[10:14] <agent_white> adminewb: So they've been restored to the original, but not to your 'updated' version you want? Might need to start tossing in parts of those dot files back into the new ones created.
[10:14] <Hans-Martin> agent_white: all icons are displayed as the default document icon (papersheet with folded corner), even directories etc. Only user defined icons (thumbnails for pictures, windows icons for windows applications to be run with wine) remain.
[10:14] <sam_> hai iam install ltsp on ubuntu how to conncet vnc to the thin client the thin clients is getting same ip for all users
[10:15] <agent_white> Hans-Martin: I see... hmmm.
[10:15] <sam_> and hoe to conncet same session throw vnc server in centos
[10:15] <Hans-Martin> dw1: I'll try it anyway, it can't become much worse than it is :-)
[10:17] <Orpheon> Hello, is there some way to access files on a live ubuntu USB?
[10:18] <Orpheon> ie. During a boot from USB I stored some files, can I retrieve them without booting from that USB?
[10:18] <dw1> Orpheon: plug it in and browse and find out? :)
[10:19] <agent_white> Orpheon: Only if you move those files back onto something persistant (ie - harddrive, etc.).
[10:19] <agent_white> ^^ dw1 is the man :D
[10:19] <dw1> yea the live usb isnt persistent by default is it
[10:19] <Orpheon> I made ~6 GB persistent
[10:19] <Orpheon> but I'm not finding said files as cleartext anywhere on it
[10:20] <Hans-Martin> no success...
[10:20] <Orpheon> could it be that the filesystem is somehow compressed?
[10:20] <dw1> Orpheon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/311508/how-to-access-my-saved-files-on-a-persistent-liveusb ?
[10:20] <dw1> never used it :(
[10:20] <Orpheon> ah
[10:20] <Orpheon> thank you
[10:22] <agent_white> Hans-Martin: Alright so... for user-defined icons...
[10:22] <steven_> dragon108
[10:22] <agent_white> Hans-Martin: /usr/share/icons is the folder.  Everything BUT /usr/share/icons/Humanity are custom.
[10:23] <agent_white> Hans-Martin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79110/how-can-i-assign-custom-icons-to-folders  -- This may be of help.
[10:23] <steven_> knows someone with linux mint 15 from
[10:24] <Hans-Martin> agent_white: I don't think so - my problem isn't the custom icons (which seem to work) but the generic document icon that is displayed for everything
[10:24] <steven_> knows someone with linux mint 15 from
[10:24] <agent_white> Hans-Martin: Oh! So you want to keep the custom icons, but change the generic icons?
[10:25] <dw1> !mint | steven_
[10:25] <adminewb> actually my program launcher buttons have been restored to original, but not the mountable drive buttons, they're still mangled
[10:26] <Hans-Martin> agent_white: and with another user on teh same machine, everything works alright, so the problem is definitely somewhere in my user settings. My home directory has been through dozens of ubuntu versions, so there's likely some garbage somewhere, but I don't want to throw everything away just to make gnome happy...
[10:28] <adminewb> I wouldn't know where to find the right dot files in this config jungle under /home
[10:29] <mjayk> Haya all, on my laptop my trackpad is detected and the clicks work but it does not move the pointer any help would be appriciated 14.04
[10:32] <kostkon> Hans-Martin, move or rename the folder ~/.icons and try again?
[10:33] <cvtsx> so i need help and someone told me to type "rm -rf/" in to terminal, should i?
[10:33] <kostkon> cvtsx, nope
[10:34] <Hans-Martin> kostkon: that won't help - there are just 5 custom icons there, it would most likely not affect the display of default icons
[10:34] <kostkon> Hans-Martin, ok
[10:34] <agent_white> cvtsx: No.
[10:36] <dw1> cvtsx: that means remove, recursive, force, and the root folder (all files) :)
[10:38] <dw1> cvtsx: had you run it, you would be looking to re-install ubuntu and for offline backups of your files :p
[10:38] <cvtsx> lol ty
[10:42] <Hans-Martin> cvtsx: who was that "someone"?
[10:42] <cvtsx> on a forum
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> !12.10
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> 12.10 is no longer supported right, does that also mean eol?
[10:48] <ikonia> EOL = end of life, no support/updates anything
[10:48] <ikonia> "dead"
[10:48] <ikonia> or "you're on your own"
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: why does it still show in topic if i may ask
[10:48] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: which topic ?
[10:48] <ikonia> oh, this channel
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: #ubuntu topic
[10:49] <ikonia> it only went out of support yesterday so it's not been updated, I'll do it now
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: tnx!
[10:49] <kuba_> hi
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> kuba_: welcome
[10:49] <kuba_> i am quite new at linux. I am trying to install and cofigurat eclipse for programming microcontrollers
[10:50] <kuba_> can somebady help me?
[10:51] <TomyLobo> try #eclipse
[10:51] <kuba_> i have installed it
[10:52] <kuba_> but i have a few problems
[10:52] <TomyLobo> try the channel #eclipse
[10:52] <kuba_> ok
[10:52] <kuba_> i will check
[10:52] <TomyLobo> you are in #ubuntu. eclipse isnt ubuntu
[10:52] <kuba_> i know
[10:52] <ikonia> there are eclipse packages for ubuntu
[10:52] <kuba_> but i did ist succesfull under windows
[10:52] <kuba_> there are linux based problems
[10:52] <ikonia> it's fine to ask how to get them installed here
[10:52] <TomyLobo> yeah
[10:52] <kuba_> i understand you, thanks
[10:52] <TomyLobo> but he said "cofigurat"
[10:53] <TomyLobo> which i think means "configure"
[10:53] <ikonia> TomyLobo: perhaps asking what he actually wants... before pushing him out
[10:53] <ikonia> or understanding the problem
[10:53] <kuba_> but i still have one question to linux
[10:53] <Capprentice> Hi ! anyone using Gnome 3.12 ? How can I organize apps in Groups under Gnome 3.12 ? I have Gnome Software beside Ubuntu Software Center now. Why KDE apps are not listed in Gnome Software Center ?
[10:54] <malinux-> I have a clevo w76tun computer, running Ubuntu 14.04. I can't get it to suspend when closing laptop lid. This stopped to work after linux-kernel 2.6.38
[10:54] <kuba_> i downloaed tar.gz package and extracted it
[10:54] <kuba_> but i cannot lunch it
[10:54] <ikonia> Capprentice: because they don't update the gnome menu as they are designed for KDE
[10:54] <kuba_> after installing from repo it lunchaes normally
[10:54] <kuba_> but i cannot lunch extracted package
[10:54] <ikonia> kuba_: depends what's in the tar.gz you don't always "launch" the contents
[10:55] <kuba_> there is executable file
[10:55] <kuba_> but when i try to lunch it, nothing happens
[10:55] <cvtsx> kuba_ did you change perms?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: maybe dconf-editor might have a suspend entry
[10:56] <kuba_> for this package?
[10:56] <cvtsx> for the executable
[10:56] <kuba_> no
[10:56] <cvtsx> do it
[10:57] <kuba_> ok
[10:57] <kuba_> but executable file has 3x r
[10:57] <kuba_> so everyone can read it, right?
[10:58] <Hans-Martin> success - gnome-tweak-tool fixed it.
[10:58] <TomyLobo> ikonia well, installing some random tar.gz is not really ubuntu-specific. people in #eclipse have done it before and can help him
[10:58] <TomyLobo> if he has a deb and trouble installing that, that's when we can help
[10:58] <agent_white> Hans-Martin: Good to hear! I had seen that in my google-fu but didn't think it would do the trick...
[10:59] <ikonia> TomyLobo: again - you have no idea what he's installing, what's in the tar, or anything
[10:59] <kuba_> huys
[10:59] <TomyLobo> ikonia unless there's a .deb in the tar...
[10:59] <kuba_> huys*, i have donwloaded package from eclipse.org
[10:59] <ikonia> TomyLobo: if there is a deb in the tar it means nothing
[10:59] <kuba_> the newest build for 32 bit linux, indiego package
[11:00] <kuba_> i have extracted it with tar -xvzf command
[11:00] <TomyLobo> kuba_ do you have a 32 bit linux?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> !info eclipse | kuba_
[11:00] <kuba_> no 64, but 32 always go well on 64, isn't it?
[11:00] <TomyLobo> not really
[11:01] <kuba_> hmm
[11:01] <TomyLobo> unlike 64 bit windows, 64 bit linux isnt a mixed system, by default
[11:01] <kuba_> ok i will check it. When i was doing it on windows, people said to me If i am new i should get x32 version
[11:01] <TomyLobo> that's also silly
[11:02] <kuba_> i am downloading x64
[11:03] <TomyLobo> the only reasons to use a 32 bit version on a 64 bit windows are that the 64 bit build is buggy, nonexistant, older or otherwise worse
[11:04] <ikonia> kuba_: the simpler you can keep your setup, the easier you will find it, eg: use a 64bit OS, try to use 64bit software,
[11:06] <kuba_> Can i ask you for help if i try to compile program written in C, and i got java.lang.nullptr exception or it should be done in #eclipse?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> kuba_: maybe the ##programming guys might wanna help you also
[11:06] <ikonia> kuba_: I think that you're going to need to take to ##c or #eclipse, to work out if it's a problem with the IDE, or your code
[11:07] <TomyLobo> likely #eclipse or even #eclipse-cdt or what it's called.
[11:07] <kuba_> ok, i see
[11:07] <TomyLobo> you wont get a java.lang.something in C :)
[11:07] <TomyLobo> so it's the IDE that's breaking there
[11:07] <ikonia> TomyLobo: you will
[11:07] <ikonia> TomyLobo: it's the IDE
[11:07] <ikonia> however how the ide handles an error could be the actual code
[11:07] <TomyLobo> ikonia that's what i was saying dude
[11:07] <ikonia> hence working out where the error is
[11:08] <kuba_> But i do, and this is C project, moreover even in eclipse i have C/C++ perspective (or sth like that)
[11:08] <TomyLobo> ikonia so dont send him to ##c for that error
[11:08] <ikonia> TomyLobo: I didn't send him to ##c for that error
[11:08] <TomyLobo> for other errors, sure, but this one is clearly not originating from C
[11:08] <ikonia> I sent him to ##c to work out if his code had problems
[11:08] <ikonia> or if the ide was causing it not to compile
[11:09] <TomyLobo> ikonia if his IDE has uncaught exceptions, he should diagnose those and get an update or replacement before moving on
[11:10] <ikonia> TomyLobo: that is one line of the output, it's quite possible it's how it's displaying the exceptions in the code, or it's own error handling
[11:10] <TomyLobo> you clearly have no idea what a java.lang.NullPointerException is
[11:11] <ikonia> pretty sure I do, howver, this is getting pointless
[11:11] <TomyLobo> "getting"?
[11:11] <TomyLobo> it's obvious that his IDE is broken
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> lets move on to ubuntu support guys
[11:12] <TomyLobo> and considering it's eclipse (cdt no less), i'm not the least bit surprised
[11:12] <TomyLobo> good idea
[11:15] <kuba_> Thanks, now it works
[11:15] <binali> People)))
[11:15] <kuba_> I had to download x64 instead od x32 versions
[11:15] <kuba_> I had to download x64 instead of x32 version*
[11:15] <TomyLobo> so the NPE was with the 32 bit version?
[11:16] <TomyLobo> (NPE = NullPointerException)
[11:17] <kuba_> Yes
[11:18] <TomyLobo> you should have mentioned that :)
[11:19] <kuba_> i wrote it somewhere, that is was x32 package
[11:20] <TomyLobo> yep, then we told you to get a 64 bit package. i kinda assumed you would get that before going on
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> kuba_: you can apt-cache search packagename if you like, this way you always get the correct package for your architecture
[11:23] <kuba_> Everything works fine now, I can program my microcontrollers
[11:24] <kuba_> Thank you so much, i was fixing all bugs for about 2 hours ...
[11:24] <Capprentice> Installing x64 is a wise choice. There are few Linux softwares that are 64 bit only. Such as - LightWorks Video Editor.
[11:25] <kuba_> Can you recommend me an article or guide about linux basics?
[11:26] <ilhami> Hey
[11:26] <ilhami> can I get filezilla for Ubuntu???
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !manual | kuba_
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !info filezilla | ilhami
[11:27] <ilhami> THANKS!!!! :))))
[11:27] <ilhami> nice bot btw
[11:27] <kuba_> well, it is a bit longer than article :D
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> kuba_: what kind of basics specific?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> kuba_: terminal commands?
[11:28] <kuba_> Architecture differences between windows and linux
[11:28] <kuba_> and yes, some terminal commands, but it isnt very important
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> kuba_: you can google differences if you like, in here we can only support ubuntu
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> !bash > kuba_
[11:29] <MrmappyINOF> Hey guys
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> MrmappyINOF: hello mate
[11:30] <MrmappyINOF> I'm quite new to Linux and ubuntu
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> MrmappyINOF: well this is an ubuntu support channel if you have some problems
[11:30] <MrmappyINOF> Okay
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> MrmappyINOF: so feel free to ask ubuntu related issues
[11:33] <kuba_> thank you all for help
[11:33] <kuba_> see you
[11:34] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: it has, all settings is set to suspend.
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: hmm might be some bug maybe?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: maybe try to tail -f /var/log/syslog and try hibernate, see what it does
[11:35] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: hibernate instead of suspend?
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: suspend sorry
[11:35] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: okey :)
[11:35] <Asyn> Ok, so I'm dog tired and maybe that's why I can't think this out... I've got the following setup: I have a desktop that connects to the router via wifi, and the ethernet port is plugged to a switch that is also connected to another PC.  Ideally I want to just bridge the connections, but with WPA working the way it does it seems like a pain in the ass... so couldn't I just in theory use iptables with something like iptables -A FORWARD -
[11:35] <Asyn> I mean, obviously I can't or I wouldn't be asking the question.
[11:36] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: it dosen't report anything when I close my lid. (the command)
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> Asyn: thats more a ##networking issue
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: hmm, maybe check previous logs then for errors?
[11:37] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: like the pm-suspend.log ?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: not sure about that, never use suspend myself
[11:37] <daftykins> Asyn: network manager should support bridging the connections
[11:37] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: ah
[11:38] <malinux-> there is no errors in the /var/log/pm-suspend.log
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: how bout the syslog?
[11:39] <Asyn> daftykins: Yeah, I tried that... ended up just breaking all together.  Something about it being an WPA network seems to break it.
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: what laptop brand is this?
[11:41] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: it's a clewo W761tun
[11:41] <malinux-> *clevo
[11:42] <malinux-> syslog dosen't have any errors about pm-suspend
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: few google results on clevo suspend bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1285761
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: maybe new kernel might solve?
[11:43] <MrmappyINOF> Hey guys
[11:44] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: thanx. I could check it out. Well, how new should the kernel be before it starts to work again? It hasen't worked since kernel 2.6.38 and it hasen't worked on any kernel since
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: not sure mate, just see few hits on clevo suspend errors
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: you doublechecked bios for suspend options maybe?
[11:47] <daftykins> Asyn: how far did it get though? did the other PC get an IP?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !info uswsusp | malinux-
[11:48] <Asyn> daftykins: The bridge?  No, because the wifi wouldn't connect anymore once I bridged them.
[11:49] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: yes, my laptops bios dosen't have any suspend-options. I dualboot with win7 in Win7 it works.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: ok
[11:50] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: is uswsusp a program I could try?
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> malinux-: yes seems like a handy suspend prog
[11:50] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: I give it a shot :)
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> or pm-suspend
[11:51] <malinux-> by the way. am I banned from this channel? I couldn't join with my regular nick: Malinux from withihn quassel, so I use the web-interface. I Know I was removed from this channel few weeks ago because I was idle.
[11:54] <malinux-> lotuspsychje: I do have to manually configure the uswsusp?
[11:55] <daftykins> Asyn: did you run into http://superuser.com/questions/597834/bridging-wifi-to-ethernet-on-ubuntu-not-working ?
[11:57] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone else use transmission-daemon? i have a UID mapping issue i don't understand
[11:58] <rostam> hi during installation of third party kernel module, lttng, I get  following error: Can't read private key. Here is the pastebin for it:   http://paste.debian.net/100134/
[12:01] <smartass> hi, could anyone recommend a good alternative to Calligra Plan or TaskJuggler?
