[17:39] <grinchier> where in romania?
[17:39] <Cerealkill3r> Oradea
[17:39] <Cerealkill3r> what about you?
[17:40] <grinchier> ny
[17:40] <Cerealkill3r> that's nice
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> !ot | Cerealkill3r grinchier
[17:46] <flexus> any jackdbus guy on? need help with alsa_out:  i got it running and it works basically, but it needs to be active when audiojack is plugged in. if i connect a cable to the 3mm port it gets muted. PA module-switch-on-connect is active
[17:47] <leafybasil> Hey all got a strange problem, using dwm, and calling an init script before hand to do things like set key repeat rate and keyboard layout, some of the commands get processed fine, some I still need to run manually after logging in, does anyone know why?
[17:48] <em> How well do you think ubuntu or some variant of ubuntu would run on this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T400-14-2-53GHz-Intel-Core-2-Duo-T9400-3GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-/351430937428
[17:54] <necs> Hello
[17:56] <necs> Why could it be that when i play videos in fullscreen the video gets choppy?  I cant find a pattern with it. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt
[17:57] <compdoc> maybe the video or sound driver, or low end hardware
[17:58] <necs> compdoc: If the video is in the same resolution? Why could it be?
[17:59] <necs> compdoc: Never though about the sound driver. The hardware is a toshiba laptop l305d s5897 with 4 gb or ram and dual core amd processor
[18:01] <grinchier> necs: html5 usually plays much better then flash for certain sites
[18:01] <necs> grinchier: Ita youtube but i cant get 720p with html5
[18:02] <DJJeff> I found package "libgd2-xpm" in precise but I run trusty
[18:02] <OerHeks> necs It all depends on the videocard, ATI Radeon X1250 is very old ( if i am correct that is what your machine got)
[18:04] <bunty> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 rarring on my nexus 7, but I am facing problems. Anybody has any idea about ubuntu on tablet? ( I had ubuntu touch but I want ubuntu desktop on my tablet)
[18:04] <necs> OerHeks: Yes its old but i dont get it why i can play the video in 720p in fullscreen flawlessly but i cant sometimes. Cant find a pattern.
[18:05] <OerHeks> necs, sounds like systemload, close browsers and such.
[18:05] <necs> OerHeks: I did
[18:05] <necs> Only youtube and irc is working
[18:06] <OerHeks> necs, i have no other answer, low specs give vary result.
[18:07] <necs> OerHeks: Thats weird. Well could it be related with the sound driver?
[18:07] <OerHeks> necs, no, i doubt that
[18:08] <ibouvousaime> Hello I have a question for you : Whats the package that provide support for ext3 file system ?
[18:10] <OerHeks> ibouvousaime, e2fslibs and e2fsprogs
[18:12] <ibouvousaime> THANKS OerHeks
[18:12] <jimcornette> I have a disk that I make with dd that is 3 gigs big.  I partition it with a swap boot and a rootfs.  then make a image.  Here is where the issue is. After creating the image I try to use resizsefs both from the command line but also from gparted and it will not let me shrink it down (rootfs) there is only about 1.3 gigs of data on the rootfs.  not sure why it is saying that the min size is 2.7 gigs
[18:13] <hajer> hhhh
[18:16] <rypervenche> jimcornette: Can you show us the exact command(s) you're using and the output in a oastebin please?
[18:16] <jimcornette> rypervenche,  sure give me a second
[18:18] <Beck> how do I install wine in lubuntu
[18:18] <rypervenche> jimcornette: Also a df -hT please
[18:19] <jimcornette> rypervenche,  the thing that makes the image http://pastebin.com/hcpnMJuX
[18:19] <Beck> I need a command to install wine in Lubuntu
[18:20] <OerHeks> Beck, open your softwarecenter,, and search for wine?
[18:20] <Beck> a sudo command
[18:20] <ProstheticS> hmm, ive jsut swapped over from fedora to ubuntu, im running fallout new vegas in wine, which wasnt a problem in fedora, and isnt in ubuntu, but im getting a weird efect in ubuntu, its like its pulsing my frame rate, but really smoothly. so that all frames within a second, come thorugh in the first half of said second, and then it slows down untill the next pulse
[18:20] <jimcornette> rypervenche, please hold while I take pictures from remote
[18:20] <ProstheticS> (im using the same wine virtual drive because i didnt remove my home directory)
[18:20] <rypervenche> jimcornette: Oh, this is very specific. I'm not going to be able to help from my phone.
[18:21] <OerHeks> Beck, sudo apt-get install <package>
[18:21] <ProstheticS> anyone ever had this weird pulsing in wine, its happening to a few games that i use wine for, since i swapped
[18:21] <ObrienDave> ProstheticS, that would be a wine issue, #winehq
[18:23] <DJJeff> I found package "libgd2-xpm" in precise but I run trusty
[18:24] <DJJeff> I need this package to run a game I found online
[18:24] <jimcornette> Here is gparted error http://i.imgur.com/pAYRTHM.png  http://i.imgur.com/201bhva.png
[18:26] <ioria> !info libgd2-xpm-dev trusty
[18:30] <O_Andrew> Hello there friends! I forgot my password on an ubuntu 14.04 machine, I tried booting into recovery, but instead of showing the recovery menu, it just goes into the login screen normally (?), are there any other boot options i can set in order to reset my password?
[18:31] <em> this channel is much less active than I remember it being back in 'the day'.
[18:32] <O_Andrew> em: maybe this just means that less peopel are having problems with ubuntu? :-) Although this is kinda -offtopic
[18:32] <ioria> O_Andrew, you should enter grub with shift ... it's Ubu the only OS ?
[18:34] <rypervenche> !password | O_Andrew
[18:34] <em> DJJeff: this is a little bit experimental so don't just take my word for it but depending on its dependencies you could try getting the package manually from the website it is on.. probably looks like package-name.deb and then use: sudo dpkg -i on it
[18:37] <osman> hello
[18:37] <osman> muslims
[18:37] <osman> ramadaaaaan
[18:37] <osman> alahuekber
[18:37] <osman> ĆĆ
[18:37] <OerHeks> !ot > osman
[18:37] <O_Andrew> rypervenche, appending init=/bin/bash into the boot options did the trick! Thank you!
[18:42] <ProstheticS> obrien: btw, it was an ubuntu issue , which ive fixed now. you shouldnt just see the word wine and assume that its a wine fault so they should deal
[18:42] <ProstheticS> but regardless, im just happy my problems fixed :D
[18:45] <ObrienDave> ProstheticS, you kept mentioning wine. if you want better answers, please supply better !details
[18:48] <Proksima> I just finished setup a PXE server and a PXE client in VMs. My PXE server also host a DHCP server that works for all devices in my house (they have internet access). However, while all the network settings of the PXE client (ip, router's ip, dns servers, etc.) seems accurate,  it   cannot access external websites (but see all the devices in the int
[18:48] <Proksima> ernal network). Not sure if it is relevant, but since DHCP discovery is done before boot, I have set NetworkManager so that it does not try to manage my  network connection. Any idea on how to allow my clients to access internet?
[18:48] <shingshang> is there any way to disable these "system program problem detected" windows?
[18:49] <ioria> clear /var/crash
[18:49] <shingshang> but what if /var/crash gets repopulated again
[18:50] <ioria> with the same error ?
[18:50] <bekks> clear it
[18:50] <shingshang> yeah, gnome-panel crashes every now and then it seems
[18:50] <bunty> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 rarring on my nexus 7, but I am facing problems. Anybody has any idea about ubuntu on tablet?
[18:51] <bekks> 13.10 is not supported anymore.
[18:51] <ioria> shingshang, gnome flash-back ?
[18:52] <bekks> !raring > bunty
[18:52] <ObrienDave> BTW anyone missing seeing * for password feedback; http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/ubuntu-display-asterisks-when-typing-password-terminal/
[18:52] <shingshang> ioria: gnome-panel, not flash-back. anyways, I disabled apport
[18:52] <shingshang> so that'll probably get rid of the error reporter
[18:52] <ioria> shingshang, also with guest account ?
[18:53] <shingshang> ioria: I have no idea what you're talking about
[18:53] <OerHeks> bunty, join #ubuntu-touch for nexus support
[18:53] <ioria> shingshang, you can create a new user or you can try the guest account ... to test if the problem is related to your personal settings
[18:54] <blz> On ubuntu 14.04, the process/service manager is upstart, correct?
[18:54] <bunty> OerHeks: I had ubuntu touch but no support for RTSP so trying ubunut desktop on tablet
[18:54] <jimcornette> bunty, this is with mutli rom and super su ?
[18:55] <jimcornette> IE dual and triple boot ?
[18:55] <jimcornette> quad boot haveever many boots you want that is.
[18:55] <jimcornette> how *
[18:56] <amanthakur> Hi guys, I have installed Ubuntu 14. But My ubuntu keeps displaying me that "System program problem detected. Send report?" Can anyone tell me how can i fix it? I have good internet connection and i can install anything from the Repositories. But i need to know what is the problem.
[18:57] <bekks> amanthakur: Which Ubuntu 14 - 14.04 or 14.10?
[18:57] <amanthakur> 14.04 LTS
[18:57] <amanthakur> bekks, 14.04 LTS
[19:00] <amanthakur> bekks, is there a way to repair my ubuntu installation with CD/DVD or Pen drive? I can use the Internet.
[19:00] <BuzzardBuzz> amanthakur: did you install all the updates from the repository already?
[19:01] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, The update daemon is crashing.
[19:02] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, the window says "It seems daemon died"
[19:02] <BuzzardBuzz> if i were you i would check the install media and you might need to reinstall
[19:02] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, can i do that without CD/DVD?
[19:03] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, can i do that without CD/DVD or without pen drive?
[19:03] <BuzzardBuzz> yes you can use a flash drive
[19:03] <amanthakur> can i do it from the internet?
[19:03] <BuzzardBuzz> what media did you install from?
[19:04] <amanthakur> it was a pen drive
[19:04] <amanthakur> 1.8 gb only
[19:04] <amanthakur> i think that's the problem that it might need a bigger pen drive
[19:04] <amanthakur> but i have only 1.8gb
[19:05] <BuzzardBuzz> let me hand you a larger drive, you can borrow it for a time
[19:05] <ObrienDave> unless you use the mini ISO, 4GB minimum for live system on pen drive
[19:06] <OerHeks> 1.1 gb, the iso is not that big
[19:06] <BuzzardBuzz> OerHeks says you are fine!
[19:06] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, thanks but i'll buy it later :)
[19:07] <BuzzardBuzz> cool
[19:07] <amanthakur> OerHeks, can i install from Mini ISO and convert that installation to the ubuntu desktop???
[19:10] <gambl0re> if install a file using make install how do i uninstall it?
[19:10] <gambl0re> there is no make uninstall file
[19:11] <jimcornette> amanthakur, do you know how to use tasksel ?
[19:11] <OerHeks> gambl0re, run make uninstall
[19:11] <OerHeks> amanthakur, sure, the mini iso gives a text menu to install any desktop
[19:11] <gambl0re> run command not found
[19:11] <DJones> gambl0re: If there's no "make uninstall", then I suspect you're knackered
[19:12] <em> OerHeks: the mini iso of ubutu gives a choice of desktops?
[19:12] <OerHeks> em yes
[19:13] <jimcornette> yeah it uses tasksel I think lol
[19:13] <amanthakur> OerHeks, i just checked the pen drive using the Check For Error option from the grub. And it has issues.
