[00:00] <iceman_> thanks
[00:00] <NickPresta> unagi_, alternately, open up Konqueror and type: man:mencoder
[00:06] <unagi_> my god
[00:06] <unagi_> lole
[00:06] <unagi_> its -mf type=jpg not mf=type=jpg
[00:07] <[ka]killer> hey
[00:07] <[ka]killer> was wondering how i change the default file browser from dolphin back to konquor
[00:07] <tekteen> !dolphin
[00:07] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:08] <[ka]killer> thanks
[00:08] <tekteen> np
[00:08] <FaiDillinGer> does anyone know how can i make the num.lock active at loginscreen ??
[00:08] <mefisto__> FaiDillinGer: system settings> keyboard and mouse
[00:09] <FaiDillinGer> thx mefisto__
[00:11] <FaiDillinGer> does anyone know how can i make the window key pop up the kmenu ??
[00:15] <NickPresta> FaiDillinGer, I forget how to make it accept just the Win key but you can easily bind the KMenu to the Win key plus another key.
[00:16] <flipstar> FaiDillinGer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/panel.html#id2552734
[00:17] <NickPresta> ah, they removed the ability to just set the Win key unless you remap the Win key..
[00:19] <FaiDillinGer> thx
[00:27] <intelikey> is it possable to get an .xpm to execute code ?    splash screen for example ?
[00:35] <intelikey> #kubuntu is dead.     long live #kubuntu!
[00:36] <tekteen> lol
[00:37] <achilles> i forgot the name of a html editing program it completes tags for you anyone know the name? thanks
[00:38] <intelikey> quanta ?
[00:38] <intelikey> i forgot too.
[00:38] <achilles> no it had html something
[00:38] <achilles> but thanks
[00:38] <achilles> the icon was a face of a guy screaming
[00:39] <intelikey> screem ?
[00:39] <achilles> let me check
[00:39] <intelikey> screem - A GNOME website development environment
[00:40] <achilles> yes!!!! thank you much:)
[00:40] <intelikey> welcome.
[00:40] <intelikey> kdevelop3 - An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version    if you like "ide"'s
[00:41] <achilles> thanks ill take a look later;)
[00:45] <achilles> intelikey is kubuntu the same as ubuntu but with kde?
[00:45] <intelikey> yep
[00:45] <achilles> ok:) I was using ubuntu but i could never get my dailup working but with kubuntu i could because of kppp:)
[00:46] <intelikey> interesting.   wvdial should have worked for either install
[00:47] <intelikey> in fact i can get wvdial to work on systems that kppp fails on....
[00:47] <achilles> :O
[00:47] <achilles> it never worked for me:(
[00:47] <intelikey>           some         ^
[00:48] <achilles> for some reason kppp always works for me
[00:48] <bohemio> aluien de chile
[00:48] <intelikey> !cl
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <intelikey> what language is that ?
[00:49] <intelikey> !pr
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <vzduch> !es
[00:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:50] <intelikey> !br
[00:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[00:50] <vzduch> there was a g missing to make 'alguien'
[00:50] <intelikey> ah.
[00:50] <romunov> i'm having problems with my kubuntu. i once put my machine to hybernate, but open restart it never woke up
[00:50] <achilles> oh lol ok :)
[00:50] <achilles> now i understand:)
[00:50] <romunov> i could only login via the command line and startx
[00:51] <romunov> but i don't have shutdown or any other commands now
[00:51] <romunov> i can't switch users either
[00:51] <romunov> other than going to the command promp and switching users
[00:51] <intelikey> romunov kdm messed up again ?
[00:51] <achilles> how do i make firefox my defualt browser ? i dont wont kconqurer:P
[00:52] <Taggnostr> achilles, in the firefox options?
[00:52] <achilles> for the system
[00:52] <draik> I received a RAR file with a password. I have the password, but how do I use it to let me extract the RAR's content?
[00:52] <Taggnostr> there should be a button "make firefox my default browser" or something similar
[00:53] <achilles> ok ill try
[00:53] <intelikey> achilles well you could change the alternative /usr/bin/x-www-browser     ether via the gui  "kcontrol i think"  or the cli update-alternatives i think
[00:53] <intelikey> or edit by hand.   or....    (probably a long list goes here)
[00:54] <flipstar> draik: just use unrar e <filename> you'll be asked later for passwd or for a gui.. use file-roller or similar
[00:54] <draik> flipstar: Thanks
[00:59] <flipstar> bye im out
[00:59] <achilles> thanks everyone bye:)
[01:01] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[01:04] <intelikey> woops what do you do when update-alternatives --all  does this to you http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5fd476ac ???
[01:05] <jereme> unagi_: iphoto? ;)
[01:05] <unagi_> .....?
[01:07] <replman> Hi! I have a problem watching video on my system. Each time i open mythtv, mplayer, ..., X11 crashes, nvidia-screen pops up and then the login of kde is shown. This worked already some weeks ago
[01:08] <Daisuke-Ido> the obvious question is: what's changed between then and now?
[01:08] <Daisuke-Ido> have you perhaps gone to one of the compositing window managers?  are you using kde 3 or 4?
[01:09] <mefisto__> I can't seem to get my login screen resolution to change. it's always 1024x768, but after login it is (sort of) correctly set to 1280x1024, although fonts and icons are too large. If I log out and in again, the login screen is 1280x1024, and after login the fonts and icons are the right size.
[01:09] <replman> I don't know. Each time the kubuntu update-manager shows that an update is available i do the update
[01:09] <replman> maybe some weeks ago x11 was also in the update, but i'm not sure
[01:10] <replman> i use kde3
[01:10] <replman> 3.5.6
[01:10] <FaiDillinGer> yo . i have an external usb drive with an ext3 filesystem on it.  the hardrive is always plugged to the computer. i use as a mount point /media/disk, but when i reboot and browse to /media/disk, no files appear. i have to mount it. how can i make it mounted automaticcaly please ??
[01:10] <Daisuke-Ido> mefisto__: are you using a custom kdm theme?
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> !automount | FaiDillinGer
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !fstab | FaiDillinGer
[01:11] <ubotu> FaiDillinGer: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <intelikey> mefisto__ you may not like my sujestion.  but, try gdm.
[01:11] <intelikey> i'm not a gnome'r but gdm beats kdm hands down  imo
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> replman: other question still up in the air - are you using compiz or beryl?
[01:11] <replman> Daisuke-Ido: no
[01:12] <mefisto__> intelikey: you mean just for login? or give up on kde?
[01:12] <intelikey> just the login
[01:12] <FaiDillinGer> thx Dr_willis but the auto option is already set ??
[01:12] <FaiDillinGer> UUID=86c76468-f081-4e88-a068-8d60c04d96c4 /media/disk auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[01:13] <intelikey> mefisto__ it's as simple to try as   sudo apt-get install gdm      and just as easy to undo.
[01:13] <mefisto__> intelikey: I like that very much actually. I have xfce installed so gdm is there. how do I make gdm the login?
[01:13] <replman> I'm going to try starting a plain X11 without kde (xinit) and try to play something there. I'll be back and reporting
[01:13] <Daisuke-Ido> mefisto__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:13] <intelikey> mefisto__ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:14] <mefisto__> and how do I undo that if it doesn't work out? reconfigure kdm?
[01:14] <intelikey> ok quick draw.  i'll go back to playing with a script kiddy, seeing that i'm not needed here  ;/
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> mefisto__: change gdm to kdm
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> intelikey: nah, i'm actually going to play some dumb games :)
[01:14] <intelikey> no no. it's all yours.
[01:14] <mefisto__> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, right?
[01:15] <intelikey> yes
[01:15] <intelikey> mefisto__ reconfiguring any of the ?dm family will give you the menu to choose which you want to use.
[01:15] <mefisto__> Daisuke-Ido: how would I change themes? do you mean the login theme?
[01:20] <Daisuke-Ido> not entirely sure when it comes to gdm
[01:20] <mefisto__> and for kdm?
[01:20] <WorkingOnWise> does amarok work with there's a theme manager for gdm in the repos
[01:20] <WorkingOnWise> oopsss...
[01:20] <intelikey> hehhe
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise> I mwant......
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise>  there's a theme manager for gdm in the repos
[01:21] <intelikey> i resemble that remark WorkingOnWise
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise> wow....I'm just gona step slowly afk....
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise> :)
[01:21] <intelikey> :)
[01:22] <WorkingOnWise> ties this "windows" keyboard...
[01:22] <WorkingOnWise> it keeps moving the keys on me....
[01:22] <intelikey> you would be surprised how many times i have started to hit [enter] and realized that i had changed topics in the middle of my post...
[01:23] <WorkingOnWise> lol..u too?
[01:23] <intelikey> as i said <intelikey> i resemble that remark WorkingOnWise
[01:23] <WorkingOnWise> lol
[01:23] <draik> Not sure how or why, but all of my GRUB options have been removed. How do I get them back? All I have is Memtest86+
[01:24] <WorkingOnWise> so, i know I have apache something installed...how can I tell if it's 1.x or 2.x?
[01:24] <intelikey> update-grub   maybe ?
[01:24] <draik> intelikey: Where?
[01:24] <intelikey> httpd --version ?
[01:24] <intelikey> guessing.
[01:24] <intelikey> draik cli
[01:24] <draik> I can get a GRUB> command line, but that's it.
[01:24] <mefisto__> I think sudo update-grub will do it
[01:25] <WorkingOnWise> lol...good guess but nope....
[01:25] <intelikey> WorkingOnWise ok.  dpkg -l | grep apache
[01:25] <draik> intelikey: mefisto__: It says "Unrecognized command"
[01:25] <mefisto__> oh, you can't boot without an entry in grub
[01:26] <draik> mefisto__: Right. How do I get it back?
[01:26] <replman>   Hi!
[01:26] <WorkingOnWise> intelikey: or http://localhost:8080  :)
[01:26] <intelikey> draik ah you mean you can't boot.   you need to tell it the root (hd0,0)    kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1    initrd /initrd.img    boot
[01:27] <draik> intelikey: Ok. How?
[01:27] <intelikey> WorkingOnWise that will only display the home page you have installed.  not always the correct page for the server.
[01:28] <intelikey> draik just as i listed them.  ^    1.  root       2. kernel       3. initrd        4. boot     you only need to know the disk address   (hd?,?)   and the root=
[01:29] <intelikey> draik and grub provides tab completion as well
[01:29] <mefisto__> draik: the "e" key lets you edit when you're in the grub menu, so just edit memtest entry, replace with what intelikey said
[01:30] <mefisto__> then update-grub once you've booted properly
[01:30] <intelikey> mefisto__ well what i said was for the grub prompt   but yes that will work too
[01:30] <draik> 10-4
[01:30] <intelikey> mefisto__ i.e.   "c"  rather than "e"
[01:31] <sloop> howdy folks -looking for some help with my brand spanking new kde4 grub file
[01:31] <mefisto__> "c" edits in the grub menu?
[01:31] <intelikey> WorkingOnWise if you change/edit your home page  then it's not updated with apache  iirc.   that's why i mentioned that.  ^
[01:32] <intelikey> mefisto__ no.  "c"  gives you the grub command line.  "grub prompt"
[01:32] <sloop> installed kde4 from the live cd but didnt right to the grub menu ..now i cant boot into that partition
[01:32] <intelikey> mefisto__ from the menu ^  yes.
[01:33] <sloop> I 'e"dit my grub lines but I don't have a clue as to the uuid nonses
[01:33] <intelikey> sloop it's the hour for grub.    fire away
[01:33] <sloop> lol thanks itelikey
[01:33] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[01:33] <intelikey> sloop ok uuid is the file system idintifier.   from the running linux system  you can use  blkid   to list yours.
[01:34] <kadam> On a scale of 1-10, what are the odds that I can dual boot kubuntu on a drive that already has Windows on it?  What if it's a RAID 0 array?
[01:34] <unagi_> kadam its preferred that you have windows on the drive first
[01:34] <draik> intelikey: mefisto__: Nope. It still went to Memtest :(
[01:35] <intelikey> draik then you entered something incorrectly.    keep trying or boot a live CD and fix from there.
[01:35] <mefisto__> sorry draik, listen to intelikey, it should be more straightforward using the grub prompt
[01:35] <replman> I tried it (playing video) without kde (plain xinit) - the same result (X11 crashes). I put the log to http://www.pastebin.org/17821
[01:35] <kadam> unagi_: Ahh, good... Am I in for an ordeal, you think?  Or is installing to a raid array rather straightforward?
[01:35] <sloop> Ah ha! thank you intelikey
[01:35] <draik> SGD to the rescue, I guess
[01:35] <unagi_> lol replmanthat darn signal 11
[01:35] <intelikey> sloop :/
[01:35] <unagi_> replman:
[01:36]  * draik 's day goes from bad to worse :(
[01:36] <unagi_> i dont know anything about raid kadam i just know the best thing to do is install windows first
[01:37] <replman> unagi_: do you know what i can do?
[01:37] <intelikey> draik actually i think everyone should manually boot their system with grub and lilo   at least one time each.   that way you are never afraid of the boot loader again.    but i will admit it is formitable when first incountered.
[01:37] <unagi_> lol no replman i just know that maya use to give me signal 11 (unknown signal) when i used the graph editor and it sucked
[01:38] <replman> That's very annoying. When i browse to a website which loads a video (mplayer-plugin), the complete kde crashes
[01:38] <intelikey> !kde4
[01:38] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:38] <draik> intelikey: While this is the first time this has happened, it's the 2nd time I was locked out. The first incident added 3 other users. This time it removed GRUB :(
[01:39] <intelikey> draik understood.    and may i say i sympothize, over "too much automatic ####!" in ubuntu.
[01:41] <intelikey> all it takes is one cron job doing something with the boot loader or for some the gui, and it fail.   leaves a dark brown taste in your mouth about the whole os.
[01:42] <intelikey> automatic updates give linux a bad name.    imo
[01:43] <draik> intelikey: What would happen if I copy a very similar install's /boot/grub/menu.lst file to this laptop which just ate it?
[01:44] <intelikey> welcome back mefisto__, you timed it just right.    "missed my rant"   :)
[01:44] <mefisto__> rant about?
[01:44] <intelikey> draik if the disk/partitions and kernel version are the same it will work.  if not, you'll have basicly the same mess to contend with.
[01:45] <intelikey> mefisto__ don't ask.      automatic crap breaking things.
[01:45] <draik> intelikey: They are the same. Just didn't know if there was anything in particular with could not be used.
[01:46] <intelikey> draik shouldn't be.   but i think it would be easy enough to fix from a live CD    do you have one ?
[01:46] <draik> intelikey: Yes. Booting at this time.
[01:46] <intelikey> k   i'll walk you through it.
[01:46] <mefisto__> intelikey: gdm login was the same 1024x768 resolution. any other suggestions?
[01:46] <draik> intelikey: Ok. I'm in.
[01:47] <intelikey> mefisto__ it's adjustable.     not sure about the gui thingy  but i edit by hand /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:47] <intelikey> draik is the root fs of the installed system mounted ?
[01:47] <draik> intelikey: Nope. I just loaded the LiveCD of 7.10
[01:48] <intelikey> ok.   open a terminal   and do   cat /proc/partitions ;mount
[01:49] <intelikey> draik find your installed fs's root partition (assuming you use a partition)   and look at the output of the mount command to make sure it's not already mounted.   then mount it on /mnt
[01:50] <intelikey> if you need more specific help on things just say so.
