[23:19] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, since my upgrade to 10.04 when i reboot, i get : An error occurred while mounting /proc/bus/usb. I read about removing the last line from /etc/fstab but, when i try to edit it, it says : Read only file system. Any idea ?
[23:19] <_Narc_> domjohnson : I get my Logitech ones from their websites or from my computer store usually.
[23:19] <VCoolio> Jon-: there is also a gui for xbindkeys, forgot the name, do 'apt-cache search xbindkeys' to find it
[23:20] <domjohnson> ok
[23:20] <ksos> hello there
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> resno_: as far as i know, it always 'sudo service <service_name> start/stop/restart
[23:20] <masu3701> how do i make my wireless card work ?
[23:20] <domjohnson> cheers, _Narc_ :)
[23:20] <dennda> What can I do to improve the feeling of my mbp 5,5 touchpad in ubuntu? Does anybody have some config around? Not even talking about multitouch, but for example, as soon as i put a second finger on it, the cursor just stops moving...
[23:20] <resno_> onetinsoldier: not with apache2. its sudo apache2 restart
[23:20] <ksos> how to install essentiel kubuntu package on my pc ?
[23:20] <ksos> i got just 5gb of hard drive
[23:21] <ksos> need your help
[23:21] <masu3701> ksos: what up
[23:21] <ksos> how to install essentiel kubuntu package on my pc ?
[23:21] <ksos> need your help
[23:21] <ksos> i got just 5gb of hard drive
[23:21] <jbendotnet> hai
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> resno_: perhaps apache isn't an 'upstart' service? i mean, no 'service' after the apache2 there? looks strange to me...
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> resno_: perhaps apache isn't an 'upstart' service? i mean, no 'service' after the sudo* there? looks strange to me...
[23:21] <jbendotnet> got an ubuntu vm guest os, which has bulked up loads in size
[23:21] <jbendotnet> can't work out why
[23:21] <theoros> i am trying to use the 10.04 desktop ISO to create a liveusb. i have tried using unetbootin (latest version), and usb-creator-gtk but despite formatting the usb drive in all attempts, i get the error "could not find kernel image: linux" related to syslinux when booting from my laptop with windows on it. when i use my dell mini 10v, it loads the liveusb normally (proving it is not a corrupted ISO), what gives?
[23:21] <masu3701> ksos: make more room
[23:21] <_Narc_> Hello everyone. Anyone else knows why I'm getting very slow file transfer speed from an ext3 partition to another on Lucid ? It's about 3MB/s...
[23:22] <hkais> helllo
[23:22] <hkais> hello all
[23:22] <ksos> what room ?
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> DjAngo23: in a terminal type: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   ..then you'll be able to write to the file
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:22] <duffydack> jbendotnet, sudo apt-get clean
[23:22] <masu3701> ksos: space
[23:22] <onetinsoldier> yo ActionParsnip
[23:22] <michael__> hi Action
[23:22] <onetinsoldier> hello
[23:22] <ksos> i can't
[23:22] <resno_> hey ActionParsnip
[23:22] <ksos> that 's a router
[23:22] <hkais> is there a possibility to find out what is causing a high load?
[23:22] <jbendotnet> duffydack: anything look odd here http://pastie.org/950851
[23:22] <resno_> hkais: use top
[23:22] <jbendotnet>  ?
[23:22] <duffydack> jbendotnet, and look in the .thumbails folder :)  it can rack up a lot of files...
[23:23] <onetinsoldier> hkais: yep.. top.. or htop, ect
[23:23] <masu3701> how do i make my wireless card work ?
[23:23] <jbendotnet> this is a server instance
[23:23] <hkais> resno_: okay and how do i detect the load?
[23:23] <jbendotnet> and has really no files on it (web files are shared from my mac to it)
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> masu3701: run: sudo lshw -C network    use the product line to find guides
[23:23] <wildbat> _Narc_, what's dd read on your drive?
[23:23] <jbendotnet> just nginx and mysql really
[23:23] <resno_> hkais: open terminal and type top. maybe im missing what your asking.
[23:23] <_Narc_> wildbat : You mean speed or permission ?
[23:24] <onetinsoldier> hkais: i use htop, and there's a column labeled 'CPU%'
[23:24] <wildbat> _Narc_, no dd command
[23:24] <jbendotnet> duffydack: ran apt-get clean, didn't do anything - should I expect it to have?
[23:24] <duffydack> jbendotnet, do you mean the vm hd image has or the actual install
[23:24] <ksos> no one know
[23:24] <jbendotnet> vm hd image
[23:24] <k4ever> ubottu: thanks.  i thought it was installed but it wasn't.  that did the trick
[23:24] <jbendotnet> it's really bulked out
[23:25] <ksos> i got just 5gb of hard drive
[23:25] <craigzheng> anyone know why X and Gtk would correctly recognize my Super key but KDE treats it as Meta?
[23:25] <duffydack> jbendotnet,  is it dynamic
[23:25] <hkais> resno_: okay I see the cpu and the used mem, but that is also visible in the system monitor in gnome.  But it is not the only cause the high cpu
[23:25] <ksos> how to install essentiel kubuntu package on my pc ?
[23:25] <DjAngo23> bastid_raZor, Could you explain what the problem is about the read-only file system problem ?
[23:25] <_Narc_> wildbat : Oh, sorry, I don't know this command.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> jbendotnet: if you are low on space then you can remove surplus kernels as well as install / run bleachbit
[23:25] <ksos> #xubuntu
[23:25] <hkais> resno_: io can also cause a high system load, and this seems to be my issue
[23:25] <lfaraone> When my computer boots, the kernel drops to the initramfs busybox unable to mount the root device. (mounting via UUID and /dev/disk/by-uuid) When I inspecd /dev/, there is no /dev/disk/ folder. Mounting /dev/sda to /root and exiting initramfs causes it to work for that session. How can I determine the underlying issue?
[23:25] <xangua> ksos: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop¿
[23:25] <lfaraone> maco: ^^
[23:25] <bastid_raZor> jbendotnet: it cleaned out /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:26] <duffydack> ActionParsnip, jbendotnet my guess he`s using a dynamic vm hd... needs shrinking.
[23:26] <Jon-> jrib: Will MPD start on boot by default
[23:26] <jrib> Jon-: yes
[23:26] <Polemus> would anyone mind helping me setting up my third monitor?
[23:26] <wildbat> _Narc_, do : dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/your/drive/temp.file bs=4096 count=8192
[23:26] <diegotimbu> boa noite
[23:26] <bastid_raZor> DjAngo23: you need root permissions to edit that file.. using gksudo gedit /etc/fstab will allow you to write to said file
[23:26] <jbendotnet> duffydack: yeah, that's it - just surprised it's got to that size, it has really no files other than the server OS on there
[23:27] <diegotimbu> instalei o ubuntu 10.04 e to com problema na conexao wi-fi no notebook
[23:27] <soreau> damn this thing
[23:27] <Jon-> jrib: FML this shit is way too hard.
[23:27] <jrib> !pt | diegotimbu
[23:27] <jbendotnet> duffydack: this could be my problem http://pastie.org/950857
[23:27] <blue112> I have a problem with Kate using sftp : When I try to save a file, I have a access denied message to a ".part" file... I have all rights on the directory and the file. What can I do to fix that ?
[23:27] <jrib> Jon-: it was a suggestion, you don't need to use it if you don't like it
[23:27] <FinboySlick> Hello gang.  I need some sort of howto/hints on enabling remote desktop viewing (vnc) on 10.04 on boot for a completely headless box.
[23:27] <FinboySlick> I'm a console/ssh type, but this isn't my box.
[23:27] <jbendotnet> any ideas how to fix?
[23:28] <Polemus> would anyone mind helping me set up my third monitor on ubuntu lucid?
[23:28] <ksos> xangua:  when i do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop it takes more than 7gb
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> FinboySlick: http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx
[23:28] <bastid_raZor> !purekde | ksos
[23:28] <ksos> that's why i want to install just only few package
[23:28] <diegotimbu> ubottu, Sorry. Thanks.
[23:28] <hkais> no hints to find the causes for a high load?
[23:29] <FinboySlick> ActionParsnip: This applies to 10.04 as well?
[23:29] <domjohnson> What's the best pointing device for video editing?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> FinboySlick: its pretty much the same bag
[23:29] <cwsistem> boa noite
[23:29] <FinboySlick> ActionParsnip: Okay, I'll give it a go.
[23:29] <jbendotnet> am seeing: files list file for package 'linux-libc-dev' contains empty filename
[23:29] <Polemus> hmmm
[23:29] <jrib> Jon-: random google link: http://bryogenic.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/vlc-global-hotkeys-in-ubuntu-with-compiz/
[23:30] <Polemus> ??? would anyone mind helping me set up my third monitor on ubuntu lucid? ???
[23:30] <An_Ony_Moose> totem won't play a media file. Error: Cannot connect stream: too large.
[23:31] <ksos> thanks bastid_raZor
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> hkais: don't know. you might be able to come up with some 'lsof' command, but i wouldn't know as i've haven't really every used lsof much
[23:31] <ksos> how space does it takes ?
[23:31] <ksos> purekde ?
[23:31] <DoorMan> just installed 10.04.  are there any crucial updates i need?
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> hkais: and the man page for lsof looks pretty daunting if you ask me
[23:31] <duffydack> jbendotnet, I dont know what that means tbh...
