[01:44] <olsion> hi
 Interesting. Installing Kubuntu Driver Manager will remove the Kubuntu-desktop and Kubuntu-settings-desktop! 😶 : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cd595cd6/file_53573.jpg
 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1962463 (re @Anarchotaoist: )
[14:04] <user|63> does someone know a way of reducing scroll speeds while using the trackpad? Mine scrolls way too fast making it kinda useless.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:28] <kirvesAxe> user|63, I am sure I have seen a setting related to scroll speeds, but now I wonder where it was...
[19:18] <johnc> Could someone please point me to how to load and install Kubuntu?  I have the .iso file - by downloading it into windows, then copying it onto a laptop that I want to run Kubuntu on.  I changed the boot drive to usb.  It ignored it.  All the advice online says to select language, etc, but it doesn't boot, so how I do that?  I cannot find any
[19:18] <johnc> advice that says what you actually do to get the .iso file to run, leaving me with a fresh computer with nothing else on it except kubuntu.  Is there such a thing somewhere?  Thanks
[19:22] <johnc> I meant copying it onto a usb stick then putting the stick into the laptop.
[19:35] <alkisg> johnc: you just copied the .iso inside the stick? That won't work, you need to use a program so that you make it bootable
[19:35] <alkisg> E.g. have a look at ventoy if you don't have any other instructions
[19:40] <Maik> johnc: same as with main Ubuntu, just follow this guide: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview
[20:34] <user|60> hai
[21:55] <mdiehl> Hi all.  I was using kontact's calendar module and managed to make the date navigator and calendar manager disappear by resizing the panel.  How can I reset the screen layout?


[20:31] <Synth_sam> will upload now
[20:32] <Myrtti> just as long you don't upload the compiled latex on the vcs :-D
[20:33]  * Myrtti facepalmed several times at work for a clueless workmate doing it over and over and over again
[20:33] <Myrtti> and when I complained, she uploaded the zip files containing the pdf
[20:33] <cbx333> haha
[20:33] <Synth_sam> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~pcxse1/gitt.pdf
[20:33] <cbx333> yeh that's why i don't do anything like that
[20:34] <cbx333> Synth_sam, looks good
[20:34] <Synth_sam> cbx333: no hyphenation in the first 20 pages at least
[20:35] <cbx333> ok
[20:35] <cbx333> that's cool
[20:35] <cbx333> Synth_sam, see my pm
[20:36] <Synth_sam> k
[20:36] <Synth_sam> I just added /usepackage[final]<microtype> to the preamble
[20:37] <cbx333> what changes did that introduce
[20:37] <cbx333> the lack of hyphenation?
[20:38] <cbx333> HazRPG, did the headers and page numbers disappear after your extra installation?
[20:38] <cbx333> brb
[20:38] <Synth_sam> cbx333: it allows pdflatex to change the spaces betweeen letters in words with more control, so in general, it won't need to hyphenate
[20:39] <Synth_sam> right, I'm off, ttyl
[20:39] <shauno> good lord, have they not taken that 'file sharing' thread out back and shot it yet?
[20:40] <HazRPG> cbx333: yes, it did :)
[20:40] <HazRPG> cbx333: I must say, I do like the book - keep meaning to learn how to use git properly
[20:41] <HazRPG> I've only ever used it for cloning out stuff with TortoiseGit
[20:41] <HazRPG> but I do have projects in mind, and would like them hosted on such sites for others to help pitch in :)
[20:44] <HazRPG> shauno: ?
[20:47] <shauno> there's a thread on the mailing list that needs to be put out of it's misery :)
[21:01] <HazRPG> shauno: ah
[21:01]  * HazRPG goes to look
[21:03] <HazRPG> shauno: isn't there another way to share files on linux then using samba?
[21:03]  * HazRPG recalls something about ssh
[21:09] <daftykins> HazRPG: sshfs ?
[21:09] <daftykins> also, hi ^_^
[21:14] <cbx333> HazRPG, yeh, i mean that's the whole reason for writing it - I want to show it being used in a practical environment - I find a lot of the time, I'll read a technical book and forget how to do pretty much everything I read
[21:16] <daubers> HazRPG: nfs :)
[21:17] <daftykins> fwiw, though it may not surprise anyone, windows 7 is utterly useless as a file server :>
[21:17] <HazRPG> cbx333: it is a great idea :)
[21:17] <HazRPG> daftykins: that's the one
[21:17] <HazRPG> daubers: nfs?
[21:17] <daftykins> though i don't really agree with SSHFS, depending upon what someone's trying to achieve
[21:18] <daubers> For sharin files in Linux
[21:18] <HazRPG> daftykins: doesn't surprise me tbh
[21:18] <daftykins> it might be my hardware, but when saturating gigabit (as in actually 120MB/sec+) it still makes the 'server' service go a bit wobbly sometimes
[21:21] <daubers> daftykins: I'm surprised you can get as high as 120MB/s on Gigabit, highest I've seen is 117
[21:21] <shauno> I don't tend to think of sshfs as being a permenant fixture
[21:22] <daftykins> daubers: yeah, SSD -> gigabit LAN -> 3ware RAID 5
[21:22] <daftykins> and back again
[21:23] <daftykins> easy peasy
[21:23] <daubers> daftykins: I've gone 16 disk raid6 -> 16 disk raid6 and get 117 ish max
[21:24] <daftykins> might just be the Windows numbers i see then
[21:24] <daftykins> it's not consistent
[21:24] <daubers> heh
[21:24] <daubers> fair enough
[21:24] <daftykins> :D
[21:24] <daftykins> it goes 110-125
[21:24] <daubers> That'll be Windows doing it's standard amount of lying then :)
[21:24] <daftykins> lets have a go right now
[21:24] <daftykins> fo sho ^_^
[21:25] <daftykins> 122, 137, 120. 112, 119...
[21:25] <daubers> Theoretical peak is 125MB/s, so unless you're running with no overhead, I somehow doubt thats possible :)
[21:25] <daftykins> yeah you're about right then for an average
[21:25] <daftykins> i see your point but it's a little nitpicky ;)
[21:26] <daubers> daftykins: Sorry, thats my job though :p
[21:26] <daftykins> heh
[21:26] <daftykins> indeed
[21:26] <daftykins> i've not really pushed the guy's 12TB RAID6 one
[21:26] <daftykins> i was only just around there for the first time yesterday, in weeks
[21:26] <daubers> I spent that a few months trying to get from an average of 117 to 119, and just about achieved it by cheating a little, so would have been damn impressed if you could best it
[21:26] <daftykins> as the IT teaching i'm doing to help out is thieving my time
[21:28] <daubers> I've got 8 of the new intel SSDs turning up soon
[21:28] <daubers> Someone wants to do 2k format video editing on shared storage
[21:29] <daubers> So he can use ~128 spinny disks, or 8 2.5" SSDs :)
[21:29] <daftykins> cor
[21:29] <daftykins> actually the media department at my college want something soon
[21:31] <daftykins> i think they want to try and do some shared editing
[21:31] <daftykins> anywho, mates over, bbl
[21:36] <shauno> now this is starting to get confusing.  trying to figure out how to remove the 'launchpad' icon from 10.7's dock.  ubuntu's dominating the google results :)
[21:37] <daubers> daftykins: Get them to give me a ring if they get stuck :)
[21:46] <ali1234> shauno: have you tried clicking the icon with "ctrl-alt-cmd" pressed? (whatever that means)
[21:47] <ali1234> shauno: or this: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1104263
[21:48]  * brobostigon Haz chocolate buttons, :)
[21:48] <penguin42> classic mac, 3 keys held and a mouse button
[21:48] <penguin42> brobostigon: Oooh
[21:48] <shauno> ali1234: yeah, it just keeps coming back on it's own :(
[21:50] <shauno> think that one's going on radar, 'tis a bit pants
[21:50] <shauno> it was more the namespace collision that I found interesting tho
[21:51]  * brobostigon noms and make agreeable noises.
