[19:59] <tingle> because ubuntu it prolly asking much from my notebook it gets a fan accleration every min or so cant i just turn the rpm from my notebook fan higher for ever?
[20:00] <trask> im trying to make LAN boot with bootp and tftp, my client machine gives me PXE-e32: tftp open timeout  .. do i need to start tftp and in that case what would the command look like?
[20:00] <stylzP> xirov:  you need to remove it from windows via remove device.. dont know if you can bypass that
[20:00] <supremea> help pidgin says connecting and stays like that
[20:01] <bobertdos> comatsu: After you've made changes and saved them, in the terminal, type: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[20:01] <comatsu> bobertdos thanks
[20:01] <xirov> stylzP, so i have to find a windows pc, and remove it properly there? then it should work?
[20:01] <stylzP> yes, the error message says the same imho
[20:01] <pogay> trask:  there is a dhcp-server somewhere?
[20:02] <Atomicsunset> what is the name of the desktop app with all the buttons at the bottom in large icons?
[20:02] <bobertdos> supremea: It probably is just having difficulty connecting to a service, that happens a lot. Disable the protocols it can't connect to to make that go away.
[20:02] <supremea> gnome-dcitionary isnt working wither
[20:02] <stylzP> AtomicMongoose:  avant-window-navigator
[20:02] <trask> pogay: yes from my ISP
[20:02] <supremea> bobertdos: gnome-dcitionary isnt working wither
[20:03] <stylzP> and google for it and install it from other repos
[20:03] <Atomicsunset> thank you
[20:03] <bobertdos> supremea: maybe you're having network troubles on your end
[20:03] <chunda> hi guys. I've modified my xorg.conf file in order to work with dual screens, but i had no success. By the way, my video card is a mobility radeon 9000
[20:03] <gueneal> hey guys got a question... Is there a way to set up a partition that is considered ram? not just swap but trick the computer into thinking it is physical ram?
[20:04] <supremea> bobertos: i can us firefox and pop on evolution, that's it
[20:04] <chunda> anyone can help? i'm trying at google, but still have nothing
[20:04] <pogay> trask:  I believe that the connection is buillt, when the client makes a dhclient request
[20:04] <javagamer> gueneal: Not sure if it's possible, but I'm curious what you're trying to do.
[20:04] <der|kunstler> is there any program with a GUI to assign icons to mimetypes ?
[20:05] <benmachine> hi, for the last couple of days I've been having trouble with SSH, can anyone tell me where I might get support over IRC for openssh
[20:05] <benmachine> (I'm thinking not here because it's too loud for me :P)
[20:05] <supremea> bobertdos: i can us firefox and pop on evolution, that's it
[20:05] <compzxl> can someone help me get my book NAS detected in ubuntu?
[20:05] <bunz> support for irc for openssh? what do you mean
[20:05] <trask> pogay: when i boot the machine i get client mac addr, guid, client ip ( wich is the right one ) mask, dhcp ip : <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS> then that previous mentioned error
[20:05] <benmachine> bunz: *over* irc
[20:05] <benmachine> i.e. a channel where I can ask stuff
[20:06] <bunz> oh why don't you just ask it here :p
[20:06] <gueneal> javagamer: I'm trying to increase the ram on my ps3 so that i can run qemu... i got a 10000 rpm hd for it and all now just need to pick someone's brain to set it up :)
[20:06] <der|kunstler> go to openbsd, they are the creators of ssh
[20:06] <benmachine> eh, ok
[20:06] <Atomicsunset> is there an ubuntu for pocketpcs?
[20:06] <ompaul> benmachine, what exactly do you want to do with ssh?
[20:06] <pogay> trask
[20:06] <benmachine> ompaul: connect to anything
[20:06] <benmachine> at all
[20:06] <pogay> trask:  w
[20:06] <benmachine> other than localhost
[20:06] <bobertdos> gueneal: Oh, you're a Home Brewer, huh?
[20:06] <gueneal> the ps3 is limited to 256 ram. need more than that...
[20:07] <ompaul> ben ssh -C<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:07] <gueneal> trying :)
[20:07] <pogay> trask: to whicht maschine you like to connect?
[20:07] <trask> its my asus eee 900 i try to connect to this ubuntu 8.04
[20:07] <NoTownKasper> Probably a stupid question here, but I switched from gnome screensaver over to xscreensaver...and after having to hard reboot a dozen times thanks to freezing screensavers, I tried to switch back by uninstalling xscreensaver via synaptic, and reinstalling gnome...obviously I've missed a step, as I can't find any way to get into the gnome screensaver selection screen...any suggestions?
[20:07] <bunz> benmachine: first of all can you ping that machine
[20:08] <benmachine> erm, hold on a sec
[20:08] <gueneal> bobertdos: don't have it totally yet... still locked out by hyperviser so no rsx and graphics
[20:08] <bobertdos> gueneal: Well, I don't think there's a way to do exactly that. Setting up actual swap partitions is the fastest way to go. There is, however, a way to use a file as extra swap space...........
[20:08] <benmachine> but, if I am understanding ssh -vvv correctly, then yes
[20:08] <pogay> trask . I think the client makes a request, und your Router or what replies.
[20:08] <compzxl> can someone help me get my book NAS detected in ubuntu? its connected through a network cable, maybe thats why its not deteced as a unit?
[20:08] <benmachine> I can in fact make a successful connction and authenticate fine
[20:08] <pogay> trask: I guess the other installation should reply
[20:08] <benmachine> but somewhere in the process of opening an interactive session it just ja
[20:09] <benmachine> er
[20:09] <bobertdos> gueneal: but I'm afraid that's the best I can suggest.
[20:09] <benmachine> hangs
[20:09] <blumm> hello
[20:09] <piero> Why my own linux 2.6.26 (compiled with make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers and the .config file got from /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic) results in 744MB on /lib/modules if the 2.6.24-19-generic ubuntu's pre-compiled have a bit more than a hundred megabytes ?
[20:09] <blumm> can anybody help me with gproftpd ?
[20:09] <benmachine> I fiddled around inside it and some call to select() isn't returning
[20:10] <Soopa> !conky
[20:10] <Soopa> are questions about conky allowed here?
[20:10] <gueneal> thanks anyway...
[20:10] <Flannel> Soopa: yes
[20:10] <gueneal> :)
[20:10] <NoTownKasper> Probably a stupid question here, but I switched from gnome screensaver over to xscreensaver...and after having to hard reboot a dozen times thanks to freezing screensavers, I tried to switch back by uninstalling xscreensaver via synaptic, and reinstalling gnome...obviously I've missed a step, as I can't find any way to get into the gnome screensaver selection screen...any suggestions?
[20:10] <Soopa> Okay, conky is disappearing when I click my desktop... is there a way to stop it from doing that?
[20:10] <blumm> how to configure gproftpd when behind a router? i forwarded and masqueraded the stuff but i dont get a connect :(
[20:10] <trask> pogay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet im following this guide, if its not tftp, then is it the image i put in /var/lib/tftpboot thats not ok?
[20:11] <Tarrence> Is there a Ubuntu Server web based management GUI available? Or a Mac OS X application?
[20:11] <SeveredCross> Tarrence: Um, you can try Webmin.
[20:11] <SeveredCross> It's pretty good for a webinterface.
[20:12] <stylzP> Tarrence:  and theres ssh
[20:12] <stylzP> sry gui
[20:12] <pogay> trask: the other dhcp server may interfere
[20:12] <Soopa> also, when I set on_bottom, I get "no such configuration: 'on_bottom'"
[20:12] <Soopa> has that option been removed?
[20:12] <alexander> hola
[20:12] <benmachine> ssh -vvv gets me as far as debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
[20:12] <benmachine> and then nothing happens
[20:13] <alexander> hello
[20:13] <TEN> Something strange happening here on Ubuntu 8.04: For some reason, I can only enter text in this (Pidgin) window and change tabs here - even its menu bar is locked, and so are all other windows. Anybody seen something like this before and knows a way to release the rest of the GUI other than bei Ctrl-Backspace?
[20:13] <tingle> because ubuntu it prolly asking much from my notebook it gets a fan accleration every min or so cant i just turn the rpm from my notebook fan higher for ever?
[20:14] <kenkku_> TEN: can you change to other programs with alt+tab?
[20:14] <pogay> trask: I think you have to disable dhcp on this <IP_ADDRESS>. machine,  or is this your server
[20:14] <integrand> my second life crashes when I open the search window
[20:14] <Sirex> integrand, any output when it's run from console ?
[20:14] <NoTownKasper> Try running SL in a window, at a lower graphics setting.
[20:15] <Atomicsunset> can the zune run through ubuntu?
[20:15] <trask> pogay: i have a linksys wireless box that acts as dhcp for my LAN, its what controls the IP adresses the LAN machines get
[20:15] <NoTownKasper> Probably a stupid question here, but I switched from gnome screensaver over to xscreensaver...and after having to hard reboot a dozen times thanks to freezing screensavers, I tried to switch back by uninstalling xscreensaver via synaptic, and reinstalling gnome...obviously I've missed a step, as I can't find any way to get into the gnome screensaver selection screen...any suggestions?
[20:16] <PucKid> AtomicMongoose: MTP devices do run through ubuntu, and ipods also, so i'd say that yes, zune runs also
[20:16] <kenkku_> NoTownKasper: is there no screensaver entry in system -> preferences?
[20:16] <NoTownKasper> None.
[20:16] <PucKid> woops
[20:16] <NoTownKasper> kenkku_:  None. :\
[20:16] <PucKid> Atomicsunset:  MTP devices do run through ubuntu, and ipods also, so i'd say that yes, zune runs also
[20:17] <kenkku_> NoTownKasper: check if gnome-screensaver is installed
[20:17] <phrakk> my audio suddenly stopped working yesterday when i click on the volume control is says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[20:17] <Atomicsunset> ok, how do i port the zune software to linux?
[20:17] <NoTownKasper> kenkku_: Synaptic says it is.
[20:18] <floreal> hi, i' m new here
[20:18] <integrand> Sirex, quite long error message
[20:18] <floreal> i have saome questions
[20:19] <floreal> which is the best electronic circuit simulation program for linux
[20:19] <kenkku_> NoTownKasper: try opening gnome-screensaver-preferences manually (alt+f2)
[20:19] <Sirex> i suspect the first few lines will be the meat of the matter
[20:19] <jayson> Hello Folks, Can I run 64-bit application on 32-bit ubuntu ?
[20:19] <integrand> Sirex, the very last line says 'unclean shutdown'
[20:19] <NoTownKasper> kenkku_: Aha! Bingo. Thanks. I'll add that under system>preferences right now. Thanks!
[20:19] <kenkku_> NoTownKasper: just a quick extra question
[20:20] <kenkku_> NoTownKasper: did you at any point remove gnome-screensaver?
[20:20] <Sirex> unfortunatly ive forgotten my second life password, or i've try to reproduce it.
[20:20] <Sirex> id*
[20:20] <blumm> how to configure gproftpd when behind a router? i forwarded and masqueraded the stuff but i dont get a connect :(
[20:20] <trask> pogay: both machines use the same dhcp function
[20:20] <xTheGoat121x> Does anyone in here have a dark theme on Ubuntu?
[20:20] <integrand> Sirex, you want the whole message?
[20:20] <integrand> I will send query if you want
[20:21] <piero> How to know what is important to check when compiling my own linux kernel ?
[20:21] <Voxicles> so this may be a ridiculously dumb question, but why can I not view any of my .jpg's that I copied over from windoze?
[20:21] <Matthew12> can I use gparted to format my whole computer
[20:21] <Sirex> integrand, use http://pastebin.com/
[20:21] <NoTownKasper> kenkku_:  No, I just installed xscreensaver over the top of it and dissabled gnome-screensaver, but I figured reinstalling via synaptic would fix the whole 'I can't get into the preferences' problem I was having.
[20:21] <Voxicles> Mathew12, yes, you can
[20:22] <kenkku_> NoTownKasper: yeah, I was just wondering why the entry from system->preferences got removed
[20:22] <pogay> trask:  it's correct that linksys gives your client the adress? it has to connect to your server
[20:22] <metalpres> is there any easy fix as to why ubuntu takes like 4x longer to boot than xp?  it takes well over a minute for ubuntu to boot on my box, but xp takes like 15secs max on the same box
[20:22] <piero> Matthew12, oh yeah, but remember you can't apply changes to any mounted partition
[20:22] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: I changed it to work with xscreensaver, and, in a fit of stupidity, deleted it manually when i uninstalled xscreensaver. :D
[20:22] <Sirex> piero, dmesg, lspci, lsmod are useful. make sure you get the motherboard and filesystem stuff in. -- if in doubt, build things as modules and see what's loaded.
[20:23] <integrand> Sirex, http://pastebin.com/d28d9edc7
[20:23] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: ah, so no bug there :) glad I could help
[20:23] <trask> pogay: yes, my isp hotline told me how to set it up. works for all 4 machines
[20:23] <Avalanche> hey people, i want to install ubuntu alongside with windows. I have one free partition, and i want to install the ubuntu there, without formating the other partitions.
[20:23] <Matthew12> piero, what do you mean?
[20:23] <Avalanche> can sb tell me what should i do?
[20:23] <pogay> trask:  yes of cource you need it for your LAN, but it interferes your client server connection
[20:24] <histo_> metalpres: look at the syslog and dmesg for stuff thats failing.
[20:24] <Matthew12> Piero, I'm only running hardy right now. I want to wipe my computer, install xp resize it and reinstall hardy, so I can go back to a dual boot.
[20:24] <histo_> metalpres: that is abnormally long.
[20:24] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: One more quick question if you don't mind? You happen to remember the package name for the extra screensavers? The ones commonly reccomended to install when switching to xscreensaver? Half of them crash my system.
[20:24] <sugi> " bad superblock on /dev/sdb1"  what does that mean?  I got that after I tried sudo mount -a
[20:24] <pogay> trask: a dhcp request is answered by any dhcpserver in the subnet
[20:25] <Voxicles> Is there anything special I need to install to view .jpg's that I imported form windoze?
[20:25] <trask> pogay: oh you mean the ubuntu machine also tries to act as dhcp?
[20:25] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: would that be xscreensaver-gl-extra or xscreensaver-data-extra?
[20:25] <piero> Sirex, Matthew12: well, I made my own linux-2.6.26 from kernel.org (using the same .config from ubuntu's generic pre-compiled) but I got a giant image with more than 900MB, so I wanna remove any code I don't need
[20:25] <floreal> what is the best electronic circuit simulation program for linux
[20:25] <metalpres> histo_: where can I find those 2 things?
[20:25] <Sirex> integrand, looks like the useful stuff is in debug_info.log
[20:25] <histo_> metalpres: well dmesg you can just type in a terminal I recomend typing dmesg | more  syslog can be found in/var/log
[20:25] <BBin> Need some help with Xorg.conf... How do I enable the 8-bit mode so wine can use it?
[20:25] <Sirex> but its a beta client, which sounds dodgy. :-/
[20:25] <legend2440> Voxicles: right click a jpg >properties>open with
[20:25] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: Possibly...though when i try to unsinstall those, synaptic tries to tell me it's going to uninstall ubuntu desktop. And that kinda worries me.
[20:26] <Matthew12> I want to wipe my computer of everything (I'm only using hardy) then reinstall xp then hardy again can I do this with gparted?
[20:26] <integrand> Sirex, you want that also?
[20:26] <pogay> trask:  you want to setup a connection to a server. You make a dhcp-request to that server. handshaking begins.
[20:26] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone know how to fix FF3 with dark themes?
[20:26] <NoTownKasper> Matthew12: Yes you can. That's how I did it.
[20:27] <Voxicles> Legend, I keep getting : Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x00 0x00
[20:27] <pogay> trask: And I think not the linksys should answer.
[20:27] <dpic> anybody know if there's a repos i can add for openoffice 3?
[20:27] <Sirex> yea, but from that output log i dont know if its going to be an error on your machine.
[20:27] <Matthew12> thanks notownkasper
[20:27] <trask> pogay: so what needs to be changed to make this work?
[20:27] <integrand> I've looked at it
[20:27] <dvollet> #wag
[20:27] <integrand> nothing related to error
[20:28] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: well, I have xscreensaver-data and xscreensaver-gl installed by default and I've never installed xscreensaver
[20:28] <pogay> trask: for the test I think you have to deactivate the linksys. And check wether the server answers.
