[03:15] <psusi> Makura, try running memtest86 for an hour or two
[03:15] <pragun> i have an ati radeon x600xt and i had everything installed fine but suddenly after rebooting the whole graphics business pooped out on me. now glxgears says 194 fps instead of 4,000~ fps. any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:16] <cafuego> psusi: I second that opinion
[03:16] <Makura> psusi: Alright, I will
[03:16] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, make-jpkg actually completed without fakeroot?
[03:16] <Makura> psusi: Does memtest86 come default or do I have to go download it?
[03:16] <psusi> Makura, you have to boot into it... it's on the cd
[03:17] <Makura> psusi: Sorry, newbie to Linux. =\
[03:17] <NegativeSpace> nickrud No, I skipped that entire line, went on to sudo dpkg -i sun*deb, which worked fine.
[03:18] <psusi> Makura, it doesn't really have anythign to do with Linux, it's just a handy dandy memory test utility that ubuntu includes on the cd because it's so handy
[03:18] <pragun> could there be something wrong with opengl? between the messups i had downloaded pong2 and xscorch
[03:18] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, then, if that deb was good, do sudo update-alternatives --config java, it should be the third or fourth option
[03:18] <pragun> that was before i restarted. however, before that i had had ubuntu install some updates but hadnt restarted yet
[03:18] <Makura> psusi: Still, I didn't know about it.  Does it matter what CD? Does it have to be the LiveCD?
[03:19] <psusi> Makura, I believe it is on the setup cd as well
[03:19] <Makura> psusi: Okay, how would I boot to it?
[03:19] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Yeah I did that, no problem. Load up SciTE and it falls over. Eclipse still breaks when I try to create a new project, too.
[03:19] <psusi> actually... it is installed to your hard drive by default too
[03:19] <moonlite> isn't it also in the gru menu of a default installation?
[03:19] <moonlite> grub menu
[03:19] <psusi> Makura, reboot your computer and at the grub prompt, hit escape... last item on the menu should be memtest86
[03:19] <Makura> psusi: Thanks. =]
[03:20] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, then, please paste update-alternatives --list java to a paste bin
[03:20] <pragun> okay, so its either opengl or ati drivers that have messed up. can anyone at all help me?
[03:21] <MadPirateBippy> Hey guys, I'm lost again. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43128
[03:21] <NegativeSpace> nickrud You want me to paste the results of update-alternatives?
[03:21] <MadPirateBippy> That's my monitor- what to I choose when configuring my xserver?
[03:21] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, that will give me an overview of your java environment
[03:21] <pragun> firegl control doesnt recognize my x600xt anymore
[03:22] <pragun> it just says "unknown" instead
[03:22] <jonolson> brb
[03:22] <pragun> hello?
[03:23] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay, I have: /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[03:23] <NegativeSpace> ; /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java and /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[03:23] <MadPirateBippy> n/m, I got it
[03:23] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, if you choose 3 (sun), you should be good to go (if the deb you installed was good)
[03:23] <Coag> where is a site I can browse some desktop widgets?
[03:23] <Coag> I'm using compiz or metacity
[03:24] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Heh, I did. Maybe SciTE and Eclipse are messed up.
[03:25] <lampshade> how can I check to see if dma is currently enabled on drives?
[03:25] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, Maybe. Depends on how you installed everything, before you got java hooked into ubuntu.
[03:25] <lampshade> I believe it is with hdparm but I don't know what to look for, my output doesn't say yes or no
[03:27] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Well I've reinstalled Eclipse a few times now, before and after installing Java and the errors are always the same. As for SciTE, I can't seem to even setup the JDK.
[03:27] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, you've installed the jre, not the sdk --> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[03:28] <Managu> lampshade: sudo hdparm <drive name>
[03:28] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Yeah it's weird, I did download and, well, I THOUGH I'd installed the JDK, but it's not there. I definitely downloaded the JDK, and followed Sun's installation instructions.
[03:28] <Staz>  Hey I get "A disk read error occurred" when I choose WINXP from GRUB :(
[03:28] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, I don't write java (or anything) I missed that
[03:28] <NegativeSpace> thought*
[03:28] <Staz> Any ideas how to fix it>
[03:28] <lampshade> Managu, yeah I know but what should it say.  Mine doesn't say DMA enabled or DMA not enabled.   My machine always ran great :)
[03:29] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, in the dir where the sun sdk is,    fakeroot make-jpkg <sunfile> && dpkg -i <sunsdk>.deb
[03:30] <lampshade> hmmm mine doesn't say anything like that
[03:30] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay I'll give that a go.
[03:30] <MadPirateBippy> Okay, that didn't work.
[03:30] <edude05> Hi everyone
[03:30] <edude05> I need some help building NDIS
[03:30] <MadPirateBippy> My x server is now disabled.
[03:30] <ArthurB> Hi, I have a bug with apt-build in dapper, typing "apt-build --install blah" (wrong syntax intended) produces a segfault
[03:31] <pinpoint> does root exist in ubuntu
[03:31] <Hobbsee> !tell pinpoint about root
[03:31] <pinpoint> or is sudo just a sub
[03:31] <ArthurB> anyone can confirm ?
[03:31] <Managu> pinpoint: yes, but by default, there is no password.  Sudo is the preferred method for doing stuff
[03:32] <Xenguy> pinpoint: sudo -i (and sudo -s) is useful
[03:32] <Managu> ArthurB: maybe join #ubuntu+1 for Dapper discussions?
[03:32] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, I'm assuming you already have java-package installed
[03:33] <pinpoint> thx
[03:33] <NegativeSpace> nickrud You know, I'm assuming I do, too. But I don't know.
[03:33] <edude05> I'm on 5.04 and and a PPC arch and I have the kerne source installed
[03:33] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, if you have make-jpkg, you do. doh
[03:33] <Managu> edude05: ndiswrapper?
[03:34] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Boy do I fell embarrassed.
[03:34] <edude05> Managu, Yeah
[03:34] <NegativeSpace> feel*
[03:34] <nickrud> MadPirateBippy, the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log has the best info on your failed X
[03:34] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, all good?
[03:34] <Managu> edude05: presuming that you've read the standard bit on it.  What's the trouble?
[03:34] <NegativeSpace> nickrud I don't have it. How can I acqure it?
[03:34] <edude05> hold on Ill gice you th error
[03:34] <NegativeSpace> acquire*
[03:35] <nickrud> sudo aptitude install java-package
[03:35] <] BreliC[> anyone here using a WinTv PVR150 with IVTV drivers?
[03:35] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, haven't really been following along, eh ;p
[03:35] <NegativeSpace> Couldn't find any package matching "java-package".   Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[03:36] <edude05> Are the last cople of lines
[03:36] <NegativeSpace> Apologies.
[03:36] <edude05> Sry....
[03:36] <daneturner> NegativeSpace: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/java-package
[03:36] <yakk> I've got dapper crashing for me
[03:37] <yakk> :(
[03:37] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, actually, that leads me to believe you should have a working java
[03:37] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, what does java -version in a terminal tell you
[03:37] <Managu> edude05: why don't you pastebin all the errors?
[03:37] <edude05> Good idea
[03:38] <NegativeSpace> nickrud 1.5.0_05
[03:38] <NegativeSpace> nickrud It looks like it's there.
[03:39] <NegativeSpace> nickrud But that's the JVM and JRE, dunno about SDK.
[03:39] <NegativeSpace> JDK*
[03:39] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, um, I needed to install a sun java deb real quick :)
[03:39] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Heh. I appreciate your help dude.
[03:40] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, yeah, that's right. I'd remove all the java stuff you installed that didn't come from ubuntu, and start from scratch
[03:40] <edude05> Managu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9988
[03:40] <NegativeSpace> nickrud How would I go about doing that?
[03:41] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, I wouldn't have a clue, how did you install it?
[03:41] <Managu> edude05: my first instinct is: are you compiling this on an Intel or AMD based PC?
[03:41] <NegativeSpace> nickrud I should probably say that I only installed Linux earlier today for the first time.
[03:41] <edude05> Managu, PPc
[03:41] <edude05> AKA mac
[03:41] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, no problem. I had that day once too
[03:41] <kditty> i have a newb question here, really newbie ;]  i downloaded thunderbird, and decompressed it to my temp folder and i cant figure out how to install it
[03:42] <Managu> edude05: yeah, see, ndiswrapper is only for x86 based machines
[03:42] <edude05> ...
[03:42] <NegativeSpace> nickrud You know, I've downloaded the JRE about four times and installed it at least three different ways, including changing global variables and stuff, I justdon't know how to do anything.
[03:42] <edude05> Oh yeah.... because the drivers are X86'd aren't they
[03:42] <edude05> FSCK
[03:42] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Egad.
[03:43] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, that's what ubuntu is for. It is supposed to make all that global variable stuff go away, cuz it manages it for you
[03:43] <Managu> kditty: happen to recall the filename extension of what you downloaded?
[03:43] <NegativeSpace> nickrud That makes me wonder what the hell I was doing earlier.
[03:43] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, operant training :)
[03:43] <kditty> thunderbird-1.5.tar.gz
[03:44] <AngryElf> ubuntu isn't "seeing" my ipod.......in the past it's automatically recognized it when i plug it in
[03:44] <NegativeSpace> nickrud I think I broke Ubuntu.
[03:44] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Heh.
[03:44] <AngryElf> what should i do?
[03:44] <kditty> managu, i think mozilla-installer-bin is the file i need to use to run the install, am i wrong?
[03:44] <edude05> Managu, Is ther anything I can do to get my DWL-G122 to wokr
[03:44] <MadPirateBippy> I have a question. I'm configuring my xserver, I'm at the blue screen bits.
[03:45] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, I cannot begin to count the times I reinstalled linux my first few months :) You'll have it easy, you will be able to count
[03:45] <MadPirateBippy> How do I select a * on the option I want?
[03:45] <kditty> its in my tmp folder, i wasnt sure where to save or extract files to
[03:45] <Managu> kditty, couple of thoughts.  First, Ubuntu probably has Thunderbird packaged, and unless you've got a reason to use the newest version, you'd probably be better off with the package
[03:45] <nalioth> MadPirateBippy: space bar
[03:45] <Xenguy> !tell kditty about apt-get
[03:45] <daneturner> AngryElf: lspci at command line with iPod plugged in
[03:45] <Managu> edude05: I really don't really know anything about macs, but my guess is that you're out of luck =(
[03:45] <NegativeSpace> nickrud I think I may be reinstalling tomorrow. Heh heh.
[03:45] <jerrod> how can I share an .avi file from an ubuntu laptop to a windows xp desktop?
[03:46] <AngryElf> daneturner, it sees my ieee controler but not the ipod
[03:46] <heyjoe2> can anyone help me-my sound juicer application isnt working
[03:46] <Zenethian> Urr, is there a reason why Alt-Fx or Control-Alt-Fx isn't changing virtual consoles for me?
[03:46] <heyjoe2> it wont let me extract files
[03:46] <Xenguy> kditty: try using synaptic also
[03:46] <Managu> kditty: if you do want to install from the tarball, you've almost certainly got the right filename.  Might want to run it with sudo, e.g. "sudo /path/mo\zilla-installer-bin"
[03:46] <kditty> ok, im just so used to windows
[03:46] <Xenguy> kditty: you don't want to install TB from source...
[03:46] <daneturner> AngryElf: can you rule out hardware problems?
[03:47] <kditty> well i checked under internet, where xchat and firefox and gaim are listed, but no thunderbird
[03:47] <Xenguy> kditty: use a 'package' (.deb file) instead
[03:47] <AngryElf> daneturner, it's chargine now through the ieee port, so i'm guessing that rules out hardware probs
[03:47] <AngryElf> *charging
[03:47] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, after you do your reinstall, ask around here for some help with your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:47] <Xenguy> kditty: run synaptic and install from there - it's easy
[03:47] <kditty> ok, so then should i just delete this un tar'd file and the tar file also?
[03:47] <daneturner> kditty: dpkg -l '*thunderbird*' on command line
[03:48] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Okay dude, will do.
[03:48] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, see you around
[03:48] <MadPirateBippy> 'What command do I use in the shell to bring up the GUI?
[03:48] <Managu> jerrod: happen to have them networked?
[03:48] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Dude, thanks for your help -- much appreciated.
[03:48] <Xenguy> kditty: I would ditch the tarball, yes
[03:48] <kditty> ok thanks
[03:49] <polpak> kditty, yeah, just delete those files. You can either get it from synaptic or you can just  sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:49] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, hey I didn't chase you back to windows: I count that as a win ;)
[03:49] <jerrod> Managu: yea, i think i need to use samba. right?
[03:49] <Xenguy> kditty: even easier than synaptic, just do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:49] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Well, I'm dual booting at the moment... just don't tell anyone.
[03:49] <polpak> kditty, this is ubuntu.. you don't have to go and download things off of websites to install software
[03:49] <daneturner> AngryElf: does iPod connect over usb?  oops.  then use lsusb instead of lspci.  what does that output show?
[03:49] <kditty> i wonder if it will be under add applications
[03:49] <polpak> kditty, probably
[03:50] <Xenguy> kditty: you could try that too
[03:50] <kditty> ok, i know how to use that
[03:50] <nickrud> NegativeSpace, I've always been dual boot capable. I do play games now and then.
[03:50] <dgriffin> i'm completely new to ubuntu and i'm trying to install some packages with synaptic but i am constantly getting a notice that dependancies aren't installable...what gives?  gdm-themes, digikam, the list goes on
[03:50] <NegativeSpace> nickrud Heh, totally. Okay I'm out -- once again, thanks.
[03:50] <Xenguy> !tell dgriffin about repos
[03:50] <Managu> jerrod: likely (groans).  I'd definitely see if you can get everything working from within nautilus (sp?) first, though:
[03:50] <Xenguy> e/a
[03:50] <farous> dgriffin: enable extra repos
[03:50] <Xenguy> gah
[03:50] <kditty> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 today, and only just now got my wireless card working. ubuntu is the only distro that auto detects my card but it had the channel wrong. that took me about 2 hours to figure out
[03:51] <Managu> jerrod: e.g. share a folder on the xp machine with write permissions, and then try to find it with places->network servers->windows network
[03:51] <polpak> dgriffin, first I'd recommend just running sudo apt-get update..   It all works fine for me.  Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that maybe some X client you're running, or have run, grabbed the keyboard and didn't release it properly.
[03:52] <farous> hi Madpilot
[03:52] <Zenethian> weird.
[03:52] <Zenethian> that would make me mad
[03:53] <d> alguem do brazil ai?
[03:53] <AdmiralCrunch> just dist-upgraded (on dapper) and now I have a disk error upon startup aka can't get to grub
[03:53] <daneturner> Ramnath: yes, pain in the ass.  but you're driving a tank now, not a sedan.  if you learn the extra complexities you'll be able to take advantage of the power
[03:53] <Zenethian> I think my control key is messed up
[03:53] <Zenethian> hrm
[03:54] <kditty> ok under add applications i found it but it says its unavailable and most likely not available for my platform
[03:54] <Managu> Zenethian: hardware failure could definitely cause problems :-D
[03:54] <suture> How do I set what the default video player is?
[03:54] <hikenboot> hello all---it looks like my xen kernel doesnt recognized boot=/dev/sda1 as a valid partition or somthing because on boot it says to check the boot= line of my menu.lst.. my default kernel recognizes it fine ...does this indicate that somehow ide isnt supported in the kernel or the ext3 file system
[03:54] <kditty> The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.
[03:54] <kditty> thats what it tells me
[03:54] <buba> nas
[03:54] <kditty> maybe it just didnt come on the distro cd?
[03:54] <Zenethian> Managu: actually it seems to work OK.  But hitting Control-Alt-F1 when konsole is up gives me some goofy VT100 characters.  Wacky.
[03:54] <buba> ahhhhh
[03:54] <buba> vale
[03:54] <hikenboot> or am i missing somthing simple?
