm stop then sudo X -configure
[19:33] <rousing> It fails all the time saying that a X session is already running
[19:36] <DarthFrog> Klaus_Dieter: I think that Ubuntu GNOME has the tray utility you seek.  But that doesn't mean that Kubuntu has one.  Although I love KDE, the Kubuntu implementation tends to lack many of the Ubuntu specific GUI utilities/enhancements.
[19:37] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: hmm too bad
[19:38] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: well there is no way in hell I am switching to gnome because of this ;)
[19:39] <DarthFrog> Klaus_Dieter: Good choice. :-)   No doubt things will be improved in the future.  You can add your feature request to the "Paper Cuts" list, I should imagine.
[19:41] <Klaus_Dieter> paper cuts list?
[19:42] <DarthFrog> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneHundredPaperCuts
[19:43] <DarthFrog> https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/maverick
[19:45] <Klaus_Dieter> thank you
[19:47] <DarthFrog> The "100 Paper Cuts" project is an excellent idea to improve the new user experience out of the box with Ubuntu.
[19:54] <zweird> speaking of paper cuts... anyone know how to get flash audio on a fresh install of 10.04?
[19:54] <DarthFrog> Did you install the flash player?
[19:55] <zweird> yes, and flash-aid as well
[19:55] <zweird> video is fine, just no audio
[19:55] <DarthFrog> Strange.
[19:55] <zweird> and the audio isn't present in chromium OR ff
[19:55] <zweird> but works fine everywhere else that i've tried
[19:57] <Klaus_Dieter> well chromium and ff are both awkward browsers.... :-)
[19:57]  * Klaus_Dieter gets out a blow torch
[19:58] <caroline_> Hello every body
[19:58] <zweird> awkward my ass
[19:58] <zweird> konqueror is fast, but that's about it
[19:59] <zweird> is it possible i need to install pulseaudio in order for flash to work properly? it seems there are plenty of pulse packages already installed, but not the sound server
[20:00] <caroline_> I have just installed Kubuntu on my new laptop and I got some trouble with the sound
[20:00] <caroline_> is it the rigth place to find some help?
[20:01] <caroline_> or is there a dedicated channel to ask a question?
[20:01] <DarthFrog> caroline_: No guarantees, but yes it is.  You may or may not get the help you need.
[20:01] <caroline_> ok thanks DarthFrog
[20:01] <caroline_> the sound is working fine and then just turn down
[20:02] <caroline_> if I go to system configuration > multimedia
[20:02] <caroline_> if I test the pereipherique
[20:02] <caroline_> it say
[20:02] <DarthFrog>  <caroline_> the sound is working fine and then just turn down  <- I don't understand what you mean.
[20:03] <caroline_> sorry for my english
[20:03] <caroline_> when I loggin to the computer the sound is working
[20:03] <DarthFrog> Your english is better than my french. :-)
[20:03] <caroline_> and after a while it just stop working
[20:04] <caroline_> DarthFrog: how do you know I am french?
[20:04] <DarthFrog>  <caroline_> if I test the pereipherique
[20:04] <caroline_> lol
[20:04] <caroline_> so your french is not so bad!
[20:05] <DarthFrog> je pense vous etes francais.
[20:05] <caroline_> oui je suis francaise :)
[20:06] <caroline_> so when I test using the test button the audio it say:
[20:06] <DarthFrog> There is a French speaking channel, you know, if you'd feel more comfortable.
[20:06] <caroline_> no I did not know
[20:06] <DarthFrog> !fr | caroline_
[20:06] <caroline_> it migth be easier for me (and less anoying for you)
[20:06] <DarthFrog> Not annoying at all.
[20:07] <zweird> WAIT!
[20:07] <zweird> Do not kick the french ladies out!
[20:07] <caroline_> ok I go see there and if they cannot help me I come back :)
[20:07] <zweird> This is a very bad idea.
[20:07] <caroline_> lol
[20:07] <caroline_> np
[20:07] <DarthFrog> zweird: I'm not kicking her out.  She's very welcome here.  I'm just saying she might be better off in her native language, if she prefers.
[20:08] <zweird> i know, i know
[20:09] <jimmy51_> any recommended ftp clients for kubuntu?
[20:09] <DarthFrog> jimmy51_: I use ncftp from the command line.
