[10:30] <Guest91088> Q DICES'
[10:30] <Guest91088> E.E
[10:30] <ejv> ubuntu got me real good, *real* good, with that md/raid kernel bug.
[10:34] <SpindizZzy> hi all
[10:35] <SpindizZzy> I'm having difficulties connecting to a host behind a router using ssh and dynamic DNS
[10:35] <SpindizZzy> i routed the ports, but no succes...
[10:36] <ejv> is the host setup to listen and accept inbound ssh connections?
[10:36] <gordonjcp> SpindizZzy: can you connect to the host locally?
[10:36] <SpindizZzy> ejv: actually, i wake the host remotely using WOL and try to login
[10:37] <SpindizZzy> gordonjcp, yes, everything works fine locally (WOL & SSH)
[10:37] <SpindizZzy> host runs ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:37] <sssilver> anyone knows how to change the speed of mouse pointer when controlled by the keypad?
[10:38] <SpindizZzy> i have a dynamic dns set up, using the free services from afraid.org
[10:38] <SpindizZzy> and that point to my router's external IP
[10:38] <SpindizZzy> pointS
[10:38] <tsimpson> SpindizZzy: did you forward the external port to your internal IP?
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> i did
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> using the same portnumber
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> i flashed my TP-link router and put dd-wrt on
[10:39] <ejv> no fail2ban / iptables wizardry quietly denying you access?
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> very straightforward
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> ejv: nope
[10:40] <ejv> oh well who needs ssh anyways :p
[10:40] <SpindizZzy> ejv: better suggestions ? :)
[10:40] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated and gives the error "can't have overlapping partitions".  What do I do to fix this?
[10:41] <ejv> can you ssh into your router directly, then ssh into your NAT host?
[10:41] <SpindizZzy> well, i'm trying...
[10:41] <SpindizZzy> haven't figured that out yet ...
[10:42] <ejv> good litmus test to prove that dropbear is working on your ddwrt (i think it's dropbear), at least you could narrow it down to bad internal routing
[10:42] <ejv> setup remote access to listen on some absurd high port and test it
[10:42] <SpindizZzy> eeeeuh
[10:43] <SpindizZzy> that sounds like chinese :)
[10:43] <SpindizZzy> i did see a dropbear entry on my router's web GUI ...
[10:43] <sayres> hi guys.I want install VirtualBox in ubuntu 12.4.when install apear this error:http://dpaste.com/810114/    .what can i do?
[10:45] <SpindizZzy> ejv: what address do i need to use to ssh to my host ?
[10:45] <mithran> hai i cant format my mmc memmory card
[10:45] <SpindizZzy> say my router is at blabla.123.com
[10:45] <tsimpson> sayres: remove virtualbox-guest-additions-iso first, then install virtualbox
[10:45] <mithran> while doing format it shows that an error occured
[10:45] <ejv> sayres: also in addition to what tsimpson said, 4.2 is *really* new; fresh off the block; perhaps try 4.1.$VERSION which is more mature
[10:45] <SpindizZzy> do i ssh blabla.123.com ??
[10:46] <SpindizZzy> or do i ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>??
[10:46] <SpindizZzy> or do i use the hosts name immediately ?
[10:46] <mithran> and if i am trying to formatt with my mobile phone it showes that the is no permission
[10:46] <ejv><EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p PORT
[10:46] <sayres> ejv: mean I cant install 4.2?
[10:46] <ejv> or admin@blah
[10:47] <ejv> i think ddwrt uses 'admin'
[10:47] <SpindizZzy> will test
[10:47] <sayres>  tsimpson:how can remove virtualbox-guest-additions-iso ??I havent virtual box
[10:47] <mithran> I tried with windows it shows that the mmc card is read only
[10:47] <no_gravity> Good Morning! Somehow the quick-search in Thunderbird doesnt work anymore or is not there anymore... is there some new bug?
[10:48] <ejv> sayres: that feeling when people ignore advise
[10:48] <tsimpson> sayres: you already have that package installed, you should "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-guest-additions-iso" first
[10:48] <crazydip> how do i structure debian/rules if to build the package all that is needed is: ./autogen.sh AND make?qq
[10:48] <ejv> sayres: installing 4.2 is possible, first follow tsimpson's instructions :)
[10:49] <tsimpson> crazydip: #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu can help you construct a debian package
[10:49] <crazydip> tsimpson: thanks
[10:49] <sayres> tsimpson:  ejv:ok im trying
[10:50] <skpl> hello, after an update i have no sound, can someone help?
[10:50] <skpl> im using 12.04.1
[10:50] <SpindizZzy> ejv: no route to host
[10:51] <SpindizZzy> ejv: ping router.dns.com works
[10:51] <SpindizZzy> but<EMAIL_ADDRESS>does not
[10:53] <sayres> tsimpson:  ejv:its finaly installed.tnx for helping my friends.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> SpindizZzy  what do you mean by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[10:54] <ejv> i hope he means ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:54] <SpindizZzy> MonkeyDust, when i add a hostname
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> indeed
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ah, ssh
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> tried several
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> ssh doesnt work, giving 'no route to host'
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> but pinging works
[10:54] <skpl> hello, after an update i have no sound, can someone help?
[10:54] <ejv> what happens when you ssh to your router (on the port you specified in the ddwrt console) using your ip, not your dns
[10:55] <SpindizZzy> sec
[10:55] <ejv> dns is so broken i wish someone would kill it, sigh
[10:55] <SpindizZzy> ejv: same thing, 'no route to host'
[10:56] <SpindizZzy> weird...
[10:56] <ejv> do you have a public facing ip?
[10:56] <SpindizZzy> and indeed, verrrry broken...
[10:56] <SpindizZzy> yep
[10:57] <ejv> this router sounds like trouble, im all out of ideas, granted it's crack of dawn...
[10:57] <SpindizZzy> yeah, big trouble :)µ
[10:57] <SpindizZzy> -µ
[10:58] <ejv> do you have any other routers that you can test with?
[10:58] <jackmac> help: when ripping a cd with rythmbox, how are you notified that it is finished
[10:59] <SpindizZzy> i do
[10:59] <SpindizZzy> i guess i will have to try ttah...
[10:59] <ejv> i hate to send you down that path, but im fresh out of ideas, perhaps swap another router into place and see if you get any better routing
[10:59] <SpindizZzy> that
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> yep, back to square one
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> :s
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> oh well, at least we're learning along the way...
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> :)
[11:00] <ejv> maybe someone else will chime in ;)
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> hehe
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> thx anyway :)
[11:02] <AdvoWork> hi there, i'm doing: rsync -vruH /mnt/FILES/ . --exclude .recycle --exclude .recycle --exclude "/mnt/FILES/BACKUPS/old_uploads/" --stats  but  even though ive excluded the old_uploads, it still appears to do them. Any ideas please/
[11:03] <skpl> hello, after an update i have no sound, can someone help?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  and without the quotes?
[11:06] <ztane> ubuntu precise, uptodate system: when i try to log in to unity, the screen goes blank for 2 seconds, then i am returned to the greeter again
[11:06] <pengwu> I am trying to change my passwd but system thinking my new password is too simple, so HOW CAN I DISABLE the checking?
[11:07] <ztane> also how do i get system users to show on unity login box, damnit i cannot even type in a user name
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> ztane  i've had that too, may be a compiz issue, try to log in some other DE -- did you try 2D? -- when you're in the login screen, press ctrl-alt-f1 and install fallback or so
[11:08] <cfhowlett> pengwu: delete your password
[11:08] <ztane> MonkeyDust: 2d woks
[11:09] <ztane> MonkeyDust: *does not work either
[11:09] <ztane> MonkeyDust: i could log in though gdm though
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> ztane  try the ctrl-alt-f1 trick
[11:10] <ztane> why does ubuntu suck so much lately, it seems I cant do anything anymore :(
[11:10] <ztane> "usability" :(
[11:10] <ztane> i think i have to go to gdm anyhow
[11:11] <blackhole_> how to create mozilla shortcut in desktop?
[11:11] <ztane> how do i change to gdm on precise
[11:11] <ThinkT510> ztane: install it
[11:11] <pengwu> I want to disable the passwd complexity checking not delete my password
[11:12] <ztane> ThinkT510: -10 points
[11:12] <ztane> ThinkT510: i have it
[11:12] <ztane> this is what sucks in the ubuntu currently. everyone thinks evveryone is a damned n00b
[11:12] <ztane> been linux user for 15 years
[11:14] <thek__> ztane: the irc climate changed I think. Now ppl show up, ask a question then move on to some other media where they socialize.
[11:15] <ThinkT510> ztane: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:15] <thek__> ztane: makes communication very shallow and harsh. :-/
[11:16] <ztane> true
[11:16] <ztane> what makes me feel sad about ubuntu that i switched to ubuntu on 8.04 because everything seemed to work
[11:16] <ztane> now after 4 years, nothing really works anymore
[11:16] <thek__> "everything" rarely work on "anything" though.
[11:17] <thek__> I guess it wasn't really LTS?
[11:17] <ztane> ThinkT510: thanks :)
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> people complain about the new Redmond OS, too
[11:17] <ThinkT510> ztane: can i get my 10 points back :)
[11:17] <thek__> I've been forced to move on from 10.04LTS to 12.04 LTS. Times change too quickly for me to get stuck on a conservative trail.
[11:18] <ztane> thek__: i have been through all versions and 1204 has been a nightmare :D
[11:18] <thek__> really? Maybe you've been unlucky. I hardly had any issues with 10.04. initially there were some keyboard irritation with stuck keys, but then smooth as a baby bottom.
[11:18] <ztane> I now need to modprobe my wlan driver instead of it working
[11:18] <thek__> I'm also really impressed with 12.04
[11:19] <ztane> right out of box
[11:19] <ztane> like in every other version for 2 years
[11:19] <apg> But, I believe is that everything change very quickly in Ubuntu
[11:19] <thek__> I use Windows XP, 7, OS X Lion, Solaris 11 in my work as well, but I really enjoy Ubuntu 12.04
[11:20] <ztane> before 8.04 I did use gentoo for some years, building everything
[11:20] <thek__> (from a usability perspective that it is.. to limit the scope some)
[11:20] <ztane> 8.04 seemed to wrok quite nicely compared to them
[11:20] <ztane> *it
[11:21] <apg> But I think Unity will get matured as the development process is also still on the way
[11:21] <ztane> but really the experience has been mostly backwards, every update I just need to tinker more to get the same experience as 8.04
[11:21]  * cfhowlett cursed out in private chat: WINNING!
[11:21] <elgumso> hello - looking for some help with resizing a Linux partition without bringing down the OS. Can anyone point me in the right direction please
[11:22] <ztane> elgumso: depends on many things
[11:22] <cfhowlett> 1resize
[11:22] <thek__> apg: i hope so. It shows promise. I love the 'search me' concept. Especially if I could by reasonably sophisticated speech rec to it.
[11:22] <thek__> s/by/buy/
[11:22] <CQ> hello, is ther ea good drawin/note taking app around for use with a tablet? And what's the best UI to use for a tablet?
[11:22] <elgumso> Expanding it. Virtual disk. I've increased it in ESX and need to fill it up but can't shutdown the system
[11:22] <ztane> elgumso: but it depends on how you parititioned your disk
[11:22] <datruth> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 and I am having issues controlling the brightness of my screen it my hotkeys seem to work during boot (grub) and shutdown window but after Kubuntu loads I can no longer control the brightness can someone help with this?
[11:22] <ztane> elgumso: inside the box, do you use lvm or not?
[11:23] <ztane> elgumso: if your partition is in the middle, you are mostly out of luck
[11:23] <apg> Cq, are you running ubuntu on a tablet?
[11:23] <elgumso> it's sda1. sda2 extended sda5 swap (for some reason)
[11:23] <CQ> apg yes... lenovo x61
[11:23] <ztane> elgumso: no luck then :D
[11:23] <ztane> elgumso: should always put lvm inside
[11:24] <thek__> Btw, anyone know of a driver issue with SATA solid-drives which relates to the inability to mount the disk in Virtualbox? This issue is a cloud on a sunny day.
[11:24] <elgumso> damn. Ok I'll read into that for next time. Is lvm done at install?
[11:24] <ztane> elgumso: if you had it as the last partition, you could expand it with fdisk; with lvm you could add separate disks instead of growing an existing one, too
[11:25] <ztane> elgumso: you can actually do it afterwards too, but a bit tinkering
[11:25] <ztane> elgumso: "a bit"
[11:26] <ztane> elgumso: also I suggest for these questions you could go to ubuntu-server ;)
[11:26] <elgumso> ok sweet. thanks very much for your help. Looks like in this case I'll have to rebuild the system then just clone the data.
[11:26] <elgumso> ah ok cool
[11:26] <elgumso> thanks again, much appreciated
[11:26] <datruth> ztane: is lvm required or recommended for Ubuntu install?
[11:26] <ztane> elgumso: hmm acutally if you did not use any swap
[11:27] <datruth> ztane: is there away to check if I currently use lvm?
[11:27] <ztane> datruth: no, it depends if you want to add disk space to existing partitions...
[11:27] <ztane> datruth: most probably you arent
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> datruth  required, no -- recommended... depends on how you use ubuntu
[11:27] <ztane> elgumso: ... if you didnt use any swap, or the extended, you could turn off swap and increase the partition 1,
[11:28] <ztane> elgumso: then add another disk for swap
[11:28] <datruth> ztane: my disk's are pretty much partitioned out into one big drive and I use virtualbox to seperate the space that I need
[11:28] <elgumso> WIN
[11:28] <arian_> HEllo
[11:28] <elgumso> I could totally do that! Nice one man! That'll be perfect
[11:28] <Guest82855> hello
[11:29] <Guest82855> Is here any body?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest82855  it works, you're in
[11:29] <datruth> time to google more for my brightness issue
[11:29] <elgumso> ztane: thanks bud. sorted!
[11:29] <l3d> was wondering what would I have to do if I would like to have a file or folder sync between two ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:30] <Guest82855> adfadfsd نشیسب
[11:30] <Guest82855> hello I have a
[11:30] <Guest82855> hello i made a bash file and i want to sheuld that to update my system by at what can i do ?
[11:31] <datruth> Guest68405: that question makes no sense.
[11:32] <rocket_hamster> I think hes looking for cron
[11:32] <ztane> elgumso: and consider using lvm on any new installations ;)
[11:32] <egoitz> Hi, I'm running 12.04 precise and have some problems with python module
[11:32] <egoitz> http://pastebin.com/rdaCQiZf
[11:32] <egoitz> the XenSMDriver is in file... http://pastebin.com/hEzGATmC
[11:33] <egoitz> how could I manage the utils.py to find the other module?
[11:33] <egoitz> http://pastebin.com/5cP5wtic
[11:33] <egoitz> this is the directory structure
[11:33] <elgumso> ztane: Hehe I think especially in my VM's it's proabably a good idea
[11:33] <ztane> elgumso: well lvm is even better on physical harddisks, can move from one disk to another on the fly effortlessly!
[11:34] <arian__> WHAT CAN I DO TO USE CRON WITH THAT?
[11:34] <datruth> time to reboot and see if this fix works
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> arian__  caps
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !shout|arian__:
[11:34] <datruth> arian__: use cron with what?
[11:34] <arian__> ok I have problem with my system :| sorry
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> egoitz  ask in #python, over 900 people there
[11:35] <ztane> hmmm
[11:35] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:35] <egoitz> I don't have now the pass of my freenode user is there any python channel you're able to ask without registering?
