[00:00] <macd> Xeon, did you try clicking the add button
[00:00] <Xeon> Yeah.
[00:00] <WalloO> Xeon, the layout is canadian/canadian
[00:00] <murlidhar> thehurley, what exactly do u want?
[00:01] <macd> Xeon, I see Canada/French  Canada/Frech(classic)  as well as some others that are too long to ttype ;)
[00:01] <Xeon> WalloO: Well I dont see that
[00:01] <Oney> So I finally did it.
[00:01] <Xeon> macd: Really?! What desktop do you use?
[00:01] <Oney> After 1.5 years of debating, I decided to install Ubuntu on my desktop PC.
[00:01] <Xeon> By desktop I mean gnome kde etc
[00:01] <macd> Xeon, click add, then the layout dropdown has Canada , right?
[00:02] <DoubleD> Oney: which version ?
[00:02] <Xeon> Yeah, nothing about those
[00:02] <WalloO> Xeon, for keytbord layout at the top of the canadian list, there is only Canadian, and this is the layout for common canadian keyboard
[00:02] <Xeon> I'll list the,
[00:02] <thehurley> ok, i have windows on hd0,0 and ubuntu on hd0,5 - ubuntu is booting by default, but i need windows to boot by default (sorry I use windows for work every day)
[00:02] <macd> Xeon, if I wasnt on gnome, I couldnt have told you howto open the Keyboard dialog ;P
[00:02] <Colin1> Geez.. ubuntu is wicked awesome.  I finally got it to look great... and now I can't get enough of it. xD
[00:02] <Oney> Anyone in here use XChat?
[00:03] <Blaqlight> yeah my version of quickbooks manufacturing and wholesale does not work in Wine. the install just dies.
[00:03] <Sidgrani_> Is there a hardware-detection in ubuntu and how do i start it? My wlan-device is gone.
[00:03] <CatCheeto> Does anyone have a guide for setting up apache for a complete newb?
[00:03] <Xeon> macd: Oh right. Wallo0 the top one is Default which I guess is the equivalent. That one is perfect but for the at sign that doesnt work. What version of ubuntu are you guys on?
[00:03] <murlidhar> thehurley, sudo apt-get install startup-manager
[00:03] <thehurley> murlidhar thank you
[00:03] <Blaqlight> Oney, Im using it now
[00:03] <wirelessdreamer> can anyone here get perl module cpan installs to work in 8.04? even when I add 'dontload_hash' => {"Net::FTP" => 1, "LWP" =>1 }, to Config.pm i can't disable lwp and cpan hangs
[00:03] <Oney> Blaqlight: how do I add more servers to auto join and stuff?
[00:03] <murlidhar> wols_, u there?
[00:03] <Oney> I use XChat in Windows but I can't figure it out on here. =P
[00:03] <macd> Xeon, you prolly need to install the locales for your region then,  Im reading install notes from the livecd, it states if you dont select the proper keyboard option at install, you can manually change it later by installing the locales package
[00:04] <WalloO> Xeon, altCar+2 doesn't work?
[00:04] <Xeon> macd: I got default, french dvorak, french legacy, multilingual part 1 2 and secwepemtsim
[00:04] <m_newton> any one know a realy good font site?
[00:04] <Scunizi> Oney: did you load xchat or xchat-gnome?
[00:04] <Oney> XChat-gnome =[
[00:04] <macd> Xeon, then whats the problem, you said Canada/French youve got it right in front of you.
[00:04] <WalloO> Xeon, moi j'ai ubuntu 8.04, mais avec les précédentes, c'étit pareil
[00:04] <Blaqlight> Oney, goto Network then it should all be in there.
[00:04] <Xeon> macd: Do you know how to install those local packages?
[00:05] <Scunizi> Oney: uninstall that and install xchat.. both are in synaptic.. xchat has more features (I think) and is probably a more familure interface.
[00:05] <murlidhar> Oney, that's the problem . install xchat not xchat-gnome
[00:05] <aSmig> how do I get libglade-perl in Hardy?  seems to not be in universe any more
[00:05] <macd> Xeon, you already listed the right ones, you dont need to isntall anything
[00:05] <Xeon> Wallo0, I got no altcar keys and what did you do then?
[00:05] <DoubleD> 8.04 sucks, in my opinion
[00:05] <Xeon> macd: French dvorak is dvorak, and french legacy isnt the same as french canadian :P
[00:05] <AngryElf> is there some app I can use to transfer files to my new sony walkman phone?
[00:05] <murlidhar> DoubleD, it is ok in my opinion
[00:05] <aSmig> I've been having a number of issues with 8.04
[00:05] <macd> DoubleD, good thing this is the support channel and not offtopic so opinions arent really needed here ;) #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[00:06] <macd> Xeon, is default Canada french ?
[00:06] <Xeon> Those arent the one im looking for macd. Basically I want french accents, I want shift + 2 to produce " and alt ctrl 2 to produce at
[00:06] <WalloO> Xeon, if you don't have a altCar just at the right of your space bar, this is not a canadian keyboard. Is it a standard candian french keyboard?
[00:06] <Xeon> Its supposed to be, but my alt ctrl 2 wont work
[00:06] <DoubleD> its ontopic :p. my network chipset card is the most common chipset there is, and its not working under 8.04
[00:06]  * macd thinks Wallo0 can help you better Xeon
[00:06] <DoubleD> but it was working in 7.10. so someone changed something, for the worse.
[00:06] <WalloO> Xeon, it'S not alt+ctrl+2 it'S altCar+2
[00:07] <macd> DoubleD, topic would be howto fix your issue, not commenting on the current state of ubuntu.
[00:07] <Xeon> Wallo0, I have both a logitech s510 and a "microsoft basic keyboard" and under windows im used to do alt ctrl 2 to make an at sign...
[00:07] <macd> DoubleD, what chipset do you have (paste line from lspci)
[00:07] <Xeon> macd: thanks for the help.
[00:07] <eago> whats a nice vnc that doesn't require login?
[00:07] <DoubleD> macd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22459/
[00:07] <WalloO> Xeon, ha ok.. I don't know that. I used altCar both in windows and ubuntu
[00:07] <macd> eago, most likely whatever one you configure for passwordless login.
[00:08] <Blaqlight> eago they all do.
[00:08] <Oney> XChat isn't in there only XChat-gnome. =(
[00:08] <Oney> I used Wubi.
[00:08] <Oney> Idk if that makes a difference.
[00:08] <Xeon> Wallo0: Aw ok. Jeez such a shame, lunix cest 10 fois meilleur que windows :(
[00:08] <Blaqlight> vnc can be set up not to accept passwords though
[00:08] <thesaint4444> hi guys, how do I set up my system to boot into a shell not gnome? thanks.
[00:08] <aSmig> is there a site I can go look at to find out why a package is removed from ubuntu?
[00:08] <savio>  alguem do brasil
[00:08] <eago> hmm... so I can't use vnc to run a computer that has no keyboard or monitor?
[00:09] <macd> eago, synergy might fit your bil of needs better.
[00:09] <murlidhar> Oney, apt-cache search xchat
[00:09] <WalloO> Xeon, ben moi mon clavier marche. Il est possible que certains raccourcis soient différents entre widows et Gnome
[00:09] <Blaqlight> correction not to require passwords
[00:09] <Oney> murlidhar: I'm a n00b sooo...
[00:09] <Oney> Not complete computer n00b but Linux n00b. =P
[00:09] <koshari> can i roll back a metapackage and all the packages it depends while leaving the ones that were present initially,
[00:09] <murlidhar> Oney, just type it in the terminal
[00:09] <Blaqlight> eago, I use it exclusively for that here.
[00:10] <Xeon> Wallo0: Ouin... Oh well, im gonna try reinstalling ubuntu and see what I can do. Thanks for the help. You too macd.
[00:10] <macd> DoubleD, I dont see an issue there other than your nic isnt aquiring an address, does your network use static or dhcp?
[00:10] <Oney> Okay I did that murlidhar
[00:10] <Blaqlight> Oney, type sudo aptitude install xchat
[00:10] <eago> Blaqlight : synergy or vnc?
[00:10] <Blaqlight> eago, both work,
[00:10] <eago> macd : synergy page says it needs a monitor per computer
[00:11] <Blaqlight> oh wait
[00:11] <murlidhar> Oney, did u see xchat in there ?
[00:11] <macd> eago, you said no keyboard/mouse, you didnt mention no monitor ;P
[00:11] <LetsGo67> !dvd
[00:11] <Blaqlight> yeah then only VNC
[00:11] <Oney> It's going.
[00:11] <m_newton> How do i open fonts:///
[00:11] <Oney> I typed what Blaqlight said.
[00:11] <Blaqlight> I use VNC to run my router
[00:11] <eago> Blaqlight : how do you login without monitor and keyboard?
[00:11] <macd> eago, ohh,you did say no monitor, sorry
[00:11] <Oney> @ murlidhar
[00:11] <eago> :)
[00:11] <Blaqlight> youve gotta set it up withone first
[00:12] <Blaqlight> it has a mouse right?
[00:12] <eago> cna you rmeove a monitor while the computer is on?
[00:12] <murlidhar> Oney, n ow  type sudo aptitude install xchat
[00:12] <Peronthious> This may seem like a stupid question, but how do you add servers in XChat?  I'm used to it having a "New Server" option in the Connect dialog.
[00:12] <murlidhar> hmmm
[00:12] <Oney> Blaqlight, w00t
[00:12] <Oney> We're good. =D
[00:12] <notapplicable> I believe this is the right place to ask this question, this computer never had a root password set to it, but it requires one to install this printer driver, I'm at a loss for what to do, is there a way to start from scratch with the root password, but preserve what's already on the computer?
[00:12] <notapplicable> (Sorry for the spam)
[00:12] <dotech_> anyone here recommend a good rss reader for ubuntu? :)
[00:13] <Peronthious> I just use thunderbird for RSS
[00:13] <WalloO> Peronthious, Xchat->network list... and here you can add the one you want or use one of the proposed servers
[00:13] <murlidhar> notapplicable, sudo passwd root
[00:13] <dotech_> Peronthious: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[00:13] <WalloO> dotech_, thunderbird...
[00:13] <DoubleD> macd: did you look at the link i gave you ?
[00:13] <Blaqlight> notapplicable, the first created user is the root user.
[00:13] <dotech_> WalloO: okay
[00:13] <mdeias> hello
[00:13] <WalloO> dotech_, it's very usefull to read your e-mails too...
[00:13] <mdeias> was anybody able to install java on ubuntu 64bit_
[00:13] <notapplicable> Thanks Murlidhar :D
[00:14] <Blaqlight> notapplicable, so it would be sudo and the first created user's password
[00:14] <macd> DoubleD, yes, and nothing there indicates an issue with your driver, the message your seeing in dmesg, was discussed in a kernel mailing list thread, and is also filed as a bug in Launchpad (but it is not)
[00:14] <dotech_> WalloO: i'll check it out, haven't used it before
[00:14] <LetsGo67> How do I play DVDs in Linux?
[00:14] <WalloO> dotech_, it'S mainly does for e-mails, but the rss system is pretty good.
[00:14] <mdeias> was anybody able to install java on ubuntu 64bit_
[00:15] <WalloO> LetsGo67, mythtv, vlc, etc... but first install the decss decrypter
[00:15] <DoubleD> macd: so what might be a possible solution to my problem ?
[00:15] <fiartruck> /quit
[00:15] <mdeias> juannn
[00:15] <WalloO> !dvd | LetsGo67
[00:15] <macd> DoubleD, you need to determine ir your network is capable os using DHCP, or uses static IP addressing, and setup your computers network settigns to match.
[00:16] <LetsGo67> I did all of that already, libdvdread3, libdvdcss2, but it still won't play Garfield.
[00:17] <mdeias> was anybody able to install java plugin for firefox 64?
[00:17] <WalloO> LetsGo67, what player do you tried?
[00:17] <murlidhar> DoubleD, updating to the latest kernel should help . mine got rectified by updating to the latest kernel
[00:17] <murlidhar> :D
[00:17] <LetsGo67> Wallo0: vlc
[00:17] <Blaqlight> LetsGo67, perhaps its the DVD itself?
[00:17] <Oney> Hey guys my video card has s-video output hooked up to an EDTV that I use as a secondary monitor; is there a way to get Ubuntu to treat it as a secondary monitor? Right now it just shows the same thing that the 1st monitor shows.
[00:17] <spoonman> the disc could have DRM
[00:17] <LetsGo67> Blaqlight: copy-protected.
[00:17] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[00:18] <Peronthious> d'oh, this is XChat-gnome
[00:18] <Peronthious> that explains a few things
[00:18] <WalloO> Oney, what ios your video card?
[00:18] <Peronthious> heh
[00:18] <mdeias> was anybody able to install java plugin for firefox 64?
[00:18] <Oney> Errr, let me check WalloO
[00:18] <DoubleD> macd:
[00:18] <WalloO> Oney, is it nvidia or ati?
[00:18] <aSmig> so, anyone have any thoughts on where to find out why a package is no longer available or where to get libglade-perl?
[00:19] <DoubleD> macd: like i said before, that same network card is working fine if i use ubuntu 7.10. there is nothing wrong with my network card
[00:19] <kipisgettingemad> hello, everybody!
[00:19] <murlidhar> |Juan|, probably of lesser ram memory
[00:19] <|Juan|> murlidhar, what? i have 2gb ram
[00:19] <murlidhar> |Juan|, might b e someother problem then
[00:20] <Oney> WalloO, RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory Graphics
[00:20] <macd> DoubleD, I agree nothing is wrong with your card, I said your network, or the configuration of it. That card is 100% supported and dmesg indicates it is working 100%, it just doesnt have an IP assigned to it, YOU need to configure it as either DHCP or static IP, depending on your network configuration
[00:20] <kipisgettingemad> does anybody here knows how to make the digikam "create slideshow" work?
[00:20] <Blaqlight> |Juan|, I wish, this box has 128mb
[00:20] <|Juan|> i guess so, but i cant seem to get any tips
[00:20] <|Juan|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[00:20] <thesaint4444> hi guys, any suggestions how to get fluxbox working in hardy heron? thanks.
[00:20] <mdeias> was anybody able to install java plugin for firefox 64?
[00:20] <aSmig> DoubleD, what card?  I don't see any lspci output in your paste
[00:20] <WalloO> Oney, hmmm I don'T know to do for ATI. I'm sorry
[00:20] <Oney> =(
[00:20] <victamower> I'm trying to test ipv6
[00:20] <tdunlap> is there a way my computer can email me if I don't own a domain name?
[00:20] <WalloO> Oney, for nvidia, it's very easy...
[00:21] <Blaqlight> anyone know if I can use SSL to connect to this network?
[00:21] <victamower> how to do I give myself an address using ifconfig?  e.g. the equivalent of an <IP_ADDRESS>/16 address?
[00:21] <murlidhar> thesaint4444, mine works with no problem unless i use nautilus in fluxbox
[00:21] <DoubleD> macd: i tried the 3 availble options. Roaming mode, dhcp, and static ip.. all of which did not grand me any kind of connectivity
[00:21] <Starnestommy> Blaqlight: not currently.  freenode has plans to eventually support ssl
[00:21] <macd> DoubleD, is this wifi?
[00:22] <murlidhar> thesaint4444, installing thunar file manager can solve the prob lem
[00:22] <Blaqlight> :( I don't want the FBI reading my comments..
[00:22] <WalloO> DoubleD, sometime, you have to restart the network after a modification: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:22] <thesaint4444> murlidhar: hi, thanks, I just installed via apt-get fluxbox, I log out with ctrl, alt, backspace but dont get a flux box option... I am on hardy in gnome.
[00:23] <aSmig> DoubleD, check network link lights on the card and hub/switch
[00:23] <Blaqlight> thesaint4444, did you check the change session drop down?
