[12:28] <hyper_ch> !linksys
[12:28] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[12:30] <swhalen> !linksys
[12:30] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[12:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWPC54GS-UK
[12:30] <swhalen> how do i configure the network after install?
[12:30] <swhalen> i dont see a GUI?
[12:32] <swhalen> Will this work with the US ed?
[12:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> US ed?
[12:39] <kalikiana> swhalen: sudo network-admin
[12:51] <swhalen> the laptop dosnt have net access
[12:52] <swhalen> where can a download these packages to put on cd?
[12:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <ilya_yakubovich> hey guys, is there a way to make the icon grid on the desktop less coarse?
[01:29] <kalikiana> If you mean "being able to move icons freely", then no.
[01:31] <ilya_yakubovich> ah. is there a bug report for this?
[01:31] <snook353> i edited /etc/x11/gconf.config, changing the ZAxisMapping and mouse device.  it needs me to edit the file in the terminal, without mousepad.  what line is the zaxismapping on?
[01:32] <kalikiana> ilya_yakubovich, I believe that 'problem' will be gone when Thunar manages the desktop in a later version.
[01:33] <snook353> !gconf.config
[01:33] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[01:33] <snook353> !gconf
[01:33] <ubotwo> gconf - GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools) - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[01:33] <ilya_yakubovich> snook353: isn't the ZAxisMapping in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:34] <snook353> oh, yeah, wrong file.  bad memory
[01:34] <ilya_yakubovich> in this case, you can't tell for sure where the line is. should be around the end.
[01:34] <ilya_yakubovich> use nano to edit it in the command line.
[01:34] <snook353> so, sudo nan0 .... ?
[01:34] <ilya_yakubovich> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:34] <snook353> ok, thanks
[01:35] <ilya_yakubovich> no prob
[01:36] <snook353> Oh!  and what should zaxismapping be set to - what is the number?
[01:36] <snook353> (i had 1, probably wrong)
[01:37] <snook353> "4 5"?
[01:38] <snook353> i should probably change the identifier back the configured mouse, instead of USB Mouse
[01:38] <snook353> i think i should have put "usb" in place of PS/2 instead of hte identifier
[01:38] <snook353> to fix my trackball
[01:39] <snook353> ok, yeah, "4 5"
[02:06] <superkirbyartist> What ports must I use for USB joystick?
[02:17] <snook353> is there a way to reinstall x11 without losing my home directory?  what about revert to an unedite x11/xorg.conf file?
[02:19] <kalikiana> You can change xorg.conf with no risk of losing your files of course - but you should know how to get back in case you break it. ;)
[02:20] <kalikiana> And of course, a backup before critical changes is recommended anyway.
[02:20] <snook353> yeah, but i was only chaging my mouse/trackball
[02:21] <snook353> can i just apt-get x11?
[02:22] <snook353> should i have changed my mouse from "Options Explorer PS/2" to ....USB"?
[02:22] <snook353> in xorg.conf
[02:22] <snook353> P2/S?
[02:23] <snook353> is there a way to burn a cd in the terminal?  it won't recognize my usb, i don't think
[02:23] <snook353> or my floppy
[02:23] <kalikiana> snook353: what about 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:23] <snook353> usb isn't in /media
[02:24] <snook353> ok! lol
[02:24] <kalikiana> you can always mount your drive manually :)
[02:25] <kalikiana> and yes, burning from cli is possible, but I don't know the command(s) by heart
[03:16] <psykidellic> hyper_ch: sorry I dozed off while installing, have not been able to sleep properly due to work in university
[03:16] <psykidellic> hyper_ch: I just got up after 2 hours and it still stuck at 85%
[03:16] <psykidellic> what could be the problem?
[03:18] <maxamillion> psykidellic: ooohhh, i know that issue ... here's the work around ... use the "install command line system" and then when its done, reboot and "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" ... there is some issue with a japanese font renderer (or something of the sort)
[03:19] <psykidellic> sorry i didnt get you......
[03:19] <psykidellic> do i need to restart the installation again?
[03:19] <psykidellic> maxamillion: BTW, I figured out the problem yesterday, I was putting my HDD as slave yesterday and thus it could not find the harddisk....now HDD is working fine and I was able to start the installation....
[03:20] <Jester45> psykidellic: yes you have to restart and i think you have ot restart the whole computer
[03:20] <psykidellic> aah got it
[03:20] <psykidellic> i just did that and selected the "install command line system" option
[03:20] <Jester45> psykidellic: you install a cli only system so it will be faster
[03:21] <Jester45> then later you install full gui
[03:21] <maxamillion> psykidellic: ah, well that's good ... atleast you found the issue
[03:21] <psykidellic> understood....into installing cli system :)
[03:22] <psykidellic> i dont know but I am having issues after one another....there is a network card in the machine but now the installer says that it cant find a network interface...
[03:24] <maxamillion> psykidellic: yeah, that's something else we can work with ... might have something to do with the network interface's chipset
[03:24] <psykidellic> hmmmm
[03:24] <psykidellic> so should i just ignore it right now?
[03:25] <maxamillion> psykidellic: yeah... should be fine, not a whole lot can do about it during install
[03:26] <psykidellic> hmmm.....okie, another question (sorry but I have no experience working on command line like this before)
[03:26] <psykidellic> the hard disk is 13GB one
[03:27] <psykidellic> right now the installer says that its divided into two partition (from old config)
[03:27] <psykidellic> #1 primary with 12.5GB formatted in ext3
[03:27] <Jester45> thats right
[03:27] <psykidellic> #5 logical 559 MB swap
[03:27] <Jester45> the 2nd is 500mb of swap
[03:27] <psykidellic> wats that?
[03:27] <Jester45> close
[03:28] <Jester45> do you know about RAM
[03:28] <Jester45> are you from windows?
[03:28] <psykidellic> i just want one partition with the OS, i have another 320 gb external which i will be using for my data
[03:28] <psykidellic> i am from windows but been using Mac for last 6 months as my only desktop
[03:28] <Jester45> i think you have to have swap
[03:28] <psykidellic> but now i am want touse Linux for some work
[03:28] <maxamillion> psykidellic: just let the auto partitioner do its thing
[03:28] <Jester45> ok you know the windows pagefile?
[03:28] <psykidellic> yup
[03:29] <Jester45> maxamillion: you need a swap right
[03:29] <maxamillion> Jester45: yes
[03:29] <psykidellic> aha
[03:29] <psykidellic> i didnt know that!
[03:29] <Jester45> psykidellic: the pagefile is swap its like RAM on your drive
[03:29] <Jester45> just let it go
[03:29] <Jester45> 500 is normal
[03:29] <psykidellic> but while installing Windows, i never had those option so was just wondering L(
[03:29] <psykidellic> :)
[03:29] <Jester45> im using 99mb of it but i use that much after start up
[03:30] <maxamillion> psykidellic: rule of thumb is that swap is twice the ram unless you have atleast 1gb of ram ... then you just need as much swap as you have ram
[03:30] <Jester45> maxamillion: what about 2gb should i have 2gb swap?
[03:30] <psykidellic> well i have only 512 MB RAM
[03:31] <maxamillion> Jester45: doesn't have to ... but that's what i'm used to
[03:31] <psykidellic> i plan to add 1gB later as soon as i get paid for this month
[03:31] <maxamillion> psykidellic: its just a rule of thumb... the algorithm that auto calculates it knows what its doing, the devs make sure of it ;)
[03:31] <psykidellic> aaah
[03:31] <psykidellic> nice
[03:32] <psykidellic> btw, thanks for all the help....you people have been really helpful......
[03:32] <psykidellic> never knew IRC was so much fun, I am used to using forums :)
[03:32] <psykidellic> now i am talking to you using a Mac port of X Chat and installing Linux on a machine sitting left of me :)
[03:33] <maxamillion> psykidellic: anytime :)
[03:33] <Jester45> what gateway maxamillion
[03:33] <maxamillion> psykidellic: oooo, xchat aqua? ...
[03:33] <psykidellic> yeah
[03:34] <psykidellic> its not exactly a port
[03:34] <maxamillion> Jester45: well, your gateway should be <IP_ADDRESS> ... depends on who manufactured your router though
[03:34] <psykidellic> a new development using Cocoa but the idea come from x-chat
[03:34] <Jester45> so its the router
[03:34] <psykidellic> jester45: yeah, its the router
[03:34] <Jester45> kk
[03:34] <psykidellic> i think during the first installation of the router yo ucan set up the IP
[03:34] <maxamillion> psykidellic: i used to run os x ... i had an iBookG4, but i ran linux on it for 6 months until i had to sell it to buy text books and i used xchat aqua on it ... but now that i'm back on linux i use irssi
[03:34] <psykidellic> i have <IP_ADDRESS> and my frnd has <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <Jester45> i have 0.1
[03:35] <psykidellic> too bad you had to sell it
[03:35] <psykidellic> jester45: 0.1 is fine
[03:35] <psykidellic> i love my Intel Macbook....superb :)
[03:35] <Jester45> my medoa is 1.1
[03:35] <psykidellic> i have not restarted it for 6 month now!
[03:35] <Jester45> lol
[03:35] <Jester45> thats not good for lappys
[03:36] <psykidellic> is it?
[03:36] <maxamillion> psykidellic: yeah ... linksys does <IP_ADDRESS>, netgear does <IP_ADDRESS>, dlink does <IP_ADDRESS> and they even switch things up between models ... so ... erm, its weird
[03:36] <psykidellic> but i put it on sleep everynight~
[03:36] <maxamillion> psykidellic: its alright, you could just burn the lcd or the power supply out
[03:36] <maxamillion> psykidellic: oh, then thats fine
[03:37] <maxamillion> psykidellic: yeah ... my next laptop will probably be an intel macbook ... dual boot xubuntu and os x
[03:37] <psykidellic> and the best thing is that i can run almost all X app too using the X11 port for Mac e..g i use this SoulSeek for Linux client on Mac - Nicotine....