[03:55] <hikenboot> my relavant boot line is module          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-rc5 root=/dev/hda1 ro console=tty0
[03:55] <Managu> Zenthian: odd.  Personally, I'd kill the running xserver (and everything else...) with ctrl-alt-backspace, and see if that fixes the problem
[03:55] <Managu> hikenboot: whoa, /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1?
[03:55] <d> to com uns probleminhas aqui
[03:55] <daneturner> hikenboot: you mean your root= line?  or your root (hd0,0) line?
[03:56] <buba> vaya kernel mas capullo
[03:56] <CryoTox> Anyone know of a flash creator for Linux
[03:56] <MadPirateBippy> CryoTox: Gimp has a good animation suite.
[03:56] <MadPirateBippy> Dont know if it's flash, per se, but it's good.
[03:56] <blanky> hey guys it's not possible to install three distros on one hd is it (using the same swap, suse fedora and ubuntu)
[03:56] <johnnybezak> hey guys i'm running dapper and checkinstall is segfaulting, is there another way to create .deb's?
[03:56] <Ramnath> warcraft3 still doesn't work even though i got wine
[03:56] <CryoTox> MadPirateBippy: For flash?
[03:56] <cedriczg> Hi, I'd need some help on the synaptic pakage manager
[03:56] <Ramnath> i pop the cd in and nothing
[03:56] <MadPirateBippy> Blanky: Yes, it is.
[03:56] <johnnybezak> Ramnath: cedega or just wine?
[03:56] <hikenboot> ah ok...so stupid thanks i put it on the wrong line ...sorry to bug you all with such a simple stupidity
[03:57] <Ramnath> wine
[03:57] <blanky> MadPirateBippy, really?! :D
[03:57] <MadPirateBippy> Cryo: Probably. Check out www.gimp.org
[03:57] <daneturner> Ramnath: whine
[03:57] <blanky> I just thought there was a problem with something about max partitions or something
[03:57] <johnnybezak> Ramnath: that's prolly you're problem. get cedega
[03:57] <Ramnath> great
[03:57] <cedriczg> Does someone now why my files from /var/lib/apt/lists disapear?
[03:57] <MadPirateBippy> Blanky: I know someone who has RedHat, Suse, and Debian on his laptop
[03:57] <cedriczg> And thus my Synaptic doesn't work...
[03:57] <johnnybezak> MadPirateBippy: what's the point
[03:57] <blanky> MadPirateBippy, really? Okay then I'm going to do it too :D
[03:57] <MadPirateBippy> Cryo: Gimp saves in an amazing number of formats.
[03:57] <cedriczg> Can someone help me?
[03:58] <Managu> cedriczg: sounds really odd, not really much to go on there
[03:58] <MadPirateBippy> Johnny: the point is, he could do it. It was just a fun thing.
[03:58] <CryoTox> bleh. brb
[03:58] <johnnybezak> MadPirateBippy: haha ok
[03:58] <daneturner> looking for suggestions on adding a CA Cert to Firefox system-wide.
[03:58] <cedriczg> Managu, I thought that my problem was the sources.list file, but I think it's other thing
[03:59] <AdmiralCrunch> just dist-upgraded (on dapper) and now I have a disk error upon startup aka can't get to grub
[03:59] <Managu> cedriczg: first thought is, is /var or some subdirectory mounted in a wierd way?
[03:59] <cedriczg> Managu, What other thing may cause the Synaptic not to start ok?
[03:59] <suture> How do I set what the default video player is?
[03:59] <Ramnath> this is as fun as an aneurysm
[03:59] <cedriczg> Managu, I don't think so?
[04:00] <cedriczg> Managu, What do you mean?
[04:00] <cedriczg> Managu, It's in my linux partition...
[04:00] <Managu> cedriczg: why you run Synaptic, i.e. from system->administration->synaptic..., a busy-wait cursor comes up.  What happens next?
[04:01] <cedriczg> Managu, I have a strange file called "lock" in the /var/lib/apt/list that has 0bytes !?
[04:01] <Managu> cedriczg: oh, that's important.  Running any versions of synaptic right now?
[04:01] <cedriczg> Managu, W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio) .....
[04:01] <CarlFK> what is the command to view a pdf?
[04:02] <wonder> hey, i have got problems with mounting a ntfs partition
[04:02] <Emmerac> Does anyone know of a ubuntu live CD that comes with AirSnort?
[04:02] <green-earz> hi all. whats the channel name for ubuntu off topic .
[04:02] <wonder> it's just accessable by root
[04:02] <daneturner> CarlFK: xpdf or evince
[04:02] <cedriczg> Managu, You mean what version am I running?
[04:02] <Managu> cedriczg: ugh, never learned that language.
[04:02] <wonder> when i want to chmod the mountdir it says permission denied read only fs
[04:02] <cedriczg> Managu, (my linux is in spanish :P)
[04:02] <wonder> how would i mount it in a way my normal user could access it?
[04:02] <CarlFK> daneturner: thnaks.  thought it was xpdf, but that isn't installed.  is that normal?
[04:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Emmerac, if you are looking for a good CD for cracking and whatnot, chek out http://remote-exploit.org/
[04:03] <nickrud> cedriczg, you can safely delete that if you don't have synaptic, aptitude or an apt-get session running
[04:03] <Managu> cedriczg: as nickrud suggests, delete the "lock" file, and try running synaptic again
[04:03] <cedriczg> Managu, it means that the pakages from the source .... can't be read. And that /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages doesn't exist
[04:03] <daneturner> CarlFK: not normal for a full Hoary desktop install.  Not sure about Breezy.  Do you have evince?
[04:03] <cedriczg> Managu, i'll try that
[04:03] <CarlFK> daneturner: yes.  it is a dapper install.  ill report it
[04:04] <cedriczg> Managu, thank you
[04:04] <Managu> cedriczg: np, hope it works
[04:05] <Managu> wonder:  How are you attempting to mount the ntfs filesystem?
[04:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry guys, the link I posted earlier was bad.  Use http://www.remote-exploit.org/index.php/BackTrack for a good cracking/security live CD
[04:06] <daneturner> no takers on my CA Cert question?
[04:06] <wonder> Managu: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[04:06] <cedriczg> Managu, That didn't work
[04:06] <Managu> daneturner: just random speculation: does the system keep some repository of certificates somewhere below /etc?
[04:07] <kditty>  sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird didnt work
[04:07] <Managu> wonder: man mount.  I think you want to add something like "-o umask=0"
[04:07] <kditty> said i may need to update apt-get
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> I know ther eis a package for CA certifertcates someewhere
[04:07] <FliesLikeALap> http://www.noisebot.com/images/potato-thumb.gif
[04:07] <Managu> cedriczg: how 'bout "sudo apt-cache update"
[04:07] <FliesLikeALap> damnit wrong chan sorry
[04:07] <cedriczg> Managu, I can manage Synaptic to work if I do a "refresh", but that means to download many files
[04:07] <cedriczg> Managu, I tried that
[04:07] <wonder> Managu: thx, yes i wanted that :)
[04:07] <Managu> wonder: np
[04:08] <cedriczg> Managu, It worked, but then again when I reboot I have the same problem
[04:08] <Managu> cedriczg: wow.  Where is /var mounted?
[04:08] <jerrod> managu: when i try to log in from the xp machine to the ubuntu server, it wont
[04:08] <daneturner> Managu: FunnyLookinHat: ca-certificates is the package suggested by folks on #debian
[04:08] <Managu> ack, too many lines with my name in them!
[04:08] <cedriczg> Managu, What do you mean about where?
[04:08] <MadPirateBippy> Dumb question: I need to restart, how do I do that?
[04:08] <FunnyLookinHat> daneturner, yes, that's it.  I don't know if ubuntu repos have it though
[04:08] <cedriczg> Managu,  It is mounted in the partition where I have ubunntu installed
[04:09] <FunnyLookinHat> You might need to enable backports or whatever that is called
[04:09] <Managu> jerrod: how bout going the other way?
[04:09] <daneturner> yup, they do.  ca-certificates creates /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
[04:09] <Managu> cedriczg: on the hard drive?
[04:09] <daneturner> but Firefox doesn't seem to use it
[04:09] <FunnyLookinHat> daneturner, if you are using it for WPA encryp that's what you want, I used it for my schools WPA encrypted network
[04:09] <cedriczg> Managu, yes
[04:09] <jerrod> managu: let me try it
[04:09] <cedriczg> Managu, Sorry the sudo apt-cache update doesn't work
[04:10] <Managu> cedriczg: ok, lemme go look at a man page, sec
[04:10] <daneturner> trying to deploy locally created CA Cert to linux lab computers
[04:10] <cedriczg> Managu, I manage to repair Synaptic doing sudo aptitude update;
[04:10] <cedriczg> sudo aptitude upgrade;
[04:10] <cedriczg> sudo aptitude install
[04:11] <Ramnath> cannot load any applets
[04:11] <Managu> cedriczg: careful, "apt-get" and "apt-cache" are different commands
[04:11] <daneturner> Adding a CA Cert to firefox is easy _per_user_...
[04:11] <Managu> cedriczg: try "apt-get update"?
[04:12] <Managu> cedriczg: whoops, guess that was my mistake ^_^
[04:12] <cedriczg> Managu, Well that command is the same as doing refrersh on the Synaptic
[04:13] <daneturner> Ramnath: you're a curious one.  are you asking a question?
[04:13] <cedriczg> Managu, But as I told you it take some time and I have a conection that has a limit of !Gb per month :(
[04:13] <Managu> cedriczg: ok.  So once you do that, Synaptic works properly?
[04:13] <cedriczg> Managu,  1Gb per month
[04:13] <Ramnath> the wine control panel says that it cannot load any applets
[04:13] <cedriczg> Managu, yes
[04:13] <Managu> cedriczg: I understand.  One thing at a time :-)
[04:13] <cedriczg> Managu, but then again after rebooting the same problem
[04:13] <jonolson> cedriczg, Do you have the choice to change that?  Sounds horrible.
[04:14] <charles`> New Dells come with the option of integrated soundblaster audigy sound.  Can anyone confirm that this works on Ubuntu? I can't find it in the matrix of compatibility on Alsa's site, but I think this is fairly new
[04:14] <cedriczg> jonolson, change what? my conection?
[04:14] <jonolson> cedriczg, Make it so their isn't a cap on your bandwidth.
[04:14] <nickrud> charles`, you could try the live cd, it nearly always matches the install cd for hardware
[04:14] <Managu> cedriczg: trying to think what would possibly zap the lists there
[04:15] <cedriczg> jonolson, It would be necessary to pay much more :P
[04:15] <charles`> nickrud: unfortunately I can't, I'm wondering whether to upgrade on a system I'm about to purchase
[04:15] <jonolson> cedriczg, Ah ok. haha. :P
[04:15] <charles`> nickrud: I want to make sure it will work before I buy it
[04:15] <Managu> cedriczg: could you run "mount" and post the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[04:15] <nickrud> cedriczg, will someone else let you piggyback on their service occasionally?
[04:15] <nickrud> charles`, it's free
[04:15] <kditty> i updated aptitude and cant find an english thunderbird on there
[04:15] <charles`> nickrud: before I buy the system
[04:15] <nickrud> charles`, sorry, yeah ;)
[04:16] <cedriczg> Managu, ok
[04:16] <charles`> nickrud: which definitely isn't free =)
[04:16] <nickrud> charles`, I just saw buy, and stopped reading
[04:16] <cedriczg> nickrud, piggyback? what meant that?
[04:16] <nickrud> cedriczg, use
[04:16] <Toma-> hey, just got a new 64bit cpu, and installed it in my 32bit system that has ubuntu... the 32 bit flavor. is there a simple way to make it deal with the 64bit-ness without a re-install?
[04:16] <charles`> so.. anyone know? or know where to look?  I did a pretty comprehensive google search to no avail
[04:17] <Toma-> im getting a bunch of errors, like VGA not loading aswell
[04:17] <cedriczg> nickrud, I understand your "solution" but I don't think so. I can manage to download the apt-get aptdate, but it is a bit bothering doing it every time
[04:18] <Managu> charles`: chances are it'll work, most of the integrated sound cards are just some flavor of AC'98.  That said, I haven't any experience
[04:18] <GTroy> I need an extreme amount of help here!!!
[04:18] <nickrud> cedriczg, I think I see. You are trying to use synaptic to get some specific packages off the net, but synaptic is trying to get a bunch you don't want, right?
[04:19] <GTroy> I pray someone knows how to help me this time
[04:19] <jonolson> GTroy, Just ask the question ;)
[04:19] <V4Vendetta> yeaa baby
[04:19] <V4Vendetta> pitt panthers for the win
[04:19] <cedriczg> nickrud, right. You understood me.
[04:19] <Managu> nickrud: seems cedriczg's problem (which he had diagnosed before he came here) is that apt isn't properly caching the packages list for him
[04:19] <mrnicksgirl> I'm looking for the MD5 sums of the latest live and install CDs .. I can't find it on the site???
[04:19] <GTroy> If I screwed up xorg.conf so bad I can't enter terminal on startup what do I do?
[04:19] <Managu> nickrud: or I could be wrong =p
[04:19] <jonolson> GTroy, Xorg has nothing to do with your term.
[04:20] <V4Vendetta> yea, nothing
[04:20] <Madpilot> mrnicksgirl, look for a file called MD5SUM, should be in the same directory you found the ISOs in
[04:20] <GTroy> I see bootup then blank screen
[04:20] <cedriczg> Managu, Well I can only manage that after every refresh wich takes ages :P
[04:20] <nickrud> cedriczg, ok. Those things synaptic is trying to get are updates, for bug fixes, or for security fixes. You can ignore them, if you want
[04:20] <jonolson> GTroy, Just make a backup of your xorg config...if it fails just switch back to your first xorg config.
[04:20] <Toma-> !easysource
[04:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:20] <daneturner> GTroy: if X is really the problem, delete xorg.conf and try without it.
[04:20] <GTroy> jonolson: did that
[04:20] <MadPirateBippy> jonolson- how do you do that?
[04:21] <jonolson> MadPirateBippy, Cp?  I think.  *is tired*
[04:21] <GTroy> ok, I'll *squirm* use knoppix
[04:21] <kditty> ok, i need to install thunderbird, but aptitude doesnt have an english version and the add applications doesnt have an install either, whats a feller to do?
[04:21] <daneturner> GTroy: can you boot to console 9single-user mode)?
[04:21] <mrnicksgirl> Mad - thanks
[04:21] <GTroy> I've got no command line to fix things
[04:21] <daneturner> oops. console (single-user mode)
[04:21] <GTroy> not from ubuntu
[04:21] <theeo123> good evening people
[04:21] <Managu> kditty: (a) did you install with english as the default language/etc?
[04:21] <kditty> yes
[04:22] <kditty> everything is in english
[04:22] <Managu> kditty: (b) have you tried synaptic? (System->administration->Synaptic package manager)
[04:22] <MadPirateBippy> g'night guys, after fighting with this thing for 10 hours, I'm going to bed.
[04:22] <kditty> and it has about 6 languages, greek, portuguese etc
[04:22] <cedriczg> nickrud, but if I don't do it I can't see the packages to install a NEW progrram I want
[04:22] <Managu> theeo123: evening
[04:22] <theeo123> I'm in need of help yet agian , I'm guessign you're al lgetting tired of me by now *L*
[04:22] <jonolson> GTroy, Did you try booting the "recovery" kernel?  I'm not sure if it's particularly advisable as it drops you into root.  But all you need to do is erase xorgconfig, so it shouldn't be too hard...
[04:22] <cedriczg> Managu, I pasted the mount result on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9989
[04:22] <kditty> trying now
[04:22] <daneturner> GTroy: boot to single-user mode from the boot loader, before Ubuntu gets rolling
[04:22] <GTroy> daneturner: how do I do that?
[04:23] <GTroy> jonolson: never tried using recovery kernel
[04:23] <jonolson> GTroy, Or single user mode, which daneturner is talking about..That's what I meant.
