[00:00] <Rhapsody> Then never mind that, I'll disable the alt driver and see if it works
[00:00] <ident726938> bmcwl-kernel-source
[00:00] <EriC^^> digitsm: what do you mean by not loading well?
[00:00] <ident726938> bcmwl*
[00:00] <Rhapsody> ident, that's the one
[00:00] <EriC^^> digitsm: if you use a different user, does it load?
[00:00] <digitsm> OK, the fresh xubuntu on my pc should look like this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2s13pcl&s=8#.VEBbO60eRUQ
[00:01] <digitsm> But using VNC from a remote laptop, I see it like this: http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/10/16/Screenshot_from_VNC_2014-10-17_022802.png
[00:02] <digitsm> And this is the log in ~/.vnc/desktopname:1.log: http://dpaste.com/1GX7J7P
[00:03] <Rhapsody> Holy shit EriC^^
[00:03] <digitsm> EriC^^: It seems that xfce4 desktop is not loaded well. I can work with xfce, but it seems that themes are loaded
[00:03] <Rhapsody> I disabled the alt driver and rebooted and now it works
[00:03] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: great :)
[00:03] <Rhapsody> I'll be on again if there's more issues, and hopefully there isn't
[00:04] <Rhapsody> Although
[00:04] <Rhapsody> This is Ubuntu.who am I kidding?
[00:04] <ident726938> maybe doens't display the desktop to save on bandwidth digitsm?
[00:04] <ident726938> try opening an application and see if it's shown
[00:04] <scriminal> so question: fresh install of 14.04, looking in /etc/network/interfaces, I don't see any interfaces defined except lo.  where are they defined then? as my wifi is working at least, so something is setup some place :)
[00:05] <popey> scriminal: network manager auto manages them if they're not in that list
[00:05] <digitsm> ident726938, it shows the desktop. I can run any program too. But many xfce component (themes for example) does not look well
[00:05] <EriC^^> digitsm: if you use a different user does it work?
[00:06] <digitsm> ident726938, You can see whiskermenu on top left of http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/10/16/Screenshot_from_VNC_2014-10-17_022802.png
[00:06] <digitsm> EriC^^, which user do you mean?
[00:06] <EriC^^> digitsm: any user
[00:06] <scriminal> hrm ok
[00:06] <popey> its working as designed scriminal ☻
[00:07] <EriC^^> digitsm: if you have a guest account try to use it
[00:07] <digitsm> I ran tightvnc server using the default user I created when I installed xubuntu
[00:07] <digitsm> Eric^^ the only account it the default one I created when installing xubuntu. its name is sinau
[00:07] <EriC^^> digitsm: try to create another user, sudo useradd -m <newuser>
[00:07] <digitsm> ok
[00:08] <scriminal> and if my dhcp server is handing out DNS to clients but isn't handing it out to this one, any hints?
[00:08] <scriminal> i can manually stuff them in, but that seems wrong
[00:09] <scriminal> heh
[00:09] <scriminal> root@W500:~# network-manager
[00:09] <scriminal> network-manager: command not found
[00:09] <scriminal> or if network manager isn't installed, then what's controlling things?
[00:09] <EriC^^> scriminal: it is installed
[00:09] <EriC^^> what are you trying to open?
[00:10] <EriC^^> the connection manager?
[00:10] <scriminal> sure
[00:10] <EriC^^> nm-connection-editor
[00:10] <scriminal> you're right it's installed
[00:10] <loa> squinty, is there easy way to switch servers?
[00:10] <scriminal> i see it in dpkg
[00:11] <scriminal> ok so maybe my dhcp server isn't properly handing out dns servers
[00:11]  * scriminal looks at that
[00:12] <loa> squinty, ok looks like i found
[00:17] <scriminal> oh lol
[00:17] <scriminal> was inetutils-traceroute vs regular
[00:17] <scriminal> inetutils-traceroute doesn't do rdns by default i guess
[00:19] <scriminal> thanks :)
[00:19] <digitsm> EriC^^, I made another user and edited the configurations so that vncserver will run upon boot under the new user
[00:19] <EriC^^> digitsm: ok
[00:21] <Giora> I have managed to kill global menu
[00:21] <popey> is that good or bad?
[00:21] <Giora> Its good
[00:21] <Giora> Here is the trick
[00:21] <Giora> sudo apt-get autoremove unity-gtk2-module unity-gtk3-module appmenu-qt appmenu-qt5 libunity-gtk2-parser0 libunity-gtk3-parser0 unity-gtk-module-common
[00:22] <Giora> removing indicator-appmenu would break it
[00:26] <the8thbit> Hi, asked this in ##linux too, but might be more relevant here:
[00:26] <the8thbit> I recently restarted my computer, and neither my soundcard nor my usb headphones show up as output devices. How do I restart my audio server or whatever from a command line?
[00:27] <Giora> I suppose it may be related to pulseaudio
[00:27] <the8thbit> Giora: So can I just kill pulseaudio and then start it by running pulseaudio &?
[00:28] <Giora> I'm not sure honestly
[00:28] <oaulakh> how to fix function key brightness in ubuntu its not working
[00:28] <Giora> I'm not an expert
[00:28] <oaulakh> i also install appropriate driver nvidia
[00:28] <Giora> However you could attempt doing so
[00:28] <Giora> But I suppose you may need tty for that
[00:29] <the8thbit> I have no problem using a terminal. I just dont want to have to restart my computer
[00:30] <Giora> No need in restarting
[00:31] <Giora> Ctrl+Alt+F1 for tty1 and Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to UI/DE
[00:31] <digitsm> EriC^^, I couldn't test the result yet. Unfortunately vinagre saved my previous pass and I can't enter a new pass, so always authentication failure
[00:32] <oaulakh> how to fix function key brightness in ubuntu its not working
[00:32] <oaulakh> any idea?
[00:33] <EriC^^> digitsm: that sucks
[00:33] <EriC^^> digitsm: can you get back on the system?
[00:34] <digitsm> EriC^^, Fortunately the system is not headless
[00:34] <digitsm> I have borrowed a monitor to attach to PC temporarily
[00:34] <EriC^^> ok
[00:38] <digitsm> Eric^^ recently I get "connection closed" error instead of "authentication failed". Is it possible that tightvnc server blocked me for many wrong passwords?
[00:39] <EriC^^> digitsm: no idea about tightvnc
[00:39] <EriC^^> it could be i guess
[00:42] <PandaStyle> please please please can someone help me with my wireless drivers, this is driving me nuts!
[00:43] <SchrodingersScat> !broadcom | PandaStyle ?
[00:43] <SchrodingersScat> if not, then !details
[00:43] <PandaStyle> I have managed to get fairly far to the point of i can connect
[00:44] <PandaStyle> but everytime i reboot i have to run the modprobe ndiswrapper command
[00:44] <PandaStyle> then in network manager disable wifi and enable it again for me to connect :(
[00:44] <SchrodingersScat> oi, sounds terrible
[00:46] <Andras> Is there a way to access information seen by the BIOS from within Ubuntu
[00:48] <Bashing-om> Andras: -> dmidecode <- ???
[00:53] <digitsm> EriC^^, At last I could connect to tightvnc with vinagre.
[00:54] <digitsm> The new desktop logged in via the new user. But still the same error
[00:54] <digitsm> It doesn't look like the default xfce desktop
[00:55] <digitsm> It seems uglier. like this screenshot
[00:55] <digitsm> http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/10/16/Screenshot_from_VNC_2014-10-17_022802.png
[00:55] <yeukhon> for EOL versions like 13.10 which just ended this summer, to mitigate security vuln like shellshock would be either upgrade to next version or compile and fix on my own, right?
[00:55] <digitsm> but I can see my desktop this time
[00:59] <yeukhon> I supposed using Trusty's shouldn't be that bad on 13.10..?
[01:04] <rww> yeukhon: Sure, you can patch bash and mitigate shellshock. That isn't going to fix all the other vulnerabilities that got patched in 14.04 since 13.10 went EOL, so it doesn't help you much.
[01:04] <rww> You really should just upgrade and stick to LTS from now on
[01:05] <yeukhon> rww:  yeah definitely :D
[01:05] <yeukhon> I'm banning vulnerable images (we use aws) as well.
[01:07] <mike__> hello
[01:11] <pen_> hey
[01:11] <pen_> room lol
[01:12] <pen_> I've installed kubuntu dist-upgrade to trusty now I have no sound.
[01:12] <pen_> Would someone send me in the right direction?
[01:15] <bubbasaures> !sound | pen_  general info
[01:25] <azizLIGHT> is there anything like windows' process explorer on ubuntu? i want to see graphic history of individual process' cpu and ram usage
[01:26] <Adie> I have the best guitar amp :)
[01:33] <guest-YvxrEu> hi
[01:59] <microfarat> hi
[02:20] <sydney> azizLIGHT: system monitor
[02:21] <sydney> Package name ' gnome-system-monitor '
[02:22] <giamnt> hi
[02:26] <ObrienDave> giamnt, Greetings & Welcome
[02:37] <Lutsen_> Hello.  I all of a sudden lost the ability to reach a specific domain which I use very often.  It happened while I was on the site.  I've pasted an explanation here: http://pastebin.com/fZxMn1ku or http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576978/ .  Can anyone help me?
[02:44] <giamnt> ]I use a live persistent version of ubuntu on a pendrive to do maintenance on my hard drive installation. Till now I have used on pendrive the same 3 years old ISO file that I have used for installation (same version/locale/etc). It's safe if I use a more updated ISO on my pendrive to do maintenance on desktop installation? (E.g.:  system on hard drive installed with ISO: [ ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso, 2-3 years ago] and latest ISO
[02:45] <giamnt> * and latest ISO on pendrive [ ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso ] )
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> I can't think of any reasons why that would be a bad idea.
[02:47] <bennypr0fane> what's the best way to backup my root partition? Would it make sense to just plain copy all the files to an external harddrive, or is there some sort of a more specialised solution?
[02:47] <somsip> !backup | bennypr0fane
[02:48] <giamnt> SchrodingersScat just wondering confirmation for safety :)
[02:51] <herry> selamat pagi
[02:54] <giamnt> thanks for reply... bye :)
[02:55] <SchrodingersScat> giamnt: good luck, see ya
[02:57] <azizLIGHT> i meant something more in depth than system monitor
[02:57] <azizLIGHT> something where you can see visual history of cpu usage and memory usage over time for each indivudal process, like you can in process explorer on windows
[02:57] <azizLIGHT> this system monitor is very basic
[03:00] <sheap> I have a package that uses debconf to take in a string to configure a package. This package is being installed through a preseed, and the preseed entry is "d-i sudouser/question1 string" and a variable is passed via command line arguments to the preseed like so: "question1=sudousername". But the preseed install is just ignoring that variable...how would I get that variable into the preseed?
[03:03] <lickalott> hey all!   For some reason it is escaping me and my google-fu isn't on par tonight....  Whats the command to find out whats installed?  (pkginfo type of command)?
[03:04] <lickalott> nbm
[03:04] <lickalott> nvm
[03:04] <lickalott> just figured it out.
[03:16] <len20122> if I install the ubuntu 14.10 beta now will I be able to install the full version later?
[03:22] <nith1210>  Connection reset by peer]
[04:00] <choiwonjun> hello
[04:06] <oswaldo> hola
[04:06] <oswaldo> hola
[04:30] <pennline> pennline
[04:32] <cliffer> while doing "dget -x http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pyasn1/pyasn1_0.1.7-1ubuntu2.dsc", ill get the error: pyasn1_0.1.7-1ubuntu2.dsc: dscverify: pyasn1_0.1.7-1ubuntu2.dsc failed signature check: gpg: Signature made So 23 Feb 2014 15:25:42 CET using DSA key ID 0F932C9C, gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[04:32] <cliffer> how can i solve this?
[04:38] <cliffer> the problem exists on ubuntu 10.04. but not on 14.04.
[04:45] <pentanol> hi all, what's the difference betwen trusty and unicorn? trusty is LT Bosphorus112php
[04:45] <pentanol> LTS version
[04:45] <ObrienDave> about 6 months
[04:46] <pentanol> 6 months difference?
[04:47] <ObrienDave> utopic, yes, 6 month release cycle
[04:48] <pentanol> щр б щл
[04:48] <pentanol> oh, ok
[04:48] <ObrienDave> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes
[04:50] <pentanol> but unicorn tackages are newer?
[04:50] <pentanol> packages*
[04:53] <ObrienDave> yes, but only what needs to be changed
[04:54] <Chetic> I can ping/SSH to a machine using IP but not hostname. How do I figure out what's wrong?
[04:55] <r0man52700> hi
[04:56] <sacarlson> Chetic: can you try dig youhostname
[04:56] <sacarlson> Chetic: find out if your dns is providing the ip or did you ping the name and get the correct number?
[04:57] <Chetic> sacarlson: dig times out by hostname
[04:57] <sacarlson> Chetic: ok can you dig some other address like google.com ?
[04:57] <sivik> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:57] <sivik> oh, nvm
[04:58] <Chetic> <IP_ADDRESS> works, but not google.com
[04:58] <sivik> Set a domain name in your hosts file.
[04:58] <sivik> That means your nameservers are probably not set
[04:58] <sivik> Check your /etc/network/interfaces and look for nameservers.
[04:58] <Chetic> shouldn't they be set automatically?
[04:58] <Chetic> no nameservers in there
[04:58] <sivik> Thats your problem.
[04:58] <sacarlson> Chetic: ok your dns  server is not working.  what address is dig useing as your dns server?
[04:58] <sivik> sacarlson, he just said he didn't have any nameservers
[04:58] <sivik> Thats why its not working
[04:59] <sacarlson> sivik: sorry can't write and read at the same time
[04:59] <Hext> Does anyone know how to enable two-finger clicking on a clickpad?
[04:59] <sivik> Hext, negative
[05:00] <Hext> :( It's hard to do a right-click
[05:00] <Laputa> hi, anyone has an idea that why tester [[ -f file ]]  doesnt work in .xinitrc ? only single bracket [ ] works.
[05:00] <Chetic> sacarlson sivik why do I suddenly need to set a nameserver? shouldn't dhcp handle that?
[05:01] <sivik> Chetic, because apparently your networking settings didn't set one.
[05:01] <sivik> or you can manually add them in the /etc/resolv.conf but they won't stick on reboot or networking restart
[05:01] <Chetic> dhcp should be enough. I know it would be if this was a windows machine
[05:01] <Chetic> I don't know what dns server address to use
[05:02] <sivik> Just use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> as your nameservers
[05:02] <ObrienDave> Laputa, because [[ x ]] implies there should be more that one term between outer [ ]
[05:02] <ObrienDave> *thank one
[05:02] <ObrienDave> *than one
[05:04] <Chetic> sivik: that only solved the issue of connecting to the internet
[05:04] <sivik> So whats the problem now?
[05:04] <Chetic> I'm concerned with not being able to connect to a qemu machine
[05:04] <sivik> Can you connect to the qemu machine using an ip?
[05:05] <Chetic> yes
[05:05] <sivik> Did you assign a hostname to an IP using a zone file for said qemu server?
[05:05] <Laputa> ObrienDave: sorry, i didnt get you. i'm asking because i used to have " [[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources " in my .xinitrc to load customized things. it works on archlinux, but doesnt work on ubuntu 12.04
[05:05] <Chetic> sivik: I don't know what a zone file is, but this has been working before
[05:06] <ObrienDave> Laputa, ubuntu is not arch ;P
[05:06] <Laputa> ObrienDave: i'm guessing that maybe xinit is not using bash , so [[ ]] can not be used ?
[05:06] <ObrienDave> i really don't know
[05:07] <Laputa> ObrienDave: yeah, just wondering double bracket doesnt work, since single bracket tester works.
[05:07] <Laputa> ObrienDave: thanks anyway.