[20:28] <Pedrolito> the fonts for kde apps look ugly. Is there a way to make them look the same as the fonts in gtk apps?
[20:28] <legend2440> Voxicles: somehow they may have gotten corrupted when copying over from windows. i don't have windows so not sure
[20:28] <pogay> may be you have to start a dhcpserver on your server.
[20:29] <Pedrolito> I tried to change the font settings in qt-config, but that did not help
[20:29] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: Hrm, guess I get to forum search for that old guide I followed, and just like, do it backwards. Ok, thanks.
[20:29] <Avalanche^^^> hey people, i want to install ubuntu alongside with windows. I have one free partition, and i want to install the ubuntu there, without formating the other partitions. Can someone tell me what should i do? How should I select swap/home partition without endangering the other partitions??
[20:29] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: gnome-screensaver seems to recommend those packages
[20:29] <Sirex> hmmm, might be time to put it all to second life people -- not a whole lot to go on from that log.
[20:29] <Sirex> make sure to give them kernel, card type etc.
[20:29] <trask> pogay: how can deactivating the connection of the machines help? they both have their LAN cables plugged into it, do you think of twisted pair or something?
[20:30] <Voxicles> err, stupid wirelss
[20:30] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: Well, I'm looking for the forum guide right now, but somewhere in it there's a package of non-default screensavers mentioned, and I installed those. Most of which lock my system up hardcore. :\
[20:30] <pogay> you have a connect  client - server - router
[20:31] <tomvolek> Hi All,   How can I find out who is the maintaner of a specific package like Eclipse in the Ubuntu 8.04 distribution
[20:31] <Sirex> Avalanche^^^, remove that spare partition, and make it into 2 (swap, and root) then you're good to go.
[20:31] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: that would be those -extra packages
[20:31] <julius_> hi leute
[20:31] <julius_> jemand deutsch hier? =)
[20:31] <BBin> How do I enable the 8-bit mode so wine can use it (xorg.conf)?
[20:31] <mcquest724> i've been trying to put ubuntu on my computer and it is completely not working, is this the right place for help?
[20:31] <pogay> trask: it's evident for me that the router may not answer the dhcp-requests of your client. Or do you desagree?
[20:32] <NoTownKasper> ...
[20:32] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: So, um, you're telling me that once I installed them, I can't uninstall them?
[20:32] <Harley^> Howdy :)
[20:32] <pogay> trask - is the server how controls the client
[20:32] <Sirex> tomvolek, apt-cache show <package>
[20:32] <solexious> [Q] How do make a command from the shell run in the background?
[20:32] <trask> pogay: as far as the LAN boot goes it gets the IP it should
[20:32] <Harley^> Is someone around who can help me with UbuntuStudio ?
[20:33] <tomvolek> Thanks Sirex
[20:33] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: you should be able to uninstall them
[20:33] <Avalanche^^^> and what about making home partition?
[20:33] <mcquest724> ok, well i've burned the iso file to a disk a few times and when it boots it gets stuck and just sits there with a black screen and some command lines like it's loading, but it doesn't go any further and my disc drive stops spinning
[20:33] <Avalanche^^^> and will it format the other partitions?
[20:33] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: Ok, then help me out, what is it going to remove when it removes 'ubuntu desktop'? Cuz when i try to remove those extra packages via synaptic, it tells me it needs to remove that as well.
[20:33] <bullgard4> julius_: Ich zum Beispiel. But please speak English in this channel.
[20:34] <jazzwhiz> i am trying to mount an ntfs-3g drive in ubuntu [hardy heron] and i can't without sudo-ing. the help provided from the error message doesn't work [i've tried it multiple times] and all the directories in question have full permissions
[20:34] <Wicky656> solexious: <command> &
[20:34] <Sirex> Avalanche^^^, you can get rid of the spare partition, and use the space for root, swap, and home if you want, but root and swap would be enogh (bit better to have sperate as you can reinstall without losing so much) - its upto you
[20:34] <mcquest724> can anyone see what i'm typing?
[20:34] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: could you paste the output of apt-get to pastebin.com for me?
[20:34] <Sirex> as long as you dont select to remove the wrong partition, you should be ok
[20:34] <pogay> trask: I'm not shure, but we had once the problem with wrong dhcpservers in pxw thin-clients
[20:34] <sad`panda> mcquest724 jest
[20:34] <jazzwhiz> i see you mcquest724
[20:35] <mcquest724> ok
[20:35] <NoTownKasper> ...?
[20:35] <pogay> trask:  may be it's a different situation.
[20:35] <mcquest724> i'm new to this irc thing and i didn't know if the gray color of my typing meant it wasn't seen
[20:35] <trask> pogay: think thers a log i could look at to check if ther was any contact and maybe when it went wrong?
[20:36] <marin> I have HP 6715s I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I have problems with my WLAN I tried lots of things, take a look here please, I am desperate :(  http://pastebin.com/f5113d7d0
[20:36] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: http://pastebin.com/m5f37f344 There it is, but I think that's not likely to be what you're looking for.
[20:36] <pogay> trask  yeah, you certainly can check the traffic
[20:36] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: the output you get when trying to uninstall the package, I meant. sorry
[20:37] <Sirex> marin, whats the wifi card type ?
[20:37] <NoTownKasper> Aaahhh. I use Synaptic...can I post a screenshot?
[20:37] <trask> pogay: bootp or tftp? and where do they hide?
[20:37] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: Aaahhh. I use Synaptic...can I post a screenshot?
[20:37] <marin> sirex, Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)
[20:37]  * NoTownKasper gnaws on his tab key.
[20:37] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: when you click apply, what packages does it apply for removal?
[20:37] <Sirex> is it wpa you're trying it on by the way ?
[20:38] <eross> i just got xplane 9 in the mail, trying to install on 64-bit hardy by cding to the cd and typing:  ./Installer\ Linux from the cdrom, it comes back no such file or directory
[20:38] <jazzwhiz> anyone an ntfs-3g expert? all the forums don't cover my problem
[20:38] <marin> sirex, at the moment I am just trying to start my WLAN, I can't start it by pressing the WLAN button on laptop...
[20:38] <pogay> trask: I don't know exactly the difference between tftp and bootp
[20:38] <Flare183> How can i get rid of this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30367/
[20:38] <Avalanche^^^> thanx
[20:38] <robini> has anyone got the hdaps_ec working? I keep getting this error, when i start teh daemon: "Not starting hdapsd: /sys/block/sda/queue/protect does not exist"
[20:38] <Sirex> youll prolly have to install a kernel module for it, i dont have a broadcom, but ill check it out
[20:39] <marin> OK, thanks, I will wait
[20:39] <trask> pogay: ok but do you know where any of them store a good logfile?
[20:39] <marin> I tried myself, but without success
[20:39] <Wantuz> Hello, I want to sell two ICQ numbers. 746886 and 837626 at price 4.1 WMZ at one or 8.2 WMZ for all. thank you
[20:39] <jykrd> hi
[20:39] <Sirex> marin, have you checked out https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30908 ?
[20:39] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: I must appologise for wasting your time...I was trying to remove the wrong package...
[20:39] <Flare183> How can I fix this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30367/ ?
[20:40] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: yeah, that's what I suspected
[20:40] <kenkku> NoTownKasper: it's no problem :)
[20:40] <jazzwhiz> i am trying to mount an ntfs-3g drive in ubuntu [hardy heron] and i can't without sudo-ing. the help provided from the error message doesn't work [i've tried it multiple times] and all the directories in question have full permissions
[20:40] <bastid_raZor> does hardy change how it monitors temperatures? it used to be i2c module that did.. now it seems to be THRM.. ?
[20:40] <Wantuz> Hello, I want to sell two ICQ numbers. 746886 and 837626 at price 4.1 WMZ at one or 8.2 WMZ for all. thank you
[20:40] <bunz> 6 digits? that's way too many
[20:40] <Flare183> !ot | Wantuz
[20:41] <bunz> come back when you get a 5 digit uid
[20:41] <NoTownKasper> kenkku: Ok, thanks much. I'll be out of your hair now. Need to help a buddy of mine install ubuntu. :D
[20:41] <Harley^> Is someone around who can help me with UbuntuStudio ? I have an Edirol FA66 and I want to connect my guitar to my Linux box.
[20:41] <jykrd> so, I'm looking at "Software Sources" gui, and under the "updates" tab, I'm unable to enable the "Important security updates" check box.  What's the dealelio
[20:41] <marin> Sirex, I did, but I got totally different lspci -v output, there is no Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g  nowhere
[20:41] <pogay> trask:  isn't it /var/log/syslog ?
[20:41] <Sirex> hmmm.
[20:41] <adii> hey
[20:42] <pogay> trask: in the syslog you see any attempt for connections and logins
[20:42] <Sirex> bc43_fwcutter didnt help marin ?
[20:42] <marin> Sirex, for some reason when I got to System->Administration->Network, there is no Wirelless option :(
[20:42] <marin> Sirex, only wired connection and point to point
[20:42] <imageek> xirov, you here?
[20:42] <adii> i've got that brand new laptop and I installed ubuntu on it. The prob is they've put on it an ethernet card with a Marvell chipset and I can't get it working. Could anyone help me out ?
[20:42] <Sirex> yea, youll prolly have to get it seen first, bear in mind (with mine at least) i have to do ifconfig ath0 up before itll take an ip address.
[20:42] <mcquest724> hello?
[20:43] <matt1> I just deleted my main partition in gparted, then I put in my xp disk but setup tells me that it doesn't detect a hard disk drive.
[20:43] <marin> Sirex, so What I need to do, I wasn't using linux for couple of years
[20:43] <trask> pogay: yeah thers something looking a lot like contact
[20:43] <mcquest724> can anyone help me with a boot problem?
[20:43] <xirov> imageek, Yea? :)
[20:43] <Sirex> marin, i havnt really looked into using the gui for it though, i use wpa_supplicant with a linksys or dlink card. from the command line.
[20:43] <imageek> xirov, did you still need some help?
[20:44] <mcquest724> i want to try out ubuntu but my computer won't boot the disk all the way
[20:44] <Sirex> well, modprobe bc43_fwcutter seems to be the route to go, according to this guide
[20:44] <solexious> [Q] How can I make a script run at startup and if it stops restart it?
[20:44] <marin> How to use wpa_supplicant, it is complicated :p
[20:44] <jykrd> does anyone have "important security updates" randomly disabled in their software sources configuration for reasons unknown?
[20:44] <Sirex> ill msg you
[20:44] <compzxl> can someone help me get my book NAS detected in ubuntu? its connected through a network cable, maybe thats why its not deteced as a unit?
[20:44] <kenkku> jykrd: mine is disabled, but it's still enabled in 3rd party repos
[20:44] <pogay> trask: it can be that the connection is established, but the server send's back wrong data..
[20:45] <Guest94122> guys, how to kill firefox trough cli?
[20:45] <jykrd> kenkku: can you re-enable the security updates?
[20:45] <noodlesgc> Guest94122 kill `pgrep firefox`
[20:45] <mcquest724> it reads it and goes to a certain point and then the screen just stays black and it doesn't bring me past that point. then the disk stops spinning
[20:45] <H__> Guest94122 sudo killall firefox
[20:45] <Guest94122> what means pgrep?
[20:45] <jykrd> process grep?
[20:46] <kenkku> jykrd: if I click on the checkbox, it just enables very briefly and then goes back to disabled
[20:46] <Hikinen> Can someone help me with teamspeak install?
[20:46] <DanishFarooq> How can i connect msn or yahoo messenger behind isa? I configured the ntlmaps its works with browsing, but msn and yahoo not connecting with web proxy...
[20:46] <jykrd> kenkku: isn't that weird?
[20:46] <joaopinto> Guest33555, man pgrep
[20:46] <matt1> would the linux swap partition stop xp from reading a hard disk, because I couldn't delete that partition in gparted
[20:46] <Guest94122> whats difference between "pgrep firefox" and "killall firefox"?
[20:46] <xirov> imageek, well.. 1 thing :)
[20:46] <trask> pogay: /USR/SBIN/CRON[22129]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/lib/sysstat/sa1 ] && { [ -r "$DEFAULT" ] && . "$DEFAULT" ; [ "$ENABLED" = "true" ] && exec /usr/lib/sysstat/sa1 $SA1_OPTIONS 1 1 ; }) is the last of the new lines
[20:46] <kenkku> jykrd: same happens for you?
[20:46] <joaopinto> Guest33555, if you read the man page, you will notice that pgrep does not kill, just lists processes
[20:46] <DRebellion> Guest94122, you mean:   "kill `pgrep firefox`" and "killall firefox"
[20:46] <joaopinto> i meant Guest94122
[20:47] <jykrd> kenkku: mine doesn't even enable for a moment
[20:47] <DanishFarooq> Is anyone can help me?
[20:47] <xirov> that gnome-do
[20:47] <Guest94122> i ask a question, how to kill firefox? and i get answers like "killall firefox" and "pgrep firefox" what do i choose then?:)
[20:47] <jykrd> does anyone besides kenkku and myself have the in-ability to enable security updates in the "software sources" dialog window?
[20:48] <jazzwhiz> Guest94122 they all work
[20:48] <kenkku> jykrd: or well, it might look like it enables
[20:48] <xirov> imageek, that gnome-do
[20:48] <jeeves__> can anyone give me a hand figuring out this nVidia driver isse?
[20:48] <kenkku> jykrd: maybe it's just the click animation
[20:48] <Guest94122> whats the difference then?
[20:48] <bullgard4> How to copy a string from a text in a xterm to the Clipboard? 1. select the string so that it is highlighted. 2. what?
[20:48] <trask> Received: DHCPREQUEST,  bootpd[21806]: Sent: DHCPACK, bootpd[21806]: sending reply (with RFC1048 options)    are the 3 previously to that
[20:48] <kenkku> jykrd: see if it still adds the security repo to 3rd party repos?
[20:48] <Kcaj> Where be my wall papers stored?
[20:48] <DanishFarooq> hello
[20:48] <adii> i've got that brand new laptop and I installed ubuntu on it. The prob is they've put on it an ethernet card with a Marvell chipset and I can't get it working. Could anyone help me out ?
[20:48] <voider> bullgard4: middle-click
[20:49] <genii> bullgard4: rightclick on the text and choose Copy
[20:49] <xirov> imageek, the hotkey doesnt work
[20:49] <Ab3L> good night
[20:49] <pogay> trask: I guess these is the output of a cronjob, which is defined for some system tasks
[20:49] <imageek> xirov, what hotkey do you have defined?
[20:49] <Flare183> How can I fix this: http://imagebin.org/23077 ?
[20:49] <jykrd> kenkku: yea, it's enabled there
[20:49] <pogay> trask yes dhcp
[20:49] <voider> bullgard4: or shift-insert
[20:49] <solexious> [Q] How can I make a script run at startup and if it stops restart it automatically?
[20:49] <jykrd> kenkku: it's disconcerting nevertheless
[20:49] <DanishFarooq> hello
[20:49] <DanishFarooq> Is anyone can help me?
[20:49] <matt1> would the linux swap partition in anyway hinder an xp installation?
[20:50] <mcquest724> i
[20:50] <jaysonsantos> Hello Folks, Can I run 64-bit application on 32-bit ubuntu ?
[20:50] <DanishFarooq> How can i connect msn or yahoo messenger behind isa? I configured the ntlmaps its works with browsing, but msn and yahoo not connecting with web proxy...
[20:50] <genii> jaysonsantos: No
[20:50] <trask> pogay: think i should plug in another netcard in the ubuntu and let them be on a single cable?
[20:50] <xirov> imageek, i have tried several.. none of em works.. Do doesnt react on it at all
[20:50] <imageek> xirov, i have had that problem sometimes also
[20:50] <pogay> trask:  seem's that it replied
[20:50] <imageek> i have to run it a second time before it recognizes it
[20:50] <jaysonsantos> genii> Ty
[20:50] <kenkku> jykrd: it sseems to be a bug in the setting program
[20:51] <break_free> man, pulseaudio is going crazy on my system. Skype crashes, mplayer no longer gets audio. All after an update or something
[20:51] <Kcaj> Where be my wall papers stored on Ubunty be default?
