[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  Hmm.. You could do that.. also at the END of the installer theres a advanced button. Be sure to tell it the proper place for it to install the GRUB mbr to.
[13:27] <Maletor> Dr_Willis: I would be using alternate so that I could set up RAID5.
[13:27] <ectospasm> the quest to get Oracle 11g with SQL Developer installed led me to this:  http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/databaseappdev-vm-161299.html
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> RoyK:  i recall some grub2 docs.guides mentiongin how to tweak that. Personally I take the grub.cfg it generated and cut out the windows  parts i DO want and put in /etc/grub.d/40_custome   then disable the 30_osprober so it never tries to add windows back. It juzt iuses my Custome entries.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  no idea on that then. I dont use raids. and i rarely use the alt..  Why not just make a /boot/ partition thats not on the raid?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: i've used it a few times
[13:28] <Maletor> I guess that's the best idea. 3 partitions altogether 100MB /boot 10GB Swap and the rest for root
[13:28] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: did you get to recover what you lost?
[13:29] <Maletor> make the /boot raid1 and the swap raid1
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: it was a fat partition so yeah, some images were garbaged but otherwise it was ok
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  i go extreme with /boot/ i keep an iso file there of ubuntu. I then set up Grub2 to 'boot' in an emergancy :)
[13:29] <davidelv> are there any danger involved in using encrypted home?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  my /boot/ is 2gb :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: i'd have a 10Gb root and use the rest for /home
[13:29] <ectospasm> davidelv: if you lose your key (-;
[13:29] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: did you use it with Ubuntu Rescue Remix live cd or which way?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> davidelv:  dont lose your passkey... and it can be harder to recover if the system gets trashed
[13:29] <Maletor> so 4 partitions?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[13:30] <ubuntu> I'm trying to recover a Debian Sid system, but I'm forced to use a Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD, as it's the only one I have now, and for some reason I can't chroot. The broken system is amd64 but the CD is i386; might that be the reason?
[13:30] <DGM> Dr_Willis: thats a really nice idea
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: just used the livecd, installed foremost from the repo and used it
[13:30] <davidelv> thx.. I guess ill go with encrypted home on my uni laptop
[13:31] <roscogruen> could someone give me the commands to "mount /dev/sda*/ /mnt/mymount/" at start up?  i think it gets put in fstab file but not sure?
[13:31] <roscogruen> and not a link please
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> DGM:  yep. I make a generic 'rescue.iso' entry and a testing.iso entry. i can just take any ubuntu variant. rename theiso. put it in /boot/ and reboot and test it out
[13:31] <ectospasm> davidelv: I keep an encrypted directory, usually no need to encrype everything in /home/<username>  .... I ain't that paranoid
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | roscogruen
[13:31] <roscogruen> i've read 20 links
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  edit fstab.. have fun..
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  its not very complex
[13:32] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: why do 4 partitions? in case my root blows up?
[13:32] <ectospasm> roscogruen: I hate to say it, "man fstab"
[13:32] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/whatever /media/mountpoint  options 0 0
[13:32] <ectospasm> roscogruen: and "man mount"
[13:32] <_DGM_> or google for them :)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: i've never had a seperate /boot partition personally
[13:32] <davidelv> ectospasm: ok maybe not a bad idea, I have all my data in one folder anyways (dropbox)
[13:33] <davidelv> ectospasm: how do you encrypt one folder?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: seperate /home partition makes reinstalls easier and backups easier too
[13:33] <penn> hello
[13:33] <ectospasm> davidelv: ecryptfs will do it for you, automatically
[13:33] <penn> anyone
[13:33] <ectospasm> !ask | penn
[13:33] <Maletor> So you are saying now not to put the /boot on the usb stick
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> penn: you haven't asked a question.
[13:33] <davidelv> ahh easy :)
[13:34] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: If I set it up without a separate /home can I always set it up that way later?
[13:34] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: is it fstab that i put command to mount this folder?  i want to mount it so samba picks it up
[13:34] <ectospasm> davidelv: don't take my word for it, googel ubuntu ecryptfs to be sure
[13:34] <penn> Mast ask a question here?
[13:34] <ectospasm> roscogruen: /etc/fstab will let you say "mount /mount/point"
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: you can but its a bit messy, there are guides but if you intend to have one later you may as well implement it now
[13:34] <roscogruen> would a firewall keep samba from working?
[13:34] <ectospasm> roscogruen: yep
[13:34] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: i'm using live cd and did "sudo aptitude install foremost" but 0 packages has to be installed... so I think foremost is included with 10.04 version of Ubuntu Rescue Remix... anyway i added universe repo and tried to install again with the same result... then i used foremost like explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost but i get the message "Processing: stdin" and a "|" symbol on the line below and i don't think so
[13:34] <ectospasm> roscogruen: well, possibly
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> penn: this is ubuntu support so you are either here to help or you have a question
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: it's in the universe repo
[13:36] <jacks__> I get a half gnome-panel, don't understand why this isn't fixed yet
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  fstab is not commands.. its a database that mount uses.
[13:36] <ibrahim-kasem> Why compressing a file to a zip file doesnt change its size ?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  not all data is compressable
[13:36] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: I added this repo like explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding the Universe and Multiverse Repositories, do you think is ok this way?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: you don't need pipe characters in the use of foremost
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  what if yo  ZIp a Zip?
[13:36] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, like mp3 song for example ? how can i compress it
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: why not run: dpkg -l | grep fore   to se if it's installed?? This would save you a lot of time
[13:37] <ubun7u> is there any other location where apt repositories sources are kept?
[13:37] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, I will try to zip a zip okay
[13:37] <masterjail> ok, i'm going to see
[13:37] <ubun7u> except for /etc/apt/sources.lst
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:   Short answer.. You proberly dont.
[13:37] <roscogruen> ectospasm: so, sudo gedit /etc/fstab/
[13:37] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, probably what ?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  you are proberly not going to compress iot any further.
[13:37] <ubun7u> ?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ubun7u: you can also have list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:38] <philinux> ectospasm: you should use gksudo with gui apps like gedit
[13:38] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, yes you can zip it only once
[13:38] <ubun7u> k
[13:38] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, so is there anything that I can do ?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  and if you gain no compression.. then what have you gained...
[13:38] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: and ectospasm i've got fstab up
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  reencode it.. if you wanted to. I dont see the point in even trying.
[13:38] <itsux2bu> ibrahim-kasem, i think you will find that zipping a mp3 files won't save any hard drive space
[13:39] <ubun7u> yes
[13:39] <teliti> Hello. I do have a netbook with a bcm4315 chipset. normally the hardware-driver-installer shows me two drivers: b24 and sta. But this install I only see the sta driver. How do I get the b24 driver? In synaptic I only could find the fwcutter for the b24 driver ...?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  read the entries.. learn the layout.. cut/paste and edit to make new entries. :)
[13:39] <ibrahim-kasem> itsux2bu, i want to zip it and email it but like you said the space is still the same
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim-kasem:  sso theres no point in zipping it then.
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> teliti:  does the sta driver not work?
[13:40] <ibrahim-kasem> Dr_Willis, how can i rencode it please ?
[13:40] <itsux2bu> only reason to zip is if you have several you want to send as a group
[13:40] <teliti> No, sadly not
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> teliti:  i had an odd laptop. that used the sta driver.. but the silly sta module wouldent autoload.. not sure why that was
[13:41] <teliti> It is strange, I always have to install the b24 driver first, after it the sta driver - then it works *g*
[13:41] <itsux2bu> ibrahim-kasem, re-encode an mp3 file?
[13:41] <teliti> only b24 does not work too *g* and only sta the same result hehe
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> teliti:  yea. I had similer issues.. but that laptop is now gone. :)
[13:41] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: I aborted the execution i was doing and got a file named audit.txt (0 bytes) and a lot of directories (named avi, bmp, dll, doc ...) ... I did "dpkg -l | grep fore" and yes, foremost is installed... do you recommend me i try again or what? :S
[13:41] <sacarlson> teliti: I'm not sure this is what you need it's one digit off of your broadcom but I think they have the solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/449268
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> masterjail: yes, let it run dude, it'll take HOURS if you are working on a platter based drive
[13:42] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: are you saying i should understand /etc/fstab or learn it then edit it?  not possible.  and i don't want to do another reinstall b/c i "used my judgement."
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> roscogruen:  you dont want to learn a fundamental aspect of linux?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis>  fstab is rather straight forwar4d in its layout. and configuration
[13:43] <masterjail> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll try again...
[13:43] <ectospasm> philinux: why are you telling me?  I live dangerously and run vim in a sudo -i shell (-;<
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> There used to be some gui tool for altering the fstab.. but i forget where it even was at.  I do recall it causing more damage then manually editing the fstab
[13:44] <niteye> are there any MSN clients that support the groups feature?, aMSN shows it as a feature on their site but i tried the latest version and it isn't in there
[13:44] <tangentcollision> no data recovered on terrabyte harddrive *anhero*
[13:44] <ectospasm> roscogruen: /etc/fstab isn't difficult.  It's basically a table, with tab-separated fields.
[13:45] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis: i suffered severe brain damage in 2007.  logical thought is very hard anymore
[13:46] <teliti> thx for helping both of you :-)
[13:46] <tyrus> sorry MichaelH
[13:47] <tyrus> i did try the link but in my installation i dont have the said file
[13:47] <adrix> hi
[13:48] <adrix> jest tu ktoś ??
[13:48] <bazhang> !pl
[13:48] <Schmorgluck> yeah, that would be better
[13:48] <adrix> :p
[13:49] <_DGM_> durka
[13:49] <Gulah> hi ppl
[13:49] <ibrahim-kasem_> Gulah, hi
[13:49] <Gulah> I have a problem with booting my computer, can someone help me
[13:49] <Schmorgluck> I'm starting to consider reverting back to Karmic
[13:50] <Gulah> i-ve searched the net but I can-t find a solution
[13:50] <Schmorgluck> describe
[13:50] <Gulah> i get a read error when i boot my pc
[13:50] <Gulah> I also have windows installed
[13:51] <Gulah> "read error"
[13:51] <Gulah> i-m using my computer trough a live-usb
[13:51] <KomiaPoika> hi
[13:51] <KomiaPoika> where is xorg.conf in ubuntu 10.04?
[13:52] <mgt_90> KomiaPoika: There isn't one.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, it doesn't exist unless you generate one
[13:53] <Schmorgluck> KomiaPoika, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428788
[13:53] <tyrus> I dont understand how a simple update can get rid of sound on lucid lynx
[13:53] <tyrus> if i may ask, should i be running pulseaudio or alsa
[13:53] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[13:53] <tyrus> because none of them seem to solve my issues
[13:53] <Schmorgluck> I feel your pain, tyrus
[13:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Can the alternate CD be used to upgrade any previous installation to the newest, or does it only work with the last previous release only or something?
[13:54] <KomiaPoika> thanks
[13:54] <Gulah> can someone help me_
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> tyrus: pulseaudio runs notop of alsa
[13:54] <tyrus> thanks Schmorgluck
[13:54] <Schmorgluck> I personally am rid of material acceleration since I upgraded to Lucid
[13:54] <tyrus> so how do i resolve this guys?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGuy2009:  I think you can do LTS => LTS  or you have to go from one release to the next... not  'any' to the latest.
[13:54] <tyrus> i have spent all night tweaking with configs and its just a pain
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> tyrus: could try the latest alsa from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[13:55] <tyrus> hmmm
[13:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Dr_Willis: Ok I just wanted to check. Thanks.
[13:55] <tyrus> lemme give it a shot ActionParsnip
[13:55] <AcePreshaw> hey i wod likm to report an bug wiw 10.04 my pc is an QC-61
[13:56] <_DGM_> AcePreshaw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> AcePreshaw: ubuntu-bug packagename
[13:56] <AcePreshaw> GOMNE
[13:57] <AcePreshaw> is GONME
[13:57] <_DGM_> gomne? XD
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> i think it needs tobe a bit narrowerd down more then just 'a bug in gnome'
[13:57] <AcePreshaw> yea
[13:58] <Schmorgluck> so, since I upgraded to Lucid, I have no more access to material acceleration
[13:58] <Schmorgluck> it's been months, now
[13:58] <AcePreshaw> is kiled my pc
[13:58] <bazhang> !work | AcePreshaw
[13:59] <Schmorgluck> I told myself it would be fixed eventually, but it's starting to feel a bit long
[13:59] <AcePreshaw> is an ded Gome
[13:59] <_DGM_> my touchscreen has been borked for over a year :P i'm not holding my breath tbh
[14:00] <kish> mgt_90, found a way to remove everything apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installed.
[14:00] <bazhang> AcePreshaw, without some details there is not any help forthcoming
[14:00] <kish> maybe i should share the knowledge
[14:00] <_DGM_> a gnome killed his pc apparently
[14:00] <kish> heh
[14:00] <kish> a gnome bastard
[14:00] <bazhang> kish, watch the language
[14:00] <kish> heh
[14:00] <Schmorgluck> I've found a bug report on launchpad that seemed to be exactly the one I had, but on further checking my symptoms are not exactly the same
[14:00] <_DGM_> heh indeed
[14:01] <Schmorgluck> I'm not sure it's sufficiently different to justify a new bug report
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Schmorgluck: log your bug, if its a duplicate it will be marked as on
[14:02] <Schmorgluck> is there a way to link to the other bug, mentioning they are possibly related?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> *one
[14:02] <AcePreshaw> Installed 10.04 will not load Gnome desktop
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Schmorgluck: not sure, i'd ask in #launchpad
[14:02] <Schmorgluck> good idea
[14:02] <_DGM_> ugh dhcp and ssh dont like eachother xD it keeps telling me the host has changed
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> AcePreshaw: ok, what happens when you log in?
[14:03] <AcePreshaw> is the wallpaer
[14:03] <AcePreshaw> an is dos not load
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> AcePreshaw: if you press ALT+F2 can you run: nautilus
[14:03] <_DGM_> does anybody know a proper way with compiz to have a different background for each workspace? i found a few things that makes me install crap but the desktop cube was ment to support it as i thought.. but it doesnt
[14:04] <bazhang> _DGM_, possible if I recall, the guys in #compiz were talking about it
[14:04] <AcePreshaw> my dads m8 did for me i wanting to bug report it
[14:05] <TiK> question: how do I remove keyrights.. I set skype to boot on startup and got a keyring and have no idea what the password is
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> AcePreshaw:  you need tobe a little more clear. WHat is your native language also? What version of Ubuntu are you using and whats your video card?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  You want to remove the users keyring/settings and password? theres a file in the home dir.. but i cant recall where its at.
[14:07] <_DGM_> TiK: you set up the keyring password the first time you entered any kind of password and told ubuntu to save it
[14:07] <_DGM_> TiK: for example with wireless lan
[14:07] <TiK> DGM: I never have
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  someone did. :)
[14:07] <_DGM_> it didn't magicly password itself
[14:07] <TiK> it new to me today
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  i find i often just see the dialog and automatically enter my password (thus setting it the first time) out of habbit
[14:08] <TiK> I jsut enternet in password they were wrong so i hit cancle and got in
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[14:08] <_DGM_> i havent set one at all on my laptop.. its annoying if you have wlan
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> that will reset the keyring.
[14:08] <noob_> I accidently removed the icon for the gnome network manager from the panal, how do I add it to the panal again?
[14:08] <TiK> Dr_Willis: that won
[14:08] <TiK> t mess up anything?
