[00:00] <ErKaN> hahahaha BarkingFish its ubuntu not me
[00:00] <ErKaN> http://imageshack.us/f/692/photo0145j.jpg/
[00:00] <Josh__> ok I found that usb trasnfer program on the burned cd. I used it to make a bootable installable version on my usb stick, same issue.
[00:00] <ErKaN> guys anyone have problem like that use set gfxpayload=text OS edit, instead of set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode
[00:01] <ErKaN> *at OS edit*
[00:01] <terr> Gentoo64: I think that machine is dead.
[00:01] <SetiAmon> Yo
[00:01] <alkafoo> Josh__: read what ubottu msg'd you
[00:02] <terr> Gentoo64: I plugged in a monitor which I know worked last nite and I do not hear the beep and I do not see the KB lights flash.  Nothing happens on the monitor either.
[00:02] <johwil> Anyone with a woking TASCAM us144 mkII external modem? I can't get mine to work with Ubuntu.
[00:02] <linxeh> alkafoo: well, everything I've tried for single user mode is doing the same as it attempting to boot normally. it hangs at mounting the filesystems (it says clean, then complains about the network being down and not being able to mount a samba share)
[00:03] <Josh__> I did not get a message
[00:03] <Josh__> I'm in a browser irc chat.
[00:04] <johwil> Anyone with a woking TASCAM us144 mkII external sound card? I can't get mine to work with Ubuntu.
[00:04] <winut> maybe you need medibuntu
[00:04] <winut> firmware
[00:04] <alkafoo> didn't even know tascam made modems
[00:04] <Polah> Josh__: md5sum your ISO to verify it is complete
[00:04] <Polah> !md5sum | Josh__
[00:04] <ErKaN> thanks BarkingFish jwrigley, tc night
[00:04] <Josh__> ok
[00:05] <Polah> Is ubottu dead?
[00:05] <coz_> Josh__,     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[00:05] <yeastwars> The last time I installed Ubuntu a few months ago, it didn't ask me what packages I wanted to install. Is there an installer that has this feature? I don't want gnome, or half of the default packages. Removing them is not an option since they'll have polluted /etc by then.
[00:05] <Polah> Josh__: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[00:05] <johwil> winut, My fault I meant sound card.. Mea Culpa
[00:05] <alkafoo> not as of a few minutes ago
[00:05] <Polah> yeastwars: You can get the minimal ISO and build from the bottom up.
[00:05] <Josh__> ok
[00:06] <winut> winut, i knew what you meant anyways! lol
[00:06] <linxeh> alkafoo: recovery mode does exactly the same too
[00:06] <winut> derr, thats me! lol
[00:06] <alkafoo> linxeh: maybe the networks are down
[00:06] <yeastwars> Polah: ah, you mean this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:06] <linxeh> alkafoo: I'm sat in the server room :)
[00:06] <linxeh> the network is down though yes, it hasn't got that far in the boot stage - it should just skip that mount though
[00:07] <linxeh> It says "init: ureadahead-other main process (993) terminated with status 4"
[00:07] <linxeh> and simiar again with 994
[00:07] <linxeh> sorry, 883 and 884
[00:07] <winut> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-usb-us122l
[00:07] <Edward454> hey guys! other problem i just found... i chatting on empathy and i dont have the option to send video or calls... any ideas
[00:07] <w30> Unity's top panel is not aware of the LibreOffice file,edit, etc. Is this a feature or a bug? All it does is put up its name when it's in focus.
[00:08] <joint> use pidgin
[00:08] <alkafoo> linxeh: networks as in the software and/or hardware on the machine in question
[00:08] <Polah> yeastwars: Yes. You'll get a minimal interface to go through basic installation steps and if you choose to install nothing you'll get a basic text interface, no X server or anything much beyond what is required for the system to run like that. You can install though apt-get or aptitude after to get what you want
[00:08] <terr> alkafoo: well I think the gigabyte baord is dead.  I have three Tyan Tiger 230T S2507T MB's here.  Two look like they have never been used.  These have a pair of PGA370 sockets.
[00:08] <yeastwars> Polah: great, thank you
[00:09] <xasp> Edward454: about your suspend problem, could be a bios related bug, but don't take that for a fact... just pointing in a possible direction
[00:09] <Polah> yeastwars: You'll won't be able to create a USB with that using Ubuntu's build in startup USB creator, just so you know. unetbootin can do it though
[00:09] <linxeh> alkafoo: the hardware networks are up, the network boot bios gets given the correct IP for the machine, and I can ping it (presumably because the bios set it up)
[00:09] <alkafoo> terr: that's too bad, and nice
[00:09] <joint> just search for any app using the search feature.. then drag and drop any icon into the unity bar
[00:09] <yeastwars> Polah: I'm burning it anyway (although it almost seems like a waste given the size)
[00:09] <winut> johwil: can you do without digital in/out?
[00:09] <linxeh> alkafoo: but yes, the network isnt up on this machine as far as linux goes- it didnt get that far in the boot
[00:09] <Josh__> ok I checked my md5sum and everything says ok
[00:09] <xasp> Edward454: and if you do choose to upgrade bios at your own risk be careful
[00:09] <linxeh> if I press ctrl-alt-del it does a bunch of other stuff and reboots fine
[00:10] <Edward454> thanks xasp... the suspend problem it used to work fine on win7 its with ubuntyu that it freeses
[00:10] <Polah> yeastwars: Everything (including installer components) needs to be downloaded mind. So if you have a slow connection or bandwidth limits you might want to keep an eye out if you plan to install a lot of things.
[00:11] <johwil> winut, No I medd all ports: Audio in/out MIDI in/out Digital sound in/out aso
[00:11] <winut> looks like thats not possible, only analog
[00:11] <terr> alkafoo: I just realized I inserted the memory incorrectly... should have pushed both ends but it wouldn't go so I did one end then the other.
[00:12] <Josh__> @Polah I checked my md5sum and everything came back ok
[00:12] <terr> alkafoo: if there is no memeory I think the bios is suppose to beep somehow - right?
[00:12] <winut> you could use it with virtualbox and usb passthrough
[00:12] <alkafoo> terr: doing one end then the other can still work
[00:12] <winut> but that would be almost pointless imo
[00:12] <winut> other option is wine and usb patch
[00:13] <winut> but neither would be a perfect solution
[00:13] <terr> alkafoo: if I knew if the bios gives some sort of beep code if no ram then I'd be further ahead.
[00:13] <winut> if you could put up with analog and maybe use virtualbox for the occasional digital out, maybe that would be ok?
[00:13] <johwil> winut, ODD . andds Bad I bougth it. and it works perfectly on windows
[00:14] <Josh__> anybody know why my installation is not starting?
[00:14] <terr> alkafoo: I cna yank out that old MB and install one of the tyan's.
[00:14] <brokencodes> terr, if you press power, does it die immediately, or do you have to hold power for 5 seconds?
[00:14] <winut> yeah, linux support is not guaranteed as an afterthought!
[00:14] <johwil> winut, usb-patch waths that?
[00:15] <terr> brokencodes: I think it died immediately.  I was more brutal and have an exteension cord with an on/off so I flipped off the cord!
[00:15] <Josh__> anybody?
[00:15] <winut> it would be for wine apps only tho and i'm not even sure it would work
[00:15] <terr> brokencodes: on power up I have to press the front paqnel button and as I recall it comes up instantly
[00:15] <brokencodes> I need to know the answer to my question (of course if you remove power, the computer will stop fuctioning, otherwise we would have a solution to the global power crisis)
[00:15] <winut> wine is a windows layer
[00:16] <johwil> winut, Can I use the Windows driver as  I do with my n etwork card?
[00:16] <linxeh> alkafoo: ok, I set the init to be /bin/sh, I guess I'm ok now :o
[00:16] <winut> however, virtualbox running xp would work
[00:16] <Josh__> isn't this the help channel?  I'm asking for help.....
[00:17] <winut> but not the ose version, as this doesn't have usb support
[00:17] <brokencodes> Josh__, we cannot anticipate all of the possible problems without a smidgent of details
[00:17] <Josh__> ok i'll go through them again.
[00:17] <winut> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[00:17] <johwil> winut, How do I set up a virtualbox?
[00:18] <brokencodes> I just friggin got here Josh__
[00:18] <johwil> winut, lol
[00:18] <root1> weeee
[00:18] <root1> \o/
[00:19] <Josh__> I made a bootable usb drive using the utility from the installation cd. neither the cd nor the usb drive will install when I boot them. All I get is the copy right info then nothing happens.  I just ran an md5sum check and it's all ok
[00:19] <winut> johwil, i would accept defeat on all outputs and stick with anaolg for the most part
[00:19] <widewake> could someone help update my java version, i dl'ed the file and following steps but cant get it to work.
[00:19] <winut> do you have any external hard drives on usb?
[00:19] <brokencodes> Josh__, whomade your motherboard, and when?
[00:19] <winut> if so, you need a usb1 hub i think
[00:20] <Josh__> asus and i think 2007-08
[00:20] <johwil> winut, yes bettter to have all analog ports working..
[00:20] <winut> better than none! lol
[00:20] <brokencodes> Josh__, please check that you have USB Legacy support enabled, and if so, try with it disabled
[00:21] <Josh__> ok. but would that effect the cd?
[00:21] <brokencodes> Josh__, if its alreadydisabled,try enabling it
[00:21] <brokencodes> no
[00:21] <johwil> winut, do you want me to do a lsusb?
[00:21] <winut> if you desperately must use digital, just load a windows session in virtualbox
[00:21] <brokencodes> it will allow your pc to use different parameters for reading USB devices
[00:21] <abulubah> èpoque
[00:21] <brokencodes> Josh__, sorry, my spacebar is beginning to fail...
[00:21] <terr> brokencodes: (offtopic) we might have a solution to the global energy problem.  Check Andrea Rossi e-cat.  Breaks all known laws of phy sics but they've demoed it.
[00:22] <johwil> winut, I could do without digoital when on linux...
[00:22] <Josh__> ok i'll try it. but it doesn't work from the cd either. brb i'll see if that works
[00:22] <winut> johwil, ok thats good news, read this page and then you can see how to get basic sound with us144 -> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-usb-us122l
[00:23] <johwil> winut, Thanks a LOT!!!
[00:23] <winut> no problem, ill see if there is a more ubuntu specific guide
[00:24] <Superdave_> having trouble accessing ssh from outside my network. port id forwarded in my router, and it's perfectly fine inside. any ideas?
[00:24] <johwil> winut, Thnaks..
[00:28] <neoncat> hi 2 all
[00:28] <winut> you can get prebuilt alsa firmware from http://medibuntu.org/ or kxstudio kernel and drivers ppa https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa
[00:28] <winut> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/kernel/
[00:28] <terr> who's got the longest arms here?    I hate building puters.  Maybe someone can come over for a beer eh?
[00:29] <johwil> winut, prebuilt?
[00:29] <winut> i like kxstudio main because it has proper jack2 support
[00:29] <winut> johwil: you don't have to compile it
[00:30] <johwil> winut, aha
[00:30] <terr> Hmm as I recall I built a system on a tyan tiger in 1998.  Dual CPU and laoded with ram and raid 5 on 5x36GB hitachi SCSI drives.
[00:30] <johwil> I will try that, winut
[00:31] <Gentoo64> terr, building a new comp then?
[00:31] <winut> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315185
[00:31] <Superdave_> having trouble accessing ssh from outside my network. port id forwarded in my router, and it's perfectly fine inside. any ideas?
[00:31] <chaospsychex> omg trivium PWNS YOU!
[00:31] <terr> Gentoo64: seems like it.  looks like the Gigabyte is dead.  Wanna pop over for a beer?
[00:31] <terr> Gentoo64: LOL...
[00:31] <Gentoo64> alrght
[00:31] <Gentoo64> lol
[00:31] <winut> mm, site is down
[00:31] <unfuquitable> for hours i can't seem to be root to install theme in themes folder
[00:32] <unfuquitable> help
[00:32] <terr> Gentoo64: gawd my leg is itchy and my arm.    They could mind their own bloody business you'd think.
[00:32] <johwil> winut, when I  do a cat /proc/asound/cards the TASCAM is not not even there...
[00:33] <winut> i think this model must need usb1 mode only
[00:33] <winut> thats 12mbps
[00:33] <winut> usb2 is 480mbps
[00:34] <Gentoo64> terr, i find if you slowly squeeze them it helps. its supposed to make the poison sink in more though but i do it anway
[00:34] <terr> Gentoo64: there were 30,000 bees in my  yard this summer and I didn't get stung but Friday two bloody (now dead) wasps took me on!  I won.
[00:34] <brokencodes> I found tobacco helps the most
[00:35] <johwil> winut, is there any support for usb2 with ubuntu?
[00:35] <terr> Gentoo64: I hit them with a paint brush.  Paint was flying but it was the back yard and the grass doesn't care.
[00:35] <brokencodes> wtf do you mean usb2? do you mean EHCI?
[00:35] <Gentoo64> johwil, do you mean in a vm?
[00:35] <terr> Gentoo64: what those wasps don't know is that I have a bee suit.    We talk ubuntu mostly.
[00:36] <johwil> brokencodes, Gentoo64  I have a non working sound card on the usb2 port
[00:37] <terr> has anyone see goodnerd today?  He needs help with some c code
[00:37] <Gentoo64> johwil, well usb2 definately works
[00:37] <terr> paissad: how have you made out with the proxy?
[00:37] <johwil> terr, It doesnt't even get current.. it's dead....
[00:38] <brokencodes> johwil, real or virtual machine?
[00:38] <terr> johwil: if you liived n Calgary I'd give yuou a PCI-USB card.  I found a boc full today
[00:39] <johwil> Gentoo64,  are here any commands I could use for testing my usb2?
[00:39] <terr> johwil: if you liived n Calgary I'd give yuou a PCI-USB card.  I found a box full today
[00:39] <johwil> brokencodes, real
[00:39] <JRobinskY> anyone here
[00:39] <johwil> terr, thanks. Stockholm Sweden
[00:40] <terr> johwil: three (3) tyan dual processor MB's look like never even out of the box and a box full of PCI-USB cards.  never opened.  Tape is still on the envelopes
[00:40] <Gentoo64> johwil, unplug the card then plug it back in and run dmesg see if it says anything
[00:40] <JRobinskY> i need help
[00:40] <terr> johwil: my cousin lives in Huskavarna
[00:40] <JRobinskY> anyone please have time to help me, its prob easy
[00:40] <brokencodes> does anything else not fuction on that usb port? could be blown board fuse for the 5V supply
[00:40] <JRobinskY> im just a noob at linux
[00:40] <winut> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2009-September/021379.html
[00:41] <terr> JRobinskY: ask yer question
[00:41] <johwil> Gentoo64, it just blinked no indication of life..
[00:41] <terr> brokencodes: good point.  I've had to replace them on 4 layer boards!  Uggh!  I hate that!
[00:41] <winut> johwil: i think it only run in usb1 mode due to the firmware it uses
[00:42] <johwil> terr, Husqvarna? that is not very far from Stockhom
[00:42] <winut> thats whey it must be forced
[00:42] <JRobinskY> okay i had windows 7 x64 installed. I download the newest ubuntu. I chose the option to resize my partition and install ununtu and have it dual boot. well it installed corrected but now i have no option to buat to windows. It goes right to ubuntu
[00:43] <chaospsychex> then you fcked up,lol
[00:43] <JRobinskY> how do i fix it
[00:43] <johwil> winut, so it seeems
[00:43] <chaospsychex> 'sudo update-grub'
[00:43] <chaospsychex> see if it finds windows
[00:43] <terr> johwil: I'd gladly give you a PCI-USb card for help installing a MB.  Hmmm... atx.  I think I know what box I'll use.  Has a dead ATX board in it but much smaller box than the other one with the dead Gigabyte baord... if its dead that is.
[00:43] <JRobinskY> from term edit?
[00:43] <chaospsychex> you said you resized your partition?
[00:43] <chaospsychex> the windows partition?
[00:43] <johwil> what should  do to make it act as the usb2 it is? winut
[00:43] <JRobinskY> yes
[00:43] <JRobinskY> from 500 gig to 479
[00:43] <terr> johwil: I cna get a card to you likely by tomorrow.