[20:51] <xirov> what is your hotkey now?
[20:51] <genii> jaysonsantos: You're welcome. If it's any help, you can run 32 bit apps in 64bit install
[20:51] <DanishFarooq> How can i connect msn or yahoo messenger behind isa? I configured the ntlmaps its works with browsing, but msn and yahoo not connecting with web proxy...
[20:51] <compzxl> can someone help me get my book NAS detected in ubuntu? its connected through a network cable, maybe thats why its not deteced as a unit?
[20:51] <Jostein> yo
[20:51] <imageek> xirov, the windows key and space bar
[20:51] <Jostein> interest
[20:51] <xirov> okay
[20:51] <pogay> trask: but now may be the other dhcp-server replays also
[20:51] <xir> I have a powerpc mac - is it possible to install ubuntu as a dual-boot on it?
[20:51] <xirov> well.. i dont think it respons to my windows key
[20:51] <Flannel> !dualboot | xir
[20:51] <xir> thanks
[20:51] <jianfei> Q: I have two N1 wireless cards in my laptop and I have two N1 WAP's can i connect to both at the same time?
[20:52] <DanishFarooq> !isa
[20:52] <xirov> imageek, now it works :D
[20:52] <xirov> imageek, thanks again :D
[20:52] <genii> jianfei: You certainly can. However only 1 can be the default route no matter how many different connections you make
[20:52] <DanishFarooq> nobody knows what is isa here?
[20:52] <imageek> xirov, yw
[20:53] <Flare183> !ssh | DanishFarooq
[20:53] <mirak> hi
[20:53] <Megaqwerty> Hi guys, I'm having a problem installing the latest security updates. They complain about needing libpango1.0-0 to be at 1.20.5 when it's currently at 1.20.1-1. Any ideas?
[20:53] <kenkku> jykrd: I'll try to find an existing bug report. I tried deleting sources.list, still happened when using a fresh one
[20:53] <mirak> is there a way to make work iphone 3g with ubuntu ?
[20:53] <Flare183> DanishFarooq: It has to do with ssh keys
[20:53] <jianfei> genii: i cant bridge them both somehow to get double?
[20:53] <mirak> with rhythmbox
[20:53] <SeveredCross> mirak: Not that I know of.
[20:53] <zhaozhou> Anyone around here got Wow's burning crusade running??
[20:53] <zhaozhou> -?
[20:53] <tigerplug> hey whats up?
[20:54] <SeveredCross> Apple changed the schema on the iTunes database with the iPhones.
[20:54] <SeveredCross> And I'm not sure anyone's figured it out yet.
[20:54] <genii> jianfei: No. But there is an aggregator which you could use
[20:54] <DanishFarooq> Flare183, I am talking about isa, and I got problem that my msn or yahoo not connecting , browsing and downloading is fine, cause i configured ntlmaps but msn and yahoo wont work with that proxy
[20:54] <Sylphid|work> could anyone pastebin their hardy /etc/apt/sources.list .... i seem to have a problem with my security repos
[20:54] <DanishFarooq> just connecting
[20:54] <jianfei> genii: do you know the name? is it an app?
[20:54] <ShinjinAkage> I need some help. I created a new partition for my home and copied all the files from my old one to it Now I need to set it to be used at home. Can someone help me with this part? I can't figure anything out besudes I need to add a line in fstab.
[20:55] <edju> dmesg shows "apm: BIOS not found".  What's loading apm? Doesn't seem to be a module?
[20:55] <zhaozhou> Seems like a no.
[20:55] <Megaqwerty> Sylphid|work: you having problems installing the firefox updates?
[20:55] <Flannel> Sylphid|work: should be deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy main restricted universe multiverse
[20:55] <Sylphid|work> Megaqwerty, no
[20:55] <compzxl> ANYONE used NAS at all on ubuntu in here?
[20:55] <wols> adii: it is
[20:55] <Megaqwerty> Sylphid|work: ah, nevermind then
[20:55] <wols> compzxl: english please
[20:55] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: what kind of problem?
[20:55] <PucKid> There was an MTP issue yesterday, and i didn't know how to connect my Samsung YP-K3, now it's done. It works fine. I found it on the forum, the link is here : http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4377318 . Hope it helps others to.
[20:56] <pogay> trask:  probably you do need two cards   clients -[switch]-etn0-Server-eth1 router
[20:56] <BOZG> Hey, I'm trying to connect 2 pcs through a router.  Can ping each other but when I try to connect, it says "Can't find location".  Both have ssh installed.  Any ideas?
[20:56] <Sylphid|work> kenkku, synaptic is not allowing me to select the security repos ... just performs a "false select"
[20:57] <pogay> BOZG:  also ssh-server?
[20:57] <BOZG> pogay: Yes.
[20:57] <Flannel> Sylphid|work: Just add it manually
[20:57] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: same for me. it should still appear in 3rd party repos after you click it, right?
[20:57] <eross> figured it out, have to use getlibs to get 32bit compatibility
[20:57] <ShinjinAkage> How do you get the UUID part for a fstab entry?
[20:58] <BOZG> pogay: And I've checked to make sure that Firestarter allows connections from other PC.
[20:58] <pogay> BOZG:  server started  asume
[20:58] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: I think the program just doesn't recognise that the security repo is enabled, even though it is
[20:58] <Sylphid|work> Flannel, it is in there manually....
[20:58] <eubey_mobile> is it possible to use windows journal on linux with wine?
[20:58] <BOZG> pogay: Yes.
[20:58] <Flannel> Sylphid|work: And it gives you errors? or what?
[20:59] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: me and jykrd are also experiencing this, seems like a bug
[20:59] <Sylphid|work> Flannel, not that i have seen from apt-get update
[20:59] <ShinjinAkage> Can someone help me edit fstab so I can get my home directory working properly again!?
[20:59] <pogay> BOZG:  you could start a webserver and test port 80
[20:59] <wols> !ask | ShinjinAkage
[20:59] <ShinjinAkage> I didn't ask to ask a question....
[20:59] <Sylphid|work> kenkku, ok ... I was assuming the repos had to be in a specific order or something...
[20:59] <bullgard4> voider: middle-click apparently copies the string to the place of the insertion point in the xterm. But I would rather like to copy the string to the Clipboard and then paste into a input field of another GNOME program. How to do this?
[21:00] <pogay> BOZG: just to see wether it's a ssh prob, or a net prob
[21:00] <Godstrong> does the asus eee pc have ubuntu OS?
[21:00] <zOap> anyone know of a good task switcher for ubuntu? the one in ubuntu/xubuntu is a bit dull and I`m not switching to compiz because of stability issues on my graphic card.
[21:00] <wols> bullgard4: ctrl+c, ctrl+v
[21:00] <SeveredCross> bullgard4: Highlight the string in xterm, then just hit Control-V in the other text box.
[21:00] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: I just tried with a fresh sources.list, still happens
[21:00] <SeveredCross> If you're in a gnome-terminal and need to copy, select the text and use C-S-c
[21:00] <eross> is there anything else I need to know about hardy 64bit besides getlibs??
[21:00] <Flannel> Sylphid|work: So, is there a problem?  try apt-cache policy openssh-server, do you see the security version?
[21:00] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server, and when I discovered the computer I was installing it on did not have a network card, I installed an ethernet card--but the installer st ill reports there is no network card detected. Is something wrong?
[21:00] <BOZG> pogay: Using port 22 though?
[21:01] <Benjee> is there a way to work with stdout in real time? that is - while program is working an generating output continuously
[21:01] <solexious> [Q] How can I make a script run at startup and if it stops restart it automatically?
[21:01] <SeveredCross> What do you mean "work" with it?
[21:01] <pogay> BOZG:  ssh reponds on 22
[21:01] <eubey_mobile> solexious, sounds like a virus to me
[21:01] <bullgard4> SeveredCross: This does not function. When I do as you are advising, Hardy will insert the old contents of the Clipboard.
[21:01] <Benjee> SeveredCross: pipe
[21:02] <ShinjinAkage> How do you find out the UUID of a partition??>???
[21:02] <SeveredCross> Benjee: Not sure you can do it in real time.
[21:02] <SeveredCross> Pipes usually work after all the output has come out.
[21:02] <xTheGoat121x> Garh!
[21:02] <genii> !info ifenslave | jianfei
[21:02] <Benjee> SeveredCross: is there a way just to filter the real-time output then?
[21:02] <genii> jianfei: Apologies on lag, had to look the package name up
[21:03] <Sylphid|work> kenkku, just curious has anyone tried adding it to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that you know of?
[21:03] <Dr_Link|Laptop> What exactly is going on?
[21:03] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server, and when I discovered the computer I was installing it on did not have a network card, I installed an ethernet card--but the installer st ill reports there is no network card detected. Is something wrong?
[21:03] <marcules> hi :)
[21:03] <jazzwhiz> i am trying to mount an ntfs-3g drive in ubuntu [hardy heron] and i can't without sudo-ing. the help provided from the error message doesn't work [i've tried it multiple times] and all the directories in question have full permissions
[21:03] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: nope, I don't even know what that does
[21:03] <pogay> BOZG: you don't have firewall issues?
[21:03] <SeveredCross> Benjee: Hmm..Not that I know of.
[21:03] <Cheese> any news on getting ATI cards working properly with 8.04?
[21:03] <Cheese> seems to be a lot of people with problems (I'm one of them)
[21:04] <Megaqwerty> Hi guys, I'm having a problem installing the latest security updates. They complain about needing libpango1.0-0 to be at 1.20.5 when it's currently at 1.20.1-1. Any ideas?
[21:04] <Godstrong> does the asus eee pc have ubuntu OS??
[21:04] <Megaqwerty> Godstrong: it comes with Xandros pre-installed
[21:04] <Megaqwerty> Godstrong: however you may install ubuntu on it yourself if you wish
[21:04] <BOZG> pogay: No, I checked Firestarter.  For some reason though, when I try to connect from the other PC to this one, it just connects to itself even though both have seperate IP addresses.
[21:04] <Godstrong> xandros that's a distro of linux?
[21:04] <_Zeus_> yes
[21:04] <Megaqwerty> Godstrong: correct
[21:04] <Godstrong> ok thanks
[21:04] <solexious> eubey_mobile: ?
[21:04] <Johnny> is there a program to save and encrypt all my passwords in a file so i can save them on a disk
[21:04] <_Zeus_> the EeePC uses Xandros
[21:05] <Godstrong> is xandros any good?
[21:05] <pogay> jazzwhiz: I think  you could define it in fstab, that a user can mount
[21:05] <bullgard4> wols: I believe that you did not really read the question which I put here. Your answer applies to GNOME but not to my question.
[21:05] <kiwanis> bonsoir je cherche u fracophone car j'ai un petit probleme ( venez en priver )
[21:05] <Megaqwerty> Godstrong: I don't like it anywhere near as much as ubuntu, but if you leave it as-is (the default interface) it's still good enough to get work done on.
[21:05] <jazzwhiz> pogay actually ntfs-3g doesn't look at fstab as i've been told by the internet, but i've done it anyways just in case
[21:06] <jazzwhiz> pogay [to no effect]
[21:06] <pogay> kiwanis, si le probleme est petit
[21:06] <Megaqwerty> Godstrong: (I personally use it for school)
[21:06] <bullgard4> ,fr! | kiwanis
[21:06] <mintsoup> My office has many windows servers hosting shared folders.  Is there some way I can browse that sort of stuff in Linux? I have to be able to log in with my Windows AD account to get access, btw
[21:06] <pogay> jazzwhiz: you can define it in  fstab for shure
[21:06] <Sirex> mintsoup, pyNeighborhood
[21:06] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: I believe the program adds a security.ubuntu.com repo instead of archive.ubuntu.com repo, which works
[21:06] <Godstrong> xandros you would use for school.....will compiz, gnome, or kde work on xandros
[21:07] <Sirex> mintsoup, apt-get install pyneighborhood
[21:07] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: when you replace security.ub... with archive.ub.. (in my case fi.archive), the security checkbox works
[21:07] <jazzwhiz> pogay well, here's my fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g user,noauto,rw 0 0
[21:07] <mintsoup> Sirex: thanks i'll give that a shot
[21:07] <Voxicles> So Ubuntu randomly freezes rather frequently.  Is this a common problem?
[21:08] <Sirex> Voxicles, i hope not
[21:08] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone know how to fix Firefox 3 with dark themes?
[21:08] <Megaqwerty> mintsoup: you may also want to look into Likewise Open (https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html )
[21:08] <pogay> jazzwhiz:  UUID=70C0439DC0436904 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,errors=remount-ro,umask=007,gid=46 0
[21:08] <Voxicles> Sirex, it's getting kind of annoying, everything just locks up, have to hard reboot
[21:08] <solexious> [Q] How can I make a script run at startup and if it stops restart it automatically?
[21:08] <pogay> jazzwhiz o.k.
[21:08] <jazzwhiz> pogay what's that big number?
[21:09] <Megaqwerty> Hi guys, I'm having a problem installing the latest security updates. They complain about needing libpango1.0-0 to be at 1.20.5 when it's currently at 1.20.1-1. Any ideas?
[21:09] <kiwanis> je shouaiterai passer a eeexubuntu mais j'ai des probleme pour graver l'image du CD    ( si quelqu'un me comprend et peu m'aider )
[21:09] <Sirex> Voxicles, i assume this dosnt happen in windows
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> !fr | kiwanis
[21:09] <XYTTY> salut :p
[21:09] <BOZG> pogay: It's managed to fix itself somehow!
[21:09] <Voxicles> Sirex, No sir, windows runs fine, unfortunately :-P
[21:09] <pogay> its uuid=bignumber you can mount by uuid which is an unique ID
[21:09] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: I'm filing a bug report about this now, I'll give you a link when I'm finished
[21:09] <kane77> in my update manager there are two updates marked as "Distribution updades" but they are grayed out.. what do I do about them?
[21:09] <krazy-h> Hello to everybody !!!!!!
[21:10] <pogay> BOZG: great!
[21:10] <Sirex> Voxicles, whats your front end like ? xorg, compiz, ATI, nvidia etc etc ?
[21:10] <eross> i got my sata cable in today, installed hardy 64bit and can dualboot without a hitch.. thanks, ubuntu =)
[21:10] <Cheese> did I just lot out of this channel and then back in?
[21:10] <jazzwhiz> pogay ok, but i don't think that's the problem, it mounts fine when i sudo it, but then i don't have the access i'd like
[21:10] <BOZG> pogay:  And for some strange reason, the IP addresses have switched themselves around.  Thanks for the help. :)
[21:10] <_Zeus_> yes cheese
[21:10] <Cheese> weird
[21:10] <kiwanis> /joi #kubuntu-fr
[21:11] <Voxicles> Sirex, well, fresh install of hardy this morning, so only have the proprietary ati drivers, and compiz
[21:11] <Godstrong> can you use compiz, gnome, or kde on xandros
[21:11] <Godstrong> can you use compiz, gnome, or kde on xandros?
[21:11] <_Zeus_> don't think so
[21:11] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: seems like this has been reported already
[21:11] <Sirex> kan77, if you wish to update the whole version of your machine, do apt-get dist-upgrade . otherwise, dont worry about them
[21:11] <Guest29347> siema
[21:11] <_Zeus_> this is ubuntu not xandros
[21:11] <pogay> jazzwhiz:  o.k. I'm not 100% shure, a user can mount
[21:11] <Godstrong> lol
[21:11] <Godstrong> thanks
[21:11] <Voxicles> Sirex, though freezes usually seem to happen while in firefox
[21:12] <jazzwhiz> pogay hmmmmmm, not the strength i was looking for, hahaha. alright, i'll keep trying stuff
[21:12] <pogay> jazzwhiz:  but I thought the user parm is for that
[21:12] <Sirex> any output logs ? xorg log or such ?
[21:12] <Cheese> okie dokie - problem is this and seems a lot of people are having it.  Ubuntu 8.04 works fine, I just upgraded to it.  However, if I enable the ATI restricted driver and reboot, I can log in, but then the screen goes blank and nothing but the mouse works.  Even the software shut down switch on the computer doesn't work.
[21:12] <jatz> can anyone answer a question about the netbook remix?
[21:12] <aciel> Hey folks. I think the most recent change to hardy's generic kernel is causing me major problems (with my SATA controller). I can't boot. Is there some way to revert to an earlier kernel from the livecd?
