[16:50] <coz_> jhattara,   mmm...  generally in my experience it is always best to simply reinstall fresh onto the new system...
[16:50] <jbatista> rs0832 you mean that the installation of the package does not necessarily lead to the module being recognized by python-central (or something like that) ?
[16:50] <jbatista> rs0832 OK I'll look into that link
[16:50] <complete> coz_: finding all files that contain "coke" but not "cheese"
[16:50] <rs0832> jbatista, something like that
[16:50] <jbatista> rs0832 bummer :(
[16:50] <rs0832> jbatista, ok good luck.. if it doesnt work, let me know and i'll try to find another solution
[16:51] <a_> lets make ubuntu desktop: one, clear-looking menu, one tiny dock, some buttons on desktop (everything ofc big, for emerits :) and call it ubuntu for tablets and old people!
[16:51] <a_> i know, i suck at marketing
[16:51] <coz_> complete,  ah   ok  mm  you mean like    find . -name "rc.conf" -print
[16:52] <a_> complete: yeah, when you drink coke, it's not good to eat cheese... i approve :/
[16:52] <IdleOne> !ot | a_
[16:52] <rs0832> jbatista, are you still there?
[16:52] <jbatista> rs0832 one more thing, where can I read up on how ubuntu manages the installation of the modules from the repository packages?
[16:53] <vlt_> rs0832: There's already an instance of nm-applet running. It seems to be a child of gnome-session and `ps` shows it as "nm-applet --sm-disable". Any idea?
[16:53] <complete> coz_: dont know what you mean with "like find . -name..."
[16:53] <rs0832> jbatista, you can do it an easier way... in synaptic, there is the package (python-lazr.restfulclient). try a reinstall of that and if that doesnt work, try the one on the site i gave you
[16:53] <jbatista> rs0832 yep still here
[16:53] <morgan> when installing ubuntu desktop, i will have that in addition to the server edition?
[16:53] <coz_> complete,   oh sorry            find  -name "nameyouwanttofine"   -print
[16:53] <jbatista> rs0832 ok I'll try from synaptic
[16:54] <jbatista> rs0832 I'm more of a console guy, so I've been using apt-get ...
[16:54] <complete> coz_: i said nothing about filenames. only about file contents.
[16:55] <hihihi100> i2p help pls: I compiled it in my home folder, but I have moved it to a new folder in home/compiled. I rescribed the paths in i2prouter, but i2p doesnt work, what other paths do i have to rewrite?
[16:55] <rs0832_> jbatista, sudo apt-get install python-lazr.restfulclient --reinstall
[16:55] <jbatista> rs0832_ yes that's what I did in the console
[16:55] <rs0832_> vlt_, try right click on panel>add to panel>indicator applet
[16:56] <jbatista> rs0832_ that --reinstall made no difference ... I've tried some 3 or 4 times
[16:56] <jbatista> rs0832_ that's why I tried irc now :s
[16:56] <rs0832_> jbatista, ok then sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-lazr.restfulclient
[16:56] <a_> big message below:
[16:56] <a_> yeah, that's my question: is you have tablet, would you like that gnome or unity for normal pcs? imagine that you can't click anything, you must touch it; will it be comfortable to use that interface? i don't think so. so why don't we make an Ubuntu version with everything in one place, big buttons, virtual keyboard and that stuff? so here's the final question: would you like to test it?
[16:57] <a_> and i don't mean "ubuntu tablet edition"
[16:57] <vlt_> rs0832_: Now I got two of them (battery, sound and email indicator).
[16:57] <rs0832_> vlt_, still no network manager?
[16:57] <hegemoOn> hell
[16:57] <hegemoOn> o
[16:58] <a_> i mean "normal ubuntu version, but with a lot of utilities, that will make it more comfortable to use
[16:58] <a_> "
[16:58] <vlt_> rs0832_: No
[16:58] <coz_> complete,   mm  you want to use grep for this  ... yes?
[16:58] <a_> he's away.
[16:58] <rs0832_> vlt_, try right click on panel>add to panel>notification area
[16:58] <a_> hegemo0n: :D
[16:58] <rs0832_> vlt_, and rightclick and remove one of the indicator applets
[16:58] <hegemoOn> what is the name of the indexing file service that runs in the bar in gnome and how to remove it ?
[16:59] <hegemoOn> and stop this service
[16:59] <rumpe1> hegemoOn, rightclick?
[16:59] <vlt_> rs0832_: When I add an(other) notification area it it empty
[16:59] <FrozenKnight> Whaoh, I'll say X/Gnome isn't stable yet... I've just recovered from a "failure". I guess drag'n'dropping 11000+ files is a bit too much for the system.
[16:59] <hegemoOn> rumpe1: yea ok :)
[16:59] <vlt_> s/it it/it is/
[17:00] <rs0832_> vlt_, hmm but your internet is running right?
[17:00] <ryan_languagelab> okay I've gotten the closest I've been using the nvidia driver. I can hear the gdm "welcome sound" but X doesn't seem to be running on my screen
[17:00] <ryan_languagelab> I set BusID in the device section.... otherwise it says "No screens found"
[17:00] <nikitis_> How do I kick someone off of my irc nickname?  I have the identify password, but someone apparently is using it
[17:01] <vlt_> rs0832_: "running"?
[17:01] <rs0832_> vlt_, working?
[17:01] <vlt_> rs0832_: Neither eth0 (LAN) nor eth1 (wifi) have an IP address.
[17:02] <vlt_> rs0832_: I wanted to use the nm-applet to add a wireless connection.
[17:02] <hegemoOn> than you rumpe1
[17:02] <rs0832_> vlt_, run nm-connection-editor in a terminal
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> nikitis_, you may want to ask in #freenode - if you don't get an answer here
[17:03] <rs0832_> vlt_, or system>preferences>network connections
[17:03] <SubstreamAI> I have 2 ubuntu computers on our personal LAN along with 3 Windows computers.  I have Samba installed and I can open the files on the Linux computer from the Windows computer (text files).  It will not let me save them, apparently I don't have permission.  The permissions are drwxrwxrwx???
[17:03] <vlt_> rs0832_: It doesn't show any available networks
[17:04] <rs0832_> vlt_, what doesnt show them?
[17:04] <vlt_> rs0832_: The nm-connection-editor tool
[17:04] <pr3zident> sooooooo lol in the middle of updating the kernel it was doing the file uploads and all that kernel update stuff someone told it was an unsupported kernel and i shouldn't do it so i closed the terminal.. is this going to mess up cpu when i shut it down and try to start it back up im scared to shut down
[17:04] <rs0832_> vlt_, yes.. it is only for creating connections
[17:05] <pr3zident> me * my *
[17:05] <vlt_> rs0832_: I just need the icon to show me the available connections. (The same `iwlist eth1 scan` would show me)
[17:06] <cdbs> pr3zident: was it downloading the kernel at that time? or installing?
[17:06] <rs0832_> vlt_, i thought you wanted to add a conn.. " I wanted to use the nm-applet to add a wireless connection"
[17:06] <pr3zident> it was installing
[17:07] <pr3zident> i had it downloaded already
[17:08] <alfred> how to create new partition
[17:08] <vlt_> rs0832_: Yes. Or rather: I want to be able to connect to wireless networks using the network icon in the upper right corner of the desktop.
[17:08] <pr3zident> i used make oldconfig
[17:08] <vlt_> alfred: cfdisk
[17:08] <rs0832_> vlt_, ah ok
[17:08] <pr3zident> make dep , then makebzImage
[17:08] <TheDeadCPU> When booting the 10.10 amd64 DVD, I get "The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing. The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0)." after choosing "install ubuntu"
[17:08] <alfred> vlt_, I got FATAL ERROR
[17:08] <mdpatrick> I'm running ubuntu amd64 (I have a quad core CPU), and want to get a high definition video in the MKV format to play correctly. Suggestions???????
[17:09] <TheDeadCPU> mdpatrick, VLC
[17:09] <rs0832_> alfred, did you try gparted?
[17:09] <alfred> I installed it, but I couldn t do much
[17:09] <vlt_> alfred: You need to be root, so `sudo cfdisk` should work
[17:10] <alfred> Vlt_ still the  same problem
[17:10] <subz3r0> mdpatrick, what you want is "SMPLAYER" with vdpau
[17:10] <subz3r0> google for it
[17:10] <alfred> beside I have HDD with 500GB I can see only 450GB
[17:10] <alfred> where is the rest
[17:10] <TheDeadCPU> I'll try again.
[17:10] <TheDeadCPU> When booting the 10.10 amd64 DVD, I get "The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing. The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0)." after choosing "install ubuntu"
[17:10] <yeats> alfred: to use gparted, you probably have to use a live CD - you don't want to partition the disk you're running on
[17:10] <vlt_> alfred: Ok, what fatal error do you get exactly?
[17:10] <rs0832_> vlt_, the notification area should have shown it... i guess you could try killing the nm-applet process (killall -9 nm-applet) and restart it.. i am not sure if it will temporarily turn of your connection though
[17:11] <pr3zident> if i restart will it brick
[17:11] <alfred> vlt_, FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 1: Partition ends in the final partial cylind
[17:11] <alfred>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[17:11] <vlt_> rs0832_: I have no connection currently ;-)  I'll try to restart it.
[17:11] <rs0832_> alfred, you never get the full capacity of your hard disk
[17:11] <rs0832_> vlt_, ok :)
[17:11] <mdpatrick> TheDeadCPU: I downloaded VLC, and audio doesn't play though the video appears flawless
[17:11] <alfred> rs0832_, why ?
[17:11] <alfred> 50 GB is missing
[17:11] <TheDeadCPU> mdpatrick, weird
[17:11] <alfred> I just installed it new HDD
[17:12] <vlt_> alfred: Looks like you need to use the -z option to start with an empty layout. Warning: Existing partitions will be removed (not the data itself)
[17:12] <alfred> okay
[17:13] <alfred> vlt_, Yes now I can see something
[17:13] <nit-wit> alfred, it is not missing there is just a different measurement made by the manufacturer and the actual computer, my 320 gig external is actually 298gigs
[17:13] <rs0832_> alfred, it is just the way they are made... formatting, production design, etc can reduce the usable size... in general, the bigger the hd/storage device, the more capacity you lose.. this is normal though so dont worry about it
[17:13] <vlt_> rs0832_: Do I need the "--sm-disable" part?
[17:13] <rs0832_> vlt_, yes
[17:13] <alfred> rs0832_, thanks
[17:14] <rs0832_> alfred, :)
[17:14] <alfred> rs0832_, when I create new partion. will it be primary or logical ?
[17:14] <nit-wit> rs0832_, it is the measurement
[17:14] <rs0832_> alfred, primary
[17:14] <alfred> ok
[17:14] <rs0832_> nit-wit, yes i know
[17:14] <FrozenKnight> What is the safety percentage now in ubuntu?
[17:14] <nit-wit> rs0832_, I figured you did
[17:14] <rs0832_> nit-wit, just trying to keep it simple and understandable for him:)
[17:15] <vlt_> rs0832_: "applet removed ... applet now embedded ... DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0"
[17:15] <nit-wit> rs0832_, :)
[17:15] <FrozenKnight> The memory / cpu superuser percentage
[17:15] <alfred> rs0832_, I let it bootable or ?
[17:15] <vlt_> rs0832_: But no applet appeared :(
[17:15] <rs0832_> alfred, you have to set the /boot mountpoint to it
[17:15] <vlt_> alfred: You don't need the bootable flag for linux boot loaders
[17:16] <rs0832_> vlt_, hmm.. try adding it on a different panel
[17:16] <FrozenKnight> Hmm, how do I move a heap of files from subdirectories into one other directory?
[17:16] <alfred> I quite it, and back to it, I do not see any changes
[17:16] <FrozenKnight> from the commandlien
[17:16] <FrozenKnight> commandline
[17:16] <alfred> in my HDD
[17:16] <vlt_> rs0832_: I'm away for 45 minutes. Thanks for now.
[17:17] <rs0832_> vlt_, k
[17:17] <rs0832_> vlt_, try killing and restarting without the sm-disable too
[17:18] <rs0832_> alfred, you have to click the green tick mark to apply changes if you are using gparted
[17:19] <TheDeadCPU> Failed due to unknown user id (0), I get that now when I boot the dvd..
[17:19] <alfred> rs0832_, I was going to write, but I got error there is no bootable...
[17:20] <rs0832_> alfred, hmm you are using gparted right?
[17:20] <alfred> I am using that command cfdisk
[17:20] <alfred> with -z
[17:20] <Oglop> Anyone familiar with changing settings on Ubuntu Netbook 10.10?
[17:20] <rs0832_> alfred, ah k..
[17:20] <rs0832_> alfred, i have never used that so i am not sure
[17:20] <TheDeadCPU> Failed due to unknown user id (0), I get that now when I boot the dvd..
[17:21] <findeds> hi I'm newbie here
[17:21] <coz_> Oglop,  not too familiar I actually just removed natty   but what settings do you want to change?
[17:21] <Oglop> coz_: The auto hibernate turned off would be great
[17:22] <hellhound> i am having trouple with smplayer displaying any videos... it will play the audio but not video... other movie players work.. but smplayer has the dvd control interface i like
[17:22] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, do you also get an error stdin: error 0?
[17:22] <coz_> Oglop,   mm is this the one with screensaver maybe
[17:22] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, nope
[17:22] <coz_> Oglop,   can you open a terminal
[17:22] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, does it boot anyway?
[17:22] <TheDeadCPU> Nope
[17:22] <Oglop> coz_: Honestly I cant figure out how to access any settings features with the new 10.10
[17:22] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, stuck at that screen right?
[17:23] <TheDeadCPU> Yup.
[17:23] <njero> hey #ubuntu, I have a weird problem... my mouse is CRAZY. Without touching it, it moves to the left all the screen then all the way to the right. When I move the mouse around it has a mind of its own. This has happened with 4 mice, the touchpad, and a variety of ports... any info/advice?
[17:23] <coz_> Oglop,   ok  are you able to open a terminal
[17:23] <jihedamine> Hi. Compiz is having a lag when updating the window decorator. Is it possible to fix it ?
[17:23] <Oglop> coz_: no
[17:23] <coz_> Oglop,   does   alt+F2  work
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, well, there are a few fixes claimed for this on the net, but none of them worked for me... so i remastered the disc, and updated plymouth and casper and that fixed it on 10.10
[17:24] <Oglop> coz_: no it does not
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, you can try disabling the 'splash' boot option though
[17:24] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, Yea I heard that would work.. But it's so weird that the problem is only on one pc.
[17:24] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, O'rly? elaborate.
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, yes
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, about the splash option?
[17:24] <TheDeadCPU> Yes
[17:25] <Oglop> coz_: I just got terminal up
[17:25] <coz_> Oglop,  ok     gnome-screensaver-preferences
[17:25] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, well, some of the 'fixes' on forums, launchpad,etc.. say that disabling the splash option fixes this
[17:26] <avis> hi all
[17:26] <coz_> Oglop,  there are two tick boxes  there ... untick the second one
[17:26] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, now after 30minutes something about "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0/ something"
[17:26] <avis> is there any way to extend the protection of apparmor to more than one the default profile covers ?
[17:26] <Christoffer> How do I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and then on to 10.04.1? What is the command?
[17:26] <Oglop> coz_: You are a god send my friend, thank you
[17:26] <TheDeadCPU> Then it goes to a busybox shell. rs0832_
[17:26] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, well, sounds like the same problem i had
[17:27] <Oglop> coz_: Not used to the new layout just yet.....
[17:27] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, have you tried nomodeset?
[17:27] <avis> AT&T hacks routers
[17:27] <coz_> Oleg,   might want to install  gmrun and set a keybinding for that in compiz  command plugin
[17:27] <ilovefairuz> avis: write a new profile or search for one targeting your desired app?
[17:27] <avis> cool, thanks
[17:27] <TheDeadCPU> Nope, I've never had any errors on install (as i normally use USB)
[17:27] <coz_> Oleg,  this will allow a  run dialog to open
[17:27] <Oleg> coz_, what?