[00:43] <chaospsychex> why?
[00:43] <chaospsychex> how big is your hdd?
[00:44] <winut> johwil: i think they are using us122 firmware or something like that
[00:44] <JRobinskY> 500 gig
[00:44] <chaospsychex> you have 2 partitions on your hdd ?
[00:44] <terr> johwil: I had to get a differential SCSI terminator from Calgary into New Zealand and did it in under 24 hours!
[00:44] <chaospsychex> so ubuntu is on about 20gb?
[00:44] <JRobinskY> Generating grub.cfg ...
[00:44] <JRobinskY> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic
[00:44] <JRobinskY> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-11-generic
[00:44] <JRobinskY> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic
[00:44] <JRobinskY> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
[00:44] <FloodBot1> JRobinskY: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <chaospsychex> open a terminal and do 'sudo update-grub'
[00:44] <JRobinskY> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[00:45] <terr> JRobinskY: heep going.  I don't find 4 lines offensive but I'm not a chanel op
[00:45] <chaospsychex> jrobinsky check your pm
[00:45] <johwil> terr, that is great
[00:45] <terr> johwil: just let me know.  I have lots of them... can pop one in the mail for you... you'll have it in about a week.
[00:45] <winut> johwil, can you disable usb2 in bios? i think a cheap usb hub would be better, then you don't have to modify the usb setup
[00:46] <DemonicData> Ubuntu sound is all messed up out of the box
[00:46] <winut> however, you'll probably find the internal soundcard is just as good! lol
[00:46] <DemonicData> distorted and playing with settings with cause alsa mixer to crash
[00:47] <alkafoo> alsamixer... to crash?
[00:47] <winut> what player, what sound engine?
[00:47] <winut> ie vlc / alsa
[00:48] <DemonicData> gnome mixer GUI
[00:48] <DemonicData> or whatever
[00:48] <Odaym> when I get the latest Firefox from the website, what have I gotten? the source?
[00:48] <Odaym> because there is no src/ and of course ./configure won't work
[00:48] <terr> winut: good point... in another way.  Why chance burning a fuse on the MB when you can use a cheap hub?
[00:48] <DemonicData> I have a x-fi.there is Sound out of the box but it is staticy and distorted including echos after i stop the soundfile
[00:49] <winut> i guess, or buy a different soundcard with better support
[00:49] <terr> winut: I bought an asus USB CD and was goingt to drive it off my netbook.  Now I think... no way!  What a dumb idea.
[00:49] <edusasns> hi guys, im new to ubuntu but im having two issues so far and i cant find a way to work around them... what do i use so i can video conference with people using windows? skype wont work and messenger will only give me the option to use sound... any program other than that?
[00:50] <DemonicData> I think its crazy to have to buy another soundcard to get audio to work.it worked fine in jaunty but since then it hasn't
[00:50] <terr> edusasns: I'll have the same problem!
[00:50] <johwil> winut, Can you give me the urls to the prebuilt kernels again? I lost mine.
[00:50] <winut> mmm
[00:50] <edusasns> so that means there is no program for taht?
[00:51] <terr> DemonicData: d/l the driver and rebuild it for your version of the O/S
[00:51] <DemonicData> I tried,the opensource file won't work on anything past jaunty
[00:51] <terr> edusasns: no - it means I have not looked yet.
[00:52] <Jordan_U> !bug | DemonicData
[00:52] <DemonicData> its been reported.
[00:52] <scorphus> hey... really, really good approach making the install from USB stick documentation Ubuntu-only! really great job! keep this motto!
[00:52] <scorphus> other distros dont matter at all anyway, right?
[00:52] <scorphus> that's awesome!
[00:53] <edusasns> guys any ideas?
[00:53] <IdleOne> This is an Ubuntu support channel. if you need support for a different distro try their channel.
[00:53] <scorphus> anything this reminds me of?
[00:54] <winut> johwil: The US-144 works with kernel 2.6.33 and above, but only when uhci-hcd (USB 1.1) is forced. This can be done by using an USB 1.1 only USB hub or by disabling ehci-hcd (USB 2.0). The US-144 will run as an US-122L, so the digital channels won't work.
[00:54] <winut> simples http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-usb-us122l#Limitations_for_the_US-144
[00:54] <johwil> winut, Thanks, again.
[00:54] <DemonicData> from what i understand its PulseAudio that has the problems?What are the options?uninstall pulseaudio and install something else?what works
[00:55] <DemonicData> i haven't been in linux since jaunty btw
[00:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> edusasns:  http://ekiga.org/
[00:55] <alkafoo> DemonicData: you could just uninstall pulseaudio
[00:55] <winut> if you use mplayer or vlc, you can choose the audio output
[00:55] <Jordan_U> DemonicData: Do you have a link to the bug report? What makes you think it's a pulseaudio problem?
[00:55] <terr> scorphus: It is a poor idea to keep it ubuntu only.  Besides I was unable to do it with the docs at hand and I've built systems with five (5) os's.  I had the help of the Calgary Linux User's group too.  What I found IMHO is not acceptable
[00:55] <DemonicData> Alkafoo:I was thinking that.What works though?OSS?
[00:56] <alkafoo> DemonicData: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#PulseAudio_Removal
[00:56] <alkafoo> DemonicData: ALSA will work all on its own
[00:56] <terr> DemonicData: first find out if you have the right driver.
[00:56] <winut> demonicdata: i found that unity made my audio funny, but it worked ok in gnome fallback or classic mode
[00:56] <alkafoo> winut: the only way that could be true is if your processor/s couldn't handle the load
[00:56] <DemonicData> Jordan_U:i did a search on the forums for "distortions" or such, and pulseaudio always comes up.currently watching this hooping for hints on my problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t6utRx7EyI
[00:56] <winut> depending if you are using 11.10 or 11.04
[00:57] <winut> alkafoo, it was based on experieince
[00:57] <scorphus> terr: that's the exactly same over here
[00:57] <alkafoo> winut: doesn't matter
[00:57] <terr> DemonicData: winut there is no excuse for this.  If a driver doesn't work right then the errno should be set and the app should post this into /var/log/messages
[00:57] <scorphus> terr: I was being sarcastic, though...
[00:57] <DemonicData> terr:thats the issue I have X-FI there are no drivers for it but a opensoruce one that doesn't compile on versions greater then jaunty
[00:57] <scorphus> this idea sucks!
[00:57] <johwil> winut, What commands should i use to disable ite ehci-hcd (usb2) ?
[00:57] <scorphus> so, now I'm gonna need a windows machine to create it?
[00:58] <terr> DemonicData: then fix it.
[00:58] <scorphus> it's ridiculous
[00:58] <terr> scorphus: I'm thinking of writing a new shell... one that self documents because I'
[00:58] <Wiggidy> demonicdata fix it and contribute to the community
[00:58] <DemonicData> terr:thats exactly what I am trying to figure out.of course currently I haven't INSTALLed ubuntu yet.I have a lot of files to save before i migrate back to linux
[00:59] <terr> m seeing over a decade little progress in us cleaning up our act.
[00:59] <DemonicData> Wiggidy:if that was within my capability i would have
[00:59] <johwil> winut, If I disable it in BIOS I will not be able to fully use it in windows.
[00:59] <winut> johwil no idea, ill have a look into it, but it would be globally, so hub would be better imo
[00:59] <IdleOne> scorphus: what is it you are trying to do exactly?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> DemonicData: Has a bug report been filed (forum posts are not bug reports) reguarding your specific hardware?
[01:00] <winut> johwil: yeah, better to set this in the os
[01:00] <terr> DemonicData: I start with a new machine.  I leap frog.  I will build a new puter and xfer everything over and then after Ive test ed the new one for 6 months then I will retire the old opne and put the HDD in my bank saftey deposit bix
[01:00] <johwil> winut, any clue?
[01:00] <scorphus> IdleOne: this http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive
[01:00] <winut> hold on mate :-)
[01:00] <DemonicData> just with the X-FI basically all the post are deadends.well no there are a few fix's but it doesn't seem to work.the alsa thing didn't work when i was running karmic.so for worksake i went to windows
[01:01] <scorphus> IdleOne: I'm not on Ubuntu, not on Windows and neither on a Mac
[01:01] <IdleOne> scorphus: ok, what os are you running right now?
[01:01] <IdleOne> ok
[01:01] <scorphus> IdleOne: debian
[01:01] <IdleOne> scorphus: install unetbootin (it's in the repos) if not get it from http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:01] <terr> scorphus: this should be no different than typing in dd if=balh of=/dev/blah n=blah
[01:02] <IdleOne> terr: ubuntu does not support dd of .iso until next release which is next month.
[01:02] <johwil> winut, I have free usb 1.1 ports. Should I use one of thoose When on Ubuntu?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> DemonicData: Please file a bug report by running "ubuntu-bug".
[01:03] <terr> IdleOne: debian does.  I used it in the last century!
[01:03] <JasonGriffee> is "concurrency" in the boot process safe?
[01:03] <IdleOne> terr: right, but you can't dd an ubuntu .iso
[01:03] <scorphus> NM http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive has all the information I need
[01:03] <scorphus> but thanks anyway terr and IdleOne
[01:04] <terr> IdleOne: not to a cd but I should be able to dd a rescue fdd or a rescue USB stick
[01:04] <IdleOne> scorphus: great. glad you sorted it.
[01:04] <terr> IdleOne: I should in fact be able to dd to a removable HDD like say a scsi drive or to one of my optical drives.
[01:05] <Jordan_U> terr: Not with an Ubuntu iso.
[01:05] <terr> IdleOne: we should also have a boot loader which can be loaded onto ANY media of interest which will enable the network so we can boot from anything.
[01:06] <terr> Jordan_U: then IMHO we should fix it.
[01:06] <winut> johwil: i found this http://www.premiumorange.com/la-page-web-of-phil/index.php?page=P030301
[01:06] <Jordan_U> terr: If you read IdleOne's comment to you, you would see that it will be fixed in the next release of Ubuntu.
[01:07] <terr> Jordan_U: I did read the comment.  I'm not waiting.  I have to build a whole new computer because I'm not going to touch the one which works until I get the new puppy running.
[01:08] <winut> johwil: found it! http://www.scribd.com/doc/56106272/Driver-Tascam-Ubuntu
[01:08] <DemonicData> the release next month jordan or next year
[01:08] <terr> Jordan_U: I've faced unable to access the kingston memory stick on the puter which is my desktop but my openBSD webserver works and there is nothing I can find to write to the stupid stick and no instructions... and its simple dimple.  I did it last centrury.
[01:09] <edusasns> btw guys... each time i log off or close the lid of my laptop the OS freezes... no idea what can it be
[01:10] <Jordan_U> terr: Please try to calm down. It is possible to make a bootable USB with Ubuntu on it. The easiest way is using Ubuntu's Startup Disk creator or Unetbootin. If that's not feasable for you for some reason there are other options as well.
[01:10] <terr> Jordan_U: now I dug out some junk and found three dual cpu TYAN T230's and I guess my shortest solution is build a new machine from the ground up.
[01:10] <johwil> winut, Thank you so much for your time
[01:10] <winut> johwil: as the us122 and 144 only work with jack, you should use the kxstudio main ppa for jack 2 support and pulseaudio moudle jack + script imo
[01:10] <winut> then you can use pulseaudio apps with jack
[01:11] <terr> Jordan_U: and that won't run on OpenBsd.  it won't run on Debian Sarge and the old DD in sarge won't mount the stick.
[01:11] <terr> Jordan_U: catch-22 everywhere.
[01:11] <winut> johwil: what distro do you use?
[01:11] <victoralejandro> alguien habla spanish
[01:12] <terr> Jordan_U: found an old P1-200 mHz.  CPU is missing an instrcution.  Well its likely 15 yeras old anyways.  But it works!
[01:12] <Jordan_U> terr: Then I would recommend copying the iso (as a file on a filesystem) to the USB drive (or whatever drive you want to make bootable) and install and configure grub2 to loop boot it.
[01:12] <johwil> 11.4
[01:12] <terr> Jordan_U: can't do that on sarge because it can't mount the stick.
[01:12] <johwil> Gnome
[01:13] <Jordan_U> terr: What happens when you try to mount the flash drive? What filesystem is on the drive?
[01:13] <terr> Jordan_U: no worries anyways.  I'm going to put the new MB into a case and move the CPU and Ram from the dead boxen over and I'll get it running.
[01:13] <J-code> Anyone familiar with a smart boot manager package for ubuntu, does it exist
[01:14] <winut> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa add ppa:kxstudio-team/ppa to your software sources under repositories in synaptic and probably ppa:kxstudio-team/kernel for alsa-firmware
[01:14] <terr> Jordan_U: I detroyed it.  It was fat and I blew that away.... but it doesn't matter because the machine I was going to try died!  I think a cap on the MB blew.  I don't think it can boot from a USB stick anyways.
[01:14] <hellhammer> I'm running x64 ubuntu 10.04 my mic isnt working i tried the fix where you add options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 to the alsa-base.conf and that didnt change anything how do i get the mic to work?
[01:14] <johwil> winut, 11.4 (Gnome=)
[01:15] <michael_p> minecraft should have no problems runing in ubuntu
[01:15] <winut> johwil: yeah, thats a good release
[01:16] <terr> Jordan_U: and the only peripherals on that puppy are a USB and that's it.  No CD.  No FDD.  No HDD with na O/S and it does have a nic... and also 6 video connections so it can run six (heads) whihc I guess means its a devil... but it died on the way to the linux user's group.
[01:16] <urist_> is there a minecraft for linux ? or do u run it on wine?
[01:16] <Jordan_U> DemonicData: When you've submitted a bug report please subscribe me (JordanU on launchpad) to the report as I'm interested in following it.
[01:17] <Jordan_U> terr: If the situation is resolved and you no longer need support then please stop discussing the issue.
[01:18] <hellhammer> I'm running x64 ubuntu 10.04 my mic isnt working i tried the fix where you add options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 to the alsa-base.conf and that didnt change anything how do i get the mic to work?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> urist_: Minecraft is written in Java, it is cross-platform.
[01:18] <johwil> winut, terr  and all others; I have get some sleep. I'llbeback!
[01:18] <hellhammer> I'm running x64 ubuntu 10.04 my mic isnt working i tried the fix where you add options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 to the alsa-base.conf and that didnt change anything how do i get the mic to work?
[01:19] <winut> ok, good luck! hope i give you enough info to go on :-)
[01:19] <winut> hellhammer, you could try to set model
[01:20] <hellhammer> what
[01:20] <Nautilus> hoping someone can help me with tar.  I want to archive the contents of a dir to a folder one above it.  I have tried "tar cvzf filename.tgz *" which is close but doesn't include the hidden files.
[01:20] <Nautilus> errr "../filename.tgz"
[01:21] <terr> Jordan_U: the issue is poor bootstrap proceedures and that is not resolved.  it should not take a sysadmin with consulting backup to install ubuntu on any POS that runs.
[01:22] <oscar> hola
[01:22] <winut> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751483
[01:22] <Jordan_U> terr: This channel is for support, not ranting. And please watch your language (abbreviated or not). This is your last warning.
[01:22] <terr> Jordan_U: I should be able to stuff a DOS fdd boot disk in or anything since and do an install... and I do know how to program DOS and in assembler too.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | terr
[01:23] <winut> fao hellhammer (see above)
[01:23] <hellhammer> what
[01:23] <OerHeks> Nautilus, tar -cvpzf test.tgz >> But be careful of placing the new tar inside the same directory you are tarring. You can get into a nasty loop.
[01:24] <terr> Jordan_U: all I'm saying is that if the machine can run the HDD then we should be able to do an install...  even if we need to use dd
[01:24] <Nautilus> OerHeks: the -p does it?
[01:24] <OerHeks> jups
[01:24] <OerHeks> Nautilus, see man tar
[01:25] <Nautilus> i have, too long ;)
[01:25] <Nautilus> looking for -p
[01:25] <tholl583xx> hmm, im thinking of using chrome instead of evince, is that going to cause problems?