[21:12] <_Zeus_> the shitdown button doesn't work?
[21:12] <Cheese> I read as many threads on this as I could find, but none seemed to have a fix for me
[21:12] <_Zeus_> *shutdown
[21:12] <_Zeus_> sorry
[21:12] <FloodBot1> _Zeus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <pogay> jazzwhiz: sorry, I mount it when system starts.-)
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> Cheese: what card?
[21:12] <jazzwhiz> pogay yeah, but ntfs-3g is dumb and does it's own thing
[21:13] <Voxicles> odd, screen just went wonky, brb
[21:13] <Cheese> ATI Radeon 9600
[21:13] <Sylphid|work> kenkku, thanks
[21:13] <Sirex> cheese, ati-config --initial not help ? -- that might be a bit off, off the top of my head.
[21:13] <_Zeus_> Cheese: even is you hold down shutdown it doesn't work?  that's odd
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> Cheese: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[21:13] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: here's the bug I found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/244093
[21:13] <kenkku> Sylphid|work: it seems it's fixed in intrepid
[21:13] <_Zeus_> have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[21:13] <Cheese> _Zeus, if I hold it down it cuts the power.  Nothing else works though.
[21:14] <Voxicles> Sirex, Ugh, this time screen just went all crazy.  Which logs did you want to look at?
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> Voxicles: are you running compiz? try without compiz and see if it still happens...
[21:14] <c0ld_Fuzi0n> @cheese - you should be able to log in with an older kernel at boot by accessing the grub menu
[21:14] <Sirex> try Odd-rationale's idea before you get dirty in log files
[21:14] <Megaqwerty> I'm having a problem installing the latest security updates. They complain about needing libpango1.0-0 to be at 1.20.5 when it's currently at 1.20.1-1. Any ideas?
[21:14] <_Zeus_> did you try reconfiguring xserver-xorg, cheese?
[21:14] <Voxicles> I'm sure the problem probably is compiz.  :-(  But ubu is ugly without it
[21:15] <Cheese> _Zeus - yep
[21:15] <Cheese> the only advice I haven't tried is downgrading X.org, but I really don't want to do that
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> Cheese: did you see my link? it has your card listed there... try it...
[21:16] <jatz> Okay, my problem is that after installing netbook remix on the eee and it doesn't work. I put itn the applets, and the thing appears, but when I click on it the desktop just appears over wherever I clicked, and the graphics get pretty messed up
[21:16] <Ayabara> I want to connect to my Sony Ericsson phone using bluetooth. Any good apps out there to browse mobile phones?
[21:16] <kane77> Voxicles, that is not true..
[21:16] <pogay> jazzwhiz:  what error do you get? may be a user can mount, but he has no access rights. I had issues with sshfs like this
[21:16] <Cheese> Odd-rationale - missed that.  Thanks.  I'll read that.
[21:16] <Odd-rationale> Cheese: hope it helps...
[21:16] <Nightvision> Hi there was wondering if someone can help, im trying to sign the ubuntu code of conduct but when I dump the contents of my UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc file I get (7, 9, 'No public key')
[21:16] <jazzwhiz> pogay nah, i'm pretty sure it's an ntfs-3g thing, i'll paste
[21:16] <kakaka> Simple question-is the distribution for the ps3 stable yet? if not which should  i get?
[21:16] <kenkku> Ayabara: you can use nautilus. the bluetooth applet will help
[21:17] <c0ld_Fuzi0n> yer all mad! switch to debian
[21:17] <jazzwhiz> http://pastie.org/241292
[21:17] <Ayabara> kenkku, I tried it out, but it wouldn't play ball. After saying "browse device", nothing happens
[21:17] <Odd-rationale> !offtopic | c0ld_Fuzi0n
[21:17] <MagicFalre> hi, i just updated ubuntu to v8.10 but failed to load: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30376/
[21:18] <jazzwhiz> get that paste pogay ?
[21:18] <Odd-rationale> MagicFalre: 8.10 is still alpha. try 8.04 instead
[21:18] <_Zeus_> MagicFalre: type /j #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <_Zeus_> that's support for 8.10
[21:18] <MagicFalre> thanks
[21:18] <kenkku> Ayabara: have you bonded with the device?
[21:18] <MohShami> hey guys, I have hardy on an AMD64, been facing a problem with sound for a while, sometimes it just stops and I need to restart X to get it back, any ideas?
[21:19] <RemsSs> what means bonded ?
[21:19] <Ayabara> kenkku, yes
[21:19] <Ayabara> it's listed under bonded devices
[21:19] <kenkku> Ayabara: ah nevermind, the dialog doesn't appear after clicking on browse device?
[21:19] <Sirex> RemsSs, to link two or more devices to act as one, faster, device.
[21:19] <Ayabara> kenkku, nope
[21:20] <jazzwhiz> pogay: http://pastie.org/241292
[21:20] <pogay> jazzwhiz:  look's like
[21:20]  * Pelo is at his wits end
[21:20] <RemsSs> I am a french man and l like to use ubuntu i know that the french chan exist
[21:20] <Pelo> RemsSs, ubuntu-fr
[21:21] <mocha> does anyone know if Alsa 1.0.17 will be backported to Hardy?
[21:21] <_Zeus_> type /join #ubuntu-fr
[21:21] <SeveredCross> mocha: Does it fix some serious issue?
[21:21] <metalpres> so for some reason one of my drives just started going insanely slow and even after a reboot it still is.  it just took almost an hour to extract a 175mb file from a rar, and I can no longer play high bitrate video from that drive,  how can I find out whats causing that?
[21:21] <mocha> for me it does
[21:21] <mocha> with intel hda controllers
[21:22] <Pelo> after installing the binary or any other nvidia driver for a geforce fx5200 , it boots fine , nvidia logo , logs in proper, but as soon as I move the mouse a bit or type , the screen locksup , any suggestions ?
[21:22] <mocha> I was going to compile it, I did that once in Feisty, but I was concerned that maybe the location of the modules has changed and didn't want to risk it
[21:22] <cbrolly21> www.apps.bebo.com/Chat-Network
[21:22] <cbrolly21> www.apps.bebo.com/Chat-Network
[21:22] <Sirex> Metalpres hdparm migth dig up some info for you
[21:22] <Sirex> might*
[21:23] <mocha> SeveredCross: are you a dev?
[21:23] <SeveredCross> mocha: Nope, not at all.
[21:23] <SeveredCross> Just asking, because that'st he usual policy for backports.
[21:24] <mocha> SeveredCross: well how do I communicate that it needs to be backported then?
[21:24] <jazzwhiz> mocha is that a compliment, or a, i'm gonna throw insults at you if you're not kinda thing? [out of curiosity]
[21:24] <SeveredCross> mocha: Submit a bugreport on Launchpad.
[21:24] <kakaka> is the distrubution for ps3 stable, should i give it a try?
[21:24] <Sirex> mocha, what issues did you have ?
[21:24] <mocha> jazzwhiz: huh??
[21:24] <jazzwhiz> nm
[21:24] <jatz> so, does anybody know why I'd get a boat load of graphical glitches with netbook remix? should I just give up trying to use it?
[21:24] <Blacklight> there is a distrobution for ps3?
[21:25] <mocha> Sirex: the intel hda controller has a lot of issues in Alsa 1.0.16 and previous
[21:25] <SeveredCross> Blacklight: Yeah, tailored to the Cell processor.
[21:25] <_Zeus_> is anyone here at OSCON?
[21:25] <Sirex> ah ok, not related :)
[21:25] <mocha> Sirex: 1.0.17 has made a significant number of fixes to it
[21:25] <Sirex> i spent 2 hours yesterday on my back trying to get surround sound working on a machine with the most obscure wiring round the back of it ;-/  i am not a fan of pulseaudio as of now.
[21:25] <HUNTER_byt1> What is the best place for my scripts(*.sh)? I want them be available globally.
[21:25] <bullgard4> How to copy a string from a xterm to a GNOME text box? First highlight the string in the xterm. Second what?
[21:25] <Masteredu_> Hello
[21:26] <Sirex> HUNTER_byt1, /usr/local/bin
[21:26] <PucKid> hi Masteredu_
[21:26] <_Zeus_> middleclick to paste, bullgard
[21:26] <Masteredu_> i have a importand question , i will save my datas on my psp , becouse i will make a linux new installation
[21:26] <pogay> bullgard4:  ctrl v
[21:26] <Masteredu_> the problem is fat 32 is only read
[21:26] <_Zeus_> HUNTER, scripts should go in /usr/local/bin
[21:26] <iei> hi can someone please help me configure my mouse.. backward button doesnt work in ubuntu as guest os using virtualbox (guest additions installed).. in windows forward button is set to magnify and it works in ubuntu too.. but backward button doesnt.. any suggestions?
[21:26] <Masteredu_> and the psp data system is fat 32
[21:26] <_Zeus_> umm
[21:26] <pogay> bullgard4:  left and right mouseclick
[21:26] <mocha> so is there a dev channel here?
[21:27] <_Zeus_> yes
[21:27] <_Zeus_> #ubuntu/devel
[21:27] <_Zeus_> *#ubuntu-devel
[21:27] <Sirex> iei, ill msg you,
[21:27] <Masteredu_> how can i become read - write rights for fat 32?ß
[21:27] <muppetexperience> How do I kill a window without killing its application?
[21:27] <Blacklight> SeveredCross: ahhh I see. I suppose it was just a matter of time anyway... lol
[21:27] <mocha> okay, let me see if anyone is there, thanks
[21:27] <Masteredu_> ?
[21:27] <Masteredu_> ?=
[21:27] <Masteredu_> how cani become fat 32 support
[21:27] <Masteredu_> pls say
[21:27] <Blacklight> muppetexperience: unless you fork it too the background you can't
[21:27] <Masteredu_> help
[21:27] <Masteredu_> :(
[21:27] <SeveredCross> Masteredu_: What?
[21:27] <FloodBot1> Masteredu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <SeveredCross> !tell Masteredu_ about enter
[21:28] <muppetexperience> Blacklight: How would I fork it to background? bg %x?
[21:28] <bullgard4> pogay: ctrl-v does insert the old contents of the clipboard. This is not what I wanted.
[21:28] <muppetexperience> I started it from a menu, not a terminal.
[21:28] <Masteredu_> lol
[21:28] <hyppias> is there a VNC for ubuntu ?
[21:28] <Masteredu_> obottu is a machine
[21:28] <_Zeus_> vnc?
[21:28] <SeveredCross> Masteredu_: Anyway, to get FAt32, you don't need to do anything.
[21:29] <Masteredu_> ubottu
[21:29] <SeveredCross> FAT32 is built into Linux.
[21:29] <pogay> bullgard4:  you have to push the left and the right, or the middle mouse
[21:29] <Blacklight> I don't believe you can then
[21:29] <Voxicles> I think I've confirmed that my freezing problem is firefox related
[21:29] <Sirex> Hyppias, many
[21:29] <Sirex> tightvnc for one
[21:29] <rwk424x> hi how do you find out your ip of your samba shared hdd?
 how you mean
[21:29] <unop> SeveredCross, that's not always true.
[21:29] <Blacklight> muppetexperience: I don't believe you can then
[21:29] <SeveredCross> unop: Uhm, it's not?
[21:29] <hyppias> ok
[21:29] <pogay> bullgard4: try first in the console itself, that in the gome-window
[21:29] <SeveredCross> I've never had an Ubuntu kernel without FAT32.
[21:30] <Masteredu_> how cani become fat 32 support
[21:30] <unop> SeveredCross, the module has to be compiled in or loaded.
[21:30] <SeveredCross> unop: I'm not sure that's a module.
[21:30] <Masteredu_> -..-
[21:30] <Masteredu_> bye
[21:30] <Masteredu_> i go-..-
[21:30] <SeveredCross> I'd have to go mount a fat32 drive to make sure, but I don't think it is.
[21:30] <unop> SeveredCross, lsmod | grep -i fat
[21:30] <rwk424x> how do i find out the ip of my external hdd in my networK+
[21:31] <SeveredCross> hmm, it is a module. Interesting.
[21:31] <unop> SeveredCross, like i said, it can be compiled in too ..
[21:31] <Sirex> rwk424x, i dont know the "proper" way. but cheops-ng would do it i suspect.
[21:32] <bunz> rwk424x: your router most likely has a table of all the stuff connected to it
[21:32] <ycy> hi
[21:32] <aciel__> How does one delete a resume image?
[21:32] <metalpres> how can I do a hard drive check or force one on reboot for a specific drive?
[21:32] <hyppias> i 2want to look at my eeepc ubunto from my windows xp machine. do I install vnc4server in eeepc then ?
[21:32] <ycy> what's the difference if i install ubuntu from ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server?
[21:32] <bunz> server has no graphical interface (X)
[21:32] <_Zeus_> by default
[21:33] <_Zeus_> but you can install a GUI if you want it
[21:33] <Sirex> hyppias, i dont know eeepc, but i assume so. unless it has something built in already
[21:33] <bunz> plus some other stuff... but that's one huge difference
[21:33] <_Zeus_> like LAMP preinstalled
[21:33] <phb> I need help to configure "fish" plugin for irssi?, anyone got experiance with this?
[21:33] <Sirex> ycy, ubuntu-server is command line, it wont have the graphical stuff on it, after install
[21:33] <ycy> _Zeus_ bunz what's the other stuff? ubuntu-server is a subset of ubuntu's desktop preinstalled packaged or viceversa?
[21:33] <_Zeus_> ycy: neither
[21:34] <_Zeus_> they are seperate packages
[21:34] <muppetexperience> Blacklight: That's a bit weird. I just find it slightly annoying that there is no conveniant way to get rid of a Rick Roll in an operating system that is virtually immune to viruses :P
[21:34] <muppetexperience> But meh, never mind.
[21:34] <iamlindoro_> Can anyone tell me if freeradius on Ubuntu is build without the PEAP module?
[21:34] <iamlindoro_> er built
[21:35] <rwk424x> Sirex: didnt work
[21:35] <pogay> bullgard4:  does the cut and paste work for you now?
[21:35] <rwk424x> bunz: I just checked theres nothing
[21:35] <rwk424x> bunz: im trying to use the web interface within my hdd (network) but i need its ip
[21:35] <Sirex> is it a new device, rwk424x  ?
[21:36] <sv452> good evening everyone
[21:36] <rwk424x> Sirex: yeah, just bought it, its a NAS
[21:36] <Sirex> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are good bets to try
[21:36] <Sirex> if your using 0.x for your host, you might have to swap to 1.x for a bit to get connectivity, then move the nas tot eh right ip
[21:36] <Sirex> to the*
[21:37] <rwk424x> sirex didnt work and the 2nd one is my router
[21:37] <Sirex> ill msg you
[21:37] <Sonhador-PR> !voice
[21:37] <bullgard4> pogay: It is not only important what you have told me. You did not mention the position of the cursor. The position of the cursor is important in addition to the position of the insertion point.
[21:37] <runemaste644> Whenever i make a source package install, i get the error: "C compiler cannot create executables" What do i install to fix this?
[21:37] <rwk424x> sirex me? im on irssi so I dont know if its possible
[21:37] <Sonhador-PR> hello, I'm trying to invite ChanServ into my registered channel, how can I do this?
[21:37] <aciel__> anyone know how i tell my kernel to ignore resume images and just boot fresh?
[21:37] <pogay> bullgard4: yes it's rather irritating...
[21:37] <Mile5> Can someone tell me why my comp can't identify one of my screen when I've got an copy plugged in next to it? they see both and I can use both, but I can't identify/change to the right resolution on the unidentified one...
[21:37] <sv452> when someone is avail i need some help setting up my ati radeon mobility 9100 igp screen stuff ... tried everything and i am about to launch my laptop out the window ...
[21:38] <CShadowRun> helping my friend take a look at ubuntu, when he loads up the livecd it hangs at usplash
[21:38] <bullgard4> pogay: Thank you for your comments.
[21:38] <runemaste644> Sonhador-PR: This is not the channel to ask that. Try #freenode
[21:38] <SaintStewart> Hello people!