[14:08] <TiK> noob: easy\
[14:08] <_DGM_> TiK: no.. it will "forget" all your saved passwords
[14:08] <TiK> !resetpanels
[14:09] <ursus_> Hello, I would like to use gnomecatalog, but when trying to import from disk, I got error message: "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_icon'
[14:09] <ursus_> "
[14:09] <ursus_> How could I solve this?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  it erases all saved passwords and stuff stored in the keyring
[14:09] <TiK> Dr_Willis: what about my automatic login
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: is there a bug logged for it?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  that has nothing to do with the keyring
[14:09] <tyrus>  ActionParsnip done
[14:09] <TiK> oh ok
[14:09] <tyrus> do i need to do a reboot
[14:09] <tyrus> ?
[14:10] <tyrus> or just restarting pulseaudio
[14:10] <tyrus> ?
[14:10] <noob_> Tik: I tried that in the terminal but nothing happened
[14:10] <ursus_> ActionParsnip, I see this message when I start the program from terminel
[14:10] <TiK> noob: uhm
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: is there a bug logged for it in launchpad?
[14:10] <TiK> noob: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[14:10] <ursus_> I didn't see it.
[14:11] <tangentcollision> okay, so imagine if would a posh country club, where the rich get high and the poor get snubbed, and I don't have a mouse because some junkie stole it, how would I go about my work, like, how would I go about getting mousekeys turned on?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: http://bugs.launchpad.net
[14:11] <BluesKaj> _DGM_, delete the lines in ~/.ssh/known_hosts . then ssh into the pc you want to connect and you will be asked if you want a new one, choose yes and you will connect
[14:11] <_DGM_> BluesKaj: thanks but yea i know :) its just annoying to do that every day :P
[14:11] <tangentcollision> I'm asking a serious question
[14:12] <tangentcollision> I don't have a mouse right now, I need mouse keys
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: then ASK a serious question, instead of talking about junkies
[14:12] <tangentcollision> how do I enable it
[14:12] <BluesKaj> _DGM_, then you must be doin a lot of clean installs ")
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: what is your question
[14:12] <tangentcollision> how do I enable it
[14:12] <tangentcollision> mouse keys
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: enable what
[14:12] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, Hi there, can you help with gnome-ppp please I always get the message modem is not responding
[14:12] <ikonia> tangentcollision: what are mouse keys
[14:12] <ursus_> ActionParsnip, no, there isn't
[14:12] <tangentcollision> oh god, really?
[14:12] <_DGM_> BluesKaj: i've done a bunch but its mostly the ip changing :P
[14:13] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: I can certainly try, I'm a little rusty, what's up
[14:13] <iflema> tangentcollision hold shift and press num lock
[14:13] <noob_> TiK: cheers for that
[14:13] <tangentcollision> mousekeys, it's an accessability feature for just such an occasion
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> theres a way to use the numpad as a mouse.. but i cant recall the combo to enable it
[14:13] <tangentcollision> iflema: thank you
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> whats the click keys then ? :)
[14:13] <tangentcollision> christ, it's like you can't have a slight hint of humor
[14:13] <_DGM_> you either buy a mouse or you work in the console
[14:13] <BluesKaj> _DGM_, ever considerd a static IP in the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:13] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: you mean OSK?
[14:14] <tangentcollision> I haven't found the OSK yet
[14:14] <_DGM_> _DGM_: ye maybe i should. I have on my servers but not on the desktops
[14:14] <bazhang> tangentcollision, this is not the joke channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[14:14] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, I have installed the modem driver on my lucid 10.04 but when i press on connect I get a message saying modem is not responding
[14:14] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: what type of modem is it ?
[14:14] <JameZ7> can someone tell me the name of the the nice menu to make ubuntu like the Mac
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm  shift + numlock - lets you move pointer with the numpad. but im not sure how you r and l click
[14:14] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, in my laptop modem hp dv6 1045ee
[14:14] <JameZ7> its like picture icons
[14:14] <bazhang> JameZ7, avant window navigator?
[14:15] <abhinav> JameZ7: cairo-dock ?
[14:15] <TiK> hmmm
[14:15] <iflema> Dr_Willis 5 is l 44click
[14:15] <TiK> i don't like this keyring bs
[14:15] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, this is the lspci out put http://pastebin.com/4iyyAjg1
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ursus_: log a new one then to get it resolved, sounds like a bug to me
[14:15] <_eXeCuTeR> how can i tell ubuntu to open .C files with geany by default? properties of single file doesn't work
[14:15] <iflema> Dr_Willis ins rclick =)
[14:15] <sinurge> when i used jaunty it had a different start up like a progress bar if i need to get that for lucid or maverick how do i get it donw
[14:15] <TiK> also: I had no defual.keyright file
[14:16] <vegombrei> hi i wanna know whats the difference between ubuntu for netbook and desktop? can i install the desktop version on my sont vaio?
[14:16] <ursus_> ActionParsnip, thankst
[14:16] <ibrahim-kasem__> vegombrei, download the desktop edition
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> iflema:  yea sort of thing not a good idea to be testing while in a irc window. :) i almost cut/pasted  40 lines
[14:16] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: I actually can't see a modem in that hardware list, I'm reading on the web that the modem is part of the HD audio controller that does not have linux support
[14:17] <tangentcollision> Dr_Willis: no joking in this channel
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  in th forum thread i saw.. some one else said that
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> tangentcollision:  i made a joke? never noticed..
[14:17] <bazhang> tangentcollision, let it go
[14:17] <vegombrei> ibrahim-ka is it that the netbook edition is specially designed for laptops only?
[14:18] <lamalex> Can anyone help me access my lucid encrypted home from my maverick partition?
[14:18] <aeon-ltd> vegombrei: yes, thet are the same except the easy trackpad friendly interface on the netbook version
[14:18] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, but linmodems gave me a link to a file and when i use this command in the terminal "sudo agrsm-test" i get a message telling me that modem is detected i will pastebinit
[14:18] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: please do, I'm only going by what I read on the internet, I've got no experience with this actual modem
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> vegombrei:  the main differance is teh default interface.
[14:19] <Cornwall> Hi, My friend has a macbook pro. Out of the box, two finger right-click worked fine but I seem to have messed it up. I don't know what package is affected: can I dpkg-reconfigure something? I've tried reconfiguring xorg synaptics and deleting the xorg.conf file but I can't seem to get it to work.
[14:19] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, please visit this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/481437/
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> vegombrei:  ive used normal versions on netbooks.. and netvook versions on desktop/laptops.  You canhave  the normal ubuntu desktop and netbook interfaces on both if you wanted.
[14:19] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: let me have a read
[14:19] <vegombrei> brb
[14:20] <Cornwall> to add, two-finger tapping works as a right click and scrolling still works
[14:20] <andrew_708476> Is there anyone good with using Ubuntu in here
[14:20] <TiK> Dr_Willis: the password was my shell login.. weird
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  be a bit more exacting in your questions
[14:20] <bazhang> andrew_708476, ask a question
[14:20] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: look at lines 18 - 20 on that paste, that's the key
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  as i mentioned - that dialog pops up and people often just see the term password.. and enter their login password autmatically setting the thing to be their normal password
[14:21] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, I have to give permission  to /dev/ttySAGR' ?
[14:22] <rookfood> does the alt+f1 shortcut to the applications menu work for others in 10.04? it doesn't seem to be working for me
[14:22] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: it's not permission, it's because the module can't be inserted
[14:22] <andrew_708476> can someone do something for me I have tryed myself so manny times but everytime I have tryed it has not downloaded.  If someone can try and download Tor for me for Ubuntu
[14:22] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, and can i fix that please ?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  there was a Tor wiki page i followed ages ago that worked.. but how are you trying todownload tor?
[14:23] <Cornwall> rookfood: Do you have compiz enabled? It might need specifying
[14:23] <TiK> Dr_Willis: strange eh
[14:23] <ikonia> ibrahim-kasem__: I'm not sure, depends why it can't be inserted
[14:23] <Cornwall> rookfood: the settings manager should have "gnome integration" ticked
[14:23] <andrew_708476> http://www.torproject.org/download-unix.html.en
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  happens to me all the time. :)
[14:23] <andrew_708476> on that web page
[14:24] <TiK> Dr_Willis: no big deal now that I know the password
[14:24] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor andrew_708476
[14:24] <ibrahim-kasem__> ikonia, thank you very much I will contact linmodems and see what i can do
[14:24] <andrew_708476> thanks
[14:24] <rookfood> Cornwall: actually, this reminds me that i'm using  xfwm4 and its compositor. i imagine i'll need to find a solution through that.
[14:25] <bazhang> andrew_708476, welcome
[14:25] <Cornwall> rookfood: Oh, well my xfce experience is much less so than Gnomes :). Sorry!
[14:25] <andrew_708476> nope it wont download
[14:25] <rookfood> Cornwall: np! thanks a lot for helping me to clarify the nature of my issue.
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  you added the repo line to your surces.list ? and updated the listing? -->  deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main
[14:26] <andrew_708476> no
[14:26] <bazhang> andrew_708476, you have to add the repo
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  then you need to reread and follow the directions
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> in /etc/apt/sources.list add line  at bottom ---> deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> If you are using 10.04 that is...
[14:27] <andrew_708476> but wihich one should I download
[14:27] <andrew_708476> for Ubuntu
[14:27] <bazhang> andrew_708476, read the link please
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  you add the line to the repos listing file.. Update the listing.. then sudo apt-get install tor
[14:28] <Ardin> so, looking into getting a new laptop. which is better on ubuntu, intel graphics or new ati graphics.
[14:28] <bazhang> andrew_708476, what version of Ubuntu; the instructions are quite clear
[14:28] <IdleOne> andrew_708476: adding deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org lucid main to your /etc/sources.list is what tells ubuntu where to go and download the package, in this case the tor package.
[14:29] <KomiaPoika> which port in /dev is the serial port?
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> KomiaPoika:  /dev/ttyS# where # is often 1 through 4
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> unless you got other specia serial devices
[14:30] <blazer1980> Why does the gnome look on the login screen change when you do "Switch user" in Ubuntu 10.4?
[14:30] <andrew_708476> you go to download it and it takes you to another page and the repeats it over and over again
[14:30] <bazhang> andrew_708476, did you check the link?
[14:30] <andrew_708476> yes
[14:30] <logan_wolf> hey guys
[14:30] <logan_wolf> I have a problem
[14:30] <bazhang> andrew_708476, several people have already told you exactly what to do
[14:31] <logan_wolf> I am running lucid on my box
[14:31] <logan_wolf> and I am not able to mount my externat drive
[14:31] <logan_wolf> what could be the issue
[14:31] <logan_wolf> ???
[14:31] <andrew_708476> well I have Schizophrenia and sometimes need a bit more help
[14:32] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor andrew_708476
[14:32] <bazhang> andrew_708476, take your time and read that link
[14:32] <KomiaPoika> Dr_Willis: thx
[14:33] <blazer1980> Why does the gnome look on the login screen change when you do "Switch user" in Ubuntu 10.4?
[14:33] <TiK> logan_wolf: it doesnt auto mount?
[14:33] <oliver_> i installed vlc 1.1.3 today and i cannot use opengl so it's not so good quality
[14:33] <oliver_> help
[14:33] <bazhang> oliver_, installed from where and how
[14:33] <logan_wolf> TiK, No man
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  you DONT directly download tor from that site.. You enable the repository and use teh package manager to install it.
[14:33] <TiK> oliver_: opengl has to be supporter by your videocard
[14:34] <logan_wolf> TiK, there is no change
[14:34] <TiK> logan_wolf: interesting...
[14:34] <oliver_> TIK: in vlc 1.0 it's work
[14:34] <logan_wolf> TiK, I think the drive is dead
[14:34] <andrew_708476> this is the link it take me to http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en but it keeps on go and repeating its self again and again
[14:34] <bazhang> oliver_, and you installed it from where? how?
[14:34] <logan_wolf> TiK, what do you suggest
[14:34] <bazhang> andrew_708476, not that link
[14:34] <oliver_> bazhang: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vlc-1-1-3-in-ubuntu-10-049-10.html
[14:34] <TiK> logan_wolf: try maually mounting it mount -t ntfs /dev/sd?? /media/external
[14:35] <bazhang> oliver_, from source? PPA? where
[14:35] <TiK> i dunno which sd it is
[14:35] <oliver_> bazhang: PPA
[14:35] <logan_wolf> TiK, hmmm I think that could be an option
[14:36] <bazhang> oliver_, you contacted the PPA maintainer? those are totally at your own risk, you realize
[14:36] <bazhang> oliver_, if 1.0 worked why go outside normal package management?
[14:37] <Skaag> Hello! :)
[14:37] <aeon-ltd> hi
[14:37] <blazer1980> Hello, can anyone please help me?
[14:37] <blazer1980> Why does the gnome look on the login screen change when you do "Switch user" in Ubuntu 10.4?
[14:37] <aeon-ltd> blazer1980: different prefs for each user
[14:37] <oliver_> bazhang: vlc 1.1.3 can use the GPU
[14:38] <bazhang> oliver_, you said it did not work.
[14:38] <blazer1980> aeon-ltd: I only have one user setup
[14:38] <bazhang> oliver_, try to contact the PPA maintainer
[14:38] <andrew_708476> bazhang  sorry if I ask to much but can you get the web address on the actual page that you can download on please
[14:38] <Oer> oliver, vlc 1.1.3 is not suitable for kernel < 2.6.34 ??
[14:38] <lds> what ppa?
[14:38] <oliver_> bazhang: alright, thx :)
[14:38] <bazhang> andrew_708476, its not a web download page
[14:38] <rotham> How can I create a script that will reinstall all of the software I want after I reformat  and upgrade to 10.x?
[14:39] <rotham> or what can I do to achieve the same effect...?
[14:39] <blazer1980> aeon-ltd: can I make it the same look as when I login when the computer boots?
[14:39] <bazhang> !clone | rotham
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> Tor install notes --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/481446/
[14:39] <rotham> o snap awesome
[14:39] <rotham> !automate
[14:39] <andrew_708476> I've got Tor on windows and I want to put it on Ubuntu
[14:39] <rotham> o sorry for doing that in channel
[14:39] <BluesKaj> rotham, why reformat, whynot just upgrade ?
[14:39] <aeon-ltd> blazer1980: not sure but it should be in a config file somewhere, prob in /etc/gdm
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  so follow the directions at the page.. and check out the notes i just posted
[14:40] <bazhang> andrew_708476, add the repos to your sources.list as described in the link
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476: Tor install notes --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/481446/
[14:40] <ouyes> hi all when I was playing a move ,there was a warn saying "you are using an old version of mplayer ......",  what is that? how to update to the lastest one?
[14:40] <ouyes> movie
[14:40] <rotham> i have ubuntu installed inside windows
[14:40] <rotham> and the windows install is totally broken
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  proberly not worth worrying about
[14:40] <rotham> i have to reformat anyway
[14:40] <andrew_708476> whats the sources list
[14:40] <Vigo_> rotham: clone is the answer, I also suggest a backup before making any changes that are system wide or affect the kernel.
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> andrew_708476:  it may be time to learn some ubuntu basics befor you go messing with TOR.
