[12:00] <maxkelley> so when you type /home/whoever/gaim it will execute /usr/bin/gaim
[12:00] <rupan3> 10 to 30 dollars a month for 5kb of bandwidth? makes you wonder how people ever put up with it
[12:00] <maxkelley> very simple, yees?
[12:00] <CyCloBot> how
[12:00] <CyCloBot> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop but when it detects hardware it freezes at 86% were it loads module "ide-cd" for "Linux ATAPI CD-ROM". any help?
[12:00] <SoulForge> I know it works on windows
[12:00] <Q_Continuum> FlannelKing, http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/563/
[12:00] <iBalo> flaxi: first enable universe and multiverse repos, then sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts, then adjust fonts in firefox
[12:00] <rupan3> CyCloBot: i had teh same problem
[12:00] <cedriczg> I think II didn't explained my problem in a right way
[12:00] <SoulForge> but you can hold control and scroll the mouse wheel to decrease or increase text size
[12:00] <cedriczg> I wan't to make an icon
[12:00] <Q_Continuum> FlannelKing, serach for and find the section titled "Editor's addendum: Console Clients"
[12:00] <SoulForge> pointed to flaxi
[12:00] <cedriczg> a launcher
[12:00] <maxkelley> CyCloBot: at the boot: prompt, press f1 and look for something for it to bypass ide-detection
[12:00] <Mrono> why am I getting these errors? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9466
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: mmmm
[12:01] <CyCloBot> rupan3: did u solve it
[12:01] <flaxi> iBalo, thank you!!!! one more question, when I enable multiverse repos, I can then be able to find firefox 1.5?
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: right click and click "Create launcher"
[12:01] <cedriczg> You undestand?
[12:01] <iBalo> !ff1.5
[12:01] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[12:01] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:01] <rupan3> CyCloBot: eyah i got it installed.. try this..:
[12:01] <cedriczg> yes I know the how
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: you are using gnome, right?
[12:01] <cedriczg> I don't know why it doesn't work
[12:01] <maxkelley> well what's the problem then?
[12:01] <rupan3> CyCloBot: turn on all the debugging.. its on one of the pages, two settings
[12:01] <flaxi> Soulforge, yeah, thank you, but then the text becomes too small... but thank you for the tip
[12:01] <cedriczg> Yes ubuntu 5.10
[12:01] <FlannelKing> thanks Q_Continuum I'll take a look
[12:01] <rupan3> CyCloBot: then run your install in expert mode
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: I don't understand the problem..
[12:02] <Q_Continuum> Google = your friend :D
[12:02] <rupan3> CyCloBot: and disable the last 5 or so options, and it will detect your cdrom drive as a floppy
[12:02] <cedriczg> if the launcher is set to be runn in a terminal it works
[12:02] <maxkelley> it has almost a googol of answers!!
[12:02] <rupan3> CyCloBot: at least, that's what it did for me
[12:02] <jms830> I have been trying to set up hotkeys for Xmms using xbindkeys. I entered xbindkeys-config and added my hotkeys, and they work except that it opens a new instance of xmms if i opened the original instance from within nautilus by clicking an mp3
[12:02] <cedriczg> but if it is not set to be lauched in a terminal it doesn't work
[12:02] <jms830> anyone know how to fix this??
[12:02] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  he wants a desktop launcher for gaim
[12:02] <maxkelley> cedriczg: what is the app?
[12:02] <cedriczg> however matlab doesn't use the terminal!!
[12:02] <IdleOne> or whatever app it is
[12:03] <cedriczg> matlab7
[12:03] <xcc>  2pt fonts in many applications scared me %(
[12:03] <scottj> how do I reset my gnome theme? the one I installed is crashing panel
[12:03] <maxkelley> cedriczg: is matlab in your applications menu?
[12:03] <scottj> there must be a way from the console
[12:03] <liskl_> hello: i'm looking for a way to display changing text data on the X Display transparently
[12:03] <cedriczg> I had to make the icon there too
[12:03] <maxkelley> liskl_: google, I know there's an app for it..
[12:03] <cedriczg> but I have the same problem
[12:03] <maxkelley> hmm
[12:03] <FlannelKing> Q_Continuum: no http access at the moment, just SSH, or I'd google till my hearts content.
[12:03] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, how do i set it so that my comp doesn't ask for password when it comes out of screen saver mode ?
[12:03] <maxkelley> cedriczg: what's the problem then? does it work from terminal?
[12:04] <colm> FlannelKing,  Links!
[12:04] <maxkelley> RemyLaptop: not possible.
[12:04] <RemyLaptop> k
[12:04] <cedriczg> from terminal yes, but it is weird for me that it has to be done this way
[12:04] <rupan3> RemyLaptop: turn off your screensaver
[12:04] <maxkelley> it's built into xscreensaver, standard sexy linux procedure :)
[12:04] <rupan3> :)
[12:04] <cedriczg> that's wht it is a little problem :P
[12:04] <maxkelley> hmm odd
[12:04] <maxkelley> cedriczg: sorry we can't help.. just try messing around with it :)
[12:04] <cedriczg> I had to sort a lot of bigger problems to make matlab work fine !!!
[12:05] <CyCloBot> rupan3: how do i turn on all debugging
[12:05] <cedriczg> thanks anyway
[12:05] <maxkelley> cedriczg: btw, what is the tld .uy?
[12:05] <Ubunter> hi all
[12:05] <maxkelley> uruguay?
[12:05] <maxkelley> hey, Ubunter
[12:05] <cedriczg> uruguay
[12:05] <maxkelley> haha, me guessed.
[12:05] <knoppix> hi
[12:05] <Ubunter> hi
[12:05] <cedriczg> alguien pregunt por uruguay?
[12:05] <liskl_> another question: how to change startup runlevel 2 to runlevel 3?
[12:05] <rupan3> CyCloBot: use your fKeys (f1-f8) they display information about varibles you can pass on to the boot loader.
[12:05] <maxkelley> do they speak portuguese there or spanish?
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> !pspp
[12:05] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> !spss
[12:06] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[12:06] <PDani> is there ubuntu mini install iso?
[12:06] <Ubunter> may someone help me?
[12:06] <rupan3> CyCloBot: one of those has a page that will tell you
[12:06] <xcc>  what i may do with 2pt fonts in many applications %(
[12:06] <CyCloBot> rupan3 prive chat?
[12:06] <dyrne> PDani, i believe there is a server install iso
[12:06] <Seyekoh> cedriczg: what app do you need a launcher for?
[12:06] <rupan3> CyCloBot: sure
[12:06] <mikebot> on the windows dual boot thing it says i need 10 gb of free space, but do i really need that much?
[12:06] <maxkelley> no tengo mas preguntas. quiero comer mi cena :) adios... :)
[12:06] <PDani> dyrne: where?
[12:06] <xcc>  what i may do with 2pt fonts in many applications? %(
[12:06] <rupan3> have a good dinenr max
[12:06] <cedriczg> maxkelley yes I'm from Uruguay
[12:06] <rupan3> diiner even
[12:06] <sandrinux> Good night all... I go to play with my new desktop :-)
[12:06] <cedriczg> maxkelley: yes I'm from Uruguay
[12:07] <Ubunter> I have a netword card, listed in "device manager" but I don't have eth0 ...
[12:07] <Ubunter> I can't even configure it
[12:07] <cedriczg> Seyekoh: for matlab7
[12:07] <IdleOne> !es
[12:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:07] <Seyekoh> cedriczg: right click desktop > create launcher > name it whatever you want > for command put in /path/to/matlab7 have it as an application
[12:07] <iBalo> mikebot: 10 GB is the minimun sensible space for _WinXP_ ... ubuntu will install fine in 3 GB, although i'd recommend a 4-5 Gig partition
[12:07] <biovore> cedriczg: matlab 7 is kinda of a pain to setup on linux
[12:07] <Seyekoh> it will create an icon on your desktop that you dbl click to run the proggie
[12:07] <xcc>  hi 4 all from not-orange Ukraine!!!
[12:08] <cedriczg> Seyekoh: I said I know the how but it works only if I ask it to be run in a terminal
[12:08] <Ubunter> lol xcc :D (non-orange :D)
[12:08] <dyrne> PDani, i would have thought itd be appearant on ubuntu.com but im having trouble finding it once sec
[12:08] <mikebot> anyone?
[12:08] <Seyekoh> cedriczg: oh, sorry, i left the room mid conversation
[12:08] <cedriczg> biovore: I see!!!!!!
[12:08] <scottj> how do I change gnome theme from console? I installed a theme that crashes on use and now I can't change it.
[12:09] <cedriczg> thanks you guys anyway
[12:09] <Q_Continuum> mikebot: 10GB for the Windows partition, or for Ubuntu?
[12:09] <xcc> yep bad in en %( sorry
[12:09] <cedriczg> at least I could make it run...
[12:09] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: ubuntu
[12:09] <j2daosh> anyone proficeitn in bash?
[12:09] <mikebot> Q_Continuum:  Type in a new size in Gigabytes for your partition, it's recommended you free up AT LEAST 10 GB of free space for your Ubuntu install
[12:09] <xcc>  2pt fonts in many applications? %(
[12:09] <biovore> j2daosh: wnat you want to do?
[12:09] <IdleOne> scottj:  log out and at the login screen click on session and choose failsafe you should then be able to remove the theme you installed
[12:09] <Q_Continuum> well, you need swap space (usually 1-2GB) plus space for the OS, working files, etc.
[12:09] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9467
[12:10] <Q_Continuum> mikebot: is space an issue?
[12:10] <j2daosh> take a look at that and tell me why it aint working
[12:10] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: i've got 6.46 free
[12:10] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: yeah
[12:10] <PDani> ^quit
[12:10] <ompaul> mikebot, what ram have you got?
[12:10] <mikebot> ompaul: ummm one esc
[12:10] <biovore> j2daosh: not working as in sytax error.. or dosn't do waht you want
[12:11] <Ubunter> I have a netword card, listed in "device manager" but I don't have eth0 on net configuration.
[12:11] <xcc>  Ukrains rubbish wait 4 your answer
[12:11] <mikebot> ompaul: i don't know, how do i check? i think it's 256
[12:11] <Ubunter> please :)
[12:11] <j2daosh> ill repost with results
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> mikebot that *could* work.  Wouldn't be able to do a whole lot with it, but if you're just looking to play with Ubuntu you'd be fine.
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> mikebot in windows?  right-click My Computer->Properties
[12:11] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9468
[12:11] <ompaul> mike4263, so  type 500 for sway for swap
[12:11] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: what wouldn't i be able ot do though?
[12:11] <iBalo> Here's what df -h tells for my / partition: /dev/hdc2             3,1G  2,4G  716M  77% /
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> mikebot install every package, install large games, or copy a whole bunch of data into it.
[12:11] <ompaul> mike4263, give 5.9G to the core filesystem
[12:12] <Q_Continuum> mikebot let me see how much space my fresh install took
[12:12] <ompaul> mike4263, sorry wrong mike
[12:12] <j2daosh> why des it say that? i know that line 89/90 is because it is the pid of my initial grep which isn't a valid pid anymore after the grep finishes... but why is it too many parameters on line 42?
[12:12] <ompaul> mikebot, give 5.9G to the core filesystem
[12:12] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: what's a package? i don't play games and have a seperate harddrive for most data, plus i'm doing a dual instlal so i can always use my windows for ntfs stuff
[12:13] <itagaa> Heya guys anybody knows if it is possible to install ubuntu from a usbdevice (512 mb) because for some unknown reason i don't seem to be able to boot from cd :/
[12:13] <Q_Continuum> mikebot package = app
[12:13] <ompaul> mikebot, then give the rest to the os and whatever else you want to do
[12:13] <mikebot> i would only need enough room for fla's and doc's
[12:13] <ompaul> mikebot, sorry for swap
[12:13] <mikebot> opbut i don't need 10gb then
[12:13] <FlannelKing> itagaa: yeah, you just have to have a motherboard that'll boot from a usb device
[12:13] <mikebot> swap?
[12:13] <ompaul> mike4263, you need a min of 2.5 to do a small install but you will survive
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> mikebot you should be able to get by.  Just have to be careful what all you decide to install (might have to go through and remove some apps you don't use)
[12:14] <biovore> j2daosh: you have vars not equal to anything..  try setting the vars. var1="" as an example  vat1= <-- causes errors
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> mikebot swap = windows pagefile
[12:14] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: ah
[12:14] <harritj> File::Recurse <-- any package that holds or do I need to take it via cpan?
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> temporary HD space in case there's not enough RAM.
[12:14] <mikebot> i think i might just format my c:
[12:14] <mikebot> without looking to see what's on it
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> how big's the disk?
[12:14] <j2daosh> biovore... it works fine in my simple test script
[12:14] <mikebot> then i would have enough space
[12:14] <Ivan_Garmoshka> what i may do with very small fonts inx-applications?
[12:14] <ompaul> Q_Continuum, he won't that kind of problem from what he is saying Ubuntu is not that prolific it is 2gigs base for Breezy
[12:14] <j2daosh> ill paste that one to show
[12:14] <alphabeticalizat> can someone help me get the codecs for avi and other movie formats?
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> ompaul true.  I couldn't rememeber how big it was.
[12:14] <IdleOne> !ukraine
[12:14] <ubotu> IdleOne: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:15] <ompaul> Q_Continuum, s/Breezy/5.10
[12:15] <itagaa> [00:13]  <FlannelKing> itagaa: yeah, you just have to have a motherboard that'll boot from a usb device >> doens't allow that :(
[12:15] <IdleOne> anybody know the country code for ukraine?
[12:15] <RemyLaptop> are there any good packages that contain desktop background images and more themes ?
[12:15] <ompaul> IdleOne, uk
[12:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell alphabeticalizat about w32codecs
[12:15] <IdleOne> !uk
[12:15] <ubotu> IdleOne: Bugger all, I dunno.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[12:15] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9469
[12:16] <j2daosh> there u go biovore
[12:16] <alphabeticalizat> ok thx
[12:16] <Ivan_Garmoshka> IdleOne, UA
[12:16] <Madpilot> !ru
[12:16] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:16] <RemyLaptop> anyone know any good packages that contain desktop background images and more themes ?
[12:16] <Alexi5> hey guys
[12:16] <j2daosh> hello
[12:16] <biovore> I think its your if statement
[12:16] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, search Synaptic for "theme" - look for gtk2 packages
[12:16] <Madpilot> !tell RemyLaptop about themes
[12:16] <j2daosh> but what is wrong with the if statement?
[12:16] <bobbyd> hi
[12:16] <biovore> echo "$name1" == "Root" Is whats causing the problem
[12:16] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, also, check the URLs the bot just sent you
[12:16] <mikebot> 7.49 free now
[12:17] <mikebot> that should be fine
[12:17] <ompaul> Ubunter, no it is en_GB
[12:17] <mikebot> and do 7 for the install or something?
[12:17] <j2daosh> ....how is that the problem?
[12:17] <k31th> evening all
[12:17] <ProjectX> Does anybody know if Ubuntu will follow any of the things listed in "The Linux Distribution Of The Future"?
[12:17] <bobbyd> can anyone recommend a user-level app (ie not compliated) for encoding video from a video4linux compatible card to a decent sized video file?
[12:17] <j2daosh> ok ill mod the test5 script i made to see if it is the "$name1" == "root"
[12:17] <mikebot> ompaul: is that a fair ratio, swap 500mb and ubuntu 7gb?
[12:17] <iBalo> RemyLaptop: sudo apt-get install gnome-art, and then choose whta you wnat from http://www.art.gnome.org
[12:18] <mark_> Hello ppl
[12:18] <spikebike> memencoder/mplayer or ffmpeg
[12:18] <RemyLaptop> thanks fues
[12:18] <RemyLaptop> *guys
[12:18] <j2daosh> RemyLaptop, no just install gnome-art and then go to system, preferences, art manager and dl from there
[12:18] <ompaul> mikebot, if you can do that much yes
[12:18] <BEAR> 2PT FONTS IN X MAKES MY AGRESSIVE :#
[12:18] <spikebike> swap depends more on ram than disk
[12:18] <ProjectX> Does anybody know if Ubuntu will follow any of the things listed in "The Linux Distribution Of The Future"? http://akaimbatman.blogspot.com/2005/06/linux-desktop-distribution-of-future_15.html
[12:18] <mark_> what media player would be used for wma
[12:18] <BEAR> 2PT FONTS IN X MAKES MY AGRESSIVE :#
[12:18] <mikebot> ompaul: okay thanks
[12:18] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: thanks for your help
[12:19] <ompaul> BEAR, and caps lock are not for here
[12:19] <IdleOne> BEAR:  please stop that
[12:19] <mikebot> i have to reboot to install this, so, hopefully i'll be back sometime soon
[12:19] <Q_Continuum> mikebot: That's what we're here for.  Users helping users :D
[12:19] <IdleOne> !ua
[12:19] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[12:19] <bobbyd> spikebike, was the mencoder idea for me?