[01:25] <Nautilus> ag, -p is permissions
[01:26] <Nautilus> ah*
[01:26] <Nautilus> OerHeks: I don't see anything about hidden files in the manual
[01:27] <tholl583xx> is there a tool to do document statistics on pdfs like word count and concordence in the ubuntu repos that is standard for academic stuff?
[01:27] <t0ken> evenin folks!
[01:28] <hellhammer> I'm running x64 ubuntu 10.04 my mic isnt working i tried the fix where you add options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 to the alsa-base.conf and that didnt change anything how do i get the mic to work?
[01:28] <t0ken> is there a way to mount an nfs share, and use some sort of mapping for UID and GID's.  example...remote server has the same users, but the UID and GID's are different.  Is there some way to tell it to translate?
[01:29] <tholl583xx> t0ken: do you want it to mount the remote nfs with some local permissions, or sync the local accounts with the remote server?
[01:30] <Nautilus> OerHeks: trying -cvpzf but the command you gave me doesn't specify any files.  I tried using * but I think that keeps hidden files out
[01:30] <Nautilus> more speficially: tar -cvpzf ../geotech1.tgz *
[01:30] <t0ken> tholl583xx: I'm using this to backup local stuff to a NAS that is exporting volumes via NFS.  I'd like to keep permissions and such the same
[01:31] <Loshki> Nautilus: When you type "tar cvzf filename.tgz *" the "*" gets expanded by bash to match all non-hidden files i.e. it's not tar deciding which files to archive. Instead, go up one level and do  "tar cvzf filename.tgz <directory>" and that should tar even the hidden files in the directory....
[01:31] <Nautilus> Loshki: yes that will do it but then I have an unwanted level of dir in the tgz file
[01:31] <winut> hellhammer, what is your soundcard?
[01:32] <t0ken> tholl583xx: the users already exist on the NAS that's exporting the NFS volume, just the uid/gid stuff is different
[01:32] <t0ken> I read something about a 'map_static=/somefile' option, but can't find any documentation on it or how to implement in /etc/fstab
[01:32] <dr_willis> t0ken:  i belive its doable via the nfs configs - but its been ages since i last did nfs  - You checked the ubuntu nfs wiki page?
[01:33] <dr_willis> !nfs
[01:33] <Loshki> Nautilus: then try: cd <directory>; tar cvzfp /tmp/filename.tgz .  <--- note final period, note filename change to /tmp
[01:33] <t0ken> hrmm, I have not.  I'll go check.  My concern is it's gonna be a setting onthe exporting NFS server, which I don't really have access to
[01:33] <hellhammer> my sound card
[01:33] <t0ken> thanks for the pointer!
[01:33] <Nautilus> Loshki: I see, trying!
[01:34] <hellhammer> radeon x1200 series audio controller
[01:34] <winut> cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:34] <Xeneth> Anyone know how to make ubuntu save to an ssh connection (sshfs) on the fly?  I alway's have to save them move the file.
[01:35] <hellhammer> http://pastebin.com/wG4VTAif
[01:35] <hellhammer> thats the cat
[01:35] <vagner> alguem ???
[01:35] <Nautilus> Loshki: I don't seem to get all the files in <directory> that way, not just the hiddens are missing
[01:35] <t0ken> dr_willis: that's perfect.  just need to the right TFM to R, heh.  thanks again
[01:35] <vagner> oi
[01:35] <vagner> df
[01:36] <Loshki> Nautilus: so, which files are missing? Is there a listing when you do "tar cvzfp /tmp/filename.tgz ."
[01:37] <Nautilus> Loshki: my bad, looks like they're all there!
[01:37] <Nautilus> ty
[01:37] <Loshki> Nautilus: very good...
[01:38] <hellhammer> http://pastebin.com/ajRJqrDw
[01:39] <winut> hellhammer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576099&page=2
[01:39] <Jasonn> What are things I can install on my server to make it awesome?
[01:40] <infobit> Jasonn, depends what you want to do with it
[01:40] <magnesium> jasonn -- visitor counters, 404 zork game, etc. :P
[01:40] <Jasonn> infobit: Something that is just a cool feature
[01:40] <Jasonn> I just got a dedi
[01:41] <nocilis> jasonn is it a gaming server? web server? ftp? what?
[01:41] <winut> hellhammer: that page seems to link to this, seems like they have a lot of success -> http://isallmaroon.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/no-microphone-input-in-skype-ubuntu-10-04/
[01:41] <Jasonn> magnesium: :#
[01:41] <AlecTaylor> hi
[01:41] <Jasonn> brb
[01:42] <cody__> hello i am trying to unrar with unrar the file name is DIABLOII.rar it is located in my downlouds folder
[01:42] <AlecTaylor> I want to resize an NTFS partition on my second SATA drive, to make room for Ubuntu. I've booted into the 11.10 Beta USB. GParted failed. Log: http://www.webdevout.net/test?0H#output - What should I do now?
[01:43] <qin> cody__: rar e ~/Downloads/DIABLOII.rar
[01:43] <Loshki> t0ken: easier to just add a user on your client whose uid/gid matches one on the server....
[01:44] <bmoloney> I have successfully installed a kernel module for my raid card but it doesn't get loaded at boot. I have to modprobe it when the machine is up
[01:45] <th0r> bmoloney: add it to /etc/modules?
[01:45] <infobit> AlecTaylor, use disk utility in ubuntu which you find under system>adminisration menu and be carefull
[01:45] <qin> cody__: Sorry: unrar e
[01:45] <t0ken> Loshki: tru, but not possible.  it already has users and the uid/gid's collide.   But now that I've found the NEED_IDMAPD=yes option.  It's all good in the neighborhood
[01:45] <bmoloney> th0r: aha, thanks
[01:46] <AlecTaylor> infobit: I can't shrink or extend here
[01:46] <ex0> need to be unmounted
[01:46] <bmoloney> also my keyboard and mouse don't work when I first boot, but do work if I unplug and replug them
[01:46] <nocilis> bmoloney I have the same issue (except only with mouse)
[01:47] <nocilis> bmoloney my keyboard is serial, my mouse is usb
[01:47] <bmoloney> nocilis well mine is wireless keyboard mouse comboe
[01:47] <bmoloney> one usb
[01:47] <cody__> qin , i downloaded rar
[01:47] <infobit> AlecTaylor, google it for help
[01:47] <th0r> bmoloney: open a terminal, type 'tail -f /var/log/messages' then plug in the keyboard and mouse. If you see the modules loading, add them as well
[01:48] <nocilis> th0r I don't believe the modules show up anywhere but tty1
[01:49] <w30> I need unity Compiz to start with indirect-rendering. I can't figure out what to hack to get that to happen?
[01:49] <bmoloney> th0r: strangely I don't have a file /var/log/messages ...
[01:50] <th0r> bmoloney: must be another ubuntu improvement <smile>. Was worth a shot
[01:51] <ArNezT> !gambas
[01:51] <Froshell> Hi. Is there anyway to replace the GRUB 2 loader without using a CD?
[01:51] <Froshell> Or USB, etc.
[01:52] <cody__> is there a way to use game isos without a disc
[01:52] <Froshell> Create a virtual drive.
[01:53] <bmoloney> th0r: sigh... yes now it is /var/log/syslog
[01:53] <cody__> lol sorry big noob here
[01:53] <Parsind> extract the iso using winrar
[01:53] <Bambino> got a question for someone
[01:53] <Froshell> cody__: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-phDe6q8fYYJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D405940+virtual+drive+linux&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[01:54] <johwil> winut, I just wanted to say that method 2 on http://www.scribd.com/doc/56106272/Driver-Tascam-Ubuntu worked perfectly. Now I having sound ehile Ubuntu-ing. Great!!
[01:54] <winut> cool man, becuase they took that page offline! lol
[01:54] <winut> it was google o rama to find that link
[01:55] <Froshell> Anyone know how to restore GRUB without using live media?
[01:56] <winut> johwil: does that mean you have another usb port for usb2 still?
[01:56] <bmoloney> th0r: i see messages about it using ehci_hcd and ohci_hcd...  and I see a kernel module called xhci_hcd.  So I will try adding that to my /etc/modules
[01:56] <johwil> winut, NOw I have a question: I have to automize an  instruction. So it is evoked every time I log in.
[01:56] <winut> is that for pulseaudio jack?
[01:57] <johwil> winut, Yes. I have 2 usb2 ports
[01:57] <bmoloney> off to try rebooting, thanks guys
[01:57] <winut> johwil, cool, did you get audio out not via jack? the guide said it was only working via jack
[01:57] <johwil> winut, No. It's for disabeling that usb2 port.
[01:58] <winut> thats all?
[01:58] <winut> so its working normally via sla, pulseaudio etc?
[01:58] <winut> alsa even
[01:59] <t0ken> so just btw, this is the handy dandy backup scriptage I'm using: http://www.perusion.com/misc/Snapback2/snapback2.html
[01:59] <johwil> winut, wait I'll check..
[02:01] <AlecTaylor> How do I automatically install all the dependencies for a given .deb? (trying to install mplayer)
[02:01] <jrib> AlecTaylor: why aren't you using apt-get or some other apt front-end?  mplayer is in ubuntu's repositories
[02:03] <johwil> winut, :( no sound. but the lights on the card is lit.....
[02:03] <AlecTaylor> E: Package 'mplayer' has no installation candidate
[02:04] <jrib> AlecTaylor: run « sudo apt-get update » after ensuring you have the universe repositories enabled and try again
[02:04] <AlecTaylor> Can you give me the URL for universe repo
[02:04] <winut> johwil: what happened, i thought you said it was working?
[02:04] <jrib> !repos | AlecTaylor
[02:04] <johwil> winut, I only saw the leds before....
[02:05] <AlecTaylor> jrib: I'm running 11.10 Beta. What's the URL I need to add to my sources.list?
[02:05] <jrib> AlecTaylor: 11.10 support is in #ubuntu+1, but read ubottu's message
[02:06] <McQue> All: Noobie, needing help with WiFi setup.  Have write up at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846342.  Not getting WiFi light on final reboot for my Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop.  Can someone help me debug it?
[02:06] <winut> johwil, try it with jack
[02:06] <johwil> winut, Were can I read about automation of commands?
[02:06] <winut> follow all of the instructions past the usb bit
[02:06] <johwil> winut, will make a ty.
[02:07] <winut> once you have it working, worry about automating it then
[02:07] <DemonicData> hey does anyone know if truecrypt supports full disk encryption in linux yet?
[02:08] <jpmh> I installed thunderbird - but it got me an old copy, 3.16, so I went to the thunderbird site and collected the .bz - how do I upgrade
[02:09] <dspace> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable
[02:09] <GHost> Quick need help Administrative Password and i'm typing it correctly and its saying its incorrect
[02:09] <McQue> All: Repeating: Noobie, needing help with WiFi setup.  Have write up at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846342.  Not getting WiFi light on final reboot for my Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop.  Can someone help me debug it?
[02:10] <th0r> GHost: capslock?
[02:10] <GHostbusttters> what?
[02:10] <dspace> jpmh: That ppa above will get you the latest Thunderbird
[02:11] <GHostbusttters> th0r nope
[02:12] <jpmh> dspace: ty - will grab it
[02:16] <ArNezT> i plan to make dual boot OS, ubuntu and windows but the first i has ubuntu and the second plan is windows. how to re-enable the GRUB/boot loader from ubuntu if it was replace the MBR by windows loader?
[02:17] <Nautilus> I'm wanting to use clonezilla to backup an ubuntu partition to an external USB drive.  should I use device->image or device->device?
[02:18] <idlemind> device -> image will save the partition to a file
[02:19] <idlemind> nautilus that said if the usb drive is a format that doesn't support +4gb files you may end up in trouble
[02:19] <Nautilus> it has no partition right now
[02:19] <idlemind> the usb drive is just plain old empty?
[02:19] <Nautilus> device->device sounds like the way to go
[02:19] <Nautilus> yep
[02:19] <idlemind> so ya device -> device should work then
[02:19] <Nautilus> cool, tx
[02:20] <idlemind> if you want to use the usb drive after the image i would recommend device -> image and put a filesystem on that usb drive
[02:20] <UbuntuBrandon> Hello guys. How is it going?
[02:21] <syoutsey> hi guys, i'm having a bit of trouble with my hd. i think it might have failed
[02:21] <syoutsey> i restarted my box and there's a continuous beep now
[02:21] <syoutsey> hd doesn't show up in BIOS
[02:21] <tinybird> Hi, all
[02:22] <syoutsey> boot to live disc, hd won't show under fdisk
[02:22] <syoutsey> anything else to try?
[02:22] <UbuntuBrandon> Well Syoutsey, load Disk Utility
[02:22] <syoutsey> k in it
[02:23] <UbuntuBrandon> K does the HD show up at all?
[02:23] <idlemind> syoutsey sounds like a dead drive to me. if you are really desperate to get your data off you can pull the drive out and put it in the freezer and then pull it back out after like 30 mins and try to boot up
[02:23] <Nautilus> idlemind: looks like it expects me to already have a partition there.  About d->i or d->d is either easier for me to review what actually was saved?
[02:24] <idlemind> nautilus i'm not a clonezilla expert but i would think that your best bet would be to put a partition and format that usb drive (from ubuntu) then boot back into clonezilla and to d->i
[02:24] <idlemind> d->d should create a partition for you
[02:24] <idlemind> but i have only done d->d for an entire disk not just a partition
[02:24] <ArNezT> hello guys..
[02:24] <ArNezT> i plan to make dual boot OS, ubuntu and windows but the first i has ubuntu and the second plan is windows. how to re-enable the GRUB/boot loader from ubuntu if it was replace the MBR by windows loader?
[02:24] <Nautilus> yea, didnt look like it did that for partitions
[02:25] <ArNezT> anybody can help?
[02:25] <idlemind> arnezt i'd check the install disk i think it has a recover system option otherwise in the live cd mode you should be able to execute a grub repair. if you google around a little bit you should be able to find it
[02:25] <UbuntuBrandon> ArNezT, I would install Windows first,
[02:25] <idlemind> and arnezt if possible install windows first like brandon said but i think you already ran the install righ
[02:25] <idlemind> *right
[02:25] <UbuntuBrandon> Just because of the replacement of the GRUB by installing it second could make things messy.
[02:26] <ArNezT> but i have ubuntu now
[02:26] <KrashKing> what is the latest LTS?
[02:26] <idlemind> nautilus also i've noticed d->d freaks out when your destination drive is smaller than the partition even if it encompasses free space ... like your partition is 80gb with 20gb used and your usb drive is 60gb the d->d will bomb out
[02:26] <UbuntuBrandon> If it is not possible, you can install Windows 2nd. It isn't a terrible problem, just make a partition first.
[02:27] <UbuntuBrandon> And latest LTS for 11.04 is .04.3 I think.
[02:27] <idlemind> ubuntubrandon / arnezt you should be able to boot into the live cd mount your existing ubuntu install and run grub-install feeding it the cfg file that already exists
[02:27] <UbuntuBrandon> I could be wrong.
[02:27] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U, you on?
[02:27] <idlemind> it won't damage or change your system or make it messy if you use the same config
[02:27] <hmw> How can I get the program icon back, after I installed another window theme? I did it once, but can't remember how I did it. I had to change a xml file in /usr/share/themes, I suppose. Can't find a solution on the web. Perhaps you can give me better search terms than "icon", because it's all about moving the icons to the right.
[02:27] <KrashKing> thanks UbuntuBrandon
[02:27] <hmw> *left actually
[02:28] <idlemind> yup 10.04.3 is the latest lts
[02:28] <FoxtrotZero> How about [deXter] or terr?
[02:29] <ArNezT> so many many programs i have in ubuntu...  any othe solution without install windows for dual boot? i want to try vb.net
[02:30] <th0r> ArNezT: you can run winxp in a vm, install virtualbox
[02:30] <ArNezT> thank you th0r
[02:30] <idlemind> ya th0r has your most seamless method
[02:30] <ArNezT> i'll try that
[02:30] <UbuntuBrandon> Just make sure you can run a VM to spec, bud.
[02:31] <Nautilus> IdleOne: the partition i want to backup is ext3 ... use the same for the USB backup?