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, i think the sr0 error is definitely casper... updating it should work.. ubuntu is already installed right?
[17:28] <grpace> One short question: When I do a 'service --status-all', what do [-], [+] and [?] on the left indicate ??
[17:28] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, no, this is on the live DVD
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, ah then it is casper
[17:28] <coz_> Oleg,   there is a small application named     gmrun   which will allow you to input  a command  or application and run it
[17:28] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, hmm.. I'll see if I can update it
[17:28] <avis> apparmor ftw
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, even my installation works fine but the live disc gives the error
[17:28] <coz_> Oleg,  its a run dialog
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, use uck
[17:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi!   Happy New Years Everyone            I'm looking at the "purchase" part of "Ubuntu Software Center"  and I'm wondering is "Vendetta Online"   free?  or is this an error...  Just wondering
[17:29] <Oleg> coz_, are you talking to the right person? I didn't ask anything nor talk in this channel for maybe umm... months
[17:29] <coz_> Oleg,   of you can compile  gnome-run and put it in /usr/bin  and or /usr/local/bin
[17:29] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, uck?
[17:29] <coz_> Oleg,   ah well  we just fixed the hybernate ..yes?
[17:29] <coz_> Oleg,  and you are getting used to the netbook interface ...yes?
[17:29] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, it gives you a kind of interface to synaptic during the process where you can just update the plymouth and casper packages
[17:29] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, oooo
[17:29] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, ubuntu customisation kit
[17:29] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, I'll try installing in Text mode first though
[17:30] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, yes sure.. good luck :)
[17:30] <alfred> what is the difference between extended partition and primary ?
[17:30] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, one never knows lol
[17:30] <avis> last night i could not login to my ubuntu despite being very sure i was typing the correct passowrd, i was running no outside services
[17:30] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, :)
[17:31] <Oleg> coz_, no idea what you're talking about, I'm pretty sure you have the wrong person
[17:31] <CyL> Afternoon folks... is it possible to manually mount ntfs partitions under Ubuntu without root priviledges? This is puzzling me for sometime now..
[17:31] <Oleg> there is a guy here who does use my nick at time and I ALWAYS have to ghost him
[17:31] <coz_> Oleg, yep i do apologies
[17:32] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know?
[17:32] <coz_> Oleg,  apparenlty   "oglop"  left
[17:32] <avis> it was very odd, my eth0 and eth1 diappeared, then my network-manager-gnome vanished
[17:32] <rumpe1> grpace, + started, - stopped, ? unknown
[17:32] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, thanks for the help though! I'm not used to asking but I didn't find anything about it :p
[17:32] <Peter_SP222> Hi!
[17:32] <trism> ShapeShifter499: looking at their site, you can download the client for free, but the game requires a subscription to play (beyond the free trial)
[17:32] <grpace> rumpel: Thank you!!
[17:33] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, no problem :) it worked for me (took me nearly a day to figure out) so i hope it is useful for you too :)
[17:33] <ShapeShifter499> trism, ohhhh
[17:33] <ShapeShifter499> trism, cool
[17:33] <ShapeShifter499> trism, thanks
[17:33] <Oleg> coz_, well I'm glad we figured that out
[17:33] <Oleg> happy new years though
[17:34] <ilovefairuz> Oleg: enable nick protection
[17:34] <grpace> alfred: Let's say you have a 500Gb drive, and partition it out in 5 separate 100Gb partitions.  The initial partition is the 'primary' partition, and the remaining 4 are 'extended' partitions.
[17:35] <osbonkers> hi
[17:35] <alfred> grpace, thank you, was waiting for an answer, so I just make only 1 as primary, the rest as extendd
[17:36] <dob_> how can i get the current chunk size of a software raid?
[17:37] <loorenzas> hello
[17:37] <findeds> hi
[17:37] <loorenzas> i have a problem
[17:37] <ilovefairuz> !details | loorenzas
[17:37] <ilovefairuz> hello findeds
[17:38] <grpace> alfred: Yes.  I find it useful to partition a big drive into sections, and keep related apps, data in their respective partitions (system files in 1), publishing apps in another, etc.).  Not only does it help me keep things separated and organized, it also saves quite a bit of time during backups...  You only have to backup the particular partition that has changed.
[17:38] <CyL> Afternoon folks... is it possible to manually mount ntfs partitions using ntfs-3g without root priviledges? This is puzzling me for sometime now..
[17:38] <findeds> hi ilovefairuz, I've been using Ubuntu 3 days from now. Can you give me some advise? :)
[17:39] <Oleg> ilovefairuz, I thought I did
[17:39] <ilovefairuz> !manual | findeds
[17:39] <findeds> I'm really confused in switching from Windows..
[17:39] <grpace> rumpel: Thank You again !!  Happy New Year everyone !!
[17:39] <rs0832> findeds, what confuses you ?
[17:39] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832, Text install seems to be working :D
[17:40] <findeds> Windows is BIG, a ton of applications..I switched to Linux bcoz I'd red a lot of blogs saying this is a better OS to use for programming
[17:40] <loorenzas> i installed xchat and i vant to go in room -  irc.omnitel.net - but i cant can somebody help me to configurate it?
[17:40] <findeds> sorry for the bad english, not my 1st language
[17:40] <rs0832> TheDeadCPU, k thats good :)
[17:41] <BluesKaj> findeds, programming with ?
[17:41] <rs0832> findeds, ok, and?
[17:41] <loorenzas> my english is also bed.
[17:41] <ilovefairuz> loorenzas: you're on the wrong server, this is freenode, disconnect and then: /server irc.omnitel.net
[17:42] <findeds> I'm looking for a better computer programming environment..
[17:42] <rs0832> findeds, for any language in particular?
[17:42] <ilovefairuz> findeds: learn to use the shell (bash) .. it will help a lot
[17:42] <findeds> sorry, what is shell (bash)?
[17:42] <ilovefairuz> !terminal | findeds
[17:43] <findeds> I would like to learn Python first
[17:43] <rs0832> findeds, ubuntu is great for python :)
[17:43] <rs0832> findeds, and lots of it's apps use python too
[17:44] <alfred> grpace, you are right
[17:45] <This_Guy> I'm thinking of making a script to download and install all updates, then using this script in cron. How would I go about creating the script?
[17:45] <findeds> In the Philippines, we are though Visual Basic as a kind of a big deal in programming..But as I red in a lot of site, studying it gives you a bad programming..etc
[17:45] <findeds> What can you say about that?
[17:46] <Gayana> Hi
[17:47] <findeds> @rs0832 is there any IDE that I can use for better learning of python?
[17:47] <rs0832> findeds, the language BASIC, was created to be simple, thus helping new learners to cope... some programmers feel that in trying to achieve simplicity, bad programming practices were also encouraged by the language... visualbasic is just a dialect of basic
[17:47] <P_Kable> Hi, what is a normal FPS count with glxgears ?
[17:47] <rs0832> findeds, yes...
[17:48] <rs0832> findeds, IDLE is the default python ide.. if you want something more featurefull, you can use eric ide
[17:48] <ilovefairuz> This_Guy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[17:48] <rs0832> findeds, both are available in the ubuntu repositories
[17:48] <hellhound> i am having trouple with smplayer displaying any videos... it will play the audio but not video... other movie players work.. but smplayer has the dvd control interface i like
[17:48] <findeds> @ubottu I often use the terminal when installing an archive file for linux..
[17:49] <This_Guy> ilovefairuz: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[17:49] <Gimbli> @P_Kable Depends on the hardware you have, the window size where the gears are displayed...
[17:49] <findeds> I've downloaded IDLE, it's really nicer than the others I've tried in Ubuntu Software Center :)
[17:49] <rs0832> findeds, ubottu is a bot :)
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> findeds: ubottu is a bot, not a real human
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> !brain > findeds
[17:49] <rs0832> findeds, thats good :)
[17:49] <findeds> @rs ah..hahaha! ok, this is my first time in IRC.hehe
[17:50] <rs0832> findeds, :) no problem
[17:50] <ilovefairuz> findeds: you can use tab for autocompleting nicks (names) on IRC
[17:50] <rs0832> findeds, see my pm
[17:50] <findeds> @ilovefairuz how?
[17:50] <ilovefairuz> findeds: type the first few letters of the name and press tab
[17:51] <findeds> ah ok! got it.tnx :)
[17:51] <rs0832> findeds, :) you'll get the hang of irc in no time with those tutorials
[17:51] <findeds> although it only shows the possible names in my case..?
[17:51] <findeds> when I press tab
[17:52] <tgies> wow upstart is still garbage, cool
[17:52] <findeds> I'm using emphaty
[17:52] <findeds> *empathy
[17:52] <This_Guy> ilovefairuz: The link is only for security updates. I'd like to be able to update common programs, as well as PPA's.
[17:54] <rs0832> i gotta go now.. happy new year, everyone!
[17:54] <bombshell> Hello
[17:54] <findeds> ilovefairuz: ah ok..when I type the first letter does not autocomplete, It must be at least twice.hehe
[17:54] <Gimbli> rs0832: a happy new year to you, too
[17:54] <bombshell> How do You disable ipv6 ? I believe that's what it is that's hindering me to associat to this wifi
[17:54] <ilovefairuz> findeds: just enough letters to get to a specific nick
[17:55] <Abhish> Ok, there was a power outage and now I can't log in. I enter my password and it just goes back to the user selection... wtf?
[17:55] <findeds> ilovefairuz: thanks :)
[17:55] <BluesKaj> findeds, @ doesn't work on irc, just type the nick
[17:55] <rumpe1> Abhish, check, if CAPS-LOCK is active
[17:55] <Abhish> rumpe1 I did, and it isn't.
[17:55] <findeds> BluesKaj: I got it, thanks :)
[17:55] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, actually IP (4 or 6) has nothing to do with associating with wifi - after it's connected it can make a difference.
[17:56] <ilovefairuz> This_Guy: it could be used for normal updates too, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html  is a more generic guide
[17:56] <rumpe1> Abhish, well... you could try ssh... or check the logs
[17:57] <bombshell> ZykoticK9: Certain routers doesn't support ipv6 and it's a common occurence ipv6 to conflict with such routers
[17:57] <ilovefairuz> Abhish: perhaps your /etc/passwd file (that lists usernames) was ruined, i think you better get a live cd and check around your files
[17:57] <bombshell> ZykoticK9: My wife assocaites then dessocaites after it complains that ipv6 is not present
[17:57] <bombshell> hehe, wife
[17:58] <bombshell> s/wife/wifi/
[17:58] <bombshell> ipv6 router is not present*
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, well, i have NO idea if it's even possible to disable IPv6 in modern Ubuntu... best of luck.
[17:58] <findeds> I'm confused..If Microsoft created Windows, who created Ubuntu/Linux?
[17:59] <findeds> why is it free?
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[17:59] <rumpe1> findeds, linux -> linus
[17:59] <findeds> rumpe1: why linus? isn't it linuX?
[17:59] <rumpe1> ubuntu is from shuttleworth *i guess*
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> bombshell: gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf ... find "disable ipv6"
[18:00] <rumpe1> findeds, linus torvalds is the creator of the first linux-kernel
[18:00] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, it seems that link doesn't cover anything after 8.04
[18:00] <rumpe1> and he is still the top head for the kernel-development
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> findeds: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:00] <This_Guy> ilovefairuz, Thanks
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> This_Guy: you're welcome
[18:01] <findeds> rumpe1: wikipedia.hehe
[18:02] <Frenk> hey can you help me out and run nmap -T4 -A -v -PE -PS22,25,80 -PA21,23,80,3389 <IP_ADDRESS> | I want to test my new psad ans snort and check my iptables configurations on this server! Would be rly great! I dont need any reports on the scan! Thx
[18:03] <avis> is there a web of trust for PPA's ?
[18:03] <avis> 020
[18:03] <findeds> I tried 8.04 before installing 8.10, the latter one has a better setup interface :)
[18:03] <avis> leaf
[18:04] <findeds> what are you guys saying? I'm nosebleeding..
[18:04] <ilovefairuz> rumpe1: findeds: Ubuntu is built from so many Free Software components that has been developed over the years by different people. Some of the most significant parts are: the Linux kernel (core) by Linus Torvals, the GNU Userland tools by the GNU project, and the GNOME user interface by the GNOME foundation. Canonical (the company behind Ubuntu) assembles, develops, polishes, and integrates these components and many others together to buil
[18:05] <findeds> ilovefairuz: great info :)
[18:05] <alfred_lost> back I destroyed my ubuntu :D
[18:05] <rumpe1> ilovefairuz, and his name is Torval_d_s ... :P
[18:05] <alfred_lost> now back to ask questions about Disk partition
[18:06] <findeds> which is harder to create,the linux kernel or the gnome ui?
[18:06] <Frenk> +1 ti ilovefairuz
[18:06] <Frenk> for*
[18:06] <alfred_lost> I am reinstalling my ubuntu, and I want to create few partition,
[18:06] <ilovefairuz> rumpe1: my mistake, it's Linus Torvalds
[18:06] <alfred_lost> now I need to select the first partition, to make it boot
[18:07] <findeds> what do you think is harder to create, the linux kernel or the gnome ui?
[18:07] <ilovefairuz> findeds: the #ubuntu channel is for questions related to ubuntu itself,  join #ubuntu-offtopic if you would like to digress
[18:08] <avis> does 10.04.1 have problems validating corrrect passwords at GDM login ?
[18:08] <findeds> ilovefairuz: ok, I
[18:08] <avis> like -- for no reason at all, you can't login, and your sure your password is right ?
[18:08] <findeds> ilovefairuz: ok, I'll trying going to there first.tnx
[18:08] <avis> i also had issues where in NetworkManager both eth0 and eth1 disappeared.  shortly after, NetworkManager, disappeared.
[18:09] <Nowaker> hey. I got an urgent question :) do you know of any music player on ubuntu that would load whole mp3 to memory on play start? I got a slow netbook and external dmcrypted drive and I get 10-seconds pauses randomly
[18:09] <ilovefairuz> avis: is your hard disk healthy? check its SMART report
[18:09] <avis> ilovefairuz, absolutely.  all of them
[18:10] <avis> they all pass SMART
[18:11] <compdoc> avis, Ive recently installed 10.04.1 LTS, and the server version. I did a lot of figuring things out, installing software, and lots of reboots. Never had an issue loggin on
[18:11] <compdoc> Ive installed it on two different machines
[18:12] <ilovefairuz> Nowaker: you could use tmpfs to have a filesystem directory that's backed by memory, not on disk, copy your music files there and play them
[18:15] <bluefoxicy> any idea why firefox highlights everything as misspelled?
[18:15] <mdpatrick> How do I know if my package manager is installing the amd64 build of any given package (like mplayer)???
[18:15] <Nowaker> ilovefairuz: but this is gonna take some time to configure :) and as I need it right now, changing the player is only reasonable way. thanks, though
[18:15] <bluefoxicy> Study with an external private guitar teacher -> "an" and "private" are ok but the rest have a red underline
[18:15] <ilovefairuz> bluefoxicy: probably lacking the correct dictionary extension
[18:16] <xangua> mdpatrick: aree you using 64bit OS ¿
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> ilovefairuz:  on a fresh install?!
[18:16] <mdpatrick> xangua: yes
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> ilovefairuz: it suggests "studiewillug"
[18:16] <mdpatrick> xangua: It seems like sometimes the package manager is good about finding the amd64 version, but sometimes doesn't? Im just wondering how to confirm the package im about to install is the correct build :/
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> oh, ok, right click and select the language
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> that works
[18:17] <mdpatrick> Is there a command to get info about a package before I install it via aptitude?
[18:18] <Bennage> can anyone tell me why when I do 'fdisk -l', nothing comes up?
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> mdpatrick: apt-cache show packagename
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> Bennage: sudo
[18:18] <nit-wit> Bennage, use suo
[18:18] <nit-wit> Bennage, *sudo
[18:19] <Bennage> stupid question. sorry
[18:19] <Bennage> next question... (probably equally as stupid
[18:19] <nit-wit> Bennage, you will have to get in line behind me
[18:19] <AbhiJit> how to change keyboard input method inscribus?