[21:52] <mossa> arab
[21:55] <jpds> wut.
[21:55] <brobostigon> weird.
[22:10]  * HazRPG grumbles
[22:10] <HazRPG> either this document is too old and doesn't work with the most current version, or I'm doing something terribly wrong :/
[22:11] <HazRPG> D0y should change the volume with y = number from 0-9, but its not working :S
[22:12] <HazRPG> brobostigon: oh hi :)
[22:12] <HazRPG> ah seems I was using it wrong
[22:13] <brobostigon> HazRPG: evening, :)
[22:13] <HazRPG> ...but its setting the volume for ALL channels
[22:13]  * HazRPG grumbles more
[22:13] <HazRPG> brobostigon: :)
[22:14] <HazRPG> must be a way to make something sound lower
[22:15] <brobostigon> frequency lower?
[22:15] <HazRPG> yeah I'm messing with sustain/release to see if that does it
[22:15] <brobostigon> ah,
[22:15] <HazRPG> ooo, yeah :D
[22:15] <HazRPG> BB works better than FF :D
[22:15] <brobostigon> BB ?
[22:17] <HazRPG> hex codes
[22:17] <brobostigon> ah.
[22:18] <HazRPG> Sustain/Release: BB
[22:18] <HazRPG> I had it set to FF originally
[22:18] <HazRPG> although the problem now is that although its lower, the tone fades away quicker
[22:18] <HazRPG> maybe BF might be better
[22:18] <brobostigon> ok.
[22:19] <HazRPG> brobostigon: messing with GoatTracker
[22:19] <brobostigon> HazRPG: i admit to be somewhat clueless.
[22:19] <HazRPG> brobostigon: GoatTracker is in the repo :)
[22:19] <HazRPG> its an old c64 tracker
[22:19] <HazRPG> to make songs :)
[22:19] <HazRPG> in old-school form :)
[22:19] <brobostigon> ok.
[22:20]  * HazRPG likes chiptunes
[22:21] <HazRPG> brobostigon: if you wanna try it out, I can send you the tutorial/manual type thing I managed to find (after several hours of digging)
[22:22] <HazRPG> brobostigon: http://www.hazrpg.co.uk/music/c64 is what I have so far
[22:22] <brobostigon> HazRPG: maybe another day, iam quite tired.
[22:23] <HazRPG> I've put the tutorial in that directory for you, so you can nab it from there :)
[22:23] <brobostigon> HazRPG: could you remind me earlier inanother dayplease. my brain is scrambld.
[22:23] <brobostigon> thank you.
[22:23] <HazRPG> yeah no problem :)
[22:24] <brobostigon> thank you, :)
[22:24]  * HazRPG gives out free hugs
[22:24]  * brobostigon hugs HazRPG
[22:25] <HazRPG> hurray!
[22:25] <HazRPG> also put the sample songs I've managed to find when digging through the intersurf-highway, so that you can load them up and see how they did things too :) - but I'll remind you another night
[22:26] <ali1234> goattracker comes with examples in /usr/share/doc/goattracker/examples
[22:28] <HazRPG> ali1234: wow, I really need to learn to look in there more often
[22:28] <HazRPG> still not 100% keyed up on this whole thing yet
[22:29] <HazRPG> but I haven't touched windows in the last 2 months now :)
[22:29]  * HazRPG feels proud
[22:29] <HazRPG> managed to avoid it for a year before, but the minute I was back in for whatever reason at the time... I was stuck in there again (for some god forsaken reason)
[22:30] <HazRPG> although the difference between now and the last few times, I'm actually dedicated to learning the ins and outs of my system
[22:31] <HazRPG> I do plan to start coding for multi-platform too (or at least learn how to), etc
[22:31] <HazRPG> part of my new years resolution - better myself in the linux environment
[22:34] <HazRPG> ali1234: thanks for the heads up
[22:37] <zleap> hi
[22:37] <zleap> just commented on a website for youg people that want to volunteer, if anyone can add to my comments feel free at http://www.vteamdevontorbay.org/v-is-coming-to-an-end/#comment-15
[22:37] <HazRPG> zleap: hi :)
[22:37] <zleap> hi
[22:46] <HazRPG> wow, was there seriously no books published about the trackers in the 80's
[22:46]  * HazRPG might be looking for the wrong thing
[22:46] <penguin42> trackers?
[22:46] <HazRPG> audio trackers
[22:47] <HazRPG> for c64, etc
[22:47] <zleap> hmm
[22:47] <zleap> speccy user here :)
[22:47] <zleap> anyone up for single channel sound beep beep
[22:47] <HazRPG> zleap: it'll have had a tracker made for it at one point
[22:48] <zleap> yeah
[22:48] <penguin42> Model B here - 76489 yeh!
[22:48] <zleap> i did have a sound sampler once
[22:48] <HazRPG> see I had a MZ-721
[22:48] <HazRPG> ... sadly no one ever remembers those
[22:48] <zleap> and coded hey jude from a book then had to de bug the program from the book sio it played hey jude at ther right speed
[22:49] <HazRPG> hehe
[22:49] <zleap> coding from books was fun
[22:49] <zleap> yeah played it too fast
[22:49] <zleap> it was also the first 2 lines of the song,
[22:50] <zleap> which given hey jude is actually quite long
[23:05] <daftykins> daubers: the funny part is IT support won't have anything to do with the departments that use Macs, so this technician guy is gonna do some of their IT side stuff, but the thing is he doesn't really work with computers, he only does the techniciany side of things behind media
[23:05] <daftykins> he's planning on buying a mac mini as a directory services sorta server right now as he was telling me something about Apple stopping selling XServes or something 0o
[23:06] <daftykins> which is just a mistake imo
[23:09] <HazRPG> heh
[23:12] <daftykins> i've been tempted to get an ION 2 nettop for my third LCD again... hang it on the back maybe as a second system to permanently run Ubuntu
[23:17] <daftykins> this is hilarious to me, from the Apple website
[23:17] <daftykins> regarding OS X Server on a mac mini
[23:18] <daftykins> "After selecting Mac mini with Snow Leopard Server, you can add up to 8GB of memory, external storage for RAID 5 data protection, Apple Remote Desktop software, an external SuperDrive, and other options."
[23:18] <daftykins> basically saying, after buying you can plug all this stuff into it externally, to make it act like a REAL server >_<
[23:23] <ali1234> yes, it clearly makes more sense to buy a dell server with windows or rhel and then spend 6 months and god knows how much money getting certified to use it
[23:24] <zleap> windows
[23:25] <AlanBell> evening all
[23:26] <cbx333> right I think that's me out for the night - a large amount of changes to GITT tonight :)
[23:26] <cbx333> not done any proofing on it yet :)
[23:26] <daftykins> ali1234: err... actually my point is that it'd be better to get the Mac Pro server so components can be easily removed if found faulty.