[21:38] <Sonhador-PR> thank you
[21:38] <funkybuby> hi there
[21:39] <SaintStewart> How are my fellow Debian-based open source OS users today?  =D
[21:39] <sv452> unhappy
[21:39] <funkybuby> I have an unusual problem, sound in flash but nothing else
[21:39] <toddobryan> My external monitor for my laptop just stopped working today. I can't get a higher resolution than is available on the laptop's built-in screen.
[21:39] <Mile5> Can someone tell me why my comp can't identify one of my screen when I've got an copy plugged in next to it? they see both and I can use both, but I can't identify/change to the right resolution on the unidentified one...
[21:39] <SaintStewart> Unhappy?  Why?
[21:39] <funkybuby> can anyone help ?
[21:39] <SaintStewart> Todd, which flash plugin you using?
[21:39] <sv452> not getting ati stuff to work on ubuntu 8
[21:40] <toddobryan> SaintStewart: probably the most recent one in the repos. I can check...
[21:40] <Mile5> Can someone tell me why my comp can't identify one of my screen when I've got an copy plugged in next to it? they see both and I can use both, but I can't identify/change to the right resolution on the unidentified one...
[21:40] <funkybuby> i keep searching no sound flash but my problem is the opposite
[21:40] <hyppias> how to setup tightvnc server ?
[21:40] <SaintStewart> sv452,  I have had that problem as well.  To get around that, I install 7.10 and then upgrade to 8.04.  Takes longer yes, but everything works.
[21:41] <Sirex> i just installed 8.04 three times today on ati machines and got dual head working. so its do-able
[21:41] <haddoc1> hello everybody. are there any linux gurus that would like to help out a moderate user?
[21:41] <toddobryan> <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2
[21:41] <stylzP> hyppias:  Preferences > Remote Desktop
[21:41] <funkybuby> anyone know where to start with my sound in flash but nothing else problem ?
[21:41] <sv452> eish ...i not have 7.10 ... and downloading not an option ...
[21:41] <kenkku> haddoc1: please ask your question :)
[21:41] <metalpres> uggg.... theres nothing more frustrating than trying to figure out a problem and then it just goes away.  my drives are working perfect now so I have no clue what was causing it to go really slow for the last few hours and no idea how to fix it next time it happens
[21:41] <RYknow> Any Xbox 360 guru's here?
[21:41] <sv452> all i want is some 3d goodness
[21:42] <funkybuby> i'm a 360guru
[21:42] <funkybuby> what's the problem ?
[21:42] <ComradeHarahu> I have a problem with Firefox stops working and closes down.
[21:42] <RYknow> A buddy had a s60 end up with e red ring of death.
[21:42] <funkybuby> comrade try firefox --safe-mode and disable plugins
[21:42] <RYknow> He bought an elite...and wants all his saved data on his elite
[21:42] <Pelo> I have this issue where I finaly managed to install the binary for geforce FX5200,  it boots fine, I get the nividia splash screen,  login fine,  shortly after I start moving the mouse or type a few characters,  x freezes requiring a hard reboot
[21:43] <funkybuby> phone MS
[21:43] <RYknow> How can I get all the data from his old one, to the knew one
[21:43] <RYknow> new*
[21:43] <RYknow> He already shipped his 360 out, and got it back. It works like a charm.
[21:43] <RYknow> But...
[21:43] <funkybuby> he needs a xbox transfer cabke
[21:43] <haddoc1> kenkku: i was on 7.10 for the longest time and yesterday i decided to upgrade to 8.04. midway through my computer halted and after restarted i end up with a blank screen.. i try to apt-get dist-upgrade.. but it tells me to dpkg --configure -a... i do that.. and it freezes again (freezed while generating locales on en_AU.UTF-8
[21:43] <funkybuby> or use the new DRM tool onxbox.com
[21:43] <Harley^> Howdy
[21:43] <RYknow> All his saved data is on the 20 gig drive of his old one.
[21:43] <tvakah> say, why will pmount not mount an fstab entry marked user?
[21:44] <funkybuby> anyone know where to start with my sound in flash but nothing else problem ?
[21:44] <RYknow> So there's no simple way to network a 360?
[21:44] <Harley^> Is anyone using a MIDI keyboard with Ubuntu successfully ?
[21:44] <RYknow> I was going to try putting it on my network here, but thats useless?
[21:44] <funkybuby> no, it's the DRM that prevents network transfer
[21:44] <RYknow> Ok..
[21:44] <bazz> i need a service that will poll a pop server and forward any messages it finds to a specified email address.  any recommendations for something to do this?
[21:45] <rwk424x> DRM what?
[21:45] <RYknow> Is there a way to do it with Windows MCE?
[21:45] <funkybuby> the transfer it is the simplest, take the elite and the 20 gig to a shop they might do it for him
[21:45] <RYknow> I assume not?
[21:45] <Flannel> bazz: getmail/fetchmail and procmail
[21:45] <rwk424x> RYknow: of course there is
[21:45] <SaintStewart> The best way to network a 360 is to take a sledgehammer to it, and then try to put the pieces back together with superglue.  The pieces will "net work" anymore.  ^_^
[21:45] <funkybuby> no
[21:45] <rwk424x> RYknow: are you talking about streaming?
[21:45] <funkybuby> no
[21:45] <rwk424x> oh okay
[21:45] <bazz> Flannel: will check em out, thanks
[21:45] <funkybuby> transfering data from two xbox hdd's
[21:45] <funkybuby> bye everyone
[21:46] <ZoiX> Hello, i have a HP with touch screen with wacom system, can somebody help me with this feature?
[21:46] <haddoc1> kenkku: so now i'm just wondering if i could just skip that part, or replace en_AU.UTF8
[21:46] <RYknow> I want to pull the information his has on the 20 gig drive of his old 360 off, and put it on the larger drive he has for his elite.
[21:46] <Pelo> ZoiX, start here it might help  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[21:47] <SaintStewart> Ugh, can anyone tell me how to get rid of all the join/leave/quit spam in Xchat?  Ive not used it before...always used mIRC...
[21:47] <RYknow> I was hoping I could just plug his 360 into my network, and be able to browse it from my computer, and just copy and paste the stuff onto my computer. Then just transfer the data to his elite.
[21:47] <bobbob1016> I installed kernel 2.6.24-19, and kept getting white screens when I booted.  I went back to -18, and everything is fine.  I read on the forums some people had problems like that, is there a fix on the way, or should I wait for -20?
[21:47] <rwk424x> RYknow: yeah uh the 360 isnt hacked... the only hacked the fw
[21:48] <SaintStewart> -20 is out, just have to enable the repos for it.
[21:48] <SaintStewart> Im on -20 now.
[21:48] <rwk424x> RYknow: thats possible
[21:48] <kenkku> haddoc1: sorry, I probably can't help you, but someone else might
[21:48] <RYknow> How do I send someone a message?  rwk424x? I see you messaging me specifically, how do I do that?
[21:49] <ZoiX> Pelo: thanks
[21:49] <SaintStewart> Right click their name
[21:49] <SaintStewart> oPen a dialog window
[21:49] <haddoc1> kenkku: it's all good, any idea who may be?
[21:49] <stylzP> SaintStewart:  Right click the channel
[21:49] <RYknow> Ok cool. Thanks
[21:49] <stylzP> :)
[21:49] <kenkku> haddoc1: someone on this channel
[21:49] <Spice> yes
[21:49] <rwk424x> RYknow: im on irssi so i cant pm you, but yes you can clone the hdd, I have a 360 my self with a cloned hdd
[21:49] <Flannel> SaintStewart: for just #ubuntu, right click the channel and uncheck it.  For all channels: /set irc_conf_mode 1
[21:50] <rwk424x> RYknow: but I removed the casing and mounted the hdd with my SATA
[21:50] <Flannel> rwk424x: you can query in irssi.  /msg [nick] [message]
[21:50] <kenkku> haddoc1: the procedure is to ask your question and wait if someone can help you, not ask who can help you
[21:50] <rwk424x> flannel did you see it?
[21:50] <Spice> no\
[21:51] <Spice> hi gabriella
[21:51] <haddoc1> i was wondering if anybody could help me get through an upgrade from 7.10. to 8.04 that froze half way through.. i'm currently stuck in a part during dpkg --configure -a
[21:51] <RYknow> So I can take the little "backpack" with the drive in it apart?
[21:51] <Spice> i dunno
[21:51] <rwk424x> RYknow: thats what i did, it will void your warranty
[21:51] <rwk424x> RYknow: the 360 hdd is just a tiny 2.5" hdd with SATA
[21:52] <RYknow> But it IS a standard SATA?
[21:52] <rwk424x> yeah
[21:52] <Spice> i gotta go
[21:52] <RYknow> Ok cool.
[21:52] <SaintStewart> haddoc1, Do you have anything on the drive you dont want to lose?  If not, then the easiest would be just to reinstall 7.10, then the moment you get to your desktop after install, upgrade to 8.04
[21:52] <RYknow> I might give that a shot then.
[21:52] <Kcaj> Where be my wall papers stored on Ubunty be default?
[21:52] <RYknow> Now...whats this cable someone else mentioned?
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> Kcaj: /usr/share/backgrounds ?
[21:53] <Kcaj> Thank yous
[21:53] <RYknow> There is some special cable that allows you to get the information off one 360, and put it on another?
[21:53] <rwk424x> RYknow: is it just the saves you want?
[21:53] <haddoc1> SaintStewart: i do not want to lose my music collection. however, i do have a spare laptop, 4 gigs worth of memory sticks, and the possibility of an external hard drive thati could use to put some stuff on if it's possible to do any of that through the terminal
[21:53] <RYknow> I believe so. I'm really not sure. It's a friends 360.
[21:54] <SaintStewart> Usually /home/username/pictures for me
[21:54] <RYknow> He wants all his saved data.
[21:54] <RYknow> DRM is gay...
[21:54] <RYknow> lol
[21:54] <rwk424x> I usually agree
[21:54] <routinet> Can someone assist me with partitioning for dual-boot (WinXP/Ubuntu)
[21:54] <rwk424x> but preventing users from cheating is a good thing imo
[21:55] <RYknow> Yeah, I agree with that. But...in this situation. It's gay.
[21:55] <RYknow> It's all the stuff he's worked on. all his saved cars for Forza 2. Tons of custom paint jobs and whatnot.
[21:55] <rwk424x> RYknow: xploder360 <--
[21:55] <aiptex> snoh u there
[21:55] <RYknow> Whats that?
[21:55] <hosk> I need help, I accidentally installed ubuntu-xen-server and now my machine won't boot, I am in the liveCD right now and can't figure out how to uninstall it
[21:55] <snoh> hey aiptex
[21:55] <effenberg> Anyone using ubuntu netbook remix?
[21:55] <aiptex> lol
[21:55] <Odd-rationale> !dualboot | routinet
[21:56] <snoh> you got it working then
[21:56] <aiptex> whats tracey name on here
[21:56] <rwk424x> RYknow: its a tool to transfer just the saves, my solution = the entire hdd
[21:56] <aiptex> yeah easy peasy
[21:56] <snoh> she aint on this one
[21:56] <SaintStewart> routinet, whatchaneed?  When installing ubuntu, it'll give you a chance to resize your xp partition and then use the blank space for ubuntu.
[21:56] <rwk424x> RYknow: that tool will only transfer the saves, my way (sata) clones the entire hdd
[21:56] <bullgard4> What stands 'dtiming' for? see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-use-linux-ddcprobe-command/
[21:56] <routinet> I did read the instructions, and made an attempt.  XP lost it's boot partition, and GRUB says cannot mount partition
[21:56] <RYknow> hmmm, ok.
[21:57] <Newbie02> Anyone care to answer a technical question regarding viewing movies on UBUNTU??? please
[21:57] <Mile5> Can someone tell me why my comp can't identify one of my screen when I've got an copy plugged in next to it? they see both and I can use both, but I can't identify/change to the right resolution on the unidentified one...
[21:57] <routinet> there's a screenshot of my gparted here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Setup/Q_23596424.html
[21:57] <hosk> I need help, I accidentally installed ubuntu-xen-server and now my machine won't boot, I am in the liveCD right now and can't figure out how to uninstall it, anybody have a link, a howto, anything?
[21:57] <SaintStewart> effenberg, id love to use the netbook gui to try it out, but the last i knew, the only way to use the images was through a virtualization machine.
[21:57] <stickwithjosh> I've got 8.04 installed in a partition via bootcamp on my MBP, is there any way to access my /home/user directory on the Mac OS X side of things ? I've got the partition mounted but it won't show me any files inside of the home directory because I'm not authenticated.
[21:57] <Odd-rationale> !video | Newbie02
[21:57] <rwk424x> RYknow: i have to go now, good luck dude, xploder360 is probably the easiest way in your case
[21:58] <RYknow> Cool, thanks for your help man!
[21:58] <mattspry> omg hai zorin!!
[21:58] <SaintStewart> Macs rule.  I love my Macbook.  Unfortunately, I dont know the answer to your question.
[21:59] <Odd-rationale> routinet: which one is your xp partiton and which one is your linux partiton?
[21:59] <routinet> sda5 is/was winxp.  sda6 is data.  sda1 was left open for linux, but XP but it's boot there
[22:00] <Mile5> Can someone tell me why my comp can't identify one of my screen when I've got an copy plugged in next to it? they see both and I can use both, but I can't identify/change to the right resolution on the unidentified one...
[22:00] <adii> how can I see if my network card is working with the module skge ?
[22:00] <Mile5> Is there anyone who's good with displays here?
[22:00] <routinet> during install, I repartitioned sda1 for ~25g / and /home, ~5g swap
[22:00] <SaintStewart> Im sorry if someone answered, but can anyone tell me how to shut off all the disconnects/quits/joins spam please?
[22:00] <mattspry> snap|l3thal: omg hai!
[22:00] <Myrtti> SaintStewart: depends on your client
[22:00] <SaintStewart> Xchat
[22:01] <SaintStewart> Direct from Ubuntu repos.
[22:01] <Odd-rationale> routinet: ok. if you just going to do 30gb, i'd do 10gb / and 10 gb /home
[22:01] <Odd-rationale> 20 gb home
[22:01] <snap|l3thal> mattspry,  OMG HAI
[22:01] <Pelo> SaintStewart, got xchat or xchat gnome ?
[22:01] <SaintStewart> Xchat.  Im on Kubuntu.
[22:01] <hyppias> with vnc to my ubuntu box, I get just a grey screen on my win XP ... why ? why not the gnome desktop ?
[22:01] <haddoc1> SaintStewart: after all i did, now my terminal isn't starting up, looks like i'm gonna ahve to bite the bullet
[22:02] <NeXT> Does ubuntu support AMD64 proccessors?
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> routinet: other than that, just tell the installer to not format sda5, and you should be good...
[22:02] <Pelo> SaintStewart, right click on the channel name either in the tab at the bottom or in the tree view on the left ,  check the hide join/part msg
[22:02] <DRebellion> NeXT, yes
[22:02] <mattspry> SaintStewart: konversation is a better client for qt
[22:02] <NeXT> Thank you DRebellion
[22:02] <routinet> brb...gonna install mirc.  mibbit is...well...brb
[22:03] <RazorBeamz> How can I change the color of my icons to green? gnome-look has no green ones I like
[22:03] <SaintStewart> AH!  BLESS YOU ALL.
 How can I change the color of my icons to green? gnome-look has no green ones I like
[22:03] <SaintStewart> Thank you all for the flood of tells.  No more spamage.
[22:03] <SaintStewart> Yay
 How can I change the color of my icons to green? gnome-look has no green ones I like
[22:04] <routinet> SaintStewart: can you pass the secret my way also?
[22:04] <Myrtti> RazorBeamz: we saw your question on the two first times too
[22:04] <Odd-rationale> routinet: so you are onw windows right now?
[22:04] <routinet> Odd-rationale: yes, different box
[22:04] <Abed> hey guys i wanna use camorama for testing my cam but the camorama says no device attached to /dev/video0,however, i am can use it while making a video call in aMSN
[22:04] <SaintStewart> routinet, if youre using Xchat, over on the left side of the screen is the #ubuntu channel name....right click on it and uncheck joins/parts
[22:04] <Sirex> RazorBeamz, if you wiggle your monitor lead a bit the whoel screen will go green.