[03:37] <psykidellic> its little slow but it does the work!
[03:37] <psykidellic> anyway, its a xubuntu room....i should not praise Mac OS :)
[03:38] <maxamillion> yeah, if you ever really wanted to (costs a little money) you could run parallels for mac and run linux in the virtual machine so you can have both at once :)
[03:38] <psykidellic> oh i have parallels
[03:38] <maxamillion> rock on
[03:39] <psykidellic> i sometime run Windows but since I just bought 1gb ram....it just kills my system...i need to upgrade it to 2gb before i can do anything!
[03:39] <psykidellic> i dont have money for that though :)
[03:40] <maxamillion> psykidellic: wow ... the laptop i am on runs 512mb of ram and xubuntu flies on it ... todays comercial software has gotten so sad
[03:40] <psykidellic> and now i need money to buy extra memory for my desktop.....luckily the CPU was given by my dept. at school....so i can have a desktop now....definitely i am not going back to Windows world in my life now!
[03:41] <psykidellic> which laptop do you have?
[03:41] <maxamillion> psykidellic: its one i checked out from work, uber hunk of junk .. its a dell latitude 110L
[03:44] <psykidellic> actually i was planning to install kubuntu but my dept. chair has a cluster of 250 machines all running xubuntu and it works great for him
[03:44] <psykidellic> so i went ahead with xubuntu....
[03:44] <somerville32> Wait wait...
[03:44] <somerville32> You have a dept.chair running 250 machines with Xubuntu?
[03:44] <maxamillion> yeah ... i need his contact info
[03:45] <psykidellic> actually associate chair :)
[03:45] <maxamillion> errr... somerville32 does
[03:45] <somerville32> lol
[03:45] <maxamillion> well, we both do
[03:45] <maxamillion> psykidellic: what kind of department? ... computer science?
[03:45] <psykidellic> yup
[03:45] <somerville32> Cool! :)
[03:45] <psykidellic> but i am not sure if it would be OK to give the contact info....
[03:46] <somerville32> Yeah, I don't think it would be ok either without asking
[03:46] <somerville32> What does he use it for anyhow?
[03:46] <psykidellic> but i woukd love to have XGL on my xubuntu: http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl
[03:46] <psykidellic> its so cool...has anybody used it?
[03:46] <maxamillion> psykidellic: i use it at work
[03:46] <psykidellic> on xubuntu?
[03:47] <maxamillion> psykidellic: except i use AiGLX with Beryl .... yes, Xubuntu
[03:47] <psykidellic> oh my school has a big ass medical dept. (top 5 in US)
[03:47] <psykidellic> so they have lot of bio medical work...and most of it is done my the CS dept....
[03:47] <psykidellic> so he does research reated to bio medicine
[03:47] <maxamillion> psykidellic: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:47] <psykidellic> and needs lot of computing power
[03:48] <psykidellic> i have talked to him and he has actually hand built the whole cluster....amaing and knowledgeable guy :)
[03:48] <maxamillion> psykidellic: the guides walk you through how to set things up depending on your setup and you are able to edit config files (which it tells you how to do) to make it default
[03:49] <psykidellic> hmmm...how does it stack up to Xgi?
[03:49] <psykidellic> good?
[03:49] <psykidellic> sorry...Xgl
[03:49] <maxamillion> psykidellic: well ... you can use XGL with it ... i just prefer AiGLX
[03:49] <maxamillion> psykidellic: check the link, it lets you pick XGL
[03:49] <psykidellic> aaah
[03:49] <psykidellic> its like that...i will do some resaerch then
[03:50] <psykidellic> tahnks for the link
[03:50] <maxamillion> psykidellic: what the difference isn't XGL or AiGLX.. that is just how the 3d is rendered, what the difference is beryl or compiz
[03:50] <maxamillion> psykidellic: for xubuntu ... i recommend beryl, its more open .... compiz is rather gnome-centric
[03:50] <somerville32> psykidellic: re: cluster. Maybe they'd like to purchase support from Canonical? It seems like your cluster is pretty important.
[03:50] <psykidellic> hahahahaahahahah
[03:50] <somerville32> </canonical plug>
[03:50] <psykidellic> i dont think he will
[03:51] <psykidellic> he has been running similar clusters for like 10 yrs now
[03:51] <maxamillion> sounds like my kind of guy
[03:51] <somerville32> hehe
[03:51] <psykidellic> not always xubuntu but some other form of *nix...he is the most amaxing Linux guy i  have seen in life!
[03:52] <maxamillion> psykidellic: sounds pretty impressive
[03:52] <somerville32> psykidellic, You should get him to come for a visit sometime :)
[03:52] <Jester45> maxamillion: it didntwork
[03:53] <psykidellic> i would tell him next time i meet him :)
[03:53] <psykidellic> okie...i got the tty terminal now...
[03:53] <psykidellic> network card is not installed....ifconfig just gives me loopback interface....
[03:53] <maxamillion> w00t
[03:53] <shenmue> hi
[03:53] <psykidellic> shenmue: hello
[03:53] <maxamillion> shenmue: hello
[03:53] <somerville32> Hi shenmue :)
[03:54] <shenmue> anyone knows a better icon theme of xfce4?
[03:54] <Jester45> psykidellic: menu --> system --> networking
[03:54] <psykidellic> menu???????
[03:54] <psykidellic> i am on CLI?
[03:54] <maxamillion> shenmue: you can download bunches from www.xfce-look.org
[03:54] <shenmue> the default theme is a little ugly
[03:55] <psykidellic> i bookmarked that link too :)
[03:55] <maxamillion> psykidellic: awesome
[03:55] <Jester45> o sorry
[03:55] <shenmue> maxamillion: i'd prefer a icon theme within a ubuntu/debian package
[03:55] <maxamillion> shenmue: no clue ...
[03:55] <maxamillion> i am actually gonna run .... bbl
[03:56] <psykidellic> so somebody knows how to install and get the network card running from CLI?
[03:56] <psykidellic> or any pointers?
[03:56] <shenmue> maxamillion: you use the standrad icon theme?
[03:57] <shenmue> psykidellic: do u have the network card module in your kenrel?
[03:58] <Jester45> shenmue: he just installed a command lind only install
[03:59] <psykidellic> i dont know if that was installed while CLI install
[03:59] <`r0x`> re
[03:59] <shenmue> Jester45: just install base system?
[03:59] <psykidellic> yup
[04:00] <psykidellic> otherwise it was getting stuck at 8%% all the ime
[04:00] <somerville32> What card do you have?
[04:00] <psykidellic> hold on... actually i dont know.....
[04:00] <Jester45> shenmue: he cant...well cd should work
[04:00] <psykidellic> anywhere that i can look at and tell you?
[04:00] <shenmue> psykidellic: run "lspci", see if it shows words like "Ethernet controller"
[04:01] <psykidellic> hold on
[04:01] <psykidellic> nothing
[04:01] <shenmue> Jester45: maybe he can try a livecd
[04:02] <Jester45> shenmue: he get an bug that stops the install at 85%
[04:02] <shenmue> psykidellic: then i guess kernel cannot find your card module
[04:02] <shenmue> Jester45: did he try other distro before?
[04:02] <psykidellic> hmm
[04:02] <psykidellic> nope
[04:03] <psykidellic> shenmue: you can ask me the question directly :)
[04:03] <shenmue> psykidellic: maybe you can use a livecd, see if your card work properly
[04:04] <somerville32> psykidellic, First off, you can add the alternative cd as a source and install the gui, if you'd like
[04:05] <psykidellic> i just checked
[04:05] <psykidellic> its  a 3com card
[04:05] <psykidellic> i opened up the cabinet
[04:05] <Jester45> would anyone here want to help me set up my static ip i know the subnet and gateway but im not sure what to so with ip
[04:05] <psykidellic> ip of your machine?
[04:05] <psykidellic> i generally let the router to assign my machine the ip
[04:06] <Jester45> but i need static
[04:06] <psykidellic> in the last 6 months
[04:06] <psykidellic> it has always given me the same IP
[04:06] <shenmue> Jester45: you can call the system admin
[04:06] <psykidellic> same with my 3 other roommates
[04:06] <psykidellic> but i remember
[04:06] <psykidellic> on RH
[04:06] <psykidellic> you could set up the IP if you wanted static......thru the network interface GUI
[04:06] <Jester45> shenmue: ?
[04:07] <Jester45> psykidellic: um yea im doing that but i dont know what ip to use i tried the oen i auto got but that didnt work
[04:07] <Jester45> maybe i should restart router
[04:08] <shenmue> Jester45: i thought you were in a company....
[04:08] <psykidellic> generally...as thumb of rule...
[04:08] <psykidellic> if say the router has 0.1
[04:09] <psykidellic> the computers setup like
[04:09] <psykidellic> 0.2, 0.3 and so on
[04:09] <psykidellic> thats what we follow at our room
[04:09] <Jester45> no no no i know all my LAN ip i dont know what to use as outside ip
[04:10] <Jester45> my ip is 0.100
[04:10] <psykidellic> outside ip??????
[04:10] <psykidellic> you mean you want to access your macjine from outside?????
[04:11] <Jester45> yes thats the point of a server
[04:11] <psykidellic> aaah...that you cant do.....because the router is assigned dynamic IP from your ISP
[04:11] <psykidellic> what you can do is then install
[04:11] <psykidellic> dyndns....
[04:11] <psykidellic> and then use hostname to connect...thats what i do with my mac laptop....
[04:11] <psykidellic> i cant access it directly from IP
[04:12] <psykidellic> but i am not sure how to assign an proper IP if you have one....sorry on that part :)
[04:12] <Jester45> i should be able to
[04:12] <somerville32> Ok
[04:12] <psykidellic> i hv never configured a server like that before :)
[04:12] <somerville32> psykidellic, I need the exact model.
[04:13] <psykidellic> hold on
[04:13] <somerville32> Jester45:You can configure your router to assign a static ip
[04:13] <somerville32> Jester45: Or you can port forward based on the hostname of the machine
[04:13] <Jester45> somerville32: all my ports are open i just want a static ip
[04:14] <psykidellic> somerville32: parallel tasking II
[04:14] <somerville32> Jester45: How are they all open?
