[02:17] <topyli> mgcross: oh, build-essential doesn't depend on the auto* tools
[02:17] <mgcross> hmmm...build essential IS installed...strange...wouldn't it have depended on something like automake?...that's why I installed build-essentials...
[02:17] <tomaj> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:17] <stizoner> use amarok fredric
[02:17] <mgcross> Seveas: gottcha!
[02:17] <tomaj> thoreauputic: im going to start computer on timer and the azureus :)
[02:17] <tomaj> rephorm: sure thing
[02:17] <fredric> stizoner: thanks!
[02:18] <tomaj> stizoner ubotu was talking to you ;)
[02:18] <tomaj> shit
[02:18] <pirast> fredric: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&highlight=automate+script+users can be very helpfull, too
[02:18] <spine55> I have a problem with my computer it has a k7n2 board and locks up while in X its rock solid while command line
[02:18] <tomaj> fredric: ubotu was talking to you lol not stizoner :)
[02:19] <topyli> fredric: install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support in all gnome apps
[02:19] <spine55> just wanted to know if anyone can tell me how to troubleshoot this kind of problem
[02:19] <pirast> spine55: Do you have an ATI card?
[02:19] <spine55> pirast: yeah
[02:19] <spine55> pirast: 7200
[02:19] <sn0n> hey guys.. where would i suggest changing /etc/debian_version into /etc/ubuntu_version
[02:19] <sn0n> (and updating the version #)
[02:19] <mgcross> Seveas: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..
[02:20] <pirast> Ok, it's a bug in Hoary I think. I already crated a bugreport: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10579
[02:20] <topyli> sn0n: it's deprecated anyway, lsb-release is the one these days :)
[02:20] <mgcross> do I need to reboot after installing automake? wouldn't have thought so...
[02:20] <sn0n> topyli, my scripts stat uses it.. ;-)
[02:20] <pirast> spine55: You can try to change ati in vesa in you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:20] <sn0n> http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/
[02:20] <topyli> sn0n: your script is old-fashioned :)
[02:20] <sn0n> yeah
[02:20] <sn0n> last update was 1 year ago
[02:20] <sn0n> lol
[02:20] <spine55> pirast: so just change the line that has ati to vesa?
[02:20] <tomaj> sn0n try the webby and forums
[02:21] <pirast> yep
[02:21] <pirast> and restart x, spine55
[02:21] <sn0n> i was gonna fix it.. so it dont say im using debian 3.1
[02:21] <fredric> thanks all of you then ;-)
[02:21] <spine55> sweet thanks!
[02:21] <sn0n> http://sn0nsb0x.info/~rob/info/
[02:21] <sn0n> see
[02:21] <tomaj> pirast would fglrx be a better option?
[02:21] <sn0n> Distro Name	 Debian 3.1
[02:21] <pirast> I don't know if the fglrx drivers work with you card.
[02:21] <Firsti_> Hello
[02:21] <spine55> pirast: no they don't already tried that
[02:22] <pirast> k
[02:22] <Firsti_> Is there some way to play lxdoom as fullscreen ?
[02:22] <tomaj> spine55 what card are u using?
[02:22] <tomaj> just out of intrest
[02:22] <ZanTuzZ> I know i sound like a newbie now, i have downloaded ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso to my computer, then what?! do i have to burn it down on i cd like a "boot-cd" ?! please help
[02:22] <pirast> (14:19:41) spine55: pirast: yeah
[02:22] <pirast> (14:19:48) spine55: pirast: 7200
[02:22] <topyli> sn0n: webmin does the same
[02:22] <pirast> I have a Radeon 7000, same problem..
[02:23] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: yip, you need to burn it to CD
[02:23] <sn0n> topyli, calls ubuntu debain 3.1 ?
[02:23] <stizoner> i managed to install the official ati drivers, dont ask me how though that was many commands/hours ago, i found it in the forum though
[02:23] <Spear> hi again, i just need an advice : i' m using Ubuntu Hoary, with the old Warty Kernel. I downloaded a kernel from kernel.org, 2.6.10, and started to compile it via make-kpkg. One i restarted, i got a Kernel Panic " kernel panic ernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) " ... so, i looked for an answer, but i got an idea : i compiled using the old conf file. The old kernel has an initrd line, thing the new one
[02:23] <Spear>  doesn' t have (i didn't think about that) ... could it be that the filesystem or whatelse would be modular via initrd and, then, as i took the old conffile and didin't integrate it to the kernel, would do that it cannot be found and that i get the kernel panic error ? :D
[02:23] <topyli> sn0n: yes
[02:23] <ZanTuzZ> HappyFool: A boot-cd?
[02:23] <mgcross> Seveas: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../.....what am I missing?
[02:23] <tomaj> Spear: problem number one is not using synaptic ;)
[02:23] <sn0n> its cuz that file... /etc/debian_version  just renaming it to /etc/ubuntu_version
[02:23] <sn0n> in breezy maybe?
[02:23] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: it already is a boot image, but yes, it will be a boot cd
[02:23] <sn0n> ;-)
[02:23] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: you shouldn't need to do anything special
[02:24] <Spear> he he, i didn't use synaptic at all :)
[02:24] <Spear> a good old debian compilation ...
[02:24] <Firsti_> How I can play lxdoom in FullScreen?
[02:24] <ZanTuzZ> HappyFool: Okay... just burn the image to the disk
[02:24] <rephorm> tomaj: ok, as a test, add a line to your crontab to do something simple, like "touch ~/testfile"
[02:24] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: should work
[02:24] <sn0n> what uses /etc/debian_version ?  like is there any harm in editing it  ;-)
[02:24] <rephorm> tomaj: then see if the file exists after the specified time
[02:24] <sn0n> aka : killing it and making an ubuntu_version
[02:25] <topyli> sn0n: then webmin and phpsysinfo won't find the file at all. better to fix phpsyinfo and webmin :)
[02:25] <HappyFool> Spear: why can't you use a precompiled kernel? Wouldn't that be (much?) easier?
[02:25] <thoreauputic> sn0n: why not point your script at /etc/issue ?
[02:25] <ZanTuzZ> HappyFool: thank you so much... i will trie that
[02:25] <ZanTuzZ> try*
[02:25] <tomaj> rephorm: ok testint that now
[02:25] <sn0n> topyli, how? if its using /etc/debian_version   ;-)
[02:25] <Seveas> mgcross, no idea
[02:25] <sn0n> it gets the name from the file
[02:25] <Seveas> it's somthing in the build system of that software
[02:25] <airco> question: does anyone know how to write grep -irs Desk.Admin $(find /home/www/* -name "*jsp") in a single command? (i need to use it in an environment which doesn't support bash syntax)
[02:26] <topyli> thoreauputic: /etc/issue might as well say "Welcome to topyli's b0rken Ubuntu box!" :)
[02:26] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:26] <Seveas> airco, does it support pipes?
[02:26] <topyli> sn0n: make it use /etc/lsb-release
[02:26] <tomaj> rephorm: '26 22 * * * "touch /home/tomaj/text"' didnt work
[02:26] <HappyFool> airco: you can get find to run grep
[02:26] <Seveas> HappyFool, eben better :)
[02:26] <sn0n> ahhh
[02:26] <sn0n> thnx topyli
[02:26] <sn0n> :-D
[02:26] <rephorm> tomaj: take out the quotes :)
[02:27] <tomaj> the ' or the " ?
[02:27] <rephorm> tomaj: "
[02:27] <mgcross> Seveas: hmmm...think it's actually a problem with the source I'm using...will re-download...thanks for the help :-)
[02:27] <spine55> pirast: thanks again I'm back in
[02:27] <parhitean5> bali
[02:27] <ronin> hi all
[02:27] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp -exec grep 'whatever to grep {} .
[02:27] <parhitean5> bawel
[02:27] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' {} .
[02:27] <pirast> spine55: np
[02:27] <airco> Seveas: pipes aren't an opption
[02:27] <Spear> Happyfool : i just wanted to try :D
[02:27] <airco> Seveas: k, thx, i'll try that
[02:27] <Seveas> take the latter
[02:27] <amichai> i saw there is a breezy snapshot release, how can i upgrade through apt without breaking my system? just to experience the snapshot, any ideas?
[02:27] <Seveas> the first one misses a feq quotes :)
[02:28] <Seveas> amichai, better use an install cd to upgradr
[02:28] <Seveas> upgrade*
[02:28] <Seveas> pop it in, and answer yes to the 'upgrade from this cd' popup
[02:28] <tomaj> rephorm im testing
[02:28] <x[x] > woop
[02:28] <amichai> Seveas, is the install cd safe? u tried it?
[02:28] <x[x] > ubuntu is installed
[02:28] <x[x] > and working
[02:28] <Seveas> no guarantees on not breaking :)
[02:28] <airco> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[02:28] <x[x] > thanks to all who helped and too who made this thing
[02:28] <airco> should i put it in '' ?
[02:28] <Seveas> airco, sec
[02:29] <HappyFool> you need a ';' as well for exec
[02:29] <LinuxJones> amichai, I wouldn't upgrade to Breezy quite yet
[02:29] <ronin_> sorry, laggy internet..
[02:29] <spola> congrats!
[02:29] <tomaj> rephorm: touch works
[02:29] <HappyFool> find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' {} ;
[02:29] <HappyFool> you might also need to escape {, } and ;, depending
[02:29] <topyli> amichai: upgrade via apt also worked for me, but that doesn't mean the system is production-ready
[02:29] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' {} ';'
[02:29] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' '{}' ';'
[02:29] <Seveas> quotes all over the place are needed...
[02:29] <pirast> LinuxJones is right, I upgraded and there are  still some problems with dependendics etc.
[02:30] <amichai> topyli, how did u do it? cos i changed everything to breezy and then it just froze and died
[02:30] <topyli> amichai: that's what i did too. oh well, different day, different bugs
[02:30] <topyli> :)
[02:30] <ronin_> does anyone know how i can change the default-OS in GRUB and the waiting period?
[02:30] <amichai> topyli, and its working?
[02:30] <pirast> yes..
[02:31] <sn0n> topyli, i hate you.. LoL.. creating all this work for me
[02:31] <sn0n>  ;-)
[02:31] <tomaj> roning_ start root console and then type nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <pirast> ronin_ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <airco> k, almost there, now i just need the grep to show the name of the file, and adding the usual -irs options doesn't seem to work :)
[02:31] <tomaj> or that
[02:31] <pirast> :-D
[02:31] <topyli> amichai: dunno, the box is at work, i haven't touched it after upgrade
[02:31] <sn0n> i'll just check if the file lsb-release exists, and if it does use it
[02:31] <ronin_> tomaj: pirast
[02:31] <HappyFool> airco: find should show the name if grep matches (i think)
[02:31] <ronin_> thanx,
[02:31] <airco> btw, just out of curiosity, what is the {} for?
[02:32] <airco> HappyFool: well, i'm afraid it doesn't :-/  maybe i can tweak the options of the find command, lemme have a look
[02:32] <tomaj> sudo is better to advise than root console isnt it?
[02:32] <tomaj> rephorm: ?
[02:32] <amichai> yes
[02:32] <ronin_> tomaj: i think so...
[02:32] <tomaj> rephorm: whats happening?
[02:32] <topyli> sn0n: it should exist on any distro that even remotely tries to conform to the standard
[02:32] <sn0n> gentoo
[02:32] <sn0n> dont
[02:32] <sn0n> ;-)
[02:32] <sn0n> a friend is on a gentoo box
[02:32] <sn0n> dont have it
[02:33] <tomaj> gentoo ams for the leet people
[02:33] <HappyFool> airco: stand by...
[02:33] <kameron> gentoo is for ricers.
[02:33] <sn0n> but i wanna keep the script 'distro friendly'
[02:33] <sn0n> ya kno
[02:33] <tomaj> ricers?
[02:33] <topyli> sn0n: i guess gentoo doesn't care about lsb-compliance
[02:33] <sn0n> nope
[02:33] <sn0n> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/96825
[02:33] <kameron> http://funroll-loops.org/
[02:34] <rephorm> tomaj: its not running because the DISPLAY variable isn't getting set. but i can't get it to work here. (again, never done X apps from cron). btw, it should have been "DISPLAY=:0" (with the colon)
[02:34] <kameron> i just got my ubuntu install finally working. i wrestled with the AMD64 version for a few days, and it just wasn't working out, so i'm running the x86 version on my AMD64.
[02:34] <rephorm> tomaj: but, still doesn't work
[02:35] <redlounge> hi. is there an easy way to use the 'win' key with ubuntu/gnome?
[02:35] <tomaj> rephorm: hmm, bummer, but shouldnt it run without the gui bit anyway?
[02:35] <airco> HappyFool: never mind, got it.  grep '-H' does the trick
[02:35] <sn0n> redlounge, sure, use keybindings ?
[02:35] <rephorm> tomaj: is azureus cmd line?
[02:35] <tomaj> its java?
[02:35] <kameron> redlounge: i'm sure there is with keybindings. i know that in kde it gets default set to open the menu.
[02:35] <rephorm> tomaj: but, it runs with a gui, no?
[02:35] <HappyFool> airco: hmm. find is supposed to 'match' if the command returns 0
[02:35] <tomaj> rephorm: it has a console, not sure about cmdline tho
[02:35] <PurpleMotion> off the top of your heads, does anyone know how to search for something in limewire and have an EXCLUSION (example, i would like to search for "blonde" without returning anything that contains "xxx"
[02:36] <PurpleMotion> )
[02:36] <spine55> pirast, if you can can you send me that bug report link again?
[02:36] <tomaj> rephorm: yeah does
[02:36] <kameron> tomaj: it's a rich GUI java app. but you might be able to do it on cmd line, not sure.
[02:36] <redlounge> sn0n, any hint how to do that?
[02:36] <filip_> how can i burn an .avi in ubuntu, i whant to look the movie on an dvd player.
[02:36] <ronin_> tomaj: i believe azureus is java... at least the gui..
[02:36] <sn0n> no clue.. ima user  :-D
[02:36] <pirast> yes, it is java
[02:36] <tomaj> i know its java, problem is can it be run through cron without the gui
[02:36] <PurpleMotion> azureus is great, but DONT use the download bar option, and make sure it STAYS minimized when you're not using it
[02:37] <kameron> filip_ burn it in a vcd or svcd format, make sure your standalone dvd player supports this.
[02:37] <redlounge> sn0n, i know there is system -> settings -> keyboard
[02:37] <PurpleMotion> otherwise it eats memory like a fat kid in a hershey factory
[02:37] <ronin_> tomaj: i dont know...
[02:37] <tomaj> k
[02:37] <filip_> kameron: how to do this?
[02:37] <Whitesocks> Quick question: what package contains the source for common functions like strcpy() etc?
[02:37] <LinuxJones> filip_, you need to transcode the .avi file to the mpeg2 format
[02:37] <giard> anyone having problems installing colony 3?  I'm getting stuck at 91% - Downloading file 4 of 8 (0s remaining)
[02:37] <kameron> filip_ take your pick of programs, i like k3b the best.
[02:37] <tomaj> is there another way to launch programs based on timer?
[02:37] <tomaj> does ubuntu have an autostart feature?
[02:37] <kameron> giard: try a different mirror?
[02:37] <topyli> sn0n: thinking about those tools and scripts, it's not too bad to identify ubuntu as debian. the point is to find the relevant system files in the correct places after all
[02:37] <rephorm> tomaj: ok. change the DISPLAY=0 to DISPLAY=:0 and it should work
[02:38] <filip_> LinuxJones: how can i do that?
[02:38] <LinuxJones> tomaj, yes on both accounts
[02:38] <parhitean1> hai every body what going n
[02:38] <topyli> sn0n: so the difference is just in the name in that sense
[02:38] <HappyFool> airco: ah, i have it
[02:38] <ronin_> bye all
[02:38] <pirast> cu
[02:38] <sn0n> then use that menu redlounge
[02:38] <HappyFool> find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep -q 'whatever to grep' '{}' ';' -print
[02:38] <kameron> hi there parhitean1
[02:38] <LinuxJones> filip_, it depends on what type of .avi file you have best to search google
[02:38] <manusia> hai all
[02:38] <tomaj> rephorm: 38 22 * * * "DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/azureus" doesnt work
[02:38] <giard> kameron: that's during the install
[02:38] <manusia> can I join with you
[02:38] <rephorm> tomaj: no quotes...