[12:19] <BEAR> IdleOne, execuse sir
[12:19] <IdleOne> sorry about the fishing folks
[12:20] <biovore> j2daosh: Try: if [ $USER = "Root" ] ; then echo "I am root"; fi
[12:20] <mark_> What player wud be used for .WMA files
[12:20] <RemyLaptop> totem
[12:20] <Q_Continuum> ProjectX: #2 is the only one I see Ubuntu (possibly) having issues with, but that's more of a "making the user understand the layout"
[12:20] <RemyLaptop> mark_, check out www.easyubuntu.com
[12:20] <trappist> $USER isn't likely to equal "Root"
[12:20] <BEAR> IdleOne, how i stop my problem with small fonts?
[12:20] <mark_> k thnx
[12:20] <ompaul> IdleOne, you got a pm :)
[12:20] <Madpilot> !tell mark about restricted
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> mark_, I meant: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> mark_  that will install all the codecs and players you need for you
[12:21] <Q_Continuum> ProjectX: even #2 might not matter...most (normal users) people just want it to work, and they ask for help, we walk them through it step-by-step (or have how-tos/tutorials ready to go)
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> !easyubuntu
[12:21] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:21] <Demigod> anyone in here who has experience with MySQL?
[12:22] <spikebike> yes
[12:22] <biovore> Demigod: I know some stuff
[12:22] <RemyLaptop> !tell mark_ about easyubuntu
[12:22] <NickGarve1> ./join #mysql
[12:22] <Demigod> did you download the software from mysql.com?
[12:22] <biovore> Demigod: apt-get install mysql-server
[12:22] <Demigod> hmmm
[12:22] <Demigod> thanks for that info :D
[12:22] <k31th> you guys use Amsn or gaim ?
[12:22] <liskl> anyone know why tabs aren't working by defualt in fluxbox on ubuntu 5.10
[12:23] <dejx> guys
[12:23] <console_> does anyone know how to set up two net cards which share the same driver?
[12:23] <dejx> i think there is a firewall
[12:23] <rupan3> k31th: i use gaim
[12:23] <dejx> on my computer
[12:23] <dejx> but iptables -F dont disable it.
[12:24] <liskl> package install "fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb"
[12:24] <rupan3> dejx: why do you think that
[12:24] <biovore> dejx: what dose iptables -v -list say?
[12:24] <mark_> ok, all i downloaded was a .zip file from easyubuntu! now what?
[12:24] <k31th> i might try fluxbox on this box
[12:24] <k31th> im getting pissed with bloated windows managers
[12:24] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~/fts$ telnet localhost 11234
[12:24] <dejx> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[12:24] <dejx> this should give me, con refused.
[12:24] <rupan3> k31th: try xubuntu
[12:25] <k31th> wat exactly is that ?
[12:25] <dejx> iptables v1.3.1: Unknown arg `-v'
[12:25] <rupan3> k31th: ubuntu using the xfce4 desktop environment
[12:25] <k31th> never seen that or used it
[12:25] <rupan3> it's pretty rockin
[12:25] <biovore> dejx: sudo iptables --list -v
[12:25] <k31th> wat about  enlightenment ?
[12:26] <rupan3> its what i use on my box
[12:26] <liskl> k3lth grab the newest fluxbox deb here http://people.debian.org/~dopey/fluxbox/ubuntu-breezy/fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[12:26] <sean> how have I managed to install ubuntu without a root password?
[12:26] <dejx> i am root.
[12:26] <rupan3> enlightenment is a window manager
[12:26] <rupan3> dejx: you shouldn't irc as root
[12:26] <sean> I don't recall being prompted to enter one during the install
[12:26] <dejx> no
[12:26] <j2daosh> ok biovore, i changed the "$name1" == "root" and that fixed half of it... it got to "if" statement 7... then it is giving me an error about the let var= part...
[12:26] <dejx> i'm in xterm
[12:26] <dejx> and su
[12:26] <rupan3> ah
[12:26] <k31th> rupan3: im gonna try it out
[12:26] <rupan3> totally
[12:26] <rupan3> there's some good articles on the wiki
[12:27] <rupan3> about xubuntu and xfce4
[12:27] <madgik85> sean: theres no root account i believe, u use sudo to use root commands, and enter ur password
[12:27] <dejx> http://pastebin.com/575777
[12:27] <j2daosh> something is wrong with this line.... what is it?      let var = $(echo "$line7"|cut -c10-14)
[12:27] <j2daosh>      ?
[12:27] <ompaul> BEAR, so use bigger ones
[12:27] <CyCloBot> rupan3: i skipped the the cdrom checl but it now asks for a module and device?
[12:28] <biovore> j2daosh: let var6=$(echo "$line1"|cut -c10-14)  should be let var6=(echo "$line1"|cut -c10-14)  I think...
[12:28] <ompaul> BEAR, and please stop bringing it up here
[12:28] <sean> madgik85, then how do launch sysnaptic from the menus?
[12:28] <dyrne> what do you guyes prefer for streaming audio? icecast?
[12:28] <k31th> rupan3: its just apt-get install xubuntu ???
[12:28] <j2daosh> ....really...
[12:28] <j2daosh> lemme try it
[12:28] <biovore> dejx: Looks like theres no fire wall here..
[12:28] <madgik85> sean: when prompted for a password just enter ur user password
[12:28] <sean> that don't work
[12:28] <Q_Continuum> sean whenever you do something that needs root access, it will prompt for your password, you have sudo'er privileges(sp?)
[12:28] <k31th> did u start the service
[12:28] <dejx> but why dont i get connection refused ?
[12:28] <BEAR> just lines in application windows
[12:29] <k31th> or stop it
[12:29] <k31th> just stop iptables
[12:29] <biovore> dejx: what you tring to connect to.
[12:29] <k31th> and try then
[12:29] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~/fts$ telnet localhost 11234
[12:29] <dejx> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[12:29] <dejx> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[12:29] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~/fts$
[12:29] <sean> failed to run synaptic as user root wrong password
[12:29] <dejx> its closed port
[12:29] <j2daosh> nope... it needs the $
[12:29] <biovore> dejx: you have telnet installed
[12:29] <hagbard_> hi, i cant get eclipse to work on my amd64.... any suggestions? error log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/304/
[12:29] <ompaul> dejx, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:29] <biovore> j2daosh: not really sure then man..
[12:29] <madgik85> sean: u created an account for urself when u installed right? that the account ur logged in as. Use that password
[12:29] <dejx> biovore ?
[12:30] <dejx> yes, i have
[12:30] <sean> madgik85, that's what I'm doing
[12:30] <madgik85> sean: u sure u entered the password correctly?
[12:30] <biovore> dejx: you probably want to use ssh.. much better
[12:30] <NickGarve1> ssh is great stuff..
[12:30] <sean> it's a pretty regular password for me
[12:30] <dejx> that's not the point, point is, 11234 is closed port
[12:30] <biovore> dejx: netstat -nal show port 21 active?
[12:30] <biovore> telnet is port 21 by default
[12:30] <Q_Continuum> sean: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo in case you want more info on it.
[12:30] <sean> and I login with it ok
[12:31] <dejx> no
[12:31] <dejx> listen to me.
[12:31] <dejx> you can
[12:31] <dejx> telnet localhost 22
[12:31] <dejx> to check version of sshd, for example
[12:31] <biovore> ssh is 22
[12:31] <dejx> yes
[12:31] <CyCloBot> rupan3: i skipped the the cdrom checl but it now asks for a module and device?
[12:31] <dejx> or telnet some.irc.server 6667
[12:31] <dejx> and then irc via telnet
[12:31] <dejx> nevermind biovore, can somebody else help me?
[12:31] <IdleOne> !tell dejx  about enter
[12:31] <Madpilot> !enter
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[12:31] <Madpilot> IdleOne, beat me to it :P
[12:32] <IdleOne> Im getting quicker
[12:32] <IdleOne> :P
[12:32] <biovore> dejx: oh.. thats what your tring to do..
[12:32] <sean> looks to me like the sudo stuff wasn't set up properly, the install did freeze at one point, and I had to manually reset
[12:32] <BEAR> ompaul, i know u dont understand cause my english is really bad///but said 2 me how change fonts in gnome///where is fonts location in ext3?
[12:32] <ompaul> BEAR, you may want to do this: from the menu: System -> Preferences -> Font
[12:32] <Madpilot> sean, sudo <command> + your own pw doesn't work?
[12:33] <sean> no it doesn't
[12:33] <NickGarve1> oh that happened with me sean
[12:33] <ompaul> BEAR, so you understand that ?
[12:33] <biovore> dejx: dose it work with a standard irc client?
[12:33] <NickGarve1> what did I do..
[12:33] <NickGarve1> I think I reinstalled
[12:33] <Ubunter> I have a netword card, listed in "device manager" but I don't have eth0 on net configuration.
[12:33] <BEAR> no results man ((( im tried
[12:33] <dejx> bilange, nevermind, really, can somebody else please help me
[12:33] <javiolo> is there any way to wake up my ubuntu at a certain hour ?
[12:33] <NickGarve1> oh I'd like to know that javiolo
[12:34] <BEAR> ompaul, no results, man ((( im tried
[12:34] <biovore> dejx: you'll be luck to find anyone who read the RFC on IRC
[12:34] <Madpilot> BEAR, at the top of your screen there are menus - click the "System" one, then choose "Preferences" then "Font" - adjust your fonts there
[12:34] <sean> jeez, i only installed ubuntu after 3 failed mepis installs today :(
[12:34] <BEAR> yes i know - no results
[12:34] <sean> new mepis version is buggy as hell
[12:34] <ompaul> BEAR, you tried that and it failed.
[12:35] <NickGarve1> mm
[12:35] <sean> is this going to be any better NickGarve1
[12:35] <rupan3> lol
[12:35] <CyCloBot> How do i know which module to pick for my cd rom?
[12:35] <NickGarve1> it worked for me sean
[12:35] <sean> shall I persevere
[12:35] <Jsm> is their a default root pw?
[12:35] <IdleOne> !tell Jsm  about root
[12:35] <Madpilot> Jsm, no. use sudo and your own user pw
[12:36] <rupan3> biovore: i read rfc1459.
[12:36] <javiolo> Nickgarvel let see if anyone here knows the answer :P
[12:36] <rupan3> lol
[12:36] <sean> which sometimes doesn't work
[12:36] <Jsm> mmk ok Ill use sudo iv never head of that
[12:36] <madgik85> sean: not sure exaclt how to do it but using visudo u can setup up permissions i think, might want to google that?
[12:36] <rupan3> Jsm: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:36] <rupan3> read around
[12:36] <luisdefreitas> hi everybody
[12:36] <rupan3> it will save you a lot of headaches
[12:36] <IdleOne> Jsm:  read the msg ubotu  sent you it will explain in greater detail
[12:36] <rupan3> a little bit of knowledge goes a long way
[12:37] <CyCloBot> rupan3: i skipped the the cdrom checl but it now asks for a module and device?
[12:37] <Jsm> idleone im checking the link it said
[12:37] <rupan3> hrm
[12:37] <Rob_Dude> Hi all
[12:37] <IdleOne> hello rob
[12:37] <sean> do all users get sudo privileges or just the first one
[12:37] <IdleOne> Rob_Dude:
[12:37] <Madpilot> sean, just the first one by default
[12:37] <x|c|c_> 4 example: im compiled new programm with clasical commands (make etc) and see windows of nu progrms with smallest fonts in tha galactic ((( n im cried
[12:38] <sean> oh well, better install again and see if it works this time
[12:38] <sean> nice gui though
[12:38] <sean> i'm used to kde
[12:38] <IdleOne> !enter
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[12:38] <maxkelley> sean: what gui?
[12:38] <Madpilot> sean, if it's a fresh install a reinstall might be easier than trying to fix the sudo mess :P
[12:39] <maxkelley> IdleOne: wow.. that bot makes everyone lazy.
[12:39] <sean> indeed, l8r
[12:39] <rupan3> CyCloBot: register your nick so you can recieve msgs (/msg nickserv register <password>)
[12:39] <luisdefreitas> why we cant use root
[12:39] <xcc> ompaul, 4 example: im compiled new programm with clasical commands (make etc) and see windows of nu progrms with smallest fonts in tha galactic ((( n im cried
[12:39] <luisdefreitas> i hate that
[12:39] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  makes us lazy how?
[12:39] <drasko> How to enable gnome sounds?
[12:39] <maxkelley> luisdefreitas: I don't know, why can't we?
[12:39] <Q_Continuum> maxkelley, it just lets us simplify the easy answers, so we can focus on the more thinking questions.
[12:39] <Rob_Dude> I'm having some connection/internet troubles.  I've edited my /etc/resolv.conf but it keeps getting changed.  For whatever reason, it lists 3 DNS servers in the file, but the first one doesn't work.  After I edit that file, I can surf the net fine, but without editiing, it seems like it tries the first DNS *every* time I try to resolve a hostname
[12:39] <maxkelley> IdleOne: it's not that hard to type out..
[12:39] <CyCloBot> ok, i'm registed
[12:39] <rupan3> luis you can, you just have to set it up
[12:39] <rupan3> ok
[12:39] <luisdefreitas> how
[12:39] <Madpilot> luisdefreitas, because sudo works just as well?
[12:39] <riddlebox> can someone tell me how to resolve this error? http://pastebin.com/575807
[12:39] <riddlebox> please
[12:39] <ompaul> BEAR, I only have one other idea. Start synaptic package manager, from the menu, System - Administration - Synaptic, and search for fonts
[12:40] <Madpilot> !tell luisdefreitas about sudo
[12:40] <javiolo> is there any way to wake up my ubuntu at a certain hour ?
[12:40] <jroes> heya, is there going to be any real difference in using a k7 kernel instead of a 386 kernel if you have an athlon processor, but you aren't doing SMP?
[12:40] <javiolo> !wake up
[12:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, javiolo
[12:40] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  so you mean Im lazy?
[12:40] <ompaul> BEAR, then try that gnome fonts button again
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> man am trying to see my windows partion
[12:40] <Unity> hey what is the best way to download all the files in a directory over http? even the ones not referenced by any links anywhere?
[12:40] <maxkelley> javiolo: look in your system bios.. not a ubuntu thing
[12:40] <drasko> Hmmm...
[12:40] <drasko> Ahem...
[12:40] <maxkelley> IdleOne: no.. just saying.
[12:40] <xcc> tell me plz 1 thing: where is fonts location in ext3?
[12:40] <Madpilot> jroes, the k7 will be able to use more than 900Mb of RAM, if you've got more than that
[12:40] <drasko> How to enable gnome sounds?
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> and i need root priv to change the user
[12:40] <IdleOne> !tell luisdefreitas  about mount
[12:40] <Q_Continuum> maxkelley, not all of us know all the locations for everything.  It lets us answer the question efficiently, and move on to the next question.
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> i know
[12:40] <jroes> Madpilot: oh, crap!  I do!  awesome, thanks :)
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> about mount
[12:40] <ompaul> xcc ==bear?
[12:40] <xcc> y
[12:40] <rupan3> Unity: wget --help
[12:41] <dejx> god
[12:41] <drasko> How to enable gnome sounds?
[12:41] <dejx> i'm dead
[12:41] <Madpilot> luisdefreitas, read the URL the bot just sent you
[12:41] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  the bot is there to be used as a tool and ppl smarter then me set it up so I figure i rather give the bots answer ()
[12:41] <dejx> :/
[12:41] <Unity> rupan3: thanks
[12:41] <drasko> Sounds in Gnome anyone?
[12:41] <Jsm> Drasko i think you need to get sound drivers
[12:41] <maxkelley> mkay
[12:41] <drasko> Can you hear these clicks?
[12:41] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yes
[12:41] <ompaul> xcc, I only have one other idea. Start synaptic package manager, from the menu, System - Administration - Synaptic, and search for fonts
[12:41] <javiolo> maxkelley I can do this with os x, is there any soft to do this? or only bios setup ?
[12:42] <drasko> Jsm, my sound works fine, just these Gnome sounds I don't hear...
[12:42] <ompaul> xcc, add what you can from there
[12:42] <Jsm> Drasko, ahh ;)
[12:42] <luisdefreitas> can we talk like privete
[12:42] <drasko> Jsm, mp3 works fine...
