[00:00] <nacc> blizzow: do you have some other package installed that maybe is "watching" eni?
[00:04] <blizzow> It's a fresh install with the only thing selected during the install being openssh server.  To be fair, this is happening via ansible.  I copy /etc/network/interfaces containging a static ip into place, and the next command ansible tries to run fails because it can no longer connect to the host.
[00:06] <nacc> blizzow: i'm not sure if ansible would be interacting there. I woudl maybe try it without ansible (seems like it would be trivial to do)
[00:07] <nacc> blizzow: that is, fresh install, ssh in, change eni (or more appropriately, maybe eni.cfg/...
[00:15] <blizzow> I copied a new /etc/network/interfaces over manually and it won't change over now. Like I said, it's 50/50 for me so far and I can't figure out rhyme or reason as to how ubuntu is dealing with the change of /etc/network/interfaces.
[00:16] <nacc> blizzow: well, like I said, it's rather unexpected to me (and I've never seen that), so I'm not convinced it's ubuntu doing anything yet. AFAIK, various tools might write to eni (and ifup/ifdown read from it), but it doesn't happen spontaneously
[02:12] <TylerWhitney> Hi good ubuntu folks. I attempted to upgrade my server from 14.04 to 16.04 tonight and the installation failed. When I try to get things working again with the "apt-get -f dist-upgrade" command to the packages it fails on "util-linux" package with "insserv: Service mountdevsubfs has to be enabled to start service hwclock" ... while I have a backup, I figured I'd play around with this botched system as a learning experienc
[02:21] <sarnold> TylerWhitney: odd indeed. could you file a bug against util-linux and initscripts about that?
[02:22] <sarnold> TylerWhitney: for your own playtime this may be helpful  : find /etc -name '*hwclock*'  and  find /etc -name '*mountdevsubfs*'
[02:24] <TylerWhitney> I will file a bug, in my original searches I did see a similar mention of this, but I'll have to go back to google to make sure it was filed as a bug
[02:24] <TylerWhitney> sarnold: With those find commands I see init scripts for both of them
[02:25] <TylerWhitney> If I try to run the script for mountdevsubfs I get the message "Can't open /lib/init/tmpfs.sh"
[02:25] <sarnold> TylerWhitney: the S symlinks say when to start the service during the boot; the K symlinks say when to shut down the service when changing runlevels or shutting down
[02:26] <sarnold> strange, I don't have that file either
[02:27] <TylerWhitney> appears to be called on line 26 of the init.d file
[02:30] <TylerWhitney> I created a quick and dirty tmpfs.sh script there that creates a loopback on a tmp file and mounts it
[02:31] <TylerWhitney> when I run the init script it says mountdevsubfs is running, though I get the message still when trying "apt-get -f install" that it hit a problem with util-linux because "Service mountdevsubfs has to be enabled to start service hwclock"
[02:31] <TylerWhitney> very odd
[02:35] <sarnold> now try the 'update-rc.d mountdevsubfs enable'   -- maybe with a -n to prevent it from doing anything, so you ca nsee what it intends to do first
[02:37] <TylerWhitney> hmm "update-rc.d: error: cannot find a LSB script for mountdevsubfs"
[02:42] <sarnold> try with mountdevsubfs.sh ?
[02:43] <TylerWhitney> Yes, that was the issue I think.
[02:44] <TylerWhitney> I also tried removing it with the update-rc.d command and then setting it with defaults
[02:44] <TylerWhitney> That seemed to get traction
[02:44] <TylerWhitney> I still got an error with "apt-get -f install" but the command "apt-get -f dist-upgrade" is working and installing packages now...
[02:44] <TylerWhitney> This seems promising.
[02:45] <TylerWhitney> But you were right I forgot the .sh at the end when I first ran it, hence the not found error
[02:45] <TylerWhitney> I think I also know what caused the issue in the first place now.