[23:27] <daftykins> i bet if the mac mini goes down, you're somewhat screwed
[23:27] <ali1234> well yeah
[23:27] <daftykins> ali1234: but of course you missed that, given you assumed my perspective :)
[23:27] <ali1234> same is true whether you have to send for a new video card, or a whole new machine
[23:27] <daftykins> no because those things can be sourced locally in an emergency
[23:28] <daftykins> whereas somewhere here, with no Apple store, is a tad out of reach
[23:29] <ali1234> really? they sell mac pro motherboards in your local PC shops?
[23:29] <daftykins> ok, on a saturday night i really can't be bothered with your nitpicking attitude
[23:29] <ali1234> i dunno why i said video card before... server doesn't need video card
[23:32] <ali1234> well, ok then, don't nitpick others if you don't like it
[23:33] <daftykins> you're just covering up the fact that you assumed incorrectly to begin with
[23:33] <ali1234> and btw, original point still stands - if this was really mission critical stuff, it wouldn't be managed by somebody with no IT experience
[23:34] <ali1234> in which case it actually would make sense to do what i said instead of using macs
[23:34] <daftykins> but that was sarcasm...
[23:34] <ali1234> but since it's clearly not even been considered, it's clearly not important to have things like SLA
[23:35] <daftykins> no, public sector in education, the IT department has free reign to sit on their hands
[23:36] <daftykins> but anyway, my original moan was that the guy considered a mac mini to run two departments off :D i don't think that's a good idea
[23:43] <daftykins> funny, you went quiet.
[23:43] <ali1234> in that guy's situation (ie i don't know how to diagnose PC hardware problems) i would do exactly the same thing
[23:44] <daftykins> well, he has got some contact and advice from the IT support department that won't touch the macs
[23:44] <daftykins> so hopefully they'll steer him sensibly
[23:44] <daftykins> but what about if you *do* know, you'd still say it's fine to have a tiny little SFF system running a 60+ client network?
[23:44] <ali1234> if they won't support a mac pro for him, then the logical choice is the mini
[23:45] <daftykins> i'm not sure i follow
[23:45] <daftykins> they're not going to support either
[23:45] <ali1234> right
[23:45] <daftykins> so why buy one more susceptible to failure?
[23:47] <ali1234> who says the mini will be more susceptible to failure?
[23:50]  * hamitron likes small devices for servers
[23:50] <ali1234> i'm going to assume he knows better than to run the thing sandwiched in between a dvd player and a skybox like most people probably do
[23:51] <hamitron> cheaper and when they break, just throw away
[23:51] <daftykins> hahaha
[23:51] <hamitron> but a mac isn't cheap ;)
[23:51] <daftykins> neither would the storage be that they acquire eventually for their video editing
[23:51] <daftykins> it raises a good question though
[23:52] <daftykins> i certainly don't know what solution i'd go with to cater for say, even one class of maybe 20-30 macs doing video editing
[23:52] <daftykins> i'd advise sticking to local editing followed by copying back to a large RAID array really
[23:52] <daftykins> but even then it's less than ideal, conceptually
[23:53] <hamitron> local ftw
[23:53] <hamitron> pointless centralising, just to cause a headache
[23:53] <daftykins> indeed
[23:54] <daftykins> i was thinking of fragmentation + the wear and tear on a bunch of mechanical disks of a load of students editing directly from it
[23:54] <hamitron> the thought makes me wanna cry :/
[23:54] <daftykins> :D
[23:55] <daftykins> i was trying to put in my 2p, but the guy works on another site at the other end of the island, i only met him once in the restaurant
[23:55] <ali1234> editing from a central server is madness
[23:55] <daftykins> having catering students run a restaurant one floor down from your classrooms = win \o/
[23:55] <ali1234> you need specialist hardware for that
[23:55] <daftykins> indeed
[23:55] <daftykins> he did say something about 40 grand
[23:56] <hamitron> do video editing tools work well remotely?
[23:56] <hamitron> never had much to do with them
[23:57] <mgdm> the video editing system at work is *insane*
[23:57] <hamitron> just considering when the application is running on the server
[23:57] <mgdm> but we are a TV station
[23:57] <daftykins> mgdm: :O which one?
[23:57] <daftykins> mgdm: any ideas what said system is like?
[23:57] <hamitron> television X?
[23:57] <mgdm> hamitron: No.
[23:58] <hamitron> staff discount?
[23:58] <hamitron> ah, nvm
[23:58] <hamitron> ;)
[23:58] <mgdm> daftykins: expensive. Fast. :)
[23:58] <daftykins> :)


[12:31] <cornell> Ok guys... I'm baaack
[12:31] <cornell> ;-)
[12:33] <cornell> Now, I want to restore the dumped mysql data into the new database.  I want to do only specific tables, those that refer to the data stored on my vg.  I don't know what tables.  I guess I could open the backup file and look for things related to the recordings and note the tables.  Any other ideas?
[12:50] <cornell> I know this is off topic, but can I run phpMyAdmin on this machine pointing to a database on another?
[01:00] <cornell> Ok... I figured I could go through the dump, comparing to the new database an finger out what needs to be inserted.  But the First table in the restore for mythconverg is archiveitems, but there isn't one in the new installation's database.
[01:12] <keescook> superm1: found my idiocy, got an exception, re-uploading myth{tv,plugins} now.
[01:16] <cornell> mmm... codecparams is empty in the new one, but not the old.  You'd think that'd be populated.
[01:17] <cornell> Speaking of which is there a database init  script of some kind that needs to be done manually, i.e. not done by the install?
[01:19] <cornell> uh-oh....  table credits has stuff in it with chanid, same as in channels...  but the id's are different :-(
[01:41] <cornell> Anybody familiar with the tables?
[02:00] <cornell> Do I need the table oldprogram?
[02:06] <cornell> Found it!!!    http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Database_Schema
[02:38] <replman> Hi! With mythtv-frontend, is it possible to switch between window mode and fullscreen mode without restarting mythtv-frontend?
[02:53] <Chadarius> superm1: Hey I'm online all night tonight... Looked at your code. Frankly mine stunk. I like the tabs much better than the "tree" that I was making
[02:57] <cornell> Well... seems like the big problem is the personid, and the chanid.  They're different in the old and new.  So, should I endeavor to update all the old to the new and then insert the ones that are missing?
[03:21] <cornell> Well... TTFN
[04:35] <dablitz> help
[04:36] <dablitz> i am trying to get myth to run on kubuntu with almost NO luck
[04:36] <laga> sorry to hear that. what's wrong?`
[04:36] <dablitz> well when I run mythtv-setup. it gets as far as setting the database login/password then exits. will not let me setup my capture card or anything
[04:37] <dablitz> i have been throught every how-to I can find
[04:38] <dablitz> i am about ready to completely start over
[04:38] <laga> can you start it in a terminal (konsole)? it should print some error messages there
[04:38] <dablitz> let me try
[04:39] <dablitz> lots and lots and lots of errors
[04:40] <laga> care to show me?