[11:36] <ztane> ok I have system user hudson, and trying to log in to unity with it from GDM, the login window just stops responding after I enter password, nothing happens except the busy cursor for 20 minutes now :/
[11:36] <ztane> any ideas
[11:37] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:37] <Guest37094> sorry , I am using the kde on ubuntu can you say to me where is the cron setting on kde ?? (I saw that before on kde)
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest37094  try crontab -e       (that's e for edit)
[11:38] <Guest37094> MonkeyDust, does cron have any gui to use with that?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> dunno
[11:39] <geirha> Guest37094: there is a gui for gnome (gnome-scheduler or something). Try searching the software center for a kde equivalent
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> there's kcron, i guess
[11:41] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:42] <Guest37094> excuse I founded this , but i don't know what is it name. http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeadmin/kcron/index.html
[11:42] <rabbi1> hi, i am trying to connect reliance 'zte ac 2736' datacard, but unable to connect, tried wvdial as well, but no luck. The 'option' for the device under 'network settings' is disabled. how can solve this ?
[11:43] <Guest37094> as a matter of fact I don't have that on my kde.
[11:43] <geirha> Guest37094: try installing the package named kcron
[11:43] <Guest37094> geirha, installed that . but added nothing to my softwares .
[11:44] <EweR> How to disable root on 12.04.. So that I used su sudo instead? On google I found only how to enable root, but not how to disable
[11:44] <bazhang> EweR, on a normal install? a vpn? or what
[11:44] <EweR> bazhang, vpn
[11:45] <bazhang> normal installs if's not not enabled by default
[11:45] <bazhang> err it's
[11:46] <geirha> !root | EweR
[11:46] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:46] <geirha> EweR: The RootSudo page explains how to disable it again, among other things
[11:46] <EweR> geirha, ok ty
[11:46] <Guest37094> geirha, I installed the kcron but it didn't add software
[11:46] <geirha> Guest37094: I'm not familiar with kde, so I have no idea where it should appear.
[11:47] <Guest37094> geirha, thank you
[11:47] <geirha> Guest37094: You could try  Alt+F2, and type in kcron
[11:49] <bazhang> Guest37094, what about gnome-schedule
[11:49] <bazhang> !info gnome-schedule | Guest37094
[11:49] <rabbi1> hi, i am trying to connect reliance 'zte ac 2736' datacard, but unable to connect, tried wvdial as well, but no luck. The 'option' for the device under 'network settings' is disabled. how can solve this ?
[11:50] <Kingsy> what is wrong with this --> ar -cvf --exclude="var" --exclude="media/import" --exclude="media/catalog/product/cache" backup.tar.gz public_html/ <-- it seems to create a file actually called "--exclude="var"" lol
[11:51] <geirha> Kingsy: because the word after -f is what it takes as filename
[11:51] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:51] <Kingsy> geirha: so it should be tar -cv --exclude="var" --exclude="media/import" --exclude="media/catalog/product/cache" -f backup.tar.gz public_html/   ?
[11:52] <geirha> Kingsy: sure, that should do something closer to what you expect ;)
[11:52] <Kingsy> geirha: also the paths in --exclude="" they are all relative to public_html.. is that correct?
[11:53] <geirha> Kingsy: Off hand, I don't remember. I'd have to check man tar
[11:53] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[11:55] <datruth> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 and I am having issues controlling the brightness of my screen it my hotkeys seem to work during boot (grub) and shutdown window but after Kubuntu loads I can no longer control the brightness can someone help with this?
[11:55] <Kingsy> geirha: thanks
[11:55] <arian__> geirha: I restarted my pc but not added any programms
[11:55] <dr_willis> datruth:  as a test. go to the consoles and see if they work.
[11:56] <arian__> I have it now
[11:56] <datruth> dr_willis: the keys work during boot up but after the o/s loads they no longer work.
[11:56] <arian__> yes , thx everbody , thx geirha
[11:56] <blackhole_> elow
[11:56] <datruth> dr_willis: also I've tried passing switches to grub and still that doesn't work.
[11:57] <blackhole_> k
[11:59] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[12:00] <starius> http://vk.com/wall-33241_226238
[12:01] <dr_willis> mikkel:  what video chipset? and how is it connected
[12:01] <mikkel> intel hd graphics 3000
[12:01] <bazhang> starius, why post that here
[12:02] <mikkel> it is connected through VGA
[12:02] <starius> i have not found channel for ubuntu translators
[12:03] <datruth> hrmm ok
[12:05] <theadmin> starius: All Ubuntu translations are mantained through Launchpad.
[12:05] <starius> ok, I'll take this into account
[12:06] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector. I have intel hd graphics 3000 connected in VGA. can anyone help?
[12:08] <l1ght> oh the lulz.
[12:08] <l1ght> Morning
[12:08] <cfhowlett> l1ght: not in China...
[12:09] <cfhowlett> l1ght: greetings
[12:09] <l1ght> cfhowlett: It's always morning on the interwebz.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> l1ght: ... OK
[12:10] <apg> I have a problem,  when I connect my laptop to a projector via VGA cable, It cannot be set to be twin-view, so that what is shown on my screen also be on the projector. I have set it to be twin-view from nvidia-seetings. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and Nvidia Geforce 540 M.
[12:12] <Jacruth> Ey guys, I'm trying to install  libccid pcscd, but headers are not being send!
[12:12] <bazhang> Jacruth, whats the reason for doing so
[12:13] <Guest87146> Hi Guys, I have some questions about boot locations and was wondering if someone better versed in Linux/Ubuntu could help me out, if so if you could pm me that would be great
[12:14] <bazhang> Guest87146, just ask here
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Guest87146
[12:14] <Jacruth> bazhang, I'm trying to use a identification card and I need libccid and that.
[12:14] <Jacruth> bazhang, is there any way to force download the headers?
[12:14] <Guest87146> ok
[12:15] <l3d> was wondering what would I have to do if I would like to have a file or folder sync between two ubuntu 12.04 ?   update thanks  anyway but i found what i was looking for unison worked just fine thanks to google
[12:16] <Guest87146> I would like to know how I can remotely boot ubuntu from a network drive, as the system I'd like to run ubuntu on does not have a HDD.
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !PXE|Guest87146:
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Guest87146: pxe networking booting is one solution
[12:18] <Guest87146> yes, I can use PXE to install it, but how to I 'run' it remotely, effectly using system A's HDD and system B's CPU,RAM, etc.
[12:18] <dr_willis> you would have to setup nfs shares or other shares..
[12:19] <dr_willis> as for cpu/ram - that would be more where you boot up a 'thin client' that just displays  from the server
[12:19] <dr_willis> thinclient, x-terminal, whats other terms? It used tobe common place ages ago.. not so much these days
[12:22] <Guest87146> the whole reason why im trying to do this is because I have about 50 servers with no HDDs and would like to run Xen XCP on them (you can run it from ubuntu, thats why I am asking here) and would like to network boot them without having to put HDDs in all of them
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !LTSP
[12:23] <dr_willis> basically netbooting a minimal image that has X and  then does xdmcp connection to the server. ;) I belive.. ive not used it in years
[12:24] <rezaev> hello/
[12:24] <rezaev> im from russia\
[12:24] <rezaev> i need help
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !ru|rezaev:
[12:24] <lnxslck> rezaev, need a green card ? lol
[12:25] <CyBz> lol
[12:25] <blackhole> do i have to install antivirus for ubuntu 12.04?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !antivirus|blackhole:
[12:26] <nicko_> hello, I need a suggestion
[12:26] <blackhole> ubottu, ok thanks how about firewall?
[12:26] <dr_willis> blackhole:  if you want to scan windows files for windows viruses.. you can..
[12:27] <dr_willis> !firewall
[12:27] <nicko_> is it better to download the beta 2 rather than reinstalling the beta 1 that I have and just do a upgrade?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|nicko_:
[12:27] <dr_willis> nicko_:  id say redownload the latest.. because you will just download ALL theupdates anyway. and see #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <blackhole> thanks u all
[12:29] <test1> why is `apt-get changelog ${packagename}` not called by apt-cache, since that is the apt command to extract information and apt-get is to change/remove/install packages
[12:31] <jrib> test1: apt-get changelog apt, search for "changelog", find reference to bug #526990 (debian), see discussion?  Maybe you can propose it's moved to apt-cache, I don't know
[12:31] <jrib> no ubottu
[12:31] <jrib> debian #526990
[12:32] <test1> jrib: thanks
[12:32] <blackhole> is there any software for router monitoring tools? using Ubuntu?
[12:33] <dr_willis> router monitoring tools - is a little broad. there are Log display/watcher tools to  see whats going on with the router if it supports that.. err.. smnp? logging standard.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> blackhole: iftop, iptraff
[12:33] <jrib> test1: one reason may be that the changelogs aren't actually cached, so it isn't really using apt-"cache"
[12:34] <blackhole> cfhowlett, is that on software center?
[12:34] <test1> jrib: could be, but then the description of apt-cache and apt-get should be redefined. at this point it looks inconsistent.
[12:34] <dr_willis> !info iftop
[12:34] <jrib> test1: yep, probably worth a comment on that bug just to get a discussion started about it
[12:35] <test1> jrib: will do this weekend
[12:35] <cfhowlett> blackhole: bad intel.  iiptraff is linux but not in any ubuntu repo.  Sorry.
[12:35] <leotr> can i modify ubuntu installer which automatically configures disk layout (e.g. boot loader - 1. recovery partition (continues installation to 2) - 2. system parition (modifiable, gets erased when booting from 1st partition) - 3. data partition (modifiable, untouched when booting from 1st partition)
[12:36] <blackhole> cfhowlett, ah... ok
[12:36] <cfhowlett> blackhole: see article  http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/11/25/how-to-monitor-traffic-at-cisco-router-using-linux-netflow/
[12:36] <blackhole> i learn a lot w/u guys thanks...
[12:36] <dr_willis> leotr:  you mean you want to make your own cd that  auto partions differntly?
[12:36] <Focus30> Ciao a tutti
[12:37] <Focus30> !list
[12:37] <dr_willis> the list zombies are awake. ;)
[12:38] <dr_willis> iftop shows some neat info.... not sure i understand why im seeing connections to some sites. ;)
[12:39] <basz> hi can someone please explain to me conf.d ? all files in here are automaticly read? does 00-* property are overwritten by later ones? for example 90-*
[12:39] <dr_willis> www.layer8-problem.org        seems... a weird name
[12:39] <basz> or the other way around?
[12:39] <dr_willis> basz:  whats the exact path/filename?  im not clear on which conf files you mean
[12:39] <Guest87146> thanks for the help guys, im sure ill be back with more questions about LTSP lol
[12:39] <basz> i'm talking about /etc/dovecot/conf.d
[12:40] <basz> but i'm guessing this is a general thing (convention)
[12:40] <dr_willis> basz:  how i normally think it works. the various parts 'in order' basically get used as the whole config file.
[12:40] <dr_willis> sort of 'merged' in order to become the  main config file.
[12:41] <basz> I have some older dovecot conf files that I would like to consolidate them into conf.d
[12:41] <dr_willis> numbers are not always used.. for example in -> /etc/bash_completion.d/
[12:42] <dr_willis> or they get 'ran' in order to generate the config file - like in  grub.d  --> /etc/grub.d
[12:45] <basz> hmm my dovecot.conf does not contain '!include conf.d/*.conf' so apparently those config files aren't used anyways
[12:45] <basz> all conf is in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[12:46] <basz> no magic going on here… i like that
[12:47] <jrib> the conf.d directories are nice if other packages need to add things to the configuration; they can just drop a file in the appropriate directory
[12:47] <ovnicraft> hello i am configuring my interfaces i got 2 so this is my interfaces file https://gist.github.com/3839643
[12:48] <ovnicraft> i got an error when ifup eth1
[12:48] <ovnicraft> ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[12:48] <ovnicraft> why this ?
[12:49] <llutz_> ovnicraft: check the line after "auto eth1"
[12:49] <llutz_> ovnicraft: it has to be "iface eth1...." not iface eth0
[12:49] <mechteam> is it ok to distribute Remastered ubuntu on my website ?
[12:50] <ovnicraft> llutz_: thx
[12:50] <basz> jeesh,.. are .pem files interchanble to .crt files? (lets try that)
[12:50] <ovnicraft> stupid error
[12:50] <llutz_> ovnicraft: typical copy/paste error :)
[12:50] <cfhowlett> mechteam: see the licensing details, but generally OK
[12:50] <ovnicraft> yes
[12:51] <mechteam> thanks cfhowlett ovnicraft
[12:51] <ovnicraft> llutz_: ok si i got another issue (not related) can't ping public IP
[12:51] <ninwa> Anyone know a good app that integrates Google Voice into my desktop at all, or even just a nice standalone app would be fine too.
[12:51] <llutz_> ovnicraft: your public ip from inside LAN?
[12:51] <ninwa> I'm particularly interested in the SMS aspect of it.
[12:52] <ninwa> I found this, but it's no longer being developed: http://rstoeber.com/apps/Google_Voice_Utility.html
[12:52] <ovnicraft> llutz_: not, it is connected directly to modem
[12:52] <basz> yep they are...
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> ninwa  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/add-google-voice-alerts-to-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu
[12:53] <ninwa> MonkeyDust, perfect :]
[12:53] <ninwa> Thank you
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> ninwa  it's PPA so don't expect much support if anything goes wrong
[12:54] <ninwa> It is a bit old.
[12:54] <Sagi> there is no such thing as a RC-release for 12.10, right?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> ninwa  i guess that's the closest you can get
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Sagi  it's called beta
[12:55] <ovnicraft> llutz_: to be more clear, modem is connected to cisco, and my ubuntu is connected to cisco switch
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|Sagi:
[12:55] <Sagi> I have really new hardware in my laptop and currently run 12.04. Most of the things work, but I'm kinda hoping for better luck with linux 3.5.X
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> Sagi  3 weeks to go
[12:56] <Sagi> though hesitant to try something which has seen far less exposure to users :-)
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> or less
[12:56] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to merge two ntfs partition to single
[12:56] <dylanger> Hey Guys!
[12:57] <cfhowlett> dylanger: greetings
[12:57] <iceroot> dhanasekaran: without losing data from one partition?
[12:57] <mechteam> dhanasekaran you can try gparted
[12:57] <Sagi> cfhowlett: thanks, I'll resume there
[12:57] <fgh> !broadcom
[12:58] <llutz_> ovnicraft: is your modem configured to ignore icmp-requests? or does your ISP filter this?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  i did it with gparted, without dataloss, but it took a very long time
[12:59] <ovnicraft> llutz_: my modem don't do that, i got another ip configured and i can ping it
[12:59] <llutz_> ovnicraft: your public IP is 190.95..... right? it doesn't answer pings
[12:59] <dhanasekaran> MonkeyDust, with option please guide me, I have important data is here
[12:59] <BluesKaj> dhanasekaran, you'll have to back up the data from probly the first partiton , and then use gparted live /media to expand the remaining partition into the data-less one , there's really no other way and it can take a while
[13:00] <ovnicraft> llutz_: 186.46...
[13:00] <ninwa> MonkeyDust, yeah appears the ppa is no longer active, ill have to use this as an excuse to try out Golang's networking libs :P
[13:00] <BluesKaj> dhanasekaran, correction back up the data from probly the second partiton
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  the safest way, is by making a backup, delete the partition, merge them and put the data back
[13:10] <pascal_> allo jvoudra dlaide ec mon client
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[13:10] <pascal_> MonkeyDust: thanks
[13:11] <Martell> !th
[13:13] <mouse> how can I change a partition's ending sector?
[13:13] <Industrial> On ubuntu server, how do I give a user access to run a port on port 80? right now I'm getting EACCESS
[13:13] <Industrial> run a server on port 80*
[13:14] <jrib> Industrial: why do you want to do that?  What server?
[13:14] <Rahoul> you could set up apache to allow them to run a site from their own personal folder
[13:14] <Industrial> my own NodeJS server
[13:15] <llutz_> !info authbind | Industrial
[13:15] <Industrial> thanks
[13:17] <_XMENDES> hi guys. how to decrease the size of the side panel? at 11:10?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> _XMENDES  try MyUnity
[13:18] <_XMENDES> i have to install this?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> _XMENDES  don't know if it's in the 11.10 repos, you may need a ppa
[13:19] <_XMENDES> i found it on ubuntu program central.