[20:09] <jimmy51_> DarthFrog: eh... anything with a UI?
[20:09] <DarthFrog> Or konqueror for a GUI client.
[20:32] <cjae> I need a  newer version of k3b than the one on my system, it there a single repo that has it, cant quite remember how  to do it
[20:32] <cjae> without getting the entire repo
[20:46] <cjae> will enabling backports give me a newer version of k3b? 10.04
[21:07] <cjae> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-45-rc-2     ok so if I try to do this
[21:08] <cjae> it says many blocked updates are in it and last time I tried it my system broke
[21:09] <cjae> but I think I forgot to uninstall nvidia driver or something first
[21:11]  * cjae wishes you could ask kde question in #ubuntu
[21:11] <georg> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <slinker1> cjae you will have to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to pull in all the kde rc stuff
[21:13] <cjae> slinker1: are you using it? I mean I got a working system last time I tried it but I used sudo aptitude full-upgrade, I just has no X
[21:13] <cjae> new mobo now and ati onboard
[21:14] <mvk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/612128
[21:14] <cjae> think it using opensource ati driver too since kwin (compiz) works
[21:15] <cjae> so I should use dist-upgrade?
[21:16] <cjae> I mean it not hard for me to get system back up without losing anything but would like to try to avoid it
[21:18] <cjae> actually just need a newer version of k3b so I burn bluray discs, send a bug report about it few months ago and seems it be repaired
[21:18] <cjae> sent*
[21:19] <slinker1> yes i have been using it since the first rc
[21:19] <cjae> cool is dist-upgrade availiable for aptitude?
[21:20]  * cjae has terrible memory
[21:20] <slinker1> sure should be aptitude dist-upgrade i think
[21:21] <cjae> ok will try
[21:21] <cjae> thanks
[21:22] <slinker1> np and remember if you break it you get to keep both halves :)
[21:22] <cjae> lol
[21:48] <cjae> hello
[21:48] <cjae> using irssi so bear with me
[21:49] <cjae> broke system while actually just x
[21:50] <cjae> who was talking to me before? about 4.5 rc2
[21:52] <cjae> so now I have tried rc2 on an i386 and 64 bit system with ati and nvidia
[21:52] <cjae> and all still no x server
[21:52] <gnomefreak> irssi is easy and fun :)
[21:53] <cjae> just used to cli, the cli crossover from gui is taking longer than expected
[21:53] <cjae> -cli + gui
[21:55] <cjae> is there a way to do commands without having to switch ttys
[21:55] <BluesKaj> what is your graphics card, cjae ?
[21:57] <cjae> BluesKaj: not sure about specifics but it is ati onboard can do a lshw if  you like
[21:58] <cjae> brb
[22:00] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA will be fine
[22:02] <cjae> ok wow almost had no tty
[22:03] <cjae> was wondering would some of my kde modifications naybe be holding me up? should I clear out .kde?
[22:03] <cjae> like themes and such
[22:04] <cjae> or should I check a xorg.log like I get a kdm screen but it freezes right after you put in password
[22:06] <BluesKaj> do you have a failsafe option at login?
[22:08] <cjae> BluesKaj: never tried that but a check of xorg log says something about aiglx suspends clients for VT switch
[22:09] <cjae> and dmesg tail doesnt look like its waiting on anything
[22:10] <cjae> I will try the failsafe
[22:10] <cjae> forgot about it :0
[22:11] <BluesKaj> it would be good to know the ati card model so we can determine the proper driver , stop kdm and  install the right one
[22:12] <BluesKaj> also removr the existing driver first
[22:14] <cjae> BluesKaj: ok so failsafe showed me a terminal I had open then crashed back to kdm login
[22:14] <cjae> BluesKaj: but I did upgrade the workspace package that was blocked
[22:15] <cjae> cause I thiught it was the problem and the bug page looked like it just drew small white box in corner
[22:15] <cjae> will do a lshw
[22:15] <BluesKaj> cjae, we need to know the kernel source driver
[22:15] <cjae> ok how
[22:16] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA
[22:16] <cjae> one sec
[22:17] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[22:18] <cjae> how do I copy a line from another tty to here
[22:21] <BluesKaj> from one tty to another ? dunno...using just one tty should suffice
[22:21] <cjae> well I have irrsi on tty1 and doing commands on tty3
[22:22] <cjae> tried typing it and crt c and crtv here but did not work
[22:22] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA shouldn't be hard to remember
[22:23] <BluesKaj> ctrl c , ctrl v
[22:23] <cjae> says vga compatible controller ATI Tech INC rs 880 [radeon hd 4200]
[22:27] <cjae> BluesKaj: did you catch that?
