[12:04] <andy> does anybody know how to not make the clock show military time?
[12:04] <K|NgGh0sT> double click on it
[12:04] <linuxmonkey> ok it worked K|NgGh0sT
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> er right click
[12:05] <james_xxx> or right click
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: cause I pwn
[12:05] <CaBlGuY> ok what gives with no beep media player in the software install thingy????
[12:05] <linuxmonkey> now should I just format and install by txt mode cause i got that cd too
[12:05] <dontm> what is the difference between the cd and the dvd install?
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> meh, it probally works
[12:05] <dontm> just more bundled pkgs on the dvd?
[12:07] <bastian> there must be someone with similar networking problems, it happened to me on several pcs :/
[12:07] <linuxmonkey> K|NgGh0sT: whats your take on this, I installed with the live cd unfortunately too try it out, should I just reformat and install old school text mode :)
[12:07] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: you're fine
[12:07] <linuxmonkey> lol
[12:08] <K|NgGh0sT> I really gotta figure out how to get rid of this blueline when watching movies
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> it just seams that the live cd is causing some issues with some config files
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> lmao
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> !mp3
[12:08] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <ctothej> There is no way to write to ntfs drives right?
[12:10] <HymnToLife> absolutely right
[12:10] <linuxmonkey> ctothej: no safe way to
[12:10] <HymnToLife> no way to do it safely, at least
[12:10] <icheyne> I used to do it with no probs
[12:10] <linuxmonkey> lol you can but morethan likely ud crash the drive
[12:10] <icheyne> never happened in a year
[12:10] <fd0man> Does anybody know offhand if there are any metapackages that are designed to pull in all of the available dev libraries and headers on the Kubuntu system?
[12:11] <ctothej> Well here is the situation: external drive, with some files > 4 GB. I want to keep media on it so that both Windows and Linux can read/write to it.
[12:11] <CaBlGuY> !beep
[12:11] <robotgeek> ctothej: use ext3 and install fsdriver.org on windows
[12:11] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:11] <CaBlGuY> !beep media player
[12:12] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:12] <CaBlGuY> grrrr
[12:12] <ctothej> robotgeek: ahh cool. does it integrate easily into explorer shell?
[12:13] <robotgeek> ctothej: yeah, mounts it as a drive
[12:13] <crazy_penguin> good night to all! pleasent dreams!
[12:13] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I get beep media player installed....   I can't find it..
[12:13] <CaBlGuY> :/
[12:13] <linuxmonkey> robotgeek: did u check that website is a advertisement portal
[12:13] <K|NgGh0sT> apt-get install mplayer
[12:13] <K|NgGh0sT> zomg done
[12:13] <ctothej> robotgeek: whats the website?
[12:14] <sibblegp> hey guys!  my display panel in system settings crashes X when I click on it....any ideas?
[12:14] <ctothej> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[12:14] <sibblegp> this only started after I changed some settings in there
[12:14] <ctothej> linuxmonkey: check that site
[12:14] <linuxmonkey> yeah i am
[12:15] <linuxmonkey> thats preaty cool
[12:15] <ctothej> shit... x86 processors only? does that mean x86 operating system or processor?
[12:15] <linuxmonkey> processor
[12:16] <linuxmonkey> no 64 bit :(
[12:16] <ctothej> so Win XP 32bit edition running on an amd64 wont work?
[12:16] <Cainsie> nope
[12:16] <K|NgGh0sT> yes it will
[12:16] <CaBlGuY> anyone???   beep media player..
[12:17] <Cainsie> does it not just run the 64bit processor as a 32bit though?
[12:17] <ctothej> K|NgGh0sT: you use it?
[12:17] <K|NgGh0sT> Cainsie: of course
[12:18] <K|NgGh0sT> ctothej: ya, it just doesnt take advatage of the extra 32bit handling
[12:18] <mongey> Instlux allows you to install Linux by running an installer progam in Windows. It currently supports the Ubuntu and OpenSuSE distributions, and work is being done to support others.
[12:18] <mongey> will it work for kubuntu?
[12:18] <ctothej> K|NgGh0sT: thanks
[12:18] <Cainsie> is there not linux versions who will run 64bit processors as 64bit processors
[12:18] <HymnToLife> mongey> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing
[12:18] <HymnToLife> so yes, it will work
[12:18] <K|NgGh0sT> There has been 64bit linux for years
[12:18] <ctothej> Cainsie: if you use the 64 bit editions.. yes
[12:19] <mongey> nice
[12:20] <ctothej> it makes more sense that software relies on the operating system instead of the processor itself as the OS is the in-between.
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> K|NgGh0sT: actually, it's kinda like that already for dapper..
[12:20] <sibblegp> someone please.....any idea why the display panel in the systems settings crashes X when I try to access it?
[12:20] <mongey> kubuntu 64 dvd and the 32 cd
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> basically it loads all the way into the winX environment, and allows you to install it form there..
[12:20] <mongey> *64 cd
[12:21] <ctothej> sibblegp: what drivers / graphics card?
[12:21] <sibblegp> ctothej:  nvidia on an older nvidia card.....like I said, it was working fine for a while and then stopped after I changed some settings
[12:21] <ctothej> what did you change?
[12:21] <sibblegp> turned on monitor sleeping.......
[12:21] <sibblegp> that's it
[12:22] <mongey> woops
[12:22] <ctothej> did you turn it off, restart, and try again?
[12:22] <sibblegp> er, also changed the model of my monitor
[12:22] <sibblegp> yup
[12:22] <ctothej> hmm
[12:22] <mongey> whats the difference between the 64 dvd and 64 cd ?
[12:23] <ctothej> sibblegp: not really sure what to do here. what is the procedure for turning on monitor sleeping? and how did you change your monitor model?
[12:24] <sibblegp> ctothej:  just went to the rightmost tab and clicked the button, and then in the "screens" section, I went into the settings for my primary screen and changed the model from Custom to Dell 1905FP.....everything works fine but the applet/panel or whatever crashes X!
[12:25] <ctothej> sibblegp: im stumped. check xorg.conf maybe to make sure the monitor settings are right. maybe it created a new monitor there..
[12:25] <borko> hello! Pls help me :/ i just install kubutu and i whave problems with ADEPT it wont stat, so i uninstalled it and now i dont know hoe to install it again
[12:26] <sibblegp> ctothej:  but what would cause it to crash just then?  it doesn't make sense if it works fine all the other times......can you pastebin a good xorg.conf so I can compare mine?
[12:26] <linuxmonkey> is there a easy way to enable transparent windows in kybuntu or does that require XGL
[12:26] <ctothej> sibblegp: pastebin yours too.
[12:27] <zblach> xine or mplayer?
[12:27] <zblach> or vlc?
[12:27] <sibblegp> ctothej:  http://pastebin.com/754461
[12:28] <borko> look i am nobie in linux, and i dont understand many things, i just want to tell me how to install adept again :/ Thank you
[12:28] <ctothej> sibblegp: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754462
[12:28] <mongey> whats the difference between the 64 dvd and 64 cd ?
[12:28] <mongey> anyone?
[12:28] <nnn0> borko, maybe: apt-get install adept
[12:28] <Seantater_> If I want to ssh to a computer -- using a key -- which computer needs which half of the key?
[12:28] <ctothej> sibblegp: i have dual head going, so thats why there are 2 sets of settings
[12:29] <linuxmonkey> adept should allready be installed....lol
[12:30] <pekay_> how can I stop the single click opens things in Konqueror? I liked the double click
[12:30] <sibblegp> ctothej:  the only big difference I see is all of the mode settings for my monitor.....
[12:31] <zblach> pekay_:  do this
[12:31] <zblach> go to System Settings
[12:31] <ctothej> sibblegp: yeah i was thinking about that.
[12:31] <zblach> go to Mouse
[12:31] <zblach> and under Icons, select 'Double-Click..."
[12:31] <ctothej> sibblegp: think the way it interprets the modes is off?
[12:31] <sibblegp> ctothej:  maybe delete them and see what happens?
[12:31] <ctothej> sibblegp: just comment them
[12:31] <sibblegp> ctothej:  k, back in a few
[12:32] <ctothej> ok. ill be here
[12:32] <sibblegp> ctothej:  by the way, do you know the name of superman's lair?
[12:32] <linuxmonkey> ok this is odd, I cant play MP3's from a burnt data CD but as soon as I copy them to the HDD they play fine
[12:32] <ctothej> Fortress of Solitude
[12:32] <V-Lan> hello everybody !
[12:32] <mongey> dammn
[12:33] <mongey> i need help
[12:33] <mongey> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> alllrighty..
[12:33] <mongey> i want a 64 bit install
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !codecs
[12:33] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:33] <mongey> !install
[12:33] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:33] <zblach> !easysource
[12:33] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !restricted
[12:33] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:34] <pekay_> zblach: thanks :]
[12:34] <V-Lan> i need help me too
[12:35] <linuxmonkey> V-Lan: whats yer issue?
[12:36] <V-Lan> I have laptop toshiba A100-LE4 CA and when kde started the computer shutdown after random time ... hibernate .. :S suddently
[12:37] <andy> in linux firefox, how do i get to the preferences?
[12:37] <andy> i can't seem to find the preferences..
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> ok, havin trouble with Amrok...  again...  need help installin some codecs I guess..
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> andy edit, prefs..
[12:37] <xijio> I tried to instal aiglx w/ kde and kubuntu now my windows don't have decorations
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> xijio: what "type" of decorations u lookin for??
[12:38] <xijio> CaBlGuY: uhm... title bars
[12:38] <sibblegp> ctothej:  didn't work
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> ahhh
[12:38] <sibblegp> ctothej:  can you give me your pastebin again?
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[12:39] <linuxmonkey> V-Lan: unfortunatly I dont have a laptop. the only thing I could think of is to check your laptop and power settings under  system settings
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> xijio: not totaly sure about that one...
[12:39] <ctothej> sibblegp: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754462
[12:39] <V-Lan> i see if I quit Klaptop and disabled it, the laptop work fine after ... but it's really strange ...
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> !titlebars
[12:39] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:39] <richi_> where is the kernel config file located?
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> !title bars
[12:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[12:39] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on.
[12:40] <V-Lan> linuxmonkey: i really have it in the system settings but ... nothing ... :S
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  have u tried changin the SS and see what happens?
[12:41] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: the SS?
[12:41] <james_xxx> ohhh
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  yea, the Screen Saver silly
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> :p
[12:41] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: yes, i cannot get any screen saver to work
[12:41] <james_xxx> lol
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[12:42] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: they were all working as recently as yesterday
[12:42] <linuxmonkey> that is odd V-Lan your the first I see have this problem and I myself no longer have a laptop to replicate this issue. keep asking someone should be able to help ya with it more than I would be able to
[12:42] <CaBlGuY> and you've got your video drivers all installed and everything correct??
[12:42] <james_xxx> i can't remember if the SS was working after i upgraded to 3.5.3 or not, but i think it has worked since then
[12:42] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: as far as i know
[12:42] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx: AHHHH  U did an upgrade not a fresh install..
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> yes?
[12:43] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: yes, i upgrade
[12:43] <ctothej> hey the Sources.list fiel for kubuntu and ubuntu is the same right?
[12:43] <james_xxx> upgraded*
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> there ya go..
[12:43] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: upgrading is bad, huh?
[12:43] <visik7> why when I install applications they some appear and some doesn't in the K menu ???????
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> It would probably be a better bet to do a fresh install..
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> as so much has changed since badger..
[12:43] <linuxmonkey> visik7: known issue
[12:43] <visik7> linuxmonkey: how to fix
[12:43] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: fresh install of KDE , or of kubuntu?
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  upgrdaing isn't bad but, dapper has a bunch of new stuff in it..
[12:44] <V-Lan> linuxmonkey: i will write on launchpad Bugs ?
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> Ubuntu..
[12:44] <linuxmonkey> Workaround: log out and log back in, open the menu editor and click the 'save' button, or install packages from command line - i.e. sudo apt-get install or sudo aptitude install
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> actaully, I just got done installing dapper a few minutes ago myself..
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> that's why Im lookin for help with my amrok n stuff.. :p
[12:45] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: man, i really don't wanna do that. will that leave my files in tact?
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  no..
[12:45] <linuxmonkey> visik7: did you get that?
[12:45] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: the whole idea of having to do a fresh install for an upgrade sucks bad
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> if you do a fresh install, it will format the HDD  and install a totally fresh os..
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[12:45] <visik7> linuxmonkey: I install from the console
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> yea, I hear ya..
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> IM sure theres someone else that would be able to help ya out with the SS problem..
[12:46] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: i am serious. if that is the case then i am tempted to scrap linux. it ain't worth the hassle
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> just keep checkin back..
[12:46] <linuxmonkey> visik7: did you log out and login since you installed?
[12:46] <visik7> no
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  just check back periodically and someone surely will be able to help ya..
[12:47] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: i'll ask my question a bit in a while, but thanks
[12:47] <linuxmonkey> that will fix it, theres some that dont show in Kmenu till you logout and login again
[12:47] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  nP man..   if I know any question form now on, I will answer it for ya.. :-p
[12:47] <james_xxx> lol
[12:48] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: besides the whole screen saver thing, my upgrades went smoothly
[12:48] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  cool..
[12:48] <macd> !konwnbugs
[12:48] <ubotu> macd: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:48] <james_xxx> on my kubuntu machine and xubuntu machine , as well
[12:48] <macd> !knownbugs
[12:48] <ubotu> macd: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:48] <macd> bahh
[12:48] <CaBlGuY> really, the only reason I had a fresh install was cause I have ASuse 10.1 installed..
[12:48] <james_xxx> ahhh
[12:49] <james_xxx> i am hoping for ebuntu to be developed as i am a big fan of enlightenment
[12:49] <CaBlGuY> u would'nt know anything abouot installin codecs for Amrok would ya??
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> amrok ewwww
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> lol
[12:50] <james_xxx> cabl, no... although amaroK is working well for me.... and that is accidental, i assure you lol
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> old school xmms :)
[12:50] <james_xxx> i like xmms too
[12:50] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey: yea I know but, I can't find beep anywhere...   *sighs*
[12:50] <james_xxx> i have always liked winamp
[12:51] <halcyonCorsair> hi, whats the developer channel?
[12:51] <CaBlGuY> I LOVE beep, but I dunno where the heck it went..  :p
[12:51] <linuxmonkey> ive liked winamp untill aol bought them
[12:51] <CaBlGuY> halcyonCorsair:  go into #ubuntu and ask there, they will know
[12:51] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: try xmms you'll love it, its simple and functional
[12:52] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on.
[12:52] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey: whats about codecs??
[12:52] <linuxmonkey> such as for what?
[12:52] <linux_galore> james_xxx: look in kcontrol
[12:52] <CaBlGuY> mp3's and radio streams..
[12:52] <linuxmonkey> oh thats easy
[12:53] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:53] <CaBlGuY> ahh  that's it??
[12:54] <linuxmonkey> yep and then install xmms
[12:54] <CaBlGuY> well heck, that is easy.. :p
[12:54] <mongey> whats instlux do ?
[12:54] <linuxmonkey> and play your mp3's and shoutcast streams
[12:54] <james_xxx> linux_galore: where do i find Kcontrol?
[12:54] <beuntje> Hi there, im just installed Dapper, but now my saa7134 tv card doesn't work... gives only snow. can some help me ???? plz
[12:55] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: for more info you can read https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <CaBlGuY> ok, I need to get on the ummmm  "restricyted" cevs.
