[12:00] <Stew2> jpwain: Or it's a list of IP's you allow connection from, somewhere in the config
[12:00] <jpwain> Stew2: Right, that's where I got hung up. Not sure where to look.
[12:00] <lance_> does the remote client have a firewall that is blocking the outbound ssh
[12:00] <jpwain> Nope
[12:00] <Stew2> jpwain: Usually a .conf file in /etc.
[12:00] <marcin_ant> Error on file:///[myhomefolder] /.evolution/calendar/local/system: Can't save calendar data: Malformed URI
[12:00] <jpwain> Note this is a totally virgin install of openssh and so I haven't done any configuration
[12:01] <jpwain> Stew2: I wouldn't have guessed that OpenSSH has that sort of setup (blocking external addresses by default) but i'll checked
[12:01] <Stew2> jpwain: I don't think I've used open-ssh, just whatever sshd is installed in ubuntu by default.
[12:01] <marcin_ant> but these entries are saved in calendar - I only need to click Ok on this error message
[12:01] <jpwain> There is no sshd!
[12:01] <Stew2> jpwain: So I doubt it's a firewall issue.
[12:01] <marcin_ant> can anyone help me with this thing?
[12:01] <Stew2> jpwain: Really. Hmmm. I thought there was one installed by default.
[12:01] <shock> Error on file:///[myhomefolder] /.evolution/calendar/local/system: Can't save calendar data: Malformed URI <--- bingo I have the very same error
[12:01] <shock> :(
[12:02] <lance_> as I recall from my ubuntu install, the ssh client was installed, but not the service.
[12:02] <Stew2> jpwain: Well, in that case, not the machine I'm on, but it is possible...
[12:02] <shock> no solution found so far
[12:02] <jpwain> I hunted around on the Ubuntu website and everything I read instructed to install openssh with apt-get
[12:02] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get install ssh
[12:02] <HrdwrBoB> and it works
[12:02] <jpwain> Right
[12:02] <Stew2> jpwain: Don't know what I used. I didn't have to configure the sshd though to allow connections from outside the box.
[12:02] <jpwain> not openssh?
 make shure you tell me if you find a solution
[12:02] <jpwain> Maybe my problem was apt-getting openssh rather than just ssh
[12:02] <shock> :)
[12:02] <Stew2> jpwain: I'm using the term sshd generically. I don't know what the daemon service was I installed. It would have been something from synaptic.
[12:03] <jpwain> Hmm
[12:03] <marcin_ant> shock: do you have the same problem?
[12:03] <stephank> Hello. Is it safe to remove ubuntu-base or ubuntu-desktop? I'm trying to uninstall packages like emacs and mdadm which are dependencies apparently.
[12:03] <shock> yes
[12:03] <shock> also in calendar
[12:03] <shock> with appointments
[12:03] <marcin_ant> yes and with tasks...
[12:03] <shock> (and my imap folders show up twice in list)
[12:03] <Stew2> PROBLEM: I got an error from X on this lousy box. It's (EE) Failed to load module "riva128" (module does not exist, 0).
[12:04] <bob2> Stew2: using hoary?
[12:04] <Stew2> bob2 Yup.
[12:04] <Stew2> bob2 Yes I am. :)
[12:05] <Stew2> bob2 I'm using CTRL ALT F2, got IRSSI running so I can figure it out.
[12:05] <Stew2> bob2 Or so you can figure it out :)
[12:05] <Stew2> bob2 I downloaded an ISO last week of Hoary and burnt it. I did a fresh install on this box.
[12:05] <Stew2> bob2 I ran apt-get update, apt-get upgrade 5 minutes ago.
[12:07] <marcin_ant> shock: heh and when I'm trying to change something like task's status then it says that "Validation error: completed date is wrong"
[12:07] <shock> hm
[12:07] <bob2> then it's probably a bug
[12:08] <shock> I allready asken in the evolution list
[12:08] <marcin_ant> shock: even though "Date completed" is None - because for example "Percent complete" is 10%
[12:08] <shock> weirdness
[12:08] <shock> evolution is truely *****ed
[12:08] <shock> :(
[12:08] <Stew2> bob2 What do I do? Some people suggested running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and I did, though that doesn't solve the problem. I get an dexconf error, unexpected end of file, line 523
[12:08] <shock> But I absolutely need that application by now
[12:08] <shock> :(
[12:09] <shock> maybe I revert back to mutt
[12:09] <shock> *grml*
[12:09] <Stew2> bob2 Someone else said it's been fixed, to go for a walk or something. So I went to a friend's house, had a fun time, slept until 1pm and now I'm back.
[12:09] <TheCan> hi. where is the place to put options for modules in ubuntu?
[12:10] <Stew2> bob2 They said it should be available today. It was uploaded yesterday ... ?
[12:10] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[12:15] <Stew2> I got X running by switching device to "Standard VGA"
[12:17] <Stew2> Anyone have an idea as to why X comes up with a checkered background and an X for a cursor?
[12:17] <Stew2> That's the best I've been able to do so far with this Hoary distro.
[12:18] <marcin_ant> shock: and what about this evolution list - any answer?
[12:18] <shock> some - I mailed some dude several output files
[12:18] <shock> today
[12:18] <shock> havent gotten anything so far
[12:19] <bob2> Stew2: that means whatever else isn't running
[12:19] <bob2> ie gnome isn't starting
[12:19] <pantz_> i am unsucessfully trying to mount a smb share in fstab - anyone able to help me out?
[12:20] <pantz_> here is my line - //gandalf/share /media/share    smbfs   credentials=/home/pantz/.samba,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,umask=002,noauto,users       0 0
[12:20] <jpwain> Stew2: I think I figured out the SSH thing
[12:21] <jpwain> Stew2: by default Ubuntu's portmapper only listens to localhost, so I believe I have to edit /etc/default/portmap
[12:22] <bob2> er
[12:22] <bob2> portmap has nothing to do with ssh
[12:23] <Stew2> jpwain At some time on that box, I ran an iptables script. I don't know if that opened up those ports, etc or what. Possible.
[12:24] <Stew2> bob2 Well, dunno what to do. Can I change my sources to warty and run apt-get update?
[12:25] <TheCan> noone can tell me where to put options for modules in ubuntu? :( i need to pass a certain snd= option to the alsa driver
[12:25] <jpwain> bob2: is portmap not some network services filter of some sort?
[12:25] <cavediver> Hi, what's the easisert way to restore grub if my MBR has been corrupt.
[12:25] <TheCan> cavediver, user grub-install
[12:25] <snowblink> jpwain: what are you trying to do?
[12:25] <jpwain> snowblink: To get SSH running (so I can connect from remote locations)
[12:25] <cavediver> TheCan: from where ? Assuming i have shut down the system.
[12:26] <TheCan> cavediver, from the command line?
[12:26] <zazeem> anyone know the other linux os starts with an m, mepicks or something????????
[12:26] <llamakc> did you install the openssh-server package?
[12:26] <HrdwrBoB> mepis
[12:26] <Stew2> Where can I get a sources.list from ftp for Warty so I can take this broken &^ hoary distro and run warty on the box?
[12:26] <zazeem> thnx!
[12:26] <zazeem> <3
[12:26] <jpwain> llamakc: Yes, but I still can't connect from anywhere other than localhost
[12:26] <snowblink> jpwain: apt-get openssh-server
[12:26] <cavediver> TheCan: My mistake. If mbr is corrupt and I can't boot my linux-partition
[12:26] <zazeem> any other good linux versions like ubuntu?
[12:27] <jpwain> snowblink: I did; still can't connect from rmote locations
[12:27] <llamakc> is the sshd daemon running?
[12:27] <snowblink> jpwain: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[12:27] <jpwain> llamakc: I believe so; ps aux | grep ssh shows sshd
[12:27] <jpwain> snowblink: I did reboot the machine too
[12:27] <CAPTAIN_RON> zazeem: Try BeatrIX @ watsky.net
[12:27] <llamakc> shows your grep and sshd, right?
[12:27] <zazeem> beatrix?
[12:28] <CAPTAIN_RON> Yes it is a very trim down ubuntu
[12:28] <jpwain> llamakc: Yes
[12:28] <snowblink> jpwain: ssh -vvv yourbox
[12:28] <TheCan> cavediver, you need to boot externally via grub. like from grub-floppy or cdrom
[12:28] <lance_> jpwain, what you you get when you enter the comand "netstat -an | grep 22"
[12:29] <jpwain> lance_: Not sure -- I'm reinstalling Ubuntu now to see if I borked something there :)
[12:29] <lance_> jpwain: Just out of curiosity
[12:29] <CAPTAIN_RON> I am using it right now. I used ubuntu to learn on and beatrIX to use
[12:29] <jpwain> CAPTAIN_RON: Does BeatrIX come with X and Gnome or is it nice and stripped down?
[12:29] <cavediver> TheCan: I've been looking for how to maka a grub-bootable cdrom but can't find it. Only floppies.
[12:29] <snowblink> jpwain: where is it stopping?
[12:30] <jpwain> snowblink: Not stopping; the install went fine both times
[12:30] <CAPTAIN_RON> X & nome ... you get what ever you want after that
[12:30] <snowblink> jpwain: ssh -vvv yourbox
[12:30] <snowblink> jpwain: where is it stopping?
[12:30] <Cloudchaser> i was just reading about BeatrIX...you like it? CAPTAIN_RON ?
[12:30] <CAPTAIN_RON> Left out the G
[12:30] <jpwain> snowblink: I just wasn't able to connect via SSH after installing openssh
[12:30] <marcin_ant> hmm another problem
[12:30] <CAPTAIN_RON> I love it
[12:30] <Cloudchaser> i'm trying out ProMepis at the moment..it has kde and gnome
[12:31] <Cloudchaser> ubuntu live and gnoppix didn't work too well for me
[12:31] <snowblink> jpwain: if you're running ssh in debug mode you can't see any output at all?
[12:31] <marcin_ant> could someone help me and tell how to do gprs connection
[12:31] <lance_> jpwain: are you installing it as a virutal machine?
[12:31] <jpwain> lance_: No, just on an old P2 450mhz.
[12:31] <marcin_ant> with gprs modem connected via usb
[12:31] <Cloudchaser> the ubuntu live cd's don't seem quit as compatible to my machines i guess
[12:31] <CAPTAIN_RON> I tried it too ... came back to BeatrIX because it lets you pick what you want.
[12:31] <jpwain> lance_: Everything else works great and I can ping external hosts etc so I know that's working
[12:32] <Cloudchaser> i'll have to download that and try it out..i'm trying out alot of them ;)
[12:32] <Cloudchaser> i'll pick the ones i like best and install them to hd
[12:32] <marcin_ant> and this connection should be established automatically when pluggin this modem in
[12:32] <marcin_ant> is this available to do something like this?
[12:32] <lance_> jpwain: I am curious to know if it is lisetening on port 22.
[12:32] <CAPTAIN_RON> That is if you do a hdd install. Next version will let you add to the live cd
[12:32] <Cloudchaser> cool
[12:32] <jpwain> lance_: I will find out shortly. Reinstalling right now
[12:32] <Cloudchaser> knoppix is nice too, but just kde
[12:32] <jpwain> CAPTAIN_RON: How is the hardware support? Same as Ubuntu?
[12:33] <snowblink> jpwain: why are you reluctant to ssh in debug mode?
[12:33] <llamakc> snowblink is reinstalling the entire os?
[12:33] <jpwain> snowblink: I would, but the machine is busy mid-install of Ubuntu
[12:33] <llamakc> sorry, jpwain.
[12:33] <jpwain> np
[12:33] <llamakc> jpwain: why not just purge the files & reinstall openssh-server?
[12:34] <CAPTAIN_RON> It uses everything that ubuntu has. But it is made up of different distros so it takes the best of all to make it small and fast
[12:34] <jpwain> llamakc: Because I was silly enough to try a Debian net-inst also... I feel Ubuntu has lots of features (Gnome, OO, etc) that I don't want or need
[12:34] <zazeem> can i install beatrix like any other os on hardrive ?? or does it need ubuntu?
[12:34] <llamakc> ahh, so you are reinstalling debian or ubuntu?
[12:35] <CAPTAIN_RON> Dinner... got to go
[12:35] <jpwain> llamakc: Reinstalling Ubuntu. The Debian distro didn't support my NIC
[12:35] <jpwain> BeatrIX sounds pretty sweet though
[12:35] <llamakc> k
[12:35] <llamakc> debian's linux26 boot option didn't support your card?
[12:36] <zazeem> is beatrix easy to use and game compatible for linux games??
[12:36] <jpwain> I don't know anything about that option
[12:36] <Stew2> what do I run to pick screen options, resolution, colordepth in X?
[12:36] <llamakc> man the netinstaller for sarge has that. it installs a 2.6 kernel
[12:36] <llamakc> oh well, ubuntu will be fine
[12:36] <llamakc> just apt-get remove whatcha don't want
[12:36] <jpwain> I tried Debian net-inst because I wanted a more paired-down system... but with hardware support
[12:37] <Stew2> I've already run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. It quits normally (I think) after writing DRI files.
[12:37] <jpwain> Stew2: Just edit the config files manually
[12:37] <snowblink> Stew2: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:37] <Stew2> jpwain: Isn't there some app to run that asks me ? I've already tried editing xorg.conf manually. I don't seem to get anywhere.
[12:37] <jerM`needclan> yo, i need help. i just downloaded ubuntu, and since im so rusty right now, i need help figuring what to burn to get this .iso CD correctly.
[12:38] <llamakc> what os you on jerM
[12:38] <jpwain> jerM`needclan: Any CD burning app will work. What OS do you run right now?
[12:38] <Stew2> I know there's a non-manual way to do it.  I thought Ubuntu comes with Xfree86, not x.org
[12:38] <jerM`needclan> wait
[12:39] <snowblink> jpwain: hoary does
[12:39] <jerM`needclan> zazeem
[12:39] <llamakc> nah hoary has xorg
[12:39] <zazeem> ?
[12:39] <bitfoo> :O
[12:39] <defile> jpwain, Warty does, Hoary doesn't
[12:39] <bitfoo> i must...speed up ubuntu :|
[12:39] <jpwain> Which has what now?
[12:39] <Stew2> so what's the command to do a total configuration of the xserver part?
[12:39] <jpwain> Warty has x.org?
[12:39] <snowblink> defile: hedgehog yes, warthog no
[12:39] <jerM`needclan> its that the download made it file.rar so....it through me off, do i just burn it as image in nero or do i extract the files out of the .rar and then burn them as a image?
[12:39] <zazeem> warty has free86
[12:39] <llamakc> Stew2: if you run startx from the command line, what fails?
[12:40] <Stew2> llmakc I've said it before so many lines back... lemme see if I can find it.
[12:40] <llamakc> sorry, just woke up
[12:40] <Stew2> PROBLEM: I got an error from X on this lousy box. It's (EE) Failed to load module "riva128" (module does not exist, 0).
[12:40] <snowblink> jerM`needclan: burn the image of the ISO
[12:40] <llamakc> ok what card does lspci -v say you have?
[12:41] <Stew2> llamakc Well, I know it has an integrated Riva128 AGP on the motherboard.
[12:41] <llamakc> try the ati driver?
[12:42] <Stew2> llamakc It doesn't seem to indicate what I have..
[12:42] <Crane> Hello
[12:42] <Stew2> llamakc Uh, it's an NVIDIA card. Not ati.
[12:42] <llamakc> DOH
[12:42] <llamakc> sorry
[12:42] <Crane> Do you guys feel hoary is stabe enough for server use?
[12:42] <kbrooks> no.
[12:42] <llamakc> tried the "nv" driver
[12:42] <Stew2> llamakc Riva128's came out right before the TNT.
[12:42] <Crane> kbrooks, no to me?
[12:42] <Stew2> llamakc: What's the configuration program to run from the shell?
[12:42] <llamakc> xorgcfg
[12:43] <kbrooks> Crane, yeah
[12:43] <llamakc> but you can easily just edit that line. its one line to change
[12:43] <zazeem> does beatrix have synaptic package installer?
[12:43] <Crane> Thats what I thought too, just wanted to get other opinions
[12:43] <zazeem>  does beatrix have synaptic package installer?
[12:43] <jpwain> Can Beatrix be installed without X/Gnome is the question
[12:44] <Crane> Don't know
[12:44] <zazeem> who cares its good :P
[12:44] <llamakc> Stew2: I see the riva128.o module in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers
[12:44] <Stew2> Failed to load module riva128. Module does not exist (EE)
[12:44] <Crane> Seem like you could
[12:44] <Crane> then remove gnome
[12:44] <Stew2> llamakc well, riva128.o is there.
[12:44] <llamakc> Stew2: ls /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers | grep riva
[12:45] <llamakc> post lspci -v to #flood
[12:45] <zazeem> mepis  is awesome. try it omg
[12:45] <llamakc> Stew2: the nv driver failed too?
[12:45] <Crane> mepis crashed hard on quake3
[12:46] <Stew2> llamakc Wish I could. Since this hoary ISO crapped out I've just two shells running.
[12:46] <zazeem> what about enemy territory?????
[12:46] <zazeem> runs on new q3 engine
[12:46] <Stew2> llamakc I guess. It keeps saying it needs the riva128 driver and it can't find it.
