[00:00] <bastidrazor> phong_: ubuntu doesn't have a root password.
[00:00] <kolten> I am trying to see if Ubuntu or any other Linux for that matter may have been the cause for my hacked Yahoo account.
[00:00] <xangua> !root | phong_
[00:00] <escott> phong_, ubuntu doesn't have a root password. you can set one (not recommended) by using sudo passwd
[00:00] <kolten> Sometimes sudo does not work.
[00:00] <kolten> Try SU.
[00:00] <Jordan_U> kolten: I doubt it very much.
[00:00] <bastidrazor> escott: if its not recommended.. then don't recommend it.
[00:00] <phong_> escott, the one always ask me when i install or sudo something..i want to change that one
[00:00] <Jordan_U> kolten: When does sudo "not work"?
[00:00] <Zelozelos> phong_ thats your user password
[00:01] <escott> phong_, sudo somecommand asks for the users password
[00:01] <phong_> well, how can i change it.
[00:01] <Snicers-Work3> kolten, Sudo always works as long as the password is right and you are part of the sudoers file.
[00:01] <Zelozelos> phong user account settings
[00:01] <escott> phong_, passwd from the terminal (i'm sure there is a gui as well)
[00:01] <phong_> i want to know with command
[00:01] <Minnen> anyone know a good IRC channel for GGambas?
[00:01] <kolten> I had tried to use sudo to install a package before and it could not be used, had to be from the actuall root.
[00:01] <phong_> oho kay
[00:01] <Minnen> *Gambas
[00:01] <Snicers-Work3> kolten, What package?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> phong_: *NOT* "sudo passwd", just "passwd".
[00:02] <phong_> ok
[00:02] <kolten> I dunno, was a long time ago, and I do not remember if it was for a package or to friggin try to change one of the many fucking text commands in the terminal.
[00:02] <Jordan_U> !lanugage | kolten
[00:02] <Jordan_U> !language | kolten
[00:03] <Ziber> Using ubuntu 10.10, trying to have extended desktop on a laptop with an external monitor. How would I do that?
[00:03] <phong_> thanks, i got it.
[00:04] <kolten> Not to be frank, but I was quite aggrevated with Ubuntu and Linux all together, you download one thing, have to go hunting for hours on end for that one particular driver or the end to some long text command that is a bunch of crap from the get go anyhow, and then these package repositories are never updated to the next release of ubuntu!!!
[00:04] <kolten> That is why I am cursing!!! User-friendly my behind!!!
[00:05] <Zelozelos> ziber goto prefs, monitors, it will detect any moniters connected, otherwise it prob wont, u should be able to get it from there
[00:05] <Jordan_U> kolten: This is not the place to swear or rant.
[00:06] <Zelozelos> kolten why dont you design write, compile, debug, test debug, test your own linux os then
[00:06] <aeon-ltd> kolten: one day compatibility will get better, or firms will start producing drivers and maintain repos for linux users
[00:06] <aeon-ltd> *more firms
[00:06] <kolten> That is why I use PC BSD, its simple, easy, supposedly safe, and thier repositories are actually updated, and if there is a program that does not download correctly at first, it remedies itself and can be downloaded an hour or so later.
[00:06] <jahman> mike are you in there
[00:07] <kolten> Are you kidding, I am a Windows user, I am used to Windows and its ease of use, and I come to expect that from any os that calls itself "user-friendly."
[00:07] <kolten> I do not have time to Sudo this or CC that.
[00:07] <Zelozelos> kolten why did u try ubuntu then?
[00:08] <Snicers-Work3> kolten, Ubuntu is fairly user friendly, you just have to get used to something a little different.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> kolten: This is your last warning. Please stick to Ubuntu support questions.
[00:08] <qin> kolten: Awesome, but offtopic
[00:08] <Jordan_U> kolten: Or discuss other things in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:08] <kolten> Because I Thought I would get something descent so I could stay off of Microdunce's payroll sheet!!!
[00:08] <Travis-42> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 fresh to a brand new hard drive, but now the computer won't boot at all. it may have something to do with the multiple hard drives I have. How can I troubleshoot this?
[00:08] <kolten> THAT IS WHY!!!!
[00:09] <dijonyummy> is there any better file manager than nautilus or dolphin in linux? i miss some things for instance, in windows, if some app, if you open some file you get the system dialog box where you can select a file, but also you can delete files too, then select the file you want, cuz the app is using the system functionality to select but miss that behavior.
[00:09] <sw0rn> How do you mount a hard drive as read/write?
[00:09] <Zelozelos> kolten go with 10.10, its very "user friendly" and come here if someting dont work right. or try a diff flavor of linux, theres lots of them out ther i hear debian is the most stable
[00:09] <|Slacker|> dijonyummy, midnight commander :p
[00:10] <dijonyummy> man i really dont like what ubunutus done with the right scroll bar, its weird, hard to use, and now cant "page" down or up anymore
[00:10] <escott> Travis-42, how far is it getting in the boot process
[00:11] <Travis-42> escott, it doesn't appear to be loading grub
[00:11] <dijonyummy> slacker: is midnight commander a slam dunk better, or are all those 3 about the same just each has different pros/cons?
[00:11] <escott> sw0rn, mount -o rw
[00:11] <Snicers-Work3> dijonyummy, Submit a ticket about the inability to page up and down
[00:11] <Travis-42> escott, basically, bios then hang
[00:11] <|Slacker|> dijonyummy, midnight commander is console stuff...prolly ubuntu doesn't even ship this
[00:11] <dijonyummy> the gui designers should already know that, if not they suck
[00:11] <Zelozelos> kolten just so you know, linux is not like ms anything, ms is also re-designed for specific types/brands of machines, ubuntu has a few diff between desktop and other typs, but what im realy talking about is specificly desiging it for your machine,,,theres billions of them out there...so you have 2 expect to do some work to get it all to gether...its worth it in the end
[00:11] <escott> Travis-42, is it not finding a grub? or is it finding the wrong one?
[00:12] <Zelozelos> oh hehe he left
[00:12] <|Slacker|> in fact I didnt get your idea dijonyummy
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Travis-42: You probably just aren't booting from the drive that grub was installed to. Try removing the other drives, changing the boot order untill you've tried all of them, or installing grub to all of them.
[00:12] <Travis-42> escott, not finding any
[00:12] <Travis-42> Jordan_U, I have the new hard drive that I installed Ubuntu to as the primary hard drive... how can I get grub installed to that one?
[00:12] <Minnen> #Gambas IRC channel is lacking of ppl, if there is any programmer on pls join if u like :)
[00:12] <escott> !grub | Travis-42
[00:13] <Jordan_U> Minnen: This is not the place to advertise your particular IRC channel. Please don't do it again.
[00:13] <Minnen> i appologise
[00:13] <Minnen> didnt mean to spam
[00:13] <jahman> yu di dey mshuhes
[00:14] <[V13]Axel> Has anyone had any sort of success using an ATI card and an NVIDIA card together on Ubuntu? I know the cards are physically compatible, because the setup works fine in Windows... But the only thing keeping me from using Ubuntu is the fact that my fourth monitor(Second monitor on PC2) is not working. Anyone know how to help?
[00:14] <Travis-42> ok.. this is odd, how do I get into the live session? I downloaded and burned Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit to a CD, but there is no "try ubuntu" option. is that new/normal?
[00:14] <Jordan_U> Travis-42: The option will be presented later in boot.
[00:15] <Travis-42> Jordan_U, when exactly?
[00:15] <KM0201> Travis-42: when you installed, did you actually install from from a live session? or did you use the "install inside windows" option?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> Travis-42: After X has started.
[00:16] <Travis-42> KM0201, neither, I choose "Install Ubuntu" from the CD
[00:16] <Travis-42> Jordan_U, hmm, X doesn't start for me. Maybe I downloaded the wrong cd
[00:16] <[V13]Axel> Can anyone help me with my above question?
[00:16] <KM0201> Travis-42: so. (again, just to be clear).. you inserted the CD.. and rebooted, let the CD boot, and got a option to "install ubuntu"
[00:16] <Travis-42> ah yup crap, I downloaded the alternate one, not the desktop one
[00:16] <Jordan_U> Travis-42: Did you download the "Alternate" install CD?
[00:16] <KM0201> ..
[00:17] <Travis-42> It's been a long time since I've installed rather than just upgraded ubuntu
[00:17] <Travis-42> sorry
[00:17] <KM0201> lol
[00:17] <revilodraw> hi guys, i've been in the forums and nothing is working for me, i'm using 11.04 and since my last update, no sound at all
[00:17] <xangua> Travis-42: you can install & upgrade from alternate
[00:18] <Travis-42> xangua, yea, I did, but the grub is messed up, so I need to boot into a live session
[00:18] <Zelozelos> anyone know how to get screenshots to work when i hit my print screen?
[00:18] <Zelozelos> in 11.04
[00:18] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: go into gimp and paste thenm
[00:18] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, is it putting the screenshot on the clipboard?
[00:19] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: when i hit my screenshot button it asks me where to save it or if i'd like to copy it to clipboard. does yours not do that?
[00:19] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, r u using 11.04? my print screen button is doing nothin
[00:20] <minashokry> Hello, when starting ubuntu and at login screen, I get a message "The configuration defaults of GNOME power manager have not been installed correctly, please contact system administrator" and after entering username and password, gnome logs out before completing the login, ....... any help?
[00:20] <Travis-42> well able to boot with the original grub install, that's good enough
[00:20] <kaushal> Hi
[00:20] <Travis-42> no reason the alternate install should be different in any other way, right?
[00:20] <kaushal> I have cleared squid cache in squid. I am still unable to reach the global ubuntu mirror. is there a way to know where does squid deb proxy resides  in LAN ? I have restarted shorewall and squid services in gateway. still no luck
[00:20] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: yeah, im using 11.04. ok, well that is difficult. try to find the command for screenshotting, then check the prtscr key is mapped to that command?
[00:20] <[V13]Axel> Has anyone ever had any success at running an ATI and an NVIDIA card simultaneously?
[00:21] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, how do i change the keymap to that button?
[00:21] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: in the meantime try this http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/three-ways-to-capture-screenshot-in-ubuntu-linux/
[00:21] <rcconf> hello
[00:22] <minashokry> Hello, when starting ubuntu and at login screen, I get a message "The configuration defaults of GNOME power manager have not been installed correctly, please contact system administrator" and after entering username and password, gnome logs out before completing the login, ....... any help?
[00:22] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, I don't think that is possible.
[00:22] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts, and set 'take a screenshot' to 'print'
[00:22] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, the other ways work just fine, just not the print-screen button
[00:23] <[V13]Axel> Snicers-Work3: I know for a fact it is; I can get them working on the Window Maker window manager, but without the ability to do much or 3D acceleration.
[00:24] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: did u try the keyboard shortcuts suggestion?
[00:24] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, How does that work on the hardware side? Both drivers would have to be installed.
[00:24] <escott> [V13]Axel, the problem is which libgl would you use
[00:24] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, ok i tried that, it was set to print but i re-did it it still dosent work
[00:24] <revilodraw> [V13]Axel: you're a madman
[00:24] <[V13]Axel> Snicers-Work3: I have no idea-- It was working using Xinerama for a while, but that's only on the Window Maker manager.
[00:24] <[V13]Axel> escott: Oh?
[00:25] <[V13]Axel> revilodraw: Most would agree.
[00:25] <escott> [V13]Axel, you have to pick one, and then what happens when you drag your gl drawn window from the nvidia managed displays to the ati attached...
[00:25] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: is it an old laptop? maybe the button is dead. try linking it to another button you never use, like "home pause" or some such nonsense
[00:25] <[V13]Axel> escott: Why can they not work in harmony with one another, passing graphical information back and forth? I've seen it done before, I just don't know how to do it.
[00:26] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, i did still no dice, im adding a new command for it now maybe itll work
[00:26] <revilodraw> [V13]Axel: why would you want to use two graphics cards at once? on two monitors?
[00:26] <CarlFK> HarryS:  http://xkcd.com/792/ Password Reuse ;)
[00:27] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, ok that worked, i dont know why the orig one didnt work, but adding a new one did thanks for the suggestion on the keymapping, would have never thought of that
[00:27] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: glad i could help
[00:27] <[V13]Axel> revilodraw: Yes-- I have two monitors attached to one computer, one to an NVIDIA onboard, and one to an ATI PCIe card. It works perfectly fine in Windows, and I miss having my fourth monitor(Two computers, two monitors each), which is the only thing keeping me from switching to 100% Ubuntu.
[00:28] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, now if i could just get it to work while rotating the cube
[00:28] <escott> [V13]Axel, if nvidia used gem then there would be some hope this could work because gem could switch the execution to the correct card, but nvidia doesnt
[00:28] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, in order for what you want to work there would have to be a third hardware device (or software, but FSB would slow it to a crawl), something that converts signals that ATI puts out into signals that NVIDIA could understand. They can't transfer graphics seemlessly as they don't speak the same language essientially.
[00:28] <revilodraw> [V13]Axel: that is way out of my league
[00:29] <StrangeLoop> Does anyone know an image browsing program which knows to browse images by date of modification?
[00:29] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, Now you can use an ATI card to render graphics and an nVidia card for PhysX if you want.
[00:29] <escott> StrangeLoop, i think shotwell does that
[00:29] <Zelozelos> StrangeLoop, you can sort by date in list view of nautilus
[00:29] <[V13]Axel> escott: Well, I don't see why it can work in Windows but not on Linux.
[00:29] <Snicers-Work3> StrangeLoop, Picasa
[00:30] <[V13]Axel> revilodraw: Understood- I'm a bit of a nerd, and thus, know a good bit about the hardware side of things.
[00:30] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, are you sure it works or is it just using plug and play drivers?
[00:30] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: haha what do you want to do that for?
[00:31] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, if it is just using plug and play drivers you might as well just go shell out 20 bucks for two of the same cheap video cards.
[00:31] <[V13]Axel> Snicers-Work3: I'm positive it works-- I can play full 3D games on either monitor, and both are using the manufacturer WDDM drivers on Windows.
[00:31] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, i like to export ccsm settings and save screenshots along w them so i know which is which
[00:31] <escott> [V13]Axel, they have the market power to force nvidia and ati to play by the rules and create drivers that work within the framework. and can you move a game once it is started on one card?
