[04:13] <Clem16> Thanks guys, just incase you were wondering why firefox was crashing on my attempts to load java, I found the solution / what i did wrong.. create a symbolic link to the plugin in the java directory do not copy it over... thats what was causing it to foul up.
[04:13] <Davide> ok
[04:13] <Barridus> linux is all modular, that's the true beauty of it
[04:14] <Davide> ice-nine by installing mythbuntu can you still add all the packages to get it to be like regular ubuntu?
[04:14] <ice-nine> Davide, have you tried oss instead of Alsa?
[04:14] <Davide> ice-nine I haven't I was looking at the instructions someone posted to get that on, but it was very intimidating...
[04:14] <GunslingerFyre> hey all
[04:14] <cchaos> sex: GRUB help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-68342fc2e30d51fa0aa6f5bf16c911dd8d3663c6
[04:15] <Davide> I Don't know if I could do it
[04:15] <kimws1901_> hello~
[04:15] <Barridus> does a mythbuntu-desktop metapackage exist?  *checks*
[04:15] <Scunizi> ice-nine: what size box did you use.. I"m thinking of building myth on a mini-itx platform
[04:15] <blowjob> anyone know of a website on how to dual boot windows and ubuntu with 9.10 installing grub???
[04:15]  * GunslingerFyre finds a seat
[04:16]  * Scunizi heard the music for ring-a-round the rosy stop.. GunslingerFyre won
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> I won?
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> what did I win?
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> free ubuntu for life?
[04:16] <ice-nine> Davide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=787082   --- this link talks about unchecking an "analog/digital Output Jack" checkbox in alsamixer
[04:16] <Xcell> Wicked--  its called work space switcher
[04:16] <Scunizi> GunslingerFyre: the chair
[04:16] <Styles____> Hey guys
[04:16] <GunslingerFyre> cool.  I'll be taking it with me when I go.
[04:16] <Scunizi> :)
[04:17] <Styles____> I just installed Ubuntu tonight, and it's on my toshiba but when I start it up for the first time it flipps out and i can't see anything it's like all stripping
[04:17] <GunslingerFyre> stripping?
[04:17] <Barridus> Davide, there is a package in ubuntu repos mythbyntu-desktop.  this is sort of the blind leading the blind here (i don't have mythbuntu and you don't have ubuntu) but it installs 227 packages.
[04:17] <GunslingerFyre> like text scrolling by fast?  or weird colors and stuff?
[04:17] <Styles____> haha sry I'm txting a Girl and it's kinda on my mind LOL
[04:17] <Styles____> weird colors like I can't see anythinhg
[04:17] <GunslingerFyre> :/
[04:17] <Styles____> I just knda see a big outline of what a box would be
[04:17] <Barridus> what windows manager and toolkit does mythbuntu use?  gnome/gtk?
[04:18] <ice-nine> Scunizi, I used an antec nsk2400 case..   The wife wanted it to more or less blend in with the rest of the living room or there would be no way she'd allow a computer in the living room  LoL
[04:18] <GunslingerFyre> what version did you install styles?
[04:18] <Styles____> 8.04?
[04:18] <DrX> help -- focus is stuck inside a VMWare VM and I can't get out -- keyboard seems to be locked out, mouse is working, any ideas?
[04:18] <java> can some body tell me how to install the software from the channel
[04:18] <Scunizi> ice-nine: yea. same here.. but the smaller I can make it the better.. I'd go with a fanless setup if possible but that I know won't happen
[04:18] <GunslingerFyre> pm, styles?
[04:19] <Styles____> kk GunslingerFyre
[04:19] <Davide> Barridus so I guess from ubuntu I could install that package and get mythbuntu?
[04:19] <Davide> :D
[04:19] <java> what is software channel mean??
[04:20] <URoRRoRRR> Anyone know if my computer could be causing an ozone/static smell that's filling my room?
[04:20] <ice-nine> Scunizi, hehe.  I found an old sempron mobile processor and found that I don't need a fan on the heatsink (cheap aftermarket one) and a couple of Noctua fans running at low speed, All I hear is the harddrive now...
[04:20] <Barridus> Davide, my guess would be that.  but i can't test.  i've installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop.  it's easy to do to swap into a different variant
[04:20] <DG19075> Davide: apt-get install mythbuntu
[04:20] <Xcell> URoRRoRRR--  lol..it is a high voltage smell?
[04:20] <Barridus> i'm trying to detemine what windows manager and toolkit mythbuntu uses, that would be important to know before you try
[04:20] <Scunizi> ice-nine: ive got an intel E8400 looking for a home.. :)
[04:21] <URoRRoRRR> Xcell: yeah, kinda like lightning
[04:21] <Xcell> lol check your cpu usage = top
[04:21] <Davide> Barridus I don't know that information.. but DG19075 says apt-get
[04:21] <Xcell> install htop.. much better too
[04:22] <ice-nine> Barridus, 8.04 mythbuntu uses XFCE4 as a window manager.  I'm not sure if it's GTK or not.
[04:22] <Davide> Installation is complete restarting
[04:22] <Barridus> ice-nine, it appears it is (according to wikipedia)
[04:22] <ericmanders> is there a way to reset all the ubuntu settings to the original defaults?
[04:22] <mneptok> eep opp ork uh huh
[04:22] <randal> how do you use a icon theme
[04:23] <ice-nine> Cross your fingers Davide.  hope to hear those drums...
[04:23] <Barridus> ice-nine, and it matches my vague recollection of xubuntu hardy
[04:23] <phobiac> ericmanders: Deleting the config files in your /home directory, I think.
[04:23] <Davide> I"m crossing!
[04:23] <ericmanders> i will give it a try
[04:24] <Barridus> ice-nine, i seem to remember it was gtk too.  (i can't stand more than one toolkit loaded so i would have noticed i think)
[04:24] <randal> how do you use a icon theme
[04:24] <mneptok> ericmanders: what settings? systemn wide settings like network interface information or user level settings like file save locations?
[04:24] <Davide> :( guess not
[04:24] <Davide> that woudl have been way too easy!
[04:24] <Barridus> Davide, i missed what you're installing cuz i was alt tabbing around my old bookmarks. installed what?  hardy?
[04:25] <Barridus> or the mythbuntu-desktop
[04:25] <Davide> I just installed 8.10 cause 8.04 is still dling
[04:25] <phobiac> randal: Go to system>preferences>appearance to install icon themes.
[04:25] <Davide> just ubuntu
[04:25] <Davide> regular 8.10
[04:25] <kimws1901_> hello~
[04:25] <ericmanders> well somehow all of my file permissions gat messed up and I wanted to be able to reset them all
[04:25] <GunslingerFyre> 9.04 ftw!
[04:25] <Barridus> ok that's not surprising (if my kernel/audigy autoconfigure bug notion is correct)
[04:25] <Xcell> work good GunslingerFyre ?
[04:25]  * GunslingerFyre nods
[04:25] <GunslingerFyre> I like it a LOT
[04:25] <Xcell> cool
[04:26] <GunslingerFyre> just snappier overall
[04:26] <Barridus> which it may not be, obviously.  but i have some confidence in the theory
[04:26] <ice-nine> Davide, Hope you have more luck with 8.04
[04:26] <phobiac> ericmanders: Oh, that's different. You'd either have to manually change them all back or do a re install.
[04:26] <Xcell> I might pull out another drive and give it a test run this weekend
[04:26] <Davide> Barridus so now I'm in the sound preferences.. if I select ALSA and click on test I should hear sound right?
[04:26] <Davide> if it works?
[04:26] <ericmanders> ok thats what I thought thanks for the help.
[04:26] <GunslingerFyre> you should.  for beta, it's very nice
[04:26] <Barridus> yeah it's like a little whoooooooooooooo sound
[04:27] <bluenzo> If i install windows 7 on another physical HDD, will that mess up my current grub? If so, can i use super grub to easily fix it?
[04:27] <GunslingerFyre> bit of a flash player bug with x64 version, but got that sorted
[04:27] <Barridus> what does pulseaudio do
[04:27] <Scunizi> phobiac: ericmanders that's not true.. sudo chown 744 /home/<loginname>
[04:27] <Xcell> I may.. i gave up on 8.04 cuz of sound issues
[04:27] <cchaos> Bluenzo: should be able to (I think)
[04:27] <Scunizi> phobiac: ericmanders or.. sudo chown -R 744 /home/<loginname>
[04:27] <phobiac> Scunizi: Like I said, either manually put them all back or do a reinstall.
[04:27] <Dreamglider> bluenzo, yea it's pretty easy to fix grub :)
[04:27] <Dreamglider> !grub
[04:27] <Dreamglider> first link there
[04:27] <mint_> when i go to reinstall grub, i get "cannot mount selected partition"
[04:27] <mint_> what gives?
[04:27] <bluenzo> Dreamglider, so i should be able to run 3 OS's with grub?
[04:28] <Scunizi> phobiac: you made it sound like you had to do something on each file individually..
[04:28] <Mike_lifeguard> How big should your swap partition be?
[04:28] <phobiac> Scunizi: You're also assuming it was just his /home that got messed up.
[04:28] <Dreamglider> bluejeans, as many as you can for on the drive
[04:28] <Xcell> Mike_lifeguard--  2.5 times your ram
[04:28] <phobiac> Scunizi: Because he never said what file permissions were messed up?
[04:28] <bluenzo> Dreamglider, lol i had a few physical HDDs
[04:28] <Scunizi> phobiac: I missed that part.. easier to just change everything. :)
[04:28] <Barridus> i never use swap XD
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Xcell: is it bad to have more than that?
[04:29] <Xcell> me either.. i installed enough ram to feed a heard of leephants
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> that's just make-believe RAM for the system right?
[04:29] <Xcell> Mike_lifeguard--  do not
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> so more is fine
[04:29] <phobiac> Scunizi: Sorry for snapping at you, I'm in a bad mood. You were a bit more helpful than I was.
[04:29] <Barridus> Mike_lifeguard, it's just a waste
[04:29] <ajh2000> I am using intrepid ibex. The system freeze after playing sound ie mp3. Do you think that trying Jaunty Jackalope will fix the problem? Interestingly the same problem exists in the latest stable release of Debian but NOT in Gutsy Gibbon... same computer for all these OSs.
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, so it won't get used...
[04:30] <Mike_lifeguard> I'll bet I can make it smaller then...
[04:30] <etzerd> how can I installed FlashPlayer in ubuntu?
[04:30] <Davide> Barridus ok now woooh sound :(
[04:30] <Barridus> Mike_lifeguard, all it's really for is hibernate assuming you have more than a gig of ram
[04:30] <Scunizi> phobiac: like water off a duck.. :) everybody has a "day" once in a while..
[04:30] <Xcell> put more physical ram in it
[04:30] <etzerd> can anyone help
[04:30] <Davide> eseven73 did you have ideas from ubuntu 8.10 on how to make sound work?
[04:30] <Dreamglider> etzerd, you can dl the player from adobe
[04:30] <GunslingerFyre> try to play flash video in firefox, then click the "install missing plugins" bar at the top....alternatively, search synaptic
[04:30] <etzerd> they have so many version of it there
[04:30] <phobiac> etzerd: Do you mean the flash plugin for your browser?
[04:30] <Davide> 89% downloaded!
[04:30] <Barridus> Davide, is there a "pulseaudio" process running in sessions?
[04:30] <Davide> sessions... where is that?
[04:31] <Barridus> prefs i think
[04:31] <etzerd> they have Yum, Rpm, taz I just don't know which one to choose from
[04:31] <Barridus> there's a tab for processes
[04:31] <Barridus> no wait use the system monitor.  sorry.
[04:31] <Barridus> under administratio
[04:31] <etzerd> phobiac: Yes the Flash Plugin
[04:31] <Barridus> n
[04:31] <Davide> yes there's a pulse audio running
[04:31] <phobiac> etzerd: Try doing sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:32] <Dreamglider> etzerd, or you can do an "all on one" solution with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:32] <hulgh> Hi guys, I am looking for a package corner  mp. Is a music player that is embed on the corner of the desktop, does someone had hear about it?
[04:32] <ice-nine> Aaack   DAMN PULSEAUDIO!!!!
[04:32] <Davide> do I stop it?
[04:32] <Barridus> yeah it could be that.
[04:32] <Davide> oh
[04:32] <DrX> can someone help me get a linux system unfrozen?
[04:32] <phobiac> etzerd: Dreamglider's advice was good.
[04:32] <Barridus> it's kind of messy to get rid of pulseaudio
[04:32] <Xcell> Barridus--  i put sys mon on my task pannel..i monitor mem/cpu/etho.. cool graphs.. try it
[04:32] <GunslingerFyre> DrX - GUI frozen?
[04:32] <mint_> when i go to reinstall grub, i get "cannot mount selected partition" can someone help me fix this please?
[04:32] <Barridus> you'd have to blacklist it, etc, in the configuration files
[04:33] <cchaos> Is it possible to monitor system temps in 8.10?
[04:33] <ice-nine> Davide, are you able to switch to OSS in 8.10.  System -> Preferences -> Sound
[04:33] <Xcell> cchaos--  lmsensors?
[04:33] <Dreamglider> etzerd,  Look at -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:33] <Davide> Barridus well I removed it and it still doesnt work...
[04:33] <phobiac> mint_: Are at grub now?
[04:33] <cchaos> Xcell: I mainly want to monitor my CPU temp
[04:33] <Dreamglider> etzerd, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restircted-extras
[04:33] <mint_> phobiac: yes
[04:33] <Barridus> uninstalled it completely?
[04:33] <phobiac> mint_: Press c for the command prompt
[04:34] <mint_> k
[04:34] <nadan> hrmm not sure if neone here can help with this but my xbox controller (original) is supposed to be already working out of the box with ubuntu... and it recognizes it but i don't see nething in /dev/input/ to point to
[04:34] <Xcell> cchaos--  it takes a bit to make work.. plus depends on bios.. but i think lm sensors is what you want
[04:34] <Davide> Barridus I just hit the button remove from that list
[04:34] <Davide> in sessions
[04:35] <GunslingerFyre> ice-nine...is oss better than alsa?
[04:35] <phobiac> mint_: find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:35] <Xcell> cchaos--  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[04:35] <mint_> phobiac: ive done this.. im getting failure at "setup (hd0)"
[04:35] <phobiac> mint_: It should tell you (hdx,y) where x and y are numbers
[04:35] <cchaos> Xcell: well the BIOS shows temps on startup, so I imagine it can?
[04:35] <cchaos> Xcell: thanks for the link
[04:35] <Xcell> ^
[04:35] <Xcell> k
[04:36] <Barridus> Davide, do you have system monitor open?
[04:36] <ice-nine> GunslingerFyre, not in my opinion.  I've found ALSA works fine for me, but Davide has an audigy soundcard and is having problems getting it to work using ALSA and/or PULSEAUDIO...
[04:36] <phobiac> mint_: You're typing it wrong, you need to type (hd0,#) where # is the partition number of your root partition.
[04:36] <rongjiang> hi, anybody here? I've got a problem about ATI driver
[04:36] <ice-nine> OSS is quite old now.  I think BSD still uses it hardcore though.
[04:36] <phobiac> mint_: Not just (hd0)
[04:36] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: the focus is stuck in a VMWAre vm and the keyboard appears to be locked out
[04:36] <GunslingerFyre> ah
[04:36] <maxagaz> how to reload sound server on hardy ?
[04:37] <GunslingerFyre> doing anything you can't lose, DrX?
[04:37] <mint_> got it. thank you phobiac
[04:37] <phobiac> mint_: You're welcome.
[04:37] <mint_> appreciated
[04:37] <tmb> Hi, where do I report bugs in 9.04?  (It fails to reognize the hard drie on an HP DV2; 8.10 is working fine on the same hardware).
[04:37] <mint_> ive never had to do that before
[04:37] <mint_> but it makes sense
[04:37] <phobiac> mint_: No problem...I hate GRUB. I break it all the time.