[02:38] <tomaj> linuxjones: care to elaborate?
[02:38] <kameron> giard: what?
[02:38] <HappyFool> airco: i think '-print' is the default action, unless you specify one (e.g., with -exec)
[02:39] <sn0n> topyli, what ima do is just check for the file lsb-release if its not there, use the existing /etc-distro file
[02:39] <airco> HappyFool: k, thx
[02:39] <tomaj> rephorm: i tried that but ill try it again
[02:39] <manusia> hiiiiiii
[02:39] <giard> kameron: the install off the disc is almost finished... and then it gets stuck there... there wasn't a place to select a mirror
[02:39] <rephorm> tomaj: whatever you put after the last * has to be a cmd. "foobar" is just a string :)
[02:39] <manusia> mbgmh
[02:39] <topyli> sn0n: yep
[02:39] <kameron> giard: oh, i see what you mean. maybe your cd is crap? any big scratches on it?
[02:39] <tomaj> rephorm ok
[02:39] <sn0n> :-D
[02:39] <maxthon> manusia: hi
[02:39] <sn0n> but im not gonna tinker with webmin
[02:39] <sn0n> i dont use it
[02:39] <sn0n> hehe
[02:39] <pirast> Is the problem with azureus still existing?
[02:39] <tomaj> rephorm: doesnt work
[02:39] <sn0n> only this stats script
[02:39] <sn0n> lol
[02:40] <redlounge> sn0n, ok i got it :)
[02:40] <giard> kameron: I guess I was just asking to see if anyone else has had problems installing colony 3
[02:40] <stizoner> azurues works better/faster on this then does windows
[02:40] <kameron> giard: yeah, i haven't installed it. just trying to give you some basic info here. sorry.
[02:41] <rephorm> tomaj: switch to a console (ctrl-alt-f1 e.g.) and make sure that DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/azureus runs
[02:41] <LinuxJones> filip_, there is at or cron command for time based execution you can start apps when you launch Ubuntu in System >> preferences >> Sessions >> Startup Programs
[02:41] <topyli> sn0n: i'm happy with webmin thinking this box is debian, as long as ubuntu and debian are similar enough
[02:41] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:41] <manusia> lkjb;zkodhfb ignzoig
[02:41] <manusia> ewgkxocivhae lktj ac
[02:41] <manusia> bozdkglkwjpna dufjw
[02:41] <sn0n> i just want it to show a kewl ubuntu icon (which i'll have to make and add)
[02:41] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:41] <manusia> jpst zbjz jgjdkjfg
[02:41] <manusia> dokgjdg
[02:41] <manusia> gjdgojr tdofjbotrh
[02:41] <manusia> gkjdojojejgdg
[02:41] <manusia> dfgkdog
[02:41] <manusia> dfgk
[02:41] <topyli> sn0n: so that the tools work
[02:41] <manusia> fgkfkkg;djgita
[02:41] <sn0n> no.. everything works
[02:41] <kameron> manusia don't flood please.
[02:41] <sn0n> i just want it to say ubuntu
[02:41] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:41] <topyli> manusia: ooh, you can rot13! how 1337
[02:41] <sn0n> and since it looks like its abandoned
[02:41] <sn0n> i'll take up and help it out
[02:41] <stizoner> maybe its his language
[02:42] <tomaj> rephorm: it loads but throws an error
[02:42] <manusia> I"m sorry guys ..
[02:42] <sn0n> update it to use the lsb-release files and other stuff
[02:42] <topyli> yeah right
[02:42] <sn0n> know what i mean ?
[02:42] <kameron> is anyone running AMD64 ubuntu 5.04?
[02:42] <giard> has anyone installed colony 3 yet?
[02:42] <tomaj> that could be because x is running on tty7 couldnt it?
[02:42] <sn0n> alot of people i know use the script
[02:42] <manusia> some1 want talk to me please
[02:42] <tomaj> rephorm: that could be because x is running on tty7 couldnt it?
[02:42] <jkossen> kameron: yup
[02:42] <topyli> sn0n: your plan sounds ok
[02:42] <sn0n> may as well start helping out the poor abandoned thing.. hehe
[02:42] <Grat> manusia what do you want to talk?
[02:43] <rephorm> tomaj: setting the DISPLAY var tells it which X to launch on
[02:43] <kameron> jkhossen, do you mind if i pm you?
[02:43] <tomaj> ok well in that case it doesnt work, maybe the x is wrong?
[02:43] <barongas> I'm trying to find tips where to start troubleshooting on why my mp3-player wont pop up as /dev/sda1. Any ideas?
[02:43] <tomaj> i mean the display bit
[02:43] <jkossen> kameron: not if it's not interesting for the rest of the channel
[02:43] <manusia> anything gues
[02:43] <HappyFool> barongas: take a look at the output of dmesg
[02:43] <HappyFool> barongas: maybe do 'dmesg|tail -f' in a console window, and unplug and plug it in
[02:44] <manusia> Grat anyone here from indonesia ?? I wanna talk with indonesia guy here
[02:44] <kameron> jkossen: the channel is just kind of busy is all, but i'll ask here.
[02:45] <Grat> manusia: im from slovenia
[02:45] <tomaj> rephorm: i get a XLIB connection  to "0,0" refused by server or sth
[02:45] <jkossen> kameron: ok, go ahead
[02:45] <manusia> slovenia ?? where is that ?? europ
[02:45] <topyli> manusia: may i suggest that on #ubuntu you talk mainly about ubuntu
[02:45] <kameron> when i install AMD64 5.04, it installs fine, but when when i boot for the first time my grub is messed up, and i don't get a list of os's to boot to, i just get a command prompt. have you had this problem? i can't get around it. at the prompt, all the commands i type don't do anything. i just installed the x86 version, and it's working fine, i didn't have that problem. any ideas?
[02:46] <stizoner> your supposed 2 chat in #ubuntu-offtopic i guess, nobody yacks there though
[02:46] <tomaj> topyli make that only
[02:46] <barongas> HappyFool When I checked the output of dmesg the only thing regarding usb I could find was seomthing with coreusb finding some hub
[02:46] <Grat> manusia: yes it is in europe. i suggest we go talk private.... ok?
[02:46] <jkossen> kameron: humm...strange, i get the OS list just fine
[02:46] <topyli> tomaj: nooo! half my blabber would become illegal!
[02:46] <tomaj> topyli lol so its alright when you do it huh...
[02:46] <barongas> Happyfool: Registered new driver usbfs
[02:46] <tomaj> hehe
[02:46] <manusia> private chat .. ?? you female or male !
[02:47] <rephorm> tomaj: hmm. echo $DISPLAY from a term in X
[02:47] <jkossen> kameron: what does the command prompt look like?
[02:47] <Grat> male
[02:47] <Grat> but does it matter?
[02:47] <maxthon> hehehe
[02:47] <HappyFool> barongas: if you run 'dmesg|tail -f' you should see things change as they happen
[02:47] <kameron> jkossen, yeah, i've heard that from a lot of people. i'm running fairly well supported hardware, so i'm not sure what could be wrong. generic IDE stuff, DFI Lanparty mobo, AMD athlon 64 3200+..
[02:47] <kameron> i wrote it down, just a sec, let me find it jkossen
[02:47] <ubu> now i hear sound
[02:47] <manusia> grat .. you good guy ...
[02:47] <tomaj> maybe we should start a #ubuntu-personals chanel as well
[02:47] <rephorm> tomaj: and maybe try "xhost localhost" from a term in X and then rerun az from the console
[02:47] <HappyFool> barongas: alternatively, try 'lsusb' when the device is attached
[02:47] <Grat> ah
[02:47] <WasserDragoon> hi@all
[02:47] <tomaj> rephorm: :0.0
[02:47] <manusia> I wait your privat !!
[02:48] <Grat> ellow WasserDragoon
[02:48] <WasserDragoon> everyone speaks german?
[02:48] <Grat> nope
[02:48] <HappyFool> barongas: you can paste the output of that to the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:48] <thoreauputic> tomaj: to encourage humanity towards others ? ;-)
[02:48] <giard> hmmm, I wonder if colony 3 got pulled... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-3/  doesn't work
[02:48] <Grat> everyone speaks german, but i know you nick means Water Dragon :>
[02:48] <WasserDragoon> no one?
[02:48] <manusia> why grat ...
[02:48] <barongas> Happyfool: It gave no output unfortunately
[02:48] <HappyFool> WasserDragoon: not many people; try maybe in #ubuntu-de
[02:48] <topyli> tomaj: yep, #ubuntu-offtopic is still too public :)
[02:48] <Grat> manusia?!?
[02:48] <HappyFool> barongas: none?
[02:48] <zenwhen> hi
[02:48] <barongas> Happyfool and the tail thing said it was a disallowed search
[02:48] <WasserDragoon> ok thanks@happyfool
[02:48] <rephorm> Grat: dragoon != dragon (Drache == Dragon) ;)
[02:48] <tomaj> rephorm: adding localhost didnt change
[02:48] <manusia> I think you talk to me ??
[02:48] <barongas> Happyfool lsusb gave nothing
[02:49] <tomaj> rephorm: same error
[02:49] <HappyFool> barongas: oops, my mistake
[02:49] <Grat> rephorm: sorry :>
[02:49] <HappyFool> barongas: tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[02:49] <WasserDragoon> yes dragoon != dragon
[02:49] <giard> nevermind, now it is
[02:49] <rephorm> tomaj: well, you'll have to figure out how to get az to run from outside of x, then use that cmd in your crontab :)
[02:49] <Grat> manusia: i sent you a msg. if you wish respond, if not do not respond :>
[02:49] <tomaj> rephorm: way over my head lol
[02:49] <rephorm> tomaj: sorry, i'm out of ideas :)
[02:49] <tomaj> should i restart x after adding localhost maybe?
[02:49] <maxthon> manusia: this is a technical assistance chat
[02:50] <manusia> thats why I say you are a good guy ...
[02:50] <rephorm> tomaj: no, the xhost cmd doesn't permanently change things. only for the current instance of x
[02:50] <HappyFool> barongas: anyway, lsusb should at least list something, even if nothing is plugged in (as far as i know)
[02:50] <tomaj> rephorm: i see
[02:50] <barongas> HappyFool It didn't even notice the usb, maybe I'll try another usb port or something if the one on my motherboard hasn't been found by ubuntu..
[02:50] <kameron> jkossen, hmm, i can't find it. it said something like "Grub version xx.xx.xx. Bash like commands work. Press tab for commands." but all commands don't do anything.
[02:51] <barongas> Happyfool, the trail thing is static when pluggin unplugging atm
[02:51] <ElohiteAngel> I tried to install a package a while back (brother hl5150d-lpr driver), it failed for some reason... But the package manager still show the package and everytime I try to install anything it first tries to remove the driver and when that failes (probably because there is no driver to uninstall), it wont continue. Is there anyway to tell it not to bother with the package?
[02:52] <HappyFool> barongas: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is, but it does sound like your usb ports aren't being detected
[02:52] <tomaj> rephorm: thanx for all your help
[02:52] <rephorm> tomaj: np
[02:52] <rephorm> tomaj: can you do something (unrleated) for me real quick?
[02:52] <barongas> Happyfool: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have some usb-card lying around somewhere. Maybe that'll do the trick. Thanks for your time.
[02:52] <HappyFool> barongas: you can maybe look at System -> Administration -> Device manager and see if anything USB related is listed there
[02:52] <HappyFool> barongas: ok, good luck
[02:52] <tomaj> rephorm: so once i figure out how to get it running from tty1 jut put that command in crontab?
[02:53] <rephorm> tomaj: yeah
[02:53] <ubu> the problem is when i play .avi file with xine , it says  /mnt/wind/video/file.avi use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start play back anyway ?
[02:53] <ubu> it saying that ...
[02:53] <ubu> do i need to install codes for xine ?
[02:53] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone know what 'chirico'  is?
[02:53] <tomaj> rephorm: no way! what do you think im like techsupport or something?
[02:53] <ubu> could anyone help me please ?
[02:53] <ubu> i can play mp3 songs with xmms . it is ok
[02:53] <tomaj> rephorm: :P shoot
[02:53] <ubu> when i open .avi file with xine , i got this problem
[02:53] <ubu> manusia, would u please help me ?
[02:53] <tomaj> rephorm: how can i help you
[02:53] <ubu> the problem is when i play .avi file with xine , it says  /mnt/wind/video/file.avi use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start play back anyway ?
[02:53] <ubu> how to resolve that problem ?
[02:53] <ubu> thanks
[02:53] <Grat> ubu: manusia is no longer here
[02:53] <ubu> :(
[02:54] <rephorm> tomaj: :) run xkbwatch in x, then press left_alt + left_shift, then do it backwards (left_shift + left_alt -- shift first then alt while shift is down)
[02:54] <rephorm> tomaj: and tell me how many lights turn on in each case
[02:54] <tomaj> rephorm: lol one sec
[02:54] <ubu> Grat, would u please help me?
[02:54] <rephorm> tomaj: just the # of columns with lights really :)
[02:54] <ubu> the problem is when i play .avi file with xine , it says  /mnt/wind/video/file.avi use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start play back anyway ?
[02:54] <Grat> ubu: trying to google it. i saw whats the problem ;>
[02:55] <HappyFool> ubu: have you read this page? (see below)
[02:55] <HappyFool> !restricted
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <tomaj> how to explain lol
[02:55] <Grat> thats what i was trying to find :>
[02:55] <tomaj> rephorm: how do i describe the light conveniently?
[02:56] <mohkohn> Having a small problem getting my webcam going. I have followed this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=logitech+webcam
[02:56] <tomaj> rephorm: the combinations light up the same lights
[02:56] <rephorm> tomaj: ok, thats enough info.
[02:56] <tomaj> ok
[02:56] <Grat> mohkohn and what the problem? :>
[02:56] <tomaj> rephorm: but in opposite order obviously
[02:57] <mohkohn> [00000235]  v4l demuxer error: cannot open device (No such file or directory)
[02:57] <rephorm> tomaj: here (hoary - amd64) shift-alt only lights up the shift one :)
[02:57] <mgcross> checkinstall ROCKS
[02:57] <mgcross> :-)
[02:57] <mohkohn> [00000237]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[02:57] <mohkohn> Segmentation fault
[02:57] <tomaj> rephorm: lol thats weird so you can alt after pressing shift?
[02:57] <Grat> mohkohn: you sure the device is connected?
[02:57] <james> mohkohn: are you in the audio group
[02:57] <tomaj> maybe its keyboard?
[02:57] <Grat> btw: isnt Segmentation fault a really bad sign?
[02:58] <mgcross> made a .deb file for wallpapoz if anyone would like it....
[02:58] <rephorm> tomaj: nahh, its the xkb setup on here. (i can confirm with xev that the key is sending an event, it just doesn't set the proper modifier flags)
[02:58] <tomaj> rephorm: i have no idea what any of that meant, you lost me at xev hahaha
[02:58] <topyli> Grat: it's very bad for the process in question, yes :)
[02:58] <mohkohn> I am in audio. lsusb Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[02:59] <rephorm> tomaj: messed up modmap :)
[02:59] <tomaj> rephorm: thanx for your help again, have a good night/day!
[02:59] <tomaj> rephorm: thats beyond me too lol
[02:59] <tomaj> night everyone
[02:59] <rephorm> tomaj: hehe. take care
[02:59] <tomaj> bye
[02:59] <Spear> have a good day !
[02:59] <tomaj> you too
[02:59] <Spear> bye
[02:59] <Spear> thanks
[02:59] <mohkohn> lsmod shows quickcam
[03:00] <larsrohdin> Hi, what is the best c++ editor and compiler in linux (ubuntu)?