[12:42] <xcc> just install fonts? it must be principally russian fonts 4 my locale?
[12:42] <luisdefreitas> is too many thing running
[12:42] <maxkelley> javiolo: Mac's don't have a bios necessarily.. I think there's a way to hibernate the computer and have it wake up.. not sure.
[12:42] <ompaul> xcc, well you should find them there
[12:43] <maxkelley> since the OS is made by the same people that make the computer, they can interface the hardware better.
[12:43] <javiolo> maxkelley mac ppc doesnt have a bios they have something similar
[12:43] <drasko> Also does gnome-sound-properties, I can hesr sounds then. But where to enable sounds to hear them allways, like on loggoing in?
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> speaking of mac ppc
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> i have a problem booting from the cd
[12:43] <maxkelley> Is it EFI?
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> no
[12:43] <maxkelley> SoulPropagation: shoot.
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> it's an old G3
[12:43] <javiolo> SoulPropagation just press C
[12:43] <javiolo> oh
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> pre-imac
[12:43] <tim__> is there an ftp utility that installs with ubuntu
[12:43] <xcc> ompaul, thnk u richsoul man!
[12:44] <evilbulgarian> hi, how do i compile something that only has a config.m4?
[12:44] <Madpilot> drasko, check System menu -> Prefs -> Sound, make sure the "Enable Sound Server Startup" tickbox is checked
[12:44] <Rob_Dude> tim_:  'ftp' ?
[12:44] <maxkelley> tim__: I think gftp.. try typing it in a terminal
[12:44] <ompaul> xcc, da da, neit! I just try sometimes
[12:44] <maxkelley> either that or ftp.
[12:44] <ompaul> xcc, and no I do not speak russian :0
[12:44] <javiolo> SoulPropagation did you try to boot from open firmware ?
[12:44] <drasko> Madpilot, it is checked...
[12:44] <tim__> im looking for one like flash fxp
[12:44] <SoulPropagation> yes
[12:44] <rupan3> command line ftp is where its at hehe
[12:44] <xcc> ompaul u speak in koi-8r? )))
[12:44] <maxkelley> hehe
[12:44] <drasko> But Alsa seems to give problems...
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> i got into open firmware, and i did:
[12:45] <ompaul> xcc, neit :)
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> boot cd:,\install\yaboot
[12:45] <Rob_Dude> Does FireFox have built in ftp support?
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> and it didn't work
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> Rob_Dude: not uploading
[12:45] <maxkelley> Rob: no.. nautilus does.
[12:45] <IdleOne> Rob_Dude:  there is a ftp plugin for firefox
[12:45] <javiolo> SoulPropagation and ?
[12:45] <Rob_Dude> Cool, ty
[12:45] <xcc> ompaul u mean NET? (NO)
[12:45] <Rob_Dude> Er, what is Nautilus?  Another web-browser?
[12:45] <Mrono> anyone ever used powermated
[12:45] <xcc> DA?
[12:45] <Mrono> or gizmod
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> it ignored me and went to the 9.2 happy mac screen
[12:45] <ompaul> xcc, yes I mean no :)
[12:46] <SoulPropagation> and i tried this on ... 3 of em
[12:46] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: nautilus is the gnome file manager
[12:46] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, ty
[12:46] <SoulPropagation> brb
[12:46] <maxkelley> Places > connect to server (select ftp)
[12:46] <drasko> mp3 works, also does gnome-sound-properties, I can hear sounds then (which are available in Gnome). But where to enable sounds to hear them allways, like on logging in?
[12:46] <rupan3> nautilus rules..
[12:46] <tim__> fgftp didnt workin the command line
[12:46] <maxkelley> rupan3: posh.
[12:46] <xcc> ompaul i hope learn language in en-speaking mases
[12:46] <tim__> gftp i mean
[12:46] <marlun> I just installed ubuntu and for some reason I wasn't asked for keyboard language, I believe its set to an american keyboard now and I've got a swedish one. I went to Preferences > Keyboard, Layouts Tab, and removed the american layout and added the swedish one, but it didn\t help, the keys are still wrong. Any ideas?
[12:46] <IdleOne> tim_:  sudo apt-get install gftp
[12:46] <maxkelley> tim__: use ftp then :)
[12:47] <ssam> SoulPropagation, you might need bootx for that old a mac
[12:47] <rupan3> i should use nautilus instead of xffm
[12:47] <maxkelley> hmmm..
[12:47] <ompaul> xcc, stay here for a while and watch
[12:47] <rupan3> xffm is a bit of a pain.
[12:47] <simonbp> marlun: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:47] <maxkelley> rupan3: true..
[12:48] <mjr> 40
[12:48] <rupan3> anyone using any non-default file managers?
[12:48] <simonbp> marlun: may be tough to get through if your kb layout is wrong though. good luck
[12:48] <maxkelley> 41 :)
[12:48] <maxkelley> rupan3: xffm?
[12:48] <xcc> ompaul yeah! great support!
[12:48] <javiolo> SoulPropagation check the cd is well writen and redeable
[12:48] <rupan3> xffm is the default that comes with xfce4
[12:48] <maxkelley> hehe, it'd be funny if we had a little number display, where people take a ticket.
[12:49] <marlun> simonbp, thanks, i\ll try ") damn, cant even write a smiley
[12:49] <maxkelley> "Number 41!!"
[12:49] <anthony> what package do i have to install in order to get the little button that shuts down my laptop lcd display to work? (you know how when you close your laptop lid the lcd shuts down 'cause it touches the little button, well now it's not doing that, and i  did a server/clean install then built my own packages so i think there's something missing here)
[12:49] <ptivoiz1> bonne nuit
[12:49] <ompaul> xcc,  The people in here are volunteers.
[12:49] <rupan3> anthony: there are a lot of blogs out there written by laptop owners who run linux
[12:49] <maxkelley> anthony: we don't support all acpi sort of stuff.. by we, I mean ubuntu
[12:49] <maxkelley> anthony: google ubuntu 5.10 and <laptop model>
[12:50] <maxkelley> usually turns up good results.
[12:50] <rupan3> anthony: even  linux <laptop model>
[12:50] <Unity> rupan3: i tried to wget a directory but the only thing i got was an empty index.html and none of the files that i know for a fact are actually there
[12:50] <Rob_Dude> How do I edit/view/work with, environment variables?  I either need to change one, or recompile my kernal with a different version of gcc.  Which would be easier? ;)
[12:50] <dejx> http://pastebin.com/575822
[12:50] <dejx> what the heck?
[12:50] <rupan3> that's what i did for my hp laptop
[12:50] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: I think it's EXPORT <var>=<value> or something..
[12:50] <maxkelley> manpages! :)
[12:51] <Madpilot> dejx, try "sudo firestarter"
[12:51] <k31th> rupan3: this desktop is DOPE
[12:51] <xcc> today i have troubles with Quake 1.31 game install ((( im run th shell script and my stoppin like turtle half hour with no results
[12:51] <rupan3> Unity: try wget --help
[12:51] <maxkelley> dapper should have Xgl as an option
[12:51] <maxkelley> hey, lscd :)
[12:51] <rupan3> Unity: you have to set the right switches to recurse and download directories
[12:51] <k31th> rupan3: running xfce now :D
[12:52] <rupan3> k31th: its pretty sick huh
[12:52] <Ubunter> how to restart a network card on console?
[12:52] <k31th> yeah i like
[12:52] <maxkelley> Ubunter: sudo ifup --force ethx
[12:52] <rupan3> k31th: i love the look and feel and the fact that login to desktop takes about 2 seconds'
[12:52] <dejx> Madpilot, you maybe didnt see
[12:52] <maxkelley> where x is interface number
[12:52] <zax1> hey peeps
[12:52] <dejx> #
[12:52] <simonbp> ubunter: ifdown <interface name>; ifup <interface name>
[12:52] <Ubunter> thank you maxkelley :D
[12:52] <dejx> i'm root
[12:52] <zax1> wonder if nay one can help wit ha driver issue
[12:52] <xcc> zax1, alloha
[12:52] <zax1> hi xcc
[12:52] <maxkelley> simonbp: doesn't ifup --force do the same?
[12:53] <Ubunter> oh, shit. The problem is that I don't have interface number !!
[12:53] <Madpilot> dejx, ah, I missed that - I never use root...
[12:53] <maxkelley> Ubunter: well, what is it, ethernet?
[12:53] <Ubunter> yes
[12:53] <simonbp> maxkelly: meh. never tried it. now I will though.
[12:53] <dejx> where do i get those files?
[12:53] <maxkelley> do sudo ifconfig and find it in there
[12:53] <Unity> rupan3: i have set -r
[12:53] <Ubunter> no maxkelley, the card is not there
[12:53] <SoulPropagation> javiolo: i'm using a shipit
[12:54] <Unity> rupan3: is it possible that the server doen't want me to list the files under that directory?
[12:54] <Ubunter> but it appears in device manager :-/
[12:54] <zax1> what if i cant find a linux drivre for a device that works perfectly on windows and mac ?
[12:54] <zax1> what can i do to get it to work ?
[12:54] <maxkelley> Ubunter: odd. have you tried network-admin?
[12:54] <rupan3> Unity: dunno about that
[12:54] <Ubunter> how I do that?
[12:54] <rupan3> i still think you're missing a switch
[12:54] <maxkelley> zax1: it's hard for us to support all devices...
[12:54] <zax1> 4 sure
[12:54] <h3ax> Finally
[12:54] <maxkelley> Ubunter: tools > administration > network or something like that
[12:55] <javiolo> SoulPropagation ok I think once I tried to install ubuntu on a beige g3 but as I can remember something was wrong
[12:55] <zax1> are you saying that there is a posibility that i wont get it to work ?
[12:55] <maxkelley> zax1: big companies don't make drivers for linux, often.. what is the device?
[12:55] <Ubunter> yep, I supposed it.
[12:55] <mjr> zax1, not much generally, complain to the manufacturer
[12:55] <h3ax> i won the battle against opression from the VMware killer stuff
[12:55] <Ubunter> I only have modem
[12:55] <mjr> zax1, indeed
[12:55] <caroline> hi
[12:55] <zax1> hmm
[12:55] <caroline> everyone
[12:55] <Ubunter> hi
[12:55] <maxkelley> hiez!
[12:55] <Jae686> hi
[12:55] <caroline> what u talkin bout?
[12:55] <javiolo> SoulPropagation my next step is to install a *BSD
[12:55] <maxkelley> ubuntu :)
[12:55] <zax1> well its a comon enough device, it an ADSL USB modem, it uses a conexant chipset
[12:55] <caroline> hmm im not a computer geek r u?
[12:55] <maxkelley> zax1: all I can say is google
[12:56] <Ubunter> about the world an how to fix it :D
[12:56] <maxkelley> caroline: how did you end up here, then? :)
[12:56] <zax1> i am googled out
[12:56] <maxkelley> zax1: what is the brand?
[12:56] <caroline> i am on my laptop
[12:56] <mjr> zax1, one would generally suggest an ADSL modem that has an ethernet interface
[12:56] <zax1> the one i use is a TRUST
[12:56] <mjr> (but I don't know if that particular thing can be made to work anyways)
[12:56] <rupan3> Unity: i'm not sure but try -xrm
[12:56] <Madpilot> caroline, this is a tech support channel - if you just want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:56] <SoulPropagation> hmm, well, i'm not experineced in *bsd, and it's just gonna be a lil fileserver for my school
[12:56] <zax1> its  model is md 3400
[12:56] <maxkelley> yeah, what mjr said is the best solution..
[12:56] <caroline> ? what what? whatever
[12:57] <xcc> how install deb from folder?
[12:57] <SoulPropagation> dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[12:57] <IdleOne> caroline:  this is a help channel if you wish to discuss other subjects besides Ubuntu linux then you can join #ubuntu-offtopic where you may chat about what you like
[12:57] <zax1> yes an ethernet modem would be better
[12:57] <xcc> SoulPropagation great thnx!
[12:57] <SoulPropagation> i love noobs. they have easy-to-answer questions
[12:57] <maxkelley> zax1: They're fairly cheap.. methinks :)
[12:57] <maxkelley> SoulPropagation: who doesn't :)
[12:57] <zax1> but... i am a system builder , and i want to start ship my machines with ubuntu.
[12:58] <zax1> the usb units are costing me much less
[12:58] <mikebot> hey, so, can someone help me via PM with dual booting my system?
[12:58] <SoulPropagation> maxkelley: you don't play games online do you
[12:58] <maxkelley> zax1: hire a coder :)
[12:58] <maxkelley> SoulPropagation: occasional bzflag, but no :)
[12:58] <riddlebox> can someone help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/575807
[12:58] <zax1> and part of the idea of using linux apart from the slavery issues to software companies, is the lower cost
[12:58] <Madpilot> mikebot, just ask here, you'll get better help
[12:58] <SoulPropagation> maxkelley: that explains it.
[12:58] <maxkelley> zax1: I understand your position
[12:58] <mikebot> okay well, it's kinda long, but...
[12:58] <mikebot> i tried to partition my drive like the tutorial said
[12:59] <maxkelley> riddlebox: I believe you have to apt-get install kernel-headers
[12:59] <mikebot> do i had: IDE1 master (hda) - 20.5 GB Maxtor
[12:59] <zax1> i know its beyond the scope of this channel, but how much would you say a coder will cost me? how big of a job is it ?
[12:59] <mikebot> *so
[12:59] <rupan3> mikebot: it should be pretty straight forward
[12:59] <mikebot> below that it said:
[12:59] <FliesLikeALap> zax1  it depends on the size of the job and what you want him to be doing and in what language
[12:59] <mikebot> #1 primary 20.5 GB (arrow here) (smiley here) NTFS
[12:59] <mikebot> below that it had:
[01:00] <mikebot> pri/log 8.2 MB FREE SPACE
[01:00] <mikebot> rupan3: yeah i know, but it didn't work
[01:00] <maxkelley> zax1: hehe.. you probably won't be able to find one  :)
[01:00] <riddlebox> maxkelley, I did apt-get install linux-headers-286?
[01:00] <SoulPropagation> zax1: you just want someone to set up a way to linux up a few custom boxes?
[01:00] <maxkelley> riddlebox: does it work now? :)
[01:00] <Jae686> 286?
[01:00] <riddlebox> maxkelley, no
[01:00] <purplefeltangel> HELP! krita keeps saying "error during autosave! partition full?" and then when i try to save it says THE SPECIFIED FOLDER DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS NOT READABLE
[01:00] <mikebot> so i went to the primary and tried to resize it and it didn't work
[01:00] <mikebot> it said it failed both times i tried to
[01:00] <zax1> i dont know, i am getting confused with all thisese lines boucing at me,
[01:00] <maxkelley> riddlebox: what system are you using this on?
[01:00] <zax1> i basiclay want to find a driver
[01:01] <maxkelley> zax1: who isn't? :)
[01:01] <amonkey> i just installed flight 4, but grub won't boot. it errors out 15: file not found. any ideas?
[01:01] <zax1> or a way for me to use the stock of usb modems i have
[01:01] <riddlebox> maxkelley, what do you mean?
[01:01] <zax1> instead of buying eth modems
[01:01] <IdleOne> purplefeltangel:  try #kubuntu they can help with krita
[01:01] <maxkelley> zax1: it's hard to find drivers sometimes.. a lot of more hardware should be supported in the next release. hopefully.
[01:01] <maxkelley> riddlebox: like, processor
[01:01] <purplefeltangel> idleone: already asked there nobody's answering.
[01:01] <Madpilot> amonkey, ask on #ubuntu+1 for Dapper stuff
[01:01] <alexwillmer> Does anyone knoww which software drives wiki.ubuntu.com?
[01:01] <rupan3> amonkey: your /boot is screwed
[01:01] <maxkelley> purplefeltangel: what was your question?
[01:02] <SoulPropagation> purplefeltangel: try re-saving
[01:02] <Madpilot> alexwillmer, MoinMoin is the wiki engine
[01:02] <riddlebox> AMD Athlon 2600
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> maxkelley:
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> ompaul sorush20, it is (A) old (B) there is big difference between a virus and a worm, #
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> ompaul
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> ompaul September 18, 2002 it died in a couple of days iirc
[01:02] <avu> hi
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> oops :S what was that?
[01:02] <zax1> right, so in your  opion how long of a job is it to write a linux driver for a usb modem, a basic interface-nothing fancy
[01:02] <mikebot> so in short it failed at partitioning my harddrive, is there another way i can get ubuntu to work?
[01:02] <ompaul> you pasteing
[01:02] <maxkelley> riddlebox: it shouldn't be 286 then..