[02:47] <sarnold> oh? :)
[02:47] <TylerWhitney> So, I had a really old custom written init script in the init.d directory
[02:48] <TylerWhitney> I think because it didn't conform to standards when it came to updating it somehow failed starting/restarting all the services
[02:48] <TylerWhitney> I'm more of an application developer that dabbles in this stuff, usually when things go awry I just restore from backups... I'm a lazy sys admin
[02:48] <TylerWhitney> But figured tonight was a good time to play on a broken system... you never learn as well as you do when fixing broken stuff
[02:48] <sarnold> I
[02:49] <sarnold> I'd hope it would take more than that to send it awry, but maybe that was it. :)
[02:49] <TylerWhitney> Yes, I could be very wrong
[02:49] <TylerWhitney> I saw an error relating to trying to start that old service that no longer existed when I ran "dpkg --configure -a" and thought... oh damn that doesn't exist anymore
[02:50] <TylerWhitney> well I made some progress and now we fail on mysql-server
[02:56] <TylerWhitney> Seems to be a known bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server
[02:56] <TylerWhitney> I did an "apt-get remove --purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.7" then deleted everything in the /etc/mysql directory and did an "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-server-5.7" and it worked like a charm
[02:57] <TylerWhitney> And... thats it, we're back to normal and 16.04 it appears!
[02:58] <TylerWhitney> sarnold: thanks for the push in the right direction
[02:58] <TylerWhitney> I was not familiar with all of the update-rc.d commands
[02:58] <sarnold> hopefully we'll be rid of update-rc.d some day
[02:58] <TylerWhitney> He
[02:58] <TylerWhitney> Well, that was certainly the issue... the MySQL server thing appears totally isolated and separate from the first
[02:58] <sarnold> yeah it probably is
[02:59] <TylerWhitney> this was a production server, I like living on the edge!
[02:59] <TylerWhitney> Its a minor server and I schedule the downtime for tonight though ;-)
[02:59] <sarnold> ahhh at least it happened on your terms. sortof. :)
[03:01] <TylerWhitney> Haha! Now the real deal, lets see what happens when I reboot
[03:01] <TylerWhitney> I have the backup image ready if need be.
[03:03] <TylerWhitney> The right way would probably be to install 16.04 fresh, install the required packages, then restore files from backup.
[03:03] <TylerWhitney> But then, what fun would that be.
[03:04] <sarnold> the mysql issue seems annoying. Doing the purge approach to fix it seems needlessly brutal ..
[03:04] <sarnold> 'cause now you've got to deal with the mysql configuration from scratch.
[03:13] <TylerWhitney> luckily my configuration wasn't all that customized
[03:13] <TylerWhitney> I seem to have run into more issues with PHP considering it seems php7 is now default.
[03:14] <TylerWhitney> Got everything working again, but had to manually install some packages that were there before trying to upgrade
[03:14] <sarnold> s/default/only php/
[04:20] <TylerWhitney>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER TylerWhitney oqvrpwipphlb
[04:20] <TylerWhitney> fail
[06:19] <ndee> when the OOM-killer is invoked, is it possible to execute a script? Since I know for 99% which services would need to be restarted.
[06:22] <andol> ndee: You can probably hack something together by have something watch the kernel log, but I don't think there is any explicit reliable way to hook a script in there.
[06:23] <ndee> andol: ok, since normally, it's always mysql and apache that needs to be restarted and the server would function again but I'm not sure on how to achieve that.
[06:23] <andol> ndee: Depending on circumstances, I'm otherwise partial to have the kernel panic-and-reboot in case of an OOM.
[06:25] <andol> Yet, in case this is a common problem for you, it sounds like the first thing you should do is to tune the memory usage of Apache and Mysql.
[06:27] <zbouby> hi all i have this problem after upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 ==>14.04
[06:27] <zbouby> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libapache2-mod-php5:
[06:27] <zbouby>  libapache2-mod-php5 depends on apache2 (>= 2.4); however:
[06:29] <ndee> andol: I just checked, in apache, the processes just started to rise and rise until 256 and then remained there until the restart of apache. How could I avoid that?
[06:31] <ndee> the keepalivetimeout is set to 5 and the timeout in general is set to 300. The number of processes rose over a time of 6 hours
[06:33] <andol> ndee: Was a while since I spent some serious quality time with Apache, but if I remember correctly you might want to tune your MPM settings, regarding how many childs and threads to allow, etc
[06:35] <andol> ndee: But really, now I'm mostly shooting from my hip, so you should probably rather get your advice from someone who does this stuff for real.
[10:35] <FManTropyx> will 14.04 systems be getting automatic upgrade soon?