[12:02] <Asyn> daftykins: I was trying to avoid masquerading so I didn't have to set up a bunch of forwarding rules for the other wireless clients.
[12:02] <daftykins> Asyn: i was more highlighting the guy saying it can't be done. have you got control over the wireless network settings to change WPA just for experimentation?
[12:06] <Asyn> daftykins: Yes I do.  I can try that next.
[12:07] <leipzig> So, why exactly doesn't Ubuntu support making an infrastructure hotspot out-of-the-box?
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> leipzig  what brings you here?
[12:08] <daftykins> leipzig: you haven't written it into network manager yet ;)
[12:08] <leipzig> daftykins, What do you mean?
[12:09] <leipzig> MonkeyDust, What's wrong with me being here?
[12:09] <smartass> hi, could anyone recommend a good alternative to Calligra Plan or TaskJuggler that would support time tracking and reporting (Gantt charts)
[12:09] <Celine> Hello. I've 2 user account on this Lubuntu, and I want to make second one the default one that will load automatically after reboot. How to do this?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> leipzig  i meant, instead of asking "why", better ask "how"
[12:10] <TomyLobo> he was asking "why not", not "why" :)
[12:10] <leipzig> MonkeyDust, Oh, yes. Actually, I'd love to know how! :)
[12:10] <leipzig> TomyLobo, Nice one! lol
[12:10] <daftykins> leipzig: hostapd
[12:11] <leipzig> daftykins, hostapd is broken in 14.04. Even downgrading it didn't work with me for some reason.
[12:11] <Malinux-> uswsusp dosen't work. unless I have to configure it in a way to make it work
[12:11] <daftykins> oh maybe you were that one that spoke of this the other day
[12:12] <leipzig> daftykins, Yeah. I tried to find a solution for it here yesterday, but to no avail..
[12:12] <daftykins> did you ever explain what goes wrong with it?
[12:14] <leipzig> daftykins, I was able to make an infrastructure hotspot using ap-hotspot back in 13.10. But ap-hotspot depends on hostapd, which is broken on 14.04. They say it should work if you downgrade hostapd to the previous version, but it didn't work for me.
[12:15] <TomyLobo> what didnt work? the downgrade process or the software after the downgrade?
[12:15] <leipzig> TomyLobo, As far I understood what happened, the downgrade went just fine. But ap-hotspot still wouldn't budge..
[12:16] <daftykins> we need package management output if that's where somethings going wrong
[12:17] <daftykins> what you describe isn't in enough detail
[12:17] <leipzig> daftykins, Please help me out to bring more details. :\
[12:18] <daftykins> i don't have any experience with those packages to know how they even fit together
[12:20] <daftykins> Asyn: i was sure it could be done graphically without messing with bridge interfaces: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3063/share-wireless-connection-with-wired-ethernet-port?rq=1
[12:24] <Asyn> daftykins: Yeah, I saw that article. It assigns a whole new subnet to the wired connections though, which I was trying to avoid.  I think because of the way APs work, this is just not going to be possible without setting up WDS which my cheap router doesn't support.
[12:26] <daftykins> Asyn: why's that an issue? anything wrong with looking into powerline networking or just buying a USB or PCI wireless adapter? i love cables myself :)
[12:27] <Asyn> daftykins: Yes, a $10 usb wifi dongle would solve all of this, but I'm retiring the secondary computer in a couple months. :)  Just kind of those "hey, I have a spare computer" things. lol
[12:28] <Firefly67> hi, I have a problem that I don't quite know how to express. The left panel on my screen has become "shaded" (disappeared behind some translucent thing the same shade as the desktop) after I did some mouse maneuver. Anyone know how to fix this?
[12:29] <s1991> Hello can some help me, I've windows 8 install in 1 partition but doesn't appear in grub?
[12:30] <s1991> anyone????
[12:31] <khildin> s1991, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:32] <s1991> khildin: boot repair also didn't help
[12:33] <s1991> and also I'm afraid If I'd done something wrong I will miss everything
[12:37] <BurnIrl> Hello =)
[12:38] <BurnIrl> i have an issue with linux
[12:38] <s1991_> sorry did I miss anything, I got disconnected
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> BurnIrl  let's hear it
[12:38] <BurnIrl> nope
[12:38] <daftykins> BurnIrl: please state what you're running and what's happening on one line
[12:40] <s1991_> Hello can some help me, I've windows 8 install in 1 partition but doesn't appear in grub?
[12:41] <daftykins> s1991_: so you installed 8 *after* ubuntu?
[12:41] <perdomwx> Did you install Windows after you installed Ubuntu
[12:41] <ganimede> s1991_, try installing grub customizer (google it), at least to see your grub configuration
[12:42] <s1991_> daftykins: actually I installed 8 first, and then ubuntu, and then remove windows boot option for choosing os to grub
[12:42] <Oisin> lol
[12:43] <daftykins> i don't understand the bit after "ubuntu,"
[12:43] <s1991_> I've also tried running boot-repiar
[12:43] <perdomwx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/370910/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-8-1
[12:43] <daftykins> s1991_: do you mean you changed the boot item in your BIOS/EFI ?
[12:43] <s1991_> daftykins: at initial where system ask to choose between os, so I replace it by ubuntu's grub
[12:44] <ganimede> daftykins, he just removed the win partition from grub
[12:44] <s1991_> daftykins: if you just install window, there won't be grub there would be anything else, so that I replace
[12:44] <s1991_> ganimede: ya, may be :P
[12:45] <ganimede> s1991_, again, install visual grub and check your configuration
[12:46] <s1991_> ganimede: using boot-epair
[12:46] <s1991_> boot-repair*
[12:46] <ganimede> nope, it is another tool. let me google it
[12:46] <Asyn> Sounds like he might have nuked the Win boot partition when loading ubuntu and grub didn't pick it up.
[12:46] <s1991_> ok thanks
[12:46] <ganimede> s1991_, use: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-grub-customizer-302-in-ubuntu.html
[12:46] <s1991_> Asyn: exactly
[12:46] <daftykins> seems so, just a very confusing way of putting it XD
[12:47] <daftykins> EFI or legacy installs?
[12:47] <s1991_> ganimede: I also have that, but I'm afraid to do anything
[12:47] <Asyn> s1991_: How many partitions do you have and what types are they?
[12:48] <Oisin> hi
[12:48] <s1991_> Asyn: 2 ext4 and 2 ntfs
[12:48] <daftykins> Oisin: you haven't told us your issue yet.
[12:48] <Asyn> s1991_: What size are the ntfs partitions?
[12:48] <vignesh> anyone know how to configure sonicwall
[12:48] <s1991_> in one of the ntfs, cantains win-8
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> !info sonicwall
[12:49] <daftykins> vignesh: that's a physical router and beyond the scope of this support channel. try ##networking
[12:49] <ganimede> s1991_: in that case just run it, make sure to show the grub menu (general settings tab), save the configuration and restart
[12:49] <vignesh> okay thank you
[12:50] <s1991_> Asyn: ext4 100GB each, ntfs 50GB and 200G
[12:50] <s1991_> 50gb contains window
[12:51] <daftykins> heh that's going to be a struggle for you in future
[12:51] <daftykins> 50GB is tiny for Windows
[12:52] <Asyn> s1991_: Ugh.  There should be a ~100MB ntfs partition windows uses to boot from (since 7 and up)... someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but without that you might be hosed.
[12:52] <s1991_> daftykins: I know, I didn't use to much
[12:53] <daftykins> s1991_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[12:53] <Ugb3> Hello everyone, i'm planning to buy a new graphic card for my "htpc" working on Ubutunu 14.04 as my Ati 4550 is now incompatible, do you think i should buy a Nvidia card or and Ati card for better compatibility ? (I need to be able to play 1080 videos)
[12:53] <s1991_> daftykins: It won;t hurt my ubuntu, right?
[12:53] <daftykins> s1991_: nope
[12:53] <daftykins> s1991_: it purely provides partition information
[12:54] <s1991_> daftykins: ok, 1 sec
[12:54] <daftykins> Ugb3: nvidia seems to work better
[12:54] <daftykins> Ugb3: how did you get on with trying 'nomodeset' ? did it boot?
[12:54] <Ugb3> daftykins: Only way to boot atm.
[12:55] <daftykins> Ugb3: ah, did you try installing the legacy fglrx driver?
[12:55] <Ugb3> daftykins: as you may know ATi droped support of catalyst for "legacy" cards, so I'm stuck with the open source one, but I can't get any acceleration and full usage of my screen.
[12:56] <s1991_> daftykins: here http://pastebin.com/Q0EkU7Cw
[12:56] <daftykins> Ugb3: yeah, i think there's a package for the last version driver for those old generations though
[12:56] <Pessimist> Ugb3: because the free driver should be enough for your needs
[12:56] <daftykins> Asyn: pastebin also ^
[12:57] <Ugb3> Pessimist: my need are : full screen, more than 4 fps in unity and 1080 playback, not that great.
[12:57] <jrtappers> Is it possible to sign smartcards in gpg agent in the same way ssh keys can be signed?
[12:58] <s1991_> Asyn: http://pastebin.com/Q0EkU7Cw
[13:01] <Asyn> s1991_: So... yeah... no boot partition and no room to make one.  I fear you are looking at a reinstall. :/
[13:01] <Ugb3> It would be easier if the ubuntu installer had an auto nomodesetting for know non working cards.
[13:01] <s1991_> Asyn: reinstall what window?
[13:02] <s1991_> but I can not touch my ubuntu partition I has all my works
[13:02] <Asyn> s1991_: Yes.  You should be able to access the old windows partition through Ubuntu enough to back up anything you might need to, but reinstalling Windows is going to be the practical way.
[13:03] <s1991_> Asyn: I've nothing important in window, I've it all in ubuntu the 100GB partition
[13:04] <MrmappyINOF> I am new to Ubuntu and linux in General, what it the best starter distro?
[13:04] <OerHeks> Ugb3, it had, at the point install/try out, there are options at the bottom panel, with F6
[13:04] <jrtappers> MrmappyINOF, What computer will it be running on?
[13:04] <MrmappyINOF> A virtual machine (on a Toshiba Sattalite C650)
[13:05] <Lindia18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy
[13:05] <BurnIrl> lolhello
[13:05] <ilhami> Hey
[13:05] <Ugb3> OerHeks: yeah a manual one, if you don't know about it you will just have a black screen, for new to linux it can be a bit disapointing.
[13:05] <Asyn> s1991_:  As long as you just choose one of the NTFS partitions to install Windows to it shouldn't touch anything Ubuntu related other than Grub... it will kill grub, but you can just use a live cd to run grub-update again.  HOWEVER, you REALLY should back up anything important beforehand.
[13:05] <ilhami> is there any wifi scanner which can retrieve channels from networks in area+
[13:05] <OerHeks> Ugb3, the installer works flawlessly, no modeset needed at that point
[13:05] <BartDude> I need some help, guys. I installed the network manager stuff needed for OpenVPN and everything worked. As soon as I rebooted my PC, problems started. Now my connection times out every single time. What can I do?
[13:05] <s1991_> Asyn: ok, got it
[13:05] <Asyn> ilhami: airodump-ng
[13:05] <daftykins> ilhami: kismet used to be the old classic
[13:06] <Ugb3> OerHeks: depends on graphic cards.
[13:06] <Ugb3> OerHeks: I can't boot it without nomodesetting.
[13:06] <BurnIrl> ;)
[13:06] <jrtappers> MrmappyINOF, A VM will not give you the best experience, are you sure you want to use one?
[13:06] <ilhami> sudo apt-get install airodump-ng ??
[13:07] <Oisin> Message
[13:07] <daftykins> Oisin: either ask a question or leave. stop wasting our time.
[13:07] <Asyn> ilhami: It's part of aircrack-ng I believe
[13:07] <MrmappyINOF> Yeah, at least for a bit
[13:07] <MrmappyINOF> To test out
[13:08] <jrtappers> MrmappyINOF, For a test a live usb might be better, unless your computer is quite powerful VM's can lag
[13:08] <jrtappers> But base ubuntu is quite nice for beginners, not loo much of a learning curve
[13:09] <jrtappers> *too
[13:09] <MrmappyINOF> Okay, I'll try and get it running
[13:09] <BartDude> I really need your help, guys.

[13:10] <jrtappers> MrmappyINOF, Do you want to try a live usb or a vm? And what VM software are you using?
[13:10] <BartDude> Oisin: Look further up. :)
[13:11] <clh_> XD
[13:11] <ilhami> so how do I capture all wifi networks?
[13:12] <jrtappers> BartDude,  any log messages?
[13:12] <BartDude> jrtappers: Where would I look for them?
[13:12] <BartDude> jrtappers: This is my first Ubuntu installation. :)
[13:12] <daftykins> Oisin: leave.
[13:13] <Deddokatana> hi! where can i find the package maintainers?
[13:13] <jrtappers> They are in /var/log/, thats where logs are kept by default
[13:13] <BartDude> jrtappers: Let me see if I can find something for you.
[13:13] <Deddokatana> i have something that will make them slap themselves with glee
[13:14] <Asyn> ilhami: Read up on the whole aircrack-ng package.  It is a complete toolkit, and what you are asking isn't as simple as you think.  Wireless networks over what time?  What are you wanting to capture?
[13:14] <jrtappers> BartDude, Can you pastebin dmesg first
[13:14] <ilhami> I just want to know what channels the networks around me use so I can adjust
[13:14] <ilhami> thats all
[13:15] <Asyn> ilhami: Then airodump-ng is your answer.
[13:15] <daftykins> ilhami: you've been told some programs to try, so try them :)
[13:15] <MrmappyINOF> I'll try VM for a while, and maybe install it on a computer in the future, and I use VirtualBox for VMs
[13:15] <ilhami> I did install airodump-ng
[13:15] <BartDude> jrtappers: If you tell me what's in it. :P
[13:15] <BartDude> jrtappers: You could make me share some secret information and ruin my system.
[13:16] <jrtappers> BartDude, If I was doing that I would ask for /etc/shadow
[13:16] <jrtappers> :D
[13:16] <Asyn> ilhami: I don't understand where the problem is.  You run it, it tells you all the wireless networks it can see, you hit ^C and your done.
[13:16] <BartDude> jrtappers: Now I'm curious!
[13:16] <jrtappers> Dmesg is just a general error log
[13:16] <jrtappers> /etc/shadow holds the hashed passwords
[13:17] <ilhami> I dont know what command to run Asyn. I tried airodump-ng.. it gave me a list of commands I can do
[13:17] <BartDude> Well... There's dmesg, dmesg.0, and dmesg.1.gz?
[13:17] <jrtappers> BartDude, dmesg, the rest are old logs
[13:17] <BartDude> jrtappers: Hold on.
[13:17] <Asyn> ilhami: It's just airodump-ng <interface>, which by default should be airodump-ng wlan0
[13:18] <jrtappers> MrmappyINOF, It will run ok, but you may want to try a live usb (YUMI or Unetbootin) to see if your hardware will work and to get les lag
[13:18] <jrtappers> All it needs is a usb stick, and it runs entirely off the usb, so there is no risk of wiping your pc
[13:18] <ilhami> ioctl(SIOCSIWMODE) failed: Device or resource busy
[13:18] <jcstarken> good morning all I have a question about why cant I edit the sysctl.conf file to change the size of my swappiness file it keeps telling me I do not have the permission
[13:18] <ilhami> Asyn
[13:19] <ilhami> it tells me to use airmon
[13:19] <jrtappers> jcstarken, are you root
[13:19] <BartDude> jrtappers: Did you see my private message?
[13:19] <ubuntuaddicted> can someone help me with NFS UID mapping? i have a transmission-daemon,  and I share it's folder over my network using NFS and when I view the folder on my other computer it says owner is 121, whereas it's debian-transmission on the server
[13:19] <jrtappers> BartDude, I did now :D
[13:19] <BartDude> jrtappers: Great.
[13:19] <jcstarken> jrtappers:in terminal when i open gedit yes
[13:20] <Asyn> ilhami: Then try airmon-ng start mon0 and then do airodump-ng mon0... this is from memory so I might be a little off.
