[06:31] <Macrosoft> k
[06:31] <harley> Macrosoft thanks allot for trying thow
[06:31] <circs> I don't even know how I broke this one....
[06:31] <favro> daklan: we're trying to find out how a disk IS mounted hehe
[06:32] <daklan> favro: the mount command should suffice
[06:32] <sfer2> linuxbob56: Is that the small one?
[06:32] <brolly81> favro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47665/
[06:32] <daklan> favro: "mount" should list EXACTLY what's on /etc/mtab
[06:34] <spicyj> does anyone know why I might get a ping response for a domain but not an IP?
[06:34] <brolly81> favro:  i can access its sitting right on my desktop as an icon that but i cant drag and drop or save to it
[06:35] <favro> brolly81: of course - it is mounted - just not with permissions to let you write to it
[06:35] <anagram> spicyj: I'd suspect the domain is resolving to something different. what happens if you do nslookup domain.com ? does it resolve?
[06:36] <Father_Fibula> restarting and insstalling Kubuntu, be back in a while
[06:36] <spicyj> well, what I did was ping google.com
[06:36] <brolly81> favro:  yeah, it seems like a quick thing to fix, is it?
[06:36] <spicyj> it gave PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:36] <spicyj> and continued to get responses
[06:36] <spicyj> then I tried a ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:36] <spicyj> and it just hangs there
[06:37] <daklan> brolly81: unmount it as superuser, and remount as regular user. see if it mounts properly
[06:38] <daklan> spicyj: maybe that host is down at the moment?
[06:38] <anagram> spicyj: check that first octet (each number inbetween dots is an octet).
[06:38] <spicyj> anagram: what?
[06:38] <fallore> I'm trying to play mp3 files with Rythmbox. The files are on a partition used by my Windows XP boot, sda5. They will often play but sometimes instead of playing it skips over them as if they are not there. Does anyone know why this sometimes happens and/or how to fix it? Happens with all media players and even if i attempt to copy the mp3 to the ubuntu partition.
[06:38] <brolly81> daklan: im using partion editor, is that ok to use to unmount and remount
[06:38] <spicyj> anagram: oh, got it! whoops.
[06:38] <anagram> :)
[06:38] <daklan> brolly81: are you in the process of installing, or partitioning?
[06:39] <brolly81> partitioning
[06:39] <daklan> brolly81: what was the problem again?
[06:40] <favro> heheha
[06:40] <brolly81> daklan: you told me to unmount as a superuser and remount as a regular user
[06:40] <favro> I thought it was installed
[06:40] <daklan> brolly81: if you are partitioning, that volume shouldn't be mounted
[06:40] <brolly81> daklan:  i could not save files to it, but i could open it and browse it
[06:40] <favro> from the live cd?
[06:41] <daklan> brolly81: if the volume is mounted, you risk losing data by partitioning
[06:41] <linuxbob56> anybody know how to get sound on a HHD notebook?
[06:41] <brolly81> i already partitioned and mounted it
[06:41] <daklan> brolly81: it's mounted as read-only
[06:41] <arooni> pastebinit and pastebin.com dont seem to be working .. ideas?  they give me a url but there's nothing there when i go there.
[06:41] <daklan> brolly81: and probably by a user other than yourself
[06:41] <cHa> ai
[06:41] <daklan> brolly81: in that case, cancel whatever partitioning that you're doing, and unmount
[06:42] <phantomcircuit> pulse audio isn't working
[06:42] <phantomcircuit> im getting this error in /var/log/user.log
[06:42] <fallore> Also I just finished downloading a 350mb file with ktorrent and after completing ktorrent gives the error "cannot open home/austin/filehere: no such file or directory" the file just disappeared, i can't find it anywhere.
[06:42] <phantomcircuit> Sep 11 21:59:11 patrick-laptop pulseaudio[19390]: shm.c: shm_open() failed: No such file or directory
[06:42] <phantomcircuit> Sep 11 21:59:11 patrick-laptop pulseaudio[19390]: pstream.c: Failed to import memory block.
[06:42] <brolly81> daklan: it is unmounted
[06:43] <daklan> brolly81: is it a flashdrive?
[06:43] <Taiga-SK> i get the following error when trying to access settings: (zapping:8263): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_list_store_get_value: assertion `VALID_ITER (iter, list_store)' failed
[06:43] <Taiga-SK> (zapping:8263): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.16.4/gobject/gtype.c:3362: type id `0' is invalid
[06:43] <Taiga-SK> (zapping:8263): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: can't peek value table for type `<invalid>' which is not currently referenced
[06:43] <Taiga-SK> Segmentation fault
[06:43] <Taiga-SK> plz help
[06:43] <sfer2> !paste | Taiga-SK
[06:43] <brolly81> daklan:  its a hard drive 160 gigs
[06:43] <brolly81> daklan: its unmounted, now what?
[06:43] <favro> brolly81: first   sudo umount -v /dev/sda1
[06:44] <Taiga-SK> sfer2, yes ok but it's only like 5 lines or so...
[06:44] <daklan> brolly81: mount it, but as regular user. see if you can mount it properly
[06:44] <daklan> brolly81: by regular user, i mean don't use sudo
[06:44] <DCPom> does anyone know the terminal command to disable the PC speaker?
[06:45] <sfer2> Taiga: Yeah, sorry. Thought there were more and my window wasn't scrolled. ;) When exactly does that error happen?
[06:45] <daklan> DCPom: you can mute the PC speaker using your mixer settings
[06:45] <Taiga-SK> sfer2, when i access edit- preferences either in zapping or kazehakase
[06:45] <linuxbob56> anybody using a acer aspire 6920 notebook???
[06:45] <sfer2> So it's a program specific error?
[06:46] <Nom-> Hi all.  I've got an issue with Ubuntu Hardy having high context switch in VMware ESX Server in a completely idle guest.  Is there any documentation describing how to fix this?
[06:46] <sfer2> linuxbob56:  Is that one of the mini ones with a SSD?
[06:46] <bhindi> hy
[06:46] <bhindi> allz
[06:46] <Taiga-SK> sfer2, samwe error 2 programs
[06:46] <Taiga-SK> same*
[06:46] <bhindi> will any body help me plz
[06:46] <linuxbob56> no, has HHD
[06:46] <sfer2> !ask | bhindi
[06:46] <brolly81> daklan: does it matter if ext3 or ext2 for filesystem
[06:46] <linuxbob56> no frigen sound
[06:46] <chubs> brolly81, do ext3
[06:47] <daklan> brolly81: no, and you probably can skip specifying the filesystem type
[06:47] <sfer2> linuxbob: Is that the one with the... Which sound card does it have in there? I was having problems with the sound on my Aspire laptop...
[06:47] <daklan> brolly81: fyi, ext3 is ext2 with journaling enabled
[06:47] <Styles> ext3 ftw
[06:47] <Taiga-SK> also after the Segmentation fault line the program terminates
[06:47] <ainul> halo
[06:48] <Styles> Taiga-SK, reset the apps settings / reinstall
[06:48] <SchmittyDoesIt> sweet
[06:48] <SchmittyDoesIt> exit
[06:48] <Styles> Taiga-SK, also they probably have fixes for what ever app you have somewhere but its a pain..
[06:48]  * iFvwm like Segmentation fault
[06:48] <Styles> Taiga-SK, happens to me too with a few apps
[06:48] <linuxbob56> sfer, not sure, think intel built in....just got ether card to work with ubuntu 10.0
[06:48] <Styles> I <3 segmentation faults!
[06:48] <OrangeKyo> ok, don't know how to phrase this but: the linux machine I'm connecting to is really slow, is there a command to see the users connected and what processes they're doing and stuff?
[06:48] <Taiga-SK> Styles, i installed them via synaptic. tried dpkg-reconfigure but w/o success
[06:49] <daklan> OrangeKyo: "users" to display who is logged in
[06:49] <_2> OrangeKyo pstree
[06:49] <phantomcircuit> Bluetooth appears to be broken for me
[06:49] <sfer2> linuxbob: Can you do sudo lshw -C sound and paste the output in pastebin?
[06:49] <jimv2000> just pull the network cable out...that will fix em
[06:49] <anagram> OrangeKyo: also useful:  top
[06:50] <daklan> OrangeKyo: you can also use "who" to display how each user is logged in
[06:50] <_2> daklan or 'w'
[06:50] <OrangeKyo> ok thanks guys
[06:50] <matthewyax_> hello all
[06:50] <linuxbob56> sfer..... *-multimedia
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        description: Audio device
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        physical id: 1b
[06:50] <Rat409> OrangeKyo: also ps aux is handy
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        version: 03
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        width: 64 bits
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        clock: 33MHz
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
[06:50] <sfer2> !paste | linuxbob56
[06:50] <daklan> _2: thanks, that's a good one too ;)
[06:50] <linuxbob56>        configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0 module=snd_hda_intel
[06:51] <sfer2> Yes, I've seen problems with them (including mine)... was this on a fresh install?
[06:51] <phantomcircuit> Bluetooth appears to be broken for me
[06:52] <daklan> _2: it's dangerous to irc as root :)
[06:53] <SchmittyDoesIt> how do i make a program run on startup, like for instance conky?
[06:53] <_2> daklan it's also silly to trust /whois   to give accurate information :)
[06:54] <daklan> _2: true :)
[06:54] <iFvwm> SchmittyDoesIt: system>preference>session?
[06:54] <daklan> anyways, time for bed
[06:54] <bhindi_> plz help me
[06:54] <darklordbill> ok i have ubuntu instyalled on my laptop but it dosent go onlione it dos the same thing with every os
[06:55] <linuxbob56> sfer...ok pasted it...now what will that accomplish???
[06:55] <darklordbill> i was formly harley
[06:55] <_2> daklan_zZz gooday
[06:55] <daklan_zZz> _2: and to you as well
[06:55] <SchmittyDoesIt> thanks iFvwm
[06:55] <igor__> Why do many apps not open on Ubuntu 8.04 such as Xchat
[06:55] <Taiga-SK> darklordbill, wifi or eth?
[06:55] <bhindi_> will u help me f
[06:55] <igor__> it ops for split second then closes
[06:56] <darklordbill> eth
[06:56] <fallore> I'm trying to play mp3 files with Rythmbox. The files are on a partition used by my Windows XP boot, sda5. They will often play but sometimes instead of playing it skips over them as if they are not there. Does anyone know why this sometimes happens and/or how to fix it? Happens with all media players and even if i attempt to copy the mp3 to the ubuntu partition.
[06:56] <darklordbill> well wifi to
[06:56] <sfer2> linuxbob56: Could you give me the link to it?
[06:56] <sfer2> !repeat | fallore
[06:56] <Taiga-SK> igor__, i'm using xchat right now and i have ubutu 8.04
[06:56] <bhindi_> how i can install tar.gz files
[06:56] <linuxbob56> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47667/
[06:56] <bhindi_> plz
[06:56] <SchmittyDoesIt> exit
[06:56] <igor__> I kno it worked before when i used ubuntu...now its acting weird
[06:56] <sfer2> Linuxbob: thanks
[06:56] <LuisCarlos> !patience
[06:56] <igor__> its not just xchat its many other programs too
[06:56] <igor__> Just refuse to open or open and close extremely fast
[06:56] <darklordbill> o and its a dell latitude 600
[06:57] <_2> bhindi_ why would you when there are almost 30k deb files for ubuntu ?
[06:57] <Taiga-SK> igor__, try opening in terminal window
[06:57] <fallore> sfer2: it's been a while, i'm not repeating it quickly.
[06:57]  * iFvwm doubt: not anyone mention about bash script? i want sell my scripts. :D
[06:57] <igor__> i will but, even it were to open in terminal...still thats a hassle having to open everything that way
[06:57] <bhindi_> liplz help me
[06:57] <Taiga-SK> igor__, at least you'll get the error messages
[06:57] <Styles> Taiga-SK, sorry what app? I was on the phone with a colo company :P
[06:57] <igor__> :( might have to reinstall maybe
[06:57] <igor__> ok i'll try
[06:58] <Styles> Taiga-SK, those silly people messed up my billing by accdent ;P
[06:58] <_2> iFvwm #bash maybe
[06:58] <iFvwm> lol
[06:58] <Taiga-SK> Styles, it was zapping and kazehakase
[06:58] <brolly81> favro: im still having problems with my hard disk, it is  still saying you do not have permission
[06:58] <Styles> Taiga-SK, humm hold on let me see something
[06:58] <darklordbill> i dont get it my internet never works on this laptop
[06:59] <airtonix> fallore, i would also spend some time searching through the ubuntuforums.org website
[06:59] <Taiga-SK> darklordbill, HOW do you connect to the internet?
[06:59] <bhindi_> plz plz help me
[06:59] <brolly81> favro: i am using partion editor also
[06:59] <darklordbill> second time ethernet
[06:59] <medusa> can someone help me dvds on hardy distro?
[06:59] <favro> brolly81: you don't own /media/disk - unmount the drive
[06:59] <bhindi_> some one there
[06:59] <airtonix> bhindi, where di you get the tar.gz
[06:59] <Styles> Taiga-SK, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zapping/+bug/39845
[06:59] <Flannel> bhindi_: What are you trying to install?
[06:59] <sfer2> !ask | bhindi_
[06:59] <bhindi_> frm net
[06:59] <Styles> ubottu, omg wtf?
[06:59] <airtonix> bhindi, ie: what is the purpose of the package
[07:00] <Styles> ubottu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zapping/+bug/39845
[07:00] <Styles> LOL
[07:00] <_2> bhindi_ i asked you why you wanted to install a tar ball    is there no .deb for what you want ?
[07:00] <airtonix> bhindi, btw .tar.gz = tar ball
[07:00] <favro> brolly81: why the partition editor?
[07:00] <bhindi_> proxychain
[07:00] <brolly81> cause it easier for me
[07:00] <sfer2> linuxbob: Check this out, it might help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122560
[07:01] <linuxbob56> k
[07:01] <airtonix> bhindi, first thing to do is extract it to your home folder, somewhere seperate from all the other guff in there
[07:01] <favro> brolly81: do you have ubuntu installed or are you using the live cd?
[07:01] <Taiga-SK> Styles, so i have to compile from CVS? (pain in the ass) ok, thanks.
[07:01] <_2> !source > bhindi_
[07:01] <bhindi_> i do
[07:01] <brolly81> its installed
[07:01] <airtonix> bhindi, second thing to do is search for the website of proxychain
[07:01] <Styles> Taiga-SK, yes with the patch ;)
[07:01] <airtonix> bhindi, thirdly, have you tried searching for "proxychain" on the ubuntuforums?
[07:02] <bhindi_> ok
[07:02] <favro> brolly81: when the disk is unmounted do   sudo chown -Rv /media/disk
[07:02] <Cm101> Hello everyone. I am having a small issue, and was wondering if any might be able to offer some guidance.  The screen on my laptop is temporarily disabled, so I am using an external monitor. When I try to use the Live CD version 8, the system goes through the loading phase on my external screen, but then the screen goes blank, as if it defaulted over to the laptop monitor. However, on the Live CD version 6, the external monitor wor
[07:02] <favro> brolly81: wait
[07:02] <bhindi_> i hane soft how i can i install
[07:02] <bhindi_> i m new bee
[07:02] <_2> !info proxychain > bhindi_
[07:02] <darklordbill> omfg how do i set up a file server i have a file on my de3sktop a iso and i want it on my laptopo how would i go abouy doing that with out cd's/flashdrivews
[07:02] <favro> brolly81: sudo chown -Rv you:you /media/disk   - where you = your login name
[07:03] <_2> bhindi_ just use the package manager and install your app
[07:03] <brolly81> favro:  ok
[07:03] <iFvwm> ..
[07:03] <favro> brolly81: then mount -v /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[07:03] <iFvwm> chown a mount point?
[07:03] <J-n>  !info proxychain > J-n
[07:04] <sfer2> darklordbill: I usually just use apache to achieve that, but you may want a proper file server solution, if you want to do it vice versa?
[07:04] <fallore> what's the quickest/easiest way to check what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[07:04] <Flannel> bhindi_: proxychains is in the repositories
[07:04] <Flannel> fallore: lsb_release -a
[07:04] <J-n> _2 proxychain does not exist in the repositories
[07:04] <Flannel> !info proxychains
[07:04] <fallore> thanks flannel
[07:04] <J-n> d'oh
[07:04] <J-n> don't listen to me.