[01:02] <maxkelley> zax1: it depends how locked up it is.
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> maxkelley: HELP! krita keeps saying "error during autosave! partition full?" and then when i try to save it says THE SPECIFIED FOLDER DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS NOT READABLE.
[01:02] <alexwillmer> Madpilot: thankyou, that makes sense with all the other python happenings
[01:02] <maxkelley> zax1: google for ndiswrapper... it sometimes has help with that.
[01:02] <zax1> how locked up ? what do u mean ?
[01:02] <riddlebox> maxkelley, it isnt
[01:02] <maxkelley> purplefeltangel: hmmm
[01:03] <maxkelley> zax1: how secured the manufacturer made it, as in how hard it is to figure out how the insides work.
[01:03] <maxkelley> IdleOne: nice try :)
[01:03] <avu> Part of my music collection is in "strange" formats like m4a, wmv or ogg, is there any program which conviniently converts these to mp3 while/before sending them to my USB mp3 player?
[01:03] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  just wanted to see if anybody caught it :P
[01:04] <maxkelley> IdleOne: I was going through it... thinking.. that's strange...
[01:04] <IdleOne> hahah
[01:04] <maxkelley> avu: google?
[01:04] <amonkey> avu, amarok now features that. atleast the svn version does
[01:04] <maxkelley> normally, chanserv gets pissed at you.. :)
[01:04] <Madpilot> avu, Audacity
[01:04] <mikebot> can you play mp3s in ubuntu if they are on an ntfs?
[01:05] <maxkelley> mikebot: mount the partition.
[01:05] <ompaul> maxkelley, or ops do when bad langauge is used, more so in this channel than anywhere else, we have this thing called the CoC
[01:05] <mikebot> maxkelley: i don't know how
[01:05] <maxkelley> ompaul: for what?
[01:05] <ompaul> its a code of conduct
[01:05] <maxkelley> mikebot: mkdir /media/ntfs
[01:05] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  you meant that chanserv gets angry and not ...
[01:05] <FlannelKing> ntiagntiagntiagntiagntiagntiag16:03 -!- console_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
[01:05] <maxkelley> mikebot: mount -t ntfs /dev/<drive> /media/ntfs
[01:05] <mikebot> maxkelley: i don't know what that means
[01:06] <ompaul> IdleOne, well put
[01:06] <FlannelKing> 16:03 -!- console_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
[01:06] <FlannelKing> 16:03 -!- console_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
[01:06] <FlannelKing> erm
[01:06] <maxkelley> mikebot: it's commands..
[01:06] <FlannelKing> oops
[01:06] <FlannelKing> 16:03 -!- console_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
[01:06] <mikebot> maxkelley: commands in what?
[01:06] <FlannelKing> ack
[01:06] <maxkelley> FlannelKing: you better be sorry!! :P
[01:06] <ompaul> FlannelKing, stop
[01:06] <maxkelley> mikebot: the terminal..
[01:06] <mikebot> maxkelley: what terminal?
[01:06] <zax1> maxkelly, that ndis looks very promising
[01:06] <zax1> thanks will investigate
[01:06] <FlannelKing> sorry, putty and fullscreen and trying to click to get back to non fullscreen ;)
[01:06] <maxkelley> zax1: good to be of any help
[01:07] <maxkelley> mikebot: Applications > accessories > terminal..
[01:07] <riddlebox> maxkelley, I just cannot get that to compile
[01:07] <maxkelley> you need to be root, first
[01:07] <mikebot> maxkelley: i'm not running ubuntu
[01:07] <maxkelley> mikebot: well why are you asking in here?
[01:07] <IdleOne> lmfao
[01:07] <maxkelley> someone bash it :)
[01:07] <IdleOne> !lart me
[01:07] <mikebot> maxkelley: because i'm trying to get the ubuntu instlal disc to partition my drive...i don't know where else i would ask for help on that
[01:07] <IdleOne> mikebot:  you can download it
[01:08] <IdleOne> www.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <Rob_Dude> I'm not sure if someone just asked this - but I need the path to the directory with the C header files that match my running Kernel...and I don't know what to do ;)
[01:08] <maxkelley> mikebot: erm.. so, what does listening to mp3's have to do with partitioning?
[01:08] <mikebot> IdleOne: i have the disc
[01:08] <purplefeltangel> mikebot: i partitioned my hard drive with the LiveCD.
[01:08] <mikebot> IdleOne: but when i rant he setup, it asked to aprtition a harddrive
[01:08] <mikebot> and i'm trying to do a dual boot thing
[01:08] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: i think it's something like.. /lib/modules/ something :)
[01:08] <h3ax> mmm
[01:08] <mikebot> purplefeltangel:  livecd, is that free?
[01:08] <purplefeltangel> mikebot: yes.
[01:08] <mikebot> purplefeltangel: /stable?
[01:08] <IdleOne> mikebot:  you have windows on that hd right?
[01:08] <mikebot> purplefeltangel: okay thanks
[01:09] <mikebot> IdleOne: yes
[01:09] <Morfosomo> mikebot, you have the install cd?
[01:09] <h3ax> how do i change the keyboard to become danish and keep the interface English/american or is that even possible ?
[01:09] <mikebot> Morfosomo: yes
[01:09] <IdleOne> mikebot:  when you get to the partitioning part choose use free space
[01:09] <maxkelley> mikebot: you should be able to create an extra partition with the extra space
[01:09] <avu> amonkey: thanks, I would like a sneak peak at 1.4 anyway, so I guess I will give it a try. Any idea if 1.4beta1 also features this already? It's not really clear to me from the changelogs.
[01:09] <mikebot> i only have 8.2 mb of free space
[01:09] <maxkelley> h3ax: you should be able too.
[01:09] <mikebot> it says
[01:09] <mikebot> and 20.5 gb of ntfs
[01:10] <Morfosomo> mikebot do you have any partitioning software in your original os?
[01:10] <mikebot> but my c: drive is only using like 12gb
[01:10] <maxkelley> mikebot: well, you won't be able to install ubuntu then :) unless you overwrite your windows partition.
[01:10] <IdleOne> mike4263:  you may want to consider archiving some of them mp3's onto cd to make some room
[01:10] <mikebot> i have partition magic somewhere
[01:10] <IdleOne> mikebot:
[01:10] <IdleOne> ^
[01:10] <sdquinn> Question.
[01:10] <wastrel> mikebot:  did you defragment your ntfs drive?
[01:10] <mikebot> IdleOne: all my mp3s and crap are on my other internal slave hdd
[01:10] <maxkelley> posh.. florida stole my IP block.
[01:10] <sdquinn> My ubuntu install, 5.10, cannot contact the CUPS server and thereinwhich cannot print.
[01:10] <mikebot> wastrel: no, it takes a long time
[01:10] <maxkelley> mikebot: if you want to get rid of windows, install ubuntu on the master
[01:10] <mikebot> maxkelley: no, i want to be able to use both
[01:11] <maxkelley> mikebot: you need to reformat your partition from within windows, I think.
[01:11] <HammerBlade2020> hunting momars
[01:11] <Morfosomo> mikebot,.. you got to make available at least 10gb of hard disk for your install,. can install on less but thats just a recomendation
[01:11] <wastrel> mikebot:  at least when i did it, in order to shrink my windows partition, i had to defrag the drive first
[01:11] <maxkelley> Morfosomo: I have about 5  :P
[01:11] <IdleOne> mikebot:  if you dont need windows then format it and install ubuntu
[01:11] <maxkelley> dejx: nice hostmask :)
[01:11] <maxkelley> IdleOne: he needs windoze.
[01:12] <luimus> Vaffanculo REX
[01:12] <mikebot> okay
[01:12] <mikebot> i'm going to try to find my partition magic
[01:12] <luimus> Vaffanculo Loz
[01:12] <mikebot> and then ask for more help
[01:12] <mikebot> brb
[01:12] <rupan3> mikebot: defrag, boot cd, partition, reboot.  boot windows, chkdisk, defrag, boot cd, partition, reboot.  until you have enough space
[01:12] <IdleOne> luimus:  please dont use that language
[01:12] <dejx> maxkelley, thank you, if you need, query me
[01:12] <mikebot> rupan3: haha that makes it sound very easy
[01:12] <caroline> where can i just chat?
[01:12] <mzinz> Whats the cmd to see info about my system?
[01:12] <maxkelley> dejx: nah.
[01:12] <maxkelley> caroline: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <luimus> I'm sorry cugliuniiii
[01:13] <Madpilot> caroline, type '/join #ubuntu-offtopic' without the quotes
[01:13] <Morfosomo> you could 1) use partition magic to resize your c drive and then use "use free space " during instalation" or 2) back up all your data,.. use the windows instalation to erase all formating and do a 10 gb drive and install there then use the ubuntu again to use freed space
[01:13] <eli> hello everyone, anyone familiar with sh installs? im about done with the installation, but it now asks for the location of the java files
[01:13] <maxkelley> caroline: or any other channel they don't mind having you chat.
[01:13] <dejx> we had this project in school about coding, and all names in my language was taken
[01:13] <luimus> Ciao eli!!
[01:13] <dejx> and coding.org, so i gave NULL on o
[01:13] <loz> does anybody know how to get the amazing x j l for ubunot, or how to install?
[01:13] <eli> hola luimis ;)
[01:13] <Madpilot> mzinz, which info do you want?
[01:14] <maxkelley> loz: Xgl you mean?
[01:14] <loz> is it poss to install xjl for ubuntu?
[01:14] <mzinz> Madpilot, like cpu, ram, etc
[01:14] <koloa> anyone know of a c compiler? apt-get????
[01:14] <eli> xgl, good stuff
[01:14] <koloa> i need to configure mysql and ruby
[01:14] <lscd> koke: gcc
[01:14] <lscd> koloa, even
[01:14] <loz> xgl makes me wet myself!
[01:14] <Madpilot> koloa, build-essential
[01:14] <Madpilot> !b-e
[01:14] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[01:14] <koloa> apt-get build0essential?
[01:14] <maxkelley> loz: I'm happy to hear that. Please look in synaptic.
[01:15] <loz> thx
[01:15] <Madpilot> mzinz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands <-- see the System Commands section
[01:15] <rupan3> mikebot: it should be pretty easy
[01:15] <loz> lol
[01:15] <rupan3> mikebot: unless something goes wrong ;)
[01:15] <Madpilot> koloa, build-essential
[01:15] <loz> we can't seem to install it
[01:15] <maxkelley> loz: how absolutely pleasant. may I get you a paper towel?
[01:15] <loz> yup
[01:15] <dejx> how do i disable root account?
[01:16] <dejx> sudo passwd -l root ?
[01:16] <rupan3> it's disabled by default
[01:16] <Madpilot> !tell dejx about root
[01:16] <maxkelley> loz: do you have the universe, multiverse, and restricted repositories enabled?
[01:16] <dejx> jea but i enabled it.
[01:16] <rupan3> oops
[01:16] <rupan3> hehe
[01:16] <maxkelley> dejx: since when was it disabled? I never knew that..
[01:16] <loz> no
[01:16] <maxkelley> loz: well then, enabled them :0
[01:16] <maxkelley> *enabled.
[01:16] <Madpilot> dejx, check the RootSudo wiki page, it's got disabling instructions
[01:16] <maxkelley> bah, you know what I mean.
[01:17] <bonbon> i am trying to mount a hard disk ide using things command :  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /mnt/new
[01:17] <bonbon>    it gives me thing error :mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/new busy
[01:17] <bonbon>  - i have formated the drive already (ext2) and it has stuff on it
[01:17] <maxkelley> why would you disable root? that's dumb..
[01:17] <loz> thx
[01:17] <IdleOne> !mount
[01:17] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:17] <dejx> maxkelley, i dont need it.
[01:17] <maxkelley> dejx: werd.
[01:17] <IdleOne> !tell maxkelley  about root
[01:17] <ompaul> dejx, okay you may have done that we don't encourage people to do that - sudo kjust works and enabling the root password has side effects
[01:17] <amphi> bonbon: you have a shell or something using /mnt/new ?
[01:18] <amphi> bonbon: mount with no args will show what's mounted and where
[01:18] <lscd>  maxkelley: disabling root isn't really dumb - osx does it by default as well
[01:18] <ompaul> maxkelley, it ain't weird, its how we do stuff in Ubuntu and it just works :)(
[01:18] <maxkelley> Madpilot: I'm so glad we know, now.
[01:18] <maxkelley> lscd: well, in that case, I'm dumb :)
[01:18] <ompaul> maxkelley, you just did not know that is all
[01:18] <Ubunter> I have the next error while booting, I guess thats why my net card isn't workin: <<<ne2k-pci: probe of 0000:00:0c failed with error -16>>>
[01:18] <Morg> Everyone: When someone wanders in here and has problem with their hardware, your first response shouldn't just be "Go buy new hardware."
[01:18] <dejx> jea
[01:18] <IdleOne> ompaul:  well put
[01:19] <dejx> i didnt know i can use user's password for sudo
[01:19] <IdleOne> heh
[01:19] <ompaul> IdleOne, I do try
[01:19] <lscd> Morg: will you offer to buy new hardware for them instead? ;)
[01:19] <ompaul> dejx, only the first user that is on the machine
[01:19] <blanky> hey guys
[01:19] <blanky> nevermind
[01:19] <Morg> lscd: Uhh, no, I'd either stfu or elaborate.
[01:19] <lscd> ompaul: not those in the wheel group?
[01:19] <blanky> is there an ubuntu development channel
[01:19] <IdleOne> blanky:  done ()
[01:20] <maxkelley> blanky: topic.
[01:20] <blanky> IdleOne, done?
[01:20] <anthony> !w32
[01:20] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, anthony
[01:20] <amphi> !w32codecs
[01:20] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:20] <IdleOne> blanky:  you said never mind
[01:20] <ompaul> lscd, not using wheel admin, and then it works, but it is all onthat page
[01:20] <anthony> amphi: thanks =)
[01:20] <bonbon> amphi: it doesnt say that hdb is mounted
[01:20] <uein> how to make a lilo CD boot ?
[01:21] <Morg> Twice now a friend of mine has come in here asking for help on his sound card. Twice he's just been told "go buy a cheap PCI card" and that's it. This doesn't help when you're trying to GET SOMEONE TO SWITCH.
[01:21] <freebse> hi, i got a problem with gcc4.0 ubuntu package (i guess it is broken)... it links wrong (manually edited that) and still not working, the only sollution I found is using the gcc4.0 from debian US
[01:21] <IdleOne> Morg:  who said that to him?
[01:21] <freebse> Morg: if it is an onboard chip it can not be supported at all, so this is only the trutrh not rude behavior
[01:22] <maxkelley> Morg: we're not a help desk really.. we're just volunteers, and ubuntu can't cover all hardware..
[01:22] <amphi> bonbon: hdb is a disk, not a partition
[01:22] <blanky> hey, I asked in #mono but no one's there, I want to know if monodevelop has any WYSIWYG, GLADE like editing for C# window applications
[01:22] <Morg> freebse: I have an onboard chip that works fine, thanks
[01:22] <freebse> in this case alsa does not cover this hardware...
[01:22] <maxkelley> freebse: me too:)
[01:22] <ompaul> Morg, different chips different machines
[01:22] <Morg> IdleOne: Seyekoh was the first one
[01:22] <optish> hi guys
[01:22] <ompaul> Morg, different chips same machine
[01:22] <Morg> ompaul: Yes. I was just pointing out that his assertion was wrong.
[01:22] <freebse> and Morg, I do too, but this is no gurantee that it works all the time
[01:22] <irvken> took an hour to install gaian, but sudo works now
[01:23] <irvken> again
[01:23] <irvken> going to take some getting used to though
[01:23] <IdleOne> Morg:  it's possible they tried to help him and couldnt get it working ..granted telling him to buy a cheap card may not have been the right answer but I dont think it was meant to be mean or anything
[01:23] <diGVargur> hello a litl help
 samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static -p conf.hub
[01:23] <diGVargur> [00:21]  <diGVargur> bash: /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static: No such file or directory
[01:23] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~$ sudo passwd -l root
[01:23] <dejx> Password changed.
[01:23] <diGVargur> why?
[01:23] <Unity> so many ppl pasting!
[01:23] <Morg> IdleOne: No, the first response to his question was simply "Seyekoh: $15 SBLive PCI card"
[01:23] <brenner> diGVargur: ./ not /.
[01:23] <maxkelley> diGVargur: please don't paste.
[01:24] <dejx> sorry !
[01:24] <irvken> right now to see if I get get all my old mepis files back
[01:24] <optish> is it possible with samba to have user level security but still have a share that is public that does not prompt for a username/password?