[03:00] <ElohiteAngel> I tried to install a package a while back (brother hl5150d-lpr driver), it failed for some reason... But the package manager still show the package and everytime I try to install anything it first tries to remove the driver and when that failes (probably because there is no driver to uninstall), it wont continue. Is there anyway to tell it not to bother with the package?
[03:00] <ubu> HappyFool, .avi files are not allowed on ubuntu ?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> larsrohdin, try ajunta and g++
[03:00] <mohkohn> ndiswrapper -l bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[03:01] <mohkohn> When I try vlc it just crashes
[03:01] <HappyFool> ubu: they are; however, in some countries some software is patented (e.g., mp3 in the US), and to avoid legal troubles ubuntu does not distribute this software on the CD
[03:01] <maxthon> ubu: did you install w32codecs?
[03:01] <larsrohdin> wickedpuppy, i cant find ajunta with apt-get isn't it there?
[03:02] <mjr> topyli, only?
[03:02] <manu_> cioa
[03:02] <HappyFool> ubu: if you read the restricted wiki page, you will find instructions on how to install the necessary software
[03:02] <manu_> i just upgrade to ubuntu
[03:02] <topyli> mjr: seems pretty cool: http://www.go-l.com/monitors/athens/features/index.htm
[03:02] <manu_> i have a plugin ptoblem for the sound
[03:02] <larsrohdin> isn't emacs an c++ editor?
[03:02] <manu_> can some one help me
[03:02] <HappyFool> emacs is an everything editor. it's also an irc client ;)
[03:02] <mjr> topyli, not bad, not bad
[03:03] <manu_> i can not read mp3
[03:03] <topyli> mjr: i wonder how much those cost
[03:03] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, ok, because i think thats what i used in widows... ill try it out
[03:03] <topyli> mjr: i might have to upgrade my matrox G550 card too :)
[03:03] <HappyFool> larsrohdin: welcome to the Light Side, my son
[03:03] <HappyFool> ;)
[03:04] <mohkohn> I am really stuck on this can't find anything relevant in google.
[03:04] <manu_> does some one knows the audio plug in for mp3?
[03:04] <HappyFool> manu_: read the restricted page on the wiki (see below)
[03:04] <HappyFool> !restricted
[03:04] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:04] <HappyFool> mohkohn: have you tried 'pkill esd' to make esd give up the sound card?
[03:04] <ElohiteAngel> Anyone know how to deal with my problem? Google didn't fins a solution.
[03:05] <ElohiteAngel> *find
[03:05] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: do you know the package name?
[03:05] <filip_> how can i connvert .avi to MPEG1 or MPEG2 ?
[03:06] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: and do know how to use a terminal and sudo?
[03:06] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, yeah thats what i've heard=)
[03:06] <mjr> filip_, eg. transcode
[03:06] <bread> hi
[03:06] <bread> hi?
[03:06] <HappyFool> ello bread
[03:07] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, yes(hl5150dlpr) and yes.
[03:07] <filip_> mjr: what :S?
[03:07] <bread> yes
[03:07] <bread> i cannot speak korean
[03:07] <sits> hello
[03:07] <mjr> filip_, it was an answer
[03:07] <filip_> mjr: that i understand but what should i do?
[03:07] <bread> becuz, error
[03:07] <bread> help me
[03:07] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, try 'sudo dpkg --purge hl5150dlpr' -- if there are errors, put them on the pastebin
[03:07] <bread> i hope to say korean
[03:08] <zenwhen> i can do that
[03:08] <zenwhen> korean
[03:08] <sits> I would like to report some minor faults in the breezy live cd and I'm too lazy to sign up for a bugzilla account. Where is the next best place to report the faults?
[03:08] <mjr> filip_, apt-get it (might've been in multiverse), then read the docs (I don't know how to use it)
[03:08] <gabriel> hi when i hibernate i resume immediately. can i fix it?
[03:08] <bread> i'm beginner
[03:08] <filip_> mjr: okej i will try it.
[03:08] <bread> anybody, help me
[03:08] <sits> gabriel: check dmesg
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> (Reading database ... 74542 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> Removing hl5150dlpr ...
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5150dlpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> dpkg: error processing hl5150dlpr (--purge):
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel>  hl5150dlpr
[03:08] <sits> gabriel: you might have a device that doesn't suspend properly
[03:08] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: i said 'pastebin'
[03:09] <filip_> mjr: dont find the package
[03:09] <rolo> Anybody knows where to get Skype?
[03:09] <rolo> or some Skype client?
[03:09] <rolo> for ubuntu
[03:09] <HappyFool> !skype
[03:09] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:09] <EasterSunshine> rolo: its in the repos
[03:09] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: you uninstalled this before?
[03:10] <bread> so...sorry...bye ^^
[03:10] <Angrod> is there any Ventrilo clients for Linux?
[03:10] <gabriel> sits i get this answer repeated many times VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[03:11] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Sorry, you got it anyway? And yes, I tried to uninstall it...
[03:11] <gabriel> sits: i get this answer repeated many times VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[03:11] <xst> I have just made a HD install. On the live CD it finely recognized my USB memory stick and showed it in the "My Machine" window. But in the HD install the USB device is not automatically mounted. What to do?
[03:11] <sits> gabriel: Hmm
[03:12] <ElohiteAngel> http://pastebin.com/342223
[03:12] <filip_> how can i get multiverse
[03:12] <sits> gabriel: I can't say I know why that would be but I think you get that sort of error when you try to unmount a disk still in use
[03:12] <troy14> hello
[03:12] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: hmm. according to 'man dpkg', the postrm script is the last thing to be run
[03:12] <troy14> i have an issue with video i could use some help with
[03:12] <h08817> problem here with gnome
[03:12] <gabriel> ill try unmounting all disks
[03:12] <sits> gabriel: could be something is trying to use the hard disk when you try to hibernate and consequently the hibernation process fails
[03:12] <gabriel> sits: ill try unmounting all disks
[03:13] <sits> gabriel: woah
[03:13] <h08817> i don't have 4 desktops anymore
[03:13] <h08817> and i can't click view desktop
[03:13] <sits> gabriel: that shouldn't strictly be necessary
[03:13] <sits> gabriel: but as I said I don't *actually* know why you would be getting that error
[03:13] <troy14> can anyone help me with a distorted video issue?
[03:14] <sits> gabriel: (and if that disk were / then you may have trouble unmounting it)
[03:14] <mohkohn> Got the webcam working. I think I must be blond today! Or grey with oldtimers disease.
[03:14] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: hmm. this may be a bit hacky, but maybe you could edit /var/lib/dpkg/status, and remove the package entry there (or just change its status)
[03:14] <gabriel> sits: ill try unmounting all disks just to make sure
[03:14] <mohkohn> /dev/video0 instead of /dev/video
[03:14] <filip_> how can i get multiverse ?
[03:14] <sits> gabriel: before you do
[03:14] <stizoner> god forbid u could actually right click and mount a drive
[03:15] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: if you want to try this, first make a backup of that file, and then we can give it a go
[03:15] <troy14> ok, but I need to know how to get ubuntu to boot to a prompt instead of gui
[03:15] <sits> gabriel: you may want to do a dmesg -c to clear dmesg out and then do another suspend
[03:15] <tanxarobi> hi! Is here anybody professional in sound settings? I appreciate any kind of help!
[03:15] <gabriel> sits: ok
[03:15] <sits> gabriel: that way you know the messages you see are related to the suspend and not something else
[03:15] <sits> gabriel: (e.g. removing a usb key)
[03:15] <filip_> is it someone that know how i get the damn multiverse ?
[03:16] <HappyFool> filip_: read the pages below
[03:16] <HappyFool> !repos
[03:16] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:16] <roham_> Hi, I want to adjust my touchpad more... tried to install ksynaptics, but it didnt work it want KDE... anyone knows what I should dp?
[03:16] <filip_> HappyFool: thanx
[03:16] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, it says the package status is "purge ok half-installed"
[03:16] <OwnageLinux> are there any good games for ubuntu?
[03:17] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: my idea is to change it to purge ok not-installed
[03:17] <gabriel> sits: very strange. when i give the dmesg -c command the message VFS: busy inodes on changed media. comes out 12 times. not as before 100 or so but only 12
[03:17] <sits> OwnageLinux: what sort of games?
[03:17] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: after you've backed the file up! ;)
[03:17] <mohkohn> Ubuntu is great. I have my sound, webcam, wireless card, Kodak Dx3500 Digicam and thanks to ubuntuguide can listen to mp3's
[03:17] <OwnageLinux> sits: i dunno.... like fun games
[03:17] <mohkohn> Everything works.
[03:17] <sits> OwnageLinux: as in commercial FPS games or something else?
[03:17] <gabriel> sits: i have ho usb keys attached
[03:17] <mohkohn> On a laptop
[03:17] <sits> OwnageLinux: give me an example of what you like
[03:17] <OwnageLinux> sits: ummm i like the windows game infantry.
[03:17] <sits> gabriel: and you haven't plugged and removed any recently
[03:18] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, done. Should I just try to install something or do I need to restart some process first?
[03:18] <sits> OwnageLinux: hmm I've never played that but it sounds like a strategy game
[03:18] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: well, try 'dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop'
[03:18] <gabriel> sits: a few days ago... maybe i need a reboot
[03:18] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: err, 'dpkg -s <yourbrokenpackage', rather
[03:18] <tanxarobi> I can't record sound and can't hear TV. TV sound sorks from TV card but not from sound card line in however they are linked. I tried tried everything in alsamixer but in vain. Can anybody help me?
[03:18] <larsrohdin> so im pretty new to c++ programming, but what does 'Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 mean'? it also says 'no makefile found', so im guessing ive just missed something, but this is the first time i program in linux... help?
[03:19] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, it says "Package `hl5151dlpr' is not installed and no info is available." That's a good thing, right?
[03:19] <gabriel> sits: i'll give it a reboot and try it again
[03:19] <larsrohdin> in emacs that is
[03:20] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: hmm. i'm not sure -- let me check
[03:20] <sits> OwnageLinux: as in Battlefield 1942 Infantry?
[03:20] <OwnageLinux> sits: no
[03:20] <OwnageLinux> sits: its made by harmless games... then purchased by sony..
[03:20] <OwnageLinux> sits: but there is a free version at kickme.to/infinity-zone
[03:20] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: no, i'd expect to see some info about the package
[03:21] <sits> OwnageLinux: ah
[03:21] <xst> Does anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't automatically mount my USB memory stick and shows it in the "Computer" window? -I can see in /var/log/syslog that the device is correctly beeing identified as /dev/sda1. What to do?
[03:21] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: e.g., i get exactly the same message for that package name, but i've never installed it (i'm sure my system knows nothing about hl5151dlpr)
[03:21] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: anyway, might be ok
[03:21] <token> hi everyone. could someone pls tell me how to apply j2sdk to mozilla firefox?
[03:21] <OwnageLinux> sits: lol
[03:21] <sits> OwnageLinux: well looking at that screenshot it looks like a realtime strategy game
[03:21] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, it also says "Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:21] <ElohiteAngel> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents."
[03:21] <tuskernini> wierd, my usb gets picked up fine... not tne cam though
[03:22] <barongas> Ehmm, is there some kind of package I need to install in order to play mp3-files? All the players I've tried freeze or complain they want modules
[03:22] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: yeah, that's not important -- i think that's for looking inside .deb files
[03:22] <OwnageLinux> sits: I would play it right now if i had cedega :\
[03:22] <sits> OwnageLinux: I am not aware of any popular that looks that polished on Linux (but that doesn't mean something doesn't exist). There are turn based ones out there but it doesn't sound like that's what you're looking for
[03:22] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: however, it seems dpkg can't find the hlwutsit package in /var/lib/dpkg/status, which is a bit weird
[03:22] <token> could someone tell me how to apply java to mozilla firefox?
[03:23] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, can you help me get started with emacs?
[03:23] <barongas> token I think you can download some compilable jre thing from suns site..
[03:23] <HappyFool> larsrohdin: give me a few minutes
[03:23] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, sure
[03:23] <reiki> token: did you istall the java package?
[03:23] <hardw1re> anyone got a quickcam messenger running on an x86_64 system?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> !java
[03:23] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:23] <OwnageLinux> sits: where do i get a compiled cedega?
[03:23] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, yeah, I figured it was just some extra. / Shoudn't that just be like never having installed it in the first place?
[03:23] <sits> OwnageLinux: http://www.happypenguin.org/ is a big list
[03:23] <sits> OwnageLinux: you pay for it
[03:23] <Spug> how can i check what graphics card i'm using? what's the name of the hardware listing tool, if there is one?
[03:24] <sits> OwnageLinux: (honestly that's the easiest way to get it)
[03:24] <token> reiki: downloaded sun-j2sdk1.5
[03:24] <barongas> Spug Try the device manager in gnome
[03:24] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: not exactly -- dpkg should still know about it, because it's still listed in the 'status' file
[03:24] <OwnageLinux> sits: i don't wanna pay for it :-\
[03:24] <Spug> barongas: i'm in flux right now, though :/ what's it called?
[03:24] <sits> OwnageLinux: Fair enough. I'm out of bright ideas there.
[03:24] <OwnageLinux> sits: lol
[03:24] <reiki> token: ok... after I did that I simply closed out of all instances of FireFox and restarted it. Then it was installed. :)
[03:24] <barongas> Spug: System -> Administration -> Device manager
[03:25] <token> reiki: doesnt work for me
[03:25] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: this is fairly important; if that file is broken, your system could get confused
[03:25] <Spug> barongas: no, see, i don't have the system menu
[03:25] <Spug> i'm in fluxbox
[03:25] <sits> gabriel: generally speaking, rebooting rarely makes problems go away on linux
[03:25] <token> reiki: but i should get it out on wiki.ubuntu thx for trying to help :)
[03:25] <barongas> Spug Ooooh
[03:25] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, so what can I do?
[03:26] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: did you make a backup?
[03:26] <phantom_> hi people
[03:26] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: of 'status', i mean
[03:26] <Ummmmm> roflmao did you say 'backup' ?? tee hee hee
[03:26] <phantom_> anyone here has sound problems with Audigy 2ZS in Ubuntu?
[03:26] <phantom_> i jsut installed it.. the sound card is detected, but no sound
[03:27] <sits> no takers on my "where do I report minor bugs other than bugzilla" question?
[03:27] <gabriel> sits: well i gave it a reboot and now dmesg gives me all info of startup. did dmesg -c and finally cleaned list
[03:27] <token> reiki: now i see the problem not j2sdk but j2re -> bug
[03:27] <token> :)
[03:27] <gabriel> sits: now i go back trying hibernation
[03:27] <sits> gabriel: ok
[03:27] <reiki> token: ta-da! :)
[03:27] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, of course.
[03:28] <phantom_> can anyone help resolve my sound probelm? I have no sound
[03:28] <DrTiger> Hey, I cannot contact archive.ubuntulinux.org
[03:28] <Ummmmm> get an ipod?
[03:28] <sits> phantom_: not uncommon alas
[03:28] <sits> phantom_: I know it's obvious but did you check the volume(s)?
[03:28] <DrTiger> thus I can't download any restricted packages anymore
[03:28] <phantom_> yes
[03:28] <DrTiger> though it worked when I connected a few days before
[03:28] <sits> phantom_: how are you trying to play sound?
[03:28] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:28] <BiSK-8> in what folder is "totem"?
[03:29] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, i think restore that file from backup, and try the 'dpkg -s hlwutsit' command again -- if it gives the same 'i don't know message', then i guess nothing's changed. If it doesn't, then try re-editing the status file, but be careful not to introduce extra characters/spaces etc
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Spug: you could type  " lspci -v | less "
[03:29] <barongas> Anyone have any ideas why no mediaplyer wants to play mp3? My soundcard gives off sound perfectly.
[03:29] <phantom_> well no welcome sound comes up.. and does not play sound from audio cd
[03:29] <sits> BiSK-8: whereis totem
[03:29] <sits> phantom_: steady on
[03:29] <DrTiger> can anybody help me?