[13:20] <enyc> Hrrm...  How to get scripts to run at graphical login before processes started using unity?  I used to use  .xinitrc  which did, for example,  export some environment variables that applied to all programs started via gnome,  but that doesn't seem to be having any effect on 12.04/unity...    NB: I do NOT want to just 'launch' another program after logged-in, but rather influence the login.
[13:20] <frankblax> Ubuntu 12 w/ LTSP: when several users try to print, the printer icon disappears from printing dialog (gedit)
[13:21] <mouse> how do I use fdisk to change a partition's ending sector?
[13:21] <_XMENDES> another question, how to change the buttons to maximize the window, to the right side?
[13:21] <enyc> mouse: you can use fdisk to resize a partition by recreating it, but this DOES not affect the filesystem in it, that you would then need to recreate !! backup first etc...
[13:21] <_XMENDES> unity again (11:10)
[13:21] <enyc> mouse: may be better to just use   gparted  ?
[13:22] <mouse> enyc, The problem is that gparted says there's overlapping partitions and I can't install 12.04.1 until I fix that.
[13:22] <kyubotsu> mouse: the ending sector is directly proportional to the partition size. therefore, to change the ending sector means changing the partition size
[13:23] <_XMENDES> another question, how to change the buttons to maximize the window, to the right side?
[13:23] <enyc> mouse: hrrm...  can you pastebin  the output of 'sudo fdisk -luc'  and show us?
[13:23] <mouse> kyubotsu, So I can't just change the ending sector from 34420 to 34419?
[13:23] <enyc> mouse: you may be able to by manually hexediting the sector tbh  ive done such things
[13:24] <daanish> How do I run gnome applets in fluxbox? I know nm-applet for network, but what about sound and battery?
[13:24] <enyc> mouse: hrrm...  can you pastebin  the output of 'sudo fdisk -luc'  so i can doublecheck the facts and see for myself?
[13:25] <mouse> enyc, http://pastebin.com/pXBPkM6b
[13:27] <alex__> hi all~
[13:27] <cfhowlett> alex__: greetings
[13:27] <kyubotsu> mouse: didn't you say you had winXP in there before? i see an ntfs partition though..
[13:27] <enyc> mouse: weird...  notice there is a weird error about 'ommitting empty partition'
[13:28] <enyc> mouse: depneding what you want to achieve we may be able to delete/recreate many partitions etc.. .  are you interested in wiping everything but the NTFS at the top? etc.
[13:28] <mouse> kyubotsu, I'm pretty sure winxp can read ntfs.  I've already booted into it a few times.
[13:28] <frankblax> How I can uninstall quota? Just apt-get remove quota quotatool? Tnks
[13:29] <enyc> mouse: the linux swap partition is primary partition and yet defined as part of the  extended!
[13:29] <mouse> enyc, I want to install ubuntu 12.04.1 to sda5 and keep everything else.
[13:29] <mouse> enyc, That's weird.  the swap is supposed to be in the extended.
[13:30] <enyc> mouse: ok  first off...   sudo fdisk -uc /dev/sda    then do 'p' and chcek the list again
[13:30] <enyc> mouse: we can try to delete the swap and it ought to be able to create a new one on reinstall
[13:30] <enyc> mouse: does the list still have 'sda3' as the swap?
[13:31] <mouse> enyc, Yeah it does.
[13:31] <enyc> mouse: ok in which case 'd' then select '3'  then do 'p' to list again
[13:32] <enyc> mouse: does it now have everything happily except for swap now not listed at all?
[13:32] <mouse> enyc, It's gone.
[13:32] <enyc> mouse: excellent, in which case 'w' to write out
[13:33] <mouse> enyc, should I be doing that when I'm not in a live session?
[13:33] <enyc> mouse: it doesn't matter.  the worse that will happen is you will have to reboot to make the kernel forget the old swap
[13:34] <enyc> mouse: "cat /proc/swaps" -- do you have the faulty-partitioned-swap still mounted now?
[13:35] <mouse> enyc, Yeah it's still mounted.
[13:35] <drupin> how can i get terminal to  transperent apperance mode.. i changed the colors and its not able to get back to default..
[13:35] <enyc> mouse: ok the simplest thing to do  is reboot  and then get it to create install partitions etc..  with any luck it will then create an extended partition for swap properly
[13:35] <mouse> enyc, Also this happened.  Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[13:35] <mouse> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[13:35] <mouse> The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at
[13:35] <mouse> the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)
[13:35] <mouse> Syncing disks.
[13:35] <FloodBot1> mouse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <kyubotsu> perhaps it'd be easier if you did this from a live cd
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> drupin  edit, profiles, or profile preferences
[13:36] <enyc> mouse: yes, that error happened, because the swap was still mounted, so the kernel refuses to re-think the partittion table which is incompatible with what it knows
[13:36] <drupin> MonkeyDust: i did no effect
[13:36] <enyc> mouse: just boot off the install cd and gparted, create new extended swap partition
[13:36] <enyc> mouse: and install away, with any luck
[13:37] <drupin> i like the little bit transperent one... but its full black MonkeyDust
[13:37] <mouse> enyc, So the swap partition was the problem the whole time?  I thought sda5 and sda6 were sharing the same ending and starting sector.
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> drupin  well, that's where you have to look
[13:37] <enyc> mouse: alternatively, you can 'sudo swapoff -a' and 'sudo partprobe'  may get you somewhere
[13:37] <enyc> mouse: looks like it
[13:37] <TimothyA> is there an easy way to generate a list of file checksums, and use that list to verify wether or not everything got copied over correctly?
[13:37] <enyc> mouse: certainly the swap partitian was setup as a primary partition (1-4) yet was defined within the space of the extended-partition-container
[13:38] <drupin> MonkeyDust: the transparent slider is not effecting
[13:38] <llutz_> !info tripwire | TimothyA
[13:38] <mouse> enyc, Any idea how that could of happened?
[13:38] <enyc> mouse: no =)
[13:38] <enyc> mouse:  depends on the history of your partitioning etc etc
[13:39] <TimothyA> llutz_: I'll check in a moment if it's what I am looking for. currently on the phone with dediserve AGAIN
[13:39] <enyc> mouse: try 'sudo swapoff -a' and 'sudo partprobe'  and  start gparted now, can you create a new extended swap partition now?
[13:39] <mouse> enyc, Sweet gparted can now read /dev/sda!
[13:39] <enyc> mouse: yes but you DO NOT want to create new filessytems over a space where the kernel still has old-swap mounted
[13:40] <mouse> enyc, What do you mean?
[13:40] <enyc> mouse: if you  cat /proc/swaps   is it still mounted?
[13:40] <kyubotsu> enyc: i would simply clear all the ext4 and swap partitions, and fresh isntall in the freed space. simple
[13:40] <mouse> enyc, yes
[13:40] <_XMENDES> another question, how to change the buttons to maximize the window, to the right side?
[13:40] <enyc> kyubotsu: yes but he wants to keep one of the ext4's
[13:40] <enyc> mouse: yes then don't create new stuff yet
[13:41] <enyc> mouse: beacuse the kernel will still write stuff there,  if you create new swap headers  they may get overwritten etc etc
[13:41] <mouse> enyc, even if I boot off the livecd first?
[13:41] <enyc> mouse: no, then you should be alright in that case
[13:41] <kyubotsu> enyc: he can do that after the install anyway.. unless he got a ton of stuff in it.. /shrugs
[13:41] <shabnam> hi
[13:41] <enyc> kyubotsu: do ??that??  what do you maen?
[13:42] <shabnam> i installed ubuntu 12.10 and i now cant run windows 8
[13:42] <enyc> mouse:   you COULD try this now --   'sudo swapoff -a',  check   'cat /proc/swaps'  is now empty  and 'sudo partprobe',  then you should be safe to create new swap right away ... be interested to know how that goes
[13:42] <shabnam> pls help me
[13:42] <kyubotsu> enyc: create a separate partition after the fresh install; am just wondering why he NEEDS that other ext4 intact
[13:42] <enyc> shabnam: boot menu at startup?  don't you get a menu appear where you can press down key to select the windwos boot?
[13:42] <shabnam> what i will do?
[13:42] <enyc> kyubotsu: maybe he has data on it? ;-)
[13:43] <enyc> shabnam: when you start up,  there should be a GRUB screen where you get a list of operating systems to start
[13:43] <cherva> can someone tell me a program to exchange mail from pop3 to maildir
[13:43] <enyc> cherva: hummmmmmmmm manually as a one-off or some kind of automatic ?
[13:43] <shabnam> i get grub but when i use windows 8 in grub menu this error is showed
[13:44] <llutz_> cherva: pop3 is a protocol, maildir a mail storage-format
[13:44] <cherva> enyc: automatic
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: do you already have  mail-delivery by a mail-transfer-agent  to that maildir?
[13:44] <cherva> llutz_: from email accaunt with pop3 to my local mail server witch has maildir format
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: but you just want  another  pop3 account delivered into the same maildir too?
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: ok so your local mail server does work ?
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: and does accept SMTP locally?
[13:45] <cherva> enyc:  it accepts
[13:45] <enyc> cherva: in which case 'fetchmail' is designed to do what you describe.  it downloads from pop3 server and then puts into local mail-queue.
[13:45] <mouse> enyc, I created a new swap space using gparted and cat /proc/swaps shows it's mounted.
[13:45] <enyc> cherva: which can then, of course, deliver to maildir.
[13:45] <cherva> enyc: thanks  :)
[13:45] <enyc> mouse: argh!!
[13:45] <enyc> mouse: you should have unmounted the old swap first!?!?!!?!?
[13:45] <mouse> enyc, I did remember?
[13:46] <enyc> mouse: are you sure  you managed to 'swapoff -a' and CHECK it WAS NOT MOUNTED  before you created new ones?
[13:46] <mouse> enyc, Yeah the table was empty.
[13:46] <enyc> mouse: aah ok.  and what did you do to mount new one?
[13:46] <shabnam> error: device format "idm/********" invalid must be (fIH) dn
[13:47] <mouse> enyc, I just used gparted's swapon.
[13:47] <enyc> mouse: ok  you missed that part out in your explanation
[13:47] <shabnam> pls help me i need to run windows 8 to night
[13:47] <enyc> mouse: now that probably won't be listed  in your  /etc/fstab  for automatic
[13:47] <mouse> enyc, The new swap space is sda7 instead of sda3 now.
[13:47] <enyc> mouse: but if you reinstall its' all quite irrelevant
[13:48] <enyc> shabnam: i can t say i've seen that error... looking it up...
[13:48] <smellySally> is software for pdf annotations available on ubuntu?
[13:48] <shabnam> omg i am student i need to run windows
[13:48] <shabnam> and i know cant run windows
[13:48] <shabnam> i installed ubuntu 12.10 beta2
[13:48] <enyc> shabnam: heheh could of coures recover image backup  or install windows in a virtual machine.  not sure.
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: so 12.10 beta  buggy and breaks it?
[13:49] <shabnam> i am new in ubuntu family
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: try installing 12.04.1 lts instead
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: and see if it creates working grub2 menu
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: beta-testing should be discussed in #ubuntu+1  channel instead
[13:49] <llutz_> !12.10 | shabnam its a still beta and not supported here.
[13:49] <shabnam> enyc
[13:50] <shabnam> ok
[13:50] <shabnam> how can i restore windows 8
[13:50] <enyc> smellySally: i've seen that before.. hrrm
[13:50] <enyc> shabnam: well it may just be the boot menu is broken.
[13:50] <enyc> shabnam: TRY FIRST  install 12.04.1 LTS instead, and see if that creates a working boot menu
[13:50] <shabnam> how can i update the grub
[13:50] <enyc> shabnam: TRY FIRST  install 12.04.1 LTS instead, and see if that creates a working GRUB menu <<<<<--------------
[13:51] <shabnam> what is update grub code in terminal
[13:51] <nvzn> hey, i'm running precise and it seems to be quite sluggish at times
[13:51] <enyc> shabnam: the problem is installing different version of the grub scripts that might actually work
[13:51] <nvzn> doesn't respond to keyboard so well
[13:51] <Ulfr> Hello all, is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Server issues?
[13:51] <mouse> enyc, Thank you for your help!  I'm going to upgrade to 12.04.1 now.
[13:51] <llutz_>  #ubuntu-server Ulfr
[13:51] <jrib> Ulfr: here is ok.  But #ubuntu-server also exists
[13:52] <nvzn> kindof locks up for a few seconds
[13:52] <enyc> mouse: good luck, thats created lots of furor hehe
[13:52] <enyc> shabnam: did you use a boot-cd to install from etc.?
[13:52] <nvzn> i can't quite put my finger on what it is
[13:52] <nvzn> i check the running processes, all seems normal
[13:52] <mouse> enyc, Furor?
[13:52] <Ulfr> I just switched my frontend webservers from CentOS to Ubuntu because of an issue with PCRE, but now my HAProxy starts to slow down and bog down the site and I haven't the foggiest why
[13:52] <enyc> shabnam: grub2 is compiled via a pile of scripts, OS-finder tool, etc.   if the version in 12.10  is being silly, try 12.04.1 ?
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: controversy, problems, complaints.
[13:53] <nvzn> any ideas?
[13:53] <visored> if the left side bar is bugged, how can it be reloaded without restarting?
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: unity-issues.  general buginess under the hood.
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: some love same hate
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: especially experienced unix users dont like the  beginess when you do too much
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: i know many sticking with 10.04 lts or using debian etc.
[13:54] <nvzn> 10.04 was better for me too
[13:54] <mouse> enyc, Ah I see.  This whole day hasn't really been a walk in the park for me either.  I'll be installing gnome-panel to get back to gnome2 cause there's no way I'm using unity.
[13:54] <enyc> yes well it seems ubuntu is worknig to forge out a lot of new stuffs  but  not lots of bug-squashing under the hood  like debian rc-bugs-squashing
[13:55] <shabnam> you say i will instal ubuntu 12.04
[13:55] <enyc> mouse: yes or give up and use  mint-13 with its' gnome-2-derivative,  or debian wheezy7.0 and install the xfce packages ;-)
[13:55] <shabnam> mint or ubunut
[13:55] <shabnam> ubuntu
[13:55] <enyc> shabnam: yes, do that, and it will use 12.04.1 's stuff to create a new grub2 menu,  with any luck that will fix it
[13:55] <enyc> shabnam: or mint-13  which is also based on 12.04  it doesn't really matter
[13:56] <enyc> shabnam: but NOT the BETA-TESTING 12.10 !
[13:56] <mouse> enyc, Which one?  cinnamon or mate?
[13:56] <shabnam> ok
[13:56] <shabnam> tnx
[13:56] <enyc> shabnam: if it doesn't work,  use the restore-cd mechanism from your computer manufacturer
[13:56] <shabnam> if i know restore windows 8 boot menu my system may not damage?
[13:56] <shabnam> be
[13:57] <FusionX> is it possible to upload a file from just command line? I only have shell access to the server I want to upload the file from.
[13:57] <enyc> mouse: MATE seems to be the gnome-2-derivative that just behaves mostly
[13:58] <enyc> shabnam: this is all software stuffs, not system hardware
[13:58] <jrib> FusionX: scp or sftp
[13:58] <enyc> FusionX: yes, you can use  scp or sftp   to copy to/from the same place you ssh to
[13:58] <shabnam> very tnx to enyc
[13:58] <shabnam> bye
[13:58] <FusionX> i'll look into that, thanks enyc
[13:58] <shabnam> have a good night
[13:59] <FusionX> enyc: it wouldn't compromise the server, right?
[13:59] <FusionX> and I can't understand how to use it to transfer files to my system.
[14:00] <daanish> what's the name of the gnome screenshot tool, and how do I invoke it from command line?
[14:00] <enyc> FusionX: what do you mean 'compromise'  are you sending/receieving dodgy files ? etc.
[14:00] <i7c> FusionX: sshfs
[14:01] <FusionX> enyc: nope, it's a minecraft world save. nvm though, I was confused for a sec.