[01:53] <intelikey> draik still with me ?
[01:54] <sloop> -thanks intelikey fixed my grub but kde4 doesnt see my atheros card
[01:54] <shinda_> hey anyone familiar with mkvextract tools?
[01:55] <intelikey> !kde4 | sloop best i can do with kde4 is point you to the other room. sorry.
[01:55] <ubotu> sloop best i can do with kde4 is point you to the other room. sorry.: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:55] <sloop> sweet - thx
[01:55] <intelikey> np
[01:56] <snarkster> YAH!!! i got a sexond interview with a law firm..
[01:57] <intelikey> shinda_ if you ask more specific questions you are more likely to get a responce.    if you specify the issue you are having, including any error messages; you are even more likely to get help.
[01:57] <snarkster> second even
[01:57] <draik> intelikey: Sorry, got a phone call. Took a while to get connection back on my network. (Don't ask)
[01:57] <intelikey> snarkster frauidian slip ?
[01:57] <phoenixz> My adept manager crashed and I can't start it anymore, its saying something about database which is locked.. How can I fix this?
[01:58] <snarkster> no im happy.. I know its OT..
[01:58] <snarkster> !adept
[01:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:58] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[01:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:58] <shinda_> sorry, basically I want to remux an mkv to a vob, and I realize that it requires mkvtools and mp4box, but not sure about the actual use, I want to remux video so I can play it on my ps3, anyone have any experience doing this?
[01:59] <snarkster> i took flv and converted to mpg for use on a psp
[01:59] <snarkster> Use convert it
[01:59] <snarkster> its in the repos
[01:59] <draik> intelikey: I'm using the whole HDD.
[01:59] <draik> intelikey: How do I check?
[01:59] <intelikey> draik ok.  mount it
[01:59] <shinda_> yea, don't want to convert anything since that'll involve having to wait for the videos to transcode and that will take 12+ hours which I really don't want to do
[02:00] <stunatra> What's a good partitioner/formatter for Kubuntu?
[02:00] <intelikey> draik oh sorry.     sudo fdisk -l
[02:00] <snarkster> then what are you asking about?
[02:00] <snarkster> according to what you just asked:
[02:00] <snarkster> sorry, basically I want to remux an mkv to a vob, and I realize that it requires mkvtools and mp4box, but not sure about the actual use, I want to remux video so I can play it on my ps3, anyone have any experience doing this?
[02:01] <snarkster> sounds like you are converting.. isnt remuxing the same as converting?
[02:01] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:01] <shinda_> no, remuxing is just changing the headers and containers without changing the  content
[02:01] <snarkster> ah
[02:01] <intelikey> draik that will show disks and partitions if any.    then if it's not mounted.   "use the mount command without arguments to check";  mount it on /mnt thus   sudo mount /dev/hda /mnt   < example only
[02:01] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[02:01] <snarkster> so google remoxing mkv to mpg
[02:02] <snarkster> remuxing even
[02:02] <snarkster> make a gif out of the jpg sequences and then convert to mov
[02:02] <shinda_> ya, most the guides are all windows specific using windows apps that do it for you, I've found one guide but was wondering if anyone had any other experience with it, to maybe save some time
[02:02] <snarkster> ah.. good on you..
[02:02] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:02] <unagi_> stunatra: gparted
[02:02] <snarkster> I have no experience with such things other than converting it directly
[02:03] <stunatra> thanks unagi_
[02:03] <intelikey> clue/4     google.com/linux   then search.
[02:03] <intelikey> draik ok    sudo chroot /mnt
[02:04] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:04] <intelikey> draik mount none /proc -t proc
[02:04] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:04] <intelikey> draik update-grub
[02:05] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:05] <intelikey> draik lets test it,     grub
[02:05] <intelikey> draik you should have now a grub prompt
[02:05] <intelikey> ?
[02:05] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:06] <intelikey> draik    root (hd0)     < again assuming no partition  if you have one partition change to    root (hd0,0)
[02:06] <intelikey> if it's not the first hd  then change acordingly
[02:07] <sloop> shhhhuuuuuuuuccckkkksss it;s quiet in kubunut-kDE4 ..like a funeral home
[02:07] <intelikey> you have that ?    it should return the    fs type   ?
[02:07] <draik> intelikey: Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[02:08] <draik> intelikey: root (hd0,0)
[02:08] <intelikey> draik ok,  what did you type to mount the fs ?
[02:09] <intelikey> it was    sudo mount /dev/<what?> /mnt
[02:10] <intelikey> draik ?
[02:10] <intelikey> DRAIK !
[02:11] <intelikey> hmmm he's gone.....
[02:12] <intelikey> hope he doesn't panic in the middle of that....
[02:12] <phoenixz> j/joinn #windows
[02:12] <phoenixz> I DIDNT WRITE THAT!!
[02:12] <intelikey> of course not.
[02:12] <intelikey> :)
[02:12] <intelikey> wb.
[02:13] <unagi_> stunatra: gparted
[02:13] <phoenixz> Im just demoing IRC to a windows user.. really...
[02:13] <unagi_> oops
[02:13] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[02:13] <intelikey> draik ok,  what did you type to mount the fs ?  it was    sudo mount /dev/<what?> /mnt
[02:13] <snarkster> unagi i guess you didnt like my suggestion
[02:13] <phoenixz> unagi_, IIRC, there is a utility in apt-get that can do that... at least images to movie.. then you can convert the movie to .mov..
[02:14] <phoenixz> unagi_, problem is that I forgot the names of those :P
[02:14] <unagi_> hrm
[02:15] <sigma16> where can i get mailserver setup help
[02:17]  * draik swears at the cordless phone
[02:17] <sigma16> ?????????????????/
[02:17] <draik> intelikey: Sorry, got another phone call. It was actually important, too.
[02:17] <intelikey> draik ok.  you back with me now?
[02:17] <draik> intelikey: Yes
[02:17] <draik> Ok
[02:17] <draik> How do I find out the partition?
[02:17] <intelikey> ok you still at the grub prompt ?
[02:17] <Daisuke-Ido> sigma16: a long string of question marks is unlikely to make you any friends
[02:17] <draik> sda1 is Linux
[02:18] <draik> sda2 is Extended
[02:18] <draik> sda5 is swap
[02:18] <intelikey> draik ok and are you still looking at the grub prompt ?
[02:18] <sigma16> i need help with setting up a mailserver.... i wqas following a guide on the ubuntu community site and i hit a snag
[02:18] <draik> intelikey: Yes
[02:18] <intelikey> draik ok type in     quit
[02:18] <draik> intelikey: I'm stuck at the      root (hd0,0)        part of the session
[02:19] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:19] <intelikey> draik now in the chrooted shell.   cat /boot/grub/devic*
[02:19] <Daisuke-Ido> could you possibly be a little more specific?
[02:19] <dazza> hi, i'm having problems with my mouse - it stops responding when typing on the keyboard. this is on a dell inspiron 1520 and it was working fine up until today
[02:19] <draik> intelikey: hd0   /dev/hda
[02:19] <snarkster> did you do any updates?
[02:19] <intelikey> draik should show one line per hdd you have
[02:20] <dazza> uh yeah, it was libprobe i think
[02:20] <intelikey> draik you have only one ?
[02:20] <dazza> got updated this morning
[02:20] <draik> intelikey: yes
[02:20] <sigma16> can some 1 plz help me...
[02:20] <Daisuke-Ido> like, i dunno, a link to the guide you're following, information about what step you hit a snag on, something for us to work with, because as it stands, "i'm following a guide and i hit a snag" tells us diddley-squat.
[02:20] <sigma16> if not show me were i can get help?
[02:20] <dazza> i restarted x, then restarted the whole laptop, then ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:20] <intelikey> draik ok.   now lets check the device node     ls -l /dev/hda1
[02:21] <draik> intelikey: The funny thing is that its under /dev/sda , not hda
[02:21] <intelikey> draik that's ok.  that's scsi emulation used by the live cd
[02:21] <draik> intelikey: ls: /dev/hda1: No such file or directory
[02:21] <draik> intelikey: Oh, ok.
[02:22] <intelikey> draik ok i want you to run this    mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[02:23] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:23] <intelikey> draik that will make a static device for the kernel to use in a pinch.
[02:23] <KillerFlamingo> does any one know of a free version or program like VMware that i can use to virtualize Winxp
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> !vistualbox | KillerFlamingo
[02:23] <intelikey> draik ok one more thing.     grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vistualbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: you could try virtualbox
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> crud
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> !virtualbox | KillerFlamingo
[02:23] <ubotu> KillerFlamingo: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[02:23] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: vmware itself is also free, but not open source
[02:23] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:24] <KillerFlamingo> vmware wanted $189
[02:24] <Daisuke-Ido> vmware *server* is free (and i believe it has less features)
[02:24] <intelikey> draik if that didn't show anything we have work to do.
[02:24] <draik> intelikey: kernel          /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[02:24] <sly> hi
[02:24] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: not for vmware server edition
[02:24] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: that one is free
[02:24] <draik> intelikey: But it's commented out
[02:25] <dazza> but virtualbox-ose will work as well i think, and it's easier to install :D
[02:25] <draik> intelikey: Nevermind. It's at the bottom. It only has the memtest
[02:25] <KillerFlamingo> ok i'll try them both
[02:25] <sly> !channel
[02:25] <KillerFlamingo> thank you
[02:25] <intelikey> draik ok you still have a problem then.   lets try another avinew
[02:25] <sly> !find channel list
[02:25] <intelikey> draik rm /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:25] <intelikey> or you can move it
[02:25] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:25] <sly> !join
[02:25] <sly> !join channel
[02:26] <draik> intelikey: Removed
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <ubotu> File channel found in dancer-services, doc-iana, epic4-help, epic4-script-hienoa, epic4-script-light (and 8 others)
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <intelikey> draik     mknod /dev/hda b 3 0
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:26] <intelikey> draik grub-install /dev/hda
[02:27] <draik> intelikey: I'm at the GRUB>
[02:27] <intelikey> ?
[02:27] <intelikey> shouldn't be
[02:27] <intelikey> quit
[02:27] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:28] <intelikey> did you put a space in the grub-install command or something ?
[02:28] <intelikey> up arrow to check
[02:28]  * draik is embarrassed
[02:28] <intelikey> thought so
[02:29] <draik> intelikey: Yeah. I removed the space and put grub-install this time
[02:29] <intelikey> ok up arrow and grep the menu.lst again
[02:29] <draik> intelikey: /dev/sda1: Not found or not a block device
[02:29] <intelikey> oh we'll make one then.
[02:29] <replman> Hi! I fixed my video-playing-x11-crashing problem. It was a driver problem. I installed the newest nvidia-driver and everything works fine now :-)
[02:30] <draik> intelikey: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[02:30] <intelikey> draik   mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
[02:30] <intelikey> draik and   mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1
[02:30] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:30] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:31] <intelikey> now do the grub-install /dev/sda      command again.
[02:31]  * draik makes sure he types it in correctly this time...
[02:31] <intelikey> i don't like having to fight with scsi emulation,      but we'll get there.
[02:31] <draik> intelikey: /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[02:32] <intelikey> hda  my typo this time
[02:32] <snarkster> later folks
[02:32] <intelikey> snarkster
[02:32] <draik> intelikey: /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[02:33] <intelikey> NDPMacBook:    rm /dev/sda1 && ln -s /dev/hda1 /dev/sda1
[02:33] <intelikey> bah. tab completion
[02:33] <intelikey> draik            ^
[02:33] <pocket> how do i find a list of channels?
[02:33] <intelikey> pocket /list  but i advise you to filter it.   it's huge
[02:34] <pocket> intelikey thank you
[02:34] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:34] <pocket> intelikey how do i filter it?
[02:34] <intelikey> pocket most clients have ways  look in it's menu
[02:34] <pocket> intelikey thanks
[02:35] <intelikey> draik grub-install /dev/hda
[02:35] <intelikey> finish without error ?
[02:35] <draik> somewhat...
[02:35] <intelikey> ok   grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:35] <draik> Searching for GRUB installation directory... found: /boot/grub
[02:36] <draik> The file /boot/grub/state1 not read correctly
[02:36] <intelikey> yes that's not an error.
[02:36] <draik> ok
[02:36] <intelikey> oh my.
[02:36] <intelikey> stage1 not read correctly could be a problem.
[02:36] <draik> intelikey: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[02:37] <intelikey> ok.
[02:37] <intelikey> draik hmmm i'm thinking.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> sounds like some files in /boot got moved/deleted
[02:38] <intelikey> draik two ways to aproach that.   rm /boot/grub -r   and try again   or   enter the grub shell and install from there.
[02:38] <draik> The grub shell seems interesting
[02:38] <intelikey> grub
[02:38] <draik> ok
[02:38] <intelikey> root (hd0,0)
[02:38] <KillerFlamingo> so i have a stupid question about virtual box
[02:39] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:39] <intelikey> install (hd0)
[02:39] <KillerFlamingo> do i install generic or server
[02:39] <intelikey> or is it setup (hd0)   ???
[02:39] <intelikey> heh i forgot.
[02:39] <draik> I think it's setup
[02:39] <draik> Either way, I get an error
[02:39] <intelikey> what is it
[02:39] <draik> Error 22: No such partition
[02:40] <intelikey> setup (hd0,0)
[02:41] <draik> Error 22: No such partition
[02:41] <intelikey> Dr_willis what do you make of that ?
[02:42]  * intelikey is thinking by now,  if that was my box i would already have installed lilo and forgoten it.....
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Sounds like hes really broken somthing. :)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> or /boot is on its own partition, and not mounted
[02:43]  * draik would rather work on the Linux box than return to windows
[02:43] <intelikey> Dr_willis no we have been playing in /boot
[02:44] <intelikey> draik dito
[02:44] <Dr_willis> he seems to be missing a  : /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis that was the reason for being here.
[02:45] <draik> I only use windows when forced. That being work and other people's computer.
[02:45] <intelikey> it had only one entry  "memtest"   and update-grub didn't add anything
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Makes ya wonder how it vanished. and what other things it took. :) did he have a  /boot/grub/stage1 and stage2 ?
[02:45] <smeril> how do i close a program in the bakround that is stoping me from using any other packet manager
[02:45] <sub[t]rnl> whats: find /boot/grub/stage1 tell ya?
[02:45] <intelikey> we rm'd the broken menu.lst
[02:45] <sub[t]rnl> or is that step even necessary
[02:46] <Dr_willis> ls -l /boot/grub/menu* to see if the files even exist, and if they exist. they have actual data in them.
[02:46] <intelikey> draik see sub[t]rnl ^
[02:46] <Dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    512 2008-01-17 13:15 stage1
[02:46] <Dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-01-17 13:15 stage2
[02:46] <smeril> ?
[02:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis it doesn't now.  but it did and was useless
[02:46] <intelikey> smeril killall <name>
[02:46] <Dr_willis> smeril,  close the apps with the kill command, or  by closign their interface. depends on what you got running -
[02:47] <intelikey> smeril and if by background you mean you ^Z 'd it,  then fg it
[02:47] <draik> find /boot/grub/strage1 tells me..        (hd0,0)
[02:48]  * Dr_willis is not sure what find is doing :) heh heh..
[02:48] <sub[t]rnl> telling him where to install grub
[02:48] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[02:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis grub's find
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Ok :) that makes more sence
[02:48] <draik> Dr_willis: Nope. Nothing. I only have menu.lst~
[02:49] <intelikey> draik ok.    grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst~  and see if it's usable
[02:49] <intelikey> the ~ means an editor probably made that.