[01:24] <maxkelley> Morg: yes.. I hate when people do that. What exactly is the card?
[01:24] <ompaul> Morg, when it can't be done that is usually a fast solution that works,  if he wants to pay someone to code that particular card, but the card for a new user is usually the most cost effective way, in terms of their frustration and other peoples ability to help, by any chance did you get it working?
[01:24] <IdleOne> Morg:  well Im not the official Ubuntu anything but I apologise for that answer on behalf of everybody who is trying to help
[01:24] <freebse> IdleOne: exactly this is the case, b.t.w. if someone start bit''''g at ppl for not working hardware, this is only fair to tell him to get new one
[01:24] <Morg> maxkelley: Realtek ALC650 6 Ch with built-in HP amplifier Integrated APU
[01:24] <mikebot> okay, i got the ntfs down to only 12 gb, do i want to amke the new partition for ubuntu ntfs as well?
[01:24] <irvken> how do i upgrade firefox
[01:24] <dejx> network-admin is very cool, is anythink like that for console ?
[01:24] <alteroo> Does the ubuntu installer resize partitions non-destructively?
[01:24] <maxkelley> Morg: google it.
[01:24] <dejx> not-gui?
[01:24] <mikebot> and the 500mb swap one?
[01:24] <Morg> IdleOne: Well, thanks for letting me vent anyway. :)
[01:25] <wastrel> ubotu tell irvken about firefox1.5
[01:25] <maxkelley> mikebot: no...
[01:25] <DShepherd> Does the ubuntu installer resize partitions non-destructively?
[01:25] <maxkelley> mikebot: you can't.
[01:25] <mikebot> maxkelley: what do i want it fat32 or soemthing?
[01:25] <maxkelley> DShepherd: I don't believe so.
[01:25] <rupan3> DShepherd: it worked for me
[01:25] <maxkelley> mikebot: the default, ext3
[01:25] <IdleOne> Morg:  np dude but next time and I hope there isnt a next time come to #ubuntu-offtopic where the situation can be resolved in a quiter channel ()
[01:25] <rupan3> i still have a usable windows xp partition
[01:25] <maxkelley> rupan3: oh.. well then.
[01:25] <DShepherd> rupan3: what version of ubuntu were you using?
[01:26] <rupan3> until i get all the useful files off of it, that is
[01:26] <mikebot> maxkelley:  cluster size
[01:26] <rupan3> breezy
[01:26] <maxkelley> mikebot: eh?
[01:26] <freebse> whatever argghhh
[01:26] <DShepherd> maxkelley: have you ever tried?
[01:26] <ompaul> IdleOne, its only quite when your there, we all talk about you when your gone :)
[01:26] <maxkelley> DShepherd: well, um. I think so :P
[01:26] <IdleOne> freebse:  lets drop it and get back to helping ppl ()
[01:26] <mzinz> Is it normal that update-notifier, and notifier-ar take up nearly 45% of my resources sometimes?
[01:26] <DShepherd> rupan3: I wonder if dapper does it too?
[01:26] <IdleOne> ompaul:  I know
[01:26] <IdleOne> :p
[01:26] <maxkelley> hey svara
[01:26] <mzinz> Should I kill the processes?
[01:26] <mikebot> maxkelley: wait, so on my hd, i'm going to have 3 partitions, one ofr windows (ntfs), one for linux (ext3), and one for swap(ext3)?
[01:26] <DShepherd> maxkelley: you thinks so :-P
[01:26] <DShepherd> ?
[01:27] <Morg> IdleOne: Well, I wasn't just coming here to shout into my pillow. I was hoping the last person who made this kind of remake realized they were losing potential Linux converts.
[01:27] <maxkelley> mikebot: mkay :)
[01:27] <Prohibited> Hi, I use ubuntu to run my servers and stuff.. at times I can log in like text-based so it doesn't load any programs, Ic an just load what I need and it doesn't take up as much memory.. how do I do this again
[01:27] <rupan3> DShepherd: i just did a nuke and pave on my laptop, but on my desktop i partitioned off half of teh master drive and installed ubuntu on it
[01:27] <maxkelley> DShepherd: heeh, yeah ;)
[01:27] <Morg> *remark
[01:27] <mikebot> maxkelley: is that right?
[01:27] <freebse> IdleOne: ya well sorry but I know the whole story... anyway let's forget it
[01:27] <mzinz> How do you kill processes?
[01:27] <Rob_Dude> How can I see what kernel I'm running?
[01:27] <maxkelley> mikebot: whatever you want..
[01:27] <rupan3> the windows partition still boots, through GRUB
[01:27] <anthony> between mplayer and  vlc, which one(s) work [better]  with embedded wmv/quicktime/real files?
[01:27] <DShepherd> rupan3:  oh ok
[01:27] <amphi> Rob_Dude: uname -r
[01:27] <freebse> mzinz: ps -e and pick the prozess and kill (prozess-no)
[01:27] <irvken> wastrel, jeez that's a fair amount of work, can't I just use synaptic?
[01:27] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: uname -a
[01:27] <Rob_Dude> ty
[01:27] <wastrel> irvken:  not on breezy
[01:27] <rupan3> anthony: i like vlc for everything, but i don't really know mplayer too well
[01:28] <irvken> what is breezy?
[01:28] <mikebot> okay, let's see if this works
[01:28] <mzinz> freebse, is it strange that update-notifier and notifier-ar are taking up 45% of my resources?
[01:28] <lscd> i generally use mplayer; it can be quirky, but when it works, it tends to work well
[01:28] <wastrel> irvken:  the current stable version of ubuntu is code-named breezy badger
[01:28] <anthony> rupan3: okay, thank you
[01:28] <Prohibited> Someone help me- Hi, I use ubuntu to run my servers and stuff.. at times I can log in like text-based so it doesn't load any programs, Ic an just load what I need and it doesn't take up as much memory.. how do I do this again
[01:28] <maxkelley> irvken: the latest ubuntu ver (stable)
[01:28] <bonbon> amphi: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[01:28] <bonbon>        missing codepage or other error
[01:28] <bonbon>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:28] <bonbon>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:28] <navarone> mikebot if you are planning on sharing files between ubuntu and windows you may want to consider making a fat32 partition as well so you can do so
[01:28] <blanky> hey guys what's the one thing, hardlink? to make my stuff faster cuase ubuntu is FRICKIN SLOW
[01:28] <blanky> !hardlink
[01:28] <ubotu> blanky: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:28] <irvken> is that 5.10 ?
[01:28] <blanky> !hotlink
[01:28] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blanky
[01:28] <ompaul> bonbon, don't paste in the channel
[01:28] <freebse> mzinz: it is when not having a PI 133Mhz :)
[01:28] <amphi> bonbon: what is /dev/hdb1 ?
[01:28] <wastrel> Prohibited:  remove gdm maybe
[01:28] <irvken> I thought that was hoarry or hoarty or something
[01:29] <freebse> mzinz: but this can also be temporary
[01:29] <maxkelley> irvken: er. whatever :)
[01:29] <mikebot> fuck i have a bad feeling about this
[01:29] <maxkelley> bbl
[01:29] <wastrel> irvken:  hoary is the previous version, breezy is the current one.
[01:29] <mikebot> okay brb
[01:29] <ompaul> irvken, 5.10 is the latest release version
[01:29] <mikebot> has to reboot
[01:29] <rupan3> blanky: forget gnome and install xfce4
[01:29] <bonbon> amphi: my second hard disk
[01:29] <ompaul> mikebot, Language Please
[01:29] <uein> how to make a lilo CD boot ?
[01:29] <blanky> rupan3, lol thanks
[01:29] <blanky> i'll try kde though
[01:29] <irvken> ompaul, indeed that seemed to be the most uptodate version on the downloads section of the website
[01:30] <rupan3> blanky: rofl
[01:30] <mangelo> hios all, i got a quick questionioes, concerning (what i think) is windows domain controllers, and ubuntu
[01:30] <Rob_Dude> Geez...70mb for linux headers?
[01:30] <blanky> rupan3, :)
[01:30] <rupan3> blanky: gnome is too slow on your computer, and you're going to run KDE?
[01:30] <Rob_Dude> That's a lot of code :)
[01:30] <irvken> how do i know if it's breezy or hoary?
[01:30] <xcc> 2 troubles with fluxbox: libimlib2 not installed and cant find menu
[01:30] <blanky> hey guys what's the command in linux to run python, #!/bin/python ?
[01:30] <ompaul> blanky, in a script?
[01:31] <wastrel> irvken:  lsb_release -a
[01:31] <mjr> blanky, generally python resides in /usr/bin
[01:31] <blanky> rupan3, ubuntu is slow period, it's always been the same. I have a +2500 AMD Barton, 512MB DDR, 40 GBs, and an ATI 9800 Pro, might not be the latest but even windows runs faster
[01:31] <IdleOne> xcc:  right click on the desktop
[01:31] <irvken> oh right, I've got it
[01:31] <blanky> thanks mjr
[01:31] <irvken> breezy it is then
[01:31] <xcc> 2please help! i have troubles with fluxbox: libimlib2 not installed and cant find menu...
[01:31] <ompaul> blanky, /usr/bin/python -=-- you can find this with which python
[01:31] <rupan3> blanky: something's got to be wrong there
[01:31] <blanky> rupan3, at first I thought it was a vid card problem but it isn't, cuase my 3d programs run fine
[01:31] <mjr> blanky, though sometimes the trick #!/usr/bin/env python is used
[01:31] <irvken> I think I'll leave the firefox update to tomorrow
[01:31] <zipper> !dapper
[01:31] <mjr> blanky, (env searches for python in the path)
[01:31] <blanky> rupan3, please help me cuase I've been trying to fix this forever!
[01:31] <mzinz> freebse, haha.
[01:31] <blanky> thanks ompaul and mjr
[01:32] <irvken> 5 linux installs in one day to get a working one is enough for me, don't want to break it yet
[01:32] <blanky> rupan3, ?
[01:32] <ompaul> blanky, np
[01:32] <xcc> IdleOne, i do it )
[01:32] <Unity> irvken: how did that happen?
[01:32] <rupan3> blanky: i've been running xfce4 and my 2.4ghz fast as lightning with 512mb DDR on a 80 gig drive it shares half of with XP
[01:32] <IdleOne> xcc:  it work?
[01:33] <blanky> rupan3, exactly, and does GNOME or KDE run fine on your pc?
[01:33] <xcc> yes but flux box is not installin'
[01:33] <Unity> i like it when nerds feel the need to show off their hardware for no reason. "so i was writing my essay on my 3.8 GHZ 4 GIG RAM 500 GIG HDD"
[01:33] <rupan3> blanky: they run alright, but not impressively quick
[01:33] <blanky> exactly :'(
[01:33] <IdleOne> !fluxbox
[01:33] <ubotu> methinks fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:33] <rupan3> blanky: xfce runs like a crack dealer from the cops
[01:33] <irvken> I attempted to upgrade my 18 month old mepis install this morning and broke it to the point I caouldn't recover it, so I then atwice attempted to install the new version of mepis
[01:33] <blanky> so much for frickin linux being faster, oh well I'm not fighting, dont wanna start a fight :(
[01:34] <IdleOne> dinner time!
[01:34] <navarone> rupan3, yeah I find xfce pretty fast too...and I'm on a Athlon 1.2ghz w/512 ram...and it's not that hard to make it seem pretty much like gnome anyway <s>
[01:34] <blanky> rupan3, yeah but I thought that gnome or kde should run fine on such a pc
[01:34] <irvken> which is very buggy
[01:34] <rupan3> yeah it does run fine
[01:34] <mangelo> im using ubuntu (debian..kernel 2.6.xxx i forget exact numbers). and im setting up a server for a windows based lan (w/ an ubuntu box as the fserver)
 i can connect via putty, and ssh, but how do i configure the windows domain controllers (is that what i need to fix?) in order to have windows recognize it as a network drive
[01:34] <rupan3> blanky: do you have any swap set up?
[01:34] <irvken> after discussion with lilo no less (among others) I thought I'd give ubuntu a try
[01:34] <wastrel> blanky:  upgrading to firefox 1.5 will speed up your web browsing too.  the ff 1.0.7 in breezy is dog slow for some reason
[01:34] <flix> im using synaptic to install kdelibs4-dev, but it tells me "Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed", and then when I try to install that same error occurs for other packages... it never ends, how can I make synaptic download everything it needs to be downloaded so I can be set to download kdebase-dev package?
[01:34] <mzinz> Is it possible to make a ls -l to connect/disconnect my LAN / WLAN connections?
[01:34] <irvken> but the first time didn't work and this is the second
[01:35] <irvken> which seems ok
[01:35] <blanky> rupan3, like 500 mbs I think, or was it 1.5 gigs, how cna i check?
[01:35] <rupan3> navarone: with all the themes and stuff, my xfce looks way sicker than i could have made gnome look
[01:35] <Unity> irvken: you might have a hard time accidentally breaking ubuntu
[01:35] <dyrne> blanky, for faster less memory etc install xubuntu as alternative to gnome
[01:35] <rupan3> navarone: i've got it tricked out like a mexican lowrider
[01:35] <k31th> rupan3: well happy with this deskto p
[01:35] <blanky> wastrel, kay thanks
[01:35] <amphi> mangelo: you need samba
[01:35] <rupan3> k31th: good to hear it :)
[01:35] <blanky> dyrne, thanks sir, but I thought that with linux, with all the 'its fast!' buzz going around, I'd be able to run gnome or kde adequately
[01:35] <brenner> rupan3: screenshot?
[01:35] <navarone> ruapn I am not too concerned with the look really...I try to keep things a bit darker to save the eyes though...but no big transparency or other effects
[01:36] <navarone> rupan does it bounce at a button push? lol
[01:36] <wastrel> ubotu:  tell blanky about ff1.5
[01:36] <xcc> IdleOne, u undstnd me? i have fluxbox.deb only and which apt-get install libimlib2 i have no effect and dont find 'menu' for this manager
[01:36] <irvken> biab, just going to try and mount the old drive with all my files on it
[01:36] <k31th> blanky: go use windows ME thats alot faster than linux
[01:37] <amphi> blanky: on what hw?
[01:37] <blanky> k31th, you're right
[01:37] <Dagda> haha
[01:37] <k31th> no i was actually taking the piss
[01:37] <flix> please, anyone?
[01:37] <rupan3> navarone: it will once i can figure out how to stick luminocity on here and stay with my gtk/xfwm themes
[01:37] <ompaul> k31th, please
[01:37] <k31th> blanky: wat did u expect ?
[01:37] <blanky> amphi, +2500 AMD Barton, 512MB DDR, 40 GBs, ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128mb
[01:37] <flix> im using synaptic to install kdelibs4-dev, but it tells me "Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed", and then when I try to install that same error occurs for other packages... it never ends, how can I make synaptic download everything it needs to be downloaded so I can be set to download kdebase-dev package?
[01:37] <khafra> I just installed 64 bit Ubuntu, and have found that my MX 1000 stops responding randomly 'til I unplug and replug it.  Could this be a 64 specific driver issue?
[01:37] <blanky> at first I thought it was a vid card prob but i guess it aint
[01:37] <LiteHedded> how do you burn vob files in gnomebaker?
[01:37] <k31th> to be able to install linux on a slow machine and it to run fast
[01:37] <amphi> blanky: what's the problem?
[01:38] <xcc> IdleOne, maybe libraries in my ubuntu have some conflicts?
[01:38] <dyrne> blanky, on less than 512 mb ram i wouldnt use gnome or kde it would just frustrate me
[01:38] <khafra> And should I do the 32 bit chroot thing, or just install 32 bit ubuntu?
[01:38] <k31th> nlshould run fine
[01:38] <k31th> blanky: should run fine*
[01:38] <blanky> amphi, everything's too slow :'( I remember something about hardlink, or was it hotlink
[01:38] <Verithrax> Can't figure out how to get my mike working under Linux. The mixer says it's working and I can hear myself when I turn on the microphone, but it's not recording.
[01:38] <k31th> i do have a gig of ram tho
[01:38] <Tinbasher> anybody here good with kororaa?
[01:38] <blanky> k31th, yeah it should run fine, I have pretty big swap too, but it kinda isn't oh well
[01:38] <amphi> blanky: is something eating your processor? top would tell you
[01:38] <blanky> hmm letme check
[01:38] <rupan3> blanky: how much space did you slice out for you swap partition?
[01:39] <Installer36> flix make sure your repositories are upto date
[01:39] <mjr> Verithrax, is there a red cross on the mic picture in the gnome volume control thing?
[01:39] <k31th> blanky: try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:39] <blanky> k31th, for xfce?