[05:08] <Jeanette23>  High Quality photos and videos http://j.mp/Rh9YfS
[05:15] <cliffer> on doing dget -x http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cdbs/cdbs_0.4.122ubuntu2.dsc, i get the error: Can't check signature: public key not found. I have installed debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, reinstalled both, updated the keys from apt, entered all keys from /usr/share/keyrings in ~./gnupg/gpg.conf but i still fails. can somebody help?
[05:18] <cliffer> i also updated keys with gpg -k
[05:22] <sacarlson> cliffer: is this method too old? http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys
[05:24] <sacarlson> cliffer: I don't recall having to use this method http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/08/fixing-gpg-keys-in-ubuntu.html
[05:24] <cliffer> sacarlson: i tried this too but with another key id, but i did not get where to take this key id from
[05:25] <sacarlson> cliffer: seems in the past I just reinstalled some key package that I ignored the message of bad keys then after that the errors went away
[05:31] <sacarlson> cliffer: try reinstall  apt-get reinstall ubuntu-keyring ;    maybe uninstall and install if needed
[05:31] <cliffer> i did that :)
[05:32] <Anarhist> hi, a notification that calculator program needs to be updated. where can i read about what they managed to find in calculator that needs to be improved? do i need to go and recalculate everything i've calculated with the old version?
[05:35] <sacarlson> cliffer: oh did it fix it?
[05:35] <cliffer> no :)
[05:37] <morsedl3> i bet this has been asked a lot, but: anyone having trouble with us.archive.ubuntu.com for precise (12.04)?
[05:38] <somsip> Anarhist: the changelog for the lastest package probably
[05:38] <morsedl3> it's quite odd.  i've literally identical machines (i.e., cloned from the same image), one updates fine, two do not.
[05:38] <sacarlson> cliffer: did you add some ppa packages maybe and you don't have those keys updated?
[05:39] <cliffer> no, i have a virgin sources.lst
[05:39] <morsedl3> one that updates and one that does not are on the same network (i.e, desktop and laptop at home), and the other does not is at the university.
[05:42] <cliffer> sacarlson: thx on this issue, but i give up
[05:43] <cliffer> the target machine is running ubuntu 10.04. and to achieve my goal, i have to baclport too much packages, so i rather updates the machine
[05:43] <cliffer> sometime
[05:45] <sacarlson> cliffer: oh I should have asked what version since ubuntu 10.04 is EOL updating keys may be a problem
[05:46] <cliffer> how do i find out if its 10.04. server or not?
[05:46] <cliffer> since server isnt EOL
[05:46] <sacarlson> cliffer: oh the server version,  I'm not sure when eol for that is
[05:47] <somsip> !10.04
[05:47] <Ben64> lsb_release -r
[05:47] <cliffer> april 15 :)
[05:47] <cliffer> lsb_release -r gives me Release:	10.04
[05:48] <cliffer> and lsb_release -a gives no indicating of server
[05:48] <sacarlson> cliffer: just ignore the warnings then if you can live with that,  I have for months before
[05:50] <cliffer> so thx everybody but the issue is not an issue anymore in my eyes :)
[05:56] <excelsiora> anyone here install Ubuntu on a Nexus, by any chance?
[06:00] <somsip> !touch | excelsiora (might be better to ask here, but it may be quiet at this time)
[06:01] <excelsiora> cool, can touch support Python and it's standard data stack? Pandas/statsmodels/matplotlib...
[06:01] <noobuntu> Hi
[06:01] <noobuntu> http://bit.ly/1rEF3Vj
[06:01] <noobuntu> cn sm1 hlp w/ dis?
[06:02] <ObrienDave> n e cn't ;P
[06:03] <somsip> noobuntu: you're not texting. Please write in real words.
[06:03] <somsip> noobuntu: and that link fails
[06:04] <ObrienDave> i won't try links from those that can't spell
[06:04] <squinty> amozon gift cars  wants clicks
[06:04] <somsip> ObrienDave: probably a better idea
[06:05] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: what?  you chated with me and I can't spell, so we got you there
[06:05] <ObrienDave> at least your spelling is readable ;P
[06:06] <ObrienDave> mostly ;P
[06:06] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: ha ha thanks
[06:18] <pam> Hey folks
[06:19] <pam> I'm trying to convert wav files on the desktop by right clicking them and using a nautilus script to convert them.  Only problem is there is no menu for the scripts I have installed.  What can I do?
[06:21] <noobuntu> http://bit.ly/1rEF3Vj
[06:22] <DaleK5whr> pam, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[06:24] <Narwhaal> hey,
[06:25] <sacarlson> pam: I got that working by accident with caja
[06:25] <Narwhaal> whenever I try and burn Ubuntu 14.04 L to a 4gb DVD disk, it doesn't boot :/ all files and folders are there though. any idea why this doesn't work ? thanks! (plz PM me as I have to go to college now)
[06:26] <ObrienDave> at least noobuntu didn't try text speak again ;P
[06:26] <sacarlson> pam: oh but I think caja doesn't run on unity?
[06:26] <Narwhaal> oh and I burned it with both Windows Image Burner and Free ISO Burner
[06:26] <Narwhaal> thanks!
[06:26] <ObrienDave> burn at a slower speed
[06:26] <Narwhaal> I burned at 2x
[06:27] <Narwhaal> and 4x
[06:27] <sacarlson> Narwhaal: I have better luck with usb installs.  my old cd/dvd readers don't work too good anymore
[06:27] <sacarlson> Narwhaal: does the system by any chance have a linux running on it already?
[06:27] <Narwhaal> sacarlson: I just bought this drive 4 or 5 months ago, but I am already formatting an old usb flash device now
[06:28] <Narwhaal> sacarlson: no, it had, last year
[06:28] <pam> crap...none of my nautilus scripts are showing up when I right click the mouse button...Says I have to restart nautilus with nautilus -q
[06:28] <pam> not doing anything
[06:29] <sacarlson> pam: ya I installed nautilus and it didn't work for me eather.  but funny the scripts that were installed for nautilus in my test showed up in caja
[06:29] <sacarlson> pam: I did have to install lame to get it to fully work in caja
[06:30] <Narwhaal> could it be that I'm burning x64 ?
[06:30] <Narwhaal> (probably not)
[06:30] <ObrienDave> nope
[06:31] <Hext> Has anybody here tried Iced Tea (Java) on 14.10?
[06:31] <Narwhaal> meh, just wasted 2 DVDs tonight
[06:31] <pam> This is driving me freaking NUTS!
[06:32] <ObrienDave> Narwhaal, i use DVD-RW. just reburn
[06:32] <Narwhaal> I'm using RW
[06:33] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | Hext
[06:34] <Narwhaal> off to college
[06:34] <sacarlson> Narwhaal: also I found I could install way faster with the new grub2 that can now boot iso files from hard disk.  even faster than usb
[06:34] <tigrang> hey, Im getting these MCE logs http://privatepaste.com/5c25975360 when I first boot up and when I resume from standby, otherwise while normal use it runs normally. Ive done memtest for 2+ hours and cpu stress tests and no hang or crash. Wondering if anyone has an idea of what is causing it? Happens in kernel 3.14, 15, 16 and 17, didnt try anything older than that
[06:34] <Narwhaal> lol but the disk isn't bootable
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Narwhaal, so? reburn it
[06:34] <Narwhaal> I done that
[06:34] <Narwhaal> twice
[06:35] <ObrienDave> Narwhaal, did you check the MD5 of the ISO?
[06:35] <Narwhaal> yes, it matches with what's provided
[06:35] <Narwhaal> but I've gtg now so thx for the help and cya! :)
[06:36] <r0man52700> hi
[06:40] <Quatroking> hi
[06:40] <chz> I accidently deleted all my files in /usr/include, now I cannot use gcc/clang to compile a program, how to get all of them  back.??
[06:40] <Quatroking> I want to change my default file manager from nautilus to dolphin, how do I go about this?
 is it not in the system setting??
[06:42] <Quatroking> chz, where do I find this setting?
[06:42] <sacarlson> chz: I think you might just need to reinstall the header for your present kernal
[06:42] <chz> you just start to use Ubuntu??
[06:43] <FilthyMacNasty> has anyone found 12.04's sources.list saying trukty not trusty?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> umm, noooooo
[06:44] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <cfhowlett> FilthyMacNasty, if your source list reads "trukty" you've got a bad source ...
[06:45] <chz> Quatroking: I already found the anwser, thanks
[06:45] <Quatroking> ???
[06:45] <obounaim> Hello everybody
[06:46] <chz> sacarlson: I already found the answer, thanks
[06:46] <sacarlson> chz:  oh very good
[06:46] <obounaim> I have an issue with a fresh copy of ubuntu installed on HP EliteBook 8440p.
[06:46] <obounaim> resume fails after suspend
[06:46] <obounaim> any ideas please?
[06:47] <sacarlson> obounaim: I'm not sure how stable suspend is but is your swap file at least as big as your ram size?
[06:47] <chz> Quatroking: I don't know which environment you are using, but finding the system setting should be easy
[06:47] <Quatroking> I'm in gnome, I know where the system settings are, but where do I find the setting that decides what my default file manager is
[06:48] <Quatroking> system>details>default applications doesn't list the file manager
[06:49] <sacarlson> Quatroking: seems you have to start filemanager it's doesn't come up when you select a file
[06:50] <obounaim> sacarlson: yes i do.
[06:50] <sacarlson> Quatroking: do you mean how do you set what filemanger sees as the default app for file types?
[06:51] <Quatroking> sacarlson, oh hey you're right, i just realized the only way to open a folder is to open up the manager myself
[06:51] <Quatroking> ha, thanks for nothing then, lol
[06:52] <FilthyMacNasty> you could set a program to open that type of file with
[06:52] <sacarlson> Quatroking: oh wait but when I plug in my phone my file manager does auto start
[06:53] <FilthyMacNasty> its in default programs but I couldnt tell you where that is right now
[06:54] <Quatroking> sacarlson, oh
[06:54] <sacarlson> Quatroking:  FilthyMacNasty yes I'm sure it's in /etc/defaults....
[06:57] <Quatroking> found it, "xdg-mime default kde4/dolphin.desktop inode/directory"
[06:57] <FilthyMacNasty> anyone got an idea why 14.04 ubuntu-desktop when you open firefox and try to go somewhere it blackscreens and locks up?
[06:58] <somsip> FilthyMacNasty: are you really using both 12.04 and 14.04 and have weird problems on them both?
[06:59] <FilthyMacNasty> I think my problem stems from the 12.04 disk, I think my partner got it from a torrent instead of ubuntu.com
[07:00] <FilthyMacNasty> all the machines have been installed with that disk
[07:00] <FilthyMacNasty> its patient 0
[07:00] <ObrienDave> FilthyMacNasty, depends on where you get the torrent from
[07:00] <Ben64> torrents aren't necessarily bad. verify the md5sum here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:00] <FilthyMacNasty> I'll just burn a new copy from ubuntu.com tomorrow and fix it all
[07:01] <FilthyMacNasty> the sources.list says trukty not trusty
[07:01] <Ben64> ok, that could have been user error
[07:01] <Ben64> verify the md5s
[07:01] <prajith> what is the best english dictionary for ubuntu?
[07:01] <FilthyMacNasty> www.google.com
[07:01] <Quatroking> well that didn't work
[07:02] <FilthyMacNasty> I'm consuming  mass brainbleach trying to make this day go away
[07:08] <sacarlson> Quatroking: looks like it's dependent on the usr for mate install at ~./config/mate/default,launcher....   so I assume you will want to look in your  ~./config  directory for kde to find it
[07:09] <Quatroking> oh but I'm using gnome, not kde
[07:09] <sacarlson> Quatroking: well I assume you will still find it in that dir
[07:09] <Quatroking> I just prefer dolphin over nautilus because dolphin is fancier
[07:10] <chz> Quatroking: I wonder why you want to set the default file manager, what kind of situation you want the set the default manager??
[07:11] <Quatroking> chz, external devices auto-open the default file manager
[07:11] <sacarlson> Quatroking: just grep -r nautilus *  in your home /home/you  and you should see where nautilus is used
[07:11] <Quatroking> in this case, nautilus
[07:11] <FilthyMacNasty> he wants to double click a folder and have it open in file manager
[07:12] <Quatroking> sacarlson, grep can take a while to run I assume?
[07:12] <sacarlson> FilthyMacNasty: no I expect he wants to plug in his phone or flashdrive and have it autoopen dolphin instead of nautilus
[07:12] <sacarlson> Quatroking: that depends on what you have in your home.  you can focus on ./config and ./gnome first
[07:12] <FilthyMacNasty> well there is always the pick a file manager and remove the other
[07:13] <elephant_> whoami
[07:13] <sacarlson> youareyou
[07:14] <FilthyMacNasty> youareyou.com
[07:14] <ObrienDave> whois
[07:15] <sacarlson> FilthyMacNasty: my guess is if you removed nuatilus that if you create new users the default skeloton configs might change but accounts that already exist will still have nautilus in them
[07:16] <FilthyMacNasty> purge?
[07:16] <Quatroking> just removed nautilus
[07:17] <FilthyMacNasty> I typically have a written plan of what I want installed and rarely uninstall anything
[07:17] <Paypal_Danger> Don't trust Paypal.  They can freeze your account and steal your money.   http://imagebin.org/321673
[07:17] <sacarlson> Quatroking: my guess is now that nautilus is removed you just won't have an auto start of any filemanager for a usb flash drive.  so try plug one in and find out
[07:17] <Quatroking> welp, it now opens up disk usage analyzer
[07:17] <Quatroking> how helpful
[07:18] <sacarlson> Quatroking: is that when you plugin a flash drive?
[07:18] <Quatroking> Yeah
[07:18] <sacarlson> ha ha must have a fallback list
[07:26] <Quatroking> sacarlson, figured out a solution, just added a bash script called nautilus to usr/local/bin/ that launches dolphin
[07:28] <seed_> hi
[07:29] <seed_> hi
[07:29] <FilthyMacNasty> ello
[07:29] <iceman_3233> Hello
[07:34] <sacarlson> Quatroking: ah slick more.  I didn't think of that one
[07:49] <sunan> test
[07:50] <somsip> !test | sunan
[07:50] <sunan> Haha
[07:50] <sunan> I just use test to test if I can send a message
[07:51] <somsip> sunan: next time you can use #test
[07:51] <FilthyMacNasty> what would trusty be doing in 12.04 sources.list?
[07:51] <somsip> FilthyMacNasty: you've already done this hear earlier
[07:51] <somsip> *here
[07:51] <FilthyMacNasty> I'm just curious why someone would do that
[07:52] <somsip> FilthyMacNasty: moot question given what you said were your circumstances earlier.
[07:52] <FilthyMacNasty> point
[07:52] <somsip> FilthyMacNasty: if you've got a dodgy install and you're going to replace it with an official install to be sure, then do that
[07:53] <FilthyMacNasty> already on the way
[07:53] <sunan> #test
[07:53] <FilthyMacNasty> makes me question what else is hosed with it
[07:55] <FilthyMacNasty> is there a way to do a network install of ubuntu?
[07:55] <FilthyMacNasty> ie I aint got a blank cd handy
[07:56] <maZtah> hi guys. i'm not sure if this question is right, but hopefully you will get it: on which debian version runs ubuntu 14.04?
[07:57] <sacarlson> FilthyMacNasty: there used to be a method with a like 10m iso file to fully install ubuntu from an online source
[07:57] <FilthyMacNasty> theyre cousins, not husband and wife
[08:02] <sacarlson> FilthyMacNasty: the other method I have used is install with pxe over localnet with no iso at all on the target.  just bare metel intall with a bios that supports pxe
[08:02] <FilthyMacNasty> yeah I got discs at the shop, guess it will be tomorrow
[08:02] <FilthyMacNasty> now more brainbleach
[08:08] <johndoe75>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[08:10] <pariz_> wtf
[08:10] <agent_white> Ello everyon
[08:11] <FilthyMacNasty> hello again Agent_Sm1th_BR
[08:11] <FilthyMacNasty> err agent_white
[08:11] <agent_white> \o
[08:14] <geirha> so many agents
[08:16] <agent_white> I am white of the agents.