[02:31] <idlemind> arnezt: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/virtualbox-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal.html
[02:31] <FoxtrotZero> Does anyone know how to find the exact location of a bad sector on an NTFS partition, and then force the HDD to write to it?
[02:31] <idlemind> use that to get the decent virtualbox
[02:31] <ArNezT> thank idlemind
[02:32] <ArNezT> thank all guys i'll do that...
[02:32] <idlemind> nautilus since clonezilla is linux based i'd format that usb drive with a linux filesystem if possible but you can use ntfs if that trips your trigger
[02:32] <idlemind> np gl arnezt
[02:32] <Nautilus> didnt mention ntfs.  i see GpartEd's default is ext2
[02:32] <idlemind> that works too =)
[02:32] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Hi again. Can you pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda"?
[02:33] <Nautilus> but go with ext3 like the partition I'm backing up?
[02:33] <FoxtrotZero> Well, Jordan_U, I ran it, but I ran it in a windows command prompt.
[02:33] <FoxtrotZero> So, yes and no.
[02:33] <ArNezT> FoxtrotZero, try using Hiren boot from CD
[02:33] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Please boot Ubuntu and run the command.
[02:33] <FoxtrotZero> ArNezT: Pardon, can you explain?
[02:33] <dfcnvt> I'm kind of sick of a newer version... Especially the tabs on its side of the desktop.
[02:34] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: The problem there is I first need an IRC that won't keep dropping out (i.e., firefox) and we couldn't seem to get xchat to work.
[02:34] <idlemind> nautilus i'd say as long as it's a native linux filesystem you'll do alright ... with ntfs you may hit a glitch or two just because it's m$
[02:34] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: You can use Empathy, which comes on the LiveCD by default.
[02:34] <m477> is it possible to change monitor brightness in terminal mode ( bash )?
[02:35] <Nautilus> idlemind: ok, ext3 ... thanks for your patience
[02:35] <ArNezT> FoxtrotZero, visit: www.hiren.info/ <-- bundle of HDD recovery
[02:35] <idlemind> nautilus nps
[02:35] <OerHeks> ArNezT, hirens boot cd is not legal, please don't recommend it here.
[02:35] <magn3ts> Anyone have any HDMI-In capture cards they can recommend for use with Linux? (I don't mind using VLC as a frontend)
[02:36] <OerHeks> ArNezT, Ultimate boot cd is legal and free
[02:37] <m477> is it?
[02:38] <UbuntuBrandon> M447 I do not know. I am sure all is possible with terminal
[02:38] <UbuntuBrandon> but I have buttons on the side of my monitor for that. lol
[02:39] <OerHeks> magn3ts, good start is http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog
[02:39] <ArNezT> OerHeks, but no complain for this site: http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/ for legal or illegal... i've download from here
[02:39] <primary> How do I get mplayer, or any media player, to play these .wma files I have? I can't convert them with ffmpeg. What decoder package do I need?
[02:39] <bsmith093> whats the command to rename a whole mess of files (10k+) at once, because the thunar bulk renamer is choking on it, i need to change periods to null and then replace the extension with eml
[02:40] <rww> bsmith093: see man rename
[02:40] <th0r> primary: have you installed w32codecs?
[02:40] <UbuntuBrandon> Primary are your Ubuntu Restricted Extras installed?
[02:40] <UbuntuBrandon> Extras or something like that...
[02:40] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, I'll see, is that a repository?
[02:40] <primary> th0r, second
[02:41] <ex0> bsmith093 : rename "s/ *//g" *.mp3
[02:41] <UbuntuBrandon> Well go to Synaptic and Type Ubuntu-Restricted
[02:41] <UbuntuBrandon> and tell me what is installed.
[02:41] <ex0> bsmith: customize it to your needs
[02:42] <primary> i have ubuntu-restricted-addons but not ubuntu-restricted-extras, and I can't find w32codecs in apt-cache search th0r
[02:42] <ex0> bsmith: check out this link http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/renaming-multiple-files-at-a-shell-prompt.html
[02:42] <UbuntuBrandon> Also guys, if you are avid youtube visitors, and would like to get a constant content about Linux tips tricks and other cool stuff. I have a new channel there.
[02:42] <th0r> primary: they may be in the restricted extras package....another ubuntu 'improvement'
[02:42] <UbuntuBrandon> They are.
[02:43] <UbuntuBrandon> Just mark the Extras for installation.
[02:43] <UbuntuBrandon> Ps: It's /UbuntuBrandon xD
[02:44] <acovrig> what (if any) partition type can windows and linux read&write that supports huge files (fat32 doesn't support >4G files)
[02:44] <bsmith093> ok, i suck at perl, and im worse at regexp, i need the extension renamed from .cybercom to .eml, can someone write that please?
[02:44] <primary> th0r, meh, I installed this because I heard it was debian for lazy people which I have become
[02:45] <UbuntuBrandon> Aco, MTFS is the only thing you can install Windows to, I believe.
[02:45] <th0r> primary: and I installed debian because ubuntu is becoming a whole other animal
[02:45] <UbuntuBrandon> NTFS*
[02:45] <m477> is it possible to change monitor brightness in terminal mode ( bash )?
[02:45] <francoslv> you prefer devian to ubuntu??
[02:45] <francoslv> *debian
[02:45] <th0r> francoslv: I prefer old to weekly updates
[02:45] <acovrig> m477: xset maybe?
[02:46] <francoslv> yeah, I realy like ubuntu, I almost went with Debiean though
[02:46] <UbuntuBrandon> I like what Ubuntu is *trying* to do. Just not the way they are going about it.
[02:46] <m477> acovrig: thx, i will check
[02:46] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Alright, i'm here.
[02:46] <francoslv> what do you mean, Brandon?
[02:47] <UbuntuBrandon> But I use it because regardless of Unity, I set everything how I like it.
[02:47] <acovrig> m477: I know you can turn the screen on/off (with energy * complient systems) using `xset dpms force off'
[02:47] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda"?
[02:47] <th0r> UbuntuBrandon: this is just one example...when I install/reinstall, I add vlc, libdvdcss2, and w32codecs...have for years. But that won't work in ubuntu, will it
[02:47] <UbuntuBrandon> I have the codecs and VLC no problem.
[02:47] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U Command not found.
[02:48] <m477> acovrig: i'd like to set display brightness levels
[02:48] <UbuntuBrandon> I think that they have a LOT of compatibility issues to work out.
[02:48] <TBotNik> McQue: Hi there
[02:48] <th0r> UbuntuBrandon: oh yeah, you can get them, but you have to figure out that w32codecs has been renamed. I just got tired of having to relearn everything with every release
[02:48] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[02:48] <francoslv> anyone here running Ubuntu on a VM??
[02:49] <UbuntuBrandon> Yea they come with the Restricteds that you can mark for installation on setup.
[02:49] <UbuntuBrandon> -Running Ubuntu Studio on a VM, but in Ubuntu right now. Doing a review of studio later tonight.
[02:49] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, I still cannot play wma through vlc, moc, or mplayer
[02:50] <TBotNik> lisiano, McQue: Hey there McQue and I are working on this together.
[02:50] <UbuntuBrandon> That is Odd, Primary...
[02:50] <sky__> hi,all...what is this ?
[02:50] <widewake> sky__,  its a ubuntu help channel
[02:50] <UbuntuBrandon> One moment primary,
[02:50] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, parole media player(gstreamer(?) came with xubuntu) complains about plugins needed
[02:50] <sky__> thanks widewake
[02:51] <TBotNik> lisiano: What other commands do we need to run to find why the driver is not loading right?
[02:51] <widewake> sky__,  yep
[02:51] <lisiano> TBotNik,McQue: You tried to use ndisswrapper. Try to use the Ubuntu Driver
[02:51] <sky__> can i create a chanel for myself ?
 : Yes..why not
[02:51] <TBotNik> lisiano: Explain ?
[02:52] <lisiano> TBotNik,McQue: Take a look inside System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers, your driver might be there already.
[02:52] <UbuntuBrandon> Primary, I am going to link you to a help page, with the commands you need.
[02:52] <UbuntuBrandon> First do you have 64 or 32-bit?
[02:52] <sky__> how ? have GUID ?
[02:52] <primary> ubottu, 64
[02:52] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: I got the test results, but firefox won't stay open, so I can't pastebin them.
[02:52] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, 64
[02:52] <widewake> any easy way to update java?  using java 6 update 26, tried following instructions did not work out
[02:53] <Singham> type /join <#your channel name> but remember.The channel name should be unique
[02:54] <Singham> sky__ : for example if you wish to make a channel names "abc" type /join #abc
[02:54] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda | pastebinit
[02:55] <rww> o_o
[02:55] <sky__> 谢谢
[02:55] <sky__> ：）
[02:55] <UbuntuBrandon> Primary, run this through terminal. "sudo apt-get install w64codecs libdvdcss2"
[02:55] <Jordan_U> rww: ?
[02:55] <rww> Jordan_U: that's... one heck of a command-line :)
[02:56] <Jordan_U> !cn | sky__
[02:56] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, "Package w64codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."
[02:56] <Skeeter-> Hi, i cant resize2fs my 16tb ext4 partition. -> resize2fs: File too large while trying to determine filesystem size
[02:56] <Jordan_U> rww: :)
[02:56] <Skeeter-> im tryng to reduce the size
[02:56] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, what howto are you looking at
[02:57] <sky__> wooooo ~~~~~~~~~~~ ....
[02:57] <UbuntuBrandon> try running this first, sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[02:57] <lisiano> TBotNik,McQue: Did you find the driver in the list?
[02:57] <UbuntuBrandon> and Primary, also, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty.html
[02:57] <widewake>  any easy way to update java?  using java 6 update 26, tried following instructions did not work out
[02:58] <Xeneth> I got no answer in the other channel so thought I would try here.  Can I view a file data encrypted with truecrypt with another program if I cannot install truecrypt on the computer?
[02:58] <McQue> lisiano: yes and its working. thanks!
[02:58] <ArNezT> !id
[02:59] <UbuntuBrandon> xeneth, if you can unencrypt it, yes.
[02:59] <UbuntuBrandon> I don't see it being an issue.
[02:59] <lisiano> TBotNik,McQue: Glad to hear it is resolved. Please post it in the thread and mark the thread as Solved using the Thread Tools
[03:00] <McQue> lisiano: Thanks, friend is showing me how to set permanent links in the /etc/interfaces file, so will always lock in, but thanks again!!
[03:01] <musings> Xeneth: why aren't you able to install truecrypt
[03:01] <lisiano> TBotNik,McQue: There is no need to modify /etc/interfaces ... You can just set up the networks inside Network manager. Once you log in your laptop will automatically look for the network.
[03:02] <Xeneth> It's a PC I trust, but I do not have admin rights.  What's a good portable software to decrypt it?
[03:02] <Jordan_U> !ot | Xeneth
[03:02] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, so I did all that, installed the w64codecs, enabled medibuntu and installed its mplayer + avcodec, and I still get "Requested audio codec family [wma9dmo] (afm=dmo) not available.". Enable it at compilation. Should I just grab the source and compile it? Jesus christ.
[03:03] <th0r> primary: I have encountered some wma files that just won't play on anything but windows media player
[03:03] <cacti> i lost my network preference on my lucid and make me unable to connect to any network, any solutions
[03:04] <UbuntuBrandon> Primary, lol if these WMAs are that important, yes. I understand that they are your files, but from now on, I suggest MP3 encoding, on EVERYTHING.
[03:04] <lisiano> cacti: If you have a wired connection, try using "sudo dhclient eth0" as a workaround.
[03:04] <UbuntuBrandon> Primary, I am sorry that sometimes things do not work as intended.
[03:04] <cacti> lisiano: let me try
[03:04] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, I did not encode these, and if I want to even make use of these I need to transcode them into another format. I prefer Xiph's Vorbis.
[03:04] <primary> I can't decode them - so I can't transcode them.
[03:05] <primary> The patent issues with these codecs is the main reason behind this not being fluidly accessible, you're just suggestion a different poison than the one I already have, UbuntuBrandon.
[03:05] <primary> UbuntuBrandon, You do not have to be sorry, I'll just compile.
[03:05] <francoslv> kih
[03:06] <Nickel> can someone explain to me how to make a shortcut on my desktop? i want to make one for chromium and add the -incognito, but i can't edit the one in my launcher.
[03:06] <primary> On BSD no one gives a shit about these fickle political issues, and so I do find pkgsrc to be sometimes preferable
[03:06] <UbuntuBrandon> DAMN THE MAN. The main concept behind Ubuntu is unity, coming as one, is it not? Let's get with the program, Micro-freaking-soft.
[03:06] <UbuntuBrandon> Apple, you can just go.
[03:07] <th0r> UbuntuBrandon: you are doing this on purpose, aren't you....just waiting for an I told you so <smile>
[03:07] <Nickel> UbuntuBrandon, ouch.
[03:07] <cacti> lisiano: yes its worked! btw how do i restore back my network preference?
[03:07] <UbuntuBrandon> Th0r, huh?
[03:08] <UbuntuBrandon> and Nickel, why ouch?
[03:08] <th0r> UbuntuBrandon: our previous discussion about debian and the ubuntu learning curve with every update
[03:08] <lisiano> cacti: You use Gnome right? "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" should install everything you had when you installed.
[03:08] <francoslv> ping clausen
[03:08] <Nickel> UbuntuBrandon, i just like your enthusiasm about it, it's great. i dislike osx, and am trying to get into ubuntu... still going to run w7 on the desktop for gaming though. :P
[03:09] <cacti> lisiano: yes, but it said i already have the newest version and no new package to install
[03:09] <Jordan_U> !codecs | primary
[03:09] <Nickel> can someone explain to me how to make a shortcut on my desktop? i want to make one for chromium and add the -incognito, but i can't edit the one in my launcher.
[03:11] <BrandonBolton> Nickel, the link is /home/[yourusername]/Desktop
[03:11] <tinybird> ln -n /<chromium> ~/desktop/chromium
[03:11] <UbuntuBrandon> I believe that if Microsoft would realize that they have enough money, then they could produce content that is not protected by every copyright in the book, then all users, all around world, regardless of being able to run the Windows software, since they don't rightly support the old versions that they can run... and now i've lost my train of thought.
[03:11] <Nickel> BrandonBolton, i'm not following
[03:11] <UbuntuBrandon> I wish... that all users, could create content that all users can be compatible with.
[03:12] <UbuntuBrandon> And that is my point.
[03:12] <BrandonBolton> Nickel, I read it wrong. tinybird said the right way.
[03:12] <tinybird> Brandon is like the angry bird. Haha
[03:13] <Nickel> tinybird, very new to linux, explain please? :D
[03:13] <A7> Hey guys. I'm trying to restore GRUB to my Ubuntu installation. It was overwritten when I installed Windows. I tried sudo grub, but it says command not found.
[03:13] <UbuntuBrandon> Just take what he said and paste it into the Terminal.
[03:13] <A7> Also, /sbin/grub can't be found either
[03:14] <UbuntuBrandon> You will have to reinstall GRUB, A7
[03:14] <A7> Oh
[03:14] <tinybird> you can use the command "ln --help" to read the help
[03:14] <A7> I'll look into that then
[03:14] <lisiano> cacti: Try running these 2 applications from Alt+F2, "nm-applet" and "nm-connection-editor"
[03:14] <Nickel> it gives me "bash: chromium: no such file or directory"
[03:14] <Dns> !question what is the comand to change file.log to file.txt ?
[03:15] <dspace> mv ?
[03:15] <th0r> Dns: mv file.log file.txt
[03:15] <IdleOne> Dns: mv file.log file.txt
[03:15] <Dns> th0r nd IdleOne thx so much
[03:15] <UbuntuBrandon> Nickel find where your Chromium is installed.
[03:16] <UbuntuBrandon> and we will work from there.
[03:16] <Nickel> well
[03:16] <tinybird> Nickel, first, you have to spot your Chromium directory
[03:16] <th0r> Nickel: 'which chromium' in a terminal
[03:16] <dspace> rename 's/log/txt/' file.log :)
[03:16] <th0r> dspace: rename?