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Yep.  Im trying to figure out wht would of removed all the kernel entries in menu.lst
[02:51] <intelikey> draik ls /lib/modules/ /boot/vmlin*
[02:52] <Romina> hi
[02:52] <sub[t]rnl> theres always the super grub disk, as a last resort
[02:52] <Romina> I am searching for a command,  equal to "emerge world"
[02:52] <sub[t]rnl> apt-get
[02:53] <Romina> there is Kubuntu 7.04 running on this PC,  and I would like to upgrade to 7.10
[02:53] <draik> intelikey: Ok. What do you need/
[02:53] <draik> ?
[02:53] <draik> I have the 2.6.22-14 generic
[02:53] <Romina> without downloading an ISO Image,  burning a bootable CD,   deleting the old system and setting up the new system
[02:53] <Romina> is there any way?
[02:53] <intelikey> only to make sure you see a dir in modules/ and a kernel in /boot
[02:54] <sub[t]rnl> romina: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:54] <intelikey> draik just to make sure that the kernel was still there
[02:54] <draik> ok
[02:54] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, sounds good .... is it risky?
[02:55] <Romina> sub[t]rnl,  most packages are from the official repositories,  some aren't
[02:55] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ I've never ran into a problem
[02:55] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, example:  d3lphin  is dolphin for kubuntu 7.04
[02:55] <Romina> its a packport
[02:55] <Romina> frostwire is a limewire ... "fork" ...
[02:55] <intelikey> draik lets run the   update-grub    again
[02:55] <Romina> it has been installed as a deb
[02:55] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, will these programs cause problems?
[02:56] <sub[t]rnl> nope
[02:56] <intelikey> draik see if it makes a new menu.lst
[02:56] <Romina> how comes?
[02:56] <intelikey> it is supposed to
[02:56] <draik> intelikey: It asked. I said YES
[02:56] <draik> Seems I only have memtest
[02:56] <Romina> how will dependencies resolved if they are not resolvable?
[02:56] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ run it and see
[02:56] <Romina> okay
[02:57] <draik> intelikey: Yup. Only memtest
[02:57] <intelikey> wow.... draik i have never seen it act this way.     i'm kinda at a loss as to what to try now.
[02:57] <draik> intelikey: What if I do a copy/paste of my other laptop's menu.lst? Would that work?
[02:57] <intelikey> draik   dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[02:57] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, thank you very much for the information you gave me
[02:58] <sub[t]rnl> no problemo
[02:58] <draik> I have the 2.6.22-14-generic, linux-image-generic and a few past versions
[02:58] <shinda_> anyone familiar with converting ac3 audio files to aac?
[02:58] <Strangework> When should KDE4 be remotely bug-free for Kubuntu?
[02:59] <intelikey> draik yeah you can do that.   but update-grub will hose it too when it is ran, if we don't find out what is causing this
[02:59] <intelikey> draik past versions ?   with   ii  in the first coloum ?
[02:59] <draik> intelikey: Yes
[02:59] <intelikey> and you have these kernels in /boot as well ?
[03:00] <draik> intelikey: I figure that the menu.lst file is a crapshoot. Copy/paste from other laptop should fix it, right?
[03:00] <draik> intelikey: Yes. They are in /boot as well
[03:00] <intelikey> try it.   if not we'll try something different
[03:01] <draik> Onit
[03:01] <draik> On it
[03:01] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl did you notice that he has several kernels installed and  update-grub  made a new menu.lst with only memtest listed in it ?
[03:01] <sub[t]rnl> cookies waiting if you get it resolved intelikey, just keep that in mind
[03:01] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:02] <draik> intelikey: In regards to the mounting and such of the usb drive, do I want to mount as user?
[03:02] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ wasn't following too closely, but that is strange as heck
[03:02] <intelikey> something is seriously hosed.   like maybe  perl is missing or something
[03:03] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, there are 2 more questions comming into my head concerning the same problem and since you've been the one how answered my question before,  I would like to direct them straight to you
[03:03] <intelikey> draik normally as root.
[03:03] <Strangework> When should KDE4 be remotely bug-free for Kubuntu?
[03:03] <draik> intelikey: Hmmm.. ok
[03:03] <KillerFlamingo> So i tried the virtualbox with many error durring the install so now i will try to the VMware but it looks as though i will need to compile it my self unless some out there knows of another way?
[03:03] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, please tell me,  if I can see in advance how much traffic it will cause to do the dist-upgrade,   because my internet package plan allows me only to download 3 gigs per month
[03:03] <intelikey> draik it's a linux fs so the permissions are not affected by who mounts
[03:04] <intelikey> i.e. the permissions bit is on each inode
[03:04] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, next question: I just found out that there is a KubuntuDistUpgrade      Tool
[03:04] <Romina> can it be recommended?
[03:04] <FaiDillinGer> how can i enable numlock at login time please ? when xorg popsup
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ theres several ways to get yourself upgraded.  kubuntudistupgrade is most likely an apt front end anyway
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> upgrade | Romina
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> dern
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> !upgrade | Romina
[03:05] <intelikey> totally opposed to M$ fs's which have no permissions bit and thus the mount command assigns an fs wide permission
[03:05] <ubotu> Romina: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:05] <Romina> Thank you sub[t]rnl !
[03:06] <draik> intelikey: Ok. I copied menu.lst to /mnt/boot/grub/
[03:06] <draik> umount /mnt?
[03:06] <intelikey> no
[03:06] <intelikey> first umount /proc
[03:06] <intelikey> then exit the chroot shell
[03:06] <intelikey> then umount /mnt
[03:06] <draik> How do I exit the chroot shell?
[03:07] <intelikey> exit
[03:07] <draik> Got it. Thanks
[03:07] <draik> Done
[03:07] <draik> Reboot?
[03:07] <intelikey> yep
[03:07] <draik> Ok. Here goes
[03:08]  * intelikey runs for cover.
[03:08] <intelikey> :)
[03:08] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[03:08] <intelikey> LOOK OUT SHE'S GONA BLOW !!!!!
[03:08]  * sub[t]rnl face plants
[03:09] <draik> WHOA
[03:09] <draik> It's flashing all over the place
[03:09] <draik> Ok
[03:09] <draik> No more flashing
[03:09]  * draik is happy he's not epileptic
[03:09] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, is the "apt-get upgrade"  stuff really necessary?   Because it will download 342 Mb of packages
[03:10] <intelikey> draik remember the stage1 error?   that may have been it.
[03:10] <kadam> !raid
[03:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:10] <draik> Should I have copied it as well?
[03:10] <draik> intelikey: I only copy/pasted menu.lst
[03:10] <intelikey> draik we'll see
[03:10] <intelikey> how is it doing ?
[03:10] <draik> I have a brown/tan screen
[03:11] <draik> It's not doing anything
[03:11] <intelikey> then probably yes.
[03:11] <draik> All I need from the laptop is the IM log
[03:11] <draik> How can I get the log from kopete?
[03:11] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ its recommended that your system be up to date before upgrading via repositories
[03:12]  * intelikey wonders if that's an "i'm going to reload this thing"    question
[03:12] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, ok then I will do so
[03:12] <Romina> thank you very much once more
[03:12] <draik> intelikey: Yeah. Seems that's going to be the only way.
[03:12] <sub[t]rnl> *cough* super grub disk *cough*
[03:12] <draik> Wait
[03:12] <draik> Haha.
[03:12] <draik> sub[t]rnl: Yup
[03:13] <kadam> Is it possible/simple to install Linux on a separate hard drive than Windows?
[03:13] <intelikey> draik boot the live CD and copy the stage1* files as well      and while you are there copy your log out   then if it doesn't boot, you can reload without having to go back in.
[03:13] <draik> !enter | draik
[03:13] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ you bet
[03:13] <draik> kadam: Yes.
[03:14] <intelikey> kadam linux doesn't really care where it lives, as long as it's not in ntfs space
[03:14] <intelikey> well or vfat
[03:15] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: draik: Would it be advisable to remove my windows drive before installation?  Is there anything I should know to install the bootloader?  Will it ask me which drive I want it installed on?
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> and as we just learned, as long as grub can find the partition to boot from
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:15] <kadam> ahh, heheh, nice
[03:15] <draik> kadam: Leave it in there. It's better that way
[03:16] <kadam> draik: If my Windows drive is a raid0 array, will I have issues with GRUB?
[03:16] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl "partition" being a key word for grub.  i don't use them   and lilo does just fine at booting without a partition
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ no need to remove your windows drive before installing.  You can select the drive you want to install on from the bootable cd
[03:16] <draik> Corss your fingers... here we go
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ agreed
[03:17] <draik> intelikey: I had linux setup on a separate HDD at one point. Not an issue with GRUB.
[03:17] <intelikey> draik i said nothing about that.   i said i don't have a partition
[03:18] <kadam> Orrr, what if I set my Linux drive as the first boot device, and install GRUB to IT?
[03:18] <kadam> hehe, sorry, I'm just scared ! :O
[03:18] <draik> Install Linux. Use GrUB. GrUB will know what to do.
[03:18] <draik> intelikey: Sorry. Read it wrong
[03:18] <intelikey> kadam it wont hurt a thing to do it that way.  and if you feel safer to unplug the other drive/s first, do that.
[03:19]  * draik is going to research Lasik eye surgery after the laptop boots up.
[03:19] <kadam> Very well 8)  so, just to insure, GrUB can handle RAID0?
[03:19]  * kadam has wanted eye surgery since radial keratotomy
[03:20] <intelikey> it can when setup propperly.
[03:20] <draik> intelikey: sub[t]rnl: I'm in INITRAMFS
[03:20] <intelikey> then the root=/device is wrong
[03:20] <sub[t]rnl> you leave me out of this, your in capable hands
[03:20] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:21] <morphine> howdy folks
[03:21] <intelikey> draik reboot.  and at the menu  edit the line and change the  root=/dev/hda1   <<< should be that
[03:21] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+del  should reboot you just fine.
[03:21] <draik> Yup
[03:22]  * kadam starts on HD installation
[03:22] <intelikey> we could have continued from the initramfs  but i don't much like to
[03:23] <draik> intelikey: I have root=UUID=(long string of characters)
[03:23] <draik> Change it?
[03:23] <intelikey> change it to   root=/dev/hda1
[03:24] <draik> Ok
[03:24] <draik> Booting from it
[03:24] <woddf2> Hello
[03:24] <intelikey> enter to accept   b to boot
[03:24] <draik> Did that
[03:24] <woddf2> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php Is this what I should read if I want to upgrade to KDE 4?
[03:24] <draik> acpi-force is required to enable ACPI
[03:24] <draik> Loading, please wait...
[03:25] <intelikey> draik now if the initramfs has a device node .....
[03:25] <draik> Sorry, that was to be acpi=force
[03:25] <maybeway36> woddf2: yeah
[03:25] <woddf2> Thanks
[03:25] <woddf2> Goodbye
[03:25] <maybeway36> i'm on debian lenny. it's not there yet
[03:26] <intelikey> draik is it booting ?   or waiting on an fs ?
[03:27] <draik> It's just sitting there
[03:27] <draik> Loading, please wait...
[03:27] <draik> Ok
[03:27] <draik> Back to INITRAMFS
[03:27] <intelikey> ok when it times out you'll have to do this    mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[03:27] <draik> intelikey: ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.
[03:28] <intelikey> from mknod command ?
[03:28] <intelikey> draik   mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[03:28] <draik> Nope. That's once it's done "loading"
[03:28] <draik> intelikey: Done
[03:28] <intelikey> mount /dev/hda1 /root
[03:28] <marcos> good evening all
[03:29] <draik> intelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address
[03:29] <intelikey> draik modprobe ide-disk
[03:30] <draik> ok
[03:30] <intelikey> draik mount /dev/hda1 /root
[03:30] <draik> intelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address
[03:30] <intelikey> sec.
[03:30] <X9nLinuxX> I did a reinstall of Dapper on an old iMac yesterday.  After installation, went into system settings -> Login Manager -> Admin mode | ... to make some modifications and it put up the password screen as expected... entered password and it popped up a window saying 'Conversation with su failed'...
[03:30] <X9nLinuxX> Q1: What does this mean?  Q2: How do I fix it?
[03:31] <intelikey> ok draik modprobe ide-generic
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: Done
[03:31] <intelikey> draik modprobe ext3
[03:31] <intelikey> then mount again
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address
[03:32] <intelikey> interesting.    ls -l /dev/hda1
[03:32] <ere4si> need mkdir /root/hda1 (or another name)
[03:32] <intelikey> no
[03:32] <intelikey> ere4si /root is correct
[03:33] <draik> intelikey: brw-r--r--    1 0        0       3,    1 /dev/hda1
[03:33] <intelikey> draik just to make sure, type     exit
[03:33] <intelikey> draik if it boots your in. if not it loops back to the prompt
[03:33] <draik> Ok. I typed exit and it looped to the prompt
[03:33] <intelikey> ok
[03:34] <intelikey> let me study the modules list a minute
[03:34] <draik> Ok
[03:34] <intelikey> draik modprobe generic
[03:34] <intelikey> and exit
[03:35] <draik> FATAL: Module generic not found
[03:35] <draik> still exit?
[03:35] <intelikey> no
[03:35] <woddf2> How do I upgrade to KDE 4 without keeping KDE 3?
[03:36] <intelikey> draik lets see if you have an fs listed by uid in /dev  ls /dev
[03:36] <draik> I hve a few things in there
[03:36] <intelikey> !kde4 | woddf2
[03:36] <ubotu> woddf2: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:36] <draik> ls /dev provided quite a list
[03:36] <intelikey> draik anything about uid or uuid ?
[03:37] <woddf2> Thanks
[03:37] <draik> intelikey: Many TTY**, but after that there isn't any UID or UUID
[03:38] <intelikey> try  ls /dev/u*
[03:38] <intelikey> or   ls /dev/U*
[03:38] <draik> intelikey: usb1 and urandom
[03:38] <intelikey> ok.  let me think some more.
[03:38] <draik> intelikey: Nothing for U*
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ can you run any commands via sudo?
[03:40] <X9nLinuxX> Would I need to do a complete reinstall because of a 'Conversation with su failed' message?
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ most likely no, ill walk try to walk you through it
[03:40] <intelikey> draik i'm pretty sure you are only a module away from booting,  but i don't know which module.   if i knew your hardware i might be able to find it.  but this remote trubble shooting with "stone knoves and bear skins" is kinda awkward...
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ can you execute any commands with sudo?
[03:41] <intelikey> X9nLinuxX sudo echo boo     <<<< that will test your sudoers rights
[03:41] <draik> intelikey: Haha. Nice way to put it
[03:42] <draik> intelikey: I thank you for your time and effort
[03:42] <draik> You've been great
[03:42] <intelikey> X9nLinuxX if it says boo then you are good to go,  if it doesn't say boo  then you cainT root
[03:42] <X9nLinuxX> everything works fine except for having no access to things that want password / admin authentication
[03:42] <X9nLinuxX> Password authentication on start up is fine...
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ right, try running the command intelikely gave you
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> trying to see if its just a problem with kdesu
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> (he said dapper right?)
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[03:43] <X9nLinuxX> yes dapper... starting up konsole now
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> hopefully sudo works, saves a reboot into recovery mode
[03:44] <Agent_bob> draik seeing that my modem just reset.   (which means i have not made rounds in time to catch it.)  i think i better go for a few.