[04:37] <cchaos> Xcell: I see what you mean by takes some work
[04:37] <Barridus> !jaunty|tmb
[04:37] <mint_> later
[04:37] <mint_> thanks again
[04:37] <tmb> thanks
[04:38] <GunslingerFyre> I break my grub lots too :)
[04:38] <Xcell> cchaos--  ya.. but with alittle patients youll get it
[04:38] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: don't care about the Vms but just don't want to get locked out nor restart the VMWare Linux host
[04:38] <rongjiang> The new driver 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 will make the composite very slow
[04:38] <GunslingerFyre> so it's a linux vm session on a linux vm server?
[04:39] <cchaos> Xcell: hopefully lol
[04:39] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: y
[04:39] <Xcell> lol..
[04:39] <GunslingerFyre> hmm
[04:39] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: actually, it's 3 OS VMs (1 linux) and 1 linux host
[04:39] <Xcell> cchaos--  i just installed sys mon on pannel and htop with both i could tell what my cpu is doing
[04:40] <Xcell> way easier
[04:40] <GunslingerFyre> focus stuck and keyboard locked out...
[04:40] <cchaos> Xcell: I have sys mon on my panel too, I was just curious about the temps
[04:40] <GunslingerFyre> so if you were to, say, kill x (ctrl-alt-backspace) wonder if it would kill the host's x or the vm's x
[04:40] <Xcell> ah
[04:40] <DrX> there is a small diamond that the pointer turns into when the mouse moves the arrow pointer outside the guest VM
[04:41] <Davide> Barridus sorry had to step away... no I dont have system monitor open... is that the "sessions?"
[04:41] <DrX> the thing is that ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work on this guest VM
[04:41] <GunslingerFyre> ah
[04:41] <Davide> Barridus could it help if I installed all of the updates available?
[04:41] <kravlin_> My splash screen no longer shows up when i boot. anybody know how i could fix this?
[04:41] <Iceman_B|SSH> when I read through manpages, I frequently get headings like " mount(8)"  <-- what does the number behind such a command mean?
[04:41] <Barridus> you'll want both open
[04:41] <ziroday> DrX: you need to ask the vm to pass on the ctrl+alt+bkspace signal.
[04:42] <Barridus> Davide^
[04:42] <lstarnes> Iceman_B|SSH: it refers to the manual section that you can find its man page on
[04:42] <lstarnes> *in
[04:42] <Xcell> kravlin--  I installed bootup manager from add remove..be careful not to abuse it.. in it it gives you that option
[04:42] <GunslingerFyre> you don't have a VM manager tool on another box, do you?
[04:42] <Xcell> @ your own risk
[04:42] <Iceman_B|SSH> lstarnes: okay, and how do I invoke that ?
[04:42] <mopoyo> what's an alternative to konversation
[04:42] <lstarnes> Iceman_B|SSH: man mount or man 8 mount
[04:42] <Scunizi> mopoyo: for irc?
[04:42] <DrX> GunslingerFyre: nope
[04:43] <mopoyo> Scunizi: yes
[04:43] <maxagaz> how can i run epiphany/firefox and then run xtensoftphone/ekiga with sound working on both ?
[04:43] <GunslingerFyre> sorry man, out of ideas then
[04:43] <roccity_> mopoyo: xchat for gui irssi for terminal
[04:43] <maxagaz> on hardy
[04:43] <Scunizi> mopoyo: xchat (not xchat-gnome) .. for terminal  access irssi
[04:43] <GunslingerFyre> don't know how to fix it without rebooting if you can't do anything in the host
[04:43] <Davide> Barridus, ok both open... stop the pulseaudio process?
[04:43] <ziroday> mopoyo: quassel if you are using kde
[04:43] <Iceman_B|SSH> lstarnes: thanks :)
[04:43] <Barridus> Davide, that "sessions" thing is sort of analogous to windows'  start->startup menu.  stuff that autoruns.  the system monitor/processes is somewhat analogous to the task manager.  you can see what is currently running
[04:44] <Iceman_B|SSH> how do I find out the UUID of a device ?
[04:44] <ziroday> Iceman_B|SSH: blkid
[04:44] <Davide> gotcha.. so stop the process
[04:44] <Barridus> Davide, yes.  then open terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base"
[04:44] <roccity_> Iceman_B|SSH: is it a disk drive like hard disk or cdrom?
[04:44] <Barridus> then reboot and see if sound works with alsa.  (you may need to fiddle with the mixer again)
[04:44] <kravlin_> Xcell: there was a script i ran before installing that. After that it no longer worked. Now i want to get the bootupmanager working and it won't.
[04:45] <Iceman_B|SSH> roccity_: hdd
[04:45] <Xcell> boot up manager is not in the admin column?
[04:45] <roccity_> Iceman_B|SSH: try in a terminal vim /etc/fstab
[04:45] <ziroday> Iceman_B|SSH: or just run blkid
[04:45] <Scunizi> Iceman_B|SSH: sudo blkid
[04:46] <Scunizi> roccity_: vim?  not good for a "new" person
[04:46] <ziroday> Scunizi: the sudo is not required
[04:46] <Iceman_B|SSH> blkid works fine
[04:46] <Scunizi> ziroday: it's been a while
[04:46] <kravlin_> Xcell: it is, however, no matter what i turn that to the theme doesn't work
[04:46] <Davide> Barridus ok done
[04:46] <kravlin_> Xcell: i found the script. uploading to pastebin right now.
[04:47] <Davide> Barridus now what?
[04:47] <Xcell> kravlin--  i would uninstall boot up manager.. re-boot--re-install--reboot.. thats all i can say..
[04:47] <ary> How do I know what driver my video car is using?
[04:47] <ice-nine> Davide, have you done sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base yet?
[04:47] <wendywilk> having problems getting AC97 audio drivers to work in ubuntu 8.10
[04:48] <Barridus> Davide, reboot, see if test sound works with ALSA.  if not, see if pulseaudio is running again (damn thing), and if it's not (good) check the alsa mixer again
[04:48] <Davide> yes I have
[04:48] <Davide> ice-nine
[04:48] <cchaos> Ary:  system, admin, hardware drivers
[04:48] <ziroday> ary: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log/
[04:48] <Davide> ok rebooting
[04:48] <bitfish> ary: try to run 'glxgears' in your terminal
[04:48] <bitfish> :s
[04:48] <Barridus> ice-nine, yeah i suggested he do that
[04:48] <roccity_> Scunizi: oops your right
[04:48] <ziroday> bitfish: what would that do besides giving him his FPS for it?
[04:49] <ice-nine> Barridus, yep, I was just reiterating..
[04:49] <Scunizi> Davide: on my desktop after one of the latest updates.. I had to double click the speaker /preferences and add "front" and "side" option sliders.. on every reboot those sliders are all the way down and I have to slide them back to the top to get audio..
[04:49] <wendywilk> where can I download AC97 audio drivers for ubuntu 8.10?
[04:49] <littlebeauty> hi
[04:49] <ary> bitfish: it shows me tree gears  :)
[04:49] <bitfish> ziroday: uh, if glx (3d) works, his Video-card definitely works. i don't think i understand your question ;)
[04:49] <Barridus> Davide, yeah his prob is legacy device in a newer kernel that no longer supports it correctly out of box, or that pulseaudio is doing the "i feel like sucking" thing it can do sometimes depending on hardware
[04:49] <ziroday> bitfish: he wanted to know what drivers he was using, not whether glxgears work :)
[04:50] <Barridus> oops meant ice-nine
[04:50] <ziroday> ary: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please.
[04:50] <kb1hzm> laters all
[04:50] <Xcell> later
[04:50] <Barridus> pulseaudio and i have a love/hate relationship XD
[04:50] <Davide> Barridus No dice
[04:50] <raylu> so i'm using gnome and a few kde apps (quassel, amarok). i want kcontrol but i can't find it or the equivalent to configure the appearance of qt stuff. what do i need to install?
[04:50] <cchaos> What is pulseaudio?
[04:51] <Xcell> Barridus--  thats why im still on 7.10
[04:51] <Xcell> lol
[04:51] <Barridus> Davide, is pulseaudio process running in system manager / processes?
[04:51] <Barridus> not in sessions..
[04:51] <Davide> Barridus yes it is
[04:52] <Davide> but not in sessions
[04:52] <ice-nine> hard to kill...
[04:52] <Barridus> bah you'll have to blacklist it then.  and it might not even be the fix you need.  i'm not sure if i know how to blacklist in intrepid so i prolly won't be of much use
[04:52] <Davide> ok NP 8.04 is done burning to CD
[04:53] <Davide> gonna just go for that Barridus
[04:55] <kravlin1> ok. i lost who i was talking to when i got disconnected.
[04:55] <Guest71675> Howdy all.  So I recently installed ubuntu 9.04 during my switch from Windows (whew-hoo). All of sudden today, OpenOffice Writer started opening at startup. How can I turn that off? I've looked in Preferences>Startup Applications and don't find it there to turn off.
[04:55] <kravlin1> who was i talking to?
[04:55] <Im_Toast> Guys, 2 things, 1. I occasionally have a small section of my screen like, not update and keep showing something from an earlier screen (Like I switch screens but that section stays the same) Any ideas why?
[04:55] <mopoyo> why does it say xchat is only for windows and fedora linux 7
[04:56] <ziroday> Guest71675: err why are you running 9.04, its in beta? Anyway support for jaunty is in #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <ziroday> mopoyo: ask the xchat devs.
[04:56] <LiMaO> kravlin1: [00:42:27] <Xcell> kravlin--  I installed bootup manager from add remove..be careful not to abuse it.. in it it gives you that option
[04:56] <LiMaO> kravlin1: probably Xcell
[04:56] <Guest71675> ok. I'll move over.  thanks.
[04:56] <kravlin1> ok. i lost who i was talking to when i got disconnected.
[04:56] <Scunizi> Im_Toast: your video driver isn't performing up to standards..
[04:56] <kravlin1> who was it?
[04:56] <kravlin1> Xcell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148090/
[04:57] <SJ2000> Why oh why are the busted version (The ones with showstopped bugs) of the nvidia driver 180.xx still available through the "Hardware Drivers" interface?
[04:57] <kravlin1> LiMa0: thank you so much!
[04:57] <ziroday> SJ2000: is there a LP bug filed?
[04:57] <remu> Hey folks, I had saved my .evolution folder from a previous install, and now after doing a fresh install of ubuntu and running evolution it is asking me to create the profile and everything. Why is it not seeing my old accounts and settings and just running from there?
[04:57] <Barridus> Davide, if you'e still there in intrepid try "gksudo gedit /etc/pulse/client.conf" and see if you get the pulseaudio configuration.  if so, change "autospawn = yes" to "autospawn = no"
[04:57] <LiMaO> kravlin1: you're welcome
[04:57] <ziroday> remu: same version of evolution?
[04:58] <remu> ziroday, yes it is
[04:58] <SJ2000> ziroday: Well it's been marked as fixed but they are still offering the bad versions
[04:58] <ziroday> SJ2000: link?
[04:58] <Gobby> How do I add Virtual desktops, i deleted my second panel to see what it would look like.
[04:58] <SJ2000> Problem is there are lots of dupes with varying problems, not sure which one applies to me
[04:58] <Gobby> I re-added my second panel though
[04:59] <Davide> oh
[04:59] <ziroday> remu: hmm, try add the stuff in the .evolution file in .evolution
[04:59] <Davide> Barridus too late already installing 8.04
[04:59] <Davide> it's formatting
[04:59] <Barridus> ok
[04:59] <Davide> :D
[04:59] <remu> ziroday, pardon? I don't understand.
[04:59] <Nephilus1> Hey guys i have a problem with my panel it doesn't show icons in the menu
[05:00] <Davide> I really like the picture from 8.04 better than 8.10
[05:00] <ziroday> remu: copy the contents of your backed up .evolution file to ~/.evolution
[05:00] <svref> How do I research a new 64-bit desktop for Ubuntu? Are there any vendors that support it?
[05:00] <nickgarvey> is there something in bash like && except in runs the next command if the previous one returned a failure? e.g., false ?? echo "previous command failed"
[05:00] <Barridus> Davide, might want to jot that down or something.  it's the 2nd step to ditching pulseaudio if you ever want to give it a shot again.  (first being sessions and unchecking pulseaudio, then doing that edit, then rebooting)
[05:00] <remu> ziroday, it is all already there, I never removed it from there (my home folder is on a separate partition)
[05:00] <spaceBARbarian> can someone help me get i8kmon to detect my config
[05:00] <ziroday> remu: ah, well in that case I have no idea
[05:01] <disappearedng> hey everyone is it possible for me to add a color theme for my gnome-terminal ?
[05:01] <Barridus> pulseaudio rocks when it works, but it has some "issues" depending on hardware.  (quite possibly on your legacy card),  it's kind of annoying to convince to go away, as you're noticing XD
[05:01] <Davide> Barridus what is pulseaudio exactly?
[05:02] <Scunizi> Davide: a sound server..
[05:02] <Brandon> how do i install gnome
[05:02] <Brandon> sudo apt-get install desktop-gnome?
[05:02] <Barridus> Davide, it's an "overlay" of sorts for ALSA.  adds multiple simultaneous sound channels
[05:02] <Scunizi> Brandon: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[05:02] <Brandon> ah ty
[05:02] <Davide> and so in 8.04 it is not present?
[05:03] <Barridus> it might still be, i don't know
[05:03] <Brandon> E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop
[05:03] <Scunizi> Davide: it is.. but not as well tweeked as 8.10
[05:03] <ary_> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m547c372c
[05:03] <Davide> Scunizi I see
[05:03] <ziroday> ary_: you are using the radeon driver
[05:03] <Barridus> Davide, either way you'll find out if the kernel is at fault.  if it's still no sound after tweaking mixer, you know now how to ditch pulse.
[05:04] <Scunizi> Davide: should also be better in 9.04
[05:04] <ary_> ziroday: propietary?
[05:04] <BiosElement> Not sure if this is really the place to ask but has anyone had problems connecting to MSN via pidgin? It was working just an hour ago. I'm guessing MSN's having some problems.
[05:04] <ziroday> ary_: no, open source
[05:04] <Davide> I guess if this doesn't work... I just need some newer hardware idk..
[05:04] <Davide> LOL
[05:04] <Scunizi> BiosElement: that happens.. try aMSN
[05:04] <ziroday> BiosElement: install msn-pecan and change your provider to WLM. It is much more stable
[05:04] <Barridus> Davide, copout idea here, but you don't happen to have a spare newer card?
[05:04] <ary_> ziroday: it come with the default installation
[05:04] <ziroday> ary_: yes
[05:05] <Brandon> Scunizi: E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop why will it not work
[05:05] <BiosElement> ziroday, Yeah. I was using WLM for a few weeks last month but when I re-installed I left it default. I guess I'll switch it bacl to pecan then.
[05:05] <Davide> hehe I don't... unfortunately
[05:05] <Barridus> Davide, at least the "plus" side is i'm sure an inexpensive card would work better
[05:05] <SJ2000> I think this one has the most similar to my problem except it's only occuring with the 180 drivers from the "Hardware Drivers" interface (Which install 180.11 for some reason) and I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/321741
[05:05] <ziroday> BiosElement: basically the current msn thingymabob is legacy, which MS is slowly phasing support out for. WLM is the newer, fancier protocl
[05:06] <BiosElement> ziroday: Really? I figured it was a deal of pecan being an older more stable protocol. That's useful to know. Thanks. :)
[05:06] <Davide> well if this doesnt work it might push me to finally purchase a new system... then I can use my current rig which is 3 years old or so, and maybe that will work
[05:06] <ziroday> SJ2000: read the bug. It tells you to test jaunty which has the gix.
[05:07] <Barridus> yeah Davide don't give up on linux.  pulseaudio can be fickle, especially with hardware that's in less demand now
[05:07] <ziroday> SJ2000: fix, sorry
[05:07] <SJ2000> ziroday: I'm not using Jaunty
[05:07] <ziroday> SJ2000: well the fix is in jaunty. Or you can find a PPA with newer drivers in
[05:07] <Davide> I'm trying to put the ubuntu on an old P4 2.4ghz 512MB ram Gateway comp that my mom's friend gave me....