[12:55] <CaBlGuY> whats the command for that?
[12:55] <linuxmonkey> you mean for the repositories?
[12:55] <james_xxx> ok i have kcontrol
[12:56] <CaBlGuY> yea, cause it's sayin the package aint avaiable..
[12:56] <Firetech> will there be a kopete 0.12.0 package for kubuntu dapper? there was a 0.12 beta 1 package for download on kopete's page...
[12:56] <mikedep333> hey guys, adept updater is asking me to upgrade app-install-data and gnome-app-install to 1.33 from 1.32. How do I know which repo component (universe, main, backports, etc) this is from?
[12:56] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto and scroll down to kubuntu section
[12:56] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[12:56] <halcyonCorsair> can anyone help me with building knetworkmanager?
[12:57] <linuxmonkey> mikedep333:  if its asking for an update its from the main
[12:57] <beuntje> does someone have some idea why my Saa7134 in breezy works and NOT in dapper???
[12:57] <mikedep333> linuxmonkey: ok, good, thanks
[12:57] <linuxmonkey> usually
[12:57] <mikedep333> well, let me just check synaptic to see if it is from main
[12:58] <mikedep333> halcyonCorsair: knetworkmanager is included in main, you do not need to build it from source
[12:59] <james_xxx> linux_galore: i have all of the settings in kcontrol already configured..... screen savers still do not work
[01:00] <mikedep333> looks like those 2 apps are in main, thanks
[01:00] <linuxmonkey> i really need to update the screenshots in the wiki for adding repositories :(
[01:00] <linuxmonkey> lol they still got brezzy screenies
[01:01] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: see the thing is, i'm not using kubuntu
[01:01] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: so i really do
[01:01] <mikedep333> halcyonCorsair: oh, waht are you using?
[01:02] <linuxmonkey> if your not using kubuntu ur in the wrong channel...lol
[01:02] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: gentoo
[01:03] <mikedep333> well halcy, I'd say that knetworkmanager has a half decent chance of compiling from source
[01:03] <mikedep333> ./configure, make, make install
[01:03] <mikedep333> but if you need to compile networkmanager itself too, forget it
[01:03] <linuxmonkey> sorry halcyonCorsair install kubuntu and we shall be able to help ya, but id have to say gentoo has a support chan on here i believe
[01:03] <mikedep333> and yeah, they are far more likely to be able to help you
[01:04] <mikedep333> besides, #gentoo is pretty big
[01:04] <jbirdAngel> any nice WYSIWYG editors besides Nvu?
[01:04] <halcyonCorsair> hmm, i don't know that anyone there will be onto networkmanager/knetworkmanager yet
[01:04] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on.
[01:05] <Shuriken> james_xxx: same problem here !
[01:05] <mikedep333> halcyonCorsair: 940 people in it and you know that none of them are into this app!
[01:06] <mikedep333> sorry, i gotta go
[01:06] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: ah, but how many are paying attention :)
[01:06] <james_xxx> Shuriken: did u just upgrade to KDE 3.5.3?
[01:06] <CaBlGuY> Ummmmm   linuxmonkey, I aint gettin anywhere with this repository stuff..  all the wiki stuff is for pre-dapper
[01:06] <Shuriken> yes, Kubuntu 6.06 and KDE 3.5.3
[01:07] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: im gonna update it, but here's what you do
[01:07] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i am thinking that the 3.5.3 upgrade messed with our screen saver operability
[01:07] <beuntje> can someone help me to get my tv card working in dapper??? breezy works without anyproblems
[01:07] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  ok...
[01:08] <Shuriken> james_xxx: yes, i'm thinking that too, it worked well with KDE 3.5.2
[01:08] <james_xxx> Shuriken: have your screen savers worked since your KDE 3.5.3 upgrade?
[01:08] <james_xxx> Shuriken: same here
[01:08] <dh> no wonder I couldnt do anythign in Konsole, its case sensitive ?
[01:08] <james_xxx> Shuriken: they worked after the dapper upgrade, too
[01:08] <beuntje> but saa7134 not
[01:09] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: kmenu->run command->adept, when prompted type your password. when in adept on top click on Adept->manage repositories
[01:09] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i am thinking this is a KDE 3.5.3 bug
[01:09] <Shuriken> yes, i was running dapper + kde 3.5.2 for flight 5 release
[01:09] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  I tried loading adept, says it's not there..
[01:09] <CaBlGuY> :/
[01:09] <james_xxx> Shuriken: or possibly an issue with openGL? i have been trying to use openGL screen savers
[01:10] <halcyonCorsair> can someone tell me where i can grab the amd64 knetworkmanager package from?
[01:10] <ryanakca> I don't want to start a programming language war... But, I have never programmed before, and I am wondering what programming language I should learn. Ruby, PHP, or Python. I used HTML (no, that isn't programming), as well as a bit of python and php...
[01:10] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: hrmmm ok now thats funny
[01:10] <dh> DamN i just installed 5.10 and 6.06 is out. lol So I just install over it ?
[01:11] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  sudo apt-get install adept
[01:11] <CaBlGuY> ok.
[01:11] <Shuriken> james_xxx: i don't think openGL is involved, i use openGL with Kaffeine/Xine and it works well
[01:12] <james_xxx> hmmm
[01:13] <dh> Thanks
[01:13] <CaBlGuY> installing now..
[01:13] <ryanakca> np
[01:13] <Shuriken> if you are not sure, try a non-openGL screensaver, i don't think it will work
[01:14] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got adept open now..
[01:14] <james_xxx> how do i kill a program that is apparently running in the background?
[01:14] <james_xxx> i need to kill adept
[01:14] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  ok sweet
[01:15] <Kadran> james_xxx: pidof adept
[01:15] <james_xxx> Kadran: ty
[01:15] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  workin it now..    :p
[01:15] <Kadran> np
[01:15] <Shuriken> james_xxx: killall adept
[01:15] <richi_> where can i get a .deb version of XFree86-libs and  XFree86-Mesa-libGL?
[01:16] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  now  when you enable the universe you will have to manually type in multiverse after it.
[01:16] <dontm> how do i fix my routing table?
[01:16] <Shuriken> or, [CTRL] [ALT] [ECHAP]  and click on the window
[01:16] <dontm> route -n is a lil wacky =-]
[01:16] <james_xxx> Shuriken: adept(4980): Operation not permitted
[01:16] <Shuriken> oh, sorry
[01:16] <Shuriken> sudo killall adpet
[01:16] <james_xxx> no prob
[01:16] <james_xxx> ahhh
[01:17] <james_xxx> lol
[01:17] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  the one that says universe will nOt and all that right??
[01:19] <james_xxx> is there a support channel for KDE?
[01:19] <CaBlGuY> this is it..
[01:19] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  ok there is one in there ...hod a sec im gonna get it
[01:19] <pppoe_dude> james_xxx, #kde
[01:19] <CaBlGuY> KUbuntu is Ubuntu with K installed
[01:19] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  ok...
[01:20] <mikedep333> hey guys, is there a way to find a list of the most commonly installed apps from the ubuntu servers?
[01:20] <mikedep333> or some list of recomendations
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> is there a quanta plus IRC chat that anyone is aware of?
[01:21] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: right click on the one that says dapper universe  (NOT BACKPORT) and click on enable
[01:22] <CaBlGuY> both of them right linuxmonkey
[01:22] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: then right behind universe type multiverse and hit enter and do the same for the line just bellow that one and then apply and fetch updates
[01:22] <CaBlGuY> ok
[01:22] <Kadran> i am surfing to some sites that looks really different in konquror than it is viewd in ms ie, is it something in konq or the site loves bill gates?
[01:23] <mikedep333> Kadran: with most web development, browser specific bugs pop up for every browser
[01:24] <mikedep333> the site probably didn't bother to test it with konqueror or probably not safari
[01:24] <mikedep333> firefox will probably help
[01:24] <Kadran> mikedep333: the lines are over each other?
[01:24] <mikedep333> Kadran: i see that sometimes
[01:24] <mikedep333> or pictures are over text
[01:24] <mikedep333> even in firefox
[01:24] <Kadran> even in fireox
[01:25] <CaBlGuY> ok, linuxmonkey the ones that say just dapper under Distrobution, or dapper-security??
[01:25] <Kadran> i tried all the browsers i knows, opera, firefox, konq, the only one helped was lynx :)
[01:26] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: it should be the ones that say archive in it and that dont meantion backport
[01:26] <james_xxx> Shuriken: according to people i spoke with in #KDE, the issue with the screen savers is probably a kubuntu packaging problem/bug
[01:27] <Kadran> mikedep333: is there is a setting i can do to let konq see it normally currently i have installed ms ie on linux and run it with wine but it is toooooooo slow
[01:27] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: for me i got deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:27] <Shuriken> james_xxx: yes, i am on the KDE chan and i read this.
[01:27] <mikedep333> Kadran: I just strongly suggest you install firefox or another mozilla based browser.
[01:27] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: also  got  deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:28] <McScruff> hi , i accidently resized my main partition and i need to resize it bigger again but qtparted on the kubuntu livecd wont let me resize!!!
[01:28] <mikedep333> you know that you can install all the ubuntu apps, right? firefox works fine in kde
[01:28] <Kadran> ok mikedep333 i will see the site in firefox now, ty
[01:29] <mikedep333> np
[01:29] <CaBlGuY> well, I've tried it a few times now linuxmonkey but nothin is happenein..  lemme close adept and re open it..
[01:29] <linuxmonkey> lol
[01:29] <james_xxx> McScruff: i would recommend downloading the gparted live CD... it is a one-purpoe distro just for partitioning issues
[01:29] <mikedep333> Kadran: actually firefox still goes to open downloads in gnome apps, but still
[01:29] <McScruff> james_xxx: kk, ty
[01:29] <james_xxx> the Gparted live CD had bailed me out a few times
[01:29] <james_xxx> has*
[01:30] <dontm> can anyone give me a print out of their route -n ?
[01:30] <james_xxx> purpose*
[01:30] <CaBlGuY> Oooooo  kay, now I know why nothin was changin, It;s not askin me for the root pass, it's just openin adept up..
[01:30] <CaBlGuY> :/
[01:30] <CaBlGuY> that's why I can't change the repositories...
[01:31] <linuxmonkey> lol how did u open adept?
[01:31] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on. should a bug report be filed for kubuntu?
[01:31] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  it just opens .. I used the run app.....
[01:32] <linuxmonkey> try this. close adept
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> k, closed..
[01:32] <linuxmonkey> alt+F2
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> k..
[01:32] <linuxmonkey> type adept and hit enter
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> that's what I been doin..
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> :p
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> this "warning" comes up, tellin me I can;t cjhange nothin,.,.
[01:33] <mikedep333> james_xxx: make sure kscreensaver is installed and right click on the desktop to set the screensaver time
[01:33] <McScruff> james_xxx: do you have a link for the qtparted live cd?
[01:33] <mikedep333> gotta go, bbl
[01:33] <linuxmonkey> odd
[01:33] <Kadran> mikedep333: YES it works, thanks
[01:33] <linuxmonkey> for me it ask to type the root pw
[01:33] <mikedep333> Kadran: np
[01:33] <CaBlGuY> says it's in "read only mode"///
[01:39] <Shuriken> mikedep333: in fact, kscreensaver works, you can preview the current screensaver by clicking on 'test', but the choosen screensaver doesn't run after an inactivity while
[01:39] <james_xxx> mikedep333: kscreensaver is installed and configured... it just isn't working and it appears i am not alone in this
[01:40] <james_xxx> McScruff: the live CD is Gparted, not qtparted... i'll look for it
[01:40] <mikedep333> sorry guys: but I haven't experienced this bug myself
[01:40] <mikedep333> I installed ubuntu and then the package group kubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <mikedep333> my screensaver is fireworks 3d (GL)
[01:41] <james_xxx> mikedep333: that is what mine WAS
[01:41] <james_xxx> lol
[01:41] <mikedep333> perhaps you guys are trying to use a 3d screensaver without opengl support?
[01:41] <mikedep333> but sorry, I gotta go
[01:41] <james_xxx> mikedep333: no, it was all working until i upgraded to KDE 3.5.3 yesterday
[01:41] <mikedep333> james_xxx: oh
[01:41] <Shuriken> mikedep333: are you runny KDE 3.5.2 or 3.5.3 ?
[01:41] <mikedep333> 3.5.2
[01:42] <mikedep333> from the official repo
[01:42] <mikedep333> where did you get 3.5.3?
[01:42] <mikedep333> the individual debs on kde.org?
[01:42] <Shuriken> ok, that's why it works for you (:
[01:42] <james_xxx> yep
[01:42] <Shuriken> james_xxx and I are running KDE 3.5.3
[01:42] <james_xxx> it worked for me on 3.5.2 as well
[01:42] <mikedep333> just curious, why did you guys upgrade to 3.5.3?
[01:43] <mikedep333> it is almost entirely a bug fix release
[01:43] <mikedep333> and I haven't experienced any bugs
[01:43] <mikedep333> with kde
[01:43] <Shuriken> and openGL works well (i play games aand videos with openGL)
[01:43] <james_xxx> mikedep333: a lot of people have... there are instructions on how to do it at kubuntu.org
[01:43] <mikedep333> wow, that was quick
[01:44] <james_xxx> mikedep333: i would maybe hold off on upgrading for a bit
[01:44] <mikedep333> yeah
[01:44] <Shuriken> i've got all the KDE repos' in my sources.list, so i did a dist-upgrade
[01:44] <mikedep333> Shuriken: oh
[01:44] <mikedep333> i thought they only put the packages up in folders by themselves
[01:44] <mikedep333> still, i gotta go, later guys and gl
[01:44] <Shuriken> ok, good bye !
[01:45] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i am thinking  i would downgrade to 3.5.2 if i could.... but that would probably cause more issues lol
[01:46] <kosh> hmm so far I have had no problems with 3.5.3
[01:46] <james_xxx> kosh: are your screensavers woking?
[01:47] <Shuriken> anyway, except this screensaver issue, KDE 3.5.3 is pretty, it's far faster at start
[01:47] <james_xxx> working*
[01:47] <james_xxx> Shuriken: yeah, i just hope they fix the screensaver thing
[01:47] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i just wish i knew where to report this to
[01:48] <Riddell> james_xxx: what's up with the screensaver?
[01:48] <Shuriken> it doesn't work in KDE 3.5.3 after an inactivity while
[01:48] <linuxmonkey> omg its rideell
[01:48] <linuxmonkey> omg its riddell
[01:49] <linuxmonkey> lol
[01:49] <james_xxx> Riddell: since i upgraded to 3.5.3 my screensavers do not owrk
[01:49] <Riddell> right
[01:49] <Shuriken> but you can preview it by clicking on the 'test' button
[01:49] <Riddell> ok, I'll look into it
[01:49] <kosh> james_xxx: hmm I have not used a screensaver in years
[01:49] <james_xxx> yep, you can preview, but they never come on
[01:49] <kosh> james_xxx: no idea if it is working
[01:50] <james_xxx> kosh: that is really the only issue i have had. not a biggie, but still a bug of some sort
[01:50] <klerfayt> how you do in kubuntu network restart?