[18:19] <Bennage> at least you nkew sudo :P
[18:19] <Bennage> you win
[18:20] <Bennage> fdisk and gparted only show 3 of the 5 disks I have plugged in
[18:20] <Bennage> I can see them in the /dev directory, but they're just not showing up
[18:21] <nit-wit> Bennage, have you used the drop down in gparted in the top right corner
[18:21] <compdoc> the disks are connected to the mobo, or a raid controller, or what?
[18:21] <nit-wit> compdoc, I thought raid as well.
[18:22] <mdpatrick> If I manually install a package, can I then use a package manager to go out and grab the dependencies I didn't install?
[18:22] <infid> my number pad sometimes stops working until i reboot. how can i fix this without rebooting?
[18:22] <shcherbak>  mdpatrick manually == source?
[18:23] <hihihi100> ki
[18:23] <Bennage> nit-wit: yeah
[18:23] <Mrcheesenips> You should be able to mdpatrick
[18:23] <mdpatrick> scherbak: wget from a packages.ubuntu.com URL
[18:23] <mdpatrick> Mrcheesenips cool how
[18:23] <AbhiJit> how to change keyboard input method in scribus?
[18:23] <AbhiJit> ctrl space is not working
[18:23] <Bennage> it only displays three drives
[18:23] <shcherbak> mdpatrick: you mean .deb file?
[18:23] <AbhiJit> i am using ibus
[18:23] <Mrcheesenips> Search through the synaptic package manager mdpatrick
[18:23] <Bennage> sda, sdb, sdc
[18:24] <nit-wit> Bennage, are any of the not showing ntfs and or hoding a MS partition a actual OS
[18:24] <xangua> !aptoncd | mdpatrick
[18:24] <nit-wit> *holding
[18:24] <tomas__> hola a todos
[18:25] <JoshDreamland> From what I can tell, Ubuntu is using an old version of GNOME that still uses Bonobo for panel applets, yes?
[18:25] <OptikKore> yeh so im installing ubuntu 10 and i just partitioned my hd's and a message popped up saying /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, blah blah blah and asks if its a GPT partition table, do i say yes or no?
[18:25] <xangua> depend of what ubuntu version you are refering JoshDreamland
[18:25] <mdpatrick> xangua: In no way was that what I needed but that's awesome and I'm writing it down, thanks.
[18:26] <_biskit_> is anyone available for a little one on one help with compiling and installing a couple of packages?
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> 10.10, xangua
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> I gather that Natty finally did something about it
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> but GNOME 3 is doing away with panels entirely
[18:26] <Mrcheesenips> _biskit_, from source?
[18:26] <_biskit_> yes
[18:26] <ilovefairuz> mdpatrick: sudo gdebi packagename.deb
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> Meaning Ubuntu is, as usual, behind the times
[18:26] <Mrcheesenips> Did it come with a readme or install instruction?
[18:27] <shcherbak> ilovefairuz: sould be gksu
[18:27] <ilovefairuz> shcherbak: nope
[18:27] <shcherbak> ilovefairuz: no? sorry then, update... done.
[18:27] <xangua> JoshDreamland: no idea what you mean, gnome 3 has not been released
[18:28] <JoshDreamland> xangua: From what I can tell, it's coming very soon
[18:28] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: ubuntu (and most other distros) use only stable/released software
[18:28] <JoshDreamland> As in, before the release of Natty
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> I like panels.. they are easy to understand and work with.... :)
[18:28] <_biskit_> Mrcheesenips - yes it came with install directions - but the file folders in linux has me baffled at times - Glib - gtk are what I am after
[18:28] <JoshDreamland> Okay, the switch to Dbus was made long before Maverick's release, and I have no way of obtaining the new headers
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: and, as far as I know, ubuntu is going to use the unity inteface, instead of the gnome 3 workspace
[18:29] <JoshDreamland> Or have I missed something?
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> Dr_Willis++
[18:29] <JoshDreamland> Oh great, does that mean we'll have a Gubuntu fork?
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> I really miss the old Windowmaker warf and the apps for it.
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: what's your ubuntu support question ?
[18:30] <JoshDreamland> How can I get a header defining the macro PANEL_APPLET_OUT_PROCESS_FACTORY?
[18:30] <JoshDreamland> aside from opening Gedit and typing #define PANEL_APPLET_OUT_PROCESS_FACTORY
[18:30] <pa> hi
[18:30] <pa> how can i install xtables-addons on maverick 10.10?
[18:30] <JoshDreamland> Is there a development package that has the new headers in it?
[18:30] <AbhiJit> help
[18:31] <elb0w> What else can I use other than brasero to burn images?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> JoshDreamland:  if you are trying to compile a newer version of an app in the repos. you can use the 'sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE' command to install all needed deps. Normally.
[18:31] <pa> it provides a tar.bz2 file into /usr/src, which i tried to extract and generates modules/xtables-addons. but then im stuck
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  theres several in the repos. I like k3b.
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> !burn | elb0w
[18:31] <Bennage> nit-wit: they are all blank
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  gtoaster is popular also
[18:32] <JoshDreamland> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu's GNOME headers are out of date. Even in the repos.
[18:32] <Bennage> nit-wit: one ofthem has a buggered partition table after interrupting the disk being zeroed
[18:32] <sevenseeker> howdy, I have a Dell Studio 1747 with Ubuntu 10.10, but I have no sound on the built in speakers.  However, I do have sound with headphones.  Googling for a number of hours, I found that the information was about drivers and no sound at all, or ironically about built in speakers working but no headphone sound.
[18:32] <elb0w> Dr_Willis++
[18:33] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: is that a GNOME 3 macro?
[18:33] <bluezone> sevenseeker, try aplay -l
[18:33] <sevenseeker> I have found many references to the numerous possible areas of volume and device control and all are non-muted, and I have (I believe) tried every combo of choices.
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> How to disable TouchPad, i have try gsynaptics, but looks can't work, always enable after some time.
[18:34] <bluezone> sevenseeker, and paste bin it or something
[18:34] <Bennage> nit-wit: which is why I wanted to use gparted in the first place, but for some reason it's now not showing another disk, which I've not even touched.
[18:34] <JoshDreamland> ilovefairuz: No.
[18:34] <nit-wit> Bennage, have you tried a bootable partitioner like gparted alone or partedmagic there are a bunch
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> I hate TouchPad, always move cursor position when i typing.
[18:34] <sevenseeker> aplay -l yields http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312554/
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> Any simple way to disable TouchPad?
[18:34] <hx> ubuntu
[18:34] <nit-wit> Bennage, might just need a reboot you never know
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> I use ThinkPad E40 0578-A64
[18:34] <infid> my number pad sometimes stops working until i reboot. how can i fix this without rebooting?
[18:34] <Bennage> i'm just using a copy of ubuntu NBR live cd right now
[18:34] <JoshDreamland> It is an update to PANEL_APPLET_BONOBO_FACTORY that all the current GNOME panels use
[18:34] <chiques> Anyone know of a way to add timestamp on to minicom?
[18:35] <JoshDreamland> Applets*
[18:35] <bluezone> sevenseeker, your plugged in to HDMI?
[18:35] <nit-wit> Bennage, which release
[18:35] <Bennage> 9.10 i think
[18:35] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: in what GNOME release?
[18:35] <sevenseeker> not plugged into anything, the headsets work on either input, but no sound on the built in speakers
[18:35] <JoshDreamland> Let me check
[18:36] <elb0w> Dr_Willis, lol I installed k3d opposed to k3b
[18:36] <elb0w> was like wtf, this isnt a cd burner
[18:36] <bluezone> sevenseeker, :O give me a second
[18:36] <nit-wit> Bennage, I would try a Maverick or so or get the live partion cd or thumb. Sometimes the booted gparted cd works better
[18:36] <Bennage> i'm digging out my copy of gparted standalone now
[18:37] <bluezone> sevenseeker, i think for some reason it is outputting to card 1 and not card 0
[18:37] <sevenseeker> bluezone, sure thing :)
[18:37] <compdoc> does ubuntu use a default security setup? It doesnt seem to use selinux, for instance
[18:38] <bluezone> sevenseeker, i'm no ubuntu pro but that's what i think is happening and i don't recall how to set the default one, sec
[18:38] <ilovefairuz> !apparmor | compdoc
[18:38] <compdoc> thanks
[18:38] <nit-wit> Bennage, are you familiar with Hirens a good multi tool bootable cd. http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download.html
[18:38] <Bennage> never heard of it
[18:39]  * Bennage downloads
[18:39] <Bennage> wait, i think I have heard of this
[18:40] <Bennage> might even have it somewhere
[18:40] <JoshDreamland> bah, the only results for it are from all the repositories of code that made the switch
[18:40] <bluezone> sevenseeker, i had a similar issue yesterday where i couldnt set my usb soundcard as default
[18:40] <bluezone> sevenseeker, still trying to figure out how :S
[18:41] <pa> can someone tell me how to install xtable-addons-source
[18:41] <bluezone> Does anyone know how to set a default device with aplay for sound output?
[18:41] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: perhaps you should ask in a GNOME development channel? the very least you should know before coding is the release version of the API you're trying to use
[18:42] <JoshDreamland> All I can see ilovefairuz, is that it was around May
[18:42] <bluezone> pa, i would assume apt-get install 'that'
[18:42] <phoenix_firebrd> happy new year
[18:42] <JoshDreamland> ilovefairuz: I'm signed in to irc.gnome.org
[18:42] <Lala_Chersi> hi there can some one tell me how to run my pasport on ubuntu 10.10
[18:42] <banjo597> Hey guys
[18:43] <sevenseeker> bluezone, that reminds me... here is tail of my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312557/
[18:43] <pa> bluezon, it creates a tar.bz2 in /usr/src
[18:43] <pa> i untarred, but then i dont know how to compile the module
[18:43] <System_Default_0> Hi, I'm having an issue with this:  firmware-b43legacy-installer
[18:44] <System_Default_0> When I'm trying to install something an error appears saying something like subinst post script returned exit code 1.
[18:44] <System_Default_0> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and I don't know what to do. Help me, please.
[18:44] <bluezone> sevenseeker, :O
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> System_Default_0:  so the normal sta and b43 drivers dont work eh?
[18:44] <JoshDreamland> ilovefairuz: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/AppletsDbusMigration
[18:45] <System_Default_0> Dr_Willis: Exactly
[18:45] <banjo597> hey guys anyone know how to create usb drivers
[18:45] <shcherbak> pa: in source directory ./configure
[18:45] <chiques> banjo597, writing drivers is pretty involved. What are you looking to do?
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> banjo597:  clarify what you are wanting to do exactly.
[18:46] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: i've been to this, and still no release version specified, even in the related bug
[18:46] <shcherbak> pa: also read README or INSTALL files.
[18:46] <pa> shcherbak, the thing is there's no configure
[18:46] <JoshDreamland> Welcome to FOSS, I suppose.
[18:46] <Lala_Chersi> how to access files on passport drive .... it is not prompting for password
[18:47] <pa> and i read the README , it says to use either make (tried, doesnt work, says no rule to make some target) or make-kpkg
[18:47] <pa> also tried
[18:47] <System_Default_0> Dr_Willis: What's the solution for this issue?
[18:47] <pa> it ends with some error in the end
[18:47] <pa> and no .deb is created
[18:48] <shcherbak> pa: what thing is it? What executables does it have?
[18:48] <Maahes> um, anyone know how to use the aptitude ncurses program? I'm trying to sort packages by their current state flag, but after reading the manual I still am not sure how to go about this (Yes I have to use the ncurses program, I lost X)
[18:49] <bluezone> sevenseeker, yeah thats it, you have to modify that i soppose
[18:50] <nirazio> !antivirus
[18:50] <sevenseeker> bluezone, I added the two alias lines recently (from a couple of google posts) and the last two lines were added longer ago with 10.04 to ironically get the headphones to work while the built in speakers worked great
[18:50] <pa> shcherbak, it is a kernel module
[18:50] <bluezone> sevenseeker, haha
[18:50] <System_Default_0> Aaarrgghh!! This is so frustating. Ubuntu 10.10 LTB
[18:50] <System_Default_0> Long Time Bug
[18:50] <pa> for some additional iptables extensions
[18:50] <pa> or targets
[18:51] <bluezone> sevenseeker, so everything is fine now?
[18:51] <Maahes> 10.10 isn't an LTS release
[18:51] <Gartral> System_Default_0, Long Time Bug?
[18:51] <BLZbubba> can everyone who uses flash in their browser please vote for this: https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1152
[18:51] <sevenseeker> bluezone, sadly no; whether with those alias lines or not
[18:52] <Maahes> System_Default_0: exit code 1 just means it failed, look in syslog, dmesg, or dpkg logs to find out why
[18:52] <bluezone> sevenseeker, humm
[18:52] <sevenseeker> bluezone, taking sound for granted I can't remember the last time I used it, so can't really say "a recent kernel (or other) update caused it" :(
[18:53] <Amacidia_> Can someone help me in installing torrentflux on an ubuntu 10.04 server ? I've ran apt-get install torrentflux and setup mysql ect. Now when I go to http://server/torrentflux I get a 404 not found error.
[18:53] <Amacidia_> I've also restarted apache
[18:54] <goddard> has anyone documented setting up a newsletter server in a book or online tutorial?
[18:54] <Maahes> not to ask a stupid question, but you made those dirs, and made a user for them, and set their perms ja?
[18:55] <Maahes> or at least made sure the torrent flux package did so if you shouldn't have to
[18:55] <System_Default_0> Maahes: I know but I didn't find any solutions to this issue.
[18:55] <BISMAY> happy new year to everybody
[18:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:55] <BISMAY> :)
[18:55] <otzi> hello. I've seen bugs like this being open in debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566076 what's the reason for switching from links to w3m?
[18:55] <bluezone> sevenseeker, can you send me your updated alsa-base.conf?
[18:55] <Maahes> System_Default_0: have you found anything other than "exit status 1"?
[18:55] <BISMAY> rs0832:hii
[18:55] <bluezone> sevenseeker, because this doesn't make any sense now that i think about it lol
[18:56] <ubuntu_> how can I start lxde from the console? (I used telinit 1 first, and now I wanna come back to LXDE again, but if I issue "startx" it goes directly to gnome, which I wanna avoid)
[18:56] <System_Default_0> BISMAY: Happy new year to you too.
[18:56] <Maahes> System_Default_0: also, what kind of ubuntu install are you using
[18:56] <MrUnagi> how do you open an application remotely?
[18:56] <BISMAY> rs0832:may i ask aquestion?
[18:56] <goddard> has anyone documented setting up a newsletter server in a book or online tutorial?
[18:56] <Maahes> ubuntu_: if you're using gdm sudo service gdm restart then select lxde
[18:56] <MrUnagi> when i do it in an ssh session, it complains that there is no X server, which tells me it is trying to open on this side
[18:56] <markfletcher> anyone here using a ppc mac right now?
[18:57] <Maahes> goddard: I'd recommend just learning how to set up wordpress
[18:57] <sevenseeker> bluezone :) I am wearing a hole in my head from scratching it, lol.  Here is the whole file.  While it has the two bottom alias's still, I noticed no difference with or without their presence.  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312571/
[18:57] <markfletcher> just wondering if anyone is running ubuntu on ppc...
[18:57] <Maahes> markfletcher: only if they're running an old version
[18:57] <System_Default_0> Maahes: You meant how did I install it?
[18:57] <Maahes> ubuntu no longer puts out ppc kernels
[18:58] <wizardslovak> hello people
[18:58] <Maahes> System_Default_0: Your system yes, more specifically: Is it a liveusb?
[18:58] <Amacidia_> anyone around using torrentflux ?
[18:58] <ubuntu_> Maahes: Maahes why doesn't ubuntu put out ppc kernels anymore
[18:58] <wizardslovak> is anyone of you using asus mobo with hdmi?