[05:07] <Davide> I like the case though
[05:08] <Barridus> pulse works great in jaunty for me.... except in pidgin for some reason.
[05:08] <Barridus> i think it's pidgin's fault though.
[05:08] <SJ2000> ziroday: so basically the 180 nvidia driver which is marked as "[Recommended]" in the Hardware Drivers panel is actually old outdated and is known to be faulty?
[05:08] <Davide> I'm still not grasping what pulse can actually do
[05:08] <Scunizi> Davide: should work.. that's what I was running up until this last Dec.. but I had 2 gigs of ram..
[05:08] <Davide> you said add different sound channels?
[05:08] <ziroday> SJ2000: I am not sure of the circumstance, sorry.
[05:08] <ziroday> SJ2000: however there is a fix.
[05:08] <Brandon> what other version's are there gnome kde fluxbox blackbox
[05:08] <Davide> I hope scunizi!
[05:08] <Davide> :D
[05:08] <Barridus> Davide, yeah let's say you have two programs making sounds at once
[05:08] <Xcell> Barridus--  every time i tried to run 2 sound devices pulse always broke on me.
[05:08] <Davide> 94% done
[05:09] <Wilton10> HEY FOLKS
[05:09] <Wilton10> WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE REDS!!!
[05:09] <FloodBot2> Wilton10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <Barridus> Davide, you need pulse for that.  alsa can only handle one.
[05:09] <BoltClock> hi, fixing grub after a windows installation only only only affects the mbr right?
[05:09] <Davide> I see
[05:09] <SJ2000> ziroday: a fix for something I don't use :/ I'm trying to work out why they are recommending outdated and broken drivers on a release
[05:09] <FrodBonzi> you can get more help in #2,000
[05:09] <Barridus> Davide, once it works it'll all make sense.  hard to wrap your head around it without the common ground of context
[05:09] <ziroday> SJ2000: as I said I am not familiar with your situation. You are free to downgrade your drivers if you so wish
[05:10] <Davide> yeah I hear that...
[05:10] <Barridus> i did too, months ago XD
[05:10] <DJvRadio> hola
[05:10] <Davide> But I really enjoy this.  The troubleshooting you're helping me with is teaching me a lot of stuff I didn't know
[05:10] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:10] <Davide> so that's great!
[05:10] <Barridus> Davide, i'm glad i've been of use heheh
[05:10] <DJvRadio> is anybodey besides me using portable ubuntu??
[05:11] <Davide> yeah you and everyne else... but stick around for the grand finale
[05:11] <SJ2000> ziroday: yeah, that's what I did. I'm just surprised that they are still offering the old and broken drivers with showstopped bugs and saying it's recommended. The only reason I installed it was because it popped up and bugged me about it. Is it worth filing a launchpad bug?
[05:11] <Barridus> the initial learning curve seems daunting.  then you hit the "hump" and it's like dawn.
[05:11] <Davide> let's see if it is anticlimactic
[05:11] <Davide> LOL
[05:11] <Barridus> i doubt i can unfortunately Davide, it's past midnight :/
[05:11] <ziroday> SJ2000: a bug has already been filed. I don't think you can do anymore about it besides test with a livecd if the issue still exists
[05:11] <Barridus> i hate not seeing things through the end though.
[05:11] <Xcell> kravlin--  any luck?
[05:11] <Davide> you're on the east coast?
[05:12] <Barridus> yes.
[05:12] <Davide> well that's ok will you be on tomorrow? I'll let you know what happens
[05:12] <Barridus> well not really, indiana.  it's "eastern" now.
[05:12] <Davide> :D
[05:12] <Scunizi> SJ2000: you can always install the driver from nvidia.. 180.44 is working for me
[05:12] <SJ2000> Scunizi: that's what I used to do, this is the second time I installed it from Hardware Drivers instead of direct.... I've certainly learnt my leason :/
[05:12] <Barridus> Davide, probably heh.  well depends how a certain girl-related event goes.
[05:13] <egn> anyone know why my xorg.conf is so short? l$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf| wc -l
[05:13] <egn> 33
[05:13] <Davide> haha good luck!
[05:13] <ziroday> Scunizi: please don't recommend manual installs. They more often then not break for users due to conflicting drivers
[05:13] <Scunizi> SJ2000: don't discont Hardware Drivers.. lots of times they work.. lately not though
[05:13] <Barridus> thanks XD
[05:13] <Davide> well install is basically done if you wanna wait
[05:13] <Davide> probably less than 5 minutes :D
[05:13] <Scunizi> ziroday: except when what's available in the system doesn't work..
[05:13] <SJ2000> ziroday: I've had more success with the "manual" drivers then "Hardware Drivers"
[05:14] <mneptok> Barridus: if you want a hint, avoid using the word "girl"
[05:14] <Barridus> i can hang a few more
[05:14] <ziroday> egn: because its auto-configured nowadays
[05:14] <Davide> oh I think it's done
[05:14] <Davide> restarting
[05:14] <DJvRadio> well imma turn in for the night but ill be here
[05:14] <egn> ziroday: when X starts?
[05:14] <Barridus> mneptok, well it was simpler than saying i was going to go into my hairdresser and ask her out for dinner XD
[05:14] <ziroday> egn: yep
[05:14] <egn> ziroday: what if I want to add something to it?
[05:15] <mneptok> Barridus: "woman" or "lady" is your best nomenclature for someone you want to date, IME ;)
[05:15] <ziroday> egn: feel free to.
[05:15] <egn> ziroday: hm, okay
[05:15] <Davide> what is grub?
[05:15] <SJ2000> perhaps if they actually stopped forcing buggy drivers down our throats through naglets and [recommended] we wouldn't have to use the manual drivers since they are more up to date then what ubuntu offers through Hardware Drivers
[05:15] <Davide> grub loading....
[05:15] <mneptok> !grub > Davide
[05:15] <BoltClock> hi, fixing grub after a windows installation strictly, only only only affects the mbr right?
[05:15] <Barridus> mneptok, yeah but this is guy talk ;
[05:15] <jjrev> grub=boot loader
[05:15] <Barridus> )
[05:15] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:15] <Davide> ah Thank you!
[05:16] <ziroday> BoltClock: yep
[05:16] <cchaos> Just noticed this : Apr 10 01:35:34 adz kernel: [    0.428369] weird, boot CPU (#0) not listedby the BIOS <-- that normal?
[05:16] <BoltClock> ziroday: hey there :)
[05:16] <ziroday> BoltClock: hey :)
[05:16] <mneptok> Barridus: really, i'll tell my wife to get off of IRC. man, this makes things easier.
[05:16] <Tarzan^> is yahoo voice available  on linux
[05:16] <Davide> BOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO NO SOUND!
[05:16] <Xcell> lolol
[05:16] <Barridus> DOWN WITH PULSE
[05:16] <jjrev> what sound card do you have?
[05:16] <loquitus_of_borg> Does compiz work with Jaunty?
[05:16] <loquitus_of_borg> I have Jaunty
[05:17] <Barridus> your soundcard might not be able to handle pulse, Davide
[05:17] <mneptok> Davide: open a Terminal and type "killall pulseaudio" (no quotes)
[05:17] <ziroday> loquitus_of_borg: yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <Scunizi> Davide: once loaded open the terminal.. Applications/accessories/terminal and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and your system will be brought up to par with all the updates.
[05:17] <Barridus> mneptok, well this is far from my first date experience XD
[05:18] <RobotCow> find
[05:18] <loquitus_of_borg> ziroday: yes as in it works? (sorry... I am on that other channel now but in case nobody helps me there...)
[05:19] <ziroday> loquitus_of_borg: yes it works. And yes you have to ask in #ubuntu+1 only
[05:19] <Davide> Scunizi ok running upgrade then gonna do dist-upgrade
[05:19] <Barridus> loquitus_of_borg, well it depends on hardware, but it runs awesome for me
[05:19]  * mneptok heads to bed
[05:19] <Barridus> on two machines i might add
[05:19] <BiosElement> ziroday, I checked twitter and MSN was down. This time it wasn't the protocol failing. Their whole network went kobonk.
[05:19] <jjrev> has anyone tried 'awesomeWM' ??
[05:19] <Davide> Scunizi can that be done from the GUI?
[05:19] <BoltClock> ziroday: a little update on what happened: windows 7 refused to install, i erased its partition, tried some ways to remove its bootloader, ended up killing xp as well and lost my stuff, ubuntu is intact, reinstalled xp, now i need to regrub
[05:20] <ziroday> BiosElement: wfm
[05:20] <BoltClock> ziroday: and i am worried about regrubbing...
[05:20] <Scunizi> Davide: with the && between commands you could have done it all on one line.. the && means "continue if the last was successful"
[05:20] <roberto> !list
[05:20] <Davide> ooh
[05:20] <Davide> LOL
[05:20] <ziroday> !grub | BoltClock follow the first link and you will be fine
[05:20] <Davide> didnt know that thanks
[05:21] <hmw> I found a solution to the problem "webcam too dark" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614098 but I am not allowed to answer that post. How does this forum work, and where should I leave my solution?
[05:21] <Flannel> hmw: Try #ubuntuforums
[05:21] <hmw> thanks
[05:21] <Scunizi> hmw: register on the form then login to answer posts
[05:22] <hmw> i am logged in
[05:22] <cchaos> hmw: it may be a locked post
[05:22] <Im_Toast> My sound just randomly went out (Sometime between last night and tonight) can anyone give me some pointers for diagnosing the problem
[05:22] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:22] <RobotCow> is there a command to show how many man pages there are for a specific command?
[05:22] <BoltClock> ziroday: in `grub> setup (hd0)`, is (hd0) definitely referring to my windows disk?
[05:23] <hmw> cchaos: hmm... might be... but its like that with every problem, i had found a solution. I am near to giving up
[05:23] <Barridus> hmw, that thread is from 2007...  it's now in a read only archive
[05:23] <ziroday> BoltClock: it refers to the first disk, so yes. And I have to go, bye
[05:23] <UbuntuShake73263> I need ubuntu help!
[05:23] <UbuntuShake73263> lol
[05:23] <BoltClock> ziroday: bye
[05:23] <cchaos> Im_Toast: changed anything? Loose wire?
[05:23] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263,
[05:23] <jjrev> what kind of help
[05:23] <UbuntuShake73263> well...
[05:24] <UbuntuShake73263> first off, just switched to ubuntu
[05:24] <UbuntuShake73263> and i love it
[05:24] <UbuntuShake73263> second...
[05:24] <Barridus> !ask UbuntuShake73263
[05:24] <hmw> Barridus: ic.
[05:24] <cchaos> hmw: then look for posts that arent old lol
[05:24] <Barridus> !ask|UbuntuShake73263
[05:24] <Im_Toast> cchaos: It's internal speakers (I'm on a laptop) and I didn't think I changed anything... that's why I'm not sure what to try lol
[05:24] <Anon> Hello all.
[05:24] <hmw> cchaos: people find this old post on google. THe solution should be added.
[05:25] <Anon> Could someone help me with my places menu issues?
[05:25] <UbuntuShake73263> when i install kde on my system, then reboot... my system seems to hang at "checking battery" or whatever it is, and wont finish loading to my gui
[05:25] <jjrev> have you tried installing "Kubuntu" ???
[05:26] <Barridus> UbuntuShake73263, or kubuntu-desktop?
[05:26] <Anon> When I try to open my home folder via the places menu, I get this: 'No application is registered as handling this file'
[05:26] <cchaos> Im_Toast:  is there a "mute" button on your laptop?
[05:26] <Im_Toast> cchaos: Yes =P But no, it's not muted lol
[05:26] <jtgiri> HI guys i am having issue with adding a user to www-data group , I added a user with  useradd  -G www-data -s /bin/bash -d /home/sandboxdev -m sandboxdev , but when I cat /etc/password it shows like this sandboxdev:x:1007:1007::/home/sandboxdev:/bin/bash , I have no idea why it's not showing in www-data group
[05:27] <cchaos> Im_toast: I assume youve checked the volume too?
[05:27] <Anon> jtgiri: try doing it via gui (no knowledge of that command)
[05:27] <Im_Toast> cchaos: Yeah lol, I've checked the simple things already =P
[05:28] <UbuntuShake73263> sorry, im having some internet issues... comcast... i tried installing both kde and kubuntu...
[05:28] <jtgiri> Anon: now gui :(
[05:28] <ZeZu> is there a default username/password for jaunty if you somehow manage to install without one ?
[05:28] <Double_Kill2> hey guys uhm i need some help
[05:28] <UbuntuShake73263> when i installed kubuntu... it shows me the kubuntu load screen, but then goes back to the stuff thats loading and seems to hang on battery state
[05:28] <Xcell>  try setting everything to ALSA in sound options, then do sudo alsa force-reload
[05:29] <Double_Kill2> can anyone here help me with a firefox problem?
[05:29] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, what kind of machine are you installing on?
[05:29] <mopoyo> GUYS
[05:29] <UbuntuShake73263> im thinking it might have something to do with my graphics card?
[05:29] <Im_Toast> Xcell: K,  1 sec
[05:29] <Davide> Scunizi done
[05:29] <mopoyo> when i start kubuntu there is no sound
[05:29] <hmw> cchaos: that thread is the first result, when using google with "ubuntu webcam too dark"... old or not, the solution should be added, i guess... anyhow, thanks for your hints
[05:29] <UbuntuShake73263> well, its a system i built.... all custom stuff.
[05:29] <Double_Kill2> i need help with a firefox problem
[05:29] <Scunizi> Davide: if it asks for a restart do it.
[05:29] <mopoyo> but when i type sudo modprobe snd-cmipci the sound works!!!!!!
[05:29] <UbuntuShake73263> my graphics card is a nvidia 5200
[05:29] <Double_Kill2> can anyone help me?
[05:29] <Davide> it doesnt... should I do it anyway?
[05:29] <Scunizi> Double_Kill2: what is the problem..
[05:30] <mopoyo> GUYS PLEASE LISTEN
[05:30] <Anon> My places menu is an amalgamation of fails.
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> okay when i open up firefox now it goes to like a total full screen and i can see the minimize/max/and close buttons
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> and stuff
[05:30] <Scunizi> Davide: nope. if it doesn't say it needs to don't
[05:30] <Anon> It refuses to open anything.
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> and it is really agrivating
[05:30] <mopoyo> GUYS PLEASE LISTEN TO ME
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> i tried re installing it
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> but that didnt work
[05:30] <Anon> mopoyo: say it already
[05:30] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I'm still sound-less
[05:30] <Scunizi> Double_Kill2: you can or can't see the buttons
[05:30] <Double_Kill2> can't
[05:31] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, anything else special about this system?
[05:31] <mopoyo> Anon: when i start kubuntu the sound doesn't work  but when i type sudo modprobe snd-cmipci the sound works!!!!!!
[05:31] <Scunizi> Double_Kill2: did yo do an upgrade? or install a plugin lately or something?
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> no
[05:31] <cchaos> Double_Kill2: press f11 in firefox
[05:31] <hmw> Double_Kill2: you mean CAN NOT see? your compiz might be compromised. Try metacity --replace
[05:31] <Anon> mopoyo: then add that command to the things executed when you log in.
[05:31] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  try this also.. keep in mind this usually works.  alsa-mixer alsa-utils
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> OMG
[05:31] <Xcell> install
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> cchaos
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> I LOVE YOU
[05:31] <UbuntuShake73263> hmw, well, what do you want to know about hardware? its got an asus motherboard, amd duo core, im not sure on the hd, but its from my older system
[05:31] <Anon> mopoyo: Can't help beyond that, I use gnome.
[05:31] <FloodBot2> Double_Kill2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <Schalken> We do "make && sudo make install" to compile and install a source archive, but what do you do to install the header files in /usr/include/ for development?
[05:31] <cchaos> lol
[05:31] <Double_Kill2> cchaos your amazing!
[05:32] <Double_Kill2> sorry floodbot2
[05:32] <hmw> UbuntuShake73263 looks like you typed the wrong nick name
[05:32] <UbuntuShake73263> what?
[05:32] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, don't worry about it..