[14:01] <enyc> FusionX: you can  'scp  username@servername:remotefile  localfile'  etc.
[14:02] <FusionX> i7c: ah, got it, this one seems easier. thanks
[14:02] <i7c> np
[14:02] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:02] <enyc> FusionX: its worth going past the ''i will only deal with things that seem easy'' barrier you get further that way.  expand your mind. ;-).
[14:03] <FusionX> enyc: I'm all open for new stuff :)
[14:03] <mouse> Quick question.  Will changing a partition label with gparted cause data to be lost?
[14:04] <enyc> mouse: shouldn't do, if it is doing what i think.
[14:04] <enyc> mouse:  it may stop /etc/fstab  etc. auto-mounting it if the name has changed, if it was mounted by label.
[14:04] <souleem> iiiiii
[14:04] <souleem> cnocheteeees
[14:05] <mouse> enyc, Alright thank you.
[14:05] <enyc> mouse: as always, back everything up before fiddling, but you kno =)
[14:05] <enyc> right im spending oto much time giving free technical support, not getting any answers to my question bleurgh!
[14:05] <mouse> enyc, Eh it's just windows.  Nothing of value would be lost.  =P
[14:06] <mttx> Hello Guys
[14:06] <mttx> Anyone here can help me change ubuntu 12 theme?
[14:06] <enyc> I want to know, how do the equivalent of  .xinitrc  in unity -- script that runs as part of X login, and can export environment variables BEFORE spawning all other unitp programs panels destkop etc.  please =)
[14:06] <kydan> hey guys quick question that I thought google would return easily but Im still a bit confused. I have an apache2 server that will be serving static content and will only be accessed by myself. What is best practices for file ownership underneath /var/www? www-data:www-data or my personal user? I was a bit confused cuz the default index.html generated by apache on install is owned by root:root which seems improper.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> mouse, labelling partitions is just an aid to identify your partitions like dolphin "places" as an example
[14:06] <mttx> I tried to drop package with theme on look widndow, but it didnt work
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> mttx  use gnome-tweak-tool
[14:07] <leotr> on some notebooks there is a recovery button (when user pressed it a system gets reinstalled) how to do the same thing with linux?
[14:07] <enyc> kydan: you can change the  apache2 conf  to simply serve files   from /home/kydan/my-website  or something if you like...
[14:07] <mttx> MonkeyDust, okay i go try that
[14:08] <kydan> enyc: I'd like to keep the default dir of /var/www, but either way who should own the files? Thats my main concern.
[14:08] <mttx> MonkeyDust, Where can i find it?
[14:08] <enyc> leotr: i guess thats manufacturer specif -- how did they setup their recovery-ssytem
[14:08] <BluesKaj> mouse, or nautllus
[14:08] <enyc> kydan: there are many options ;-)
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> mttx  in the software center
[14:08] <frankblax> ubuntu 12 w/ltsp: gedit printer icon disappears when several users try to print
[14:08] <mttx> Okay, another question
[14:08] <mouse> BluesKaj, Thank you.
[14:08] <OerHeks> leotr, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[14:08] <leotr> enyc: partition on drive and i think it becomes bootable
[14:08] <mttx> MonkeyDust, How do i open terminal here
[14:08] <leotr> thanks
[14:09] <enyc> kydan: if the webserver only needs to READ files then it can simply be owned by you, and your files must have the  r permission at the end in order that 'anybody' including webserver can 'read' them
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> mttx  ctrl-alt t
[14:09] <kydan> enyc: hehe indeed, I am looking for a best practices option for a super simple webserver! Its just static html pages
[14:09] <enyc> kydan: im not sure about 'best practice'  i think thats subjective
[14:09] <kydan> enyc: of course
[14:09] <llutz_> kydan: i'd use "$user:www-data"
[14:09] <enyc> kydan: and what do you mean be 'super simple' etc
[14:09] <kydan> llutz_: cool, thats kindof what I suspected
[14:10] <mttx> MonkeyDust, okay thanks a bilion, one more question. Can i change comptuer name somehow without reinstalling ubuntu?
[14:10] <llutz_> kydan: it makes sure your user can write/remove the files and the server can read them
[14:10] <kydan> enyc: just that its static html/php pages, really no DB access etc.
[14:10] <enyc> mttx: yes  mostly just update /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts  files i think
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> mttx  in hosts, or hostname
[14:10] <enyc> kydan: thetn you also don't need full blown apache2 tbh either...
[14:11] <_XMENDES> ubuntu 11:10 uses xserver?
[14:11] <mttx> I just switched from mint, thank you guys for help
[14:11] <kydan> llutz_: yeah ok, thats what I am looking for. I just wasnt sure if I should have www-data user be the owner as well. Is that typically considered unsecure to have the user www-data own files?
[14:11] <enyc> kydan: insecure againsh what? what is needed etc.
[14:11] <kydan> enyc: fair enough.
[14:12] <enyc> kydan: i think apache2 normally runs as  www-data
[14:12] <llutz_> kydan: im not a webmaster, but i see no reason why the webserver should have writeaccess to all files. just limited access to single files
[14:12] <enyc> kydan: if the directory-path + file is traversible/readable by   www-data,  it can serve the file
[14:12] <_XMENDES> i can use 3d on ubuntu 11:10 .. i have a 96 nvidia card.
[14:12] <enyc> kydan: if the directory-path + file is WRITABLE by www-data  a script running as the web server can 'change' stuff which might be damaging
[14:12] <_XMENDES> i can t use 3d on ubuntu 11:10 .. i have a 96 nvidia card.
[14:12] <kydan> enyc: cool. so 775 with $user:www-data should do it.
[14:13] <enyc> kydan: 755 tbh -- 775  allows www-data to write
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> _XMENDES  try upgrading to 12.04
[14:13] <kydan> enyc: oh woops yes. thanks.
[14:13] <_XMENDES> ok ..
[14:14] <llutz_> ky775 only for those it really needs to write to (not likely when using statical html only)
[14:14] <kyubotsu> just a little token of info... there is also an #ubuntu-server
[14:14] <enyc> I've answered lots of other questions, but nobody is helping me with where to find mine ;-(
[14:15] <mttx> MonkeyDust, I installed gnome tweak tool, but how do i open it now?
[14:15] <kydan> enyc: the root dir of /var/www should be owned by root:root though correct?
[14:15] <kyubotsu> >.>
[14:17] <enyc> kydan: again it depends what you want
[14:17] <enyc> kydan: if that is the case then, unless its world-writable,  NOBODY can put anything there.
[14:17] <enyc> kydan: (except manually as root).
[14:17] <feisar> ubuntu 12.04 is getting stuck on boot saying 'waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration' why would this be?
[14:18] <enyc> feisar: can't reach DHCP server?  is the cable plugged in?  etc.
[14:18] <kydan> enyc: I think thats what I would like since I'll be the only one using this thing. I believe thats the default as well.
[14:18] <enyc> feisar: do you have a custom  /etc/network/interfaces  file or something?
[14:18] <kydan> enyc: thanks for your help!
[14:19] <enyc> kydan: what do you mean 'you'
[14:19] <enyc> kydan: do you mean 'kydan' or do you mean 'root' ?
[14:19] <Jacruth> hi guys, "apt-get update" doesn't finish to retrieve the headers, why?
[14:20] <feisar> enyc: I do yes, here it is : http://pastebin.com/cneM8sUV
[14:20] <enyc> UaaaArgh  ive answered loods of questions  and  nobody is helping me ;-(  how do I *per-user* create a  unity  startup script, that  can e.g. set environment variables  that are inherited by all processes launched from the unity desktop login?
[14:20] <kydan> enyc: I'll be the only person adding/removing/modifying files on this setup, and I have access to the root user, so when things need to be modified as root that is not a problem.
[14:21] <enyc> kydan: yes but its bad practice to do routine updates as root
[14:21] <enyc> kydan: its much better to set permissions such that you just update the files as you
[14:21] <kydan> enyc: humm alright.
[14:21] <enyc> feisar: ok they are all set by static.
[14:21] <feisar> yeah
[14:21] <enyc> kydan: as its easier to make a systemwide-disaster
[14:21] <llutz_> kydan: "$user:www-data" and set sgid on /var/www too
[14:21] <enyc> feisar: not sure then tbh
[14:21] <badhorse> Jacruth, same problem here. i don't know why.
[14:22] <feisar> enyc: ok thanks, it does it on both my standard 12.04 server installs
[14:22] <enyc> feisar: has something changed thats stopping both notwork cards being identified etc.?
[14:22] <feisar> enyc: what do you mean identified?
[14:22] <enyc> feisar: yes i think ubuntu is getitng a lot of 'bugs under the hood'  they aren't like debian and RC-bug-fixing etc.
[14:23] <enyc> feisar: found by kernel and udev etc.
[14:23] <enyc> feisar: e.g. 'sudo ifconfig' can you see all your cards ?
[14:23] <feisar> enyc: yes
[14:23] <_XMENDES> 12:04 dont have suport to 96 nvidia driver?
[14:24] <jrib> enyc: use ~/.xprofile (or ~/.profile if it's the sort of thing you want set even when not using a gui).  If you want to startup apps, use ~/.config/autostart/ (drop a .desktop file in there)
[14:24] <enyc> _XMENDES: packages.ubuntu.com/nvidia-96  apparently its still there
[14:24] <_XMENDES> tks
[14:25] <_XMENDES> im upgrading here
[14:25] <enyc> jrib: THANKYOU!  is that started from the process that then launches everything, such that environment variables get inherited by everything started from the gui?
[14:25] <_XMENDES> back later.. see ya
[14:25] <jrib> enyc: yes
[14:25] <enyc> jrib: (at least, exported environment variables)
[14:25] <Azzle-Dazzle> does anyone know why firefox wont apply themes ? it says something about not being able to modify a certain file
[14:25] <enyc> jrib: yay, thankyou
[14:26] <jrib> enyc: feel free to read the contents of /usr/sbin/lightdm-session :)
[14:26] <enyc> jrib: hehee  my uni managed computers now have 12.04.1 lts and unity ;-(
[14:27] <Bertrand> hi!
[14:27] <jrib> enyc: if you don't like unity, they don't let you use a different session?
[14:27] <Bertrand> !list
[14:27] <dr_willis> Azzle-Dazzle:  what theme/file exactly?
[14:27] <dr_willis> Its supposed to be Ciao  then !list. ;P
[14:27] <Azzle-Dazzle> all of them dr_willis ive tried installing several ones from the extensions website and all give the same error
[14:28] <jrib> dr_willis: I have to say, judging solely on the statistics of this channel, italy must lead the world in irc piracy
[14:28] <Azzle-Dazzle> and yes they are all compatible with my system
[14:28] <nielsr> Hi
[14:28] <dr_willis> Azzle-Dazzle:  this one just worked for me..   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/shine-bright-skin/contribute/roadblock/?src=cb-dl-users&version=1.3.2
[14:29] <nielsr> I installed Ubuntu server and wanted to install Gnome Classic on it
[14:29] <dr_willis> nielsr:  you mean gnome 2 ?
[14:29] <nielsr> Yes
[14:29] <DocWilco> where can I find the status of a broken package?
[14:30] <nielsr> So I installed gnome-session-fallback and xinit
[14:30] <DocWilco> so I can get an idea of when things will be fixed?
[14:30] <compdoc> nielsr, I do that, but I install a very basic unity
[14:30] <enyc> nielsr: humm  you may need mint-13 MATE that continues   gnome-2  if thats what you want ??
[14:30] <nielsr> I don't want Unity :p
[14:30] <jrib> DocWilco: bugs.ubuntu.com
[14:30] <enyc> compdoc: how?
[14:30] <dr_willis> nielsr:  what version? the newer releases only have the gnome-3 fallnack mode..
[14:30] <nielsr> 12.04
[14:30] <Azzle-Dazzle> dr_willis: that one did not work either, same error
[14:30] <varikonniemi> hello. What will happen if i kill the python process on my machine?
[14:31] <nielsr> I used to use Ubuntu until I started using a Mac
[14:31] <varikonniemi> 12.04 64bit
[14:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> varikonniemi: "the python process" ?
[14:31] <smellySally> is software for pdf annotations available on ubuntu? I tried evince and okular so far. evince only can do text annotations. okular has at least a highlight function and basic drawing tools, but it can't save to pdf. any alternatives?
[14:31] <nielsr> But now I want a new Ubuntu box with the "old" desktop
[14:31] <dr_willis> Azzle-Dazzle:  i think you need to tell us the specific error. I would bet some file in your home is somehow owned by root.. as a test. try the same thing with a new user.
[14:31] <varikonniemi> yes, 12.04 has a process named python in autostart
[14:31] <dr_willis> BBL.
[14:31] <enyc> smellySally: i think i had someting starting with x that did that hummmmmmmmmm
[14:31] <pocata1> I want to ask is there any web browser that can change his IP blocked it because I am in a website and want to go again but it says that the ip is banned
[14:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> smellySally: xournal
[14:31] <enyc> smellySally: one of my lecturers used it
[14:31] <enyc> WhereIsMySpoon: yeeees thats probably it
[14:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> my lecturers use that a lot
[14:32] <dr_willis> pocata1: use a proxy, or somthing like TOR.
[14:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> seems p good
[14:32] <enyc> pocata1: humm no other than going via some proxy-server
[14:32] <varikonniemi> all 3 of my c2d nvidia setups have the problem python spawns a zombie child. So will something not work if i kill the python to get rid of the zombie? :D
[14:32] <enyc> pocata1: reconnect cablemodem  get new ip address etc.?
[14:33] <Azzle-Dazzle> dr_willis: This is the error: 'Nameoftheme' Could not be installed because firefox cannot modify the needed file'
[14:33] <compdoc> enyc, here's my notes:     http://pastebin.com/8YkYuxwY
[14:34] <maslen> How can I set the bitrate in Sound Juice ? The "Edit Profiles" button is missing
[14:34] <Summonziggurats> does anyone here have any experience with invision powerboard?
[14:34] <Summonziggurats> i cant seem to find a dedicated irc channel for it
[14:34] <smellySally> enyc: xournal? next on my list to try ^^
[14:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Azzle-Dazzle: you're not working in a sandbox are you
[14:35] <blackhole_> Hi I am trying to install Marlin (a Window Manager) but doing "http://ppa.launchpad.net/marlin-devs/marlin-daily/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages" gives me error Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~marlin-devs/+archive/marlin-daily: <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known>
[14:35] <enyc> compdoc: ok and does that give you gnome-2 or gnome-3 ?
[14:35] <blackhole_> Can someone help?
[14:35] <varikonniemi> lol wait a minute
[14:35] <varikonniemi> now i found out the root cause :D
[14:35] <Azzle-Dazzle> no its a proper ubuntu set up :) dual booted along side windows on a seperate drive
[14:35] <enyc> blackhole_: maybe, if we have a good clearly written out question with the needed details in it
[14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> Azzle-Dazzle: could be that your default profile folder naem is too long
[14:35] <smellySally> blackhole_: isn't marlin a file manager?
[14:35] <blackhole_> smellySally: yeh sorry
[14:35] <pocata1> not tried it there a way to put some masked IP with a program or something else
[14:36] <blackhole_> smellySally: that's what i meant, nautils is taking too much memory!
[14:36] <varikonniemi> guake terminal uses python, and when it is launched, it launches python, and bash and itself, and for some reason itself is shown as zombie :D
[14:36] <enyc> pocata1: not directly, its a properlty of the network, not the program runnig on it, as such
[14:36] <blackhole_> enyc: I couldn't install marlin .. help me on that
[14:36] <compdoc> enyc, its Unity, the standard desktop, but you can install this instead:   gnome-session-fallback
[14:36] <jrib> blackhole_: doing what?  You said you're "doing URL".  I don't know what that means.  Also, is https right?
[14:36] <enyc> blackhole_: because?
[14:36] <Azzle-Dazzle> WhereIsMySpoon: How would I know that ? It used to work at first, I unistalled it with synaptic, But chromium has been crashing lately so i redownloaded it.