[23:31] <BluesKaj> !purekde | ksos
[23:32] <xangua> DoorMan: like 80mb since it was released
[23:32] <duffydack> jbendotnet, what does vbox report as the file size and used size of the vm hd image
[23:32] <cowguru2000> Monotoko: i did what you suggested (live USB)... my sound is now working
[23:32] <BluesKaj> !puregnome | ksos
[23:32] <cowguru2000> so, do you suggest a fresh install?
[23:32] <duffydack> jbendotnet, just to rule out the dynamic nature of the image
[23:32] <tgalal> empathy is good, but it lacks many features in pidgin. I want to remove empathy, install pidgin and make pidgin fully integrated in panel exactly like empathy were. is it possible ?
[23:32] <Polemus> would anyone mind helping me set up my third monitor on ubuntu lucid?
[23:32] <duffydack> tgalal, install pidgin.. job done
[23:33] <xangua> tgalal: pidgin is perfectly integrated
[23:33] <tgalal> duffydack, great thanks :D
[23:33] <jbendotnet> duffydack: not sure how to find out
[23:33] <DoorMan> i went to update manager and tried to update but said I needed to do a partial upgrade.  do you know what this entails?
[23:33] <duffydack> tgalal, I agree.. its very basic in comparison
[23:33] <z0z> hi guys
[23:33] <jbendotnet> for now, deciding to attempt to fix that error
[23:33] <Monotoko> cowguru2000, awesome, it will be the update then...its up to you now...you can try and track down the bug that killed your sound (cant help there sadly) or you can backup and install 10.04 clean
[23:33] <duffydack> jbendotnet, storage manager...
[23:33] <cowguru2000> Monotoko: I think I'll just do the clean install :(
[23:34] <cowguru2000> Monotoko: thanks a lot!
[23:34] <Polemus> please.... noob here..... and i have no idea how to get my third monitor up and running?
[23:34] <xangua> DoorMan: you maybe installed a beta version¿¿
[23:34] <Polemus> i know i have to edit some .conf file but i am clueless
[23:35] <Monotoko> cowguru2000, no worries :) wish i could help you fix your current install but its beyond my experiance
[23:35] <duffydack> jbendotnet, with a dynamic hd, anything you add grows its size, but when you delete it, it doesnt decrease...
[23:35] <jbendotnet> duffydack: mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-libc-dev.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-libc-dev.list.broke
[23:35] <jbendotnet> apt-get --reinstall install linux-libc-dev
[23:35] <jbendotnet> duffydack: ahh, ok
[23:35] <jbendotnet> at least I should be able to upgrade now
[23:36] <duffydack> jbendotnet, if its a server, make it static.. if you have the room
[23:36] <DoorMan> Just to make sure, i clicked on About Ubuntu and said i was using the latest release.
[23:36] <tm0> I have a CD, and i want to turn that CD into an ISO image.  If so thank you :)
[23:38] <IdleOne> th_r: 10.04
[23:38] <th_r> thank u
[23:38] <FinboySlick> ActionParsnip:  I think it has some trouble RANDR missing.
[23:38] <z0z> how i can change my ip adress in ubuntu
[23:38] <Polemus> I have a problem setting up a third monitor... can anyone help please
[23:38] <z0z> can any one tell me
[23:38] <z0z> this
[23:39] <tm0> xangua, so much it does work :)
[23:39] <jsec> !repeat | Polemus
[23:39] <FinboySlick> ActionParsnip:  Otherwise, it looks like it'll eventually do the trick.
[23:40] <Jon-> jrib: This VLC thing isn't working. Can you help?
[23:40] <Jon-> jrib: I would rather use VLC http server than install a brand new app. I will use mpd if I have to.
[23:40] <jrib> Jon-: okay, what isn't worknig exactly?
[23:41] <Jon-> jrib: It simply does not work. I followed the guide and the wget does nothing.
[23:41] <jbendotnet> someone help Polemus with his greedy 3 screen set up
[23:41] <jbendotnet> :)
[23:41] <Polemus> :)
[23:41] <Fifty_Sixty> à ïî ðóññêè çäåñü âîîáùå ãîâîðÿò? )
[23:41] <jsec> Polemus: see if this helps at all.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305666
[23:41] <jbendotnet> actually, don't - I only have 2 screens
[23:41] <jbendotnet> ;)
[23:42] <Polemus> well... i now have one spare that you can take... seing though it aint working :-D
[23:42] <jbendotnet> duffydack: deleted the snapshot (only had one) and it's not cleaning up deleted files
[23:42] <jbendotnet> reckon that should sort it
[23:42] <jrib> Jon-: you made sure you restarted vlc?
[23:42] <xeer0> Does someone have a clue about why my xvideo scaling stopped working from 9.10 to 10.04? I use Ati HD2400
[23:43] <duffydack> jbendotnet, ?
[23:43] <andbelo> @xeer0: intall ccsm and check if the plugin is enabled
[23:43] <jbendotnet> duffydack: once this has run, what's the smallest sensible size this VM shoudl be?
[23:43] <jbendotnet> 5gb? 10gb ?
[23:43] <jbendotnet> (if I make it static)
[23:44] <Jon-> jrib: It is now pausing on "Creating httpd" when run from terminal
[23:44] <duffydack> jbendotnet, you need the vboxmanage tool ( I think, its been a long time since I used dynamic, now I have 500gig to play with)...to shrink the image..
[23:44] <jbendotnet> am using vmware not virtbox
[23:44] <jrib> Jon-: try just http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080 in your browser
[23:44] <duffydack> jbendotnet, it`ll be whatever the OS inside is using
[23:45] <jbendotnet> won't be upgrading vmware though once a new v comes out, will switch to vbox
[23:45] <jbendotnet> no need to spend the $$
[23:45] <duffydack> jbendotnet, ah.. ,well same principle.. it`ll be the size its using.
[23:45] <jbendotnet> or ££ in my case
[23:45] <codygman> How do I tell what partition I am on?
[23:45] <MrDummy> Which flash player do you choose? Adobe / Swfdec / Gnash ?
[23:45] <duffydack> jbendotnet, shrinking doesnt make it static....
[23:45] <jbendotnet> i know
[23:46] <jbendotnet> pre-allocating the space does
[23:46] <duffydack> k
[23:46] <onetinsoldier> codygman: mount command. type 'mount'
[23:46] <xangua> MrDummy: adobe flash if you want to play all flash content
[23:46] <andbelo> Adobe
[23:46] <Jon-> jrib: I can access it, stuff appears on screen for VLC. However, doing VLC gives me this: http://pastebin.com/KmP35K06
[23:46] <MrDummy> okay
[23:46] <Slasher`> hey people, got a server and im trying to make a partition on sdb, but i'm getting "Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table" any ideas?
[23:46] <jrib> Jon-: do you have something else running on 8080?
[23:46] <Jon-> jrib: No.
[23:47] <jrib> Jon-: do you maybe have a different vlc server running on 8080?
[23:47] <leagris> There is no more esound driver for wine in Lucid and it does no more show wave input device with the Alsa driver. How can I fix this (regaining wave input device in alsa or getting esound driver back)?
[23:47] <shishire> Slasher`, well, does it have a valid partition table?   Does this mean my wirelessdevice don't see the other wireless device?
[23:48] <newbie_> Is there any reason why KDE wouldnt work in ubuntu when is select it as a session at loginscreen?
[23:49] <xeer0> Does someone have a clue about why my xvideo scaling stopped working from 9.10 to 10.04? I use Ati HD2400
[23:49] <jrib> Jon-: run qvlc
[23:49] <MrDummy> What is better: APT or DEB (when downloading Flash)
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> histo: that is the best i've gotten ever since 8.10..
[23:49] <Slasher`> shishire; http://pastebin.com/Bh7tTe1M that's what shows atm, i'm not sure how to identify it
[23:49] <jrib> MrDummy: apt will give you automatic updates
[23:49] <newbie_> MrDummy:  download it from rep
[23:49] <newbie_> repo thingy, the ubuntu installer
[23:49] <Jon-> jrib: Ok what am I doing in properties? Please give me all steps.
[23:50] <jrib> Jon-: you should see 8080 for port somewhere, change it to 8081
[23:50] <newbie_> its given me the least problems at least ( ive tried 5 ways)
[23:50] <shishire> Slasher`, looks like you have a zero'd disk.  Is it new or recently wiped?
[23:50] <onetinsoldier> MrDummy: deb? you mean gdebi? or dpkg? just use 'aptitude install' or 'apt-get install'
[23:50] <Jon-> jrib: They actually only list IP
[23:50] <Jon-> jrib: Should I try IP:port ?
[23:50] <Salvad1> Hello. Can I use some key to bring GRUB2 at startup?
[23:50] <histo> bastid_raZor: yeah it should be three times as fast appears to be a driver issue
[23:50] <MrDummy> it's listed on adobe.com :P
[23:50] <MrDummy> .deb or apt
[23:50] <shishire> Salvad1, Hold Shift
[23:50] <Salvad1> *To bring the GRUB2 menu.
[23:50] <Salvad1> Thanks.
[23:50] <MrDummy> but i choose apt
[23:51] <onetinsoldier> MrDummy: .deb is the package that 'apt-get' will download and install.
[23:51] <leagris> Anyone can help with sound input in wine as it worked in Karmic but no longer show alsa wave input device in Lucid
[23:51] <bastid_raZor> histo: 9.10 actually copied up to 2.5MB/s .. only wifi has slow speeds.. ethernet cable is full 10MB/s speeds
[23:51] <Jon-> jrib: They only show Host Address, I think they want port in THERE if specified? Other boxes are source dir, handlers, and then SSL configuration
[23:51] <Guest38674> anyone know how to get svideo out with pci hollywood plus card?
