[20:03] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, i do understand that, but because they come with different applications and libraries i found they get meshed together and not easy to disentangle after
[20:03] <dithi_> maverick: it's qtparted
[20:03] <ctw> dithi_: intel 915, i810 driver
[20:03] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, yes libxine1-ffmpeg or some thing like it
[20:03] <dithi_> hm.. no idea, I always used twinview with nvidia-settings
[20:04] <lee986321> if I need to I ca nload the 64 bit verson of Ubuntu and pratcie with that
[20:04] <[ka]killer> i have libxine1-ffmpeg installed and im still haivn gproblems
[20:04] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: use something like aptitude to install the others; yeah different as much as works with both is there already but for media player, for system settings, and for other such things gnome (ubuntu) has its set and kde (kubuntu) has its set
[20:04] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ah, that package is there. Thank you.
[20:04] <mayeco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155032
[20:04] <mayeco> this is a security bug
[20:04] <mayeco> please someone reproduce that -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155032
[20:04] <lee986321> stdin is it all good for a restart/?
[20:04] <dhq> bluetooth
[20:05] <ctw> Dr_willis: Here's the more detailed bug-report I filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/155034
[20:05] <stdin> lee986321: that looks ok, go for it
[20:05] <lee986321> ok,
[20:05] <ardchoille> mayeco: That link requires login
[20:05] <lee986321> can't be any different  lol
[20:05] <luca> hi everyone
[20:05] <dvayanu> dr_willis: ok, now i have gnome style in my kde
[20:05] <lrw> nobody has an answer to my question?
[20:06] <[ka]killer> why would xine be screwed up?
[20:06] <redshadowhero> the person who owns this computer has trouble seeing the icons/text on the taskbar-thingee at the bottom of the screen. Any reccommendations on how to help him see them better?
[20:06] <luca> I succeeded in connecting a motorola razr v3 to ubuntu using moto4lin, but I want to download the short messages, and kmobiletools I can't successfully connect to it...suggestions?
[20:06] <Dr_willis> redshadowhero,  set all the fonts a lot larger?
[20:06] <posingaspopular> "service '/usr/share/applications/kde/kfmclient_dir.desktop' is malformatted" anyone see this before?
[20:06] <stdin> lrw: if it downloaded the packages, then it won't download them again
[20:06] <Dr_willis> redshadowhero,  theres also the high-contrast themes.
[20:07] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, if they are the same ubuntu(g) and ubuntu(k) why would one choose one over the other? after all one can run either application (qt or gtk ones) in either environment.
[20:07] <acee12345> Somehow i uninstalled  knetwork manager in kubuntu 7.10 and the my ehternet is not recognised either thus i have to way to connect to the Internet with kubuntu. I do have the live cd and was wandering if there is a way to fix it from that cd?
[20:07] <darkox> i have downloaded nvidia drivers (*.run file). how I can install it???
[20:07] <redshadowhero> Where might I find some of these font controls?
[20:07] <posingaspopular> acee12345: connect via command line
[20:07] <posingaspopular> ifconfig
[20:07] <posingaspopular> dhclient
[20:07] <Dr_willis> darkox,  you ahve tried the nvidia drivers in the repos?  Thats the best way to enable them
[20:07] <acee12345> posingaspopular: how
[20:08] <annma> hi people
[20:08] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: exactly. so just which way to interface with the core elements. some prefer gnome some prefer kde (some prefer xfce some prefer fluxbox some prefer to switch)
[20:08] <posingaspopular> my konsole isn't launching now, but you can connect to the internet via command line, it's mucho easy
[20:08] <mayeco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155032
[20:08] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: for file manager, web browser, audio player, video player, and so on
[20:08] <mayeco> reproduce that please
[20:09] <surface2> is there any libxine-extracodecs ?
[20:09] <Flare183> How do I fix this error: http://flare183.pastebin.ca/743759
[20:09] <surface2> can't find in my repo
[20:09] <ruth> hh
[20:09] <SanityInAnarchy> Ok, question: Where is the script which is run after the new packages are installed (in the version upgrade)?
[20:09] <tysonsw> Dr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!
[20:09] <stdin> mayeco: it's not accessible , "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page."
[20:09] <surface2> ,video codec
[20:09] <stdin> surface2: it's libxine1-ffmpeg now
[20:09] <sven_> Hi there, Im still trying to download the restricted driver for my wireless network card but whenever I select "Enable firmware", I get a new window called "Specify firmware location" but this window is frozen, i cant click anything in it, I cant even close it.. Has anybody experienced the same problem? also, there is a file specified there, I have already downloaded it manually, is there a way to manually install this firmware file??
[20:09] <mayeco> please login
[20:09] <surface2> stdin, oh thx
[20:09] <SanityInAnarchy> My upgrade died, and I had to finish on my own (with apt-get dist-upgrade), the "version upgrade" button is still there in Adept, although all the packages are done.
[20:09] <annma> stdin: mayeco claims that kdesu <kdeapp> and changing a setting makes root owns the user config file
[20:10] <annma> stdin: for example kdesu kate and change a setting
[20:10] <ruth> t
[20:10] <mayeco> the file should not exist
[20:10] <annma> then .kde/share/config/katerc will be owned by root
[20:10] <lrw> stdin: Adept doesn't seem to realize that there is a pending version upgrade
[20:10] <tysonsw> Dr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!
[20:10] <ruth> jk
[20:11] <mayeco> close the program, then delete the old file owned by your user
[20:11] <stdin> annma: checking
[20:11] <mayeco> example /.kde/share/config/yakuakerc then kdesu yakuake
[20:11] <mayeco> that the file now is owned by root
[20:11] <mayeco> if you run yakuake as normal user you can't save configs
[20:11] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, some say if you want kde environemtn dont' chose kubuntu, go with mepis or pclos... do you think that has changed and kubuntu have moved forward alot with this nrew release?
[20:12] <dvayanu> is there an easy way to downgrade back to feisty?
[20:12] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: well i think with each release kde becomes a bigger part of the ubuntu family (of course 'kubuntu' is the release with kde as the frontend)
[20:12] <acee12345>  posingaspopular: what are the commands?
[20:12] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: install from cd/dvd
[20:13] <sven_> mayeco, one comment about yakuake, its a great program, but it can cause severe X crashes when used in combination with compiz and alike..
[20:13] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: downgrade not reinstall
[20:13] <stdin> mayeco: I opened kate (kdesu kate) then changed a couple settings, the config file was still owned by my user
[20:13] <stdin> sven_: compiz is what causes the crash, not yakuake
[20:14] <tysonsw> Dr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!
[20:14]  * BluesKaj wonders if there are any open source ati drivers that will work with google earth ...the proprietary and default gutsy driver sucks
[20:14] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone here gotten gutsy nvidia drivers to load
[20:14] <jpwhiting> mine always says FATAL: Unable to load...
[20:14] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: yes
[20:14] <jpwhiting> dvayanu: any tips?
[20:14] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: no probs at all
[20:15] <jpwhiting> I think I hit this last time I tried a gutsy beta also
[20:15] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: dont know, i just installed and it worked :-)
[20:15] <dvayanu> already in feisty
[20:15] <masternoob> hello
[20:15] <mayeco> stdin: why here in 3 Gusty pc they change the ownership
[20:15] <jpwhiting> hmm, mine worked fine in feisty, but no luck in gutsy so far
[20:15] <mayeco> are you in Gusty Gibbon?
[20:15] <acee12345> does anyone know the commands to connect to the internet with kubuntu 7.10 with the command line?
[20:15] <jpwhiting> mayeco: ?? change the ownership of what?
[20:16] <mayeco> jpwhiting: the config file
[20:16] <jpwhiting> acee12345: ethernet, wireless? which?
[20:16] <mayeco> ~/.kde/share/config/_app_
[20:16] <stdin> mayeco: not sure, what exactly do you do to reproduce the bug? just open an app with kdesu and change a setting, or remove the config file then open the app?
[20:16] <acee12345> jpwhiting: wireless died after knetwork manager died so i guess ethernet
[20:16] <jpwhiting> acee12345: sudo ifup eth0
[20:16] <annma> stdin: remove the config file, kdesu the app
[20:16] <sven_> stdin, actually, I talked about this with the guys from yakuake, they told me that yakuake does some weird things too.. in either case, its the combination that does the trick, and whoever causes these crashes, it crashes, thats what counts :)
[20:17] <mayeco> in Gusty
[20:17] <annma> this is not about yakuake
[20:17] <jpwhiting> annma: :) what are you doing here?
[20:17] <annma> any kde app will do
[20:17] <mayeco> yes is about kdesu
[20:17] <annma> jpwhiting: checking a claim
[20:17] <jpwhiting> thought you were a mandriva fan
[20:17] <jpwhiting> ah
[20:17] <annma> tssss
[20:17] <acee12345> jpwhiting: alright letme hibernate windows and ill try that thank you
[20:17] <jpwhiting> acee12345: no problem
[20:18] <annma> known gutsy bug mayeco
[20:18] <stdin> annma, mayeco: if I remove the config file then kdesu app, then I do see that happening
[20:18] <thorns> Does anyone know how to change the system wide Qt4 style?
[20:18] <annma> fuck!!!
[20:19] <stdin> !language
[20:19] <LjL> !language
[20:19] <annma> I'll never use KUbuntu
[20:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[20:19] <mayeco> what annma
[20:19] <annma> weeew
[20:19] <stdin> annma: no need for that language in here
[20:19] <annma> this is so big
[20:19] <mayeco> YES!
[20:19] <annma> I cannot believe it
[20:19] <mayeco> is HUGE!
[20:19] <WaltzingAlong> google earth sucks? BluesKaj how about the solarwind or whatever it is called from nasa?
[20:19]  * mayeco i'm not an idiot!
[20:19] <annma> mayeco: SORRY
[20:19] <annma> I apologize
[20:19] <Saied> thorns: qt4 has a config tool but i dont know affects KDE theme style
[20:19] <mayeco> xD!!! np
[20:19] <annma> I cannot believe it
[20:20] <mayeco> mee to
[20:20] <[ka]killer> bah
[20:20] <[ka]killer> why is xine still not working right
[20:20] <LjL> are you sure you've used kdesudo and not sudo?
[20:20] <annma> it's a showstoppper
[20:20] <mayeco> LjL sudo or kdesu
[20:20] <mayeco> happed
[20:20] <mayeco> happend
[20:20] <annma> LjL: I asked in #kubuntu-devel
[20:20] <annma> they confirmed!
[20:21] <mayeco> AHHHHHHHHHH!
[20:21] <stdin> it's not a showstopper, it'd only happen when you run the app as root first
[20:21] <[ka]killer> i just want xine to work T_T
[20:21] <annma> stdin: !!!
[20:21] <annma> come on
[20:22] <annma> so many first comers are root
[20:22] <thorns> Saied: I'm just looking for a config tool, cli or gui, so I can easily set my user wide and/or system wide qt4 style
[20:22] <[ka]killer> anyone besides me having video playback problems with xine & kaffeine?
[20:22] <thorns> Saied: Do you know which tool that is?
[20:22] <jpwhiting> thorns: kcmshell colors, then check the apply kde colors to non kde apps
[20:23] <jpwhiting> that should set the gtk and qt styles to the same color scheme
[20:23] <jpwhiting> I think
[20:23] <Saied> thorns: qtconfig-qt4
[20:23] <stdin> annma: it's not as huge as you think, unless the very first time then run the app it's run with kdesu then it won't happen
[20:23] <stdin> annma: and most new comers don't even know about kdesu
[20:24] <annma> anyway I'll be in Boston next week, I'll talk about it stdin
[20:24] <stdin> it's an important bug, but not as big as you're making ti
[20:24] <stdin> *it
[20:24] <annma> it makes KDE bad
[20:24] <Saied> thorns: i think it needs a new theme style for current KDE and KDE4 even Gnome and other DEs.
[20:24] <annma> it's quite important to discuss
[20:25] <Saied> thorns: my current qt4 apps are a few ugly
[20:25] <dvayanu> are you talking about kdesu?
[20:25] <dvayanu> that renaming sucks :-)
[20:25] <darkox> How to save text file edited in Kate using terminal?
[20:26] <jpwhiting> stdin: most apps are run with kdesu actualy
[20:26] <jpwhiting> most admin apps anyway
[20:26] <dvayanu> kdesu isnt there anymore
[20:26] <NightBird> darkox: what?
[20:26] <dvayanu> at least it keeps telling me that
[20:26] <stdin> jpwhiting: the admin apps aren't going to be ran as the normal user, so the ownership of the files doesn't matter
[20:27] <jpwhiting> stdin: if you run adept_manager from the k-menu it runs it with kdesu
[20:27] <stdin> jpwhiting: yes, so the ownership doesn't matter, as it's always run with kdesu
[20:27] <annma> jpwhiting: avoid kdesu
[20:27] <darkox> I edited text, but don't have access to save it. I want to try save it as root... But i don't know cammand
[20:27] <jpwhiting> hmm, ok
[20:28] <BluesKaj> WaltzingAlong, I wasn't being critcal of Google Earth , i acyaully like it ...it's the lack of support for linux from both google and ati that sucks :P
[20:28] <dvayanu> annma: and use what instead? login as root?
[20:28] <dvayanu> sudo
[20:28] <jpwhiting> dvayanu: ever heard of su?
[20:28] <dvayanu> that would be running as root
[20:28] <jpwhiting> ;-)
[20:28] <[ka]killer> bah
[20:29] <jpwhiting> only for the shell you run it in
[20:29] <[ka]killer> i guess i'll just use mplayer till xine gets fixed up
[20:29] <dvayanu> that would mean you have a root password
[20:29] <jpwhiting> dvayanu: of course
[20:29] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: my boxes doesnt
[20:29] <jpwhiting> first thing I do after any kubuntu install is sudo passwd ;-)
[20:29] <gameforge> Is there a way I can watch the console output of the Kubuntu setup (setting up from CD)?