[14:41] <bazhang> andrew_708476, did you read the notes link just given to you?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> !manual | andrew_708476
[14:41] <blazer1980> aeon-ltd: thanks. let me try that
[14:41] <bazhang> andrew_708476, reading the provided links is a must
[14:41] <ouyes> Dr_Willis, maybe
[14:41] <rotham> yeah... im reformatting the whole system
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  i dont think i made any mistakes in the notes. :)  i may of missed a comment # :P
[14:42] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, if he does not read the notes, not sure how he will progress this
[14:42] <Vigo_> rotham: *nix only or a dual boot?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !who | rotham
[14:42] <bazhang> or the other links even
[14:42] <GrimmVarg> hey guys, any lucky baserds who have managed to get this gpu working under ubuntu ? A0751h-52Bk
[14:42] <bazhang> GrimmVarg, language please
[14:42] <mikebeecham_> hi guys...does anyone know what font is used for "Ubuntu - Linux for Human beings"?
[14:42] <mikebeecham_> or is there an art channel?
[14:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-artwork
[14:43] <ikonia> mikebeecham_: #ubuntu-artwork maybe ?
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham_:  there an Ubuntu font :) in the works
[14:43] <lds> where are you from
[14:43] <rotham> Vigo_ : I dunno... dual boot would be cool but Ive never done it and need to do something fast.. bunch of deadlines coming up
[14:43] <GrimmVarg> bazhang: I respectfully ignore your request
[14:43] <rotham> Vigo_  How hard is it to setup dual boot
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !dualboot  | rotham
[14:43] <Vigo_> rotham: Is easy'ish
[14:44] <IdleOne> GrimmVarg: ignoring the request to watch your language is not advisable
[14:44] <Vigo_> !dual boot | rotham
[14:44] <rotham> will photoshop run with Wine?
[14:44] <Vigo_> !dualboot | rotham
[14:44] <rotham> cs4
[14:44] <ibrahim-kasem__> Vigo_, BluesKajthe bot is having a nap hahaha
[14:44] <GrimmVarg> i said, basterd.  Since I can't unmount /var I've booted into the Live CD. Where do I proceed from here?
[14:45] <tyrus> ok guys am back
[14:46] <mikebeecham_> lds, who? me?
[14:46] <tyrus> installed the ppa unstable version of pulseaudio
[14:46] <tyrus> but there is still no sound
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: the PPA version is not supported here
[14:46] <tyrus> why is it so difficult to get sound on ubuntu in this day and age
[14:46] <tyrus> well someone suggested i try it
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: you need to make sure you have a card that is well supported it
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: if I tell you to jump off a bridge would you do it ?
[14:46] <ikonia> tyrus: need to make sure you verify the instructions you are doing
[14:47] <tyrus> :(
[14:47] <tyrus> no ikonia i wont
[14:47] <creat0r>  There is something similar to dreamweaver in linux (ubuntu)?
[14:47] <tyrus> here are my details
[14:47] <tyrus> ikonia, am running lucid lynx
[14:47] <bazhang> creat0r, aptana studio
[14:47] <tyrus> on a hp 620
[14:47] <ikonia> creat0r: web dev tools (in my view) are lacking in Linux in general, there are some though
[14:47] <TiK> question
[14:47] <tyrus> i had sound until yesterday when i run an update which included a kernel upgrade
[14:48] <tyrus> upon reboot no sound :(
[14:48] <ikonia> tyrus: ok, so the correct thing to do would be log a bug against that kernel upgrade
[14:48] <TiK> question: how do  play MMS1 and MMS2 videos in ubuntu?
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> reboot back to the old kernel?
[14:48] <ikonia> tyrus: you've voided the debugging using PPA's
[14:48] <Vigo_> creat0r: There are many many programs that are *nix that work fine.
[14:48] <tyrus> hmm.....
[14:49] <tyrus> spilt milk it looks like it...though i must admit even when i did a fresh installation of the same
[14:49] <ubuntu> how do i install ati drivers at xcrash? i am in live system now, but my new ubuntu install crashes when i reboot
[14:49] <tyrus> i had to really struggle to get sound up and running
[14:49] <tyrus> which wasnt the case previously
[14:49] <creat0r> Vigo: like what give just 3 ? :S
[14:49] <ikonia> tyrus: it all depends on how well your hardware is supported by linux
[14:49] <ikonia> tyrus: that's the underlying truth of most base issues
[14:50] <tyrus> ikonia:are you saying HP isnt ideally supported by ubuntu?
[14:50] <ubuntu> my ati video card crashes at boot. live system works fine. can someone help me get this going?
[14:50] <ikonia> tyrus: HP isn't a hardware model, check the sound card model/make/chipset
[14:50] <Vigo_> creat0r: http://directory.fsf.org/category/web/ :> alot more than three.
[14:51] <ubuntu> ati hardware help please
[14:51] <tyrus> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[14:51] <_ting_> Hi
[14:51] <tyrus> ikonia thats the soundcard as per lspci -vv
[14:51] <ikonia> !ati | ubuntu
[14:51] <Maletor> How do I chroot from a live cd to my computer? sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 just hangs.....
[14:51] <ikonia> tyrus: intel devices are normally quite well supported, some the HD audio devices aren't properly in the kernel yet though
[14:51] <ubuntu> ikonia, that doesnt help. ive been there
[14:52] <ikonia> ubuntu: you didn't ask a question so I can't give better help
[14:52] <ubuntu> i did
[14:52] <nobuy> if you buy a intel cpu with a built-in gpu, you will get screwed too
[14:52] <ubuntu> ikonia, i did, noone was paying attention
[14:52] <tyrus> ikonia:thats the thing all am asking how to get basic sound on this machine
[14:52] <nobuy> the kernel is too old
[14:52] <ikonia> ubuntu: you just said "ati help"
[14:52] <ikonia> nobuy: no you won't
[14:52] <ubuntu> ikonia, look above that
[14:52] <nobuy> hahaha
[14:52] <_ting_> could anyone help me? I had the ubuntu 9.04 and my hdmi audio was working properlly but a few weeks ago i updated my system to the ubuntu 10, and now i dont know how to make my hdmi audio working
[14:52] <tyrus> _ting_ am also having the same issue here
[14:53] <_ting_> i tried to follow several solution but none of them work for me
[14:53] <tyrus> though mine involves basic sound
[14:53] <ikonia> tyrus: I fully understand what you're saying, but you need to do a little research on the card make/model and it's support
[14:53] <ikonia> tyrus: the fact that you've had it working is a very good sign
[14:53] <TiK> question: how do  play MMS1 and MMS2 videos in ubuntu?
[14:53] <dr0id> a VPS with 386mb memory, is that cool enough to support lots of traffic, and DB operations?
[14:53] <tyrus> ikonia:thats the point...unless in between the update something changed
[14:53] <ikonia> dr0id: thats just a ram figure, that means nothing
[14:53] <ikonia> tyrus: it does change - that's what a new kernel is, a change
[14:53] <u8untu> Dr_Willis i tried everything..but i can`t boot from usb .. and i dont have any cd..cuz the burning wizard has broke the cd`s..how could i install ubuntu instead of windows
[14:53] <dr0id> ikonia: I see..
[14:53] <_ting_> tyrus, any luck ?
[14:53] <dr0id> how do I select a good VPS for me then ?
[14:53] <rotham> hey... im trying to install Wine and when it tries to setup the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer (3.0)" I get "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name." message... whats this about?
[14:53] <tyrus> none _ting_
[14:54] <ubuntu> ati problem: boots and runs x fine in live system, but does not run with me booting off of my hard drive. fglrx is not loaded is the error. help please
[14:54] <dr0id> my website will have lots of traffc, and DB operations...
[14:54] <ikonia> dr0id: you work out what resources is needed to suport your requirements, then buy the kit that is needed
[14:54] <dr0id> and quite a few intense cron jobs
[14:54] <tyrus> lemme run and do some research on this particular image and see if anyone else is whining as loudly as I am :)
[14:54] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm having a little look myself while talking to you
[14:54] <tyrus> thanks ikonia for your time...should be back in a while with some findings....hopefully
[14:54] <logan_wolf> can anyone tell me how would i recognize which entry is for my pen drive under /dev
[14:55] <ikonia> tyrus: check back later, I'm just doing a little research too
[14:55] <tortoise7> booting from the burned cd, i get the welcome screen, language, then the try without installing, install, check disc etc,,,,,,, no install and install choices just hang.
[14:55] <tyrus> thanks ikonia
[14:55] <_ting_> I run the aslamixer and look there for the sourd cards, i see the HDA Nvdia, but when i try to select it, i got this msg: "This sound device does not have any controls"
[14:56] <u8untu> so i can`t install Ubuntu instead of Windows..i got this error: "no default or ui configuration directive found" .. i tried to make a boot cd and usb stick
[14:56] <andrew_708476> has anyone got ubuntu on there system that they have put tor on it
[14:56] <ubuntu> ati problem: boots and runs x fine in live system, but does not run with me booting off of my hard drive. fglrx is not loaded is the error. help please
[14:57] <bazhang> andrew_708476, using those links given to you? you read them all , correct?
[14:57] <tortoise7> should the *amd64.iso actaully burn as *i386.iso?
[14:57] <Vigo_> andrew_708476: Yes I have, my ISP does not support it or something, am still working on that.
[14:58] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor andrew_708476
[14:58] <andrew_708476> yes I've read that
[14:58] <bazhang> andrew_708476, and added the repos?
[14:58] <ikonia> andrew_708476: ok, so what's the issue
[14:58] <u8untu> so i can`t install Ubuntu instead of Windows..i got this error: "no default or ui configuration directive found" .. i tried to make a boot cd and usb stick
[14:58] <alex_45> hello ubuntu :)
[14:58] <bazhang> tortoise7, no, one is 64bit the other is 32bit
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  Configuration lines consist of an initial keyword followed by a
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  list of values, all separated by whitespace (any number of spaces
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  or tabs). For example,
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  actionsfile default.action
[14:59] <FloodBot3> andrew_708476: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #
[14:59] <andrew_708476> #  Indicates that the actionsfile is named 'default.action'.
[14:59] <ustudionoob> Would this be the appropriate channel to ask how I can tell if my firewire card is being recognized?
[14:59] <nobuy> lspci
[14:59] <TiK> hmmmm
[14:59] <Mike> ok i need some big help here please
[14:59] <Vigo_> !pastebin | andrew_708476
[14:59] <TiK> question: how do  play MMS1 and MMS2 videos in ubuntu?
[14:59] <Guest20682> i had ubuntu and windows installed
[15:00] <Guest20682> then i installed windows 7
[15:00] <Guest20682> no more linux boot mbr
[15:00] <ikonia> !grub2 > Guest20682
[15:00] <dr0id> can you guys recommend me some good and cheap hosts?
[15:00] <Vigo_> !grub
[15:00] <Guest20682> and i tried to fix it and i made it all woese
[15:00] <nobuy> in fact, ubuntu 10.04 lts can detect all components of my new rig. i am so lucky.
[15:00] <tortoise7> bazbang: yes, the point is, I d/l the amd64 iso.... burned it... the result is a i386.iso..... thoughts on how this happened?
[15:00] <ikonia> Guest20682: check the link in the pm from ubottu
[15:01] <alex_45> does someon know how i configure my touchpad (eee pc) with lucid? i want it to be disabled when im typing, and the Fn-Key not work
[15:01] <frankely> how can i locate my partitions ?
[15:01] <bazhang> tortoise7, thats not possible
[15:01] <frankely> how can i locate my hard disk partitions ?
[15:01] <Guest20682> what i need to know is i am trying to fix it by editiiung the partition
[15:01] <Vigo_> !grub | Guest20682
[15:01] <Guest20682> i think in eed to know the mount point
[15:01] <bazhang> Guest20682, grub2 wiki is what you need to check
[15:02] <ikonia> Guest20682: READ the url ubottu sent you
[15:02] <bazhang> Vigo_, grub2 not grub
[15:02] <nobuy> hehe
[15:02] <bazhang> nobuy, ??
[15:02] <Vigo_> Okee dokee
[15:02] <nobuy> it's a trap!
[15:02] <bazhang> nobuy, stop that
[15:02] <ikonia> nobuy: no it's not
[15:02] <Guest20682> hmm ok
[15:02] <fidelix> What are the best Download Managers in your opinion?
[15:02] <ikonia> nobuy: stop giving out missleading information
[15:02] <Guest20682> right now i can not even boot the system
[15:03] <ikonia> Guest20682: read the URL from ubottu
[15:03] <Guest20682> just tried to do something different
[15:03] <Vigo_> Guest20682: Have you tried a LiveCD?
[15:03] <Guest20682> i had tirdd that and it did not work
[15:03] <Guest20682> maybe there was an issie and need to start this all over
[15:03] <ikonia> Guest20682: READ the url ubottu sent you
[15:03] <alex_45> does someone know how i configure my touchpad (eee pc) with lucid? i want it to be disabled when im typing, and the Fn-Key of course does not work
[15:04] <Guest20682> ok well what can i loose by trying this all over again
[15:04] <Vigo_> Guest20682: What the bot said is the answer, I think.
[15:04] <Guest20682> yet again
[15:04] <erUSUL> !eeepc
[15:04] <alex_45> meh, thanks
[15:04] <spazmi> why do I get the following errors on my Torrentflux installation? - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/554kXGK9
[15:04] <nobuy> iirc, eeepc and thinkpad have their own sites
[15:04] <tyrus> ikonia any luck?
[15:04] <ikonia> tyrus: still reading, LOTS of info
[15:04] <ikonia> tyrus: it looks like it's the output mode thats the issue
[15:05] <Guest20682> will grub2 also fix my windwos mbr too
[15:05] <ibrahim-kasem__> !hp
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: eg: if your trying to (or it thinks trying to output) to hdmi that's not got good support
[15:05] <tyrus> exactly
[15:05] <Guest20682> since i am dual booting
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm not quite there yet
[15:05] <ikonia> Guest20682: your windows bootloader is fine
[15:05] <lontra> hi is the way to watch html 5 with google chrome/chromium ... to install chrome or can you chromium?
[15:05] <kish> firefox lost all its subpixel smoothing
[15:05] <tbaur> sup
[15:05] <tyrus> though am not at HDMI  yet
[15:05] <Guest20682> hmm it is
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: it may think you are though
[15:05] <Guest20682> too bad it is not loading windows
[15:05] <tyrus> ikonia:just basic sound
[15:05] <lontra> i can't get it to work with chromium only with chrome
[15:05] <Oer> ibrahim-kasem__,  HP is good supported :-)
[15:05] <maxpopols> anyone with e-payment system?
[15:05] <erUSUL> spazmi: do not look like serious errors. it looks like the program uses deprecated php functions that's why there are complaints.
[15:05] <ustudionoob> question: How can I tell what hardware has been recognized and is properly working?
[15:05] <ikonia> tyrus: there is no such thing as basic and advanced sound
[15:05] <tyrus> ikonia funny thing is that the headphones work perfect
[15:06] <ibrahim-kasem__> Oer, yes but I am having problems with using my modem
[15:06] <tbaur> I'll find out
[15:06] <ikonia> tyrus: they are off a different output
[15:06] <ikonia> tyrus: it sounds like it thinks it's trying to go out of hdmi
[15:06] <tyrus> hmm
[15:06] <ibrahim-kasem__> Oer, in my country 98% of users are using dial up connection
[15:07] <nobuy> then the crappy olpc is for your people
[15:07] <nobuy> or eeepc
[15:07] <_DGM_> whats wrong with eee pc
[15:07] <ikonia> nobuy: what are you talking about
[15:08] <tyrus> ikonia: now thats really interesting because i dont even have HDMI output yet
[15:08] <ikonia> tyrus: yet ? you either have a hdmi socket or you don't
[15:08] <tyrus> yeah but how about the external speakers..