[10:37] <Odd_Bloke> FManTropyx: Yep, for some value of "soon". :)
[10:38] <FManTropyx> okay, I remember hearing today's date previously
[11:01] <sveinse> Isn't it safe to uninstall mdadm and lvm2, when its not needed? I have ubuntu-server installed, and these two packages are depended upon
[11:01] <sveinse> I find the message "W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays." a real annoyance
[11:04] <patdk-lap> must have picked the install everything option, instead l minimal install
[11:04] <patdk-lap> I actually find having openiscsi installed to be more annoying
[11:06] <sveinse> patdk-lap: I haven't noticed that one actually. How is it bothersome?
[13:21] <rbasak> jcastro: hey, do you know if there's a PHP webapp charm? I need to set up a LAMP stack for a non-work project but I couldn't find one.
[13:21] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb: ceilometer and aodh are now blocked on cotyledon
[13:21] <jamespage> well for post b2 anyway
[13:50] <techsayan> Hi, I was trying to assign group permissions in my server, can someone help me out setting up group permissions on the system level rather than file/directory level?
[14:13] <cpaelzer> rbasak: hey, I'm not sure yet if I find the time - but atm I'm kind of blocked on almost all ends I worked on, so would you pick 1-3 bugs depending on their compexity for me to work on?
[14:17] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I don't have many prepared, sorry. I need to fill the backlog again. How about bug 1594202? Or just take a look around for one?
[14:18] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, or knock through some more merges too
[14:18] <rbasak> cpaelzer: see "List of recently modified bugs in packages looked after by the server team" in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase
[14:21] <cpaelzer> jgrimm: do you still have the generated list for the merges that could identify candidates other than just looking around?
[14:21] <coreycb> jamespage, ok and as for MIRs I think we're just blocked on aodhclient and ryu
[14:23] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, i have a script now!  but really its easy enough to just look at MOM
[14:23] <cpaelzer> sure, can do that in case I run dry again :-)
[14:23] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, maybe rbasak would hand off exim4 to you? i know that's been on his backlog for a long while?
[14:23] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, and i'm quite certain rharper would let you take strongswan
[14:24] <cpaelzer> I didn't want to grab something too big before vacation as surely curtin, dpdk and the open merges are soon suddenly full of work once unblocked
[14:24] <jgrimm> fair enough, plenty of those too!
[14:27] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, logwatch and amavisd-new are probably trivial
[14:27] <cpaelzer> rbasak: nacc: so to be ready for safety if one could make available for the importer: exim4, logwatch and amavisd-new - that would be great no matte rwho takes it eventually
[14:28] <coreycb> jamespage, ddellav: zigo's working on cotyledon.  we'll need to MIR that as well.
[14:28] <rbasak> cpaelzer: sure, I'll import now.
[14:28] <ddellav> coreycb ah ok, good news
[14:29] <jamespage> coreycb, ack
[14:29] <jgrimm> rbasak, 'at' and memcached too please
[14:30] <rbasak> ack
[14:33] <rbasak> jgrimm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer/+bug/1605280
[14:34] <jgrimm> rbasak, :) thanks
[14:38] <coreycb> jamespage, ddellav: aodhclient MIR approved
[14:42] <frickler> cpaelzer: if you are looking for a bug to solve, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6/+bug/1574509 would still be a good one for me ;)
[15:50] <jgrimm> rbasak, fyi->https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer/+bug/1605280
[15:51] <jgrimm> err meant nacc ^^ sorry
[15:52] <nacc> jgrimm: yep, i'm reading and working on it now
[15:52] <jgrimm> nacc, cool. tx
[15:52] <zetheroo> how do I stop a tty instance and disable it in Ubuntu as is done here for CentOS: https://mrkmg.com/posts/2015/07/proxmox-centos-7-console-showing-two-login-prompts/
[15:55] <ddellav> coreycb lp:~ddellav/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer and lp:~ddellav/ubuntu/+source/openstack-trove ready for review/push. FYI: Trove had quite a few dependency updates. I'm not sure what you want to do about that but i added them.
[16:00] <jamespage> ddellav, coreycb: newton-proposed passed tempest smoke - pushing to updates now
[16:00] <coreycb> \o/
[16:01] <ddellav> woot
[16:09] <coreycb> ddellav, ceilomter is pushed/uploaded
[16:13] <coreycb> ddellav, for openstack-trove the only dep that should need updating is oslo.concurrency>=3.7.1, which is ok.