[23:51] <duffydack> Salvad1, if you want it permanent, put a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub
[23:51] <DroidDemon> on ubuntu 10.4 how can i install new sounds, theme sounds?
[23:51] <onetinsoldier> MrDummy: if you have to download the .deb file yourself, then use 'dpkg' to install it by hand
[23:51] <justin__> salvad1, you will also need to run sudo update-grub after changing /etc/default/grub
[23:52] <duffydack> justin__, doh, thanks
[23:52] <Slasher`> shishire; recently wiped with this command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[23:52] <domjohnson> Is a trackball any good for video editing?
[23:52] <tgalal> duffydack, I removed empathy, installed pidgin. it's nicely integrated. but now under the notification applet in panel, there is chat, mail, broadcast and pidgin internet messenger. why doesn't piding use the pre-existing chat section ?
[23:52] <justin__> mrdummy you can also just double click to install with gdebi
[23:52] <An_Ony_Moose> totem won't play a media file. Failed to connect stream: Too large
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> MrDummy: dpkg -i <package-version.deb>
[23:52] <Slasher`> shishire; it had 3 partitions on & we only wanted 1
[23:52] <shishire> Slasher`, ok, that command wiped the partition table. No problem, but you need to rebuild it.
[23:52] <An_Ony_Moose> any idea why?
[23:52] <jrib> Jon-: try what you said (appending :port)
[23:52] <duffydack> tgalal, it just doesnt...
[23:52] <jrib> Jon-: http://wiki.videolan.org/Web_Interface
[23:52] <zvacet> MrDummy : do you have problems installing flash from synaptic
[23:52] <Slasher`> shishire; is that easy enough to do? lol :/
[23:52] <tgalal> duffydack, so no way to make it does ?
[23:53] <duffydack> tgalal, not that I know of... pidgin handles itself...
[23:53] <MrDummy> i try now .deb
[23:53] <duffydack> tgalal, I think there is a way to remove the chat thing tho...
[23:53] <Guest38674> is there any "guru" out here that can point me in the right direction to get my old hardware working? plz?
[23:53] <shishire> Slasher`, cli or gui?
[23:53] <Slasher`> cli
[23:53] <MrDummy> but it says newest version is already installed
[23:53] <Slasher`> we only have ssh access
[23:53] <Sa[i]nT> cli, for the win.
[23:53] <onetinsoldier> MrDummy: roger. you cold just do --> apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[23:53] <shishire> Slasher`, very easy btw
[23:54] <onetinsoldier> could*
[23:54] <michael1982> hey all
[23:54] <onetinsoldier> hi!
[23:54] <jonson002> how to burn mp3 cd in k3b?
[23:54] <tgalal> duffydack, and now the me menu is now working with pidgin too.....
[23:54] <michael1982>  is it worth updating ubuntu 10 to 10.4
[23:54] <tgalal> duffydack,  not*
[23:54] <zvacet> Guest38674 : probably somebody can help you but be more specific
[23:54] <bastid_raZor> jonson002: choose audio cd in the menu
[23:54] <Slasher`> shishire; do you have instructions to hand on how i can do that, please?
[23:54] <jtimberman> is launchpad borked? I'm trying to copy packages in my ppa and get:  (Error ID: OOPS-1588M2210)
[23:54] <duffydack> tgalal, how so
[23:54] <shishire> Slasher`, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[23:54] <DroidDemon> Can anyone tell me how to get custom sounds on 10.4?
[23:55] <shishire> then use the "o" command
[23:55] <MrDummy> ah i must only restart firefox
[23:55] <zvacet> jonson002 : I burn it as data project
[23:55] <Slasher`> shishire; cheers, i'll try it out
[23:55] <shishire> then "w" to write it to the disk, and you should have a valid partition table
[23:55] <michael1982> ?
[23:55] <tgalal> duffydack, all statuses are disabled, can't select any. and chat accounts doesn't do anything on click
[23:55] <tgalal> duffydack, that's not the full integration i was expecting
[23:55] <Slasher`> i'll try that now, thanks
[23:56] <jonson002> giving it a try..guys
[23:56] <Jon-> jrib: Attempted to use the following command: vlc --http-host <IP_ADDRESS>:6666. No error messages displayed, however, neither http://<IP_ADDRESS>:6666 or http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080 work.
[23:56] <duffydack> tgalal, guess you need empathy installed still :)   the chat accounts will always display empathy`s...but the status stuff works with pidgin fine.
[23:56] <onetinsoldier> Slasher`: i highly recommend you use 'cfdisk' and not fdisk
[23:56] <Guest38674> I got: 1 onboard vga connected now and 1 pci card with svideo and vga
[23:56] <Slasher`> onetinsoldier; ooh how come?
[23:56] <jrib> Jon-: maybe the #vlc channel can help you
[23:56] <Guest38674> i want svideo out on my pci :)
[23:57] <onetinsoldier> fdisk say in the manual how ancient it is, and perhaps not to be trusted. cfdisk on the other hand, is quite strict about partition tables, and it makes beautiful partitions
[23:57] <Jon-> frib: With all of their 5 users? ;P
[23:57] <onetinsoldier> Slasher`: ^^^
[23:57] <Coppermine> so how do i expand my desktop to my tv with svideo on a Hollywood + PCI card
[23:57] <newbie_> jon: on irc.videolan.org?
[23:58] <Polemus> how can i change the location of my menu bar?
[23:58] <Slasher`> onetinsoldier; does it work in the same way?
[23:58] <Coppermine> Polemus: right click menu bar and change bottom to top?
[23:58] <Claudinux> th_r, 10.04 lucid lynx
[23:59] <Polemus> i want it on my left hand side monitor
[23:59] <rem11> my ubuntu logo during boot likes like almost 8-bit like, but only with the nvidia drivers installed. with the stock ubuntu one it looks great + i cant control brightness/backlight with the nvidia drivers but can do so stock. anyone know how to fix either issue?
[23:59] <onetinsoldier> Slasher`: all i can say is, looka at te man page (man fdisk) and read the bottom part labeled 'BUGS'
[23:59] <z3ro3x> If I stay logged on 10.04 for a few days, xorg gets real sluggish and music in Rhythmbox plays as though my CPU is highly busy when it's not.    The only way to reproduce it is to wait a few days.  Any idea what the issue might be?
[23:59] <Coppermine> Polemus: make that display primary?
[23:59] <benkevan> rem11: that's a bug with nvidia binaries and plymoth
[23:59] <jtimberman> is launchpad borked? I'm trying to copy packages in my ppa and get:  (Error ID: OOPS-1588M2210)
[23:59] <duffydack> rem11, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/newsdump-netinstall-ubuntu-opera-repo.html
[23:59]  * UncleD- is running 10.04 and feels pimp.
[23:59] <benkevan> you can wait for a update.. or there's a work around.. if yo ureally want
[23:59] <kwtm2> Help!  How do I restart X-server?  Ctrl-Alt-BkSpace doesn't seem to work.
[23:59] <Slasher`> onetinsoldier; ok, i'll be sure to check that out, thanks


[05:49] <Takyoji> You know, I'm somewhat surprised there isn't a practical or somewhat widely used royalty-free alternative to FAT16/FAT32
[05:56] <rlaager> Takyoji: Only another 5.5 years to go!
[06:11] <Takyoji> of patent expiration, or?
[06:36] <rlaager> Yeah, until the patent(s) expire, give or take.


[13:44] <Guest23498> upstart sounds very interesting, however I've heard that Ubuntu currently isn't fully migrated from sysvinit - how much, approximately, is there left to do before Ubuntu is fully upstart'ed and/or in which release will this be?


[00:00] <baggy> _XSERVTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to 1777
[00:00] <baggy> what is that suppose to mean
[00:00] <arraybolt3> I don't know, I don't know what you're trying to do.
[00:00] <baggy> i dint do it yet
[00:00] <arraybolt3> Go back just a bit. You're trying to launch an entire DE within WSL. Why?
[00:01] <baggy> be cayse it slow
[00:01] <baggy> right?
[00:01] <kostkon> baggy, file perms? use chown?
[00:01] <arraybolt3> Launching a whole DE in WSL isn't possible.
[00:01] <arraybolt3> kostkon: I think they probably shouldn't do that right now.
[00:01] <arraybolt3> You could cause damage trying to "fix" something that isn't broken.
[00:01] <kostkon> arraybolt3, good call
[00:01] <arraybolt3> This doesn't work because it isn't designed to work yet.
[00:01] <baggy> i thojught ur suppose to chnage the file name
[00:01] <baggy> didnt try
[00:01] <arraybolt3> baggy: if your apps are slow, maybe you're missing the GPU drivers needed?
[00:02] <arraybolt3> See https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/tutorials/gui-apps - it recommends you install drivers to enable virtual GPU so that you can have hardware accelerated graphics for your Linux apps.
[00:02] <baggy> i read it could slow it
[00:02] <arraybolt3> That should fix any "slowness" you notice, as much as can be fixed anyway.
[00:02] <baggy> the tree
[00:02] <baggy> i treed it
[00:02] <baggy> and i thought it was wrong
[00:03] <arraybolt3> You're giving very little details and very vague explanations. Right now without knowing what you're trying to do, it's impossible to tell for sure how to make it work.
[00:03] <arraybolt3> Why are you using `tree`?