[15:09] <arvind_khadri> hi, I needed some help with installing jffnms
[15:09] <ikonia> tyrus: what about them ?
[15:09] <Mavrik-> um, how do I get grub menu on Ubuntu Server 10.04 installation?
[15:09] <ZykoticK9> Mavrik-, hold shift down as computer starts
[15:09] <erUSUL> Mavrik-: press shift during boot
[15:10] <Mavrik-> tried that and it just goes straight to booting kernel and hanging
[15:10] <Mike5683> ok i need a nice walk through I tried to boot my computer system  says no boot device  available
[15:10] <Mavrik-> does it support USB keyboardS?
[15:10] <tyrus> ikonia:ok step by step
[15:11] <Mike5683> i tried to mess wiht it and it is not screwed up
[15:11] <lontra> hi ... i am running ubuntu 10.04 ... i have a quick question. can chromium watch html 5 videos on say youtube or do i need chrome? i noticed that with the same version number installed that only chrome can ... is this true?
[15:11] <ikonia> tyrus: ???
[15:11] <tyrus> ikonia:what you are saying is that my installation is trying to output to hdmi
[15:11] <erUSUL> Mavrik-: it should but i dunno for sure,
[15:11] <tyrus> ikonia:from the sound preferences i have specifically chosen analog output
[15:11] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm saying there is a possability it thinks you want it to output to hdmi - which does not have good support at this time
[15:11] <erUSUL> lontra: my chromium works just fine
[15:11] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, just FYI but you and duffyduck where correct - AAC does work with Medibuntu on Lucid - thanks (it was from yesterday)
[15:11] <Mike5683> i am trying to dual boot and ended up breaking both mbr's and system will not boot at all
[15:12] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: no problem; glad you worked it out
[15:12] <tyrus> ikonia:so am abit lost when it tries to select hdmi yet thats not the default selection
[15:12] <lontra> erUSUL: 32 bit or 64 bit? do you have any thing extra installed re: codecs?
[15:12] <lontra> erUSUL: i can only get html 5 to play with chrome not chromium
[15:12] <ikonia> tyrus: that's half the problem it maybe overriding what you are setting
[15:12] <ikonia> tyrus: I had a the opposite problem setting up hdmi sound on my dell
[15:13] <tyrus> ikonia:do tell how did you sort it out?
[15:13] <ikonia> tyrus: lot of effort hardcoding/pushing options, but that's a different chipset, hence why I'm researching yours
[15:13] <erUSUL> lontra: 64 bits. the cromium daily ppa ships the libvpx lib
[15:14] <lontra> erUSUL: are you the -stable, -beta, or -dev channel?
[15:14] <Mike5683> can i get some guidance please ?
[15:14] <arvind_khadri> Hi, I am having trouble with installing jffnms. I am not able to reach it from localhost.
[15:14] <tyrus> ikonia:i do appreciate the effort
[15:14] <tyrus> ikonia:i really dont want to believe its an issue with pulse audio or alsa
[15:14] <ikonia> tyrus: give it time, there is a lot of information (mostly nonsense) on it on the web
[15:15] <erUSUL> lontra: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main <<< this
[15:15] <Mike5683> i am totally new to ubuntu and found lots of ways to mess it up
[15:15] <ikonia> tyrus: it could be a genuine issue (hence logging a bug against the update)
[15:15] <Mike5683> ok what is the best way to fix this ?
[15:16] <lontra> erUSUL: ah that's the real cutting edge ;)
[15:16] <lontra> erUSUL: i'll check it out ... i'd prefer to run chromium than chrome
[15:17] <IdleOne> Mike5683: you installed ubuntu 10.04 then installed windows 7?
[15:17] <Mike5683> i have severe attention deficit disorder and any help would be great
[15:17] <Mike5683> i installed the  ubuntu
[15:17] <Mike5683> had a win xp side by side
[15:17] <Mike5683> then i installed win 7
[15:17] <ikonia> Mike5683: I told you what to do
[15:17] <ikonia> !grub2 > Mike5683
[15:17] <Mike5683> and then tried to fix it doing different things
[15:18] <Mike5683> then i soooo messed it all up even woese then ya think
[15:18] <ikonia> Mike5683: you've been told under the other guest nickname you where using
[15:18] <IdleOne> !grub2 | Mike5683 see section 11 on this page
[15:18] <Mike5683> ok can i boot using grub 2
[15:18] <ikonia> Mike5683: you've been TOLD
[15:18] <ikonia> Mike5683: stop messing around
[15:18] <bazhang> Mike5683, once you read the the link and fix it yes
[15:18] <erUSUL> lontra: webm and html5 video support was introduced lon ago
[15:18] <IdleOne> Mike5683: yes, if you go to the site provided above and follow the instructions
[15:18] <Mike5683> ok sorry
[15:19] <Mike5683> i am not tyingh to mess around
[15:19] <Mike5683> i just t4ried some of the grub stuff and go no where
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: you've been given the link which walks you through fixing it
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: follow it, and stop repeating the same question, with the same blurb after it
[15:19] <Mike5683> i am on my laptop as i can not use my desktop
[15:19] <lontra> erUSUL: ok i'll check it out ... you know you're running version pre-7 and there isn't even a 6 yet right ;)
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: that has no relevence
[15:19] <Mike5683> ok
[15:19] <jimlovell777> I've been using Firestarter for years with not much trouble but twice something has happened where certain sites don't load until I disable it. The confusing part is I changed nothing in my settings before the sites stopped loading. On both occasions the issue didn't disappear until I re-installed Ubuntu (I like clean upgrades). Any ideas?
[15:19] <ikonia> Mike5683: follow the link, if you have problems with the link, ask specific questions
[15:19] <felicity> hey all! someone with conky rings please share your conky configs and the files, i keep trying to get it to work, but no joy :(
[15:20] <Mike5683> all right will go and follow it
[15:20] <Mike5683> and then go from there
[15:20] <Sven-Linux> im having trouble whit my Ubuntu 9.10 my son did add ubuntu 10.04 sources in my /etc/apt.sources.list and then did a upgrade.. unfortunatly i dont have any X now :S
[15:20] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: that's not how you upgrade
[15:20] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: I would suggest a clean install now as your system will be in an unknown state
[15:20] <Sven-Linux> so everytime i boot my Laptop, i just have a terminal login, No GDM or no X how can i fix this ?
[15:21] <Sven-Linux> is it possible to do a system recovery in any way ?
[15:21] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: no
[15:21] <erUSUL> lontra: 7.0.501.0 (56965) Ubuntu 10.04 <<< ;P
[15:21] <Sven-Linux> is it possible to do anything whit X ?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  if you do 'startx' from the terminak after you login.. does X work?
[15:21] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: your system is in an unknown state, I would strongly suggest a clean install
[15:21] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: your system is in an unknown state as you've done an upgrade wrong
[15:21] <DrumHead> Does anyone have any experience with JACK?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Eww mess uped upgrade... thats not good.
[15:22] <dewman> I just installed apache from the package manager, how do i find out what user and group that is running the webserver?
[15:22] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: manually adding 10.04 sources to a 9.10 box !=good
[15:22] <spazmi> erUSUL: sorry for the late reply... but, is there any way to remove these as I doubt torrentflux is not developing anymore and they prolly won't update with the new functions? :)
[15:22] <hsr> How to find list of plugins used in Mozilla using Mozilla by some command?
[15:22] <rotham> how do I create icons to run specific terminal commands?
[15:22] <bazhang> hsr, about:plugins in address bar
[15:22] <ZykoticK9> Sven-Linux, FYI 10.10 has a new version of Xorg that breaks nvidia drivers if you happen to have one
[15:23] <Sven-Linux> i must fix this in any way
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> rotham:  make a launcher that launches the commands and set the icon as needed.. or make a shell script that does it and make a launcher that laucnhes the script
[15:23] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: I'd very strongly suggest a clean install
[15:23] <IdleOne> rotham: right click, create launcher and in the command field put in the command you want to run
[15:23] <Sven-Linux> i cant do a clean install at this moment..  is there anyway to fix GDM ? or Xorg ?
[15:23] <rotham> alright cool thanks
[15:23] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: that is the best way you can fix it and put your system back into a known state
[15:23] <erUSUL> spazmi: why not aswitch to a different torrent client?
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> rotham: in th eproperties dialog the Icon at the top left IS a button you click to change the icon
[15:23] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: I suggest you start looking at backing up your data so you can do a clean install
[15:23] <erUSUL> spazmi: if flux is not developed anymore ...
[15:23] <ZykoticK9> Sven-Linux, +1 on ikonia's suggestion above
[15:24] <mikebeecham_> does anyone know how I get my artwork advertised on OMGUbuntu.co.uk?  I've just finished my first wallpaper for Ubuntu and I think it's alright
[15:24] <Sven-Linux> ikonia: so the "damage" is that bad ?
[15:24] <hsr> bazhang : thanks.. How do you know this? Where do you find it? Is there a man for firefox commands?
[15:24] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: yes, and "unknown" which makes it worse
[15:24] <Sven-Linux> i only got problem whit X thats all..
[15:24] <Sven-Linux> everything else, works
[15:24] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: that you know of
[15:24] <IdleOne> mikebeecham_: email them, OMGubuntu is not affilliated with Canonical/Ubuntu
[15:24] <ikonia> Sven-Linux: there could be many many more
[15:24] <mikebeecham_> IdleOne, ok
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  does 'startx' work from the terminal?
[15:24] <CStryker_86> If someone has time, I would appreciate some wireless config help (atheros AR928X)
[15:25] <spazmi> erUSUL: I tried transmission but I think it lacks functions that flux has... or do you have any other recommendations? :)
[15:25] <erUSUL> spazmi: i use deluge
[15:25] <keld> If anyone can tell me how to search for a file created on a specific date I'd be immensely grateful. I've been sitting in man pages and sh|t up to my ears since yesterday now. I still don't get it.
[15:25] <Sven-Linux> ikonia: yeah! it does! OMG! :O
[15:25] <erUSUL> keld: find
[15:25] <keld> yes. but the date options?
[15:25] <Sven-Linux> but i dont understand why it isn't autostarting
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> keld:  the find command.. theres web sites with examples of its ussage.. it can find based on date..
[15:26] <keld> okay. will give it another go then
[15:26] <topriddy> am trying to chose between ubuntu and fedora as a developer machine with need for lesser download...i.e want all the important stuffs in the single installation
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  gdm could be broken.
[15:26] <spazmi> erUSUL: I'll have a look, thanks... any other tips? :)
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:   and who knows wht other parts of gnome also..
[15:26] <IdleOne> Sven-Linux: it isn't auto starting because the way your son tried to upgrade was the wrong way, packages did not get installed/upgraded properly putting your system in a weird state.
[15:26] <hsr> bazhang : thanks.. How do you know this? Where do you find it? Is there a man for firefox commands?
[15:27] <bazhang> hsr, not sure, common knowledge
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> topriddy:  ubuntu is on a 700mb cd.. but dosent come with most dev stuff..   I imagine the actual size of the 2 once you get stuff installed.. will be about the same
[15:27] <IdleOne> Sven-Linux: the best thing to do now is to backup your /home directory and do a clean install of 10.04
[15:27] <bazhang> Sven-Linux, really, back up and re install
[15:27] <erUSUL> spazmi: without known exactly what are your requirements no. ( deluge can has a web ui and can be split in two the gui and the server that can run in different machines never used it that way though )
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> topriddy:  theres other things to consider then just size of teh download..
[15:27] <bazhang> Sven-Linux, it'll be now or later, certainly
[15:27] <Sven-Linux> okay, yeah thanks for the advice, i will use my Live CD to backup my stuff and then i can reinstall
[15:27] <CStryker_86> how do I use dkms to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:27] <vimalsista> Guys, need some help in getting "tweetdeck" software installed in my Linux ubuntu 9.4 version
[15:28] <spazmi> erUSUL: copy that, I'll try it :) thanks
[15:28] <Sven-Linux> how big difference is it between 9.10 and 10.04 ?
[15:28] <hsr> bazhang : Okay thankss
[15:28] <vimalsista> Can anyone help me get tweetdeck installed in my machine ?
[15:28] <Sven-Linux> Im a little older person.. so thats why im wondering :)
[15:28] <andrew_708476> I'II leave it for tomorrow and ask a friend for help
[15:28] <vimalsista> It's prompting me to enter the ROOT password while i'm trying to install the "tweetdeck" application flash file :-)
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  lots of big changes.
[15:29] <abhijit> vimalsista, http://www.technixupdate.com/install-tweetdeck-on-ubuntu-linux/
[15:29] <Sven-Linux> i heard 10.04 is much faster
[15:29] <CStryker_86> how do I use dkms to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:29] <IdleOne> Sven-Linux: the differences are minimal in the sense that you probably won't notice much change except for some Interface changes but nothing to lose your head over or to confusing that you won't adapt
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Sven-Linux, 10.04 is a LTS version
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Sven-Linux:  it is in many ways.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> !LTS | Sven-Linux
[15:30] <bihari_> so lucid linux will  support for 10 years
[15:30] <ikonia> bihari_: no
[15:30] <abhijit> bihari, ?????
[15:30] <ikonia> !lts > bihari_
[15:30] <bihari_> sory 3 years
[15:31] <IdleOne> bihari: yes 3 years on desktop version
[15:31] <andrew_708476> bazhang do you mind if I add you so you can help me latter on sometime
[15:31] <tyrus> ikonia:any luck thus far?
[15:31] <ikonia> tyrus: nope,
[15:31] <bazhang> andrew_708476, okay
[15:31] <bihari_> IdleOne,  can i PM you
[15:31] <CStryker_86> how do I use dkms to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:31] <andrew_708476> thanks
[15:31] <IdleOne> bihari: sure
[15:31] <tyrus> ikonia:oh well lemme keep tinkering away
[15:32] <erUSUL> CStryker_86: linux-backports-modules does not need dkms afaik
[15:32] <CStryker_86> bad instructions from a message board then; what is the proper way to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:32] <ikonia> tyrus: I'm also looking at what device the speakers hang off, it may actually be hanging off teh digital output
[15:32] <tyrus> ikonia:come again
[15:32] <tyrus> skunkworks? from kenya?
[15:33] <ikonia> tyrus: the speakers may actually be classed as digital output, I don't know yet
[15:33] <madre> Hola estoy intentando instalar  Skype (beta) pero aunque me lo he bajado de los repositorios no me aparece en Aplicaciones>internet. Alguien me puede echar una mano.
[15:33] <ikonia> !es | madre
[15:34] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an actual difference in restarting services using /etc/init.d compared to just using the command services [name] ...?
[15:34] <CStryker_86> erUSUL: bad instructions from a message board then; what is the proper way to install linux-backports-modules?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> some soundcards are an " either or ", default is digital or anlog out but not both, ikonia, tyrus
[15:34] <bazhang> CStryker_86, add them via software sources
[15:34] <madre> Vale gracias.
[15:34] <devdz> what's the command to show hidden files in a directory pls?
[15:34] <ikonia> BluesKaj: ahhh interesting
[15:34] <erUSUL> CStryker_86: sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[15:34] <ZykoticK9> devdz, ls -a
[15:35] <CStryker_86> ersul: thanks much; I'll try it out
[15:35] <tyrus> BluesKaj:thanks for the correction
[15:35] <Guest17663> heeee
[15:35] <bazhang> erUSUL, he'll have to enable lucid backports for that, wont he?