[16:13] <ddellav> coreycb there was a bunch that were out of sync. Do we just ignore those?
[16:14] <coreycb> ddellav, that's the only one I noticed was different between 5.0.0 and 5.1.0
[16:15] <ddellav> coreycb thats correct but if you manually diff the requirements.txt and d/control there are many differences
[16:15] <ddellav> coreycb https://cl.ly/2s2u331N1D0A/Image%202016-07-21%20at%2012.15.28%20PM.png
[16:17] <coreycb> ddellav, gotcha, so we missed updates to d/control on previous changes.  /me looks again.  as long as they're in the archive for xenial it should be fine.
[16:19] <coreycb> ddellav, yep looks good
[16:20] <ddellav> coreycb ok, then it's good to push :)
[16:20] <coreycb> ddellav, yep, builds ok I assume?
[16:20] <ddellav> coreycb yessir
[16:25] <coreycb> ddellav, trove pushed/uploaded as well.  for ceilometer I asked arges to reject our previous mitaka point release that was in the review queue since this one overrides it.
[16:26] <ddellav> coreycb ok, i updated the bug and the card to include 6.1.3 as well
[16:42] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys is there a reason why 16.04 doesnt require sudo when one does init 0 or what ever init command
[16:44] <tarpman> eagles0513875|2: yes
[16:45] <eagles0513875|2> tarpman: whats the reason is it expected behaviour or a bug
[16:46] <tarpman> eagles0513875|2: the default policy allows users with a local session to shut down the system. it's expected.
[16:47] <eagles0513875|2> isnt that a bit of a risk especially for production systems
[16:47] <eagles0513875|2> and when you say policy what do you mean exactly by policy please?
[16:50] <arges> coreycb: which one
[16:50] <arges> 6.1.1
[16:50] <coreycb> arges, yes 6.1.1
[16:50] <coreycb> thanks
[16:50] <arges> coreycb: ok done
[16:52] <tarpman> eagles0513875|2: /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy is the policy I'm talking about. specifically <action id="org.freedesktop.login1.power-off"> with <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
[16:53] <eagles0513875|2> ok never really looked into that stuff that is why it works and i dont touch but thanks for enlightening me :)
[18:07] <poood> hey guys do you know how to clone a disk?   http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/297446/how-to-clone-an-entire-linux-disk-and-boot-it
[18:10] <dr4c4n> poood: dd?
[18:10] <poood> dr4c4n: i used dd but forget the boot sector
[18:10] <poood> don't know how...
[18:14] <dr4c4n> it shows you on the page how to backup the mbr
[18:14] <sarnold> if you clone the whole disk you don't need to worry about a disk sector specifically; if you clone just a partition then you'll have to install a boatlaoder of some sort
[18:14] <sarnold> sigh
[18:15] <dr4c4n> yes then run grub-install
[18:16] <poood> sarnold: okay. thank you. let me try :)
[18:16] <poood> many thanks btw
[18:16] <poood> so helpful
[20:20] <bulletxt|2> hi, im trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 with do.-release upgrade
[20:21] <bulletxt|2> if finds precise 12.04 but then stops after reading repos and restores back to previous source list
[20:21] <bulletxt|2> any idea why is this?
[20:21] <bulletxt|2> I could paste the output but since its long I dont know how to scroll as the process from what I can understand is run inside the "screen" utility
[20:22] <terje> hi, I'd like to download the xenial cloud image (which I've done) and add a bunch of packages to the img file.
[20:22] <terje> I've attempted to guestmount it, then apt install <stuff>
[20:22] <terje> but I'm getting this error:
[20:22] <terje> Fatal Python error: Failed to open /dev/urandom
[20:23] <terje> any suggstions?
[20:24] <dr4c4n> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2305183.html
[20:26] <bulletxt|2> anyone?
[20:27] <rattking> terje: are you mounting and chrooting into a image? if so you probably need to bind mount proc sys and dev into the images filesystem..
[21:01] <bulletxt|2> I found the isse in the logs, at a certain point in the do.release upgrade at the beginning it says something like
[21:02] <bulletxt|2> "it was not possible to authenticate some packages. This could be a temp problem etc"
[21:02] <bulletxt|2> any clue?
[21:03] <rattking> I *think* the package signing keys are in ubuntu-keyring maybe you need to update that first?