[22:32] <BluesKaj> yeah cjae
[22:32] <BluesKaj> searching
[22:32] <cjae> k
[22:34] <cjae> using links2 to look around so might not respond too quickly
[22:35] <Klaus_Dieter> hmm what is a good way to search for an application on console? apt-get does not seem to provide this functionality
[22:36] <DarthFrog> An installed app or one to install?
[22:36] <Klaus_Dieter> one to install by package name - case insensitive
[22:36] <Klaus_Dieter> and also by binary to be installed
[22:36] <DarthFrog> apt-cache search
[22:37] <Klaus_Dieter> that is case sensitive however :/
[22:37] <cjae> how so I get the search bar with links2 tab, crtl tab, home nothing seems to work stuck in top corner
[22:37] <BluesKaj> sudo service kdm stop , then ,sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[22:37] <DarthFrog> eg. "apt-cache search | grep flash" will give you all apps that deal with flash.
[22:38] <brimestone> hey guys... i just upgrade to Server 10.x and im getting some issue with sshd... "Connection reset by peer" then a "port 22: Connection refused" then trying to reconnect...
[22:38] <brimestone> if i let a good 5 mins goes by.. then i can connect to it just fine
[22:38] <cjae> BluesKaj: k
[22:38] <BluesKaj> cjae, then sudo service kdm restart , then startx
[22:39] <BluesKaj> bbl
[22:42] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: apt-cache search .* just burns loads of cpu time
[22:42] <Klaus_Dieter> and does not output anything
[22:42] <Klaus_Dieter> and without the .* I get an error that I have to specify a parameter
[22:43] <DarthFrog> Right.
[22:44] <Klaus_Dieter> well it should have been apt-cache search '.*'
[22:44] <DarthFrog> But it'll also search the description.   So you can grep the output.
[22:45] <cjae> didnt work
[22:45] <Klaus_Dieter> so what about if I am looking for a specific binary?
[22:45] <DarthFrog> Klaus_Dieter: Which one?
[22:46] <cjae> how do I remove and update I installed? rollback?
[22:47] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: well recently I was looking for the mp4box binary - now I am looking for epeg
[22:47] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: but I'd like a way to find this
[22:47] <DarthFrog> apt-cache search epeg
[22:47] <Klaus_Dieter> instead of being told the package
[22:47] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: tried that
[22:47] <Klaus_Dieter> it is unknown
[22:48] <DarthFrog> Klaus_Dieter: OK, I think I'm not clear on what you want.
[22:48] <Klaus_Dieter> DarthFrog: I am looking for the package containing the epeg binary
[22:51] <Klaus_Dieter> better yet: I am looking for a generic way of answering the question "I have the name of a binary, what package does it belong to - be it installed or uninstalled"
[22:53] <BluesKaj> Klaus_Dieter, aptitude show nameofapplication | grep State will trll if an app is installed
[23:07] <leonie_> ...
[23:47] <cjae> so back up with gui had to reinstall
[23:48] <cjae> so I ask is there anyne here with ati onboard and kde 4.5 installed?


[12:04] <allee> amu: as PPC developer: are you aware of any debian/rules hack to pass -DWORDS_BIGENDIAN to g++?
[12:06] <allee> amn: background, digikam 0.7.2 backport of kde svn : svn diff -u 411787:411788   without bloating the diff with the hole configure and Makefile.in stuff
[09:35] <JRe> lo
[09:35] <KaiL> morning
[09:39] <haggai> moin
[09:39] <JRe> anyone have try kcheckgmail?
[09:41] <haggai> allee: there is a technique often used to implement things like DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug in debian/rules.  Is the packaging cdbs based?
[10:38] <allee> hi all
[10:40] <allee> haggai: yes digikam cdbs based.  AFAIR 'debug' stuff uses configure --enable-debug(=full).  Nevertheless I'll check cdbs rules files.  Thx.