[01:39] <k31th> yes
[01:39] <Tinbasher> got a prompt but can't get gui to boot up
[01:39] <blanky> rupan3, I think I got 1.5 gigs for my swap
[01:39] <flix> installer36, thank you
[01:39] <Verithrax> Nope.
[01:39] <xcc> somebody tell me date of kde4 release
[01:39] <amphi> blanky: dma is enabled on your hd?
[01:39] <k31th> blanky: tbh i couldnt live with less than a gig these days
[01:39] <Installer36> k31th can you do that with xfce if you have flux box
[01:40] <k31th> but iv ran X on far less
[01:40] <blanky> hey guys, I was thinking trying out KDE first to see if it was good, most likely wont stay with it but would it be pretty easy to uninstall/remove/purge? deborphan?
[01:40] <khafra> 64 bit vs. 32 bit Ubuntu:  Can it cause mouse issues?
[01:40] <blanky> k31th, some of us have less of an economic status
[01:40] <rupan3> blanky:
[01:40] <mjr> khafra, not really
[01:40] <rupan3> what i would do is make a separate partition for home
[01:40] <k31th> blanky: i can understand that
[01:40] <khafra> mjr: Damn. Then what could my problem with the MX 1000 stopping responding be?
[01:40] <rupan3> and then just reinstall when you want to try the different ubuntu flavors
[01:41] <k31th> Installer36: can you run xfce  and fluxbox ?
[01:41] <mjr> blanky, well, pretty easy, you could eg. remove some essential KDE library and have pretty much the whole kit'n'kaboodle go with it
[01:41] <varsendagger> hey can i physically install a new harddrive and then mmake part of it swap, or is that somthing that i needed to do at install?
[01:41] <blanky> mjr, okay thanks sir
[01:41] <blanky> thanks k31th to you too
[01:41] <anthony> how do i mount my dvd/cd-rom drive? (has something to do with the unhide option and /etc/fstab, but can't remember exactly what)
[01:41] <k31th> no worrys dude
[01:41] <Installer36> if i already have flux box can i sudo apt-get install xfce aalso
[01:41] <khafra> Would it be more trouble to do the 32 bit chroot thing for the programs that need it, or download and replace my 64 bit Ubuntu install with a 32 bit?
[01:41] <k31th> Installer36: of corse
[01:41] <bimberi> varsendagger: the former
[01:41] <rupan3> varsendagger: you can slice a chunk off for swap, sure.
[01:42] <amphi> blanky: did you find any process eating your cpu? what does uptime show your load average to be?
[01:42] <Installer36> Thanks
[01:42] <mjr> khafra, I'd do the chroot thing, but that's me
[01:42] <k31th> you can add a swap part anytime
[01:42] <mjr> khafra, in fact, I _have_ done the chroot thing
[01:42] <blanky> amphi, sorry never found the resource viewer
[01:42] <amphi> k31th: or file, for that matter
[01:42] <k31th> indeed
[01:42] <amphi> blanky: type uptime in a terminal
[01:42] <blanky> amphi, , nevermind I found it
[01:42] <khafra> Hehe, aright then.  I've never chrooted, so I'll do it for the experience, in  case I ever wanna Apache
[01:42] <amphi> blanky: or top
[01:43] <brenner> anthony: are you in console-mode? b/c gnome should automount your discs
[01:43] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[01:43] <blanky> amphi, nothing's really taking cycles away that much, but my java process is taking 298 mb of virtual memory
[01:44] <varsendagger> k31th, do i just format it and then go to fstab?
[01:44] <blanky> was, I closed limewire
[01:44] <amphi> blanky: what's your load average?
[01:44] <blanky> firefox is taking like 110.3 mb
[01:44] <k31th> varsendagger: ?? wat was the question ? are you trying to add a swap part ?
[01:44] <EnsignRedshirt> Do I need version 2.6.15 of the kernel to use PPTP to connect to a VPN?
[01:44] <blanky> wow not even windows, unless this is different
[01:44] <Rob_Dude> Grrrr
[01:44] <k31th> blanky: ff loves to eat ram
[01:44] <Artemis3> its the same in windows
[01:44] <anthony> brenner: i think i got it "mount /media/cdrom/" is what i did and it seems to  be  working, thanks =)
[01:44] <flix> installer36, you are the man!! Thank you, the repositories I had were for ubuntu 5.04 and not for 5.10,  I got them off ubuntuguide.org, which was a mistake because the info there is for 5.04, thank you again
[01:44] <amphi> blanky: ff is taking 'only' 237MB here ;(
[01:45] <Rob_Dude> So...if I were to download 70mb worth of Linux kernel headers using apt-get; where would I find those files?
[01:45] <blanky> amphi, lol
[01:45] <k31th> let me look here
[01:45] <blanky> I'm a try install KDE
[01:45] <Installer36> you welcome
[01:45] <Artemis3> just don't leave it open forever, with a session saver just close it and open it from time to time
[01:45] <brenner> Rob_Dude: dpkg  -L <package name>
[01:45] <Rob_Dude> Sweet
[01:46] <amphi> blanky: I have an ok cpu and 1.5GB ram on this laptop, but I still prefer lightweight window managers; openbox at the moment
[01:46] <k31th> 586mb of ram being used atm
[01:46] <blanky> openbox?
[01:46] <Rob_Dude> Hey, how would I make one of those 'virtual directories' or linked directories?
[01:46] <Rob_Dude> er, bah, I don't even know what it's called
[01:46] <Artemis3> 1,5gb in a laptop....
[01:46] <amphi> blanky: apt-cache show openbox
[01:46] <k31th> yeah...
[01:46] <blanky> LOL Artemis3 , i know
[01:46] <dyrne> blanky, thats like the ultimate in minimalism
[01:46] <amphi> Artemis3: it came with 512MB but I got 1GB upgrade
[01:47] <k31th> skills
[01:47] <Artemis3> which lightweight wm you like?
[01:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone familiar with connecting to a VPN with PPTP?
[01:47] <Razor-X`> Ratpoison forever! :D.
[01:47] <k31th> EnsignRedshirt: yes
[01:47] <Artemis3> hmm
[01:48] <EnsignRedshirt> k31th: OK, just wondering...
[01:48] <amphi> Artemis3: I use openbox ATM - I was using wmii, but it was buggy and slow, and now the devs have removed sloppy focus; I have openbox set up so I can do everything via keyboard anyway
[01:48] <k31th> EnsignRedshirt: are you connecting from linux there is a front end tool...
[01:48] <Artemis3> i like wmaker
[01:48] <k31th> pptpconfig iirc
[01:48] <k31th> its in apt as well iirc
[01:48] <Jae686> guys
[01:48] <Artemis3> ok, interesting
[01:49] <Jae686> how do i set a PATH on ubuntu ?
[01:49] <k31th> right bedtime, night all
[01:49] <Artemis3> for us with memory in the "megs" range
[01:49] <wastrel> Jae686:  path for what?
[01:49] <brenner> Rob_Dude: use ln -s?  i could be horribly wrong though
[01:50] <EnsignRedshirt> k31th: I have the package pptp-linux installed, but that does not give me pptpconfig.
[01:50] <amphi> Artemis3: I used wmaker a long while back
[01:50] <maxkelley> forwha?
[01:50] <Artemis3> i still like it..
[01:50] <amphi> Artemis3: yeah, it's a treat for me to finally have a large amount of ram
[01:50] <Jae686> for a dir
[01:50] <jmg> hey all
[01:51] <jmg> im having an issue with xv
[01:51] <Artemis3> hmm with that ram you could use e17 with all the bells and whistles
[01:51] <jmg> xvinfo shows an overlay device but it doesnt want to work
[01:51] <Jae686> i put it on /etc/profile, but it does not show on the "env" command
[01:51] <amphi> Artemis3: povray eats that ram quite well ;)
[01:52] <Artemis3> ah well, there is always that...
[01:52] <amphi> Artemis3: I'm not interested in wm eyecandy really
[01:52] <Verithrax> Ah, works  now.
[01:52] <Artemis3> and pc emulation
[01:52] <EnsignRedshirt> The VPN network that I am trying to connect has pretty simple instructions... for Win2K or XP.
[01:52] <Verithrax> People with VIA 82xx boards: The mike is connected to the capture device, not to the microphone one, for some reason.
[01:52] <amphi> Artemis3: yeah, I run sometimes 3 guest OSes under qemu
[01:52] <Artemis3> that explains it
[01:53] <wastrel> Jae686:  did you log out & back in again?
[01:53] <Jae686> Artemis3,  beware that e17 segfaults to hell and back
[01:53] <Jae686> wastrel, y
[01:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Jae686: ...at least is comes back :)
[01:54] <Jae686> most of the time
[01:54] <EnsignRedshirt> s/is/it/
[01:54] <Artemis3> amphi had plenty of memory for debugging ^^
[01:54] <cas> Does anyone knows a simple way to encode parts of a dvd to an avi/mpg?
[01:55] <cas> I have ripped the vob files, but can't find a video editor that can edit them.
[01:55] <rupan3> good question
[01:55] <Toma-> cas, use acidrip or dvdrip to extract them and encode them to an mpeg
[01:55] <mike-e_> 12  *  *  *  * ~/public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen <--will that run my shell script every 12 minutes or at the 12'th minute of every hour?
[01:56] <anthony> if the command for mount is mnt, what's the command for un-mounting?
[01:56] <Jae686> its a pitty that e17 is taking soo long
[01:56] <blanky> hey guys
[01:56] <blanky> how do you un-bz2 an archive
[01:56] <blanky> bunzip?
[01:56] <Jae686> if it came out "stable" a few years ago.....
[01:56] <cas> Toma-: but i still need to edit them, and it would save me days encode time if i could edit them before encoding
[01:56] <brenner> anthony: umount
[01:56] <mike-e_> bunzip2 file
[01:56] <avu> mike-e_: the latter. */12 instead of 12 would do the first
[01:56] <Madpilot> blanky, just double-click on it, the Archive Manager should open
[01:56] <avu> mike-e_: see man 5 crontab
[01:57] <anthony> brenner: what about stoppinga device?
[01:57] <mike-e_> ok thanks
[01:57] <amphi> Artemis3: heh
[01:57] <rupan3> blanky: tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2
[01:57] <brenner> anthony: stopping?
[01:57] <Toma-> cas encoding to mpeg doesnt take long. a vob is basically an encrypted mpeg anyway. all youre doing is removing the encryption...
[01:57] <anthony> brenner: yes, i'm trying to unmount my cd rom, it says it's busy, so i have to stop it first
[01:57] <Artemis3> needs more people developing, or maybe ebuntu should open some rewards ;)
[01:57] <Toma-> and mpeg is an uncompress format, so any video editor should be able to do it
[01:57] <amphi> cas: you can use mplayer -dumpstream and just dump what you want
[01:58] <khafra> Why does my Logitech MX1000 mouse just stop responding for no apparent reason every 3-5 minutes of use (doesn't happen when I'm away) and not start responding 'til I pull out the usb connector and put it in again?
[01:58] <brenner> anthony: it's not currently in use is it?
[01:58] <anthony> brenner: no it's not
[01:59] <brenner> anthony: in that case, if umount doesn't seem to be working. i'd just force it and do a 'sudo eject'
[01:59] <blanky> how do you un-tar an archive
[01:59] <amphi> anthony: something may be using the mount point as a working directory
[01:59] <blanky> tar xvf?
[01:59] <ttread> anthony you could try lsof | grep cdrom
[01:59] <amphi> blanky: tar.gz?
[01:59] <biloyp> what command do I use to see a list of processes
[01:59] <blanky> amphi, just .tar
[01:59] <ttread> it will tell you which app is tying it tup
[01:59] <amphi> blanky: yeah, tar xvf foo.tar
[01:59] <stingray|> biloyp, you could use "top" or "ps aux"
[01:59] <khafra> It's like I only have so many feet I can move the mouse before it dies, and I have to reset it.
[02:00] <amphi> blanky: the 'v' is just for verbose listing
[02:00] <blanky> yeah i know, thanks amphi
[02:00] <biloyp> thx stingray
[02:00] <anthony> it's wine acting up, trying to install world of warcraft throught he cd-rom, haha, now i have to change the installation cd
[02:00] <stingray|> np
[02:01] <Rob_Dude> Does WoW run with Wine?
[02:01] <SherckoM> hi hello
[02:01] <cas> Toma-, amphi: tnx i will try it, do you know a GUI video editor by any change?
[02:01] <anthony> i'm trying to get it to run, following the howto posted on ubuntu forum
[02:01] <Verithrax> Can I get KDE from the standard Ubuntu repos?
[02:02] <anthony> just trying to stop this damn device so i can eject my cd rom
[02:02] <SherckoM> :o
[02:02] <Rob_Dude> That's awesome.
[02:02] <amphi> cas: LIVES is a simple one, not overly useful I don't think, and there's cinelerra - I don't know of others
[02:02] <Madpilot> Verithrax, yes - install "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:02] <Rob_Dude> LoL, except the whole reason I installed Linux was to stop playing games all day
[02:02] <SherckoM> anyone has ran RAID HD's on linux 2.6 ?
[02:02] <Rob_Dude> ;)
[02:02] <SherckoM> liek me Rob_Dude xD
[02:02] <mike-e_> I'm trying to start a crontab that runs a shell script in a sub directory in a shell account of mine, for irc channel stats. the crontab needs to execute a binary however in the crontab file I specified */30  *  *  *  * /public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen - I get a cron mail to my account saying /public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen: not found - any ideas on how i can get it working?
[02:03] <stingray|> i installed linux just to play a lot of tuxracer =/
[02:03] <SherckoM> has anyone run SATA Raid disks on linux 2.6 ?
[02:03] <trooper00> i'm looking for an affordable laptop that will run linux without many major glitches. is the dell inspiron 6000 a good choice? anyone using this notebook?
[02:03] <cas> amphi: i will check them out, i was looking for cinerella but forgot the name and couldn't find it anywhere
[02:03] <Verithrax> Cool, thanks.
[02:03] <amphi> cas: 'cinelerra' I believe ;)
[02:03] <brenner> stingray|: is that still shareware?
[02:04] <Artemis3> used to be called broadcast...
[02:04] <amphi> Artemis3: what? cinelerra?
[02:04] <Artemis3> yes
[02:05] <elektronaut> hi everybody! i need a new kernel as i got some problem with vmware. already tried 2.6.15 which gave me a lot of trouble. i want to try 2.6.14. what do you advice: <IP_ADDRESS> or a patched 2.6.14 (ck9 or archck7)?
[02:05] <cas> amphi: cant find it in dapper
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> OK, so I ran the "vpn" script that I found in the ubuntu wiki, and it didn't report any errors.  How know it is working?  Sorry for the dumb question, but... how do I *use* a VPN?
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> s/How know/How do I know/
[02:05] <brenner> mike-e_: does /public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen actually exist?
[02:05] <elektronaut> oh yes, i'm using breezy.
[02:05] <mike-e_> brenner : yes
[02:05] <Rob_Dude> elektronaut:  I just finished installing VMware Server - what's the error you are getting?
[02:05] <amphi> cas: you could try an build it, but I suspect it's a pain
[02:06] <biloyp> xmule don't work so good....doesn't want to close..hcommand linead to kill it from
[02:06] <elektronaut> i have vmware workstation.
[02:06] <brenner> mike-e_: just checking
[02:06] <babo> I have a sed problem, I want the output of URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION=`php -r "echo rawurlencode('$URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION');"` to be assigned to my shell variable after being run through the sed command     sed 's/%0A%0D/%0A%0D/g'  ?
[02:06] <mike-e_> brenner: all it is is a script that runs the following command: ircstats ~/eggdrop/logs/chicagochat.log ircstats.cfg
[02:06] <Rob_Dude> (I'm a newb, but I thought you might be having the same issue)
[02:06] <babo> I seem to only be able to process sed in a file ... I want it in a shell variable
[02:06] <jj_> hello
[02:07] <stingray|> brenner, no idea, i was kidding
[02:07] <stingray|> havent played tuxracer for years
[02:07] <aridese> hi guys how do i convert from asf to mp3
[02:07] <matthew_w> Hey, is there something like Visual C++ for Linux?  Like, an GUI/IDE?
[02:07] <elektronaut> Rob_Dude: At first it worked.
[02:07] <matthew_w> s/an/a
[02:07] <wastrel> babo:  you can't run sed on a shell variable, you can however pipe input to sed.
[02:07] <Jsm> hi iv installed apache thru the package mangment and i need to knlow were it installs it
[02:07] <aridese> matthew_w, other than a text editor, noo... use VMware or Wine, or go back to windows if you want to develop
[02:07] <Verithrax> Does Dapper come with Firefox 1.5?