[04:23] <Managu> cedriczg: ok, nothing too funky there.  Next thought... one second =)
[04:23] <theeo123> I recently switched over from Windows, i had a HUGH (150 gig +) e-book collection, reading PDf, no prob, HTML no prob,  what i need to know is how to view or at least convert chm and .Lit
[04:23] <nickrud> cedriczg, yes you can. It's called putting a package on hold, so synaptic will pretty much ignore it
[04:23] <Lakini> is there a way that I can add a picture to a Nautilus window, like is seen on the (xp) My Pictures folder, etc? Not a pattern, but a picture
[04:23] <daneturner> GTroy: after BIOS messages disappear, you see GRUB bootloader message.  Press ESC key and choose single-user
[04:24] <cedriczg> nickrud, And how is that done?
[04:24] <GTroy> daneturner: s' what I needed
[04:24] <kditty> grek, korean. portuguese, turkish, norwegian are my options
[04:25] <Managu> kditty: ouch.  Where did you find them?
[04:25] <kditty> synaptic package manager
[04:25] <nickrud> cedriczg, I use aptitude for that, but I don't recommend that way. Give a moment to see how synaptic does it
[04:25] <Managu> kditty: yes, but under which category?
[04:25] <kditty> i did a serach for thunderbird
[04:25] <cedriczg> nickrud, ok, thank you
[04:25] <theeo123> So does anyon have an idea on how to read, orm aybe convert & then read .LIt and .CHM files ?
[04:26] <mrnicksgirl> I'm excited to install ubuntu ... been getting annoyed with windows as a web development environment.
[04:26] <Klyick> anyone have any experience with ubuntu sound issues?
[04:26] <Managu> cedriczg: I'm out of good ideas.  If what you say is true, you're somehow losing some part of your apt cache on every bootup.  I'd look through the bootup files for suspicious stuff, but that'll take a while
[04:27] <greenwom> lo all, I've got a odd internet problem.  I can view the ubuntuforums and other sites but gmail, yahoo, google.com are no goes????
[04:27] <daneturner> Klyick: what's the question?
[04:27] <Managu> kditty: ok.  lemme see.  What's in your sources.list file?
[04:27] <do_me_nice> http://pastebin.com/595733
[04:28] <do_me_nice> i need to edit a partians size
[04:28] <do_me_nice> which command would do that...
[04:28] <cedriczg> Managu, maybe I can backup the new files I have now on /var/lib/apt/lists, reboot now and see what happens
[04:28] <greenwom> lo?
[04:28] <theeo123> Bummer :(
[04:28] <Managu> cedriczg: that's likely to work -- at least until packages change
[04:28] <Managu> greenwom: evening
[04:28] <Klyick> daneturner: I've got a inspirion 3500 laptop, and alsa doesn't seem to think a soundcard is there
[04:28] <daneturner> do_me_nice: parted, gparted, cfdisk, kparted
[04:28] <cedriczg> Managu, yes :P
[04:28] <Zenethian> alright, fixed that problem (xkb bug) now on to another.  How do I disable that god awful system beep?
[04:28] <Zenethian> I don't want beeps coming out of my soundcard!
[04:29] <cedriczg> Managu, I'll try it now and tell you the result
[04:29] <kditty> sorry managu, i wouldnt even know how to check my sources.list file
[04:29] <kditty> i dont even know what it is
[04:29] <Managu> Zenethian: hammer + arm -> speaker?
[04:29] <cedriczg> Managu, thank you very much, and see ya
[04:29] <Managu> cedriczg: g'luck
[04:29] <Zenethian> Managu: what?
[04:29] <cedriczg> nickrud, thank you to you too ;)
[04:29] <cedriczg> bye
[04:29] <ttread> greenwom, do you get an error message?
[04:30] <Managu> kditty: in synaptic, go back to the categories view, and find the "email" category
[04:30] <nickrud> cedriczg, darn
[04:30] <theeo123> Can anyoen even point me i nthe right direction maybee?
[04:30] <daneturner> kditty: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:30] <Managu> Zenethian: if you take a hammer to you speakers, the noise will stop
[04:30] <Zenethian> yeah
[04:30] <Zenethian> that isn't a very good solution
[04:30] <Zenethian> :P
[04:31] <daneturner> Klyick: lspci on command line, any audio lines?
[04:31] <lcore> theeo123: gnochm
[04:31] <Managu> Zenethian: *Shrug* If you just don't like the beep, you might look at System -> preferences ->sound
[04:31] <kditty> ok, im in sources.list but there is a whole bunch of stuff
[04:31] <GTroy> daneturner, jonolson: problem fixed!!!
[04:31] <Lakini> does anyone know of a way to add a background image to a nautilus window, instead of a plain colour or a pattern?
[04:31] <Phr0stByte> Anyone with Dapper on a laptop have a VERY slow trackpad?
[04:32] <Managu> Lakini: I could be wrong, but I doubt nautilus supports that
[04:32] <Zenethian> Managu: can you tell me where that menu would be located at in Blackbox?  :P
[04:32] <theeo123> lcore cool thanks,   gettign that now :)  any idea's for the .LIT files ?
[04:32] <Lakini> hmmm, bummer
[04:32] <Zenethian> Managu: it seems to be independant of the session manager I use.
[04:32] <daneturner> GTroy: and the sun shined upon them all :)
[04:32] <Klyick> daneturner: Yes, it gives me Neomagic Audio
[04:32] <Managu> Zenethian: errm, rightio.  Let me see if I can find it in short order
[04:32] <Zenethian> hehe
[04:32] <Zenethian> I've searched the web a bit
[04:33] <GTroy> daneturner: now back to dual monitor on e-17
[04:33] <kditty> also, thunderbird isnt in my synaptic pack manager managu
[04:33] <JaGWiRE`> hey guys, I just tried a ubuntu install, it failed, wanting some help
[04:33] <Managu> Zenethian: gnome-sound-properties?
[04:33] <JaGWiRE`> I got the same result as when I tried to install fedora core (suse didn't give me this result) (suse worked properly..)
[04:33] <JaGWiRE`>  after the ubuntu install was done, I got an error and couldn't load into the x gui environement when it tried the first boot
[04:33] <daneturner> kditty: what about mozilla-thunderbird
[04:33] <JaGWiRE`> any ideas? i can give system stats
[04:34] <kditty> nope
[04:34] <JaGWiRE`> bleh, just a quick copy and paste.. : my syystem stats are :  1 gb ram, dfi lan party ultra nf4, athlon 3200+ venice, sapphire radeon x800xl, seagate 300 gb 7200.9, western dgitail 250 gige sata1
[04:34] <do_me_nice> http://pastebin.com/595740
[04:34] <hikenboot> well the problem wasnt the improper line putting boot=...instead it leads to another question...what part of the compile process creates the /lib/modules directory ...mine seems to be missing
[04:34] <do_me_nice> any help here ^^
[04:35] <kditty> just a bunch of language packages, not even full installs
[04:35] <JaGWiRE`> lol this channels great, everyone is asking fdor help
[04:35] <JaGWiRE`> :p
[04:35] <hikenboot> the kernel sub directory i mean
[04:35] <daneturner> JaGWiRE: tried the generic 'vesa' video driver yet?
[04:35] <JaGWiRE`> dane, I have no idea
[04:35] <kditty> my sources.list file says Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network, should i do that managu?
[04:35] <JaGWiRE`> i don't boot into gnome, I get stuck in bash
[04:35] <JaGWiRE`> and as a linux noob, I have little knowledge of any bash CMDS
[04:35] <JaGWiRE`>  my linux book I ordered won't arrive until monday :(
[04:36] <Managu> kditty: errm, could you paste your sources.list file into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/?
[04:36] <daneturner> JaGWiRE: ok.  edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (you can use vi right :)
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`>  dane, I only know vi is a text editor
[04:36] <ttread> JagWirE, you will probably need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the console
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`> I know nothing else.
[04:36] <kditty> sure
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`>  hm
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`>  is there any real easy way?
[04:36] <cedriczg> back again
[04:36] <jerrod> managu: when i try to login from my ubuntu comp to the xp comp it will let my view it, but when i try to login to the ubuntu computer it kicks out my password
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`> hmm
[04:36] <cedriczg> Managu, Well it seems it still works
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`> heh
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`> this is going to sound ridiculous
[04:36] <jerrod> managu: view a text doc
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`> can somone pm me the exact cmds I need to type
[04:36] <cedriczg> Managu, the files are still there
[04:36] <JaGWiRE`> so I can print them out?
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> :P
[04:37] <Managu> cedriczg: cool =)
[04:37] <cedriczg> Managu, but I'm not confident it will work for long
[04:37] <Managu> jerrod: that should be enough to let you copy the file you want, no?
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> i know this is a lot to ask, but I know nothing about the command line interface of bash, or how to use VI or any text editor
[04:37] <daneturner> JaGWiRE: sure.  send output of this command to us:  grep 'Driver' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:37] <Managu> JaGWiRE`, ouch =(
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> hmm
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> dane
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> damn, I don't have a second pc with me
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> fucking a :P
[04:37] <JaGWiRE`> let me go see if I can find another computer
[04:37] <cedriczg> Managu, Because I had once the Synaptic working this way for some rebootings and then the same thing
[04:37] <jerrod> managu: i want to send a file from the ubuntu comp to the xp computer (his computer has a dvd burner :)
[04:38] <kditty> managu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9990
[04:38] <cedriczg> Managu, but it is a little conquest
[04:38] <Managu> ugh, there's my name again!
[04:38] <kditty> sorry
[04:38] <Managu> jerrod: should be just drag and drop, on whichever computer is working
[04:39] <cedriczg> Managu, Can some ot the upgrades that suggests the ubuntu (when I start an internet conection) do some collateral efect of this matter?
[04:39] <Managu> kditty: got that sources.list file open in an editor?  Take the '#' off the beginning of lines 3 and 4.  Get rid of the first space too, so that they start with "deb"
[04:39] <kditty> ok
[04:40] <vejan> why would firefox not go to sun.com but other sites are ok?
[04:40] <Managu> cedriczg: I doubt it.  I don't really know what the problem is for you.  The only real thing you'd need to worry about is a large change to the package list, which probably won't happen very often
[04:40] <cedriczg> Managu, For example now it suggests me to upgrade the libvte-common and the libvte4, which I don't know what are
[04:40] <Managu> kditty: save.  Close synaptic and restart it
[04:40] <JaGWiRE`> okay, I am logging in on my noteobok now
[04:40] <beeblebrox> hey gurlz
[04:40] <Managu> cedriczg: why update them if you don't need to?  Just put them on hold
[04:40] <Klyick> I'm afraid that I 'm stuck there
[04:41] <beeblebrox> whast's everyone talkn bout ?
[04:41] <nickrud> cedriczg, they are the guts to gnome-terminal.
[04:41] <daneturner> JaGWiRE: still there?  ready?
[04:41] <JaGWiRE2> dane
[04:41] <JaGWiRE2> let me boot it up
[04:41] <cedriczg> Managu, I once updated the kernel for ex.
[04:41] <JaGWiRE2> shall I read to you the error I get?
[04:41] <Managu> kditty: when you get synaptic restarted, click "reload"
[04:41] <JaGWiRE2> it's quite long if I check the lgo or whatever its called
[04:41] <cedriczg> nickrud, And may I update them?
[04:41] <daneturner> no thanks
[04:41] <Managu> cedriczg: that shouldn't matter
[04:41] <daneturner> get to a CL
[04:41] <theeo123> beeblebrox, wel lim' trying to find a way to wither View or convert .lit files   there was some talk about smashing speakers with a hamemr too
[04:41] <JaGWiRE2> okay dane, just a moment
[04:41] <JaGWiRE2> rebooting my rig
[04:41] <theeo123> in general fun stuff :)
[04:42] <beeblebrox> lol
[04:42] <JaGWiRE2> btw, thanks dane
[04:42] <beeblebrox> smashing speakers is awesomely fun
[04:42] <nickrud> cedriczg, if you want. I've been on low bandwidth before, sometimes I'd hold them.
[04:42] <cedriczg> Managu, ok. Than you a lot. Here as I said once I find real help :)
[04:42] <Managu> =)
[04:42] <JaGWiRE2> right now ubuntus loading :)
[04:42] <kditty> it gave me an error on load, is that normal?
[04:42] <kditty> it still let me in
[04:42] <cedriczg> nickrud, right. Thank you a lot to you too.
[04:42] <Managu> kditty: depends on the error.  PRobably not, but let's cross our fingers
[04:42] <kditty> hah
[04:43] <snooo> whats this about irc exploits? how do i connect via port 8001 in xchat?
[04:43] <kditty> well, its there
[04:43] <kditty> mozilla-thunderbird
[04:43] <Klyick> what can I do to diagnose alsa further
[04:43] <heyjoe2> anyone know any good wav to mp3 converters
[04:43] <heyjoe2> audacity aint working for me
[04:43] <JaGWiRE3> sorry about that, was ocnnected ot neighbors network
[04:43] <JaGWiRE3> im in bash
[04:43] <JaGWiRE3> or the CLI
[04:43] <Managu> kditty: good.  Sources.list is an important file in debian and in ubuntu.  You'll want to probably "uncomment" a few more of those lines as time goes on.  There's more information on the support pages at ubuntulinux.com
[04:43] <daneturner> grep 'Driver' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <theeo123> I worked at Ms for 2 years.... I'm on Linux for a reason *L*
[04:44] <chalcedony> lol theeo123
[04:44] <Managu> heyjoe2: L.A.M.E., perhaps?
[04:44] <kditty> thanks alot
[04:44] <kditty> i try to ask in forums too, to keep the load off of you guys, but you do a great job managu
[04:44] <Managu> kditty: now if only someone knew the answer to my question =D
[04:44] <Morfosomo> how can i change the current font size in nautilus?
[04:45] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me what part of the kernel compile process creates the /lib/modules directory?
[04:45] <beeblebrox> yay
[04:45] <kditty> whats your question?
[04:45] <daneturner> JaGWiRE, waiting on output of above command
[04:45] <heyjoe2> managu: i downloaded lame, but audacity wont recognize it, or is there an actual application called lame i can use?
[04:45] <JaGWiRE3> dane
[04:45] <beeblebrox> that's ignorance
[04:45] <JaGWiRE3> check pm
[04:45] <Managu> heyjoe2: errm, yes?  maybe?  I don't know
[04:45] <JaGWiRE3> output is given in pm
[04:45] <JaGWiRE3> daneturner
[04:45] <champ> what app do i need to untar and unzip and all that in linux?
[04:46] <daneturner> don't understand.  new to irc
[04:46] <Managu> I want to get sound out of Vmware and World of Warcraft (under Cedega) at the same time
[04:46] <FunnyLookinHat> How do I disable the power manager?
[04:46] <kditty> way above my head buddy
[04:46] <JaGWiRE3> daneturn, check your private message
[04:46] <JaGWiRE3> the flashing box that says jagwire
[04:46] <JaGWiRE3> jagwire3 probably
[04:46] <JaGWiRE3> click on it
[04:46] <kditty> but didnt you try asking on ubuntu forums?
[04:46] <ardchoille> daneturner, JaGWiRE3 if either of you aren't identified to NickServ, you may not see the PM text
[04:46] <daneturner> looking...
[04:46] <Managu> heyjoe: apt-cache show lame
[04:47] <daneturner> not seeing...
[04:47] <JaGWiRE3> ard, is it complex to iden
[04:47] <JaGWiRE3> do I have to reg?:
[04:47] <JaGWiRE3> yeah, I am getting an error
[04:47] <daneturner> just paste the f**ker
[04:47] <Managu> heyjoe2: and ignore the part about lame not being an mp3 encoder.  GNU's not unix, after all.
[04:47] <JaGWiRE3> telling me I need to be idented
[04:47] <daneturner> :)
[04:47] <theeo123> sadly I've been unable to find the e-books i want in anything other than .lit :(
[04:47] <ardchoille> you have to register and then identify, not hard at all. /msg nickserv help  will tell you what you need to know
[04:47] <JaGWiRE3>  grep: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory.