[19:13] <gambl0re> ricky@vbox:~/Downloads/watchman$ sudo make uninstall
[19:13] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/bin' && rm -f watchman )
[19:13] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/share/doc/watchman-3.2.0' && rm -f README.markdown )
[19:13] <ioria> gambl0re, check the Makefile... should be a target  'uninstall', if not you have to track the make install and remove the files by hand, maybe with a script
[19:13] <em> OerHeks: does it also let you set up full disk encryption?
[19:13] <amanthakur> jimcornette, nopes sorry
[19:13] <gambl0re> does that mean i just delete the folders manually?
[19:13] <OerHeks> em, i don't know that
[19:14] <OerHeks> if it is part of the desktop installer, i think so, but not sure.
[19:14] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/share/doc/watchman-3.2.0' && rm -f README.markdown )
[19:14] <gambl0re> ricky@vbox:~/Downloads/watchman$ sudo make uninstall
[19:14] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/bin' && rm -f watchman )
[19:14] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/share/doc/watchman-3.2.0' && rm -f README.markdown )
[19:15] <blib> how do I format my 32GB usb drive so that windows 7 can read / write to it?
[19:15] <OerHeks> gambl0re, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[19:15] <gambl0re> does that mean i just remove the folders manually?
[19:15] <blib> ubuntu 14.04 here
[19:15] <OerHeks> blib format with windows 7
[19:15] <blib> OerHeks: windows 7 only sees the 32GB drive as 2.15MB
[19:16] <gambl0re> what do those lines mean?
[19:16] <DJones> blib: In that case, you need to speak to MS support
[19:17] <DJones> blib: Ubuntu can't format in a way that Windows can see extra beyond what it believes
[19:19] <OerHeks> blib could be a fake usb drive from china too
[19:19] <OerHeks> or just broken
[19:20] <gambl0re> i see a bunch of crackers in here...
[19:23] <ObrienDave> oooooooo, racist remark
[19:23] <DJones> gambl0re: Generally, if you install something manually, the best support option is to go to the people who provided the software, #ubuntu won't know what changes/damage the software has done
[19:24] <gambl0re> i fixed it thanks..
[19:26] <ielo> hi thought you all might appreciate this cute story
[19:26] <ielo> my mum i installed linux on her computer like 5 years ago
[19:26] <ielo> anyhow she gets scammers calling her phone pretending to be ms reps telling her she has a virus
[19:27] <ielo> and she tells them i'm not using windows i'm using linux so how can i have a virus
[19:27] <ielo> and then they hanged up on her
[19:27] <ielo> another cute story for y'all
[19:27] <grinchier> lol
[19:28] <Mandeep_Singh> +1
[19:28] <ielo> when i went home i saw a hd in the garden in a pot full of water and like pond lillies
[19:28] <ielo> hardrive
[19:28] <ielo> and i asked her
[19:28] <ielo> why she did that
[19:28] <OerHeks> ielo, for storytelling join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> ielo  tell that story in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:28] <ielo> and she said she wanted to destroy the information on it
[19:28] <ielo> ok sorry
[19:28] <ielo> im done
[19:28] <potatopotato_pot> destroy all software..
[19:29] <ielo> join us now and share the software
[19:29] <gambl0re> i use to work in a call centre and i had lots of people calling in saying they had a virus from a person that called them
[19:29] <gambl0re> they target the grandmas...
[19:30] <ielo> my mum is using my sisters windows pc atm and its infected as fuck and we alwys tell her not to download stuff but ...
[19:30] <grinchier> lol
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> gambl0re  ielo stick to support questions
[19:30] <DJones> ielo: Do  you have an ubuntu support issue?  If not, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##defocus
[19:31] <bekks> ... you didnt tell her to not click on links in mails? ;)
[19:31] <grinchier> ielo  change the group policy so she can't
[19:31] <ObrienDave> !ot | ielo
[19:31] <ielo> sorry ok
[19:32] <ielo> ok just one more funny, back in the day we used to play command and conquer and the browser everyone used was konqueror and she'd get really annyed and say 'i don't know how to use this bloody command and konqueror'
[19:32] <grinchier> ielo: if you have a home version without group policy controls you can use this addon  http://iwrconsultancy.co.uk/softwarepolicy
[19:33] <DJones> ielo: Last warning, please stay on topic, "one more funny" isn't on topic
[19:34] <grinchier> who is a duppy konqueror?
[19:34] <Nietzschean> hi everyone, hope you are having a pleasant Saturday :)
[19:34] <compdoc> me me!
[19:35] <duke2410> hello all
[19:35] <duke2410> i have a problem with php5.4
[19:35] <duke2410> i installed openssql 1.0.2.c from source and curl 7.43. from source
[19:35] <duke2410> my system is 12.04
[19:36] <Nietzschean> I am having a problem with rutorrent. its probably a really simple fix for someone who knows more about linux. can anyone try to help me out? I sure would appreciate it
[19:36] <duke2410> but in phpinfo i see OpenSSL Library Version => OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 OpenSSL Header Version => OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009
[19:37] <duke2410> jemand der deutsch spricht hier?
[19:38] <DJones> !de | duke2410
[19:38] <grinchier> Nietzschean: i don't even know what that is I use transmission
[19:38] <duke2410> ok danke
[19:38] <ibouvousaime> Do you guys know a good equivalent to gparted that has a live CD version and is smaller than 128 mb ?
[19:39] <grinchier> ibouvousaime: pencilandpaper does
[19:40] <ibouvousaime> he is having a walk grinchier
[19:40] <grinchier> lol
[19:40] <Nietzschean> thanks grinchier.  it  is a web interface for rtorrent, I used the seedbox-from-scratch script to install it, everything else is showing up correctly, just not rutorrent
[19:40] <grinchier> never heard of rtorrent either sorry
[19:41] <rypervenche> Nietzschean: rtorrent and rutorrent are very old. I would recommend you try out deluge and its web part.
[19:41] <Nietzschean> hmmm ok thanks
[19:41] <rypervenche> Or qbittorrent
[19:41] <__nemo__> ibouvousaime: cant you just use the ubuntu boot-usbstick? gparted works from the liveboot
[19:41] <grinchier> __nemo__: he needs something less then 128mb
[19:41] <__nemo__> oh well
[19:42] <ibouvousaime> I only have a 128 mb USB drive with me right now
[19:42] <grinchier> tiny linux
[19:42] <ibouvousaime> exaclty grinchier
[19:42] <Nietzschean> the seedbox-from-scratch script installed deluge too, does deluge work with IRSSI?
[19:42] <rypervenche> Nietzschean: Define "work with".
[19:43] <grinchier> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[19:43] <DJones> ibouvousaime: You could look at damm small linux
[19:43] <grinchier> ^
[19:43] <DJones> But not sure if it has live usb
[19:43] <grinchier> it does
[19:43] <BuzzardBuzz> yes damn small linux is 50MB
[19:44] <grinchier> there is smaller versions of puppy too i believe
[19:44] <Nietzschean> haha.. well i have never used it before, i have been using utorrent on my windows home server, but decided i wanted to setup my extra laptop to run linux and some seedbox type auto-dl scripts to for some private trackers
[19:44] <ibouvousaime> humm does it have gparted DJones ?
[19:44] <grinchier> Nietzschean: transmission is a good one
[19:45] <ibouvousaime> or something similar DJones
[19:45] <ibouvousaime> ?*
[19:45] <BuzzardBuzz> if it dont you can install gparted
[19:45] <ioria> ibouvousaime, http://kolibrios.org/en/
[19:46] <grinchier> ibouvousaime: it doesn't
[19:46] <ioria> 18 mb :-)
[19:46] <grinchier> what are you trying to do with gparted?
[19:46] <grinchier> it does have parted though
[19:46] <grinchier> just not gparted
[19:47] <grinchier> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_mono/parted.html#SEC8
[19:47] <dolf> Hi folks. I just did fresh install of ubuntu 15.04. Installed it in EFI mode, and opted to encrypt the os disk. Now I'm using a lenovo keyboard, but it seems the hid-lenovo module isn't loaded when asking for a passphrase. How could I add that? I thought I should use update-initramfs, but that seems to be different with EFI?
[19:52] <leafybasil> Any DWM users here?  I tried freshly patching dwm6.0 with pango, but when I set the font to my powerline one it doesnt render anything, do I need pango AND xft patches?
[19:58] <DJJeff> cairo dock is nice is there an IRC channel for this software on freenode?
[19:58] <DJJeff> or is there an even better or newer dock that compares to cairo dock
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  type /j #cairo
[19:59] <DJJeff> cause I think cairo dock has not been updated in some time now
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  15.04 has 'plank', iirc
[19:59] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: can you help me
[19:59] <DJJeff> has that been tested on 14.04 trusty ?
[19:59] <easyOnMe> I just installed MiniTube
[19:59] <LeMike> DJJeff: try kupfer ;) not a dock but finds everything even in browser history or your docs
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  it's not in trusty
[19:59] <easyOnMe> and it returns an error everytime I search of a video
[20:00] <easyOnMe> can anyone help me my MiniTube is not able to search for videos
[20:00] <easyOnMe> I just installed it just now
[20:01] <daftykins> from where?
[20:01] <easyOnMe> it says error downloading http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api etc etc
[20:02] <daftykins> where did you download this program?
[20:02] <xangua> probably Youtube changed something in the api
[20:02] <easyOnMe> from the Software Center
[20:02] <histo> easyOnMe: youtube changes their api stuff all the time.
[20:02] <daftykins> xangua: +1 my thoughts exactly
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  try youtube-dl in the terminal
[20:03] <kostkon> easyOnMe, you could try the latest version from the official website http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[20:03] <kostkon> easyOnMe, download the .deb, double-click on it
[20:04] <easyOnMe> kostkon: thanks
[20:05] <zorg24> Can anyone help me make sure I have latest version of iwlwifi, because my wifi is working, but the speeds are horrible (works fine if I boot into windows though)
[20:05] <easyOnMe> kostkon: shall I uninstall my old minitube first before I install the one from the website
[20:05] <kostkon> easyOnMe, not needed
[20:06] <easyOnMe> kostkon: ok thanks
[20:06] <kostkon> easyOnMe, or ok go ahead, remove the old first
[20:06] <easyOnMe> kostkon: no need
[20:06] <kostkon> easyOnMe, just do it (tm)
[20:07] <easyOnMe> when I opened the file software center opened it for me and it says upgrade
[20:07] <easyOnMe> so I just clicked upgrade
[20:07] <kostkon> easyOnMe, good then. all is fine
[20:07] <easyOnMe> kostkon: hopefully it is still installing the upgrades
[20:11] <easyOnMe> i just run this command just now: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:11] <easyOnMe> and this is what I got
[20:11] <easyOnMe> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:11] <easyOnMe> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:11] <easyOnMe> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:11] <easyOnMe> this is the first time I am encountering this problem
[20:12] <xangua> easyOnMe: software centre-edit menu-sources-very first tab- disable cd
[20:12] <easyOnMe> can anyone tell me what I can do
[20:14] <easyOnMe> xangua: what does your solution do
[20:15] <grinchier> easyOnMe: edit the sources file and comment it out
[20:15] <easyOnMe> grinchier: where and how
[20:16] <grinchier> easyOnMe: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=388
[20:16] <grinchier> look for the cd line and put the # in front
[20:17] <OerHeks> softwarecenter > edit >sources will do too
[20:22] <erwin> is there a way to download youtube videos using MiniTube
[20:22] <erwin> I have been
[20:22] <erwin> looking all over the menus but nothing seems to show any download features
[20:23] <grinchier> erwin: there are some firefox addons that do that
[20:23] <erwin> how
[20:23] <OerHeks> !info youtube-dl
[20:23] <erwin> where can I download those addons
[20:24] <erwin> OerHeks: what does !info youtube-dl mean
[20:24] <OerHeks> the bot is offline, i see
[20:24] <DalekSec> OerHeks: Nope, just laggy.
