[02:59] <nothlit> The_Jack_of_Club, you can add as passwd with smbpasswd, or edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and change security to share
[02:59] <un_operateur1> Geoffrey2, CTRL+ALT+F1
[02:59] <n2diy> FernandoCordes: roger
[02:59] <un_operateur1> j0rge :d
[02:59] <lufis> What does it mean for a processor to have one speed "internally" and another "externally"?
[02:59] <The_Jack_of_Club> ok ill try that
[02:59] <Drako60> is make modules still required when compiling a kernel?
[02:59] <Geoffrey2> oh fun, I can't even get tty1 to come up now
[02:59] <blanky> GUYS! :'( I updated the kernel through the updates program and not my /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't have the windows entry!
[02:59] <blanky> How can I Add it?
[02:59] <CalJohn> jrib: so how come you can use caps?
[03:00] <lufis> blanky: why in god's name would you want to add THAT? ;)
[03:00] <n2diy> Does the system abandon the first tty when X starts? I always use ctl+F2.
[03:00] <blanky> can anyone help me? :(
[03:00] <nothlit> !grub | blanky
[03:00] <ubotu> blanky: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:00] <somerville32> !ask | blanky
[03:00] <ubotu> blanky: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:00] <lufis> blanky: look for a backup file
[03:00] <untony2> jrib: i am in network settings
[03:00] <wy> strange. My ubuntu started to crash
[03:00] <baconbacon> lufis, internal clock speed vs external bus speed
[03:00] <jrib> CalJohn: well the size was changing but the font wasn't.  It used to work fine on previous versions of ubuntu
[03:00] <blanky> somerville32: I did ask my question, read next time
[03:00] <nothlit> somerville32, he asked the question first
[03:00] <jrib> untony2: hit the "general" tab
[03:00] <blanky> lufis: none
[03:00] <lufis> baconbacon: ah, thank you
[03:01] <untony2> jrib ok
[03:01] <blanky> thanks nothlit
[03:01] <somerville32> blanky: There is a script to update grub, one sec
[03:01] <Geoffrey2> ok, how about to kill all processes?
[03:01] <untony2> jrib ok i see it i dont want to change my host name
[03:01] <blanky> somerville32: er, thanks, but I don't think I want to update grub...?
[03:01] <graft> anyone got recommendations for a nice video editor?
[03:01] <blanky> I just want to re-add my windows partition entry
[03:01] <jrib> untony2: ok
[03:01] <whyameye> graft: cinelerra
[03:01] <untony2> jrib where does ubuntu store those hostname aliases for other ipaddress
[03:01] <jrib> Geoffrey2: turn off your computer.  What do you mean exactly?
[03:01] <un_operateur1> I wonder if dpkg-reconfigure --priority low; grub helps in that instance
[03:01] <somerville32> blanky: I don't mean the software :P
[03:01] <whyameye> graft: I had quite a time installing it though. But that was awhile ago....
[03:01] <Jordan_U_> somerville32: to update grub use: sudo update-grub
[03:01] <n2diy> I answered my own question, the system does free up the first tty when X starts.
[03:01] <graft> whyameye: there a deb version of it?
[03:01] <untony2> jrib where does ubuntu store those hostname aliases for other ipaddress
[03:02] <blanky> oo
[03:02] <un_operateur1> untony2, /etc/hosts I think
[03:02] <untony2> jrib where does ubuntu store those hostname aliases for other ipaddress#@$%#@$@%4
[03:02] <somerville32> blanky, what Jordan_U_ said
[03:02] <n2diy> somerville32: Would that be in NJ?
[03:02] <jrib> untony2: /etc/hosts, but if you edit the one for <IP_ADDRESS> you ahve to update /etc/hostname
[03:02] <blanky> Jordan_U_ and somerville32 so should I do that?
[03:02] <blanky> somerville32: oh okay
[03:02] <lufis> blanky: are you sure a backup isn't just hidden?
[03:02] <whyameye> graft: there was but it didn't work for me, so I had to build. But you could try the deb version. Not sure where it is.
[03:02] <jrib> untony2: you only have to ask your question once
[03:02] <somerville32> blanky, :)
[03:02] <blanky> lufis: I searched, I only found menu.lst~ but that's from kate (im using kate to view it)
[03:02] <somerville32> blanky, If it doesn't fix it, I'll tell you how to add it manually
[03:02] <blanky> somerville32: thanks :)
[03:02] <somerville32> n2diy, NJ?
[03:02] <wy> Is there a way to find out the cause of a crash? Everytime I insert a cd, it will crash
[03:02] <Geoffrey2> jrib, ok, I thought someone had told me about a command like Alt-SysReq-K, or something along that line...
[03:02] <whyameye> graft: try this http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/blog/?p=47
[03:02] <untony2> ok thanks alot jrib
[03:02] <untony2> alot
[03:03] <n2diy> somerville32: Somervill, New Jersey?
[03:03] <lufis> blanky: isn't a file with ~ on it backup? :P
[03:03] <nothlit> blanky, ~ is probably a backup automatically made by kate
[03:03] <jrib> Geoffrey2:
[03:03] <jrib> Geoffrey2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Skinny_Elephants_Is_Utterly_Boring ?
[03:03] <blanky> nothlit lufis that's what I meant, yes
[03:03] <somerville32> n2diy, Oh!! Ugh.. I live in Canada if thats what you are asking. Somerville is my last name ;]
[03:03] <lufis> blanky: ah, sorry i can't be of more help
[03:03] <untony2> can someone type my nickname
[03:03] <untony2> can someone type my nickname
[03:03] <jrib> untony2:
[03:03] <nothlit> blanky, oh sorry, i skim a lot on support channels
[03:03] <blanky> lufis: lol thanks anyways, somerville32 and Jordan_U_ helped enough :), thanks anyways!
[03:03] <nothlit> untony2,
[03:03] <un_operateur1> Dr34mC0d3r, I hope you're ok with what i suggested
[03:03] <blanky> nothlit: it's okay :)
[03:04] <fj2> hy all!
[03:04] <untony2> again
[03:04] <untony2> untony2
[03:04] <n2diy> somerville32: , ok, I used to hang out in Somerville, NJ.
[03:04] <jrib> untony2: do this in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[03:04] <wastrel> UBUNTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
[03:04] <somerville32> n2diy, Cool! :)
[03:04] <wy> Hi, can anyone help with with the crashing problem?
[03:04] <somerville32> wy: Sure.
[03:04] <untony2> hi wy i can help
[03:04] <fj2> got a veeery big problem.... anyone from the usa here, willing to ping a server for me?
[03:04] <blanky> somerville32: should my menu.lst have the windows entry after I do sudo update-grub? or after I Restart, because I did that command and then cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | less and didn't find the windows entry
[03:04] <nothlit> wastrel, shhhh :P
[03:04] <wy> untony2, somerville32 : thank you!
[03:04] <somerville32> blanky, Should automatically have it
[03:04] <graft> whyameye: cool, thanks
[03:04] <ady> wy, depends if its a partional problem, if not i cant help
[03:05] <blanky> somerville32: yeah, it doesn't appear to have been modified
[03:05] <fj2> hmm... anyone here who is playing counter strike?
[03:05] <somerville32> blanky, Do you have /boot on a separate partition?
[03:05] <j0rg3> un_op:  What app do you use for providing background music while you answer this waterfall of inquire?
[03:05] <slyboots_> People still play that crap?
[03:05] <untony2> thanks guys
[03:05] <fj2> or any other steam-game?
[03:05] <blanky> somerville32: no sir
[03:05] <ady> fjy i would be if i could get it to work
[03:05] <slyboots_> Jeez
[03:05] <somerville32> blanky: See query
[03:05] <fj2> ady ... that means?
[03:05] <blanky> somerville32: Im looking for a menu.lst template file online
[03:06] <blanky> okay
[03:06] <whyameye> graft: you might check the cinelerra irc channel too. I remember some of the guys that actually build the .deb packages hang out there.
[03:06] <toM|vendettA> hi is there a way to get flash to detect my webcam?
[03:06] <FernandoCordes> i'm trying to remove a module named vmnet (vmware networking) when i use sudo rmmod -f vmnet i get ressource temporarily unavailable. is there any way to get rid of this?
[03:06] <graft> use the webcam to take a picture of flash...
[03:06] <carutsu> hello
[03:06] <wy> I installed a Windows XP in the first partition just now. Before that it's a normal partition I used to store large files. After that I reinstalled grub. Later ubuntu can start. But things go strange that it crashes everytime I insert a CD
[03:06] <toM|vendettA> fj2: the steam servers are down.
[03:07] <j0rg3> Hello, carutsu
[03:07] <Geoffrey2> I guess I could just reboot the whole thing...problem is, this problem keeps recurring, and I'd prefer to find a way to make it go away
[03:07] <Galaeron> Hey guys whats up - Im new to Ubuntu and linux ^^ so I got a quick question...How the heck do you get xchat installed? I tried running the apt-get commands and it couldn't find the package and when I used the package-manager I could find nothing there. ANy ideas?
[03:07] <FernandoCordes> wy: never do this :-)99
[03:07] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, you should try that in single-user mode
[03:07] <Thuryn> hey
[03:07] <carutsu> can anyone tell me how to add packages (no programs) in KDE? like Synaptics?
[03:07] <k1piee> sup
[03:07] <wastrel> Galaeron:  xchat isn't in the default software repositories
[03:07] <wy> FernandoCordes: But why does it crash?
[03:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Galaeron about universe | Galaeron, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:07] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: how can i get into single-user mode?
[03:07] <k1piee> ok
[03:07] <LjL> !xchat | Galaeron
[03:07] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[03:07] <FernandoCordes> wy: don't ask. sounds really strange
[03:07] <wastrel> !universe | Galaeron
[03:07] <ubotu> Galaeron: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:07] <ubuntu> hello
[03:07] <ubuntu> i want help
[03:08] <LjL> !helpme
[03:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:08] <wastrel> Galaeron:  you need to "enable universe"
[03:08] <n2diy> Galaeron: did you try synaptic? System/admin/synapic
[03:08] <ubuntu> how to enter in su to be root admin
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> fj2: If you're referring to us.archive.ubuntu.com, I get nothing.
[03:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ubuntu about sudo | ubuntu, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:08] <somerville32> !repositories | galaeron
[03:08] <ubotu> galaeron: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:08] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, in a terminal --- sudo telinit 1
[03:08] <Galaeron> wow thanks guys...replies out my anus :)
[03:08] <lufis> :-o
[03:08] <FernandoCordes> !gnome-terminal | ubuntu
[03:08] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 408 kB
[03:08] <wy> untony2, somerville32 : Any ideas about that?
[03:08] <carutsu> if i uninstall GNOME does synaptics go with it?
[03:08] <Jordan_U_> ubuntu: don't use su, use : sudo -S
[03:08] <slyboots_> Okay, Ran into a crappy problem, Installed Ubuntu after blitzing my drive *Sob* Tried to install Mplayer but, It wont install because Im on a AMD64 bit system
[03:08] <LjL> carutsu: it's a GNOME program, so yes, i guess
[03:08] <lufis> carutsu: I don't think so
[03:09] <somerville32> wy: Does Windows crash or Ubuntu?
[03:09] <carutsu> ok, but how can i add packages with KDE?
[03:09] <slyboots_> Can I not.. force it to use the 32bit version and install any needed files?
[03:09] <wy> somerville32: Ubuntu crashes
[03:09] <un_operateur1> gnome-app-install &      might still be lurking
[03:09] <nothlit> carutsu, kde has adept
[03:09] <somerville32> wy: I
[03:09] <carutsu> i mean i know there is adop or something
[03:09] <carutsu> ok
[03:09] <somerville32> wy: Not sure how the two are related
[03:09] <Jordan_U_> ubuntu: That is a lowercase "s" so it's actually: sudo -s :)
[03:09] <carutsu> but it doesnt display all that synaptics do
[03:09] <wy> somerville32: I can boot normally and as long as I don't insert a CD, it's fine
[03:09] <n2diy> carutsu: unless you have another windows manager installed, my guess would be yes.
[03:09] <LjL> carutsu: Adept, yes. but you can always also use apt-get / aptitude
[03:09] <nothlit> carutsu, you can always reinstall synaptic and use it in kde
[03:09] <ady> wy, its a ntfs partional problem
[03:10] <somerville32> wy: Insert a cd during Ubuntu is running or during the boot process?
[03:10] <wy> somerville32: OK. ignore the windows part. I
[03:10] <carutsu> i like synaptic
[03:10] <nothlit> !linux32 | slyboots_
[03:10] <wastrel> i like aptitude ok
[03:10] <ubotu> linux32: Wrapper to set the execution domain. In component main, is extra. Version 1-3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB
[03:10] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: this thing won't take my password. some kind of strange because i only have this one password
[03:10] <carutsu> i want everithing gnome related out but synaptic
[03:10] <theonceandfuture> Is there a ogg ripper that is faster than Sound juicer? Oh and perhaps has something that detects a skip or scratch in the disc?
[03:10] <nothlit> whats the collection of utils to run bits in 32 bit mode
[03:10] <wy> somerville32: during it's running.
[03:10] <nothlit> run apps
[03:10] <carutsu> is there a way to do that?
[03:10] <j0rg3> Well, kids.  It was nice hanging about. This "big conversation" is about to make my eyes bleed.  I know enough that I hope to answer my own questions.  I don't know enough to answer any other questions with confidence.  L8r t8rs!
[03:10] <wy> ady: How can I have this problem?
[03:10] <LjL> carutsu: no can do, synaptic does depend about other gnome-related things... it just can't run without them. they aren't incredibly many, though
[03:10] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, hmm, and you are using your password, right?
[03:10] <somerville32> wy: Thats weird. Never heard of that happening.
[03:10] <Galaeron> Man these links are pretty vast...ill be reading for awhile. Thanks again guys
[03:11] <LjL> carutsu: i suggest you just start by removing libgnome. i don't think synaptic should be removed by that alone
[03:11] <wy> somerville32: yes. weird...
[03:11] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: right, i'm trying the password that normally brings me into my xsession
[03:11] <FernandoCordes> i have no other
[03:11] <carutsu> libgnome...
[03:11] <somerville32> wy: Try searching through the bug reports at http://bugs.launchpad.net
[03:11] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, maybe this --- gksu telinit 1
[03:11] <ubuntu> now i can't understand
[03:11] <slyboots_> So I need to install linux32 then?
[03:11] <somerville32> wy: The forums would be a good place to check too.
[03:11] <wy> somerville32: Ah... Because windows XP can't be installed in Thinkpad T60's SATA disk, I turned the mode into "compatible" in BIOS. Could that be the reason?
[03:11] <untony2> how do i disable remote SSH login??????????????
[03:11] <untony2> oops
[03:12] <untony2> sorry for ?
[03:12] <un_operateur1> disable sshd
[03:12] <Jordan_U_> carutsu: You can use Synaptic in kubuntu, but you will need gnome-libraries to do it, so you won't have any gnome apps cluttering your menus or anything, just do: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:12] <somerville32> wy: Most certainly could be. Try changing it back?