[04:47] <JaGWiRE3> thats my response
[04:47] <kditty> managu, do i also remove programs from synaptic?
[04:47] <heyjoe2> managu: sorry?
[04:48] <Managu> heyjoe2: apt-cache show lame
[04:48] <daneturner> typo! X11 please
[04:48] <JaGWiRE3> dane
[04:48] <JaGWiRE3> join channel jagwire
[04:48] <Managu> kditty: yeah, you can use synaptic to remove packages as well
[04:48] <JaGWiRE3> okay, then I will type response i nthere
[04:48] <heyjoe2> managu: now what do i do
[04:48] <beeblebrox> dane you drunkn
[04:48] <ardchoille> JaGWiRE3: that was an awesome idea :)
[04:48] <beeblebrox> dane you drunkn
[04:48] <beeblebrox> ?
[04:48] <JaGWiRE3> lol ard, thanks
[04:48] <kithe> hi, I just reinstalled my linux and after I installed to nvidia drivers I can't use my LCD monitor in X... anyone know what this might be becouse of?
[04:48] <beeblebrox> is the monitor attached?
[04:49] <Managu> heyjoe2: lame is a command-line mp3 encoder.  I don't happen to know the magic incantation off the top of my head... man page perhaps?
[04:49] <Klyick> the line I get from lspci is
[04:49] <kithe> ofcourse... I'm using it now...
[04:49] <Managu> kithe: do you have 2 monitors attached to the card?
[04:49] <Klyick>  Multimedia audio controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2200 [MagicMedia 256AV Audio]  (rev 20)
[04:49] <champ> what app do i need to untar and unzip and all that in linux?
[04:49] <snooo> hey, the software updater popup is refusing to do anything when i press install on new updates, how do i sort that?
[04:49] <kditty> eh, i guess it wouldnt hurt to leave evolution mail on here since i dont even know what im doing
[04:49] <kithe> Managu: yeah, the LCD that is DVI and a CRT on the VGA socket
[04:50] <heyjoe2> managu: http://pastebin.com/595751
[04:50] <Managu> kithe: nvidia doesn't play well with multi-monitor setups under linux.  You'll have to fool around with the config files by hand a bit.  If you're up for it, take a look at the docs in ... I think /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-(something)
[04:51] <theeo123> champ it's called archive manage,r & should already be isntalled
[04:51] <Managu> heyjoe2: sec
[04:51] <champ> theeo123: thank you
[04:51] <kithe> Managu: ah okay thanks mate
[04:51] <Managu> heyjoe2: thanks =p
[04:51] <heyjoe2> managu: no thank u
[04:51] <theeo123> champ also do a search for "ubuntu automatix" on google,  it covers a lot of the initial "everyone shoudl do this" type steps, for you
[04:52] <theeo123> champ like instlaling video codecs & media players etc.
[04:52] <snooo> can anyone help me?
[04:52] <Lakini> aha! found how to change the nautilus background!
[04:52] <ardchoille> !automatix
[04:52] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:52] <theeo123> snoo the answer is 42... always 42
[04:52] <Lakini> drag the image into the nautilus window, hold Alt and click set as Background, sets the file manager background, not the desktop :D
[04:52] <Managu> heyjoe2: http://pastebin.com/595757
[04:53] <snooo> i'm sure automatix is going to be a headache by the time dapper comes around
[04:53] <Toma-> !easyubuntu
[04:53] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it.   It tells you how to use lame to convert wav files to mp3 files
[04:54] <Toma-> Just installed a new mobo and 64bit cpu to my system. will i have to re-install? ive already tried a dpkg-reconfigure -a yeh i still cant get ndiswrapper, my VGA card or my tvcard to load.... might be the PCI slot handler in the bios... hmmm.
[04:54] <nalioth> snooo: language please
[04:54] <cyberatom> anyone dualboot ubuntu with windows but on second HDD?
[04:54] <nalioth> !offtopic
[04:54] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:55] <heyjoe2> managu: so is lame all command line, im not confident with command line, id rather use an application, or configure lame for an app
[04:55] <snooo> apologies
[04:55] <Managu> heyjoe2: that's right, it's command line
[04:55] <Toma-> heyjoe2, what are u trying to do?
[04:55] <heyjoe2> Toma-: convert wav to mp3
[04:55] <heyjoe2> and audacity wont recognize my lame
[04:55] <Toma-> audacity
[04:56] <heyjoe2> and grip wont work
[04:56] <Toma-> oh :D
[04:56] <snooo> can anyone help me with my prob anyway?
[04:56] <Toma-> tried xmms?
[04:56] <Toma-> xmms-lame is all you need
[04:56] <Toma-> !info xmms-lame
[04:56] <Toma-> damn it
[04:56] <edude05> Lol, I like the word dual too much
[04:56] <Xenguy> heyjoe2: try this on 1 of the wav's: lame -h -V 4 x.wav x.mp3
[04:57] <Managu> snooo: try killing the popup, and running "sudo apt-get upgrade" from a command-line?
[04:57] <heyjoe2> !info xmms-lame
[04:57] <erick> Having some trouble getting evolution connector to work with exchange; anyone familiar that could help?
[04:57] <Toma-> heyjoe2, theres an xmms plugin that uses lame. not in the repos tho :/
[04:57] <heyjoe2> Toma-: can i get it from synaptic
[04:57] <Toma-> heyjoe2, doubtful...
[04:57] <heyjoe2> argh
[04:58] <heyjoe2> anyways, ill be back to sort it out later. gotta go
[04:58] <cge> How can I get epiphany to save tar.gz/iso/etc files by default instead of opening them?
[04:58] <Klyick> can anyone help with a laptop sound issue?
[04:58] <Managu> Klyick: you listed the lspci listing before, what was it?
[04:59] <Klyick> Multimedia audio controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2200 [MagicMedia 256AV Audio]  (rev 20)
[04:59] <Managu> ooh, neomagic.  I thought they made video cards
[04:59] <Klyick> they do
[04:59] <Klyick> i think
[05:00] <ubuntu> greetings...........How would one change the "speed" of the scroll wheel? (number of lines skipped when rolled)
[05:00] <Managu> klyick: What happens to be the problem?
[05:00] <JaGWiRE3> okay, I need to know how to install ati drivers on ubuntu
[05:00] <JaGWiRE3> i'm using vesa generic drivers now
[05:00] <JaGWiRE3> join #jagwire if you'll be kind enough to help me (Dont want to spam chan)
[05:01] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, you'll likely get more help by talking at large -- use http://pastebin.com/, etc for large posts
[05:01] <Klyick> Managu: There appears to be no sound card. No applications can find one, and the sound popup on the desktop says the same.
[05:01] <JaGWiRE3> heh
[05:01] <JaGWiRE3> i have another problem
[05:02] <JaGWiRE3> i have no intgernet connection
[05:02] <JaGWiRE3> must be aqn ethernet problem
[05:02] <JaGWiRE3> not on wireless.. hmm, i'm using the 2nd ethernet port Ibelieve, disabled the first
[05:02] <Managu> Klyick: The (essentially) definitive source is the ALSA project.  Here's what they say:"http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Neomagic#matrix"
[05:02] <Managu> Klyick: long story short: ALSA (and hence, linux) doesn't support your sound card
[05:03] <JaGWiRE3> hmm
[05:03] <JaGWiRE3> i jsut stastically aasigned my ip, but stl lno luck
[05:03] <JaGWiRE3> have no clue what to do :P
[05:03] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, anything else on your local network?
[05:03] <JaGWiRE3> of courwse
[05:03] <JaGWiRE3> many other boxes
[05:03] <thompa> anyone know hot to speed up touchpad speed
[05:03] <Classic-> how much space need for ubuntu ?
[05:04] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, I'd start by trying to ping IPs
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> classic, 1.8 gb min i think or something
[05:04] <V4Vendetta> Classic-~ server or desktop install?
[05:04] <Classic-> server
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> mangu
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> t
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> thats what
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> weird
[05:04] <Classic-> also gui.
[05:04] <V4Vendetta> Classic-~ like 1.5gb i think
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> google works, must just be that one page
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> my mistake, sorry.
[05:04] <ubuntu> anyone know how to change the speed of the scroll wheel in gnome?
[05:04] <V4Vendetta> Classic-~ oh then, like 2.0gb +
[05:04] <thompa> me too
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> yeah, so I need hel pinstalling these nix drivers
[05:04] <Classic-> Install not be gui?
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> more a less, I need to be baby footed
[05:04] <V4Vendetta> wooo pitt panthers for the win
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> i'm using vesa generic now
[05:04] <JaGWiRE3> and I want to install these ati drivers
[05:05] <Classic-> Installer*
[05:05] <Klyick> Managu: Thanks for your help. At least I finally have a solid answer.
[05:05] <Managu> Klyick: sorry =(
[05:05] <Managu> Klyick: other options to look into are: oss sound drivers through 4front technologies
[05:06] <Managu> Klyick: they're commercial ($$) software, but they support a slightly different set of hardware than free drivers
[05:06] <JaGWiRE3> downloading ati-driver-installer-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.run now
[05:06] <Classic-> Ubuntu Installer is not gui?
[05:07] <RageMax> nope
[05:07] <Managu> Klyick: it may happen that there are OSSfree drivers that support your soundcard even though there are no ALSA drivers (not real likely, but...).  Might be an avenue to look down
[05:07] <RageMax> it's relatively easy though
[05:07] <Classic-> And Ubuntu will run on p4 2.4ghz 256ddr,18gb harddisk, 3d geforce mx 4000 card.?
[05:07] <IdleOne> Classic-> yes it is . called Synaptic
[05:07] <amonroy> when I try to ssh to my ubuntu box I get this warning "Warning: Kerberos authentication disabled in SUID client" and it stays like that for ever. It was working fine before. What could it be?
[05:07] <JaGWiRE3> i just tried to open the .run file
[05:07] <amonroy> I tried rebooting the machine
[05:08] <JaGWiRE3> this is what i get
[05:08] <JaGWiRE3> "gedit was not able to automatically dfetect the character coding. Please, check that you are not trying to open a binary fiel and try against sleecting a character coding in the 'open file' (or open location') dialogue
[05:08] <Managu> amonroy: did you SUID root the ssh binary?
[05:08] <Managu> amonroy: or install it with that option?
[05:09] <conn> hi, if I retrieve a package from the repo as source, modify and compile, how do I create a .deb from it?
[05:09] <amonroy> Managu: not that I am aware of, I just installed ubuntu, it has been up for a few months, and now I get this error
[05:09] <Managu> amonroy: how odd.  Been hacked?
[05:10] <amonroy> Managu: it is possible I have been hacked, but how can I know?
[05:11] <Managu> amonroy: *shrug* I doubt it's happened.  Kinda like gremlins, the first person you blame when something mysteriously goes wrong
[05:11] <JaGWiRE3>  ah
[05:11] <JaGWiRE3> i feel so smart!
[05:12] <JaGWiRE3> i figured out how to get this going
[05:12] <JaGWiRE3> woot!! yeah!!
[05:12] <amonroy> Managu: I am able to log in directly on the machine
[05:12] <JaGWiRE3> how do i save my x window configuration file?
[05:12] <amonroy> but not via ssh
[05:12] <mrnicksgirl> trying to burn a CD of Ubuntu on  windows.... checksum was ok... it says ... :< says "Operation has failed" Reason: A generic error occurred
[05:12] <amonroy> Managu: what coould it be? or how should I check if sshd is running properly?
[05:13] <Managu> amonroy: it's a long shot, but perhaps remove the ssh packages (be sure to purge the config) and reinstall them?
[05:13] <amonroy> ugh, that sounds painful
[05:13] <eobanb> mrnicksgirl, that sounds like a problem either with your CD burning app, your CD drive, your media, windows, or the disk image you're burning :)
[05:13] <JaGWiRE3>  lol
[05:13] <JaGWiRE3> how do I run /usr/x11r6/bin/aticonfig
[05:14] <eobanb> mrnicksgirl, you could try re-downloading the disk image, using a different app to burn the image, using a different drive, or different media
[05:14] <JaGWiRE3> the ati instructions say to run it to configure driver
[05:14] <Managu> amonroy: shouldn't be too painful.  In Synaptic, select purge next to the openssh package; then apply.  Now select install next to the openssh package; apply
[05:14] <eobanb> and see if that helps.
[05:14] <mrnicksgirl> eobanb ... hehe.. what is it NOT ??? ... hmm... I'll try another program.
[05:14] <JaGWiRE3> but i don't know how to run it :|
[05:14] <eobanb> mrnicksgirl, it's not a problem with ubuntu itself
[05:14] <amonroy> ok, i'll try that.   I'm lookin' for a good book.
[05:17] <JaGWiRE3> ugh, what do I do now?
[05:18] <Managu> petdance: Where The Sidewalk Ends, by Shel Silverstein
[05:18] <IdleOne> petdance>  the Bible?
[05:18] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, log in and run "telinit 3".   I was under the impression that you're trying to install the ATI X server
[05:19] <JaGWiRE3> anyway mangu, i'm back in there, what am i doing
[05:19] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, have you already completed that step?
[05:19] <JaGWiRE3> no, I just installed ati drivers
[05:19] <JaGWiRE3> via the gui installer they gave me
[05:19] <JaGWiRE3> .run file
[05:19] <Madpilot> petdance, that's a fairly high-end book, not really for end users - or at least, there are far better books for folks who're just end users
[05:19] <JaGWiRE3> now I need to run aticonfig
[05:19] <antibus> re: question: when i type "localhost" in my web browser.. it takes me to <IP_ADDRESS>... my own comp, is there a way to make another name like... "config" that will point to localhost/config/configfile.php              i asked before but i got disced.. not sure if anyone answered
[05:19] <IdleOne> JaGWiRE3>  theres alot of songs and poems that use that sort of language but we still dont use that language here :)
[05:19] <JaGWiRE3> according to there instructions
[05:20] <JaGWiRE3> yes idle, I apologize
[05:20] <JaGWiRE3> sorry :)
[05:20] <IdleOne> no problem dude
[05:20] <jerrod> managu: hey, thanx for the help i think i got it now
[05:20] <petdance> Madpilot: Great, that's what I want.
[05:20] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, ok.  If you're back in the graphics mode, then try "sudo /(path)/aticonfig"
[05:20] <Managu> jerrod: cool, hope it's all working =)
[05:20] <Madpilot> petdance, yeah, if you want to get into Debian packages & such, it's probably the book to get
[05:20] <JaGWiRE3> roger that maungu
[05:20] <JaGWiRE3> wish my book running linux would arrive laready
[05:20] <petdance> That's exactly what I'm looking for
[05:20] <JaGWiRE3> but they don't ship sat and sun
[05:20] <JaGWiRE3> so instead I have to bug you guys :P
[05:20] <petdance> I wanna know my package stuff.
[05:21] <Madpilot> petdance, OK, then have fun with it - it looks really good, just not stuff I need for myself
[05:22] <Managu> antibus: there probably is.  But, unless you're trying to set something up for a bunch of people, it's likely not worth the trouble
[05:22] <danny_osl> I'm having problems with my intel integrated graphics card (should be a gma900).  in /var/log/Xorg.0.log I see that direct rendering is enabled, but running glxinfo says that it is not
[05:23] <blrich> can somebody help? trying to get pygtk working. installed python-gtk2 (which put in python2.4.-gtk2) but when i go into python and 'import gtk' it complains and crashes out. something about trying to access X/xlib. installed python-xlib, problem still happens. anyone have any ideas?
[05:23] <JaGWiRE3> sudo /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial
[05:23] <antibus> Managu, true
[05:23] <JaGWiRE3> gives me this:
[05:23] <blrich> i've searched the net, and can find nobody else with a similar problem, so it seems really weird. i am on kubuntu, could this be it, something blocking gnome/gtk things from working?