[03:44] <X9nLinuxX> it did say boo...
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> k, so its just kdesu
[03:44] <draik> Agent_bob: ...?
[03:45] <Agent_bob> draik yeah it's me.    :)
[03:45] <Agent_bob> < intelikey
[03:45] <draik> Agent_bob: 10-4.
[03:45] <draik> Agent_bob: If I load up the Live CD, hoe do I get what I need?
[03:45] <X9nLinuxX> so what does this mean? (Sorry if I'm missing something here)
[03:45] <draik> Can I copy/paste into the mounted partition?
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ sudo visudo
[03:46] <Agent_bob> draik sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt    and brouse /mnt/home
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ you'll see a line like: root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:46] <Agent_bob> draik absolutely   if you have permission.    i.e.  kdesudo konqueror
[03:47] <draik> Agent_bob: I should. It's loading right now
[03:47] <X9nLinuxX> ok... 'timestamp too far in the future'
[03:47] <X9nLinuxX> didn't get any line about root
[03:47] <Agent_bob> back in a bit.      and draik your live CD user is "ubuntu" which is probably not the installed user name... so perms will very
[03:47] <Agent_bob> vary
[03:47] <sub[t]rnl> so it just spit out that error? didn't access the sudoers file?
[03:48] <X9nLinuxX> um.... wait a minute...
[03:48] <woddf2> KDE 4 crashes when I try to use it!
[03:48] <X9nLinuxX> right... but...
[03:48] <woddf2> X crashes, and it returns me to KDM!
[03:49] <woddf2> ...well?
[03:49] <X9nLinuxX> clock time shows that the time is 17:48... that's five hours ago...
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ hrm, try clearing the timestamps, sudo -k
[03:49] <X9nLinuxX> (is this an issue with clock being mucked up?
[03:49] <woddf2> X crashes when I try to use KDE 4!
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ most likely.  I believe linux has security measures against date time adjusted exploits to get around security
[03:50] <X9nLinuxX> again timestamp too far in the future
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> try setting the clock back
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> way back, then try clearing it
[03:50] <X9nLinuxX> The install just finished last night... its essentially 'out of the box' without my fiddlings
[03:51] <X9nLinuxX> the time here is USA EST... so the actual time should read 22:51
[03:52] <woddf2> X crashes when I try to use KDE 4!
[03:52] <X9nLinuxX> aaaawwwww... now it won't even show the clock adjustment info
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> woddf2: #kubuntu-kde4
[03:53] <woddf2> No-one answered!
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> So!
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> Not everything has to be an exclamation!
[03:53] <_luke_> woddf2: yeah I think I have the same issue
[03:53]  * Daisuke-Ido grumbles
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> sorry, i'll go back to my beer now :D
[03:54]  * sub[t]rnl slides Daisuke-Ido another
[03:54] <Daisuke-Ido> woohoo!
[03:54] <shinda__> hey guys anyone know where I can find ac52dec I've search google and the repos but can't find it,
[03:54] <Daisuke-Ido> !ac52dec
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ac52dec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <Daisuke-Ido> are you sure that's the name?
[03:55] <Daisuke-Ido> because if there's *nothing* on google...  you've probably got it spelled wrong
[03:55] <shinda__> well there are articles on how to use it on google, and even found it mentioned in an old ubuntus repositary but nothing more then that
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ get it working?
[03:56] <X9nLinuxX> no...
[03:56] <X9nLinuxX> it won't even show the clock info now ...admin login key is grayed out too
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> try sudo -v from konsole
[03:57] <Daisuke-Ido> shinda__: just out of curiosity, what is it?
[03:57] <X9nLinuxX> its says I'm at desktop now... but that's it
[03:57] <Daisuke-Ido> it's possible it's been deprecated and replaced by a new piece of software
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ no errors when running the command?
[03:58] <X9nLinuxX> no
[03:58] <shinda__> ac3 decoder, to dump ac3 files to wavs it looks like (it was mentioned in a tutorial) but I think I'm going try ffmpeg
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ now try sudo -k
[03:58] <Daisuke-Ido> ffmpeg would be your best bet
[03:58] <X9nLinuxX> time stame too far in future again
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ have you rebooted since the errors?  I don't really like to suggest it, but I'm sure that will clear up the problem
[04:00] <X9nLinuxX> no... but will do that now
[04:01] <X9nLinuxX> it does allow login on startup ok... but then after that... no joy about admin access anywhere
[04:01] <X9nLinuxX> (that was earlier today)
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> the timestamps are stored in your /var/run/sudo/ as far as I know.
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> rebooting should straighten it out
[04:02] <X9nLinuxX> is this perhaps related to the time being wrong so its not happy to let an 'alien' login to the computer because of the time screwup?
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, its directly related
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[04:03] <fantom210> is there a channel to talk about fedora?
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> #fedora
[04:04] <X9nLinuxX> machine is slower than hobbes, but at least it gives me a chance to play linux unmolested by things like 'productivity' and 'work' until confidence in the system settles in more
[04:04] <fantom210> thanks
[04:05] <kadam> What's the best FS to use if I want to read and write from linux and Windows?  Is there something that can handle, say, 90GB partitions?
[04:05] <X9nLinuxX> this channel & the brains here are the 'make or break' that made me choose Kubuntu over other choices.  Everybody is great here pretty regular
[04:06] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, there are some great people here.
[04:07] <X9nLinuxX> a message popped up on startup 'run as root kde'  ... 'SEEMED' to take authentication happily
[04:08] <X9nLinuxX> then clock shows up... tried login... it 'seems' like maybe its happy to let me in now
[04:08] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ ext3 file system will do nicely.  It can be read in windows with a system driver installed
[04:09] <X9nLinuxX> it looks like the automatic time set installed a time 5 hours off... as if GMT is here and actual gmt is 5 hours behind
[04:10] <X9nLinuxX> wonder what would happen if I changed it to GMT as my time zone
[04:10] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Alright, that sounds fine.  Is that a difficult driver to find/install?
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ nope, ill grab you a link
[04:11] <fantom210> can i play windows games on KUBUNTU?
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> !wine > fantom210
[04:12] <fantom210> what?
[04:12] <chris062689> Hola.
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> !wine | fantom210
[04:12] <ubotu> fantom210: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:13] <fantom210> thanks again!
[04:14] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Nice, thanks 8)  Do you know how I might be able to format the drive in Windows?  Or would I be best off using the liveCD for formatting to ext3?
[04:14] <sub[t]rnl> I would use the liveCD for partitioning
[04:14] <chris062689> How come i'm getting an error?
[04:14] <chris062689> chris@chris-laptop:~/psx$ dir
[04:14] <chris062689> bios  cdimages  pSX
[04:14] <chris062689> chris@chris-laptop:~/psx$ ./pSX
[04:14] <chris062689> bash: ./pSX: No such file or directory
[04:15] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Alright.  Now, here's something I've always wondered... How do I know which drive is which?
[04:15] <chris062689> Why can't I launch pSX?
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ you can look at sudo fdisk -l from the liveCD
[04:15] <fantom210> is that mean i can do everything on kubuntu that i did on windows?
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ it will show your drives, partitions, and filesystems on each
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> fantom210➜ negative, you can probably find alternate programs for the windows counterparts though, that are native to linux.
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> fantom210➜ but yes, a lot of windows programs can be run via wine
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> bbiab
[04:17] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Very nice, you've been most helpful, thank you 8)
[04:18] <chris062689> o_o
[04:18] <chris062689> Why did i Just get spammed with a million people joining?
[04:18] <effie_jayx> chris062689,  it's called netsplit
[04:19] <effie_jayx> @netsplit
[04:23] <chris062689> !netsplit
[04:23] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:24] <Daisuke-Ido> and that was nowhere near a million.  i've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
[04:24] <Sakkath_> i checked integrity of my install cd, but kdm just won't start. i tried getting i386 just becasue i thought maybe it was the amd64 that was th eproblem. i even tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't help.
[04:24] <Sakkath_> Xorg.0.log says 'No devices detected' - 'no screens found'
[04:25] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: have you done any updates since installing?
[04:25] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Are you back?
[04:25] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i answered in other chan, but i'd prefer if you responded-back here
[04:25] <Scunizi> k
[04:26] <chris062689> :\
[04:26] <Sakkath_> gpm isn't a pkg?
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: ok.. do a sudo apt-get update
[04:26] <Sakkath_> yeah i was just considering that.
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: then do a sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:26] <Daisuke-Ido> um
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: tehn do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:27] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: god, why must the install cd be broke?
[04:27] <Daisuke-Ido> Sakkath_: perhaps you're looking for gdm?
[04:27] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: broke?
[04:27] <Scunizi> Daisuke-Ido: he can't seem to get kdm started.. he's on kubuntu
[04:27] <Sakkath_> Daisuke-Ido: no--"#kubuntu"
[04:28] <Scunizi> Daisuke-Ido: he's also got an nvidia 8800 (newer)
[04:28] <Sakkath_> Daisuke-Ido: it's not that i can't find the program, xorg won't start
[04:30] <Scunizi> Daisuke-Ido: Sakkath_ 's install is also fresh as in clean.
[04:30] <Sakkath_> meaning i never installed, this is the install cd
[04:31] <kadam> I'd like to format my secondary drive.  I'm in the liveCD right now.    Is there a new CD out for that?
[04:34] <Sakkath_> kadam: i'd advise against that
[04:34] <organix> agrees with Sakkath_
[04:34] <Sakkath_> 'Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware, the X server may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode switching, via the kernel's framebuffer driver."
[04:35] <Sakkath_> kadam: kde4 is shit and nowhere near being ready to be released--give it some time
[04:35] <Sakkath_> buggy (:
[04:35] <Sakkath_> 'In theory, either approach should work, but in practice, sometimes one does and the other does not. Enabling this option is the safe bet, but feel free to turn it off if it appears to casue problems.'
[04:36] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: you've got nothing to loose
[04:36] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: k
[04:36] <kadam> Sakkath_: Thanks but I've been running it on my laptop for the last three weeks and I love it.  Plus there's a huge update coming out next week, from what I hear.  Do you know if there's a KDE4 CD?
[04:36] <Sakkath_> kadam: no i do not know about it, but i still think you'll regret it if you try it.
[04:37] <draik> Where do I find the history logs from Kopete?
[04:37] <kadam> Sakkath_: I exclusively use KDE4 with no problems for my needs.  I'd just like to do the same on my desktop 8)  THanks tho 8)
[04:37] <Romina> sub[t]rnl ?
[04:37] <Scunizi> kadam: www.kubuntu.org.. follow the links
[04:38] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, please highlight me if you are here
[04:38] <kadam> Ahhh, will I need Hardy to go straight to KDE4?  In that case, yes, too buggy, hehe... I'll stick with the KDE upgrade method and 7.10...
[04:38] <kadam> Scunizi: thanks 8)
[04:39] <Scunizi> kadam np
[04:39] <Romina> anyone here with experiences with a "dist-upgrade" ?
[04:40] <Romina> I have done "aptitude upgrade" which just finished  (342 MB new programs :)
[04:40] <Romina> now I want to do  "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:40] <Scunizi> go for it
[04:40] <Romina> there are just 2 things I worry about:
[04:40] <Scunizi> it won't upgrade to the next version of ubuntu/kubuntu
[04:41] <Romina> 1) do I need to alter  /etc/apt/sources.list   and fill in the  Gutsy (7.10)  sources instead of the 7.04  sources?
[04:41] <Scunizi> Romina: you're upgrading from 7.04.. ?  don't take my advice I borked my upgrade.
[04:41] <sherl0k> wasn't the syntax changed to sudo do-upgrade in 7.04?
[04:41] <sherl0k> instead of a dist-upgrade
[04:42] <Romina> sherl0k, no clue yet
[04:42] <sherl0k> i'm pretty sure that will upgrade you
[04:42] <Romina> Scunizi, so you think I should NOT upgrade?
[04:42] <sherl0k> and your sources.list won't change
[04:42] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: well.. apparently it was the nv driver. i guess i *could* do it w/the 'safe' options and then do the real nvidia driver later.
[04:42] <sherl0k> rather..
[04:42] <sherl0k> you don't need to change them
[04:42] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: so vesa is working?
[04:42] <Romina> do I need to chance my  /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?
[04:42] <sherl0k> the upgrade process does it all for you, at least for the main ubuntu repositories
[04:42] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: yes, w/startx at least
[04:42] <Romina> if yes - before of after the dist upgrade?
[04:42] <ere4si> !upgrade
[04:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:42] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: high 5 to you..!  finally..
[04:42] <sherl0k> that works too :)
[04:43] <sherl0k> thanks ere4si
[04:43] <ere4si> k
[04:43] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: so are you going to do an actual install?
[04:43] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: maybe.
[04:43] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: :P
[04:44] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: after all that ..? what's holding you back?
[04:44] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i WAS gonna, but i donno, i think i might try out debian XD. at least this help will help me elsewhere
[04:44] <sherl0k> hey anyone by chance know much about mysql server confs?
[04:44] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i'll install it for now at least since i already have it downloaded & burned. one day i'l lput debian, just lazy for now.
[04:44] <Sakkath_> sherl0k: man does (:
[04:44] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: I tried debian. nice .. stable.. but syntax is a little different using apt
[04:44] <sherl0k> hahaha
[04:44] <sherl0k> Sakkath_, yeah man doesn't help me much in this situation
[04:45] <Sakkath_> sherl0k: don't ask to ask--just ask your question.
[04:45] <Sakkath_> Don't be so ambiguous (:
[04:45] <sherl0k> lol
[04:45] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: you could always install kubuntu and then vmware then debian in a vm
[04:45] <sherl0k> the debian remark reminded me of my problem i'm having
[04:45] <Sakkath_> do you really want/think someone is gonna sit here and say 'yes i'm familiar with mysql server confs' (:
[04:45] <sherl0k> got an ubuntu box and a debian box, both have mysql server
[04:45] <Sakkath_> 'cause i could be, but i donno how extensive of a problem you have
[04:45] <sherl0k> the debian box, when running mysql, has multiple processes for it
[04:45] <Sakkath_> so i abstain
[04:45] <sherl0k> and the ubuntu box only has one
[04:46] <Romina> ere4si, I looked at this page ...
[04:46] <Scunizi> sherl0k: you could try #ubuntu-server
[04:46] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i could, if i had infinite disk space. if i were to do that i'd just put both on a vm on my windows and screw the dual-boot lol
[04:46] <sherl0k> i tried there :(
[04:46] <Sakkath_> or #mysql (:
[04:46] <Romina> ere4si, but it tells me how to do it graphically
[04:46] <Romina> ere4si, I wanted to stick to the shell
[04:46] <sherl0k> haha yeah i forgot about that
[04:46] <X9nLinuxX> sub[t]rnl: After the restart and then fixing the clock the messages have not stopped.  It looked like it was going to behave, but now its back to not letting me login again "Conversation with su failed" errors again
[04:46] <X9nLinuxX> it DID allow me to login to the admin mode for the clock... but doesn't do so (in 'login' settings)
[04:50] <Sakkath_> looks like i can't just do fakeraid from here. it doesn't even see the hdd as being used at all. when windows is clearly using it
[04:53] <X9nLinuxX> it doesn't allow access to Adept, Users n Groups, system servives, disks, or display
[04:53] <BluesKaj> Sakkath_, dmesg | grep hd  ?