[03:12] <un_operateur1> enable firewall to block port 22/ssh
[03:12] <untony2> un_operateur1: how do i disable sshd
[03:12] <carutsu> actually is what i think ill do
[03:12] <BillyBober09> whyameye, it made my screen bigger but not my resolution. I even restarted my PC and then went to resolution.
[03:13] <n2diy> untony2: why would you want too? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of ssh?
[03:13] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: omg i'm tricked out by my own system. with gksu it won't work either
[03:13] <nothlit> untony2, remove the ssh server?
[03:13] <un_operateur1> untony2, uninstall it or configure firewall or remove entry from services
[03:13] <g0tw00d> How do I get Nautilus to open in sudo?
[03:13] <carutsu> can you repeat what should i remove to get everything else gnome-related out?
[03:13] <un_operateur1> g0tw00d, not a good idea
[03:13] <g0tw00d> why is that
[03:13] <nothlit> g0tw00d, press alt and f2 together, then type gksudo nautilus
[03:13] <nothlit> G0SUB, and hit enter
[03:13] <wy> somerville32: Ok. Wait... I'll try to crash it again first...
[03:13] <LDZ420> I am trying to create small databases for my local machine only do I need the client/server apps with MySql?
[03:13] <un_operateur1> theres a reason why you dont log into root by default
[03:13] <nothlit> un_operateur1, a lot of people don't know how to use cp/mv
[03:14] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, hmm .. strange
[03:14] <n2diy> g0tw00d, open a terminal, and enter sudo nautilus
[03:14] <g0tw00d> what is the reason explain plz
[03:14] <nothlit> un_operateur1, for some it would be safer to stick with the gui
[03:14] <Lj> hello
[03:14] <g0tw00d> i get som kinda error when i do that
[03:14] <whyameye> BillyBober09: so you are saying that before it wasn't using all of the screen and now it is but the resolution is still 640x480?
[03:14] <nothlit> n2diy, never use sudo with a graphical application
[03:14] <slyboots_> Okay, I've installed linux32, but it still wont let me install mplayer (Same error message, not for this computer type AMD64)
[03:14] <Lj> somebody speak spanish??
[03:14] <wastrel> sudo nautilus is bad because it makes your desktop file thinger root non?
[03:14] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i never used this telinit before so i can't tell if it ever worked. is there no other way to force the rmmod of this module?
[03:14] <carutsu> i do
[03:14] <wastrel> !es | lj
[03:14] <ubotu> lj: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:14] <un_operateur1> nothlit, I dont know why you'd get yourself into a messy situation that warrants using sudo ..
[03:14] <whyameye> nothlit: why not use sudo with a graphical app?
[03:14] <carutsu> yo hablo espan~ol
[03:15] <g0tw00d> im the only one usign this pc its in my house
[03:15] <g0tw00d> why would it matter if i open my file browser in sudp?
[03:15] <n2diy> nothlit: most of the stuff you can run from a menu, you can run from the command line as sudo.
[03:15] <g0tw00d> im not arguing im asking why? :)
[03:15] <un_operateur1> if you play by linux rules, you dont ever need to use sudo unless you want to administer the system
[03:15] <nothlit> un_operateur1, people sometimes need to install plugins, or configs and themes system-wide
[03:15] <BillyBober09> whyameye, yes its using most of the screen except for now because I hit the Fn but plus F5. Yes resoultion still same
[03:15] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, ok -- try this -- sudo su -
[03:15] <un_operateur1> what happens then?
[03:15] <ktogias> g0tw00d, it is totally insecure
[03:15] <ubun> i can't paste any text inside of vim running in putty! any idea why
[03:16] <nothlit> whyameye, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[03:16] <wastrel> ubun:  putty in windows?
[03:16] <un_operateur1> nothlit, yea, its only then when you really require super user privs ..
[03:16] <whyameye> BillyBober09: and you tried going to system -> prefs -> screen resolution agaon?
[03:16] <g0tw00d> only if the guys sits infront of my pc....no?
[03:16] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: sudo su rmmod vmnet?
[03:16] <ubun> wastrel putty in ubuntu
[03:16] <wastrel> ubun:  putty uses right-click paste i think by default in 'doze
[03:16] <ubun> in gnome
[03:16] <un_operateur1> no FernandoCordes just   sudo su -
[03:16] <LDZ420> What is a module mean?
[03:16] <ubuntu> now i try but nothing with sudo
[03:16] <baconbacon> ubun, ctrl+shift+v ?
[03:16] <BillyBober09> whyameye, yes already said that
[03:16] <wastrel> ok, putty in 'nix uses middle-click as paste by default.
[03:16] <nothlit> a lot of times you need to do something system wide, as in for every user profile
[03:16] <ubun> baconbacon doesnt work either
[03:16] <wastrel> or shift-insert mebby i dunno never used putty on 'doze
[03:16] <DARKGuy> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup here: PCI & AGP cards. PCI one is the one at boot and thus the one in which the Linux terminals are in. I wonder, how can I avoid the secondary monitor (AGP card) to stop flashing grey blocks (which I'm told that's harmful for both the monitor and the card) and just go black like my older Ubuntu install which didn't used to do that?
[03:16] <Jordan_U_> !fixres | BillyBober09
[03:16] <ubotu> BillyBober09: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:17] <ubun> middle clicking isnt working either, nothing is
[03:17] <n2diy> g0tw00d, and your not online.
[03:17] <dooglus> all my virtual terminals are brightly coloured random noise
[03:17] <g0tw00d> whats teh have to do with it?
[03:17] <dooglus> (in edgy, with an ATI X1600 card)
[03:17] <g0tw00d> im typing a command, to open file manager
[03:17] <whyameye> BillyBober09: I'm asking if you went back to that dialog AFTER making these changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <g0tw00d> then i close it when done
[03:17] <dooglus> what can I do to fix them?
[03:17] <g0tw00d> how does that make me insecure?
[03:17] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: ok- now?
[03:17] <un_operateur1> nothlit, in exactly what situations do you need to make system wide changes to user profiles?? that too by using a sudoed nautilus??
[03:17] <nothlit> DARKGuy, lol you're helping and asking?
[03:17] <carutsu> hey have wnyone heard of bad battery support? i mean if i unplug my laptop it thinks that has no batery left
[03:17] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, did that work??
[03:17] <carutsu> *no power left
[03:17] <theonceandfuture> Is there a way to shut off GNOME's desktop icons
[03:18] <carutsu> so it hibernates
[03:18] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Well >.> that didn't used to happen to me before so xD
[03:18] <levander> Anybody else using Thunderbird, when you go to Tools -> Message Filters, does Thunderbird crash for you?
[03:18] <dooglus> LDZ420: a module is a part of the kernel which can be loaded at any time
[03:18] <Stormx2> theonceandfuture: Yeah. Check in gconf-editor
[03:18] <theonceandfuture> ok
[03:18] <ubuntu> ubotu
[03:18] <baconbacon> carutsu: did it always do that?
[03:18] <ubuntu> ubutu
[03:18] <nothlit> un_operateur1, people can install themes, edit vnc.config, lots of things that they may not be comfortable doing in the command line
[03:18] <carutsu> yep
[03:18] <levander> Somebody can try it and tell me if it crashes for them?
[03:18] <ubuntu> su
[03:18] <carutsu> never recogniced very good the bateries
[03:18] <nothlit> un_operateur1, menus entries
[03:18] <Jordan_U_> g0tw00d: It doesn't on it's own, it is just that many people forget to close it or simply leave it open out of convienience, which is insecure
[03:18] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: yes :-) its unloaded. where is the difference btw sudo su and sudo?
[03:18] <n2diy> levander: I'm using T-Bird, and I don't have any problems with my filters, or anything else.
[03:18] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: thx a lot
[03:18] <ubuntu> sudo
[03:18] <wy> somerville32: crashed again!
[03:19] <wy> somerville32: Now my disk is in AHCI mode
[03:19] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, :) I think telinit was failing there
[03:19] <baconbacon> carutsu: What's your laptop model? Maybe he has a non-standard acpi
[03:19] <ubuntu> man this difference
[03:19] <levander> n2diy: I tell you, both Thunderbird and Firefox seem not as stable as before I upgraded.
[03:19] <wy> somerville32: I'll try again...
[03:19] <sud0> kids
[03:19] <FernandoCordes> ubuntu: stop spamming around. if you want to ask ubotu things type !(command)
[03:19] <carutsu> mmm Acer TravelMate 4060
[03:19] <g0tw00d> i agree for my server room yes
[03:19] <g0tw00d> this is my house
[03:19] <levander> n2diy: The flash plugin I think is crashing Firefox occasionally.
[03:19] <wizard> Hey all.  I have a very common question.  WMV files won't play correctly in mplayer.  I've followed a couple of tutorials, but none of them seem to do the trick.  could someone advice?
[03:19] <ubuntu> Fernando i'm not spamming
[03:19] <g0tw00d> noone usign it unless i tellt hem too
[03:19] <dooglus> !virtual terminals
[03:19] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, sudo su uses su, which uses root variables and isn't logged by sudo
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual terminals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <ubuntu> Fernando are you good
[03:19] <dooglus> !vt
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <ubuntu> Fernando are you drinking
[03:19] <n2diy> levander: when did you upgrade? I'm sitting on eight of them.
[03:20] <Jordan_U_> !botspam
[03:20] <carutsu> baconbacon: Acer Travelmate 406
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botspam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <ubuntu> becouse i ask before how to turn on
[03:20] <carutsu> !bateries
[03:20] <ubuntu> root privilegies on Ubunut
[03:20] <levander> n2diy: I upgraded to edgy about 2/3 weeks ago.  You're sitting on 8 of what?
[03:20] <nothlit> !w32codecs | wizard
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bateries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <ubotu> wizard: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <ubuntu> Ubuntu and it told me that i can't
[03:20] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:20] <wizard> nothlit, thanks.  I'll check those out right now.
[03:20] <FernandoCordes> nothlit: some kind of stronger root access?
[03:20] <ubuntu> and i have directory that say permission denied
[03:20] <nothlit> wizard, lot at w32codecs
[03:20] <n2diy> levander: That could be, I tried to install flash plug ins here, and it killed my box.
[03:20] <ubuntu> how can i enter in this directory.
[03:20] <theonceandfuture> cool I got the gconf-editor to do it for me. But why isnt there an icon for it in the SYSTEMS menu?
[03:21] <un_operateur1> sudo su  is logged by syslog
[03:21] <levander> n2diy: you're sitting on 8 of what?
[03:21] <ubuntu> Fernando don't spam and told me.
[03:21] <n2diy> levander: Well your living on the edgy, these things will happen.
[03:21] <carutsu> hey by removing libgnome does it remove the option to load a GNOME sesion?
[03:21] <slyboots_> Speaking of media.. I still cant install mplayer from the resource packager, It just cries about the fact Im running on a 64bit OS
[03:21] <wy> somerville32: It doesn't crash now... compatible mode ...
[03:21] <un_operateur1> and sudo su is different to sudo su - .. the former maintains your env .. the latter uses roots
[03:21] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, not really, just switches home folders really (which annoyingly will use a different profile), and it doesn't get logged, which is not good
[03:21] <angel12> hey guys, ive got a question on gnome/beryl. i just installed beryl today (my ati card didnt work until the new drivers) and when im using XGL, all the window decorations look old, as if no config files for the buttons got moved over
[03:21] <ubuntu> FernandoCordes hey don't spam.Told the answer.
[03:21] <jvai> heey, how do i lock the home folder in dapper?, or lock folders in my home dir?
[03:21] <cmweb> ljl, is mysql_connect a mod of some sort, one that does not come with the ther packages?
[03:21] <slyboots_> I tried to install that linux32 libraries but.. does not seem to have done anything
[03:21] <LjL> un_operateur1: still, "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" respectively accomplish either thing quite nicely
[03:22] <DARKGuy> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup here: PCI & AGP cards. PCI one is the one at boot and thus the one in which the Linux terminals are in. I wonder, how can I avoid the secondary monitor (AGP card) to stop blinking grey blocks (which I'm told that's harmful for both the monitor and the card) and just go black like my older Ubuntu install which didn't used to do that?
[03:22] <n2diy> levander: Update is telling me I have eight of them waiting for me, two of them are kernels! Why would I want to install two new kernels?
[03:22] <untony2> w00t
[03:22] <carutsu> no its more likely 2 patcher
[03:22] <carutsu> patches
[03:22] <un_operateur1> Ljl -- yes
[03:22] <wickedly_cool> n00bz
[03:22] <sud0> wickedly_cool: & u r
[03:22] <Jordan_U_> angel12: Beryl does not use your gnome themes by default, use emerald theme manager to change themes
[03:22] <LjL> cmweb, mysql_connect() is just one function in the mysql API for php. it should come with the php mysql module, for all i know. not sure why it doesn't work - perhaps you need an include statement, though i don't on the web server i use
[03:22] <baconbacon> carutsu: http://groups.google.ca/group/ubuntulinux/browse_thread/thread/4944db2281697b8/f09baad106478b94
[03:23] <ubuntu> N2dsy man becouse they are new kernels
[03:23] <jvai> heey, i have a question: how do i lock the home folder in dapper?, or lock folders in my home dir?
[03:23] <slyboots_> Quite funny hearing that from someone called "wickedly_cool"
[03:23] <slyboots_> Was "Acid_Burn" taken?
[03:23] <wickedly_cool> lol
[03:23] <angel12> Jordan_U_, even when i use metacity in XGL the buttons are horrid
[03:23] <carutsu> thank you baconbacon
[03:23] <slyboots_> What was the name of the other guy in that film?
[03:23] <ubuntu> you need to update them
[03:23] <slyboots_> Zero_cool or some crap?
[03:23] <wickedly_cool> n00bzz
[03:23] <un_operateur1> Crash_Override?? :>
[03:23] <cmweb> ljl, well maby this will help. Im installing Zpanel know anything about it, its the beta version
[03:23] <slyboots_> Yea! that was it
[03:23] <wizard> xD nothlit I love how it's illegal for Ubuntu to host the files, but they can direct you to them.
[03:23] <ubuntu> you are noobs
[03:24] <cmweb> ljl, i have php-mysql installed
[03:24] <carutsu> then leaver
[03:24] <carutsu> leave
[03:24] <ubuntu> how to leave
[03:24] <nothlit> wizard, well its more that ubuntu is free, and some places people can't access those files
[03:24] <slyboots_> Anyway, Back to work :(
[03:24] <ubuntu> for example root privilegies
[03:24] <slyboots_> Still cant figure out how to get mplayer to install..
[03:25] <nothlit> !repos > slyboots_
[03:25] <un_operateur1> aptitude install mplayer
[03:25] <wizard> Oh.  Well, I'm just happy they are available.
[03:25] <nothlit> !synaptic > slyboots_
[03:25] <un_operateur1> c'est | pas >
[03:25] <slyboots_> It wont install because Im using the AMD64 release of Ubuntu, It must only want to install on 32bit machines
[03:25] <claudio> hi...i've a problem with my adsl modem "trust speedlink 235a": if i try to connect to internet it doesn't work... so i restart in windows and i connect to internet....then i restart in ubuntu and connection works. what can i do?
[03:25] <carutsu> baconbacon wow you found exactly the topic
[03:25] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:25] <n2diy> ubuntu, why, one of the kernels isn't even appropriate for my box!