[12:46] <Stew2> llamakc Is there a way to downgrade to warty?
[12:46] <llamakc> yep
[12:46] <Stew2> llamakc I don't have a disk.
[12:46] <zazeem> ubuntu crashes q3 and et :/
[12:46] <Crane> don't know about that I gave up trying
[12:46] <zazeem> and rtcw
[12:46] <Crane> ubuntu run q3 great
[12:47] <zazeem> wtf wish it did for me
[12:47] <zazeem> whats ur card?>
[12:47] <zazeem> nvidia fx 5200?
[12:47] <Crane> yep
[12:47] <Stew2> llamakc I'm throwing this Hoary ISO disk in the trash.
[12:47] <zazeem> lol same
[12:47] <Crane> OS: Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-4-386 | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) @ 1662.752 MHz | MemTotal: 906736 kB | Audio:  | Video:  | (eth0) Data Sent: 284963857 (271.7 MiB) | (eth0) Data Recivied:<PHONE_NUMBER> (2.3 GiB)
[12:47] <Crane> | Uptime: days | Load Average (15 Mins.): 0%
[12:47] <llamakc> don't you need to comment out GLcore and dri in the Load section?
[12:47] <Crane> dnag didn't show it
[12:47] <Crane> yep
[12:47] <Crane> I play quake3 every night
[12:48] <llamakc> Stew2: do this lspci -v | grep NV
[12:48] <zazeem> lol
[12:48] <Crane> some enemy territory and urban terror
[12:48] <zazeem> crane try enemy territory
[12:48] <zazeem> its free kicks super ass
[12:48] <zazeem> like q3 but better imo
[12:48] <Crane> LOL
[12:48] <zazeem> ww2 action :)
[12:48] <zazeem> lol
[12:48] <Crane> It's good just a little slower
[12:48] <Crane> slower game play
[12:49] <zazeem> i like it sooo much
[12:49] <Gunlance> Hello All
[12:49] <Stew2> llamakc Successfully deposited hoary disk where it belongs: In the trash.
[12:49] <zazeem> crane
[12:49] <zazeem> didu try et on ubuntu?
[12:49] <Crane> what kind of errors doyou get from quake3
[12:49] <Crane> yes?
[12:49] <Crane> zazeem, yes
[12:49] <zazeem> i get umm
[12:49] <zazeem> hold on
[12:50] <llamakc> Stew2 gave up
[12:50] <zazeem> crane, http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread30981-1.html
[12:50] <jpwain> llamakc: So I should do "
[12:51] <zazeem> run as root same prob LOL
[12:51] <jpwain> apt-get install openssh-server
[12:51] <zazeem> i think
[12:51] <zazeem> how would u run et as root?
[12:51] <zazeem> sudo et?
[12:51] <llamakc> jpwain: yep
[12:51] <jpwain> Ok
[12:53] <hybrid> hello
[12:54] <mebaran151> anybody know a good Evolution replacement
[12:54] <hybrid> does anyone know of a good rss reader for ubuntu
[12:54] <mebaran151> I am on AMD64 and Evolution is sort of dead
[12:54] <bob2> mebaran151: there isn't one
[12:54] <bob2> mebaran151: if it's broken, file a bug
[12:54] <mebaran151> it cant handle its floats
[12:54] <mebaran151> the bug has been filed
[12:55] <mebaran151> it is a pretty awful bug
[12:55] <hybrid> mebaran151: mozilla thunderbird
[12:55] <mebaran151> when you start it up, it automatically generates a floats an exception
[12:55] <mebaran151> I need a contact manager
[12:55] <mebaran151> I dont really care about integration
[12:55] <eruin> evolution is just a tad too monolithic for my taste
[12:55] <eruin> thunderbird has an address book atleast
[12:55] <mebaran151> except I dont want it to rely on qt
[12:55] <mebaran151> KDE has a fine suite
[12:55] <hybrid> eruin: yea it is real nice
[12:55] <mebaran151> but it is too huge
[12:56] <eruin> I might just be shot for this, but kde is too windowsish for me
[12:56] <mebaran151> I dont want the whole of the kde dependencies
[12:56] <mebaran151> KDE is too big; I like XFCE
[12:56] <mebaran151> it is gnome but tiny
[12:56] <mebaran151> I like tiny
[12:56] <hybrid> lol
[12:56] <eruin> xfce is juuust too smallish for me
[12:57] <eruin> gnome is a biiiiiit too big
[12:57] <hybrid> lmao
[12:57] <TheCan> i find xfce not faster than gnome
[12:57] <eruin> so I use gnome :)
[12:57] <llamakc> jpwain: server working now?
[12:57] <eruin> I find myself using nautilus when in xfce anyway
[12:57] <eruin> since the xfce filemanger is horrid
[12:57] <mebaran151> it isnt so bad
[12:57] <eruin> manager*
[12:57] <mebaran151> it does what I need it to do
[12:57] <TheCan> rox works fine in xfce i suppose
[12:57] <mebaran151> I tend to use xterm
[12:57] <mebaran151> anyway
[12:57] <eruin> it's like your typical kde app
[12:57] <eruin> buttons ALL OVER
[12:58] <mebaran151> for all that sort of thing
[12:58] <eruin> gnome w/xfwm h ere
[12:58] <eruin> and aterm
[12:58] <eruin> :-)
[12:58] <lance_> jwain: whats the good word?
[12:58] <jpwain> llamakc: Yes! It's working. My local machine has the wrong RSA key cached now though
[12:59] <llamakc> heh, delete it and you are good to go
[12:59] <llamakc> now start using ssh-keys!
[12:59] <jpwain> Just delete it from ~/.ssh/known_hosts ?
[12:59] <llamakc> that particular line, yep.
[12:59] <snowblink> mebaran151: mutt?
[12:59] <hybrid> is hoary hedgehog availiable for ppc yet
[12:59] <zazeem> how do u get hoary is it just a upgrade?
[01:00] <jpwain> llamakc: Sweet! It's working. What is ssh-keys ?
[01:00] <llamakc> lemme get you a link
[01:00] <zazeem> :D
[01:00] <llamakc> http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck/ssh/
[01:00] <TheCan> i am using some package from hoary. is there some way to get back to the warthy version of it?
[01:00] <TheCan> so to say, downgrade?
[01:00] <hybrid> zazeem: ?
[01:00] <llamakc> i connect from my desktop to my server with keys lanside only
[01:00] <jpwain> Hmm
[01:00] <zazeem> ?
[01:01] <llamakc> so when i ssh from desktop to server with ssh server, the key does authentication and i don't got to type no stinkin pw
[01:01] <snowblink> jpwain: then onto ssh-agent
[01:02] <jpwain> llamakc: Pretty much the only thing I'll be using this Ubuntu box for is an SSH tunnel... so with ssh-keys I could just start something like [ssh -D 8888 hostname.com]  and boom, it'll go without me needing to enter a password?
[01:02] <jpwain> ahhh
[01:02] <llamakc> that is possible, yep
[01:02] <link> hey guys
[01:02] <llamakc> you put your id_dsa.pub appended to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[01:02] <jpwain> I see
[01:03] <llamakc> makes scp'ing files easy peasy
[01:03] <Crane> hello
[01:03] <link> does anyone know what the libvga deb package is offhand
[01:03] <link> aptitude under libraries
[01:03] <link> i looked and couldnt find it there
[01:04] <jpwain> snowblink: I see there's an app for OS X (which I'm using here) called SSH Agent that appears to manage ssh-keys and such. Is that what you meant?
[01:04] <link> i dont really like that program, where would i go to find such things as these libraries
[01:05] <jpwain> Also how do I change the runlevel in ubuntu so X doesn't start?
[01:05] <Dreamer3> jpwain: have you tried the forms?
[01:05] <Dreamer3> forums?
[01:05] <jpwain> Looking now
[01:05] <snowblink> jpwain: dunno on mac os x
[01:06] <link> where would i go to find libraries to download
[01:06] <link> i know this is such a noob question but damn
[01:06] <Dreamer3> link: why do you need this libvga?
[01:06] <link> =o) fer a game
[01:06] <link> quake one to be exact
[01:07] <dud> isnt that libsvga?
[01:07] <link> it says /fuhquake.svga: error while loading shared libraries: libvga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:08] <link> yeah i guess os
[01:08] <link> so
[01:08] <llamakc> well i dunno if ubuntu has a web front for package content searching or if synaptic does it
[01:08] <Gunlance> I was just wondering..is there like an automatic updater for Ubuntu? Because I looked on the site and didn't really see a place to dl updates.
[01:08] <llamakc> but debian has package searching online
[01:09] <llamakc> and the package is svgalib1
[01:09] <link> ahhh yeah the debian site duh. should have thought of that
[01:09] <link> cool
[01:09] <seth_ubuntu> hey
[01:10] <LinuxJones> Gunlance, in Hoary there is one, then there is always apt-get + cron
[01:10] <dud> you could use apt-cache search string
[01:10] <seth_ubuntu> Has anyone had any luck playing shn "music files" with ubuntu
[01:11] <Dreamer3> is
[01:11] <Gunlance> Yeah..this machine is to old to run hoary all that well and this is my second day with a Linux OS lol so i have no idea what you mean by "apt-get + cron" that like a command for the terminal
[01:11] <JoaoMarcus> Is config_net_radio enabled always disabled in ubuntu kernels?
[01:11] <LinuxJones> Gunlance, 1 sec I will get you a link
[01:11] <Gunlance> (I am on i386 Warty 4.10 install)
[01:11] <JoaoMarcus> ops
[01:11] <JoaoMarcus> enabled always disabled -> always disalbed
[01:12] <raydogg> does k3b require kde ?
[01:12] <Riddell> raydogg: no, only kdelibs
[01:12] <raydogg> cool
[01:12] <jpwain> 22/tcp   open     ssh
[01:12] <jpwain> 81/tcp   filtered hosts2-ns
[01:12] <jpwain> 3128/tcp filtered squid-http
[01:12] <raydogg> is that what most ubuntu users would use ?
[01:12] <jpwain> 3141/tcp filtered vmodem
[01:12] <jpwain> 6969/tcp filtered acmsoda
[01:12] <thenuke> Gunlance: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/  great guide for newbies and others
[01:12] <JoaoMarcus> I guess I will have to get the whole kernel source just to compile CONFIG_NET_RADIO into it
[01:13] <raydogg> Riddell, is that what most ubuntu users use ?
[01:13] <link> yeah i found it
[01:13] <LinuxJones> Gunlance, >> http://ubuntuguide.org/#autoupdate << you should read the whole guide BTW lots of great stuff :)
[01:13] <Riddell> raydogg: seems to be
[01:13] <thenuke> Gunlance: there is also manua / automagic updating in the first sections
[01:13] <raydogg> k
[01:13] <link> in aptitude under libraries libsvga1
[01:14] <thenuke> Gunlance: you can do that manual updating also within the gui, look for synaptic somewhere in the menus
[01:14] <Dreamer3> anyone here a former gentoo user?
[01:14] <Gunlance> You talking about the unofficial guide 4.10? Or is there one that came with the OS somewhere
[01:15] <hybrid> can you apt-get to mono or dotgnu?
[01:15] <kbrooks> How do I configure apache
[01:15] <thenuke> http://www.ubuntuguide.org  states, Unofficial Ubuntu 4.10 Starter Guide
[01:16] <thenuke> kbrooks: apache should have good documents with it
[01:16] <llamakc> hybrid: you can apt-cache search for it
[01:16] <JoaoMarcus> DId anyone here have wireless enabled in warty?
[01:18] <pvh> Is dexconf broken?
[01:21] <Xirdneh> anyone knows where i can find zlib1g <IP_ADDRESS>-3, cant find it! damn
[01:22] <link> ok now its askin me fer libz.so
[01:22] <mebaran151> Dreamer3: I am
[01:22] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: happier?
[01:22] <mebaran151> Uh
[01:22] <mebaran151> I never quite got Gentoo to work right
[01:22] <mebaran151> Ubuntu
[01:23] <mebaran151> had a different set of problems
[01:23] <Dreamer3> well, how's ubuntu...?
[01:23] <mebaran151> Gentoo was a bit too hardcore
[01:23] <toresbe> Gentoo isn't hardcore
[01:23] <toresbe> it's just... stupid
[01:23] <mebaran151> Ubuntu is like Debian except with a bit more cohessiveness
[01:23] <mebaran151> Gentoo is hardcore too me
[01:23] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: *nods*
[01:23] <Dreamer3> toresbe: depends on what you want to learn :) it _taught_ me a lot
[01:23] <toresbe> true, that (The debian thing)
[01:23] <toresbe> Dreamer3: Pff.
[01:23] <mebaran151> because you have to do everything
[01:24] <Dreamer3> toresbe: i finally go tired of the endless download/compile/download routine though
[01:24] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: i'd so LFS once if i ever had the time :)
[01:24] <mebaran151> Dreamer3: I learned alot too
[01:24] <toresbe> Dreamer3: I doubt that... but I don't have time right now ;)
[01:24] <mebaran151> yeah
[01:24] <mebaran151> Gentoo was a bit to intermediate
[01:24] <mebaran151> if I wanted to compile anything
[01:24] <mebaran151> I might as well use LFS
[01:24] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: oh come on, gentoo is NOT LFS :)
[01:24] <mebaran151> it isnt
[01:24] <link> do you think its refering to libzvt2.0-0
[01:25] <mebaran151> it is just very time consuming
[01:25] <mebaran151> LFS is very very very hardcore
[01:25] <mebaran151> Gentoo was my first distro
[01:25] <mebaran151> which was a stupid way to start
[01:25] <mebaran151> which might be why it seems hardcore to me
[01:25] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: gentoo was the first distro i stuck with more than 2 weeks :)
[01:25] <mebaran151> heheh
[01:25] <mebaran151> Dreamer3: only because that was the compile time :)
[01:25] <Dreamer3> but i came in with a lot of windows sys admin experience and a lot of bad experience with Redhat and others
[01:26] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: nah, took 2 or 3 days (going slow) to get it all setup to my liking
[01:26] <mebaran151> Dreamer3: yeah
[01:26] <PuGz> i just updated to the latest version of alsa-base and alsa-utils... where has the alsaconf script gone?
[01:26] <mebaran151> it isnt that long true
[01:26] <PuGz> my sound does not work corrently
[01:26] <mebaran151> but I ended up stabilizing on Debian
[01:26] <mebaran151> Really Debian
[01:27] <mebaran151> the Debian that everyone said was incredibly hard to install
[01:27] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: what a joke
[01:27] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: i don't know of anything easier to install than Debian
[01:27] <mebaran151> yeah
[01:27] <mebaran151> I know
[01:27] <Dreamer3> mebaran151: provided you can do partitioning and stuff
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: that's really a hangup from the days of old
[01:27] <pvh> mebaran151: a live cd
[01:27] <mebaran151> yeah
[01:27] <pvh> mebaran151: installation is a physical process. :)
[01:27] <mebaran151> I dont know what they were talking about
[01:27] <mebaran151> I had no trouble
[01:28] <pvh> Why might my ncurses programs look like they're printing to the wrong terminal type?
[01:28] <mebaran151> I am wondering why all my wxwidgets programs still rely on the old wxwidgets
[01:28] <mebaran151> it is so annoying
[01:29] <mebaran151> I want the nice GTK 2.0, gtk 1.2 was such ugly
[01:29] <hybrid> i installed ubuntu b/c it was the quickest thing i could get on ppc
[01:29] <hybrid> and i like it
[01:29] <mebaran151> Ubuntu is nice
[01:29] <mebaran151> I also like the fact
[01:29] <mebaran151> that if I ever want to get involved
[01:29] <dbt`veritas> hybrid: are you on a pb?
[01:29] <mebaran151> they have small teams
[01:30] <hybrid> dbt`veritas: no an ibook
[01:30] <mebaran151> but MacOS is so pretty ;)
[01:30] <mebaran151> I like the MacOS
[01:30] <mebaran151> it is looks nice
[01:30] <hybrid> NO WAY
[01:30] <mebaran151> it does
[01:30] <mebaran151> it looks really nice
[01:30] <mebaran151> everything vectorized
[01:30] <mebaran151> but I have never really used it
[01:31] <davix> how can i change my ubuntu kernel?
[01:31] <mebaran151> I am on PC
[01:31] <mebaran151> davix: install a new one
[01:31] <hybrid> mebaran: loox are decieving it has like a limited unix enviroment
[01:31] <mebaran151> well I never got in the deep recesses
[01:31] <davix> mebaran151, ok, and what about viewing my kernel error log?
[01:31] <timlinux> Another thing I wanted to know is what package to install to get skype 1.0.x to work - I get this error on start:aps02ts@ubuntu:~ $ skype
[01:31] <timlinux> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:32] <mebaran151> davix: all the logs in /var/log
[01:32] <snoopdogg> i need help?
[01:32] <mebaran151> named pretty easily
[01:32] <mebaran151> to figure out
[01:32] <mebaran151> but also
[01:32] <hybrid> mebaran: i wanted to learn unix so i got os x but it didnt teach me much so thats why i am at ubuntu
[01:32] <mebaran151> you can run dmesg for boot mesgs
[01:32] <snowblink> timlinux: did you download the static version?
