[19:48] <auronandace> rndbit: is mesa installed?
[19:48] <rndbit> sure is
[19:48] <jrib> leptone: strange.  Is there anything peculiar about these directories?  Are they maybe symlinks?  What's ls -ld mysite/mysite return?
[19:48] <rndbit> as far as i gathered its wine problem, but in #winehq everyone is asleep
[19:48] <rndbit> /home/rndbit/wine-git/conftest.c:171: undefined reference to `glAccum'
[19:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> windows version of unetbootin can burn an iso to a hard-drive partition, linux's does not. is there a way you can figure this in linux?
[19:50] <leptone> jrib, drwxrwxr-x 2 casey casey 4096 Mar  6 11:05 .
[19:50] <auronandace> rndbit: wine-git? so you are not using the wine from the repos?
[19:50] <fisch246> anyone know how to manually uninstall a program? I installed spotweb and it got corrupted in the install. so now any sort of uninstall won't work unless i manually just start deleting packages. would removing the bin be enough for ubuntu not to notice it? once i get ubuntu to not notice it, i can move onto removing the install folder.
[19:50] <rndbit> im compiling my own
[19:50] <leptone> jrib, symlinks?
[19:50] <rndbit> want to apply some patches
[19:50] <d3c0> django and apache2?
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> fisch246: how do you mean not notice it
[19:51] <fisch246> ntzrmtthihu777: it tries to update and such, which creates a broken package system
[19:52] <jrib> leptone: never mind, your ls output indicates it's not a symlink.  Have you tried renaming it?  Could be some sort of weird bug because the parent directory has the same name
[19:52] <auronandace> fisch246: manually deleting things will very likely confuse dpkg and mess up your system
[19:52] <ioria> fisch246: if you download and compile a package you can use make unistall, and in the README or INSTALL you should find info
[19:52] <Tracker> need help switching to apache2-mpm-worker and php5-fpm .. currently on mpm-prefork and php and everything works.. but want to upgrade to mpm-worker and php5-fpm so installed package mpm-worker and it autoremoves php5apachemodule and then when trying to configure php5-fpm with mod_fastcgi or fcgid php is still browser download or plain text... not executed.. with mpm-worker .. whats wrong..ö
[19:52] <Tracker> anyone? no errors in logs.
[19:52] <guide_X> so does anyone know how to troubleshoot the mouse scrollwheel? I can't get it to work at all.. I have a normal laser mouse with two buttons
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> apt-get remove -f package
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> should force the removal
[19:52] <jrib> guide_X: see if anything is registered when you scroll in an "xev" window
[19:53] <guide_X> hmm ok
[19:53] <timindaburgh> Still trying to install ImageCLASS MF4450 drivers on my U12.10 to print on a LAN-connected ImageCLASS MF4880dw. When I try to install the 32-bit driver, I get the error: "Unable to open PPD file - Missing asterisk in column 1 on line 1... etc." Can anyone offer suggestions?
[19:53] <guide_X> no nothing
[19:54] <jxshxx> Could have sworn setting up dual boot w/ xp used to be easier.  Did the steps change from Live CD?
[19:54] <jrib> guide_X: what ubuntu version? What mouse?
[19:55] <fisch246> (solved) the command apt-get remove -f, did what i wanted
[19:55] <guide_X> ubuntu 12.10, logitech rx1500
[19:55] <fisch246> Thanks!
[19:55] <fisch246> ntzrmtthihu777: cheers
[19:56] <leptone> jrib, i believe thats how it works. i think it has something to do with the way i migrated it to eclipse bc i just create a new project with in eclipse an i am able to view the contents of test/test id really like it if i didnt have to start the django tutorial over after recreating the project within eclipse
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> I guess that did it
[19:56] <jrib> leptone: I don't know anything about eclipse so don't really have anything else to suggest unfortunately
[19:56] <huge> zz
[19:57] <leptone> jrib, np thanks for help.
[19:57] <jrib> guide_X: have you ruled out a hardware problem?
[19:57] <guide_X> well the mouse works fine in windows
[19:58] <guide_X> scrollwheel works and such
[19:58] <jrib> guide_X: you can try playing with xinput (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input) but I don't know exactly what you need to do
[19:58] <guide_X> ok cool
[19:59] <guide_X> oh i've also tried other mice, forgot to mention
[19:59] <guide_X> I tried another simple  microsoft mouse with laser and scrollwheel as well
[19:59] <jrib> guide_X: and the other mouse worked ok?
[20:00] <guide_X> it works fine, except for the scroll wheel of course
[20:00] <jrib> guide_X: hmm.
[20:00] <guide_X> it doesn't work just like the other mouse,
[20:00] <guide_X> but works in windows as well
[20:01] <auronandace> guide_X: do you have a custom xorg.conf?
[20:02] <guide_X> hmm not that I know of
[20:03] <guide_X> no one else uses the linux install except for me, but I didn't edit the xorg.conf
[20:03] <Mishke> which last ubuntu version with gnome?
[20:03] <n-iCe> 12.10
[20:03] <auronandace> guide_X: by default there is no xorg.conf but some graphics drivers do generate one
[20:03] <guide_X> Mishke: you can still use gnome shell in 12.10
[20:04] <Mishke> guide_X: i want use gnome 2
[20:04] <auronandace> Mishke: gnome2 is dead, move on
[20:04] <guide_X> I have a 11.04 with gnome 2 sitting around
[20:04] <Mishke> auronandace: gnome3 is dead too, but many users use this :)
[20:04] <auronandace> Mishke: no, gnome3 is actively developed
[20:05] <guide_X> bleh gnome3, bleh gnome shell ... gnome 2 :>
[20:05] <auronandace> guide_X: 11.04 is no longer supported
[20:05] <guide_X> I agree with mishke on this one
[20:05] <Mishke> auronandace: i dont like gnome3, he dead!
[20:05] <guide_X> yeah... it's the only one I know of is the only reason I mention it
[20:05] <auronandace> Mishke: then use something else
[20:05] <Mishke> its can be on develop, but its dead
[20:05] <Mishke> auronandace: gnome2!
[20:05] <Mishke> gnome2 is alive!
[20:06] <subcool> what folder do i go in on a liveusb to find my user/home directory?
[20:06] <auronandace> Mishke: stop being silly, there are others to choose from: kde, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[20:06] <guide_X> Mishke: according to this article, you can use gnome2 with 12.10 http://dijks.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/install-gnome-2-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[20:06] <guide_X> but I haven't tried it :>
[20:06] <zyngawow> does something connected to the internet always respond to pings?
[20:06] <Mishke> guide_X: now u using gnome2?
[20:06] <guide_X> on 11.04
[20:06] <auronandace> guide_X: that is a very bad idea
[20:07] <guide_X> I'm sure it is :>
[20:07] <guide_X> I have an 11.04 and a 12.10, on 12.10 I use unity and xfce, but on 11.04, I use gnome2
[20:07] <guide_X> the 11.04 I can't get rid of or replace
[20:07] <guide_X> it's just stuck the way it is forever
[20:08] <styler2go> Hello :)
[20:08] <styler2go> Can someone explain me what the yellow indicator mean? http://styler2go.de/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/fw_conntrack-day.png
[20:08] <styler2go> what does "time_wait" exactly tell me?
[20:09] <guide_X> mishke wants to use gnome2 for the same reason why people hate windows8, because it's what they're used to I think..
[20:09] <guide_X> plus the gnome shell has some kind of weird flickering problem , at least for me
[20:09] <auronandace> guide_X: that doesn't change the fact that it is no longer supported here
[20:10] <guide_X> that's true
[20:10] <robert_me-5> Hello, annyone know how to configure Pidgin for facebook chat
[20:10] <Mishke> guide_X can i send PM you?
[20:11] <guide_X> hmm mishke my pm is currently broken
[20:11] <unborn> robert_me-5, me.. i use to have it.. once i had fb :)
[20:11] <guide_X> but I will join you in a vacant channel
[20:12] <bean__> styler2go: do you mean the "NATed" bit?
[20:12] <unborn> robert_me-5, its easy.. i have no facebook (fb) any more.. coz it is useless for me..
[20:12] <styler2go> i dont know what the "time_wait" mean...
[20:13] <robert_me-5> @unborn: Shut it
[20:13] <unborn> 20.12 styler2go
[20:13] <xangua> robert_me-5: add new account, facebook, enter your facebook username and password, done
[20:13] <styler2go> ?
[20:13] <unborn> robert_me-5, 1st of all you need to know your nickname* on facebook.. like facebook.com/yournickname
[20:14] <unborn> robert_me-5, once you have that you will use that as your username for login and your usual password.. as base or how it use to call type in /Home and press add.. and you done :)
[20:14] <bean__> styler2go: time_wait is orange, fwiw.
[20:14] <styler2go> yes but what does that mean...
[20:15] <bean__> styler2go: time wait means that it's waiting to close the connection
[20:15] <giiker> styler2go: if I not mistaken, it's just TCP connections
[20:15] <unborn> styler2go, that should be tpc connections..
[20:15] <bean__> yep.
[20:15] <styler2go> so everything is ok if this is high?
[20:15] <giiker> styler2go: if you have NFS somewhere it might be related to RPC TCP connections
[20:16] <bean__> as long as your firewall can handle that many connections, sure, that's fine
[20:16] <styler2go> ok cool thank you :)
[20:16] <styler2go> so much traffic today :D
[20:16] <robert_me-5> @unborn: well I think I have done what you are saying but it doesn't seem to be working hmmmm
[20:17] <unborn> styler2go, if that is your own server you may look at the logs.. what(who) is causing that tragic and may adjust your fw ;)
[20:17] <siert> this landscape thing; is there no such thing as manage <x> systems for free?
[20:17] <styler2go> Can you guys explain some more things? unborn: no, its ok that there are so many poeple
[20:18] <unborn> robert_me-5, this would be better perhaps.. please go here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/12527/easily-add-facebook-chat-to-pidgin/
[20:18] <unborn> i am using bittlebee heh sorry :)
[20:18] <bobka> Hi, how to mount usb thumbdrive to /media from installation CLI?
[20:19] <robert_me-5> @unborn: ok I'll check out your link thanks
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: sudo mount /dev/drive# /media/target
[20:21] <kurteknikk> Hi, simple question: how do i file a bug in ubuntu on Launchpad ?
[20:22] <kurteknikk> I click on "report a bug" and i end up in a 'how to page'
[20:22] <unborn> robert_me-5, they changed domain.. heh sorry about small mistake but this should work for you.. I am sorry but I dont have fb account anymore so I could not check it for ya
[20:22] <Injigo_> hello
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: what is the bug
[20:22] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, its a glitch :)
[20:22] <Injigo_> anyone here know about recovering partitions?
[20:22] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, system error or anomaly
[20:22] <kurteknikk> ntzrmtthihu777: mysql 5.5.30 memory leak
[20:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: do you think I am stupid? I said the bug, not a bug
[20:23] <Guest55550> I am having an issue installing Ubuntu, anyone want to let me know what I am doing wrong?
[20:23] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, what makes you think like that?
[20:24] <unborn> aha i see :)
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: quite frankly your condecinding tone
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest55550: how are you trying to do it
[20:24] <bobka> @kurteknikk - thks, how do i find drive# and target is undefined?
[20:24] <Guest55550> I don't have a cd drive, so I put it on my external hd and trying to boot up through that
[20:24] <Guest55550> I ran the installer, and have the file unpackaged on there.
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> what do you mean put it on? just copied the iso?
[20:25] <jCuber> Guest55550: USB devices are reset during the installation, aren't they?
[20:25] <TraN> so, again about this dual booting win8 and ubuntu; as I read it, the problem is if you have Secure Boot enabled, otherwise its supposed to work as it normally would, right?