[14:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> Azzle-Dazzle: look at the name
[14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> also you said this was firefox
[14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> not chromium
[14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
[14:37] <blackhole_> enyc because when i try to do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:marlin-devs/marlin-daily it gives error can't open url
[14:37] <blackhole_> jrib: ^^
[14:37] <Azzle-Dazzle> yes sorry, I used to use chromium, it started crashing so I installed firefox (which I previously uninstalled some weeks back because i didnt use it)
[14:37] <enyc> blackhole_: maybe that repository isn't woring any more?  have you tried giving details to the person wor creates that ppa?
[14:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> blackhole_: use thunar, its quite nice
[14:38] <pocata1> I know but I thought there might be a program that could sazdade any IP as expressly granted herein only to
[14:38] <blackhole_> WhereIsMySpoon: Ahh Okay
[14:38] <jrib> blackhole_: can you visit ttps://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~marlin-devs/+archive/marlin-daily in your browser?
[14:38] <blackhole_> WhereIsMySpoon: I will try it..
[14:38] <enyc> pocata1: i diont know what  sazdade  is
[14:38] <enyc> pocata1: alse it really depends what ssytems is cecking IPs in what way etc  how does it work etc.
[14:38] <blackhole_> jrib: The link seems valid
[14:39] <jrib> blackhole_: I don't know what this means
[14:39] <blackhole_> WhereIsMySpoon: Would thunar work with KDE/Gnome or is that only for xfce
[14:39] <Jacruth> badhorse, could it be because ubuntu's reposi?
[14:42] <Azzle-Dazzle> I think i know the issue, Where could i find the mozilla firefox profile folder ?
[14:42] <DocWilco> Azzle-Dazzle: ~/.firefox
[14:42] <seednode> Remember, you can usually Google things like that.
[14:43] <DocWilco> Azzle-Dazzle: sorry, ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[14:43] <slaptman> I have a big problem with my mouse(USB and Touchpad) lagging to the point where sometimes it is unuseable can someone please help?
[14:44] <seednode> slaptman: Are you sure it's not a hardware issue?
[14:44] <slaptman> Works fine on windows i have tried all distros and have that same problem
[14:45] <Azzle-Dazzle> Ok, whats the command to restart an app (sorry for sounding so n00bish, But i am :) )
[14:47] <Azzle-Dazzle> IT WORKS !!!
[14:53] <maslen> frick. Why is it so hard to rip an mp3 into VBR on ubuntu?
[14:54] <Myrtti> it's not.
[14:54] <maslen> Myrtti: How do you do it?
[14:54] <Myrtti> maslen: with soundjuicer.
[14:54] <maslen> rip a CD into a VVBR MP3*
[14:54] <maslen> Myrtti: The "Edit profile" button is grayed out.
[14:54] <maslen> so it only rips 128kbit mp3's.
[14:55] <Myrtti> maslen: or VLC, I can't remember what I used last
[14:55] <maslen> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 /x86-64
[14:56]  * maslen is sad.
[14:56] <Phosphate> Whats the preferred way to stop sharing users home directories? I'm assuming I shouldn't just go at /etc/samba/smb.conf with an axe?
[14:56] <john> Hello
[14:56] <slaptman> I would really love to get the mouse working tired of windows
[14:56] <maslen> back to using exact audio copy on windows.
[14:57] <john> I can not upgrade from ubuntu 10.04
[14:57] <john> I can not upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 please sb help
[14:58] <john> python 2.6 gives error and prevents me from upgrade
[14:59] <john> python 2.6 gives error and prevents me from upgrade
[14:59] <john> python 2.6 gives error and prevents me from upgrade
[14:59] <FloodBot1> john: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <vanberge> anyone know if it's possible to upgrade to 12.10 beta from 12.04 using either apt or update manager?
[15:00] <Pinkamena_D> is it possible to make the screen not show the desktop before it asks for a password
[15:00] <Pinkamena_D> people can still see what i am working on for maybe 1-3 seconds
[15:01] <Pinkamena_D> this being after a resume from suspend
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> vanberge  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:01] <llutz_> !12.10 | vanberge: changing sources.list and using apt-get should do
[15:01] <t00tie> hi. I'm trying to webcast video with different sites. All of them fail 'cos I can't click the "allow access to my camera" flash player thing. Any hints? 12.04 pretty up-to-date
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> t00tie  maybe some ip-tables setting blocks incoming requests
[15:11] <totimkopf> Hi guys, today I booted up my linux laptop which runs 12.04.1 LTS and it went straight to console! Then I did 'sudo reboot' then it xwindows partially appeared (only the cursor) then later I rebooted yet again and just hit enter on the blank screen and everything appeared. What is the issue? How can I fix this? :)
[15:11] <marcos> hola
[15:12] <marcos> hola
[15:12] <marcos> eoooo
[15:13] <t00tie> MonkeyDust: found a solution here https://getsatisfaction.com/12seconds/topics/webcam_doesnt_work_with_flash_10_for_linux and then here http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[15:16] <mashbro> Hi. Which version of Ubuntu do you think this is - bit.ly/PeRPxm ?
[15:17] <ikonia> mashbro: could be any version running unity
[15:18] <OerHeks> mashbro, 12.04 with a funny background
[15:18] <mashbro> ikonia: Yes, do you have any idea which would be it?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> mashbro  it's unity with virtual box in seamless mode
[15:18] <ikonia> mashbro: why ?
[15:18] <totimkopf> nobody has experienced my issue with 12.04.1 LTS? :)
[15:18] <ikonia> mashbro: it's just a current unity version eg: 12.04
[15:20] <xevwork> I'm in a bit of a bind here: I was doing a dist-upgrade on a server when something messed up the terminal - I need to run reset to fix it because it's only updating the bottom line and overwriting it each time there's an update.
[15:20] <vb> knife
[15:20] <xevwork> So, when it got to a config file with differences, I pressed Z to suspend the process.
[15:20] <xevwork> Now I'm not sure what to type to get back into it.
[15:20] <xevwork> fg didn't do it...
[15:21] <trece8> hi. at nm-tool, I see all wireless access points at 100% strength, even thou they are not at that state. Alongside, I have connection issues related to this, jumping from one AP to the other. Any ideas?
[15:23] <jrib> xevwork: check for screen sessions
[15:24] <xevwork> jrib: Nope.
[15:24] <theseb> help! i set number of desktops to 1 but ubuntu STILL have a COLUMN of workspaces
[15:24] <theseb> ???
[15:24] <theseb> is that normal?
[15:24] <xevwork> jrib: It's backgrounded... I'm just unable to figure out what the command to foreground the process again is...
[15:24] <mashbro> ikonia, OerHeks: thanks.
[15:25] <jrib> xevwork: what do you see in the output of "jobs"?
[15:25] <xevwork> jrib: Nothing.
[15:26] <jrib> xevwork: so why do you say it's backgrounded? :)
[15:27] <jrib> xevwork: what's the output of « screen -ls »
[15:27] <xevwork> jrib: dpkg doesn't use screen
[15:27] <liwiki> hi
[15:27] <xevwork> jrib: There are no screens running.
[15:28] <jrib> xevwork: ah, I thought you were doing a do-release-upgrade.  So you just ran a « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »?
[15:28] <xevwork> jrib: No I did do-release-upgrade
[15:28] <xevwork> jrib: During that process I got a message with the Y/I/N/O/D/Z options. I pressed Z
[15:28] <jrib> xevwork: that uses screen :/
[15:28] <ioio> dns vps22629.public.cloudvps.com
[15:29] <xevwork> jrib: Well darn, then it failed entirely.
[15:29] <ioio> dns vps22629.public.cloudvps.com
[15:29] <jrib> xevwork: though I think that hitting Z there would leave you in screen and just background it inside the screen session
[15:30] <jrib> xevwork: actually, maybe it just starts a new terminal and you just need to exit it -- I can't remember
[15:30] <xevwork> jrib: No screen at all, actually. And it doesn't even background the process.
[15:30] <xevwork> jrib: It just launches a terminal.
[15:30] <xevwork> That's really unclear and should be documented better.
[15:30] <jrib> xevwork: what ubuntu version are you upgrading from?
[15:31] <xevwork> jrib: It should say "Z: launch a shell to examine this situation" instead of "Z: background this process to examine the situation"
[15:31] <xevwork> jrib: I've got a few versions to upgrade.
[15:31] <jrib> xevwork: so exiting the shell returned you to the upgrade?
[15:31] <xevwork> jrib: Yes it did.
[15:31] <jrib> xevwork: yeah, should probably be re-worded
[15:33] <hero> 谁有空？
[15:33] <Martell> ...
[15:33] <auronandace> !zh | hero
[15:35] <basil_kurian_> Any idea how to get reports of custom commands on SAR ?
[15:35] <basil_kurian_>  like lsof| wc -l
[15:36] <jrib> basil_kurian_: what is SAR?
[15:36] <basil_kurian_> System Auditing and Reporting
[15:37] <basil_kurian_> http://linux.die.net/man/1/sar
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> basil_kurian_  ubuntu has atsar in the repos
[15:39] <trece8> hi. at nm-tool, I see all wireless access points at 100% strength, even thou they are not at that state. Alongside, I have connection issues related to this, jumping from one AP to the other. Any ideas?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !info atsar
[15:39] <TimothyA> k, tripwire is not what I was looking for
[15:40] <basil_kurian_> Does atsar got such features ?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> basil_kurian_  havent tried, you may want to explore it
[15:42] <basil_kurian_> ok, thanks
[15:43] <totimkopf> http://pastebin.com/RaNvSPk5 you guys notice anything funky with my /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[15:52] <Sokel> wut
[15:55] <oconnore> Does anyone know what would make my Ubuntu 12.04 box get "sticky" after a while. When I first boot up, everything is very snappy, but after an hour or so, even switching between tabs in terminal, opening the unity menu, or maximizing a window takes 1-2 seconds.
[15:56] <AresTheLion> Maybe a ram issue?
[15:56] <jrib> oconnore: check top
[15:57] <oconnore> AresTheLion: like, running out of ram? I have 6GB and 3GB is free.
[15:57] <oconnore> jrib: there is no significant CPU usage, the highest is Firefox with 3% of one of my 4 cores.
[15:57] <jrib> oconnore: and memory?
[15:57] <AresTheLion> oconnore, What is your setup? 4 by 4 sticks?
[15:58] <AresTheLion> did you custom build?
[15:58] <oconnore> jrib: 3/6GB used.
[15:58] <oconnore> AresTheLion: no, it's an off the shelf Dell T7500
[15:59] <AresTheLion> oconnore, Okay, well my guess would definitely be ram issues. the fact that you are also at 3/6 is suspicious. Do you ever get more than 3?
[15:59] <ncmccx> hello I have a noob question. I have a samba share that i can see from windows 7 but I cant copy to
[15:59] <jrib> oconnore: what's using the most memory?  Does killing it affect your machine's "stickiness"?  Is anything writing to the disk constantly?
[15:59] <lelouch> i recently installed ubuntu in my acer Aspire 5610Z but won't detect any Graphic card or vga
[15:59] <ncmccx> in smb.conf i set guest to yes
[16:00] <oconnore> AresTheLion: yeah, it's just not being loaded very heavily right now. It's not exactly 3GB, but 3333728k ~ 3GB
[16:00] <lelouch> i recently installed ubuntu in my acer Aspire 5610Z but won't detect any Graphic card or vga Any ideaaa
[16:01] <AresTheLion> lelouch, type sudo apt-get update
[16:01] <AresTheLion> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:01] <ncmccx> when i try to access files over smaba says do not have permission but i set permission for smb.conf guest yes
[16:01] <ncmccx> samba*
[16:01] <AresTheLion> oconnore, Is it just with unity?
[16:01] <lelouch> AresTheLion: Already try it and also add repository for intel but nothinf detected
[16:02] <AresTheLion> lelouch, are you running an NVIDIA card?
[16:02] <oconnore> jrib: what do you mean by killing my memory?
[16:02] <tryy3> what is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/colord/colord doing?
[16:02] <AresTheLion> tryy3, My guess is coloring something
[16:02] <jrib> oconnore: by "it", I meant the program using memory
[16:03] <tryy3> AresTheLion but i have shutdown gnome, does it mean i can kill that process?
[16:03] <kucuq> Hi, i want to use a bluethooth headset. The connections works with the applet, but it does not show up in the puseaudio manager
[16:03] <AresTheLion> tryy3, What do you mean exactly?
[16:03] <lelouch> AresTheLion: Well it CAME with the laptop integrat one Vga ...
[16:03] <kucuq> i see only the hdmi and the sound card there. puseaudio-module-bluetooth is installed
[16:03] <oconnore> jrib: there is no program using a significant amount of memory.  You can check if you install the synapse package manager
[16:04] <AresTheLion> you get get it through the software center
[16:05] <tryy3> AresTheLion what does synapse package manager do?
[16:05] <oconnore> AresTheLion: as a test I just logged out and logged back into Unity, and it is fast now.
[16:05] <AresTheLion> tryy3, It just lets you view all the packages on your system
[16:05] <oconnore> probably for another half hour or something
[16:05] <AresTheLion> oconnore, Well, are you using NVIDIA card?
[16:05] <oconnore> AresTheLion: yes
[16:05] <bazhang> !synaptic | AresTheLion
[16:06] <lelouch> AresTheLion: Hahhaha that doesn't help
[16:06] <tryy3> AresTheLion then i dont belive so, and i cant check on software center if there is no command for it, iam not home so i only got ssh and ftp access
[16:06] <AresTheLion> Long story short, NVIDIA is very unfriendly when it comes to the linux community. It's really hard for us to get anything from them up until recently
[16:06] <oconnore> jrib: I am using about 1-2GB, with a gig of disk cache/buffers.
[16:06] <AresTheLion> tryy3, I'm not sure then, it would only be a shot in the dark. if you really want to find out that would be the best way.
[16:07] <oconnore> AresTheLion: hmm, do you think nouveau would work better?
[16:07] <tryy3> AresTheLion oh ok
[16:07] <jrib> oconnore: ok, so what's using the 2GB?  Can you account for them?  You have very many programs open?
[16:07] <AresTheLion> oconnore, It's always worth a shot. I'm not a developer, just an experienced user. I use integrated graphics.
[16:08] <lelouch> Well any Idea what can i install for my laptop 512 ram and CPU 2.0 X2
[16:08] <AresTheLion> lelouch, pay attention to what jrib and oconnore are talking about. they have a similar issue (I believe its linked to your graphics card)
[16:08] <AresTheLion> brb breakfast
[16:09] <jrib> lelouch: oconnore is having an issue where his computer is sluggish after some time; not sure it's the same as your issue
[16:10] <oconnore> jrib: firefox is using between 200-700MB (199 now that I re-logged in). The JVM is using ~300MB. I don't think 2GB is very high. What is a typical base memory usage for 12.04 with unity?
[16:11] <bekks> oconnore: 100% of your RAM. You have it to be used.
[16:11] <oconnore> bekks: what what?
[16:11] <jrib> oconnore: I don't know what base memory usage is for a vanilla unity install
[16:11] <bekks> oconnore: Unused RAM is useless.
[16:11] <blackhole> how to put side launcher to buttom?
[16:11] <bekks> oconnore: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[16:12] <lelouch> jrib: Well mine works so slow after upgrade from 11.10 it's like i can't open software center  and block every while
[16:12] <oconnore> bekks: Oh, I agree.
[16:12] <jrib> lelouch: check top output
[16:12] <oconnore> bekks: no, jrib was wondering if there was some process gone awry I think. We're not worried about memory usage itself, but clearly something is misbehaving on my system.
[16:13] <bekks> oconnore: Plan start of firefox takes 234MB here.
[16:13] <bekks> *plain even
[16:13]  * jrib looks at his 28MB of memory usage
[16:14] <jrib> oconnore: do your issues go away when you log out and log back in?