[01:32] <hypa7ia> hybrid: that's exactly what i did too :-)
[01:33] <timlinux> snowblink not I followed hints on ubuntu forum - using alien to convert rpm to deb
[01:33] <hybrid> nd i put ubuntu on here b/c my said i wasnt elite enuff to
[01:33] <hybrid> hypa7ia: kewl
[01:33] <snoopdogg> i need help?
[01:33] <hybrid> ...
[01:33] <davix> what do these lines say: Feb  1 02:07:22 Lenna kernel: acpi: Unknown symbol acpi_processor_unregister_performance
[01:33] <davix> Feb  1 02:07:22 Lenna kernel: acpi: Unknown symbol acpi_processor_register_performance
[01:33] <davix> ?
[01:33] <snowblink> timlinux: follow the ubuntuguide (but get the newer skype)
[01:34] <LinuxJones> timlinux, that's some xscreensaver library
[01:34] <Gunlance> ok wow that was fun...so i followed the guide and stuff but how does it autoupdate?
[01:34] <timlinux> snowblink, what is the url for that? I thought I was following ubuntu guide when I did it first time :-(
[01:34] <timlinux> LinuxJones, oh? hrmm...
[01:35] <snowblink> timlinux: see topic
[01:35] <mebaran151> just use the skype tarball
[01:35] <mebaran151> it is more generic
[01:35] <timlinux> heh ok sorry missed htat
[01:35] <mebaran151> and you can take it static if you like
[01:35] <mebaran151> but I cant use it anymore
[01:35] <mebaran151> on AMD64
[01:35] <mebaran151> in a pure AMD64 environment
[01:35] <timlinux> ok will do
[01:35] <Jezechelle> can anyone point me in the direction of an fstab tutorial?
[01:35] <mebaran151> man fstab
[01:35] <davix> Feb  1 02:07:22 Lenna kernel: acpi: Unknown symbol acpi_processor_register_performance?
[01:36] <mebaran151> davix: I get those, too.  I am no expert, but I think that it is not a big deal, just the kernel cant load that command to the ACPI
[01:36] <Gwildor> hello?
[01:36] <mebaran151> kind of like the unsupported feature list so it can keep track
[01:36] <ivan> some one knows how can i see the ssh connection to my computer...and info about this?
[01:37] <Gwildor> i am looking for the absolute lightest .avi player
[01:37] <ivan> connections
[01:37] <davix> mebaran151, what does it mean, that i have no acpi or that its malfunctioning?
[01:38] <jasonf> whenever I load my ubuntu, it takes about 15 seconds for grub to come up (it says "grub, loading stage 2" and stays there for 15 seconds before I get a menu)
[01:38] <jasonf> any ideas on how to speed it up?
[01:38] <jerM`needclan> (18:18:38) (jerM`needclan) hey
[01:38] <jerM`needclan> (18:18:48) (jerM`needclan) i just burned the iso and loaded up emachine
[01:38] <jerM`needclan> (18:18:57) (jerM`needclan) i couldnt get comp to boot with so cd
[01:38] <jerM`needclan> (18:19:07) (jerM`needclan) so i put in knoppix cd and its loading u now
[01:38] <jerM`needclan> (18:19:27) (jerM`needclan) when i get on knoppix, i doubt if i put in the ubuntu cd in, it would auto-detect it and install :/
[01:39] <jerM`needclan> (18:19:31) (jerM`needclan) what should i do
[01:39] <jasonf> fl00d
[01:39] <jerM`needclan> no, didnt want to retype
[01:39] <jasonf> that's still 6 lines with no break.
[01:39] <Gwildor> same thing
[01:39] <jerM`needclan> my ba then
[01:39] <dbt`veritas> jerM: you own
[01:39] <jerM`needclan> i burned upuntu
[01:39] <jerM`needclan> and need to know how to get it to install on Knoppix
[01:40] <pvh> Are the ATI drivers that come with Ubuntu hoary working?
[01:40] <Gwildor> umm, that really doesnt make sence
[01:40] <Dreamer3> jerM`needclan: why won't the ubuntu cd boot?
[01:40] <PuGz> why doesnt alsaconf come with the latest version of alsa-utils? how am i supposed to set up my alsa?
[01:40] <Dreamer3> PuGz: dunno, try looking at changelogs?
[01:41] <jerM`needclan> Dreamer3: cause i have to use a knoppix CD to boot to get onto anything :(
[01:41] <Dreamer3> jerM`needclan: and why doesn't the ubuntu cd boot?
[01:41] <Gwildor> ubuntu will install OVER knoppix, actually, it will remove everything related to knoppix, unless you left yourself enuff room
[01:41] <jerM`needclan> when i turn ont he other comp it looks for Floppy or CD and if neither are the knoppix boot, it doesnt do anything until Press Any Key
[01:41] <jerM`needclan> iono
[01:41] <Dreamer3> jerM`needclan: then you burned a bad ubunut cd...
[01:41] <jerM`needclan> let me restart cause it being gay and not opening cdrom right now lol
[01:41] <Gwildor> i am looking for the absolute lightest .avi player
[01:42] <jerM`needclan> so i cant get ubuntu cd in at all LOL
[01:42] <Dreamer3> jerM`needclan: or your cdrom is crap
[01:42] <jerM`needclan> brb
[01:42] <PuGz> Dreamer3, cheers
[01:43] <lyy> i'm logged in as root, but want to read a mozilla profile from another user's profile. How do i do this?
[01:43] <Dreamer3> lyy: ? that's kinda vague
[01:43] <piratePenguin> how do I get drivers for my lexmark p707 printer? Its not listed on http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi :s
[01:44] <Dreamer3> or maybe it's too specfic... *head spins*
[01:44] <hypa7ia> lyy: ln /root/.mozilla /home/<user>/.mozilla might work
[01:44] <lyy> Dreamer3: hmm
[01:44] <jerM`needclan> why are you talking in 3rd person :-/
[01:44] <Dreamer3> hypa7ia: thanks
[01:44] <lyy> Dreamer3: no, thta's not what i dead in mind
[01:44] <jerM`needclan> lol
[01:45] <lyy> Dreamer3: want to go about it in a fashion such thta i become that user in a way
[01:45] <Dreamer3> lyy: just be that user and quit using root to run mozilla
[01:45] <Dreamer3> lyy: that's bad
[01:45] <lyy> Dreamer3: i guess you don't know
[01:46] <lyy> 16:41  * Dreamer3 laughs
[01:46] <Dreamer3> if i didn't i wouldn't tell until i understdoo that was a good idea what you're doing
[01:46] <rellik> arg....  when I plug my ipod into the computer why doesn't it do anything?  it used to put the device /dev/sda and put stuff into syslog..  now it doesn't seem to do anything :(
[01:46] <jasonf> whenever I load my ubuntu, it takes about 15 seconds for grub to come up (it says "grub, loading stage 1.5" and stays there for 15 seconds before I get a menu) -- any idea on how to speed it up?
[01:46] <snowblink> rellik: do you have all the modules loaded?
[01:46] <Dreamer3> jasonf: weird
[01:47] <rellik> snowblink, far as I know..  I haven't changed anything I think since it used to work
[01:47] <davix> what good mp3 player can i install to ubuntu?
[01:47] <Rocha> davix, ubuntu already has rhythmbox
[01:48] <Rocha> Very good music player
[01:48] <davix> it dosent support mp3s
[01:48] <JeRM> goddamnit
[01:48] <JeRM> emachine is being gay now
[01:48] <Rocha> davix, yes it does
[01:48] <JeRM> wont let me open CDrom when booted
[01:48] <davix> why do i get this error whenever i load the synaptic package manager: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)?
[01:48] <Rocha> davix, let me help you...
[01:48] <davix> please do Rocha
[01:48] <davix> i would appriciate it much :)
[01:49] <Rocha> davix, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[01:49] <Rocha> bookmark that website please
[01:49] <JeRM> i need a closepin to manually open my cdrom lol
[01:49] <Rocha> Everytime you have any question, search that site.
[01:49] <goldfish> I have installed ubuntu recently and when it boots up it is just freezing at the cream screen, no logon appears or anything, I can boot into recover mode but not full mode, I am completely new to linux and I have no idea what to do.
[01:49] <davix> Rocha, you were sending me to rtfm the nice way, werent you?
[01:49] <Rocha> davix, nop
[01:49] <hypa7ia> goldfish: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[01:50] <jirwin> hello
[01:50] <davix> Rocha, :)
[01:50] <snowblink> rellik: try restarting hotplug
[01:50] <Rocha> davix, just bookmark it because most of your questions are answered there.
[01:50] <goldfish> hypa7ia: nvidia geforce 5550 128 mb
[01:50] <jirwin> I was wondering how I could change, or even better update firefox to version 1.0?
[01:50] <Rocha> davix, use synaptic to install libmad
[01:50] <jirwin> I couldn't get it to quite work with synaptic
[01:50] <goldfish> I ran the live cd and that worked fine.
[01:50] <Rocha> davix, the codecs for mp3
[01:50] <Rocha> you can't play mp3 in ubuntu because it's a proprietary sound format
[01:50] <mebaran151> why is mad better than mgp123
[01:51] <Rocha> davix, add the universe, and multiverse repositories too
[01:51] <davix> Rocha, synaptic gives me this error: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory). i think it started when i checked the universe boxes
[01:52] <Rocha> Hmmm, strange
[01:52] <snowblink> davix: sudo apt-get update
[01:52] <Rocha> davix, reload the package list
[01:52] <hypa7ia> goldfish: the warty livecd and install cd's are completely different.  what stage of the boot process does it stop at?
[01:52] <Rocha> davix, that option is on the menu bar somewhere i think
[01:52] <Rocha> davix, "reload package list"
[01:52] <davix> i did it from terminal
[01:53] <davix> like snow said
[01:53] <goldfish> hypa7ia: ah k, well everything boots up fine, no errors, then the cream screen pops up, and it freezes there, the ubuntu logo or nothing pops up.
[01:53] <davix> its working
[01:53] <jirwin> how can I update firefox to 1.0?
[01:53] <stuNNed> jirwin: use *unstable* backports, i don't recommend it.
[01:53] <rellik> snowblink, no luck (I'
[01:54] <rellik> snowblink, no luck (I've even rebooted the dang machine)
[01:54] <hypa7ia> goldfish: afraid i can't help you with that :-/
[01:54] <goldfish> hypa7ia: np, cheers
[01:54] <goldfish> guess i'll just smash up my machine
[01:54] <jirwin> stuNNed, can I change my default browser than?
[01:55] <snowblink> rellik: is it definitely not mounting? Does the iPod say disconnect OK straight away?
[01:55] <jirwin> stuNNed, I found preferred applications under desktop prefs, but that didn't have any effect
[01:55] <stuNNed> jirwin: sure, i think epiphany is avail, which is nice, or mozilla greater
[01:56] <rellik> snowblink, it isn't even close to mounting...  hotplug isn't even making a dev (/dev/sda) for it..  and the ipod screen never shows that it has connected to a computer..
[01:56] <jirwin> but you wouldn't even recommend downloading the latest version of firefox, and running it that way?
[01:56] <davix> Rocha, i have to be stupied, i swear. i just install libmad (actually reinstalled, just in case) and yet the music player says it lacks plugins to play mp3s
[01:56] <shock> actually i am running a complete hoary system *g*
[01:57] <shock> am happy with it... minor glitches are to be expec ted and do happen, though
[01:57] <shock> @jirwin
[01:57] <robodex> hello
[01:57] <shock> hoi
[01:58] <jirwin> shock, ???
[01:58] <robodex> I've got a silly ubuntu/wine-related question... has anyone successfully gotten nero (or CloneCD) to work under wine? =\
[01:58] <hypa7ia> hoo boy i doubt it
[01:58] <robodex> I need something that burns .ccd and .bin files
[01:58] <hypa7ia> oooh
[01:58] <hypa7ia> there is a way to do that
[01:58] <hypa7ia> .cue you mean, right?
[01:58] <robodex> err yeah
[01:59] <robodex> .cue (.bin) and .ccd (.img) files
[01:59] <Rocha> davix, let me check what packages do you need
[01:59] <rellik> robodex, for bin/cue I've always converted to iso...  (yeah it sucks)
[01:59] <robodex> heh, doesn't work for the media I'm burning to
[01:59] <robodex> err
[01:59] <robodex> I worded that wrong
[01:59] <snowblink> rellik: sorry can't help more. I'm using a 2G iPod Firewire.
[01:59] <robodex> just doesn't work :X
[01:59] <rellik> snowblink, k, thanks anyway :)
[02:00] <robodex> converted/burned it fine, but CD didn't work after burning
[02:00] <rellik> robodex, you can convert bin/cue to iso, then use any linux CDR program to write it to CD
[02:00] <rellik> ah
[02:00] <robodex> yeah
[02:00] <hypa7ia> http://he.fi/bchunk/
[02:00] <robodex> it's a playstation game :X
[02:00] <moyogo> er....
[02:00] <moyogo> i'm getting this nasty bug when i swith my mouse to left-handed
[02:00] <hypa7ia> robodex: sudp apt-get install bchunk
[02:00] <davix> tnx Rocha
[02:01] <socomm> You guys know any repo that has xfce 4.2.0?
[02:01] <Rocha> davix, it's "gstreamer-mad" that you need, not just libmad, sorry
[02:01] <Rocha> ubuntu uses gstreamer by default, instead of xine
[02:01] <robodex> socomm: there's a howto on the forum that will install it... it's very helpful, I'm running xfce atm :p
[02:01] <socomm> robodex: Link?
[02:02] <lavigj> hey guys, quick input... I just put reiser on a 250GB harddrive, is it normal for the formatting to take 17GB?
[02:02] <robodex> lemme find it
[02:02] <socomm> robodex: Okay, thanks.
[02:02] <wk1989> hi
[02:02] <wk1989> can anyone here get VLC to play a wmv file?
[02:02] <aethyr> lavigj: you're probably just victim of HDD manufacturer's number-game
[02:02] <goldfish> lavigj: i got a 200 wd drive and the formatting took 14gb
[02:02] <socomm> wk1989: You'll need the win32 codecs.
[02:03] <wk1989> I have the win32 codec
[02:03] <lavigj> aethyr: could be. goldfish ok, I wasn't sure for reiser how much was normal. if this was a windows fs I would not even think twice
[02:03] <pvh> Is there somewhere I can find the list of current bugs in Hoary?
[02:03] <aethyr> i.e. it's 250,000,000,000 bytes, which is really 250,000,000,000/1024 GB
[02:03] <robodex> hmm I guess I'll try binchunk
[02:03] <socomm> pvh: bugzilla
[02:03] <lavigj> aethyr: yeah, I follow what you meant
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> goldfish: 'formtting' ?
[02:03] <wk1989> but there's only audio, no video
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> goldfish: the 200gb drive is not 200gbv
[02:03] <socomm> pvh: bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org
[02:03] <help> hey guys whats a good refresh
[02:03] <robodex> socomm: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12812
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> goldfish: you have been deceived by the hard drive manufacturer
[02:03] <lavigj> aethyr: I could check to be sure, I just wondered if that sounded feasible
[02:04] <help> to set in xconfig
[02:04] <help> its low now i set it low
[02:04] <LinuxJones> help, 70+ vetical refresh is ok
[02:04] <help> how do i set higher??
[02:04] <help> ?
[02:04] <help> k
[02:04] <davix> that is it! i give up
[02:04] <davix> no mp3s on ubuntu for me
[02:04] <davix> :(
[02:04] <socomm> robodex: Thanks, I really appreciate it.
[02:04] <wk1989> socom:
[02:04] <link_> yeah me neither
[02:04] <lavigj> aethyr: actually, fdisk shows it as being<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes. :)
[02:04] <LinuxJones> davix, did you check the www.ubuntuguide.org  site ?
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> davix: sudo apt-get install gstramer0.8-mad
[02:04] <robodex> np
[02:05] <davix> i did
[02:05] <lavigj> aethyr: goldfish - thanks for your input though.
[02:05] <wk1989> i extraced the codec to /usr/lib/win32
[02:05] <wk1989> but it doesn't work
[02:05] <aethyr> lavigj: which means it should be (according to my calculations) 244141 MB, a difference of ~16+ GB
[02:05] <help> linuxjones, this is what i have and my screen looks strange...ection "Monitor"
[02:05] <help> 	Identifier	"SAMTRON"
[02:05] <help> 	HorizSync	43-86
[02:05] <help> 	VertRefresh	70-85
[02:05] <help> 	Option		"DPMS"
[02:05] <froust> Has anyone sucessfully got the ati drivers working in amd64/hoary?
[02:05] <lavigj> aethyr: ah, inded you are right. :: shrugs :: it is still a massive drive. good to know that reiser is not that inefficient
[02:05] <mike_douglas> Any been able to ghost Ubuntu with Norton Ghost? I tried to restore an image and Grub won't start
[02:06] <help> linuxjones?
[02:06] <socomm> help: You should check what refresh rates your monitor supports.
[02:06] <help> how
[02:06] <LinuxJones> help, use www.pastebin.ca then post the link :) That seems to look ok
[02:06] <help> ?
[02:06] <help> no it looks horible lines running up
[02:06] <stpere> hi
[02:06] <help> was at like 160 lol
[02:06] <help> how do i see what my monitor supports
[02:06] <help> ?