[05:23] <JaGWiRE3> error whiel loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[05:23] <Managu> antibus: the first thing that comes to mind is to set up a few extra names in /etc/hosts, and use apache virtual servers
[05:24] <Managu> antibus: err, apache virtual hosts
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> okay, mangu
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> ati says : #  Launch the Terminal Application/Window and run  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial to configure the driver.
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> what exactly do I type in console?
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> i'm stupid, sorry.
[05:24] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, Managu (2 A's)
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> ah, my mistake
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> i should just do Man and then tab
[05:24] <JaGWiRE3> Managu :P
[05:25] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, errm, ok.  How bout this: sudo ldconfig
[05:25] <JaGWiRE3> okay
[05:25] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, and then try "aticonfig" again
[05:25] <JaGWiRE3> done
[05:25] <JaGWiRE3> wait, what do you mean aticonfig?
[05:26] <JaGWiRE3> i typed /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig -inital and got same response as before
[05:26] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, hrmm, I see
[05:26] <danny_osl> another question: being new to ubuntu, I noticed I'm running kernel 2.6.12-*, but the most recent kernel-source package I can find is 2.6.11.  how can i recompile the current kernel?
[05:26] <crimsun> danny_osl: linux-source-2.6.12
[05:26] <axisys> looking for steps.. take a music from CD.. make it ringtone format
[05:26] <crimsun> danny_osl: we don't use the kernel-* naming scheme, we use linux-* instead
[05:26] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, being that I'm using a NVidia card, I'm sort of just guessing here.  What did you do to install the X drivers?
[05:26] <axisys> i can then send it as an attachment using sms/email to my phone
[05:27] <JaGWiRE3> ugh
[05:27] <eobanb> axisys, it depends on your model of phone and your carrier.
[05:27] <JaGWiRE3> here, want the ati link?
[05:27] <axisys> t-mobile w/ nokia
[05:27] <JaGWiRE3> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[05:27] <JaGWiRE3> if you don't get directly to their page, it's under the ati instructions
[05:27] <eobanb> axisys, uhhh what sort of nokia? do you have a usb cable or does it have bluetooth or anything?>
[05:28] <axisys> no.. i will use sms
[05:28] <eobanb> okay.
[05:28] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, ok, I might as well peek
[05:28] <danny_osl> crimsun: so linux-2.6.12 will give me the source I want?
[05:28] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, to install the drivers, I just ran a .run
[05:28] <kjdis> Anyone know why I cannot unselect Video4Linux in my kernel config when I have made sure all children menu items are disabled?
[05:28] <eobanb> well i guess find some online mms service, axisys
[05:28] <danny_osl> er, linux-source I mean
[05:28] <JaGWiRE3> and did the gui installer (really basic)
[05:28] <axisys> i need to find out how to make a CD music to rington format
[05:28] <crimsun> danny_osl: linux-source-2.6.12
[05:28] <danny_osl> thanks
[05:28] <JaGWiRE3> tghen they say what i copy and pasted
[05:28] <danny_osl> maybe I'll find some graphics answers in there
[05:28] <eobanb> axisys, can the phone use mp3 files as ringtones?
[05:29] <axisys> not sure.. i guess that would be simpler
[05:29] <axisys> but not sure of the ringtone size limit
[05:29] <amonroy> Managu: ok, I uninstalled the ssh server from synaptic. In order to reinstall do I really need the CD?  I don't have it anymore, but it would be nice if I could just install ssh with an autodownload from the net... is there such an option?
[05:29] <eobanb> axisys, i'd google around for that.
[05:29] <Managu> amonroy: there is
[05:29] <axisys> eobanb: :-)
[05:29] <Managu> amonroy: you may need to pick your repositories
[05:29] <NickGarvey> amonroy: apt-get install sshd did it for me
[05:29] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, did you get to the page?
[05:29] <amonroy> Managu: thansk
[05:29] <Managu> JaGWire: cool.
[05:29] <NickGarvey> I have universe and multiverse enabled though
[05:29] <dampjam> amonroy: modify apt.conf and comment out the cd line, then run apt-get update
[05:30] <JaGWiRE3> lol damn i just want to get this working :S
[05:30] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, there's a lot of documentation there
[05:30] <jnev> does anybody know if dapper is stable enough to upgrade to?
[05:30] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, sec
[05:31] <Madpilot> !tell amonroy about ssh
[05:31] <amonroy> dampjam: where is apt.conf?
[05:31] <Managu> Jagwire, for instance: "If the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver was installed using either the Automatic or Custom options, then do the following: (1) Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the /usr/share/fglrx folder. (2) With super user permissions, enter the command "sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh" "
[05:31] <IdleOne> jnev>  it will be reased mid april
[05:31] <IdleOne> !tell jnev  about flight4
[05:31] <dampjam> amonroy: I meant /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <JaGWiRE3> lol huh mangu?
[05:32] <dampjam> I'm trying to build a program that has instructions for building on redhat and says I need to have glibc-devel and libuuid-devel to get the proper header files... I know I can do apt-get source libuuid, but is there a good way to sources so their headers are included by default?
[05:32] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, hrmm, maybe that's the wrong line
[05:32] <JaGWiRE3> i mean Managu
[05:32] <JaGWiRE3> the part i'm stuck at is the top (non custom driver installation)
[05:32] <JaGWiRE3> if you look at the last ss, it says something about running fglrxconfig
[05:32] <JaGWiRE3> and then below it is some more junk
[05:32] <JaGWiRE3> no idea what tto do there
[05:32] <suture> How do I get rid of a window border?
[05:33] <petdance> book ordered.  Thanks
[05:33] <JaGWiRE3> petdance, what book?
[05:33] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, well, have you tried running fglrxconfig?  ("sudo fglrxconfig"
[05:33] <JaGWiRE3> yeah
[05:33] <JaGWiRE3> i just uninstalled flgrx
[05:33] <JaGWiRE3> or whatever, as it stated
[05:33] <crimsun> dampjam: if you need devel packages for glibc and libuuid, you don't need libuuid source
[05:34] <dampjam> crimsum: then how do I install the devel packages?
[05:34] <amonroy> Managu, dampjam : i commented out the cd line in sources.list, but apt-get install openssh-server returns an error: Package not available (...)
[05:34] <crimsun> dampjam: just install build-essential and uuid-dev
[05:34] <Madpilot> !tell JaGWiRE3 about ente
[05:34] <Madpilot> !tell JaGWiRE3 about enter
[05:34] <amonroy> am I just missing the right repositories?
[05:34] <amonroy> if so, what are those repos and where should I add them?
[05:34] <petdance> "the debian system/concepts and techniques", martin f. krafft
[05:35] <IdleOne> !repos
[05:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:35] <dampjam> thank
[05:35] <dampjam> *thanks
[05:35] <Managu> amonroy, I'd suggest opening synaptic and selecting the "repositories" option
[05:35] <mrnicksgirl> my burn process failed... used another drive (external burner) and different program ... booo hooo :(
[05:35] <danny_osl> how does one check what package a file can be found in?  for example, if I'm missing some files, how can I determine what package I need to install to get it?
[05:35] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, I just installed fglrx as what yo upasted
[05:35] <JaGWiRE3> not sure what to do now, sudo fglrxconfig brings nothing
[05:35] <oklinux> how do I mount a slave hard drive ?
[05:35] <crimsun> danny_osl: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <Managu> amonroy: settings -> repositories, even
[05:36] <JaGWiRE3> oh crap
[05:36] <JaGWiRE3> i wasn't suposed to uninstall that
[05:36] <IdleOne> danny_osl>  /msg ubotu  info filename
[05:36] <JaGWiRE3> damn i'm stupid as hell, eh
[05:36] <JaGWiRE3> now i'm going to try rew-installing it i guess
[05:36] <Managu> jagwire3: nope, my paste was wrong.  Run the installer again
[05:36] <Managu> jagwire3: sorry
[05:36] <amonroy> Managu: actually when I open synaptic I get a warning "W: Couldn't stat source package list http:/us.archive.ubuntu.com ...." but let me try your suggestion anyway
[05:36] <JaGWiRE3> no probably Managu
[05:36] <oklinux> trappist are you here ?
[05:37] <dunefan> evening!
[05:37] <IdleOne> !tell amonroy  about repos
[05:37] <NickGarvey> hello dunefan
[05:37] <JaGWiRE3> k
[05:37] <IdleOne> heya dunefan
[05:37] <JaGWiRE3> i just finished running the installer
[05:37] <danny_osl> I was hoping for a command-line ability
[05:37] <JaGWiRE3> it says run aticonfig in a console window again
[05:37] <JaGWiRE3> .. what now? :P
[05:38] <Managu> jagwire3: let's try "sudo fglxconfig"
[05:38] <dunefan> a question.....how do you install KDE in Ubuntu
[05:38] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, "sudo fglrxconfig" even
[05:39] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, that command does nothing
[05:39] <JaGWiRE3> and for the recommend, my ati installer doesn't show whats in the screenshots
[05:39] <JaGWiRE3> it says NOTHING about fglrxconfig, it says aticonfig instead of that
[05:39] <NickGarvey> dunefan: kubuntu
[05:39] <dunefan> lol
[05:39] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, errm, when you say it does nothing -- do you get any errors?
[05:39] <dunefan> besides that
[05:40] <NickGarvey> I use command line, no gui for me
[05:40] <cyphase> where are the Notes stored that you add to files via the properties window?
[05:40] <JaGWiRE3> yeah Managu
[05:40] <fami> Hi. Where can i find lastest-ubuntu.iso?
[05:40] <JaGWiRE3> i get :
[05:40] <mattwestm> where is a release schedule?
[05:40] <Xenguy> !tell dunefan about kde
[05:40] <nalioth> fami: www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:41] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, ok, and this time, when you try running the suggested aticonfig command, what happens?
[05:41] <NickGarvey> !tell NickGarvey about kde
[05:41] <JaGWiRE3> same error
[05:41] <fami> nalioth: i meant snapshot
[05:41] <nalioth> mattwestm: releases occur every april and octoboer
[05:41] <JaGWiRE3> error while loading shared libraries, etc
[05:41] <nalioth> fami: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:41] <axisys> how do i convert ogg format to mp3?
[05:41] <axisys> may be with mplayer.. but how?
[05:42] <NickGarvey> axisys: mp3 is protected by thompson, its hard to find converts
[05:42] <NickGarvey> ers*
[05:42] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, I jsut cded into /usr/x11r6/bin and did ls, and I do see the aticonfig file
[05:42] <JaGWiRE3> the queston is how to run it?
[05:42] <fami> nalioth: which one?
[05:42] <Managu> jagwire3: just type "aticonfig" in a terminal window
[05:42] <fami> i want install it on HDD
[05:42] <fami> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ ?
[05:42] <nalioth> fami: the latest release is code-named "dapper" find a daily live or a daily install image
[05:42] <Managu> jagwire3, or rather "aticonfig --initial" if that what's suggested
[05:42] <JaGWiRE3> doesn't work Managu
[05:43] <JaGWiRE3> neither
[05:43] <JaGWiRE3> i get command not found
[05:43] <Managu> jagwire3: case is important, be sure you typed in the case correctly
[05:43] <JaGWiRE3> and if I sudo it, i get error whiel loading shared lbiraries: libfglrx_pp.so.l : cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[05:43] <JaGWiRE3> i did
[05:43] <kditty> ive got a really quick question anyone can probably help me with... while downloading, or copying files from backup cds from my windows disk, what folder do i place them in?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> How to kill and respawn a virtual terminal (getty)?
[05:43] <cyphase> What does everyone think about having a little applet that pops up notifications that concern all ubuntu users?
[05:43] <kditty> i tried one folder and it said right access not granted or something
[05:43] <cyphase> for example..
[05:44] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, how bout "/usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial"
[05:44] <cyphase> nvm
[05:44] <cyphase> what am i thinking?
[05:44] <NickGarvey> axisys: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/mencoder.html
[05:44] <axisys> NickGarvey: so i can't convert ogg to mp3?
[05:44] <Petey123434> i just tried to upgrade to dapper, my computer froze, and when i rebooted i got a segmentation fault and it said /dev/sda1 does not exist ...........................???
[05:44] <NickGarvey> axisys: that might be what you are looking for after a skim over
[05:44] <cyphase> axisys, you can
[05:44] <JaGWiRE3> mopr Managu
[05:44] <winston> Does anyone here use ubuntu on an apple power pc?
[05:44] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, sorry, don't know "mopr"
[05:44] <LuisBG> winston, I do
[05:44] <cyphase> axisys, oh, with mencoder
[05:44] <JaGWiRE3> i get : "/usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.l: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[05:44] <axisys> cyphase: using encoder like NickGarvey showing?
[05:45] <cyphase> axisys, i don't know
[05:45] <winston> LuisBG I have a problem booting when I'm not jacked into the net
[05:45] <axisys> cyphase: any other ways?
[05:45] <cyphase> axisys, i'd probably just use audacity
[05:45] <LuisBG> winston, wich problem?
[05:45] <axisys> let me try that
[05:45] <winston> I can only log in using terminal
[05:45] <kditty> can anyone answer that?
[05:45] <JaGWiRE3> god damn this is a load of bs
[05:45] <winston> the gnome wont boot up
[05:45] <kditty> would i just move the files from cd-rom to /home or what?
[05:45] <Petey123434> i just tried to upgrade to dapper, my computer froze, and when i rebooted i got a segmentation fault and it said /dev/sda1 does not exist ...........................???
[05:45] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, sorry, I'm out of ideas
[05:46] <winston> ie I get the "brown" screen but no window showing the booting of gnome
[05:46] <nalioth> Petey123434: please don't repeat
[05:46] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, you have read all the steps?
[05:46] <JaGWiRE3> :p
[05:46] <winston> no menus or bars or anything of that sort
[05:46] <Petey123434> nalioth, do you have any idea what the problem is?
[05:46] <Madpilot> Petey123434, for Dapper questions, try #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <winston> It happens regularly ie every time I'm not plugged into the adsl line
[05:46] <nalioth> Petey123434: i do not, but repeating once a minute isnt gonna bring anyone into the channel who does know any quicker
[05:47] <theskunk> nalioth, amen
[05:47] <JaGWiRE3> how woudl I go upon running fglrxconfig?
[05:47] <NickGarvey> audacity worked like a charm for me
[05:47] <Xenguy> kditty: you should store your data in your 'home' directory...
[05:47] <LuisBG> winston, that is really weird...if you wait long enough does it enter, might be waiting to sincronize clock with ntp or something like that
[05:47] <kditty> thanks
[05:47] <Xenguy> kditty: so /home/username
[05:47] <Managu> JaGWiRE3, I know that ATI vid cards are a pain to get running.  If it's any help, it appears there's a ubuntu package
[05:47] <kditty> /home/kditty/mp3s something like that?
[05:47] <winston> Nah it fails to synchronize the clock prior to that... and it never boots
[05:47] <Petey123434> Managu, actually they are easy to get running
[05:47] <winston> just stays there
[05:48] <Managu> Ahh, a volunteer!
[05:48] <fami> nalioth: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/dapper-install-i386.iso ?
[05:48] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, how would I go upon using that?
[05:48] <LuisBG> winston, have no clue sorry
[05:48] <Managu> Petey123434, think you can take over JaGWiRE3's problems?
[05:48] <Xenguy> kditty: create a suitable directory structure under /home/kditty
[05:48] <winston> if I boot with failsafe terminal I can launch gnome-wm and get some progs to run
[05:48] <Petey123434> Managu, i have my own
[05:48] <JaGWiRE3> Managu, where do I get ubuntus ati drivers?
[05:48] <winston> well thanks anyways-- ubuntu on a G3 is pretty hard to get debugging on !
[05:48] <Managu> !tell JaGWiRE3 about ati
[05:48] <IdleOne> !ati
[05:48] <NickGarvey> JaGWiRE3: ati had them on their website I thought
[05:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:48] <nalioth> fami: that is not the latest snapshot, but it is the latest milestone
[05:49] <RichardC> anyone know of a good tutorial for customizing your kernel?