[02:07] <_jason> Verithrax: yes
[02:07] <blanky> matthew_w, monodevelop is looking a lot like it, then there's eclipse-sdk which I recommend
[02:07] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, nevermind - my fault
[02:07] <EnsignRedshirt> matthew_w: I haven't tried them, but check out anjuta or kdevelop.
[02:07] <babo> wastrel: but how do I store the sed output ?
[02:08] <jj_> need helping printing to a WIndows XP shared printer. tried everything I could
[02:08] <aridese> matthew_w, there's some half-assed shits like anjuta or eclipse, but you won't be happy with them
[02:08] <matthew_w> aridese; that's a bit depressing.  I heard Kdevelop was good.
[02:08] <Verithrax> Nice. I should consider early adoption.
[02:08] <blanky> aridese, leave if you won't be helping
[02:08] <amphi> blanky: wtf?
[02:08] <aridese> blanky, i'm not helping?
[02:08] <blanky> matthew_w, kdevelop is okay, anjuta I've heard some good things, eclipse is okay
[02:08] <Jsm> hi iv installed apache thru the package mangment and i need to knlow were it installs it
[02:08] <biloyp> college I went to stopped teaching C++ and switched to java teaching? is C++ dieing?
[02:08] <blanky> monodevelop might bring you closer to the msv.net if you're into .net
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jsm about lamp
[02:09] <aridese> matthew_w, just grab VMware workstation / player and install visual C++ and be done with it
[02:09] <elkbuntu> jsm /var/www
[02:09] <Jsm> ty
[02:09] <aridese> matthew_w, nothing beats the rel thing
[02:09] <blanky> biloyp, not really, people just think that Java is the next big thing, teachers are ignorant, they think C++ is old, and it is, but it's still widely used today
[02:09] <amphi> biloyp: hope so, ditto java
[02:09] <wastrel> babo:   FOO=`echo $BAR | sed 's/bar/foo/'`
[02:09] <matthew_w> aridese; that's ok.  I'm trying to stay away from the proprietary junk.  From what I've seen, there's always a better alternative.
[02:09] <wastrel> babo:  there are probably more elegant solutions, maybe ask in #bash
[02:10] <aridese> matthew_w, heh, check out kdevelop / monodevelop / anjuta / eclipse... you'll only be dissapointed, though
[02:10] <elektronaut> Rob_Dude: but then i wanted to give the vm access to an ubuntu partition. that resulted in vmware freeze.
[02:10] <matthew_w> s'ok.
[02:10] <varsendagger> k31th, yeah i am trying to add a swap partition
[02:10] <amphi> matthew_w: just use vim or emacs like everyone else ;)
[02:10] <biloyp> yeah I know it is used still..just was wondering....I tok 2 classes of C++ and my brain hurt
[02:10] <blanky> matthew_w, I still consider those being any better than emacs or vim, but of course it depends on how comfortable you are with what environment
[02:10] <biloyp> guess I wasn't cut out to be a programmer
[02:10] <matthew_w> I want something to spare me the grueling pig-work of doing int Main's and crappy X11 sizings for the gfx, etc.
[02:10] <Jsm> ok next thing were are the apache config files stored?
[02:10] <amphi> biloyp: that's a sign of sanity ;)
[02:11] <biloyp> amphi: haha
[02:11] <blanky> matthew_w, but aridese is right, nothing will beat the real thing, tis why I still use windows to develop
[02:11] <elektronaut> Rob_Dude: so i read in the forum that i should try it with another kernel
[02:11] <babo> wastrel: there is never anyone around in #bash, but I think that works ... thanks
[02:11] <phreak97> is the ubuntu loading screen at boot meant to have a moving progress bar?
[02:11] <phreak97> mine doesnt work
[02:11] <Syco54645> can anyone help me with setting up xorg with the nvidia drivers?  i try to run 1280x1024 and it just wont work, but before i use the nvidia drivers it works fine in that resolution
[02:11] <blanky> phreak97, how so
[02:11] <NCLife> my k3b dont want to start up
[02:11] <NCLife> how could i reinstall it?
[02:11] <aridese> blanky, or VMWare workstation -- what i use
[02:12] <amphi> biloyp: "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor and when was the last time you needed one?" ;)
[02:12] <blanky> phreak97, there's a usplash command that supposedly fixes it (fixed mine), though I don't remember
[02:12] <matthew_w> But you can't develop for Linux in Windows.
[02:12] <ACU> Good Evening ---- I need to configure a DUAL HEAD - ubuntu and I have terible time with it --- any GUI application which can do it ---- or any way to do it easy
[02:12] <phreak97> blanky, it comes up, the bar does nothing, then it goes back to text based
[02:12] <biloyp> amphi:   huh?
[02:12] <aridese> amphi, heh you don't need one :-P
[02:12] <amphi> aridese: I haven't yet ;)
[02:12] <blanky> phreak97, again, usplash, though I don't remember the exact command
[02:12] <navarone> amphi I try to stay away from anything that destroys privates...<s>
[02:12] <phreak97> blanky, where would i find it?
[02:12] <aridese> amphi, so it's not that complicated
[02:12] <ACU> Good Evening ---- I need to configure a DUAL HEAD - ubuntu and I have terible time with it
[02:13] <biloyp> amphi I don't know but can I put it in a bong and smoke it?
[02:13] <aridese> java = slow, vm'd language
[02:13] <elektronaut> nobody got advice on breezy either with <IP_ADDRESS> or 2.6.14 with patch ck or archck?
[02:13] <aridese> i don't know why they dont just teach C++ :-/
[02:13] <brenner> Syco54645: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[02:13] <AskHL> aridese, why do you think java is so slow?
[02:13] <blanky> phreak97, I dont know but I just ran it right now and it got messed up
[02:13] <aridese> AskHL, it's in a VM -- it'll be slower than a C++ countertype
[02:13] <Jsm> ok next thing were are the apache config files stored?
[02:13] <phreak97> lol..
[02:13] <amphi> biloyp: or a hint from one of the masters: "object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing."
[02:13] <AskHL> It has primitive types and stuff, it's not that bad
[02:14] <aridese> my god
[02:14] <aridese> are you people serious?
[02:14] <blanky> hmm?
[02:14] <aridese> OOP and C++ is bad?
[02:14] <aridese> what? what channel is this?
[02:14] <Klick_> hey all, can anyone help me figure out what happened to my wirless network, i followed a step by step on getting ipw2200 working, and it was working perfectly, now after i rebooted it all doesnt work, and i cant even remove the bad module that its loading automaticaly for some reason
[02:14] <blanky> no, who said
[02:14] <AskHL> You can compile it to machine code as well
[02:14] <BeOSMrX> hello friends, I have ubuntu 5.04 live cd. I need to accomplish this task, please tell me how. Create 1 100% partition on my new 250GB hdd.
[02:14] <biloyp> enough amphi....my brain is starting to hurt
[02:14] <brenner> #ubuntu-offtopic people
[02:14] <wastrel> please take C++/java war into #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:14] <aridese> wastrel, nothing stands in the way of a holy jihad :-P
[02:14] <Jsm> so can any one help me ?
[02:15] <blanky> Jsm, just ask your question
[02:15] <wastrel> aridese:  at least argue about something interesting then...  vi/emacs perhaps ;]
[02:15] <amphi> Jsm: /etc/apache might be a good place to start looking
[02:15] <Jsm> OK
[02:15] <aridese> wastrel, notepad > *
[02:15] <blanky> Jsm, search for 'httpd.conf' I believe
[02:15] <NCLife> i can start k3b only with sudo k3b from a terminal, and it seems it doesnt burn dvds well
[02:15] <EnsignRedshirt> Jsm: /etc/apache2
[02:15] <Syco54645> brenner: http://pastebin.com/575926
[02:15] <Syco54645> tehre it is
[02:15] <ACU> BeOS --- I do not know if ubuntu live has it but KNOPIX sure have it --- GPARTED or something like this allows you to both shrink or reformat any drive --- isprety culo
[02:15] <NCLife> should i reinstall it?
[02:15] <elektronaut> is anybody using a custom kernel with LVM in use? this seems to be troublesome.
[02:15] <blanky> !mp3
[02:15] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:15] <elkbuntu> BeOSMrX, unless you have like a gigabyte of ram, you're going to need a swap partition for comfortable computing
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> excuse me, I no nothing about computers and don't understand babble
[02:16] <wastrel> Klick_:  what is the rogue module you're having trouble with?
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> I just need to create one simple 1 100% partition, does NOT matter what type it is
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> from with in the live cd
[02:16] <Jsm> Found it ;) /etc/apache2 , opps some one told me that just after i looked away
[02:16] <amphi> BeOSMrX: Yes, how is their snake today, amphi? pants of the democracy of belarus with extra cream
[02:16] <aridese> BeOSMrX, sup homie, fire up fdisk
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> is this, a command line thing ?
[02:17] <brenner> Syco54645: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, and then type C, press enter twice
[02:17] <elkbuntu> BeOSMrX, that's not my point. you're going to need some of that 250gb as a seperate parition called a swap partition, which is like extra memory
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> so if I was to do this, I should learn how to use 'fdisk'
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, then t, 1, 86
[02:17] <Jae686> is there a CLI quide ?
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, then p, confirm
[02:17] <khafra> Why would gam_server take 320 megs of RAM?
[02:17] <amphi> BeOSMrX: cfdisk is a bit easier
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> well
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, then exit and save changes. ka ching
[02:17] <brenner> ubotu: tell Jae686 about cli
[02:17] <ACU> BeOSMrx --- just use GParted ---- in Knopix --- is straight forward --- and allows you to do anything you want --- when I shrink an existing partition on a laptop (do dual boot) it took like 3 hours
[02:17] <Syco54645> brenner: monitorrange: 31-70, 55-120
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, or you could use "parted"... it's in the start bard
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> okay which one, cfdisk of fdisk ?
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> what ?
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> I only have ubuntu 5.04
[02:18] <BeOSMrX> live cd
[02:18] <BeOSMrX> nothing else
[02:18] <aridese> BeOSMrX, ok buddy... command line you go, type, sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:18] <matthew_w> Hey I installed Anjuta
[02:18] <aridese> matthew_w, > : )
[02:18] <Jae686> thx BenC
[02:18] <aridese> matthew_w, i told you so
[02:18] <Jae686> erm
[02:18] <Jae686> brenner
[02:18] <matthew_w> and it's not quite what I meant.  It's a good C++ compiler with visuality
[02:18] <BeOSMrX> I also don't have internet aridese
[02:18] <anthony> Jae686: i find linuxcommand.org to be a very good CLI tutorial site
[02:18] <maxkelley> anjuta's a person.
[02:18] <matthew_w> But I meant something different.
[02:18] <Jae686> and btw
[02:18] <Jae686> how do we get anjuta to use crosscompilers?
[02:19] <aridese> we dont. get a Real IDE
[02:19] <rupan3> hehe
[02:19] <brenner> Syco54645: replace it with this: http://pastebin.com/575934
[02:19] <maxkelley> anjuta's not a person?
[02:19] <brenner> Syco54645: your monitor rates were really weird
[02:19] <buulian> does anyone know if you can just update from 5.10 to Dapper w/o completely reinstalling?
[02:19] <matthew_w> Like something where I can Draw a window, and it will write the code, so I don't have to do that horsework I've not done in like 3 years.
[02:19] <Jae686> real ide == ?
[02:19] <rupan3> my mom just called and i tried to sell her on installing ubuntu.
[02:19] <BeOSMrX> I've already booted the ubuntu 5.04 live cd, and thru the start menus i did not find an hdd partition utility
[02:19] <brenner> Jae686: no worries....and no idea on the 2nd question
[02:19] <ACU> OK ---- anyone knows to configure ubuntu for DUAL HEAD
[02:19] <brenner> buulian: yes, you can
[02:19] <Syco54645> brenner: well i will go and try this right now, if it doesnt work i will be back... if it does i will again be back (to thank you of course)
[02:19] <rupan3> BeOSMrX: gParted is the partition utility
[02:19] <maxkelley> ACU: Check the wiki
[02:20] <khafra> What's a normal amount of RAM for gam_server to use?  Doesn't seem like monitoring for file changes should take 320 megs.
[02:20] <buulian> would you suggest ubuntu for a Computer Science student?
[02:20] <rupan3> BeOSMrX: if you can't find it, try the find file utility
[02:20] <BeOSMrX> rupan3, where does that show in the start menu ?
[02:20] <matthew_w> Or
[02:20] <BeOSMrX> is there an image showing this ?
[02:20] <buulian> or should I just go Mac?
[02:20] <brenner> Syco54645: see you soon :)
[02:20] <BeOSMrX> I don't have a printer to remember this
[02:20] <aridese> buulian, try mac.. prettier interface
[02:20] <navarone> BeOSMrX, if it doesn't matter what partition type like you said why not just use a windows boot disk with fdisk?
[02:20] <amphi> buulian: I'd suggest debian or slackware
[02:20] <dejx> am
[02:20] <dejx> what's the package
[02:20] <matthew_w> BeOSMrX; open a terminal, by going accessories-terminal, and then type "gParted"
[02:20] <brenner> buulian: either is fine.
[02:20] <dejx> of C header files?
[02:21] <buulian> there's no real difference?
[02:21] <amphi> buulian: or netbsd
[02:21] <brenner> dejx: build-essential
[02:21] <BeOSMrX> great, matthew_w that will work. is it gui ?
[02:21] <ACU> buulian --- for a Computer Student ----- Debian is the way ---
[02:21] <wastrel> buulian:  you could always dual-boot
[02:21] <buulian> anything besides windows?
[02:21] <dejx> and where is that then?
[02:21] <brenner> buulian: you can always run ubuntu on your mac :)
[02:21] <wastrel> and as a CS student, unless you need a working system, LFS is the way to go ;]
[02:21] <dejx> ==/usr/src/linux/include
[02:21] <amphi> buulian: or plan 9 perhaps
[02:21] <BeOSMrX> and navarone, I ONLY have ubuntu 5.04 live cd, and microsoft is banned from my house
[02:21] <dejx> here isnt?
[02:21] <BenC> Jae686: for what? :)
[02:22] <Rob_Dude> dejx:  I had some troubles with that myself when I was installing vmware
[02:22] <ACU> buulian--- I am using Ubuntu in powerpc *right now ---
[02:22] <nbjayme> Can u play realmeadia without having to install the RealMedia player?  Also, is there a way to convert these files to ogg/mp3? I am under ubuntu-breezy.
[02:22] <warpzone> hey guys, having a strange problem with 'sudo'. when used, no error messages appear, but no commands are executed, including the GUI updater
[02:22] <navarone> BeOSMrX, I take it you are not at home now then?
[02:22] <dejx> rob yes i'm installing vmware
[02:22] <buulian> the thing is that i've got a really nice AMD laptop, and an Ipod- I don't know whether to change to linux or completely reinvest in mac hardware
[02:22] <dejx> and what did you do?
[02:22] <Alexi5> ubuntu king of all linux distros
[02:22] <ACU> nbjayme ---- is too much work ---- just install RealPlayer
[02:23] <BeOSMrX> navarone, I am at home
[02:23] <Rob_Dude> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[02:23] <nbjayme> ACU, ok. thanks.  ;)
[02:23] <navarone> BeOSMrX, I thought you had no internet?
[02:23] <wastrel> buulian:  if you have that kind of money to throw around, send me the AMD and get yourself a mac :]
[02:23] <rupan3> buulian: i'd definately try out ubuntu
[02:23] <BeOSMrX> I won't from my live cd
[02:23] <Rob_Dude> but after that I still had to use ln to get the path to match
[02:23] <BeOSMrX> i wont be needing it, so I won't install anything either
[02:23] <biloyp> FYI use amule instead of xmule
[02:23] <nbjayme> ACU, will it allow me to convert to other formats?
[02:23] <Jae686> BenC, its was a glitch from the nick completion feature from x-chat :P
[02:23] <warpzone> been using Ubuntu for a week and loving it. Just a couple things you need to adjust.
[02:24] <Jae686> well
[02:24] <Rob_Dude> It put the headers into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 instead of into /usr/src/linux
[02:24] <rupan3> i've been using it for a short time too, about two weeks
[02:24] <Alexi5> doesn't xmule and amule do the same thing
[02:24] <wastrel> warpzone:  you probably removed yourself from the admin group
[02:24] <Jae686> i use it since last year
[02:24] <rupan3> it's the first linux distro i really flipped on
[02:24] <biloyp> ALexis yeah but xmule wouldnt close in a gui environment
[02:24] <ACU> buulian ---- I have a laptop which dual boots UBuntu and Windows ---------that's tough -- I do not about conversion  I needed RealPlayer for streamcasts
[02:24] <Griff> it only took me 2 weeks for it to become my primary OS
[02:24] <biloyp> had to kill it from command line
[02:24] <warpzone> wastrel: what's the file to edit to enter myself back in?