[03:29] <sits> phantom_: you've got potentially two different problems there
[03:29] <sits> phantom_: has sound ever worked?
[03:29] <phantom_> no
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[03:29] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:30] <sits> phantom_: what does "lspci | grep audio" say?
[03:30] <BiSK-8> sits, usually the exacutabels are in what folder?
[03:30] <hobbit__> is it possible to reinstall gnome?
[03:30] <DrTiger> hey, is archive.ubuntu.com accessible for you guys?
[03:30] <sits> BiSK-8: depends on the executable and whether it is needed for system boot
[03:30] <Z0l> hi
[03:30] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:30] <sits> BiSK-8: however the whereis command looks in all the common places
[03:30] <BiSK-8> tks
[03:30] <DrTiger> apt can download most package info files to my computer but not from archive.ubuntu.org
[03:30] <Xenguy> DrTiger: yes
[03:30] <ronin> hy all
[03:31] <gabriel> sits: i got between many lines a fatal one here it is: swsusp: FATAL: cannot find swap device, try swapon -a!
[03:31] <hobbit__> my gnome is acting up and if i minimize something it is gone
[03:31] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop  <--- more or less gnome
[03:31] <sits> gabriel: ah there you go
[03:31] <sits> gabriel: no swap - no suspend :)
[03:31] <hobbit__> ok
[03:31] <hobbit__> thanks
[03:31] <Xenguy> DrTiger: (I can browse there; I didn't try apt-get)
[03:31] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: that probably won't help
[03:31] <DrTiger> I can't browse it -.-
[03:31] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: reinstalling won't change the configuration
[03:31] <DrTiger> it's strange
[03:32] <ronin> does anyone know how i can mount a ntfs-partition in ubuntu? the /mnt folder appears to be empty
[03:32] <james> ronin: you have to mkdir first
[03:32] <hobbit__> what is the command to restart gnome without restarting ur computer?
[03:32] <DrTiger> well maybe my windows system can connect...
[03:32] <gabriel> sits: that easy... but i did put under sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst the path of the swap. where did i get it wrong?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: if your task bar has disappeared you just need to add it
[03:32] <vtsangwon> hobbit: killall gnome-panel
[03:32] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, http://pastebin.com/342234
[03:32] <Spug> thoreauputic: thanks, that did the trick :)
[03:32] <hobbit__> ahh ok
[03:33] <ronin> james: i'm quite new in linux... so i've got just to make a folder named "ntfs"?
[03:33] <sits> gabriel: do you have any swap on at the moment?
[03:33] <james> ronin: mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/ntfs -t ntfs ???
[03:33] <reiki> is there a proper way (without disturbing teh channel) to have the bot check on the availability of a program? For example... I want to see if POPFile is packaged...
[03:33] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: right click the panel, try the applet list
[03:33] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: weird
[03:33] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, ?
[03:33] <gabriel> sits: if i give a print under parted on hda i see swap partition hda6
[03:33] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: isn't it hl5150dlpr ?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: you can't see minimised apps, right?
[03:34] <Z0l> can i migrate to breezy only by changing my sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade? i'm using sid atm
[03:34] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, i just reinstalled the desktop and i don't have my 4 desktops and my programs i have open aren't listed on the toolbar
[03:34] <sn0n> http://sn0nsb0x.info/~rob/stats.php
[03:34] <sn0n> w00t w00t
[03:34] <gabriel> sits: that's why i put under menu.lst resume=/dev/hda6
[03:34] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: as I said , you can add those to the toolbar/panel from the right-click list
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: but does /etc/fstab refer to any swap partitions
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: the stuff you are editing refers to partitions to use when resuming
[03:35] <topyli> sn0n: w00t indeed =)
[03:35] <sn0n> hehe
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: ok here's an easy one
[03:35] <sn0n> i said forget using that system
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: what does the last line of free say?
[03:35] <sn0n> ima start my own
[03:35] <sn0n> lol
[03:36] <sn0n> for my own personal use
[03:36] <sn0n> hehe
[03:36] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, right! My bad! (D'oh!). It says http://pastebin.com/342237
[03:36] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, ok i got it almost back to normal but how do i get my currently opnen programs to show up? in the bar?
[03:37] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, now try doing that edit again (half-installed -> not-installed) and do the "dpkg -s hl5150dlpr" again
[03:37] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: hmm - I'm in fluxbox, but I think "window list" is what you want
[03:37] <topyli> sn0n: make it display all this script does: http://siltala.net/comp/system-info.sh :)
[03:38] <hobbit__> how do i do that?
[03:38] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Done. It says http://pastebin.com/342239
[03:38] <sn0n> sure
[03:38] <sn0n> :-D
[03:38] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: the "system tray" thing is called "notification area" BTW
[03:38] <ronin> james: i made a folder "/mnt/ntfs" and then executed the mount-order.. but it still doesn't work. it says mounting point /mnt/ntfs doesn't exist
[03:38] <hobbit__> ok thanks for that information
[03:38] <gabriel> sits: /etc/fstab has /dev/hda7       mountpoint:none            type:swap    options:sw but from parted i get my swap partition on hda6. what is the lasta line of free?
[03:38] <sn0n> topyli, all that page says is
[03:38] <sn0n> m1
[03:38] <sn0n> lol
[03:38] <Sly> hey, what ssh packages do i have available
[03:38] <sn0n> and m2
[03:38] <sits> gabriel: do free
[03:38] <hobbit__> how do i run windows list?
[03:38] <topyli> sn0n: i just noticed. debugging... :)
[03:38] <sn0n> lol
[03:38] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, so far so good. Now test if synaptic or apt-get complain about installing packages
[03:38] <sits> gabriel: and what does the line that starts Swap: say?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Sly: openssh-server
[03:39] <hobbit__> o i found it
[03:39] <gabriel> sits: 0 0 0
[03:39] <hobbit__> but thats the wrong one
[03:39] <hobbit__> no thats right
[03:39] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: according to 'man dpkg', all the files *should* be removed, but i'm not sure what effect not running the post-remove scripts will have
[03:39] <Sly> thanks you :)
[03:39] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, thanks all is well now
[03:39] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: just bear this in mind if you have problems in the future
[03:39] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: you're welcome :)
[03:39] <topyli> sn0n: simple typo! http://siltala.net/comp/system-info-sh :)
[03:39] <gabriel> sits: I have ho swap mounted then i guess
[03:40] <h08817> anyone know of a good place to start learning C++ and a good compiler?
[03:40] <sn0n> lemme runit
[03:40] <sn0n> 1sec
[03:40] <ronin> h08817: test dev-cpp, but i dont know if its available for linux:(
[03:41] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Well it can't be that bas considering that the package was never really installed. And I will.
[03:41] <h08817> o
[03:41] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, It worked! Thanks!!
[03:41] <sn0n> that shows alot of useless things
[03:41] <sn0n> i like it
[03:41] <sn0n> lol
[03:41] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: cool :-)
[03:41] <resmo> hi
[03:41] <topyli> sn0n: the kernel config info might be a bit overkill though :)
[03:41] <h08817> how do i get the linux compiler to work?
[03:41] <thoreauputic> h08817:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:42] <h08817> like execute it
[03:42] <h08817> i opened synaptic and installed it
[03:42] <sn0n> ok
[03:42] <sn0n> its bed time now
[03:42] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Thanks again! Finally I can install something...!
[03:42] <sn0n> gf's gonna be waking up soon
[03:42] <topyli> sn0n: also, i think i had to personalize it for my username, so
[03:42] <topyli> night
[03:43] <ronin> h08817: http://ladedu.com/cpp/ i started cpp here...
[03:43] <h08817> thoreauputic, so build-essential is a ?
[03:43] <h08817> ok thanks ronin
[03:43] <sits> gabriel: mmm
[03:43] <GNULinuxer> h08817: it's a meta-package ...
[03:43] <h08817> thoreauputic, o ok a compiler
[03:43] <resmo> i updated the kernel using the ubuntu-update tool, but uname -a says that i use 2.6.10-5, is that normal?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> h08817: it has gcc , g++ etc - it's a metapackage for compiling
[03:43] <ronin> h08817: i forgot its in german:( sorry man...
[03:44] <HappyFool> h08817: also maybe look here for C++ intro: http://ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS/cpp.php
[03:44] <h08817> well can't do that maybe i can get google to translate it for me
[03:44] <HappyFool> h08817: i think some of bruce eckel's books (thinking in c++) might be available for download too
[03:45] <ronin> do i have to download something to mount a ntfs-partition?
[03:45] <gabriel> sits: should i just get the swap partition mounted like an hard disk?
[03:45] <sits> gabriel: basically I think your fstab is looking at the wrong partition for swap
[03:45] <sits> gabriel: but it would take about three commands to verify this
[03:46] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:46] <gabriel> sits: on partition hda7 i have a small booting partition of acronis
[03:46] <sits> gabriel: fdisk -l | grep swap
[03:47] <sits> gabriel: what does that say?
[03:47] <gabriel> sits: for backing up purpuses on wxp
[03:47] <h08817> thoreauputic, so how would i use this compiler? open gedit and enter all the code then go back to the prompt and do a gcc filename?
[03:47] <gabriel> sits: no answer... it run smoothley
[03:48] <sits> gabriel: sounds like you have no swap partition to mount
[03:48] <vader1102> bob2, thanx to everyone in here, I have been hired as a network admin running Ubuntu on their workstations and a bunch of other stuff for their servers, first real job in 3 years..........thank you everyone
[03:48] <thoreauputic> h08817: I'm not a programmer, sorry - I use gcc to compile source with ./configure etc...  I think you can call the compiler with "cc"
[03:48] <sits> gabriel: unfortunately fixing that is a mildly involved process with major consequences if you get it wrong
[03:49] <sits> gabriel: I just don't have the time to talk you through fixing something like that...
[03:49] <h08817> never mind i found some good info
[03:49] <kemik> gcc -o outputfile source.c
[03:49] <gabriel> sits: no problem. at least i know where to look now. i could not figure out myself i didn't have a swap partition
[03:50] <sits> gabriel: ok. sorry you didn't get a final solution
[03:51] <ompaul> h08817, g++ -o foo  hello.cpp
[03:51] <EasterSunshine> trying to unmount a smbfs, i get umount: /home/silvertear/Silvertear.Phazon: device is busy <--what processes can be locking it up?
[03:51] <ompaul> h08817, if you want to do c++
[03:51] <ubu> is there any suitable player to play *.avi,*.mp3,*.DAT,*.mpeg,*.wma on ubuntu ?
[03:51] <Angrod> why do i get this error when i try to recive a fil in X-chat: DCC RECV: Cannot open /home/bateau/Desktop/lol_itachi_aeger_kisame.jpg for writing
[03:51] <Angrod> i am logged inn as the right user  :x
[03:51] <gabriel> sits: i got a good solution. a good start to get to a solution. thanks a lot! :)
[03:51] <ubu> i used MPlayer , but when i open mplayer , it is playing with full screen mode and i couldnt return to my desktop
[03:52] <vader1102> Easter have you tried mount -t?
[03:52] <ronin> by the way... anybody knows a good visual cpp tutorial?
[03:52] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:52] <EasterSunshine> vader1102: i mounted it with -t smbfs, now i am trying to UNmount it
[03:52] <hmrocha> ronin, use monodevelop
[03:52] <ompaul> s/panet/planet
[03:52] <vader1102> woops sorry Easter ;-)
[03:52] <ubu> any idea ?
[03:52] <kemik> EasterSunshine: not sure if you can use FUSER to see which pid is using the devic.e.. worth a try
[03:53] <hmrocha> ronin, and try gtk instead of MFC
[03:53] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> vader1102: its ok
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> kemik: thx
[03:53] <ronin> hmrocha: whats that? and mfc?
[03:53] <ubu> which player r u using to play .dat,.wav,.wma,.mpeg..avi ?
[03:53] <hmrocha> ronin, MFC is the graphics library you use when you're coding visual apps with C++ in windows
[03:53] <kemik> ubu:  VLC and rhythmbox
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> hmm...fuser locks up
[03:54] <ompaul> ubu try ctrl+c
[03:54] <hmrocha> ronin, Gtk is used to code visual apps for gnome
[03:54] <ubu> kemik, VLC player ?
[03:54] <hmrocha> ronin, MFC only runs on windows, Gtk runs in windows and linux
[03:54] <kemik> !vlc
[03:54] <ronin> hmrocha: i'd like to programm for linux & windows...
[03:54] <ubotu> it has been said that vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[03:54] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:54] <hmrocha> ronin, good
[03:54] <ubu> ompaul, why ctrl+c ?
[03:54] <ronin> hmrocha: where can i get monodevelop?
[03:55] <kemik> ubotu forget vlc
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, you should use C# instead of C++
[03:55] <ubotu> kemik: i forgot vlc
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, download mono and monodevelop
[03:55] <ompaul> ubu you asked to stop mplayer
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, you won't regret it
[03:55] <ronin> hmrocha: c# is just for windows, isnt it?
[03:55] <ubu> kemik, now i'm installing vlc
[03:55] <ompaul> ubu it may help
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, no, it's for linux too
[03:55] <ubu> ompaul, ctrl+c didnt help me :)
[03:55] <ubu> ctrl+d
[03:55] <kemik> ubotu vlc is it has been said that vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support, it's available in the repositories
[03:55] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[03:56] <ubu> also
[03:56] <ronin> hmrocha: cool, where can i get mono-develop? or have i to google?
[03:56] <ompaul> ubu ctrl z to throw it into the background
[03:56] <kemik> oh damn.. did i fuckup with ubotu ?
[03:56] <kemik> !vlc
[03:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vlc is it has been said that vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support, it's available in the repositories
[03:56] <hmrocha> ronin, www.go-mono.com
[03:56] <spike> hi there
[03:56] <hmrocha> ronin, start with that site
[03:56] <kemik> hmm.. well well
[03:56] <spike> Seveas: hi, you there?
[03:57] <ubu> ompaul, i tried with alt+crtl+f1 and tried alt+ctrl+f7 :D
[03:57] <ronin> hmrocha: thx
[03:57] <spike> Seveas: I never received any email about that loop-aes bug u said u reported... and actually can't find it on bugzilla
[03:57] <ubu> i dont kow why mplayer doesnt want to return to my desktop
[03:57] <hmrocha> ronin, are you using linux or windows now?
[03:57] <ompaul> hehe
[03:57] <cfq> hi everyone
[03:58] <spike> mmmh, gooooood
[03:58] <thoreauputic> ubu: try hitting "f"
[03:58] <cfq> i've got a toshiba laptop and i can't get any battery status
[03:58] <ronin> hmrocha: now at this moment i'm using ubuntu... but i've got wxp on this pc too
[03:58] <kemik> hmrocha:  why use C# instead of C++ ?
[03:58] <spike> ompaul: how's you man?
[03:58] <cfq> apm says there's no apm support in the kernel
[03:58] <cfq> and acpi doesn't work
[03:58] <ompaul> spike take it private :)
[03:58] <hmrocha> kemik, C# has garbage collection for example
[03:58] <kemik> hmrocha:  may aswell use Java then
[03:58] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:58] <hmrocha> kemik, C++ is not managed
[03:59] <hmrocha> kemik, Java is evil
[03:59] <kemik> and C# is not ? :)
[03:59] <ronin> kemik: java is quite slow... i'm going to learn java by tomorrow...
[03:59] <hmrocha> kemik, Sun Microsystems has some strange licenses
[03:59] <hmrocha> kemik, C# specification is open
[03:59] <ronin> hmrocha: just what i think;)
[03:59] <thoreauputic> [PG] _Sinnlos: your question doesn't make much sense, but i think you want to know how to install and run lirc - why not use gaim (installed by default)
[04:00] <hmrocha> ronin, java is not slow
[04:00] <cfq> hmrocha: java spects are also open
[04:00] <lui> hello people
[04:00] <cfq> s/spects/specs
[04:00] <hmrocha> cfq, really? i didn't know that
[04:01] <lui> anybody can tell me which is the command to check the root filesystem?