[05:32] <hmw> UbuntuShake73263 i didnt talk to you
[05:33] <jjrev> hmw, i think he/she might be new to mrc
[05:33] <UbuntuShake73263> me?
[05:33] <jjrev> er. irc
[05:33] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Where am I supposed to be doing this?
[05:33] <Xcell> terminal
[05:33] <bonez46> where do I find what my computer is named and the name of the workgroup for the network .. so I can share files with others on LAN..
[05:33] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, don't worry about hmw
[05:33] <UbuntuShake73263> ohzie, alright, cool cool
[05:33] <UbuntuShake73263> er...oh
[05:33] <Im_Toast> Xcell: alsa-mixer command not found
[05:33] <hmw> UbuntuShake73263 - everything is fine, i just thought you wanted to answer someone. It was certainly not me
[05:34] <usser> Schalken, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:34] <Xcell> sudo apt-get install
[05:34] <mopoyo> what do you guys use to play videos?
[05:34] <usser> mopoyo, mplayer
[05:34] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Oh install it =P
[05:34] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, so the load screen hangs on battery..
[05:34] <Scunizi> mopoyo: vlc or mplayer
[05:34] <Anon> bonez46: hostname
[05:34] <clearscreen> mopoyo: vlc
[05:34] <jjrev> are you able to boot to a gnome gui?
[05:34] <UbuntuShake73263> Alright, so, after installing kde and/or kubuntu on my ubuntu system, it seems to hang on battery state
[05:34] <UbuntuShake73263> well, im not really sure how to change back to a gnome gui...
[05:34] <bonez46> Anon: is this handled though in any gui? or just at command line?
[05:34] <UbuntuShake73263> last time it happened, i formatted... lol
[05:34] <Anon> bonez46: cli
[05:35] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, heh.  i forget the file name
[05:35] <bonez46> cli?
[05:35] <mopoyo> do i type apt-get install vlc
[05:35] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, try "find / -name xsession"
[05:35] <Im_Toast> bonez46: command line interface
[05:35] <Anon> bonez46: command line interface. That is, yes, execute that in the command line.
[05:35] <bonez46> ok.
[05:35] <Scunizi> mopoyo: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:35] <hmw> mopoyo: most probably sudo apt-get ...
[05:35] <UbuntuShake73263> where do i do that? in a terminal?
[05:35] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, yes.
[05:35] <Schalken> usser: Yes, that will install what is required to build it, but I'm asking what is needed to put the appropriate header files into /usr/include/ so I can write software for it.
[05:36] <mopoyo> where does it download vlc from
[05:36] <Anon> mopoyo: ubuntu repos
[05:36] <Scunizi> mopoyo: the great repository of ubuntu
[05:36] <ZeZu> hmm,  it seems i dont have any user and i'm locked out of root, fun
[05:36] <bonez46> Anon: ok, but how do I assure that my resources are shared, so that my windows machine can see the printer attached to my ubuntu box?
[05:36] <usser> Schalken, software for what? i dont think i understand?
[05:36] <Anon> bonez46: That, I can't help you with, unfortunately. Never done anything of the sort.
[05:36] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, also try .xsession if that yields nothing
[05:37] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I'm going to try a random reboot... that seems to fix stuff 50% of the time ;)
[05:37] <Davide> Scunizi bleah still no sound...
[05:37] <Xcell> ok.. did you install all that tho?
[05:37] <Anon> My places menu won't open my home folder. Any ideas?
[05:37] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Yeah
[05:37] <UbuntuShake73263> seems like its hanging after that first command
[05:37] <bonez46> ok
[05:37] <Scunizi> Davide: did you check the alsa mixer to see if it was muted?
[05:37] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Still no sound...
[05:37] <Xcell> ok good luck
[05:37] <Davide> now how do I do that/
[05:37] <Davide> ?
[05:37] <Davide> did you ask me to do that I must have missed it sorry
[05:38] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, no - its just searching your entire filesystem for that xsession file
[05:38] <Scunizi> Davide: double click the little speaker icon up by the date/clock and you'll see the sliders.. you have to play with them.
[05:38] <Schalken> I have downloaded the source for libgpod in .tar.gz format. Extracted, ./configured, make'd and make install'd. That has correctly install the libraries. But to develop for libgpod I need header files that I can include. I'm asking what needs to be done in the source tree in order to install these header files.
[05:38] <Scunizi> Davide: PCM needs to be up.. Master needs to be up.
[05:38] <pumpkinseed> does anyone have a recommendation for a Twitter client for Ubuntu?
[05:38] <UbuntuShake73263> ohzie, cool cool... i also tried .xsession in a seperate terminal but i got a command not found
[05:38] <UbuntuShake73263> the find is still searching, i'll let you know
[05:39] <Anon> pumpkinseed: gtwitter (gnome) and choqok (kde) are some that come to mind. All of them are in the repos.
[05:39] <Schalken> usser: ^^
[05:39] <Anon> pumpkinseed: apt-cache search twitter
[05:40] <UbuntuShake73263> alright, i got a bunch of stuff found when i did a find xsession. 2 files in the /root/ folder but most of em are in the /proc folder
[05:40] <UbuntuShake73263> and they all say permission denied
[05:40] <pumpkinseed> Anon: Yeah, I know of a bunch of clients... I'm just wondering what some of you guys recommend
[05:40] <Davide> Scunizi so everything unmuted and up?
[05:40] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, how are you doing the search?  can you swith to another virtual terminal with an "Alt+Fx"??
[05:40] <pumpkinseed> Hence "recommendation"...
[05:40] <Double_Kill2> does anyone in here have an idea of how to back up my current partition as an image/.iso so i can burn it to disc as my backup?
[05:40] <Scunizi> Davide: yep.. you might also have to click on properties and add Front and Side.. but guessing from the age of your machine that's probably not an option
[05:40] <pumpkinseed> I ask for things in a certain way for a reason, thank you very much :P
[05:40] <Anon> pumpkinseed: I have no idea. Try them out and see which one works for you, I guess.
[05:40] <Anon> :p
[05:41] <pumpkinseed> thanks
[05:41] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, you can use "dd"
[05:41] <usser> Schalken, just get the header files and put them into /usr/include and source files and put them into /usr/src
[05:41] <Double_Kill2> what's dd?
[05:41] <Anon> pumpkinseed: Ask on twitter if you have enough followers :O
[05:41] <Anon> *:P
[05:41] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, command line thing.. > "man dd"
[05:41] <Tarzan^> does any buddy knows any apps on linux where i can get yahoo voice support ?
[05:41] <Schalken> usser: How do I know which ones I need? There are about a dozen, and the old libgpod-dev package only has one of them. Surely there would be a command I can run in the source tree to do it for me?
[05:41] <Double_Kill2> oh, can you explain, sorry i'm new to linux :/
[05:41] <mopoyo> guys where can i learn the commands of ubuntu?!!?
[05:42] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, there are also plenty of tools that do that.. gui tools that is
[05:42] <Anon> mopoyo: There are too many to know.
[05:42] <usser> Schalken, its nothing special really, its just for your convinience that you put stuff into /usr/include so you can write stuff #include <libgpod/blah.h> instead of #include "libgpod/blah.h"
[05:42] <Davide> Scunizi yeah nothing happening... I'm giving up on this with this hardware at least...
[05:42] <Anon> mopoyo: man <insertcommand> for info on a command.
[05:42] <Davide> gonna have to buy another card or something
[05:42] <Schalken> mopoyo: This might be a good start: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/4/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[05:42] <tgr> a question i was wondering if you could tell me how to install a compiz theme specifically this one http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Yakano+-Colors-?content=95885 in ubuntu
[05:42] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, alright, i got a bunch of stuff found when i did a find xsession. 2 files in the /root/ folder but most of em are in the /proc folder. They all say permission denied if that matters.
[05:42] <Scunizi> Davide: add in cards are cheap.. check craigs list in your area
[05:42] <Double_Kill2> yes i am new to this so i'm not exactally totally following you
[05:42] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:42] <usser> Schalken, if not sure just put the header files that you know you'll need into your own program source tree, again /usr/include is just for your convenience
[05:43] <Anon> Could someone help me with my places menu?
[05:43] <Davide> I have the windows drivers can't I FORCE them onto linux? LOL
[05:43] <Xcell> lol
[05:43] <jjrev> Double_Kill2, look into GParted
[05:43] <Davide> LOL Xcell
[05:43] <nickgarvey> I'm trying to compile gcalctool but I'm not sure how to specify where to find the .glade file,  where I should ask this question?
[05:43] <Schalken> usser: I see. I just thought there was a "right way" to do it. Thanks for your help!
[05:43] <usser> Schalken, sure
[05:43] <Anon> nickgarvey: their forums
[05:44] <mopoyo> what does apt-get update do?
[05:44] <Xcell> brb.. coffee.
[05:44] <ary> ziroday: what is the difference between opensource ati driver and catalyst?
[05:44] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, heh.. yeah, i should've known better
[05:44] <hmw> anon: what do you need?
[05:44] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, i'm pretty sure its going to be ~/.xsession
[05:44] <UbuntuShake73263> oh no, what did i do wrong? i dont like the sound of that
[05:44] <Davide> well... I"m actually gonna have to install windows now :(
[05:44] <UbuntuShake73263> lol
[05:44] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it updates the package database
[05:44] <Anon> hmw: My places menu doesn't open my home folder. It says No application is registered as handling this file
[05:45] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, try "nano ~/.xsession"
[05:45] <Anon> hmw: My home folder is on the same partition/disk as everything else.
[05:45] <mopoyo> lstarnes: i'm a noob... wat is the package database
[05:45] <genii> mopoyo: It fetches the latest list of what you can install
[05:45] <jingjing> !ubotu ntop
[05:45] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, looks like a blank file
[05:45] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:45] <Davide> hey Scunizi how about 7.10 could that work?  I still have that on CD from last time I tried to mess with mythtv
[05:45] <Scunizi> Davide: nope.. that would be a regression
[05:46] <lstarnes> mopoyo: the list of what packages are available and information about them, like what version they are, what other packages they need, and a description of what each one does
[05:46] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, alright.  let me get back to you
[05:46] <Davide> Scunizi if I run from "Live CD?" can I test with that to see if I get sound? with 7.10?
[05:46] <hmw> Anon: something seems to be broken with your gnome or nautilus. I cant tell, whats wrong, neither do I know, where to look for the error. It probably is related to something you or a program did.
[05:46] <UbuntuShake73263> right on jjrev, take your time and thanks for the help.
[05:46] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:46] <Scunizi> Davide: yea.. you could.. if it works there then it's just the setup in the new install that needs tweeking
[05:46] <hmw> Anon: do you have any idea, what action could have been related to this?
[05:47] <Anon> hmw: None at all.
[05:47] <mopoyo> Fetched 5776B in 2s (2009B/s)
[05:47] <mopoyo> Reading package lists... Done
[05:47] <mopoyo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[05:47] <mopoyo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:47] <FloodBot2> mopoyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <Scunizi> !sound | Davide
[05:47] <hinkley_> hey guys i wanna install ubuntu onto my HDD for Dual Boot, or standalone, whats the go with Drivers and shit for my mobo, sound card, ? i have sorted the Graphics out its just mobo, (i have DQ6 N680SLi)
[05:47] <MrObvious_> Hi. I don't have a little network icon and I just upgraded to 8.10 tonight.
[05:47] <MrObvious_> !language | hinkley_
[05:47] <lalillo> hello i have a HP card to watch tv, can someone help me to install it please
[05:48] <hmw> Anon: maybe this helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1052490.html
[05:48] <Scunizi> lalillo: check in ##linux.. nobody seems to know here.
[05:48] <mopoyo> guys
[05:48] <mopoyo> plaese
[05:48] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: could you do a "ps aux | grep Network" ?
[05:48] <hinkley_> language eh??
[05:48] <mopoyo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[05:48] <mopoyo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:48] <Anon> mopoyo: Read the error message.
[05:48] <raylu> nickgarvey: it's nm-applet, i believe
[05:48] <lalillo> Scunizi thanks
[05:48] <Scunizi> !ppagpg | mopoyo
[05:48] <Anon> mopoyo: And then think. Use common sense
[05:48] <chicoDF> i have a issue about znes 1.4 with the compilation: "make zsnes error 1"
[05:48] <MrObvious_> nickgarvey: http://pastebin.com/m14379745
[05:48] <castronovab> hello guys
[05:49] <lstarnes> chicoDF: pastebin the full output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <hinkley_> !language | MrObvious
[05:49] <chicoDF> lstarnes, ok
[05:49] <Davide> shoot dont have it lol I can only find 6.06
[05:49] <hinkley_> what did i say
[05:49] <Scunizi> Davide: try it
[05:49] <ary> I need propietary ati drivers for xorg 1.6
[05:49] <MrObvious> hinkley_: S word.
[05:49] <hinkley_> LOL! thats a not a bad word is it? LMFAO.
[05:50] <Anon> hmw: Wow.
[05:50] <merquis> is hotmail working for anyone? i cant log in to it :( thought it was just an emesene problem
[05:50] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, can you describe what you did to install KDE from Ubuntu?
[05:50] <hinkley_> if ur religious or something then u might think it is.. christ.
[05:50] <MrObvious> Where have you been hinkley?
[05:50] <hmw> Anon: solved?
[05:50] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Any ideas?
[05:50] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  there?
[05:50] <Anon> hmw: That was it. Thank you immensely. The gap between forum support and IRC support is immense.
[05:50] <chuxxsss> Why does sudo not work anymore?   I can do sudo -k
[05:50] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Sound-less =(
[05:50] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: well we can try something easy, killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel
[05:51] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, i believe i went into the package manager and tried to install both kde and kubuntu through that. I believe i also tried an apt-get through the terminal to install kde, and it seemed liked it worked, but nothing changed. lol
[05:51] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: actually you don't even need the && and the stuff after it
[05:51] <MrObvious> Nothing.
[05:51] <MrObvious> lol
[05:51] <mopoyo> where do i find where my public keys are kept?
[05:51] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake: When you get KDE you have to select it in sessions
[05:51] <hmw> Anon: Youre welcome, glad it was just that. And yes, i like this channel very much, too. Quality of support in here is quite good also.
[05:51] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  did you right click your spkr icon and go to prefs and make it alsa?
[05:51] <chicoDF> lstarnes, http://paste.ubuntu.com/148108/
[05:51] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Hmm nothing. Odd.
[05:51] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: killall nm-applet && nm-applet
[05:51] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake: Log out, select options, sessions and KDE
[05:52] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: in what way does it not work?
[05:52] <sunapi386> how do u edit iptables?
[05:52] <hmw> anon: just a little hint: google is your friend ;-) http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&safe=off&newwindow=1&q=ubuntu+home+folder+%22no+application+is+registered%22&btnG=Suche&meta=
[05:52] <mopoyo> where do i find where my public keys are kept?
[05:52] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Yeah
[05:52] <sunapi386> i.e. i want to change my default gateway ip
[05:52] <Xcell> hmmmm
[05:53] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, so you might have only needed to do "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:53] <Davide> Found 7.10 trying
[05:53] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: if that doesn't work, right click an open spot on your panel, add to panel, notification area
[05:53] <lstarnes> sunapi386: for that, try ifconfig or route
[05:53] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, and restarted X
[05:53] <mopoyo> WHERE ARE THE PUBLIC KEYS KEPT FOR APT-GET UPDATE
[05:53] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Wow lol I lost my Gnome panel completely. lol
[05:53] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  ???
[05:53] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, so are you saying i should try to install kubuntu through the package manager after installing kde through a terminal?
[05:54] <Wavesonics> I'm setting up an SVN server, and having trouble w\ the user authentication, i would like to just use the Linux users if possible, any ideas?
[05:54] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: "gnome-panel"
[05:54] <lstarnes> chicoDF: be patient please.  If I say nothing, assume I;m working on it
[05:54] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Something is really wrong now. :\ BRB lemme try something.
[05:54] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: alright
[05:54] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake73263: What problem are you having?
[05:54] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  sorry
[05:54] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  @least install alsamixergui  so you can see what may be muted and what controlls you have
[05:54] <lstarnes> chicoDF: is that the FULL output?