[01:50] <kosh> james_xxx: I just let my monitors go to standby or I turn them off
[01:50] <james_xxx> kosh: well, that is not what my system is configured to do, but that is what it is doing lol
[01:51] <kosh> james_xxx: it doesn't do me much good to run a screensaver if it just puts the cpu into high load state trying to run the screensaver
[01:51] <bachstudies> james_xxx: only just seen your messages but i had the same problem until a few days ago
[01:51] <james_xxx> kosh: i understand.. bit i still want them to work :-)
[01:51] <james_xxx> bachstudies: what did u do to fix it?
[01:52] <bachstudies> james_xxx: well for a start you need to make that the monitor power save is enabled
[01:53] <bachstudies> james_xxx: then you need to add an option "DPMS" into your x config under monitor section
[01:53] <james_xxx> bachstudies: ok, monitor power save is already enabled
[01:54] <Shuriken> bachstudies: thanks for the tips, i'm going to test that
[01:54] <Brujah> Hello everybody
[01:54] <james_xxx> bachstudies: how do i get to the monitor section? i see nothing for x config
[01:55] <nico8481> re
[01:55] <Shuriken> james_xxx: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[01:55] <nnn0> :)
[01:56] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ty
[01:56] <Shuriken> bachstudies: it's done. i suppose i need to restart X ?
[01:56] <mongey> if i burn a cd install of kubuntu?
[01:56] <Shuriken> james_xxx: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:56] <mongey> and install it?
[01:56] <Shuriken> not *CONG
[01:56] <Brujah> I want to build a new deb package for ubuntu. I am reading the debian-new-maintainers-guide. And I get to the point where I need to call dh_make. Which is not existing. What can I do?
[01:57] <nocloud> okay,  i just installed gimp, but,  iuno where to go to launch the program
[01:57] <nocloud> where did gimp get installed?
[01:57] <james_xxx> Shuriken: you guys lost me on this. how do i configure all of this??
[01:58] <mluser-work> is there a way to get macromedia flash player installed in kubuntu?
[01:58] <sampan> nocloud, when i installed gimp it was automatically put into kmenu --> graphics
[01:58] <nnn0> nocloud, try in shell$ gimp &
[01:58] <nocloud> hmmm, it didn't show up for me.....
[01:58] <Shuriken> james_xxx: type 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:58] <mongey> antone?
[01:58] <Shuriken> this is the X configutation file
[01:58] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i did that... what next?
[01:58] <Shuriken> there is many sections into it
[01:59] <sampan> nocloud, try what nnn0 said ... call it from CLI (gimp &)  ... if that works, you can use the kmenu editor to add an entry to your kmenu for it
[01:59] <Shuriken> go to section "Monitor"
[01:59] <nocloud> where is the kmenu editor?
[01:59] <nocloud> and yea, the trick through the console worked
[01:59] <Shuriken> and add a line into this section
[01:59] <mongey> if i burn a cd install of kubuntu onto a dvd ?
[01:59] <linuxmonkey> Nocloud right click on the Kmenu
[01:59] <nnn0> nocloud, just rightclick on the K
[01:59] <Shuriken> Option "DMPS"
[01:59] <nnn0> :)
[01:59] <linuxmonkey> :)
[02:00] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ok it already says "DPMS"
[02:00] <Shuriken> nooo
[02:00] <Shuriken> DPMS
[02:00] <Shuriken> yes, that's it (:
[02:00] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ok that is already there
[02:00] <mongey> anyone?
[02:00] <Shuriken> oh ?not for me
[02:00] <Shuriken> strange.
[02:01] <james_xxx> yeah, it is already there for me. my guess is that is not my problem with the screen savers
[02:01] <Shuriken> well, i restart X...
[02:02] <mongey> if i burn a cd install of kubuntu onto a dvd will it work?
[02:02] <linuxmonkey> yes mongey
[02:02] <linuxmonkey> its what I did
[02:03] <mongey> good
[02:03] <mongey> ive loads of dvds and no cds
[02:03] <Shuriken> james_xxx: now i need to wait 1min...  (:
[02:03] <james_xxx> Shuriken:  ok lol
[02:04] <james_xxx> brb
[02:04] <mongey> !install
[02:04] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[02:05] <mongey> should i partion now?
[02:05] <Shuriken> james_xxx: nothing happens ):
[02:05] <Shuriken> still doesn't work.
[02:05] <james_xxx> Shuriken: just as i suspected lol
[02:06] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i think it is a bug in kubuntu's KDE 3.5.3 packages
[02:06] <mongey> how long does the installation take
[02:06] <Shuriken> james_xxx: is it possible to report it on 'malone' ?
[02:07] <bachstudies> james_xxx: basically KDE have changed the way it deals with xscreensaver (something to do with wrappers) and so it is a fault with KDE. However, I've not had the problem since moving from PClinuxOS to Kubuntu 6.06
[02:11] <mongey> is there problems with Linux, Windows XP and NTFS
[02:14] <james_xxx> Shuriken: what is malone?
[02:14] <Shuriken> mongey: what do you mean ?
[02:14] <Shuriken> james_xxx: malone is a 'bug tracker report'
[02:14] <james_xxx> bachyou do have KDE 3.5.3? i did not have this issue with 3.5.2
[02:14] <Shuriken> but i've never use it yet
[02:15] <Shuriken> and my english langage is too poor to do a correct bug report
[02:15] <james_xxx> Shuriken: your english is fine
[02:15] <nico8481> could anyone type my nick so i can check if konversation's notification works?
[02:16] <james_xxx> nico8481: what's up
[02:16] <nico8481> james_xxx: thanks :)
[02:16] <Shuriken> james_xxx: lol, i'm glad to hear it (:
[02:16] <james_xxx> nico8481: np
[02:18] <mongey> is there problems with Linux, Windows XP and NTFS
[02:18] <nico8481> james_xxx: once again maybe? :o)
[02:18] <james_xxx> nico8481: no problem lol
[02:18] <nico8481> ok cool, got it to do what i want :) thx
[02:19] <james_xxx> well Shuriken how do i report this on malone?
[02:19] <Shuriken> i think it's on launchpad
[02:19] <Shuriken> wait a sec...
[02:20] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ugh, maybe i should just forget about screen saves, they'll probably fix thiswhen KDE 4.0 comes out
[02:20] <james_xxx> savers*
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> I can feel it in my bones....   :p
[02:21] <phasegen> does anyone know how much difference there is between final release and the rc?
[02:23] <phasegen> I tried following the upgrade from breezy to the rc of dapper, and it only grabbed one item from the cd, it's trying to grab everything else from the server...
[02:24] <Shuriken> james_xxx: lauchpad is too complex for me :p, maybe you'll manage to do something with this stuff https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+package/kscreensaver
[02:24] <phasegen> I have very slow dialup - a.k.a. 3days and 15 hours left to download and install
[02:26] <Shuriken> i think this issue will be fix far before KDE 4 release !
[02:26] <ubuntu_> i try instal Kubuntu 6.06 but this have bug :/
[02:26] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i'll give it a whirl... although itmay be just well enough that Riddell saw what we were typing
[02:27] <Shuriken> yes, we are lucky I guess =)
[02:28] <james_xxx> Riddell: was the screen saver issue a known problem for 3.5.3?
[02:29] <icheyne> does "wireless assistant" support wpa?
[02:34] <icheyne> hmm. This only mentions WEP http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[02:34] <icheyne> not a good sign
[02:35] <icheyne> anyone know how to get it working?
[02:35] <GNAM> any particular problem using synaptic in kubuntu?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt notice any
[02:37] <Shuriken> GNAM: i suggest you to use Adept
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ANyone know how to fix a mbr ...  I know fdisk /mbr I have a boot floppy, I can get back to xp using a dual boot floppy
[02:37] <tonygao> haha, katapult is real cook^.^
[02:38] <ubuntu_> jets tu ktos z polski ?
[02:39] <tonygao> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33985
[02:40] <tonygao> Is this new app for KDE?
[02:42] <Shuriken> tonygao: no, i'm using it for several months
[02:45] <mluser-work> How do I get mplayer to install with the adept_installer.. its grayed out
[02:45] <james_xxx> how would i make a boot floppy to boot live CD distros?
[02:45] <Shuriken> mluser-work: I suggest you to install kmplayer instead
[02:46] <mluser-work> Shuriken: I do have kmplayer installed.. but would like to use mplayer as the backend
[02:47] <Shuriken> james_xxx: a floppy ? don't you just need to set the boot devices in the BIOS for boot on a live CD ?
[02:47] <james_xxx> Shuriken: under normal circumstances, yes
[02:48] <LinuxNewbie> Hello, I am using Kubuntu 5.10 at the moment (I justinstalled it) anyway I wanna use the newer version but if I upgrade will I lose all my settings ?
[02:48] <james_xxx> Shuriken: but with damn small linux, you can download files to make a floppy to assist in booting live CDs or live USB drives
[02:48] <Shuriken> so, dunno... i dont' use floppys
[02:49] <james_xxx> Shuriken: this would be for some older machines
[02:49] <Shuriken> mluser-work: and what's the matter ? why can't you install mplayer ? is there any message error ?
[02:50] <LinuxNewbie> A lot of things in Kubuntu is Case Sensitive ?
[02:50] <ubuntu_> who here have kubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:50] <mluser-work> Shuriken: No.. its just grayed out, I have cheked the Unsopported and Proprietary check boxes and still cant install it
[02:51] <Shuriken> LinuxNewbie: First question : no. The second : yes
[02:51] <CaBlGuY> LinuxNewbie:  no, if you update, u will not loose any mof your settings, files, etc..  should work fine..
[02:51] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  must b an echo i here..
[02:51] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:51] <ubuntu_> :/
[02:51] <LinuxNewbie> Shuriken: I am guessing the case sensitive is a security thing.
[02:52] <ubuntu_> who here have kubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:52] <Shuriken> ubuntu_: i am running dapper
[02:52] <CaBlGuY> as am i
[02:52] <ubuntu_> i have problem when i try install kubuntu
[02:52] <ubuntu_> :/
[02:52] <CaBlGuY> so far, I love it..
[02:52] <LinuxNewbie> I wanted to get the 6.06 DVD from HTTP buts its overloaded
[02:53] <Shuriken> LinuxNewbie: But in most of cases, you can choose to activate or no the case sensitive (by exemple, in konqueror)
[02:53] <CaBlGuY> LinuxNewbie:  did you try all the sorce links??  thers several..
[02:54] <LinuxNewbie> No no i like it :D it will stop a lot of stuff. lol
[02:54] <Shuriken> what about use BitTorrent download ?
[02:54] <mluser-work> Anyone know of a repository where I can get libdvdread with DVD encryption support?
[02:54] <LinuxNewbie> Cabiguy: No there was only 1 and torrent was going to take hours. and I wanted to start to learn linux now.
[02:54] <LinuxNewbie> I thought I would upgrade later on tommorrow or something.
[02:55] <LinuxNewbie> I installed FF using Package Manager but it is an old version. How do I install new one over it ?
[02:55] <Shuriken> are you running breezy ?
[02:55] <CaBlGuY> LinuxNewbie:  here try this page...  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:56] <LinuxNewbie> I want Kubuntu.
[02:56] <ubuntu_> lolz
[02:56] <GazzaK> ubuntu_:  what problem?
[02:56] <ubuntu_> i have but cant install :]
[02:56] <CaBlGuY> ahh then yue screwd then..
[02:56] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:56] <ubuntu_> GazzaK: dont know :/ chae 70% and instal stoped > time 487:45
[02:57] <ubuntu_> have*
[02:57] <LinuxNewbie> I do not know what the difference between then are.
[02:57] <LinuxNewbie> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[02:57] <Xaero_Vincent> yea I want to get kubuntu 6.06 too... things are really slow right now
[02:57] <GazzaK> ubuntu_: checked the md5 checksum?  I have read a bit about a torrent being corrupt
[02:58] <Shuriken> LinuxNewbie: difference between what ?
[02:58] <ubuntu_> i instal today ubuntu 6.06 and works good now i try kubuntu 6.06 but i cant install ;(
[02:58] <McScruff> how can i tell if kubuntu is using my swap partition>?#
[02:58] <LinuxNewbie> Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[02:58] <LinuxNewbie> Nevermind from what I hear, with Linux you need to Google a lot. lol
[02:58] <Shuriken> Ubuntu : Gnome desktop. Kubuntu : KDE desktop (KDE stands for K Desktop Environnement)
[02:58] <GazzaK> McScruff: how much ram do you have?
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> really, honestly, there is no diff.  Just "kubuntu" is Ubuntu with the K environment, that's it..
[02:59] <McScruff> GazzaK: 512
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> So that is it ?
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> I'm runnin regular ubuntu and it's workin great fro me..
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> 1 uses Gnome other use KDE
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> yes, LinuxNewbie that's it
[02:59] <ubuntu_> i checked CD and i have 1 err :/
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> Gnome anygood ?
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> I love Gnome and that's what I have installed
[02:59] <GazzaK> kde looks like kde, a bit more eye candy, gmone is more plainish looking
[03:00] <ubuntu_> kde beter :P
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> LOL  Oh brother here we go..
[03:00] <McScruff> i have gnome on desktop and kde on laptop, im split right down the middle, both are great but at diff things
[03:00] <Shuriken> anyway, there is no difference between KDE and Gnome packages
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> I'm more of a minimalist so, I'm not big on "bells and wistels"...
[03:00] <GazzaK> McScruff: it will only use the swap once that 512 is used, basically
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> Gnome is more basic and simpler ...
[03:01] <ubuntu_> fuck ;/
[03:01] <Shuriken> well, KDE can be minimalistic too (:
[03:01] <ubuntu_> sry..
[03:01] <McScruff> GazzaK: i just played with my partitions and remade my linux-swap, will it auto use the linux swap i just created?
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> K, has all the "windowesk" type stuff.
[03:01] <ubuntu_> istaler crasched ;/
[03:01] <McScruff> my kde is set up to look like gnome :P
[03:01] <ubuntu_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:01] <ubuntu_>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 130, in ?
[03:01] <ubuntu_>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[03:01] <ubuntu_> ...
[03:01] <GazzaK> I like kde, but thats my choice, I also tried gnome, but just liked kde more.  i'm a arty person, and maybe the bouncing icons won me over :)
[03:01] <ubuntu_> :(
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> LOL  McScruff yur silly..
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:01] <james_xxx> GazzaK: how can you make the icons bounce? lol
[03:01] <McScruff> well its an upside down version , menus at bottom taskbar at top
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu. what are u installing??
[03:02] <jbirdAngel> do the bouncing icons cause it to go slower?
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> jbirdAngel:  not generaly..
[03:02] <GazzaK> james_xxx: it is part of Kubuntu
[03:02] <ubuntu_> kubuntu 6.06
[03:02] <james_xxx> ok
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu_,  aghhhh   sorry, im not the expert here.. :p
[03:03] <jbirdAngel> CaBlGuY: okay thanks
[03:03] <GazzaK> when you open a app, the app's icon bounces - it amused me
[03:03] <McScruff> GazzaK: so is there a way that i can see if kubuntu would use the new linux swap i found, or will it auto use any it finds
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> jbirdAngel:  yur very welcome..  ;)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> but i dont know CD have bug sor instaler ? ;/
[03:03] <GazzaK> it should use any swap partitions it finds, same as a live cd will too
[03:03] <james_xxx> GazzaK: i see what you mean. i was hoping there was a way to make the icons in the task bar bounce when you cursor over them, like in MacOSX
[03:03] <McScruff> GazzaK: so if i install another os on this hdd i wont need another swap?