[04:01] <hmrocha> cfq, but anyway, the compiler can't be redistributed
[04:01] <[PG] _Sinnlos> well i have a problem with the lirc-module-source shit :( i don't know what i should do with this
[04:01] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: are you using mono?
[04:01] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, yes
[04:01] <thoreauputic> [PG] _Sinnlos: ah sorry - wrong package (I thought you meant licq)
[04:01] <ronin> hmrocha: already tried to do a network application? i've heard a lot of things ;) but i think it's greatest fault is java isnt standalone... you need the java server
[04:01] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: Are there sitll things it doesn't support?
[04:02] <hmrocha> ronin, i use Azureus, and it a lot times faster than the bittorrent app for gnome, which is coded in C
[04:02] <cfq> hmrocha: there is also a free compiler i guess. the fastjavac.
[04:02] <hmrocha> cfq, it suports java 5?
[04:02] <[PG] _Sinnlos> thoreauputic: right lirc or lirc-modules-source
[04:02] <cfq> hmrocha: it is used by netbeans, and since netbeans is open source...
[04:02] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i don't know, i'm coding an app that doesn't need a GUI
[04:02] <lui> anybody can tell me which is the command to check the root filesystem?
[04:02] <hmrocha> lui, fsck
[04:02] <cfq> hmrocha: it should. netbeans uses it.
[04:03] <hmrocha> cfq, cool, i like netbeans a lot
[04:03] <cfq> i have problems with my acpi support. can anyone help me?
[04:03] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: Oh ok, I'm using .NET for a long time now, just wondering, haven't had any experience with .NET apps under linux yet
[04:03] <thoreauputic> [PG] _Sinnlos: don't know, sorry
[04:03] <ronin> hmrocha: i use azureus too,.. but even its just downloading 20kbs i almost cant use the internet its so slow! (ive got a 160kbs wire)
[04:03] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i don't use windows at home
[04:03] <[PG] _Sinnlos> knoiw anywhere what over lirc ??
[04:03] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, never used .net
[04:03] <kallesoe> Hi
[04:03] <gabriel> sits: i guess is not as simple as changing in fstab hda7 with hda6 isn't it?
[04:03] <lui> hmrocha: thank you. :)
[04:04] <hmrocha> ronin, i use azureus and i think it's really fast
[04:04] <kallesoe> any one who can help me with installing nvidia audio driver on a nforce board?
[04:04] <sits> gabriel: no
[04:04] <ronin> hmrocha: maybe it's just my pc... ;)
[04:04] <hmrocha> ronin, a language is not slow, the compiler implementation might be more or less good
[04:04] <sits> gabriel: from what you told me your partition table basically says none of your partitions are swap partitions
[04:04] <gabriel> sits: ok ill look for tutorials on the web
[04:05] <hmrocha> hmrocha, if you use gcj, it's far more slow than sun's compiler
[04:05] <ronin> hmrocha: could be, i dont know... already! in a week or so i'll know more
[04:05] <lfalvarez> sits: Have you ever used bind ?
[04:05] <sits> lfalvarez: yes
[04:05] <hmrocha> ronin, i use java at school too :)
[04:05] <hmrocha> ronin, i think you'll love java, it's one of the best languages i know
[04:05] <gabriel> sits: fstab reported /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw
[04:06] <ronin> hmrocha: are you student?
[04:06] <hmrocha> ronin, computer science student
[04:06] <gabriel> sits: so i guess the sistem sees a swap partition but it's the wrong one
[04:06] <cfq> acpi
[04:06] <cfq> i need acpi support
[04:06] <ronin> hmrocha: oh, i'm learning programmer
[04:06] <cfq> help me!
[04:07] <lfalvarez> sits: I have a problem I got a dns in my machine. I can ping mail.myserver.com, but I can't telnet mail.myserver.com 25. I'm using postfix
[04:07] <hmrocha> ronin, you don't know anything about programming?
[04:07] <sits> gabriel: I'll try and explain
[04:07] <ronin> hmrocha: gonna start my second year tomorrow;)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  be a little more clear and specific perhaps
[04:07] <dfeed> Hi, anyone know how I can get the actual packet data from a blocked connection on my firewall?
[04:07] <Pogopuschel-> Making GUIs with java is horrible
[04:07] <sits> gabriel: your system has been told partition 7 on disk one is swap
[04:07] <Pogopuschel-> :)
[04:07] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, horrible why?
[04:08] <sits> gabriel: however NONE of your partitions appears to be a swap partition. So you can't just change it to point to the right partition because there is no right partition...
[04:08] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, it's really simple!
[04:08] <h08817> ok u programming people
[04:08] <ubu> kemik, vlc is now ok
[04:08] <cfq> dr_willis: i have a toshiba laptop and i can't get battery status
[04:08] <ubu> thanks u
[04:08] <Pogopuschel-> All these frameworks, swing, awt, etc :)
[04:08] <ubu> which player could play *.rm file ?
[04:08] <Pogopuschel-> what do you use? eclipse?
[04:08] <hmrocha> ronin, i'll start my 5th year in 5th september
[04:08] <h08817> how in the world do u save a file as .cpp
[04:08] <ubu> could realplayer play *.rm files ?
[04:08] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, you don't use awt anymore, only swing
[04:08] <pef> hi
[04:09] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i use emacs
[04:09] <ronin> hmrocha: how many years do you have to do? my apprentice is 4 years...
[04:09] <XandriX> anyone here know a good crack the code game ?
[04:09] <hmrocha> ronin, mine is 4 years too, but i have to finish some disciplines i failed
[04:10] <Pogopuschel-> For things i can do with .NET within several minutes i need much more time with java
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  yep. I have had similer issues with laptops in the past. often its a matter of waiting for  a new kernel to come out ane eventually support all the features.
[04:10] <Grat> ellwo
[04:10] <funkyHat> all my system sounds are very distorted, but sound from other programs is fine, can anyone help me fix it?
[04:10] <ronin> oh..:( what have you learned already?
[04:10] <Grat> ellow*
[04:10] <Pogopuschel-> The only reason i use java is because of its interoperability
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  got a Compaq V2311 right now - that has some very bad issues in linux. But the latest testing kernels seem to be better with it.
[04:10] <hmrocha> ronin, a lot of stuff :)
[04:10] <hmrocha> ronin, i must finish the maths from the 1st and 2nd year
[04:11] <tsw> how could I test which one of two machines in network is the bottleneck? server or client?
[04:11] <cfq> Dr_Willis: it is a toshiba laptop. L10 i guess. apm says kernel has no support
[04:11] <h08817> ronin, no but i want to make sure i have basics down pat like write in gedit then save as a .cpp and then g++ .cpp to test what i am doing
[04:11] <cfq> Dr_Willis: and acpi just doesn't work.
[04:11] <ompaul> h08817, that is a function of the editor you are using, or if you want you can put data in a file using the cat command , cat > hello.cpp - then when you press enter you can start to enter data - but you can't make mistakes in this case :)
[04:11] <gabriel> sits: when i installed linux ubuntu it asked to automatically do 2 partitions in free space. it did 1 bigger partition for system files hda3 and one smaller for swap hda6. hda7 is a previous existing partition in fat 32. all the others not mentioned  are in ntfs for wxp. pitty it didn't get it automatically. maybe should try deleting tryky partition and reinstalling from scratch.
[04:11] <cfq> Dr_Willis: i need to get battery status. the computer keeps shutting down. and this is a centrino chipset machine.
[04:11] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, interoperability with what?
[04:12] <ronin> hmrocha: oh, stuff like that... i hate this school-things..
[04:12] <h08817> ompaul, what about vim can i still do the same switch like vim >hello.cpp?
[04:12] <cfq> Dr_Willis: even /proc/acpi/battery is empty. i can't get any values.
[04:12] <Pogopuschel-> I can be pretty sure that these apps will run under linux as they will under win
[04:12] <hmrocha> ronin, why?
[04:12] <ubu> could realplayer play *.rm files ?
[04:12] <kemik> hmrocha:  java works on all platforms
[04:12] <ubu> could realplayer play *.rm files ?
[04:12] <hmrocha> kemik, .net is supposed to work too
[04:13] <sits> gabriel: be careful. I know too many people who have ruined their partition table and lost work due to getting partition table sizing wrong
[04:13] <hmrocha> kemik, python too
[04:13] <sits> gabriel: at any rate I can't help you there
[04:13] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: But afaik there are many features mono doesn't support
[04:13] <hmrocha> kemik, you even have python in some nokia cellphone
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  yep - i feel your pain. You have checked the variouis linux-laptop pages and the Ubuntu laptop wiki/forums yet for your specific brand?
[04:13] <ompaul> h08817, no you would use commands within vim so vim filename.cpp starts the process, then you press i in the file to start inserting data but if your going to do that  get a 'help sheet' online print it aand have it to hand
[04:13] <sits> lfalvarez: your problem doesn't sound like a DNS issue
[04:13] <kemik> hmrocha:  "supposed"
[04:13] <gabriel> sits: okeydokey. i got the message. thanks a lot!
[04:13] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, maybe there are, but i never needed anything mono didn't have
[04:13] <ronin> hmrocha: it's just simple learning! no thinking (except maths ;) ) we also have accountancy
[04:14] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: some time ago i developed a program, to automatically upload some files in a queue to a freehost service, etc
[04:14] <kemik> python seems very useful actually... though i've never coded in it yet
[04:14] <Pogopuschel-> just didn't work under linux, even without gui
[04:14] <lfalvarez> sits: any ideas ?? Some missing postfix configuration ??
[04:14] <ompaul> h08817, better if you use 'nano'
[04:14] <cfq> Dr_Willis: most of them say that i need to patch the kernel. i don't want to rebuild my kernel now. i am using ubuntu 5.04.
[04:14] <sits> lfalvarez: too many possibilities
[04:14] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, what language?
[04:14] <Pogopuschel-> C#
[04:14] <sits> lfalvarez: can you ping the machine in question?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> h08817: for an intro to vim type " vimtutor" in a terminal
[04:14] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, strange, but i believe you :)
[04:14] <h08817> ok
[04:14] <lfalvarez> sits: yes
[04:14] <cfq> Dr_Willis: also i see that toshiba is the worst brand for these stuff :-)
[04:15] <Pogopuschel-> I've never made some experience with mono myself, because the only linux machine i'm running here is debian as a server, no desktop
[04:15] <lfalvarez> sits: its the same machine. I have in this machine a dns, webserver, mailserver
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  your options are limited then. They are basicially saying that the laptop is not supported yet in your current kernel (bad).. but will be in the next kernel versions (which is good)
[04:15] <sits> lfalvarez: but telnet localhost 25 does what? Returns immediately?
[04:15] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i hope you'll try mono again sometime in the future
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  Ive been in identical spots in the past.  in 6 mo or so..  the thing should be supported fine. :(
[04:16] <Pogopuschel-> i will :)
[04:16] <kemik> for crossplatform i'd either do Java or c++ and try to avoid platform dependant libs.. (which is hard if you code certain apps ;) )
[04:16] <lfalvarez> sits: telnet localhost 25 works fine!!
[04:16] <cfq> Dr_Willis: i wonder where can i find acpi documentations. i may write my own.
[04:16] <Fade> there's a syntax error in the postinstall script for the base-config package in security
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  THAT is a very big and complex issue. sadly. the problem i hear is that the vendors/makers dont follow the specs all the way.
[04:16] <ompaul> Fade, how so?
[04:17] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, ronin, kemik, cfq, bye now, i have to code some lines for my app
[04:17] <Fade> there's an unterminated for loop
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  so then the linux kernel guys got to do specific patches/tweaks for each screw up by the companies.
[04:17] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: bye :)
[04:17] <Seveas> Fade, hoary or breezy?
[04:17] <Fade> hoary
[04:17] <Seveas> hmm
[04:17] <Seveas> linenumber?
[04:17] <cfq> Dr_Willis: thank you very much.
[04:17] <ronin> hmrocha: bye too
[04:17] <cfq> Dr_Willis: see you around.
[04:17] <Fade> line 57.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  good luck man. the forums/wiki are the places to watch also.
[04:18] <Fade> s/\\/\;/
[04:18] <cfq> Dr_Willis: i may try to reverse engineer.
[04:18] <kemik> hmrocha:  good luck
[04:18] <ronin> is somebody out there who knows how to mount a ntfs-partition
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  you will need MUCH good luck then.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:18] <hmrocha> kemik, thanks, i'll need it
[04:18] <kemik> !ntfs
[04:18] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:18] <cfq> Dr_Willis: lol! thanks man.
[04:18] <kemik> ronin ^
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  same as ya mount any other partition.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> the installer can resize? i must of missed that.. of course I do normally put linux on its own hard drive
[04:19] <ronin> dr_willis: i've got a message mountpoint doesn't exist. in the folder /mnt is no folder "ntfs"
[04:20] <ronin> kemik: i didnt understand you
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  well the directory you are mouinting to HAS to exist simply put. :P if you are mounting to /mnt/foo -- then you MUST mkdir /mnt/foo
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> first :P
[04:21] <sits> lfalvarez: I think I know what's going on
[04:21] <Seveas> Fade, hoary base-config postinst is correct
[04:21] <ronin> dr_willis: just a mkdir? ive done this, and mounted then... but it came the same message.. ill try again
[04:21] <sits> lfalvarez: btw which address did you say you were trying?
[04:21] <Seveas> the forloop does start in line 59
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  mount has very poor and generic error messages at times. :P
[04:21] <stizoner> out of all the faq and forum and stuff .... i found this documentation to be the best, it has simple cut paist how 2 mount  http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[04:22] <Seveas> lines 32-58 are the list it loops through
[04:22] <ronin> dr_willis: can be.. this is my first linux-day ;)
[04:22] <Fade> the last line in the final for clause isn't 'apt-setup/security-updates-failed \   <\n\t> do ...'
[04:22] <Fade> ?
[04:22] <kemik> ronin:  follow the link ubotu pasted...
[04:22] <Seveas> ronin, run the winmac_fstab script somoeone gave you earlier
[04:22] <lfalvarez> sits: mi ip address. the one I put int /etc/network/interfaces
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  google for  'linux mount drive tutorial' or check the ubunto url and the wikis.
[04:22] <Seveas> it doesn't get easier than that
[04:22] <kemik> !tell ronin about ntfs
[04:23] <kemik> ronin:  see your pm
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> it pays to learn how drives and things get mounted however. :P
[04:23] <stizoner> the unofficial documentation is better then the offical, lol
[04:23] <sits> lfalvarez: and that was?
[04:23] <stizoner> tiz k
[04:23] <ronin> kemik: whats "pm"?
[04:23] <Fade> I'm looking at base-config 2.70
[04:23] <kemik> ronin:  private message
[04:23] <Seveas> Fade, that's line 39
[04:23] <Seveas> ok, i'm looking at 2.62 which is the hoary version
[04:24] <Fade> I'm on powerpc.
[04:24] <ronin> ah! yes thx for sending ;)
[04:24] <Fade> but I am tracking hoary.
[04:24] <spike> Seveas: hi
[04:24] <Seveas> 2.70 is not a hoary version...
[04:24] <spike> Seveas: did u see my message above?
[04:24] <oonoon> hi, i'm using samba to print on a win printer which is connected to a computer of my network ; when i try to restart samba '/etc/init.d/samba restart' it's ok to stop samba daemons but fails to start them
[04:24] <Seveas> spike, no
[04:25] <spike> Seveas: I never received any email about that loop-aes bug u said u reported... and actually can't find it on bugzilla
[04:25] <Seveas> spike, 2.70 isn't even in breezy
[04:25] <Seveas> you must be using a debian or 3rd party repository...
[04:26] <Duvel> oonoon, restarting only works when they are started i think
[04:26] <ronin> dr_willis, kemik: here's the (new) error:mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[04:26] <ronin>        missing codepage or other error
[04:26] <ronin>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[04:26] <ronin>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
[04:26] <ronin>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try      dmesg | tail  or so
[04:26] <Seveas> ronin, do NOT paste in here
[04:26] <Fade> well, I'll sort through my sources.list and double check.