[00:03] <arraybolt3> And how big of a directory are you trying to look at anyway?
[00:03] <baggy> _XSERVTransmkdir: Mode of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to 1777
[00:04] <baggy> at startx
[00:04] <arraybolt3> startx won't work. Abandon startx.
[00:04] <arraybolt3> WSL2 explicitly does not support it.
[00:04] <arraybolt3> Whatever you're doing can be done without it.
[00:04] <kostkon> baggy, are you following some kind of tutorial on how to enable x11 in wsl
[00:05] <baggy> ubuntu-desktop-installer
[00:05] <baggy>         ├── 1276
[00:05] <baggy>         ├── 1286
[00:05] <baggy>         ├── common
[00:05] <baggy>         └── current -> 1286
[00:05] <arraybolt3> If you're just trying to look at all the files in a directory, use `tree` and don't worry about "slowness". If you use it on an absolutely massive directory and the slowness is noticable, install the GPU drivers, then install a hardware-accelerated terminal, launch it from the Start Menu, and use that.
[00:06] <baggy> wsl
[00:06] <arraybolt3> 99% of the time though, so-called "slowness" is so negligible you won't care.
[00:07] <baggy> no change then
[00:07] <baggy> ok
[00:07] <baggy> sure?
[00:07] <arraybolt3> Pretty sure at least.
[00:07] <arraybolt3> (depending on what you're asking if I'm sure about - I'm definitely sure you shouldn't try to fix that odd _XSERVTransmkdir error, and I'm also sure you don't need startx to be able to use tree.)
[00:12] <baggy> i never really tried ubuntu except in the past.. :) https://www.howtogeek.com/409115/how-to-delete-files-and-directories-in-the-linux-terminal/ is the tutorial for basics
[00:12] <baggy> now i get some simple commands
[02:36] <Tingo> Hi..
[02:36] <Tingo> Hi, # openssl s_client IP:Port -tls1_2 -trace
[02:37] <Tingo> How can i check which SecLevel is used from above command ?
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> Tingo, Unless you explicately set the SecLevel, it is either set by a configuration file, or going to be negotiated at time of connection
[02:56] <sem> I intend to install ubuntu on a partition of an SSD, and install grub to that disk, and select it from BIOS when I want to boot ubuntu. Does that sound reasonable?
[02:56] <rbox> sure
[02:56] <sem> The other dual-boot problem that I know to head off is to tell Ubuntu to leave the RTC in local time, not UTC
[02:56] <sem> because that will confuse windows
[02:56] <sem> if i don't do that
[02:57] <sem> do you all know of any good trustworthy references for dual boot best practices in this day and age?
[02:57] <rbox> best practice is to just get rid of windows
[02:57] <rbox> :P
[02:58] <sem> thanks that's very helpful
[03:00] <Bashing-om> !dualboot
[03:00] <KernelPanicXD> yo
[03:02] <sem> I appreciate it! Thanks Bashing-om
[03:03] <Bashing-om> sem: No problem - welcome :D
[03:09] <circle> I have the impression that one can configure (recent) windows and linux to use UTC time. The documentation for that used to be easy to find with the old google.
[03:10] <circle> sem ^^^
[03:12] <circle> Hi should I expect an already running 22.04 system to automatically recognize and use monitors that are attached later? Is this possible, impossible, or dependent on some aspect of the hardware? Or is there some way to ask the OS to reassess the available video outputs?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> circle: Old? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - http://www.computerhope.com/unix/udate.htm - http://askubuntu.com/questions/169376/clock-time-is-off-on-dual-boot .
[03:28] <sem> thanks circle
[03:29] <sem> new or old google, my google-fu peaked around 2008 and it has all been downhill since then
[04:27] <tjagannath> Hi
[04:27] <tjagannath> Good Morning
[04:28] <tjagannath> I need support related to openldap
[04:28] <Bashing-om> !ask | tjagannath
[04:29] <Tingo> Hi.. what kind of support in openLdap ?
[04:29] <tjagannath> I am getting error when importing data to openldap
[04:29] <tjagannath> ldap_add: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80) additional info: txn_commit failed
[04:30] <tjagannath> used command to ldapadd
[04:31] <tjagannath> earlier it was working fine.
[04:31] <tjagannath> in the middle of data import it gives me error.
[04:32] <tjagannath> I am getting error when importing data to openldap
[04:36] <Tingo> check OpenLdap Logs for more info..
[05:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i have installed ubuntu with full disk encryption, lvm/luks, now i want to resize the swap because the default setup created only 2GB which is overflowing on my 8gb ram laptop. is this approach correct, https://askubuntu.com/a/1412311/135693
[05:44] <silv3r_m00n> it asks to first resize the root partition to free up space, then resize the swap to grow in the free space
[05:45] <silv3r_m00n> sorry got dc
[05:55] <daydrinking> Your whole drive is  2 partitions? But yes. You need to shrink your partition closest to the swap... I personally would do it as 2 separate actions to make sure the shrink worked right. Reboot then add swap space
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> daydrinking: while installing ubuntu i use guided use whole disk, so yes there is a small boot partition and a bit LVM partition containing root and swap
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> the post suggests first shrinking the root to make free space, then expand the swap to take new space
[05:57] <daydrinking> silv3r_m00n: then yeah. You shouldn't have any issues. Can I ask how often you run out of RAM?
[05:58] <silv3r_m00n> this laptop is a 8gb ram, and with lot of chromium tabs, it struggles with ram just with 20 tabs opened
[05:58] <silv3r_m00n> 7GB/8GB used kind of and 1.5G/2GB swap already used
[06:00] <daydrinking> Interesting. Yeah I'd probably dedicate 8GB for swap. 16GB if you have a large drive
[06:00] <silv3r_m00n> the drive is 256GB mostly empty
[06:00] <silv3r_m00n> i can add 16GB swap without concern
[06:01] <daydrinking> 256 is smll though if you torrent or game or anything like that. But you'll be fine
[08:32] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i put a 256gb sata ssd in an enclosure and installed ubuntu on it using full drive encryption. now i am able to use ubuntu portably across multiple machine and it feels quite productive. are there any other things that can be done to improve this kind of a setup
[08:36] <ikonia> improve in what way
[08:36] <ikonia> personally I don't think booting one install on multiple machines is a good model
[08:37] <akik> if it works, it works
[08:42] <akik> silv3r_m00n: ?
[08:52] <tjon> ελληνικα μονο παιδια .ειμαι νεος
[08:57] <swift110-mobile> Hey all
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:27] <johnfg> hi folks
[13:31] <johnfg> I'm getting an error from the snap-store, about it not being able to update.  Unable to update "Snap Store":  (null): cannot refresh "snap-store": snap "snap-store" has running apps (ubuntu-software), pids: 2014.
[13:32] <ravage> try "kill 2014" in a terminal
[13:37] <johnfg> Got it done.  Some weirdness there, but I guess it's resolved.
[17:03] <sem> Hey all, my graphics are all glitched out, but I still have a mouse that moves around
[17:03] <sem> Going to virtual terminals doesn't unglitch the screen or remove the mouse
[17:04] <sem> It kind of acts like it's on the lock screen with a slideshow, but all glitched out
[17:05] <sem> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969760851101880366/1217156507238404186/d2ccf0dc-0a98-430f-9557-dbc02570cd3c.jpg?ex=66030055&is=65f08b55&hm=90ee696496bf52a0cd2155194eda9e9c8c3d73858acca2b6e6a931b8fbc803a1&
[17:05] <sem> Uuh hold on
[17:06] <sem> Without tracking: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969760851101880366/1217156507238404186/d2ccf0dc-0a98-430f-9557-dbc02570cd3c.jpg
[17:07] <sem> I guess you need those parts of the url after all
[17:07] <sem> My question is: will any of the sysreg shortcuts get me back to a virtual console
[17:11] <sem> I'm un glitched! Alt-Sysreg-f worked to invoke the OOM killer it just took a long time
[17:55] <Sora> i'm trying to run some proprietary gpu software in a vnc but get errors cuda_error_not_initialized and it's only able to detect mesa, not the nvidia graphics card
[17:55] <Sora> how do i run this software under the gpu
[17:55] <Sora> nvidia-smi shows correct driver and cuda version and my gpu
[18:14] <akik> p
[18:59] <Guest9947> Bitcoin .. Captialsim .. ich glaube Powershell ist C++ oder C# .. wie Linux Konsole .. terminal ..
[18:59] <Guest9947> eigentlich Neo
[19:00] <stenno> diggi hier wird englisch gesprochen
[19:00] <leftyfb> Guest9947: this is a support channel
[19:00] <mkou_> yes gespoken uch bin der maumeister und ... Neo is pu$$ y
[19:01] <bprompt> !de | Guest9947
[19:01] <stenno> didn't know this trigger, nice
[19:02] <bprompt> !fr | stenno  // =)
[19:02] <stenno> tres bien
[19:02] <mkou> can you please help me find the name of that terminal that is loading from the either side of the screen and pops out on a shortcut key
[19:03] <bprompt> hmmmmm, is a kde app IIRC, I used it, didn't like it too much
[19:04] <mkou> its not that one
[19:04] <bprompt> eh?
[19:04] <bprompt> mkou: are you referring to Yakuake?
[19:05] <mkou> the name was close to termux
[19:05] <mkou> but its not the one termux
[19:05] <bprompt> well, yakuake does that =P
[19:06] <mkou> its not yakuake
[19:06] <mkou> but I will check it, might be good
[19:07] <bprompt> yakuake slides IN/OUT of the edges
[19:07] <mkou> left and right side possible?
