[09:51] <NoUse> tuxinafedora what didn't you like about apt-get?
[09:51] <EmxBA> Warbo: is gnome-ppp included with Ubuntu
[09:52] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: Ubuntu does a good job with it ^_^
[09:52] <Warbo> EmxBA: I don't think so
[09:52] <tuxinafedora> noUse: it was slow.
[09:52] <|neo> can some on helpme to set up a picture on grub background ?
[09:52] <EmxBA> NoUse: aptget rulez!
[09:52] <NoUse> tuxinafedora its faster than yum :-)
[09:52] <tuxinafedora> under fedora!
[09:52] <EmxBA> Warbo: never mind, i'll try gnomefiles.org
[09:52] <tuxinafedora> :-) and maybe it won't randomly bring my system to a grinding halt?
[09:52] <Warbo> tuxinafedora: It's a hell of a lot faster than Portage!
[09:52] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: Its about a year now
[09:52] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: Never had a problem with it yet.
[09:52] <Warbo> EmxBA: It is in Universe
[09:53] <EmxBA> Warbo: oh, OK
[09:53] <tuxinafedora> rukartic: how hard will the switch be from slack do you think?
[09:53] <rukuartic> If there's anyone who'se used Ubuntu on a laptop, if you'd kindly backscroll to my question, thanks ^_^
[09:53] <EmxBA> Warbo: what about Gnomedial
[09:53] <GoLoGo> is it possible to install the latest nvidia drivers under a live cd desktop enviornment?
[09:53] <tuxinafedora> generally, how well does gentoo deal with compilin gfrom source?
[09:53] <NoUse> tuxinafedora well when you graft something as slick as apt-get onto something as bloated as Fedora, things are bound to get fouled up :-)
[09:53] <tuxinafedora> that sounds stupid, but installing with deps is a bitch at times.
[09:53] <NoUse> tuxinafedora what do you mean? all gentoo does is compile from source
[09:54] <EmxBA> GoLoGo: no, install Ubuntu
[09:54] <kbrooks> NoUse: it uses ebuilds
[09:54] <ShadowNova> A lot of my OpenGL applications are running abnormally slowly, notchy, etc. Is there some way to fix this?
[09:54] <NoUse> kbrooks yeah I know that
[09:54] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: that finds the deps as well.
[09:54] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: I've noticed that too
[09:54] <Warbo> tuxinafedora: I have only used Gentoo once, trying to rebuild Kororaa CD, and it took AGES just to get a list of what's available. Then it didn't even work!
[09:54] <tuxinafedora> I'm talking about tar files.
[09:54] <NoUse> tuxinafedora like any other distro I guess
[09:54] <tuxinafedora> cuz when ./configure breaks, that's a bad day :-P
[09:54] <ShadowNova> How do we fix it then?
[09:54] <NoUse> tuxinafedora perhaps ask that in #gentoo?
[09:54] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: some are less of a PITa than others.
[09:55] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: Wish I knew. You using an old video card?
[09:55] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: I wanted to know about ubuntu, not gentoo.
[09:55] <Syco54645> i just updated to the lastest growisofs and now k3b says that it cannot find growisofs.  what can i do to fix this?
[09:55] <tuxinafedora> how does ubuntu work with ati drivers/
[09:55] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, raedon 9200SE
[09:55] <tuxinafedora> ?*
[09:55] <tuxinafedora> i just bassically need to be able to run at 1600x1200 aside from that I don't care.
[09:55] <NoUse> !tell tuxinafedora about ati
[09:55] <tuxinafedora> accellerated I don't care about*
[09:55] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: interestin. ...whats your processor? (btw, nothere to answer question... I don'thave that knowledge =\)
[09:56] <Warbo> tuxinafedora: It crashes a lot with fglrx for me, but that is probably the driver not the distro (I stuck to ati)
[09:56] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, 2.0 GHZ
[09:56] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: I'm running that on my box... old nvidia card too.
[09:56] <tuxinafedora> Warbo, is the Xorg in the same dir?
[09:56] <tuxinafedora> as standard distros?
[09:56] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: Out of interest, you have the right drivers for yourcard? Checked thew iki?
[09:56] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, yep. I slaved over it for a month or so, but I git it working.
[09:56] <rukuartic> iki=wiki
[09:57] <thetallest> how can I change the screen resolution in ubuntu ??
[09:57] <Warbo> tuxinafedora: In Ubuntu it is, in Dapper it is a little different (I think it is stil standard for Xorg 7 I think)
[09:57] <tuxinafedora> wow, this is going to take me a while to get used to it.
[09:57] <racestoapril1> does anyone know how to install easyubuntu on ubuntu 5.04
[09:57] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, my 3d applications aork fine now, just openGL is crappy
[09:57] <tuxinafedora> 5.10 is dapper, correct/
[09:57] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: I can't run bzflag for beans =\
[09:57] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: you can't. hoary is old
[09:57] <NoUse> tuxinafedora no
[09:57] <kbrooks> Tux_Laburante: right
[09:57] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, that works fine for me
[09:57] <NoUse> tuxinafedora 5.10 = breezy, 6.06 = dapper
[09:57] <kbrooks> NoUse: FIVE POINT 10
[09:57] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: is 5.10 the current distro version/
[09:57] <Warbo> tuxinafedora: On about drivers and stuff, I plugged my nvidia drive into an ati machine and it swapped drivers automatically on boot (on Dapper)
[09:57] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, step mania, robocode, etc.
[09:57] <kbrooks> tuxinafedora: yes
[09:57] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: I'm also using an nvidia geforce 2 but that might have no problem >>
[09:58] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: ...wait does that run under wine?
[09:58] <tuxinafedora> crap!
[09:58] <NoUse> kbrooks what?
[09:58] <racestoapril1> so there is no way to have mp3 support in 5.04
[09:58] <tuxinafedora> can someone send me a link to dapper?
[09:58] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: there is
[09:58] <Flannel> racestoapril1: yes there is.
[09:58] <rukuartic> racestoapril1: I'm playing an mp3 now.
[09:58] <rukuartic> !mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:58] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, what?
[09:58] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: but not with EU
[09:58] <NoUse> !tell tuxinafedora about dapper
[09:58] <tuxinafedora> oh, that's a beta....
[09:58] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: How are you running stepmania? Is that ocmpliled for linux, or are you running it with wine?
[09:59] <ShadowNova> rukuartic, compiled for linux
[09:59] <rukuartic> Ah. o-o
[09:59] <Warbo> Well I am going to install the latest kernel in Dapper and rebuild my CD, wish me luck :)
[09:59] <rukuartic> still looking for anyone who'se used a laptop with linux... can anyone reccommend a good compatible laptop?
[09:59] <tuxinafedora> please tell me ubuntu is slightly less bloated than fedora...
[09:59] <tuxinafedora> btw.
[09:59] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: it fits in 1 cd :P
[09:59] <ShadowNova> dont do hp laptops
[09:59] <NoUse> tuxinafedora 1 CD vs 4, you do the math
[09:59] <rukuartic> ShadowNova: thats a given XD
[10:00] <tuxinafedora> rukuartic: IBM thinkpad.
[10:00] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: Toshiba any good?
[10:00] <ShadowNova> My friend tried. Nothing at all was supported. Not even his monitor.
[10:00] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: I don't know what gets downloaded.
[10:00] <Pip> w
[10:00] <tuxinafedora> rukartic: a pain in the balls to deal with last I tried.
[10:00] <NoUse> tuxinafedora the default install is all off one CD, the default install of Fedora comes off at least 3 if I remember correctly
[10:00] <rukuartic> Anything made by HP or Dell or Compaq doesn't work too swiftly with linux... as I've understood.
[10:00] <tuxinafedora> rukartic: better than HP though.
[10:01] <tuxinafedora> NoUse: Does this come with openoffice 2.0?
[10:01] <ShadowNova> No, Dell is wonderful.
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: I'll second that.  T43 here.
[10:01] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: yes.
[10:01] <NoUse> tuxinafedora yes
[10:01] <tuxinafedora> AND, how hard are the printers to set up?
[10:01] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: It comes default install with almost everything you need.
[10:01] <tuxinafedora> tonraruss: t42P
[10:01] <NoUse> tuxinafedora easy
[10:01] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: For everything else there's mastercar.... ....apt-get
[10:01] <ShadowNova> I use dell, and my sound card is the only think that is wierd, but it usually works
[10:01] <tuxinafedora> noUse: good, because localhost:<portnumber for cups> was not easy to remember.
[10:02] <rukuartic> tuxinafedora: man cups
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> My HP PSC 1310 worked wonderfully - just selected from the menu.
[10:02] <tuxinafedora> does this come stock with alsa?
[10:02] <ShadowNova> HP psc 2110 also works. Even with sane
[10:02] <NoUse> tuxinafedora yes
[10:02] <kbrooks> tuxinafedora: um, why do u care
[10:02] <NoUse> tuxinafedora look at distrowatch.com
[10:02] <tuxinafedora> kbrooks: my soundcard gets picky from time to time.
[10:02] <rajeev> i m not getting audio on my system its says some error msg as "Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register" SO can any one tell me what to do.. plz reply
[10:03] <racestoapril1> is there a version of automatix for 5.04
[10:03] <tuxinafedora> one last question... what 2.6 kernel does it ship with?
[10:03] <rukuartic> !automatix
[10:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[10:03] <ShadowNova> Speaking of, does anyone use AUdacity? I can't get it to detect my sound card at all.
[10:03] <NoUse> racestoapril1 what part of adding repos confuses you?
[10:03] <Abo> I have installed KDE on ubuntu, now I would like to assign kde as the default window manager to one user, how can I do that?
[10:03] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: No
[10:03] <racestoapril1> i've done the things
[10:03] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: It only supports breezy
[10:03] <racestoapril1> and it still doesn't work
[10:03] <racestoapril1> ok
[10:04] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: why not upgrade to breezy?
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Abo: When you log in selecting it from the sessions menu, it will ask whether you'd like to make it default for them.
[10:04] <oscar> is there aubuntu newbie channel?
[10:04] <racestoapril1> when i type in the command
[10:04] <racestoapril1> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:04] <rajeev> i m not getting audio on my system its says some error msg as "Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register" SO can any one tell me what to do.. plz reply also while opening Multimedia system selector i got the same msg.. so ant one tell me what to do plz
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> oscar: Here & #ubuntu-nun
[10:04] <jared_> rajeev: did you try running gst-register like it said?
[10:04] <oscar> thanks
[10:04] <kbrooks> tonyyarusso: dont recommend that channel
[10:05] <rajeev> jared_, i dont know how to run it..:(
[10:05] <kbrooks> tonyyarusso: help is a bit offtopic in there
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> kbrooks: Heh, yeah just looked there and there's 2...  Oops.
[10:05] <racestoapril1> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:05] <kbrooks> tonyyarusso: oops what?
[10:05] <racestoapril1> i get this
[10:05] <racestoapril1> root@seth1991:/home/seth1991/easyubuntu # sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:05] <racestoapril1> Reading package lists... Done
[10:05] <racestoapril1> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:05] <racestoapril1> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> oscar: 'k, revision.  That sort of related, but don't bother.  Right here's where you want to be.
[10:05] <racestoapril1> i have the ubuntu cd in
[10:06] <racestoapril1> but it's 5.04
[10:06] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: don't paste
[10:06] <racestoapril1> should i use a different command
[10:06] <NoUse> racestoapril1 you missed a step
[10:06] <racestoapril1> what version of gstreamer is for mp3's and 5.04
[10:06] <racestoapril1> i did?
[10:06] <rukuartic> rajeev: sudo gst-register maybe? It tells you to do that :P
[10:06] <NoUse> racestoapril1 must have, otherwise it woudl work
[10:06] <jared_> application>Accessories> Terminal        then type "sudo gst-register"
[10:06] <rajeev> jared_, can u tell me how to run gst-register
[10:06] <jared_> rajeev^
[10:07] <NoUse> racestoapril1 can you upgrade to breezy?
[10:07] <racestoapril1> i need the cd
[10:07] <racestoapril1> i've ordered one
[10:07] <Syco54645> can anyone tell me where i can get dvd+rw-tool 6.1 for ubuntu?  nothing i am finding is working right for k3b and it is rather annoying
[10:07] <NoUse> racestoapril1 no you don't
[10:07] <racestoapril1> my internet is too slow
[10:07] <NoUse> !tell racestoapril1 about upgrade
[10:07] <NoUse> racestoapril1 ah
[10:07] <wardi> I'm having problems printing from Firefox (the queue just stops, I need to manually reset the printer), but other programs (xpdf, openoffice) can print just fine.. Same effect with both a Brother Laser printer and an HP Inkjet.  Anyone have any ideas?
[10:07] <roryy> he probably just needs to add the universe repository
[10:07] <oscar> how do i mount a usb flash drive?
[10:08] <NoUse> racestoapril1 try 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad'
[10:08] <rukuartic> wardi: Quick/ugly fix, copy to office, paste there.
[10:08] <kbrooks> racestoapril1: and you cant uypgrade to the new release FROM hoary
[10:08] <rajeev> rukuartic, its says sudo: gst-register: command not found
[10:08] <wardi> rukuartic: that's what I'm doing
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> oscar: Usually you just need to plug it in.  It will mount in /media.
[10:08] <racestoapril1> just tired
[10:08] <racestoapril1> it
[10:08] <racestoapril1> tried*
[10:08] <racestoapril1> i get this
[10:08] <rukuartic> !enter
[10:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:08] <ephesius> does anyone know a good, free web host that i could install drupal on
[10:08] <NoUse> racestoapril1 don't paste
[10:08] <rukuartic> ephesius: Your own computer
[10:09] <ephesius> i used to do that but my electric bill is incredibly high
[10:09] <oscar> tonyyarusso: i tried and i thought it mounted sda but i can find anything under /media or /mnt
[10:09] <rukuartic> ephesius: Is drupal a PHP/MySQL thing? You could try freepgs.com, they give php and mysql
[10:09] <Manika> !tell racestoapril1 about enter
[10:09] <ephesius> yea its php/mysql
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> oscar: Do you see it in /dev?
[10:10] <rajeev> rukuartic, its says that sudo gst-register command not found
[10:10] <gpo> hi all
[10:10] <gpo> can anyone help me with xgl ?
[10:10] <NoUse> !tell gpo about xgl
[10:10] <cubikdice> gpo, did you ask the question?
[10:11] <aLd> would someone help with syncing a windows ce device with ubuntu
[10:11] <cubikdice> !justask
[10:11] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[10:11] <Newbify2> !tell Newbify2 about xgl
[10:11] <Newbify2> :)
[10:11] <ephesius> rukuartic: the web page you gave me doesnt seem to offer free hosting
[10:11] <oscar> tonyyarusso: i see /sda and /sda1
[10:11] <cubikdice> !tell cubikdice about windows
[10:11] <cubikdice> :)
[10:11] <sibblegp> hey guys
[10:11] <cubikdice> hi
[10:11] <rajeev> rukuartic, r u there plz tell me what to go?? next
[10:12] <dli> can I install grub to the boot sector of a windows partition (with windows installed) ?
[10:12] <sibblegp> for some reason, Azureus isn't connecting to any hosts......it's just sitting there not doing anything even though it says there are plenty of hosts in the swarm and that everything is fine.  Even after it sits for a few hours, it doesn't connect.  Any suggestions?
[10:12] <rajeev> jared_, plz tell me what to do next??
[10:12] <sibblegp> it only happens on this Ubuntu computer :(
[10:12] <soundray> dli: you can, but don't expect Windows to work after that.
[10:12] <Warbo> How would I COMPLETLEY reinstall something? Every file and config? (That is reinstall, NOT purge/install)
[10:13] <gpo> i installed xgl but i don't have kde borders anymore, even if i run gnome-window-decorator
[10:13] <cubikdice> sibblegp, did you make sure that the port was open?
[10:13] <dli> soundray, how to get windows work with grub on it? :(
[10:13] <racestoapril1> how large are the windows codecs
[10:13] <Warbo> gpo: kde-window-decorator?
[10:13] <gpo> it doesn't work
[10:13] <sibblegp> cubikdice, it says that everything was configured correctly.  You usually don't need to open any for Azureus to work properly.......how would I check anyways?