[04:57] <Sakkath_> BluesKaj: looks like lot of errors, will upload a log--hold on
[04:59] <Sakkath_> BluesKaj: no gpm, have to type out link-- http://rafb.net/p/ZfjEup14.html
[05:03] <BluesKaj> Sakkath_, you have DMA disabled ...sorry I don't know the command in Linux
[05:03] <BluesKaj> !DMA
[05:03] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:03] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: If you're here, thanks for that ext3 fs reader for WinXP!  Seems to be working great 8)
[05:04] <Sakkath_> BluesKaj: that's bizare
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ excellent :>
[05:04] <Sakkath> BluesKaj: :S
[05:06] <Sakkath> !DMA
[05:06] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:07] <Sakkath> I obviously can't install dmraid because i'm on the livecd. seems you need to do the raid after, wtf?
[05:07] <Sakkath> oh wow, tha twas easy--hdparm
[05:07] <BluesKaj> Sakkath, that happens sometimes with 2 HDD setups
[05:07] <kadam> wait, what?  I'm just now setting up a 2hd setup...
[05:08] <Sakkath> BluesKaj:  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device <- this is sata, when i do 'hdparm /dev/sda' it shoesn't even show using_dma as an option
[05:09] <BluesKaj> sorry , bedtime here my sata & raid knowledge is  0
[05:10] <kadam> it's not /dev/sds?
[05:10] <Sakkath> uhm.... this fakeraid guide says to go to 'Start -> Settings -> ADministration' this is 7.04 (the guide) and the latest is not 7.04, right?
[05:10] <Sakkath> kadam: well it would be /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[05:10] <kadam> Sakkath: Latest stable is 7.10
[05:10] <kadam> Sakkath: Ahh, you're right 8)
[05:11] <Sakkath> then yeah, tha's what i'm on. so where can i find synaptic manager on this one?
[05:11] <Sakkath> and place to add sources
[05:11] <kadam> if you're askin' me, I wish I could help, sakkath 8)
[05:11] <surgy> Sakkath: you want to edit your sources.list?
[05:12] <Sakkath> i'll use adept.
[05:12] <Sakkath> what are the default and 'universal' sources?
[05:12] <surgy> Sakkath:  its easiest from the command line "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:13] <Sakkath> damn, i'm gonna have to resize using fdisk and ntfsrezise because of my raid
[05:13] <Sakkath> not universal, i meant 'universe software'
[05:13] <surgy> Sakkath:  did you try the command i offered?
[05:14] <Sakkath> surgy: it doesn't necessarily matter since i could have done it from adept
[05:14] <surgy> Sakkath: ok well was just trying to help, and terminal is much faster
[05:14] <Sakkath> oh i see
[05:14] <Sakkath> they are commented out?
[05:14] <Sakkath> ah.
[05:14] <surgy> yeah by defualt
[05:14] <Sakkath> it did help
[05:14] <Sakkath> (:
[05:14] <Sakkath> surgy: thanks.
[05:14] <surgy> see :)
[05:14] <surgy> Sakkath: np
[05:15] <Sakkath> surgy: i don't need the 'deb-src' one, right?
[05:15] <surgy> umm i just uncomment all of em
[05:15] <Sakkath> ok.
[05:15] <dick-richardson> I have an Officejet 5610 connected to my Gutsy machine via usb. How do I print to it from my wife's Mac (OS X Tiger)
[05:15] <Sakkath> surgy: then apt-get update, right?
[05:16] <surgy> Sakkath:  yeah but use sudo "sudo apt-get update"
[05:16] <surgy> or be root or whatever im sure you knew this
[05:16] <Sakkath> surgy: or kdesu. don't worry. i may just be 'sudo su -'d you wouldn't know. i have a bunch of linux experience, just not ubuntu/debian (:
[05:16] <Sakkath> plus it'd bitch at me otherwise :P
[05:17] <Sakkath> woot now i can get gpm, LOL it doesn't matter now cause i got xorg to work w/vesa
[05:17] <surgy> Sakkath: and im the opisit :) i know kubuntu but beyond that, nbothing i know nothing about other distros beyond some of there names
[05:17] <Sakkath> lol
[05:17] <Sakkath> I've spent a lot of time w/Gentoo
[05:18] <surgy> ehh i dowloaded the 10 million terabyte install cds or however big they are for red hat, installed it look around for five mins and formatted once
[05:18] <surgy> fedora*
[05:18] <Sakkath> surgy: some issues trying to get dmraid & gpm (same issues) http://rafb.net/p/IsbRNF15.html
[05:19] <Sakkath> I'm sure now that it's past the 'fedora core' shit, it's a lot better
[05:19] <Sakkath> I herd some things about it being good, or having potential
[05:19] <Sakkath> Fedora 7?
[05:19] <Sakkath> OpenSUSE hhas kde set up nice so that it has this cool search feature in the start menu
[05:20] <Sakkath> Not saying I couldn't do it otherwise, just lazy. and i would have no clue what it's called :P
[05:21] <Sakkath> why the hell would it try to start cupsd??
[05:21] <surgy> Sakkath: check this out, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/174069
[05:21] <surgy> Sakkath:  maybe that helps?
[05:21] <kalorin> maybe you want to print something?
[05:21] <kalorin> :)
[05:21] <dick-richardson> I'd like to print something
[05:22] <dick-richardson> from my wife's mac to my ubuntu machine :P
[05:22] <Sakkath> kalorin: I fail to see how apt-get install dmraid would show any intentions of printing something (:
[05:22] <kalorin> or it wants to print something for you, maybe it's like one of those internet horror movies where whatever comes out of the printer it says you have 24 hours to live?
[05:22] <kalorin> two days ago on my workstation at work, I tried to get the USB stuff working with my ipod
[05:22] <kalorin> for whatever reason it decided to stop (turned out I needed to reboot my ipod)
[05:23] <kalorin> so i went to install the userspace usb manager
[05:23] <kalorin> it removed the kernel
[05:23] <kalorin> oh boy let me tell you, that was FUN FUN FUN!
[05:23] <Sakkath> surgy: well it didn't seem that bug was resolved, anyways i just removed cupsys, i don't need it (:
[05:24] <surgy> Sakkath:  so whats the goal here?
[05:24] <surgy> Sakkath: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:24] <kalorin> by the time it was over, I could have reinstalled, teh results would have been similar cause I put the kernel back, then went to remove that package and something else, the next thing I know, kde-core was gone along with openoffice and jsut about everything else
[05:24] <kalorin> it was a fun day or so putting that back together, very informations
[05:24] <kalorin> informational
[05:24] <Sakkath> surgy: install kubuntu successfully on 'fakeRAID' with a windows dual-boot (which is already installed)
[05:24] <kalorin> heh windows
[05:24] <kalorin> I stopped using that about a year ago now
[05:24] <surgy> Sakkath: i dont know anything about fakeraid, but i know a half dozen ways to get a dual boot system up
[05:25] <kalorin> for literally anything
[05:25] <Sakkath> kalorin: I game. That's it.
[05:25] <Sakkath> Simple answer (:
[05:25] <surgy> kubuntu can do anything windows can, just takes a little more work
[05:25] <kalorin> except at work I ahve a vmware instance for outlook and the informatica tools that we use
[05:25] <Sakkath> not call of duty 4
[05:25] <Sakkath> (:
[05:25] <kalorin> heh game
[05:25] <surgy> i play call of duty 3
[05:25] <kalorin> have some kids, you'll fix that habbit right away :)
[05:25] <Sakkath> lmao no one in the world plays cod3
[05:25] <Sakkath> i don't even know where you can buy it
[05:26] <Sakkath> cod2 is a different story
[05:26] <Sakkath> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[05:26] <Sakkath> bs
[05:26] <Sakkath> how come it showed the partition table for /dev/sda fine?
[05:26] <surgy> Sakkath:  cedega whould probably    do it, although it doesnt even have a wiki node yet
[05:27] <Sakkath> no, it wouldnt
[05:27] <Sakkath> (:
[05:27] <Sakkath> + i'm not spending the $ for a transgamer account
[05:27] <Sakkath> people always think they can get games workin in wine/cedega
[05:27] <Sakkath> they never do.
[05:27] <Sakkath> i couldn't even get turbotax installed.
[05:27] <kalorin> why on earth would anyone install turbotax?
[05:27] <kalorin> it's webbased now
[05:27] <issya> photoshop 7 and dreamweaver 2004 install and run great
[05:27] <Sakkath> kalorin: this wasn't this year
[05:27] <kalorin> who wants that bloat laying around mucking up things?
[05:28] <Sakkath> kalorin: and i don't do taxes, it was for my stepfather.
[05:28] <mantan> i left my machine for a week (turned off), it was using 1152x864 for rez. I came back and the thing is set at 1920x1440 and is all dicked. what happened
[05:28] <surgy> Sakkath:  http://www.cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9087 several of those guys made it work
[05:28] <Sakkath> I'm only 17 (:
[05:28] <Sakkath> surgy: yeah, with shitty sound and every-so-often crashes
[05:28] <Sakkath> I have steam version, not retail
[05:28] <kalorin> issya: I was using elements a lot and then discovered that I like gimp better actually
[05:28] <Sakkath> I doubt it's possible to get ALL Of the games I hve working
[05:28] <kalorin> just took a day or two using it to learn it a little bit more
[05:28] <Sakkath> it will work on mac first before inux
[05:28] <Sakkath> linux
[05:29] <kalorin> seems to be just as powerful for most photo type stuff
[05:29] <Sakkath> won't be full fps either
[05:29] <surgy> sakkath i could debat this in the propper channel, #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:29] <issya> kalorin: i just havent had the time yet to explore gimp. everytime I start to at work, it seems i can get it done faster in photoshop
[05:29] <Sakkath> god, why doesn't '/dev/sdb contain a valid partition table' that's such BS
[05:29] <ubuntu> is there an x ?
[05:29] <Sakkath> surgy: it's a pointless argument so i won't continue (:
[05:29] <kalorin> you should consider setting up xen there sakkath
[05:29] <surgy> sakkath :)
[05:30] <Sakkath> lol
[05:30] <Sakkath> xen?
[05:30] <Sakkath> how would that help me
[05:30] <kalorin> virtualization
[05:30] <Sakkath> i know what xen is
[05:30] <issya> vmware works well
[05:30] <kalorin> rather than dual booting jsut virtualize it
[05:30] <kalorin> vmware isn't fast though
[05:30] <kalorin> xen is almost native fast
[05:30] <Sakkath> kalorin: afaik you can't virtualize windows
[05:30] <Sakkath> lol
[05:30] <issya> i use it in a heavy working enviroment every day. no games though
[05:30] <kalorin> yeah me too
[05:31] <kalorin> outlook
[05:31] <issya> i dont think the 3d works well
[05:31] <ubuntu> 0o is there an x code 2 irc room?
[05:31] <kalorin> informatica tools
[05:31] <Sakkath> so um. can someone help? ;x
[05:31] <kalorin> can't say taht I've ever bothered with dual booting
[05:31] <ubuntu> im gettin my videog ame done first for my company
[05:31] <kalorin> I'd just make another machine personally
[05:31] <Sakkath> that's not even the problem atm
[05:32] <Sakkath> it's just getting fdisk to realize /dev/sdb obviously contains a valid partiton table
[05:32] <ubuntu> yay a machine perwsonality
[05:32] <kalorin> sakkath, if you type p does it print the partition table or no?
[05:32] <mantan>  i left my machine for a week (turned off), it was using 1152x864 for rez. I came back and the thing is set at 1920x1440 and is all dicked. now it won't let me change rez. wtf is going on?
[05:32] <kalorin> perhaps it's because of the fake raid thing
[05:32] <Sakkath> kalorin: not everyything is available when you are 17. especially a 2nd good gfx card to handle aiglx
[05:32] <Sakkath> kalorin: that's os-transparent
[05:32] <kalorin> not to linux
[05:32] <Sakkath> kalorin: only to 'help' windows.
[05:33] <Sakkath> kalorin: yes, to linux.
[05:33] <kalorin> if your'e talking about he motherboard stuff, it's not
[05:33] <Sakkath> to windows, not logically, physically yes
[05:33] <kalorin> or wasnt' a while back when I tried it
[05:33] <Sakkath> kalorin: it is, wanna bet on it? :)
[05:33] <kalorin> clearly it's working well for you
[05:33] <Sakkath> only real raid would be
[05:33] <Sakkath> kalorin: i've had experience
[05:33] <Sakkath> How else would I be able to hdparm both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?
[05:33] <kalorin> well, you're the expert then, why are you here asking us for help?
[05:33] <Sakkath> fdisk clearly distinguishes between the two
[05:34] <kalorin> right, if they're raided in a mirror, then how would you see two drives?
[05:34] <kalorin> perhasp I'm not understanding what you're saying you're having issue with
[05:34] <Sakkath> kalorin: I fail to see why /dev/sdb does not contain a vali dpartition table. i've never used fakeraid for linux, was about to, then learned about it's built-in software raid.
[05:34] <Sakkath> kalorin: because it's os-transparent
[05:34] <Sakkath> it should show NTFS anyways
[05:34] <Sakkath> i wouldn't think it's 'part' of a partition table
[05:34] <surgy> mantan: use this command to change you res "kdesu kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf" and look where it says "screen" you can edit it there, but remember to restart computer after the changes
[05:34] <Sakkath> and it's striped, anyways
[05:35] <kalorin> it's striped?
[05:35] <Sakkath> kalorin: i have to resize my partition (ntfsresize) then repartition with fdisk, then somenhow install it with this fakeraid guide.
[05:35] <kalorin> no idea what it'd make of that
[05:35] <Sakkath> kalorin: theoretically it should see it. linux sw raid will show both as the right partition type
[05:35] <Sakkath> the raid devices are different devices --/dev/mdn where n is an int
[05:35] <kalorin> depends where the partition table is written, if it's on the first drive first stripe then you wouldn't get a partition table on the 2nd drive
[05:36] <Sakkath> kalorin: i would have thought that wouldn't matter, but maybe with striped it would. i have no clue how windows does that
[05:36] <surgy> Sakkath: why not just run them in ide mode and use each hdd for a different os? make things easy on yourself
[05:36] <kalorin> linux is somewhat smarter tahn windows, and usually there's a windows driver of some kind you have to use don't you?
[05:36] <Sakkath> surgy: i don't need that much room for linux, i do need more than what an indiv. drive can give me for windows
[05:36] <Sakkath> kalorin: yes
[05:36] <Sakkath> it would be 'nvraid' on linux, i think
[05:37] <kalorin> sakkath, why not just do 2 partitions of one drive then, put linux on 1 and windows on the other
[05:37] <kalorin> then format the other drive vfat and use it for both :)
[05:37] <Sakkath> kalorin: because i've had windows on these drives for a very long time
[05:37] <surgy> sakkath i have a 10gb ide drive you can have if you pay for shipping
[05:37] <Sakkath> *sigh*
[05:37] <Sakkath> It's supposed to be possible.
[05:37] <kalorin> so is antigravity
[05:37] <kalorin> and wormholes
[05:37] <kalorin> :)
[05:37] <surgy> sakkath, probably is, its just not something people do unless its the last choice i think
[05:38] <Sakkath> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto <-- this is what i'm referring to by the way
[05:38] <kalorin> I'm not saying it's not, I'm saying I don't have a clue how you would
[05:39] <Sakkath> oh, and by the way: fdisk /dev/sdb shows *nothing*
[05:39] <kalorin> Your mileage may vary with other versions.
[05:39] <Sakkath> even if there is no filesystem on there, it still has to be partitioned somehow?