[04:26] <gabriel> amazing
[04:26] <ronin> seveas: sorry
[04:26] <Duvel> oonoon, try smbd start;nmbd start
[04:27] <kemik> ronin:  after runing the script ?
[04:27] <Seveas> ronin, and either read the mount documentation or use the script that has been given to you 2 times
[04:27] <Sly> another quicky apt-get_able vnc clients ?
[04:27] <ronin> no, doing a normal mount
[04:27] <Seveas> Sly, there's one installed by default
[04:27] <ronin> seveas: ok
[04:27] <gabriel> sits: i need to tell you this
[04:27] <kemik> ronin:  follow our advice, or do not ask for it :P
[04:27] <Sly> =X
[04:28] <Sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ vnc
[04:28] <Sly> bash: vnc: command not found
[04:28] <Sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ vncviewer
[04:28] <Sly> VNC viewer version 3.3.7 - built Oct 28 2004 23:56:22
[04:28] <Seveas> spike, it's a universe package
[04:28] <ronin> kemik: sorry :( i was too impatient..
[04:28] <Sly> found it =D
[04:28] <oonoon> Duvel : i do it, i get no msg in output
[04:28] <gabriel> sits: i've changed in fstab hda7 to hda6 and now when i run free i get swap free
[04:28] <Seveas> spike, so I filed it on malone
[04:28] <Seveas> which does not allow me to CC you on the bug, you will need a launchpad account for it and subscribe yourself
[04:28] <gabriel> sits: whent for hibernation and works!
[04:28] <sits> gabriel: ah I guess I was wrong then
[04:28] <vtsangwon> Anyone know howto change the gnome menu/panel configuration such as  Application -> Program or change to international characters
[04:28] <oonoon> how can i see the status of samba ?
[04:28] <sits> gabriel: weyhey! Just goes to show - don't listen to me :)
[04:28] <spike> Seveas: yeah, I remembered that, but there's no search function on malone...
[04:29] <Seveas> sec...
[04:29] <spike> ah
[04:29] <ronin> thx for help to all...
[04:29] <spike> I had to click "Bugs"... it was highlited... thought that was the current page...
[04:29] <spike> Seveas: nm
[04:29] <spike> sorry
[04:29] <gabriel> sits: well i just gave it a try. and it works! thanks a lot!
[04:29] <Seveas> spike, it's bug 1742
[04:29] <sits> gabriel: don't thank me - you solved your own problem despite my (wrong) advice
[04:30] <oonoon> Duvel : what does 'smbd start' ?
[04:30] <spike> doh, not even assigned...
[04:30] <Seveas> nope :|
[04:31] <spike> Seveas: what if I work on that? I'm horribly busy but I could allocate a couple of nights to it...
[04:31] <spike> Seveas: what's the procedure?
[04:31] <Seveas> spike, the motu would welcome you and probably will try to persuade you to do more ;)
[04:31] <Alex> Got this annoying problem - Hoary will not load on this box. THe pressed cd, just does not boot.
[04:31] <gabriel> sits: just one more little question. when i add nolapic to menu.lst i manage to shutdown completly the sistem. but at the next reboot i get the nolapic cut out and of course the sistem freezes before actually switching off. any idea of how making change permanent?
[04:32] <carajean206> hello room can anyone help me install ie 6?
[04:32] <Seveas> the 'procedure' is uploading a fixed package to REVU and aataching a comment to the bug. telling someone in #ubuntu-motu when you uploaded it helps too :)
[04:32] <Seveas> If you don't want to do all the hassle, but just fix, send me the patch and I'll do the REVU/MOTU dance for you
[04:33] <thoreauputic> carajean206:  cat ie6 > /dev/null   <---- why ie6 in a linux channel?
[04:33] <carajean206> to install wine
[04:33] <carajean206> but for internet sufing firefox
[04:34] <Seveas> carajean206, you don't need IE6 for wine...
[04:34] <carajean206> i follow the wine cvs install on the forums
[04:34] <carajean206> and it used winetools and that requires the install of ie 6 to go any futher
[04:34] <carajean206> plus i dont want to pay for wine again
[04:34] <kemik> carajean206:  you install ie6 from within winetools
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> pay for wine ? wine is free
[04:35] <carajean206> i know but when i do its says failed cause it cant download the components check internet connections
[04:35] <vtsangwon> anyone know the directory for changing menu under gnome? using ubuntu hoary
[04:35] <carajean206> wine is free since when
[04:35] <carajean206> ?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> carajean206: ? wine is GPL
[04:36] <carajean206> i was paying like 15 for 3 months for wine cedega point to play stuff
[04:36] <thoreauputic> carajean206: do you mean Cedega?
[04:36] <Seveas> carajean206, internet connections does not mean IE6...
[04:36] <ompaul> carajean206, 'apt-get install wine' Wine is free software. The licensing terms are the GNU Lesser General Public License
[04:36] <Seveas> and cedega is not wine
[04:36] <carajean206> will wine let me install games?
[04:36] <mindmedic> carajean206, not many
[04:36] <carajean206> hmm
[04:37] <mindmedic> look at frankscorner.org for some examples
[04:37] <mindmedic> carajean206, what do you want to play?
[04:37] <funkyHat> guys, you know how cedega is available free from the CVS, what liscence is that under?
[04:37] <carajean206> i want to play world of warcraft
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> funkyHat, cedega is not free ...
[04:38] <carajean206> i have played it before using linux now im back with linux
[04:38] <funkyHat> i know
[04:38] <vader1102> I want to use wine to do one certain chat program but this far have been unsuccessful trying it
[04:38] <Alex> All the other releases hvae booted, so I can't work out why Hoary won't.
[04:38] <funkyHat> wickedpuppy, but you can download it from the CVS...
[04:38] <stizoner> mirc? lol
[04:38] <mindmedic> carajean206, i think that only works with cedega..
[04:38] <CookedGryphon> what chat program?
[04:38] <vader1102> Paltalk
[04:38] <mindmedic> funkyHat, but a lot of 3rd party stuff is missing in cvs...
[04:39] <funkyHat> ok. but what liscence is it available under?
[04:39] <stizoner> gaim and all those are way better then paltalk
[04:39] <vader1102> I just have some friends in there that won't convert
[04:39] <carajean206> ok isnt there a cvs version of cedega?
[04:40] <manu_> does some one know how to use skype with esd ?????
[04:40] <funkyHat> carajean206, yes, but that isn't as likely to run WoW as the paid-for version
[04:40] <Alex> Hey - are there any other Ubuntu support channels?
[04:40] <funkyHat> and is harder to set up
[04:40] <mindmedic> funkyHat, dunno, but maybe have a look at their website
[04:40] <manu_> i always have to kill esd to make it work
[04:40] <ompaul> carajean206,  funkyHat, read this for the information you want - it is well beyone the scope of this channel http://www.transgaming.com/terms_of_use.php - they want you to subscribe to their software
[04:40] <manu_> ????
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> Alex, this is THE one
[04:40] <oonoon> 'NT_STATUS_ACESS_DENIED' when i'm printing on a network printer ... what to do?
[04:41] <ompaul> manu_, if you wait a few seconds longer it may die naturally
[04:41] <CookedGryphon> try a different sound daemon than esd, oss or summat
[04:41] <Alex> wickedpuppy: I know that - thought there might be affiliate channels - it just gets a bit drowned out (questions) in here 8)
[04:41] <manu_> esd?
[04:41] <h08817> im a noob and need some help here
[04:41] <manu_> die naturaly
[04:41] <manu_> ?
[04:41] <funkyHat> esd doesn't close itself on its own
[04:41] <manu_> when i wait a the start from skype
[04:41] <manu_> ?
[04:41] <funkyHat> manu_, i've set up all my sound with alsa, it's not too challenging
[04:42] <ompaul> h08817, you are trying to learn to program am I right?
[04:42] <h08817> using ubuntu and was wondering how do i write information in a file then compile it to become executable
[04:42] <h08817> ompaul, yes
[04:42] <mjr> where does evolution store its account information?
[04:42] <manu_> is it better than esd
[04:42] <manu_> ?
[04:42] <carajean206> wow they want me to pay 3 month in advance i doubt i be on linux that long
[04:42] <ompaul> h08817, use the program nano to create and edit files
[04:42] <sn0n> hmmm
[04:42] <h08817> what is that?
[04:42] <h08817> o ok
[04:42] <h08817> duh
[04:43] <Hakon> hello
[04:43] <thoreauputic> h08817: you can use any text editor of course
[04:43] <h08817> ompaul, sudo apt-get install nano?
[04:43] <CookedGryphon> vim rocks
[04:43] <ompaul> h08817,  is it not already on your system?
[04:43] <Alex> If anyone does have an idea about why Hoary won't boot, give me an elbow.
[04:43] <thoreauputic> h08817: it's installed by default
[04:43] <manu_>  other question : how to mount my windows xp folders ?
[04:43] <h08817> thoreauputic, i know but i just don't understand how to get the compiler to make a file exe so i can run it
[04:43] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[04:43] <ubotu> kwrite is better than emacs
[04:44] <Alex> Heya thoreauputic.
[04:44] <h08817> lol
[04:44] <funkyHat> hahaha
[04:44] <manu_>  ?
[04:44] <stizoner> manu_ theres like a 100 topics in the forum about that and in the documentation
[04:44] <manu_> :(
[04:45] <Seveas> manu_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[04:45] <funkyHat> manu, there is an auto configuration script for mounting windows partitions
[04:45] <ompaul> h08817, you do not need to make exe files -that is a silly convention on some other system you are thinking about - your execuitable file on linux can be anything foo for instance or my.little.execuitable are both legal
[04:45] <thoreauputic> h08817: I assume you just save it as foo.c or whatever then compile that file ...
[04:45] <funkyHat> ooh, there it is ^
[04:45] <ray_> nano is cool for quick editing
[04:45] <Seveas> stizoner, giving people an RTFM is bad practice in this channel...
[04:45] <h08817> ok i'll see what i can do
[04:45] <stizoner> Seveas,  i was actually doing the same thing...  http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[04:46] <manu_> :)
[04:46] <manu_> thanks
[04:46] <Seveas> that guide is on crack, way too complicated for too little result
[04:46] <Seveas> (the mounting part that is)
[04:47] <ompaul> h08817, http://www.cs.wm.edu/cspages/computing/tutorial/gpp.html that might be a little easier for you to cope with all the info in one place read that first and then see how you go
[04:47] <Seveas> and it looks way too much like a kubuntu-version of ubuntuguide
[04:47] <stizoner> it puts out for real cheap?
[04:47] <h08817> ok thanks
[04:47] <Seveas> which it probably is
[04:47] <firestorm> Hi. I'm new to Ubuntu. I have apt-get install steghide to try using steghide for JPG files but get the run-time error: steghide not compiled for support with JPEG files. Can ubuntu's package manager deal with such compile-time issues or am I forced to manually download source, compile and circumvent apt?
[04:48] <stizoner> yeah cause kubuntu kicks ass
[04:48] <Seveas> stizoner, well, you should not be kubuntu-specific in here, there's #kubuntu for that
[04:48] <stizoner> there both exactly the same
[04:48] <stizoner> except gnome and kde
[04:48] <Seveas> that's quite a difference...
[04:48] <DonL> I have a question about multipe kernel headers
[04:48] <wareagle> hi, i am very new to computers, however do not want to use any win products .  Is ubuntu an OS, and if so is it user frindley?
[04:48] <DonL> multiple
[04:48] <amichai> anyon here use skype?
[04:48] <funkyHat> does anyone have the pastebin script from paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[04:48] <ompaul> stizoner, very different things those two
[04:48] <Seveas> firestorm, looking at it
[04:48] <smurfix> firestorm: looks like a packaging bug -- report a bug, and compile from source in the meantime
[04:49] <Seveas> funkyHat, yes, I have :)
[04:49] <Seveas> (since I wrote it)
[04:49] <ompaul> amichai, I have been known to
[04:49] <funkyHat> hehehe
[04:49] <funkyHat> i can't get it to run properly :(
[04:49] <amichai> ompaul: with gnome?
[04:49] <firestorm> smurfix: thanks
[04:49] <ompaul> amichai, yes
[04:49] <Seveas> funkyHat, what's the prob?
[04:49] <funkyHat> i did sudo ./pastebin --install
[04:49] <funkyHat> when i do pastebin, or pastebin --help it just hangs
[04:50] <Seveas> it should :)
[04:50] <Seveas> there is no --help
[04:50] <funkyHat> ok
[04:50] <funkyHat> lol
[04:50] <amichai> ompaul: can u help me? i cant get the right sound settings, i can her the other person but they can hear me. i got it working before.
[04:50] <Seveas> and you should simply pipe output to it
[04:50] <thoreauputic> wareagle: Ubuntu is a distribution of GNU?Linux, which is indeed an operating system
[04:50] <DonL> Some time ago I installed the amd specific K7 kernel, and I just noticed today when I received an update from Ubuntu that it updated the 386 headers and the K7 ones. Is there a problem having both?
[04:50] <amichai> ompaul: they cant hear me
[04:50] <funkyHat> well i've made a ~/.pastebinrc
[04:50] <ompaul> amichai, had it working on ubuntu?
[04:50] <Seveas> DonL, no
[04:50] <amichai> ompaul: yes
[04:50] <thoreauputic> *GNU/Linux
[04:50] <bur[n] er> funkyHat: blah > blah.txt
[04:50] <grogoreo> hi
[04:50] <Seveas> funkyHat, some_command with params | pastebin
[04:50] <DonL> Seveas, ok. Thanks. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?
[04:50] <funkyHat> so it would be for example cat file.txt > pastebin
[04:50] <kevor> no funkyHat always do >>, because > clears the whole txtfile
[04:51] <Seveas> well, having both installed is useless :)
[04:51] <amichai> ompaul: what r ur setting in the sound manager?
[04:51] <funkyHat> :S
[04:51] <funkyHat> so should i do >> or | ?
[04:51] <ompaul> amichai, first have you any other sounds playing?
[04:51] <spola> hahahaha gentoo is horrible
[04:51] <DonL> What all can I uninstall then to lighten it up then?
[04:51] <kevor> depends, what do you wana do?
[04:51] <funkyHat> or doesn't it matter?
[04:51] <amichai> ompaul: no
[04:51] <ompaul> amichai, first should have been are you running hoary?
[04:51] <amichai> ompaul: yes
[04:51] <Seveas> funkyHat, |
[04:51] <Seveas> >> redirects to a file
[04:51] <Seveas> | to a new command
[04:51] <ompaul> amichai, then the problem is elsewhere
[04:52] <grogoreo> I've plugged in an old Epson GT8500 scanner into my parrelle port on my computer (even though it came with a bi-derectional card (but in ISA format not PCI)) but have changed, in my BIOS, to bi-directional. How do i firstly install it or use it? I have sane installed
[04:52] <amichai> ompaul: i got it running twice before by turning off LFE or something, but not now
[04:52] <funkyHat> ok :) thanks
[04:52] <amichai> ompaul: mic?
[04:52] <carajean206> has anyone tried the cvs cedega version?
[04:52] <CookedGryphon> Is it possible to get Rhythmbox to recognise wma files? cos i am reading my media off my old XP partition and can't be bothered converting them, if not, what program can i get that will recognise them?
[04:52] <ray_> ive got the .deb
[04:52] <ompaul> amichai, you have no other audio working, as that is how I read what you already told me
[04:52] <h08817> ompaul, i don't know
[04:52] <ray_> CookedGryphon: do you have w32codecs
[04:52] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, afaik: no
[04:53] <h08817> ompaul, this seems to be hard it doesn't even work right
[04:53] <Alex> Right, I think I'm going to install Warty and upgrade.
[04:53] <amichai> ompaul: right should i use esd or alsa
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> i cannot kill this process `14550 ?        00:00:01 smbiod` when i sudo killall smbiod, and when i kill 14550, it remains in `ps -A`
[04:53] <h08817> ompaul, i tried the plain first program and it just crashes why i use g++ i guess there is a problem in the code
[04:53] <Seveas> amichai, esd
[04:53] <ompaul> h08817, what seems hard? what doesn't work right?