[15:35] <Guest17663> :(
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> devdz, or ctrl+h if you are in nautilus ;)
[15:35] <ikonia> Guest17663: do you want something or just want to make noises ?
[15:35] <devdz> thx, Zykotik9
[15:36] <lontra> erUSUL: has that repo been relatively stable for you? just curious if you've had issues with chromium crashing, etc. i haven't tried the repo yet
[15:36] <_pg_> how do I tell a live cd to boot up with NOT the "noveau" driver for my nvida card?
[15:36] <CStryker_86> bazhang: I don't appear to; it is downloading and doing it's thing
[15:36] <ikonia> _pg_: the propritary drivers aren't installed on the livecd
[15:36] <ZykoticK9> _pg_, are you try to get proprietary driver on livecd?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ikonia, tyrus , not all are setup to run only one analog or digital , but most onboards and cheaper pci cards seem to have that restriction
[15:37] <bazhang> CStryker_86, good news then
[15:37] <guntbert> Guest17663: don't do everyday tasks (like irc) as root
[15:37] <_pg_> ikonia: the live cd is crashing hard and throwing up an error about that noveau thing
[15:37] <erUSUL> bazhang: according to apt-cache policy here no it wont
[15:37] <Guest17663> i am sorry, iam new using linux, this is the first time iam using xchat
[15:37] <coz_> Guest17663,  well then welcome aboard :)
[15:38] <erUSUL> lontra: well if you have a problem it only last a day. new day new browser ;). It is quite stable yes
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Guest17663, sorry for ?
[15:38] <lontra> erUSUL: great thanks :)AAA
[15:39] <bazhang> erUSUL, thanks
[15:39] <Guest17663> cant i chat to yahoo messenger from here, using xchat guys,,?
[15:39] <IdleOne> Guest17663: no
[15:39] <lontra> erUSUL: yeah i'd prefer to run chromium over chrome
[15:39] <IdleOne> Guest17663: you can use Empathy which is installed and can be found in Applications > Internet.
[15:39] <_pg_> ikonia: unhandled pmc intr status something noveau something
[15:41] <michas> hi, what was the reason for moving the sun-java6-* packages from multiverse to partner? Is there a place to read about the reasons?
[15:42] <Maletor> Can I unmount /var without using the liveCD?
[15:43] <Maletor> How do I figure out what processes are writing to /var ?
[15:43] <_pg_> ikonia: hello
[15:43] <nifu> hi :)
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[15:45] <FloodBot3> windydays: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <windydays> hello everybody.
[15:45] <Twilo> hello, I use ubuntu JeOS with lxde-core. how can I change the keyboard layout with the keyboard layout switcher applet in the task bar?
[15:45] <windydays> I have a LAMP server run UBUNTU10.04. I think upstart is really nice. But I found that apache is not started by upstart,that is why?
[15:46] <tyrus> BluesKaj:any idea on how to sort out the issue that i have
[15:46] <erUSUL> windydays: not converted yet?
[15:46] <ibrahim-kasem__> windydays, you have to start it using the terminal
[15:47] <vjj2000> hi when i use the windows installer for ubuntu can i set the partition size during the install?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> tyrus, pls explain your problem in a bit more detail
[15:47] <tyrus> ok here is the problem.
[15:47] <abhinav> vjj2000:  what do you mean by windows installer ? Wubi ? that does not require a separate partition, IIRC
[15:48] <ZykoticK9> vjj2000, I don't think the WUBI (windows installer) creates "real" partitions
[15:48] <abhinav> !wubi | vjj2000
[15:48] <windydays> my server is OK. But I want to use upstart instead of sysv init.
[15:48] <tyrus> I did a fresh install of 10.04, sound wasnt working but after tweaking abit with alsa and pulseaudio settings i got it to work
[15:48] <tyrus> BluesKaj:so yesterday i did an update that involved a kernel upgrade and i was back to where i started. no sound at all from the external speakers
[15:49] <vjj2000> would it be better to use the normal ubuntu installer in stead of the Wubi?
[15:49] <ZykoticK9> vjj2000, yes 1000X yes
[15:49] <guntbert> Maletor: type fuser -m /var   -- you get the PIDs
[15:49] <tyrus> BluesKaj:so i have been playing around with the same configs up until now but to no avail
[15:49] <vjj2000> thx ZykoticK9
[15:50] <BluesKaj> tyrus, so let's start with the basics ,: is alsamixer setup ?
[15:50] <tyrus> BluesKaj:am running a HP 620 with the following sound card Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> vjj2000, dual booting creation with Install CD is very straight forward
[15:50] <tyrus> yes alsa is up
[15:51] <vjj2000> ZykoticK9  i have already installed ubuntu but i have a new computer and just wondered
[15:52] <ubuntu__> hi...
[15:52] <abhinav> !hi | ubuntu__
[15:52] <ubuntu__> how do u do........?
[15:52] <vjj2000> bye
[15:52] <BluesKaj> tyrus, ok,digital/spdif working , all ctrls cranked and nothing muted...I have to ask the obvious :)
[15:52] <ubuntu__> bye.....
[15:52] <wildeja> Hello all, I realise that this is probably the wrong channel for my query but i'm hoping that a kind soul could direct me to somewhere more relevant so i am apologising in advance.  Question: Where can i talk with someone about what to use to design my webpage (i.e. xhtml,html dom,javascript,css,xml,etc))
[15:53] <tyrus> BluesKaj:yes they are all unmuted
[15:53] <abhinav> wildeja: #html ?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> tyrus, have you visited the intelhda page ?
[15:54] <guntbert> ubuntu: this is the support channel.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:54] <wildeja> abhinav, Thanks for the suggestion but i posted exactly the same as i posted here to no response
[15:54] <wildeja> abhinav, in #html i mean
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | tyrus
[15:55] <wildeja> Ive visited the w3c site and w3schools but there are alot of versions and i want to use something standard
[15:55] <guntbert> !ot | wildeja
[15:55] <wildeja> guntbert, I explained and appologised for that in my first post
[15:56] <wildeja> guntbert, i just run outta options sorry
[15:56] <guntbert> wildeja: that doesn't mean its ok to insist
[15:56] <wildeja> insist?
[15:56] <ibrahim-kasem__> wildeja, asking for help is okay dude :)
[15:57] <wildeja> definatly asking for help :)
[15:57] <abhinav> wildeja: try #web
[15:57] <tyrus> aaiit
[15:57] <wildeja> just directions would be so greatfully recieved
[15:58] <dewman> how would i find out what user is running apache if i installed it from the package manager?
[15:58] <tyrus> lemme do that BluesKaj
[15:58] <wildeja> abhinav, Thanks dude
[15:58] <dewman> I know the group is wwwdata
[15:59] <andrew_708476> Bazhang do you know what other good stuff is for Ubuntu
[16:00] <MichRT> I have an Intel 82852/82855 Graphics Media Accelerator  graphics card in my laptop. In Ubuntu 9.10, I can enable compiz. In 10.04, however, It is not stable till  I run it in safe graphics mode. Help?
[16:00] <dogmatic69> hey all
[16:01] <phasip> Hello
[16:01] <dogmatic69> yesterday my shell screen thing was colored and transparent, now its white and boring... anyone know what happened?
[16:01] <xylol> hi
[16:01] <andrew_708476> So Bazhang where are you from
[16:01] <zzzed> dewman, do ps aux | grep -e apache
[16:02] <MichRT> Hello dogmatic69 and phasip
[16:02] <bobo123> dogmatic69: yes there are a setting in gnome-terminal for that
[16:02] <ZykoticK9> dogmatic69, by "shell" do you mean terminal?  Are you using gnome-terminal?  If so, Edit menu then Profile Preferences to add transparency etc.
[16:02] <dogmatic69> sup MichRT
[16:02] <guntbert> !ot > andrew_708476
[16:02] <dogmatic69> ZykoticK9: that is exactly what i mean :P
[16:03] <bobo123> dogmatic69: profile-settings/Background/Transparent. (personally I prefer white and booring)
[16:03] <dogmatic69> lol
[16:03] <dogmatic69> i just remebered i changed the theme
[16:03] <dogmatic69> that would explain it
[16:04] <bobo123> do anyonw know if it is possible to prevent aptitude from painting the screen black?
[16:04] <MichRT> I have an Intel 82852/82855 Graphics Media Accelerator  graphics card in my laptop. In Ubuntu 9.10, I can enable compiz. In 10.04, however, It is not stable till  I run it in safe graphics mode. Help?
[16:05] <DrumHead> Does anyone know what causes this: jackd: unknown driver 'freebob'?
[16:05] <bobo123> I thought I should look at the aptitide userinterface (just in case the X graphics system stops working one day). is it possible to make it stop with its black background?
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> MichRT, i have an Intel N10 card in my EEE netbook - I can only use certain Compiz features without it crashing :(  Doesn't help I realize, but wanted you to know you aren't alone ;)  Best of luck man.
[16:06] <MichRT> Hello xylol
[16:06] <bobo123> Ideeally someonse should make a textuserinterface to synaptic but in lack of that......
[16:07] <MichRT> Thanks Zykotick9
[16:07] <zzzed> DrumHead, start jackctl, click setup, then change driver to alsa
[16:07] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, by text do you man apt or aptitude?  there is already 2.
[16:08] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: aptitide
[16:08] <DrumHead> zzzed, thanks for your response... I switched to ALSO and now I get "JACK has crashed"
[16:09] <MichRT> How do you permanently enable "Safe Grahpics Mode" or the VESA driver?
[16:09] <dogmatic69> when i build something from source where should this be done?
[16:09] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: I guess there is some commandline-using of aptitude too, but I am only interested in the userinterface-way of using it. when it is started without parameters. black black black  :-(
[16:09] <DrumHead> zzzed, have been researching/fighting with this for days :-/
[16:09] <zzzed> DrumHead, where are you seeing the "JACK has crashed" msg
[16:09] <dogmatic69> i dont want to put random files all over
[16:10] <DrumHead> zzzed, in the messages window
[16:10] <Maletor> Can anybody help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557847
[16:10] <zzzed> DrumHead, ok, what does it say before that
[16:10] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, the screen turns "dark" whenever you start a gksu'ed program, is that what you mean?
[16:10] <DrumHead> Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line:
[16:10] <DrumHead>      @audio   -  memlock    unlimited
[16:10] <DrumHead> in your /etc/limits.conf to read:
[16:10] <DrumHead>      @audio   -  memlock    957126
[16:10] <DrumHead> 10:07:39.368 JACK was started with PID=4833.
[16:10] <FloodBot3> DrumHead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <DrumHead> no message buffer overruns
[16:10] <ZykoticK9> !paste | DrumHead
[16:11] <vimalsista> @ abhijit : Thanks for the quick turn around !!! :-) I'll try installing it, if I hung up anywhere in the middle, I shall ping you :-)
[16:12] <DrumHead> zzzed, sorry about the improper paste :-/
[16:12] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: no, when I run synaptic and press enter in a command line window here, it starts it userinterface (way harder to use than synaptic btw), but with black backround. can it be started so it doesn't change the background? (so the text is easier to read with normal black text on white background)
[16:13] <zzzed> DrumHead, do you have "Verbose messages" check in your setup?
[16:13] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: sorry I mean. when I starta aptitude and press enter
[16:13] <DrumHead> zzzed, not that time--will enable and try again.
[16:14] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, sorry i really don't know...  i typically don't use aptitude interface on cli.
[16:14] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: aha
[16:14] <bobo123> ZykoticK9: I guess real hardcore linux users do all those things with commandline commands (apt) instead
[16:15] <DrumHead> zzzed, "new client: alsa_pcm, id = 1 type 1 @ 0x919d5f0 fd = -1"
[16:15] <ZykoticK9> bobo123, apt and aptitude are more or less interchangeable when given commands/swtiches.  I just opened "aptitude" and saw the interface, i have NO idea how it works yet ;)  Good luck man.
[16:15] <DrumHead> zzzed, the jack stops
[16:16] <DrumHead> zzzed, exit status 256
[16:17] <DrumHead> zzzed, I would paste using the site but every process i try to start is immediately killed now... not sure what is up with that
[16:19] <dewman> zzzed, thanks.... =)
[16:19] <zzzed> DrumHead, what kind of sound card are you using
[16:19] <BentFranklin> Strange behavior: vnc to a Hardy host fails unless I have an NX session running on that host.  When I terminate the NX, vnc won't connect until I start it up again.  If I just disconnect from the NX session, vnc will connect. What up with that?
[16:20] <DrumHead> zzzed, I have a Presonus firepod going through a Rosewill (VIA chipset) firewire card
[16:21] <zzzed> DrumHead, in that case change the driver to "firewire"
[16:21] <root_> hello guys, my linux cannot read japanese letter, any advices?
[16:21] <_DGM_> then your linux is not much different from me
[16:22] <Oer> root_ mine ubuntu does
[16:23] <DrumHead> zzzed, that did a lot more (seemed like it was going to work) the stopped again "jack main caught signal 12". Then, it stopped itself again. Finally, ended with jackd: no process found
[16:23] <Jordan_U> root_: You shouldn't log in as root.
[16:23] <slow-motion> hi
[16:23] <trijntje> !hi | slow-motion
[16:23] <root_> iam sorry jordan,,this is the first i am here,,iam new in linux
[16:24] <_DGM_> use your real username instead of root
[16:24] <Oer> root_,  kind of old, but maybe helpfull > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[16:24] <_DGM_> its much safer
[16:24] <DrumHead> zzzed, also the sync light on the FP10 changed
[16:24] <root_> thnx Oer,,i ll see it
[16:25] <zib_> hello
[16:25] <trijntje> !hi | zib_
[16:26] <DrDetroit> Hello
[16:26] <zzzed> DrumHead, try channel #ubuntustudio, I don't really know jack w/firewire
[16:26] <DrumHead> zzzed, thanks for your help
[16:27] <zib_> I'm trying to compile the xf86-input-wacom driver but a package is missing and I don't find it
[16:27] <zib_> I've posted on ubuntu forums here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9746636&postcount=139
[16:28] <DrDetroit> I have installed Ubuntu and am quite pleased with it, but there is one thing I have been unable to accomplish, which is streaming mp3 files, is there a online guide as how to do this?
[16:28] <cba123> Anyone have issues with mdadm?  I'm considering going moving my FreeNAS box to Ubuntu, but I don't want to risk data on an mdadm array if it is still iffy.
[16:28] <jrib> zib_: erm, why are you compiling it instead of using APT?
[16:29] <jrib> zib_: xserver-xorg-input-wacom is in the repositories, use that.  I have to go play sc2 now, bye and gl :)
[16:29] <jfroebe> zib_ - did you install wacom-tools and still having troubles?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[16:30] <switch10_> I have conky setup to read a todo list from ~/Dropbox.  Is there a way I can easily edit this file using tomboy or other?  I'd like to avoid opening a text editor to add a task etc.
[16:30] <amy_> hello?
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> !hi | amy_
[16:31] <Feroy> um, is there anyone here to help me, I need help and I think I need to be redirected to a Channel with hardware assistance . . . .
[16:32] <ZykoticK9> Feroy, ##hardware is a hardware channel
[16:32] <Feroy> ok, thank you
[16:32] <zib_> i'm on lucid so no wacom tools
[16:32] <DrDetroit> hello?
[16:32] <coz_> zib_,    I have a wacom intuos3 tablet here and the keys  dont work much at all
[16:32] <DrDetroit> I have installed Ubuntu and am quite pleased with it, but there is one thing I have been unable to accomplish, which is streaming mp3 files, is there a online guide as how to do this?