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu_ I've heard several people complain about the k instalation..   u should try Ubuntu.. :p
[03:03] <ubuntu_> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[03:03] <ubuntu_> lol
[03:04] <jbirdAngel> what does swap area do?
[03:04] <GazzaK> McScruff: if you use a live cd on that machine, it will actually see the swap partition on the hard drive and use that :)
[03:04] <ubuntu_> i have ununtu..
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> at any rate, im off for abit..
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> bbl peeps.
[03:04] <ubuntu_> but now i wanan kubuntu ;P
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[03:04] <LinuxNewbie> To upgrade Firefox do I just extract new version to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox ?
[03:05] <word> !firefox
[03:05] <LinuxNewbie> !firefox
[03:05] <LinuxNewbie> !firefox
[03:05] <word> type !firefox1.5
[03:05] <GazzaK> ubuntu_: there is a way to install kde on top of gnome and then you can choose at login what desktop environment to use
[03:05] <LinuxNewbie> !firefox1.5
[03:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:05] <McScruff> GazzaK: its not ontop, its next too :)
[03:06] <GazzaK> McScruff: well thats being pedantic :p
[03:06] <GazzaK> nice nick McScruff
[03:07] <McScruff> ubuntu_: install kubuntu and do apt-get install gnome-desktop , then at the logon screen click session and choose either one (like gazzak said),
[03:07] <McScruff> ty GazzaK
[03:08] <LinuxNewbie> How do I turn off 2Windows in 1. Like XP has
[03:08] <LinuxNewbie> I cannot remember the name of it
[03:08] <McScruff> right click desktop
[03:08] <ubuntu_> "[03:07]  <McScruff> ubuntu_: install kubuntu " i cant :P
[03:08] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: right click on desktop - desktop properties- multiple desktops
[03:09] <word> McScruff: I think he's talking about something else..
[03:09] <McScruff> ubuntu_: why :(
[03:09] <McScruff> word: ok sorry :(
[03:09] <ubuntu_> dont know some err
[03:09] <james_xxx> i'm gonna ask a question once more that i have posted a few times today, just to see if anyone has a suggestion...
[03:09] <ubuntu_> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[03:09] <word> McScruff: Naw just an observation because he says XP has it..lol Xp doesn't have multiple desktops
[03:09] <LinuxNewbie> What does Multiple Desktops do ?
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone here know about disabling the tap-to-click on synaptics touchpads? I've the the 'MaxTapTime 0' thing, but it still taps.
[03:10] <McScruff> lets u have from 1 - manymany workscreens
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754737 <--- there's my xorg.conf
[03:10] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: exactly what it says :)
[03:10] <McScruff> james_xxx: your question, even tho i prob cant help
[03:11] <james_xxx> lol
[03:11] <GazzaK> james_xxx: whats the question?
[03:11] <orient2000> Did you know there is a vine Ubuntu? You can buy it in Canadian liquer store for 10c$. taste good. Maybe they could sponsor Linux and Linux sponsor them in a wise way. Anybody has any ideas for that? Only fish don't drink.
[03:11] <McScruff> wtf is vine ubuntu? a wine?
[03:11] <james_xxx> Well, it seems that for some people using kubuntu dapper, after having upgraded to KDE 3.5.3, their screen savers no longer work.... any idea???
[03:11] <james_xxx> ideas*
[03:12] <orient2000> sorry a wine 14% alcohol
[03:12] <james_xxx> my screen savers are not working
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: Hmm, lemme check. I don't usually use screensavers. :P
[03:12] <McScruff> james_xxx:  lemmie test mine
[03:12] <GazzaK> james_xxx: i've seen similar on the forums this evening, but no definate answer yet, so I'm holding back
[03:12] <Slappy> mine works
[03:12] <LinuxNewbie> word: Thanks I am updating Firefox now :D
[03:12] <word> LinuxNewbie: No problem.
[03:13] <james_xxx> Slappy: are yoou using dapper and KDE 3.5.3?
[03:13] <Shuriken> the issue james_xxx is talking about is only in KDE 3.5.3
[03:13] <McScruff> james_xxx: stupid but i will ask, by default in dapper they aint turned on, did u tick the box that says start automatically?
[03:13] <orient2000> My screen savers use to freeze my computer 3 weeks ago and I dah to reset few times. I did not check it up since.
[03:13] <james_xxx> yeah, my screen savers worked fine with 3.5.2
[03:13] <McScruff> i never use screensaver as my lappy goes to sleep 1st
[03:13] <james_xxx> McScruff: yes, everything is configured to work.... but it just don't work
[03:14] <McScruff> :(
[03:14] <McScruff> pray for an update
[03:14] <ubuntu_> http://newelski.com/~plutosek/bug.png
[03:14] <ubuntu_> :(
[03:14] <LinuxNewbie> Now I got to figure out how to transfer my profile over.  If you do not have close to it and many problems you should do fuul upgrade.
[03:20] <Slappy> Arnieboys automatix script
[03:20] <LinuxNewbie> So I can run mIRC and few other programs I know do not have Linux parts to it
[03:20] <ubuntu_> ou
[03:20] <ubuntu_> ops not here
[03:20] <Slappy> in the ubuntu forums
[03:20] <GazzaK> what about it Slappy
[03:20] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: why mirc....
[03:20] <GazzaK> got a link?
[03:21] <Slappy> one sec
[03:21] <LinuxNewbie> I like the how I set it up with scripts and stuff
[03:21] <LinuxNewbie> that and I can see 2 channels in it
[03:21] <Slappy> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[03:21] <Slappy> install bamm and done
[03:21] <Kadran> !vmware
[03:21] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[03:21] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: im sure if you try konversation/kvirc or even xchat you will like what u see
[03:22] <Slappy> xchat is nice
[03:22] <GazzaK> Slappy: you like it?
[03:22] <Slappy> xchat   or automatix
[03:22] <LinuxNewbie> I am using koversation now
[03:22] <LinuxNewbie> Problem is I want the "#kubuntu etc etc thign on the left side
[03:22] <GazzaK> automatix
[03:23] <Slappy> Oh hell yes,
[03:23] <LinuxNewbie> and i wanan be able to make them small windows so I have 2 windows in it
[03:23] <GazzaK> tell the developers, they love a nice bit of feedback :)
[03:23] <Slappy> i am a complete noob and bamm 10 mins i got a complete box
[03:23] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[03:23] <Slappy> i will!
[03:23] <Slappy> it is what linux needs
[03:23] <Slappy> i think it should almost be a part of ubuntu
[03:24] <Vose> I tyred to add the wine link to adapt and did it wrong then when I pressed update it charssed and now will not load up
[03:24] <Vose> any way of reseting the adapt program I tryed the two comands that come up on the error but they did not work
[03:24] <kbrooks> !automatix
[03:24] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[03:24] <kbrooks> and
[03:24] <LinuxNewbie> Kubuntu is ? For Ubuntu Breezy (5.10)
[03:24] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[03:24] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. . http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:25] <Vose> is those comments for me?
[03:25] <saj> hi guys....whats the shortcut to change desktop?
[03:25] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: kubuntu latest = 6.06
[03:25] <ubuntu_> yay have err
[03:25] <ubuntu_> ;P
[03:25] <McScruff> saj: do you mean switch desktops?
[03:26] <Vose> so foreget about adapt?
[03:26] <Kadran> saj: i like to roll the mouse wheel
[03:26] <LinuxNewbie> I am using 5.10
[03:26] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: upgrade :)
[03:26] <ubuntu_> i try instal 6.06 ;P
[03:26] <saj> Mcscruff: yes, is there a keyboard shortcut?
[03:27] <McScruff> saj: not as default, load kcontrol and change it there
[03:27] <LinuxNewbie> Would if the HTTP was not overloaded
[03:27] <saj> McScruff: how do i load Kcontrol?
[03:27] <McScruff> sag, k menu - run command - kcontrol
[03:28] <Kadran> could any one tell me what vmware used for?
[03:28] <McScruff> then goto regional & accessability - keyboard shortcuts
[03:29] <McScruff> Kadran: its a virtual machine to run other operating systems in
[03:29] <McScruff> Kadran: so you could run windows xp inside linux for example
[03:29] <Kadran> McScruff: something like win4lin?
[03:29] <McScruff> Kadran: yep
[03:30] <Kadran> kool
[03:30] <Kadran> that's what i am searching for, linux has it all :)
[03:31] <Kadran> McScruff: will 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player' install it?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> So, I assume that no one has a clue about solving my touchpad problems?
[03:32] <McScruff> Kadran: yes but that will only play pre-made vmware images, the workstation to build them costs money
[03:33] <zero> what's up with your touchpad chease
[03:33] <Kadran> so i will try to see an evaluation version then :)
[03:34] <LinuxNewbie> Damn I am having problems with wine
[03:34] <McScruff> Kadran: yep :), and run the install script
[03:34] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: its still crap :) i dont use it
[03:34] <Kadran> thanks McScruff
[03:34] <orient2000> mouse wheel rolls in my kubuntu with no problems at all.
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> orient2000: It's not the mouse wheel.
[03:35] <Kadran> McScruff: what emulator do you recommend?
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> orient2000: Im trying to disable the tap-to-click on my synaptics touchpad.  I'll see if I can find someone else. :)
[03:37] <LinuxNewbie> What download manager is good with Linux ?
[03:37] <jonathan_> Hey, can someone help me out? Heres the post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187173
[03:38] <LinuxNewbie> OMG soon I will leave Windows :D
[03:38] <LinuxNewbie> Except for the colour nothign is different
[03:38] <GazzaK> and it is free and legal :)
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Uh, I'd not go that far. It's different.
[03:38] <vinboy> hi
[03:39] <vinboy> i run Xgl now
[03:39] <vinboy> but it doesn't look any different
[03:39] <jonathan_> Anybody look at the link?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: No, I can't get my mouse to click on it. :\
[03:39] <vinboy> how do I check if i'm running Xgl?
[03:40] <jonathan_> just copy and past it in your browser
[03:40] <LinuxNewbie> How can I set icons and stuff to open when you double click it. 1 link annoys me.
[03:41] <MasterEvilAce> LinuxNewbie: mouse settings should have that
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Control Center > Peripherals > Mouse
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: I can't get my mouse over to your link. :|
[03:41] <jonathan_> I'll just past the part I need help with
[03:42] <zero> has anyone set up WPA wireless in 6.06?
[03:42] <jonathan_> I'm tring to give my wife permission to install programs and nothing else, so
[03:42] <McScruff> me
[03:42] <McScruff> zero: i have
[03:42] <jonathan_> username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/adept_installer
[03:43] <jonathan_> but it doesn't work for some reason
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry, I really have no idea. :(
[03:43] <mikedep333> hey guys, where did you say the instructions are for kopete .12 on dapper?
[03:45] <zero> mcsruff: where did you put the firmware files?  in 6.10 i put them in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware  but that doesn't seem to exist on my 6.06 install
[03:45] <McScruff> zero: what card do you have?
[03:46] <LinuxNewbie> Thanks
[03:47] <zero> mcscruff: oh sorry, i have a centrino lappy so i use the ipw2200 drivers and firmware as well as ieee80211 subsystem
[03:47] <McScruff> zero: not sure never used that card, i only use ndiswrapper and bcm43xx
[03:49] <zero> mcscruff:  dang.  so close :)
[03:49] <McScruff> just make sure u have wpasupplicant
[03:51] <zero> yeah i have wpa and the driver.  i just don't know where to put the firmware. thanks man
[03:51] <Blake7984-> how can i manually get my nic up and running (get automatic dhcp address and such)
[03:52] <Blake7984-> ifconfig eth0 up    wasnt quite enough apparently
[03:52] <McScruff> Blake7984-: after that do dhclient eth0
[03:53] <McScruff> that will get dhcp
[03:53] <Blake7984-> ahhh yes...seems familiar now :)
[03:54] <mikedep333> anyone? kopete .12 on dapper?
[03:54] <McScruff> whats new in it?
[03:54] <McScruff> any msn newness?
[04:01] <kbrooks> bbl, bed
[04:01] <LinuxNewbie> How can I make a BIN on the Desktop ?
[04:03] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: right click on desktop
[04:03] <LinuxNewbie> Yeha
[04:03] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: click "create new" > "link to location (URL)"
[04:03] <Blake7984-> hmm...anyone think they could help diagnose and fix some sudo/kdesu problems?
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> Yeah
[04:04] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: type "Trash" in name, and "trash:/" in location (do not type the "s)
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> Thanks
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> I figured the trash:/ bit but I kept doing a FOLDER
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[04:04] <GazzaK> I just did that myself not one min ago :)
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> Access denied to /home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/Delete Me.
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> When I try to delete that folder i keep gettign and error.
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> it has winetools stuff inside it
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo rm -rv "/home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/Delete Me" '
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[04:07] <jonathan_> Anybody know about editing sudoers?
[04:07] <LinuxNewbie> rm: cannot remove `/home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/DelMe': No such file or directory
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, that would be becaue there's no file or directy called 'DelMe' ;)
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> The 'Delete Me' is a folder, right?
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> Yeah
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> I tried DelMe as well because of the SPACE
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> rm: cannot remove `/home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/DelMe': No such file or directory
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just put the directory in quotes.
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> Nevermind, It worked when I removed DelMe'
[04:10] <LinuxNewbie> Sorry about that damn CTRL+C not used to not using it. lol
[04:10] <LinuxNewbie> arh it worked when i just used "DELME"
[04:10] <LinuxNewbie> so sudo = root. sm and -rv = ?
[04:11] <LinuxNewbie> I need to learn these commands.
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> r = recursive  v = verbose
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> So it removes everything in the directory (and the directory), and tells you what it's doing.
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> rm is remove
[04:11] <LinuxNewbie> I am going to try and install WINE from the begning now
[04:11] <LinuxNewbie> Its like the windows RD command
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Dunno, I never use the Windows command-line thingy
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> How do I turn this CaSe Sensitive thign of ?
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> it is now pissing me off. lol
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> I type Dir and it says not found.
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: try using 'ls'
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> But is it good ot turn it off or pgorams use it ?
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Turn what off?
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> Case Sensitive
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> dir = works and Dir = NOT FOUND
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can't AFAIK
[04:15] <LinuxNewbie> Installing and configuraing and now I got to add LEARNING programs is going to annoy me but I will endure it.
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: You gotta learn if you do anything new, but if you don't do anything new, you never have fun. :)
[04:17] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: linux is not the same as windows :)  but please trust me, it might be a very steep learning curve, but the satisfaction is worth it
[04:17] <lizardmane> What's easiest way to email an attachment with just a command line in the command shell?
[04:17] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: I'm a windows based system admin - I have to relearn years of sys admin stuff...
[04:17] <LinuxNewbie> That and no Antivirus and software firewalls.
[04:18] <LinuxNewbie> I already got a Celeron. lol
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: There's iptables and clamav for firewall and antivirus :P
[04:18] <GazzaK> firecracker is a firewall, and avg free is availible if you really want it
[04:18] <LinuxNewbie> Also my Windows XP's Registry = 90Megs its full of crap I have uninstalled.
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> GazzaK: Yeah, but AVG Free only has RPMs :(
[04:19] <GazzaK> and source, so it can be compiled, afaik
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> I didn't see source when I looked. It may be on a different page, though.