[03:25] <slyboots_> I installed that "Linux32" package but it still wont install the mplayer package
[03:26] <un_operateur1> IIRC there is an AMD64 release of mplayer
[03:26] <carutsu> baconbacon: however i think i wont patch my kernel i'm still afraid of
[03:26] <slyboots_> In the package list?
[03:26] <Jordan_U_> LinuxSuks: Please spam elsewhere
[03:26] <un_operateur1> hold on searching ..
[03:26] <claudio> ah i have ubuntu 6.10
[03:26] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:26] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:26] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:26] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:26] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:26] <LinuxSuks> w1nd0wz pwnz j00 4ll
[03:26] <baconbacon> ban ban ban
[03:26] <Jordan_U_> !ops
[03:26] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[03:26] <slyboots_> Jeez, what a child..
[03:26] <fiveiron> uh... ok, uname -r returns "2.6.17-10-386" ... so what would my "apt-get source" line be to install the kernel source??
[03:26] <baconbacon> carutsu, a quick fix is to disable hibernate on low battery
[03:27] <cmweb> LinuxSuks, please keep your commecnts to your self unless you wana fight
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U_: Looks like he took care of himself largely
[03:27] <claudio> hi...i have ubuntu 6.10 and i've got a problem with my adsl modem "trust speedlink 235a": if i try to connect to internet it doesn't work... so i restart in windows and i connect to internet....then i restart in ubuntu and connection works. what can i do?
[03:27] <fiveiron> i've tried everything i can think and none of it works
[03:27] <nothlit> !find source
[03:27] <ubotu> Found: bf-utf-source, gcc-4.1-source, kdepim-kresources, libgtksourceview-common, libgtksourceview-dev (and 129 others)
[03:27] <fiveiron> !find kernel source
[03:27] <ubotu> Found: kernel-package, kernel-wedge, klogd, nfs-kernel-server, nvidia-kernel-common (and 70 others)
[03:27] <carutsu> baconbacon: i will, however i think i might try to fix it in the near future
[03:27] <eddie_> hi
[03:27] <fiveiron> !find kernel-source
[03:27] <ubotu> Found: cpad-kernel-source, kernel-source-2.4.27, wacom-kernel-source, vmware-player-kernel-source, avm-fritz-kernel-source (and 3 others)
[03:27] <Stormx2> claudio: You connecting via ethernet to your modem?
[03:27] <eddie_> how can I uninstall gnome
[03:27] <cmweb> is LinuxSuks registered?
[03:27] <un_operateur1> hmm -- I cant seem to find the 64 bit version of mplayer anymore -- maybe it was phased out
[03:27] <fiveiron> 2.4.27??
[03:28] <slyboots_> Can I not just install the 32bit version?
[03:28] <FernandoCordes> how can i fsck my / fs ?
[03:28] <wizard> nothlit, after the wget and dpkg to install w32codecs, I still can't play WMV.  I followed the link for (if you still can't play WMV click here) and then followed those instructions.  That didn't work either.  Any more ideas?
[03:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell FernandoCordes about fsck | FernandoCordes, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:28] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, it should work
[03:28] <cmweb> damn, LinuxSuks is not
[03:28] <Stormx2> slyboots_: On a 64-bit machine? Yes.
[03:28] <claudio> no...it's an usb modem...i know that ubuntu has problems with usb modems
[03:28] <slyboots_> Yea, but it wont install it
[03:28] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, man fsck
[03:28] <slyboots_> "This package is not designed for this system blah blah.."
[03:28] <augustin_> what's the alternative of service network or /etc/init.d network on Ubuntu???
[03:28] <Stormx2> claudio: Ah. i could never hook mine up.
[03:28] <Stormx2> claudio: Your best bet is ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, you could try building from source
[03:28] <augustin_> what's the alternative of service network or /etc/init.d/network on Ubuntu???
[03:28] <wizard> nothlit, wait.  I understand now.  Some of the WMVs must be corrupted.  I found one that works.  Thanks for the help.
[03:29] <nothlit> fiveiron, linux-source-2.6.17 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches
[03:29] <slyboots_> I guess, Bah..
[03:29] <wims> does it exist a dvd image with the latest ubuntu version ?
[03:29] <nothlit> wizard, you could also install vlc, might work
[03:29] <un_operateur1> augustin_, you mean the service command??
[03:29] <cmweb> ljl, any ideas ive run to my last resort
[03:29] <nothlit> wims, yes, look in the extra/additional downloads
[03:29] <augustin_> un_operateur1: yep
[03:29] <claudio> Stormx2... i've tried....but i don't know what to do
[03:29] <claudio> can u help me?
[03:29] <untony2> w00t
[03:29] <BillyBober09> whyameye, that didnt work can u give me those intructions agian please
[03:29] <Stormx2> claudio: I'll try.
[03:29] <untony2> claudio was problem?
[03:29] <LjL> cmweb, honestly - i'm kind of drunk and confused =) so no
[03:30] <claudio> ok thanks
[03:30] <FernandoCordes> LjL, un_operateur1 thx
[03:30] <cmweb> ljl, thats a first
[03:30] <un_operateur1> augustin_, errm .. i'm not sure -- i have it tho  --
[03:30] <un_operateur1> ls -l `which service`
[03:30] <un_operateur1> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2275 2006-11-09 01:54 /usr/sbin/service
[03:30] <deep> @chuck
[03:30] <deep> oops
[03:30] <LjL> cmweb: hey, nerds sometimes go to the pub too :P not very often, but still
[03:30] <claudio> uh untony...i have ubuntu 6.10 and i've got a problem with my usb adsl modem "trust speedlink 235a": if i try to connect to internet it doesn't work... so i restart in windows and i connect to internet....then i restart in ubuntu and connection works. what can i do?
[03:30] <baconbacon> wims: I don't think it would be very useful, the distro fits on a cd and the universe repository is too big for a dvd
[03:31] <augustin_> un_operateur1: bash: service: command not found
[03:31] <cmweb> ljl, well i havent set one drug in my body nor nicotine and proud of it
[03:31] <untony2> claudio: you got it working alreadY?
[03:31] <carutsu> i'll be back in a minute
[03:31] <wims> nothlit no dvd in alternat as far as i can see
[03:31] <untony2> claudio: you wrote then i restart in ubuntu and connection works
[03:31] <n2diy> claudio: looks like you found the right recipe.
[03:31] <claudio> it works in ubuntu only if i restart in windows first
[03:31] <un_operateur1> augustin_, I've got a perl script that does the equiv of service .. would you like it?
[03:31] <BillyBober09> whyameye, u there?
[03:31] <nothlit> wims, i'll give you a link, gimme a sec
[03:31] <Tonren> Guys, I have a horrible urgent problem and need help
[03:31] <somerville32> wy: Must have been a fluke?
[03:31] <cmweb> claudio ubuntu may not know how to operate it
[03:32] <Stormx2> claudio: Thats kinda odd...
[03:32] <cmweb> claudio try a linux driver
[03:32] <Tonren> I left my computer on until the battery ran out and it tried to hibernate, and now I can't boot into Linux
[03:32] <Tonren> I'm on Windows ont he same laptop right now (I dual-boot)
[03:32] <wy> somerville32: What does fluke mean?
[03:32] <_goofy_> im having problems with changing premissions on a usb HDD
[03:32] <untony2> claudio: you may have to recompile the modules in the kernel to make it working
[03:32] <slyboots_> Anyone heard of this "Automatrix" program for Ubuntu?
[03:32] <claudio> yes....connection works only if i connect in windows first
[03:32] <Tonren> When I try to mount the Linux partition in Windows with Ext2FS, I get a "This drive is not formatted error"
[03:32] <Stormx2> wy: a fluke is an unlikely event
[03:32] <_goofy_> anyone have and thought
[03:32] <baconbacon> !Automatix
[03:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:32] <augustin_> un_operateur1: I just want to restart network service:) but if you want, you may send it to augustin.machacek et gmail dot com :)
[03:32] <cmweb> claudio it really sounds as if ubuntu does not know how to dial the modem
[03:32] <Tonren> It was giving me Error 0x40 when I ran without quiet splash
[03:32] <Stormx2> I'm off to bed...
[03:33] <claudio> the problem is that seems that my modem needs to be initialised by windows in order to work
[03:33] <Stormx2> Night night all.
[03:33] <augustin_> un_operateur1: I'll take a look at it:)
[03:33] <somerville32> wy: by chance
[03:33] <slyboots_> Thanks baconbacon
[03:33] <Tonren> Someone PLEASE help, this is completely awful and I badly need to fix it right away.
[03:33] <un_operateur1> augustin_, i got a better idea -- here's the original service command  http://pastebin.ca/280693
[03:33] <Stormx2> claudio: have you got it all set up in System > Administration > Networking?
[03:33] <wy> somerville32: I wonder if my Windows XP can start in the AHCI mode...
[03:33] <Stormx2> Night all.
[03:33] <claudio> i'm neu to linux world....please tell me what to do
[03:33] <fiveiron> can anyone tell me how to install the kernel source for 2.6.17-10-386?
[03:33] <augustin_> un_operateur1: well, tnx
[03:33] <cmweb> claudio, best bet is to check the fourms
[03:33] <wy> somerville32: I'll reboot to see ... see you!
[03:33] <claudio> stormx2 no...it's usb...so nothing to do in dhcp
[03:33] <Tonren> C'mon guys... this is SO urgent
[03:34] <somerville32> wy: see ya :)
[03:34] <un_operateur1> augustin_, you know what to do with it?
[03:34] <Tonren> It was hanging on /scripts/premount
[03:34] <khaije1> i was researching a way to organize data a little while ago and i found an interesting app but i can't remember the name of it anymore... it had to do with adding tags to files for extra organization, anyone heard of something like this?
[03:34] <claudio> i've just read the forumcmweb
[03:34] <_goofy_> ho do i change premissions on a usb hdd with a vfat file system to be able to read/write no matter im root user or "other"
[03:34] <augustin_> un_operateur1: save it, run it:)
[03:34] <cmweb> claudio, any thing on it?
[03:34] <Stormx2> claudio: Okay. Well have a look anyway.
[03:34] <claudio> no
[03:34] <claudio> :(
[03:34] <un_operateur1> errm .. save it in $PATH .. chmod +x ..
[03:34] <Stormx2> claudio: There should be more options than DHCP
[03:34] <cmweb> claudio, or check the manufacurers site for a  driver
[03:34] <claudio> there's not a driver
[03:35] <claudio> for ubuntu
[03:35] <claudio> :(
[03:35] <Stormx2> But for linux?
[03:35] <robert_> bah
[03:35] <n2diy> claudio: if your new to linux, why are you running bleeding edge software, 6.10? 6.06 is the current stable version.
[03:35] <robert_> I can't compile an smp ubuntu kernel
[03:35] <claudio> uh really n2diy?
[03:35] <augustin_> un_operateur1: I just want to try restarting network service.. if it helps me tu start firewall:)
[03:35] <cmweb> claudio, try for dabean
[03:35] <drkm> LjL: I see why you chose KDE
[03:35] <n2diy> robert: did you try synaptic? I've had no trouble with SMP on this box.
[03:36] <drkm> LjL: there have been a lot of changes since I last used it
[03:36] <un_operateur1> augustin_, /etc/init.d/network restart   should do
[03:36] <n2diy> claudio: yes, really.
[03:36] <claudio> so? no solutions? :(
[03:36] <Tonren> C'mon guys.  Someone PLEASE help with this.  I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.
[03:36] <Tonren> Someone PLEASE help out.  This seriously sucks, this is a code red holy shit emergency.
[03:36] <augustin_> un_operateur1: bash: /etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory
[03:37] <un_operateur1> augustin_, btw -- the package that houses  /usr/sbin/service is   sysvconfig
[03:37] <BillyBober09> whyameye, where are you'
[03:37] <cmweb> Tonren, hardrive may be broken
[03:37] <robert_> it complains about /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1/modules.dep not existing
[03:37] <cmweb> Tonren, due to the crash
[03:37] <un_operateur1> /etc/init.d/networking restart    sorry :p
[03:37] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: could you help me rebuilding my grub?
[03:37] <LjL> drkm: well, that goes for GNOME as well to be fair... and i also find KDE looks horrible by default =) http://ljl.byethost14.com/annotatedkde.png is more like what i set my KDE to look (the post-it colors make it a bit ugly, but still ;)
[03:37] <augustin_> un_operateur1: I am installing that package
[03:37] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, you dual booting ??
[03:37] <un_operateur1> augustin_,  :)
[03:37] <claudio> i don't know what to do....maybe i should change the firmware
[03:37] <claudio> !?
[03:38] <Tonren> cmweb: It's not *broken*, I'm sure, because I booted up onto the same laptop in Windows
[03:38] <wy> somerville32: too bad. Windows XP can't boot now
[03:38] <cmweb> Tonren, how big is the drive?
[03:38] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i tried installing windows over my linux
[03:38] <Tonren> cmweb: 80GB
[03:38] <drkm> I upgraded my NVIDIA drivers to the newest module. The driver works fine for the session, but after I restart the PC I get an error and xwindows doesn't load, for it to work again I have to reinstall the driver.. the error I get is: API mismatch: NVIDIA kernel module has the ver 1.0-7189 but this x module has ver 1.0-9631, make sure the kernel module & nv driver have same version... what should I do?
[03:38] <somerville32> wy: hehe. Enter the command "delete windows, please!" <g>
[03:38] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, and did that succeed?
[03:38] <cmweb> Tonren, same size as mine. How many portions are on it?
[03:39] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: no it didnt
[03:39] <g0tw00d> why would u delete it
[03:39] <Tonren> cmweb: It's partitioned 60GB ext3, 5GB ext3, 512MB linux-swap and about 15GB NTFS
[03:39] <jvai> tonren, try fixing it thru the bootmenu list, as soon as u see grub loading, u may be able to fix the kernel thru that.. i'm not sure
[03:39] <nonick> I am tryingt too change to Xubuntu how can i uninstall gnome desktoip?
[03:39] <Tonren> jvai: I tried booting into single, or with profile, but it isn't working
[03:39] <Tonren> jvai: It's still hanging on premount
[03:39] <g0tw00d> you take away the retarded windows users and its a damn good os
[03:39] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, it has always been better to install windows first since it assumes that the entire HDD belongs to it
[03:39] <Tonren> It gives me "error 0x40"
[03:39] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i allready tried to rebuild it using the grub super disc -. i have my grub boot menu back now but when i select my ubuntu in it, it crashes while the splash is 2 seconds there
[03:39] <n2diy> FernandoCordes: , that is a bad recipe, it best to install Winderes first, and then linux. Winderes doesn't like sharing the hard drive with other OSs.
[03:39] <cmweb> Tonren, why do you need two linux drives?
[03:39] <fiveiron> does someone have a second to help me get a serial port IR receiver working in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <drkm> LjL: yeah it does need a few tweaks. are those post-it nodes part of the theme or for illustration? lol
[03:39] <_goofy_> fdisk -l should give me a list of all my drives......right
[03:39] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i seen that
[03:39] <wy> somerville32: Oh, no
[03:39] <claudio> ah.....how can i write in a ntfs partition? i can just read it
[03:40] <Tonren> cmweb: One for / one for /home
[03:40] <drkm> nodes = notes
[03:40] <somerville32> wy: <g>
[03:40] <somerville32> wy: #windows might be able to help you get Windows to boot
[03:40] <cmweb> Tonren, you really use that much on the desktop?