[04:14] <psykidellic> somerville32: 3com 40-0483-004
[04:15] <psykidellic> somerville32: 0129T 782 40557
[04:15] <Jester45> somerville32: DMZ all data that the router isnt sure where to put it gose to my machine
[04:15] <psykidellic> somerville32: AGERE 40-04834
[04:15] <Jester45> so when say somthing tries to connect at 5000 and no ports are forwarded then i get the data
[04:15] <psykidellic> thats all that is written on the network card chip
[04:16] <somerville32> Jester45: So you've already dmzed the computer?
[04:16] <Jester45> yes
[04:16] <Jester45> but i want a static ip
[04:16] <Jester45> so i can remeber it
[04:16] <somerville32> psykidellic, 3com Fast EtherLink XL 3C905B-TX 10/100 PCI Wake on lan
[04:17] <shenmue> Jester45: you can assign your ip to your mac address in your router,maybe
[04:18] <psykidellic> probably
[04:18] <psykidellic> i dont know
[04:18] <psykidellic> so how do i get it running now?
[04:18] <Jester45> wanna help with that?
[04:18] <psykidellic> as i would have to be connected to Internet to do apt-get
[04:19] <Jester45> psykidellic: no you dont
[04:19] <psykidellic> is it?
[04:19] <psykidellic> i always had this idea that apt-get gets from the global debian/ubuntu branch
[04:19] <Jester45> psykidellic: you can use a cd or transfer a .deb file
[04:20] <Jester45> psykidellic: it will noramly
[04:20] <psykidellic> hmmm
[04:20] <psykidellic> so how do i get the network card running?
[04:20] <psykidellic> i mean let xubuntu detect it?
[04:20] <Jester45> i dont know
[04:21] <somerville32> psykidellic, Try: sudo modprobe 3c59x
[04:21] <psykidellic> did nothing
[04:21] <somerville32> What do you mean by "did nothing"?
[04:22] <psykidellic> it just came back to next command
[04:23] <somerville32> try ifconfig now
[04:23] <psykidellic> did
[04:23] <somerville32> not listed?
[04:23] <psykidellic> same...only loopback interface
[04:23] <psykidellic> no eth0
[04:24] <somerville32> Time to take a visit to Donald Becker's website
[04:25] <shenmue> psykidellic: ifconfig eth0 up?
[04:25] <psykidellic> hold on
[04:25] <somerville32> oh, right right
[04:25] <psykidellic> error while getting iterface flags: no such device
[04:29] <psykidellic> strange!
[04:31] <somerville32> psykidellic,
[04:31] <somerville32> http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linuxdownload.htm
[04:32] <psykidellic> i found the page by googling
[04:32] <psykidellic> but i dont know
[04:32] <psykidellic> which one to us
[04:32] <psykidellic> use
[04:33] <somerville32> http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linux/3c90x-102.tar.gz
[04:33] <somerville32> I would guess
[04:33] <psykidellic> thx
[04:34] <somerville32> Can you get that onto your linux computer?
[04:34] <psykidellic> i dont know how
[04:34] <psykidellic> i have a usb drive
[04:34] <psykidellic> i could try that way
[04:34] <psykidellic> maybe tomorrow morning as I have to run now....
[04:35] <psykidellic> thx for all the help...i am reaky happy that i am shifting to xubuntu :)
[04:37] <somerville32> :)
[04:37] <somerville32> np
[04:37] <somerville32> Thanks for stopping in! :)
[05:02] <spo> Hi everybody
[05:03] <spo> Anyone want to lend an xubuntu noob a hand?
[05:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> What's the problem?
[05:05] <spo> I did something stupid, i deleted panel1 from the panels (meant to kill panel 2)  any way to get the default panel 1 back?
[05:07] <spo> I tried re-installing, no luck with that.   Are there any config files i should manually remove before reinstalling xubuntu?
[05:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If you right-click on the remaining panel, does one of the menu entries say 'add new panel'?
[05:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (I can't check, since I'm using Gnome right now.)
[05:08] <spo> I'm in gnome right now too
[05:08] <spo> sry
[05:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Well, there you go.
[05:08] <BlueEagle> hehe
[05:08] <spo> lol
[05:11] <spo> i'll switch over to an xubuntu session and brb.  Sorry bout that.
[05:15] <spo> ok back,  sorry again.   The remaining panel doesn't have an "add new panel" option, although you can add new panels in the panel manager.   The problem is that when you add a new panel it is just a blank one.
[05:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can add items as wanted; menus, notification areas, clocks, applets, and so forth.
[05:21] <somerville32> spo: Did you delete the top or bottom panel?
[05:22] <spo> bottom
[05:22] <spo> unfortunately
[05:22] <somerville32> Ok
[05:22] <somerville32> Add a new panel on the bottom
[05:23] <spo> k
[05:23] <somerville32> The three applets on the panel by default is...
[05:23] <somerville32> Show Desktop
[05:23] <somerville32> Task List
[05:23] <somerville32> and; Pager
[05:24] <spo> ok,  how about that launcher that has all of the programs listed?  Is there any way to set that back up? I noticed the desktop menu has all of that in it
[05:28] <spo> hehehe, i should probably just live with using the desktop menu.   That'll teach me to go deleting panels.  hehehe
[05:30] <spo> Thanks for helping me to get the task list back up somerville32, that was driving me nuts.
[05:30] <somerville32> That is usually on the top panel
[05:30] <somerville32> The menu applet that is
[05:30] <spo> hmmmm
[05:30] <somerville32> By desktop menu, do you mean right clicking the desktop?
[05:30] <spo> yeah, that's what i meant by desktop menu
[05:31] <spo> Oh cripes, i moved the top to the bottom... ugh
[05:31] <somerville32> Yes, the menu applet (the one that sides in the panel) is on the top panel by default
[05:31] <somerville32> *sits
[05:31] <spo> that's where the confusion came in.  I moved top to bottom and deleted the bottom one (which is default at the top)
[05:31] <somerville32> ah, lol
[05:31] <somerville32> hehe
[05:32] <spo> lol, i dug myself one heck of a hole here
[05:32] <somerville32> It is possible to readd the menu yes
[05:32] <somerville32> It is the last item in the applet list
[05:32] <somerville32> Xfce menu
[05:32] <spo> ahhhhhhhhhh... awesome.  just what i was looking for
[05:33] <somerville32> If you want the original menu icon
[05:33] <somerville32> You can find it in /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:33] <somerville32> xubuntu-logo.png or something like that
[05:33] <spo> awesome.  thank you.
[05:34] <somerville32> No problem :)
[05:34] <somerville32> Do you use Edgy or Dapper?
[05:34] <somerville32> Hi poisonpotion :)
[05:34] <spo> I beleive it's dapper, the LTS one
[05:34] <somerville32> spo: Right.
[05:35] <somerville32> In Edgy, there is a new desktop context menu. :)
[05:35] <spo> Ahhhh, is it a lot different from dapper?
[05:35] <poisonpotion> i'm downloading 6.10 iso, 1 more hour to go
[05:35] <somerville32> spo: Debatable, lol
[05:35] <spo> hehehe
[05:35] <somerville32> spo: It is more "edgy", if you know what I mean
[05:36] <spo> Vista,  what?
[05:36] <somerville32> However, Feisty (the current development version) is looking awesome.
[05:37] <spo> Do you think i should wait for feisty before i go for an upgrade?
[05:37] <somerville32> spo: Well, you can't upgrade to Feisty from dapper.
[05:37] <somerville32> You would have to upgrade to Edgy and then Feisty
[05:37] <spo> gotcha
[05:37] <somerville32> If you experience any issues with Edgy, I'm sure we could help you out.
[05:37] <somerville32> I guess it is a choice you'll have to make, hehe
[05:38] <spo> I might as well bite the bullet soon.
[05:38] <somerville32> It isn't that bad
[05:38] <somerville32> hehe
[05:38] <spo> If it's anything like dapper I'm sure I'll like it.
[05:40] <spo> Oh well, thank you again for all the help somerville.  I'm off to fiddle around a little more.
[05:40] <somerville32> :)
[05:41] <somerville32> Feel free to idle in here!
[05:41] <somerville32> :)
[05:41] <spo> eh, might as well...
[05:41] <spo> :)
[05:58] <poisonpotion> heh somerville32 you're 32nd in google result for "xubuntu community"
[05:58] <somerville32> lol
[05:58] <somerville32> Interesting
[06:03] <somerville32> I don't see me
[06:04] <somerville32> poisonpotion, Can you join #xubuntu-offtopic ? :)
[06:06] <cellofellow> I have this problem. My mom uses Juno email. I'm trying to get it set up in Sylpheed-Claws, and the SMTP does work, but POP download doesn't It does authenticate, at least I think it does, but it downloads nothing. (Thunderbird does the same thing.)
[06:08] <cellofellow> any ides?
[06:08] <somerville32> I'm guessing you configure it wrong
[06:09] <somerville32> : )
[06:09] <cellofellow> well, yeah, but Juno's no help.
[06:12] <cellofellow> well, it's not an SSL problem. Turning on SSL just made it worse.
[06:15] <somerville32> Yuck : (
[06:17] <cellofellow> Juno is crap.
[06:42] <SergoTT> hello
[06:42] <Jester45> hi
[06:43] <SergoTT> Jester45 you are 45 years old?
[06:43] <SergoTT> -)
[06:43] <Jester45> sure
[06:43] <Jester45> im 16
[06:44] <SergoTT> i wanted to ask if under xubuntu are security updates?
[06:45] <cellofellow> I got one today.
[06:45] <Jester45> yes xubuntu has updates
[06:45] <cellofellow> They happen with Ubuntu and the rest of the stuff.
[06:45] <Jester45> if ubuntu gets an update so will xubuntu
[06:46] <cellofellow> well, if it's a GNOME update, then just by virtue of the updated app not being installed, the update won't transfer.