[08:18] <g44> hi
[08:18] <ak5> hey guys is docker on ubuntu 14.04 broken? no problems on my arch but if I use either ubuntus repos or the docker.io one, it cn't create virtual network interface at docker0 and fails miserably
[08:18] <g44> i just created a backup of my rootfs with tar -cvpf , however the backup is a bit smaller than the rootfs, should i worry? or is that normal?
[08:20] <Fohlen> is there a recommend way how to "copy" my ubuntu installation to a new workstation? http://eggsonbread.com/2010/01/28/move-ubuntu-to-another-computer-in-3-simple-steps/ says I could use sudo dpkg --get-selections | sed "s/.*deinstall//" | sed "s/install$//g" > ~/pkglist
[08:20] <Fohlen> but if I'm not wrong this would also copy the graphical drivers etc
[08:20] <Fohlen> and my new workstation has a completly different working shape (new processor ofc, new graphic card, ddr3)
[08:21] <leeyaa> hello
[08:21] <leeyaa> does anyone have any idea why would php5-cli show different php version then the actual php version on the server ?
[08:21] <g44> Fohlen: you could use tar/cp to copy everything over and then rewrite the bootloader/mbr
[08:22] <Fohlen> g44: mhm, I would be fine with doing a fresh installation and copying all the stuff, but I don't know what to do about the packages
[08:22] <Fohlen> and sorting them by hand may take hours or days
[08:22] <Fohlen> :D
[08:23] <sacarlson> Fohlen: I"m not sure about recomended but you should be able to just cp -a from one root to another root of your target disk.  it would think both disks would have to be offline like boot from cdrom
[08:23] <g44> Fohlen: if the above command works and reinstalls all packages you can use it i guess :)
[08:23] <shane_> can anyone advise when 'add-apt-repository cloud-archive:juno' will work per the openstack install guide for ubuntu trusty 14.04 LTS?
[08:23] <sacarlson> it = I
[08:24] <Ben64> shane_: PPAs aren't supported here at all
[08:24] <Yossarianuk> hi - just seen 14.04 has another libssl update -> 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7 is this just related to the poodle attack or are there other issues fixed also ?
[08:25] <agent_white> Fohlen: In the future, look to separating /home and /usr into separate partitions.
[08:25] <Fohlen> agent_white: in how far does that solve my problem of copying all my packages to a new system?
[08:26] <Fohlen> I have no trouble with copying ~ to the new computer ofc, just wanna keep my software
[08:26] <Fohlen> but the command mentioned above will also install my old nvidia driver to the new system, which is pointless
[08:26] <Fohlen> kinda.
[08:26] <agent_white> Fohlen: From http://tldp.org/LDP/lame/LAME/linux-admin-made-easy/install-partitioning.html
[08:26] <Ben64> Fohlen: then edit the resulting text file and remove the ones you dont want to install?
[08:27] <agent_white> "most of the binary files required by Linux, as well as any locally installed software, web pages, Squid proxy cache, Samba share services, some locally-installed software log files, etc. are stored here."
[08:27] <Fohlen> maybe that would be best.
[08:27] <sacarlson> Fohlen: as I think about the complications of the cp -a method.  that would not install the needed grub mbr and I would think the uuid in fstab would not match so they would have to be modified manualy
[08:27] <Fohlen> yeah
[08:28] <FilthyMacNasty> you could use FOG
[08:28] <EriC^^> Fohlen: that will install the packages & their dependencies
[08:28] <Fohlen> this post here, http://positon.org/clone-a-linux-system-install-to-another-computer, describes a different approach which does what you described
[08:28] <EriC^^> Fohlen: that means if you uninstall a package, the dependencies will remain since they weren't pulled in by the package itself
[08:28] <EriC^^> ( and the list is going to be huge )
[08:29] <EriC^^> Fohlen: use this instead comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[08:29] <EriC^^> it will compare with the original packages installed and leave you with almost only the ones you installed yourself
[08:29] <agent_white> Fohlen: Also, it's _generally_ good to just re-install the packages. You could also look into provisioning software, like Puppet and Chef.
[08:31] <sacarlson> Fohlen: ya that looks like it would work in very good detail
[08:31] <Fohlen> EriC^^: nice, this one is awesome.
[08:31] <Fohlen> actually gotta strip the linux/headers packages, because the new fresh installation will replace them anyways, but the rest is insane!
[08:32] <sacarlson> Fohlen: the other method I've used in the past was just dump a list of all installed packages that makes a script that will auto install them on the running target machine.  This is not as exact as you will end up with differnet version at times on each of them
[08:33] <Fohlen> sacarlson: yes + what I mention above
[08:33] <Fohlen> if you copy linux/image/headers and graphic driver packages you will result in a huge buggery :D
[08:33] <Fohlen> never do that, compile/install them in time on the running host
[08:34] <Fohlen> may sometimes work for server hosts, but the recommend approach is to keep the headers previously installed
[08:35] <sacarlson> Fohlen: if you cloned it with that link method I don't see any problems with headers and video drivers , other than maybe the needed drivers on the target are still not present
[08:35] <sacarlson> Fohlen: it should be posible to fallback to standard video drivers until you install the needed video on the target
[08:36] <agent_white> Fohlen: If you plan on doing this more than once, I would still recommend some provisioning software. Learn Puppet then you'll thank yourself later.
[08:37] <Fohlen> agent_white: thank's, seems for what I'm looking for
[08:37] <Fohlen> I previously used http://www.stephenlang.net/2012/06/full-server-rsync-migrations/ for servers, and it should also be working for desktop machines if you copy the home folder
[08:37] <agent_white> Fohlen: Look into that or Chef. (if you prefer ruby) or fabric for python.
[08:38] <Fohlen> neither ruby nor python
[08:38] <Fohlen> :D
[08:38] <agent_white> ;P  Well I would still recommend either. Puppet is BIG in the sysadmin realm.
[08:38] <agent_white> Add Vagrant into it, and you got workstation provisioning.
[08:40] <AciD``> hi
[08:41] <lemoid> Hello guys
[08:42] <lemoid> I have problem: I have installed ubuntu on board but I need to create ntfs partition. So I'm using live cd, but after boot I don't have option: try ubuntu but only recovery mode
[08:43] <AciD``> after resuming from suspend, I get a "xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Not enough bandwidth on HS bus for newly activated TT." error message, and can't use my mouse anymore. I successfully removed that module with rmmod -f xhci_hcd, but I can't load it back with `modprobe xhci_hcd` (nothing happens). Anybody knows how to reload that?
[08:43] <sacarlson> agent_white: I just looked at puppet.  I think I've attempted to use this or something like it in the past but failed.   It would be worth learning if you had 10 or more systems to setup I guess.  otherwise the learning curve may not be too short
[08:44] <agent_white> sacarlson: Aye, it is definitely an investment.  But I actually only have 4 servers I manage, but it still makes it REALLY easy to keep track of packages across all systems, and easily deploy a new one :)
[08:45] <agent_white> I agree though. Learn it if you have time, and it'll pay off in the long run. Otherwise, scripts work as well :)
[08:45] <sacarlson> agent_white: ya for continued support I guess it would also be a benifit
[08:45] <sacarlson> of a group of machines
[08:46] <agent_white> Indeed. Not to mention, they have a little "intro to Puppet" with VM's you download to follow along. You'll have a managed MOTD in an hour :)
[08:46] <Sachiru> Query: One does not need to chroot to edit a remote system's FSTAB correct?
[08:47] <geirha> Sachiru: correct
[08:47] <sacarlson> agent_white: I think the one I looked at in the past it was suposed to fully automate from bare metal install of a group of systems with pxe installs without touching them
[08:47] <Sachiru> The intention is to migrate from small HDD partition to larger, dedicated SSD
[08:48] <Sachiru> Does Clonezilla clone UEFI/Grub?
[08:49] <agent_white> sacarlson: Ahhh. Wouldn't be hard to add PXE into the equation. Just PXE to image the bare OS, then Puppet to install all the software :)
[08:50] <sacarlson> agent_white: it was an all in one package you just configured the systems bios to boot pxe pluged them in to the localnet and turn it on and move to the next
[08:51] <sacarlson> agent_white: but I assume now most is done on virtual servers that most never see
[08:52] <agent_white> sacarlson: Ahhh. I only did that with Windows when I worked as a refurb tech.
[08:52] <agent_white> Never tried the same with linux ;)
[08:52] <jrgill> I'm running the latest live CD in memory and seems all SysRq events besides sync are disabled.  Any way I can recover or at least write out my unsaved data?
[08:59] <Varro> Greetings. Could someone explain why doing a "ls -ld /" outputs just one line?
[09:00] <k1l> Varro: that is the expected output
[09:00] <Ben64> Varro: because that is what you told it to do.. check the ls man page
[09:00] <k1l> ls -al /     if you want everything in /
[09:00] <CARA> PAJEROS
[09:01] <CARA> YOU ARE BITCH
[09:01] <Guest88751> quit
[09:01] <agent_white> k1l: How about `ls -ld */`
[09:01] <Varro> so.. ls -ld lists the info of that directory only? not the contents of that directory?
[09:02] <agent_white> Yes. "*/" matches all subdirectories of the current directory.
[09:02] <Ben64> */ is a lot different from /
[09:02] <k1l> make it /*/ if you mean the root directories
[09:03] <agent_white> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14352290/listing-only-directory-using-ls-in-bash
[09:03] <k1l> agent_white: */ only works if you are in /. if you are in /home you see the directories in /home with */
[09:05] <Varro> so how do I ls all files on / including subdirs, without counting the directories as a separate entry?
[09:05] <agent_white> k1l:  ?
[09:05] <agent_white> k1l: It works everywhere.
[09:05] <agent_white> Not sure what you mean.
[09:05] <Ben64> not if you're trying to list stuff in /
[09:06] <Ben64> Varro: what do you mean "without counting the directories as a separate entry"?
[09:06] <k1l> agent_white: ls -ld */ prints the actual directory, not /
[09:07] <agent_white> k1l: Oh! I mean `ls -ld /*`
[09:07] <agent_white> ;)
[09:08] <sacarlson> Varro: maybe with find . ;  that should provide you a list of files and all recursive file contents of the present directory
[09:08] <Varro> Ben64: count the # of files you got on the computer, not counting directories
[09:08] <Varro> sacarlson: yeah find is ok, but is it possible doing the same with ls?
[09:08] <agent_white> Or I guess `find /path/to/dir/ -type d -print` works as well.
[09:09] <k1l> Varro: find . -type f -ls | wc -l
[09:10] <sacarlson> yes k1 is corrrect and no as far as I know you can't filter directory in recursive mode with the ls command
[09:10] <Varro> so listing all files except directories is not possible with ls?
[09:10] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:10] <Ben64> why not just use find?
[09:11] <sacarlson> Varro: the find function is more tuned for that perpose and is used in maybe bash scirpts
[09:11] <sacarlson> maybe = many
[09:12] <Varro> find solves it jsut fine. im just curious if I can achieve the same thing with ls.
[09:12] <agent_white> Varro: Best to use "find" at that point.
[09:12] <Ben64> Varro: time to check the ls manpage then
[09:12] <agent_white> (find all files recursively in current directory) == `find ./ -type f -print`
[09:12] <sacarlson> Varro: maybe you could in a script that would require 4 more lines in it to grep filter out then directory entrys and other crap
[09:13] <sacarlson> Varro: it can be done but why would you when we already have tools to do it easier
[09:14] <sacarlson> Varro: also find is preinstalled at boot so no added packages are needed to use it
[09:17] <Varro> we got a case at school where it asks us to count every file on the computer. and as a tip it says use ls and set recursive). so basically ls -lR /* | wc -l > output But that counts directories aswell, which will give you the wrong answer.
[09:17] <Varro> *ls -laR
[09:17] <Ben64> so you want us to do your homework
[09:17] <Guest35462> where am I?
[09:18] <sacarlson> Ben64: ha ha ya the lazy persons way to do homework these days
[09:18] <Ben64> Guest35462: the Ubuntu support channel, on Freenode
[09:18] <Guest35462> cool
[09:18] <sacarlson> Varro: so they just want to force you to write a bash script to do it the hard way so you can learn to think
[09:19] <Varro> Ben64: don't be condecending. I've read the man page, and there's nothing in there to exclude directory entries. But im no guru at linux, so that's why i came here to ask if there's anything I'm missing.
[09:19] <Ben64> sed, cut, grep, awk
[09:20] <k1l> Varro: i think that is more a task for #bash since its going to far for ubuntu support since we already gave you a working solution
[09:21] <sacarlson> Varro: ya you could write a script in bash with grep filters and such but it would be a chalange.  but I guess that's why your teacher gave it to you
[09:22] <Varro> alright. Thanks anyway :)
[09:22] <sacarlson> Varro: bring us back your results if you don't flunk out
[09:23] <sacarlson> Varro: I'll bet you could also do it in a single line in  a shell with pipes and ;
[09:23] <EriC^^> Varro: you could do it in a million ways
[09:23] <lionrouge> hi !
[09:23] <FilthyMacNasty> high!
[09:24] <lionrouge> i'm going to install Xubuntu 14.04 on a SSD. Should i tune it or it will work out of the box ?
[09:24] <Ben64> it'll work fine
[09:24] <FilthyMacNasty> should be good
[09:25] <lionrouge> ok, thank you
[09:26] <nomic> lionrouge
[09:26] <nomic> yeah - out of the box
[09:26] <nomic> dunno what you mean by 'tune' - it is 'tuned'
[09:29] <fbe_> hey, is the nvidia-prime tool an ubuntu specific tool or is it available in other distributions too?
[09:31] <digitsm> hello
[09:31] <FilthyMacNasty> lo
[09:32] <digitsm> I still have issue to run a new xfce4 session over vnc
[09:32] <digitsm> I tried tightvnc and vnc4server, but both of them show xfce4 incorrectrly
[09:33] <digitsm> According to log files, xfwm can't load many modules: XRender, Xcomposite, XDamage, XFixes
[09:33] <digitsm> It leads my xubuntu look like an old xfce desktop w/o any theme over vnc
[09:34] <evil_dan2wik> hey
[09:34] <digitsm> Was anyone able to run xfce4 over vnc correctly?
[09:34] <evil_dan2wik> how do I setup a USB sort port to access a serial console?
[09:34] <digitsm> EriC^^, ping
[09:35] <EriC^^> digitsm: what's up?
[09:35] <digitsm> EriC^^, Hello. Do you remember me?
[09:35] <digitsm> from last night/day
[09:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:36] <digitsm> I had problem with my vnc
[09:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:36] <cajo> hello, i have a small problem. I have installed Xubuntu on a usb-stick and it runs fine. But now i tried do install via Ubunto Software-center a youtube to mp3 plug-in. The installation takes now about 20 Minutes. How can I abort this installation without crashing my Xubuntu?
[09:36] <digitsm> EriC^^, I can't run xfce4 correctly
[09:36] <EriC^^> did you try the guest account ?
[09:36] <digitsm> EriC^^, yeah
[09:36] <EriC^^> or adding a new user and logging out and back in
[09:36] <EriC^^> not working?
[09:36] <digitsm> EriC^^, no
[09:37] <EriC^^> ok
[09:37] <digitsm> EriC^^, Still looks like the old xfce w/o any them
[09:37] <digitsm> *theme
[09:37] <EriC^^> you're getting the blank screen?
[09:37] <digitsm> EriC^^, no
[09:38] <cajo> someone here to help me?
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !help | cajo,
[09:38] <EriC^^> digitsm: maybe try to reinstall xubuntu-desktop ?
[09:39] <cajo> sorry
[09:39] <cfhowlett> cajo, sorry, scrolled up hid your message.