[20:25] <Guest55550> No, I used the universal USB installer
[20:25] <kurteknikk> @bobka - i didn't reply to anything you said... not sure what the thks is for...
[20:25] <Guest55550> I am using win7
[20:25]  * _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D
[20:25] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, i see.. well i can always go to debs channel.. i was just answering your question.. how ever you did ask what is bug.. that was my answer..
[20:25] <jCuber> Guest55550: So what exactly happens wrong?
[20:26] <maveas> Cinnamon on the Desktop, any takers?
[20:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> unborn: scroll up. I did not say is bug, I said is the bug
[20:26] <kurteknikk> @unborn / @ntzrmtthihu777... guys pls i'm answering a question
[20:26] <Guest55550> It will either say I don't have a valid device to boot through or just freeze
[20:26] <Injigo_> maveas: what do you mean?
[20:26]  * unborn guessing he kick me :D
[20:26] <unborn> kurteknikk, sure
[20:27] <Guest55550> When I go to the bios to tell it to load from my Toshiba HD it will show something CD and Removable Device as my two options.
[20:27] <unborn> ntzrmtthihu777, i know.. my apology
[20:27] <jCuber> Guest55550: Have you changed the boot order from your BIOS?
[20:27] <maveas> Injigo_: Anybody using it today? I might give it a try and I just wanted to hear other opinions first.
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest55550: use unetbootin to set up the ubuntu on a flash stick, then install from that onto the external hdd
[20:27] <Dartellum> I did use Cinnamon until recently
[20:27] <Guest55550> Every time I boot it will ask ubuntu or windows. I have not done that, what order do I need to have?
[20:27] <jCuber> Guest55550: Removable device = USB drive
[20:27] <Injigo_> maveas: oh i gotcha, yeah i use it and it's quite nice, it's also maturing pretty nicely
[20:27] <maveas> Dartellum: Then you switched to??
[20:27] <Dartellum> something happened during an update and all the bars went whacky
[20:27] <Dartellum> went back to Unity
[20:28] <enroxorz-work> is there a way to replace rhythmbox with banshee under the sound menu?
[20:28] <maveas> Ok
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest55550: and when you install grub to a device it autodetects windows and other linux distros
[20:28] <kurteknikk> my question is lost...
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: yeah, remove rhythmbox and install banshee
[20:28] <Dartellum> I have not tried reinstalling since updating to 12.04.2
[20:28] <subcool> what folder do i go in on a liveusb to find my user/home directory?
[20:28] <Guest55550> Ntzrmtthiu777: ? I am new to this, not quite sure what you mean.
[20:28] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777 - thks, how do i find drive# and target is undefined?
[20:28] <enroxorz-work> thanks
[20:28] <Dartellum> I think 12.04.1 messed it up
[20:29] <matelko> Hi
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> you were supposed to insert your own valuse there
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: are you new to linux?
[20:29] <bobka> kurteknikk: oops! welcome just the same. : )
[20:30] <maveas> Thanks Dartellum  :)
[20:30] <kurteknikk> @bobka dw :)
[20:30] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  sorry for bugging, but now rhythmbox is gone under the sound menu but banshee has not replaced it. am i missing something? i went into Details and changed the default app...
[20:31] <bobka> not a beginner, but when an install fails.
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> wait
[20:31] <xangua> enroxorz-work: i believe you need to enable banshee sound menu on it's preferences
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: not a problem, I did this once before.
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> nevermind ntzrmtthihu777
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> i figured out what i did wrong
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: got it working?
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> yeah, had to open up banshee...im an idiot
[20:31] <enroxorz-work> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[20:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: your're not an idiot, you got off the windows hell hole so that is a smart move in my book
[20:32] <unborn> agree ^^
[20:32] <matelko> Hi. I am new to Ubuntu. I changed and formated my partitions after installing 12.1. Only system partition stays the same. Now I can not write files on my empty partitions. What can be wrong? Thank you.
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: the other partitions are likely owned by root
[20:34] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 when you have some time, let me know
[20:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: run gksudo nautilus and see if you can create files in there that way
[20:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: what is the issue?
[20:34] <matelko> ok, wait a sec please
[20:35] <unborn> matelko zdravim ta
[20:35] <unborn> :)
[20:35] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 as i said, i want to figure out how can i report a bug in ubuntu (bug found is for mysql 5.5.29 memory leak) but when i press report a bug, i end up in a "how to report a bug" page
[20:35]  * unborn speaks native language of your matelko :)
[20:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: not to be an ass, but that does not tell you how? Because other than that, I don't know. I just asked what was the bug so I can maybe tell you how to fix it, but mysql is beyond me
[20:36] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777- : yes, with gksudo I can write the files on partitions. How to fix it to be like that after system boot? thank you.
[20:36] <nfd> Hey folks, I've got a quick question.
[20:37] <nfd> I'm about to set up a box with FDE (probably with this method: https://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/
[20:37] <nfd> ).
[20:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: what you trying to do exactly?
[20:37] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 i understand that you think you're being an ass, i don't feel good ending up in that page but not figuring out how i can report a bug ! It's like describing everything apart from my "type of bug"
[20:38] <nfd> Someone mentioned some sort of tech that stores the keys in the cpu so they are immediately wiped upon shutdown, what was it called?
[20:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: I'm sorry but I can not be much help in this. do you have a launchpad account?
[20:38] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  before I repartioned my disk, my old partitions was automatically mounted as rw after boot. But now not. I want them to mount rw automatically after boot.
[20:38] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ?
[20:38] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 yes, and i reported a bug for innobackupex before and it was very simple, but strangely enough for ubuntu looks like much more complicated
[20:39] <kurteknikk> @ntzrmtthihu777 yes, that's the page i'm ending up in
[20:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: sudo chown $USER:$USER name-of-drive
[20:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: I did not send you that, and its easier to just type ntz then tab
[20:40] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, what exactly was your question then? That has the steps to report a bug?
[20:40] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  do I need put that command after start every time 12.1 boots or just run it only once?
[20:40] <kurteknikk> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry my bad, btw i didn't know that trick, thanks :)
[20:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: np, I know my name is a pain to type
[20:41] <yusuf> hey
[20:41] <mcgraw1710> Okay, I am back. I was Guest555 something. I logged out so I could tell you exactly what I see
[20:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: that will change the ownershipt to you permanently, then you can set up automount by editing your fstab
[20:41] <kurteknikk> tgm4883: my question is how do i report a "memory leak type of bug", because they describe how to report a application crash, system crash etc... but can't find like a "simple way to report a bug" maybe there's not really one... maybe i do have to have the whole procedure to report a bug
[20:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: what was your problem, again
[20:42] <nfd> Also, if anyone knows how to set said software up, said knowledge would be appreciated.
[20:42] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, generally it's "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[20:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: I can guide you through that
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Humor me: If I were to install OpenIndiana (a FOSS clone of Solaris) alongside Ubuntu, which should I install first?
[20:43] <kurteknikk> ntzrmtthihu777: to be honest, since you were the only one replying, i just paste it and continue typing...
[20:43] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  ahh, right. Now I see. The ownership was the problem. Thank you for the help :-)
[20:43] <mcgraw1710> So when I boot up the PC I see 3 options, ATAPI CD-ROM, Removable Device, and my Computer Hard Drive. When I click on ubuntu to upload I get Try HD0, 0 : NTFS5 : No wubildr
[20:43] <puraki> pause
[20:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: you used wubi to install it?
[20:43] <mcgraw1710> Yeah
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> mcgraw1710: Did you install Ubuntu using Wubi?
[20:43] <nfd> Fun.
[20:44] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: openindiana overwrites the bootloader without warning, placing it's own grub there
[20:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: do you have available a usb stick
[20:44] <mcgraw1710> But I don't have a CD Drive on the netbook to burn the iso to, so I used the tool to extract it and use my external hd. I can look.
[20:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> kurteknikk: I just like helping ^^
[20:44] <mcgraw1710> will that work rather than my external hd?
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> auronandace: Right. (It still uses GRUB legacy.) So it's better to do OpenIndiana first and then Ubuntu?
[20:44] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> auronandace: Thanks
[20:45] <tgm4883> kurteknikk, I don't think there are special steps for memory leaks. It all ends up on LP, and you can always attach extra info if needed
[20:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: Yes, using the usb stick would be the easiest way to do it
[20:45] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: sorry i got disconnected
[20:45] <mcgraw1710> okay. Do I just extract ubuntu to that like I did with my hard drive?
[20:45] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, generally it's "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[20:46] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, I don't think there are special steps for memory leaks. It all ends up on LP, and you can always attach extra info if needed
[20:46] <mcgraw1710> and what order do I need to put in the bios for boot?
[20:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: no, you need to go here http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and download the windows version
[20:46] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: yeah my only problem is where can i go to "add a new bug". If you can provide a leak it would be amazing
[20:46] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: i've been going through launchpad/ubuntu but couldn't find the stupid page
[20:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcgraw1710: using this tool you will "burn" the iso to the usb stick so you can boot from it and install ubuntu
[20:47] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, for mysql?
[20:47] <mcgraw1710> okay. I will try that. I will do that and then come back in here and let you know if it worked. Thanks Ntzrmtthihu777
[20:47] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: yes, for the mysql package in ubuntu..
[20:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> mcb_:
[20:48] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, Did you run 'ubuntu-bug mysql'? because that should open to the page you need
[20:48] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: you could also check to see if the upstream mysql has the same bug
[20:48] <asses> hello
[20:49] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: also just so you know many distros will begin transitioning to mariadb as a replacement for mysql
[20:49] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, but to do it manually, you could go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql/+filebug
[20:49] <bobka> I'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"? If yes, how? mou
[20:50] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: damn i'm so fkn stupid... first of all i saw the ubuntu-bug command but i thought i shouldn't use that for some reason
[20:50] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: second of all, how did you manage to get that link ??? i searched everywhere !
[20:50] <asses> how i can send a file
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> asses: send a file where
[20:51] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  truth be told ive been a linux user for ages, just switched over from fedora on this laptop.  Also, honestly, I don't see all the hubbubb about unity. its a decent desktop UI.
[20:51] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, I figured out the link after I ran "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: gotta hate that
[20:51] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: i'm not sure what you mean by the 'upstream mysql'... i'm feeling a bit delayed this evening...
[20:51] <matelko> -ntzrmtthihu777-  Thank you very much for your help! My partitions are working like I wanted now.
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: I hates it
[20:52] <tgm4883> kurteknikk_, for instance, running 'ubuntu-bug mythbuntu-common' takes you to  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-common/+filebug/1526fa10-869f-11e2-94ce-0025b3df357a?
[20:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> matelko: just type ntz then tab, that highlights your message so i can notice it better
[20:52] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: btw i know that that's going to be a replacement, i've actually replaced it with mongodb but i still have a server running mysql which i have to maintain of course
[20:52] <asses> up
[20:52] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: if mysql has its own project page with a bug tracker you could look to see if it was reported there
[20:52] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah. really screwed me up BUT I've administered debian servers before and it's not all that different really. Just gotta get used to the UI is all. Also, this touchscreen laptop + gnu paint = ridiculously awesome amateur pornographic drawings.
[20:52] <matelko> ntzrmtthihu777,  thank you.
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> enroxorz-work: Yeah, I got a dell all in one with a pinguy os 12.04
[20:53] <kurteknikk_> tgm4883: amazing, great thanks for you help, that's all i needed !
[20:53] <matelko> bye
[20:53] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: yeah i'm running version 5.5.29
[20:53] <enroxorz-work> ntzrmtthihu777:  the best part is i no longer have to deal with balsamiq or pencil for my wireframing.
[20:54] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: i reported the bug, and they said to try 5.5.30 because they fixed some memory leaks in that version
[20:54] <Elshar> Hey, how would I find out what flags/arguments/etc a package was compiled with?