[07:04] <phantomcircuit> i seem to be having a dbus problem here
[07:04] <_2> ;/
[07:04] <Rat409> bhindi_:  docs here http://proxychains.sourceforge.net/ probly
[07:05] <sfer2> fallore: you can also go to System > About Ubuntu
[07:05] <qwerfd> hello
[07:05] <qwerfd> i recently rebooted my box and turned on SMART monitoring in the bios and some other minor settings, then when i loaded xubuntu again the networking wasnt working
[07:06] <airtonix> sfer2, you also have to wade through quite a bit of text before you find the not so obvious words that represent your distro version
[07:06] <qwerfd> when i do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart i get a lot of errors with /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/sendmail
[07:06] <_2> 99% of the time someone comes in here asking how to install tar.gz    there is a .deb in the repos of what they are trying to do the hard way.
[07:06] <iFvwm> !wiki
[07:06] <qwerfd> and /etc/netowrk/if-up.d/sendmail
[07:06] <sfer2> airtonix: Yes, but it is a simple way to find it without opening terminal etc.
[07:07] <brolly81> favro  it unmounted and i did the command and an error came back  No such file or directory
[07:07] <brolly81> failed to change ownership of `/media/disk' to anthony:anthony
[07:07] <fallore> I'm trying to play mp3 files with Rythmbox. The files are on a partition used by my Windows XP boot, sda5. They will often play but sometimes instead of playing it skips over them as if they are not there. Does anyone know why this sometimes happens and/or how to fix it? Happens with all media players and even if i attempt to copy the mp3 to the ubuntu partition.
[07:07] <qwerfd> it appears that certain commands and scripts are not found... such as: /usr/share/sendmail/dynamic, update_interface, update_provider, update_host, update_sendmail... does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:07] <qwerfd> i am using exim4 instead of sendmail on my system
[07:07] <favro> brolly81: you can make a dir - sudo mkdir /media/anthonys_troublesome_disk
[07:08] <iFvwm> qwerfd: or perl script can do send mail well.
[07:08] <iFvwm> perl module
[07:08] <favro> brolly81: then chown it - it might be easier if it was an "always connected" disk to add an entry to fstab
[07:09] <qwerfd> iFvwm, i dont understand what you mean.... these errors were generated when i tried to restart networking... the problem is that i cannot connect to my network
[07:09] <iFvwm> oo
[07:09] <iFvwm> just connect problem?
[07:09] <sfer2> Ugh, now I need to ask a question...
[07:09] <sfer2> Applications like Rhythmbox, VLC and Movie player just won
[07:09] <sfer2> 't play my MP3 files anymore, for some reason?
[07:10] <morningwalker> unable to run compiz
[07:10] <airtonix> sfer2, done anything to gstreamer latley?
[07:10] <harley_> ok im on the serg of going insanr\e i cant burn a iso my usb flash drive dont work my laptop cant go online so i can download the iso and burn it with that
[07:10] <qwerfd> iFvwm, when i boot up it is not automatically connecting to the LAN, when i manually add auto eth\n iface eth0 inet dhcp to /etc/networking/interfaces and restart networking it gives those errors with sendmail
[07:10] <sfer2> airtonix: Nope, I don't think so - my sound is working, though (just recently fixed it)
[07:10] <Taiga-SK> sfer2, mplayer ftw. it just HAS TO play any mp3 file
[07:10] <_2> !adeptcrash > bhindi_
[07:11] <morningwalker> !compiz
[07:11] <phantomcircuit> my bluetooth mouse has stopped working
[07:11] <sfer2> Taiga: that's not the problem, the media player... it's just that they've all stopped working all of a sudden.
[07:11] <harley_> please some one just tell me how i can burn a iso to cd in ubuntu 5.10
[07:11] <phantomcircuit> it was working yesterday
[07:12] <medusa> I cant get dvd movies to play in hardy
[07:12] <iFvwm> qwerfd: sendmail is hard to me. but why not auto connect to LAN?
[07:12] <CatEater> phantomcircuit: did you try adjusting the rabbit ears
[07:12] <_2> lol good quit message   :)))    "An Irishman walks out of a bar... Yeah right!")
[07:12] <brolly81> favro anthony@anthony-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /media/anthony_troublesome_disk
[07:12] <brolly81> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/anthony_troublesome_disk': File exists
[07:12] <brolly81> anthony@anthony-desktop:~$
[07:12] <sfer2> harley_: try k3b, then burn cd image
[07:12] <Myrtti> !paste | brolly81
[07:12] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, what? it's an internal mini-pcie bluetooth
[07:12] <qwerfd> iFvwm, the problem is that it will not auto connect to the LAN.
[07:12] <phantomcircuit> there aren't any rabbit's ears
[07:12] <CatEater> replace batteries
[07:13] <phantomcircuit> no it's bluetooth that's the problem
[07:13] <favro> brolly81: hahaha
[07:13] <phantomcircuit> the icon has disappeared
[07:13] <phantomcircuit> and once more
[07:13] <CatEater> "it's wireless, it shouldn't need batteries"
[07:13] <phantomcircuit> $ hcitool scan
[07:13] <phantomcircuit> Device is not available: No such device
[07:13] <iFvwm> qwerfd: so this is the main problem. and i think is easy to solved.
[07:13] <favro> brolly81: did you already make one/
[07:13] <harley_> if i download nero for windows run it in wine will that work
[07:13] <CatEater> restore previous disk image
[07:13] <qwerfd> iFvwm, can you help with that?
[07:13] <brolly81> favro no hahaha
[07:13] <sfer2> And no, now mplayer won
[07:13] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, what is this, windows? you want me to reinstall?
[07:14] <Taiga-SK> i get the following error when invoking autogen.sk when trying to build zaping from cvs source. i don't understand the error please help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/47672/
[07:14] <sfer2> And now mplayer won't play any MP3s on my computer now. Can anyone help?
[07:14] <phantomcircuit> harley_, no
[07:14] <iFvwm> qwerfd: your condition is not clear.
[07:14] <fallore> sfer2: it'd be easier for everyone to answer your question if you typed it all up in one message.
[07:14] <phantomcircuit> harley_, the default install comes with "Brasero" cd burning thing
[07:14] <favro> brolly81: do you still have the partitioner open?
[07:14] <_2> harley_ there is a nero for linux   but why do you want nero ?
[07:14] <iFvwm> not xbuntu here. qwerfd
[07:14] <Taiga-SK> sfer2, what is the error msg it complaints about?
[07:14] <brolly81> no it was unmounted and then i saw it under my places and double clicked it and then it poped up on my desktop, wth?
[07:15] <qwerfd> iFvwm, when my computer starts it will not automatically connect to the wired LAN
[07:15] <phantomcircuit> harley_, applications->sound/video>brasero
[07:15] <sfer2> fallore: Yeah, I was referring to my previous problem
[07:15] <thinkfast> wow thats awesome, ubuntu is only using 200mb of ram with two instances of firefox open
[07:15] <iFvwm> i donot know how it works during start
[07:15] <sfer2> Taiga: It doesn't give any message, it just won't start playing.
[07:15] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, wait where you serious?
[07:15] <CatEater> if it's the bt interface that's absent and not just the mouse, hardware reset
[07:15] <brolly81> partitioner is still open, i just deleted my it and now it unallocated
[07:15] <Taiga-SK> thinkfast, how come?
[07:15] <harley_> what
[07:15] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, i already restarted the system
[07:15] <qwerfd> iFvwm, when i click on the little networking icon in the taskbar and select wired network i see the little green dots as if its trying to connect but it always fails
[07:15] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, did a full reboot
[07:16] <_2> thinkfast why is it so heavy ?
[07:16] <CatEater> "reboot" = power off?
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> yes
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> all the lights go out
[07:16] <_2> thinkfast http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7a41903d
[07:16] <harley_> nero for linux is weird and dosent work and makes my head hurt
[07:16] <Kingbuzzo> how do you look in as root?
[07:16] <Kingbuzzo> log^
[07:16] <qwerfd> Kingbuzzo, sudo su
[07:16] <Flannel> Kingbuzzo: you don't want to.  Use sudo instead.
[07:16] <Taiga-SK> harley_, don't use it - simple as that
[07:16] <harley_> well duh
[07:16] <brolly81> fresh start favro so what now, dude i would have never of thought it would be this complicated
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> harley_, Applications --> Sound & Video --> Brasero CD Burning
[07:17] <sfer2> harley_: the best burning software I've found is k3b
[07:17] <cHa> hmmm
[07:17] <Kingbuzzo> then how do I save files to my /usr
[07:17] <CatEater> that might do it, but just rebooting sometimes doesn't reset pci devices
[07:17] <iFvwm> qwerfd: what' the name of the network icon in xubuntu?
[07:17] <sfer2> It burns iso images easily too
[07:17] <iFvwm> the soft name qwerfd
[07:17] <CatEater> i would remove power and battery for 10s
[07:17] <_2> harley_ but why do you want nero ?    xcdroast "nautilus burring app" k3b  devede    there are lots of apps native to linux.
[07:17] <qwerfd> iFvwm, it is the 'nm-applet' it is not specific to xubuntu....
[07:17] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, alright well i guess ill power down and unplug the power?
[07:17] <iFvwm> nm-applet?
[07:17] <qwerfd> iFvwm, version 0.6.6 of the nm-applet
[07:17] <iFvwm> qwerfd: ok.
[07:18] <Taiga-SK> imo xubuntu is way too broken for regular use.
[07:18] <Kingbuzzo> how can I save files to /usr/local/share/games/mame?
[07:18] <qwerfd> iFvwm, this should be a standard applet installed with all ubuntu 8.04 versions
[07:18] <harley_> ok simple qestion if i download a nero for windows run it in wine will it work
[07:18] <CatEater> also briefly disconnect battery from both laptop and mouse
[07:18] <phantomcircuit> harley_, i already said no
[07:18] <_2> Kingbuzzo save to home and   sudo mv file /new/path
[07:18] <harley_> o
[07:18] <harley_> why not?
[07:18] <Taiga-SK> Kingbuzzo, only under root unfortunately. but you could try changing the ownership of the folder
[07:18] <qwerfd> Kingbuzzo, sudo cp what_ever_file_you_have /usr/local/share/games/mame/
[07:18] <favro> brolly81: clean disk? - make it ext3
[07:19] <iFvwm> qwerfd: so, you can right click it. and select "editor"
[07:19] <CatEater> harley_: same reason you can't run windows drivers in wine
[07:19] <Kingbuzzo_> how can I save files to /usr/local/share/games/mame?
[07:19] <phantomcircuit> harley_, because wine doesnt support sending ACPI msgs over ATA
[07:19] <harley_> k then
[07:19] <Flannel> Kingbuzzo: use sudo to copy them there.
[07:19] <favro> brolly81: is this a disk in the comp or a usb etc disk?
[07:19] <Cm101> might anyone be able to render assistance with regards to an external monitor not working when booting from a live cd (version 8) on a laptop?
[07:19] <Taiga-SK> Kingbuzzo, use chown
[07:20] <qwerfd> iFvwm, i have 4 options when i right click: enable networking, connection information, edit wireless networks, and about
[07:20] <harley_> sorry iuf i was kinda a jerk when i logged on just im like going crazy
[07:20] <_2> harley_ you "might" be able to use it in a vmware vbox or qemu  vertual machine   but    again i have to wonder why.
[07:20] <qwerfd> Kingbuzzo_,  sudo cp what_ever_file_you_have /usr/local/share/games/mame/
[07:20] <harley_> the iso or i could burn a cd in it
[07:20] <brolly81> favro: logical, primary, extended partion?
[07:20] <iFvwm> qwerfd: and check if "roaming mode" is in your "manaul config" menu.
[07:20] <Kingbuzzo_> thanks
[07:21] <favro> brolly81: is this a disk in the comp or a usb etc disk?
[07:21] <brolly81> its in the comp
[07:21] <_2> harley_ linux can natively mount .iso files   and there are serveral good burning apps.
[07:21] <favro> brolly81: logical is what I'd use
[07:21] <harley_> ya but the one that on linux ubuntu 5.10 yes its old dosent work
[07:21] <qwerfd> iFvwm, yes it is enabled
[07:22] <Flannel> harley_: have you considered just upgrading?
[07:22] <Flannel> harley_: you can go from 5.10 to 6.06, and then straight from 6.06 to 8.04
[07:22] <harley_> are you being smart i cant i cant burn a friggin iso
[07:22] <Flannel> harley_: You don't need an iso to upgrade.
[07:22] <_2> harley_ cd or dvd iso ?
[07:22] <harley_> cd
[07:22] <brolly81> favro: i dont have that option with my partition editor only primary is available, does it matter?
[07:22] <phantomcircuit> harley_, this is very easy to do
[07:23] <harley_> even if i did upgrade my sound drivers dont work
[07:23] <_2> harley_ try xcdroast   it works in 5.10
[07:23] <sfer2> !etiquette > harley_
[07:23] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, nope still doesnt work
[07:23] <Flannel> harley_: When you upgrade, you'll get newer drivers whcih may work, *or* you'll be able to successfully burn a CD
[07:23] <airtonix> harley_, shipit.net
[07:23] <favro> brolly81: nope- just went with what you gave - you can only have 4 primary partitions
[07:23] <harley_> hhmm.... how do i upgrade
[07:24] <CatEater> did you disconnect battery from both laptop and mouse?
[07:24] <airtonix> harley_, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[07:24] <harley_> ok so i order a cd wait 8 weeks hget then a nother upgrades out
[07:24] <Taiga-SK> doesn't sudo aptitude dist-upgrade do the trick
[07:24] <Flannel> harley_: Which state do you live in?
[07:25] <Taiga-SK> -?-
[07:25] <airtonix> harley_, wont be that soon
[07:25] <WIGGMPk> so today I decide to leave my laptop suspended, come home from work, open the lid.. as I expected the graphics were messed up so I restarted the GDM via CTRL+ALT+Backspace.. it hangs.. restart the computer and now the root LVM is missing... wtf is going on???
[07:25] <harley_> minnasota
[07:25] <Flannel> harley_: contact the minnesota LoCo team, they can get you a CD a lot quicker.
[07:25] <sfer2> harley: Up the top you should be able to see an "Updates Available" icon, then when you click that just follow the steps (because it will say there is a newer distro available)
[07:25] <Taiga-SK> wow he lives in us&a
[07:25] <harley_> were did you think i lived
[07:25] <_2> harley_ most of these guys don't remember all the breakage in upgrading from 5.10 to 6.6   if you aren't prepared to fix things, i can't with a clear conciense advise upgrading from 5.10 to 8.4 reguardless of the number of steps.
[07:25] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, i did for the laptop
[07:25] <Taiga-SK> harley_, europe at least
[07:25] <Flannel> harley_: #ubuntu-minnesota
[07:26] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, bluetooth device is still not even registered on the laptop though
[07:26] <CatEater> preemptive warning, after all the physical stuff i know 0 about bt
[07:26] <harley_> dude i dont even want ubuntu this was like a emergency i want to burn my puppy linux iso and use that
[07:27] <Flannel> _2: There wasn't any breakage going from Breezy to Dapper
[07:27] <Taiga-SK> harley_, btw what's a puppy linux?
[07:27] <ASrock> when using audacity with ubuntu i cant hear anything...audio works for everything exept audacity, any ideas?
[07:27] <CatEater> next i'd try messing with the battery in the mouse and placing it farther than six inches away from the base at two different angles
[07:27] <harley_> i personaly would rather use bck tracks then this
[07:27] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, crap i think it's physically broken
[07:27] <_2> Flannel heh  then why were the channels swamped with people asking how to fix things  ;/
[07:27] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, lspci doesn't list it
[07:27] <WIGGMPk> Can ANYONE help me.......!!!!?????? My computer NO LONGER see's my ROOT partition.. after coming back from "suspend"
[07:28] <harley_> google it its a linux for slower computers and there like a billion versoins
[07:28] <CatEater> won't klist the interface or the mouse?
[07:28] <Taiga-SK> ASrock, audacity seems unstable try using XMPP or BMP. they're similar
[07:28] <CatEater> s/klist/list/
[07:28] <Flannel> _2: Because they used third party repositories, and did other unsafe things.  Breezy to dapper was no worse than any other upgrade.  But we're getting offtopic.