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | DrDetroit
[16:33] <coz_> zib_,  there used to be a source code for wacom keys express  but it never worked for me
[16:33] <Feroy> Cannot join ##hardware: Registration is required.
[16:33] <Feroy> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[16:33] <Feroy>  do I need to register on the ubuntu website?
[16:33] <FloodBot3> Feroy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <voobscout> anybody knows how to move a panel to another monitor? i got 2
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> !register > Feroy
[16:33] <Jordan_U> !register | Feroy
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> voobscout, can you drag other windows from one monitor to the other?  if so, simply drag the panel to the other monitor.
[16:34] <zib_> i'm trying to install my bamboo craft using the tutoriel available on ubuntu forums ... but little problem with this driver
[16:34] <terrence> Hi all
[16:34] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: yeah, i can drag windows, but panel stays in-place
[16:34] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: can't drag it, i tried
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> voobscout, try holding down ALT and dragging
[16:35] <terrence> I'm trying to get Totem Movie player to play youtube files
[16:35] <terrence> Is there anyone who has it working on 10.4
[16:35] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: thanks mate
[16:35] <coz_> zib_,  sudo apt-get install libxrandr-dev
[16:36] <voobscout> and another question about 2 monitors, compiz stopped working....
[16:36] <coz_> zib_,  then recompile that package
[16:36] <amy_> i recently switched to lubuntu from windows vista and now my webcam/microphone are not being detected...any ideas?
[16:36] <gonzolively> hey guys quick question, i have a network drive (ntfs) mapped to my linux machine, i need read and write privileges, however i've been unsuccessful at doing that.  Any ideas?
[16:36] <voobscout> any reason why compiz shouldn't work with a dual monitor system?
[16:37] <coz_> - zib_    sudo apt-get install  libxrandr-dev   then recompile that package
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> voobscout, someone mentioned yesterday that dualmonitor with ubuntu's compiz can cause issues (i didn't experience that), you might want to ask in #compiz if you don't get an answer here first.  Good luck.
[16:37] <terrence> Can't play youtube on my movie player
[16:37] <terrence> any help?
[16:37] <coz_> terrence,  I couldnt get that to either on this end
[16:37] <voobscout> ZykoticK9: right, thyanks
[16:38] <terrence> I tried a few help guides, but they don't work
[16:38] <coz_> - zib_   ok
[16:38] <amy_> i recently switched from windows vista to lubuntu..and now my webcam/microphone are not being detected...any ideas?? :S
[16:38] <terrence> coz, do you have a youtube.py file in usr/lib/totem/plugins/youtub
[16:39] <terrence> coz, do you have a youtube.py file in usr/lib/totem/plugins/youtube I mean
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> amy_, does "lspci | grep -i audio" show your audio card?  It might help the channel assist you.
[16:40] <terrence> I figure if I can find the file I can apply the Ubuntu 9 patch
[16:41] <amy_> unfortunately i am entirely new to ubuntu and this is far beyond me... this is my first day usuing the linux program. perhaps i should ask the person who installed this in my computer...thank you though :/
[16:42] <Jordan_U> terrence: Youtube changed things up recently, breaking most youtube download clients.
[16:42] <juanluis> no recuerdo como usar irc :s
[16:42] <xangua> terrence: you mean with totem¿
[16:42] <terrence> thanks Jordan_U
[16:43] <terrence> yes xangua
[16:43] <xangua> well...it's broken terrence
[16:43] <xangua> wait until maverick release
[16:43] <Coccinelle> #join archlinuxfr
[16:43] <xangua> or you can try a PPA, under your own risk terrence
[16:43] <terrence> OK - is there any other player that works for youtube in the meantime
[16:44] <terrence> xangua: Whats a PPA
[16:44] <ZykoticK9> !ppa | terrence
[16:44] <terrence> Thanks - will give that a try
[16:44] <terrence> thanks Xangua
[16:45] <Zoffix> Has anyone ever gotten any "BlueTrace" mice to work on Ubuntu? I just bought Lexma MS7160. It's a regular mouse + small mouse - both use Blue Trace, and I have right now three mice connected and only my old laser one works.... any suggestions how to approach this? Would it be reasonable to think that the Blue Trace mice would start working if I rebooted?
[16:45] <xangua> terrence: another¿ you can also try minitube
[16:45] <Jordan_U> terrence: You're welcome, here is the bug report concerning this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/609855
[16:45] <ZykoticK9> Zoffix, you can only use 1 mouse at a time i believe (or you require a multipoint Xorg)
[16:45] <terrence> xangua: I've tried minitube, but get a different error
[16:45] <xangua> terrence: both minitube and totem updates that work again with youtube are in this PPA that acumulates a lot more of other program updates https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/guiodiclucid
[16:46] <Zoffix> ZykoticK9, ah. Ok thanks. I'll try connecting just one and try to see if the Blue Trace mouse works after dist upgrade I'm doing ATM...
[16:46] <terrence> Xangua thanks a mil . I'll try and come back to let you know how it ent
[16:47] <DrDetroit> Hello, Is there any easy way to stream my mp3 collection across the net to my friends? I have been unsuccessful so far, and was wondering if there is some online gude to help me set it up?
[16:48] <xangua> terrence: if something goes wrong with that ppa you can rollback with ppa-purge, do you have ppa-purge in your system¿
[16:48] <izika> hi all!
[16:49] <izika> i use ubuntu 10.04 (updated). the glipper gives always error when starts gnome. so how to start it from terminal ?
[16:49] <terrence> xangua; I just installed it - thanks
[16:49] <cwwilson721> I have a friend that is having an issue with grub in a dual-boot, Win7/Ubuntu 10.04-64. grub lost it's mind, boots into Win7, no menu for Ubuntu. He tried reinstalling, no joy. Ideas?
[16:50] <Zoffix> Heh, well, something new I've just learned. If you unplug your working mouse, try to plug a different mouse, and then even if you plug your original mouse back, it won't work :/ I'm now mouseless for the next 40-50 minutes lol
[16:51] <oxidkor> hello - I am in trouble - I accidentally remove the volume bar on top right section of my panel - how could I bring it back?
[16:51] <ZykoticK9> Zoffix, don't unplug any PS2 mice while the computer is running - can lead to bad things (USB should be able to be unplugged/replugged ok)
[16:51] <Zoffix> oxidkor, right click on your pannel, find "Add to panel" and find volume control there.
[16:52] <root_> cannot read "kanji",,japanese letter,,please help,,
[16:52] <trijntje> oxidkor, Zoffix I believe its called "notification area"
[16:52] <ZykoticK9> oxidkor, on 10.04 you need to add Indicator applet i believe
[16:52] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install a AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
[16:52] <dogmatic69> anyone know where all the php.ini files would be? ive installed xdebug and it shows in phpinfo() but its not "working"
[16:53] <Zoffix> ZykoticK9, I once burnt PS/2 port while unplugging a keyboard, so I've learned that the hard way :) In any case, all three of my current mice are USB.
[16:53] <joeyeye> My desktop suffers from frequent hangs, sometimes I can ssh in, other times I can not. It appears that GDM has hung but I don't know how to troubleshoot - can anyone here help me ?
[16:53] <oxidkor> thanks - it came back
[16:53] <oxidkor> :))
[16:53] <oxidkor> thanks alot
[16:53] <ZykoticK9> oxidkor, what it notification or indicator that worked?
[16:54] <_ting_> tyrus do you solve the proble with your hdmi audio ?
[16:54] <ZykoticK9> oxidkor, what/was
[16:54] <ParkerM> Where would the flash player shared objects be stored from firefox in wine as well as firefox in ubuntu?
[16:54] <cwwilson721> Nobody knows grub?
[16:54] <oxidkor> ZykoticK9: indicator
[16:54] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install an AR928X Wireless Network Adapter; I installed the backports and still no joy
[16:55] <ParkerM> Oh wait I have the ubuntu directory
[16:56] <oxidkor> ZykoticK9:indicator worked my man
[16:56] <oxidkor> ;)
[16:56] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install an AR928X Wireless Network Adapter; I installed the backports and still no joy
[16:56] <OltreIrc`27813> ciao
[16:57] <OltreIrc`27813> !list
[16:57] <vandy> hyyyy
[16:57] <OltreIrc`27813> !list
[16:57] <ParkerM> !list
[16:57] <ZykoticK9> OltreIrc`27813, !list doesn't work here.  Can we help you?
[16:57] <joeyeye> My desktop suffers from frequent hangs, sometimes I can ssh in, other times I can not. It appears that GDM has hung but I don't know how to troubleshoot - can anyone here help me ?
[16:58] <cba123> _ting_, tyrus, I had a hell of a time getting HDMI audio to work, until I installed alsa 1.0.23-2.  I found a script somewhere that auto-installs and compiles it.
[16:58] <trijntje> joeyeye, ctrl+alt+f1 should put you in a text console, where you can restart X
[16:58] <trijntje> ctrl + alt +f7 to go back to the graphic desktop
[16:59] <ZykoticK9> joeyeye, and "sudo service gdm restart" is the command to restart GDM
[16:59] <joeyeye> trijntje, I know, but even sudo service gdm restart fails, as does sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart
[16:59] <CStryker_86> could someone help me install an AR928X Wireless Network Adapter; I installed the backports and still no joy
[17:00] <joeyeye> trijntje, sometimes my only option is power cycle. It's happened since upgrade to Lucid
[17:00] <CStryker_86> could someone at least tell me where to look for more info; I've been googling this for days
[17:01] <kuttan_> hello
[17:01] <maco> CStryker_86: have you considered that maybe its just plain not supported?
[17:02] <Diverdude> how do i recursively search all files that ends with .m in a direcoty and all subdirs in the terminal?
[17:02] <CStryker_86> maco, I considered that, but other people have gotten it to work; for some reason their solutions don't work for me
[17:02] <maco> Diverdude: find . -name *.m
[17:02] <cwwilson721>  I have a friend that is having an issue with grub in a dual-boot, Win7/Ubuntu 10.04-64. grub lost it's mind, boots into Win7, no menu for Ubuntu. He tried reinstalling, no joy. Ideas?
[17:02] <trijntje> joeyeye, maybe sudo killall Xorg?
[17:03] <maco> cwwilson721: holding shift doesnt bring up a menu either?
[17:04] <cwwilson721> One sec
[17:04] <Diverdude> maco, that gives error: find: paths must precede expression: Analysis.m
[17:04] <cwwilson721> He doesn't want to reboot, lost ubuntu completely last time, and reinstalled entire OS
[17:04] <maco> Diverdude: weird. try "find ./ -name *.m"
[17:05] <maco> wahooooo: you said "he tried reinstalling" ... what did he reinstasll? windows or ubuntu?
[17:05] <cwwilson721> Ubuntu.
[17:06] <ParkerM> Is there a help channel for wine?
[17:06] <maco> cwwilson721: is he in ubuntu right now?
[17:06] <ParkerM> !wine
[17:06] <bsod1> how can I open rar formatted files from terminal
[17:06] <cwwilson721> Yes
[17:06] <maco> cwwilson721: how'd he get to it this time?
[17:06] <ParkerM> #winehq
[17:06] <ParkerM> whoops
[17:06] <maco> bsod1: unrar foo.rar
[17:06] <maco> bsod1: probably have to install unrar first though
[17:06] <bsod1> maco: ty, how can I choose which folder to unrar?
[17:06] <Madmanden> Is it possible to change the Gnome panel weather icon (Clock) into something more colorful (like in earlier versions of Ubuntu)?
[17:07] <maco> bsod1: dont know if you can. if its possible "man unrar" will tell you
[17:07] <bsod1> maco:thanks
[17:07] <elitexray> hi
[17:08] <Crash> hey
[17:08] <xangua> Madmanden: depends of your icon theme
[17:09] <myke5161> Question: Is there a way to install Ubuntu 10.04 without having to put in the login name and password untill AFTER the complete install? I want to build a computer for a friend
[17:09] <xangua> Madmanden: you mean gnome colors¿ http://img830.imageshack.us/i/tmpfin8bd.png/ sudo apt-get install gnome-colors
[17:09] <edbian> myke5161, Like an OEM thing?  There has to be because Dell ships computers with Ubuntu pre-installed.  I don't know how to set it up.
[17:10] <TiK> you get the OEM livecd's
[17:10] <myke5161> Edbian: yes
[17:10] <maco> myke5161: yes, thats a OEM install
[17:10] <myke5161> where can i download the oem live cd on Ubuntu's webstie?
[17:10] <maco> myke5161: its the same cd
[17:11] <duffydack> you choose the oem option
[17:11] <BentFranklin> How can I find out what X session I am looking at (via console, NX or vnc) and a list of all sessions running?
[17:11] <maco> myke5161: it used to be that there'd be a list of F-keys at the bottom and you hit one of them (F6 i think for options?) but the new installer moved it somewhere :-/
[17:11] <myke5161> Maco: what part of the installation prompts you for an oem install?
[17:11] <maco> myke5161: it doesnt prompt
[17:12] <duffydack> press F4
[17:12] <duffydack> choose oem
[17:12] <myke5161> ah ok
[17:12] <myke5161> let me try that in VB
[17:12] <Madmanden> xangua: thanks, I'll look into that :)
[17:16] <wayne> #list
[17:16] <rabana> this morning i have no toolbar functions--navigation yes but no file, edit, bookmarks, favorites, etc. also no right click mouse functions. when i shut down last night everything was normal. when i opened this morning they were gone.
[17:16] <myke5161> thanks for the help all
[17:19] <skumara> hi. this channel is quiet!
[17:19] <zkriesse> skumara: Its a help channel
[17:19] <twisted_> yo :) I'm installing netatalk now from the ubuntu repo but that is v2.0.5-3 but on the site of netatalk it tells me that's from nov2009 and the current version is 2.1.3
[17:20] <twisted_> are there repo's for ubuntu that supply newer packages?
[17:20] <zkriesse> If its quiet its kinda a good thing
[17:20] <Fraff> Hello, I am having trouble with opacity in compiz. I have my opacity set to 99% for menus but it is extremely transparent to the point where i cant even read my menus
[17:20] <skumara> yes. i need help. i found out that downloading software from ubuntu software channel in lucid is very slow. any method to make it fast?
[17:20] <zkriesse> twisted_: You might have to compile that program feom source
[17:21] <xangua> skumara: tried using the principal server¿
[17:21] <zkriesse> skumara: It is most likely your internet or people could just be hammering the servers
[17:21] <North_Italian69> how to see all owns open ports?
[17:21] <twisted_> zkriesse: there's not like debian a stable/testing/unstable ?
[17:22] <white_magic> is it possible to force desktop icons to have a drop shadow in their text (like Win Vista or 7)?
[17:22] <skumara> xangua, how can i change the server. or choose a mirror location.
[17:22] <xangua> skumara: system>administration>software sources
[17:22] <zkriesse> white_magic: Im sure there is but i dont know for sure
[17:22] <skumara> zkriesse, my internet is not slow. i can download software from www.download.com very fast.
[17:23] <felicity> i did a dist-upgrade, and now am getting an error: var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image* sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).what am i doing wrong?
[17:23] <duffydack> skumara, set it to use a repo nearer you.  run software sources, and choose best server
[17:23] <duffydack> skumara, it will do some tests
[17:24] <skumara> xangua, thank you. now iḿ getting fast connection from main server
[17:24] <skumara> thank you
[17:24] <Mcar> Hello, Uhm, How do install a java runtime enviroment on ubuntu?