[04:41] <dablitz> pastebin?
[04:41] <laga> sure
[04:42] <dablitz> http://www.pastebin.ca/662254
[04:42] <laga> dablitz: did you compile mythtv yourself?
[04:42] <dablitz> yes from the latest svn
[04:43] <laga> #
[04:43] <laga> 2007-08-18 10:41:18.197 This app was compiled against libmyth version: 0.20.20070717-1
[04:43] <laga> # but the library is version: 0.20.20060828-3
[04:43] <laga> # You probably want to recompile everything, and do a
[04:43] <laga> # 'make distclean' first.
[04:43] <laga> ^^ that's what the error message says.
[04:43] <laga> #
[04:43] <laga> 2007-08-18 10:41:18.198 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
[04:43] <laga> you need to remove the mythtv *packages* from your system.
[04:43] <dablitz> ok
[04:43] <dablitz> apt-get remove --purge mythtv
[04:44] <dablitz> ?
[04:44] <dablitz> then rebuild
[04:45] <laga> --purge shouldn't be necessary
[04:45] <dablitz> ok
[04:45] <laga> rebuild shouldn't be necessary either
[04:45] <laga> it's loading the wrong libraries now
[04:45] <laga> once they're removed, you should be OK
[04:45] <dablitz> ok thanks
[04:45] <dablitz> I will try that
[04:46] <laga> and please mention that you compiled your own packages next time in here. we kinda expect users to use ubuntu packages
[04:46] <dablitz> understandable - the only issue is that the ubuntu packages I have a hardtime paching some of the north american patches against
[04:47] <laga> some of the north american patches for encrypted TV? ;)
[04:47] <dablitz> i never said that
[04:47] <dablitz> hehe
[06:14] <dablitz> hello channel
[06:15] <dablitz> can someone direct me to a url that will tell me what dependencies mytharchive requires
[06:15] <ompaul> apt-cache show PackageName helps there
[06:16] <dablitz> thankyou
[08:09] <junkyardrocket> Can I get help here getting MythTV working under Ubuntu. I have an odd issue.
[08:10] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the issue
[08:11] <junkyardrocket> Well, I have all the components working: lirc, backend, frontend, and all that. It works. But when I used the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package, the remote no longer works. I can alt-ctrl-f1 to a terminal, run irw, and see that commands are getting processed, but nothing in the actual frontent.
[08:11] <junkyardrocket> *frontend
[08:11] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[08:12] <superm1> junkyardrocket, copy the .lircrc to /home/mythtv
[08:13] <tgm4883_laptop> ----------------------
[08:13] <tgm4883_laptop> dang it
[08:13] <superm1> and the .mythtv/lircrc to /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc
[08:13] <superm1> :)
[08:13] <junkyardrocket> Also, when I run the frontend in Gnome, the remote works fine. It's just the openbox, auto-login
[08:13] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, knows all the answers
[08:13] <superm1> haha
[08:13] <tgm4883_laptop> i was looking that up
[08:13] <tgm4883_laptop> was thinking about saying "superm1 knows the answer"
[08:13] <junkyardrocket> I have done that.
[08:13] <superm1> well aren't you lucky i was walking in and saw that then
[08:14] <superm1> you've done that eh?
[08:14] <junkyardrocket> I have the same file in both ~/.lircrc and .mythtv/lircrc
[08:14] <superm1> ~ meaning /home/mythtv
[08:14] <superm1> right?
[08:14] <junkyardrocket> It does dump out a bunch or warnings through
[08:14] <junkyardrocket> though
[08:14] <junkyardrocket> Hmm... lemme check.
[08:16] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like the .lircrc file is in the main user home directory right?
[08:16] <superm1> that's what it sounds to me
[08:16] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[08:16] <tgm4883_laptop> just wanted to make sure I was going to give him the right info
[08:16] <junkyardrocket> That's what it looks like. I knew I had to me missing something like that. I'll know in a second
[08:16] <junkyardrocket> me = be
[08:20] <junkyardrocket> Well, I didn't have the file there, but it didn't see to work.
[08:21] <superm1> double negative ? so you copied the file there
[08:21] <superm1> or no?
[08:21] <junkyardrocket> Right. I copied the file, rebooted, and nothing changed.
[08:22] <superm1> you have to copy both
[08:22] <superm1> /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc and /home/mythtv/.lircrc
[08:22] <junkyardrocket> I've done that too. Well, I made a link from .lircrc to .mythtv/lircrc anyhow
[08:23] <junkyardrocket> Could that be the problem?
[08:23] <superm1> make sure the link is valid
[08:23] <superm1> that you got the order right
[08:23] <superm1> like try to cat the file
[08:24] <laga> same here tgm4883_laptop ;)
[08:24] <junkyardrocket> And there it goes! Thank you much!
[08:24] <laga> hey, mythbuntu.org is down. ;)
[08:24] <tgm4883_laptop> laga, WHAT!?!
[08:24] <superm1> lol
[08:25] <junkyardrocket> It's amazing that every other problem I could fix, but this stupid little thing is what stumps me.
[08:25] <tgm4883_laptop> it happens
[08:25] <superm1> i sent brandon some mail last night
[08:25] <superm1> asking for the ownership transfer
[08:25] <superm1> and for the backup
[08:25] <superm1> and sent him a PM...
[08:25] <superm1> hist phone isn't working anymore it appears when i call it
[08:26] <junkyardrocket> Well, thanks again for the help. Glad all of you are here.
[08:26] <laga> :/
[08:26] <tgm4883_laptop> there was a guy on here last night that wanted to show the website to a coworker
[08:27] <tgm4883_laptop> he said he was going to make an unofficial website
[08:27] <superm1> yea jumpkick did
[08:27] <superm1> he had some of the data cached somehow
[08:27] <jumpkick> http://mythbuntu.stacktrace.org/
[08:29] <superm1> jumpkick, you don't by chance have the artwork on the page also cached do you?
[08:29] <superm1> the css and graphics
[08:30] <superm1> only thing i was able to pull from my cache was the logo: http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/mythbuntu/mythbuntu_logo_blue_steel.png
[08:30] <tgm4883_laptop> too slow laga
[08:30] <tgm4883_laptop> just checked
[08:31] <laga> if you'd stop surfing for porn, you wouldn't have to empty your caches
[08:31] <superm1> well i didn't empty it
[08:31] <superm1> it got full
[08:31] <superm1> and started deleting old items
[08:31] <laga> you surf too much porn then
[08:31] <laga> ;)
[08:31] <jumpkick> superm1: I don't have that, css *might* be in the caches somewhere, but graphics are usually not
[08:31] <laga> i'll just let google cache loading
[08:32] <superm1> if anyone wants to give this page a look over, i updated it to all the new stuff that's happened with gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy
[08:33] <laga> nothing in my cache :/
[08:33] <jumpkick> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=FyS&q=site%3Amythbuntu.org+css&btnG=Search
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> wtf
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=749508
[08:34] <jumpkick> doesn't look like the CSS files themselves are cached
[08:34] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: ack, wtf
[08:34] <tgm4883_laptop> i saw that when i googled mythbuntu
[08:34] <laga> superm1: any reply on the 1024 hz stuff
[08:34] <tgm4883_laptop> like the 10th listing
[08:35] <superm1> wtf?