[20:30] <_michael> Hello I was wondering if I could allow my kpf applet to be accessed via the internet and not just LAN Any ideas?
[20:30] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: first thing i do is go to google to search and here to complain that my fonts are all broken
[20:30] <Judgen> howdy, Is there an hfs+ filesystem driver with +rwx support for linux?
[20:30] <dvayanu> crppling my eyes, they start to bleed actually
[20:30] <jpwhiting> :)
[20:31] <cristian> Hola??
[20:32] <stdin> !es
[20:32] <MLG_GooseMann> Is anybody using the KDE 4 Beta 3?
[20:32] <cristian> Alguien me podria ayudar???
[20:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:33] <MLG_GooseMann> Is anybody using KDE 4 Beta 3?
[20:33] <the-erm> [ka]killer: I'm having problems with video playback as well :)
[20:33] <dvayanu> http://www.anotheria.net/broken-fonts.png
[20:33] <dvayanu> can someone point me into right direction? how to fix it?
[20:33] <[ka]killer> im just avoindign xine til its fixed
[20:34] <the-erm> [ka]killer: it's not just xine, it's kaffine, as well as mplayer, and totem craps out as well.  the ONLY way I can play video is to convert it to .flv and then watch it in the browser and that ain't fun.
[20:35] <MLG_GooseMann> Try VLC Media Player?
[20:35] <paolopoz12> I have problems with dist-upgrade. Can please someone help me?
[20:35] <the-erm> MLG_GooseMann: ok I'll try that.
[20:35] <[ka]killer> mplayer is working for me
[20:35] <[ka]killer> as does VLC
[20:35] <[ka]killer> but vlc and mplayer render subtitles really poorly
[20:36] <fusspawn> seeing as this channel isnt flying past at an amazing rate of nots and i can keep up with it, Is there a Wine help channel or some one with Wine/Ubuntu experience availiable for a quick chat ?
[20:36] <the-erm> paolopoz12: it froze on me as well, I had to start with a fresh install.
[20:36] <[ka]killer> whats your problem wwiht wine?
[20:37] <paolopoz12> arhhg!
[20:37] <Kr4t05> fusspawn: #winehq
[20:37] <MLG_GooseMann> paolopoz12: What's wrong with it?
[20:37] <fusspawn> [ka]Killer , Wines folder refuses to let me have more than 1.1 gig free space even tho the partition has the space that folder seems perma stuck at 1.1 gig
[20:37] <paolopoz12> MLG: it's just a looong work. that's all
[20:37] <fusspawn> Thanks Kr4t05
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> Yeah, I started mine two hours ago.
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> 54% right now.
[20:38] <sven_> Could anybody help me with installing a restricted driver?
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> Last night it froze up.
[20:38] <paolopoz12> Do I lose data with this process?
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> I'm not too sure, but I don't think so.
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> Like, files saved to your hard drive?
[20:38] <gameforge> help - trying to install kubuntu gutsy on my thinkpad/t42, copying files makes it to 60% and computer shuts down (no error, just a beep and "Going down now" message on console) - any ideas?  already asked in #kubuntu
[20:39] <paolopoz12> yes.
[20:39] <gameforge> err, #ubuntu rather
[20:39] <paolopoz12> mails, files...
[20:39] <gameforge> is there a way to watch the console output of the install?
[20:39] <MLG_GooseMann> gameforge: Are you installing from CD?
[20:39] <gameforge> yes
[20:40] <gameforge> installing from the desktop ISO
[20:40] <the-erm> [ka]killer: nope vlc does the same thing as mplayer vertical lines.
[20:40] <Eyal_D> Hi all .. I'm new and I need a bit help
[20:40] <Eyal_D> how can I use the 3d Desktop? I enabled visual effects afocurse ..
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> gameforge: overheating?
[20:41] <Eyal_D> but I don't know how to use this damn 3d ball =\
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: GNOME?
[20:41] <MLG_GooseMann> gameforge: do you have a previous version of kubuntu installed?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, got GE installed and running ?
[20:41] <Eyal_D> what is ge?
[20:41] <gameforge> nosrednaekim: that's what I thought, but it doesn't get any hotter than usual
[20:41] <Eyal_D> This is the new version .. 7. .. ?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I don't have the bandwidth for that!
[20:41] <BluesKaj> google earth
[20:41] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: I had feisty, but I wiped it, installing fresh
[20:41] <Eyal_D> GNOME sorry ?
[20:41] <MLG_GooseMann> Hm.
[20:41] <Eyal_D> what is GNOME my friend?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: are you on Ubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:42] <MLG_GooseMann> Perhaps upgrading from feisty would work?
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Ubnutu ^^
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Ubnutu
[20:42] <MLG_GooseMann> I would either say that or try redownloading the iso.
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: channel for that is over at #ubuntu
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Ty
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Sorry for bothering ..
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: but trl ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[20:42]  * BluesKaj wonders about installing gnome
[20:42] <Eyal_D> I tried .. no 3d .. normal movment ..
[20:43]  * nosrednaekim kickes BluesKaj for even thinking about it
[20:43] <Eyal_D> Anyhow I will try the other channel .. thanks
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> k
[20:43] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: I already wiped it...
[20:43] <BluesKaj> :)
[20:43] <MLG_GooseMann> Well, I'd try redownloading the iso.
[20:43] <MLG_GooseMann> That might be the problem.
[20:44] <dvayanu> ok, i probably found it
[20:44] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: Yeah I came across that problems on the forums and I checked it, it should be OK.  Do you think trying the alternate ISO is worth a shot?
[20:44] <dvayanu> solution for gnome: Go to System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts and change the rendering method to "Best contrast".
[20:44] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: Also, is there a way to watch the installer's console output?
[20:45] <dvayanu> has kde the same option hiding somewhere?
[20:45] <pikachuumx_> how can i know if my sistem has the driver of my wifi card?
[20:45] <MLG_GooseMann> I don't know about the console input, but it might've been a problem just downloading it.
[20:45] <MLG_GooseMann> I myself haven't tried the alternate iso thus far, so I'm not sure how that'll pan out.
[20:46] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: kmenu/system settings/appearance/fonts/use anti aliasing
[20:46] <rand_acs> pikachuumx_: dmesg
[20:46] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[20:46] <sven_> Could anybody help me with installing a restricted driver?
[20:46] <rand_acs> pikachuumx_: in a terminal, then you can also do something like dmesg | grep card_make
[20:46] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: otherwise turn on 'auto hinting' in ~/.fonts.conf
[20:47] <dvayanu> ah
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> sven_: which one?
[20:47] <rand_acs> pikachuumx_: card_make being the actually card, like intel or whatever
[20:47] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: right, well I'll try redownloading the desktop one first - thanks for your advice :)
[20:47] <MLG_GooseMann> No problem.
[20:47] <MLG_GooseMann> Hope it helps.
[20:47] <gameforge> Me too...
[20:48] <sven_> nosrednaekim, wireless network card driver 43xx.. when I select "enable firmware" a new window pops up, and it hangs.. for hours.. Ive tried it like a 100 times already because supposedly the kubuntu site was busy these days but.. no result.. the window hangs immediately
[20:48] <Xera> http://pastebin.com/m46174c79
[20:48] <dvayanu> match target font : edit mode="assign or what?
[20:48] <Xera> Why do I need so much crap to install Firefox?
[20:48] <MLG_GooseMann> What crap Xera?
[20:48] <Xera> in 7.04 I didn't, in 7.10 I appear to need a load of other stuff
[20:48] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: if you do not want gtk you can just grab the static one from getfirefox.com/
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> sven_: hmmm I think that is to select a firmware file
[20:48] <sven_> nosrednaekim, In the window that shows up (and that looks frozen) I can select a location for the driver.. local or on the internet.. but I cant type anything, I cant press buttons, I cant even close that window, its completely frozen
[20:48] <sven_> nosrednaekim, it is
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> sven_: i'm not sure if it goes out to the internet
[20:49] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: getfirefox.com gives me an archive
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> sven_: ah.. ok
[20:49] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: yes, which you extract with tar xvfz firefox.tar.fz
[20:49] <pikachuumx_> I ha ve a list of pc informatio and my wifi appeear in here but I  don't know how to connect with it I connected with my wired card
[20:49] <WaltzingAlong> gz
[20:49] <sven_> nosrednaekim, I was told that it did but.. even so, I would have to press OK or something first? in anycase, the window is dead..
[20:49] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: I'd rather have it installed properly like it used to
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> hmm yeah... is there an OK button?
[20:50] <wesley> can someone help me i am trying to get kde4 working
[20:50] <sven_> nosrednaekim, any idea on how I can bypass this? I already downloaded the file that appeared in that window, can I install this file manually maybe?
[20:50]  * AmyRose wonders why strangers from this channel keep /msging her...
[20:50] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: something called ubuntuzilla or something like that?
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> sven_: I'm sure you can. there is probably a tutorial for it on the ubuntu forums
[20:51] <BluesKaj> wesley, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[20:51] <wesley> yes i did all of it and theres no session
[20:51] <h3sp4wn> AmyRose: You are surprised ? That is why most females use names that could be attributed to either
[20:51] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: But I tried that too and it crashes on me
[20:51] <StarSys> Hello. I have a problem with installing kubuntu... When the live cd starts, i only get a blank screen (When changing from textmode to graphical).. When I try the alternate cd, i can install, but when I reboot, I get the same blank screen again... Can't change to another console eigher.. Can anyone help? :)
[20:51] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: huh? in 7.04 I just did sudo aptitude install firefox and it installed, didn't need anything else
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: when..
[20:51] <acee12345> jpwhiting: my ethernet apears to be dead in both windows and linux
[20:52] <acee12345> jpwhiting: so that command didnt do anything
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> StarSys: can you boot recovery mode?
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: when/where/how does it fail?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> wesley, are you running kde4 now ?
[20:52] <cristian> Hello, I need help, I from Chile. Anybody speak Spanish?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> !es
[20:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:52] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: It gets through the splash screen and then X dies
[20:53] <jpwhiting> acee12345: oh :(
[20:53] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: you can do that again with kubuntu 7.10
[20:53] <wesley> no i did install that what you needed and copy  kde4.desktop 2 xsessions ans put export lines at startkde at kde4/bin
[20:53] <acee12345> jpwhiting: is there a way to restore the program from the cd?
[20:54] <jpwhiting> acee12345: restore what program?
[20:54] <acee12345> jpwhiting: knetwork manager
[20:54] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: how then? if I try and install just firefox it wants to download a load of other stuff that it didn't in 7.04
[20:54] <acee12345> so that i can use my proset wirless
[20:54] <jpwhiting> acee12345: you deleted it?
[20:55] <acee12345> jpwhiting: somehow
[20:55] <surface2> for gnome, they have gnome-open to open app with default app, what kde have?
[20:56] <jpwhiting> acee12345: do you have knetworkmanager in /usr/bin anymore?
[20:56] <StarSys> nosrednaekim: Hehe, I didn't of that :) I got it working now :) Thanks!
[20:56] <acee12345> jpwhiting:ii dont know let me bring up irc on an alternate comp and ill hibernate again
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> StarSys: thats what its there for ;)
[20:57] <StarSys> :)
[20:59] <Xera> Heh nevermind, it seems I was trying to install a "joke" package from the universe repo
[21:01] <Carnage> i'm having trouble with my wireless card, it was working and now... its not.
[21:01] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: same way as before. what it needs it grabs. may be because packages changed. split bigger ones. maybe you had already installed gtk stuff last time?
[21:01] <sven_> nosrednaekim, I looked on the ubuntu forums, but I can only find tuturials for installing wireless with ndiswrappers... this restricted driver that kubuntu wants to install on my laptop (but fails to do so) is also with ndis? because if its not, I prefer to use the no-ndiswrapper
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sven_: hmmm I don't know..
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> it may be
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sven_: just a sec.. let me take a look
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sven_: nope... its using a native driver
[21:04] <Carnage> not really sure what info you need to diagnose the prob
[21:04] <sven_> nosrednaekim, mmm, so it would be better to install that one instead of the ndiswrapper one, correct?...
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> sven_: I don't know...if you can get it working ;)
[21:04] <kmart> Good afternoon, folks.  Hope all is well
[21:05] <sven_> nosrednaekim, any reason why the restricted driver program may hang?
[21:05] <kmart> QUestion for the experts - can Adept be told to download and install in parallel
[21:05] <kmart> rather than doing it serially?
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> sven_: no...
[21:06] <kmart> I'm updating the systems and it seems to be odd that updates can;t be installing while others download
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> kmart: here? haha this is the SUPPORT channel my friend ;)
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> kmart: that probably wouldn't be good.
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> because of dependencies
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> and you'd install them far faster than you could DL
[21:07] <Carnage> no, it could totally trash your system
[21:07] <roadfish> and I have the opposite question. can I do the download (over dial up) and keep running my other apps _until_ the package installation takes place?
[21:07] <kmart> nosredmaekim - understood, but it does seem it should know wheter a dependency is need and wait for it
[21:07] <frank_> roadfish: you can keep running applications even when packagaes are being installed
[21:07] <kmart> maybe I dislike waiting too much
[21:07] <Azzco> I really need some help finding out something on my system. I can't boot from LiveCDs and I'm starting to become desperate
[21:08] <kmart> frank_  understood
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> kmart: there probably wouldn't bevery much of a speed increase, but simpler and reliable to DL them all first
[21:08] <roadfish> frank_: ok thanks. but I thought I saw a message that said I should shut down my apps?
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> kmart: that way you aren't left with half-finished installs/upgrades and other such things
[21:09] <frank_> roadfish: are you upgrading to gutsy?
[21:09] <vbgunz> kubuntu doesn't have an official forum does it?