[03:40] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, i'm not too strong on grub .. let me try and find something for you
[03:40] <FernandoCordes> n2diy: yea i ripped winddddderes off after it destroyed my grub
[03:40] <Tonren> cmweb: I really don't need a lecture on partition philosophy right now
[03:40] <LjL> drkm: they do come from a standard KDE applet... but i don't normally use those, i only used them for illustration. if i used them normally, i'd certainly change the colors ;) (yes they can be changed)
[03:40] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i allready looked up in the wiki but that didn't help
[03:40] <FernandoCordes> tried several things from it
[03:40] <n2diy> gotta go 73 all
[03:41] <claudio> how can ubuntu write in a ntfs partition? i can just read it
[03:41] <FernandoCordes> n2diy: cya
[03:41] <Galaeron> Hey guys, thanks for the awesome help. I got xchat up and running
[03:41] <wastrel> !ntfs
[03:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:41] <cmweb> Tonren, ok i know im loly gaging as usual, maby try installing again, sometimes it does not do right the first time
[03:41] <nonick> wait a minute... so there isn't a way to get rid off gnome-desktop in straight up way?
[03:41] <drkm> LjL: lol.. do you like to stand out by any chance? :p
[03:42] <wastrel> nonick:  uninstall a core gnome component and it should pull everything out with it (?)
[03:42] <dominussuus> I have a question about the upgrade release polices for Ubuntu.  Say that in a release upgrade from, say, Dapper to Edgy there is a regressive bug in one of the packages.  If that bug is subsequently fixed in the next version of that package, how come I have to wait until Feisty to get the fix?
[03:42] <Tonren> cmweb: Dude, I installed it 8 month sago!!!!
[03:42] <BillyBober09> BillyBober09, hey
[03:42] <LjL> drkm: define stand out
[03:42] <nothlit> !ntfs-3g | claudio
[03:42] <ubotu> claudio: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:42] <FernandoCordes> !completegrubrenewalstepbystepwhileloggedintodestroyedsystem
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about completegrubrenewalstepbystepwhileloggedintodestroyedsystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <cmweb> Tonren, you said its not booting re install
[03:42] <drkm> LjL: died black hair, black lipstick? red shoes?
[03:42] <drkm> lol
[03:42] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, how did you manage to install grub the second time around?
[03:42] <DARKGuy> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup here: PCI & AGP cards. PCI one is the one at boot and thus the one in which the Linux terminals are in. I wonder, how can I avoid the secondary monitor (AGP card) to stop blinking grey blocks (which I'm told that's harmful for both the monitor and the card) and just go black or in power save mode?
[03:42] <BillyBober09> HELLO
[03:42] <Tonren> OK guys, I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  It wrote something bogus to my swap partition. When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD to check with gparted and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.
[03:42] <BillyBober09> A
[03:42] <cmweb> ljl, whats going on
[03:43] <LjL> !bot abuse | FernandoCordes
[03:43] <BillyBober09> dunno
[03:43] <ubotu> FernandoCordes: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[03:43] <un_operateur1> lol
[03:43] <un_operateur1> :))
[03:43] <FernandoCordes> !botsnack :-(8
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnack :-(8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <FernandoCordes> !botsnack
[03:43] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:43] <nothlit> !grub > FernandoCordes
[03:43] <BillyBober09> ubotu what do you mean
[03:43] <LjL> drkm: hey, i told you i would *not* normally use those colors for the notes! :P
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what do you mean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <drkm> :p
[03:43] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: with the SGD super grub disc
[03:44] <cmweb> ubotu want a cookie for your hard work?
[03:44] <BillyBober09> ubotu, not sure what you are saying bro
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about want a cookie for your hard work? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not sure what you are saying bro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <cmweb> BillyBober09 IS A BOT
[03:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell BillyBober09 about bot | BillyBober09, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:44] <rajiv_nair> hi:)
[03:44] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, and does windows boot well now?
[03:44] <cmweb> sorry
[03:44] <cmweb> BillyBober09, ubotu is a bot
[03:44] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i ripped it off again
[03:44] <BillyBober09> c
[03:45] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: i decided to say goodbye to the game i wanted to play with it (red alert 2)
[03:45] <un_operateur1> errm .. I dunno if it was ubuntu -- but i recall some distro capable of repairing the bootloader
[03:45] <Tonren> Oh my god... can someone PLEASE help me out here?
[03:45] <cmweb> Any one know a good alternative to wine?
[03:45] <_goofy_> how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"
[03:45] <un_operateur1> as an install mode
[03:45] <BillyBober09> cmweb,ok
[03:45] <LjL> drkm: and for that matter i'm also not a fan of having a ton of icons on the desktop... still, i always end up like that somehow
[03:45] <dominussuus> cmweb - yeah, it's called Windows ;)
[03:46] <hou5ton> working on trying to get my SD Card to show up in Edgy .... looking at forums, not quite understanding .... does someone here know what to do?
[03:46] <BillyBober09> cmweb, wierdtho
[03:46] <cmweb> dominussuus, windows is shit
[03:46] <nonick> wastrel: what would be a Gnome core program?
[03:46] <dominussuus> cmweb - seriously, there's nothing to my knowledge
[03:46] <_goofy_> how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"
[03:46] <cmweb> dominussuus i cant get into it any more due to the damn viruses in it     Not one on this
[03:46] <dominussuus> cmweb - there's crossover office, which is wine with benefits
[03:46] <nonick> cmweb:  I completely agree that m$$ is a piece of sheeeat
[03:46] <BillyBober09> ubo
[03:46] <jvai> nonick - devhelp?
[03:46] <drkm> LjL: lol. yep I know what you mean.. now I've installed KDE I am going to have to spend hours fiddling with fonts and colours *sigh*
[03:47] <BillyBober09> ubotu, i need help
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i need help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <dominussuus> cmweb - but you have to pay for crossover
[03:47] <robert_> does the amd64 version of ubuntu come with smp support in the kernel?
[03:47] <BillyBober09> ubotu, how do i fix my resolution
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how do i fix my resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <rajiv_nair> !ubotu | billybober09
[03:47] <ubotu> billybober09: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:47] <nn> anyone gotten winamp 5 to work in wine?
[03:47] <cmweb> dominussuus, crossover?
[03:47] <robert_> does anybody know here?
[03:47] <nn> Im running windows in emulator just to use window..
[03:47] <Tonren> OK guys, I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  It wrote something bogus to my swap partition. When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD to check with gparted and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.
[03:47] <dominussuus> cmweb - it's called crossover office, Google it
[03:48] <LjL> drkm: well, some hints... if fonts look a bit on the blurry side, go to System Settings / Appearance / Fonts / Configure anti-aliasing and select Full hinting rather than Medium
[03:48] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes,  what Os you on now?
[03:48] <un_operateur1> OS
[03:48] <nn> Tonren: hold one sec
[03:48] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: buntu
[03:48] <angel12> robert_, it might, you might just want to stick with the i386 version though, 64bit is still full of some little problems, like no flash players, little media codecs
[03:48] <dominussuus> could anyone here explain to me post-release updates?
[03:48] <nn> Tonren: my friend just fixed that yesterday, i callin n buggin him
[03:48] <Tonren> nn: Thanks!
[03:48] <Henry_> Hey Ubuntu isn't working at all for me.  I'm trying to install it on a partition on one of my computers.  I burn it exactly according to the burningisos guide on the site, but it still won't boot from the CD.  Any tips?
[03:48] <cmweb> dominussuus, are we talking free here?
[03:48] <LjL> drkm: as for colors, remember that in Appearance / Colors, when you click on the color in "Widget Colors", you can use the color picker and pick a color from *anywhere* on the screens - so if you like you can pick colors from screenshots
[03:49] <robert_> angel12- then help me recompile to enable SMP
[03:49] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, ok, two options -- option 1 -- install grub-disk on this system and write out the floppies .. use the floppies to boot other system -- startup and reinstall grub via update-grub
[03:49] <dominussuus> cmweb - unfortunately not, crossover is commercial... open source, but commercial
[03:49] <angel12> robert_, search synaptic for smp. what proc do you have?
[03:49] <un_operateur1> second option -- use buntu CD in rescue mode to rewrite grub
[03:50] <LjL> drkm: and if you happen to like the top-of-the-screen menu bar, it's right click on the desktop -> Behavior -> "Mac OS style"
[03:50] <cmweb> dominussuus, well that means i cant get it
[03:50] <_goofy_> how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"
[03:50] <LjL> Ubotu, tell _goofy_ about windowsdrives | _goofy_, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:50] <angel12> robert_, and i think that the stock kernel has SMP enabled
[03:50] <cmweb> !hi regeya
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi regeya - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <dominussuus> cmweb - I think there's also a package that lets you install windows within linux
[03:50] <dominussuus> so you can run windows like a program within linux
[03:51] <robert_> model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
[03:51] <LjL> dominussuus: that's two different things
[03:51] <dominussuus> but I can't remember what it's called
[03:51] <cmweb> dominussuus, im broke only 15 years old
[03:51] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: ouai merci
[03:51] <drkm> LjL: genius! saved me about loads of time there! I love how fiddly KDE is, there seems like there is so much to it
[03:51] <nn> Tonren: he said he just booted and mkswap'd the swap partition
[03:51] <FernandoCordes> un_operateur1: bcp
[03:51] <Tonren> nn: I can't boot!!
[03:51] <dominussuus> cmweb - what are you trying to run?
[03:51] <nn> Tonren: there's a kernel option to skip suspend, looking for it
[03:51] <LjL> dominussuus: if you want to *install windows withing linux*, you need an emulator / virtual machine. possibly choices are qemu or vmware (there's vmware-player in the repos)
[03:51] <godtvisken> When I record something in Audacity, there is a really high pitched ringing sound over it..   Low-power hibernate should NOT toast the swap partition!!!
[03:52] <dominussuus> LjL - I know, but cmweb's question was about wine alternatives
[03:52] <tjb891> does anyone know how to enlarge your ubuntu partitian undestructively?
[03:52] <godtvisken> When I record something in Audacity, there is a really high pitched ringing sound over it.. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[03:52] <dominussuus> cmweb - I know this is ubuntu, so I'm asking why you're looking for a wine alternative - what are you trying to run that Wine can't handle?
[03:52] <cmweb> ljl, wine is not always good
[03:52] <LjL> dominussuus: well the alternatives are WINE, Cedega (these are APIs, so applications run inside your X), QEmu, VMware (these are virtual machines)
[03:52] <FernandoCordes> tjb891: i only got destructive experiences with that issue
[03:52] <Toph> i have a question: i have 2 hard drives on my computer, one with linux which i boot from and the other with windows, I want to access the files from the windows HD (hda1) but the drive doesn't show up anywhere. How do i access it? i have tried mounting it, but have failed
[03:53] <un_operateur1> FernandoCordes, no agradecerme todavia  :)
[03:53] <LjL> cmweb: no it isn't. but to get something better, you actually need to install a full-blown Windows on an emulator like vmware
[03:53] <cmweb> dominussuus, diablo2, redaler2, Flight Simulator, and a slew of others
[03:53] <nn> Tonren: trying to find it
[03:53] <khaije1> LjL: dominussuus: Xen also, if yr lucky enough to have a new-ish processor
[03:53] <LjL> cmweb: forget the "seamlessness" of WINE then, though
[03:53] <nn> Tonren: well.. it hibernates to the swap partition
[03:53] <nn> Tonren: only safe place to do it to, really
[03:53] <LjL> khaije1: doesn't Xen needs modified version of guest OSs?
[03:53] <LjL> (and nevermind my "s"'s)
[03:54] <khaije1> LjL: only if the cpu doesn't have h/w support built in, all new ones do (this may not be true yet, but soon)
[03:54] <LjL> khaije1: i see... how "new" is new?
[03:54] <hou5ton> help with mounting the SD Memory Card .... here's what dmesg | tail gave:  [17180826.664000]  tifm_7xx1: demand removing card from socket 3
[03:54] <hou5ton> [17180827.208000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 3
[03:54] <LjL> i.e., what does the CPU need to have?
[03:55] <Tonren> nn: Yeah, but it shouldn't have bricked my boot
[03:55] <Tonren> nn: I hate that hibernate support is so dismal
[03:55] <Music_Shuffle> You use it?
[03:56] <nn> Tonren: it's pretty new code, honestly
[03:56] <nn> Tonren: i can't seem to find the kernel option to tell it not to resume the suspend hrm
[03:57] <nn> Tonren: digging in suspend and kernel sources for ya, hang on
[03:57] <LjL> i'd love to use hibernation even though i don't have a laptop. but, hm, well. "perhaps next release" (as i've said for a year or so already ;)
[03:57] <khaije1> LjL: for amd it's called pacifica, for intel it's called vanderpool
[03:57] <Tonren> LjL: don't bother until you hear it's perfect from a hundred people
[03:57] <LjL> khaije1: hm, i'll try to keep those words in mind when i next look at CPUs
[03:57] <Tonren> LjL: Because right now, it's absolutely horrible
[03:57] <LjL> Tonren, well, it's not like i *never* tried it :)
[03:58] <cmweb> any one know of a remote desktop that alows me to control windows Xp home, i need it becasue my friend is a dimwit
[03:58] <mitchm1> krdc does vnc and windows terminal?
[03:58] <LjL> Tonren: still it never stopped me from booting... at worst, it would hang on suspending or resuming
[03:58] <khaije1> LjL: they are basicaly different implimentations of the same spec, AMD's version is supposedly superior to intel's
[03:58] <LjL> !tsclient | cmweb
[03:58] <ubotu> tsclient: front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 290 kB, installed size 1044 kB
[03:58] <LjL> i think
[03:59] <slyboots_> Okay.. Cant compile Mplayer from Source either..
[03:59] <slyboots_> Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h (see DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html).
[03:59] <Tonren> LjL: Yeah same here
[03:59] <sonicGB> cmweb: uh, that knob on the monitor that says "Brightness"... it doesn't make the user brighter :-/
[03:59] <mitchm1> anyone feel like helping me install edgy? as much as i like sitting in the live cd environment, it's not fun
[03:59] <slyboots_> There is nothing in the FAQ about that error though..
[03:59] <Tonren> LjL: This is exactly the reason I don't tell people to switch to LInux yet... :\
[03:59] <Music_Shuffle> sonicGB, LOL.
[04:00] <LjL> Tonren: well most people who don't have laptops don't use hibernation in my experience anyway (except the ones i've told to...)
[04:00] <nn> ew
[04:00] <mitchm1> ubiquity hangs when i chose manually edit partitions. ubiquity uses 100% cpu, gparted doesn't actually launch although the ubiquity logs say it has
[04:00] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, have you read the INSTALL/README's for the source
[04:00] <slyboots_> Yup..
[04:00] <Tonren> LjL: I code a lot, so it's annoying to serialize my work session every time I have to take a break
[04:00] <Tonren> LjL: But I have to do it anyway because hibernate sux
[04:00] <un_operateur1> they usually tell you what dependencies you need to have installed prior to attempting this build
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> mitchm1: I think that might be a known bug - I seem to remember seeing something of the sort while cruising Launchpad
[04:00] <slyboots_> There is no metnion of that error message, I've tried google as well.. all I find is people asking how to fix it.. :P
[04:01] <LjL> Tonren: let me guess... you code in object oriented languages.