[21:04] <bulletxt|2> I did that
[21:04] <bulletxt|2> a lot of times
[21:04] <bulletxt|2> I did an apt-get update and upgrade
[21:04] <bulletxt|2> rebooted
[21:04] <bulletxt|2> I did them all
[21:04] <bulletxt|2> now I was reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade
[21:05] <rattking> did you pull in the package from the version you are trying to upgrade to?
[21:05] <bulletxt|2> its a long story, im on 10.04
[21:06] <bulletxt|2> I put the EOL repos
[21:06] <bulletxt|2> they seem to work
[21:06] <bulletxt|2> but do-release upgrade is failing
[21:06] <bulletxt|2> miserably with that log (and it took me 1 hour to find the log!"
[21:06] <bulletxt|2> but at least now I know whats happening
[21:25] <bulletxt|2> yea, http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade fixed my problem
[21:45] <vidasov> Hi guys, I have problem with kvm/libvirt and apparmor. Usb-passthrough doesn't work because of apparmor profile. Question is that I can't find answer anyware, are quotes considered to be ok in apparmor profile defined by libvirt-xxx.files?
[21:48] <sarnold> vidasov: yes, you can quote paths with e.g. spaces in them if you need to
[21:49] <vidasov> ok, sounds good but that is not a bug which bothers me than. thnx sarnold
[21:54] <vidasov> but why some paths in libirt-xxx.file are quoted and some not, no spaces in path. I gues if quotes are ok than I should not consider it anymore....
[21:56] <sarnold> vidasov: the paths may have been stuck in quotes by an automated tool somewhere, which didn't go to the trouble of finding out if the quotes are needed :)
[21:57] <vidasov> Yes, looks like I need to oppen a bug request :-(


[01:12] <saul> hello
 Anyone using Akregator? I am not able to figure out where do the articles marked "Important" are supposed to be viewed from.
[06:01] <user|7465> yo
[08:19] <user|87364> hi all, what's the Kubuntu minimal specs i need on a computer for run this?
[08:20] <user|87364> i am new user trying Linux distributions
[08:20] <TheBigK> user|87364: what are ur specs u wanna run kubuntu in
[08:21] <user|87364> i have Core2duo, 2gb RAM, 500gb hard disk drive
[08:21] <TheBigK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements <- thats the recommendations ...
[08:22] <TheBigK> RAM is a little small.. especially wanting to run a modern browser
[08:22] <user|87364> i need two gb of ram, i can buy and it's upgradable on this pc. Ty
[08:23] <TheBigK> but there are other distributions that are designed for older machines.
[08:23] <user|87364> any recomendation?
 I removed APT … What to do?
 I tried to download the .deb file of apt, it didn't installed due to the statu
 The problem, that i wanna restore the old statu, and i don't know how, i tried to find if i can use a log, or something from the Var file, still i have the same problem … " … Sudo: apt cannot be found … Sudo: *** command not found … "
 Should i just move data and reinstall? … I wanna fing another thing to do
[11:48] <TheBigK> is this supposed to be a joke or something?
 No!?
 This is happend to me
[12:03] <TheBigK> u actually did confirm removing apt with Yes, do as I say! ?
[12:03] <TheBigK> even tho u got warned?
[12:03] <skramer> Is it even possible to remove apt?
[12:04] <TheBigK> skramer: yes it is
 Since my terminal in german … I typed "ja, tue was ich sage!" … Which is the same, the problem is, i didn't see the full warning it went up
 It's possible and you can remove sudo too, but sudo won't give you a warning tho
[12:05] <TheBigK> im sorry, but this is funny...
 I mean yes, and no … I must reinstall the system
[12:05] <skramer> TheBigK: Oh, I was not aware one could do it...
 I tried to use dpkg instead to install apt!
 It didn't work out
[12:05] <TheBigK> skramer: i did that once or twice... but I knew what I was doing and reinstalled apt successfully
[12:06] <skramer> TheBigK: ;)
 So how did you install it again? … I still have my var and logs
[12:06] <TheBigK> the problem is if ur database is gone or not
 Am still new by the way, and founded that, something like that is extermly bad to ever be done
 Well, i can't find discovery too
[12:07] <TheBigK> if something is warning u that bad.... and u have to type a whole sentence... u should have been warned enough
 Wait i will open my laptop to show you what i get when i try to use apt now
[12:07] <TheBigK> i assume command not found?