[05:49] <Xenguy> kditty: linux has a specific directory structure with corresponding permissions
[05:49] <LuisBG> RichardC, search for linux kernel in the tldp
[05:49] <moew> Hello. I have a problem with Eclipse on Ubuntu. It runs excruciatingly slow, I can't really edit any files, b/c when I start typing I get huge pauses between response times. I'm convinced that it has something to do with Java. My computer is fast enough it's like a Pentium 1.8 w/1 GB of RAM. So it's all good there. I tried to update my Java to 1.5 via instructions on the net (http://jroller.com/page/triplem74?entry=insta
[05:50] <LuisBG> RichardC, the linux documentation project
[05:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell moew about javadebs
[05:50] <axisys> audacity seems to be the easiest way to convert
[05:50] <Petey123434> axisys, gnormalize is better
[05:50] <Managu> moew: Eclipse on ubuntu is a bit slow -- but you might try downloading the gcj-compiled version of eclipse.  It should be a bit more managable
[05:50] <fami> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso ; or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20060310/dapper-install-i386.iso
[05:50] <NickGarvey> axisys: yeah it worked very easily for me, but it would be hard to do several at once
[05:51] <nalioth> fami: they are the same thing
[05:51] <fami> thanks nalioth
[05:51] <moew> Managu: Is this java debs that nalioth is talking about?
[05:51] <Managu> moew: I haven't looked at nalioth's suggestion.  Lemme poke ubotu
[05:52] <fami> nalioth: has for i686 around?
[05:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Managu about javadebs
[05:52] <moew> nalioth: So do I add this to my sources.list?
[05:52] <nalioth> fami: you may choose a 686 kernel once you get the base system installed
[05:52] <Managu> thanks nalioth, but I can poke the bot myself =p
[05:52] <nalioth> moew: you do not, just grab the deb direct
[05:53] <Jivenix> i just did a dist-upgrade
[05:53] <Jivenix> and now when i boot up, i dont get my desktop no more
[05:54] <Jivenix> just a blank screen
[05:54] <Jivenix> i can get a terminal because i have a hot key
[05:54] <fami> thanks nalioth ...need two hours to download dapper-install-i386.iso
[05:54] <Jivenix> thats how i got in here
[05:54] <moew> nalioth: I already downloaded java 1.5 and made a fake deb or wtvr using instructions at this url: http://jroller.com/page/triplem74?entry=install_java_jdk_1_5
[05:55] <amonroy> ok guys, I removed and installed openssh-server. I rebooted but I am still unable to ssh to my machine. I keep getting the same warning: "Warning: Kerberos authentication disabled in SUID client."
[05:55] <moew> Is that the same thing?
[05:55] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[05:55] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[05:55] <perceptualchaos> hey Ubuntu! I have a quick question which probably gets asked a lot... I've set up an Apache server and tested it, seems to be running fine and I want to make it start up automatically at boot time instead of using the /etc/init.d/apache2 start command
[05:55] <perceptualchaos> what files do I need to link to do this?
[05:56] <perceptualchaos> I set it up as per the FAQ on the wiki
[05:56] <perceptualchaos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:56] <nalioth> moew: i'm not sure, our wiki has instructions (but we also packaged it for y'all)
[05:57] <NickGarvey> perceptualchaos: did you apt-get apache or build it
[05:57] <Managu> amonroy: well, easy solution's gone.  Try "ssh -v -v", and see how far it gets
[05:57] <Grout58> u might wanna try lighttp
[05:58] <Jivenix> help!
[05:58] <Jivenix> i'm lost and i dont know what to do
[05:58] <Jivenix> there's no desktop and i'm affraid
[05:58] <perceptualchaos> ahhh I'm pretty sure I used apt-get but its been a few hours since I did that heh
[05:58] <ubuntu> hi.. need some help in mounting an ntfs partition
[05:58] <amonroy> Managu: it starts with SSH Version 1.2.27ncsp3 [alpha-dec-osf4.0] , protocol version 1.5.
[05:58] <nalioth> Jivenix: did it tell you about any errors?
[05:58] <Jivenix> no
[05:58] <Jivenix> just goes to an empty screen after logging in
[05:59] <amonroy> then a few other lines, then the warning, then a few more lines
[05:59] <nalioth> Jivenix: this channel needs more info to help you
[05:59] <Managu> amonroy: oh my
[05:59] <amonroy> then Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> port 22
[05:59] <Jivenix> ok, let me start from the beginning
[05:59] <amonroy> then time out
[05:59] <Jivenix> i was sitting on the crapper playing some trivia on irc, when my battery died
[05:59] <Managu> amonroy: could you try ssh'ing from the ubuntu box to itself?
[05:59] <Jivenix> i was doing an atp-get dist-upgrade
[05:59] <NickGarvey> perceptualchaos: if you used apt-get it starts on boot all the way
[05:59] <NickGarvey> on its own* not all the way
[05:59] <amonroy> Managu: good question, it works to ssh localhost
[05:59] <Jivenix> then when i started up again, i got all the way to the login screen and logged in, but then got a blank desktop
[06:00] <moew> nalioth: So if I download this Java, it'll be automatically used or do I have to switch java compilers or something?
[06:00] <Managu> amonroy: gotcha.  Have any other versions of ssh on the alpha box?
[06:00] <IdleOne> !tell meo about java
[06:00] <nalioth> moew: it should automatically be used, if not come back and we'll tell ya some more secrets, lol
[06:00] <ubuntu> hi, how do i configure ubuntu to use my laptop's CPU at max frequency? i have a 2.1ghz and it's running at 800mhz right now
[06:00] <leppards> hi i am logged on my laptop via the live cd and am trying to mount my ntfs partition using the mount command
[06:00] <IdleOne> !tell moew about java
[06:00] <nalioth> Jivenix: no errors? no nothing?
[06:01] <perceptualchaos> NickGarvey: thanks, its not starting - do you know where I can look for an error log?
[06:01] <amonroy> no, but I am on windows and I have SecureCRT
[06:01] <Jivenix> nope
[06:01] <Jivenix> no messages
[06:01] <Jivenix> just a blank desktop screen
[06:01] <leppards> can some one tell me what options do i pass in to mount the ntfs partition in read write mode
[06:01] <Jivenix> its a brown screen, if that helps at all
[06:01] <Managu> secureCRT gave you the "alpha-dec" etc line?
[06:01] <Hysty> i have a small problem, i have moved a dvddrive running as slave to running as master and now dvd's wont play any suggestions?
[06:01] <IdleOne> leppards>  ntfs is read only
[06:02] <amonroy> Managu: no, i trie dthat from an alpha server I have access to...
[06:02] <perceptualchaos> yeah leppards, I just did this last night
[06:02] <amonroy> you can try to ssh and see what you get
[06:02] <perceptualchaos> you need to reformat it as fat32 if you want to write to it
[06:02] <amonroy> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:02] <Managu> amonroy if you like
[06:02] <perceptualchaos> then edit /etc/fstab
[06:02] <NickGarvey> /var/log/apache2/error.log
[06:02] <leppards> ohhh ok
[06:02] <moew> IdleOne: Thank you, I tried the method listed in the bot, but it still didn't work :( My eclipse was still slow. Thanks tho :)
[06:02] <nalioth> Jivenix: can you try "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade" for us ?
[06:02] <leppards> i guess then I will just work off of the live cd
[06:02] <Jivenix> ok
[06:02] <leppards> thanks for the pointer
[06:02] <Jivenix> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:03] <axisys> just found out audacity uses same lamemp3 lib like mencoder.. so either is good
[06:03] <Kenshin123> is there anyway to get my stupid speedstep cpu to run at max speed in ubuntu?
[06:03] <nalioth> Jivenix: i assume you had no problems before the upgrade?
[06:03] <Jivenix> correct
[06:03] <Jivenix> it was sweet as a southern pie
[06:04] <NickGarvey> mmmm pie
[06:04] <nalioth> Jivenix: and you upgraded to what?
[06:04] <IdleOne> cherry pie?
[06:04] <Jivenix> dapper
[06:04] <Jivenix> well, i was already in dapper
[06:04] <Jivenix> but i do that dist-ugprade thing every once a day or so
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> What's a good tool for stripping html to plain text?
[06:04] <nalioth> Jivenix: AH, you need to be in #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <Jivenix> to get the latest greatest
[06:04] <Jivenix> i'm in there already
[06:04] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: unhtml
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Sweet.
[06:04] <Jivenix> they said its the second time in the last ten minutes this has happened to someone
[06:04] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: or lynx -dump
[06:04] <nalioth> Jivenix: well, that is where the dapper questions are asked and answered
[06:04] <Managu> amonroy: I can't see <IP_ADDRESS> from here
[06:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: or links -dump
[06:05] <Xenguy> :-)
[06:05] <nalioth> Jivenix: then i'd wait until tomorrow and upgrade again
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Pretty much equal in functionality?
[06:05] <Jivenix> ok
[06:05] <Jivenix> i hope i can still surf pron
[06:05] <nalioth> Jivenix: use lynx
[06:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: see what you think (mostly I expect - depends on the original document)
[06:05] <Jivenix> lol
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Gaim log.  Pretty simple.
[06:05] <elkbuntu> nalioth, there was a second similar happened to Petey123434, he's in +1
[06:06] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: have fun :-)
[06:06] <nalioth> elkbuntu: i'm sure it'd happen to me too, if i were running dapper (dapper is broken, which is why it's not on my production machine)
[06:06] <Managu> amonroy: looks to me like that box is behind a firewall that doesn't want to talk to me
[06:06] <Petey123434> can i reinstall ubuntu from a dapper install cd?
[06:07] <Petey123434> or should i just reinstall using breezy
[06:07] <nalioth> Petey123434: if you're patient, you'll be sorted tomorrow
[06:07] <elkbuntu> nalioth, i am talking to you from a quite functional dapper. the death must have occurred in the past 4 hours or so, because i updated about that time ago
[06:07] <Petey123434> nalioth, they can save my install ?
[06:07] <nalioth> all of you dapper discussers, talk in #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <Toma-> flight5 tomorrow nalioth ?
[06:07] <amonroy> oh really, hmm that's intresting...
[06:07] <perceptualchaos> thanks nickgarvey, I'm going to reboot and try something
[06:07] <nalioth> #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[06:07] <yoyoma> on which version of ubuntu is it easier to install XGL (i got a nvidia fx card) ???
[06:08] <nalioth> yoyoma: join #ubuntu+1
[06:09] <Managu> amonroy: from here port 22 is neither open nor closed, at least, so far as nmap is concerned
[06:09] <amonroy> weird, i wonder if the network guys changed something...
[06:09] <amonroy> but that could not be the cause of the problem, could it?
[06:10] <Managu> amonroy: well, I don't know.  You've said that you were able to ssh into the ubuntu box before.  From where?
[06:10] <amonroy> from the local network actually
[06:10] <IdleOne> amonroy>  if the report isnt responding . yup it would be a problem
[06:10] <IdleOne> report=port
[06:11] <IdleOne> heh
[06:11] <cyphase> is Network Manager in Dapper main?
[06:11] <amonroy> well, i guess i will have to talk to the network guys... ugh
[06:11] <IdleOne> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[06:11] <Managu> amonroy: See, I suspect the reason the alpha box isn't connecting is that it's trying to talk SSH v1.5, and your sshd on the ubuntu box is configured to ignore that
[06:12] <leogibson>  ok dapper totally pwned my system
[06:12] <Managu> amonroy: I can't speak to the windows box.    Are you IRC'ing from the ubuntu box?
[06:15] <amonroy> nope
[06:15] <neoginn> i gota question, i am trying to write a database using OpenOffice Base, but it wont let me save a table. is that a bug?
[06:15] <Managu> amonroy: running firestarter on it by any chance?
[06:15] <perceptualchaos> thanks for your help, apache starts on boot now :D
[06:15] <ubuntu> hey guys
[06:15] <IdleOne> hey
[06:15] <neoginn> yo
[06:15] <ubuntu> I am trying to back up a whole windows hdd
[06:16] <amonroy> if it doesn't come by default probably not
[06:16] <amonroy> should i apt-get it?
[06:16] <lomtik> I have a question... I am insdtalling a program with .sh extension to a partition with some free space; ubuntu extracts it and there's not enough space. I think I am lacking about 200Mb. Is there a way to change the temporary extraction directory to another partition/folder? I've run 'apt-get clean' and deleted all already downloaded packages
[06:16] <Managu> amonroy no, no.  It _does_ come by default, though I don't think it's run by default
[06:16] <ubuntu> so i though i could just throw an ubuntu cd in
[06:16] <ubuntu> and back up the win hdd to an external usb hdd
[06:16] <ubuntu> how exactally can i do this?
[06:17] <ubuntu> first i need to mount the hdd inside the pc
[06:17] <Managu> amonroy: it's a firewall setup tool, and I'm wondering if you happen to have a firewall rule set on the ubuntu box that's blocking incoming traffic on port 22
[06:18] <amonroy> how can i check?
[06:18] <RichardC> im recompiling my kernel. since i have an amd athlon xp 3800, i should choose athlon/duron/k7 as my processor family, right?
[06:18] <Managu> amonroy well, we could start with "sudo iptables -L" and post it to pastebin.com
[06:18] <iceman> how can i kill amarok  tried  killall amarok .. stil traped on app bar as though running
[06:19] <ubuntux> how do i make permissions for a user that he can execute, read and write the folder /etc?
[06:19] <Managu> ubuntux: any user, or one particular user?
[06:19] <ubuntux> Managu, a particular user
[06:20] <axisys> i stripped the song to get only middle 29 secs which is 455K.. might be too big for ringtone
[06:20] <axisys> any thoughts?
[06:20] <AlexandreGP> iceman, try kill -9 PID, where PID is the process identify
[06:20] <jbroome> axisys: drop the bitrate
[06:20] <Managu> ubuntux: Not sure all the specifics, but, an outline might be the follows:  Create a new group "etcers" or some such.  Add your user, to it.  Change the group of etc to "etcers", and then sudo chmod +070 /etc
[06:20] <Jivenix> it fixed!
[06:20] <lomtik> I have a question... I am insdtalling a program with .sh extension to a partition with some free space; ubuntu extracts it and there's not enough space. I think I am lacking about 200Mb. Is there a way to change the temporary extraction directory to another partition/folder? I've run 'apt-get clean' and deleted all already downloaded packages
[06:20] <Kr4t05> I'm having a compile error while trying to compile Liveice404. Error output ---> http://pastebin.com/595824
[06:20] <iceman> AlexandreGP how to list processes
[06:21] <jerrod> help with .rars?
[06:21] <lomtik> I dont know what to delete to free up the space
[06:21] <Managu> jerrod: tried synaptic?
[06:21] <tritium> why are you compiling liveice rather than using the binary package, Kr4t05?
[06:21] <nalioth> jerrod: ask a real question
[06:21] <AlexandreGP> iceman ps aux | grep amarok
[06:21] <jerrod> naloith: it was kinda implied
[06:21] <Kr4t05> tritium: liveice is in the repos?
[06:21] <ubuntux> Managu, thx :)
[06:21] <nalioth> jerrod: not really, you can do a lot with rars.
[06:21] <thompa> xfce on dapper is very nice
[06:22] <axisys> jbroome: let me try
[06:22] <iceman> iceman    8487  0.0  0.0   3060   756 pts/0    S+   23:21   0:00 grep amorok
[06:22] <Managu> ubuntux: np, hope the idea helps
[06:22] <tritium> Kr4t05: yes
[06:22] <tritium> !info liveice
[06:22] <iceman> dont get it  ? how to read that
[06:22] <ubotu> liveice: (Live audio streaming application), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 1.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:22] <Kr4t05> tritium: You just saved my a ton of anger.
[06:22] <tritium> Kr4t05: I'm glad :)
[06:23] <iceman> AlexandreGP how do i read that .. for process >
[06:23] <Kr4t05> Thank you.