[04:01] <mitchm1> i had a look, and nothing seemed to fit exactly.. some said dosfck took 100% cpu or something
[04:01] <Tonren> LjL: Not exclusively
[04:01] <Tonren> nn: Any luck with that kernel boot option?
[04:01] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, you could install the build dependencies in unbuntu via   apt-get build-dep mplayer
[04:01] <slyboots_> It *wont* let me do that!
[04:01] <mitchm1> a log file i found (apport.log) says "executable does not belong to a package, ignoring"
[04:01] <LjL> Tonren: well, "serialize" seemed to give that away :P
[04:02] <un_operateur1> mind the difference -- this is build-dep not install
[04:02] <slyboots_> Sorry
[04:02] <Tonren> LjL: Hahaha, I hadn't even noticed that I used the word in an unusual context
[04:02] <slyboots_> "Unable to find a source-package for mplayer"
[04:03] <nn> Tonren: it seems it's actually handled by the initd that resume uses, i think
[04:03] <ski-worklap> !beryl
[04:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:03] <hou5ton> ok ... i got my laptop to mount the SD Memory Card with: sudo modprobe tifm_sd      .... how can I make my laptop auto mount a card whenever it insert one?
[04:04] <Tonren> nn: This sucks so furiously
[04:04] <nothlit> !alternate > mitchm1
[04:04] <FernandoCordes> i need to compile a piece of code on a box that is not connected to the internet. how can i get build-essential and all stuff onto it maintaining all dependencies?
[04:05] <un_operateur1> apt-get build-dep mplayer  suggests i install about 30 packages ,,, i dunno why yours fails
[04:05] <levander> FernandoCordes: build-essential and its dependencies are "probably" on the edgy distribution cd, change /etc/apt/source.list to point to the CD and install from there
[04:05] <nn> FernandoCordes: a ubuntu cd?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> FernandoCordes: sudo apt-get built-dep <package>
[04:05] <mitchm1> no chance i can launch a text mode installer from the desktop cd?
[04:06] <FernandoCordes> thanks guys
[04:06] <levander> mitchm1: you can use command line tools from a console, like aptitude and apt-get if that's what you're asking about
[04:06] <un_operateur1> desktop CD ??
[04:06] <nn> ah... I love my HackPuter
[04:06] <levander> un_operateur1: what is your question?
[04:07] <un_operateur1> what is a desktop CD ?
[04:07] <mitchm1> levander: i want to install it from the live cd i have just downloaded, however gparted fails to start and ubiquity hangs. can i do a text install without re-downloading another 600 megs
[04:07] <Jordan_U> mitchm1: No, you need the alternate CD for that
[04:07] <slyboots_> Are you on a 32bit system?
[04:07] <mitchm1> damn
[04:07] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, yes
[04:07] <slyboots_> Im not
[04:07] <levander> un_operateur1: it's a CD that lets you run Ubuntu from the CD, or you can use it to install Ubuntu to your hard disk
[04:07] <nn> it used to be a "thin client" now it runs ubuntu off an 8gb USB thumbdrive raid 0 :P
[04:07] <mitchm1> wait, couldn't be coz i mounted a partition could it?
[04:07] <Tonren> nn: Any luck dude?
[04:07] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, I know -- but the command ought to work nonetheless
[04:07] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, aptitude download packages, and then install them with dpkg
[04:08] <levander> un_operateur1: how did you find freenode if you don't know what a desktop CD is?
[04:08] <slyboots_> Know what. F*** it
[04:08] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, otherwise,theres utilities like apt-zip
[04:08] <slyboots_> Its 3am in the freaking morning
[04:08] <nothlit> !apt-zip
[04:08] <nn> Tonren: not yet :( hibernate wont work for me.. raid0 and usb thumbdrive room :\
[04:08] <FernandoCordes> levander: will i find aircrack-ng on the edgy discs?
[04:08] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:08] <slyboots_> I'll just install 32bit ubuntu..
[04:08] <un_operateur1> levander, i was being sarcastic incase you're misreading me :)
[04:08] <un_operateur1> lol
[04:08] <slyboots_> It would save a lot of hassle I think
[04:08] <nothlit> !minimalcd | mitchm1
[04:08] <nn> It's kinda crazy having my root fs on a thumbdrive, but neat
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about minimalcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <slyboots_> I had the same problems with Windows :P
[04:08] <ce_indigo> huy
[04:08] <levander> FernandoCordes: probably not, i believe aircrack-ng is in the universe repository, which won't be on the CD
[04:08] <un_operateur1> slyboots_, you could try a different player maybe?
[04:08] <slyboots_> God that wa a nightmare..
[04:08] <nn> I just take the thumbdrives + hub with me, and have a portable complete ubuntu
[04:08] <slyboots_> I like mplayer
[04:09] <slyboots_> And this just seems like a warning of things to come ;)
[04:09] <nn> slyboots_: me tooo
[04:09] <nothlit> !minimal | mitchm1
[04:09] <ubotu> mitchm1: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:09] <levander> un_operateur1: people are already clueless enough in this channel, no sarcasm needed here
[04:09] <FernandoCordes> nothlit: where can i find the packages downloaded with aptitude download?
[04:09] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, in whatever directory you were at the time
[04:09] <FernandoCordes> ok
[04:09] <nothlit> !apt-zip | FernandoCordes
[04:09] <FernandoCordes> thx
[04:09] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:09] <slyboots_> Mplayer (When it installs..) does what its told and plays pretty much any format under the sun
[04:09] <un_operateur1> levander, no harm done -- you just misinterpreted the context in which i asked the question
[04:10] <cewe_sexy_bth_be> semarang
[04:10] <un_operateur1> anyway -- a CD that lets you run Ubuntu from the CD --  is a live CD not a desktop CD
[04:10] <slyboots_> Its what my xbox uses, And god damn it does a good job of playing anything I throw at it
[04:10] <nn> Tonren: my suggestion is boot off the live cd again, and mkswap /dev/hdaX where hdaX is the swap partition
[04:10] <nothlit> vlc, actually has more built in codecs btw, slyboots_
[04:10] <FernandoCordes> nothlit: will !apt-zip also download all dependencies?
[04:10] <nonick> what's the package for Disable people? I need the Magnifier please
[04:10] <nn> slyboots_: xbox linux? :P
[04:10] <slyboots_> XMBC
[04:10] <nonick> don't let disable poeple down
[04:11] <LjL> FernandoCordes: /var/cache/apt/archives/ (nothlit: not unless they were source packages i think)
[04:11] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, i'm not sure, but thats what most people would use if you did it normally
[04:11] <ce_indigo> huy
[04:11] <nn> nonick: it's GNOME Accessibility, lemme get a pkg name
[04:11] <LjL> FernandoCordes: it's supposed to do that... also you could try
[04:11] <Jordan_U> un_operateur1: The reason they call their LiveCD a "desktop" CD is so as not to confuse old brezzy users where the LiveCD couldn't install
[04:11] <LjL> !offline | FernandoCordes
[04:11] <ubotu> FernandoCordes: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> nonick: I think you can also enable accessibility stuff from system > preferances
[04:11] <nonick> nn: I would appreciate that
[04:11] <nothlit> LjL, no, if you did --download-only, it would go in /var/cache... but with download it goes into working directory
[04:11] <slyboots_> Okay, Why the hell do I have to update my package list *every* time I open the package manager
[04:11] <un_operateur1> Jordan_U, ahh, i see .. that explains it :)
[04:11] <nonick> tonyyarusso: I am in Xubuntu, I want that package standalone
[04:11] <slyboots_> They cant have gone out of date in the *Few* seconds since I last closed the program
[04:11] <Tonren> OK guys, I left my laptop on and it ran out of batteries and must have tried going into hibernate.  It wrote something bogus to my swap partition. When I rebooted, it hung on Starting /scripts/pre-mount, so I popped in a live CD to check with gparted and my swap partition was no longer properly formatted.  I reformatted it as linux-swap but it's still not booting, and hanging in the same place.
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> nonick: ah, okay
[04:11] <Tonren> Can anyone help out?  I'm desperate.
[04:12] <LjL> nothlit: ah, nice
[04:12] <nonick> Tonren: I am desperate too
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> nonick: gnome-mag - a screen magnifier for the GNOME desktop, xubuntu-at-mag - screen magnifying for Xubuntu
[04:12] <Tonren> nonickWhat happened to you?
[04:12] <nn> AhH! beautiful
[04:12] <nothlit> Tonren, you can delete the partition and recreate it
[04:12] <slyboots_> Not to brag, But I'm desperately good looking
[04:12] <slyboots_> I thought I would just bring that up, since you mentioned it
[04:12] <nonick> ohhhh WOW... tonyyarusso  at XFCE told me they don't have one o.0
[04:13] <Tonren> nothlit: The bogus info will still be there, though
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> nonick: apt-cache search knows the truth ;)
[04:13] <tjb891> do any of you run starcraft on ubuntu?
[04:13] <Tonren> nothlit: Deleting the partition just removes the formatting info.  The data remains.  :\
[04:13] <Tonren> tjb891: I do, it usually runs fine
[04:13] <nothlit> Tonren, you can zero the partition
[04:13] <nonick> tonyyarusso: thanks alot
[04:13] <Tonren> nothlit: Can I do that from gparted?
[04:13] <un_operateur1> "desperately good looking"   -- there could be a better choice of adjective :)
[04:13] <tjb891> Tonren:how do you get it to recognise the CD after it installs with wine?
[04:13] <Tonren> nothlit: Or a live CD, or from Windows?
[04:14] <nothlit> from a livecd, and the command line
[04:14] <Tonren> tjb891: I think I ripped the ISO and mounted it with sudo mount -o loop
[04:14] <nothlit> i messaged it to you because dd commands are dangerous
[04:14] <tjb891> ok
[04:14] <tjb891> ill do that
[04:14] <tjb891> and then i just have to use the unmount command when im done right?
[04:15] <drkm> when setting the font 'fixed width' in the settings in kde/gnome, what does that actually set the font for?
[04:15] <Tonren> nothlit: Yeah, they can be weapons of mass destruction
[04:16] <Tonren> nothlit: Do the drives need to be MOUNTED for dd to be used?
[04:16] <nothlit> no lol
[04:16] <Tonren> nothlit: Oh yeah; it CAN'T work if they're mounted
[04:16] <Tonren> OK i'ma try that out, thanks
[04:17] <nothlit> drkm, for things like the terminal
[04:17] <tjb891> how do i enlarge my ubuntu partitian, I have a gpparted live cd
[04:17] <nothlit> the ubuntu livecd also has gparted on it, you know
[04:17] <tjb891> yeah but gpparted won't let me make my ubuntu parition larger
[04:17] <drkm> nothlit: ahh ok.. do you know why the font list only contains about 5 fonts when all the other fonts you can set contain your whole list?
[04:18] <nothlit> drkm, i'm not sure what you mean
[04:18] <nothlit> !elaborate | dkrm
[04:18] <ubotu> dkrm: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:19] <ubun> i installed all the multimedia stuff from the 'restrictedformat' docs on ubuntu.com but now my videos' sound is out of sync. is there a way to fix this? I tried 'mplayer -framedrop' but it doesnt fix it
[04:19] <sephiron> anyone use dell computer here
[04:19] <ubun> actually sounds starts out ok and by the middle or end of every movie it's way off
[04:19] <drkm> nothlit: say you were setting your 'Menu' font.. it contains all the fonts on your system that you can choose from.. but when setting 'Fixed Width' it only contains a limited selection of your fonts
[04:19] <nothlit> drkm, oh, thats because not all fonts are fixed width
[04:20] <Halitech> sephiron, I've got 1 that runs my server
[04:20] <nothlit> drkm, most aren't actually
[04:20] <tjb891> can anyone explain to be how to mount and unmount .iso images and if there is a gui to do this?
[04:20] <nothlit> drkm, fixed width means all the letters are the same width, so with text, you can line stuff up for things like the terminal
[04:20] <drkm> notbbt: ahh ok that explains a lot, thanks
[04:21] <drkm> nothlit: above was for you.. damn auto complete
[04:21] <sephiron> Halitech:if i buy a dell computer,can i change its part such as ram and graphic crad
[04:21] <sephiron> card
[04:21] <CrookedAsterisk> rofl: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CrookedAsterisk
[04:22] <ubun> coulda told tjb891 but he had no patience :/
[04:22] <godtvisken> is there a simple recording program i could use to see if the problem is just with audacity or somewhere else?
[04:22] <ubun> godtvisken: did you run alsamixer from the terminal and make sure your mic volume is up or whatever
[04:22] <STD> Can somebody helpz me please D:
[04:22] <Halitech> sephiron, it will depend on what you actually buy, the one I have has everything onboard but does have a few PCI slots so I can disable some things and use addon cards but without knowing what machine you are thinking of, hard to say for sure
[04:23] <angel12> hey guys, for some reason, when im running beryl, the icon set doesnt look right, it looks like an older version, not like human
[04:23] <Halitech> STD, I think the doctors have pills for most of your problems ;)
[04:24] <fiveiron> is anyone using lirc?
[04:24] <STD> My sound isn't giving me any bass x_X I tried going into the alsa mixer and making sure all the sliders were showing but there's nothing for base or treble D:
[04:24] <STD> Lol :P
[04:24] <Halitech> sorry STD< just being a smartass
[04:24] <barosl> what donkey client do you use?
[04:25] <nn> #ubuntu gave me an std :|
[04:25] <godtvisken> ubun: my mic works, but i get a high pitched ringing when i try to record in audacity
[04:25] <STD> #ubuntu got my mom pregnant D:
[04:25] <nothlit> !ask | STD
[04:25] <ubotu> STD: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:25] <nothlit> !language
[04:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:25] <Halitech> STD, all other sound works?
[04:25] <STD> Yeah sound works.
[04:25] <STD> I'm just not getting an bass D:
[04:26] <STD> Or if I am it's just a liiiittle bit.
[04:26] <nn> STD: no, that was me, sorry.
[04:26] <STD> Like, if I plug my ipod into my speakers with the sub on mininum that what it sounds like on here with the sub on maximum :P
[04:26] <wastrel> what's sub
[04:26] <STD> subwoofer >_>
[04:27] <nn> anyone wanna donate me an mp3 player that uses a portable harddrive, so when i'm in afghanistan, i can kick it to some toonz?
[04:27] <rajiv_nair> !donation
[04:27] <ubotu> To donate to Ubuntu, you can !participate or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/donations
[04:27] <rajiv_nair> hehe
[04:27] <rajiv_nair> :D
[04:28] <Halitech> STD, not sure, I've never really used much sound on mine
[04:28] <STD> Gah I'm going to die without music D:
[04:28] <nn> rajiv_nair: I donate to ubuntu, in the form of my soon-to-be fully operational DoD CAC card package :)
[04:28] <rajiv_nair> nn: nice:)
[04:28] <nn> rajiv_nair: yessa, i hacked up CoolKey to support the new CAC cards
[04:29] <rajiv_nair> nn: coool
[04:29] <sephiron> Halitech: if i bought a Dell pc that have PCI express card,can i change it later?