[04:19] <lizardmane> Send me packing; please tell what channel to join to get this question answered: What's easiest way to email an attachment with just a command line in the command shell?
[04:19] <LinuxNewbie> For some reason when it comes to PC I do my best work at night, when everyone is asleep and no noise except that of a fan
[04:20] <GazzaK> CheeseBurgerMan: sorry I'm wrong, it is rpms
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Because everyone's asleep? ;)
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> GazzaK: Rats. I was hoping you were right.
[04:21] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: i'm in the UK, it's like 3:21am now - so I'm the same...
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> I wonder what programs I can use instead of the Windows ones ?
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> Gazzak: Yeah
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: For what?
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm in the US..its only about 10:21 now. :P
[04:21] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: there is a list on the forums
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> I got part of my programs list with me
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> Codecs including MKV, OGM, H264
[04:22] <GazzaK> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33183 - LinuxNewbie this thread
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> LogMeIn (I need I need to use WINE for this)
[04:22] <mrfishhat> anyone know an irc channel/network i can get some wine/cedega help with?
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> a DVD Player
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> Media Player Classic with Real and Quicktime Alternatives.
[04:22] <GazzaK> right, i am off to bed, before it gets too light!!!!
[04:23] <sorush20> hi guys I can't use alsa in system setting for the hardware audio device how do I do it?
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> G'night, GazzaK
[04:23] <LinuxNewbie> Night
[04:23] <lizardmane> why is not the case that everybody has the same time?
[04:23] <LinuxNewbie> How can I make Firefo default browser so when I click a link it opens it in Firefox
[04:23] <LinuxNewbie> instead of Konqurer
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Somewhere in the control center...let me look.
[04:24] <sorush20> what do I need to install in dapper to be able to use alsa in kubuntu?
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > KDE Components > Default Applications
[04:24] <Blake7984-> hmmm....in kcontrol, things work good...except the peripherals,display....theres nothing in it...it just comes up with the kcontrol intro screen on the right
[04:25] <Blake7984-> i would really like to hurry up and adjust my res and monitor setup
[04:25] <GazzaK> lizardmane: you are joking right?
[04:25] <LinuxNewbie> Got it :D WINETools opens up. I love how I installed Kubuntu 3 times now and other Linux Distros and now I am getting the hang of it. I knew I would do it few times before I start to use it
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> I do not see Defailt Aps
[04:26] <james_xxx> I just thought I would post this question again in the hopes tha there may be someone here who has a suggestion...  It seems that for some people using kubuntu dapper, after having upgraded to KDE 3.5.3, their screen savers no longer work.... any idea???
[04:26] <lizardmane> GazzaK: nope.  If it's 10 for someone in US, it should be 10 all around the world and in Andromeda also.
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Just a minute, I need to restart my X server.
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> Okay. I am using Kubuntu.
[04:26] <Blake7984-> any idea why kcontrol isnt letting me adjust display settings?
[04:26] <GazzaK> ever heard of timezones?
[04:27] <lizardmane> GazzaK: it would just mean that for some people 10 pm was daytime and for others nighttime.
[04:27] <[Relic] > weird bunch of people  :)
[04:27] <GazzaK> lizardmane: lol
[04:31] <GazzaK> I just had to submit that to bash.org (re timezones)
[04:31] <LinuxNewbie> what
[04:31] <robotgeek> GazzaK: you still here?
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33183
[04:32] <GazzaK> have a look on www.bash.org it is funny irc snippets
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> Damn it why dotn CTRL +C work here ?
[04:32] <GazzaK> robotgeek: yes!!!
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> I know GazzaK I was asking what the quote was
[04:32] <Hobbsee> GazzaK: link?
[04:32] <GazzaK> it needs approving
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> I am normally helping people with their Windows Problems.
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> azzaK: it would just mean that for some people 10 pm was daytime and for others nighttime.
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[04:33] <robotgeek> does anyone know how to flush dns cache?
[04:33] <LinuxNewbie> I am installing IE6 in WINE
[04:33] <LinuxNewbie> in XP ?
[04:33] <robotgeek> hmm, anyone knows how to flush the dns cache (i can ping google, but cant ping www.google.com)
[04:33] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[04:33] <GazzaK> but your 10pm will not be my 10pm
[04:33] <james_xxx> you can install IE6 in wine?
[04:34] <GazzaK> it is quote # 655689 if and when it gets approved
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[04:36] <Blake7984-> heh, itd be just as painful if it was called 7am or 2pm...would still be the same amount of daylight outside, thus the same start of the day
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: OK what was the problem?
[04:39] <LinuxNewbie> How can I make Firefo default browser so when I click a link it opens it in Firefox
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, which version of KDE are you using?
[04:40] <LinuxNewbie> the one that comes with Kubuntu 5.1
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> 3.4.2?
[04:40] <LinuxNewbie> I am guessing so
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Is it in KDE Components > Component Chooser (or something like that)?
[04:42] <LinuxNewbie> I wanna set Firefox as my default web browser.
[04:43] <Blake7984-> ok im having a serious problem here which is killing me....grub...i only have one menu.lst file, it is setup without the word "windows" even in it...but when i boot, grub shows a windows option..and more importantly, uses the wrong lines to load linux....what could be wrong
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I know, look in Control Center > KDE Components. It should be in one of those sections.
[04:44] <james_xxx> i just ran easyubuntu and got tons of errors
[04:45] <LinuxNewbie> Do you mean KDE Components itself or 1 of those icons.
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> One of the icons.
[04:47] <[Relic] > repository list?  seems I can't find mozilla only a billion firefox entries
[04:47] <LinuxNewbie> I will do it thru Open With... ?
[04:48] <LinuxNewbie> Seems to work :d
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> [Relic] : try 'sudo apt-get install mozilla'
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: are you dual booting?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: which operating systems?
[04:49] <[Relic] > I'll try that once the rest of the stuff is done loading  :)
[04:49] <Blake7984-> i plan to dual boot, but currently on ubuntu is installed
[04:49] <Blake7984-> ive laid out some empty ntfs partitions, but as i said...empty currently
[04:49] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: hmm...try sudo update-grub
[04:49] <Hobbsee> where's grub installed?
[04:49] <Blake7984-> i suspect that the problem is due to my fakeraid setup
[04:49] <jeroenvrp2> quick question (asked many times): how do I change katapults alt+space to somethinh else?
[04:49] <Blake7984-> /boot/grub
[04:50] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp2: er...in kcontrol, in the keyboard shortcuts?
[04:50] <Blake7984-> and ive done update-grub...no help...makes a new menu.lst file, but thats it
[04:50] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: no, as in, on the MBR or what?
[04:50] <Blake7984-> MBR yea
[04:50] <jeroenvrp2> Hobbsee: mmm I  watched there
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> jeroenvrp2: With the katapult window selcted, press Ctrl+C, then go to GLobal Shortcuts
[04:50] <Hobbsee> ah, that's it...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: hmmm...i'd probably install windows on it, and then reinstall grub - seeing as windows will wipe the MBR anyway
[04:51] <Hobbsee> !grub
[04:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:51] <james_xxx> can someone give me some help with easyubuntu?
[04:51] <Blake7984-> well, windows isnt even my issue right now....i just want ubuntu to boot properly
[04:51] <james_xxx> i tried to download the nightly snapshot...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> james_xxx: ask in #easyubuntu
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: hmmm...i wonder how it would have borked.  i've got no idea
[04:52] <james_xxx> ty hobbsee
[04:52] <Blake7984-> as i said, im suspecting that fakeraid is the issue
[04:53] <Blake7984-> though supposedly fakeraid should be setup and working properly (mirroring)....im wondering if perhaps its only writing to one of the hard drives, and perhaps the other hdd is the one containing an old menu.lst
[04:53] <[Relic] > couldn't find packagge mozilla
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> [Relic] : Are you running Dapper?
[04:53] <[Relic] > yep
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> !info mozilla
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:54] <ubotu> mozilla: (The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2:1.7.13-0ubuntu5.10 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[04:54] <jeroenvrp2> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> jeroenvrp2: You're welcome. :)
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> [Relic] : You'll have to enable uinverse/multiverse
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> !sources
[04:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[04:55] <[Relic] > that's what I was looking for before :)
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good :)
[04:56] <LinuxNewbie> uTorrent works :D
[04:56] <blowgurt> hello peeps
[04:57] <blowgurt> would this be the best place to get some help w/package fubarness?
[04:57] <[Relic] > did  use other left cllick or I wouuld  have enabled them, coulldn't figure out why they were grey  :))
[04:57] <blowgurt> for a newb?
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> blowgurt: I suppose so. :)
[04:58] <LinuxNewbie> How can I copy files from a C:\ which is a NTFS over to Linux ? I wanna move my Firefox Profile.
[04:58] <LinuxNewbie> I just do not wanna restart
[04:58] <Hobbsee> !+windowsdrives
[04:58] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:58] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: ^
[04:58] <blowgurt> cool, i've done about 1 hour of research on the web for my problem but to no avail.  i'm getting the dreaded locale error on dapper drake, which i was also getting on breezy badger
[04:59] <RobNyc> Anyone here has a intel i810 card
[04:59] <blowgurt> i've attempted to reinstall locales and localesconf but aptitude craps out unpacking some .debs
[04:59] <RobNyc> to be exact is the 82810E CGC DC-133 crappy card
[04:59] <blowgurt> Preconfiguring packages ...
[04:59] <blowgurt> (Reading database ... 86255 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:59] <blowgurt> Preparing to replace locales 2.3.6-10 (using .../locales_2.3.18_all.deb) ...
[04:59] <blowgurt> Unpacking replacement locales ...
[04:59] <blowgurt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb (--unpack):
[04:59] <blowgurt>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', which is also in package tzdata
[05:00] <blowgurt> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:00] <Hobbsee> !paste
[05:00] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:00] <blowgurt> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:00] <blowgurt>  /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb
[05:00] <blowgurt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:00] <blowgurt> sorry about that.
[05:00] <Hobbsee> bad blowgurt :P
[05:00] <blowgurt> am i not supposed to be smacked with a fish or something now? :P
[05:01] <james_xxx> *smacks blowgurt  with a big fish
[05:01] <blowgurt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15001
[05:01] <james_xxx> :-D
[05:02] <blowgurt> :)
[05:02] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:02] <RobNyc> !ati
[05:02] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[05:03] <blowgurt> how do i go about investigating a dpkg error?
[05:03] <Hobbsee> blow try sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb
[05:05] <blowgurt> thx Hobbsee!
[05:05] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: not a problem  - that worked?
[05:05] <blowgurt> it sure did!
[05:05] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[05:06] <blowgurt> is there a way for me to look at the aptitude log to see what started this mess?
[05:06] <blowgurt> i love that you were able to solve my issue so quickly but i'd like it even more if i could do it on my own and understand what caused it in the first place.
[05:06] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: hmmm....i thought the mess was already described in the pastebin.  are you using unofficial repos at all?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: ah okay
[05:07] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: it was this bit - it refused to overwrite a file, saying it was in another package
[05:07] <Hobbsee> [12:59]  <blowgurt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:07] <Hobbsee> [12:59]  <blowgurt> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', which is also in package tzdata
[05:07] <LinuxNewbie> Can I transfer files from my C:\ to Linux? I want my Firefox Profile here
[05:07] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: and dpkg has a force-overwrite command - you find it in dpkg -h
[05:07] <Hobbsee> !tell LinuxNewbie about mount
[05:08] <LinuxNewbie> I already mounted them
[05:08] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: so you're asking if it's possible, not how you do it?
[05:08] <blowgurt> LinuxNewbie: you should be able to just copy it.
[05:08] <blowgurt> cp <file from ntfs> <where you want it to go>
[05:08] <LinuxNewbie> Where is the Linux Firefox progile located
[05:09] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: with the force overwrite, you just use sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/deb/file/you/want/to/install
[05:09] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: ~/.mozilla
[05:10] <blowgurt> Hobbsee: i see now.  it makes perfect sense now that you've pulled it all together for me.  i had started to try to force it but was a bit timid.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:10] <Hobbsee> you shouldnt have to
[05:11] <blowgurt> my box is making the transition from fun workstation to moonlighting development box
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hehe fu!
[05:11] <LinuxNewbie> I need to reinstall all the extensions
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hehe fun!
[05:11] <blowgurt> lol!
[05:11] <LinuxNewbie> I also get a security error
[05:12] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: is that for the kubuntu wiki, by any chance?
[05:12] <blowgurt> LinuxNewbie: do you have the permissions to copy the file.  does the copied file have the appropriate permissions?
[05:12] <LinuxNewbie> I copied the file, and replaced it with my Profile one. I get the Alert when I open up Firefox.
[05:12] <sorush20> hi guys can't use amarok 1.4 with xine and alsa I keep getting this error message xine engine could not initialize audio driver
[05:13] <Hobbsee> sorush20: i think there's a bug on malone about this - check if they have a solution there
[05:13] <blowgurt> can firefox process access the file?
[05:13] <sorush20> where is that do you know?
[05:13] <crimsun> sorush20: and with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav'' ?
[05:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: when'd you sneak in?  :)
[05:14] <sorush20> crimsun: you are the best and the sexyest..
[05:14] <crimsun> (on a pony just a few seconds ago)
[05:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:14] <crimsun> agh! dangit
[05:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:15] <ubuntu> dumb question, but how do I start the install on kubuntu? I hit enter on start/install and it just loaded up as a live disc
[05:15] <sorush20> aplay what ?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> sorush20: a file.
[05:15] <sorush20> crimsun: please don't leave me in the sun
[05:15] <crimsun> sorush20: the command in quotes verbatim
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu: There should be an 'install' icon when you boot into the live disc, click on that.
[05:15] <noiesmo> ubuntu, ues arrow keys to highlight install desktop or install server from memory
[05:15] <sorush20> I did that but nothing happed
[05:15] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: er...is there an icon on the desktop to say "install' or something?
[05:16] <crimsun> sorush20: did it hang?
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hobbsee: Me neither. :P
[05:16] <ubuntu> thanks, but it didnt show up this time
[05:16] <sorush20>  aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav
[05:16] <sorush20> /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav: No such file or directory
[05:16] <crimsun> hmm
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: yeah, us old schoolers don't play much with new toys. :p
[05:16] <sorush20> crimsun: no it did not
[05:16] <Hobbsee> sorush20: use aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav
[05:17] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's case sensitive:P
[05:17] <crimsun> ah
[05:17] <sorush20> no it worked..
[05:17] <LinuxNewbie> That is fixed :D
[05:17] <blowgurt> cool!
[05:18] <crimsun> d'oh, it's in kcontrol
[05:18] <crimsun> sorush20: so sound's audible, correct?
[05:18] <sorush20> yes correct.. where is the page that talks about it and the bug/
[05:19] <henrique> hi, any can teach me how to install firefox
[05:19] <Hobbsee> henrique: sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:19] <sorush20> !firefox
[05:19] <mrfishhat> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:19] <henrique> i already tried
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell henrique about sources
[05:19] <Hobbsee> henrique: and got?
[05:19] <blowgurt> use to post the result http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:20] <mrfishhat> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:20] <henrique> it returns the packets are not here
[05:20] <henrique> or obsolete
[05:20] <mrfishhat> and mulitverse and universe are enabled?
[05:20] <RobNyc> http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/2006-January/msg01282.html
[05:21] <henrique> im newbie and dont know
[05:21] <Hobbsee> firefox is in main...it shouldnt be in uni or multiverse...