[06:46] <Jester45> unless
[06:47] <Jester45> you have gnome on xubuntu
[06:47] <cellofellow> SergoTT: BUT you have to have the <version>-security repositories enabled.
[06:47] <SergoTT> i still have no distro:)
[06:47] <somerville32> SergoTT, You're still running Windows? :)
[06:48] <Jester45> w00t cellofellow i got 4 updates i win
[06:48] <cellofellow> I got like 5.
[06:48] <SergoTT> somerville32 yes
[06:48] <somerville32> SergoTT, And you're interested in installing a linux distribution? :)
[06:49] <SergoTT> yes, but under windows is an video-game without i can't live
[06:50] <SergoTT> :))
[06:50] <Jester45> it could work with linux
[06:50] <SergoTT> and i dunno how to forget about this game
[06:50] <SergoTT> and istall linux
[06:50] <Jester45> whats it called
[06:50] <cellofellow> well, dual-boot is always an option
[06:50] <SergoTT> Jester45 in full window mode?
[06:50] <SergoTT> The game is counter-strike 1.6:)
[06:51] <somerville32> Counter strike, luckily, runs on Linux!! :)
[06:52] <Jester45> thats what i was gonna check
[06:52] <cellofellow> checked the winehq app database?
[06:52] <somerville32> No
[06:52] <somerville32> CS runs on Linux natively
[06:52] <DarthLappy> somerville32: Wha!?
[06:53] <cellofellow> sweet
[06:53] <SergoTT> then i will install xubuntu
[06:53] <somerville32> SergoTT, What video card do you have?
[06:54] <aktee> hey people :)
[06:54] <SergoTT> 64mb
[06:54] <Jester45> nvidia or ati
[06:54] <Jester45> what model
[06:54] <cellofellow> nvidia, ati, intel?
[06:54] <SergoTT> this is only i know about my video card
[06:54] <SergoTT> hm
[06:55] <somerville32> SergoTT, Your card should support 3d acceleration on Linux if you want to play CS happily
[06:55] <SergoTT> i think intell
[06:55] <cellofellow> intel is usually shared memory and for laptops
[06:55] <SergoTT> my card support opengl
[06:55] <cellofellow> and computers without a real video card
[06:55] <cellofellow> well, yeah
[06:55] <SergoTT> i use laptop:)
[06:55] <DarthLappy> somerville32: How do you play it natively?
[06:56] <Jester45> SergoTT: is it integrated or a card
[06:56] <somerville32> DarthLappy: Counter Strike uses the steam engine which is open source.
[06:56] <Jester45> DarthLappy: many games run on linux native
[06:56] <DarthLappy> This is news to me.
[06:56] <DarthLappy> Jester45: I know that >_>
[06:56] <cellofellow> is the game OSS on linux, or will he have to buy again?
[06:57] <Jester45> he donesnt have to rebuy
[06:57] <DarthLappy> I only have stuff on Steam.
[06:57] <Jester45> http://liflg.org/?catid=6
[06:57] <Jester45> all those run native
[06:58] <Jester45> <a href="http://liflg.org/?catid=7">wine/cedega</a> run with wine
[06:58] <Jester45> sorry if links are messed up
[06:59] <somerville32> cellofellow, No. You just have to copy the data files over.
[06:59] <somerville32> It is the same with Quake
[06:59] <somerville32> The engine is open source
[06:59] <cellofellow> ah, ok
[06:59] <somerville32> I just installed the engine and copied over the data files from my windows partition
[06:59] <somerville32> and voila!
[07:00] <Jester45> cool
[07:00] <SergoTT> ok, thanks to all
[07:00] <somerville32> So half life will run on Linux natively too
[07:01] <DarthLappy> somerville32: Which version?
[07:01] <DarthLappy> Original/Source?
[07:02] <somerville32> Ermm... Source?
[07:02] <DarthLappy> The purdyful one?
[07:02] <somerville32> I dunno
[07:02] <somerville32> I could be completely wrong about it all
[07:03] <DarthLappy> Hmm.
[07:03] <somerville32> This is just my understanding of it, lol
[07:03] <DarthLappy> Hhe.
[07:03] <DarthLappy> Heh*
[07:07] <Jester45> how many fps do you get
[07:08] <somerville32> I don't play any games at all
[07:09] <somerville32> Not recently atleast
[07:09] <Jester45> o
[07:42] <Jester45> celfellow needed some sleep
[07:46] <somerville32> me too :)
[07:47] <Jester45> me 3
[07:47] <Jester45> jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org is my site
[07:48] <Jester45> the home page explains it all
[07:50] <Jester45> its kinda ontopic
[07:50] <Jester45> because i needed help getting somthing static
[07:52] <Jester45> well
[07:52] <Jester45> im getting off
[09:33] <hyper_ch> hiho
[09:33] <hyper_ch> anyone actually knows how to enable numlock upon boot?
[09:36] <somerville32> I know there is a way
[09:36] <somerville32> !numlock
[09:36] <ubotwo> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[09:36] <somerville32> :D
[09:37] <malnilion> You know what really impresses me?
[09:37] <malnilion> wine
[09:37] <somerville32> :D
[09:37] <malnilion> Wine has come such a long way since I used it like 3 years ago.
[09:39] <somerville32> It has :]
[10:23] <Tree> im stalking stork
[10:23] <somerville32> Tree: Hmm?
[10:25] <Maximilian1st> Good morning somerville32 , well... good evening for you.
[10:25] <somerville32> lol
[10:25] <somerville32> It is 5:30am here
[10:26] <Maximilian1st> I thought you were in texas?
[10:26] <Maximilian1st> I must be confusing ...
[10:26] <Maximilian1st> It is 10h30 am here in switzerland
[10:26] <somerville32> Thats Adam
[10:27] <Maximilian1st> Will the new Xfce 4.4 be included in xubuntu? It is released this week-end.
[10:29] <TheSheep> over my dead body!
[10:29] <somerville32> Maximilian1st, lol, of course
[10:29] <Maximilian1st> :-)
[10:29] <TheSheep> hey, domain name zfce.org is free! :)
[10:30] <Maximilian1st> lol
[10:30] <Maximilian1st> and yfce?
[10:30] <TheSheep> ymca
[10:30] <Maximilian1st> but y fce?
[10:30] <TheSheep> we should make ybuntu for ymca
[10:30] <Maximilian1st> :-p
[10:31] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: how do you know it's this weekend? The sites are silent...
[10:31] <somerville32> It was announced
[10:31] <somerville32> I knew it was being released this weekend too
[10:31] <TheSheep> somerville32: where?
[10:31] <TheSheep> somerville32: -dev mailing list?
[10:31] <somerville32> The 21st was the tentative date set earlier this month
[10:32] <Maximilian1st> They are sticking to the date. TheSheep mailing lists
[10:33] <TheSheep> now I won't sleep :/
[10:33] <Maximilian1st> Guys do you package the kernel for xubuntu or do you use the standard kernel from ubuntu?
[10:33] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: standard
[10:33] <Maximilian1st> TheSheep, thank you.
[10:34] <Maximilian1st> Europe is waking up...
[10:36] <kalikiana> I have a weird problem: Glade and gtk stock buttons are not localized anymore and reinstalling languages doesn't seem to help. Any suggestions?
[10:39] <Maximilian1st> somerville32, TheSheep Is there a log of all the packages that are installed? If so kalikiana check the file and see what you installed last that could have broken your localized glade and gtk? Is that a possible cause?
[10:40] <Maximilian1st> I also have a question. This site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/software/CustomKernel suggests one should install the linux-tree package to compile it's own kernel, though I can't find that package. Old docs...?
[10:42] <kalikiana> ah, I searched Synaptic for any available language packages and apparently language-pack-gnome-* needs to be installed besides language-pack-*. So it must have been removed accidentally as there is no dependency. I wonder if language manager should install it if it is missing.
[10:43] <TheSheep> Maximilian1st: honestly, I didn't manage to compile anything kernel-related on recent ubuntus -- even the kernel source is installed as a tar.bz2 file O.o
[10:44] <kalikiana> Maximilian1st: there is "kernel-package" in the repo - I didn't try it, though.
[10:45] <Maximilian1st> Sad. I give it a try in a few minutes. The tree exists here and I can browse it.
[10:45] <Maximilian1st> You need it to compile yourself I suppose.
[11:03] <somerville32> lol
[11:12] <hmd64> hello
[11:13] <Maximilian1st> Hi
[11:21] <hmd64> I'm plane to make a mixture of edubuntu and xubuntu
[11:21] <hmd64> edubuntu is great
[11:22] <hmd64> but don't work nicely on older hardware
[11:23] <TheSheep> hmd64: check out tuxlabs
[11:26] <hyper_ch> hiho
[11:27] <hmd64> there is no way to download it from their website http://www.tuxlabs.org.za/
[11:27] <TheSheep> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0808f2d8 ***
[11:27] <TheSheep> Aborted
[11:27] <TheSheep> sorry
[11:28] <TheSheep> We will launch a separate website for this soon, which you can preview at http://www.tuxlab-os.co.za
[11:29] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: what is tuxlab?
[11:29] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: and what tld is za?
[11:29] <hmd64> TheSheep: are you working in tuxlab?
[11:30] <TheSheep> no
[11:30] <TheSheep> hmd64: just heard they are planning to mix xubuntu with edubuntu
[11:30] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: have you successfully installed vmware on feisty?
[11:30] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no, vmware is not free
[11:31] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: what kind of "free" are you referring to?
[11:32] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: free as in RMS
[11:32] <hmd64> hyper_ch: here is some info about tuxlabs http://jonathancarter.co.za/im-bringing-edgy-back
[11:33] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: RMS=
[11:33] <hyper_ch> ?