[06:23] <IdleOne> Kr4t05>  check repos from now on before compiling :)
[06:23] <tritium> Kr4t05: don't forget to enable the multiverse repo, and update your package listing, if you haven't done so already :)
[06:23] <GTroy> anyone hellp me find a .deb?
[06:23] <GTroy> mirror or something?
[06:24] <IdleOne> GTroy>  what you looking for?
[06:24] <GTroy> xserver-xorg-driver-mga_6.8.2-77_i386.deb
[06:24] <GTroy> I can't find it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:24] <danny_osl> I'm very confused.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows direct rendering starting, xorg.conf has dri modes enabled, glxinfo shows direct rendering off.  has anyone seen this before?
[06:24] <wastrel> blah
[06:25] <AlexandreGP> iceman execute ps aux  and find by amarok
[06:25] <GTroy> IdleOne: any ideas?
[06:25] <IdleOne> GTroy>  none
[06:25] <GTroy> it's from 5.10
[06:25] <jbroome> i am idea-less
[06:25] <GTroy> where do you usually go to find old debs?
[06:25] <tritium> pgrep amarok
[06:25] <IdleOne> info xserver-xorg-driver-mga_6.8.2-77_i386.deb
[06:25] <IdleOne> ubotu Package 'xserver-xorg-driver-mga_6.8.2-77_i386.deb' does not exist.
[06:25] <ubotu> IdleOne: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:25] <jerrod> Managu: its a .rar file and i want to extract it, archive manager does support .rar, what do i do?
[06:25] <jbroome> jerrod: you need unrar
[06:25] <wastrel> danny_osl:  dri isn't starting.  - trust your glxinfo.  somethings not configured properly
[06:25] <GTroy> jerrod: sudo apt-get install rar
[06:25] <jetscreamer> rar -x
[06:26] <danny_osl> I do trust glxinfo
[06:26] <danny_osl> I just can't seem to find any debugging that's helping me :-)
[06:26] <jerrod> grassy ass!
[06:26] <danny_osl> are there any X graphics setup GUI tools in ubuntu?
[06:26] <wastrel> danny_osl:  what card?
[06:26] <nalioth> jerrod: install unrar-nonfree
[06:26] <danny_osl> intel integrated, gma900
[06:26] <danny_osl> "i915" dri
[06:26] <iceman> AlexandreGP thanks .. got it killed at last ...
[06:26] <nalioth> danny_osl: none that i know of
[06:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell danny_osl about xcfg
[06:27] <danny_osl> thanks
[06:27] <danny_osl> i'll give it a shot
[06:27] <wastrel> anyone happen to be expert with pymol?
[06:28] <jerrod> GTroy: thanx
[06:28] <axisys> jbroome: it shows AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400) when playing with mplayer
[06:28] <danny_osl> perfect.  I never got to configure it during install for some reason
[06:28] <danny_osl> thanks nalioth
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: So I want to do this to a bunch of files at once.  What syntax for unhtml to convert all .html in a directory to .txt with the same rest of the name?  Any idea?
[06:28] <danny_osl> will let you know what I find
[06:29] <axisys> jbroome: would u know how to change the 128 to lower using mplayer/mencoder?
[06:29] <danny_osl> tonyyarusso: rename
[06:29] <GTroy> jerrod: np
[06:29] <ardinary> how do i do a recursive chmod 777?
[06:29] <danny_osl> oh, for "unhtml", nm
[06:29] <wastrel> ardinary:  very carefully
[06:29] <GTroy> ardinary: not sure, but maybe you shuouldn't
[06:29] <ardinary> no no
[06:29] <nalioth> ardinary: be very careful recursively chmoddin, you can bork your system
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> danny_osl: np.  Understandable.
[06:29] <jbroome> axisys: i usually do that in audacity
[06:29] <ardinary> its just one directory!
[06:29] <ardinary> everythings 555
[06:29] <ardinary> and should be 777
[06:30] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: back - hi...
[06:30] <wastrel> ardinary:  chmod -R
[06:30] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: yes, you need a loop
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: How do I go about that?
[06:30] <suture> Is there any way to get rid of window borders in metacity?
[06:30] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: first back up the files...
[06:30] <ardinary> thanks wastrel :D
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: 'k.
[06:31] <Managu> suture: changing the theme can do a lot; not sure if it can get rid of the borders altogether
[06:32] <ardinary> how can i check if i borked my system?
[06:32] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: then try something like: for i in *html; do unhtml $i > $i.txt; done
[06:32] <wastrel> i think you can have 1px borders
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: What's i?
[06:32] <wastrel> my current metacity theme has 1px borders on the left & right
[06:32] <wastrel> i is a variable
[06:33] <Managu> ardinary: (JOKE) as nobody, rm -rf /
[06:33] <Managu> ardinary: if it works, you borked your system
[06:33] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: it's an arbitrary convention (index?); you can substitute any letter you want, as long as the rest are consistent
[06:33] <GTroy> hey guys how do you restart X?
[06:33] <suture> I mean like the bar where the title and buttons are
[06:33] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: er, the rest of the statement I mean
[06:33] <Kr4t05> How can I get LiveIce to play to a ShoutCast server?
[06:33] <axisys> jbroome: i change it in audacity and then want to play the new one and it does not play
[06:33] <ardinary> Managu, whats a vital file that should NOT be chmod'd 777?
[06:33] <Managu> GTroy: quick 'n dirty: ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:33] <Managu> ardinary: /etc/shadow
[06:34] <wastrel> ardinary:  what command did you use?
[06:34] <nalioth> ardinary: you'll find out quickly enough, believe me
[06:34] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: did I mention you need a backup of the files (my syntax is from memory :-)
[06:34] <ardinary> Managu, how do i see if its mode 777?
[06:34] <wastrel> ardinary:  ls -l
[06:34] <ardinary> wastrel, i did chmod 777 */*....
[06:34] <wastrel> heh ctrl-alt-backspace worked for him
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Yes, the backup step was well noted.  So does the i part substitute for anything then so it will do all of them?  (I need to learn more about scripting...)
[06:35] <ardinary> then i did your command
[06:35] <ardinary> for *
[06:35] <wastrel> you said only one dir
[06:35] <ardinary> yes but i was in it :P
[06:35] <ardinary> and i already changed it
[06:35] <wastrel> . is the current dir
[06:35] <Managu> wastrel heh, guess so.  Wonder if he knows what he was asking
[06:35] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: yeah, 'i' is like a variable
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Gotcha.
[06:35] <wastrel> but */* seems to work also
[06:35] <ardinary> yes
[06:35] <ardinary> i did *
[06:36] <ardinary> then */* then +/* to infinity
[06:36] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: anyhow, you have a backup, so why not give it a whirl? :-)
[06:36] <ardinary> but i wanted to be thorough so i did -R :D
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: On my way; just wanted to check the steps.
[06:36] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: fair enough
[06:37] <wastrel> ardinary:  chmod -R 777 .  would set everything in the current directory and all subdirectories to 777
[06:37] <wastrel> ardinary:  you are aware that 777 is read/write/execute ?  so anyone can write code to these files and run it.
[06:38] <ardinary> ok
[06:38] <nalioth> ardinary: depending on where you ran that command, you may have botched some of your systems permissions
[06:38] <Managu> wastrel: some people like to learn the hard way =D
[06:38] <ablyss> wastrel, seems to me -r would deny read access
[06:39] <ardinary> i made an untitled folder put some files in it and did it there
[06:39] <Managu> ardinary: there's next to nothing on your system that will fail to run if everything is 777.  But it makes it a lot easier for you to accidentally make mistakes.  Or if you allow other users on your system, possible for them to make "mistakes"
[06:39] <wastrel> ablyss:  anything starting with - is a cli flag.   [ugo] -[rwxa]   would be a permissions thingy.  -R is the recursive flag
[06:39] <ardinary> EVERYTHING IS NOT 777!
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Oh, one more bit: Do I actually have to save this in a sh file, or just throw it into bash directly?
[06:40] <ardinary> :D
[06:40] <ablyss> wastrel, so capital "R" is the key?
[06:40] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: either is possible, but most direct would be paste it to a command-line and go
[06:40] <eletido> is there a XChat script that I can use that automatically identifies me to NickServ??
[06:40] <wastrel> ablyss:   chmod -R a-r foo*     -R is a cli flag,  a-r is an argument
[06:41] <tritium> eletido: you don't even need a script...it's in the setup for servers/channels
[06:41] <Organs> Hey, um......I've got some questions about setting up Ubuntu because I need to install it over a different linux distro.
[06:41] <ablyss> wastrel, ah ha, guess i need to read up on chmod :-) ty
[06:41] <Xenguy> ablyss: man chmod (easy as that :-)
[06:42] <wastrel> ablyss:  actually you're right.  a is implied with  chmod -r, making -r a "turn off read"
[06:42] <eletido> tritium, thanks. i didnt see that before.
[06:42] <tritium> :)
[06:42] <ablyss> wastrel, uh oh.. not you're scaring me :P
[06:42] <Kr4t05> How can I get LiveIce to play to a ShoutCast server?
[06:42] <ablyss> not/now
[06:42] <markl> what is the process of getting a more recent version of alsa working on breezy
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: 'k, now I have all of my file names ending in .html.txt
[06:43] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: heheh, I knew you were going to say that ;-)
[06:43] <IdleOne> Kr4t05>  I dont know about it but it seems to me you would tell shoutcast to listen for liveice. shot in the dark
[06:43] <Finalhazard> Hello. I have a question about xscreensaver.
[06:43] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: what do you want them to be?
[06:44] <Kr4t05> IdleOne: ShoutCast .conf file doesn't mention liveice.
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Just .txt.  Also, they have <br/> at the end of every line, which isn't even valid html...
[06:44] <Finalhazard> Has anyone figured out how to make certain screensavers as visualizations in music players?
[06:44] <Finalhazard> Like for XMMS or anything?
[06:44] <IdleOne> Kr4t05>  like I said I dont know :/
[06:44] <Kr4t05> IdleOne: Unfortunatly, my host doesn't want to install the dependancies I need for icecast.
[06:44] <Organs> I could use some help installing Ubuntu....
[06:45] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: OK, so 2 issues...
[06:45] <IdleOne> Organs>  dualboot or stand alone?
[06:46] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: 1. I would have thought that unhtml would have cleared that tag; maybe you need to fine-tune? (else use an editor or sed to get rid of those...
[06:46] <Finalhazard> Reason I'm asking this is because I like xflame, but I'd like something similar to it for a visualization on XMMS.
 is xhtml isn't it?  i forget anymore
[06:46] <oklinux> hey can I dual boot with ubuntu ?
[06:46] <ablyss> yes oklinux
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Thing is, it's not html, so...
[06:46] <IdleOne> !tell oklinux  about dualboot
[06:46] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: 2. try either rename (cli) or krename (gui) to massage the filenames to just *.txt
[06:47] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: If it was me, I'd install krename and give that a go
[06:47] <oklinux> thankyou IdleOne
[06:47] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: that tag is xhtml AFAIK
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Ah.
[06:47] <IdleOne> oklinux>  no problem
[06:48] <newcomplexlife> i have problems with dapper
[06:48] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: I'm surprised that unhtml didn't handle it
[06:48] <IdleOne> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[06:48] <Managu> Ooh, is IdleOne the new bot we requested?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: It spit out a bunch of messages; let me see if I can get those.
[06:49] <IdleOne> bot?! that's me. yup
[06:49] <Managu> hehe
[06:49] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: what spit?
[06:49] <wastrel> mmm pie
[06:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi, i'm reinstalling breezy and i want to do partitioning right this time, is the best way to go about it to have like 10gb for / and like the rest for /home ?
[06:50] <jetscreamer> pie r not square
[06:50] <jetscreamer> pie are round
[06:50] <Organs> IdleOne, I'll be running dualboot (Ubuntu and Windows XP), but the problem is that I need to a) remove caOS and b) get a working download mirror
[06:50] <ablyss> CanYouHelpMePlz, i always put everything on one partition, mainly /
[06:51] <IdleOne> !tell Organs  about dualboot
[06:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ablyss, i hear that's not the best way to do it.
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: 'not: <br/>' lots of times.
[06:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> should i put /usr/ on it's own partition ?
[06:51] <IdleOne> Organs> download mirror for ubuntu?
[06:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> also should swap be a logical or primary partition.
[06:51] <tritium> CanYouHelpMePlz: it's up to you.  Everyone has different ideas on partitioning.
[06:51] <Organs> IdleOne, I generally know how to do the dualboot process (it's automatic, more or less), but I need a working mirror.
[06:51] <jetscreamer> if you don't know, put it all on one partition
[06:51] <Organs> When I do the advanced installation, the default US mirror dosn't work.
[06:51] <IdleOne> www.ubuntu.com should have a few working mirros
[06:51] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: do you use vim by any chance?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: No.
[06:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> tritium, should /usr/ be on it's own partition ?
[06:52] <jetscreamer> if you don't know, put it all on one partition
[06:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> okay, one last question.
[06:52] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: K.  How many files is it?
[06:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> should swap be logical or primary
[06:52] <tritium> CanYouHelpMePlz: not necessarily.  Like I said, there is no right or wrong on that.
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Maybe ~18.
[06:52] <jetscreamer> i don't 'think' it matters but i don't know
[06:53] <KonphuzeD> yo is there some way I can set this edubuntu install to run the gateway firewall pppoe for the network with like dhcp and samba
[06:53] <Finalhazard> I assume nobody's got an idea of what I'm talking about?
[06:53] <tritium> It doesn't
[06:53] <Managu> CanYouHelpMePlz, it doesn't really matter.  There's some talk about where the swap gets physically located might be important
[06:53] <Managu> CanYouHelpMePlz, but it's virtually impossible to know that, and it probably doesn't make a big difference; the only real difference would be speed
[06:54] <ablyss> ubuntu runs quite well with no swap if you're careful
[06:54] <KonphuzeD> i can put in a second ethernet card and use this 8port switch here
[06:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ablyss, i have 1gig ram so do i need a swap?
[06:54] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: 'sed' is probably the best tool for the job; it usually requires a bit a crafting on 1 file before you use a loop to search/replace everything.  Or you can use a favourite text editor to search/replace the <br/> tags
[06:54] <jetscreamer> Finalhazard: all i can tell you is that there are 50billion xmms plugins, bound to be one somewhere (maybe not though)
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: 'k.
[06:55] <moew> Hello. I have another question :) Friend trying to install Ubuntu on AMD64 w/Radeon XT 9600 and install works fine, everything is good, but when he logs in, the monitor is blank. It gets the brown background that's standard, but nothing else. You can see the mouse cursor and move it around. ctrl-alt-f2 brings him into the shell, and the shell works fine. But no GUI.
[06:55] <KonphuzeD> !pppoe
[06:55] <ubotu> pppoe is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:55] <Finalhazard> Ah well. Thanks anyways.
[06:55] <ablyss> CanYouHelpMePlz, swap is only used when you run out of ram, so it doesn't matter
[06:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ablyss, i doubt it would run out of 1gig of ram
[06:55] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: gedit would probably work - open all the files and do a search/replace; then use krename to rename all the files
[06:55] <Managu> moew, another ATI card? =(
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Will look into that in a bit.
[06:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how big should / be
[06:56] <tritium> CanYouHelpMePlz: 2-3 GB is sufficient for a standard install
[06:56] <domagoj> does anyone know which text editor supports following feature: convert spaces to tabs upon opening file, and tabs to spaces when saving
[06:56] <moew> Managu: It works fine w/Windows XP btw.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> domagoj,  try 'fte'
[06:57] <La_PaRCa> Hey tritium.
[06:57] <Managu> moew: no doubt.  Friend trying to install ubuntu_386 or ubuntu_x86_64 (or whatever the abbrev.s are)?
[06:57] <KonphuzeD> !gateway
[06:57] <ubotu> KonphuzeD: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:57] <tritium> Hi La_PaRCa
[06:58] <domagoj> fte? any info on that please? i'm comfortable with vi and gedit for my programming. how does fte compare?