[03:17] <tinybird> Oh, the command is "whereis chromium"
[03:17] <dspace> th0r: Yes, it's more useful for multiple files.  Kind of log for a single one, but just as valid :)
[03:17] <zykotick9> Nicke, try chromium-browser
[03:18] <zykotick9> Nickel, ^
[03:18] <Nickel> ok, it gave me the directory
[03:18] <th0r> dspace: didn't even know that command existed! learn something new every day
[03:18] <UbuntuBrandon> ok now what is it?
[03:18] <Nickel> usr/bin/chromium-browser
[03:19] <UbuntuBrandon> TinyBird, what was your command again?
[03:19] <UbuntuBrandon> <- lazy.
[03:19] <Nickel> lol
[03:20] <Nickel> ln -n /<chromium> ~/desktop/chromium
[03:21] <tinybird> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/chromium-browser ~/desktop/chromium
[03:21] <UbuntuBrandon> Beat me to it. lol
[03:21] <Nickel> and that will create a shortcut?
[03:21] <widewake> chmod a+x jre-6u<version>-linux-i586.bin
[03:22] <UbuntuBrandon> ooo who the world runs an 1586 chip anymore? lol
[03:22] <UbuntuBrandon> i*
[03:22] <tinybird> Nickel, I think the shortcut is called "soft link" in Linux.
[03:22] <Nickel> tinybird, "no such file or directory"
[03:22] <Nickel> lol, not a shortcut, a soft link.
[03:22] <Nickel> i'll remember that.
[03:22] <Nautilus> hey now, P4 here ;)
[03:23] <Nickel> i thought it was just called a launcher
[03:23] <UbuntuBrandon> That is the bar on your left. lol
[03:23] <Nickel> can i not just right click the desktop and create a launcher?
[03:24] <UbuntuBrandon> You can if you point it in the right direction for the app.
[03:24] <UbuntuBrandon> BUt, that is for the Launcher Bar
[03:24] <noonday> HI everyone, I have a question about KDE libraries.. I want to use an application that uses KDE dependencies, but I want to know whether these extra libraries will load themselves into memory upon bootup. I would prefer not to load any libraries into RAM by default at startup
[03:24] <UbuntuBrandon> not desktop. But you should be able to make a launcher for the incognito.
[03:24] <Nickel> hmmm
[03:24] <tinybird> Nicel, maybe you can use Desktop instead
[03:24] <widewake>  any easy way to update java?  using java 6 update 26, tried following instructions did not work out
[03:24] <Nickel> i already have chromium on the launcher, is it possible to edit that one?
[03:25] <ex0> hola
[03:25] <UbuntuBrandon> Maybe, but i am pretty sure you can add a seperate one for Incognito.
[03:26] <UbuntuBrandon> then take off the original. lol
[03:26] <Nickel> UbuntuBrandon, feel like walking a noob through that? :D
[03:26] <tinybird> I think may be it's upcase problem.
[03:27] <UbuntuBrandon> Ok, right click desktop, make new launcher
[03:27] <Nickel> kk
[03:27] <UbuntuBrandon> Name it, and under command click browse.
[03:27] <Nickel> kk
[03:27] <idlemind> noonday those libraries should only be loaded when you launch the application that depends on them
[03:27] <UbuntuBrandon> Go to Usr/bin and find the chromium incognito thingy.
[03:27] <UbuntuBrandon> lol
[03:27] <UbuntuBrandon> select it.
[03:28] <Nickel> UbuntuBrandon, interesting, i tried this earlier
[03:28] <tinybird> Brandon is right...
[03:28] <UbuntuBrandon> And you can change the icon, if you do so wish.
[03:29] <UbuntuBrandon> -feels like a noob for not thinking of this earlier.
[03:29] <Nickel> i'm really confused now, i tried that earlier and it gave me a root error
[03:30] <Nickel> perfect. just added -incognito at the end and it works perfectly
[03:30] <computer_> Hey how is "sudo -s" different from "sudo -i"?
[03:30] <UbuntuBrandon> Yay. High-fives around the chat.
[03:31] <Nickel> lmao
[03:31] <Nickel> now that i've dragged it onto the launcher, i can delete the one on the desktop, yeah?
[03:31] <Random832> computer_: -i runs root's .login scripts i think
[03:31] <UbuntuBrandon> Yepp
[03:31] <tinybird> Nickel, you may try "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/chromium-browser ~/Desktop/chromium"
[03:32] <Nickel> deleted it from the desktop, it disappeared from the launcher
[03:32] <Nickel> :/
[03:32] <Nickel> i'll try move to
[03:32] <computer_> Ooo so -s is a more straight forward way
[03:33] <noonday> idlemind, thank you for your tip
[03:33] <Nickel> tinybird, mind explaining what the "ln" and "-s" mean, exactly?
[03:33] <Nickel> tinybird, i want to retain this stuff, lol
[03:34] <tinybird> we use the "ln" to create a soft link
[03:34] <tinybird> it's just like the shortcut in windows.
[03:34] <Nickel> cool.
[03:34] <Nickel> and the -s?
[03:35] <tinybird> in fact, "ln" have many options
[03:35] <Nickel> this is strange, so i have the soft link on the desktop, how do i put it on the launcher, and remove it from the desktop?
[03:35] <tinybird> "ln" can also create "hard link"
[03:36] <Nickel> soft link for shortcut... hard link for?
[03:36] <tinybird> "-s"option indicate that you will create a "soft" link
[03:37] <Nickel> i see i see
[03:37] <tinybird> "hard link" is a pointer to a file.
[03:37] <tinybird> You may find more details in some text book teaching Ubuntu Linux
[03:38] <Nickel> tinybird, need to go pick one up :D
[03:39] <th0r> Nickel: the linux documentation project...tldp.org
[03:39] <b__> su
[03:39] <b__> Password:
[03:39] <b__> su: Authentication failure
[03:39] <b__>  i keep gtetting this error... But im the admin, any help?
[03:39] <tinybird> "ln --help" will be helpful
[03:39] <Nickel> so  typically when i open a program, it shows links that i've pinned on the launcher, as well as running applications, the running applications disappear when i close them, of course... when i open this chromium link it does not  show up on the launcher, nor will it let me pin it to it
[03:39] <Jordan_U> !root | b__
[03:39] <rww> !sudo | b__
[03:39] <zykotick9> b__, use sudo instead of su
[03:39] <Nickel> th0r, thanks for the link
[03:40] <Nickel> th0r, bookmark'd
[03:40] <b__> well i did use sudo
[03:40] <b__> and it want working very well
[03:41] <SchalaZeal> Is there a way to backup my system installation in a similar way that Windows does? Windows stores the system backup in a .vhd file without needing a dedicated partition. Is there something similar with Ubuntu?
[03:41] <th0r> b__: did it work better than su?
[03:41] <b__> well
[03:41] <b__> hold on
[03:41] <Nickel> tinybird, did you read what i said above?
[03:41] <tinybird> sorry, I have to leave for a while
[03:42] <Nickel> tinybird, thanks for the help!
[03:42] <Nickel> UbuntuBrandon, any idea what's up with what i said above?
[03:44] <zach2825> hi
[03:44] <Nickel> anyone? :/
[03:45] <zach2825> Nickel, I just got here what heppened?
[03:45] <bullgard4> http://projects.gnome.org/seahorse/: "With seahorse you can: Cache your passphrase so you don't have to keep typing it." -- What is "my passphrase"?
[03:46] <Nickel> i created a launcher on the desktop for chromium, so i could add the -incognito at the end to open it incognito by default, if i pin it to the launcher, and delete the one on the desktop, it disappears on the launcher as well
[03:46] <Nickel> zach2825, also, hello, and thanks for your time :D
[03:47] <Nickel> so what i'm aiming to do is just have it on the launcher, and not the desktop
[03:48] <zach2825> just right click on panel > add > add launcher ... don't use the desktop one cause that just makes a shortcut to a shortcut...
[03:48] <Nautilus> is this the explicit ver# of the installed MySQL?:  5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.8 (Ubuntu)
[03:48] <zach2825> Nickel, when you drag things to the panel it make a link to what ever you dragged... and when you delete the icon it deletes the link
[03:49] <Nickel> lol, that makes sense
[03:49] <Nickel> what exactly do you mean right click on panel
[03:49] <zach2825> hold the mouse over it and right click LOL
[03:49] <Nickel> under the dash?
[03:49] <Nickel> it doesn't respond
[03:49] <Nickel> :P
[03:49] <user> i
[03:50] <zach2825> on a clear spot on the bar
[03:50] <user> hi
[03:50] <zach2825> user, hi
[03:50] <Nickel> nothing happens when i right click the launcher
[03:50] <zach2825> Nickel, are you using unity?
[03:50] <Nickel> that's default right? i just installed ubuntu 11.04 last night
[03:51] <BoomerBile> what would cause glx extensions not to load?
[03:51] <zach2825> Nickel, oo I see if you log out you can if you like to. change it to gnome classic. then you will be able to add things to the panel but unity sucks still cause its more restrictive the windows still
[03:52] <musings> BoomerBile: your video card driver
[03:52] <Nickel> zach2825, so if i log back into unity afterwards, will it still be there?
[03:52] <musings> BoomerBile: checl /var/log/Xorg.0.log for info
[03:52] <Nickel> zach2825, thanks for the help, gonna try that now
[03:53] <Atharva> Hi..I want to upgrade the BIOS of my Dell vostro 1400.The updates provided by dell are to be installed from windows.Can I upgrade it via ubuntu by any method ?
[03:54] <zach2825> Nickel, how is it?
[03:55] <Nickel> zach2825, don't have gnome classic, logged into ubuntu classic
[03:55] <Nickel> don't have the launcher bar to the left. :P
[03:55] <zach2825> oh im sorry I forgot the wording lol oops but same
[03:55] <zach2825> yea thats a unity thing
[03:55] <zach2825> you can use gnome-do same idea...
[03:56] <Nickel> lol... i think i'll have to go without the default incognito then, i was trying to pin it on the unity launcher
[03:56] <Nickel> brb, logging again
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Atharva: BIOS updating utilities can usually be run in DOS. The standard solution is to use FreeDOS for this purpose.
[03:57] <BoomerBile> musings, you need nvidia to have glx?
[03:57] <bullgard4> How is the 'machine hardware name' defined that the command '~$ uname -m' outputs? '~$ info coreutils 'uname invocation' returns the additional information: "sometimes called the hardware class or hardware type" and does not give a definition either.
[03:57] <Atharva> Jordan_U : This means I have to install DOS first (Format the pc) ..is it ?
[03:58] <zach2825> Nickel, I see for now I don't think you can edit the unity bar
[03:58] <zach2825> you can pin things but not edit
[03:58] <Nickel> zach2825, even still, i quite like it
[03:58] <Nautilus> I have a USB drive connected and went to "Places" menu and mounted it, but can't figure out how to open a window that shows the files on the drive.  single ext3 partition.
[03:58] <Jordan_U> Atharva: No. FreeDOS can be put on a CD or USB, or even booted without ether using grub and syslinux's memdisk.
[03:58] <Nickel> zach2825, can i hide the one i put on the desktop, by chance?
[03:59] <Nickel> zach2825, like just... put the launcher elsewhere, but drag it onto the bar? :D
[03:59] <zach2825> if you put a . on the front of the same it will see it as a system file
[03:59] <zach2825> or here is an idea!!!
[03:59] <Atharva> Jordan_U : Is it a type of windows live cd ?
[04:00] <zach2825> make a folder called .shortcut put the icon in there then add it to the launcher
[04:00] <zach2825> I mean add the icon to the launcher...
[04:00] <Jordan_U> Atharva: No, it is not Windows, it is DOS (a Free and Open Source version of DOS, not Microsoft's).
[04:01] <Jordan_U> Atharva: Most Windows programs will not run from DOS, but most BIOS updating Utilities are specifically designed for DOS.
[04:01] <silverarrow> anyone using mplayer and gecko in Ubuntu?
[04:01] <king-egg> ...
[04:01] <Atharva> Jordan_U : Oh..Thanks..n one more thing.does .exe executes on it ? because the BIOS upgrade Dell has provided is .exe..
[04:02] <Nautilus> how do I file browse a mounted drive.  I'm guessing I know the name of the app that does the browsing but can't figure out how to open it/the directory.  When I click on it under "places", nothing happens.  Well, first click it made me mount it, so should be good to go.
[04:02] <Nickel> zach2825, can't name a folder .shortcut
[04:02] <zach2825> how come? should let you let me try it...
[04:03] <Nickel> make this folder on the desktop? then name it .shortcut?
[04:04] <zach2825> yes, it does rename.. but after you do it refreash by pressing F5
[04:04] <Nickel> it disappeared o.o
[04:04] <Nickel> lmao
[04:04] <Nickel> how to unhide system files?
[04:04] <zach2825> it does it but looks like there is some kind of bug or something. to get into that folder you'll have to open the actuall folder by going to you home folder then desktop then press ctrl+h
[04:05] <zach2825> to show system files
[04:05] <Jordan_U> Atharva: There is a package "firmware-addon-dell" that looks promising for actually doing a firmware update within Ubuntu. I've never used it personally though.
[04:05] <peeps[lappy]> anyone tried sega genesis emulation on ubuntu?  i tried "gens" but there does not appear to be a 64bit version.  also tried xmess but getting seg faults with it
[04:07] <Nickel> zach2825, i hid it in the .shortcut folder, and it disappeared from the launcher
[04:07] <Nickel> lmao
[04:07] <Nickel> it was not meant to be
[04:08] <zach2825> don't put the folder on there just use the folder as a place to hide the icon for chrome
[04:08] <Nickel> that's what i did
[04:08] <Nickel> when i hid the icon
[04:08] <Nickel> it disappeared from the launcher as well
[04:08] <zach2825> don't hide the icon just leave it in the folder
[04:09] <zach2825> put it in the folder then add the icon to the launcher
[04:09] <Nickel> that's what i did though
[04:09] <Atharva> Jordan_U : Ok...Will try now
[04:10] <Josh___> hello
[04:10] <Josh___> Can anyone assist me?
[04:10] <Nickel> zach2825, tried it again
[04:11] <Nickel> put the icon in the folder first, then renamed the folder .shortcut
[04:11] <Nickel> worked this time
[04:11] <Nickel> excellent! thanks man
[04:11] <sattu94> !ask | Josh___
[04:11] <Atharva> !ask | Josh___
[04:11] <Nautilus> why would a mounted volume have "unknown type", "size unknown", etc?
[04:12] <Atharva> sattu94 :  :)
[04:12] <zach2825> Nickel, NICE!!! easiest way I could think to do it...
[04:12] <Nickel> finagled. lmao
[04:12] <sattu94> Atharva: :)
[04:12] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:12] <AlecTaylor> Grub didn't install... http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5603/screenshot20at202011091.png - what now... LILO?
[04:12] <Nickel> zach2825, uh oh, now it won't open
[04:12] <Nickel> LMAO
[04:12] <Nickel> the color just pulsates, but chromium doesn't open
[04:13] <Josh___> I am trying to install the latested version of Ubuntu, I've tried from iso burned to cd and from usb stick. when I try and boot to install all i get is the copy right info and then nothing happens
[04:13] <Nickel> the gods didn't want incognito chromium on their launcher.
[04:13] <zach2825> basterds!
[04:13] <OerHeks> AlecTaylor, support for oneiric 11.10 in #Ubuntu+1
[04:14] <AlecTaylor> :\
[04:14] <Nickel> zach2825, i'll go without, but thanks for all the help anyway, it's been a learning experience, lol
[04:14] <zach2825> Nickel, lol good luck maybe one day lol
[04:14] <Nickel> good night all
[04:15] <sattu94> Josh___: when exactly do you get the message? and what kind of screen is it ?
[04:16] <Josh___> @sattu94 I get the message when I boot either the install cd or usb. It's the copy right info looks like it starts to load but nothing happens
[04:17] <sta7ic> how many cores are in a bloomfield i7 930 processor?
[04:18] <sattu94> So when you select the "Try ubuntu without any changes yo your computer"? or "Install Ubuntu", or you don't get to that this screen at all ?