[16:14] <lelouch> jrib: my ram works well
[16:14] <oconnore> jrib: yes
[16:14] <bekks> jrib: You're facing people mixing up VIRT, RES and SHR :)
[16:14] <oconnore> bekks: no I'm not.
[16:14] <bekks> oconnore: But I was - my firefox takes 39MB in deed.
[16:15] <jrib> lelouch: you should check for high cpu usage or high memory usage in top.  Do you see anything like that?
[16:16] <TJ-> lelouch: There is a known bug with software-center appearing to stall when it opens, whilst it fetches online content and checks packages locally.
[16:16] <Okid> Hi All. can someone point me to the correct channel for Java issues on Ubuntu Dekstop 12?
[16:17] <gordonjcp> Okid: probably here; just ask your question
[16:17] <lelouch> jrib: well it's like verry high both cpu
[16:17] <bekks> lelouch: Then you could pastebin the output of: ps -aux
[16:17] <bekks> !paste | lelouch
[16:18] <Okid> thanks gordonjcp. I'm a newbiew and downloaded the latest Java version but don't understand how to install it. Don't see script to run.
[16:18] <Okid> extracted it but don't see how to install it and add it as a plug in
[16:18] <bekks> Okid: Why dont you just use the latest version of OpenJDK?
[16:18] <dan6796> hello
[16:18] <lelouch> i'm working in 2 difrent pc ...
[16:19] <Okid> bkks...sure it works. just use apt-get install OpenJDK?
[16:19] <bekks> Okid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[16:20] <witeds> i am having some issues with nvidia drivers i recently installed the nvidia 304 driver over 173 from nvidia to test a 8400GS and now when i try to put it back to 173 for my Quadro FX 1300 i am only able to reach cli the Desktop Manager wont start
[16:24] <apple-iBookG4> heyz!  I have a broadcom4306. I installed b43 drivers, and it works. EXCEPT the tray icon, which remains always "off", in the sense that the signal's power strenght results always ZERO even if it's at the maximum
[16:25] <apple-iBookG4> in a few words, the icon isn't active, isn't really "connected" with the right system service to appurate what the signal strenght is
[16:25] <apple-iBookG4> What do you suggest?
[16:29] <dreambox> Hi, I installed Ubuntu server x64 and then... Kubuntu package on top. I wish to move away from KDE and go to Gnome3 or Unity, what should I do to keep the system as clean as possible from stuff?  (while not losing my Nvidia drivers and so on..)
[16:30] <dreambox> (it took me a while to get this thing running so..)
[16:31] <apple-iBookG4> dreambox: first you should ask yourself which packages/metapackages have you installed to put up kde
[16:32] <dreambox> apple-iBookG4: the kubuntu package..
[16:33] <dreambox> apple-iBookG4: and some Nvidia related K-stuff.
[16:33] <OerHeks> !puregnome
[16:33] <dreambox> OerHeks: thanks
[16:34] <dreambox> OerHeks:  the problem is before installing Kubuntu package I had the Ubuntu SERVER version therefore I don't think I'll have Unity.
[16:35] <jrib> dreambox: make sure you install ubuntu-desktop to get unity
[16:35] <OerHeks> follow that after installing ubuntu-desktop/unity
[16:35] <jrib> dreambox: in theory you should be able to remove the kubuntu package you installed and just use apt-get autoremove
[16:35] <dreambox> so I can actually install ubuntu desktop, get unity, try it out see how it works out
[16:36] <jrib> dreambox: yep, no harm in keeping both
[16:36] <OerHeks> sure
[16:36] <dreambox> well let's go then :) I saw Unity is a bit more slick
[16:36] <dreambox> although the damn buttons are on the left :)
[16:36] <dreambox> damn Unity UX designer :-)
[16:37] <apple-iBookG4> dreambox: then you should just purge them
[16:37] <dreambox> do you also know how I install GNOME 3 ?
[16:37] <chatman> dreambox: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[16:37] <bazhang> dreambox, it's already gnome3. perhaps you mean gnome-shell
[16:37] <dreambox> bazhang:  yeah, indeed, gnome-shell :)
[16:38] <dreambox> Thanks all.
[16:38] <bazhang> gnome-panel for the 'classic' look
[16:40] <zeromatrix> whats better fedora or ubuntu in your opinion
[16:40] <bekks> !ot | zeromatrix
[16:40] <zeromatrix> okay
[16:40] <streulma> anyone had Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 9.1 / 9.2 ?
[16:41] <zeromatrix> whats something kewl i could do with grep
[16:41] <zeromatrix> im trying to learn linux
[16:41] <bekks> !ot | zeromatrix
[16:41] <zeromatrix> isnt grep a ubuntu command?
[16:42] <viktor> rofl
[16:42] <chatman> zeromatrix: not specific to ubuntu
[16:42] <zeromatrix> sure it is
[16:42] <istevenmon> is there any dababase modelation software? something like power designer or erwin?
[16:42] <chatman> zeromatrix: this is just a support channel
[16:43] <chatman> zeromatrix: no, grep is a basic linux command
[16:43] <sayres> I install vbox 4.2 ,but how can drag and drop between host and gust?
[16:43] <zeromatrix> okay so you are more about the desktop
[16:43] <chatman> zeromatrix: no, this channel is here to help people with issues
[16:43] <zeromatrix> k thx i'll go read the guidelines
[16:44] <zeromatrix> or just stay quite and learn about the channel
[16:44] <chatman> zeromatrix: you don't seem to have an issue, you just seem rather bored
[16:44] <chatman> !terminal | zeromatrix
[16:44] <zeromatrix> my issue is learning so i'll just read what everyone says
[16:44] <timini> whats the name of the ssh deamon?
[16:45] <jrib> timini: sshd
[16:45] <chatman> timini: sshd
[16:45] <timini> thanks
[16:48] <saby> is there is a search function in apt-get ?
[16:48] <saby> something like yum search <name>
[16:48] <bazhang> saby, apt-cache search package
[16:48] <saby> or pacman -Ss <name>
[16:48] <jrib> !apt | saby
[16:48] <saby> ah thanks bazhang
[16:49] <sayres>  I install vbox 4.2 ,but how can drag and drop between host and gust?
[16:50] <bekks> sayres: Please see my answer in #vbox
[16:50] <spat> does ubuntu 12.04 have some firewall enabled by default?
[16:51] <chatman> !ufw | spat
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> sayres, you can use a shared file.
[16:51] <bazhang> !iptable > spat
[16:51] <bazhang> +s
[16:52] <sayres> wilee-nilee: dude i konw can use share but i use this new feature
[16:52] <bazhang> spat you can use gufw if you need a gui for ufw
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> sayres, Dude if you show an attitude no one will help you.
[16:52] <bekks> sayres: vbox does not implement any drag&drop for files.
[16:53] <spat> bazhang: sorry not my question. my problem is that I set up ssh access on an ubuntu box that worked fine over wifi but now I cant reach it
[16:54] <spat> so does ubuntu 12.04 destop have default firewalling enabled
[16:54] <spat> or enabled by default
[16:54] <sayres>  bekks: mean virtualbox dosent support drag and drop?
[16:58] <bekks> sayres: Thats exactky what I just said.
[16:58] <bekks> sayres: And thats why I told you about the clipboard sharing for textual content in #vbox
[17:01] <Almindor> hello
[17:01] <lnxslck> hello
[17:01] <sayres> bekks: sorry ,cant i drag and drop files between host & guest?
[17:01] <baltazar> hi there
[17:01] <Almindor> I'm running LTS 10.04 server and we've started getting this error: ImportError: cannot import name urandom
[17:01] <Almindor> it's a python issue known at 12.04 with virtualenv
[17:01] <bekks> sayres: For the third time. Thats exactly what I said.
[17:01] <Almindor> but this is 10.04 and we don't use virtualenv at all
[17:01] <sayres> bekks: ok dude tnx
[17:02] <Almindor> doing basic "from os import urandom" does this
[17:02] <Almindor> any ideas what to do? it's blocking our deployment platform
[17:04] <tryingUbuntu> hello all/.  I tried earlier with no luck.. i have 12.04 Docky and a weather app installed but all I can get is the blue questionmark.  it isnt connecting???  I have a pic of it but pastebin is busy
[17:04] <tryingUbuntu> how to fix it
[17:05] <ovatsug> hello, I'm trying to use libsoup, but I can't find any documentation on how to convert WSDL file to stubs, so I can use it on my program, any ideas?
[17:09] <xibalba> i just found a process called 'whoopsie'? just say it in my system, no friggin idea what it is
[17:10] <jrib> xibalba: apt-cache show whoopsie
[17:10] <DJones> xibalba: Thats a package that submits crash reports
[17:10] <xibalba> oh cool thanks
[17:11] <xibalba> thought my box was pwn'd
[17:12] <Almindor> why is there no urandom in /usr/lib/python2.6/os.py????
[17:13] <Almindor> and why was it broken with a security update on 10.04 LTS..
[17:13] <anon> hi
[17:13] <digitalirony> hey guys
[17:14] <digitalirony> So, this strange issue has started to occur. Ever so often, autofs seems to just stop responding. On 12.04
[17:14] <digitalirony> I can't remount or anything. anything at all attempting to access the autofs file just hangs. A reboot fixes it, but its rather annoying
[17:15] <digitalirony> I have home directories automount over NFS
[17:16] <digitalirony> so the users are having quite some issues, and maybe the issue is with NFS itself, I am not sure at this point, just wanted to see if it was a common or known issue
[17:17] <tomtiger11> I'm wondering how i can install and run programs locally using a ltsp booted computer
[17:20] <^GeCk0^> hi, when i set up my microphone my settings get lost after reboot. is there any bugfix ?
[17:21] <bekks> ^GeCk0^: You just asked the same in the german channel. ;)
[17:21] <^GeCk0^> they trollin
[17:21] <meberhart> maybe his other microphone speaks German
[17:24] <kyubotsu> posting the SAME question is not an issue. posting in multiple channels at the same time is. just to clarify
[17:24] <roasted_> Question - In "Simple Scan" is there a way to set the default scanner? My Epson comes up with two entries, one long text entry saying "Epson Workforce 435 Scanner blah blah blah blah" but that doesn't seem to work. In the drop down list there's Epson PID 0870, and this works. I want the PID entry to be default. Can I somehow adjust it?
[17:25] <kyubotsu> there is a factoid though..
[17:25] <kyubotsu> !crossposting
[17:27] <ubuntu-help> Hey guys.. I have an old php 5.3 install... I just installed php 5.4.3 via apt php5 -v shows its there... how to I remove or tell ubuntu to use the php5 install?
[17:28] <DJones> roasted_: Maybe from the menu -> Documents -> Preferences    Has an option for scan source (I only have one source, so can't tell if it changes the default)
[17:28] <intrepid003> well hello there :D
[17:29] <roasted_> DJones: yes, I can select it there. What I'd like is for it to DEFAULT to a specific scanner. It always defaults to the one that doesn't work for me.
[17:30] <thufir_> I can't get sound working after a clean install.  I think the drivers are wrong:  https://gist.github.com/3841172   how do I know what drivers I have and how do I install the correct ones?
[17:30] <xevwork> Does anyone have a howto for installing 12.04 onto RAID10?
[17:30] <intrepid003> i'm looking to set up a home web server, which i've done before and can stumble my way through, but i was wondering if anyone has experience setting up a mumble server, and if i can set up said mumble server on the same machine as the web server
[17:30] <tryy3> hi iam trying to kill a process (its a minecraft server process) iam trying to do it with htop, i tryed to do 'sudo htop' i tryed to press tree and kill the top process, and its not working, i press the kill button, then i press 'Sigterm' then i press enter and it wont go away! please help me?
[17:32] <joebuntu> so is syncing an iphone 4 on ubuntu possible yet?
[17:32] <joebuntu> still doesnt work with rhythmbox
[17:33] <DJones> roasted_: I can't see any way of changing/setting a default scanner
[17:34] <roasted_> DJones: I hear ya. :( I was hoping maybe there was a config file I could swap around, ya know?
[17:34] <thufir_> how do I see what drivers I have for sound?
[17:34] <midnightcoffee> how i can i open a duplicate terminal, one that has the same system path?
[17:34] <bekks> tryy3: Please provide the output of "ps -ef" in a pastebin.
[17:35] <tryy3> bekks http://pastebay.net/1149324 i think the process have frozen too, the time+ isn't changing
[17:36] <overclucker> tryy3: ps -ef | grep craftbukkit.jar (or whatever you have it named as) grab th PID and do kill -9 PID
[17:39] <ciao> list
[17:40] <bekks> !list | ciao
[17:41] <tryy3> thanks overclucker
[17:42] <ubuntu-help> Hey guys.. I have an old php 5.3 install... I just installed php 5.4.3 via apt php5 -v shows its there... how to I remove or tell ubuntu to use the php5 install?
[17:42] <bekks> ubuntu-help: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[17:43] <soobeom> hi there...
[17:43] <ubuntu-help> lucid i believe
[17:43] <bekks> ubuntu-help: lsb_release -sc will tell you :)
[17:43] <ubuntu-help> bekks: yes lucid
[17:45] <sesshomaru> hello, is there a way to downmix my audio output to monoaural?
[17:48] <upmauro> please help, i'm a idiot and executed ( rm -rf * ) in /etc/apache2, after that i tried reinstall apache2 package but when i start service, this message raised .: 51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars, what should i do ?
[17:50] <thufir_> how do you know whether you have the mp3 codecs?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> thufir_: can you play MP3s?
[17:50] <Coolternet> salut
[17:50] <thufir_> gordonjcp: no.   https://gist.github.com/3841172
[17:51] <Coolternet> i use Gnome IRC ...
[17:51] <Coolternet> anyone can help me with permission of Ubuntu ?
[17:51] <ardchoille> Coolternet: what is the problem?
[17:51] <Coolternet> i have a fresh install and i can't modify anything... my message is '' you don't have permission ''
[17:51] <thufir_> I'm on a very basic system, not alot of ram or cpu, so I'm trying not to use the GUI package manager
[17:52] <Coolternet> i need to copy and paste my folder to var/www/
[17:52] <Myrtti> Coolternet: what do you want to modify?
[17:52] <ardchoille> !sudo | Coolternet
[17:52] <thufir_> Coolternet: can you show a screenshot, or, even better, use the terminal?  paste to a pastebin.
[17:52] <Coolternet> yeah i use sudo su and i cna modify anithing but i can't have access with my account...
[17:52] <Coolternet> yeah wait
[17:53] <gatuus> Coolternet: sudo su
[17:53] <ardchoille> Coolternet: use sudo -i instead of sudo su
[17:53] <thufir_> he just said that sudo works.
[17:53] <bazhang> gatuus, dont advise that here please
[17:53] <abejas> clues for using/exporting *.mdb files (Microsoft Office Database) to something valid to LibreOffice?
[17:53] <Coolternet> http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1403/capturedu20121005135256.png
[17:53] <abejas>  I installed mdbtools
[17:54] <abejas> but nothing happened apparently
[17:55] <Coolternet> i have use cp /media/D27431CF7431B6D7/BKP7/UwAmp -r /var/www/
[17:55] <Coolternet> for copy paste my directory from my windows folder (UwAmp)
[17:55] <gordonjcp> thufir_: that looks wrong
[17:55] <Coolternet> and when i try to go to open folder .. i have this error
[17:55] <escott> abejas, you are better off extracting the data to a real RDBMS. I wouldn't trust anything that claims it can read an mdb file
[17:55] <rento> g
[17:56] <gordonjcp> abejas: you can use mdbtools to pick apart .mdb files
[17:56] <thufir_> gordonjcp: yeah, I think I have the wrong version of mplayer or something.  or, no mp3 support.  I have no sound after a clean install.
[17:56] <ardchoille> Coolternet: you need to use sudo cp
[17:56] <gordonjcp> abejas: there's a kind of half-assed SQL engine that kinda-sorta works
[17:56] <gordonjcp> abejas: don't use it; extract the data and stuff it into another DB engine like sqlite
[17:56] <gordonjcp> thufir_: I just realised I'm using mplayer not mplayer2
[17:57] <gordonjcp> thufir_: is that the packaged mplayer2?