[19:08] <bprompt> mkou:  yeap, is configurable from what I recall
[19:09] <mkou> ill give it a chance, but I really wish to find the one I used, the name was very close to termux
[19:10] <mkou> checked all "top 10 terminals" guides, no luck yet  :D
[19:10] <bprompt> hehe, and google's search AI help blows, heheh, doesn't show much
[19:11] <mkou> naturally shifted to duck 6-7 years ago
[19:12] <mkou> occasionally do a search on google, when on a fresh install and cant believe my eyes :D
[19:12] <leftyfb> mkou: tilda
[19:12] <mkou> leftyfb,
[19:12] <mkou> yes
[19:12] <mkou> i think it was tilda
[19:12] <mkou> man
[19:13] <bprompt> ahemm, tilda is not even close to termux :P
[19:13] <bprompt> I mean, name wise
[19:14] <mkou> no its not tilda, saw it in the top 10 suggestions
[19:15] <mkou> leave it, I will find it eventually and will share it here, you will love it
[19:18] <bprompt> mkou: were you running it before? was it installed?
[19:18] <bprompt> I mean, you can check logs
[19:19] <mkou> was long time ago
[19:19] <mkou> maybe an year
[19:19] <mkou> did few fresh installs since then
[19:20] <bprompt> mkou: then check your local hypnotist then =)
[19:20] <mkou> but do you know what Im thinking
[19:21] <bprompt> mkou:  yes, yakuake does that, slide from the edges in and out
[19:21] <mkou> ill try it
[19:22] <mkou> but listen, if cat is printing a file's content, while grep is searching for a string through files
[19:23] <mkou> right, so cat file | grep string
[19:23] <mkou> should be much better than just grep string
[19:23] <leftyfb> why?
[19:23] <leftyfb> grep string file
[19:23] <mkou> in terms of loading too much in the server
[19:23] <leftyfb> cat | grep spawns 2 processes
[19:24] <leftyfb> grep is only 1
[19:24] <leftyfb> cat | grep is pointless
[19:24] <mkou> I know, grep file string does what cat | grep string does,
[19:24] <leftyfb> except with twice the number of processes running
[19:24] <mkou> but m
[19:25] <mkou> but if you cat the file and grep from it, you are grepping one file
[19:26] <leftyfb> if you grep a file you are grepping one file
[19:26] <mkou> if you grep a directory, you are searching thought files and directories
[19:26] <mkou> so grep is heavier than cat + grep
[19:26] <leftyfb> huh?
[19:26] <mkou> I am not arguing , just trying to understand it
[19:27] <leftyfb> why would you compare cat | grep a file to grepping an entire directory structure recursively?
[19:27] <leftyfb> obviously cat file is only 1 file and grep -R will search all files
[19:28] <leftyfb> but if you already know the file name, then just use grep on the file name
[19:28] <leftyfb> if you don't know the file name, then cat isn't going to work regardless
[19:28] <leftyfb> unless you find | xargs | cat every file and then grep, which would be more resource intensive than just recursive grep
[19:29] <mkou> grep <string> from while in any directory vs cat file | grep <string>  from the print
[19:29] <leftyfb> grep <string> file
[19:30] <leftyfb> you seem to want to compare apples and oranges here
[19:31] <mkou> mhm ok
[19:31] <leftyfb> obviously if you grep every file in a directory structure it's going to take more resources/time than cat file | grep <string>. But you seem to keep ignoring the fact that you know the filename and can just use grep <string> file
[19:32] <mkou> yep make sens now
[20:01] <fox> hello
[20:03] <bprompt> jello
[20:03] <bprompt> !ask | fox
[20:59] <Tingo> Hi
[21:00] <Tingo> $ openssl s_client -connect IP:Port -tls1_2 -trace
[21:01] <Tingo> how can i know that which Level of Communcation was it ? or By Default which Level used?
[21:02] <Tingo> or it depends on RSA Key Size e.g 4096 ?
[21:02] <Tingo> of Server*
[21:05] <Tingo> AnyOne ?
[21:15] <akik> Tingo: try with curl: curl --tlsv1.2 --tls-max 1.2 -v https://www.google.com/ 2>&1 |less
[21:17] <Tingo> Thanks for reply, Curl will show that which SecLevel was used in between communications ?
[21:17] <Tingo> actually i am testing few things locally in between my own OpenSSL Server and Client..
[21:18] <Tingo> # openssl s_server -key www.key_no_pass -cert www.cert -accept 4433 -tls1_2
[21:18] <Tingo> $ openssl s_client -connect IP:4433 -tls1_2
[21:21] <Tingo> i want to traceout that which SecLevel (0-6) was used by default or normally in between Communcation..
[21:29] <Tingo> # openssl ciphers -s -v DEFAULT:@SECLEVEL=2
[21:29] <Tingo> # openssl ciphers -s -v DEFAULT:@SECLEVEL=1
[21:31] <bprompt> Tingo: tried ##openssl yet?
[21:31] <Tingo> No one was replying their..
[21:32] <bprompt> Tingo: there's also #openssl, yes they're different
[21:33] <bprompt> Tingo: there's also a #libressl channel
[21:33] <Tingo> i try to find out myself : $ openssl s_client -connect IP:4433 -tls1_2 -trace
[21:33] <Tingo> $ openssl s_client -connect <IP_ADDRESS>:4433 -tls1_2 -debug
[21:46] <Tingo> hmm its in between 1 -2 (3-6) are too strict Ciphers..
[21:51] <ZaY> hi
[21:51] <ZaY> I install applications on ubun and I want to uninstall them
[21:51] <ZaY> please
[21:54] <Tingo> $ sudo apt purge Application_Name
[21:54] <Tingo> which kind of application is it ?
[21:56] <ZaY> i need to uninstall server and anop
[21:56] <ZaY> please
[21:56] <Tingo> Which Type of Applications are those ?
[21:58] <ZaY> urealircd and anope
[22:00] <ZaY> E: Unable to locate package anope-2.0.15
[22:00] <ZaY> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'anope-2.0.15'
[22:02] <Tingo> hope so you have been compiled urealircd App ?
[22:04] <Tingo> hmm.. its compiled/build based apps, so find out its Source code folder which was used for compiling it..
[22:05] <Tingo> $ cd /Path/to/Source/urealircd/
[22:05] <Tingo> $ sudo make uninstall all
[22:05] <stenno> uhm
[22:05] <ZaY> ok
[22:05] <Tingo> $ cd /Path/to/Source/anope/
[22:06] <Tingo> $ make uninstall all
[22:06] <stenno> Tingo: stop
[22:06] <Tingo> $ sudo make uninstall all
[22:06] <Tingo> opss .. did i said wronge ?
[22:07] <ZaY> make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'. Stop.
[22:11] <Tingo> do you know where did you installed unrealircd App ? i meant in which folder is it..?
[22:14] <stenno> Tingo: for help with ircd, probably ask in #libera directly
[22:14] <ZaY> I want to uninstall all applications on ~/home/ubuntu
[22:25] <oerheks> If one build it right, there is an Uninstall
[23:03] <derek-shnosh> Ubuntu 23.10, Gnome 45.2, Kernel 6.5.0-25-generic... all of the sudden my USB-C connected display is not working. This is what I gleaned from journalctl: https://dpaste.com/BYM48EM4J
[23:04] <oerheks> derek-shnosh, does it get solved with pull and plug in again?
[23:04] <derek-shnosh> oerheks: no, it does not.
[23:04] <oerheks> happens sometimes with my system too, dvi and hdmi.
[23:05] <derek-shnosh> Also, my two other displays and NIC on my Dell dock are not working, but all USB devices connected to the dock are.
[23:05] <oerheks> oke, then i have no clue. found nothing usefull here in logs
[23:05] <oerheks> ah, dock, important info.
[23:06] <derek-shnosh> Hold on though.
[23:06] <derek-shnosh> One display is direct connected to my USB-C, cable just goes from USB-C to HDMI (no dongle, full cable).
[23:06] <derek-shnosh> The other two displays are on the dock (diff USB-C port).
[23:09] <pragmaticenigma> derek-shnosh: Have you tried powering down everything, including the dock... then turning things back on again?
[23:09] <derek-shnosh> pragmaticenigma: Yes I have. Even left everything disconnected and unplugged for an hour while running errands.
[23:10] <oerheks> pragmaticenigma, for me it happens with cold boot too
[23:11] <pragmaticenigma> just making sure the tried and true wasn't so tried and true
[23:11] <pragmaticenigma> :)
[23:11] <derek-shnosh> Typically I have to reseat the direct connected USB-C cable on boot, or power cycle the dock, to get the displays working... now they just won't.
[23:12] <pragmaticenigma> derek-shnosh: what about process of elimination? or removing everything and then re-adding one at a time?
[23:12] <derek-shnosh> I have, yes. Disconnected Dell dock, disconnected USB-C <> HDMI cable.
[23:13] <derek-shnosh> Then reconnect just the single display USB-C <> HDMI.
[23:13] <derek-shnosh> Sorry, its USB-C <> DP
[23:16] <pragmaticenigma> I'm stumped... hopefully the machine standalone works okay
[23:20] <derek-shnosh> pragmaticenigma: it does... but, my productivity pixel real estate is severely diminished.
[23:20] <derek-shnosh> missing out on 2x 2K displays and 1x 4K.
[23:22] <derek-shnosh> Going to boot off live USB and see if it persists.