[09:39] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <digitsm> EriC^^: But my xubuntu is very fresh
[09:39] <digitsm> I installed it a couple days ago
[09:39] <EriC^^> digitsm: who knows, run sudo apt-get update
[09:39] <cfhowlett> cajo, if you break the install, you'll likely break the USB and need to reinstall.
[09:40] <digitsm> EriC^^, The log files show some xfwm components are not supported by my (virtual vnc) display
[09:40] <cajo> That is my experience I made. No chance to abort the installation?
[09:40] <digitsm> EriC^^, Could you see xfce4 desktop correctly over vnc?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> cajo, get a terminal, ps -x to find the install PID and do kill -9
[09:41] <EriC^^> digitsm: i have no experience with vnc
[09:41] <digitsm> EriC^^, oh
[09:41] <digitsm> EriC^^, I read many web pages, seems there is some incompatibilty between vnc and xfce
[09:41] <EriC^^> i see
[09:42] <digitsm> EriC^^, people don't have problem with kde for example. only xfce over vnc
[09:42] <EriC^^> i see
[09:42] <Guest75448> ciao a tutti
[09:42] <Varro> sacarlson: so, if I do ls -lRa /* 2>~/errors.txt | wc -l > lsfiles.txt i get 219555 files (424 errors). and find / type f 2>finderror.txt | wc -l >wcfind.txt gives 219409 (5 errors)
[09:43] <Varro> Ben64: don't be condecending. I've read the man page, and there's nothing in there to exclude directory entries. But im no guru at linux, so that's why i came here to ask if there's anything I'm missing.
[09:43] <EriC^^> digitsm: did you try the /etc/vnc/xstartup adding vncconfig -iconic & ?
[09:43] <digitsm> EriC^^, yeah
[09:43] <EriC^^> ok hold on
[09:44] <Varro> sorry. ls -lRa /* | grep "^-" was it
[09:44] <EriC^^> im reading this , seems solved
[09:44] <EriC^^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2070733
[09:44] <digitsm> EriC^^, I did everything @ http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot
[09:44] <digitsm> very good guide
[09:44] <EriC^^> Varro: i was going to suggest that
[09:44] <EriC^^> Varro: but will it count the symbolic links ?
[09:45] <EriC^^> Varro: if you wanted the links too you could use grep's -v option to just remove what you don't want ( directories and such )
[09:46] <digitsm> EriC^^, my problem is exactly as this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=174343
[09:46] <digitsm> Seems still unresolved
[09:47] <EriC^^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072040
[09:47] <EriC^^> digitsm: did you try to install x11vnc ?
[09:47] <EriC^^> !info x11vnc
[09:48] <digitsm> EriC^^, x11vnc seems good, but it needs that a monitor also connected to pc
[09:48] <digitsm> EriC^^, x11vnc duplicates monitor to a vnc session. I mean it shows :0 display
[09:48] <digitsm> EriC^^, I don't think it can make a new session
[09:50] <EriC^^> digitsm: it might, check the last post in the thread
[09:50] <EriC^^> seems he puts his password in a file
[09:50] <EriC^^> and executes a line with /:0 , maybe you can specify other displays too
[09:50] <Varro> EriC^^: but why doesn't it produce the same result?
[09:50] <EriC^^> Varro: what do you mean?
[09:51] <Sulamif> Hello. I have an issue with Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS. Notebook ASUS X550CV. When the loading reaches login screen, I'm typing in the right password, pressing Enter. The password field shows a rotating circle (like it's loading) but it's for 10 minutes already and nothing change. How can I fix it up? Thank you for answer!
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Sulamif, is this a newly installed ubuntu?
[09:52] <Sulamif> cfhowlett, it's almost newly installed and fully updated Ubuntu. I use it for a week.
[09:52] <EriC^^> Varro: using grep "^-" will return all the lines starting with -, which excludes the directories, but links, start with l so they are excluded too
[09:53] <cajo> cfhowlett, I have now a list but cannot recognize which is the installation the PID to kill.
[09:53] <cfhowlett> Sulamif, could be a kernel update issue.  reboot.  at grub, choose advanced option > boot older ubuntu
[09:54] <Sulamif> cfhowlett, how can I boot into grub after rebooting?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Sulamif, you don't get grub when you boot?
[09:55] <Sulamif> cfhowlett, i just get an ubuntu loading.
[09:55] <cfhowlett> cajo, if you installed via software center, kill that one
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Sulamif, OK, no old kernels available = my theory was wrong.
[09:56] <cajo> cfhowlett, thanks it worked to kill the process. Hope my Xubuntu is still alive. Will reboot now. Thanks anyway for your help
[09:57] <cfhowlett> cajo, happy2help
[09:57] <Sulamif> cfhowlett, I tried Alt+Ctrl+F1 on login screen, it loaded with a delay, I enter my login (which was on login screen) and correct password. It states: Login Incorrect.
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !password | Sulamif,
[09:59] <EriC^^> Varro: you want this ls -lR | grep -v "^d\|^total\|./"
[09:59] <EriC^^> it will exclude directories, and a few other stuff
[10:00] <EriC^^> ( lines starting with total, and ./ )
[10:02] <Sulamif> I've logged in terminal now.
[10:07] <pk___> hi i have step7 basic software working in windows and i wanna interfacewith linux ,is der any possible ways?
[10:08] <bisu> ubottu step7
[10:08] <cfhowlett> pk___, step7????
[10:08] <pk___> simatic step 7 basic plc softwarte
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !wine | pk___ maybe              but there seem to be linux step7 downloads available
[10:11] <pk___> no i tried in wine but it was not possible
[10:11] <cfhowlett> pk___, ask the publisher.
[10:12] <prawnsalad> hello. with ufw, its the first rule that gets matched wins, right?
[10:16] <pk____> is der any chances of using step7 in linux
[10:17] <cfhowlett> pk____, no word of success anywhere that I've seen.  demand linux from the publisher or use a FOSS alternative.
[10:17] <mjayk> cfhowlett: if only the world worked like that :(
[10:17] <digitsm> EriC^^, I put so much time on making a good looking xfce over vnc. I am going to give it up
[10:18] <cfhowlett> mjayk, yeah --- still waiting on my flying car that was promised in 1975 ...
[10:18] <digitsm> EriC^^, But I want to consult with you about something, if you have time :)
[10:20] <tamil> hi
[10:20] <digitsm> I need Windows and MS Office for my university stuff. So I planned to use Windows on my laptop and ubuntu on my pc and connect to my pc over vnc in Windows to work with linux
[10:20] <pk____> oh now den i have no chance of interafcing with linux:(
[10:20] <EriC^^> digitsm: sure
[10:20] <EriC^^> digitsm: don't give up
[10:20] <digitsm> I am a heavy linux user, but recently I found out I can't satisfy many needs only by using linux
[10:21] <mjayk> cfhowlett: im sorry im still working on that
[10:21] <cfhowlett> mjayk, "make it so!"
[10:21] <pk____> but how ca i talk to plc using linux
[10:21] <digitsm> EriC^^, For example making powerpoint slides, presentation and like that is much faster on Windows + MS Powerpoint
[10:22] <EriC^^> digitsm: you can dual boot
[10:22] <FilthyMacNasty> or install cygwin
[10:22] <digitsm> EriC^^, Yeah I have both linux and windows on my laptop. But it is very annoying to reboot for every simple task like making a slide
[10:22] <pk> but how can i talk to plc using ubuntu
[10:23] <pk> that is my problem
[10:23] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, cygwin never fills like real linux
[10:23] <cfhowlett> pk, http://www.linux-automation.de/plc/index_en.html
[10:23] <EriC^^> digitsm: you can use a vm
[10:23] <EriC^^> digitsm: install win in a vm with a shared folder
[10:23] <digitsm> EriC^^, My laptop is not so strong for simultanously running (virtual) windows and linux
[10:24] <cfhowlett> pk, it appears that you cannot.  just notice all the links on this topic are quite old.
[10:24] <pk> but using vm how can i do user interface to linux:(
[10:24] <FilthyMacNasty> vmware
[10:24] <digitsm> EriC^^, A dual core laptop (intel core2due) with 4GB RAM. It will make both linux and windows slow
[10:25] <digitsm> I tried it before
[10:25] <EriC^^> digitsm: hmm
[10:25] <EriC^^> i have a i7
[10:25] <pk> by using libnodave only s7300 and s7200 works
[10:25] <FilthyMacNasty> so go buy a $50 dual core tower and put it on your network
[10:25] <pk> but i am using s71200 plc
[10:25] <digitsm> EriC^^, Could you run windows smoothly as a VM in your linux?
[10:25] <EriC^^> i think win and linux should be fine
[10:26] <EriC^^> digitsm: yes it runs fine
[10:26] <EriC^^> as well as another vm sometimes too
[10:26] <EriC^^> the fan turns on
[10:26] <EriC^^> but other than that it feels as usual
[10:26] <ikonia> digitsm: it depends on things - it's not a black and white answer
[10:26] <EriC^^> digitsm: yes it depends on what you're running
[10:26] <digitsm> EriC^^, Oooh! A powerfull system. Do you run a win xp? (because running a win7/8 in a vm is very heavy)
[10:26] <EriC^^> if it's only slides and such it'll be ok i think
[10:27] <EriC^^> digitsm: no, win8
[10:27] <FilthyMacNasty> why not use openoffice impress?
[10:27] <EriC^^> i also dual boot, but like you im lazy
[10:27] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, I used libreoffice a long time
[10:27] <EriC^^> :)
[10:27] <digitsm> It really sucks
[10:27] <FilthyMacNasty> openoffice impress is better
[10:27] <digitsm> I even wrote my BSc thesis with libreoffice writer
[10:27] <digitsm> But impress is very bad
[10:29] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, Some problems for a presentation in linux: 1. while showing slides it will go to screensaver! 2. when connecting a projector it won't make both screens the same resolution (you have to do it manually which takes time)
[10:29] <FilthyMacNasty> I guess its what you learn to use well
[10:29] <ikonia> no, it's not
[10:29] <EriC^^> digitsm: not all
[10:29] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with "learning"
[10:29] <ikonia> the tools are not up to the same standard as microsoft, and have compatability issues,
[10:29] <EriC^^> digitsm: in enlightenment, when the screensaver comes and you remove it it asks if you're doing a presentation or what
[10:29] <digitsm> 3. There are many ready templates for MS Powerpoint
[10:29] <ikonia> digitsm: use what you feel is best for your needs,
[10:29] <prawnsalad> hello, would anyone know blocking an Ip via ufw or iptables would still be letting traffic in from the source ip?
[10:29] <FilthyMacNasty> I run trivia nights with 2 projectors almost every weekend with impress
[10:30] <ikonia> prawnsalad: it's not blocked
[10:30] <ikonia> prawnsalad: if you've blocked it, it won't be allowing taffic in
[10:30] <suncokret> hello
[10:30] <suncokret> i have double boot, when i instaled Lubuntu i had windows xp sp2. Later i was replace windows xp sp2 (with norton ghost) with windows xp sp3 and i have error - when Lubuntu is starting there is message that it can't recognize partition where is windows and ask me if i want to wait or skip mounting, i used NTFS configuration tool and partition is mounted in system, but i still have that message when starting Lubuntu. How to fix this?
[10:31] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, trivia nights?
[10:31] <prawnsalad> ikonia: that much i got. however ufw has a rule in first its position that says it *should* be denying traffic. and i also see the rule in iptables INPUT chain
[10:31] <digitsm> What is this?
[10:31] <prawnsalad> the source IP has been copy/pasted from logs, it is definitely correct
[10:32] <FilthyMacNasty> a 3 hour presentation where people answer trivia questions for prizes
[10:32] <ikonia> prawnsalad: what is the rule - can you show me the rule (use a pastebin please)
[10:32] <digitsm> EriC^^, I use xfce4 not enlightment
[10:33] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, I like to make impress my default app, but it takes more time. e.g. there are very less templates for it
[10:34] <EriC^^> digitsm: the bug seems to have been fixed
[10:34] <cfhowlett> digitsm, impress can use wps and windows templates ...
[10:34] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, And how do you make all displays the same resolution
[10:34] <digitsm> cfhowlett, it can but with defects
[10:34] <sacarlson> suncokret: so lubuntu still boots ok then?  do you have it mounting a disk in /etc/fstab that is no longer a ext2 partition?
[10:34] <prawnsalad> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/hDAbeLFv
[10:34] <digitsm> e.g. the bullets will be broken
[10:34] <digitsm> etc.
[10:35] <digitsm> it's easier to make your own template rather that fix an uncorrectly imported powerpoint template
[10:35] <prawnsalad> ufw rule, iptables rule, how im still seeing the traffic, and a syslog mention
[10:35] <FilthyMacNasty> each one has its own resolution I have a 120" screen and a 300 inch screen
[10:36] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, Ooh! So you don't mirror the displays?
[10:36] <ikonia> prawnsalad: is there a UFW rule that says "open port 80"
[10:36] <ikonia> as that maybe overriding your rule
[10:36] <EriC^^> digitsm: in the display settings i think there should be "mirrored displays" on xubuntu, ubuntu has it
[10:36] <ikonia> prawnsalad: I don't see it in your iptables output
[10:37] <digitsm> EriC^^, Yeah there is, but every display will have a different resolution
[10:37] <EriC^^> digitsm: otherwise i guess you could make a script that uses xrandr to set stuff up when a projector is plugged in
[10:37] <ikonia> prawnsalad: you do seem to have "any any" rules open before the drop
[10:37] <ikonia> so it looks like it maybe pattern matching the first rule before the drop
[10:37] <FilthyMacNasty> I use the same resolution on both and use the projectors to size the displays
[10:37] <digitsm> Which results in cropped desktop in lower resolution display
[10:38] <digitsm> EriC^^, Hmmm! writing a script!
[10:38] <digitsm> good idea
[10:38] <ikonia> prawnsalad: sorry, miss-read thats the drop rule
[10:38] <sacarlson> ikonia: prawnsalad: ya I guess we don't know what's in those pretables, so if you just insert the drop before them instead of put it at the end I guess it should work
[10:38] <think> xrandr can also be used to scale it mmmmm
[10:39] <ikonia> prawnsalad: for a test, do a flush all then just add the drop rule then you'll see it working
[10:39] <prawnsalad> sacarlson: in ufw or iptables? right now it is the very first rule in ufw - which according to docs should match first
[10:39] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: I'm not familiure with the workings of ufw, I'm old school with iptables
[10:40] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, but you have to set same resolution for both projectors manually. which takes some time. not as easy as pressing super+p
[10:40] <prawnsalad> sacarlson: ok, whats the easiest way to insert the iptables rule in first position?
[10:40] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: you could maybe just add another insert with iptables
[10:40] <prawnsalad> im not familiar with iptables other than _L :)
[10:40] <suncokret> sacarlson, lubuntu boot fine, but i have that warning message about partition where is xp. after replacing xp sp2 with xp sp3 i had some error message after grub menu when i choose xp, but xp was start fine, and i fix that with grub customizer
[10:40] <FilthyMacNasty> my projectors have size and focus functions
[10:41] <FilthyMacNasty> they will both do 300 inches I just use one on a 120 inch screen
[10:41] <sacarlson> suncokret: ok so problem solved I take it
[10:42] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: let me look at my old stuf to make up a line that should insert.  I'm not sure how it will work along with ufw as maybe ufw will override it
[10:42] <suncokret> no, there was 2 problems, i solve first with grub custimizer, but i didn't solve second problem :)
[10:43] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, Let me explain more. I have a 1680x1050 laptop display. But my projector (at university) has is 1024x768. When I connect the projector I have to manually lower my laptop display to 1024x768, otherwise my desktop will be shown cropped on the projector
[10:43] <suncokret> sacarlson, this is second problem: when Lubuntu is starting there is message that it can't recognize partition where is windows and ask me if i want to wait or skip mounting
[10:44] <EriC^^> digitsm: mirrored displays should use the same resolution for both displays
[10:44] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, And lowering my resolution manually will take time, which is high for a 20min presentation
[10:44] <FilthyMacNasty> well I did a little homework and bought a laptop with the same resolution as my projectors
[10:44] <EriC^^> it's odd that it doesn't
[10:45] <digitsm> EriC^^, No it doesn't. (I use xfce4 and nvidia xserver settings)
[10:46] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, :)) The problem is that you don't always know resolution of the projector. For example in an invited talk
[10:46] <digitsm> EriC^^, yeah it's odd
[10:46] <FilthyMacNasty> true, I bring my own equipment for my shows
[10:47] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: I'm not totaly sure of this but you can try this sudo iptables -I INPUT  -s <IP_ADDRESS>  -j DROP
[10:47] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty :)) oooooh!