[05:54] <stew> mopoyo: "man apt-key"
[05:54] <mopoyo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[05:54] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  yes
[05:54] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, not really.  if you have the default ubuntu installed, i think you can simply install "kde" from repositories and then log out and select KDE as your window manager
[05:55] <bazhang> !ppagpg > mopoyo
[05:55] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Ok I restarted X. That worked. :\
[05:55] <Scunizi> mopoyo: the key and how to install it should be listed on the PPA that you added to the sources.list..
[05:55] <lstarnes> chicoDF: I'm not sure if that is due to something bad in the source code for zsnes
[05:55] <Scunizi> mopoyo: you can also google the key number mentioned..
[05:55] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  long FULL  output
[05:55] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, do you see a gui when you start the machine to log in?
[05:55] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, when i boot up, there isnt an option that lets me pick the gui
[05:55] <DavidK999> Hello everyone
[05:55] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, is there a log in screen?
[05:55] <mopoyo> don't i have to delete that public key? because it's not available?
[05:56] <Im_Toast> UbuntuShake73263: There isn't anything that says options in the bottom left hand corner when you boot up?
[05:56] <lstarnes> mopoyo: you have to install that public key
[05:56] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: okie, at least it works
[05:56] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Downloaded
[05:56] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, if so, there should be an options button near the bottom of the log in window
[05:56] <chuxxsss> lstarnes, look like it has got to the help screen when I call it like sudo -h | so on
[05:56] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  it's a complete code for zsnes with the command "make"
[05:56] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, well, after the kubuntu screen loads, it goes back to the boot process and shows me battery state... if i switch to a new window, i think its by using f2 or the f keys or somethin, it asks me to login, so i do, but then it brings me to a terminal
[05:56] <Davide> Scunizi no sound in 7.10 live environment
[05:56] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev and im_toast, no, there is no options button for me
[05:56] <mopoyo> lstarnes: i don't understand why i have to install it?
[05:56] <BonezAU> anyone having problems with Pidgin or aMSN not signing in?
[05:57] <Im_Toast> that is wierd...
[05:57] <Cpudan80> Davide: 7.10 is real old, use 8.04 at least
[05:57] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it is needed to make sure that the packages are safe
[05:57] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  also check your (sound) in sys/prefs/sound and fiddle with that.. make sure its all on alsa
[05:57] <Scunizi> Davide: considering the age of the mb.. it should be fixable.. just will take some investigation and experimentation
[05:57] <chuxxsss> no BonezAU
[05:57] <jjrev> Im_Toast, UbuntuShake73263 agreed.. very strange
[05:57] <Scunizi> mopoyo: it also verifies that what you get from the ppa is actually from the ppa and not hijacked from someplace else
[05:57] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, so your saying that when it shows me "ubuntu" on the screen, it should have an options button at the bottom left?
[05:58] <Davide> Scunizi what kind of investigation/experimentation?  how would one go about figuring that out?  would that be too much trouble for what it's worth?
[05:58] <BlinkyToon> BonezAU,  I think MSN is making some changes that are causing problems  but pidgin seems fine
[05:58] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, yep
[05:58] <Anon> hmw: I was pretty sure I searched. Guess I needed to search better.
[05:58] <lstarnes> mopoyo: you could try sudo apt-key update
[05:58] <Scunizi> Davide: up to you.. just more learning..:)
[05:58] <chuxxsss> just test amsn BonezAU  login in ok from here in AU
[05:58] <hmw> Anon: np.
[05:58] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, ahhh... i dont know what i did wrong to install it then. Ive formatted and reinstalled like 3 times and never once have i see a button.
[05:59] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, i suppose there could be a slight chance i missed it.... but i cant imagine how. lol
[05:59] <Im_Toast> Xcell: There is no prefs file in /sys
[05:59] <Cryonisis> good morning to you all.
[05:59] <Im_Toast> Xcell: the only thing there that starts with a p is power
[05:59] <Xcell> sys/preferences/sound
[05:59] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, is there a gui when you log in to the machine?
[05:59] <Davide> well I think I'm done for tonight, cause the wife wants to watch tv...
[06:00] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148110/
[06:00] <UbuntuShake73263> yea, i installed something custom but yes, theres a gui for my login
[06:00] <Davide> maybe tomorrow... where should I start Scunizi?
[06:00] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: Sorry about that.
[06:00] <Scunizi> Davide: I'll have ubottu give you links..
[06:00] <chuxxsss> lstarnes,  did you get my last
[06:00] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, but even before the custom thing i didnt have a button.
[06:00] <Scunizi> !sound | Davide
[06:00] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, ah ha!  methinks that is your problem...
[06:00] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Brb
[06:00] <Xcell> ok
[06:00] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263, it may not be a button per se
[06:00] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: so what's the problem with sudo?
[06:00] <rongjiang_> New bug #358899 in fglrx-installer (restricted): "The windows resizes so slowly(max, min, resize)" [Undecided, New] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/358899
[06:00] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  it's a full code
[06:01] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: eh I had a feeling that would work but that seemed too easy :)
[06:01] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, but i dont remember seeing that button before even with a fresh install too. I gotta check... let me reboot.
[06:01] <chuxxsss> lstarnes, look like it has got to the help screen when I call it like sudo -h | so on
[06:01] <rongjiang_> anybody can help me for this bug?
[06:01] <UbuntuShake73263> jjrev, i'll be right back, thanks again for your help
[06:01] <mopoyo> when i try sudo apt-key update it says 2 unchanged...
[06:01] <chuxxsss> will notletmelogin in
[06:01] <lstarnes> chicoDF: is there anything before that (by the way, use nick: or nick, instead of nick~$ when addressing someone)
[06:01] <MrObvious> nickgarvey: The Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? xD
[06:01] <jjrev> UbuntuShake73263,  np.. i'll be here
[06:01] <kimws1901> hello~
[06:01] <Cryonisis> Hi there, who would I speak to about getting some advice with regards to problems I am having with the installation of ubuntu?
[06:02] <lstarnes> Cryonisis: this channel
[06:02] <hmw> !ask | Cryonisis
[06:02] <nickgarvey> MrObvious: yeah
[06:02] <mamama> hey guys, I've been having this strange issue, I can see my sda disk and it's partitions (1,2,3, they're ntfs) however when I try to mount any of them I get a $MFT invalid magic. I tried ntfsfix /dev/sda1 but it says that they aren't there (it's true, only sda is there on /dev)
[06:03] <mamama> How weird is that? how can I run ntfsfix on sda1? I can see it on parted
[06:03] <lstarnes> chicoDF: it looks like an extra -L at the end of that g++ command.  I think the maintainers of zsnes might want to know about that
[06:03] <mamama> I can also see them from fdisk, and whenever I try to 'fix' them it says ntfs support isn't available
[06:03] <_-RED-_> hello
[06:03] <hmw> mamama: seeing it in parted is not the same as having it mounted
[06:03] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  mmm
[06:03] <mamama> I'm on a netbook so I can't really boot into windows and run chkfdisk from a CD/DVD
[06:03] <t0r_> server irc.ru
[06:04] <mopoyo> NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[06:04] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  tks
[06:04] <mamama> hmw I can't use ntfsfix to sort of fix the partition because it says sda1 doesn't exist
[06:04] <t0r_> /connect irc.ru
[06:04] <mamama> yet I can see it on fdisk/parted no problem
[06:04] <hmw> Cryonisis: your in the right place to ask us all. What is your problem?
[06:04] <Cryonisis> typing it now, sec
[06:04] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: but "sudo -h" doesn't work?
[06:05] <mamama> hmw Any ideas ?
[06:05] <baz> if i wanted to connect an sshfs drive when a certain user logs into the desktop, where would I put the command?
[06:05] <mopoyo> where can i get this key NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[06:05] <Cryonisis> I am running Vista Ultimate 32 bit. Downloaded 9.04, booted off the disc and started the install. when ti came to starting the partition tool, a message came up about GNU Parted not supporting something or other and that the coding was experimental and offered to "go Back" or Continue. I have selected both and nothing happens. It just sits and does nothing at all.
[06:05] <chuxxsss> No I am getting sudo -h| -l | -L so on lstarnes
[06:05] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: what is NOT working with sudo?
[06:05] <kimws1901> hello
[06:05] <hmw> mamama: thats weird... please pastebin the output of: mount, lspci, cat /etc/fstab
[06:06] <chuxxsss> normally I just sudo
[06:06] <chuxxsss> and a password
[06:06] <chuxxsss> konsole
[06:06] <lstarnes> mopoyo: according to that https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%27s%20keys%20to%20your%20system you should use a command like sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 9423A34CCA967634
[06:06] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: you might have to use Vista's partitioning tool and make room for ubuntu prior to installing.
[06:06] <_-RED-_> i dont want to sound like a nut but i just installed ubuntu 9.04 nice as hell lol but no svideo and no ati drivers for it so i install xp and i hape ms so this was hard for me but i need s video to work lol . im a open source lover lol i make all people i know use open source so when will linux get this shit right so i can love my computer lmao
[06:06] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: does that work?
[06:06] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Sorry, any other ideas?
[06:07] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  did you find sound under sys/preferences/sound?
[06:07] <lstarnes> mopoyo: I may be wrong with that one
[06:07] <chicoDF> lstarnes~$  i wish to use NETPLAY but the lastest version do not have
[06:07] <Im_Toast> RED: why don't you just keep using 8.10 or 8.04 untill 9.04 comes out then?
[06:07] <kimws1901> ddddd
[06:07] <lstarnes> chicoDF: I don't know anything about that
[06:07] <k-man> where do i find the live cd versions of ubuntu?
[06:07] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I told you, there isn't a preferences in my sys folder...
[06:07] <dawson> Hello, I'm having a problem with my keyboard. The Function keys on the top are not working for any application. The only thing I get when I press F1 is a window on the corner giving me power information. Any ideas?
[06:07] <Scunizi> k-man: www.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <chuxxsss> I was check rkhunter and need to sudo into it..  As my harddrive is accessing all the time and it has only done this more reasonly
[06:08] <_-RED-_> cuz 810 dont work with svideo lol i tryed all .
[06:08] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  sorry..im still onother version.. can you find the sound tho?
[06:08]  * chicoDF anybody known about netplay in zsnes ?
[06:08] <mamama> Here's the pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/1387751
[06:08] <Cryonisis> Scunizi: I have created a 40gb partition specifically to install ubuntu. should I use the windows partition manager and just delete that partition all together and let ubuntu find the unused pace and create the partition itself?
[06:08] <k-man> Scunizi: do i just get any image or is there special live cd versions?
[06:08] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Let me try a locate
[06:08] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: that might just work
[06:08] <mamama> hwm http://www.pastebin.ca/1387751 that's the fstab, what was the command again? sorry I'm on console and apparently can't scroll up
[06:08] <hmw> Cryonisis: that sounds like a good idea. You might have accidently formatted that partition, and grub might not like that.
[06:08] <Scunizi> k-man: the main download link for the "Desktop" is the live cd version
[06:08] <mamama> hmw I mean
[06:08] <Cryonisis> ok thanks. will give it a go.
[06:09] <kimws1901> i have question,, at ubuntu, windows game is not use?
[06:09] <BonezAU> something is certainly going on with windows live (msn etc). when i go to http://login.live.com and log in, i get this error: We're unable to complete your request
[06:09] <BonezAU> Windows Live ID is experiencing technical difficulties. Please try again later
[06:09] <Cryonisis> ty for your help. have a good morning.
[06:09] <lstarnes> kimws1901: you can run may windows programs in linux using wine
[06:09] <hmw> mamama: lspci, df -h, /etc/fstab
[06:09] <Scunizi> BonezAU: they're rebooting windows server 2003 for the 3rd time today
[06:09] <BonezAU> Scunizi, only the 3rd time? that's pretty good uptime I must say
[06:10] <hmw> mamama: lspci, df -h, mount
[06:10] <_-RED-_> i do all the info i find on google and the ubuntu help but no use lol and this makes me go back to windows lol and it makes me mad as hell i hadte ms and bill gate lmao but one day linux will work on all so i wait
[06:10] <Davide> !sound
[06:10] <mopoyo> ok it worked lstarnes, goodbye
[06:10] <chuxxsss> I just got a redirection to windows live BonezAU
[06:10] <Scunizi> BonezAU: yea.. they've been running it in a linux hosted vm to make it easier  ... :)
[06:10] <lstarnes> !wine | kimws1901
[06:10] <mamama> hmw here we go: http://www.pastebin.ca/1387753
[06:10] <hmw> mamama: you might be able to scroll up in irssi with PageUp
[06:10] <mamama> Using pork actually
[06:10] <B3rz3rk3r> is the reason r2-d2 beeps so much because someone screwed up the alsa drivers?
[06:10] <mamama> But yea there's the output
[06:11] <dawson> disregard that, function setting was on
[06:11] <BonezAU> lol
[06:11] <mamama> I'm on a netbook, running ubuntu from a flashdrive
[06:11] <Im_Toast> Xcell: You think this could be it? /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/include/config/sound
[06:11] <mopoyo> where can i get the list of packages?
[06:11] <kimws1901> !wine lstames
[06:11] <mopoyo> where can i find a list of packages!
[06:11] <hmw> mmamama: looks like your drive is not sdA but sdB... try to use /dev/sdb1 with that ntfs fix
[06:11] <chuxxsss> It's down I think BonezAU
[06:11] <BonezAU> chuxxsss, i'm getting a mixture of messages. aMSN says Wrong username or password, http://login.live.com says technical difficulties and i just tried it a 2nd time and it said wrong username or password...bloody windows
[06:12] <Xcell> no.. Im_Toast  there is no sound file under admin or prefs?.. if not.. go to prefs and go to main menue and make sure it is checked
[06:12] <Scunizi> mopoyo: on the gui to to system/Admin/Synaptic Package manager .. on the gui apt-cache search <package name>
[06:12] <hmw> mmamama: nah... sdb1 is your /boot...
[06:12] <chuxxsss> I use hotmail mate  my amsn is working
[06:12] <_-RED-_> fook this i just use windows lol i cant get svideo 2 work or a lot of thing so when linux or ubuntu fix this all be on windows :P
[06:12] <mamama> hmw That's the flashdrive
[06:12] <mamama> hmw the netbook HD is sda
[06:12] <Schalken> chuxxsss: The MSN servers are dead.
[06:12] <BonezAU> chuxxsss, i use a gmail address for my live passport
[06:13] <chuxxsss> ok
[06:13] <BonezAU> it would be nice of them to update their service status page
[06:13] <hmw> mmamama: is ther files like /dev/sda* ?
[06:13] <Im_Toast> You mean the sound program in preferences?
[06:13] <Im_Toast> Xcell: You mean the sound program in preferences?
[06:13] <Xcell> yes...lol
[06:13] <chuxxsss> amsn for me is working I just can check mail
[06:13] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I had already done that earlier... lol
[06:14] <Im_Toast> Xcell: When you said manually I thought you meant edit the config file
[06:14] <lstarnes> mopoyo: try looking in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[06:14] <Im_Toast> Xcell: So I'm trying to find it rofl
[06:14] <Xcell> lol
[06:14] <chuxxsss> anyone which update would have stop me using sudo in console?
[06:14] <ziroday> chuxxsss: none
[06:14] <lstarnes> chuxxsss: are you trying to run things without needing sudo?
[06:14] <BonezAU> chuxxsss, what error message are you getting?
[06:15] <Xcell> Im_Toast--  try switching to oss mixer?..
[06:15] <Im_Toast> Xcell: Which one? there are 3 oss
[06:15] <mopoyo> lstarnes, i'm using kubuntu
[06:15] <Xcell> right click volume control and prefs.. switch to oss
[06:15] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it might be adept in kubuntu
[06:15] <Scunizi> mopoyo: look for aptitude on the menu
[06:15] <Xcell> try every one.. lol
[06:16] <Scunizi> mopoyo: or adept like lstarnes mentioned
[06:16] <chuxxsss> I fix it haven't use it for a while
[06:16] <mopoyo> holy crap 148 for one game!!!!