[11:34] <HeathenDan> richard stallman
[11:34] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: google for "define:rms" ;)
[11:37] <hyper_ch> stallman was at the very end of the list :)
[11:37] <hyper_ch> didn't know about that define thing in google :)
[11:38] <grumpymole> tld za = southa frica
[11:38] <grumpymole> ^ south africa
[11:39] <hyper_ch> thx :)
[11:39] <Maximilian1st> Zuid afrika
[11:40] <hyper_ch> one never stops learning :)
[12:42] <netstar> what screen font does /etc/console-tools/config use in edgy?
[12:43] <hmd64> I guess pixmap fonts
[12:43] <netstar> can you say which ones?
[12:43] <netstar> the variable is SCREEN_FONT
[12:45] <hmd64> why you need that?
[12:45] <netstar> so that I can have the same font in debian
[12:45] <netstar> no-one can answer me, they think I'm on cloud cuckoo
[12:46] <netstar> can you help?
[12:50] <netstar> i suppose that's too much to ask
[12:50] <netstar> hmd64: ?
[12:52] <netstar> why you need that? heh
[12:52] <hmd64> sorry I don't know enough
[12:52] <netstar> wanker
[12:52] <TheSheep> O.o
[12:52] <TheSheep> he's on cloud cuckoo, or what? :)
[12:52] <hmd64> ha ha
[12:55] <TheSheep> shame he left, I culd tell him it's terminus
[01:35] <hmd64> is there a way to switch languages in xubuntu?
[01:54] <BrendanM> hello
[01:55] <hmd64> hi
[01:56] <BrendanM> Is there a way to set my default network interface? It constantly defaults to the wireless card, even when I have an ethernet cord plugged in. The only way I can make it stop is by actually pulling out the wireless card (it's a PCMCIA card).
[01:58] <hmd64> this is an xubuntu topic only
[01:59] <BrendanM> I'm running Xubuntu
[02:24] <anton_> Ive just installed Xubuntu, and now I want to install the Java Runtime Enviroment.. Can someone give me please some advise how I can do that easily?
[02:32] <hmd64> try easyubuntu to download all restricted things(mp3,java...)
[02:32] <hmd64> you can download it also from sun's site
[02:47] <TheSheep> hmd64: java is not restricted
[02:48] <TheSheep> !sun-java
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <TheSheep> !info sun-java-bin
[02:50] <ubotu> Package sun-java-bin does not exist in any distro I know
[03:06] <traildustrider> Is anyone in here awake? I am in some trouble here I think...
[03:07] <traildustrider> I have used ubuntu and decided to try xubuntu
[03:07] <traildustrider> but I have issues and am not good enough to figure them out
[03:07] <traildustrider> I have no Applications button
[03:07] <traildustrider> does anyone know how to get that "start button" back?
[03:08] <traildustrider> I actually don't knoiw if I have even had it since I installed
[03:08] <pleia2> traildustrider: xubuntu doesn't have one on the interface by default, but if you right click on the desktop it'll bring it up
[03:08] <traildustrider> I seen that one, pleia2 thanks :)
[03:08] <pleia2> traildustrider: you can add it to your xfce panel too, right click on the panel and choose "add new item"
[03:08] <traildustrider> late discovery, is there a way to install one?
[03:09] <traildustrider> thank you
[03:09] <pleia2> then choose "xfce menu"
[03:09] <traildustrider> excellent :)
[03:10] <traildustrider> I am visiting my parents since dad had surgery and their xp was bogged down with some heavy mal-ware so they are being forced into this :P
[03:10] <traildustrider> they will NEED the button for sure
[03:10] <pleia2> hehe, yeah
[03:13] <traildustrider> will automatix install right through the Synaptic system anyone?
[03:14] <traildustrider> I don't mean the questions to sound rushed or unappreciated, I am happy for the help :)
[03:15] <traildustrider> nm, just found that answer :)
[03:34] <gnomefreak> traildustrider: its not a good idea to use automatix just enable universe and multiverse repos and it will give you 95% of what automatix can give you.
[03:48] <poisonpotion> i installed xubuntu n i choose to set network later in the text mode installation (i'm using wireless, wpa2). Now when installation is finished, and I want to follow the tutorial to set up wpa2, it doesn't even list my ath0 in iwconfig. How do I get it to register there?
[03:49] <Maximilian1st> is ath_pci in lsmod?
[03:49] <Maximilian1st> poisonpotion,
[03:50] <poisonpotion> Maximilian1st: apparently no
[03:51] <Maximilian1st> then modprobe it
[03:51] <poisonpotion> modprobe ath_pci?
[03:51] <Maximilian1st> yep
[03:52] <poisonpotion> it says FATAL: Module ath_pci not found.
[03:52] <Maximilian1st> then you have to install the restricted modules for your kernel
[03:53] <poisonpotion> Maximilian1st: How do i do that? Sorry I'm a complete n00b..
[03:54] <Maximilian1st> https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[03:58] <poisonpotion> can't seem to find ath in synaptics
[03:58] <poisonpotion> does it come default in xubuntu cd?
[03:58] <Maximilian1st> then you have to install the restricted modules for your kernel
[03:59] <poisonpotion> how do i do that?
[03:59] <Maximilian1st> search for restricted
[03:59] <somerville32> The Xubuntu meeting will be starting in a few minutes for those that are interested in #ubuntu-meeting
[03:59] <Maximilian1st> and find the "restricted-modules" for your kernel. If they are not there
[03:59] <Maximilian1st> then you need to add the multiverse to your sources
[04:00] <poisonpotion> there are a couple of restricted modules listed here...
[04:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> somerville32: Is there a page with the topics for this one?
[04:01] <poisonpotion> common, generic, 386, 2.6.17-10-386, 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:01] <somerville32> PuMpErNiCkLe, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[04:01] <poisonpotion> which one do i pick?
[04:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> somerville32: Thanks
[04:01] <Maximilian1st> poisonpotion, check the /boot folder of your system and see which one is intsalled
[04:02] <poisonpotion> it says generic, so i install the restricted generic as well?
[04:03] <somerville32> yup
[04:56] <poisonpotion_> muhahahaha
[04:57] <poisonpotion_> i'm online with my xubuntu box now!
[04:57] <vinze> Yes!
[04:57] <vinze> :D
[04:57] <poisonpotion_> Maximilian1st, thanx heaps, couldn't have done it without ur help
[04:58] <poisonpotion_> ooo... gtk scrollbars are so pretty...
[04:58] <vinze> Depending on your skin :D
[04:59] <somerville32> poisonpotion, You got it to work? Awesome! :)
[05:00] <poisonpotion_> hehehe thanx
[05:00] <poisonpotion_> the forum was very very very very helpful
[05:00] <vinze> somerville32: The Ubuntuforums hehehe :D
[05:00] <poisonpotion_> i had to cross reference the wiki with the forum to get my home network to work
[05:01] <poisonpotion_> but yeah, unless Maximilian1st helped me with the modprobe, i wouldn't have a clue where to start
[05:13] <poisonpotion_> sleep now
[05:13] <poisonpotion_> see ya guys
[05:13] <vinze> Night
[05:13] <poisonpotion_> and thanx
[05:13] <Maximilian1st> 'night
[05:21] <Maximilian1st> Oh man I should not have installed this feisty xubuntu... Wait till the product comes out.
[05:21] <vinze> Why?
[05:22] <Maximilian1st> Some things worked well in edgy and not in feisty. Laptop fn keys for lcd brightness for exam,ple
[05:22] <somerville32> lol
[05:22] <somerville32> File bugs ;]
[05:22] <Maximilian1st> on launchpad?
[05:22] <vinze> Yes
[05:23] <Maximilian1st> I thought I could just add the option to the kernel but it gives me an error message when compiling...
[05:25] <Maximilian1st> Is there a special section of the launchpad site for herd2 bugs?
[05:27] <somerville32> Nope
[05:39] <Maximilian1st> Apart from this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/software/CustomKernel, is there another one dedicated to kernel compiling in ubuntu?
[05:42] <somerville32> Maximilian1st, Not that I know of
[05:42] <somerville32> and sorry for being slow to respond - just busy with Xubuntu meeting #ubuntu-meeting
[05:42] <Maximilian1st> np mate
[05:44] <Jester45> whens the next xubuntu meeting
[05:45] <somerville32> 2 weeks, Wednesday
[05:45] <Jester45> wow
[05:45] <Jester45> ubuntu has one like each week
[05:46] <Jester45> i know its more popular but dang i was hoping like the 24
[05:48] <Jester45> and im not sure about this because i have only been on xubuntu from drapper but it seems that edgy is a little less lightweight than drapper
[05:48] <Jester45> is this becuase drapper is LTS or just how they are dev xubuntu
[05:48] <somerville32> Not sure
[06:11] <Jester45> for a shell script would could i get say *.avi in a folder to be send to ffmpeg and if there are 2 file witch match * how can i send them separtly
[06:11] <Jester45>  for i in *.flv
[06:11] <Jester45>  do
[06:11] <Jester45>         echo i
[06:11] <Jester45>         ffmpeg -i $i -ab 56 -ar 44100 -b 500  -s 320x240 $i.mpg
[06:11] <Jester45>  done
[06:12] <Jester45> was posted online could i just change the fir i in *.flv to *.avi?
[06:12] <TheSheep> Jester45: !
[06:13] <Jester45> TheSheep: ?
[06:13] <TheSheep> !!!
[06:34] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:34] <vinze> Hallo
[06:35] <hmd64> hi
[06:35] <somerville32> hi :)
[06:35] <Jester45> helloi
[06:35] <hmd64> HO HO HO :)
[06:36] <fijam> alloha
[06:36] <vinze> Hoi
[06:36] <hmd64> what are you playing? :)
[06:37] <vinze> Dune Dashing in Dubai
[07:21] <Pekke_> what is the best wireless lan managing and assistant etc. tool for xubuntu? wlanassistant?
[07:21] <vinze> Isn't network-admin sufficient?
[07:22] <vinze> You could try network-manager: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:22] <vinze> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[07:23] <Pekke_> thanks!