[04:53] <h08817> ompaul, the hello world one
[04:53] <CookedGryphon> can i get the w32 codecs from ubuntu's package manager/
[04:54] <funkyHat> amichai, esd unless it causes you any problems, it's fine for most people
[04:54] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, try kill -9 14550
[04:54] <ompaul> h08817, let me look at it
[04:54] <funkyHat> not for me because i have 2 soundcards and other odd requirements ;P
[04:54] <CookedGryphon> i think i have all the gstreamer codec packages
[04:54] <h08817> !pastebin
[04:54] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:55] <raven3x7> !tell CookedGryphon about extras
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: thx, the process is gone now, but my original problem was that some process is using my mounted smbfs so ican't unmount it
[04:55] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, yes you can get the windows codecs from synaptic, you may have to add extra repositories though
[04:55] <smurfix> EasterSunshine: that's a kernel process.  Does anyone know why this might be?
[04:57] <DonL> haha
[04:57] <h08817> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1470
[04:57] <Seveas> mdke, did you install openssh-server on it?
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: i am on kde, gnome is not even installed
[04:57] <alex__> hey all
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> smurfix: thx, but fuser locks up
[04:58] <mdke> Seveas, yes i connect fine in the terminal
[04:58] <DonL> Back later...
[04:58] <mdke> Seveas, only nautilus doesn't seem to work
[04:58] <alex__> i am trying to encrypt my /home, /var, and /tmp folders. all of those folders are under LVM2 control
[04:58] <alex__> i used cryptsetup to encrypt them
[04:58] <Simian> i've looked at the ubuntu wiki for how to automaticly start programs when gnome starts but had no luck
[04:58] <alex__> and everything's fine
[04:58] <zero_> is there some german irc channel?
[04:58] <Simian> can anyone point me in the right direction
[04:58] <raven3x7> #ubuntu-de
[04:58] <alex__> however i am having trouble mounting the directories at boot
[04:58] <zero_> thx
[04:59] <ray_> Simian: it is easy
[04:59] <Seveas> mdke, hmm, sup-process sftp enabled in sshd.conf?
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> h08817, try iostream ... no ,h
[04:59] <alex__> see, the passphrase is stored on a usb stick that is automatically mounted at boot
[04:59] <mdke> Seveas, i'll have a look
[04:59] <smurfix> EasterSunshine: Ouch -- that shouldn't happen. Is your smb server dead? Does "umount -f /mount/point" work?
[04:59] <ray_> Simian: go into system administration and go into sessions
[04:59] <amichai> q
[04:59] <amichai> uit
[04:59] <Simian> ok
[04:59] <raven3x7> h08817 .h is c style
[04:59] <ray_> Simian: add the program you want to start
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> smurfix: yes, the server went off last night, and it is even back on today
[05:00] <zwnj> i added mod-ssl to mods-enable, but i cannot connect to https://localhost:80/ yet.  what's the problem?
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> smurfix: umount -f still complains that the filesystem is busy
[05:00] <mdke> Seveas, yes looks like it
[05:00] <mdke> Subsystemsftp/usr/lib/misc/sftp-server
[05:00] <Simian> thanks ray_
[05:01] <ray_> Simian: no prob........what is the app you want to start
[05:01] <Seveas> hmm, sftp from terminal works too?
[05:01] <Simian> beagle
[05:01] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, Gnome, KDE, or others desktop UI will sometimes cause that. restarting GDM or KDM might resolve the problem.
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> zwnj, have you restarted apache?
[05:01] <Simian> firestarter
[05:01] <mdke> Seveas, no, that must be the problem I guess
[05:01] <mdke> Request for subsystem 'sftp' failed on channel 0
[05:02] <vader1102> This afternoon I have to install Windows Server 2003 to complete my Network + course......ewwwwwwwww
[05:02] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: do you suggest killall kdm?
[05:02] <ompaul> h08817, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1473
[05:02] <ray_> vader1102: yeah ive been there done that
[05:02] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, no no, sudo /etc/init.t/gdm restart
[05:02] <ray_> vader1102: where are you from?
[05:02] <vader1102> and then they want me to get my server 2003 cert too
[05:03] <vader1102> Ont Canada
[05:03] <vader1102> you?
[05:03] <ray_> cool
[05:03] <ray_> New Hampshire
[05:03] <ray_> not too far
[05:03] <vader1102> awesome
[05:03] <cheleb> zwnj: try https://localhost:443
[05:04] <zwnj> wickedpuppy: of course ;)
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> zwnj, try nmap localhost ... see if you get https
[05:04] <h08817> ompaul, what is the -o switch for?
[05:04] <zwnj> cheleb: i added "Listen 443" to ports and tried https://localhost too
[05:04] <h08817> ompaul, for g++
[05:04] <ompaul> h08817, to create output the file name
[05:05] <spola> i get a lot of gzip errors when i try to apt-get update, also when i try to upgrade often my downloads will fail in the middle (never happens when i download far bigger "stuff") ... what's the up with that?
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> h08817, try g++ -o prog_name prog_name.cpp
[05:05] <mdke> Seveas, might be a breezy bug i guess, because it looks like it is setup right, although i'm no expert on ssh
[05:05] <Seveas> mdke, me neither, I was just summing up possible points of failure
[05:05] <ray_> spola: paste your sourceslist in #flood
[05:06] <zwnj> there's no problem with http over 80 and 443, but https doesn't work on both of them
[05:06] <Seveas> mdke, does /usr/lib/misc/sftp-server exist?
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> zwnj, have you tried nmap ?
[05:06] <zwnj> wickedpuppy: yes, 443 is open
[05:06] <ompaul> h08817, you can also join #c++ and they have a list of helpful urls in the topic for programming C++
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> ah
[05:06] <nubbe> How do I make an irc-link in FF open in an existing x-chat window?
[05:06] <Seveas> mdke, in hoary it is just /usr/lib/sftp-server
[05:06] <mdke> Seveas, you're right!
[05:07] <mdke> Seveas, i'll try changing it
[05:07] <Seveas> mdke, slocate sftp-server :)
[05:07] <oonoon> someone knows samba well here?
[05:07] <ray_> whats the diff between locate and slocate
[05:07] <mdke> Seveas, it's in the same place as hoary
[05:07] <carajean206> ok i got another question when i see screenshots of other peoples desktops i see they have weather apps and mem usage stuff on it how do i get that?
[05:08] <Seveas> mdke, well, you found the problem then :)
[05:08] <Seveas> please file the bug
[05:08] <ray_> carajean206: right click on the panel....click add app
[05:08] <spola> when using a mirror, should i use something like ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ubuntu.com/ (which has two subdirectories: releases & ubuntu) or do i have to add the .../ubuntu? (the ubuntu dir has about 5 dirs .. misc pool projects etc...) and use ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/?
[05:09] <carajean206> and this will put those tranparent ones on my desktop?
[05:09] <mdke> Seveas, notabug ;) I accidentally used a sarge sshd_config file
[05:09] <cheleb> carajean206: apt-get install gdesklets
[05:09] <ray_> carajean206: are you using gnome
[05:09] <mdke> Seveas, have amended the address and works now
[05:09] <carajean206> ok i will try that
[05:09] <carajean206> yes i am
[05:10] <carajean206> ok i apt desklets
[05:10] <mdke> thanks Seveas
[05:10] <CookedGryphon> okay, still can't dl the w32 codecs, have added all the repositories mentioned but i can't find it
[05:10] <carajean206> now what?  the stuff is all messed up
[05:11] <ray_> messed up how
[05:11] <ray_> CookedGryphon: u added the backports.........
[05:11] <oonoon> i've got weird problems with samba
[05:11] <carajean206> um for like some of them i get wierd like letters
[05:11] <oonoon> i can crash it, allowing me to stop it but not to start it again
[05:11] <CookedGryphon> the backports repository?
[05:11] <ray_> CookedGryphon: its w32codecs        with no space
[05:11] <BearyB> hi everyone  ;)
[05:11] <CookedGryphon> yeah
[05:11] <oonoon> i must completely remove it and then reinstalling and then it works
[05:12] <CookedGryphon> lol i know
[05:12] <carajean206> i cant drag any of the stuff to the desktop
[05:12] <ray_> CookedGryphon: paste your sources.list in #flood
[05:12] <EasterSunshine> okay who was it that made me restart kdm?
[05:12] <ray_> no me
[05:12] <ablyss> me
[05:12] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: thx, it worked
[05:12] <carajean206> ok now how to get desklet working?
[05:12] <spola> omg i noticed a horribly confusing translation error when using apt-get !! is there anyone i could write about this?
[05:13] <ablyss> yvw
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: however...it has eliminated my godly aim uptime and dcc trasnfers
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> :)
[05:13] <ablyss> hehehe
[05:13] <ray_> EasterSunshine: what was your aim uptime?
[05:14] <EasterSunshine> ray_: about 50 days, but i can understand if you have more, its godly compare to the other ppl on my buddy list
[05:14] <ray_> EasterSunshine: no i dont have more......most i ever had was like 17 days
[05:14] <michi> hello, how can i control the mouse sensivity for my usb mouse?
[05:14] <CookedGryphon> ray : done
[05:14] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, the planetmirror mirror of extras is broken
[05:15] <ompaul> spola, was it apt-get that had the problem or some application? register your bug on Malone
[05:15] <ray_> CookedGryphon: did you apt-get update
[05:15] <cheleb> carajean206: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31928&highlight=howto+gdesklets
[05:15] <oonoon> i've got the feeling with linux that almost every error become irreversible, and deteriorate the quality and the stability of the environnement
[05:15] <ray_> CookedGryphon: the backports repo is commented out in your sources.list
[05:16] <ray_> CookedGryphon: remove the # before the backports
[05:16] <CookedGryphon> lol so it is
[05:16] <Seveas> oonoon, that's with windows :)
[05:16] <spola> it said: after unpacking [the downloaded programs]  an additional XXX meg will be *freed* on your harddrive so maybe it's not as bad as i put it first but im still gonna get to malone about it
[05:16] <Seveas> on linux errors are easier to resolve in my experience
[05:16] <CookedGryphon> that's cos i copied the list direct from the link ubotu sent me
[05:16] <CookedGryphon> without looking what it said
[05:16] <spola> the dutch translation is horrible actually
[05:16] <dalamar> some people get lucky and install error free too heh
[05:16] <LinuxJones> oonoon, what makes you say something like that ?
[05:17] <asfra> hi, I have a problem with a process called gnome-video-thu, frequently it uses almost all my memory and causes the system to stall if I don't shut it down. What does this process do?
[05:17] <kevor> lets lynch him :P
[05:17] <ompaul> kevor, wheres the humanity in that?
[05:17] <EasterSunshine> kevor: i think it was this channel where we lynched someone using mirc...he wasn't running it with wine
[05:17] <kevor> oh crap, #ubuntu :P
[05:18] <kevor> or fun too: root@hostname
[05:18] <ompaul> hehe
[05:18] <kevor> oonoon: all those settings that are reversable take down the speed of the OS :)
[05:19] <oonoon> LinuxJones : my stuff with nvidia card and samba for network
[05:19] <kevor> no problem with samba. i love it
[05:19] <carajean206> ok guys im really tired of this ownership stuff and being root can anyone tell me how to take it off. i cant even create new folders?
[05:19] <snorks> !ati
[05:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:19] <oonoon> LinuxJones : things work sometimes, and then it doesn't anymore for an unknown reason, and then i must start everything from the beginning and it works again, but it's quite tiring to reinstall everything everytime
[05:19] <kevor> smbmount //computername/user password=pass user=user gid=me uid=me
[05:19] <CookedGryphon> carajean206: log in as root
[05:19] <kemik> carajean206:  "sudo chmod -R a+rwx /*" <- tho it's highly not recommended
[05:20] <kevor> oh and a mountpoint in there somewhwere :P
[05:20] <asfra> hi, I have a problem with a process called gnome-video-thu, frequently it uses almost all my memory and causes the system to stall if I don't shut it down. What does this process do and is it a normal behavior?
[05:20] <ray_> carajean206: where are you trying to create a folder...........never log in as root
[05:20] <CookedGryphon> surely it would b easier to log in as root while installing then go back
[05:20] <Seveas> asfra, gnome-video-thumbnailer is the full name
[05:20] <CookedGryphon> fine then, sudo everything
[05:20] <carajean206> im tryin to creat it in /home/carajean
[05:20] <kemik> carajean206:  or "sudo -s" "sudo su" or just use "sudo" prefixed
[05:20] <dalamar> the nvidia thing should be easy as well, im using an ancient nvidia card and the drivers work fine for me
[05:20] <oonoon> Seveas: i hoped it wouldn't be so with linux, indeed, everytime i modify something i make backup from the original files and it doesn't seem to be enough, ;when installing rep, i don't know how many things are out of control and deeply modifying the system without my permission
[05:21] <CookedGryphon> logging in as root is fine if ure not an imbecile
[05:21] <carajean206> going through the file system
[05:21] <ray_> carajean206: oh so you must be root already
[05:21] <asfra> Seveas: ok, does it create thumbnails?
[05:21] <carajean206> well i am
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> anyone here knows how to rar ?
[05:21] <oonoon> Seveas:it's not that far of the windows way of life
[05:21] <Seveas> asfra, yes
[05:21] <carajean206> if i was i could make the folder but it says i dont have permission
[05:21] <kemik> carajean206:  "ls -lha" will let you see which user/group is owner and which filepermissions are set
[05:21] <Seveas> oonoon, that has not been my experience and i fiddle around a lot with (ub)installing packages
[05:21] <dalamar> sudo mkdir
[05:22] <kemik> carajean206:  and you really should readup about filepermissions/owners etc
[05:22] <asfra> Seveas: ok, thanks.. but anyway, it uses alot of memory and almost no CPU?
[05:22] <Seveas> asfra, it should run only for a few milliseconds...
[05:22] <Seveas> otherwise it is stuck somewhere and should be killed
[05:22] <CookedGryphon> carajean: sudo chmod a+rwx <directory>
[05:22] <kemik> Seveas:  tried compiling rhythmbox 0.9.0 from source?
[05:22] <carajean206> thanks that worked
[05:23] <CookedGryphon> which one>/
[05:23] <Seveas> kemik, hehe, no :)
[05:23] <kemik> carajean206:  well, doing "sudo mkdir" is perhaps not what you want, since now you've created yet another "root" folder in your homedirectory
[05:23] <CookedGryphon> ?*
[05:23] <ray_> YUP
[05:23] <dalamar> you should be able to create any dir in your home directory without sudo
[05:24] <dalamar> its elsewhere in the filesystem it should be needed
[05:24] <kevor> carajean206: when you use sudo, be sure what ur doing, don't go creating maps/removing maps or files with sudo
[05:24] <oonoon> Seveas: u don't believe pieces of old removed package still remain somewhere?
[05:24] <ompaul> ACTION points at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=samba&Title=&Description=&created%3Adate=1970%2F02%2F01+00%3A00%3A00+GMT&created_usage=range%3Amin&pt_toggle=%23&portal_type%3Alist=AmazonItem&portal_type%3Alist=Discussion+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Document&portal_type%3Alist=Event&portal_type%3Alist=Favorite&portal_type%3Alist=File&portal_type%3Alist=Folder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenter&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterDefin
[05:25] <ompaul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1475 <-- should have read that
[05:25] <Seveas> oonoon, if you don't purge them they will remain...
[05:25] <ompaul> that was the result of my search for samba
[05:25] <kevor> oonoon: IF there are pieces left, they are not loaded anymore, like windows loads every  DLL it's comes across. So the speed is not downgraded by the amount of packages installed
[05:25] <oonoon> Seveas: how do u purge them?
[05:25] <Seveas> sudo aptitude purge $package
[05:25] <Seveas> sudo apt-get remove --purge $package
[05:26] <Seveas> (either one)
[05:26] <Seveas> or 'mark for complete removal' in synaptic
[05:26] <kevor> Seveas: apt-get remove package only removes that exact package?