[10:13] <NoUse> gpo ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> oscar: All right, well it's odd that it didn't mount automatically in /media, but you can try mounting it manually.  Usually USB drives will be Fat32 partitions (vfat).  'man mount' for more info.  (If it did mount in /media it would be by drive label, not sda, btw)
[10:13] <Warbo> gpo: Have you installed compiz-kde package?
[10:13] <gpo> warbo : yes
[10:14] <Manika> !tell Manika about amarok
[10:14] <cubikdice> sibblegp, yes you usually do. Click on tools > NAT / Firewall Test
[10:14] <chavo> Warbo, apt-get install --reinstall
[10:14] <racestoapril1> ok
[10:14] <NoUse> racestoapril1 I think like 12-17MB
[10:15] <cubikdice> sibblegp, then click test beside the port number
[10:15] <Warbo> chavo: That doesn't completely reinstall
[10:15] <sibblegp> cubikdice, it says its working fine
[10:15] <thetallest> is there a channel for total newbie ubuntu people?
[10:15] <racestoapril1> i have the windows codecs installed, but i still need the mp3, is there a site where i can get the codecs, like i got the windows codecs?
[10:15] <rajeev> i m not getting audio on my system its says some error msg as "Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register" SO can any one tell me what to do.. plz reply also while opening Multimedia system selector i got the same msg.. so ant one tell me what to do plz
[10:15] <cubikdice> sibblegp, what port number is it?
[10:15] <bimberi> thetallest: this is it :)
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> thetallest: Here's fine.
[10:15] <thetallest> ok
[10:15] <NoUse> racestoapril1 no, mp3 support is in synaptic, you just have to add the right repos
[10:15] <sibblegp> cubikdice, 54972
[10:16] <rajeev> can any one tell me abt how to run the gst-register??
[10:16] <racestoapril1> ok, i guess that's the best i can do. i really do not understand why the commands are not making the codecs load off the cd
[10:17] <NoUse> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:17] <NoUse> racestoapril1 ^^
[10:17] <NoUse> !tell racestoapril1 about pastebin
[10:17] <rajeev> i m not getting audio on my system its says some error msg as "Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register" SO can any one tell me what to do.. plz reply also while opening Multimedia system selector i got the same msg.. so ant one tell me what to do plz
[10:17] <Manika> how can I update my amarok 1.3 to 1.4?
[10:17] <Warbo> What is the dpkg option to reinstall everything from a package (binaries, configs and everything)? [BTW, It isn't in the manual]
[10:17] <bimberi> rajeev: open a terminal and type:  gst-register-0.8
[10:18] <cubikdice> sibblegp, well thast wierd
[10:18] <sibblegp> cubikdice, I know!  I don't know what to do or think.  I've tried reinstalling and such
[10:19] <sybariten> ok i have a problem with a program that wont install over apt ... and even if this may boil down to me having a too old PPC version, i still dont understand why it cant get a library in. The tool seems to rely on libgda2-common, but when i try to install that apt says "its already the latest version"
[10:19] <NoUse> !tell Manika about amarok
[10:19] <sybariten> is this a common apt problem?
[10:19] <adambrady> NoUse I tried reinstalling the cdrecord package again but I still get the same error and a blank disc at the end of recording
[10:19] <sybariten> i mean, when it seems as you need a package, but it also seems as you have it
[10:19] <racestoapril1> gosh, NoUse, i don't know how to get that
[10:20] <luishhc> i want to automount windows when start ubuntu, what i do?
[10:20] <icheyne> !tell icheyne about amarok
[10:20] <bimberi> Warbo: apt-get has one:   apt-get install --reinstall somepackage    - that won't do configs though.  I think you have to purge and reinstall
[10:20] <racestoapril1> how do i get the/etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <synd`> Where is the list of supported wireless cards for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <Manika> NoUse: I checked that already... but can't do it :S
[10:21] <bimberi> sybariten: the program probabaly wants a later version which isn't currently available in your repositories
[10:21] <Warbo> bimberi: That is exactly what I cannot do. The --reinstall option is useless to me. I know there is an option to do this with dpkg as I've done it once before, but I forgot it
[10:21] <NoUse> Manika why not?
[10:21] <rajeev> bimberi, thnx but after runnin the gst-register when i open my volume control then it says that"No volume control elements and/or devices found" so what to do next?
[10:21] <Cwiiis[laptop] > Hey - anyone else getting huge icons in Ubuntu dapper at the moment? And any way to fix it?
[10:21] <sybariten> bimberi: but apt says libgda2-common is already the latest version? (on my machine)
[10:21] <Entity> Is there any repo with vmplayer in it?
[10:21] <tanek> anyone else had problems with WD Mybook usb HDD?
[10:22] <Manika> NoUse: I don't know what to do with that info... and apt-get tells I got the latest version already, but I don't :P
[10:22] <|neo> can some one tellme how to i make the grup aperence difrent?!
[10:22] <icheyne> n
[10:22] <bimberi> Warbo: kk, idk sorry :|
[10:22] <synd`> Where is the list of supported wireless cards for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <NoUse> Manika breezy or dapper?
[10:22] <Manika> NoUse, breezy
[10:22] <NoUse> icheyne the bot has tibits
[10:22] <adambrady> When I try and burn a CD it goes through the motions but I end up with a blank disc. What should I do?
[10:22] <disinterested_pe> can anyone tell me y sudo deb isnt found in terminal?
[10:22] <NoUse> !tell icheyne about ubotu
[10:23] <NoUse> Manika can't install 1.4 in breezy
[10:23] <ranpha> he, i gota problem with samba. i got everthing on yes, writeable, public, browseable and avaible on yes..but i can't copy a file to the network share. What am i doing wrong?
[10:23] <NoUse> Manika needs dapper
[10:23] <bimberi> rajeev: sounds like a separate issue, was your sound card recognised: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:23] <phreeza> !tell phreeza about ubotu
[10:23] <s|k> I just did sudo apt-get remove linux*, xserver, gnome, etc just playing around
[10:23] <s|k> how do I undo that?
[10:24] <Manika> NoUse: ok, then I'll have to wait...
[10:24] <Manika> NoUse: thx anyway!
[10:24] <NoUse> s|k sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <s|k> ok thanks
[10:24] <bimberi> sybariten: exactly, so what's the exact command error message when you try to install your program (use pastebin)
[10:24] <wardi> I'm having problems printing from Firefox (the queue just stops, I need to manually reset the printer), but other programs (xpdf, openoffice) can print just fine.. Same effect with both a Brother Laser printer and an HP Inkjet.  Anyone have any ideas?  Possibly related: when I print to PS from mozilla and run ps2pdf on that it says "Error: Unknown font tag 'R42'" many many times.
[10:26] <wardi> Perhaps my mozilla is using bad fonts?
[10:26] <bimberi> wardi: do other web pages print ok?
[10:27] <wardi> bimberi: nothing prints from mozilla
[10:27] <adambrady> anyone have any idea on what I can do to make my CD/DVD Burner work?
[10:27] <bimberi> wardi: well that's the "crappy font demanded by webpage" theory blown then :/
[10:27] <ranpha> he, i gota problem with samba. i got everthing on yes, writeable, public, browseable and avaible on yes..but i can't copy a file to the network share. What am i doing wrong?
[10:28] <wardi> ranpha: fmask=777 ?
[10:29] <ranpha> Wardi Fmask is what???...quiet new to this
[10:29] <sybariten> bimberi: http://pastebin.ca/58461   Read from the top and down (as is usual in the western countries)
[10:29] <wardi> ranpha: It's an option you can pass with -o when you mount the share.  It says "let all users write to this share".  The default is to only allow root
[10:30] <bimberi> sybariten: ok, looking, thanks for the tip :)
[10:30] <ranpha> Wardi where can i put this option on the samba server (the computer where the shares are)
[10:32] <rajeev> bimberi, its says " cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[10:32] <rajeev> " so what to do next
[10:32] <adambrady> One more time, My Liteon DVD burner will not burn discs. It goes through the motions no matter what I use (serpentine,gnomebaker,or K3B) but I always end up with a blank disc,
[10:32] <adambrady> Any ideas?
[10:33] <Kyral_Laptop> adambrady: try graveman?
[10:33] <bimberi> sybariten: pastebin your sources.list and the output from 'apt-cache policy libgda2-common'
[10:33] <wardi> ranpha: you have to do it when you mount on the client not on the server
[10:33] <adambrady> Kyral_Laptop you think that it will work when all others have failed?
[10:33] <Kyral_Laptop> adambrady: did for me
[10:33] <NoUse> adambrady I really don't know what could be causing this, I would try dapper when it comes out in June
[10:34] <adambrady> Kyral_Laptop I will give it a try.
[10:34] <sybariten> bimberi: "policy" ? Uh ok whatever you say ....
[10:34] <adambrady> NoUse thanks for your help anyway.
[10:34] <crimsun> rajeev: what's the issue?
[10:34] <ranpha> Wardi i do not mount the shares...i use then network browser.....but i think i know what i need smb4k
[10:34] <bimberi> rajeev: you are in excellent hands now :)
[10:34] <wardi> ranpha: you can add it to fstab like this: //192.168.0.1/pub   /mnt/pub   smbfs   fmask=777,defaults,password=    0    3
[10:35] <bimberi> sybariten: i am trying to help here.  have i annoyed you in some way?
[10:35] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me about spca5xx install?
[10:36] <oprime> If I'm using the amd64 distro of Breezy, how do I get wine to install? Synaptic and apt-get are pointing to a directory that doesn't exist at wine. (ala amd64--- error "Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_breezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[10:36] <rajeev> crimsun, i didnt get the sound on my machine now while opening Volume control its says  that "No volume control elements and/or devices found."
[10:36] <crimsun> rajeev: please pastebin the output from the following command: ``lspci -v && lspci -nv''
[10:36] <sybariten> bimberi: no, its just that apt-cache surprises me with its many weird options
[10:36] <julian> i need hep: i like to change the default desktop manager, but i don't know how, anyone can help me?
[10:37] <rajeev> crimsun, ok
[10:37] <bimberi> sybariten: ah, kk :)
[10:37] <ranpha> warid can't i use samba like network neighboorhoud like windows?
[10:37] <synd`> Where is the list of supported wireless cards for Ubuntu?
[10:37] <bimberi> !wireless
[10:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:37] <icheyne> synd`, try the wiki
[10:37] <phreeza> ranpha, if you feel like experimenting check out fusesmb it does something like that
[10:37] <bimberi> synd`: ^^^^^ (first link)
[10:38] <synd`> Thanks, bimberi
[10:38] <bimberi> synd`: np :)
[10:38] <sybariten> bimberi: okay lets see, i put them in the same paste:   http://pastebin.ca/58466   the sources come first.
[10:38] <phreeza> it's not in apt-get though as far as i know, ranpha
[10:38] <adambrady> Kyral_Laptop LOL ok so I got Graveman and gave it a shot. 2 seconds after hitting the Write Tracks button I get a pop up that says Operation Failed
[10:38] <ranpha> phreeza: what do you mean with experimenting?
[10:38] <NoUse> oprime wine needs a chrooted environment to work in AMD64
[10:39] <NoUse> !tell oprime about chroot
[10:39] <rajeev> crimsun, here is my output crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14558
[10:39] <phreeza> ranpha: setting up beta software essentially, compiling sources, tec
[10:39] <phreeza> etc*
[10:40] <crimsun> rajeev: ok, sec
[10:40] <oprime> NoUse: Thanx, I'll try that out.
[10:40] <ranpha> phreeza: okay that a no no then.
[10:40] <Stormx2> Guys, is there like, some printer management tool? That can send jobs like cleaning rollers and stuff to the printer?
[10:40] <crimsun> rajeev: are you using breezy or dapper?
[10:40] <phreeza> ranpha: http://www.ricardis.tudelft.nl/~vincent/fusesmb/
[10:40] <Stormx2> I can't reboot damn this is a such a predicament
[10:41] <rajeev> crimsun, i m using breezy
[10:41] <bthornton> People using wireless at home: have any of you opted to connect to your home network via VPN (instead of using WPA/WEP)?  (feel free to forward me to the correct channel if this is irrelevant here)
[10:41] <phreeza> ranpha: you'll need the fuse headers, etc, they are in apt i think
[10:42] <crimsun> rajeev: please try dapper; your audio chipset is supported much better
[10:42] <captine> bthornton: if you get a response, please let me know.  am interested in vpn :)
[10:42] <rajeev> crimsun: dapper is not available in INDIA so from where i can get that..
[10:43] <erik_m> bthornton : hi what do you mean by vpn (i know what vpn is:D ) but how you intend it configured ?
[10:43] <bimberi> sybariten: that is wierd, have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[10:43] <carlos_> hello something work with openwrt?
[10:43] <exmethix> jemand in deutsch hier?
[10:44] <bw_hb> exmethix, #ubuntu-de
[10:44] <exmethix> thx
[10:44] <lukketto> vpn: virtual private network
[10:44] <crimsun> rajeev: the release candidate (RC) for dapper will be available shortly
[10:44] <crimsun> rajeev: you can download that soon
[10:44] <sybariten> bimberi: yeah, i believe i did that just after commenting out some stuff in the sources 15 minutes ago ... but i could try again
[10:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> how do you access your shared network folders for a specific computer??
[10:44] <bthornton> erik_m: well, for instance, at my school we have unrestricted wireless access--anybody can connect to any WAP on campus and get an IP.  But, in order to do anything useful (i.e. connect to the Internet), you must authenticate against and open a VPN.  Thus, the connection is encrypted and secure, but there is no need for hardware-level WPA/WEP.
[10:45] <dou213> hey guys, how can i set in mirc that nobody can see my info? wasn't it something with /mode +x?
[10:45] <sybariten> bimberi: btw someone said that "ubuntu0.1" looked fishy
[10:46] <rajeev> crimsun: there is no any way to get the sound in breezy? :(
[10:46] <bthornton> I hear that WEP/WPA is very easy to break, and plus I don't want to deal with driver-support for WEP/WPA in Linux, so that's why I'd like to try the VPN route.
[10:46] <crimsun> rajeev: yes, but you'll have to download quite a bit of source code.
[10:46] <julian> how i do to change gdm to kdm
[10:46] <darius_> bthornton: so what is the question?
[10:46] <lukketto> bthor: use mac-address
[10:46] <erik_m> bthornton : ok i know what you mean :D . ive done this on windows using kerio software but cant say i pursude it on linux. on windows it was good but for where i live (middle of nowhere) it was overkill
[10:47] <bthornton> lukketto: That doesn't do anything for data in-transit.
[10:47] <bimberi> sybariten: no that's ok, although i thought it was supposed to be ubuntu1, ubuntu2 ...
[10:47] <darius_> bthornton: OpenVPN has support for both Windows and Linux clients
[10:47] <rajeev> crimsun: yes i m ready to do that.. plz tell me what to do?
[10:47] <phreeza> ranpha:its actually quite neat i have it installed but i rarely use it. it lets you treat smb environment just like ordinary filesystem
[10:48] <darius_> bthornton: protection from replay attacks, etc
[10:48] <phreeza> even better than windows network neighborhood
[10:48] <bthornton> darius_: Ok I'll look that up; thanks
[10:48] <I_Eat_Plastic> how do you access your shared network folders for a specific computer??
[10:48] <bimberi> julian: if kdm is already installed - 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'  should let you choose it as the default
[10:49] <Warbo> Well, Google is giving me nothing. Does anyone know how to do the equivalent of --purge and install with a single dpkg -i option? I need to completlely reinstall mkinitramfs, but I can't remove it then reinstall (for obvious reasons)
[10:50] <nf4> Hello I was wondering if it was possible  to use dvdrip under amd64 version of ubuntu
[10:50] <sybariten> bimberi: ok ....
[10:50] <Ratzilla> hey, how do i change my computer name?
[10:51] <Warbo> Ratzilla: hostname
[10:51] <crimsun> rajeev: I had instruction messaged to you.
[10:51] <sybariten> bimberi: but is the weird thing that it doesnt want to install libgda2-common (or that it complains that it needs it, when at the same time it says it has it) .... or did you see anything else that was weird too ?