[07:23] <vinze> np
[07:43] <Crux2k> whats the command to install shit
[07:44] <Crux2k> isnt it like sudo something
[07:44] <Crux2k> i forget the rest
[07:46] <AlbanuvA> sudo apt-get install
[07:46] <TheSheep> !language
[07:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:46] <Crux2k> ok
[07:47] <Crux2k> thanks
[07:56] <fxr> hi folks how do i add a printer in xubuntu, i cant find anything relevant in my menu's?
[07:56] <fxr> found it...
[07:56] <fxr> sorry
[07:57] <somerville32> :)
[07:57] <somerville32> Feel free to idle :)
[08:40] <ringdonut> Hello?
[08:43] <somerville32> Hi! :)
[08:43] <ringdonut> Arrghh...
[08:43] <ringdonut> Stepmania won't run....
[08:43] <ringdonut> 00:03.103: Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available.  Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer.
[08:44] <somerville32> ringdonut, What graphics card do you have?
[08:46] <ringdonut> Some nvidia one
[08:46] <ringdonut> How would I find out? Which command?
[08:46] <TheSheep> lspci
[08:48] <ringdonut> somerville32: GeForce FX 5200
[08:48] <somerville32> !nvidia | ringdonut
[08:48] <ringdonut> ...
[08:49] <somerville32> Well
[08:49] <somerville32> It appears the bot is dead
[08:50] <ubotu> ringdonut: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <somerville32> Oh! :)
[08:50] <ringdonut> lol
[08:50] <ringdonut> Finally
[08:50] <ringdonut> Have you ever played Metal Blob Solid?
[08:50] <somerville32> I must admit no
[08:50] <ringdonut> It's good
[08:51] <ringdonut> Applications>Other>Add/Remove...
[08:51] <ringdonut> search for Metal Blob Solid
[08:51] <ringdonut> A 2D, Gory, Funny Shooter/platformer/Puzzler
[08:51] <somerville32> I'll have to try it out :)
[08:52] <ringdonut> Lol
[08:52] <ringdonut> I'm qutie a linux expert ;)
[08:52] <ringdonut> Add me on Gaim or whatever IM Client you use
[08:52] <ringdonut> It's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:55] <somerville32> Jabber?
[09:10] <Jester45> hello world
[09:10] <Jester45> im back
[09:10] <Jester45> back again
[09:11] <Jester45> jester is back tell a friend
[09:19] <Jester45> welcome back
[09:33] <Jester45> if i do sudo apt-get -b source somepackage will it auto build it for me and optimize it?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:46] <Jester45> cool
[09:51] <ghevan> hi, I'm having a bit of a problem making compositer on xubuntu edgy.
[09:56] <somerville32> ghevan, Whats your issue?
[09:58] <ghevan> hi
[09:58] <ghevan> I want to enable compositor
[09:59] <ghevan> but xfwm4 refuses to accept "compositor=on". Im running edgy btw.
[10:00] <ghevan> OH and I added to xorg the options render accel and accelglx etc on device. But notheing seems to get it working.
[10:18] <|2iggs> hello all
[10:24] <|2iggs> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to have the mailwatcher application launch firefox, which would in turn go to gmail.com?
[10:25] <TheSheep> |2iggs: sure
[10:25] <TheSheep> |2iggs: just put in in 'run on click' filed in the preferences
[10:40] <slow-motion> n8
[11:08] <arsenip> aha! xubuntu chan :D
[11:09] <TheSheep> he found us! run!
[11:09] <somerville32> :)
[11:10] <arsenip> xD
[11:10] <arsenip> just put xubuntu on my tx1hp vaio
[11:10] <arsenip> so i may or may not have to pick some brains :x
[11:10] <somerville32> :)
[11:11] <TheSheep> somerville32: chesire cat?
[11:12] <arsenip> see, im used to debian, so apt-get just makes everything really easy. though cant seem to find apps id of expected on the xubuntu apt :x
[11:12] <TheSheep> hah, it's the norm for me :)
[11:12] <arsenip> not sure if i need to add more sources
[11:12] <TheSheep> arsenip: universe and multiverse, for starters
[11:13] <TheSheep> hah, that arsenic was poisoned!
[11:13] <somerville32> !software | arsenip
[11:13] <ubotu> arsenip: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[11:13] <arsenip> ty :)
[11:14] <ringdonut> arse nip?
[11:15] <ringdonut> ftw arse nip's nick!
[11:15] <TheSheep> !language | ringdonut
[11:15] <ubotu> ringdonut: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:15] <somerville32> TheSheep: ftw is For The Win
[11:16] <somerville32> ;]
[11:16] <arsenip> lol
[11:16] <arsenip> nick is usually arsen
[11:16] <arsenip> but ive not been on freenode in a while (few months)
[11:16] <arsenip> so theres someone else with it now ;x
[11:16] <TheSheep> somerville32: and what is arse?
[11:16] <ringdonut> ?
[11:16] <ringdonut> but..
[11:16] <ringdonut> He is called arse nip?
[11:16] <arsenip> lol no :x
[11:16] <ringdonut> Why do I get the blame?
[11:17] <ringdonut> !botabuse | arsenip
[11:17] <ubotu> arsenip: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:17] <ringdonut> muhuhaha
[11:17] <TheSheep> ringdonut: bored? :3
[11:17] <ringdonut> TheSheep: very.
[11:18] <TheSheep> ringdonut: how about some bug triaging?
[11:18] <ringdonut> :*B    <--- very messed up teeth
[11:18] <ringdonut> :^B   <--- Version 2
[11:18] <ringdonut> Bug triaging?
[11:18] <ringdonut> WTF is that?
[11:19] <TheSheep> ringdonut: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[11:19] <somerville32> TheSheep: arse is Artificial Robotic Sabotage Entity
[11:19] <TheSheep> somerville32: isn't sabotage ot here?
[11:20] <somerville32> It just might ;]
[11:20] <somerville32> ringdonut, Bug triage is an excellent way to help out! :)
[11:20] <TheSheep> ringdonut: and to fight boredom
[11:20] <ringdonut> OK...
[11:20] <ringdonut> !botabuse | somerville32
[11:20] <ubotu> somerville32: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:20] <ringdonut> No!
[11:21] <ringdonut> the bots are broken again :(
[11:21] <somerville32> :S
[11:21] <ringdonut> lol
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ringdonut: bots work fine now
[11:21] <ringdonut> yay
[11:21] <somerville32> ringdonut, Furthermore, you get karma for bug triaging! :)
[11:21] <ringdonut> yay]
[11:21] <ringdonut> i need karma
[11:25] <arsenip> as far as technically
[11:25] <arsenip> is xubuntu any different to basic ubuntu (aside from xfce)
[11:26] <TheSheep> arsenip: the difference is only in apps installed by default and desktop setup
[11:26] <arsenip> righty
[11:26] <arsenip> so the ubuntu help pages all apply then :)
[11:26] <TheSheep> arsenip: xubuntu also doesn't start gnome-device-manager and similar things
[11:27] <TheSheep> arsenip: mostly, but the gui is usually different
[11:40] <fxr> hi, im having some problems, i was playing around with installing MTP, but things have went wrong (its not uninstalled) but i cant get my xfce desktop to show.. im missing my panels & beryl wont start no more.. can anyone help or tell me whats going on...
[11:40] <fxr> *its not installed = its now uninstalled
[11:41] <TheSheep> mtp?
[11:41] <fxr> Microsft Media Transfer Protocol or some such
[11:41] <TheSheep> can you run 'xfdesktop' or 'xfce4-panel' ?
[11:42] <fxr> sorry the sheep can you gimme them 2 commands again pls..
[11:43] <TheSheep> can you run 'xfdesktop' or 'xfce4-panel' ?
[11:43] <Pekke> can someone help me: My font size seems to be different every time i start my computer & xubuntu. Settings MAnager/ display preferences:1024*768@61, user interface preferences: Font: sans12, theme:clearlooks. In firefox the font can be huge, and in Konversation it was really tiny, so what's wrong?
[11:45] <TheSheep> Pekke: your system's dpi is not detected correctly, it seems
[11:45] <somerville32> Konversation uses QT not Gtk+
[11:45] <TheSheep> Pekke: you can force it
[11:45] <TheSheep> Pekke: open terminal and type:  echo Xft.dpi: 96 >> ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb
[11:45] <fxr> yes thats it The Sheep, i was missing my panels.. it must have remembered my crashed session settings from, that messed up MTP installed.. its all sorted now.. i think ll just use windows to transfer mp3s to my mp3 device
[11:46] <TheSheep> Pekke: the relog and it should be ok
[11:46] <TheSheep> fxr: don't forget to save session when logging out
[11:46] <Pekke> TheSheep: it gave me nothing back...
[11:47] <Pekke> oh, it gives Xft.dpi: 96
[11:47] <Pekke> sorry
[11:47] <fxr> yes.. ll try logging in and out now, thanks for the help..your a goodun'
[11:48] <Pekke> is there any way to get some transluency or more themes to xubuntu?
[11:49] <somerville32> Pekke: Yes. By using the compositor
[11:49] <Pekke> i thought that it's only for kde?
[11:50] <TheSheep> no, xubuntu has translucency and shadows (hardware accelerated) build in
[11:50] <Pekke> ok
[11:52] <Pekke> ok, because i had a feeling i've tried xubuntu with some more effects, and that must be because i had kubuntu and then installed xubuntu desktop? but now i have only xubuntu
[11:52] <Pekke> somerville32: how can i get that? synaptics can't find it?
[11:52] <somerville32> What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[11:53] <Pekke> i think 6.06
[11:53] <Pekke> but i'm noobie...
[11:53] <somerville32> I don't think 6.06 has the compositor
[11:54] <Pekke> can i download it from somewhere or something?
[11:54] <TheSheep> somerville32: I think it does
[11:54] <somerville32> Pekke: TheSheep knows more about the compositor then I.