[07:28] <phantomcircuit> CatEater, lspci should list the bluetooth mini pci controller
[07:28] <phantomcircuit> but it doesnt
[07:28] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, mount -a
[07:28] <ASrock> Taiga-SK: what exactly is XMPP and BMP?
[07:29] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: im sorry can you be more specific...?
[07:29] <Taiga-SK> ASrock, programs of course. alternatives to audacity
[07:29] <ASrock> oh
[07:29] <CatEater> since it's mini pci, you could check that it's still socketed
[07:29] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, well just try using the mount -a command
[07:29] <_2> Flannel "no worse than any other upgrade." != "no breakage"     but rather == the usual amount of breakage
[07:29] <ASrock> srry i thought you said it seems unstable using xmpp or bmp
[07:29] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: it returns with no feedback.. im in the liveCD right now
[07:30] <ASrock> Taiga-SK: which do you think i should try first?
[07:30] <Flannel> _2: Your earlier statement implied there were more issues than normal going to dapper.  But again, we're getting offtopic, if you'd like to continue, I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:30] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, oh then mount it the usual way then
[07:30] <harley_> ok i have the k3b thing now what
[07:30] <Wicked> when i install lirc...it just freezes up when it goes to load the lirc modules....and i see this in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m783c5f28
[07:31] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: when i try to us "mount /dev/sda1" it returns... mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:31] <Taiga-SK> ASrock, BMP is newer but XMMS (or whatever the name is) should be more stable.
[07:31] <Wicked> i found the same bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/222359 ....but there is no solutin
[07:31] <brolly81> favro my partition now says /dev/sdal
[07:31] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, add sudo before it
[07:31] <brolly81> favro whats next
[07:31] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: this is an LVM setup.. so after sitting and waiting for the boot process to kick to a shell.. I try "mount /dev/mapper/luggs--mbl--root" and it returns the same
[07:32] <harley_> i have k3b now what do i do
[07:32] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: i always use sudo
[07:32] <favro> brolly81: shut the partitioner
[07:33] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, shit bad luck then. i can't help you. maybe you could get to the grub console by adding init=/bin/sh (as far as i remember) to the kernel options at boot time (not from live cd) and then trying to repair.
[07:33] <harley_> yo i download k3b now what do i do
[07:34] <melvin> ?/
[07:34] <Taiga-SK> harley_, burning an iso shouln'ŧ be so hard
[07:34] <brolly81> favro ok it closed
[07:34] <harley_> i understand that
[07:34] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: this is ridiculous.. all i did was "suspend" my laptop now its junk
[07:34] <favro> brolly81: we'll make a dir and mount the disk there every boot ok?
[07:35] <harley_> im about to sell this thing on ebay for a dollar
[07:35] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, reboot and try again. and never suspend again ;)
[07:35] <favro> brolly81: sudo mkdir -v /media/newdisk
[07:35] <psypher246> hey everyone, please could someone tell, is it possible to NOT use gvfs in the latest ubuntu or should i rather just go back to gutsy to get the stable desktop i used to have
[07:35] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: never suspend again.. thats like says.. dont use the mouse on  your laptop.. its stupd
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> Taiga-SK: rebooting does nothing but recreate the problem again and again
[07:36] <Taiga-SK> WIGGMPk, sorry for helping you then
[07:36] <harley_> can some one please tell me what to do after i got k3b!
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> Someone PLEASE HELP!!!! My laptop returned from suspend and now my ROOT LVM Partition will not load and can not be found
[07:36] <Taiga-SK> harley_, well i don't have k3b but you should just click help and read it
[07:37] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, is your swap drive large enough to store the entire contents of your ram?
[07:37] <harley_> there is no help just a redad me that use less
[07:37] <fallore> I'm worried installing Ubuntu on my 9 year old brother's computer will ruin his childhood because he won't be able to play computer games and will turn him into a nerd. Is my concern reasonable?
[07:37] <brolly81> favro ok i did
[07:37] <iFvwm> airtonix: i think that true
[07:37] <_2> harley_ run k3b    you will notice at the bottom of it's screen burn cd iso to disk
[07:37] <Flannel> fallore: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, and no.  There are plenty of games.
[07:37] <iFvwm> otherwise suspend will died. airtonix
[07:38] <_2> harley_ click that   select the iso file and burn it.
[07:38] <harley_> i got this all in a tar file
[07:38] <_2> it's all point and click.
[07:38] <_2> ah man why a tar file
[07:38] <favro> brolly81: now we add an entry to fstab to mount it on every boot - gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: how do I determine that?
[07:38] <Taiga-SK> fallore, we need moar nerdz 1nd33d
[07:38] <_2> does no one know how to use the package manager
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: wouldnt the parititoner take care of that during the install???
[07:39] <harley_> what one do i need
[07:39] <unimatrix9> any news on the firefox issue?
[07:39] <iFvwm> suspend is a big bug always
[07:39] <psypher246> am i the only person i the world who finds that hardy (since having gvfs) is slow unstable, crashes nautilus when copying files onto samba server, slow usb drive copies and just generally is not what i would have expected from a LTS veersion??
[07:39] <Dolittle> enybody know enything bout installing ax25 for amatuer radio packet?
[07:40] <WIGGMPk> iFvwm: bug is one thing... im missing partitions.. thats a lil bit more then a bug
[07:40] <friendlysys> hi, how dangerous is it to just move/copy your /var/lib/mysql/[database] without shutting down your mysql service?
[07:40] <iFvwm> WIGGMPk: miss partition...
[07:40] <jim_p> hi!
[07:40] <iFvwm> i lost sound card before, suspend. WIGGMPk
[07:40] <brolly81> favro a second screen poped-up, sort of resembles notepad, do i need any info or need to do anything with that
[07:41] <WIGGMPk> iFvwm: i put my laptop in suspend.. when it returned.. my root LVM parition can not be found
[07:41] <ganes> what about the swap space if i boot the live cd
[07:41] <iFvwm> some version kernel. WIGGMPk
[07:41] <favro> brolly81: add this line - /dev/hda1       /media/newdisk     ext3    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:41] <illmortal_> Hey guys... I'm about to install Ubuntu, do I need to set the primary partition as "/" and then the secondary partition as the /home partition?
[07:41] <harley_> dude im going crazy all i wanted to do is watch youtube and play half life 2 mods
[07:41] <jigp> hello is there a way or shortcut key in order for you to show the icons and the tool bars "Accessories, System , etc" ? i tried to install key candy dock in ubuntu gnome..and now all icons are gone..all i can see is plain desktop with no icons even Accessories / System etc...
[07:41] <brolly81> favro where?
[07:41] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, i dont believe it automatically adjusts the prospective swap size according to the amount of ram you have
[07:41] <Flannel> illmortal_: That'll work, yes.
[07:41] <favro> brolly81: that should be the file that you pasted earlier
[07:41] <illmortal_> thanks flannel
[07:41] <thinkfast> hmm
[07:42] <favro> brolly81: check your spelling in terminal
[07:42] <thinkfast> is it possible to trace an ip to a user instead of their ISP?
[07:42] <jim_p> jigp: press Alt+F2 and type "gnome-panel"
[07:42] <fallore> When I play youtube videos there isn't any sound. They were working before I restarted X, and now they don't. Anyone know why?
[07:42] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: ok, so if i have 4GB of RAM and less then 4GB of SWAP.. ..... what happens? how is this related to my LVM partitions not being found???
[07:42] <brolly81> favro i just copied and pasted what you wrote
[07:42] <favro> brolly81: gksu gedit /etc/fstab opens the fstab file with admin rights to edit it
[07:42] <jim_p> jigp: not 100% correct but it will get you the panel back
[07:43] <jigp> jim_p : how to work with eye candy dock?why after i enable eye candy dock or awn all icons gone...
[07:43] <psypher246> does everyone think hardy is the best ubuntu so far? 5 months now and i'm starting to think I should go back to gutsy, this is very frustrating, i  make forums posts and irc chats but no reesponse at all from anyone
[07:43] <BunTai> somebody help me...ive install nvidia setting for my LDC projector.....then the dialog at nvidia setting come out like this
[07:43] <BunTai> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[07:43] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, because when you suspend or hibernate the contents of ram are poured into the swap drive...then re-poured back to ram when you return. if you cant save all the ram to the swap drive you will be missing somethings...possibly system operations taht where in ram...
[07:43] <brolly81> do i still need to add this any where /dev/hda1       /media/newdisk     ext3    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:44] <favro> brolly81: yep
[07:44] <BunTai> anybody?
[07:44] <Taiga-SK> psypher246, hardy is my first linux and i thing it §s just great. (not xubuntu though)
[07:44] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, just something to think about
[07:44] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: system operations is one thing.. what about missing paritions?
[07:44] <favro> brolly81: you can add it at the bottom if you like
[07:44] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: well i appreciate the knowledge but that acctually doesnt give me anything useful
[07:44] <psypher246> Taiga-SK: so you are perfectly happy, no issues at all, feel like i'm running Win 3.1 on a 286, it's terrible
[07:45] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, isnt lvm controlled by a daemon? that lives in ram?
[07:45] <xInCasinoOutx> psypher246: hardy is also my first linux and ive been pretty happy with it so far; whats so bad about it that you dont like it?
[07:45] <Taiga-SK> psypher246, i can'ŧ acces my printer but it's a linux-wide problem.
[07:45] <brolly81> favro i pasted it, now?
[07:45] <arooni> what do folks think of envy?
[07:45] <harley_> please how do i install k3b
[07:45] <favro> brolly81: save the file then in terminal   sudo mount -av
[07:45] <BunTai> iFvwm: are you there?
[07:45] <airtonix> psypher246, i've been using ubuntu since breezy...hardy is the best out of them all...
[07:46] <Hamled> what is the correct way to switch between several alternative versions of an executable? (is it okay to just recreate the symlink in /etc/alternatives?)
[07:46] <harley_> and link :-)
[07:46] <airtonix> harley_, sudo apt-get isntall k3b
[07:46] <Flannel> Hamled: update-alternatives
[07:46] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: even so, restarting would correct the issue... it does.. my root partition is GONE.... 10 7
[07:46] <Hamled> thanks
[07:46] <psypher246> nautilus crashes bout 6 times a day, usb copies are terrible slow, can't browse windows pc that have passords, firefox crashes and is terrible slow, apps constanly grey out when you do anything related to disk access
[07:46] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: err it doesnt...
[07:46] <Taiga-SK> arooni, that envy works and is good enough
[07:46] <ganes> what about the swap space if i boot the live cd
[07:46] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: i sit there and watch a splash screen.. eventually it tells me that it cant find my ROOT partition
[07:46] <xInCasinoOutx> psypher: i haven't had any of those problems; you tried hardy on another machine?
[07:46] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, have you tried booting up wit ha livecd and looking to see what might be occuring?
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: im on the LiveCD right now
[07:47] <harley_> couldnt find package
[07:47] <BunTai> somebody help me...ive install nvidia setting for my LDC projector.....then the dialog at nvidia setting come out like this
[07:47] <BunTai> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[07:47] <psypher246> airtonix: also been using it since breezy, and gutsy was the  most stable, hardy is a TERRIBLE
[07:47] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, just ideas since i dont use lvm...
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: but i dont know what to look for? or how for that matter
[07:47] <airtonix> psypher246, strange gutsy was the worst for me
[07:47] <psypher246> i feel bad everytime i i convince someone to use it
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: LVM is nothing more then a partitioning scheme
[07:47] <harley_> ok how about virtual box for ubumtu 5.10
[07:47] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, first you can check if you root partition is acutally gone
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: its just logical instead of physical.
[07:47] <psypher246> and worries that i'm going to have to support them if they do
[07:47] <marlun> I want my server to access a shared folder on my other computer but I don't want the server to have my username and password. I want to create a specific user for the server to access this folder. However I don't want the new user to have a home directory and all that.
[07:48] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: well i see the paritions with "sudo fdisk -ls" but i cant mount them
[07:48] <Taiga-SK> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81bcjyfn6U breezy video. a little off-topic though. :)
[07:48] <harley_> do they even make virtual box for 5.10
[07:49] <xInCasinoOutx> by the way, anyone know of a way to keep windows from going below cairo-dock? im talking about having some sort of barrier for example to keep them above it
[07:49] <psypher246> so no-ones nautilus crashes when u look at it funny? your whole pc does not freeze when you copy something anywhere, samba, usb, the same hard drive
[07:49] <brolly81> favro http://paste.ubuntu.com/47679/
[07:49] <Taiga-SK> marlun, it's possible.
[07:49] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, have you thought about using fsck on the partition?
[07:49] <xInCasinoOutx> psypher246: samba has never worked for me; always crashes
[07:49] <psypher246> i'm trying to copy a file to  samba linux server and can't even get a 300mb to finish
[07:49] <airtonix> psypher246, yes i have ahad my nautilus crash when i look at a folder full of videos
[07:49] <harley_> what ever im done
[07:49] <Taiga-SK> xInCasinoOutx, it works for me. used it trough a guide.
[07:50] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: what exactly is that? im not familiar with the command sorry
[07:50] <psypher246> xInCasinoOutx: what crashes?
[07:50] <xInCasinoOutx> samba
[07:50] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, it stands for filesystem check
[07:50] <psypher246> copying to or from?
[07:50] <airtonix> WIGGMPk, it also might pay to search through the ubuntuforums for similar cases
[07:50] <favro> brolly81: my bad - the /etc/fstab line needed hda1 changed to sda1
[07:50] <xInCasinoOutx> either, it won't let me get any further than opening a file
[07:50] <marlun> Taiga-SK: any ideas? :)
[07:51] <Taiga-SK> what do you think is better? reiserfs or ext3
[07:51] <incadudeF> Hey im tired of pirating vista. How do i start using Ubuntu?
[07:51] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: already been at the forums.. google.. tried system check and boot returns fine but the other error
[07:51] <psypher246> yippeee, yet another: sudo killall nautilus, and a 2 min wait for the machine to waked up
[07:51] <xInCasinoOutx> its not like its not responding, the entire program just closes
[07:51] <airtonix> Taiga-SK, reiserfs kills your wife :)
[07:51] <brolly81> favro so what do i do
[07:51] <ganes> compiling the uclinux throwing error arm-linux-gcc command not found
[07:51] <Taiga-SK> airtonix, wery funny but i'm single
[07:52] <incadudeF> so...
[07:52] <favro> brolly81: sorry - gksu gedit /etc/fstab again and change hda1 to sda1 on the line you added
[07:52] <cih997> hi, i use auto proxy with firefox with ubuntu - can I somehow get info about this auto proxy configuration server and port?
[07:52] <prince_jammys> !install | incadudeF
[07:52] <WIGGMPk> airtonix: i need information off of these partitions,.. i need this fixed so bad
[07:52] <airtonix> Taiga-SK, i prefer ext3
[07:53] <friendlysys> ok heres my situation, i have a copy of my entire /var/lib/mysql from couple days ago.   i was doing some stuff on my database earlier i deleted a row and i need to recover it.  only backup i have is that /var/lib/mysql/[database]  ,  am i safe to just replace that folder in my /var/lib/mysql/[database] ?  will doing this have any catastrophic event like breaking all the other databases in it?
[07:53] <Taiga-SK> marlun, it could be done in console. i read a samba guidde a while ago and i can't help you but i know it's possible so search the net
[07:53] <psypher246> and anyone else having this slow usb copy problem i reead so much about on the forums and bug reports that just does not seem to be getting fixed?
[07:53] <Taiga-SK> airtonix, why ext3?
[07:53] <marlun> Taiga-SK: Ok, will search some more :) thanks!
[07:53] <favro> brolly81: then sudo mount -av again
[07:53] <airtonix> Taiga-SK, because reiserfs isnt being maintained anymore
[07:53] <xInCasinoOutx> psypher: i haven't had any problems at all with it :/
[07:54] <prince_jammys> friendlysys: there's  #mysql
[07:55] <Taiga-SK> airtonix, uh huh so how do i switch to ext3? :)
[07:55] <iFvwm> reiserfs /home , ext3 /
[07:55] <brolly81> favro http://paste.ubuntu.com/47681/
[07:55] <airtonix> Taiga-SK, by backing up your dataz and making new partitions
[07:55] <airtonix> Taiga-SK, only sure way i know...