[22:05] <Harley^> Would someone please help me. I need to get the DEFAULTS back for jackd
[22:05] <Harley^> PLEASE HELP
[22:05] <Myrtti> Sirex: we prefer good, sound, real answers and help
[22:05] <routinet> on mirc...been so long since I've been on IRC
[22:05] <Sirex> sorry :)
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> routinet: well, just install ubuntu on sda1...
[22:05] <SaintStewart> routinet, me too!  Ive not chatted in IRC for....7, maybe 8 years?  I used to run/own my own IRC network.  lol
[22:06] <haddoc1> SaintStewart: yeah i saw it.. i'm trying to boot cd now to see if i could access the files... if not, then i'm just gonna reinstall (i'd be borrowing the usb hd)
[22:06] <Nacht> Hello and pardon me, I just got ubuntu recently on my computer, and it won't run a lot of installation disks I have for things.  Could someone be so kind as to help me rectify this?
[22:06] <Odd-rationale> routinet: make sure you format it to ext3 though...
[22:06] <routinet> whew...that's better
[22:06] <stefan__> hi!
[22:06] <stickwithjosh> Sorry to repeat, but to be more clear, is there a way to mount a HFS partition as a authorized user (passing a user / pass in the mount command) with HH ?
[22:06] <stefan__> Alt+Shift, Scroll Lock diode lights up?
[22:06] <routinet> Odd-rationale: I did, but GRUB says cannot mount partition
[22:07] <joomla_user> stickwithjosh, i don't think so
[22:07] <routinet> during install, i repartitioned sda1 into ~25g for / and ~5g for swap
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> routinet: after the install?
[22:07] <routinet> then it asked me where to put the boot loader, and I chose sda
[22:07] <joomla_user> 1g swap i enough
[22:07] <joomla_user> more then
[22:07] <Harley^> How can I fix this ?
[22:08] <routinet> after install, grub loaded, lists two ubuntu (one normal, one recovery) but neither will mount
[22:08] <routinet> winxp boot is way gone
[22:08] <SaintStewart> Nacht, Im guessing you just came from Windows?  If so, your install disks wont work on Ubuntu unless you run some other special software called WINE....and even then, you might still not be able to.  Linux is entirely different than Windows, like a Mac is.
[22:08] <Abed> hey guys i wanna use camorama for testing my cam but the camorama says no device attached to /dev/video0,however, i am can use it while making a video call in aMSN
[22:08] <Nacht> SaintStewart Yes I did
[22:08] <cviorel> hi
[22:08] <stefan__> Alt+Shift, Scroll Lock diode lights up? How comes this? Pretty strange :)
[22:08] <Nacht> SaintStewart Where can I find the software for that?
[22:08] <routinet> you see a pic of the original partitioning here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Setup/Q_23596424.html
[22:08] <Abed> cviorel how can we help u?
[22:08] <cviorel> can I get a helping hand on configuring pulseaudio?
[22:08] <haddoc1> SaintStewart: no extra hard drive, or extra money =]..
[22:08] <PucKid> Hi everyone. I have a webcam, WCam 300a. I searched google but i didn't manage to find anything. Could you give me a start point to install the webcam on Ubuntu 8.04. ?
[22:09] <Abed> PucKid try sudo apt-get camorama
[22:09] <PucKid> thank you Abed, i'll try that
[22:09] <routinet> so...I'll reinstall WinXP on sda5.  It will again use sda1 for ntldr.  What do I do from there?
[22:09] <Abed> PucKid ok
[22:09] <genii> Nacht: You would be better off to first try to see if the things you want to try and install from te installation cds comes in a native linux program first, and then install that.
[22:10] <PucKid> Abed: it sais this : E: Invalid operation camorama
[22:10] <PucKid> oh yeah *install camorama :P
[22:10] <Abed> PucKid sorry it is sudo apt-get install camorama
[22:10] <Nacht> genii - I'm just trying to get my wireless interenet adapter
[22:10] <PucKid> Abed:  yes, i tried it that way, now it works
[22:10] <Abed> then try camorama in the terminal
[22:11] <haddoc1> SaintStewart: yeah i could grab the files so i'm just gonna do that. thank you man, atleast i didn't lose all these files in a rash decision to just install.. now i just hope that external is usb heh. thanks a lot man enjoy
[22:11] <PucKid> one moment, it's still installing
[22:11] <Abed> PucKid take ur time
[22:11] <stefan__> can somebody please help me!
[22:11] <Odd-rationale> routinet: a better partitoning scheme would be to have xp in sda1 as a primary partiton, sda2 for data as primary. and ubuntu on sda3 as primary and swap in sda5 as logical.
[22:12] <PucKid> Abed: i got only a grey screen
[22:12] <compmanio365> hey guys, can I get some help with installing a cursor pack
[22:12] <Odd-rationale> routinet: so if you are going to reinstall windows. i'd do that. also, install windows first. then ubuntu...
[22:12] <Abed> PucKid try this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/17099
[22:12] <Abed> and send me the result
[22:12] <routinet> I can't touch sda6...no space for the backup  :(
[22:12] <PucKid> Abed: okay, let me see
[22:12] <Abed> PucKid okay
[22:12] <routinet> but I can destroy sda5 and sda1 no problem
[22:13] <cviorel> is someone using Audigy 1 on Ubunut 8.04?
[22:13] <haddoc1> SaintStewart: haha gotta learn somewhere right? and i'll put it this way if it weren't for all themistakes i've made, i wouldn't have any knowledge now you know?
[22:13] <routinet> I know I need XP first.  Where should I put it, and what partitioning should I use when I get into Ubuntu?
[22:13] <genii> stefan__: Please ask only in either #ubuntu if you have Gnome OR #kubuntu if you have KDE and not both.
[22:13] <haddoc1> aight have a good weekend saint
[22:13] <PucKid> Abed: it's being recognised : Bus 003 Device 002: ID 055f:d003 Mustek Systems, Inc.
[22:13] <compmanio365> not able to find where I need to go to install these new cursors I downloaded, in tar.gz format
[22:13] <crimsun_> cviorel: what's the issue?
[22:13] <Abed> PucKid ok keep on reading bro
[22:13] <aiptex> good evening all
[22:13] <PucKid> alright (:
[22:13] <vaylence> When I try to install, ubuntu shoots straight to the partitioner, it does not give me the screen to format the entire drive, any ideas on how to fix that?
[22:14] <stefan__> genii I got Gnome :)
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> routinet: ok. well then get rid of sda5, and shrink the logical partition to fit sda6. put xp in sda1 and ubuntu in sda2 and swap in sda3
[22:14] <cviorel> crimsun_, the issue is that the bass is not redirected
[22:14] <snoh> evening aiptex
[22:14] <Moktar> how does one view dhcp option recv'd from the server?
[22:14] <genii> stefan__: Then ask here
[22:14] <cviorel> so, my subwoofer plays nothing :(
[22:14] <aiptex> heres a posser for u sis onboard lan not being recognized any suggestions
[22:14] <Cheese> ok.... so the open source ATI driver didn't work
[22:14] <Sirex> cviorel, yes. and i got it working litrally yesterday
[22:14] <stefan__> Alt+Shift, Scroll Lock diode lights up? How comes this? Pretty strange :) How can I disable this?
[22:14] <Sirex> ill msg you
[22:15] <Cheese> I mean, it "worked" but didn't speed up 3d hardly at all and dual head is still FUBAR
[22:15] <Odd-rationale> routinet: actaully, let me reword that...
[22:15] <koopa> hi guys, I was tryin to run a program with wine installed from ubuntu repos and got this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/30397/
[22:15] <tingle> because ubuntu it prolly asking much from my notebook it gets a fan accleration every min or so cant i just turn the rpm from my notebook fan higher for ever?
[22:15] <Cheese> some improvement over the generic default driver, but not much as really my goal is to get dual head working with my Radeon 9600
[22:15] <PucKid> Abed: i still don't see my kind of cam in that forum :|
[22:15] <cviorel> Sirex do you have sound from subwoofer too?
[22:15] <koopa> can some one give it a look and tell me what im doin wrong??
[22:15] <Sirex> yea, i got mp3 going right now
[22:16] <Odd-rationale> routinet: sda2 is the logical partition. delete sda5 and shrink sda2 to fit sda6. then install windows in sda1 (primary partitoin) and ubuntu in sda3 (primary partiton).
[22:16] <Cheese> I've upgraded Ubuntu multiple times over the years and never have gotten this card to work with dual heads.  I got close years ago on Debian, but had to do the whole thing from source and it took forever
[22:16] <routinet> Odd-rationale: the first part of this will be done in XP's partioner...I'm loading XP setup now
[22:16] <Cheese> I'm about ready to take this computer out to a field, fill it with tannerite... and shoot the darn thing..... then get a new comp with an Nvidia card
[22:17] <Dfronius> Hi everyone.
[22:17] <Dfronius> I'm having another problem
[22:17] <snoh> hi Dfronius
[22:17] <SaintStewart> CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE!  MMMM!  lol
[22:17] <aiptex> sis900 onboard lan not working under ubuntu anyone have any ideas
[22:17] <vadims> hey!!! can somebody give me advice - what I could check, something wrong with sound output in VLC Player... if I am trying to check online stream through the web browser - everything is working - and I can hear sound , but not through VLC :| Can somebody manage me in some way ?
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> routinet: it might be easiest to use gparted to format and resize all the partitons, then use the installed to use the already formatted paritons...
[22:18] <SaintStewart> Cheese, Did Ubuntu 7.10 not work for ya?
[22:18] <Dfronius> I just tried to install a radeon 9259 video card into my system. It didn't work, so I decided to stick with my onboard for the time being. So, I removed the card, set my bios back to onboard graphics, and now my display is behaving oddly
[22:18] <Cheese> SaintStewart - same problems back then.  I just gave up eventually and used single-head.  It sucks though that I bought a second LCD monitor that I've never been able to use.
[22:18] <Dfronius> Radeon 9250, not 9259
[22:18] <Moktar> n/m, figared it out
[22:18] <routinet> Odd-rationale: OK if I /msg?
[22:18] <Abed> PucKid test the rest and if it doesn't work on google with ur cam name and ur os { ubuntu}
[22:19] <Fun1> can any one help me set the olines for dancer-ircd?
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> routinet: you need to be registered to pm...
[22:19] <Cheese> I don't really care about 3d.  I just want the darn second head to work.
[22:19] <Dfronius> I ran sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo depmod -a from terminal.
[22:19] <routinet> Odd-rationale: can I register here?
[22:19] <PucKid> Abed: okay, thank you (:
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> routinet: you can /join #Odd-rationale
[22:19] <stefan__> none knows?
[22:19] <Fun1> can any one help me set the olines for dancer-ircd?
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> !register | routinet
[22:19] <koopa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30397/ wine problem... can someone help me?
[22:20] <stefan__> can somebody tell me how to change my monitor frequency?
[22:20] <joaopinto> Fun1, not really, please search for the dancer ircd support channel and/or read the documentation
[22:20] <SaintStewart> Wine sucks.  Drink Smirnoff.  :P
[22:20] <stefan__> I use nvidia-glx-new restricted drivers
[22:20] <aiptex> can anyone manage me  sis900 onboard lan not working
[22:20] <routinet> I msg'd nickserv...waiting on the email now  ;)
[22:20] <teremia> heloo
[22:21] <vadims> quit busy :|
[22:21] <Abed> PucKid don't forget to tell me the result
[22:21] <routinet> good to know I still remember SOME of this..hehe
[22:21] <KentonSmith> Hi. I got a "No setup signature found..." message when I booted from a Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD. The PC is currently running Windoze. No Linux installed at all (yet). Can anyone help?
[22:21] <teremia> who speak with me
[22:21] <teremia> ?
[22:21] <cviorel> Sirex
[22:21] <joaopinto> teremia, just ask your question
[22:21] <Dfronius> if I try to do sudo aptitude remove linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo depmod -a, it tells me Remove the following packages: jockey-common jockey-gtk linux-generic ubuntu-desktop Score is 326 Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
[22:21] <routinet> Odd-rationale: now OK if I /msg?
[22:22] <vadims> hmm.. is there anybody free now ? :)
[22:22] <Odd-rationale> routinet: sure... i;m not en expert though. there are more experts here...
[22:22] <Dfronius> hi vadi
[22:22] <alf> #ubuntu-es
[22:23] <KDB9000> I need some help in mounting a Vista hard drive. I am trying to copy files from the messed up vista to my external so I can work on vista without worrying about data lost.
[22:23] <vadims> Dfronius, have you read my issue ? :(
[22:23] <vadims> hey!!! can somebody give me advice - what I could check, something wrong with sound output in VLC Player... if I am trying to check online stream through the web browser - everything is working - and I can hear sound , but not through VLC :| Can somebody manage me in some way ?
[22:23] <crimsun_> cviorel: pastebin the output from `amixer -c0', please
[22:23] <Dfronius> vadims: no. What is it?
[22:23] <crimsun_> cviorel: then tell us the url of your paste
[22:23] <zcat[1]> !ntfs | KDB9000
[22:24] <Cheese> going to flip a coin as to whether to blow up my computer or keep trying... later all good luck with whatever issues you're all working on
[22:24] <snoh> lol
[22:24] <vadims> Dfronius, i checked already , preference -> audio output -> ALSA output - it's done in vlc :|
[22:25] <KentonSmith> To repeat: I got a "No setup signature found..." message when I booted from a Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD. The PC is currently running Windoze. No Linux installed at all (yet). Can anyone help?
[22:25] <Dfronius> vadims: what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:25] <Fun1> can any one help me set the olines for dancer-ircd? or point me 2 a room 2 go 2
[22:25] <Sirex> cviorel, yea ?
[22:25] <Sirex> pm
[22:25] <vadims> Dfronius, dont have sound
[22:26] <Dfronius> vadims: are your speakers turned on?
[22:26] <haddoc1> before i go, does anyone know where firefox saves it's bulletins?
[22:26] <Stargazer> I need a guide on compiling Flock
[22:26] <haddoc1> err bookmarks
[22:26] <Dfronius> vadims: lol kidding. You are using your onboard, or you have a card?
[22:26] <cviorel> http://pastebin.com/m44a8f3b3
[22:26] <KentonSmith> OK. I'll try to get help somewhere else.
[22:26] <vadims> Dfronius, through virtual box
[22:27] <vadims> Dfronius, so , it's virtualized
[22:27] <Dfronius> vadims: nevermind. If it was hardware, I could help.
[22:27] <Dfronius> vadims: sorry
[22:27] <Xsss4hell> Where is the difference between daily-live and daily for hardy on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/hardy/ ??
[22:27] <zcat[1]> haddoc1: ~/.mozilla/firefox/{randomstuff}.default/bookmarks.html
[22:27] <vadims> Dfronius, Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller
[22:28] <Dfronius> vadims: laptop?
[22:28] <geoffrey> hi all
[22:28] <vadims> Dfronius, true. lenovo t61
[22:28] <vadims> Dfronius, system: hardy 8.04
[22:29] <xlukasx> whats up fellas?
[22:29] <vadims> Dfronius, kernel: 2.6.24-19-generic
[22:29] <KDB9000> zcat[1]: I read that and did "sudo fdisk -l" the it said there was no valid partition tables on the hard drive. I know there is vista on the machine because it can boot into a recovery screen to repair it.
[22:29] <Pici> Xsss4hell: Those are both for testing purposes, not for installation for regular users.  One is a liveCD the other is not.  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/release/ should be used for the regular stable download location
[22:29] <Ecologger> anyone have agateway laptop and can only use 3/4 of the screen for desktop?
[22:29] <muppetexperience> How can I have multiple desktop sessions for the same user?
[22:29] <xlukasx> 1300 people, alot of problems or alot of help? lol
[22:30] <OmiKrOn> hey how do I install a older php package rather then the one currently available? is there anyway to get historic packages?
[22:30] <Sansen_> :))
[22:30] <robsz> how do i get rid of all the packages i apt-install'd lol
[22:30] <zcat[1]> KDB9000, weird.
[22:30] <Xsss4hell> Pici, I want the latest hardy with all updates included
[22:30] <Xsss4hell> Pici, not a alpha or so, just an updated cd
[22:30] <KDB9000> zcat[1]: yes it is.
[22:31] <zcat[1]> KDB9000, it ought to be plain old ntfs... I have very little experience with vista though. Not an encrypted fs is it?