[06:16] <mopoyo> 148MB
[06:16] <mopoyo> and i just installed one game
[06:16] <mopoyo> or is it updating all my packages?!?!
[06:17] <Scunizi> mopoyo: that is small when compared to a windows game.. or it's updating
[06:17] <mopoyo> crap....... it's updating all my programs
[06:17] <lstarnes> mopoyo: installing a package also requires installing all packaages needed by it
[06:17] <lstarnes> *packages
[06:17] <chuxxsss> Anyone no how to editor wine so it heres my mic.  this is so I can use Dragon Naturally speaking 10
[06:17] <mopoyo> does it automatically update all the packages?
[06:18] <lstarnes> mopoyo: any packages that may need updating
[06:18] <mopoyo> dam
[06:18] <mopoyo> i don't even use mysql
[06:18] <mylisto> hey everyone...what do ya'll think of microsoft
[06:18] <mopoyo> why should i use my bandwidth on it
[06:18] <hmw> !ot | mylisto
[06:18] <jjrev> mylisto, really??
[06:18] <Scunizi> mylisto: that's offtopic..
[06:18] <usser> !offtopic
[06:19] <mopoyo> microsoft is a shit hole
[06:19] <alps> Hi, I am using log function for a c program. but it is giving me error as I try to build it. The error is : "undefined reference to `log'". if any one knows what is the problem then please help me.
[06:19] <mylisto> hehe
[06:19] <mylisto> sorry...
[06:19] <Scunizi> mopoyo: make your language family friendly and you won't get kicked.
[06:19] <mopoyo> change log' to log
[06:19] <mopoyo> ?
[06:19] <chuxxsss> Anyone?
[06:19] <mopoyo> oh nvm
[06:20] <hmw> how does one list all partition tables of all drives? fdisk -l just does nothing on my machine
[06:20] <mopoyo> did you include the library and header?
[06:20] <Scunizi> hmw: sudo fdisk -l
[06:20] <robert00> hello can helpme please http://pastebin.com/dd5ea051
[06:20] <mylisto> was dealing with some ms people...while trying to get my girlfriends xo machine running...I'm running ubuntu on this one
[06:20] <hmw> gah... thanks Scunizi
[06:20] <Im_Toast> Xcell: I'm just gonna give up for tonight and go to bed
[06:20] <Xcell> ok.. youll get it.. talk 2 ya tomorrow
[06:20] <Im_Toast> Later
[06:20] <alps> mopoyo, its log.
[06:21] <Xcell> k
[06:21] <mopoyo> alps you have to include the math library and header dont u?
[06:21] <mylisto> so funny how they get mad when you pirate a version of xp...when you have already payed for it...and just want to use your original key
[06:21] <mylisto> "just buy another copy" what what what?
[06:21] <alps> mopoyo, yes math.h is included
[06:21] <gopogo> i just a installed a new system on i am able to connect wifi but not able to default gateway
[06:22] <gopogo> Jaunty -> its saying connected to wifi netework but not pigging default gateway
[06:22] <gopogo> and not showing up in router connected devices
[06:22] <Xcell> sleeps
[06:22] <gopogo> when i removed wep  security from router it worked
[06:22] <gopogo> why does it not work with wep
[06:22] <Scunizi> gopogo: turn off any encryption.. wpa, wpa2 wep and try again.. enable later
[06:23] <hmw> mamama: youre still here? what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?
[06:23] <gopogo> Scunizi: turn off in router ??
[06:23] <Scunizi> gopogo: web is horrible anyway.. hardly worth using.. you're better off using MAC address filtering.
[06:23] <Scunizi> *wep
[06:23] <robert00> hello can helpme please http://pastebin.com/dd5ea051
[06:23] <mopoyo> i think it's gay how ubuntu installs all these programs that you don't need!!!!!1
[06:24] <lstarnes> mopoyo: blame it on whatever you're installing that needs those packages
[06:24] <hmw> robert00: did you read the INSTALL and README files?
[06:24] <kitchenrange> hey everyone, I frequently use torrents and am a part of a website that uses ratios for various things.  I haven't forwarded my ports correctly and my seeding is messing up.  I have checked on portforward.com and I have seen my router and the instructions listed there.  My problem is that I dont know which ports to forward and to where.
[06:25] <robert00> yes i did, but i am not very good doing that, i only did make
[06:25] <hmw> kitchenrange: that depends on the client you use. You will have better chances on answers, if you search the web for something like "<mytorrentprogram> port forward howto"
[06:25] <robert00> hmw yes i did, but i am not very good doing that, i only did make
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> I installed a file from source that I downloaded through the ubuntu packages page because it couldn't be downloaded through apt or synaptic.  However, now apt and synaptic don't recognize that it's there when I try to download a program that needs it....any workarounds, or do I probably need to install everything else manually as well?
[06:25] <kitchenrange> k thx hmw
[06:26] <hmw> robert00: you will likely have to use ./configure before that. Let me find a tutorial for you...
[06:27] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: if it wasn't a .deb then the package manager hasn't logged it.. if you had to download it that way then you got it from a repo not designed for your install. or a repo that you haven't enabled.
[06:27] <hmw> robert00: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html
[06:28] <hmw> robert00: pls pastebin README and INSTALL
[06:28] <krammer_> k3b froze on my desktop and i tried to use force quit and other ways to get rid of this
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> Scunizi, I got the file from packages.ubuntu.com....I couldn't download it because I kept getting a 404 Not Found error every time apt tried to fetch it, the repo is definitely enabled
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> the file is libpq-dev
[06:29] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: then maybe the mirror you're using is having issues.. synaptic can look for a faster one automatically if you look in it's' menu
[06:30] <mopoyo> OMG
[06:30] <mopoyo> i just installed a game for ubuntu AND NOW ITS NOT HERE
[06:30] <Cryonisis> Hi, I'm back. I deleted the empty partition leaving the 40gb space but it gave me the same error when trying to read the partitions during start up.  Here is the exact text it had:      Warning: Device /dev/sde has a logical sector size of 2048.  Not all parts of GNU Parted support this at the moment, and the working code is HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL. <Go Back> <Continue>
[06:30] <jakedp> was wondering what happened to the xorgconfig utility in ubuntu 8.10?
[06:31] <krammer_> k3b froze on my desktop and i tried to use force quit are there any other ways to get rid of this
[06:31] <mopoyo> !!!!!!!!!!!11
[06:31] <jakedp> xkill krammer
[06:31] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: can you delete the partition using the partition editor built into the live cd?
[06:31] <hmw> Cryonisis: that makes sense. Usually, a sector is 4 times bigger. How did it get formatted that way? what kind of drive is it?
[06:31] <lstarnes> mopoyo: which game did you install?
[06:31] <krammer_> jakedp, how do i do that?
[06:32] <mopoyo> lstarnes, i don't remember!!! but shouldn't it be in games?
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> Scunizi, where do I look it Synaptic for that option>
[06:32] <lstarnes> mopoyo: it may depend on what it was
[06:32] <mopoyo> lstarnes, it was a shooting game
[06:32] <lstarnes> mopoyo: nexuiz?
[06:32] <mopoyo> lstarnes, and now KDE doesn't even work
[06:32] <jakedp> open a terminal or Alt-F2 and type xkill, when your cursor changes to an X click on the frozen app
[06:32] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: sorry I don't remember off the top of my head.. I'm in a console right now with no gui
[06:33] <Cryonisis> Scunizi: Is there a partition manager on the live cd? if so, how to I use it/access it's interface/command list?
[06:33] <Scunizi> Cryonisis: system/admin/partiton editor
[06:33] <robert00> hmw  README http://pastebin.com/d7a173d4f INSTALL http://pastebin.com/d383fcd66
[06:33] <hmw> krammer_: press ALT-F2 and type xkill. then click the window, you want to kill
[06:33] <lstarnes> mopoyo: which version of ubuntu is it?
[06:33] <mopoyo> lstarnes, 8.10
[06:34] <mopoyo> i just did an apt-get update and updated all my progs!! now it won't load my kubuntu session
[06:34] <krammer_> still there
[06:34] <legato-bluessome> hi
[06:34] <legato-bluessome> hola
[06:34] <kaiser105> hi, everyone!
[06:34] <legato-bluessome> speak spanish
[06:34] <jakedp> krammer the cursor changed to an X?
[06:34] <lstarnes> mopoyo: apt-get update won't update anything but the package database.  to actually upgrade the packages, use apt-get upgrade
[06:34] <krammer_> yes
[06:35] <hmw> robert00: the readme says: "just do >>make<< and then >>make install<<". You just issued "make", as you said. Now try "make install" to get the newly created stuff moved to its right location on your file system.
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> ok
[06:35] <dsmith_> !info mono
[06:35] <lstarnes> !es | legato-bluessome
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> una pregunta simple
[06:35] <jakedp> strange xkill has never not killed an x app on me
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> ok
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> Scunizi, ah, found it....
[06:35] <legato-bluessome> thank's
[06:35] <hmw> jakedp: it just happened here, too. Had to do it a second time to get the terminal killed... strange
[06:35] <krammer_> usually forcequit takes care it
[06:35] <Scunizi> Geoffrey2: just takes some searching..
[06:35] <mopoyo> lstarnes,  i went into aptitude or watever!! and upgraded everything
[06:36] <Cryonisis> hmw: according to windows the disc is a 186gb HDD with 40gb free space. the remainder is taken up with a windows non system partition that has some games on it.
[06:36] <krammer_> i just reboot thanks
[06:36] <jakedp> krammer open a terminal and type top and look for k3b, it will have a number on the far left and press k and return then the number and return then 9 and return
[06:36] <hmw> Cryonisis: it is a normal IDE or SATA drive?
[06:36] <legato-bluessome> #kubuntu-es
[06:36] <krammer_> pk
[06:36] <robert00> hmw  make install http://pastebin.com/d522624a
[06:37] <mopoyo> how do i start kde!!!!!!!!!!
[06:37] <leo> hi i have onboard ati hd3300 graphics, by using fglrx driver provided by ubuntu 9.04 beta, my sys is not stable.... can i use the driver provided by amd on their website ?
[06:37] <Cryonisis> hmw: just confirmed it, 200gb Seagate SATA HDD
[06:38] <krammer_> jakedp, k3b is not showing
[06:38] <leo> hi i have onboard ati hd3300 graphics, by using fglrx driver provided by ubuntu 9.04 beta, my sys is not stable.... can i use the driver provided by amd on their website ?
[06:38] <kaiser105> anybody know the key combination to see the cube with compiz activated ?
[06:38] <Scunizi> leo /join #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 assistance thanks
[06:38] <jakedp> k then try ps -aux | grep k3b in a terminal, note number then kill -9 and the number
[06:39] <hmw> robert00: if you look into that output, you will see "permission denied". I am not confident about what I suggest now: Do it as root (sudo make install), but only, if you wouldnt mind messing up your system. If your system is important, seek help elsewhere (e.g. at the website of the programmers, mailing list or such)
[06:39] <lstarnes> mopoyo: if you're using kubuntu, it should normally work when logging normally
[06:39] <jakedp> the 9 means kill right away
[06:39] <mopoyo> lstarnes, an error message popped up and now im on gnome!!
[06:39] <lstarnes> mopoyo: what was the error?
[06:39] <leo> thanks
[06:39] <mopoyo> i don't remember :<
[06:40] <jakedp> anybody remember the text based xserver utility xorgconfig? was wondering if it got renamed or dleeted in ubuntu 8.10
[06:40] <robert00> hmw  u mean i can broke my system?
[06:41] <hmw> robert00: anything you do as root is potentially putting your system at risk. As you are trying to install a kernel module, i think, it should be ok and even neccecary to do it as root. But I am not 100% sure. Chances of real damaging your sys are low in my opinion.
[06:41] <jakedp> and why does ubuntu have no decent x resolution config gui?
[06:41] <jakedp> or xorgconfig, very miffed about this
[06:42] <hmw> jakedp: because everybody keeps complaining about this fact instead of writing a better one. Welcome to the Free Open Source World *g*
[06:42] <mopoyo> HELP
[06:42] <Scunizi> jakedp: the x subsystem has been changed in the last release or so to randr.. xrandr helps configure but it's cli
[06:42] <Cryonisis> could my problem be caused by one of the other 2 HDD's i have in the machine? (1 x 240gb IDE and 1 x 160gb SATA which is the system drive)
[06:42] <robert00> hmw  i did with sudo and start copying and that but then say go out from directory /home/carlos/Descargas/v4l-dvb-dba0b6fae413/v4l
[06:42] <jakedp> xorgconfig is part of standard x distro why is it not in ubuntu?
[06:43] <jakedp> oh thanks Scunizi
[06:43] <hmw> Cryonisis: i doubt that. The sector size is defined, when the drive is formatted. If i am not mistaken, sector size is global for all partitions on that disk. Some strange program must have decided to use such small sectors. I am puzzled.
[06:43] <hmw> robert00: pls rephrase that
[06:43] <widad> tukkkkkkkkkkkyyyyy
[06:44] <hmw> Cryonisis: maybe you can delete the partition with gparted and creat it anew.
[06:44] <SunnyDP> how come the ubuntu updates downloads both linux-headers and linux-headers generic?
[06:44] <jakedp> *throws hands in air* why why can i not have my xorgconfig, i spent the time writing x*.config by hand why punish me?
[06:44] <mopoyo> lstarnes, the error message:
[06:44] <mopoyo> FUCK
[06:44] <tsimpson> SunnyDP: those are called meta-packages
[06:44] <mopoyo> i can't copy and paste
[06:44] <tsimpson> !language | mopoyo
[06:44] <Scunizi> jakedp: what kind of card do you have?
[06:44] <lstarnes> SunnyDP: linux-headers is a dummy package that automatically depends on the newest headers
[06:45] <mopoyo> it said something about not being able to find the KDE session
[06:45] <hmw> robert00: i didnt understand your last message
[06:45] <jakedp> sis integrated
[06:45] <tsimpson> SunnyDP: linux-headers depends on linux-headers-generic, which in turn depends on the latest headers for the kernel
[06:45] <PF> I'm a PC
[06:45] <Cryonisis> hmw: how do I do that? all i know is that i booted off the disc and got a menu with a few options and dont think a partition manager was one of them. there was one to check memery and the install disc and 3 others i think
[06:45] <jakedp> stuck at 1024x768 rs on a 17" CRT
[06:45] <Scunizi> jakedp: sis is a pain.. I'll see if there is a link for you
[06:45] <Scunizi> !sis | jakedp
[06:45] <PF> hehehe, that commerical killZ me
[06:45] <Scunizi> !resolution | jakedp
[06:46] <Scunizi> jakedp: you can still mess with xorg.conf.. it's there at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:46] <ubuntu21> I was hoping someone could walk me through a crosscompilation setup. I am looking to build an arm toolchain, can I get some help with this? Thanks!
[06:46] <SunnyDP> tsimpson: ok, so when updating the kernel manually from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29/ what files will i need to download ?
[06:46] <jakedp> don' t work tried that, my dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver does not bring the dialogue to change resolutions
[06:47] <robert00> hmw  ihttp://pastebin.com/d5b60c317
[06:47] <hmw> Cryonisis: when the install program asks you on how to partition, select "custom" (or similar. meaning "manual", "for experts"). You will get a screen that allows you to delete and create partitions. Delete it, create it again, make sure you select "format" and assign "ext3" and mount point "/"
[06:47] <Scunizi> jakedp: I mean manually entering what's needed.. check the link and also google for "sis ubuntu".. I'm sure that ubuntuforums.org has info too
[06:47] <robert00> la linda
[06:47] <SunnyDP> By the way, looks like v2.6.30-rc1/09-Apr-2009 01:40    finally made it to ubuntu stable
[06:48] <jakedp> was hoping to avoid xorg.conf don' t like writing them by hand no more, novelty wore off
[06:48] <ubuntu21> Any help on building an arm toolchain?
[06:48] <Scunizi> jakedp: it's usually just a couple of tweeks..
[06:48] <hmw> robert00: "se sale del directorio" means "leave the directory", or what does it say? It looks like it worked, and tried to delete the dir, but you were blocking it, since you were still in that dir.