[00:31] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: ok, i dont know what ccsm settings are. is that compiz?
[00:31] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, yup
[00:32] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey everyone! How do you disable the Unity workspace switcher lens on the launcher?
[00:32] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, sorry thats the name for the advanced compiz settin manager
[00:32] <[V13]Axel> escott: If I'm running it within a window, yes. Same thing with Aero-enabled windows. They work wonderfully-- No lag at all.
[00:32] <revilodraw> Zelozelos: ok, well do you know how to fix my no sound problem?
[00:32] <Zelozelos> umm maybe..idk for sure ive never had sound issues, whats it doing?
[00:34] <lindenle> hi all have a problem in 11.04 that the nvidia accelerated driver is activated but not in use. any idea how to get this driver up and running (also display is acting a little janky without it)
[00:34] <[V13]Axel> escott: Also, on Linux. When I boot, the bootlogo shows up on the ATI card, and all command-line output shows up there as well, when in command-line mode. However, once the X server starts, the NVidia monitor shows the GUI. It's odd.
[00:34] <Zelozelos> revilodraw, umm maybe..idk for sure ive never had sound issues, whats it doing?
[00:35] <Snicers-Work3> Axel, start here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=834211
[00:35] <escott> [V13]Axel, you get crazy results with a crazy setup :)
[00:36] <revilodraw> well, since my last update, i have no sound whatsoever. i have tried a usb sound card with headphones, no luck. i tried headphones plugged into comouter, no luck, youtube is silent, exaile is silent
[00:36] <Snicers-Work3> revilodraw, terminal "alsamixer" and see if you can fix it from there.
[00:37] <revilodraw> Snicers-Work3: i have tried that and unfortunately that didnt help. everythiing is set to max volume in there
[00:37] <Snicers-Work3> revilodraw, Is the device listed on your pc?
[00:37] <escott> [V13]Axel, i'm pretty confident the best result you will get is to have glx enabled on only one display and the other display be unaccelerated. that is going to force you into using the unity-2d interface instead of compiz
[00:37] <Reign_> I was told that viruses hitting Unbuntu are unlikely. What causes it than to freeze and have to be forcefully shut down with on/off button?
[00:38] <Lxndr> I have desire for running windows programs. But I have no desire for dual booting, and WINE is failing me. I've heard rumors about some sort of ability to install Windows *within* Ubuntu and have it run... as is. How can I make this happen?
[00:38] <[V13]Axel> escott: Unity is not installed on this PC. I use Ubuntu 10.04.2. I can do without compiz on this particular machine, that's not what I'm worried about.
[00:38] <quant> Reign_, could be many things, overheating to start with
[00:38] <Daekdroom> Reign_, gpu lockups, kernel oopses etc. Not necessarily malware.
[00:38] <xangua> Lxndr: virtual machine
[00:38] <escott> !VirtualBox | Lxndr
[00:38] <[V13]Axel> Lxndr: Virtualbox.org
[00:38] <Reign_> I see multiple responses. Computer did this shortly after start up twice in a row.
[00:38] <revilodraw> Snicers-Work3: i think so, can you be a little more specific? it's an hda intel card, and in 'system, preferences, sound' , under hardware, it says 'internal audio - analog stereo duplex'
[00:38] <Snicers-Work3> Lxndr, Note, there is significant performance lost.
[00:39] <kavurt> anybody uses google talk video chat with something like pidgin or anything?
[00:39] <xangua> !anyone | kavurt
[00:39] <Reign_> "panic occurred, switching back to text console?"
[00:39] <escott> [V13]Axel, i thought you had it working with WindowMaker. why not use that xorg.conf
[00:40] <Lxndr> Snicers-Work3, I've suspected a performance loss. In what way is this performance loss significant?
[00:40] <[V13]Axel> escott: That's the problem-- It's the same xorg.conf. All I did was tweak some video settings and WaZoo. It worked.
[00:41] <xangua> Lxndr: as in having a virtual OS running
[00:41] <quant> Reign_, could be Unity crashing, try running "classic Gnome" and see if it happens
[00:41] <Reign_> quant: I do not know what classic Gnome is
[00:41] <kavurt> can i use google talk video chat with any software?
[00:41] <escott> Reign_, what graphics card do you have
[00:42] <quant> Reign_, when you're logging in, select "Ubuntu classic" from the menu on the bottom of the screen (after you select your username)
[00:42] <Reign_> escott: don't know; emachine
[00:42] <jaequery> hey
[00:42] <escott> Reign_, lspci | pastebinit
[00:43] <psusi> a while back I found a utility that analyzes the memory used by each process, by each module, and accounts for the memory shared between them, but now I can't remember what it was.  Anyone have any idea?
[00:43] <ssfdre38> what GRUB ver are you using?
[00:43] <ssfdre38> for ubuntu
[00:43] <Minnen> i use 1.99
[00:43] <revilodraw> Snicers-Work3: is that what you mean? in System > Preferences > Sound?
[00:44] <escott> revilodraw, is this a relatively new laptop?
[00:44] <pionar> good evening everyone
[00:44] <Polah> On 10.04, where does the phpmyadmin directory go? I can't find it in /var/www
[00:44] <revilodraw> escott: no, it's a 2008 toshiba u300
[00:45] <bastidrazor> Minnen: no you don't.
[00:45] <bastidrazor> !info grub
[00:45] <qin> !info retty
[00:45] <qin> 386...
[00:45] <escott> !info grub-pc | bastidrazor
[00:45] <revilodraw> escott: it's an onboard hda intel audio card, but strangely, plugging in a usb sound card didnt give me sound
[00:46] <bastidrazor> escott: and i stand corrected.
[00:46] <pionar> Polah, it's in /etc/phpmyadmin
[00:46] <escott> revilodraw, well adding a usb to the mix is just going to make things more confusing, intel hda is well supported at the hardware level, but things get screwed up when all the manufacturers customize their builds you might try http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[00:47] <Reign_> bbiab
[00:47] <revilodraw> escott: ok thank, sadly i think i've already tried this
[00:47] <escott> revilodraw, even the hda_analyzer?
[00:47] <Polah> pionar: That's just various configuration files#
[00:48] <mouse> I have a problem.  My laptop kept disconnecting and reconnecting and it was getting annoying so I installed ndiswrapper and a windows driver for my wireless card but then it couldn't connect at all so I uninstalled the driver and ndiswrapper but I still can't use my wireless card.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[00:49] <escott> bastidrazor, no problem
[00:49] <vanina> hi !!!
[00:49] <Gerwin> mouse: Try opening up a terminal and typing 'sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper'
[00:50] <psusi> ahh there it is, memstat!
[00:50] <Gerwin> That way the ndiswrapper module will be uninstalled
[00:50] <pionar> Polah,  /usr/share/phpmyadmin, i think
[00:50] <ChrisSc> hi all
[00:50] <vanina> anyone know a software like Visual Studio?
[00:50] <ChrisSc> I'm looking for a programm that shows the history of the cpu-temp/hdd-temp
[00:51] <escott> ChrisSc, hddtemp
[00:51] <pionar> vanina, depends on the language
[00:51] <escott> ChrisSc, and lm-sensors
[00:51] <ChrisSc> already installed
[00:51] <vanina> thanks pionar
[00:51] <ChrisSc> i want a graph
[00:51] <revilodraw> escott:  where do  get the hda-analyzer from? is it the same us ubuntu-bug audio?
[00:51] <mouse> Gerwin, Fatal: module ndiswrapper not found.
[00:51] <escott> ChrisSc, you want a gui then... conky perhaps
[00:51] <vanina> i use PHP MySql
[00:51] <pionar> vanina, if you're looking for .NET stuff, I'd look at monodevelop
[00:51] <escott> revilodraw, you can download it from that website
[00:52] <Gerwin> mouse: Do you happen to know what wireless card you have?
[00:52] <pionar> oh, then, vanina, I'd check out Netbeans PHP
[00:52] <mouse> One second.
[00:52] <hanasaki> I read something about 11.10 targeted to have newer drivers targeted than 12.04 since 12.04 is LTS and 11.10 is not.  what is that about?
[00:52] <ChrisSc> is there a template for conky? the default config is crap
[00:52] <pionar> I use that exclusively on Ubuntu, Windows, and Mac
[00:53] <escott> ChrisSc, they have some examples on their website and the #conky may help. there are also some panel applets for 10.10 and !classic
[00:53] <ChrisSc> thx escott, I'll have a look
[00:54] <vanina> pionar, do u use netBeans ?
[00:54] <mouse> Gerwin, according to some site it's a atheros AR5007EG
[00:54] <pionar> vanina, yeah, it has everything, code completion, PHPUnit integration, error checking, documentation generation
[00:55] <Gerwin> mouse: Open up a terminal again, type 'sudo lspci', and look for the entry with Network Controller in it.
[00:55] <Gerwin> That'll tell you what card it is
[00:55] <revilodraw> escott: i'm in the hda analyzer now. this is some hardcore shit
[00:56] <pionar> vanina, http://netbeans.org/features/php/index.html
[00:56] <vanina> has you ever used VisualStudio / Asp.net?
[00:56] <escott> revilodraw, yeah its not the pinnacle of user friendliness. i've never used it from the point of not having any sound at all, but ive used it to get headphone jacks turned on
[00:57] <escott> revilodraw, feel free to pm if you have questions I can try to answer
[00:57] <vanina> Thanks Pionar. I'm looking at the page
[00:58] <mouse> Gerwin, atheros ar5001
[01:00] <eiriksvin> does anyone know of a cool audio mixer that can modify my bass/mis/treble etc
[01:01] <eiriksvin> i want to be able to mix audio from any source before its pumped out of my speakers
[01:02] <twotenam> i would also like to know about this
[01:03] <Gerwin> mouse: You could try using the ath5k driver for your Atheros card, if I'm  it's in the package linux-backports-modules-distro
[01:04] <Ziber> I've noticed that ubuntu 10.10 is running at ~90C on my laptop. Toshiba Satellite. Any ideas to fix this?
[01:05] <eiriksvin> yeah, cus i got a creative speaker set up with subs and i want to be able to fix the sound
[01:06] <eiriksvin> geez hot keys:)
[01:06] <eiriksvin> but anyone got a lead on a good audio mixer?
[01:07] <jefferyw> not sure why my isc-dhcp-server wont start here is my dhcpd.conf
[01:07] <jefferyw> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MbbD5H2X
[01:07] <jahman> u wonno ponp up pum
[01:08] <Gerwin> mouse: I have to leave for work now, hopefully your problem is solved, if not, please try finding someone else to help you.
[01:08] <mouse> Gerwin, Alright thank you.
[01:08] <jahman> gerwin cum back
[01:08] <dijonyummy> in 11.04 with gnome classic i sometimes lose the window bar (with minimize, maximize) how to get it back?
[01:09] <xangua> dijonyummy: metacity --replace &
[01:09] <jahman> use your brains get back to windows
[01:09] <eiriksvin> why would you send him back to winblows?
[01:10] <eiriksvin> heh
[01:10] <jahman> him a fe go
[01:10] <jahman> go then
[01:10] <mouse> cause jahman works for windows
[01:10] <dijonyummy> but what if i want to use compiz?
[01:11] <xangua> dijonyummy: compiz --replace
[01:11] <jahman> no he does not he his a debian man
 you want to really open up compiz reinstall 10.10, thats got alot more options, minus the bugs
[01:11] <dijonyummy> man i see so in 11.04 compiz removes the bar (with max,min)? but in 10.10 compiz still keeps the bar with min,max?
[01:12] <mouse> Micro(small)soft(limp)
[01:12] <eiriksvin> 11.04 is not ready for me yet, its too screwy so far:(
[01:12] <pionar> wow, people are still bashing microsoft with juvenile jokes in 2011.
[01:12] <eiriksvin> i tried it, and nuked it
[01:13] <dijonyummy> thanks for tips. i'm running 11.04 in a vm to get use to it. not going as main os yet.
[01:13] <dijonyummy> i dont like unity
[01:14] <jahman> no they are not can u put food on the table witj ubuntu
[01:14] <eiriksvin> pionar i don't care for windows, thats all. i hate almost everything about it (other than the fact that it does run alot of games i can't play on Ubuntu)
[01:15] <eiriksvin> i can't say i didn't like Unity, i just don't like the lack of customization available as of now
[01:15] <jahman> kool man only joking with you guys
[01:15] <revilodraw> i was just in here and accidentally left without saying thanks to the person who was trying to help me. so, thank you
[01:15] <pionar> eiriksvin, it's just another OS, some people like it.  I don't mind 7, it's actually not that bad.    I am trying to install broadcomm drivers on an old Inspiron B130.  Have basic question regarding modprobe ...  I am documenting my steps here ....
[01:16] <gare> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542430
[01:16] <jahman> Mshuges are you gonr to sleep
[01:16] <eiriksvin> everything drags, i nuked win7 about 2 weeks ago
[01:17] <spencer> can i use a tv tuner in ubuntu
[01:17] <celthunder> gare: what's the question
[01:17] <eiriksvin> spencer good question
[01:17] <celthunder> spencer: ? i'd assume so
[01:17] <gare> how do i make 'modprobe b44' 'stick' for next reboot .. what is it doing ?
[01:18] <gare> * and thank you for your help *
[01:18] <eiriksvin> i'm looking for a good audio mixer that has Bass/Mid/Trebel at least, can someone help me?
[01:18] <celthunder> spencer: tvtime
[01:18] <coz_> eiriksvin,  well  alsamixer  in terminal works
[01:18] <coz_> eiriksvin,  it is terminal based
[01:19] <pythonirc101> is anyone using --  https://landscape.canonical.com/ here?
[01:19] <coz_> eiriksvin,  there is also gnome-alsamixer   or alsamixergui
[01:19] <eiriksvin> im gonna check it out
[01:19] <celthunder> gare: you mean /etc/modules?
[01:19] <gare> yes.
[01:19] <coz_> eiriksvin,  its possible there is a pulseaudio gui mixer as well
[01:19] <gare> how to enable module for next reboot? (?)
[01:19] <celthunder> coz_: pavumixer or something like that
[01:20] <coz_> celthunder,  ah cool..will check now
[01:20] <greggft> 1stQ: 11.04, twinview, 2 screens - top & bottom *not* left & right, open terminal, starts in top screen since it is primary, I move it to bottom screen, I try to resize it while in the bottom screen it looks like it is resizing, then the terminal window goes away *AND* all other occurrances of terminal anywhere running on my desktop goes away.  WHY??? 2ndQ: where do you start to debug this?