[18:58] <wizardslovak> i cant make hdmi audio to work :(
[18:58] <Amacidia_> need some help with getting this running on my box at home.
[18:58] <erik_> hello
[18:58] <Maahes> ubuntu_: *shrugs* too much work for little gain on a dying processor.
[18:58] <goddard> has anyone documented setting up a newsletter server in a book or online tutorial?
[18:59] <System_Default_0> Maahes: I installed it from a CD. I downloaded the Iso.
[18:59] <erik_> I'm having issues with installing the sun jre on Kubuntu 10.04... can anyone help?
[18:59] <bluezone> sevenseeker, any idea what we would need to change the index to ? lol
[18:59] <BISMAY> can any body tell me if i can install ubuntu 64 bit using wubi??
[18:59] <Maahes> goddard: you want a CMS software, easiest to learn is probably wordpress
[18:59] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I tried the "service" thing, but it doesn't work with lxde
[18:59] <BISMAY> in windows 7 32 bit
[18:59] <Maahes> System_Default_0: so it's a normal desktop install
[18:59] <System_Default_0> Maahes: Yeah.
[18:59] <MrUnagi> how do i open settings through ssh?
[18:59] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I would just want to be able to come back to x-windows as I was before issuing telinit 1, but without having to restart my system
[19:00] <erik_> anyone?
[19:00] <Maahes> ubuntu_: I didn't say sudo service lxde restart, I said gdm, you then choose the lxde session afterward.
[19:00] <edbian> MrUnagi: Settings for what?
[19:00] <MrUnagi> edbian: system settings
[19:00] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I issued as you said: service gdm restart, but it doesn't work
[19:00] <ubuntu_> Maahes: it says "unknown instance"
[19:00] <Maahes> ubuntu_: do you have gdm installed?
[19:00] <Maahes> oh!
[19:00] <jon8> is there a way to display "line numbers" in NANO?
[19:01] <nirazio> how to update clamav antivirus engine?
[19:01] <Maahes> sudo service gdm star
[19:01] <Maahes> t
[19:01] <sevenseeker> I am not sure at all really, but I 'think' the "aplay -l" output reveals the intel audio is 0 (and the HDMI is 3) and from my googling seems to suggest that is good
[19:01] <ubuntu_> Maahes: If I hadn't , would I be able to function with lxde as I normally do? :S
[19:01] <compdoc> freshclam updates the databases
[19:01] <edbian> MrUnagi: You can modify the various files in /etc using nano over an ssh connection
[19:01] <sevenseeker> oops, bluezone ^^^
[19:01] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I guess I have, since if I issue "gdm" from the command line, it complains: "Couldn't connect to system bus...blahblah"
[19:01] <bluezone> sevenseeker, hummmm
[19:02] <MrUnagi> edbian: i am viewing the screen remotely, but the resolution is too high, and i cannot access any of the applications, so i am trying to launch settings so that i can change the resolution
[19:02] <deww> jon8: alt-C does something similar, not exactly what you wanted tho
[19:02] <jon8> yeah
[19:02] <jon8> taht just tells me the line i'm on
[19:02] <Maahes> System_Default_0: you might use synaptic to look at the files it installs, and the packages it depends on, this may be a dependency issue, you might also try grabbing a newer version from a ppa or natty if you can
[19:02] <jon8> i guess thats better than nothing really..
[19:02] <Maahes> ubuntu_: did you try service gdm start?
[19:02] <jon8> but having a column on the left of the editor displaying what every line number is
[19:02] <Maahes> if that doesn't work try reload
[19:03] <jon8> i just got auto syntax highlighting enabled, auto indent enabled
[19:03] <jon8> so having a line count would be about the last thing ;(
[19:03] <Maahes> I removed nano so I can't help
[19:03] <jon8> why?!
[19:03] <Maahes> I use vim
[19:03] <jon8> nano > vim
[19:03] <jon8> i can't stand vim
[19:03] <jon8> well i guess my problem with vim is, i can't even use it
[19:03] <edbian> MrUnagi: What program are you using to view the screen remotely?
[19:04] <MrUnagi> logmein or teamviewer depending
[19:04] <Maahes> no it doesn't, really, honestly, and truely, once you learn vim's input system, its far more powerful, flexible, and efficient. And this is coming from someone who failed at learning vim twice.
[19:04] <judgepg_> Hi Folks, what's the recommended method for backing up one USB to another (of equal size)?  Will the dd command do the best job here?
[19:04] <MrUnagi> but ubuntu is in a virtual machine
[19:04] <bluezone> sevenseeker, out of curiosity what happens when you change the value at the last line to enable_msi=999
[19:04] <jon8> Maahes hmm..
[19:04] <MrUnagi> edbian: ^
[19:05] <Frenk> what kind of hash is that: 	BAh7BiISODguMTk4LjU3LjI0MmkH
[19:05] <Maahes> judgepg_: I would say "it should" but I'm not sure about boot sectors
[19:05] <Maahes> if you're trying to duplicate bootable usb's
[19:05] <Maahes> if not, use rsync
[19:05] <System_Default_0> Maahes: Ok, Thanks.
[19:05] <edbian> MrUnagi: There is a name for the resolution settings dialog.  Something like... gnome-settings-manager  or something.  You can use x forwarding and call this at the shell.  What is the purpose of the remote machine?
[19:06] <bluezone> sevenseeker, since thats the only place i see your device 0 mentioned
[19:06] <judgepg_> Maahes: Yes, i'm trying to duplicate bootable usb's.  I think dd is copies the actual bytes
[19:06] <plc90210> i have an internet connection on my laptop yet firefox isn't working, anyone have any idea why that may be?
[19:06] <System_Default_0> Ok, tganks to all. And happy new year. Bye.
[19:06] <sevenseeker> bluezone, heh, ok, I believe I have to reboot and not just climb the dependencies for snd-hda-intel and reload the mods
[19:07] <sevenseeker> bluezone, brb
[19:07] <Maahes> judgepg_: well it doesn't take that long, and you'll know after one try :)
[19:07] <MrUnagi> edbian: right now, remote backup
[19:07] <Maahes> and I'm pretty sure it will work
[19:07] <judgepg_> Maahes: good point brother :)
[19:07] <Maahes> just dd is easy to screw up with
[19:08] <edbian> MrUnagi: Than I suggest you just learn the bash command and administor your system entirely cli (it's not as hard as it sounds).  In fact, it's probably easier than figuring out how to change the resolution remotely
[19:08] <AnxiousNut> Anyone else facing launchpad 404 not found when updating?
[19:08] <joeyeye> can someone help with a grub2 winxp flashing cursor no boot situation ... ?
[19:10] <sevenseeker> bluezone :( no joy
[19:10] <bluezone> sevenseeker, fml lol
[19:11] <bluezone> sevenseeker, okay i have an idea
[19:11] <bluezone> sevenseeker, damnit i lost the command
[19:11] <XiaolinDraconis> can someone tell me whats going wrong? i installed grub2 on a usb stick and then dropped in tiny core linux and made a grub.cfg with proper menu entry. first time i did this it worked just fine then i reformatted drive and tried again and its failing
[19:12] <sevenseeker> bluezone: heh, I hear you there as well
[19:14] <Gartral> I can't sync with ubuntu-one, i've tried reinstalling but that didnt help at all
[19:15] <bluezone> sevenseeker, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/269027
[19:15] <GeekSquid> XiaolinDraconis: follow every step as you did before... more help in #grub (tiny core linux is not supported here) this is ubuntu
[19:15] <bluezone> sevenseeker, found it! lol
[19:15] <sevenseeker> bluezone, woah! great searching :)
[19:15] <bluezone> sevenseeker, hehe yeah
[19:15] <GeekSquid> Gartral: have you tried with another machine (what release?)
[19:16] <neneenen> can someone point me to the most up to date tutorial on how to setup/install the grub graphical boot menu?
[19:16] <XiaolinDraconis> GeekSquid, i am pretty positive i did follow the same steps. i know im off topic sry about that. this room is the most friendly ive been to. and if there were a lot of people talking i wouldnt have asked
[19:16] <nirazio> Is Unity a Desktop Environment?
[19:17] <XiaolinDraconis> i think its a compiz plugin
[19:17] <neneenen> its goint to be nirazio
[19:17] <XiaolinDraconis> not sure but from the little i read thats what i got
[19:17] <GeekSquid> nirazio: Unity is the "new" DE for UNR .. and will be the default desktop in 11.04
[19:17] <neneenen> nirazio, http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/
[19:18] <Maahes> nirazio: no its an interface. The "DE" is the interface + program suite + UI frame work + HIG
[19:18] <hash_> hi
[19:19] <XiaolinDraconis> hmmm somethings not right.... i dont know what i did... everytime i start firefox i have to unlock a keyring
[19:19] <hash_> #jakarta
[19:19] <GeekSquid> !id | hash_
[19:19] <neneenen> Maahes, DE = desktop environment
[19:19] <Guest67051> ubuntu rox!!!
[19:20] <neneenen> i hope there is going to be  away inside unity to switch back to gnome from unity
[19:20] <neneenen> im not fond of the unity DE
[19:20] <PerSeL> Hello can anyone help me with google earth, I downloaded one from google website and installed but when I start it nothing shows
[19:20] <jtaylor13> Can someone help me.I tried to add this server --   irc.gamers-irc.org  and i get error i spelled it wrong.It is spelled correctly.
[19:20] <XiaolinDraconis> yes gnome will still be there
[19:20] <nirazio> GeekSquid: what is UNR??
[19:20] <Maahes> neneenen: yes. Your total environment is defined by the suite and interaction metaphor of the whole system. That includes a UI Framework (of which Unity is a part of) and Human Interface guidelines (which is applied to a suite of common packages)
[19:20] <XiaolinDraconis> you will have to start the gnome-panel yourself
[19:21] <Maahes> neneenen: Unity runs on top of gnome, it is not a new DE
[19:21] <GeekSquid> nirazio: ubuntu netbook remix ... origionally developed for the netbooks starting with 9.04
[19:21] <thebigkick> anyone use utorrent?
[19:21] <Maahes> It's as simple as removing 1 package.
[19:21] <geeknik> thebigkick: I do.
[19:21] <thebigkick> with Wine?
[19:21] <neneenen> thebigkick, no, utorrent isnt FLOSS nor is it on linux
[19:21] <nirazio> So can conform it?UNITY is a DE or it's an interface??
[19:21] <thebigkick> FLOSS?
[19:22] <geeknik> thebigkick: never used it with Wine, sorry.
[19:22] <nirazio> So can anyone conform it?UNITY is a DE or it's an interface??
[19:22] <Maahes> nirazio: it's 1 program, it is not a DE.
[19:22] <GeekSquid> thebigkick: uh, why? ... linux native torrent clients are a dime a dozen
[19:22] <thebigkick> just cuz i'm used to it.  guess i'll stick with transmission
[19:22] <PerSeL> E: Unable to locate packageearth
[19:23] <neneenen> thebigkick, https://duckduckgo.com/Free_and_open_source_software
[19:23] <geeknik> thebigkick: floss = free/libre and open source software.
[19:23] <Maahes> lxde? gnome? CDE? kde? etc. they're all suites around common user interaction metaphors and programs, and underlying architecture to make them work. Calling Unity a DE would be like saying you installed a new DE on windows when you installed Launchy.
[19:23] <neneenen> thebigkick, there is a utorrent alt for linux, its called qtorrent
[19:23] <nirazio> Maahes: What is HIG?
[19:24] <Maahes> thebigkick: I recommend rtorrent with the web ui
[19:24] <Maahes> nirazio: human interface guidelines
[19:25] <thebigkick> thanks neen
[19:25] <Maahes> For more fun, wiki desktop metaphor or document metaphor and search from there.
[19:26] <JesusFreak316> Howvwould one set up always to detect a MIDI keyboard controller? I've been trying for a while but I just can't get anything to receive input.
[19:27] <Maahes> so yeah, unity is no more a new DE than using a new window manager is. You can in fact run gnome under kwin and vice versa, it does not suddenly make gnome into kde or kde into gnome
[19:28] <neneenen> Maahes, so why use unity instead of gnome?
[19:28] <philthy> has anyone seen those System76 laptops that ship with ubuntu?
[19:28] <neneenen> arnt we reinventing the wheel
[19:29] <samantha-> is there an ubuntu netinst image somewhere? or is my only choice the full cd image?
[19:29] <JesusFreak316> Crap, alsa not always.
[19:29] <Flannel> !minimal | samantha-
[19:29] <samantha-> ty Flannel
[19:29] <szaboi> cw=Z]PlO4Pm=,
[19:30] <GeekSquid> JesusFreak316: do you have libportmidi0 installed? there may be a few others, but that is the main one for Real-time midi
[19:30] <brian__> has anyone had problems forwarding x11 apps to 10.04 x86_64 that use java?
[19:31] <JesusFreak316> I do. I'm actually running Ubuntu studio.
[19:32] <soumya> hi guys
[19:32] <Maahes> neneenen: unity is on top of gnome
[19:32] <soumya> my HDMI is not working in ubuntu 10.19
[19:32] <soumya> 10.10
[19:32] <Guest61788> !ot soumya
[19:32] <Guest61788> ;(
[19:32] <soumya> Guest61788, ??
[19:32] <FreezingCold_> How do I run ZNC as nobody?
[19:32] <Maahes> the alternative to the unity package (which just a new interface, a replacement or the menu basically), is gnome-shell
[19:32] <Maahes> or as in my case: not using either
[19:33] <GeekSquid> JesusFreak316: better to ask your question in #ubuntustudio , as ubuntu studio is not officially supported here
[19:33] <Maahes> unity is just a launcher for people who haven't discovered gnome-do/kupfer/launchy/etc.
[19:34] <JesusFreak316> Ok. I thought that might be the case but I figured it was a rather generic question that applied to both.
[19:34] <neneenen> Maahes, right, but why not just use gnome shell
[19:35] <brian__> has anyone had problems forwarding x11 apps to 10.04 x86_64 that use java?  i get nothing but a blank app
[19:35] <Flannel> GeekSquid: Ubuntu studio is officially supported here.  But JesusFreak316, you might get a better response in #ubuntustudio anyway
[19:35] <trojan_spike> can any1 suggest a good calendar sort of thing?? Fill able with 'things to do' appoints etcetc,, ty in advance
[19:36] <Maahes> neneenen: if you want to you can, ubuntu disagrees with how gnome-shell works, and created unity
[19:36] <JesusFreak316> Thanks flannel. I'll ask there too.
[19:36] <Maahes> they both have different ideas of how user interaction should work
[19:36] <Maahes> I think they're both stupid
[19:36] <GeekSquid> Flannel:  when did that change? ... I thought it was considered a derivative version - there really needs to be an IRC helpers news page
[19:37] <Phong_> hey guys, why i install warcraft 3 with wine and when i do 'wine pathtowc3/war3.exe'  it tell me cd not found..but ih ave cd in it
[19:37] <Phong_> weird
[19:37] <Phong_> any help?
[19:38] <lwizardl> hi
[19:38] <GeekSquid> !winehq | Phong_
[19:38] <Maahes> Phong_: ##winehq or #winehq I forget
[19:39] <Maahes> oh duh
[19:39] <Maahes> I don't read well
[19:39] <lwizardl> whats the trick to have hibernation work on laptops ?
[19:39] <patrik> wtf
[19:39] <Maahes> lwizardl: have a laptop who's firmware plays nice with linux, usually.
[19:39] <GeekSquid> lwizardl: I seem to find that suspend works better, but not all laptops can
[19:39] <Flannel> GeekSquid: Ubuntu Studio is an officially recognized derivative... since... 9.04 I think.
[19:39] <Maahes> if not: loads of hacking which may be specific to your laptop
[19:40] <GeekSquid> Flannel: thanks
[19:40] <lwizardl> well its works when its not left in sleep for a long time. its an asus k52f
[19:42] <o_> Hello every body !
[19:42] <o_> Bonne année !
[19:42] <JeopardySholdenK> Hello
[19:42] <o_> Salut
[19:42] <o_> Bonne année !