[10:51] <crimsun> instructions^
[10:52] <xerophyte> Does anybody here use phpldapadmin, i am not able to login as admin to it , but i can able to login with other ldap admin tools .. does anybody know if i have to change anything to the phpldapadmin with Ubuntu
[10:52] <Ratzilla> Warbo: thanks
[10:53] <bimberi> sybariten: yes, the wierd thing is that it says it says "Depends: libgda2-common (>= 1.1.99-1ubuntu0.1)" and yet you have "1.2.1-2ubuntu2~hoary1" installed
[10:53] <rajeev> crimsun: i got that msg, hey dude can i have ur email id so that if i had some problem then i can mail u please
[10:54] <Warbo> I'll go an ask on #Debian as it is a dpkg question
[10:54] <crimsun> rajeev: my information is on launchpad.
[10:54] <Vixus> 5 hours.
[10:54] <Vixus> The dapper livecd has taken 5 hours and still hasn't shown anything on my screen.
[10:54] <crimsun> rajeev: please don't e-mail me personally for support, since I'm very busy the next couple weeks. Try this channel first.
[10:54] <adambrady> ack I get the same exact issue with Graveman. And NoUse I checked and my cdrecord is in /usr/bin where it is supposed to be.
[10:54] <Vixus> I knew my laptop was slow, but it has loaded other livecds in a couple of seconds
[10:54] <julian> bimberi: and if i want a no-default who would be?
[10:55] <Vixus> Any idea why?
[10:55] <mjcs> lol Vixus. that doesnt sound so good
[10:55] <rajeev> crimsun: ok sir thnx for ur help..
[10:55] <bimberi> julian: no default? - you mean for it to boot to a text login?
[10:55] <Vixus> mjcs: I don't see why it should have taken so long. It had reached the splashscreen before I left.
[10:56] <Vixus> mjcs: Now there's just a mouse cursor that has really delayed responses.
[10:56] <mjcs> maybe it loaded all up when you were gone then the screensaver activated and it crashed!
[10:56] <julian> bimberi: a choose for both
[10:56] <Vixus> mjcs: That's probably it-- but why is this livecd so resource intensive?
[10:56] <bostonlow> IS ther a WINE IRC channel I can ask a wine-related question in?
[10:56] <Vixus> bostonlow: #wine
[10:57] <bostonlow> It's empty?
[10:57] <Vixus> ##wine?
[10:57] <bostonlow> Tried that, too
[10:57] <mjcs> Vixus: Ubuntu isn't designed for low resources, Xubuntu is though
[10:57] <bostonlow> There's one person in ##wine
[10:57] <Vixus> bostonlow: #winehq actually
[10:57] <bimberi> julian: no, you need to choose one, but either gdm or kdm will let you log into Gnome or KDE (from the Session menu)
[10:57] <bostonlow> Ahh, thanks Vikus!
[10:57] <icheyne> I want to find out what interface my hard drive uses - is there a linux command I can use?
[10:58] <Vixus> Oh forget this.
[10:58] <rajeev> crimsun: after that wat i have to do?
[10:58] <crimsun> rajeev: reboot.
[10:58] <Vixus> Why is Dapper slow?!
[10:58] <redloff_> hi, is Draper Drake beta2 64bit version quite stable at present?
[10:58] <crimsun> rajeev: or, if you're lucky, just log out and back into gnome.
[10:58] <julian> bimberi: ok, thanks
[10:58] <icheyne> ok is there a good system information linux command?
[10:58] <redloff_> dapper drake, I mean
[10:59] <bimberi> julian: yw :)
[10:59] <rajeev> crimsun: can i get the sound after that?? :)
[10:59] <phreeza> icheyne:what type of info?
[10:59] <redloff_> icheyne, lspci, lshw, cat /proc/cpuinfo, cat /proc/meminfo
[10:59] <icheyne> just general info about my hardware
[10:59] <dogafro> i'm trying to set up ac3 dolby digital decoding via spdif input (5.1 analog speaker out) on a sb live 5.1 card - it seems to be downmixing to 2.0...
[11:00] <icheyne> like what kind of graphics card etc
[11:00] <redloff_> lspci
[11:00] <phreeza> ok then lsoci
[11:00] <icheyne> redloff_, I'll try them, thanks
[11:00] <phreeza> lspci
[11:00] <icheyne> cheers
[11:00] <icheyne> :)
[11:00] <Vixus> Will unchecking Quick Boot on my Thinkpad help?
[11:01] <crimsun> rajeev: you should be able to.
[11:03] <mwe> Vixus: dapper works fine on tp x40 here
[11:03] <mathieu__> what is the name of hte take snapshot command in the default ubuntu dapper gnome menus ?
[11:03] <Vixus> mwe: Does Pentium 2 ring a bell? ;\
[11:03] <Stargazers> Well, I have a very stupid question but where is the "kernel" file? I need that to test copy it to one dir to try to boot linux over NFS drive with PXE but I don't know what is the kernel file...
[11:04] <Vixus> mwe: It's slightly faster now with quick boot disabled
[11:04] <mwe> Vixus: I see
[11:04] <aprominax> ok
[11:05] <mwe> Vixus: I'd think a P2 would be plenty fast for ubuntu provided there are no other bottle necks like too little RAM
[11:05] <Vixus> mwe: How much ram does a 600E have?
[11:05] <meheren> http://pastebin.com/733814 ~ my x server config file. why won't it work??? anyone see anything suspicious/wrong in it???
[11:05] <T`> guys i'm getting flooded with this Falling back to standard locale ("C") by perl in dchroot
[11:05] <sola6662> yo all
[11:05] <T`> anyone know how to fix this?
[11:05] <aprominax> no.. :S
[11:05] <Blissex> meheren: look at the log, not the config file, it will tel you... /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:05] <mwe> Vixus: I don't know. free in a terminal should show it
[11:06] <meheren> ok
[11:06] <Vixus> mwe: If I ever get there. :)
[11:06] <mwe> Vixus: heh. I don't know
[11:06] <sola6662> anyone know a safe way to get XGL running?
[11:06] <aprominax> .. can somebody help me with fixing the sun jre 1.5.0_06..?
[11:06] <mwe> !xgl
[11:06] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:07] <hollywoodb> aprominax: fixing what exactly
[11:07] <sola6662> oh thx
[11:07] <amphi> Vixus: depends - linux-laptop.net might give you a clue, as might the bios
[11:07] <aprominax> it works fine in the browser.. but i cant start it normally, to use for game server..:S
[11:07] <Stargazers> Is vmlinuz file the "kernel" file? (I meant that wherethat links goes to...)?
[11:07] <mwe> Stargazers: yes
[11:07] <Vixus> amphi: Yeah, I checked it out. It looks like it can load it, but it's just ever so slow. Maybe that's because I have hardly any HDD space and it's accessing from CD?
[11:08] <mwe> Stargazers: /boot/vmlinuz
[11:08] <Stargazers> mwe: Great, thanks
[11:08] <Stargazers> Then I found right file :)
[11:08] <hollywoodb> aprominax: you mean java web start or a .jar file ?
[11:08] <Vixus> amphi: I'll be wiping the HDD and doing a clean install if I can get my USB wifi stick to work.
[11:08] <mwe> Stargazers: waht are you trying to do?
[11:08] <aprominax> hollywoodb: jar
[11:08] <sola6662> the last time i tried to get XGL it messed me up bad i used some guys hackish guild on the forums
[11:08] <hollywoodb> aprominax: 'java -jar <jarfile>' *should* work
[11:09] <sybariten> bimberi: OK ... thanks for taking a look at it!
[11:09] <aprominax> hollywoodb: ill try again..
[11:09] <cubikdice> Everyone with nVidia cards go get the new drivers! :D http://nvidia.com/
[11:09] <disinterested_pe> ok how do i move a file to a dofferent directory
[11:09] <cubikdice> Release 1.0-8762
[11:09] <disinterested_pe> different
[11:09] <hollywoodb> cubikdice: you should use packaged drivers or a howto, not the binaries direct from nvidia
[11:09] <mwe> disinterested_pe: mv
[11:10] <meheren> http://pastebin.com/733814 ~my Xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/733830 ~my Xorg .log file... im confused... why won't X work???
[11:10] <cubikdice> hollywoodb, uh...there oooold
[11:10] <disinterested_pe> in a terminal?
[11:10] <jhenn> My X bleeds.  Anyone know why?
[11:10] <_nicolas> Is there a way to burn DVDs using burnfree which doesn't require cdrecord-prodvd?
[11:10] <cubikdice> hollywoodb, installed them flawlessly
[11:10] <mwe> disinterested_pe: mv /foo/bar/blah /foo/baz/ in a term, yes
[11:10] <Warbo> hollywood: I walked cubikdice through installing binary drivers a few hours ago so he could use composite with GLX
[11:11] <cubikdice> indeed. but i just noticed there a new version just released :P
[11:11] <Warbo> cubikdice: I don't recommend using the nvidia.com drivers, and neither should you
[11:11] <cubikdice> oh?
[11:11] <disinterested_pe> im trying to install fire fox 1.5.0.3 tar bz
[11:11] <Warbo> cubikdice: Your situation needed them
[11:11] <meheren>  http://pastebin.com/733814 ~my Xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/733830 ~my Xorg .log file... im confused... why won't X work??? it says it's not configured properely...?
[11:11] <cubikdice> basicly just letting people who might be interested know
[11:11] <hollywoodb> there are howtos in the forums on properly installing latest drivers, generally the binaries straight from nvidia are a bad idea
[11:12] <mwe> disinterested_pe: read the firefoxnewversion wiki
[11:12] <mwe> !tell disinterested_pe about ff1.5
[11:12] <Schalken> Hi!
[11:13] <trpr42> hollywood: because of user error right? better to recommend a newbie friendly solution than set someone up for a hassle
[11:13] <Schalken> ???
[11:13] <mwe> !!!
[11:13] <ubotu> mwe: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:13] <Vixus> We have mouse movement!
[11:14] <meheren>  http://pastebin.com/733814 ~my Xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/733830 ~my Xorg .log file can anyone tell me what's wrong..?
[11:14] <hollywoodb> trpr42: no, they basically package their own versions of X libs & overwrite them
[11:14] <ndlovu> hi all. Here's the situation: I have a computer with no hard drive booted with the live cd. It has a dvd writer and I would like to write something off the network. Can this work?
[11:14] <ndlovu> or will it need a hard drive to copy stuff to locally?
[11:14] <trpr42> hollywood: there is a better way then? let the package managers mangle it into something friendly? the replacement is occuring when you compile your own drivers?
[11:15] <trpr42> hollywood: or only when you use one of their precompiled drivers
[11:15] <meheren> http://pastebin.com/733814 ~my Xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/733830 ~my Xorg .log file can anyone tell me what's wrong..?
[11:15] <hollywoodb> trpr42: yep, that's the reason there's an nvidia-glx package instead of a howto that says go to nvidia.com
[11:15] <crazy_penguin> night all! pleasent dreams!
[11:16] <hollywoodb> trpr42: there's a long forum thread on it, but I don't have a browser handy right now to find it
[11:16] <aprominax> hollywoodb: java: i get errors :S : exception in tread " main" java.lang.noclassdeffound..
[11:16] <trpr42> hollywood: i'll take your word for it.. i have just experienced nothing but trouble with the packages provided and have always had to go out and compile my own driver
[11:17] <Ratzilla> is suspend 2 part of ubuntu?
[11:17] <linchris> My computer hangs when I try to boot the 2.6.15-23 kernel that I got with depper.. :(
[11:17] <Flannel> linchris: #ubuntu+1
[11:17] <linchris> ubuntu+1? :)
[11:17] <hollywoodb> trpr42: usually it isn't a problem, and for some ppl nothing works better than nvidia.com's drivers
[11:17] <jonatan> ndlovu: can you maybe create a ramdisk ?
[11:17] <linchris> aha ic :P
[11:17] <Ratzilla> is dapper out officially? i cant find it
[11:17] <hollywoodb> trpr42: but if you run into a GLX bug using them you're kind of out of luck
[11:18] <Manika> Ratzilla: it'll be released in early June
[11:18] <meheren> http://pastebin.com/733814 ~my Xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/733830 ~my Xorg .log file can anyone tell me what's wrong..?
[11:18] <mjcs> Ratzilla: not officially
[11:18] <trpr42> hollywood: i am going to be more wary now after hearing all that business about replacing X libraries.
[11:18] <hollywoodb> aprominax: have you tried blackdown ? I've never had a problem with sun, if you're sure the jar file is fine
[11:18] <Ratzilla> oh okay, :) is it ever possible to upgrade from breezy -> dapper or would i have to uninstall/reinstall/
[11:18] <meheren> Ratzilla, do  apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:18] <mjcs> Ratzilla: you can just upgrade straight to dapper
[11:19] <Ratzilla> oooooooh awesome :)
[11:19] <meheren> of course run as root or use sudo
[11:19] <jonatan> Ratzilla: it will officially be released in june, but you can get the beta version and packages that are currently developed, you may want to try #ubuntu+1 for more information
[11:19] <mjcs> Ratzilla: but i'd recommend a fresh install from my experience
[11:19] <sloncho> hi. sudo / sudoers q: I have this: http://pastebin.com/733724. The idea is, that the firewall script can be executed by fwadmin members w/o password, and %wheel users can exec everything, but with passowrd. my user is member to both groups, and is required password even for the fw script. What is wrong, why I can not execute the fw script w/o password?
[11:19] <Vixus> Window Manager
[11:20] <Ratzilla> i guess ill wait till dapper comes out officially :) thanks
[11:20] <aprominax> hollywoodb: im 90% sure the jar works fine.. andi havn't tried blackdown
[11:20] <ndlovu> is there some way to use piping in a clever way so that I can write a dvd over the network without needing any local hard drive space?
[11:20] <jonatan> Ratzilla, heh, I tried Flight 7, it didn't quite like some of my hardware ( wireless card in particular ) so I'm waiting as well
[11:20] <trpr42> aprominax: you put it in your classpath? export CLASSPATH:/new/jar.jar:$CLASSPATH
[11:21] <ramvi> What's up with the new xgl/compiz update? It was yesterdays or todays... Xgl stoped working :( Have anyone else experienced problems?
[11:21] <trpr42> aprominax: an equals sign missing after that first CLASSPATH
[11:21] <ndlovu> jonatan: sorry, missed your comment. ramdisk would work, but doesn't that need lots of memory? I have way less memory than I need to write to dvd.
[11:21] <Ratzilla> jonatan: my wireless card didnt work either..but ive got it set up now..so ill just save the conf files :)
[11:22] <kane777> g'nite everybody...
[11:22] <meheren> http://pastebin.com/733814 ~my Xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/733830 ~my Xorg .log file can anyone tell me what's wrong..?
[11:22] <aprominax> trpr:.. no hadnt put it there :S,,
[11:23] <Bicou> Hello. I have 2 comps, both running VNC servers. On one comp I try to use vncviewer on localhost, but I can't get the thing to work... On the 2nd comp it works perfectly. Check the log: http://pastebin.com/733858
[11:23] <Bicou> what's the problem?
[11:23] <ubuntu> DBO: how's it going
[11:23] <dtrinh> :D
[11:24] <jonatan> Ratzilla: that may not work depending on what drivers you are using. If you are using ndiswrapper you will almost certainly have to set it up again
[11:24] <csibepapa> hy all
[11:25] <jonatan> ndlovu, not all burning software need a full iso on the harddrive, but they may or may not want to use it as a buffer
[11:25] <chowells> meheren: read the log file. "(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom   No such file or directory.
[11:25] <cubikdice> csibepapa, hi
[11:25] <andrejkw> Hey Guys
[11:25] <andrejkw> I have a problem
[11:25] <cubikdice> o?
[11:25] <cubikdice> well whats your problem?
[11:25] <chowells> meheren: comment out the section regarding the wacom
[11:26] <meheren> chowells, what does that mean?
[11:26] <andrejkw> Transfers between my Bluetooth phone and PC always freeze at a certain point.
[11:26] <andrejkw> I can't figure out whats wrong :(
[11:26] <andrejkw> Sometimes it freezes later and soemtimes right in the beginning.