[01:20] <celthunder> gare: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[01:20] <phong_> what the fuk
[01:20] <gare> celthunder: thanks!
[01:21] <celthunder> coz_: pavucontrol
[01:21] <celthunder> phong_: ?
[01:21] <coz_> celthunder,  ah cool  I see that now,, doesnt look much more than system sound settings in gnome though
[01:22] <celthunder> coz_: yeah it's not much
[01:24] <kavurt> my empathy calls are silent. there's no ringing. is it possible to enable ringing?
[01:25] <lindenle> OK guys I am having no luck getting rid of f^*&^ing nouveau
[01:25] <celthunder> kavurt: what're you using for a pbx?
[01:25] <lindenle> I have tried kernel boot command blacklist modprobe blacklist and disable server
[01:25] <celthunder> lindenle: rmmod it?
[01:25] <lindenle> i believe it is modeset
[01:25] <nimbiotics> hello all. I need to convert some flv & mpr files to mp3. Which software can I use for this task?? TIA!
[01:25] <eiriksvin> hmm i got that gnome mixer, but theres no way to change the bass midrange and treble
[01:25] <celthunder> lindenle: delete the .so file?
[01:25] <kavurt> celthunder: google talk. that's your question i assume
[01:26] <coz_> eiriksvin,  there is also pulsaudio system equalizer
[01:26] <eiriksvin> thats what i need an eq
[01:26] <celthunder> nimbiotics: ffmpeg
[01:26] <lindenle> I think it is in the initrd. I want to remove it from there
[01:26] <celthunder> kavurt: uhm yeah you should be able to gfet rings then
[01:26] <nimbiotics> celthunder: does it have a graphical front end?
[01:27] <celthunder> nimbiotics: plenty of things rely on it (most media players etc)
[01:27] <nimbiotics> celthunder: ok, THX
[01:29] <froq> Hey all, I am about to reformat a drive after switching to Linux from OSx, however, I don't know what the best format strategy is...  would it be EXT4, or NFTS, or XFS, etc?!  I suspect sometime in the future I will be changing OS again, because I do that often.  What is most versatile?
[01:29] <studentz> nimbiotics  CLI is the best but  WinFF is a good front end
[01:29] <lindenle> ok I just pulled apart the initrd and the nouveau module is in there
[01:30] <eiriksvin> i cant find that EQ in the repo
[01:30] <celthunder> froq: ext3 is pretty universal
[01:30] <celthunder> froq: i don't think windows will boot off ext3 though you can read files off it mac should do ext3 just fine
[01:31] <escott> froq, ext4 is the standard these days, if you are worried about having to resize your partitions you can use lvm or mdadm, there has been talk about going to btrfs in future releases but its just not ready yet. none of these work with windows though, and the cross-platform solutions are terrible
[01:31] <celthunder> froq: no idea about ext4 on other os's works great for linux though0
[01:31] <celthunder> yeah what he said
[01:31]  * celthunder points up
[01:32] <andrew[a]clt> I followed the instructions found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP but when I do the phpinfo(); it downloads the php file instead of executing the code. Any hints?
[01:32] <froq> so go ext3 to be the safest?!  It has the most universal amount of drivers out there?  Just wanted to clarify... though, someone mentioned LVM, how do you set that up after installation?
[01:32] <celthunder> andrew[a]clt: uncomment php/mysql.iso in the httpd.conf and reload apache
[01:33] <celthunder> froq: no filesystem is 100 percent great on all platforms pick one and use it according to the os you plan on using the most
[01:34] <escott> froq, you lose extents with ext3 which is a useful feature for media. i'm pretty uncomfortable with the ext3 drivers for other oses because I just don't know anyone who uses them regularly, and inserting kernel modules into a closed source kernel seems like a bad idea to me. lvm you would have to setup at the beginning, and may make it impossible for mac/windows to even see the partitions
[01:34] <chrislustic> Hi there. all.  I cannot seem to locate partitin editor now htat i have updated to ubuntu 11.04 ... any suggestions please?
[01:34] <escott> chrislustic, use/install gparted
[01:34] <chrislustic> partition*
[01:34] <froq> celthunder, ok.  thanks
[01:34] <KM0201> chrislustic: is it installed?  sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:34] <froq> escott, so uh... to late to set up LVM if I already performed my install?
[01:35] <nimbiotics> studentz: what is CLI? where do I get it?
[01:35] <chrislustic> i hope its simple...  lool... just seems to have dissapeared after i updated...
[01:35] <celthunder> nimbiotics: the terminal
[01:35] <studentz> nimbiotics comman line interface or terminal
[01:35] <escott> froq, i think so, although it may be possible to convert... if it is possible im sure someone has done it
[01:35] <celthunder> andrew[a]clt: a2enmod php5
[01:35] <KM0201> chrislustic: yeah, make sure its still installed first
[01:35] <andrew[a]clt> celthunder, humm, I don't think that's correct, ubuntu splits everything up into like 40,000 files I see it loading the module in mod-enabled/php5.load
[01:35] <froq> escott, your knowledge is sufficent for me!  thanks for clarifying! :)
[01:36] <froq> escott, what is the disadvantage of ext3 compared to ext4 for media?
[01:36] <nimbiotics> studentz: got it, and what is ffwin?
[01:36] <escott> froq, apparently you can convert, but its going to confuse a lot of boot scripts potentially
[01:36] <celthunder> andrew[a]clt: a2enmod php5
[01:37] <andrew[a]clt> celthunder, tried that already, said it was already loaded
[01:37] <psusi> froq, ext4 is a bit faster and more efficient
[01:37] <celthunder> andrew[a]clt: did you reload/restart apache after doing that?
[01:37] <froq> psusi, ok thx
[01:37] <andrew[a]clt> celthunder, after it said it was already loaded no, but I shall try
[01:37] <escott> froq, extents is the headline feature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[01:38] <studentz> nimbiotics WinFF is a GUI to use ffmpeg, you can install from Ubuntu Software Center
[01:38] <celthunder> andrew[a]clt: yeah you have to restart apache after loading modules
[01:39] <andrew[a]clt> celthunder, yeah, thanks that did it
[01:39] <gare> celthunder:  hate to be dummy but i am having problem with adding modules to my /etc/modprobe.d ...
[01:39] <nimbiotics> studentz: got it, already downloading, THX!!!
[01:39] <gare> if this command works:  sudo modprobe b43  .... then what should I pubt in modprobe.conf ?
[01:39] <escott> gare, b43
[01:39] <gare> ^put
[01:40] <gare> thanks
[01:41] <gare> and ... if there is NOT a modprobe.conf .. is ok to create one?  And ... how to reload modprobe without rebooting to test?  (Thank you!)
[01:41] <escott> gare, it should be added to /etc/modules
[01:41] <gare> oh
[01:41] <celthunder> gare: just put the name of the module...
[01:41] <escott> gare, these files get moved around from distro to distro hence the confusion
[01:41] <escott> exactly
[01:42] <gare> escott:  there is no /etc/modules in new natty install ..
[01:42] <celthunder> gare: so make one or both files
[01:42] <plustax> Im running 11.04 how do I hook up my laptop to my TV via hdmi? Cable is already hooked up, I just can't get my screen to pop up on my TV
[01:42] <celthunder> plustax: xrandr
[01:42] <plustax> celthunder, what is that?
[01:43] <gare> uh .. dir was looking for a directory .. there is an /etc/modules file ..
[01:43] <celthunder> plustax: lets you set your monitors how you want resolution location compared to others etc
[01:44] <plustax> celthunder, the current monitors app isnt even recognizing my TV
[01:44] <escott> plustax, there is a monitors application which is a gui to xrandr
[01:44] <michael_> Is there a guide for a transition to KDE, anyone?
[01:44] <celthunder> plustax: for example i use xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --right-of LVDS1
[01:44] <plustax> okay lemme look into it.
[01:44] <celthunder> plustax: to get monitor names just type it without arguements
[01:44] <blip-> hi, I just tested the latest 32-bit 11.04 ubuntu liveCD and my wifi didn't work on my new Lenovo T420 laptop with Realtek RTL8188CE wifi card.  Should I just install then figure out how to make it work assuming there are drivers, or could it be a distro specific thing and I'll be forced to use another distro ?
[01:44] <escott> plustax, its true name is gnome-display-properties
[01:45] <celthunder> blip-: if theres drivers they should work in all distro's
[01:45] <Russo> d
[01:45] <celthunder> blip-: realtek is pretty good with using compatible chipsets though
[01:45] <aeon-ltd> michael_: not really, the transition is install, log out, change session, login - not much to help here besides use it a few days
[01:45] <celthunder> michael_: what is difficult about kde transision?
[01:46] <plustax> celthunder, I have ARandR and multiple screens apps from software center. I have no idea how to set them up so I can connect the TV
[01:46] <plustax> can you walk me through it?
[01:46] <celthunder> plustax: open a terminal and pastebin output of xrandr with no arguements
[01:47] <celthunder> plustax: make sure your hdmi is plugged in when doing that
[01:47] <glitsj16> Is there a (documented) way to assign a custom gtk+ class and name to nautilus browser windows? the gtk+ command line options --class and --name for setting the WM_CLASS property don't seem to have any effect with nautilus (2.32) on ubuntu 10.04, 10.10 & 11.04...
[01:48] <celthunder> glitsj16: xprop
[01:48] <gare> and a big booyah . for the wireless . just added the 'b43' in the /etc/modules file & wireless  fired up!   what is syntax to add this to get the wired to work:   modprobe - r b43 ssb    ??
[01:48] <plustax> http://pastebin.com/Sxm6GW9Z
[01:48] <plustax> celthunder,
[01:48] <phoenix_> escott: Greetings, ready for round 2, still can't get drive mapped for floppy
[01:49] <itilious> why would the program gksu be being used thru port 80? (showing in firestarter active connections)
[01:49] <celthunder> plustax: does it see anything is plugged into hdmi? theres nothing there
[01:49] <mukiex> Is there a straightforward way to view my sata controller chipset?
[01:49] <glitsj16> celthunder: thx, but that doesn't assign anything does it? i used it to test cli options, that was how i found out it didn't work for nautilus
[01:49] <mukiex> Like, a command line method?
[01:49] <escott> mukiex, lspci
[01:49] <plustax> Its plugged in both my tv and my computer
[01:49] <celthunder> glitsj16: ? sure it can
[01:49] <escott> gare, you shouldn't have to remove b43 for wired connections
[01:49] <celthunder> glitsj16: xprop -set
[01:49] <mukiex> Thanks, escott! =3
[01:50] <glitsj16> celthunder: great, i missed that completely
[01:50] <itilious> gksu using port 80 from remote unkown location,,,,, is this bad?!
[01:50] <gare> ahh
[01:50] <escott> phoenix_, i don't have much more i can offer suggestion wise, but if you want to pastebin a session i can review it to see if there is anything obviously wrong
[01:50] <plustax> celthunder, the hdmi cable is plugged into the tv and my laptop and my tv is on the correct HDMI source setting.
[01:50] <celthunder> plustax: does the laptop see the hdmi port?
[01:50] <plustax> I dont know
[01:50] <celthunder> plustax: cause xrandr doesn't :/
[01:50] <plustax> how do I tell? Sorry Im a bit of a linux noob
[01:51] <plustax> celthunder, can you help me fix it?
[01:51] <celthunder> plustax: lspci do you see your hdmi port listed?
[01:51] <escott> plustax, have you tried hitting the function button to enable the output display, maybe the hardware requires that you do that
[01:52] <plustax> celthunder, I dont see it in there, no.
[01:52] <celthunder> escott: should still at least see it even if it's not enabled though ?
[01:52] <plustax> escott, function button?
[01:52] <celthunder> plustax: Fn+ display button (f5 for me)
[01:53] <escott> celthunder, i don't know, maybe its some weird hardware switch. plustax look for a blue monitor/projector screen button in your function keys (that is usually what it looks like)
[01:53] <celthunder> escott: lol true enough
[01:53] <plustax> yeah i see one. It just turns off my lcd
[01:54] <plustax> oh that
[01:54] <plustax> I pressed it. Didnt do anything.
[01:54] <escott> plustax, and gnome-display-properties/xrandr isn't showing the other screen
[01:54] <plustax> escott nope
[01:54] <plustax> neither is lspci
[01:54] <celthunder> plustax: press it again when the lcd is off type xrandr again
[01:54] <escott> plustax, what kind of graphics card is this
[01:55] <celthunder> plustax: it could not be using a pci connection...though why hdmi would be on anything else?
[01:55] <plustax> nvidiamgeforce 9300m GS
[01:55] <gare> just needed wireless to work in any event .. so thanks for help celthunder  and escott  !!\
[01:55] <celthunder> gare: np
[01:55] <escott> plustax, i understand that nvidia doesn't use xrandr... we've been going at this all wrong
[01:55] <plustax> okay
[01:56] <escott> plustax, i think you need to use whatever the nvidia screen resolution control application is
[01:56] <hackel> I helped a friend install Natty on her Windows 7 machine using Wubi, and it works great, but now she can't boot into Win7.  I've been Linux-only for over a decade so have no clue what is wrong, anyone else have a similar problem?
[01:56] <plustax> escott okay
[01:56] <Kodec> back | track 5 released or not yet ?
[01:56] <celthunder> escott: that's assuming he's not using the open source drivers (are you plustax?)
[01:56] <plustax> that worked escott!
[01:56] <celthunder> Kodec: backtrack.org/.com
[01:56] <plustax> Thank you!!!
[01:57] <celthunder> escott: nice catch :(
[01:57] <rmc749> hi!
[01:57] <celthunder> rmc749: hi
[01:57] <escott> celthunder, thats why i hate nvidia
[01:57] <Kodec> celthunder: This link appears to be broken
[01:57] <celthunder> hackel: does grub chainload properly to the windows bootloader?
[01:57] <celthunder> Kodec: then google it lol
[01:58] <celthunder> escott: better than ati by far
[01:58] <gare> hackel  : could try update grub to see if it detects the win partition ...