[08:35] <superm1> laga, i didn't hear anything back yesterday in -kernel before i left when i went to bed
[08:36] <tgm4883_laptop> i think someone needs to sign up and help this guy
[08:37] <laga> and put the money towards a new host ;)
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> or sweet mythbuntu aluminum case badges
[08:39] <superm1> haha you and those case badges tgm4883_laptop
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> gotta love them
[08:39] <superm1> jumpkick, could you get drupal thrown on your box, for now can probably rebuild most of the site from google cached data until get the mysql dump (if it comes through)
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> wait, what if the money went toward one of those lawn figurines
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> you know
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> whats it called
[08:39] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: pink flamingo?
[08:39] <superm1> garden gnomes !
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[08:39] <laga> garden gnome?
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[08:39] <laga> jej
[08:39] <laga> s/jej/heh/
[08:39] <jumpkick> superm1: do you want access to the box
[08:39] <superm1> jumpkick, yea if you could
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> did we shoot an email to ben dailey?
[08:39] <superm1> i can try to get it as rebuilt as possible without the backup
[08:39] <superm1> yea i did
[08:40] <superm1> to the email address on whois
[08:40] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[08:40] <superm1> Daviey, yo uhere ?
[08:45] <tgm4883_laptop> :( google cache only has text
[08:46] <superm1> well text is better than nothing at this point
[08:46] <superm1> especially if brandon isn't coming around
[08:51] <tgm4883_laptop> well we probably want this then
[08:52] <tgm4883_laptop> as it isn't on the stacktrace one
[08:53] <tgm4883_laptop> oh wait, yea it is
[08:54] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, grab text from whatever pages you can, i've got "About" and "Download"
[08:56] <tgm4883_laptop> i have getting involved
[08:56] <tgm4883_laptop> and suppport
[09:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[09:01] <tgm4883_laptop> got the weekly build repo page and the weekly build support page
[09:02] <tgm4883_laptop> so we don't have a response from imbrandon?
[09:02] <superm1> nope
[09:02] <tgm4883_laptop> i knew i should have bugged him yesterday
[09:02] <tgm4883_laptop> i saw him online and talking
[09:02] <superm1> you saw him yesterday!!!
[09:02] <superm1> oh gosh yea
[09:02] <superm1> if you see him again
[09:03] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[09:03] <superm1> please do bug him
[09:03] <tgm4883_laptop> well he is online right now
[09:03] <superm1> i dont know why he is ignoring my emails and PMs
[09:03] <superm1> makes no sense
[09:03] <tgm4883_laptop> hiding out in ubuntu-motu
[09:03] <superm1> haha hiding
[09:06] <laga> i PM'ed him too the other day
[09:06] <laga> no response
[09:08] <superm1> haha
[09:11] <laga> seriously though, it can't be that hard to mail a few files to superm1
[09:11] <superm1> i know
[09:15] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, i need to test something
[09:15] <superm1> what tgm4883_laptop ?
[09:15] <tgm4883_laptop> dang it
[09:15] <tgm4883_laptop> dont say my name, but type a message
[09:16] <superm1> message?
[09:16] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[09:17] <tgm4883_laptop> now any channel i am in will get special highlighting when superm1 or imbrandon say something
[09:17] <laga> woah
[09:17] <superm1> haha
[09:17] <laga> that was cool
[09:17] <laga> ah
[09:17] <laga> ;)
[09:18] <tgm4883_laptop> or if we could have that feature in real life
[09:18] <tgm4883_laptop> if someone says your name, their head should blink
[09:21] <superm1> haha
[09:21] <superm1> it should
[09:31] <tgm4883_laptop><EMAIL_ADDRESS>still work?
[09:31] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, Nope
[09:31] <superm1> since the mail server needed to contact mythbuntu.org
[09:31] <superm1> when it tried
[09:32] <tgm4883_laptop> i can send you these cached text pages if you dont have them
[09:32] <superm1> put them somewhere i can grab them or emali to @ubuntu.com
[09:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[09:34] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, they are up on my webspace.  They are just openoffice files
[09:35] <superm1> k
[09:35] <superm1> well actually if you can do them as html
[09:35] <superm1> that's the easiest to drop back in
[09:35] <tgm4883_laptop> I could
[09:35] <tgm4883_laptop> theres really no formatting though
[09:35] <tgm4883_laptop> well
[09:35] <tgm4883_laptop> no css formatting
[09:36] <superm1> well the big thing was the font size and such
[09:36] <superm1> so those stlil show through
[09:36] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[09:37] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll do that then
[09:37] <tgm4883_laptop> but it will be later
[09:37] <tgm4883_laptop> as I have to go show a house now
[09:38] <superm1> okay well i'll try'n grab from the OOo for now
[09:38] <superm1> i should have something back up soon
[09:38] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[09:39] <tgm4883_laptop> there may be mythbuntu highlighting in those files i just realized
[09:39] <tgm4883_laptop> as google highlights its cache
[09:39] <superm1> ah
[09:39] <superm1> well
[09:39] <superm1> better than nothing right now
[09:39] <tgm4883_laptop> I'll fix it up for later though
[09:39] <tgm4883_laptop> are you going to get new screenshots for mythbuntu?
[09:40] <superm1> ugh i gotta do those too
[09:40] <superm1> man this sucks :)
[09:40] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[09:40] <superm1> well maybe put that off
[09:40] <superm1> and have someone else take them
[09:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll keep an eye out for imbrandon
[09:40] <tgm4883_laptop> and do the html pages
[09:41] <tgm4883_laptop> and then we will see about the screenshots
[09:41] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a guide we can take screenshots from?
[09:41] <superm1> well when you come back check and see where i'm at with it, might not need those all converted
[09:41] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[09:41] <superm1> all the screenshots were done by hand....
[11:20] <foxbuntu> superm1, did you get ahold of imbrandon?
[11:20] <superm1> foxbuntu, no
[11:21] <superm1> ....
[11:21] <superm1> i'm rebuilding it on jumpkick's server right now
[11:21] <superm1> from scratch....
[11:21] <foxbuntu> thats too bad
[11:21] <superm1> at http://mythbuntu.stacktrace.org
[11:21] <superm1> haha i wish that i could take that right now
[11:21] <laga> s/dcss/dccs/
[11:21] <laga> well, i'll do it for you then
[11:21] <superm1> laga, if you want to help rebuild though
[11:22] <laga> 'tis nice french wine
[11:22] <superm1> i'll give you an account here :)
[11:22] <superm1> and you can help me scrub and scavange the clean pages
[11:22] <superm1> to clean the pages
[11:22] <laga> superm1: uh, i gotta go ;)
[11:22] <superm1> well enjoy the wine then :)
[11:22] <superm1> foxbuntu, you want in ?
[11:22] <tgm4883_laptop> alright superm1, where are we at?
[11:22] <foxbuntu> superm1, want in on what?