[11:27] <jonatan> andrejkw, what are you using for the transfer ?
[11:27] <ndlovu> jonatan: the nautilus writer seems to want to have the full iso in memory at least before it starts writing. I'm not sure what other writers come with the live cd or if it's possible to "install" new software on the live cd?
[11:28] <andrejkw> jonathan: gnome-bluetooth
[11:28] <meheren> chowells, sooo any suggestions on how to fix it?
[11:28] <andrejkw> jonathan: I installed that package, and I am using the "Bluetooth File Sharing" option in the menu
[11:28] <chowells> meheren: comment out the sectin referencing /dev/wacom
[11:28] <chowells> section
[11:29] <Ratzilla> how do i get hibernation to work properly? i installed hibernate...but that didnt seem to do anything..
[11:29] <meheren> oh lol ok
[11:29] <meheren> on the .conf file?
[11:29] <jonatan> ndlovu, if it requires a full iso in temp you will probably not be able to use that software unless you have enough memory for a ramdisk. I dunno what software comes on the livecd.
[11:30] <rajeev> crimsun: i recieved an error msg after that..:(
[11:30] <jonatan> ndlovu: having said that, I think the nautilus burner is just a warpper for the command line software, so you might be able to get arround that by doing it manually
[11:30] <chamo> hello
[11:31] <rajeev> crimsun: ok i crossed my fingure n going to reboot my machine..
[11:31] <Bicou> no clue?!
[11:31] <kuitang> psh, y would u want to burn w/ nautilus?
[11:31] <Bicou> please :d
[11:31] <ndlovu> jonatan: that is an interesting point
[11:31] <sola6662> well brb i think i hope it setup right
[11:31] <kuitang> just use cdrecord from cmdline
[11:32] <mish4> any of you use conky?
[11:32] <Hentai_Jeff|stud> hey does anyone know of any good, cheap, linux compatable USB 2.0 cards?
[11:32] <mish4> i keep getting segmentation fault
[11:32] <jonatan> ndlovu, heck , for all I know nautilus might have some settings letting you do it ( I use KDE so I wouldn't know )
[11:32] <ndlovu> kuitang: any idea how I could use cdrecord to record something over the network?
[11:33] <ndlovu> jonatan: there don't seem to be too many options, but I'll check it out...
[11:34] <Hentai_Jeff> anyone?
[11:34] <Hentai_Jeff> beuler?
[11:34] <NoUse> !patience
[11:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:35] <chamo> NoUse: lol. good to remember ^^
[11:35] <Hentai_Jeff> I just couldn't resist the beuler joke :D
[11:35] <Vixus> Nautilus...
[11:35] <Vixus> Hentai_Jeff, eh? :P
[11:35] <tHeDvL> Hi
[11:36] <tHeDvL> anybody could help me , i want TFTP server program for ubuntu
[11:36] <tHeDvL> where can i get TFTP server?
[11:36] <Vixus> TFTP?
[11:36] <tHeDvL> yes
[11:36] <Blissex> tHeDvL: 'apt-cache search tftp'
[11:36] <tHeDvL> typing in terminal ?
[11:37] <meherenOS-X> thx that worked
[11:37] <mjcs> lol yes.
[11:37] <meherenOS-X> (meheren = meherenOS-X)
[11:37] <Hentai_Jeff> it means weird >.<
[11:37] <mjcs> am i the only one who thinks OS-X is ugly?
[11:37] <Hentai_Jeff> no you're not mjcs
[11:38] <Hentai_Jeff> it's not only ugly
[11:38] <Tuzlo> hey, need some opinions. CMS systems. Ease of use for users and administrator. Whats the best.
[11:38] <Vixus> mjcs: It's not as beautiful as my windows.
[11:38] <tHeDvL> tftpd-hpa - HPA's tftp server
[11:38] <mjcs> lol goodgood
[11:38] <meherenOS-X> hmm acually it didn't
[11:38] <Vixus> Tuzlo: How much functionality?
[11:38] <sola6662> yo all had a small error while logging into XGL session how do i get compiz?
[11:38] <meherenOS-X> it sasys that there is no screen found
[11:38] <tHeDvL> libcommons-net-java - internet protocol suite Java Library
[11:38] <Vixus> Blankness.
[11:38] <calamari> hi
[11:39] <tHeDvL> tftpd-hpa - HPA's tftp client
[11:39] <Tuzlo> Vixus: not too much, but ability to add on components would be nice
[11:39] <mjcs> tHeDvL: which one do you think it would be?!
[11:39] <tHeDvL> so Blissex what should i do?
[11:39] <Vixus> Tuzlo: Go for a blogging tool, like Wordpress then.
[11:39] <sola6662> #compiz
[11:39] <calamari> every once in a while I see a program appear on the taskbar, called "Launching HTTP Cache Cleaner".. what is this?  Is it a virus?
[11:39] <Vixus> haha
[11:39] <tHeDvL> mjcs: the first?
[11:39] <Tuzlo> Vixus: sucks, it needs php4 and I need 5 for something else
[11:39] <Vixus> uh
[11:39] <Blissex> tHeDvL: you install that package...
[11:39] <Some_Person> I cant boot the live cd
[11:39] <pau_> some one knows how set up a canon lpb 800 printer?
[11:39] <mjcs> tHeDvL: looks good to me, how about you?
[11:40] <sola6662> can some1 help me get compiz?
[11:40] <Some_Person> i get some error about X something can't display
[11:40] <Some_Person> (I am a noobie at linux)
[11:40] <Hentai_Jeff> a good deal of us here are
[11:40] <Vixus> Tuzlo: No idea
[11:40] <fightp1> Some_Person, maybe your graphics card is not supported
[11:40] <sola6662> welcome to the club some
[11:40] <Tuzlo> i should recheck that and see what requires 5
[11:41] <aprominax> does anybody know a good tutorial for unix commands?
[11:41] <Some_Person> hell
[11:41] <Some_Person> i really wanted ubunty
[11:41] <jhenn> does anyone know how to get composite running in ubuntu?
[11:41] <NoUse> !tell aprominax about cli
[11:41] <fightp1> Some_Person, what VGA card do you have?
[11:41] <pau_> to see tutorial use man or info
[11:41] <Blissex> jhenn: somebody does... But leave it alone.
[11:42] <calamari> aprominax: well, it's not spectacular, bu there is the Debian GNU/Linux Reference Card
[11:42] <Tuzlo> Vixus: is it easy to configure, I couldnt for the life of me figure out joolma's froint page
[11:42] <jhenn> Blissex: why?
[11:42] <Some_Person> GeForce 6100 Nvidia
[11:42] <about> this kubuntu looks real cool... it needs a little tweaking in the setting .. and it become extra stylish
[11:42] <fightp1> Some_Person, sound quite new
[11:42] <sola6662> man now i need a new card?
[11:42] <Vixus> Tuzlo: Wordpress is easy to configure I guess. It depends on how you want your site to look.
[11:43] <iNiku> hmm, anyone using an MD (RAID) device for root? what's wrong when a 2.6 kernel won't autodetect the RAID but a 2.4 kernel will?
[11:43] <calamari> aprominax: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard
[11:43] <Tuzlo> I dont think I need php 5 for what I have installed right now, I should switch to 4
[11:43] <Some_Person> I bought my computer a few days ago
[11:43] <NoUse> Some_Person try installing the nvidia drivers via the wiki page ubotu will send you
[11:43] <Blissex> iNiku: vaguely remembering that the MD stuff is a bit different between 2.4 and 2.6...
[11:43] <Some_Person> I got ubuntu to go with it
[11:43] <NoUse> !tell Some_Person about nvidia
[11:43] <mcdonaldsguy> I have a directory DIR and a symlink to it SYM... within gnome-terminal, if I'm in SYM and I open up a new tab, the new tab starts me off in DIR rather than SYM.  Is this a feature or a bug?
[11:43] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: feature.
[11:44] <fightp1> Some_person, did you ever get Ubuntu working on it? 5.10 maybe?
[11:44] <sola6662> can  anyone link me so i can get Compiz?
[11:44] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: why?
[11:44] <mish4> somoene help me with conky
[11:44] <mish4> please...
[11:44] <disinterested_pe> how do i install firefox 1.5.0.3?
[11:44] <iNiku> Blissex: an MD device created on 2.4 should be usable on 2.6 though, right?
[11:44] <Some_Person> i have the 5.10 pressed cd
[11:44] <iNiku> Blissex: and in fact it is, if I boot from an ubuntu live CD
[11:44] <Blissex> iNiku: yes, bit in a slightly different way IIRC.
[11:44] <pau_> it's possible use a canon lpb-800 in ubuntu?
[11:44] <disinterested_pe> im @ the wiki site and nothing works
[11:44] <NoUse> !tell disinterested_pe about ff1.5
[11:44] <iNiku> but for some reason the boot-time autodetection isn't working so it cannot mount root
[11:44] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: because you are really in 'DIR'...
[11:44] <jjazz> disinterested_pe: It's in dapper
[11:44] <NoUse> disinterested_pe don't be too specific or anything
[11:44] <fightp1> some_person, somebody is telling me that you might need to replace nv driver for vesa driver
[11:45] <green_earz> iNiku: did you build the kernel your self ?
[11:45] <mcdonaldsguy> but "pwd" in SYM doesn't return DIR...
[11:45] <Some_Person> I need to use the livecd to partition my HD.
[11:45] <GoLoGo> i am trying to install ubuntu on my primary master hardrive 20.2gb - windows currently tells me im only using up 8.6gb - i am using the amd64 install cd dapper drake - i keep trying to resize my only partition on my primary hardrive to 9gb - ubuntu keeps telling me it failed, that there is not enough freespace to install ubuntu - then i tried manually, and its not working - i need help
[11:45] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: try this: '(mkdir /tmp/a; ln -s /tmp/a /tmp/b; cd /tmp/b; pwd, dirs; /bin/pwd'
[11:45] <iNiku> green_earz: yes, with the required drivers compiled in
[11:45] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: try this: '(mkdir /tmp/a; ln -s /tmp/a /tmp/b; cd /tmp/b; pwd; dirs; /bin/pwd'
[11:45] <fightp1> some_person, if you can log in you can sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to replace that string
[11:45] <aprominax> calamari: Ty
[11:45] <Some_Person> once i partition i will install ubuntu
[11:46] <Some_Person> btw, i have no flippy drive
[11:46] <pau_> it's possible use a canon lpb-800 in ubuntu?
[11:46] <Hentai_Jeff> what's a flippy drive? :P
[11:46] <iNiku> green_earz: why, you have some ideas?
[11:46] <Blissex> pau_: try http://WWW.Linux-printing.org/
[11:46] <Some_Person> floppy drive
[11:46] <jonatan> GoLoGo: the think the Ubuntu Installer tells you what the minimum size you can make the partition should be
[11:47] <majd> hi, sound juicer isn't picking up an audio cd
[11:47] <jonatan> GoLoGo: what does it say ?
[11:47] <Hentai_Jeff> is it the next generation of floppy drives?
[11:47] <Some_Person> lol
[11:47] <green_earz> iNiku: when i built  my own i could not upgrade with out problems. when i used the installer the build the md raid, i had no problems in upgrading.
[11:47] <jonatan> GoLoGo: also, I'd really reccomend getting another harddrive for a dual boot system 20gb is not all that much
[11:47] <majd> ok....nvm it just did
[11:47] <Blissex> Hentai_Jeff: no, it is a drive that you have to turn over to read every other block... :-)
[11:47] <majd> wtf
[11:47] <Some_Person> so, any ways i can boot the livecd?
[11:48] <acke> Hey, im on a laptop. the mouse pad moves my mouse to fast.... I have tried to change the mouse speed in the mouse setting in preferences. but the speed is unaffeced. How can i change the mouse pad speed of the mouse????
[11:48] <Hentai_Jeff> lol
[11:48] <GoLoGo> when im using the guided partitioning option - tells me min. is 512mb max is 20.2gb - by default the size that it wanted to resize my partition to was 10.2gb - but even that failed
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: hm, I'm scratching my head as to why this behavior is a feature:
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> wchow@milhouse:~$ cd temp/SYM
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> wchow@milhouse:~/temp/SYM$ which pwd
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> /bin/pwd
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> wchow@milhouse:~/temp/SYM$ pwd
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> /home/wchow/temp/SYM
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> wchow@milhouse:~/temp/SYM$ /bin/pwd
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> /home/wchow/temp/DIR
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> wchow@milhouse:~/temp/SYM$
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> er
[11:48] <mcdonaldsguy> sorry about that paste
[11:48] <NoUse> mcdonaldsguy don't paste in here
[11:48] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: thats exactly how it should be...
[11:48] <iNiku> green_earz: hmm. well I still don't see why it won't recognize the MD device
[11:48] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: try this: 'type pwd; type /bin/pwd'
[11:49] <green_earz> iNiku: the problems where soming to do with i think called the init ram image ?
[11:49] <GoLoGo> anyone know the minimum size of space needed for an ubuntu installation using amd64 dapper drake?
[11:49] <mcdonaldsguy> ah I see
[11:49] <mcdonaldsguy> ok
[11:49] <acke> Hey, im on a laptop. the mouse pad moves my mouse to fast.... I have tried to change the mouse speed in the mouse setting in preferences. but the speed is unaffeced. How can i change the mouse pad speed of the mouse?
[11:49] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: and ask yourself: ''why do 'dirs' and 'pwd' always agree?'
[11:49] <jonatan> GoLoGo: hmmm, that seems odd. I used the manual partition tho, doesn't really know how the guided one works
[11:49] <GoLoGo> the manual partition doesnt work for me either, it does not do anything....
[11:49] <Rhine> When i run Rhythmbox it crashes and spits out this messag Attempt to remove filter function 0xb7f42721 user data 0x832c380, but no such filter has been added
[11:49] <kbrooks> how do I reinstall breezy?
[11:49] <micktm> Hi! can I use Gnome Pilot Settings to connect the mobile with IR?
[11:49] <green_earz> iNiku: the installer builds a kernel md friendly ram image
[11:50] <jonatan> what do you mean? Does it give you an error?
[11:50] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: now, to enlighten you further, do this: 'mkdir /tmp/x; cd /tmp/x; rmdir /tmp/x; pwd; /bin/pwd'
[11:50] <kbrooks> i have lots of personal stuff.
[11:50] <Rhine> Yes it gives me an error and it says "restart" "close" "inform devolopers"
[11:50] <nickrud> kbrooks, is home on another paritition?
[11:51] <kbrooks> nickrud: no :(
[11:51] <nickrud> kbrooks, cdwritin' time
[11:51] <jonatan> GoLoGo: what exactly do you mean when you say that the manual partitioner doesn't do anything? It normally doesn't try to repartition the disk until after you have told it all the changes you want and asked it to go to the next step.
[11:51] <iNiku> green_earz: but that shouldn't make a difference if I have the MD stuff compiled in? it does try to autodetect RAID arrays but doesn't find anything... and if I specify it on the kernel command line, it fails
[11:51] <kbrooks> nickrud: no cds here.
[11:51] <micktm> Which is the command I must use to acrivate the IRda?
[11:51] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: please also summarize your deductions here after the latest experiments...
[11:51] <iNiku> green_earz: do you happen to know what exactly 2.6 does differently when it comes to MD devices?
[11:51] <GoLoGo> alright im going to experiment some more... then i will come back with my findings, thanks jonatan
[11:52] <amphi> acke: xset perhaps
[11:52] <jonatan> GoLoGo: no problem, tho I'm not sure exactly what you meant
[11:52] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: I'm guessing that since dirs and pwd are shell builtins, it's returning what the shell thinks my current directory is
[11:52] <GoLoGo> well the thing is i choose the size i want manually for the hardrive, then i click on the apply changes on the bottom
[11:52] <GoLoGo> and it doesnt do anything
[11:52] <mcdonaldsguy> but that /bin/pwd does something else..
[11:52] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: thats mostly correct... But incomplete
[11:52] <Some_Person> how do i use nvidia drivers with livecd?
[11:52] <redguy> !update
[11:52] <jonatan> GoLoGo: what does it do when you try to proceed to the next step of teh installation ?