[01:58] <rmc749> i need help
[01:58] <celthunder> rmc749: what's the problem
[01:58] <hackel> celthunder: Well, initially the Windows bootloader comes up with an option for Ubuntu, choosing that goes to grub (which *also* has an option to boot Windows, which returns to the original Windows bootloader).
[01:59] <celthunder> hackel: ew? why not use grub and chainload windows (sorry i totally don't trust windows bootloader)
[01:59] <escott> hackel, sounds like the windows boot.ini has had the windows option deleted
[01:59] <hackel> celthunder: Don't ask me, I've never used Wubi before. :)
[01:59] <rmc749> penetrating a network
[02:00] <celthunder> rmc749: yours or someone elses?
[02:00] <hackel> escott: No, Windows is still there (it says "recovered"), but if I choose it, it says something about not being able to locate the disk.  It *is* reading files, though, and I can see the Windows logo for a second before it crashes.  Is it possible that the ntfs partition got corrupted somehow?
[02:01] <celthunder> hackel: does safe mode/ command line boot for windows work?
[02:02] <rmc749> someone else
[02:02] <Iron_Chef> what has happened to ctrl alt b ?
[02:02] <escott> hackel, ewwww... its possible that it might be corrupted, but it may also be that critical files have been moved within the ntfs system so that the bootloader cannot find them. i think a windows rescue disk is in order
[02:02] <Iron_Chef> what has happened to ctrl alt d - that should be ??
[02:02] <rmc749> university
[02:02] <hackel> celthunder: No it doesn't.  It just reboots after a flash of a blue screen.  It could be that this is just Windows usual crapping out, so obviously I'll look elsewhere for support if that's the case!
[02:02] <celthunder> Iron_Chef: ctrl alt d for what?
[02:02] <Iron_Chef> celthunder: show desktop
[02:02] <celthunder> hackel: sounds like it
[02:03] <escott> Iron_Chef, the expose feature, have you checked in !ccsm
[02:03] <celthunder> rmc749: we can't officially tell you how but aircrack is what you want most likel aircrack wireshark and tcpdump
[02:03] <escott> Iron_Chef, i have it as Super S
[02:03] <celthunder> Iron_Chef: i push <windowskey>+<desktop#> works fine form e
[02:04] <Iron_Chef> escott: ah they have used the super key. thanks for that - super d works for me
[02:04] <rmc749> I do not mean wifi
[02:04] <escott> !illegal | rmc749
[02:04] <Iron_Chef> strangely i thing ctrl alt are more ergonomic tho
[02:04] <celthunder> rmc749: then what're you trying to penetrate about it?
[02:04] <rmc749> so sorry
[02:04] <celthunder> rmc749: the network for wired is usually just plug in in an elevated vlan and do what you want
[02:05] <celthunder> rmc749: assuming they don't actually check the mac address/static ip's or anything else on those vlans)
[02:05] <Iron_Chef> a university would most likely check macs - if they have any sense
[02:06] <rmc749> yes.. you've reason
[02:06] <celthunder> Iron_Chef: checking mac addresses is a waste of time...takes about 5 seconds to spoof
[02:06] <Iron_Chef> celthunder: combined with every other available check
[02:06] <plustax> im having another issue now. it detects my screen, but when I save settings, it freezes my computer
[02:06] <Iron_Chef> and most userers wouldn't be able to spoof it
[02:07] <codex84> why do i loose connection when i have my pc on sleep or hibernate
[02:07] <codex84> i have to plug off the router and click auto eth0
[02:07] <escott> plustax, i'm not sure we can help much there. it is an nvidia driver
[02:07] <codex84> ?
[02:07] <rmc749> thanks .. I will see do ... use backtrack, bye
[02:07] <mike> how can i decrase grub menu timeout ?
[02:07] <celthunder> codex84: think about that a minute
[02:07] <celthunder> mike: /boot/grub.cfg
[02:07] <cretsiah> is there a parents control i can install on ubuntu10.10 to control the available hrs and sites my kids can view??
[02:07] <plustax> escott how can I tell if I have the correct nvidia driver?
[02:07] <Iron_Chef> codex84: it's because the computer is off perhaps? ;-)
[02:07] <skiloup> I upgraded to natty and now the icons in the "system tray" cannot be clicked.  Any ideas?
[02:08] <codex84> no when i come out of sleep mode
[02:08] <escott> cellardoor, mike not the /boot/grub/grub.cfg that is auto-generated it is /etc/default/grub
[02:08] <celthunder> plustax: try the open source ones...they're usually just as good as the nvidia ones for most things
[02:08] <celthunder> plustax: and they're not proprietary and dependent on nvidia
[02:08] <plustax> ok
[02:08] <Guest89187> celthunder> : not working
[02:08] <Iron_Chef> codex84: can you click on the network manager icon and reconnect?
[02:08] <celthunder> Guest89187: ?
[02:08] <escott> plustax, its not that you don't have the right driver, its that we can't really support that because nobody knows what that driver does
[02:09] <slakcphil> where can I find the splash screen from 8 . 10 ib ex?
[02:09] <codex84> it reconnects
[02:09] <plustax> you know what, I have no driver on here
[02:09] <codex84> when i plug off the router
[02:09] <plustax> I look in softwae center and see 185 173
[02:09] <plustax> and 96
[02:09] <codex84> putn it back on and click auto etho
[02:09] <plustax> do I need any of those? None of them are installed
[02:09] <Iron_Chef> codex84: look at the settings for that network, you can select "connect automatically?
[02:10] <codex84> is already
[02:10] <codex84> checked
[02:11] <escott> plustax, if you have nvidia-current then you have the nvidia driver. there are a couple alternatives including a plain 2d driver, and a very new reverse-engineered driver called nouveau. i've avoided nvidia for years now so I don't know what works and what doesnt
[02:12] <Iron_Chef> codex84: hmm, well that's me done then.  i don't use sleep or hibernate out of habit, but i guess it's something to do with the networking internals, linux hasn't really been developed with that in mind, it's mainly used for 24x7 servers, sleep and hibernate has always been a bit flakey :-)
[02:13] <Iron_Chef> something needs to be written into sleep that kicks the network when it comes "awake"
[02:13] <codex84> yea when it comes awake,the connection looses i have to power off the router
[02:13] <Iron_Chef> codex84: that's a bit extreme
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Iron_Chef: you can add stuff to the wakeup script to do stuff on wakeup
[02:14] <codex84> put it back in and than click auto etho than is back online
[02:14] <Iron_Chef> ActionParsnip: cool
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Iron_Chef: usually its rmmod then modprobe driver module
[02:14] <codex84> is mad weird because windows didnt do that mee
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> codex84: windows is a different OS so it will act differrent
[02:14] <Iron_Chef> codex84: windows was written primarily as a desktop, so those UI things are nailed down - apart from hardware manufacturers needing MS $ to survive
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Iron_Chef: http://superuser.com/questions/60473/is-there-a-way-to-call-a-script-when-ubuntu-wakes-up-from-suspend-or-hibernate-mo
[02:16] <codex84> even when the pc is shutdown and i turn it back on
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Iron_Chef: make a regualr script to remove then load the module, then add it to the wakeup stuffs
[02:16] <phoenix_> escott: found a way to mount the drive :)
[02:16] <codex84> no connection
[02:16] <codex84> maybe is my router idk
[02:17] <escott> phoenix_, what was the problem'
[02:17] <phoenix_> escott:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128613
[02:17] <phoenix_> escott: check out the solution
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> codex84: do you dual boot?
[02:17] <Rallias> Is this the proper place to ask about gnome 3 issues?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: no, ask in #gnome
[02:17] <mu3en> is there any predefined packages required to enable OpenGL from ubuntu-minimal
[02:17] <Rallias> @ActionParsnip: Thanks
[02:17] <codex84> no
[02:18] <codex84> no dual boot
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> codex84: ok, that makes life easie
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> codex84: if you rmmod the module used, then modprobe it, does it work?
[02:18] <codex84> ok um whats rmmod
[02:18] <codex84> lol
[02:19] <edbian> codex84: It's a command line program.  It stands for remove module
[02:20] <codex84> ohh
[02:20] <codex84> i see
[02:20] <edbian> codex84: It's like de-activating the driver
[02:20] <usr13> phoenix_: So you just commented out the /dev/fd0 line in /etc/fstab file?
[02:20] <cretsiah> i did a dual boot of ubuntu10.10 and winxp :( deleted windows twice cos i couldnt get the installer to install in the right place ..... all fixed now though
[02:21] <phoenix_> usr13: yes
[02:21] <usr13> phoenix_: So plugdev is bringing it up for  you?
[02:21] <Ben_G_9C9> **test
[02:21] <Rallias> Has anyone experienced where the screen of logins show only other, when you fail auth it says authentication failure, but when you succede it just stalls, allowing you to exit it with the esc key?
[02:21] <phoenix_> usr13:  not sure what that means but I can go to the mnt/floppy folder and see my contents of the disk
[02:22] <usr13> phoenix_: Ok, good. Long as it works.  Now this is 11.04 ?
[02:22] <edbian> Rallias: Can you log into recover mode?
[02:22] <phoenix_> usr13:  nope
[02:22] <psytech> help, I have files transfered from windows into ubuntu, and can not delete them out of my trash
[02:22] <usr13> 10.10?
[02:22] <psytech> 11.04
[02:23] <Rallias> edbian: yes
[02:23] <phoenix_> usr13: 10.10
[02:23] <usr13> ok
[02:23] <edbian> Rallias: Log into recovery mode and create a new user.  Can you log in as that user?
[02:23] <psytech> i also have files in a .Trash folder on my usb stick which i can not delete, not even with sudo
[02:23] <Rallias> edbian: same issue, allready tried
[02:23] <edbian> Rallias: Does the new user show up in the gui thingy?
[02:24] <duncan_> Greetings. First time Ubuntu, first time IRC; interests Audio engineering (guitar) - Billiards
[02:24] <Rallias> edbian: nope
[02:24] <usr13> phoenix_: How about un-mounting it?  Does that work ok?
[02:24] <edbian> Rallias: What command did you run to create the user?
[02:24] <Rallias> edbian: "sudo adduser railmeiser"
[02:25] <iuri> Hi there, I am using git as the control version of my code and i got into problems. I am trying to use git rebase in order to fix a few commits i did by mistake, but i couldn't get the result I expected. How do I cancel or get back to the latest commit before the bad ones?
[02:25] <edbian> Rallias: Can you su into that user?
[02:25] <Rallias> edbian: yes
[02:25] <edbian> Rallias: Mmm, very strange.  Lemme research a bit.
[02:26] <edbian> Rallias: Any errors when you try to log in?  It just hangs?
[02:26] <Rallias> edbian: when I try to login through the gui, yes
[02:26] <psytech> why is my USB stick stuck as a read only filesystem?
[02:27] <edbian> Rallias: What about changing the session to failsafe?
[02:27] <psytech> and yet I can add files, but not delete the .Trash folder
[02:27] <Rallias> edbian: failsafe is false advertising
[02:27] <edbian> Rallias: haha, it doesn't work either?
[02:27] <Rallias> edbian: nope
[02:28] <edbian> Rallias: Can you try to log into the gui (Causing the problem) and then switch to tty1 and look at the output of dmesg?
[02:28] <xissburg> hi
[02:28] <[A]ddicted> hi, i'm on 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu, doing kernel modules developpement. i could compile the module using the 2.5.35 source tree from kernel.org but couldn't load it using insmod (version dependancy). how can i get the 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu exact source ?
[02:29] <xissburg> please help me format my HDD using GParted :) I am afraid of it
[02:29] <toneshifter_> sup all :)
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> [A]ddicted: install kernel-source  I believe
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: how can we help?
[02:30] <toneshifter_> does anybody here experienced -1 channel (airmon-ng)
[02:30] <toneshifter_> ?
[02:30] <Rallias> edbian: It worked perfectly before I reinstalled with the alt disk to include full disk encryption, might that be the issue?
[02:30] <[A]ddicted> Action-Script done
[02:30] <[A]ddicted> ActionParsnip sorry :)
[02:30] <edbian> Rallias: Certainly sounds like it.  I've never set up encryption before.  Did you wipe everything?  What are your partitions like now?
[02:31] <psytech> How do I delete files in my trash folder if they have messed up permissions?
[02:31] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: hm I think its a good idea to take an screenshot of GParted to show you guys. How can I do it?
[02:31] <Rallias> edbian: I just let it do the dirty work
[02:31] <psytech> I cant even figure out where the trash folder is located!
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | [A]ddicted may give the packages you need
[02:31] <toneshifter_> xissburg what do you try to do ?
[02:31] <Rallias> edbian: It basically farted when I did a full system update and rebooted
[02:31] <dp> is there a way to find out when a package is going to be upgraded based on it's upstream?
[02:31] <edbian> Rallias: sudo fdisk -l  will tell you what the partitions are like.
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: use print screen then host it on imageshack (or similar) so you have a URL for the image
[02:31] <toneshifter_> Rallias what about recovery mode ?
[02:32] <dp> basically, I'm trying to find out when the php5-xdebug package is going to be upgraded to 2.1.1
[02:32] <edbian> Rallias: Did you erase what what you had?
[02:32] <edbian> toneshifter_: That does not work
[02:32] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: it takes screenshot of the whole screen
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> dp: you could find a ppa with it on
[02:32] <Rallias> toneshifter_ tried
[02:32] <toneshifter_> xissbur or just read gparted man
[02:32] <xissburg> toneshifter_: one sec, I'll take one screen shot..
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: you can crop using tools if you wish
[02:32] <dp> ActionParsnip: I've looked, but I don't see any that have it
[02:32] <toneshifter_> ediban aht about just formating /
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[02:32] <Rallias> edbian: /dev/sda1 is boot, /dev/sda2 is encrypted swap, /dev/sda5 is encrypted main drive
[02:32] <psytech> where is the trash folder located???
[02:32] <xissburg> toneshifter_: yea I read it, but I am still afraid of doing something wrong :/
[02:32] <escott> psytech, it is .trash and you will need to use chmod or sudo chmod to change permissions
[02:33] <toneshifter_> what can you do wrong ?
[02:33] <toneshifter_> just format /
[02:33] <dp> ActionParsnip: I know what a PPA is
[02:33] <toneshifter_> save /home
[02:33] <edbian> Rallias: Mmmm then I don't think the encryption would make a difference.