[19:42] <o_> ^^
[19:44] <skooz> new install having some hiccups logging in ,restarting,
[19:44] <GeekSquid> !details | skooz
[19:47] <skooz> Ubuntu 10.10 try to log in cant select other manually enter user name and pw lets me in most of the time. click restart or shutdown will not finish
[19:49] <nirazio> Is it possible to have the actual MySql database installed on Windows and access it from Ubuntu 10.10 on the local network?
[19:50] <GeekSquid> nirazio: yes, you will need to allow access to the mysql server from the ubuntu machine using windows firewall
[19:53] <soumya> guys i resolved the HDMI issue.. but i have to choose the audio output manually from the sound option..
[19:53] <soumya> do i have to do it each time i connect my laptop to my TV
[19:55] <plc90210> can someone please help me troubleshoot firefox? I have a wireless connection, but firefox isn't working
[19:56] <centHOGG> plc90210: has it worked before?
[19:56] <plc90210> it worked when i had a wired connection
[19:56] <centHOGG> ok
[19:56] <GeekSquid> Guest92726: Warning you are running your IRC client as Root... DANGER DANGER Will Robinson, running internet application as root is a major security vulnerability
[19:57] <centHOGG> plc90210: pleez describe further :)
[19:57] <KM0201> GeekSquid: it's amazing people still need to be told that.
[19:57] <trojanking_> how do i install mass mailing software
[19:58] <GeekSquid> KM0201: tee hee
[19:58] <plc90210> well, when i open it, it shows the home ubuntu page like it should, but when i type in another website address, it says 'server can not be found'
[19:58] <skooz> 10.10 install  have trouble logging in . one time just type in my pw. next time have to select another and type in user name and pw then maybe next it will work the other way
[19:58] <KM0201> plc90210: the "homepage".. is likely locally hosted.. is the URL something like file://
[19:58] <centHOGG> plc90210: ok... pm me
[19:58] <Maahes> yeah, I think I hosed my system again
[19:58] <soumya> any help guys
[19:58] <Maahes> its so very easy to hose USB installs.
[19:58] <plc90210> KM0201: the url is 'about:home'
[19:59] <KM0201> Maahes: yeah..
[19:59] <KM0201> plc90210: there you go.. it's locally hosted... your connection is not working.. are you still working on the wireless
[19:59] <Maahes> KM0201: I found 3 new packages I have to pin
[19:59] <Gimbli> plc90210: this url will open a page already located on your harddrive
[19:59] <Maahes> -_-
[19:59] <Maahes> there should be a guide of "packages that will hose a usb system"
[19:59] <Gimbli> plc90210: did you try to ping any outside server or can you reach for example your wireless router?
[20:00] <plc90210> KM0201: yeah i'm still working on the wireless, it was working fine when i had the wired connection
[20:00] <plc90210> Gimbli: i don't know my router's ip
[20:00] <KM0201> plc90210: i thought you said your wired connection didn't work?
[20:00] <plc90210> it does now
[20:00] <KM0201> plc90210: ok...
[20:00] <plc90210> lol yeah strange, i know...
[20:00] <KM0201> plc90210: can you ping another PC on your network.
[20:01] <sl33k_> i forgot the command to block a domain name, something like gksudo gedit .. ? what is it?
[20:01] <KM0201> plc90210: in other words.. whats the IP of the pc you're on now... try to ping it from your laptop
[20:01] <GeekSquid> plc90210: usually <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:01] <KM0201> that'll work to.
[20:02] <plc90210> i can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:02] <KM0201> plc90210: then it's *very* likely you're not hooked up to the router.
[20:02] <Gimbli> plc90210: try <ifconfig> to find out whether you got an ip in your wireless network
[20:04] <plc90210> i tried ifconfig and it gave me a few lines each for eth0, eth1, and lo
[20:05] <KM0201> plc90210: you don't see wlan0 ?
[20:05] <plc90210> no
[20:05] <Gimbli> plc90210: has there been an "inet address" displayed on the devices eth0 or eth1?
[20:05] <KM0201> plc90210: then your wireless definitely isn't working.... do you see yur IP in any of those paragraphs?
[20:05] <GeekSquid> KM0201: occasionally a wireless card will show up as an eth1
[20:05] <KM0201> GeekSquid: really?.. never saw that one
[20:06] <GeekSquid> KM0201: kinda surprised me too, but it does happen with some models
[20:07] <GeekSquid> KM0201: plc90210: I'd like to see a pastebin of what you've got in ifconfig, but if you have no net on the machine that would be difficult
[20:07] <intick> hey could you help me i would like to convert WAV to MP3
[20:07] <KM0201> intick: i believe audacity should do that for you no prob
[20:07] <GeekSquid> intick: install sound converter
[20:07] <KM0201> GeekSquid: yeah.. forgot about that
[20:08] <plc90210> on eth0, there's a inet6 address, and on eth1, there's a inet address and an inet6 address
[20:08] <intick> ah yes in addition i use it to modify my mp3 songs ^^
[20:08] <KM0201> ohhhh sound converter, i always forget that
[20:08] <intick> thx KM0201
[20:08] <nit-wit> GeekSquid, +1 sound converter
[20:08] <GimbliAFK> plc90210: which addresses are on eth1
[20:08] <acovrig> how do I get aspx? I have looked everywhere and can't find it and its driving me nuts
[20:08] <GeekSquid> plc90210: what are those addresses
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  whats aspx supposed to be? dosent sound familer.
[20:09] <KM0201> !info audacity
[20:09] <szaboi> well if plc90210 can write here.. i dont think he has a layer 3 or lower problem :(
[20:09] <GeekSquid> acovrig: aspx is ASP Dot Net 2.0 ... usually tied to a C# file.... these are windows hosted applications
[20:09] <KM0201> szaboi: hes' on a different machine
[20:09] <szaboi> ok sry :)
[20:09] <plc90210> szaboi: this is my other laptop
[20:09] <szaboi> happy new year :D
[20:10] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: it is used to install apache modules, I need to stream video, I have tried QuickTimeStreaming Server with no luck (I can't hint the mp4 files); so I am trying to get mod_flvx in apache2
[20:10] <KM0201> plc90210: did you get that info GeekSquid asked for?
[20:10] <acovrig> Dr_Willis,GeekSquid : oops, its apxs
[20:11] <plc90210> Km0201: yeah but they're kind of long, should i post them on here?
[20:11] <KM0201> plc90210: just need the numbers.. if you have them.
[20:11] <KM0201> plc90210: do any of them show a number ike 192.168.x.x ?
[20:11] <plc90210> yes
[20:11] <KM0201> plc90210: which one?
[20:11] <plc90210> the inet addr under eth1
[20:12] <KM0201> hmm
[20:12] <intick> GeekSquid: i've installed it but it does convert to OGG and wav but not to MP3 : (
[20:12] <GeekSquid> acovrig: you might want to ask your question in #apache
[20:13] <GeekSquid> intick: you need to have the codecs installed ... probably gstreamer
[20:13] <centHOGG> flac
[20:13] <plc90210> i did a google search and found something about wireless cards... could that be relevant to my problem?
[20:13] <KM0201> plc90210: i guess it's possible.. link?
[20:13] <KM0201> plc90210: and just to be clear, is your device still seeing networks, or is it now not working?
[20:14] <intick> GeekSquid: yess there was a link to help with mp3 installationg i got it working now thx a lot dude : )
[20:14] <plc90210> KM0201: it's still seeing networks, it's actually connected to the same network that this network is connected to; link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592619
[20:15] <plc90210> that this laptop is connected to*
[20:15] <plc90210> before it wasn't even connecting
[20:16] <KM0201> plc90210: and again(cuz i left last night after you got the STA driver installed and were seeing networks)... did you get it to successfully connect last night, and were able to surf the internet?
[20:16] <skooz> new install 10.10 desktop flashes on screen then disappears  back into log in screen
[20:18] <plc90210> no, it wasn't connecting, it was asking for the security key, but wasn't able to connect, so then i reset the router, and then it connected without any problem, and the wired connection also started working. when it has the wired connection, i can surf the internet, but when it has the wireless connection, i can't
[20:18] <acovrig> has anyone used mp4creator?
[20:18] <centHOGG> !mp4creator
[20:18] <XiaolinDraconis> wtf just happened
[20:19] <KM0201> plc90210: hmm, that makes me think there migh have been some mac filtering going on, if you could connect after resetting the router, but thats irrelevant
[20:19] <KM0201> plc90210: what is the security protocol of your network?
[20:19] <KM0201> WEP, WPA, etc..?
[20:19] <plc90210> WPA
[20:20] <KM0201> plc90210: ok.. what *I* would do.. is go into the router, set it to "no security".... and see if you can get on your wireless network.
[20:20] <Adman65> Anyone have an xonar stx? I can see stuff happening on the pulse audio mixer, but get no sound out of the card
[20:20] <KM0201> plc90210: if you can, change it to wep, and put a pssword on it, see if you can get on to it.
[20:20] <KM0201> and keep moving up, until you can't connect to it.
[20:20] <KM0201> im wondering if that device is s old, it doesn't support WPA
[20:20] <plc90210> how do i "go into the router"?
[20:20] <crimsun> Adman65: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[20:21] <Adman65> interesting
[20:21] <KM0201> plc90210: *usually*... by going to <IP_ADDRESS> on your web browser
[20:21] <KM0201> plc90210: if you want to PM me.. go ahead, cuz we're gonna have to discuss logging into your router, etc..
[20:21] <GimbliAFK> KM0201: as he already has an address on eth1 i think that it is already connected to the router and that it is not necessary to re-configure any security settings
[20:22] <KM0201> GimbliAFK: i dunno.. i'm not entirely convinced eth1 is his wireless.
[20:22] <KM0201> GimbliAFK: and even then.... if he'sconnected to the router, he can't get "out" of the router.
[20:23] <GimbliAFK> plc90210: on your laptop, try <ping <IP_ADDRESS>> if you get an answer you are connected to the internet and only the dns lookup fails
[20:24] <KM0201> GimbliAFK: if i recall correctly, earlier he said he couldn't ping anything and was unable to ping other machines on the network
[20:25] <GimbliAFK> KM0201: ah ok, sorry, i missed that
[20:30] <thebigkick> anyone know any web dev irc channels?
[20:31] <Adman65> crimsun: still no luck :/
[20:33] <director87_> happy new year
[20:34] <director87_> can some one direct me to a channel or website that could help me retrieve files that i overwrote with a linux installation :-/ ?
[20:34] <director87_> probably not, i know -.-
[20:37] <desaiu> firefox is taking too long to load
[20:37] <desaiu> i want to remove everything and start from scratch
[20:37] <desaiu> maybe create a bakcup of the bookmarks, but then remove everything on the system and start from scratch
[20:37] <ayush_> will dell pre-install ubuntu on any laptop I buy or is it only an option on some laptops?
[20:38] <desaiu> i've tried apt-get purge firefox, but that doesn't seem to help, i'm going to try removing everything in  ~/.mozilla
[20:38] <GeekSquid> desaiu: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox .... but backup your bookmarks first
[20:39] <desaiu> GeekSquid: i didn't backup my bookmarks because i couldn't launch the app
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> desaiu:  the pacvkage manger does NOT NOT NOT touch files in the users home dir
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> desaiu:  if you want to delete .mozilla then delete it..
[20:39] <desaiu> i removed ~/.mozilla and it launched like it should have been this entire time
[20:39] <GeekSquid> desaiu: the bookmarks are in ~/.mozilla
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> desaiu:  or just rename the dir
[20:40] <desaiu> i'm not too worried, i will fret later on when i remember there was something that i saw but couldn't remember where :)
[20:40] <KM0201> desaiu: just think, if you were using a certain OS from Redmond, you could have uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox...
[20:40] <desaiu> KM0201: meh
[20:41]  * desaiu is thankful for delicious and similar apps :)
[20:41] <KM0201> lol
[20:41] <intick> GeekSquid: hi again, another question about audio, how can i delete tags ? (of some 100 files at the same time)
[20:42] <demir> alguém trabalha com python aqui ?
[20:42] <GeekSquid> intick: search for ID3 in synaptic ... there are a number of tag editors, some more powerful/destructive than others
[20:42] <GeekSquid> !es | demir
[20:45] <TheDeadCPU> So.. How can I change the User Enviroment variables?
[20:45] <Firartix> hey here.... i can't get to open .mp3 files. i tried installing the "mp3play" package, but it just doesn't exist :P
[20:45] <TheDeadCPU> I know how to change them for SU, but not my user
[20:46] <Firartix> what can i install for those to work?
[20:46] <KM0201> Firartix: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:46] <KM0201> i believe that installs mp3 support, or maybe its gstreamer
[20:47] <Firartix> thanks, trying
[20:47] <TheDeadCPU> So.. How can I change the User Enviroment variables?
[20:47] <Firartix> (tried gstreamer, but it won't find it)
[20:48] <GeekSquid> Firartix: install the fluendo plugin from the partner repo
[20:49] <KM0201> Firartix: one of them should.. try double clicking an mp3, and ask it to search for the plugin
[20:49] <KM0201> i like how Ubuntu offers to install all that multimedia stuff during install now...
[20:49] <KM0201> i wish debian did that
[20:50] <Gartral> I can't sync with ubuntu-one, i've tried reinstalling but that didnt help at all
[20:50] <TheDeadCPU> Nobody knows?
[20:50] <Firartix> KM0201: i did it but, it won't find the plugin for some reason
[20:50] <KM0201> Firartix: so do what GeekSquid said above
[20:51] <Firartix> too late KM0201, i tried installing that ubuntu-restricted-extras package set and it does work
[20:51] <TheDeadCPU> So.. How can I change the User Enviroment variables?
[20:51] <KM0201> Firartix: i thought ti did..
[20:52] <OllieIcon> Hey, i need some help, i just installed: ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso I have an AMD CPU is that why the boot did not work?
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[20:52] <OllieIcon> A test
[20:52] <desaiu> after removing ~/.mozilla, i then apt-get remove --purge firefox && apt-get update && apt-get install firefox
[20:52] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, add ADB to it so I don't have to be SU to use it
[20:53] <desaiu> but firefox crashes when i attempt to install firebug :(
[20:53] <compdoc> OllieIcon, it should run, but you might be better off with the AMD64 version
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> OllieIcon: do you get any specific error messages?
[20:53] <OllieIcon> No
[20:53] <OllieIcon> I just get a black screen
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: elaborate
[20:53] <OllieIcon> But before the black screen i see a green screen
[20:53] <OllieIcon> With a little keyboard and man
[20:54] <compdoc> there are some motherboards that dynamically allocate memory for the vid card. if you have that option, you should set it for Fixed
[20:54] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, ADB = Android Debus Bridge, If I'm not SU I can not use the ADB command because it's not in my enviromental variables. I CAN CD to the filder with ADB but then my scripts wont work.
[20:54] <TheDeadCPU> folder*
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> OllieIcon: try pressing shift at the very beginning of the boot process, then edit the kernel parameters to remove "quiet splash"
[20:54] <OllieIcon> okay thanks
[20:54] <OllieIcon> Ill give that a go
[20:54] <OllieIcon> reapeatedly pressing shift?
[20:55] <OllieIcon> or hold it down?
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: not "SU" ? not root, you mean?
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> OllieIcon: just hold it down
[20:55] <GeekSquid> TheDeadCPU: you might ask your question in #android or #android-dev ... I would imagine there are people there who have done exactly the same thing
[20:55] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, yes.
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> !enter | OllieIcon
[20:55] <TheDeadCPU> GeekSquid, all people there are complete noobs. (At least most of them)
[20:55] <intick> GeekSquid: thx again ;)
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: gaining root privileges is done using sudo
[20:56] <OllieIcon> okay thanks mate
[20:56] <TheDeadCPU> GeekSquid, Or, #Android-dev might be able to help..
[20:56] <GeekSquid> TheDeadCPU: glad you caught that
[20:56] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, yes.... But adb is in the SU enviromental variables, NOT mine
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: why do you keep using the term "SU"? there is  no such a thing as a SU user, there's either root or a less privileged user
[20:59] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: what's the exact command you're using?