 Yes, my bad, the terminal language was german not in english
 @TheBigK, No, i fixed that
 It's something else, alike haveing a "lib***.0.0
[12:08] <TheBigK> !paste
 I can't remember wait am opning the laptop
[12:08] <TheBigK> pastebin it pls
 Since my browser gone too, i can't open it, i will take a photo from my phone
 It's really bad day man
[12:10] <TheBigK> dont reboot ur computer
[12:10] <TheBigK> it probably will be worse by then
 Wait what??
[12:11] <TheBigK> u might have some libs removed... core libs... and if u reboot those cant be found anymore
[12:11] <TheBigK> u might have some of those in ur RAM still
 (Photo, 1280x202) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/bWbpUzZY/file_43933.jpg Okay look
[12:12] <TheBigK> IrcsomeBot: is this a bost that pastes from the unregistered channel or something?
 @TheBigK, Maybe this..
[12:13] <TheBigK> pls type dpkg -l apt
[12:13] <TheBigK> which architecture is shown
[12:14] <skramer> TheBigK: If this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/519679/how-to-install-removed-apt might be helpful to him?
 (Photo, 1280x496) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/SeLO6rCg/file_43934.jpg
 It's amd64 anyway
[12:17] <TheBigK> are u sure u installed the right version of apt?
[12:17] <TheBigK> something is not matching there
 I got it from the site ubuntu-packges
 Last version
[12:18] <TheBigK> for the right distribution?
[12:18] <TheBigK> the right archtiecture?
 Yes, and it was amd64
 Also i can't reinstall Discovery, it might help updating from it than from apt
[12:19] <TheBigK> this is hard to believe... since libapt-private.so.0.0 is part of the apt package
 Can i even update my system by any chance without apt?
[12:19] <TheBigK> no u cant
 If i told you what happend you will laugh
[12:19] <TheBigK> try ldconfig pls
 I tried to install a game from lutris..
[12:20] <TheBigK> and run again
[12:20] <TheBigK> sudo ldconfig
 (Photo, 1280x634) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/caRi9HpY/file_43935.jpg
[12:21] <TheBigK> LDCONFIG ... in smaller case
[12:21] <TheBigK> not idconfig
[12:21] <TheBigK> sudo ldconfig
 Oh
 It didn't give me anything
[12:21] <TheBigK> thats ok
[12:21] <TheBigK> does apt run now?
 (Photo, 1280x428) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/xAUot12b/file_43936.jpg No, still..
 Libapt-private.so.0.0
 Whats that, this is the problem here
 Symbol lookup error
[12:23] <TheBigK> dude...
[12:23] <TheBigK> nvm
[12:24] <TheBigK> i thought u didnt run ldconfig
 (Photo, 1280x246) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/yJ4YXHeQ/file_43937.jpg I still have this files in etc if it might help
 @TheBigK, Permission denied at the end
 I really messed it up
 But, how just a game removes apt!?
[12:25] <TheBigK> a game doesnt remove apt... wtf?
 This is all happened when i tried to install assissin's creed odysse from lutris
 Which is weird
[12:27] <TheBigK> i dont use lutris... so i cant say anything about that
 And it's my first time knowing how "yes, do what i say!" Is way so away from beginners
[12:27] <TheBigK> i mean... now u know... u wont do it again :D
 Yes, am not mad tho, or gonna switch back to winlose
[12:28] <TheBigK> it sounds like some db is broken... lets see
 Am just wanna fix it, it's like a challenge right now
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 The easy way: reinstall the OS … I need the hard way
[12:30] <TheBigK> u have network, right?
[12:30] <TheBigK> just no browser, correct?
 Yes
 I can use tor, this is the only browser that works i dunno why
[12:31] <TheBigK> !pastebininit
[12:31] <TheBigK> !pastebinit
[12:32] <TheBigK> ah fuck
[12:32] <TheBigK> do u have netcat install? see nc --help
 @TheBigK, I don't!
[12:32] <TheBigK> brrrr
[12:33] <TheBigK> libc-bin is installed still?
 I'll check
 Where should i find it?
[12:34] <TheBigK> dpkg -l libc-bin ... but dpkg -l doesnt work anymore?