[20:24] <OerHeks> youtube-dl is a script to download
[20:24] <DalekSec> Netsplits, and all.
[20:24] <ObrienDave> extra laggy ;P
[20:25] <OerHeks> erwin, else open firefox app page, and search?
[20:25] <erwin> OerHeks: I just downloaded a firefox addon
[20:26] <meandrain> Hi. Anybody has experience with DTrace 4 Linux ?
[20:27] <OerHeks> meandrain,  dtrace is not available for "debian" / ubuntu
[20:27] <erwin> grinchier: so how do I use the firefox addon to download the youtube video
[20:28] <erwin> I just installed one on firefox
[20:28] <meandrain> OerHeks: this works:  https://github.com/dtrace4linux/linux
[20:28] <OerHeks> meandrain, so what is your question then?
[20:30] <OerHeks> s
[20:30] <meandrain> OerHeks: Online providers will work ok. What does not work:  ./script.d -c "./a.out"   Will not run ./a.out binary
[20:30] <erwin> I got it
[20:31] <plunkett> i have a problem with my gui on audacity
[20:31] <OerHeks> meandrain, sorry, it is not offical supported.
[20:31] <OerHeks> (her)
[20:45] <tomivs> Hi
[20:46] <tomivs> What video editor do you recommend/use?
[20:46] <NegativeFlare> tomivs: Pitivi
[20:46] <moses_> does changing the xconfig/monitors file refresh tag work in 14.04?
[20:46] <NegativeFlare> Personally
[20:48] <ownix123> if I am running Ubuntu live off a flash drive, will the changes I make persists?
[20:48] <daftykins> only if you set up the flash drive with a persistence file
[20:48] <daftykins> !persistence
[20:55] <Corey84> unholding a  pkg  via apt-get cmd  line  is  what  ?
[20:55] <Corey84> apt-get  ?
[20:56] <usafbeach> --ignore-hold
[20:58] <usafbeach> or apt-mark unhold pkg
[20:59] <g0th_> hi
[21:00] <g0th_> how can I check if a mounted usb drive is working at usb3 speed?
[21:00] <lord_daemon> g0th_ good question
[21:00] <lord_daemon> i also want to know
[21:01] <g0th_> i.e. how do I "connect" the mount information to e.g. lsusb
[21:06] <zorg24> I'm having a weird issue where my wifi connection is very slow in ubuntu, its a laptop with an Intel 6300, I'd greatly appreciate any help figuring out what's wrong
[21:13] <Guest99407> hi all
[21:20] <PurEtChaste> Hi
[21:20] <dtscode> If I sudo apt-get purge my gcc(1), will it a) completely remove it, and b) will I be able to get it
[21:20] <dtscode> If I sudo apt-get purge my gcc(1), will it a) completely remove it, and b) will I be able to get it
[21:22] <moses_> does anyone know how to get xrandr to work ?
[21:23] <moses_> it stopped working after I changed to dual monitors through nvidia
[21:23] <goesmin> '# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde' fails at an "Input/output error" at 3.2GB in every single time. S.M.A.R.T. reports no ptoblems with the drive. thoughts?
[21:24] <PurEtChaste> can anyone help me install java and intelliJ ?
[21:24] <bekks> PurEtChaste: Whats the issue with installing java?
[21:25] <PurEtChaste> I don't know, the system don't recognize it i would say. I dowloaded the .bz2 and untar it, is there anything else to do?
[21:33] <leafybasil> Hey all, can anyone tell me why some commands I execute before DWM work, and others do not?  "xset" seems to work fine but "setxkbmap" doesn't until after DWM is loaded
[21:35] <PurEtChaste_> Hi again, i have issues installing java jre and jdk in order to install intelliJ.
[21:35] <bekks> Which issue?
[21:36] <PurEtChaste_> So i dowloaded the files and untar it as I said, but when it comes to install intelliJ i have an error telling me that no jre or jdk is installed
[21:36] <PurEtChaste_> to insall jre and jdk i followed the steps described on the oracle website
[21:37] <bekks> !java | PurEtChaste_
[21:38] <PurEtChaste_> I'll try it
[21:48] <PurEtChaste_> ok so actually, as the oracle versions seemed not to be working i installed the openJDK ones and it is now ok. Thank you
[22:02] <fxmulder> I'm looking to resetup a machine, looking at the partition table it looks like it is using GPT and is setup like http://nsab.us/public/linux  Any idea what creates partitions like this?
[22:09] <iamthellama> Hi. Small emergency here. I just tried to install ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8.1. The partitioning in the installer failed, though, completely, and now my primary hard drive is not visible--not even in gparted. A little help?
[22:10] <le_pig> .
[22:13] <iamthellama> Hi. Small emergency here. I just tried to install ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8.1. The partitioning in the installer failed, though, completely, and now my primary hard drive is not visible--not even in gparted. A little help?
[22:15] <grinchier> not visible?
[22:20] <thebot> hello
[22:21] <iamthellama> Hi. Small emergency here. I just tried to install ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8.1. The partitioning in the installer failed, though, completely, and now my primary hard drive is not visible--not even in gparted. A little help?
[22:22] <daftykins> iamthellama: reboot
[22:22] <thebot> not sure, can you still boot into windows? iamthellama
[22:22] <mach20x> Turned my PC on today and the BIOS won't POST...
[22:22] <iamthellama> daftykins: I rebooted, no bootable media was found. I'm now in a liveboot of ubuntu.
[22:23] <iamthellama> thebot: No I cannot.
[22:23] <ianorlin> mach20x: that could easily be a hardware problem not something wrong with ubuntu so ##hardware might get you better results
[22:23] <iamthellama> thebot: bios says no bootable media found.
[22:23] <mach20x> Does a boot from recovery mode keep we in a full root mode status?
[22:23] <mach20x> In Ubuntu 15.04
[22:24] <ianorlin> mach20x: if you get to were it say recovery mode it does post you are at the bootloader
[22:24] <thebot> hmm...I would say
[22:24] <mach20x> No it isn't now
[22:24] <iamthellama> fdisk -l does show, I *think* what essentially was being used as windows' swap partition still being there? It's a 128MB partition that is type "microsoft reserved"
[22:24] <iamthellama> that's on /dev/sda1.
[22:24] <mach20x> But before this happened I was using recovery mode
[22:25] <daftykins> iamthellama: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted l | pastebinit
[22:25] <thebot> what does fdisk -l show, does it show the drive and the partitions?
[22:25] <daftykins> iamthellama: that is not even vaguely swap.
[22:25] <guest8574> Is there a 32-bit version of Dolphin Emulator available for Ubuntu?
[22:26] <iamthellama> this is fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/ZfWSHNt1
[22:27] <zorlac> hello all
[22:27] <mach20x> I'm asking so that I can rule out the possibility that it is a bit of malicious logic that ran to Fry my BIOS while in root mode (assuming full root after boot from recovery mode)
[22:27] <iamthellama> daftykins: does it matter? I'm not sure what windows uses it for, you get the idea.
[22:28] <iamthellama> daftykins: got an error trying to install pastebinit "Error: Could not stat device l - No such file or directory."
[22:28] <iamthellama> liveboot problem?
[22:30] <mach20x> Again, does anyone know if full root privileges carry after a boot from recovery mode?
[22:30] <iamthellama> daftykins: here it is done manually: http://pastebin.com/4Zgf4HAj
[22:30] <iamthellama> daftykins: the 1TB is a second hard drive, unrelated to my problem.
[22:31] <iamthellama> the 16gb is my usb stick I'm livebooting off of.
[22:31] <zorlac> QUESTION.  how come when i connect to irc on my laptop, my http server log says <IP_ADDRESS>2 -- "CONNECT <IP_ADDRESS>:6667
[22:32] <daftykins> iamthellama: accuracy in tech matters, yes
[22:33] <daftykins> iamthellama: that 8 does not look EFI installed
[22:33] <daftykins> oh that 1TB
[22:33] <daftykins> iamthellama: desktop system?
[22:34] <mach20x> zorlac: <IP_ADDRESS> is within the loopback range, so search one the function of loopback for your irc client
[22:34] <iamthellama> daftykins:  No, heavy duty dell, dual hard drives in place of cd drive
[22:34] <mach20x> On now one
[22:34] <mach20x> Not not now
[22:35] <mach20x> Hate my phone sometimes “damn autocorrect”:-P
[22:35] <daftykins> iamthellama: power off, remove mains power + battery, jab the power button a few times, then reassemble and boot back in and repeat the sudo parted -l
[22:35] <iamthellama> daftykins: for what it's worth, the installer said my preexisting install seemed to not be UEFI. Not sure if it knew what is was talking about. It's a standard windows 8.1 install, can't imagine why it wouldn't be UEFI. That said, I followed its instructions and clicked the checkbox it offered me accordingly.
[22:35] <iamthellama> daftykins: I'll do it, but can I ask why that would change anything?
[22:35] <daftykins> not before hand, no :)
[22:36] <iamthellama> daftykins: tjat
[22:36] <iamthellama> daftykins: that's super inconvenient, I'd really rather not do that if it's not for a good reason. I've rebooted twice, I don't see why stronger powercycling should change anything....
[22:37] <daftykins> you have two choices, sit there with a broken install not making progress... or try it.
[22:37] <daftykins> i fail to see how it's inconvenient to power off a system that's not working.
[22:39] <iamthellama> daftykins:  Why can't you just explain your reasoning? It is inconvient for several reasons. I have four cables hooked into this computer as part of a multi monitor setup. I have several windows open and am trying to problem solve this in several ways. I have had to use one of my backup codes for two factor authentication because I don't have a wor
[22:39] <iamthellama> king phone at the moment, making that process a pain. To use my browser as a phone, i had to install the voice plugin and restart firefox. Etc.
[22:40] <daftykins> i want to see the SATA controllers reset.
[22:40] <ash__> I'm trying to upgrade xubuntu 14.04 to 15.04 but after issuing the command "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" I get a "ConnectionResetError: (Errno 104) Connection reset by peer"
[22:40] <iamthellama> daftykins: that's kind of a longshot, you think I experienced a hardware failure?
[22:41] <daftykins> the disk isn't showing, either you share a dmesg and we stare at some SATA port detection errors and go "hrmm i wonder why it's not talking..." which leads to the suggestion of just doing as i instructed anyway :)
[22:41] <daftykins> anyway your call, we can talk about it until the cows come home and go to university, or take action :)
[22:43] <[almark]> trivia like sata cables correctly pluged in?
[22:44] <daftykins> laptop so not quite so likely
[22:44] <[almark]> hmmm
[22:44] <daftykins> i would certainly hope they're plugged in and screwed in :)
[22:45] <ash__> is there any way to start the release upgrade from the beginning ?
[22:45] <iamthellama> daftykins: yeah, you bet. I do have some dmesg errors, if you are interested. http://pastebin.com/n29nsz3z
[22:45] <daftykins> not until the above is done
[22:45] <daftykins> you see, those are SATA link resets due to having issues talking to the drive
[22:45] <daftykins> so.. as suggested the controllers need a reset which = total power down
[22:45] <daftykins> :)
[22:46] <iamthellama> daftykins: I have never heard of this. I'm truly baffled how taking the battery out and cutting all power could affect the SATA ports. Are you telling me they have some kind of state memory of their own or something?
[22:47] <daftykins> for the love of Tux you said this was an emergency, will you just go and do it already?
[22:47] <MonkeyDu2t_> iamthellama  what daftykins suggsts, resets your pc
[22:47] <iamthellama> daftykins: -_- fine.