[04:30] <Halitech> sephiron, if it's an addon card then I don't see why you wouldn't be able to change it later
[04:30] <angel12> do you guys have any idea what could be wrong with my theme settings in beryl?
[04:30] <nn> rajiv_nair: Yea, got tired of only windows CAC stuff :|
[04:30] <rajiv_nair> angel12: ur theme settings are in emerald.not beryl:)
[04:31] <nn> rajiv_nair: altho it seems i have to install windows on here and run ubuntu in colinux, so i can have winamp 5
[04:31] <niu> where can i get the solution about ubuntu usplash?
[04:31] <angel12> rajiv_nair, i have looked in emerald, and changed things around, but the only thing that changes is the title bar
[04:31] <Alakazamz0r> hello all!
[04:31] <Alakazamz0r> Anyone need any help, MSG me.
[04:31] <Alakazamz0r> i'll be happy to help
[04:31] <rajiv_nair> angel12: goto system->preferences->themes
[04:31] <angel12> rajiv_nair, ive done that too
[04:31] <godtvisken> Uhm.
[04:32] <niu> Alakazamz0r need help
[04:32] <rajiv_nair> angel12: wat xactly is the prob?? :D
[04:32] <tjb891> could anyone here please tell me how to resize me ubuntu partition with gpparted?
[04:32] <niu> Alakazamz0r i can't use the usplash screen in my edgy!
[04:32] <godtvisken> nothlit: Since when did pregnancy become inappropriate?
[04:32] <STD> Uhhhg I don't even have bass or treble control in alsamixer what the hell? Is this something wrong with my card?
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> godtvisken: Since it's not an ubuntu support question.
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[04:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:32] <angel12> rajiv_nair, i dont really know how to explain it lol, the icon sets in the menu's arent what they are in regular x, not the ones for the human theme
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> !pm | Alakazamz0r
[04:33] <ubotu> Alakazamz0r: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:33] <rajiv_nair> ohh
[04:33] <godtvisken> anyways, I get a high pitched ringing noise when i try to record in audacity. what could be wrong? it was working before, i think before i updated to edgy
[04:33] <rajiv_nair> select human theme in sys->pref->themes
[04:33] <rajiv_nair> click on theme details
[04:33] <rajiv_nair> and select human from icon themes
[04:33] <angel12> rajiv_nair, ive done that, it still doesnt do anything
[04:34] <jvai> heey, i have a question: how do i lock the home folder in dapper?, or lock folders in my home dir?
[04:35] <nn> mpan: i envy you
[04:36] <nn> finland's so pretty...
[04:36] <rajiv_nair> angel12: u sure that human is select as ur icon theme in theme details??
[04:36] <un_operateur1> jvai, lock folders?? to prevent access to them?
[04:36] <angel12> rajiv_nair, yeah, im sure
[04:37] <rajiv_nair> angel12: on an xtra note...dwnld aero icon themes.......aero and vista sux..but the icons luk cool:D
[04:37] <Capslock118> do i need to do something special for x64 edgy and cedega?
[04:38] <Frogger> hi does anybody have an idea why i can only start nfs on client by this command --> mount -a  <-- http://paste.debian.net/18487
[04:38] <rapid> Capslock118, probably a 64 bit processor
[04:38] <rajiv_nair> lol
[04:38] <niu> need help for the usplash!
[04:39] <Frogger> instead of    mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/and so on and so  /and so on
[04:39] <jvai> yes un_operateur1.. i hava pron folder.. & my gtirls usaing my box more & more.. lol
[04:39] <TangBaBa> Can someone point me  to a walkthough that might help me getting my video performance up to par? I can play games with decent detail and frame rate, but on linux everything crawls.
[04:39] <niu> screen init failed
[04:40] <cmweb> Does any one know of a program thats both windows and linux compatibal that allows remote control of desktops
[04:40] <Frogger> TangBaBa    grafic card?
[04:40] <rapid> TangBaBa, install the right driver for your gfx device
[04:40] <TangBaBa> I'm using a Radeon X300
[04:40] <TangBaBa> ATI.
[04:40] <un_operateur1> jvai, make seperate  users for other people -- they wont be able to get into your home folder at all
[04:41] <Frogger> !ati
[04:41] <rajiv_nair> !ATI | tangbaba
[04:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <ubotu> tangbaba: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <ThePub> is there such a thing as desktop scaling w/o installing and using accelleration?
[04:41] <TangBaBa> I've tried installing the ATI driver from Synaptic, and even installed the linux driver from ATI but I don't see any real difference.
[04:41] <TangBaBa> Thanks!
[04:41] <TangBaBa> I'll check it out!
[04:41] <cmweb> Does the ati come with the ubuntu package?
[04:41] <ThePub> TangBaBa: xorg radeon drivers are pretty good depending on the vintage of your card.
[04:41] <rajiv_nair> tangbaba: wat does fglrxinfo tell u
[04:41] <rajiv_nair> ??
[04:42] <angel12> cmweb, what do you mean?
[04:42] <cmweb> is it already installed in ubuntu i have an ATI
[04:42] <jvai> yes un_operateur1.. i knoo, bot i'm in my account moreso than not... on the weeknds.. we switch boxes alot.. & she's learning gnome more & more
[04:42] <angel12> cmweb, an ati what? video card?
[04:42] <cmweb> Yes
[04:42] <Halitech> cmweb, vnc works on both linux and windows
[04:43] <jvai> if i cant lock the home dir, how can i lock certain folders in it?
[04:43] <un_operateur1> jvai .. even so .. make seperate users on the same machine -- another user may not enter your home dir unless you delegate permissions
[04:43] <angel12> cmweb, you have to get th fglrx driver
[04:43] <cmweb> angel12, copy
[04:43] <drkm> when configuring fonts in gnome/kde what is the font section which determines the font for your filenames in naturlis for example 'Fixed Width' sets the font type for your terminal
[04:43] <cmweb> vnc?
[04:43] <cmweb> !vnc
[04:43] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:44] <jesusfish> are there any good free Linux control panel options like Plesk (other than Webmin)?
[04:44] <cmweb> Halitech, my friend would never understand how to insstall ssh
[04:44] <jvai> aaar, so it's not posible..? she has an account on this box, but if she ewants to use it in a flash, just for the browser.. is logging out efficient?
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> jvai: Just don't allow other users read priviledges on the folder.
[04:45] <jvai> but how? by locking them right?
[04:45] <Halitech> cmweb, don't have to use ssh and it's usually installed by default on linux, it doesn't exist in windows
[04:45] <cmweb> !Freenix
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Freenix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <un_operateur1> jvai .. well, you can lock your folders using chmod -- but if a user really wanted to get into a directory, thre'd be no problem
[04:45] <drkm> anyone?
[04:45] <factboy818181> Hi, is there some sort of a GUI for the package diff?
[04:45] <cmweb> Halitech, so where does one download for windows
[04:45] <un_operateur1> unless you chmodded using root
[04:45] <factboy818181> it's a file comparer
[04:45] <jvai> ok
[04:45] <cmweb> !freenx
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> jvai: with chmod, just removing the read bit
[04:45] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:45] <Halitech> cmweb, which way are you wanting to make the connection, from windows to linux or linux and controlling the windows box?
[04:45] <un_operateur1> factboy818181, aptitude search diff
[04:46] <cmweb> Controlling the Windows hehe
[04:46] <TangBaBa> Agh.
[04:46] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Did you try that before you suggested it? =P 1264 results.
[04:46] <jvai> is chmod like.. password protecting the folders?
[04:46] <Halitech> cmweb http://www.tightvnc.com/
[04:46] <un_operateur1> factboy818181, aptitude search diff | less    then :)
[04:46] <TangBaBa> OK- I am following the steps on the BinaryDriverHowTo.
[04:46] <jvai> that's what i want
[04:46] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: The fact remains that you can't really get anything useful out of such a large list of diverse packages.
[04:46] <ski-worklap> what's a good laptop vendor that sells 100% free software compatible hardware?
[04:47] <factboy818181> ok
[04:47] <TangBaBa> When I tried this command (glxinfo |grep direct), I was booted from the desktop to my login screen.
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> ski-worklap: system76.com seems promising
[04:47] <factboy818181> i'll try that :D
[04:47] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: He was asking if anyone specifically new a good one they could recommend. What you did is essentially telling him to google it.
[04:47] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, you can always grep in on what you want :)
[04:47] <Frogger> hello. does anybody know why i can open whats inside this --> http://paste.debian.net/18487      only with mount -a    instead of mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ and so on  / and so on
[04:47] <ski-worklap> tonyyarusso, i've seen that before, i think... thanks
[04:47] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, do you know of one ?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> ski-worklap: (if you get one, tell me how it is ;) )
[04:47] <Halitech> ski, check out system76.com
[04:47] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Not for gnome, no.
[04:47] <h0ndaracer2> hey people
[04:47] <ski-worklap> dern, no 17" ers
[04:48] <jvai> hey ppl.. starbucks is closing ty  all.. gn
[04:48] <un_operateur1> neither do i -- but i can point him in a direction where he might get lucky, no? :)
[04:48] <factboy818181> well, the reason why i want a good GUI is that I got used to WinMerge, as it allowed copy and paste compare
[04:48] <h0ndaracer2> i downloaded a file and its in rpm how can i extract it
[04:48] <cmweb> Halitech, ok so what do i do to connect to it
[04:48] <Frogger> i meant cant
[04:48] <factboy818181> instead of saving the files to your hard drive
[04:48] <Frogger> hello. does anybody know why i cannot open whats inside this --> http://paste.debian.net/18487      only with mount -a    instead of mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ and so on  / and so on
[04:48] <factboy818181> h0ndaracer2: sudo apt-get install alien
[04:48] <un_operateur1> Frogger, why does the latter command fail??
[04:48] <h0ndaracer2> ok thanks
[04:48] <factboy818181> after that, alien the file
[04:48] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: I'm just saying that maybe you should offer advice which is more helpful. :)
[04:48] <cmweb> Halitechyou say i already have it, my friend is downloading and i duno how to connect
[04:49] <ski-worklap> ooh they ship with ubuntu too
[04:49] <Halitech> you would need to get it installed and running on the windows box, then you set up a password and then from ubuntu you connect to the ip address either with terminal server client or using firefox
[04:50] <h0ndaracer2> thanks factboy
[04:50] <Frogger> un_operateur1    it says unknown file system
[04:50] <Halitech> or you can do what I did for my parents windows box, set up a dynu account and run the client as well on the windows box and then you can connect to winblows.dynu.com
[04:50] <factboy818181> hope that helped ;)
[04:51] <un_operateur1> Frogger, what's the exact command used?
[04:51] <Frogger> sorry, that was wrong
[04:51] <Frogger> it says no permission
[04:51] <factboy818181> on a side note, has anyone successfully gotten Photoshop to work with WINE on edgy?
[04:52] <un_operateur1> arrenlex,  aptitude search diff | wc -l  : 42
[04:52] <un_operateur1> I dont see why you got 1200 odd results
[04:52] <brohken> can someone help me out... im looking to buy a laptop and want to know if the specs for it are compatible with ubuntu/beryl... but the ubuntu website doesn't have some of the stuff listed on it's compatibility list
[04:52] <Halitech> factboy818181 haven't tried photoshop but paint shop rfom jasc works pretty good
[04:53] <un_operateur1> and if someone cant weed through 42 easy-to-read results ...I doubt they'd be easy to please
[04:53] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Oh. aptitude's searche matches in package name only, whereas apt-cache search also matches the descriptions.
[04:53] <Frogger> un_operateur1        sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.xxx.xxx:/ serverdirectory / clientdirectory
[04:53] <un_operateur1> Frogger, what was the exact command you used?
[04:53] <un_operateur1> ok
[04:53] <Halitech> brohken, what laptop are you looking at?
[04:53] <brohken> dell 6400
[04:54] <Frogger> http://paste.debian.net/18487
[04:54] <nn>         Gemplus GXP3 64V2N
[04:54] <nn>         U.S. Department of Defense Common Access Card (DoD CAC)
[04:54] <nn> From ubuntu, with love! :)
[04:54] <un_operateur1> Frogger, it looks ok
[04:54] <slyboots_> Does Ubuntu (Default install) come with any sort of Firewall?
[04:54] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, did you see me suggest apt-cache search at all??
[04:55] <brohken> there's a sweet deal out for it. $650 - This Dell Small Business Inspiron 6400 (equivalent to the Dell Home Inspiron E1505) is just $649 right now with 1.6Ghz Intel Core Duo Processor T2050, 15.4" WXGA TFT with TrueLife ($10 value), 128MB ATI Radeon X1300 video ($49 value), 1GB DDR2 SDRAM ($65 value), 120GB HD ($55 value), and 8x DVD+/-RW dual layer burner ($35 value)!  If I delete something, it does not show up in the trash, however it DOES show up in the trash through the terminal. I can perminantly delete stuff from the trash IN the terminal, but it doesnt show at all in the GUI....does anyone know what I can do about this?
[04:56] <Halitech> then look at system76.com
[04:56] <kambei> Can any one point me in the right direction... I have several machines and I want to use one machine to authenticate user logins and possibly to host the home directories.  What am I looking for, exactly?
[04:56] <kuto> hi
[04:56] <kuto> what is the free version of matlab
[04:56] <Halitech> nn , why do you need winamp?
[04:56] <un_operateur1> Frogger, have you verified permissions on both share and mount point?
[04:56] <kuto> is it octave?
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> kuto: maxima
[04:56] <CalJohn> nn: for winamp?  if there was ever an inferior program.  why exactly?
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> kuto: octave too
[04:56] <jakub_> hi everyone
[04:56] <jakub_> i'm interested in voice / speech command of utilities on my desktop or even from the command line. is there anything that anyone can particularly recommend as good?
[04:56] <DBO> brohken, we are not your marketing targets, no more pasting ads
[04:56] <nn> CalJohn: the media library is great
[04:56] <CalJohn> nn: tried amarok?
[04:57] <kuto> tonyyarusso: do you know if it is available in ubuntu?
[04:57] <Frogger> Capslock118      View   ---->   show hidden files
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> kambei: Edubuntu has a lot of that in its core
[04:57] <nn> CalJohn: ya, just not the same love
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> kuto: yes, both I believe.
[04:57] <Halitech> nn: try xmms, amarok, rthymbox
[04:57] <kambei> tonyyarusso: But, generally speaking, what facilitates that?
[04:57] <CalJohn> nn: winamp is a pretty nasty program, imo :p  you're on your own.
[04:57] <Frogger> but wouldnt swear to it
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> kambei: The #edubuntu folks would know more about the components (IOW - I don't remember)
[04:57] <brohken> DBO: i was posting the specs for the system I want
[04:57] <kambei> tonyyarusso: Thanks, I will ask them.
[04:57] <drkm> when configuring fonts in gnome/kde what is the font section which determines the font for your filenames in naturlis for example 'Fixed Width' sets the font type for your terminal
[04:57] <brohken> maybe if you read...
[04:58] <DBO> brohken, sorry I missed your convo on scrollback, even still try linking next time instead of posting the whole ad
[04:58] <Capslock118> Frogger: nice, that works enough, but also, how come it does not show up in the trash bin on screen?