[13:20] <MrmappyINOF_> I'm now on my computer instead of my iPad
[13:21] <Asyn> ilhami: it might be airmon-ng start wlan0
[13:21] <jrtappers> jcstarken, sudo bash -c "echo 'vm.swappiness = 10' >> /etc/sysctl.conf"
[13:21] <jrtappers> BartDude, Do you have daemon.log?
[13:21] <ilhami> Asyn, it didn't work...
[13:21] <BartDude> jrtappers: Let me see.
[13:22] <ilhami> Asyn I tried both
[13:22] <BartDude> jrtappers: If it should be in the same folder, no.
[13:22] <ilhami> It just keep listing interfaces
[13:22] <jrtappers> BartDude, yes
[13:22] <MrmappyINOF> I'm here now
[13:23] <BartDude> jrtappers: No daemon.log. Is that a good thing? :O
[13:23] <jcstarken> jrtappers: I will try that and reboot and check it thank you, I will look up bash instead of asking thank you again
[13:23] <ilhami> http://pastebin.com/hp37jF3q Asyn
[13:23] <ilhami> this is what I get
[13:24] <jrtappers> BartDude, What is your distro / version?
[13:24] <BartDude> jrtappers: Ubuntu 14.04
[13:24] <MrmappyINOF> jrtappers: if it makes any difference, I currently use Windows
[13:24] <Asyn> ilhami: Ok, I'm guessing you did it a few times... try airodump-ng mon5 then.
[13:25] <ahel> When I boot, no DM starts up after update to 14.04, so I've to switch to tty and "startx", then my session resume booting. any idea where to look for hints?
[13:25] <erle-> why is tmpfs non-executable?
[13:26] <ilhami> Asyn thanks :)
[13:26] <ilhami> that worked
[13:26] <jrtappers> MrmappyINOF, It does not, VM will work ok, live usb will work well, and ubuntu desktop is nice for beginners
[13:26] <Asyn> :)
[13:26] <ilhami> but it's only monitoring one network that isnt mine..
[13:26] <ilhami> aah now the others came
[13:26] <MrmappyINOF> Okay then
[13:27] <MrmappyINOF> I might also try out Ubuntu GNOME
[13:27] <jrtappers> BartDude, can you pastebin [ls /var/log -gh]
[13:27] <BartDude> jrtappers: Yes.
[13:29] <mac_15> hi to everyone
[13:29] <MrmappyINOF> mac_15: Hello!
[13:29] <Ugb3> Does any of you know the function of "Download updates while installing" of the Ubuntu installer ? I had checked it but apt-get upgrade had a sh1tload of updates just after finishing the installation.
[13:29] <ilhami> is it normal for a router to have 13 channels?
[13:30] <daftykins> ilhami: yes, the 2.4GHz ISM band has 13 channels in most regions, 14 in Japan
[13:30] <bekks> ilhami: Sure.
[13:30] <daftykins> ilhami: however most overlap, so your only TRUE choices are 1, 6 and 11
[13:30] <mac_15> trying to mingle with irssi!!!
[13:30] <ilhami> I set mine to 9 :D I hope it will have a good impact
[13:30] <ilhami> it seems faster now
[13:31] <MrmappyINOF> Ugb3: the download updates while installing thing does what it says it is
[13:31] <daftykins> ilhami: picking one of the above three would be best
[13:31] <somsip> I have 12.04 installed on one HD, and have a new HD for 14.04 which will replace 12.04 so I want grub on new HD MBR so I can select boot device in BIOS. tried selecting default during install, and specifying /dev/sdg (new HD per partition manager) but still get nothing after boot prompt. Ideas?
[13:31] <MrmappyINOF> and should install after installation
[13:31] <Ugb3> MrmappyINOF: So why is there still update available after installation ? What kind of update does it install ?
[13:31] <ilhami> daftykins I will try this and if it doesnt work out as it should I might change it to what you said.
[13:31] <daftykins> somsip: just install with the other disk disconnected.
[13:31] <Ugb3> MrmappyINOF: Nothing happened after installation :/
[13:32] <somsip> daftykins: and then use installer's recommended default?
[13:32] <daftykins> somsip: if you wish, i prefer creating a separate /home partition
[13:32] <ilhami> Thanks guys for your help! later!
[13:32] <MrmappyINOF> Then it should ask you if you want to install after ubuntu installation
[13:33] <somsip> daftykins: I have / 200GB and /home 1.8TB on the new HD. But I'll disconnect the other 3 drives so only the new HD is in there and try that - nice idea
[13:33] <daftykins> somsip: enjoy :)
[13:33] <Ugb3> MrmappyINOF: Anything should pop-up ? I just had the screen with the key explanation and that's all.
[13:34] <somsip> daftykins: thanks - bfn
[13:34] <pdo_fn14> Confused to choose btrfs or xfs for high disks performance with high stability. Anyone suggests?.
[13:34] <MrmappyINOF> Ugb3: I don't know then
[13:34] <Ugb3> Weird, I think i can live with having to do a atp-get upgrade but it seems weird.
[13:36] <MrmappyINOF> Ugb3: The sooner you get used to the command line, the easier your Linux experience will become
[13:37] <Ugb3> MrmappyINOF: Yeah i know, i'm pretty used to it now, but i have come back to ubuntu after years of other distro/windows/Mac os X, and sometime i'm enjoying a seamless non-command line experience, and i'm still confused when something doesn't seems to work as it should.
[13:38] <MrmappyINOF> Yeah, there are a lot of distros that don't even need a command line, unless you need to
[13:39] <mamece2> hello i have a problem with the login screen, the background is shifted. I have two monitor but the other is not active atm
[13:44] <ahel> mamece2: i can't even login from lightdm but to manually startx. Has it happened to you also?
[13:45] <dw1> ahel: check the logs, especially /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:46] <Ugb3> How do i know which driver is my graphic card using ?
[13:46] <mamece2> ahel:  no, sorry
[13:46] <bekks> Ugb3: Which graphics card do you have?
[13:46] <ahel> .xsessions-errors says gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-session terminated with status 1 dw1
[13:46] <Ugb3> bekks ATI 4550
[13:47] <ahel> mamece2: lucky you :)
[13:47] <dw1> ahel: nothing more before that?
[13:47] <bekks> Ugb3: then take a look at sudo lspci -k
[13:47] <ahel> dw1: disconnected from notified dbus
[13:47] <dw1> ahel: anything in Xorg.0.log ?
[13:48] <Ugb3> bekks: I only see a "kernel driver in use" for the audio part of my card
[13:48] <dw1> ahel: prob best to check before running startx so you are only looking at hte crash data..
[13:49] <bekks> Ugb3: Pastebin "sudo lspci -k" please.
[13:49] <bekks> !pastebin | Ugb3
[13:50] <m1dnight> is anybody here using CouchPotato? I'm stuck on changing a settingsfile and the forum is taking *ages*
[13:50] <m1dnight> it's probably something easy
[13:51] <Ugb3> bekks:
[13:51] <Ugb3> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7478372/
[13:51] <ahel> dw1: no EE found in Xorg.0.log.old
[13:52] <Moony22> Hello
[13:52] <Moony22> how can I download ubuntu phone
[13:52] <Moony22> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[13:52] <Moony22> I dont see a download
[13:53] <ahel> dw1: tried to dpkg-reconfigure gnome-session and the other but after restarting lightdm, no luck
[13:54] <dw1> ahel: hard to say.. scour them logs when it crashes..
[13:54] <dw1> ahel: kern.log.. syslog maybe
[13:55] <anudas> joinf debian
[13:55] <anudas> join debian
[13:55] <Moony22> what is ubuntu touch
[13:55] <mamece2> hello i have a problem with the login screen, the wallpaper is shifted. I have two monitor but the other is not active atm
[13:56] <m1dnight> mamece2: I have a wrong login wallpaper too
[13:56] <jrtappers> Moony22, Phone os
[13:56] <m1dnight> but it fixed itself when I log in
[13:56] <dw1> ahel: maybe video drivers .. ?  weird startx works
[13:56] <Moony22> jrtappers: why is it not on the website
[13:56] <Moony22> jrtappers: is it no longer supported
[13:56] <jrtappers> Moony22, It is still in development
[13:56] <m1dnight> read the website Moony22
[13:56] <m1dnight> it tells you all about it :)
[13:57] <Moony22> m1dnight: no it doesnt
[13:57] <Moony22> ubuntu website sucks like hell
[13:57] <jrtappers> Quite heavily so, it runs on my N5 (Shh, not supported officially :D) but I would not use it as only phone os
[13:58] <ahel> dw1: yeah that's what is driving me insane: startx works!
[13:58] <bekks> Moony22: It does tell you: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[13:58] <Ugb3> Moony22: You are right, didn't find any pertinent information about ubuntu phone on the website, it look just a corporation website.
[13:58] <m1dnight> well Moony22.. It tells you *when* on the FAQ
[13:58] <m1dnight> it tells you *what* on the homepage
[13:58] <m1dnight> nothing we can tell you is not lised on the page
[13:59] <dw1> ahel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167610/unable-to-start-lightdm-but-can-startx
[13:59] <m1dnight> did they ever manage to reach their goal on the kickstarter, btw?
[13:59] <Ugb3> bekks: did you check my log ?
[14:00] <MagePsycho> hi guys,..i want to change the owner group to root root: rwxrwxrwx 1 desado desado 186K May 17 15:20 Light-Brown-Classy-Dress-1.jpg
[14:00] <MagePsycho> how to do on that file?
[14:00] <bekks> Ugb3: Currently, there is no driver loaded.
[14:00] <bekks> !ati | Ugb3
[14:01] <Moony22> Look - the ubuntu website is the worst website ever
[14:01] <dw1> MagePsycho: sudo chown root.root <file>
[14:01] <Moony22> the only thing it is good at doing is looking nice
[14:01] <m1dnight> oh dear lord
[14:01] <Ugb3> bekks: Ok my card ins't supported...
[14:01] <OerHeks> Moony22, thanks for your input, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[14:02] <bekks> Ugb3: Not supported by what?
[14:02] <Moony22> I go to the ubuntu website - I want to find out: what something is - where I can download it.
[14:02] <MagePsycho> dw1: what if i want to recursively change permisson to all items in a folder?
[14:02] <dw1> MagePsycho: chown -R
[14:02] <Ugb3> bekks: By ubuntu I guess, checked the link you gave me.
[14:02] <Moony22> OerHeks: Yes, is there any release of ubuntu touch or phone or android or whatever it is called
[14:02] <m1dnight> Moony22: for god's sake. If they tell you *when* its going to be released it means it is *not released yet*
[14:02] <dw1> MagePsycho: see also chown --help ;)
[14:02] <m1dnight> so you can't download it
[14:02] <Ugb3> bekks: "For a list of supported video cards, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards "
[14:02] <Ugb3> I couldn't find mine.
[14:03] <MagePsycho> dw1: chown root.root —> chown -R root:root import/ ?
[14:03] <bekks> Ugb3: "by ubuntu" is wrong at that point. Your card is just too old be supported by ATI anymore. It is still supported by the free radeon driver.
[14:03] <OerHeks> Moony22, no, not yet, join #ubuntu-touch for info
[14:03] <MagePsycho> dw1: root.root or root:root ?
[14:03] <Moony22> OerHeks: ok, and is ubuntu phone a phone or an OS
[14:03] <bekks> Moony22: It is an OS.
[14:03] <OerHeks> !phone
[14:03] <dw1> MagePsycho: examples use a colon, so i guess both will work.  not sure the trailing slash will do the parent folder so might wnat to remove it
[14:03] <Ugb3> bekks: I can't find any information on how to install the open source one.
[14:03] <MagePsycho> ok
[14:03] <m1dnight> also, to download it: http://bit.ly/1n7qGZC
[14:04] <Moony22> OerHeks: what is this then? http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[14:04] <OerHeks> Moony22, again, join #ubuntu-touch for info and support
[14:04] <mamece2> m1dnight: should the wallpaper login screen issue reported as a bug?
[14:05] <m1dnight> mamece2: I'm not a pro, but to me personally it's not an issue so I haven't figured it out. I do think it has something to do with the drivers or something :)
[14:05] <m1dnight> So I can't really help you with that
[14:06] <Wispanator> Um Hi I'm having problems installing a new graphics driver. Would anyone help me please?
[14:06] <somsip> daftykins: so now I have the MBR written to the USB drive :-/ Looks like I'll have to set the new HD as the boot drive, and have grub on there, with an option to boot 12.04
[14:07] <bekks> Moony22: Read the headline of your link. "Install Ubuntu for devices on a supported phone or tablet"
[14:07] <ahel> dw1: thank you dived into your link. Now I'll look for lightdm configurations on the web
[14:08] <dw1> ahel: i would check that lightdm log
[14:08] <mamece2> ok then.. i have a big problem. I made a mistake using dd. I had a 750 GB NTFS external hd. I started doing dd from my laptop hd to the external dd and i overwrite a bit before doing ctrl+c. Now my ntfs drive has got a lil bit ext4 partition and a lot of UNALLOCATED data. How can i restore whats lets in the ex-ntfs now unallocated part of the 750 gb external hd?
[14:09] <Ugb3> Okay so anyone knows how i can install any driver for my HD4550 (Knowing that there is no more any catalyst driver for it ?)
[14:09] <mac_15> i'm trying irssi....can someone send me a private messagge? thank you....:-)
[14:09] <Nach0z> Ugb3: go with an older driver
[14:09] <bekks> Ugb3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:09] <dw1> Wispanator: post your problem for best results
[14:09] <ahel> dw1: already done. /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ is empty. And that's not nice
[14:10] <Ugb3> bekks: I read the page, there is nothing about installing it...
[14:10] <OerHeks> Ugb3, use the standard driver, ati 4xxx is unsupported by the new driver, so no advantage 3d functions and such
[14:10] <dw1> ahel: mine's empty
[14:10] <Ugb3> OerHeks: How could i do that ?
[14:10] <Wispanator> Um I'm having problems installing a new graphics driver for my HD 7770. Nothing in the Software Updater works properly, so I'm trying to install the 14.4 Beta but the installer doesn't do anything when I run it.
[14:10] <OerHeks> Ugb3, use the one that comes with the installation
[14:11] <dw1> ahel: my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has 3 lines: [SeatDefaults], user-session=ubuntu, greeter-session=unity-greeter
[14:11] <ahel> What about lightdm.conf ?
[14:11] <Ugb3> OerHeks: How could i do that ? I didn't change anything and there obviously no driver loaded...
[14:12] <OerHeks> Ugb3, well, yesterday you removes the closed ati driver, right?
[14:12] <OerHeks> *removed
[14:12] <bekks> Ugb3: Did you work through the article given? Did you check like the article told you?
[14:13] <Ugb3> OerHeks: I just did a clean install.
[14:13] <Ugb3> bekks: Yep.
[14:13] <bekks> Ugb3: So whats the output of "dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'" ?
[14:14] <Deddokatana> hey, no batt laptop with loose power
[14:14] <Ugb3> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7478473/
[14:14] <Deddokatana> anyway, who was reading, radeon.modeset = 1
[14:14] <dw1> Wispanator: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[14:14] <mac_15> i'm trying irssi....can someone send me a private messagge? thank you....:-)
[14:15] <bekks> Ugb3: Line 6 tells you the free driver is initialized (and loaded).
[14:15] <OerHeks> Ugb3, then you are fine
[14:15] <Ugb3> bekks: Weird as i'm sure i have no acceleration at all, i have like 4 fps and only a part of the screen is used.
[14:16] <Ugb3> OerHeks: Define "fine" ?
[14:16] <OerHeks> Ugb3, fine as in no better driver available.
[14:16] <ahel> dw1: you've been quicker than me, thank you :) edited .conf according to/usr/share/lightdm...But now only asks for login and password. Then still stays there
[14:16] <bekks> Ugb3: "Ugb3: Line 6 tells you the free driver is initialized (and loaded)."
[14:17] <Ugb3> OerHeks: Ok so I can say that my card isn't supported by ubuntu 14.04.
[14:17] <dw1> ahel: so now it starts but you cant login?