[22:51] <Moonlightning> I've got Utopic Unicorn on a laptop, and while most of the -function keys- seem to do what they say (the volume keys, in particular), the brightness keys don't--IIRC, pressing the brightness-down key suspends the system and pressing the brightness-up key does nothing.
[22:52] <Moonlightning> (Those two keys are alternately F2 and F3)
[22:53] <Moonlightning> I'm looking under Settings -> Keyboard, and I see that most of the not-really-function keys here, but I don't see anything for brightness
[22:54] <Jamie_1> hey for some odd reason i keep having problems with my computer recovering from hibernation or the such... the mouse will appear but the screen will remain black other than that. If i go into tty and run the startx it does not seem to start the xserver
[22:55] <iamthellama> daftykins: Hi.
[22:55] <iamthellama> daftykins: gparted shows nothing different.
[22:56] <Moonlightning> ...oh, no, I take that back. The toggle-wifi and toggle-trackpad keys don't do anything, either.
[22:56] <daftykins> i don't care about that program, logs please - starting with dmesg
[22:57] <iamthellama> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/2JukfWyP
[22:57] <Jamie_1> I still have the swap on but the swappiness is turned down to 10 due to I know if i turn it off it wont sleep properly
[22:58] <Jamie_1> problem is that i am loosing progress on stuff when it goes to sleep and wont wake up... lost about 90 lines of code last time.
[22:58] <bekks> because the swap space is where it sleeps.
[22:58] <bekks> Jamie_1: Safe your code regularly.
[22:58] <Jamie_1> bekks: i know that... that is why i only turned it down instead of off
[22:59] <Jamie_1> bekks: I know... I need to make better habit of that
[22:59] <Moonlightning> Jamie_1: get an editor that autosaves or uses swapfiles. :)
[22:59] <Jamie_1> Moonlightning: I use sublime
[23:00] <Jamie_1> but my thing is, is there a way to fix this or find the cause
[23:00] <Anf> Es klappt einfach nicht, er mountet sich einfach nicht
[23:00] <daftykins> iamthellama: and you absolutely disconnected every single cable, the adapter... every battery... etc?
[23:00] <frant> How do I show missing files?
[23:00] <Anf> Sorry wrong chenell
[23:00] <bekks> frant: Missing file where?
[23:01] <Moonlightning> frant: In what context? Command line, graphical file browser...?
[23:01] <MonkeyDu2t_> frant  if you mean hidden file: ctrl h
[23:01] <Jamie_1> oh and it keeps constantly giving me the messages of an internal error has occurred
[23:01] <iamthellama> daftykins: unplugged both monitors, usb keyboard, power, removed battery completely, let it sit, hit power button several times,  let it sit, and then replugged everything and restarted.
[23:02] <frant> not missing, hidden
[23:02] <Jamie_1> ctrl+h
[23:02] <daftykins> iamthellama: ok, so presumably Windows absolutely doesn't work either? :) system doesn't find a boot disk at all?
[23:03] <iamthellama> daftykins: doesn't even try to boot. Total failure. No boot disk. Bootable list shows nothing other than this usb drive.
[23:03] <daftykins> iamthellama: funky, alright power off, remove both disks, put the disk that's storage only to one side - then put the OS disk inside where the storage only disk is and boot the live session again
[23:04] <Jamie_1> any suggestions on what to do about my computer not waking properly
[23:05] <daftykins> Jamie_1: are you using any proprietary drivers? e.g. for graphics?
[23:05] <Jamie_1> i am using the nvidia... let me check which one...
[23:05] <daftykins> with which card and/or chip?
[23:06] <iamthellama> daftykins: So you're saying to remove the 1TB, and take the non-responsive SSD and stick it where the 1TB is right now, and then boot up and come back here?
[23:06] <daftykins> iamthellama: yep. ah SSD, which model?
[23:06] <daftykins> iamthellama: oh and make sure you're booting up with none of that extra junk plugged in - try with the bare minimum
[23:07] <iamthellama> daftykins: OCZ ARC 100 240GB SSD 2.5"
[23:07] <iamthellama> daftykins: for the sake of making dmesg easier to read?
[23:07] <daftykins> no for whether i'm familiar with SSDs that've had firmware issues
[23:08] <daftykins> oh for the unplugging
[23:08] <iamthellama> yes
[23:08] <daftykins> when you're troubleshooting you run the simplest config possible
[23:08] <Jamie_1> daftykins: NVIDIA binary driver - verion 304.125
[23:08] <daftykins> Jamie_1: yep and device?
[23:08] <daftykins> ( lspci | pastebinit)
[23:09] <iamthellama> daftykins: welp, brb I guess.
[23:09] <daftykins> roger that
[23:09] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8837487
[23:10] <ePirat-> FreeManBounty, finally fixed it, thanks!
[23:10] <daftykins> Jamie_1: hmm looks like an original generation Core CPU, correct?
[23:11] <Jamie_1> yes
[23:11] <Jamie_1> I5 dual core
[23:11] <daftykins> Jamie_1: does 'additional drivers' offer you any other versions than the 304?
[23:11] <Jamie_1> yes many
[23:11] <daftykins> Jamie_1: also, does your swap file *exceed* the amount of RAM you have?
[23:11] <Jamie_1> no
[23:11] <daftykins> free -m vs cat /proc/meminfo
[23:11] <Jamie_1> I have 4 gb of ram
[23:12] <daftykins> and swap is...?
[23:12] <ozbrk> guys it is a really messy situtation here yet it is deffietly off-topic
[23:12] <Jamie_1> matches my memory daftykins
[23:12] <daftykins> !ot | ozbrk then go enjoy !
[23:13] <Jamie_1> currently there is no swap being used at all
[23:13] <daftykins> Jamie_1: ok try each of the drivers out and see if it alleviates the issue
[23:13] <Jamie_1> I swap back to the one i used to use
[23:13] <Jamie_1> *ill
[23:13] <daftykins> Jamie_1: start with the youngest editions as your hardware is very old
[23:13] <daftykins> so... 319 i think would be next
[23:14] <Jamie_1> yea i know...  but it still runs beautifully. I was using the x.org nouveau drivers
[23:15] <Jamie_1> I try to avoid the 331 drivers from nvidia due to a bug about it not working right currently
[23:16] <daftykins> not heard of that one
[23:16] <iamthellama> daftykins: I'm back.
[23:16] <daftykins> but there is 331 and 331-updates
[23:16] <Jamie_1> its open sourced
[23:16] <iamthellama> got errors on ata2 instead of ata this time.
[23:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: what is?
[23:16] <iamthellama> So it's the drive, not the SATA port.
[23:16] <Jamie_1> the nouveau drivers
[23:16] <daftykins> iamthellama: mmhmm, wouldn't hurt to try in another system
[23:16] <Jamie_1> daftykins: also if you dont mind me asking... since the topic came up... what i a great newish not to expensive laptop that will work great with ubuntu
[23:17] <iamthellama> daftykins: what do you mean?
[23:17] <daftykins> Jamie_1: no i know what nouveau is lol, i meant the alleged bug
[23:17] <daftykins> iamthellama: the SSD...
[23:17] <daftykins> Jamie_1: sorry i don't do shopping, that's a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:17] <iamthellama> daftykins: Why? Didn't we just demonstrate that the problem is very clearly the drive, not the port?
[23:17] <Jamie_1> one sec it can give you the link... and it has never really worked for me... always caused problems
[23:18] <daftykins> iamthellama: you're not hugely open minded on this topic are you? :)
[23:18] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1431753
[23:18] <daftykins> iamthellama: would you not want to try all the easy things within your reach before labelling some hardware dead 0o
[23:18] <iamthellama> daftykins: are you suggested the hard drive was bricked? I didn't realize that was the only possible interpretation.
[23:19] <daftykins> i'm not assuming at all
[23:19] <daftykins> i'm suggesting _confirmation_ :)
[23:19] <daftykins> anyway, you know what to do now
[23:19] <iamthellama> daftykins: That's rather optimistic of you. But anyways, you're saying if it doesn't show up as readable in another computer, that means it is bricked?
[23:19] <ozbrk> at least I shared my storry there thenks for guiding me.  That's infuriating!
[23:20] <daftykins> don't use that language in here.
[23:20] <daftykins> also, who says Ubuntu is to blame?
[23:20] <daftykins> maybe it was just timing.
[23:20] <daftykins> OCZ SSD's are pretty notoriously terrible
[23:21] <iamthellama> daftykins: You're overstretching. They made some flawed ones years ago, this particular SSD, which I researched before I bought, was known to be reliable, well made, and fast. And Occam's razor definitely suggest that isn't a coincidence.
[23:21] <iamthellama> daftykins: this is cut and dry, I tried to partition it, it threw up a ton of errors during its attempt to partition, and now it is bricked. How that could be interpreted any other way is beyond me.
[23:21] <daftykins> iamthellama: oh and how many have you dealt with? :)
[23:22] <daftykins> bear in mind here that i have no alliegance to ubuntu as i don't even use it
[23:22] <daftykins> so i care not what the culprit was, really
[23:22] <daftykins> anywho, problem isolated
[23:22] <Bashing-om> iamthellama: daftykins I recently went round and round with ATA errors . Come to find out it ws my boot code(s) at fault. I got my grubs correct and that did resolve the ATA error conditioins. Your case, does the firmware even see the hard drives in the set up utility ?
[23:23] <daftykins> Bashing-om: mmm, i probably would've been tempted by a BIOS/EFI update
[23:23] <Jamie_1> thanks for the help daftykins... if that does not solve the problem I will come back at another time
[23:23] <daftykins> np
[23:23] <grinchier> how can I test my swap is working right?
[23:24] <iamthellama> daftykins: I don't rely on my own personal anecdotal experience to determine the reliability of a brand, I look up what's said online. How many I've dealt with doesn't really seem relevant. I've dealt with many SSDs, though, if that's what you mean, and this is one of the better ones I've dealt with, if not the best.
[23:24] <iamthellama> Bashing-om: so are you saying reinstalling grub fixed it?
[23:25] <iamthellama> Bashing-om: I'm not sure; I guess I should check to see if it's identified with bios in the bios menu? Is that what you're asking?
[23:26] <daftykins> iamthellama: whatever you say :)
[23:26] <Bashing-om> iamthellama: daftykins Has the lead here .. With the ATA error . My situation was corrected by getting all my grubs in-line ( I do multi boot and have multiple grubs).
[23:28] <Bashing-om> iamthellama: Id the firmware foes not detect the hard drives, then it is not passed to the operating system .
[23:36] <cracker> hi
[23:36] <cracker> hi
[23:37] <cracker> hi
[23:37] <cracker> hi
[23:37] <cracker> hi
[23:54] <mach20x> (mach20x) I have been using Ubuntu after running recovery, because the graphics tears on a normal boot. I want to know if unsecure root privileges are utilized when booting from recovery, that way I know whether or not malicious code could have affected the BIOS
[23:59] <grinchier> I don't think so


[02:45] <timClicks> is any special syntax required for cross-controller and/or cross-cloud CMR?
[03:17] <hpidcock> wallyworld: did your recent fixes fix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1880422 ?
[03:17] <mup> Bug #1880422: Bootstrapping manual controller on arm64 fails <manual-provider> <juju:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880422>
[03:17] <wallyworld> hmmm
[03:18] <wallyworld> maybe not
[03:18] <wallyworld> i'd need to look at the code
[03:19] <hpidcock> I can take a look
[03:19] <wallyworld> i think he just needs ---constraints "arch=arm64"
[03:19] <wallyworld> which is separate to my fix, that should already have worked
[04:05] <wallyworld> thumper: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11731
[04:39]  * thumper looks
[04:58] <thumper> wallyworld: done
[04:59] <wallyworld> ty
[05:06]  * thumper sighs...