[02:06] <stpere> is there any custom duties on the free CD shipping?
[02:07] <lavigj> aethyr: actually, it woudl be 233GB, which is what df-h is showing
[02:07] <lavigj> aethyr: thanks though
[02:07] <lavigj> aethyr: you reminded me of the right place to check
[02:07] <LinuxJones> help, you can check the maual or google and do a search
[02:07] <help> ?
[02:07] <help> manual?
[02:07] <davix> oh ok
[02:07] <LinuxJones> help, yeah for your monitor
[02:08] <help> how do i reset to defauly cfg?
[02:08] <davix> now i read the f*cking manual
[02:08] <davix> and i did what it said
[02:08] <help> whats your s set to linux?
[02:08] <aethyr> lavigj: sorry, my math = suck ;)   you get the idea
[02:08] <link_> hey guys do you know what libz.so
[02:08] <mebaran151> vlc doesnt use the w32codecs
[02:08] <mebaran151> you have to use xine or something
[02:08] <lavigj> aethyr: actually your math was right on. when you take it one more /1024 for the GB you get 232.88
[02:08] <LinuxJones> help, did you edit the file manually ?
[02:08] <lavigj> aethyr: thanks for reminding me of that though
[02:08] <help> ya
[02:09] <lavigj> aethyr: you were righ ton what the deal was
[02:09] <mebaran151> can I convert ext3 to reiserfs safely
[02:09] <mebaran151> or reiser4
[02:09] <help> can i just reinstall nvidia drivers?
[02:09] <help> will that reset it?
[02:09] <link_> is it comes up when i try and run fahquake
[02:09] <link_> some library somewhere not found
[02:09] <LinuxJones> help, look in the /etc/X11/ directory and see if there is an XF86Config-4 file with a ~ at the end that's hopefully a backup
[02:10] <davix> great thing about linux, now it's playing, but i can't hear any sounds at all, even crackling would do for me.
[02:10] <help> k lol
[02:10] <stpere> someone know?
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> davix: run alsamixer
[02:10] <help> ya theres on e that says backup
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> ensure the main and pcm are nto muted
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> using 'm'
[02:10] <help> how do i apply?
[02:11] <robodex> anyway, another question: are there any other window managers that work well with ubuntu?
[02:11] <LinuxJones> help, so the file is there ?
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> robodex: any you like
[02:11] <robodex> I'm trying to find the best one for me... so far it's xfce
[02:11] <help> yes it doesnt hace a ~
[02:11] <mebaran151> robodex: probably blackbox and icewm
[02:11] <help> but says backup at end
[02:11] <mebaran151> or anything
[02:11] <mebaran151> oh help
[02:11] <socomm> link_: zlib
[02:11] <mebaran151> just change it
[02:11] <robodex> I think I'm going to try icewm
[02:11] <help> ?
[02:11] <mebaran151> I didnt like icewm
[02:11] <help> what
[02:11] <mebaran151> as much as I like XFCE
[02:11] <socomm> link_: Look it up on your favorite search engine.
[02:12] <link_> ok thats zlibc right
[02:12] <link_> im looking on the debian page
[02:12] <help> how do i apply the default one linuxjones?
[02:12] <LinuxJones> help, ok type mv /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-MyBackup
[02:12] <link_> or zlib1g
[02:12] <socomm> http://www.gzip.org/zlib/
[02:13] <davix> HrdwrBoB, alsa is runing, i think
[02:13] <JeRM> omg i need so much help
[02:13] <robodex> gonna go play playstation games, cya later
[02:13] <JeRM> i have burned ubuntu to cd as iso
[02:13] <socomm> link_: Should be one of those.
[02:13] <JeRM> but ont he computer it has Knoppix
[02:13] <robodex> wow I didn't realize xchat did /amsg accross tabs...
[02:13] <robodex> oh well
[02:13] <robodex> bye
[02:13] <JeRM> and all of a sudden that computer is being gay and wont oen cdrom, so i cant get the ubuntu CD in it since i have to use the cdrom to boot into knoppix
[02:14] <LinuxJones> help, then do type mv /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-backup (or whatever the backup file name actually is) /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[02:18] <rellik> I'm having problems with hotplug/usb/kernel/??? this is from my dmesg: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ylrNuc50.html...  2 of my USB things work but the 3rd (ipod) doesn't ...  any ideas as to what to do?
[02:18] <hypa7ia> JeRM: try a paperclip
[02:18] <yaarg> hi everyone
[02:18] <davix> HrdwrBoB, how do i know if alsa is runing?
[02:19] <rapha> Yo!
[02:19] <rapha> If I want to try out Hoary, which CD image should I download?
[02:19] <zazeem> linuxjones, that just killed ubuntu :'(
[02:19] <zazeem> im in win now
[02:19] <zazeem> now i can only be in console :(
[02:20] <LinuxJones> zazeem, what ?
[02:20] <zazeem> how do i load the x86free-4 cfg? or wtvr
[02:20] <zazeem> that cmd u gave me killed it
[02:20] <zazeem> i cant login to any colored stuff just in console :(
[02:20] <zazeem> no screens lol
[02:20] <zazeem> ny way to load last one
[02:20] <zazeem> ??
[02:20] <zazeem> or get x86 again
[02:20] <LinuxJones> zazeem, what does ls /etc/X11/XF86Config* output ?
[02:20] <zazeem> or do i have to reinstall?
[02:21] <zazeem> ?
[02:21] <zazeem> umm dunno....?
[02:21] <zazeem> im in windows atm
[02:21] <LinuxJones> zazeem, type it in console
[02:21] <LinuxJones> zazeem, argh
[02:21] <zazeem> k anything else to type?
[02:21] <zazeem> ill write down
[02:21] <zazeem> ls /etc/X11/XF86Config*?
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> davix: if alsamixer works
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> then alsa is fine
[02:21] <zazeem> thats it or outpu to?
[02:22] <rapha> array3 or today's build?
[02:22] <LinuxJones> zazeem, you need to move the /etc/X11/XF86Config-backup file or whatever that name was to XF86Config-4 (the one that was in that directory before you moved anything)
[02:23] <zazeem> i didnt move anything
[02:23] <zazeem> i typed what u said wtvr backup and it died lol
[02:23] <LinuxJones>  zazeem  , then do type mv /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-backup (or whatever the backup file name actually is) /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[02:23] <zazeem> mv?
[02:23] <zazeem> whats that do
[02:23] <zazeem> ?
[02:24] <rapha> hmm
[02:24] <rapha> I'll get the daily build
[02:24] <rapha> G'night everybody!
[02:24] <shock> ok - now to really improve my desktop I need some kewl space-shipy pictures
[02:24] <shock> :P
[02:24] <link_> hey will the fedora 3 rpm work if i tryto install it on ubuntu, its just a library
[02:24] <LinuxJones> zazeem, it's easier to re-install (20 mins) or try to booting back and forth from Linux to Windows to try to fix it (2 hours)
[02:24] <DeanG> I've installed the VNC via synaptics, can someone URL me to server setup directions?
[02:24] <davix> HrdwrBoB, what can cause sound not to work other then hardware problems (rulling that out since with windows my soundcard did good)
[02:24] <HrdwrBoB> link_: what library
[02:24] <zazeem> well ill lose everything
[02:25] <shock> Link ? why would you want to do that?
[02:25] <zazeem> again :'(
[02:25] <zazeem> thats gay
[02:25] <link_> its zlib
[02:25] <zazeem> no way to re get x86
[02:25] <zazeem> ?
[02:25] <LinuxJones> zazeem, if your Linux install is working ok then leave it alone :D
[02:25] <zazeem> apt-get or something?
[02:25] <shock> er ?
[02:25] <LinuxJones> zazeem, do you know your hardware ?
[02:25] <zazeem> ubuntu was till i typed that in
[02:25] <shock> whats the problem?
[02:25] <zazeem> ya
[02:26] <zazeem> dunno ask linux
[02:26] <JeRM> zazeem lol
[02:26] <JeRM> havin linux problems yourself :P
[02:26] <zazeem> i edited my x86 cfg and then typed something linux said in it killed ubuntu lol now i can only use console shit :(
[02:26] <shock> zazeem - are you running xorg?
[02:26] <zazeem> ya lol
[02:26] <zazeem> no
[02:26] <shock> oder xfree
[02:26] <zazeem> xfree86
[02:26] <shock> hmpf
[02:26] <zazeem> ?
[02:26] <shock> try running xfree86config
[02:26] <zazeem> warty
[02:26] <zazeem> how
[02:26] <LinuxJones> zazeem, open the xf86config file in Linux console and read what it says about modifying your xf86config by hand. Then dpkg-reconfigure zserver-xfree86
[02:26] <zazeem> cmd?
[02:27] <pantz_> i am unsucessfully trying to mount a smb share in fstab - anyone able to help me out?
[02:27] <shock> or whatever it might be called
[02:27] <pantz_> here is my line - //gandalf/share /media/share    smbfs   credentials=/home/pantz/.samba,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,umask=002,noauto,users       0 0
[02:27] <LinuxJones> zazeem, err make that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[02:27] <zazeem> open how i am onlyt in csole
[02:27] <zazeem> k
[02:27] <Rocha> davix, mp3 working?
[02:27] <link_> HrdwrBoB: im tring to install zlib
[02:27] <zazeem> ill try that
[02:27] <zenrox> pantz_,  put a space after your dir and semove the peroid
[02:27] <LinuxJones> zazeem, nooo
[02:28] <zazeem> ??
[02:28] <rellik> what's a good hardware channel?
[02:28] <LinuxJones> zazeem, nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 read, write down what it says, follow the commands, then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[02:28] <zenrox> pantz_, like this ->>>
[02:28] <zazeem> theres no way to reinstall xfree/
[02:28] <zazeem> k
[02:28] <snowblink> LinuxJones: man XF86Config-4?
[02:28] <zenrox> pantz_, like this ->>>  //gandalf/share /media/share    smbfs   credentials=/home/pantz/.samba uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,umask=002,noauto,users       0 0
[02:28] <zazeem> ya 4
[02:29] <LinuxJones> snowblink, ??
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> link_: err zlib ==libz
[02:29] <snowblink> LinuxJones: might be easier if he doesn't know how to use a pager
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> link_: zlib1g
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> there you go
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get install zlib1g
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> what is the problem?
[02:29] <LinuxJones> snowblink, actually it's easier if he re-installs 20 mins and back up
[02:30] <HrdwrBoB> why do you need zlib
[02:30] <klaasvaag> hi ppls.. i just inserted my usb-stick, only to find out that after deleting all of the files on it that still 43% of the space is taken up by something misterious... ls -al lists nothing..
[02:30] <JeRM> damnit my computer needs to stop being gay and open cdrm when booted so i can load ubuntu so i can install
[02:30] <HrdwrBoB> it's most likely alreadu installed
[02:30] <JeRM> jesus
[02:30] <link_> to play quake i guess
[02:30] <klaasvaag> any ideas what this could be or how to solve it?
[02:30] <HrdwrBoB> klaasvaag: just reformat  it :)
[02:30] <JeRM> i need a paper clip so i can manually open cdrom if not lol
[02:30] <pantz_> zenrox, thanks i am trying it now ...
[02:30] <HrdwrBoB> klaasvaag: mkfs.vfat
[02:30] <link_> no when i try and run the fuhquake.svga it dont like it
[02:31] <snowblink> LinuxJones: he needs to read more, and break less
[02:31] <klaasvaag> HrdwrBoB: sure about that? i dont wont to completely kill my mp3/usb-stick :P
[02:31] <link_> it says libz.so library not fount
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> klaasvaag: that's all it is anyway
[02:31] <link_> found
[02:31] <LinuxJones> snowblink, we were all there once :D
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> link_: that's not likely to EVER work properly
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> what is fuhwuake
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> .svga probably means svgalib
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> which has been obselete for years
[02:31] <link_> so you can play quake
[02:32] <HrdwrBoB> quake is open sourse
[02:32] <HrdwrBoB> source
[02:32] <pantz_> zenrox, mount /media/share/
[02:32] <pantz_> [mntent] : line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[02:32] <pantz_> mount: can't find /media/share in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:32] <HrdwrBoB> you can get an sdl version
[02:32] <link_> well i got the svgalib and that error message went away
[02:32] <link_> now it wants zlib.so
[02:32] <pantz_> line 10 is - //gandalf/share /media/share smbfs credentials=/home/pantz/.samba uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,umask=002,noauto,users 0 0
[02:32] <zenrox> pantz_,  do a sudo mkdir /media/share
[02:32] <HrdwrBoB> link_: trust me, you don't want that.
[02:32] <pantz_> i didn't see any difference between the line you pasted earlier and mine ...
[02:32] <klaasvaag> HrdwrBoB: it seems to work :) thx
[02:33] <link_> i dont want zlib?
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> no
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> you don't wnat to use svgalibn
[02:33] <pantz_> zenrox, root@faramir:/home/pantz # ls /media/
[02:33] <pantz_> cdrom  cdrom0  editing  fat  floppy  floppy0  share  xp
[02:33] <link_> por que no
[02:33] <link_> ?
[02:33] <link_> why not
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.libsdl.org/projects/quake/
[02:33] <pantz_> zenrox, /media/share exists
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> because it's years and years old
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> it won't work in X
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> it's not 3d accelerated
[02:33] <zenrox> pantz_,  hmmm ok put it back the way you had it
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> and even it does ever work, it'll be slow and terrible
[02:34] <link_> well when i try the gl version i get the same error
[02:34] <pantz_> this is what i have (which to me seems exactly the same as what you pasted earilier) ...
[02:34] <pantz_> /gandalf/share /media/share    smbfs  credentials=/home/pantz/.samba,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,umask=002,noauto,users       0 0
[02:34] <DeanG> I need vncServer setup docs. Any links?
[02:34] <zenrox> - a ,
[02:34] <pantz_> oops missing the // at the start there
[02:34] <pantz_> lol
[02:35] <pantz_> xchat takes the slash as a special character
[02:35] <zenrox> yep
[02:35] <pantz_> hehe
[02:35] <link_> link@mushroomkingdom:/usr/local/games/quake $ sudo ./fuhquake-gl.glx
[02:35] <link_> Password:
[02:35] <link_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:35] <link_> Error: FuhQuake couldn't load the required "libz.so" library.  You must either:
[02:35] <link_> i) (recommended) download the required libraries from www.fuhquake.net, or
[02:35] <link_> ii) specify "-nolibpng" on the cmdline to disable png image features.
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> link_: run ls -l /usr/lib/libz*
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> and paste the output to #flood
[02:36] <pantz_> zenrox, this is the error i get ...
[02:36] <pantz_> root@faramir:/media # mount share
[02:36] <pantz_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //gandalf/share,
[02:36] <pantz_>        missing codepage or other error
[02:36] <pantz_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:36] <pantz_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:36] <link_> libz.so.<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:37] <pantz_> oh shit - dmesg tells me - smbfs: mount_data version<PHONE_NUMBER> is not supported
[02:37] <link_> just this one file and a link to it
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> yes and the link is called libz.so.1 ?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> run sudo ldconfig
[02:37] <link_> maybe i should make a link called libz.so
[02:37] <link_> ?
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> ldconfig should do it for you
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> but yes that will fix it
[02:38] <link_> whats ldconfig?
[02:38] <link_> im such a noob =oP
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> ldconfig configures shared libraries
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> makes links and stuff
[02:39] <link_> whats that apt-get you mention erlyer
[02:39] <link_> earlier
[02:39] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get is a program used to install and manage packages
[02:39] <link_> cuz i was using aptitude to dl packages
[02:39] <link_> ahh
[02:39] <HrdwrBoB> aptitude is a more graphical interface
[02:39] <HrdwrBoB> synaptic is actually graphical
[02:40] <link_> i dont really like it very much
[02:40] <link_> oh ic
[02:40] <link_> through x then right
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> desktop->administration->synatpci package manager
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> er.. synaptic
[02:40] <link_> k im gunna go and figure out how to make a link
[02:41] <link_> its ln right?
[02:41] <HrdwrBoB> link_: try just running sudo ldconfig
[02:41] <HrdwrBoB> ln -s for symbolic link
[02:41] <HrdwrBoB> is what you want
[02:42] <link_> ldconfig did nothing
[02:42] <link_> ill make that link
[02:43] <link_> target first?
[02:43] <link_> ln -s libz.so.1 libz.so?
[02:45] <galder> Hello ubunters
[02:45] <mebaran151> can we prelink libs
[02:45] <mebaran151> in ubuntu
[02:45] <mebaran151> it sounds easy to do and intriguing
[02:45] <mebaran151> and I would like to set hdparm
[02:46] <mebaran151> what would be a safe hdparm command to run at startup
[02:46] <mebaran151> for a SATA Hardrive
[02:46] <mebaran151> that is DMA and 8mb cache
[02:46] <thenuke> mebaran151: umm, test :)
[02:47] <mebaran151> no testing
[02:47] <thenuke> I think you cannot harm your drive or files if you dont use those commands which you are warned about in hdparm --help
[02:47] <mebaran151> I dont need great performance
[02:47] <link_> damn now it wants libpng.so!
[02:47] <thenuke> why no testing?