[11:55] <TheSheep> Pekke: follow this: http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en#xcomposite
[11:55] <somerville32> Pekke | TheSheep >> Peke
[11:55] <somerville32> !compositor
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compositor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <somerville32> !compositor-#xubuntu is <reply> For instructions on how to enable the compositor in Xubuntu, please see http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en#xcomposite
[11:55] <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32
[11:55] <somerville32> !compositor
[11:55] <ubotu> For instructions on how to enable the compositor in Xubuntu, please see http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en#xcomposite
[11:57] <TheSheep> Pekke: if you still don't have the compositor tab in the window manager tweaks, then close it and edit ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml  and replace the line <option name="Xfwm/UseCompositing" type="int" value="0"/> with <option name="Xfwm/UseCompositing" type="int" value="1"/>
[12:00] <Pekke> i thought i'll reboot first?
[12:01] <TheSheep> Pekke: no, just restart X with alt+ctrl+backspace
[12:01] <Pekke> roger
[12:02] <TheSheep> finland :)
[12:03] <Pekke> Ok, now i got that, but the font sizes are different again =(
[12:03] <Pekke> now it's like at least 16 in konversation
[12:03] <TheSheep> Pekke: well, they will stay like that now
[12:03] <TheSheep> Pekke: you can change them in the app's settings
[12:04] <TheSheep> (or the fix I gave you didn't work)
[12:04] <Pekke> ok, but if i now change the font to smaller?
[12:04] <Pekke> it should keep it that way?
[12:05] <TheSheep> yes
[12:05] <Pekke> well, it says that the system font is 12...
[12:05] <TheSheep> you have forced fonts resolution to 96dpi -- the Windows default
[12:06] <TheSheep> hmm... say, what is the last line in ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.conf?
[12:06] <TheSheep> hmm... say, what is the last line in ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb
[12:06] <TheSheep> sorry
[12:07] <Pekke> Xft.dpi: 96
[12:07] <TheSheep> ok
[12:07] <Pekke> taht should be correct
[12:07] <TheSheep> yes
[12:08] <TheSheep> I think the Windows' defaults that everyone are used to are 10pt fonts
[12:08] <TheSheep> in 96dpi
[12:08] <Pekke> ok, i'll make em smaller, and then do that desktop restart again
[12:09] <TheSheep> btw, kde apps like konversation specify font sizes differently than gtk ones, I think
[12:09] <TheSheep> they never match for me
[12:12] <Pekke> thanks, now it seems to work
[12:12] <TheSheep> Pekke: any luck?
[12:12] <TheSheep> great
[12:12] <TheSheep> Pekke: how about compositor?
[12:12] <Pekke> it works also great
[12:15] <Pekke> one smaller thing that bothers -which is really a minor thing, but it bothers me - is that the panel in the botton of the screen has to be like size 26, and still the xfce menu & firefox buttons are really tiny, and programs don't tile into two rows like in Kubuntu, but one program takes the whole height of the panel... but i guess there's not any simple solution to that, or can i change the width of menu button from somewhere and make
[12:15] <Pekke> those running programs to line on two rows??
[12:17] <TheSheep> Pekke: you could do that in your gtk theme, but it's an advanced thing
[12:17] <TheSheep> Pekke: and I don't know the actual widget names for that
[12:18] <TheSheep> Pekke: you'd probably need to look into the source code to check tha names
[12:18] <Pekke> ok, well it's not so bad, i have 12 inch laptop, so i like to use all the screen i can efficiently.. =)
[12:18] <TheSheep> Pekke: get rid of the task list entirely
[12:18] <TheSheep> Pekke: workspaces switcher is enough
[12:18] <TheSheep> :)
[12:18] <Pekke> =)
[12:19] <TheSheep> you can always get the list by middle-clicking on the desktop
[12:19] <Pekke> my laptop doesn't have middle button =)
[12:20] <TheSheep> Pekke: then bind a key to xfce-show-window-list
[12:20] <TheSheep> or how it is called
[12:20] <Pekke> hmm..
[12:21] <TheSheep> xfdesktop --windowlist
[12:23] <Pekke> well... i don't know, then i can't be able to see the battery status and all if i ain't got no pane in the bottom...
[12:24] <TheSheep> Pekke: move them to the one at the top
[12:25] <Pekke> i took the top one off, and put everything to the bottom (menu& firefox buttons, task list, wlan monitor, running applications list, battery monitor, time
[12:25] <TheSheep> well, you can leave the bottom one, just remove the task list from it and put some more useful things
[12:26] <TheSheep> you can laos make it shorter, not taking up whole width
[12:26] <TheSheep> then you always have some free space to click on to bring the menu
[12:26] <TheSheep> Pekke: that'swhat I have, but it doesn't have to work good for you
[12:26] <Pekke> yes, that i know, but it's not too much help then... i've tried the auto-hide, but sometimes it freaks and won't rise again
[12:26] <TheSheep> Pekke: the point is to try different setups to see
[12:27] <Pekke> yes, i understand.. i have to creative and try out..
[12:27] <TheSheep> Pekke: I had it set to floating and almost 100 transparent for some time
[12:27] <TheSheep> Pekke: worked almost like autohiding


[00:30] <Lostfound> hey guyz
[00:31] <Lostfound> im runing kubuntu 15.x is it safe to upgrade to 16.4 through software upgrades?
[00:34] <user|12806> Can anyone tell me what 'Run Chat' is?
[00:36] <Lostfound> a little more specific?
[00:37] <c31f4d0r> good evening! I'm trying to record my screen using ( DESKTOP RECORDER ) RecordtNow only that the program only records the notebook microphone audio and not the audio of the site you want . already tried all settings ... can someone give me a hint ?
[00:41] <user|12806> I was looking for an irc client in my newly installed Kubuntu 16.10 as it was included in a previous version, instead, when I typed chat in the search box, I was only given 'Run Chat', when I clicked that, nothing happened. I'd like to know what it is.
[00:51] <Lostfound> probably some irc client
[00:52] <Lostfound> but strange that nothing happened
[00:54] <valorie> user|12806: konversation should be provided by default
[00:54] <valorie> but I've never seen "run chat"
[00:54] <valorie> c31f4d0r: that isn't kde or kubuntu software -- perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[00:54] <valorie> there are more people there
[00:55] <c31f4d0r> thanks valorie
[00:55] <valorie>  user|12806 huh, I see that run chat too
[00:55] <valorie> irc is irc though
[00:55] <c31f4d0r> I'm giving up...
[00:55] <user|12806> I did find 'Konversation' eventually, but this 'Run Chat' worried me...
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> Looks like "chat" is some command line utility
[00:56] <valorie>  when I type irc in krunner, "applications" listed konversation
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> So that's why you get "Run chat"
[00:56] <valorie> right, there may be some old x command, run chat
[00:56] <valorie> I doubt it will do anything
[00:57] <valorie> type it in a konsole and see!
[00:59] <user|12806> I'd better not. This is my 3rd installation this week. I had enough of 'broken' Kubuntu's
[01:00] <user|12806> Anyone knows how an old Kubuntu 14.10 (my personal favorite) can be downloaded and where and why is it not available any more?
[01:01] <dax> 14.10 hasn't had security updates since 2015. Using it is a rather terrible idea.
[01:04] <user|12806> Well, at least that was stable.
[01:04] <user|12806> What's my best option then?
[01:04] <user|12806> ...if we talk about stability
[01:06] <valorie> 16.04 is an LTS, and very stable
[01:06] <valorie> what problems have you had with it?
[01:06] <valorie> especially with backports it is smooth as silk
[01:08] <N3X15> Is there a known issue with mouse pointer being wildly offset on the Kubuntu-CI build?
[01:09] <N3X15> Just want to make sure I'm not going crazy
 *jaw drops*
[01:09] <user|memo> download in USB key
[01:13] <user|12806> valorie no, really, I haven't had problems with 16 for now, if we discount a couple of bugs. but this is the third one I'm installing after 15.10 was corrupt, 14.04 started giving me error messages on every click after only one day I've been using it
[01:14] <user|12806> valorie I must say, I've never seen a more stable one than the good old 14.10 I've been using last year
[01:15] <mparillo> I agree 14.10 was great, but the closest thing now is 14.04 which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
 N3X15 what kubuntu ci build?
[01:27] <N3X15> Uh, not sure
[01:27] <N3X15> I'm hooked up to the PPA
[01:27] <N3X15> It's been screwy for several days, at least
[01:49] <darin> valorie or anyone: YY akonadi is not running, but when I attempt to start is as mentioned here https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Controlling_the_Akonadi_server, message says it is not installed. apt intall says it already is.
[01:49] <darin> apt install^
[01:54] <valorie> for me akonadi, kmail etc was removed during the upgrade from the 3 PPAs
[01:55] <valorie> however, since plasma isn't started, I'll probably just shut it down from a tty
[01:55] <valorie> until there is something new to try
[02:17] <user|confused> so im trying to do a guided install of 16.04 (manual keeps failing), and my swap is being assigned as 93gb. what in the world?
[03:07] <alexo> What's the worst thing that can happen by running an unsupported version of Kubuntu like 14.10?
[03:10] <valorie> alexo: you will get no security updates
[03:10] <valorie> imo if you want to stay an older release, stick to LTS
[03:11] <valorie> 14.04, or 16.04 -- granted, the leap is huge between
[03:11] <valorie> even 12.04 is still supported with security updates
[03:12] <Guest51562> how can i check if something is built into my kernel?
[03:13] <valorie> something?
[03:14] <Guest51562> specifically, vfio-pci
[03:14] <valorie> hmm, you could ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[03:14] <Guest51562> okay, checking there
[03:14] <valorie> the kernel is not Kubuntu's remit
[03:15] <Guest51562> ??