[02:33] <toneshifter_> and you're home
[02:33] <toneshifter_> :)
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> !trash | psytech
[02:33] <xissburg> heh
[02:33] <edbian> Rallias: If it had an encrypted /home that it couldn't read it would make sense that it couldn't log in via gui.
[02:33] <psytech> it is not .trash
[02:33] <psytech> that folder does not exist
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> dp: which release?
[02:33] <edbian> Rallias: But / is encrypted and it can boot the system so that must be fine.
[02:33] <toneshifter_> btw my question again did anybody experienced channel -1 (airmon-ng can't force proper channel)
[02:33] <dp> ActionParsnip: natty
[02:34] <edbian> Rallias: Can you switch to tty1 and look at the output of dmesg please?
[02:34] <Rallias> edbian: both home and whole drive have encryption
[02:34] <[A]ddicted> !kernel
[02:34] <toneshifter_> ediban what about sudo su ?
[02:34] <edbian> Rallias: You just said you don't have a separate /home
[02:34] <xissburg> ActionParsnip, toneshifter_ : http://i.imgur.com/qKl4S.png
[02:34] <toneshifter_> i mean chroot ?
[02:34] <[A]ddicted> !Stages
[02:34] <edbian> toneshifter_: That does work
[02:35] <toneshifter_> xissburg and what about it ?
[02:35] <edbian> toneshifter_: He also tried creating a new user.  He cannot log into the gui as any user.  He can su or log into tty1 with any user
[02:35] <dp> ooh, looks like I can just pecl upgrade it. that should work, provided I have everything
[02:35] <psytech> ubottu: thanks so much
[02:36] <xissburg> by now I want to format sda1 and sda5. sda1 has/had a trashed Windows XP installation. and sda5 has a working (but old) Windows 7 installation
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: ok what do you want to do?
[02:36] <toneshifter_> so chroot does not work ?
[02:36] <xissburg> do I just have to ' format'  both?
[02:36] <Rallias> edbian: dmesg only sedbian: Just showed majorset of ath: errors.
[02:36] <Scuffy> Hi! Is there any way to create a menu for command line progs?
[02:36] <duncan_> .
[02:36] <toneshifter_> xissbug what do you try to do ?
[02:36] <psytech> I guess ubuntu is mounting my usb drive in an odd fasion
[02:36] <Rallias> edbian: That might actually explain a totally unrelated issue
[02:36] <edbian> Rallias: Each auth error is a failed log in attempt.
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: well you have some ntfs partitions here, do you have windows installed on the drive?
[02:36] <Rallias> there's no auth errors
[02:36] <jrib> Scuffy: what do you mean by "menu"?
[02:36] <edbian> Rallias: Does it give any info about why the login failed?
[02:36] <Rallias> nope
[02:37] <edbian> Rallias: ath  != auth  ?
[02:37] <Rallias> edbian: the ath is an unrelated wireless hardware issue
[02:37] <xissburg> toneshifter_, ActionParsnip : I didn't try anything yet heh. I want to format both partitions but keep them as is (size, position, etc). Then I want to reinstall Windows 7 and Ubuntu
[02:37] <edbian> Rallias: Ahhh ath5k
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: sda1 is bootable so I'm guessing thats your windows partition
[02:37] <Rallias> edbian: you know of it?
[02:37] <edbian> Rallias: Anywho.  Check the /etc/passwd file  Is your user in that file?
[02:37] <edbian> Rallias: Of course :P
[02:37] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: Windows Xp in sda1 and Windows 7 in sda5
[02:38] <edbian> Rallias: Your username should appear near the bottom (especially the one you just created) but look through the whole thing
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: ok so what is sda6?
[02:38] <escott> Rallias, could your pam config be messed up
[02:38] <Rallias> edbian: it is
[02:38] <Rallias> escott: pam config?
[02:38] <TurkuSama> anyone know how to open a full screen game so it is a window?
[02:38] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: ah, just an unbootable partiion where I store files
[02:38] <edbian> Rallias: What about in /etc/shadow?
[02:38] <Rallias> turkusama: virtualbox?
[02:38] <linuxhelp> Can I get a hand choosing what bit version of Ubuntu to install?
[02:39] <escott> Rallias, pluggable authentication modules its how gdm authenticates the user prior to changing its uid
[02:39] <Scuffy> jrib A list of all command line interactive programs on my computer ( especially the ones that must be configured.
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: good so far, where do you want to install Ubuntu to (you can resize partitons)
[02:39] <Rallias> edbian: lots of random junk that i assume is my password.
[02:39] <edbian> linuxhelp: sure.  What are you confused about?
[02:39] <TurkuSama> not exactly
[02:39] <Rallias> edbian: I'm able to log into the ctrl-alt-f2 shell
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: you could resize sda6 and install to the free space in that partiton
[02:39] <TurkuSama> i open diablo 2 and it goes full screen, i want to open it so its shows up as a window
[02:39] <escott> Rallias, its all in /etc/pam* you could quickly look at that and see if anything looks out of order
[02:39] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: I think Ubuntu should go in sda5, and Windows7 in sda1 right? (I hear windows must be installed in the first partition)
[02:39] <TurkuSama> in a window*
[02:39] <jaduwala> whoami
[02:39] <linuxhelp> How do you PM?
[02:40] <linuxhelp> sorry
[02:40] <jelatta> hello
[02:40] <linuxhelp> not familiar to IRL
[02:40] <linuxhelp> IRC*
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> TurkuSama: in winecfg you can enable the desktop size (i forget the exact name) but it will make it run windowed
[02:40] <edbian> Rallias: But you can log into tty1 ??
[02:40] <Rallias> edbian: how do i switch tty's?
[02:40] <TurkuSama> k, i'll try that
[02:40] <edbian> linuxhelp: Just talk to us here
[02:40] <TurkuSama> thx
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: you can install it to any partition
[02:40] <edbian> Rallias: ctrl + alt + F1  goes to tty1
[02:40] <xissburg> hm
[02:40] <edbian> Rallias: ctrl + alt + F2 goes to tty2  etc etc
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: it just makes life a little easier to install windows first.
[02:40] <Rallias> I can log into any of the tty's
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[02:41] <linuxhelp> I have a 64 bit processor. Is there any disadvantages to installing 11.04 64-bit version like less program/driver support?
[02:41] <KM0201> lol
[02:41] <edbian> Rallias: You just said you can't log into tty2  which is it?
[02:41] <Matthew_> fuckin
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: if you delete the partition you want to install ubuntu to, then run the installer it wil offer to use the space
[02:41] <Rallias> edbian: I can't login with the gui, but can with the tty's
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[02:41] <edbian> Rallias: oh sorry.  misread
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[02:41] <TheNuts> lolwut
[02:41] <ouyes> what is SASL anyway?
[02:42] <ssfdre38> again
[02:42] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: but what steps should I take? Format both to what format? sda1 ntfs? What about sda5? Ah I can delete it
[02:42] <pipeep> ouyes, it's spam, ignore it
[02:42] <Matthew_> great
[02:42] <edbian> Rallias: Sorry misread.  you can't log into the gui, you can log into ttyX
[02:42] <escott> Rallias, if you can login to tty then i would focus on your pam config in /etc
[02:42] <Rallias> correct
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> linuxhelp: some 3rd party companies only ship 32bit drivers (Lexmark for example), otherwise drivers will be the same
[02:42] <Rallias> how do i find a process id from a tty?
[02:42] <edbian> Rallias: /etc/shadow is your password (it is encrypted)
[02:42] <edbian> Rallias: ps -e
[02:42] <escott> linuxhelp, go with 64bit
[02:42] <edbian> Rallias: ps -e lists all currently running processes
[02:42] <linuxhelp> So I should install 64-bit Ubuntu?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: cat /proc/cpuinfo | less
[02:42] <linuxhelp> Okay :D
[02:43] <ultrixx> ??? what is sasl
[02:43] <majnoon> thanks Jordan_U
[02:43] <jrib> please ignore the flooded message...
[02:43] <grndslm> i needed to check irc anyway!!
[02:43] <edbian> Rallias: This is gonna sound dumb.  have you restarted?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> linuxhelp: if you want, yes. If you have more than 3Gb ram or intend to do audio and video encoding then 64bit will help. For a desktop for standard desktop stuff 64bit won't really offer much except the ability to do the things I mentioned at a later date. There is no black and white answer
[02:44] <abountu> cv99f, how do we enable  SASL?
[02:44] <Rallias> edbian: multiple times
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> linuxhelp: I suggest you also research what '64bit' really means
[02:44] <ultrixx> jrib: that's difficult
[02:44] <ssfdre38> Rallias: just type ps aux and you will see it
[02:44] <abountu> how do we enable  SASL?
[02:44] <Scuffy> jrib, Did you miss my answer?
[02:44] <linuxhelp> Okay, thanks Parsnip :)
[02:44] <edbian> Rallias: go to tty1.  do killall gdm  and killall Xorg
[02:44] <linuxhelp> I will read up and check it out then. Thanks
[02:44] <edbian> Rallias: Then start gdm in tty1 like this: sudo gdm
[02:44] <ssfdre38> abountu: dont pay attation to it its not a freenode message
[02:44] <Rallias> edbian: I'm rebooting now
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[02:44] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: should I format sda1 to ntfs since I am gonna install windows in it?
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[02:44] <jrib> Scuffy: no, but I still don't understand exactly what you want to accomplish (maybe give example or explain why) and I am leaving soon
[02:44] <linuxhelp> expect me to come up in here once I'm done installing Ubuntu and ask questions
[02:45] <coz_> imagine a milkshake with 32 straws and one with 64 straws ,, mmmm
[02:45] <Rallias> edbian: finished reboot, same issue
[02:45] <jrib> ultrixx: why is it difficult?
[02:45] <linuxhelp> ok coz_ :P
[02:45] <abountu> ssfdre38, ok thx
[02:45] <edbian> Rallias: ok go to tty1 and killall Xorg and killall gdm
[02:45] <ssfdre38> abountu: if it was real they would send a global message on all channels and not just on here
[02:45] <ultrixx> jrib: because i really would like to know what that  is (sasl). Sorry, but many folks in here don't know that
[02:46] <toneshifter_> wtf ?
[02:46] <toneshifter_> oh well
[02:46] <Rallias> edbian: gdb: noprocess found
[02:46] <edbian> Rallias: gdm
[02:46] <Rallias> i meant gdm
[02:46] <jrib> ultrixx: you can learn about sasl on freenode's site but keep in mind these messages are meant to disrupt (they are not actually from freenode staff); you should ignore them
[02:46] <edbian> Rallias: alright run sudo gdm
[02:46] <ultrixx> jrib: ok thanks
[02:46] <Scuffy> jrib, just a simple list of debian installed programs that need to be conf.  I don't know what half of the stuff Aptitude lists is!
[02:46] <toneshifter_> ehhhh (-1) channel unsolved :(
[02:46] <xissburg> ActionParsnip: ?
[02:46] <Rallias> edbian: 2 errors
[02:46] <edbian> Rallias: what are they?
[02:47] <edbian> Rallias: The point of this is to get errors from GDM
[02:47] <edbian> Rallias: Try to log in on tty7 and see if you get more errors
[02:47] <Rallias> edbian: failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager, could not acquire name; bailingout
[02:47] <xissburg> question: I have a partiton. It has some windows in it so its format is ntfs. I want to install windows in it later. Do I have to format it to ntfs or the format doesnt matter?
[02:48] <Rallias> edbian tty7 is where plymouth is hiding
[02:48] <escott> xissburg, windows will probably want to do its own formatting, but you can format if you want
[02:48] <xissburg> ok
[02:48] <edbian> Rallias: what?  tty7 should have gdm (the login) on it
[02:48] <JoFo> Hello. Does anybody know what is SASL and how to use it? Was cv99f's message serious?
[02:48] <edbian> Rallias: plymouth is the pretty screen you see while the system is booting
[02:48] <toneshifter_> how to force airmon to start card in proper channel ?
[02:48] <escott> JoFo, no ignore it
[02:49] <Rallias> edbian: never  mind, thats tty8
[02:49] <edbian> Rallias: :D
[02:49] <edbian> brb
[02:49] <toneshifter_> regular airmon-ng start wlan0 x doesn't work
[02:49] <TurkuSama> ugh, diablo went full screen and killed my monitor...
[02:49] <toneshifter_> it keeps starting (mod connection) with channel -1
[02:49] <Rallias> turkusama: diablo :D
[02:50] <TurkuSama> diablo 2*
[02:50] <dansku> ow can I zip a file in many files with 100mb each?
[02:50] <Rallias> toneshifter_: Make sure you disable the network manager before you start hacking into another personswifi
[02:50] <toneshifter_> Rallias did
[02:50] <escott> Rallias, was the name error from gdm? do you have a proper hostname? is the hostname listed in /etc/hosts and mapped to local ip address?
[02:50] <toneshifter_> i've read that there is some path for that
[02:51] <toneshifter_> but im looking for someone who experienced it
[02:51] <escott> dansku, split
[02:51] <dansku> is this a program/?
[02:51] <escott> yes
[02:51] <Rallias> escott:the name errorwas "WARNING **: Could not acquire name: bailingout"
[02:52] <escott> Rallias, what does `hostname` say?
[02:52] <Rallias> escott: "the-fortress" on the tty8
[02:52] <TheNuts> TurkuSama, Yay Diablo. Major nostalgia..
[02:52] <toneshifter_> i mean airmon said that there are some problems so it runs second wi-fi profile mon0
[02:52] <xissburg> I can't access the files in my partitions. I see them in any file window but I click on them and nothing happens. I right click and click Mount and nothing happens. How to access them?
[02:52] <escott> and what is `head /etc/hosts/`
[02:52] <toneshifter_> instead playing with wlano0
[02:52] <xissburg> (I am in Live CD)
[02:52] <toneshifter_> but both wlan0
[02:53] <dansku> escott but i want i t to be many .zip or .rar files
[02:53] <Rallias> escott: localhost first, the-fortress second
[02:53] <toneshifter_> and mon0 are running at channel -1
[02:53] <escott> Rallias, and both to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:53] <Rallias> escott: correct
[02:53] <Rallias> toneshifter_: Better question is, why are you hacking into wifi?
[02:54] <toneshifter_> why not
[02:54] <Rallias> toneshifter_: Last I checked, this channel is not intended for black hat hacking.