[20:54] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: so even if it doesn't fix my issue, they still fixed other memory leaks, so i think it's important to be updated as a package in ubuntu
[20:54] <Elshar> I want to recompile nagios with some customizations, but I don't want to totally bork my existing install from the apt repo
[20:55] <SuperLag> I'm using Xubuntu, and I've got a dual-head setup. I'm trying to get the display settings to be stored, so that when I boot, I have spanning configured, and not mirroring. However, every time I have to reboot, it reverts to mirroring.
[20:55] <auronandace> kurteknikk_: good work on reporting
[20:55] <SuperLag> How do I get that to persist?
[20:57] <kurteknikk_> auronandace: thanks, usually i don't have enough time to contribute to developing projects, but i try to do my best in bug reporting
[20:58] <glauco291> guys,  I am on ubuntu 12.04, I have plugged my new monitor full hd, but ubuntu just show up to 1360x768 of resolution, I just finished to install ATI driver for my video card and rebooted, but I still cannot change to 1920x1080
[20:59] <tijs> type xrandr
[20:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> glauco291: check system tools > administration > Catalyst Control Center (as root)
[20:59] <tijs> what sizes are there?
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> auronandace: One more thing: If I install Ubuntu after OI, then, will the GRUB that OI has be replaced with GRUB2 or will I have to chainload the GRUB legacy?
[21:00] <glauco291> how can I open "system tools" it does not appear in dash
[21:00] <glauco291> ntzrmtthihu777: ^
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> oop, lol you are using unity
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, seach for control center
[21:00] <tijs> he means using gnome2
[21:00] <tijs> XD
[21:01] <glauco291> do you wanna mean system settings ntzrmtthihu777?
[21:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> tijs: hey gnome2 whips the shit outta unity. I know where any program I want is, and I don't have to search a fickle dash
[21:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> glauco291: no, I meant exactly what I said, I just was thinking of another de]
[21:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> *de
[21:02] <xilo> i have some stuff like tmux and urxvtd and my xresources sourced on login... how do i do this
[21:02] <IdleOne> !language | ntzrmtthihu777
[21:02] <tijs> haha I understand that
[21:02] <vman> i have a problem with ssh after setting up an ssh tunnel, can anyone help?
[21:02] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, you'll need to chainload openindiana's grub (because of zfs i think)
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, probably not  worth doing then... esp since OI lacks WPA2 Enterprise support @ this time. Thx anyway
[21:03] <auronandace> SonikkuAmerica: unless you simply want to use openindiana's grub instead
[21:04] <glauco291> I am finding "control center" either "administration" either "catalyst"
[21:04] <glauco291> I am not** finding...
[21:06] <glauco291> I make this way: system settings -> additional drivers > I selected ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics card and clicked in "activate", now it's downloading something
[21:06] <glauco291> I made*
[21:08] <Elshar> awesome, I found the build log for the package, and was able to find the --configure line :D
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, lost connection.
[21:12] <Guest50689> hi
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> if anyone was talking to me about an issue please repeat your last statement
[21:12] <Guest50689> i need some advice
[21:12] <Guest50689> to start programming ubuntu
[21:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> programming what
[21:13] <puraki> programming language?
[21:14] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> help? installation mount issue. :)
[21:14] <Guest50689> yes
[21:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: refresh me, I have been tackling alot of people's issues
[21:14] <bobka> I'm installing server 12.04 LTS. I have the non-free driver I need (rt73.bin) on a usb stick as installation requests. But installation doesn't proceed: mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed. Invalid argument. And later; { phy0 -> rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Firmware. }  Many t&e later, I ask should I copy the driver from usb stick to /lib/firmware, and go back to "detect network hardware"?
[21:15] <puraki> I have an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS system on VirtualBox 4.1.4 on Windows 7 64-bit.
[21:15] <bobka> mount fails
[21:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, first off what device name does your usb stick have? for example sda1, sdb, etc
[21:15] <puraki> When I click on the Unity dash, the dash doesn't fade in.
[21:16] <Novus> did you connect to the internet via lan first?
[21:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> puraki: you cannot expect full performance under vbox under vbox
[21:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> *vbox under windows7
[21:16] <Novus> i had that problem with ubuntu 9 I had to connect to lan frist and get updates to tuen wifi on
[21:17] <Novus> the updates may also contain drivers for your card too
[21:17] <Novus> i think it was a hacking thing they didn't want to be appart of or something
[21:18] <Novus> that work for you?
[21:19] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> assume /dev/sda but would like to confirm. lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 009 ID 0930:6533
[21:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> /dev/sda is usually /
[21:19] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: sda is the disk, not a partition
[21:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: in either case its not the one we are looking for, don't get pedantic
[21:20] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> thks, how do I find it?
[21:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: how many hdd's and/or usb sticks do you have?
[21:21] <puraki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2122670
[21:21] <auronandace> bobka: launch gparted and identify them
[21:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: did you not listen? he is using ubuntu server, no gui
[21:22] <lantizia> Hey on older ubuntu's for a quick speed up you could swap from compiz to metacity with metacity --replace & but if you run that now although it works - unity dissapears - without logging out, how can it stil be achieved>?
[21:22] <tasslehoff> I'm sharing a folder with samba. Inside that folder I have an encfs-mountpoint. That one is not visible for people mounting the samba share. I want it to be. Can I?
[21:22] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: apologies
[21:22] <bobka> I'm working from the install CLI, no gparted
[21:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> lantizia: unity is a compiz plugin, you cannot have it without compiz
[21:22] <auronandace> bobka: try parted instead then
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: why use software when logic would do it?
[21:23] <bobka> not found
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: how many hdd and usb sticks are currently connected
[21:23] <auronandace> bobka: sudo fdisk -l
[21:24] <ozhanozen> hella
[21:25] <ozhanozen> How can i install a program in a tar.gz file?
[21:25] <ozhanozen> there is no install file in it
[21:25] <auronandace> ozhanozen: normally you don't, compiling should usually be the last resort
[21:25] <bobka> one mirrored raid, 3 usb. stick is (lsusb) Bus 001 Device 009 ID 0930:6533
[21:25] <auronandace> !software | ozhanozen
[21:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: just give me a list lol
[21:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: I could have your answer in 5 minutes if you would listen and ignore auronandace
[21:26] <styler2go> hello guys. my server is under very high load right now and i dont know if i have misconfigured something so that it could have much more load.. can someone help me?
[21:26] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> lol
[21:26] <aevin_> hello #ubuntu, i have a problem with some /dev/sdxx nodes missing how do I troubleshoot?
[21:27] <pa> question: i read that in 12.04LTS i could tag files in nautilus
[21:27] <pa> but in 12.10 i cant find the option. how's that?
[21:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: how. many. drives.
[21:27] <auronandace> bobka: do you get any output from: sudo fdisk -l
[21:28] <ozhanozen> I need to install kompozer v0.8 . How can i install it? it doesnt have a .deb
[21:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> pa: because quantal is precise's retarded cousin
[21:28] <styler2go> http://snag.gy/sDYnO.jpg this is how "top" looks like and i dont know why its never 100%... is there something i am misisng?
[21:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> ozhanozen: sudo apt-get komposer does not do it?
[21:28] <aevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591498/
[21:28] <aevin_> but no /dev/sdc1 node exists
[21:29] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> one HW mirrored raid (2 drives) 3 usb - wireless nic, kb, stick.
[21:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> styler2go: that is because linux is more efficent than windows
[21:29] <aevin_> and dmesg says there is no partition table: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591501
[21:29] <styler2go> so?
[21:29] <styler2go> it is under max load but is never 100%?
[21:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: just storage devices, not devices
[21:30] <Guest97010> hello, whats the commant to start mplayer and let it start playing a audio cd?
[21:30] <bean__> styler2go: hit "1" on top and it will show cores
[21:30] <bobka> auronandace> no root needed in install, no fdisk either.
[21:31] <styler2go> 1?
[21:31] <bean__> styler2go: as in, hit the number one, inside of your top terminal
[21:31] <bean__> and it will show the % per core.
[21:31] <styler2go> yes
[21:31] <bean__> styler2go: and those #'s do add up to 100%
[21:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: auronandace is wasting your time.
[21:31] <auronandace> bobka: no fdisk? fdisk is installed by default in all ubuntu versions
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: if you only have 2 hdd + the usb stick then it must be either sda, sdb, or sdc. I am guessing sdc.
[21:32] <donavan01> is it possible to set ubuntu up so that it will install and boot to a software raid array
[21:32] <styler2go> http://styler2go.de/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html what do you think baout these loads? are they ok or very bad?
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> try sudo mkdir /media/usb
[21:32] <bean__> styler2go: it depends on how many cores you have
[21:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: then sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/usb
[21:33] <bobka> auronandace> r u trolling? i'm in install!!
[21:33] <styler2go> i cant see any core number
[21:33] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: you mount partitions, not whole devices
[21:33] <bean__> styler2go: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:33] <bean__> styler2go: and it will show you how many cores you have
[21:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: whatever
[21:33] <bean__> styler2go: it sounds like you're in a bit over your head :\
[21:33] <styler2go> 2ghz... 6 cores
[21:34] <styler2go> bit over my head?
[21:34] <auronandace> bobka: my apologies, i thought it was there
[21:34] <bean__> styler2go: as in, you don't know much about doing this sort of things.
[21:34] <styler2go> yes
[21:35] <auronandace> bobka: it's on my 12.10
[21:35] <styler2go> i would buy a better server but i dont think i am using every performance this server could give me
[21:35] <bean__> styler2go: a load average of 12 would be fine on your server and it looks like you never go over 1.5
[21:35] <bean__> styler2go: what do you need a server for anyways
[21:35] <styler2go> android app
[21:35] <jxshxx> Stuck trying to install 12.04 with XP.  Need help making a partition for Ubuntu and have a dual boot.
[21:36] <bean__> styler2go: I do mine on a shared hosting box, not very expensive
[21:36] <styler2go> about 300-400 users right now at the same time...
[21:36] <k1l_> jxshxx: just install win xp. then shrink the win partition and make 2 or 3 new one for ubuntu
[21:36] <bean__> hmm
[21:36] <bean__> thats really not bad then
[21:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> jxshxx: the installer will walk you through it, its easy
[21:36] <styler2go> can i do anything to make my server faster?
[21:36] <styler2go> or is there no way?
[21:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> styler2go: get better hardware
[21:38] <styler2go> so there is no other way? :D
[21:38] <bean__> styler2go: you're not high load, it's likely not your server that is slow
[21:38] <styler2go> hmm
[21:38] <aevin_> hey all... i have a problem mounting my ntfs drive in ubuntu 12.04.  The kernek doesn't find the proper partition table
[21:38] <styler2go> are you sure?
[21:38] <aevin_> kernel*
[21:39] <auronandace> styler2go: your top output shows over 40% cpu idle
[21:39] <styler2go> Load Average	0.92, 1.38, 1.37
[21:39] <Guest97010> hello, whats the commant to start mplayer and let it start playing a audio cd? (playing without stopping al the time)
[21:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest97010: what do you need a command for? use an gui app unless you are on server or something
[21:40] <pa> ntzrmtthihu777, now it's clear :)
[21:40] <Guest97010> ntzrmtthihu777: in crontab
[21:40] <styler2go> my complete android app is lagging so hard
[21:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest97010: gotcha. let me see about it
[21:40] <styler2go> this morning: one seocnd loading, now: much more than 30 seconds
[21:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> i think I got it, do you intend to have the cd always in the drive?
[21:41] <styler2go> now it tells me: Load Average	1.27, 1.42, 1.39
[21:41] <Guest97010> almost
[21:42] <jxshxx> The installer USED to be easy, and walked you through a slider for partition size.  Now, I get 2 options 1- Use the whole disc or 2 - "Something else", which takes me to a NOT easy page where I am apparently supposed to make a new partition table.