[20:59] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, SU is easier to write then root.
[20:59] <Adman65> anyone give me a hand with my sound card? I've got a xonar stx. I can see it on the output in the pulse audiomixer, but no sound
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: it's wrong. period.
[21:00] <crimsun> Adman65: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[21:00] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, ok ok sorry -.-
[21:01] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, Let me try again. How can I edit my USER enviromental valuables?
[21:02] <kholzer> Hi, I ran the distribution upgrade script (from the default Kubuntu package manager, 10.4 -> 10.10) and it crashed.  My system is still on; what can I do to fix this?  I only have SSH access now, this computer is at my parents house about an hour's drive away...
[21:02] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU:  for a specific command you just prefix the variable identifier and it's value to the command itself, example: SOMETHING=VALUE ls
[21:03] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: this will run the 'ls' command with the value for the environment variable SOMETHING equal to VALUE
[21:03] <rpsyj> welcome, and happy new year y'all
[21:04] <theelitenoob> hi
[21:04] <bucky> TheDeadCPU, type env  if the executable isn't in there then..
[21:04] <rpsyj> how does wacom pen&touch work with ubuntu 10.10?
[21:04] <theelitenoob> hmm
[21:04] <theelitenoob> not sure
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: to permanently  set  the value, edit ~/.profile
[21:05] <bucky> TheDeadCPU, add something like PATH=$HOME/or/other/path/to/adb:$PATH  to ~/.profile and do a . .profile or log out and back in again
[21:05] <TheDeadCPU> bucky, Ty!
[21:05] <rpsyj> can i use the right strafe of tablet to scroll the websites etc?
[21:06] <TheDeadCPU> I just did PATH=/everything/that/was/here:/New/folder/thing
[21:07] <avis> overturners are not sealed
[21:08] <TheDeadCPU> Though that didn't seem to stick..
[21:08] <norbert_> hey all
[21:08] <edbian> norbert_: hello
[21:09] <norbert_> question, maybe someone knows: what is a good free Poker game that works under Ubuntu?
[21:09] <norbert_> there is Governor of Poker, but it's limited and needs payment...
[21:09] <bucky> TheDeadCPU, you're going to have to get the path right and make sure you include the rest of your env with $PATH at the end and then source the .profile file with . .profile or log out and back in again
[21:09] <kholzer> norbert_: online?
[21:09] <kholzer> norbert_: or what?
[21:10] <norbert_> well, online is fine, or download
[21:10] <norbert_> either one :)
[21:10] <kholzer> http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/playing-poker-on-ubuntu/
[21:10] <rpsyj> norbert_: my favourite is called "aptitude" :/
[21:10] <kholzer> rpsyj: poker game?  and package manager?
[21:10] <rpsyj> "synaptic" is also cool, better graphics but a little bit slower
[21:10] <rpsyj> yeah
[21:10] <TheDeadCPU> bucky, I managed. I just added "export PATH=$PATH:/folder"  to my .bashrc
[21:11] <grelle> anyone here familiar with LVM? I have a setup in virtualbox to try LVM out. I've created a logical volume over 3 drives. I removed one of the drives and am now trying to recover the volume with the two remaining drives. I can't get it to work.
[21:11] <grelle> I'm hoping that, if I run this in a real system, I would be able to restore some of the files in case of a drive failure.
[21:11] <rpsyj> norbert_ now srsly - run "Synaptic package manager" and search "poker", or "online poker"
[21:11] <rpsyj> easier, eh?
[21:11] <kholzer> norbert_: do you want to play against people or computers?  for money?  or what?
[21:11] <kholzer> rpsyj: he asked for the best; maybe someone in here knows it
[21:12] <edbian> !best
[21:12] <rpsyj> ok, sorry
[21:12] <Melonium> hi
[21:12] <FalseLobster> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to make a persistent live usb.  Is there anyway around the FAT32 requirement?  I plan on using an ext partition for my persistence, and I don't want windows stuck with FAT32 for the rest of the space on the usb.
[21:13] <edbian> FalseLobster: Install Ubuntu on there.  Then use gparted to format the remainder of the drive however you want
[21:13] <kholzer> Okay; perhaps I avoid superlatives.  He asked for a 'good' one.
[21:13] <kholzer> read 'I' as 'I should'
[21:14] <norbert_> yes, I tried to avoid "best" :)
[21:14] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, generally it is a ext2
[21:14] <kholzer> ugh...being pedantic is such a pain in the ass
[21:14] <skooz> bue11 hello
[21:15] <FalseLobster> Alright, so maybe I'm confused, but I thought there was more to it than simply installing Ubuntu to an ext partition on a usb drive
[21:16] <kholzer> norbert_: I'll try to find you a good summary of the available options...give me a second.  Do you want to play for money or for fun?
[21:16] <FalseLobster> I've found several windows programs that will create one, but they all seem to insist on a FAT32 partition
[21:16] <norbert_> kholzer: for fun
[21:16] <kholzer> ok
[21:16] <kholzer> norbert_: you are using ubuntu, not kubuntu (i.e. gnome, not kde), correct?
[21:17] <Firartix> "norbert" ?
[21:17] <norbert_> well, debian stable :)
[21:17] <norbert_> but I can compile stuff
[21:17] <FalseLobster> Am I wrong in this assessment? If I just installed it to the USB as if it were a regular drive, would it be bootable ?
[21:18] <itaylor57> i don't think so
[21:19] <FalseLobster> excuse me?
[21:19] <skooz> have a new install of ubuntu 10.10 have login issue. mostly have to select other to log in then it might take a few times
[21:19] <norbert_> pokerth in the repositories appears to be stuck at 80% when I connect to the internet...
[21:21] <plrca2> I've got a question about network booting
[21:21] <kholzer> norbert_: what about AisleRiot?  gui or command line?
[21:21] <form_> hi. how can i change the runlevel of a fresh ubuntu 10.10 installation, so that i can login in textmode?
[21:21] <ilovefairuz> FalseLobster: i think it would, yes
[21:21] <norbert_> gui is preferable
[21:22] <cs02rm0> if i have a machine running as a dns server and i want it to serve its own hostname, what do i do to stop it serving <IP_ADDRESS> as its own IP?
[21:22] <itaylor57> form_: runlevel 1
[21:22] <bs123> plrca2 you need to ask....or look at topic and read guidelines
[21:22] <form_> itaylor57: yeah. where? startscripts seems to be hiding from the admin
[21:23] <L> lhb
[21:23] <plrca2> I was waiting for someone to offer help. I've tried setting root-path in the dhcp server, but ${ROOTPATH} seems to be empty on the client. It give the error "nfsmount: need a path"
[21:24] <bs123> best just to ask :)
[21:24] <ilovefairuz> cs02rm0: /etc/hosts?
[21:24] <Dwade09> anyone wanna take a crack at this wine problem i am having ? http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=62932&p=362162#p362162
[21:24] <plrca2> I'll remember that bs123 :)
[21:24] <Arakul> С новым годом!
[21:24] <ilovefairuz> !ru | Arakul
[21:25] <cs02rm0> ilovefairuz: i've got a line for <IP_ADDRESS> followed by another line for the eth0 interface. it's serving <IP_ADDRESS> to other machines then.
[21:25] <ilovefairuz> cs02rm0: pastebin
[21:26] <itaylor57> form_: well if I was on a solaris system I could tell you,
[21:26] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, you can full install to a thumb but it should be at least 8 gigs and have the grub bootloader pointed at its mbr use the custom install to set grub
[21:26] <defsdoor> can anyone help with this error when trying to update - E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on upstart
[21:27] <nit-wit> defsdoor, is that all the error message
[21:27] <form_> defsdoor: http://www.google.de/search?client=opera&rls=de&q=Internal+Error,+Could+not+perform+immediate+configuration+(2)+on+upstart&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
[21:27] <cs02rm0> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/6RPRRFnM
[21:27] <defsdoor> nit-wit, yes
[21:27] <kholzer> norbert_: hmm...doesn't look like there are many good options to play against the CPU...a quick search on http://packages.ubuntu.com doesn't turn up much that looks promising.  If you want to play for money, there are java based sites out there; not sure about free games against other players
[21:28] <kholzer> norbert_: you may have luck with WINE and commercial software
[21:28] <norbert_> yep
[21:28] <norbert_> I'm trying pokerth
[21:28] <kholzer> ok
[21:28] <norbert_> seems okay
[21:28] <FalseLobster> nit-wit: I know what grub and mbr are, but you kinda lost me with the second half of that sentence.  The flash drive is 32 GB :)
[21:28] <kholzer> cool, thats what I like to hear :)
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> cs02rm0: <IP_ADDRESS>   america  localhost
[21:28] <kholzer> have a good new year then :)
[21:29] <norbert_> lol
[21:29] <norbert_> same :)
[21:30] <kholzer> FalseLobster: What are you trying to do?
[21:30] <cs02rm0> ilovefairuz: thanks, that works.
[21:30] <itaylor57> it seems ubuntu is "almost nearly but not quite harldly" an upstart system
[21:30] <kholzer> FalseLobster: It should be straightforward to make a bootable USB stick.
[21:30] <kholzer> itaylor57: Depends on how you slice it.
[21:30] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, with lucid and maverick the install partitioning area have a dropdown for where thr grub bootloader is going. If your doing a staright install to any internal or external you want to get to that dropdown and make sure the grub bootloader is pointed to be installed in the correct mbr
[21:31] <itaylor57> kholzer: im just trying to understand the boot sequence
[21:31] <kholzer> itaylor57: Windows comes pre-installed on computers.  Most issues there are worked around by people....
[21:31] <kholzer> itaylor57: okay okay :)
[21:31] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, you have to choose a custom install to see this dropdown in maverick Lucid as well I belive the installer has been changing
[21:32] <kholzer> itaylor57: what do you mean by an upstart system?
[21:32] <skooz> I am having  login and shutdown restart problems. ubuntu 10.10. login sometimes sometimes takes a couple tries. go to restart looks like it will half way restart then ill have to shut off manually
[21:32] <kholzer> itaylor57: basically, grub knows where the kernel is; moves the kernel into memory, changes the instruction pointer to where the kernel is, and then everything kicks off.
[21:33] <Outlier> OK, this has to be a no-brainer, but if I want to set a java program running so I can log out and let it complete in my absence, how do I do this?
[21:33] <itaylor57> kholzer: I am referring to upstart a component of the boot load sequence
[21:33] <kholzer> itaylor57: is that an init replacement?
[21:33] <gjm> happy new year guys!
[21:33] <kholzer> itaylor57: I'm a unix guy, not a debian/ubuntu guy...
[21:33] <FalseLobster> kholzer: SHOULD be.  I've spent hours on this project, gave up, and am returning to it now because I have more free time.
[21:34] <FalseLobster> nit-wit: So what you're saying is that grub should be going to the USB's mbr ?
[21:34] <form_> ok switching to debian again. this kinda suckx
[21:34] <itaylor57> kholzer: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:34] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, yes if it is a full install
[21:35] <kholzer> FalseLobster: what OS are you trying to install it from?
[21:35] <arnaud> trustonme
[21:36] <FalseLobster> kholzer: Currently? Windows.  Although I'm sure I could just as easily make a live CD and do it from Ubuntu if I needed to.
[21:36] <kholzer> itaylor57: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/misc/upstart.pdf
[21:37] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Give me a second
[21:39] <kholzer> sheesh, no thanks
[21:39] <Outlier> Is there any easy way to start a program from the command line that will keep it running after I log out?
[21:40] <haux> Join #android
[21:40] <defsdoor> Outlier, nohup or screen
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> Outlier: is it a graphical app?
[21:40] <kholzer> haux: No!
[21:40] <haux> :-)
[21:40] <haux> sorry
[21:40] <kholzer> :)
[21:40]  * kholzer was kidding
[21:40] <Outlier> nope - just some text output for status that I'd happily dump in /dev/nul
[21:40] <haux> I don't know how to use this stuff
[21:40] <kholzer> haux /join #android :)
[21:40] <defsdoor> Outlier, nohup yourcommand &
[21:40] <FalseLobster> kholzer: Here's a forum post describing exactly what I'm trying to do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656996
[21:40] <shcherbak> Outlier: screen, tmux. but you need to have user.
[21:41] <defsdoor> Outlier, if you have already started it background it and then disown it
[21:41] <haux> doesn't work ! "/join #android"
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> Outlier: you could login to a virtual terminal and do your thing, ctrl + alt + f2  ... or f7 to get back
[21:41] <IdleOne> !register | haux
[21:41] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Why NTFS instead of FAT?  Is there a size limitation or something on FAT32?  (I seem to remember something along these lines...)
[21:42] <IdleOne> haux: you need to register and identify, see info from ubottu
[21:42] <kholzer> FalseLobster: NTFS is superior (journaled, etc), but FAT is omnipresent...
[21:43] <Outlier> hmmm lots of options.  Thanks.  Sounds like nohup is the easiest thing, maybe.
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> kholzer: and yes there are file size limitations on FAT
[21:43] <haux> to IdleOne  ubottu how  can I get info from there ? is it an url ?
[21:43] <FalseLobster> kholzer: FAT32 has a max file size of 4GB.  I actually had it working already using one of those utilities and FAT32, but then I had a DVD iso I was trying to get from  someone else and realized I couldn't copy the file.
[21:43] <aLemmer> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 with Gnome. Every time I hide my panel and unhide it, the window list disappears.
[21:43] <Outlier> ilovefairuz - don't think the virtual terminal thing would work, since I'm doing this over ssh on a headless server.
[21:43] <IdleOne> haux: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration and follow the instructions
[21:43] <itaylor57> Outlier: nohup works great, the man page helps is you have output
[21:43] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Lameness.  There are filesplitters/joiners you can use to deal with that...
[21:44] <haux> thx IdleOne
[21:44] <kholzer> FalseLobster: There shoudl be no problem getting what you want though.
[21:44] <Dwade09>  hey guys im running linuxmint 10 gnome and i have intel mobile 4 series chipset integrated graphics card where do i get the driver for it? here is my glxinfo if it helps http://pastebin.com/s22iuG0L
[21:44] <Outlier> Thanks, itaylor57.  I wasted far too much time trying to get batch to do it for me.
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> !mint | Dwade09
[21:44] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, so after looking at your thread if you want a MS platform to read the ntfs partition it will have to be the first partition. Then put the ISO load or full install after it
[21:45] <Dwade09> ilovefairuz,  i know this and uh linuxmint 10 gnome is based of ubuntu 10.10 meerkat
[21:45] <kholzer> FalseLobster: *should.  You can partition it however you want.  NTFS will work as a secondary partition.  Note, however, that it won't connect to OS X boxes out of the box (need to install NTFS 3G's FUSE Mac Driver first).
[21:45] <kholzer> FalseLobster: You can definitely get a program that requires no installation that will split files to deal with FAT's limitations.
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> Dwade09: uses different repositories and so we can't provide support for it here
[21:46] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Also, while NTFS-3G's NTFS support is pretty good, it isn't perfect.
[21:46] <KM0201> Dwade09: still different, try #linuxmint
[21:46] <Christiannn> hi my ubuntu is showing me i have the hard disk full when it isnt /dev/md1 462G 462G 0 100% / what can i do ?
[21:46] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Want me to find you a file splitter/joiner?
[21:46] <Seveas> Dwade09, maybe ask in #debian instead then, it's all based on that...
[21:46] <KM0201> Seveas: lol, for the win
[21:46] <Seveas> Christiannn, remove some files.
[21:46] <FalseLobster> kholzer: I don't give a crap about mac; and I don't really want that inconvenience, although I realize that is an option.  I can find one myself, I'm trying to set up my live usb now, not get the dvd iso
[21:47] <defsdoor> Christiannn, has it been full and you deleted some files ?
[21:47] <Outlier> itaylor57 - thanks again, it's working great.