[10:47] <FilthyMacNasty> they pay me $500 a night for a trivia night
[10:47] <prawnsalad> sacarlson: ive managed ot get this rule as the first in the INPUT chain. is that what you were suggesting? DROP       all  --  ec2-50-18-210-65.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com  anywhere
[10:47] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: that should insert it above all and drop all source ip of <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:48] <digitsm> FilthyMacNasty, OK! it's your business, no a quick talk you want to show to students
[10:48] <digitsm> *not
[10:48] <think> not a bad deal filthymacnasty
[10:48] <prawnsalad> sacarlson: ah cool, same command i got, but i added a 1 after INPUT
[10:48] <prawnsalad> but even with that, traffic still comes in
[10:48] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: like I said I'm not familure with the ufw format .  if you show me the results it creates in iptables -L  I could tell  you
[10:49] <FilthyMacNasty> it's a long process developing the presentation
[10:49] <FilthyMacNasty> 100 trivia questions not too hard, not too easy and all the answers researched
[10:50] <prawnsalad> sacarlson: the full INPUT chain, http://pastebin.com/Rg36iaNy
[10:50] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: a 1 after in put?   maybe an i for input device
[10:50] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: yes that looks like it should work
[10:51] <prawnsalad> http requests are still coming in from that source though
[10:51] <FilthyMacNasty> slam port 80 shut
[10:51] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: try sudo iptables -v -L  you should see the number of packets the get droped
[10:52] <Nagendra> hi
[10:52] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: not sure how it could get past it now maybe preroute
[10:53] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: maybe more detail with iptables -v -t nat -L ; iptables -v -t mangle -L ;  but I think they also created custom tables in ufw
[10:54] <FilthyMacNasty> pull the network cable, the ultimate firewall
[10:54] <MMukherjee>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:54] <MMukherjee> Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main mysql-client-core-5.5 i386 5.5.38-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:54] <MMukherjee>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:54] <MMukherjee> Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main mysql-client-5.5 i386 5.5.38-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:54] <MMukherjee>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:54] <MMukherjee> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-client-core-5.5_5.5.38-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:54] <unopaste> MMukherjee you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:55] <prawnsalad> ahh! i apologies sacarlson, had just realised that my access log IPs are rewritten from cloudflare. so that IP will not actually be the source >.<
[10:55] <prawnsalad> explains all the confusion.
[10:55] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578517/
[10:55] <MMukherjee> Why? D:
[10:56] <sacarlson> prawnsalad: wow ok but you must be close then
[10:56] <sacarlson> MMukherjee: try sudo apt-get update ;
[10:57] <mercu> so much people
[10:57] <prawnsalad> sacarlson: yea, just means i have to block it at the cloudflare level instead
[10:57] <MMukherjee> This time this.
[10:57] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578522/
[10:58] <MMukherjee> It didn't fix my problem
[10:58] <sacarlson> MMukherjee: I take it from that it was already installed
[10:58] <MMukherjee> No.
[10:58] <MMukherjee> I am installing this for the first time.
[10:59] <EriC^^> MMukherjee: did you type sudo apt-get upgrade ? or update?
[10:59] <sacarlson> MMukherjee: and you already performed the above mentioned   sudo apt-get update?
[10:59] <MMukherjee> I did
[11:00] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578522/
[11:00] <MMukherjee> This was the result
[11:00] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578522/
[11:00] <ASHER1> help please someone to know about supybot? command to alias?
[11:00] <MMukherjee> sacarlson: ^
[11:00] <EriC^^> that's upgrade i think
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !info supybot
[11:01] <EriC^^> scroll up and check the command
[11:01] <sacarlson> MMukherjee: please include the command you performed in the paistbin
[11:01] <MMukherjee> 'kk
[11:01] <ASHER1> no no
[11:01] <ASHER1> i need only help about command something little
[11:01] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578532/
[11:02] <MMukherjee> Happy?
[11:02] <knightshade> hi
[11:02] <EriC^^> MMukherjee: we said, update
[11:02] <sacarlson> MMukherjee: that is not the command I requested
[11:03] <MMukherjee> 'k
[11:03] <sacarlson> I only have a few more minutes
[11:03] <MMukherjee> Working, thanks!
[11:04] <sacarlson> then I'll leave it to EriC
[11:08] <frank659> ,..,
[11:14] <backbox> hola
[11:15] <brent> ihola
[11:17] <sacarlson>    	 	 	 	 	 	   I have now created a deb package to make it simple to create a back door into any debian derivative like ubuntu, debian, mint.... to make it possible to remote access systems without the users knowing, that are behind nat firewalls.  Some may consider this to be much the same as a Trojan.  Do you all think I should publish this or could it or would it be used more for bad things than good?
[11:18] <agent_white> wat
[11:18] <FilthyMacNasty> wat wat?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, that = hacking
[11:19] <brent> publish it
[11:19] <sacarlson> it's original intension was to make it easy to remotely help people
[11:20] <sacarlson> brent: ok 1 vote for
[11:20] <sacarlson> it can also be used to locate your stolen computer I guess,  if the theaf brings it online at some point
[11:21] <brent> how so?
[11:21] <sacarlson> brent: it is a very simple reverse ssh setup
[11:23] <israel> how do I force pkexec to use a graphical dialog?
[11:24] <EriC^^> israel: i think it uses one by default..
[11:24] <brent> sacarlson, is it common to find something like this?
[11:24] <israel> EriC^^  I built from  a minimal base, and pkexec only shows up in the terminal
[11:24] <sacarlson> brent: I looked for one and didn't find it so I made one
[11:25] <israel> i.e. synaptic-pkexec shows a login if I run it form a terminal, but nothing if I click it from the menu.
[11:26] <EriC^^> israel: i guess you're missing a package?
[11:26] <EriC^^> !find pkexec
[11:26] <sacarlson> brent: it's also very small at only 1.2kb for the entire package
[11:27] <santosh> hello
[11:27] <EriC^^> !info polkit-gnome
[11:28] <sacarlson> ok I got to go chat yall later
[11:28] <israel> !info policykit-1-gnome
[11:28] <israel> I have that installed...
[11:28] <EriC^^> same here
[11:30] <israel> Eric^^  I am not sure how to make it use the graphical dialog... gksu works....
[11:31] <brent> any of you guys have experience with tmuxinator?
[11:32] <ansu> I want to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04. What happens with packages that are not available in a 14.04 repository?
[11:33] <EriC^^> israel: try ps aux | grep policy
[11:33] <EriC^^> see if it's running
[11:34] <EriC^^> israel: i get /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
[11:34] <EriC^^> israel: and /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[11:35] <israel> Eric^^ I get the first one
[11:36] <israel> Eric^^ that must be the issue somehow...
[11:36] <EriC^^> type /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[11:36] <EriC^^> then test pkexec
[11:37] <israel> Eric^^ yep... that did it!!
[11:37] <israel> So I need this to start with the session, I suppose
[11:38] <EriC^^> yup
[11:38] <EriC^^> add it to .xinitrc
[11:38] <EriC^^> i guess
[11:38] <ritesh> does elasticsearch 1.3.4 supports logstash 1.4.2 ?
[11:38] <israel> OK, I will try this and let you know  Thanks EriC^^
[11:38] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:46] <impi> hello. im running 14.04 - in my terminal if it goes in active the text disapear
[11:46] <impi> this forces me to hit tab to make the text come back again
[11:46] <impi> anyone seen this?
[11:48] <israel> EriC^^ I have tried adding it to xinitrc with exec at the beginning and & at the end... but it hasn't been working... I even rebooted the VM
[11:49] <EriC^^> do you have something before it?
[11:49] <EriC^^> exec <de> ?
[11:50] <Narwhaal> hi, I'm unable still to boot from the Ubuntu DVD I made this morning :/
[11:50] <Narwhaal> I've checked the image, checked the burned disk, used multiple burning softwares, and still can't boot from disk
[11:53] <israel> EriC^^ yeah I wrote the whole polkit-gnome line out
[11:53] <israel> exec <//////> &
[11:57] <EriC^^> israel: i mean is there any exec xfce4 or something before it? cause i think the rest of the lines won't get executed
[11:57] <ASHER1> !info supybot
[11:58] <israel> Oh... yeah... there is exec dbus-launch jwm &
[11:58] <israel> but shouldn't & work the same as in the terminal?
[11:59] <Guest87976> Hi, I've got a problem with actualization of US 14.04... IP <IP_ADDRESS> [2001:1488:ffff::63 80] isn't accesible. Do anybody know what's happening? Thx.
[12:00] <EriC^^> israel: you shouldn't background the WM as far as i know
[12:03] <israel> EriC^^ I tried reversing the order, and putting  /usr/lib/pol......../ before jwm  and it still did not work correctly.
[12:06] <israel> EriC^^ I *could* add that to the JWM 'autostart' but... shouldn't this be handled by the session or something like this?  I am not using lightdm either... I am using SLiM...
[12:06] <EriC^^> israel: try to add it before the jwm, with a &
[12:06] <cjdm> Hi there. My 64 bits Xubuntu installation does not recognise my 4GB of RAM
[12:06] <EriC^^> just type /usr/lib/..... &
[12:07] <dilbert_> Hi, I've got a problem with actualisation of US 14.04... IP <IP_ADDRESS> [2001:1488:ffff::63 80] isn't accesible. Do anybody know what's happening? Thx.
[12:07] <israel> EriC^^ i tried that one also :(  it did not work....
[12:08] <dilbert7> Hi, I've got a problem with actualisation of US 14.04... IP <IP_ADDRESS> [2001:1488:ffff::63 80] isn't accesible. Do anybody know what's happening? Thx.
[12:09] <israel> cjdm what does the command       free       show you?
[12:11] <nekfh> hi
[12:12] <Steven_> hello folks
[12:12] <israel> ahoy there!
[12:12] <dilbert7> Hi
[12:12] <Steven_> I've just installed apache2 with php5 as I've done a million times before (just not on 14.04), and my phpinfo.php doesn't render
[12:12] <Steven_> did something change?
[12:14] <Narwhaal> any help ? :/
[12:14] <Narwhaal> I've been googling for hours since coming home from college
[12:15] <EriC^^> israel: you did add "&" to the end right?
[12:15] <cjdm> israel, hi, 'free' shows me that I only have 3GB. Whilst lshw -class memory shows me 4GB
[12:16] <tafa2> Can anyone recommend a good SSH app for Mac to organise multiple SSH connections - something a bit more structured than iterm or standard terminal?
[12:16] <israel> EriC^^ yeah... I have tried it with and without exec at the beginning as well...
[12:16] <EriC^^> israel: ok, you could add it to rc.local
[12:16] <EriC^^> israel: or if you want you can add it to root's crontab, as @reboot , it would run when cron runs, which is way before when it's being run on my pc
[12:16] <deluxghost> hello
[12:17] <drussell> Narwhaal: what's the error message?
[12:17] <Narwhaal> there is none
[12:17] <Narwhaal> it burns fine
[12:18] <Narwhaal> but I just can't boot
[12:18] <drussell> Narwhaal: do you have another DVD which does boot fine?
[12:18] <Narwhaal> I've already verified the MD5 etc.
[12:18] <israel> EriC^^  Ok, I will check this out and see...
[12:18] <Narwhaal> drussell, yes
[12:18] <Narwhaal> but
[12:18] <Narwhaal> that's Ubuntu 13.04
[12:19] <elfranne> test
[12:19] <drussell> Narwhaal: hmm, so does it just skip past the DVD?
[12:19] <israel> cjdm what do you mean that it doesn't recognize your memory?  It sounds like it can find it.  what else do you mean?
[12:19] <Narwhaal> drussell, yes
[12:19] <frakk> Hello, good people! I'm downloading a ~2GB video file off my Ubuntu server and was wondering how to best compress it before downloading. I tried using p7zip, and to my astonishment the file ended up slightly bigger! It's a .mp4 file. Any tips?
[12:20] <drussell> Narwhaal: hmm, and you've tested the 13.04 DVD still boots fine?
[12:20] <Narwhaal> drussell, yes
[12:20] <cjdm> israel: I mean that it shows only 3GB when checking the details of my installation.
[12:21] <elfranne> ping ?
[12:21] <drussell> Narwhaal: which image are you downloading/burning?
[12:21] <drussell> elfranne: pong
[12:21] <Narwhaal> drussell, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:22] <elfranne> drussel: thx ... testing a new irc client
[12:22] <drussell> Narwhaal: sure, but which specific image, what is the full filename
[12:22] <Narwhaal> ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:22] <Narwhaal> MD5 is 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd
[12:23] <israel> cjdm: ok... hmmm I am not sure why...  did a previous version show you have more?
[12:24] <cjdm> israel: is a new memory, I replace one of 1GB with a new one of 2GB
[12:25] <israel> cjdm: Oh, ok, so you upgraded the computer after it already has Xubuntu installed, right?
[12:25] <cjdm> israel: Yes.
[12:26] <cjdm> israel: do you think I have to reinstall?
[12:26] <somsip> cjdm: not at all
[12:26] <israel> No
[12:26] <Narwhaal> drussell, I'm just gonna redownload everything
[12:26] <Narwhaal> I cba anymore :/
[12:27] <israel> Narwhaal you can use zsync instead
[12:27] <geirha> the md5sum matches http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/MD5SUMS  so I don't see any point in redownloading
[12:28] <Narwhaal> geirha, I mean redownload everything, anti-virus, burn software; hell, even Windows if I have to
[12:28] <Narwhaal> seems to be more a problem with my computer
[12:29] <geirha> Narwhaal: Have you tried with USB though?
[12:29] <israel> Narwhaal is your BIOS setup to boot from CD/DVD first?
[12:29] <Narwhaal> geirha, yes
[12:29] <Narwhaal> israel, yes
[12:29] <israel> :)  just checking
[12:30] <geirha> I see. weird that 13.10 would work but not 14.04.1
[12:30] <Narwhaal> I've installed and updated my Ubuntu for ~ 5 or 6 years now ^^
[12:30] <Narwhaal> I've not tried 13.10, only 13.04
[12:30] <israel> cjdm: I know it can be done, just can't think off the top of me head right now... other than rebooting so the kernel can reload everything...
[12:31] <Abhijit> anyone can give me link to raid + preseed + ubuntu in detail?
[12:31] <Abhijit> with actual real examples?
[12:33] <cjdm> israel: thanks, I been reading some posts about it and nothing seems to help my case. Thank's anyway.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Narwhaal: does the system have a make an model?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:57] <Narwhaal> ActionParsnip, what do you mean ? my actual computer ?
[13:01] <ThePendulum> Hey. I have an HP Pavilion laptop here running Ubuntu 14.04. Whenever it is not plugged in, the maximum brightness lowers. To be clear, brightness control does work, but only up to a limited amount.
[13:01] <ThePendulum> Any ideas on how to increase the maximum brightness while on battery?
[13:01] <ThePendulum> (the brightness bar still maxes out, but the brightness it's at at that point is significantly lower than when it's plugged in)
[13:03] <ibsin> Hello
[13:03] <ibsin> Could someone help me?
[13:04] <ThePendulum> ibsin: Just ask your question ;)
[13:04] <jotik> ibsin: we don't know
[13:05] <ibsin> I wqas using Unity Tweak Tool, and switched the icon theme. And now, even after removing hte theme, the cursor is still stuck on that theme. Can someone help me revert it back to the default?