[05:26] <Seveas> or dpkg -P
[05:26] <Seveas> kevor, yes
[05:26] <Seveas> kevor, well, packages that depend on it will be removed too
[05:26] <kemik> even M$ has confessed that windows systems go sluggish with time
[05:26] <Seveas> but that's logical :)
[05:26] <BodaciousB> does anyone know when breezy badger is going to be released?
[05:26] <kevor> hmm
[05:26] <Seveas> oct. 13
[05:26] <kemik> was an article on Ars about windowsvista =)
[05:26] <Seveas> BodaciousB: A new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.
[05:27] <kevor> kemik: would be stupid to say otherwize, they would be lying
[05:27] <kemik> BodaciousB:  you've got that scripted ? =)
[05:27] <BodaciousB> Seveas, thanks, i gues ill go ahead and reformat now then =)
[05:27] <Seveas> VISTA Viruses Insecurities Spyware Trojans Adware
[05:27] <kemik> heh
[05:27] <kemik> well, cant really blame MS for all of those
[05:27] <CookedGryphon> oct 13, ace i'll b at uni then with a decent internet connection so it won't take 5 days to dl
[05:27] <ompaul> Seveas, that is nice :)
[05:27] <kemik> spyware/trojans/adware/viruses comes with being the major player i guess
[05:28] <Seveas> kemik,
[05:28] <Seveas> no
[05:28] <kevor> Seveas: if there will ever be spyware for linux, running Firefox as another user will totally be secure VS spyware?
[05:28] <Seveas> it's becuae windows is inherently less secure...
[05:28] <hopeng> when breezy out, will hoary user can ezly update it to breezy without loosing any settings ?
[05:28] <Seveas> hopeng, there is a one-line upgrade possible :)
[05:28] <hopeng> what is one-line Seveas ?
[05:28] <Seveas> that it takes one linr in the terminal
[05:28] <Seveas> lene*
[05:28] <Seveas> line*
[05:28] <Seveas> dang :|
[05:29] <CookedGryphon> that's a point, is there any way i could install this OS to a laptop, keeping all my settings wihtout having to spend ages doing everytihgnagain?
[05:29] <kemik> Seveas:  i think that's not really a *fact* but merely your open-source opinion :)
[05:29] <hopeng> wow, thx for making this oneline feature
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: you can already upgrade, it your /etc/apt/sources.list, replace hoary with breezy and sudo-apt-get update, or upgrade, one of those
[05:29] <dalamar> i love when your on the web and some popup that looks like a system message comes up saying 'you need a registry clean!' thats funny  to me ;) I think haha spamming bastards, I have no registry!
[05:29] <kevor> CookedGryphon: just backup ur homedir, all usersettings are stored there
[05:29] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, ubuntu never has to be reinstalled if you don't do stupid things like testing a development version too early :)
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: but like everyone advises against upgrading to breezy
[05:29] <kemik> Breezy isnt stable
[05:29] <Seveas> dalamar, wrong
[05:29] <Seveas> you have a registry
[05:29] <kemik> so success is not granted
[05:30] <hopeng> yes EasterSunshine, i take the advice too, i wont upgrade it until oct 13
[05:30] <dalamar> not like what they are talking about though
[05:30] <|OverKiLL|> How I Can Write Files To NTFS From UBUNTU ?
[05:30] <Seveas> true :)
[05:30] <Seveas> |OverKiLL|, not.
[05:30] <ray_> will kubuntu be released the same time as ubuntu
[05:30] <kemik> |OverKiLL|:  it's not recommended
[05:30] <Seveas> ray_, yes, and edubuntu too
[05:30] <|OverKiLL|> :(
[05:30] <CookedGryphon> seveas + kevor: i mean when i get a new computer, laptop, and i want to keep all my packages that i've installed cos i have a slow internet connection n can't b bothered dling them again
[05:30] <kemik> |OverKiLL|:  take a look at "Captive" it will let you write, but i dont think it's an easy install
[05:30] <hopeng> issit possible to install kde in this gnome ?
[05:30] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: oct 13 is almost my birthday so i think of breezy as my birthday present, not to be conceited and think it was made for me, but you know what i mean
[05:30] <tyler_> someone help me to install k3b
[05:30] <snorks> Does anyone here use a Logitech MX700 mouse?
[05:31] <kevor> CookedGryphon: apt-get has a storage dir for all .debs, dunno where it is, but you could backup that dir
[05:31] <funkyHat> tyler, sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:31] <hopeng> EasterSunshine LOL, its not for u :p
[05:31] <pirast> tyler: sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> tyler_, try sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:31] <Seveas> hopeng, you can have both gnome and kde installed at the same time, the recommended way is installing the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[05:31] <funkyHat> * tyler_
[05:31] <ray_> hopeng: yup.........sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: you don't install kde in gnome, they are both different windows managers
[05:31] <dalamar> wow look at that support! ;)
[05:31] <tyler_> this command
[05:31] <hopeng> wtf ill get it now!
[05:31] <tyler_> gime me error
[05:31] <funkyHat> what was the error?
[05:31] <pirast> which error?
[05:31] <kemik> Seveas:  if i want to run QT applications in Gnome, what's the magic i need?
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> kemik: kde libs?
[05:31] <ompaul> |OverKiLL|, or get some program that supports ext3 from within Windows, ohh look you have freedom to deal with Linux but it appears that you do not have freedom to work the other way
[05:31] <pirast> nothing..
[05:32] <pirast> apt installs the magic
[05:32] <Seveas> kemik, installing them :)
[05:32] <dalamar> like when you install k3b in gnomew it installs all the qt libs etc you need
[05:32] <|OverKiLL|> I Need Tutorial How Configure Lilo!!
[05:32] <tyler_> other packets
[05:32] <Seveas> |OverKiLL|, drop the caps...
[05:32] <funkyHat> ompaul, there is an installable driver for ext2/3 for windows NT, it's read-only though
[05:32] <tyler_> not installed
[05:32] <|OverKiLL|> ok
[05:32] <snorks> whats the channelname of the amd64 version of ubuntu_
[05:32] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  mmh.. k guess i'll see with all broken dependencies :)
[05:32] <snorks> ?
[05:32] <hopeng> if adobe make photoshop in linux, ill wipe out my windows partition for sure
[05:32] <kemik> !lilp
[05:32] <ubotu> Not a clue, kemik
[05:32] <kemik> !lilo
[05:32] <ubotu> kemik: I don't know
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> hopeng, you can install photoshop in linux ...
[05:33] <|OverKiLL|> !lilo
[05:33] <dubnium> are sources down at the moment, us.archive.ubuntu.com? i can't install packages at the moment
[05:33] <kemik> hopeng:  use Wine and install PS
[05:33] <pirast> hopeng, with qemu and kqemu you can run windows in linux
[05:33] <snorks> isn't gimp a good rival?
[05:33] <tyler_> someone can pass me his sources.list
[05:33] <tyler_> ?
[05:33] <kemik> snorks:  yeah, but it's not PS... :)
[05:33] <DJ_Mirage> snorks, no it isnt, it lacks certain functionality
[05:33] <kevor> hopeng: use gimp, it has almost al lthe functionalities of PS
[05:33] <kemik> !sources
[05:33] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:33] <pirast> hopeng and you can use crossover x office, as i know wine is not nice for running ps
[05:33] <kemik> there you go tyler_
[05:33] <snorks> what is the name of the ubuntuamd64 #channel?
[05:34] <oonoon> when i connect another user through samba, it doesn't appear with finger command
[05:34] <pirast> I dont know if there is one
[05:34] <Seveas> snorks, #ubuntu
[05:34] <EasterSunshine> snorks: i think it is #ubuntu
[05:34] <hopeng> i tried installing photoshop 7 using wine, cedega, crossoveroffice, but it has a minor bug, for ex: u cant drag the brush, coz the 'ink' won't come out.
[05:34] <|OverKiLL|> i need lilo configuration tutorial...
[05:34] <pirast> mom
[05:34] <Seveas> |OverKiLL|, www.tldp.org has one iirc
[05:34] <pirast> you could trie qemu qith kqemu
[05:34] <Seveas> but why use lilo?
[05:34] <hopeng> kevor, im having real trouble usign gimp. have to start all over again
[05:34] <pirast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513&page=1&highlight=qemu+kqemu
[05:34] <ompaul> |OverKiLL|, you should have a look at grub
[05:35] <|OverKiLL|> I Can't install grub
[05:35] <dubnium>  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]    can anyone tell me if they are having trouble with an apt-get update?
[05:35] <|OverKiLL|> fatal error
[05:35] <pirast> you should install kqemu, without kqemu the performance is bad
[05:35] <Seveas> dubnium, try another mirror until the server is back up
[05:35] <kevor> hopeng: i did too, but you will notice most Icons are the same, and when you find the names for the stuff you want, it'll suit you real fine real fast
[05:35] <pirast> you could sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <pirast> the delete the .us
[05:35] <pirast> us.
[05:35] <dubnium> i'll just wait, im install mplayer and there too many required packages
[05:36] <ompaul> dubnium, ie. is fast - very very fast sits in heanet.ie
[05:36] <smurfix> dubnium: works from here
[05:36] <smurfix> so either they're back up or you have a broken proxy. ;-)
[05:36] <dubnium> hmm
[05:36] <hopeng> kevor, one thing i hate the most is i usualy pressed spacebar to move the area in PS, annd this & other shortcut isnt the same in gimp :(
[05:37] <CookedGryphon> I still can't get w32 codecs, and when i try compile xmms it comes up with some glib error, and it won't dl from synaptic, mplayer play s the files but i can't get the gui bit to work so can#'t build up a library of my tracks, and it cuts out the ding on gaim when tis playing and... bugger this, i'm oging outside, real world n all that
[05:37] <kevor> get used to it :P
[05:38] <hopeng> thats the harddest part
[05:38] <kevor> hopeng: you will notice gimp is much faster
[05:38] <hopeng> :(
[05:38] <tyler_> no
[05:38] <hopeng> kevor, major problem is my officemate using PS CS...
[05:38] <tyler_> dependence
[05:38] <tyler_> of other packets
[05:38] <kevor> funny, a guy at work had a picture, he was going to "paint shop"
[05:39] <kevor> so i watched, he did infact launced MSPAINT and started tweaking the pictuer
[05:39] <kevor> hehehe
[05:39] <funkyHat> tyler_, read the questions carefully and input a 'y' to say yes to installing it
[05:39] <tyler_> funkyhat
[05:39] <kevor> hopeng: isn't there a crossprogram format that supports layers?
[05:40] <smurfix> ompaul: "fast" depends on where you are. For dubnium, a server in Ireland might not be a good choice, even if you and me can get to it fast.
[05:40] <tyler_> please visit
[05:40] <tyler_> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1476
[05:40] <tyler_> there is my error
[05:40] <funkyHat> can you pastebin from the apt-get command?
[05:40] <tyler_> yes
[05:40] <dubnium> whats another mirror?
[05:41] <tyler_> this
[05:41] <tyler_> is
[05:41] <tyler_> apt-get install k3b
[05:41] <smurfix> dubnium: us1.archive.ubuntu.com for instance
[05:41] <kevor> funkyHat: what do you mean with that? >>'ing it to a txtfile and putting it on pastebin? (just curious)
[05:41] <dalamar> how do you change file association in gnome? ie using something other than totem to play movies?
[05:41] <smurfix> dubnium: sorry, us2
[05:42] <smurfix> us1 == us
[05:42] <funkyHat> kevor, it's | not >>, and there is a link to the script i was talking about on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:42] <ompaul> smurfix true, but always worth a try
[05:42] <kevor> oh cewl, nice
[05:42] <dubnium> do i need to comment out the others, or just leave them alone?
[05:43] <funkyHat> kevor, save 'pastebin' in your ~, do sudo ./pastebin --install
[05:43] <dubnium> smurfix, and thats http not ftp correct?
[05:43] <funkyHat> and read the file too, instructions on how to save settings for it are there
[05:44] <smurfix> dubnium: I just tested http, but both should work
[05:44] <funkyHat> dalamar, right click on a file of the type in question, click properties, and click the 'open with' tab
[05:44] <smurfix> generally http is (a) faster and (b) doesn't have firewall issues
[05:46] <kevor> funkyHat: i have no use of that script, but it's nice
[05:46] <dalamar> funkyHat, thank you, will that associate all of say .avi the same way?
[05:46] <funkyHat> yes
[05:46] <dalamar> nice
[05:46] <funkyHat> :)
[05:47] <dalamar> i have troubles with totem locking on me if i try to move it for some reason, going to use xine instead
[05:47] <ray_> xine is cool
[05:47] <dubnium> ...hmm having problems connect to us2 as well... the both stop around 60%
[05:47] <dalamar> kind of an older version in the repos but still works fine
[05:47] <dubnium> probably my shitty router
[05:47] <carajean206> hey guys how to forcefully eject my cd-rom drive?
[05:48] <dalamar> sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> carajean206: you have to unmount it first
[05:48] <carajean206> ok i unmounted it
[05:48] <dalamar> now just hit your eject button
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> carajean206, if you eject it by right clicking on the icon on the desktop ... it will unmount and eject both at the same time
[05:49] <smurfix> carajean206: or use the handy "eject" command ;-)
[05:49] <carajean206> oohh cool thanks
[05:49] <somedude_> Hey!
[05:50] <oonoon> when i modify a file, i see the same file with ~ that appears ; where does it come from ?
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> its backup file
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> emacs usually does it
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:50] <dalamar> another quick question, when I boot and get to my login screen, the nvidia logo and the login screen itself are offset to the right like a good inch or so and its just black on the left, but when X loads everything is on the screen fine .. can I fix this somehow?
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> dalamar, i got the same problem as you ... i got black space on left and right
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> if you found the answer pls tell me too :P
[05:51] <miq> hi
[05:51] <dalamar> yeah like its not a big deal it just seems wierd that the desktop loads fine but the login is wacked out
[05:51] <Grat> ellow miq
[05:51] <funkyHat> dalamar, it's not really, they are completely separate programs
[05:52] <miq> i recently installed ubuntu on two brand-new athlon64 machines (the x86 version)
[05:52] <dalamar> ah okay
[05:52] <miq> and faced the one problem:
[05:52] <somedude_> i cant se any text in the "black boxes" on this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba using Firefox (winxp).. ??? Is it me or the webmaster?
[05:52] <funkyHat> actually dalamar, reading your problem, that is a bit strange...
[05:52] <miq> dma access could not be enabled for the ide-devices
[05:53] <miq> one board had an nforce4 the other an via K800 or something chipset
[05:53] <dalamar> well its done it before and after the nvidia drivers were installed and that didnt seem to change anything
[05:53] <miq> the "fix" for my nforce4 machine was to compile the amd-ide driver *into* the kernel
[05:54] <miq> and not using it as a module
[05:54] <miq> so it *could* be a kernel bug
[05:54] <miq> is something like that known?
[05:54] <miq> i found one or two similar hints on the net
[05:55] <funkyHat> miq, did you say you were using the x86 version? not the x86-64 version?
[05:55] <funkyHat> _that_ could be the bug ;)
[05:55] <miq> well, athlon64 are quite able to run 32-bit OSes
[05:56] <funkyHat> yes, but why should ubuntu 32 bit be configured to work correctly on a 64 bit machine, when there is a 64 bit version available?
[05:56] <kevor> but at same performance as a 32-bit system ;)
[05:56] <miq> and i want to run the 32bit one because some crucial stuff like w32codecs are much easier to run on 32bit
[05:56] <miq> and flashplugin etc.
[05:57] <miq> currently the 32bit ubuntu is much less of an hassle
[05:57] <miq> i tried the amd64 one before
[05:57] <miq> imho its not "there" yet
[05:58] <funkyHat> miq, not having a dig, but my response would be to notify people about the issues with the x86-64 version, rather than post bugs about the x86 version running on amd64
[05:58] <miq> funkyHat: well, the issues about x86-64 are well known