[21:42] <Guest97010> ntzrmtthihu777: i want to make a alarmcloc and then put a certain CD into it the evening before
[21:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> something like mount then for i in {1..100}; do mplayer /path/to/track1 && /path/to/track2; done and so on so on so forth
[21:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> jxshxx: you ever just considered using a virtual box
[21:44] <jxshxx> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes, but this isn't the right situation for it.
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jxshxx: what is the situation, then?
[21:44] <Ben64> Guest97010: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: will that keep playing?
[21:44] <Ben64> it should
[21:45] <Ben64> also, the "at" command is handy for alarm clock stuff, Guest97010
[21:45] <Guest97010> Ben64, ntzrmtthihu777: mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda:// is stopping every second
[21:45] <Ben64> every second?
[21:45] <Ben64> you're doing something wrong
[21:45] <Guest97010> Ben64: yes,
[21:45] <bean__> styler2go: you dont understand what load average means
[21:45] <jxshxx> ntzrmtthihu777: Must maintain XP on an old lappy, dual boot, prove to the owner Linux will work better, THEN install on the whole disc :)
[21:46] <Guest97010> i just pasted the comand ...
[21:46] <bean__> styler2go: since you have 6 cores, you could use up to 6.0 load average before it is bad
[21:46] <styler2go> bean__, i think i dont..
[21:46] <bean__> and even then a load of 12 would be okay
[21:46] <styler2go> maybe i have only one core
[21:46] <styler2go> it is a vserver
[21:46] <styler2go> mayb ewlimited to one
[21:46] <styler2go> maybe limited*
[21:46] <bean__> well, what company did you get it through
[21:47] <bean__> /what are you paying for
[21:47] <styler2go> 12€/month
[21:47] <Guest97010> ben64: i just pasted the comand ...
[21:48] <bean__> styler2go: no, i mean, what "plan"
[21:48] <jxshxx> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't understand where the "Install alongside" option went in the installer menu.  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[21:48] <styler2go> wait a second, bean__  ...
[21:48] <nicf> Quick question about the installer: I have Windows 8 on this new laptop I'm on, and it came with a couple recovery partitions on it in addition to the big partition Windows is on. If I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8," can I be sure that it will definitely only mess with the big partition?
[21:48] <styler2go> the site is not available in english...
[21:48] <Guest97010> Ben64: i just pasted the comand ... with parole etc. it works. so the hardware should at least be capable of it :-D
[21:48] <bean__> styler2go: it's okay, i can translate. I speak a bit of german
[21:48] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777> no sdc. had to mkdir /media/usb. mount /dev/sdb /media/usb failed : Invalid argument -> (just like the installer.)
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> what a pain.
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777>  try cd /media
[21:49] <Ben64> Guest97010: then add -cache 4096
[21:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> then ls
[21:49] <nicf> The sizes seem to add up right but I'm nervous about doing something irreversible.
[21:49] <styler2go> https://www.hosteurope.de/Server/Virtual-Server/Virtual-Server-L/
[21:49] <bobka> I assume I can't see file on stick until its mounted?
[21:50] <bean__> styler2go: okay, that doesn't tell me how many virtual cores
[21:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: just see what is inside of /media
[21:50] <styler2go> yes, there are no more informations
[21:50] <styler2go> only the xxl server uses dedicated cores
[21:51] <bobka> usb
[21:51] <bean__> styler2go: oh, you have XXL
[21:51] <styler2go> no i dont habe
[21:51] <Guest97010> Ben64: still :-S the first time was 2 seconds
[21:51] <styler2go> i just said only xxl uses dedicated cores...
[21:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: well, this is getting to be a pain
[21:51] <Guest97010> Ben64: Failed to open LIRC support.   You also may consider paying for more resources.  Theres not much that can be done for a cheap VPS like that
[21:53] <styler2go> whats a shared hosting provider? :o
[21:54] <Ben64> Guest97010: well keep adjusting cache till it works
[21:54] <bobka> auronandace> I'll bite. brb...
[21:54] <bean__> styler2go: like a thing where its a big server, with many other people on it.
[21:54] <Guest97010> Ben64: does it make sence with "Cache not responding! [performance issue]" ?
[21:54] <bean__> styler2go: what software runs your app
[21:54] <n0aG0re> I'm having problems keeping login passwords and proprietary drivers persistant on my persistant usb. Anyone here that can help?
[21:55] <Ben64> Guest97010: never seen that
[21:55] <styler2go> you mean serverside or what my app is fore?
[21:55] <aevin_> i'm unable to mount my 3TB ntfs drive.  Anyone here that can help?
[21:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> bobka: do you have lynx installed?
[21:55] <Guest97010> Ben64: perhaps i have to stay at the bad mp3s :-S and creating new playlists if i want another CD
[21:56] <bobka> auronandace> THANKS!
[21:56] <Ben64> Guest97010: why are mp3s bad?
[21:56] <bean__> styler2go: server side
[21:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: lesser quality of sound at times
[21:56] <styler2go> its php and mysql
[21:56] <auronandace> bobka: is sdb your usb then?
[21:56] <Guest97010> Ben64: becourse they are from youtube -live, bad upload quality etc.
[21:56] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: not noticeable at high bitrate
[21:57] <bean__> styler2go: yeah, not very heavy weight. You might try optimizing your mysql database though
[21:57] <Ben64> Guest97010: why not rip your cds then?
[21:57] <bobka> step 1 - mount file complete.
[21:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: I said at times. perhaps his are not high.
[21:57] <styler2go> i already did :)
[21:57] <styler2go> show process wont show anything executing long
[21:57] <bobka> auronandace>  yeah
[21:57] <auronandace> bobka: goody
[21:57] <Guest97010> Ben64: have to find out how etc.
[21:57] <warfaren> i want to add a boot parameter to "kopt" in /boot/grub/menu.lst but i don't have that file. i'm running ubuntu 10.04
[21:57] <warfaren> i assume it's a newer version of grub that has the file somewhere else, so where do i add it in?
[21:57] <Ben64> Guest97010: k3b can
[21:58] <auronandace> !grub2 | warfaren
[21:58] <bean__> styler2go: looks like plenty of free memory too, its a native android app on the frontend too, yeah?
[21:58] <warfaren> it's grub2? because i'm quite sure it says 1.98 when im booting
[21:58] <auronandace> warfaren: yeah, thats grub2
[21:58] <warfaren> oh, i thought it would be 2.something
[21:59] <styler2go> whats native for you? its mostly java, only the chat (which seems to cause the heavy load) is html + ajax
[21:59] <auronandace> warfaren: i don't understand gnu's numbering either
[21:59] <Guest97010> Ben64: also have a comuter with xp and mediaplayer ... but then i still have to make the playlist every time and replace the old one instead of just putting another CD into it
[21:59] <warfaren> alright..
[21:59] <aevin_> Why would the kernel in 12.04 not be able to detect a partition but Windows can?
[21:59] <bean__> styler2go: native means java. The HTML + ajax will likely always be slow.
[22:00] <bean__> styler2go: cell networks are pretty slow
[22:00] <Ben64> aevin_: kernels don't detect partitions
[22:00] <styler2go> its only laggy right now
[22:00] <coder2> what is channel for dev?
[22:00] <styler2go> on normal days the server is completly ok
[22:00] <warfaren> auronandace: those links had nothing on "kopt", so i need to edit something under /etc/grub.d/ ? i've looked there and it was messy
[22:01] <bobka> Thnks for the help all. I'm going to copy rt73.bin to lib/firmware, umount usb, and backup the install to 'detect network hardware.'
[22:01] <aevin_> Ben64: what detects partitions?  i see messages in dmesg... i thought that was the kernel's log?
[22:01] <bean__> styler2go: i dont know that I can really help you, you might want to pay for a better server.
[22:01] <styler2go> the problem is
[22:01] <Ben64> aevin_: its complicated, whats your problem?
[22:01] <styler2go> i dont know how its called in english
[22:02] <styler2go> the server only have very high load an specific days and hours
[22:02] <bean__> styler2go: that is common with many servers.
[22:02] <bean__> styler2go: and 1-4 ish load isn't super high
[22:02] <styler2go> most time the server is bored :D
[22:02] <ozhanozen> hey
[22:02] <warfaren> aha, found it. thanks for making me understand that i'm running grub2 and not grub1, that helped me a long way
[22:02] <ozhanozen> how can i install kompozer on ubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[22:02] <ozhanozen> please help
[22:02] <aevin_> Ben64: I have a 3TB internal sata drive that has a gpt partition table and a single ntfs partition. fdisk shows the partition as /dev/sdc1 but there is no /dev/sdc1 node
[22:03] <styler2go> it is showing me a red ! on the left of the load
[22:03] <AnotherPersona> Hello! I am trying to install a ros (robot operating system) package and it apparently depends on an old version of boost
[22:03] <bean__> styler2go: yeah, so only slow when many people are connecting. Have you looked at the your apache max processes? and your max connections for mysql?
[22:03] <AnotherPersona> so I get a bunch of unmet dependencies
[22:03] <styler2go> bean__, now its Load Average	2.17, 2.08, 1.84
[22:03] <aevin_> Ben64: without the device node I can't mount it
[22:03] <bean__> styler2go: thats still not very high
[22:03] <Ben64> ozhanozen: sudo apt-get install kompozer
[22:03] <rats_> ozhanozen: have you checked to see if Kompozer is in the repos
[22:04] <Ben64> aevin_: check in gparted or parted, fdisk doesn't do gpt
[22:04] <styler2go> bit why is there a red ! then?
[22:04] <AnotherPersona> can anyone suggest how to 'fake out' the package to use the newer version of boost? or something
[22:04] <bean__> styler2go: i have a 4 core server that loads sites just fine up to about a load of 20.
[22:04] <styler2go> maybe my vserver is limited to that load?
[22:04] <rats_> that should work too
[22:04] <bean__> styler2go: it very well could be.
[22:05] <aevin_> Ben64: parted /dev/sdc print says: Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
[22:05] <styler2go> bean__, i found something: http://snag.gy/DR4uh.jpg
[22:05] <Ben64> aevin_: thats not good
[22:06] <bean__> styler2go: so 1 cpu. so a load of 2 is going to start feeling the pain
[22:06] <bean__> styler2go: i suggest you upgrade
[22:06] <aevin_> Ben64: indeed. the drive works fine in windows
[22:06] <styler2go> Load Average	2.4, 2.41, 2.02
[22:06] <styler2go> uhm
[22:07] <aevin_> Ben64: Also a similar line in dmesg: [    2.897166]  sdc: unknown partition table
[22:08] <styler2go> bean__, i would just need a better cpu, right?
[22:08] <bean__> styler2go: probably.
[22:08] <Ben64> aevin_: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdc
[22:08] <styler2go> i will write a ticket if they can do anything for me
[22:09] <styler2go> i dont need more than 50gh storage.. and 2gb ram
[22:10] <Juanito_Fulencia> what line should i add to "/etc/default/grub" to remove the entry for testing ram for the list?
[22:10] <styler2go> bean__, thank you for your help!
[22:10] <bean__> np, styler2go
[22:10] <aevin_> Ben64: Package gdisk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:10] <Juanito_Fulencia> google was not exactly friendly with me in the matter.
[22:10] <aevin_> Ben64: E: Package 'gdisk' has no installation candidate
[22:11] <Ben64> aevin_: uh, what version of ubuntu are you on
[22:11] <aevin_> 12.04
[22:11] <Ben64> !info gdisk precise
[22:11] <Ben64> its there
[22:11] <bobka> ntzrmtthihu777 & auronandace> FYI - install picked up the wireless NIC. Now I have a netwoked server. Thanks!