[05:23] <sorush20> crimsun: what do I do
[05:23] <LinuxNewbie> Where does Firefox keep the SearchPlugins ?
[05:24] <crimsun> sorush20: how do your symptoms compare with bug 34052?
[05:25] <sorush20> in the kubuntu bug directory or amarok or xine or alsa?
[05:26] <crimsun> sorush20: it's definitely not alsa if aplay works
[05:26] <crimsun> sorush20: are you running the latest kubuntu.org packages of kde and amarok?
[05:28] <sorush20> here is my source list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15003
[05:28] <sorush20> crimsun:
[05:28] <LinuxNewbie> How can i go intot he USR/LIB Directoy in Konsole ?
[05:29] <LinuxNewbie> nevermind
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> sorush20: have you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[05:29] <crimsun> sorush20: $work is having problems routing there; please use a different pastebin
[05:29] <Bilford> www.pastebin.com
[05:30] <LinuxNewbie> What is the Copy command ?
[05:30] <sorush20> http://pastebin.com/754895
[05:31] <sorush20> using what input device LinuxNewbie
[05:31] <sorush20> mouse or keyboard
[05:31] <LinuxNewbie> KOnsole
[05:31] <LinuxNewbie> I need to copy it in root.
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Not sure about keyboard...I just select what I want, right click, and press 'copy'
[05:32] <mrfishhat> ctrl-c works for me
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> is there any known issues page/info for the kde 3.5.3 packages so I can decide if I want to upgrade?
[05:33] <blowgurt> cp
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Whats up with Ktorrent??
[05:34] <linux_galore> hmm
[05:34] <LinuxNewbie> its CP
[05:34] <linux_galore> DaSkreech: nothing, theres a new version out too
[05:34] <DaSkreech> linux_galore: 1.2?
[05:35] <linux_galore> KTorrent: 2.0beta2
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Does it suck less?
[05:35] <linux_galore> way less has DHT support
[05:35] <LinuxNewbie> I use uTorrent :D
[05:35] <DaSkreech> How  do I get it?
[05:35] <linux_galore> DaSkreech: let me get the link
[05:35] <LinuxNewbie> I changed /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/searchplugins to my ones and they are still the default ones in Firefox.
[05:36] <linux_galore> http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/
[05:36] <Bilford> yours are in
[05:36] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: wrong directory
[05:36] <Bilford> a . directory in home
[05:37] <Bilford> go to Home and Show HIdden Files
[05:37] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: every user has his own firefox config directory in his home directory  ~/./mozilla/firefox/
[05:37] <Bilford> but the pre-installed  FF plugins have to be deleted where you were before
[05:38] <DaSkreech> no 6.10 deb?
[05:38] <Bilford> if you want to get rid of them
[05:38] <crimsun> sorush20: looks ok. Got a backtrace?
[05:38] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: just remove the ~/./mozilla/firefox/plugins   directory
[05:38] <LinuxNewbie> .../home/dh/.mozilla/
[05:38] <LinuxNewbie> You mean that
[05:39] <LinuxNewbie> That goes into my profile not search plufins
[05:39] <Bilford> ...
[05:39] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie:  ~/  is the same as /home/user_name/   its s shortcut
[05:39] <Bilford> it's in your profile
[05:39] <linux_galore> a*
[05:39] <Bilford> why do you stop
[05:40] <LinuxNewbie> Says not found
[05:41] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie:   cd ~/.mozilla/firefox  then do a ls
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls plugin* ~/.mozila/firefox/:
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls: plugin*: No such file or directory
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls: /home/logan1/.mozila/firefox/: No such file or directory
[05:42] <Bilford> Just look    in   the   folder
[05:42] <linux_galore> grr
[05:42] <Bilford> Look around
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls plugin* ~/.mozilla/firefox/:
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls: plugin*: No such file or directory
[05:42] <linux_galore> /home/logan1/.mozilla/firefox/:
[05:42] <linux_galore> il2epioq.default
[05:42] <linux_galore> pluginreg.dat
[05:42] <linux_galore> plugins
[05:42] <Bilford> its not hard
[05:42] <linux_galore> profiles.ini
[05:42] <linux_galore> rqnfbkfk.default
[05:43] <linux_galore> bugger didnt thing it would be that long
[05:43] <linux_galore> think*
[05:43] <LinuxNewbie> all I see are 3 stuff. my profile. pluginreg and profiles.ini
[05:44] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: then you havent installed any plugins your just using the defaults
[05:44] <LinuxNewbie> I am trying to copy mine from Windows
[05:44] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: wont work
[05:44] <Bilford> did you even look in that folder
[05:44] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: thats why there are windows and Linux versions
[05:45] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: lesson 1, Linux is not windows
[05:45] <Bilford> Add a Search Plugin the normal way first
[05:46] <LinuxNewbie> I guess I got to open and then copy the text file or somethign
[05:46] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: no the plugins wont "ever" work there Windows "only" you need the linux version
[05:47] <LinuxNewbie> they are just normal text ones
[05:47] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: windows is not cross platform, its very restrictive, welcome to the real world
[05:47] <LinuxNewbie> What about my COOKIES ?
[05:47] <LinuxNewbie> and Bookmarks ?
[05:47] <Bilford> Bookmarks can be exported
[05:48] <Bilford> easily
[05:48] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: bookmarks are in xml or markup there in the same class as webpages
[05:48] <LinuxNewbie> so I can copy them over ?
[05:48] <Bilford> you can export yoru bookmarks as a html file
[05:48] <word> is there an easy way to downgrade a package?
[05:48] <linux_galore> yes
[05:48] <Bilford> then import it
[05:48] <Bilford> why am I even talking
[05:48] <Bilford> this is too easy
[05:48] <LinuxNewbie> For you maybe
[05:49] <rubens_> seis toa ai
[05:49] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: go into the bookamrk editor and save the bookmarks, then boot up in Linux and copy the file across then open the bookmark editor and import the file
[05:49] <word> !downgrade
[05:49] <ubotu> downgrade is, like, totally, downgrading packages is not defined in the deb package management system.
[05:49] <LinuxNewbie> Bookmarks done :D
[05:50] <LinuxNewbie> cookies and my userchromee and userfrefs left
[05:50] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: firefox settings are saved in xml files so there portable
[05:52] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: dont confuse "settings" with "plugins" or "extensions" or even "themes"
[05:52] <LinuxNewbie> I got to move over the extensiosn afterwards.. ?
[05:52] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: just install them with the extensions tool some extensions have windows and Linux versions
[05:53] <LinuxNewbie> Problem isnt installing them problem is the settings for them
[05:54] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: there are firefox extensions for Linux that dont exists for windows and vice versa
[05:56] <LinuxNewbie> Most extensions settings are stored in the PFES.JS right ?
[06:05] <[Relic] > best java install?
[06:05] <robotgeek> !java
[06:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:05] <damian_> ??
[06:06] <treakath> how can I set up usb speakers under kubuntu (breezy)
[06:06] <damian_> [Relic] : wait one moment
[06:06] <treakath> ?
[06:08] <damian_> [Relic] :  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[06:08] <damian_> [Relic] : and echo 3 | sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:11] <mianiak> is the install really quick or did i just boot up in live
[06:12] <LinuxNewbie> Damn the SearchPLugins the default ones where in the OPT/Firefox folder as well. lol
[06:12] <LinuxNewbie> Hey CheesBurgerman
[06:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hey
[06:12] <LinuxNewbie> I am slowly configuring my Kubuntu :D i need to upgrade it thought.   I just downloaded it about 2 minutes ago
[06:19] <[Relic] > just multiverse or something else?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> -bin is in multiverse.  That's where mine came from
[06:20] <[Relic] > what is the repository line?
[06:20] <[Relic] > got every one I found enabled so far
[06:26] <kyle_> has anyone have trouble upgrading?
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> anyone awake??
[06:27] <kyle_> dont seem like it
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> know anything about openGL?
[06:28] <kyle_> no have not gotten into that
[06:28] <hastesaver> !easysource
[06:28] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:28] <CaBlGuY> ok, mine just isn't acting right..  I think I need to enable it or somethin...
[06:28] <hastesaver> [Relic] , what repo are you looking for?
[06:28] <hastesaver> !repos
[06:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[06:31] <pussfeller> why are my usb drives gone after the upgrade??
[06:31] <[Relic] > hastesaver,  wish I knew which one  :)
[06:32] <CaBlGuY> !nvidia glx
[06:32] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <hastesaver> [Relic] , so what do you want to install?
[06:32] <[Relic] > java
[06:32] <hastesaver> !java
[06:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:32] <pussfeller> !usb
[06:32] <ubotu> pussfeller: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <pussfeller> !hotplug
[06:32] <ubotu> pussfeller: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:33] <hastesaver> [Relic] , does that page answer your question? (It should! :)
[06:34] <pussfeller> i wonder if they work in gnome
[06:34] <[Relic] > it says it should be in some multiverse, but I got everything I can figure out how to multiverse and I don't see the sun-java pack
[06:35] <cius> cool, just changed over to kde for the first time
[06:35] <robotgeek> !adept
[06:35] <ubotu> adept is, like, a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:35] <robotgeek> [Relic] : look at that, it should tell you how to add extra repositories in adept
[06:35] <[Relic] > the failure to autsave explains it I bet
[06:35] <cius> is there a way to set the background on the clock transparent?
[06:36] <[Relic] > the complete failure to ask if you want to save changes before updating is annoying
[06:38] <IGD> i just switched to 1400X900 resolution, accept i now have what seems to be 4 screens of a lower resolution on my screen, anyone experiance this problem?
[06:38] <[Relic] > see there it is, even though he ain't paid can we fire the guy who didn't put the check for save when editing the repository list?
[06:38] <robotgeek> [Relic] : file a bug
[06:38] <[Relic] > :)
[06:41] <Bilford> why are my OpenGL screensavers jerky and low frame rate
[06:41] <Bilford> but in the Preview box, they run fine
[06:41] <mal_> tsup gent
[06:41] <mal_> s
[06:41] <Bilford> what
[06:42] <Bilford> type  tsup gents   ?
[06:42] <hastesaver> [Relic] , what's the problem exactly? If you click save, it saves.
[06:42] <mal_> how do I set up Konsole so that typing "x" = "/home/user/x"
[06:42] <IGD> besides in display settings is there another place i need to set my resolution to run widescreen?
[06:42] <CaBlGuY> anyone know if Geforce FX 5500 card required the glx-legacy drivers or not??
[06:44] <cius> CaB1GuY, I wouldn't think so, my FX 5900 didn't
[06:45] <hastesaver> [Relic] , have you got multiverse added yet?
[06:45] <[Relic] > hastesaver,  if you click fetch it don't save
[06:46] <[Relic] > or give any warning that it didn't, or as it should block fetch till you close or save
[06:46] <hastesaver> [Relic] , fetch? This is in some app? I thought you were editing the file by hand, sorry :)
[06:46] <[Relic] > adept  :)
[06:47] <[Relic] > like looking through a list of things to figure out what to install
[06:47] <LinuxNewbie> How can you open Firefox Profile Manager ?
[06:47] <[Relic] > open firefox and manage profiles?
[06:50] <[Relic] > seems to be stuck on preparing java
[06:50] <robotgeek> [Relic] : click on details and accept agreement
[06:51] <[Relic] > how?  can't seem to OK it
[06:51] <robotgeek> [Relic] : are you installing via terminal/adept?
[06:51] <[Relic] > adept
[06:52] <adamant1988> is it true that mark shuttleworth uses kubuntu over ubuntu? I read that in an article somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it =(
[06:54] <[Relic] > do I just kill it and install from terminal?
[06:55] <LinuxNewbie> What is the EXTENSION for Shells ?
[06:55] <hastesaver> [Relic] , is it currently frozen now? can't you just click stop, or close, or something?
[06:55] <Bilford> adamant1988, http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/05/taking_a_linuslike_attitude_to.html
[06:55] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, linux doesn't care about file extensions. You can name the file whatever you want
[06:56] <[Relic] > can't figure out how to click for ok
[06:56] <Bilford> "Those who like Gnome because they switched to Ubuntu should consider that Mark Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu as his personal desktop, as I understand!"
[06:56] <Bilford> that doesnt mean it's true though
[06:57] <Bilford> http://shahamit.blogspot.com/2005/11/ubuntu-founder-now-uses-kubuntu.html
[06:57] <Bilford> I guess it is true
[06:57] <ubuntu> jest ktos z polski ?:)
[06:57] <Bilford> and finally;  http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php
[06:58] <Bilford> " Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine"
[06:58] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[06:58] <hastesaver> !pl
[06:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:58] <plutosek> 0_o
[06:58] <plutosek> thx ;)
[06:59] <adamant1988> lol thank you bilford :)
[07:01] <Bilford> I think Linus Torvalds uses it too
[07:02] <adamant1988> seriously? I wouldn't picture torvalds using ubuntu or any of it's forks...
[07:03] <hastesaver> adamant1988, he uses KDE, I think (not kubuntu?)
[07:03] <adamant1988> But I'm not going to argue, you're more in the know.
[07:03] <Bilford> KDE for sure
[07:05] <adamant1988> yeah I would think he'd use KDE after his comments about gnome
[07:05] <adamant1988> I really like enlightenment myself...
[07:05] <adamant1988> I'm sure that when e17 is no longer beta ware I'll use it... it's an incredible experience.
[07:06] <Hawkwind> I just compiled it from CVS on Kubuntu about 30 minutes ago
[07:06] <adamant1988> isn't it amazing?
[07:06] <Hawkwind> Yep.  I've been using it for almost a year now so I've seen the evolution
[07:06] <adamant1988> I wish I was able to understand the mechanics of installing it
[07:07] <adamant1988> I'm lucky to be able to install a program from source, I'd break something trying to install a GUI
[07:07] <Hawkwind> Use one of the install scripts.  It does it all for you
[07:07] <[Relic] > all that work and java doesn't work with mozilla  :)
[07:07] <hastesaver> [Relic] , there's more on that page, to get Java working with your browser
[07:07] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: From my forum:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=520.0
[07:07] <Hawkwind> [Relic] : Strange.  It works for me as I just installed it
[07:07] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Took about an hour to do everything
[07:08] <adamant1988> Yeah, I'm new though hawkind, I haven't even found a distro to call home yet =(
[07:08] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: I've used Mandriva for 4+ years and just installed Kubuntu for the first time yesterday
[07:08] <Hawkwind> So the apt-get stuff is all pretty new to me basically
[07:09] <Hawkwind> I run one of the biggest 3rd party rpm repos for Mandriva.  Will soon have deb stuff on it if all goes well
[07:09] <adamant1988> yeah, I favor the from source installations... I'm a beta tester type and most of the programs I'll want to install won't be found in a repo.
[07:10] <adamant1988> installing drivers or other packages that are in the repos is fine by me, but a lot of what I want won't be there
[07:10] <Bilford> I think Torvalds is using FC5
[07:10] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Well if you need help with E17, let me know or join #E if I'm not around.  Those guys there are superb
[07:10] <adamant1988> I know they are, I go there some.
[07:10] <LinuxNewbie> how can I totally remove all the firefox stuff ?
[07:10] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, why?
[07:10] <adamant1988> I'm sure I want enlightenment, but I can't find my home distro, I really need some help sorting that out.