[17:25] <duffydack> Mcar, depends which
[17:25] <Mcar> duffdack, what do you mean? I need the latest one
[17:25] <xangua> !java | Mcar
[17:25] <duffydack> Mcar, do you want it to play pogo
[17:26] <jaybee> My ubuntu server (10.04) appears to have firewall settings.... but I have no idea where they are coming from, how can I find out?
[17:26] <lontra> hi why is it when i install the appmenu indicator, i.e. the global menu bar, from the canonical design ppa, that it screws up my indicator applet
[17:26] <duffydack> Mcar,  either install the open source version,   openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin     or suns version,  sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[17:27] <duffydack> umm he`s gone.
[17:28] <xangua> lontra: don't use it then
[17:28] <Knipsa> hi, need help on upgrading 9.10->10.04: after 2 hours of installing from a iso-alternate-image on an external HD it stops asking: if i want to override "/etc/gnome/defaults.list", the problem is: i can't answer 'cause mouse and keyboard aren't responsitive (i can switch to a console via ctrl-alt-f1) what can/should i do now?
[17:29] <felicity> apparently, my linux-image is broken.how do i fix this?
[17:29] <lontra> xangua: i wanted to test it and was curious if there was a work around
[17:29]  * duffydack uses the oem install for the first time and sees that it rocks.
[17:30] <bitplane> hi, I've got a laptop here with a bunch of special buttons with lights on them and stuff. any idea whether these live in the filesystem somewhere?
[17:31] <bitplane> there's the standard crappy media buttons but also a volume control, the buttons appear to work but the state of the lights don't. like when I mute I'd like to make the volume light go orange like it does on windows
[17:31] <duffydack> bitplane, be thankful they work at all :)
[17:32] <bitplane> duffydack: how do I make em work for everyone else?
[17:32] <bitplane> lsusb doesn't show anything, I can't find anything in /dev/ or /proc/sys
[17:32] <bitplane> I'm happy to hack and submit patches
[17:33] <bitplane> just wanna know where to start
[17:33] <MichealH> felicity: Could we have your kernel number please?
[17:33] <duffydack> bitplane, the ones on my dell are lit up  (they are touch buttons, not keys) and they light up a little more when pressed, but it works out of the box so I have no idea how to configure any of them, never had to
[17:34] <jaybee> Is there really any advantage to having partitions for each linux sub dir (ie var, home, /)?
[17:34] <felicity> MichealH: okay, this is a little embarassing, <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:34] <felicity> MichealH: i had an old iso, so now i was upgrading
[17:34] <jaybee> I've just realised my host has done this, wtf do I want a 400+GB home for on a server?
[17:34] <jaybee> but only a 4GB var?
[17:34] <dios_mio> jaybee, well the only advantage is that when you install a new system, you will keep your home files
[17:35] <MichealH> felicity: What version of ubuntu?
[17:35] <felicity> MichealH: intrepid
[17:35] <threeseas> upgraded tp 10.04... where might I find the log file for this?
[17:35] <ServerTech> what is the command to see all process and end one pid. no.?
[17:35] <jaybee> Is there an easy way over ssh for ubtunu to move all of the partitions except /boot into one and just have that as /?
[17:35] <jaybee> or did my host screw me over?
[17:35] <TiK> ServerTech: ps aux
[17:36] <TiK> ServerTech: kill -9 PID
[17:36] <ServerTech> thx how do i end one
[17:36] <ServerTech> Thx
[17:36] <LoFo> hello
[17:36] <MichealH> felicity: Are you wanting to upgrade to lucid or?
[17:36] <felicity> MichealH: i just did an apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:36] <duffydack> jaybee, try asking your host to give you what you want.
[17:37] <felicity> MichealH: and now, am getting an error after hours of downloading.and my net connection is really slow :(
[17:37] <jaybee> It's not managed
[17:37] <LoFo> i'm having a little problem with the update manager.  i get the following message when trying to run the update:
[17:37] <LoFo> Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-lpia/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:37] <LoFo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:37] <FloodBot3> LoFo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <jaybee> apart from installing an os for you
[17:37] <devdz> hi guys!  .. i'm now under linux and have on my hard disk windows_xp.exe wana intall it on one of my local drive, how can i do it without burning it and boot from cd ?
[17:37] <maco> jaybee: on servers, yes there is an advantage
[17:37] <LoFo> Can anybody point me to how to solve this problem?
[17:37] <hishamnajam> Hello everyone :) i was trying to exclude some directories/files from AIDE db....in what file of /etc/aide/aide.conf.d/ should i place my exclude list??
[17:37] <MichealH> felicity: I suggest a good, clean install
[17:38] <duffydack> jaybee, so ask them to install it again, properly.
[17:38] <xangua> LoFo: remove that repository
[17:38] <felicity> MichealH: oh snap.i thought you'd say that.anyway, let me try tinker with it and see what happens
[17:38] <MichealH> Yeah.
[17:38] <jaybee> I will because it's retarded, only 4GB for / and /var, home gets 400GB.... do they realise all the logs and mysql data that defaults to going somewhere other than home?
[17:39] <threeseas> upgraded to 10.04... where might I find the log file for this?
[17:39] <iredux> Locking my screen with Control-Alt-L sometimes fails; I think that certain windows will eat the key combination.    Maybe 'parted' can do it, or the LVM tools if they are LVM
[17:39] <LoFo> OK, I'm rather new to Ubuntu... how do I remove that repository?
[17:39] <duffydack> jaybee, an idiot :)
[17:39] <jaybee> ok ill blame them then :)
[17:39] <Anuovis> LoFo, check private ms
[17:40] <Anuovis> *msg
[17:40] <xangua> LoFo: how did you add it¿
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> can anyone answer me a question about partitioning concerning dualboot systems with windows 7 and ubuntu?
[17:40] <Anuovis> I had a similar problem
[17:40] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, ask away
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> I'm a beginner with ubuntu
[17:40] <xangua> system>administration>software sources would be the easiest LoFo
[17:40] <tortoise7> the installer (from within win7) returns: cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO........  thoughts?
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> I tried to make a shared partition for files
[17:40] <hishamnajam> :) can anyone help me with the AIDE exclude ?
[17:40] <sinurge> Stiwanoff, whatz your question
[17:40] <Stiwanoff> during the install
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> but it showed me 3 partitions
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> sda1, sda2, sda3
[17:41] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, windows 7 has 1 partition for boot and 1 for main os
[17:41] <LoFo> @xangua - OK thanks, i'll give it a shot
[17:41] <vegombrei> hi can i install the netbook edition on my laptop? whats the difference anyway?
[17:41] <sinurge> duffydack, really had no clue it did that
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> it also showed one called windows vista loade
[17:41] <Stiwanoff> r
[17:42] <Stiwanoff> but i never installed vista on my pc
[17:42] <Stiwanoff> so you think i could delete that one?
[17:42] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, you might have some hidden recovery partition from your pc supplier
[17:42] <threeseas> anyone know where the upgrade log file is kept?
[17:42] <Stiwanoff> hm
[17:43] <Stiwanoff> but then I got 4 primary partitions
[17:43] <Stiwanoff> I'll think there is a guide for that problem
[17:43] <Stiwanoff> sry I think I'll check it out^
[17:43] <shortlord> does anyone know how to run awesome as the window manager for gnome under ubuntu? I have made a custom script that exports WINDOW_MANAGER="awesome", the script shows up as an entry in GDM, but when I log in, gnome ignores the export and just loads compiz
[17:43] <duffydack> Stiwanoff,  I`m not sure what the 3rd partition is if you havent installed any other OS...
[17:43] <aleks> hi ;)
[17:44] <vegombrei> hi can i install the netbook edition on my laptop? whats the difference anyway?
[17:44] <aleks> it is possible to share a internet connection on the same interface ?
[17:44] <bitplane> hrmph, still can't find these buttons. I went through each device in lspci and none of them are the buttons. any ideas where to look next?
[17:44] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, so make the 4th partition Extended and install ubuntu on the logical partitions in the extended area.
[17:44] <xangua> vegombrei: yes you can, the interface of UNE is optimized for netbook = a little screen
[17:45] <abhijit> now we need factoied explaining diff between une & desktop edition
[17:45] <Stiwanoff1> duffydack, can that possibly be a recovery partition?
[17:45] <Stiwanoff1> if it's called Windows Vista loader?
[17:45] <soreau> shortlord: check gconf key /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager
[17:45] <vegombrei> xangua thanks bro
[17:45] <arvind_khadri>  hi, I needed some help with installing jffnms, I get an error in the error log of apache telling that jffnms class is not found, in the config file.
[17:45] <duffydack> Stiwanoff,  are you the only 1 who has installed any OS on this machine
[17:46] <shortlord> soreau: I don't want to set awesome as the default for every gnome session, just as the window manager for this GDM entry
[17:47] <switch10_> I did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-netbook* to switch from UNR to the desktop version.  when a window is maximized, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons are missing.  I have a feeling I need to edit something in gconf-editor, but I can't seem to find the right setting.
[17:47] <soreau> shortlord: Can you make it kill compiz and start awesome in a script?
[17:47] <aleks> i want to connect my wii on the Internet. I have a USB/Ethernet connector plugging on my switch and my pc too. My pc acceed to Internet via a web interface...
[17:47] <shortlord> soreau: that's a good idea, I'll try that
[17:47] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, you should have one that says Windows 7 Loader (its labelled System Reserved in ubuntu) and then you have Win7 main partition..
[17:48] <aleks> how can i share me internet connection to my wii on the same interface/ same network ? it is posssible ?
[17:49] <duffydack> Stiwanoff, the other one I dont know what it is, so I guess if your pc is from a shop/dealer then it might be a recovery/backup partition.  How big is it?
[17:50] <Stiwanoff1> 13 GB
[17:50] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, sounds like something like that then...its your pc though so I`m not gonna put my neck on the line and say it is/isnt :)
[17:51] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, when you boot up do you have a menu to boot recovery/diagnostic/backup ?
[17:51] <Stiwanoff1> I've got memory test
[17:51] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, what make/model is it?
[17:51] <Stiwanoff1> ubuntu
[17:51] <Stiwanoff1> make/model of what?
[17:52] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, no I mean when you press something like F2 or F12 or DEL at boot
[17:52] <Stiwanoff1> yes I've got one
[17:52] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, make and model of your pc
[17:52] <Stiwanoff1> packard bell easynote tj65
[17:54] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  well, if you have the choice to boot to a recovery or diagnostic environment then I`d guess its exactly that...  make a full backup if you are going to delete it, otherwise just install ubuntu as normal, using the extra space.
[17:54] <Stiwanoff1> I've already installed it
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> because there was an option in the installer to install it equal to windwos
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> parallel
[17:55] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  oh... ?  so what is the question again ? lol
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> both windows and ubuntu have got 320 GB of my hdd
[17:55] <Stiwanoff1> but I want the systems to have just as much space as they need
[17:56] <Stiwanoff1> and to have a partition for storage where I can put my files and use them with both systems
[17:56] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, oh so its resized windows partition to use as space...
[17:56] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, you can mount the win7 partition in ubuntu and read/write to it.
[17:56] <kuttan_> Stiwanoff1 put your files on the cloud
[17:57] <Stiwanoff1> and the other way round?
[17:57] <Stiwanoff1> oh
[17:57] <lucariello> ciao a tutti
[17:57] <Stiwanoff1> I guess that makes not much sense^
[17:57] <ibolmo> i've edited the /etc/fstab so that acl and user_xattr is mounted on reboot
[17:57] <ibolmo> http://paste.ly/6Wt
[17:57] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, nope, only 1 way....o use the extra space and make a storage partition??
[17:57] <ibolmo> but after a reboot mount shows that only the ext2|ext3 are mounted
[17:58] <Ward|> can i dim the display of my laptop when the internal keyboard is messed up?
[17:58] <ibolmo> can someone see if i made a mistake?
[17:58] <ServerTech> god, i forgot the show all processes command again
[17:58] <ibolmo> ps -aux i think
[17:58] <ServerTech> oh
[17:58] <ServerTech> i got ix
[17:58] <ServerTech> ps aux
[17:58] <ServerTech> thx
[17:58] <RedNifre> Hi!
[17:58] <FloodBot3> ServerTech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <RedNifre> Is there an easy way how to create a video DVD with a simple menu that can be viewed in a normal DVD player on a TV?
[17:59] <Stiwanoff1> yes
[17:59] <Stiwanoff1> I wanted to do that
[17:59] <Stiwanoff1> but I already have 4 primary partitions
[18:00] <Ward|> RedNifre, http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Make_a_video_DVD
[18:00] <RedNifre> thank you
[18:00] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, ok...I guess boot to win7, remove the ubuntu partitions, resize it and reinstall
[18:01] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
 does he have scsi drive ? sda?
[18:02] <duffydack> kuttan_,  its sda.
[18:02] <Stiwanoff1> sry whats pastebin?
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1>    Gerät  boot.     Anfang        Ende     Blöcke   Id  System
[18:03] <duffydack> !pastebin > Stiwanoff1
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda1               1        1530    12288000   27  Unbekannt
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda2   *        1530        1543      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda3            1543       47193   366685330    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda4           47193       77826   246053889    5  Erweiterte
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> /dev/sda5           47193       76579   236041216   83  Linux
[18:03] <FloodBot3> Stiwanoff1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <Stiwanoff1> sorry lol
[18:03] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, ok so from that sda1 is your recovery partition, sda2 is win7 boot and ada3 is win7
[18:04] <mgolisch> anyone able to help me with pulseaudio?
[18:04] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  and you have an extended, so you are good to make more partitions.
[18:04] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, resize the ubuntu partition then, and make a fat32 partition.
[18:04] <Stiwanoff1> ok
[18:05] <Anuovis> my system seems to be a bit unstable during shutdowns and reboots (programs hanging up, sometimes the system stops booting). Does anybody have any advice what could I do? Or where to start looking for problems?
[18:05] <Stiwanoff1> and can I also resize the win7 partition?
[18:05] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, was there supposed to be an sda6 in there (swap) ?
[18:05] <aleks> how to share a Internet connection when the Internet access and the node, who wants to access Internet, are on the samed network ?
[18:05] <Stiwanoff1> yes
[18:05] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, k.  floodbot got it :)
[18:06] <Toushirou> vortei
[18:06] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1,  personally what I`d do is boot to win7, remove ubuntu, and resize your win7 partition.. win7 does have a good disk management tool
[18:07] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, then reinstall ubuntu how you need.. just make sure you dont just say yes to default partition.
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> ok
[18:07] <aleks> T_T
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> I think I know what to do now
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> thank you
[18:07] <Stiwanoff1> you were very helpful
[18:07] <duffydack> Stiwanoff1, leave some room for a fat32 at the end.
[18:08] <u8untu> i cant install ubuntu .. it gives me an error ... " No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! " ... i tried to install it from CD and it gives me an error with some log .. from docume~1\temp ...
[18:09] <duffydack> damn, I forgot.. does win7 reboot to resize the partition?
[18:10] <duffydack> ah hell I hope not or else it wont work after he`d removed the ubuntu partition :'(
[18:10] <ibolmo> is there a reason why after a reboot ssh connections and even logging in locally takes a "long" time?
[18:10] <ibolmo> ssh connectiosn are timing out as well.
[18:10] <kuttan_> duffydack :P
[18:10] <ilovefairuz> u8untu: did you verify the ISO image before burning the cd?
[18:10] <sinurge> duffydack, yup
[18:10]  * duffydack gets a new identity and moves to different country.