[13:05] <zadock> does anybody know a website with ssh lessons on linux terminal, security and stuff?
[13:06] <ThePendulum> I solved my issue btw, it was not Ubuntu-related but was a Catalyst Control Center setting. Cheers!
[13:06] <zadock> in any lesson you would have to login to a server, through ssh, and use some commands, manipulate some files and find the password for the next level
[13:06] <Pici> zadock: Try asking ##security or something, its not really an Ubuntu thing.
[13:06] <zteam> ibsin, search dash for appearance and change your theme back from there
[13:07] <ibsin> It's on the default theme right now
[13:07] <vocx> zadock, that's kinda generic question. Normally you approach a problem, like "I want to do that", and then find how to do it. But just something about "security", it's a bit vague. Is this for you or for somebody else?
[13:07] <ibsin> The cursor is still stuck though
[13:08] <zadock> vocx, it's for me
[13:08] <zteam> ibsin, try to change to another theme from there and then change back
[13:08] <ibsin> This why I don't use the themes xD
[13:08] <zadock> i can't remember too many details about it. i used to take the lessons on this site, but now i can't find it
[13:09] <ertyui> hello there
[13:10] <ibsin> Gaaahhh....it's still not working >w<
[13:10] <ertyui> basic question, i would like the number of user affected on the group staff, how to do i t?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> ertyui  what group staff? affected by what?
[13:11] <vocx> zadock, you mean you were already doing this in a website, and now you forgot? I see. Well, I think the best thing to do is to practice, that is, to actually have a server running and stuff. If you just test it once or twice through lessons, but you are not really going to use it, then yeah, it may be entertaining for a while, but do you really need it?
[13:11] <ibsin> Cause, I know that the cursor is white, and it's not right now, even with switching it back and forth. And the loading icon is....some small watch, like I think from the Macbuntu theme I installed, but got rid of
[13:12] <ertyui> number of users affected on group staff in linux ?
[13:12] <zadock> vocx, i guess i don't really need it. it was just a fun way to learn that stuff
[13:13] <vocx> zadock, yes, I kinda understand what you mean. If you have the time it's good, but for example, I don't have so much time, so I forget every time how to secure copy, so I just check every time online how to do it, and so.
[13:13] <tsunamie> is there away to setup a reverse proxy which allows the incoming connection to use a self signed cert. However when the proxy goes to the backend service to use a client certificate?
[13:14] <ibsin> Anyone?
[13:15] <zteam> ibsin, well that does have to do with the theme
[13:15] <zadock> vocx, i see. well, it seems i found it. this is what i was talking about: http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/
[13:15] <ibsin> I know, and it' weird that it's stuck like this and not reverting back
[13:15] <OerHeks> ibsin mactheme and removal cause issues, i think time to reinstall
[13:15] <zteam> so chaning your theme back should definetly work
[13:15] <ibsin> Reinstall what?
[13:16] <ibsin> Reinstall the theme? Or....the whole system?
[13:17] <zteam> ibsin, you can always, go into nautilus and erase the settings folders
[13:17] <ibsin> I can? owo
[13:17] <zteam> ibsin, that would reset all your settings to default
[13:18] <ibsin> Where do I go to do that? And, will it endanger the system at all that I'll have to fix something?
[13:18] <OerHeks> mac theme goes deeper than that, the price for blasfemie
[13:18] <DhcpIssues> Hello all, I am trying to configure my ubuntu unit as a router. All went well but my dhcp doesn't seems to work. If I try to connect a laptop to the internal address then no DHCP lease is given to it. I tried rebooting and changing the subnet but that doesn't seem to work.
[13:19] <zteam> ibsin, go into nautilus press CTRL + H to view your hidden folders, press ctrl +A to select all your folders and then deselect .mozilla documents, pictures and all other folders you want to keep
[13:20] <zteam> ibsin, but keep in mind anything you don't deselect will be moved to the trash
[13:21] <ibsin> Well, how will I get those folders back after deleting them?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> ibsin, logout.  login.  files will reset
[13:21] <CarlFK> DhcpIssues: how did you setup the dhcp server?  (did you edit a config file?  if so, post it)
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> DhcpIssues  use a pastebin for multiple line pastes
[13:22] <ibsin> Wait...so, I delete those folders, logout, and they'll be fixed?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ibsin, yep.
[13:22] <zteam> ibsin, you don't need too, Ubuntu will recreate them for you, but as I said, remember to deselect .mozilla otherwise you will lose your saved passwords
[13:23] <chris___6> reboot
[13:23] <DhcpIssues> CarlFK: I followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router and the configuration from dhcp is http://paste.ubuntu.com/8579099/
[13:23] <zteam> ibsin, .thunderbird can be useful to backup too, if you use thunderbird
[13:24] <R13ose> How do I upgrade FileZilla?  I have two .tar.bz2 files but unsure on how to truely update this.  Any ideas?
[13:24] <NeoGeo64> hello all
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  filezilla is in the repos
[13:25] <NeoGeo64> My Ubuntu downloads updates automatically every day.  There seems to be way more updates than I ever had to download in Windows 7. Why is this?
[13:25] <NeoGeo64> There is always some package/security update/etc.
[13:25] <NeoGeo64> I guess its like that no matter what OS I'm running?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> NeoGeo64, because win7 got very poor support compared to ubuntu?
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  it's called "security"
[13:26] <NeoGeo64> I thought Linux was "secure"
[13:26] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: yes but this is 3.5.3 when th newest version is <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:26] <NeoGeo64> Is Linux more secure than Windows 7?
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  then contact the maintainer of the version you use
[13:26] <cfhowlett> NeoGeo64, generally speaking yes
[13:26] <NeoGeo64> OK great
[13:27] <cfhowlett> NeoGeo64, windows is a much more popular target for malware users
[13:27] <cfhowlett> *abusers*
[13:27] <NeoGeo64> I'm actually running a variant of Ubuntu called Mint
[13:27] <NeoGeo64> im really happy with linux
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  mint has its own channel
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  and read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus#Possible_reasons_linux_is_less_prone_to_malware
[13:27] <NeoGeo64> i use ubuntu for my server
[13:27] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: okay I will do that
[13:28] <NeoGeo64> Ubuntu is way better than WIndows Server
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !server | NeoGeo64,
[13:28] <kaligne> Hello I came here yesterday to ask questions regarding multibooting on a usb using syslinux. I can boot from iso files, everthing is perfect. THough loading the iso takes time, so I opied all the iso's content on my usb stick and modified the syslinux.cfg file to take this into account. On the syslynux documentation, I read "APPEND root=/dev/sda1". Does it mean that the root directory for the new boot will be "/dev/sda1"? If so,
[13:28] <kaligne> since I am booting form my usb, how can I write the "APPEND root=/dev/sdX" ? I mean it is not ffixed, sometimes my usb will be on "/dev/sdb", another time it will be /dev/sdc".
[13:29] <r4do> hi guys
[13:29] <kaligne> here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/syslinux#Kernel_parameters
[13:30] <ibsin> Hey, thanks, it worked c:
[13:30] <r4do> i'm setting up backupninja
[13:30] <zteam> NeoGeo64, the reason that you see that many security updates in Ubuntu is that they update it as soon as a security hole is found,Microsoft only updates Windows once a month :-)
[13:30] <r4do> and when i'm executing it, it doesn't do anything
[13:30] <zteam> ibsin, of course it did ;-)
[13:31] <r4do> log is ok:
[13:31] <r4do> Oct 06 01:00:01 Info: >>>> starting action /etc/backup.d/20.mysql (because current time matches everyday at 01:00)
[13:31] <r4do> Oct 06 01:00:01 Info: <<<< finished action /etc/backup.d/20.mysql: SUCCESS
[13:31] <r4do> Oct 06 01:00:01 Info: FINISHED: 1 actions run. 0 fatal. 0 error. 0 warning.
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  hit alt-f2 and enter update manager
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  to change settings
[13:32] <DhcpIssues> CarlFK: I have to reboot this unit, i am back soon.
[13:33] <NeoGeo64> zteam: The power of peer reviewed code, huh?
[13:33] <NelsonMinar> how do I debug a problem with udev and my ethernet device being named /dev/p4p1 instead of /dev/eth0? /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is being ignored, I think
[13:33] <NelsonMinar> it's a remote server, so if I get it wrong I can't access the system again after reboot
[13:35] <sacarlson> NelsonMinar:  is it still working now?  if so, if it aint broke don't fix it
[13:36] <NelsonMinar> sacarlson: it's working now, but I worry it won't next time it reboots. The 70-persistent-net.rules says to name it eth0, but it's running as p4p1.
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> NelsonMinar  there's alos #ubuntu-server
[13:36] <NelsonMinar> I think installing biosdevname may have been what broke it. Does that change how Ubuntu boots?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !find biosdevname
[13:39] <NelsonMinar> my working theory is that Ubuntu's boot sequence is different if that program is installed, but I have no evidece for it
[13:39] <NeoGeo64> LBreakout2 is the best game for Linux ever
[13:40] <sacarlson> NelsonMinar: maybe you could setup a virtualbox on your local machine setup in the same manner that you can experiment with,  without causing any big problems
[13:40] <sacarlson> NelsonMinar: otherwise there is no real way to be sure what you try will work or not
[13:41] <NelsonMinar> sacarlson: thanks. the docs for this stuff are terribly tangled in Google searches. May also try #ubuntu-server
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> NelsonMinar  or if you're skilled enough: use a fakeroot
[13:41] <DhcpIssues> I just tried to purge and reinstall isc-dhcp-server, this worked succesfully but it doesn't change the issue. I do remember that it started after I switched the two cables. I made eth0 intern and eth1 extern. Is it possible that this is the cause ?
[13:41] <NelsonMinar> 10 years of administering remote Linux servers and this is the first one I've ever killed :-)
[13:42] <nekfh> xD
[13:43] <sacarlson> DhcpIssues: I think isc-dhcp-server default is to serve just on eth0 but you would have to look at the configs to be sure and change them to suite  your needs
[13:44] <sacarlson> DhcpIssues: mine are customized so I don't recall what there were when I first installed it
[13:57] <sacarlson> I have now created a deb package I now call backdoor-1.0-1.deb to make it simple to create a back door into any debian derivative like ubuntu, debian, mint.... to make it possible to remote access systems without the users knowing, that are difficult to access behind nat firewalls.  Some may consider this to be much the same as a Trojan.  Do you all think I should publish this or do you think it could or would be used more for
[14:00] <zermanno> #cmake
[14:01] <TronicKey> How do I untar the contents of a recursive dir but not the root dir. Doing "tar xzfz src.tar.gz" in the dir /usr/src makes a collision with the dir src names.
[14:02] <EriC^^> TronicKey: mkdir <other dir>; mv src.tar.gz <other dir>; tar xzvf ..
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> sacarlson  publish it, if someone finds a security issue, he will repair it... that's open source
[14:03] <moreno_> ciao a tutti
[14:04] <TronicKey> EriC^^, was thinking bout that but the partitions are not big enough for 5 GB of source code. It is all over xenocara (X.org) kernel and userland for OpenBSD 5.5
[14:04] <ubuntu> good
[14:05] <ubuntu> where is the officiaal ubutu mate chan ?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> ubuntulog, as mate is not an official ubuntu distro ... don't know
[14:05] <k1l> Guest5485: #ubuntu-mate ?
[14:05] <TronicKey> but I am SSH'n from a GNU/Linux Ubuntu machine to that headless server.
[14:05] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: it already warns at install the problem of security as the ssh keys made are auto sent back to the point of origin.  it's not made for security
[14:06] <Guest5485> ssh -l root ?
[14:06] <OerHeks> !info mate-desktop
[14:06] <k1l> TronicKey: but that task is done on that server, so ask that servers OS support how to do stuff there.
[14:06] <Guest5485> !info monodevelop
[14:07] <TronicKey> k1l, I am the admin
[14:07] <TronicKey> k1l, but this laptop has ubuntu on it. Same same but different so to say. Just the DE is a little funky in Ubuntu.
[14:07] <k1l> TronicKey: admin or not is not important. if that OS got special setups we dont know since its not ubuntu
[14:08] <TronicKey> k1l, might might something in the man. Silly little tar issues thats all.
[14:11] <otakbeku> how to get certified by ubuntu?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> otakbeku, certified ??? what?  equipment?
[14:12] <sacarlson> otakbeku: certified to do what?
[14:13] <sacarlson> otakbeku: if you want to publish new software I would publish it first on github.com  later try ppa
[14:15] <dp> does anyone know the apt sources.list entry for google's mod_pagespeed repo?
[14:17] <otakbeku> certified as official member?
[14:18] <otakbeku> i knew someone that is doesn't do any software publication for ubuntu but every year he got ubuntu certificate
[14:18] <cfhowlett> otakbeku, |  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[14:20] <Rhapsody> Hiya, I'm trying to use the Ultimate Boot CD to remove GRUB and revert to the Windows bootloader, but I'm getting this error when I select 'HDD' from the menu
[14:20] <Rhapsody> 'not a com32r image'
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, ultimate boot cd is not an ubuntu supported OS   sorry
[14:21] <Rhapsody> cfhowlett: What's the recommended way to remove GRUB, then?
[14:21] <k1l> Rhapsody: easiest way is to boot up a windows cd and let it install the windows bootloader  with fixmbr
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, make an ubuntu USB, boot from USB, navigate to HDD
[14:21] <Rhapsody> kll: I don't have one on hand since I installed Windows 10 via a USB stick, the USB stick I'm now using for a live Ubuntu distro
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, the windows repair tool should re-set the windows bootloader
[14:22] <narg> hi
[14:23] <Rhapsody> cfhowlett: How am I supposed to access this? I can't run an installation CD of Windows because I installed via USB and I only have one USB stick, which I'm currently using.
[14:23] <Rhapsody> I do have an SD card I'm using to try and run UBC, which is 4GB
[14:23] <Rhapsody> So not large enough for Windows
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, you're going to need the windows stick to reset windows.  unetbootin will create one IIRC
[14:24] <Rhapsody> cfhowlett: Unetbootin never works for me, it gives me an error when I try to boot via it, and only via that program
[14:24] <Rhapsody> Is there any way to get to Windows via the GRUB rescue menu?
[14:24] <Rhapsody> Because I am dual booting Windows 10 and Windows 7, so I might be able to do something...
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, yep.  if you can get grub menu, you should be able to manually load windows.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, but I've never done it
[14:25] <Rhapsody> cfhowlett: I can indeed get to the GRUB  rescue menu, that's what it loads to since I deleted my actual Ubuntu install
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[14:28] <Rhapsody> cfhowlett: ...I'll try to work something out, I suppose
[14:28] <narg> gogo powerrangers!
[14:29] <stoogenmeyer> hi, can anybody help please? I have a folder with log files and I'd like to have them all open up in seperate windows in tmux, how would I go about doing this? I tried using tmuxinator but it's acting a bit finicky, and also I'd prefer not to have to hardcode the file names but just give the directory
[14:32] <Z3> Hi. Why some steam games (as XCOM Enemy Unknown) need more RAM memory on Linux than on Windows? Minimum requirements for Windows are: Windows Vista / 2GB RAM and for Linux are:  Ubuntu 14.04 (64 bit) and 4 GB RAM.
[14:33] <narg> hey
[14:33] <Alvic> yep
[14:33] <Alvic> sup ?
[14:33] <narg> nothing
[14:33] <om> How to delete a dir from gui that prompt "permission denied", how to use gui as root user?
[14:34] <k1l> Z3: well, ask steam. maybe somethins of a wrapper needs more ressources
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Z3, ask the steam programmers
[14:34] <om> xubuntu
[14:34] <OerHeks> Z3, ask in #ubuntu-steam or #steamlug
[14:34] <k1l> om: which folder is it? in most cases you should not remove stuff where you need root rights
[14:34] <Z3> k1l cfhowlett OerHeks ok, thank you ! :-)
[14:35] <Rhapsody> I'm planning to install the Windows 10 Preview to my SD card in order to restore the bootloader, so I can fix it that way. In this case, does it matter if I select the x64 or x32 version?