[04:18] <Josh___> no
[04:18] <DemonicData> my disk crashed a few times before it loaded properly,haven't installed it yet
[04:19] <Josh___> I did the md5sum check and everything came back ok. I also tried changing my video card settings in bios and legacy usb in bios neither settings made a diff
[04:19] <sattu94> Josh___: Did you try waiting? :3
[04:19] <Josh___> yep
[04:20] <Josh___> i've only waited 5 minutes. should I let it go longer?
[04:20] <sattu94> Josh___: Maybe, if this is an old computer, with a beaten CD/DVD drive.
[04:21] <Josh___> no it's pretty beefy
[04:21] <Nautilus> dang, i'm in "Computer" and there's all my drives, Filesystem is the main boot drive and I can browse those files... how do I browse the files on the other drives?
[04:21] <Josh___> I also tried the windows installer first and it installed but I couldn't get it to boot into ubuntu.
[04:23] <Nautilus> browse?
[04:23] <Nautilus> drives?
[04:28] <bullgard4> How is the 'machine hardware name' defined which the command '~$ uname -m' prints? '~$ info coreutils 'uname invocation' returns the additional information: "sometimes called the hardware class or hardware type" and does not give a definition either.
[04:28] <Osmond> Question, when I brought my computer out of suspend just now, a red square with a white number 1 appeared in the upper left hand side of the screen, and it wont go away
[04:28] <Osmond> Anyone know how to get rid of it?
[04:28] <Blue1> j #debian
[04:28] <Blue1> heh
[04:29] <bullgard4> Osmond: Give full details of operating system version.
[04:30] <Osmond> Ubuntu 11.04 with an ATI Radeon HD video card
[04:31] <Osmond> I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with Catalyst Control Center? Don't know why, it just has that look to it I suppose the red and white
[04:31] <rypervenche> Osmond: restart. Ubuntu doesn't handle suspend very well.
[04:31] <Osmond> Alright, yeah, I kinda noticed that too, it's never been too hot coming out of suspend.
[04:31] <Osmond> Thanks guys
[04:32] <bullgard4> Osmond: I do not know how to get rid of it. On my Thinkpad T61 this 1 does not appear after resuming from suspend. I advise you to launch an error report to Launchpad.
[04:34] <bullgard4> Osmond: The other two persons are wrong. Resuming from suspend works all right with many Ubuntu 11.04 users.
[04:36] <dex_777> hello
[04:36] <urlin2u> Osmond, works fine with my aceraspireone
[04:40] <josht> does anyone know how to send private messages using irssi i cant figure it out
[04:41] <Jordan_U> josht: /msg some_persons_nick Your message goes here.
[04:41] <josht> Jordan_U: Thanks alot :)
[04:41] <Jordan_U> josht: You're welcome.
[04:44] <bullgard4> How is the 'machine hardware name' defined which the command '~$ uname -m' prints? '~$ info coreutils 'uname invocation' returns the additional information: "sometimes called the hardware class or hardware type" and does not give a definition either.
[04:45] <Corey> bullgard4: Probably something wrapped around dmidecode?
[04:46] <Nautilus> in ubuntu, is there a way to see the files on a usb drive?
[04:46] <Corey> Nautilus: Sure.  "ls" once the drive is mounted. :-)
[04:46] <Corey> Or your file manager of choice.
[04:47] <Nautilus> in file manager, click on it, no love :(
[04:47] <urlin2u> Nautilus, do you mean a persistent file?
[04:47] <Nautilus> i know i'm missing something basic
[04:48] <Blue1> might be permissions
[04:48] <Nautilus> i have a usb drive, used ubuntu to make a ext3 partition, ran CloneZilla to backup my Ubuntu system, and am trying to find the backup image file.
[04:48] <Blue1> or a hidden file
[04:49] <Nautilus> cant even 'open' the drive in the file browser
[04:49] <urlin2u> Nautilus, with clonezilla it is a set of 2000 kb packages I believe.
[04:49] <JRobinskY> hey guys
[04:49] <Blue1> Nautilus: you did all the obvious things, like look at the system log right?
[04:49] <Nautilus> urlin2u: that has nothing to do with just getting to the files
[04:49] <JRobinskY> i need help
[04:49] <Corey> !ask | JRobinskY
[04:50] <Blue1> JRobinskY: just ask the question
[04:50] <Nautilus> havent looked at logs. obvious thing is to click on the drive in the GUI
[04:50] <Blue1> Nautilus: try dmesg and see if there are any errors.
[04:50] <urlin2u> Nautilus, it does in that it is not one file.
[04:51] <Nautilus> urlin2u: i just want to see the file(s)
[04:51] <urlin2u> if you get in, Nautilus
[04:51] <JRobinskY> I had win 7 installed. I installed ubuntu. I had 1 500gig partition. I chose to resize within ubuntu setup to a 480 gig and a 20 gig. It successfully installed but i do not have an option to boot to windows anymore...help
[04:51] <Corey> !dualboot
[04:51] <Corey> JRobinskY: ^
[04:52] <Nautilus> nothing usefull i can see in system logs
[04:53] <Blue1> JRobinskY: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[04:54] <Blue1> Nautilus: you did a lsusb and made sure that it is recognised, right?
[04:54] <Nautilus> dunno what that is
[04:54] <Blue1> hmm
[04:54] <Blue1> Nautilus: try just issuing an lsusb and see if your usb drive is in the list.
[04:55] <Nautilus> but I typed that in shell, there it is
[04:55] <Nautilus> JMicron is the interface in the external usb case
[04:55] <Nautilus> Bus 001 Device 001
[04:55] <Nautilus> erm, Device 003
[04:56] <Nautilus> ID 152d:2329 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron (etc)
[04:56] <Nautilus> hw is there
[04:56] <Blue1> Nautilus: kewl - let's try:  df -h
[04:56] <Nautilus> df -h
[04:56] <Nautilus> oops lol
[04:56] <Blue1> Nautilus: that will tell us what's free and what's used on the drive
[04:57] <Nautilus> no /dev/sdb1
[04:57] <Nautilus> thats the usb drive
[04:57] <Blue1> Nautilus: did you mount it?
[04:57] <Nautilus> tried, anyways
[04:57] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i restart my system logger?
[04:58] <Nautilus> Blue1: right-click on icon, Mount Volume.
[04:58] <Corey> [THC]AcidRain: /etc/init.d/rsyslog (or whichever one you're using) restart
[04:58] <Blue1> Nautilus: let's see if blkid can find it:  sudo blkid
[04:58] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i find out which one im using?
[04:58] <bullgard4> Corey: Thank you for commenting.
[04:58] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:58] <AlecTaylor> I can't install grub. More info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62051/unable-to-install-grub - What should I do?
[04:59] <Blue1> AlecTaylor: this may help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[04:59] <Nautilus> Blue1: /dev/sdb1: UUID="8f2f4cbe-923c-48b4-a1af-5bfa0c7d34cf" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[05:00] <Corey> [THC]AcidRain: ls /etc/init.d |grep log
[05:00] <Nautilus> ext2 and ext3??
[05:00] <JRobinskY> god how long should it take to make a 480 gig partition bootable?
[05:00] <Blue1> Nautilus: kewl now we can mount it
[05:00] <Blue1> Nautilus: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[05:00] <[THC]AcidRain> Corey, can i ask you one more question?
[05:01] <[THC]AcidRain> im setting up an alias to forward emails. is this the proper syntax: acidrain: "| php -q /var/www/AcidShower/SMS/test.php"
[05:01] <JRobinskY> i think thats why windows wont boot or even show as an option. that partition wasnt checked off as bootable. i checked it, but its taking forever. i see the spinning thing working lol
[05:01] <rypervenche> Anyone know the name of the ISO archive viewer in Gnome or Ubuntu?
[05:01] <rypervenche> When you right-click on an ISO it pops up and allows you to view the contents of an ISO without extracting it.
[05:02] <Blue1> rypervenche: it depends on how the iso is mounted hang a sec
[05:02] <Blue1> rypervenche: this may help:  http://pkill-9.com/mounting-an-iso9660-iso-file-in-linux-ubuntudebian/
[05:02] <Nautilus> Blue1: oh, I didn't know to put /mnt at the end when I tried to do it from cmd earlier. This seems like it did something.
[05:02] <mopar67> i have a laptop that won't stop overheating, no matter what i do.
[05:03] <Corey> mopar67: Talk to the vendor?
[05:03] <Blue1> Nautilus: now open up nautilus, go to file system, then mnt folder and your usb drive should be there
 It's an '03.
[05:03] <Corey> mopar67: Hardware failure (such as a fan) seems likely.
[05:04] <Blue1> Nautilus: yeah it has to have somewhere to access it, so it needs a mount point
 I've taken it apart. New fan. New heatsink. New thermal paste. Still overheats.
[05:04] <Nautilus> Blue1: i think that worked but now it's not in "Computer" anymore. It went... somewhere
[05:05] <Corey> mopar67: How is this a ubuntu issue, then?
[05:05] <Blue1> Nautilus: don't panic - did you go into the file system, and navigate to the mnt folder?
[05:05] <rypervenche> Blue1: Can I mount an ISO that's aleady on a mounted drive?
[05:05] <mopar67> Is there a hardware channel?
[05:05] <Blue1> rypervenche: yes
[05:05] <Corey> mopar67: ##hardware
[05:05] <Nautilus> oh right, it moved into the current file system.  I see!
[05:05] <mopar67> thanks.
[05:06] <mopar67> join/ #hardware
[05:06] <Nautilus> Blue1: geez, thanks. I feel so dumb, but honestly *nix don't make it easy
[05:06] <Blue1> Nautilus: kewl - you owe me coffee someday.
[05:06] <mopar67> join #hardware
[05:07] <Blue1> Nautilus: you are just not friends yet (you and linux) -- takes time - there are lot of recipes, etc on http://www.pkill-9.com - things I learned.
[05:08] <Nautilus> i like linux fine but use it for limited things
[05:08] <mopar67> join/ ##hardware
[05:08] <Nautilus> and it's time to upgrade from 8.04lts to 10, and I wanted to see my clonezila backup files live befoer I try upgrading live OS
[05:09] <Nautilus> i haz files :)
[05:09] <Blue1> Nautilus: it takes time - but if you have other issues, come back and ask.  odds are somebody here may have seen it before
[05:09] <Blue1> kittehs alive!
[05:09] <Blue1> okay awk need a break
[05:09] <Nautilus> okay thanks
[05:09] <Nautilus> I'm guessing I'll have issues when i upgrade. lols
[05:17] <kg> when i install 11.04 or 11.10beta1 (both alternate, AMD64), i keep getting "installation step failed" on "select and install software". I'm using a software raid config. PC is brand new. I have logs on a USB drive
[05:17] <kg> ive looked at the logs but i cant work it out
[05:18] <Htmlevo> Hi
[05:19] <zetheroo> Just got me an Android tablet ... I am so having major withdrawls right now ... I want Ubuntu on this thing :P
[05:21] <furyoshonen> I am new to Ubuntu, are there any antivirus, firewall, or anti-spy ware programs I should be running?
[05:21] <Runo> Heya! To get straight to the point: Does anyone know if netinstall uses another partitioner than the graphical installer? First usually succeeds partitioning my (half dead) Eee901, while the second always fails?
[05:21] <zetheroo>  furyoshonen: not needed ... just enjoy!
[05:22] <cnz> how do you access the user groups in 11.10
[05:22] <danny_> Hello.  I could really use some help on with a keyboard problem.  It seems that my MacBook Pro's keyboard is not being recognized once I get to the login screen.  A USB keyboard is working just fine though
[05:22] <zetheroo>  furyoshonen: if your sharing files etc to Windows machines you may want to have an AV running just for the sake of others ... but for you yourself... not needed
[05:22] <syn-ack> cnz, That would be a question for #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <danny_> If anyone has any input it'd be appreciated
[05:23] <Runo> ?and?would it be possible to use the netinstall partitioner in an install with predownloaded packages (not internet connection dependent)?
[05:24] <furyoshonen> thanks zetheroo
[05:25] <zetheroo> furyoshonen: np
[05:28] <concernedbutokay> Hi everyone
[05:28] <concernedbutokay> Hi~! I was wondering, I'm running a livecd puppy in virtualbox on a windows host. There's a forum that I like to go to that is currently flagged as "This site may harm your computer" by google. What are the chances of an infection carrying over into the host or router?
 Am I safe or should I still stay away?
 It's just some forums for general discussion of a show, so I wouldn't be downloading any files or the like.
[05:28] <FloodBot1> concernedbutokay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <tnm_> anyone knows what is DST compensation.
[05:29] <concernedbutokay> tnm_ sound like daylight savings time related stuff
[05:30] <concernedbutokay> only a guess, though
[05:30] <furyoshonen> concerned... don't go to the site... but if you still want to go make sure that you have Noscript, adblock, and flashblock installed as addins on your web browser
[05:31] <concernedbutokay> furyoshonen, okay, if there's any risk of infection even in this environment, I'd rather justwait until the host fixes the issue =P
[05:31] <concernedbutokay> furyoshonen, thanks!
[05:31] <furyoshonen> often its not the content on the actual site, but the adds that contain malicious scripts.
[05:32] <furyoshonen> Yeah, don't go, better safe than sorry
[05:32] <bmh> I'm getting errors mounting the loopback device when attempting to istall from CD. My CD images look fine. I've tried 11.04 and 10.04 and encounter the same error.
[05:33] <neodarkness> Hello Guys, Im having very very severe (SIC) problems... See... My laptop is kinda old and overheats if the processor goes at full speed, so I NEED the aproppiate cpu governor to be set to ondemand. I recently borched my install and Im trying to get 11.04 installed, but even on livecd it overheats and shuts down before I get to install it. Ive install cpufrequtils and modprobed powernow-k8 and cpufreq ondemand, but I cant get it
[05:34] <danny_> Hello.  I could really use some help on with a keyboard problem.  It seems that my MacBook Pro's keyboard is not being recognized once I get to the login screen.  A USB keyboard is working just fine though
[05:34] <neodarkness> Theres like 1000 threads on the forum on these problem, but none answered
[05:34] <kg> buy a new computer
[05:35] <Corey> danny_: Check dmesg for keyboard issues.
[05:35] <musings> danny_: does the macbook pro keyboard work on other OS?
[05:35] <neodarkness> btw, I know its possible, since I did it last time, but I don´t remmber what the trick was :S
[05:36] <primary> neodarkness, acpi is a bitch. turn your laptop into a desktop and get a better heat sink and fan
[05:36] <primary> also i can't get mplayer to compile with w64codecs found in /usr/lib64/codecs
[05:36] <primary> i mean it is like 'lol no'
[05:36] <neodarkness> Man, i know I have to get a new one, but thats not the point... I know it´s possible, ive done it before, but can´t remember how
[05:37] <primary> neodarkness, well those 1000 threads might help you rekindle your memory
[05:37] <zetheroo> neodarkness: if your laptop is overheating with any OS it's a sure sign of something probably going wrong with the hardware
[05:38] <zetheroo> neodarkness: when was the last time you opened it up and gave ti a thorough clean, replaced the thermal paste etc?
[05:38] <primary> prescott in a 14" thin form
[05:38] <neodarkness> Ive never done it... xD
[05:38] <primary> neodarkness, do that
[05:38] <neodarkness> but thats not the main issue rioght now
[05:38] <primary> anti-static gloves/wristband
[05:38] <primary> yeah it is
[05:38] <neodarkness> what i need is getting the cpufreq?ondemand working
[05:39] <neodarkness> man my laptop was working today, the problem is I can´t get cpufreq?set to change the cpu speed
[05:40] <neodarkness> it currently works only in performance and its and old AMD processor
[05:40] <zetheroo> (3:38:50 PM) primary: anti-static gloves/wristband    -   hehe
[05:40] <jtrag> neonoe: I've seen AMD Processors Explode they get so hot LOL
[05:41] <jtrag> definitely dust it out
[05:41] <zetheroo> AMD - ouch ...
[05:41] <neodarkness> yeah... they suck
[05:41] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: does the fan spin at all?