[04:58] <brohken> DBO, k
[04:58] <un_operateur1> Frogger, does mounting from within a root shell make a difference?   sudo su - ; mount -t nfs ...
[04:59] <Frogger> Capslock118    that i dont know either, maybe it has nothing to do with
[04:59] <jakub_> anyone know of some speech -> desktop controlling utilities that work well? even for command line
[04:59] <Frogger> your trash
[04:59] <Frogger> on desktop bin
[04:59] <kuto> tonyyarusso: is matlab available in ubuntu
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> kuto: Not in repos, but yes, Matlab sells a linux version
[05:00] <docmur> hello all
[05:00] <KristanoEsperant> hi
[05:00] <KristanoEsperant> i need a bit of help
[05:00] <docmur> I have a problem with the dapper live cd installer
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> docmur: Why are you online as root, pray tell?
[05:00] <arrenlex> !ask | KristanoEsperant
[05:00] <ubotu> KristanoEsperant: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:00] <un_operateur1> !anyone
[05:00] <h0ndaracer2> will someone assist me on installing java
[05:00] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:00] <docmur> ???I shouldn't be
[05:00] <docmur> but whatever
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> docmur: Oh, live cd. Okay.
[05:00] <ski-worklap> system76.com looks good, but unfortunately they don't have enough options yet
[05:00] <docmur> this is my sis and bro's comp
[05:00] <docmur> I need to install linux
[05:00] <kuto> tonyyarusso: do you know if it would install in ubuntu is it rpm or bin package?
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> kuto: No idea
[05:01] <docmur> when I boot the live cd and click in the installer it crashes
[05:01] <KristanoEsperant> can anyone tell me how to put WinXP and Ubuntu on the same computer?
[05:01] <Halitech> docmur, running as root will allow anyone to take over an do nasty things to your computer
[05:01] <docmur> how would I fix this
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | KristanoEsperant
[05:01] <ubotu> KristanoEsperant: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:01] <docmur> no my name is root
[05:01] <un_operateur1> kuto, I'd imagine it'd be in a source tarball
[05:01] <h0ndaracer2> just partion you hard drive kristano
[05:01] <Frogger> Capslock118    that i dont know either, maybe it has nothing to do with your trashcan on desktop
[05:01] <un_operateur1> sorry -- binary tarball
[05:01] <KristanoEsperant> thanks a lot :D
[05:01] <Frogger> un_operateur1   what do u mean
[05:01] <docmur> so is therw a way to update the installer ???
[05:01] <docmur> on the live cd
[05:01] <jakub_> Halitech: although i agree running as root is not a good idea, a) he's on a livecd and b) what's the probability he can get easily rooted from freenode?
[05:02] <kuto> thanks
[05:02] <un_operateur1> even if it came as a .rpm .. you could always install it using alien
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> un_operateur1: alien's not really safe though
[05:02] <Halitech> jakub, I had typed it in before I saw he was on a livecd and b, not likely but who knows where else he is at the moment?
[05:02] <un_operateur1> i know -- i'll let you explain why alien isnt safe :)
[05:03] <wastrel> i used to use alien
[05:03] <crzygrndpa> Are there any guides for installing fastCGI or fcgid onto Ubuntu?
[05:03] <docmur> ???
[05:03] <docmur> anyhelp
[05:04] <TangBaBa> Thanks for that link guys! That was exactly what I was looking for!
[05:04] <Halitech> docmur, did you download and burn the cd yourself? what do you have for a system?
[05:04] <docmur> ya this is a burned cd but the cd works on my rez comp
[05:04] <docmur> this system
[05:04] <TangBaBa> I was wondering if you have anymore links on how I might be able to get Xgl, Compiz, and Beryl running on Edgy Eft?
[05:04] <docmur> 1500+ XP with 256 MB ram
[05:04] <docmur> 40 GB drive
[05:04] <nn> Microsoft Windows Vista, now available on 64bit platforms for only the mere cost of your soul.
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> !xgl | TangBaBa
[05:05] <ubotu> TangBaBa: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:05] <TangBaBa> Thanks!
[05:05] <Halitech> docmur did you burn it in windows?
[05:05] <docmur> yes
[05:05] <docmur> sadly
[05:05] <ski-worklap> is vista 64-bit only?
[05:05] <Halitech> docmur what speed did you burn it at?
[05:05] <jakub_> ski-worklap: no
[05:06] <docmur> I don't remember it was a while ago way before edgy, this cd works on my comp
[05:06] <ski-worklap> oh nice, no vista for xmas
[05:06] <docmur> I would guess at 52x
[05:06] <ppj> Hi, isn't there a Ubunutu install DVD? I can't find it on the site
[05:06] <brohken> anyone have the link to ubunutu's laptop compatibility list?
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> ppj: There is.  Should be around somewhere....
[05:06] <ValMarko> Is Vista a good choice or Ubuntu still better ?
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> brohken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:07] <Halitech> docmur, might be the cd doesn't like the highspeed burn, try burning another one at 4x
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> ValMarko: That's likely to be an !offtopic sort of discussion.
[05:07] <brohken> tonyyarusso, thanks
[05:07] <ppj> Thanks
[05:07] <docmur> why would a high speed burn cause it not to work
[05:07] <h0ndaracer2> whats the differnece between linux self extracting and linux rpm self extracting
[05:07] <Halitech> docmur, might just be a fussy cd
[05:07] <ValMarko> yes :) you're right
[05:08] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: i take it that has to do with java packages? linux self-extracting would be .bin and linux rpm would be rpm based (by the Redhat people)
[05:08] <docmur> Yes but the cd works on my other comp
[05:08] <docmur> ???
[05:08] <docmur> that makes no sence
[05:08] <h0ndaracer2> what would i get
[05:08] <Pie-rate> Flash doesn't quite work right in firefox under linux, is there any way to get a more recent version of it?
[05:08] <docmur> then the burn must be good
[05:09] <h0ndaracer2> yes its jave related
[05:09] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: get the .bin package
[05:09] <h0ndaracer2> ok
[05:09] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: Dowload flash 9 beta 2 from labs.adobe.com
[05:09] <docmur> but I'll try it\
[05:09] <docmur> thanks
[05:09] <brohken> ok so I want to get the Dell 6400 and run ubuntu with Beryl on it. Based on this page do you think it will be very compatible with Ubuntu: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400?highlight=%28laptop%29%7C%28dell%29
[05:09] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: though you can also build java from source, not like you'll be a speed increase with... java
[05:09] <cmweb> can some one please help me out here, i want the windows to be the server, and i need to tap in to do a control remote desktop control
[05:09] <ski-worklap> vnc?
[05:10] <Halitech> docmur, just because it works on 1 cdrom doesn't mean it will work on another. I had 1 cd rom that wouldn't read a cd but another would on the same system
[05:10] <h0ndaracer2> i need help with installing this java from their website
[05:10] <jakub_> cmweb: what version of windows is this running?
[05:10] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: dude, seriously, what is so difficult? download the file and extract it...
[05:10] <un_operateur1> you can use rdesktop/tsclient to use Windows remote desktop
[05:10] <cmweb> jakub_, according to my friend its win xp home
[05:10] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: and ubuntu packages java up nicely, so there's no need to have to go there
[05:10] <jakub_> cmweb: is this *your* computer..?
[05:10] <Halitech> cmweb, did thet get tightvnc downloaded?
[05:10] <h0ndaracer2> ok so apt-get install java
[05:10] <h0ndaracer2> sometin like that
[05:10] <cmweb> No hes a dim wit and i need to get in,
[05:11] <Phlosten> heh
[05:11] <cmweb> Halitech, yes he has no idea what to do
[05:11] <h0ndaracer2> ok nm u dont got answer tat
[05:11] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: apt-cache search packagegoeshere, now you'll never have to ask "how do i install <x>?"
[05:11] <Halitech> cmweb, did he install it yet?
[05:11] <brohken> ok so I want to get the Dell 6400 and run ubuntu with Beryl on it. Based on this page do you think it will be very compatible with Ubuntu: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400?highlight=%28laptop%29%7C%28dell%29
[05:11] <cmweb> Halitech, yes
[05:11] <jakub_> h0ndaracer2: i believe it's sun-jdk-1.5 or something, but i'm not even on ubuntu right now
[05:11] <cmweb> , he does not know what to do
[05:11] <cmweb> Halitech
[05:12] <caminomaster> hi
[05:12] <Halitech> cmweb, does he have it running and has he set a password yet?
[05:12] <cmweb> Halitech, and nether do i
[05:12] <caminomaster> how can i restart esd?
[05:12] <cmweb> Halitech, he does not know how to do that
[05:12] <jakub_> cmweb: well then i guess vnc is the best you can do because windows xp professional and the windows server variants all come with some sort of remote desktop / microsoft terminal services client. regardless, this is a question for ##windows, so take it there
[05:12] <ski-worklap> brohken, based on that page, looks pretty decent. but why do you need me to say so?
[05:13] <n_i_c_k> caminomaster: killall esd; esd
[05:13] <Pie-rate> arrenlex: my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory contains flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so, should i remove the flashplayer.xpt before overwriting libflashplayer.so with the flash 9 beta 2 version?
[05:13] <bruenig> Pie-rate, yes
[05:13] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: Yes.
[05:13] <Halitech> cmweb http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[05:13] <cmweb> dont send me their please i hate windows, I despise them
[05:13] <ivx> hey i am trying to open a program, and it isn't working. when i try to launch it from terminal it says: Applications can not close shared connections.  Please fix this in your app.  Ig what's that deal with this?
[05:14] <caminomaster> n_i_c_k, $ esd?
[05:14] <cmweb> Halitech, whats my username to login to VNC
[05:14] <brohken> ski-worklap, im a noob. just wanna make sure I'm not missing anything
[05:14] <bruenig> ivx, obviously the program in question might be of help
[05:14] <n_i_c_k> caminosmaster: not sure I understand your question
[05:14] <ivx> bruenig, sreem
[05:14] <ivx> bruenig, screem
[05:15] <raize> hi, asked yesterday but everybody seemed busy.  does ubuntu support epson printers from japan?
[05:15] <jakub_> cmweb: ... it's not a windows channel
[05:15] <ivx> raize, what printer is it
[05:15] <raize> i have an epson pm-a850 all-in-one
[05:15] <arrenlex> raize: I suggest you check on linuxprinting.org
[05:15] <bruenig> ivx, ah who needs that, just use vim :D
[05:16] <caminomaster> n_i_c_k, I mean, only "esd" will work?
[05:16] <ivx> bruenig, i'll just try that i guess
[05:16] <ski-worklap> brohken, it looks like getting the display to its maximum resolution will be a pain in the rear
[05:16] <Pie-rate> Still doesn't quite work properly... here's an example: jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/screenshot.png please excuse the 2560x1024 png file, i'm too lazy to resize it =/
[05:16] <n_i_c_k> caminomaster: Sure.  Tho you might prefer "esd &", which will leave it running in the background.
[05:16] <jakub_> Pie-rate: you work at that resolution?
[05:16] <ski-worklap> but if you're happy to do 1280x1024 for awhile until you get that figured out, sounds god
[05:16] <magic_ninja> is there a regular floppy that will allow me to do a netinstall (i dont have a cdburner on this other machine and i gotta install ubuntu on another machine)
[05:17] <ivx> raize, do you have the printer?
[05:17] <Pie-rate> jakub: yes
[05:17] <caminomaster> n_i_c_k, I've restarted esd (my ears hurt: I have earphones :P)
[05:17] <caminomaster> thanks
[05:17] <mhu> brohken: if u have radeon x1400 u wont be able to run beryl with Xorg, only with XGL which sux coz XGL doesnt support 3d acceleration with that mobile card so u better wait for the ati proprietary drivers support in DRI
[05:17] <n_i_c_k> caminomaster: ah those beeps can be a little loud, it's true
[05:17] <cmweb> im in a world of hurt
[05:17] <Halitech> cmweb I don't know, it should be in the documentation or when he is installing it should ask what to use
[05:17] <cmweb> any one wana talk to him
[05:17] <jakub_> Pie-rate: that's awesome
[05:18] <bruenig> magic_ninja, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:18] <cmweb> any one use yahoo
[05:18] <cmweb> Halitech, use yahoo?
[05:18] <Halitech> cmweb nope
[05:18] <Pie-rate> yeah i've got a dual monitor setup, i'm thinking of selling the 3 17" mismatched LCDs i own and buying 2 acer 19" 2ms response LCDs
[05:18] <Pie-rate> but meh, too much work.
[05:18] <cmweb> ;-(
[05:18] <raize> ivx; yes i have it
[05:19] <magic_ninja> bruenig: i read that, it helped but i'm not quite sure as the best booting method...burning a cd is not an option
[05:19] <h0ndaracer2> i cant figure it out
[05:19] <jakub_> Pie-rate: i work on three 21" flat panels: one for coding, one for web browsing, and one for e-mail. no way i'm going back :)
[05:19] <bruenig> magic_ninja, I think there is some way to do it with the debian net install floppy thing, google around for that perhaps
[05:19] <Pie-rate> jakub_: i hate you.
[05:19] <n_i_c_k> jakub_: what is your graphics card?
[05:19] <Pie-rate> :P
[05:20] <magic_ninja> bruenig: ok, thx
[05:20] <arrenlex> jakub_: Can you do all those things at the same time? =P If not, what difference does it make if it's on another monitor or in your taskbar/
[05:20] <arrenlex> ?
[05:20] <Halitech> cmweb, just checked and should only need a password
[05:20] <cmweb> ok
[05:20] <ivx> well raize plug it in and see
[05:20] <cmweb> Halitech, what do i use to connect to him?
[05:20] <cmweb> Halitech, i got a password
[05:21] <Pie-rate> jakub_: check this out: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=489296
[05:21] <Halitech> cmweb, you need his ip address and if he has a router, it will need to be configured to allow access past to the computer
[05:21] <raize> ivx, it is plugged in, and works very well in windows :), it's the only thing i'm concerned about if i switch to ubuntu
[05:21] <cmweb> Halitech, i got that and a password
[05:22] <ivx> raize, do you have ubuntu install yet?
[05:22] <caminomaster> I have an important question: I've heard that is easy to "override" root password, then it makes me fear
[05:22] <raize> no, i currently haven't gotten anything
[05:22] <Halitech> cmweb, just go to http://ipaddress:5802 and it should connect
[05:22] <jakub_> Pie-rate: that is sweet
[05:22] <ppj> caminomaster, you need physical access
[05:22] <ivx> raize, it is a live cd, boot from the cd and see,
[05:22] <ppj> caminomaster, if you have physical access its easy as hell.
[05:22] <raize> ah, well that'll do it
[05:22] <jakub_> n_i_c_k: http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/th2go/home.php
[05:22] <ivx> raize i think printing should work
[05:23] <sk4nK> Hi, I just a "security update" from the update manager, and when I restarted, my nvidia module failed to load. I haven't been able to get it going, is there any chance this is a known problem? or a log that can show me what was upgraded?
[05:23] <ppj> caminomaster, you just single user it and pswd root
[05:23] <raize> it's the scanning i'm actually worried about :)
[05:23] <jakub_> arrenlex: i can afford it and i have the desktop space for it, so why not?