[14:35] <om> It's created by meteor itself
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Rhapsody, question for ##windows ??
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Rhapsody  i'm sure the people in ##windows can tell you how windows works
[14:36] <k1l> Rhapsody: we dont know about the windows bootloader and it needs. pleas see the ##windows support for that
[14:36] <Rhapsody> I'll give it a try, my bad.
[14:38] <om> @kll: This folder created by an app
[14:39] <om> @kll: Is there any way to use GUI as a root user?
[14:39] <OerHeks> om, it is a bad idea to run an app as root when you don't supposed to
[14:39] <stoogenmeyer> om: hi, try starting this gui app from the terminal with sudo
[14:39] <GreenTree> @om start file manager as root
[14:40] <bennypr0fane> hello, I have a problem backing up a root partition with dejadup, because it seems it never had permission to access some directories. I can't find a way to run it as root, so how do people use this to backup their system?
[14:40] <OerHeks> stoogenmeyer, wrong, if it is a gui app, gksudo
[14:40] <om> @greenTree: starting file manager will solve it, wow. didn't think about that
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> om  if you have to ask how to do it, you shouldnt do it at all
[14:40] <k1l> om: again: what is the path?
[14:41] <om> @kll: It's on desktop
[14:42] <k1l> om: so why are there files on your users desktop that are not owned by your user or user group? there seems to be a lot wrong on your system
[14:42] <om> I'm running Xubuntu on vbox, with hosting on win8.1
[14:43] <cfhowlett> bennypr0fane, sudo dejadup = run as root
[14:43] <GreenTree> Error "desktop manager is not active" at startup 14.04
[14:44] <bennypr0fane> cfhowlett, would you happen to know if it'll just overwrite existing files if pointed to the same destination?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> bennypr0fane,  I've no idea ... never used dejadup
[14:45] <om> @Kll: I placed it on desktop
[14:45] <om> How to run file manager always as a root
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> om  not
[14:45] <cfhowlett> om, *always* as root is a bad idea.  BAD.
[14:46] <om> Than for single time>
[14:46] <om> ?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> om, gksu or gksudo  nautilus
[14:46] <sacarlson> bennypr0fane: the only way I can be sure to backup a system in hopes of recovery to full operation is to have the system down and mount the disk and cp -a copy it contents to some other disk
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> om  better get used to the terminal and sudo
[14:46] <om> No option in context menu for run as administrator
[14:46] <OerHeks> !gksudo
[14:47] <sacarlson> bennypr0fane: or rsync  for backup
[14:47] <Romance> what is gk stand for? graphical killer?
[14:48] <bennypr0fane> I tried lucky backup at first, whcih has a way more sensible GUI with options, explanations and all. Except when I wanted to run the first backup it claimned that the destination was not mounted (which it totally was, I made sure manually and it still said no)
[14:48] <cfhowlett> om, monkey dust is spot on.  terminal is less convenient and requires you to actually think before you execute commands - which is precisely what you should be doing when operating as root.
[14:48] <iptable> bennypr0fane, to run something as root, sudo YourCommandHere
[14:48] <iptable> bennypr0fane, also, if you google for "ubuntu backup", the first result that comes up is the official ubuntu backup documentation, which contains software list and their pros and cons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[14:49] <Romance> sudo session will expire if you dont do anything in 5 minutes, how can i change it to be 1 hour?
[14:49] <bennypr0fane> sacarlson so would you say rsync is as safe as the fiorst method you mentioned?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Romance, sudo -i     = 15 minutes IIRC
[14:49] <iptable> bennypr0fane, see link provided.
[14:49] <tracyone> [help!!]http://askubuntu.com/questions/538248/freenfsnfs-server-for-win32-mount-in-ubuntu-14-04-access-deny
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Romance, also ... with great power ...
[14:49] <om> So if i wanted to simply delete some files immediately, i will have to wait and think and than type cmd :(
[14:49] <Romance> cfhowlett: what ... ?
[14:50] <bennypr0fane> iptable, yes, and the first solution suggested is dejadup. And it has no documentation of its own
[14:50] <sacarlson> bennypr0fane: rsync as safe as cp -a ?  ya it works fine and can be used to move back in time. rsync is cool
[14:50] <jpds> cfhowlett: No, that's forever.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> om, that's usually the recommended procedure
[14:50] <om> shift + delete on windows do well
[14:50] <cfhowlett> jpds, got it. thanks.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> rom1504_, sudo -i         will authorize root until you explicitly revoke
[14:51] <r3almode> morning #ubuntu
[14:51] <GreenTree> @om gksudo <NAME OF FileManager>
[14:51]  * r3almode nods ~ </sip>
[14:51] <Aigeano> hello guys
[14:51] <jpds> Romance: man sudoers / timestamp_timeout
[14:51] <sacarlson> bennypr0fane: I normaly setup cron jobs that run rsync on valuable data like /home
[14:51] <iptable> bennypr0fane, according to the docs, dejadup is a good bet if you need a GUI to do it.
[14:51] <iptable> bennypr0fane, in terminal, sudo dejadup to run as root
[14:51] <iptable> Romance, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183418
[14:51] <iptable> Romance, you can also set sudo for your user to never ask for password, although it's not safe
[14:51] <om> I'm sure there is any command like netstat administrator(windows) that turn every gui tool run as root
[14:51] <bennypr0fane> I know one important con for dejadup already: it's dumb. sometimes Ubuntu has the most useless stuff for default solution. done bitching now
[14:51] <Aigeano> can anyone help me???
[14:51] <om> gksudo is not installed
[14:52] <jpds> iptable: :o
[14:52] <bennypr0fane> iptable, thanks
[14:52] <iptable> bennypr0fane, do you need documentation? "man dejadup" provides it
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !help | Aigeano,
[14:52] <om> @greentree
[14:52] <r3almode> Aigeano,   you imght make certian you have the graphical version of sudo  by doing  <  sudo apt-get install gksudo>   or should that already be installed  /wonders
[14:52] <bennypr0fane> iptabel i looked at the docu. e.g. it doesn't indicate the location of log files
[14:53] <GreenTree> @om then try sudo <Name of FILEMANAGER>
[14:53] <cfhowlett> r3almode, I don't have gksudo either.  I think it's no longer installed by default
[14:53] <bennypr0fane> also: ~$ man dejadup
[14:53] <bennypr0fane> No manual entry for dejadup :-)
[14:53] <Aigeano> Actually m having problem after upgrading my ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS
[14:53] <iptable> bennypr0fane, dejadup doesn't save logs anywhere, hence it's not mentioned
[14:53] <r3almode> I used to know where my system's log files were located.... and then I installed Samhain....   now I don't even know where they are
[14:53] <r3almode> ^_^
[14:54] <Aigeano> My login screen just blinks for sometime before it asks for password and this has been having ever since i upgraded..
[14:54] <bennypr0fane> right... error messages are just discarded. I said it's dumb ^_^
[14:54] <GreenTree> I get a Error "desktop manager is not active" at startup 14.04
[14:54] <bennypr0fane> iptables thanks for your help though
[14:54] <iptable> bennypr0fane, the link with list I provided, if you visit it, you will note, has a lot more tools
[14:54] <cfhowlett> Aigeano, so you can't login anymore?  did you ever manage to login to 14.04?
[14:54] <om> @GreenTree: how to find the name of File Manager, i'm on Xubuntu\
[14:55] <Rhapsody> I want to merge 50GB of unallocated space into another partition in gparted, but the unallocated space is above the partition that I want to merge it into. To my understanding, this means that I can't merge them unless the partition is above the unallocated space.
[14:55] <Rhapsody> What can I do?
[14:55] <iptable> bennypr0fane, also it mentions that dejadup is just a frontend for duplicity (a text tool). So it doesn't log by itself.
[14:55] <om> @greenTree it says only File Manager
[14:55] <r3almode> I do not understand why gksudo would not be installed by default....  If I am not mistaken it's the official method for super-user do
[14:55] <Aigeano> yes, eventually i can login after seeing alot of blinking
[14:55] <Rhapsody> r3almode: It wasn't installed by default for me either, actually
[14:56] <iptable> bennypr0fane, grsync is a graphical rsync utility. rsync is very good for backups. Duplicity as well.
[14:56] <bennypr0fane> i see. looking at it more, I just thought maybe the first solution, also being Ubuntu's default, should be easy to handle and work well etc. checking out rsync now
[14:56] <Aigeano> but then after some time my system crases and my consoles get jammed or something and nothing responds
[14:56] <cfhowlett> r3almode, because super user do *should* be done with terminal.
[14:56] <r3almode> and apparently for a while there , misconceptions related to the use of sudo <anything> led to unstable computers
[14:56] <r3almode> cfhowlett,  copy that
[14:56] <om> Somehow i have managed to delete folder from terminal using rm -rf foldername, still hard from  UI
[14:56] <bennypr0fane> *the first solution in the list on Ubuntu help pages
[14:56] <cfhowlett> Aigeano, this was a direct upgrade, not a 14.04 clean install, yes?
[14:57] <GreenTree> @om try sudo thunar
[14:57] <r3almode> if you run sudo nautilus for instance... you are going to end up with root owning some of the temp files generated during that nautilus session
[14:57] <iptable> bennypr0fane, it's just the simpliest. in linux you have a choice. all tools are free. you test which one suits you and use that.
[14:57] <Aigeano> yes ,
[14:57] <r3almode> if you instead use gksudo  that will happen less often
[14:57] <iptable> always use gksudo with GUI tools. use sudo with text tools
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Aigeano, no errors and it actually does login ... not sure where to take this but: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:58] <r3almode> iptable, copy that
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> om  learning something new can be hard and frustrating, make sure you have backups
[14:58] <sacarlson> bennypr0fane: what I use that uses rsync is rdiff-back  that is cool if you want to explore the past with a file browser you can mount all the history with rdiff-backup-fs /tmp/backup_to_view /mnt/backup_daily/etc
[14:58] <iptable> gksudo does some interesting X session management to NOT compromise security using those tools as root.
[14:58] <bennypr0fane> iptable,  I must have forgotten that late last night. Why did you just tell me to start a graphical tool with sudo?
[14:58] <iptable> bennypr0fane, which one? dejadup?
[14:58] <Aigeano> you sure that will help
[14:58] <bennypr0fane> iptable, yes
[14:59] <om> @GreenTree @MonkeyDust: Yep it works :)
[14:59] <iptable> bennypr0fane, quite simply I didn't realise that it was a GUI tool until I looked it up later
[14:59] <om> thunar
[14:59] <cfhowlett> Aigeano, it won't hurt to bring your packages to current release: 14.04.1
[14:59] <r3almode> pretty much anything with a gk in that guy is graphical interface....
[14:59] <iptable> bennypr0fane, that would be my fault. Can't know all the tools. having said that, a home user's backup utility is hardly a security concern ;)
[14:59] <GreenTree> @om did that work
[14:59] <r3almode> or perhaps I am the victim of a bizarre joke
[14:59] <r3almode> ;)
[14:59] <bennypr0fane> iptable, security concern?
[15:00] <Aigeano> but what if my system crases in between the update??
[15:00] <om> @GreenTree: Yes sudo thunar, runs the file manager in root, and i can now delete folder from GUI, Weeee!
[15:00] <cfhowlett> Aigeano, so you *never* update ... ?
[15:00] <r3almode> :D
[15:00] <skyfall> can anyone help me with installing windows software on ubuntu  ?\
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !wine | skyfall,
[15:01] <skyfall> thank you !
[15:01] <GreenTree> I get a Error "desktop manager is not active" at startup 14.04
[15:01] <r3almode> skyfall,  what you trying to run?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> i use windows in vbox for windows software
[15:01] <skyfall> i need to run skype
[15:01] <Aigeano> no i kept my my system upto date till i had 12.04 after the upgrade i dnt know the status of the packages
[15:01] <oaulakh> how to make a share on network on ubuntu
[15:01] <iptable> bennypr0fane, if you run online GUI tools using sudo, there are some X session (GUI) compromises that otherwise gksudo secures
[15:01] <cfhowlett> skyfall, skype is available for linux!@
[15:01] <r3almode> thats a very resource intensive sip phone sir :)
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !skype | skyfall
[15:02] <bad63r> hellow, i have a problem with minimize animation, when I minimize windows they become black... i tried all drivers and surf on a net but no answer found, any help?
[15:02] <sacarlson> skyfall: skype has a linux version
[15:02] <r3almode> hey... somebody had to tell me at some point
[15:02] <iptable> skyfall, install linux version of skype. works well with everything.
[15:02] <skyfall> im using ubuntu 14.04 LTS. .i went to the official site of skype but im unable to find the exact version
[15:02] <bennypr0fane> iptable, online, as in over the network you mean?
[15:02] <om> Greentree, MonkeyDust, kll: Thanks Guys
[15:02] <iptable> skyfall, download and install 12.04 multiarch version
[15:02] <cfhowlett> skyfall, use the ubuntu software center to install
[15:03] <iptable> skyfall, full instruction: download 12.04 multiarch deb. go to command prompt and run: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/your/skype.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[15:03] <skyfall> alright. letme have a try on that one
[15:03] <sacarlson> I did have to use wine to get the windows version of Line to run.  it works ok in text chat mode
[15:03] <Aigeano> what are the chances that my packages are upto date ,then any alternative solution  to my problem??
[15:03] <skyfall> thank y'all for your valuable information
[15:03] <bennypr0fane> I have experienced some problems running graphical tool through ssh -X with sudo whc ih were solved by using gksudo. Not security stuff but just plain non-starter
[15:03] <iptable> bennypr0fane, yes. shared workstations, tools that need internet connectivity, stuff like that.
[15:04] <bennypr0fane> iptable, got it
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> Aigeano  what problem was that?
[15:04] <r3almode> I was under the impression I would be receiving a penguin for switching over to Linux
[15:04] <iptable> bennypr0fane, that's be3cause sudo tries to run them as root, and root doesn't forward X, only your user has ssh X forwarding setup. gksudo works a bit different.
[15:04] <skyfall> i have one more issue with my laptop. My battery is getting drained so fast while using ubuntu. .
[15:05] <iptable> bennypr0fane, gksudo will run the app as root but under YOUR X user session from what I understand
[15:05] <skyfall> im having Nvidia Geforce 520mx
[15:05] <oaulakh> how to make a share on network on ubuntu, previously i was using windows and when i move to ubuntu. after installing ubuntu i make one folder share and thenset my default ip <IP_ADDRESS> as i was using it in windows but it did not show my share on my other devices or you can say not working properply. even when i try to set my wifi ip to something <IP_ADDRESS>,its simply stop internet connection, and my question how to make a working share and also my internet sh
[15:05] <oaulakh> ould work after these setting
[15:05] <iptable> skyfall, did you install nvidia proprietary drivers using the restricted (or additional) drivers section of software center?
[15:05] <iptable> skyfall, if not, do it.
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> r3almode  no, but you do get a virus for switching over to windows
[15:05] <skyfall> no .can you briefly tell me how to do it  iptable
[15:06] <Aigeano> Actually i upgraded my sysytem from 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS and ever since that m having this blinking problem on my ogin screen and after loging in it crases with consoles getting unresponsive
[15:06] <r3almode> is there a way to install the kali-linux tools to an Ubuntu system?
[15:06] <iptable> skyfall, go to ubuntu software centre, click on the drviers tab, choose nvidia driver, click install
[15:06] <iptable> skyfall, more or less. I use linux mint atm so that's from memory
[15:06] <oaulakh> how to make a share on network on ubuntu, previously i was using windows and when i move to ubuntu. after installing ubuntu i make one folder share and thenset my default ip <IP_ADDRESS> as i was using it in windows but it did not show my share on my other devices or you can say not working properply. even when i try to set my wifi ip to something <IP_ADDRESS>,its simply stop internet connection, and my question how to make a working share and also my internet sh
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !kali | r3almode, kali isn't supported here.