[05:06] <thumper> I though I had all this sorted, now got weirdness
[05:10]  * thumper takes a deep breath
[05:10] <thumper> figured out why some of them are failing
[05:10] <thumper> FFS
[05:14] <hpidcock> thumper: did you turn it off and on again?
[05:20] <thumper> hpidcock: oh I wish it was that easy
[05:21] <thumper> now to go and fix tests that I've broken with the "fix"
[05:21] <thumper> this is the branch that will never die
[05:28] <thumper> ok... I think they are all passing now
[05:28] <thumper> if that's right, it will now be time to pull the branch apart to land in pieces
[05:28] <thumper> ugh... still need to write the upgrade step
[05:28] <thumper> can do that later
[05:28] <thumper> won't be landing that bit first anyway
[05:34]  * thumper pulls off a chunk to land
[05:46] <thumper> wallyworld, hpidcock: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11732
[05:46] <hpidcock> lookin
[05:47] <thumper> simple PR to just move stuff
[05:48] <thumper> hpidcock: I'm EODing, if you're happy, can you please $$merge$$ it?
[05:48]  * thumper out
[05:48] <hpidcock> sure thing
[08:13] <achilleasa> flxfoo: curious why you got the usage prompt; perhaps adding 'set -eux' at the top of the function should provide more info about what gets passed to nc? If you do come up with an improved version of the script by all means post it to that page for others to use
[10:05] <manadart_> achilleasa: Got time to review this one? Follows the original refactor you reviewed: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11734
[10:07] <achilleasa> manadart_: sure
[10:09] <flxfoo> achilleasa:I think the ssh client version with proxycommand change, not to use nc anymore
[10:30] <stickupkid> manadart_, achilleasa CR https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11733
[11:54] <hml> good morning
[12:47] <manadart_> Morning hml.
[12:47] <manadart_> Anyone able to review a forward merge? No conflicts. https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11735
[14:09] <hml> stickupkid: review please https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11722
[14:16] <stickupkid> hml, nice :+1:
[14:20] <hml> stickupkid:  ty
[14:21] <rick_h> petevg:  do you have time to pre-forrester?
[14:21] <rick_h> pre-wave?
[14:27] <manadart_> stickupkid: https://github.com/juju/description/pull/79
[14:28] <petevg> rick_h: I've got TGIF at 11am, my time. I'm free now, though. Want to jump into a hangout?
[14:29] <rick_h> petevg:  sure, tell you what let's hop in your tgif and I'll just eat the gap if that's ok
[14:29] <petevg> Sounds good :-)
[14:31] <rick_h> guild heads up I'm going to steal guimaas for demo work again kthx sorry
[14:31] <stickupkid> achilleasa, ^
[14:32] <achilleasa> stickupkid: got my own maas now :p
[14:44] <rick_h> achilleasa:  ooooh, fancy!
[14:52] <achilleasa> rick_h: there wasn't an easier/quicker way to test the OVS stuff so I finally bit the bullet and set up a local with the edge snap :D
[14:54] <rick_h> achilleasa:  cool
[15:53] <stickupkid> hml, find https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11736
[15:54] <hml> stickupkid: osm is a bundle, so i’m guessing the bundle contains wordpress
[15:54] <hml> stickupkid: so that makes sense to me for find
[15:54] <stickupkid> hml, osm is the k8s stuff
[15:55] <stickupkid> hml, https://jaas.ai/osm/bundle/44
[15:55] <hml> stickupkid: maybe not… i’ts a bundle, but no wordpress
[15:55] <stickupkid> hml, yeah... interesting though
[15:57] <stickupkid> hml, also it states that it's a charm, when it's a bundle, so we really should catch that?
[15:57] <hml> stickupkid: bug in api?
[15:57] <hml> stickupkid: we do catch it… just need to type the Type :-)
[15:58] <stickupkid> hml, it's really intesting, that they have a leaf call "charm"... I wonder if there is a better word for that
[15:59] <stickupkid> i.e. we have "type: bundle" and a leaf called "charm"
[15:59] <stickupkid> you get me?
[16:02] <hml> stickupkid: not following
[16:02] <stickupkid> ho?
[16:02] <hml> stickupkid: sure
[16:14] <rick_h> petevg:  did get the bootstrap to work with the new larger instances
[16:19] <petevg> rick_h: cool. I'm still working on azure (I've got my credentials all straightened out. I'll see what I can do to make sure that I get instances that are large enough myself.)
[16:36] <petevg> rick_h: how much ram and disk did you end up allocating to each node?
[16:38] <rick_h> petevg:  8gb ram k8s nodes
[16:38] <rick_h> I think they're two cores
[16:38] <rick_h> I think the key was getting from 4gb of ram default notes to the 8gb of ram ones
[16:41] <petevg> rich_h: cool. Thx!
[17:36] <thedac> coreycb: https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/KvKPxrMTkK/
[17:36] <thedac> cat /root/.pydistutils.cfg
[17:36] <thedac> [easy_install]
[17:36] <thedac> find_links = file:///var/lib/juju/agents/unit-octavia-0/charm/wheelhouse/
[17:36] <thedac> allow_hosts = ''
[17:36] <thedac> pip list |grep setup
[17:36] <thedac> setuptools     47.3.1
[17:36] <thedac> setuptools-scm 1.17.0
[17:36] <thedac> dpkg -l |grep setuptoo
[17:36] <thedac> ii  python3-setuptools               39.0.1-2                                    all          Python3 Distutils Enhancements
[17:36] <thedac> Could it be checking the wrong version of setuptools?
[17:42] <thedac> coreycb: setuptools_ver = _load_installed_versions('pip3').get('setuptools') is returning None
[18:46] <petevg> rick_h: what demo are you deploying on your k8s cluster? Just mongodb, or something else?
[18:49] <rick_h> petevg:  I'm getting a small kubeflow setup from the k8s team
[18:50] <petevg> rick_h: nice. Share it with me when you get it? (I've got a model theoretically running on AKS, but I need to test it to verify.)
[18:51] <rick_h> petevg:  yea, I'm using hte mongodb one to test with. Let me get you the bundle I'm using
[18:52] <rick_h> petevg:  https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/nrdyYwXMhw/
[18:52] <petevg> thx!
[18:54] <rick_h> petevg:  yea so that's just mongodb.yml and juju deploy ./mongodb.yaml and should work
[18:54]  * rick_h has to run the boy to a party, I'll check back in later
[19:41] <petevg> rick_h: AKS was pretty straightforward to bootstrap. Where would you like me to drop my notes?
[20:51] <rick_h> petevg:  email would be fine for now if that's cool
[21:20] <petevg> rick_h: sent. Have a great weekend!
[21:35] <rick_h> petevg:  ty you too


[20:14] <RicardoPerez> hi! anybody knows if there's a precompiled iTALC 1.0.11 Ubuntu package?
[20:16] <stgraber> ogra: ping
[20:17] <stgraber> ogra: I'll be arriving in Bangor at 14:49 on the Saturday (flying from Orlando to Philadelphia and then to Bangor)
[20:17] <stgraber> I still need to book highvoltage's flight but it'll very likely be the same
[20:28] <highvoltage> RicardoPerez: that might be something that we should include in the edubuntu ppa, I'm not aware of another repository where that version currently exists
[20:34] <stgraber> I still have 12 patches to port over to 1.0.11 (and see if some got merged upstream)
[20:35] <stgraber> after that, it'll be in the italc ppa and possibly copied over to edubuntu-stable if considered stable
[20:46] <RicardoPerez> highvoltage: thank you!
[20:47] <RicardoPerez> stgraber: that sounds great, thank you very much. could you please tell me where's the italc ppa?
[20:47] <highvoltage> RicardoPerez: thank stgraber, he's already working on a new package for you :)
[20:47] <RicardoPerez> of course, thank you very much in advance, stgraber :)
[20:47] <stgraber> RicardoPerez: edubuntu-italc
[20:47] <stgraber> or something like that ;)
[20:48] <stgraber> edubuntu-italc-devel that'd be
[20:48] <stgraber> https://edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-italc-devel/+archive/ppa
[20:48] <RicardoPerez> again, thank you very much, stgraber :)
[20:48] <stgraber> np
[20:48] <vmlintu> highvoltage: it's quite hard to explain - myself I'm getting lost somewhere in between - ubuntu-server is talking about uec and edubuntu is talking about easy single classroom installs. This leaves all the stuff that I'm working on somewhere in the middle..
[20:49] <highvoltage> vmlintu: ah, I have similar problems :)
[20:49] <RicardoPerez> i'll take a look next week to see if there's any news in that PPA :)
[20:50] <stgraber> RicardoPerez: https://edge.launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa/+build/1970975
[20:50] <highvoltage> vmlintu: sometimes it works better for me to see those kind of problems as different problems that need to be solved on their own, but with the idea of solving things commonly where they can be done
[20:50] <RicardoPerez> stgraber: wow, great :)
[20:51] <RicardoPerez> stgraber: many thanks :)
[20:51] <stgraber> I don't guarantee it's going to build though ;)
[20:51] <stgraber> it's quite likely to fail the first time
[20:51] <RicardoPerez> stgraber: aside from that, thanks for your efforts :)
[20:51] <stgraber> np
[20:55] <vmlintu> highvoltage: also launchpad is full of great blueprints, but I have absolutely no idea what they are there for if they never will be implemented
[20:56] <stgraber> quick reboot for kernel update, will be back in a few minutes (hopefully)
[20:59] <highvoltage> vmlintu: yep, some people create them with the idea that other people will implement them. I'm not a big fan of people randomly creating blueprints, it just creates confusion.
[21:00] <highvoltage> especially for blueprints that shouldn't even be blueprints in the first place.
[21:01] <vmlintu> I have actually implemented some abandoned blueprints in Puavo
[21:01] <vmlintu> ldap+kerberos related
[21:10] <highvoltage> vmlintu: that sounds great
[21:11] <vmlintu> highvoltage: the problem then is that I have no idea what I should do with the code now that it's in github if I wanted to get it included
[21:14] <highvoltage> vmlintu: what specifically did you implement? For Natty, we'd like to talk a metapackage that will be called something like edubuntu-server (or perhaps a bunch of packages) that would make a clasroom or school server(s) easy to implement on ubuntu server
[21:14] <highvoltage> vmlintu: the work that you did might be quite useful for that
[21:16] <vmlintu> There's a bunch - tools to setup ldap+kerberos with a single command, a web based user management tool specifically for schools, hardware inventory using ldap for servers, laptops and thin clients with puppet integration, a new openldap overlay to integrate openldap + mit kerberos, ssl ca module to hand out ssl certificates,...
[21:17] <vmlintu> Basically tools to manage multiple organisations that each have multiple schools using a single cluster
[21:18] <highvoltage> vmlintu: wow, that's a lot. is it documented anywhere? I'd love to take a look
[21:18] <vmlintu> So it's gosa + ltsp-cluster + ca-tools + others in a single package
[21:18] <vmlintu> No existing code has been used, though
[21:19] <vmlintu> http://github.com/opinsys
[21:19] <highvoltage> vmlintu: sorry if I asked you before about this, are you going to be at UDS next month?
[21:19] <vmlintu> oh, I just realised that the device management code is not public atm.. I'll get that done tomorrow
[21:19] <vmlintu> highvoltage: no
[21:20] <highvoltage> vmlintu: ok. I'm going to take some time to look at this before UDS.