[11:52] <ubotu> redguy: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:53] <mcdonaldsguy> I've sort of seen behavior like that before with the emacs shell.. sometimes it gets confused as to which directory I'm actually in
[11:53] <Ratzilla> where is a good place to get free widescreen wallpaper?
[11:53] <GoLoGo> nothing
[11:53] <redguy> !upgrade
[11:53] <GoLoGo> just stays on the same screen
[11:53] <iNiku> in fact, it won't even boot if I specify one of the mirror halves directly as the root device
[11:53] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: but I don't know the mechanism that /bin/pwd is using
[11:53] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: the shell keeps a stack of directory _names_. But '/bin/pwd' will traverse the actual filesystem using '..' to find out what the current directory is,
[11:53] <jonatan> GoLoGo: ok that is /really/ weird
[11:53] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: ah I see
[11:53] <Some_Person> shutup, ubotu
[11:53] <kbrooks> hmm.
[11:53] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: try this: 'strace -e trace=file /bin/pwd'
[11:53] <Some_Person> now, how do i boot my livecd using my nvidia geforce 6100?
[11:54] <green_earz> iNiku : so you build the 2.4 and all ok but when you build 2.6 the kernel fails. do you use make oldconfig before the compile. there may be a small eliment missing
[11:54] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: but in the case of opening up a new tab... why would it be preferable to not use what the shell thinks?
[11:54] <jonatan> GoLoGo: anyway, if you just have 20Gb I'd suggest you get another HD.
[11:54] <Some_Person> Hello?
[11:54] <redguy> does update manager do anything more than sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:54] <Some_Person> How do i boot my livecd using my nvidia geforce 610
[11:54] <GoLoGo> i do have another hardrive its a 200gb
[11:54] <GoLoGo> but its a slave
[11:54] <jonatan> Oh
[11:54] <Some_Person> And I have no floppy drive
[11:54] <nickrud> kbrooks, maybe you could do something fancy with a live cd and rsizing & parititions, but I'd borrow a hard drive someone
[11:54] <ndlovu> okay, if I've "mounted" a network share with nautilus, is there some way to access it from the commandline?
[11:55] <Some_Person> any help?
[11:55] <ranpha> why does linux need to be root when you mount a network share or external USB disk???
[11:55] <Vixus> argh
[11:55] <GoLoGo> if i made space on my 200gb hd, would i still be able to do dual boot even if its slave?
[11:55] <Vixus> still no desktop
[11:55] <mjcs> Some_Person: put it in your CD drive and reboot
[11:55] <kbrooks> nickrud: i have 2 HDs
[11:55] <jonatan> GoLoGo: thats ok, the master/slave thing just deals with how the harddrives are connected, you should be able to boot from it anyway
[11:55] <gordonjcp> ranpha: because you've got it misconfigured?
[11:55] <mjcs> ranpha: it doesn't, set up fstab with user options
[11:55] <o3w1sh3z> hello
[11:55] <o3w1sh3z> i need help
[11:55] <GoLoGo> what do you suggest i do, if i think my partition table is damage for my 200gb hd?
[11:55] <nickrud> kbrooks, there you go then. make a partition on the second drive, move everything there you want to save. Then repartition the first & install
[11:55] <o3w1sh3z> does any one know how to burn A CD+G
[11:55] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: when you open a new tab presumably the shell initializes itself by using '..' traversal. The stack of directory names in one shell cannot be exported to another shell (or perhaps it can, but it is not done usually)
[11:56] <jonatan> GoLoGo: basically the master/slave configuration is there so that you can use a single cable for both harddrives.
[11:56] <green_earz> iNiku : by the way i run a 2.6 raid 1 from a installer build so the 2.6 is ok with md
[11:56] <Vixus> hmm 128MB ram
[11:56] <GoLoGo> on ubuntu it tells me i have 4, when i only have 2 on windows....
[11:56] <Some_Person> Hello?
[11:56] <Vixus> :D
[11:56] <Some_Person> Anyone here to help ME?
[11:56] <Vixus> Is 128MB not enough, then?
[11:56] <mjcs> lol Vixus!
[11:56] <Vixus> XD
[11:56] <ranpha> Misconfigured??? it's a standaard ubuntu install.  and how can i modified this?
[11:56] <soundray> Some_Person: not unless you ask a question
[11:56] <mjcs> To run the live CD?
[11:56] <sola6662> vixus u get my pm
[11:56] <kbrooks> nickrud: uh, never mind :P
[11:56] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: but the behavior when I start xterm is the opposite
[11:56] <Vixus> mjcs: yeah
[11:56] <jonatan> GoLoGo: that is probably the number of partitions, as opposed to the number of harddrives
[11:56] <Vixus> sola6662: No
[11:56] <mjcs> i think its the bare minimum
[11:56] <sola6662> oh
[11:56] <jonatan> GoLoGo: do you have separate partitions for swap maybe ?
[11:56] <carlos_> tred
[11:56] <mjcs> aka. not enough
[11:57] <sola6662> i wanted to know how can i get compiz?
[11:57] <iNiku> green_earz: I have a feeling it has something to do with the fact that this MD was created under 2.4
[11:57] <GoLoGo> i will just try once more....
[11:57] <GoLoGo> thanks
[11:57] <soundray> !tell sola6662 about xgl
[11:57] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: depends on which mode the shell is in when it starts, and how it is invoked.
[11:57] <Vixus> mjcs: Is it enough to run Ubuntu natively then?
[11:57] <jjazz> sola6662: It's in dapper
[11:57] <sola6662> hmmm
[11:57] <sarah> 128mb is enough ram to run.. but ram is cheap.. 256 is better
[11:57] <mjcs> Vixus: should be, you might want to look at Xubuntu if you want a decent performance though
[11:57] <Vixus> I've got a laptop
[11:58] <jjazz> sola6662: dapper universe, to be more specific
[11:58] <sola6662> so in order to get compiz i need to get dapper right?
[11:58] <Vixus> mjcs: I just want a good OS for my laptop, I've got an old clogged copy of windows 2000.
[11:58] <Archville> sola6662: or update from breezy to dapper
[11:58] <mjcs> I have 512mb ram chips for a laptop spare..
[11:58] <soundray> sola6662: anything else would be a pain
[11:58] <jjazz> sola6662: No, you just need that one package.
[11:58] <sola6662> oh i seen
[11:58] <nickrud> Vixus, you might like xubuntu better, it has a smaller footprint
[11:59] <mjcs> Vixus: have a look at xubuntu then, www.xubuntu.org its just ubuntu with xfce
[11:59] <floydwil1e> how to upgrade from breezy to dapper please splain
[11:59] <Vixus> Maybe I should just buy a new laptop. :P
[11:59] <mjcs> lol or that!
[11:59] <soundray> !tell floydwil1e about upgrade
[11:59] <kuitang> ya, they'll hav a ubuntu for every wm
[11:59] <jjazz> sola6662: Happily, I don't think it has any dapper depends, so you can just dload the deb and then dpkg -i it.
[11:59] <floydwil1e> I look here: wiki.ubuntu.com/Dapperupgrades doesn't make sense
[11:59] <mjcs> kuitang: and if they don't, you can just build it yourself :)
[12:00] <jjazz> floydwil1e: Add dapper repositories and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <sola6662> jjazz sorry for the noobish but whats the deb?
[12:00] <soundray> jjazz: why are you saying this? You can't sensibly put compiz on breezy without major hassle
[12:00] <soundray> floydwil1e: read the message from ubotu
[12:00] <jjazz> soundray: I'm just talking about installing the package.
[12:01] <soundray> sola6662: don't listen to jjazz. You can probably install compiz, but it's pointless without Xgl. Upgrade to dapper to get Xgl is my advice.
[12:01] <soundray> sola6662: read the pm that ubotu sent you.
[12:02] <joe__> How can I get my pc to boot windows xp if I installed linux second?
[12:02] <metrocard> hi all
[12:02] <jonatan> floydwil1e: you shoudl have a configuration file at /etc/apt/sources.list it basically tells your package manager where to get its packages from. Everywhere that file sais "breezy" change it to "dapper" then do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:02] <floydwil1e> why does it say use gksudo?
[12:02] <Vixus> mjcs: Thanks I'll give it a shot
[12:02] <mfb__> !gksudo
[12:02] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[12:02] <majd> is vista only available to subscribers?
[12:02] <majd> oh shite...wrong channel
[12:02] <soundray> joe__: select Windows from the grub menu. That shows early in the boot phase (you may have to hit Esc to see it)
[12:03] <mfb__> soundray> no need to hit Esc with multiple OSes, the GRUB menu appears anyway
[12:03] <jjazz> sola6662: You can find packages and look at their depends at packages.ubuntu.com.  You can get .deb files there too.  .deb files are the package files that apt-get usually downloads and installs for you.
[12:03] <joe__> soundray: I've tried that, windows isn't an option
[12:03] <felipe__> I'm trying to intall Enemy Territory and each time a run the installer my computer turns off. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[12:03] <astrisk> i m not getting my video output upto the mark this could be due to i didnt have correct graphic driver so can any one tell me how to install correct graphic driver, my graphics card is of VIA
[12:03] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: any idea off the top of your head how I might find out if the symlink thing is configurable with gnome-terminal? I'm not totally sure what I should be googling for
[12:04] <tuxedup> i have a question about wireless adapters on ubuntu 6.06.  I have a DWL-G122 that can use the RT2500 driver, is this included in the base system of ubuntu 6.06 by anychance?
[12:04] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: probably not configurable.
[12:04] <soundray> joe__: in that case, you may have to add a "title" section to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst . The file contains an example (commented out)
[12:04] <Blissex> tuxedup: probably it is included...
[12:04] <floydwil1e> how about if I do sudo passwd root and the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:04] <sarah> Vixus: A good os on a laptop? Win 2k needs 512 or more, problems with security. A good Linux better
[12:04] <astrisk> i m not getting my video output upto the mark this could be due to i didnt have correct graphic driver so can any one tell me how to install correct graphic driver, my graphics card is of VIA plz help me out
[12:04] <mfb__> floydwil1e> it ssems a bad idea
[12:04] <sola6662> jjazz whats the .deb link?
[12:04] <mfb__> seems*
[12:04] <mocker> Can anyone tell me what package contains an X configuration tool?
[12:05] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: hm, ok.. that's annoying since I have some pretty long pathnames that I've symlinked..
[12:05] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: ok, thanks for the help
[12:05] <mocker> Just install dapper and X isn't wanting to start. ;)
[12:05] <sola6662> omg why is X-Chat clocking pms to me
[12:05] <sola6662> blocking*
[12:05] <mfb__> mocker> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:05] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: you can use 'mount --bind' instead of symlinking.
[12:05] <soundray> sola6662: you have to register
[12:05] <[NP] Tangent> oi
[12:05] <soundray> !register
[12:05] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:05] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:05] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[12:05] <mfb__> oh, why do I have this stupid nickname ?
[12:06] <[NP] Tangent> I just tried enabling preempt in the kernel for breezy
[12:06] <[NP] Tangent> and my wireless didn't work
[12:06] <sola6662> oh
[12:06] <[NP] Tangent> any ideas why?
[12:06] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: if you are really obsessed by that. Note you need to rerun 'mount --bind' on every boot.
[12:06] <Some_Person> help me with livecd
[12:06] <sola6662> how i reg
[12:06] <sammy> hi
[12:06] <ompaul> HymnToLife, personal choice?
[12:06] <ompaul> !helpme
[12:06] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:06] <ompaul> !register
[12:06] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:06] <astrisk> plz any one help me...:(
[12:06] <HymnToLife> ompaul> ISP disconnection most likely
[12:06] <HymnToLife> but this is supposed to be my third nick
[12:06] <Some_Person> how do i get it to boot (i get error
[12:06] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: we dist the symlinks across 50-odd machines, so I don't think the bind would quite work for us
[12:06] <soundray> sola6662: ubotu told you about registering ^^^
[12:06] <sammy> hi can anybody help me i get a kernel panic after resizing my main partition
[12:06] <ompaul> sola6662, ^^up a couple of lines
[12:06] <jjazz> sola6662: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fc%2Fcompiz%2Fcompiz_0.0.2-4ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=d2e007d71baf404633ea8004f093d891&arch=i386&type=main
[12:07] <Blissex> mcdonaldsguy: thats the case...
[12:07] <soundray> jjazz: can you stop this please.
[12:07] <soundray> jjazz: it's pointless, and you are creating support work for us.
[12:07] <Vixus> sarah: Exactly. ;)
[12:07] <Warbo> What filesystem are initrd images? I have tried cramfs and squashfs with no luck (and loop requires a type)
[12:07] <astrisk> any one plz help me out....
[12:07] <sammy> nobody?
[12:07] <ompaul> !helpme
[12:07] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:07] <HymnToLife> !hrlpme
[12:07] <ubotu> HymnToLife: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <mcdonaldsguy> Blissex: ah well... thanks agian
[12:07] <HymnToLife> typo + late
[12:07] <ompaul> sammy, ^^ a couple of lines
[12:08] <HymnToLife> soon time for bed I guess
[12:08] <sammy> uhu? @ ompaul
[12:08] <sammy> i don't understand
[12:08] <jjazz> sola6662: soundray seems adamant that this won't work, so perhaps you should try his method.
[12:08] <HymnToLife> !tell sammy about justask
[12:08] <astrisk> i m not getting my video output upto the mark this could be due to i didnt have correct graphic driver so can any one tell me how to install correct graphic driver, my graphics card is of VIA
[12:08] <sammy> hi can anybody help me i get a kernel panic after resizing my main partition how can i fix it?
[12:08] <ompaul> sammy, first prefix lines with the users name, that is the best way on IRC, second, If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:08] <astrisk> plz help me out by telling how to install draphic driver
[12:09] <joe__> soundray: When I add the title section to menu.lst, do I need to edit the example for it to boot from the right partition, or just leave it as is?
[12:09] <soundray> astrisk: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select via as your driver.
[12:09] <Warbo> What filesystem are initrd images?
[12:09] <ompaul> astrisk, more info, what kind of graphics card is it?
[12:09] <sammy> ompaul, i aksked twice now ; )
[12:09] <sola6662> cool reg*
[12:10] <soundray> joe__: Windows installs to (hd0,0) by default. I would just try that and see if it works, unless you already know it won't.
[12:10] <astrisk> ompaul, its onboard graphics card of MSI mother board
[12:10] <ompaul> sammy, if you resized and your kernel is bombing out there is something very serious wrong (just a guess)
[12:10] <ompaul> astrisk, have you any graphics at the moment?
[12:10] <sarah> Vixus: if you like to use win2k. Get all updates from MS. Use 512mg+ ram. Or learn Linux Ubuntu is great for anyone.
[12:10] <soundray> sammy: did you resize a mounted partition?
[12:10] <astrisk> ompaul, i dont have any external graphics card
[12:10] <sammy> ompaul, maybe its beacause i resized it under windows with Paragon Partition Manager
[12:10] <gholen> HI! Anyone here to help me with 915resolution?
[12:10] <Warbo> sammy: The only kernel panics I've ever had on Ubuntu are when my filesystem is gone (not turned on my external hard disk)
[12:11] <HymnToLife> anyway, partition resizing is not  conventional Unix process
[12:11] <joe__> soundray:  Alright, I'll try it out
[12:11] <astrisk> ompaul, yes i m running a video song
[12:11] <HymnToLife> so it's not advisable to do it at al, thins might cause problems like you're experiencing now
[12:11] <soundray> sammy: does that program support resizing Linux partitions?
[12:11] <sammy> soundray, yes
[12:11] <soundray> sammy: ext3 as well?
[12:11] <ompaul> sammy, more likely you overwrote something you should not have and have done serious damage to your ubuntu installation, I suggest using a live CD to see if you can mount the partition and rescue any data you want from it, and then do a reinstall
[12:12] <Ratzilla> where can i get widescreen wallpaper?
[12:12] <joeblu> deviantart.org
[12:12] <sammy> I had made my reiserfs smaller and my ntf bigger
[12:12] <psYchotic> good evening, I dist-upgraded yesterday, and I was wondering how I could blacklist modules now that the /etc/hotplug/blacklist isn't working anymore
[12:12] <HymnToLife> sammy> obviously it doens't resize properly, I think you just f***ed your system up
[12:12] <sarah> Sarah is the computer name.not mine. this is 512mg ram. 900mghz machine. ide and scsi drives.