[02:25] <rupan3> it's already got me combing my windows partition for stuff i want to save so i can pave it over and add more space to /home
[02:25] <wastrel> warpzone:  well you'd need to use sudo ;]
[02:25] <anthony> is there any reason that my ctrl +alt +f1 doesn't work anymore? =(
[02:25] <warpzone> wastrel: hahaha, I'll just use su, right, from the command line?
[02:25] <dejx> Thank you for information Rob_Dude
[02:26] <wastrel> warpzone:  you have a root password?  that works :]   typically you would use vigr to edit the /etc/groups file
[02:26] <rupan3> anthony: you can't get to a plain console login?
[02:26] <BeOSMrX> so, I will have to use this exact command from the terminal 'gParted' do I need to have a root terminal or just normal terminal ?
[02:26] <anthony> rupan3: nope
[02:26] <rupan3> BeOSMrX: run it with sudo
[02:26] <matthew_w> BeOSMrX; not sure
[02:26] <wastrel> warpzone:  you want to add yourself back to the adm group i believe.
[02:26] <rupan3> anthony: what's your desktop environment
[02:26] <Syco54645> brenner: well at least x got up again with the new config.  when at gdm the screen was too large for the monitor so it decided to scroll.  now in gnome my resolution is 1280x960.  this the the problem that i always have when using the nvidia drives.... what is up with them?
[02:26] <BeOSMrX> well the live cd has root terminal, and normal which one
[02:26] <warpzone> wastrel: I'll give it a shot, thanks a bunch man
[02:26] <wastrel> gl
[02:27] <anthony> rupan3: well only through shutting down xserver through ctrl + alt + backspace, but some times i don't want to shut down xserver; i am using gnome
[02:27] <raggi> yo, need a quick bit of help
[02:27] <raggi> can't find a usb drive that's coming up in dmesg
[02:27] <rupan3> i forget where it's located, but there is a gnome utility for setting hotkeys
[02:27] <amphi> raggi: /dev/sda1 is always worth a try ;)
[02:27] <BeOSMrX> Well, I WILL run it from the root terminal, since I had to run it with 'su'
[02:27] <rupan3> i'd first make sure that it isn't remapping those keys
[02:28] <sagarp> in bash, what does !~ do?
[02:28] <raggi> amphi: thx, i saww it say /dev/sda, but i wasn't sure, could see it on ls /dev
[02:28] <rupan3> !~ means "not home"
[02:28] <ubotu> rupan3: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:28] <rupan3> right?
[02:28] <Teecee_Home> I just installed ubuntu 5.10 on a IBM M51 and for some reason after the install my monitor says the input is not supported...How can I change the resolution without being able to see the screen after the ubuntu splash screen comes up
[02:28] <IceDC571> What's that one bootable cd and software that checks your memory? I'm trying to remember..
[02:28] <jimmyoz> #nacimiento
[02:28] <BeOSMrX> I will use this thanku for the help and suggestion http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[02:28] <IceDC571> Something with 95 in it, I think
[02:28] <succubus_-_> hey.. just wondering if this would be possible, and if so how. --on campus each student is designated a student drive that can be accessed anywhere on the network. i have it mapped on my Windows XP machine and i was looking to the the same with Ubuntu.. anyone?
[02:28] <brenner> Syco54645: sys>pref>screen res.
[02:28] <brenner> Syco54645: can you choose 1280x1024?
[02:28] <Syco54645> brenner: i did have it working once with the nvidia drivers.  but unfortunately i was on gentoo and then the drive crashed
[02:28] <Syco54645> brenner: no i cannot.
[02:29] <morphineinduced> hey is there a forum around here or do they only help people through the irc
[02:29] <brenner> Syco54645: having an ati card ... i'm deferring to nvidia owners. sorry. :-/
[02:29] <IceDC571> ..ah, memtest86
[02:29] <Toma-> !forum
[02:29] <ubotu> well, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:29] <sagarp> rupan3, but many folders are "not home", yet when i do echo !~ it prints out the same thing everytime
[02:29] <rupan3> succubus_-_: there's probably a howto on wiki.ubuntu.com on mounting network drives
[02:29] <Toma-> there you go morphineinduced
[02:29] <rupan3> sagarp: and what's that?
[02:29] <raggi> hmm, getting read errors now
[02:29] <raggi> :-/
[02:29] <Toma-> !wiki
[02:29] <morphineinduced> thanks
[02:29] <raggi> might explain it
[02:29] <Syco54645> brenner: well thankyou for the help.  i just dont understand what this drivers problem is
[02:29] <succubus_-_> rupan3, would i need to do something so that i can write to NTFS?
[02:30] <sagarp> rupan3, some command that i ran a long time ago
[02:30] <mike-e_> is it possible to make a crontab NOT send a mail to the user account?
[02:30] <Curtman> Can anyone tell me why when I try to mount one of my drives, it says "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/tunes/ busy", but it's not mounted?
[02:30] <LycoLoco> Anyone know of any programs to send iso files to an xbox for Linux/ubuntu?
[02:30] <Teecee_Home> Anyone know how I can change the resolution before the splash screen?
[02:30] <rupan3> succubus_-_: check the synaptic package manager.. search for ntfs.. but linux has a few compatibility issues with ntfs, you might want to read up on that first
[02:30] <brenner> Syco54645: now worries.  good luck
[02:30] <brenner> s/now/no
[02:30] <rupan3> succubus_-_: check teh wiki
[02:31] <wastrel> !~ eh
[02:31] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wastrel
[02:31] <succubus_-_> i'm checking now.. thanks.
[02:31] <brenner> Teecee_Home: i.e. before usplash?!
[02:31] <phreak97> ok, blanky is gone, but can anyone else help me? when i boot up my pc and it gets to the ubuntu loading screen (equivilent to the winxp loading screen) the loading bar doesnt do anything, in the bottom left it says "loading <something>" then goes back to text based loading progress until it gets into linux..
[02:31] <brenner> Teecee_Home: or before gdm?
[02:31] <Syco54645> brenner: well i know that i am not in the minority because a search for the problem on google will return alot of results
[02:31] <jimmyoz> hola
[02:31] <ttread> succubus_-_  the linux kernel can read from ntfs but can't write
[02:32] <Teecee_Home> brenner: before the brown ubunutu logo pops up telling about all the stuff it is processing, just before the screen that asks for your username and pword
[02:32] <rupan3> there's a tool or two that'll let you write to ntfs but you run the risk of corrupting your data
[02:32] <Teecee_Home> i see the splash screen, but as soon as it switches to the login screen I get input not supported on my monitor
[02:32] <rupan3> i know there's a tool to fix the ntfs partition before you mount it to windows so it doesn't destroy it, but i don't know how well it works
[02:32] <xanavim> how do I discover the device name of an SD card plugged into my usb port?
[02:33] <LycoLoco> Anyone know of any programs to send iso files to an xbox for Linux/Ubuntu?
[02:33] <succubus_-_> alright.. it's no biggy. not worth the risk
[02:33] <ubuntu> hehe
[02:33] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[02:33] <rupan3> succubus_-_: is your student drive ntfs?
[02:33] <phreak97> anyone else have a prolem with the brown ubuntu loading screen?
[02:33] <succubus_-_> rupan3, yes it is.
[02:33] <brenner> Teecee_Home: usplash = brown logo & scrolling text ... gdm = login.  i still don't get you.  where exactly do you want to change?
[02:34] <Curtman> Can anyone tell me why when I try to mount one of my drives, it says "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/tunes/ busy", but it's not mounted?
[02:34] <brenner> Teecee_Home: the order is: grub>usplash>gdm
[02:34] <phreak97> brenner, he needs to change his resolution/refresh rate down
[02:34] <Teecee_Home> brenner: I see the usplash,l but not the gdm
[02:34] <phreak97> it's too high for his monitor
[02:34] <Teecee_Home> gdm= input not supported on monitor
[02:35] <Teecee_Home> it is that way on my 19 and my dell 24"
[02:35] <xanavim> nevermind, I found it
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> Wow, this is wierd...
[02:35] <me> hell, its me
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> I've got Ubuntu running.  It runs everything I want and need
[02:35] <ubuntu> hi it's me
[02:35] <_jason> ubuntu: hi you
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> I've spent so much time trying to get linux setup...that now I don't know what to do
[02:35] <phreak97> Teecee_Home, i dont know how to do it properly, but you could plug in another monitor then chane the settings down then plug that one back in
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> It's like, what's my purpose?  Where do I go from here.
[02:35] <brenner> Teecee_Home: do you see a blue screen and get dumped to console-mode?
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> I'm scared...but excited.
[02:35] <bimberi> Curtman: Is something else mounted to that directory?  If not, Is there a shell with the current working directory of /media/tunes?
[02:36] <Curtman> bimberi: Nope.  It does it after a reboot, even if I boot into single user mode.
[02:36] <Teecee_Home> brenner: no. I see a black screen with "Input Not Supported" bouncing around directly after usplash is done
[02:36] <_jason> Curtman: have you tried mounting to a different directory?
[02:36] <Curtman> _jason, Yep.
[02:36] <ubuntu> Is Ubuntu run safty ? I didn't install any virus-protecter .
[02:36] <Teecee_Home> phreak97: I have 4 monitors, 3 dell 24" and 1 19"
[02:37] <phreak97> brenner, the not supported is displayed by his monitor because the display ubuntu is giving it is outside its specs
[02:37] <freebse> is the gcc 4.0 pakage broken in uuntu
[02:37] <FlannelKing> Teecee_Home: have you tried switching into a terminal? (ctrl-alt-f1)?
[02:37] <_jason> !linuxvirus
[02:37] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:37] <Curtman> _jason: I took the drive out and put it in another box, (gentoo) and it mounts fine.  Put it back in this one, and it just won't mount.
[02:37] <phreak97> Teecee_Home, ever used any of those in your ubuntu machine?
[02:37] <Teecee_Home> FlannelKing: which will be grub >?
[02:37] <brenner> Teecee_Home: phreak97 seems to know what's going on more than me. :-/
[02:37] <afonit> I did in the terminal gconf, that that did not bring up gconf, how do I get into gconf?
[02:37] <freebse> it is broken on every installation I did on every client we got here
[02:37] <FlannelKing> Teecee_Home: no, bash.  Wait for it to go "input not supported" then switch to a terminal.
[02:38] <brenner> Teecee_Home: but i suggest booting into recovery mopde and reconfigging xorg
[02:38] <Teecee_Home> ok there
[02:38] <warpzone> this is going to sound pretty dumb, but does anybody know where I can find a manual for 'vigr'? I have no clue how to use it
[02:38] <Teecee_Home> FlannelKing: I am there now
[02:38] <navarone> phreak97,  I found this thread (about Suse actually) that may shed some light on Teecee_Home 's prob  http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread27341-1.html
[02:38] <FlannelKing> Teecee_Home: now you just have to log in, then change your resolution.  I don't know how, but, that's the easy part.  There are tutorials and stuff.
[02:38] <_jason> Curtman: well if you are positive it isn't getting mounted elsewhere ('mount' command) I don't know what else to check
[02:39] <Teecee_Home> FlannelKing: thanks boss, I appreciate it
[02:39] <Curtman> _jason, Damn..  Neither do I.  That's why I came here.  :(
[02:39] <_jason> warpzone: 'man vigr'?
[02:39] <afonit> how does one access gconf?
[02:39] <phreak97> navarone, similar issue, but not exactly the same
[02:39] <_jason> Curtman: don't worry there are a lot of smarter people than me around, just ask again in a bit
[02:39] <brenner> _jason: interesting read.  good to know we're a hard target
[02:39] <warpzone> _jason: lol, I meant like, how to edit lines in vigr? man doesnt do much for it
[02:39] <navarone> Teecee_Home, are you using a lcd screen? They say lcd's require lower refresh rates than crt's...maybe you need to lower refresh rate
[02:39] <_jason> warpzone: what editor are you using?
[02:39] <phreak97> doesn anyone know how to change the gnome desktop resolution and monitor refresh via console?
[02:39] <bimberi> Curtman: an existing line in /etc/fstab getting in the way? (guessing)
[02:40] <Teecee_Home> navarone: yes I am
[02:40] <afonit> got it, it is gconf-editor
[02:40] <warpzone> _jason: trying to edit the groups using vigr
[02:40] <brenner> !fixres
[02:40] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:40] <brenner> phreak97, Teecee_Home : see above
[02:40] <Teecee_Home> already there, ty guys
[02:40] <Curtman> bimberi: in fstab, I have: "/dev/hdb1       /media/tunes    ext3    defaults        0       2", like it should be.  It used to mount fine.
[02:40] <GeorgeAScott> when i type make after ./configuring a program it tells me no targets are specified and no make file found.
[02:40] <_jason> warpzone: readlink -f $(which editor)
[02:41] <warpzone> _jason: thanks!
[02:41] <phreak97> alright, anyone want to help my problem now? :P\
[02:41] <jimcooncat> phreak97, i missed it
[02:41] <_jason> warpzone: ? that just tells you the editor (I think)
[02:41] <phreak97> jimcooncat, the progress bar on my brown ubuntu startup screen does nothing
[02:41] <bimberi> Curtman: does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' list the partition?
[02:41] <jimcooncat> when first booting, or after login?
[02:42] <phreak97> while booting
[02:42] <brenner> this is weird...opening a link via right-click open in new tab in xchat opens the link in a new window w/ ff1.5
[02:42] <Mrono> hey guys
[02:42] <koloa> anyone know what lmysqlclient is?
[02:42] <koloa> i think i need it
[02:42] <Mrono> I know this is the ubuntu channel but mabye someone can help me
[02:42] <Curtman> bimberi: Yep.. It says "/dev/hdb1               1      155127    78183976+  83  Linux"
[02:42] <_jason> warpzone: my guess is you are using vi
[02:42] <brenner> GeorgeAScott: what are you attempting to insatll?
[02:42] <jimcooncat> dunno phreak97, but you can turn it off in grub and see just text
[02:42] <phreak97> jimcooncat, how so?
[02:42] <wastrel> brenner:  check  settings -> advanced -> url handlers   in xchat
[02:43] <GeorgeAScott> banshee 0.10.6
[02:43] <Mrono> i'm running kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5.1 and I just installed my ubuntu ati drivers, now when I boot up and log in it freezes as soon as it loads, any ideas?
[02:43] <Curtman> bimberi: And 'lsof /dev/hdb1', and 'lsof /media/tunes' return nothing at all.
[02:43] <phreak97> how do i get into grub settings?
[02:43] <brenner> wastrel: what should i be looking for?
[02:43] <warpzone> _jason oooo gotcha, thought vigr was different from vi
[02:43] <jimcooncat> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:43] <brenner> wastrel: !firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-tab)' lloks right to me...
[02:44] <_jason> warpzone: it uses whatever editor you tell it to
[02:44] <Syco54645> brenner: would this line help at all do you think? Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062
[02:44] <brenner> GeorgeAScott: i'm assuming you're not happy with the repo version?
[02:44] <bimberi> Curtman: 'lsof | grep /media/tunes' ?
[02:45] <FlannelKing> How does one list channels in irssi?  (what raw command gets the server to send me a list?)
[02:45] <jimcooncat> phreak97, I'm pretty sure you remove the "splash" from the kernel entries
[02:45] <GeorgeAScott> not really brenner.....
[02:45] <brenner> Syco54645: that's your modelin?  yes.  that is weird
[02:45] <Alexi5> ubuntu on my pc for 3-1/2 weeks now
[02:45] <jimcooncat> but not poistive
[02:45] <Alexi5> and no reboot
[02:45] <brenner> Syco54645: it should be Modeline "res" "res" "res"
[02:45] <pianoboy3333> Can I get some ATI help? (Dapper) No one is helping on #ubuntu+1...
[02:45] <Curtman> bimberi: Nothing.  There's no way that's the problem if it does it in single user mode.
[02:45] <Alexi5> can you guys check out a web application for me and tell me what you think
[02:45] <Syco54645> brenner: well no i just used an online modeline generator.  i am shooting in the dark when it comes to x
[02:46] <_jason> warpzone: apparently it just goes straight to vi if you don't have EDITOR set, you can do something like 'EDITOR=nano sudo vigr' to use nano.  Or just learn vi, it's great :)