[00:23] <DoubleD> asmig: the network link lights up
[00:23] <Oney> Can my TV-Tuner card work in Ubuntu or do I need a Media Center Edition Linux?
[00:23] <DoubleD> WalloO: i will try that command
[00:23] <WalloO> Blaqlight, luckily, everything here is logged on ubuntu servers
[00:24] <thesaint4444> Blaqlight: no.... - do I need to do that? thanks.
[00:24] <aSmig> macd, the realtek 8168b is a pci express gigabit card
[00:24] <aorthr33> dd: have you tried bring the intrerface down and then back up?
[00:24] <Blaqlight> Oney : you might want to c heck out MythTV
[00:24] <murlidhar> thesaint4444, log out normally instead of ctrl alt backspace and make sure u see the option in the change session tab
[00:24] <aorthr33> sudo ifdown ethX                sudo ifup ethX
[00:24] <Oney> Blaqlight, is that an app for linux?
[00:25] <Blaqlight> ubuntu
[00:25] <murlidhar> thesaint4444, just like gnome , fluxbox is run in session
[00:25] <aorthr33> blaq, if i'm not mistaken, mythtv is an open source dvr
[00:25] <thesaint4444> murlidhar: winner... thanks.
[00:26] <thesaint4444> Blaqlight: thanks...
[00:26] <murlidhar> Oney, my bet would be on  tvtime
[00:26] <Nasra> Blaqlight: I am in Canada but that is US one...no good for however is really good ...I am talking about Gnucash....
[00:26] <georgy28_> Oney : you can try Xawtv
[00:26] <Blaqlight> I may be wrong.
[00:26] <wildman> hello there
[00:27] <wildman> I have installed samba3 on a mandriva 2008.0 "Spring" system and it works fine. I take the same setup and put it into an Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) system and now I'm being asked for the user password once per session when I try to open a mapped drive on windows clients, any ideas?
[00:27] <Oney> Blaqlight, the one you suggested looks nice but I'm a linux n00b and already can't figure it out.
[00:27] <Oney> Downloaded in Firefox and said to open with package manager and it just opened a bunch of folders.
[00:27] <slacker__> guys, does anyone know why ubuntu with its GNOME so slow?
[00:28] <wildman> slacker__, define 'slow', it's hard to answer your question
[00:28] <murlidhar> Oney, after u install tvtime by typing sudo apt-get install tvtime    , type tvtime-scanner
[00:28] <macd> wildman, have a look@ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently#head-35cfd84dee9a392fa28c8795f37b6660a8786c35
[00:28] <slacker__> wildman, the screen is slow
[00:28] <hoban> a buddy of mine is getting terrible performance with a gigabit card that did quite well under Win 2003 server when he's running Ubuntu. I told him to check settings with ethtool, everything looks good. I told him to check for collisions with ifconfig, none seen. I told him to check to make sure the correct driver is being used, and it is. What else could I suggest to him?
[00:28] <Blaqlight> Oney, everyone has to learn sometime. but I believe the Mythtv is indeed a DVR
[00:28] <wildman> macd, will do, thanks.
[00:29] <macd> wildman, it talks of using a credentials file for storing user:pass, and then letting the entry in fstab know about the file.
[00:29] <thesaint4444> can anyone tell me how I set up my system so that is starts in a shell not gnome? thanks.
[00:29] <Oney> Blaqlight it looks REALLY nice.
[00:29] <wildman> macd, I wonder why I have to do that... the mdv system doesn't do that... I'll check...
[00:29] <Blaqlight> MythTV?
[00:29] <Oney> Yeah.
[00:29] <macd> wildman, the samaba packages most likely have different baseline configurations on both systems
[00:30] <hoban> thesaint4444: check /etc/inittab to see what the default run level is set to
[00:30] <Oney> But it opens with Archive Manager then opens a folder.
[00:30] <Oney> And idk what to do.
[00:30] <aSmig> Oney, you can use the graphical package manager, or open a terminal and sudo aptitude install mythtv
[00:30] <Blaqlight> Oney, in the toolbar at the top should be an extract button, hit it.
[00:30] <wildman> macd, but I've backed the smb.conf file up and then wrote both from scratch, in a similar (the same, bah) way
[00:30] <rootyrooty> Hi, I can't see one of my internal hard drives. Can someone help? sudo mount -a doesn't show it
[00:30] <wildman> macd, maybe there's some compilation option that's different on both systems...
[00:30] <Oney> And where do I extract it to Blaqlight?
[00:30] <aSmig> Oney, downloading and installing applications using firefox is much more risky and complicated
[00:30] <LetsGo67> Why can't DVD be open source like CD?
[00:31] <Blaqlight> Oney, wherever you want lol > say /home
[00:31] <Oney> Error
[00:31] <Oney> tar: /home/kevin/.fr-I1GM2u/mythtv-0.21.tar-1: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[00:31] <Oney> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:31] <aSmig> Blaqlight, maybe Oney should be encouraged to use the package rather than compiling...
[00:31] <wildman> slacker__, and the same system with a different OS is fast?
[00:32] <macd> wildman, if your getting the pass prompt from gnome, Im not sure if the new mandriva uses the gvfs as hardy does, so that extra layer of abstraction may be causing the differences your seeing
[00:32] <Oney> aSmig, can you help me then?
[00:32] <wildman> slacker__, does your system meet the minimum hardware requirements?
[00:32] <aSmig> Oney, you can use the graphical package manager, or open a terminal and sudo aptitude install mythtv
[00:32] <Blaqlight> aSmig, perhaps. I had missed the firefox thing
[00:32] <wildman> macd, I'm getting the pass prompt on windows machines, no Linux clients, only the Samba server
[00:32] <Oney> i did sudo aptitude in term
[00:32] <slacker__> wildman, 1.7 ghz cpu, 512 ram, geforce2 400 video card with 64mb ram on it
[00:32] <macd> wildman, ohhh, really odd
[00:32] <Blaqlight> Oney, aSmig is correct.
[00:33] <macd> wildman, I just assumed like everyone else who comes here, you were doing the opposite ;)
[00:33] <slacker__> wildman, my windows xp is very fast, and i tried slackware KDE, and it was fast too
[00:33] <W4z> is there a way to connect to wireless via command line?  I looked for a howto, but i couldnt find one
[00:33] <wildman> macd, I've mapped a drive letter to a Samba share, if I use the Mandriva server, I get no password prompt after a reboot, it just opens the share (expected behaviour). If I do the same map thing with the Ubuntu server, it does ask for pass after reboot when trying to open the share
[00:33] <Blaqlight> oney type > sudo aptitude install mythtv < into a terminal
[00:33] <murlidhar>  Blaqlight , don't u think freevo is better than mythtv
[00:34] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[00:34] <wildman> slacker__, did you try disabling 3D desktop effects?
[00:34] <spoonman> slacker__, ubuntu hardy by default has quite a few appearance bells and whistles enabled by default
[00:34] <macd> wildman, both mandriva and ubuntu both asked for a password once ?
[00:34] <Oney> BlakStone, ahead of u
[00:34] <thesaint4444> hoban: ok, got it, thanks....
[00:34] <Blaqlight> murlidhar, both have their individual merits.
[00:34] <slacker__> wildman, should that be it?
[00:34] <wildman> macd, yes, only when mapping the share, which is OK because it's set that way
[00:34] <Oney> Blaqlight, **
[00:34] <hoban> thesaint4444: np
[00:34] <Oney> Damn autocomplete. =P
[00:34] <wildman> slacker__, maybe... cuz with nvidia cards you need to enable the proprietary driver for good performance...
[00:35] <macd> wildman, yeah, its odd that it continues to ask, and I've only seen that when the guest level access isnt configured
[00:35] <wildman> macd, what do you mean with guest level access? this: map to guest = bad user ?
[00:35] <Blaqlight> frankly murlidhar I haven't used or heard of freevo.
[00:36] <wildman> slacker__, and I don't remember if 3D is enabled with non-proprietary driver for nvidia cards
[00:36] <LetsGo67> My copy protected DVDs aren't playing!
[00:36] <aSmig> Oney, a couple other handy commands when looking for cool software, `apt-cache search TV record play` and if something in the list is interesting but you want more info, apt-cache show mythtv
[00:36] <murlidhar> Blaqlight, http://freevo.sourceforge.net/index.php
[00:36] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[00:36] <Yowshi1> anyone know whats yup with hardy and the forcedeth network drivers?
[00:36] <slacker__> wildman, it wasnt enabled till i installed the nvidia drivers, but it was just as slow anyway
[00:36] <Blaqlight> murlidhar, gratzi
[00:36] <Oney> aSmig, I'm honestly feeling like once you get past the learning curve, Linux is easier than Windows. =P
[00:37] <wildman> slacker__, really strange...
[00:37] <murlidhar> Blaqlight, what's that ?
[00:37] <aSmig> Oney, I would agree with that.
[00:37] <spoonman> aSmig, that "show" function is really cool, thanks
[00:37] <Blaqlight> thanks
[00:37] <aSmig> but I'm weird, so....
[00:37] <aSmig> spoonman, happy to help :)
[00:38] <thesaint4444> guys how can I set the brightness of my laptop screen so its the same every time I reboot? at the moment I have to manually adjust it... thanks.
[00:38] <murlidhar> oh
[00:38] <wildman> macd, BTW, the mount windows shares permanently page is for Linux, now I understand that you thought I was trying to mount shares from Linux ;)
[00:39] <macd> wildman, I see a few config directives that might lead ubuntu to not behave as expected  "security = user" should be = share,  as well as uncommenting the line "guest account = nobody"
[00:39] <Blaqlight> aSmig, that show funtion is tons more handy than looking for that info on the internet
[00:39] <LetsGo67> elefante!
[00:39] <wildman> macd, I do have security = share
[00:39] <wildman> macd, I'll add the 'guest account = nobody' one, which I don't have
[00:39] <macd> wildman, also to your specific shares
[00:40] <wildman> macd, both? or the security = share one only?
[00:40] <vypadkovyy> can someone help me with fluxbox? I can't seem to get my wallpaper to be persistent. I think i'm doing something wrong in my .fluxbox/startup file
[00:40] <macd> wildman, public = yes /n guest ok = yes  /n guest only = yes  /n guest account = nobody  /n browsable = yes
[00:40] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[00:41] <macd> wildman, in both, then on the individual configured shares, you should have what I posted above
[00:41] <wildman> macd, public = no, actually... they are not public
[00:41] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, I use fluxbox... what command are you using?
[00:41] <macd> wildman, you can change that to suit your own needs
[00:41] <LetsGo67> Comida!
[00:41] <wildman> ok
[00:41] <wildman> LetsGo67, buen provecho, this is an EN-speaking channel...
[00:41] <LetsGo67> no puedo leer dvds
[00:41] <wildman> LetsGo67, and be careful with Elephants :)
[00:41] <LetsGo67> :)
[00:41] <kkathman> macd  could you recommend a samba settings page perhaps, I'm having difficulties also
[00:41] <yoyoned> vypadkovyy: I don't know, but if you can't get any help here, try #fluxbox channel
[00:42] <macd> wildman, then obviously youd want to chown nobody to your shared dir/path
[00:42] <wildman> LetsGo67, podés unirte a #ubuntu-es para hacer preguntas en castellano
[00:42] <macd> kkathman, I use the man pages
[00:42] <wildman> macd, will try one by one, thx
[00:42] <LetsGo67> y tu wildman
[00:42] <jeek> How hard is it to set up to install from an SD card?
[00:42] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, i use the command fbsetbg to set it, and that works beautifully. When i uncommented it in my .fluxbox/startup file and set it to the correct file, the wallpaper will flash once, and then reset back to the style's default
[00:42] <jeek> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu on my laptop, and I don't have any blank CDs.
[00:42] <kkathman> macd ahh ok...I have access to be able to copy files from a winbox to linux, but not the other way around
[00:42] <arthur> question how do i or can i convert jpg pictures to avi or mpeg....
[00:43] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, is there a fbsetroot command below your fbsetbg?
[00:43] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[00:43] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, yes, but it's commented
[00:43] <W8TAH> if i wanted to install a different window manager without dumping gnome and be able to go back to it
[00:43] <spoonman> jeek, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:43] <Blaqlight> freevo looks awesome. it almost makes me want to by a tv tuner for my desktop
[00:44] <genii> W8TAH: Unless you specifically remove a windwo manager they will all be available to you by way of the login manager to choose
[00:44] <W8TAH> ok
[00:44] <remu> hey everyone, I need some help with a C program I have to write for homework, I'm not asking someone to write it for me, I just need help debugging it, and I'm completely lost, lol.
[00:44] <rootyrooty> Hi, what is the BASH command to list all my hard drives w/ their sizes and permissioins?
[00:44] <jeek> spoonman: Thank you. I'll take a look at that site.
[00:45] <spoonman> np
[00:45] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, I know the command isn't bad, because I've copy/pasted it into a terminal.
[00:45] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, hmm, sounds like you are on the right track.. there must be something else getting started later that is reseting the background color
[00:45] <arthur> question how do i or can i convert jpg pictures to avi or mpeg....
[00:45] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, the only things that are started later are conky and fluxbox
[00:45] <vypadkovyy> I've tried moving the command to after fluxbox, and it still happens
[00:45] <Scunizi> arthur: a static jpg?
[00:46] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, in fact... i actually did it twice. once before and once after. same result
[00:46] <arthur> like the kind u take with a camera... i aint sure what u mean by static
[00:46] <oldbluebox> Hello.
[00:46] <oldbluebox> Can someone help me with a problem i'm having with ubuntu?
[00:47] <vypadkovyy> oldbluebox, just ask :)
[00:47] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, anything that comes after the line starting with exec (probably exec /usr/bin/fluxbox) gets ignored because the shell is giving process control over to a different application (fluxbox)
[00:47] <oldbluebox> ok cool.
[00:47] <oldbluebox> Well I just installed it, and everything worked fine, I installed all the updates.
[00:47] <oldbluebox> I went to change the display settings from basic to moderate (the second option)
[00:47] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, I figured that, but then why doesn't it work if I have it before the command?
[00:47] <thesaint4444> rootyrooty: 'fdisk -l'
[00:48] <oldbluebox> it prompted me to reboot, and when I did, it loads up fine, but the screen is blank.
[00:48] <Scunizi> arthur: well that would be static if it's not a motion picture.. install imagemagick (in synaptic)... then to convert go to the terminal and type "convert inputfilename.jpg outputfilename.type".. although I don't think you can convert a jpg to avi or mgeg.. those are video extentions..
[00:48] <Da1> is it possible to setup an ubuntu box as a switch? i know with routed you can set it up with nat and whatnot, but i don't need nor want nat, would routed still be the way to go?
[00:48] <vl_> Hi, can somebody, please, tell me why my files in the /bin folder have -rwxr-xr-x+ permissions?
[00:48] <rootyrooty> thesaint4444 Thanks!
[00:48] <oldbluebox> So I just don't know how to make the screen appear, or to just revert it back to it's original settings.
[00:49] <wildman> arthur, maybe what you need is a video editing program that allows you to do a photo 'show'
[00:49] <thesaint4444> rootyrooty: np..
[00:49] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, the commands in order are: fbsetbg -f ~/Pictures/linux-wallpaper_167.jpg , conky & , exec /usr/bin/fluxbox
[00:49] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, even after fluxbox starts, more stuff gets run, and something is setting your background color.  You might try and work around it by making a script that will set your background image after a 5 second delay or something
[00:49] <malkav> dal so you want to waste an entire pc on something you can buy at the store for 10 bucks?
[00:49] <genii> vl_: Because you don't want ppl to arbitrarily be able to write to system binaries in the system binary directory (/bin)
[00:49] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, that might work :) you think i might be able to put fbsetbg --pause 5 in it?
[00:50] <Scunizi> wildman: I'd sure like to know what's available in that venue for linux.. I"ve been looking and haven't found anything that will combine jpg or png or giv and avi,mpg etc.