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> !language | FalseLobster
[21:47] <Christiannn> ye also i deleted one folder with 100gb
[21:47] <Christiannn> and it still showing me full hd
[21:47] <defsdoor> Christiannn, the files are still open
[21:47] <Christiannn> no
[21:47] <enbloc> how do I do a find that returns ONLY directories which are leaf nodes? I see how to prune leaf nodes,
[21:47] <Seveas> Christiannn, deleted or moved to trash?
[21:47] <Christiannn> delted
[21:47] <Christiannn> rm -rf
[21:47] <Dwade09> thanks Seveas
[21:47] <itaylor57> Outlier: np
[21:47] <FalseLobster> ilovefairuz: Sorry, I figured the c word was relatively safe
[21:48] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Understood.  (I'm actually typing this from a Mac; they're pretty nice IMO.)  Just set the second partition to be NTFS; life will be good.
[21:48] <Seveas> Christiannn, and you're sure it was on that partition?
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> Christiannn:  du --max-depth=1
[21:48] <defsdoor> Christiannn, the actual file won't be deleted until any open references to it are closed so kill of anything that used the file(s) you deleted
[21:48] <Outlier> exit
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> Christiannn: add this too: -h
[21:48] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Or use one of the tools and format it as FAT32, and in windows, 'upgrade' it to NTFS
[21:48] <Christiannn> in what folder?
[21:49] <FalseLobster> Hmm... Alright.  Well thanks to both of you, kholzer & nit-wit.  I think I can figure this out
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> !who | Christiannn
[21:49] <haux> TYhe server has said that I am already registred ! and I can't /join #android
[21:49] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Most people writing these tools are more in the hacker category; my hacker buddy likes FAT32 better than NTFS for his own data (although he really doesn't like either)
[21:49] <Christiannn> sorry lol
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> haux: /join #freenode, ask for help there
[21:49] <kholzer> FalseLobster: No problem :)
[21:49] <defsdoor> Christiannn, reboot will sort any open file issues
[21:49] <Christiannn> ilovefairuz in what folder
[21:50] <Christiannn> i alredy reboot the system 3 time
[21:50] <kholzer> FalseLobster: You can email me if you get stuck, my contact info is at my webpage: <http://hlzr.net>
[21:50] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, have a happy new year.:)
[21:50] <Seveas> Christiannn, use baobab to find out what still takes up all the space
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> Christiannn: you can do your home, or folders you suspect there are big files; or your can try it straight on /
[21:50] <defsdoor> Christiannn, does df as root show different ? - normal user has (by default) 5% hiddent from it
[21:50] <Christiannn> is a server.. i only have acces on a terminal on ssh Seveas
[21:51] <Seveas> Christiannn, then du -shc /*
[21:51] <Seveas> and dive deeper into each big folder
[21:51] <haux> is there some one using chat based program? which one ?
[21:51] <Christiannn> 201G /usr
[21:51] <Christiannn> 255G /var
[21:51] <Christiannn> lol
[21:51] <kholzer> haux: you mean IRC + IM?
[21:51] <country0129> Using Ubuntu 10.10.  Installed Samba4.  Want to network with Win7OPro.   I could see and manipulate files on the Ubuntu machine.  The Ubuntu machine sees the Win7 machine, but I can't log in.  Keeps giving me the login screens even if I put in the correct credentials.  Any ideas?
[21:52] <Christiannn> [Seveas] /var and /usr have all hd full lol
[21:52] <Christiannn> sorry for colors :S
[21:52] <Christiannn> turned off x)
[21:52] <FalseLobster> nit-wit: you too :)
[21:52] <Seveas> Christiannn, then use du on the subfolders to see where the space is taken. 201G for /usr seems like a lot
[21:52] <FalseLobster> kholzer: Thanks, hopefully won't be necessary
[21:52] <kholzer> haux: I decided against those; they tend not to work for me.  X-Chat is pretty good for IRC
[21:53] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Good luck then.  Have a good new year; cheers!
[21:53] <JPeterson> I'm removing unused packages, how do I remove "unattended-upgrades"?
[21:53] <Christiannn> Seveas 200G /usr/lib
[21:54] <JPeterson> i mean the "unattended-upgrades"service
[21:54] <Seveas> Christiannn, you're getting closer, keep digging :)
[21:54] <haux> I am tolking about IRC. I know X-chat, but it's graphical one, I am want texte one to use on my black screen
[21:54] <KM0201> GeekSquid: it had to be a setting in plc90210's router... he couldn't remember the router password, so we reset it, and wen tthrough the settings one by one, set it u w/ WPA2, and it works fien now... but his wireless is still eth1, instead of wlan0... go figure
[21:54] <kholzer> Christiannn: do a du -kx | sort -n
[21:55] <kholzer> Christiannn: (from /)
[21:55] <itaylor57> haux: irssi
[21:55] <Christiannn> okey okey i will search, wait me Seveas bcuz i dunno what files are for the system, so if i delete something i will destroy my system
[21:55] <Christiannn> ok kholzer just a second
[21:55] <Seveas> Christiannn, just keep digging, 200GB in /usr/lib is a lot
[21:55] <kholzer> Christiannn: Then biggest will be at the bottom
[21:55] <kholzer> Seveas: Agreed
[21:56] <JPeterson> my service list looks like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/disabling-unnecessary-startup-services-850426/
[21:56] <JPeterson> how do I remove bluetooth and unattended-upgrades? what's the package names for those services?
[21:56] <haux> irss ! thx I heared about this stuff
[21:56] <country0129> I need a networking guru with help Ubuntu/Win7 home networking.
[21:56] <kholzer> JPeterson: why are you doing this?  Is your computer slow?
[21:56] <Seveas> JPeterson, anything with bluez in the name is for bluetooth
[21:56] <Christiannn> 200G //usr/lib/samba/vfs/system.so
[21:56] <Christiannn> this file !
[21:56] <Christiannn> Seveas 200G //usr/lib/samba/vfs/system.so
[21:56] <Christiannn> lol
[21:57] <JPeterson> i did apt-get remove --purge bluetooth* but it's still there
[21:57] <kholzer> country0129: try asking in #samba; my samba chops aren't hot enough for me to quote a fix to you
[21:57] <itaylor57> haux: http://www.irssi.org/
[21:57] <JPeterson> kholzer: no I'm just remove unused packages
[21:57] <JPeterson> *removing
[21:57] <enbloc> ah - link count - find . -type d -links 2 returns only leaf dirs
[21:57] <kholzer> JPeterson: Are you out of space?
[21:57] <country0129> Might work, Kholzer.  I'll try that.  Thanks.
[21:57] <kholzer> JPeterson: If it ain't broke, don't fix it :)
[21:58] <centHOGG> concur
[21:58] <Christiannn> kholzer the file is 200G //usr/lib/samba/vfs/system.so
[21:58] <Christiannn> but i think is from the system :S
[21:58] <Christiannn> ?
[21:58] <kholzer> hmm...
[21:58] <kholzer> give me a second
[21:58] <Christiannn> lol
[21:58] <Christiannn> [okay]
[21:58] <kholzer> sounds like a bad bug
[21:58] <kholzer> Christiannn: Go into #samba and ask them what the hell is up.
[21:59] <Seveas> kholzer, or something more serious
[21:59] <Seveas> yes, good idea
[21:59] <kholzer> Christiannn: Something is either seriously broken in samba or in your configuration of samba...
[21:59] <Seveas> Christiannn, does the file go away if you stop samba?
[21:59] <JPeterson> kholzer: yes i agree, but I at least want to remove all unused packages that have services
[21:59] <Christiannn> let me check
[21:59] <kholzer> JPeterson: For security purpouses?  Or what?
[22:00] <Christiannn> nou
[22:00] <skooz> ubuntu 10.10 when i do get log in sometimes my menus are hidden and i have to power off then power on might take a couple times
[22:00] <JPeterson> kholzer: no just mental illness on my part (joking)
[22:00] <Mkaysi> Happy New Year!
[22:00] <kholzer> JPeterson: haha...don't make your life any harder than it needs to be
[22:00] <kholzer> actually, thats what I'm going to do
[22:00] <Christiannn> Seveas no
[22:00] <kholzer> later, going to ride my bike :)
[22:00] <JPeterson> ok so remove --purge bluez* took care of the bluetooth service
[22:00] <insidiousraven> Does anyone have a good tutorial for setting up nvidia tv-out for just the tv with no monitor?
[22:00] <Seveas> Christiannn, then follow kholzer's advice and join #samba
[22:01] <Christiannn> yes thnks iam asking on samba also i will search the file in /var
[22:01] <JPeterson> i still haven't found the package for the "unattended-upgrades" service
[22:01] <Seveas> JPeterson, the unattended-upgrades service surprisingly comes from the unattended-upgrades package :)
[22:02] <Teemu_K> happy new year 2011! (changed just a moment ago"
[22:02] <JPeterson> Seveas: thanks
[22:02] <optik> what is the default root password for an ubuntu install?
[22:02] <edbian> !root
[22:03] <edbian> optik: There ain't one ^^^
[22:03] <JPeterson> Seveas: what about the "x11-common" service
[22:03] <cryptodira> sound sound sound & microphone.... toshiba satellite, amd64 chipset, ubuntu 10.04.... sound in earphone jack only NO microphone...help Please
[22:03] <Seveas> JPeterson, unless you don't want a GUI you should keep it :)
[22:03] <JPeterson> i don't
[22:03] <JPeterson> it was originally a nautty-desktop installation, but i'm removing all that
[22:03] <optik> thats bs, why cant u have super user access to your own system?
[22:04] <insidiousraven> Anyone have experience with nvidia tv out?  I;m quite desperate
[22:04] <Seveas> JPeterson, it can go
[22:04] <Seveas> optik, read the docs. You still have superuser access.
[22:04] <edbian> optik: use sudo
[22:04] <JPeterson> Seveas: but what is the package that installs the x11-common service? I tried apt-get remove --purge x11-common*
[22:05] <optik> im going back to gentoo
[22:05] <Seveas> JPeterson, you can remove everything with x11 in the name x11 is the gui
[22:05] <Christiannn> Seveas what if i reinstall samba with apt-get , iam not getting answers from #samba
[22:05] <Seveas> optik, bye!
[22:05] <MrUnagi> can anyone help me figure out why i can upload files via sftp to a ubuntu box but sshfs with fuse gives permission errors?
[22:06] <edbian> MrUnagi: I can.  What are the permissions on the folder?
[22:06] <bucky> JPeterson, prolly called xorg   do a dpkg -l xorg
[22:06] <JPeterson> Seveas: ok, how do I halt a apt-get that I started by mistake?
[22:06] <JPeterson> ctrl + c doesn't work
[22:07] <MrUnagi> edbian: drwxrwxrwx 5 bjames8462 sftp 4096 2010-12-31 16:05 MyDropbox
[22:07] <cryptodira> pointers to a sound solution anyone..... amd64 chipset, 10.04  ... no speaker sound only earphone...no microphone...need to have this operational for a softphone voip over satellite
[22:07] <edbian> MrUnagi: What is the permission error?
[22:07] <edbian> MrUnagi: According to that everybody should be able to read / write / execute so it should be working
[22:07] <MrUnagi> edbian: that is why i am confused
[22:08] <MrUnagi> 1 sec
[22:08] <edbian> MrUnagi: who are you logging in as?
[22:08] <witless> hi - how can i run a shell script without an interactive terminal?
[22:08] <MrUnagi> edbian: same user than can sftp just fine....bjame462
[22:08] <MrUnagi> er....yea something like that lol
[22:08] <JPeterson> ok, i had to kill it from another login
[22:08] <itaylor57> witless: don't call termal commands
[22:08] <edbian> MrUnagi: Well ftp as no file permissions (that's the problem with it) so it won't matter what they are
[22:08] <MrUnagi> "The operation can’t be completed because you don’t have permission to access some of the items."
[22:09] <MrUnagi> that is what i get when trying to upload over sshfs
[22:09] <edbian> MrUnagi: What are you trying to do?  Mount?
[22:09] <MrUnagi> edbian: mounting works just fine, i can see the mount...i am simply trying to upload to the mount
[22:09] <kad_> heys!! happy New Year all
[22:09] <edbian> MrUnagi: Who are you logging in as on the remote machine? a different user than the one locally?
[22:10] <itaylor57> witless: when do you want this script run?
[22:10] <edbian> MrUnagi: What are the permissions on the files you're tyring to move?
[22:10] <bucky> witless, put it in a file with #!/bin/sh at the top, chmod +x and run it ./filename.sh or sh filename
[22:10] <MrUnagi> -rwxrwxr-x@ 1 MrUnagi  staff  513 Dec 28 00:27 chroot_steps.rtf
[22:10] <MrUnagi> edbian:
[22:10] <kad_> i need to ask!! why Always Laptop Battery kept: "Estimating"? i mean when i un-plug the cord, laptop battery don't tell me: Left time, it always kept appears: Estimating!! why ? thx
[22:10] <witless> itaylor57:
[22:10] <insidiousraven> could anyone help me out with getting my nvidia card to display on the tv via svideo? I can't figure it out :(
[22:11] <magicianlord> kad_: because it doesnt really know
[22:11] <edbian> MrUnagi: If you ssh to the server what are the permissions on the folder than you're mounting? (It will look differently locally on the server than it does remotely)
[22:11] <witless> itaylor57: i'm trying to run a command inside screen when a network interface comes up
[22:11] <MrUnagi> i have ssh login disabled on the user
[22:11] <witless> so i created a script in /etc/init.d/if-up.d
[22:11] <edbian> MrUnagi: make that file 777 just in case
[22:11] <kad_> magicianlord, it kept more than 1 hour like this, is't normal ?
[22:11] <edbian> MrUnagi: When you sshfs you are still logging in as some user so that the file permissions make sense
[22:12] <edbian> MrUnagi: How did you mount? using a command as the bash shell?
[22:12] <itaylor57> witless: good luck with that
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: yes, and the user has sftp access....correct?
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: fuse
[22:12] <edbian> MrUnagi: yes what?
[22:12] <JPeterson> bucky: thanks by the way, x11 and xorg removed now
[22:12] <bucky> np
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: i think i figured out the problem
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: thank you for your help
[22:12] <bucky> it's been called xorg for a while now
[22:12] <edbian> MrUnagi: oh good
[22:12] <magicianlord> kad_: no, it isn't normal. sometimes if you leave the laptop out in the cold, it may have a hard time calibrating. also, if there is a software bug. or hardware bug.
[22:13] <edbian> MrUnagi: What was the problem? :)
[22:13] <MrUnagi> edbian: i think the user has to have ssh access
[22:13] <edbian> MrUnagi: wouldn't surprise me
[22:13] <bucky> witless, you'll have to read up on the files in /etc/network
[22:13] <MrUnagi> edbian: i have to find a way to jail the ssh user
[22:13] <kad_> magicianlord, i think hardware bug because it's new laptop
[22:13] <edbian> MrUnagi: don't make them a sudoer, don't give them a home folder, problem solved
[22:14] <magicianlord> kad_: did it do this in windows?
[22:14] <MrUnagi> edbian: would they have access without a home folder
[22:14] <edbian> MrUnagi: They could log in and run programs and read files but they would not be able to save any changes to anything anywhere without a home folder
[22:15] <kad_> magicianlord, in windows it kept 100% :P although it can handle up to 2 hours lifetime ... but i just want to know why it kept "estimating"
[22:15] <Firartix> that'd be a problem not having a home folder imo...
[22:15] <MrUnagi> edbian: i was hoping to allow the user to read write execute from the home folder only
[22:15] <Firartix> you cannot really do anything about config file or anything
[22:15] <MrUnagi> edbian but not be able to access above the home folder
[22:16] <edbian> MrUnagi: There is probably a way to do that.  I'm not sure.  Just to be clear, by default linux lets users read things all over but they can only write in their home (root can write anywhere)
[22:16] <magicianlord> kad_: This is known bug that affects HP, Compaq, Dell and other manufactures. This is because of a change made in gnome-power-manager where by the estimate is done on time remaining, rather than percentage. This change does not play nice with some hardware and is why you are seeing (estimaing...) constantly.