[22:12] <bobka> *networked
[22:12] <aevin_> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591633/
[22:12] <Soundman> Irc gnu community is bigger than i expected O.o nice to know, ill have some fun when @work
[22:12] <aevin_> Ben64: I'm booted into a liveusb
[22:13] <Ben64> oh..
[22:13] <Ben64> why
[22:13] <Ben64> and it should still work there
[22:13] <aevin_> because this machine needs to dual boot into windows
[22:13] <auronandace> !yay | bobka
[22:14] <aevin_> and without working disks... liveusb is safest option just now
[22:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> how do you use the ubuntu version of unetbootin to install to hdd
[22:16] <art1> is there a list of devices that are compatible with 12.04?
[22:17] <auronandace> !hcl | art1
[22:20] <art1> I'm only curios cuz when looking at say newegg.com, devices are listed with windows and MacOS but don't say anything about linux
[22:21] <Soundman> On Ubuntu official site should be list like u are searching for
[22:22] <fidel> apart from that list - i almost never had issues installing ubuntu on whatever x86 hardware
[22:23] <Soundman> Cause?
[22:23] <fidel> so in general it usualy works - with minor issues - but usualy you'll be able to find workarounds & fixes for those isses. generaly spoken
[22:23] <Soundman> general i hadnt any problems too at all
[22:24] <art1> kk, ty
[22:25] <Soundman> By the way, have anybody any ideas to make lxde faster at all ? On netbook what im using at work it still sloooowww
[22:25] <Soundman> 12.04 on atom and 1gb ram isnt to fast.
[22:26] <pwarf> Hey guys, I've got a question. I keep trying to install 12.04 alongside windows with the downloader from Ubuntu
[22:26] <pwarf> And, it keeps giving me the "uncompression failed, system halted" error
[22:27] <Soundman> Try to download iso file and use unetbotin
[22:27] <bobka> Once this install is complete, I'll be back. The display I'm forced to use is ancient (1991 - pre-VESA2). I've good in Knoppix Live-CD, but my grub kung-fu is weak.
[22:32] <gp5st> Sorry if this isn't the place #openssl is pretty dead and I thought someone here might be knowledgeable. When an SSL/X.509 certificate is renewed, e.g. before it expires, does the fingerprint of the certificate stay the same? Does one need to use the same csr as the first time to get the same fingerprint? Will the fingerprint always change.  Is there any identifier based solely on the key itself?
[22:33] <k1l_> gp5st: if you know its offtopic better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic from the start
[22:35] <gp5st> k1l_: it's not relevant to ubuntu specifically, but its still related to sysadmining, so I didn't think I would be breaking the spirit of the channel
[22:43] <xilo> how do i get any de/wm  .xinit or similar on gnome3 to get run?
[22:50] <XSevenX> Hello.
[22:50] <XSevenX> I finally have a copy of Windows 7 and I'm looking to install it
[22:50] <XSevenX> how can I clear my hard drive of all data to make a fresh installation of this OS?
[22:51] <tgm4883> !windows | XSevenX
[22:51] <XSevenX> tgm4883 this has nothing to do with Windows
[22:51] <XSevenX> I want to completely clear my hard drive
[22:51] <aevin_> Ben64: I got gdisk working http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[22:51] <tgm4883> XSevenX, so?
[22:52] <tgm4883> XSevenX, installing windows does completely wipe the hard drive
[22:52] <XSevenX> and I doubt the #windows IRC will tell me how to remove Linux software within Linux, smart ass.
[22:52] <tgm4883> XSevenX, just install windows. It will wipe the hard drive
[22:53] <XSevenX> Okay, thanks.
[22:53] <IdleOne> XSevenX: mind the language and attitude please. To answer your question, put the windows CD and have it format the entire drive, more help in ##windows
[22:54] <deadweasel> can I reconnect my terminal to a process that has a CLI, but I don't have that window open anymore?
[22:55] <aevin_> Why can't I mount this disk? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[22:55] <IboS> deadweasel use screen ?
[22:55] <deadweasel> i am.
[22:55] <hector__> anyone knows the name of a well-visited 3d modelling group here?
[22:55] <hector__> I tried all likely names
[22:55] <hector__> or many
[22:55] <deadweasel> IboS: I'll double check see if I missed it in screen -ls
[22:56] <IboS> deadweasel screen -r to reattach
[22:56] <hector__> anyone knows of a 3d modelling group?
[22:56] <hector__> my channels window freezes every time, so I cant search
[22:57] <deadweasel> IboS: yup, I missed it, just had to specifically reconnect to it.
[22:57] <deadweasel> i thought screen -RR reconnected all possibles?
[22:57] <aevin_> Why can't I mount my 3TB SATA ntfs disk in 12.04?
[22:58] <Eric_> help
[22:58] <Eric_> im trying to upgrade from9.04 to a newer release
[22:59] <Eric_>  can someone please help
[23:00] <hector__> anyone knows the name of a well-visited 3d modelling group here?
[23:00] <LargePrime> hello.  I have a hosted ubuntu server that i would like a very light weight gui for.  connecting from a win machine
[23:01] <aevin_> i think i have discovered a bug in Ubuntu
[23:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> LargePrime: I hear xfce is light
[23:01] <Lachesis> sgdisk or gdisk or gptfdisk or fdisk for creating a gpt partition table?
[23:01] <LargePrime> that is a full desktop, right?
[23:02] <LargePrime> and yes i hear linus has chosen that
[23:02] <LargePrime> I just want to remote in with a super light weight gui
[23:02] <tgm4883> !old | Eric_
[23:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> LargePrime: yeah, the whole #! from what I hear
[23:02] <nuno_nunes> Lachesis: the gparted works to GPT
[23:02] <tgm4883> hmm
[23:02] <tgm4883> !unsupported | Eric_
[23:03] <tgm4883> !oldreleases | Eric_
[23:03]  * tgm4883 googles
[23:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: he is trying to upgrade, geeze
[23:03] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, yes, and there are instructions for upgrading from old unsupported releases
[23:04] <kalenjohnson> I have a lightdm.log file that has jumped up to 60gb... anyone heard of that?
[23:04] <aevin_> hey all. what do i do if i think i've found a kernel bug?
[23:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Eric_: may as well just do a fresh install, hope you used a separate /home partition, because quite frankly upgrading in-install bites
[23:04] <tgm4883> !EOL
[23:05] <tgm4883> !EOL | ntzrmtthihu777 Eric_
[23:06] <tgm4883> oh, apparently he left before we started helping him
[23:06] <tgm4883> :/
[23:07] <aevin_> Can you help me instead? ;)
[23:07] <tgm4883> aevin_, did you file a bug report?
[23:07] <aevin_> I am very new to this so want to be sure I'm not just doing something wrong...
[23:08] <k1l_> !bug | aevin_
[23:08] <tgm4883> aevin_, so whats going on
[23:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> tgm4883: don'tcha point that at me
[23:08] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, just showing you what I was looking for
[23:09] <aevin_> tgm4883: i have a system with a 3tb sata drive connected internally.  the drive it gpt and has a single ntfs partition.  windows sees the drive without problems, ubuntu doesn't
[23:09] <aevin_> tgm4883: fdisk shows the partition, gdisk does not
[23:10] <tgm4883> aevin_, sounds like you need to install the ntfs stuff i guess
[23:10] <tgm4883> !ntfs | aevin_
[23:11] <maxb> #ubuntu-devel
[23:11] <maxb> oops
[23:11] <aevin_> tgm4883: no. ntfs-3g is installed but it wouldn't metter if it wasn't as gdisk doesn't even see a partition
[23:12] <tgm4883> aevin_, not sure, I don't have any NTFS drives that large
[23:12] <aevin_> tgm4883: output of gdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[23:12] <aevin_> tgm4883: and output of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591501/
[23:13] <aevin_> tgm4883: line 810 is interesting [    2.897166]  sdc: unknown partition table
[23:13] <aevin_> tgm4883: but fdisk (which I understand doesn't support gpt) can see the partition: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591498/
[23:14] <aevin_> all very odd
[23:15] <tgm4883> aevin_, a quick search shows people have that drive working in ubuntu
[23:15] <tgm4883> aevin_, is that an internal drive, or did you stick it in an enclosure?
[23:16] <bekks> aevin_: Create a valid partition table, done.
[23:16] <aevin_> tgm4883: internal on the SB700 southbridge of my motherboard
[23:16] <tgm4883> aevin_, is there anything on the drive?
[23:17] <aevin_> bekks: windows thinks there is a valid partition table
[23:18] <aevin_> tgm4883: yes - lots of data that I need to keep.  if it was an empty drive i'd have put ext3/4 on it already
[23:19] <bekks> aevin_: use parted instead of fdisk to view the partition table.
[23:19] <tgm4883> aevin_, what version of ubuntu
[23:19] <aevin_> bejjs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591766/
[23:19] <aevin_> sorry... bekks*
[23:20] <jhutchins_wk> aevin_: Do you have ntfs3g installed?
[23:20] <aevin_> tgm4883: 12.04
[23:20] <kalenjohnson> so apparently lightdm.log grew to 60gb because I was under a brute force attack. Fun!
[23:20] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: ntfs3g will nbot help at all at this point determining the partitions on that drive
[23:21] <jhutchins_wk> Perhaps we are getting lost in unnecessary details if he just wants to use the drive.
[23:21] <aevin_> jhutchins_wk: ntfs-3g 2012.1.15AR.5 external FUSE 29 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
[23:21] <tgm4883> jhutchins_wk, ntfs3g is for write support, not read
[23:21] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: So you intend to say that there might be a fs on the entire disk, instead in a partition.
[23:22] <aevin_> windows reports that there is a small amount of "reserved" space at the beginning of the disk and then the remainder is a single partition of aprox 2.7TiB
[23:23] <aevin_> this is a gpt disk
[23:24] <tgm4883> aevin_, you said 'gdisk -l /dev/sdc' doesn't see it at all?
[23:25] <Bray90820> can anyone help me add ubuntu to my grub meny
[23:25] <Bray90820> menu
[23:25] <aevin_> tgm4883: gdisk sees the disk but no partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591721/
[23:25] <Ben64> aevin_: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc count=1024 of=/dev/shm/sdc; file /dev/shm/sdc
[23:25] <tole> wenas
[23:26] <aevin_> Ben64: what does that command do?
[23:26] <bekks> Interesting approach - using /dev/shm :)
[23:26] <Ben64> copies the first 524288 bytes to /dev/shm and has file examine it
[23:26] <aevin_> ben64: and what is /dev/shm?
[23:26] <Ben64> bekks: it'll go away by itself on reboot :)
[23:27] <Ben64> aevin_: ram space
[23:27] <aevin_> ok...
[23:27] <aevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591779/
[23:28] <osolus> I need to cram a live cd with support for a very old wireless pci card from netgear that will also fit on a rewritable 709mb cd. Where should I look.
[23:28] <kalenjohnson> osolus, are you talking Ubuntu specific?
[23:28] <packetfrog> I did a sudo apt-get remove compiz   and purge     and now I cant reinstall do to broken packages   how do I fix this?  I tried -f install   and synaptic
[23:29] <osolus> kalenjohnson: no, anything will do.
[23:29] <xilo> is there a way to change what the terminal shortcut launches?
[23:29] <Ben64> aevin_: i dunno, windows must do weird gpt stuff
[23:29] <elisa87> do you know what I should do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5591784/
[23:29] <kalenjohnson> osolus, Well I don't know about your specific driver compatibility... but there are lots of smaller distros. puppy linux, crunchbang, uhh... most anything with openbox
[23:29] <Bray90820> anyone wanna help me add ubuntu to a system that has ubuntu installed but to grub menu item for ubuntu
[23:30] <tgm4883> !grub | Bray90820
[23:30] <Bray90820> is ubottu a bot
[23:30] <aevin_> Ben64: Probably but I'm stuck with it for a while
[23:31] <Ben64> aevin_: would you be able to back up stuff and repartition the drive with good gpt?