[00:50] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[00:50] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, I don't see a --pause flag in the man page for fbsetbg
[00:50] <wildman> Scunizi, Kino, Cinelerra...
[00:50] <malkav> dal: it's my opinion that using a pc as a switch is a terrible idea
[00:50] <wildman> Scunizi, I'm sure there are others, didn't use any myself yet though
[00:50] <malkav> just buy a switch, good lord
[00:50] <wildman> Scunizi, I prefer photos ;)
[00:51] <Scunizi> wildman: cinelerra is a little much.. didn't now kino would combine jpg and video stuff into one file..
[00:51] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, o right. i was getting that confused with the screenshot command... :P
[00:51] <plik> malkav: unless you want to snarf...
[00:51] <aSmig> try changing your fbsetbg command line to ( sleep 5; fbsetbg -f ~/Pictures/linux-wallpaper_167.jpg )&
[00:51] <wormz> hey
[00:51] <wildman> Scunizi, I don't know if it can, I just threw you some pointers
[00:51] <vypadkovyy> ok
[00:52] <genuser> hello people.
[00:52] <georgy28> Scunizi, : you can use digikam to do that
[00:52] <wormz> Does anyone know a way I can boot from a linux live CD iso without burning it to CD?
[00:52] <genii> vl_: I do not accept private messages. If you want to ask me questions please do this here in the public channel.
[00:52] <keevie> I have a windows pc behind a router. This pc has two Ethernet ports, and i was wondering if it would be possible to share its internet and files with an ubuntu box that I have, via that empty Ethernet jack.  Can anyone help me out?
[00:52] <vl_>  but why these "+" in the end? and why /sbin don't have them?
[00:52] <kwaq1987> hi all
[00:52] <plik> wormz: use mount with the loop option
[00:52] <Scunizi> wildman: like i said before.. I've been looking.. seen all those and many more.. still haven't found one .. but thanks.
[00:52] <vl_> genii:  but why these "+" in the end? and why /sbin don't have them?
[00:52] <wildman> Scunizi, oups, sorry, ok.
[00:52] <tj83> !realtek
[00:52] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, trying it now, thx :)
[00:52] <Scunizi> georgy28: digicam? ok.. that's one that I haven't tried..thanks!
[00:52] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, cool, good luck
[00:52] <plik> keevie: check out firestarter
[00:52] <tj83> sorry i needed the URL
[00:53] <wildman> keevie, can't you just put the Ubuntu PC behind that router too?
[00:53] <keevie> fraid not
[00:53] <georgy28> Scunizi, , : digikam
[00:53] <keevie> its in a different room, there is only one ethernet cord to the place i have the two pcs
[00:53] <wormz> plik: Yeah I can mount (with mount -t iso9660 -o loop ...) though I want to actually boot it, I'm not sure about that
[00:54] <keevie> looking up firestarter, thanks
[00:54] <cashmoney> exit
[00:54] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, that was somewhat of a success
[00:54] <aSmig> I wish firestarter would support 64bit
[00:54] <Flannel> |Juan|: Have you filed a bug?
[00:54] <Colin1> YO! Got a question for you guys.  How would I run two songs at once?  If I were to like.. watch a youtube video, and play a song, it freezes the second one.
[00:54] <jorge__> hola
[00:54] <plik> wormz: oh yeah, booting might be a prob....maybe stick it on a usb stick if poss?
[00:54] <jorge__> panama
[00:54] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, good news: the wallpaper changes on logout/login :) bad news, it i just restart fluxbox, the wallpaper changes back to style default
[00:54] <jorge__> gano el salvador
[00:54] <plik> use the isotostick.sh (google for it0
[00:54] <wildman> jorge__, hola, #ubuntu-es para español...
[00:55] <jorge__> q decis??
[00:55] <|Juan|> Flannel, how should i go about that? i made a forum thread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[00:55] <keevie> hmm
[00:55] <jorge__> estas loco papa
[00:55] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, hmm, then the background color must be getting set by fluxbox itself...
[00:55] <keevie> can you run firestarter on windows?
[00:55] <wildman> !
[00:55] <jorge__> chupame el pico
[00:55] <keevie> hmmm
[00:56] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, i think so. I believe that when fluxbox is called to start and it's style manager decorates the windows, it also applys any background changes as well
[00:56] <plik> keevie: oh,sorry no I didn't read the q properl, but windows built in internet connection sharing should do what you want
[00:56] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, do you know how i can remove a wallpaper call from a style? because i know not every one has a different wallpaper
[00:56] <Ta3v> hey is there a way to copy all mp3 files begining with the letter c ?
[00:56] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, seems like something that would be in .fluxbox/init maybe
[00:56] <vypadkovyy> Ta3v, c*.mp3?
[00:56] <Ta3v> cp c* | *.mp3 ?
[00:56] <wildman> Ta3v, cp c*mp3 destionation/
[00:56] <Ta3v> ah
[00:56] <Ta3v> ty
[00:56] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, duno about that... I haven't really messed with styles
[00:56] <wildman> Ta3v, destination/ I mean
[00:56] <wildman> Ta3v, yw
[00:57] <keevie> plik: can the windows thing handle the two seperate ethernet jacks, and basically two networks?
[00:57] <Scunizi> georgy28: looks like digikam will create a mpeg output of pictures.. as in slide show.. but I don't see anything that mentions being able to incorporate any video footage in the mix.. :(
[00:57] <genii> vl_: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard for a more complete picture of what dirs are for what. Briefly the binaries there need to be executable in single user mode for all users.
[00:57] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, thank you for your help :)
[00:57] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, sure thing.. good luck with the rest
[00:57] <blah569> Why is it, that sometimes when I boot into Ubuntu, I receieve a prompt "(initramfs)?"    The only way to fix it is if I "hard boot" down this laptop, boot into my Windows partition, and then boot into Ubuntu.
[00:57] <plik> keevie: it connects to internet on one port, and the other basically NATs to whatever else you plug in
[00:58] <keevie> hmm
[00:58] <georgy28> Scunizi,y : oh, sorry, you can use kdenlive
[00:58] <keevie> will look into it, many thinks
[00:58] <keevie> tahnks*
[00:58] <plik> keevie: so yes, but you may need to set ip address and network detail manually
[00:58] <keevie> ahh
[00:58] <keevie> on the ubuntu
[00:58] <keevie> ?
[00:58] <genuser> anybody up for a little X debugging? Using Ubuntu Studio. X failed.
[00:58] <plik> keevie: yes man ifconfig,,,,
[00:58] <keevie> right
[00:59] <plik> keevie: google knows lots of guides to help
[00:59] <genuser> how to paste the error online?
[00:59] <troxor> genuser: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:59] <keevie> google will be queried
[00:59] <spoonman> keevie, "man ifconfig" is a Terminal command
[00:59] <yoyoned> genuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:59] <Scunizi> georgy28: that might work.. last time I tried it, it kept crashing on me...  still a pretty new project.. I'll give it another shot.
[00:59] <genuser> troxor: cool. thanks. Installing now.
[00:59] <keevie> i know
[00:59] <genuser> yoyoned: thanks. :)
[01:00] <keevie> spoonman: not that clueless
[01:00] <keevie> :D
[01:00] <OneyFesti> So Blaqlight I installed this thing but it's not really working.
[01:00] <genuser> http://pastebin.comf3de38803
[01:01] <genuser> ^ error starting X
[01:01] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, sweet. I went into the theme's config file in /usr/share/fluxbox/styles folder and commented out the lines regarding the background. it works now. thanks for all your help! :)
[01:02] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, no prob.. I bet you can get rid of the sleep stuff now in startup
[01:02] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, probably
[01:02] <yoyoned> genuser: bad linl
[01:02] <yoyoned> link
[01:03] <bonbonthejon> starting a few days ago, I started receiving ATA errors. Has this happened for anyone else?
[01:03] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, it's good to know that a pause command like that actually exists tho :) will come in handy
[01:03] <genuser> yoyoned: sorry let me re paste.
[01:04] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, yeah it is useful... the extra ()& stuff was to get the rest of the things in the file going without waiting for the sleep to finish
[01:04] <wildman> macd, didn't try all your tips, still not working... too tired for today, will continue tomorrow, thanks for your help!
[01:04] <yoyoned> ls
[01:04] <aSmig> .
[01:05] <genuser> yoyoned: http://pastebin.com/f4fc3842
[01:05] <vypadkovyy> aSmig, i figured so much. at first I wondered why it would let the others go ahead while one was still finishing, but then i saw the &
[01:05] <cyphase> more application icons need to be SVG
[01:05] <Scunizi> cyphase: like most every icon in kde4.xx
[01:06] <aSmig> vypadkovyy, yep.  it is a bash trick.  the () creates a sub-shell then that gets backgrounded
[01:06] <vypadkovyy> cyphase, vectormagic.com can change your raster images into vector ones if you like
[01:06] <cyphase> the compiz Alt-tab switcher stretches them, and they don't look very good
[01:06] <cyphase> vypadkovyy: it's not that important :). i don't want to have to convert all the app icons
[01:06] <Scunizi> cyphase: so can inkscape
[01:06] <wildman> good nite
[01:06] <yoyoned> genuser: can you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:07] <vypadkovyy> cyphase, alright :)
[01:07] <derenrich> So I uninstalled avant but now I no longer have the program switching bar, how do I get that back?
[01:07] <genii> !pastebin | genuser
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> derenrich: program switching bar?
[01:09] <genuser> yoyoned: ok after starting gdm manually and kill it a few times, one of these seems to start up. KDE is in the process of starting....
[01:09] <genii> genuser: Apologies, I see earlier now you know of pastebin. The user told you to paste (not to pastebin) so wanted to pre-epmt a flood.
[01:09] <genii> *pre-empt
[01:09] <derenrich> IndyGunFreak: yeah, as in the bar at the bottom of the screen which lists open programs and lets me switch between them
[01:09] <genuser> genii: no worries. :)
[01:09] <Colin1> Eek.. I was talking to people on msn
[01:09] <c0mrade> hi
[01:09] <Colin1> Wonder if anyone answered me.
[01:09] <genuser> yoyoned: will paste the file anyway once this thing starts. :) running it in qemu with kqemu but this is very slow.
[01:09] <c0mrade> I'd like to adduser and password all in same line? any hints?
[01:10] <Colin1> How do I run two songs at the same time? Like one from youtube and one from uh..
[01:10] <Colin1> Like.. a media player.
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> derenrich: oh, ok.. well, you can do one of two things.. if you like having two panels, right click your top panel, click new panel, then on the new panel, right click/add to panel, and add window list
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> derenrich: if you like having everything on one panel, just right click your panel and add "window selector" which puts all open windows, on a button, you hit the button, and choose the window you want
[01:11] <derenrich> IndyGunFreak: ah that's better, but now it's all right centered...
[01:11] <YoLeisure> Colin1 I can do this and i installed flash only
[01:11] <genuser> Colin1: if you use alsa it should share hw with different apps. You should be able to play different sounds
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> derenrich: its probably where you drug the icon to... if you remove it, then drag it all the way to the left, it'll probably be where you want it.
[01:12] <Scunizi> Colin1: try "killall pulseaudio" and see if that makes both streams function at the same time.
[01:12] <derenrich> IndyGunFreak: yeah I've got it now
[01:12] <derenrich> thanks
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> derenrich: np
[01:13]  * LetsGo67 puts his hands up
[01:13] <Kidfork> How do i install a Beryl Emerald Theme?
[01:13] <narothepharoh> I cannot play a cd when i put it in it says error device not found
[01:13] <LetsGo67> Kidfork: with synaptics
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> Kidfork: beryl doesn't exist anymore, its compiz-fusion
[01:14] <Scunizi> Kidfork: I don't know about anyone else.. but I had nothing but issues with emerald.
[01:14] <vypadkovyy> emerald still exists tho
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> vypadkovyy: yes it does, but its got nothing to do w/ beryl, never did actually
[01:14] <genuser> I use compiz. You should be ok with restarting X now and then....
[01:14] <vypadkovyy> to install a theme in emerald, download the tarball to a location, then open the emerald theme manager and select import, then choose the theme you want
[01:14] <genuser> otherwise you'll be upset.
[01:14] <LetsGo67> narothepharoh: turn off your computer open your computer plug inn all cables power and alsa/scsi/dee/we and turn it on onplug it or else it will shock you
[01:14] <Blaqlight> < is busy looking at emerald themes now.
[01:14] <vypadkovyy> IndyGunFreak, i never disputed that :) emerald is just a window decorator
[01:15] <vypadkovyy> IndyGunFreak, you could easily decorate beryl or compiz with metacity or kwin or anything else :)
[01:15] <narothepharoh> LetsGo67: everything is plugged in I can burn cds and dvds fine just not play them?
[01:16] <LetsGo67> narothepharoh: sound-juicer?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> vypadkovyy: yeah... i don't do eyecandy...  i find it more of a detriment
[01:16] <goobsoft> Is anyone in here a NickServ admin?  I lost my password
[01:17] <Pici> goobsoft: Ask for a reset in #freenode
[01:17] <goobsoft> thanks
[01:17] <darkreaction> could someone help me with a network issue?
[01:17] <darkreaction> I downloaded Wicd and I cant connect to the internet I want to re install network manager but I need to download it. I am on a live cd right now is there any way to fix it from here?
[01:18] <genuser> yoyoned: it seems working. thanks. :)
[01:18] <genuser> yoyoned: if this doens't work, I'll ask again. :)
[01:18] <genuser> thakns.
[01:19] <bl00dniece> darkreaction:  hmm, you have an ethernet connection you can use to dl and config network manager?
[01:20] <darkreaction> I can only get access to the internet from wireless which now only works on my live cd
[01:20] <kelvin> hi, somebody can help me?
[01:21] <narothepharoh> LetsGo67: sound-juicer works after i installed it
[01:21] <amenado> darkreaction-> does your router have ethernet ports?
[01:22] <LetsGo67> narothepharoh: to play and rip?
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> amenado: lol, i'm guessing itsnot his router, but rather one in the neighborhood that isn't secured
[01:22] <amenado> IndyGunFreak-> am shooting from the hip, i dont know what he's got...
[01:22] <pyrourk> hola alguien habla español??
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> amenado: i know, he said wireless was his only option though..  so i was just adding 2 and 2.
[01:22] <amenado> !es | pyrourk
[01:22] <Pici> !es | pyrourk
[01:23] <darkreaction> ya but i really don't want to drag my comp downstairs and to the other side of the house.
[01:24] <darkreaction> If i could avoid that it would be nice
[01:24] <amenado> darkreaction-> go ahead boot up on your hd but you wont be able to chat..so which one would it be? log the box upstairs or ?
[01:24] <gardenhose> question: how do i uninstall java-gcj?
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> darkreaction: get a long ethernet cable...
[01:24] <LetsGo67> DVD UBUNTU LINUX XUBUNTU VLC PLEASE DVD PLEASE I BEG OF YOU PLEASE DVD!
[01:25] <gardenhose> or better yet how do i get eclipse to use sun's jre
[01:25] <OneyFesti> Who here uses Compiz?
[01:25] <aSmig> darkreaction, are you comfortable working from commandline?
[01:25] <bazhang> caps LetsGo67
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: whst your problem?
[01:25] <kelvin> hi, can somebody help me??
[01:25] <amenado> gardenhose->try to use update-alternatives to point to your sun jre
[01:25] <node357> !ask | kelvin
[01:25] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak: can't read DVDs.
[01:25] <genii> node357: Beat me to it :)
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: movies?
[01:25] <aSmig> kelvin, no, not when we don't know what to help you with.  we aren't mind readers here.
[01:25] <gardenhose> amenado: did that, didn't work though
[01:25] <LetsGo67> kelvin: perdon, I thought you were asking "Can I help?"
[01:25] <node357> genii, sorry!
[01:25] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak yes.
[01:26] <darkreaction> aSmig,ya im ok?