[21:21] <highvoltage> vmlintu: if these do what I think it does then it could potentially fast-forward edubuntu at least a year into the future
[21:21] <vmlintu> it's still under development, but we'll start using it in production in a few weeks
[21:22] <vmlintu> It's all ldap based, so there's no sql anywhere
[21:23] <vmlintu> what we'll start working next is to integrate something like simpleSAMLphp to it to get web applications (moodle, elgg, wordpress, mahara, google apps..) to authenticate against it
[21:25] <vmlintu> Device management side of it is close to ltsp-cluster (this is now missing in github)
[21:26] <vmlintu> Using it with ubuntu provided openldap won't work though as it's too buggy..
[21:46] <highvoltage> vmlintu: ok, I guess ubuntu's openldap could be tamed :)
[21:47] <vmlintu> highvoltage: it's gnutls that is buggy


[21:38] <TheNH813> If you're not running one, using the linux-image-lowlatency package can help.
[21:38] <Komputerfreak> ah ok, i missed that
[21:38] <TheNH813> It's designed to give the hardware more priority to get lower latency, as the name implies.
[21:39] <TheNH813> So maybe give that a try, and then adjust the jack settings again to she what you can get.
[21:39] <Komputerfreak> ok i will try it
[21:39] <TheNH813> In extreme cases, a different DE then Unity could help if it uses less memory, etc, but that shouldn't be too much an issue for a quadcore.
[21:39] <TheNH813> enlightenmepls: What kind of errors/troubles?
[21:39] <enlightenmepls> Here's the situation: old computer was dualbooting ubuntu and windows (every time it would start up, I would see the GRUB menu asking me if I was going into ubuntu or windows). I recently got a new computer and brought my SSD over to the new computer (to my knowledge, ubuntu was on the SSD). When I loaded the new computer, the flashing underscore w
[21:39] <enlightenmepls> ould skip around the screen and go back into the BIOS. I checked the boot order of the BIOS on my old computer to find out that a hard drive has boot priority, so I brought the hard drive over to the new computer. On the new computer, I can now access my Windows boot.. but still no Ubuntu. It seems my bootloader has gotten fucked? Or lost into the
[21:39] <enlightenmepls> void or something? Can someone help me out with this?
[21:40] <TheNH813> First of all, is it a UEFI or BIOS bootloader?
[21:40] <Komputerfreak> what does the image.lowlatency install? not a kernel?
[21:40] <TheNH813> linux-image-lowlatency installs a lowlatency optimized kernel.
[21:40] <Viking667> Komputerfreak: yes, I believe that's a kernel
[21:40] <enlightenmepls> TheNH813 , what's the easiest way to tell?
[21:41] <Komputerfreak> ah, neat! so no need to compile! thanks very much.
[21:41] <TheNH813> enlightenmepls: Go into your motherboard configuration, and check under boot options.
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Kinda stumped here as X says " 128.911] (II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "1920x1080" (hsync out of range) " . Also not sure why the system wants to load FGLRX - as it is no longer supported . Still reading.
[21:41] <enlightenmepls> I'm pretty sure it's BIOS, because I remember at the partition stage it was asking me to make another partition for EFI, and so I just had toggled the non UEFI usb and installed it that way.
[21:41] <TheNH813> IF there's a setting that says UEFI/Legacy/UEFI+Legacy, make sure it's set to UEFI and Legacy
[21:42] <Viking667> I removed FGLRX back when the system was upgraded to 16.04
[21:42] <TheNH813> enlightenmepls: Or just legacy.
[21:42] <TheNH813> If that dosen't work, you might just need to reinstall the bootloader.
[21:43] <enlightenmepls> How would I reinstall the bootloader?
[21:43] <enlightenmepls> And to what? The SSD? Or the hard drive?
[21:44] <TheNH813> You'd boot up a live USB, install the boot-repair package, and run the utility.
[21:44] <yayster> Hello, everyone.
[21:44] <TheNH813> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:44] <TheNH813> @yayster: Hello there.
[21:46] <yayster> I've been having a really difficult time getting my .Xresources to load upon boot up.  I ended up creating a ~/.config/upstart/my-upstart-script.conf to get it loaded, but I am thinking that there is a better what to do it.
[21:47] <yayster> this is what I created:
[21:47] <yayster> start on desktop-start
[21:47] <yayster> stop on desktop-end
[21:47] <yayster> script
[21:47] <yayster>   xrdb -load ~/.Xresources
[21:47] <yayster> end script
[21:50] <yayster> I got muted by the Drone.  * sigh *
[21:50] <Viking667> Bashing-om: Hm. I added a modeline for 1920x1080 manually (xrandr --newmode .....) and that worked fine.
[21:51] <yayster> I can manually load the .Xresources and the next xterm I open up is fine.  It is the first one opening up I want to work correctly.
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Great . current kernel is " 4.4.0-77-generic " ya should update/upgrade .
[21:59] <Viking667> Bashing-om: I haven't upgraded to 17.04 yet, I only just upgraded to 16.10 about a month or two ago
[22:02] <Bashing-om> Viking667: "BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic" . For some reason you are booting a xenial (16.04) kernel .
[22:02] <Viking667> *blink*
[22:03] <Viking667> 4.8.0-49-generic is what I'm running (uname -r)
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Well, not according to the x log . Hummm .
[22:04] <Viking667> Hm, I smell a rat.
[22:05] <Viking667> Oh. That would explain it. The Xorg.0.log dates from bleeping January!!!
[22:05] <Viking667> *headdesk*
[22:06] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Ho kay ! also "UUID=a73c3161-ce5e-4c0d-9488-cbbbf58f2d93" raises a eye brow . as to the why ?
[22:07] <Viking667> the boot UUID
[22:07] <Viking667> Now I'm trying to figure out where on earth all my Xorg logging's gone. It doesn't even seem to be here.
[22:08] <Pathur> Im hoping to get some fresh eyes on this problem - How might i navigate this GRUB obstacle? https://i.imgur.com/MPJMys5.jpg  it was with an older Ubuntu installation, 14 I think, had some big problem and file system went into read only mode too, can still view partitions from a live cd/usb , some directories have switched to being plain text files now, some have configuration data in them.. all strange, some boot repair info here
[22:08] <Pathur> https://pastebin.com/tnMz86QN  sda1 is the problem
[22:08] <Viking667> does stuff still get pushed into /var/log?
[22:10] <Bashing-om> Viking667: K .. just checking that the UUID is valid for the current boot partition . Mine: "[     7.907] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-77-generic root=UUID=d9c2a8e6-d014-42a6-846f-7e7892f4aef5 ro " .
[22:11] <Viking667> lol. /boot isn't on /
[22:12] <Viking667> the interesting thing I've found out is that no logging has been happening for Xorg since January! Yeesh.
[22:12] <Viking667> Is there an Xorg equivalent of dmesg?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Viking667: If it helps " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23308 May  7 12:03 /var/log/Xorg.0.log ". You should have today's boot .
[22:13] <Viking667> Bashing-om: It's most certainly not today's boot. the date is 10 January
[22:14] <Viking667> I might have to reboot, though I'm pretty sure the CMOS clock is also correct.
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Just palying the devil's advocate . Number of things on that system not as expected .
[22:15] <Viking667> yah. It's been running since about 2009 on various versions of Ubuntu
[22:16] <Viking667> I don't have to reboot, hwclock tells me CMOS clock's within 0.3 seconds of system
[22:18] <Viking667> I mean, I can put resolutions into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-custom-video-mode.conf manually but I suspect that's not the right way around this problem.
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Viking667: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ configs here are perfectly legit as far as I know . That is the next "path" X looks at .
[22:21] <Viking667> AH well. I could always upgrade to 17.04 and see how badly my system gets messed up by THAT upgrade.
[22:22] <Viking667> Bashing-om: yes, but why should I add resolutions when Xorg's clearly supposed to pick them up for itself?
[22:23] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Well, upgrading will not 'fix' a problem generally . And 17.04 is only supported for 9 months . Then ya got to do the 17.10 thing and finally 18.04 to get back on LTS .
[22:24] <Viking667> mmm hmm. But I wasn't aiming for LTS anyhow.
[22:25] <Viking667> I've had times when I've installed LTS because it's been the next one in the sequence, but then it doesn't prompt me to upgrade six months later (though I know how to fix that, at least)
[22:25] <Bashing-om> Viking667: :) . Well with good backups . all things are possible .
[22:25] <Viking667> lol. Backups.
[22:27] <Viking667> So. How do I get Xorg to log?
[22:29] <minimec> Viking667: It does it automatically. You will find the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:31] <Viking667> minimec: you weren't following my conversation... my latest Xorg.0.log shows up with a date of 10 January 2017
[22:31] <Viking667> And that's from today's bootup.
[22:31] <Viking667> well, not today.
[22:31] <Bashing-om> Viking667: anacron installed ' dpkg -l anacron ' Is my 1st guess .
[22:31] <Viking667> hm? how would anacron be relevant?
[22:32] <Viking667> (and yes, it is installed)
[22:32] <Volog> t"est
[22:32] <Volog> test
[22:32] <Viking667> fail
[22:33] <minimec> Viking667: indeed I did not follow the conversation. Yet I am surprised that it doesn't. Did you delete or renamed the file once, just for a try?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Not relevant to the situation as 'anacron' is installed byt to answer the question read " cat /etc/crontab " .
[22:34] <Viking667> minimec: haven't tried that (removing Xorg.0.log) but I would have assumed that logs should be being rotated.
[22:35] <Viking667> Ah well, I'll stash all the Xorg logs into a tarball, then reboot xorg, and see what that does.
[22:35] <Viking667> Back soon, folks.
[22:35] <minimec> Viking667: I agree, but sometimes...
[22:48] <guest123> I am wondering what the kernel version of execv()  function are i.e the loader program process /pid  that linux uses with its process scheduler
[22:49] <guest123> when creating the task_struct and loading /running the new program/process
[22:51] <guest123> The scheduler from my understanding uses the timer interrupts to switch to different task_struct and resume execution of the process but for new process i would imagine there has to be a loader program that initially loads the program into memory ,and creates the task_struct for the scheduler to switch to
[22:52] <guest123> ...But maybe its all part of the scheduler code i.e the loader not sure... i do know the user land loader can be execv(..) , fork , ...etc calls
[22:52] <guest123> But kind of want to know each step at the kernel level
[22:54] <guest123> once you have it as a task_struct then you easilly can switch to the task by loading the registers values  and doing a jump to the last place of execution held by eip address in task_struct
[22:54] <cyrano> I installed docky on Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2, I tried out the gmail docklet and now it crashes whenever I try to open docky. Is there any way I can fix this?
[22:56] <minimec> cyrano: I guess you wil have a folder 'docky' in '/home/<youruser>/.local/share/'. rename or delete that folder.
[22:57] <minimec> cyrano: next time you start docky, it will start with its default settings again.
[22:57] <Viking667> Well, I finally found where my Xorg logs are now (~/.local/share/xorg/). Paste.ubuntu.com/24533471/
[22:59] <minimec> Viking667: Wow... why would these logs be in .local/share ???
[23:00] <Viking667> It seems that if XDG_DATA_HOME isn't defined, it defaults to ${HOME} (or at least the current directory it's being run from)
[23:00] <Viking667> Hey, at least I HAVE logs!
[23:01] <minimec> Viking667: ;)
[23:03] <Viking667> Bashing-om: so, there's a far more recent Xorg for ya to digest (not all that different from the January one, to be frank)
[23:05] <korrigan_du> Hello there, anyone ?
[23:05] <tgm4883> !ask | korrigan_du
[23:07] <x_> ay whats good boiz
[23:07] <x_> yo whats up
[23:07] <bazhang> !ubuntu | x_
[23:07] <Viking667> *blink*
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Looks much more sane . I see no issue . All now look good to you ?