 Wait
 Dpkg: error
[12:37] <BluesKaj> !u | TheBigK
[12:37] <BluesKaj> also watch the language please
 (Photo, 1280x706) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/9QVadrzd/file_43940.jpg
[12:42] <TheBigK> can u do ldd /usr/bin/apt see if there are some missing libs?
[12:43] <TheBigK> the other thing u can check if u have /var/lib/dpkg/status ... is that file available?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> TheBigK, please stop the text speak
[12:44] <TheBigK> BluesKaj: its hard to change that... im so used to that
[12:44] <BluesKaj> well get used to it\
[12:44] <TheBigK> well ... i try...
[12:44] <TheBigK> and he understands quite well...
[12:45] <BluesKaj> no matter it's the rules
 @BluesKaj, What does it means!?
[12:46] <TheBigK> i shouldnt use u... i should use you
 Hmmm
[12:46] <BluesKaj> exactly
[12:47] <TheBigK> changing habits wont happen from one second to the other... so you have to be patient and understand
 (Photo, 1280x546) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/YTb5OP6t/file_43943.jpg I have those
[12:48] <TheBigK> im running out of ideas...
[12:48] <BluesKaj> It's merely a reminder about freenode chatroom rules, that's all
 @TheBigK, Not a directory
 If i used "ldd": … Not a dynamic executable
 I found a solution requireds dpkg
[12:49] <TheBigK> try it out...
 cd /var/cache/apt/archives … dpkg -i apt_1.4.8_amd64.deb … ldconfig -n -v /usr/lib
 But it does not work
 (Photo, 650x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/U0aD90yZ/file_43944.jpg
 WAIT
 (Photo, 1280x282) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cNbC5syW/file_43945.jpg Look
 I have a problem with "libstdc++6:amd64"
[12:56] <isomari> greeetings, is it possoble to hide the mouse cursor when I'm typing? Especially in my browser search box.
[13:07] <TheBigK> do you have that file in /var/lib/apt/archives ... or any other version of that lib?
[13:07] <TheBigK> Euonoia86: which kubuntu release are u running?
[13:15] <TheBigK> isomari: after some googling try out xbanish... i dont know anything about it tho ;)
[13:16] <isomari> TheBigK: thanks, was just looking a it
[13:19] <isomari> xbanish works perfectly
 @TheBigK, LTS
 @TheBigK, No, i told you that up there
[13:22] <TheBigK> so its 20.04 focal
[13:22] <TheBigK> there is more than one LTS
[13:24] <TheBigK> Eunoia86 try http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-10/libstdc++6_10.2.0-5ubuntu1~20.04_amd64.deb
 How do i know?
[13:27] <TheBigK> cat /etc/issue
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ZbjvlHIK/file_43948.jpg This is what happend
 @TheBigK, Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS \n \L
 But my DE is KDE
 It shows ubuntu not kubuntu i know this
[13:28] <TheBigK> copy that debian package by hand if u need to... or boot a live usb stick with a working kubuntu
[13:29] <TheBigK> thats fine. kubuntu doesnt have its own distribution string in /etc/issue
 I have windows on my HDD … I can use Rufus with it
 Cause kubuntu on SSD … Windows on old HDD
 On the same laptop
 If it didn't worked i have no choice but to reinstall
[13:30] <TheBigK> i mean ... thats up to u
[13:30] <TheBigK> but from a live usb stick... u can chroot into ur broken system
 I thought i may fix it from grub … Or a tool like testdisk (which i can't install)
[13:30] <TheBigK> and copy like that the needed package and manually install them with dpkg
[13:30] <TheBigK> u could cry curl instead if wget doesnt work
 @TheBigK, Would it take forever?
 I saw someone speaking about something called "ar"
 Would it help on the terminal?
[13:31] <TheBigK> i have no idea. if u fixed one issue another issue might popup ... i dont uninstall apt on a daily basis :D
 Lol
[13:31] <TheBigK> surely yes cause u have a running browser...
[13:32] <TheBigK> and u can have netcat for example and many other things
[13:32] <TheBigK> its a fully functioning linux then.. and the broken system is then into ur chroot shell
[13:32] <TheBigK> theres probably wiki page for ubuntu to chroot into ur system from a live kubuntu
 If you have a link or anything would help, throw that on my dumbness
[13:33] <TheBigK> and u need to do that anyways if u wanting to reinstall in the end
[13:33] <TheBigK> you
 I thought of changing to another distro, i used manjaro before
[13:34] <TheBigK> is ur drive encrypted?