[07:55] <airtonix> anyway...time to scoot...real life calls
[07:55] <Taiga-SK> yah that's like a week's work
[07:56] <Taiga-SK> i envy him for having a real life :)
[07:56] <favro> brolly81: hmm - can you paste what   sudo fdisk -l   returns?
[07:58] <brolly81> favro http://paste.ubuntu.com/47682/
[07:59] <incadudeF> is there anyway i can check to see if my drivers are compatible with ubuntu?
[07:59] <favro> brolly81: from that sda1 is your last partition?
[08:00] <incadudeF> also can i play Unreal Tournament GOTY on ubuntu
[08:00] <favro> brolly81: and you made it ext3 in the partitioner - or ext2?
[08:00] <brolly81> favro yes its the only large one that i have and it is ext3 like you said
[08:00] <Cheeky> hey iam haveing a huge problem i first installed the hardware drivers in ubuntu (i enabled the retricted driver for my nvdia card); but my online videos were choppy even with the ubuntu restricted extra stuff codecs ... so i thought it was my driver problem and tried to install envng..i did throught synapitic .and restarted .. but nothing happened.. i how do check if my envng was installed ?
[08:00] <favro> k
[08:01] <Taiga-SK> incadudeF, what drivers in particular? and for windows games check the winehq.
[08:02] <favro> brolly81: try in terminal   dmesg | tail
[08:02] <prince_jammys> !blkid
[08:02] <incadudeF> atheros wireless card driver and intel chipset graphics driver also realtek audio drivers
[08:02] <johnwedd> greetings open sourcerers
[08:03] <favro> brolly81: now that we have changed /etc/fstab can you paste it again please?
[08:03] <lunat1que> ciao tlm
[08:03] <Taiga-SK> i ran a command under root and it said: Bad boy! Drop out of the root account and try again.
[08:03] <Taiga-SK>  :)
[08:04] <brolly81> favro http://paste.ubuntu.com/47683/
[08:04] <BunTai> why my wireless using WPA Personal Cant connect again when reboot?help pls...
[08:04] <johnwedd> i was under the impression that root could do anything Taiga-SK
[08:05] <favro> brolly81: now that we have changed /etc/fstab can you paste it again please?
[08:05] <brolly81> favro you lost me, paste what?
[08:05] <favro> brolly81: "EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "utf8" or missing value" - the /etc/fstab file we added the line to
[08:06] <allen> it seems like i have a problem with something called dcopserver, the result is that ubuntu change language on my keyboard and other preferences... what should i do_
[08:06] <brolly81> favro what the command for that i dont remember it
[08:07] <brolly81> sudo something
[08:07] <prince_jammys> cat /etc/fstab
[08:07] <prince_jammys> and paste it
[08:07] <BunTai> why my wireless using WPA Personal Cant connect again when reboot?help pls...
[08:07] <favro> brolly81: gedit /etc/fstab
[08:07] <johnwedd> sudo bang bang, by fav
[08:07] <Cheeky> could anyone help me with then envy..problem?
[08:08] <prince_jammys> are you coveting?
[08:08] <brolly81> favro change what on fstab?
[08:08] <prince_jammys> brolly81: just paste the contents in the pastebin
[08:08] <johnwedd> coveting is fun
[08:08] <favro> brolly81: I just want to have a look incase copy/paste didn't work right
[08:09] <johnwedd> i do it on a regular basis
[08:09] <prince_jammys> johnwedd: maybe you can help the guy who has problems with envy
[08:09] <allen>  it seems like i have a problem with something called dcopserver, the result is that ubuntu change language on my keyboard and other preferences... what should i do_
[08:09] <brolly81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47685/
[08:09] <Cheeky> ok how can i run a test to check if i have gfx acceleration enables in my computer
[08:09] <prince_jammys> allen: have you tried #kubuntu. you're using kde, right?
[08:10] <favro> brolly81: tip - if you use the up arrow with an open terminal it will scroll back through the commands you have used
[08:10] <allen> prince_jammys no i think i am ussing gnome
[08:10] <prince_jammys> allen: oh, ok.
[08:10] <balrog> starcraft wont run on wine. :-( i keep getting a vidinimo_PC.cpp line 160 SetDisplayMode error.  its a real version (bought and paid for, ran on earlier versions of wine).  help?
[08:10] <johnwedd> not likely, i encourage envy, such competitive natures allow for movements such as the FOS and GNU/Lunix
[08:11] <prince_jammys> brolly81: are you unable to mount the windows partition?
[08:11] <chrisbrl88> hey... I just managed to get ubuntu running on this desktop I haven't touched in a while... and the screen resolution won't go higher than 800x600
[08:11] <brolly81> favro ok but i closed and reopened it, i dont have a windows partition
[08:11] <prince_jammys> !fixres | chrisbrl88
[08:11] <Taiga-SK> balrog, it works! (btw http://img1.abload.de/img/bild1dwl.png )
[08:12] <favro> brolly81: now that we have changed /etc/fstab can you paste it again please?
[08:12] <brolly81> prince_jammys i dont have a windows partition
[08:12] <balrog> Taiga-SK: thanks, thats awesome.
[08:12] <favro> !paste | brolly81
[08:12] <Guest53985> hey
[08:12] <Guest53985> guys
[08:12] <Guest53985> help me please
[08:12] <favro> prince_jammys: it is a partition that was formatted and mounted readonly
[08:13] <favro> prince_jammys: brolly81 's issue that is :)
[08:13] <Guest53985> in trying to get tablet features using linux
[08:13] <Guest53985> can any 1 help me
[08:13] <prince_jammys> favro: which, /dev/sda1?
[08:13] <favro> prince_jammys: yep - had the same reaction
[08:14] <favro> prince_jammys: maybe he said goodbye to windows
[08:14] <Guest53985> help
[08:14] <Guest53985> i cant get the tablet features to work
[08:15] <balrog> Guest53985: did you enable the tablet in xorg.conf?
[08:15] <Guest53985> yea
[08:15] <brolly81> prince_jammys no i just did not have that as a option with my awesome partition editor, but that a whole new issue for tommorrow
[08:15] <Guest53985> i went threw the steps
[08:15] <brolly81> favro what now
[08:15] <Guest53985> but mybe ive done something wrog
[08:15] <balrog> Guest53985: what steps did you do?  and what model do you have?
[08:16] <johnwedd> is there a specific room to trade wallpapers for ubuntu and what have you?
[08:16] <Guest53985> i got it off the ourms on ubuntu
[08:16] <favro> brolly81: was waiting for you to tell us the url of the pasted fstab file :)
[08:16] <sfer2> Could you give a link?
[08:16] <Guest53985> i have the fujitsu stylistic st5032
[08:16] <balrog> Guest53985: can i have the link?
[08:16] <jigp> hello guys how to configure the desktop?i dont see icons even Accessories or Menus... :(
[08:16] <Guest53985> let me find it
[08:17] <brolly81> favro if you have a command or !paste, let me know where to but that command, i dont if it's for the terminal or something else. i am completely new to this
[08:18] <prince_jammys> didn't you just paste it a couple minutes ago in http://paste.ubuntu.com/47685/
[08:18] <favro> brolly81: you pasted the file the file before - http://paste.ubuntu.com/47682/
[08:18] <sfer2> jigp: Could you explain your problem a little more?
[08:18] <Taiga-SK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47686/ please help
[08:19] <favro> brolly81: gedit /etc/fstab will open the file
[08:19] <Guest53985> hey http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765915 here it is
[08:19] <brolly81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47687/ and here it is again
[08:20] <Taiga-SK> watcom c++?
[08:20] <brolly81> favro i have not done anything to file yet, you havent told me to modify anything yet
[08:20] <favro> brolly81: my bad again
[08:20] <freaky[t]> hi all. does anyone know how i can change the language of console applications?
[08:20] <favro> brolly81: the line we added - you need to take the utf8 out
[08:21] <favro> brolly81: gksu gedit /etc/fstab   to open it for editing
[08:21] <prince_jammys> Taiga-SK: did you try to install 'zapping' though APT?
[08:21] <balrog> Guest53985: thats not a drawign tablet is it?  its a whole laptop with a tablet screen, right?
[08:21] <Cheeky> can anyon please help me  with the nvidia driver problem?
[08:21] <comicinker1> hi, I tried to replace the window manager in xfce with openbox by typing "openbox --replace". however I receive the error message "cannot close window manager". I started X with startx
[08:21] <Guest53985> yea its a whole laptop with tablet screen
[08:22] <Taiga-SK> prince_jammys, yes but it has bugs. nannot access preferences
[08:22] <darren> Good Morning to all.
[08:22] <Taiga-SK> cannot*
[08:22] <rohit> hiiiiiii
[08:22] <saintbo_> want to start playing with ubuntu but don't want to lose all the stuff i've setup so far.  Whats a backup that I can use in the widow environment ?
[08:23]  * anewbie GOOOD MOOORNING VIEEEEETNAAAAAAM !!!!!
[08:23] <favro> brolly81: then   sudo mount -av
[08:23] <prince_jammys> saintbo_: you're talking about backing up your application settings?
[08:23] <Cheeky> saintbo_:  you should have put / in a different partions that way .. its easier to get back if you fall down .. you knw wat i mean
[08:23] <Guest53985> so whats up man do you know whats wronf
[08:24] <darren> OK i have a very hard question for all you very experianced linux people. How to i change my text in xchat to a nice blue, and when i recive a reply from some one in red? been playing but dont want to keep testing in the room.
[08:24] <saintbo_> everything
[08:24] <balrog> Guest53985: as far as i can tell, the guide you used is for drawing tablets (or tablets that have a usb interface).  it should be as easy as uncommenting the lines in xorg.conf and then hitting ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X.  it may be best to use a livecd first.
[08:24] <Guest53985> ok so how do i do that?
[08:25] <darren> ok
[08:25] <darren> still grey
[08:25] <Guest53985> this thing does not have a CD drive all i got is a USB
[08:26] <brolly81> favro i took the utf8 out and the it says i dont have the premission necessary to save file
[08:26] <favro> brolly81: to have admin rights you need to use   gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[08:27] <bhindi> hy
[08:27] <bhindi> need help
[08:27] <favro> brolly81: so close the open one without saving
[08:27] <yugo> Anyone resolved vmware-config fail issue on ubuntu 8.10?
[08:27] <balrog> Guest53985: how did you load ubuntu on it to begin with?
[08:27] <bhindi> when i give sudo cmd
[08:27] <arooni> how do i turn my flash drive into something that can flash my bios (from within ubuntu)
[08:27] <bhindi> this message appear
[08:27] <Guest53985> i used a live USB
[08:27] <bhindi> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <bhindi> Building dependency tree
[08:28] <Sobaka> Hi people. Can somebody tell me in which directory gnome stores panel data? I want to copy this to the /etc/skel dir, so new users will get the icons I want them to have in their panel
[08:28] <brolly81> favro: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vljlhu&s=4
[08:28] <bhindi> Reading state information... Done
[08:28] <bhindi> E: Couldn't find package proxychains-3.1
[08:28] <bhindi> wats prob
[08:28] <bhindi> plz tell me
[08:28] <saintbo_> the number i'm seeing to the left says there are 1236 users is this correct?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> bhindi: what command did you run?
[08:29] <bhindi> sudo apt-get install proxychains-3.1
[08:29] <bhindi> thats 1
[08:29] <brolly81> favro if i cant save it utf8 stays on there and so how do i get rid of utf8 if i dont save it? im trying to follow you
[08:29] <prince_jammys> bhindi: try just sudo apt-get install proxychains
[08:29] <favro> brolly81: to have admin rights you need to use   gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[08:29] <favro> brolly81: so close the open one without saving
[08:29] <bhindi> proks plz wait
[08:30] <brolly81> favro ok
[08:30] <favro> :)
[08:30] <darren> ok i have a question for all, does any one know if it is possible to update my usb chipset from ubuntu
[08:30] <w6> tes
[08:30] <arooni> how do i turn my flash drive into something that can flash my bios (from within ubuntu)
[08:30] <bhindi> thathanxs sir
[08:31] <prince_jammys> bhindi: welcome
[08:31] <bhindi> prin
[08:31] <patrick> so whats up man
[08:31] <patrick> do you think u can help me
[08:31] <bhindi> and plz tell me where i can find socks search software for ubuntu
[08:31] <prince_jammys> bhindi: in the future, you can do 'apt-cache search proxych' for example, to see matching package names.
[08:32] <Guest74458> can you help ne
[08:32] <balrog> Guest53985: my suggestion would be to setup another liveusb and try it with that
[08:32] <balrog> !ask | Guest74458
[08:32] <Cheeky> can anyone tell me how i can run this in computer i downloaded the file to desktop and changed the permissoin 777 on it ..and ran it but it says i have to install it as root this what i downloaded regarding nvidia driver :http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.12.html
[08:32] <Guest74458> i do have a live USB still
[08:33] <balrog> Cheeky: is there any reason you arent using the restricted drivers manager or envyng?
[08:33] <saintbo_> want to start playing with ubuntu but don't want to lose all the stuff i've setup so far.  Whats a backup that I can use in the widow environment ?
[08:33] <balrog> Guest53985: i would use that then, that way you know what the xorg.conf should look like
[08:34] <balrog> saintbo_: you know you can use the livecd without installing anything to your hard drive, right?
[08:34] <kwak> hi, i installed hardy in vmware server today and i'm getting BUG soft lockup. how do I correct this
[08:34] <brolly81> favro http://paste.ubuntu.com/47689/   and http://paste.ubuntu.com/47691/
[08:35] <Cheeky> balrog: i am in a mess actuall i first installed the restricted driver .. but some stuff didnt work even though i installed the codecs for it so then wat i did was install envy but then nothing happened after i installed the envy it didnt prompt me to restart nothing so i dunno wat i have installed .. so how can i remove bothe driver installtion and just install envy from the start ?
[08:35] <Guest53985> i dont understand what ur asking me
[08:35] <Guest53985> well i installed it it ddint work
[08:35] <brolly81> favro that is everything that you told me to do up this point
[08:35] <Guest53985> how am i suppose to look at sommething that never worked in the 1st place
[08:35] <balrog> Guest53985: tablets arent automatically detected in ubuntu, but they make it as easy as possible to manually enable them.
[08:36] <saintbo_> how much messing around can you do from the cd?
[08:36] <balrog> saintbo_: everything but kernel updates
[08:36] <favro> brolly81: I'm making it hard
[08:37] <Guest53985> oh
[08:37] <saintbo_> hmmmmmm well i've put it into my notebooks along with xp and a shared hd so have room to back up
[08:37] <brolly81> favro i just want to save files to my hard drive, lmao
[08:37] <balrog> Guest53985: do you have ubuntu installed or is it just running from the liveusb?
[08:37] <Guest53985> i have it installed
[08:37] <Guest53985> i been trying to get this thing to work i just dont know how to mess with the xorg
[08:38] <fo_x86> hello, I'm implementing a simple server-client communication using sockets in c, whenever my client does a connect() it times out, here is the code to my server and client respectively    http://pastebin.com/d5297aed1    http://pastebin.com/d63ee8d93    any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:38] <Sobaka> Hi people. Can somebody tell me in which directory gnome stores panel data? I want to copy this to the /etc/skel dir, so new users will get the icons I want them to have in their panel
[08:38] <brolly81> favro this crap is hard and now my sound doesnt work, lol
[08:39] <brolly81> favro im totally serious about my sound can you fix it, lmaooooooooooo
[08:39] <hoonteke> is there a canonical way to change cron tab entries?  As opposed to mucking about with the /etc/cron.*/ dirs and files?
[08:39] <Cheeky> how do get ride on envy and redtricted driver for nvidia from my computer so i cant start from scratch with the driver installation ?
[08:40] <hoonteke> Cheeky: System->Administration->Synaptic
[08:40] <balrog> Guest53985: i would boot from the liveusb.  then, goto Accessories > Terminal  and type in "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (without the quotes) and hit enter.  a text editor will popup with a file loaded.  at that point, come back here and pastebin (copy and paste) the file here: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:40] <hoonteke> search for nvidia and envy
[08:40] <thenetduck> can someone help me load a module into my kernel for ubuntu? I haven't done this before and am not sure what I should/shouldn't be doing
[08:40] <ushimitsudoki> hoonteke: crontab -e ?