[02:54] <toneshifter_> buhehehehe so is testin your own network black hat ?
[02:54] <toneshifter_> :D
[02:54] <toneshifter_> since when ?
[02:54] <Rallias> toneshifter_ IKR?
[02:54] <toneshifter_> btw i guess you should read definition of BH before you start judging me :)
[02:55] <xissburg> Damn, Mount is not working :(
[02:55] <Rallias> toneshifter_: the fact is, people could misinterpret what your saying, and have a history of such
[02:55] <edbian> Rallias: What errors did you get again? Please give the exact error
[02:55] <toneshifter_> xissburg instal ntfs-config
[02:55] <escott> Rallias, thats a rather unhelpful error message. this is happening after you type in your username/password and attempt to login
[02:55] <TurkuSama> not ubuntu related: anyone know the program that allows you to play games online as if a LAN?
[02:55] <TurkuSama> starts with an H?
[02:55] <xissburg> ah
[02:55] <_jop> hey everyone
[02:55] <Rallias> edbian: first: WARNING**: Failed to acquire org.gnome:DisplayManager
[02:56] <toneshifter_> Rallias i gues only idiots misinterpret what im saying, looking for HAXORS everywhere ^_^
[02:56] <Rallias> edbian: second: WARNING**: Could not acquire name; bailing out
[02:56] <Monotoko> TurkuSama, it's made by LogMein
[02:56] <toneshifter_> im just bored
[02:56] <Monotoko> TurkuSama, my friend kept talking about it
[02:56] <Rallias> toneshifter_: Misinterpretation is the reason I'm currently banned from #perl
[02:56] <Monotoko> can't remember what it was called though ._. but you should be able to find it from LogMeIn
[02:56] <toneshifter_> heh as forrest gump said "shit happen" :PD:
[02:56] <TurkuSama> k, appreciate it
[02:56] <toneshifter_> or sth like that :)
[02:57] <TurkuSama> i'll googles it
[02:57] <escott> Rallias, ooooh those are from dbus, is dbus running?
[02:57] <toneshifter_> TurkuSama hamachi
[02:57] <toneshifter_> :P
[02:57] <Rallias> edbian, escott: Thanks for your help, i'm going to try reinstallation
[02:57] <edbian> Rallias: sure?
[02:57] <toneshifter_> not sure if it's running under lnx
[02:58] <Rallias> edbian: I haven't pulled down the svn backup yet, i have no valuable data yet.
[02:58] <TurkuSama> Tonshifter, you rock
[02:58] <TurkuSama> i love you
[02:58] <edbian> Rallias: can you killall gdm  ?
[02:58] <Rallias> edbian: no process found
[02:58] <Rallias> wait...
[02:58] <Rallias> how do I connect to wifi from a tty
[02:58] <edbian> Rallias: why?  It's elaborate
[02:59] <Rallias> base station ssid: phoenix, no password
[02:59] <Rallias> edbian: I'm going to try to do an apt-get upgrade, i remember some errors mentioning gdm last time.
[02:59] <escott> Rallias, you have to use iwconfig, and then run your dhclient
[02:59] <edbian> Rallias: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[02:59] <jrmcm> Im dual booting win7 and ubuntu, is it possible to use my win7 partition in vbox? I have a few programs for work that only work in windows and i dont want to have to leave ubuntu everytime i need them.
[02:59] <TurkuSama> ugh...Hamachi...  y u no free?
[03:00] <escott> jrmcm, i tried that... it turned out poorly
[03:00] <edbian> Rallias: It would be much easier to just connect via a wire.  I'm fairly certain and upgrade will fix your problem.  When searching the web I found many people that claimed they had a partial upgrade or soemthing
[03:00] <Rallias> edbian: the only wire I have is attached to my web server
[03:00] <Rallias> other wires are 2ft or less
[03:00] <edbian> Rallias: ouch
[03:00] <jrmcm> escott: what was the problem?
[03:00] <edbian> Rallias: Try to follow that guide
[03:01] <escott> jrmcm, win7 didn't like that my hardware suddenly changed and decided not to boot under either system. theoretically it should be possible, but it is likely very fragile so be prepared to reinstall windows
[03:01]  * cretsiah prefers wired connections to wifi
[03:01] <escott> jrmcm, remember that windows uses hardware profiles to monitor for valid licenses
[03:01] <cretsiah> sounds like a dell escott
[03:02] <jrmcm> escott: unfortuatly my laptop didnt come with a recovery disk, so i guess ill just keep to my vbox with xp
[03:02] <Rallias> escott: correction, ony hard disk id's
[03:03] <xissburg> what is the most ' neutral' storage format?
[03:03] <xissburg> fat?
[03:03] <edbian> xissburg: What do you mean?
[03:03] <edbian> xissburg: neutral?
[03:03] <linuxhelp> Quick question about partitions, I have an empty partition, 100 GB's. not the windows drive I have now. Will I be able to install on that 100 GB partition and GRUB will take care of the System Drive on C:?
[03:03] <edbian> linuxhelp: yes
[03:04] <xissburg> edbian: ntfs is for windows for example...what is the format that is less tied to an OS?
[03:04] <TurkuSama> my 1Tb was formatted fat32, now i can't transfer my 4gb+ movies on to it
[03:04] <xissburg> haha
[03:04] <IdleOne> xissburg: if you mean accessible by both linux and windows I would say ntfs is your best choice, just to make sure windows can access it also.
[03:04] <edbian> xissburg: I think they can all read fat natively
[03:04] <escott> xissburg, yes fat is the most widely supported, and least featureful fs
[03:04] <LinuxHack3r> So tomorrow the IT guys at work are going to install Windows 7 on my machine, onto a special "windows disk". However, I do a bunch of screweing around with partitions and whatnot. I am thinking of doing this: dd if=/dev/sda of=~/disk1.img (Basically, backing up the install to a file) to save the installation just in case I screw it up at a later point. Shouldn't I be able to format the drive and restore the backup file and it be EXA
[03:04] <edbian> xissburg: But fat has a limited max file size
[03:04] <xissburg> edbian, IdleOne , escott  thanks :)
[03:05] <escott> linuxhelp, yes and yes
[03:05] <xissburg> yea Windows sucks...and we have to keep supporting it...
[03:05] <linuxhelp> okay, thanks :D
[03:07] <escott> LinuxHack3r, you could dd that file right back on top of the disk
[03:07] <shean> hi everybody
[03:07] <shean> somebody in china?
[03:07] <linuxhelp> Will I have an issue with Ubuntu other than not supporting dual monitors out of the box but with two different sized monitors?
[03:07] <LinuxHack3r> escott: Exactly as I was hoping, however if the disk it is installed on is 160GB, will the file be that size or the size of the actual windows install?
[03:08] <PalinBachman2012> LinuxHack3r: you might want to use partimage if you are just backing a partition
[03:08] <KM0201> linuxhelp: what do you mean doesn't support dual monitors "out of the box"? dual monitors works fine for me "out of te box.
[03:08] <L30> He ust mean in 8.10
[03:08] <LinuxHack3r> PalinBachman2012: for the above stated reason? and the partition windows is on will be the only partition...unless 7 uses multiple partitions.
[03:08] <escott> dd will be the size of the disk you are dd'ing from, in other words however large sda is. you can gzip it
[03:08] <linuxhelp> Really? Last time I used linux (might have been a while ago) it just projected same image on two monitors
[03:08] <L30> or with his crummy graphics card
[03:08] <linuxhelp> L30, I have a HD 5850
[03:09] <PalinBachman2012> LinuxHack3r: thats just what I use when i want to back up partitions
[03:09] <twilight0> hi there
[03:09] <PalinBachman2012> but if you are comfortable with dd
[03:09] <KM0201> linuxhelp: you should really understand what you're directing your discontent with.. its not ubuntu/linux, it's ATI that is the problem...
[03:09] <L30> hi .... twilight its gay .... jsut leaving it out there
[03:09] <twilight0> does unity have gnome 3 or 2?
[03:09] <escott> linuxhelp, its impossible to say what problems you might have, but if you can describe your hardware people might be able to give you a sense of the risks
[03:09] <LinuxHack3r> escott: Is it a good idea to gzip it? Will that reduce it's size to within reason? IE windows install =20gb, file is about the same?
[03:09] <shean> somebody hear me?
[03:09] <shean> hello?
[03:09] <twilight0> L30: movie could be gay but i am not
[03:09] <linuxhelp> I apologize. I'm not that really educated on Linux :P just wanting to run and try it out maybe switch over from WIndows
[03:09] <escott> LinuxHack3r, i certainly would
[03:09] <edbian> shean: we can hear you
[03:10]  * L30 gives twilight the benefit of the doubt
[03:10] <twilight0> L30: i have nothing to do with the movie I use this nick from 2004
[03:10] <Monotoko> shean, your in a mainly western room...what do you need?
[03:10] <shean> yeah. so
[03:10] <twilight0> L30: whatever
[03:10] <L30> LOL
[03:10] <L30> XD
[03:10] <KM0201> linuxhelp: no offense, but that is obvious... the problem is not linux... get upset w/ ATI, for not releasing a quality linux driver.
[03:10] <IdleOne> !ot > L30
[03:10] <twilight0> but.. tbh I like Kristen Stewart
[03:10] <shean> i gotta go...
[03:10] <twilight0> isnt she hot?
[03:10] <escott> linuxhelp, mirroring the image on two displays is the default but that can be changed easily
[03:11] <LinuxHack3r> I will try it, before I even start using it. They want to activate it from work there, so the IP will be the same. Makes sense to me. So this is the best way I can figure to get the ability to "install" windows 7 on my machine as I wish, for screwups, etc etc. Unless someone has a better idea.
[03:11] <Rallias> w00t it works again
[03:11] <edbian> Rallias: what did you do?
[03:12] <Rallias> sudo apt-get upgrade, gdm was refusing to update so i did sudo apt-get install gdm and it works now
[03:12] <edbian> Rallias: awesome.  Did you connect to wifi via cli?
[03:12] <Rallias> nah, thats what network-manager is for
[03:12] <edbian> Rallias: How did you run network manager without a gui?
[03:12] <Rallias> edbian: the gui works now
[03:13] <Rallias> plus network-manager has a cli interface too
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> edbian: nmcli ;)
[03:13] <edbian> Rallias: oh, awesome
[03:13] <edbian> Rallias: good job!
[03:13] <edbian> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[03:13] <Janusman> if I have a software source for maverick, but am running natty, will I run into trouble? =)
[03:13] <Rallias> This is a load of my back
[03:13] <edbian> Rallias: :D
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> edbian: personally I use wicd in cli, the curses UI is niiiice
[03:13] <escott> LinuxHack3r, i guess this is a laptop, sure but keep in mind whenever its not online its not getting updates, they may notice if a corporate update keeps disappearing as you reimage the system back to its original install
[03:13] <Rallias> now I don't have to tell my boss I ****** up the corporate laptop while trying an upgrade
[03:14] <edbian> Rallias: haha, you fixed it cause linux is great like that
[03:14] <Rallias> edbian: do you happen to know the solution to ath5k randomly disconnecting?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: shouldn't have given you admin powers, blame them ;)
[03:14] <LinuxHack3r> escott: Desktop. And could that be a problem?
[03:14] <edbian> Rallias: ooo, now
[03:14] <edbian> no
[03:14] <Rallias> oh
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: whe it drops, run:  dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[03:14] <edbian> Rallias: yeah
[03:14] <LinuxHack3r> escott: This is purely for the purpose of me having windows for school increasing my knowledge with 7...has nothing to do with work duties.
[03:15] <escott> LinuxHack3r, no i'm just surprised you have such access to a computer at the office
[03:15] <Rallias> So I get to call Asus about that.Fun stuff.
[03:15] <edbian> Rallias: They won't care I bet
[03:15] <Rallias> They said if it happens again to call back
[03:15] <edbian> Rallias: oh there ya go.  Call em!
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: you may have to just disable ipv6
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Rallias: or add an option to the module to disable n speed
[03:16] <TommyFeticini> I'm having problem with DHCP and apparmor, hoping someone could help me
[03:16] <LinuxHack3r> escott: What do you mean, such access to a computer? I'm sorry, I fail to mention this is my personal machine
[03:16] <TommyFeticini> It won't allow me to access my rndc.key in /etc/dhcp3/
[03:17] <escott> LinuxHack3r, sorry i was misunderstanding the situation. thought this was a work computer or something...
[03:17] <Rallias> ActionParsnip: I'll have to look into that, thanks
[03:17] <escott> LinuxHack3r, if the school is installing win7 for you why don't you just ask them to install it to a specific partition and dual boot
[03:17] <escott> LinuxHack3r, what rules would they have against that?
[03:18] <LinuxHack3r> escott: Oh no, I just wanted to become versed in Access (ok, lets be honest, oobase is nowhere near it, and while I am learning mysql+php, Access is so easy), and a few other tasks. I just want the ability to start from scratch if I end up hosing something. I'm the type that on average installs an OS 6 times a year.
[03:18] <Rallias> LinuxHack3r so they're installing win7 on your laptop or the schools laptop?
[03:19] <Rallias> Woot, server uptime 6 years in 5 seconds.
[03:19] <mahir256> get trisquel and put wine on it
[03:19] <mahir256> no offence to ubuntu
[03:19] <shingen> LinuxHack3r: invest in a 2TB hdd and start using clonezilla religiously... cuts down on reinstall time
[03:19] <LinuxHack3r> escott: Rallias I have a desktop, windows is going on it's own disk, ubuntu will stay on its own. I just want the ability to "go back to fresh" if something changes, or if the harddrive crashes and I need to reinstall, etc. E
[03:19] <LinuxHack3r> shingen: I am looking into clonezilla.
[03:20] <panfist> i'm logging into a lucid server and I see this... http://dpaste.com/540986/
[03:20] <arielsanflo_> linuxhack3r
[03:20] <arielsanflo_> help
[03:20] <panfist> what am i doing wrong? it says i have security updates, but when i try to get the updates, it says i have none
[03:20] <arielsanflo_> chanel de c  spanish
[03:20] <LinuxHack3r> shingen: YES! This is what I am wanting, but all i need to do is mirror it once don't I? IF all I want is the original fresh windows install? I think that's what it does isn't it, basically create disk restore points for an entire partition?
[03:21] <LinuxHack3r> arielsanflo_: ?