[15:06] <oaulakh> ould work after these setting
[15:06] <ghutzriop> hi, I have a strange keyboard problem. on the bottom left is a ctrl key and right of it a fn key. on windows it behaved correctly, but kubuntu 14.10 switched them
[15:06] <bad63r>  hellow, i have a problem with minimize animation, when I minimize windows they become black... i tried all drivers and surf on a net but no answer found, any help?
[15:07] <oaulakh> how to make a share on network on ubuntu, previously i was using windows and when i move to ubuntu. after installing ubuntu i make one folder share and thenset my default ip <IP_ADDRESS> as i was using it in windows but it did not show my share on my other devices or you can say not working properply. even when i try to set my wifi ip to something <IP_ADDRESS>,its simply stop internet connection, and my question how to make a working share and also my internet
[15:07] <oaulakh>      should work after these setting
[15:07] <iptable> skyfall, or something likethat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=show&redirect=RestrictedDrivers%2FNVIDIA
[15:07] <daftykins> !repeat | oaulakh
[15:07] <r3almode> MonkeyDust,  but for being cheeky and trying to buck on 'em the hackers will just use persistent firmware based hypervisor virtualization rootkits :D
[15:07] <oaulakh> sorry for repeat
[15:07] <cfhowlett> ghutzriop, same happened to me ... Dell laptop.   You can rebind the key settings or live with it.
[15:07] <sacarlson> oaulakh: seems it takes time for the shared samba files to be visible on the network.  you can connect with a windows box to the ip direct to see the files without waiting for them to be shown on the localnet
[15:07] <dbugger> Hi guys. When I try to shutdown, the systems gets stuck on this message: "unregistered_netdevice: waiting for vboxnet2 to become free. Usage count = 1". I have to halt manually the vagrant boxes if I want to shutdown succesfully
[15:07] <ghutzriop> cfhowlett: and where can I rebind them?
[15:08] <bennypr0fane> oaulakh, this is a cool tutaorial and worked for me
[15:08] <bennypr0fane> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wUfzdiE4m8
[15:08] <abbabbo> +i
[15:08] <Aigeano> MonkeyDust ,you there???
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !keybinding | ghutzriop,
[15:08] <oaulakh> ok thanks
[15:08] <skyfall> iptable, how can i know the exact package to be downloaded ?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> Aigeano  yes?
[15:09] <Aigeano> any solution to my problem ,on your side??
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> Aigeano  remind me... what problem?
[15:09] <t1608> how can I disable ssh without root?
[15:09] <Aigeano>  Actually i upgraded my sysytem from 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS and ever since that m having this blinking problem on my ogin screen and after loging in it crases with consoles getting unresponsive.
[15:09] <bennypr0fane> oaulakh, note though that if you do it exactly like this, you won't have write access to that share from the network (which the whole point of "securing" it) - just a heads up because I believe that's not how it works in Windows
[15:09] <skyfall> i tried switching off my nvidia graphics using bumblebee
[15:10] <yocapybara> hey guys - the boot-repair graphical tool - is there a text only command line tool that accomplishes the same thing?
[15:10] <iptable> skyfall, what do you mean? for skype?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> Aigeano  i had plenty issues too, with 14.04, no solution found, forced me back to 12.04, so i'm no help
[15:10] <oaulakh> i want both write and read rights
[15:10] <skyfall> no. not for skype
[15:10] <sacarlson> t1608: maybe if you have control of the gateway you could filter port 22 so no access to ssh at least from outside localnet
[15:11] <oaulakh> which means permission to 766
[15:11] <Aigeano> thanks anyway for hearing it out.
[15:11] <t1608> how can I disable someone sshing into my user account without root?
[15:11] <skyfall> i am clear about the steps you told me about the skype
[15:11] <oaulakh> i will change these after i get this done properly :)
[15:11] <iptable> skyfall, for nvidia drivers from command line, you can: sudo apt-get install linux-headers build-essential; sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[15:11] <t1608> how can I disable someone sshing into my user account without root? Possibly something in .bashrc?
[15:12] <skyfall> im having another graphics problem . .i tried reading FAQ's and ended up switching off my additional graphics memory
[15:12] <iptable> skyfall, for downloads, easy. if ubuntu 14.04 version is there, go for it. if not, go for the latest available
[15:12] <sacarlson> t1608: otherwise ssh is run as root and there is no way that I know that you could stop it as a none root user on that system
[15:12] <skyfall> i used bumblebee
[15:12] <iptable> t1608, you want to enable root-only ssh? security-wise, people normally do it the other way around
[15:12] <t1608> sacarlson: I don't want to kill all ssh, I just want to stop ssh logins with my non root username
[15:13] <skyfall> all i need to know whether is it okay to use it ?
[15:13] <skyfall> i mean bumblebee
[15:13] <t1608> iptable: I want to stop ssh logins to a user account (but I don't have root to change the ssh config)
[15:13] <sacarlson> t1608: so do you have control of the gateway?
[15:13] <iptable> t1608, you want to reconfigure ssh without root access on that box?
[15:13] <t1608> sacarlson: no, I don't want to block all ssh, just logins to a specific user
[15:14] <t1608> iptable: yes
[15:14] <iptable> t1608, impossible
[15:14] <t1608> iptable: I disagree
[15:14] <iptable> t1608, hence linux is SECURE. you need root to change ssh configuration.
[15:14] <t1608> iptable: no you don't
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> t1608  ask someone who has root access
[15:14] <iptable> t1608, if you have access to the USER you want to ban ssh for, then you could do it (if you want to lock yourself out)
[15:15] <skyfall> iptable, are you there ?
[15:15] <iptable> skyfall, do NOT use bumblebee. it's old and buggy. use nvidia-prime
[15:15] <t1608> iptable: yes I want to lock myself out of ssh but not logging in manually on the machine
[15:15] <sacarlson> t1608: oh a spacific user that you have the password for?  even with that I'm not sure how I would attempt it.  maybe setup a local alias for ssh so that user when they try to run ssh would run null
[15:15] <skyfall> ok. .
[15:15] <iptable> t1608, well, changing shell to lockout completely would work, but you only want to stop ssh for yourself...
[15:16] <javnut> I need to install a bin, how do I do it?
[15:17] <iptable> t1608, the only way to do that with your own account would be to code this into .bashrc. check if the login is a tty or a virtual terminal from ssh and if it's from ssh, terminate. that is NOT foul-proof though and can be circumvented
[15:17] <t1608> iptable: that's the sort of thing I'm thinking of
[15:17] <xcveaqwzx-> i have successed drop data packet use iptables. this is my result: pkts=54,bytes=3240,target=DROP,prot=all,opt=---,in=*,out=* source=<IP_ADDRESS>/0,destination=(xx.xx.x.x/x). how to view/see data packet ?
[15:17] <iptable> t1608, the problem is YOU as a USER has no access to ssh configs. by the time your user session is initialised, ssh has already happened. without root access and ssh reconfiguration it cannot be done.
[15:18] <t1608> iptable: that way seems like a hack though, I was looking for the correct way
[15:18] <t1608> iptable: I thought I could put something in .ssh in my home dir or something
[15:18] <skyfall> iptable , i have another question too.. is there any need to install internet security or antivirus application in ubuntu  ?? am i prone to such attacks ? sorry for asking this as i am new to ubuntu. .
[15:18] <iptable> t1608, the bash configuration with .bashrc is a simple hack option that can be easily gotten around
[15:18] <cfhowlett> !virus | skyfall
[15:18] <iptable> t1608, there is NOT correct solution for that. simple as that. get root access to do that
[15:18] <xcveaqwzx-> *i have successed drop data packet use iptables. this is my result: pkts=54,bytes=3240,target=DROP,prot=all,opt=---,in=*,out=* source=<IP_ADDRESS>/0,destination=(xx.xx.x.x/x). how to view/see text in data packet?
[15:19] <skyfall> Thank you iptable
[15:19] <xcveaqwzx-> that i mean how to see "bytes=3240"?
[15:19] <diffis> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.1 with Unity. I'd like to see the contents of /home/<my_username>/Desktop folder on my desktop. But how to do that?
[15:19] <iptable> t1608, you can only disable pubkey auth via .ssh
[15:19] <iptable> by screwing up the permissions
[15:19] <cfhowlett> skyfall, I enabled my firewall.  I dist-upgrade regularly.  No viruses in the past 6 years
[15:20] <cfhowlett> skyfall, of couurse, YMMV
[15:20] <skyfall> how to turn on the firewall cfhowlett ?
[15:20] <hyde> a stupid question: how can I see what name server is really in use? I see nslookup say server is <IP_ADDRESS>...
[15:20] <iptable> xcveaqwzx-, tcpdump with correct parameters (man tcpdump for more info)
[15:20] <cfhowlett> !firewall | skyfall
[15:20] <xcveaqwzx-> iptable, thx.
[15:21] <iptable> hyde, that's a VERY GOOD question.
[15:21] <iptable> hyde, nmcli dev list iface <interfacename> | grep IP4
[15:22] <iptable> hyde, nmcli dev list iface <interfacename> | grep -P "IP4\.DNS"
[15:23] <akhil> hey frnds
[15:23] <akhil> any c++ coder here
[15:23] <akhil> any c++ coder here
[15:23] <iptable> skyfall, no, no AV. no internet security. firewall - can do.
[15:23] <sacarlson> akhil: some but not for some time
[15:23] <sacarlson> akhil: I prefer ruby
[15:24] <iptable> akhil, yes and yes. but wrong channel
[15:24] <hyde> iptable: thanks!
[15:24] <daftykins> akhil: find a relevant channel please.
[15:24] <akhil> i jst want to know how graphic programs are coded in linux
[15:24] <skyfall> iptable, is the firewall enabled by default ?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> skyfall, nope.
[15:24] <iptable> skyfall, Dunno. check. it's not a requirement
[15:24] <iptable> oh
[15:24] <skyfall> how can i check whether it's on ?
[15:24] <hyde> iptable: (also for nmcli, I didn't know such a thing existed...)
[15:24] <skyfall> i want to wnable it
[15:24] <iptable> skyfall, I believe the control center has the option
[15:24] <akhil> can any one suggest a channel
[15:24] <cfhowlett> skyfall, man ufw will tell you all about firewall
[15:24] <iptable> hyde, "Network Manager CLI" ;)
[15:24] <hyde> yep
[15:25] <iptable> akhil, tried ##c ?
[15:25] <iptable> akhil, also, ##c++
[15:25] <akhil> how to change channel here
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> /join ##c++
[15:27] <akhil> hellow i cant join in
[15:27] <hyde> iptable: do you know if I can renew DHCP lease with nmcli somehow?
[15:28] <iptable> hyde, you can. how, I dunno
[15:28] <hyde> (or any other way, with NM in use)
[15:28] <hyde> ok, ty
[15:28] <iptable> hyde, dhclient does that
[15:28] <iptable> hyde, sudo dhclient -r; sudo dhclient
[15:29] <iptable> hyde, apparently that's the best way. nmcli would have to down/up the interface
[15:30] <OerHeks> akhil, the message should give you a clue
[15:30]  * iptable goes to get tea
[15:30] <OerHeks> !register
[15:30] <etzer> hello all
[15:30] <etzer> ?
[15:30] <iptable> ?!?
[15:31] <etzer> after i installed ubuntu 14.04 i don't see the option to choose windows or ubuntu anymore. ubuntu is load automaticly
[15:32] <OerHeks> etzer, hold shift @ boot
[15:32] <etzer> hold the shift key while booting?
[15:45] <tranjeeshan> Hi! What is the best desktop environment for managing  large number of opened files and documents? I find Unity  great in that aspect. I can search find the opened file  with "Alt"
[15:45] <eikood> mate
[15:45] <tranjeeshan>  Is any other DE better than Unity in that aspect?
[15:45] <eikood> try mate - its wonderful :)
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> tranjeeshan: unity isnt a DE, its a shell for Gnome
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> tranjeeshan: you can use gnome do in any desktop and search for files
[15:46] <tranjeeshan> @eikood, how to search specific file from large pile of files in MATE?
[15:47] <OerHeks> ctrl F = find
[15:50] <UseTh3S0urce> Is there a seperate channel for registered users lol
[15:50] <UseTh3S0urce> says I am in un-regged
[15:50] <UseTh3S0urce> *Ubuntu-unregged
[15:51] <irth> UseTh3S0urce: nah
[15:51] <irth> UseTh3S0urce: you are in #ubuntu
[15:51] <irth> UseTh3S0urce: and #ubuntu have flag "+f #ubuntu-unregged"
[15:52] <compdoc> is your nick registered? that error is not about ubuntu
[15:52] <irth> UseTh3S0urce: which mean "redirect unregistered users to ubuntu-unregged"
[15:52] <UseTh3S0urce> I think I am registered lol
[15:52] <UseTh3S0urce> I am identified
[15:52] <irth> compdoc: he is not in #ubuntu-unregged
[15:53] <irth> compdoc: everything is fine :P
[15:53] <compdoc> whew - I was worried
[15:53] <compdoc> dont want to break the internet
[15:54] <iptable> don't type google into google then
[15:54] <iptable> it WILL break the internet
[15:54] <compdoc> heh
[16:08] <tranjeeshan>  Is any other DE better than Unity in that aspect?
[16:08] <lostatwork> tranjeeshan: no Unitys is the one true way
[16:08] <javnut> I need to install a bin
[16:08] <javnut> I set it as an executable
[16:08] <javnut> but double clicking it only tries to open it as an archive
[16:08] <e> ce nessuno
[16:08] <tranjeeshan> Which DE is better for easy searching files/documents from a large pile of opened files?
[16:10] <tranjeeshan> I find Unity great in that aspect. Is there any other DE which might be better in this aspect?
[16:10] <bmacnaughton> I installed 14.04 mini (37MB version of Ubuntu that provides console login only). How can I use that to install the full 14.04.1 version of Ubuntu? My MB won't boot from DVD or USB so I used the boot that fit on a CD. Any links?
[16:10] <vitimiti> Hi
[16:11] <OerHeks> tranjeeshan, not that i know of, the basis is the same.
[16:12] <OerHeks> bmacnaughton, you will get a choice, install ubuntu-desktop
[16:12] <tranjeeshan> I want to search for a particular file from a group of files easily and instantly
[16:13] <daftykins> tranjeeshan: searching files on disk? i fail to see how this would be better or worse with a given DE
[16:13] <tranjeeshan> No.
[16:14] <tranjeeshan> Say, I have 10/15 opened PDFs, files, folders etc.
[16:14] <bmacnaughton> OerHeks - thanks. I chose that option. Is there someway to switch to the desktop? I tried sudo service lightdm start, but am stuck in single user mode.
[16:14] <tranjeeshan> now I want to search open a particular file from these opened files
[16:15] <SchrodingersScat> tranjeeshan: wmctrl -l -G will list windows and stuff, can probably grep through that for great victory
[16:15] <OerHeks> bmacnaughton, ctrl alt F7
[16:15] <tranjeeshan> In Unity I can just press Alt and search for the file by typing it's name
[16:16] <daftykins> tranjeeshan: i think you should just try others and experiment for yourself, your use case sounds odd to me
[16:16] <bmacnaughton> at the console? I tried, no reax. but you're saying that choosing ubuntu desktop should have installed desktop and made it the default for booting?
[16:17] <OerHeks> bmacnaughton, did you boot after install?
[16:17] <bmacnaughton> yes, that's how I ended up in single user mode.
[16:17] <tranjeeshan> daftykins, how would you search a particular PDF easily from a large pile of opened files?
[16:18] <OerHeks> bmacnaughton, then i have no clue :-(
[16:18] <bmacnaughton> OerHeks, thanks for your help anyway. Neither do I.