[05:39] <Sakkath> kalorin: well theor. things should not be too different, maybe just a few things.
[05:40] <kalorin> again, it depends on where it wrote the partition table
[05:40] <kalorin> I suspect it's on the 1st stripe of the 1st drive
[05:41] <Sakkath> i wouldn't think a drive would funct. properly without anything :/
[05:41] <kalorin> thus you see nothing that makes any sense on the 2nd drive
[05:41] <ubuntu> xc
[05:41] <Sakkath> but hey, i donno how windows does it.
[05:41] <ubuntu> ?
[05:41] <Sakkath> is this guide assuming everyone uses mirroring?
[05:41] <kalorin> might be
[05:41] <kalorin> I never use stripe sets
[05:41] <kalorin> performance is better I guess, but catastrophic data loss changes are doubled
[05:42] <kalorin> minimally raid 5 to stripe
[05:42] <Sakkath> sfdisk: ERROR: sector 0 does not have an msdos signature /dev/sdb: unrecognized partition table type
[05:42] <kalorin> never a pair of drives, it's just begging to lose everything
[05:42] <Sakkath> No partitions found
[05:42] <Sakkath> kalorin: don't jynx me, lol.
[05:42] <Sakkath> well, sfdisk shows slightly more than fdisk
[05:42] <kalorin> just saying
[05:42] <kalorin> I buy disks in pairs, and lazy mirror them
[05:43] <kalorin> unmount and spin one down when I'm not using it, every night at 4am or so I spin it up, mount it, rsync it, and spin it back down again
[05:43] <kalorin> then I have undelete for a day
[05:43] <kalorin> along with data integrity
[05:43] <kalorin> it's more expensive but I don't lose anything
[05:44] <Sakkath> i'm gonna have to ntfresize and use fdisk on the 2nd disk SOMEHOW. so there has to be a way to recognize that partition table
[05:46] <Sakkath> christ. i think because it's striped i've got no luck whatsoever.
[05:46] <Sakkath> windows xp can't resize a partition so how else cna i do it?
[05:46] <Sakkath> unless somehow i can d/l a util. for windows
[05:46] <Sakkath> if i can resize and make fdisk no something is there, i can repartition
[05:46] <kalorin> yeah good luck with that
[05:47] <Sakkath> vista has a resizer, meh.
[05:47] <Sakkath> why can't xp
[05:48] <Sakkath> hmm gparted is recognizing SOMETHING
[05:48] <Sakkath> (/dev/mapper/nvidia_something)
[05:49] <Sakkath> but still is hating /dev/sdb
[05:50] <Sakkath> i guess /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac is my striped partition
[05:50] <Sakkath> it shows /dev/sda and /dev/sdb as unallocated
[05:50] <Sakkath> 298.0GB
[05:50] <Sakkath> erm 298.10GiB. both sda and sdb say 145.05GiB
[05:50] <Sakkath> seems righ tto me.
[05:51] <Sakkath> then it shows /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac1 as unallocated, maybe just reserved for something else.
[05:51] <Sakkath> thought it shows 298.10 too
[05:51] <Sakkath> ntfsresize --info /dev/sda2
[05:52] <Sakkath> erm
[05:52] <Sakkath>     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:52] <Sakkath> /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac1   *           1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:52] <Sakkath> looks like i'm making progres.... doubt ntfsresize will work though.
[05:52] <Sakkath> oh! the 1 is the actual partition and the cegabeac w/out the 1 is just the 'disk' (logical)
[05:53] <gtt> Sakkath: if it doesnt, gparted works great.
[05:53] <Sakkath> gparted shows the cegabeac1 as  'unallocated' and only shows ntfs on 'cegabeac' (w/out 1)
[05:54] <Sakkath> i could fdisk this, but i can't ntfsresize if i can't read /dev/sdb!
[05:54] <Sakkath> maybe i just need to resize sda since that contains the partition table?
[05:54] <Sakkath> maybe that will work!
[05:54] <Sakkath> maybe i should get norton ghost first xD
[05:54] <Sakkath> wait--can i even back up a striped set?
[05:54] <Sakkath> lol just dd the harddrives into an archive onto a dvd xD
[05:57] <zheka__> ?
[05:58] <Sakkath> ghost only mirrored.
[06:14] <shadowh511> hello
[06:21] <surgy> shadowh511: HIYAS
[06:22] <whabo> hello is anyone here that can assist? with networking ? or sharing folders between computers?
[06:22] <surgy> !ask | whabo
[06:22] <ubotu> whabo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:22] <surgy> !samba | whabo
[06:22] <ubotu> whabo: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[06:31] <crackhead_25_> hey people, how is hardy looking? is it stable? is it good? lots of problems?
[06:34] <vzduch> !hardy | crackhead_25_
[06:34] <ubotu> crackhead_25_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:34] <Taros> I have a question about Gutsy.  Should I upgrade to it on my Acer laptop, or stick with Feisty?
[06:34] <crackhead_25_> vzduch: what's the console command for seeing info about which kubuntu version i have currently installed?
[06:35] <vzduch> you might wanna try 'cat /etc/ubuntu-version' or so
[06:36] <vzduch> 'cat /etc/ubuntu-release'
[06:36] <crackhead_25_> no such file
[06:37] <vzduch> then search for something in /etc/ that ends on 'release'
[06:38] <snarkster> ok so kicker is set to auto hide and then it hides and NEVER comes back.. wth is that all about?
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> lsb_release -a
[06:38] <Taros> uname -o
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> GNU/Linux
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> that's reeeeal helpful
[06:39] <snarkster> LOL
[06:39] <snarkster> uname -a
[06:39] <Daisuke-Ido> that's still just kernel info
[06:39] <snarkster> uname -a is everything
[06:40] <Daisuke-Ido> username, kernel, time, architecture, SMP, generic OS (GNU/Linux)
[06:40] <snarkster> what data are you looking for?
[06:40] <Daisuke-Ido> lsb_release -a is what he wants if he wants to know what version of ubuntu he's running.
[06:41] <snarkster> just look at /etc/release
[06:41] <snarkster> there is no release  in etc?
[06:41] <snarkster> youve got to be kidding.
[06:41] <Daisuke-Ido> so wouldn't a simple command he can type in be easier?
[06:42] <snarkster> how do you not know what version of ubuntu you installed?
[06:44] <snarkster> not being rude..
[06:45] <Taros> Does Gutsy have pretty good hardware support for Acer laptops, anyone know?
[06:45] <Taros> Compared to Feisty?
[06:45] <epimeth> good evenening guys...
[06:45] <snarkster> hmm what version?
[06:45] <Daisuke-Ido> depends, has asus started using better hardware?
[06:45] <epimeth> anyone connecting to a vpn using network manager?
[06:46] <epimeth> specifically, network-manager-kde (KNetworkManager) ?
[06:46] <snarkster> epimeth no but ive seen some howtos before
[06:46] <Taros> I've had no problems with hardware on my Acer.
[06:46] <epimeth> snarkster: wanna help me out? :-)
[06:46] <snarkster> epimeth: well um ill try but ive never done it before
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> -asus + acer
[06:47] <snarkster> ill do some searching for you
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> i've been futzing with the asus mobo in my fiancee's machine
[06:47] <epimeth> snarkster: I've done the searching
[06:47] <Taros> How's that working out?
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> other than the junk via chipset, pretty well
[06:48] <epimeth> snarkster: from what I gather, it should work in 7.10
[06:48] <epimeth> snarkster: it doesn't for me, but I have different simptoms than what others have
[06:49] <epimeth> basically, I get the vpn menu, but there is no 'create vpn' option.  the only option I get is "Disconnect VPN" and it is grayed out
[06:49] <snarkster> epimeth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-548565.html
[06:52] <epimeth> snarkster: I don't want to install gnome network manager.....
[06:52] <epimeth> grrrr
[06:52] <epimeth> you wouldn't happen to know what a vpn's configuration file looks like for network manager and/or where it is kept, would you?
[06:52] <epimeth> :-)
[06:52] <epimeth> I'll create one manually
[06:52] <greg> is kde4-core broken for anyone else?
[06:53] <vzduch> define 'broken'
[06:53] <epimeth> greg: I'm with vzduch
[06:53] <greg> it won't install...everything was working fine until a couple of days ago
[06:53] <greg> it depends on kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime, and kdebase-workspace which aren't installable
[06:54] <epimeth> greg: did you add the repository?
[06:54] <greg> on hardy
[06:54] <greg> i have http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu
[06:54] <epimeth> oh.. on hardy... can't help you there :-)
[06:54] <vzduch> greg: Hardy --> #ubuntu+1
[06:54] <greg> okay
[06:55] <sigma> hardy is still under construction, expect alot of broken things!
[06:56]  * Daisuke-Ido grumbles about wine and photoshop
[06:56] <Daisuke-Ido> and the first person to say gimp gets a boot to the head
[06:57] <epimeth> gimp!
[06:57] <snarkster> yah I know, but knetwork manager and gnome manager are almost the same
[06:57] <snarkster> gimp ;)
[06:57]  * Daisuke-Ido waggles a finger
[06:57] <Daisuke-Ido> boot to the head
[06:57] <snarkster> :P
[06:58] <epimeth> snarkster: yea, so I figure I'll create my own conf files, maybe... just dunno where they are kept or what they look like... tho they are probably identical to the regular vpnc ones
[06:58] <snarkster> gimp is awesome
[06:58] <epimeth> hay!  that was supposed to be *my* boot!
[06:58] <epimeth> gimme!
[06:58] <Daisuke-Ido> and another one for epimeth
[06:58] <epimeth> w00t!
[06:58]  * epimeth is happy
[06:58]  * epimeth has always wanted a headboot
[06:59]  * epimeth puts it on backwards
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> the scary thing is that you probably know what i'm talking about >_>
[06:59] <serga> !mp3
[06:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:59] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: about photoshop, no... but grumbling about wine is a favorite pasttime of mine
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> no, about the boot to the head thing
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, CS2 loads fine
[07:01] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: maybe... what *are* you talking about?
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> a canadian comedy troupe did a bit about the reading of a rich man's will
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> and some enterprising second-person potato decided to add graphics from the phoenix wright game
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> ...i mean youtuber
[07:03] <dgeorge> hello all i have a few questions
[07:03] <dgeorge> anyone around at the moment
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> and i have even fewer answers
[07:03] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: Kids in the Hall (or something like that)/
[07:03] <snarkster> nah no one here
[07:03] <dgeorge> how do i add a wireless network montior to the menu bar
[07:03] <dgeorge> and how do i add gmail to the menu bar
[07:04] <snarkster> kids in the hall was an awesome show when i was a teen
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> actually it was the frantics
[07:05] <Daisuke-Ido> the menu bar?  are we talking about the same desktop environment here?
[07:06] <snarkster> epimeth: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-networkmanager/2006-June/000008.html
[07:06] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: right... sorry. not a clue :-)
[07:06] <dgeorge> yes kde
[07:07] <dgeorge> how do i add gmail to it
[07:09] <epimeth> snarkster: are you kidding? those posts are almost 2 years old and these things aren't fixed yet?
[07:09] <epimeth> grrrr
[07:10] <epimeth> dgeorge: add gmail to kde?  you just go to gmail.com.....
[07:10] <epimeth> gmail is a web app, not a desktop app
 whataya want?? im just doing searches to assist you. LOL
[07:11] <dgeorge> ok then why have i seen screen shots of the gmail icon up in the upper right corner of the screen
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: fancy work with ms paint
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> next question please!
[07:11] <dgeorge> daisuke that is not helpful
[07:11] <snarkster> goto kde-apps
[07:12] <dgeorge> next willing helper
[07:12] <snarkster> do a search for gmail notifier I think

[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: i'm perfectly willing to help someone who's not belligerent
[07:12] <snarkster> Im still baffled by the lack of a /etc/release
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> snarkster: it's in /etc/lsb-release
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> but yeah, i understand what you mean
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: just for reference, can you point me to one of those screenshots?  i'm curious to see if it's a notifier applet, or just a fancy link to mail.google.com
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now i remember why i hate totem
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> it has no option on what to use for video rendering
[07:23] <snarkster> still cant get my damn webcam working either
[07:23] <snarkster> what a pain in the tookus
[07:28] <TeslaTony> Hello
[07:28] <dgeorge> is kde-apps down
[07:28] <snarkster> its something
[07:28] <ahmos> hello,I have aproblem here..I can't open adept manager because I have added a wrong repository as I think ..so how to delete it again..?!!
[07:28] <snarkster> kde-apps is a pain in the tookus
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: i think it must be, i was having trouble a few hours ago
[07:29] <noaXess> !dvr-ms
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvr-ms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <snarkster> just edit the repo list in /etc/apt
[07:30] <dgeorge> cool
[07:30] <dgeorge> i can't get on at all
[07:38] <ahmos> Thank's snarkster..I've fixed it ;)
[07:39] <internat85> Hi, with kde, how do i setup vnc so that i can connect to the existing session?
[07:42] <kiefer> Hey all :)
[07:43] <kiefer> Anyone alive?
[07:45] <snarkster> Ahmos: cool if I helped you
[07:46] <Taros> What's the command to tell which sda devices are what?
[07:49] <ere4si> mount Taros
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Taros: already mounted?
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> df -h
[07:51] <Taros> Yeah.
[07:55] <Taros> fdisk -l was what I was looking for, thanks.  :)
[08:16] <jester105> jamman105
[08:17] <kiefer> I need assistance, anyone home? :)
[08:17] <ahmos> hello, I've installe clamtk virus scanner and trid o update it ..but it aked me to be a root,so how I can do this plz?
[08:17] <jester105> kiefer: im here
[08:17] <jester105> ahmos: use sudo, ie "sudo freshclam"
[08:18] <ahmos> o yhank's
[08:18] <ahmos> ok thank's
[08:19] <ahmos> but is there another way...just too know
[08:19] <jester105> ahmos: log in as root? that could work, but.... you have to set the root password. ubuntu doesnt set up root as default
[08:21] <kiefer> Jester, Could you help me out?
[08:22] <jester105> kiefer: sure thing
[08:22] <kiefer> Cheers :), Heres my issue:
[08:22] <ahmos> Thank's alot Jester105
[08:22] <jester105> mhmmmm.... any time ahmos
[08:22] <kiefer> Im running Kubntu 7.10, installed it yesterday (Im a linux newb, migrated from WinXP ^_^)
[08:22] <ahmos> ;)
[08:23] <kiefer> and whenever I open a .deb file
[08:23] <kiefer> i click 'install' and it asks for my pass, which i enter, the PC slows down and lags up
[08:23] <kiefer> then the .deb installer reappears all greyed out
[08:23] <kiefer> and closes, without installing anything
[08:23] <jester105> hmmm....
[08:24] <jester105> kiefer: if all else fails, theres always the command line/terminal
[08:24] <kiefer> Lol, true
[08:24] <kiefer> But
[08:24] <kiefer> When I try to compile some things
[08:24] <kiefer> I get errors, errors that to me look like C++/C errors (stdio.h could nto be found etc)
[08:24] <kiefer> not*
[08:25] <kiefer> So im guessing im missing some header files lol :(
[08:25] <jester105> kiefer: ok, well... do you have the build-essentials package installed?
[08:25] <kiefer> Umm, not sure, I havnt installed it myself, so im guessing not
[08:25] <jester105> kiefer: yeah, install that and you should be good
[08:26] <freepenguin> now I've finally the page of ubuntu free penguin edition: http://www.freepenguin.it/ubuntufp-download-en.html
[08:26] <kiefer> jester: cheers, 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' ?