[14:17] <Ugb3> bekks: Yeah sure but there is obviously something wrong.
[14:17] <mamece2> I made a mistake using dd. I had a 750 GB NTFS external hd. I started doing dd from my laptop hd to the external dd and i overwrite a bit before doing ctrl+c. Now my ntfs drive has got a lil bit ext4 partition and a lot of UNALLOCATED data. How can i restore whats lets in the ex-ntfs now unallocated part of the 750 gb external hd?
[14:17] <bekks> Ugb3: Because?
[14:17] <BartDude> This is far from urgent, but... Is there a way to disable shadows around windows?
[14:18] <mamece2> Im using testdisk to try to locate the partition but theres only the ext4 that i copied by mistake, the ntfs is not there, its just unallocated data
[14:18] <ahel> dw1: I can enter my login and it accepts or not but then screen flickers and do nothing else
[14:18] <dw1> ahel: try renaming /home/user/.Xauthority
[14:18] <Ugb3> bekks: because it is not working well, only a part of the screen is used (9/10 of it and i can't change the resolution) and i have like 4 fps max.
[14:19] <bekks> Ugb3: Define "not working well"
[14:19] <bekks> Ugb3: and 4 fpss when doing what?
[14:19] <bekks> Ugb3: Running which resolution?
[14:19] <Ugb3> bekks: not well : only a part of the screen is used (9/10 of it and i can't change the resolution) and i have like 4 fps max.
[14:19] <Ugb3> 4fps opening a folder of whatever.
[14:20] <Ugb3> bekks: i don't have choice 1080
[14:20] <bekks> Ugb3: do you use unity?
[14:20] <Ugb3> bekks: Yeah.
[14:20] <bekks> Ugb3: "1080" is a number, not a resolution.
[14:20] <bekks> Ugb3: I suggest using xfce or lxde then.
[14:20] <Ugb3> bekks: 1080 stands for 1920x1080.
[14:21] <Ugb3> bekks: Will i have any acceleration there ?
[14:21] <ahel> dw1: there is no way to reset configs for those packages?
[14:21] <Ugb3> Ugb3: or at least a full screen ?
[14:21] <BartDude> This is far from urgent, but... Is there a way to disable shadows around windows?
[14:21] <bekks> Ugb3: You have a card that old that there is no proprietary driver anymore. Be happy if it works at least. :)
[14:21] <ahel> BartDude: I think it depends on your decorator
[14:22] <Ugb3> bekks: Ok, i guess i should switch back to fedora or windows then.
[14:22] <bekks> Ugb3: Which doesnt magically improve your hardware.
[14:22] <mamece2>  i need a hd expert
[14:22] <Ugb3> bekks: Nope but at least it works.
[14:22] <bekks> mamece2: For what?
[14:23] <BartDude> ahel: Decorator? :P
[14:23] <mamece2> bekks: i did a mistake using dd
[14:24] <jrtappers> mamece2, how bad?
[14:24] <mamece2> jrtappers: bekks: I overwrite my external hd, but just a lil
[14:24] <bekks> mamece2: And our task is to guess what you did? :)
[14:25] <bekks> mamece2: Then restore your backup.
[14:25] <dw1> ahel: sudo apt-get install --reinstall or sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package> -- but removing/renaming .Xauthority is a common fix for login not working
[14:25] <mamece2> bekks: jrtappers  I had a 750 GB NTFS external hd. I started doing dd from my laptop hd to the external dd and i overwrite it a bit before doing ctrl+c. Now my ntfs drive has got a lil bit ext4 partition and a lot of UNALLOCATED data. How can i restore whats lets in the ex-ntfs now unallocated part of the 750 gb external hd?
[14:26] <mamece2> bekks: the external drive was my backup drive.
[14:26] <ahel> dw1: tried renaming but no luck
[14:26] <bekks> mamece2: So you have no data lost. Reformat and create a new backup from your original data.
[14:26] <ahel> And tried even installing reinstalling.
[14:26] <raggg> anyong know how to get two finger right click with a *physical* click (not a tap) working with a clickpad in 14.04?
[14:27] <ahel> Maybe I didn't hit the right packages. Tired...  I want to know if i can recover with foremost from the unallocated data
[14:27] <OerHeks> raggg, 2 finger click, never heard of that
[14:27] <dw1> ahel: i have helped someone in the past that was helped by actually manually recreating .Xauthority
[14:27] <bekks> mamece2: Creating a new backup will be faster.
[14:28] <mamece2> bekks: theres a problem, i dont remember if everything in the external drive was backup
[14:28] <dw1> ahel: this looks like the instructions http://tinyurl.com/m7fb4kj .. but i would probably skip that last sudo chmod step it doesnt seem right
[14:28] <mamece2> bekks: if i could just get the names of the files I could compare and format without remorse
[14:28] <bekks> mamece2: the file names where overwritten.
[14:28] <Ugb3> mamece2 bekks  isn't that possible to resize the partition with some gparted ?
[14:29] <bekks> Ugb3: that will destroy any chance of restoring the data.
[14:29] <Ugb3> bekks: Ok i didnt get that there were data loss.
[14:29] <bekks> However, without a backup, the data can safely considered to not have been worth to beb kept.
[14:30] <mamece2> bekks: I know theres 116 GB that were lost. it was what dd overwritten. But I want to take a look at the rest of the data in the unaloccated space. theres a way to restore unallocated to NTFS (the initial FS)?
[14:30] <bekks> mamece2: you could try to use photorec
[14:30] <ahel> dw1: but then startx wouldn't work!
[14:30] <dw1> ahel: here's the original that helped the other guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386329&p=8699969#post8699969
[14:30] <dw1> ahel: ?
[14:31] <bekks> ahel: startx isnt supposed to work. Start your X server with lightdm/gdm/etc
[14:31] <ahel> If it was a xauthority problem
[14:31] <dw1> ahel: perhaps not
[14:31] <dw1> ahel: dont know
[14:31] <mamece2> bekks: photorec or foremost?
[14:31] <bekks> ahel: Which permissions/owner does .Xauthority have?
[14:31] <ahel> bekks: that's what we're trying to do
[14:31] <bekks> mamece2: Did I write photorec or foremost?
[14:32] <bekks> ahel: "ls -lha ~/.Xauthority"
[14:32] <ahel> Sorry I'm slow on the phone
[14:32] <dw1> ahel: .xsession-errors might have something too
[14:32] <mamece2> bekks: isnt} photorec just for pictures?
[14:32] <bekks> mamece2: No.
[14:32] <leipzig> Hi all.
[14:32] <leipzig> Anyone here experienced with hostapd?
[14:33] <bekks> leipzig: What if someone is?
[14:33] <mamece2> ok let me finnish with testdisk and I will use photorec, tyvm
[14:34] <ahel> bekks: userX proprietary and group read and write.
[14:35] <leipzig> bekks: I have been trying to use ap-hotspot which depends on hostapd, and I keep facing this issue.. http://pastebin.com/xBzEYa1Z
[14:36] <leipzig> bekks, What could be the problem?
[14:36] <bekks> leipzig: I dont see any issues in your post
[14:37] <leipzig> bekks, The issue is that ap-hotspot never completes, and no wireless hotspot is made for some reason.
[14:40] <mamece2> bekks: do you think i can skip the partition search and start recovering files from the unallocated data?
[14:40] <Ugb3> bekks: Ok same problem with lubuntu, everything is slow as vista on a pentium II and it only uses a part of the screen. I think the problem comes from the whole 14.04 and my card...
[14:41] <ahel> Using startx in Nautilus it escalates asking my psw to mount an external HD. Does it suggest anything?
[14:43] <OerHeks> ahel using startx in nautilus ? what makes you think it should do something right?
[14:44] <OerHeks> Ugb3, try resetting your monitor to factory defaults, works sometimes
[14:45] <Ugb3> OerHeks: thanks, but didnt work :(
[14:46] <mamece2>  do you think i can skip the partition search from testdisk and start recovering files from the unallocated data?
[14:47] <ahel> OerHeks: didn't know it was really that bad
[14:49] <Ugb3> Ok, byebye ubuntu too bad you don't like my graphic card :'(
[14:49] <bekks> Ugb3: Just get some recent hardware.
[14:49] <Ugb3> Thank you all who tried to help me.
[14:50] <Ugb3> bekks: I will, but ubuntu used to be a nice way to get "old" hardware working well... and my 7800Gt is older but working better...
[14:50] <Ugb3> Back to fedora.
[14:50] <leipzig> bekks, Any idea what could be the problem?
[14:50] <bekks> leipzig: never tried / needed to try using hostapd, sorry
[14:51] <leipzig> bekk, oh okay. Thanks, anyways..
[14:51] <zM> Hi
[14:51] <ahel> I'm an inch from formatting everything
[14:52] <bekks> ahel: because of?
[14:52] <zM> I have a problem with my /media directory's permissions. I can't open any media unless be su and even as su they're on "read only" mode
[14:53] <leipzig> Okay, then... I guess I'm gonna try to move to fedora too.. :\
[14:53] <ahel> I cannot make it login from lightdm and now I notice that gnome-control center goes segmentation fault
[14:53] <bekks> zM: So which ubuntu are you on?
[14:53] <zM> 14
[14:54] <bekks> zM: 14 what?
[14:54] <zM> The last LTS (14.04 right ?)
[14:55] <bekks> ahel: do you have enough disk space?
[14:55] <bekks> ahel: And whoch ubuntu are you on exactly?
[14:55] <bekks> *which
[14:56] <ahel> I just updated to 14.04
[14:57] <ahel> Yeah I'm backing up my things on an external HD
[14:57] <mamece2> bekks: I cant create an image for the unallocated space in my external hd. what can i do?
[14:57] <bekks> mamece2: Define "i cant create an image"
[14:59] <OerHeks> mamece2, for restoring/repairing NTFS i would use UBcd with free tools, making an image of unallocated space is not easy.
[14:59] <mamece2> bekks: when i use testdisk to create an image the option are there just for data with FS defined
[15:00] <bekks> mamece2: Yeah - and testdisk isnt photorec.
[15:01] <mamece2> bekks: i thought photorec worked only with images
[15:01] <Ugb3> bekks: There must be something wrong somewhere in the last ubuntu, even the fedora installer works better, it is full screen and smooth as butter, i wish it could be like that with ubuntu.
[15:01] <bekks> mamece2: So create an image - I dont see the problem.
[15:01] <OerHeks> mamece2, you've asked it before, why do you ignore answers?
[15:02] <bekks> Ugb3: The installer is irrelevant at all times.
[15:02] <mamece2> bekks: when i try to create an image I cant choose the unallocated space
[15:02] <mamece2> OerHeks: Im doing what you suggest
[15:02] <bekks> mamece2: Why not? Create a full image using dd.
[15:02] <raggg> im getting ~60MB/s write speed on a sata 2 SSD, does that seem slow or is that ok?
[15:02] <bekks> mamece2: Operate on that full image only.
[15:02] <mamece2> bekks: ok
[15:02] <bekks> raggg: thats ok.
[15:02] <raggg> bekks: cool thanks
[15:03] <Geo> Hi, want to run this by you... I currently have an 80gb and a 60gb hard drive mirroring each other for /home (60gb), and the remaining 20gb on the 80gb as / . I am about to upgrade the drives and bought 2x 160gb drives. I still plan to mirror /home, but with same-sized drives, I'm hesitant to mirror / , in case mdadm has an issue at some point and I can't boot my machine.
[15:03] <Geo> What are your thoughts on how to divvy up the drive spacing?
[15:03] <Ugb3> bekks: I coul'nt event type in real time in the ubuntu installer...
[15:03] <bekks> Geo: Thats nonsense. You are afraif of mdadm mirroring and you want to not mirror / because of that? :)
[15:04] <bekks> Geo: Then why do you want to mirror /home if you are afraid of losing /home then?
[15:05] <Geo> bekks: eh?
[15:05] <raggg> bekks: my hdd is writing faster than the ssd, is that normal?
[15:05] <Geo> I think you misunderstand
[15:05] <bekks> Geo: Either trust in mdadm and mirror everything, or dont trust in it, and dont mirror anything.
[15:06] <Geo> If /home doesn't come up, my machine (remotely admin'd) can still come up, I can fix what didn't come up.
[15:06] <bekks> Geo: Wrong. :)
[15:06] <Geo> If / doesn't come up, the machine never turns on, and I can't get to it
[15:06] <asarch> How can I debug Xen kernel?
[15:06] <bekks> Geo: How are you supposed to log in your user without a /home ?
[15:06] <asarch> It only crashes with  no "explanation" :-(
[15:06] <Geo> bekks: because /home doesn't disapear... it just mounts, empty under /
[15:06] <asarch> This machine, however, does support Xen, it used to work fine with OpenSuse
[15:07] <bekks> Geo: And you will not be able to log in since /home/user/ does not exist.
[15:07] <patchy_85> hello?
[15:07] <bekks> Geo: So redesign your strategy.
[15:07] <Geo> bekks: lets pretend it does to get past this conversation- it has worked for me for the past five years just fine
[15:07] <Geo> I'm asking about /
[15:07] <patchy_85> this is my first time trying IRC, it's all quite new to me
[15:07] <bekks> Geo: If you can, mirror it.
[15:08] <bekks> Geo: Especially when you are already mirroring /home
[15:08] <patchy_85> you guys can see my messages right?
[15:08] <sl33k_> My 14.04 is very laggy. So was earlier 10.04. What is it depend upon? Could I make any hardware changes to see this go away?
[15:08] <bekks> sl33k_: So which hardware do you actually have?
[15:08] <Ugb3> patchy_85: No we don't see your message.
[15:09] <patchy_85> @Ugb3 I don't know why, did I misconfigure something?
[15:09] <Ugb3> patchy_85: This was a joke, we can read you well :)
[15:09] <patchy_85> oh lol xD
[15:09] <davros_> can anyone tell me why my desktop is black and I'm unable to open any applications after restarting? http://i.imgur.com/wjc0Pc5.png
[15:10] <davros_> this happened earlier and I had to reinstall
[15:10] <patchy_85> okay, just a quick question is this the irc channel for ubuntu only? does it also include its variants?
[15:10] <patchy_85> because I'm a xubuntu user
[15:10] <davros_> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 in parallels
[15:11] <bekks> !raring | davros_
[15:11] <sl33k_> bekks: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6570  @ 2.10GHz on a Dell Vostro 1015
[15:12] <bekks> sl33k_: Then you just have to live with it - that thing is about 5 years old. You could use xfce or lxde, too.
[15:13] <sl33k_> bekks: You mean core 2 duo processor?
[15:13] <bekks> sl33k_: I mean your T6570.
[15:13] <sl33k_> bekks: Would I have to reinstall the os for it? Can I switch from gnome to xfce without much hassle and work and installing?
[15:14] <bekks> sl33k_: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[15:14] <kupo_> herro ubuntu
[15:15] <Ugb3> sl33k_: It seems that know you have to have a recent computer to use ubuntu with unity.
[15:15] <sl33k_> bekks: This package changes just the desktop environment without anything underlying, correct?
[15:15] <davros_> does anyone have any clue why my desktop is black? I can tell the windows are there because if I click in the right place the menu bar displays the correct application name, but I can't see anything
[15:15] <sl33k_> Ugb3: What is unity? desktop environment?
[15:16] <Ugb3> sl33k_: kind of yeah.
[15:16] <kupo_> graphic error
[15:16] <bekks> davros_: You have an unsupported Ubuntu release. Install a supported release first.
[15:16] <kupo_> yeah. i'd try others instead of unity
[15:16] <bekks> sl33k_: Yes.
[15:16] <sl33k_> bekks: Ok i will try those commands. I hope nothing goes wrong so as to warrant a backup...
[15:17] <jakhi> how can i defragment an ext2/3/4 filesystem?
[15:17] <bekks> sl33k_: I assume you already have a backup. If you dont, you dont have to care, since you dont consider your data being worth to be kept then.
[15:17] <bekks> jakhi: you dont have to.
[15:18] <jakhi> just in case...
[15:18] <bekks> jakhi: You dont have to.
[15:18] <jakhi> assume i need to
[15:18] <dw1> sl33k_: i use the 'classic gnome' which can be installed with sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
[15:18] <Ugb3> jakhi: You won't.