[11:22] <laga> superm1: SRSLY, it's 11:30pm and i need to spend some time with SWMBO
[11:22] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, i'm gonna make one more post and take it out of maintenance mode
[11:22] <foxbuntu> sorry I steped away
[11:22] <superm1> and then you can see
[11:23] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[11:23] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, were rebuilding mythbuntu
[11:23] <laga> .org
[11:23] <tgm4883_laptop> whoops, i guess that did sound strange
[11:23] <foxbuntu> oh...well thanks anyways since I am gonna have pleanty of time putting the server up in the new data center
[11:24] <foxbuntu> and I spent 6 hours rebuilding a SQL DB last night
[11:24] <foxbuntu> and just got in from mowing the lawn
[11:25] <laga> neighbors got a marching band.. they have their wedding-eve party
[11:25] <laga> time for moar wine, kthx
[11:27] <superm1> okay out of maintenance mode
[11:27] <superm1> you guys can take a look now what i got together this past 2 hours
[11:28] <jumpkick> whoa... just went live
[11:29] <superm1> still missing several pages
[11:29] <superm1> but most of drupal is configured now
[11:29] <superm1> and i redid some of the theme CSS
[11:29] <foxbuntu> superm1, what build do you want the server to be?
[11:30] <foxbuntu> or does it matter?
[11:30] <superm1> foxbuntu, at this point i'm not sure it will still matter, it will just need to be hosting CD images
[11:30] <superm1> and possibly weekly builds
[11:31] <foxbuntu> are you just gonna point the domain at that sub domain?
[11:31] <jumpkick> we can fix the domain name if we can get someone to point the DNS
[11:31] <superm1> well i dont have control of the domain yet, but the plan was that once i get DNS back, it can be pointed around
[11:31] <superm1> i figured cdimages.mythbuntu.org can point at your box
[11:32] <foxbuntu> ok
[11:32] <superm1> and then www.mythbuntu.org will go to jumpkick's
[11:32] <foxbuntu> anyone want to donate to the parts I need to purchase?
[11:32] <foxbuntu> :)
[11:32] <jumpkick> a CNAME record pointing mythbuntu.org and www.mythbuntu.org to mythbuntu.stacktrace.org
[11:32] <jumpkick> should do it
[11:33] <superm1> jumpkick, is your dns for stacktrace.org reliable :)
[11:33] <foxbuntu> jumpkick, right, but I fear that the person we can't contact is the one controling it
[11:33] <jumpkick> everydns.net is pretty reliable
[11:33] <superm1> okay just makin sure
[11:34] <foxbuntu> superm1, DNS isn't what you need to worry about
[11:34] <jumpkick> I've used it for about 2 years
[11:34] <jumpkick> foxbuntu: he needs to worry about DNS
[11:34] <foxbuntu> no for down time
[11:34] <foxbuntu> not*
[11:34] <jumpkick> his current situation is largely unfixable without DNS
[11:34] <jumpkick> if he gets Ben to point to everyDNS on an account he creates
[11:35] <foxbuntu> public nameserver raerly go down becuase of how they are clustered together
[11:35] <jumpkick> he can move sites whenever there's a hiccup
[11:35] <foxbuntu> jumpkick, I understand all that, I build it for a living
[11:35] <foxbuntu> lol
[11:36] <foxbuntu> superm1, as far as DNS goes the DC I am moving into has their own public nameserver they will let me use as well
[11:36] <foxbuntu> nameservers
[11:36] <jumpkick> foxbuntu: you have my sympathies...  BIND is a beast. :P
[11:37] <foxbuntu> jumpkick, honestly, most enterprise servers for DNS don't use BIND
[11:38] <foxbuntu> or if they do, they have some kind of appliance frontend for them
[11:38] <jumpkick> foxbuntu: I know, I know... they use 'Windows Domain Name Service', right...
[11:38] <foxbuntu> unforantly
[11:38] <superm1> okay i just got ahold of ben dailey
[11:38] <foxbuntu> yes?
[11:39] <superm1> he said that he'll be back in town within an hour and can point the dns records wherever needed
[11:39] <superm1> so i'll get an account set up at easydns
[11:39] <superm1> and have him point there
[11:39] <foxbuntu> superm1, i assume easydns is free
[11:39] <superm1> er everydns
[11:41] <jumpkick> http://www.everydns.net/ is free, if you give them a donation they let you manage more then 10 domains
[11:41] <jumpkick> they operate 4 DNS servers, geographically distributed
[11:42] <foxbuntu> superm1, thats fine to add to, but I can move it into the ISP's DNS Servers that have a 99.999% Uptime SLA on them
[11:43] <superm1> foxbuntu, at least for the moment this will get mythbuntu.org back up *today*
[11:43] <superm1> can move to other DNS servers in the near future then
[11:43] <foxbuntu> superm1, I agree
[11:43] <jumpkick> the everydns guys also run opendns.com
[11:43] <foxbuntu> I was just mentioning it
[11:43] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, there are 3 more pages on my webspace for you
[11:44] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, you want to have edit writes
[11:44] <superm1> and you can get them added?
[11:44] <tgm4883_laptop> sure
[11:44] <superm1> i'm sorting out a few more things over here
[11:48] <tgm4883_laptop> whats my email set as?
[11:49] <superm1> tgm4883<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:49] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what i thought
[11:49] <superm1> you should have just gotten a notification
[11:49] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[11:51] <tgm4883_laptop> this new xchat is nice
[11:52] <superm1> in gutsy
[11:52] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[11:52] <superm1> yea i like the logging it opens when you close xchat
[11:52] <superm1> haven't found anything else new yet though
[11:53] <tgm4883_laptop> the name notification is new
[11:53] <superm1> jumpkick, " please use an A record instead -- the delegation records for "mythbuntu.org" interfere with the use of a CNAME (rfc1034 section 3.6.2)"
[11:53] <tgm4883_laptop> im not able to get alerts when you say something in the old version
[11:53] <tgm4883_laptop> unless you say my name
[11:53] <jumpkick> oh, cname is probably just in the same domain
[11:53] <superm1> well the cname worked for www.mythbuntu.org
[11:53] <jumpkick> use <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:53] <tgm4883_laptop> eh, it's going to take me a few minutes, i haven't used drupal before
[11:53] <superm1> just not mythbuntu.org
[11:53] <jumpkick> with an A record
[11:54] <superm1> okay
[11:55] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, what you will be doing is clicking on create new content
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what i thought
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> but it only lets me do an image
[11:56] <superm1> that's probably a permision problem
[11:56] <superm1> give me a moment
[11:56] <superm1> it didn't make you administrator too then i guess
[11:56] <tgm4883_laptop> guess not
[11:57] <superm1> try now
[11:57] <tgm4883_laptop> much better
[11:57] <jumpkick> superm1: if you are doing DNS now, I should put a proper vhost on the apache server
[11:57] <tgm4883_laptop> now i can do a page
[11:57] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, right
[11:58] <superm1> jumpkick, ben will switch the dns over in an hour or so
[11:58] <superm1> but yes probably a good idea
[11:58] <jumpkick> k
[11:58] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, okay so the deal with how this editing works in drupal, its a full html editor mode
[11:59] <superm1> i usually just end up using <h2> and <h3> tags for headings
[11:59] <superm1> and keeping fonts the same otherwise
[11:59] <tgm4883_laptop> so i can just insert the source?
