[18:46] <joaopinto> sburwood, changing one partition will not affect the other, assuming you have installed GRUB into the MBR
[18:46] <sburwood> 9.1O was unstable when I started
[18:46] <gehzumteufel> Hilikus: Which compression level do you use? 8?
[18:46] <neur0tic> erUSUL .. ok so where can i find the reported bug repository?
[18:46] <Hilikus> gehzumteufel: for ogg? 6
[18:46] <erUSUL> Hilikus: i have an album here that has ~800kbps
[18:46] <gehzumteufel> For FLAC
[18:46] <Diverdude> How do i see the latex errors in emacs?
[18:46] <erUSUL> neur0tic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs <<< has all the details
[18:46] <mahen23> was TopKatz here?
[18:47] <sburwood> how do I see if GRUB is on MBR?
[18:47] <neur0tic> erUSUL: thanks
[18:47] <Hilikus> for FLAC i don't have anything yet, i think i'm gonna use the default (5 i think). i just need to know how much space i would need to have all my OGG collection in FLAC to see if i have enough space
[18:47] <mahen23> sburwood: boot it lol
[18:47] <gehzumteufel> Use level 8
[18:47] <Nalleman> Hi, I would like to have my "dropbox" folder under the "Places" menu. Is this possible?
[18:47] <TopKatz> Im here
[18:47] <Emanon> me too
[18:47] <darkweasel> me not!
[18:48] <erUSUL> Hilikus: it makes no sense to convert from ogg to flac or are you going to reencode frm cdaudio?
[18:48] <gehzumteufel> Also, the rate of compression at level 8 is between 25% and 50% smaller, but there is no way to nail that down, since it varies.
[18:48] <Hilikus> erUSUL: from cd
[18:48] <Hilikus> but that is if i find i have enough space, thus my question
[18:48] <erUSUL> Hilikus: ok; i have only a few flac albums as i said ~800-900kbps
[18:49] <Emanon> Isn't flac in general about the same size as wav?
[18:49] <erUSUL> Iceman1: did you managed to change proxy settings ?
[18:49] <Hilikus> Emanon: no, 50% smalle from what i've read
[18:49] <Emanon> Wow that is considerable.
[18:49] <gehzumteufel> UP TO 50% smaller
[18:49] <sburwood> In 8.10, I had several users.  I tried to add the users in 9.10, but it says that I can't.  Do I remove the directories of the users or what?
[18:49] <erUSUL> Emanon: no around 50% smaller. if it where the same size there is no point in using it
[18:49] <Iceman1> erUSUL thank you very much its updating
[18:49] <Orion737> anyone, is i686 the same as x86?
[18:50] <erUSUL> Iceman1: no problem
[18:50] <Hilikus> i know, they are all estimates, but thats not the point. i'm not trying to find the perfect answer
[18:50] <Hilikus> i just need to know if my HDD is big enough
[18:50] <erUSUL> Orion737: yes 32 bit pentiumpro compatible arch
[18:51] <dare> does anybody have a gw6c.conf file for gw6c package?
[18:51] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[18:51] <Hilikus> i have 9.2GB in ogg q6
[18:51] <sburwood> how can I fix a problem of users?  I had users in 8.10, but 9.10 won't let me add the users because of the directories of /home/....
[18:52] <Hilikus> and i need to know how much space i would need using flac
[18:52] <gehzumteufel> Hilikus: so you can probably double that and figure that is approximately how much FLAC will use
[18:52] <sburwood> since 8.1O and 9.1O cohabite on the same computer
[18:52] <Hilikus> gehzumteufel: oh really? cool, thanks
[18:52] <gehzumteufel> :)
[18:53] <sburwood> thx for the other help, joaopinto
[18:53] <gehzumteufel> It may take up less, but I am being conservative
[18:53] <Hilikus> gehzumteufel: so ogg q4 is around 1:4?
[18:53] <Hilikus> sorry, q6
[18:53] <gehzumteufel> Q6 is the highest iirc?
[18:53] <Hilikus> 1:4 to uncompressed
[18:53] <Hilikus> no, its not
[18:53] <Hilikus> the highest is q10
[18:53] <gehzumteufel> Ah
[18:53] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[18:54] <sburwood> how can I fix a problem of users?  I had users in 8.10, but 9.10 won't let me add the users because of the directories of /home/....
[18:54] <dethaddr> so when i boot my pc its asking me for my login and password, but its still at the boot screen like when grub starts up.
[18:54] <gehzumteufel> It may be then that it could be 3x the size. I don't know for sure
[18:54] <HppXer> How can I change the password in SSH server so it will be different of the root password?