[15:18] <bekks> jakhi: I know you dont.
[15:18] <Ugb3> jakhi: There is no such fragmentation with ext systems.
[15:19] <dw1> sl33k_: http://askubuntu.com/a/65087 -- its easier on the comp than unity
[15:19] <patchy_86> is this irc channel only for ubuntu or for all ubuntu variants and flavors?
[15:19] <bazhang> http://linkpot.net/behead/   jakhi
[15:19] <jakhi> i've heard that fsck also consolidates the filesytem
[15:19] <dw1> sl33k_: just install that package i mentioned and choose Gnome (Metacity) at login by clicking the ubuntu icon next to login box
[15:19] <sl33k_> thanks for the tip dw1. checking the link
[15:20] <bekks> jakhi: you still dont need to do that using ext filesystems.
[15:20] <sl33k_> dw1: What happens if i cancel a install at command line with ctrl-c. safe?
[15:20] <dw1> sl33k_: should avoid it
[15:21] <OerHeks> patchy_86, onlu ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu, no derivates
[15:21] <bekks> sl33k_: Not safe.
[15:21] <Ugb3> sl33k_: If you like Gnome give Fedora a try, my computer is just unusable with Unity but super smooth with fedora and Gome 3, or if you want to stay in a ubuntu-like distrib try elementary os.
[15:21] <bekks> Ugb3: Or just install gnome on Ubuntu.
[15:21] <dw1> Ugb3: you can run many other desktops than unity on ubuntu ..
[15:21] <bekks> Ugb3: Or use xfce, lxde, etc.
[15:22] <dw1> Ugb3: http://tinyurl.com/ubdesk
[15:22] <patchy_86> which desktop environment do you guys use?
[15:22] <Ugb3> bekks: Yeah but gnome on ubuntu is not as smooth imo and xfce etc... isn't gnome.
[15:22] <dw1> i use gnome-session-flashback aka gnome classic
[15:22] <patchy_86> I used to use xfce but since I've learned how to use i3 I can't go back :P
[15:22] <bekks> Ugb3: You just said that "gnome isnt gnome" - I consider that you have no clue what you are talking about at that point.
[15:23] <patchy_86> tiling window managers are just so much more comfortable
[15:23] <patchy_86> does anyone have tried i3 or awesomewm yet?
[15:23] <Ugb3> xfce etc... are not gnome i mean. bekks
[15:23] <Ugb3> and gome on ubuntu suck imho.
[15:23] <bekks> Ugb3: then again: you can use gnome on ubuntu. And watch your language.
[15:24] <Ugb3> bekks: Sorry, yeah you can but once again i think it's not that polished.
[15:24] <OerHeks> Ugb3, no need to rant, this is a support channel, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat. you have old hardware, that does not apply to everybody.
[15:25] <Ugb3> It apply to sl33k_ whose i was replying to.
[15:25] <bekks> Ugb3: And what do you need eye candy for, actually? For nothing, in fact. The point is, there is no reason in suggesting various distros when the same software can be run the same way and can be configured the same way on ubuntu, too.
[15:25] <Ugb3> Ok everybody leave me aline.
[15:25] <m1dnight> Can i ask questions about xfce here as well?
[15:25] <Ugb3> alone*
[15:25] <bekks> Ugb3: Thats hardly possible in one of the largest channels on freenode :)
[15:25] <bekks> m1dnight: Yes.
[15:25] <Ugb3> I just was replying to sl33k_ and giving my own advice no need to flame me.
[15:26] <m1dnight> well, I'm trying to make sure xfce does not show previous windows on startup. well, they are not really "previous" since it shows some session each time
[15:26] <bekks> Ugb3: If you think other opinions than yours are "flaming you", it is you who should leave us alone, actually.
[15:26] <m1dnight> I have disabled it when I click shutdown, but it still shows me the sessin
[15:26] <m1dnight> Any clue how I can tell it "do not open anything" ?
[15:26] <sl33k_> Ugb3: I am open to all. Maybe will first check light buntus then fedora.
[15:28] <dw1> fedora = blasphemy :p
[15:28] <bekks> dw1: pain is a good teacher ;)
[15:30] <nwg> migrating from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS.  how does one find out what happened to a package that existed in 12.04 and no longer exists in 14.04??
[15:30] <bekks> nwg: It wasnt ported to 14.04 - thats what happened.
[15:31] <asarch> This is the dmesg's output: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/376378
[15:32] <nwg> libreadline-ruby is the package name
[15:32] <asarch> This is lscpi's: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/376381
[15:32] <raul7821> Hi guys, is there a simple preview application(no gimp) that can add text to images, or draw rectangles
[15:32] <raul7821> on top of images
[15:32] <asarch> These are with "normal" kernel (not the Xen's one)
[15:32] <OerHeks> !find libreadline-ruby
[15:33] <OerHeks> raul7821, gpaint can do that, type 'paint' in softwarecenter to see all paint applications
[15:33] <asarch> Can you create a bridge interface along with Network Manager?
[15:34] <raul7821> OerHeks:perfect. thanks a lot
[15:35] <micros> does anyone know of a tool or set of tools to be able to configure the wireless interface with a web page over an adhoc wireless network?  -- no keyboard after the initial service installation... i have seen some neat smartphone apps for this, but would prefer http. thoughts?
[15:36] <ikonia> micros: configure network on your ubuntu machine ?
[15:36] <micros> i am playing with wedmin now, but i dont know if i can customize the pages and only show one page of the entire set. - networking.
[15:36] <micros> yes
[15:36] <ikonia> micros: thats what gnome network manager is there fore
[15:36] <ikonia> handy little icon in the top right of your screen
[15:36] <micros> yes, but i dont have a monitor or keyboard
[15:37] <micros> embedded system
[15:37] <ikonia> micros: what hardware platform is this ?
[15:37] <micros> so i would like to do it remotely
[15:37] <micros> raspberry pi
[15:37] <ikonia> then it's not ubuntu
[15:37] <ikonia> as ubuntu isn't on the pi
[15:37] <micros> true.
[15:37] <micros> linux in general, sir.
[15:37] <micros> sorry, i wasnt clear
[15:37] <ikonia> micros: so it's not for this channel
[15:37] <OerHeks> rasp pi is arm6, ubuntu needs arm7 +
[15:37] <ikonia> no problem, it's not for this channel then
[15:37] <micros> ok, thanks.
[15:38] <roler> I have two servers running an identical 14.04 ubuntu. One has the php5-ffmpeg package installed, the other says this. and they both have the same /etc/apt/sources.list Package php5-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package… any idea??
[15:42] <confesstov> hello
[15:42] <Joost`> Is there a signal that my program can somehow catch so that it is alerted when ubuntu wakes from suspend?
[15:43] <confesstov> is there a way to gather the email lists of everyone at MIT
[15:43] <lucian> help! ubuntu 14.04 wil not boot! anymore after update.. keeps saying "cryptsetup: lvm not avilable" doesn't even let me drop to busybox just hangs... i dont have lvm but the system's partition is luks encrypted.
[15:44] <compdoc> lucian, you encrypted your drive?
[15:45] <lucian> i tried doing update-initramfs -k all -c -v but it kept saying fatal error some tmp file cant be found!
[15:45] <bekks> confesstov: how is that related to Ubuntu?
[15:45] <lucian> yeah the drive is encrypted with luks and because im in an older kernel i can still get in
[15:46] <lucian> depmod: WARNING: could not open /tmp/mkinitramfs_*********** blah blah blah
[15:47] <lucian> ok so here's that i tried to do with fix
[15:47] <lucian> sudo update-initramfs -v -c -k 3.2.0-61-generic
[15:48] <lucian> depmod: WARNING: could not open /tmp/mkinitramfs_HDOATB/lib/modules/3.2.0-61-generic/modules.builtin: No such file or directory
[15:48] <lucian> can someone explain to me why there's some fatel no file found?
[15:50] <sl33k_> ok guys I had to hard shutdown my box because of OS freeze in the middle of xubuntu desktop. What do I do to install again? What happens to the previous incomplete download; it showed 55% complete when I shutted it down.
[15:50] <sl33k_> alt+printscreen+ REISUB did not work.
[15:50] <holstein> sl33k_: i run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and address any errors that may come up.. then, i just remove, reinstall, or install what is necessary
[15:51] <kostkon> sl33k_, if it was still downloading you should be fine
[15:52] <lucian> linux-image-3.2.0-61-generic is just nothing but a hassle with encrypted partitions
[15:52] <lucian> has there been any fixes as of yet?
[15:52] <lucian> some sort of hook problem
[15:54] <sl33k_> Ok how do I switch to xubuntu which seemingly installed fine?
[15:54] <dw1> sl33k_: probably by clicking on the ubuntu icon next to the username box on login page
[15:55] <dw1> sl33k_: then a list should appear
[15:55] <sophocles> hello
[15:55] <sophocles> i have a lot of problems with wifi and ubuntu for 2wire router
[15:56] <sophocles> it keeps getting disconnected while my win8 has no problem
[15:56] <sl33k_> dw1: The login screen appears even after you lock the screen? I will look up the combination to lock screen...
[15:56] <robincook> join #cubieboard
[15:56] <dw1> sl33k_: Ctrl-Alt-L will lock the screen, but no you have to log out
[15:57] <OerHeks> robincook, leave #cubieboard
[15:57] <robincook> OerHeks, ah, why say that?
[15:57] <lucian> i need to get rid of linux-image-3.2.0-61-generic but the problem is its being treated as if it doesnt exist.. cant even locate it from the repos
[15:57] <OerHeks> robincook, as we like your spam ... not
[15:57] <lucian> cant even find it in synaptic :/
[15:58] <dw1> lucian: what version of Ubuntu
[15:58] <sl33k_> great thanks
[15:58] <robincook> OerHeks, sorry, I don't get you. I am Chinese, that a main reason I am interesting in cb.
[15:58] <lucian> dw1: 14.04
[15:58] <dw1> lucian: why are you on such a weird kernel :-/
[15:59] <lucian> dw1: i dont know it just showed up with that number
[15:59] <lucian> in  /ls boot
[15:59] <dw1> lucian: sudo apt-get install linux-signed-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[15:59] <dw1> lucian: err
[15:59] <sl33k_> ctrl+alt+del shows only logout option. Why does not is show up restart? What is the shortcut to restart os?
[15:59] <lucian> i dont know why there's a initrd.img-3.2.0-61-generic ibn /boot
[15:59] <dw1> lucian: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[15:59] <lucian> or how it got there
[16:00] <dw1> lucian: thats the one you should be on
[16:00] <lucian> dw1: thankx, yeah i dont know what happened
[16:01] <dw1> sl33k_: are you in xubuntu now?
[16:01] <dw1> sl33k_: xfce, rather :)
[16:01] <sl33k_> dw1: no
[16:02] <dw1> sl33k_: not sure bout graphic mode but gnome-session-quit in terminal might work
[16:02] <sl33k_> how much big is xfce package install?
[16:02] <bekks> sl33k_: "sudo init 6" is the shortcut to restart the OS.
[16:02] <dw1> sl33k_: for logout
[16:02] <dw1> sl33k_: it should tell you when you use the apt-get install command
[16:02] <sl33k_> I am confused. Logout just switches accounts?
[16:03] <lucian> how do i get rid of this 3.2.0-61 image?
[16:03] <dw1> sl33k_: yea just brings to login screen
[16:03] <lucian> apt-get can't locate it
[16:03] <dw1> lucian: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[16:03] <lucian> it wont find it
[16:03] <dw1> lucian: dpkg -l | grep 3.2.0
[16:03] <dw1> lucian: use that packagename
[16:04] <lucian> dw1: that didn't find anything other than 3.2.21-1
[16:04] <dw1> lucian: dpkg -r <package> also works but should be the same as apt-get remove
[16:04] <dw1> lucian: oh you installed from source ?
[16:05] <lucian> dw1: yes i never actually created my own kernal
[16:05] <lucian> kernel*
[16:05] <lucian> so i dont know how this got there
[16:05] <lucian> but i'd like to find it
[16:05] <lucian> and purge it out correctly
[16:06] <dw1> lucian: wont be easy without a package manager
[16:06] <SonikkuAmerica> lucian: You can also try Ubuntu Tweak from tualatrix's PPA ( !PPA risk )
[16:06] <dw1> lucian: checkinstall is a utility that creates packages from source files .. so if you download the source for that exact kernel and install it again with checkinstall you can then remove the package and it will remove everything ...
[16:07] <lucian> dw1: it cant locate anything thats 3.2.0-61-generic
[16:07] <leipzig> Thanks everyone for your help! I was finally able to solve my hotspot issue! :)
[16:07] <dw1> lucian: or you can look at the install process and manually reverse .
[16:07] <ikonia> you should NOT be using checkinstall to build kernel packages
[16:07] <lucian> this is all way over my head
[16:08] <sl33k_> How does logout differ from restart?
[16:08] <lucian> cant i just get rid of a simple kernel image
[16:08] <dw1> lucian: well just leave it there and switch to the latest its just a few bytes space :p
[16:08] <ikonia> lucian: how did you install the kernel image ?
[16:09] <lucian> oh i see whats going on
[16:09] <sophocles_>  i have a lot of problems with wifi and ubuntu for 2wire router
[16:09] <sophocles_>  it keeps getting disconnected while my win8 has no problem
[16:10] <lucian> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic is actually from 12.04 precise(12.04)LTS but it should have been removed during installation
[16:10] <lucian> during a clean full install of 14.04(LTS)
[16:11] <ikonia> lucian: it's not a clean install
[16:11] <ikonia> lucian: if there is a 12.04 kernel there - it's not a clean install
[16:11] <ikonia> it's an upgrade of some sort
[16:11] <lucian> ikonia: yeah so why did it upgrade when it should have fulling installed
[16:12] <ikonia> lucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade
[16:12] <lucian> anyways - i need to remove it it or I'll go OCD crazy
[16:12] <ikonia> lucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade
[16:13] <lucian> ikonia: no i think what happen was, during installation I didn't actuall 'format' the boot partition so i think thats why the old kernel stayed
[16:13] <ikonia> lucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade
[16:13] <sixwheeledbeast> it can only be a upgrade surely?
[16:13] <lucian> i forgot to format the /boot partition so thats why
[16:13] <ikonia> lucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade
[16:13] <lucian> now i remember
[16:13] <dw1> sophocles_: what network card? maybe can google up a solution
[16:13] <ikonia> I'm not interested now
[16:13] <lucian> ikonia: scroll up
[16:14] <ikonia> it shouldn't be this hard to get information from someone asking for help
[16:14] <dw1> sophocles_: lspci | grep Network might show it
[16:14] <sophocles_> thanks, let me checko
[16:14] <lucian> so i believe the kernel is nowhere in the / system but still lingering in /boot
[16:15] <ikonia> lucian: the kernel is not in /
[16:15] <ikonia> kernels do not live in /
[16:15] <sophocles_> dw1: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[16:15] <lucian> so if it just rm those vmlinuzes out
[16:15] <lucian> should be fine
[16:15] <ikonia> you have a screwed up system
[16:15] <dw1> sophocles_: same as mine.
[16:15] <ikonia> no
[16:15] <ikonia> more so due to encyrption
[16:15] <ikonia> I would strongly advise you not to remove ANYTHING
[16:15] <ikonia> at this time
[16:15] <sl33k_> When starting xfce it asked - default config or one panel? What doe it imply? What are panels exacly, pardon my terms ignorance...
[16:16] <gccster> guys i'm running ubuntu 14.04 and lamp and even tho i have in php.ini display_errors = off i get Unknown: mysql_connect(): The mysql extension is deprecated and will be removed in the future:
[16:16] <dw1> sophocles_: didnt have any similar issues tho
[16:16] <sophocles_> hmmm
[16:16] <sl33k_> I chose default config btw
[16:16] <sophocles_> i thought it was the 2wire because i have no problem outside of it ie starbucks, coffeebean
[16:16] <ikonia> gccster: mysql connect is being replaced by PDO as a php function
[16:16] <sophocles_> 2wire is pretty pathetic system but i'm not the master of this house
[16:17] <dw1> sophocles_: lsmod | grep ath = http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479084/ ?