[10:49] <haggai> allee: in that case you can set CXXFLAGS
[10:50] <allee> haggai: thx I'll try tonight
[12:12] <JRe> allee: Okay i have rebuild katapult with ehanced changelog, copyrith, less deps and cdbs thanks to your advices
[12:13] <allee> JRe: quick look  (2 min until lunch)
[12:14] <JRe> better do this after lunch ;) good appetite!
[12:15] <allee> JRe: yeah, look like I looked at the yesterdays diff.  Later ;)
[12:27] <JRe> okay everything uploaded: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/wikini/wakka.php?wiki=KubuntU, no lintian errors
[12:42] <JRe> i want to add a page KubuntuPackagingGuide, which is the best place to put the link in the wiki?
[12:42] <Riddell> JRe: from Kubuntu
[12:43] <JRe> Riddell: okay
[02:26] <JRe> allee: packages are ready, take a look to KubuntuPackagingGuide when you have time
[04:07] <allee> JRe: copyright file:  the copyright: section is really licsense: one.   For copyright: section  grep -i copyright at least all files. kdesdk has a lisensecheck tool that will tell you if everything is 'really' GPL
[04:08] <jre_> ???
[04:13] <allee> JRe: diff contains a unnecessary katapult.1 file.  Why wasn't it done by the clean/katapult in rules?? (a check with diffstat uncoveres such problems)
[04:14] <allee> JRe: you write Copyright:
[04:14] <allee> and then software is GPL
[04:14] <allee> GPL is the license not the copyright.
[04:17] <allee> JRe: control Matter of taste of course:  both, short and long description could be a bit longer
[04:18] <allee> JRe: control: you specify the tar file instead of the homepage in long desc
[04:20] <JRe> okay!!!!!!!!
[04:20] <JRe> allee: understands now
[04:21] <JRe> allee: can i tell all the software copryght the author, 2005 ?
[04:21] <allee> JRe: Recommends/Suggests:  have you tought about what pkgs katapult may needs to be useful
[04:21] <JRe> allee: yeah none
[04:23] <JRe> allee: you mean that the clean/katapult rules does not worlk?
[04:23] <allee> JRe: AFAIU  'all the software' is fine, but it's a good idea to use a copy of the copyright notice from the source file
[04:23] <allee> JRe: yes,  because the katapult.1 is in the diff.  clean target is execute before the diff is generated.
[04:27] <JRe> allee: okay i make the changes ;) but the package was better thaht yesterday no?
[04:27] <allee> JRe: of course!!!!!
[04:29] <allee> JRe: If I had not like your work right from the beginning I would not have spend any time with it.
[04:30] <JRe> allee: thanks ;) i have learned many things with your advices!
[04:31] <allee> JRe: all the stuff is final polishing.  I've seen quite some pkgs from official debian maintainer that weren't as polished as yours ;)
[04:31] <Riddell> polishing it is what packages are all about, we polish so the users don't have to
[04:32] <JRe> allee: ;)! But thanks too you all the packages i'll do next we'll be polished like this one
[04:34] <allee> Riddell: If katapult.1 is in the diff or not is something the user does not care ;)   But you are right we have to do your best to serve the needs of the users
[04:36] <allee> Riddell: and last but not least:  you do really a great job for the users!!!!!!!
[04:39] <Riddell> allee: well you've been doing a good job this last day, I'm sure I could learn some packaging techniques off you
[04:40] <Riddell> allee: going to become MOTU?
[04:42] <allee> Guess why I was lurking at the CC yesterday ;).    My main problem is free time and that have to learn lot about (k)ubuntu.
[04:42] <Riddell> allee: are there any packages of yours we should review?
[04:42] <allee> Riddell: and one of the standard questions:  what have you done already for ubuntu.  I realized that I had not much to offer for an application
[04:44] <Riddell> find something to package?
[04:44] <allee> last time I checked my debian pkgs were uptodate.
[04:44] <allee> in ubuntu that is
[04:46] <allee> pkg new stuff is not that pressing for me.  Kubuntu has the stuff I need.  My (would like to plans) shift to  better integration and interoperation of pkgs ...