[23:43] <derek-shnosh> Well this is very frustrating.
[23:56] <derek-shnosh> pragmaticenigma & oerheks : Culprit was hardware somehow (Lenovo Slim 7 ProX)...  Then powered it backup and loaded BIOS defaults and let it boot. Displays are working again.
[23:57] <derek-shnosh> Was prompted by this thread: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Laptops/Lenovo-Slim-7-ProX-14ARH7-not-detecting-my-external-monitor/m-p/5233873


[02:59] <CrazytalesAway> last five hours only activity is joins/parts
[04:20] <lguerra> hi all
[10:54] <cstextiles> My Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message
[10:54] <cstextiles> A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows
[10:58] <juliux> mornin
[10:58] <juliux> g
[10:59] <cstextiles> My Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message
[10:59] <cstextiles> A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows
[11:03] <juliux> cstextiles, what is the last thing you can read at f4 window?
[11:04] <cstextiles> Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)
[11:04] <cstextiles> But after some time the screen goes blank
[11:04] <cstextiles> and remains blank indefinitely
[11:04] <juliux> how long you wait?
[11:04] <cstextiles> for half an hour
[11:05] <cstextiles> I was in the F4 mode and then the screen got blank
[11:05] <cstextiles> Then I tried F1 or other function keys but nothing happened
[11:05] <juliux> hm then i have no idea what it could be
[11:06] <cstextiles> Before that this message comes "Warning: fake start-stop daemon called doing nothing"
[04:12] <bddebian> Heya
[04:28] <jori> hello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ?
[05:30] <jori> hello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ?
[05:31] <juliux> jori, it depends on the soundcard, but general you can use the sound card from the client
[05:32] <jori> juliux: whats the magicline in the config i can use esd over the network but that just won't do the job for firefox flashplayer
[05:32] <juliux> jori, in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf add the option SOUND=True
[05:33] <jori> already there it only works for esd not for dsp sound
[05:33] <juliux> jori, see http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig
[05:33] <juliux> i think there is only esd support and now dsp support
[05:33] <juliux> but you can use esd on your thinclient
[05:35] <jori> juliux: how the hell do i tell firefox and flashplayer inside of firefox to talk over esd sins if i just say use esd they try to start esd locally
[05:35] <juliux> jori, test to set it in the gnome audio settings under system->settings->audio
[05:36] <jori> juliux: i'm runnen xfce4 :P but esd works tested in xmms
[05:38] <juliux> try to start firefox from a terminal with esddsp firefox
[05:39] <jori> no feedback from the console ( firefox sound is now setup to auto it was setup to none ) and no sound
[05:39] <jori> do i need to set it to dsp ?
[05:41] <juliux> you can try it
[05:41] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:41] <jori> hmmm noting already try -m but stil nu result
[05:41] <juliux> i never used sound on the thinclient, because i have an unsupportet audio chip in my thinclients
[05:42] <jori> juliux: most of my thin clients are use for interneting but i'm getting complanes about flashplayer audio
[05:44] <jori> strange it is that firefox is like the only app that try's and START esd :S al othere apps just take the remote esd connect like its the default 1
[05:54] <christopher> Hello, question on minimum spec for edubuntu?
[05:54] <christopher> how much ram is needed?
[05:55] <stgraber> 256MB
[05:56] <juliux> christopher, 32mb for a client, server 256MB + 128MB for every thinclient
[05:56] <jori> stgraber: serieusly damit edubuntu is a memory eater :p
[05:56] <christopher> ok, for a stand alone with X 64mb won't be much use?
[05:57] <jori> christopher: my advies woud be try xubuntu
[05:57] <juliux> christopher, not with gnome with xfce perhaps
[05:57] <jori> juliux: lol :P
[05:57] <christopher> no, we *need* the education stuff to work out of the box.
[05:58] <juliux> christopher, you can use the apps also with xfce
[05:58] <christopher> does edubuntu have xfce?
[05:58] <juliux> you can install it
[05:58] <juliux> but the default is gnome
[05:59] <christopher> ok, thats no use really.
[05:59] <jori> juliux: it woud probley be easy to install xubuntu and then de edu stuff
[05:59] <juliux> jori, that is also possible
[05:59] <christopher> we're looking at sending the disks to Schools in Africa, i.e. no internet.
[05:59] <christopher> it needs to work out the box.
[06:00] <jori> christopher: pre make you're own xedubuntu then ;)
[06:00] <Rondom> isn't there some spec for xedubuntu for feisty?
[06:01] <jori> Rondom: if i say pre make you're own it means there is none offical release ;)
[06:01] <Rondom> jori: I know
[06:01] <jori> christopher: you coud include the right .debs en edit the installer to install them :)
[06:01] <christopher> i know i *could* but is that realistic?
[06:02] <jori> why not ? if you really need to edu stuff i think its you're change unless samebody else know a othere way around it
[06:03] <christopher> any ideas as to where to point me as for a guide to do such a thing?
[06:04] <Rondom> jori: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Xedubuntu?highlight=%28Xedubuntu%29
[06:04] <Rondom> ^ i think this was what I was remembering
[06:05] <jori> Rondom: i ownstyle just made the name op because its a mix of edubbuntu and xubuntu :P
[06:05] <christopher> hm, where can i find the *.deb files?
[06:05] <Rondom> jori: I know
[06:05] <jori> edubuntu disk en xubuntu disk probley
[06:05] <jori> btw don't you give them pc's ? only a os ?
[06:05] <christopher> yeh we give them pc's, but they are all donated.
[06:06] <christopher> i.e. 64mb of ram is impressive
[06:06] <jori> christopher: pre install them you're self then :S
[06:06] <christopher> still need the deb files...
[06:07] <jori> just look on the disks
[06:07] <christopher> i only have an edubuntu disk
[06:08] <jori> hehehe you're faster then me this time :P
[06:09] <christopher> :P
[06:10] <christopher> so then if i extract the xfce *.deb files from that, put them on a cd then install them onto the edubuntu install that won't run due to lack of ram ?
[06:10] <christopher> will magic happen?
[06:11] <jori> hehehe you need the install disk that 1 wil run under you're normal ram etleast xfce4 i did't do mutch whit edubuntu
[06:12] <jori> i'm only here because i'm using xfce4 ltsp
[06:12] <jori> xubuntu ltsp *
[06:12] <christopher> so your saying install xubu 1st then install the educational stuff from edub cd?
[06:13] <jori> jeb :)
[06:13] <jori> that woud be the way i woud do it
[06:14] <christopher> hmm, this isn't looking as easy as I was selling it to be
[06:15] <jori> hehehe never sell the dear before you shoot it ;)
[06:15] <christopher> http://streetlites.org/ , we've been screwed over by M$ when it comes to licences so i've been pushing to get Linux out there instead, finally they start to listen then oops.
[06:15] <christopher> I'll try selling them the idea of a custom cd for us...
[06:16] <christopher> might work...
[06:16] <jori> persoonal i'm agianst project like that but hey thats a hole othere story...
[06:17] <christopher> hmm, can swap make up for ram ?
[06:17] <jori> yes and no
[06:18] <jori> anybody here know a simple way of explaning the hole swap story :P
[06:18] <christopher> when it comes to gnome long enough to install xfce?
[06:19] <jori> swap is alwase slower then ram so it maby run but then it wil run like crap
[06:21] <christopher> hmmm
[06:21] <christopher> installing Edubuntu now...
[06:21] <christopher> see how badly it falls over.
[06:21] <jori> its installing thats a +
[06:22] <christopher> under "low memory" mode./
[06:22] <jori> wtf is low memory mode :P
[06:22] <christopher> i don't know, seen as it's a text based installer I don't see there is much to disable...
[06:23] <jori> just see what happens w8 a sec stopid fuckers in my cs server agian need to play admin agian
[06:36] <christopher> ok, got xubuntu cd
[06:36] <christopher> iso
[06:36] <Rondom> jori: the spec (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-xfce-desktop) was deferred :-(
[06:42] <christopher> would I just need the deb's relating to xfce4 ?
[06:49] <christopher> i.e. pool/main/x/xfce4*
[07:00] <christopher> k3b
[07:00] <christopher> k3b
[07:00] <christopher> argh
[08:19] <yodaz> hi all
[08:19] <yodaz> I can get ltsp to work with dapper, ldm does not log on, it flashes the screen and then return to log in prompt, anybody have an idea ?
[08:20] <yodaz> I have done ltsp-update-sshkeys without success
[08:20] <yodaz> I have tried with xdmcp, but I have no keyboard when I want to type the login/pass
[08:20] <yodaz> I don't know what's wrong :(
[08:37] <yodaz> is there a way to have some debug log or so with ltsp ?
[08:39] <juliux> yodaz, do you have sabayon installed?
[08:39] <juliux> yodaz, did you tested to set the x-color-depth to 16 ?
[08:41] <yodaz> juliux: sabayon is not installed
[08:42] <yodaz> I try to force to 16 bit, with lts.conf, but same stuff
[08:43] <yodaz> I have set this : X_COLOR_DEPTH     = 16
[08:43] <juliux> ok
[08:44] <yodaz> the distrib is ubuntu dapper, with normal repository (dapper-updates, backports, security, and universe/multiverse)
[09:01] <yodaz> juliux: do you know if there's a way to have a logfile of errors that could happens on ltsp client ?