[01:26] <genii> node357: No worries
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu | LetsGo67 go here and follow the instructions to add libdvdcss2
[01:26] <amenado> gardenhose-> it dont work if you dont set it up right..btw, eclipse uses ibm or sun jdk by default noh?
[01:26] <kelvin> oh sorry, my english is not good
[01:26] <LetsGo67> Lo siento kelvin
[01:26] <aSmig> darkreaction, then you can mount your disk partitions and chroot.. then do whatever work you need to do to fix things
[01:27] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak I have this lib.
[01:27] <bazhang> !en | LetsGo67
[01:27] <OneyFesti> No one here uses Compiz?
[01:27] <gardenhose> amenado:it says it's using java-gcj, but then again i apt-geted eclipse
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: then you've not installed it properly
[01:27] <kelvin> well, I have installed the latest version of ubuntu and wifi don't work out the box, i tried some tutorial on Internet without luck...
[01:27] <gardenhose> so maybe it installed it by default
[01:27] <LetsGo67> kelvin: lspci
[01:27] <OneyFesti> I can't figure out which setting in Compiz to change but every time I hover my mouse over a different window, every other window including the one I'm in fades and the one the mouse is on shows...
[01:28] <amenado> gardenhose-> then reconfigure it via update alternatives to point to use new jdk  (jdk because you are developin i assume?)
[01:28] <darkreaction> aSmig, Ok im not that good any step by step instructions?
[01:28] <crdlb> OneyFesti: you enabled the 'Opacify' plugin
[01:28] <kesi> hi all.   I am trying to dual-boot vista/ubuntu.  I have a 200 GB partition that I made during vista setup to use for ubuntu.  I am at the part of the install where it wants me to manually create partitions for ubunutu.  For the swap what do I choose for primary/logical beginning/end and mount point?  same question for the ext3 ubuntu partition?
[01:28] <kelvin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22475/
[01:28] <OneyFesti> crdlb, thanks
[01:28] <gardenhose> amenado: that's thing thing, i've already tried it numerous ammount of times, but still nothing
[01:29] <gardenhose> and yeah i'm developing
[01:29] <aSmig> darkreaction, sure... first thing is to mount your disk. try fdisk -l to list the partitions you have
[01:29] <kelvin> LetsGo67: I think is this 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[01:29] <iandev> problems configuring ubuntu-server-8.04: anyone could help?
[01:29] <amenado> gardenhose-> perhaps you can  paste your update-alternatives command to make sun jdk the default.. paste in pastebin
[01:29] <LetsGo67> Kelvin: desktop or laptop?
[01:30] <kelvin> LetsGo67: laptop
[01:30] <gardenhose> amenado: it's only one line: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:30] <LetsGo67> kelvin: acer?
[01:30] <kelvin> LetsGo67: is Dell
[01:30] <kelvin> LetsGo67: I tried the tool called
[01:30] <kelvin> NDISwrapper
[01:30] <bazhang> kelvin, what does ifconfig show: two entries or three
[01:30] <LetsGo67> Kelvin: Dell Inspiron... qual es el nombre?
[01:30] <gardenhose> amenado: then it gives me an option to set the default jre and that's that
[01:31] <darkreaction> asmig, nothing comes up
[01:31] <bazhang> kelvin, no ndiswrapper needed for that card
[01:31] <amenado> gardenhose-> that does not install it to be selectable from the menu
[01:31] <kesi> anyone?
[01:31] <rootyrooty> Hi, can someone recommend a good howto for mounting a hard drive?
[01:31] <kelvin> LetsGo67: yes
[01:31] <kelvin> bazhang: now only two cards
[01:31] <aSmig> darkreaction, as root?
[01:31] <iCEifer> hello, I am running with 1gb of RAM but sometimes top says there is less than 15mb of mem left...is this pretty poor performance and does it mean I am paging a lot to the hard drive?
[01:31] <gardenhose> amenado: no wonder it's not working, i need the --install falg?
[01:31] <darkreaction> asmig,ok
[01:31] <kelvin> bazhang: wlan0 not is display, but before I went able...
[01:32] <LetsGo67> Kelvin: model number?
[01:32] <gardenhose> flag*
[01:32] <amenado> gardenhose-> yes...look for a tutorial on google...i cant remember the options
[01:32] <gardenhose> amenado: awesome thanks
[01:32] <kelvin> LetsGo67: 6400
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> rootyrooty sudo mkdir /media/techsupport && sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/techsupport          subsitiute sda7 with your drive
[01:32] <bazhang> LetsGo67, that does not matter
[01:32] <yoyoned> iCEifer: tepe the free comand in a terminal for more info on memory usage
[01:33] <ASULutzy> iCEifer: free -m makes it a bit more readable ;)
[01:33] <iandev> router di-604 configured to port forward external IP to <IP_ADDRESS>. apache running on port 80. typing in firefox <IP_ADDRESS> gives me 'it works apache page'. typing external IP gives me as well. but when checking through http://canyouseeme.org it says port 80 is closed. ehat is the matter?
[01:33] <darkreaction> asmig, ok /dev/sdb1 is my partition
[01:33] <kesi> hi all.   I am trying to dual-boot vista/ubuntu.  I have a 200 GB partition that I made during vista setup to use for ubuntu.  I am at the part of the install where it wants me to manually create partitions for ubunutu.  For the swap what do I choose for primary-logical beginning-end and mount point?  same question for the ext3 ubuntu partition?
[01:33] <iCEifer> okay, I'll give that a shot
[01:33] <aSmig> cool, then mount that just like Jack_Sparrow described above
[01:33] <bazhang> kelvin, pastebin output of ifconfig to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <aSmig> bazhang, you mean kesi
[01:34] <kelvin> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22477/
[01:34] <dan__> i wanna switch from pclinux to ubuntu but is it that much better and worth re doing my set up for
[01:34] <bazhang> aSmig, actually no but thanks :)
[01:34] <aSmig> err, I'm confused, don't mind me :)
[01:34] <yoyoned> kesi: using the free space, make 2 new partitions, a small one fow swap, and the rest for the root partition
[01:34] <darkreaction> this? whole thing? sudo mkdir /media/techsupport && sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/techsupport
[01:35] <iandev> someone out there oto help me out with the server problem?
[01:35] <kesi> yoyoned: I understand that, I need to know this:For the swap what do I choose for primary-logical beginning-end and mount point?  same question for the ext3 ubuntu partition?
[01:35] <aSmig> darkreaction, yeah, but change sda7 to sda1
[01:35] <LetsGo67> sDVD VPLEASe VDV
[01:35] <bazhang> kelvin, it was working before a recent kernel update? or has it ever worked.
[01:35] <darkreaction> k
[01:35] <HappyHater> dan__, use the livecd and see if you really want to switch
[01:35] <bazhang> LetsGo67, stop
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__ You will not get an unbias answer in here.  Just get a livecd and try it for yourself
[01:35] <genii> I think his keyboard is broken
[01:35] <kelvin> bazhang: ever worked, yesterday I was trying to put it work and the green light was flashing
[01:35] <bazhang> nah, he is testing some spam
[01:36] <dan__> yeh im downloading it rite now i just like the ubuntu community size more too
[01:36] <darkreaction> this is what I got sudo mkdir /media/techsupport && sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/techsupport
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__ How nice..  yea.. we are a fun bunch
[01:36] <darkreaction> sorry this mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/techsupport': File exists
[01:37] <bazhang> kelvin, so it just stopped working? or you switched to ethernet (ie what prompted it to stop working)
[01:37] <dan__> haha
[01:37] <iandev> thats a shame. no server pros tonight. back tomorrow....
[01:37] <bazhang> iandev, check the server channel
[01:37] <iandev> which one?
[01:37] <aSmig> darkreaction, looks like maybe you did it twice... the part before the && is a separate command that only needs to happen once
[01:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server
[01:37] <kelvin> bazhang: I just installed Ubuntu yesterday and it never worked, only flash when I was trying to get it work with the windows driver
[01:38] <amenado> dan__-> you can also install ubuntu  in a separate partition (5gig+) and use the same swap space you currently use..
[01:38] <iandev> thanks bazhang...
[01:38] <aSmig> darkreaction, ls /media/techsupport to make sure nothing is in there, and then do the mount /dev/sda1 /media/techsupport part again
[01:38] <kelvin> bazhang: I remember that when I installed ubuntu 6.04 it worked out the work...
[01:38] <bazhang> kelvin, you dont need the windows driver with that; you need to undo what you did first
[01:38] <kesi>  hi all.   I am trying to dual-boot vista/ubuntu.  I have a 200 GB partition that I made during vista setup to use for ubuntu.  I am at the part of the install where it wants me to manually create partitions for ubunutu.  For the swap what do I choose for primary-logical beginning-end and mount point?  same question for the ext3 ubuntu partition?
[01:38] <amenado> iandev-> what issues are you trying to resolve?
[01:39] <bazhang> kesi, any reason not to use the guided install?
[01:39] <dan__> yehh i mite do that but i swapped out my big hd to use it to install linux on my ps3 the other hd in this box is pretty small gotta upgrade
[01:39] <kelvin> bazhang: so I went to Windows Wireless Driver and deleted the driver...
[01:39] <aSmig> kesi, you got an answer from yoyoned
[01:39] <bazhang> kelvin, is this linuxmint?
[01:39] <Blaqlight> I can't seem to figure out why I can't get pictures to fully load in firefox 3
[01:39] <kesi> bazhang: it won't let me.   It says something about there not being enough 'free' space..... the rest of the partition is formatted ntfs
[01:39] <kesi> aSmig: it didn't answer my question.
[01:40] <phaedral> am thinking about triple booting my macbook pro; best to go 8.04?
[01:40] <kelvin> bazhang: What is linuxmint?
[01:40] <LetsGo67> Please!
[01:40] <kelvin> bazhang: I have to uncomment this: # replaced by b43 and ssb.
[01:40] <kelvin> #blacklist bcm43xx?
[01:40] <kesi> I have a 50 GB NTFS partition with Vista and then a 200 GB NTFS partition open
[01:40] <iandev> amenado:  router di-604 configured to port forward external IP to <IP_ADDRESS>. apache running on port 80. typing in firefox <IP_ADDRESS> gives me 'it works apache page'. typing external IP gives me as well. but when checking through http://canyouseeme.org it says port 80 is closed.what is the matter?
[01:40] <aSmig> kesi, sorry, I didn't see your request for clarification from yoyoned
[01:40] <bazhang> kelvin, where do you see 'Window Wireless Driver'<----in what menu
[01:40] <darkreaction> the first one gives me smkdir: cannot create directory `/media/techsupport': File exists
[01:40] <kelvin> bazhang: System-> Administration
[01:41] <aSmig> darkreaction, looks like maybe you did it twice... the part before the && is a separate command that only needs to happen once
[01:41] <Blaqlight> could there be a problem that I don't know about?
[01:41] <amenado> iandev-> what is your external ip address? so i can check
[01:41] <bazhang> kelvin, what version of ubuntu is this
[01:41] <georgy28> iandev, : I have the same router, and I had to upgrade the firmware to do it work like you want
[01:41] <darkreaction> ya thats the first part
[01:41] <aSmig> darkreaction, ls /media/techsupport to make sure nothing is in there, and then do the mount /dev/sda1 /media/techsupport part again
[01:41] <kelvin> bazhang: 8.04 32 bit
[01:41] <bazhang> kelvin, please pastebin sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <kelvin> bazhang: I tried this too: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=howto-iwlwifi, but it give me error in some part of the installation
[01:42] <OneyFesti> Anyone know where I can find this theme for Emerald? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=45402&file1=45402-1.png&file2=45402-2.jpg&file3=&name=Scaled+Black+Mod
[01:42] <iandev> georgy28: firmware update... hum...
[01:43] <bazhang> back in a second.
[01:43] <iandev> amenado: got ip?
[01:43] <georgy28> iandev, : that was the only issue ;)
[01:43] <LetsGo67> DVD
[01:43] <iandev> georgy: ill check that...
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: are you sure you installed libdvdcss2 correctly?
[01:43] <amenado> iandev-> i did a quick check...you port 80 is not showing up.. assuming your ip addy is same as what you are chatting with now
[01:43] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak how do I check?
[01:44] <Christoph_82> Anyone know some good desktop addons? Little widget like stuff?
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: how did you install it?
[01:44] <bazhang> Christoph_82, with compiz screenlets
[01:44] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak ran a script.
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: a script?
[01:44] <bazhang> LetsGo67, what script
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> why would you run a script to install libdvdcss2?
[01:44] <kelvin> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22478/
[01:45] <bazhang> Christoph_82, without compiz gdesklets
[01:45] <iandev> amenado: i guess so...201.74
[01:45] <genii> LetsGo67: 1 command <> a script
[01:45] <iandev> georgy: what was your firmware version?
[01:45] <amenado> iandev-> confirm your ip is  <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[01:45] <onthefence928> would it be off-topic for me to ask a thunderbird (linux version) question in here?
[01:45] <iandev> amenado: yes
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: well i don't know what you did, but do what i told you earlier, and yuou should get dvd support just fine
[01:46] <amenado> iandev-> i did a quick check...you port 80 is not showing up....so its blocked by you or by your ISP
[01:46] <georgy28> iandev  a moment please
[01:47] <darkreaction> ok i think i got the lines to work
[01:48] <iandev> amenado: in server /etc/hosts file waht should i have? have only <IP_ADDRESS>. Is it correct?
[01:48] <georgy28> iandev, V2.05
[01:48] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak: even my sister can't read dvd with vlc
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: then she hasn't installed DVD support right either..
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know what more i can tell you, i've told you what to do, and you keep asking the same question
[01:48] <iandev> georgy: mine is V3.20
[01:48] <bazhang> LetsGo67, you got the solution, please follow it.
[01:48] <stiv2k> Hello where can I get a default /etc/passwd file?  Mine got screwed up.
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: if two people do the wrong thing, then its not gonna work for either of them.
[01:49] <SkinnYPup> Anyone familiar with stella? Does the sound work ?
[01:49] <amenado> iandev-> you use /etc/hosts to resolve an outside address..as a minimum yes you need <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:49] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak: libdvdread: Can't allocate memory for file read!
[01:49] <yoyone1> stiv2k: there isn't one
[01:49] <stiv2k> yoyone1: what do I do now?
[01:49] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak: 3GB RAM
[01:49] <yoyone1> what's wrong
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: unless you're gonna listen, don't bother me anymore... i've told you what to do, yet you keep telling me your errors, your error is pounding on your keyboard
[01:49] <bazhang> kelvin, in your systems administration there is an entry called windows wireless drivers? or is this inside another item
[01:49] <stiv2k> yoyone1: my /etc/passwd file got erased when I tried to add a new user via the GNOME users and groups setting.
[01:50] <iandev> amendo: shouldnt i have something like <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:50] <georgy28> iandev : so it have to work then ;)
[01:50] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak: can you repeat please?
[01:50] <SkinnYPup> jeez
[01:50] <lolcatz> how do you mount ext3 as read and write in hardy ( need example line of codes for /etc/fstab ) thank you very much
[01:50] <kelvin> bazhang: you are right
[01:50] <iandev> georgy28: it seems so... ;)
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu | LetsGo67 go here, and follow the instructions to add the medibuntu repo, then install libdvdcss2, following the instructions
[01:50] <yoyone1> stiv2k: try opening terminal and typing passwd
[01:50] <amenado> iandev-> that could be an additional entry...as i have said minimum is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:50] <darkreaction> aSmig, I got it mounted
[01:50] <bazhang> LetsGo67, install libdvdcss2 from medibuntu, then the dvd will play; stop repeating the same question
[01:50] <shift_> So far, I've gotta say... Really NOT impressed by Hardy Heron. No xmms. Expert installer doesn't allow package selection. sources.list is empty by default after a barebones install. And there's no BitchX!