[22:31] <histo_> test
[22:31] <Stargazer> I need help on compiling Flock (Web browser)
[22:31] <joaopinto> OmiKrOn, no, you will need to install them from source
[22:31] <OmiKrOn> crap
[22:31] <joaopinto> Stargazer, you can get the latest stable flock package from getdeb
[22:31] <zcat[1]> KDB9000, also make sure that's the correct drive and you're not looking at some meory card reader by mistake...
[22:32] <joaopinto> flock has a lot of dependencies (in case you plan to compile it), and it does not use a common build system, which makes it harder to build
[22:32] <Pici> Xsss4hell: Those CD images have not been thoroughly tested, they are not meant for regular users to download.  We do not generate CD images every day normally for a released version of Ubuntu.  Use the url I gave you for the dvd images or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.1/ for regular CD isos for the best way to install Ubuntu with most of the updates.
[22:32] <david123> how can i get xfce themes and window managers like meenee to run in gnome/ubuntu? I've already tried sudo aptitude install xfwm4 but it does not bring it up?
[22:32] <vadims> Dfronius, if I /msg to you - is it ok with you ? its quit busy in public
[22:32] <KDB9000> zcat[1]: the drive shows up in the My Computer (and in Places) and I have tried mounting it from there, no luck
[22:32] <Dfronius> vadims: sure, but I don't think I can help with the issue you are having
[22:33] <Xsss4hell> Pici, updating causes errors sometimes
[22:33] <histo> Finally got my nick back
[22:33] <PucKid> good night (:
[22:33] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: alright thank you for the directory of the bookmark backup.. would you happen to know if i could get the passwords back?
[22:34] <Xsss4hell> Pici, that's why I wanted the latest updates included. So I can download daily-live and isntall ubuntu?
[22:35] <Stargazer> Hey joaopinto, do you know of a way to convert *.tar.gz into *.deb ?
[22:35] <zcat[1]> haddoc1, if they're saved, edit > preferences > security > saved passwords > show passwords
[22:35] <joaopinto> Stargazer, that is not possible
[22:35] <Pici> Xsss4hell: I do not reccomend it. Use the regular 8.04.1 images and just update. You are less likely to run into issues that way.
[22:35] <Stargazer> Oh
[22:35] <joaopinto> .tar.gz are usually source files, where .deb are binary debian packages
[22:35] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: i'm going through the live cd, i can't get onto ubuntu, couldonly access the file system
[22:35] <KDB9000> zcat[1]: I wonder if it could be the way I am trying to do it. It is a laptop SATA drive and I am using a vantec SATA/IDE to USB converter to try and read it. It worked with my other laptop drive (IDE) and a SATA hard drive
[22:35] <zcat[1]> joaopinto, it's possible.. it's just not easy!! You have to figure out how to build a package..
[22:36] <Zero___> whenever i watch a flash video on surfthechannel,  youtube etc, if its fullscreen its choppy as hell, is there a way to fix that?
[22:36] <joaopinto> zcat[1], that is not a conversion, that is a package building process, which was not the question
[22:36] <KDB9000> zcat[1]: I got it. It might have been the way I plugged everything in
[22:36] <zcat[1]> joaopinto, nitpick...
[22:38] <Stargazer> Danke joaopinto
[22:38] <zcat[1]> haddoc1, no idea how to get to them then, sorry
[22:38] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: no problem heh.
[22:39] <david123> hi can i get xfce themes/window managers to run in gnome? like meenee
[22:39] <remicks916> Hello I'm having a problem with the GUI for useradd on Hardy using gnome desktop. The unlock button is greyed out so I can't add or delete any users or anything from my box. Has anyone else had this issue and/or know how to resolve it?
[22:39] <zcat[1]> haddoc1, you can just backup all of ~/.mozilla/firefox and restore it after reinstall..
[22:39] <AMDpenguin> whats a good video editor?
[22:39] <zcat[1]> AMDpenguin, kino
[22:40] <haddoc1> just save it all you are saying?
[22:40] <will00> i have a quick question, im setting up a comp for my little brother (its gonna run windows xp) and i need to figure out which would offer better performance as far as online gaming, 1.2 ghz amd with 768mb ram, or 2.0 ghz intel with 512 mb ram?
[22:40] <zcat[1]> haddoc1, that works..
[22:40] <remicks916> Alternatively, is there an alternate GUI based program I can use to add/delete users from my PC?
[22:41] <Ecologger> I wouldn't game with ubuntu unless its native
[22:41] <zcat[1]> !ot | will00 ask on windows ?
[22:42] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: saving.
[22:42] <yolli> hello i am installing flash player and is asking me this...what do i have to type here?....Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[22:42] <yolli> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[22:42] <yolli> i pasted the example but doesnt work
[22:42] <haddoc1> will00: i'd say go for the 2.0 and 512.. you could always upgrade the memory
[22:42] <haddoc1> plus 768 doesn't sound right
[22:43] <zcat[1]> haddoc1, 512M + 256M ?
[22:43] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: heard it's not the best to mix and match
[22:43] <Xsss4hell> Regarding binomic formula: is a²+2ab+b² the same as a²+a²+b²+b²?? I mean can/should you solve 2ab??
[22:44] <zcat[1]> haddoc1, could be 3x 256M
[22:44] <cviorel> crimsun_, here you go http://pastebin.com/d6484d3c3
[22:44] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: good call didn't think of that.
[22:44] <zcat[1]> !ot | Xsss4hell wtf?
[22:44] <robsz> if i run 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' will it get rid of all the other packages it installed with it?
[22:44] <haddoc1> zcat[1]: still already has the faster processor in it
[22:44] <remicks916> so noone knows?
[22:44] <ZimCS> hey guys, i am trying to edit the /etc/motd, but every time i save it and reboot it just comes back as it was before.  does anyone know why this is happening?
[22:44] <Xsss4hell> lol it was just a short question man
[22:45] <Pici> ZimCS: man motd.tail  and try editing /etc/motd.tail
[22:45] <zcat[1]> I don't come here for algebra!
[22:45] <KDB9000> zcat[1]: It appears to have an invalid ntfs signature and won't mount.
[22:45] <Xsss4hell> zcat[1], kk
[22:45] <ZimCS> thanks
[22:45] <robsz> :|
[22:46] <Xsss4hell> Grub error 24 :(( ?
[22:46] <remicks916> Hello I'm having a problem with the GUI for useradd on Hardy using gnome desktop. The unlock button is greyed out so I can't add or delete any users or anything from my box. Has anyone else had this issue and/or know how to resolve it?
[22:46] <remicks916> Alternatively, is there an alternate GUI based program I can use to add/delete users from my PC?
[22:47] <crimsun_> cviorel: sec
[22:48] <cviorel> no problem crimsun_ , i'll wait
[22:48] <crimsun_> cviorel: unmute 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo'
[22:48] <elexodus> Hey all, just got an
[22:48] <elexodus>
[22:48] <elexodus> HP ProLiant BL30p Server Dual Xeon 3.06Ghz 3Gb
[22:48] <Abed> problem while using camorama anyone?
[22:48] <elexodus> what should I do with it?
[22:48] <crimsun_> cviorel: also, does `aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' give you audible audio through the subwoofer?
[22:49] <robsz> ill take it off your hands for $50
[22:49] <jacob_n> In Hardy, is it possibly to downgrade the Japanese fonts so they look like they used to in Gutsy and earlier?
[22:49] <elexodus> robsz: have much experience with the likes?
[22:50] <LinuxIST> there is a software that controls quick access buttons but cant remember the name--anyone know?
[22:50] <robsz> elexodus: heh no.  im a noob trying to get gnome working but failing ;p
[22:50] <soundray> LinuxIST: keytouch?
[22:50] <cviorel> nope crimsun_ , unmuted 4 speaker stereo but no sound in subwoofer
[22:50] <LinuxIST> soundray, yes, thats it-- thanks so much
[22:50] <crimsun_> cviorel: did you try the aplay command I gave you above/
[22:50] <Abed> problem while running camorama
[22:51] <elexodus> Anybody have any experience working with servers?
[22:51] <robsz> usually you'd want to put it to use.. mail server or something.. heh
[22:51] <cviorel> crimsun_, tried that and I get sound only from the center speaker
[22:51] <soundray> remicks916: are you a member of the admin group?
[22:52] <crimsun_> cviorel: then you need a custom routing table via asoundrc.
[22:52] <remicks916> yes soundray
[22:52] <crimsun_> cviorel: or you need to manually adjust the mapping via /etc/pulse/default.pa
[22:52] <remicks916> and it appears usermod and useradd arent working correctly either
[22:52] <crimsun_> cviorel: (both are google-able)
[22:52] <tuxnub> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu for my parents, made them accounts but can't figure out how to enable face browsing or list for the login screen ala windows?
[22:53] <pbrown985> why would you install unbuntu for your parents?
[22:53] <cviorel> that's ok crimsun_ done that
[22:53] <soundray> remicks916: does sudo adduser work?
[22:53] <cviorel> thought that I missed out something
[22:53] <ttwaro> Bear with me, I've never use IRC before. Let me know if I should be somewhere else. I was sent here from an ubuntu forum. I have an HP laptop (dv6258se) that I have installed 8.04 on. I'm using the gnome desktop which is new to me but I like very much. Anyway, my immediate problem is a blank screen after my computer is idle for an extended period of time. I responds to caps-lock, etc but won't display anything. I have to ctrl-alt-backspace to get out of it
[22:53] <ttwaro> and lose whatever I was doing. Anyone have any ideas how to rectify this. It didn't use to do this.
[22:53] <robsz> this is why getting linux is hard.  i just want to get gnome working on my server but not include all the apps from ubuntu-desktop but no answers available
[22:53] <yolli> where i can get the non-free-codecs?
[22:53] <cviorel> I'll keep searching
[22:53] <soundray> remicks916: e.g. 'sudo adduser remicks somegroup'
[22:54] <kenkku> ttwaro: try changing to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1 and then back to X with ctrl+alt+f7
[22:54] <remicks916> yeah that workd it hink
[22:54] <remicks916> i think* testing
[22:54] <crimsun_> robsz: easily show via `apt-cache search ^gnome-desktop'
[22:55] <crimsun_> robsz: e.g., you probably want gnome-desktop-environment
[22:55] <kenkku> ttwaro: once you press the first keys, it should take you to a text-only login window. when you press the second shortcut, it goes back to the graphical environment
[22:55] <crimsun_> sorry, shown*
[22:55] <remicks916> how would i add that new account to admins soundray ?
[22:55] <zvacet> yolli :    http://www.medibuntu.org/
[22:55] <soundray> ttwaro: you've come to the right place. I would first check in System-Preferences-Power Management and System-Preferences-Screensaver whether anything in there might explain the unwanted blanking
[22:55] <remicks916> ie: allow SUDO for the new account
[22:55] <elexodus> robsz: I was thinking ftp/gaming
[22:55] <robsz> crimsun_: will that give me just a core gnome install?
[22:56] <crimsun_> cviorel: what did you try, the ttable routing and/or PA mapping?
[22:56] <soundray> remicks916: if it's a new user account you're creating, it's a two step process. First you do 'sudo adduser newusername', then 'sudo adduser newusername admin'
[22:56] <ttwaro> I'll try that next time. thx. I also have problem with suspend and hibernate but that's another thing. Is there something to do that will prevent me doing ctrl-alt-f1, etc.?
[22:56] <cviorel> crimsun_, done that
[22:56] <SlimG> How do I check my unmounted harddrive for sectorfaults (preferable CLI)?
[22:56] <remicks916> ty so much soundray
[22:56] <earthling> which file do i edit to change the PATH value in my 8.04 .. i cant find any field for that in .bashrc
[22:56] <remicks916> worked fine
[22:56] <ttwaro> soundray: What would I look for?
[22:56] <crimsun_> cviorel: both?
[22:57] <crimsun_> cviorel: if so, pastebin both
[22:57] <remicks916> this is why i love ubuntu
[22:57] <burkesbythebay> any tips for setting up a ubuntu box for my parents
[22:57] <remicks916> best support ever :)
[22:57] <crimsun_> robsz: gnome-core
[22:57] <lionfish> Evening all, I was wondering if anyone could help with how I can compile drivers (I put a msg on the forum... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869284 ).
[22:57] <remicks916> burkesbythebay: what do they plan on using it for?
[22:57] <vadims> anybody can help with ALSA settings setup ?
[22:57] <Abed> problem while using camorama
[22:57] <lionfish> vadims: What's up?
[22:57] <SlimG> How do I check my unmounted harddrive for sectorfaults (preferable CLI)?
[22:57] <AMDpenguin> how is kdenlive?
[22:57] <robsz> how much linux can i learn in a day i wonder..
[22:57] <vadims> lionfish, can /msg ? its quit busy in public
[22:58] <robsz> an hour even
[22:58] <earthling> which file do i edit to change the PATH value in my 8.04 .. i cant find any field for that in .bashrc
[22:58] <neurobuntu> So I can't sudo anymore it says that I'm no longer in the sudoers file... What can I do to fix this?  I'm logged into my computer over SSH and I need to get my sudo powers back ASAP
[22:58] <|PiP|> y nbalive
[22:58] <elexodus> tuxnub: it's in system>administration>login window
[22:58] <lionfish> sure vadims: I'm new to linux though so might not be able to help.
[22:58] <burkesbythebay> Internet and word processing
[22:58] <elexodus> Anybody have any experience working with servers?
[22:58] <vadims> lionfish, the same as me ;)
[22:58] <soundray> ttwaro: you mean you can recover from the suspend problem by hiting Ctrl-Alt-F1 then Ctrl-Alt-F7?
[22:58] <th0r> neurobuntu, if you don't have root access, you cannot grant yourself root access
[22:58] <soundray> *hitting
[22:58] <afallenhope> Anyone know where the support channel is for ufw? I'm trying to block the ICMP request/reply and I did everything mentioned on the docs/support site.. and I'm still pingable
[22:58] <cviorel> crimsun_, http://pastebin.com/d55d2a0d1
[22:58] <hhp2k> Hey guys, anyone have a solution to run a screensaver in replacement for Ubuntu's desktop background?
[22:59] <neurobuntu> th0r, what about logging into the root account?
[22:59] <soundray> earthling: you can change it system-wide in /etc/environment
[22:59] <scottf> i'm having trouble with xsane and my scanjet 4070 HP scanner
[22:59] <th0r> neurobuntu, only if you have previously enabled that....I believe root ssh is disabled by default
[22:59] <kenkku> neurobuntu: you can't log in to the root account by default in ubuntu
[22:59] <Fah> so I have emerald configured and working, but how do you setup the cube desktop changer?
[23:00] <zvacet> elexodus : try on #ubuntu-server
[23:00] <ttwaro> soundray: No, suspend and hibernate do NOT work for me. They both freeze trying to suspend.
[23:00] <neurobuntu> th0r, kenkku,  I know it is possible to login to the root account if you can get your hands on the ubuntu root pw
[23:00] <crimsun_> cviorel: and asoundrc?
[23:00] <cviorel> crimsun_, http://pastebin.com/d4f336cc2
[23:00] <Abed> i can't use the bluetooth or in another words i can't enable it
[23:00] <SeveredCross> neurobuntu: Actually, there's no root password.
[23:00] <th0r> don't you just love newbies who know the answer before asking the question
[23:00] <SeveredCross> The root account is more or less disabled.
[23:00] <robsz> i think i fried ubuntu with all my weird apt-get's
[23:00] <cviorel> crimsun_, what am I doing wrong here
[23:00] <neurobuntu> So is there no way for me to get SUDO back without having physical access to my computer?
[23:00] <crimsun_> cviorel: is the latter your -entire- ~/.asoundrc?
[23:01] <lionfish> SlimG: Did you want to check for bad blocks?
[23:01] <neurobuntu> ok once I have physical access what can I do to get root access back?
[23:01] <kenkku> neurobuntu: the root account does not have a password set by default, which prevents logging in as root. you can still gain root priviliges if you have physical access to the machine
[23:01] <lionfish> Or for screwed up file sytem?
[23:01] <soundray> ttwaro: the first stop is to look at /etc/default/acpi-support -- see if any of the things you can change in there make a difference. The video-related ones often do.
[23:01] <cviorel> crimsun_, yeap
[23:01] <crimsun_> cviorel: well, you're not using it by default for one...