[03:21] <escott> panfist, do you need to run apt-get update first?
[03:21] <mahir256> panfist: for one, you are on a maverick server
[03:21] <CkhiKuzad> Note to self, never /list
[03:21] <panfist> mahir256: actually i named it incorrectly when i installed, and i haven't corrected it. it's 10.04.2
[03:21] <arielsanflo_> chanel de lenguaje c en spanish
[03:21] <shingen> LinuxHack3r: yup... the ultimate solution that you want is a virtual machine if you have the cpu cycles, ram and hdd space to spare
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> panfist: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> !es | arielsanflo_
[03:22] <shingen> LinuxHack3r: as virtual machines can restore to snapshots with ease
[03:22] <LinuxHack3r> shingen: Well I do that with XP right now, but I do want the ability for heavier 3d stuff.
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> shingen: assuming a snapshot has been made...
[03:22] <shingen> ActionParsnip: if you're settingup a new vm, why wouldn't you create snapshots?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> shingen: some massochists don't
[03:23] <LinuxHack3r> ActionParsnip: Agreed
[03:23] <panfist> it still says i have zero updates when i try to upgrade
[03:23] <panfist> http://dpaste.com/540987
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> panfist: then don't sweat it
[03:23] <shingen> ActionParsnip: as Forrest Gump says, stupid is is stupid does ;)
[03:24] <mahir256> hmmm...i do wonder if any of you remember 1994
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> panfist: please don't butcher commands like that, if someone gives a command with semicolons and such just run it as one, the interconnecting characters are important
[03:24] <LinuxHack3r> SO is the consensus that if I use clonezilla to image the partition, I can restore it as it was?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> shingen: fact
[03:24] <mahir256> linux was three, gnu was 10, and debian didn't exist (and neither did toy story)
[03:26] <shingen> mahir256: and I was installing slackware on university computers for warez, w00t!
[03:26] <mahir256> rofl, but whatever
[03:27] <shingen> mahir256: nothing beats a non-windows partition and a linux boot disk to access it with a password that only the smart people could remember :)
[03:27] <GnoyNait> i have just installed 11.04. it's cool!
[03:28] <cretsiah> GnoyNait:  i hope so ... im thinking of trying to install it along side 10.10
[03:28] <ubuntu> hello, ive installed ms windows right after install ubuntu and i cant boot ubuntu anymore, how can i fix such problem
[03:28] <shingen> mahir256: blazing fast T1 that I hogged up all to myself and managed to get 85KB/s even though there were at least 300 ppl on the same line in the uni :)
[03:28] <cretsiah> or 1 of my many 1/2 busted laptops raflmao
[03:28] <Jordan_U> !grub | ubuntu
[03:29] <KM0201> !grub2 | ubuntu follow the instructions tor estore grub
[03:29] <mahir256> shingen: yeah...you can stop now
[03:29] <shingen> mahir256: you asked
[03:30] <ubuntu> this guide is confusing for beginners
[03:30] <ubuntu> i dont know how to mount the ubuntu partition to my places thing
[03:30] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Indeed. It's unfortunate.
[03:30] <mahir256> shingen: eh, not really
[03:30] <escott> ubuntu, feel free to pm me if you want a walkthrough
[03:30] <kerNULL> i took off a program but its icon is still listed with my proograms... how do i remove that?
[03:30] <ubuntu> k
[03:30] <Jordan_U> !pm | escott
[03:31] <jon5000> can anyone assist me in setting up a dell bluetooth mouse?  i have looked all over google but it seems all the info is for other/older versions of ubuntu and involve commands and files that dont exist
[03:31] <shingen> mahir256: hmmm...i do wonder if any of you remember 1994
[03:31] <mahir256> kerNULL: what x environment are you using?
[03:31] <kerNULL> unity
[03:31] <mahir256> shingen: shut up
[03:31] <shingen> mahir256:  you asked, next time don't... and please don't be rude since I'm just answering your question
[03:32] <Jordan_U> escott: The "benefit from your questions and answers and ensure you're not getting bad advice" specifically. It's not critical if ubuntu has problems following this fast channel, but it's preffered to stay in-channel.
[03:32] <mahir256> shingen: oh sorry
[03:32] <escott> Jordan_U, i don't think we need a the 1001st person asking what the grub reinstall means
[03:32] <GnoyNait> kerNULL: unity is good, I think
[03:33] <escott> and it is critical to him to get his system booting, and to be able to follow
[03:33] <kerNULL> ya i still want the left over icon removed
[03:33] <cretsiah> has any1 got jwm on there ubuntu10.10??
[03:34] <LPT1> Where's the best place to store SSL keys and certificates? They would be used for Webmin which runs as root and Apache that runs under restricted account.
[03:34] <lynette_> <---<< wonders if this is the whisper channel!
[03:34] <GnoyNait> which software is good to download files from the internet?
[03:35] <mahir256> hmmm...ever tried jdownloader?
[03:35] <lynette_> Gnoy: I use what came with Natty
[03:35] <Rehan> does anyone know how i can convert an mp3 file to an aiff file in ubuntu?
[03:36] <arielsanflo_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/605970/
[03:37] <mahir256> Rehan: first off, who uses aiff? second, gnome audio converter might work
[03:37] <Rehan> mahir256: need it for iphone
[03:37] <GnoyNait> mahir256: is that fast?
[03:38] <lynette_> is that safe? [wants her location to stay unknown]
[03:39] <qin> lynette_: /whois lynette_
[03:39] <mahir256> yes, rehan and gnoynait, it is fast. requires gstreamer
[03:39] <mysteriousdarren> lynette_ : go to #freenode and ask for a cloak or vhost
[03:40] <GnoyNait> mahir256: OK. I'll try. Thanks
[03:40] <Kodec> back | track 5 Released ? or not yet ?
[03:41] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | Kodec
[03:41] <Shoulin> Hello
[03:41] <Shoulin> Harry Patch
[03:42] <Shoulin> What's the feeling about 11.04
[03:42] <pooky> I moved to xubuntu, lolz
[03:42] <toddc> good
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Shoulin: If you don't have a specific support question please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:43] <Shoulin> Ok sorry - new to this
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Shoulin: np.
[03:47] <zghaia> why I can't repeat to play one song by using the button in play menu of banshee?
[03:48] <qin> zghaia: while true; do mplayer <yoursong>; done; (I know it is not bansheee)
[03:49] <canthus13> How can I find out what is using up all my bandwidth.  I've got about 200-400KiB/sec coming into my machine and I can't find a single reason for it. No torrents, no video streams...
[03:49] <qin> canthus13: iftop
[03:49] <canthus13> qin: thank you. I forgot what that was called. :)
[03:50] <wn1zid> how to bounce emails with Evolution ??  any one know how to or direct me to a site with instructions ? thanks
[03:50] <zghaia> qin: OK ,but banshee make me crazy.
[03:50] <Maxk> hi im thinking of updating from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop is there any problems or will it only get better?
[03:50] <qin> zghaia: Try mocp
[03:51] <_jop> Maxk, are you using nvidia with the nvidia driver supplied by ubuntu?
[03:51] <cholo> Anyone familiar with a typical cut/copy & paste bug , where it delays your mousepad/touchpad from moving the mouse/pointer for a split second.. (very noticable)
[03:51] <Maxk> _jop no
[03:51] <escott> canthus13, ntop
[03:51] <zghaia> qin: The button in the play menu of banshee there just can't be clicked.Thanks for your help.
[03:51] <Jordan_U> Maxk: There are always regressions, and improvements. We can't say for sure which will apply to your particular situation.
[03:51] <cholo> Has it anythign tod o with this:
[03:51] <cholo> Top causes for wakeups: 34.1% (429.8)   PS/2 keyboard/mouse/touchpad interrupt
 The only issue I had was with the nvidia driver, worked fine otherwise
[03:52] <Maxk> _jop ok thx for the help will update today
 u might also wait until some other ppl let u know of any issues :P
 Just in case
[03:53] <cholo> anyone?
[03:54] <TurkuSama> i had this problem with 11.04 not booting properly unless i did a hard boot
[03:54] <cholo> Anyone familiar with a typical cut/copy & paste bug , where it delays your mousepad/touchpad from moving the mouse/pointer for a split second.. (very noticable)
[03:54] <TurkuSama> doesnt do it anymore for some reason
[03:55] <TurkuSama> and it only really happened when i would just restart
[03:56] <Songi> Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone is able to help me. I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu and had a question that I have not been able to find while searching. It concerns running the Curse Client on Ubuntu 11.04
[03:57] <twentee_> Is it possible to put the netbook style of 10.04 on Lubuntu 11.04?
[03:58] <twentee_> I fully installed the Unity and 2D repos but it loads to an X-Server error
[03:59] <escott> Songi, do you mean curses?
[04:00] <ouyes> is it technically possible to make a laptop output a display to a second screen with a different resolutions?
[04:00] <Songi> No, I mean the Curse Client. It is a Windows/Mac based Add-on manager for the game World of Warcraft. Thank you also for answering.
[04:01] <escott> ouyes, yes with xrandr or gnome-display-properties (unless you use nvidia, and then its something else)
[04:01] <cholo> Anyone familiar with a typical cut/copy & paste bug , where it delays your mousepad/touchpad from moving the mouse/pointer for a split second.. (very noticable)
[04:01] <twentee_> Yeah nvidia can be a pain in the rear
[04:02] <canthus13> escott: Hmm.. thanks. ntop's a bit of overkill for my laptop, though. I wonder how much load it would put on my router...
[04:03] <ouyes> escott, would please tell me how to do with xrandr I have installed grandr, and tried to configure my laptop to output a resolution of 1280X1024 to my 19 inch second screen, but there is always problem
[04:04] <rcconf> hello
[04:04] <escott> ouyes, so first run xrandr to see what the known modes are. it should show supported resolutions for both screens
[04:04] <rcconf> Current status This author has attempted to load all Conexant (cx*), BTTV (card=52), SAA*, IVTV and em28xx modules provided with the Linux 2.6.18 kernel but no /dev/video* devices appear after restarting udev. The test machine is an HP xw9300 Workstation running Debian Etch amd64.
[04:04] <rcconf> In order for this card to work on Linux, a Pinnacle AV/DV2 Linux driver is needed to be written.
[04:04] <rcconf> ok but now the kernel is updated  how can I load all those mentioned modules ?
[04:04] <Daemonik> How may I disable Pulseaudio on Ubuntu 10.10?
[04:04] <ouyes> escott, yes then ?
[04:05] <escott> rcconf, modprobe module_name
[04:05] <rcconf> escott: "Conexant" doesnt exist
[04:05] <rcconf> hm
[04:05] <bin_bash> What's the best way to create a command alias? I want to make the command "mocp" execute "mocp -T moca_theme"
[04:05] <rcconf>  I mean there is cx*
[04:05] <rcconf> modules
[04:05] <rcconf> bin_bash: nano .bashrc
[04:05] <escott> ouyes, looking at the man page ;)
[04:05] <bin_bash> lol nano
[04:05] <bin_bash> I'll use VIM. ty
[04:06] <rcconf> bin_bash: then alias mocp='mocp -T moca_theme'
[04:06] <CyanPrime1> Hi, I need somepeople to help me test a client/server program on linux 32 bit
[04:06] <bin_bash> ok
[04:06] <Daemonik> bin_bash, You're immature. rcconf doesn't care what editor you use, nor does any one else.
[04:06] <ouyes> escott, there is no manuals for grandr
[04:06] <bin_bash> I care. I don't want to install nano.
[04:06] <rcconf> lol
[04:07] <escott> ouyes, xrandr --output LVDS1 1024x768 --output VGA1 640x480 --left-of LVDS1
[04:07] <CyanPrime1> Anyone willing to help?
[04:07] <escott> ouyes, something like that
[04:07] <ubuntu> any1 know if steam games would run well with ubuntu + wine + i7 860 2.8 ghz, ati hd 5670 1gb, 2gb ram etc?
[04:07] <rcconf> !anyone | CyanPrime1
[04:07] <bin_bash> rcconf: Just add it to the bottom, I reckon?
[04:07] <arielsanflo> #laweb
[04:07] <qin> bin_bash: There is config for moc (usefull)
[04:07] <rcconf> bin_bash: I added mine to top
[04:07] <rcconf> add
[04:07] <TurkuSama> ubuntu: virtmachine/win7/install/?????/profitt
[04:07] <CyanPrime1> :\
[04:08] <CyanPrime1> Hi, I need somepeople to help me test a client/server program on linux 32 bit
[04:08] <escott> ouyes, you could swap in the resolutions you want and the output (which for you might not be VGA1 it might be HDMI1 or something else)
[04:08] <ubuntu> wouldnt a vm hurt the performace and make it even worst than using wine?
[04:08] <phungvantu> hi all
[04:08] <TurkuSama> ubuntu: what game are you trying to play?
[04:08] <rcconf> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[04:08] <rcconf> mixer: Can't open device /dev/mixer, mixer volume and mute unavailable.
[04:08] <rcconf> see?
[04:08] <bin_bash> rcconf: great. thanks.
[04:09] <ubuntu> TurkuSama, tf2
[04:09] <CyanPrime1> Sure is helpful in here :\
[04:09] <rcconf> so I need to load the modules and restart udev?
[04:09] <rcconf> CyanPrime1: ##linux
[04:09] <ubuntu> TurkuSama, as described b4 with an i7 860 2.8ghz & ati hd 5670 1gb
[04:09] <bin_bash> !ask | CyanPrime1
[04:09] <rcconf> help me o.o
[04:09] <bin_bash> lolol
[04:09] <CyanPrime1> Hi, I need somepeople to help me test a client/server program on linux 32 bit
[04:09] <CyanPrime1> Hi, I need somepeople to help me test a client/server program on linux 32 bit
[04:09] <CyanPrime1> It has been asked
[04:09] <CyanPrime1> wtf
[04:09] <phungvantu> sometimes, i was kicked out from my session in Natty?
[04:09] <FloodBot1> CyanPrime1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <bin_bash> mk go to ##linux then
[04:09] <phungvantu> Pls, help
[04:09] <AaeRohn> ok, poking around again... I need to get my adobe vistablet to work, and I have no idea how... The driver that's spposed to work with it is in and workign, but the tablet doesnt work right...
[04:10] <bin_bash> phungvantu: which ui are you using?