[23:31] <Bray90820> tgm4883 i have two linux distros android and ubuntu but ubuntu is not listed
[23:31] <Bray90820> only android is
[23:32] <aevin_> Ben64: unfortunately it's the largest drive I have which makes doing a backup a bit of a mission
[23:32] <eduardo__> Hello!
[23:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yes, she is a bot
[23:32] <eduardo__> I found a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1063965)
[23:32] <Bray90820> ok
[23:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: so what is your problem
[23:33] <Bray90820> ubuntu is now shown in my grub menu
[23:33] <eduardo__> I'm with a problem caused by this bug! When I put the volume at 100% it is oscillating wildly!
[23:33] <Bray90820> i have 2 linux distros ubuntu and adroid
[23:34] <aevin_> So what's the concensus here? is this a bug, a duff drive or pilot error?
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: so how is that a problem?
[23:34] <Bray90820> ubuntu is not shown in my grub menu
[23:34] <Bray90820> enetho it's installed
[23:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh, you said now last time
[23:35] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i actually said it earlier but don't worry about it :p
[23:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, try booting a live ubuntu cd, adding the yannubuntu ppa and installing boot-repair and run it, it should fix you up in a jiffy
[23:36] <eduardo__> --'
[23:37] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i should note that android was what installed grub
[23:37] <Bray90820> 0.97
[23:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: ubuntu uses grub1.99, so you should install that.
[23:38] <Bray90820> well that is actually installed just not active at the moment
[23:38] <Bray90820> i can use that
[23:38] <maveas> QUESTION Is it safe to BL bluetooth, bnep and rfcomm? I don't need bluetooth on my desktop. :)
[23:38] <Bray90820> but android doesn't show up in that menu
[23:38] <elisa87> why am I receiving this error? hg: unknown command 'qclone'
[23:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> boot-repair should sort you
[23:39] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 your saying android will be listen if i use boot repare?
[23:40] <Bray90820> i'll brb ping me if you wanna tell me something
[23:40] <Matt1435> Hello #ubuntu community.  I'm trying to install the OS for the first time, and have already run into issues.  I'm hoping someone can assist.
[23:41] <maveas> Matt1435: Just ask :)
[23:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: likely
[23:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: what install medium
[23:42] <Matt1435> installing the desktop LTS version onto a prentium 4 dell
[23:42] <Matt1435> *pentium
[23:42] <xilo> is there a way to change what the terminal shortcut launches?
[23:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: from cd or usb
[23:42] <Matt1435> cd
[23:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: like a different terminal? or a different shell?
[23:42] <xilo> ntzrmtthihu777: a different terminal
[23:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: what is wrong
[23:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: do you want to use like xterm or something?
[23:43] <Matt1435> install worked fine and I can get to the login screen, but once I log in, I essentially have a blank background.  No top menu bar, no launcher on the left.  I can right click and create a file or folder, but that's it
[23:43] <xilo> i want to use urxvt but it doesn't create a shortcut icon or anything
[23:43] <Ben64> Matt1435: select "Ubuntu 2D" when logging in
[23:43] <Matt1435> tried that - same issue
[23:43] <Ben64> hmm
[23:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: run gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop
[23:44] <Matt1435> the computer is about 8 years old, but has 4gb of ram and an nvidia graphics card that's maybe 5 years old
[23:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> xilo: edit the line that says exec= to run whatever command launches the terminal you want
[23:44] <xilo> ah cool thanks
[23:44] <Matt1435> I assume that is sufficiently powerful
[23:45] <Ben64> Matt1435: you might want to try xfce or lxde
[23:45] <Matt1435> i tried reinstalling the OS a second time, but same issue
[23:45] <Matt1435> what are those?
[23:45] <Ben64> different desktop environments
[23:45] <aidencamo> Hello. I was wondering if anybody could answer a quick question I have about Wubi? My system is a Windows 8 system that was upgraded from Windows 7. If I use Wubi to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, would it use the Windows 8 bootloader or would it use grub?
[23:45] <Ben64> as opposed to unity, which the default ubuntu install is
[23:45] <elisa87> do  you know where Mercurial.ini is located? >?
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: differnt versions of ubuntu in essence. look for xubuntu or lubuntu
[23:46] <bcbc2> Matt1435: have you tried nomodeset?
[23:46] <Ben64> aidencamo: why would you do 10.04? 12.04 is out
[23:46] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 when i installed android next to ubuntu without installing the android grub i ran sudo update grub and android di not show up
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: I find lubuntu to be nice
[23:46] <Matt1435> bcbc2: i have not - what is nomodeset
[23:46] <bcbc2> aidencamo: Wubi uses the windows bootloader and grub
[23:46] <bcbc2> !nomodeset
[23:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: because maybe he has reasons
[23:46] <aidencamo> Awesome. So if I install 10.04, it'll co-exist with Windows 8 nicely?
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: update grub or update-grub?
[23:47] <escott> aidencamo, probably not easily
[23:47] <Ben64> 10.04 is only supported for another month :|
[23:47] <Matt1435> ubottu: how can I change that parameter?  I can't even get the terminal screen to appear
[23:47] <Ben64> doesn't make any sense to install 10.04 anymore
[23:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: at the grub menu hit e
[23:48] <bcbc2> Matt1435: check out that thread linked to.
[23:48] <Matt1435> grub menu?
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> then add nomodeset or whatever it is to the end
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, you did not see one as it booted? gives 4 choices by default
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Matt1435: normal, recovery, and 2 memtests
[23:48] <bcbc2> Matt1435: hold down the Shift key when you boot and it will show the grub menu
[23:49] <Matt1435> ok, thanks
[23:49] <Matt1435> I will try this
[23:49] <Matt1435> thank you very much, everyone
[23:49] <Matt1435> much appreciated!
[23:49] <bobolopolis> elisa87: Mercurial.ini is the config file on Windows.  In Linux, it'll be .hgrc in your home directory.
[23:49] <aidencamo> My reasons for 10.04 are simple, 12.10 is nice, but my battery lasts about twenty minutes max. 10.04 feels slightly snappier and lighter on system resources. Even though my laptop is quad core, coupled with 6gb of ram and a pretty snappy GPU.
[23:49] <bcbc2> Matt1435: np
[23:50] <Ben64> aidencamo: 12.04 is just as snappy if you don't use 3d unity
[23:50] <Guest43280> o
[23:50] <Ben64> aidencamo: and like i said, 10.04 is only supported for another month, then you'll have to upgrade anyway
[23:50] <aidencamo> What's missing from 12.04 compared to 12.10?
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> aidencamo: yeah, re-install gnome-shell and it will look and feel just like 10.04, and be supported
[23:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> aidencamo: a whole lotta fail
[23:50] <Ben64> aidencamo: slightly newer versions of stuff?
[23:51] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 i did sudo update-grub
[23:51] <Ben64> i always stick with LTS releases. less updating.
[23:51] <aidencamo> Right, will do.     (In the NVidia driver list I didn't see it)
[23:58] <Ben64> LovCAPONE: yep
[23:58] <Bray90820> ntzrmtthihu777 when i was using the ubuntu grub with android installed i ran sudo update-grub and android didn't show up
[23:59] <LovCAPONE> Ben64: Thanks!
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, is the partition mounted?
[23:59] <Bray90820> the android partition?
[23:59] <bobolopolis> VanessaE: are you using a different video driver after the reinstall? otherwise, i have no idea
[23:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Bray90820: yeah
[23:59] <VanessaE> bobolopolis: nope, same old driver as always.
[23:59] <VanessaE> (fglrx)


[00:19] <cyberanger> wrst: ping
[00:20] <cyberanger> orangeninja: not much, just chilling
[00:20]  * cyberanger puts away the liquid nitrogen
[01:28] <cyberanger> wrst: got a question or two for you
[01:30] <wrst> hey cyberanger
[01:33] <cyberanger> wrst: what do you use with openlp, arch, ubuntu?
[01:42] <cyberanger> (seems I'm now being tasked to setup a system with goals that openlp should solve perfectly)
[01:42] <wrst> currently I am using a variety arch, ubuntu, win 7 fedora, etc to test on
[01:42] <wrst> cyberanger: its in QT so it works really well in kubuntu
[01:42] <wrst> depending on who your users are etc
[01:43] <wrst> if you use a straight ubuntu intall unity isn't something that works well due to how unity handles dual monitors
[01:43] <cyberanger> my users is a salvation army youth group, I'd be running it
[01:43] <cyberanger> and you know me, that kinda makes me consider trying with openbox first & foremost
[01:44] <wrst> ahh well if that's the case you should be good to go cyberanger, they have a ppa, which I'm sure you have looked at and also if you do /dev verses /release on the ppa you will get the latest code or you can get the code via checking out in launchpad or what not
[01:45] <cyberanger> I'm thinking arch over kubuntu (just seems kubuntu doesn't give kde any justice (even I respect kde, I just respect openbox more ;-))
[01:46] <cyberanger> anything I should be aware of, like a reason to chose dev over release for example
[01:46] <cyberanger> or a reason I should skip trying anything but kde (reason being tons of bugs, or something)
[01:47] <wrst> more up to date code and features and still stable, and if you go with arch cyberanger its in the AUR ther is a package openlp same as the /release ppa and then openlp-bzr that will pull in the latest code you just have to reinstall if you see updates you want
[01:47] <wrst> cyberanger: I run it in gnome-shell
[01:47] <cyberanger> (I've used similar software, but on windows, and not my setup, only used, not maintained)
[01:48] <wrst> well I can help with most things and what I can't they can over at #openlp
[01:48] <wrst> but its pretty simple setup to do
[01:48] <cyberanger> I figured so (contrary to my usual projects, which I go with overkill for)
[01:49] <cyberanger> so your actually using gnome-shell for it?
[01:50] <wrst> yes we had been using it every week right now we have win 7 and everyone hates it so going back to arch and gnome-shell
[01:50] <wrst> and these are die-hard windows users that are screaming for linux :)
[01:51] <cyberanger> lol, yeah, the other person involved respects my knowledge, but uses xp, says he's made ubuntu crash just as well
[01:52] <cyberanger> I'd love to know what crashed & why, but that's gonna make this a hard sell
[01:52] <cyberanger> (he's off when it comes to the youth group though
[01:52] <wrst> but really its really easy on arch as it is on ubuntu, also packages for fedora, pc-bsd, works with debian actually but not in a repo yet
[01:52] <cyberanger> so I'm getting it in there & see where it goes, he's willing to give it a try)
[01:52] <wrst> cool deal
[01:53] <cyberanger> wrst: ppa compatable with debian? or build from source?
[01:54] <wrst> its in python so if you have the depencies all you have to do is run the openlp.pyw file thats in the nightly build and you are good to go
[01:54] <cyberanger> (that's why I like openbox, vs gnome, it's nearly impossible to crash openbox to a lockup that compares to a BSoD, I've seen Gnome & KDE (and unity in worse, but dissimmilar ways) lockup really really bad, nothing but a hard reboot could do)
[01:55] <wrst> cyberanger: this isn't for debian but you can easily figure out the packages you need:http://wiki.openlp.org/Testing:Linux_Testing_Environment
[01:55] <cyberanger> maybe debian would work then
[01:55] <wrst> a debian install has most there are a few specific things that you would need for certain features but if they aren't by some chance in debians repos (highly unlikely) you can use easy_install
[01:55] <wrst> oh it works I have had it running on debian
[01:56] <wrst> cyberanger: brb in about 10-15
[01:57] <cyberanger> saw that link, just thought it'd be best to ask you for what's not written
[01:57] <cyberanger> I'm deadlined on phases here, no real time to debugg anything that could go wrong
[01:58] <cyberanger> I mean, it's more than enough time, but any unknown snag slowing things down is undiserable, be nice to not need to burn more time debugging
[01:59] <cyberanger> (nature of group projects, everybodys input takes time to sort the goals, configure it in, get them to like & use it, then so on)
[01:59] <cyberanger> ok wrst, I'll be here
[02:00]  * cyberanger hangs onto the modem ;-)
[02:10] <wrst> ok cyberanger back
[02:10] <wrst> one of the goals of openlp is to get into the debian repos I think that is a requirement before getting into ubuntu correct?