[17:57] <abejas> So, do I extract it using mdbtools?
[17:57] <gordonjcp> abejas: yes
[17:57] <thufir_> right, I was curious about that.  right now I've removed all mplayer stuff.
[17:57] <abejas> I'll try it
[17:57] <Coolternet> how can i have root right on my main account ?
[17:57] <thufir_> gordonjcp: it's ubuntu 12.04.  should i use mplayer or mplayer2 or ..?
[17:58] <ardchoille> Coolternet: use sudo, you don't need to be in the root account
[17:58] <gordonjcp> abejas: handy hint - if you want a really *quick* way to get it going, look at dumping the schema and turning it into Django models
[17:58] <escott> abejas, try something like http://www.bullzip.com/products/a2m/info.php
[17:58] <gatuus> Here's an article about differents types of "sudos su's": http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[17:58] <Coolternet> yeah but i can't have access to my pasted folder ...
[17:58] <gordonjcp> abejas: in an afternoon you can have your old Access database in a nice webby database ;-)
[17:58] <thufir_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3  says to install gstreamer, but that's for 11.x, not 12.04 ubuntu.
[17:58] <ardchoille> Coolternet: I don't think you quite understand sudo. please read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:59] <gordonjcp> thufir_: why is it trying to connect to /dev/dsp and not pulse?
[17:59] <upmauro> please help, i'm a idiot and executed ( rm -rf * ) in /etc/apache2, after that i tried reinstall apache2 package but when i start service, this message raised .: 51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars, what should i do ?
[17:59] <Westz> okay, does anyone here run, or know a lot about, Asus 1215n or Optimus/ION2?
[17:59] <thufir_> gordonjcp: I don't know.  that's not normal?  I need to install pulseaudio, perhaps?
[17:59] <Coolternet> okay how cna i change right of any folder ?
[18:00] <gordonjcp> thufir_: it should be there, unless you started from ubuntu-server?
[18:00] <thufir_> I started from ubuntu-server.  pulseaudio shows as installed.
[18:00] <ardchoille> Coolternet: you don't need to change the rights, you're making things more difficult. use sudo to perform admin work.
[18:00] <ubuntu-help> bekks: did I lose you
[18:01] <Westz> i've got an Asus 1215n with Lucid that has an Intel 6230 wireless/bluetooth combo card. i can't connect to the internet however, not even with an ethernet cable
[18:01] <Coolternet> yeah but how can i modify my website if i dont have root right ?
[18:01] <ardchoille> Coolternet: I don't think you quite understand sudo. please read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> Westz, This channel works as you addressing your problem in the form of a question.
[18:01] <thufir_> Coolternet: is your account a user account?  do you have suo priveleges?  go to settings and post a screenshot of your account privileges.
[18:01] <overclucker> tryy3: yw. the problem is that craftbukkit doesn't handle SIGTERM, the default kill signal, so you have to use SIGKILL instead (kill -9)
[18:01] <ardchoille> Coolternet: sudo will allow you to do what you need
[18:01] <Kireji> ubuntu do I have to reboot after updating "linux-server"? (running Lucid)
[18:02] <tryy3> overclucker oh ok
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> Westz, Hehe I see that you have my mistake
[18:02] <Coolternet> yea i know :) but can i use root acces when i need to modify my webpage ?
[18:02] <ardchoille> thufir_: he previously stated that sudo works
[18:02] <ardchoille> Coolternet: yes, use sudo when you need to access it
[18:02] <thufir_> ardchoille: I thought he'd said that it worked with sudo.
[18:03] <Westz> What packages are necessary to get an Asus 1215n or an Intel 6230 wireless/bluetooth combo card connected to the internet
[18:03] <Westz> *?
[18:03] <ardchoille> thufir_: he's trying to work around sudo instead of using it. I'm trying to show him that sudo will do what he needs but he's making things more difficult for himself
[18:03] <Coolternet> how...
[18:03]  * thufir_ scratches his head.
[18:03] <ardchoille> Coolternet: if you understand how sudo works you will see that it will allow you to do what you're asking
[18:04] <thufir_> Coolternet: don't use root.  use sudo.  problem solved..
[18:04] <ubuntu-help> Hey guys.. I have an old php 5.3 install... I just installed php 5.4.3 via apt php5 -v shows its there... how to I remove or tell ubuntu to use the php5 install? - Lucid install.
[18:04] <Westz> my ethernet connection isn't showing up at all. as if i never plugged it in. it works perfectly in wondoze.
[18:04] <ardchoille> thufir_: thank you :)
[18:04] <gatuus> Coolternet: Read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[18:04] <Westz> and the 6230 card isn't active. no drivers whatsoever.
[18:05] <thufir_> Westz: you need to see if the card is detected or not.  is it built into the mb? do you just have the one NIC?
[18:05] <ardchoille> gatuus: very good link there
[18:06] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  can you please *pastebin*   the output of apt-cache policy php5  again PASTEBIN please
[18:06] <gordonjcp> thufir_: sounds like it's installed but not running for some reason
[18:06] <thufir_> Westz: sounds like you have two nics.  one built-in, one which you added.
[18:06] <Tomwq> Hi
[18:07] <thufir_> gordonjcp: yea, I wonder whether he needs to modprobl.
[18:07] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/qaLXFyT8
[18:07] <Westz> thufir_, yes. one is a mini ci-e card, one is the built in ethernet
[18:07] <Westz> but neither works
[18:07] <gordonjcp> thufir_: yeah.  Does it show up in ps ax | grep pulse?
[18:07] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  what about     dpkg-query -l | awk '/php/ {print $2}'
[18:08] <thufir_> Westz: not sure the details, but modprob can show you which modules the kernel loads.  you might need to add some modules and reboot.
[18:08] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/5CxsqCa6
[18:08] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  pastes are not showing up try http://paste.ubuntu.com/ please
[18:09] <bobweaver> could be my connection
[18:09] <thufir_> gordonjcp: yes, it shows in ps ax | grep pulse:    1403 ?        S<l    0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[18:09] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262406/
[18:09] <Kireji> ubuntu do I have to reboot after updating "linux-server"? (running Lucid)
[18:09] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  sudo apt-get install php5
[18:10] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   then restart services or reboot
[18:10] <thufir_> Westz: this might help: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[18:11] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  this should put you up to the ppa that you have installed (ondrej)
[18:12] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  aka 5.4.6-2~lucid+1 0
[18:12] <thufir_> Westz: actually, not, nm.
[18:14] <thufir_> gordonjcp: is pulseaudio working correctly, do you think?
[18:15] <blackhole> help me how to restore boot creen on ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> !details > blackhole
[18:17] <Westz> thufir_: any ideas? i just popped a USB wireless card in and it's working, so i can download packages, but i don't know what i need; this laptop has only ever known windoze 7
[18:17] <sesshomaru> hello, is there a way to downmix my audio output to monoaural?
[18:18] <Odra> Hey, I seem to have a problem with ubuntu/gtk
[18:18] <blackhole> i just installed plymouth and choose a boot screen themes but nothing happen and the color display is light blue and some text
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> Westz, The channel asks that you spell OS correctly using a misspell of windows is not really appreciated.
[18:18] <Odra> If Present() won't deiconify a window on ubuntu, whose fault is it?
[18:18] <urlwolf> how would you debug this x crash (.xsession-errors) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262414/
[18:19] <bobweaver> blackhole,   you want to change to a different plymoth ?
[18:19] <diverdude> i have installed a program i would like to run when the system boots. How can i make it do that?
[18:19] <pbuckley> upstart
[18:19] <blackhole> bobweaver, yah..
[18:19] <pbuckley>  /etc/rc?.d/
[18:19] <Odra> diverdude: Startup applications?
[18:19] <pbuckley>  /etc/rc.local
[18:19] <bobweaver> blackhole,  ok there is to things to do open terminal
[18:19] <blackhole> bobweaver, and then
[18:20] <bobweaver> blackhole,  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[18:20] <bobweaver> pick the one that you want then .....
[18:20] <Westz> HA. ##ubuntu is almost as bad as #arch now.... actually, they'll probably be able to handle this better...
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> diverdude, You can add things to startup applications would this work for you?
[18:21] <bobweaver> blackhole,  after that is done do   sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymouth
[18:21] <bobweaver> blackhole,  make sure you match them up then .......
[18:21] <tryy3> is there anyway i can check the internet connection/speed from ssh? (in ubuntu)
[18:21] <bobweaver> blackhole,  then  ....        sudo update-initramfs -u
[18:22] <blackhole> bobweaver, how about to restore it back to original boot screen
[18:22] <bobweaver> blackhole,  then you are good to go
[18:22] <bobweaver> blackhole,  pick Ubuntu . I will take screenshot plz hold
[18:22] <blackhole> bobweaver, ok thanks man
[18:24] <bobweaver> blackhole,  see   http://imagebin.org/231018   make sure that both text and default are set to *Ubuntu*   just pick the number that corasonds to Ubuntu in my case in the screen shot it is 2
[18:25] <thufir_> Westz: all I know is that modprobe can fix this for you.  if you restate your question, a more knowledgeable person may help.
[18:25] <bobweaver> Westz,  do you have internet connection at all ?
[18:26] <msangi> i am having a problem with my modem, it keeps disconnecting at night and after some google-fu, nothing is popping out as a solution. may I please get some help. here is the portion of syslog relating to this error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262432/
[18:26] <Westz> bobweaver: not through the default hardware, i have a USB card from my neighbor attached for downloading packages, but that's it
[18:26] <blackhole> bobweaver, thanks man u save my day hehehe
[18:26] <Westz> *usb wifi card
[18:26] <diverdude> wilee-nilee: sure, isn't it possible to do like apache does? Like have the /etc/init.d/apache start | stop | restart ?
[18:27] <bobweaver> Westz,  Ok cool please open your terminal and enter in     lspci -vnn  && lsmod       then PASTEBIN that  you can use paste.ubuntu.com plz the bot will tell you more
[18:27] <bobweaver> !pastebin | Westz
[18:28] <bobweaver> diverdude,  that is old and not used anymore .   try    sudo services apache2 restart
[18:28] <diverdude> bobweaver: ahh ok. can i also do that for haproxy?
[18:28] <bobweaver> not sure diverdude
[18:29] <diverdude> bobweaver: how can it be done?
[18:29] <bobweaver> diverdude,  not sure . but could you explain what you are doing ?
[18:30] <diverdude> bobweaver: i just have this program installed called haproxy which is a load balancer, and in order to start it i need to do $haproxy -f path/to/config
[18:30] <Westz> jeez, i hate comcast. they keep wanting to installmonitoring software on my computer, and i keep having to switch my card's default DNS to google's
[18:30] <diverdude> bobweaver: but i want it to run automatically instead when computer booots
[18:31] <bobweaver> diverdude,  sudo services          controls all services that are running on the machine   like  if I was running tor instead of  /etc/init.d/tor stop   I use  sudo services tor stop
[18:31] <diverdude> bobweaver: ah ok. so somehow i need to register haproxy as a service
[18:31] <PaSsI_> switching between my firefox tab takes much time any solutions to make it work faster?
[18:31] <thufir_> what line do I put in sources so that I can do this?  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonfree
[18:32] <bobweaver> oh diverdude  I am sorry I know lamp but not that well would ask maybe in #ubuntu-server   if you get no help here
[18:32] <diverdude> bobweaver: its not lamp
[18:32] <bobweaver> diverdude,  see :)
[18:33] <Westz> bobweaver, pastebin.com/76BNSsT1
[18:33] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: seems working now jus tneed the suhosing to work :)
[18:33] <ubuntu-help> thanks.
[18:33] <ubuntu-help> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20100525+lfs/suhosin.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20100525+lfs/suhosin.so: undefined symbol: core_globals_id in Unknown on line 0 PHP 5.4.6-2~lucid+1 (cli) (built: Aug 30 2012 14:28:54)
[18:33] <msangi> hey, could i please get some help, got a modem problem which keeps disconnecting. here is the log of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262432/
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> msangi, If someone knows they will probably answer so crack a cold one and enjoy the time here. ;)
[18:35] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  did you upgrade ?  and also did you restart php ? also lets see   apt-cache policy php5-suhosin       Plz use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <bobweaver> Westz,  I can not see that paste just tries to load but does not. Please use Paste.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <Westz> I'll try that, one moment
[18:37] <bobweaver> thanks Westz
[18:37] <msangi> wilee-nilee: ok, have some vodka in the freezer for just an occasion. thanks
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> msangi, hehe that will work. ;)
[18:38] <Westz> no, thank you. paste.ubuntu.com/1262450
[18:39] <kyubotsu> ubuntu doesn't quite advocate for use of drugs and alcohol though.. keep it family friendly folks
[18:41] <kyubotsu> on a side note.. you can be more "social" @ #ubuntu-offtopic if you insist
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, I thought he needed to clean some hardware. ;)
[18:42] <Westz> ROFL "clean some hardware" just remember, there's no shell in which to enter "apt-get install new-liver"
[18:42] <msangi> will do kyubotsu, have to open the office tomorrow anyway.
[18:43] <Tomwq> I have a question, is the Nvidia 6100 supported on 12.04?
[18:43] <Tomwq> Geforce*
[18:43] <KM0201> Westz: lol, i don't know what that meant, but i chuckled
[18:43] <bekks> !hcl | Tomwq
[18:43] <KM0201> TomW2: i would think so... I had an nvidia 7x that works quite well.
[18:44] <KM0201> also had a 5900 in another machine, that worked flawlessly.
[18:44] <PaSsI_> please tell me about virtual box
[18:44] <Tomwq> I have to boot the computer in nomodeset
[18:44] <PaSsI_> i want to install win 7 on it
[18:44] <KM0201> Tomwq: did you install the nvidia driver?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> PaSsI_, ask in #vbox this is ubuntu support
[18:45] <Tomwq> one sec let me check
[18:45] <KM0201> PaSsI_: you'll need to install virtualbox, then get a copy of Win 7.. then install it there just like you would on another computer
[18:45] <msangi> Tomwq: try installing the driver from additional drivers. should work well enough
[18:45] <PaSsI_> KM0201, thanks a lot
[18:45] <Tomwq> uh what exactly is Xorg.conf.d
[18:45] <PaSsI_> wilee-nilee, sure i d keep that in mind
[18:46] <KM0201> Tomwq: where are you getting that?
[18:46] <Tomwq> I was looking through the forums and a gude talks about xorg
[18:46] <bobweaver> Westz,  can we see    rfkill list all  && uname -r \
[18:46] <bobweaver> bargh
[18:47] <bobweaver> Westz,  can we see    rfkill list all  && uname -r
[18:47] <KM0201> ok, first..don't try to ask questions here and then talk about what you're seeing on forums, unless they directly relate... quite often, when you're looking in multiple places for an answer, you start trying "everything" and you can't fix a problem should it arise
[18:47] <Westz> sure, give me a moment. this wireless card is 802.11b
[18:47] <KM0201> Tomwq: first, go to the additional drivers utility.. and open it
[18:47] <Tomwq> okay
[18:48] <KM0201> in the additional driver manager, do you see the nvidia driver available? (there's two or 3 i think)
[18:49] <Tomwq> yes I see it
[18:49] <Westz> paste.ubuntu.com/1262467
[18:49] <Westz> for bobweaver
[18:49] <KM0201> Tomwq: i think one of them is "recommended"
[18:49] <KM0201> highlight it and install it
[18:49] <Tomwq> I will try to install that
[18:49] <Tomwq> thanks
[18:49] <KM0201> i'm not 100% sure this will fix your nomodeset prob, but it hopefully will
[18:49] <Tomwq> I have one question, is unity going to be able to run once I get the right drivers?
[18:50] <KM0201> Tomwq: after you do that, you'll need to reboot, then configure the driver in nvidia-settings
[18:50] <KM0201> Tomwq: i would certainly think so
[18:50] <bobweaver> Westz,  what is  the output of     uname -r
[18:50] <Tomwq> what is the terminal command for the nvidia-settings?