[23:08] <Viking667> That's two disconnects in three minutes...
[23:09] <Viking667> Bashing-om: it's still not doing the 1920x1080, heck, I don't even have 1680x1050 for resolution...
[23:10] <Viking667> The largest resolution I have listed is 1440x900
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Humm .. log file says it is available "  291.490] (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0  148.50  1920 2008 2052 2200  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz eP) " .
[23:11] <Viking667> yep. That's my point.
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> Viking667, ...have you tried to change resolution with "xrandr" ?
[23:12] <Viking667> Additionally, my mousebutton setting program doesn't "stick" yet a manually run xmodmap runs fine.
[23:12] <Viking667> YankDownUnder: When I manually add resolutions I can switch to them fine.
[23:13] <Viking667> If the mode's not listed, it won't change to it, end of.
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> Viking667, Manually adding the resolutions will end up being a bit monotonous...
[23:13] <Viking667> I agree. However, one way around that is to add them to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-custom-video.conf
[23:14] <Viking667> I did that to wedge in a 1360x768 resolution
[23:16] <tgm4883> Viking667: seems like the easiest solution would be to add your desired resolutions manually no?
[23:16] <sidetracking> how do i fix ubuntu?
[23:17] <Viking667> However, I get the impression that Xorg's supposed to be adding those resolutions, not simply omitting them even when they're obviously detected.
[23:17] <tgm4883> sidetracking: how is ubuntu broken?
[23:17] <Viking667> sidetracking: that's a remarkably undefined question.
[23:17] <sidetracking> my bad
[23:18] <sidetracking> where is the ubuntu support channel
[23:18] <tgm4883> sidetracking: you're in it...
[23:18] <sidetracking> ok
[23:18] <sidetracking> how do i fix ubuntu
[23:18] <Viking667> So. (1) what's wrong, (2) what're you expecting instead?
[23:18] <tgm4883> !details | sidetracking
[23:18] <ikonia> sidetracking: ask a real question
[23:21] <sidetracking> sorry
[23:21] <sidetracking> my son installed ubuntu for me
[23:21] <Viking667> Okay. What's not working?
[23:22] <PipeItToDevNull> Please know this is not facebook messenger, enter is not punctuation and we like everything in one message
[23:22] <Viking667> or more to the point, what're you expecting, and what is it doing instead? You can type up to 510 characters on a line here.
[23:23] <Sparrow__> !logs
[23:28] <Viking667> sidetracking: are you there, sir/madam?
[23:30] <Sparrow__> Tell him to put his kid on and we will walk him through any fixes :)
[23:31] <Viking667> he/she can probably read fine.
[23:36] <mchamplain> I have an old motherboard/cpu/etc. but don’t have a hard drive. I have a live usb Ubuntu 16.04 flash drive that I can boot (with persistent storage), but I would like to have the “try ubuntu” option load automatically without having to hit enter.  is that possible?
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> mchamplain, Have you considered looking at editing grub2 so that it automagically defaults to that option...?
[23:40] <minimec> mchamplain: If you have a 2nd USB drive you could even install a 'real' ubuntu installation on that 2nd drive and use it as harddrive. Only thing I would do then is to mount the /tmp directory in RAM and maybe avoid a swap partition.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Viking667: There is the boot parameter " edid=off " defeating the scan ? , what results when the boot parameter is removed ?
[23:50] <testerbeta> hi
[23:50] <testerbeta> what software should i use
[23:50] <testerbeta> for export to   idml    or other "indesign" formats
[23:50] <testerbeta> at  ubuntu=
[23:51] <ikonia> testerbeta: in reference to what ?
[23:52] <testerbeta> what software could i use for export to this format? ikonia
[23:52] <testerbeta> such as inkscape for read eps
[23:52] <ikonia> export from what though ?
[23:52] <ikonia> you have to have something to export from
[23:53] <testerbeta> from a sla source (scribus)
[23:53] <ikonia> oh, no idea, I'd look at what formats inkscape supports first
[23:53] <ikonia> then try to find one of those formats that is open, thats your best bet
[23:53] <YankDownUnder> "Scribus" should be more than able to export to .eps or even .pdf => or .svg ...
[23:55] <testerbeta> yankdownunder  and with this scheme (sla > eps,   what should i do
[23:55] <testerbeta> for get the idml (i need make a small indexfile
[23:55] <testerbeta> at idml
[23:57] <YankDownUnder> testerbeta, I'm not quite sure what you're asking - but Scribus is able to export to .EPS, .SVG, other image formats...
[23:59] <testerbeta> yankdownunder    i need make an indexfile (import some ai files,  that i can read at inkscape )
[23:59] <testerbeta> make an index (page 1 its the index), with local links (to pages of the file)
[23:59] <testerbeta> and after  export it to   idml
[23:59] <YankDownUnder> testerbeta, This question  might be more apt for #scribus => ask the experts :)


 Windows 10 Bleeds Users While Ubuntu Linux Enjoys An Astonishing Increase
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/05/06/windows-10-is-bleeding-users-while-ubuntu-linux-enjoys-an-astonishing-increase/
 Does anyone know who made that picture? Because it's awesome!!
 Jason probs made it
 I like it too
[05:29] <guiverc> thanks for link @Zachariah..  (we may use it in next uwn)
 No problem! It's because of all the great work you guys have been doing to make Linux more usable by the general public!
[16:04] <Karp39> Afternoon QA
 Afternoon
 anyone up on snaps, as i'm running xubuntu and every time i run software updater, its trying to reinstall the snap store after i removed it
 oops @philipz ... I did ping in ubuntu flavors irc about this when I found the same thing in ubuntu budgie.  Since you have gnome-software as a recommendation in your seeds, update manager will "upgrade" it to a snap
 your seed needs to be adjusted to make gnome-software a dependency
 @fossfreedom not sure i follow how to do this
 this is how it appears in update manager https://imgur.com/yJxyjZD.png
 suggest tag your fellow xubuntu devs - its a feature - perhaps undesirable in 20.04 xubuntu
 unfortunately for xubuntu upgraders or 20.04 installations they will have been "upgraded" to the snap by now when they run update-manager.
 The way to resolve for now is to sudo apt install gnome-software
 then update manager will not try to upgrade it to a snap
 yep the snap store started bugging me when i installed the 20.04 daily build a week before its release
 yep that seems to have stopped it (re @fossfreedom: The way to resolve for now is to sudo apt install gnome-software)


[08:43] <freddie_> hiya - recently returned to Ubuntu after some years with Windows. Software Center on the Indri beta is refusing to install anything as it has "no internet connection", but internet and apt are working fine. Can't see anything online, any ideas?
[08:45] <PaulW2U> freddie_: that's bug 1936893
[08:46] <freddie_> So it is, my apologies! I promise I googled first!
[16:23] <oerheks> sudo systemctl restart packagekit


[01:00] <arrrghhh> hey all.  so I've got a new disk and I am trying to migrate everything to a new install... I'm not sure I'll be able to do any sort of 'export' on LVM, is there some way I can import these to the new install?
[01:12] <blueking> I am on ubuntu 14.04 LTS server version   I have noticed that /boot has been constant for 2-3 months    this means there are no updates of kernel for a long time ?
[01:12] <arrrghhh> blueking: you should probably update to 16.04 now that .1 is out
[01:13] <blueking> hmm need to make new install or are it safe to do update with none corruption of setup ?
[01:14] <arrrghhh> well nothing is guaranteed
[01:14] <blueking> experienced issues with nic names changing  after some upgrades :/
[01:15] <blueking> eth0/1  -> em1/2  and so on
[01:15] <arrrghhh> I don't know why that would cause issues but ok
[01:16] <sarnold> blueking: infact a kernel was released very recently https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[01:16] <blueking> ok
[01:17] <blueking> does there exist tool that makes backup of ALL system drive included partitions ?
[01:18] <tarpman> dd(1) ?
[01:18] <sarnold> dd can do that
[01:18] <blueking> dd ?
[01:22] <sarnold> yeah; if you've got a fully-installed hard drive in /dev/sda and you want to clone it to a drive in /dev/sdb you could use dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=128K   -- I added the bs 'block size' argument to try to get it to use an IO request size that most drives would be better at
[01:24] <blueking> if make image copy to another drive ?
[01:25] <blueking> if put ssd on windows computer and make image copy of all disc ?
[01:25] <sarnold> dd is wonderful, it can do a lot more than just cloning hard drives :)
[01:27] <blueking> well  problem are that I have only one ubuntu/linux computer :P
[01:28] <blueking> if system gets fucked up in an upgrade.. it's not easy to revert changes ?
[01:28] <sarnold> correct, there's currently no good way to revert broken upgrades. Hopefully we'll get that some day.
[01:28] <blueking> my GF would be mad at me if I would need to spend lot time to bring router(pc) back online...
[01:29] <blueking> need to make backup of all ssd drive on windows
[07:17] <aybuke> Hi everyone :) I have one question. I have one HP sl250s Gen 8 server. (on 8 disk and hardware RAID(1+0)). I'm tring install Ubuntu 16.04 on this server. But disk detect part pass directly. I guess Ubuntu cant see 2 logical volume. (Raid card b320i) I tried this solution (http://h20564.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04439186) bu
[07:17] <aybuke> t nothing change. This installation is possible? If it is, do you have any suggestions?
[07:19] <Smurphy> You install on a specific set of disks? What I did on my Microserver gen8 was to add a SSD disk for the OS, so the Storage disks are used solely for storage.
[07:19] <Smurphy> Then I installed, and could fiddle around with the drivers.
[07:19] <Smurphy> I don't like the hardware raid. If something breaks and you don't find a spare controller, your data is gone too ... (Happened to me back in time).
[07:28] <aybuke> Smurphy: I understand and thank you :) I use SaS disk and I enabled lisance for Raid.
[07:29] <aybuke> Besides, I dont like hw raid but they want this :/.
[07:34] <Smurphy> well. Then you will need to get the drivers in first somehow.
[07:35] <aybuke> I guess, I found them there link: https://launchpad.net/~hp-iss-team/+archive/ubuntu/hp-storage
[07:36] <Lt_Lemming> Hi all, trying to use ubuntu server to setup a kiosk machine booting into Chrome
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> running dpk-reconfigure x11-common is spitting out an error about "start and stop actions are no longer supporter"
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> supported*
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> sooo... how do I reconfigure x11 now?
[07:37] <Lt_Lemming> server 16.10 btw
[09:00] <C4L> Hello, I just wanted to ask one thing.. I had a server on which I had installed Ubuntu 14.04 and then used IPMI to setup Windows Server 2012. I want to reinstall everything, so I took the server into rescue mode. Right now I'm connected to the server via FTP using the rescue mode credentials, but I'm unsure where the location to both C:\ and D:\ are via FTP. Can anybody please help?
[09:26] <ikonia> C4L: that will depend on your ftp server and your file system layout
[09:29] <C4L> Hey ikonia
[09:29] <C4L> I did manage to find that C:\ was infact /dev/sda1
[09:29] <C4L> and D:\ was /dev/sda2
[09:29] <ikonia> no, thats a device file
[09:29] <ikonia> not a mount point
[09:29] <C4L> Oh
[09:29] <ikonia> ftp will not be able to use /dev
[09:29] <C4L> Yeah because I tried mounting it, I wasn't able to do so
[11:29] <Andrew__> I've just run a conjure-up for openstack all services succeeded except cinder as I had a typo in the cidr notation - is there a way to fix this and redeploy?
[15:39] <GrandPa-G> I want a service to restart another service whenever it is restarted. How?