[05:41] <jtrag> was just happening to my Toshiba Qosmio Laptop and it was just caked with dust inside
[05:41] <neodarkness> yeah
[05:41] <jtrag> especially if you smoke around them
[05:41] <pythonirc101> has anyone tried wubi on windows 8? Doesnt seem to work.
[05:41] <jtrag> then the dust really sticks
[05:41] <neodarkness> hahaha
[05:41] <pythonirc101> The problem is the boot screen
[05:41] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: ok ... so open her up and clean it out ...
[05:41] <pythonirc101> no ubuntu there
[05:41] <jtrag> Windows 8 Doesn't even "Work" yet
[05:41] <jtrag> lol
[05:41] <pythonirc101> any ideas if this can be fixed?
[05:41] <neodarkness> Ive got to open it, im just a bit scared since Ive never done it before
[05:41] <dfilinto> oi
[05:41] <jtrag> FK Winblows
[05:41] <jtrag> lol
[05:42] <pythonirc101> jtrag: Its working on my machine -- at least booting...
[05:42] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: remoce the fan from the system board and replace the thermal paste ..., then reassemble
[05:42] <jtrag> Windows 8 looks like something that should be on a tablet
[05:42] <dfilinto> god night
[05:42] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: what machine is it?
[05:42] <neodarkness> xD man, i know i have to do that
[05:42] <dfilinto> for ours
[05:42] <primary> all cpus explode
[05:42] <primary> if they get hot
[05:42] <jtrag> pythonirc101: I'm not even gonna bother installing it
[05:42] <primary> i mean the new x86 ones
[05:42] <primary> after 486
[05:42] <neodarkness> but the single most pressing concern is that i cant get cpufreq to work xD
[05:42] <primary> pop
[05:42] <pythonirc101> anyone knows how to make wubi work on 8 yet?
[05:42] <FloodBot1> primary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: it may not be a concern at all once you clean the thing out
[05:42] <primary> FloodBot1, i'm not flooding
[05:43] <jtrag> Try updating your BIOS
[05:43] <zetheroo> FloodBot1 cannot keep up ...
[05:43] <neodarkness> Its a 3 or 4 years old toshiba satellite with a turion 64x2
[05:43] <dfilinto> sorry, i an brazilian
[05:43] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: satellite ... argh
[05:43] <pythonirc101> is anyone playing blu ray discs on ubuntu here?
[05:43] <static_void> nick static_void_
[05:43] <neodarkness> its not the bios, since i had it working these morning
[05:43] <jtrag> see if there's any BIOS updates for it
[05:43] <jtrag> it might help some
[05:43] <pythonirc101> Anyone using creative x-fi for sound under ubuntu?
[05:43] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: got a model number?
[05:43] <neodarkness> ummm
[05:44] <neodarkness> let me check underneat it
[05:44] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: should be beneath it
[05:44] <jtrag> also, reset your CMOS and then load the Defaults/Optimized Defaults in BIOS
[05:44] <furyoshonen> I think windows 8 is another reason I have switched to ubuntu
[05:44] <neodarkness> A215-S7437
[05:44] <pythonirc101> windows 8  = windows 7
[05:44] <zetheroo> manny4099
[05:44] <uoou> hello, I have a question: Is there any way, beyond setting up a whole chroot thing, of tricking a program into thinking something other than / is /
[05:44] <jtrag> I switched to Mac instead of Winblows and I'll always use Linux
[05:44] <zetheroo> :P
[05:44] <pythonirc101> Mac != Linux
[05:45] <pythonirc101> Apple is the new MS ?
[05:45] <jtrag> I prefer openSUSE Linux but Ubuntu is definitely one of the best Distros out there...
[05:45] <furyoshonen> yeah but without the same license or support
[05:45] <jtrag> I run a Hackintosh
[05:45] <pythonirc101> jtrag: Thats the way to go
[05:45] <pythonirc101> Any payment to Apple is sin
[05:45] <pythonirc101> in any form
[05:46] <furyoshonen> mas isn't Linux, mac in unix
[05:46] <jtrag> I have Mac OS X 10.7.1 running (THE NEWEST LION) on my PC which I built for less than $3000 and it's the same as a $14,000+ Mac Pro
[05:46] <jtrag> LOL
[05:46] <zetheroo>  neodarkness: ok looking at it now
[05:46] <jtrag> Mac OS is based off of Free BSD
[05:46] <furyoshonen> similar but not the same
[05:46] <jtrag> yeah
[05:46] <pythonirc101> well the apple tax is not the same for sure
[05:47] <jtrag> nice thing is, you can compile and use apps for All three OS's
[05:47] <neodarkness> Im actually downloading the 11.10 beta to see if the new kernel works any better xS
[05:47] <jtrag> on Mac OS X
[05:47] <pythonirc101> jtrag: what mb did you use? how hard was it to install?
[05:47] <jtrag> EVGA x58 3 Way SLi Classified Edition E760
[05:47] <jtrag> wasn't hard at all really
[05:47] <pythonirc101> i've a machine i'm playing with
[05:47] <pythonirc101> win 8 right now
[05:47] <pythonirc101> wud like to try hakintosh
[05:47] <jtrag> core i7 920 D0 Stepping Model @ 4.001 Ghz
[05:47] <pythonirc101> what do i need?
[05:48] <jtrag> 12 GB Corsair Dominator 1600 Mhz DDR3 Tri-Channel RAM
[05:48] <jtrag> etc...
[05:48] <furyoshonen> jtrag 3000$ is a lot to spend on a computer I hope you are doing video editing, and NEED all that power
[05:48] <Atharva> Hi... is there any spread sheet to pdf converter available ?
[05:48] <jtrag> http://www.hackintosh.com
[05:48] <jtrag> that's the only link you need...
[05:49] <pythonirc101> apple hasnt sued them yet?
[05:49] <pythonirc101> jtrag: are you using apple mouse/kb or general ones?
[05:49] <uoou> like anyone would voluntarily use an Apple mouse
[05:49] <Htmlevo> Hi
[05:50] <jtrag> I'm using a Razer Mamba Mouse and Razer Tarantula Keyboard
[05:50] <jtrag> they even have a Mac Driver for the Razer Mamba
[05:50] <furyoshonen> the US supreme court, says that hacking your own computer is not illegal
[05:50] <jtrag> lol
[05:50] <furyoshonen> giving instructions how to do so isn't either
[05:50] <Mneumonic> installing OSX on any anti mac hardware is technically breaking the Mac EULA
[05:50] <jtrag> I also have an Apple Branded computer… it has an Apple Sticker on it...
[05:50] <jtrag> anti-mac hardware?
[05:50] <jtrag> that would be all pc hardware
[05:51] <Mneumonic> sorry, non-mac hardware
[05:51] <jtrag> they use Intel Architecture now lol
[05:51] <neodarkness> one thing I dont really undertand is that /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ does not exist... it only gets as far as /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/
[05:51] <furyoshonen> jtrag is fine as long as he doesn't infringe on copywright by "steeling" Mac os x
[05:51] <Atharva> anyone ?
[05:51] <pythonirc101> What is MAC EULA and when did anyone sign it? :)
[05:51] <jtrag> and in their TOS or whatever it says that Mac OS must be installed on a Mac/Apple "Branded" computer… mine is… it has an apple sticker...
[05:51] <jtrag> I never even saw it LOL
[05:52] <Mneumonic> When you install Mac OSX you are agreeing to it, its how they get people to agree
[05:52] <zetheroo> neodarkness:  here is the documentation ... go to page 186 ... it's a 15min job!!!  http://tim.id.au/laptops/toshiba/equium%20a210%20satego%20a210%20satellite%20a210%20a215%20pro%20a210.pdf
[05:52] <pythonirc101> ah i see
[05:52] <jtrag> oh is that that real long think I clicked okay to because it gave me no choice but to click okay or quit the installation?
[05:52] <pythonirc101> how does one change that license and then burn the CD?
[05:52] <Mneumonic> yea thats it
[05:52] <pythonirc101> I want to write there...if you install this OS, All apple money is mine...then agree to it?
[05:52] <jtrag> No I own a mac
[05:52] <jtrag> several actually
[05:53] <jtrag> that's what made it possible (well easier) for me to turn my PC Into a working Mac Clone
[05:53] <jtrag> http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=169&t=25343
[05:53] <jtrag> there, that's the only post/forums you'll need if you're interested in learning about it
[05:53] <jtrag> it's rather interesting… especially if you're a geek like me lol
[05:54] <zetheroo> who is using WIndows 8?
[05:54] <zetheroo> I saw screenshots of it ... looked horrid
[05:54] <Atharva> !enter | jtrag
[05:54] <neodarkness> is the linked pdf meant to help me open the laptop?
[05:54] <zetheroo> neodarkness:  yes sir
[05:55] <jtrag> ubottu: okay
[05:55] <zetheroo> neodarkness: did you check it out?
[05:55] <jtrag> k
[05:55] <jtrag> Anyone see the new Mandriva Linux?
[05:55] <zetheroo> neodarkness: I don't know if you even have to remove the LCD like they say ... you may just be able to slip the fan out with the LCD attached
[05:55] <jtrag> it's sweet
[05:56] <jtrag> Ubuntu is still better, but I'm really digging the new Mandriva
[05:56] <zetheroo>  jtrag: in regards to looks? or features?
[05:56] <jtrag> and the new openSUSE is just friggin awesome
[05:56] <neodarkness> Im on a old xp pc so im kinda not used to it, but im on it. Nevertheless, what i truly need is setting cpufreq to ondemand :S
[05:56] <jtrag> looks, and features
[05:56] <jtrag> especially the new package management system and all
[05:56] <jtrag> you should check it out
[05:56] <jtrag> I think it's Mandriva 11 if I'm not mistaken
[05:57] <zetheroo> will do ;)
[05:57] <jtrag> cool
[05:57] <jtrag> Linux Mint is based off of Ubuntu and another good Distro to keep an eye on
[05:57] <pythonirc101> jtrag: can your machine play blu rays natively? I guess you dont have a blu-ray player on it, do u?
[05:57] <AndroUser> Testing ,this is ubuntu ?
[05:57] <jtrag> although: openSUSE is by far the Ultimate Desktop Linux Distro
[05:58] <zetheroo> yes, Mint is one of the distros I test out in VB
[05:58] <jtrag> yeah it plays blu rays...
[05:58] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[05:58] <jtrag> burns them too
[05:58] <zetheroo> AndroUser: this is ...
[05:58] <AndroUser> Thanks
[05:58] <thechad90000> I've got a question. Right now I'm running Ubuntu on my iMac...is a thinkpad a good way to go for a laptop if I'm going to run only Ubuntu on it
[05:59] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: yes, yes and YES
[05:59] <thechad90000> zetheroo: sounds like you've done this?  I've seen the sight and everything's so customizable that I just don't even know what to do.  no matter what the os...a keyboard just straight up is the most flexible input device..
[06:04] <grendal-prime> sorry thats "tablet experience"
[06:04] <zetheroo> thechad90000: the ones to go for are the T, X and W series
[06:04] <zetheroo> thechad90000: what you end up with depends on your needs and budget
[06:05] <ubuntu_> elo
[06:05] <grendal-prime> tablet experience == blows  IMOP
[06:05] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:05] <AndroUser> LOL wowo I can hardly take in that you say this in irc,,, everyone else I just found this app on my evo 4g  ...
[06:06] <grendal-prime> was that for me?
[06:06] <zetheroo> ??
[06:07] <thechad90000> zetheroo: Yeah I saw the T20 or something for like $700
[06:07] <grendal-prime> anyway...anyone got advice on this stupid THOR movie problem?
[06:07] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: ummm the T20 is about 10+ years old
[06:08] <thechad90000> It was on the front page of the site
[06:08] <thechad90000> Haha
[06:08] <AndroUser> Well night.
[06:08] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: T420 is where we are at now
[06:08] <grendal-prime> i cant watch the movie..because of some new DMR thing..  I own 4 copies (because i own a video store)  and i cant watch it.
[06:08] <thechad90000> zetheroo: I meant to type T420
[06:08] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: ah yes ... well the T420 is a mean little machine
[06:09] <grendal-prime> whats a good channel for that sort of thing?
[06:09] <bullgard4> http://projects.gnome.org/seahorse/: "With seahorse you can: Cache your passphrase so you don't have to keep typing it." -- What is "my passphrase"?
[06:09] <Lasers> grendal-prime: DRM*
[06:10] <thechad90000> zetheroo: That's good to hear. I'm just trying to get as much information about them as possible because I've always heard they're the best. Are there too many issues when Ubuntu on it instead of Windows?
[06:10] <ArchMage> how do i get invited to the java chat room
[06:10] <grendal-prime> thanks man...im jumping in the wayback machine now...
[06:10] <AndroUser> grendal-prime, look up the new encryption that they put on the new cd's dvd's multimedia ... Its not that hard to crack /or play ... But getting to find the sit info is a little hard so just a heads up
[06:11] <ex0> k
[06:11] <zetheroo> thechad90000: honeslty? ... they have been the best for me with running Linux ... more than Linux on any other systems ... since the Thinkpads (T, X and W) stick with well-known, high quality hardware
[06:11] <grendal-prime> by the way there is nobody in drm
[06:12] <thechad90000> zetheroo: Appreciate it. I'm pumped about getting one
[06:12] <grendal-prime> AndroUser, the thor is different
[06:12] <hot2trot> anyone have any way I can tag any file, not just videos and music?  I tried extended file attributes, but it doesn't work over sshfs...
[06:12] <Lasers> bullgard4: I'll guess. Your "passphrase" is your sudo password.
[06:12] <ruslan_osmanov> hi! I've installed apt-cacher-ng on our LAN. It works on ~35kB/sec on client machines, while we've 200kB/sec when downloading from mirror server. How do I configure LAN bandwidth for apt-cacher-ng?
[06:12] <zetheroo> thechad90000: you can pick the T410 up as well ... they are still very good and getting cheaper all the time ... try Ebay if you want
[06:13] <jkfbupt> hi all
[06:13] <bullgard4> Lasers: Thank you for commenting.
[06:13] <zetheroo> thechad90000: I buy Thinkpads for my friends and relatives ... they never go back
[06:13] <kravlin> anyone know why an installer for the server edition would just stop with the purple background?
[06:13] <Lasers> bullgard4: When you use ssh-keygen, it'll generate a ssh key. There will be an option to type in passphrase. So I'm certain that's what it is.
[06:14] <thechad90000> zetheroo: That's good to hear. I think for my first one I really just want to buy something straight from the company...brand new. I'll probably be getting it here in a few weeks.
[06:14] <thechad90000> zetheroo: I want to make sure it has all the specifications I want
[06:14] <Lasers> bullgard4: For auto-ssh, it's usually left optional -- but it's extra security to have registered/identified key on the server then the passphrase thing.
[06:14] <zetheroo> thechad90000: are you in the USA?
[06:15] <thechad90000> zetheroo: Yes
[06:15] <AndroUser> zetheroo, how good are they ?
[06:15] <zetheroo> AndroUser: used them for over 10 years and don't bother throwing my money at anything else ;)
[06:15] <grendal-prime> bullgard4  if you are doing something to automate logins...(like scripts that excute remotely) you need to not passphrase the keypair.
[06:16] <grendal-prime> passphrase on sshkeygen == military grade security.
[06:17] <tasslehoff> I have a system with "normal" /boot, and the rest of the system in an encrypted LVM volume. After dist-upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, my system only boots every other time.
[06:17] <grendal-prime> wich is good..and you can still automate login with a keymanager..but lets face it..i dont care about your porn collection.
[06:17] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: the T420s is the slim version of the T420 ... more awsomer ;) ... but you pay a bit more for it
[06:18] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: are you after 14" or 15"?
[06:18] <tasslehoff> The first time I get nothing after the BIOS screen. The next time I get into Grub.
[06:18] <grendal-prime> JESUS (IM PRAYING NOT CURSING)  I JUST WANT TO WATCH THOR!!
[06:18] <thechad90000> zetheroo: I'll probably get the 15"
[06:18] <bullgard4> grendal-prime: I do not understand your English "you need to not <verb>". Say it in other words, please.
[06:19] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: oh, so then your going for the T520
[06:19] <grendal-prime> bullgard4 are you using ssh-keygen to make an ssh keypair?