[01:51] <aSmig> darkreaction, cool, do an ls /media/techsupport to make sure you have the etc, root, home and all that good stuff
[01:51] <bazhang> kelvin, it is inside another item, or there is an item by that name (A or B<---two choices here)
[01:51] <amenado> shift_-> barebones install? which method you used to do the install?
[01:51] <stiv2k> yoyone1: I can still log in but I cant start X or use sudo or do anything
[01:51] <onthefence928> am i the only one that finds it ironic when a linux user complains about not getting everything spoon-fed?
[01:52] <QUILz> shift_: The current version of BitchX has security problems. I'm not surprised it was taken out
[01:52] <yoyone1> stiv2k: how do you log in
[01:52] <shift_> amenado: Boot off AMD64CD, F6, Expert Install, go through install process normally, but skip "select and install packages"
[01:52] <kelvin> bazhang: B
[01:52] <lolcatz> how do you mount ext3 as read and write in hardy ( need example line of codes for /etc/fstab ) thank you very much
[01:52] <darkreaction> aSmig, ya all good
[01:52] <SkinnYPup> fence, no it is ironic
[01:52] <stiv2k> yoyone1: im forced to use the console right now
[01:52] <aSmig> darkreaction, good, now chroot /media/techsupport
[01:52] <shift_> QUILz: I'd not heard of this. Got a link?
[01:52] <stiv2k> yoyone1: the root password got erased
[01:52] <iandev> amenado: ill try to change port to 8080
[01:52] <stiv2k> yoyone1: or something
[01:52] <georgy28> fence : you are not the only one :)
[01:53] <bazhang> kelvin, then it must be ubuntu ultimate or linux mint or other 'ubuntu-based' distro; my own gnome has no such entry.
[01:53] <amenado> shift_-> Expert install meant you know what you are doing , you dont need a selection menu to select from eh?
[01:53] <derenrich> so x won't start on me and dpkg-reconfigure opens a ui that i can't control, tips?
[01:53] <darkreaction> aSmig, OK
[01:53] <kelvin> bazhang: so this is not the original?
[01:53] <yoyone1> stiv2k: do you know how to use a recovery cd likesystem rescue cd
[01:53] <LetsGo67> IndyGunFreak: I did all of that and it crashes.
[01:53] <QUILz> shift_: http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2007-3360  and  http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2007-4584
[01:53] <stiv2k> yoyone1: so I have to reinstall?
[01:53] <stiv2k> yoyone1: this is bullshit
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: thank you.
[01:54] <kelvin> bazhang: I downloaded it from the official webpage
[01:54] <aSmig> darkreaction, that's it.. you are now in your regular system.. you will notice that /proc is empty but otherwise things should work as expected
[01:54] <shift_> amenado: The installer is boked - There's no method of selecting packages at all. If you select that option, it just starts installing random crap.
[01:54] <bazhang> stiv2k, no cursing please
[01:54] <shift_> QUILz: Thanks!
[01:54] <aSmig> darkreaction, and if you need anything from proc, you can mount /proc
[01:54] <yoyone1> stiv2k: no, boot a live cd,chroot into system, and type passwd in terminal to redo root password
[01:54] <amenado> shift_ if you want the very basic without even the kernel, use debootstrap install technique
[01:54] <stiv2k> yoyone1: but i lost _all_ the other passwd entries
[01:55] <stiv2k> yoyone1: the default system ones
[01:55] <aSmig> darkreaction, when you are done, umount /proc; exit and don't forget to umount /media/techsupport before restarting
[01:55] <shift_> amenado: What I was looking for was linux+bash+apt+associated things needed to boot.
[01:55] <UserNobody> how do you mount ext3 as read and write in hardy ( need example line of codes for /etc/fstab ) thank you very much
[01:55] <yoyone1> once you get a root password, you can use the root acount to enter the passwords for the other users stiv2k
[01:56] <m_newton> What do i enter to find out info on my hardware
[01:56] <stiv2k> yoyone1: they arent real users, just users like `gdm` and stuff
[01:56] <bazhang> !password
[01:56] <stiv2k> bazhang: i cant use sudo
[01:56] <amenado> shift_-> i believe debootstrap will provide that for you.. offcourse you need linux as minimum and just apt-get install pkgname as needed
[01:56] <bazhang> stiv2k, use livecd to reset
[01:56] <aSmig> UserNobody, take a look a/usr/share/doc/mount/examples/fstabt
[01:57] <Colin1> Any idea how to run 2 songs at once?
[01:57] <stiv2k> bazhang: ok
[01:57] <shift_> amenado: I'll have to look into it, then. Never ran debootstrap before.
[01:57] <m_newton> This is in terminal. What do i enter to get the hardware detail
[01:57] <LetsGo67> !dvd
[01:57] <shift_> amenado: Don't suppose you know why every distro and their mother is getting rid of XMMS?
[01:57] <Colin1> Like watch a youtube vid and listen to an MP3?
[01:57] <LetsGo67> !ops indygunfreak
[01:57] <Colin1> Anyone?
[01:57] <LetsGo67> !ops > indygunfreak
[01:57] <fabz0r> Colin1: using what app?
[01:57] <aSmig> UserNobody, sorry, my "at" got split by the paste.. /usr/share/doc/mount/examples/fstab
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> LetsGo67: what is your malfunction?... i didn't kick you
[01:57] <fabz0r> and using the old xmms there was allow multiple instances
[01:57] <Colin1> Any app.  I can run a song, but then whatever i run that also uses sound second freezes
[01:58] <amenado> shift_-> i have not idea...however if you had said, sound issues with hardy, i can vouch for that
[01:58] <UserNobody> aSmig : thankx :D
[01:58] <fabz0r> then what sound driver are u using?
[01:58] <Commie_Jebus> Stop the banozrding
[01:58] <m_newton> This is in terminal. What do i enter to get the hardware detail??
[01:58] <Colin1> Any idea how I can check?
[01:58] <fabz0r> try playing with oss or pulseaudio
[01:58] <aSmig> UserNobody, no problem
[01:58] <genii> bazhang: Geez, that guy still acting up??
[01:58] <amenado> m_newtwon sudo  lspci, sudo lshw
[01:58] <fabz0r> well it depends on the the program, different apps choose different sound servers
[01:58] <yoyone1> stiv2k: I don't think every etc/passwd file is the same
[01:58] <bazhang> genii, sadly yes
[01:59] <fabz0r> and you may well always be running a few
[01:59] <agliodbs> how do I search for a package name?
[01:59] <Colin1> Ok, well I just set all the boxes to OSS
[01:59] <fabz0r> theres alsa, oss and now pulseaudio
[01:59] <Colin1> Gonna try running two now.
[01:59] <agliodbs> and check dependancies
[01:59] <fabz0r> so yeah try oss, see if that freezes
[01:59] <pdelgado> hello all... is there a version of ubuntu for a G4 processor? (the kind in an apple iBook)
[02:00] <amenado> agliodbs-> try  sudo  apt-cache search package name  or dpkg -l
[02:00] <kelvin> bazhang: any idea?
[02:00] <shift_> So... Anyone know of a widget system (desklets/widgets/dashboard apps/whatever) that runs in Linux and does NOT require KDE or Gnome?
[02:00] <agliodbs> dpkg, that's what I was looking for
[02:00] <fabz0r> agliodbs: fire p the synaptic package manager
[02:00] <fabz0r> or that :P
[02:00] <agliodbs> anyone ever install kolab on Ubuntu?
[02:00] <bazhang> kelvin, hang on a sec; a bit of clean up to do :)
[02:01] <kelvin> bazhang: oka...
[02:01] <agliodbs> hmmm
[02:01] <agliodbs> looks like it's not available as a package
[02:01] <fabz0r> Adlai_:  check caps
[02:02] <Colin1> Didnt freeze, but didn't play either.
[02:02] <Adlai_> fabz0r: what?
[02:02] <yoyone1> stiv2k: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-210213.html
[02:02] <fabz0r> chec k capitalistaion when searching through packages
[02:02] <Adlai_> I still don't know what you're talking about, I haven't said anything in this channel for weeks probably
[02:03] <genii> !info kolabd | agliodbs
[02:03] <fabz0r> hmm
[02:03] <Colin1> fabz0r: Still won't play, but won't freeze.
[02:03] <fabz0r> umm
[02:03] <bazhang> kelvin, do you have the livecd?
[02:03] <fabz0r> so have you looked at terminatorX?
[02:04] <fabz0r> its for "dj mixing"
[02:04] <agliodbs> genii: hmmm.  I get no hits on a dpkg -l '*kolab*'
[02:04] <kelvin> bazhang: I guess
[02:04] <Colin1> Not sure what that is.
[02:04] <bazhang> kelvin, if so, could you boot up into it and see what ifconfig shows (ie three entries or two)
[02:04] <Colin1> Maybe its something I should consider downloading?
[02:04] <SkinnYPup> Any Stella users ? Sound work?
[02:04] <fabz0r> terminatorX is a realtime audio synthesizer that allows you to
[02:04] <fabz0r> "scratch" on digitally sampled audio data (*.wav, *.au, *.mp3, etc.)
[02:04] <kelvin> bazhang: so I have to restart?
[02:05] <aSmig> Adlai_, fabz0r is probably talking to agliodbs and hit the wrong nick completion
[02:05] <thegothguy> hello room
[02:05] <fabz0r> oh that sorry about the confusion
[02:05] <genii> agliodbs: What can I say? Both the bot and my apt-cache search results indicate otherwise.
[02:05] <fabz0r> im used to talking to less than an thousand people at once
[02:05] <grumpy> Anybody know why php on latest ubuntu is not supporting Console/CommandLine.php?
[02:05] <Colin1> I'll search up terminator
[02:05] <bazhang> kelvin, you wish to fix this? then we need to eliminate all error sources. Up to you really.
[02:05] <genii> agliodbs: Perhaps check universe repository is enabled.
[02:05] <Colin1> Is it in that synopw/e package manager?
[02:05] <Adlai_> fabz0r, aSmig: ok, sounds good
[02:06] <litlebuda> hi all how do I install fluxbox from a comand line install on a pc whitout network interfaces ?
[02:06] <sileni> hey guys, im running hardy heron on a compar presario f557us. i have sound working and im watching anime but after sometime when i go to a different page sound doesnt work for the whole laptop. It will only come back if i restart computer
[02:06] <agliodbs> genii: yeah, I'm just unfamiliar with the tools
[02:06] <sileni> anyone know the fix to this issue?
[02:06] <kelvin> bazhang: yes no problem, then copy that info and come back?
[02:06] <thegothguy> im having problems connecting my wireless modem to ubuntu
[02:06] <agliodbs> genii: I'm really not sure how I should be searchign for information on a package which isn't installed
[02:06] <genii> agliodbs: apt-cache search <name>
[02:06] <bazhang> kelvin, if you can boot into livecd, then you will be using ethernet?
[02:07] <kelvin> bazhang: yes it should work
[02:07] <bazhang> kelvin, that would be the best way to troubleshoot this
[02:07] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[02:07] <kelvin> bazhang: ok come back in a few minutes?
[02:08] <steven_> what's a n00b program to rip dvds so ican watch em later on an external hard drive?
[02:08] <steven_> i want a simple GUI
[02:08] <steven_> like press RIP
[02:08] <OneyFesti> Who in here said they used Compiz again?
[02:08] <steven_> and it does all the work lol
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> steven_: i really like acidrip.. rip em as .avi's. save for later
[02:08] <bazhang> kelvin, I will be here :)
[02:08] <kelvin> bazhang: ok thanks, brb
[02:08] <steven_> acidrip is easy to use?
[02:09] <WuLiao> any can help ? after i set dual tv and monitor , now my menu delay longer , how to fix it ?
[02:09] <OneyFesti> I need someone to find a value for me in compiz that I accidentally deleted.
[02:09] <onthefence928> i'm trying to use thunderbird to read a yahoo account and two hotmail accounts, the yahoo account seems like it's set up but it's not working. as for the hotmail accounts i hear that the hotmail server is stupid and thunderbird needs special add-ons to make it work, which add-ons do i need, and how do i set them up?
[02:09] <JoshuaP0x> hello
[02:09] <georgy28> steven_, : k9copy is easy to use
[02:09] <thegothguy> when i try to connect to my wireless modem i see it on list yet when i connect my WEP password needs 2 more characters than on a win machine and I cant connect
[02:09] <shingalated> I have an weird question... In a script I have MyPASS="pa`ssword"  where pa`ssword is the password how do I get it to treat ` as a regular character?
[02:09] <steven_> i am using xubuntu does that matter?
[02:10] <JoshuaP0x> I have very newbie questions
[02:10] <garrett__> Sort of an odd question, but does anyone know how one might mute their laptop speakers while keeping the headphone output?  the hardware headphone mute is broken
[02:10] <JoshuaP0x> is this the place for them or is there a newbie chan?
[02:10] <OneyFesti> No one is using Compiz or no one is listening to me?
[02:10] <SkinnYPup> Ask away
[02:10] <adam7> !ask | JoshuaP0x
[02:10] <georgy28> steven_, : no
[02:10] <agliodbs> genii: got it, thanks
[02:10] <WuLiao> any can help ? after i set dual tv and monitor , now my menu delay longer , how to fix it ?
[02:10] <garrett__> er--the circuit that cuts off the speakers when the headphones are plugged in
[02:10] <yoyone1> shingalated: try putting a / in front of the '
[02:10] <agliodbs> I should probabkly wait for my query about contract ubuntu admin help to come back
[02:10] <genii> agliodbs: np
[02:11] <OneyFesti> K so everyone is just ignoring me, great.
[02:11] <erichammond> shingalated: One way is to replace your double quotes with single quotes: MyPASS="pa`ssword"
[02:11] <agliodbs> I shouldn't start with the OS by trying to install a groupware server on my own
[02:11] <shingalated> nurmind, backslash worked
[02:11] <JoshuaP0x> ubottu: thanks. I have to take the dog out but i will when i get back
[02:11] <shingalated> thanks guys
[02:11] <JoshuaP0x> thanks.
[02:11] <JoshuaP0x> oops
[02:11] <onthefence928> garrett__: just manually go to sound setting and pipe all the music to your headphones (though i'm not sure if there's a specific head phones option)
[02:11] <erichammond> shingalated: Or escape the back tick with a backslash: MyPASS="pa\`ssword"
[02:11] <litlebuda> hi all how do I install fluxbox from a comand line install on a pc whitout network interfaces ?
[02:11] <aSmig> garrett__, check your sound mixer controls.. sometimes there are different controls for headphone and regular line out
[02:11] <OneyFesti> DO I HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS FOR PEOPLE TO READ WHAT I TYPE?
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> OneyFesti: no, you should type in italics
[02:12] <OneyFesti> Or do I have to use colors?
[02:12] <OneyFesti> LoL IndyGunFreak
[02:12] <aSmig> OneyFesti, no, but that is a good way to get ignored
[02:12] <erichammond> shingalated: My first example should have been: MyPASS='pa`ssword'
[02:12] <OneyFesti> I just can't believe that not one person in here is using Compiz.
[02:12] <steven_> oney
[02:12] <steven_> i use compiz fusion
[02:12] <garrett__> aSmig: ok, i'll take a look
[02:12] <thegothguy> OneyFesti: it seems the true linux people wont talk to us newbies
[02:13] <yellowsubmarine> can anyone help me get cplayer to play flac files?
[02:13] <garrett__> onthefence928: hmmm.. ok
[02:13] <bazhang> OneyFesti, what is the question? #compiz-fusion is the best place for that
[02:13] <OneyFesti> LoL thegothguy
[02:13] <garrett__> onethefen: which "sound setting"?
[02:13] <r1sTo-> a
[02:13] <r1sTo-> a
[02:13] <r1sTo-> a
[02:13] <yoyone1> litlebuda: get fluxbox package onto a usb drive/cdrom/floppy then from a terminal dpkg -i fluxbox.deb
[02:13] <r1sTo-> :D
[02:13] <r1sTo-> What?