[17:28] <peer-hh> 	I'm getting "No space left on device" errors while trying to upgrade a remote server. The unsuccessful commend tries to use /tmp for which df -hT shows "overflow       tmpfs     1.0M  1.0M     0 100% /tmp" How can I make this partition bigger or otherwise solve this problem?
[17:45] <peer-hh> So I can't upgrade any more and the situation is stuck.
[17:46] <nacc> peer-hh: did you possibly run out of disk at some point?
[17:46] <nacc> peer-hh: actual disk, i mean
[17:47] <nacc> peer-hh: iirc, the overflow tmpfs is a safety check for when / is full and you can't run anything to solve it
[17:47] <peer-hh> it's only the /tmp thing which is at 0.
[17:47] <nacc> peer-hh: not right now, but at anytime recently
[17:47] <peer-hh> it happens while making an initramfs
[17:47] <nacc> peer-hh: what happens?
[17:48] <peer-hh> the errors
[17:48] <nacc> peer-hh: you're not answering my question
[17:48] <peer-hh> many lines like "cp: failed to extend '/tmp/mkinitramfs_QciUOf//sbin/blkid': No space left on device" and the "apt-get upgrade" thus fails.
[17:48] <nacc> peer-hh: has, at anytime recently, your system run out of actual disk space, in particular for /
[17:48] <peer-hh> no, as far as I can tell
[17:49] <nacc> peer-hh: if you are sure, you should be able to umount the overflow tmpfs on /tmp; or reboot and it should be fine
[17:49] <peer-hh> there are 12 G available on /
[17:49] <peer-hh> ok, I'll give it a try
[17:51] <peer-hh> ok, it looks fine now, after a reboot. upgrades as usual. seems solved. thank you!
[18:16] <Onepamopa> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request -- while getting yakkety sources via git
[18:16] <Onepamopa> can anyone tell me what's failing: http://pastebin.com/yJBu5qb8
[18:21] <sarnold> Onepamopa: yikes. please file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux'.
[18:22] <Onepamopa> I'll try with an older version of ubuntu first, need that PC working asap.. :)
[18:22] <yeats> Onepamopa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/408341/bug-unable-to-handle-kernel-paging-request-at-while-installing-ubuntu (points to setting nomodeset as the solution)
[18:24] <Onepamopa> yeats, thanks, will give it a show..
[18:24] <Onepamopa> shot*
[18:43] <Onepamopa> Resolving deltas: 100% (4233802/4233802), done.
[18:43] <Onepamopa> error: index-pack died of signal 9
[18:43] <Onepamopa> fatal: index-pack failed
[18:44] <Onepamopa> aaand it died again
[18:44] <sarnold> Onepamopa: is that with nomodeset or an older kernel?
[18:45] <Onepamopa> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\""
[18:45] <Onepamopa> let me check what's @ syslog ...
[18:46] <Onepamopa> this time there were more stack traces and bug messages
[18:48] <DexterF> greetings. installed 16.04, rebooted, cannot login. thought I might have doen it and mistyped the passwd twice, put the disk on this machine here and to my surprise cannot find the user I created in passwd/shadow
[18:49] <DexterF> am confused. what happened here?
[18:49] <nacc> DexterF: netsplit i'm guessing
[18:50] <Onepamopa> DexterF, why not try to install it again
[18:50] <Onepamopa> doesn't take that long
[18:50] <sarnold> DexterF: which 16.04 did you use? was it labeled something like "16.04 LTS" or more like "ubuntu core 16"?
[18:51] <DexterF> sarnold: the mini.iso from u/server dload page actually
[18:51] <DexterF> uggghhh
[18:52] <Onepamopa> o yeah, netsplit
[18:52] <Onepamopa> dont you just love when that happens
[18:52] <sarnold> DexterF: hmm. that's very confusing indeed.
[18:55] <DexterF> sarnold: so the login system did not change in a weird way, there really is something odd, yes?
[18:55] <sarnold> DexterF: yeah. the ubuntu core thing may wind up adding users to a /var/*mumblesomething*/extrausers database instead of the usual /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd database
[18:56] <sarnold> DexterF: and it could be that there's something busted on the mini.iso :/
[18:56] <sarnold> DexterF: if you've got the time to retry and investgate, that'd be nice :) but if you don't, maybe the 'usual' server iso would be more likely to succeed
[18:57] <DexterF> sarnold: aimed at an as-slim-as-possible install, thus was recommended here to try mini.iso.
[18:57] <DexterF> sarnold: no such dir in /var
[18:57] <sarnold> DexterF: *nod* I've used it in the past myself for the same reasons :)
[18:58] <sarnold> DexterF: how about 'find /mnt/var/ -name '*extra*' ? I can't recall the exact name..
[18:59] <rharper>  /var/lib/extrausers/  according to man 8 pam_extrausers
[19:12] <DexterF> rharper: mmmnope, no such dir here
[19:12] <DexterF> sarnold: that's what I did, isn't there
[19:12] <rharper> DexterF: yeah, it's not created by default; if you want to use extrausers, something has to create it
[19:12] <DexterF> ok, then it should be "classic"
[19:13] <DexterF> does the server flavor have a root account?
[19:13] <sarnold> no
[19:14] <sarnold> you can create one of course but it's not available by default
[19:14] <rharper> typically you create a user during install which gets sudo privs for access to root
[19:14] <sarnold> rharper: aye, he says that's the bit that's broken
[19:14] <rharper> on which iso ?
[19:15] <sarnold> mini.iso
[19:15] <rharper> that sounds a but fundamental, iso tests for yakkety are passing as are xenial;  powersj around ?
[19:15] <rharper> sarnold: yakkety? or xenial ?
[19:15] <sarnold> rharper: yakkety
[19:16] <rharper> k
[19:16]  * powersj boots his vm he used with the yakkety mini.iso
[19:17] <DexterF> when you need to debug a machine and you have only acer monitors. (good panels, but take ages to detect modes. no POST messages for you.)
[19:17] <powersj> sarnold: I do recall creating a user and sure enough have my local powersj user
[19:17] <rharper> sarnold: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ?
[19:17] <sarnold> DexterF: ^^ is that the mini.iso you used?
[19:17] <sarnold> powersj: woot.
[19:17] <DexterF> no, xenial
[19:18] <rharper> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[19:18] <sarnold> argh! sorry powersj, rharper :(
[19:18] <powersj> no worries, let me give it a try
[19:18] <rharper> I wish that link had the SHA sums there ...
[19:18] <sarnold> that'd be really surprising, xenial's been out for a while
[19:19] <sarnold> rharper: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/SHA256SUMS and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[19:19] <rharper> sarnold: heh, but not in the same path =)
[19:20] <sarnold> yeah, but at least they're there :)
[19:20] <rharper> y
[19:20] <powersj> hmm this is looking odd. Did not ask me for user creds before installing base system
[19:20] <rharper> heh
[19:20] <rharper> sounds like the bug
[19:20] <powersj> oh there it goes, asked me after base system, then setup time
[19:21] <DexterF> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  <- first iso listed on that page
[19:21] <DexterF> is the one I used
[19:21] <powersj> guess that was loading things, not doing base system
[19:22] <powersj> md5 of the one I tried matches that - can confirm created a user
[19:22] <DexterF> powersj: well. any way to recover?
[19:23] <powersj> That part is the standard 4 screens worth to: full name, user name, password x2
[19:24] <powersj> You could boot a livecd or into recovery mode, mount the disk, and see what is in /home for the username and change the password that way
[19:24] <powersj> if there isn't anything critical on the system, I would just reinstall at that point
[19:27] <rharper> powersj: where is the iso test report page for the mini.iso ?  I didn't see it on the jenkins.ubuntu.com/server
[19:27] <DexterF> powersj: the funky thing is there is no line for that use in passwd. I know the name, it's not in passwd/shadow, that's what irritates me most to begin with
[19:28] <sarnold> DexterF: did anything get logged?
[19:28] <rharper> DexterF: so you have a homedir but nothing in passwd/shadow ?
[19:29] <DexterF> rharper: hard to tell about home since I cannot log in, it sits on an md raid.
[19:29] <DexterF> sarnold: let me check
[19:29] <rharper> then how do you know there's no line in passwd/shadow ?
[19:29] <powersj> rharper: mini.iso would fall under the netboot ISO I believe on the ISO tracker here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
[19:29] <rharper> other than you can't login?
[19:30] <rharper> powersj: ah, ok
[19:30] <DexterF> rharper: plucked the disk and hooked it to this computer for examination
[19:30] <rharper> it's likely that the useradd failed ; seems unlikely to have created home and populated it while failing to update passwd/shadow
[19:34] <DexterF> I have a theory what happened
[19:35] <DexterF> said /home md is a raid5, and I had a flaky sata cable on one drive. wait. bad theory. I was up to: during setup one disk fails, /home becomes inaccessible, user creation fails silently.
[19:36] <DexterF> but then again one failed disk on raid5 is exactly what md should cover
[19:36] <DexterF> unless /home became unresponsive due to disk sync errors
[19:36] <Onepamopa> What are the chances 2 " BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request" messages to appear on the monitor but not @ syslog (after reboot)?
[19:37] <Onepamopa> I scrolled them up, made a photo then rebooted
[19:38] <sarnold> Onepamopa: when things go wrong in the kernel it's quite possible that too much is broken to actually write logs to disk; I'd hope BUGs would still get written, but when paging requests can't be handled, there's something very wrong.
[19:38] <Onepamopa> sarnold, this happened on both 16.10 and 16.04.1
[19:38] <Onepamopa> Im surface-checking the disk for errors now...
[19:39] <Onepamopa> after that it's time to check the memory too ....
[19:42] <Onepamopa> tho, the pc was running freebsd 10 without problems
[19:42] <Onepamopa> weird..
[20:57] <DexterF> ok, superweird. am in rescue mode, cannot see the raid5 with /home at all
[20:58] <DexterF>  /proc/partitions does not show them at all
[20:58] <DexterF> simple sata disks on a simple intel chipset
[21:01] <DexterF> nvm, show after hw rescan
[21:15] <DexterF> managed to enter rescue mode. there was no user created in the dirst place. i added one with adduser now, but I doubt it will have the sudo-ubuntu privileges. how do I add that?
[21:20] <DexterF> I now added that user to the sudo group. web manuals suggest adding to "admin", too, but there is no such group
[21:23] <DexterF> boots, logs in as user, can sudo. yay.
[21:54] <DexterF> installed lxqt metapackage. no there is ofonod. on a server. wth?
[21:55] <tsimonq2> DexterF: what metapackage?
[21:55] <DexterF> tsimonq2: "lxqt"
[21:55] <tsimonq2> if it's from the Lubuntu Development PPA, don't expect it to be stable
[21:55] <tsimonq2> ok good
[21:55] <nacc> DexterF: what is 'ofonod'?
[21:56] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:56] <DexterF> telephony daemon
[21:56] <nacc> descender: presumably it's some base part of the LXQt desktop environment?
[21:56] <DexterF> ofonod is a daemon which provides an oFono stack for interfacing mobile
[21:56] <DexterF>        telephony devices.
[21:57] <DexterF> ok, so more like bt2droid storage access or sumsuch. that makes sense then.
[22:12] <tsimonq2> nacc: not that I know of
[22:19] <nacc> tsimonq2: ok, wasn't sure why else it would get pulled in via deps
[22:20] <tsimonq2> !info ofonod
[22:20] <tsimonq2> :/
[22:20] <nacc> tsimonq2: it's ofono
[22:20] <nacc> afaict
[22:20] <tsimonq2> !info ofono
[22:20] <tsimonq2> oh
[22:21] <tsimonq2> ah yes
[22:21] <tsimonq2>   Recommends: connman
[22:21] <tsimonq2> that's pulled in by lxqt I think