[04:10] <zackleonhart> help
[04:10] <escott> ubuntu, the problem you would have is not being able to pipe direct3d from windows guest into opengl calls on the ubuntu host
[04:10] <celthunder> AaeRohn: doesn't work right how
[04:10] <qin> CyanPrime1: Post linky to info and code in /msg
[04:10] <TurkuSama> the ati drivers might prove to be a problem
[04:10] <ubuntu> so the best solution is to run it under a vm?
[04:11] <ubuntu> i honestly dont want to install windows and do a dual-boot
[04:11] <ubuntu> would a vm hurt the performace ALOT or just a little bit?
[04:11] <TurkuSama> little
[04:11] <ubuntu> k
[04:11] <KM0201> CyanPrime1: thats not really an ubuntu issue anyway, so its offtopic here.. .
[04:11] <celthunder> ubuntu: depends on virtualization technology used as well as hardware running it and the amount dedicated to the vm
[04:11] <escott> ubuntu, if you want 3d graphics in both systems usually people run win7 as the host and ubuntu as the guest and install the guest additions to ubuntu. i don't know of any guest additions for windows that would enable 3d graphics with an ubuntu host
[04:11] <AaeRohn> celthunder: no pressure sensitivity, and when I let up on the pen, it stops till I pull the pen far enough away that the tablet itself doesnt sense it
[04:12] <phungvantu> Show me how to see log file to see what happens with my system since 1 minutes before?
[04:12] <ubuntu> k
[04:12] <celthunder> CyanPrime1: what program client/server
[04:12] <escott> rcconf, modprobe -l *cx* if nothing comes up then they are in /lib/modules
[04:12] <celthunder> phungvantu: what log file tail /var/log/<logfile> works in general
[04:13] <CyanPrime1> It's just a proof of conecpt right now, celthunder
[04:13] <rcconf> escott: it will load all the modules at once?
[04:13] <celthunder> CyanPrime1: ok what's the concept?
[04:13] <escott> rcconf, the "-l" just lists
[04:13] <rcconf> eh
[04:13] <CyanPrime1> celthunder, making blocks move over the network lol
[04:13] <zghaia> qin: mocp is great,:).
[04:14] <celthunder> CyanPrime1: blocks of ?
[04:14] <fanzhen> install virtaulbox on my Ubuntu desktop --->Errors were encountered while processing: virtualbox-4.0
[04:14] <KM0201> CyanPrime1: this isn't an ubuntu issue... try asking in #linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <rcconf> escott: it shows like this kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88xx.ko
[04:14] <phungvantu> i has just been kicked out from my session
[04:14] <fanzhen> can anyone help me ???
[04:14] <rcconf> !ko
[04:14] <phungvantu> How to find out problem
[04:14] <celthunder> fanzhen: more info needed?
[04:14] <rcconf> what is .ko extension? driver?
[04:14] <KM0201> fanzhen: have you tried addin the virtual box repository?
[04:14] <escott> rcconf, so you could modprobe cx88xx. but it might make more sense to actually identify the video card first, is lspci not definitive?
[04:15] <ubuntu> !xfce
[04:15] <rcconf> escott: it shows the capture card
[04:15] <escott> rather the webcam
[04:15] <rcconf> escott: but it wont open /dev/video0
[04:15] <ubuntu> !lubuntu
[04:15] <escott> rcconf, can you paste the relevant lspci line?
[04:15] <rcconf> escott: "they" say a linux driver must be written.. but i want to test all those modules.
[04:15] <fanzhen> KM0201:yes, installed it from deb
[04:15] <rcconf> escott: just a second
[04:16] <fanzhen> (Reading database ... 201098 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:16] <fanzhen> Preparing to replace virtualbox-4.0 4.0.6-71344~Ubuntu~lucid (using virtualbox-4.0_4.0.6-71344~Ubuntu~lucid_i386.deb) ...
[04:16] <fanzhen> Unpacking replacement virtualbox-4.0 ...
[04:16] <fanzhen> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of virtualbox-4.0:
[04:16] <fanzhen>  virtualbox-4.0 depends on libqt4-opengl (>= 4:4.5.3); however:
[04:16] <escott> rcconf, who is "they" v4l?
[04:16] <FloodBot1> fanzhen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <fanzhen>   Package libqt4-opengl is not installed.
[04:16] <fanzhen> dpkg: error processing virtualbox-4.0 (--install):
[04:16] <Kage> I am having major driver, boot, etc issues...   I installed the propertiary Ati Driver, and everything went to hell
[04:16] <Kage> I tried to back out of it
[04:16] <celthunder> fanzhen: so install libqt4
[04:16] <celthunder> fanzhen: it says what to do
[04:16] <Kage> and things went from bad to worst
[04:16] <fanzhen> ok,I will try
[04:16] <rcconf> escott: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LTy2SLRv
[04:17] <rcconf> all info there
[04:17] <rcconf> sudo lspci -vvnnn
[04:17] <KM0201> fanzhen: i dunno, i used the natty repo, and it worked fine
[04:17] <ubuntu> how can i install ubuntu without any desktop environment and add something like blackbox to manage the desktop to it? ive never found a `clean` installation without desktop environments and their default apps
[04:18] <fanzhen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605984/
[04:18] <KM0201> ubuntu: you'd probably want to install ubuntu-server... then add the GUI of choice to it
[04:18] <slakcphil> ubuntu: install server and then xorg and blackbox
[04:18] <rcconf> escott: so I just try cx* drivers in kernel/drivers/media/video/ ?
[04:18] <escott> rcconf, you can try to modprobe lots of stuff, but usually it won't load because it can't find the device
[04:18] <ubuntu> ok
[04:18] <DinVitamin> Does anybody know of any non-browser-based ways to display full-screen media content such as news, weather, etc.?
[04:18] <slakcphil> i have done it with fluxbox
[04:18] <phungvantu> how to understand log file
[04:18] <rcconf> phungvantu: which one
[04:19] <phungvantu> i want to find out a problem
[04:19] <slakcphil> if you install gnome-desktop-environment you get a light gnome
[04:19] <rcconf> escott: why cant it find the /dev/video
[04:19] <phungvantu> with system log
[04:19] <ubuntu> i cant find the server one in downlads @ official site
[04:19] <ubuntu> where`s exactly is it?
[04:20] <escott> rcconf, /dev/video won't be created until there is a video device, which won't happen until there is a kernel module that understands your device
[04:20] <ubuntu> !server
[04:20] <rcconf> escott: so I need to load the modules :)
[04:20] <rcconf> escott: and restart udev?
[04:20] <slakcphil> ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[04:20] <celthunder> DinVitamin: uh a news reader client set to autoupdate? (dunno)
[04:20] <zackleonhart> help
[04:21] <PsyForce> does anyone know why the number shortcuts have disappeared when I hold the super key? they seemed to work yesterday
[04:21] <escott> rcconf, if the v4l wiki says it doesn't have a driver it probably doesn't have a driver
[04:21] <zackleonhart> nick help
[04:21] <zackleonhart> nick /help
[04:21] <rcconf> escott: thats why I want to try loading the modules
[04:21] <TurkuSama> place / in front of nick
[04:21] <rcconf> escott: so I just load the modules ? do i need restart udev?
[04:21] <slakcphil> ubuntu: then sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install -y xorg fluxbox;sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade &
[04:22] <ubuntu> slakcphil, it will also auto-install my drivers like normal ubuntu
[04:22] <ubuntu> ?
[04:22] <escott> rcconf, if they recognize a device they will load. if there is no device they shouldn't load. if they load udev should see that and create the device file
[04:22] <Kage> Is there a way to reset graphics I.E. drivers / settings to that of time of install?
[04:22] <slakcphil> ubuntu, huh?
[04:22] <bin_bash> All of a sudden out of nowhere, my trackpad has stopped responding properly
[04:22] <rcconf> escott: ok im gonna try
[04:22] <bin_bash> I can still scroll with it
[04:23] <tbruff13> escott, I am using ubuntu 10.10 but I want the newest Awn release without upgrading they said i can do that by installing this ppa ppa:awn-testing/ppa once i install it what command do i use to upgrade the packages or do i have to reinstall and if i have to reinstall how do i reinstall from the testing ppa
[04:23] <rcconf> escott: what does this means http://hardware4linux.info/component/32381/
[04:23] <slakcphil> ubuntu, oh... like video stuff? yeah the kernel will load something...
[04:23] <escott> tbruff13, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[04:23] <ubuntu> slakcphil, yup, ubuntu has something that auto install the 3rd party drivers
[04:23] <TurkuSama> awn is that dock right?
[04:23] <rcconf> oh forget.
[04:23] <TurkuSama> Cairo better
[04:23] <t3k_no> hello
[04:23] <t3k_no> need help...
[04:23] <escott> rcconf, nothing useful. thats just info from your lspci command
[04:24] <tbruff13> escott, will that upgrade my distrubution because i dont want to do that
[04:24] <t3k_no> trying to do updates through the Update Manager
[04:24] <slakcphil> ubuntu, yeah I think there is something in gnome for that
[04:24] <ubuntu> what apt-get -y dist-upgrade & do? i`m aware that the other apt-get ones will install the blackbox + xorg
[04:24] <escott> tbruff13, no that would be dist-upgrade
[04:24] <slakcphil> ubuntu, it will upgrade all your packages and kernel
[04:24] <rcconf> escott: how that guy found out which modules to try? Conexant (cx*), BTTV (card=52), SAA*, IVTV and em28xx
[04:24] <t3k_no> but it says "Not enought free disk space" '/'
[04:24] <escott> rcconf, he didn't figure out anything, he just tried everything :)
[04:25] <SinnerNyx> I have a development VM running Ubuntu Server 11.04. When I do a PHPInfo it says that it is protected by the suhosin patch. I need to remove this 'protection'. I'm told I have to build PHP myself in order to do this
[04:25] <SinnerNyx> However I have never successfully done a build. How would I go about doing this?
[04:25] <AaeRohn> ok, simplified, my Vistablet doesnt have pressure sensitivity, can someone help me resolve that?
[04:25] <rcconf> escott: so those modules are all from video devices?
[04:25] <rcconf> for
[04:25] <tbruff13> escott, how long can we contiinue to use 10.10 will they make us upgrade
[04:25] <escott> ubuntu, you are already on 11.04 so dist-upgrade is not needed it would take you to 11.10 which isn't available
[04:25] <t3k_no> any ideas??
[04:25] <ubuntu> k
[04:26] <t3k_no> help or links would be greatly appreciated...
[04:26] <rcconf> tbruff13: ofc not lol
[04:26] <rcconf> tbruff13: you only upgrade when you want
[04:26] <KM0201> escott: actually, it would only take you to 11.10, if you had enabled the 11.10 repo...
[04:26] <KM0201> or at least thats my epxerience
[04:26] <escott> tbruff13, honestly i dont know exactly. i think you keep getting security updates for like 6 months or so. the !lts which is 10.04 has a 2 year? support period
[04:26] <rcconf> no it's more
[04:26] <rcconf> time
[04:27] <tbruff13> rcconf, can we get the new repository without having to upgrade to 11.04
[04:27] <rcconf> i dont know
[04:27] <jelatta> hellp, i was wondering if i can edit the "quick search box" params, like use it to search google and whatnot
[04:27] <escott> rcconf, they are all drivers to video devices which you dont have
[04:27] <rcconf> different repositories for different verison
[04:27] <trism> escott: apt-get dist-upgrade; doesn't upgrade between distros, it is the same as upgrade, except it will select new packages if they are required (unless, as KM0201 said, you changed your sources.list to point to a new version)
[04:27] <CyanPrime1> Got one person on the client! Looking for someone else to test mutiable connections! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28109593/metashipClient.zip
[04:28] <rcconf> escott: yes but are those "all" the drivers available?
[04:28] <escott> trism, KM0201 ok thanks i don't use the commnd line apt enough
[04:28] <rcconf> escott: what about this one kernel/drivers/misc/eeprom/eeprom_93cx6.ko
[04:28] <escott> rcconf, if you really want this to work you need to figure out the chipset they use for their video capture by opening the case and inspecting the card, and then finding if there are other drivers that use the same chipset and trying those
[04:29] <CyanPrime1> Got one person on the client! Looking for someone else to test mutiable connections! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28109593/metashipClient.zip
[04:29] <exiff> is there a separate ubuntu one channel?
[04:29] <matt__> Anyone familiar with dd and ff, please takea  look here and tell me what could be going wrong: http://pastebin.com/re0EHPAv
[04:29] <rcconf> escott: there is an image http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/File:Studio700PCICard.jpg
[04:29] <bin_bash> Has anyone had the experience with their trackpad suddenly not controlling the cursor?
[04:30] <slakcphil> bin_bash, yes:)
[04:30] <SinnerNyx> Trying to build php myself without suhosin
[04:30] <SinnerNyx> how do I do this?
[04:30] <bin_bash> slakcphil: How'd you fix it?
[04:30] <rcconf> escott: how the hell i know the chipset? lol
[04:30] <tbruff13> escott, it did not work i want the new awn with the terminal applet bug fixed i added the repository upgrade and it did not change
[04:30] <slakcphil> bin_bash, it's crazy it comes and goes and when it does it will even right click something even though I have tap to click disabled
[04:31] <slakcphil> I haven't fixed it
[04:31] <bin_bash> slakcphil: I can click and scroll
[04:31] <slakcphil> when it does the little ball still works and grabs well
[04:31] <bin_bash> which is the weird part
[04:31] <TommyFeticini> Is anybody good with AppArmour here? As in how it works?
[04:32] <Sterile> guys, complete noob here, I have no idea how to run SAGE on ubuntu... I need to do the following: ln -s ~/Desktop/sage/sage /usr/local/bin/sage
[04:32] <slakcphil> bin_bash, I have noticed it happens around the times I run TeamViewer on a Dell D600
[04:32] <Sterile> but then I type sage in the terminal and it does nothing
[04:32] <escott> rcconf, your best bet is to get this card in the hands of a developer, you could browse the v4l mailing list and see if anyone has expressed interest in the card. in some cases developers provide drivers in exchange for hardware or beer, but throwing random kernel modules at it isn't going to work well
[04:33] <Sterile> I'm following this btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SAGE#Getting%20Started%20With%20Sage
[04:33] <rcconf> escott: v4l?