[04:47] <allee> e.g.  autostart of digikam when camera is pluged in.   GUI support for networking at different locations etc
[04:49] <allee> I've noted some udu pages during the last UDU irc meetings 2 days ago.  When time permits I'll try to help here and there.
[04:53] <Riddell> yep
[04:53] <Riddell> both good goals
[05:07] <JRe> anyone is developping a kde-volume-manager?
[05:10] <JRe> allee: victory the katapult.1 has disappear!
[05:11] <JRe> :)
[05:12] <Riddell> JRe: well the media:/ ioslave is there, what's missing is a kded module to do something useful when devices are plugged in
[05:12] <Riddell> I think the guy was developing that but I need to check back with him
[05:13] <allee> JRe: yeah!
[05:14] <allee> Riddell: you mean enrico?
[05:14] <Riddell> that sounds like the ddue
[05:14] <Riddell> dude
[05:15] <JRe> Riddell: okay! it would be a great feature for the users i think!
[05:15] <allee> yeah, but maybe ervin, not sure.  Ervin in right now in #kalyxo, hint ;)
[05:17] <Riddell> ervin does the non-hal stuff in media:/  he doesn't like hal
[05:18] <allee> ah
[05:18] <allee> JRe: packaging guide.  Good work.
[05:19] <JRe> allee: cat .kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/freenode_#kubuntu-devel.log | grep allee > Usefull_Tips
[05:19] <allee> Some pointers I miss are:  debian-mentors web site and mailing list.
[05:20] <JRe> allee: yeah right i am going to add a section about the copyrights too ;)
[05:20] <allee> JRe: :)
[05:21] <allee> JRe: Kalyxo also add a nice half page long intro.  Assumed a 'standard' KDE applications.  So these 5 steps and you get a deb.
[05:22] <Riddell> kalyxo still don't have dns
[05:22] <allee> Riddell: mornfall hosts a copy somewhere ...
[05:28] <JRe> yeah a kalyxo can bu very useful :)
[05:28] <JRe> guide
[06:28] <JRe> okay goodbye everyone!
[06:31] <hussam> hey I switched to breezy two days ago
[06:31] <hussam> today I did apt-get
[06:31] <hussam> there
[06:31] <hussam> there's a new dbus packae
[06:31] <hussam> *package
[06:32] <hussam> but to install it, syanptic says it has to remove kdebase, what should I do?
[06:32] <hussam> anybody here?
[06:33] <Riddell> hussam: probably not much you can do until we upload a new kdebase
[06:33] <Riddell> which will be either when the g++ transition happens or kde 3.4.1
[06:34] <hussam> Riddell: but kde 3.4.1 isn't anytime soon
[06:34] <hussam> is it?
[06:34] <Riddell> about 3 weeks
[06:36] <amu> The following packages have been kept back:
[06:36] <amu>   dbus-1-utils hal hal-device-manager pmount python2.4-dbus
[06:37] <amu> hussam: so i sould not upgrade my breezy
[06:37] <hussam> amu: i'm getting:
[06:37] <hussam> amu: dbus-1-utils hal libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common pmount python2.4-dbus
[06:37] <hussam> kept back
[06:38] <hussam> but all of which can be installed if I remove kdebase
[06:38] <hussam> which I'm not going to
[06:39] <amu> understandable ;)
[06:40] <hussam> amu: but Riddell says they will upgrade kdebase in 3 weeks to work again
[06:40] <hussam> well, I guess I'll have to wait
[06:41] <hussam> brb
[06:54] <hunger> So we have to live with held back packages for the next couple of weeks?
[06:55] <amu> hussam: sounds nice ;)
[06:55] <Riddell> hunger: depends when the g++ transition happens
[06:55] <hunger> Riddell: Ah. Well, it makes sense to wait for that.
[06:56] <hussam> amu: I just asked in #kde and they say kde 3.4.1 will be tagged on the 23 and released a week after
[06:57] <amu> hussam: great ;)
[06:59] <hunger> Any highlights in 3.4.1 or is it just bugfixes?
[06:59] <hunger> Sounds like the latter, but you never know...
[07:01] <hussam> Riddell: is there anyway I can rebuild this new dbus so that I don't have to remove kdebase?