[10:30] <yodaz> juliux: I have succeed with xdmcp, and the option SCREEN_O7 = startx
[10:46] <cbx33> hi anyone ;)
[10:48] <yodaz> hi cbx33
[11:08] <yodaz> ++
[11:58] <achandra> Hello is there a PPC version of edubuntu that allows you to either install or run thin client for G4s over the network??
[11:59] <Burgwork> achandra: yes
[12:00] <achandra> Burghwork: where can I find the "how to" to do the afore mentioned question
[12:00] <achandra> Burgwork: I have sucessfully converted a few G4s in the lab using cdroms, but the tedium of it.....id much rather do a network install.
[12:01] <Burgwork> do you want thin clients or fat clients?
[12:01] <achandra> Burgwork: well...considering the school cant spend money on a dual xeon to support all clients..itll have to be fat for now.
[12:01] <Burgwork> right
[12:02] <achandra> Burgwork: so lets assume a network install, with TFTP, DHCP .
[12:02] <achandra> over NFS or HTTP.
[12:02] <Burgwork> you could also use kickstart
[12:02] <achandra> centos...right?
[12:03] <Burgwork> kickstart works in ubuntu
[12:03] <achandra> you just answered my question..
[12:03] <Burgwork> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[12:03] <achandra> ahhh
[12:03] <achandra> okay
[12:03] <achandra> so you can adapt a response file to install
[12:04] <achandra> and on MAC what is the "majic" key to do the network install?
[12:04] <achandra> i know "c" is for cdrom and
[12:04] <achandra> network??
[12:04] <achandra> (sorry a little lazy)....i can google that...but you can save mne some grief


[00:02] <ojwb> chilts: it doesn't seem to mention a brand other than android - i guess it's some cheap noname brand
[00:02] <chilts> yeah, and 256MB memory doesn't seem a great deal
[00:06] <ojwb> it's impressive that you can get a probably usable machine for that price now though
[00:07] <chilts> true
[01:07] <hads> G: I've been talking to the R Pi guys, one thing that is concerning is that at least some of the drivers are binary blob with an NDA covering them.
[01:08] <ojwb> ick
[01:08] <hads> "The is a binary blob that runs on the GPU – this is closed source, but there are drivers that run on the Arm that give access to the GPU features ie OpenGLES, OpenVG etc. The device boots the GPU first, the bootloader loads the GPU with this binary blob, then Linux is booted on the Arm."
[01:12] <hads> I haven't yet decided whether that effects my original decision to bring them in or not.
[01:29] <mwhudson> hads: that's the case for pretty much anything ARM powered aiui
[02:35] <ibeardsl1e> \q
[02:35] <ibeardslee> that's better
[02:35] <hads> Oh dear. Food composition database released as tilde delimited text files, packed in an MSI installer file.
[02:35] <ibeardslee> does the logo on this site seem familiar .. www.nzma.ac.nz ?
[02:36] <ajmitch> yep, have seen that site before
[02:40] <ibeardslee> do the canonical people think that is worth canonical following up with?
[02:48]  * mwhudson has no idea
[02:48] <ajmitch> probably unlikely given how many similar logos there have been
[02:48] <ajmitch> http://www.brandinfection.com/2005/04/25/msn-spaces-steals-ubuntu-logo/ from a few years ago
[05:42] <G> hads: ahhh right, binary blobs, that goes against the 'open source hardware' bit I guess
[18:35] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:55] <chilts> morning
[19:24] <ajmitch> morning
[19:35] <Atamira> morning
[20:24] <mwhudson> morning


[00:53] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[02:00] <ahoneybun_> Howdy
[02:30] <valorie> hi ahoneybun_
[02:43] <ahoneybun> hello
[02:49] <ahoneybun> valorie: https://trello.com/c/0OP7TUc7/67-delete-old-docs-from-kubuntu-org-doc
[02:50] <valorie> super!
[02:51] <ahoneybun> yep
[02:52] <ahoneybun> I started getting the installation pages pushed over
[02:53] <valorie> that is a lovely xmas gift to Kubuntu!
[02:54] <ahoneybun> the old docs getting removed?
[02:54] <valorie> getting the rest of the wiki stuff moved
[02:54] <valorie> yes, and getting the old docs gone as well
[02:55] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:55] <valorie> it's fine to have old versions archived, but when folks google, the current stuff should pop to the top
[02:56] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:58] <ahoneybun> just need to get some fresh eyes on the pages that have been moved to userbase so we can push them to the translators
[03:01] <valorie> perhaps write to -devel and some folks will have time over the holidays
[03:04] <ahoneybun> yea
[04:20] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm getting the images over from the old wiki
[04:27] <valorie> good deal
[04:27] <ahoneybun> I'm becoming good at mediawiki as well
[04:28] <ahoneybun> very similar rules as moinmoin
[04:28] <valorie> sure, it's a wiki
[04:28] <valorie> but nifty tools on top of that
[04:28] <ahoneybun> but still
[04:28] <ahoneybun> yea very nice tools
[04:29] <ahoneybun> this is going to be a amazing release for the docs
[04:29] <valorie> the wikipedia usage means that lots of testing is done
[04:29] <valorie> mediawiki is the future, while moin is the past
[04:31] <ahoneybun> http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation/DiskSetup'
[04:32] <ahoneybun> love the note and warning system
[04:32] <ahoneybun> anyway brb
[04:34] <valorie> excellent
[04:34] <valorie> I like the link to the ubuntu diskspace page
[04:58] <ahoneybun> back
[05:00] <ahoneybun> christmas eve
[05:01] <ahoneybun> valorie: so all the pages have been moved over
[05:04] <valorie> \o/
[05:05] <valorie> I noticed that you have removed most of the construction tags
[05:05] <ahoneybun> yep
[05:05] <ahoneybun> I believe so
[05:05] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:05] <valorie> that says that they are done
[05:05] <valorie> and ready for translation
[05:05] <ahoneybun> maybe add a note tag about them needing to be read
[05:06] <valorie> if you want people to check them first, we should put the construction tag back
[05:06] <ahoneybun> proof read
[05:06] <valorie> ok
[05:06] <valorie> did you add the categories you want?
[05:06] <ahoneybun> I'll leave a note
[05:06] <ahoneybun> not yet going to look into that
[05:06] <ahoneybun> now
[05:06] <valorie> ok
[05:07] <ahoneybun> how do you do that?
[05:07] <valorie> like I said, look at the amarok manual pages in the edit view
[05:07] <valorie> we'll want category Kubuntu and version number, at least
[05:08] <ahoneybun> yea' on all the pages?
[05:08] <valorie> yes
[05:08] <valorie> and if you want others, for more fine-grain, that's fine
[05:08] <valorie> just pick a system and we'll keep to it
[05:09] <ahoneybun> I see
[05:09] <valorie> so for instance when this cycle is done, we can quickly see which pages have been updated and which still need doing
[05:09] <valorie> just by searching for the category
[05:11] <ahoneybun> excellent point
[05:11] <valorie> sec
[05:16] <ahoneybun> added categories and the note about proofread
[05:17] <valorie> well, why a note?
[05:17] <valorie> that is what the construction tag is for
[05:18] <valorie> that tells the translators to wait
[05:18] <ahoneybun> ok I'll change it
[05:19] <ahoneybun> ok done
[05:22] <ahoneybun> so all the pages are moved over, categories placed, construction tags placed, just need proofreading
[05:24] <valorie> awesome!
 is this the right address right?
[05:24]  * valorie gets out the magick wand to make devels WANT to read over the pages
[05:24] <valorie> for the users, yes
[05:25] <valorie> if you want devels, it is -devel not -user
[05:25] <valorie> err
[05:25] <valorie> let me check whether or not it is -users or -user
[05:26] <valorie> -users
[05:26] <valorie> i hate fiddly stuff like that
[05:26] <ahoneybun> so I'm right?
[05:26] <valorie> yes
[05:28] <ahoneybun> working on the email to both lists
[05:33] <ahoneybun> darn kmail
[05:33] <ahoneybun> cant get it setup to send mail
[05:34] <ahoneybun> just used webclient
[05:34] <valorie> that was my problem years ago
[05:35] <valorie> it received mail just fine
[05:35] <valorie> but one day stopped sending it
[05:35] <valorie> and ever since it's crashed on startup
[05:35] <valorie> haven't tried again for awhile
[05:36] <ahoneybun> it has to be setup right
[05:39] <valorie> yes, and there is something key I'm doing wrong
[05:39] <valorie> for now, gmail is fine
[05:39] <valorie> one of these days I'll have time to mess with it
[05:40] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:40] <ahoneybun> I couldn't be happier with this move
[05:40] <valorie> I really loved it, and it's still my favorite
[05:40] <valorie> I've tried a lot of 'em over the years
[05:41] <valorie> from pine on
[05:41] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:47] <ahoneybun> oh
[05:47] <valorie> oh?
[05:53] <ahoneybun> nothing
[06:08] <ahoneybun> I just saw that comment about the magic wand lol
[06:08] <valorie> :-)
[06:09] <valorie> and I do have such a wand
[06:09] <valorie> ooo, I just noticed that my clever husband found and put up the stockings
[06:11] <ahoneybun> nice lol
[06:14] <ahoneybun> we got a new follower on the google+ page for the docs
[06:18] <valorie> cool
[06:20] <ahoneybun> also posted our need for people on our google+ pag
[06:23] <valorie> good move
[06:25] <ahoneybun> yep
[06:33] <ahoneybun> anyway off to bed for netflix lol
[06:33] <jalcine> o
[06:33] <jalcine> *o/
[06:34] <valorie> niters ahoneybun
[06:34] <valorie> hi jalcine
[06:34] <jalcine> hey valorie
[06:34] <jalcine> what's keeping you up?