[08:40] <saintbo_> I'm also looking for a good explanation of the command line instruction in terminal mode?
[08:41] <balrog> Guest53985: after that, i will be able to tell you the edits to do to the file, and then you should apply those edits (theyre removing 3 characters, its easy).  then after you hit ctrl+alt+backspace, it should logout, log you back in, and the tablet should work
[08:41] <hoonteke> ushimitsudoki: for non-ubuntu system, yes.  But ubuntu is using anacron and things are a bit ... different
[08:41] <waan> thenetduck, man modprobe
[08:41] <balrog> Guest53985: sounds a lot more convoluted than it actually is
[08:41] <Cheeky> hoonteke: thats for envy only right ?
[08:41] <favro> brolly81: don't know why you get the bad superblocks bit unless your format went wrong - someone else might know more
[08:41] <Guest53985> ok so once i pop in the USB it c>
[08:41] <hoonteke> Cheeky: try a search for nvidia as well
[08:41] <brolly81> favro i thought this would as simple as you telling me, "all you need to do it right click and hit use to save file or something"  but jesus
[08:41] <Guest53985> it pop up 3 optiob and i gotta pick the first right?
[08:42] <balrog> Guest53985: i dont understand, what happens?
[08:42] <thenetduck> waan do I need to unpack the module first? It's called hdaps_ec im running hardy heron
[08:43] <brolly81> favro its cool whatever man you tried, ill give you props you know more then me
[08:43] <favro> brolly81: I've never had issues - but I am not working long distance doing it here
[08:43] <Guest53985> like when i retart my comp the usb doesntstart up unless i pop it in the while in the log in
[08:43] <Taiga-SK> aww kernel modules are a hard thing
[08:43] <m_e_abbott> Is there any good documentation on how to make arpwatch send local mail?
[08:43] <balrog> saintbo_: gimme a sec to find a good guide to the terminal
[08:43] <saintbo_> k
[08:44] <balrog> saintbo_: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/friday-fun-useful-linux-terminal-commands-for-new-users/
[08:44] <Cheeky> hoonteke: if i wanted to scratch wat exactly do i remove from my packet manager and then install again .. how do i know which one is the resdricted driver ..  and which ones are envy ?
[08:44] <Sertse> how do I make a hmm window/program
[08:44] <Sertse> not show up on the taskbar
[08:44] <balrog> saintbo_: i dont know how to answer your question about backing up in windows though, sorry...
[08:45] <Taiga-SK> Cheeky, how about installing through envyng program?
[08:45] <hardaysknight> can anyone help me with irssi channel autojoin?
[08:45] <waan> thenetduck, do you have a thinkpad t60?
[08:45] <hosstest> anyone know of a nice process/resource/netstat monitor that can rest on the desktop.  Kinda like an all in one system mon?
[08:45] <Sertse> conky?
[08:45] <thenetduck> waan, R61
[08:45] <m_e_abbott> can anyone help me with arpwatch localmail?
[08:45] <hoonteke> Cheeky: as far as I know, envy only uses apt, so whatever you remove, it's cool.  Envy be able to reverse whatever you do
[08:45] <thenetduck> waan ThinkPad R61
[08:45] <Cheeky> Taiga-SK: how do i that ... i mean i did install envy through synaptic
[08:45] <hoonteke> my suggestion, whatever nvidia packages are installed, just flat remove 'em.
[08:45] <saintbo_> checking it out thanks and still looking for the window app to do a full backup of linux to a shared drive.
[08:46] <hoonteke> if it doesn't work, here's the recipe you'll need to get it back from the commandline
[08:46] <waan> thenetduck, ok, and the module is for active protection system right?
[08:46] <hoonteke> Cheeky: apt-cache search nvidia | less
[08:46] <thenetduck> waan correct :)
[08:46] <Taiga-SK> Cheeky, ok run it
[08:46] <hoonteke> that's a pipe character, usually above the \ key on the keyboard
[08:46] <thenetduck> waan I was using thinkwiki for informait n
[08:46] <thenetduck> waan information
[08:46] <Sertse> heh
[08:46] <hoonteke> then apt-get install whatever-packages you-need
[08:46] <balrog> Guest53985: so the liveusb works when you are logged into windows?
[08:47] <Cheeky> hoonteke: it spat out a lot of stuff .. which one do i download ?
[08:47] <waan> thenetduck, hehe yeah that's what I'm reading, but I only found a t60 wiki
[08:47] <Taiga-SK> alt+w is pipe
[08:47] <hoonteke> Cheeky: this is the rough part of Linux / Ubuntu.  You'll have to experiment.
[08:47] <Taiga-SK> right alt+w *
[08:47] <hoonteke> Cheeky: it depends on what hardware you've got, what exactly you're trying to do, etc.
[08:48] <thenetduck> waan It should be the same, they all use the same hardware, at least that I am aware of... Apples and ThinkPads ...
[08:48] <hoonteke> Cheeky: google is your friend as well, if "the right" people aren't on this channel to help right now.
[08:48] <Cheeky> hoonteke: iam trying to get my dirvers for my nvidia 6600 working
[08:48] <hardaysknight> can anyone help me with irssi channel autojoin?
[08:48] <hoonteke> Cheeky: I'm surprised that Envy didn't "just work" then?
[08:48] <thenetduck> waan I found the module when I typed in dpkg -S hdaps_ec but I don't really know where to go from there
[08:49] <Guest53985> yea balrog
[08:49] <waan> ok, you just need to add it to /etc/modules then I think
[08:49] <thenetduck> waan I unpack it? configure it? then install it with modprobe?
[08:49] <balrog> Guest53985: does the usb work before windows boots?
[08:49] <Guest53985> no
[08:50] <Guest53985> but i can get another comuter to do that
[08:50] <Cheeky> hoonteke: could i pm if you dont mind ?
[08:50] <hoonteke> Cheeky: fire away
[08:50] <Guest53985> since i have a cd  with linux
[08:50] <waan> thenetduck, no, just try adding to /etc/modules
[08:51] <ikt> test
[08:51] <waan> thenetduck, gksu gedit /etc/modules
[08:52] <Guest53985> so what should i do
[08:53] <zhaozhou> Guest53985, boot it?
[08:53] <waan> thenetduck, then just add hdaps_ec to the bottom
[08:53] <balrog> Guest53985: how did you install linux in the first place?  did you boot into windows first and install it from there, or did you boot into the livecd?
[08:54] <thenetduck> waan ok
[08:54] <Taiga-SK> how can you install linux under windows. that's nonsense
[08:54] <Guest53985> on this one i booted from the window xp using the live USB
[08:54] <zhaozhou> Oh, hdaps_ec <3
[08:54] <thenetduck> waan what does modeprobe do then?
[08:54] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, loads it at boot-time
[08:54] <hax0r> can some1 help me to configure kopote to connect through proxy
[08:54] <waan> thenetduck, it's for adding modules on the fly
[08:55] <balrog> Taiga-SK: its called wubi, and its far from nonsense
[08:55] <thenetduck> waan is it the same thing as me just adding it to /etc/modules?
[08:55] <Taiga-SK> waan, no but i coud help you with pidgin. what say you?
[08:55] <zhaozhou> hax0r, modprobe loads it for now, /etc/modules loads it next time you boot aswell
[08:55] <KoN3838> greetings!
[08:55] <Taiga-SK> balrog, why should i have windows just to install linux?
[08:55] <Guest53985> well what do you think i should do
[08:56] <Guest53985> should i just go too the boot option where i dont install anything
[08:56] <balrog> Taiga-SK: you dont have to have windows to install linux.  wubi is meant to allow people to install linux without going through the pain of repartitioning their hard drive.
[08:56] <waan> thenetduck, as zhaozhou said, modprobe loads it now, /etc/modprobe loads it for each boot
[08:56] <clarence_> how to edit /etc//etc/modprobe.d of the blacklist?
[08:57] <balrog> Guest53985: yes, boot into the option where you dont install anything
[08:57] <Guest53985> ok
[08:57] <Taiga-SK> balrog, well repartitioning is better imo but never mind
[08:57] <waan> Taiga-SK, pidgin?
[08:57] <hax0r> zhaozhou can u nplease clarify a littloe more should i edit something in that file am running gnome but i'de like to use kopote
[08:57] <thenetduck> waan ok great! thanks, how do I know if it worked? is there a way to check it?
[08:57] <Guest53985> ok 1 sec
[08:57] <balrog> Taiga-SK: repartitioning is better by any measure except for ease of use.  its not easy for newbies to repartition.
[08:57] <zhaozhou> hax0r, Wrong nick, sorry. :-)
[08:58] <Taiga-SK> waan, an alternative to kopete witch i don't have
[08:58] <waan> thenetduck, reboot I suppose, but I don't exactly know what that modules does, I guess some power management stuffs?
[08:58] <waan> Taiga-SK, I think you got the wrong nick
[08:58] <thomasite> Hello.
[08:58] <ogzy> clarence_, run gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:58] <zhaozhou> hax0r, You, however, could add a global proxy, right?
[08:58] <thenetduck> waan ya, hard drive tilt and load/unload stuff.. Ok I think I can figure it out from here. Thanks!
[08:58] <Taiga-SK> waan, explain!
[08:59] <thomasite> I have a question: What is/are the difference/s between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? I know that the former is KDE and the latter is Gnome, but which of the two is better? Thanks.
[08:59] <waan> thenetduck, no probs
[08:59] <hax0r> zhaozhou yess i can
[08:59] <waan> Taiga-SK, I think you are speaking to the wrong person, I already use pidgin
[08:59] <patrick> hey its me on another computer
[08:59] <hax0r> i can connect through pidgin
[08:59] <patrick> im going to boot up my computer now
[08:59] <Taiga-SK> who was asking for kopete then?
[09:00] <ClarenceHuang> OK! I'm opened
[09:00] <thenetduck> sweet its working ya!!!!
[09:00] <ogzy> thomasite, the difference is mainly the desktops, you better try their live cd and see it by yourself
[09:00] <balrog> Taiga-SK: hax0r was
[09:00] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, boojah! now you can play neverball with you'r laptop!
[09:00] <ClarenceHuang>  What Should I do after open that file?
[09:01] <gypsymauro> hi
[09:01] <Er_Killo_2008> buenos
[09:01] <waan> Taiga-SK, do you use musictracker?
[09:01] <dinesh_> anyone send me link for dowloading  broadcombcm94311mcg
[09:01] <chubs> thomasite, neither is necessarily better, but more people use ubuntu with gnome
[09:01] <thenetduck> zhaozhou, ha! .. yes!... err.. neverball sounds fun... .hehe
[09:01] <Er_Killo_2008> dias alguno que hable espagnol o italiano
[09:01] <Taiga-SK> waan, nope. what is that?
[09:01] <Er_Killo_2008> tengo un problema
[09:01] <ogzy> Er_Killo_2008, buenas dias
[09:01] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, It sure is!  I want to logon on ubuntu client using same users of windows
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> no
[09:02] <thomasite> Thanks for the opinions.
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> im sorry
[09:02] <ogzy> Er_Killo_2008, tienes que hablar ingles :)
[09:02] <thenetduck> zhaozhou, sudo apt-install neverball ...heheheh
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> lo se
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> pero
[09:02] <Guest77608> ok balrog boot from my live usb now
[09:02] <thomasite> Ogzy, what is in the desktop of Kubuntu? I've been using Ubuntu for months now.
[09:02] <chubs> !es | Er_Killo_2008
[09:02] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, :D
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> quiero poner el virtualbox
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> y me da un problema
[09:02] <Er_Killo_2008> quiero emular windows dentro de linux
[09:02] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, Come back to me if you axises arent right, you can try those out with hdaps-gl
[09:02] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, if you have hdaps-utils installed
[09:02] <ClarenceHuang> My ubuntu 8.04  booting speed is too slow, so I was return the 7.10
[09:03] <chubs> Er_Killo_2008, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:03] <ClarenceHuang> someone tells me can use that file, but I found that's a text tile, and I don't know how to edit
[09:04] <ogzy> thomasite, KDE is the desktop of Kubuntu
[09:04] <Guest77608> when i boot from a live usb after it retarts it asks me whcih OS do i want to use to i click XP or UBUNTO
[09:04] <Taiga-SK> what does K in KDE mean?
[09:04] <thomasite> Yes, but would the desktop look better in KDE?
[09:04] <thenetduck> zhaozhou, I think they are in reverse or maybe thats a game thing? hey when you tilt your laptop can you hear your cpu fan grinding?
[09:04] <zhaozhou> Taiga-SK, kewl desktop enviroment ;)
[09:04] <thomasite> (Pardon my ignorance on these matters.)
[09:04] <chubs> Taiga-SK, K
[09:04] <dinesh_> >	anyone send me link for dowloading broadcombcm94311mcg
[09:04] <dinesh_> >	anyone send me link for dowloading broadcombcm94311mcg
[09:05] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, Err, no. But i can if my CD is spinning.
[09:05] <Taiga-SK> what does kewl mean?
[09:05] <zhaozhou> Taiga-SK, That was a joke, kewl is just an acronym.
[09:05] <dinesh_> >	anyone send me link for dowloading broadcombcm94311mcg
[09:05] <zhaozhou> dinesh_, Stop it.
[09:05] <chubs> thomasite, it's really a matter of preference. what looks better to you may not to me or anyone else. i'd suggest looking at screenshots from both
[09:06] <dinesh_> zhaozhou: no one is answering me
[09:06] <zhaozhou> dinesh_, noone know's where it is
[09:06] <chubs> thomasite, they're identical past the deskstop environment so if you don't like gnome you can uninstall it and try kde and vice versa
[09:06] <zhaozhou> dinesh_, If they knew, they would, the first time.
[09:06] <thomasite> Okay. Thanks. :)
[09:07] <thomasite> I have a real bad problem: Rhythmbox has been behaving oddly these days. It just freezes. :(
[09:07] <dinesh_> zhaozhou: ok it means that no one knows the link
[09:07] <zhaozhou> dinesh_, Exactly.  I think it hits my laptop case when I move my computer. I am still under warrenty I wonder if I can get a new fan
[09:09] <sinan> I am having permission problems with my partitions. I can't create files correctly on my FAT partitions. I think the problem is with fstab, anyone can help?
[09:09] <Guest77608> damn i need help with my tablet PC
[09:09] <Guest77608> im trying to use Linux
[09:10] <Junkee> I just reinstalled ubuntu after a brief relapse of having to use Windows
[09:10] <Junkee> I plan on trying new things now that I am back, I'll add smplayer to the list :)
[09:10] <dinesh_> zhaozhou: hey what happen
[09:10] <Taiga-SK> sinan, can'ŧ you just edit fstab? if not paste it here
[09:10] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi#HDAPS_axis_orientation there you have the orientations you can use, in the file /etc/modprobe.d/options you insert the line "options hdaps_ec invert=number"
[09:10] <Taiga-SK> to pastebin
[09:10] <chubs> amarok is still the best
[09:10] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: pastebin your fstab
[09:10] <sacul> chubs: new banshee is amazing
[09:11] <zhaozhou> thenetduck, you can just try everyone out, for me it was 1, for a friend it was 6
[09:11] <Junkee> I would install it, but don't feel like downloading/installing a ton of kde libs and other packages
[09:11] <chubs> sacul, how new?
[09:11] <Junkee> just to run one application
[09:11] <sinan> Taiga-SK, danbh_intrepid: I do not have enough experience to deal with fstab. Find it here: http://pastie.org/273957
[09:11] <sacul> chubs: running 1.3 from svn
[09:11] <sinan> the problem is with /media/files
[09:11] <bhindi>  sudo apt-get install prxtools
[09:11] <bhindi>  Reading package lists... Done
[09:11] <bhindi>  Building dependency tree
[09:11] <bhindi>  Reading state information... Done
[09:11] <bhindi>  E: Couldn't find package prxtools
[09:11] <bhindi> plz
[09:11] <Junkee> I do admit that I am sad that they are porting amarok to windows
[09:11] <magnetron> !paste > bhindi
[09:11] <chubs> sacul, have you tried amarok 2 beta?
[09:11] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: so, the folder is /media/windows?