[16:17] <gccster> ikonia, no parameter changes?
[16:17] <sl33k_> How to be comfortable with xfce? Where are the wifi widget at top? What is workspace?
[16:17] <ikonia> gccster: it's a totally different function
[16:18] <gccster> ikonia, i would like to use the deprecated but cant stop the error messages to show up
[16:18] <ikonia> hence "unknown function"
[16:18] <ikonia> gccster: it's an error as it's not installed
[16:18] <sl33k_> When starting xfce it asked - default config or one panel? What doe it imply? What are panels exacly, pardon my terms ignorance...
[16:18] <sophocles_> grep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747/9084/: No such file or directory
[16:19] <gccster> ikonia, how can i fix it?
[16:19] <dw1> gccster: display_errors = off just means it shouldnt show in browser but will show in the logs
[16:19] <gccster> dw1, its still in browser
[16:19] <sl33k_> dw1: xfce feels nimble. thanks for the suggestion!
[16:20] <dw1> sophocles_: lsmod | grep ath
[16:20] <linuxiOSgeek> nick /register linuxiOSgeek
[16:20] <dw1> sl33k_: i didnt suggest xfce i suggested gnome-session-flashback :)
[16:20] <sl33k_> oh :)
[16:20] <dw1> gccster: perhaps the script turned display_errors on then
[16:20] <linuxiOSgeek> What version of Ubuntu are you guys running?
[16:21] <sixwheeledbeast> the latest
[16:21] <sl33k_> If anyones used xfce. where is the wifi widget?
[16:21] <linuxiOSgeek> Are you guys part of Canonical?
[16:21] <ikonia> linuxiOSgeek: this is a communty channel
[16:21] <ikonia> linuxiOSgeek: mixture of everyone in here
[16:21] <linuxiOSgeek> OK
[16:21] <dw1> linuxiOSgeek: some are, I think. see topic. 'official support'
[16:22] <linuxiOSgeek> Why does Linux not require defragmentation?
[16:22] <ikonia> linuxiOSgeek: file system works different
[16:22] <bazhang> !defrag | linuxiOSgeek
[16:22] <sophocles_> how do i paste it to the bin from command line and grep?
[16:22] <sophocles_> come again?
[16:22] <k1l> linuxiOSgeek: the ext4 filesystem got a journal. that defrags the filesystem right in time
[16:23] <linuxiOSgeek> Your ext4 filesystem link is broken
[16:23] <gccster> dw1, if i turn it on it shows DEPRECATED warning  now it says Unknown: mysql_connect
[16:23] <ALourenco> Hello. I need to patch module mac80211, can anyone help me?
[16:23] <k1l> !pastebinit | sophocles_
[16:23] <dw1> gccster: try ##php
[16:23] <linuxiOSgeek> Ubottu's link is broken, pleas fix
[16:24] <freijon> bazhang: that URL seems broken
[16:24] <linuxiOSgeek> Which OS should I use on my ASUS K53E, Windows 8, or Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:24] <dw1> sophocles_: if youre in the gui interface select the text then middle mouse button on the destination
[16:25] <ikonia> linuxiOSgeek: it's all about what you need/want and what you are comfortable with
[16:25] <ikonia> linuxiOSgeek: totally up to you - see which you like best
[16:25] <linuxiOSgeek> OK
[16:25] <k1l> linuxiOSgeek: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: ubuntu :)
[16:25] <sophocles_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479118/
[16:25] <sophocles_> thanks
[16:25] <linuxiOSgeek> Do you use iOS on your Apple devices, or do you not have any iOS devices?
[16:26] <linuxiOSgeek> iOS uses the Linux kernel too!
[16:26] <OerHeks> linuxiOSgeek, this is ubuntu support, join the apple channel for ios issues
[16:26] <k1l> linuxiOSgeek: for not ubuntu related chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:26] <tking0036> Thats not even true either.. They use the BSD mach kernel
[16:26] <linuxiOSgeek> No, Cocoa Touch
[16:27] <dw1> sophocles_: looks similar to mine .. wonder what the 3k is for
[16:27] <sophocles_> dw1: greek to me
[16:27] <dw1> sophocles_: i might suggest changing router channel to one with less interference, but if windows works
[16:27] <dw1> sophocles_: i guess its for the bluetooth
[16:28] <sophocles_> oh well, i mean it's working now, just spotty
[16:28] <sophocles_> might be the repeater
[16:28] <sophocles_> thanks tho
[16:28] <linuxiOSgeek> I will join your other channel for non Ubuntu users, OK?
[16:29] <stemid> I messed up my sudoers config so I thought gksu would save me but gksu nautilus just returns 1. same with gksu rm /etc/sudoers.d/my_broken_file
[16:29] <bekks> linuxiOSgeek: Which "other channel"? :)
[16:29] <linuxiOSgeek> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:30] <linuxiOSgeek> Does Linux require rebooting as much as Windows does?
[16:30] <nwg> linux very rarely requires reboot
[16:31] <dw1> sophocles_: there could be some information in /var/log/syslog
[16:31] <stemid> pkexec visudo did what I needed
[16:33] <dw1> would raising TTL make disconnections due to interference less frequent?
[16:34] <sophocles_> how do i pipe into a text file? what is the command
[16:34] <perdomwx> echo test > test.txt
[16:35] <freijon> >> appends, > overwrites
[16:36] <dw1> sophocles_: echo "test" > file;  cat file | grep something > file2
[16:36] <sophocles_> ic
[16:36] <dw1> sophocles_: "I went thru the same recently the only thing that helped was to change the channel of the wireless router. After that no more drops."
[16:36] <sophocles_> what do you mean cahnge the channel of the wireless router
[16:37] <sophocles_> i don't have access to the router, that's the other problem, i would try hacking into the admin page
[16:37] <dw1> sophocles_: yeah you probably can
[16:37] <sl33k_> Is xfce xubuntu the same?
[16:37] <daftykins> same as what?
[16:37] <sl33k_> and*
[16:37] <sophocles_> the roomate, the person who owns the router, is not being very decent about it
[16:38] <sophocles_> ok i will look into that. thanks guys. i didn't mean to say i use win8, i only bought it bc i had a job interview. ubuntu is #1
[16:39] <daftykins> sl33k_: xfce is a desktop environment that can be installed on ubuntu. xubuntu is a download of ubuntu which comes with xfce as default instead of unity. it is lighter weight and runs better with less resources than unity
[16:39] <dw1> sophocles_: http://google.com/search?q=change+channel+router -- if you type route in terminal it should say the 'gateway' IP which is probably the same IP you need to browse to to access admin page
[16:39] <ikonia> sophocles_: you're free to use what you want, it doesn't matter to us what you like best, no need to apologise for using windows
[16:39] <sophocles_> ;)
[16:39] <daftykins> just don't ask us to support it :)
[16:40] <Yelu> sophocles_, if your roommate's router had ethernet plugs, you could use another wireless router you'd control (or simply plug your machine directly).
[16:40] <ALourenco> Hello. I need to patch module mac80211, can anyone help me?
[16:40] <sl33k_> daftykins: so to install xubuntu I will have to remove my current install or run it on the vm?
[16:40] <dw1> sophocles_: then either try the user/pass written on the router or google the model for default login
[16:40] <daftykins> sl33k_: no, it can also be installed via the metapackage 'xubuntu-desktop'
[16:40] <sl33k_> my install is ubuntu
[16:41] <sl33k_> daftykins: essentially that package runs on top of ubuntu
[16:41] <sl33k_> Am I on the same page?
[16:41] <daftykins> sl33k_: packages are software for installing. it installs :)
[16:41] <sl33k_> :)
[16:41] <dw1> sl33k_: youre basically on xubuntu :p
[16:42] <OerHeks> !purexfce
[16:42] <dw1> sl33k_: until you install another desktop and try that ! :)
[16:43] <kupo_> anyone try lxde qt yet?
[16:43] <kupo_> also. whats recent lxde ppa? installed lxde not lubuntu
[16:43] <dbugger> Hi
[16:43] <17SAAFDV4> hi
[16:44] <dbugger> Is anyone having trouble with 14.04, where the youtube videos dont show any audio for the first 4 seconds?
[16:44] <dw1> kupo_: http://askubuntu.com/a/65131
[16:44] <dw1> dbugger: i used to have that problem
[16:44] <dw1> dbugger: it worked itself out.. :/
[16:44] <17SAAFDV4> 天才!
[16:44] <kupo_> thanks
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !jp | 17SAAFDV4
[16:45] <dbugger> dw1, I had it on 13.10 and now with 14.04 goes on
[16:45] <dbugger> weird
[16:45] <17SAAFDV4> sorry ;o
[16:46] <kupo_> yeah. dont want lubuntu. lxde is fine. just wanted ppa for updates for it. i shold try the new qt version. heard good things
[16:47] <dw1> dbugger: at the bottom of youtube if you click Try something new it might offer you HTML5 as the default player - maybe it will help
[16:47] <ALourenco> ok, screw this. goodbye
[16:48] <dannyedwrds> I have been trying to load the ubuntu live cd with a USB drive using unetbottin and when I boot it up after the ubuntu boot screen it get stuck at a black screen with no back light
[16:48] <dw1> dannyedwrds: I guess you can use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to load terminal, and there is a problem with teh graphic driver
[16:48] <sl33k_> This was what I was asking http://askubuntu.com/questions/91380/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntuxfce-and-xubuntu
[16:49] <sl33k_> so yeah I got satisfying answers ;)
[16:49] <geraldbrent> dannyedwrds, I would try nomodeset.
[16:49] <dannyedwrds> dw1: so when I get into the terminal where do I go from there
[16:49] <dbugger> dw1, it is already on HTML5. The thing is, it doesnt happen just on YouTube anyway
[16:50] <dw1> dbugger: i found skipping ahead and back fixed it..
[16:50] <dannyedwrds> geraldbrent: there is no choice for nomodeset ive already tried looking for it that little simble at the boot screen is not there at all
[16:50] <dw1> dbugger: but yeah i think it happened in vlc too.. hm
[16:50] <monkay> Hey, anyone got airmon-ng work in Ubuntu 14? I only get the error msg ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS) failed: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[16:50] <dw1> dannyedwrds: good question...
[16:50] <monkay> When trying to airodump-ng mon0
[16:51] <saimoele> hiù
[16:51] <saimoele> hi
[16:51] <dw1> dannyedwrds: i suppose you could install a driver package. do you have an add-on video card ?
[16:52] <dannyedwrds> dw1: negative I have a ATI Radeon HD 8400 in my laptop
[16:53] <dw1> dannyedwrds: /var/log/Xorg.0.log may have more info about the exact issue, if you can view it
[16:53] <xeno> Can I get a hint why there aren't simple packages chef-client and chef-server on Ubuntu?
[16:53] <ikonia> because chef is not simple
[16:54] <xeno> That is not a reasonable answer.
[16:54] <ikonia> it is
[16:54] <ikonia> you want a simple version of something that's not simple
[16:54] <dw1> dannyedwrds: installing fglrx-installer might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[16:54] <ikonia> it's unreasonble to ask for something like that
[16:54] <dw1> dannyedwrds: then you might get to desktop by running 'lightdm'
[16:55] <dannyedwrds> dw1: but how would I install graphics drivers if I can't even see the screen
[16:55] <dw1> dannyedwrds: if you press ctrl-alt-f1 at the black screen you might get a terminal
[16:55] <dannyedwrds> dw1: ok ill give it a try
[17:01] <MagicMadJam> is this the help channel?
[17:01] <geraldbrent> Yes indeed!
[17:01] <MagicMadJam> Well, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and I dont seem to have sound
[17:01] <GTRsdk> So I switched to a new motherboard & CPU and now my Ubuntu doesn't boot
[17:01] <GTRsdk> Windows 7 does though
[17:01] <TheHypnotist> I was wondering, having recently been learning about windows 2012 server and all of it's active directory and many other features for managing a network.. Are there solution likes this for ubuntu / linux in general ?
[17:02] <ikonia> GTRsdk: need more info than "won't boot"
[17:02] <GTRsdk> but after I get past GRUB all I see for Ubuntu us just a white _ on a black background
[17:02] <MagicMadJam> I followed the basic troubleshooting and alsamixer finds everything ok and gives me a slide board but in sound preferences, I only have a dummy output... ideas?
[17:02] <GTRsdk> no signs of loading
[17:02] <ikonia> GTRsdk: boot into single user mode, remove the boot spash
[17:02] <ikonia> splash
[17:03] <GTRsdk> ikonia: What do I do at GRUB to get into that?
[17:03] <ikonia> the easy way is to use the recovery menu item from grub
[17:04] <MagicMadJam> geraldbrent: ideas?
[17:04] <GTRsdk> ah so then that should get me to the "enter root password for maintainance or press Control+D to continue"?
[17:04] <ikonia> it shouldn't ask you for the root password as there is no root password in ubuntu
[17:05] <dannyedwrds> Well I wasn't able to get into the terminal at all
[17:05] <GTRsdk> alright. I'll reboot and try it.
[17:06] <MagicMadJam> I just dont get why it says dummy output.
[17:06] <dannyedwrds> Well after the boot screen is still at a black screen with no back light and I can't get into the terminal and am not able to get to the terminal
[17:06] <MagicMadJam> and speech dispatcher is disabled
[17:10] <LonelyDanbo> what maps a USB gamepad's controls to the mouse cursor by default? I can't seem to search for results on the net.
[17:10] <LonelyDanbo> BTW, I'm using Xubuntu (but #xubuntu isn't responding to my problem
[17:15] <MagicMadJam> Back, force alsa to reload didnt work
[17:15] <MagicMadJam> I still have a dummy output even though alsamixer in terminal says I have intel
[17:16] <geraldbrent> :(
[17:18] <LonelyDanbo> ok. it's not the NES emulator that's mapping my gamepad controls to strange crap, because I just uninstalled it and it's still moving the damned mouse cursor.
[17:18] <MagicMadJam> reboot?
[17:19] <MagicMadJam> LonelyDanbo: reboot?
[17:19] <LonelyDanbo> oh. do I need to do that too? k.
[17:20] <MagicMadJam> LonelyDanbo: not entirely sure but probably would help.
[17:20] <Jiraffe_> What does this error mean? bit.ly/1oB5crX ?
[17:21] <LonelyDanbo> Nope. gamepad still moving the mouse cursor.
[17:22] <LonelyDanbo> buttons do strange things too. one pastes my clipboard. the other does mouse right-click.
[17:23] <cere> ciao
[17:24] <LonelyDanbo> I didn't know Xubuntu had a default installed to handle gamepads.
[17:24] <random_user12312> Hello, how to run a graphic program as root? kdesu and sudo dont do it right.
[17:24] <MagicMadJam> LonelyDanbo: im not sure. that's not good. It seems that the nes emulator or whatever you install remapped your keyboard keys, you might want to search hwo to restore your system's keymappings
[17:24] <bekks> random_user12312: sudo messed up .Xauthority permissions,, and gksu and kdesu do it just right,
[17:25] <dannyedwrds> Well after the boot screen is still at a black screen with no back light and I can't get into the terminal and am not able to get to the terminal
[17:25] <dannyedwrds> any ideas what i can do?
[17:25] <MagicMadJam> brb restarting to try and fix my audio problem
[17:26] <random_user12312> bekks: thank you, gksu does it right, thank you
[17:27] <LonelyDanbo> what's a "system keymapping"?
[17:27] <LonelyDanbo> is it just the keyboard? why would a gamepad be part of that?
 xeno: That means you are not using an official vbox release. Ask the Ubuntu support then, or use an official release.
[17:29] <Samson> Hi from Netherlands
[17:30] <LonelyDanbo> god I hate my life. why can't simple things just work.
[17:30] <woof-woof> Hi from Brazil! > Samson
[17:30] <Geo> I upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and now my mail server seems to be bouncing messages. Where/how should I start troubleshooting?
[17:30] <Samson> sorry can not good engelisch
[17:30] <bekks> xeno: Forming a full question qould be helpful for all the others.
[17:31] <xeno> The trouble is, I am cloning a virtualbox vm, and when I clone it from a saved state which is booted with a setting to generate a new MAC accress, I do not get the new MAC address, but the booted one on the source vm.