[22:16] <daedaluz> where is the proper config file for fstab in 10.10? it doesn't list windows partitions yet automounts them and hands permissions to all+dog
[22:17] <jeaton> does ubuntu have any widget applications?
[22:17] <edbian> MrUnagi: chroot is a tool that might be useful
[22:17] <magicianlord> kad_: The bug report about it is here if you fancy a read: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/629258
[22:17] <magicianlord> daedaluz: /etc/fstab
[22:17] <MrUnagi> edbian: i am still getting errors.....i have to figure out why my admin account can and this user cant
[22:17] <daedaluz> magicianlord: I just said it doesn't list windows partitions
[22:17] <magicianlord> daedaluz: why not
[22:18] <edbian> MrUnagi: Is the admin account root
[22:18] <edbian> ?
[22:18] <daedaluz> magicianlord: beats me, thought it's similar magic like moving grub setting to /etc/default
[22:18] <kad_> magicianlord, thx i'll read now, happy new year =)
[22:18] <magicianlord> daedaluz: there is no reason to mess with that, is there
[22:18] <magicianlord> daedaluz: i always nano'ed /etc/fstab
[22:19] <magicianlord> kad_: ok, good year to you
[22:19] <daedaluz> magicianlord: I *said* it's automounting all window partitions, while listing none, and handing permissions to everyone for everything. Yes, I need to edit that POS where ever it resides
[22:20] <edbian> daedaluz: /etc/fstab  is the file you wanna edit
[22:20] <magicianlord> daedaluz: it's probably linked
[22:20] <daedaluz> magicianlord: bingo! but where? that was my original question.
[22:20] <whorush> hey, i hit the wireless button on my laptop to temporarily turn my wireless offf, and now i can't get the wireless to come back on, no matter how many times i restart.  had this problem before, i think there's a command to reset my button?
[22:21] <edbian> whorush: Does your wireless network card show up in the output of lspci?
[22:21] <whorush> edbian, yes, it's there and it works, i just can't enable it
[22:22] <scottj> Can you typically take a hdd out of a desktop ubuntu box and have it boot fine in a laptop? Or during install does ubuntu configure itself to load all the drivers necessary for your hardware? Is there a util to reconfigure for hardware without doing a reinstall?
[22:22] <edbian> whorush: Did you try to insert the module for the card?
[22:22] <magicianlord> daedaluz: i thought that if we just kept on talking, you would eventually find it and feel better
[22:22] <whorush> edbian, what does that mean?
[22:23] <bucky> MrUnagi, in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS it says "Note that you have to change $USER to your login name "  that's part of your problem
[22:23] <itaylor57> witless: probably should  be in /etc/network/if-up.d
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  normally laptop's use differnt sized hd.. 2.5 inch vs 3.25 i think.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  with an adaptor it can work
[22:23] <edbian> whorush: let me explain how it works real quick.  The switch sends a signal to the hardware of the card.  The card recieves the signal and turns on or off (depending on what it was when it got the signal).  If the computer is shut down it will have no effect, the card remembers its' state.  If the card is on when the computer starts it should find it and insert the module into the kernel and use it (a module is basically a driver).  If
[22:23] <scottj> Dr_Willis: it's a laptop ssd in the desktop so physically there's no problem
[22:24] <edbian> the card is off then the system won't see it and no amount of hitting the switch will bring it back.
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  ive moved hd's from one laptop to a radically newer one with few issues. same for desktop machines.
[22:24] <daedaluz> magicianlord: look, after community wiki got gimped for devs only, I've been forced to seek my info here. If you don't know it, fine, but don't act like illiterate retard
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  things to watch out for would be the video card drivers.
[22:24] <MrUnagi> bucky: that would make sense if it didnt work with the admin user
[22:24] <edbian> whorush: The only way to bring the card back is to turn have the computer boot while the card is 'on' or to insert the module manually
[22:24] <magicianlord> daedaluz: dont worry, g. i will help you
[22:24] <edbian> whorush: If the card is listed in lspci than I believe it is on
[22:24] <whorush> edbian, ok, let me try again
[22:25] <bucky> MrUnagi, did you read the ubuntu community documentation at the url above ^^ ?
[22:25] <scottj> Dr_Willis: and for hardware that's different just add/remove stuff from /etc/modules?
[22:25] <edbian> whorush: I can help you figure out the command to manually insert the module again if this doesn't work.
[22:25] <MrUnagi> bucky: i did but i didnt see anything that would aid in my issue
[22:26] <edbian> whorush: Sometimes the killswitches are really weird though.  The card is off but it isn't and one cards off is different than another so it's difficult to program the kernel to handel killswitches for different laptops and different cards
[22:26] <whorush> edbian, when i say "sudo ifup wlan0", it says "interface wlan0 already configured"
[22:26] <bucky> MrUnagi, i guess you're out of luck
[22:26] <edbian> whorush: That is higher level than we're talking.
[22:26] <MrUnagi> bucky: i guess so
[22:26] <edbian> whorush: is this all cli?
[22:26] <bucky> MrUnagi, do you have something against regular ssh ?
[22:26] <magicianlord> cli is the best
[22:27] <MrUnagi> bucky: can you mount ssh like a disk
[22:27] <whorush> edbian, i think it's the kill switch, this happened before and there was some simple command that turned the kill switch back on, i can't remember what it was.
[22:27] <whorush> edbian, cli?
[22:27] <edbian> whorush: command line interface only
[22:27] <edbian> whorush: cli = command line interface
[22:28] <whorush> edbian, yeah, i'm using the command line
[22:28] <edbian> whorush: The command you're thinking off was probably the command to insert the module.  Does lspci list what modules are avaiable for the card?  (modules or drivers)?
[22:28] <bucky> MrUnagi, look into putty... maybe that will work
[22:28] <edbian> whorush: Are you only able to use the command line?
[22:28] <magicianlord> is there an ubuntu "cute" edition?
[22:28] <magicianlord> like with cute things
[22:28] <bucky> magicianlord, like the Hello Kitty Edition
[22:28] <edbian> magicianlord: You're kidding right?
[22:29] <mrdirtft> hi?
[22:29] <bucky> get out your pink guitar
[22:29] <whorush> edbian, no i can use the whoel thing
[22:29] <edbian> mrdirtft: hello
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  ive rarely had to worry aout anything other then the video card drivers. Perhaps wireless card.
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  everything else has always gotten auto detected/setup
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> whorush:  Ive also had issues with wireless killswitches.. one laptop. if i accidently hit the switch in linux. i have to reboot to windows to trun it back on via the switch. :( so i taped over the switch. :)
[22:29] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <edbian> whorush: ok good. Does lspci list any modules or drivers for your card?
[22:29] <alfred_> Happy New Year
[22:29] <whorush> edbian, dr_willis, exactly
[22:29] <rumpe1> magicianlord, i remember to have seen a hannah montana ubuntu edition...
[22:29] <edbian> Dr_Willis: You got in trouble!
[22:29] <magicianlord> bucky: yes, or power puff girls
[22:29] <bucky> absolutely
[22:29] <magicianlord> rumpe1: cool
[22:30] <whorush> edbian, atheros 5001
[22:30] <whorush> edbian, that's what you're talking about?
[22:30] <alfred_> How to activate the disk encryption to ask me to input the pass to boot ?
[22:30] <edbian> whorush: I think so hang on
[22:30] <mrdirtft> what is the command for registering nick name?
[22:30] <edbian> whorush: imma google
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> mrdirtft:   /msg nickserv help
[22:30] <magicianlord> mrdirtft: useadd or adduser
[22:30] <magicianlord> user
[22:30] <alfred_> I mean, how to make Laptop ask me to input the encryption key before booting
[22:31] <edbian> whorush: try this: sudo modprobe ath5k
[22:31] <solo_> HI! We have new year 2011!!!
[22:31] <edbian> whorush: I think that's the correct name of the module
[22:32] <whorush> edbian, ok, restart?
[22:32] <edbian> whorush: sudo iwconfig
[22:32] <edbian> whorush: Is the card listed in that output?
[22:33] <mrdirtft> so i tried /nickserv register mrdirtft
[22:33] <mrdirtft> but it doesnt work
[22:33] <bucky> solo_, in soviet russia... 2011 have you!
[22:33] <whorush> edbian, it is and always was, but it wasnt listed in ifconfig, and it still isnt
[22:34] <edbian> whorush: inserting the module should not require a restart.  it's listed in iwconfig but not ifconfig?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> !register | mrdirtft
[22:34] <whorush> edbian, yes that's right, and it was the same before
[22:34] <[thor]> is it safe to delete old .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[22:35] <rumpe1> [thor], yes
[22:35] <edbian> whorush: Did the modprobe command give any errors?
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> [thor]:  theres an apt command that can auto remove them
[22:35] <solo_> Hello! I first time here and have question about wifi connect
[22:35] <delinquentme> is this "TeamViewer" the best option for networking between ubuntu boxes over the internet?
[22:35] <bucky> [thor], yes with sudo aptitude clean
[22:35] <whorush> edbian, no it seemed to work, no errors
[22:35] <magicianlord> is setting noatime on ext2 worthwhile?
[22:35] <mrdirtft> you guys are awesome. i got it!! =).. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
[22:35] <whorush> edbian, i guess thats good?  :-)
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  its a way to 'share the desktops' but thats not quite the same as 'networking'
[22:36] <edbian> whorush: Restart just to see what happens
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  you could just ssh to the remote box and access it..
[22:36] <edbian> whorush: Well, good that we had no errors.  Bad that it didn't fix the problem.
[22:36] <delinquentme> Dr_Willis, yeah! that sounds more like what im after
[22:36] <whorush> edbian, ok, will do, brb, thanks!
[22:36] <bucky> [thor], there's a setting for it in synaptic somewhere too
[22:36] <[thor]> rumpe1 / Dr_Willis / bucky : thank-you
[22:36] <delinquentme> i supposed a google search would teach me that :D thanks!
[22:36] <solo_> please help to me
[22:36] <Autie> Happy New Year channel!
[22:37] <soreau> ! ask | solo_
[22:37] <delinquentme> Dr_Willis, could i PRACTICE SSHing to my localhost?
[22:37] <JPeterson> how do I allow a palindrome password?
[22:37] <JPeterson> can i remove the password policy entirely from common-password?
[22:38] <solo_> I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY but it don't work on my Ubuntu 10.10
[22:38] <edbian> solo_: Plug the computer into the internet using an ethernet cable.  Install the fwcutter package.  restart
[22:39] <delinquentme> Dr_Willis, or even better if theres an open SSH server out there which lets people practice on?
[22:39] <magicianlord> solo_: download driver from broadcom.com. linux sta driver, compile and follow steps. then, once connected to a wifi network, install the broadcom drivers from hardware jockey, so they are done automatically
[22:40] <bucky> solo_, do you have linux-firmware-nonfree installed ?
[22:40] <JPeterson> ok, i just changed the password as root
[22:41] <bucky> solo_, also when you do install it check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10058197
[22:41] <Maddog420> fedora core will not let me install yum install mysql mysql-server
[22:41] <jpds> Maddog420: Try #fedora
[22:41] <bucky> Maddog420, that's why everybody went to ubuntu
[22:42] <solo_> I tried drivers (Additional Drivers) 1- Broadcom B43 wrieless driver and 2-Broadcom STA wireless driver  - it doesn't work on my laptop HP 4720s
[22:42] <magicianlord> solo_: ok man. try the online driver
[22:42] <edbian> solo_: You need to be connected to the net when you install those drivers.  They download firmware from the internet
[22:43] <whorush> edbian, hello?
[22:43] <bucky> Maddog420, maybe it's because mysql is owned by oracle now... *shrug*
[22:43] <edbian> whorush: hi
[22:43] <whorush> edbian, hey, no dice
[22:44] <edbian> whorush: Sorry to hear that
[22:44] <edbian> whorush: I have to go now though :( good luck!
[22:44] <whorush> edbian, wacky kill switch! thanks for trying!
[22:44] <bucky> Maddog420, there should be some yum repo that has it
[22:44] <whorush> dr_willis, any idea about those kill swtiches?
[22:45] <solo_> I installed the drivers from net by eth0
[22:46] <Galaxor> Hi.  I have hal running because I want to use ivman.  Now, the ivman actions aren't firing.  I'd like to understand what is going on in hal's mind.  What log should I be looking in?
[22:46] <soreau> ! broadcom | solo_
[22:48] <Maddog420> has what thanks for for the answer
[22:48] <bucky> Galaxor, maybe something in /var/log ?
[22:48] <Galaxor> It seems I'm also running the default udevd.  Could they be conflicting with one another?
[22:48] <bucky> Galaxor, what operating system are you running?
[22:49] <Galaxor> bucky: 10.04
[22:49] <bucky> hmm..
[22:49] <Galaxor> bucky: ubuntu server edition 10.04
[22:50] <Galaxor> bucky: Oh, I found the hal logs in /var/log/messages
[22:50] <whorush> my wireless isnt working after i hit the physical kill switch button on my laptop, i had this problem before, but i cant remember how i solved it.  i think theres some way to trick the kill swtich and get it to turn the wireless back on?
[22:50] <gjm> geeks -.-
[22:50] <magicianlord> what is the difference between ubuntu server editio nand desktop
[22:51] <Galaxor> bucky: I see this: Sense: Read of scrambled sector without authentication
[22:51] <bluezone> gjm, you do know you are on freenode right?
[22:51] <solo_> Also I tried driwers from windows by     Ndiswrapper but it also false.
[22:51] <gjm> whorush: can you show a picture?
[22:51] <gjm> bluezone: yes
[22:51] <whorush> gjm, a picture?
[22:52] <bluezone> gjm, okay :)
[22:52] <gjm> whorush: of switch
[22:52] <gjm> whorush: maybe i can help
[22:52] <Galaxor> bucky: Now, I have dvdread and dvdcss, and I can use handbrake to read the dvds.  Does - like - hal need to have dvdcss support or something?
[22:52] <tamaros> what command can I type in the console to discover what type of webcam is built into my laptop?
[22:52] <bucky> Galaxor, "Read of scrambled sector without authentication" indicates that dvdcss is not properly installed
[22:53] <gjm> whorush: sorry, photo ;)
[22:53] <bucky> Galaxor, get it with synaptic
[22:53] <Galaxor> bucky: Hm.  I installed the one from medibuntu.
[22:53] <whorush> gjm, thanks, i don't have a camera or anything, but its a button above my keyboard on my compaq laptop that is to the right of my power button.  it's blue, but it should be flashing orange and blue
[22:54] <Galaxor> bucky: I have 1.2.10-0.3medibuntu1, according to dpkg -l '*dvdcss*'
[22:54] <whorush> gjm, there's some command that fools the kill switch into letting my wireless work :-)
[22:54] <whorush> gjm, this happeend before
[22:54] <bucky> hmm.. dunno
[22:54] <Galaxor> bucky: Should I use the one from /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh instead?
[22:56] <fractal_heart> there doesn't seem to be /proc/bus/usb in my 10.10 and as a result virtualbox can't do usb pass through...how do I mount usbfs?
[22:58] <Galaxor> bucky: Hm.  I ran the install-css.sh script, and it just installed 1.2.10-0.3medibuntu1 again.  No change to hal's behavior.
[22:59] <bucky> Galaxor, hal might need to be restarted ?
[22:59] <icesword> hi
[23:00] <bucky> fractal_heart, VirtualBox 4.0 ? Did you install Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.0.0-69151.vbox-extpack into VB?
[23:00] <fractal_heart> bucky, I did
[23:00] <bucky> hmm.. dunno
[23:00] <fractal_heart> bucky, otherwise, there'd be a warning about usb2 not supported
[23:01] <zs1otb1> Hi, I have upgraded to 10.04 and now my movie players does not show video but only audio. What can be the mattter?
[23:01] <Firartix> first aamsg ever, please excuse me, and btw, happy new year :o
[23:01] <gjm> Happy New Year
[23:01] <zs1otb1> Happy 2011
[23:02] <magicianlord> zs1otb1: use computer janitor