[08:27] <jester105> kiefer: exactly! haha... you're no noob, to be honest
[08:28] <kiefer> Haha, Im studying for a diploma in IT (Programming & Software Dev.) then moving onto a degree, so im fairly computer literate ^_^
[08:28] <jester105> freepenguin: checking out your site....
[08:28] <jester105> kiefer: thats awesome! that feild will nearly always bee there, i think
[08:28] <kiefer> Haha we can only hope
[08:28] <kiefer> Thanks for your advice mate :)
[08:29] <kiefer> Oh, one more thing
[08:29] <jester105> kiefer: shoot away
[08:29] <kiefer> Kopete always 'stops-responding' (Sorry for the Windows term lol) whenever i try to log in using MSN Protocol
[08:30] <jester105> what are your specs?
[08:30] <jester105> cause i noticed that on my 600 mhz p3 it would do that
[08:30] <kiefer> Acer travelmate 520 Laptop, Pent 2 800mhz (Dont laugh lol)
[08:30] <jester105> haha.... exactly! try using pidgin ( i know, i know.. ewwww....)
[08:30] <kiefer> Lmao, cheers
[08:31] <ahmos> hey Jester sorry but i still get tat there is no virus definitions are found when I open that program
[08:31] <jester105> ahmos: so you did the update definitions command?
[08:31] <ahmos> yes
[08:32] <ahmos> that u had sent to me
[08:32] <kiefer> jester: Uh-Oh.. "E: Couldn't find package build-essentials"
[08:33] <jester105> kiefer: i might've spelled it wrong
[08:33] <kiefer> Just googled it for 'did-you-mean'
[08:33] <kiefer> correct spelling lol
[08:33] <jester105> ahmos:  i was just guessing as to what it might be. im not 100% sure
[08:34] <jester105> kiefer: hmmmm.... well, in that case, i think you need to enable multiverse/etc
[08:35] <kiefer> 'build-essential' (No 's') got error "build-essential is already the newest version."
[08:35] <ahmos> could u take a look plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54431/
[08:36] <jester105> alright... kiefer i think that it looks like you have it installed already
[08:36] <jester105> ahmos: ok, so you are using clamav?
[08:37] <kiefer> Lol cheers jester, ill try compile something and ill let you know about the errors :)
[08:37] <ahmos> clamtk antivirus
[08:37] <jester105> kiefer: sounds good. if you have that package installed, it should take care of the hearders and such
[08:37] <jester105> ahmos: i dont know much about clamtk... try googling it
[08:38] <ahmos> ok ...thank's again... :o
[08:39] <jester105> ahmos: sure thing. i would google it myself, but im about to turn in
[08:40] <ahmos> god bless you
[08:40] <jester105> ahmos: anything for a fellow linux user :)
[08:40] <ubuntu> anyone familiar with KDE 4gusty?
[08:41] <ahmos> :0
[08:41] <jester105> ubuntu: meh..... so so
[08:41] <ubuntu> I got most the bugs out but want to configure Ati and not like any I have tried before
[08:42] <ubuntu> not sure I can
[08:42] <kiefer> Jester: are you familiar with FrostWire?
[08:42] <jester105> kiefer: ummmm.... not really. its a p2p program, right?
[08:43] <jester105> ubuntu: meaning? you wanna reconfigure x for resolution changes?
[08:43] <ahmos> I had a problem with frostwire yesterday and the strangest thing lime wire worked properly...ha ha...
[08:43] <ubuntu> jconfigure so it will have 3d and vidio out put
[08:43] <jester105> ahmos: hm.... thats quite odd. did you try running it from the terminal?
[08:43] <kiefer> Jester: Yeah p2p, I was just gonna ask if you knew where i could find the source to compile (No .deb files for me lol )
[08:43] <ubuntu> aticonfig seems to bedisconected
[08:44] <ahmos> yes and it was a problem of java
[08:44] <jester105> ubuntu: umm.... yeah, i havent ever used ati, to be honest
[08:44] <ol_dude67> kiefer, you can get the source from there website
[08:44] <ubuntu> I have played with many just not as much control on KDE 4
[08:44] <ubuntu> but it is one heck of a system
[08:44] <kiefer> dude: oh, cheers - Seems im going blind lol
[08:45] <ol_dude67> kiefer, i use slack alot and that is how you have to install it.
[08:45] <jester105> ubuntu: yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is the link you want
[08:46] <kiefer> Is there a terminal command to check java version?
[08:47] <jester105> java -v?
[08:47] <ol_dude67> na i just tried that .
[08:47] <kiefer> "hava --version"
[08:47] <kiefer> java*
[08:47] <kiefer> :)
[08:47] <kiefer> Lol, prob should have tried that before asking *slaps head*
[08:47] <ol_dude67> ya thats it i couldnt remember how i checked.
[08:48] <jester105> kiefer: see, now youre the one helping. hahaha
[08:48] <kiefer> Jester: hahaha, Im adapting to the Linux enviroment ^_^
[08:48] <ahmos> you can configure java by sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:49] <dsmith_> do I need to restart after I reinstall flash 9?
[08:49] <dsmith_> somehow flash got messed up
[08:49] <kiefer> ahmos:cheers :D
[08:49] <dsmith_> so I reinstalled it but its not working
[08:49] <jester105> dsmith_: hahaha.... no. just restart firefox and you'll be fine
[08:49] <dsmith_> thats what I did
[08:49] <dsmith_> I know haha
[08:49] <dsmith_> :)
[08:49] <dsmith_> hmmm
[08:49] <dsmith_> starnge
[08:49] <dsmith_> *strange
[08:49] <ahmos> thank's god I know something :D
[08:50] <jester105> dsmith_: well, log out and back in. or, just restart. haha...
[08:50] <dsmith_> typically I should never have to do that
[08:50] <ubuntu> ssure it is the right flash 9?
[08:50] <ubuntu> more than one
[08:50] <dsmith_> its the one that is installed from firefox
[08:50] <ubuntu> k
[08:50] <dsmith_> so I am assuming such
[08:50] <ubuntu> I have tried many before I get the one
[08:51] <kiefer> Argh, I keep getting a box pop up "unknown - KDE crash handler"  (the app. "unknown" [nspluginviewer], crashed and caused signal 11 [SIGSEGV])
[08:51] <ubuntu> check there aaare more
[08:51] <dsmith_> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115
[08:51] <ahmos> we all have those crash handlers
[08:51] <dsmith_> yea ts installed but youtube is not working darn
[08:52] <jester105> dsmith_: go to the terminal and run "sudo killall firefox"
[08:52] <kiefer> ahmos: do we? lmao - is a crash handler like 'not responding' ? (native Windows dweller at your service lol)
[08:53] <ubuntu> like a fuse
[08:53] <dsmith_> no proceses
[08:53] <dsmith_> none running in the background
[08:53] <ahmos> :D
[08:53] <noname> err... Hello, what archiving software is there for linux? I really don't like Ark much...
[08:54] <dsmith_> sbackup?
[08:54] <ere4si> tar.gz
[08:54] <dsmith_> well that too
[08:54] <kiefer> Brb all, Need a smoke lol - all this work is tiring me out >,<
[08:54] <noname> i mean not gui tools
[08:54] <noname> oh
[08:54] <noname> *gui tools*
[08:54] <noname> not console
[08:55] <jester105> noname: ummm.... yeah, ive got nothing for that.
[08:55] <jester105> there is.... keep, i think
[08:55] <ere4si> there's mondo and mindi
[08:55] <noname> thx i'll look for those
[08:55] <dbmood1> hello cupsys wants to use kerberos encryption anyway to turn that off ?
[08:55] <hola> is it possibile to join ppp0 to a bridge
[08:56] <jester105> hola: yes. how, im not 100% sure
[08:56] <dbmood1> and i'm not a root user
[08:56] <hola> jester105: i tried but it doesnt work
[08:57] <hola> jester105: my virtual machine does not see internet connection
[08:57] <jester105> hola: well, thats a setup in vmware or what not
[08:58] <hola> jester105: im using virualbox
[08:59] <jester105> ok, ummmm.... yeah, i dont know jack about virtual machines... all i know is that in the etherenet settings or what not, you can set up a bridge
[08:59] <ol_dude67> well i dont remember to much about setting up virtualbox. but i do know you can set changes like that in vmware.
[09:00] <ol_dude67> its been to long since i messed with virtualbox
[09:00] <jester105> ol_dude67: haha... i feel ya, i feel ya
[09:00] <hola> my ppp0 address is <IP_ADDRESS> and the br0 adress is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:02] <ahmos> hey jester kiefer bye for now....
[09:02] <jester105> ahmos: see ya
[09:02] <ahmos> r u here every day at this time jester?
[09:03] <jester105> ahmos: haha.... no, rarely this late. only on the weekends. its 2 am where i am. but i should be on this late tomarrow
[09:03] <ol_dude67> hola, that sounds about like my router settings.
[09:03] <ahmos> ok Good luck and i hope to meet u again..:D
[09:04] <ahmos> bye
[09:04] <jester105> ahmos: see ya
[09:05] <t_maus> hi guys, can somebody tell me how i can make my mailserver safe, because i think that somebody uses my mailserver as a spamserver ( and i am not happy about that ^^), so is there a chance to make my postfix safe ?
[09:05] <jester105> t_maus: i am thinking the same thing about mine as well
[09:06] <t_maus> and you dont have a solution ?
[09:06] <jester105> t_maus: wait, scratch that. i know i have iptables configured.... what you can do is set up your firewall to let only local traffic in.
[09:06] <jester105> like, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 or what not
[09:06] <hola> ol_dude67: the problem is thet virtual machine does not see <IP_ADDRESS> but only the host adress <IP_ADDRESS>, why
[09:06] <jester105> for your smtp server
[09:07] <t_maus> in the moment the server ist completly free ( without firewall ) that could be an idea so only the ports to open iam needing for the "daily work"
[09:09] <jester105> t_maus: wait, you have no firewall at all on it?
[09:09] <jester105> baaaaaaaadddddddddd plan!
[09:09] <t_maus> not on my webserver / mailserver
[09:09] <t_maus> i have a firewall on the router
[09:09] <t_maus> but i seems to be very open ;)
[09:09] <ol_dude67> halo, like i said its been forever since i have set up virtualbox but let me see if i can find you some help.
[09:10] <ol_dude67> halo, try asking in #virtualbox
[09:10] <ol_dude67> i just checked and there is a channel.
[09:11] <jester105> t_maus: yeah, be sure to set up iptables!
[09:11] <t_maus> k i will do it now :D
[09:12] <ol_dude67> ya that was the first thing i did on my router box was put in a firewall.
[09:13] <jester105> ol_dude67: not just on my router, but before i even plugged my server into an ethernet cable, i did it
[09:14] <ol_dude67> well i had to have help setting up my router box as i didnt know how to do it, so the guy who helped me showed me how to make a firewall as we were setting it up.
[09:14] <jester105> ol_dude67: i downloaded a script for my iptables :)
[09:15] <kadam> oh noes!  I just installed Kubuntu on a secondary drive.  When I rebooted it went to Windows, so in the bios I set it to boot to the Linux drive.  When I do that, I see GRUB, but it stops with an error 21.  Does anyone know how to fix this or what it means?
[09:15] <ol_dude67> well i had to have ipforwarding for my 2 desktops, and all so i started fresh with mine.
[09:16] <jester105> ol_dude67: ipforwarding? like, sharing the same ip?
[09:16] <ol_dude67> but i learned alot about firewalls that way.
[09:16] <ol_dude67> ya i have 3 boxes and one just is a router.
[09:16] <jester105> kadam: i would say..... switch back to the windows one? i dunno
[09:18] <kadam> jester105: Do you know how I'd install GRUB on the Windows drive?  It's a hardware RAID0 array...
[09:18] <jester105> hmm.... let me seee..... ummmm... get the alternate cd, and boot into it
[09:18] <jester105> go to the last step in the menu thingy, and install grub that way
[09:19] <jester105> if that made sense
[09:19] <ol_dude67> kadam, chances are you should of installed grub to the boot drive anyways.
[09:20] <jester105> kadam: actually, to be honest, id just reinstall. it would work better that way, i think
[09:20] <ol_dude67> jester105, it made sense to me.:D
[09:20] <jester105> ol_dude67: thats probably cause you've done it before! hahaha
[09:20] <ol_dude67> ya i have.lmao
[09:20] <kadam> ol_dude67: I dont' know if it was an option to select another drive.  I actually hoped I could just install to the new drive and make IT the new bootable drive 8)
[09:21] <kadam> so, hda0...
[09:21] <jester105> kadam: you can, but you have to select that drive to have grub install it to
[09:22] <kadam> jester105: Alright.  I'll just reinstall tomorrow morning and install GRUB to the MBR.  I'm jsut scared 8) hehe...  I need Windows for work... blegh...
[09:22] <kadam> alright, well, until then, good night!
[09:22] <jester105> kadam: if all else fails, theres always your xp cd that you can use and "FIXMBR"
[09:23] <kadam> jester105: You mean, if installing GRUB to my main drive causes issues?
[09:23] <ol_dude67> kadam, yeah,
[09:23] <jester105> kadam: exactly. if you do that, then boot into the recovery thing, you can just fix the mbr. as the command suggests
[09:23] <ol_dude67> my tab key sucks, it wont let me do the short cut.
[09:24] <kadam> Beautiful, thanks again!
[09:24] <jester105> kadam: no problem
[09:24] <jester105> k guys, its been grand chatting, but i need to go now!
[09:24] <jester105> haha... i can hardly keep my eyes open
[09:24] <hyper__ch> anyone knows why miro quits with this error?  /usr/bin/python2.5: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: PR_NewMonitor
[09:24] <ol_dude67> laters
[09:26] <sigma_1234> sounds like a bug. miro is still under development
[09:26] <hyper__ch> seems it runs for others :(
[09:27] <ol_dude67> i was gonna say i dont know a dang thing about java other then i have it.
[09:28] <dsmith__> yea something is wrong with flash on my system, I went so far as to pull a backup and install it and its still not working
[09:28] <sigma_1234> i didnt know it used java
[09:28] <sigma_1234> !flash
[09:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[09:28] <hyper__ch> there's a uuforums thread
[09:29] <sigma_1234> i think flash only works in hardy
[09:29] <sigma_1234> how do i set arial as my fixed width font?
[09:30] <ol_dude67> sigma_1234, thats not true, i did the update for the flash on mine and its working and im on gutsy
[09:31] <sigma_1234> oh i dont use flash so i really wouldnt know
[09:32] <ol_dude67> well i might of installed mine by hand before the update i dont remember.it may still be broken.
[09:33] <hyper__ch> I read on uuforums flash is fixed again in the repos (the gpg key)
[09:33] <ol_dude67> ok then i was right..lol
[09:34] <ol_dude67> dsmith_, does it give you an error?
[09:34] <ol_dude67> oh well
[09:35] <dsmith__> no
[09:35] <dsmith__> did they make changes to flash?
[09:35] <ol_dude67> oh i thought you logout.