[18:50] <jordanm> nvidia-settings
[18:51] <KM0201> Tomwq: install the driver, let ti install, then reboot, then there will be a gui tool for nvidia-settings.. you don't have to run it from command line
[18:51] <Westz> besides the 2.6.32-38-generic
[18:51] <Darkasakerionz> Hi!, is there any way to connect a machine tought openvpn in a remote location, and listen a port tought the server's openvpn ip?
[18:51] <Westz> scratch the "besides that"
[18:51] <Tomwq> ok thanks for the help!
[18:51] <KM0201> don't make stuff harder than it needs to be
[18:51] <Westz> do i need to update the kernel then?
[18:52] <msangi> Tomwq: when you install the driver from the additional driver utility, it will run the nvidia-settings command and create a xorg config file. so just install the driver.
[18:52] <KM0201> true, but if you want to configure it further (i imagine most do).. then you'd use the nvidia-settings tool
[18:53] <bobweaver> thanks Westz  , ok this is what I see. you are going to need cmpat wireless to get this things going so the first things is to install the headers for you kerenl    so    sudo apt-get install linux-headers-[uname\ -r]     then tell use when that is installed thanks
[18:55] <Westz> beautiful, i'm running that as we speak.
[18:55] <escott> Darkasakerionz, probably but you have to explain what you want to do more clearly
[18:56] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:56] <Darkasakerionz> escott, I have 1 root-server and 1 vps, and I want a server running in my root-server, but listenning with the ip of my vps
[18:56] <bobweaver> Westz,  now open a new tab in the terminal  shift+ctrl+t    then enter in  cd ~/Desktop/  &&  wget http://www.orbit-lab.org/kernel/compat-wireless-2.6-stable/v2.6.32/compat-wireless-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[18:57] <escott> Darkasakerionz, set up an ssh tunnel, or reverse tunnel and bind it to that port
[18:57] <ohzie> Hello, everyone
[18:57] <ohzie> Is there a way to get ubuntu to not group up my windows in alt+tab?
[18:57] <Darkasakerionz> escott, but, I wanna to redirect all the ports
[18:57] <forgotmynick> hello
[18:57] <escott> Darkasakerionz, ok, multiple tunnels then
[18:58] <msangi> KM0201: i didn't know that, i might want to change a couple of things. thanks
[18:58] <thufir_> if mplayer is saying:  Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available.  see https://gist.github.com/3841172, then I need to add non free to sources?  what line do I add to sources to get mpg123?
[18:58] <Westz> wonderful, running
[18:59] <forgotmynick> i've changed my graphics card and when i boot in, i can see the ubuntu login screen in the full 1920x1080 resolution but after entering the password, it just shows the background, not gnome. I can't right click but the mouse does move and caps lock works. There is no disk activity and I can access tty. Please advise?
[18:59] <msangi> also, could someone point me to an opencv channel. got some ridiculous compilation errors that i need help with.
[18:59] <Westz> okay, got compat
[18:59] <BrianBlaze> did you ever know that you're my hero?
[19:01] <root_> hello!!
[19:01] <root_> can anyone tell me what kind of chat is this?
[19:01] <ardchoille> root_: ubuntu support chanel
[19:01] <jordanm> ubuntu community support
[19:01] <escott> forgotmynick, more than likely the compositor isn't working because you dont have GLX try unity-2d or gnome-panel instead of unity/gnome-shell
[19:02] <kyubotsu> !topic | root_
[19:02] <root_> ???????
[19:02] <BrianBlaze> lol
[19:03] <bobweaver> Westz,  cd Desktop  && tar -xf compat-wireless-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2 && cd  compat-wireless-<IP_ADDRESS>   &&  ./scripts/driver-select           then      make    then   sudo make install
[19:03] <bobweaver> Westz,  that should take care of you ethernet
[19:04] <forgotmynick> escott i'm in, thank you
[19:05] <Westz> aaaaah, compiling packages.... oh how i missed you...
[19:07] <acolytetojippity> morning folks.  I have a quick question, does anyone here use the Cinammon desktop environment?
[19:07] <bekks> acolytetojippity: It isnt supported on Ubuntu.
[19:08] <acolytetojippity> really?  it has a PPA and such, and te cinammon website has a Ubuntu download section
[19:09] <acolytetojippity> I was mostly looking to find out how to install something from a PPA.  I think i added the PPA correctly, and ran sudo apt-get update
[19:09] <bekks> acolytetojippity: It is provided by a PPA, which isnt part of the official Ubuntu distribution.
[19:09] <acolytetojippity> but past that...i have no idea what to do -_-'
[19:09] <bekks> acolytetojippity: So if you need support for it, please ask the authors of the PPA.
[19:10] <trism> acolytetojippity: make sure the ppa has packages for your ubuntu version
[19:10] <john_doe_jr> I'd like to download ubuntu 11.04 server…how do I do that?
[19:10] <acolytetojippity> @trism it does
[19:11] <jrib> john_doe_jr: you realize support for 11.04 is about to end?
[19:11] <trism> acolytetojippity: how did you add it?
[19:11] <slav3_kitten> quick, stupid question. when in cli trying to move a file that starts with a "-" how would you accomplish that
[19:11] <trism> acolytetojippity: also can you point out the ppa link so I can look?
[19:11] <jrib> slav3_kitten: mv -- -file foobar
[19:11] <bobweaver> Westz,  after compat is done you can try this for your wireless  sudo rmmod rtl8187    && sudo ifconfig wlan0 down &&  sudo modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=1  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up    If wlan0 is the correct thing  check with ifconfig
[19:12] <slav3_kitten> thanks jrib how did i miss that in the man page
[19:12] <acolytetojippity> @trism sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[19:12] <acolytetojippity> and you can find it at...
[19:12] <Westz> wlan0 doesn't even exist in if or iwconfig
[19:12] <Westz> as of yet
[19:12] <jrib> slav3_kitten: not sure it's in there :)
[19:12] <trism> acolytetojippity: thanks I can find it from that
[19:12] <bekks> Westz: ifconfig -a
[19:12] <slav3_kitten> oh because it says nothing in there about it lol
[19:12] <Westz> my bad, it does now
[19:12] <acolytetojippity> ok, cool.  I'm brand new to all this
[19:13] <trism> acolytetojippity: which ubuntu version are you on?
[19:13] <Westz> oh, nevermind, that's the USB wireless card
[19:13] <jrib> slav3_kitten: I'm actually not sure where that is documented
[19:13] <acolytetojippity> 12.04 LTS
[19:13] <slav3_kitten> jrib, it's something that really should be documented
[19:14] <slav3_kitten> guess -- is the options escape sequence
[19:14] <trism> acolytetojippity: alright, looks like it is there, how about: apt-cache policy cinnamon
[19:15] <acolytetojippity> what are you looking for with that command?
[19:15] <trism> acolytetojippity: Candidate: some_version_here with a ppa url below
[19:16] <acolytetojippity> cinnamon:
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>   Installed: (none)
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>   Candidate: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1~precise1
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>   Version table:
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>      1.6.1-0ubuntu1~precise1 0
[19:16] <FloodBot1> acolytetojippity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
[19:16] <bobweaver> !pastebin | acolytetojippity
[19:16] <Westz> still nada with the eth0
[19:16] <bobweaver> Westz,  reboot
[19:16] <slav3_kitten> many thanks however
[19:16] <trism> acolytetojippity: yep that looks fine, remember pastebin in the future, I imagine you would just: sudo apt-get install cinnamon; but I have never used the software myself
[19:16] <Westz> already did, bobweaver
[19:16] <bobweaver> Westz,  then come back here for more de-bugging
[19:17] <acolytetojippity> oops.  sorry folks.
[19:17] <Westz> i already rebooted, right after i made compat
[19:17] <bobweaver> Oo  Westz  lets see      lsmod  | pastebinit
[19:17] <Westz> and installed it
[19:17] <bobweaver> Westz,  pastebinit will auto paste stuff for you on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <wlcosta> paste.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <wlcosta> WOW
[19:18] <wlcosta> just
[19:18] <wlcosta> WOW
[19:18] <gordonjcp> wlcosta: hm?
[19:18] <Westz> pastebin.com/yn0ANaj8
[19:19] <acolytetojippity> ok, i'll try it out.  thanks folks!
[19:20] <Westz> just FYI, making and installing compat returned a few errors. but I don't have them logged, i don't think
[19:22] <bobweaver> Westz,  try this   sudo rmmod rtl8187     && sudo modprobe iwlagn    then please run ifconfig    to see if wlan0 or ra0 or whatever wireless is. Is it there now ?
[19:23] <Westz> give me a few minutes, i'm on a computer other than the one with the problem, and it's becoming a pain to pass commands back and forth >.<
[19:23] <thufir_>  if mplayer is saying:  Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available.  see https://gist.github.com/3841172, then I need to add non free to sources?  what line do I add to sources to get mpg123?  how do I add apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras?section=universe?section=multiverse  ?
[19:24] <rbennacer> does it require a reboot after installing a virtual linux image from the apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:24] <rbennacer> ?
[19:25] <bekks> rbennacer: Sure.
[19:26] <ssta> any time you change kernel, you need a reboot
[19:26] <ssta> (not sure a kernel change is needed as often as we get one, but...)
[19:26] <rbennacer> so it is just a different name for a kernel pathc
[19:26] <bekks> rbennacer: No.
[19:26] <rbennacer> patch
[19:26] <rbennacer> ?
[19:26] <bekks> A new kernel image is not a patch. It is a new image.
[19:26] <ssta> it's a kernel for a virtual machine
[19:27] <Zta> Anyone? http://askubuntu.com/questions/196896/how-to-read-default-key-value-with-dconf-or-gsettings
[19:28] <bluebears5> How would I install this? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[19:29] <bluebears5> I'm not sure how to install newer drivers. I'm currently flying Bodhi, so I'm not sure if it has updated drivers or not.
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> bluebears5, This is ubuntu support.
[19:30] <bluebears5> Bodhi is based upon Ubuntu.
[19:31] <trism> Zta: usually I just read the schemas in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas, but I think dconf-editor will also tell you
[19:31] <Westz> bobweaver, "module rtl8187 does not exist in /proc/modules"
[19:31] <Zta> trism: the editor will tell me, but I'd very much like to script this.
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> bluebears5, That does not matter try #bodhilinux  ;)
[19:31] <bobweaver> What Oo  it says that it is there in lsmod please try modinfo rtl8187
[19:32] <bobweaver> is it there ?
[19:32] <bobweaver> maybe I got the name wrong ?
[19:32] <bobweaver> idts though
[19:32] <Westz> no. wait a second, it was my fault
[19:32] <thufir_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats says "click here" to install restricted, but that doesn't work for me...how do I get the link to work?  or, install restricted?
[19:32] <Westz> i did the first one you sent but not the next one, give me a moment
[19:32] <TheRealZeus> Hey guys, I am trying to run a game from the steam launcher. The game is called Garry's Mod. For some reason wine does not run it properly. It zooms in for the game but all i see is the desktop background. Help?
[19:33] <trism> Zta: I don't know that there are any command line tools that will print the default value, though the schemas are just xml so you could write something using gsettings to query the value and then parse the schemas (or have gsettings dump the values)
[19:33] <bobweaver> +1 trijntje
[19:34] <thufir_> nm
[19:34] <bobweaver> trism, *
[19:34] <Westz> no, i still get the same response from "sudo rmmod rtl8187     && sudo modprobe iwlagn"
[19:34] <TheRealZeus> Hey guys, I am trying to run a game from the steam launcher. The game is called Garry's Mod. For some reason wine does not run it properly. It zooms in for the game but all i see is the desktop background. Help?
[19:34] <TheRealZeus> so know one knows hpw to fix
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, Use the terminal install with the correct desktop in the command
[19:35] <thufir_> wilee-nilee: lol, yeah, errr, um, I didn't read that part, which was the part I was looking for.  pardon.
[19:36] <thufir_> I thought I had to edit sources
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, hehe easy mistake wikis can be rather confusing anyway. ;)
[19:36] <Westz> bobweaver, pastebin.com/JpyMCPAZ
[19:37] <bobweaver> Westz,  lets see lsmod again maybe now is a good time to tell you what is going on or in other words what we are doing.  In linux we use model aka "drivers" in other worlds.   so the mod(driver) that you have loaded is the wrong one ! aka rtl8187 you need the iwlagn    when we do the command lsmod this means ls = list  and mod = models or drivers.  so ls+mod = list all mods (drivers) running.  sudo rmmod  removes the mod  sudo modprobe  adds
[19:37] <bobweaver>  a new mod ,
[19:37] <thufir_> bobweaver: I thought they were modules and not models?  ;)
[19:37] <bobweaver> my spelling today deserves a d-
[19:38] <bobweaver> yes thufir_  correct
[19:38] <bobweaver> thanks for the edit
[19:38] <thufir_> although models would be a change of pace..
[19:38] <bobweaver> lol
[19:38] <Westz> hehe
[19:38] <Westz> i know a bit, i used to run arch, but it's been a LONG time
[19:39] <bobweaver> Westz,  what I am unsure of is in you paste of lspci -nn it says that your cards are not authenticated I have never seen this before
[19:39] <bobweaver> sorry Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:39] <bobweaver> that ^^
[19:40] <bobweaver> I am un-sure what that means but I do know that you have the wrong mod installed
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> bobweaver, your great help bumps your grade to a pass.
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:41] <thufir_> in looking at:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mp3   I don't like totem, but that's the best way to ensure that mp3's work?  while I'm waiting on downloads, how can I test sound, speakers, pulseaudio, etc?
[19:41] <Westz> pastebin.com/G66bCdss for lsmod
[19:42] <thufir_> Westz: I wonder if authentication refers to that, err, "secure computing" or something which microsoft touts?
[19:42] <Zta> trism, hmm... how do I make gsettings dump the schema values?
[19:42] <bobweaver> afk, 5 minutes (client )
[19:42] <thufir_> Westz: security built into the motherboard to prevent mucking with the OS...?
[19:42] <Westz> i hope not, my wireless card is aftermarket from Intel...
[19:42] <adamsobotka> +i
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, I always use vlc personally pretty much all the codecs needed in open source are in it.
[19:43] <thufir_> but your wired NIC, is that built-in?
[19:43] <Westz> yeah
[19:43] <thufir_> wilee-nilee: thanks
[19:43] <thufir_> Westz: I think you have the wrong module. but that's just a guess.
[19:43] <Westz> i don't see why it's this big a pain. i've heard of people running ubuntu on this laptop before. i feel like it'sbecause i'm using 10.04
[19:44] <Westz> it'd probably work out of box in 12.04
[19:44] <thufir_> Westz: oooh, yeah, don't do that!  why are you doing that!?
[19:44] <adamsobotka> Can i anyway make a desktop shortcut of icons in dock in unity ?? I want have shortcut on desktop of Home folder,can i do it anyway please ??
[19:44] <Westz> it's LTS and actually uses gnome. i like the version of banshee it uses
[19:44] <theadmin> Westz: 12.04 uses GNOME as well (with Unity as the shell)
[19:45] <Westz> i thought it was using joli?
[19:45] <theadmin> Westz: It was using "joli"? That's not any desktop I know.
[19:45] <Westz> shoot, it's been SO LONG since i've used ubuntu...
[19:45] <Westz> i thought jolicloud was the new DM they used
[19:46] <thufir_> Westz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  I use lxde.  be aware that I'm also mucking about with codecs and drivers precisely because I don't want to use whatever GUI regulular ubuntu uses.
[19:46] <theadmin> Westz: http://ubuntu.com/tour -- you can see the generic look of the modern Ubuntu desktop here
[19:46] <Westz> not a fan of lxde
[19:46] <Westz> i'd prefer openbox if anything other than gnome
[19:47] <thufir_> Westz: that minimal cd allows that easily.
[19:47] <Westz> hmm. i might do that. it'd be less work than this