[02:13] <FloodBot3> r1sTo-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:13] <bazhang> r1sTo-, stop please
[02:13] <erichammond> shingalated: Realize that a password stored in an environment variable can be seen by other users on the system.
[02:13] <OneyFesti> steven_ or bazhang "Hey anyone in here wanna grab a value for me from the "Open Animation" section? I deleted it by mistake."
[02:14] <bazhang> OneyFesti, what is that
[02:14] <litlebuda> yoyone1, the alternate cd does not have it ?
[02:14] <yellowsubmarine> anyone know how to install flac support in cplayer?
[02:14] <OneyFesti> bazhang, for "Window Match" the two I have are this...
[02:14] <OneyFesti> ((type=Normal | Unknown) | name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer) & !(role=toolTipTip | role=qtooltip_label) & !(type=Normal & override_redirect=1) & !(name=gnome-screensaver)
[02:14] <steven_> talk to bazhang
[02:14] <yoyone1> litlebuda: i don't know
[02:14] <shingalated> erichammond, it is a backup script on a server.  No one can see it unless they have root access...and if they do there is a bigger problem
[02:14] <OneyFesti> And this:
[02:14] <OneyFesti> (type=Tooltip | Notification | Utility)
[02:14] <thegothguy> 	OneyFesti: i asked what is a "simple" question and all i get is ignored dont feel bad
[02:14] <OneyFesti> I'm missing the 3rd.
[02:14] <bazhang> OneyFesti, what app is that for
[02:14] <steven_> which app?
[02:15] <sileni> hey guys im using heron and my sound dies after a while of usage and only starts working after restart
[02:15] <litlebuda> yoyone1, ok  will try
[02:15] <sileni> can someone help me with this problem :)
[02:15] <litlebuda> thanks
[02:15] <bazhang> thegothguy, what question
[02:15] <bazhang> thegothguy, I missed it
[02:15] <eross> will i always have to repair my xorg screen using the recovery grub option, when upgrading the kernel?
[02:15] <yoyone1> litlebuda: do you have a connected system you can test on
[02:15] <Drk_Guy> eross: no
[02:15] <yellowsubmarine> i'm having trouble finding a way to play my flac files in cplayer, can anyone help?
[02:15] <OneyFesti> bazhang: Compiz > Effects > Animations > Open Animation
[02:15] <Drk_Guy> eross: Even if X is upgraded, xorg.conf is mantained
[02:16] <bazhang> OneyFesti, best to ask in compiz channel as they handle the tough ones
[02:16] <thegothguy> im trying to connect to my wireless modem but my WEP key is like 3 charachters too short but works fine on a win machine any answers
[02:16] <eross> so far i fall into low-resolution every time the header has been upgraded (last 3,  .17 - .19)
[02:16] <OneyFesti> It's easy just go look in yours. =P
[02:16] <litlebuda> yoyone1, yes i have this one
[02:16] <OneyFesti> bazhang, if you're running compiz then your values are there by default.
[02:16] <OneyFesti> I deleted one of the default values by mistake.
[02:16] <Drk_Guy> eross: Extarnge, back-up your xorg.conf everytime that happens
[02:16] <stevenbrown> programs are not moving files they create out of my /tmp directory.  the permissions of /tmp are "drwxrwxrwt"  - I'm not sure what the "t" means (tmp?) but is this a problem?
[02:16] <OneyFesti> No one is #compiz-fusion is replying.
[02:16] <eross> i can do it now, haven't rebooted yet on the last update
[02:17] <bazhang> OneyFesti, I am not using compiz; the best person to ask is cr-dlb (without the hyphen) in #compiz-fusion channel
[02:17] <stevenbrown> anyway, i need programs to move their tmp files.  any help appreciated.  :)
[02:17] <kelvin> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22482/
[02:17] <OneyFesti> Damnit. =(
[02:17] <jdrake> Is there a way to get portaudio to not turn off the sound when moving to a different terminal?
[02:17] <yoyone1> install fluxbox on the working machine and note any dependancies as well.  then copy those files to usb.  the files will be in /var/cache/apt/archive
[02:17] <OneyFesti> No one responds in there.
[02:18] <eross> load "glx" - i see no video resolution options in it
[02:18] <bazhang> kelvin, what does sudo dhclient wlan0 return (any dhcpoffers) also, is this an open router, and if not please open it for test
[02:18] <tofaffy> I installed cairo-dock yesterday and it ran fine. I went to start it up today, and when I pull the dock out, it has a black bar behind it and it's all glitchy. Is there a known problem?
[02:18]  * ace_suares is in da house
[02:19] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: what was yr question ?
[02:19] <yellowsubmarine> can anyone help me? i wish to run flac in cplay
[02:19] <kelvin> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22483/
[02:19] <yellowsubmarine> er, play flac files
[02:19] <OneyFesti> ace_suares, I deleted one of the default animation values by mistake.
[02:19] <JoshuaP0x>  is there a way to see my choices of installed programs that i can run?
[02:19] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: animation values ?
[02:19] <kelvin> bazhang: this router is from the university, I can't open it
[02:20] <OneyFesti> Yeah for Window Match
[02:20] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: the menu?
[02:20] <onthefence928> OneyFesti: that's why capies should always be made before you modify a file, though i'm sorry i know nothing of compiz so i can't help u
[02:20] <JoshuaP0x> yoyo: yes
[02:20] <onthefence928> copies*
[02:20] <Colin1> Cant seem to figure out how to install terminatorx
[02:20] <OneyFesti> onthefence928, it wasn't about making a copy dude.
[02:20] <OneyFesti> I was just changing some settings and right next to modify is delete and I clicked the wrong one by mistake and it doesnt ask you.
[02:20] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: click on applications
[02:20] <kelvin> bazhang: dhcpoffers how I do it?
[02:20] <ericholscher> does anyone know why when I install ubuntu w/ parallels the screen resolution is tiny, and it doesn't detect the video card?
[02:20] <JoshuaP0x> i'm in shell
[02:21] <fabz0r> u r crab people
[02:21] <yoyone1> ls /usr/bin
[02:21] <onthefence928> OneyFesti: ah well i'm sorry then, that's tough luck
[02:21] <erichammond> shingalated: Looks like my info might be a few years out of date.  Ubuntu ps does not appear to let users see the environment variables in other user's processes any more.
[02:21] <bazhang> kelvin, if you sudo dhclient wlan0 what is the output (should get dhcpoffers)
[02:22] <Colin1> fabz0r: How would I go about installing terminatorX?
[02:22] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: 'dpkg-query -l'
[02:22] <OneyFesti> ace_suares, Go to your CompizConfig Settings Manager > Effects > Animations > Open Animation and tell me if you see three open effect options.
[02:22] <alberto_> hey guys i have two displays configured on Hardy (my lcd monitor and my TV) but the image on the TV seems to be overscaned... i've looked trough the forums but i didn't get something useful, does anybody know how can i change my "Overscan" options, 'cause i don't have it on the nvidia-settings thanks.
[02:22] <JoshuaP0x> how do you make it so when you type ls /usr/bin, it scrolls down one page at a time
[02:22] <Colin1> fabz0r: I download the tar.gz file, but I don't know what to do with these things.
[02:22] <erichammond> shingalated: ...though command line arguments are still available to anybody on the system.
[02:22] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: ls /usr/bin|less
[02:23] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: which one are you missing ?
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: what program did you download a tarfile for?
[02:23] <kelvin> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22485/
[02:23] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: that is ls /usr/bin then pipe (vert bar above enter) then less
[02:23] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: I have Glide 1, Fade and Fade.
[02:23] <OneyFesti> ace_suares, I'm not sure which I'm missing; I know the two I have are "((type=Normal | Unknown) | name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer) & !(role=toolTipTip | role=qtooltip_label) & !(type=Normal & override_redirect=1) & !(name=gnome-screensaver)" and "(type=Tooltip | Notification | Utility)"
[02:23] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak TerminatorX.  I'm trying to be able to run more then 1 instance of music
[02:23] <OneyFesti> I have one of the fades.
[02:23] <OneyFesti> I deleted one of the other fades ace_suares
[02:23] <bazhang> kelvin, is this router using encryption? if so please disable for test.
[02:23] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak Some guy said I should try that program.
[02:24] <OneyFesti> The second, shorter one of the two I listed is one of the fades.
[02:24] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: Okey here they are:
[02:24] <OneyFesti> I think I deleted the 1st fade.
[02:24] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: (type=Menu | PopupMenu | DropdownMenu | Dialog | ModalDialog | Normal)
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: that program is in the repositories, no need compile it from source.
[02:24] <JoshuaP0x> I type xterm and it says xterm: Display is not set
[02:24]  * OneyFesti loves ace_suares
[02:24] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: (type=Tooltip | Notification | Utility)
[02:24] <JoshuaP0x> how do i set it?
[02:24] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: bothe are Fade 150
[02:24] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak Sooo... from that synaw/e thing?
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: System/Admin/Synaptic Package Manager.. do a search for Terminator, right click, mark for install, then apply, apply
[02:25] <axel_> hello
[02:25] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: xterm need  graphical environment to run
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> !hello | axel_
[02:25] <OneyFesti> It was the first one ace_suares =D
[02:25] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: dont you just want Application->Accesoires -> Terminal ?
[02:25] <mical> testing
[02:25] <OneyFesti> Thanks a ton.
[02:25] <JoshuaP0x> thats what i'm trying to get into
[02:25] <JoshuaP0x> the gui
[02:25] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: gald I could help!
[02:25] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: try startx
[02:25] <axel_> what is the file that tells modprobe what to autoprobe?
[02:25] <JoshuaP0x> oh
[02:25] <JoshuaP0x> :)
[02:25] <Nostahl> hi all im trying to watch a dvd for the first time and its choppy any idea's how to fix this
[02:26] <kelvin> bazhang: then what?
[02:26] <genii> The stuff in modprobe.d
[02:26] <yoyone1> JoshuaP0x: let me know if that works
[02:26] <trotzkyizt> :O
[02:26] <ace_suares> axel_: /etc/modules
[02:26] <axel_> oh
[02:26] <bazhang> kelvin, then try the command sudo dhclient wlan0 again
[02:27] <tofaffy> I installed cairo-dock yesterday and it ran fine. I went to start it up today, and when I pull the dock out, it has a black bar behind it and it's all glitchy. Is there a known problem?
[02:27] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: does the gui not start up automatically !?
[02:27] <Reformer81> Okay, does ANYONE else have the problem with playing flash in Firefox and then not being able to use any other sound application until rebooting?  This has been happening for me since switching to Hardy ... doesn't matter if I try to use Pulse or ALSA... same thing every time.
[02:27] <ace_suares> tofaffy: sounds like lack of composite in your videocard
[02:27] <genii> ace_suares: No, that only has a list of what modules to load at boot. The sub-modules to load based on what original module you load is something different.
[02:27] <cooldeniz> list
[02:27] <Nostahl> how do i fix choppy dvd playback
[02:27] <tofaffy> ace_suares, but it worked before just fine?
[02:27] <ace_suares> !modules
[02:28] <tofaffy> ace_suares, maybe because I didn't have compiz started up!!! my bad.
[02:28] <ace_suares> !modprobe
[02:28] <ace_suares> tofaffy: porbably that's it.
[02:28] <SeaPhor> Nostahl, what are you using to play it?
[02:28] <tofaffy> haha thanks :D
[02:28] <Da1> can someone torrent me a copy of the internet?
[02:28] <ace_suares> tofaffy: the docs says 'without compiz we can still work with fake tranparency'.
[02:29] <kelvin> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22486/
[02:29] <Jaseem> i am new here
[02:29]  * OneyFesti cries. "Time to reboot back into Windows." =(
[02:29] <Gnea> Da1: send me a hard drive that will contain it all and you got yourself a deal
[02:29] <mfoxtrot> Hey gents, I'm goofing around with the Universal Menu Bar extension to GNOME - and was curious if anyone knew of a way to make Firefox's menu bar also appear at the top of the screen, like all of the GTK apps do. Anyone?
[02:29] <ace_suares> mfoxtrot: no clue sorry.
[02:29] <Jaseem> I have requested for an ubuntu cd
[02:30] <Jaseem> When will i get it?
[02:30] <georgy28> kelvin : what is the output from iwconfig ?
[02:30] <SeaPhor> Da1, ask the ex-vice
[02:30] <Gnea> Jaseem: have fun waiting around for awhile
[02:30] <ace_suares> !hi| Jaseem
[02:30] <sileni> hey
[02:30] <Jaseem> k
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> Jaseem: most of them seem to take 6-8 weeks.
[02:30] <Gnea> Jaseem: last time i requested cds, they took several months
[02:30] <Da1> is ubottu written in python?
[02:30] <keram> hello
[02:30] <ace_suares> Jaseem: depends where you live.
[02:30] <keram> how do i find out what the bus id is of my video card?
[02:30] <Jaseem> what is the chat here about now
[02:30] <ace_suares> !ubutto
[02:31] <Da1> keram > lspci
[02:31] <Gnea> keram: lspci
[02:31] <kelvin> georgy28: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22487/
[02:31] <ace_suares> !ubotto
[02:31] <Jaseem> what?
[02:31] <sileni> hey guys
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> Jaseem: this is a support channel, for random chatter "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[02:31] <sileni> right now my sound is working on my laptop
[02:31] <sileni> but after i watch anime for sometime it goes away
[02:31] <Jaseem> oh, thanks
[02:31] <sileni> and i have to restart computer
[02:31] <ace_suares> Jaseem: different people trying to solve their problems and diiferent other people trying to help. (and learn on the way).
[02:31] <sileni> to get it to work again, can someone help me fix this problem :(
[02:31] <keram> dal and Gnea, what part is the bus id? i thought it was in the format: PCI:#:#:#
[02:31] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[02:31] <Jaseem> k, thank you for telling me about this place
[02:32] <Kelen> I saw firefox 3.0 has already include in sources, but still not update yet. why??
[02:32] <Da1> is the source for ubottu available?
[02:32] <Gnea> keram: you may need to check the options for lspci, just man lspci  or lspci --help
[02:32] <Colin1> Gah... I still can't run multiple instances of music.
[02:32] <ace_suares> Jaseem: come back anytime when you have questions!
[02:32] <georgy28> kelvin, : and iwlist scanning ?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: you mean like play two mp3's at the same time?
[02:32] <Colin1> Yes.
[02:32] <Gnea> Kelen: cuz they're still testing it out on the pr0n sites
[02:32] <ace_suares> !seen ace_suares
[02:33] <Da1> !help
[02:33] <bazhang> !coc | Gnea
[02:33] <kelvin> georgy28: lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[02:33] <kelvin> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[02:33] <kelvin> wmaster0  Interface doesn't support scanning.
[02:33] <kelvin> wlan0     No scan results
[02:33] <ace_suares> ubottu
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: thats a pulse-audio bug.. if you switch all your programs to ALSA, and your main sound to Alsa, it will probably work.
[02:33] <bazhang> !fishing | ace_suares
[02:33] <Nostahl> whats easyest way to see what my rom is labeled as ie hdc sda that type of thing
[02:33] <sileni> IndyGunFreak: you seem knowledgeable, my sound seems to stop working randomly do you know of any bugs of such in hardy?
[02:34] <nano_> im trying to stop pulseaudio system from loading, so what i did was to change /etc/rc2.d/S25pulseaudio to /etc/rc2.d/K75pulseaudio........however, after restart i still get pulseaudio loading up?? anybody?
[02:34] <sileni> IndyGunFreak: if i restart it works but sometime later it goes off again
[02:34] <georgy28> kelvin, wlan0     No scan results -----> you card don't see your router
[02:34] <ace_suares> bazhang: well Da1 was asking some serious questions and I didnt know how to answer. I tought ubottu would tell uis where he lived when invoked as !ubottu. Mayeb youcan invoke it's help line ?