[06:58] <La_PaRCa> tritium, I was looking over the Tecra page and wanted to say that sleep works fine on mine.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> !fte
[06:58] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[06:58] <tritium> La_PaRCa: let's talk in #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> its a text editor.. apt-get install it and try it out
[06:58] <domagoj> Dr_Willis, thanks. will do just that
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> domagoj,  or check out the dozens+ of options for vi. it can proberly do whatever you want
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> domagoj,  or 'emacs' *shudder*
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:59] <domagoj> Dr_Willis, ;)
[07:00] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: this seems to work for eliminating <br/> tags - try it one one file to begin with: sed -e 's/<br\/>//g' test.html
[07:00] <moew> Managu: ubuntu_5.10_amd64.iso
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Thanks.
[07:00] <wastrel> i bet someone's figured out a way to do that in vim
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Seems good.
[07:01] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: you redirect to a new .txt file of course
[07:01] <wastrel> domagoj:  http://www.cs.utah.edu/~kad/vim/vimnotes.shtml#21
[07:01] <Managu> moew: Gotcha.  No real experience with that distribution, but I know I shied away from it on my amd64 box.  At least when I was installing, the 64 bit port had a status of "well, it sorta works"
[07:02] <shukhrat> Hello all
[07:02] <moew> Managu: So what works for amd?
[07:03] <Managu> moew: well, the normal 32bit distribution runs like a charm
[07:03] <Zenethian> Question...  when I upgrade to an AMD64 processor, do I *need* to use the AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[07:03] <Zenethian> or can I simply continue using what I have so that I can maintain backwards compatability with things like flashplayer and java?
[07:04] <Managu> Zenethian: no need
[07:04] <domagoj> wastrel, thnx 4 the info.
[07:04] <Zenethian> so as long as I'm running a 32bit kernel, I can continue to run my 32bit apps just fine...  yay
[07:04] <damian_> Hi, Ive forgotten. What are the w32 and normal codec packages for totem-xine called?
[07:04] <Managu> Zene: right.  Your applications also need to be compiled 32 bit
[07:05] <moew> Managu: What should he do to make the 64 bit work?
[07:05] <fami> i want a mirror for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso
[07:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: if that works, then the next step is a loop (backup first of course); something like:  for i in *txt; do sed -ei 's/<br\/>//g' $i.new; done       <-- untested
[07:05] <Managu> moew: no clue.  first things I'd try are (a) check the logs for any funny business, and (b) see if you can get a foolsafe session running
[07:05] <damian_> Hi, Ive forgotten. What are the w32 and normal codec packages for totem-xine called?
[07:06] <domagoj> wastrel, this is a lifesaver! Great!
[07:06] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: nah
[07:06] <moew> Managu: Alright Managu, thanks but I think that he just gave up :)
[07:06] <Managu> moew: errm, not foolsafe.  Failsafe.  I think it's my bedtime
[07:06] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: maybe this: if that works, then the next step is a loop (backup first of course); something like:  for i in *txt; do sed -ei 's/<br\/>//g' $i; done       <-- untested
[07:06] <moew> Managu: He's not very persistent.
[07:07] <Managu> moew: sorry.  Maybe try Knoppix, heh
[07:07] <Managu> moew: or ubuntu live cd
[07:07] <wastrel> yay!
[07:07] <damian_> Hi, Ive forgotten. What are the w32 and normal codec packages for totem-xine called?
[07:07] <jon_k> I'm having issues with vncserver
[07:08] <jon_k> as rootit works fine -- starts gnome
[07:08] <jon_k> but root is bad to run vncserver as
[07:08] <wastrel> damian_:  w32codecs
[07:08] <jon_k> when i start it as my usr account it just shows a checkered X background with X as cursor
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  you  are logging in with GDM?
[07:09] <damian_> what repositories are these on?
[07:09] <jon_k> yeah i use GDM
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  try some of the other window manager sessions in the menus. seems like your X session is not starting a window manager.
[07:09] <jon_k> i'm chatting to you in xfce4
[07:09] <jon_k> how i got xfce4 open is right via GDM Login
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  so you are saying the default GNOME session is not working?
[07:10] <jon_k> gnome works if i select that in GDM too
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> jon_k, so what one does NOT work then? :P
[07:10] <jon_k> what i'm saying is typing vncserver and starting vncserver as my local user account (jon) on port 5901.....
[07:10] <jon_k> and then i xvncviewer in on 5901
[07:10] <wastrel> !tell damian_ about w32codecs
[07:11] <jon_k> and i see a checkered background with X as a curser
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> vncserver uses its own  .vnc/xstartup or similer file. to set what x window manager to use.
[07:11] <jon_k> GDM doesn't start for VNC or anything
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> its defaultintg to TWM - which is 'normal'
[07:11] <oklinux> hey Dr_Willis how are you ?
[07:11] <jon_k> Dr_Willis,
[07:11] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: heh - this actually seems to work:  for i in *html; do sed -i -e 's/<br\/>//g' $i; done
[07:11] <jon_k> # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
[07:11] <jon_k> xsetroot -solid
[07:11] <jon_k>   xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
[07:11] <jon_k> /usr/bin/gnome-session &
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> look in the users .vnc dir. and perhaps read the 'vncserver' script - to learn what its doing.
[07:11] <jon_k> is that proper stuff for xstartup?
[07:11] <jon_k> anything wrong in there?
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Thanks.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  that 'should' run gnome-session
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  make it run somthing els.. it also should start up a xterm.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> vnc is a tool thats worth learning the details of. :P
[07:12] <jon_k> jon_k, I tried it with just "xterm" doesn't do nothin!
[07:12] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: yw (felt like tackling a puzzle tonight :-)
[07:12] <oklinux> how do I mount an slave drive in ubuntu ?
[07:12] <jon_k> Dr_Willis, used VNC without problems on MEPIS...
[07:12] <jon_k> the odd thing is
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> run vncserver witht eh options  to tell it what config file to use  perhaps.
[07:13] <jon_k> /root/.vnc/ has no xsession, and running vncserver as root works great
[07:13] <jon_k> starts up gnome like a charm
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> theres several versions of vnc.. and they also tend to use slighjt variations in the vncserver script.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> if you want vncserver to run a gdm - thats doable. and mentioned in the forums as to the 'proper' way to do that.  :P
[07:14] <moew> But not both.
[07:14] <jon_k> Dr_Willis, will it screw over my old inetd?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  thats the wiki/docs i followed. i just vnc to my server on a port and it spawns a vnc session.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> inetd - why are ya using inetd - when xinetd can do so much more. :P
[07:15] <jon_k> I'm use to xinetd on centos
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> of course all its doing for me is spawning vnc sessions.
[07:15] <suture> Is there a wm or app that lets me make any window transparent/borderless easily? this is really difficult to do in metacity..
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> borderless - is doable.. transparent - not so doable (easially)
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> actually I think KDE has some features to do that. :P
[07:16] <suture> borderless?? how...
[07:16] <suture> I don't really like kde..
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> some window managers let you selec different themes/decoratsions or hide the decorations for windows
[07:17] <oklinux> how do I mount an slave drive in ubuntu ?
[07:18] <jon_k> who would want a window without borders?
[07:18] <jon_k> ever start kde without kdewin loaded?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:18] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:19] <jon_k> not very cool when you can't move windows
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> jon_k,  its doable.. and has some usses
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:19] <jon_k> uses, in rare occasions
[07:19] <wastrel> jon_k:  alt-click & drag anywhere on a window
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> actually isent alt-click a window manager specific feature?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> of course alt-clicking in a vnc window - often dont work too good. :P
[07:21] <oklinux> Thanks Dr_willis
[07:21] <jon_k> wastrel, works without kdewin started on kde?
[07:22] <wastrel> jon_k:  dunno - never used kde
[07:22] <jon_k> wastrel, -ever-?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> heh - I perfer kde.
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> or WindowMaker
[07:23] <danny_osl> man, this no DRI thing is baffling
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> but to each their own.
[07:23] <wastrel> jon_k:  well i've tried it, but never used it for any length of time.
[07:24] <wastrel> every couple of years i install it & see if i want to switch.
[07:24] <one> My laptop is hosed in the kernel and I can't connect to the dsl via dhcp.  There are messages in dmesg saying try lapic, try pci=pirqmask , override with idebus=xx,  ALI15X3_smb region uninitialized -  upgrade BIOS (there is no upgrade available) or use force_addr=0xaddr.  I have edited /boot/grub/menu.lst for the pci suggestions, but there seems to be no effect.  Help ?
[07:25] <thompa> one: is it wireless?
[07:25] <one> not wireless
[07:26] <thompa> one: did you compile your own kernel
[07:26] <Raovq> random question, what would be the best (most like winamp) media players for linux?
[07:26] <thompa> real player
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Raovq,  xmms is a winamp clone (sort of)
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> and Beep media player
[07:26] <Raovq> cool, thanks, ill look into them
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> 'best' is not 'the most like winamp' :P in many cases
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> best = depends on what you are playing, and doing.
[07:27] <ablyss> my favorite media player is xfmedia
[07:27] <thompa> vls plays everything consistantly
[07:27] <one> thompa: no; it's 2.6.10-5-386 from burned cd
[07:28] <Raovq> ive just gorwn up with winamp, we have had some good times. now ive moved on but want to keep the memory alive
[07:28] <ablyss> xfmedia feels light and not rigid... has cute little taskbar icon too :D
[07:28] <thompa> one: did it work before, is this a fresh install?
[07:28] <thompa> does nayone know how to restart sound like alsaconf
[07:29] <thompa> hmm maybe alsaconfig is not installed
[07:29] <ipfw> Xenguy: xfce is sweet
[07:29] <Raovq> uhhh, i have the choice of tar.gz and tar.bz2. which one wins?
[07:29] <damian_> how do i enable digital out
[07:29] <damian_> how do i enable digital out
[07:29] <HappyFool> Raovq: for what? xmms /
[07:30] <damian_> oops
[07:30] <Raovq> yeah
[07:30] <damian_> i use xfce
[07:30] <HappyFool> Raovq: i suggest using synaptic or apt-get
[07:30] <brettzilla> woop woop. compiz is working swell.
[07:30] <HappyFool> Raovq: no need to compile etc etc
[07:30] <Raovq> just sudo apt-get xmms?
[07:30] <damian_> in a month or so itll ha ve desktop icons and will then oficoally be a full featured desktop
[07:30] <HappyFool> Raovq: 'sudo apt-get install xmms' -- you may need to setup repos
[07:30] <thompa> one: sorry I dont know, I think you need latest stock kernel
[07:31] <HappyFool> Raovq: also, fwiw, i recommend aptitude over apt-get
[07:31] <Xaero> i have a problem...
[07:31] <damian_> how do i enable digital out
[07:31] <Raovq> what is the difference between the two? can i use them the same?
[07:31] <one> thompa:  have never been able to network; it is a fresh install; I tried the hp laptop version this time;  I have tried other versions before;  always the same problem: network unreachable;  the irq's are hosed up;  why can't I pass options to the kernel through grub lst ?
[07:31] <thompa> dapper is running 2.6.15-18-386
[07:31] <Xaero> i downloaded the latest ATI fglrx drivers for x86 linux
[07:31] <axisys> anyone knows how to activate the Infra Red
[07:31] <Xaero> i installed it via graphical installer
[07:31] <kditty> why would my terminal say dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:31] <kditty> '?
[07:32] <HappyFool> Raovq: aptitude is a bit cleverer about keeping track of what is installed; when things are uninstalled, it will also uninstall `orphaned' dependencies.
[07:32] <Raovq> ah, cool
[07:32] <axisys> i am using compaq nc6220
[07:32] <thompa> one: whats the make of laptop?
[07:32] <kditty> im trying to install mp3 codes, and windows codecs
[07:32] <Xaero> it installed fine... but then when I try to use aticonfig I get this
[07:32] <blanky> !ati
[07:32] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:32] <Xaero> aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open s hared object file: No such file or directory
[07:32] <HappyFool> kditty: have you read the 'restricted formats' page on the wiki?
[07:33] <kditty> yea
[07:33] <one> thompa: compaq presario 2100, actually 2190US, specifically.
[07:33] <axisys> i like to use infrared to send data from my laptop to my phone
[07:33] <Raovq> so, let me get this straight: people who make free software load it up to a few sites, and linux can automatically find, download and install them with one command?
[07:33] <kditty> thats how i learned what to do, and where to get the codecs
[07:33] <Xaero> any ideas?
[07:34] <HappyFool> kditty: ok, what problem are you having?
[07:35] <kditty> when i tried to install the w32 codecs, it downloaded and then when i ran the instal sudo it said dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:35] <Xaero> hello?
[07:35] <one> kditty:  is synaptics open ?
[07:35] <kditty> yes, do i need to close it?
[07:35] <Toma-> anyone know why ndiswrapper wouldnt be making a wlan0 for me? ive got the right drivers install, -l shows them, -m has been run and still i have no wlan0
[07:35] <one> kditty:  I think so.
[07:35] <kditty> ok let me try that, thanks
[07:35] <Xaero> i tried renaming libfglrx_pp.so.1.0 to libfglrx_pp.so.1 but it still doesnt work
[07:36] <kditty> there it goes :D i feel like suck a newb
[07:36] <kditty> but htats alright, because i am lol
[07:36] <mikebot> is there a learn to type programf or ubuntu?
[07:37] <thompa> one: the breezy kernel is 2.6.12, why are you running 2.6.10?
[07:37] <damian_> how do i enable digital out
[07:37] <damian_> how do i enable digital out
[07:37] <thompa> tux type
[07:37] <Xaero> i get this
[07:37] <Xaero> admin@UbuntuBox:~$ sudo fglrxinfo
[07:37] <Xaero> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:37] <Xaero> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[07:37] <Xaero> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[07:37] <Xaero> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:37] <Xaero> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[07:37] <tritium> Xaero: don't paste
[07:37] <mikebot> !tell Xaero about paste
[07:37] <Xaero> which is the open source drivers
[07:38] <nalioth> Xaero: it's rude to paste in irc channels, use a pastebin instead
[07:38] <kditty> man, this is like a whole different universe than windows!
[07:38] <tritium> mikebot: yes, there is.  apt-cache search typing tutor
[07:38] <thompa> mikebot: tuxtype
[07:38] <FarSe3r> Hello, how can I test if my ati fglrx driver is installed corectly? my screen savers are really slow......
[07:38] <mikebot> tritium, thanks
[07:38] <Raovq> according to aptitude, opera depends on a package (xlib6g) that is unavailible. it wants to delete opera. how can i fix it?
[07:38] <mikebot> thompa, thanks
[07:38] <thompa> for kids though
[07:39] <Xaero> i want the proprietary drivers to work
[07:39] <Xaero> please help
[07:39] <FarSe3r> me too
[07:39] <FarSe3r> or test if they are working..........
[07:39] <mikebot> tritium, where does that install to?
[07:39] <tritium> mikebot: which one did you choose?  There are more than one option.
[07:40] <mikebot> tritium, i pasted what you wrote
[07:40] <mrnicksgirl> its working!!!!!!!!!!! its working!!!!!!!!!! got Ubuntu installed on some old machine to hold me over two and a half days till my new laptop comes in .. selling this one on sunday
[07:40] <one> thompa:  as I mentioned, the download was supposed to be hp laptop optimized or the like.  I think it could be;  the messages in dmesg are very specific and appear to have the potential to be solving if I could implement the suggestions.
[07:40] <tritium> mikebot: that lists available packages.  It doesn't install anything
[07:40] <Xaero> ok nobodys helping me... where do i go to get help?
[07:40] <kditty> i installed the mp3 codec package but it still wont play mp3s, is a common soulution just to restart the program that is not working correctly after installing codecs for it?
[07:40] <mikebot> tritium, oh
[07:40] <nalioth> Xaero: i did not see a question, just a large paste
[07:40] <tritium> mikebot: look at the descriptions, and pick one you'd like.  Then, sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[07:41] <kditty> xaero: www.ubuntu.com and forums