[09:35] <dsmith__> why all of a sudden it does not work
[09:35] <dsmith__> I did earlier
[09:35] <dsmith__> then did a restore of plugins in .mozilla
[09:37] <dsmith__> hmmm flash doesn't work on either fx or konq
[09:37] <dsmith__> qtf
[09:37] <dsmith__> Wtf
[09:39] <NickPresta> !flash | dsmith__
[09:39] <ubotu> dsmith__: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[09:42] <dsmith__> I am going to purge flash
[09:42] <xenobius> heya
[09:43] <xenobius> i'm shopping for a linux compatable vid card... i was wondering, does anyone have any idea how to determine relative speed of graphics acceleration ?
[09:44]  * ScorpKing waves..
[09:44] <dsmith__> xenobius: stick with nvidia
[09:44] <sub[t]rnl> heya ScorpKing
[09:44] <ScorpKing> :) hiya sub[t]rnl
[09:45] <dsmith__> now whats is better install the flash plugin from firefox? or from the repos?
[09:46] <ScorpKing> !sound > me
[09:47] <ScorpKing> dsmith__: i've installed it from firefox
[09:50] <dsmith__> ok
[09:51] <iltse> hi, i'm having a problem installing the fglrx drivers. no matter the way i install them (with envy, with adept or well basically any of the suggestions in http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI i always end up in the situation that when i reboot the system hangs when x starts, and before you say "try ctrl+alt+Fx" those don't do anything. the system is
[09:51] <dsmith__> i've never had this much trouble before
[09:51] <iltse>  completely unresponsive and the only thing to do is to reboot again to recovery and reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[09:53] <val0> are there hd management tools that will allow me to delete a ntfs partion and then join it with the linux one?
[09:58] <sui> hi
[09:59] <jussi01> val0: as long as you dont want to keep the data
[10:01] <val0> jussi01: nope, going to join the partitions and run vm machine
[10:01] <sigma> which file in /etc/ stores the configuration for a wireless network?
[10:01] <val0> just wondering if there is a tool like partition magic
[10:01] <jussi01> val0: qparted
[10:01] <jussi01> !info qparted
[10:01] <ubotu> Package qparted does not exist in gutsy
[10:01] <jussi01> !info qtparted
[10:01] <ubotu> qtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[10:01] <jussi01> there we are
[10:03] <dsmith__> ok I got flash working agin
[10:03] <dsmith__> I had to dl'd from the adobe website
[10:04] <dsmith__> http://benjaminlim.net/blog/?p=15
[10:04] <dsmith__> that explains it
[10:04] <dsmith__> sorta
[10:04] <jussi01> dsmith__: you do know there is a .deb that works on the forums, as well as a use at your own risk in the -proposed repo?
[10:04] <jussi01> !flash
[10:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[10:04] <dsmith__> i tried all that
[10:05] <jussi01> dsmith__: even the update in the -proposed repository?
[10:05] <dsmith__> something's changed from yesterday to tonight with flash I dont know what it is, but youtube was working last night
[10:05] <dsmith__> no
[10:05] <dsmith__> i got it working now
[10:06] <dsmith__> thanks for the help
[10:06] <dsmith__> I will retry the .drb though
[10:06] <dsmith__> .deb, on a new install
[10:07] <dsmith__> i'd hate to be setting up a clients PC and have to explain to them that their *buntu box dont work with flash
[10:09] <anarko> d1 a todos
[10:11] <val0> jussi01: thanks :D
[10:11] <sigma> but the flash download from adobe.com works just fine
[10:16] <kaminix> Will there be ways to convert the KWordQuiz vocab files to Parley when it's done?
[10:17] <kaminix> * when I install KDE 4
[10:21] <hari> .
[10:21] <vzduch> ..
[10:21] <jpatrick> morning gentlemen and ladies!
[10:22] <jpatrick> that would of been bettter the other way round..
[10:22] <kaminix> I would have :p
[10:22] <JoshOvki> morning jpatrick. you seem i an awfully good mood
[10:23] <jpatrick> JoshOvki: better than ".", ".." ;)
[10:23] <dsmith_> hmmmm only certain videos on youtube will play
[10:23] <JoshOvki> its morning, how can anyone be happy in the morning!
[10:23] <vzduch> *gg*
[10:23]  * dsmith_ is clueless
[10:23] <dsmith_> :/
[10:24] <jpatrick> dsmith_: it must be testing your taste
[10:24] <JoshOvki> dsmithL do all other sites that use flash work ok?
[10:25] <kaminix> Open XML file format (shared with KWordQuiz, Kanagram and KHangMan) that can be edited by hand and is easily usable with scripts <--- means I can use KWordQuiz files with Parley?
[10:25] <dsmith_> ummmm whats another heavy flash site?
[10:25] <dsmith_> jpatrick: haha
[10:25] <JoshOvki> dsmith_ ummm, you in the uk?
[10:26] <jpatrick> JoshOvki: america by the looks of his hostname
[10:26] <dsmith_> USA
[10:26] <dergringo> hi
[10:26] <JoshOvki> i was going to suggest   www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer   but i think its UK only
[10:27] <JoshOvki> is google video's still alive?
[10:27] <dergringo> I heard that hardy comes along with kde4. Fine. But the pre releases still install kde3 per default. Will that be changed? Will hardy come with kde4 enabled?
[10:28] <jpatrick> dergringo: it's the target for the next alpha
[10:29] <dergringo> jpatrick: ahh I see. Thanks :)
[10:29] <JoshOvki> i was going to try hardy not long ago, but there was a problem with my download which ment i couldnt access anything
[10:30] <dsmith_> google video seems to play fine
[10:30] <JoshOvki> dsmith_: so its just youtube :s   try clearing cache, and was browser you using?
[10:31] <dsmith_> firefox
[10:33] <dsmith_> let me check, but clearing the cach e mau have worked
[10:34] <dsmith_> yep, that worked thanks
[10:34] <dsmith_> JoshOvki:
[10:34] <dsmith_> I've had issues with cache in firefox before, but nothing like that
[10:34] <dsmith_> wow
[10:34] <dsmith_> so it was never a flash issue at all
[10:34] <JoshOvki> dsmith_  working ok now then?:)
[10:35] <dsmith_> yep
[10:36] <JoshOvki> excelent news
[10:36] <JoshOvki> brb all
[10:36] <dsmith_> i was thinking something else
[10:40] <JoshOvki> miss me?
[10:40] <kiefer> Hey all :)
[10:45] <jono> hey
[10:46] <jpatrick> hi jono
[10:46] <jono> hey jpatrick
[10:47] <jono> hows it going?
[10:47] <jpatrick> jono: not bad at all
[10:47] <jussi01> gday jono  :)
[10:48] <jpatrick> got some packages in Debian yesterday
[10:48] <jono> heya jussi01
[10:49] <jono> :)
[10:51] <kiefer> Hrmm my wireless signal keeps dropping out, and my wireless base is right next to me :S
[10:51] <Hobbsee> hi jono
[10:51] <jono> hey Hobbsee
[10:52]  * Hobbsee disagrees with your blog post.
[10:52] <enry> hello
[10:52] <jussi01> !hi | enry
[10:52] <ubotu> enry: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:53] <kiefer> Hehe in 'Jonny English' they make August the 5th a national holiday, thats my b-day ^_^
[10:53] <jpatrick> !ot > kiefer
[10:53] <sebastian^> good morning all
[10:54] <kiefer> jpatric: Understood :)
[10:54] <kiefer> jpatrick*
[10:55] <cxd110> hello
[10:55] <ibou> hi
[10:55] <kiefer> Can anyone suggest a good python IDE?
[10:56] <ibou> hi
[10:56] <kiefer> Hello :)
[10:56] <jussi01> kiefer: eclipse
[10:56] <cxd110> eclipse
[10:56] <Jucato> !find eric
[10:56] <ubotu> Found: gnumeric, gnumeric-common, gnumeric-doc, gnumeric-gtk, gnumeric-plugins-extra (and 43 others)
[10:56] <Jucato> hm...
[10:56] <kiefer> Eclipse has a Python plugin?
[10:56] <jussi01> !info eclipse | kiefer
[10:56] <ubotu> kiefer: eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:56] <jussi01> kiefer: certainly does
[10:56] <kiefer> Ah well, cheers
[10:56] <jussi01> :)
[10:56] <Jucato> !info eric
[10:56] <ubotu> eric (source: eric): full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.5-1 (gutsy), package size 1907 kB, installed size 11460 kB
[10:56] <kiefer> ive been using Eclipse for 6 odd months for Java
[10:57] <kiefer> Anyone suggest a good python newb tutorial?
[10:58] <Jucato> !info diveintopython
[10:58] <cxd110> who is from china???
[10:58] <ubotu> diveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[10:58] <Jucato> bah not newb...
[10:58] <kiefer> Lol, no that sounds perfecr
[10:58] <kiefer> perfect*
[10:58] <kiefer> I know C, C++, and Java, so im partially experienced lol
[10:58] <sigma> can kubuntu access wireless networks that require a 28 digit access key to join?
[11:00] <kiefer> Umm, is Adept Installer like Add/Remove [Ubuntu] for Kubuntu? (Me=Linux newb :) )
[11:00] <Jucato> yep
[11:00] <kiefer> Is there a way to un-gey-out the yet-to-be-installed packages?
[11:01] <kiefer> grey*
[11:02] <sigma> !wep
[11:02] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:02] <kiefer> Dont worry, Figured out what im doing with Adept
[11:03] <kiefer> WEP = Weak & Unsecure.
[11:05] <sigma> kiefer: how do you setup kubuntu for WPA if the network manager only accepts WEP keys?
[11:06] <kiefer> dont use NetworkManager
[11:07] <kiefer> (Im fairly new to Linux - I wouldnt recomend asking me for advice)
[11:08] <sigma> !info wpasupplicant
[11:08] <ubotu> wpasupplicant (source: wpasupplicant): Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.6.0+0.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 648 kB
[11:09] <kiefer> Ty sigma :)
[11:09] <sui> theres a good howto on the web
[11:10] <sigma> sui: you mean this one? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu#head-eb83784f0d238e9fd0de695f90911e4ceea4b7e5
[11:13] <sui> sigma: oh, that's a good one too ;) i used a german howto on ubuntuusers.de  (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/wpa_supplicant)
[11:14] <iltse> hi, could someone help me with the fglrx drivers? getting a bit frustrated with them.
[11:15] <jussi01> iltse: have you followed the instructions under !ati ?
[11:15] <jussi01> !ati
[11:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:16] <iltse> yes
[11:16] <iltse> even tried with envy and http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[11:17] <iltse> the problem is that every time fglrx drivers are enabled the system hangs at the point where i should get the login screen
[11:18] <odra> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:19] <odra> hi t00r
[11:21] <JoshOvki> i have got myself addicted to a KDE4 game, called   knetwalk
[11:22] <ibou> what does mplayer-nogui add to kmplayer ?
[11:22] <JoshOvki> it allows you to control songs through terminal
[11:22] <ibou> oh ok
[11:22] <JoshOvki> hence the  "nogui" at then end  (gui = graphical user iterface)
[11:23] <ibou> ah ok thanks
[11:23] <JoshOvki> :)
[11:23] <ibou> :D
[11:33] <sigma> where does kubuntu store WEP network keys?
[11:36] <d_mitry> what is the command to mount an ntfs partition?
[11:37] <ubuntu> could somebody please tell me how to remove kubuntu from my computer because i took 150gb for it from my harddrive
[11:37] <ere4si> ubuntu: you just format the drive
[11:37] <ubuntu> but does that mean i loose windows too_
[11:37] <ubuntu> ?
[11:38] <ere4si> ubuntu: just format the partition with ubuntu and swap on it
[11:38] <slow-motion> hi
[11:38] <ubuntu> okay:)
[11:38] <ubuntu> how do i do that btw?
[11:39] <zxy_64> hi, which repository do i need to install ia32-libs-gtk  on 64bit 7.10 kubuntu -- adept doesn't see it
[11:39] <ere4si> ubuntu: put your windows disk in and restart - it will let you format the partitions
[11:39] <ubuntu> okay cool i will do that, thanks
[11:40] <ere4si> zxy_64, I would enable universe and multiverse in synaptic
[11:41] <zxy_64> why synptic, is adept not ok
[11:41] <zxy_64> i don't really like mixing tools
[11:42]  * zxy_64 trying ...
[11:43] <zxy_64> ere4si: i have this epos alredy checked out
[11:43] <zxy_64> epos/repos
[11:44] <ere4si> you can search in synaptic or apt for it zxy_64  - apt-cache search (application) I think
[11:45] <romunov> can anyone notice any abnormalities? http://pastebin.com/d68fd20bb
[11:46] <romunov> should the first line be hashed out like that?
[11:46] <romunov> could this be the reason why i have login issues?
[11:46] <romunov> the system gives me a kinit error and goes into the console
[11:46] <romunov> i can startx from there
[11:46] <romunov> but still, it's a hassle, and i can't power down the pc without first going into the console
[11:47] <Sbucatone> i have i little question, my pc became very hot (75 degree celsius) and then fan starts ...it's normal ?
[11:47] <zxy_64> it's not in
[11:47] <zxy_64> ere4si: ^^
[11:47] <FLameBird> any tweaks to make this baby run faster?
[11:48] <ere4si> zxy_64, are you sure your spelling it right?
[11:48] <kiefer> can anyone direct me to a good beginers guide to Kubuntu/Linux in general? for windows users if possible?
[11:48] <kiefer> ex-windows users*
[11:49] <jussi01> kiefer: Id start on the help.ubuntu.com site
[11:49] <kiefer> jussi01:Thanks :)
[11:50] <Sbucatone> kiefer: start with wiki
[11:50] <Sbucatone> !wiki
[11:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[11:50] <Jucato> !docs
[11:50] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:50] <kiefer> Thanks, I'll be sure to read up :D
[11:50] <ere4si> kiefer, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[11:50] <FLameBird> where can I configure services on Kubuntu?
[11:51] <zxy_64> ere4si: yup, i entered "ia32" and got 3 ia32 (java) pkgs,   ia32-libs (installed) and ia32-libs-kde (not installed)
[11:51] <kiefer> ere4si: cheers :)
[11:51] <zxy_64> but not ia32-libs-gtk
[11:52] <ere4si> zxy_64, I'll check elsewhere for it
[11:52] <FLameBird> where can I configure services on Kubuntu?
[11:52] <jussi01> !repeat | FLameBird
[11:52] <ubotu> FLameBird: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:52] <jussi01> FLameBird: what do you mean by services?
[11:53] <FLameBird> systems services jussi01
[11:53] <jussi01> FLameBird: be more specific?
[11:53] <Sbucatone> Jucato: i have very important question, i have a toshiba laptop , well sometime i see my pc laptop and i can see 75 celsius degree..then fan starts, is it normal ?
[11:53] <ere4si> zxy_64, looks like it is a package that stopped at feisty
[11:54] <FLameBird> jussi01: services like cups
[11:54] <Jucato> Sbucatone: um. sorry.. not really good with laptops
[11:54] <ere4si> zxy_64, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/ia32-libs-gtk
[11:54] <zxy_64> damned
[11:54] <zxy_64> i wantet to make flash work somehow
[11:54] <jussi01> FLameBird: in system settings?
[11:55] <FLameBird> jussi01: not there
[11:55] <jussi01> !flashissues > zxy_64
[11:55] <TimS> Jucato, how can I get gmail-notify to open on startup? I think I have to link it to somewhere
[11:55] <jussi01> FLameBird: for cups, go to http://localhost:631 in your browser
[11:55] <Jucato> !austostart | TimS
[11:55] <jussi01> !autostart | TimS
[11:55] <ubotu> TimS: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.