[23:01] <scottf> does anyone here know anything about xsane backends?
[23:01] <lionfish> SlimG: use fsck to check for problems with the FS, and badblocks to check for bad blocks
[23:01] <soundray> neurobuntu: what's the problem with your sudo?
[23:01] <neurobuntu> When I get physical access on monday what are the steps I need to take to get root access back?
[23:01] <earthling> soundray : k. thanks.. now what if i am not a super user and would only like this new path to be for my id
[23:01] <lionfish> (don't run them on a mounted fs)
[23:01] <sfire> neurobuntu: you could log in using the recovery mode and modify the sudo'ers file
[23:01] <elexodus> My machine won't let me change ownership of a seperate partician from root.
[23:02] <crimsun_> cviorel: does `aplay -Dplug:ch51dup /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' work?
[23:02] <neurobuntu> soundray:  I lost sudo power, I did a sudo usermod -g <group> and added my self to a new group, now I can't sudo
[23:02] <webdemon> hey everyone
[23:02] <soundray> earthling: then you'd add a line to $HOME/.bashrc like 'export PATH=/new/path:$PATH'
[23:02] <scottf> webdemon: do you know anything about xsane backends?
[23:02] <cviorel> crimsun_, it works
[23:02] <zvacet> neurobuntu : in recovery mode adduser username admin
[23:02] <elexodus> My machine won't let me change ownership of a seperate partician from root.
[23:03] <webdemon> Sry man, I new to ubuntu and linux
[23:03] <SlimG> thanks lionfish!
[23:03] <cviorel> crimsun_, but the sobwoofer response is too low
[23:03] <earthling> soundray : then it will only append and not overwrite already existing paths
[23:03] <genii> scottf: Usually scanimage -L is informative
[23:03] <lionfish> good luck SlimG.
[23:03] <neurobuntu> zvacet, thanks!
[23:03] <hhp2k> Hey guys, anyone have a solution to run a screensaver in replacement for Ubuntu's desktop background?
[23:03] <neurobuntu> i appreciate it
[23:03] <robsz> ok.. I just spent forever installing gnome-desktop (yea i started yesterday..) now how do I uninstall it and everything that came with it?  will `apt-get remove gnome-desktop` remove it all?
[23:03] <zvacet> neurobuntu : np
[23:03] <SeveredCross> robsz: No.
[23:03] <robsz> doh
[23:04] <soundray> neurobuntu: that command removed all your group memberships. Boot in recovery mode and fix it from there... as zvacet suggests
[23:04] <scottf> genii: no scanners were identified.
[23:04] <soundray> earthling: it will prepend, which is what you want in most cases
[23:04] <simplex> exit
[23:05] <earthling> k..thanks..
[23:05] <cviorel> hhp2k, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146533
[23:05] <kenkku> YES! I NAILED IT! it's dead!
[23:05] <zvacet>  robsz : http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/purekde  read remove Ubuntu
[23:05] <kenkku> that was one annoying mosquito
[23:05] <Moktar> eww
[23:05] <hhp2k> cviorel: Thanks!
[23:05] <cviorel> hhp2k, you're welcome!
[23:06] <Abed> it's been 2 weeks now and no one told me how to fix my bluetooth
[23:06] <genii> scottf: Then it means the sane system cannot find anyting it considers to be a viable device for acquiring video. Usually /dev/loop0 or /dev/scanner or such
[23:06] <soundray> Abed: that's so sad
[23:06] <scottf> genii: so what do I do?  is there a package I'm missing?
[23:06] <soundray> !bluetooth > Abed
[23:06] <webdemon> ? for anyone. is there any app in SPM that can create log files of crashs?
[23:07] <soundray> webdemon: statistical parametric mapping?
[23:07] <genii> scottf: What is make and model of scanner and what interface it uses? (printer port, SCSI, USB, other...) ?
[23:07] <StirItUp> 1337 users
[23:07] <StirItUp> one user more and 1337 :o
[23:07] <scottf> genii: USB HP scanjet 4070 photosmart scanner.
[23:07] <StirItUp> NOW 1337 =o
[23:07] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:08] <Tensei> anyone know how to check that PHP5 is running after installing it and apache?
[23:08] <robsza> doh
[23:08] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I have a Dimension XPS system (the older kind, the 1999 kind), I installed Ubuntu 7.10 desktop on it successfully--but it doesn't recognize my Linksys ethernet card.
[23:08] <Abed> soundray i read this article a thousand times but nth works
[23:08] <zcat[1]> Tensei, <?php phpinfo() ?>
[23:08] <kenkku> Tensei: php does not run as a service, ennable apache and test a php file
[23:08] <routinet> tensei: create a PHP file with the text <? phpinfo(); ?>
[23:08] <soundray> !doesntwork | Abed
[23:08] <routinet> save it, then browse to that file on your server
[23:08] <zcat[1]> Oops, left the ; out
[23:09] <kenkku> zcat[1]: luckily that's not needed ;P
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> How do I get it to recognize my card so I can connect to my wired network?
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I desparately need to know this
[23:09] <webdemon> hmmm, Long story short . 2.0ghz machine upgraded to 1.gig ram and 160 gig drive. thing crashes all the time running HH, change memory back to 256 and 10 gig. no crashes
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I was ignored earlier
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> !wireless | Dr_Link|Laptop
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> NOT WIRELESS
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Wired.
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Simple ethernet.
[23:09] <zcat[1]> webdemon, rur memtest with the 1G ram?
[23:09] <FloodBot1> Dr_Link|Laptop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: oh.
[23:09] <genii> scottf: Google informs me this one uses the xsane hp3900 drivers
[23:09] <bXi> how can i check whats using snd_hda_intel?
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> It doesn't recognize the the card.
[23:09] <Tensei> routinet: it didn't do anything
[23:09] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Linksys.
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: can you pastebin the output of iwconfig
[23:10] <Dr_Link|Laptop> iwconfig.
[23:10] <Dr_Link|Laptop> hm, ok.
[23:10] <Tensei> routinet: when I loaded the webpage it was blank...
[23:10] <Abed> soundray have u ever experienced a bluetooth problem??
[23:10] <soundray> Odd-rationale: wired
[23:10] <robsz> How can I uninstall gnome-desktop and everything that came with it?  Its broken anyways and wont launch -.-
[23:10] <routinet> tensei: blank, not an error/404?
[23:10] <soundray> Abed: yes
[23:10] <rockenrola> bXi: lsmod
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: i mean. do iwconfig in a terminal and pastebin the output.
[23:10] <Dr_Link|Laptop> It's on a separate machine
[23:10] <Tensei> routinet: nope.. just blank.. and I viewed the source to make sure it took.. <? phpinfo(); ?> was there
[23:10] <scottf> genii: that's what the xsane pages told me, so I downloaded them and perl'd the install script.  everything checked out ok.  but it wouldn't "acquire" in GIMP.
[23:10] <soundray> Odd-rationale: wired (not iwconfig)
[23:10] <Dr_Link|Laptop> but it says... lo        no wireless extensions
[23:10] <bXi> rockenrola: according to that nothing is using it
[23:10] <zvacet> Dr_Link|Laptop : if it is wired then ifconfig
[23:10] <routinet> then apache is working, but PHP is not
[23:10] <bXi> but rmmod claims its in use
[23:11] <Odd-rationale> soundray: yeah i know... :D
[23:11] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Oh.
[23:11] <webdemon> yes ran mem from ubuntu live cd and my own version. passed both cds.
[23:11] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Well.
[23:11] <zcat[1]> Tensei, you saved that as index.php, not index.html ?
[23:11] <scottf> genii: i've had my scanner work in Ubuntu 7 before... so I'm thinking my scanner is just not registering something.
[23:11] <rockenrola> bXi: ok. that is one possibility. you don't believe it?
[23:11] <Abed> soundray was it usb or  built in?
[23:11] <Tensei> zcat[1]: ha! good call
[23:11] <routinet> zcat[1]: ditto!
[23:11] <soundray> Abed: USB
[23:11] <Dr_Link|Laptop> heh. What information do you need out of that large amount of text it spat out? I can't pastebin it if the computer is NOT CONNECTED to the internet.
[23:11] <webdemon> Its a amd board 266mhz was in it I put 400mhz thinkin that all ddr should slow down to correct speed but I have no clue.
[23:11] <stmartin> can somebody please tell me by pressing Alt+Shif, do the Scroll Lock diode light ups?
[23:12] <Abed> soundray my laptop has one i used it on vista but here no
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: what devices were listed? lo, eth0, etc?
[23:12] <Abed> soundray here=ubuntu
[23:12] <webdemon> I was just about to ship the 160 gig back to WDC thinking it was bad when I put the old memory and HD back in the system.
[23:12] <Dr_Link|Laptop> lo
[23:12] <soundray> Dr_Link|Laptop: how many sections are there, and is there one that starts with eth0 as well as lo?
[23:12] <bXi> rockenrola: http://bluepunk.pastebin.com/m4ef0c74f
[23:12] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I just see lo.
[23:12] <Tensei> zcat[1]: thanks man.. i knew it was something silly stupid like that
[23:12] <Dr_Link|Laptop> no eth0 or eth1 sections.
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: hmm.
[23:12] <soundray> Abed: is it listed when you enter 'lsusb'?
[23:12] <Dr_Link|Laptop> so it's not seeing my PCI card.
[23:13] <Tensei> routinet: thank you :-)... now if only i could get my number pad to work in ubuntu
[23:13] <Abed> soundray no
[23:13] <slicky> whats the adress to hotmail?
[23:13] <soundray> Dr_Link|Laptop: is it listed when you run 'lspci'?
[23:13] <genii> scottf: Does sudo scanimage -L   show different result than normal user running it?
[23:13] <Dr_Link|Laptop> uhh
[23:13] <lionfish> (Is there a dev irc channel?)
[23:13] <routinet> tensei: no help here...I'm still trying to install it  :)
[23:13] <Abed> soundray when i lsusb the only thing is defined is the built in cam
[23:13] <AnimatedBox> where can I find the .deb file for grub-gfxboot version 0.97-5? I need that specific version.
[23:13] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Everything BUT the network card listed.
[23:13] <lionfish> (nm reading topic)
[23:13] <soundray> Abed: have you tried plugging it into another USB socket?
[23:13] <routinet> lionfish: #ubuntu-devel ?
[23:14] <scottf> genii: no
[23:14] <lionfish> lol ty :)
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: do you have an "Ethernet Controller" section in lspci?
[23:14] <lionfish> Was being lazy.
[23:14] <lionfish> routinet: I'm not sure if I should be asking about my problem here or there...
[23:14] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I see nothing regarding an "ethernet controller" in lspci.
[23:14] <routinet> i happened to have the channel list open already  :)
[23:14] <soundray> Dr_Link|Laptop: is it a seperate card or built into your mainboard/laptop?
[23:14] <Abed> soundray the bluetooth isn't usb it is built in {inside my laptop}
[23:14] <Tensei> routinet: i got it installed with no problem.. everything works great.. except my number pad.. it's rather silly.. because it will work to type in my password, but nowhere else in the OS
[23:14] <routinet> i'm a newb, but I'll help if I can
[23:14] <Dr_Link|Laptop> separate card.
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: looks like it can't find your ethernet device... did it work in windows?
[23:14] <soundray> Abed: is it shown when you enter 'lspci'?
[23:14] <webdemon> I'm thinkin Im going to put the 160 gig back in with the 256 ram and see if i crash's again = \
[23:14] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I know it works because it was in an 8.04 machine across the room.
[23:15] <genii> scottf: Do you have package libsane-extras  installed?
[23:15] <Abed> soundray can i send u a text file with the result of lspci -vvnn??
[23:15] <scottf> genii: i'll check
[23:15] <Dr_Link|Laptop> How come it doesn't work in this one? The 8.04 machine was at one point 7.10 but it had the ethernet card working, and when I upgraded, it was still working
[23:15] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I'm not sure how I got it working.
[23:15] <kenkku> Abed: pastebin it
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Link|Laptop: check to make sure it is plugged in...
[23:15] <Abed> kenkku how?
[23:15] <Dr_Link|Laptop> plugged in?
[23:15] <Dr_Link|Laptop> as in
[23:15] <kenkku> Abed: go to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[23:15] <Dr_Link|Laptop> plugged into a router or modem?
[23:15] <soundray> Dr_Link|Laptop: it's very likely a hardware problem. Check that it is seated properly. Maybe try another PCI slot, perhaps swap cards
[23:16] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I don't have any other ethernet cards I can swap out with it.
[23:16] <chuck> Hey, umm I keep getting this "kacpid" process that's taking like 60-99% CPU 24/7, is there any way to ditch that?
[23:16] <rockenrola> bXi: the number 2 on the first line says someone is using it
[23:16] <chuck> i've already added a acpi=off apm=off to the kernel
[23:16] <soundray> !pastebin | Abed, just plain lspci please
[23:16] <routinet> tensei: this thread seems to address this problem:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844194
[23:16] <Dr_Link|Laptop> But this one is a "known good" that worked in a Windows XP Pro SP2 installation and another 7.10 installation.
[23:16] <soundray> Dr_Link|Laptop: I mean swap slots with other PCI cards
[23:16] <bXi> rockenrola: i figured that much out
[23:17] <Abed> soundray http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30411/
[23:17] <bXi> question is whats using it and how do i kill it
[23:17] <soundray> Dr_Link|Laptop: in case it's a IRQ routing problem
[23:17] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Oh!
[23:17] <Dr_Link|Laptop> Alright, seeing as I don't need that pricey sound card still sitting in there.
[23:17] <sweetgum> someone help me
[23:17] <Dr_Link|Laptop> I'll just remove the sound card and seat the ethernet into the space where it used to be
[23:17] <sweetgum> is anyone around ?
[23:17] <scottf> genii: i installed libsane extras, and still no response.  do I need to reboot?
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> sweetgum: just ask
[23:17] <Dr_Link|Laptop> We're all around
[23:17] <webdemon> plenty of people are around
[23:17] <Dr_Link|Laptop> just ask
[23:17] <webdemon> = )
[23:17] <soundray> Abed: I said plain lspci, but thank you
[23:18] <mathias11> hola alguien en espñol
[23:18] <rockenrola> bXi: I use "sudo fuser -k /dev/snd/* " to kill all applications using soud
[23:18] <Pici> !es | mathias11
[23:18] <chuck> anyone know what's up with kacpid?
[23:18] <Abed> soundray np and waiting for ur reply
[23:18] <RYknow> Anyone here using xubuntu?
[23:18] <zvacet> !es | mathias11
[23:18] <mathias11> ok thanks
[23:18] <chuck> its better now, but its going on and off
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> RYknow: /join #xubuntu
[23:18] <rockenrola> bXi: I also have that module, and I use this workaround when sound doesn't come from hibernation
[23:18] <powertool08> When I have compiz effects enabled I can't resize windows. Anyone know what causes this?
[23:19] <soundray> Abed: there is no bluetooth device listed. Is it enabled in the BIOS setup?
[23:19] <routinet> what are the differences in *ubuntu flavors?
[23:19] <RYknow> I'm not having issues with xubuntu. I just wanted some person opinions of it. Thinking about giving it a try on my laptop. Is it pretty good?
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> routinet: different desktop environments
[23:19] <bXi> rockenrola: thanks!
[23:19] <kenkku> soundray: mind you, I'm not sure, but it might be in the intel wlan chip
[23:19] <bXi> got it unloaded now
[23:19] <Abed> soundray BIOS how can i enable it?
[23:19] <routinet> kde vs gnome?
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> RYknow: it is good.
[23:19] <gam3r111> how do i log in as root
[23:19] <kenkku> soundray: mine doesn't list a bluetooth controller either, but I have one. I suspect it's in my wlan chip
[23:19] <RYknow> Pretty much the same as ubuntu (commands and whatnot)?
[23:19] <Pici> !root | gam3r111
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> RYknow: yeah. even many of the same apps
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> RYknow: firefox, synaptics, etc...
[23:20] <RYknow> Cool. Thanks for the input. Gonna download it now.
[23:20] <soundray> kenkku: it might be USB (even if it's internal)
[23:20] <RYknow> wine?
[23:20] <webdemon> ? before trying to install HH again, when I get to the point of installing the OS and making partitions should I leave them at default with only 256megs of ram or should I increase the swap?