[09:11] <sacul> chubs: no
[09:12] <chubs> sacul, it is also amazing
[09:12] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: no, /media/files/
[09:12] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: well, i guess both :) but i am now facing the problem with /media/files/
[09:12] <dinesh_> bhindi: is bhindhi means lady finger
[09:12] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: and you want full permissions?
[09:12] <sacul> chubs: will have to take a look.  i hack plugs on gnome-do and we had a lot of problems with amarok.  banshee is working with us now :)
[09:12] <sacul> chubs: they wrote a dbus interface with us in mind
[09:12] <danish> plz sir
[09:12] <dinesh_> bhindi: send me link for dowloading broadcombcm94311mcg
[09:12] <Taiga-SK> sinan, omg mine is much simpler
[09:13] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: yes. I want it to act "normal" :)
[09:13] <chubs> sacul, well that was kind of them. Yeah amarok and gnome don't always seem to go together as well as i'd like
[09:13] <sinan> Taiga-SK: can you help me make mine simple ? :P
[09:13] <hischild> How can i take a screenshot of my login screen?
[09:13] <sacul> chubs: one of the reasons why i started playing with other players and ended up on banshee
[09:13] <Junkee> hischild: print screen button?
[09:13] <Junkee> then paste into an image editing program
[09:14] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: well, you can try changing the umask to 000
[09:14] <danish> plz help me
[09:14] <hischild> Junkee, the login screen .... not the normal screen .... prntscreen wont work then ...
[09:14] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: ... doesn't that cause a security problem?
[09:14] <bhindi> plz help me
[09:14] <chubs> sacul, the one thing about banshee that i hated was its startup time, having to wait for all my music files to load in that one playlist. I really like the tree style of amarok
[09:14] <hischild> !ask | bhindi and danish
[09:14] <Remorse_> Hi
[09:15] <hischild> !pm | bhindi
[09:15] <sacul> chubs: one thing i miss from amarok was mysql integration
[09:15] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: yeah, but isnt that what you are looking for?
[09:15] <visik7> is there a way to cheat update-manager that I've do a reboot ?
[09:15] <hischild> visik7, why would you want that?
[09:15] <sacul> sacul: that made amarok uber fast
[09:15] <sacul> chubs: ^
[09:15] <Remorse_> no
[09:16] <Flannel> visik7: update-manager doesn't care if you reboot or not.  It won't ever force you.
[09:16] <visik7> hischild: 'couse it ask me for reboot when I don't need it
[09:16] <Taiga-SK> sinan, my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/47701/
[09:16] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: i don't want to compromise my system, i want it to act "normal" :)
[09:16] <hischild> visik7, when it asks you to reboot it has a reason for it.
[09:16] <chubs> sacul, yeah, I use that on my music server. amarok 2 got rid of most of their support for other db's so it's mysql only now. hopefully that means even further optimizations
[09:16] <visik7> Flannel: it display that stupid icon
[09:16] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: "normal"?
[09:16] <Flannel> visik7: just kill update manager.
[09:16] <visik7> hischild: I can do the restart of my services by myself, I don't need to reboot for an hal or network manager or even a driver upgrade
[09:16] <visik7> Flannel: in that way I'm no more notified of any upgrades
[09:17] <bhindi> ok sir can i pm u plzzz sir hischild
[09:17] <sacul> chubs: will definately have to play.. though no do plugin love till its released :)
[09:17] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: just like an EXT3 partition would act.
[09:17] <hischild> bhindi, no. Please ask your question in this channel.
[09:17] <Flannel> visik7: you could restart it later.  It'll also restart when you reboot your comptuer
[09:17] <bhindi> can i paste  it
[09:17] <hischild> bhindi, on a pastebin, yes. NOT in this channel.
[09:17] <chubs> sacul, oh well. I'm using kde 4.1.1 right now anyways :) don't tell ;)
[09:17] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: and what exactly do you mean?  please just be direct.  fat32 is fat32, its not ext3
[09:18] <sacul> chubs: kde always felt bloated to me
[09:18] <bhindi> when i install some software thiss error found
[09:18] <g33k_gir1> so, I used "free -g" to display my ram, and it says 9 GB for swap, 13GB in total? thats not right... I only installed 8GB, and surely that ratio of swap to regular ram isn't optimal?
[09:18] <chubs> sacul, agreed. I heard kde4 was less so and I gave it a try. It's now less bloated than gnome i daresay, I'm loving it
[09:19] <nbjayme> hello all.  i am doing port forwarding ssh -L.   How do i prevent it from asking me a linux password in remote box? thanks in advance.
[09:19] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: my applications are not being able to read my files. I want my applications to be able to read my files, without having to run them in sudo, and without making my files 777.
[09:19] <danish> sorry
[09:19] <danish> for dc
[09:20] <IamSOG> I think you can't really control your connection :D
[09:20] <zhaozhou> sinan, make sure it's executable
[09:20] <Junkee> chubs: how less bloated is 4 compared to 3?
[09:20] <hischild> nbjayme, you can use public / private key if the issue is concerning logging in on the remote box.
[09:20] <pan__> can xchat ctcp like mirc?
[09:20] <zhaozhou> sinan, well, the directory the application needs to be executable anyhow
[09:20] <Junkee> pan__: yes
[09:20] <danish> hischild:
[09:20] <sacul> Junkee: thats a loaded question
[09:20] <zhaozhou> sinan, the file should only be readable as the application user
[09:21] <chubs> Junkee, I think there were figures online saying in most places up to 40% smaller footprint
[09:21] <Junkee> hmm, time to do some research lol
[09:21] <danish> sir this error found
[09:21] <chubs> Junkee, it feels amazing though. I'll see if i can find it
[09:21] <danish> hischild:
[09:21] <pan__> how do i ctcp with xchat?
[09:21] <sinan> zhaozhou: what do you mean by "the application user"?
[09:21] <pan__> if given triggers?
[09:21] <Junkee> i usually am a minimalist, but cant stand running window managers like flux, etc.
[09:22] <zhaozhou> sinan, All applications are run as a user
[09:22] <pan__> fluxbox is awsome
[09:22] <danish> plz hischild will u see this
[09:22] <pan__> gots to learn to use it
[09:22] <hischild> !pm | danish
[09:22] <zhaozhou> sinan, if it's a daemon then most has his own user, otherwise it's often you
[09:22] <danish> thanxs
[09:22] <Junkee> enlightenment would be the only other window manager I would consider trying
[09:22] <sinan> zhaozhou: this is what is confusing, how come my applications can read my files, then ?
[09:23] <Junkee> sinan: they have hax
[09:23] <Junkee> :P
[09:23] <danish> u told me pm me danish
[09:23] <balrog> Guest77608:
[09:23] <zhaozhou> sinan, For example, i assume you are in x-chat right now? x-chat is run as you, therefore, all files _you_ can read, x-chat can read. All files _you_ can edit, x-chat can edit.
[09:23] <balrog> Guest77608: sorry, stepped out for a bit
[09:23] <danish> is that any other person which plz me
[09:23] <danish>  plz
[09:24] <chubs> Junkee, fluxbox is so fantastic
[09:24] <hischild> danish, i have done no such thing.
[09:24] <balrog> Guest77608: youre the guy with the tablet issues, no?
[09:24] <zhaozhou> sinan, It's as simple as that, always.
[09:24] <danish> wats thing
[09:24] <danish> mr hischild
[09:24] <hischild> danish, tell you to pm me.
[09:24] <Junkee> chubs: I have ADHD and its hard for me to sit there and config fluxbox to my liking :P
[09:24] <zhaozhou> sinan, With one exception, applications can't use a non-executable directory.
[09:24] <danish> i do pm u
[09:24] <sinan> zhaozhou: i am in weechat-curses. I understand you point (now). For some reason, the files I am creating are not being read by my applications (probably after each restart, although I am not 100% positive). There is a problem. Can you help me find it and solve it?
[09:24] <danish> then u said why pm me
[09:24] <danish> is this joke
[09:24] <danish> ha hischild
[09:25] <XDi> hello all
[09:25] <hischild> danish, please don't pm me without asking first in this channel. I have not asked you to PM me.
[09:25] <zhaozhou> sinan, Hopefully. What files are the applications making?
[09:25] <zhaozhou> sinan, Some kind of configuration files?
[09:25] <Junkee> chubs: I found some numbers on kde 3.5.9 vs 4
[09:25] <Junkee> it does look promising
[09:26] <zhaozhou> sinan, Oh. What files are _you_ making. :-)
[09:26] <chubs> Junkee, link me
[09:26] <n3nvidia><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:26] <sinan> zhaozhou: one of the problems i am facing, for example, is related to checking out from svn. I'll make a pastie.
[09:26] <Junkee> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/13/2314206
[09:26] <hischild> Junkee, can you link me as well? curious.
[09:26] <Junkee> i meant 3.5.8 not .9
[09:26] <Junkee> sorry
[09:26]  * xnv doesn't understand why people are so sensitive about PMs.
[09:26]  * zhaozhou neither
[09:27] <chubs> Junkee, yeah I remember that article, that one is actually misleading so I was trying to find a different one.
[09:27] <sacul> xnv: zhaozhou: cuz the people in here that answer questions a lot would be inundated with them constantly
[09:27] <zhaozhou> sinan, Sure... although i do now know nearly nothing about svn.
[09:27] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: the utf8 option is for ntfs filesystems, not fat32...
[09:27] <hateball> Any way I can get Evolution to stop opening a new mail when I delete a currently opened one?
[09:27] <xnv> sacul: So ask them not to. No need for the whole channel to hear about it.
[09:27] <hischild> xnv, zhaozhou, the thing for me personally is that if i am helping someone and make a mistake, everyone here can correct me.
[09:28] <sinan> zhaozhou: http://pastie.org/273959
[09:28] <XDi> when 8.10 is released stable would hardharon update automatically?
[09:28] <hischild> XDi, no. It will give you the option to.
[09:28] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: should i just delete this option?
[09:28] <XDi> I see
[09:28] <zhaozhou> sacul, inundated... thank's for that. : D /me learns english
[09:28] <Taiga-SK> XDi, i don't think so
[09:28] <XDi> So there really isn't a reason to wait for stable version then
[09:29] <balrog> Guest77608: alright, so, now that you are booted into the liveusb, you need to go to Accessories > Terminal.  Type in "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" without the quotes and hit enter.  A text editor with a file loaded should pop up.  You will need to remove the # symbols from the lines that look like  	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents" 	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"...
[09:29] <balrog> ...	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents" Then save the file, and hold down the ctrl and alt keys as you press the backspace key.  you will be logged out, logged back in (after a countdown) and the tablet should work.
[09:29] <chubs> Junkee, here's a better one: http://www.linux.com/feature/142661
[09:29] <XDi> if it's pretty simple to upgrade anyway
[09:29] <Junkee> ty chubs
[09:29] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: I suppose so.  I dont think I can help you without knowing the actual error that happening
[09:29] <zhaozhou> The only reason why i would'nt do PM is if i could'nt help... then i would be a waste of time and a dissapointment.
[09:29] <Flannel> XDi: Sure there is.  Stability is important.
[09:29] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: error here: http://pastie.org/273959
[09:30] <zhaozhou> sinan, Ah... that file, what's the permissions on it?
[09:30] <sacul> From_Autumn_To_Ashes++
[09:30] <xnv> hischild: It's just weird when people take their PM convo into the channel instead of just responding to the PM by asking to ask again in the channel. It's like some people avoid PMs at all costs. That's what I don't understand.
[09:30] <XDi> flannel I mean, I want to install ubuntu but I suppose not waiting for 8.10 and install 8.04 again is fine because an upgrade would be simple
[09:30] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: well, that makes sense, you cant set permissions on a fat32 system.  Permissions dont exist
[09:30] <Junkee> chubs: i may end up installing 4.1 afterall, lol
[09:30] <Flannel> XDi: ah.  Yeah, go ahead and install 8.04 now.
[09:30] <XDi> haha
[09:30] <XDi> will do
[09:31] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: thats the point of the umask option, since permissions dont exist, you declare how linux should assume the permissions to bee
[09:31] <chubs> Junkee, it's nice :) Dolphin is one of the best filemanagers i've used, next to mc
[09:31] <sinan> zhaozhou: the file doesn't exist prior to running the command. I am checking out for the first time.
[09:31] <Junkee> crap its 3:30
[09:31] <Junkee> time for bed, nice chatting with you chubs
[09:31] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: i see .. how to solve that?
[09:31] <gnuskool> hello, fresh install of hardy on latitude d830, no wifi with 1395 wlan mini card, "wl" is listed in 'restricted drivers, but is not in use, how do i put it in use??
[09:31] <XDi> I'm grabbing a dell ubuntu img from their site. anyone use a dell preinstall ubuntu install?
[09:31] <le_mischa> chubs: I would still prefer Konqueror
[09:31] <chubs> Junkee, night
[09:32] <chubs> le_mischa, really? I never liked konqueror
[09:32] <danbh_intrepid> sinan: use ext3, or maybe encourage svn not to set permissions
[09:32] <XDi> wondering if it has all kinds of dell logos everywhere
[09:32] <zhaozhou> sinan, the folder exists, right?
[09:32] <le_mischa> gnuskool: is jockey working?
[09:32] <gnuskool> le_mischa: what's jockey?
[09:33] <a_l_e> hello. when trying to play some music, i get the error: "Error: opening audio device: Device or resource busy"... does anybody know how to restart the "sound system"?
[09:33] <sinan> zhaozhou: the folder "jawaker" doesn't. The folder "work", from which i am writing the command does. The folder "jawaker" is created by SVN.
[09:33] <sinan> danbh_intrepid: i can't use ext3 since i am sharing the drive with windows.
[09:33] <le_mischa> chubs: When I have time, I'll take a look if I can replace Nautilus ;)
[09:33] <DistroJockey> gnuskool, tick the box in the Enabled column?
[09:33] <le_mischa> gnuskool: the ubuntu management system for restricted drivers
[09:33] <gnuskool> DistroJockey: is says its enabled, but not in use
[09:34] <a_l_e> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart didn't solve the problem
[09:34] <DistroJockey> gnuskool, ahh, k
[09:34] <sinan> danbh_intrepid, zhaozhou: one second please, i need to restart, sorry !
[09:34] <gnuskool> le_mischa: its enabled in there, but is not in use
[09:34] <AkshunBoi> All of a sudden my xubuntu hardy install is getting stuck right after the GRUB bootloader (message is "Starting Up...", it just hangs there indefinitely). I recently installed some updates using the automatic updater, none of them required a restart, system worked fine until the battery died, on restart it began hanging. Any ideas?
[09:34] <dust_t> hi i installed ubuntu 7.10 on acer desktop x1200. its not detecting my lan card. I did lspci and ethernet controller is shown as nvidia corporation unknown
[09:34] <zhaozhou> a_l_e, The soundservers in ubuntu sucks, i and many others hate them.
[09:35] <danbh_intrepid> AkshunBoi: are you sure it hangs indefinitely?
[09:35] <dust_t> what module do i need to load ? or what driver do i need to install ?
[09:35] <nbjayme> hello hischild, yes i have generated a private/public key and can connect successfully. but everytime i connect it's asking me for the remote linux box's password (not the ssh passphrase).
[09:35] <gnuskool> le_mischa: lspci didnt show the card though?
[09:35] <AkshunBoi> danbh_intrepid: at least an hour or so :P
[09:35] <le_mischa> AkshunBoi: tried reparing package-management (grub - recovery mode)
[09:35] <danbh_intrepid> AkshunBoi: literally?
[09:35] <dust_t> nbjayme, check the file permissions on the .ssh dir and the private key on local and remote machine
[09:35] <XDi> thanks for the info guys, night
[09:35] <zhaozhou> a_l_e, the problem with ubuntu is that it enables alot of sound servers by default, OSS, alsa and pulse audio are 3 of them. If an application is using OSS for example, then that is fine, until another application tries to use alsa
[09:36] <zhaozhou> a_l_e, that wont work
[09:36] <AkshunBoi> danbh_intrepid: I plugged it back in and started it up and left the room, when I came back it was still hanging there
[09:36] <a_l_e> zhaozhou: well, yes... i think i can join you in that ate them :-)
[09:36] <dust_t> anyone knowns how to enable nvidia on board ethernet in ubuntu 7.10
[09:36] <AkshunBoi> le_mischa: I tried hitting escape during grub and choosing the (recovery mode) option for the latest kernel (.21) and it hangs during startup, I can tell you what line it hangs at if you think it'll help.