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> sileni: randomly?.. not really... pulse-audio has a lot of issues(for me), i've found using alsa, and setting all my programs to use alsa, has solved my sound issues.
[02:34] <sileni> ah
[02:34] <kelvin> georgy28: yea ;(
[02:34] <ace_suares> nano_ rc2 is not the correct runlevel, is it ?
[02:34] <nano_> ace_suares, yes it is
[02:34] <sileni> IndyGunFreak: i will try that thanks :)
[02:34] <bazhang> ace_suares, best to open a PM with the bot /msg ubottu
[02:35] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak Just tried it, still won't work.
[02:35] <nano_> nano@nano-laptop:/etc/modprobe.d$ runlevel
[02:35] <nano_> N 2
[02:35] <Blaqlight> pulseaudio is the only reason in the world I have sound at all.
[02:35] <Gnea> bazhang: oh, you misinterpretted. that wasn't meant in a disrespectful way. people use it to look at such things all of the time. but sorry, it won't happen again.
[02:35] <ace_suares> Da1: bazhang's comments are really for you :-)
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: what program are you playing your mp3's in?
[02:35] <bazhang> Gnea, thanks
[02:35] <sileni> IndyGunFreak: to set it to alsa i just go to system preference sound and set everything from autodetect to ALSA?
[02:35] <nano_> ace_suares, what ya think?
[02:35] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak I tried loading one MP3 in Movie player, and one in MPlayer
[02:35] <Kelen> Gnea: OK,thanks for you answer..  :)
[02:36] <ace_suares> nano_: I'd find /etc/init.d/pulseaudio and insert an exit 0 near the top.
[02:36] <Kelen> Gnea: So, will going to update while they finish that?
[02:37] <kelvin> bazhang: any idea?
[02:37] <nano_> ace_suares, yes, but y is the change i am making not taking effect.  I should be able to change /etc/rc2.d/S25pulseaudio to /etc/rc2.d/K75pulseaudio to make it freaking stop.
[02:37] <nano_> do i need to reload something?
[02:37] <nano_> or update?
[02:37] <OneyFesti> ace_suares, if you're still here, One more question about compiz; how do I change the animation when I move from one window to the next? Right now it's set on "dodge"
[02:37] <lukas__> Hello, I have a dell xps m1530 laptop and I cannot get my wireless to work.  The wireless card isn't even being detected in the network admin prefs
[02:37] <YoLeisure> what kind of wlan-card do you have?
[02:38] <lukas__> its integrated on the m1530
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: i don't know, can't really explain that one.
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: are you getting errors, or is it just only playing one of them?
[02:38] <georgy28> lukas__, lspci in a terminal
[02:38] <ace_suares> OneyFesti: no clue :-) sorry.
[02:38] <bazhang> kelvin, the Windows Wireless Drivers is something not in regular Ubuntu-->is this Ubuntu ultimate or something other
[02:38] <nano_> im trying to stop pulseaudio system from loading, so what i did was to change /etc/rc2.d/S25pulseaudio to /etc/rc2.d/K75pulseaudio........however, after restart i still get pulseaudio loading up??
[02:39] <ace_suares> nano_: why dont you try my suggestion ? K scripts are only executed when you go down.
[02:39] <OneyFesti> K ace_suares thanks again though. =)
[02:39] <OneyFesti> Back to winblows.
[02:40] <lukas__> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[02:40] <Xeon> Does anyone know how I could use the keypad to input special characters (alt + ascii code) just like in Windows?
[02:40] <nano_> ace_suares, but the readme in /etc/rc2.d said that just by changing it to K.... i could stop it from being loaded
[02:40] <kelvin> bazhang: I think that is the original because I download it from ubuntu.com, also right now I don't see it System -> Administration
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> !broadcom | lukas__
[02:40] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff lukas__ try this
[02:40] <ace_suares> nano_: well I am out of options, I really don't know.
[02:40] <kelvin> bazhang: maybe I downloaded it using some tutorial yesterday
[02:40] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak: It plays one, and errors the other
[02:40] <bazhang> kelvin, what tutorial
[02:41] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak: Well, actually, only Mplayer gets the error.
[02:41] <spoonman> lukas__: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5158330&postcount=10
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: i'm not really sure to be truthful.. i don't use mplayer..
[02:41] <DIL> join #linux
[02:41] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak: So I spose this would be forum material then?
[02:41] <kelvin> bazhang: it hard to said because I visited a lot of pages yesterday and tried like 3 of them
[02:42] <JoshuaP0x> how do i switch users?
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Colin1: yeah, i guess so, ..
[02:42] <ace_suares> Xeon: I have the modifeir key set to the windows key. It's not exaclty what you want but it does produce ë and such
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> sorry i couldn't be more help
[02:42] <Colin1> IndyGunFreak Well, thanks for the help.
[02:42] <JoshuaP0x> -su = switch user?
[02:42] <kelvin> bazhang: This was one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684
[02:42] <grndslm> ace_suares:  i'd like to hear your solution too
[02:42] <Xeon> Oh?  I can't find it in Gniome right now :-(
[02:43] <JoshuaP0x> fanz0r: how do i check what users are on the machine?
[02:43] <JoshuaP0x> rather
[02:43] <kelvin> bazhang: and this last one http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[02:43] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: 'w'
[02:43] <Xeon> Oh allright thanks.
[02:43] <fabz0r> check the System Monitor
[02:43] <Kyrin> don't suppose anyone knows a linux app for easily reencoding a video for play on a psp?
[02:44] <JoshuaP0x> rather
[02:44] <bazhang> kelvin, the first is for broadcom
[02:44] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[02:44] <fabz0r> system>administration>system monitor
[02:44] <JoshuaP0x> what users i have to log in as
[02:44] <fabz0r> then hit the tabs and check out whats going on
[02:44] <fabz0r> you can login as any user
[02:44] <fabz0r> i mean
[02:44] <ace_suares> Xeon, grndslm i got it tough
[02:44] <JoshuaP0x> users that are set up on the machine
[02:44] <fabz0r> do you have to log in as to do what
[02:44] <bazhang> kelvin, and the second is for intel.
[02:44] <JoshuaP0x> what user accounts i have
[02:44] <fabz0r> heaps
[02:45] <JoshuaP0x> root
[02:45] <fabz0r> different apps have different users
[02:45] <ace_suares> grndslm: System=>pref->Keyboard, clikc on layouts
[02:45] <fabz0r> theres root i guess
[02:45] <bazhang> kelvin, you are giving so many conflicting stories here it is hard to keep track.
[02:45] <JoshuaP0x> I would like to log in as admin/root
[02:45] <fabz0r> but thats more a redhat/fedora thing
[02:45] <ace_suares> grndslm: then select your kb lauyout (USA ?) then Layout options.
[02:45] <kelvin> bazhang: sorry
[02:45] <fabz0r> ubuntu/debian focuses on giving more power to the superuser
[02:45] <JoshuaP0x> but i dont remember setting up a root
[02:45] <fabz0r> yeah cos you didnt
[02:45] <JoshuaP0x> oh
[02:45] <ace_suares> grndslm: then Composite key position
[02:45] <fabz0r> you did however type in something like joshua when you set the machine up
[02:45] <bazhang> !mint | kelvin
[02:46] <fabz0r> it needs a user of some kind
[02:46] <JoshuaP0x> i type reboot and it says i have to be root
[02:46] <fabz0r> that has rootlike powers when asked to do so
[02:46] <fabz0r> but it doesnt need one called root
[02:46] <ace_suares> !sudo | JoshuaP0x
[02:46] <fabz0r> yeah
[02:46] <JoshuaP0x> i only setup one user, that's me
[02:46] <fabz0r> thats it
[02:46] <grndslm> ace_suares:  Compose key position??
[02:46] <fabz0r> sudos what you want
[02:46] <solexious> [Q] I'm trying to set up check_hpjd for nagios on my ubuntu server. I need to install net-snmp but cant find it in the repository's, could it be named some thing else?
[02:46] <kelvin> bazhang: how I know if this is not the original ubuntu?
[02:46] <ace_suares> grndslm: yeah
[02:46] <grndslm> where's that?
[02:47] <ace_suares> grndslm: are you on Gnome ?
[02:47] <grndslm> oh yea
[02:47] <fabz0r> that mean it makes joshua the SuperUser and makes you DO stuff
[02:47] <ace_suares> fabz0r: he he yeah
[02:47] <fabz0r> ie: sudo joshua mkdir dirname
[02:47] <ace_suares> fabz0r: no, 'sudo mkdir dirname'
[02:47] <alex__> Genii?
[02:47] <ace_suares> fabz0r: leave out the joshua.
[02:47] <kejava> can someone with a hardy install do me a favor?  open up System --> Preferences --> Removable Drives and Media.  do you have a tab that says "Storage" ?  on my hardy install, i don't have it.  I had to disable auto CD mounting via the gconf-editor.  is there a new gui for doing this or is my setup just messed up?
[02:47] <bazhang> kelvin, how about giving us a screenshot
[02:47] <fabz0r> oh yeah
[02:48] <fabz0r> thats true your already logged in
[02:48] <ace_suares> fabz0r: have to be logged in ;0
[02:48] <ace_suares> grndslm: found it ?
[02:48] <asmo[B]> what's the fastest way to setup sharing between my ubuntu desktop and my windows laptop
[02:48] <fabz0r> aye my bad
[02:48] <fabz0r> brb plugging in the infernal cable again
[02:48] <grndslm> ace_suares:  so, in gnome keyboard prefs, click on layout options, then compose key to Left win-key??
[02:48] <genii> alex__: Yes :) So in this case use Terminal then put in:    dmesg|tail                and then copy that to pastebin. We need to find what drive devicename it gets before we can try to make it mount.
[02:49] <ace_suares> grndslm: or any key you want. Let's say it is Win, then type Win, ", e to get ë
[02:49] <Kidfork> Why isn't "Playonlinux" in the Ubuntu respos
[02:49] <ace_suares> grndslm: not Win-"-e ! just win, ", e
[02:49] <kelvin> bazhang: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/107/screenshotel7.png
[02:50] <ace_suares> asmo[B]: try Places -> Connect to Server
[02:50] <ace_suares> asmo[B]: from the Gnome Menu
[02:50] <grndslm> ace_suares:  doesn't work
[02:50] <dmsuperman> so, does anybody know how to make terminator have the same opacity-lowering effect as gnome-terminal? I want the border and text to stay 100% opacity, but the background of the terminal to go down in opacity
[02:50] <ace_suares> grndslm: what did you type ?
[02:51] <grndslm> Win + e??
[02:51] <grndslm> or are you sayin' Win pause " pause e??
[02:51] <bazhang> kelvin, well that is the ubuntu livecd; what about a screenshot of your system -->administration menu in the installed version? you installed broadcom drivers for your intel wireless card? please also pastebin output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:51] <ace_suares> grndslm: no, you need Win, ", e so win, double quotes, e... what letter you want to get anyway ?
[02:52] <kelvin> bazhang: I will restart and come back
[02:52]  * ace_suares is leaving da house in 5 minutes.
[02:52] <grndslm> ace_suares:  last line was more understandable
[02:52] <grndslm> thanks!
[02:52] <DrLame> Is ubuntu pretty friendly with wireless internet cards?
[02:52] <bazhang> DrLame, what card
[02:52] <DrLame> I remember that was my problem last time I tried to set it up..
[02:53] <ace_suares> DrLame: wireless internet or wifi ?
[02:53] <DrLame> bazhang, it's built into the motherboard. Let me look it up real quick
[02:53] <DrLame> ace_suares, for wireless internet
[02:53] <DrLame> one sec
[02:53] <ace_suares> grndslm: happy to help :-)
[02:53] <grndslm> np
[02:53] <ace_suares> DrLame: okay.
[02:53] <grndslm> for the assistance
[02:53] <bazhang> DrLame, lspci in the terminal will tell you (just the one line)
[02:54] <JoshuaP0x> what do you use for IRC chats on linux?
[02:54] <DrLame> Does that list pci devices?
[02:54] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: Konversation
[02:54] <bazhang> DrLame, yes
[02:54] <scyon> JoshuaP0x: I like irssi personally.
[02:54] <lukas__> Hello, I have a bcm4328 wireless card and even installing the firmware from the frimcut package and rebooting the wireless card isnt' being detected
[02:54] <DrLame> bazhang, I don't think it's pci tho =X Think it'd still list?
[02:55] <nano_> in what file is the $PATH variable defined in Hardy Heron?
[02:55] <DrLame> I think it's a usb module
[02:55] <bazhang> DrLame, the lsusb :)
[02:55] <kelvin> bazhang: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3448/screenshotko0.png
[02:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff lukas__ here again
[02:56] <kelvin> bazhang: I don't installed that Broadcom drivers
[02:56] <spoonman> lukas__: did you read that forum post I pasted?
[02:56] <Beryllium> hey, uh, I installed Ubuntu-Server on a machine (headless) and now I need to be able to VNC in and run an application under Wine ... what's the best way to apt-get the stuff I need to convert it to Ubuntu-desktop? Is it just as simple as apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:56] <spoonman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5158330&postcount=10
[02:56] <JoshuaP0x> what is kubuntu vs ubuntu?
[02:56] <lukas__> spoonman: i don't have that wifi card
[02:56] <kelvin> bazhang: 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[02:56] <spoonman> kubuntu has kde, ubuntu has gnome
[02:57] <DrLame> bazhang cool =) lsusb will tell me if it's compatible? Or just what it sees it as so I can search for drivers? or...? Sry, new to linux
[02:57] <lukas__> bazhang: i'm using hardy should i still follow the feisty steps?
[02:57] <JoshuaP0x> so i can not install programs for k on u?
[02:57] <ace_suares> !kubuntu | JoshuaP0x
[02:57] <bazhang> DrLame, that will tell us how good it is so we can tell you :)
[02:57] <Kyrin> don't suppose anyone knows a linux app for easily reencoding a video for play on a psp?
[02:57] <bazhang> JoshuaP0x, sure you can
[02:57] <Beryllium> *tries apt-get install ubuntu-desktop* holy carp that's a lot of packages. Looks like the option I want :)
[02:58] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: yeas you can
[02:58] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x: just apt-get install konversation
[02:58] <ace_suares> JoshuaP0x:  and it will install all needed stuff (konversation is just an example)l.
[02:58] <DrLame> bazhang, cool =) I'm gonna format a 320 gig hdd here in a min to use for linux. What do you reccomend I install?
[02:58] <EagleStar> Does anyone know what i did wrong: i shrunk my ntfs partition and expanded my sda2--sda5 and yet it shows all the new space i added to /dev/spa5/ as used.......?
[02:58] <bazhang> DrLame, first tell us the output of lsusb for that nic :)
[02:58] <leleobhz> someone know about Xen kernel bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/240903
[02:59] <spoonman> lukas__: I think the problem is with your laptop's WiFi Capture deal, and the model of the card is probably not important
[02:59] <lukas__> spoonman: i'll try it
[02:59] <|Juan|> I have a main user whos session I keep always open. Then I have a second user for anyone else who wants to use the computer. Since I upgraded to Hardy, whenever the second user logs in after my user's session is locked, the second user automatically leaves its session, goes to the gdm screen, re-authenticates and continues with its session while mine is killed. Any help?
[02:59] <DrLame> bazhang, I'm on windows at the moment =) Gonna set up a dual boot to linux. I guess I could dig out my old old ubuntu boot cd to see or something?
[02:59]  * ace_suares says goodnight all ! Good Luck !
[03:00] <bazhang> DrLame, or just look it up in the windows info (somewhere)
[03:00] <DrLame> kk
[03:00] <DrLame> Realrek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps USB2.0 Network Adapter
[03:01] <DrLame> *realtek
[03:01] <ace_suares> DrLame: that's wifi not wireless internet, isn't it :)
[03:01] <bazhang> DrLame, is there no internal wireless on that?
