[00:12] <bluesabre> Looks like we ran the last wallpaper contest from mid-February to mid-March, https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/
[00:14] <JackFrost> I can't do artwork things, how can I help?
[00:17] -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: thunar 1.8.12 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-thunar-1-8-12-released-tp57199.html (by Andre Miranda)
[00:18] <bluesabre> Honestly, I'm not sure if much is required at the beginning other than turning a new contest on and announcing it
[04:01] <JackFrost> sgt-puzzles 20191231.79a5378-1 uploaded by Ben Hutchings (Closes Debian #925078, #925824)
[11:46] <bluesabre> nice
[11:48] <bluesabre> I have a lot of nice updates staged for the launcher too, suppose I should release that this weekend, https://git.launchpad.net/sgt-launcher/log/?h=master
[11:48] <bluesabre> Ooh, and I even have 1 new translation available https://translations.launchpad.net/sgt-launcher
[11:55] <astraljava> bluesabre: Hi, what's the status of that screensaver fix batch?


[01:39] <MythbuntuGuest68> buenas buenas
[01:40] <MythbuntuGuest37> #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <thedarkone> hey all
[14:05] <Blz> Hello everybody:  It looks like I'm going to have to send the analog output of my cable box through to my PVR150.  Just a quick question -- how bad is the latency using this method?  Also, how severe can I expect the quality degradation to be if I'm watching SDTV on a regular CRT SDTV?
[14:06] <Blz> And is there some sort of quality setting I can tweak in order to reduce the effects?
[14:15] <sawireless1> hi from South Africa
[14:18] <Blz> hello
[14:57] <sawireless10> hi to all again
[14:57] <sawireless10> i want to find out what media server do i use to run this setup ?
[16:18] <Seeker`> any idea where the option to disable auto-expire is?
[16:19] <Seeker`> nevermind, found it
[21:35] <DGMurdockIII> how well is getting audio over HDMI suported
[21:35] <tgm4883> DGMurdockIII, IIRC, it really depends on the audio chipset
[21:36] <DGMurdockIII> not using a im using a graphis card
[21:36] <DGMurdockIII> ATI all in wonder HD
[21:36] <tgm4883> yea
[21:38] <tgm4883> !hdmi% | DGMurdockIII
[21:38] <Zinn> DGMurdockIII: For Help with the Intel HDMI Audio chipsets try the resource found here: https://wiki.foxmediasystems.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intel_HDMI_Audio
[21:39] <DGMurdockIII> i dont use a intel HDMI
[21:39] <DGMurdockIII> it ATI
[21:39] <tgm4883> you sure?
[21:39] <tgm4883> do
[21:39] <tgm4883> aplay -l
[21:39] <tgm4883> aplay -L
[21:39] <DGMurdockIII> hdmi cord plug in to ati cord
[21:39] <DGMurdockIII> card
[21:39] <DGMurdockIII> now do you think i now
[21:40] <DGMurdockIII> dont call me stupid
[21:40] <tgm4883> I didn't
 tgm4883, actually most HDMI chipsets are intel
 even on ati cards?
 tgm4883, even if its an ATI video chipset
[21:41] <tgm4883> I asked our HDMI expert
[21:42] <DGMurdockIII> why isnt he talking in here then
[21:42] <DGMurdockIII> \i dont belive you
[21:42] <tgm4883> he's busy, just popped in for a quick answer
[21:43] <tgm4883> and you don't have to believe me if you don't want
[21:43] <tgm4883> all you have to do is check your chipset
[21:43] <tgm4883> Why would I lie to you?
[21:43] <DGMurdockIII> hold on
[21:44] <tgm4883> i mean, wtf would that accomplish?
[21:48] <DGMurdockIII> ok hold on
[21:49] <DGMurdockIII> i actally dont have mythbunt install on my system i just wanted to know if it will work so if it will and you can help me get the audio to work no problem
[21:49] <tgm4883> do you have ubuntu installed on the system?
[21:49] <tgm4883> pop in a live disk and find out
[21:49] <DGMurdockIII> yeah
[21:49] <tgm4883> well you can do it in ubuntu too
[21:49] <DGMurdockIII> i have ubuntu installed
[21:49] <tgm4883> aplay isn't mythbuntu specific
[21:50] <DGMurdockIII> is there a way to restoet ubuntu to defult install state
[21:51] <DGMurdockIII> let me boot up my systel
[21:51] <tgm4883> all "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" do is list things
[21:51] <DGMurdockIII> becse i fed up my system trying to get the open source driver on it
[21:51] <tgm4883> thats not changing things
[21:51] <DGMurdockIII> ok
[21:51] <DGMurdockIII> let me try that
[21:52] <tgm4883> also remember
[21:52] <tgm4883> !weekend
[21:52] <Zinn> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the week.
[21:52] <DGMurdockIII> then if i can get the sound to work
[21:52] <DGMurdockIII> can you help me set it up to be used as mythbuntu
[21:53] <DGMurdockIII> please man if it would me a lot if you do
[21:53] <tgm4883> err, well if it's supported and you follow that link that zinn gave you it shouldn't be too difficult
[21:53] <DGMurdockIII> zin is a bot ban
[21:53] <DGMurdockIII> why should i listen to a bot
[21:54] <tgm4883> because it has valuable info?
[21:54] <tgm4883> like the link it gave you?
[21:54] <DGMurdockIII> i really like to talk to real people
[21:54] <Zinn> because I said so
[21:55] <tgm4883> because if you don't follow that link and see if your card is supported then you won't get any help?
[21:56] <DGMurdockIII> when i when to it but it dose not show a list of cards
[21:56] <tgm4883> did you read the page?
[21:56] <DGMurdockIII> yes
[21:57] <tgm4883> did you run the commands?
[21:58] <DGMurdockIII> my keyboard dose not have a ~ how can i type it
[21:58] <rhpot1991> shift and `
[21:58] <DGMurdockIII> it dosent have that
[21:58] <rhpot1991> ~ is just your home directory
[21:59] <rhpot1991> so /home/your user
[21:59]  * rhpot1991 hops in mid convorsation and doesn't read back, hopefully is not giving incorrect information
[22:00] <DGMurdockIII> it dose not have the ` it a keyboard made for MEDia centers
[22:00] <rhpot1991> are you trying to type: ~$ lsb_release -a?
[22:01] <tgm4883> DGMurdockIII, what keyboard is it?
[22:01] <DGMurdockIII> ii figer out how to be able to type the ~ so i cantype thay
[22:01] <DGMurdockIII> logitech dinovo mini
[22:03] <rhpot1991> ignore the ~$ in the commands, that just is there to signify you are at a command prompt
[22:04] <DGMurdockIII> no lsb modules avalbe
[22:05] <DGMurdockIII> no lsb modules avalbe
[22:05] <tgm4883> DGMurdockIII, does it say what version of Ubuntu you are on?
[22:06] <DGMurdockIII> 9.04
[22:08] <tgm4883> did you follow the rest of the instructions
[22:09] <DGMurdockIII> yes i got it to work
[22:10] <DGMurdockIII> now how can i get it to so it will boot ub in to the used mythubunt
[22:10] <DGMurdockIII> iv heard i can turn a stander ubuntu in to it by downloading the stuff
[22:10] <DGMurdockIII> when do i need to get
[22:11] <DGMurdockIII> please dont leve me in the cold
[22:11] <tgm4883> http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[22:12] <DGMurdockIII> cant you just tell me what i need or is there alot i need
[22:12] <tgm4883> I pointed you to the info
[22:12] <tgm4883> if you keep expecting people to hand feed you the info, then you will probably get a 24hour ban
[22:12] <tgm4883> because I haven't eaten today and i'm grouchy
[22:13] <tgm4883> its really easy to add what you need to ubuntu, just read the page
[22:14] <DGMurdockIII> that just tell me i need to download the mythbuntu image and install that
[22:14] <DGMurdockIII> that not what i want
[22:15] <tgm4883> DGMurdockIII, no it doesn't
[22:15] <tgm4883> it tells you to install MCC and configure from there
[22:16] <DGMurdockIII> ok can i also download the frontend too
[22:18] <DGMurdockIII> i will do that please please please please please please dont give me a link this what do i need to do once i have that all instal to make it start up
[22:18] <DGMurdockIII> start up on boot
[22:19] <tgm4883> listen Donnie, I really want to help you, but it seems that you want someone to do everything for you.  I don't plan on going to Indiana anytime soon, so don't count on getting your hand held for this.  Read the documentation and then if you have any questions you can ask them here..
[22:20] <tgm4883> I mean seriously, how do you get to be 23 and expect everyone to do everything for you?
[22:20] <tgm4883> I don't think i'm being unreasonable here
[22:21] <DGMurdockIII> i i was asking is what packages i need to install andi would install them
[22:21] <DGMurdockIII> you cant help me with that
[22:22] <tgm4883> and I told you to read that page and install MCC
[22:22] <tgm4883> heck, even if you just install MCC and start it up, I would hope you can figure it out from there
[22:22] <tgm4883> MCC is pretty intuitive
[22:22] <DGMurdockIII> and i did
[22:23] <DGMurdockIII> and that page wasent very clear
[22:23] <DGMurdockIII> on what i need
[22:23] <DGMurdockIII> the most helpfull thing i saw was it sad on getting mythbunu on you pc was to install from scratch
[22:24] <tgm4883> did you click on the "install mythbuntu" link?
[22:28] <DGMurdockIII> yes and it saidd firefox dose not now how to open this link
[22:29] <DGMurdockIII> i want a list of them so i can look them up and instally
[22:29] <DGMurdockIII> or do i have yo go to that site on my ubuntu pc
[22:29] <tgm4883> install mythbuntu-desktop
[22:29]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[22:30] <tgm4883> yea, you have to go to that site on your Ubuntu PC
[22:30] <tgm4883> what PC are you on now?
[22:33] <DGMurdockIII> ubiquity frontend shold i instal that as well
[22:33] <DGMurdockIII> or no
[22:34] <tgm4883> you should install exactly what I told you to install in the first place.  MCC and configure from there
[22:37] <DGMurdockIII> ok
[22:38] <DGMurdockIII> 'will that allow me to make it exzatly like if i where install from a download iso
[22:38] <DGMurdockIII> and when do the setup will it download the stuff other stuff i need to make it work
[22:39] <tgm4883> yes, you can configure however you like
[22:39] <tgm4883> and mcc will download what it needs
[22:42] <tgm4883> i'm going to go cook lunch now
[22:42] <tgm4883> I think it's better for the both of us if I do that
[22:42] <DGMurdockIII> thanks i shold have just got mcc
[22:42] <DGMurdockIII> it will now auto start up right
[22:43] <DGMurdockIII> it download when i need
[22:44] <DGMurdockIII> sorry if i came on as a dick
[22:44] <Zinn> DGMurdockIII: Please watch your language.
[22:54] <hads> That looked annoying.
[23:37] <DGMurdockIII> hi
[23:42] <DGMurdockIII> how do i get ride i the ubuntu gnome menu now that i have mythbuntu working
[23:45] <MythbuntuGuest13> Hi, I have mythbuntu jaunty installed on my Dell Dual AMD64. the install worked great but I can only get one of the cards on my pvr500 to work
[23:46] <MythbuntuGuest13> I have seen a lost of postings indcating this is a comman problem but cant find a common answer
[23:47] <MythbuntuGuest13> most of the posts I have seen about this are a couple of years old.
[23:47] <MythbuntuGuest13> any thoughts on how to get my second tuner to work?
[23:49] <MythbuntuGuest13> !help
[23:49] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[23:49] <MythbuntuGuest13> !status
[23:49] <Zinn> I am alive.
[23:51]  * DGMurdockIII slaps tgm4883 around a bit with a large trout


[06:44] <ripps> Hmmm.... I'm considering upgrading to Maverick already. I'm getting antsy not having anything to upgrade and debug
[07:11] <nikolam> HM, I was thinking.. Could kernel be xen-enabled and with realtime options, at the same time?
[08:00] <LLStarks> stupid question. does openoffice need to be huge? could its functionality be replicated at 20MB or less?
[08:05] <Sensiva> LLStarks you may remove unneeded packages of openoffice
[08:06] <LLStarks> yeah
[08:06] <LLStarks> but it still occupies a lot of space on the iso
[09:13] <mrsun> ok im freakin tired of this
[09:13] <mrsun> computer starts working from the harddrive and the whole freakin OS is unusable for 5 minutes?
[09:13] <mrsun> even disconnected some internet connections etc
[09:13] <mrsun> WTF IS WRONG :/
[10:22] <Ian_Corne> mrsun: i'm guessing hardware failure?
[10:26] <mrsun> Ian_Corne, in what ? ... the compute rwas in perfect health before i installed ubuntu on it
[10:26] <mrsun> had same problem with ALL ubuntu machines
[10:26] <mrsun> whole os goes to hell as soon as hd starts working hard
[10:30] <SwedeMike> you have AHCI set for the sata controller in BIOS?
[10:56] <nikolam> I have similar problem on LTS 8.04 Whenever hig disk-intensive task is done, computer is useless. I run software raid1 on 2 sata partitions, 64bit
[10:57] <nikolam> someone told me its something sbout process priority thing or something and it partially fixed during package installs in new lts 10.04
[10:58] <nikolam> But talking about disk usage cheduler on other Os`es it is a general problem on all OS today, how to prioratize disk acces bandwith not to starve system/apps
[11:00] <Trewas> ext4 is very slow when a program uses fsync() a lot, like dpkg does
[11:00] <nikolam> mrsun,
[11:00] <nikolam> I had it with ext3
[11:01] <SwedeMike> yes, generally interactive performance goes to crap with lots of disk io, that's why I have separate system and data drives
[11:01] <vega> btw 10.04 discussion is in #ubuntu.. this chan switched to 10.10
[11:01] <nikolam> Think we would need for about 4 years at lease to have Btrfs and all goodies like additional flash drive for disk operations speedup etc
[11:02] <SwedeMike> I use SSDs for system drives, makes a huge difference.
[11:02] <nikolam> SwedeMike, you use NAS?
[11:02] <SwedeMike> nikolam: no.
[11:02] <nikolam> aha, separate drives in same computer
[11:02] <SwedeMike> nikolam: yes.
[11:03] <nikolam> vega, I heard about plans for Btrfs in 10.10 Hope till 11.x tere will be default etc
[11:04] <nikolam> SwedeMike, I was thinking, would something about that change if I use rt-kernel
[11:04] <SwedeMike> question is if btrfs will solve any of this, I'm sceptical.
[11:04] <SwedeMike> nikolam: I doubt -rt would fix anything.
[11:04] <SwedeMike> -rt is only for high precision local events.
[11:05] <nikolam> SwedeMike, yep, i was thinking to say 5 years for Btrfs to give significant and stable, but 4 sounded more optimistic
[11:06] <SwedeMike> interactive performance under load is all about speed/interactivity compromise, when they increase interactivity people complain about speed going down
[11:07] <Trewas> btrfs can't do any magic tricks to improve performance, but in 5 years most of the harddrives will be SSD which solves most of the problems
[11:07] <mrsun> nikolam, ive had it with every freakin filesystem ive tried
[11:07] <nikolam> Anyway, its only way to go now, so by end of 2011, I suppose it will be default
[11:07] <nikolam> Maybe best thing could be its ability to updafe FS version on diks, with existing system/data
[11:07] <mrsun> SwedeMike, wells tuff in RAM etc should not go to hell when the disk reads
[11:07] <mrsun> like network stack
[11:08] <nikolam> mrenouf, no sweat, its more of architectural/kernel problem and fs only add to it
[11:08] <mrsun> that it goes down so bad that it even disconnects internet sometimes cause of disk io ?
[11:08] <SwedeMike> mrsun: disconnects internet? how does that manifest itself?
[11:08] <nikolam> sounds to me separating disks to Nas/other machine and using iscsi to main machine might improve it or something
[11:08] <mrsun> SwedeMike, disk starts reading or writing or whatever, everything just halts
[11:08] <mrsun> cant even move mouse
[11:09] <mrsun> then it disconnects chat networks etc
[11:09] <SwedeMike> mrsun: if you get disconnected from irc then it just means the processes are not responding to keepalives, so yes, computer is busy with other things, it doesnt mean it disconnects your internet connection
[11:09] <nikolam> mrsun, internet have nothing to do with it, my net apps works fine during disk chalks
[11:10] <mrsun> nikolam, well mine dont
[11:10] <mrsun> it just halts the whole damn system
[11:10] <mrsun> nothing works more then the hd writes/reads that is going on
[11:10] <nikolam> mrsun, i guess something is wrong on your comp.
[11:10] <yofel> hm, maybe try to increase swappiness a bit instead of decreasing it, that should prevent the system from suddenly going completely useless as it will swap things that aren't used that often out in advance
[11:10] <nikolam> what ubuntu version do you run
[11:10] <nikolam> also how much ram and what apps etc
[11:11] <mrsun> nikolam, have same problem with two other computers with ubuntu
[11:11] <mrsun> 10.04 now
[11:11] <nikolam> because it is ubuntu+1 here, mainly for dev versions
[11:11] <mrsun> 2gb ram
[11:11] <mrsun> yes i saw you have moved the support
[11:11] <nikolam> #ubuntu might be beter place for release supported versions mrsun
[11:11] <mrsun> but to move to another channel and start asking same things again is just stupid as you are all knowing my problems now :P
[11:12] <SandGorgon> also try vm.overcommit_memory and overcommit_ratio
[11:12] <nikolam> dunno, I like to talk about future, Btrfs, such stuff :)
[11:13] <SandGorgon> I'd like to talk about future of linux sound - is it going to be Pulseaudio or does a low-latency framework like Jack make sense .. from a gaming + media standpoint
[11:13] <yofel> hm, I wonder if I should open a SDD trim thread on the forum, I set discard in fstab, but I don't really get how to check if it works, the only howto I can find results in me thinking it doesn't work
[11:14] <yofel> SandGorgon: we had a long thread about that a week ago on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list, add you 2 cents there
[11:14] <yofel> erm... *SSD
[11:14] <SandGorgon> yofel, all right
[11:14] <nikolam> I witnessed several times people uninstalling pulseaudio just to get audio working. I guess Apps are not doing good job catshing up with pulse or something
[11:15] <yofel> SandGorgon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-May/thread.html
[11:15] <SandGorgon> yofel, gotcha.. thanks
[11:16] <yofel> nikolam: most things work fine as long as apps use pulseaudio, once they try to ignore it we get a mess...
[11:17] <nikolam> I never got to like those web-displayed mailing lists. I SO miss one frame on left, to browse messages in UsenetNews-like manner, like in Mail client
[11:18] <nikolam> yoasif, problem is those things get often dessynchronized, Development of system parts and all Apps etc
[11:18] <SandGorgon> yofel, ahh.. i saw the thread. I am more concerned with audio servers rather than low level audio (OSS4, alsa). However that a sound server is needed is a foregone conclusion  (http://linuxplumbersconf.org/2009/slides/Paul-Davis-lpc2009.pdf might be interesting )
[11:20] <yofel> oh, nice document, will read it later
[11:20] <SandGorgon> yofel, the more interesting post is this one - http://braid-game.com/news/?p=364 - written by Jonathan Blow of Braid. The comments are most illuminating w.r.t problems of game development in linux vs other platforms
[12:44] <BUGabundo> happy Sunday fellowers Mavericks
[13:02] <zniavre_> thank you BUGabundo
[13:03] <BUGabundo> zniavre_: for?
[13:23] <zniavre_> BUGabundo_lunch, bugGabundo> happy Sunday fellowers Mavericks
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:51] <BUGabundo_lunch> zniavre_: :)
[13:51] <BUGabundo_lunch> hey blue-frog
[13:51] <BUGabundo_lunch> oops
[13:51] <BUGabundo_lunch> blueskaj is gone :(
[15:29] <BUGabundo> !ping
[15:29] <BUGabundo> !controls
[15:49] <alex_mayorga> join /ubuntu+bugs
[15:53] <BUGabundo> eheh alex_mayorga
[15:53] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: hello there!
[15:53] <BUGabundo> too many errors to fix with a simple sed :)
[15:54] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: ??
[15:54] <BUGabundo> (2010-05-16 15:49:16) alex_mayorga: join /ubuntu+bugs
[15:54] <alex_mayorga> oh! you mean my silly join
[15:55] <alex_mayorga> I guess it's just a sleepy Sunday morning :)
[15:55] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: already on meerkat?
[15:57] <BUGabundo> of course
[15:59] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: anything fancy or worth the move?
[15:59] <BUGabundo> sure... breakage :)
[15:59] <alex_mayorga> oh! yeah I miss that
[16:00] <alex_mayorga> but I still have slight breakage on lucid, so I'll stick around until it's fixed I guess
[16:00] <alex_mayorga> namely Bug #551668
[17:29] <yoasif> hey guys -- anyone around?
[17:29] <yoasif> i need some help/ideas on how to report a gdm/xorg bug
[17:39] <charlie-tca> yoasif: in maverick?
[17:49] <yoasif> charlie-tca, yeah -- lucid too
[17:50] <charlie-tca> This is what I use - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:51] <charlie-tca> If you know the package, in lucid you could try "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE"
[17:51] <charlie-tca> I don't know if it will work for Maverick yet
[17:51] <yoasif> yeah i know how to do that
[17:52] <yoasif> issue is that i don't know when to do that, and with no xorg accessible, there is no gui for ubuntu-bug
[17:55] <charlie-tca> so, you need to file it manually?
[17:55] <charlie-tca> You can go direct to launchpad to file it without ubuntu-bug using https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Here is a format I use for that - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Bug-Report-Layout
[17:56] <charlie-tca> It helps to get all the information in that is needed
[18:41] <xnguard> Is there a way I can add Maverick as a repo, but only consider it for certain packages?
[18:47] <arand> xnguard: With a lot of apt pinning, it might work, but I don't think it would be simple, downloading separate packages from LP/packages.ubuntu.com might be better.
[18:48] <xnguard> arand: Right, but the only way I can sorta keep up to date with newer releases is to set loads of pages up in Update Scanner and hope it catches new releases, then go download them. :D
[18:48] <xnguard> I'm doing it for Debian sid right now (much, much newer crypto libs), and, well... I was hoping there was a less horrible way.
[18:50] <arand> Ubuntu generally doesn't do mixed systems with different releases, looking for backports or PPAs is generally what works
[18:52] <xnguard> I know.  Sadly, no backports immediately visible for libnss3-1d or libncurses5 or some of the other stuff I'm looking for.
[18:54] <xnguard> I just suddenly wondered if I could do something clever and semi-elegant to mix in Maverick not-backports plus maybe some sid.
[18:58] <arand> It's likely possibly, but likely not elegant nor simple, nop safe.
[18:59] <xnguard> I can live without safe.
[18:59] <xnguard> Well, so far.  I mean, I run use Gentoo for a firewall. :D
[19:00] <xnguard> Ack.  "...use Gento ~x86..."
[19:00] <arand> Well, I'm not much help with my handwavey guesses though.
[19:02] <xnguard> I kind of suspect there actually isn't a way to do it in a semi-clean way.  I've spent the morning looking through the likely suspects, like the sources.list(5) manpage, forums, and so on.
[19:07] <nishanth> what does this mean.....(EE) VESA kernel modesetting driver in use refuse to load, it comes with a prompt saying ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[19:19] <nishanth> what does this mean.....(EE) VESA kernel modesetting driver in use refuse to load
 it comes with a prompt saying ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[19:20] <nishanth> is everyone dead?
[19:23] <SwedeMike> are you running 10.04 ?
[19:24] <nishanth> SwedeMike ; just upgraded to lucid
[19:24] <SwedeMike> nishanth: then you shouldn't ask in here ,this is for 10.10 only.
[19:24] <nishanth> isn't it a lucid support channel?
[19:25] <penguin42> nishanth: This channel is for the next ubuntu, since Lucid is now current it is now in #ubuntu
[19:25] <penguin42> nishanth: When Maverick becomes current it will also move to #ubuntu
[19:26] <nishanth> just a tangential question is it recommended to upgrade to meerkat now?
[19:26] <penguin42> no
[20:00] <DanaG> !find kdecorationbridge.sh
[20:01] <DanaG> !find kdecorationbridge.sh lucid
[20:01] <DanaG> er
[20:01] <DanaG> !find kdecorationbridge.h lucid
[20:02] <DanaG> ah
[20:07] <arand> DanaG: There's always apt-file you know ;)
[20:09] <jetole> Hey guys. Does anyone know where I can find a search engine applet like the one in the pic? http://www.canonical.com/files/masthead/ubuntu-light/light.jpg
[20:37] <kklimonda> engine applet?
[20:37] <kklimonda> ach, search engine :)
[20:37] <kklimonda> jetole: it's a unity-only feature for now
[20:37] <BUGabundo> ehe
[23:18] <Ken8521> are maveric iso's available for download yet?
[23:20] <duffydack> Ken8521, June 3rd
[23:20] <Ken8521> oh ok
[23:20] <Ken8521> will testdrive let me try one of the current ISO's?