[07:11] <LinuxNewbie> I somehow f'ed up.
[07:11] <LinuxNewbie> it remembers my profile but i cannot change anythign on it
[07:11] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Try many and see what's best to you and what feels most comfortable
[07:11] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, you mean, you can't use your profile, although it exists?
[07:11] <adamant1988> Yeah, recently elive has made me feel more at home than anything, but it's not stable enough for me
[07:12] <adamant1988> I was using debian sarge for a while, ran elive and fell inlove with enlightenment.  I'm still distro shopping for something that suits my needs.
[07:13] <Hawkwind> I have really gotten to like Kubuntu over the past couple of days.  I seriously foresee myself changing my main distro from Mandriva to Kubuntu
[07:13] <adamant1988> I am hoping that kubuntu will supply me with a user friendly experience.
[07:13] <LinuxNewbie> I can use the profile, I just cannot edit it.
[07:13] <adamant1988> My main needs are just being able to play web games, install programs, and listen to my music.
[07:14] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, you see your bookmarks, but you can'
[07:14] <LinuxNewbie> Also how do you unmouth a HDD ?
[07:14] <hastesaver> linux_galore, but you can't add new bookmarks?
[07:14] <LinuxNewbie> I can see the bookmarks and the extensions which I copied from my C:\ NTFS drive but its f'ed now.
[07:14] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, was this profile ever working on Linux in the first place?
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> not really
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> I just started to use Kubuntu
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> at the begining it didnt even work probbaly i messed around with it
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> Now when I click Firefox instead ofthe fox logo it has a X
[07:16] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, if you just copied it over from your windows partition, the profile probably has hardcoded links to the windows directory. And it doesn't let you edit the files mounted on the ntfs system
[07:16] <LinuxNewbie> I should of just copied over the bookmarks, cookies, prefs and userchrome
[07:17] <adamant1988> hawk if you don't mind I'll probably sign up on your forums :)
[07:17] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: I don't mind at all.  Feel free :)
[07:17] <adamant1988> I'm going to lay down now... it's 1 am... g'night all.
[07:17] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Another good set of new forums that are growing, http://tuxforums.org
[07:17] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Night, sleep well
[07:18] <_ole> G'day all, from Queensland Australia, I need help, boy do I need help, so HELP!
[07:18] <Hawkwind> _ole: Just ask your question
[07:19] <Hawkwind> We are far from mind readers, though I do have espN
[07:19] <Bilford> Im a mind reader
[07:19] <Bilford> he wants to know why his screen resolution cant change
[07:20] <_ole> yes, sorry, I have been using Ubuntu for about 9 mths, installed Kubuntu separately, all working well, but now I would like to upgrade to Dapper Drake
[07:20] <[Relic] > maybe I just need to install the other java package
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Bilford: Close :P
[07:20] <_ole> but I don't understand the explanations on how t o do so
[07:20] <Bilford> :/
[07:20] <jeffry> Hi
[07:21] <Bilford> tj9991, how's that storage problem coming, Champ
[07:21] <jeffry> Can somebody tell me where to download the last version of the automatix?
[07:21] <_ole> so, how do I upgrade from Hoary Hedgehog to Kubuntu Dapper Drake?
[07:21] <LinuxNewbie> How do you umount a HDD ?
[07:21] <jeffry> for the last release of kubuntu?
[07:21] <cius> I just got the xserver-xorg-dev package through Adept but I have a configure script still telling me it can't find them, do I need to edit a path to include /usr/include/xorg?
[07:21] <Hawkwind> LinuxNewbie: mount /dev/hdx /some/mount/point
[07:21] <LinuxNewbie> I said unmount
[07:21] <Hawkwind> LinuxNewbie: Replace hdx with something like hda1 or whatever.  And make sure that /some/mount/point is an actual directory
[07:22] <Hawkwind> LinuxNewbie: Ohhhh, umount /some/mount/point
[07:23] <LinuxNewbie> I can right click and do it. lol
[07:23] <Bilford> _ole, can you do a fresh install instead
[07:23] <LinuxNewbie> Now to fix my Firefox problem.
[07:24] <dr_willis> Egads - dont use AUtomatix. :) please
[07:24] <_ole> hi Bilford, don't know, what will happen to my data in that case?
[07:24] <Bilford> youd lose it
[07:24] <Hawkwind> _ole: Is your /home on a seperate partition ?
[07:24] <Hawkwind> _ole: If it is, you can save that info and then format everything else
[07:25] <_ole> 1 Linux partition
[07:25] <Hawkwind> _ole: That way you don't lose your app config settings, or you won't lose most of them
[07:25] <Hawkwind> _ole: Then you'll lose your info as Bilford stated :/
[07:25] <Hawkwind> Learn to partition a drive and use put /home and / on seperate partitions
[07:26] <dr_willis> or seperate hard drives. :P
[07:26] <_ole> so if I carefully made sure I had backup of everygthing and then installed the new version from scratch, is that what you are suggesting?
[07:26] <Hawkwind> dr_willis: Yeah, that works too :)
[07:26] <Hawkwind> _ole: You could do that, as long as you don't format the backups
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Heh
[07:26] <Hawkwind> _ole: Then you can copy over stuff you need
[07:28] <Bilford> should he upgrade from Hoary to Dapper?
[07:28] <_ole> so, you suggest that I reformat the Linux partition and install Dapper from scratch (after I have burned my data to CD)
[07:28] <dr_willis> i advice a clean reinstall.
[07:28] <dr_willis> advise even
[07:28] <dr_willis> :P
[07:28] <Hawkwind> _ole: Yes
[07:29] <Hawkwind> I'm totally new to Ubuntu, but have used Mandriva for 4+ years and that's what we always suggest is to do a fresh install.  It's just cleaner and smoother that way
[07:29] <_ole> ok, is this because I never upgraded from Hoary to Breezy?
[07:30] <Bilford> even from Breezy to Dapper, fresh install is always best
[07:30] <Bilford> imo
[07:31] <[Relic] > now Ithink I am down to mass file transfers from drive to drive  :)
[07:31] <_ole> what? so every 6 mths new version, reinstall everything? Oh, not convenient
[07:31] <Bilford> no, you can upgrade
[07:31] <[Relic] > more convenient than running windows and reinstalling the same version every month  :)
[07:32] <_ole> yeah, but you just suggested that it was best to reinstall
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> root@DESKTOP:/opt/firefox# firefox /profilemanager
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> You should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Anyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Sounds like a nice friend. lol
[07:32] <cius> where would activate focus follows mouse or sloppy focus?
[07:32] <_ole> so true, who wants Windoze anyway?
[07:32] <Bilford> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186058&highlight=upgrade+hoary+dapper
[07:32] <Bilford> "If you go from Hoary to Dapper via dist-upgrade, you will end up with a broken system. Do a clean install (from the disk.)
[07:33] <Bilford> So, it looks like youd have to first upgrade to Breezy, then upgrade again to Dapper
[07:33] <vinboy> Bilford: is it possible to get a list of currenly installed packages and install them back after the clean install?
[07:33] <Bilford> idk
[07:34] <_ole> ok, thanks all, be seeing you around
[07:34] <[Relic] > cp -r * /puteverythinghere   ?  will that get everything in the subdirs?
[07:35] <[Relic] > need to make sure it copys everything including subdir/subdir
[07:36] <Bilford> vinboy, you can run Adept, and only have it show installed packages.  I dont know if thats what you mean though
[07:36] <LinuxNewbie> I think that was a good mess around :D I am going to format the partition and install new Kubuntu
[07:36] <Bilford> theres probably a console command that prints out a list
[07:36] <_ole> quit
[07:37] <hastesaver> [Relic] , it will, but it won't go into the hidden files/directories (starting with a .)
[07:37] <hastesaver> [Relic] , better to do "cp -R directory1 /path/to/direcotory2" from a level up
[07:38] <vinboy> Bilford: thanks
[07:40] <[Relic] > do I want -a?
[07:40] <[Relic] > xfering my old home/relic to my new home/relic
[07:41] <hastesaver> [Relic] , I've never used -a, but it looks nice. Try it :)
[07:43] <[Relic] > probably be able to take a nap now while this xfers :)
[07:44] <Steven_M> does the final dapper have a text installer as well as a gui one?
[07:44] <hastesaver> Steven_M, different CDs.
[07:44] <Steven_M> oh ok
[07:45] <Steven_M> thanks
[07:45] <[Relic] > or maybe start it again and figure out why it didn't go in the correct place first
[07:51] <cius> is it possible to rearrange the order of the items on the panel?
[07:52] <Lynoure> cius: sure it is
[07:53] <Lynoure> cius: right-click, choose Move and move.
[07:53] <cius> when i right click the app icons and the kmenu and such I get an option to move, but not when I right click the trash bin or clock
[07:54] <Lynoure> cius:oh, those are a different thing
[07:54] <Lynoure> cius: iirc, you can delete the clokc and make a new one elsewhere
[07:55] <Lynoure> not sure about trashbin
[07:55] <cius> would it be the same with the other things, pager, trash, systray?
[07:55] <cius> oh ok
[07:55] <Lynoure> systray moves normally, once you find the right place to click on
[07:56] <Lynoure> hmm, actually, clock and trash, too
[07:56] <Lynoure> im for the tiny arrow
[07:56] <cius> :-) so I'm just not clicking in the right place
[07:56] <Lynoure> s/im/aim
[07:57] <Lynoure> but I have to get away from the computer for a bit, back in 15min or so
[07:57] <cius> thank
[07:57] <cius> thanks* for the help
[08:10] <lasindi> Is anyone else still having the problem where if you try to configure Samba sharing in "Administrator mode," all the buttons are grayed out?
[08:16] <PPower> kdesu kcontrol
[08:17] <lasindi> PPower: what does that do?
[08:17] <lasindi> Just run it as root?
[08:18] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you installing Kubuntu
[08:18] <PPower> lasindi: it runs kcontrol as root. I find the admin mode buttons sometimes break
[08:20] <lasindi> PPower: this bug has been in there since at least Breezy; are developers aware of this bug?
[08:22] <Bilford> do this
[08:22] <Bilford> go to System SEttings
[08:22] <Bilford> or wherever the menu editor is
[08:22] <Bilford> and add  Settings
[08:23] <Bilford> you get the whole KControl right there in the STart Menu
[08:25] <lasindi> Okay, I'll try that soon when I get my Kubuntu machine up
[08:41] <osh_> So, standard upgrade procedure works? Replace breezy with dapper in sources.list and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:42] <hastesaver> !upgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[08:42] <hastesaver> osh_, in short, yes
[08:42] <hastesaver> osh_, but take care about your extra (non-official) repos
[08:44] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you installing Kubuntu
[08:44] <osh_> hastesaver: Thanks. Hopefulle nogign big will break. ;-)
[08:47] <Bilford> do most people use Icon view?
[08:47] <Bilford> or Treeview
[08:47] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:48] <hastesaver> Bilford, I use ls :)
[08:48] <Bilford> you dont like graphical user interfaces?
[08:50] <cfraz89> hi
[08:51] <PPower> cfraz89: hi again. its working like a breeze now
[08:51] <cfraz89> hi PPower, cool!
[08:51] <cfraz89> what was wrong?
[08:52] <PPower> cfraz89: it turned out the nvidia run and the ubuntu script changed the pciid as well as the driver. setting it manually fixed it.
[08:52] <cfraz89> oh ok
[08:52] <cfraz89> thats interesting
[08:52] <cfraz89> did you work out where that radeon config came from?
[08:53] <PPower> its a known problem. i made a bug report and put a howto up on ubuntu forums. one person said it was helpful. no idea how radeon came about
[08:53] <cfraz89> lol ok
[08:53] <cfraz89> can i see the howto?
[08:53] <PPower> www.ubuntuforums.org. its in the howto section
[08:54] <cfraz89> thanks
[08:54] <cfraz89> glad its fixed
[08:54] <PPower> (i actually sent a bug report to nvidia. oops)
[08:55] <cfraz89> lol, it was ubuntu problem though?
[08:56] <PPower> yeah. i dont know why the nvidia one went bad though
[08:56] <cfraz89> hmm
[08:57] <cfraz89> did you see the post by tseliot?
[08:57] <PPower> yeah
[08:57] <PPower> doesnt the run installer use that
[08:57] <cfraz89> i think so
[08:57] <cfraz89> i dont know why ubuntu bundles its own tool
[08:57] <hastesaver> Bilford, I'm more comfortable with the cli, that's all. It's the only thing that's consistent across fvwm, gnome, kde and ratpoison :)
[08:58] <PPower> cfraz89: to help n00bs. hopefully my bug report on launchpad will fix it
[08:58] <cfraz89> yeah
[08:59] <cfraz89> PPower: nvidia-settings conflicts with nvidia-glx because the nvidia-settings package is for the legacy drivers
[08:59] <cfraz89> it is bundled with the new ones
[08:59] <PPower> what i really like about linux is that you can install millions of packages and only use a couple of hundred mb of space
[08:59] <cfraz89> yeah
[08:59] <PPower> cfraz89: right you are. found it in /usr/bin
[09:00] <cfraz89> cool
[09:01] <cfraz89> its usefule
[09:02] <PPower> whoops just compiled a windows app instead of a linux one
[09:02] <cfraz89> lol
[09:02] <PPower> or is supertux-sharp windows only?
[09:03] <cfraz89> supertux-sharp?
[09:03] <cfraz89> what is sharp for?
[09:03] <PPower> this new editor for supertux. written in mono csharp
[09:03] <cfraz89> cool
[09:04] <cfraz89> how is supertux coming along?
[09:04] <cfraz89> i liked 0.1.2
[09:04] <cfraz89> and i cant wait until you can bellyslide and hover
[09:04] <cfraz89> the sketches are so cute
[09:04] <PPower> pretty good actually. world 2 is pretty much broken but world one is now 50x better
[09:04] <PPower> and they got rid of the editor
[09:04] <cfraz89> cool
[09:05] <cfraz89> ill check it out
[09:05] <cfraz89> my friends are addicted to it too
[09:07] <PPower> the music is better now
[09:07] <cfraz89> cool
[09:10] <cfraz89> PPower: what version is that?
[09:10] <PPower> 0.2-svn
[09:10] <cfraz89> ah ok
[09:10] <hastesaver> the music was already awesome, I thought
[09:10] <cfraz89> lol yeah i liked it
[09:10] <PPower> yeah. they made it better. along with the graphics
[09:11] <hastesaver> When will a new version of Supertux hit the repos? I just finished playing it yesterday :)
[09:11] <PPower> could be a long time. world 2 is mostly broken and so is the movie
[09:12] <PPower> there are a few playable levels in world 2 but dont try nolocks castle
[09:13] <cfraz89> does it crash?
[09:14] <PPower> no. does throw out a lot of errors but no crash.
[09:14] <PPower> it was complaining about the squirrel vm in the movie
[09:14] <cfraz89> oh
[09:15] <PPower> you should get a svn build (opengl needed)
[09:15] <cfraz89> i will
[09:16] <PPower> NOO! i broke it. i am stuck in a little hole that you cant get out
[09:32] <_tom> ok so
[09:32] <ubuntu> hi gyus
[09:33] <nico8481> re
[09:33] <ubuntu> i can't access my hard-drive .. can anyone help?
[09:33] <ubuntu> i am in live kubuntu
[09:33] <vinboy> anyone insteall Steam using Wine?