[03:01] <komputes> How can I disconnect/reconnect a USB device through a command?
[03:02] <checkers> hi, how do I change the default application text files open with?
[03:02] <DrLame> ooooooo... wireless internet = internet thru cell card or something not requiring wifi?
[03:02] <bazhang> DrLame, nah, you got it right the first time :)
[03:02] <DrLame> bazhang, it's attached to the motherboard internally. It's not an external usb
[03:02] <EagleStar> Does anyone know what i did wrong: i shrunk my ntfs partition and expanded my sda2--sda5 and yet it shows all the new space i added to /dev/spa5/ as used.......? so what did i do wrong and can i fix it?
[03:03] <bazhang> DrLame, best way to find out is to boot up live cd and check if it sees your card :)
[03:03] <DrLame> Meaning the drivers could be autoloaded if I'm lucky?
[03:03] <DrLame> Or just seen?
[03:03] <sick_ejb> is it possible to install mac on normal operating system ?
[03:03] <bazhang> DrLame, same difference :)
[03:03] <EagleStar> -_- lol
[03:03] <DrLame> lol, kk
[03:03] <lukas__> i just tried turning wifi catcher off on my m1530, ubuntu still doesn't detect my wireless card
[03:03] <sick_ejb> oh sorry
[03:03] <bazhang> sick_ejb, not legally no
[03:04] <sick_ejb> ok
[03:04] <grndslm> what do you guys think about using flash -vs- gnash in 8.04
[03:04] <sick_ejb> bazhang, but still is it possible ?
[03:04] <DrLame> bazhang, is there a link to the live cd handy?
[03:04] <bazhang> grndslm, use flash
[03:04] <spoonman> i get rendering issues with gnash
[03:04] <bazhang> sick_ejb, likely, but offtopic here
[03:04] <grndslm> bazhang, you don't experience more crashes in firefox with flash?
[03:04] <grndslm> i've experienced quite a few
[03:04] <JoshuaP0x> hey
[03:05] <fabz0r> hi
[03:05] <jj_P289> does anyone have a moment to help me or direct me where i can disable my forward and backward buttons on my IBM laptop everytime i write something on a webpage and try to use the arrow keys and fat finger and miss and then ruin everything i've done... :( its very annonying
[03:05] <bazhang> grndslm, not really, though I dont have ten tabs with it open :)
[03:05] <JoshuaP0x> I installed konversation
[03:05] <mystery_> hi
[03:05] <JoshuaP0x> how do you list all of the chans?
[03:05] <fabz0r> is that an irc client or something?
[03:05] <JoshuaP0x> yes
[03:05] <kelvin> bazhang:  any suggestion :)?
[03:05] <mystery_> can anyone telll me how to determine what version of gtk i have
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> !irc | fabz0r
[03:05] <grndslm> bazhang:  it's such a shame that 10+ tabs open was great in firefox 2, but with firefox 3, it crashes with number of open tabs, it *does* seem....
[03:05] <grndslm> pity
[03:05] <fabz0r> slash list
[03:05] <fabz0r> the slash next to the shift
[03:05] <JoshuaP0x> cool
[03:06] <JoshuaP0x> thanks.
[03:06] <bazhang> JoshuaP0x, check the Konversation help and faq
[03:06] <JoshuaP0x> baz: will do
[03:06] <JoshuaP0x> I'm starting to like Linux
[03:06] <bazhang> is there a #konversation channel as well?
[03:06] <JoshuaP0x> go figure..
[03:06] <DrLame> bazhang, is Hardy Heron what I should be downloading?
[03:06] <JoshuaP0x> chan for everything
[03:07] <bazhang> JoshuaP0x, they have a channel too :)
[03:07] <unavailable> getting this at boot : udev[2831] adding rule invalid rule  /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules:96   > line 96 is commented out, line 97 has SUBSYSTEM==”usb_device”, GROUP=”usbusers”, MODE=”0664″
[03:07] <fabz0r> hardy herron is le orsm
[03:07] <fabz0r> get it for your freakin toaster
[03:07] <onisciente> Whats more secure to transform my wubi ubuntu installation into a real one?
[03:07] <bazhang> DrLame, you might try gutsy, and if that goes well then hardy, really up to you though
[03:08] <Kidfork> Im having a little trouble starting compiz heres the output: http://www.pastebin.org/45736
[03:08] <fabz0r> bazhang:  but wont gutsy be older?
[03:08] <spoonman> Hardy still has some quirks
[03:08] <tofaffy> I have flock web browser installed and it is set to default, but when I click on a .html file it opens firefox.
[03:08] <fabz0r> if you have a new radeon 3870 then use hardy because it works
[03:08] <bazhang> fabz0r, hardy still has some rough spots :)
[03:08] <fabz0r> and some things that work ?!
[03:08] <fabz0r> sure
[03:09] <fabz0r> but hardy har har hardware support eh?
[03:09] <DrLame> lol?
[03:09] <unavailable> getting this at boot : udev[2831] adding rule invalid rule  /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules:96   > line 96 is commented out, line 97 has SUBSYSTEM==”usb_device”, GROUP=”usbusers”, MODE=”0664″
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> i haven no hardware issues at all on 3 PC's... other than one is underpowered, so i put Debian on it.
[03:09] <lukas__> could someone help me with my wireless?  I cn't get my wireless working on my xps m1530
[03:09] <kelvin> bazhang: hello:)
[03:10] <mystery_> how can you check the version of gtk
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: what is your wireless device?
[03:10] <fabz0r> so
[03:10] <fabz0r> whats wrong with hardy?
[03:10] <cpk1> question:  I am trying to set up a samba share on my dsektop which is on network 192.168.1.XXX so a laptop on network 192.168.2.XXX can access it, is this going to be difficult for me?
[03:10] <fabz0r> is it still beta or something?
[03:10] <lukas__> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[03:10] <DrLame> Okay, so I'm going to download a 7.10 cd and burn it then
[03:10] <kon_> where do you get asm/io.h for gutsy? (x86)
[03:10] <fabz0r> they had me fooled i thought it was released
[03:10] <bazhang> fabz0r, lets continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: are you using Hardy or another version?
[03:10] <fabz0r> k
[03:10] <lukas__> hardy
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: hardy i believe supports broadcom out fo the box now...
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> !broadcom | lukas__
[03:11] <lukas__> right it is supposed to...
[03:11] <JeffFromOhio> Hello. Can someone help me get X.org using the nVidia accellerated driver?
[03:11] <JeffFromOhio> I had it working, but broke it =(
[03:11] <lukas__> yeah i've chcked that wiki sectdion a hundred times
[03:11] <JeffFromOhio> I tried to use the envyng package to install the latest driver
[03:11] <spikeb> heh
[03:12] <spikeb> any reason why?
[03:12] <DrLame> The fast-paced nature of this room is daunting. bazhang, you lurking somewhere with a slower environment? lol
[03:12] <JeffFromOhio> spikeb: are you asking me, or someone else?
[03:12] <spikeb> JeffFromOhio: yes you, sorry
[03:12] <grtessman> omg guys, I am having a serious problem with Firefox and JRE/JDK on Ubuntu Hardy
[03:12] <bazhang> DrLame, #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting :)
[03:12] <JeffFromOhio> well, because I've been getting some graphical glitches in some 3D games, which I was hoping would be corrected with the latest driver
[03:12] <grtessman> I have been working all day for this
[03:12] <lukas__> IndyGunFreak: any other ideas?
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: did you follow this part of it?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[03:13] <lukas__> yes
[03:13] <JeffFromOhio> Turns out that the 3D games seemed to work better, but Gnome was messed up
[03:13] <JeffFromOhio> So, I decided it might be a good idea to revert to the original drivers
[03:13] <aeGIs> Question: Whenever I access something that requires my admin password (Update Manager, etc.) the background goes slightly gray/dark....  However, once I enter my password, the background does not update properly.  You have to drag a window around to make the screen catch up.  Any ideas as to how to fix this?
[03:13] <unavailable> ok guys my 40-permissions.rules >>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22493/    should i delete line 96 and place line 97 somewhere between lines 66-72?
[03:14] <CatCheeto> Does mysql server come with a default password for root?
[03:14] <lukas__> IndyGunFreak: according to this fdo site its unsupported =[
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: no clue, i'm not real familiar w/ broadcom, iuse atheros, which works quite well w/ madwifi
[03:14] <SeaPhor> i an wantinting to set-up a video/audio conference with some potential clients, i have VNC tunneled thru ssh already, so that part is covered, but all the clients have windows boxes (laptops), how do i make the conference, and since i am sponsoring, how can i do this in ubuntu?
[03:14] <grtessman> Is it just impossible to get JRE/JDK to work with Firefox 2 or Firefox 3 in Ubuntu Hardy?  Can someone please tell me what the secret is?
[03:14] <lukas__> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[03:14] <__ryan__> i have a broadcom
[03:14] <__ryan__> b43
[03:14] <JeffFromOhio> So, I ran envyng -T (which launches the text-mode interface for envy), and used envy to uninstall the driver I had just installed with envy
[03:14] <lukas__> bcm4328?
[03:15] <__ryan__> close lol
[03:15] <JeffFromOhio> after that, I tried to use the restricted driver GUI tool in Gnome to re-enable the original nVidia driver
[03:15] <unavailable> ok guys my 40-permissions.rules >>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22493/    should i delete line 96 and place line 97 somewhere between lines 66-72?
[03:15] <fabz0r> JeffFromOhio: check out envy
[03:15] <__ryan__> lukas__,  what's the issue with it?
[03:15] <fabz0r> it is a frontend that installs drivers for you
[03:15] <fabz0r> i mean like a helper app
[03:15] <CatCheeto> I just installed mysql, I type mysql -you root and get "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[03:15] <lukas__> __ryan__: it's not being detected by ubuntu; not even by iwconfig
[03:15] <JeffFromOhio> fabz0r: envy is what got me into this mess lol
[03:15] <fabz0r> okay then
[03:15] <__ryan__> lukas__,  did you get the firmware?
[03:15] <fabz0r> throw it in a ditch
[03:15] <fabz0r> and load up add/remove
[03:15] <grtessman> Can someone please tell me the protocol for this room/moderation?
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: is it in hardware driver manager?.. system/admin/hardware driver
[03:16] <fabz0r> and tpe in nvidia
[03:16] <Kyrin> don't suppose anyone knows a linux app for easily reencoding a video for play on a psp?
[03:16] <JeffFromOhio> I tried using Synaptic to uninstall and reinstall the following packages:
[03:16] <lukas__> IndyGunFreak: no
[03:16] <wers> have anyone here successfully installed lotus notes on ubuntu?
[03:16] <kon_> how come there is no asm/io.h in gutsy?!
[03:16] <lukas__> __ryan__: yes
[03:16] <fabz0r> synaptics even better
[03:16] <jj_P289> Who handles issues with ubuntu's website?
[03:16] <__ryan__> lukas__,  and put it in /lib/firmware/ ?
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> __ryan__: not to interrupt but i thoughtthe firmware was not required w/ 8.04?
[03:16] <unavailable> ok guys my 40-permissions.rules >>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22493/    should i delete line 96 and place line 97 somewhere between lines 66-72?
[03:16] <__ryan__> it is IndyGunFreak
[03:16] <JeffFromOhio> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19
[03:17] <__ryan__> i have a b43 card and i had to
[03:17] <JeffFromOhio> nvidia-glx
[03:17] <JeffFromOhio> But, ,that didn't fix it either
[03:17] <fabz0r> yeah the glx ones is what you want
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> __ryan__: ok, you know better than i do... i just thought i'd read that soemwhere
[03:17] <fabz0r> sudo nvidia setting JeffFromOhio
[03:17] <__ryan__> lukas__,  did you try ndiswrapper? i had that working too before i got the native drivers working
[03:17] <fabz0r> i mean sudo nvidia-settings
[03:17] <CatCheeto> I just installed mysql, I type mysql -you root and get "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[03:17] <fabz0r> and mess with settings
[03:18] <lukas__> __ryan__: i'm downloading the drivers now... ugh drivers are always a problem w/ ubuntu
[03:18] <JeffFromOhio> fabz0r - will that work if the nvidia X-server isn't loading?
[03:18] <jj_P289> Anyone know? ****Who handles issues with ubuntu's website?
[03:18] <JeffFromOhio> See, the problem is, every time my computer boots now, it boots into 640-480 mode
[03:18] <grtessman> Anyone know who handles java with ubuntu?
[03:18] <unavailable> jj_p289 you got a bug?
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> lukas__: its not ubuntu's fault.. if manufacturers would either make a quality driver, or release the source to the community so we could make a quality driver, there'd be no issues at all.
[03:18] <__ryan__> lukas__,  certain ones wont work so i'd downlaod a few :P
[03:18] <hvgotcodes> hey if i register a domain how long will it take for my browser to be able to look it up
[03:18] <lukas__> IndyGunFreak: i'm aware
[03:18] <grtessman> I have a bug
[03:19] <jj_P289> unavailable, well not sure..? who do i direct this to
[03:19] <asmo[B]> how can I share an external drive that I have installed on my ubuntu desktop with my windows laptop?
[03:19] <kon_> CatCheeto, run mysqld-safe --skip-grant-tables and then connect and set a root pw and kill mysqld-safe and invoke-rc.d start mysql
[03:19] <SeaPhor> JeffFromOhio, if you boot from live cd, does it do that?
[03:19] <fabz0r> use ftp
[03:19] <grtessman> asmo, install samba
[03:19] <fabz0r> wait dont thats hard
[03:19] <fabz0r> use ubuntu smb sharing
[03:19] <fabz0r> right click on the drive and lick sharing
[03:20] <unavailable> launchpad
[03:20] <grtessman> that's even better
[03:20] <\kG> is anyone else having problems with apt-get mirrors?
[03:20] <asmo[B]> smb sharing?
[03:20] <asmo[B]> need a package for it?
[03:20] <JeffFromOhio> SeaPhor: well, if I turn the restricted driver off (so that it uses the X-org nvidia server, I get full resolution, but no 3D accelleration
[03:20] <fabz0r> yes you sure do
[03:20] <fabz0r> just download it
[03:20] <__ryan__> lukas__,  does 'sudo modprobe b43' work ?
[03:20] <fabz0r> then restart after its installed
[03:20] <asmo[B]> know the name off hand?
[03:20] <IdleOne> \kG, not here
[03:20] <kon_> can *please* somebody tell me why there is no asm/io.h in gutsy or where i can find information about that if not here?
[03:20] <fabz0r> you might not need to but i like to
[03:20] <unavailable> jj_p289 bugs.launchpad.com
[03:20] <lukas__> __ryan__: no i tried b43 b43legacy and b43xxx
[03:21] <\kG> its saying cannot resolve security.ubuntu.com
[03:21] <JeffFromOhio> Err, is there a text-mode irc client where you can scroll back the chat history? I'm not sure what I'm using but it's very primitive
[03:21] <\kG> over and over
[03:21] <\kG> its saying cannot resolve security.ubuntu.com
[03:21] <JeffFromOhio> I'm missing messages because there's so much traffic lol
[03:21] <Kyrin> JeffFromOhio: irssi and bitchx both should be able to
[03:21] <unavailable> ok guys my 40-permissions.rules >>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22493/    should i delete line 96 and place line 97 somewhere between lines 66-72?
[03:21] <kshah> yeah seriously, chill \kG
[03:21] <JeffFromOhio> brb, gonna try to apt-get irssi I guess
[03:21] <hittingpilot> I need help with my automatic updater, it updates the packages, but still says it still needs to update, can anyone help?
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> JeffFromOhio: what client are you using?
[03:21] <jj_P289> The website forums area it lets me login but then when i go to post a thread it throws me out and asks to relogin? Who handles that?
[03:21] <__ryan__> lukas__, try sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[03:21] <\kG> kshah what?
[03:21] <JeffFromOhio> IndyGunFreak: I just typed irc at the command line