[09:36] <danbh_intrepid> AkshunBoi: well, I had a computer that would hang for 10 minutes, literally, and consitently, but would start up eventually...   Upgrading to intrepid solved it
[09:37] <zhaozhou> a_l_e, there is thus three ways of solving this; the first is too shut down the applications using the existing soundserver
[09:37] <gnuskool> if the restricted driver manager shows 'lw' is enabled, but not in use, how do I GET MY WIRELESS TO WORK?
[09:37] <a_l_e> i guess that the blocking program is pidgin... but i can't restart it atm :-(
[09:37] <le_mischa> AkshunBoi: it wont help me ;)
[09:37] <danbh_intrepid> svn --help
[09:37] <gnuskool> ooops 4 caps :D
[09:37] <danbh_intrepid> wc
[09:37] <zhaozhou> a_l_e, the second is too get the new applications using the already existant soundserver
[09:37] <zhaozhou> a_l_e, and the third is to completly disable all the soundserver except alsa.
[09:37] <AkshunBoi> danbh_intrepid: this system has worked without an issue for the last several months, though, did that behavior develop all of a sudden for you?
[09:37] <le_mischa> gnuskool: did you try http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper ?
[09:37] <XDi> 任何人讲中文
[09:38] <zaggynl> !jp > XDi
[09:38] <gnuskool> le_mischa: no, but will try anything at this stage thx
[09:38] <danbh_intrepid> AkshunBoi: well, not really,  it was when I upgraded from gutsy to hardy
[09:38] <geodome> mmm
[09:38] <geodome> what is hardy?
[09:38] <zhaozhou> !hardy
 -----------> i can
[09:38] <a_l_e> ok. thanks! i guess i have to restart pidgin, then!
[09:40] <arschofsong> HEy , i can't use this chat tool .Dont know who is talking to WHO!
[09:40] <sacul_sleep> arschofsong: google translate can too :P
[09:40] <le_mischa> danbh_intrepid: upgrading to an alpha release shouldn't be the preferred approach of solving this
[09:41] <sinan> zhaozhou, danbh_intrepid: fixed the problem, added a uid attribute to fstab. Thanks for your efforts ! ;)
[09:41] <pan__> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[09:41] <danbh_intrepid> le_mischa: whats happening?
[09:42] <le_mischa> danbh_intrepid: nothing.I'm mixing up releases. sorry ;)
[09:42] <balrog> pan__: two different ways of doing the same thing.  aptitude in my experience has been faster and supposedly has "better" dependency checking.
[09:43] <pan__> so say i were to get wicd
[09:43] <pan__> sudo apt-get install wicd
[09:43] <sacul_sleep> pan__: is cleaner too.  (leaves less garbage lying around)
[09:43] <pan__> how would i do that with aptitude
[09:43] <pan__> sudo aptitude?
[09:43] <sacul_sleep> pan__: sudo aptitude install wicd
[09:43] <pan__> ah i c
[09:43] <pan__> sudo aptitude remove wicd
[09:43] <YAX> hello
[09:43] <pan__> to remove
[09:43] <pan__> k
[09:43] <AkshunBoi> Are there any other troubleshooting tools I should be looking to other than the "recovery mode"? I'm not very familiar with linux/ubuntu yet.
[09:43] <Intertri1ity> Which package do I get to be able to use svn? sudo apt-get install svn doesn't work
[09:43] <arooni> can i use vesa to do dual mon?  if so how ?
[09:44] <zhaozhou> arooni, You can, but you'll have to edit xorg.conf yourself
[09:44] <Sobaka> Hi people. Can somebody tell me in which directory gnome stores panel data? I want to copy this to the /etc/skel dir, so new users will get the icons I want them to have in their panel
[09:44] <comput3r> is there anything like this (http://www.design-simulation.com) for ubuntu?
[09:44] <sacul_sleep> Intertri1ity: sudo apt-get install subversion
[09:44] <zhaozhou> Sobaka, .config :-)
[09:44] <Intertri1ity> sacul_sleep: thanks so much :)
[09:44] <sacul_sleep> Intertri1ity: np
[09:44] <Sobaka> Thanks
[09:44] <le_mischa> brb
[09:44] <nbjayme> hello got it. wrong username in pub file. ;-)
[09:45] <balrog> comput3r: you mean CAD?  yes, although they are smaller...
[09:45] <chrisbrl88> dumb question, but I've never really needed it inside gnome before - how do I view what hardware is connected to my system?
[09:48] <zhaozhou> chrisbrl88, lspci
[09:48] <zhaozhou> chrisbrl88, or lshw
[09:49] <osfameron> chrisbrl88: or System - Preferences - Hardware Information
[09:49] <zhaozhou> osfameron, or that
[09:49] <comput3r> i guess, it simulates real time engineering physics
[09:49] <sacul_sleep> zhaozhou: lolz
[09:49] <zhaozhou> sacul_sleep, : D
[09:49] <arschofsong> Okay,i have a question:  when i set the [visual effect] to the [traditional] one.it seems that the logout couldn't work.Is there any software package i need to install to use the traditional effects or my video card doesn't support that effects. well ,my notebook is Thinkpad T43
[09:50] <zhaozhou> sacul_sleep, you're not asleep!
[09:50] <sacul_sleep> zhaozhou: i should be.. its almost 5am here
[09:50] <comput3r> is it qcad?
[09:51] <pvh_sa> heya.. when i run wireshark, it doesn't show any interfaces to capture - but when i run it as root it pops up a warning message (but allows me to capture stuff) - what should i be doing?
[09:51] <zhaozhou> arschofsong, Wait... is'nt there only none, normal or extra?
[09:51] <le_mischa> pvh_sa: you have to run wireshark as root.
[09:51] <zhaozhou> sacul_sleep, Ew. almost 11am here. :-)
[09:51] <arschofsong> the normal one
[09:51] <zhaozhou> pvh_sa, That's normal. You should be in the wireshark group
[09:52] <pvh_sa> le_mischa, is there no part of the system where i can give non-root users permissions to capture traffic?
[09:52] <zhaozhou> pvh_sa, You need raw access to the interfaces. :-)
[09:52] <balrog> comput3r: look for QCad in Synaptic
[09:52] <arschofsong> zhaozhou, i means normal effects
[09:52] <thefoolonthehill> day everyone
[09:52] <rajec> how to easily update program in ubuntu ? I heard that you can do this from add/remove
[09:53] <hischild> rajec, use the update manager. It will notify you of updates.
[09:53] <zhaozhou> arschofsong, normal effects is the same effects as extra, but minimized. "none" is the traditianal.
[09:53] <zhaozhou> arschofsong, traditional*
[09:53] <pvh_sa> zhaozhou, there's no wireshark group on my system
[09:53] <le_mischa> rajec: Konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[09:53] <zhaozhou> 7% left out of my battery now... i'll be off any second. :-D
[09:53] <zhaozhou> pvh_sa, Hmm, perhaps that was gentoo....
[09:53] <DosKey> For some reason i can't get video overlay without sacrificing  the composition module...
[09:53] <rajec> hischild: whaty you mean by update manager ? which of applicaiont is it ?
[09:53] <DosKey> Any idea?
[09:54] <thefoolonthehill> rajec: what ubuntu version are you using?
[09:54] <rajec> 8.04
[09:54] <arschofsong> zhaozhou , i typed wrong (because i m using a Japanese version).
[09:54] <hischild> rajec, it's under system -> administration -> update manager.
[09:55] <thefoolonthehill> rajec: easiest way would be, fire up the terminal and type "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:55] <thefoolonthehill> or do, what hischild said ^^
[09:55] <zhaozhou> thefoolonthehill, xD
[09:55] <rajec> hischild: Thats for ubuntu but I am looking for something to update application. I heard that linux can manage this
[09:55] <Ekuuleu1> ubuntu keeps hanging
[09:55] <Ekuuleu1> any ideas
[09:56] <hischild> !gq | Ekuuleu1
[09:56] <Ekuuleu1> and its not hot hardware, the hardware is fine
[09:56] <zhaozhou> Ekuuleu1, Colud try another distrobution
[09:56] <airtonix> rajec, more information please
[09:56] <hischild> rajec, hmm then you'll have to be more precise.
[09:56] <pvh_sa> wireshark uses raw sockets to listen to traffic, right? to get raw sockets you need to be root or "the process needs the CAP_NET_RAW capability"
[09:56] <airtonix> rajec, because you might not be aware of how apt-get and repositories work
[09:56] <thefoolonthehill> rajec: sudo apt-get upgrade works in every distro where apt-get is installed und configured properly. Or what do you mean?
[09:57] <rajec> I want to update pidgin
[09:57] <hischild> thefoolonthehill, he probably is talking about a third-party program.
[09:57] <rajec> whats best way to do that
[09:57] <zhaozhou> 5% batterypower... ouch.
[09:57] <airtonix> rajec, to something like the alpha version?
[09:57] <Taiga-SK> rajec, to a higher version or just fix bugs?
[09:57] <le_mischa> rajec: you want a newer version than the one to be found in repositories?
[09:57] <sacul_sleep> night ubuntu
[09:57] <zhaozhou> sacul_sleep, good night, sleep tight
[09:58] <rajec> Higher version I have 2.4.1 a and there is 2.5.1
[09:58] <le_mischa> rajec: getdeb.net.
[09:58] <DosKey> For some reason i can't get video overlay without sacrificing  the composition module... in xorg.conf
[09:58] <DosKey> Any ideas?
[09:58] <chrisbrl88> how can I figure out if ubuntu is recognizing my TV card?
[09:58] <arschofsong> how can i use MSN chat in ubuntu?
[09:58] <airtonix> <- defers to others, with the cavaet that you mention checkinstall and other similar processes
[09:58] <zhaozhou> arschofsong, pidgin
[09:58] <le_mischa> arschofsong: kopete, pidgin
[09:58] <AkshunBoi> Recently my xubuntu hardy is hanging, indefinitely, at "Starting Up..." during boot. I have tried using the 'recovery mode,' it hangs after 10s at a line about ACPI PCI Interrupt 11. System previously worked fine.
[09:59] <airtonix> arschofsong, for basic usage in terms of txt msging you can use pidgn
[09:59] <farhad_hf> how can i get the download links of this apt command : apt-get dist-upgrade -t experimental
[09:59] <Ekuuleu1> what channel would people suggest for my ubuntu hanging inside of a VMWare guest, particularly when a program does a beep
[09:59] <Taiga-SK> i like xchat for irc tho i also use pidgin for other protocols
[09:59] <rajec> le_mischa or pidgin.im
[09:59] <Cheeky> is eny installed through synaptic or through apt-get ?
[10:00] <hischild> Cheeky, synaptic is a front-end of apt-get.
[10:00] <le_mischa> is pidgin distributing .deb files?
[10:00] <airtonix> Cheeky, apt-get and synaptic are frontends to the same thing
[10:00] <mankal> Hi guys. I'm looking for an app and don't really know what to google for. I need something like a mindmap but not that hierarchical. With mindmap creators you have a fixed structure like parent-child. I only need something where I can have nodes with some text and edges between that nodes. Any recommendations?
[10:00] <Cheeky> ok thanks
[10:00] <le_mischa> mankal: graphiz
[10:00] <airtonix> mankal, i also wanted something like this ... closest i could find is in fact mindmap....vym
[10:00] <le_mischa> or tex with pstricks :D
[10:01] <Cheeky> airtonix: hey man i re-installed ubuntu again .. and .. i want to install the eny frivers again . throught cli .. can you tell me wat command i need to run if you dont mind ?
[10:01] <Guest28369> prob. offtopic but when i edit in firefox every word has a red underline, any ideas?
[10:01] <airtonix> Cheeky, you mean the "envy" package
[10:01] <Slart> Guest28369: you have spellchecking enabled but in some weird language perhaps?
[10:01] <Cheeky> airtonix: yeah man .. coz ..i wann solve the choppiness .. so iam trying a different way
[10:01] <mankal> le_mischa: I hoped for something more graphical...
[10:01] <rajec> le_mischa http://www.pidgin.im/download/
[10:02] <chrisbrl88> how can I check to see if the system is recognizing my TV card?
[10:02] <sfer3> Guest28369: Or there is no dictionary installed at all, that's what happened to mine when I upgraded
[10:02] <airtonix> Cheeky, jolly good for you...hehe. to install envy via cli ...let me check im sure the website describes how
[10:02] <le_mischa> rajec: you can install it by double-clicking the package or by typing sudo dpkg -i <packagename> in a terminal window
[10:02] <DistroJockey> !envy
[10:02] <howes> hello does anyone know how to recover a frozen tty ? I have tried killing the /sbin/mingetty process but with no luck its a bit of a pain as I have two frozen now, any ideas ?
[10:03] <Cheeky> airtonix: i dont want to do this process again .. man i really wuld like a hand
[10:03] <rajec> le_mischa but which one to download I am little confused. For example why there is extra package for fedore
[10:04] <Vialas> hello  everyone
[10:05] <le_mischa> rajec: as I told you: pidgin has no .deb packages
[10:05] <marlun> When sharing a folder with samba in nautilus does it create a config file somewhere I can look at?
[10:05] <arschofsong> In pidgin, if i need to readd friends?
[10:05] <Vialas> anyone know how to make a computer resolve to a host?
[10:05] <Vialas> ie i try o ping my computer name... and it wont resolve
[10:05] <locke> Vialas, make it a dns host
[10:05] <le_mischa> rajec:  http://www.getdeb.net/app/Pidgin <= this will work.
[10:06] <rajec> le_mischa: So I need to download source code and compile them or what?
[10:06] <le_mischa> rajec: if you want to
[10:06] <airtonix> rajec, for ultra bleeding edge versions you going to have to compile them, but if you want to install it in a way that allows for updating via apt-get you will need to investigate the use of checkinstall
[10:06] <thefoolonthehill> rajec: why don't u install and update pidgin via the repos?
[10:06] <airtonix> !checkinstall | rajec
[10:07] <le_mischa> If i were you i'd use the getdeb-version
[10:07] <exoa> I installed ubuntu and when I rebooted it booted back into vista.. i booted the live cd up and did the sudo grub, find ..., root (hd1,4), etc to get grub installed to mbr but it still booted into vista when i rebooted
[10:07] <exoa> any ideas?
[10:07] <le_mischa> exoa: there
[10:07] <rajec> thefoolonthehill: I want to update it I've already instaled it
[10:08] <le_mischa> i'd guess: there's no bootflag for the partition where your grub is installed
[10:08] <airtonix> rajec, when an update is available....your package manager will let you know
[10:08] <DistroJockey> exoa, looks like you installed grub to the second hard drive and you are probably booting off the 1st
[10:08] <le_mischa> airtonix: there is an update ;)
[10:08] <airtonix> rajec, you can of course try now with : sudo apt-get upgrade pidgn
[10:09] <exoa> DistroJockey: i just installed it where ubuntu installed it during the live cd
[10:09] <airtonix> rajec, sorry spelling correction is : sudo apt-get upgrade pidgin
[10:09] <rajec> airtonix: he do not because there is 2.5.1, but thats because there is no version for ubuntu I suppose
[10:09] <le_mischa> rajec: you could download the .deb - package of pidgin from http://www.getdeb.net/app/Pidgin and install it manually
[10:09] <Vialas> hello
[10:09] <DistroJockey> exoa, drives can change position sometimes
[10:10] <rajec> btw how does compatibily of software works between linux distribution. I thought that there is problem only with Gnome and KDE
[10:10] <Vialas> can someone help me resolve my computer addy??
[10:10] <airtonix> rajec, in that case if your not presented with updates there and you want even more up2datev versions the compile que calls you
[10:10] <exoa> DistroJockey: well how would i go about determining where i need to install grub at this time?
[10:10] <thefoolonthehill> currently i have pidgin 2.5.0 and 1 update available in the update manager
[10:10] <le_mischa> airtonix: why? ;)
[10:10] <thefoolonthehill> so there is the update for ubuntu, definitely
[10:11] <le_mischa> airtonix: pidgin 2.5.0 is in hardy backports.