[02:47] <mebaran151> I just dont have the time
[02:47] <mebaran151> heheh
[02:47] <thenuke> okep :I
[02:47] <link_> one after another taken em down
[02:47] <thenuke> hdparm -d1 makes most difference, it enables dma, if it is not enabled
[02:48] <thenuke> hdparm /dev/hdX tells you if you do not have dma on
[02:49] <eruin> hdparm -d1 doesnt work at all here
[02:49] <eruin> strangely it does when I run gentoo
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> link_: png is in /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0
[02:50] <tritium> eruin, here?  you mean on ubuntu?
[02:53] <JeRM> is their a command to run that will eject CDrom ?
[02:53] <mebaran151> eject
[02:53] <mebaran151> and then name your cdrom
[02:53] <mebaran151> eject hda
[02:53] <mebaran151> for instance
[02:53] <mebaran151> or eject hdb
[02:53] <Xirdneh> does ubuntu support amarok?
[02:54] <jdub> no
[02:54] <macewan> my wife loves that program
[02:54] <jdub> but it's in universe
[02:54] <Xirdneh> wich is a good media player that ubuntu support?
[02:54] <mebaran151> mplayer ;)
[02:54] <thenuke> mplayer
[02:55] <zenrox> gxine
[02:55] <mebaran151> gstreamer really isnt so bad
[02:55] <mebaran151> with the good codecs
[02:55] <mebaran151> I dont notice it being as horrible as peoople
[02:55] <Xirdneh> thnx
[02:55] <mebaran151> maybe I am just lucky
[02:55] <zenrox> mebaran151,  your just luckey
[02:56] <warty> Hello
[02:56] <link_> i got it!
[02:56] <link_> yah!
[02:56] <link_> thanks bro
[02:56] <link_> success!!
[02:56] <toxickore> hello...
[02:56] <link_> hi!
[02:57] <toxickore> what's the command to add a service copied from /etc/init.d/skeleton ????
[02:57] <JeRM> damnit it wont open
[02:57] <link_> sorry got carried away there
[02:57] <link_> =o)
[02:57] <JeRM> goddamnitwindowsXp wont detect any harddisks when installing
[02:57] <JeRM> if i leave XP to boot, and i click install, it will try to instal but then fail and say it cant find any harddisks
[02:57] <warty> I am new on ubuntu and want to know how register for IRC on Ubuntu
[02:57] <link_> got to putem fat
[02:57] <toxickore> what's the command to add a service copied from /etc/init.d/skeleton ????
[02:57] <nightwolf> JeRM, serial ata?
[02:58] <dud> i believe winxp needs the first partition to be recognizable...
[02:58] <warty> I am new on ubuntu and want to know how register for IRC on Ubuntu
[02:58] <JeRM> what you mean wolf?
[02:58] <tritium> toxickore, update-rc.d
[02:58] <pantz_> does anyone here have a samba share mounted in /etc/fstab so i can steal their syntax?
[02:58] <nightwolf> what kind of hard drive
[02:58] <JeRM> have no idea
[02:58] <dud> warty, register how?
[02:58] <JeRM> its old eMachine etower 500is
[02:58] <link_> JeRM are they on fat32
[02:58] <link_> ?
[02:58] <JeRM> thinks its a 4.3gb HD
[02:59] <warty> Like get a password etc,  on windows it signs you up automatically
[02:59] <JeRM> id suppose causei bought this XP back in 2002 and installed it ont he emachine
[02:59] <nightwolf> only thing i can think of is a weird ide controller that would need special drivers, then use the F6 key on xp setup to add them
[02:59] <LinuxJones> warty, /msg nickserv help it will  tell you
[02:59] <dud> good luck running wincrap xp on something like that....
[02:59] <link_> windows dont like em formatted ext
[02:59] <JeRM> now that i put knoppix ontheir i cant get the XP disc to reinstall
[02:59] <nightwolf> ah
[02:59] <tritium> JeRM, did you put linux on the first partition?
[02:59] <JeRM> wahhhhhhhhh
[02:59] <JeRM> i probably did
[03:00] <tritium> are you using grub?
[03:00] <dud> as i said, xp needs the first partition
[03:00] <JeRM> i had bunch of online friends help me install :( it was a bitch to get shit workin
[03:00] <JeRM> using Knoppix-STD
[03:00] <link_> oh yeah thats right stoopid old windows
[03:00] <JeRM> uhm is their anyway to clear my first partition to get XP back on it :/
[03:00] <tritium> JeRM, if you're using grub, you can remap
[03:01] <pantz_> JeRM, mkfs.vfat /dev/hda?
[03:01] <JeRM> what is grub?
[03:01] <tritium> bootloader
[03:01] <pantz_> JeRM, grub is the boot loader
[03:01] <pantz_> decides which operating system to boot to
[03:02] <JeRM> nooo
[03:02] <JeRM> im not :(
[03:02] <JeRM> wheni turn on my comp
[03:02] <JeRM> it loads a nd shit
[03:02] <JeRM> then its like scanning Cdrom for boot
[03:02] <tritium> since windows wants to be on 1st partion, but linux is on it, "map (hd0) (hd1)" and "map (hd1) (hd0)"
[03:02] <JeRM> if not loaded itll then scan floppy
[03:02] <JeRM> i use a CD to boot.
[03:02] <pantz_> JeRM, have you changed your boot order in the BIOS
[03:02] <pantz_> JeRM, put cdrom first ...
[03:02] <JeRM> i dont think im skilled enough to edit bios, so if i did it was by accident
[03:03] <pantz_> well it is honesty not scarey
[03:03] <plagerism> Trying to use gdesklets and the memory monitor is complaining about glibtop?? Any ideas what package offers this??
[03:03] <pantz_> if your machine will not boot from your cd - you have to go into the BIOS
[03:03] <JeRM> well what should i do?
[03:03] <nightwolf> pantz its not boot order, its maybe the hdd is disabled totally
[03:03] <JeRM> id like to put windows back on the old emachine...
[03:03] <pantz_> ok look for the option of 'boot order' and change the order
[03:03] <nightwolf> pantz his xp cd boots, but xp setup cannot find the drive
[03:03] <JeRM> yea
[03:04] <pantz_> change just that - nothing else - then save and quit
[03:04] <JeRM> it says cant find any hard disks
[03:04] <plagerism> JerM you have to remove all the partitions(linux) and then do the setup
[03:04] <pantz_> your machine will reboot and should find the cdrom first
[03:04] <JeRM> my knoppix boot CD works.
[03:04] <JeRM> plagerism: how would i go about removing all the partitions?
[03:04] <pantz_> nightwolf, oh ok
[03:04] <JeRM> (linux) that is
[03:04] <plagerism> JerM boot into knoppix and use fdisk /dev/hda
[03:04] <tritium> can I tell from lspci if I have a controller capable of pci hotplug?
[03:05] <JeRM> aight brb
[03:05] <pantz_> JeRM, as plagerism says ...
[03:05] <JeRM> imma run that cmd
[03:05] <plagerism> JerM this is assuming you did have Linux on this box
[03:05] <JeRM> says unable to open /dev/hda !
[03:05] <pantz_> /dev/hdb?
[03:05] <tritium> I believe I need pci_hotplug to dock/undock from my docking station and have device modules handled properly.
[03:05] <pantz_> /dev/hdc?
[03:06] <pantz_> /dev/hdd?
[03:06] <plagerism> dmesg |grep hd
[03:06] <plagerism> and find your harddrive
[03:06] <JeRM> i had XP on it before Knoppix
[03:06] <JeRM> now its Knoppix
[03:06] <plagerism> Knoppix isnt on it, its a livecd
[03:06] <JeRM> all say unable to open /dev/hda-b-c-d
[03:06] <JeRM> ooooh
[03:07] <JeRM> well plag
[03:07] <JeRM> what should i do :/
[03:07] <plagerism> JerM did dmesg|grep hd show any drives
[03:07] <pantz_> JeRM, have you been messing with the cables plugged into your drives lately?
[03:07] <JeRM> hahano pantz
[03:07] <pantz_> is it a scsi disk?
[03:07] <JeRM> says bash: grap: command not found
[03:07] <pantz_> grEp
[03:07] <rellik> is it possible to downgrade?  can I just 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.7-1-686' ?
[03:08] <plagerism> pything libgtop, any ideas what package provides this functionality??
[03:08] <JeRM> oops
[03:08] <JeRM> hey
[03:08] <JeRM> dmesg|grep hd showed some stuff
[03:08] <plagerism> rellik, I used to do it on Debian all the time.  It would be insane if you couldnt
[03:08] <pantz_> JeRM, paste it ..
[03:09] <JeRM> says alot of stuff is scsi
[03:09] <plagerism> then try fdisk /dev/sda
[03:09] <JeRM> example: hda=scsi hdb=scsi etc...
[03:09] <pantz_> try fdisk /dev/sda
[03:09] <plagerism> sdb etc....
[03:09] <JeRM> says unable to open /dev/sda !
[03:10] <JeRM> hey guys i g2g its 8pm and dads got custody so i gotta head back to his place :(
[03:10] <pantz_> JeRM, try fdisk /dev/sdb and if it doesnt work - cya!
[03:10] <JeRM> damn
[03:10] <JeRM> doesnt work
[03:10] <JeRM> wtf
[03:10] <JeRM> jesus
[03:11] <JeRM> plagerism: whats your AIM screenname
[03:11] <JeRM> for further contact tomorrow
[03:11] <plagerism> I dont use aim
[03:11] <plagerism> And I really am not that smart
[03:11] <pantz_> lol
[03:11] <JeRM> danit
[03:11] <JeRM> what should i dooooooOOOO!
[03:12] <Fazer> What is the root password for Ubuntu's Live CD?
[03:12] <plagerism> Come back in here next time you try and fix it
[03:12] <plagerism> Fazer Ubuntu doesnt have root, get used to sudo
[03:12] <Fazer> plagerism: I did sudu /sbin/shutdown
[03:12] <Fazer> asked for password
[03:12] <Fazer> *sudo
[03:12] <plagerism> use the users passwd
[03:13] <Fazer> What do you mean?
[03:13] <Agrajag> plagerism: livecd
[03:13] <plagerism> Oh yea nevermind
[03:13] <plagerism> lol
[03:13] <plagerism> Again not that smart
[03:13] <BrianPM> Hi. Just installed ubuntu.  I've had a little experience with suse.  After install, my monitor doesn't handle the refresh and such that it defaults to.  Is there any little applet I can run to set the modeline like sax2 in suse?
[03:13] <Fazer> so when I am on the Live CD, how do I shut down?'
[03:14] <plagerism> Fazer are you in a desktop??
[03:14] <Fazer> he's from rogers too!
[03:14] <regeya> BrianPM, you could run the Screen Resolution applet under Computer->System Configuration, or you could (help me out here, is there a better way than this?) edit your XF86Config
[03:15] <BrianPM> I can't load X.
[03:15] <regeya> the Screen Resolution setting would be per-user
[03:15] <BrianPM> I need something I can do from the command line safe mode.
[03:15] <EvolutionR> I've ran alot of trouble lately with the Ubuntu Hoary...anyone here facing any trouble?
[03:15] <regeya> help me out someone; would it behoove BrianPM to do something like dpkg-reconfigure...erm.  /me has a brainfart.
[03:16] <BrianPM> Other than open a text editor and find some alternate way to calculate the modeline on the internet
[03:16] <regeya> I'm just getting over being ill, BrianPM, so my brain has turned to mush.  Bear wiht me...
[03:16] <BrianPM> Or...is there a command line option to startx that will start it in 640x480?
[03:16] <pantz_> does anyone here have access to a samba share that they could test mounting with smbfs for me?
[03:16] <BrianPM> Hehe. Thanks for the help
[03:16] <pantz_> i am running hoary
[03:17] <pantz_> mount -t smbfs //gandalf/share /media/share fails for me
[03:17] <regeya> I think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 may help, BrianPM
[03:17] <EvolutionR> pantz: the Gnome 2.9 ...giving me alot of trouble especially the X11...xorg
[03:18] <regeya> or not...hm.
[03:19] <EvolutionR> the screen resolution wont stay put....meaning to say saved resolution 1074....after 2 ,3 reboots it went itself to  680 something...
[03:19] <EvolutionR> is Kde done with the Hoary thing?
[03:20] <plagerism> yea so you can use Desktop logout and select shutdown
[03:20] <zazeem> how do i enable nvidia cfg?
[03:20] <plagerism> lol
[03:20] <zazeem> and edit xfree86 cfg?
[03:20] <Riddell> EvolutionR: KDE is available in universe, 3.2 in warty, 3.3.2 in hoary
[03:21] <dud> umm, i think i lost my libdvdcss2 after a dist-upgrade on my amd64 hoary....
[03:21] <dud> could that be?
[03:22] <BrianPM> I'm going thru that setup tool, regeya...will let ya know in a few!
[03:22] <madsen> dud: Well, you can just download and install it again...
[03:22] <pantz_> dud, i have libdvdcss2 from woody
[03:22] <hams> when i connect to my vpn, i can't send X stuff back? is there something i need to configure for that?
[03:22] <hams> i even tried xhost +
[03:23] <dud> hmm, i saw something about running /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[03:23] <dud> ill try that
[03:23] <daniels> hams: using SSH tunelling with ssh -Y is strongly advised
[03:24] <hams> meaning that i ssh into my work workstation?
[03:25] <BrianPM> Thanks Regeya! I was able to set it to a default that my monitor can actually show. Great call. I hope you're feeling better soon. :)
[03:25] <Xenguy> daniels: is ssh -Y preferable to ssh -X  ?
[03:25] <daniels> EvolutionR: i think that problem will be solved with the next x.org upload
[03:25] <daniels> Xenguy: yeah
[03:26] <Xenguy> daniels: tx
[03:26] <hams> ok i'll try the ssh thing and see if X apps work...
[03:26] <EvolutionR> u mean  next xorg  version? is Xorg have some trouble working?
[03:27] <daniels> EvolutionR: there was a bug about that sort of thing that I grabbed a patch for, and it will be in the next xorg upload
[03:27] <aw> does this have anything to do w/ xorg not working on ppc w/ radeon? (sorry, came in a bit too late)
[03:28] <daniels> aw: nope.  what's your problem there?
[03:28] <dud> xorg works fine here on hoary...
[03:28] <madsen> On Hoary that is..
[03:28] <EvolutionR> Hoary is shaking unsteady here!
[03:28] <aw> daniels: it uses fbdev by default at an unacceptable resolution, if I remove the option for fbdev, it won't sync the monitor and claims it can't read the option rom
[03:29] <regeya> EvolutionR, duh
[03:29] <keyvan> hey i installed ubuntu on my laptop the other day
[03:29] <EvolutionR> I better wait for the stable release of Hoary
[03:29] <keyvan> and it is using my wireless connection just fine, and i see the signal bar at the top
[03:29] <EvolutionR> errors keep popping out
[03:29] <keyvan> but i cant tell it what ssid to connect to
[03:29] <aw> daniels: xfree86 on debian and an older xorg on gentoo work fine using the radeon driver w/o fbdev
[03:30] <keyvan> and my wireless is labeled as eth0 not wlan0 or anything
[03:30] <madsen> keyvan: sudo iwconfig eth0 essid "your ap"
[03:30] <daniels> aw: hm.  could you please file a bug with your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf attached (from the pristine configuration)?
[03:30] <daniels> aw: (i assume you're on a laptop)
[03:30] <keyvan> oh thanks madsen, theres no gui one with scanning features?
[03:30] <aw> daniels: mac mini
[03:30] <keyvan> ill try that right now though thans
[03:30] <regeya> hm...does aqua extreme work on the mini?
[03:30] <regeya> not that that matters to ubuntu users :-)
[03:31] <dud> btw, has the bug about not being able to change gnome themes been fixed yet?
[03:31] <dud> or is that a "feature"?
[03:31] <keyvan> oh madsen thanks alot, i just ran the iwconfig and it displays everything, thanks for the help, perfect, thanks
[03:32] <madsen> keyvan: I don't know about the gui stuff, there might be... I just use that... You can set it up in some startup script as well. (If you want it to connect to the same AP every time.)
[03:35] <aw> daniels: I don't have the pristine config, is there a utility I can run to remake one (X -configure doesn't work)
[03:35] <hams> vpnc is not able to open /dev/net/tun (it doesn't exist) what am i missing?
[03:36] <tritium> hams, it's not tun0?
[03:37] <hams> tritium, found a patch for 0.3.2 vpnc to get it working on amd64, was working last night, but now not so much
[03:37] <tritium> hams, you're further along than you were last night.  What was the problem?
[03:37] <tritium> I see.
[03:37] <regeya> if any NTSC-country Kino-users here have figured out how to create a DVD with synchronised audio, please let me know :-)
[03:37] <keyvan_> i wish the wifi scanning and switching was graphical though, since they already have the indicator at the top of the screen
[03:37] <tritium> hams, I think the device always has a number at the end
[03:38] <plagerism> Hrmm, how do I use ACPI
[03:38] <plagerism> Stuff like hddtemp
[03:38] <plagerism> and cputemp
[03:38] <hams> the code is doing: open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR))
[03:39] <tritium> hams, what interface name is listed in your vpnc .conf file?
[03:40] <keyvan_> could somebody help me? i am sure gtk is installed (as i see it in the synaptic package manager) but i get this error when ./configuring to install a program:
[03:40] <keyvan_> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:40] <keyvan_> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[03:40] <keyvan_> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[03:40] <keyvan_> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[03:40] <hams> tritium, none i guess? what is the syntax i'm looking for?
[03:40] <keyvan_> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[03:40] <keyvan_> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[03:40] <keyvan_> any suggestions?
[03:40] <tritium> hams, for example, the first line of mine is "Interface name tun0"
[03:41] <hams> tritium, which file and path has that in it?
[03:42] <tritium> hams, my custom config file in /etc/vpnc
[03:42] <tritium> configured for my vpn settings
[03:43] <tritium> hams, what does your config look like?
[03:44] <hams> tritium, do you have 'tun' in your /etc/modules?
[03:44] <tritium> hams, no
[03:45] <hams> when i did modprobe tun, it worked.
[03:45] <tritium> I've never needed to do that
[03:46] <hams> perhaps it's a difference in the warty/hoary kernels?
[03:47] <hams> tritium, did you need to do anything special to get X working over vpnc?
[03:47] <tritium> hams, could be the difference between the source and the debian package, which has added stuff like the vpnc-connect script
[03:47] <tritium> hams, never tried to
[03:48] <hams> good point
[03:48] <tritium> hams, try the patch on the ubuntu package sources
[03:49] <jba> anybody else getting totem complaining that alsa device already in use on hoary ?
[03:50] <plagerism> jba yes
[03:50] <plagerism> Although never use Totem
[03:50] <ron_> hello
[03:50] <ron_> new to ubuntu
[03:50] <ron_> anyone else
[03:50] <ron_> ?
[03:50] <dud> lots of new people try out ubuntu every single day ;)
[03:50] <plagerism> jba, All I gotta figure out is how to remove Totem as my default Media Player
[03:51] <plagerism> I am new to Ubuntu
[03:51] <plagerism> I likes it
[03:51] <ron_> maybe use apt get
[03:51] <jba> plagerism, why remove totem?
[03:51] <ron_> to remove
[03:51] <plagerism> jba, cause I never liked totem
[03:51] <jba> i just want to know how to get around that bug
[03:51] <ron_> apt-get
[03:51] <regeya> apt-get cured my impotency
[03:51] <ron_> ok want to know how?
[03:51] <dud> desktop-preferences-preffered applications
[03:51] <dud> try that plagerism
[03:51] <ron_> heres how
[03:52] <regeya> and it gave me infinite grenades!
[03:52] <ron_> apt-get remove totem
[03:52] <regeya> in real life
[03:52] <plagerism> thanks Dud, I just meant remove it within Gnome
[03:52] <ron_> oh
[03:52] <plagerism> dud, sorry missed that
[03:52] <plagerism> lol
[03:52] <ron_> i have a major problem
[03:52] <regeya> aye, you do
[03:52] <ron_> i went to linux .org and changed some files now my apt get is messing up
[03:52] <regeya> oh dear
[03:53] <plagerism> dud, that only does mail terminal and browser
[03:53] <ron_> naw
[03:53] <jba> where is the ubuntu mailing list, wanna see if anyone else had this problem
[03:53] <ron_> it does updates
[03:53] <ron_> as well
[03:53] <dud> hmmk
[03:53] <ron_> i disabled the universe block
[03:53] <ron_> and it was fine till i went to
[03:53] <ron_> linux.org
[03:53] <ron_> and made changes
[03:53] <regeya> jhkljhkjh
[03:54] <plagerism> I think its something to do with nautilus and gnome mime types
[03:54] <robertj> jba: right click a media file and go to properties, select the open with tab
[03:54] <regeya> here's a tip, ron_: have you thought of changing things back to the way they were before you went mucking about?
[03:54] <dud> if you added unsupported repositores, you're basically out on thin ice by yourself hehe
[03:54] <regeya> well said
[03:54] <ron_> i guess ill rebuild the whole system
[03:55] <ron_> i will be back though
[03:55] <regeya> that would probably be the easiest route
[03:55] <regeya> and don't go mucking about without a.) backups and b.) knowing what you're doing :-D
[03:55] <wm_eddie> Yes, it looks like I'm going to demo Ubuntu in my Palm programming class
[03:55] <jba> robertj, still getting the "otem could not startup" error messages
[03:55] <wm_eddie> There a program called Guikachu that my professor wants me to demo.
[03:55] <tritium> ron_, please hurry.  You've disabled the universe, and now we're frozen in space and time.
[03:55] <ron_> well i changed only one file
[03:55] <ron_> and then it stopped
[03:55] <regeya> LOL
[03:56] <ron_> i deleted and rechanged it but iut still didnt work
[03:56] <regeya> you're messing with my infinite-grenades universe patch, ron_
[03:56] <regeya> 'chunky.  bacon.'
[03:56] <hams> daniels, thanks the ssh -Y did the trick
[03:56] <ron_> i have learned a lot
[03:56] <ron_> i even added a printer
[03:56] <ron_> x75 lexmark
[03:57] <ron_> and now i never need xp again
[03:57] <regeya> ron_: messing thins up is an excellent way to learn :-)
[03:57] <tritium> ron_, awesome!
[03:57] <ron_> i can do everything windows does
[03:57] <ron_> and with wine you can even run other stuff off their system
[03:58] <ron_> i picked up a great book
[03:58] <wm_eddie> ron_: And with Transgaming's Cedega you can even play the popular games.
[03:58] <regeya> that reminds me; I haven't enabled the BSOD screensaver yet.
[03:58] <ron_> its got a yellow and black cover called  "teach yourself linux"
[03:58] <goldfish> hrmm....
[03:58] <ron_> im still learning
[03:58] <wm_eddie> ron_: I remember when I started using linux I got "Linux for dummies"
[03:58] <wm_eddie> lol....
[03:58] <goldfish> This is very strange, ubuntu recovery mode works for me fine, I am running it now, but I cant boot into ubuntu normally :/
[03:59] <wm_eddie> I learned a couple of things from that book.
[03:59] <ron_> and you know what i know no one who even cares about linux in my daily activities
[03:59] <ron_> whats the deal is everyone numb?
[03:59] <goldfish> Anyone know anyway I can check what is wrong?
[03:59] <wm_eddie> goldfish: What does the kernel say when you try botting normally?
[03:59] <marcin_ant> hello - could anyone help me with ppp settings?
[04:00] <dud> goldfish, check /var/log/syslogd
[04:00] <daniels> aw: XORG_FORCE_PROBE=yes sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:00] <ron_> ok im rebooting the whole sysem i guess unless someone knows how to restore a system to an earlier date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 ugh, blue, do you know how I can get this thing to reconfigure xfree86 the way it did on install?
[04:01] <ron_> i think start x is it
[04:01] <ron_> is it?
[04:01] <wm_eddie> ron_: Wouldn't it be great if bash had an undo command?
[04:01] <regeya> ron_: backups, or use a Red Hat system ;-)
[04:02] <goldfish> dud: file or directory does not exist
[04:02] <wm_eddie> ron_: um are you in console mode?
[04:02] <ron_> lol
[04:02] <ron_> do any women use linux?
[04:02] <ron_> i know none
[04:02] <regeya> indeed they do
[04:02] <goldfish> wm_eddie: emm.. it all goes fine, until it goes to the ubuntu cream screen, then it freezes
[04:02] <tritium> sure, my wife and mother do
[04:02] <ron_> i can be in a console
[04:02] <regeya> seek and ye shall find.
[04:02] <wm_eddie> ron_: I know of two women that use linux
[04:02] <wm_eddie> and My sister used to.
[04:02] <regeya> the wife of the founder of the local LUG did a talk at the last lunacy cruise
[04:03] <wm_eddie> ron_: what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:03] <ron_> im trying to restore my system
[04:03] <ron_> to yesterday
[04:03] <ron_> or earlier
[04:03] <regeya> we had no idea her_brain > his_brain
[04:03] <ron_> i changed a file in apt
[04:03] <ron_> in
[04:03] <ron_> etc/apt
[04:03] <ron_> and it messed up my apt-get downloads
[04:04] <ron_> it seems to semi work
[04:04] <wm_eddie> ron_: is there a /etc/apt/*~
[04:04] <HrdwrBoB> ron_: my fiance uses linux
[04:04] <ron_> let me look
[04:04] <wm_eddie> or something like sources.list~?
[04:04] <ron_> yes sources
[04:04] <ron_> but not *~
[04:04] <wm_eddie> ok
[04:05] <wm_eddie> * is a glob by the way.
[04:05] <wm_eddie> ~ means it's a backup file created by your editor
[04:05] <wm_eddie> see if that is old enough. or..
[04:05] <ron_> i took out the two ##  in universe but then when i did a linux .org suggestion it messed me up
[04:05] <dud> i force my 12 year old sister to use linux hehe
[04:05] <syn-ack> .
[04:05] <wm_eddie> you can get my sources.list from http://wm-eddie.info/~wm_eddie/sources.list
[04:05] <pvh> Has anyone else got an ACX100 Wireless LAN card?
[04:05] <ron_> ok
[04:06] <tritium> hams, did you try patching the ubuntu sources?
[04:06] <ron_> what are all the xtra lines?
[04:07] <ron_> i see java i guess
[04:07] <wm_eddie> Java and Mono and win32codecs :)
[04:07] <ron_> ok
[04:08] <hams> tritium, ?
[04:08] <tritium> yes?
[04:08] <aw> daniels: that didn't write a new xorg.conf, but I did a dpkg --purge of it and apt-get reinstalled, it's only white space difference from the xorg.conf I already uploaded to #6117
[04:08] <jba> hmm so totem notem likem alsa ?
[04:08] <hams> tritium, what do you mean patch ubuntu sources?
[04:09] <tritium> hams, get the source to the ubuntu vpnc package, patch it, and build it
[04:09] <wm_eddie> I wonder if I should bring my camera tomorrow and take a picture of the firefox kiosk in the language media center. (Powered by Ubuntu)
[04:09] <tritium> hams, see if that works better
[04:09] <regeya> wheee
[04:10] <hams> how do i get the ubuntu source version?
[04:10] <wm_eddie> ron_: by the way, it'd be pretty easy to make a shell script that backs up your etc.
[04:10] <ron_> hey
[04:10] <ron_> i think it worked
[04:11] <ron_> i coppied it in gedit
[04:11] <ron_> and ran apt get update
[04:11] <wm_eddie> cool
[04:11] <ron_> and it went through let me do a upgrade hold on
[04:11] <daniels> aw: ok.  does sudo ddcprobe give you output ending in edidfail, or a whole bunch of spew about dtiming, ctiming, tec?
[04:11] <daniels> s/tec/etc/
[04:12] <daniels> aw: (what sort of monitor is it hooked up to?)
[04:12] <aw> daniels: the latter, much spewage
[04:12] <daniels> argh
[04:12] <aw> daniels: lcd
[04:12] <ron_> if i can find a woman who likes linux and uses it ill marry her
[04:12] <daniels> well, 6.8.1-11ubuntu13 might well solve your problem
[04:12] <daniels> er, 6.8.1-1ubuntu13
[04:13] <aw> daniels: happy to try, anywhere I can pull it from?
[04:13] <ron_> wm eddie how did u get a link on here with your file?
[04:14] <wm_eddie> ?
[04:14] <ron_> is it posted on the web?
[04:14] <ron_> or did i draw it straight off the file itself?
[04:14] <wm_eddie> ?
[04:14] <ron_> the source file
[04:14] <hams> can bash be made like ksh, where EDITOR=vi changes the command keys?
[04:14] <ron_> how did i pull it up
[04:14] <ron_> off that link?
[04:14] <wm_eddie> the http://wm-eddie.info/~wm_eddie/sources.list?
[04:14] <ron_> yea
[04:14] <daniels> aw: not yet, it's not finished
[04:14] <ron_> is that a web page or
[04:15] <wm_eddie> wm-eddie.info is my web server.
[04:15] <ron_> is a file on your computer
[04:15] <ron_> or are they the same?
[04:15] <ron_> oh
[04:15] <|QuaD-> whats a good pdf editor?
[04:15] <wm_eddie> It's copied to my web serve.r
[04:15] <ron_> i have a ways to go to grasp that
[04:15] <rellik> I am trying to downgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.7 but when I boot 2.6.7 X won't start..  says "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!"  I can't 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' because it's already on the machine, for 2.6.8...  how do I fix this?
[04:15] <aw> daniels: ok, I'll keep my fingers crossed and try to pull it tomorrow
[04:15] <ron_> i thought about setting up a dns of my own mbut i have no clue as of yet
[04:15] <aw> daniels: thanks
[04:15] <wm_eddie> It's impossible to access my sources.list on my desktop from the internet.  My firewall won't let you get close to my computer.
[04:15] <HrdwrBoB> rellik: why are you doing that?
[04:15] <tritium> hams, "sudo apt-get source vpnc"
[04:16] <rellik> HrdwrBoB, there is a bug in 2.6.8 that affects my mobo's USB
[04:16] <daniels> aw: no worries
[04:16] <ron_> so wm how do i do those backups?
[04:16] <wm_eddie> well there are lots of ways.
[04:16] <hams> tritium, where does it put the source?
[04:16] <ron_> easiest
[04:16] <HrdwrBoB> rellik: the nvidia module is in linux-restricted-modules
[04:17] <rellik> HrdwrBoB, so get l-r-m for my new (old) kernel?
[04:17] <tritium> hams, in the directory where you execute the command from
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> rellik: yes, if it's there
[04:17] <rellik> HrdwrBoB, thanks I'll try that...  do I have to boot the other kernel to try that?
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> no
[04:18] <terry> are there xorg packages for dri from dri.sourceforge.net??
[04:18] <wm_eddie> "sudo nautilus /" then copy the /etc/ directory, and paste it into /var/backups/2005.02.02/ or something.
[04:18] <hams> tritium, is there a way to specify a "global" proxy? so when i start the vpn, i can set a default http proxy?
[04:18] <ron_> or something?
[04:18] <HrdwrBoB> terry: er.. what do you mean
[04:18] <HrdwrBoB> what are you trying to do
[04:18] <wm_eddie> or you can make a shell script that is run once a week or once a day or whenever you want that does just that.
[04:18] <ron_> yea
[04:19] <wm_eddie> but that requires knowing bash.
[04:19] <ron_> thats what i need a shell script
[04:19] <terry> HrdwrBob, is dri in xorg??
[04:19] <ron_> once a day
[04:19] <ron_> ok
[04:19] <defile> so far, Hoary rocks
[04:19] <ron_> how??????????????????????????????
[04:19] <wm_eddie> ron_: one ? is just as good at 10
[04:19] <tritium> hams, you're not talking about the IPSec gateway, are you?
[04:19] <ron_> let me download bash hold on
[04:19] <wm_eddie> or you sound like you are on ritalin
[04:19] <wm_eddie> lol
[04:19] <wm_eddie> ron_: You already have bash
[04:19] <wm_eddie> bash is the command prompt
[04:19] <ron_> i want to have bash thats what i was doing when it crashed
[04:20] <ron_> or i crashed it ie
[04:20] <ron_> so let me get bash now
[04:20] <wm_eddie> ?
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> terry: yes
[04:20] <ron_> i doubt it
[04:20] <defile> yep, ritalin
[04:20] <ron_> i have
[04:20] <hams> tritium, no. i mean when i connect to the vpn, i need my web browser to start using my works http proxy, can you set that on a global basis?
[04:20] <wm_eddie> I'm very sure you have bash
[04:20] <wm_eddie> already
[04:20] <terry> Oh okay, and to use them it will be automatic if supported??
[04:20] <ron_> i have gnome terminal
[04:20] <wm_eddie> yeah. see the '$'? that's bash
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> terry: yes
[04:20] <terry> Xservers still confuse the crap out of me
[04:21] <hams> echo $SHELL
[04:21] <defile> ron_, bash --version?
[04:21] <tritium> hams, for gnome apps, yes, under Computer->Preferences
[04:21] <ron_> look at this comment i got
[04:21] <tritium> (I think that's the location in Warty)
[04:21] <terry> HrdwrBoB so I have an ATI radion 9000 and I am using radeon driver
[04:21] <ron_> Reading Package Lists... Done
[04:21] <ron_> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[04:21] <ron_> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[04:21] <ron_> root@ubuntu:/home/ron #
[04:21] <hams> tritium, can that be done via a command line function or ENV variable?
[04:21] <terry> this is best?? fglrx wont give me xv
[04:21] <tritium> hams, it's called "Network Proxy"
[04:21] <tritium> hams, I don't know
[04:21] <ron_> it says i have
[04:21] <marcin_ant> are there Eclipse packages available?
[04:21] <ron_> no source url in my source file
[04:21] <wasabi_> marcin. ;)
[04:22] <wasabi_> marcin, I just made some.
[04:22] <wm_eddie> marcin_ant: In debian unstable yes
[04:22] <wasabi_> Eclipse 3.0, on mentors.debian.net
[04:22] <wasabi_> Requires gcj 4.0 though.
[04:22] <ron_> no source url in my source file it says for bash
[04:22] <wm_eddie> ron_: dude you already have bash
[04:23] <ron_> i know what ill do ill go to my cd rom and copy my apt file from the cd to my hard drive maybe i wont have to reboot
[04:23] <wm_eddie> and why is it requireing source URIs...
[04:23] <ron_> ok so i type run bash?
[04:23] <wm_eddie> ron_: no
[04:23] <wm_eddie> when you open a terminal
[04:23] <wm_eddie> that's bash
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> terry: if you don't need 3d, just stick to the 'ati' driver
[04:23] <wm_eddie> the command prompt
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> the fgrlx driver should give you xv though
[04:24] <terry> WrdwrBoB, what would i need 3d for??
[04:24] <ron_> ok so what r the file for a back up script
[04:24] <wm_eddie> now to make a shell script you have to make a file with "#!/bin/bash" on the first line (without the ""s)
[04:24] <ron_> i mean the commands for a script
[04:24] <ron_> backup once a day
[04:24] <tritium> terry, games, for example
[04:24] <wm_eddie> then you just write the commands you would do line by line.
[04:25] <terry> tritium, yes that may be a possibility in the near future
[04:26] <robertj> I need a work from work job
[04:26] <robertj> I did the math today and realized I have worked 13 hours this week, 4 of which were "meetings"
[04:27] <robertj> Is it really possible to do nothing for 40 years and not be noticed at a public University?
[04:27] <tritium> robertj, are you faculty?
[04:27] <robertj> Lower management
[04:27] <robertj> it's my first 8-5 though
[04:27] <robertj> and my wife's in school for free
[04:27] <marcin_ant> wasabi_: so, this is "native compiled" eclipse without j2sdk?
[04:28] <tritium> I would say definitely for faculty once they get tunure
[04:28] <robertj> tritium: If it weren't for the fact I can't do _nothing_ for years on end I'll be out-earining these guys in 4 years
[04:29] <tritium> robertj, how's that?
[04:29] <robertj> tiritium: IT staff are underpayed so I got an inflated title so they could pay me at a higher pay grade
[04:29] <robertj> and now plans are going through to bring it staff up to the averages
[04:29] <marcin_ant> wasabi_: ?
[04:29] <robertj> which is like 40% higher than it is now
[04:29] <tritium> I see.
[04:30] <__Penny> Hey, I have a question... if someone has a minute...   if I use the synaptic package manager to install a CMS like Plone (and thus zope) where does it put it?
[04:31] <robertj> Penny: dpkg -L package-name
[04:32] <tritium> __Penny, also, synaptic lists files in a package, if you prefer
[04:32] <__Penny> awesome
[04:32] <robertj> but I also have the blessing of "supervising" a guy who has been working at this university for 8 years and has a masters degree and isn't a moron
[04:34] <__Penny> ok... i'm really inexperienced.  is there something else I should do? I was expecting things to show up in my www dir
[04:36] <robertj> no
[04:36] <robertj> just dpkg -L packagename
[04:36] <robertj> and it will show you all the files in the pacakge
[04:36] <robertj> ie. apt-get install foo then dpkg -L foo
[04:36] <__Penny> right... i did that.
[04:37] <robertj> Penny: check that package for /etc/apache entries
[04:37] <__Penny> i guess i'm just confused... plone documentation isn't very clear to me... like how to install it
[04:37] <__Penny> ok i'll check
[04:37] <robertj> and also the /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.debian
[04:38] <robertj> because sometimes there is a bit of installing/configing left to do on your part but since part is already done for you you should rely on a README.debian if it is present instead of the upstream documents
[04:39] <__Penny> alright.
[04:39] <__Penny> i'll check that out too
[04:49] <wasabi_> I'm having trouble booting with Hoary off my raid controller.
[04:49] <wasabi_> pivot_root: No such file or directory.
[04:49] <rellik> I'm trying to downgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.7 but when I boot 2.6.7 x fails with "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!"...  I've tried booting into 2.6.7 and 'apt-get remove nvidia-glx; apt-get install nvidia-glx' but that didn't fix it..  also, I looked for a linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.7 but apt-cache doesn't list any...  any other ideas come to mind as to how to fix x ?
[04:49] <wasabi_> I assume it's because the drivers are loading in the wrong order or something.
[04:56] <goldfish> HAs anyone else had problems booting ubuntu into gui version ?
[04:56] <penguinitus> no...what problem are you having?
[04:57] <goldfish> well, em... it just wont start up, everything passes ok, then it starts GNOME, then I get the ubuntu cream screen thingy, and it freezes
[04:57] <goldfish> I am completely new to linux and I have no real idea what to do.
[04:58] <penguinitus> before you enter uname and pass and click login?
[04:58] <goldfish> yeah
[04:59] <goldfish> the screen goes cream, and that's it
[04:59] <penguinitus> what type of system? laptop? desktop? video card?
[04:59] <Crane> Hello
[04:59] <Crane> :)
[04:59] <goldfish> Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop, nVidia GeForce Ge5550 128mb
[04:59] <goldfish> *Go
[05:00] <penguinitus> that's what I figured
[05:00] <goldfish> ?
[05:00] <goldfish> Have heard of other with the same problem?
[05:00] <penguinitus> I really can't help, don't use an nVidia - but probably somebody else here does
[05:00] <goldfish> No problem, thanks.
[05:01] <penguinitus> but I can tell you your problem is either the nvidia driver module or...
[05:01] <penguinitus> acpi giving you fits
[05:01] <penguinitus> do you know how to change kernel options at boot?
[05:01] <goldfish> afraid not :/
[05:01] <goldfish> i am logged in now
[05:01] <farruinn> anyone know why Apple Airport card isn't listed on the HardwareSupport page?
[05:01] <penguinitus> that's ok...not as hard as you think
[05:01] <goldfish> i opened a terminal
[05:02] <penguinitus> using grub or lilo?
[05:02] <GuestCL> Oh, I just came here to ask a question about my desktop system (with nvidia card) thrashing the monitor just after the ubuntu screen when trying to boot the live cd.
[05:02] <FLeiXiuS> penguinitus: which run level?
[05:02] <superkitty> anyone have experience with Beatrix?
[05:02] <nevyn> farruinn: airport or airport extreme?
[05:02] <goldfish> penguinitus: grub
[05:02] <rellik> I need linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.7 but apt only lists ones for 2.6.8...  where can I get the older ones?
[05:02] <farruinn> nevyn, airport, not extreme
[05:02] <GuestCL> Ubuntu does not like nVidia?
[05:02] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: ubuntu is simple with nvidia
[05:02] <farruinn> but really both should be listed, airport for supported and extremem for not, correct?
[05:02] <nevyn> GuestCL: linux no like nvidia
[05:02] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:02] <penguinitus> goldfish: ok...reboot and when grub pops up highlight the your choice...
[05:02] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: then, nvidia-glx enable
[05:03] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: As sudo for the both of them
[05:03] <GuestCL> Er, from the live CD?
[05:03] <penguinitus> goldfish: then hit the letter "e" to edit command
[05:03] <penguinitus> goldfish: another menu will pop up, hit "e" again to edit that line...
[05:04] <farruinn> I'm thinkin my trouble may not be with the airport card but the wireless network here
[05:04] <Crane> GuestCL, what problems with nvidia are you having
[05:04] <penguinitus> goldfish: go to the end of the line and add "noapci"...
[05:04] <Crane> My ibuntu works great with nvidia
[05:04] <LinuxJones> night all
[05:04] <Crane> night
[05:05] <GuestCL> I can't even get to a command prompt.  I get GRUB, then the ubuntu bootup screen, then loud deadly monitor thrashing.  No time to download packages or install.  Have tried failsafe mode, have tried setting the resolution lower.  No help.
[05:05] <penguinitus> goldfish: if that doesn't work, repeat but instead of "noacpi"...hold on a sec.
[05:05] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: not sure
[05:05] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: try 'sudo nvidia-glx enable' then restart x
[05:05] <GuestCL> This is from the live cd.  It is not installed anywhere
[05:05] <Crane> once it boots can use >ctrl>alt>f1
[05:06] <GuestCL> I type that into the boot options line in GRUB?
[05:06] <Crane> and get console?
[05:06] <GuestCL> Oh, I could try that
[05:06] <Crane> No wait till it quits trying to boot
[05:06] <Crane> what nvidia card do you use?
[05:07] <penguinitus> goldfish: ok...try rebooting and disabling these services one at a time until you disable the one that is causing the problem...
[05:07] <GuestCL> FX5200 AGP.
[05:07] <Crane> same card I have
[05:07] <GuestCL> It seems to happen at the same time the little musical tones come on
[05:07] <penguinitus> goldfish: nofire, nodetect, nousb, nohotplug, noapic
[05:07] <penguinitus> goldfish: then you should be able to at least boot and do some more investigation
[05:08] <goldfish> Ok, thanks.
[05:08] <GuestCL> Okay, ctrl-alt-f1, enable nvidia glx, then what?
[05:08] <penguinitus> goldfish: and that change is only temporary, next time you repboot the kernel options you added will be gone
[05:08] <Crane> sdid you install the driver yet?
[05:08] <goldfish> righteo
[05:09] <FLeiXiuS> GuestCL: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:09] <wasabi> Anybody use LVM? I'm trying to figure out how to use it. =/
[05:09] <GuestCL> No, I am using the live CD, nothing gets installed anywhere.  I want to get all the instructions before I try to boot the cd again
[05:09] <Crane> GuestCL, Did you already sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:09] <kakalto> is cedega supplied in apt-get?
[05:10] <kakalto> even if through a backport from hoary
[05:10] <kakalto> ?
[05:10] <Crane> do that first then the enable nvidia-glx command
[05:10] <Crane> then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:11] <thechitow> I have a laptop and I want to get my wireless working, it is based on the Centrino Chipset, what would be the steps I should take to get this to work?... Ubuntu detects it and knows its there but I have no clue of how to get wireless to work.  I have a light normally on the front that indicates if it is on, but it isn't =/
[05:11] <GuestCL> Okay, I have it all written down.  Will reboot to try it and then let you know
[05:11] <GuestCL> Thanks for the help
[05:11] <Crane> Be sure to let us know
[05:11] <GuestCL> k
[05:11] <farruinn> Anyone have an airport card working with a router? I'm trying to follow WiFiHowto but my results don't match the wiki.
[05:12] <FLeiXiuS> farruinn: airports..eh..those can be tricky
[05:12] <Xirdneh> anybody know where are the curses headers??
[05:12] <thechitow> where is the wifi howto?
[05:12] <FLeiXiuS> farruinn: try install the ndiswrapper module
[05:13] <farruinn> for one wlan0 is not listed at all anywhere. It appears eth1 is the airport card, but that means certain iwconfig commands don't work with it
[05:13] <FLeiXiuS> thechitow: www.wiki.ubuntulinux.org i believe
[05:13] <farruinn> thechitow, ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[05:13] <FLeiXiuS> farruinn: Yeah, that'll do the trick also :-)
[05:13] <farruinn> all wiki pages are ubuntulinux.org/wiki/*
[05:13] <farruinn> afaik
[05:14] <thechitow> thanks
[05:14] <thechitow> Does linux work with Centrino?
[05:14] <farruinn> see the HardwareSupport wiki page ;-)
[05:14] <FLeiXiuS> thechitow: any architechure
[05:14] <farruinn> should work though
[05:15] <kakalto> anyone know how I can get cedega working on ubuntu?
[05:15] <link> hay yall
[05:15] <link> how do we stop that grafical login
[05:16] <link> and where are the kernal sources located
[05:16] <link> im trying to install the nvidia drivers and cant find my kernal sources
[05:16] <wasabi> How do I enable LVM? I created a lVM volume group during the install.
[05:17] <link> does ubuntu put them in by default? it should right?
[05:17] <Crane> link,  you don't need all that for nvidia drivers
[05:17] <Crane> just use apt
[05:17] <link> yeah?
[05:17] <kakalto> anyone know?
[05:17] <link> which nvidia set does apt have on there
[05:18] <Crane> kakalto, have you looked at the howtos? I thought there was one for this
[05:18] <link> cuz isnt that the one that is already put up on my system by default
[05:18] <link> there are more then one set
[05:18] <Crane> link, that I do not know
[05:18] <goldfish> penguinitus: Should those modes be in quotes?
[05:18] <link> one is called nv in the x config file
[05:18] <link> the other is called nvidia
[05:18] <Crane> I think default is th nv driver
[05:19] <penguinitus> goldfish: no quotes
[05:19] <link> yeah that one sucks
[05:19] <goldfish> penguinitus: okies
[05:19] <goldfish> thanks
[05:19] <Crane> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:19] <Crane> hold on theres more let me find it
[05:20] <link> yeah? thats the "nvidia" not the nv
[05:20] <link> right?
[05:21] <thechitow> I'm confused, my card doesn't show up in the network settings window, but I can add the connection through the wizard, but it seems as if it can't connect, what would i do then?
[05:21] <Crane> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:21] <Crane> 2. sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:21] <Crane> yes thats nvidia not nv
[05:21] <link> yer the man
[05:22] <link> where pray tell are the kernal sources any ways?
[05:22] <Crane> link,  you can also install nvidia settings control
[05:22] <Crane> hold on I'll try to find it
[05:22] <link> whats that do my friend
[05:22] <Crane> I think you can apt that too
[05:23] <link> oh ic
[05:23] <Crane> apt-get kernel-sources maybe
[05:23] <mebaran151> does anyone know when they are going to fix Evolution for AMD64
[05:23] <mebaran151> It really was quite useful
[05:23] <mebaran151> emphasis on was
[05:23] <neom> Is ubuntu vunrable to the Kernel 2.6.8 exploit
[05:23] <link> yeah that might be nice if i have to tweak something
[05:23] <thechitow> =(
[05:23] <hams> is there a true transparent terminal?
[05:23] <penguinitus> no
[05:24] <Lathiat> hams: you can enable composite and use transset to do that, bare in mind its a bit buggy, slow, and opengl wont work with composite on.
[05:24] <Crane> link,
[05:24] <thechitow> how can i find out my root password
[05:24] <Crane> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:24] <Crane> $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[05:24] <Crane> $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:24] <Crane> $ nautilus applications:///System
[05:24] <thechitow> i was never asked to type one in
[05:24] <farruinn> thechitow, you didn't read everything during base-config then
[05:24] <Crane> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[05:24] <farruinn> use sudo
[05:24] <Crane> look there
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> thechitow: there is no root password
[05:24] <Lathiat> thechitow: there isnt one, you use 'sudo su' to get root
[05:24] <brc__> thechitow, the root account is disabled
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> Lathiat: that's redundant
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> Lathiat: sudo 'command'
[05:24] <brc__> thechitow, it's best to just use sudo for anything you need to do as root
[05:24] <HrdwrBoB> or sudo -s for shell
[05:24] <farruinn> sudo -s -H is fine
[05:25] <thechitow> oh ok
[05:25] <brc__> or sudo su
[05:25] <thechitow> I am a debian noob
[05:25] <FAST> or suusuuu suuuudio
[05:25] <farruinn> see the RootSudo wiki for details
[05:25] <thechitow> Can comeone please assist me with my wireless?
[05:25] <HrdwrBoB> thechitow: debian doesn't do this, only ubuntu
[05:25] <brc__> thechitow, what about your wireless?...
[05:25] <Crane> thechitow, Sorry try sudo ifconfig down
[05:26] <thechitow> yes...
[05:26] <Crane> then sudo ifconfig up
[05:26] <GuestCL> Crane: I have feedback on the nvidia problem with the live cd
[05:26] <Crane> yes
[05:26] <thechitow> device not found
[05:26] <Crane> GuestCL, yes
[05:26] <GuestCL> Okay, ctrl-alt-f1 stopped the thrashing and brought back the ubuntu screen
[05:27] <GuestCL> Escape from there brought up the boot messages
[05:27] <penguinitus> alrighty...night all
[05:27] <GuestCL> Tried to type in the stuff you suggested there, ut got no response
[05:27] <thechitow> =(
[05:27] <GuestCL> Some interesting looking error messages there i wrote down
[05:27] <GuestCL> Tried ctrl-alt-f2 and got a bash prompt
[05:28] <farruinn> thechitow, what connections are listed when you run 'ifconfig'?
[05:28] <GuestCL> Tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:28] <Crane> thechitow, sorry I'm not real familar with networksettings
[05:28] <GuestCL> Got not found, try running apt-get update
[05:28] <Crane> Sounds like it is still not configing you card right
[05:28] <thechitow> well, i think when following the wiki guide i stopped my eth0(wireless)
[05:28] <GuestCL> tried apt-get update, got http died unexpectedly
[05:28] <thechitow> now it only shows lo
[05:29] <farruinn> you need to add wlan0 or whatever first
[05:29] <farruinn> as per the wifihowto
[05:29] <thechitow> right...
[05:29] <thechitow> um... sudo ifup wlan0?
[05:29] <link> Crane, thanks alot.
[05:30] <link> yer so freekin helpful
[05:30] <farruinn> youcan try that, but since wlan0 isn't configured I don't think it will do anything
[05:30] <thechitow> i know, it doesn
[05:30] <hams> how do i get pgup/pgdn to scroll back a gnome-terminal>?
[05:30] <thechitow> t
[05:31] <link> and you too HrdwrBoB! thanks fer yer help earlier!
[05:31] <link> this is the coolest software ever! It has the best philosophy! =oP
[05:32] <link> you hold shift i think
[05:32] <link> hams
[05:32] <Crane> thechitow, sorry ifconfig eth0 down then ifconfig eth0 up
[05:32] <neom> Is the Ubuntu planet a select few, or can anyone feed?