[05:23] <raize> thanks for the common sense though, i'll try that and check back if (when) i have problems
[05:23] <Halitech> sk4nk, there is info on the forum site about that
[05:23] <caminomaster> ppj, there's no way to avoid it?
[05:23] <ivx> raize, wait a sec
[05:23] <raize> waiting
[05:23] <ppj> caminomaster, where is the server?
[05:23] <ivx> raize, do you know how to install a printer
[05:23] <sk4nK> thanks.
[05:24] <n_i_c_k> jakub_: thanks.  I had vaguely heard of those.  They really work huh?  I shall read more about them.
[05:24] <raize> on a linux platform?
[05:24] <raize> i'll go with no, since it'll be my first time.
[05:24] <cmweb> halitech, im connectiong to his ip and nothing
[05:24] <jakub_> n_i_c_k: yeah, it took some fudging though. i can't do accelerated graphics for some reason though. i'll have to figure it out when i get some time
[05:24] <ivx> raize when you boot up go to system>administration>printing, you can swing it from that
[05:25] <Halitech> cmweb dooes he have a router?
[05:25] <cmweb> halitech, you try <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <raize> excellent.  thanks a lot, i'll download the live cd now and give it a shot
[05:25] <ivx> raize, alright have fun, also try to google your printer model then the word ubuntu,
[05:25] <Geoffrey2> is there a command or application that will display all the modes my video chip supports?
[05:26] <cmweb> halitech, he says only a cable modem
[05:26] <jakub_> cmweb: why is it that you are in orlando and he is in somewhere near Palmerton, PA according to the whois?
[05:26] <raize> alright, take care.
[05:26] <ivx> raize, later
[05:26] <cmweb> jakub, im in holt
[05:26] <n_i_c_k> jakub_: ah ok.  I use a Matrox dual head card, which also does not do 3d accel.  That's OK, 3 heads would be just fine, accel or not.
[05:27] <n_i_c_k> jakub_: would you be willing to expand on "it took some fudging"?
[05:27] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: "modes"?
[05:27] <Halitech> cmweb, then either he has a router/modem or tight vnc isn't running and seeing as how I can't ping him, I'd say router/modem or anotehr firewall
[05:28] <caminomaster> ppj, my pc is at home, and the potential "enemy" too
[05:29] <jakub_> n_i_c_k: well for some reason, my onboard i915 kept conflicting with it, so now i have a simple shell script that forces removing the kernel module on boot
[05:29] <TangBaBa> Which is the preferred route: Xgl or AIGLX?
[05:29] <jakub_> n_i_c_k: that and my desktop physically couldn't house 3 24" flat panels, so i had to cut back and use the 21"
[05:29] <matt____> is it normal for an extra hard disk to have to be mounted manuly after a restart?
[05:29] <n_i_c_k> jakub: thanks.  i915 would be an Intel integrated graphics chip, I think?
[05:29] <cmwe1> halitech, windows fire wall possibly?
[05:30] <jakub_> n_i_c_k: yep
[05:30] <n_i_c_k> jakub_: thank you
[05:30] <Halitech> matt___ if it's not in fstab then yes
[05:30] <Halitech> cmwel, maybe
[05:30] <cmwe1> shit, what ip did i give you
[05:30] <cmwe1> halitech
[05:31] <matt____> i am mounting a 200gb hard disk at /home/matt/data, when i restart my computer, i have to mount it each time, is that normal? can i make it "automated"?
[05:31] <Halitech> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:31] <Halitech> matt, edit your fstab and it will mount automatically
[05:31] <Flannel> matt____: yeh, add it to your fstab.  (I'm sure there's a GUI way of doing it, check system > disks or something)
[05:31] <Deon|alt> >:)
[05:32] <matt____> fstab? explain
[05:32] <frogzoo> !fstab | matt____
[05:32] <ubotu> matt____: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:33] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, well, I came home from work this evening to another basically frozen computer, I ran through the whole skinny elephant routine and it worked fine, but nobody online at the time seemed to have any idea where to even begin trying to figure out why my computer keeps doing this
[05:34] <Shnax> does anyone know how to fix a Bad PBR error caused by partition resizing during ubuntu installation?
[05:34] <matt____> ok, i sudo gedit /etc/fstab, but now what do i add? where? is  it "safe", what if i accidently put something in the wrong place?
[05:34] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: You didn't answer my question from last time: do you have any other computers on the same network? I'm very curious to see if you can SSH into it.
[05:34] <jakub_> Shnax: use a livecd and install grub/lilo/<boot loader of choice>?
[05:34] <frogzoo> matt____: the docs explain all this in extensive detail
[05:35] <drcode> hi all
[05:35] <arrenlex> !hi
[05:35] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:35] <drcode> I installed p7zip
[05:35] <arrenlex> ...yay?
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, yes, there are three computers on the network, the other two are running Windows XP
[05:35] <drcode> but I am looking for 7z,7za any idea in what packge I can find it?
[05:35] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: It doesn't matter; if you don't want to set up SSH on wXP you can just boot one of them from the ubuntu liveCD to get SSH.
[05:35] <kitche> drcode: they come with p7zip
[05:36] <drcode> I installed p7zip
[05:36] <drcode> strange
[05:36] <Shnax> jakub, will grub work if I'm trying to fix a windows partition?
[05:36] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, oh, when it was acting funny, I tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 to bring up the tty1 screen, and that did nothing either
[05:36] <ski-worklap> does anyone know why linux-k7, linux-686, etc. are obsoleted by linux-generic?
[05:36] <Halitech> Geoffrey, try putty to ssh into the frozen system from windows
[05:36] <ski-worklap> does the current kernel auto-detect optimizations to use or something?
[05:36] <arrenlex> ski-worklap: They decided that it was hard to maintain.
[05:36] <jrib> !generic | ski-worklap
[05:37] <ubotu> ski-worklap: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[05:37] <ski-worklap> thx
[05:37] <Flannel> ski-worklap: yes, it autodetects
[05:37] <jrib> drcode: why do you need 7z and 7za specifically?  p7zip gives you /usr/bin/7zr and /usr/bin/p7zip
[05:37] <n_i_c_k> Geoffry2: do you see anything in /var/log/syslog about the time of the error?  E.g. the kernel reporting a soft lockup?
[05:38] <drcode> yes
[05:38] <drcode> I need it bcz I want to use xarchive
[05:38] <drcode> it use warpper with 7za
[05:38] <KristanoEsperant> hey... um... okay. The multi-boot tutorial thing is great, but can I put Windows on the master drive instead?
[05:38] <Jester45>  do you know how to look at how much each ram slot has  like slot1: 512mb slot2:128mb etc
[05:38] <jrib> drcode: I'm going to install xarchive to see, one sec
[05:39] <drcode> k
[05:39] <drcode> thnx
[05:39] <roler> When I play DVD movies on my Edgy Laptop, it goes in bursts. It is very hard to notice, but it is not as fluent as on a tv screen. My laptop is more than capable of playing a dvd video... Is there any known issue and a way to fix it?
[05:39] <ski-worklap> jrib, interesting, thanks
[05:39] <roler> I am using MPlayer
[05:39] <jrib> drcode: by the way, do you know that file-roller (the default archive manager) will be able to use p7zip too?
[05:39] <kitche> KristanoEsperant: you can put windows on any drive
[05:39] <matt____> is there an EASY way to make a drive automount?
[05:39] <KristanoEsperant> ok
[05:39] <frogzoo> roler: gxine ?
[05:39] <KristanoEsperant> thanks
[05:40] <jrib> !diskmounter | matt____
[05:40] <ubotu> matt____: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:40] <jrib> matt____: maybe consider pysdm too
[05:40] <drcode> realy
[05:40] <drcode> no
[05:40] <drcode> its gui?
[05:40] <jrib> !p7zip | drcode
[05:40] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.42.dfsg.1-2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 944 kB
[05:40] <KristanoEsperant> and why is the A dropped off the end of my name?
[05:40] <jrib> dumb bot
[05:40] <jrib> !7z | drcode
[05:40] <ubotu> drcode: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:40] <Jester45> please any know how to check how much ram is in each slot
[05:40] <roler> frogzoo; installing now to test
[05:40] <drcode> ha
[05:40] <drcode> I use xfce
[05:40] <drcode> xubuntu
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Anybody know where the Sysreq key is on mac keyboards?
[05:41] <Jester45> drcode: i use it to
[05:41] <Flannel> drcode: you might ask in #xubuntu then, they'd know the default archive program
[05:41] <jrib> drcode: oh, well I'm not sure file-roller is really gnome-specific
[05:41] <KristanoEsperant> should I put windows on first then Ubuntu?
[05:41] <drcode> k
[05:41] <KristanoEsperant> i'm confused, two different sites say two different things
[05:41] <frogzoo> roler: check disk dma is enabled, then in gxine, enable expert mode & increase buffer memory
[05:41] <arrenlex> KristanoEsperant: Windows first, then ubuntu.
[05:41] <Halitech> Kristano, yes, install windows first then ubuntu
[05:41] <Flannel> KristanoEsperant: yes, windows then ubuntu.
[05:42] <Jester45> lol
[05:42] <roler> frogzoo; for dma do I use hdparm ?
[05:42] <KristanoEsperant> w00t three answers
[05:42] <KristanoEsperant> thanks :P
[05:42] <KristanoEsperant> i'm pretty sure which way to go now XD
[05:42] <ubun> beats 0, like i often get :(
[05:42] <Flannel> !dualboot | KristanoEsperant
[05:42] <ubotu> KristanoEsperant: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:42] <jakub_> KristanoEsperant: think about it: windows installs its mbr and you overwrite it with GRUB which recognizes the windows partition. if you do it the other way around, GRUB is gone and Windows tries its best to ignore the Linux partition.
[05:43] <KristanoEsperant> aye, but i'm inexperienced and have just started trying to learn Linux today. I'm currently running on a LiveCd.
[05:43] <Galaeron> Any got a trick to the users list on xchat? If I set it to resizable user list it doesn't appear. If I turn it off, it appears but I cant resize it.
[05:43] <Jester45> im sorry for the slowness
[05:43] <Halitech> Kristano, you can do ubuntu first and then windows but then you have to end up fixing the MBR to get ubuntu bootable again
[05:44] <jrib> drcode: found it, you need to install p7zip-full
[05:44] <KristanoEsperant> i see.
[05:44] <drcode> ha
[05:44] <drcode> I see
[05:44] <drcode> thanx
[05:44] <jakub_> KristanoEsperant: first thing is first, as far as possible, use the web to help you out (Google, forums, etc.) *then* come here if you still have questions
[05:44] <KristanoEsperant> but it DOESNT matter where I put windows (master/slave)? for sure?
[05:44] <drcode> I will check it out
[05:44] <Flannel> KristanoEsperant: correct.  modern GRUBs fool windows
[05:44] <KristanoEsperant> cool beans.
[05:45] <Halitech> Kristano, it shouldn't but I would proably put it on the primary master
[05:45] <KristanoEsperant> Thanks for all your help guys
[05:45] <KristanoEsperant> God bless
[05:45] <KristanoEsperant> cya
[05:46] <Jester45> anyone want to help me figure out how much ram is in each slot
[05:46] <rastilin> You can't check?
[05:46] <Jester45> no
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> n_i_c_k, hmmm, thanks for suggesting the log, looks like I may have found the problem....
[05:46] <MattDaPcWiz> i need help
[05:46] <Halitech> Jester45 power down and take the cover off and look?
[05:46] <MattDaPcWiz> pleeeeeeeease
[05:46] <arrenlex> ! ask | MattDaPcWiz
[05:46] <ubotu> MattDaPcWiz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:47] <Jester45> i know how much total just not separate
[05:47] <MattDaPcWiz> lol
[05:47] <Jester45> Halitech: i cant
[05:47] <MattDaPcWiz> ok what do i do if my network adaptor is not found?
[05:47] <Jester45> Halitech: plus why powerdown
[05:47] <Galaeron> Jester45: take the cover off and look. Chances are if you have 2 sticks of ram, and you know you have a gig, each slot is gonna be 512 :)
[05:47] <frogzoo> roler: to enable dma if it's not on already, edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:47] <rastilin> MattDaPcWiz, how's it not found?
[05:47] <Galaeron> jester45: you want to always have the power off when poking around the inside of your computer
[05:47] <Jester45> Galaeron: i have 2gb ram and 3 slots :(
[05:47] <Halitech> Jester45, so you can take them out if they aren't easily visible
[05:47] <MattDaPcWiz> ok i go to networking
[05:48] <n_i_c_k> MattDaPcWiz: you might be stuck.  Ubuntu probably lacks a driver for it.  Is it an internal PCI card or what?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Anyone used wget to mirror a directory?
[05:48] <frogzoo> roler: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda - will report if it's on
[05:48] <MattDaPcWiz> and it should say
[05:48] <MattDaPcWiz> wired adaptop
[05:48] <MattDaPcWiz> its built into the motherboard
[05:48] <DaSkreech> I can't seem to get it to ignore html file
[05:48] <DaSkreech> html files
[05:48] <MattDaPcWiz> 1 gbps
[05:48] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: ...well? Are you going to share?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> if i do wget --mirror http://url/path it tells me 404 index.html not found
[05:48] <Galaeron> jester45: chances are you have 2 sticks of ram at 1gig each
[05:48] <Halitech> Jester, if yo uhave 2gb, I would say 1 1gb and 2 512
[05:48] <n_i_c_k> MattDaPcWiz: does it appear in the output of "ifconfig -a"?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> wget --mirror -A.avi http://url/path does little better
[05:49] <arrenlex> DaSkreech: What exactly are you trying to download?
[05:49] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, was looking at it again...it's a kernel error, reporting that my wireless is timing out.... Dec 15 12:48:31 jeffrey-laptop kernel: [17223472.732000]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
[05:49] <jakub_> Halitech, Jester45: why not just use lshw and take the guess work out of it?
[05:49] <MattDaPcWiz> im not sure
[05:49] <MattDaPcWiz> ummmm
[05:49] <Jester45> Halitech and Galaeron i need to find the highest ones
[05:49] <DaSkreech> arrenlex: the entire contents of a folder
[05:49] <DaSkreech> It's only avis in it
[05:49] <arrenlex> DaSkreech: I don't think you can do it like that.
[05:49] <Halitech> Jester45, oh wait, do you have all 3 slots used and have 2 gb or 2 slots and 2gb?
[05:49] <MattDaPcWiz> its a Marvell Adaptor, which is part of a Gigabyte MotherBoard (GA-965P-S3 )
[05:49] <DaSkreech> but wget keeps telling me 404 index.html not found
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, and that's followed immediately by Dec 15 12:48:31 jeffrey-laptop kernel: [17223472.732000]  bcm43xx: Controller RESET (TX timeout) ...
[05:50] <Jester45> Halitech: i have 3 slots used 2 gb
[05:50] <DaSkreech> arrenlex: So wget is jsut for downloading html files?
[05:50] <Halitech> jakub_ ummmmm, cause I didn't know about it?
[05:50] <arrenlex> DaSkreech: Yes, because unless you specify a file it looks like index.html
[05:50] <frogzoo> DaSkreech: can you read that url witha  browser?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Yes