[07:02] <Riddell> hussam: you could rebuild kdebase
[07:04] <hussam> I'm very familiar with rebuilding rpms but this is the first time I use a debian based distro
[07:04] <Riddell> apt-get source kdebase && cd kdebase-3.4.0 ** debuild
[07:04] <hunger> hussam: apt-get source kdebase to grab the source, dpkg-build* to rebuild.
[07:04] <uniq> rebuilding is pretty easy.. 'apt-get source -b package'
[07:04] <Riddell> apt-get source kdebase && cd kdebase-3.4.0 && debuild
[07:04] <Riddell> or like uniq says
[07:04] <hunger> hussam: Very easy...
[07:07] <hussam> so I install dbus and remove kdebase
[07:07] <hussam> than build kdebase and install it
[07:07] <hussam> ?
[07:08] <uniq> yes.
[07:09] <hussam> ok thanks
[07:09] <hussam> I'll do that tonight
[07:25] <hussam> one last question, will rebuilding automatically fix the dependency issue or do I have to edit some spec file before I rebuild?
[07:26] <Riddell> should fix it automatically
[07:27] <Riddell> hussam: check debian/control for dbus version though
[07:28] <Riddell> allee: we've had a request to package knoda...just incase you were looking for something :)
[07:30] <allee> Riddell: lastest knoda is in sid/sarge.  Shouldn't be hard to 'port' (exercise to the reader) ...
[07:30] <Riddell> hmm, should auto import then
[07:31] <Riddell> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/knoda/  by golly it's there
[07:31] <allee> Riddell: seriously  I only started knoda once 3 days ago to look at it.  Pkg is easy, but who 'maintains' it?  I've no experience with this tool.
[07:31] <Riddell> ah wait, doesn't look like it's compiled
[07:32] <Riddell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/knoda/0.7-1/  miserable failure
[07:33] <allee> Hmm, 0.7-1?  Last is 0.7.3-1 in debian
[07:33] <allee> Does autoimport stop after one version fails to build?
[07:33] <Riddell> not sure
[07:33] <KaiL> and can only work better ;)


[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #5741 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Another problem with mac keyboard" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5741
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #13379 in xserver-xorg-driver-nv (main) "[nv]  screen needs reinit after lid open/shut" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13379
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #9181 in xorg (main) "xbase-clients: [setxkbmap]  Segmentation fault" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9181
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106148 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "[fglrx]  Scrambled mouse pointer and parts of screen in big desktop mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106148
[11:33] <ubotu> New bug: #104989 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Totem: YUV video, U/V components are swapped" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104989
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106181 in xorg (main) ""turn off" from kde menu crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106181
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106015 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock() (dup-of: 81889)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106015
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106202 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "Fiesty Herd5 Live CD incorrectly boots at 640*480" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106202
[02:43] <ubotu> New bug: #106191 in xorg (main) "suspend to ram not working since last kernel update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106191
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106199 in xorg (main) "[feisty]  50% of cpu when a page is waiting to load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106199
[03:20] <tepsipakki> oh goody
[03:21] <tepsipakki> seems that discover-data changed the ATI vendor string in August
[03:21] <tepsipakki> so all the trickery we had in xserver-xorg.postinst didn't work
[03:21] <Mithrandir> heh
[03:22] <tepsipakki> the new version should fix at least some post-dapper regressions..
[03:22] <tepsipakki> Mithrandir: ok to upload?
[03:25] <tepsipakki> http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/xorg.debdiff
[03:33] <tepsipakki> I'll upload it, since I need to run elsewhere now.. leave it in the queue if it's not suitable
[03:38] <Mithrandir> thanks.
[03:39] <Mithrandir> sorry, I get dragged in half a zillion directions here so I keep being distracted.
[03:39] <tepsipakki> heh :)
[03:39] <tepsipakki> ->
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #105138 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-settings wont work with nvidia legacy driver" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105138
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106317 in xorg (main) "Xserver not working after installing dapper ati drivers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106317
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106345 in xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting "i810 modesetting doesn't work with resolution 1366x768" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106345


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[20:27] <xnox> Hm, i seemed to have lost filters on the bug page?
[20:28] <xnox> e.g. sort by bug #, sort by heat, etc.?
[20:28] <xnox> oh, reload helped.
[20:28] <xnox> back to normal.