[11:59] <superm1> yes and no
[11:59] <superm1> you'll need to preview it first
[11:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[11:59] <superm1> dont submit it until you think its good
[11:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[11:59] <superm1> also you need to click menu settings when you're ready to preview or submit
[11:59] <superm1> give the page the proper title
[12:00] <superm1> and parent item "Primary Items" if it should show up at the top of the page
[12:00] <tgm4883_laptop> lol, yep, the preview looks totally f-ed
[12:00] <superm1> then click URL path settings and give it a friendly name
[12:00] <superm1> like the about page
[12:00] <superm1> i put
[12:00] <superm1> about
[12:00] <superm1> so mythbuntu.org/about then points there
[12:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[12:02] <superm1> i have a feeling the top is going to break still like it did last time i fixed the CSS on this theme, so try not to use very long page titles
[12:02] <superm1> something short, one or two words
[12:02] <superm1> like "Helping Out"
[12:02] <superm1> or "Download ISO"
[12:03] <foxbuntu> superm1, we could put the repo over on my server too, when that comes online
[12:03] <superm1> foxbuntu, well if launchpad includes repo signing, just using that will work
[12:03] <superm1> but i'm not sure if they will include that
[12:04] <foxbuntu> superm1, well, what ever we need, i will have a full access box in the rack
[12:04] <superm1> okay cool
[12:04] <superm1> foxbuntu, i'd like to do the backups onto it
[12:04] <superm1> and have it rsync the web directory
[12:05] <jumpkick> superm1: vhost alias is put in and I just tried with editing my hosts file
[12:05] <superm1> and sql database
[12:05] <foxbuntu> ok
[12:05] <superm1> foxbuntu, that way if something goes down here with jumpkick for some reason, then we can just flip the dns over to it
[12:05] <superm1> and have the site up there
[12:05] <foxbuntu> well I think I am going to put at least a 2nd drive in it to do a RAID-1 to start with
[12:05] <foxbuntu> and dual NIC's bonded
[12:06] <foxbuntu> and if we can raise some donation money perhaps upgrade to a real server and not a desktop
[12:06] <foxbuntu> actually
[12:06] <jumpkick> foxbuntu: are you running virtualmin?
[12:06] <foxbuntu> jumpkick, nope
[12:06] <jumpkick> I can push a backup of the entire virtual server to another server
[12:07] <jumpkick> or I can just have virtualmin back it up locally
[12:07] <foxbuntu> superm1, I need to perhaps call in another favor
[12:07] <superm1> what's that?
[12:07] <foxbuntu> I might be able to get a used Compaq Proliant Server
[12:07] <foxbuntu> free
[12:08] <superm1> well wouldn't argue that :)
[12:09] <foxbuntu> it would be slower than this box, but it would be server hardware
[12:09] <foxbuntu> and I could get upgraded parts for it over time
[12:10] <jumpkick> I can push the back-up remotely on a schedule, if I have a destination server + SSH login
[12:10] <foxbuntu> I can work that out
[12:11] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, the page looks good in preview, the URL path is set to "gettinginvolved", i dont see no parent item or menu settings though
[12:12] <superm1> okay submit it, and then give me a sec and maybe you need more permissoins
[12:12] <superm1> it's really weird these aren't default
[12:12] <tgm4883_laptop> lol, figures, my zap2it subscription runs out on the 25th
[12:12] <superm1> try to edit now
[12:13] <superm1> you should hopefully have the permission back
[12:14] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, funny thing is, mine runs out on the 1st anyways...
[12:15] <jumpkick> superm1: when you are harvesting from google cache you might want to kill off the the bit right after the URL that does keyword highlighting
[12:15] <jumpkick> save you cleaning up pages later
[12:16] <superm1> jumpkick, yea i've been manually cleaning them up.  that would have been what we call "smart"
[12:16] <jumpkick> dough!
[12:16] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, got it worked out
[12:17] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, there is some wacky mouse over on that page
[12:17] <superm1> you made
[12:17] <tgm4883_laptop> i just selected the mythbuntu text from the google cache and selected view selected source
[12:17] <tgm4883_laptop> where at?
[12:17] <superm1> mouse over the link
[12:18] <tgm4883_laptop> this link https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu.
[12:18] <superm1> yea
[12:19] <tgm4883_laptop> should that just be https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/
[12:19] <superm1> yea
[12:19] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[12:19] <tgm4883_laptop> thats how google cache had it (the first way)
[12:19] <superm1> the google cache was a bit aged
[12:19] <foxbuntu> superm1, the HTML 404 error for the site is all messed up
[12:20] <foxbuntu> http://mythbuntu.stacktrace.org/badpage
[12:20] <foxbuntu> to see what I mean
[12:20] <superm1> woah yuck.
[12:21] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[12:21] <tgm4883_laptop> nobody look at my getting involved page right now
[12:21] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, um there are two?
[12:21] <foxbuntu> lmao
[12:21] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[12:21] <tgm4883_laptop> i dont want to talk about it lol
[12:22] <superm1> well do you have the proper rights to fix it....?
[12:22] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, good job making sure people Get Involved
[12:22] <superm1> foxbuntu, that is because there is no left column
[12:22] <superm1> on the 404 page
[12:22] <superm1> this theme is highly dependent on there being at least two columns on every page
[12:22] <foxbuntu> ah...
[12:22] <tgm4883_laptop> thats right foxbuntu, i want more developers
[12:22] <superm1> as for how to fix it...
[12:22] <superm1> yea um
[12:23] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, how many more things need to fit up on top
[12:23] <superm1> i need to try to resize the buttons
[12:23] <superm1> since its getting close
[12:23] <superm1> it can't be more than i'd say like 2 more?
[12:23] <tgm4883_laptop> thats probably it
[12:23] <tgm4883_laptop> i noticed you already have the auto build pages
[12:23] <superm1> because we had it go all the way across before
[12:23] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[12:23] <superm1> well they aren't accurate though
[12:23] <tgm4883_laptop> let me check the cache again
[12:23] <superm1> a lot of the stuff up here isn't accurate
[12:24] <tgm4883_laptop> well its a good start though
[12:24] <tgm4883_laptop> err, restart
[12:24] <superm1> haha yes
[12:28] <tgm4883_laptop> it looks like we had a home button on the old site
[12:28] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe thats what filled it
[12:28] <superm1> is that it though?
[12:29] <superm1> i swear there was at least one more beside that
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop> afaik
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * Home
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * About Mythbuntu
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * Download Mythbuntu ISO Image
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * Mythbuntu Screenshots
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * Mythbuntu Support
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * Weekly MythTV Build Repository
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop>     * Weekly MythTV Build Support/FAQ
[12:29] <superm1> that's a really old cache
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop> the bottom 2 are sub categories
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[12:29] <superm1> if you can get the cache of the announce page
[12:29] <superm1> that has the alpha 3 announce
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop> well it says august 3rd
[12:29] <superm1> it was the last big update that got pulled
[12:29] <superm1> really...
[12:29] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[12:29] <foxbuntu> superm1, I will catch you later...gl with the rebuild.
[12:29] <superm1> well then maybe it was just really long words
[12:29] <superm1> thanks foxbuntu
[12:29] <superm1> cya
[12:33] <tgm4883_laptop> looks pretty good to me
[12:34] <superm1> so you dont think we should have a home button then?
[12:34] <tgm4883_laptop> we could
[12:34] <tgm4883_laptop> wouldn't hurt
[12:34] <superm1> well put it in
[12:34] <superm1> see how it looks
[12:34] <superm1> at worst, you know what we can do...... this will blow your mind......... "take it out"
[12:34] <superm1> ;)
[12:36] <tgm4883_laptop> in
[12:37] <tgm4883_laptop> looks better in there i think
[12:37] <superm1> Main?