[06:19] <thechad90000> zetheroo: I suppose so I guess...haha...honestly I'm not sure what the main differences are between the different models
[06:20] <bullgard4> grendal-prime: My question at the outset was: "http://projects.gnome.org/seahorse/: "With seahorse you can: Cache your passphrase so you don't have to keep typing it." -- What is "my passphrase"?" Can you answer this question?
[06:20] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: the T4xx are 14" and the T5xx are 15"
[06:21] <thechad90000> zetheroo: That's the only difference between the two?
[06:21] <kravlin> hey, i'm trying to get the server installer to install. can someone help me? it's crashing out after it scans the hardware.
[06:21] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: the T range is 1st class business, the X range is 1st class mobility, and the W range is 1st class production
[06:21] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: That's pretty much it ;)
[06:22] <grendal-prime> probably has something to do with passphrase to your localmachiens keyring.  its like a ...well hmm like a master keychain thing...you put your password in one time and then everytime you hit a website that requres a password...it looks it up in the keyring.
[06:22] <grendal-prime> but you have to put in the right password when it askes the first time (per loged int session)
[06:22] <thechad90000> zetheroo: Well alright then...that seems easy enough. It seems though that the T range, which looked to be the cheapest, could take care of everything I need the Thinkpad for
[06:22] <grendal-prime> look into keyrings.
[06:23] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: then you have the EDGE, which is not Thinkpad even though Lenovo slapped the badge on it, and the L series which is a cross between the R and SL series which have been fazed out ...
[06:23] <grendal-prime> that was all for bullgard4
[06:23] <AndroUser> zetheroo, well IM tried of junk ... And windows users(though I like the os..) IM getting tired of them blaming me when something goes wrong for their lack of skills... Then tell them Linux can and is a better match for there slow,or old computer... But they  are shy when I would give a free copy and say I would pay to get it fix ,with no money... Rrrr!
[06:23] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: the L series is the "Budget" Thinkpad ... the "Eco" Thinkpad ... forget it  ...  stick with the good stuff - T,X,W
[06:24] <thechad90000> zetheroo: sounds like a plan. I really appreciate your help with everything.
[06:24] <grendal-prime> bullgard4 if i remember right the first time you use it it asks you to set it up and by that it means...set a password..then afterwards everytime you do anything that has to do with login info it asks for that password again..you plug it in and it caches...retrieves any password that has to do with web browsing.
[06:25] <grendal-prime> BAM!
[06:25] <zetheroo>  thechad90000: no probs .. if you want you can PM me and I'll give you my support email address
[06:25] <grendal-prime> that help bullgard4?
[06:25] <AndroUser> grendal-prime I guess reset it
[06:26] <ThomasB2k> How do I access the GRUB cli when on boot I'm taken directly into Ubuntu without a grub menu?
[06:26] <hot2trot> anyone have any way I can tag any file, not just videos and music?  I tried extended file attributes, but it doesn't work over sshfs...
[06:26] <grendal-prime> AndroUser, ?
[06:27] <rww> ThomasB2k: hold down shift key at boot
[06:27] <m6locks> ThomasB2k: hold shift when booting
[06:27] <ThomasB2k> thank you
[06:28] <ninwa> Hey guys, this would be the first time I've installed ubuntu while an existing Windows installation was there. Can I expect a pretty smooth experience for side-by-side?
[06:28] <ninwa> I think this has improved hugely and was wondering if it was mostly painless now with the ubuntu installer.
[06:28] <zetheroo> ninwa: you should be fine ;)
[06:28] <AndroUser> grendal-prime like go in and find it and reset the keyring... Its a guess..  but something on your PC is messed up... But this is stopping it
[06:28] <Someguy2> hey guys
[06:29] <zetheroo> ninwa: unless of course you removed your Windows partition ... :P
[06:29] <AndroUser> Hi
[06:29] <Someguy2> does Ubuntu support SSDs?
[06:29] <Someguy2> and dual screens
[06:29] <AndroUser> I think so
[06:29] <AndroUser> Yes
[06:29] <ninwa> zetheroo, I haven't done anything yet. I was about to pop the CD in and install it, and usually I do this with intentions of making a clean installation
[06:29] <ninwa> I want to install it beside my Windows installation, which is currently the full partition. My understanding is the installer will resize the partition (I hope?) :)
[06:29] <ninwa> the full hd, single partition*
[06:30] <zetheroo> ninwa: clean install is always the best ... if for no other reason to get rid of Windowz :D
[06:30] <urlin2u> ninwa, do you know how many partitions you have now on the HD?
[06:30] <ninwa> urlin2u, just one with Windows
[06:30] <urlin2u> ninwa, did you install it yourself?
[06:30] <ninwa> urlin2u, yes, I built the computer :) no system restore partition or anything like that
[06:31] <ninwa> I work on computers for a living, I just never had an opportunity to use ubuntus installer to do this exactly
[06:31] <urlin2u> ninwa, no boot paretition?
[06:31] <Someguy2> Anyof you tried Wine and play Portal 2 in Ubuntu
[06:31] <Someguy2> where is the Ubuntu Database of Drivers BTW
[06:32] <ninwa> urlin2u, maybe I learn something today :) I did the installation myself, but I'll be honest I never knew there was a need for a "boot partition" I thought that the boot record was sort of this mysterious thing hidden at the beginning of the HD but was "some other thing"
[06:32] <ninwa> so, in that case, there must be a boot partition then, I suppose this is why there's always a 100MB partition created by the windows installer as "System Reserved" or some such
[06:33] <s10loridr> can anyone help me with changing  the ssh port on 10.04 ubuntu server? the default ssh_config all the options are #'d and if i uncomment Port 22 and change it to anything else and reload ssh server i get CONNECTION REFUSED
[06:33] <urlin2u> ninwa, there is a need for one but if you let the windows autoinstall at least with W7 it makes one.
[06:33] <urlin2u> ninwa, no need I meant
[06:33] <s10loridr> tried this on 2 different machines that are running 10.04 and had the same issue on both
[06:33] <Someguy2> ninwa, did you use that installer for Windows to install Ubuntu?
[06:33] <ninwa> urlin2u, it created one it seems
[06:34] <Someguy2> i forgot what it is
[06:34] <ninwa> WUBI? Not on this machine.
[06:34] <Someguy2> yeah
[06:34] <ninwa> Nope, this is just a W7 install, and urlin2u as you mentioned, W7 seems to have created a boot partition, will this affect my ubuntu installation?
[06:34] <AndroUser> zetheroo no font do that... Even though most of Linux stuff can be find its just having it there for the small Linux apps written for windows which  wine it a moody thing that likes to fight.... Mm so IM been here a long time and I now that you'll be force to get back to windows for something... Like online collage... Thats a rrrr... Well you get what I mean
[06:35] <bullgard4> Lasers: Thank you very much for your help.
[06:36] <me-1> hi how can I ...echo "blacklist snd-cmipci" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf...as root...?
[06:36] <Lasers> bullgard4: You're welcome.
[06:36] <urlin2u> ninwa,  asked about the amount, I ssupect you know already the limitations of primaries 4 to a HD, ubuntu will go to a extended and boot, so 3 primaries and a extended, with logicals inside I build them ahead of time in gparted, and use the something else option to get the ubuntu in a premade logical.
[06:37] <urlin2u> ninwa, I guess the side by side works fine, you are subject to the immovable paging files in windows so be prudent.
[06:37] <luqman_> i got this error after running fglrxinfo comman http://pastebin.com/JXrjPnqh
[06:37] <AndroUser> Unmoveable?
[06:39] <ninwa> you cannot shrink a drive beyond the point where any unmovable files are located
[06:39] <ninwa> urlin2u, ps: the windows disk management tool was well aware of this and is currently shrinking my partition to half
[06:40] <eddie> Hi I'm having an issue with loging in. When I try and log in I get the following error: "Could not update ICEauthority file/home/ibok/.ICEauthority"
[06:40] <ninwa> and that was pleasantly fast.
[06:40] <Guest26356> morning. i have this http://nopaste.info/dca3ca3c64.html script in my rc.local. it gets execued when booting, but host is empty. if i manually run it later it works as desired. any hints?
[06:40] <ninwa> on that note, cheers, see you on the other side
[06:40] <Thelmaria> me-1: sudo -s ; echo "blacklist snd-cmipci" >> /etc... ; exit.
[06:40] <Guest26356> eddie, maybe delete the file once, or make sure it belongs to you?
[06:41] <eddie> ok thanks tankdriver
[06:41] <urlin2u> ninwa, cool the W7 virtual partitioner saves a few lives I will bet. :D
[06:42] <me-1> Thelmaria,  what was problem with line I posted...?
[06:43] <AndroUser> urlin2u and money **)
[06:44] <ninwa> So as it turns out, if you hit "View Release Notes" in the Ubuntu installer it opens firefox, and since I'm connected to the internet already, voila! :)
[06:44] <ninwa> It recognized that it was installing alongside W7 though, and was a simple click.
[06:46] <woulfe> Hello.  I am trying to get my resolution higher than 640x480.  I already installed the proper nvidia drivers, but according to xrandr, the command was not able to find the size of gamma for output default.  Can somebody help me resolve this issue?
[06:48] <kwixson> Having trouble connecting to shares on Windows XP from Natty. Followed some tutorials, read forum threads. Nothing's helped. Getting "Failed to retrieve share list from server" error.
[06:51] <sahan7776> hi
[06:51] <sim-paf> hello experts
[06:51] <sahan7776> need help
[06:51] <sim-paf> i want to install matlab in ubuntu natty 11.04
[06:52] <sim-paf> it gives me the error of /lib/libc.so.6
[06:52] <sim-paf> i created the link file from /usr/lib/libc.so to /lib/libc.so.6
[06:53] <sim-paf> now it gives me the error of permission denied
[06:53] <sim-paf> wot is wrong with it
[06:54] <nibbler_> sim-paf, strace -eopen <matlab-start-command>
[06:54] <nibbler_> what is the difference between executing a script via rc.local and doing it manually?
[06:54] <sahan7776> I'm using 10.04. There are 4 partitions in my hard disk.(40GB) /dev/sda7 is the one with ubuntu. it is 8GB and now it is going out of free space . So i want to connect /dev/sda1 which i have installed SliTaz. So please tell me how to???
[06:55] <nibbler_> sahan7776, what is SliTaz?
[06:56] <sahan7776> nibbler, it is a OS. A linux one. It is only 30MB in size. Just a toy
[07:00] <urlin2u> sahan7776, connect? both can open the other, thta is about it.
[07:00] <urlin2u> that
[07:01] <liran> 有人在吗
[07:02] <NevroPus> Will the next ubuntu release have kernel 3.x?
 yes but when i download packages all of them goes to the ubuntu partition.
[07:03] <yoshie> woulfe: post your question again.
[07:03] <woulfe> Hello.  I am trying to get my resolution higher than 640x480.  I already installed the proper nvidia drivers, but according to xrandr, the command was not able to find the size of gamma for output default.  Can somebody help me resolve this issue?
[07:03] <shag> народ подскажите как на Linux Mint поставить центр приложений от Ubuntu
[07:04] <urlin2u> sahan7776, these are ubuntu updates or from the web, change the default download on your browser if using that and have the sda1 mounted.
[07:04] <sim-paf> hi there
[07:04] <sim-paf> i got dc
[07:04] <sahan7776> ok. Thank you very much
[07:04] <urlin2u> !ru | shag
[07:04] <sim-paf> i m getting error of /lib/libc.so.6 error while runing so software
[07:04] <sim-paf> why is tht
[07:05] <sim-paf> why is tht?
[07:05] <sahan7776> bye
[07:06] <tinybird> sim-paf: there is something wrong with the loader
[07:07] <tinybird> or the linker cannot find the correct lib
[07:07] <NevroPus> sim-paf: Is there a libc.so.6 in /lib? Mine is in lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, so I just made a symlink from that to lib
[07:08] <sim-paf> tinybird: i can see /usr/lib/libc.so but no /lib/libc.so
[07:08] <NevroPus> sim-paf: If the loader for that app is hardcoded to lib, it won't find it. You could do a "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libc.so /lib/libc.so.6" so fix it
[07:09] <nibbler_> morning. i have this http://nopaste.info/dca3ca3c64.html script in my rc.local. it gets execued when booting, but host is empty. if i manually run it later it works as desired. any hints? the debug output shows that ifconfig lists all interfaces and the mac addresses are picked up correctly, just the if statment fails.
[07:09] <sim-paf> i did tried tht but didn't worked out
[07:09] <vlad__> Hey
[07:10] <tinybird> yeah, I think nibbler's method would affect
[07:11] <Defusal> sigh, is there any version of ubuntu that is stable and bug free?
[07:11] <Defusal> i just want something that works :(
[07:11] <sim-paf> tinybird:i did tried tht but didn't worked out
[07:11] <martiert> sim-paf: how didn't it work? couldn't you make the symlink, or couldn't it find it?
[07:12] <tinybird> Defusal: I think Ubuntu 10.10 is stable
[07:12] <faLUCE> hi, I have to reboot a remote machine through ssh and then exec  reboot command. Unfortunately, there's a a hardware problem on an attached usb storage device and the command reboot doesn't work. what can I do ?
[07:12] <sim-paf> no it gave some other error while mounting partitions at system startup
[07:13] <Defusal> tinybird, are you sure? 10.04 is supposed to be the LTS release, and its bugged
[07:13] <martiert> sim-paf: by making a symlink? You didn't just move the file then? A symlink shouldn't affect anything
[07:13] <sterna> faLUCE: you can use sync to flush buffers and sysrq to hard reboot
[07:14] <tinybird> Defusal: LTS means long term supported, not means no bugs.
[07:15] <tinybird> I am using 10.10, and it is very stable
[07:15] <Defusal> tinybird, I thought the LTS version is meant to be most stable, but ok
[07:15] <faLUCE> sterna: sync hangs
[07:15] <sterna> faLUCE: that means you'll just have to hard reboot
[07:15] <ohzie> Defusal: LTS is supposed to be the more stable one...but sometimes people make mistakes.
[07:16] <ohzie> Defusal: It happens. :(
[07:16] <tinybird> Defusal:LTS means the developer will maintain it in a long period
[07:16] <Defusal> I guess I will try 10.10 then, hopefully its third time lucky...
[07:17] <ohzie> Defusal: Why not try the new one?
[07:17] <ohzie> Defusal: 11.04 is the latest, it's what I'm using now.
[07:17] <faLUCE> thnks sterna
[07:17] <ohzie> Defusal: I upgraded to this from 9.04, it was a big change.
[07:17] <Defusal> because it was even worse when i tried it a couple months ago
[07:17] <tinybird> As I know, 11.04 is not stable enough.
[07:17] <ohzie> Defusal: Well, you have to switch to normal gnome and off of Unity
[07:17] <Defusal> (on multiple machine)
[07:17] <sim-paf> well some wiered error
[07:18] <ohzie> Weird, I've had no stability issues
[07:18] <martiert> sim-paf: see private
[07:18] <Defusal> which is why i was hoping the LTS would work
[07:18] <sim-paf> Permission denied
[07:18] <sim-paf> Use:not found
[07:18] <ohzie> tinybird: What is unstable in 11.04?
[07:18] <sim-paf> the  not found
[07:18] <sim-paf> Syntax error
[07:18] <Defusal> its unstable and somewhat buggy ohzie
[07:18] <Defusal> i need 100% stability
[07:18] <ohzie> Defusal: I'm asking what is unstable and buggy about it, is all.
[07:18] <ohzie> I'm not contesting
[07:18] <tinybird> some people around me use 11.04, and the X-windows system doesn't work well
[07:18] <ohzie> I'm merely curious, as I'm using it.
[07:18] <Defusal> and no bugs stopping me from being able to configure my network correctly
[07:19] <ohzie> tinybird: what part about it doesn't work?
[07:19] <matrium> hi, can anyone tell me why my windows don't have minimize, maximize, close buttons in unity?
[07:19] <Defusal> it locks up randomly on some hardware
[07:19] <martiert> sim-paf: And what is the error if you do "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.6" ?