[17:31] <Samson> Wie is hier nederlands????
[17:31] <DJones> !nl | Samson
[17:31] <xeno> VBGUI version 4.3.10_Ubuntu
[17:31] <bekks> xeno: Provide the important part too: you are using a vbox version from the ubuntu repos.
[17:31] <LonelyDanbo> what would remap a gamepad's controls to move the mouse cursor? someone said "system keymappings" but isn't that the keyboard?
[17:32] <bekks> xeno: and there is no such things as "VBGUI", but just "VirtualBox".
[17:32] <xeno> Yes, thank you bekks.  I am using a Virtualbox version as installed from standard Debian.  My Debian is
[17:32] <Samson> ubottu in ubunto softwarecentrum???
[17:32] <GTRsdk> ikonia: recovery mode worked :D
[17:32] <bekks> xeno: For debian support please seek the debian support channels. :)
[17:33] <xeno> Sorry, Ubuntu...
[17:33] <xeno> My Ubuntu is 14.04.
[17:33] <bekks> xeno: Pastebin "lsb_release -a" please as well as "apt-cache search virtualbox"
[17:34] <Samson> is er ook een chat voor nederlands talig?
[17:34] <bekks> !nl | Samson
[17:34] <xeno> So, to recapitulate, I am booted, I save the state to a booted state that is not running.  I clone the virtualbox with the setting to regenerate the MAC address to a new one, and that creates a virtualbox vm that still has the original's MAC address
[17:34] <Samson> ok
[17:34] <bekks> xeno: Please provide the information requested.
[17:35] <xeno> When I do the same thing with a virtualbox that is shut down, not saved in a booted state, then it DOES generate the new MAC address.
[17:35] <xeno> The combination used is virtualbox installed on Ubuntu 14.04, but I am installing Debian on the virtualboxes themselves.
[17:36] <xeno> I have not tested with Ubuntu on the virtualboxes themselves, but presumably that is not the issue.
[17:36] <bekks> xeno: I take that as you dont want to provide the information requested. Good luck in getting support for your issue.
[17:36] <xeno> bekks:  lease clarify any information I have left out.
[17:36] <ErvisTusha> hi all
[17:36] <ErvisTusha>  how can i submit my app to Ubuntu Software Center ?
[17:37] <bekks> xeno: The information request you ignored was "< bekks> xeno: Pastebin "lsb_release -a" please as well as "apt-cache search virtualbox"" - and I am not going to support issues when I have to request information three times.
[17:38] <bekks> or even more times.
[17:39] <xeno> Here is the pastebin bekks is suggesting, I think:  http://pastebin.com/x4e3PjJt
[17:39] <xeno> Please clarify if anything else should be provided.
[17:40] <bekks> xeno: Ask someone else please.
[17:41] <xeno> Looks bekks, I am trying to follow your instructions.  It is not very helpful to get impatient and not give a person time to follow through.
[17:41] <xeno> In fact, I suspect it's against nettiquette.
[17:41] <Yelu> xeno, if it's not only for comfort reasons, try command line with your cloned machine in OFF state (see manual): VBoxManage modifyvm <yourvm> --macaddress<1-N> auto|<mac> => With this option you can set the MAC address of the virtual network card. Normally, each virtual network card is assigned a random address by VirtualBox at VM creation
[17:42] <zonovroman> Somebody, who knows when dpm will be online?
[17:42] <xeno> Yelu:  Okay, thank you.
[17:42] <Yelu> xeno, the randomizer for a new mac is to be implemented yet
[17:42] <Yelu> ;)
[17:42] <xeno> Meanwhile, I can submit a formal bug if that would be helpful.
[17:43] <whitehat> have ubuntu 14.04. anyone know of a way to save state between sessions, including all open programs in all workspaces?
[17:43] <bekks> xeno: In fact, I am supporting people in my free time. There is no god given right granted to you to be supported by me. I am the only one who decides to support people under which circumstances. I told you I am not supporting people when I have to ask three time or more for teh same requested information. If you dont accept that. just move on. Thats it.   It works sometimes.
[17:44] <mamece2> bekks: Hi, i have a question about dd. I have a 1 TB hd, i made a 800 Gb partition, now i can make a image with dd from my 750 GB external drive to the 800GB partition , right?
[17:44] <xeno> Yelu:  Do you mean it is only beta.  As I said, it works when I clone from a non-booted state.
[17:44] <bekks> mamece2: Yes.
[17:45] <bekks> Yelu: the randomizer just works fine, the solution is that the mac address in a saved state cant be changed.
[17:46] <Yelu> xeno, I had no problems under 12.04 LTS, but also your error description is new to me. - I'll test this next week under 14.04 (so you are ahead with your knowledge ...)
[17:46] <mirak> hello
[17:46] <xeno> Ok.  You are welcome to contact me for more information if I can be helpful at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:46] <Samson> her from netherlands
[17:46] <mirak> I have read deboostrap was deprecated
[17:46] <Yelu> xeno, thank you
[17:46] <mirak> so how do I install debootstrap like ?
[17:47] <Geo> I upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and now my mail server seems to be bouncing messages. Where/how should I start troubleshooting?
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> !info debootstrap | mirak
[17:47] <Geo> Log files don't show any obvious errors
[17:47] <xeno> Ok.  Sorry I'm slow at this.  I'm not trying to ignore people.  Best wishes.
[17:47] <mirak> !info debootstrap | mirak
[17:47] <mamece2> bekks: i dont need to do that from a live CD. amirite? its not necessary
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> mirak: it's in the repos, an 'apt-get install debootstrap' should install it.
[17:47] <mirak> SchrodingersScat, I have it, I am on quantal.
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> mirak: what are you trying to do?
[17:47] <bekks> mamece2: the source has to be offline, which means not mounted, used by anything else, etc.
[17:48] <mirak> SchrodingersScat, just install ubuntu trusty.
[17:48] <Samson> wie schrijft nederlands???
[17:48] <bekks> !nl | Samson
[17:48] <mirak> SchrodingersScat, but I need to do it from a running ubuntu.
[17:48] <mamece2> bekks: ok, nothing will be mounted
[17:48] <Samson> he bekks
[17:48] <saimoele> hi
[17:48] <mirak> SchrodingersScat, maybe I could use an alternate cd, but well i don't need to
[17:48] <Yelu> bekks, thank you for clarifiction on MAC randomizer topic
[17:49] <Samson> welke bekks??
[17:54] <mamece2> bekks: photorec uses image with the extension .img?
[17:56] <Yelu> xeno, to have an identical/similar test bed: which Debian you are installing as guest in VirtualBox on Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 LTS (as the host)?
[17:56] <Yelu> xeno, and which network interfaces=
[17:57] <sl33k_>  My gnome terminal on xfce does not show up prompt. Its all black with no cursor.
[17:58] <dw1> sl33k_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/280896/why-do-i-have-no-prompt-in-terminal-on-xfce-in-ubuntu-12-04
[17:59] <bekks> mamece2: file extensions have no meaning in linux.
[18:00] <geraldbrent> Here's a weird one for you guys: my computer refuses to boot plugged into power. Just gives me a black screen with a cursor. Usually happens after tty1 flashes up there while lightdm starts loading.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> sl33k_  matbe the background and text have the same colors
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> maybe*
[18:01] <sl33k_> MonkeyDust: indeed
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | geraldbrent try this
[18:01] <sl33k_> dw1: that did it. thanks
[18:02] <geraldbrent> Already tried that MonkeyDust. Nothing too odd shows up with quiet and splash disabled in the boot args.
[18:04] <mamece2> bekks: I have this issue. when i get to testdisk to make the image. I choose the external drive, then none as the partition (so I can make the image for the entire hd). then when i get to choose destination i cant choose /dev/sdb3 (the new partition in the 1 TB drive)
[18:04] <mcphail> Hi. I'm thinking of getting an AMD A10-6700 APU to replace my current system which has a low-end nvidia card. Does anyone have any experience with the current iteration of the open-source radeon drivers? Would this be suitable for general use and light gaming without installing the proprietary drivers?
[18:05] <geraldbrent> mcphail: I've had mixed results, but they seem to work well enough.
[18:05] <mcphail> geraldbrent: mixed? in what way?
[18:06] <geraldbrent> Some of the computers I tried it on had some issues with choppiness. Others ran extemely smooth.
[18:06] <mcphail> geraldbrent: was this a discrete GPU or one of the combined APUs?
[18:07] <geraldbrent> Oh, didn't see that. I've never dealt with APU's, but I'm sure that it would be fine.
[18:08] <newbie|2> I would like to backup my cell phone, a Sony Xperia SP, to my desktop computer.  I haven't yet succeeded.   Anyone wanna help me?
[18:08] <newbie|2> The cell phone is connected to the computer
[18:08] <mcphail> geraldbrent: cheers. The drivers seem much better with the built-in ATi chip on my old socket 939 mobo so I think I'll give it a try. If it doesn'twork with the current kernel I'm sure it will soon. Thanks!
[18:09] <geraldbrent> :)
[18:09] <Pessimist> mcphail: last time I checked hd5000-hd6000~ had the best performance with radeon. If you have a new gpu you will have to use catalyst to get a proper performance, radeon is slow to catch up
[18:10] <GTRsdk> okay so to add more information as to what I'm experiencing
[18:10] <GTRsdk> Ubuntu now loads and runs very slowly
[18:10] <mcphail> Pessimist: argh- not what I wanted to hear. I've got the urge to buy some new kit!
[18:10] <newbie|2> I have the impression that the computer sees only the memory card.  I'm looking to be sure that all my user data - including that which might be on the internal memory of the cell phone
[18:11] <GTRsdk> before I had a dual core Core 2 Duo on an Intel Desktop Board, now I use an Xeon L5410 (quad core) on an MSI G41M-P33
[18:11] <newbie|2> GTRsdk: I am a newbie, otherwise I would offer to help.
[18:11] <GTRsdk> on Windows it runs very fast, but Ubuntu is like 10x slower
[18:11] <Pessimist> mcphail: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[18:12] <daftykins> newbie|2: what are you running?
[18:12] <newbie|2> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit
[18:13] <newbie|2> I tried with Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS, but that doesn't recognize the cell phone
[18:13] <newbie|2> daftykins: I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:13] <mcphail> Pessimist: good link. Actually looks quite promising
[18:13] <daftykins> newbie|2: ok so if you go into settings and storage on your phone, there may well be three dots on the top right hand corner (or elsewhere) to get to USB storage options, check you're in MTP mode
[18:13] <mirak> Is there a full ubuntu installer that can be run from a running ubuntu ?
[18:13] <dmavroid> hello to everyone! It has been a while since I played around with ubuntu and now I am facing problems with upgrading my ubuntu version. could someone advice me of what to do? Thanks
[18:14] <daftykins> dmavroid: please use paste.ubuntu.com to share what's going wrong
[18:14] <Pessimist> mcphail: I recommend also searching on phoronix.com for performance tests of your gpu :)
[18:14] <Pessimist> or openbenchmark
[18:15] <GTRsdk> I'm going to build my own kernel and see if that solves the problem
[18:15] <Pessimist> dmavroid: what problems?
[18:16] <Vivekananda> I missed my chats yesterday
[18:16] <dmavroid> give me a sec to paste bin the log
[18:16] <newbie|2> daftykins: I am in Connectivity.  I see "Install PC Companion".  Just under that, I find "USB connection mode" in dark -  so inaccessible
[18:16] <mamece2> dont worry i foudn out how to do it
[18:16] <daftykins> newbie|2: it might not be possible to change it whilst you're connected already
[18:16] <Vivekananda> anyone here can help me with vpn connection and resultant loss of internet ? Someone asked me to paste the result of route -n pre and post connection and i did . Can anyone comment
[18:16] <dmavroid> basically it says failed to download repository information
[18:17] <Vivekananda> using ubuntu 12.04 and connecting via openvpn using the NManager plugin
[18:17] <newbie|2> daftykins: You saw it right.  I put it in MTP mode (it wasn't in that mode before)
[18:18] <daftykins> newbie|2: ah-ha! so now you should get it either automatically open a window when you plug it in - and the screen is unlocked, or you can open the 'files' program
[18:18] <mamece2> we noobs STAND ALONE
[18:18] <mcphail> Pessimist: I've never found benchmark sites like Phoronix very helpful as they never reflect the qualitative experience. The last time I tried the readeon drivers they were slow, blurry and corrupted the display through HDMI. They seem much better now. I'd like to ditch nvidia as soon as possible. Thanks for your help!
[18:18] <mcphail> *radeon
[18:19] <Pessimist> mcphail: if you are on ubuntu you can also try this ppa http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?50038-Updated-and-Optimized-Ubuntu-Free-Graphics-Drivers
[18:19] <newbie|2> daftykins: I found "lucky backup" and it is doing its job.  Thanks !!
[18:19] <daftykins> newbie|2: my pleasure :)
[18:20] <daftykins> newbie|2: if you want standard text messages, i highly recommend the program "SMS Backup & Restore" by Ritesh Sandhu (or similar)
[18:20] <newbie|2> daftykins: I am a newbie, even though I've been in Linux for a number of years
[18:20] <mcphail> Pessimist: great. I'll bookmark that one
[18:21] <newbie|2> daftykins: What I need to do is to backup everything because the cell phone invites me to update it to the version that is already on it.  I will do a factory reboot and, if I didn't do the backup, I'd lose all my user date
[18:22] <newbie|2> data *
 How can I attach a screenshot?
 since there is nothing i can copy and paste
[18:23] <newbie|2> daftykins: I saw some error messages on certain files during the backup.
[18:23] <Pessimist> dmavroid: issue the upgrade command from the terminal and then you can paste
[18:23] <daftykins> dmavroid: use any free image upload site
[18:23] <Pessimist> *copy&paste
[18:24] <daftykins> newbie|2: you should see the files listed on the phone now, yes? so you can just copy and paste everything onto your computer
[18:24] <dmavroid> how can i see my ubuntu version from the terminal?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> dmavroid  cat /etc/issue
[18:24] <miloXL> Are there logs for when my laptop is operational?
[18:25] <miloXL> i.e. turned on
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479681/
[18:26] <newbie|2> daftykins: I'm using lucky backup to backup my user data ... to my desktop.
 my version is 13.04
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> dmavroid  type daf [tab] for nick completion
[18:26] <daftykins> dmavroid: aaah, an EOL version
[18:26] <daftykins> !eolupgrade
[18:26] <daftykins> dmavroid: check out the link above
[18:26] <Vivekananda> anyone care to comment ?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  on what?
[18:27] <daftykins> Vivekananda: you really need to read into VPN use more, what you're asking is very basic operation
 which link? :S
[18:27] <daftykins> dmavroid: the second about EOL upgrades
[18:27] <Vivekananda> daftykins: I understood that on connection I can get internet still if I check a box on the routes gui. I did that an yet nothing so stuck now . What should I read ?
[18:28] <daftykins> Vivekananda: did you have some pastebin links from the previous person that asked you to check routes?
 do you think is easier if i just download the new version of ubuntu instead of upgrading the existing one?
[18:29] <Vivekananda> daftykins: I get the connection but lose internet.  It is not that my vpn is not connecting so this is more of troubleshooting. What do I read ? yes it is here --  https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c759
[18:29] <daftykins> dmavroid: it definitely would be yes, but it depends if you have much data you would have to backup first. or if your system is partitioned
 thanks a million! I am going for a fresh install
[18:30] <daftykins> dmavroid: my pleasure :) good luck!
[18:31] <daftykins> Vivekananda: at a guess i think your DNS servers get changed which stops things from working, are you familiar with 'nslookup' ?
[18:31] <Vivekananda> no I am quite the newbie for internet connections and router stuff. Tell me what to read
[18:32] <Vivekananda> just so you kknow this is a remote computer I am trying to connect to  daftykins
[18:32] <daftykins> Vivekananda: right but that part already works? are you looking to have internet access through the VPN or through your own connection?
[18:33] <Vivekananda> I want to have net through my own but be able to use the remote computer too and install things on it using its own net
[18:33] <ubuntuinharmony> How can you fix a broken sudoers file?