[18:10] <ilovefairuz> !verify | u8untu
[18:10] <u8untu> ilovefairuz i have only windows.. i can`t.. i dont know how :D
[18:11] <ilovefairuz> u8untu: read the above links
[18:11] <noel> hi baby
[18:11] <duffydack> for some reason I seem to think it resizes while inside windows....
[18:11] <sinurge> u8untu, there are windows versions of md5sum checking sw
[18:11] <Guest84284> are girl
[18:11] <u8untu> :)
[18:11] <sinurge> duffydack, lol u think wrong
[18:12] <duffydack> damnit.
[18:12] <atxq> I just installed a package from source and now want to remove it. how can I do this?
[18:12] <ikonia> atxq: manually remove each file it installed, you should not install from source unless you know what you are doing and how to manage it
[18:12] <duffydack> nevermind, he`ll be back using livecd and i`ll get him to restore grub :)
[18:13] <ilovefairuz> ibolmo: i think the sshd performs lazy initialization (when trying to connect to it the first time after a reboot) but after that it usually responds pretty fast
[18:13] <ibolmo> why would I get a "Login timed out after 60 seconds."?
[18:13] <duffydack> er I mean windows mbr.
[18:13] <ibolmo> oops forgot to prepend ilovefairuz to that last sentence.
[18:13] <ibolmo> :D
[18:13] <atxq> is that the only way to remove the package?
[18:13] <ikonia> atxq: that's how you do it because it's not packaged
[18:14] <ilovefairuz> ibolmo: i haven't had that happen before, only initial slow downs
[18:14] <atxq> is there a way to know how many files were created when installed?
[18:15] <ikonia> atxq: read the makefile, or log the output of make install
[18:15] <ilovefairuz> atxq: ikonia: what command did you use to install it? sudo make install? if so, try: sudo make uninstall  .. in the same directory you installed it from
[18:15] <atul> what is meaning of 'v = $ (( $$ % $b )) ' in shell scripting? where 'v' and 'b' are variable
[18:16] <atxq> yeah, I used make, make install
[18:16] <atxq> did not see an uninstall file in the dir
[18:16] <ilovefairuz> atxq: cd to the directory and do: sudo make uninstall
[18:16] <ilovefairuz> it's not a separate file
[18:16] <ikonia> ilovefairuz: make uninstall does not always install, and is dangerous if the libraries have re-placed system libraries
[18:16] <ikonia> do NOT do make uninstall blindly
[18:16] <Ward|> how do i dim my laptop display without the keyboard (fn key) please?
[18:17] <duffydack> Ward|,  brightness applet (add to panel)
[18:17] <ilovefairuz> ikonia: USUALLY no system libraries are replaced, that's rather rare
[18:17] <Ward|> duffydack, thanx
[18:17] <ikonia> ilovefairuz: nonsense, you don't know a.) what he's installed b.) what his --prefix was c.) what's linked against the libraries it installed
[18:17] <arzhar> guys, is there a way to record what fps did i get with certain application or game ?
[18:17] <atxq> so I get the following message "rm -f /usr/local/bin/lkl"
[18:18] <jklehm> hello,  I'm trying to install 64bit ubuntu 10.04 from a usbstick...installer seems to be stuck at 78%...is this normal?  it's been 10 minutes with no progress
[18:18] <atxq> that is it?
[18:18] <csis> what is the easiest way to make bootable usb on ubuntU ?
[18:18] <atxq> I was expecting more
[18:18] <karmic-koala> Hi guys whilst trying to connect to my own samba share using smbclient -L localhost -N  ; I have no problems with that but smbclient -L my_ip -N fails with Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED, any thoughts
[18:18] <ikonia> jklehm: not normal no
[18:18] <brorjonas> Luckybackup or flyback?
[18:18] <jklehm> csis: administration -> make startup disk
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> atxq: that's normal
[18:18] <ikonia> atxq: it's an application you installed, you need to find out what it installed
[18:18] <csis> jklehm, thank you
[18:19] <csis> jklehm, though, I don't have that
[18:19] <csis> Under administration
[18:19] <Ward|> duffydack, thanx thats perfect :) i can just click it and then scroll
[18:19] <jklehm> csis:  hrmm that's where it is on my 10.04
[18:20] <u8untu> i dont know how to use the md5sum
[18:20] <u8untu> in windows
[18:20] <csis> jklehm, oh I've found it.
[18:20] <jklehm> csis: "Startup Disk Creator"
[18:20] <ilovefairuz> ikonia: neither assuming that packages replace system libraries is sensible.. usually make uninstall works well (and --prefix is taken into account)
[18:20] <ikonia> u8untu: ask in ##windows
[18:20] <ikonia> ilovefairuz: I didn't assume, that's why I said he needs to research what it installed
[18:20] <Ale_> can anyone here describe how you would have a ssd drive for the os and program, while using a hdd for files?
[18:21] <ikonia> Ale_: install ubuntu to the SSD drive, and put a mount point such as /data on the second disk
[18:21] <ikonia> Ale_: that way your OS runs from the SSD, and all your info is in /data on the second disk, or maybe use /home for your personal data on the second disk
[18:21] <rockhopper> yh
[18:22] <rockhopper> but there wont be much of a difference in performance i guess
[18:22] <jklehm> Ale_: id leave your home/user on the ssd, but have the Videos, Pictures folders on the other drive
[18:22] <rockhopper> coz a hdd's sufficient and fast enough to access system files
[18:23] <Ale_> alright
[18:23] <jefinc> what do I use for a remote desktop SERVER?
[18:23] <rockhopper> Ale_, install everything on ssd and mount your hdd for the data
[18:24] <jklehm> jefinc: doesnt gnome have abuilt in remote desktop vnc server
[18:24] <Ale_> cool, thought it was more complicated than that
[18:24] <rockhopper> ssd's difference can be found when copying or reading large files
[18:24] <switch10_> jefinc: the ip of the machine you want to connect to
[18:24] <|Twilo|> hello, I use ubuntu JeOS with lxde-core. how can I change the keyboard layout with the keyboard layout switcher applet in the task bar or is there another way to set the keyboard layout in the gui?
[18:25] <jefinc> jklehm: is it automatically running?
[18:26] <Poul|Raider> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth1 --dport 4000 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:3389   i used this, but somehow its not forwarding requests coming in on eth1:4000 to the pc at <IP_ADDRESS>.3389
[18:26] <switch10_> jefinc: it may be automatically detected if its a machine on your network
[18:26] <amokpaule> Hello, i have an nvidia card and i use the nvidia drivers, i also have 2 screens. In twinview windows get now expand over the 2 screens can i set it that when a window is maximized that it will only be streched over 1 screen , windows like?
[18:26] <rooks> spd-say doesnt ouptput sound, whats wrong?
[18:26] <jefinc> switch10_: how do I edit the settings of the server?
[18:26] <rockhopper> amokpaule, yeah
[18:27] <rockhopper> use extended desktop option, not the twinview
[18:27] <switch10_> jefinc: edit the settings of the server?  do you mean like set a static IP?
[18:27] <amokpaule> Can i find that in nvidia-settings?
[18:27] <rockhopper> yeah
[18:27] <jefinc> switch10_: to setup a username/port etc
[18:28] <rockhopper> amokpaule, i think its in the advanced settings of nvidia-settings window
[18:28] <Zoffix> So, wanted to tell original people that my Blue Trace mouse started to work after I rebooted...
[18:28] <switch10_> jefinc: you are trying to VNC to a machine on your network via system>prefs>remote desktop correct?
[18:29] <kn100> is there a way to check is a process is running and if it isn't to run it
[18:29] <jefinc> switch10_: ah that's where the preferences are ..... hah k sorry, didn't really look :\
[18:31] <Guest84284> hibaby
[18:32] <Leemp> What is the linux command to locate the directory of a command/exec? (eg: what is the dir of python. what is the dir of apt-get, etc.)
[18:32] <MichealH> !ot | Guest84284
[18:32] <amokpaule> rockhopper: Ty
[18:32] <amokpaule> but i cant find the setting^^
[18:33] <rockhopper> I'm using the extended desktop setting on my home pc
[18:33] <WJW> Remark: every version of openoffice.org (OOo) calc (the spreadsheet program) tends to crash.
[18:33] <|Twilo|> Leemp: which command
[18:33] <rockhopper> in nvidia screen setup, there shud be anoption for twin monitor setting, in it you can find the other option
[18:34] <WJW> Remark: A .xls file saved by gnumeric can break OOo.
[18:34] <rockhopper> try it, it'll solve the problem, but its been long since i've tried out the setting
[18:34] <amokpaule> ok ty
[18:35] <rockhopper> is anyone using UNR here?
[18:35] <MichealH> rockhopper: Nope
[18:35] <MichealH> But I will try to help :P
[18:35] <kn100> is there a way to check is a process is running and if it isn't to run it
[18:35] <rockhopper> I'm using UNR on my netbook(lenovo s10-3), and my brightness button's not working.
[18:36] <MichealH> kn100: Look in System Monitor
[18:36] <rockhopper> But it works fine on windows
[18:36] <kn100> MichealH, automated
[18:36] <rockhopper> I've tried googling, but i can only find questions unanswered
[18:36] <Feroy> does anyone know how to view registry files? like getting to hkey_current_user tso i can open some progrems with opengl?
[18:36] <MichealH> rockhopper: Is there a pannel applet for brightness?
[18:37] <MichealH> Feroy: Registry doesnt work like that in Ubuntu
[18:37] <WebDawg> Why should I install ubuntu netbook edition instead of the reg?
[18:37] <rockhopper> MichealH, Sorry i didnt get you!!
[18:37] <Feroy> ok, then how to i open a progrem in opengl mode?
[18:37] <yy> I have a LCD connected to my laptop, using Ubuntu, can I use two screens as seperate desktop  ?
[18:37] <xangua> WebDawg: because you use a netbook¿
[18:37] <rockhopper> I cant control brightness in any setting
[18:37] <zzzed> kn100, e.g. for gdm use ps aux | grep -e gdm to see if gdm is running. to start use sudo service gdm start
[18:37] <WebDawg> I want to enable encryption so should I not use the alternative?
[18:38] <MichealH> yy: Of course!
[18:38] <WebDawg> xangua, but what are the REAL differences?
[18:38] <Ward|> Feroy, you're not making any sense :s
[18:38] <yy> MichealH: how ?
[18:38] <kn100> zzzed, the entire process has to be automated
[18:38] <MichealH> yy: I dont know but I know iths possible
[18:38] <rockhopper> MichealH,  There's no option or panel to control brightness here
[18:38] <kn100> basically if process isn't running then run it
[18:38] <Feroy> ok i have a program (warcraft III0 that uses direct x, i need to run it in opengl mode
[18:38] <Quantum_Ion> How do you get rid of gnome-keyring ?
[18:38] <yy> :(
[18:38] <MichealH> rockhopper: Ahh
[18:38] <Ward|> Feroy, so you are using wine?
[18:38] <xangua> WebDawg: UNE has a better interface for netbooks = little screen
[18:39] <Quantum_Ion> gnome keyring is annoying ?
[18:39] <Feroy> i installed it with wine, and i read somewhere that wine comes with regedit but i cannot find it
[18:39] <ankit> hi guys
[18:39] <WebDawg> How is the interface differet xangua ?
[18:39] <rockhopper> MichealH, I'm thinking that its not recognising the specific button may be!!
[18:39] <weed37> hey guys looking for some help in repairing a sata laptop hdd that has some bas sectors
[18:39] <weed37> bad*
[18:39] <rockhopper> but i'm not sure whats wrong
[18:39] <MichealH> rockhopper: Is there keyboard drivers for your netbook?
[18:39] <MichealH> You *need* them
[18:40] <xangua> WebDawg: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[18:40] <WJW> Weed37, "man badblocks"
[18:40] <yy> I have a LCD connected to my laptop, using Ubuntu, can I use two screens as seperate desktop  ?
[18:40] <rockhopper> MichealH, My volume button, and other media buttons like sleep and music buttons work fine
[18:40] <ankit> i recieve a long beeping sounds at startup,its ram problem,what to do,i have a good ram bought 2 years agao
[18:40] <Ward|> Feroy, just run regedit and it should start wine i think (i don't have wine on this installation)
[18:40] <MichealH> !patience | yy
[18:40] <MichealH> Hmmm...
[18:40] <Feroy> thats just it i cant find regedit
[18:40] <kn100> is there a way to check is a process is running and if it isn't to run it
[18:40] <rockhopper> MichealH,  Only the brightness buttons're not working..
[18:40] <yy> :<<
[18:41] <weed37> yes WJW
[18:41] <philinux> ankit: go to motherborads website and check out what the beep codes mean
[18:41] <MichealH> rockhopper: That is weird indeed
[18:41] <rockhopper> yeah..
[18:41] <dogmatic69> can i create a "shortcut" to some folder?
[18:41]  * MichealH seconds philinux
[18:41] <dogmatic69> or just to files?
[18:41] <yy> where is the display section in Ubuntu ?
[18:41] <ankit> it says ram problem
[18:41] <MichealH> dogmatic69: Yeah, a Symb Link
[18:41]  * philinux omnipotent
[18:41] <MichealH> But dont ask me how
[18:41] <Ward|> Feroy, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1177
[18:42] <WJW> weed37, can you back your files up to another disk?
[18:42] <weed37> hdd is formatted
[18:42] <Feroy> ive been there
[18:42] <zzzed> dogmatic69, man ln
[18:42] <weed37> to fat 32 WJW
[18:42] <Feroy> and they say to fix it i need to run in open gl but i dont know how!
[18:42] <dogmatic69> i was doing sudo ls -s /var/www/ /home/dogmatic69/websites
[18:43] <Ward|> Feroy, there's also #winehq
[18:43] <dogmatic69> does /home/dogmatic69/websites need to exist?
[18:43] <WJW> weed37, maybe use cpio to back your files to one file on the fat32.  then use badblocks to map your bad blocks, and then make a new file system that goes around them using the mkfs for your preferred file-system type.
[18:43] <MichealH> dogmatic69: Yes
[18:43] <yy> I dont have System->Preferences->Display :<
[18:44] <EbanSoul> system / preferences / monitor i think
[18:44] <weed37> ty WJW
[18:44] <rockhopper> MichealH, I found this page, but have no idea of any solution given there https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/538256
[18:44] <zzzed> dogmatic69, no it does not need to exist, use sudo ln -s /var/www /home/dogmatic69/websites
[18:44] <b43confused> hi.  is it possible to change my ext4 partitions to ext2 without damaging the data.
[18:45] <dogmatic69> zzzed: that is what i did...
[18:45] <dogmatic69> ls: cannot access /home/dogmatic69/websites: No such file or directory
[18:45] <zzzed> dogmatic69 the command is "ln" not "ls"
[18:45] <dogmatic69> lol
[18:45] <dogmatic69> thanks
[18:48] <WJW> b43confused, do you have another disk to which you could back up your files?
[18:49] <b43confused> not easily.
[18:49] <b43confused> so i would have to back up everything on the disk and then reinstall?
[18:49] <WJW> b43confused, not sure whether there's another way.  Maybe just changing some settings with debugfs would make the ext4 fs behave like ext2.
[18:50] <Leemp> |Twilo|: Thanks! I almost replied to you with "That's what i am asking." because i though you were asking me which command i was talking about xD
[18:50] <MichealH> rockhopper: Refresh the page :)
[18:50] <WJW> b43confused, running a system without backups is risky anyway.
[18:50] <rockhopper> MichealH, err?? I didnt get you