[21:09] <kmart> True
[21:09] <roadfish> right, on this page it said to close my apps ... http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/snapshot10.png
[21:09] <roadfish> frank_: yes. feisty to gutsy
[21:09] <kmart> just a thought while I was watching grass grow :-)
[21:09] <Carnage> ok; so can someone tell me what information i need to give them to get some help fixing my previously working wireless?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: yes it does
[21:10] <acee12346> jpwhiting: what file was that again?
[21:10] <frank_> roadfish: ah. well you can do what it says. but using apps is fine when downloading
[21:10] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: I am looking, one moment
[21:10] <tharun> Hi,
[21:10] <tharun> I am getting this error after launching the version upgrade tool(from gutsy beta) though Adept. It downloads a bunch of files, and then shows the error:
[21:10] <tharun> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:10] <tharun> What do I do?
[21:10] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: got it
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> kmart: heh :)
[21:10] <roadfish> frank_: ok, thanks. so isn't a huge problem ... besides, the only app that I use is emacs.
[21:10] <Carnage> the card did appear in knetworkmanager as eth1, its no longer there however the ethernet card is still in there
[21:11] <frank_> roadfish: frankly though the kubuntu upgrader crashed on me while installing. It's not very stable
[21:11] <roadfish> :-(
[21:11] <stian> anny 1 know a good place 2 download songs??
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> sven_: I mean... of course there is a reason... but IDK what is it ;)
[21:11] <roadfish> frank_: so are you suggesting a fresh install?
[21:12] <roadfish> stian: Apple iTunes?
[21:12] <jpwhiting> acee12346: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> stian: amazon
[21:12] <darkox> how to install nvidia drivers? (kubuntu)
[21:12] <frank_> roadfish: well if you know how to resume the upgrade in the event that the upgrader crashes you can try it but you're probably safer with a fresh install
[21:13]  * NDP-Kubuntu finally sees the "Version Upgrade" in his Adept manager and decides to update to Kubuntu 7.10
[21:13] <tharun> Anyone know how to fix this error?: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:13] <roadfish> frank_: ok, thanks for the warning.
[21:14] <acee12346> jpwhiting: odd ethernet works on non-ddwrt router
[21:14] <combinio> why libxine-main1 AND libxine-extracodecs can't be installed under Gutsy ??
[21:14] <jpwhiting> I don't know what non-ddwrt means...
[21:14] <tharun> This error comes up when I hit Version Upgrade... gutsy beta to  file
[21:15] <acee12346> jpwhiting: dd-wrt is a firmware replacement that expands options on some routers
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> combinio: "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[21:16] <combinio> nosrednaekim: thanks a lot :))
[21:16] <acee12346> jpwhiting: i did apt-get and it installed
[21:17] <acee12346> jpwhiting: now how do i get ittoshow the wirelexx networks again?
[21:18] <acee12346> jpwhiting: sorry about spacing the space bar is broken on the comp
[21:19] <vbgunz> kopete crashes on every sign in, isn't there a fix for this somewhere?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: MSN?
[21:19] <vbgunz> not sure
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> do you use MSN with it?
[21:19] <vbgunz> I am trying to sign in and it just segfaults
[21:19] <jpwhiting> acee12346: dunno, does it put a systray icon on the systray when you run it?
[21:19] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: yes
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> !bug 153500
[21:20] <acee12346> jpwhiting: yes
[21:20] <acee12346> do i needto reinstall restiricted drivers for the proset?if sohow?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: its a known issue, and yes there is a fix
[21:21] <jpwhiting> acee12346: adept?
[21:21] <jpwhiting> or aptitude
[21:21] <gambix> hi to all
[21:21] <jpwhiting> or apt-get something
[21:21]  * dithi_ looks for the fix
[21:21] <dithi_> here it is! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[21:21] <gambix> is the kde4 beta3 is usable ?
[21:21] <vbgunz> I know, I read about it but didn't use kopete. then I had to install fresh and figured I'll try kopete again... now I need that fix
[21:22] <acee12346> jpwhiting: doenst show anything butiremember it using them before
[21:22] <gambix> i can't find the startkde file ?
[21:22] <ardchoille> After using the Restricted Manager to successfully install nvidia drivers, I now have no tty1-6 (ctrl+alt+f(1-6)). How do I get my tty's back?
[21:23] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: got it
[21:23] <clyrrad> Is there a way to load your kubuntu desktop session remotely over SSH?  IE: can you some how make KDE login remotely over SSH, I would like to have the sesson start so I can connect to it with X11VNC
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> thanks dithi_
[21:23] <dithi_> :D
[21:24] <dithi_> I think it was a mistake to include kde 3.5.8 just before the release of 7.10
[21:24] <dithi_> that package algo fixes an error I had with konqueror 3.5.8
[21:24] <dithi_> actually two errors
[21:24] <acee1234> im still here
[21:25] <dithi_> clyrrad: you can configure kde remote desktop to allow guest connections without confirmation, or you can use a xvnc server
[21:26] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Why doesn't Gutsy have emerald-themes?
[21:26] <roadfish> any opinion on using the "alternate CD/DVD" for upgrading instead of "Adept Manager"? likely to be more or less reliable ... or not really any difference?
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | dithi_
[21:27] <ubotu> dithi_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: liscencing issues
[21:27] <vbgunz> now basket needs a fix... it crashes on every startup
[21:27] <dithi_> vbgunz: it works for me
[21:27] <vbgunz> maybe this patch for kopete fixes it, heh, could only hope
[21:27] <Kr4t05> Oh...
[21:27] <dithi_> what does it say in terminal?
[21:27] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Basket works for me, but I can't get it into kontact like I had it in Feisty
[21:28] <dithi_> vbgunz: I'm not sure i've tried without the patch... probably it works for you
[21:28] <clyrrad> dithi_: is xvnc server avail from apt-get?  I dont see it
[21:28] <acee1234> does anyone know why knetwork manager shows"no active device" and will not display available networks on kubuntu 7.10 prosetwireless
[21:28] <vbgunz> everytime I launch basket, it closes and a kmail messages pops up to be sent
[21:29] <vbgunz> I'll try again after the patch but the patch is giving me problems too at the moment :/
[21:29] <dithi_> clyrrad: vncserver
[21:30] <clyrrad> dithi_: I see vnc4server
[21:30] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Thats strange, because it's still on the packages server.
[21:30] <dithi_> clyrrad: afaik, vncserver starts a new x11 session, while x11vnc uses an existing x server
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: hmm maybe I heard wrong...wouldn't be the first time ;)
[21:30] <ardchoille> Is anyone else with nvidia drivers missing tty's 1-6? Or is this known?
[21:31] <vbgunz> basket started up
[21:31] <dithi_> ardchoille: it works for me until I suspend
[21:31] <vbgunz> I'll try kopete
[21:31] <dithi_> clyrrad: I don't know what's the difference between vnc4server and vncserver
[21:31] <dithi_> I guess vnc4server is more up-to-date, or it may be a fork
[21:32] <WaltzingAlong> freenx
[21:32] <aspirin_on_kubun> hi
[21:33] <dithi_> oh, yeah, I want to try freenx, I tried non-free nx a long time ago and I liked it so much
[21:33] <aspirin_on_kubun> i try nvidia-settings --load-only-config to load my nvidia settings, but nothing happens
[21:33] <ardchoille> !launchpad
[21:33] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[21:33] <WaltzingAlong> roadfish: not sure about reliability but having the packages downloaded can help a lot should there be any hiccups during upgrade; no need to redownload them
[21:34] <vbgunz> yeah, that patch removed over 43 packages. basket launches without a hiccup and kopete is signed in
[21:34] <vbgunz> looks real good so far
[21:34] <hargibi> hmm. i get a black screen on the boot up.. and ive tryed changeing to VGA mode and everything... Its on a thinkpad laptop
[21:34] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Can you get basket to appear in kontact?
[21:34] <hargibi> dunno what to do
[21:34] <vbgunz> ardchoille: I'll look
[21:35] <vbgunz> ardchoille: no, it doesn't show up inside kontact
[21:35] <ardchoille> vbgunz: In feisty, basket was a module you could add, like the notes, journal, and others
[21:35] <jim> !dvd
[21:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:35] <vbgunz> ardchoille: I know, I seen it but always had basket sitting in the tray
[21:36] <aspirin_on_kubun> how can i load at startup nvidia-settings.rc?
[21:36] <vbgunz> I never really started to use any KDE apps until the end of feisty... I switched from firefox, thunderbird to konqueror and kmail... now, its gaim for kopete if those long standing bugs really got fixed
[21:38] <hargibi> btw.. is there any easy way to install kde4? i guess the guide on kubuntu homepage is easy but i sure as hell couldnt figure it out
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> hargibi: thats about as easy as it gets
[21:39] <BluesKaj> hargibi, it' not as easy they say
[21:40] <hargibi> hmmm
[21:40] <x_link> Hi everybody!
[21:40] <hydrogen> hargibi: its not worth installing it at this point.
[21:40] <hargibi> ahh
[21:40] <hargibi> well i figured that almost
[21:40] <acee1234> why does distribution upgrade freeze on "installing the upgrades" on kubuntu 7.10?
[21:40] <hargibi> beta sucks
[21:40] <hargibi> =)
[21:40] <BluesKaj> it's very clunky and unstable
[21:41] <hargibi> but anyone know anything about my black boot loading screen?
[21:41] <raidproblem> The kubuntu installer can't see my raid setup, it just wants to install to one of the disks in the raid set
[21:41] <x_link> I need help with a small thing.
[21:41] <x_link> First time I wanted to install Kubuntu 7.04 I had to run the Live CD first.
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> raidproblem: I think you need to use the alternate installer for RAID
[21:42] <x_link> Then after that I could install it to my hdd.
[21:42] <raidproblem> ah ok
[21:42] <x_link> But I don't want that.
[21:42] <acee1234> if no one knows who might i ask?
[21:42] <x_link> Then somebody here gave me a link to a Kubuntu 7.04-version that I didn't need to run Live CD first then install it.
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: with the 'desktop' or livecd that is how it works
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: otherwise you need the dvd version or the alternate cd
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: what error does it give you?
[21:43] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: nothing just sits on 0%
[21:43] <x_link> But with the Kubuntu 7.04-cd that I have now I don't need to run Live CD first, I just put in the CD and then I install Kubuntu. Really smooth.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: on the command line?
[21:43] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Alternate, does KDE get installed as well then?
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> x_link: yes
[21:43] <acee1234> i did it through adapt
[21:43] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: sure with the kubuntu alternate cd
[21:44] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: i did it through adapt command line shows nothing when i hit "show terminal"
[21:44] <x_link> Ahh okej.
[21:44] <raidproblem> well, I guess I have to go and download another CD :)
[21:44] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: which bug(s) affected you with kopete?
[21:44] <raidproblem> and find another CD to burn to :)
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: did it already DL the packages?
[21:44] <x_link> So Alternate = not Live CD, you just install Kubuntu right away?
[21:44] <raidproblem> thanks for help
[21:44] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: yes
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: 153500
[21:44] <x_link> AM I right?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> gutsy is still a bit "Holey" if you get my drift , but it will be better in a month or 2 after the feedback and fixes are in place
[21:44] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: sure. desktop is run live, then the option to install (or not); alternate has no run live but is just install
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: then,from the command line,run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... close adept first
[21:45] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: the format toolbar and the little windows that popup when people sign on... I still don't think I know how to get rid of that popup message...
[21:45] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Nice!
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you mean we should bow down to it?
[21:45] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: there were others but I cannot remember them now
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: settings->configure notifications
[21:45] <BluesKaj> no nosrednaekim , holey not holy :)
[21:46] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Cause I have another Kubuntu 7.04-version as well. When I install Kubuntu with that CD I don't get KDE, I need to do sudo aptitude install kde-core.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: oh.... ;-)
[21:46] <BigDaddy> hey all, is there an app that will go through a users /home and remove .folders for apps no longer installed?
[21:46] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: So Kubuntu-7.10-alternate isn't like that?
[21:46] <vbgunz> ok, am setting up window behaviour for kopete, will do that right after
[21:46] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: which is the other? xubuntu or ubuntu ?
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: don't think so :)
[21:46] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: changed time zone and upgrades "tzdata" thats it
[21:46] <BluesKaj> holey = come s with holes in it , like my socks
[21:46] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: damn
[21:46] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Kubuntu.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: write one ;)
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: send them back if the come with holes...
[21:47] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: ha! that's rich. I am nerd, but not that good of one
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> don't complain to me!
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: =)
[21:47] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: that is strange that the kubuntu alternate cd would not install kde
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: hmmm try a reboot then :)
[21:47] <BigDaddy> looks like I need to go through manually an get rid of them then.
[21:47] <BluesKaj> BigDaddy, not sure which distro ?      lsb_release -a
[21:47] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: alright brb
[21:47] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: kubuntu 7.04
[21:48] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: the notifications are in the kopete/settings/configure notifications
[21:48] <vbgunz> got it, looking at it now, thanks a million fellas
[21:49] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: I don't think it's Kubuntu Alternate..
[21:49] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Well, thanks alot!
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> bye all! have fun with gutsy!
[21:49] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Thanks alot for your help!
[21:49] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: what is lsb_release
[21:49] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: when are you sending a message or chat, turn off the format toolbar with the chat/message window/settings/toolbars/format
[21:49] <BigDaddy> ?
[21:50] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: even the live kubuntu cd should install (the pieces of kde for that kubuntu distribution) kde
[21:50] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: I seem to have gotten rid of that toolbar for good. am so glad it actually sticks now :)
[21:50] <navets> HALP! where is the dualview program that comes with gutsy
[21:50] <BluesKaj> BigDaddy, in the konsole the '  lsb_release -a ' command tells you which version
[21:51] <WaltzingAlong> :d
[21:51] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: oh. I already knew the version but still cool to know that
[21:52] <BluesKaj> well, it's awy of checking once you've upgraded
[21:52] <BluesKaj> a way
[21:53] <Pete^_> can't get multimedia buttons working on toshiba laptop.
[21:53] <Pete^_> any ideas?
[21:53] <acee1234> same result
[21:53] <BigDaddy> Pete^_: when you say you can't get them to work, what have you done so far?
[21:54] <Pete^_> used xev
[21:54] <acee1234> anyone know why  have to use ifup eth0 every time i want to access the Internet. wireless doesnt seem to work either.
[21:55] <BigDaddy> have you just tried using the keyboard shortcuts under the control center? Turns out that was all I needed to do for my multimedia keyboard
[21:55] <Pete^_> tried that...
[21:55] <Super_Cat_Frog_> hi - i've just installed gutsy and i'm having problems with my mouse in kde - the focus is not being updated to the active window - any ideas?
[21:56] <Super_Cat_Frog_> eg: now, its acting like im still clicked on the 'konsole' icon on my taskbar
[21:56] <Super_Cat_Frog_> is this a known problem?
[21:58] <quwiero> Hi!
[21:58] <vbgunz> does kopete do logging?
[21:58] <arash> vbgunz
[21:58] <arash> yes
[21:58] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | quwiero
[21:58] <ubotu> quwiero: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:59] <quwiero> Tanks!
[21:59] <quwiero> Thanks!
[21:59] <vbgunz> arash: where does it send the logs and how do I read them?
[22:00] <arash> settings -> plugins -> history, It definetly logs it, since it display when you opne chat window, but I never bothered looking file location
[22:00] <alejandro> hola
[22:00] <alejandro> hi
[22:00] <alejandro> how to upgade to gutsy
[22:00] <alejandro> ?
[22:00] <acee1234> if no one know how to fix the wireless does any one who who i might ask?
[22:00] <WaltzingAlong> alejandro: upgrade instructions are in the topic
[22:00] <alejandro> its stable now?
[22:00] <aro> alejandro, download iso, burn, install
[22:01] <vbgunz> arash: hmm. I have that plugin enabled... I hope when I want to go into the logs it doesn't sabotage me :)
[22:01] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | acee1234
[22:01] <ubotu> acee1234: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:01] <aro> alejandro, it's officially released
[22:01] <tekteen> anyone know how to modify the live cd installer?
[22:02] <arash> vbgunz: sabotage you? I assume its saved as a text file, not as a virus executable that the Kopete programmers put their to be evil :p
[22:02] <aro> tekteen, modify in what way
[22:02] <BluesKaj> err modify ?
[22:02] <tekteen> automatically install debs
[22:02] <aro> tekteen, still don't know what you mean
[22:02] <vbgunz> arash: heh, I meant when I need to look into the logs, I hope it doesn't become impossible to find them or a nuisance
[22:02] <tekteen> add extra debs autmatically
[22:03] <tekteen> change what is installed
[22:03] <foxhound31> tried to install nvidia driver but the propretary driver was greyed out
[22:03] <BluesKaj> tekteen, depends which cd you have , but if you want to use it as a source there's an option
[22:03] <arash> vbgunz: save it as favorites if you found em once, you don't think the normal 'show messages when open chat window' is enough?
[22:03] <foxhound31> why would this happen
[22:03] <BrightEyes`> hello.i installed windoze and the boot loader was gone.i somehow tried something on ubuntuforums.then i uninstalled grub and installed grub2.what can i do so it will be able to find my windoze as well?
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> tekteen: so to build your own livecd?
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | BrightEyes`
[22:03] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:03] <aro> tekteen, why would you want to
[22:03] <tekteen> ok
[22:03] <aro> tekteen, just install stuff after
[22:03] <foxhound31> also I could not set my card from 256 to 2128 either
[22:04] <foxhound31> 128*
[22:04] <tekteen> I am creating a cd anyone can use
[22:04] <kaminix> Can you not use vhosts on freenode?
[22:04] <vbgunz> arash: thats the thing, I went all up and down the chat window, I didn't see anything about logs or history
[22:05] <vbgunz> ahh, in right click on a buddy, I see 'view history'
[22:05] <vbgunz> thats good enough :)
[22:05] <tekteen> we referb computers and put on kubuntu
[22:05] <arash> vbgunz: Good enough for government work ;) , whoops, I mean Open source work!
[22:05] <vbgunz> heh
[22:05] <vbgunz> I hope Kopete turns out to be great :)
[22:05] <tekteen> I need to know how to have it auto install kubuntu then run a script automatically
[22:06] <tekteen> anyone know
[22:07] <tekteen> how do i edit the kubuntu install program on the live cd?
[22:07] <kukman> hi
[22:07] <kukman> where is log file of dhcp3-server?
[22:07] <foxhound31> consumer linux still got a looooooooooooooooooong way to go
[22:07] <tekteen> yep
[22:08] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. My Evil clone from the basement is on. :)
[22:08] <jussi01> where in xorg.conf do modelines go?
[22:08] <WaltzingAlong> foxhound31: best define your consumer
[22:08] <foxhound31> well I do IT support for a living and I was hoping 7.10
[22:08] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  might want to google for some xorg.conf examples  -  easier to explain that way.
[22:09] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  i dont even think i have any modelines in my xorg.conf any more
[22:09] <foxhound31> would be as easy as they said butso far I cant get my graphics card working or mount the drives
[22:09] <jussi01> Dr_willis_: yeah. ok. just name a section if you can :)
[22:09] <BluesKaj> IT  guys use consumer versions ?
[22:09] <foxhound31> so no change there then
[22:09] <foxhound31> just as difficult as ever so that why its not going to be consumer linux anytime soon
[22:09] <BluesKaj> most IT guys i know use enterprise linux servers
[22:09] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  i cant. Just looked. No 'Modeline" lines at all. i THINK they go under the monitors sections
[22:10] <jussi01> damn. 19s lag
[22:10] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  since the modeline is a feature/setting of the monitor.
[22:11] <Dr_willis_> foxhound31,  given some of the song and dancing ive had to do with windows in the last month or so.. I will stick with Linux. :)
[22:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: who are you?
[22:11] <tekteen> does anyone here know how to modify the live cd to run a script after installing kubuntu?  What I can do?
[22:12] <kukman> Where I can see the errors?
[22:12] <foxhound31> looks like kubuntu got some bugs in 7.10 cos ubuntu can mount the drives but kubuntu cant
[22:12] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come my computer is using 100% cpu and all i have on is amarok and konversation and superkaramba
[22:12] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  there is a feature i think like that for the 'OEM' setup on the alternative install cd and some sort of 'kickstart' feature i read about
[22:13] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: fire up top and find out what's using the cpu power.
[22:13] <arash> foxhound31, isn't the mounting part identical for those two? Im a noob in these thing though...
[22:13] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  let me see if i can find it.
[22:13] <tekteen> where can I get more info
[22:13] <tekteen> ok
[22:13] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: whats top?
[22:13] <foxhound31> arash wait
[22:13] <Dr_willis_> I got a  Live bookmark on a site that has tips and info on that stuff :)
[22:13] <arash> !top
[22:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:13] <foxhound31> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087495.0
[22:13] <WaltzingAlong> !info top | arash
[22:13] <rohan> WTF is wrong .. everytime i cut-paste a file from anywhere, it just gets copy pasted ..
[22:14] <rohan> i need to manually use the terminal to move a file
[22:14] <foxhound31> doesnt say if they if the guy got it to work tho.
[22:14] <ubotu> arash: Package top does not exist in gutsy
[22:14] <arash> WaltzingAlong: Say that to Atomicbomber -.-
[22:14] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/14/automated-ubuntu-installation-preview/
[22:14] <tekteen> ty
[22:14] <rohan> is this is known bug or something ?
[22:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: ?
[22:14] <rohan> i'm moving file from desktop to ~/debs folder using dolhpin
[22:14] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  ive never used that feature. :) i just rember the artical
[22:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> everything on my screen is basically frozen besides my mouse and konersation i cant move any windows
[22:15] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  you are the 2nd person now thats mentioned this.. sounding like a bug.
[22:15] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: you just run top in the command line and see what is using the processing power...
[22:15] <rohan> Dr_willis_: wow, can you give me the logs of the first person ? then i'll file a bug
[22:15] <verve> hey.. um.. i had a couple errors during upgrade, and now it seems to have frozen
[22:16] <verve> i was gonna exit out of it, but it said it could render it unusable
[22:16] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  he basicially said what you did
[22:16] <verve> is it safe to close and re-open adept or what?
[22:16] <rohan> Dr_willis_: did he say anyhting about filing a bug ?
[22:16] <bascule> rohan: cut and paste? doesn't update the desktop; files/folders show greyed out?
[22:16] <rohan> bascule: yes, exactly
[22:16] <bascule> me too
[22:16] <rohan> bascule: damn, we're having hte same problems
[22:16] <Dr_willis_> not realy, I  learned how to change the Default filemanager back to Konqueror. :)
[22:16] <bascule> we share a lot of bugs :)
[22:16] <rohan> the volume OSD too, bascule eh ? :)
[22:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: everything is frozen :[
[22:17] <bascule> rohan: yes that too :)
[22:17] <verve> anyone?
[22:17] <rohan> bascule: so, you're filing this one, or i do ?
[22:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: besides this (konversation)
[22:17] <Dr_willis_> volume stuck at 11% ?
[22:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: i cant move any windows
[22:17] <Dr_willis_> just noticed that bug heh heh
[22:17] <rohan> Dr_willis_: yeah
[22:17] <bascule> well I don't mind really
[22:17] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: then  you're screwed.
[22:17] <rohan> bascule: ok, once you do, give me the link, i'll add my "me too"
[22:17] <bascule> Dr_willis_: I submitted the volume bug
[22:18] <irvken> how can I find out what the wifi adpater is on my laptop?
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> looke like i can move 10% total from 100 to 90 :)
[22:18] <rohan> irvken: lspci
[22:18] <rohan> no that won't give the wifi adapter
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> it might :)
[22:18] <rohan> bascule: you're filing right now ?
[22:18] <rohan> Dr_willis_: not here, atleas
[22:19] <bascule> rohan: yeah
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> its not just saying some 'unknown device' ? :)
[22:19] <rohan> bascule: cool :)
[22:19] <carwash^> anyone got bluetooth and a2dp working?
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> Ive given up on wireless. :(
[22:20] <rohan> Dr_willis_: which card ?
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  4 different ones.. :)
[22:20] <bascule> rohan: already there https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/136695
[22:20] <rohan> Dr_willis_: haha
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  even under windows - i jsut dont get a good signal in my house.  so i ran wires
[22:20] <tekteen> Dr_willis: the site is great for preseed but not for running a script at the end. thanks anyway though
[22:20] <rohan> intel ones work well i think, Dr_willis_
[22:20] <rohan> oh, Dr_willis_ , not a linux problem
[22:20] <irvken> lspci doesn't seem to report anything that looks vaguely like the wifi
[22:20] <hydrogen> is there a way to determine what package a file belongs to?
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  check out that 'oem' feature of the alt-cd perhaps.
[22:20] <tekteen> ok
[22:21] <tekteen> thanx
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  wirless dont work too well going through the wall/floors here past all the pipes and wires and ductwork
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> Then again it Barely worked in the same room as the wireless router.
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> Perhaps when wireless N gets cheaper i may try that
[22:21] <flake> trying to backup harddrive onto dvds, it's saying it can only burn 6 directories deep, using gnomebaker..   is that the limit with dvds?
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> flake,  may be an juilet filesystem limit.
[22:22] <irvken> my wireless is fine, just the laptop with a problem
[22:22] <WaltzingAlong> flake: with the filesystem i think
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> thers variations on that - i think that can go deeper.
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> try k3b. it has more features then gnomebaker. and i know you can set that with it.
[22:22] <BrightEyes`> anyone to help me configure grub2???
[22:23] <rohan> BrightEyes`: what is the problem ?
[22:23] <bascule> hydrogen: dpkg -S some/file
[22:23] <hydrogen> bascule: yea.. found that righta fter I asked :)
[22:23] <flake> ok
[22:23] <BrightEyes`> rohan: i uninstalled grub and installed grub2 and i want to find my windows os so i ll be able to boot there too.how can i do that
[22:23] <patxi> hi
[22:23] <bascule> cool
[22:24] <patxi> kubntu 7.10 is rc still
[22:24] <patxi> no?
[22:24] <hydrogen> no
[22:24] <xevious> patxi: nope
[22:24] <rohan> BrightEyes`: sorry, no idea .. never used grub2
[22:24] <patxi> but it is full of bugs
[22:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: now what do i fire up
[22:25] <WaltzingAlong> patxi: 7.04 was 'full of bugs' even still last week!
[22:25]  * rohan wishes he had not formatted his feisty install for gutsy
[22:25] <patxi> amarok re-install every time mp3 support
[22:25] <irvken> looks ok to me, although it's only been on 10 minutes
[22:25] <patxi> adept don't ask me root passwd
[22:25] <hydrogen> sounds like your system is full of bugs
[22:25] <cash> Hello I have issue with Knetwork - icon(connection established) is active all time (when I offline too) ,and Knetwork dont show me wireless networks and when I need to connect I need to set my cable to network card and in Knetwork in ,manua configuration swith off and switch on network interface =(((((( l
[22:25] <hydrogen> Oo
[22:26] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: top is the name of the program
[22:26] <irvken> new laptop, had debian on fro a week never got wireless working on that, thought I'd try the new kubuntu
[22:26] <WaltzingAlong> patxi: adept should but if you typed it once there is a timeout before it needs it again
[22:26] <flake> wow, k3b looks nicer too
[22:26] <cash> help me please (( I tired
[22:26] <rohan> irvken: and now wireless works in kubuntu ?
[22:27] <rohan> bascule: you still have that 0 to 11 % problem ?
[22:27] <bascule> rohan: yeah
[22:27] <rohan> bascule: now i don't get any OSD while setting the volume !
[22:27] <bascule> oh, worse then ... :)
[22:27] <rohan> i updated my intel-hda drivers to the latest ones from alsa-hg
[22:27] <cash> guys
[22:28] <bascule> rohan: ah, I really thing it's a kmixer problem
[22:28] <rohan> bascule: or a kmilo problem (which i think is more likely)
[22:28] <bascule> kmilo, not sure what that is
[22:28] <rohan> because now the volume keys work perfectly, just no OSD
[22:28] <bascule> rohan: I get no volume chae either
[22:28] <bascule> change
[22:29] <irvken> no rohan wireless doesn't work
[22:29] <irvken> I'm in the early stages of tshooting it
[22:29] <rohan> irvken: ah ok
[22:29] <rohan> bascule: bad :(
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: why is my cpu being used so much?
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: what is using so much of my cup
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> cpu
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> somebody help me
[22:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does amarok use that much cpu
[22:31] <rohan> bascule: check out - the drag and drop operation works
[22:31] <rohan> just ctrl-x or right click cut doesn't work
[22:31] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: hit CTRL+alt+escape
[22:31] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: jesus christ... read a damn man page or something. Do you know anything about the command line? If not, then wait for someone who knows how to figure this stuff out in agui to help you. I've already told you the name of the programt hat lets you look at cpu and memory usage.
[22:31] <hydrogen> and see whats using it
[22:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i think i should use the 64bit cause my computer is a 64bit should i?
[22:31] <bascule> strange ....
[22:32] <WaltzingAlong> !language
[22:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[22:32] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: you can, does not mean you have to
[22:32] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i would guess that somthing crashed and is sucking up cpu.  logout/back in
[22:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: i ran top shut up and chill out
[22:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: it never came up
[22:32] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: then reboot your system.
[22:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: can you install flash and stuff now with problems or anything like that?
[22:33] <Dr_willis_> If the system cant respond to a shell command. You got somthing very messed up.   You might be better off rebooting.
[22:33] <BrightEyes`> rohan: i uninstalled grub and installed grub2 and i want to find my windows os so i ll be able to boot there too.how can i do that
[22:33] <hydrogen> err
[22:33] <hydrogen> oops
[22:33] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: thats CTRL+ESCAPE
[22:33] <hydrogen> ctrl_alt_escape is another sequence
[22:33] <hydrogen> as I just demonstrated
[22:33] <rohan> BrightEyes`: 02:54 < rohan> BrightEyes`: sorry, no idea .. never used grub2
[22:33] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yes those things work still, perhaps a step or two (more or other) but sure
[22:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: whats that do? ctrl alt escape do?
[22:33] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: when i had 64 bit hardware i preferred to have the 64bit os
[22:33] <hydrogen> ctrl_alt_escape kills the next selected window
[22:33] <hydrogen> ctrl_escape shows a process table
[22:34] <ChrisMir> Hi, did alt-tab behaviour change with 7.10?
[22:34] <Dr_willis_> ChrisMir,  not that ive noticed.
[22:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: me too but i could never install flash or any of the stuff i needed
[22:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: in feisty
[22:34] <irvken> oh cool, couldn't get my internal adapter working, but the moment I stuck an external usb wifi dapter in it auto configured
[22:34] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: i had it working in feisty.
[22:34] <ChrisMir> hmm, normally I get a popupwindow with apps in the middle of my screen, which now aint happening
[22:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: 64bit?
[22:35] <hydrogen> there is very little reason for a 64bit os
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yes
[22:35] <rohan> ChrisMir: you've compiz enabled ?
[22:35] <ChrisMir> nope
[22:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: was it hard
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: no
[22:35] <hydrogen> with the exception of a placebo
[22:35] <rohan> ChrisMir: well it's working perfectly here ..
[22:35] <Dr_willis_> ChrisMir,  i get a list of apps. same as i al3ways did.
[22:35] <hydrogen> (64bit is obviously twice as fast as 32bit)
[22:35] <rohan> ChrisMir: it lists the open windows
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: hydrogen: yes 64bit desktop os is not the norm now, true
[22:35] <Dr_willis_> ChrisMir,  you using compiz?
[22:35] <ChrisMir> No, I dont use compiz
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> hydrogen: 64bit does not mean 2x as fast as 32bit
[22:35] <ChrisMir> I do have it installed, but kwin is active
[22:35] <Dr_willis_> 2X As cool. :)
[22:36] <hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: I can see that sarcasm is not one of your stronger points
[22:36] <hydrogen> nor is reading..
[22:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: does it go faster as 64bit or no?
[22:36] <rohan> hydrogen: haha
[22:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: i guess im stupid
[22:36] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: no, it doesn't
[22:36] <WaltzingAlong> hydrogen: yes all about user's impression
[22:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: so is it worth installing a 64bit os?
[22:36] <hydrogen> with the exception of a few corner cases
[22:37] <rohan> why are some items disabled in firefox's "Help" menu ?
[22:37] <Dr_willis_> I dont see much need to use a 64bit os for most people.
[22:37] <rohan> report web forgery and such ?
[22:37] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: you will likely not notice a difference in speed with desktop computing (64bit vs 32bit)
[22:37] <prak> does anyone know how to update kubuntu through the gutsy cd?
[22:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> well my computer is using 85 percent of cpu and i have 2 programs running
[22:37] <WaltzingAlong> as easily as one could argue that most of the people using desktop computers now are not using the 32bits worth
[22:37] <BrightEyes`> whats "rootnoverify" and whats the last symbol in "(hd0,0)" ?
[22:37] <WaltzingAlong> prak: you need the dvd or the alternate-cd (not live/desktop)
[22:37] <Dr_willis_> Report Web Forgey works here.
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  what last symbol?
[22:38] <lido76-11> hallloooo
[22:38] <prak> WaltzingAlong: i got the desktop CD
[22:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> well my computer is using 85 percent of cpu and i have 2 programs running WaltzingAlong
[22:38] <rohan> Dr_willis_: yes, my mistake
[22:38] <rohan> "Check for updates" doesn't
[22:38] <WaltzingAlong> prak: then you cannot.
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> rootnoverify  tells it to set the partition as root. and just DO it.. :)
[22:38] <binduwavell> I installed a pre-release of gutsy, now that it's released I'm being told in adept that I'm supposed to version upgrade, but the version upgrade tool says I'm already upgraded... any suggestions?
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  thats beause updates are handled with the package manager system. Not firefox itself.
[22:38] <WaltzingAlong> !final | binduwavell
[22:38] <ubotu> binduwavell: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[22:38] <ChrisMir> Instead of the list of apps, apps are just switched, when I use alt-tab. `kwin --replace` didn't solve it. :/
[22:39] <Dr_willis_> binduwavell,  you are upgraded then.
[22:39] <rohan> Dr_willis_: i know that, yet i was just curious ;)
[22:39] <WaltzingAlong> binduwavell: but yes that is a known issue (being asked to install gutsy on systems with gutsy)
[22:39] <BrightEyes`> Dr_willis: the hd0,0 the last 0
[22:39] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  thats the partition #. grub basics here. :)
[22:39] <rohan> Dr_willis_: btw, how did you change the default file manager to konqueror ? i don't think i like dolphin
[22:39] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it may be the strigi indexer..
[22:39] <hydrogen> rohan: its in systemsettings/kcontrol
[22:39] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: how do i disable that
[22:39] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  let me check. ya got to fire up konwueror. under  Settings/Configure Konwueror.
[22:40] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: uninstall it is the quick way..
[22:40] <hydrogen> theres a way to stop it form indexing
[22:40] <hydrogen> I think
[22:40] <hangthedj> hydrogen, thats what i did
[22:40] <hydrogen> I just uninstalled it
[22:40] <rohan> Dr_willis_: and then ?
[22:40] <hangthedj> you have to go to like strigi:/config in konq i think
[22:40] <waterpie> hi all
[22:40] <rohan> hydrogen: where ? i don't see it in "Default applications" atleast
[22:40] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  File Assouations ->  INODE. - select each item and look. Move 'konqueror' up the list   where its above  Dolphin
[22:41] <waterpie> how do you set konqueror as default instead of dolphin?
[22:41] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  you are basicially setting the default file assicaton for 'direcroties' :)
[22:41] <Dr_willis_>  fire up konwueror  ->   Settings/Configure Konwueror.
[22:41] <WaltzingAlong> directories but also system:/ media:/
[22:41] <rohan> Dr_willis_: i see .. thanks a lot
[22:41] <Dr_willis_> File Assouations ->  INODE. - select each item and look. Move 'konqueror' up the list   where its above  Dolphin
[22:41] <irvken> I've installed compiz how do i get it work?
[22:41] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[22:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[22:42] <binduwavell> ubotu, Dr_willis & WaltzingAlong: thanks... but why do I keep getting notified I'm supposed to version upgrade? btw, i did apt-get update and dist-upgrade both indicate I'm up to date...
[22:42] <rohan> wow ubotu displays different factoids depending on the channel .. cool
[22:42] <Dr_willis_> Its a bugglet binduwavell
[22:42] <Dr_willis_>  if they say you are up to date.. then you are.
[22:42] <WaltzingAlong> binduwavell: you are but it is a bug
[22:42] <WaltzingAlong> rohan: and depending on the query!
[22:42] <binduwavell> Dr_willis_: OK, so I just ignore for now?
[22:42] <binduwavell> I just got kopete fixed... just trying to do cleanup :)
[22:42] <Dr_willis_> binduwavell,  got a better idea? :) yes..ignore it.
[22:43] <binduwavell> Dr_willis: kk, thanks
[22:43] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)
[22:44] <ChrisMir> Hmm.. 'configure window behaviour' -> Focus -> enabling  'show window list while switching windows', gave me back the normal behaviour, although with the mentioned frames. weirdness
[22:44] <waterpie> Dr_willis: Thanks
[22:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: quick before my cpu is using 100 percent how do i uninstall strigi
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> here we go...
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> To Make konqueror the default file manager intead of Dolphin do the following  Start Konqueror -> Settings->Configure Konqueror -> File Assoiations -> INODE,
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> Under "Directrory" and "System Directory"  Move Konqueror UP the list above dolphin.
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> Is that clear enough for a factoid? :)
[22:46] <edenbeast> anybody know where I can allow my windows to traverse multiple desktops when I drag them? I can't remember where that setting is :-)
[22:46] <Kr4t05> TBH, I prefer Dolphin to Konqueror.
[22:46] <waterpie> when i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[22:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: you there man?
[22:47] <Garnam> Hello everybody
[22:47] <rohan> WaltzingAlong: country ? can you give me an example ?
[22:47] <Dr_willis_> The More i use Dolphin the more i HATE it. :)
[22:47] <Dr_willis_> then again - i do use some of the more odd features of the Konqueror file manager
[22:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know how to uninstall strigi
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  sudo apt-get remove strigi
[22:48] <nicolai_> Dr_willis_: thank you for the guide
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> !info strigi
[22:48] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in gutsy
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> if we can find the RIGHT package name. :)
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> !find strigi
[22:48] <ubotu> Found: libstrigihtmlgui-dev, libstrigihtmlgui0, libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev, libstrigiqtdbusclient0, strigi-applet (and 5 others)
[22:48] <nicolai_> Dr_willis_: Dolphin is one big bug on my gutsy install
[22:48] <edenbeast> I don't like that dolphin doesn't use tabs :-/
[22:48] <ChrisMir> Kr4t05: I do like dolphin a lot and I really would love to use it, but I'm so used to used to just type ftp://, fish:// and always have a multitude of tabs open
[22:49] <Garnam> I updated my kubuntu to Gutsy yesterday, and it errored out at around 75% due to problems with installing nvivia-glx. Is there any way to check which packages got purged / not updated so taht I can be sure that my system is complete? I found no defects until now. Or should I do a clean install after something like this?
[22:49] <John117> Hey, i am running Gutsy and I just tried to install CompizFusion.  This is the error message I got: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde
[22:49] <oritemis> hi, I installed compiz fusion into kubuntu gutsy and a white border line appear in context menu, somone had the same problem?
[22:49] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: tried dpkg -C
[22:50] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: no, testimg now
[22:50] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: gives no output whatsoever
[22:51] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: Interesting
[22:51] <edenbeast> I tried compiz-fusion as well and it just can't hold a candle to what beryl was :-/
[22:52] <WaltzingAlong> rohan: an  example of what?
[22:52] <John117> peopld told me compiz was better than beryl.
[22:52] <bascule> edenbeast: what was better in beryl?
[22:52] <h3sp4wn> They were 99.5% identical anyway
[22:52] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: yea, but i have some packages taht are not qiuet three, nvidia-driver doesn't work, but there are no further defects and it tells me i have the latest version of all packages, despite erroring out at 75%
[22:52] <aspirin_on_kubun> how can set brightness-contrast?
[22:52] <John117> Nobody can give me a straight answer that works.  Why is everyting so complicate?  Why can't you just INSTALL A PROGRAM? LOL How do i install Compiz on Kubuntu Gutsy
[22:53] <bascule> John117: use adept
[22:53] <h3sp4wn> John117: I can install a program
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> John117,  you havent followed that compiz url yet yave ya?
[22:53] <snikker> i've got small fonts in all application afte update to gusty. how can i fix this?
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> it tells you what you need to install.
[22:53] <John117> what compiz url?
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[22:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[22:53] <oritemis> hi, I installed compiz fusion into kubuntu gutsy and a white border line appear in context menu, somone had the same problem?
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> it gets pasted in ehre every 4 min
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> Theres a reason Compiz wasent included by default. :)
[22:53] <AmyRose> OK, I got a log from my failure to get KDE 4 working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41435/
[22:54] <Garnam> h3sp4wn:  oh my god, so many typos, kill me now please
[22:54] <John117> Okay..  dr_willis, I read that.  And am getting an error message.  I posted the error message here when i entered.  did anybody see it?
[22:54] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I read it as that are not quiet there
[22:54] <edenbeast> the configuration manager you got with beryl was awesome
[22:54] <John117> Everybody says follow the link..  read the instructions.. but the instructions never work.
[22:54] <bascule> 3 years ago, linux is free it's stable it is customizable it is flexible, now "OOOOHH, spinning cube .... gimme!!" ;)
[22:54] <edenbeast> ccsm is a horror
[22:54] <Dr_willis_> John117,  i dident see an erorr message - i saw your 'apt-get install line'
[22:54] <John117> I just installed this version of kubuntu yesterday.  I've done nothing with it.
[22:55] <AmyRose> bascule: But me love spinning cube!
[22:55] <Dr_willis_>  sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde      --> is NOT an error message ;)
[22:55] <John117> ERROR MESSAGE > E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:55] <WaltzingAlong> !fixapt | John117
[22:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:55] <WaltzingAlong> John117: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:55] <bascule> AmyRose: me too, it's just the whole 'shiny thing' mentality that makes me laugh
[22:55] <edenbeast> I don't like the cube much but there are other features I find handy, the only sore thing is virtual desktop support :-/
[22:55] <Dr_willis_> I find the cube useless.. :) except to show off.
[22:56] <AmyRose> bascule: Yeah, I was on Linux before Compiz and Beryl were even invented... ;)
[22:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i only use one desktop :]
[22:56] <bascule> AmyRose: and me, rpm hell and all
[22:56] <ScorpKing> i get "E: The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened." when running apt-get update to update apt on a local repo. why is it saying that?
[22:56] <John117> DR_WILLIS hey..  was my probblem that adept was open on the desktop while i was tyring to do it?
[22:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hey ScorpKing :]
[22:56] <moofoo> if compiz would not make resizing of windows so uber-slow, i would might even use it :p
[22:56] <ScorpKing> :D hiya!
[22:56] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: oh, in xorg.con there is nvidia as driver, but glxgears gives me "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display", thes shouldn't be possible, or is nv taken as silent fallback now?
[22:56] <Dr_willis_> John117,  ONLY one 'installer' application can be running at a time.. so YES that was your pboelm
[22:57] <moofoo> bug kde4 will make compiz obsolete hopefully..
[22:57] <John117> dr_wallis thank you, sir.
[22:57] <Dr_willis_> moofoo,  i Hope so. :)
[22:57] <AmyRose> moofoo: Bug?
[22:57] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I don't know how that bit works but I believe that bulletproof X spec was implimented
[22:57] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: is sources.list listing gutsy ?
[22:58] <moofoo> AmyRose: s/bug/but/ :)
[22:58] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (see what aptitude says I don't trust any other program for major upgrades)
[22:58] <wolfger> hey all. Launchpad is confusing as heck to me.... Where should I go to file a KDE4 packaging (I think) bug?
[22:58] <John117> dr_willis_ i'm getting more errors.
[22:58] <h3sp4wn> wolfger: It is to me also
[22:58] <John117> dr_willis_ talking about packages with unmet dependancies.
[22:59] <h3sp4wn> Anyone know whether the launchpad integration for reportbug or reportbug-ng was completed
[22:59] <WaltzingAlong> but perhaps the new shiny thing can bring enough interest (users) to gnu/linux that more interest is placed there
[22:59] <AmyRose> wolfger: The easiest way to figure this out is to go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the package you want to report a bug on, go to its page, and go to the bug finding link at the bottom of the page
[22:59] <bascule> sure
[22:59] <h3sp4wn> also what about the /etc/event.d stuff that was supposed to replace init.d completely by edgy+2
[22:59] <wolfger> thanks, AmyRose
[22:59] <AmyRose> wolfger: Then if you need to report a new bug, just click Report a Bug or something like that
[22:59] <John117> What is going to bring more users to gnu/linux is making this stuff easier to install.
[23:00] <Dr_willis_> John117,  do an 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try installing the packages again.
[23:00] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: Adept says Gutsy all the way. I thaught bulletproof X spec is only in use for Gnome and gdm for now, nor kdm.
[23:00] <edenbeast> it doesn't come easier than this really :-)
[23:00] <Oakbox> Hi all, i just installed Gutsy (again) im newish to linux played to much and broke it :) oh well...  But now that i have reinstalled the update manager keeps telling me that i havent got the latest version :S any ideas???
[23:00] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: I totally accept that we needed some sort of killer app/feature to grab peoples attention, it's just that so many care of nothing else ...
[23:00] <edenbeast> but compiz isn't really a trivial thing
[23:00] <WaltzingAlong> John117: i doubt so many were held back by how hard things were to install but certainly some were; having neat things to do with it would bring yet others
[23:00] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I have no idea how it was implimented or not implimented
[23:00] <AmyRose> Oakbox: I think that's a known bug
[23:00] <waterpie> when i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[23:00] <edenbeast> it would be comparable to replacing gdi+ and gdi on a windows pc I guess
[23:00] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: so when we get them here to show them the rest of the show, that is the trick i suppose
[23:01] <bascule> yeah, I suppose :)
[23:01] <Oakbox> AmyRose: ok as long as its not me doing something wrong :) ta muchly
[23:01] <marcondes> hi
[23:01] <h3sp4wn> bascule: amarok is good enough for that as the killer application
[23:01] <edenbeast> but honestly it doesn't get better than apt-get install <big office suite> and after a while it's just there :-)
[23:02] <marcondes> algum brasileiro?
[23:02] <bascule> h3sp4wn: yeah i converted 4 people prior to compiz with amarok, about 10 since ... :)
[23:02] <WaltzingAlong> i know of no one coming to gnu/linux based on the audio player
[23:02] <AmyRose> !br | marcondes
[23:02] <ubotu> marcondes: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:02] <WaltzingAlong> but i have known several to enjoy it (amarok) once they used it
[23:02] <mayeco> ubutu hey!
[23:02] <edenbeast> yes amarok is amazing
[23:02] <mayeco> ubotu: hey!
[23:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:02] <mayeco> hahaha
[23:02] <Cugel> Amarok is big, but it does its job.
[23:02] <edenbeast> I switched to kde because of it :P
[23:02] <marcondes> perdao a muito tempo que nao uso irc. e to meio perdido
[23:02] <waterpie> when i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[23:02] <mayeco> hola me llamo mario y vivo en panama y soy de colombia
[23:03] <h3sp4wn> bascule: I have got rid of linux on my mainpc - zfs is worth the extra hassle it causes for everything else for me
[23:03] <edenbeast> that and kde printing
[23:03] <marcondes> nem lembro mais os comandos
[23:03] <AmyRose> h3sp4wn: But it's getting ported to Windoze, huh?
[23:03] <marcondes> enfim
[23:03] <John117> dr_willis_ umet dependances..  broken packages.   I already installed the repositories.
[23:03] <moofoo> is there actually a good english grammar checker for linux?
[23:03] <WaltzingAlong> !es
[23:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:03] <h3sp4wn> AmyRose: Good
[23:03] <bascule> h3sp4wn: solaris?
[23:03] <AmyRose> h3sp4wn: GOOD?!
[23:03] <mayeco> hahahahahah I dont know that ubotu do that!
[23:03] <h3sp4wn> bascule: solaris express
[23:03] <AmyRose> !bot | mayeco
[23:03] <edenbeast> john117 do you have the correct repositories in your sources.list file? (how did your atheros installation go?)
[23:03] <ubotu> mayeco: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:03] <bascule> cool, OSX is mentioning zfs soon
[23:04] <mayeco> what is that AmyRose?
[23:04] <h3sp4wn> AmyRose: yep if they make the code more portable (so it works with windows) better chance it won't have linux isms in it that break it on Solaris
[23:04] <edenbeast> I wish we'd had native zfs, that would be sweet :-/
[23:04] <WaltzingAlong> moofoo: aspell but for spelling; otherwise i am not sure. there exist, as far as i know, only two large electronic dictionaries (those needed for complete grammar checking)
[23:04] <mayeco> AmyRose: !bot | xxx?
[23:04] <AmyRose> h3sp4wn: Oh, OK
[23:04] <don_> hey guys
[23:04] <don_> i installed compiz fusion
[23:04] <John117> edenbeast hey! atheros was already installed!  it was too damned cryptic to get to the hardware settings.  I had to right click on the desktop icon for network and it listed my home network there.  There should be a  seprate tray icon for wireless and wired network.
[23:04] <AmyRose> mayeco: You can get ubotu to tell someone about something by using a | followed by the target's nick
[23:04] <bascule> h3sp4wn: got a url that gives a brief outline of zfs features?
[23:04] <don_> and for some reason , i am missing the top of my widnows lol
[23:04] <don_> i cant move them around
[23:04] <don_> they get stuck to the top
[23:04] <alucard> hello community
[23:04] <alucard> ;)
[23:05] <AmyRose> !hi | alucard
[23:05] <ubotu> alucard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[23:05] <WaltzingAlong> don_: start kwin ? have you been running compiz-fusion
[23:05] <John117> edenbeast Dr_willis_ I have added the repositories that are on the instruction website that you sent me a link for.  then i updated the repositories.  All of it was successful.
[23:05] <don_> yes i am on compiz-fusion i think lol
[23:05] <moofoo> WaltzingAlong: yes i'm aware of aspell/ispell but as you said.. they only check spelling :(
[23:05] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: ok, even sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade says I'm up to date, it just wants to delete 209 packets and update 1. Funny(-not-so) situation. Seems as if it succedet in installing all the packages and errored out before removing the old ones.
[23:05] <alucard> i need help... i have kubuntu installed on ibm t61, i've ran an update to 7.10
[23:05] <AmyRose> moofoo: Just learn the rules of grammar! It's what I did. =P
[23:05] <don_> kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace)
[23:06] <alucard> somewhere in the middle adept crashed and system is at the mmt... in a bad condition
[23:06] <mayeco> !tell mayeco about KDE
[23:06] <Aranel> how can I colorize my console ?
[23:06] <alucard> can sbdy plz help me?
[23:06] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: try - sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:06] <WaltzingAlong> don_: kwin --replace
[23:06] <teste> l,sls,
[23:06] <AmyRose> !tell mayeco about hi
[23:06] <Aranel> (green for directories, blue for files etc.)
[23:06] <RichardBH> !KDE | mayeco
[23:06] <ubotu> mayeco: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[23:06] <mayeco> nice!!!!!!!!!
[23:06] <moofoo> AmyRose: yes, but even if you know the rules, it's nice to have an automated checked as a computer might spot something you did not notice (like the good old "count all f" test)
[23:06] <edenbeast> aranel you mean you ls output?
[23:06] <don_> hmm now beryl aint working :(
[23:06] <h3sp4wn> bascule: http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.html
[23:07] <mayeco> thanks AmyRose!!
[23:07] <Aranel> edenbeast: yes.
[23:07] <h3sp4wn> bascule: *grml*
[23:07] <edenbeast> aranel ls --color
[23:07] <Phoenix_1> hey men, i need help with partition
[23:07] <John117> Am i beyond help?  Nobody wants to help?
[23:07] <edenbeast> aranel easiest is to add an alias ls="ls --color"
[23:07] <AmyRose> John117: Sorry, what's your problem?
[23:07]  * Dr_willis_ is busy editing the compiz wiki page.
[23:07] <Aranel> edenbeast: thanks a lot :)
[23:07] <Oakbox> !gcc
[23:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[23:08] <moofoo> i know of whitesmoke enrichment for windows that actually performs quite well.. but as its more or less integrated into the system and so it does not run with wine.. :/
[23:08] <waterpie> When i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[23:08] <John117> amyrose I am trying to install compiz on gutsy.  I followed the link from ubotu.  I added the repositories..  updated.. tried to install.  I'm getting messages about "E: broken packages" and unmet dependancies
[23:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what docks can i install?
[23:08] <WaltzingAlong> getting stuck making some thumbnails? waterpie
[23:09] <RichardBH> anybody know why my contacts cant see custom emoticons sent from kopete?
[23:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  fire up the package manager and search for 'dock'
[23:09] <WaltzingAlong> John117: you need to use gutsy in place of feisty if you are on gutsy
[23:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  none of them have impressed me much.
[23:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i did that before you said it
[23:09] <bascule> h3sp4wn: thanks
[23:09] <John117> waltzingalong why does the tutorial not fricking say that?
[23:09] <stdin> RichardBH: because they don't have the same emoticons installed
[23:09] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: hm, ok, there are some packages missing, but he wants to uninstall too many packages. There is no way I'm going to let him unistall things like tetex-base, any way to exclude some packages?
[23:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  many of them are really really.. bad. :)
[23:09] <waterpie> WaltzingAlong: i rebooted with not one window open. I don't know how to make it stop
[23:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: whats the most stable
[23:10] <RichardBH> stdin: theyre on WLM; they were the ones who sent it to me - when i send it back, they just see the text string instead
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i dident find any of them stable. dident find any of them useable..
[23:10] <WaltzingAlong> John117: the link from ubotu still refers to feisty (7.04)
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> !find dock
[23:10] <ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> !info kooldock
[23:10] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[23:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i have this one installed
[23:11] <tysonsw> how do I change ownership of a fil/arcive??
[23:11] <alucard> tysonsw: man chmod
[23:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: It should be removing tetex
[23:11] <stdin> RichardBH: I don't know how wlm does it, but it's usually the job of the client to turn the text code into the emoticon when it's received
[23:11] <AmyRose> John117: OK, can you try a sudo apt-get -f install ?
[23:11] <John117> waltzingalong thank you.  I made that change and i'm updating again.  Well try again and i'm sure I"ll have MORE PROBLEMS.  LOL
[23:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: You can switch to texlive
[23:11] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  kooldock dosent seem to work for me at all
[23:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: tetex is unmaintained anyway
[23:12] <WaltzingAlong> John117: call them learning opportunities :D
[23:12] <RichardBH> stdin - intriguing
[23:12] <Oakbox> how do i stop kubuntu installing packages from disc and get them from the internet instead?
[23:12] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: Let it do what it needs to to get kubuntu-desktop installed
[23:12] <alucard> can somebody help me? i have a problem with 7.10 upgrade
[23:12] <tysonsw> how do I change ownership of a fil/arcive??
[23:12] <moofoo> bascule: if you want to know about zfs here is the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8100808442979626078 :)
[23:12] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: is it 100% compatible? I have some older projects I'm not gonna touch
[23:12] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: command line? sudo chown user:grp file   like   sudo chown tyson:tyson myvideo.ogm
[23:13] <Oakbox> tysonsw: i think you would use chown
[23:13] <Oakbox> WaltzingAlong: too quick for me :)
[23:13] <WaltzingAlong> Oakbox: dvorak :D
[23:13] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong can you use that for a folder to??
[23:13] <dergringo> Anyone got the audio controls running on Thinkpad T61 ?
[23:13] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: useing some old packages like picins (lat updated 1992) I can't replace
[23:13]  * ScorpKing 38s lag. :( useless dailup...
[23:13] <tysonsw> like ALL folders?
[23:13] <John117> amyroz I added the repositories.  I changed "fiesty" to "gutsy"  I ran "sudo get-apt" and it said that "
[23:13] <John117> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages
[23:13] <John117>   404 Not Found
[23:13] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I don't know enough about latex to answer this question
[23:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ScorpKing: i have 72 ms lag
[23:14] <snikker> i've got small fonts in all applications after update to gusty. how can i fix this?
[23:14] <Dr_willis_> http://ppa.launchpad.net - is some 3rd party  repo i belive
[23:14] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: You could run a chroot of feisty if you absolutely had to for those older projects though
[23:14] <h3sp4wn> (or dapper etc)
[23:14] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: from the gui? well a few more steps because you need first to be 'root' with the gui app, say dolphin or konqueror. so you would want to start either with kdesu konqueror      but generally this is not a good idea (not a 'best practice')  then just right mouse click the file, type the name of the user/group, and tada
[23:15] <waterpie> bye all
[23:15] <moofoo> h3sp4wn: i suppose you already know the zfs video ... if not its funny ;)
[23:15] <WaltzingAlong> !fonts
[23:15] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: hm, ok they, let's find out. What good are system-backups if I'm not gonna use them ...
[23:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[23:15] <Oakbox> !reposotory
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reposotory - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <ardchoille> !repos
[23:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:16] <Oakbox> ta if that was for me :)
[23:16] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: gui app?
[23:16] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: graphical user interface application; cli command line interface
[23:17] <John117> amyrose
[23:17] <John117> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages
[23:17] <John117>   404 Not Found
[23:17] <stdin> John117: if you read the instructions it tells you that you don't need to add the repositories for gutsy
[23:17] <stdin> I know it says that, I put it there
[23:17] <John117> stdin yes.. but uhm.. its ben WRONG in every other eay.
[23:17] <John117> stdin way.
[23:17] <Dr_willis_> John117,  thats just one repo thats not updated yet. I would say comment it out.. or just ignore the error.
[23:17] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: how do I access that program?
[23:18] <John117> dr_willis I thought ubuntu "just works"
[23:18] <stdin> John117: wrong? what didn't work and what was the output?
[23:18] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: on which file do you wish to change ownership
[23:18] <John117> stdin i can't paste the out put here.. it would be flooding.
[23:18] <stdin> !paste
[23:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:18] <tysonsw>  WaltzingAlong  source.list
[23:18] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | John117
[23:18] <ubotu> John117: please see above
[23:19] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: /etc/apt/sources.list ? should be root:root
[23:19] <Oakbox> how do i get kubuntu to stop asking for the CD when i install new software?
[23:19] <vbgunz> anyone know why none of the external devices, usb sticks, cards, drives show up on the desktop *until* one is unmounted, then remounted? unmoun one, and remount it, they all show up
[23:19] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: but you want to edit it? alt+f2 then type          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                you can also use adept_manager to edit the contents in a graphical way
[23:19] <vbgunz> any way to fix this?
[23:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> if i make 2 panels how can i edit one and not the other
[23:20] <Garnam> Oakbox: delete all references to the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:20] <Oakbox> Garnam: ta :)
[23:20] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: no icon for unmounted removable devices? this means every device existing, ok well not quite but a lot :D
[23:20] <ScorpKing> i'm trying to use my local repo. E: Problem with MergeList /var/apt/lists/<IP_ADDRESS>_ubuntu_dists_feisty_main_binary-i386_Packages is the error i get.
[23:20] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong adept_manager doesn't work becurse of an error in that file.. witch I need to correct.. and if I type /etc/apt/source.list.. it sais that that file och catalog doesn't exist
[23:20] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: sorry, I have no idea what you said :(
[23:21] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[23:21] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[23:21] <Angelus> wil lthere ever be http mirrors available for the kubuntu live-dvd ? cause their aint much seaders on torrent
[23:21] <John117> waltzingalong amyrose stdin this is my error ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41439/
[23:21] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: no icon for unmounted removable devices? what is removable media? something that can be inserted quickly/easily and removed quickly/easily; what is unmounted? not presently mounted; so an icon for all devices which are not mounted and removable would be an icon not just for your ipod but mine, and all others
[23:22] <AmyRose> brb
[23:22] <AmyRose> going into KDE 4
[23:22] <stdin> John117: yes, that's because you added those repositories, remove them
[23:22] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: but as for the issue with more icons showing up when one partition on a removable device is mounted, yeah that may be an existing bug or perhaps you could report it
[23:22] <my> hello all
[23:22] <John117> stdin okay.
[23:22] <Kernel> !sio
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <Kernel> !iso
[23:22] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong adept_manager doesn't work becurse of an error in that file.. witch I need to correct.. and if I type /etc/apt/source.list.. it sais that that file och catalog doesn't exist
[23:22] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:22] <my> need some help, last problem to finish the system
[23:22] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: press alt and f2; this will bring up "run command"; here type   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:23] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: I think you misunderstood. I have several devices that are mounted *but* do not show up on the desktop... I have 3 of them mounted by default on startup. the only way to get them to all show up at once, is to unmount anyone of them and then remount it. doing this. they all show up
[23:23] <John117> stdin removed
[23:23] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: sure but i read two issues. this one you just detailed and the other as well
[23:23] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong all I get is a blank file
[23:23] <stdin> John117: now try installing the packages
[23:24] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: take a break, you need a rest :)
[23:24] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: lol :D
[23:24] <NickPresta> Greetings, #kubuntu
[23:24] <BloodyTux> Wud up d00ds?
[23:25] <WaltzingAlong> spelling and grammar test at 13:00
[23:25] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong all I get is a blank file
[23:25] <edenbeast> yuo feel
[23:25] <vbgunz> anybodies external usb devices, sticks, show up on the desktop when you first boot?
[23:25] <BloodyTux> frzoe
[23:25] <BloodyTux> ...
[23:25] <John117> stdin now THIS is the error i got.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41440/
[23:25] <BloodyTux> this is fun
[23:25] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: so what was the complaint about that file anyway? that there was an error with it? which error? that it contained invalid data or no data?
[23:25] <BloodyTux> lag
[23:26] <BloodyTux> K, we're good
[23:26]  * ScorpKing wonders if he will have to install all the packages he want's one by one...
[23:26] <edenbeast> John117: it's called compiz-core
[23:26]  * BloodyTux looks, "Yep."
[23:26] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong invalid adress.. and I can't change in th file.. the system says that I am not root.. even if I am in the root grupp
[23:26] <BloodyTux> ScorpKing: what do you want to do?
[23:26] <dvayanu> hi... is there any chance to get back to feistys alt-tab behaviour in gutsy?
[23:26] <stdin> John117: open adept, go to Adept > Manage Repositories and enable the ones on the 1st tab
[23:26] <my> I have the wireless working using the restricted drivers manager
[23:27] <John117> edenbest when where do i get more update instructions?  I ask a question and you people send me an automated response from obutu and then i follow it and you say "it should be this" or "that's not right"
[23:27] <my> the only thing is that the networks do no appear
[23:27] <edenbeast> he typed compiz instead of compiz-core
[23:27] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: you do not need to be 'root' but you should open the file with kate using kdesu so like i mentioned, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list          but this assumed that the user account you are using is in the 'admin' group
[23:27] <stdin> edenbeast: "compiz" is the package
[23:27] <edenbeast> john117 you have to type compiz-core instead of the first compiz :-)
[23:27] <ScorpKing> BloodyTux: i'm trying to use my local repo.  ARGG..
[23:27] <edenbeast> stdin here it's called compiz-core :-/
[23:27] <stdin> !caps | John117
[23:27] <ubotu> John117: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:28] <edenbeast> stdin but if he omits it, shouldn't compiz-kde pull it in?
[23:28] <stdin> edenbeast: see "apt-cache policy compiz"
[23:28] <Dr_willis_> is this under feisty? or Gutsy? i missee that point.
[23:28] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong I am the only account on this computer
[23:28] <ScorpKing> BloodyTux: :P
[23:28] <WaltzingAlong> John117: really the frustration may not be worth compiz-fusion in kde 3.5.8. my suggestion is to play with compiz-fusion in gnome but come back to kde with kde4 when those types of effects will be included
[23:28] <BloodyTux> ScorpKing: Umm... I got no clue ^.^ Never tried anything like that xD
[23:28] <ScorpKing> lol
[23:28] <John117> stdin there is nothing on the "first tab"
[23:28] <stdin> edenbeast: the line he pus installs all the compiz packages and compiz-kde
[23:28] <tysonsw> tysonsw when i rightklick on the file and ses who the owner is.. it says that root is owner and root group
[23:29] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong when i rightklick on the file and ses who the owner is.. it says that root is owner and root group
[23:29] <BloodyTux> John117: What's going on?
[23:29] <edenbeast> stdin but here I got ii  compiz-core                                             1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1
[23:29] <edenbeast> it won't find just compiz here either
[23:29] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: which it should be.
[23:29] <stdin> edenbeast: that's one of the packges, compiz pulls that too
[23:29] <John117> bloodytux i'm ready to go back to windows.  that's whats going on . :)
[23:29] <BloodyTux> XD LMFAO
[23:30] <BloodyTux> John117: Lemme guess, program won't work?
[23:30] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: you should leave the file set as owned by user root and group root. but you can get 'root'-like access to it through the command             kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                  which you can start with alt+f2
[23:30] <stdin> John117: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8648/cap3jf4.png < like that
[23:30] <John117> bloodytux it's everything.   I ask "how do you install xxxxx" and i get a reply from "ubotu"   I follow the instructions and there are erros.
[23:30] <dvayanu> can i configure alt-tab (walk through windows) to work the same way it did in feisty (and also on macosx and windows) in gutsy?
[23:31] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong yes.. and then I try to change the file. but it says that I don't have write privi on it..
[23:31] <BloodyTux> John117: Ouch. What are you trying to install?
[23:31] <vbgunz> I want my sons account to have only "read only" access to all external devices. how do I do this in Gutsy?
[23:31] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong when I do what you say.. it only gives me a empty document
[23:31] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: kmenu/system settings/window behavior?
[23:31]  * ScorpKing wonders where all the clever people are today and goes away...
[23:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> if i make 2 panels how can i edit one and not the other
[23:31] <John117> boodytux compiz
[23:31] <John117> stdin i did that.
[23:31] <John117> stdin just now
[23:32] <John117> stdin try again?
[23:32] <Dr_willis_> compiz under Feisty or gutsy? I missed that part.
[23:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BloodyTux: remember me from yesterday im LiL-JoN
[23:32] <BloodyTux> John117: Apt-get or Synaptic not working?
[23:32] <stdin> John117: yes, it should work now you've enabled those repositories
[23:32] <John117> dr_wallis gutsy
[23:32] <BloodyTux> Atomguy: Ya, what's up?
[23:32] <Dr_willis_> compiz is a very complex and  detailed set of tools that have to work just right. its also VERY much a work in progreess..
[23:32] <John117> stdin <sigh> try again...
[23:32] <stdin> John117: make sure you close adept before you try apt-get
[23:32] <andreas> h3sp4wn: Ah ok, this looks more like the new version of KDE, thanks. And automount of USB-Sticks now works, too. (But it disables my keyboard if any USB-Stick is mounted, not in the mood to look after this right now... )
[23:32] <Dr_willis_> John117,  this was a clean install? or a upgrade?
[23:33] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: so there you have it. an empty document. does kate show in the title sources.list?    if so, put the following as its own line then close kate (save the file):  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy 		main restricted universe multiverse
[23:33] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: great thanx! show window list was the option... if its unset the order is broken, weird :-) but works now
[23:33] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: great! :D
[23:33] <John117> dr_willis_ clean
[23:33] <Schuenemann> hey, how can I check my disk usage?
[23:33] <Schuenemann> can't find my partition in konqueror
[23:33] <John117> stdin no good.. now it says its locked again as though adept were open.. which it is not.
[23:34] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: is there somewhere a list of changes to default settings? :-) edgy--> feisty was great, feisty-gutsy everything changed
[23:34] <Schuenemann> I mean under /media
[23:34] <prak> how do i upgrade to gutsy through the alternate cd
[23:34] <vbgunz> anyone know how to give an account, read only access to all external devices?
[23:34] <prak> ?
[23:34] <John117> stdin adept is closed
[23:34] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: i usually give kpersonalizer a run to set some quick defaults but then customize from there
[23:34] <stdin> John117: ok, try "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" to unlock it
[23:34] <Dr_willis_> vbgunz,  i think you might have to mess with the groups for that kind of controll.
[23:35] <vbgunz> Dr_willis, thats the thing, my son is only in his group... I can never get the "apply" button to light up on user controls. I think it may be broken :(
[23:35] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong but if I have feisty then??
[23:35] <stdin> prak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-93ac2e597b9e0c5ff78111d4fd2bbe34a35799c7
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> ryanakca: kopete crashing?
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: with feisty change the 'gutsy' to 'feisty'
[23:35] <John117> stdin hot damn its connecting.  somebody should add this to instructions!!!
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> !source-o-matic | tysonsw
[23:35] <ubotu> tysonsw: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[23:36] <John117> stdin those boxes were not checked by default!  If they need to be checked, they should be
[23:36] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: you can also have source-o-magic generate a list of sources for you
[23:36] <stdin> John117: they are by default
[23:36] <John117> stdin *I* didn't change them.
[23:36] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong now I am in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/
[23:36] <Schuenemann> Where can I check how much free space I have on my partition? I don't see it under /media
[23:36] <John117> stdin there must be something wrong.
[23:37] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: df -h
[23:37] <stdin> John117: unless something disabled those sources, or possible if you install with no network connection
[23:37] <BloodyTux> John117
[23:37] <BloodyTux> ...
[23:37] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: or df -h .
[23:37] <ryanakca> WaltzingAlong: thanks :)
[23:37] <Schuenemann> WaltzingAlong, can I check that graphically too, as I can with my other partitions?
[23:37] <BloodyTux> John117: It's me.. Muahahahaha. I agree with stdin, it might be that a program you installed unchecked them.
[23:37] <John117> stdin I did install with no network connection.. it took me 2 days to get the network working.. holy crap this is so complicated..  no such thing as plug and play with ubuntu. LOL
[23:37] <seriekrock> yo
[23:37] <BloodyTux> XD
[23:37] <edenbeast> vbgunz what kind of devices are you talking about? usb-keys and such?
[23:38] <Dr_willis_> John117,  i found it all plug and play.
[23:38] <BloodyTux> You're just realizing this John?
[23:38] <vbgunz> edenbeast: yes
[23:38] <niosop> Anyone gotten a (K)ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 machine to join an ADS domain?
[23:38] <John117> dr_willis_ i wish..  from my atheros wirless card to my ati video card.  NOTHING has worked out of the box.
[23:38] <edenbeast> vbgunz then adapting /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi may do the trick
[23:38] <Dr_willis_> Pluged in a scanner today and it saw it right off. no drivers needed at all. same for my 3 printers. :)
[23:38] <edenbeast> vbgunz look for
[23:38] <edenbeast> vbgunz vfat or something, 1 sec
[23:38] <stdin> John117: if you install with no network connection it disabled the network repositories, or it would try to connect to a non-existent network and fail
[23:38] <Dr_willis_> John117,  blame ati , and the wiureless card makers for their lousy linux support.
[23:39] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong so now that I have regenrated a source.list.. should I delete the old one.. and rename and save the new one in /etc/apr/???
[23:39] <Dr_willis_> ati is promising to get better.. but so far.. nothing
[23:39] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: without the . you will see them all. to see that graphically? right mouse clicking on a folder in konqueror should do it on the properties tab
[23:39] <John117> okay.. well the last command is done.. gotta go for now though..  be back later.
[23:39] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: sure you could do that
[23:39] <my> hmm something is wrong with kopete and hotmail accounts
[23:39] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: thanx once more
[23:39] <John117> thanks fo ryour help all!  i'll either learn this ubuntu shit or die trying.
[23:39] <Sanne> John117: linux distros usually don't have the "persuasive" power to make hardware vendors support their platform like a certain other company has.
[23:39] <edenbeast> vbgunz: starting with <match key="volume.fstype" string="vfat">   there you'll have to add something that places it with a specific group  but I don't remember immediately what
[23:39] <vbgunz> edenbeast: thank you for your help
[23:39] <WaltzingAlong> not yet
[23:40] <stdin> *if* people have some patience and ask for help, then the'll get answers
[23:40] <Dr_willis_> heck MS even charges companies to get a 'ms certified badge' :)
[23:40] <niosop> No-one has their (K)Ubuntu machine joined as a member server to an ADS domain?
[23:40] <ubuntu_> has any one here used gentoo?
[23:40] <Dr_willis_> I used gentoo ages ago.
[23:40] <seriekrock> anyone can help me with flash and java, i have 64 bit system
[23:40] <Schuenemann> WaltzingAlong, hmmm, ok... thanks
[23:40] <niosop> ubuntu_ I used to use it all the time
[23:40] <stdin> !flash64
[23:40] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[23:40] <ubuntu_> niosop mat  i im u?
[23:40] <niosop> sure
[23:40] <seriekrock> but im using konqueror
[23:41] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: but that shows one at a time, not sure of a way in kubuntu to get it to show all together. a nice 'all in one' sys info screen seems desirable
[23:41] <stdin> seriekrock: as far as I know, it needs to be firefox to work
[23:42] <bascule> can koqueror use java at all, I have never had it work
[23:42] <carwash^> bas
[23:42] <carwash^> should work
[23:42] <carwash^> set java path inpreferences
[23:42] <dvayanu> To continue, type the phrase "I am aware that this is a very bad idea":
[23:42] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: sure the trick for me has been to specify the location of java (like opera needs)
[23:42] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong I cant delet that file.. it sais that I dont have access to do that
[23:42] <dvayanu> The following ESSENTIAL packages will be REMOVED! util-linux
[23:42] <dvayanu> i'm scared now
[23:43] <BrightEyes`> what does "The mount point '/media/hda3' is already occupied" mean?
[23:43] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: ok, which java the output of that?
[23:43] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: alright edit it, replacing the entire contents with the sources from source-o-matic                   to open it again, alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:44] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: so the decision is?? drumroll? what were you doing that asked to remove that package?
[23:44] <dvayanu> install linux32
[23:44] <IkeKrull> anyone know how i disable dolphin, and just use konqueror for filesystem urls on kubuntu 7.10?
[23:44] <dvayanu> from the flash in firefox on amd64 article
[23:44] <vbgunz> I need a little help on making devices read only for my son. I am a bit lost :(
[23:44] <WaltzingAlong> IkeKrull: yes
[23:44] <aspirin_on_kubun> how i set the command nvidia-settings --load-config-only" at startup of kde
[23:45] <andreas> BrightEyes`: apparently, there is already somethin mounted at thes place. Where do you get this message?
[23:45] <IkeKrull> WaltzingAlong: would you be willing to share this information?
[23:45] <WaltzingAlong> IkeKrull: http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but with konqueror instead of dolphin
[23:45] <Oakbox> BrightEyes`: i think it means that you have something mounted to /media/hda3 already...
[23:45] <IkeKrull> ah right, cool
[23:45] <IkeKrull> thanks
[23:46] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: it stil don't work.. it wont change the content
[23:46] <carwash^> any eta on a kopete-fix?
[23:46] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: it worked, I have konqueror java :)/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[23:46] <bascule> dunni why i pasted that total mistake ...
[23:46] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: :D
[23:46] <BrightEyes`> andreas: in the /media/ folder
[23:47] <vbgunz> be right back, I think I may have fixed the issue but only really see when I reboot
[23:47] <Oakbox> if i install compiz and something goes wrong is there and easy way to get rid of it again... only last time i tried i ended up reinstalling
[23:48] <Oakbox> carwash^: what kopete-fix?
[23:48] <carwash^> Oakbox: it crashes on connection to msn
[23:48] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)
[23:49] <Oakbox> carwash^: WaltzingAlong is too quick for me again
[23:49] <carwash^> :P shipping 7.10 with this bug is huge :(
[23:49] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong now it works.. the name wasn't sourse.. it was sourses.. so now it worked :P thanks fo the help :P  while I am on it.. what does kate do?
[23:50] <bascule> edits texy
[23:50] <bascule> text
[23:50] <bascule> tex
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  compiz should be rather easy to disable.
[23:50] <andreas> vbgunz: if they are whole partitions, you can mount them with ro (read only) in /etc/fstab (instead of defult), otherwise, chown the whole thing to root and chmod -R 71
[23:50] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: kate is a (line) text editor
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[23:51] <andreas> vbgunz: aä, chmod -R 744 ./* in the base directory
[23:51] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  thers a setting file you can make that will stop it from running also. (i forget where that is however) :)
[23:51] <BrightEyes`> im asking questions all day and noone helped me
[23:51] <niosop> Anyone been able to join ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 as an ADS member server using net ads join and not net rpc join?
[23:51] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong okej... big thanks for the help.. only one more thing that I have a problem with.. my wireless keps diable itsel.. can I stop that somehow?
[23:52] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: ta for that, i just dont know if i should attempt it again :D
[23:52] <tysonsw> disable*
[23:52] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: should be able to do so. check !wifi to see about configuring it
[23:52] <andreas> BrightEyes`: console at sudo mount? If yes, i assume the spot is already occupied
[23:52] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  how it stands now. To enable compiz with kde. you must make an 'Autostart' entry for it.
[23:52] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  or manually start it.
[23:53] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong does not work..
[23:53] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | tysonsw
[23:53] <ubotu> tysonsw: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:53] <BrightEyes`> andreas: i want to configure my grub to boot windows.i was using kubuntu for 6 months now and i decided to install windows again.i installed it then somehow installed grub again but there were no entries for windows.what can i do
[23:53] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: sorry not that savy whats an Autostart :S
[23:53] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  .kde/Autostart
[23:53] <WaltzingAlong> Oakbox: ~/.kde/Autostart
[23:53] <Oakbox> thank will have a look :)
[23:53] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  just a directory of commands/scripts that get ran at login
[23:54] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  proberly better to just manually start compiz Untill you decide if you like it
[23:54] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | BrightEyes`
[23:54] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:54] <NickPresta> Oakbox: alternately, you can install compiz-fusion-icon and symlink that to ~/.kde/Autostart. That will start up the system tray icon which allows you to switch decorators, etc
[23:54] <BrightEyes`> WaltzingAlong: i tried that thing with the live cd. IT DOESNT WORK!
[23:54] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  if your windows install was on hda1 (first HD, first partition) therens an example grub menu entry commented out in the menu.lst you can just uncomment it.
[23:54] <Oakbox> aah too much to take in hehe.
[23:55] <BrightEyes`> WaltzingAlong: how many times should i try those things
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> !info compiz-fusion-icon
[23:55] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion-icon does not exist in gutsy
[23:55] <Linux_Galore> anyone got the link for the CD cover artwork for Kubuntu Gutsy, Im running of a batch of CD/DVD's
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> !find fusion
[23:55] <pillowpants> how has gutsy been coming along
[23:55] <ubotu> Found: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-plugins-main, libfusionsound-0.9-25, libfusionsound-dev, libfusionsound-doc
[23:55] <BrightEyes`> Dr_willis_:  windows is on hda3 (hd0,2)
[23:55] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: ask google 'boot to windows from grub' or something similar
[23:55] <pillowpants> is it more or less safe to upgrade?
[23:55] <pillowpants> has the dust settled?
[23:55] <werty> hi there...
[23:56] <Linux_Galore> the local update server here in AU are still very sluggish
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  then uncomment the example and change that  hd0,0 to be hd0,2 HOWEVER - windows may not like not being on the drive
[23:56] <werty> how can i download IPTraf?
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  ive had issues with windows when its not on the first partition.
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> !find iptraf
[23:56] <ubotu> Found: iptraf
[23:56] <NickPresta> Dr_willis_: I believe I got CF-icon from getdeb.com or from the forums.
[23:56] <andreas> BrightEyes`: then you dont have to mount yout windows partition but have to edit grub.conf. See links given by others.
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> !info iptraf
[23:56] <ubotu> iptraf: Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0-4 (gutsy), package size 162 kB, installed size 744 kB
[23:56] <Linux_Galore> !artwork
[23:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:56] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: but you can use grub to fake windows into thinking it is the first partition on the first drive
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> werty,  fire up the package manager and install it? :)
[23:57] <BrightEyes`> WaltzingAlong: how can i do that
[23:57] <sdlnxgk> anyone using KDE 3.5 ???
[23:57] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: ask google 'boot to windows from grub' or something similar
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> WaltzingAlong,  can you swap partitions that way? or just Drives.. :)  i forget - had to do that ages ago.. so i make SURE i dont have to any more
[23:57] <poty> how can I configure my widescreen monitor on Kubuntu 7.04 feisty ¿?
[23:57] <poty> how can I configure my widescreen monitor on Kubuntu 7.04 feisty ¿?
[23:57] <sdlnxgk> how do you view sysinfo in Konqueror??
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> !fixres
[23:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:58] <sdlnxgk> poty I use a program called envy and works awesome for my 24" wide screen running SLI mode
[23:58] <Tm_T> sdlnxgk: sysinfo:/ ?
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[23:58] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[23:58] <Dr_willis_> envy is a bad idea....
[23:58] <sdlnxgk> Tm_T, I tried that but says malformed url
[23:58] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: thanks
[23:58] <BrightEyes`> how can i remove the boot loader from MBR ?
[23:58] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis,  why is envy a bad idea??
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: NP :)
[23:59] <poty> why a bad idea ¿?
[23:59] <Tm_T> sdlnxgk: then something else :p
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> sdlnxgk,  like the bot said.. it can break your system badly
[23:59] <WaltzingAlong> no it has to do with chainloading and hiding others
[23:59] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, if you use the wrong version yes I can see that
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> sdlnxgk,  had to fix a guys sytem at work the other day when he used envy
[23:59] <sdlnxgk> never have  a problem running it
[23:59] <poty> anybody a link to a  envy donwload
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> then he ended up doing a clean install..
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> sdlnxgk,  you are in the minority then.
[23:59] <Linux_Galore> grrr cant seem to find the Kubuntu 7.10 artwork