[02:13] <wrst> oh cyberanger just read your above messages we can get it up and running for you in just a little bit I think
[02:13] <cyberanger> oh, I think I can get it running, yeah
[02:14] <wrst> yeah its easy peasy, if I can do it i know you can :)
[02:14] <cyberanger> just choosing debian, or choosing openbox, so on
[02:14] <wrst> yeah I've had it running on mageia, mandriva too
[02:14] <cyberanger> wanted clarity after seeing qt & not in any repo (it's in a ppa & arch's user repo
[02:15] <cyberanger> and yeah, nearly always debian -> ubuntu repo)
[02:15] <wrst> its in fedora repos, but since its still not out of beta i think that's a little bit of why not in a ubuntu repo now
[02:15] <wrst> i'm a little, or a lot fuzzy on packaging
[12:55] <wrst> cyberanger: just checked with the OpenLP devs, they think the .deb might work with Debian, I suspect if you are running testing it should work
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> that took long enough
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> jeez
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[16:52] <Unit193> Howdy, howdy
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> hey Unit193
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> something went down with my quassel-core
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> a package update fixed it
[16:56] <Unit193> Ah. screen (not byobu) and irssi still working for me ;)
[17:00] <wrst> ugh pace_t_zulu :\
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: did you have the same thing?
[17:01] <wrst> no pace_t_zulu no issues
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> quassel-core was not connecting for me ... didn't have enough time to get to the bottom of it
[17:01] <wrst> but there was something that happened to some on quassel
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> but a quassel-core update came and fixed it without reboot
[17:01] <wrst> press f7 go to ignore list and add a ctcp ignore rule of *
[17:02] <wrst> i did that as I heard of some folks that were having issues
[17:02] <pace_t_zulu> f7?
[17:02] <wrst> i think the entire #quassel set of users got their cores messed up
[17:03] <wrst> yeah pace_t_zulu or Settings --> Configure Quassel
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> ok
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> f7 worked
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> wouldn't sure it would translate to OS X
[17:03] <wrst> ahh yeah forgot that
[17:04] <wrst> Unit193: some of us like to use a mouse on occasion :)
[17:10] <Unit193> wrst: Couldn't resist :D  I do have a mouse sitting right next to me though, but it might just be hiding from the mouse traps ;)
[17:11] <wrst> ha ha
[18:31] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[18:31] <pace_t_zulu> any suggestions as to how to get a fresh version of Git on a 8.04 server deployment?
[18:37] <Unit193> Well, the smart aleck in me says to answer "Update it to 11.04!", but that's not the answer you want
[18:45] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=701127 not for sure how up to date that is
[18:45] <wrst> oh points to this ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~smartlounge/+archive/ppa
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> wrst, this is what i'm going with http://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> that's the most elegant
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> would be more elegant on a 9.10+ version of Ubuntu
[19:11] <wrst> cool :)
[19:12] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: do have to ask i'm guessing lots of reasons why you wouldn't upgrade to 10.04?
[19:25] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: not my server to admin
[19:25] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: trying to tread lightly ;)
[19:26] <wrst> ahh I understand pace_t_zulu
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i consider myself lucky they gave me the keys to an ubuntu server ;)
[19:26] <wrst> ha ha yes cool


[01:00] <derekv> I'm really not falling in love with ansible
[01:00] <derekv> it's been very frustrating to work with
[01:07] <cmaloney> Its pretty particular on how you organize things.
[01:10] <derekv> it feels like i'm trying to deploy a cluster by holding my hands over my eyes, and copy-pasting shell scripts I randomly find on the internet together and hoping it runs
[01:10] <derekv> which I think is pretty close to how this works
[01:11] <derekv> I have yet to have a singe thing just work without a fight after the first "ping" command
[01:12] <derekv> my favorite feature right now is how if a command never exits, you also never get to see it's output
[01:20] <derekv> e.g. if a command unexpectedly asks for user input, you'll never know why.  it just hangs.
[01:21] <cmaloney> Yeah, that can be a pain in the ass
[01:21] <cmaloney> but it's not quite that bad.
[01:22] <cmaloney> I've been able to deploy things wouthout out too much difficulty.
[01:22] <cmaloney> There's definitely a learning curve though
[01:22] <derekv> i'm going to try chef next as a point of comparison
[01:23] <cmaloney> Ther'es dome good books on Ansible as well
[01:24] <derekv> but this blows dude.  i lost count of how many infuriating things i've had to figure out.
[01:48] <jrwren> derekv: ^5, we can start an ansible apathy club.
[01:49] <jrwren> tagline: ansible: I don't see what the fuss is about.
[01:50] <cscheib> derekv: feel free to drop into the Puppet user group I run some time if you wanna learn about Puppet... search Detroit Puppet User Group on meetup.com for our meeting announcements and such
[01:51] <derekv> i'm about to start a "big shell script" user group
[01:51] <derekv> =P
[01:51] <derekv> i'm sour right now.
[01:55] <jrwren> big shell scripts are the best.
[01:55] <jrwren> its really sad what hoops people will jump through to avoid big bash.
[01:59] <cscheib> eh, shell scripts are ok for smaller tasks
[01:59] <jrwren> I'll write everything in shell
[01:59] <jrwren> fork multiple ones, have the talking ot each other.
[01:59] <jrwren> bash4 has a hash type.
[02:00] <cscheib> derekv: https://github.com/brandonhilkert/fucking_shell_scripts
[02:00] <jrwren> that said, I did find fabric rather useful
[02:00] <jrwren> hahaha, nice.
[02:01] <jrwren> the best config management tool is not using a config mgmt tool.
[02:01] <jrwren> manage system images like cattle, not pets.
[02:02] <cscheib> yes, most config management tools allow you to do just that, if you set things up properly
[02:02] <jrwren> ha!
[02:02] <jrwren> why set anyting up?
[02:02] <jrwren> just do it.
[02:02] <jrwren> don't need config
[02:02] <cscheib> cuz some people live in the real world
[02:02] <jrwren> right.
[02:03] <jrwren> the world changes.
[02:03] <cmaloney> Hey now,  Ansible is pretty cool
[02:03] <cmaloney> I'm really enjoying how it works.
[02:03] <cmaloney> I don't thnink you can appreciate how it works if you just try to copy / paste playbooks from the net.
[02:03] <cmaloney> THat's not going to get you anywhere.
[02:03] <cmaloney> You need to understand what it's trying to do and how it does that effectively.
[02:04] <cscheib> indeed
[02:04] <cmaloney> Otherwise no config management is going to work
[02:04] <cscheib> you definitely need to know your shit, it's not a shortcut to knowing a software stack
[02:05] <cmaloney> Nope
[02:05] <cmaloney> None of them are.
[02:05] <cmaloney> They'll just bury your non-knowledge into a shaky foundation
[02:05] <jrwren> nothing is
[03:27] <derekv> i feel like i get it
[03:27] <derekv> it's trying to do thing "idempotently".  however I see that as a pipe dream.
[03:28] <derekv> no way your going to manage machines with shell script in a way that is really idempotent
[03:29] <derekv> but what killed it for me was how difficult it was making it to debug what was happening
[03:30] <derekv> chef or puppet might be worse for all I know
[03:33] <derekv> I want to build system images in a deterministic way by running scripts on top of snapshots, and then deploy these with the a minimum configuration difference between instances (ports, hostnames, keys)
[03:33] <derekv> if I'm never going to modify a running instance, then it wouldn't matter how I ran those scripts
[03:34] <derekv> problem is, not really sure how to do that with data
[03:34] <derekv> stupid data, making everything complicated.
[12:44] <mrgoodcat> so apparently you can now get facebook to pgp encrypt emails they send you https://www.facebook.com/notes/protecting-the-graph/securing-email-communications-from-facebook/1611941762379302
[12:52] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:07] <mrgoodcat> happy free speech day :)
[13:07] <mrgoodcat> for at least today the NSA is no longer allowed to collect your data en masse
[13:08] <cmaloney> For now
[13:09] <mrgoodcat> for now
[13:09] <mrgoodcat> and the cynic in me tells me there are probably workarounds they are trying to use
[13:10] <cmaloney> If those workarounds include getting an actual warrant from an actual judge then I'm OK with it.
[13:19] <wolfger> raise your hand if you think anything actually changed other than the legality of what they are doing.
[13:24] <_stink_> *crickets*
[13:26] <cmaloney> heh
[13:41] <phwelo> gm folks
[13:42] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:59] <greg-g> "Tough anti-smoking measures have gone into effect in the Chinese capital, where smoking is now banned in restaurants, offices and on public transport." that's not what I would consider "tough"
[15:59] <greg-g> http://www.sky105.com/2015/06/beijing-bans-smoking-in-public-starting_1.html
[16:06] <cscheib> derekv: I dunno, that sounds exactly like the problem config mgmt is designed to solve.  Are you sure no one's going to modify a running instance once it's up?  Are your systems truly throwaway?  What happens if DNS changes, etc... Also, keep in mind there're things like rspec-puppet that make it fairly simple to unit test your script/code
[16:08] <cscheib> derekv: (I tend to mention puppet specific things, as that's what I'm familiar with in etail)
[16:08] <cscheib> *detail
[16:53] <derekv> cscheib: I have a lot to learn.  it's greenfield, so I can learn in stages
[16:57] <cmaloney> I'm playing with Ansible roles righ tnow
[16:57] <cmaloney> they're pretty interesting in how they work
[17:13] <phwelo> cmaloney: are you looking at Ansible for servers or networking equipment?  I thought the possibilities to automate networking tasks were pretty cool there
[17:13] <cmaloney> phwelo: Servers mostly.


[02:45] <bgianf> Looks like you guys ported the following change to xenial's kernel tree: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/kernel-ppa/mirror/ubuntu-xenial.git/commit/mm?id=b56d2a75e1daae6ff6eedfb732eadf3c13df6090
[02:47] <bgianf> This introduced a bug (infinite loop) when using transparent huge pages.
[02:47] <bgianf> Fix is here: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/mm/huge_memory.c?id=8310d48b125d19fcd9521d83b8293e63eb1646aa
[02:48] <bgianf> Everyone on my team is hitting this bug on xenial, what's the likely hood of getting the fix ported?
[03:29] <bgianf> Went ahead and file here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1660518
[08:43] <smb> bgianf, Hm, looks like that FOLL_FORCE/FOLL_COW is already aked for (though for different reasons). There is hope to get it into this cycle
[08:47] <bgianf> smb, cool thanks for the info. Was there somewhere I could have looked to see that it was already asked for?
[08:47] <bgianf> Looked around briefly, didn't see anything...
[08:48] <smb> bgianf, It was on the kernel-team mailing list (think there is some archive, too, but probably hard to find by search)
[08:57] <smb> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2017-January/082114.html
[09:02] <bgianf> thanks for the link!
[13:45] <zioproto> hello all. I am new here. I would like some feedback about CONFIG_NET_DROP_MONITOR=n in the Ubuntu Kernel. It would be of great help to have it set to module. We use ubuntu for the openstack network node.
[13:50] <rtg> zioproto, I just set CONFIG_NET_DROP_MONITOR=m in what will become the Zesty kernel.