[06:34] <ahoneybun> valorie: same to you one day we need to have a video chat lol
[06:35] <valorie> jalcine: it's only 10:30!
[06:35]  * ahoneybun watches Ramsey /away
[06:35]  * valorie watches doctor who
[06:39] <jalcine> it's 1:30 here :$
[06:39] <jalcine> I actually just got here about an hour ago
[06:39] <jalcine> home for the holidays \o/
[06:40] <jalcine> going to read more into C++ and TDD so I can be of some use
[09:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:23] <Riddell> hola
[09:23] <Riddell> valorie: christmas special tomorrow!
[09:25] <lordievader> Riddell: The Christmas Special of Dr. Who?
[09:25] <Riddell> yes
[09:26] <Riddell> but first, birthday special!
[09:26] <lordievader> Whoo nice :) Lets see if I can convince my family to watch it.
[11:52] <Quintasan> Riddell: It is your birthday, isn't it?
[11:53] <Quintasan> Happy Birthday in that case
[11:53] <Quintasan> kubotu: order party for Riddell
[11:53]  * kubotu gives everyone a party hat and a hand full of conffeti.
[11:53]  * kubotu turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball.
[11:53] <kubotu> Riddell: wanna dance with me? :-)
[11:53]  * kubotu starts shaking her tight ass
[11:55] <xnox> Quintasan: kubotu: that's just wrong. =)
[11:56] <Quintasan> xnox: Ask apachelogger about those lines
[11:56] <Quintasan> I'm responsible for the alcohol ones
[11:56] <Quintasan> :P
[11:56] <apachelogger> booze baby, booze
[11:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: happy bday honey
[11:57] <Quintasan> well
[12:08] <yofel> you scared him away ^^
[12:08] <yofel> happy birthday Riddell!
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:20] <elcaset> Thanks for all of your work on Kubuntu, Riddell, & happy birthday, too :)>
[13:20] <elcaset> Hi
[16:13] <Riddell> aww, thanks Quintasan, apachelogger_, yofel
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: happy birthday!
[16:21] <mitya57> Happy birthday Riddell! :)
[16:23] <Riddell> thanks shadeslayer, mitya57 :)
[16:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: happy birthday
[16:58] <Riddell> thanks ahoneybun!
[17:08] <ahoneybun> np
[18:03] <soee> i would like to see/get something like that: https://plus.google.com/117780268233281641238/posts/hcrBb5KZ4v4
[18:03] <soee> but with Kubuntu logo -:)
[18:14] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1263973] package libqtgui4 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy extracted d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1263973 (by Ronald Nelson)
[20:22] <falktx> hey guys, short question here
[20:22] <falktx> in 12.04 kubuntu backports ppa, only kde-runtime and a few other packages have been updated to 4.12
[20:22] <falktx> everything else is on 4.11.x
[20:23] <falktx> is there a reason for this?
[20:24] <falktx> also, I have a custom kde-runtime package on my ppa which depends on these backports, but it can't be built because nepomuk is still on 4.11.3
[20:24] <falktx> since the ppa where these packages are built is private (https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa) I don't know what to do...
[20:26] <falktx> I'd appreciate to get some answers, thanks
[20:47] <yofel> uh, that doesn't look right at all
[20:48] <yofel> falktx: I'm resyncing all the packages so the missing ones get copied
[20:48] <yofel> Riddell: I think your copy script has a bug ^^
[20:48] <falktx> yofel: so it was likely a script error?
[20:49] <yofel> probably, I can't see any other obvious reason
[20:49]  * yofel off for the rest of the evening
[20:51] <falktx> maybe it's because the ppa is on its limits?
[20:51] <falktx> 22.5 GiB (93.75%) of 24.0 GiB
[21:04] <vHanda> What is the problem with Nepomuk?
[21:19] <falktx> it's still on 4.11.3
[21:19] <falktx> while some of the packages are on 4.12
[21:20] <falktx> vHanda: kde-runtime was built against nepomuk 4.12, but that version is not in the ppa
[21:20] <falktx> it was not copied over
[21:20] <vHanda> okay. So packaging problem, nothing wrong with nepomuk
[21:21] <falktx> correct
[23:28] <ahoneybun> Hey guys


[06:55] <ara> morning all!
[07:33] <ara> morning davmor2
[07:33] <davmor2> Morning ara
[07:58] <davmor2> sbeattie: you still with us?
[07:58] <sbeattie> just barely, about to disappear.
[07:59] <davmor2> the fix for manual partitioning should be in todays image :)
[08:00] <sbeattie> heh, yeah, I already tested it by running yesterday's live cd and doing an update to ubiquity within it. :-)
[08:01] <davmor2> :)
[11:28] <asac> hi., in case you run upgrade tests, please keep your eyes open and verify that bug 277084 is fixed by current nm applet
[12:07] <mvo> if someone has a i386 install/upgrade, please test if synaptics quick search hangs when you type "li"
[12:49] <ara> mvo: it happens to me too
[12:50] <mvo> ara: thanks, could you please rebuild it (apt-get build-dep synaptic; apt-get source -b synaptic) and see if that fixes the issue? it did for me
[12:54] <ara> mvo: building...
[12:54] <mvo> thanks ara
[13:15] <ara> mvo: no luck in my case. it still hangs
[13:48] <mvo> ara: ok, thanks
[14:23] <heno> The Install icon no longer appears for me on the Kubuntu Live CD desktop, though I can launch install from the menu
[14:25] <heno> Riddell, is that known?
[14:27] <Riddell> heno: yeah, my fault, I fixed it this morning in casper
[14:27] <heno> Riddell: ok, cool
[21:31] <Zergy> ayé
[21:31] <Zergy> Je suis passé à la 8.10
[21:31] <Zergy> Le dist-upgrade à chié dans la colle au delà de toute espérances. :transpi:


[01:47] <dep> ho
[02:54] <ipatrol> this latest Xfce update completely trashed the theme
[03:06] <ipatrol> is there any reason why greybird is suddenly two shades lighter?
[03:33] <Unit193> What Xfce update?  Do a release jump?
[03:34] <ipatrol> I don't know, maybe it's not it. All I know is I did `apt full-upgrade`, and when I restarted my desktop was much lighter than before
[03:35] <Unit193> Nothing should have changed unless you have ppas, then.
[03:37] <ipatrol> Unit193: none that have any theme or xfce packages
[03:44] <ipatrol> Unit193: would a screenshot help?
[03:45] <Unit193> apt-cache policy greybird-gtk-theme | pastebiit  perhaps.
[03:45] <Unit193> pastebinit, rather.
[03:45] <Unit193> ipatrol: In theory a screenshot could help to see if it really is off, sure.
[03:46] <ipatrol> one sec
[03:50] <ipatrol> Unit193: http://imgur.com/N5A3cID
[03:53] <ipatrol> Unit193: also, version is 2.0.2-0ubuntu1 from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily/universe amd64 Packages
[03:57] <Unit193> ipatrol: That's Adwaita.  Check 'Window Manager' and 'Appearance', make sure both have Greybird selected.
[03:58] <Unit193> More specifically, the window borders for that terminal are.
[03:58] <ipatrol> Unit193: they're both set to Greybird
[03:59] <Unit193> Select something else then select Greybird.  It's either that or apt-get --reinstall install greybird-gtk-theme.  That border is certainly not Greybird.
[03:59] <Unit193> Something has been bumped somewhere, lovely..
[04:03] <ipatrol> Unit193: reinstalling and restarting xfwm4 did nothing
[04:03] <ipatrol> Unit193: "bumped"?
[04:17] <krytarik> ipatrol: Try the Guest session, and have a look at '/var/log/apt/history.log'.
[04:21] <ipatrol> krytarik: nothing there, trying unzipped history.log.1
[04:58] <ipatrol> I've reset pretty much everything and it's still not fixed
[05:06] <krytarik> ipatrol: Did you follow my advice then?
[05:06] <ipatrol> krytarik: every last bit
[05:07] <krytarik> I'm asking because you didn't mention the Guest session showing the same behavior.
[05:10] <ipatrol> krytarik: bingo! the guest session has the same good old Ubuntu Studio look
[05:22] <krytarik> ipatrol: Check for any of these, messing with things: '~/.gtkrc-2.0', '~/.themes', '~/.local/share/themes'.
[05:24] <ipatrol> the first exists
[05:25] <ipatrol> removed, restarting session...
[05:28] <ipatrol> krytarik: thank you, all is right with the world now :-)
[05:29] <krytarik> Yay.
[05:30] <ipatrol> apparently it was something KDE had created
[05:31] <ipatrol> krytarik: what does it do, exactly?
[05:33] <krytarik> ipatrol: That first file?  Override GTK+ settings.
[05:34] <ipatrol> *_*
[05:34] <ipatrol> why?
[16:30] <h4x0riz3d> how can i tell whether i have rights to access the serial ports of the computer? (specifically usb-serial)
[16:53] <OvenWerk1> h4x0riz3d: you may need to be part of the dialout group.
[16:53] <h4x0riz3d> yeah, i was, but i guess it required a logout to take effect
[16:54] <OvenWerk1> yes. group additions need a new login to take effect.
[19:58] <h4x0riz3d> the display calibration thing in the settings doesn't open anything
[20:00] <h4x0riz3d> does it require some external device to operate? i really want to just manually adjust the color curves.. nothing fancy