 Linux no … Windows no
 It uses ext4 i think
 This is what i choosed in the installation
[13:38] <isomari> is there any advantage to switching to wayland in focal? I'm using an H Envy 17 with nvidia graphics.
[13:49] <isomari> any drwabacks to upgrading my focal 21.04?
[13:49] <isomari> drawbacks
 (Photo, 1280x541) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/X2R0kXVd/file_43950.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x255) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ssa6wM66/file_43951.jpg
[14:01] <TheBigK> isomari: there are certainly considerations... im not even sure if its supported to directly upgrade to 21.04 ?
[14:01] <TheBigK> isomari: one obvious one is its no lts anymore. so only 9 months support
[14:02] <isomari> TheBigK: understood. I thik I'll just stick with focal for now
[14:02] <TheBigK> im using 21.04 ... but i dont mind to upgrade every 6 months
[14:03] <isomari> does wayland support nvidia yet?
[14:04] <TheBigK> Eunoia86 why would u add a mirror which u already have
[14:07] <TheBigK> check /var/log/apt/history.log for what exactly is removed and installed. that might hint u where the wrong version is installed. something is still wrong which hasnt been recovered yet
[14:11] <isomari> can I choose xorg from the login screen in  21.04? I don't think wayland supports my nvidia.
[14:14] <TheBigK> yes it does
[14:14] <TheBigK> but u need a kernel option
[14:15] <TheBigK> edit /etc/default/grub and put this in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[14:15] <TheBigK> nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[14:15] <isomari> TheBigK: you mean it's not transparent? I can't just upgrade and choose xorg from the login dropdown?
[14:16] <TheBigK> ofc u can choose which session u wanna select. but nvidia and wayland u need that parameter to have it work
[14:16] <TheBigK> and then u do update-grub to write that config
[14:17] <TheBigK> but i cant recommend wayland on kubuntu... its kinda buggy still
[14:17] <TheBigK> its good that the defualt user session is still x11
[14:17] <TheBigK> especially when it comes to gaming
[14:18] <TheBigK> its usable which is quite cool. but for me its not usable that i would use it on a daily basis
[14:19] <TheBigK> but it gets better with every kubuntu release
[14:19] <TheBigK> and thats quite cool
 (Photo, 1280x386) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/NkBTN8bL/file_43953.jpg This is what i miss, the whole problem
 If i have those, everything is fine
[14:23] <isomari> ok. So if I'm not using wayland on 21.04 I don't have to do anything other than choose xorg from the menu?
[14:23] <TheBigK> thats also the case with 20.04
 I must get apt first before all, so i can update the system and anything else missed would be downloaded and installed
[14:24] <TheBigK> but for nvidia module to work u need that module setting which i told u about
 BUT I CAN'T
[14:24] <isomari> I ever noticed if there was a wayland option on 20.04
[14:24] <TheBigK> isomari: assuming u have the wayland packages installed its there... :)
[14:25] <isomari> ok, so where can I get the howto to get nvidia working on wayland?
[14:25] <isomari> for 20.04
 @Eunoia86, I got this after typing  … Sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:25] <TheBigK> i pretty much gave u the tldr of it.. didnt u read that?
[14:26] <TheBigK> isomari: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland/Nvidia
[14:26] <isomari> thanks
[14:27] <TheBigK> Eunoia86 : do u have those 4 packages as a package on ur filesystem
[14:29] <TheBigK> then u should be aple to install them using dpkg
[14:33] <kroson> Hey guys, whats up? I'd like to ask if anyone is having problems (crashes) with LibreOffice, particularly on Impress, on Kubuntu specifically (doesn't happen in GTK-based environments). It just crashes with me after using it for a while, it is not a fixed time, just by doing this and that or Alt-TAB between windows will make LO crash. This happens both in 20.10 and 21.04 for me. Is anyone experiencing the same issue? Tks in advance
 @Eunoia86, Nah, i tried to download them, but it says that in status
 @TheBigK, I have arch package installer
[21:12] <Guest_82> Hello
[23:37] <Guest88262> My installer just crashed with "shim-signed#015". This is second time in a row.