[12:12] <Warbo> sammy: You know that you need to shrink your filesystem, shrink your partition, then maybe expand your filesystem to fill the remainder of the partition? (partition and filesystem are different, and resizing partitions and not filesystems is a bad idea)
[12:12] <sammy> HymnToLife, you mean Paragon screwed my system?
[12:13] <ompaul> astrisk, I think your issues are confused, please answer this exact question, have you got a graphical user interface, full of nice point and click windows?
[12:13] <Warbo> sarah: 900 million GHz? wow!
[12:13] <HymnToLife> sammy> yep
[12:13] <sammy> Warbo, sorry i don't understand im not so good in eglish
[12:13] <HymnToLife> as I told you, ext partitions should not be resied at all
[12:13] <HymnToLife> they're not designed for this
[12:13] <C|int> hey all
[12:13] <sammy> shit...
[12:13] <C|int> comging back to ubuntu
[12:13] <C|int> :)
[12:14] <acke> Hey, im on a laptop. the mouse pad moves my mouse to fast.... I have tried to change the mouse speed in the mouse setting in preferences. but the speed is unaffeced. How can i change the mouse pad speed of the mouse????
[12:14] <soundray> psYchotic: I *believe* it's just a matter of creating a file containing the name of the to-be-blacklisted module in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/
[12:14] <Warbo> sammy: Files are stored on filesystems (like ext3) and those are kept in partitions. You must resize both (the filesystem first)
[12:14] <ompaul> sammy, get yourself a live CD and see if you can rescue anything, but somehow I doubt you will be able to
[12:14] <sarah> mghz is mega hertz
[12:14] <C|int> I am not going mess with FreeBSD, even latest, I mean if I have to load commands, snd_ich to load, my intel sound. lol.. bs on that :P
[12:14] <psYchotic> soundray: thanks, I'll try that
[12:14] <HymnToLife> sarah> nop, MHz is :)
[12:14] <C|int> hey Warbo
[12:14] <C|int> I"m back :)
[12:14] <phreak97> sarah, no it isnt
[12:14] <Warbo> C|int: Hey
[12:14] <phreak97> MHz is
[12:14] <C|int> I mean, after all, I got Cedega 5.0 working great, and I shouldn't of said what I said about ubuntu
[12:15] <pez> hi, i was wondering if there is anyone that could answer my question regarding partiotining?
[12:15] <sammy> ompaul, i have a livecd but i have no possiblity to backup my data
[12:15] <HymnToLife> phreak97> u g0t pwn3d :)
[12:15] <phreak97> C|int beat me to it
[12:15] <C|int> heya pez :)
[12:15] <C|int> beta ya to what?
[12:15] <C|int> :P
[12:15] <phreak97> to correcting sarah
[12:15] <pez> hi C|Int.. how are you dude? :-)
[12:16] <blaze> hey, may somebody help me resize my partitions in ubuntu?
[12:16] <jonatan> sammy, do you have any backups of yoru data ?
[12:16] <phreak97> wow, this is the first time i've seen anything other than a help desk in here
[12:16] <blaze> and tell me how to format them
[12:16] <jonatan> sammy, especially, did you put /home on a separate partition ?
[12:16] <Warbo> Anyone in here now that knows what filesystem Ubuntu's default inird images are?
[12:16] <astrisk> ompaul, yes i have a graphical user interface, but the problem is that while playing any video my video clearity is not upto the mark and also then motion of the video is not same as it has to be..
[12:16] <pez> my question is exactly the same as blaze's
[12:16] <sarah> ok.. 900 MHZ stands for mega hertz
[12:16] <blaze> oh cool :)
[12:16] <pez> how bizzare..
[12:16] <blaze> :D
[12:16] <phreak97> sarah, no, the z is lower case
[12:17] <blaze> strange, yes :) but a coincidence
[12:17] <ompaul> sammy, well then loose windows and you won't make that mistake again :-) seriously get your partitioning right before you try reinstalling again give yourself at least 10G for ubuntu but personally I have over 200 G in this box all ubuntu and its not the only ubuntu machine here :-) (no other o/s allowed ;-))
[12:17] <sammy> jonatan, yes on cds but it will take to much time i did this alla after deleting gentoo ...
[12:17] <phreak97> 900 MHz
[12:17] <soundray> blaze, pez: boot from a live CD and run gparted
[12:17] <jonatan> blaze: do you have an existing ubuntu install or are you trying to partition another disk before installing ubuntu ?
[12:17] <blaze> oh, ok :)
[12:17] <Warbo> astrisk: Try reducing the colour depth to 16, that may make it run faster
[12:17] <blaze> i have an existing ubuntu install
[12:17] <tristanmike> what command do i use to see the size of my swap partition ?
[12:17] <blaze> i've just deleted my windows :)
[12:17] <ompaul> !tell astrisk about restrictedformats
[12:17] <tristanmike> please and thanx
[12:17] <jonatan> blaze: in that case I STRONGLY recomend backing up your data first
[12:17] <pez> does the LFS Live CD contain gparted?
[12:17] <joeblu> tristanmike, i would run gparted
[12:18] <blaze> oh, don't worry :D it's ok ;)
[12:18] <ompaul> astrisk, you might get some use out of that page that ubotu pointed you to.
[12:18] <soundray> tristanmike: cat /proc/meminfo
[12:18] <ompaul> !tell astrisk about resolution
[12:18] <sammy> ompaul, i need windows but i need it for somethings and i nedet more space on my windows partition so i changed the size
[12:18] <phreak97> sarah ?
[12:18] <jonatan> blaze, no, really, resizing partitions is one of those things that can potentially make it a pain trying to retreive all your files
[12:18] <tristanmike> thanx soundray :)
[12:18] <blaze> ok
[12:18] <soundray> tristanmike: sudo fdisk -l should also show it
[12:19] <pez> what linux distrubution does everyone here use?
[12:19] <ompaul> sammy, well you need to give ubuntu a reasonable amount of room if your to use it and enjoy it and as I said about 10G is the minimum that I would suggest to anyone for a general purpose machine
[12:19] <blaze> so.. i have to boot from the live cd and run gparted, right?
[12:19] <tristanmike> soundray, fdisk, that's what I was looking for, I was thinking df -h, but that didn
[12:19] <cubikdice> pez, Ubuntu
[12:19] <tristanmike> *t do it for me
[12:19] <jonatan> pez, channel name...
[12:19] <soundray> pez: don't you read the /topic?
[12:19] <phreak97> pez, i use a broken ubuntu
[12:19] <tristanmike> soundray, thanx again
[12:19] <sammy> ompaul, my partiton for ubuntu is 90gig
[12:19] <sarah> Many Linux installations require a lot less space on the hard drive than any windows. Unless it is Win3.1
[12:19] <ompaul> sammy, :-) kewl
[12:19] <jonatan> blaze, do you want to increase or decrease the partition size ?
[12:20] <blaze> well.. maby increase
[12:20] <liquidindian> Does anyone know what to do with a .run file for installation?
[12:20] <C|int> sorry ubuntu for giving up so early, I just am not going go through a configuration for wireless, then next thing you know, the dam thing looses its modules,
[12:20] <ompaul> sammy, but it looks like a reinstall is your only option
[12:20] <sammy> ompaul, linux is my main system windows just for music production and some games
[12:20] <C|int> back
[12:20] <blaze> not maby, but increase
[12:20] <joe__> soundray: It didn't work.  The device I have windows on is /dev/hdb5, how do I tell it to boot from there?
[12:20] <ompaul> sammy, agnula for music :)
[12:20] <phreak97> sarah, MHz (capitol capitol lowercase
[12:20] <phreak97> )
[12:20] <aphorism> sammy you should support the linux music production scene
[12:20] <jonatan> blaze: I'd suggest you use the install CD to simply create a new partition
[12:20] <blaze> i have 1 vfat empty partition
[12:20] <ompaul> sammy, by the time eft comes out it may have more music features
[12:20] <blaze> and i can format it from ubuntu
[12:20] <C|int> hey sammy, I have made some games, just a theory, compared to running Cedega 5.0
[12:21] <pez> sorry im a complete linux noob
[12:21] <blaze> and make it extended 3
[12:21] <sammy> ompaul, there must be a posiblity to fix this reinstall system is just the windows way i think an on linux you fix it ^^
[12:21] <blaze> but i want the swap partition to be increased too
[12:21] <blaze> so.. what should i do :)
[12:21] <jonatan> blaze: I'd just create new partitions in the empety space.
[12:21] <sammy> C|int, yes but i don't have a high peformance an cedega is to slow for me ^^
[12:21] <C|int> and today, I'm gettin ready to setup VMware Player, and win4lin, and then run a fluxbox , and then via , Windows inside linux. . pretty much the most secure you can get it without having to have a IDS< intrusion detection system
[12:21] <jonatan> blaze: its quite possible to have more than one swap partition
[12:21] <blaze> but.. how can i create a new partition with a definite size?
[12:21] <woodwizzle> Is Dapper still coming out the 1st?
[12:22] <Flannel> woodwizzle: yep
[12:22] <ompaul> sammy, you don't know what you broke, try the liveCD and see what you can find
[12:22] <blaze> so that i can create a linux partition and leave space for another swap partition
[12:22] <blaze> ?
[12:22] <jonatan> blaze: you delete the vfat partition and then use the partitioner to create new ones
[12:22] <woodwizzle> awesome
[12:22] <woodwizzle> =)
[12:22] <blaze> and.. the partitioner is gparted?
[12:22] <ompaul> woodwizzle, yes
[12:22] <Flannel> blaze: on the liveCD, yes
[12:22] <sammy> ompaul, so you mean i have to backup the data an reinstall kubuntu?
[12:22] <jonatan> blaze: the partitioner will quite happily let you specify the partition size
[12:23] <blaze> and.. can i use another linux's live cd?
[12:23] <tHeDvL> i did, apt-get install tftpd-hpa
[12:23] <tHeDvL> it installed
[12:23] <tHeDvL> how can i run it now ?
[12:23] <blaze> i have knoppix V4.0
[12:23] <blaze> liveCD
[12:23] <jonatan> blaze: the by far easiest way is to use the ubuntu install CD and select manual partitioning. Then just abort the installation when you are done
[12:23] <tHeDvL> please help me :(
[12:23] <tHeDvL> running tftp server
[12:23] <blaze> ok, cool :), thanks jonatan :)
[12:23] <inicehyena> anyone know what the system requirements for Xubuntu are? roughly?
[12:24] <blaze> i'll try
[12:24] <cmatheson> are there any repositories that have sox w/ mp3-support built in? (or, does anyone know a good way to convert oggs to mp3s)?
[12:24] <Flannel> tHeDvL: it's most likely already running
[12:24] <Vixus> sarah: I never said I liked win2k
[12:24] <blaze> brb ;)
[12:24] <jonatan> blaze: do create backups first
[12:24] <blaze> i know, ok :)
[12:24] <Vixus> sarah: It's the most pants thing ever
[12:24] <jonatan> blaze: really
[12:24] <tHeDvL> Flannel: how can i run it ?
[12:24] <blaze> :D
[12:24] <|neo> does any one has de repositories to get the mplayer for dapper ?
[12:24] <blaze> ok, i heard you
[12:24] <ndlovu> If I connect to a samba share using Places > Network Servers, can I then access that share from the commandline?
[12:24] <phreak97> is it worth upgrading to dapper?
[12:24] <Flannel> tHeDvL: it's already running most likely.
[12:24] <phreak97> what changes are there?
[12:25] <tHeDvL> Flannel: explain please
[12:25] <ompaul> tHeDvL, this is a list of the uses of tftpd on the wiki check them out and see which one matches your situation best: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=tftpd&fullsearch=Text
[12:25] <Flannel> phreak97: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta
[12:25] <ompaul> phreak97, lots and the dapper channel is #ubuntu+1 for another 7 or so days
[12:26] <tHeDvL> ompaul: ok thanks
[12:26] <dou213> what's a good file browser in ubuntu?
[12:26] <ompaul> tHeDvL, enjoy
[12:26] <ompaul> dou213, click on places and home folder :-) its called nautilus
[12:26] <Nuevo> 'Mozilla Quality feedback'.... is spyware???
[12:27] <C|int> back
[12:27] <dou213> other ones?
[12:27] <jonatan> phreak97: probably worth it, but you may want to wait a week or so until it goes official
[12:27] <ompaul> Nuevo, source?
[12:27] <skircr115> hello
[12:27] <mish4> any of you use conky?
[12:27] <C|int> hey,; anto9us still here?
[12:27] <jonatan> ompaul: if you use gnome nautilus, if you use kde konqueror
[12:27] <C|int> I want to get , Breezy , working wireless again, like we had did, or unless dapper would.. eh :)
[12:28] <Vixus> C|int: I'd love to as well. :)
[12:28] <ompaul> jonatan, he said Ubuntu not Kubuntu :-)
[12:28] <Vixus> Xubuntu?
[12:28] <eth0-noob> does anyone here know who i could change my xbox to be used like a computer and can help me do it? ( i want everything gone and just the computer part of xbox. )
[12:28] <Ratzilla> does anyone hereknow how to use ubuntu-calendar?
[12:28] <C|int> Vixus: , hee, I had it up, but I got so excited and did, a dist-upgrade
[12:28] <eth0-noob> how*
[12:28] <Vixus> C|int: Well, I need to get it setup on my laptop with a USB dongle
[12:28] <jonatan> ompaul: well technically I'm using KDE on ubuntu as I installed ubuntu to begin with and then switched to KDE ... but yea...
[12:28] <ndlovu> *sigh* computers would be so much better if we didn't have to wait for reboots, I/O, processing, etc...
[12:28] <skircr115> yeah
[12:29] <skircr115> no joke
[12:29] <Vixus> ndlovu: But that's what makes them computers.
[12:29] <skircr115> true
[12:29] <eth0-noob> lol
[12:29] <phreak97> jonatan, thanks, i reckon ill upgrade once it goes final
[12:29] <eth0-noob> heh bye
[12:29] <phreak97> or official
[12:29] <Vixus> like if eth0-noob turns his xbox into a computer
[12:29] <phreak97> whatever
[12:29] <Vixus> it will have to boot
[12:29] <skircr115> yeah, he eh
[12:29] <C|int> Vixus: , what type of wireless you got, lets both work on this together
[12:30] <C|int> I am not going let any network protoocol stand in my way, or any unability to do what I have my mind set up
[12:30] <Vixus> C|int: thanks, it's a Belkin USB dongle F5D7050
[12:30] <Vixus> I heard ndiswrapper can handle it
[12:30] <C|int> oh.. eh usb lol :P
[12:30] <Vixus> C|int: http://www.jroller.com/page/nobodii?entry=belkin_f5d7050_on_ubuntu
[12:30] <C|int> cool :)
[12:30] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[12:30] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:30] <C|int> usb isn't that fast though
[12:30] <ompaul> Vixus, ^^^
[12:30] <jonatan> Vixus, frankly, I prefer it when computers boot. Like the other day I tried to upgrade to dapper, something went wrong and it wouldn't boot...
[12:31] <C|int> yep yep, I alreayd know about ndiswrapper lol @ u guys
[12:31] <skircr115> j
[12:31] <C|int> hey guys, lets say I want to use breezy, or what would be best for ReiserFS
[12:31] <C|int> ?
[12:31] <phreak97> bye ppl
[12:31] <Vixus> ompaul: ^^^?
[12:31] <cubikdice> bye
[12:31] <Vixus> Here I go with Xubuntu.
[12:31] <jonatan> C|int: I couldn't get ndiswrapper to work on dapper when I tried, but that was some time ago, so it might be fixed now.
[12:31] <Vixus> Hope it runs this time
[12:31] <ompaul> Vixus, look up a few lines - in that case a link to ndiswrapper in ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:32] <Vixus> Oh
[12:32] <Vixus> The crucial thing is getting my usb dongle detected
[12:32] <joe__> If I have Windows XP on partition 5 (it's NTFS), how do I make an entry in /boot/grub/menu.ls to boot it?