[18:33] <daftykins> Vivekananda: why didn't you just setup SSH access? :)
[18:33] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: By fixing the syntax errors.
[18:34] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: Or by restoring your backup
[18:34] <ubuntuinharmony> What syntax errors?
[18:34] <ubuntuinharmony> Ubuntu One backup?
[18:34] <ratskinmahoney> ubuntuinharmony: how broken? can you still sudo?
[18:34] <Bluewolf> How do I run a .sh file in my downloads through the terminal?
[18:34] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: Define "broken" please.
[18:34] <ubuntuinharmony> Like, not even being able to use gksudo
[18:35] <daftykins> Vivekananda: anyway, pastebin these "cat /etc/resolv.conf" "nslookup google.com" now connect to the VPN and run again "nslookup google.com" and "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" (press ctrl+c to stop this after 4 or more packets have been sent)
[18:35] <daftykins> Bluewolf: that depends, what is it?
[18:35] <Bluewolf> daftykins: HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh
[18:36] <daftykins> Bluewolf: you're absolutely sure there's no better way to install that?
[18:36] <daftykins> (i have no idea what it is)
[18:36] <ratskinmahoney> ubuntuinharmony: will need to go into recovery mode to get to root, then. I'd advise looking up a copy of a 'standard' sudoers file, if you didn't take your own backup, and replacing the broken one
[18:36] <Vivekananda> okay trying that now
[18:36] <ubuntuinharmony> What counts as "standard"?
[18:37] <ratskinmahoney> And thence, only ever to edit the file via visudo
[18:37] <ubuntuinharmony> visudo would never work either
[18:37] <Geo> How would I mirror an email account hosted elsewhere on my ubuntu server? ie, it logs in to the other account, synchs via IMAP, but then allows me to connect to its own IMAP serer to access that mail. I'm not looking for an email client; just a way to mirror a seperate server
[18:37] <Bluewolf> daftykins: I have selected allow as an executable in properties and double clicked it, gedit is opening up and its freezing. Could my download be corrupt?
[18:38] <Bluewolf> How do I check?
[18:38] <daftykins> Bluewolf: so open a terminal, navigate to where that file is (probably just type "cd ~/Downloads" then "chmod +x HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh" then "./HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh"
[18:38] <daftykins> Bluewolf: well i would do a quick google check to see that that's the best way to get that game running on ubuntu
[18:39] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: What is your actual issue with the sudoers file?
[18:39] <ubuntuinharmony> Is there a way to get a kernel panic in Ubuntu?
[18:39] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: Yes.
[18:39] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: But whats your issue with the sudoers file?
[18:39] <ubuntuinharmony> How?
[18:40] <bekks> ubuntuinharmony: Whats your actual support issue?
[18:40]  * daftykins is sensing troll potential
[18:41] <Pessimist> ubuntuinharmony: kill 1
[18:41] <Bluewolf> daftykins: Yeah I have checke and what you say confirms that. chmod +x HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh does nothing and ./HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh says "bash: ./HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy"
[18:41] <ilhami> Hey
[18:41] <ubuntuinharmony> sudo rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root
[18:41] <ilhami> a good editor for ubuntu?
[18:41] <bekks> !danke
[18:41] <bekks> !danger
[18:41] <Pessimist> Bluewolf: isn't there hon in the ubuntu repos? or a ppa?
[18:42] <bekks> !ops | ubuntuinharmony
[18:42] <ilhami> I  need one with text highlighting...
[18:42] <bekks> daftykins: you were right.
[18:42] <Pessimist> ilhami: vim and do :syntax on
[18:42] <ubuntuinharmony> vimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvim
[18:42] <Bluewolf> Pessimist: Ubuntu repos or a ppa?
[18:43] <ilhami> Pessimist, how do I put syntax on?
[18:43] <jrib> ubuntuinharmony: if you want help with a real ubuntu issue, please ask about it.  If you just want to get banned then continue
[18:43] <bekks> Can some op please remove that troll?
[18:43] <IdleOne> ubuntuinharmony: Do you have an actual issue you need help with?
[18:43] <daftykins> Bluewolf: yes commands don't output anything when they work :) it's meant to be 1.9GB, so type "ls -hl" and compare the size against 1.9GB
[18:43] <ubuntuinharmony> vim
[18:43] <Pessimist> ilhami: open the file: vim FILE or just open vim and write :o FILE then write :syntax on
[18:43] <bekks> IdleOne: thank you
[18:44] <ilhami> Pessimist,  I will try.
[18:44] <ilhami> thanks
[18:44] <mamece2> bekks: hello, do u know how photorec works? does it start recognizing the files as text but then it will reconstruct them to movies and pictures?
[18:44] <Vivekananda> daftykins: if you are there  https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c759
[18:44] <irhass> ping
[18:44] <Vivekananda> oo good I have net back
[18:44] <Vivekananda> daftykins: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c759
[18:44] <bekks> mamece2: It will start recognizing files by its content.
[18:45] <irhass> can someone help me with my mic problem? please?
[18:45] <Pessimist> ilhami: a good tutorial comes with vim. Run vimtutor from a terminal and do it before using :)
[18:45] <OerHeks> Pessimist +1
[18:45] <Vivekananda> no nslookup / ping working after net connection to vpn. Also  I am using vpn coz thta is the only thing available to me from the user of the remote network
[18:45] <gadgetroid_> irhass: what is the problem with it?
[18:46] <daftykins> Vivekananda: ok, so something has totally reconfigured your connection to break more than just DNS. are you handling the VPN entirely through network-manager?
[18:46] <Bluewolf> daftykins: 2,2GB - HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh, Thats strange I downloaded it through the terminal because of my internet connection - wget -c http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh
[18:46] <irhass> cant record any voicea
[18:46] <mamece2> bekks: so if its says its a .txt it will leave it like that?
[18:46] <irhass> *voicea
[18:46] <Vivekananda> yes
[18:46] <irhass> voices i mean
[18:46] <bekks> mamece2: file extensions have no meaning in linux.
[18:46] <daftykins> Bluewolf: ok try "sh HoNClient-<IP_ADDRESS>.sh"
[18:47] <SchrodingersScat> mamece2: it might look at file header, so looking at the file to see how it identifies vs known headers, because the filename means nothing.
[18:47] <Vivekananda> but I mistakenly also installed openvpn client using sudo apt-get and then ran it once ( was before I restarted the system) using  -  openvpn --cofigure client.ovpn
[18:47] <lucastt> i tried to install 32libs(sudo apt-get install ia32-libs), and it threw some errors
[18:47] <lucastt> it says it was impossible to fix the problems, because i held broken packages
[18:47] <lucastt> and that the package has unmet dependencies
[18:47] <bekks> lucastt: can you pastebin the entire output please?
[18:47] <gadgetroid_> irhass: Which version of Ubuntu?
[18:48] <bekks> !pastebin | lucastt
[18:48] <gadgetroid_> irhass, also, what is your config?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> lucastt  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[18:48] <mamece2> SchrodingersScat: bekks what about the folders? I can see he recovers the files into recover.1 and so on. will i get the folder in its original order?
[18:48] <Pessimist> lucastt: tell us what ubuntu version you are using :)
[18:48] <lucastt> bekks, i could, but the output is in Portuguese
[18:48] <daftykins> Vivekananda: have you removed that package since?
[18:48] <bekks> mamece2: No.
[18:48] <lucastt> Pessimist, 12.04
[18:48] <Bluewolf> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/MspNG0Af
[18:49] <bekks> lucastt: LANG=C apt-get ...
[18:49] <irhass> saucy
[18:49] <lucastt> ok
[18:49] <irhass> i don't know how find the mic conf file
[18:49] <lucastt> http://pastebin.com/DAh8c00D
[18:50] <daftykins> Bluewolf: ok, you're going to need to delve into the game's support forum and/or look around at how to run/install it with ubuntu. this is their responsibility, not ubuntu's
[18:50] <mamece2> What would you experts use to migrate your hd info to a new hd?
[18:50] <bekks> mamece2: cp or rsync
[18:50] <daftykins> Vivekananda: i'm not convinced the settings are right for ignoring routes and so on with your VPN setup, but i don't use one myself to comment.
[18:50] <Decstasy> mamece2 dd
[18:51] <GTRsdk> mamece2: cp /home to the new drive
[18:51] <bekks> Decstasy: dd will produce unnecessary amounts of data :)
[18:51] <hpprinter100> Hey, i'm running 13.04 and i am vnc'ing to it, but the screen is not updating. Any ideas why?
[18:51] <lucastt> bekks, http://pastebin.com/DAh8c00D
[18:51] <mamece2> thx
[18:51] <bekks> !raring | hpprinter100
[18:51] <mamece2> !upgrade
[18:51] <bekks> lucastt: Did you try to install that missing package?
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> hpprinter100  upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[18:51] <mamece2> !eol
[18:52] <Bluewolf> daftykins: Fair enough it there problem, but is the file itself okay?
[18:52] <Decstasy> bekks that belongs how you use it :)
[18:52] <lucastt> bekks, no, i tought i wouldn't need. should i?
[18:52] <sysop_host> if you're going to dd you might as well use dcfldd as it gives you real time feedback at least
[18:52] <bekks> lucastt: Well, the error message states that a package is missing.
[18:52] <SchrodingersScat> Bluewolf: did you see this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1384398/usr-bin-perl-bad-interpreter-text-file-busy ; do you have the file open somewhere?
[18:52] <daftykins> Bluewolf: i have no way of knowing. by using google with your error i found: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?334533-Can-t-install-Initial-Setup-Failed
[18:52] <lucastt> bekks, http://pastebin.com/scuCAwEw
[18:53] <hpprinter100> windows 8.1 it is :)
[18:53] <lucastt> the last time i installed ia32-libs it broke my theme engine
[18:53] <mamece2> GTRsdk: cp home will not copy my system configuration or program's version, right?
[18:53] <sysop_host> i've experienced issues with ia32-libs and nvidia cards
[18:53] <GTRsdk> mamece2: if you want to copy everything, use dd or copy from /
[18:53] <Bluewolf> daftykins: Me too.
[18:53] <Vivekananda> daftykins: all I have done is to import the vnp client.ovpn file into the vpn and started it. Did I need to set up more things manually ? if so I am stuck. What do I need to do to get this to work ?
[18:54] <Geo> My dovecot server is giving bouncebacks since my upgrade to 12.04... "no such domain" . Where/how should I start troubleshooting this?
[18:54] <lucastt> i don't have a nvidia card, all i have is an intel onboard card
[18:54] <bekks> lucastt: Install the missing package ;)
[18:54] <lucastt> which one?
[18:54] <daftykins> Vivekananda: disable using DNS on the remote system, disable using the remote system as the default gateway and to read up on how VPNs work more so you can find out what's going wrong too :)
[18:54] <daftykins> !vpn | Vivekananda
[18:54] <bekks> lucastt: The missing package from the latest pastebin
[18:54] <lucastt> ...archs:i386?
[18:54] <bekks> lucastt: Yes.
[18:54] <lucastt> ok
[18:55] <ilhami> this vim editor is pretty advanced. It is not as I expected :D I need some GUI editor.. Are there any good ones?
[18:55] <Vivekananda> dafy okay
[18:55] <Bluewolf> SchrodingersScat: Good to see you, No I don't have it open anywhere as it is not running as it should. Its freezing up gedit?
[18:55] <lucastt> bekks, same error
[18:55] <bekks> lucastt: Impossible, the error will have changed :)
[18:55] <SchrodingersScat> Bluewolf: sorry, i was way late, seems your past that problem.
[18:55] <lucastt> http://pastebin.com/yc3nyWXH
[18:56] <bekks> lucastt: So a third missing package is mentioned ;)
[18:56] <Bluewolf> SchrodingersScat: Indeed, how ever I feel something could have happened to the download?
[18:56] <lucastt> it's not
[18:56] <lucastt> it's literally the same message
[18:57] <bekks> lucastt: So install the missing package missing in line 12.
[18:57] <lucastt> if you open side by side both links,all that changes is the command
[18:57] <lucastt> it says it's not going to be installed
[18:57] <bekks> lucastt: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 gtk2-engines-murrine:i386
[18:57] <lucastt> gosh, i have so many issues with my distro
[18:58] <lucastt> bekks, i think that will break my distro
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> lucastt  that's called "learning"
[18:58] <bekks> lucastt: Because...?
[18:58] <lucastt> it's elementary OS
[18:58] <lucastt> which has a different theme engine
[18:58] <lucastt> and if i install another theme engine
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> ah, not supported here, lucastt
[18:58] <lucastt> i see
[18:58] <bekks> lucastt: Well, then seek the elementary OS support please.
[18:58] <lucastt> i tought i would be able to fix that on #ubuntu
[18:59] <lucastt> i'm probably going to switch distros again...
[18:59] <daftykins> !elementary | lucastt
[19:00] <lucastt> its support is very bad
[19:00] <daftykins> sounds about right
[19:00] <lucastt> every time i asked there they wouldn't reply
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> lucastt  tip: use a distro with good support
[19:00] <lucastt> i'm switching to ubuntu
[19:00] <ilhami> what is the best terminal for Ubuntu?
[19:00] <ilhami> I have this terminal which doesnt accept a dragged file
[19:00] <ilhami> thats pretty bad
[19:01] <lucastt> i'm using elementary os because i find it very beautiful
[19:01] <GTRsdk> gnome-terminal is good
[19:01] <lucastt> i guess i shouldn't have chosen just because of that
[19:01] <daftykins> lucastt: correct!
[19:01] <lucastt> now another question
[19:02] <lucastt> how do i remove Elementary OS? lol
[19:02] <lucastt> without loosing my stuff
[19:02] <lucastt> i have Windows 7 on dual boot
[19:02] <GTRsdk> lucastt: how much do you need to backup?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> lucastt  backup first, then install new system
[19:02] <lucastt> can i do a "triple" boot?
[19:02] <daftykins> lucastt: us not supporting it includes how to get rid of it ;)
[19:02] <bekks> lucastt: sure.
[19:03] <lucastt> daftykins, ok, sorry
[19:03] <GTRsdk> you can but it adds more pain than it is worth sometimes
[19:03] <ilhami> Yeah gnome terminal is good
[19:03] <ilhami> thanks
[19:03] <lucastt> the last time i reinstalled Elementary, i deleted its partitions
[19:03] <lucastt> which wasn't a happy choice
[19:03] <lucastt> because i also removed GRUB
[19:04] <lucastt> i mean, i broke it
[19:04] <lucastt> it wouldn't open any OS
[19:04] <GTRsdk> there's ways to fix GRUB
[19:04] <daftykins> lucastt: ok, ubuntu support questions only please. you're welcome to speak of elementary in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:05] <lucastt> GTRsdk, yeah, i fixed it
[19:05] <lucastt> daftykins, sorry, i stopped.
[19:05] <Vivekananda> daftykins: that vpn info is upto 10.04 only  I have tried the steps here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient  but no good :(
[19:05] <daftykins> Vivekananda: yeah there'll be more documentation available online i'm sure
[19:06] <GTRsdk> Is the first boot after a new CPU usually slow?
[19:06] <bekks> GTRsdk: no
[19:06] <stoo_> stoowho
[19:06] <Vivekananda> I am trying to look but if you know of one that talks about network connections grounds up would be very helpful
[19:07] <daftykins> Vivekananda: no, not off hand
[19:07] <GTRsdk> bekks: weird... my boots have been very slow with this new CPU which is supposed to be faster than my old one
[19:07] <GTRsdk> though it could be a motherboard issue too
[19:07] <GTRsdk> as I switched that too
[19:08] <GTRsdk> though with CPU usage at 100% (compiling the kernel) it seems to be faster
  w h o ?
[19:10] <stoo_> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[19:10] <stoo_> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[19:11] <bekks> stoo_: *plonk*
[19:11] <stoo_> UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[19:11] <DJones> stoo_: Stop that
[19:11] <stoo_> C
[19:11] <daftykins> totally didn't see that coming
[19:11] <stoo_> CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
[19:12] <stoo_> KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[19:12] <stoo_> KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[19:12] <lucastt> lol
[19:13] <GTRsdk> so how exactly would one switch the default CPU governor? does it have to be baked into the kernel as default?