[05:32] <Crane> link: did it work for ya
[05:32] <Crane> GuestCL, what errors did you get from X server and is this just a live cd? is it not installed on hard drive?
[05:32] <hams> link, thanks.
[05:33] <bitfoo> damn it, my team lost :|
[05:33] <GuestCL> It is just a live CD, not installed anywhere
[05:33] <GuestCL> VESA: failed to set up write-combining range
[05:33] <Crane> OH I have never tried to install using live CD
[05:33] <GuestCL> gnmoe_message: gnmoe_execute_asynch_with_enu_fds: returning -1
[05:34] <Crane> you could possible post you question at the forums
[05:34] <farruinn> GuestCL, are you trying to install w/ livecd?
[05:34] <link> dunno i gotta restart x
[05:34] <thechitow> I'm confused
[05:34] <GuestCL> Oh, I'm not trying to install it, I just want to boot the live cd to see what ubuntu is like
[05:34] <farruinn> ah, ok
[05:34] <Crane> farruinn, he's trying to install nvidia drivers  using live cd
[05:34] <link> but how do i do that without restarting my computer
[05:34] <thechitow> it keeps talking about wlan0, but I don't have that... so where would i begin
[05:35] <Crane> is it the warty or hoary live CD
[05:35] <GuestCL> warty, I just downloaded and burned it
[05:35] <Crane> neom, anyone
[05:35] <neom> How do I get added?
[05:35] <GuestCL> And I'm not installing, just booting the live cd
[05:35] <farruinn> thechitow, did you add a connection in Network Settings?
[05:36] <thechitow> i tried
[05:36] <farruinn> :/
[05:36] <thechitow> ?
[05:36] <GuestCL> Is the live cd supposed to actually boot up to a desktop you can use?
[05:36] <Crane> yes
[05:36] <thechitow> i dont like :/
[05:36] <farruinn> well, it's not working for me either.  When I create a new connection it is eth1 not wlan0
[05:36] <thechitow> me too
[05:36] <thechitow> do you have centrino?
[05:37] <GuestCL> Should I get the other one?
[05:37] <farruinn> ibook+airport
[05:37] <hams> is there a better version of firefox that 0.9.3 that is in warty?
[05:37] <thechitow> oh god
[05:37] <thechitow> Any advice for us?
[05:37] <goldfish> hams: 1.0
[05:37] <goldfish> i think
[05:37] <Crane> GuestCL, You may want to try another download. The warty live CD worked great for me
[05:38] <hams> can i install that in warty with apt-get?
[05:38] <rellik> is there some file that runs when you log into gnome?  I wanna have stuff like gaim and email run at login
[05:38] <Crane> hams, yes if you enable backports
[05:38] <GuestCL> Okay.  I'll try it on another computer, and if that fails too I'll re-download.  Thanks for your help
[05:38] <Crane> SUre thing Good Luck GuestCL
[05:39] <bitfoo> this is off ubuntu topic but i just wanted to share, when i get a new email a wav plays that says "You've got mail m***** f*****"
[05:39] <bitfoo> i think its awesome :|
[05:39] <goldfish> bitfoo: lol
[05:40] <thechitow> farriunn: try removing it from network connectings, then doing the Wiki
[05:40] <jesus> i need help on the instalation of a emac g3
[05:40] <thechitow> im getting somewhere
[05:40] <thechitow> except where it says wlan0 do eth1
[05:40] <hams> rellik, in gnome under Compture->Desktop Prefs->Sessions you can specify startup items
[05:41] <wm_eddie> jesus: I did one yeasterday
[05:43] <thechitow> I need help
[05:43] <Crane> thechitow, still no luck
[05:45] <farruinn> anyone here currently using an aiport card? (802.11b)
[05:45] <thechitow> Yep
[05:45] <thechitow> I see intel has some centrino linux wireless drivers, would those do any good?
[05:46] <Guy-Montag> can anyone give me a hand with a crontab problem?
[05:46] <farruinn> thechitow, did you check to see if your card is in the HardwareSupport wiki page?
[05:46] <thechitow> no
[05:46] <jesus> i need help on instalation on a ppc
[05:46] <cwa2> what's the gdm package called? apt-get upgrade ???
[05:47] <farruinn> jesus, what's specifically is the problem?
[05:48] <blackmamba> 06:45 -!- cwa2<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[05:48] <blackmamba> 06:45 < farruinn> thechitow, did you check to see if your card is in the
[05:48] <blackmamba>                   HardwareSupport wiki page?
[05:48] <blackmamba> 06:46 < thechitow> no
[05:48] <blackmamba> 06:46 < jesus> i need help on instalation on a ppc
[05:48] <blackmamba> 06:46 < cwa2> what's the gdm package called? apt-get upgrade ???
[05:48] <hams> are there any ubuntu gnome themes out there?
[05:48] <blackmamba> 06:47 < farruinn> jesus, what's specifically is the problem?
[05:48] <blackmamba> sorry- mouse prob there
[05:48] <blackmamba> hams: I've got one
[05:48] <Locutus1976> I just install ssh server on my ubuntu box. Which port does it user? 22?
[05:48] <jesus> its starts fine the installing process but when i get to the dhcp i cant pass it
[05:48] <thechitow> yes,l it is on the list
[05:48] <hams> blackmamba, where can i get it?
[05:48] <blackmamba> hmmm.. I'll upload it quickly and post a link
[05:49] <farruinn> blackmamba, I did check, however airport isn't listed but people have reported it working
[05:49] <farruinn> hams: art.gnome.org I believe
[05:50] <blackmamba> hams: edison.tsf.org.za/~jonathan/bluebuntu.tar
[05:50] <cwa2> I'm getting the mkdrtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied error
[05:51] <jdub> hams: see www.gnome-look.org, lots of stuff there
[05:52] <jesus> well farruinn , i dont have an internet conection nor a lan in my house, and it tries to set up a dhcp conection
[05:52] <hams> blackmamba, what was the theme called?
[05:52] <farruinn> jesus, well if you don't have any internet connection you can just let that fail
[05:53] <farruinn> jdub: do you know why there is a lack of info regarding Airport on the Ubuntu site?
[05:53] <hams> blackmamba, i tried using the "install theme" in gnome. would that work?
[05:54] <jesus> yeah fisrt time i did, but then a menu appeared and asked for the next step on the installation, i think it was installing yabot
[05:54] <blackmamba> hmmm.. no
[05:54] <blackmamba> you have to extract that to /usr/share/gdm/themes
[05:55] <jdub> farruinn: airport?
[05:55] <jesus> but then nothing happend
[05:55] <kakalto> is cedega "free"?
[05:55] <HrdwrBoB> no
[05:55] <HrdwrBoB> it is not
[05:55] <kakalto> not in either way?
[05:55] <farruinn> jesus, everything simply stopped?
[05:55] <farruinn> jdub, apple wireless card, 802.11b
[05:56] <jdub> farruinn: probably because it just works :)
[05:56] <farruinn> ok, I was afraid of that ;)
[05:56] <thechitow> I have a Intel 2200 , it says it works instantly on the hardware support page, didn't for me
[05:56] <jesus> i hitted <enter> then the menu dissapeared and just like 4 ,5 seconds letar the menu showed up again
[05:56] <Lathiat> thechitow: i have a 2200, works fine.
[05:56] <Lathiat> thechitow: does iwconfig show it?
[05:56] <thechitow> it shows it as eth1
[05:57] <thechitow> oh shit
[05:57] <thechitow> IT IS ON!
[05:57] <thechitow> ya
[05:57] <HrdwrBoB> kakalto: there is a CVS version available that is free
[05:57] <HrdwrBoB> as in beer
[05:57] <thechitow> i think
[05:57] <thechitow> dangit
[05:57] <HrdwrBoB> and allegedly as in speech
[05:57] <Lathiat> thechitow: just go to desktop -> administration -> networking and set it up (places -> administration on warty i think)
[05:57] <thechitow> the wireless strength meter shows it is on and 100%
[05:57] <thechitow> but i can't get on
[05:57] <kakalto> HrdwrBoB, yeah, thanks
[05:57] <kakalto> just found a howto...
[05:58] <thechitow> HALLELUJAH!
[05:58] <kakalto> but, some of the packages it says it requires don't show up in synaptic
[05:58] <thechitow> sweet
[05:58] <thechitow> i pressed the button on the front on my laptop
[05:58] <thechitow> that shuts it on and off
[05:58] <thechitow> it usually lights up in windows
[05:58] <thechitow> but now it works
[05:58] <hams> blackmamba, ok i did that, but it doesn't show up under the gnome theme menu?
[05:59] <Soap_On_A_Roap> anything I can get to run .WMV files?
[05:59] <kakalto> w32codecs
[05:59] <thechitow> sweet
[05:59] <Soap_On_A_Roap> where do I get
[05:59] <blackmamba> hams: did you extract it?
[05:59] <thechitow> ubuntu pwns
[05:59] <thechitow> thanks for the help guys
[06:00] <hams> blackmamba, yes
[06:00] <kakalto> Soap_On_A_Roap, as far as I know, in synaptic
[06:00] <kakalto> yeah
[06:00] <kakalto> it's there
[06:00] <johnnyboy> hey, does anybody know how to stop the X-Windows Server?
[06:00] <blackmamba> does ls /usr/share/gdm/themes show the bLubuntu directory?
[06:00] <Guardiann> good evening fellows
[06:00] <kakalto> Soap_On_A_Roap, go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[06:00] <hams> blackmamba, yes
[06:02] <dud> johnnyboy, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:02] <hams> i use theme under Computer->Desktop Prefrences?
[06:02] <cwa2> had to change my /tmp permissions to 777
[06:02] <johnnyboy> ok, dud, thanks
[06:02] <dud> np
[06:02] <blackmamba> you might have to exit that and go back in again, it's weird that it's not showing
[06:05] <rellik> I'm trying to set up cron to play a video at a certain time, using 'mplayer -display :0.0 <file>'.  the command works when I just type it in, but from cron it fails, saying "Must be connected to a terminal"...  how do I make cron happy?
[06:05] <Dreamer3> rellik: hmmmmmm, that's a really good question
[06:05] <Dreamer3> rellik: is it running as root?
[06:06] <rellik> Dreamer3 nope, regular user (same user logged into x)
[06:06] <Dreamer3> rellik: hmmm
[06:07] <Soap_On_A_Roap> ty
[06:07] <Dreamer3> rellik: have you tried redirecting the output?
[06:07] <Dreamer3> rellik: 2>&1 > /dev/null
[06:07] <hikaru79> I'm having problems running Ruby scripts after uncommenting the '#AddHandler cgi-script .cgi' line in apache2.conf , any ideas?
[06:07] <Dreamer3> or something?
[06:07] <Dreamer3> i really don't know though
[06:07] <rellik> Dreamer3 redirecting output from what?
[06:08] <blackmamba> g Ruby scripts after uncommenting
[06:08] <blackmamba>                   the '#AddHandler cgi-script .cgi' line in apache2.conf , any
[06:08] <blackmamba>                   ideas?
[06:08] <blackmamba> 07:06 < Dreamer3> or something?
[06:08] <blackmamba> 07:06 -!- MrNaughty<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit
[06:08] <blackmamba>           ["\(^_^)/' No Soliciting!!! Unless you have legs way, way up and
[06:08] <Dreamer3> rellik: from mplayer, like i just typed
[06:08] <blackmamba>           really, really big tits...."]
[06:08] <blackmamba> 07:07 < Dreamer3> i really don't know though
[06:12] <blackmamba> 07:07 < rellik> Dreamer3 redirecting og Ruby scripts after uncommenting
[06:12] <blackmamba>                   the '#AddHandler cgi-script .cgi' line in apache2.conf , any
[06:12] <blackmamba>                   ideas?
[06:12] <blackmamba> 07:06 < Dreamer3> or something?
[06:12] <blackmamba> 07:06 -!- MrNaughty<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit
[06:12] <Dreamer3> blackmamba: huh?
[06:12] <blackmamba>           ["\(^_^)/' No Soliciting!!! Unless you have legs way, way up and
[06:12] <blackmamba>           really, really big tits...."]
[06:12] <blackmamba> 07:07 < Dreamer3> i really don't know though
[06:12] <dud> touchpad has to be one of the worst inventions ever heh
[06:12] <Crane> yep
[06:12] <Dreamer3> i like ibm's joypad :)
[06:12] <kakalto> can anyone help me with installing the CVS Cedega?
[06:12] <kakalto> I get an error
[06:12] <kakalto> and I'm not sure exactly why
[06:12] <budfox> how can I get my gnome pager back?
[06:12] <paravoid> hm and i wondered what i was doing wrong with X :>
[06:13] <paravoid> is there any workaround?
[06:14] <rempresent> hey hey hey
[06:14] <kakalto> hey hey hey hey.
[06:15] <rempresent> where is the wastebasket located, if i was running the cd command in the terminal
[06:15] <rempresent> ?
[06:15] <Crane> H E L L O
[06:15] <Crane> cd .Trash
[06:15] <rempresent> thanks
[06:15] <Crane> if your in your home directory
[06:16] <cg0def> hi, can someone tell me what was the address of the ubuntu repository
[06:17] <cg0def> I am not at my ubuntu computer so I can't check it
[06:17] <kakalto> a few moments...
[06:17] <Crane> cg0def, which repo are you talking about?
[06:17] <kakalto> www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[06:17] <cg0def> kakalto: thanks
[06:18] <kakalto> assuming you're not looking for backport repositorie or any other special one
[06:19] <cg0def> kakalto: well actually I was looking for the hoary ones
[06:19] <kakalto> cg0def, then that link likely won't tell you, sorru
[06:19] <kakalto> *sorry
[06:19] <cg0def> I was trying to install xorg on debian for a friend and I know that the ubuntu pkg works
[06:20] <jdub> cg0def: archive.ubuntu.com
[06:20] <cg0def> jdub: thanks
[06:21] <keyvan> if i have a .deb file, how do i install that?
[06:21] <kakalto> man dpkg
[06:21] <keyvan> thx
[06:21] <kakalto> s' alright
[06:26] <link> eh... Crane
[06:26] <Crane> yes
[06:26] <link> you told me to type in a nautulus command
[06:26] <Crane> yes
[06:27] <Crane> from the link
[06:27] <link> but i didnt do it cuz i didnt know what it was
[06:27] <link> and now i think i got problems
[06:27] <kakalto> nautilus is the file browser
[06:27] <link> but what was it
[06:27] <link> oh...
[06:27] <link> what was that command for
[06:28] <Crane> look in >applications  >system tools on the menu
[06:28] <Crane> do you see nvidia setting?
[06:28] <link> nope
[06:28] <Crane> I think that is waht it installs
[06:29] <link> ahhh that would have been nice
[06:29] <link> ic
[06:29] <link> well thats not whats causin me problems then
[06:29] <Crane> still having problems
[06:29] <Crane> with nvidia
[06:30] <link> whoa!!! they just went away!
[06:30] <link> i tried again to get the error and
[06:30] <link> geez
[06:30] <link> it just worked
[06:30] <link> mmmmm
[06:30] <link> this is not good
[06:31] <Crane> what went away?
[06:31] <link> my problems
[06:31] <link> i mean thats good
[06:31] <Crane> lol why is that not good
[06:31] <Crane> oh
[06:31] <link> but
[06:31] <link> things shouldnt change by them selves
[06:31] <link> thats why i left windows
[06:31] <Crane> lol
[06:31] <link> ok
[06:32] <Crane> what kind of problem was it
[06:32] <link> cool every thing works great excelent
[06:32] <dud> nvidia-settings likes to seg fault on my amd64
[06:32] <link> i was trying to play an old game that i used to play a lot
[06:32] <link> quake
[06:33] <link> and you know, getting games to work is kinda how i learned what i know to day
[06:33] <dud> dud@shadowplay:~ $ nvidia-settings
[06:33] <dud> Segmentation fault
[06:33] <link> like back on my 386 and stuff
[06:33] <link> editing the autoexec.bat and config sys
[06:33] <link> you know what i mean
[06:33] <dud> yeah, back in the dos days
[06:34] <link> getting games to work, learning the system
[06:34] <link> its all the same thing
[06:34] <dud> some of my earliest cracking like jobs, were trying to hack larry 1 :D
[06:34] <link> yeah you hear me dud, you know what im talkin bout
[06:34] <Crane> yep thats what got me envolved in linux in the first place
[06:34] <Crane> setting up a q3 server
[06:35] <link> ahh groovy yeah  i hear they make hella good servers huh
[06:35] <link> linux boxes
[06:35] <Crane> yep
[06:35] <Crane> And great clients as well
[06:35] <link> well my next task is to host a very small webpage off my dsl line
[06:35] <link> or try to anyway
[06:36] <Crane>  using apache
[06:36] <Crane> ?
[06:36] <link> how do you regester a domain with out paying anyone
[06:36] <Crane> on ubuntu?
[06:36] <link> i dunno what is apache =oP
[06:36] <Crane> heh don't know, I pay for mine
[06:36] <link> yeah i was hoping to use ubuntu
[06:37] <Crane> I have a hosting company for mine
[06:37] <link> but other distros seem to come with a lot of that stuff