[03:17] <valorie> Guest51562: what I mean is that the kernel team does the kernel, while we do KDE packages
[03:17] <valorie> nobody in our team is also on the kernel team
[03:17] <Guest51562> Oh, okay
[05:12] <D-rex> anyone know how to fix the kde connect dolphin error "Invalid object path: /modules/kdeconnect/devices/<IP_ADDRESS>/sftp"? I get this error while trying to view files on my phone
[05:33] <valorie> D-rex: make sure you have the same version of kdeconnect on your phone as you do on your computer
[05:45] <D-rex> valorie: how do I update my desktop kde connect on 16.04... its version 0.8 phone is version 0.9
[05:47] <D-rex> i ran apt-get update but it's not detecting the new version or the repo isnt updating version
[05:49] <D-rex> nm there the same version was looking at wrong packge
[05:49] <D-rex> they're
[05:57] <benve> ciao
[06:15] <valorie> !info kdeconnect
[06:15] <valorie> hmmm
[06:15] <valorie> I think it's in a PPA
[06:17] <valorie> darn, he stopped maintaining that
[06:18] <valorie> I also have 0.8, and I'm on 16.10 already
[07:32] <stephan> Hello all. I have kubuntu 16.04 and when i log into KDE i have suspend to ram after 30 minutes. Is there a possibility that sddm can have the same suspend to ram time without logging into kde first?
[07:39] <valorie> I rarely or never logout
[07:43] <stephan> The PC in question is for guests and also sometimes started with wake-on-lan. So the PC is sometimes started to sddm without logging in to kde and then sometimes running for days. I would like that suspend to ram also works from sddm without logging in kde first.
[07:48] <valorie> I dunno
[07:48] <valorie> SDDM isn't KDE software, unfortunately
[07:50] <valorie> we're in a tough place because KDM is not supported anymore, and lightdm doesn't fit our requirements
[08:05] <Kenshiwara> Hello! The drag and drop feature is not working in Chrome when using Dolphin under Kubuntu 16.04. There is also a question on AskUbuntu about that without any answers: https://askubuntu.com/questions/718161/cant-drag-files-from-dolphin-to-chrome - Can anyone help? thanks
[09:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:53] <abhigenie92> the driver manager in kubuntu 16.04 is not working and I wanted to check if I have installed the correct driver
[10:53] <abhigenie92> Drivers info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16799837/
[10:53] <BluesKaj> abhigenie92, driver manager is buggy , forget it for now
[10:55] <abhigenie92> BluesKaj, please check my paste
[10:56] <BluesKaj> yeah abhigenie92 I did, looks like the 367 driver should be installed
[10:56] <abhigenie92> BluesKaj, oh thanks! Should I uninstall the current one and install that one then,
[10:57] <abhigenie92> what could be a clean way to remove it?
[10:58] <abhigenie92> nvidia-367-dev and nvidia-367 are available via apt-get
[11:00] <BluesKaj> just do, sudo apt install nvidia-367 the installed driver will automatcally be disabled
[11:00] <abhigenie92> should I sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* before?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> no need
[11:00] <abhigenie92> I am space issues.
[11:00] <abhigenie92> am-have
[11:01] <BluesKaj> well that's up to you'
[11:02] <BluesKaj> doubt you will gain much space unless your / is getting full ,if that' the case run autoremove and autoclean
[11:04] <abhigenie92> okay, how did you figure it was nvidia-367. There are other options also mentioned there
[11:04] <abhigenie92> like nvidia-364
[11:05] <BluesKaj> because it's recommended
[11:06] <abhigenie92> oh yeah, is there any other way apart from driver manager to check what else drivers I need to install.
[11:06] <BluesKaj> that's the driver the driver manager would recommend if it wasn't broken
[11:07] <abhigenie92> doesn't sudo ubuntu-drivers devices do the same?
[11:07] <abhigenie92> I mean from the output should I install something else also?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> abh you can check on the vidia website to see which linux driver is recommended there, but use the 367 from the repos with apt
[11:08] <BluesKaj> abhigenie92,^
[11:09] <abhigenie92> BluesKaj, yeah, I was asking from  sudo ubuntu-drivers devices should I install something else also?
[11:09] <abhigenie92> I have installed intel-microcode
[11:10] <BluesKaj> that's optional yes
[11:18] <MoonUnit`> will have to check 367, last time i checked 364 i had resume problems so stuck with 361
[11:22] <abhigenie92> I reinstalled because I was having this issue with https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/926199/linux/361-28-crashes-matlab-r2016a/ with nvidia-364
[11:22] <abhigenie92> I still reinstalling right now to check if it fixes.
[12:02] <abhishek__> hmmm
[15:47] <D-rex> Error while trying to view files on my phone with KDEConnect "Invalid object path: /modules/kdeconnect/devices/<IP_ADDRESS>/sftp"?
[16:01] <nikulinlg> Hi all! xfce or lxde for very old PC? Sorry, for my English
[16:09] <BluesKaj> nikulinlg, how old ?
[16:34] <eatdroid> hi everyone!
[16:58] <nikulinlg> BluesKaj, very old. intel core 2 duo, 1 Gb ram, 500 Gb HDD.
[16:58] <nikulinlg> BluesKaj, sorry for my English
[17:01] <BluesKaj> nikulinlg, your pc is lacking in RAM, otherwise it's fine , memory is cheap , and it's worth  adding  2 Gigs more. My pc is also dual core and ai added more RAM ., now it runs fine
[17:03] <BluesKaj> It won't be a gamer machine , but it will fine with kubuntu
[17:07] <nikulinlg> BluesKaj, ok, thank You! I try to back to life my old PC :-)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> nikulinlg, my pc is 8 yrs old , still running fine
[17:17] <david_> SSD disk also makes your computer much more responsive
[17:20] <BluesKaj> david_, yes I use a samsung evo 850 256GB SSD on this old pc , makes a big difference in response
[17:50] <geekosopher> hi all
[17:51] <geekosopher> ubottu: lts
[17:52] <geekosopher> ubottu: kubuntu 16.04 release notes
[17:52] <geekosopher> ubottu: kubuntu 16.04
[17:53] <Unit193> !notes
[17:59] <acheron_uk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[19:05] <pepee> what the hell happened to the directory viewer in konqueror? :(
[19:06] <BluesKaj> is konqueror still supported ?
[19:08] <pepee> I hope
 Not supported in kubuntu
[19:09] <pepee> I dislike dolphin...
[19:09] <BluesKaj> not installed by default
[19:10] <BluesKaj> but in the repos
[19:10] <pepee> I upgraded from 14.04
[19:10] <pepee> been upgrading since... dunno how many years
[19:25] <rabbi> hello
[19:25] <rabbi> anyone here
[19:26] <LeoDaVinci> im having trouble getting xubuntu to start from a bootable usb. i have the correct iso on it and used lili to make it live. i have a hp laptop. i went into the bios and turned legacy support on and switched the usb to the top. also went into the boot options but my usb didnt show up. i used all usb ports aswell.
[19:27] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: that seems to be a problem with your bios, not with kubuntu
[19:27] <andy123> what do you mean, didnt show up?
[19:28] <andy123> what happens when you try to boot from usb?
[19:30] <LeoDaVinci> it just boots into windows normally
[19:30] <rabbi> hello i ran kubuntu-devel-release on bash
[19:30] <rabbi> it upgraded me to kubuntu 16.4 LTS
[19:30] <rabbi> but its super buggy
[19:31] <rabbi> okular takes years to open epub
[19:31] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: I guess your boot stick is not correct
[19:31] <rabbi> apps crash
[19:31] <LeoDaVinci> lili has always worked for me
[19:32] <BluesKaj> rabbi, install kubuntu-restricted-extras after updating and upgrading
[19:32] <rabbi> i had kubuntu 14 before upgrading?
[19:32] <LeoDaVinci> what other program will create it?
[19:33] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, read the manual of your motherboard, you probably have to press f8 or f9 to boot from another device
[19:33] <rabbi> will that fix it?
[19:33] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, also, did you mean kubuntu? support for xubuntu is in a different channel
[19:33] <rabbi> i thought restricted extras was for video and audio codecs
[19:33] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: you can create the usb stick with dd
[19:33] <andy123> rabbi: this is correct, this wont fix crashes.
[19:34] <andy123> rabbi: unfortunately, kubuntu 16.04 not not very stable yet imo
[19:34] <pepee> rabbi, I'd enable the kubuntu PPA
[19:35] <LeoDaVinci> pepee, i did press that and when it all came up my usb didnt
[19:35] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: try this
[19:35] <andy123> sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[19:35] <BluesKaj> rabbi, it is but it's also for java which I mistakenlky thought was relevant
[19:35] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, then your computer has some problem with the usb stick, probably... or k/xunbuntu wasn't installed correctly
[19:35] <andy123> where /dev/sdb is your usb device
[19:36] <rabbi> wow
[19:36] <rabbi> i thought the whole point of a lts is a stable release
[19:36] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, note that overwritting your usb drive will destroy all data in it. also, make sure that you are writing to the correct device..
[19:36] <pepee> rabbi, hehe
[19:37] <pepee> welcome to the linux world
[19:37] <BluesKaj> rabbi, are you running devel tools etc
[19:37] <rabbi> yeah
[19:37] <rabbi> sure
[19:37] <rabbi> sorry, thought u meant dev tools
[19:37] <LeoDaVinci> ive done this before on another laptop the same way. and same usb drive
[19:37] <rabbi> what are devel tools?
[19:38] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: try if the stick boots on another computer
[19:38] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, did it work in that other laptop? if so, then yes, it's related to the BIOS/UEFI, nothing to do with *ubuntu
[19:40] <pepee> I guess you have to enable some settings in the BIOS/UEFI menu
[19:41] <BluesKaj> rabbi, nm , it's not relevant ...forget me , i'm mistaken
[19:41] <rabbi> Blues, what are devel tools?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> they don't exist yet for KDE/plasma in the repos
[19:43] <LeoDaVinci> so theres nothing i can do if its my computer?
[19:45] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: if the bios settings cannt fix it, you're pretty much screwed
[19:53] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, most of the time, those settings are hidden. once again, try reading the manual of your computer
 when can you typically expect kubuntu 16 to be stable?
[20:07] <pepee> poor rabbi
[21:07] <N3X15> One more HexChat restart, apologies for the reconnect spam and amsg.