[09:33] <ubuntu> "return code from mount was 32" .. mount failure
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, what did you use to mount the hdds?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> vinboy, i did, but ages ago
[09:33] <vinboy> nice nickname
[09:34] <vinboy> ok Kamping_Kaiser , i think this is problem with the new wine :D
[09:34] <ubuntu> Kamping .. they are just ext2 .. created a few months ago with a xubuntu install
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, should be able to 'mount /dev/hdx /mnt/'
[09:34] <ubuntu> they worked fine until I turned it off one too many times without shutting down correctly
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> fsk
[09:35] <_tom> kubuntu is stupid
[09:35] <_tom> 'update adept to dapper'
[09:35] <_tom> ok i replaced breezy with dapper in adept, all over the distribution
[09:35] <_tom> there are no no instances of breezy
[09:35] <_tom> and yet it still says no updates after i fetch updates
[09:36] <_tom> no upgrades*
[09:36] <ubuntu> hey .. c'mon guys ... i was previously used to used 'toram' installs :(
[09:36] <_tom> it seems to ''forgot'
[09:36] <ubuntu> EXT2-fs: sda1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[09:37] <uwo> does anyone know any ftp server with QT GUI?
[09:37] <ubuntu> Kamping .. the standard mount command does not work
[09:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, sounds like you need to fsk your drive
[09:38] <ubuntu> Kamping .. do you think there is any chance i can get off some data?
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, probably.. after you do a file system check
[09:39] <ubuntu> oh .. is that fsk .. let me google it
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, open a a terminal and type "man fsck"
[09:43] <ubuntu> Kamping .. thanks ..err so many options .. care to share the short-cut command?
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, if yuour *sure* its  ext2 type 'fsck.ext2 /dev/xxx'
[09:49] <ubuntu> ok here goes
[09:50] <ubuntu> in fact how can i check the filesystem type?
[09:52] <ubuntu> no i am sure it is ext2
[09:52] <ubuntu> here goes
[09:52] <PPower> i think i found a security flaw in SAMBA or is this by design: i can access the C$ share
[09:52] <aseigo> ubuntu: df -T
[09:52] <UzzaDead> evening all, might someone know off the top of their head the command to list pcmcia cards in my system currently?
[09:54] <crazy_penguin> goo day to all!
[09:55] <ubuntu> Kamping_Kaiser ... hey thanks .. that was easy .. took about 0.0002 seconds and all is good !?
[09:55] <cfraz89> PPower: i think it depends how network is set up
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, try mounting it again
[09:55] <PPower> cfraz89: it require authentication but i can get in! this is a huge security flaw!
[09:56] <ubuntu> Kamping .. yes all is fine. thank you :)
[09:56] <PPower> im going to report this to microsoft
[09:56] <cfraz89> lol
[09:56] <cfraz89> PPower: there must be something wrong with network setup
[09:56] <vinboy> no
[09:56] <vinboy> let the microsoft bugs get out
[09:56] <cfraz89> i dont think samba is the hackmaster
[09:56] <vinboy> lets the corporate lose money
[09:56] <vinboy> and they will switch to linux
[09:57] <cfraz89> lol
[09:57] <cfraz89> ok
[09:57] <vinboy> tat is the way
[09:57] <PPower> cfraz89: C$ is a internal share that is used for NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM to access the hard drive. its the way windows works.
[09:57] <vinboy> ppl wouldn't change if there is nothing wrong with it
[09:57] <cfraz89> ah ok
[09:57] <cfraz89> thats cool
[09:57] <vinboy> corporate will learn their lesson when they lose 10 millions bcoz of microsoft
[09:57] <cfraz89> yeah
[09:58] <vinboy> hit them hard in their nuts
[09:58] <PPower> it requires a administrator user and pass but for any average hacker thats just a walkin the park
[10:03] <PPower> cfraz89: got around to compiling supertux yet?
[10:06] <word> how do you downgrade a package?
[10:11] <PPower> word: i dont know how you do it in adept. you can in synaptic
[10:11] <word> PPower: Argh..I think the newest nvidia-glx package is creating problems for me..
[10:12] <PPower> word: you are not alone. i had a large ammount of trouble. whats the bug
[10:12] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you installing Kubuntu
[10:12] <word> when I have a window full screen the kde panel goes fuzzy...its wierd...from further investigation I
[10:13] <word> I've noticed that when in opera and the background is anything other than white the kde panel is fine.
[10:13] <PPower> word: check the X log.
[10:13] <word> PPower: what's the path to that agian?
[10:13] <PPower> use KSystemLog
[10:15] <brosio> anyone have try xgl ?
[10:16] <brosio> they fix the proplems with systray on kdelibs?
[10:16] <Bilford> I tried but gave up
[10:16] <PPower> word: do you see any warnings or errors (WW or EE)
[10:16] <word> PPower: There was nothing in the x log but whenever I open an app in terminal i get this error - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974
[10:17] <PPower> word: are you running that app as root?
[10:17] <word> it happens no matter how i run it
[10:17] <word> Hmm..when i did that i got this error in the X log -information	AUDIT: Sat Jun  3 01:16:02 2006: 4720 X: client 36 rejected from local host
[10:18] <PPower> cfraz89: what do you think of words problem
[10:18] <PPower> cfraz89 is good at this stuff
[10:19] <word> Cool o.O
[10:21] <PPower> hmm. he doesnt seem to be replying.
[10:21] <PPower> word: do you get this with the nv driver
[10:22] <cfraz89> what is question?
[10:22] <cfraz89> sorry
[10:22] <cfraz89> was busy
[10:22] <evert> hello , i've got a simple question
[10:22] <cfraz89> hi
[10:22] <PPower> word is having trouble with the nvidia-glx drivers. its causing the panel to go fuzzy
[10:22] <evert> how can i upgrade from dapper beta to dapper final ?
[10:23] <PPower> evert: apt-get update. apt-get dist-upgrade as root
[10:23] <evert> ok thx
[10:23] <PPower> word: could you tell your problem to cfraz89?
[10:23] <evert> can i expect problems with it ?
[10:23] <PPower> evert: 50:50
[10:23] <evert> what kind of problems ?
[10:24] <word> cfraz89: After upgrading my nvidia-glx package along with a couple others my panel goes 'fuzzy' whenever I full screen an app...what's wierd is in Opera it doesn't happne when the background is anything other than white.
[10:24] <PPower> evert: when upgrading from breezy to dapper there has been issues of files not downloading
[10:25] <cfraz89> hmm
[10:25] <evert> i'm upgrading , i hope it goes all right :)
[10:25] <PPower> evert: once you have done that you should upgrade to kde 3.5.3. instructions on kubuntu.org
[10:25] <Bilford> You shouldnt get problems going from  Dapper Beta to Dapper final
[10:25] <cfraz89> word: what display depth are you using?
[10:26] <cfraz89> by fullscreen, do you mean right click on border->Advanced->fullscreen?
[10:26] <Bilford> what problems do you get going from  Dapper Beta to Dapper final?
[10:26] <word> cfraz89: From the log file apparently i'm running at 24..and by full screen I mean maximized
[10:27] <cfraz89> oh
[10:28] <word> cfraz89: I also get this error whenever I run an app in terminal i'm not sure if it's a related problem - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974
[10:29] <cfraz89> hmm i get that if i run as different user
[10:29] <cfraz89> try deleting the .Xauthority file in your home
[10:29] <cfraz89> and logging in again
[10:29] <cfraz89> might have to restart x
[10:32] <PPower> cfraz89: will that fix my problems of the root user throwing up errors when trying to run a X app as root (e.g. the debconf gui in adept)
[10:33] <cfraz89> PPower: you need to use kdesu if you run x apps as root
[10:33] <cfraz89> kdesu <command>
[10:33] <PPower> cfraz89: i mean in adept when it tries to run a gui debconf it says could not get access to a display
[10:35] <cfraz89> oh i dont think that will help
[10:35] <cfraz89> theres not much you can do about that i think
[10:38] <word> cfraz89: hmm...now it only appears to happen when i open it with sudo...
[10:38] <cfraz89> PPower and word: you could try exporting DISPLAY
[10:38] <cfraz89> export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[10:38] <cfraz89> in your .bash_profile
[10:38] <cfraz89> maybe for root as well
[10:39] <cfraz89> word: try deleting the file for root as well
[10:39] <cfraz89> word: try running xhost +localhost
[10:39] <cfraz89> sorry not clear
[10:39] <cfraz89> word: try running 'xhost +localhost'
[10:41] <PPower> evert: how are you coming along?
[10:41] <cfraz89> word, also try deleting yours and root's  .ICEauthority file
[10:41] <word> cfraz89: All of these at once? or should i restart x between them?
[10:42] <cfraz89> dont restart x between them
[10:42] <cfraz89> just after all that
[10:42] <word> cfraz89: ok
[10:42] <cfraz89> and theres one more thing that might work
[10:42] <cfraz89> but we'll try that if this doesnt work
[10:44] <word> so export DISPLAY=":0.0" is the command i should run?
[10:45] <cfraz89> actually dont worry about that
[10:45] <cfraz89> i dont think it will help
[10:45] <cfraz89> sorry
[10:45] <word> lol ok
[10:45] <cfraz89> just the .ICEauthority
[10:46] <word> ok brb
[10:48] <word> cfraz89: nope both errors still not fixed :(
[10:50] <cfraz89> HMM OK
[10:50] <cfraz89> whoops sorry caps
[10:50] <cfraz89> man i suck
[10:50] <cfraz89> i really dont know about the maximized thingy
[10:50] <cfraz89> but one last thing about the console?
[10:50] <cfraz89> edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[10:50] <cfraz89> and search for a line SERVERARGS
[10:51] <cfraz89> it should say ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp
[10:51] <cfraz89> comment it out and add a new line that is just:
[10:51] <cfraz89> ServerArgsLocal=
[10:52] <word> ok done and restart x?
[10:53] <cfraz89> ok
[10:53] <cfraz89> hope it works
[10:54] <cfraz89> any luck?
[10:54] <word> nope :(
[10:55] <cfraz89> oh sorry
[10:55] <cfraz89> im out of options then
[10:55] <word> how can i downgrade nvidia-glx?
[10:55] <word> cfraz89: I think that might solve my visual problem
[10:56] <cfraz89> hmm downgrade
[10:56] <cfraz89> i think you will have to get it off nvidia website
[10:56] <cfraz89> and use the installer
[10:57] <berkes> good morning folks. Anyone here using spellcheckers often?
[10:58] <PPower> word: remenber to reinstall the driver after a kernel upgrade
[10:58] <cfraz89> good luck word
[10:59] <word> PPower: I already tried reinstalling.....they have linux drivers on their website?
[10:59] <berkes> I want only three languages, UK english, German and default: Dutch. However, English itself comes with like 60 entries.
[10:59] <PPower> word: yes they do. but they dont have a kernel module so you will need to compile one yourself. setup will do that
[10:59] <berkes> is there some configuration wrong? Because only a few of these 60 entries actually work
[11:01] <berkes> there are a lot of "unknown" entries in the languages too, but most of them are in the form of "English (variant_1)"
[11:03] <word> PPower: So I just run it in recovery console? it says it won't run because other parts of it is running or something..
[11:03] <PPower> word: see pm
[11:05] <deviant> Does anyone know how to get into KDMtheme manager in Kubuntu Dapper?
[11:05] <deviant> I can't seem to find it anywhere.
[11:06] <PPower> deviant: www.kde-apps.org
[11:07] <PPower> deviant: kde improvenet
[11:07] <berkes> deviant: there is a kdm config thing under "system settings" in the konfig thingy
[11:09] <deviant> berkes thanks
[11:10] <bahbahbah> what's the diff between "alternate" and "desktop"-kubuntu?
[11:10] <cfraz89> desktop is the livecd
[11:10] <cfraz89> and alternate is just text installer
[11:10] <cfraz89> but desktop also has installer
[11:10] <cfraz89> with gui
[11:11] <deviant> Can't seem to find Konfig<sp> anywhere in System Settings o.O
[11:11] <bahbahbah> cfraz89: thanks. does the gui-installer have the same features as the text one? raid/lvm stuff?
[11:11] <cfraz89> bahbahbah: afaik everything except reiserfs support
[11:12] <bahbahbah> cfraz89: thanks a lot. desktop it is then. :-)
[11:13] <MidMark> guys, why at every reboot I have to disable and re-enable my network in order to have an ip from dhcp?
[11:13] <meister> moin
[11:13] <cfraz89> np
[11:14] <berkes> deviant: are you using the kubuntu settings app, or the default KDE kconfig?
[11:15] <deviant> I'm using what's in the kicker panel.
[11:15] <berkes> how does it look, deviant?
[11:15] <deviant> Looked under kcontrol as well and couldn't find it there either.
[11:15] <david_> MidMark: do u have a standalone pc with a router?
[11:15] <deviant> Everything is in 4 rows.
[11:16] <berkes> deviant: I am using the Dutch locales, so my terminology is different.
[11:16] <berkes> deviant: okay, that is the kubuntu one. In the bottom row, at the left?
[11:16] <berkes> the most left one.
[11:16] <MidMark> david_: exactly
[11:16] <david_> so from bootup and turning the router on what happens
[11:17] <deviant> Date and Time is at the very bottom on the left.
[11:18] <berkes> ah, then you might not have the component :(
[11:18] <deviant> Berk can you accept DCC sends? I'll send you a snapshot of what I'm looking at.
[11:18] <berkes> deviant: did you look in adept if you can install it?
[11:18] <deviant> I used apt-get to install kcontrol-kdmtheme
[11:18] <nico8481> when adept shows the list of updates it found, how can you see on what repository it found each of them?
[11:18] <berkes> deviant: not sure if my firewall lets it through , just try
[11:18] <MidMark> david_: the router is just on and has dhcp enabled, but it seems to not release an ip for my pc
[11:19] <MidMark> david_: if I disable and enable the network again it can retrieve an ip, then all works
[11:19] <deviant> Sent it.
[11:19] <david_> look in the logs using ksystemlog and see what happens
[11:20] <MidMark> ok I'm seeing
[11:20] <MidMark> 03/06/2006 11:09:53	localhost	kernel	[4294678.419000]  eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01462:7100 bound to 0000:00:0a.0
[11:20] <MidMark> 03/06/2006 11:09:53	localhost	kernel	[4294698.156000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[11:21] <MidMark> probably I have to disable ipv6?
[11:21] <david_> if the pc is left idle for ages, it may be that your isp doing it and yes ipv6 disable for the time being
[11:23] <MidMark> david_: pc is turned on @ 11:09 what do you mean?
[11:23] <david_> is the router left on
[11:24] <MidMark> david_: yes
[11:25] <david_> well if your router is like mine it does the dhcp stuff all linux does is ask for a lease, which means even though the pc is off u still have a dsl connection
[11:26] <MidMark> yes exaclty internet connection is always on, but dhcp is indipendent in my opinion or not?
[11:27] <berkes> hmm, looking at the aspell english deb files, there are a LOT of obsolete dictionaries installed by default.,,
[11:27] <david_> the isp may not renew the lease, just guessing, if you turn the router off at night the problem will probably not occur
[11:27] <berkes> guess, remobing them by hand is the only option.
[11:28] <berkes> s/removing
[11:29] <david_> check 'ps ax' for dhclient3, if there is a process with that name, then ur setup is like mine and a call to the isp might confirm they don't want hours of idle dsl