[12:37] <tgm4883_laptop> well
[12:37] <superm1> not Home?
[12:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i forgot
[12:38] <tgm4883_laptop> dont know what i was thinking
[12:38] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[12:38] <tgm4883_laptop> better now
[12:39] <superm1> well i'd have one complaint that i dont think is resolvable
[12:39] <superm1> it doesnt get a green tint
[12:39] <superm1> when you click it
[12:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i can never find the login button
[12:40] <superm1> for this?
[12:40] <tgm4883_laptop> the Home button?
[12:40] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[12:40] <superm1> its not there
[12:40] <superm1> the login button is hidden
[12:40] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[12:40] <tgm4883_laptop> where at?
[12:40] <superm1> http://mythbuntu.stacktrace.org/user
[12:40] <superm1> i think
[12:40] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a pi sign in the corner?
[12:41] <tgm4883_laptop> which will take me to mozarts ghost
[12:41] <superm1> i dont think so :)
[12:41] <superm1> you can add one if it make you feel better though
[12:41] <tgm4883_laptop> 10 points to anyone who knows what movie that is from
[12:42] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, now whats the problem with the home button?
[12:42] <superm1> "The Net"?
[12:42] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[12:42] <tgm4883_laptop> somebodies a googler
[12:42] <superm1> hehe
[12:43] <superm1> do i not get my 10 pts still?
[12:43] <tgm4883_laptop> now you dont get a green tint on the home button?
[12:43] <superm1> na
[12:43] <tgm4883_laptop> you can have 7.4635 points
[12:43] <superm1> wouldn't 6.85841 make more sense?
[12:43] <tgm4883_laptop> is the whole button supposed to tint green?
[12:44] <tgm4883_laptop> no arguing with the officials
[12:44] <tgm4883_laptop> you now only get 3.1459 points
[12:44] <superm1> haha
[12:44] <superm1> not even 3.14159?
[12:44] <superm1> man
[12:44] <tgm4883_laptop> none of the buttons tint for me
[12:44] <superm1> well click them
[12:44] <tgm4883_laptop> arg, i forgot the 1
[12:44] <superm1> anything but home
[12:45] <tgm4883_laptop> ohhhhh
[12:45] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[12:45] <tgm4883_laptop> pretty
[12:45] <tgm4883_laptop> probably how the home button is setup
[12:45] <tgm4883_laptop> as it points to <front>
[12:46] <superm1> oh right
[12:46] <superm1> oh well.
[12:46] <tgm4883_laptop> arg i broke it
[12:47] <tgm4883_laptop> you would have to stick the main page at a node
[12:47] <superm1> woah the breadcrumb bar is gone
[12:47] <superm1> its not a big deal
[12:47] <superm1> just put it back how it was :)
[12:48] <tgm4883_laptop> i didn't change anything about that
[12:49] <tgm4883_laptop> is it not on the other pages too
[12:49] <superm1> hm
[12:50] <superm1> i dunno how that broke...
[12:50] <tgm4883_laptop> must be for certain pages, because I still get it when i go into the menus page
[12:51] <tgm4883_laptop> it dissapears for home though
[12:52] <superm1> well then maybe we dont need that home button after all
[12:52] <superm1> if that is right there
[12:53] <tgm4883_laptop> check now
[12:53] <superm1> yea i guess that works fine
[12:53] <superm1> i'm wondering if its worth moving the automatic weekly stuff to primary headings
[12:53] <superm1> with all this extra space
[12:54] <tgm4883_laptop> could try
[12:56] <tgm4883_laptop> so you did get ahold of ben dailey and hes going to transfer the domain?
[12:58] <superm1> yes
[12:58] <superm1> and things are all set on everydns
[12:59] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[12:59] <tgm4883_laptop> so 24-48 hours were back in business
[12:59] <superm1> oops can you help me unpublish all the stuff on the front page
[12:59] <superm1> you should be able to
[12:59] <superm1> all the images
[01:00] <superm1> just hit edit and go to the bottom
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> whoops
[01:00] <superm1> and uncheck promote to front page
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> im on it
[01:00] <superm1> same thing i did before too
[01:00] <superm1> i'm not used to the image import :)
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> oh wait
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> i cant edit front page
[01:01] <superm1> you can't edit the items on it?
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[01:01] <superm1> erk. ok sec
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> wait
[01:02] <tgm4883_laptop> nm
[01:02] <tgm4883_laptop> :)
[01:02] <superm1> it says you can edit image
[01:02] <superm1> okay yea
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> i dont see a promote to frontpage thing
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> unless you want me to change the parent item
[01:03] <superm1> Na
[01:03] <superm1> okay then you do need one more permission i guess
[01:03] <superm1> one sec
[01:04] <superm1> hm um
[01:04] <superm1> i dont see anything about promoting
[01:04] <superm1> okay well i'll fix the rest of them thehn
[01:05] <superm1> DaveMorris, hey
[01:05] <DaveMorris> hjey
[01:05] <superm1> we've got 1/3 good news
[01:05] <DaveMorris> go on
[01:06] <superm1> ben dailey is gonna transfer the dns over
[01:06] <superm1> and tgm4883 and i are hammering away at getting the site on jumpkic's server
[01:06] <superm1> almost done rebuilding the whole thing
[01:06] <DaveMorris> sounds good
[01:06] <DaveMorris> so I've got a spare 40GB on one of my disks, and I was thinking of putting an encrypted file system there, but what should I srote on it
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> a spell checker
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> j/k
[01:07] <superm1> lol
[01:07] <jumpkick> superm1, tgm4883_laptop: missing torrents on the download page
[01:07] <jumpkick> otherwise looking good
[01:07] <superm1> jumpkick, yea i need to recover the old URL from them
[01:07] <superm1> hopefully they are still alive
[01:08] <DaveMorris> so when is the site due to be back up?
[01:08] <superm1> tonight
[01:08] <tgm4883_laptop> monday at the latest
[01:08] <tgm4883_laptop> according to what all the dns people tell me
[01:08] <superm1> well the whois switchover should be pretty immediate should it not?
[01:09] <jumpkick> superm1: depends on the time-to-live on the records (TTL)....
[01:09] <jumpkick> let me check it
[01:09] <tgm4883_laptop> well were pointing the mythbuntu.org at a new site, and from what im told that reverberates through all the dns servers and takes about 24-48 hours
[01:10] <superm1> ah
[01:10] <jumpkick> TTL is 3600s (or 1 hour for the humans out there)
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, 2 things were missing
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> the torrents
[01:10] <jumpkick> at least I think it is
[01:11] <tgm4883_laptop> and when we announce a release we usually put the link to the bug tracker in there
[01:11] <superm1> well the old announce message is missing too then :)
[01:11] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[01:11] <tgm4883_laptop> want it?
[01:11] <superm1> i dont know how to inject it in
[01:11] <tgm4883_laptop> its in the cache
[01:11] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[01:11] <superm1> as of many days ago
[01:11] <DaveMorris> it can take upto 14 days for dns entry to propgate to all servers, but should be done to 90% within around 12hrs