[10:11] <airtonix> le_mischa, well because apt-get doesnt give him the new version he desires....neither does getdeb nor does any other source other than compiling it from the pidgin svn
[10:11] <DistroJockey> exoa, from that livecd, you could do the following to see which drive to install it to :   sudo fdisk -l
[10:11] <vev> #ubuntu.fr
[10:12] <le_mischa> airtonix: he wants v2.5.1 and that version is to be found here http://www.getdeb.net/release/3140
[10:12] <DistroJockey> exoa, if it says  sda  then that would be  hd0
[10:12] <airtonix> le_mischa, then can you help rajec through that please?
[10:12] <Cheeky> airtonix: hey man .. did you forget about me?
[10:12] <DistroJockey> exoa, in most cases
[10:12] <airtonix> Cheeky, woops
[10:12] <Cheeky> airtonix: lol  you were busy ..
[10:13] <rajec> thefoolonthehill: http://www.picamatic.com/view/1026489_Screenshot/
[10:13] <exoa> this is the first actual linux partition: /dev/sdb5               1        5362    43070202   83  Linux
[10:13] <thefoolonthehill> type "sudo apt-get update"
[10:13] <exoa> would that be hd1,5?
[10:13] <le_mischa> thefoolonthehill: your version is in the backports
[10:13] <airtonix> Cheeky, i havent used envy since when i was in feisty with my ati cards...seems i was fortunate enough not to require anything other than the drivers presented to me via the restricted-driver-manager
[10:14] <weyer> hi, i need to run add variables to environment, and the provide script uses "setenv"
[10:14] <weyer> how can i convert this to ubuntu ?
[10:14] <airtonix> Cheeky, i was under the impression envy was for ati....although looking now im not sure why i had that impression
[10:14] <thefoolonthehill> le_mischa: means?
[10:14] <Vialas> locke: how do i make a dns host?
[10:14] <Vialas> locke: ps sorry for late reply, had someone at the door :(
[10:15] <locke> Vialas, with a dns server
[10:15] <locke> duh heh
[10:15] <le_mischa> thefoolonthehill: means that rajec will need to add/uncomment them to/from his sources.list
[10:15] <Cheeky> airtonix: yeah its for nvidia as well
[10:15] <locke> Vialas, you ever listen to ugly kid joe?
[10:15] <DistroJockey> exoa, you would need to put grub in the MBR of the drive that Vista is booting from, or change the drive priority in the BIOS to boot from the sdb drive
[10:15] <locke> back in the eraly 90s
[10:15] <jan500> hi... can i exclude a dir when i use cp? i want copy /media/sda1/* to /media/sdb1/ but i dont want to copy /media/sda1/users
[10:15] <thefoolonthehill> le_mischa: that does make sense, indeed, XD
[10:15] <locke> 'i'm the godd*mn devil!' this job pleases me!
[10:15] <DistroJockey> exoa, put grub in the mbr of the vista drive may break vista though
[10:15] <bazhang> locke, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:15] <DistroJockey> exoa, putting^
[10:16] <airtonix> weyer, i think in the bash shell to set a global variable its : EXPORT variableName="valueString"
[10:16] <chrisbrl88> really - how can I tell if the system sees my TV card?
[10:16] <locke> bazhang, i'm not allowed in #ubuntu-offtopic for anohter 2 days i think
[10:16] <locke> oh wait
[10:16] <locke> i think i might be allowed now
[10:16] <bazhang> locke, this is not the chat channel
[10:16] <Vialas> locke: ugly kid joe??
[10:16] <bname> hi
[10:16] <locke> nope still banne
[10:16] <exoa> DistroJockey: can i pm you my partition table?
[10:16] <bazhang> Vialas, please chat elsewhere
[10:16] <locke> Vialas, one of my favoite bands from the early 90s
[10:16] <airtonix> Cheeky, from what i can tell...envy-gtk is in the repos so try installing that first
[10:16] <DistroJockey> exoa, sure
[10:16] <locke> alternative/almost metal type stufff
[10:16] <airtonix> !envy-gtk | Cheeky
[10:17] <Popz> hello
[10:17] <airtonix> !envy | Cheeky
[10:17] <ganesh> mouse left click is not working..i tried with different mouse..same problem
[10:17] <sfer3> !offtopic > locke
[10:17] <locke> sfer3, i'm not talking about it
[10:17] <Popz> anyone got any ideas why "top" is only showing processes from the current user, not all users?
[10:17] <airtonix> Cheeky, now i do remember it being just something that would determine your video card correctly and then based on that it would retreive the correct video driver...
[10:18] <airtonix> Popz, are you running it like thus : sudo top
[10:18] <Cheeky> sudo apt-get install envy-gtk....?
[10:18] <bname> any best algorithms yahoo messenger encryption?
[10:18] <airtonix> Popz, you might also like to have a look at htop
[10:18] <Popz> airtonix: no, it shouldnt need to run as root surely?
[10:18] <ganesh> can any one help me with mouse problem?hao to reset mouse properties?
[10:18] <Popz> on my other box it works fine
[10:18] <bname> any best algorithms yahoo messenger encryption?
[10:18] <Popz> just installed a new dedicated server, and its doing this
[10:18] <airtonix> Cheeky, could be if your not sure what a packages real name is you can use apt-cache search envy
[10:18] <bname> any best algorithms yahoo messenger encryption?
[10:19] <Vialas> bazhang: excuse me, i was not chatting, i was asked a q i answerd
[10:19] <Popz> 'w' also shows no users
[10:19] <bname> any best algorithms yahoo messenger encryption?
[10:19] <airtonix> Popz, so you have another ubuntu desktop and running top without sudo allows you to see process from all users?
[10:19] <Popz> yea
[10:19] <bazhang> Vialas, there is a channel for that: #ubuntu-offtopic , does not matter if others are.
[10:19] <Popz> ubuntu server though
[10:20] <airtonix> bname, not sure if it works with yahoo messengar but there is a few for pidgn like off therecord
[10:20] <airtonix> bname, not sure if it works with yahoo messengar but there is a few for pidgn like offtherecord(otr)
[10:20] <airtonix> woops
[10:20] <Popz> i've had a look at the sudoers setup and it's identical
[10:20] <airtonix> Popz, sorry i have no idea, might a feature of the server version
[10:21] <Popz> odd :/
[10:21] <MrD1> Hi to al
[10:21] <Popz> they're both running ubuntu server 8.04 x64
[10:21] <Popz> from the same installer
[10:21] <airtonix> Popz, in a server enviroment this is good behaviour though
[10:21] <Taiga-SK> what does that server mean in the version name?
[10:21] <airtonix> Popz, ahh right i see now
[10:21] <Dranik> hi all
[10:22] <Popz> its not good when you're moving server and things dont act the same :p
[10:22] <vev> hi, i cant use my usb headset with teamspeak, anyone knows how to do?
[10:22] <Dranik> what can I use to draw a GUI prototype for a desktop application?
[10:22] <rQVUws> popz fuck u kotta
[10:22] <Vialas> any ops in here?
[10:22] <rQVUws> popz fuck u kotta
[10:22] <Ziroday> Taiga-SK: it means that is a version of ubuntu designed for servers, it contains different packages and different settings as well as no gui
[10:22] <Dranik> I need something like Visio
[10:22] <rQVUws> popz fuck u kotta
[10:22] <Popz> Oo
[10:22] <howes> Dia
[10:22] <rQVUws> popz fuck u kotta
[10:22] <Ziroday> rQVUws: please stop now
[10:22] <rQVUws> popz fuck u kotta
[10:22] <airtonix> Taiga-SK, one thing i know that is different....the 32bitkernel supports upto 36gb of ram ...or at least more than 4gb
[10:22] <Popz> what did i do :(
 you know, i want secure my yahoo messenger with encryption
[10:22] <Cheeky> airtonix: hey i did this command "sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk  and it worked but it didnt ask me to do restart or anything an di ran glxgears .. and it worked ..
[10:22] <Cheeky> "
[10:22] <Dranik> howes: does it allow drawing GUI prototypes?
[10:22] <rQVUws> hahahaha pop fuck u
[10:22] <stdin> !ops | rQVUws
[10:22] <favro> Popz: there is #ubuntu-server too
[10:22] <Popz> <3 trolls
[10:22] <tomaw> err
[10:23] <Popz> oh? thanks
[10:23]  * Popz joins
[10:23] <Myrtti> thanks tomaw :->
[10:23] <howes> not sure only ever used it for UML, but I figure you can get a set of symbols for gui stuff
[10:23] <SjgBxeubzHBn> pop fuck up
[10:23] <tomaw> Myrtti: it would've worked better if I muted the right person ;)
[10:23] <Myrtti> :->
[10:23] <tomaw> stdin: sorry :)
[10:24] <howes> could you use Gambas and screenshots
[10:24] <airtonix> bname, i do remember seeing something quite a while ago about offtherecord being available for yahoo
[10:24] <stdin> tomaw: heh, don't worry about it :)
[10:24] <ubuntu__> hi
[10:24] <airtonix> bname, you could also make use of tor
[10:24] <ubuntu__> maayong hapon ninyong tanan
[10:24] <MrD1> ubottu, hello
[10:25] <Cheeky> airtonix: hey man .. how can i check if my rendering and all is working ?
[10:25] <MrD1> ubottu, are you intelligent
[10:25] <airtonix> Cheeky, try out some 3d apps
[10:25] <Guest48936> any 1 know socks search software for ubuntu
[10:26] <airtonix> Cheeky, or had you noted the fps from glxgears before you made any changes you could run it now and see if your getting more fps than before
[10:26] <Vialas> anyone know why i cant ping a computer on my own network? (no firewall is not on)
[10:26] <Cheeky> airtonix: i did.. glxgears ..
[10:26] <Vialas> (cant ping via computer name)
[10:26] <Popz> anyone know any good memory/cpu benchmark software for ubuntu?
 you know, yahoo messenger use a very simply an dangerous connection
[10:26] <airtonix> Vialas, your using avahi maybe?
[10:26] <MrD1> Ok not sure if this is really a ubunttu question or not, does any one know about the 4 way handshake methods?
[10:26] <airtonix> bname, its why i dont use it
 any body can see your data
yea
[10:27] <Cheeky> airtonix: no i didnt and .. when i did that command .. it didnt even ask me to restart i didnt even see a splash screen of nvidia ..
[10:27] <airtonix> bname, read up on TOR...and have a look into using offtherecord together your dataz will be virtually untraceable and unreadable to anyone expect your intended target
[10:27] <Cheeky> airtonix: when i tried to turn on effects in ubuntu .. they asked me to turn my restricted driver .. but i didnt do it .. coz i installed envy
[10:28] <Vialas> avahi??
[10:28] <Ziroday> Popz: phoronix test suite, or I know there is a package in the repos
[10:28] <airtonix> !avahi | Vialas
[10:28] <airtonix> Vialas, its bascially bonjour
[10:28] <Ziroday> Cheeky: you can enable effects manually by typing in a terminal compiz --replace
good
[10:28] <Ziroday> Cheeky: and another reason why you shouldn't use envy :)
[10:28] <Cheeky> Ziroday: i didnt have to do that earlier .. when i installed .. envy
[10:28] <DosKey> For some reason i can't get video overlay without sacrificing  the composition module... in xorg.conf
[10:28] <DosKey> Any ideas?
[10:29] <airtonix> Ziroday, envy is about dirvers yeah? so if he just ran the driver installer then surely to get the Xserver to use  it a restart of the Xserver is order
[10:29] <Popz> Ziroday: do you know if that is gui or command line based? (or both)
[10:29] <Cheeky> Ziroday: then wat the hell am i supposed todo ..coz .. this is my secodn install in a one day :-$
[10:29] <Ziroday> Popz: I believe phoronix test suite is command line, the one in the repos (name escapes me) is gui
[10:29] <Ziroday> Cheeky: run the command in the terminal compiz --replace
[10:29] <Taiga-SK> Cheeky, you're lucky you're not installing gentoo
[10:30] <Popz> ok thanks, i'll search around :)
[10:30] <airtonix> Cheeky, if you just ran the envy thingo....log out and back in again....force it with ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:30] <Taiga-SK> 2 gentoo installs a day - nightmare
[10:30] <Ziroday> airtonix: yes however the effects dialoge in appearance iirc checks to see if the drivers are installed. Since envy installs them manually they appear uninstalled
[10:30] <vev> hi, how to use usb headset/microphone with teamspeak?
[10:30] <Cheeky> airtonix: yeah i did .. do that should i try to .. umm dosomething with xorg file.. toset to the envy driver?
[10:31] <le_mischa> afaik you have to reboot when envy has finished successfully
[10:31] <DosKey> For some reason i can't get video overlay without sacrificing  the composition module... in xorg.conf
[10:31] <jigp> i tried to install eye candy dock.now its missed up..i cannot see icons in the desktop and also the menu like System,Menu etc...how to restore it?
[10:31] <DosKey> please help!!!
[10:31] <le_mischa> Cheeky: what is xorg.conf saying?
[10:32] <yanainux> #ubuntu-fr
[10:32] <Guest48936> help me
[10:32] <Cheeky> le_mischa: i dont know i dont knwo where it is .. but i heard or read in some forums that where your video setting are present ?
[10:32] <airtonix> Cheeky, touching your xorg without sufficent research can be dangerous...to tell the truth..without standardised hardware xorg.conf will be your biggest bane...but its also a blessing that we can even edit stuff to that degree...
[10:32] <Popz> hmm, apt-get has frozen on 'Connecting to security.ubuntu.com' @.@
[10:32] <le_mischa> Cheeky: yes.
[10:32] <Ziroday> Popz: I believe the gui system is called hardinfo
[10:32] <le_mischa> Cheeky: /etc/x11/xorg.conf afair
[10:32] <Popz> ok
[10:32] <Popz> i'm looking for web based/cli as its on a server
[10:33] <rajec> Where are installed programs installed from repository
[10:33] <airtonix> Cheeky, in any case...this is the website of the envy author : http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?cat=12
[10:33] <Ziroday> Popz: then phoronix test suite is for you
[10:33] <Ziroday> rajec: what program?
[10:33] <Taiga-SK> rajec, that's quite a difficult question
[10:33] <Cheeky> le_mischa: wat do i do with it open it in gedit?
[10:34] <le_mischa> if you want to.
[10:34] <le_mischa> you could open it with less, nano, ...
[10:34] <airtonix> Popz, some reason i believe epsxe did a benchmark test on my setup when i first ran it....at least i think it did
[10:34] <le_mischa> you're running nvidia?
[10:34] <rajec> Ziroday: in general for example in windows you have program files as default
[10:34] <airtonix> Popz, i found a benchmark.txt in my home folder with some awesome stats
[10:34] <rajec> Taiga-sk are you from Slovakia ?
[10:35] <Cheeky> le_mischa: yeah iam
[10:35] <le_mischa> look for driver in xorg.conf
[10:35] <Ziroday> rajec: program launchers or the actual places where the program files are installed or the source code?
[10:35] <Taiga-SK> rajec, jasne
[10:35] <airtonix> rajec, to locate the files of a program...(it wont be neat) try : locate filenameOrFolder
[10:35] <Popz> airtonix: like what? :o
[10:36] <thefoolonthehill> rajec: you can look that up in synaptic
[10:36] <airtonix> Popz, see if its still in my trash and i will pastebin
[10:36] <rajec> Taiga-sk: ok ahoj :D proste nainstalujem program a chcem vediet kde je.
[10:36] <Popz> heh ok
[10:36] <le_mischa> if it says "nvidia" envy has edited your xorg.conf successfully and you'll be running the restricted driver as soon as you restart your x-session
[10:37] <Taiga-SK> rajec, no proste sa ti nainstaluje tam kde chce. najlepsie bude zadat prikaz typu: whereis mplayer. nazov programu zmen :D
[10:37] <Cheeky> le_mischa: can i pm you i missed your postes
[10:37] <le_mischa> Cheeky: if you want to
[10:37] <airtonix> Popz, mmm doesnt seem to be there...but i was looking at things like disk access speeds memory speeds...all sorts of tests
[10:37] <rajec> Taiga-sk: To je celkom dobry bordel nie ?
[10:38] <amorphous_> hiya all, i have a problem :(
[10:38] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask