[05:15] <Odd-rationale> prohna: Here's some good tips on setting up a cool compiz config: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion
[05:15] <thinman1189> wease|: yes but it doesn't stop me from hating it
[05:16] <prohna> how do i zoom out?
[05:16] <prohna> is that possible?
[05:16] <wease|> thinman1189, we all hate the beast...that is why we look to the wiki!
[05:16] <Odd-rationale> prohna: Have you enabled Cube Reflection?
[05:17] <TrichomeKid> I had some card come with my motherboard that has an S-Video out and VGA out..  My TV will output the bootup text but won't get past the Ubuntu progress bar..  anyone know why?
[05:17] <prohna> not yet
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> prohna: Try
[05:17] <prohna> Odd-rationale: this laptop is pretty old im surprised alot of this working so im taking it slow
[05:18] <prohna> Odd-rationale: yup working
[05:18]  * prohna is amused
[05:18] <wease|> i just go with super E
[05:18] <wease|> beats installing those cheesy 3d things
[05:19]  * bibby afk
[05:19] <Housefly7k> my compiz doesnt work, although Beryl worked on Fiesty, after installing gutsy it just would not work tried everything possible
[05:19] <codename> need some help getting a Dapper theme in 7.10
[05:19] <prohna> Housefly7k: thats weird cause i had the exact opposite problem lol
[05:20] <prohna> beryl wouldnt work but compiz is
[05:20] <livefoniks> Compiz is a bit lighter.
[05:20] <wease|> super E is even lighter!
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> !beryl
[05:20] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:20] <wease|> it requires no software
[05:20] <wease|> :P
[05:21] <Housefly7k> Dell inspiron  8500 laptop
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> wease|: Super E? Link?
[05:21] <Housefly7k> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01)
[05:21] <wease|> no *additional* software
[05:21] <Housefly7k> !compiz
[05:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:21] <livefoniks> Rampentampen.
[05:21] <wease|> odd-rationale - windows button + E
[05:21] <wease|> its good enough eye candy for me
[05:21] <Housefly7k> some people claimed it worked for them using the same video card, but i have had no luck following countless guides and how-tos
[05:21] <nickrud> ah, expo . that is almost enough by itself to use compiz
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> wease|: A gnome thing?
[05:22] <Housefly7k> wease|: what is Super E?
[05:22] <nickrud> ccsm, enable the expo plugin.
[05:22] <prohna> Housefly7k: what does it do? can you enable any compiz effects?
[05:22] <Survivorman> windows key and e
[05:23] <wease|> odd-rationale, AFAIK it is a gnome thing
[05:23] <wease|> housefly7k, windows button + e
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> wease|: OK. Didn't do anything on my KDE...
[05:24] <wease|> im not big on the compiz, beryl thing
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> wease|: Me neither
[05:24] <Housefly7k> prohna: no, none if i try from the System -> pref -> Appearance to enable Visual effects
[05:24] <livefoniks> Expo doesn't work without Compiz.
[05:24] <nickrud> wease|: windows-e, that's expo in compiz :  the desktops all in a row, able to drag windows around?
[05:24] <Housefly7k> prohna:  then it doesnt work it just says it was not able to switch or something like that, wait let me try
[05:24] <wease|> nickrud, i dont run compiz
[05:25] <nickrud> wease|: ah, so it's that minimal effect: nothing :)
[05:25] <CVD-PR> how to make my new home the default? or ubuntu know that automatically?
[05:25] <nickrud> wease|: I don't run compiz either
[05:25] <prohna> Housefly7k: install the compiz config manager
[05:25] <Bulwinkle> yeah, songbird has a LOOOOONG way to go
[05:25] <wease|> nickrud, it shows a nice display with water reflection
[05:25] <nickrud> CVD-PR: if you mount it in /etc/fstab, /home/you is /home/you
[05:26] <Bulwinkle> it is basically iTunes made over
[05:26] <Housefly7k> prohna: "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[05:26] <wease|> its prettier than alt-tab
[05:26] <nickrud> wease|: hm. Not in any gnome I've used. How'ed you set it up?
[05:26] <rex> Who can speak Chinese~~~~please help me~
[05:26] <CVD-PR> nickrud, i have to put /home/me, not just /home?
[05:27] <nickrud> CVD-PR: /home for the mount point
[05:27] <CVD-PR> o ok
[05:27] <wease|> nickrud, i went from preinstall 7.10 to stable 7.10 and that is what i got
[05:27] <faileas> !cn > rex
[05:27] <Housefly7k> prohna: installing now
[05:27] <nickrud> CVD-PR:  assuming you're doing the standard
[05:27] <faileas> or was that pipe...
[05:27] <Housefly7k> prohna: although i have pretty much given up hope
[05:27] <nickrud> wease|: bet you're running compiz & don't even know it :)
[05:28] <Housefly7k> prohna: installed ccsm
[05:28] <prohna> k
 !cn > rex   //////what
[05:28] <prohna> then see if advanced desktop effects is in there
[05:28] <emmajane> I want to look at the channel's warning text for language... I'm not sure how to send it only to myself though. Does anyone know?
[05:29] <prohna> Odd-rationale: the focus window effect is rad too
[05:29] <rex> can you speak Chinese
[05:29] <nickrud> !cn | rex  (chinese spoken there):
[05:29] <ubotu> rex  (chinese spoken there):: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[05:29] <rex> ok
[05:29] <faileas> rex: no but i think there's a chinese channel. i made a mistake with the command
[05:29] <rex> thank you
[05:29] <wease|> nickrud, only if it defaulted to it when i installed the nvidia drivers...during the aplha and beta i installed compiz and beryl and had a blast but when i was forced to install the stable i just let it install and never added to it as far as the gui went
[05:29] <emmajane> !language | emmajane
[05:29] <nickrud> wease|: ps -A | grep compiz
[05:29] <astro76> emmajane: /msg ubotu whatever
[05:30] <emmajane> astro76: thanks.
[05:30] <rex> oh~~~~~thank you
[05:30] <wease|> aha
[05:30]  * wease| shakes a finger
[05:30] <wease|> it must have installed by default
[05:30] <Housefly7k> prohna: but what would installing ccsm help if the basic desktop effects wont work?
[05:31] <emmajane> astro76: Hrm. it doesn't seem to send me the warning text when I do /msg ubotu !language
[05:31] <LinuxID10T> hello
[05:31] <prohna> Housefly7k: idk worth a shot
[05:31] <wease|> cuz i never saw it running nor do i have the ability to adjust it in the usual place (system)
[05:31] <Odd-rationale> emmajane: Try without !
[05:31] <prohna> Housefly7k: mine acted wacky till i got it working
[05:32] <emmajane> LinuxID10T: hey :) I'm happy to help out. But I find "IDIOT" screamed at me sort of offencive. Can you pick a new nickname? Thanks!
[05:32] <prohna> Housefly7k: especially switching that setting yer trying to change would lock me up for 15+ seconds sometimes
[05:32] <emmajane> Odd-rationale: tried that first...
[05:32] <wease|> nickrud, interesting it is there and i never manually installed it
[05:32] <bra1> I want to install Ubuntu on a laptop drive
[05:32] <LinuxID10T> Sorry about the nickname I have used it in forums for at least 8 years
[05:33] <emmajane> Um.
[05:33] <faileas> bra1: external or in a laptop?
[05:33] <brad01> external
[05:33] <nickrud> wease|: it's a default install in gutsy, I think it's enabled by default for some nvidia cards
[05:33] <Odd-rationale> emmajane: Hmm. Are you !registered?
[05:33] <emmajane> Odd-rationale: my nick is registered, yes.
[05:33] <kavoor> Hello, Is it true that Hardy will not feature a new theme and a new makeover is scheduled for Hardy +1 ??
[05:34] <brad01> I have an adapter to hook it up and the ubuntu live cd see's it
[05:34] <emmajane> Does that mean I'm supposed to not find it offensive, LinuxID10T? I'm confused.
[05:34] <nickrud> kavoor: I've seen a link to a new desktop background somewhere ...
[05:34] <Flannel> kavoor: #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <Housefly7k> prohna: so now that ccsm is installed...should i disable all the effects and try enabling some? is that what you suggest....and what effects should i try first?
[05:34] <wease|> nickrud, thats why i was thinkin it may have been done by me installing the drivers but the standard compiz button is nonexistent
[05:34] <Housefly7k> !compiz
[05:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:34] <brad01> but when I try to install it it either has an error or when I connect it to the laptop it won't boot from it
[05:34] <wease|> so i guess i never thought much about it
[05:34] <nickrud> wease|: system->prefs->appearance, effects tab
[05:35] <kavoor> Flannel: OK sorry
[05:35] <prohna> Odd-rationale: where do i go to set the cube to be hollow?
[05:35] <prohna> Housefly7k: does it let you open ccsm?
[05:35] <wease|> nickrud, not the same as a compiz tab in the pre-release
[05:35] <Newbuntu2> If I want to stream video (using VLC) can I use a <IP_ADDRESS> (multicast reserved) address? This is all within a private (home) network; but I I'm not sure a 192.168 address would work for multicast
[05:36] <Odd-rationale> prohna: Go to Desktop Cube --> Transparent Cube and adjust the transparnecy durin rotation
[05:36] <Housefly7k> prohna: yeah
[05:36] <prohna> Housefly7k: try some of them then
[05:36] <prohna> see what happens
[05:36] <devrethman> How do I get on a wireless network with WPA encryption?
[05:36] <devrethman> it's not one of the options on the thingy
[05:36] <Rael> I'm trying various lite window managers...I'm in icewm which seems to be running fine but now my mp3s sometimes skip, its like the mp3 player is not given as much cpu priority in icewm
[05:36] <devrethman> when you try to connect
[05:36] <nickrud> emmajane: there was no reason to chase him off
[05:37] <Housefly7k> prohna: but the desktop effects are not enabled...i am not sure i understand
[05:37] <emmajane> nickrud: I didn't. It was a valid question.
[05:37] <emmajane> nickrud: I honestly didn't understand the response. :/
[05:37] <nickrud> so ignore him.
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> prohna: Did that suit you?
[05:38] <emmajane> nickrud: I thought it was like a conversation where we each had a turn.
[05:39] <dareii> anyone know how i can get my clock to show regular time instead of UTC
[05:39] <nickrud> emmajane: seems to me that you were picking an argument.
[05:40] <Bossmanbeta> dareii, just rt click the clock
[05:40] <Housefly7k> the !compiz suggested #compiz-fusion but the channel is empty...is that right or its just not a busy channel?
[05:40] <lamalex> Can anyone here help me trouble shoot key based SSH authentication?
[05:40] <dareii> i did there's no option for it in the window
[05:40] <Bossmanbeta> go to preferences...........
[05:41] <lamalex> for some reason I can't get it working
[05:41] <dareii> did that too - i'm using latest updates on  hardy
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: There is about 180 peeps in #compiz-fusion
[05:41] <Bossmanbeta> oh hardy
[05:41] <Bossmanbeta> well it should work on hardy also... but I'm running gutsy
[05:42] <wease|> bring on hardy!
[05:42] <dareii> the gui in the preferences has changed and no utc option
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | dareii
[05:42] <ubotu> dareii: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:42] <wease|> i loved testing out gutsy in prerelease mode
[05:42] <Z_o-s-o> what do you guys think about Hardy so far
[05:43] <wease|> i wanna do the same with hardy
[05:43] <Housefly7k> Odd-rationale: thanks i just realised i connected to it on a different server... sorry for the inconvinience new to irssi
[05:43] <dareii> so far hardy rules it's the only ubuntu i can get to boot on my laptop
[05:43] <Lartza_> what is ide?
[05:43] <wease|> i havent installed hardy yet as it is unavailable for me as of right now
[05:43] <brad01> darelli, what laptop?
[05:44] <dareii> acer aspire 5520
[05:44] <wease|> IDE = integrated drive electronics
[05:44] <wease|> duh
[05:44] <Lartza_> what it does?
[05:44] <dareii> the only other distro i can get to work on it is opensuse 11.0
[05:44] <wease|> IDE makes your computer have an extended brain
[05:44] <wease|> so to speak
[05:45] <Lartza_> ok
[05:45] <wease|> IDE is the friggin hard drive
[05:46] <Lartza_> so my hardrive spins if ide0 or ide1 shows on powertop
[05:47] <wease|> your drive will spin until it finds a point that the software finds a start
[05:47] <simplyubuntu> has anyone seen the optimus maximus?!?! its amazing! http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
[05:47] <frost0> can someone point me in the direction of a linux version of free allegiance?
[05:47] <frost0> i know there is a version..
[05:47] <wease|> optimus maximus is schweet
[05:47] <frost0> but, i can't find it :(
[05:48] <Lartza_> well i have powertop and it constantly show me ide1 so i was wondering what it was
[05:48] <wease|> but it isnt linux firnedly and is a very expensive piece
[05:48] <wease|> *friendly
[05:48] <simplyubuntu> wease| it isnt?
[05:48] <simplyubuntu> thats what i was hoping to figure out :P
[05:48] <simplyubuntu> so much for that!
[05:48] <wease|> simplyubuntu, it is for windows and mac as of now
[05:48] <Lartza_> why doesnt linux run well on laptops?
[05:49] <dunia> wease|, it's very very expensive for me
[05:49] <Z_o-s-o> it depends on the laptop
[05:49] <wease|> but it is too much eye candy and for so much money
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> Lartza_: Runs just fine on my tablet.
[05:49] <Lartza_> well yea, but linux runs almost in any desktop computer, but number of laptops arent supported
[05:49] <Housefly7k> Lartza_: I had mixed experiences with that, and it runs great on some
[05:49] <wease|> dunia, some schmuck bought it on ebay for 2750 bucks
[05:49] <simplyubuntu> its 400 dollars...
[05:49] <simplyubuntu> pretty expensive
[05:50] <Lartza_> wow 371euros!
[05:50] <Housefly7k> Toshiba a100 and a900 it worked beautifully... everything just did
[05:50] <Lartza_> for keyboard!!!
[05:50] <faileas> o0
[05:50] <wease|> keyboard is not something i would consider spending tons of money
[05:50] <simplyubuntu> does anyone know if ubuntu works with those new colurful dell notebooks?? :P
[05:50] <Lartza_> me neither
[05:50] <Lartza_> what model?
[05:51] <Odd-rationale> simplyubuntu: You mean the xps?
[05:51] <wease|> dell actually offers the latest xps with ubuntu 7.10
[05:51] <Lartza_> :D
[05:51] <simplyubuntu> yep thats what i mean
[05:51] <wease|> they start at just under 1 grand
[05:51] <wease|> very schweet setup
[05:51] <simplyubuntu> really wease|?
[05:51] <wease|> yesh
[05:51] <simplyubuntu> my mom was thinking of buying one
[05:51] <wease|> ill give you a link
[05:51] <simplyubuntu> just checking out
[05:51] <wease|> brb to find it
[05:51] <simplyubuntu> thanks :)
[05:52] <Lartza_> 999$
[05:52] <Lartza_> XPSTM  M1330
[05:52] <Lartza_> XPS  M1330
[05:52] <Z_o-s-o> id rather get a macbook pro
[05:52] <Lartza_> i love mac and linux
[05:52] <Z_o-s-o> yup
[05:52] <Lartza_> they beat windows anytime
[05:53] <Z_o-s-o> i have an HP right now and I like it alot....specially with Gutsy
[05:53] <Z_o-s-o> Vista sucked
[05:53] <Lartza_> except mac costs, but its still good
[05:53] <Lartza_> Vista REALLY sucks
[05:53] <Lartza_> xp is ok in emergy situation
[05:53] <Lartza_> for playing commercial games etc.
[05:53] <wease|> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DYCWTU1&s=dhs
[05:53] <Z_o-s-o> the problem with laptops and Ubuntu so far is that laptop makers like to add lots of hokey buttons a features that you really dont need
[05:53] <wease|> there you go
[05:53] <simplyubuntu> thanks wease|
[05:54] <wease|> anytime
[05:54] <Lartza_> Zoso: so then they just wont work? or whole system doesnt work?
[05:54] <Z_o-s-o> no...it takes more work to get the little things to work correctly
[05:55] <Z_o-s-o> sony is notorious for adding unnecessary junk to the Vaio laptops
[05:55] <Lartza_> ok, i wouldnt need those
[05:55] <simplyubuntu> wease| isnt there a red one too?
[05:55] <Housefly7k> anywhere else i can go for compiz help, #compiz-fusion is full of very silent ppl :)
[05:55] <icesword> !minimal
[05:55] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:55] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: Make a lot of noise! :P
[05:55] <Lilacor> 'ello
[05:55] <latinoguy> help with cairo-dock
[05:55] <latinoguy> i can not see it
[05:56] <wease|> simplyubuntu, you can customize it
[05:56] <Lartza_> wow, http://www.geekabout.com/2008-02-19-479/40-most-disastrous-cable-messes.html
[05:57] <wease|> brb
[05:57] <latinoguy> plase help with cairo-dock
[05:58] <Lilacor> What is a simple system information application I can have always running on my desktop?
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> Lilacor: conky
[05:58] <Lartza_> Lilacor: what it needs to do? show cpu usage?
[05:59] <Lilacor> cpu, memory, network, i/o...etc
[05:59] <Deep_Ocean> ssl
[05:59] <Odd-rationale> Lilacor: or grekm (sp?)
[05:59] <Lartza_> there is one applet to the panel
[06:00] <Lilacor> I mean one that updates and is almost like part of the background graphic.. . . .
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> Lilacor: Then use conky
[06:00] <Lartza_> i dont know then
[06:00] <Lilacor> oh cool that's exactly what I was looking for :D
[06:00] <Lilacor> thanks folks
[06:02] <Housefly7k> my fan is also constantly running on a Dell inspiron 8500...
[06:02] <Housefly7k> constantly ... i tune it out but if i can find a way for it to work properly i wouldnt mind
[06:03] <aurum> Hey, I just installed on an external HD but my BIOS doesn't give me the option to boot from a USB drive, even though it seems to recognize it before the actual boot... anyone know how I can make it happen?   It doesn't look too hard to do actually.
[06:05] <simplyubuntu> Lilacor, why?
[06:05] <fredmv> simplyubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:05] <Lilacor> simplyubuntu: I think it'd be interesting to see...that's all
[06:06] <icesword> ubuntu phone?that is interseting
[06:06] <icesword> !
[06:06] <simplyubuntu> fredmv ive seen them too... have even transferred music wirelessly. i was, however, wondering, if i could transfer music with a cable, wireless b is pretty slow (10 secs per song)
[06:06] <fredmv> should work fine via USB
[06:07] <simplyubuntu> how fredmv? mount it at media/ipod and let banshee see it?
[06:07] <presto_> wow...that's a lot of people
[06:07] <fredmv> simplyubuntu, I've done something similar with my iRiver.
[06:07] <fredmv> Was a pain, but I eventually got it to work.
[06:07] <fredmv> Not too familar with Apple stuff though.
[06:08] <fredmv> There seems to be plenty of docs available though.
[06:08] <simplyubuntu> i see... what about syncing contacs etc
[06:08] <fredmv> take a look at gtkpod
[06:08] <fredmv> Very solid app.
[06:08] <simplyubuntu> fredmv that doc you just linked was the only one ive been able to find!
[06:08] <fredmv> Have you taken a look at gtkpod?
[06:08] <simplyubuntu> i know about gtkpod, but it doesnt offer the library support that banshee does... at least for me
[06:08] <CVD-PR> nickrud, command to view the UUID's
[06:09] <nickrud> CVD-PR: blkid
[06:09] <fredmv> Audacity might also be an option.
[06:09] <fredmv> I wish I could help further but I never really bought into the Apple thing.
[06:10] <Jewsus_> Is it normal for both xgl and xorg to be running at the same time
[06:10] <simplyubuntu> thanks anyway fredmv
[06:10] <fredmv> No prob man.
[06:10] <cjae> hey is this going to work with nvidia 5500 and 7.10 ??
[06:11] <cjae> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[06:11] <fredmv> I'm sure you've taken a look at ubuntuforums?
[06:11] <pawan_> what is kde 4
[06:12] <cjae> not sure what changes have been made to the new nvidia driver
[06:12] <Odd-rationale> !kde4 | pawan_
[06:12] <ubotu> pawan_: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[06:12] <pawan_> how to upgrade gutsy to kde 4
[06:13] <Odd-rationale> pawan_: See the first link
[06:13] <cjae> used to work fine under edgy with this card but the auto detect capabilities of nvidia driver didn't go over so well this time through
[06:13] <cjae> plus I don't like xineramam
[06:13] <cjae> -m
[06:14] <cjae> or twinview
[06:18] <icesword> nickrud, i am woking on mini ubuntu 6.06 now
[06:19] <nickrud> icesword: cool. What do you plan on adding to it?
[06:19] <icesword> nickrud, gnome,mac4lin,haha
[06:20] <nickrud> icesword: sounds big ;P
[06:20] <icesword> nickrud, you said big,why,i will give up open office sort of thing ,too big
[06:21] <nickrud> icesword: gnome, one of the biggest things in the repo :O Anyway, off to eat. See you later
[06:21] <icesword> nickrud, yeah
[06:23] <cwillu> is there a config option to make dpkg always run niced?
[06:23] <CVD-PR> how to remove a non-empty directory?
[06:23] <cwillu> CVD-PR, rm -r /dir/name
[06:23] <cwillu> CVD-PR, but be careful with that
[06:24] <ac1d> hey?
[06:24] <cwillu> CVD-PR, or just use nautilus, although currently that won't help much if it's a system folder (in which case, be super careful with anything resembling sudo rm -r /path/to/folder)
[06:24] <ac1d> need some help
[06:24] <cwillu> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:24] <ac1d> how do i set up a network card?
[06:24] <ac1d> i mean as in network settings thro the command line?
[06:25] <ac1d> ?
[06:25] <cwillu> ac1d, /etc/network/interfaces holds most of the settings
[06:25] <ac1d> how do i edit it thro the CLI... bit of a newb here
[06:25] <cwillu> changing it to pretty much anything by hand will disable network manager though
[06:25] <speeddemon8803> gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:25] <cwillu> ac1d, you can also run ifconfig ... and related commands to directly change the current settings
[06:25] <ac1d> im trying to set up an ubuntu server here, just very new to it all and learning
[06:26] <Neutralise> try rm -rf *
[06:26] <cwillu> ac1d, dhclient eth0 will use dhcp to configur eth0, for instance
[06:26] <ac1d> i want to configure it statically because i want to be able to SSH into it
[06:26] <cwillu> ac1d, I usually use static dhcp still
[06:26] <ac1d> other question, how do i page up in CLI? lol
[06:26] <cwillu> shift+pageup
[06:26] <ac1d> thanks
[06:26] <Rael> anyone know how to turn off opening things with a single click...its driving me crazy and I want to go back to doubleclicking
[06:26] <speeddemon8803> I am going to say this once and once only...NEVER tell a user to rm -rf * as root or even as a regular user.....
[06:27] <devrethman> Does wireless lan assistant thingy not support WPA or am I stupid?
[06:27] <speeddemon8803> Not even as a joke!
[06:27] <cwillu> devrethman, depends on the chipset, some of them have issues with dpa
[06:27] <wobblywu> what happened to ubuntu bounties?
[06:27] <cwillu> wpa rather
[06:27] <ac1d> so i would set up a network card statically by...
[06:27] <zoredache> is it possible to target a workspace when starting an application?
[06:27] <ac1d> ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:27] <astro76> zoredache: devilspie
[06:27] <devrethman> cwillyu: I've got an oldish laptop, so if it's not on the dropdown thing it means I can't do it?
[06:28] <cwillu> ac1d, look at 'man interfaces'
[06:28] <presto_> yeah...speeddemon he thought he was clever
[06:28] <astro76> !devilspie | zoredache
[06:28] <ubotu> zoredache: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[06:28] <cwillu> devrethman, do you know what chipset you have?
[06:28] <devrethman> cwillu: nope
[06:28] <zoredache> ah, thanks
[06:28] <devrethman> how do i check
[06:28] <devrethman> would lspci show it?
[06:29] <cwillu> devrethman, yep, although it's a somewhat chicken and egg problem that way :p
[06:29] <ac1d> so how would i set up the settings on a network card (eth0) statically?
[06:29] <cwillu> devrethman, lspci|grep -i wlan might do something
[06:29] <cwillu> ac1d, type 'man interfacse
[06:29] <cwillu> bah
[06:29] <cwillu> 'man interfaces'
[06:29] <cwillu> read that
[06:29] <devrethman> nothing
[06:29] <cwillu> devrethman, try 802
[06:29] <cwillu> (instead of wlan)
[06:30] <devrethman> no
[06:30] <devrethman> i just read the list, nothing looks like wireless
[06:30] <Rael> anyone know how to turn off opening things with a single click...its driving me crazy and I want to go back to doubleclicking
[06:30] <ac1d> oaky i really do need some linux help
[06:30] <ac1d> how do i quit out of man pages now?
[06:30] <cwillu> ac1d, q
[06:30] <loslalfos> "q"
[06:30] <ac1d> thanks
[06:30] <cwk_basket> aaaaaaaaaaa
[06:30] <ac1d> can u set up a network card by using ifconfig
[06:31] <ac1d> i dont know how to edit text files using the CLI
[06:31] <cwillu> ac1d, only temporarily (i.e., till the next reboot)
[06:31] <Odd-rationale> devrethman: lspci | grep Net ?
[06:31] <loslalfos> (actually, it depends on thze pager you are using ;) )
[06:31] <cwillu> ac1d, sudo nano /path/to/file
[06:31] <cwillu> loslalfos, safe assumption that a cli newbie won't have customized the pager :p
[06:31] <devrethman> intel 82801 ethernet controller
[06:31] <DiploCat> ac1d, if you are using gnome, you can do it through the GUI... System > Administration > Network
[06:31] <ac1d> okay
[06:31] <ac1d> im in Nnano
[06:32] <ac1d> nano...
[06:32] <loslalfos> cwillu: that's why i put a smiley... ;)
[06:32] <devrethman> It's just the hardwire one though
[06:32] <ac1d> now how do i change stuff? lol
[06:32] <ac1d> i need to be shown once then ill remember how to do it for next time
[06:32] <cwillu> !nano
[06:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[06:32] <rikkimaru_> When I open alsamixer, and try to increase  Front Mic and Mic Boost on the capture tab, it resets when i open alsamixer again
[06:32] <cwillu> bah
[06:32] <cwillu> ac1d, nano is pretty self explanatory
[06:32] <cwillu> ac1d, if I was mean, I'd point you at vim :p
[06:32] <speeddemon8803> Are there any op's around?
[06:32] <Odd-rationale> devrethman: What wireless do you have?
[06:32] <ac1d> how do i open the file then?
[06:33] <devrethman> wireless in a Toshiba sattelite 5105
[06:33] <cwillu> devrethman, I think that's the wired card
[06:33] <devrethman> I do to
[06:33] <devrethman> *too
[06:33] <ac1d> i did the whole sudo nano etc/network/interface and its got nothing
[06:33] <cwillu> devrethman, try lsmod|grep bc
[06:33] <cwillu> ac1d, /etc, not just etc?
[06:33] <devrethman> mbcache and usbcore
[06:33] <devrethman> not wireless
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> devrethman: You're trying to find your chipset, then?
[06:33] <DiploCat> etc/network/interfaces -- with an s on the end
[06:33] <cwillu> Odd-rationale, yes
[06:33] <bazhang> speeddemon8803: what is the issue?
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> k
[06:34] <ac1d> thanks
[06:34] <ac1d> dw im closer :p
[06:34] <devrethman> odd-rationale: WPA doesn't show up on the dropdown
[06:34] <speeddemon8803> may i private message you bazhang?
[06:34] <devrethman> supposedly some chipsets fdon't support
[06:34] <bazhang> sure
[06:34] <devrethman> it
[06:34] <GSF1200S> For anyone new in here: DO NOT do sudo rm -rf anytime anywhere until you know EXACTLY what it does
[06:34] <devrethman> so I'm trying to figure out if I have one of them
[06:34] <loslalfos> cwillu: actually, i wasn't just putting a smiley in for the people "in the know". i think i wanted to hint that there's more to know. anyhow... :)
[06:34] <bazhang> speeddemon8803: sure
[06:35] <GSF1200S> it DELETES EVERYTHING!
[06:35] <Rael> anyone know how to turn off opening things with a single click...its driving me crazy and I want to go back to doubleclicking
[06:35] <GSF1200S> gnome?
[06:35] <cwillu> Rael, there might be an option in the prefs somewhere, you can do it from gconf-editor as well
[06:35] <cwillu> Rael, open a file browser, go to edit|preferences | behavious, and change double to single
[06:36] <DiploCat> GSF1200S, sudo rm -rf will do nothing... if you put a / at the end though..
[06:36] <GSF1200S> well yeah, thats what I mean- we had a troll in here who wrote that down
[06:37] <icesword> rm -rf / em,that is a good command
[06:37] <DiploCat> oh
[06:37] <ac1d> okay so im typing sudo rm -rf /
[06:37] <ac1d> kool
[06:37] <ac1d> thanks guys for all ur help
[06:37] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> ...
[06:37] <GSF1200S> wtf?
[06:37] <GSF1200S> is this channel mad?
[06:37] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> hahaha
[06:37] <icesword> hehehe
[06:37] <DiploCat> ahh
[06:38] <Rael> cwillu thanks I checked there but double click is already enabled...this was happening in windows too...maybe its the mouse
[06:38] <bazhang> ac1d dont do it
[06:38] <GSF1200S> hes gone already
[06:38] <GSF1200S> and sadly
[06:38] <GSF1200S> I think he was "joking"
[06:38]  * speeddemon8803 sits here still steaming
[06:38] <icesword> what if i setup miniubuntu to my disk,what os i will gain
[06:38] <DiploCat> he must have been joking (?)
[06:39] <GSF1200S> this is not funny
[06:39] <cwillu> can we just kick everyone who's suggested that command in the last 5 minutes?
[06:39] <GSF1200S> what if there is a curious new user in here and he deletes his home folder or worse?
[06:39] <icesword> !repo
[06:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:39] <bazhang> not a bad idea cwillu
[06:39] <Rubin> !restricted
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <speeddemon8803> guys, rm -rf is NOT a command you want to do unless you absolutely know what the heck your doing!  I opened it up and I got a message saying to download an update. Then when I went to reopen it gave me the option again, this time a window popped up in the corner saying it had shutdown wrong. Now whenever I open it it closes within 2 seconds of showing the main screen. The update seemed weird because it mentioned OSX but I wasn't sure.
[06:41] <presto_> that's obvious enough
[06:41] <ac1d> hey guys okay lol
[06:41] <ac1d> need some more help
[06:41] <DiploCat> hello ac1d
[06:41] <ac1d> my /etc/network/interfaces looks like this:
[06:41] <nickrud> ac1d: don't paste here
[06:41] <ac1d> oh wait
[06:41] <ac1d> i see the problem lol
[06:41] <DiploCat> at least it's still there :)
[06:41] <icesword> arch.ubuntu.org.cn is org.cn,it is damn slow
[06:42] <speeddemon8803> why did i get booted?
[06:42] <devrethman> -_-
[06:42] <devrethman> so how do I tell what my wireless chipset is in order to see if it supports WPA or not?
[06:42] <nickrud> speeddemon8803: don't be repeating that here, same for you devrethman . Not a humorous subject
[06:43] <speeddemon8803> nickrud
[06:43] <speeddemon8803> i was saying NOT to do it
[06:43] <speeddemon8803> if you were reading it very closely
[06:43] <icesword> nickrud, i am installing base system,now at 6%
[06:43] <nickrud> speeddemon8803: I read it.
[06:43] <bazhang> nickrud it was Neutralise
[06:43] <faileas> devrethman: most chipsets support WPA...
[06:43] <zcat[1]> is there something like apt-get or aptitude that I cal install a downloaded package which isn't in the repos, and it will sort out the dependencies .. I used gdebi at home but the server has no GUI
[06:43] <devrethman> it doesn't show up in the dropdown in the wireless thing
[06:44] <bazhang> speeddemon8803: no worries mate; he knows who did it
[06:44] <devrethman> and somebody earlier (cwillu) said it might be cause my chipset doesn't do it
[06:44] <faileas> devrethman: thats... odd
[06:44] <devrethman> I didn't think that made much sense, butI'm going with it anyway
[06:44] <Darkmystere> Err, is it possible to update wine without removing my C Drive...? like from source
[06:44] <devrethman> i've got an older laptop
[06:44] <speeddemon8803> i listed my reason why not to do it :) oh well water under the bridge :)
[06:44] <devrethman> with an 802.11b
[06:44] <devrethman> no G or anything
[06:44] <Darkmystere> my wine is still ver 0.9.46....and i want to update to 0.9.55
[06:44] <Starnestommy> zcat[1]: dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[06:45] <fredmv> I hate to keep spamming this question, but does _anyone_ know how to fix the following problem:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4385541
[06:45] <icesword> Darkmystere, have you tried to build it from source,
[06:45] <cwillu> devrethman, faileas, some cards didn't have good driver support, wpa was one of the trickier things to get working in my experience (mostly broadcom cards, which I don't think he has though)
[06:45] <zcat[1]> Starnestommy: that takes care of the 12 other libraries that the package depends on (which are all in the repos) or do I have to take a note of everything gdebi installed and do them manually?
[06:45] <bazhang> devrethman: what does lspci show--just tell us dont paste it here
[06:45] <TrustNoOne> what is there fun to do on linux
[06:45] <faileas> cwillu: ahh
[06:45] <presto_> Darkmystere msg me for a moment
[06:45] <bazhang> TrustNoOne: sauerbraten
[06:45] <faileas> bazhang: depends on your idea of fun
[06:46] <devrethman> bazhang: nothing that looks like a wireless card
[06:46] <faileas> er TrustNoOne even
[06:46] <devrethman> just like video card, ethernet card, modem, the usual stuff
[06:46] <zcat[1]> saurbraten sucks.. try urban terror or world of padman or even tremulous..
[06:46] <Starnestommy> zcat[1]: I think it still checks for dependencies
[06:46] <bazhang> devrethman: this is pci card or usb dongle?
[06:46] <fredmv> TrustNoOne:  check out stellarium and hydrogen
[06:46] <Reenen> hi all
[06:46] <bazhang> hi Reenen
[06:47] <devrethman> It's internal
[06:47] <devrethman> so I'm assuming PCI
[06:47] <Reenen> I started a bit torrent download (by clicking on the link in firefox), and now I want to continue it...
[06:47] <Reenen> how do I do it
[06:47] <bazhang> devrethman: what computer make and model
[06:47] <simplechat> RedHeron, ?
[06:47] <devrethman> Toshiba sattelite 5105-S901
[06:47] <faileas> Reenen: just start your torrent client again
[06:47] <devrethman> if it's come down to looking up specs, i can do it
[06:47] <simplechat> did you start the .torrent in azerus? or what?
[06:47] <Darkmystere> icesword, did you get my query?
[06:47] <icesword> Darkmystere, you follow the read me
[06:47] <simplechat> or did you just download the .torrent to your computer?
[06:47] <bazhang> devrethman: does ifconfig return anything like wlan0?
[06:47] <zcat[1]> Starnestommy: no it doesn't, I just checked
[06:47] <Reenen> I have no idea what that is
[06:48] <simplechat> because remember kids: the .torrent only lets your computer find the file. It isn't the file itself
[06:48] <devrethman> eth0 and eth1
[06:48] <devrethman> I only have one ethernet card, so one of the is wireless
[06:48] <icesword> Darkmystere, usually ./configure
[06:48] <devrethman> and it works fine on WEP
[06:48] <devrethman> so the card itself works
[06:48] <Reenen> I'll bet it was azerus... I'll try it
[06:48] <zcat[1]> can I use aptitude or apt-get but install a deb that I have in ~, not in a repo?
[06:48]  * speeddemon8803 sits in the room and doesnt say a word to anybody...aparently thats what im supposed to do ;)
[06:48] <Reenen> nope
[06:48] <icesword> Darkmystere, if you don't have some packages,it will stop , and ask for it
[06:48] <Reenen> no result when az{tab} in terminal
[06:48] <bazhang> devrethman: is there a hardware switch on the machine to control the wireless? my laptop has one
[06:48] <zcat[1]> like how I could use gdebi except as I mentioned, this is on a server and has no gui
[06:48] <nickrud> zcat[1]: use sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[06:49] <devrethman> yeah, it's on
[06:49] <devrethman> the card is working fine
[06:49] <devrethman> it sees the SSID
[06:49] <thinman1189>  I'm having some trouble with azureus. I opened it up and I got a message saying to download an update. Then when I went to reopen it gave me the option again, this time a window popped up in the corner saying it had shutdown wrong. Now whenever I open it it closes within 2 seconds of showing the main screen. The update seemed weird because it mentioned OSX but I wasn't sure. I'm using ubuntu gutsy.
[06:49] <devrethman> and everything
[06:49] <Darkmystere> icesword, oh ok i thought compiling from source removed wine and all its things and installed the new one..
[06:49] <devrethman> I just connect and it says "this network is encrypted"
[06:49] <zcat[1]> nickrud: it wants a shitload of dependencies.. gdebi takes care of them fore me.. there must be something in the command line that can do the same job
[06:49] <bazhang> devrethman: the card is working just wont get wpa is that it?
[06:49] <devrethman> and WPA isn't one of the options
[06:49] <devrethman> yeah
[06:49] <devrethman> exactly
[06:49] <icesword> Darkmystere, you must uninstall the former install mannula
[06:50] <devrethman> I don't even know if WPA is working, the only way I know how to use wireless is through that wirelss assistant
[06:50] <devrethman> I hate it, so It's not something I've become an expert in
[06:50] <bazhang> devrethman: then you will need to do it via cli
[06:50] <Darkmystere> icesword, so backup my fake C: Drive and then reinstall it..
[06:50] <GSF1200S> thinman1189: move the .azuerus folder to a location on your desktop and open it again. It will reset all your options, but it will regenerate the folder
[06:50] <icesword> Darkmystere, you must carefull y read README
[06:50] <devrethman> bazhang: okay.........
[06:50] <zcat[1]> is there something like aptitude install --local-package=~/whatever.deb    instead of having to get it from a repo?
[06:51] <Darkmystere> icesword, its talking about a patch....all i really see about update
[06:51] <simgislab> does anybody ubuntu under virtual pc 2007? Can't figure out how to copy text from it to the main machine
[06:51] <bazhang> devrethman: I have had very mixed results with the network-manager; another option for gui would be to try out wicd
[06:51] <devrethman> man cli redirects to man mono, which AFAIK isn't a wireless anything
[06:51] <GSF1200S> zcat[1]: sudo dpkg -i testname.deb
[06:51] <nickrud> zcat[1]: you can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal to create a local repo, then apt will pull in the dependencies
[06:51] <icesword> nickrud, where is cn.archive.ubuntu.com,i am installing base system.now at 6%:(
[06:51] <thinman1189> GSF1200S: I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both with add/remove and with synaptic (full remove).
[06:52] <nickrud> icesword: china
[06:52] <icesword> :( too slow
[06:52] <devrethman> WICD isn't in aptitude
[06:52] <bazhang> icesword: try tw.
[06:52] <GSF1200S> im not sure if that will remove the config folder in home thinman1189
[06:52] <zcat[1]> GSF1200S: I tried that, it spews out a bunch of package names I don't have. and then exist. gdebi goes ahead and sorts them out for me.. I want something that sorts them out for me..
[06:52] <zcat[1]> but not gdebi.. something I can use with no gui
[06:52] <Reenen> In synaptic, I have bittorrent installed...
[06:52] <icesword> bazhang, then i will have a ubuntu-tw?
[06:53] <Reenen> but how do I run it again?
[06:53] <zcat[1]> surely this exists somewhere?
[06:53] <bazhang> icesword: no just faster repo
[06:53] <thinman1189> GSF1200S: according to synaptic a full uninstall removes config files as well
[06:53] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: gnome-bt-download ?
[06:53] <GSF1200S> zcat[1]: after trying sudo dpkg -i testname.deb, try sudo apt-get -f install
[06:53] <bazhang> devrethman: just a moment let me check something
[06:53] <icesword> bazhang, then i have to reinstall:(
[06:53] <Reenen> the package name is "bittorrent"
[06:54] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: Yes, I know
[06:54] <zcat[1]> hmm, ok...
[06:54] <GSF1200S> hmmm thinman1189.. I had the same problem, and removing that folder worked for me, so I would try it. Obviously something isnt being completely removed...
[06:54] <zcat[1]> Hey, that worked... yay!! thanks.
[06:54] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: Try running it with gnome-bt-download (I think that is correct)
[06:55] <GSF1200S> zcat[1]: yeah that automatically retrieves all dependencies that dpkg couldnt find trying to install the deb package
[06:55] <Reenen> Odd-rationale: Oh, I see... but it's not continuing the download
[06:55] <bazhang> http://www.ventanazul.com/webzine/articles/fix-wireless-connection-problem-gutsy-gibbon devrethman look at this
[06:55] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: Or Unhide it from your gnome menu.
[06:55] <bazhang> icesword: nay; just restart the update with the new repos enabled
[06:55] <fredmv> What would you guys say the best lightweight IM client is?   gAIM?    Or is there something superior?
[06:56] <Reenen> where will it save the "bittorrent" metafile?
[06:56] <icesword> bazhang, are you from tw?
[06:56] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: Open your torrent and point it to your half-donwloaded file
[06:56] <bazhang> aye icesword
[06:56] <faileas> fredmv: pidgin or kopete IMO.
[06:56] <squeaks> fredmv, pidgin btw
[06:57] <Darkmystere> icesword, thanks synaptics wasnt showing the updates for wine but doing an sudo apt-get upgrade showed the update and its doing it :), Would you know why my network manager applet doesnt show if i reboot i have to reinstall it (its still installed) but to be able to connect to internet i need to reinstall it to get the applet back... its adding a new applet every time could this be a malfunction with the applet?
[06:57] <icesword> i pinged the tw.ubuntu.org.com.it is 300ms
[06:57] <Reenen> hmmm: Error: Got bad file info
[06:57] <fredmv> I'll look into Kopete.  Thanks guys.
[06:57] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: Maybe you do. :)
[06:57] <icesword> Darkmystere, not sure
[06:58] <bazhang> icesword: just a suggestion; you cn connection may pick up--mine usually slows down then speeds up again
[06:58] <Reenen> Odd-rationale: Thanks...
[06:58] <noclue> quick question... i'm thinking of upgrading my video card. Given that the only graphic intensive things i'll be doing is playing WoW, running MythTV frontend, and possibly running Compiz Fusion/Beryl, which manufacturer's card/driver has the best support/performance on a linux machine? ATI or Nvidia?
[06:58] <Reenen> Odd-rationale: I'll restart it, it was only 10mb in
[06:58] <fredmv> Man, SDL is a freaking headache.
[06:58] <Darkmystere> icesword, it gets annoying having to go into synaptics and reinstalling it every reboot just to use internet...its just about the only netowrk manager ive tried that works for me wifi-radar never worked for me neither kwifi-manager
[06:58] <bazhang> nvidia noclue
[06:58] <Odd-rationale> Reenen: no p
[06:58] <saff> hey all, i've been messing around with my vid drivers and xorg.conf file today, and i just realized that NO videos are playing... trying vlc and mplayer... just get a screen of green static, with sound
[06:58] <bazhang> Darkmystere: you tried wicd?
[06:59] <saff> does that sound familiar to anyone?
[06:59] <zcat[1]> thanks...
[06:59] <saff> they were working fine yesterday
[06:59] <noclue> final answer everyone? thanks bazhang
[06:59] <bazhang> saff what happened in the meantime
[06:59] <Darkmystere> bazhang, i never could get it installed kept saying it meshed with network-manager..
[06:59] <icesword> Darkmystere, what you use to get online now
[06:59] <saff> bazhang, i've reinstalled my nvidia prop drivers many, many times
[06:59] <bazhang> noclue the ati is a real pain to get working; trust me on this ;]
[06:59] <saff> with different methods
[06:59] <noclue> bazhang:  haha okay. thanks a lot!
[06:59] <rohan> anyone know why this is not working?! http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-8-386/filelist
[07:00] <saff> and really messed around with xorg.conf... using a custom one, and various generated ones
[07:00] <bazhang> Darkmystere: want a link?
[07:00] <Darkmystere> icesword, network-manager...it has 3 applets open for some reason...it adds one it looks like everytime i reinstall
[07:00] <saff> it's the same whether or not i use compiz
[07:00] <Darkmystere> bazhang, i have source and package
[07:00] <bazhang> Darkmystere: a how to?
[07:00] <saff> and it's cross-vid format...
[07:00] <VvWolverinevV> hi, is there any way to do videochat over in ubuntu?
[07:00] <Darkmystere> bazhang, sure
[07:00] <saff> .avi, .mp4
[07:00] <saff> .mpeg
[07:01] <bazhang> http://www.ventanazul.com/webzine/articles/fix-wireless-connection-problem-gutsy-gibbon Darkmystere
[07:01] <fredmv> how would I search all files in the system for a certain string via grep?
[07:01] <fredmv> (yeah, I'm a newb)
[07:01] <bazhang> saff when you say 'different methods' what would those be?
[07:01] <saff> fredmv, a sting in the file, or part of the file name?
[07:01] <fredmv> in the file...
[07:02] <saff> bazhang, the ubuntu restricted manager, envy, and by hand
[07:02] <icesword> Darkmystere, no,i mean what link you use,adsl?
[07:02] <icesword> Darkmystere, what app do you usually use to gain ip addr?
[07:02] <phac3> dchp
[07:02] <Darkmystere> icesword, yea
[07:02] <saff> bazhang, i've been trying to get my drivers working properly... i thought i was back at square one till i noticed this video problem
[07:03] <fredmv> This SDL problem is killing me...
[07:03] <bazhang> saff and then you removed the previous ones before installing subsequently? care to pastebin your xorg-conf?
[07:03] <phac3> dhcp*
[07:03] <saff> sure 1 sec
[07:03] <Darkmystere> icesword, dhcp
[07:03] <icesword> Darkmystere, dhcp,that is it,but do you have to use some apps to to dial or something to gain ip addr?
[07:03] <saff> bazhang, http://pastebin.org/20853
[07:04] <Darkmystere> icesword, no i dont think network-manager does it all..
[07:04] <fredmv> saff, are you familar with this type of problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=703137
[07:04] <fredmv> it's killing me
[07:04] <fredmv> this is the closest answer I've found: http://www.devolution.com/pipermail/sdl/2001-October/039456.html
[07:04] <fredmv> but it's still not working for any [SDL] games
[07:04] <icesword> Darkmystere, oh,i got it,you got the link plug in,then you get online,right
[07:05] <saff> fredmv, no clue man
[07:05] <Darkmystere> icesword....., i just used what was installed by default although i did accidentally install the VPN Plugin
[07:05] <saff> fredmv, looks like a bizzare problem
[07:05] <saff> sorry they aren't helping you much on the forums
[07:06] <rikkimaru> When I open alsamixer, and try to increase  Front Mic and Mic Boost on the capture tab, it resets when i open alsamixer again.  Thus I can't use my mic.  Any suggestions?
[07:06] <icesword> Darkmystere, did you have some program running that conflicted with your system,like input method
[07:06] <saff> bazhang, any ideas general?
[07:06] <fredmv> saff: it's all good. I appreciate you checking the thread out.    I guess this is what makes Linux so fun.. lol.
[07:07] <saff> fredmv, haha you got it
[07:07] <bazhang> saff just a moment, looking at my xorg.conf ;]
[07:07] <fredmv> recompiling the SDL source again as we speak but with 'make distclean'
[07:07] <saff> frustrating as hell, but once you fix it you feel like a champ
[07:07] <fredmv> Absolutely.
[07:07] <thundercles> hey guys
[07:07] <Darkmystere> icesword, err...i did try and run a partioned installed OS from Vmware Workstation...and my file system was complaining about read-only and i had to do fsck  on /dev/sda5 (ubuntu partion) from Backtrack 3 beta...and then it wasnt reconizing the group root....
[07:07] <fredmv> sure beats the stagnant, brain-melting feeling of Windoze
[07:07] <icesword> Darkmystere, for now,i am not sure what caused your problem,eccept your give a better description
[07:08] <Darkmystere> icesword, i tried it with root privs...
[07:08] <saff> bazhang, sure thing professor, i've got all night
[07:08] <Darkmystere> icesword, running hte partion in VMWare Workstation that is
[07:08] <rikkimaru> When I open alsamixer, and try to increase  Front Mic and Mic Boost on the capture tab, it resets when i open alsamixer again.  Thus I can't use my mic.  Any suggestions?
[07:09] <icesword> Darkmystere, you told me so much,but i am still not sure what is your problem?:(
[07:09] <elbermungsterses> hi guys, how do you remove a PPPoE connection?
[07:09] <Darkmystere> icesword, it was acctually complaining about unknown usr group "root"
[07:09] <ste-foy> Thank for your help icesword
[07:10] <icesword> np
[07:10] <ste-foy> :)
[07:10] <elbermungsterses> can anyone help please?
[07:11] <Hewus> My ext3 partition has 7GB "free" that is not "available" for me to use. What is using this space? How can I recover it so it can be used?
[07:11]  * speeddemon8803 backspaces my "ask" flag as i see you did ask :/
[07:11] <icesword> !pppoe
[07:11] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:11] <sean_> I have have a folder on my main partition (ntfs) for torrents and when I copy them to my music partition (fat32) I seem to lose ownership of them and my media player doesn't pick them up when it scans. It didn't used to do that, any thoughts?
[07:11] <slop> i have a problem: adept notifier keeps telling me i have an update.  when i get the update, it says update complete, but the adept notifier is still there. when i click it again, it gets the same update, then tells me its complete...and the process continues. NOTE: i've already done 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[07:12] <saff> sean_, fat doesn't support ownership
[07:12] <saff> when you say "media player scans"
[07:12] <sean_> saff: Why can't Songbird scan them then?
[07:12] <saff> you mean like to add to a library?
[07:12] <sean_> yessir
[07:12] <saff> two thoughts occur..
[07:13] <saff> 1. the fat partition isn't getting scanned
[07:13] <saff> or 2. you dont have the right permissions
[07:13] <sean_> It scans stuff fine when I extract it from archives to put there
[07:13] <Liempt> Much like your mother?
[07:14] <saff> not sure i know what you mean.. it does scan some stuff on the fat partition, but not everything?
[07:14] <ajmorris> please dont do that here Liempt
[07:14] <sean_> Yup. Everything that was already there is fine, it's just the new stuff, specifically the new stuff I took from the ntfs partition
[07:14] <saff> what i mean is, can you manually add songs from the fat partition to your player?
[07:14] <Liempt> Please don't do what here?
[07:15] <sean_> insult people
[07:15] <saff> your mother
[07:15] <Liempt> I was just saying it was hard to understand.
[07:15] <elbermungsterses> yeah, but i need to remove my pppoe connection.
[07:15] <prasanna> anyone here use songbird?
[07:15] <meureun> elbermungsterses, look at /etc/ppp/peers/
[07:15] <saff> sean does
[07:16] <sean_> :-P
[07:16] <Darkmystere> icesword, well....i cant seem to get a game called lastchaos to run in wine... its soppose to work by default with the 0.9.55 version
[07:16] <saff> sean this is getting over my head... when you copy them from your ntfs partition, do you own them?
[07:16] <sean_> When I go to add the folders in songbird the folders are gray, all of them in the fat partition are. but some of them get added when I do the whole drive
[07:16] <sean_> I would assume so yes, I'll check
[07:16] <prasanna> tryin to get songbird workin, but not sure how much ppl here use it
[07:16] <sean_> yeah I do...
[07:17] <icesword> Darkmystere, wine is not a end solution,if you cannot forget your games,i recommended you go back to win
[07:17] <sean_> Just make a songbird folder in your home and extract everything there then run songbird, it's pretty straight forward
[07:17] <prasanna> could you get the album art working?
[07:17] <prasanna> no i can get it running
[07:17] <prasanna> but i cant view album art
[07:17] <sean_> Nope, but I haven't tried
[07:17] <Darkmystere> icesword, yea...but its rated platinum and windows doesnt want to boot right now..
[07:17] <Darkmystere> icesword, i havent been in windows in just about 3-4 weeks
[07:17] <sean_> do you have the albumapplet add-on?
[07:17] <saff> ok sean so you transfer a song from ntfs to ext, then to fat
[07:17] <prasanna> yea
[07:17] <Darkmystere> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[07:17] <saff> and you can't view it?
[07:18] <prasanna> yea just dont know how to turn that view on
[07:18] <sean_> saff: no, it never goes to ext
[07:18] <Darkmystere> icesword, here's the terminal output if i try and run it
[07:18] <saff> straight to fat
[07:18] <elbermungsterses> where is the root trash directory?
[07:18] <icesword> Darkmystere, cannot boot windwos,what caused it,will you give a better description
[07:18] <sean_> prasanna: yeah I havent ben able to either
[07:18] <saff> well, technically permissions shouldnt even enter into the equation, afaik
[07:18] <prasanna> oh ok, cause they claim you can
[07:18] <icesword> Darkmystere, just give me msn?
[07:18] <saff> except mount permissions
[07:18] <prasanna> but i have yet to find someone who was able to do it
[07:18] <arbir> anybody uses Prozilla ?
[07:18] <saff> check the mount permissions in your /etc/fstab
[07:18] <Darkmystere> icesword, simple, i was foolish enough to take a pieace of a windows install with Gparted
[07:19] <saff> you want to make sure users can read/write to your partitions
[07:19] <icesword> Darkmystere, wait
[07:19] <saff> or maybe just read, whatever you prefer
[07:19] <Darkmystere> icesword, and to anyone who can help here's terminal output. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57036/
[07:19] <bazhang> http://paste.stgraber.org/894 saff here is mine; yours seems to have some issues--you can compare
[07:19] <sean_> "defaults"
[07:19] <ph0rensic> Well hello mayteeees
[07:20] <arbir> is looking for a good download accelerator and resumer
[07:20] <hawke> can anyone explain what this process "system-tools-backends" is doing running all the time?
[07:20] <sean_> on the ntfs partition it says i'm not the owner just like the fat partition
[07:20] <Hewus> Hi. Anyone know the difference between "free" and "available" disk space on my ext3 partition? There seems to be several GB of space I cannot access!
[07:21] <saff> sean_, yea, the files dont have owners, but you still need permission to read/write to the partition
[07:21] <icesword> Darkmystere, your msn is not online
[07:21] <ph0rensic> saff, whats up holmes
[07:21] <saff> bazhang, glx is the only module you load?
[07:21] <Darkmystere> icesword, oh lol i forgot was logged off for a sec
[07:21] <saff> heyyy ph0rensic
[07:21] <saff> still alive
[07:21] <thundercles> Hewus: the filesystem has to use space for stuff too
[07:21] <sean_> # /dev/sda5   *line break*    UUID=F889-2C34  /media/sda5     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:21] <bazhang> saff aye
[07:21] <thundercles> like journaling
[07:21] <saff> still messing with X
[07:21] <ph0rensic> saff, thats good ... whats the word?
[07:21] <ph0rensic> saff, really? good lord!
[07:22] <ph0rensic> saff, nvidia card right?
[07:22] <mage__> hmmm I keep seeing stuff that tells me how to port forward based on knowing my WAN ip, but can I set a rule that works regardless?
[07:22] <bazhang> saff it seems that there are some 'leftovers' from what ever envy did
[07:22] <saff> yea man it's a never ending joke
[07:22] <thundercles> Hewus: so you can't take up all the space on the drive, or the filesystem wont be able to do what it needs to do
[07:22] <saff> yea nvidia 7600
[07:22] <Hewus> thundercles: I'm missing 7GB on one partition. Any idea what it's being used for, and how I could go about recovering it?
[07:22] <saff> bazhang, no, envy didnt touch my xorg.conf
[07:22] <sean_> Ugh, messing with xorg.conf is the most annoying thing ever. lol I have a 7800
[07:22] <thundercles> well how big is the whole drive
[07:22] <saff> thats all nvidia-xconfig
[07:22] <Hewus> thundercles: I would have thought a few MB was reasonable for this purpose. FAT doesn't seem to have the same issue
[07:22] <ph0rensic> saff, hmm yah where did we leave off last time? I believe you said screw the restriced manager yo were using envy right?
[07:23] <Fuzzy> how do i give X a custom resolution in ubuntu?  I looked in xorg.conf where i would normally expect to see resolution listings and I see none.  I go into display preferences from gnome's menu's and I see 3 resolutions listed.  I guess my question is also if gnome believes that these three resolutions exist where does it store this list so I can edit it?
[07:23] <mage__> ext2 defaults to allocating like 10% or something to root, which doesn't show up as free in df -h
[07:23] <thundercles> no, on really big drives, the filesystem tends to need more space
[07:23] <saff> ph0rensic, yea, tried envy, installing by hand, and the restricted-manager
[07:23] <bazhang> saff well there are just a ton of modules in yours; that eludes me how they got there
[07:23] <Tharsis> hello all
[07:23] <thundercles> yeah, all the exts do that too
[07:23] <thundercles> they do allocate filespace just to root
[07:23] <saff> only thing that seems to work for me is uninstalling with restricted, cleaning up with envy, then installing by hand with the nvidia installer
[07:23] <Tharsis> need some help
[07:23] <ph0rensic> saff, I still think that when you tried the restricted manager there must have been something left over from envy
[07:23] <sean_> Fuzzy: Why do you want a custom resolution? Can't you just take an assigned one from System > Admin > Screens And Graphics?
[07:24] <mage__> Fuzzy: check the logs, its probably auto detecting. gnome just lets you change resolutions that the window manager is configured for
[07:24] <saff> i think something was left over by the nvidia installer
[07:24] <Fuzzy> it's an lcd wide screen tv with vga input
[07:24] <Tharsis> can u tell me where to find a RTL8187 drivers?
[07:24] <nios> anyone got Geforce 8400 nvidia problems
[07:24] <Fuzzy> it uses a special resolution for it's native resolution
[07:24] <bazhang> saff yeah might be that as well
[07:24] <saff> i get this weird problem where when i start X, the "nvidia" module it loads is different than the X version
[07:24] <thundercles> Hewus: that is actually what I'd try
[07:24] <saff> so i have to rmmod nvidia
[07:24] <saff> then when i start X
[07:24] <Fuzzy> sean_: how do i add to that list?
[07:24] <mage__> Fuzzy: be lazy and google a modeline for it ;)
[07:24] <saff> it loads a different module
[07:24] <rikkimaru> When I open alsamixer, and adjust my microphone capture input (default 0).  It does not stick when I restart alsamixer.  Can anyone help me?
[07:24] <nios> i have also nvidia problems
[07:24] <saff> and it works
[07:25] <thundercles> Hewus: I'd go into the options for that partition, and see if it'll let you scale down the space saved for root
[07:25] <thundercles> I usaully don't mess with filesystems much when they are made
[07:25] <thundercles> after they are made I mean
[07:25] <sean_> Fuzzy: Hmm, there are no resolutions at all in xorg.conf?
[07:25] <Fuzzy> but the xorg.conf which i would normally expect to have these resolutions listed has none.  last i checked X wouldn't boot without a resolution
[07:25] <saff> but in the good news, i got direct rendering=yes
[07:25] <Fuzzy> sean_: want a pastebin?
[07:25] <sean_> sure
[07:25] <Fuzzy> heck if your running 7.10
[07:25] <ph0rensic> saff, I basically use what the distro has setup to use if at all possible and if not, I build from source or try to find another repo somewhere, that way I can always have apt remove the files if something goes wrong
[07:26] <Fuzzy> look it's the default x.org for 32bit
[07:26] <Hewus> thundercles: neither. but I have a lot of space around on my system. My 200GB partition has 10GB I cannot use, which I think is unreasonable. Any idea where these options are?
[07:26]  * TrustNoOne hugs everyone in the channel
[07:26] <thundercles> Hewus: but usaully they do things like that for good reason, if the partition is your root partition, I wouldn't use up too much of the space allocated for the root
[07:26] <thundercles> but yeah 10GB is quite a bit
[07:26] <saff> yea... i should do it from source. i think the problem is that i just cant clean up well enough.. something is getting left behind
[07:26] <thundercles> ummm yeah, go into the options for that partition
[07:26] <sean_> Fuzzy: I'm running a modified one on 64 :-P
[07:26] <saff> despite my purges and envy cleans
[07:27] <Hewus> thundercles: it happens on every partition, on creation. I have about 6 ext3 partitions over my drives
[07:27] <thundercles> yeah it does that
[07:27] <Fuzzy> sean_: no worries, i'll pastebin
[07:27] <sean_> alright
[07:27] <thundercles> Hewus, and it's not really important for partitions not system critical
[07:27] <ph0rensic> saff, If you use apt to install stuff, you can clean everything, but if you don't you can have problems removing what was done
[07:27] <mage__> Fuzzy: the installer made one for you, because the default is no xorg.conf ;)
[07:27] <rikkimaru> When I open alsamixer, and adjust my microphone capture input (default 0).  It does not stick when I restart alsamixer.  Can anyone help me?
[07:27]  * bazhang recommends pastebinit to everyone
[07:27] <Tharsis> hi people can u tell me where to find drivers for RTL 8187
[07:27] <Tharsis> ???????
[07:28] <ph0rensic> saff, You probably dont want to reinstall and start with a fresh restriced setup no?
[07:28] <Fuzzy> mage__: how do i get the installer to remake it?
[07:28] <thundercles> Heuws: I'm pretty sure the point of it is that if you fill up your hard drive and the root can't even write do it, then you'll have some issues like not being able to download and install critical updates
[07:28] <saff> ph0rensic, i really don't, but i'm afraid that's what it will come to
[07:28] <Hewus> thundercles: I have partitions just full of data (like the 200GB one) and that 10GB could really be useful :S. Sorry, where are these partition options?
[07:28] <TrustNoOne> what was that channel for talking about random stuff? i feel like being random
[07:28] <saff> this install has been a little wonky since i upgraded from edgy eft
[07:29] <ph0rensic> saff, Fortunately the install doesn't take anywhere near the windows install!
[07:29] <Hewus> thundercles: my root partition isn't an issue, I'm happy for it to have its allocated space. It's my data partitions which are much larger that I need the space for.
[07:29] <sean_> Fuzzy: ATI or nVidia?
[07:29] <bazhang> tharsis is that the madwifi atheros rtl8187 or the ralink rtl 8187; they changed chipsets midway through
[07:29] <Fuzzy> VIA
[07:29] <thundercles> Hewus: well, when you make an ext3 filesystem, that's where I generally set that kinda stuff and don't really mess with it after that, but it's probably
[07:29] <Fuzzy> EPIA
[07:29] <mage__> Fuzzy: whats the native resolution
[07:29] <Fuzzy> mini-itx
[07:29] <ph0rensic> saff, Oh yah dist-upgrades seem to have problems.. atleast ones from especially edgy
[07:29] <thundercles> you're using gnome?
[07:29] <saff> yea...i actually enjoy reinstalling linux most of the time.
[07:29] <rikkimaru> When I open alsamixer, and adjust my microphone capture input (default 0).  It does not stick when I restart alsamixer.  Can anyone help me?
[07:29] <TrustNoOne> ph0rensic, depends, sometimes can take just as long depending on disc speed that it was burnt to, disc drive speed, hard drive speed etc..., mine was on 4x disc, took me a while to install
[07:29] <Fuzzy>    	 1366 x 768
[07:29] <mage__> k
[07:29] <astro76> Hewus: you might consider using a non-journaling filesystem like ext2 instead of ext3
[07:30] <astro76> Hewus: because that's what's taking up the space
[07:30] <Hewus> thundercles: yes. I've just made some more using gparted.
[07:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic TrustNoOne
[07:30] <slop> i have a problem: adept notifier keeps telling me i have an update.  when i get the update, it says update complete, but the adept notifier is still there. when i click it again, it gets the same update, then tells me its complete...and the process continues. NOTE: i've already done 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[07:30] <DDragon> anyone here know how to manually set the screen resolution using the command line?
[07:30] <Hewus> astro76: ah ok, thank you!
[07:30] <ph0rensic> saff, Yah I would certainly recommend getting the gutsy disk
[07:30] <saff> ph0rensic, yea i heard upgrades are bad business, but i really wanted to keep my setup
[07:30] <sean_> Oooh, that's tough.
[07:30] <ph0rensic> TrustNoOne, I suppose your right.. real fast for me though
[07:30] <nios> in my Apperance  -> Visual Effetcts i have now "none" but it looks really shitty when i close a window
[07:30] <sean_> nvidia-settings is really nice. :-\
[07:30] <bazhang> DDragon: reconfigure or write manually?
[07:30] <Lartza_> which is the most lightweight? icewm, fluxbox or jwm?
[07:30] <saff> actually ph0rensic maybe this latest problem means something to you
[07:30] <ph0rensic> saff, Gutsy has been best desktop for me so far, well worth the clean reinstall for me
[07:31] <thundercles> astro: that's what I thought at first too
[07:31] <nios> where can i find nvidia-settings ?
[07:31] <DDragon> bazhang: reconfigure
[07:31] <saff> since messing around with X, i just noticed that i can't watch videos...
[07:31] <bazhang> flux Lartza_
[07:31] <thundercles> Astro: that it was the journaling
[07:31] <TrustNoOne> bazhang, thx
[07:31] <saff> just get a green static screen
[07:31] <CVD-PR> Why the .dmrc get corrupted?
[07:31] <nios> saff: i got that to yesterday
[07:31] <Lartza_> whats the difference between flux and jwm?
[07:31] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg DDragon
[07:31] <thundercles> Astro: but I'm pretty sure it is the space reserved for root usage only, and ext2 does that too
[07:31] <saff> tried different videos (avi, mpeg)
[07:31] <Fuzzy> http://pastebin.com/m698f9d1a
[07:31] <saff> and different players
[07:31] <ph0rensic> saff, hmm weird... and you have all the codecs?
[07:31] <saff> nios, oh yea?
[07:31] <WGGMk> is it possible to use the Ubuntu RDM drivers for nvidia chipset graphic cards and use the nvidia drivers configuration? to specifically enable TwinView for a KVM switch on a Laptop???
[07:31] <sean_> Fuzzy: I'm not sure how it works but maybe you could use nvidia-settings ?
[07:31] <DDragon> thanks bazhang
[07:31] <bazhang> Lartza_: you can google for screenshots
[07:31] <saff> ph0rensic, yea, was working fine even earlier today... just been messing with drivers
[07:32] <thundercles> Astro: the filesystem wont display the space used for journaling even as free space
[07:32] <nios> saff: i had a geforce 6100 but now i try with geforce 8400
[07:32] <rikkimaru> Can someone please help me get my microphone working?
[07:32] <saff> thought maybe i lost something in linux-restricted, but they're installed
[07:32] <thundercles> Astro: and with a lot of data to sort through, I would use journaling if I were wanting to slog through alll that data
[07:32] <ph0rensic> saff, what do you have on your setup that would take a while to get it back after a reinstall?
[07:32] <nios> saff: nvidia are really shitty for ubuntu
[07:32] <thundercles> Hewus
[07:32] <ph0rensic> nios, no way dude
[07:32] <bazhang> saff and win32codecs from medibuntu in there as well?
[07:32] <astro76> thundercles: I would too, and I wouldn't worry about 5% of my hard drive ;)
[07:32] <saff> nios, way better than ati
[07:33] <ph0rensic> nios, I've never had a problem with my nvidia card and ubuntu all the problems seem to be from ati
[07:33] <bazhang> nios language please
[07:33] <CVD-PR> ?
[07:33] <saff> bazhang, yea both.. like i said, it was working even a few hours ago
[07:33] <saff> i've just been playing with the drivers
[07:33] <thundercles> astro: do you know where you can edit options for the filesystem after it's created tho, cause that's what Hewus needs
[07:33] <bazhang> aha
[07:33] <saff> and my xorg.conf
[07:33] <Hewus> astro76, thundercles: I just made an ext2 partition of 67GB to test, and 1.1GB is immediately used :S. It has a lost+found folder there, is that using the space somehow?
[07:33] <mage__> ugh too tired too think
[07:33] <icesword> bazhang, what to do after i finish base system install?
[07:33] <thundercles> Hewus: no a lost and found folder wont
[07:33] <ph0rensic> saff, All this time messin with the drivers, could have had done a reinstall with clean dist disk and be over it
[07:33] <nios> I run nvidia-glx-new
[07:34] <nios> driver
[07:34] <thundercles> Hewus: did you make sure you didn't allocate any root only space?
[07:34] <Hewus> thundercles: I just made one in gparted, as simple as it can be done
[07:34] <saff> ph0rensic, yea you're probably right. just stuff like the apps i've compiled by hand
[07:34] <nios> but still wierd lines sometimes when i watch a xvid
[07:34] <saff> getting Flash working on 64bit firefox
[07:34] <saff> it's just a drag to redo
[07:35] <thundercles> Hewus: it should be one of the filesystem options when you make a partition in gparted
[07:35] <cwillu> !ops | #ubuntu-offtopic
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[07:35] <dodobas> yello
[07:35] <nios> I dont find any nvidia-settings
[07:35] <ph0rensic> saff, What apps??
[07:35] <Pirate_Hunter> ubuntu is not using swap how do i force it to do so?
[07:35] <bazhang> icesword: for the minimal install?
[07:35] <Tharsis> I NEED DRIVERS FOR REALTEK RTL 8187
[07:35] <icesword> bazhang, yeah
[07:35] <saff> actually, i haven't even restarted since i got this problem
[07:35] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: do you have a swap partition and an entry in fstab for it?
[07:35] <saff> brb, gonna try a restart
[07:36] <ph0rensic> saff, ok
[07:36] <CVD-PR> what is the .dmrc?
[07:36] <WGGMk> is it possible to use the Ubuntu RDM drivers for nvidia chipset graphic cards and use the nvidia drivers configuration? to specifically enable TwinView for a KVM switch on a Laptop???
[07:36] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: if so then: swapon -a
[07:36] <bazhang> icesword: well that is up to you--what DE do you want? what apps, etc?
[07:36] <thundercles> astro do you got a private IM, I actually have an installation question you might be able  to help me out with?
[07:36] <nios> http://pastebin.com/m2dc9884b
[07:36] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: yes i do i will try swap on
[07:36] <DDragon> brb and ty bazhang
[07:37] <astro76> thundercles: ask in here, if I can't help someone else might
[07:37] <icesword> bazhang, that you mean ,i can do apt-get install?i wanna apt-get install gnome-desktop ,is it ok?
[07:37] <ph0rensic> WGGMk, yes
[07:37] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: swapon -a gave me nothing
[07:37] <prasanna> ya i give up, i mean i jus spend 30 min tryin to get songbird album art working
[07:37] <prasanna> and nothing
[07:37] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: how do you know the swap isn't enabled?
[07:37] <Hewus> thundercles: no options about space being allocated to root, just what type of filesystem and its size
[07:37] <thundercles> well, basically the device manager detects my SATA HD and RAID controller, but /dev in the terminal and gparted sure arn't, anyone encountered this?
[07:37] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, is it a new swap partition?
[07:37] <Tharsis> WHAT adress is that nios
[07:37] <WGGMk> ph0rensic: is it just nvidia-settings? are they installed with RDM?
[07:37] <ph0rensic> WGGMk, you should be able to do so .. haven't tried with kvm yet though dont know why it wouldn't work
[07:37] <dodobas> is there a way to get Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5756ME network adapter working on 6.06
[07:38] <ph0rensic> WGGMk, you talking to setup twinview? Best bet is to edit the xorg.conf
[07:38] <bazhang> icesword: you want to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for the gnome one
[07:38] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: it used to be enabled but i had to edit fstab because i was adding new hds however i dint touch swap
[07:38] <WGGMk> ph0rensic: the issue im having is I can see everything on the Laptop and the LCD Monitor attached to the KVM switch. But once the X server starts the KVM Switch monitor goes blank (No Signal)
[07:39] <Pirate_Hunter> cwillu: no same partition as always in  hd0
[07:39] <thundercles> Hewus: hang out for a minaute unless someone else chimes in on this, I'm in gparted myself, but I gotta wait until I can get gparted to recognize this SATA HD before I can get into filesystem options
[07:39] <ph0rensic> Is that with twinview setup??
[07:39] <icesword> bazhang, yeah i want the gnome ,but how big is it
[07:39] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, hd0 or hda0?
[07:39] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: if you changed things on that drive the UUIDs could change, use the blkid command to get the new ones and edit fstab
[07:39] <thundercles> which is what I came in here for in the first place
[07:39] <astro76> !uuid | Pirate_Hunter
[07:39] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:39] <cwillu> Pirate_Hunter, that's a weird looking device regardless
[07:39] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: are you verifying if swap is enabled with the free command?
[07:40] <bazhang> icesword: how much space you got?
[07:40] <ph0rensic> WGGMk, are the nvidia drivers installed and twinview setup? or does the second monitor just clone your screen in shell?
[07:40] <icesword> bazhang, 4g
[07:40] <thundercles> Hewus, what IM do you have? I'll give you a sn for it and I can try and find out for you from some of my friends on IM the answer to your question, I just don't use gparted very much to make partitions and filesystems
[07:40] <bazhang> icesword: well that should do; pretty tight squeeze though
[07:41] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: /dev/sda3: TYPE="swap" UUID="fbc5832c-254c-486a-b134-145d06d31eb3" well thats what it shows dont know what to do
[07:41] <WGGMk> ph0rensic: im gonna give it shot with TwinView but i gotta run for now.. thanks for the info bud.. im not sure if its already enabled
[07:41] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: i dont even know if swap is on or off but it should be on
[07:42] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: check with the command free, if it lists swap then it's on
[07:42] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: if not, then verify that UUID matches the one in your fstab
[07:42] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: what is this supposed to mean? Swap:       979956          0     979956
[07:43] <Bricker> and I'm back :P
[07:43] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: it just shows that im not using it but i should even if i have 2GB ram
[07:43] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: free -m would list in megabytes, that's in bytes
[07:43] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: it shows it's enabled and you are not using it, *because* you have plenty of ram
[07:43] <Hewus> thundercles: jabber/XMPP and msn
[07:44] <thundercles> msn mine is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:44] <thundercles> message me there
[07:44] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: well what about now and yeah i thought of that but before even with the same amount of ram it still used swap - Swap:          956          0        956
[07:45] <arbir> is there a way i can increase the font size of wine emulated programs ?
[07:45] <Bricker> solike, i installed some recommended packages (libc etc) so I could install my nvidia driver. I opened terminal and did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to close x server
[07:45] <Bricker> and run terminal to install it, but then it just shuts down X and nothing else. my monitor says "shutting off in 5seconds" cuz it doesnt detect anything
[07:45] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: I don't understand your question, but everything is normal
[07:45] <Bricker> it worked before restart, any suggestions?
[07:45] <CVD-PR> opera dont recognize anymore the flash plugin, how to repair?
[07:45] <astro76> Pirate_Hunter: remember swap is slow, you *don't* want to use it, with 2GB of ram I never swap
[07:46] <DiploCat> astro76, how much swap have you set aside?
[07:46] <CVD-PR> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so?
[07:46] <Pirate_Hunter> astro76: if you say its normal than im :D well if thats the case than i wont be taking your time any long ad thanx for the info on swap
[07:46]  * DiploCat set 2gb of swap, with 2gb of ram... and it's turned into a wasted 2gb cause it's never used
[07:46] <icesword> bazhang, i have a strange problem which puzzled me for a long time,coz i cannot ping other computer in my same ip range,and get respond.always time out?what is causing it
[07:46] <rikkimaru> how do i check if Capture 1 in alsamixer is connected to my microphone device?
[07:46] <astro76> DiploCat: if it weren't for playing with hibernation on this laptop, I would have used between 512MB and 1 GB
[07:46] <saff> back, yea movies work fine
[07:46] <saff> just needed a reboot lol
[07:47] <Pirate_Hunter> brb going to swap hd for a sec
[07:47] <DiploCat> astro76, ahh yeah, hibernation... never thought of that... though rarely use it
[07:47] <saff> been screwing with this poor install pretty badly, its bound to be pretty fubar by now
[07:47] <astro76> DiploCat: my non-laptops use about that
[07:47] <ph0rensic> saff, haha .. too bad your x is still jacked though??
[07:47] <saff> ph0rensic, yea :\
[07:47] <saff> just ran glxgears... i'm getting 5fps
[07:48] <Bricker> 5fps ftl :(
[07:48] <rikkimaru> how do i check if Capture 1 in alsamixer is connected to my microphone device?
[07:48] <saff> yea no kidding
[07:49] <saff> and compiz works, but a bunch of the effects are choppy... but nvidia mod is loaded, and i'm not getting any complaints in xorg.0.log, dmesg, or anywhere else
[07:49] <intardnet> how do i fix packages manually?
[07:49] <saff> anyway, next weekend i'll do a fresh install
[07:50] <bazhang> icesword: you finish the ubuntu-desktop install?
[07:50] <dodobas> is there a way to get Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5756ME network adapter working on 6.06
[07:51] <icesword> bazhang, no,i am right now at base 75%
[07:51] <ph0rensic> saff, Wanna see a screenshot of my desktop?
[07:51] <saff> sure
[07:51] <ph0rensic> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24040049@N05/2284837943/
[07:51] <Bricker> how can I close X Server and run in terminal?
[07:52] <Bricker> cuz when i close it, it doesnt run in terminal
[07:52] <icesword> bazhang, is saving languauge,has been there for a long time
[07:52] <bazhang> icesword: lets solve this first problem then get the second one next okay?
[07:52] <DiploCat> ph0rensic, is that over 2 monitors?
[07:52] <astro76> Bricker: ctrl+alt+F1 through F6 for the six virtual consoles
[07:52] <icesword> bazhang, yeah,i know you are busy
[07:52] <astro76> Bricker: then if you want to shut down x from there, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[07:52] <Bricker> so, prob like F3/
[07:52] <ph0rensic> DiploCat, Yah, I dont see the hard color change line because it is
[07:52] <saff> oh you bastard. that is nice
[07:52] <bazhang> icesword: nah, just like to take things step by step ;]
[07:53] <Bricker> astro76: should I not use /etc/init.d/gdm stop then/
[07:53] <Bricker> ?*
[07:53] <rikkimaru> how do i check if Capture 1 in alsamixer is connected to my microphone device?
[07:53] <DiploCat> it is nice
[07:53] <astro76> Bricker: that's fine too
[07:53] <astro76> same thing
[07:53] <Bricker> alright, thanks boss
[07:53] <DiploCat> although not sure about the top bar stretching across two screens
[07:53] <saff> how do you have the two moniters going? what card?
[07:53] <ph0rensic> saff, hehe I got my setup how I want it, and most of the theme packages saved to disk in case I have to format or reinstall
[07:53] <saff> i'm thinking about getting another 7 series and using SLI
[07:53] <ph0rensic> saff, nvidia 7300GT I think
[07:54] <Bricker> thing did it again! avastye
[07:54] <Bricker> maybe i'll adjust the Hz
[07:54] <ph0rensic> saff, I have no problems running compiz + movies + effects with my nvidia over dual screens and I dont sli... unless you want a gaming rig, its a little overboard IMO
[07:55] <Bricker> ok, after i finally DO get this graphics card installed, how can I make sure that after every restart, it boots to that card and not the onboard. cuz that was my problem prior to fresh install
[07:55] <rikkimaru> how do i check if Capture 1 in alsamixer is connected to my microphone device?
[07:55] <ph0rensic> saff, You like my avant navigator? Took about 3 hours to find all and replace the generic icons
[07:55] <DanThirst> duno if this is the right place to ask, but any one know of a gameboy advance emulater that would work with debian or any linux distro ?
[07:55] <ph0rensic> Bricker, You could disable the onboard in bios??
[07:55] <Bricker> mm, never tried
[07:56] <Bricker> suppose i could
[07:56] <Bricker> DanThirst: i know of them for win32, but not linux, sorry
[07:56] <ph0rensic> Bricker, that is your best bet.. I always disable that thing the second my gfx card goes in
[07:56] <Bricker> sounds like a plan, hoping my bios will let me
[07:56] <DiploCat> Bricker, how about just commenting out that section of xorg.conf ?
[07:56] <ph0rensic> Bricker, maybe he could VM windows then use the emulator in it?
[07:56]  * Bricker loves having a KVM for quick-switching ;D
[07:56] <Bricker> true
[07:57] <ph0rensic> Bricker, hehe how may boxes you have?
[07:57] <nios> ph0rensic: what gfx card do you have?
[07:57] <DanThirst> kinda defeats it :p
[07:57] <Bricker> www.davillageidiots.com/pics/desktop.jpg thats my current desk config
[07:57] <ph0rensic> nios, Did you see the pic of my desktop?
[07:57] <saff> ph0rensic, man it's too sexy...
[07:57] <nios> ph0rensic: nope
[07:57] <Bricker> then i have a couple laptops and old PC's laying around
[07:57] <ph0rensic> nios, its geforce 7300 GT
[07:57] <ph0rensic> nios, http://www.flickr.com/photos/24040049@N05/2284837943/
[07:58] <Fatsas> re sis
[07:58] <Fatsas> akou kanis?
[07:58] <saff> i've never used avant but it looks nicer than the desktop applets one
[07:58] <Bricker> Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 7.10 and OpenSuSE 10.3 and a freebsd box in the closet
[07:58] <nios> ph0rensic: nice
[07:58] <Bricker> actually uninstalling opensuse, dont care for it much
[07:58] <Bricker> prob replace with gentoo
[07:59] <saff> i like that icon reflection
[07:59] <bazhang> fatsas what language?
[08:00] <Bricker> it keeps doing it, when i do ctrl+alt+F(1-6) it just kills something. the monitor goes black and it says "off mode in 5seconds"...wtf? why wont it go to terminal
[08:00] <CVD-PR> what is the .dmrc
[08:00] <ph0rensic> sorry
[08:00] <nios> ph0rensic: i bought just a simple card yesterday Geforce 8400GS and i have problem when i watch a movie in vlc
[08:00] <ph0rensic> I Tried a screenshot during a cube rotation and I pushed the wrong button and logged out
[08:01] <nios> I use latest nvidia-glx-new
[08:01] <ph0rensic> nios, install through the restricted manager?
[08:01] <Bricker> any ideas on getting it to goto terminal ph0rensic? it seems to just go black and monitor cuts off
[08:01] <nios> ph0rensic: yep i did
[08:01] <saff> ph0rensic, lol
[08:01] <saff> ph0rensic, how does cube rotate work with dual head?
[08:02] <saff> do both moniters go to cube?
[08:02] <ph0rensic> Bricker, what up?
[08:02] <fredmv> anyone use Fluxbox as their primary WM?
[08:02] <ph0rensic> saff, You can rotate individually, but I have both as one big cube
[08:02] <saff> sweet
[08:02] <elbermungsterses> hi, i have a slight problem with networkmanager.
[08:02] <Bricker> when i hit ctrl+alt+F2 to goto terminal, my monitor goes black like its going to terminal, and then cuts off. it wont goto terminal properly. where can i edit the properties of terminal so its not "out of range"?
[08:02] <nios> ph0rensic: is that bad or good ?
[08:03] <Earth_> buenas
[08:03] <ddragon> oki have my screen back but i cannot go higher than 800 X 600 resolution but i could before. any ideas??
[08:03] <nipzor> hi, im trying top run a command in the terminal but it sais i dont have permission, how 2 unlock that and become root again?
[08:03] <saff> Bricker, are you using compiz by chance?
[08:03] <saff> wait nevermind
[08:03] <cwillu> nipzor, sudo
[08:03] <cwillu> sudo <command>
[08:03] <ph0rensic> nios, its good, I use the zoom feature so I can see the cube better when it rotates, it also turns semi transparent
[08:03] <Bricker> ddragon: make sure you have the correct monitor chosen if the driver is correct
[08:03] <elbermungsterses> the tray app doesn't show "enable wireless" and wireless connections since i creted a PPPoE connection.
[08:04] <nipzor> cwillu, just sudo in front of that command?
[08:04] <cwillu> nipzor, yep
[08:04] <nipzor> cwillu, apt-get purge wine-doors -> sudo apt-get purge wine-doors
[08:04] <cwillu> nipzor, yep
[08:04] <ph0rensic> Bricker Im not sure precisely where you would want to look, I'd imagine it would be in xorg.conf but Im not sure
[08:04] <Darkmystere> Err, im back would there happen to be a 2008 Version of compiz-fusion..the site doesnt show much and i dont really know my compiz-fusion version just used the version that came with ubuntu
[08:04] <nios> ph0rensic: i dont want any cubs or so just normal in visual effects
[08:04] <ddragon> ive done that but none of my settings will stick for some reason im doing it all through root so i dont know whats happening
[08:04] <nipzor> cwillu, okay ty
[08:04] <Bricker> kk, i'll check it out
[08:04] <ph0rensic> nios whats the card again 8400?
[08:04] <elbermungsterses> can anyone help?
[08:05] <nios> ph0rensic: yeah
[08:05] <nios> ph0rensic: Gecorce 8400GS
[08:05] <fredmv> ph0rensic, are you familar with SDL issues?
[08:05] <ph0rensic> fredmv, no sorry
[08:05] <ddragon> bazhang: to set the monitor i use the Screens and Graphics tool right?
[08:06] <fredmv> ph0rensic, thanks man, this SDL stuff has been killing me.   No one seems to know what to do.
[08:06] <bazhang> ddragon: that would be one way--are you having resolution problems still?
[08:06] <ddragon> yeah
[08:06] <ph0rensic> nios, Im sure that card is just fine, My old card was about those specs and it works great
[08:06] <icesword> bazhang, is it （support) your job? or something interest?
[08:06] <ph0rensic> fredmv, what is SDL hehe
[08:06] <fredmv> basically a graphics lib for linux
[08:06] <bazhang> icesword: haha job? just for fun ;]
[08:06] <ddragon> i got it working with 800 X 600 but all i have listed is 800 x 600 and 640 x 480
[08:06] <fredmv> A _lot_ of 3D games use it.
[08:06] <nios> ph0rensic: cant you take a fast look on my xorg.conf please -> http://pastebin.com/m2dc9884b
[08:07] <fredmv> and I can't get it to work.
[08:07] <ph0rensic> fredmv, Ahhh
[08:07] <icesword> bazhang, for fun,your fun is so different
[08:07] <dodobas> is there a way to get Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5756ME network adapter working on 6.06
[08:07] <bazhang> !ot | icesword bazhang
[08:07] <ubotu> icesword bazhang: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:08] <ph0rensic> fredmv, Did you have to compile it from source
[08:08] <phoenix24> Hi!
[08:08] <bazhang> icesword: care to join #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[08:08] <icesword> bazhang, never mind it
[08:08] <ph0rensic> nios, What am I looking for now, whats the problem? Just that videos wont play??
[08:09] <phoenix24> I've generated my gpg key, but still get the key-signing error.. while doing debuilb -b.
[08:09] <phoenix24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4914/
[08:09] <icesword>  !PGP key
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <ddragon> bazhang:  you said it was one way to use the Screens and Graphics tool. whats a better way?
[08:09] <CVD-PR> checkinstall is the way to build .debs?
[08:09] <nios> ph0rensic: i dont play games. just watch movies
[08:09] <ph0rensic> ddragon, edit xorg.conf by hand
[08:10] <fredmv> ph0rensic, I tried installing it via apt-get/synaptic and compiling it [a couple times] still to no avail.  the weird thing is that it _used_ to work for some games, and then ever since I tried running sauerbraten, I can't get any SDL-based games to work
[08:10] <ph0rensic> nios, right but whats wrong, what am I looking for
[08:10] <bazhang> ddragon: for multiple monitors or the single monitor resolution?
[08:10] <nios> ph0rensic: i get sometimes when i watched prison break yesteday wierd lines and so
[08:10] <ddragon> that got me to where i am now ph0rensic
[08:10] <Arelis> bazhang, Pici: Hi. I discovered the source of the problems, although i'm not completely sure (it was the harddisk), but i used SpinRight and Western Digital Diagnostics "write zeros" on it, and now have Ubuntu and it's been running a whole night without hassle!
[08:10] <fredmv> ph0rensic, here's what I've tried : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4385541
[08:10] <ddragon> single monitor bazhang
[08:10] <ph0rensic> wow I have way too much to look at
[08:10] <bazhang> Arelis:  good to know!
[08:10] <fredmv> lol...
[08:11] <nios> ph0rensic: vlc with no codec pack i use
[08:11] <ph0rensic> ddragon, so whats up your display is jacked?
[08:11] <bazhang> ddragon: you did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:11] <ph0rensic> nios, do you have all the codecs downloaded (libdvdcss2, w32codecs, ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[08:11] <CVD-PR> ?
[08:11] <co_moslem> aaf
[08:11] <ddragon> well it was working properly a few days ago b4 i tried to install a restricted nvidia drie (which is no longer installed) and it gave me resolution problems and im still having them now
[08:12] <ddragon> bazhang: yes i have done that
[08:12] <ph0rensic> ddragon, yes do the dpkg ^^
[08:12] <Bricker> ph0rensic: ok, i'm in recovery mode, runlevel 1 or w/e. if i do telinit 3 it takes me back to GUI, should I try to do telinit 2?
[08:12] <bazhang> ddragon: and what is the issue now? do you have the proper drivers installed? mind posting your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[08:12] <databridge> is there a program out there where i can download complete websites, including the linked downloads?
[08:13] <ph0rensic> Bricker, that i couldn't tell you
[08:13] <chazco> Hi... i've just started Gusty to be told the signal is out of range. It was working fine before it was switched off yesterday. I have an on-board nvidia graphics card. Any ideas?
[08:13] <ddragon> bazhang: how do i get the info to paste??
[08:13] <co_moslem> alooohaaaa......
[08:14] <ph0rensic> chazco, resolution settings could make it say out of range
[08:14] <TBC_z87> quit
[08:14] <elbermungsterses> okay, i have a problem. wireless networks won't show up on networkmanager and i can't enable it either. can anyone help?
[08:14] <nios> ph0rensic: no idea, should i install them?
[08:14] <fredmv> anyone know what pkg the X11 dev libs are under?
[08:14] <ph0rensic> Bricker, sorry man Im not that in-depth in my knowledge yet
[08:14] <chazco> ph0rensic - I didnt change them so a little unsure... can enter text mode, but not sure what to do next
[08:14] <ph0rensic> nios, install what now??
[08:14] <nios> (libdvdcss2, w32codecs, ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[08:14] <Bricker> its all good man
[08:14] <Bricker> its 3am so im wiped out
[08:14] <Bricker> ima goto bed, finish in the morning
[08:15] <Bricker> night
[08:15] <Bricker> thanks for the help all
[08:15] <bazhang> ddragon: well I just install pastebinit and then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit  you can do it manually as well--the advantage to pastebinit is that it posts it for you automagically and then you just post the pastebin link it gives you here
[08:15] <ph0rensic> nios, oh haha yes do that, go to medibuntu.org to find how to add the repos.. the ubuntu-re one is ready right now for you
[08:15] <ddragon> ok ill try that (install pastebinit
[08:16] <ph0rensic> bazhang, hey thats pretty nice
[08:16] <nios> ph0rensic: okay brb reboot
[08:16] <bazhang> ph0rensic: still drooling over your rig; I have that same card but nothing as nice
[08:16] <ph0rensic> chazco, true so it says this on boot?
[08:16] <chazco> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg -- seems to fix it, but now i have a nvidia splash screen...
[08:16] <chazco> Yep, when it usually starts the gnome login screen
[08:17] <CVD-PR> ?
[08:17] <chazco> Text + usplash works fine
[08:17] <ph0rensic> bazhang, its just a dual monitor and Ive spent some time getting wallpapars and themes
[08:18] <bazhang> very nice ph0rensic
[08:18] <ph0rensic> bazhang, thanks.. I can point you in the direction of the files if you like it
[08:19] <ph0rensic> chazco, You can set splash screen to off in xorg.conf
[08:19] <chazco> Just ran nvidia-glx-config was seems to have turned it off.... stuff still looks slightly different though (fonts mainly)
[08:20] <chazco> Think I may need to reinstall from scratch
[08:20] <ph0rensic> chazco, probably not but easiest yes.. you have gutsy? Check out my desktop Gecorce 8400G
[08:20] <Jangari> what's the package for google earth
[08:20] <Jangari> ?
[08:20] <ph0rensic> chaz ahh hold
[08:20] <ph0rensic> jangari its in medibuntu google-earth i think
[08:20] <chazco> ph0rensic - Its not to bad to reinstall, i have a script that restores most stuff and a seperate /home
[08:20] <ph0rensic> chaz http://www.flickr.com/photos/24040049@N05/2284837943/sizes/l/
[08:21] <Jangari> medibuntu, right, cheers
[08:21] <ph0rensic> chazco, Nice, what did you use to make that script
[08:21] <chazco> ph0rensic - gedit?
[08:21] <ph0rensic> jang np
[08:21] <chazco> Nice desktop :)
[08:21] <bazhang> !googleearth
[08:21] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[08:21] <ph0rensic> chazco, gedit?
[08:21] <chazco> Yep, just wrote it manually
[08:22] <chazco> Its a string of apt-get, dpkg and some confiuration commands
[08:22] <ph0rensic> chazco, you referring to the xorg?
[08:22] <chazco> Nope, that normally sets up by itself during install
[08:22] <chazco> Totally lost as to why it suddenly stopped working earlier
[08:22] <ddragon> bazhang: http://paste.stgraber.org/922
[08:23] <Jangari> man, i'm impressed with how lightweight ubuntu is, i've liberally been installing software and my entire installation is still only about 3GB, compared with 5GB for an installation of windows with next to nothing on it
[08:23] <chazco> Its running at 1440x900 (which is right) but not how it should look
[08:23] <ph0rensic> chazco, ohhh I got ya .. I just remember hearing of a script that does that .. so you copy all the hidden files in home too ?
[08:24] <ph0rensic> chazco, I have heard that copying your home to a separate partition is best for back purposes
[08:24] <bazhang> ddragon: no drivers for that card? you would be best served using the restricted driver manager and installing some
[08:24] <chazco> ph0rensic - /home is on a seperate partiton. I just tell the installer to ignore it and everything in it remains as it is
[08:24] <ddragon> bazhang: mind the monitor i have is a SyncMaster 957df
[08:24] <ddragon> hmmm
[08:24] <elbermungsterses> anyone help please?
[08:24] <fredmv> Jangari, yup... Windoze is a hog.
[08:24] <ddragon> i tried that and thats what started he problem :S
[08:25] <chazco> ph0rensic -  My script configures stuff thats not in /home, or shouldnt be backed up in the fashion
[08:25] <ddragon> ill try the restricted drivers again
[08:25] <fredmv> Does anyone know where the X development libraries are located?
[08:26] <klown> is there a way to setup a static ip in nm, for wireless
[08:26] <msingh> anyone having problems with azereus on amd64?
[08:27] <ph0rensic> msingh, Umm I dunno I haven't tried it yet.. just reinstalled to 64bit I could test it if you want?
[08:27] <msingh> ph0rensic, i've just installed it for the first time here .. and it crashed on runtime
[08:28] <ph0rensic> msingh, Ok Let me download real quick and see
[08:28] <bazhang> msingh: how about transmission; that is much lighter imo
[08:28] <msingh> ph0rensic, cheers. i think im seeing the same error as this fellow https://bugs.launchpad.net/azureus/+bug/93769
[08:29] <ph0rensic> msingh, is there a 64-bit version to download?
[08:29] <msingh> ph0rensic, not sure, i just installed it using apt-get without doing anything special
[08:29] <ddragon> brb gotta reboot
[08:29] <ph0rensic> msingh, Oh really? Last time I had to compile it and it worked, but that was on 32-it
[08:30] <msingh> ph0rensic, ah i see. nah i didnt compile anything, just apt-get install azereus
[08:30] <ph0rensic> msingh, Ok maybe you might try compiling it
[08:30] <ph0rensic> I'll try the apt way first though
[08:30] <msingh> ok
[08:31] <ph0rensic> Has azureus always been in the repos?
[08:31] <fredmv> OK, this is very likely a newb problem, but why the hell is it that when I try to compile source via 'make distclean' that it just prints back to me the (what appears to be) bash script that executes when I use the command rather than actually executing it?
[08:31] <msingh> ph0rensic, dunno
[08:32] <msingh> is there another good client to try?
[08:32] <bazhang> transmission, deluge ktorrent msingh
[08:32] <fredmv> deluge is _sweet_
[08:32] <Darkmystere> Err, Guy who told me about wicd thanks it pwns :)
[08:32] <fredmv> isn't transmission going to be default in Intrepid?
[08:32] <Darkmystere> Bye bye network manager x3 hellow wicd  :D
[08:33] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The DEB program package 'sysfsutils' provides the means for the program 'systool' to query the sysfs: systool can list devices by bus, class, and topology." But "detlef@MD97600:~$ LANG=C apropos systool; systool: nichts passendes." How to explain this contradiction?
[08:33] <fredmv> or so I hear
[08:33] <ph0rensic> msingh, DOing config ...
[08:33] <fredmv> HOLY... DAMN...
[08:33] <fredmv> SDL FINALLY WORKS
[08:34] <fredmv> _YES_
[08:34] <ph0rensic> msingh, Hmm hasn't crashed yet.. its open
[08:34] <icesword> who kick me out
[08:34] <bazhang> Darkmystere: it works?
[08:34] <icesword> i am innocent
[08:35] <ddragon> ok installed the drivers bazhang but its still only giving me: 640 x 480 ans 800 x 600 :(
[08:35] <Darkmystere> bazhang, YEP, +)
[08:35] <msingh> ph0rensic, cool. it didnt crash for me until about an hour into using it .. then restarting it, it would consistently crash on startup
[08:35] <klown> Darkmystere: where did you get it from?
[08:35] <Darkmystere> bazhang, sorry for forgetting your name but you know 1119 #ubuntu users...and only one person..
[08:35] <MrEgg964> Hi all. I'm running Gutsy on an old Dell Dimension 4400, on which I have fitted 3 different IDE disks. Why are they declared as /dev/sd[ac] on my system, and not /dev/hd[ac] ? Thanks
[08:35] <Darkmystere> klown, Source forge
[08:35] <klown> Darkmystere: thanks.
[08:35] <bazhang> ddragon: now try the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[08:35] <Darkmystere> klown, the one that has 2008, in the date
[08:35] <ph0rensic> msingh, I remember that happening to me on the 32 bit .. i downloaded the source and compiled it myself and had no problem, just try that would be your best bet really
[08:36] <Darkmystere> klown, i can get you a link if you like..or i could upload my .deb package that i have
[08:36] <frold> argh - I have a screen problem... Im running 640*something... I have a ATI mobilty Raedon X300 grafic card...
[08:37] <guess> Can anyone tell me how to upload a new application in ubuntu?
[08:37] <Frogzoo> MrEgg964: the scsi driver has been unified and now does ide/sata/scsi - hence sda
[08:37] <Frogzoo> grr..
[08:37] <ddragon> ok it isnt showing any Nvidia in the Xserver driver list what do i select?
[08:37] <bazhang> guess you mean download and install?
[08:37] <fredmv> guess:  you mean add an app into the repositories?
[08:37] <klown> Does wicd allow static ips, via wireless.
[08:37] <Darkmystere> klown, yea
[08:38] <guess> fredmv,yes, adding a new application
[08:38] <Darkmystere> klown, its basically a kinda more advanced and usefull version of Network-Manager with less problems
[08:38] <fredmv> !deb | guess
[08:38] <ubotu> guess: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[08:38] <klown> Darkmystere: nice, thanks alot.
[08:38] <cafka> i am trying to mount /dev/sda7 but i get this.. mount: can't find /dev/sda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:38] <fredmv> guess: if you don't mean that, you do a sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[08:39] <Darkmystere> klow, im pretty sure this is the link:https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573&package_id=229460&release_id=577210
[08:39] <Darkmystere> klown,https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573&package_id=229460&release_id=577210 Scroll down and select the .deb
[08:39] <guess> ubotu, hai I have developed an application.Is there any links in Ubuntu to upload new applications.
[08:40] <zhanx> someone suggest a cool program like poser 7 to me
[08:40] <zhanx> but free
[08:40] <ddragon> bazhang: Will i need to reboot for it to take affect?
[08:40] <astro76> !packaging | guess
[08:40] <ubotu> guess: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[08:40] <frold> howto re-run Ubuntus automatic screen detection tool?
[08:41] <astro76> !xconfig | frold
[08:41] <ubotu> frold: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:41] <bazhang> ddragon: aye
[08:41] <ph0rensic> frold, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[08:41] <zhanx> or maybe the linux version of bryce  3d
[08:41] <ddragon> thanks bazhang ill brb after reboot
[08:42] <zhanx> k guess no ones in to 3d graphics in here today
[08:42] <ph0rensic> zhanx, wait
[08:42] <ph0rensic> zhanx, Im trying to remember it
[08:42] <J-_> http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10093690&catid=25313&atab=3&logon=&langid=EN# will the hardware with that laptop run Ubuntu?
[08:42] <zhanx> ph0rensic: k
[08:43] <ph0rensic> zhanx, Your not talking about blender are  you?
[08:43] <ph0rensic> zhanx, Or you looking for more like 3d landscape??
[08:43] <zhanx> ph0rensic:  more landscape
[08:44] <zhanx> ph0rensic: belnder has a steep learning curve
[08:44] <Leechzilla> My sound's not working anymore after I compiled alsa from source from the guide on ubuntu. This is my dmesg output ---> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=12018
[08:44] <bashca> how can update virtaulbox  ??
[08:44] <ph0rensic> zhanx, http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/
[08:44] <icesword> zhanx, where you from,china,where
[08:44] <ph0rensic> zhanx, wait ..
[08:45] <zhanx> Leechzilla: need more info card type etc..
[08:45] <ddragon> bazhang: no dice didnt do anything really its still only giving me the same to resolution settings
[08:45] <zhanx> icesword: nope.. not in china
[08:45] <Leechzilla> zhanx: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[08:45] <bashca> how  can use  mdsl usb  modem  please  i tried all stuff but no answer
[08:45] <icesword> zhanx, where
[08:46] <klown> Darkmystere:  how do i install this..do i have to remove NM?
[08:46] <zhanx> icesword: right now umm.. my proxy is a korean one :)
[08:46] <Darkmystere> klown, yea let me find the guide :)
[08:46] <klown> thanks
[08:46] <icesword> proxy
[08:47] <frold> astro76: and ph0rensic thank you
[08:47] <frold> I will try a reboot :D
[08:47] <zhanx> icesword: sony or the dell laptop
[08:47] <bazhang> klown aye; want a how to?
[08:47] <ph0rensic> zhanx, cant find anything like that either .. did you look on sourceforge??
[08:47] <icesword> zhanx, ?
[08:47] <Darkmystere> bazhang, tell him the guide name..
[08:47] <klown> bazhang: yes please.
[08:48] <zhanx> iceworld research a proxy.
[08:48] <zhanx> ph0rensic: not yet
[08:48] <bazhang> http://www.ventanazul.com/webzine/articles/fix-wireless-connection-problem-gutsy-gibbon klown
[08:48] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The DEB program package 'sysfsutils' provides the means for the program 'systool' to query the sysfs: systool can list devices by bus, class, and topology." But "detlef@MD97600:~$ LANG=C apropos systool; systool: nothing appropriate." How to explain this contradiction?
[08:48] <klown> bazhang: thx
[08:49] <bazhang> np klown ;]
[08:49] <w9> gpppp
[08:49] <ddragon> bazhang: http://paste.stgraber.org/923 <-- there is the xorg.conf file
[08:49] <ph0rensic> zhanx, wow look at this http://dmytry.pandromeda.com/voxelworld/index.html
[08:50] <Jangari> holy sh|t google earth on linux bites, it's so damn buggy
[08:50] <zhanx> ph0rensic:  nice very very nice
[08:50] <Leechzilla> My sound's not working anymore after I compiled alsa from source from the guide on ubuntu. This is my dmesg output ---> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=12018
[08:50] <zhanx> ph0rensic: its for windows
[08:50] <twosouls82> yesterday I have set "umask 002" in "/etc/apache2/envvars" (which is sourced by "apache2ctl"), but it seems that it is overruled somewhere else in apache's configuration.
[08:50] <zhanx> Leechzilla: sony or dell laptop
[08:51] <ph0rensic> zhanx, yah buts its a nice app
[08:51] <Leechzilla> zhanx, Sony
[08:51] <zhanx> ph0rensic: true
[08:51] <zhanx> Leechzilla: it didn't work from the get go. it should have
[08:51] <bashca> any 1 familiar with usb modem mdsl ??
[08:51] <Leechzilla> zhanx: get go?
[08:52] <frold> seems much better now :D
[08:52] <zhanx> Leechzilla: from the default install
[08:52] <Leechzilla> zhanx: Yeah it did, but it's not working after I compiled from source
[08:52] <zhanx> Leechzilla: that was your mistake.... dont do that.
[08:53] <Leechzilla> zhanx: The headphones jack and SPDIF port did not work with the default install. I was told to compile from source
[08:53] <zhanx> Leechzilla: ubuntu uses packages and has files in certain locations and compling for source can screw that up
[08:53] <ddragon> bazhang: is there a way of tricking it into use the higher resolutions?
[08:54] <bazhang> ddragon: what driver are you using? the new or the legacy?
[08:54] <Leechzilla> zhanx: So what did I need to do then, to get it to work properly
[08:54] <ddragon> bazhang: not sure ill check synaptic
[08:56] <ddragon> nvidia-glx the legacy one isnt installed should i install it?
[08:57] <zhanx> Leechzilla: i am not really sure, never installed from source and had to remove it
[08:58] <Leechzilla> meh
[08:59] <zhanx> ph0rensic: i am gonna see if wine can run that
[09:00] <ddragon> bazhang: its showing the nvidia-glx is there but the nvidia-glx-legacy isnt installed should i install the legacy driver?
[09:01] <CVD-PR> this dont work:  sudo chown -R cvd:cvd /media/files  "operation not permited"
[09:01] <bazhang> ddragon: that card is capable of what resolution? how old is it?
[09:02] <zhanx> ph0rensic: nope big no go there
[09:03] <ddragon> bazhang: not sure of its age but its been capable of above 1024 x 768 as i had it on that before on here and windows
[09:03] <bashca> [ 2989.068000] usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71  how can resolve this error ??
[09:03] <Leechzilla> My sound's not working anymore at all (internal speakers worked before, but no headphone/mic/internal-mic/SPDIF ports worked) after I compiled alsa from source from the guide on ubuntu. This is my dmesg output ---> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=12018
[09:04] <zhanx> ph0rensic: http://www.lightflowtech.com/
[09:04] <CVD-PR> ?
[09:04] <CVD-PR> this dont work:  sudo chown -R cvd:cvd /media/files  "operation not permited"
[09:04] <CVD-PR> this dont work:  sudo chown -R cvd:cvd /media/files  "operation not permited"
[09:05] <fredmv> Alright, onto yet another problem.   The SDL problem is fixed by installing the X11 dev libs which are in xorg-dev.  Now, is anyone familar with an error like: "X11 driver not configured with OpenGL" and what the solution may be?
[09:06] <ddragon> bazhang: mind i will be upgrading my hardware in a few weeks so i dont think it will matter much here but i would still like to have a large screen to look at rather than everything squashed together :S
[09:06] <cacaduu_> hello everybody
[09:07] <cacaduu_> can anybody tel me please how can i have a bar like macosx?
[09:07] <G1015> how can I get sound working in wine?  I read a way on the ubuntu forums but it did not work for me
[09:07] <bashca> [ 2989.068000] usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71  how can resolve this error ????? please
[09:08] <cacaduu_> i saw a lot of screenshots of ubuntu + a nice application bar in the lower middle
[09:08] <cacaduu_> how is it done?
[09:09] <gad0> please suggest a paritition manager or tool for resizing paritition * / * ext3 paritition ?
[09:09] <Jangari> i think that's the standard kde applications bar,  cacaduu_
[09:09] <dodobas> gad0: gparted?
[09:09] <Jangari> or might have been xfce, i don't know
[09:09] <pawan_> hi
[09:10] <gad0> dodobas: gparted doesnt have that feature :-?
[09:10] <cacaduu_> Jangari : it is ubuntu+compiz fusion on it, but i have no idea how they made that bar
[09:11] <pawan1> any good ubuntu application
[09:11] <ddragon> thanks for the help bazhang i appreciate it :)
[09:11] <fredmv> is there a similar command 'portupgrade' (like in FreeBSD) in Ubuntu?
[09:11] <bazhang> ddragon: I know exactly what you mean-wondering if the horizontal refresh  rate might be too low? 30-96?
[09:11] <gad0> fredmv: u mean database updating command ?
[09:12] <twosouls82> fredmv: portupgrade upgrades installed ports (from source)
[09:12] <piju> fredmv; apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:13] <fredmv> thanks guys... piju, that seems to be it.  I'm trying to update my nVidia drivers.
[09:14] <fredmv> having some openGL issues...
[09:14] <piju> fredmv; ok, are u freebsd user too ?
[09:15] <ddalton> sauvin, please join ##ddalton... this channel is slightly to busy... ;-)
[09:15] <fredmv> piju:  Nah, I'm an Ubuntu user (7.10/gutsy).   But the solution to the problem I'm having that I found on a newsgroup was given in a FreeBSD context (i.e. portupgrade).
[09:15] <piju> fredmv; ok
[09:18] <ph0rensic> zhanx, wow that looks nice
[09:18] <lukl> How do you spoof an IP in ubuntu?
[09:19] <gad0> I need to remove some free space in fedora(shrink fedora partition) & allocated same space to ubuntus partition without affecting any data to both distro, can someone PROCEDURE & software for doing it ?
[09:19] <ph0rensic> Luke, spof an ip? You can get a proxy, i dont know that you can spoof an ip
[09:19] <DaveEngland> hello, i have a problem with installing my wireless driver! I have downloaded it from the page of my manufacturer, but i get the following error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57037/
[09:19] <sbox> Hello all
[09:19] <sbox> does anyone use swiftfox?>
[09:20] <fredmv> sbox: you mean swiftweasel?
[09:20] <BaD_CrC> swiftweasel is debian specific
[09:20] <DaveEngland> hello, i have a problem with installing my wireless driver! I have downloaded it from the page of my manufacturer, but i get the following error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57037/ what is the problem here?
[09:20] <ddalton> hey how would a debian kernel from kernel.org compiled patched and built under debian lenny run on say hardy or 7.10 or 7.04 go?
[09:20] <sbox> fredmv: no, swiftfox.. it's another version of firefo
[09:20] <sbox> firefox
[09:21] <ddalton> how would it run on ubuntu basically.
[09:21] <fredmv> sbox: well, if it's anything like swiftweasel, I tried it, and wasn't too impressed. seemed a lot less stable than Firefox
[09:21] <bashca> helloooooooo
[09:21] <bashca> any 1 help me ?
[09:21] <BaD_CrC> ddalton: why not just compile it on ubuntu so it has everything needed
[09:21] <lukl> ph0rensic: why would I want a proxy instead of spoofing an IP? :P
[09:21] <Frogzoo> ddalton: at a guess it will work, but it's not supported
[09:21] <sbox> fredmv: swiftfox is very good, but they seem to have realised a new version and it's no so hot
[09:22] <lukl> I know that you can do it with netcat but I havent found any tutorials or something about it...
[09:22] <ddalton> cause the guy im going to give it too... (a blind friend.) has know terminal text-to-speech... ;-)
[09:22]  * BaD_CrC prepares for war. it's gonna be a long night...
[09:23] <fredmv> sbox: have you checked out Firefox3b?  it's pretty sweet
[09:23] <HinHin> yup
[09:23] <BaD_CrC> buggy buggy crashy crashy
[09:23] <HinHin> ^_^ it is
[09:23] <sbox> fredmv: no i haven't actually.. shall do.. i find FF a little thursty
[09:23] <HinHin> Beta 3?
[09:23] <fredmv> yup
[09:23] <fredmv> it's been out for like a week
[09:23] <HinHin> :\... i've found it very stable
[09:23] <HinHin> no crashes at all so far
[09:23] <DrOnline> lukl, you can set an arbitrary ip address via ifconfig.  If you mean sending packets that are marked as being from a different IP than your own, your best bet is to look at the raw packet interface
[09:24] <HinHin> Beta 2 was a the very buggy and crashy one for me
[09:24] <sbox> fredmv: you got any idea where I can get it, google isn;t showing up much
[09:24] <icesword> bazhang,
[09:24] <bazhang> aye icesword
[09:24] <ddalton> ok so its not a good idea? what's the differences with a ubuntu and a debian kernel? just debian patches?
[09:24] <fredmv> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
[09:24] <manson> hi there, have a bit of a prob and know there is guides and I've been following them... but still get faulty screen rendering
[09:24] <DaveEngland> hello, i have a problem with installing my wireless driver! I have downloaded it from the page of my manufacturer, but i get the following error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57037/ what is the problem here?
[09:24] <icesword> bazhang, i just inform you now is time or dinner
[09:24] <icesword> for
[09:24] <manson> anyone with radeon 9800 pro here to help?
[09:24] <bazhang> icesword: haha thanks
[09:25] <manson> fglrx
[09:25] <DaveEngland> bazhang: hello there :D
[09:25] <sbox> fredmv: ok.. serious blonde moment.. thought it was a derivative of ff
[09:25] <bazhang> DaveEngland:  hi!
[09:25] <fredmv> lol, it's all good.
[09:25] <DaveEngland> bazhang: could you check out, why i get this problems? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57037/
[09:25] <bazhang> just a minute DaveEngland
[09:26] <DaveEngland> tnx m8!
[09:26] <lukl> DrOnline: okay, but for example: If a internet pay service lets you connect to their routers and see a site where you can pay to get access shouldnt I be able to use someone elses IP and get in to the internet without paying?
[09:26] <sbox> fredmv: if u get a chance try swiftfox, its just for some reason their latest versions only work with one theme.. a kack theme at that
[09:27] <fredmv> sbox: I've tried swiftweasel which is evidently a Debian/Ubuntu specific version.   simple things (e.g., setting wallpaper) and using the DOM inpspector crashed it... didn't like that one bit.
[09:27] <DrOnline> lukl: not likely.  Payment and authentication mechanisms are rarely IP based (and those that are are asking for problems)
[09:27] <stelt> i have a launchpad page, but where again do i find "report new bug" ? (/me finds launchpad a searching exercise everytime)
[09:28] <lukl> DrOnline: It was works to do like that on McDonalds pay service, but I don't know how to do it and it would be intresting to know :P
[09:29] <fredmv> sbox: you wanna see some cool stuff, install stellarium
[09:30] <fredmv> http://www.stellarium.org/
[09:30] <bazhang> DaveEngland: sudo modprobe try that instead of insmod--that will handle dependencies--too bad there is not a nice .deb of that file around
[09:31] <DaveEngland> bazhang: yes, i have donwloaded these drivers from the manufacturer page.. but i cant get it working:(
[09:31] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug here stelt
[09:32] <BadBatch> Morning all
[09:32] <bazhang> DaveEngland: sudo modprobe instead of the insmod command
[09:32] <DaveEngland> bazhang: i will try yes! tnx for now!
[09:32] <DrOnline> lukl: I don't think I've quite understood what you're attempting to do.  What was it you were specifically trying to do again?
[09:33] <bazhang> luki you want to get someone else's wifi? or what
[09:33] <BadBatch> I appreciate Im probably in the wrong place to ask this question its a port query
[09:33] <lukl> Get internet without paying by using an IP of someone who have allready payed, but I just want to know how to do it :P
[09:34] <bazhang> luki that is illegal in many places and not supported here
[09:34] <BadBatch> Just so I know...can anyone see what Im t yping??
[09:34] <lukl> I shall not do it, I just want to know the tecnique
[09:34] <jim> is there anything better for playing DVD's than Totem ?
[09:34] <BadBatch> VLC
[09:34] <bazhang> luki not supported--wrong channel
[09:35] <bazhang> BadBatch: yeah; what is your question?
[09:35] <lukl> right
[09:35] <stelt> thanks bazhang
[09:35] <gad0> jim smplayer
[09:35] <bazhang> np stelt ;]
[09:35] <BadBatch> ty bazhang..thought I was talking to myself
[09:35] <bazhang> haha BadBatch
[09:35] <stelt> Where do i find what software is default in ubuntu? My Google skills are not working on this question
[09:35] <BadBatch> I am usiong a NAT router ok
[09:36] <jim> gad0, will it index
[09:36] <bazhang> okay
[09:36] <tuntun> Does anyone know why Audacity creates lame (v3.97) mp3s around %10 larger than those made by MediaCoder for the same vbr level?
[09:36] <BadBatch> I have just noticed that I cant seem to stealth port 30001 only close it
[09:36] <Noobie> could someone tell me why i don't have option change size of partition and use free space when i am installing ubuntu?
[09:37] <gad0> jim probly it'll, it based on mplayer
[09:37] <jim> Thanks
[09:37] <cwillu> Noobie, windows on it previously?
[09:38] <Noobie> yep xp, i want to keep it
[09:38] <BadBatch> any ideas bazhang?
[09:38] <cwillu> Noobie, okay, reboot into xp, tell it to run a scan disk (it'll reboot and scan at this point), and then do a _clean_ shutdown (i.e., no reset switch)
[09:39] <cwillu> Noobie, the installer won't touch a windows partition that may be damaged due to an unclean shutdown
[09:39] <Noobie> ok, i used reboot button :)
[09:39] <bazhang> http://teqnix.blogspot.com/2008/01/arnos-iptables-firewall-on-my-ubuntu.html like this BadBatch?
[09:39] <Noobie> ty for help
[09:40] <Nitroray> I have this problem....... When i try to do this: Appearance Preferences >> Visual Effects >> I try to put it on Extra.. But it says:/!\ Desktop Effects could not be enabled!
[09:40] <bazhang> BadBatch: there is also a thread or two at ubuntuforums that may help
[09:40] <BadBatch> kk ty
[09:41] <bazhang> Nitroray: you have ccsm installed? and the correct 3d drivers for your card? what card?
[09:41] <BadBatch> I can stealth it using iptables thats no problem...I was just wondering why I cant with my oruter!!
[09:41] <Relaed> I am installing ubuntu now but it is hanging at 82% saying 'Scanning the mirror'
[09:41] <bazhang> BadBatch: that arno's thing does work with nat from reading the blog post
[09:41] <bazhang> Relaed: for how long now?
[09:41] <Relaed> It has been hanging for 10 minutes
[09:42] <Nitroray> BAZHANG: I have NVIDEA 256 mb.. and it automatically installed updates succesfully ( it was working at 800*600 now 1024*768 )
[09:42] <bashca> please any 1 help to check this post  http://www.pastebin.ca/914914
[09:42] <bazhang> Relaed: let it do that for a bit
[09:42] <Relaed> bazhang, but the hard drive doesn't seem to be working and either is the dvd-rom
[09:42] <bazhang> Nitroray: what exact card please
[09:43] <Nitroray> BAZHANG: Ill check it now...
[09:43] <bazhang> Relaed: give it a bit please
[09:43] <Relaed> bazhang, ok, I gonna wait for some time.
[09:44] <cadefy> Nitroray, damn man, ugly resolution
[09:44] <bazhang> Relaed: it will time out eventually or successfully scan the mirrors--either nothing to worry about
[09:44] <Nitroray> BAZHANG: I have this: Graphics Card: NVIDiA GeForce 256 (GENERIC)
[09:44] <bazhang> bashca could you please briefly describe your problem with some precision please
[09:45] <Nitroray> and i have a Packard Bell WideScreen (im on mums pc, not my stuff i run  @ 1600*1248)
[09:45] <bazhang> Nitroray: is there a number with that? ;] like 8800 or something
[09:45] <Nitroray> How to check that... ?
[09:45] <Nitroray> Bazhang ?
[09:45] <bazhang> the box the computer came in?
[09:46] <bazhang> perhaps the 7 series though
[09:46] <Nitroray> Mhh.. my mums is forgetting to keep them mostly, but i;ll search for now.. brb
[09:46] <nipzor> need help here, installed steam via wine and trid to run some game with it (tf2) it starts up pretty well but the menu won't load, it said that i need directx. so i treid some tutorial about installing direct x on linux, but it didnt work, terminal gave me that error: http://pastebin.com/d3a56d4b7
[09:46] <bazhang> what about lspci in the terminal Nitroray
[09:47] <Relaed> bazhang, it's still not working. what should I do ?
[09:47] <bashca> bazhang, may i post it to u  ??
[09:47] <Nitroray> Bazhang: My mums threw it away :@
[09:47] <frold> I follow a guide - but I dont understand this: Then we log out of our current desktop session. On the login screen, go to Options > Select Session..., choose Beryl and click on the Change Session button. Then log in with your username and password. You will then be asked:
[09:48] <bashca> bazhang, http://www.pastebin.ca/914914
[09:48] <frold> howto logout of current desktop session?
[09:48] <bazhang> Relaed: two minutes? I meant more than that ;]
[09:48]  * twosouls82 wonders if there is an 'afterupgrade-event' mechanism for apt-get
[09:48] <bazhang> Nitroray: lspci in the terminal please
[09:48] <DaveEngland> bazhang here?
[09:48] <Nitroray> Yes, im in it..
[09:48] <bazhang> DaveEngland: aye!
[09:48] <Nitroray> Bazhang: Im in lspci in terminal..
[09:49] <DaveEngland> bazhang: this is what i get, if i try with sudo modprobe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57039/
[09:49] <Nitroray> copy all ?
[09:49] <white_eagle> guys, maybe this is a stupid question, but, is there a "replacement" for total commander in linux? I want a program which will have similar functionality
[09:49] <jim> gad That player worked well thanks.
[09:49] <bazhang> Nitroray: nay! just tell me the last bit with the card number ;]
[09:49] <Nitroray> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
[09:49] <Nitroray> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
[09:49] <Nitroray> 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[09:49] <Nitroray> 00:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
[09:49] <Nitroray> 00:09.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50)
[09:49] <Nitroray> 00:09.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50)
[09:49] <FloodBot2> Nitroray: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:49] <Frogzoo> white_eagle: midnight commander ?
[09:49] <bazhang> DaveEngland: looking now
[09:49] <white_eagle> Frogzoo: ???
[09:50] <white_eagle> ok
[09:50] <bashca> bazhang, did u got it
[09:50] <white_eagle> found it, thanks !
[09:50] <Nitroray> Bazhang: Did you read it? or shall i put it in a pastebin ?
[09:50] <white_eagle> Frogzoo: is it in the repos?
[09:51] <bazhang> Nitroray: haha dont paste it here--just tell me the very last bit (only the number like 7300 or something)
[09:51] <bazhang> DaveEngland: did you try to reinsert the modules with sudo modprobe?
[09:51] <Nitroray> Bazhang: ITs short, i pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57040/
[09:52] <Frogzoo> whyking_: sure - 'mc'
[09:52] <DaveEngland> bazhang: how do you mean reinset? with hand?
[09:52] <whyking_> Frogzoo, leave me out of this!
[09:52] <Frogzoo> whyking_: ok :)
[09:52] <Nitroray> Bazhang: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR] (rev 10)
[09:52] <whyking_> ;)
[09:53] <Nitroray> Got it Bazhang ?
[09:53] <Relaed> It's moving, bazhang, thanks very much.
[09:54] <bullgard4> How to explain that systool considers acpi a sysfs bus?
[09:55] <bazhang> Nitroray: how old is that card? do you have the restricted drivers new or legacy for it?
[09:55] <bazhang> relaed np ;]
[09:56] <hola> sameone cna help me to configure my webcam?
[09:56] <Nitroray> I dont have a cd-rom or something, i just started in the world of Debian / Unix etc.. I was a follower of B.Gates :[
[09:56] <Nitroray> Windows.
[09:56] <Leechzilla> My sound's not working anymore at all (internal speakers worked before, but no headphone/mic/internal-mic/SPDIF ports worked) after I compiled alsa from source from the guide on ubuntu. This is my dmesg output ---> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=12018
[09:56] <bazhang> DaveEngland: remember before when you did the insmod? instead of insmod try doing sudo modprobe
[09:57] <jumbers> It seems that Nautilus isn't generating thumbnails for any of my video files. However, I upped the limit to 1GB, so why won't it generate the thumbnails for any type of video?
[09:57] <bashca> bazhang, did u check the paste
[09:57] <bazhang> bashca please briefly describe your problem here first
[09:58] <bashca> bazhang, i have  usb mdsl modem  ,, i can'y  connect  through it
[09:58] <bazhang> Nitroray: open up synaptic and search for nvidia--what driver does it say you have
[09:58] <DaveEngland> bazhang: i have tryed with sudo modprobe but i get this error ->  FATAL: Module ieee80211_crypt_rtl.ko not found.
[09:59] <Nitroray> Bazhang: What do you mean? How to open Synaptic?? Just in terminal ?
[09:59] <bazhang> DaveEngland: this is in the same directory that you are trying to modprobe from? the ones where the compiled modules are?
[09:59] <lei> sudo synaptic
[09:59] <DaveEngland> bazhang yes
[09:59] <bazhang> Nitroray: the gui synaptic