[06:49] <jakedp> thanks for help folks
[06:49] <hmw> robert00: maybe its now time to try using that software. At least, i didnt see an ERROR
[06:49] <mopoyo> SOMEONE PLZ
[06:49] <Cryonisis> hmw: it doesn't ask me to partition. I select install, it asks my language, then my location, then it detects my network, then asks for a computer name and then after that it start to detect the partitions and that is when it pops up with the message. do i need to change one of the settings with the F2 - F6 keys before starting the install?
[06:49] <tsimpson> SunnyDP: if you just want the kernel, then linux-image-2.6.29-020629-generic_2.6.29-020629_<arch>.deb
[06:50] <SunnyDP> tsimpson: thanks
[06:50] <tsimpson> you only need the headers if you want to compile modules for the kernel
[06:50] <robert00> hmw  yes leave directory i think is an error, well thats not an error?
[06:51] <hmw> Cryonisis: i dont know. maybe SOMEONE ELSE IN THIS CHANNEL can help you with this... never had a hd with 2KB sectors. You could delete the complete hard drive and format it normally, but i wouldnt even know, how you should do that
[06:51] <colton_> I've forgotten my system's password, how do I reset it?
[06:51] <hmw> robert00: it would say ERROR: ... if it was an error, usually.
[06:51] <_Brun0_> Just installed ubuntu 8.10 alternative in command-line. Then I apt-get xorg icewm. I can start IceWM with "startx" but I get no mouse or keyboard. How can I make ubuntu recognize my mouse/keyboard?
[06:52] <mopoyo> this is the error message i'm getting
[06:52] <tsimpson> colton_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[06:52] <mopoyo> /usr/bin/startkde not found
[06:52] <colton_> danke
[06:53] <_Brun0_> whats the command to check what is mounted in my usb? like the mouse? what do I need to use usb mouse in ubuntu?
[06:53] <hmw> _Brun0_ lsusb
[06:53] <mopoyo> /usr/bin/startkde not found
[06:53] <ubuntu21> Looking to build an arm toolchain, can I get help?
[06:53] <mopoyo> /usr/bin/startkde not found
[06:53] <mopoyo> lstarnes,
[06:53] <FloodBot2> mopoyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <_Brun0_> hmw: is there a way that i can put this chat to background and try that? i'm in commandline
[06:54] <lstarnes> mopoyo: this may be a long shot, but try running sudo apt-get reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <mopoyo> invalid operation reinstall
[06:54] <hmw> ubuntu21: maybe the linuxfromscratch.org people can help you (they have their own IRC). Some of them use ARMs...
[06:54] <lstarnes> mopoyo: oops. replace apt-get with aptitude in that command
[06:55] <hmw> _Brun0_ if youre on the console (no graphics), you can use ALT-F1, ALT-F2... ALT-F6 to switch to different consoles. If youre in a terminal _window_, just press SHIFT-CTRL-T
[06:55] <_Brun0_> hmw: is there a way to put this x ir client (weechat) to background then restore it? (like alt+tab but in x)
[06:56] <lstarnes> _Brun0_: you could try screen
[06:56] <mattgyver83> I changed the mount point of a device and now when i try to mount it i recieve: Cannot Mount volume, is there a way that i can change the mountpoint back to a null value?
[06:56] <_Brun0_> hmw: i'm in console.. i have no working wm yet. i want to setup icewm.. but it cant recognize keybaord or mouse.. 1 sec i'll try the lsusb command
[06:56] <hmw> _Brun0_ i dont know. But this will do: press CTRL-ALT-F1 to leave the x window system. log in, try it and then use CTRL-ALT-F7 to go back
[06:56] <mopoyo> lstarnes, now KDE isn't even in the session list!
[06:57] <lstarnes> mopoyo: that's very odd.  I don't think I've ever heard of this happening before
[06:58] <alexbobp> Are there any documented procedures for installing ubuntu in a chroot?
[06:58] <_Brun0_> hmw: good news! lsusb shows a line with: Microsoft Basic Optiocal Mouse (thats my mouse). Any hint on how to setup it with xorg? Mouse is not working in IceWM.
[06:58] <Wavesonics> thanks all!
[06:59] <hmw> _Brun0_ i know to little about X. please ask someone else or google.
[06:59] <fogus> is there a remote desktop for ubutnu that works with the efficiency of windows remote desktop protocol?  I have yet to see something like VNC compete with terminal services in terms of speed, but I'm willing to give anything a go.
[06:59] <gopogo> any idea how to set mac based acces in  wgr 614
[06:59] <mopoyo> man?!!!!!!!1
[06:59] <mopoyo> how do i reinstall ubuntu from the very beginnign~!!!!!
[06:59] <_Brun0_> hmw: dunno why but I did CTRL+ALT+F3 then i started icewm from there and mouse worked! WOOOHOOOOO! ty for your attention.
[06:59] <mopoyo> lstarnes,  i'm going to kill you
[07:00] <lstarnes> mopoyo: I didn't do anything
[07:00] <mopoyo> say that again
[07:00] <_Brun0_> hmw: brb with icewm+xchat =P
[07:00] <mopoyo> i dare u
[07:00]  * mopoyo rams lstarnes against the wall
[07:00] <kop> mopoyo, better to blame it on the evil penguins
[07:00] <hmw> _Brun0_ hmm... would be cool to find out, what happened. maybe it was just a delay. i had delays after plugging in usb mice, too.
[07:01] <mopoyo> windows is so much better than linux
[07:01] <kop> mopoyo, name on way
[07:01] <lstarnes> mopoyo: then you may go back to it.  The issue you had rarely happens
[07:01] <fogus> mopoyo: what's your gripe?
[07:01] <alexbobp> why has mopoyo not been banned yet XD
[07:01] <alexbobp> well anyways I found a page on my issue, thanks #ubuntu
[07:02] <hmw> mopoyo: why are you using linux, then?
[07:02] <mopoyo> my uni is forcing me
[07:02] <hmw> mopoyo: see, linux is a box of lego bricks. You can do many creative things with it. Windows is more like the porsche, but it will always have the same color. Do you want to drive fast or to try new things?
[07:03] <hmw> mopoyo: dont complain about a lego car to be slower than a porsche.
[07:03] <mattgyver83> i just changed the mount point to my usb storage, i think it has a space it in, either case i cant mount it now, is there a way to fix the mount point?
[07:03] <fogus> hmw: I hope you aren't serious
[07:03] <mopoyo> hmw, linux has too many problems
[07:03] <bazhang> mopoyo, stop
[07:04] <kop> mopoyo, I have yet to encounter a I386 that ubuntu will not install on eventually and only one amd64 that gave problems
[07:04] <fogus> kop: mopoyo is not worried about installing it
[07:04] <fogus> at least that's what I'm getting out of this
[07:04] <hmw> fogus mopoyo: it was a metaphor of course. My XP is twice as fast as jaunty. I love linux, because its WAY MORE secure than windows. My xp crashes less often. My Xp doesnt let me work as efficiently as linux. It all depends on what you want to do.
[07:05] <kop> bazhang, there is the entertainment value even though it's quickly waning
[07:05] <lalillo> hmw im robert00 i start my system with the card plugged in and say is not any dec¿vice i  unplugged and my system freeze and now is more time to load it how can i do? uninstall or what
[07:06] <_Brun0_> hmw, I'm in xchat under icewm! Its a fresh ubuntu alternate install.  Thanks for your attenion.
[07:06] <hmw> lalillo: hmm... uninstalling is _sometimes_ possible with make. ask make, what it can do: make --help
[07:06] <hmw> _Brun0_ youre welcome
[07:06] <mopoyo> guys... how do i reinstall ubuntu! i just want to start over!!!!11
[07:07] <_Brun0_> is there any chance that lsusb "activated" my usb mouse?
[07:07] <hmw> _Brun0_ i doubt it, but i dont know
[07:07] <_Brun0_> hmw, hmm
[07:07] <fogus> hmw: in what way is linux more secure than xp?
[07:07] <lalillo> hmw well first ill wait i have now 167 new updates since i install drivers
[07:07] <hmw> fogus: afaik, there are only 2 viruses for linux
[07:07] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, don't rush.. backup your data first, specially in /home/_username_/
[07:08] <hmw> fogus: its almost impossible to get trojans and spyware with linux (at least compared to windows)
[07:08] <kop> while I'm here ~ nvidia has me stuck at 640x480 with any driver is this the right place to ask for help or ...
[07:08] <_Brun0_> fogus, linux don't have virus
[07:08] <mopoyo> oops nearly forgot all my assignments are on here! thx _Brun0_
[07:08] <clarence> How to protect our data when it's transfer
[07:08] <_Brun0_> fogus, linux have true native file permissions
[07:08] <fogus> hmw: is it more secure because it is attacked by fewer viruses?
[07:09] <kop> fogus, that is closer to the truth
[07:09] <hmw> fogus: 1) fewer people use linux, therefore virus programmers dont focus on it so much. 2) linux is constructed in a way, that makes it VERY difficult to write a working virus
[07:10] <mopoyo> ok! so how do i reinstall ubuntu?!
[07:10] <fogus> hmw: then my home is more secure than an armed US patrol.  bad measure of security
[07:10] <kop> haw rootkits and browser jacks are another story
[07:10] <hmw> fogus: replace VERY with VERY VERY VERY (= almost IMPOSSIBLE)
[07:10] <_Brun0_> yea hmw is right. and linux distro varies alot so viruses cannot infect "linux" at all.
[07:11] <bazhang> lets take security talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:11] <mopoyo> STOP IGNORING ME
[07:11] <bazhang> mopoyo, lose the caps
[07:11] <clarence> mopoyo: restart the computer an boot from cd
[07:11] <mopoyo> it's cool how you reply when i type in caps but not when i ask a question
[07:12] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, when you talk to someone, put their name in the message... preferably in the beginning of it so the person can know who you're talking to.
[07:12] <bazhang> mopoyo, back up files; boot from installer (live cd)
[07:12] <fogus> mopoyo: what course are you taking with your university that it forces you to use linux as a main OS and not a virtual machine?
[07:12] <g4lt-lappy> did mopoyo say something?  I was ignoring them
[07:12] <lstarnes> g4lt-lappy: that kind of behavior is not constructive
[07:12] <kop> g4lt-lappy, who ?
[07:13] <mopoyo> what's a virtual machine?
[07:13] <Gnea> mopoyo: reinstall ubuntu the same way you installed it: pop the cd in, boot it up, click a lot
[07:13] <bazhang> fogus, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:13] <mopoyo> i just have to learn how to use linux.. that's all so i can use the cse machines at uni
[07:13] <bazhang> !vm > mopoyo
[07:13] <g4lt-lappy> lstarnes, and somehow mopoyo's is?
[07:13] <Aval0n> does ubuntu 8.10 run a firewall by default?
[07:13] <Gnea> mopoyo: like vmware or virtualbox - it's basically a computer that runs inside of your computer
[07:13] <lstarnes> g4lt-lappy: two wrongs don't make a right
[07:13] <clarence> In Linux, how to protect our data when it's transfer?
[07:13] <hmw> fogus: this channel is very busy. We should try reduce unneeded chat here. Lets talk in offtopic
[07:13] <Gnea> Aval0n: no, but it comes with firewall software
[07:14] <Aval0n> k
[07:14] <Aval0n> ty
[07:14] <lstarnes> Aval0n: it runs iptables and ufw.  By default I think they have no rules set
[07:14] <_Brun0_> Aval0n, no. mine is off. You can check the message about it at boot (or shutdown, cant remember)
[07:14] <g4lt-lappy> lstarnes, when you actually handle the first wrong, talk to me
[07:14] <Aval0n> thnx
[07:14] <Gnea> !firewall | Aval0n
[07:14] <lstarnes> clarence: it depends on the method of transfer
[07:14] <fogus> mopoyo: meet me in offtopic. hmw, understood.
[07:14] <Aval0n> I"m trying to get eggdrop to run
[07:14] <Aval0n> but it never connects
[07:14] <Aval0n> I have the config done right
[07:15] <Aval0n> but it never shows in netstat
[07:15] <mopoyo> ok i'm going to boot into my live cd
[07:15] <Gnea> Aval0n: might want to check in #eggdrop
[07:15] <Aval0n> not sure what the heck the issue is now
[07:15] <clarence> method of transfer
[07:15] <Aval0n> gnea: did
[07:15] <Aval0n> they have been idle for ever
[07:15] <Aval0n> :)
[07:15] <clarence> method of transfer?'
[07:15] <Gnea> heh
[07:15] <mopoyo> thx for ur help guys
[07:15] <lstarnes> clarence: the way in thich the data is being transferred
[07:16] <Gnea> Aval0n: well, it's basically an unattended irc client, so as long as your config file is setup right, it should connect... iirc, you can set the debuggin rate to spew a lot of informative messages to help you troubleshoot the problems
[07:16] <Gnea> *debugging
[07:16] <clarence> lstarnes: thanks
[07:17] <lstarnes> clarence: different ways require different protection
[07:17] <clarence> I see
[07:17] <Aval0n> yeah
[07:17] <Aval0n> not sure why it never connects
[07:18] <clarence> I think irssi is more convinience than pidgin
[07:19] <clarence> what means?
[07:20] <g4lt-lappy> clarence, pidgin is a catch-all proram, irssi is IRC specific
[07:20] <tomcyl> hi, all
[07:21] <tomcyl> anyone know how do i  get my RAR file password?
[07:21] <clarence> crack it
[07:21] <tomcyl> software?
[07:21] <clarence> yes
[07:21] <SunnyDP> tomcyl: you are lucky , a new rar cracker just came out
[07:21] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, nontrivially.  best way is to get it from who rar'd it in the first place
[07:21] <tomcyl> which?
[07:22] <SunnyDP> tomcyl: go check on forge
[07:22] <xipi> hi
[07:22] <xipi> i need to backup my system
[07:22] <xipi> would tar cf be ok?
[07:23] <SunnyDP> tomcyl: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-crack-rar-7z-and-zip-files-with.html
[07:23] <SunnyDP> xipi: what is "cf" for ?
[07:24] <clarence> tomcyl: crack rar password, you can use advanced rar password recovery
[07:24] <Nom-> Hey Guys... this might be a bit off topic, but I was wondering if anyone has a script handy which will create an rrd graph for a gigabit network card?  I've got one which I think is configured for 100Mbps, but it seems to be dropping the data beause there's so much data going out
[07:24] <sliverchair> can I disable the audio port at the back of my pc? Alsa Mixer can disable the head phone w/c is at at the Front Panel audio port
[07:24] <xipi> SunnyDP: i thought for archive creation. am i mistaken?
[07:25] <quantum> hi there
[07:25] <tomcyl> use advanced rar password recovery takes too long
[07:25] <tomcyl> rarcrack ok?
[07:25] <SunnyDP> xipi: not sure myself, that's why i asked
[07:25] <quantum> n kubuntu 8.10 what utility can I use to view system information about hardware
[07:25] <quantum> ?
[07:25] <clarence> yes
[07:25] <clarence> tomcyl: yes
[07:26] <xipi> SunnyDP: it seems, as if i should study a bit more
[07:26] <SunnyDP> xipi: yes :D
[07:26] <tomcyl> fcrackzip or rarcrack?
[07:26] <SunnyDP> xipi: go to www.ryos.org and grab the backup episode
[07:26] <clarence> advanced rar password recovery, rar crack
[07:27] <nascentmind> hi is there any application to check cpu temperatures in kde?
[07:27] <clarence> tomcyl: advanced rar password recovery, rar crack
[07:28] <naguri> can't install the testdisk-6.10
 advanced rar password recovery? where i can get it?
[07:28] <naguri> can't install the testdisk-6.10
[07:29] <xipi> SunnyDP: Thank you. I will have a look
[07:29] <ManateeLazyCat> Why program "notify-send" can't work in Ubuntu 8.10? It can work in Debian.
[07:29] <clarence> tomcyl: go to google, and type advanced rar password recovery
[07:29] <holyguyver> How do you in the cammandline restart pulseaudio?