[13:50] <rtg> (based on your comment)
[13:50] <zioproto> thanks
[13:51] <zioproto> If this goes in Zesty I can package the application dropwatch for ubuntu
[13:51] <zioproto> at the moment is packaged only on Fedora
[13:52] <zioproto> https://fedorahosted.org/dropwatch/
[13:52] <zioproto> but it really needs that Kernel support
[13:54] <rtg> zioproto, It'll likely be a week or so before the 4.10 kernel gets promoted to the Zesty archive. (which is the version to which I've committed the CONFIG_NET_DROP_MONITOR patch)
[14:10] <zioproto> rtg, thanks ! how does it work for the Xenial kernels ?
[14:19] <rtg> zioproto, there doesn't seem to be a reason why it couldn't be set '=m'
[14:19] <rtg> zioproto, please file a bug and assign me to it
[14:29] <zioproto> rtg, here ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team
[14:31] <rtg> zioproto, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[14:34] <zioproto> rtg, redirects to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[14:34] <rtg> zioproto, maybe you have to be logged in
[14:34] <zioproto> rtg, this one works https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug
[14:35] <zioproto> maybe the +source/linux was missing ?
[14:37] <zioproto> rtg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1660634
[14:38] <zioproto> I cannot assign it to another person
[14:38] <zioproto> You may only assign yourself because you are not affiliated with this project and do not have any team memberships.
[14:40] <rtg> zioproto, done
[14:40] <zioproto> thanks!
[19:49] <zyga> ogasawara: hey, I'm sorry to bother you with such a tiny thing; I wrote a patch that exposes bind mount as a flag in mountinfo, do you think it makes sense to send this anywhere? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23901026/


[12:38] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, GrahamA said: !teamspeak is a Voice Over IP program mostly used by gamers.
[02:13] <Pricey> grr silly rain
[03:37] <maxamillion> anyone have power of ubotu other than Seveas?
[05:58] <Kprofthreat> Test me.
[05:59] <Hobbsee> Kprofthreat: okay, you're fine.
[05:59] <Kprofthreat> Thanks, Hobbs
[05:59] <Kprofthreat> Where's Calvin?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> Kprofthreat: thanks for your patience.
[06:00] <Kprofthreat> Lol, thank you for your fast response.
[06:00] <Hobbsee> duct taped, in the closet.
[08:20] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:20] <wols_> there is a psammer in #ubuntu
[08:21] <Madpilot> GNAA arseholes in #u
[12:24] <eth01> hey..
[01:33] <PriceChild> Grr should have seen their ips earlier...
[01:33] <PriceChild> *thought we had a banforward on those to here*
[03:22] <ubotu> Arwen called the ops in #kubuntu
[04:04] <sevillan> hola
[04:21] <lamya><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:22] <Hobbsee> ?
[04:22] <Pumpernickel> ...and?
[04:22] <elkbuntu> note the ip
[04:22] <jussi01> lol
[04:23] <Hobbsee> already done so
[04:31] <cdafranciscojl> ello
[04:32] <Tm_T> well hello
[04:35] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[04:51] <chispitas> hola
[04:51] <chispitas> hola
[04:52] <Tm_T> moin moin
[04:52] <eth01> ?
[04:52] <eth01> im banned from #ubuntu
[04:53] <Tm_T> eth01: congrats
[04:53] <eth01> well I didn't get myself banned
[04:53] <eth01> heh, brb
[04:54] <Tm_T> @btlogin
[04:55] <Tm_T> hum, what was it
[04:55] <Hobbsee> ubotu: btlogin
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btlogin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Tm_T> ah, slow
[04:55] <Hobbsee> ahh
[04:55] <Tm_T> got it
[04:55] <elkbuntu> the tracker is quite slow
[04:56] <Tm_T> yeah <3
[04:57] <elkbuntu> aha.. banned by PriceChild on apr 13
[04:57] <Tm_T> that's old
[04:57] <elkbuntu> and ompaul and seveas
[04:58] <vickymm><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:58] <Tm_T> A problem occurred in a Python script.  Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.
[04:58] <vickymm> estrella
[04:58] <elkbuntu> vickymm, hola?
[04:58] <Tm_T> meh
[04:59] <elkbuntu> bots
[04:59] <Tm_T> I see that 83.230 again and again
[04:59] <elkbuntu> pretty sure they're bots
[04:59] <elkbuntu> vickymm, hello, are you there?
[05:00] <Tm_T> haha @ #kubu
[05:01] <jussi01> lol
[05:01] <jussi01> up or down...
[05:01] <jussi01> :P
[05:04] <Hobbsee> darn.  where's ljl when you need him?
[05:04] <Tm_T> hiding you I guess
[05:11] <ubotu> Vorian called the ops in #ubuntuforums
[05:11] <Vorian> no i didn't
[05:11] <effie_jayx> ubotu,  I bet he did :D
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i bet he did :d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <Vorian> I sent a pm
[05:11] <Vorian> sorry about that
[05:37] <franpulianas><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:37] <franpulianas> 123456
[05:37] <atman> hello
[05:38] <jcasado> enter xchat
[05:39] <jrib> jcasado: what are you doing?
[05:39] <atman> i look girl
[05:42] <elkbuntu> atman, hmm?
[05:42] <jcasado> man
[05:42] <jcasado> you?
[05:43] <elkbuntu> jcasado, hello, what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <atman> elkbuntu  where  are  you   donde  estas
[05:44] <elkbuntu> atman, australiana, tu?
[05:45] <jcasado> to enter the chat
[05:45] <atman> i m  from  morocco   bat  i  live   in spain
[05:45] <jcasado> im from spain
[05:46] <PriceChild> jcasado, "/join #ubuntu"
[05:46] <jcasado> i live sevilla
[05:46] <elkbuntu> jcasado, atman there is also #ubuntu-es for spanish language help, or #ubuntu-es-es for the local community team
[05:47] <nalioth> this is not a social channel
[05:47] <jcasado> There is some girl in the chat connected
[05:48] <atman> yo  soltero  no  casado   boscando  una chica para casar
[05:49] <atman>    how  old  are  you
[05:49] <elkbuntu> these are not social channels atman. this channel is the control channel for operators, and #ubuntu is for support
[05:50] <elkbuntu> atman, stos no son canales sociales atman. este canal es el canal del control para los operadores, y el #ubuntu est para la ayuda
[05:52] <atman> u  have   e  mail
[05:59] <atman> what
[05:59] <Myrtti> you're one sad puppy
[06:01] <Tm_T> silly hu-man
[06:03] <atman> yes   where  are u
[06:03] <Myrtti> [18:52]  <+elkbuntu> atman, stos no son canales sociales atman. este canal es  el canal del control para los operadores, y el #ubuntu est  para la ayuda
[06:09] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:09] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, gordonjcp said: !ops All is spamming
[07:28] <ubotu> neil_ called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:28] <ubotu> emet^ called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:29] <ubotu> Some_Person called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:29] <nalioth> klined
[07:30] <ubotu> _Andrew called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:57] <ircoco> ola
[08:02] <Tm_T> awww
[08:02] <Tm_T> how sweet, they remember us <3
[08:57] <Pici> fyi, mike3_ has been sent numerous factoids today about !coc  and at least one for !language. Just wanted to give y'all the heads up.
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> mmkay
[10:13] <gnomefreak> incoming
[10:13] <rajkalyan> hello
[10:13] <gnomefreak> rajkalyan: who banned you from #kubuntu and when?
[10:13] <rajkalyan> i dont no
[10:13] <rajkalyan> who i ont know
[10:13] <rajkalyan> when
[10:13] <rajkalyan> like
[10:13] <rajkalyan> an hour ago
[10:14] <gnomefreak> rajkalyan: let me finish what im doing and ill look to see who it was
[10:14] <rajkalyan> thank  oyu
[10:14] <rajkalyan> thank you
[10:16] <PriceChild> rajkalyan, you were flooding lines of empty text.
[10:16] <rajkalyan> oh
[10:16] <rajkalyan> i didnt know
[10:16] <rajkalyan> i just started using irc today
[10:18] <PriceChild> rajkalyan, also. #kubuntu is for support of kubuntu only. Offtopic chatter should be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:18] <rajkalyan> i need support
[10:18] <rajkalyan> thats why i went there
[10:18] <PriceChild> I just notice not all your chat was about that ;)
[10:18] <PriceChild> I'll unban you now.
[10:19] <rajkalyan> thank you so much
[10:19] <rajkalyan> =D
[10:19] <gnomefreak> rajkalyan: when was this?
[10:19] <rajkalyan> an hour ago
[10:20] <rajkalyan> how do you become an op
[10:20] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: what was he baqnned for?
[10:20] <PriceChild> rajkalyan, earlier today, 7 hours?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> banned
[10:21] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: he said an hour so i scrolled
[10:21] <rajkalyan> what?
[10:21] <PriceChild> flooding which I guess was accidental
[10:21] <PriceChild> it was 7 hours ago ;)
[10:21] <gnomefreak> rajkalyan: it was well over an hour ago that you were banned
[10:21] <PriceChild> rajkalyan, anyway please feel free to /join #kubuntu :)
[10:22] <gnomefreak> the person that banned you left maybe 5 hours ago if not more
[10:22] <gnomefreak> ty PriceChild
[10:22] <rajkalyan> oh sorry
[10:22] <rajkalyan> i lost track of time
[10:22] <rajkalyan> thank you so much
[10:22] <rajkalyan> one more  thing
[10:23] <rajkalyan> how do you become an op
[10:23] <rajkalyan> ?
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> rajkalyan: You get asked, essentially.
[10:23] <PriceChild> Those that ask usually don't get. The channel contacts hire new operators when needed if there are suitable people around.
[10:24] <rajkalyan> just wonering
[10:24] <rajkalyan> thanks a lot
[10:41] <rajkalyan> yo peoples
[10:50] <mneptok> oy
[11:02] <PriceChild> jacobmp92 and johnc4510 have asked for ubuntu member cloaks... I think jenda is sorting that out and then I'll add them to launchpad group to keep track of them.
[11:05] <nalioth> PriceChild: are they Ubuntu members?
[11:05] <PriceChild> Yes they were approved this morning
[11:06] <PriceChild> https://launchpad.net/~johnc4510-cox & https://launchpad.net/~jpeddicord
[11:07] <jenda> jacob ain't around
[11:07] <PriceChild> he can wait then :)
[11:07] <Vorian> PriceChild, you think i'd want to screw a brother over?
[11:07] <Vorian> :)
[11:18] <ompaul> okay I have had an interesting evening
[11:18] <mc44> ooh tell us more, uncle ompaul
[11:19] <ompaul> !usn is Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about Ubuntu security updates.
[11:19] <ubotu> I'll remember that, ompaul
[11:19] <ompaul> so if someone says what about patches or levels and stuff
[11:20] <ompaul> PriceChild, Amaranth gnomefreak imbrandon nixternal Madpilot ^^ :-)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ?
[11:20] <ompaul> the usn factoid
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:20] <ompaul> ohh I have version  X etc
[11:21] <PriceChild> That's a cool page, how long has that been about?
[11:21] <ompaul> ages
[11:21] <ompaul> pitti was surprised that I did not know it
[11:22] <mc44> jenda: be sure to offload some stickers :P
[11:31] <nixternal> ubuntu.com/usn hey they have a US Navy page ;p
[11:31] <nixternal> thanks ompaul for the heads up on that one
[11:31] <ompaul> nixternal, np
[11:32] <mc44> it has pictures of ompaul in a sailors outfit at least
[11:32] <nixternal> scary, I just hope my sailor pics never make it online ;p
[11:33] <jenda> mc44: Since Im' meeting juliux too, I'll be offloading a few thousand :)
[11:33] <mc44> haha
[11:36] <jenda> And I'll be getting about a dozen shirts from him.
[12:18] <jenda> johnc4510 has been cloaked.
[12:19] <jussi01> jenda: PM?
[12:19] <jenda> sure :)