[12:32] <C|int> yeah, I heard ya jonatan, me either
[12:33] <ompaul> Vixus, lsusb or >> sudo lshw | more << do you see it there? if not move it to another usb port
[12:33] <C|int> i almost had it on , Breezy, then I did a dist-upgrade
[12:33] <C|int> and it messed it up
[12:33] <ompaul> !tell joe__ about grub
[12:33] <sarah> Someone asked about min. req. for Ubuntu. Website says PC Intel x86. That will cover a lot of machines..
[12:34] <C|int> today though, I am going get it working, and plus, I am going install vmware player, and workstation, and win4lin , whatever the heck I have to do, and install a fluxbox, and have windows running inside linux and I going be bad ass
[12:34] <miranda82> hello
[12:34] <C|int> talk to you all in a bit
[12:34] <miranda82> is there anyway to mount an .img file?
[12:34] <ompaul> sarah, if you want a spec my lowest machine here is a PIII with 128 megs of ram an 8meg video card and 9 gig scsi disk .. xubuntu flies on it
[12:35] <jonatan> xbuntu is the xfce version of ubuntu, yea ?
[12:35] <icheyne> yes
[12:36] <ompaul> miranda82, this might work but I don't know substitute the relevant parts: To mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)
[12:36] <jonatan> meh, I like my bloated bouncy KDE windows :P
[12:36] <miranda82> ompaul, ISO
[12:36] <icheyne> anyone know how I can check exactly what memory I have on my system, without opening my case up? (I'm lazy)
[12:36] <miranda82> ompaul, u thing it should work?
[12:36] <C|int> well, I am going get that wireless working... talk in a few..
[12:36] <sarah> xubuntu is with the XFCE desktop env.
[12:37] <ompaul> miranda82, well I have no other ideas the most it can do is faile
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> icheyne : free -m
[12:37] <C|int> and I am not going let nothing stand in my way, and i will help others with wireless world wide
[12:37] <icheyne> lsuactiafner, thanks
[12:37] <icheyne> I'll try that now
[12:37] <C|int> I will ever record , in real time, with TechSmith Camtasia Studio how to do it.. ;)
[12:37] <[NP] Tangent> cool
[12:37] <Vixus> WOW
[12:37] <[NP] Tangent> I got the Hydrogen virtual drum machine working
[12:37] <C|int> with sound and everything
[12:37] <Vixus> Xubuntu on my laptop!!!
[12:37] <Vixus> :O
[12:37] <ompaul> Vixus, enjoy
[12:37] <C|int> I mean, the things I can do with windows. hee :)
[12:37] <C|int> Vixus: , don't worry :)
[12:37] <txoko> hello. Anybody is a valgrind expert?
[12:38] <sybariten> which is the most "advanced" winrar clone runnable under ubuntu (hoary) ?
[12:38] <Vixus> ugh
[12:38] <Vixus> how do I login>
[12:38] <Vixus> what is the username and password? XD
[12:38] <game16> hey?
[12:38] <icheyne> free -m is OK, but it doesn't tell me if I have sdram etc
[12:38] <Flannel> sybariten: what do you define advanced as?
[12:38] <ompaul> Vixus, the ones you used during the install
[12:38] <Vixus> ompaul: LiveCD
[12:38] <Vixus> :D
[12:38] <txoko> I would like someone to help me on running valgrind on a heavy program ... is it possible?
[12:38] <sybariten> Flannel: able to extract multipart rars
[12:38] <ompaul> Vixus, interesting try #xubuntu
[12:38] <shylock> how can i get gnome 2.14 i cant seem to find it in synaptic?
[12:38] <shylock> i have breezy
[12:39] <katie_> can someone help me installa wireless card?  sohoware nd5120-E
[12:39] <icheyne> lsuactiafner, any other suggestions?? :S
[12:39] <jonatan> shylock: if you wait a week or so until Dapper is released I think it is included by default
[12:39] <ompaul> katie_, please check the message from the channel bot
[12:39] <sarah> Well my experience with most smaller Linux versions is .. some work great with only 200MGH and 128 or less ram.
[12:40] <Flannel> sybariten: unrar not work for you for some reason?
[12:40] <katie_> ompaul:   mine might be supported though
[12:40] <sybariten> Flannel: yeah well it puked on this archive, at least
[12:40] <jonatan> sarah, but but, no bouncy cursors : /
[12:40] <shylock> jonatan, will it be a lot of trouble upgrading you think?
[12:40] <sybariten> Flannel: plus i have a vague memory of it not working too well with password protected archives
[12:40] <ompaul> katie_, then system administration networking and you should be able to take it from there
[12:41] <sarah> Here we have about ten diff. kinds of Linux.. including Centoo... some cd boot..
[12:41] <jcsston> is it possible to disable a module (hpt366) in the kernel without recompiling the kernel?
[12:41] <sarah> what does a bouncy curser mean..?
[12:41] <jonatan> shylock, it shoudl be relatively straight forward, but thats one of the reasons why you wan't to keep your home directory on a separate partition. It makes it very easy to just do a fresh install of the system without losing data
[12:42] <txoko> I would like someone to help me on running valgrind on a heavy program ... is it possible?
[12:42] <sarah> cursor
[12:42] <crimsun> txoko: yes, but it will be /very/ sluggish
[12:42] <Pyru> Hello, I am curious on how to update firefox to the newest version
[12:42] <Pyru> I am new to linux
[12:42] <shylock> jonatan, how about all software i struggled to installm will it be removed too?
[12:42] <philipsmith> I've just installed a nice ripper: goobox. I want to add it to the "sound and video" list under the "applications" menu. How do I do this?
[12:43] <txoko> crimsun: is there a possibilitie to apply valgrind only to some parts of the code of a program???
[12:43] <jonatan> sarah, the busy cursors in KDE sort of bounce. Some people find KDE bloated, hence it was a little joke
[12:43] <sarah> Look.. Linux does not run like Window 2k or even win95/98 Seems Linux does not hog mem like win appl.
[12:43] <shylock> jonatan, would really suck to start over again when i spent 2 weeks getting everything tor run
[12:43] <Pyru> Hello, I am curious on how to update firefox to the newest version
[12:43] <joe__> How do I boot from an NTFS partition with grub?  When I try to set its root to the partition, it says the filesystem is unknown, and when I try to make it active it tells me the device is invalid.
[12:43] <Flannel> !tell Pyru about ff1.5
[12:44] <rab> !dapper
[12:44] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[12:44] <crimsun> txoko: yes, gstreamer, for instance, has valgrind detection
[12:44] <philipsmith> Pyru: Why?
[12:44] <kung> gn8
[12:45] <shylock> jonatan,  btw are you Jonathan Ridell?
[12:46] <jonatan> shylock: uhm , no
[12:46] <jonatan> shylock: hence the spelling of my name
[12:47] <txoko> Crimsun: I see no relation between gstreamer and valgrind ...
[12:47] <shylock> jonatan, ok, thanks for your help
[12:47] <[Surge] > Is this the right place to ask about ubuntu USB problems?
[12:47] <Flannel> [Surge] : yes
[12:47] <Flannel> [Surge] : erm, unless it's on dapper, then #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <jojoman02> [Surge] , it is unless you're on Dapper
[12:48] <[Surge] > Breeze
[12:48] <[Surge] > Breezy
[12:48] <[Surge] > Seen this before? : usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[12:48] <tubbie> !azureus
[12:48] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:48] <txoko> Crimsun: I feel you did not understand me ... what I mean is making valgrind to trap memory errors just for some pieces of code ...
[12:49] <[Surge] > Scenario : Western Digitial 400GB external USB 2.0 drive. Works fine under Windows XP but not Ubuntu Breezy.
[12:49] <ompaul> [Surge] , is it formatted all ntfs?
[12:50] <[Surge] > FAT32
[12:50] <crimsun> txoko: if integrated with the debugger interactively, perhaps. That's a question for the man page.
[12:50] <jonatan> [Surge] : can you mount it?
[12:50] <ompaul> [Surge] , please read the message from ubotu that should sort you out
[12:50] <ndlovu> okay, using the live cd, is there any way I can get commandline access to a samba share? nautilus can connect, but then I can't do anything from a terminal :(
[12:51] <sarah> Pyru: Download latest from mozilla.org The ver. for your particular Linux may not be avail...
[12:51] <ompaul> ndlovu, don't try to write to it I will have  the bot tell you about mounting it
[12:52] <ompaul> ndlovu, you are looking at the samba client
[12:52] <Pyru> sarah, I got it thanks!
[12:53] <txoko> crimsun: thanks a lot!!!
[12:53] <ndlovu> ompaul: my understanding is that that's not included in the livecd? sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/share doesn't work for me...
[12:53] <Pyru> few more questions, I installed wine and installed steam, so i can play counterstrike, but its not working :S
[12:53] <Manika> can we expect dapper on june 1st?
[12:54] <sarah> Pyru A hint which we have learned .. make a data disk/part. for all important data.. save you a ton of time if system crashes..
[12:54] <jojoman02> i've been praying for it, lets see if it works out
[12:54] <andrejkw> Transfers between my Bluetooth phone and PC always freeze at a certain point.
[12:54] <ompaul> ndlovu, well you can install things on the livecd if you have the ram to support it, and  you can make things persistant
[12:54] <gordonjcp> tremulous > counterstrike
[12:54] <andrejkw> I can't figure out whats wrong :(
[12:54] <andrejkw> Sometimes it freezes later and soemtimes right in the beginning.
[12:54] <[Surge] > jonatan: No I can't.
[12:54] <ndlovu> ompaul: would that be using apt-get install?
[12:55] <ndlovu> ompaul: ah...
[12:55] <[Surge] > ubotu: ?
[12:55] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Surge]
[12:55] <ompaul> ndlovu, or synaptic you can do it anyway you like, more important to make it persist I sent you a how to keep that data
[12:55] <ompaul> !ubotu
[12:55] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:55] <jonatan> [Surge] : ubotu is a BOT
[12:55] <sola6662> yo whats the .deb so i can get wine?
[12:56] <[Surge] > Yeah I know - just haven't used it before.
[12:56] <sarah> Pyru In the old days we used floppies to boot and save to another, and if floppy was destryed, thanked ourseves for backups.. we should think like that today
[12:56] <ompaul> sola6662, system add applicaitons
[12:56] <Pyru> probably yes lol
[12:56] <ic56> !wine
[12:56] <ubotu> compatibility for running windows programs on linux.  Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/  or see for wine repo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more support join #winehq
[12:56] <Pyru> sarah, do you know much about wine and linux?
[12:56] <[Surge] > ompaul: That's not my problem - the device won't even get listed.
[12:56] <jonatan> [Surge] : anyway, what happens when you try to mount it ?
[12:57] <sola6662> thx
[12:57] <sarah> Pyru My thing is this, if you want to run Windows boot a Windows machine..
[12:57] <Vixus> Right, I did lshw and my USB wireless dongle has been detected well: network:0 DISABLED description: wireless interface; id: rausb0; capabilities: ethernet physical wireless, etc etc
[12:57] <[Surge] > jonatan: There is no device to mount
[12:57] <Vixus> how do I work with this?
[12:57] <[Surge] > The USB disconnects the device.
[12:58] <jojoman02> !flash
[12:58] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <jonatan> [Surge] : hmmm thats odd
[12:58] <ompaul> [Surge] , click on sytem administration disks (you can't mount it if the directory is not made)
[12:58] <sarah> Pyru Wine can work,, and may do well.. but nothing is like Windows to run apps for Windows.
[12:58] <jonatan> ompaul: apparently the device doesn't even exist
[12:59] <jonatan> which is slightly worse
[12:59] <ompaul> [Surge] , shove it into another usb port
[12:59] <[Surge] > usb 5-3.2: scsi_eh_2 timed out on ep0in
[12:59] <[Surge] > usb 5-3.2: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[12:59] <[Surge] > scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 2 channel 0 id 0 lu n 0
[12:59] <Pyru> sarah, I just want 1 app from windows :P
[12:59] <Pyru> not the windows os.
[12:59] <ompaul> [Surge] , DONT PASTE thanks, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:59] <[Surge] > Ok I'll type the three lines instead. :P
[01:00] <sarah> Pyru :I understand.. you can try it. Get the latest Wine and go for it.
[01:00] <ndlovu> livecd persistence is cool! you could do such cool stuff with it.
[01:00] <ompaul> [Surge] , ehh put them in the pastebin thanks
[01:00] <jonatan> [Surge] : what he meant is that there is a webpage for pasting such things, then you just paste the URL instead
[01:00] <jojoman02> Pyru: what you trying to run?
[01:00] <[Surge] > Yes I know :)
[01:00] <disinterested_pe> so is there more stuff for dapper than breezy?
[01:01] <jonatan> [Surge] : did this disk need some crazy drivers to be installed for it to work under windows or smth ?
[01:01] <[Surge] > Nope
[01:01] <jojoman02> disinterested_pe, there is newer stuff:P
[01:01] <[Surge] > USB mass storage device.
[01:01] <jonatan> That is a bit bizarre
[01:01] <sarah> Pyru My son in LA has used Wine, and says it works with a lot of apps.. not all..what can I say?
[01:01] <tubbie>  can u increase the gnome titlear?
[01:02] <jonatan> [Surge] : my flash disk works out of teh box : /
[01:02] <jonatan> [Surge] : so I really have no idea
[01:02] <disinterested_pe> do u know if the linux version of yahoo messenger works on dapper?
[01:02] <jojoman02> disinterested_pe, ever try gaim? or you don't like it
[01:03] <jonatan> [Surge] : does this happen all the time or only occasionally ?
[01:03] <[Surge] > All the time when I plug the disk in.
[01:03] <disinterested_pe> well theres always more ppl in the rooms then come up in gaim yahoo
[01:03] <jonatan> [Surge] : have you tried pluging it in before you boot ?
[01:04] <[Surge] > Yes
[01:04] <ompaul> [Surge] , have you plugged it into some other usb prot?
[01:04] <jonatan> and that doesn't work either ?
[01:04] <ompaul> s/prot/port
[01:04] <andrejkw> Why do my bluetooth transfers always die halfway or in the beginning?
[01:04] <jojoman02> disinterested_pe, i'm sure it should...
[01:04] <jonatan> ompaul: he sais it works fine on windows, so that shouldn't be the problem
[01:05] <jonatan> ompaul: tho I suppsoe theres no harm in trying
[01:05] <jojoman02> andrejkw, did u try bumping the speed down
[01:05] <andrejkw> jojoman02: how?
[01:05] <[Surge] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14562
[01:05] <disinterested_pe> well i know it doesnt work in breezy jojoman02
[01:05] <jonatan> [Surge] : can you use other USB devices , such as flashdisks ?
[01:05] <[Surge] > Yes
[01:05] <andrejkw> jojoman02: how?
[01:05] <[Surge] > I use a camera and a USB flash stick
[01:05] <disinterested_pe> i dont understand y some applications of linux dont work
[01:05] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:06] <jojoman02> disinterested_pe, well i would email yahoo then...
[01:06] <tubbie>  can u increase the gnome titlear?
[01:06] <tubbie>  can u increase the gnome titlebar size?
[01:06] <disinterested_pe> yeah like they ever do any thing jojoman02
[01:07] <tete> yea
[01:07] <tete> hellow people
[01:07] <disinterested_pe> id redownload it and try again but im still trying to figure out how to install a few things ive already downloaded
[01:07] <ic56> tubbie: if you mean the gnome menubar, the answer is yes -- you can change its size.
[01:07] <andrejkw> jojoman02: how do I bump the speed down?
[01:08] <Flannel> disinterested_pe: what are they? rpm? tar.gz?
[01:08] <tete> anibody speack spanish?
[01:08] <ic56> !es
[01:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:08] <disinterested_pe> yep rpm
[01:08] <disinterested_pe> and tar gz
[01:08] <Flannel> disinterested_pe: use alien.  There's a howto on the wiki, Im sure.
[01:08] <ompaul> [Surge] , have you moved it to another port in the last 10 minutes?
[01:08] <disinterested_pe> hummm got the page
[01:09] <tubbie> ic56, nope, the title bar
[01:09] <jonatan> [Surge] : I really have no clue.
[01:09] <tubbie> the bar on the top of the window
[01:09] <[Surge] > ompaul: Nope - I was just copying and pasting other people's troubles. However I never found a solution to their posts.
[01:09] <[Surge] > That pastebin one is from my dmesg.
[01:10] <sarah> pyru: http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/219877.htm  tells of use of Wine in Linux
[01:10] <disinterested_pe> if i can ever figure out this linux i wont have to buy xp discs again
[01:11] <ompaul> [Surge] , give us the output of >> sudo fdisk -l << in the pastebin
[01:11] <jonatan> disinterested_pe: most things shoudl be straight forward to install through the package manager
[01:11] <jojoman02> disinterested_pe, regardless of the yahoo thing, i would still use Dapper Drake...
[01:11] <andrejkw> wow
[01:11] <ic56> tubbie: I don't think you grow a window's titlebar.  I assume you wanted to add a second line to it, so the window's title wouldn't be truncated?
[01:11] <andrejkw> i think i solved it my plugging it into a diff USB
[01:11] <jonatan> disinterested_pe: usually its a good idea to see if it is in the repositories before trying to download it manually
[01:11] <disinterested_pe> ive got dapper ordered lol
[01:12] <disinterested_pe> when they start shipping
[01:12] <jojoman02> disinterested_pe, you can always try using alien with an rpm
[01:12] <disinterested_pe> ok jonatan
[01:12] <disinterested_pe> i'll look
[01:12] <[Surge] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14563
[01:12] <jonatan> disinterested_pe: try to search for it using synaptic ( or whatever you use )
[01:13] <disinterested_pe> i dont know how jojo
[01:13] <jonatan> if it pops up there it should be pretty much just work
[01:13] <facugaich> Where can I put some commands to be run at boot time?
[01:14] <sarah> disinterested_pe: running Linux is like any other system. The rub is learning the system. that can take time. I am 66, and I am still learning more than one kind of Linux, not just Ubuntu. There are many others out ther Suse has great support as does Ubuntu.. I like Ubuntu, automatic updates.. that is cool, not many have it.
[01:14] <ompaul> [Surge] , :-( I was hoping against hope that it had two partitions, one hidden and that was what was causing the problem
[01:14] <sola6662> yo sarah may i ask u something?
[01:14] <Rug> in /etc/network/interfaces should the line read:    gatewaydev=ppp0     _or_    gatewaydev ppp0            ?????
[01:15] <[Surge] > Where do the USB gurus hang out?
[01:15] <ompaul> [Surge] , got a live CD  of dapper or warty around?
[01:15] <sarah> disinterested_pe: On top of all that.. Ubuntu is absolutely free, thanks to a millionare, as stated on the website.
[01:15] <[Surge] > ompaul: Unfortunately not.
[01:16] <disinterested_pe> yeah im not saying anything bad about it sarah
[01:16] <ompaul> [Surge] , thats a bug stick it into lauchpad using the dmesg and fdisk -l  commands to give weight to it
[01:16] <sola6662> i have a storage drive that i cant get into its NTFS formated HDD is there a way i can get to my files without formating?
[01:16] <ompaul> [Surge] , launchpad.net
[01:16] <Flannel> !tell sola6662 about ntfs
[01:16] <sarah> sola6662: sure go for it.. I have a little more time..
[01:16] <ompaul> [Surge] , I assume you have dsl?
[01:16] <[Surge] > Dialup :D
[01:16] <gleesond> whats the link for pasting code???
[01:17] <rdk> hi, I have installed ubuntu on my desktop system for the first time... On first boot it gives an error that HAL cannot initialize.  I have tried reinstalling from synaptic, but that didn't work.  I am using 5.10.  Does anyone have any suggestions on what to try next?
[01:17] <ompaul> surge its freedom toaster time then
[01:17] <Rug> !pastebin
[01:17] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[01:17] <Rug> gleesond: or pastebin.com
[01:17] <[Surge] > ompaul: Ok but I'll try bug some USB guys first. Thanks,
[01:18] <ompaul> [Surge] , in general they will insist on you putting it in launchpad first
[01:18] <jonatan> facugaich: there are a bunch of directories named rc0.d , rc1.d etc in /etc/ sticking stuff there causes them to run at the corresponding runlevel
[01:18] <[Surge] > ompaul: What is launchpad?
[01:18] <ic56> facugaich: what command did you want to run?
[01:18] <ompaul> [Surge] , launchpad.net a simple web interface for bug reporting
[01:18] <[Surge] > Ah ok
[01:18] <[Surge] > Thanks
[01:18] <jojoman02> [Surge] , and it's also for traslations
[01:19] <disinterested_pe> i guess there is no plugins for rpm in  synaptic
[01:19] <disinterested_pe> firefox rpm
[01:19] <rdk> anyone have any idea on what to do about HAL not initializing on first boot?
[01:19] <disinterested_pe> mplayer plug-ins
[01:20] <ompaul> !rpm
[01:20] <ubotu> rpm is, like, totally, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[01:21] <ompaul> !alien
[01:21] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:21] <jonatan> disinterested_pe: it might be in the restriced or multiverse respoistories
[01:21] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, ^^^ look back a couple of lines
[01:21] <disinterested_pe> ok
[01:21] <disinterested_pe> ty i will trash them
[01:21] <sarah> sola6662: Well, what OS
[01:22] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, rpms are bad  for Ubuntu in general you can get it all in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:22] <rdk> no one has any ideas on what to do when HAL wont' start on a clean install?  this would seem like a not-so-good bug to me..
[01:22] <dou213> hey does somebody here have xgl properly installed and can support me? i've already tried #ubuntu-xgl but nobody's answering
[01:22] <disinterested_pe> what about alien lol
[01:22] <amphi> dou213: #ubuntu+1 perhaps
[01:23] <dou213> ok
[01:23] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, it will more than likely cause you pain there are lots of things you can do without going near that space
[01:23] <disinterested_pe> ok om
[01:23] <disinterested_pe> ive trashed the files anyhow
[01:24] <disinterested_pe> i was just trying to get more streamlink stations to work
[01:25] <disinterested_pe> out of all the ones i had on windows only one will work on this
[01:25] <sarah> sola6662: Here is a link..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77367
[01:25] <abec> hi all
[01:26] <ompaul> !ntfs
[01:26] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[01:26] <mish4> "mounting local filesystem failed" when i boot ubuntu
[01:26] <mish4> any ideas?
[01:26] <disinterested_pe> can someone with breezy also go to a link and see if the stream will work
[01:26] <ompaul> sola6662, ^^ back up a couple of lines
[01:26] <nry> hi ppl
[01:26] <nry> good nite
[01:27] <kar-tar> I'm having trouble setting up a new monitor.  It's a BenQ 202W, and it should be running at 1680x1050.
[01:27] <ompaul> !resolution
[01:27] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:27] <ompaul> kar-tar, ^^
[01:27] <shadowman> yeah
[01:27] <kar-tar> mmmk
[01:27] <shadowman> u must re-config xorg
[01:27] <nry> I want to install a tar.bz2 program, any help
[01:28] <jonatan> mish4: I get that as well and I got it down to my USB flash disk, apparently it was plugged in when I installed the system and it attempts to mount it even if it isn't there.
[01:28] <mish4> anyway to figure out whats cauising the error?
[01:28] <shadowman> yeah tar xvjf program.tar.bz2
[01:29] <shadowman> =]
[01:29] <disinterested_pe> well im going to take my green iguana out side for a walk
[01:30] <nry> shadowman, thanx
[01:30] <shadowman> n/p
[01:30] <sarah> Most unix/ Linux systems uses formatting similar to FAT32, am I correct? Like MS Dos.
[01:30] <ompaul> sarah, no
[01:30] <abec> can someone help me, i have connection problem with xp on vmware
[01:30] <ndlovu> okay, I figure that dvdrecord is just the tool I need to write a DVD-R. Except it seems to need an iso as input. no problem, I write an iso. Except that the filesystem won't let it get over 2GB. so how can I write an iso?
[01:30] <shadowman> sarah: nope linuxes uses ext3 filesystem
[01:31] <shadowman> fat32 is a win32 fs
[01:31] <amphi> shadowman: amongst others
[01:31] <ompaul> sarah, totally different style of system, most people use a journalled fs called EXT3 then there are several others
[01:31] <shadowman> yeah there's few fs's
[01:31] <Rug> in /etc/network/interfaces should the line read:    gatewaydev=ppp0     _or_    gatewaydev ppp0            ?????
[01:32] <[NP] Tangent> hey guys
[01:32] <shadowman> yo
[01:32] <shadowman> :D
[01:32] <[NP] Tangent> I'm having a problem with Audacity
[01:32] <sarah> Of course, but it is certainally not like Win FTFS
[01:32] <[NP] Tangent> wait
[01:32] <[NP] Tangent> wtf
[01:32] <[NP] Tangent> it all of a sudden works
[01:32] <[NP] Tangent> odd
[01:32] <amphi> Rug: you shouldn't need anything in interfaces for ppp0, the pppd up scripts should set the default gw
[01:33] <shadowman> lol
[01:33] <Rug> amphi: this is on a firewall (FYI)
[01:33] <shadowman> damn i ate too much :/
[01:33] <amphi> Rug: when ppp0 comes up, the default route should be set automagically
[01:34] <kar-tar> annoying.  dpkg reconfigure crashes, but ddcprobe gets all the specs right
[01:34] <jvai> hey uall
[01:34] <shadowman> yo jvai
[01:34] <Rug> ack
[01:34] <jvai> dapZ SHADOW
[01:34] <shadowman> dapZ?
[01:34] <Rug> amphi: that wasn't the answer I was hoping for.  =)
[01:34] <shadowman> lol
[01:35] <shadowman> i didnt get it :P
[01:35] <amphi> Rug: heh - I'm not aware of a 'gatewaydev' option in interfaces in any case
[01:35] <nry> shadowman, man, I get that....checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[01:35] <Rug> amphi: it does make a difference.
[01:35] <shadowman> u must install c++ package for gcc
[01:35] <Rug> because if I set it wrong, then things go weird
[01:36] <facugaich> are jonatan or ic56 still here?
[01:36] <ic56> facugaich: yes
[01:36] <shadowman> damn i dont remeber what this package is called
[01:36] <shadowman> hmmmm...
[01:36] <facugaich> ic56, I want to load a modules, run a command related to it and finnaly an "ifconfig"
[01:37] <shadowman> lol ifconfig works in ubuntu?
[01:37] <amphi> Rug: here, the pppd defaultroute option is in /etc/peers/$PROVIDER
[01:37] <amphi> Rug: er, /etc/ppp/peers/$PROVIDER
[01:37] <Rug> is that setup by using pppoeconf ?
[01:37] <sarah> Getting NTFS files to Linux, if important could be transferred from a Win. machine to cd then to Linux. Safest way. Mounting a drive like that, If important data, is not a good idea..
[01:37] <ic56> facugaich: ok. how much do you know about runlevels and the /etc/init.d directory?
[01:37] <ndlovu> is there some way to use cdrecord without creating an image first?
[01:38] <shadowman> sarah: yeah NTFS dont working propelry on linux
[01:38] <amphi> Rug: oh, pppoe? that may be different; this was setup by pppconfig
[01:38] <Rug> are you on cable or DSL?
[01:38] <facugaich> ic56, I read some man page about a script to add others scripts to rc*.d, don't remember its name though
[01:39] <shadowman> u can just read, and if u want to write u can loose all ur data
[01:39] <shadowman> it sux thought
[01:39] <facugaich> ic56, so, not much
[01:39] <sarah> Yes, I have transferred many files including picture files with cd transfer, never will affect that drive.
[01:39] <amphi> Rug: both dialup and dsl peers files use the same pppd defaultroute option
[01:39] <shadowman> :)
[01:40] <ic56> facugaich: interesting. I didn't know there was such a tool.  I should look into it.  Anyway, hang on a couple minutes.  I have a somewhat canned response to your Q.
[01:40] <amphi> Rug: the only time I used a cable modem, I just plugged in the the ethernet and ran dhclient
[01:40] <facugaich> ic56, thank you, I'll wait
[01:40] <shadowman> amphi: yeah this is the easiest way
[01:40] <leojstewart> is there any way to play Windows Media DRM files in ubuntu?
[01:40] <shadowman> DRM?
[01:41] <shadowman> wtf is that?
[01:41] <Rug> amphi: Did anybody ever tell you; that you are an awesome source of ulcers?
[01:41] <amphi> Rug: heh
[01:41] <leojstewart> shadowman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_DRM
[01:41] <shadowman> k
[01:41] <Rug> ack this is annoying...
[01:41] <Rug> thanks for your help
[01:41] <facugaich> Digital Rights Management?
[01:42] <sarah> Remember experience is usually by doing, have a nice one, hope to return some time.. Well back to my Windows 2000 system.. :)
[01:42] <shadowman> win32 codecs for mplayer does not include this 1?
[01:42] <leojstewart> I need to be able to play files that use DRM
[01:42] <leojstewart> no, it doesn't.
[01:42] <shadowman> hmm
[01:42] <amphi> leojstewart: 'need'?? ;)
[01:42] <leojstewart> and the ubuntu wiki says that it is unable to play them.
[01:42] <leojstewart> amphi: well, no. :P
[01:42] <shadowman> so ur problem is solved ;-)
[01:43] <amphi> leojstewart: IMHO you 'need' to boycott such filth ;)
[01:43] <leojstewart> amphi: some sites don't have an alternative
[01:43] <leojstewart> like mediazone
[01:43] <amphi> leojstewart: so don't visit them
[01:43] <ic56> facugaich: Do you know how to edit files on Linux?  With gedit or vi or something like that
[01:43] <shadowman> try win4lin and run win32 and fuck all :]
[01:43] <facugaich> ic56, yeah
[01:43] <amphi> leojstewart: and/or complain to them that you are unable to view their broken media files ;)
[01:43] <leojstewart> amphi: but then I would have to go without my beloved Rugby
[01:44] <leojstewart> amphi: well, luckily they DO say that they know the problem exists
[01:44] <amphi> leojstewart: video files of sport are DRM'd? wtf?
[01:44] <leojstewart> amphi: and they are looking for a way to support alternative OS's
[01:44] <amphi> leojstewart: that's good news
[01:44] <leojstewart> amphi: I don't know why, either.. ><
[01:44] <shadowman> so u must w8
[01:44] <shadowman> lol
[01:45] <leojstewart> shadowman: waiting is for the weak.
[01:45] <Drac[Server] > This is a question I thought I knew the answer to after using Linux for over two years... Does Linux, for any reason, slow down as the harddrive is filled, or does having a separate file for swap and superior filesystems prevent this?
[01:45] <ndlovu> how do I check the bus address of my dvd writer? (dev = 0,1,0 or whatever)
[01:45] <amphi> leojstewart: sounds like they're trying
[01:45] <Rug> pppconfig is just for dialup (Chap and Pap) not DSl's PPPoE
[01:45] <elixter> hi, i'm going to install ubuntu on my PC and need to know does it recognise NTFS filesystem ?
[01:45] <amphi> Rug: yes
[01:45] <nry> shadowman, man, I get the same answer
[01:45] <shadowman> what progs are u compilating?
[01:46] <leojstewart> amphi: yes, but this is their advice: Please check back periodically and make your wishes known with Apple and Microsoft.
[01:46] <Rug> amphi: ahh good.
[01:46] <Flannel> elixter: you can read from NTFS, yes.
[01:46] <elixter> but not write ?
[01:46] <nry> shadowman, aMule
[01:46] <leojstewart> amphi: they also mention linux, just not in that sentence.
[01:46] <Flannel> elixter: nope.  NTFS is not an open standard.  Our reverse engineering efforts aren't stable all the time for writing.
[01:46] <amphi> leojstewart: buck passing, sounds like
[01:46] <shadowman> hmm
[01:46] <leojstewart> there must be some type of hack which allows me to watch it ><
[01:46] <ic56> facugaich: ok, the existing scripts that deal with networking in my Ubuntu 5.10 box are /etc/rc0.d/S35networking and /etc/rc0.d/S36ifupdown
[01:46] <nry> shadowman, idem