[07:30] <ziroday> holyguyver: pulseaudio -k and then pulseaudio -D
[07:30] <holyguyver> Thank you
[07:30] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: what about it doesn't work?
[07:30] <ManateeLazyCat> When i use "notify-send" send string, and nothing to popup. Is a bug?
[07:30] <yasasvy> nascentmind: ktemperature
[07:30] <tomcyl> clarence , that it for windows,  takes too long to crack
[07:30] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: "notify-send" can't popup window
[07:31] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: is it installed? ...
[07:31] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: It can't popup, but can popup window in Debian. I don't know why? You can make "notify-send" popup window.
[07:31] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Of course
[07:31] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: libnotify-bin
[07:31] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: is notification-daemon installed?
[07:32] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: if so, is that process running?
[07:32] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Yep
[07:32] <clarence> tomcyl: maybe  your password is very difficult to crack
[07:32] <tomcyl> maybe
[07:33] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: What do you mean with "is that process running"? "notify-send" just work when notification-daemon running?
[07:34] <tomcyl> g4lt-lappy, what you mean by "best way is to get it from who rar'd it in the first place" ?
[07:34] <nascentmind> yasasvy, my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty. why is that?
[07:34] <clarence> tomcyl: you have a last way to solve this problem
[07:34] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: dbus is supposed to spawn it
[07:34] <tomcyl> what is ?
[07:35] <clarence> tomcyl: take the file to winxp
[07:35] <clarence> tomcyl: and download the advanced rar password recovery
[07:35] <g4lt-lappy> tomaw, meaning that the password isn there to prevent unauthorized access.  if you don't know th e password, by definition, you're unauthorized.  if you rar'd it yourself, my suggestion is to use a decent compression like bzip or gzip
[07:35] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, ^^^^^
[07:35] <tomcyl> i did try
[07:36] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Simple, can you give me all the steps that make "notify-send" work in Ubuntu 8.10, i install Ubuntu use alternative CD, need others configure? Thanks
[07:36] <clarence> be paitient
[07:36] <clarence> be patient
[07:37] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it works out of the box, so we have to figure out why it's not working
[07:37] <crdlb> there are no "steps"
[07:37] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: In Debian, just install "libnotify-send", everything is okay, i don't know why Ubuntu can't
[07:37] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: do you get any errors from notify-send "foo" in a terminal, if so, pastebin it
[07:37] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Nothing
[07:38] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: have you checked if notification-daemon is running?
[07:39] <testABC44> I setup a mobile connection in network manager for my ATT card... how do I tell it to connect?
[07:39] <tomcyl> thanks <g4lt-lappy> i will try
[07:40] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I haven't process running that name is notification-daemon even i have install it.
[07:40] <ziroday> testABC44: try go on the internet?
[07:40] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, click on the nm-applet in the upper right, select the ATT connection from the dropdown
[07:40] <testABC44> hmmm
[07:40] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: then run /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon in a terminal
[07:41] <taz_> hi...  i would like to know which one  best webcam ?/
[07:41] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy:  there is no att in teh dropdown.. but there is when I go to edit connections
[07:41] <Nytrix> how do i upgrade my openoffice to 3.0?
[07:42] <crdlb> !ooo > Nytrix
[07:43] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy: ???
[07:43] <tsLight> how can I know how long I have been connected to the internet (DSL)?
[07:44] <clarence> tomcyl: go to http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/06/how-to-recover-rar-7z-and-zip-password-with-rarcrack-in-linux/
[07:44] <tomcyl> k
[07:44] <clarence> taz_: and support linux?
[07:44] <tomcyl> k
[07:44] <clarence> tomcyl:?
[07:45] <tomcyl> i going to
[07:45] <Marius> hi
[07:45] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I did it, still can't work
[07:45] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, try left-clinck.  "edit connections" is in the right-click menu
[07:45] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it didn't error out?
[07:45] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Have a process running that named "notification-da"
[07:46] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Yep, nothing
[07:46] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: pastebin the output of 'dpkg -L notification-daemon'
[07:46] <taz_> clearence: yes support linux
[07:46] <a81u64_usr> does ubuntu support ms-dos flopps?
[07:46] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy:  I did the edit and added the ATT under the mobile connections.. however there does not seem to be a place to actually tell it to connect....
[07:46] <clarence> taz_: google best webcam
[07:47] <taz_> clearence:  what model and name of webcam?
[07:47] <clarence> a81u64_usr: yes
[07:47]  * ManateeLazyCat pasted "dpkg -L notification-daemon" at http://paste2.org/get/181301
[07:47] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, not from the right-click menu, no.  try standard, or left-click
[07:47] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: See  above
[07:47] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me mount my CD/DVD drive
[07:47] <Marius> a81u64_usr i guess you just need to mount the floppy drive somewhere
[07:48] <clarence>  taz_:  google linux webcam
[07:48] <tomcyl> what is it mean? "  fcrackzip -v -b -p aaaa -u cuda_dxtc.pdf.zip
[07:48] <tomcyl> found file 'cuda_dxtc.pdf', (size cp/uc 244965/294438, flags 9, chk a5d3)
[07:48] <tomcyl> checking pw rUt~ "???
[07:48] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me mount my CD/DVD drive
[07:48] <a81u64_usr> mount says mount point does not exist.
[07:48] <testABC44> g4lt-lappy:  left click shows the wireless netowrks in the area.. but not the ATT that I added
[07:48] <g4lt-lappy> tomaw, pdf files aren't rar
[07:49] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: is this a gnome desktop?
[07:49] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Yes, in GNOME
[07:49] <clarence> taz_: go to http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html
[07:49] <testABC441> g4lt-lappy:  oops.. did I miss wha tyou said?
[07:49] <g4lt-lappy> testABC44, it has headers, wired, wireless, mobile.  if it isn't in the mobile part, you still have soemthing wrong
[07:49] <a81u64_usr> fstab does nothing
[07:50] <tsLight> how can I know how long I have been connected to the internet (DSL)?
[07:50] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, pdf files have very little to do with rar
[07:50] <Aval0n> ubuntu 8.10 doesnt have anything setup to limit background processes does it?
[07:50] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: does 'echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS' give some long string containing unix:abstract?
 what you mean, i cannot crack RAR file?
[07:51] <g4lt-lappy> tsai1, you can see when you connected from /var/oog/daemon.log, then do math?
[07:51] <clarence>  tomcyl: doid you  found the way  to solve?
[07:51] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, a pdf file isn't a rar file
[07:51] <clarence>  tomcyl:in that site?
[07:51] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-uCqHg3UD4p,guid=63a3353c694b3ab0bb4da8bd49de88b3
[07:51] <ManateeLazyCat>
[07:51] <g4lt-lappy> clarence, did you actually look at what he said?  turns out he's not even looking at a rar file
[07:52] <a81u64_usr> is there anything i can do??
[07:52] <clarence> oh sorry
[07:53] <tomcyl> i am trying crack rar make by myself
[07:53] <ArmyKid92> woot
[07:53] <g4lt-lappy> tomaw, what is the filename you're trying to unrar?
[07:53] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, ^^^
[07:54] <tomcyl> i try diffrent software
[07:54] <tomcyl> tompic.rar
[07:54] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, ahh, and hte contents are the pdf file?  ahh
[07:54] <ArmyKid92> okay, so is there a way to get the interface of a Mac on Ubuntu? i looked it up on google and didnt get a clear answer.. =/
[07:54] <ziroday> ArmyKid92: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin
[07:55] <_Brun0_> How can I know which clipboard daemon i'm running? Here is ubuntu 8.10 alternat command-line install with IceWM.
[07:55] <tomcyl> i dont think contents are the pdf
[07:55] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: I have no idea what's wrong; do you get any notifications? eg from a music player on song change
[07:55] <clearscreen> is there any way to open gnome-terminal in the center of my screen by default?
[07:56] <ArmyKid92> ziroday, thanks.
[07:56] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I'm not install music player, and this problem looks so strange
[07:57] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, that's what your rarcrack output implied
[07:57] <tomcyl> all photos
[07:58] <fore> .
[07:58] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: It can works in your computer?
[07:58] <mopoyo> OK I reinstalled ubuntu
[07:59] <_Brun0_> How can I know which clipboard app/daemon i'm running? It's not gnome's one.
[07:59] <tomcyl> fcrackzip always tells me i  "No such file or directory
[07:59] <tomcyl> Segmentation fault
[07:59] <tomcyl> "
[07:59] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, nice
[07:59] <g4lt-lappy> tomcyl, my next question is why in the name of all that's holy did you use rar of all things?  especially if you're prone to forgetting passwords.  rar is the least useful option in that case
[07:59] <mopoyo> argh
[07:59] <mopoyo> how can i make xchat remember the window size
[08:00] <Neremor> hello!
[08:01] <clarence>  Neremor: hi
[08:01] <_Brun0_> mopoyo, just tested and xchat auto rememebrs window pos.. mine is axmized anyway.
[08:01] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it works for everyone else, run: dbus-monitor --profile 'interface=org.freedesktop.Notifications'
[08:02] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: you should see a line printed when you use notify-send message in another terminal
[08:02] <Neremor> I'm searching for an application to manage my music library. I don't need a media player, for that I'm using songbird. What i need is an application that automatically sorts my music for artists, albums, tracks and singles with a pattern given by me... Something like itunes does... Does anyone know something like this? Thank you in advance :)
 thanks,
[08:02] <g4lt-lappy> Neremor, I've had good luck with cowbell
[08:03] <a81u64_usr> whats going on in this channel??
[08:03] <clearscreen> !ubuntu | a81u64_usr
[08:04] <slashdotfx> anyone has a clue how to disable ipv6 support in 9.04?
[08:04] <slashdotfx> i've tried the wiki, but it's not working
[08:04] <clarence> Installed on(in) linux = open source software ?
[08:04] <Neremor> it looks nive, i will give it a try, g4lt-lappy!
[08:04] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Still nothing, i don't know why. I create a new user fot test, to check whether some configre break it.
[08:05] <clearscreen> clarence: what?
[08:05] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: nothing was printed in the dbus-monitor terminal?
[08:06] <g4lt-lappy> slashdotfx, should just be some ifconfig magic, I think the v6 stack is builtin to the kernel though, so dumping the stack will be problematic
[08:06] <clarence> clearscreen: installed on linux software must be open source ?
[08:06] <mne> Hi. I have a thinkpad x61 with ubuntu intrepid on it. I also have an internal bluetooth adapter which is attached over the USB bus. However, using "lsusb" it does not show up anymore which is also the reason why I can't use bluetooth at the moment. Does anyone else have a problem like that ?
[08:06] <and_> sweet! is this a support channel?
[08:06] <clearscreen> clarence: not neccessarily, although most software on linux -is- open source
[08:07] <mopoyo> One thing about ubuntu... If you want to reinstall a program you have to redownload it!... Why can't I just save it somewhere and reinstall?
[08:07] <shux> Hello again :)
[08:07] <shux> I have a codec question please
[08:07] <slashdotfx> g4lt-lappy: is the same issues with ipv6 in slow browsing resolved in jaunty?
[08:07] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: When i run "dbus-monitor mprofile 'interface=org.freedesktop.Notifications'", i got error: "Failed to setup match "mprofile": Match rule has a key with no subsequent '=' character"
[08:07] <g4lt-lappy> slashdotfx, jaunty is #ubuntu+1 still
[08:08] <mopoyo> ubuntu is too internet dependent!!!
[08:08] <crdlb> ManateeLazyCat: it's --profile, not mprofile
[08:08] <clearscreen> mopoyo: you can save a .deb file perfectly fine, also, aptitude stores downloaded packages in a cache... can you be more specific?
[08:08] <g4lt-lappy> will be thorugh most of this month
[08:08] <TechHead> morning
[08:08] <mopoyo> clearscreen, for example i just installed vlc... and i have to reinstall all these packages........
[08:08] <mopoyo> altogether it's around 75MB
[08:09] <clarence> clearscreen: because lots of people think installed software are open source,  so install software must be open source
[08:09] <shux> I'm fumbling in the dark here...but here goes anyway
[08:09] <mopoyo> clearscreen, I'm not going to save every .deb file...
[08:09] <shux> I d/loaded a codec package of sorts
[08:09] <clearscreen> clarence: no clue what you're saying... most software is indeed open-source, but it is entirely possibled to install closed-source software
[08:09] <shux> essential-20071007.tar.bz2
[08:10] <shux> i gzipped it
[08:10] <BiosElement> mopoyo, I don't mean to ask a stupid question but why do you need vlc to begin with? If you feel it's too much work you could probably just use totem.
[08:10] <and_> can anyone help me mount floppy ?
[08:10] <and_> pretty please?
[08:10] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I create a new user, and test then "notify-send" can work, looks have some configre file make it break.
[08:10] <g4lt-lappy> shubuntu_, with an extensionof .bz2, no, you didn't gzip it, you bzipped it
[08:10] <g4lt-lappy> shux ^^^^^
[08:11] <shux> vlc shows a dvd that Ubuntu 8.10 failed to recognize previously
[08:11] <clearscreen> mopoyo: apt stores previously downloaded packages in cache
[08:11] <shux> but now when I click to play it returns to the desktop?
[08:11] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: Sorry for noise, i will check my HOME directory to find where the problem.
[08:11] <and_> how can i be sure its not a hardware fault, if its not in the file system?
[08:11] <tsLight> what is a .bundle file? I want to download and install VMware Player and there is no .tar.gz download, just rpm and .bundle
[08:11] <clearscreen> mopoyo: and really.. how often do you reinstall software? what is the point?
[08:12] <mopoyo> BiosElement, totem asks me to install codecs
[08:12] <g4lt-lappy> shux if it's a video DVD, of course.  video DVDs, like audio CDs, don' mount
[08:12] <clearscreen> tsLight: you can just execute it with sh
[08:12] <tsLight> clearscreen, ok
[08:12] <mopoyo> clearscreen, where is this cache?
[08:12] <clearscreen> tsLight: chmod +x filename.bundle && sh filename.bundle
[08:13] <Neremor> hm cowbell seems to have a bit less features like i expected... do you know any others?
[08:13] <clearscreen> mopoyo: /var/cache/apt afaik
[08:13] <clarence> do you upgrade ubuntu by update manager?
[08:13] <clearscreen> ./var/cache/apt/archives
[08:13] <tsLight> clearscreen, yeah I knew that :P I just wanted to know what .bundle file is
[08:13] <mopoyo> how long does it get stored there?
[08:14] <clearscreen> not entirely sure, you'd have to look that up
[08:14] <clearscreen> clarence: you can, but there are several ways to upgrade :)
[08:14] <shux> But nothing showed b4...now it does! pure luck on my part I know...but now that I have a gui on the dvd..the program (vlc) closes when I choose the "Play" option...any ideas?
[08:14] <purvesh> any know how 2 know pc mac address in terminal
[08:15] <clearscreen> purvesh: ifconfig
[08:15] <tsLight> is there a way to upgrade from Ubuntu 32 bits to 64 bits without reinstalling everything (or without losing settings and installed applications)? sort of "dist-upgrade" :P
[08:16] <clearscreen> tsLight: is probably possible, but highly discouraged
[08:16] <newbie75> ciao
[08:16] <clarence> clearscreen:  at last time, I was using ubuntu when it upgrade,  at last it was upgrade failed, what happen?
[08:16] <newbie75> !list
[08:16] <clearscreen> clarence: no way to tell without a specific error message
[08:16] <BiosElement> tsLight, I'd recommend you just do a re-install. ？
[08:17] <userli> ／／／／
[08:18] <tsLight> ok
[08:18] <shux> I cp'd from /media/cdrom0 2 my home folder and and chmod'd with u+x in the shell and now the DVD is mysteriously showing up...but exits whenever I try to play it???
[08:18] <and_> can anyone tell my why mount point does not exist?
[08:19] <BonezAU> hi all, I have just created a new ext4 partition, added it to my /etc/fstab and mounted it, but it seems to be writable only by root. What do I need to do in order to have it writable by anyone who uses the system? I have an NTFS partition which allows any user on the system to read/write to it