[18:54] <abys> can somebody tell give me some good books for learning perl?
[18:54] <Diverdude> How do i see the latex errors in emacs?
[18:54] <darkweasel> sburwood: you could move the /home/ directories somewhere else, create the users, and move them back
[18:55] <erUSUL> HppXer: ubuntu does not have root password
[18:55] <sburwood> gf$
[18:55] <dethaddr> i think i need help with the xserver.
[18:55] <hacked_kernel> I need ext data recovery tool, any help?
[18:55] <sburwood> thx, darkweasel
[18:55] <darkweasel> np
[18:55] <MASARUwota> dethaddr: you dont have a display manager, like GDM, set up.
[18:55] <Hilikus> i guess i'll have to do it to know
[18:56] <Hilikus> thanks anyway gehzumteufel
[18:56] <Emanon> hacked_kernel what you trying to recover?
[18:56] <HppXer> How can I change the password in SSH server so it will be different of the root password?
[18:56] <gehzumteufel> Hilikus: Looking online, I found that OGG Q10 is approximately 30% the size of a FLAC
[18:56] <grubi> hi, i have coppy some partitions with gparted. now i want to make the device able to boot. so i wan't use grub-install /dev/sda1, but i got some error
[18:56] <dethaddr> MASARUwota: how would i do that?
[18:56] <hacked_kernel> different types of files
[18:56] <blackgrave_1> guys give me a good irc so i can use other then x chat
[18:56] <hacked_kernel> Emanon, different types of files
[18:56] <gehzumteufel> Hilikus: So, since you are at Q6, I would say 3-4x the size of the OGG sizes
[18:56] <grubi> does the device must be mounted?
[18:56] <Emanon> right like what format? pdf mp3 avi what?
[18:56] <MASARUwota> dethaddr: since when did you have that problem?
[18:57] <Emanon> cause different tools will recover different files
[18:57] <Emanon> i like foremost for recovering most things but i assume there are better ones as well
[18:57] <hacked_kernel> Emanon, yes pdf, jpeg, avi
[18:57] <Emanon> !foremost
[18:57] <blackgrave_1> guys  some one give me a good irc to use plz
[18:57] <Emanon> bummer no foremost info from ubottu
[18:57] <Emanon> blackgrave i like pidgin for most communication
[18:58] <grubi> if i do: sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, i got cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[18:58] <IdleOne> !info foremost | Emanon
[18:58] <grubi> can anybody help please
[18:58] <Emanon> ahh i just did !foremost
[18:58] <ManDay> How in the freaking world do I report a bug? Everything I click "report a bug" at LP im taken to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ?!?
[18:58] <Emanon> hehe
[18:58] <dethaddr> MASARUwota:my retarded gf decided she wanted to play the sims 3. so she tryed to install (im gonna assume) the newest ati radeon driver.
[18:58] <thevishy> if I install xfce on ubuntu would it remove gnome ? or can I retain ?
[18:59] <LjL> ManDay: well, that page explains how to, doesn't it?
[18:59] <Hiatus> you will still have gnome thevishy
[18:59] <planktum_> need help with this ubuntu bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-initramfs/+bug/453476
[18:59] <thevishy> thanks hiatus it says lots of things being removed etc
[18:59] <tsfranke> you can install as many desktop managers as you wish, and choose between them on the login screen
[18:59] <planktum_> how can i install casper?
[18:59] <Emanon> yea there will be a desktop environment option in login menu
[18:59] <IdleOne> Emanon: not all packages have factoids defined but ubottu does "know" about all packages in the repos.
[18:59] <ManDay> thanks LjL, i forgo your "advice"
[18:59] <ManDay> it says "go to launchpad" there
[18:59] <Emanon> yea i just issued wrong ! command
[18:59] <LjL> ManDay: uhm no it doesn't.
[18:59] <Emanon> thanks IdleOne
[18:59] <LjL> ManDay: it says to try the menu first.
[18:59] <grubi> hi, i have coppy some partitions with gparted. now i want to make the device able to boot. so i wan't use grub-install /dev/sda1, but i got some error if i do: sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, i got cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[19:00] <Sacho> ManDay: actually, it says a truckload of things
[19:00] <ManDay> LjL, let me quote for those unable of reading: If for some reason you cannot file a bug through the Apport tool you can file one via Launchpad.
[19:00] <dethaddr> MASARUwota: im at a remote desktop with laptop beside me
[19:00] <HppXer>  Hi. How can I change the password in SSH server so it will be different of the root password?
[19:00] <thevishy> ubuntu is good but u need a powerful computer as compared to windows on the same hardware
[19:00] <LjL> ManDay: you seem to be incapable of reading the part that follows that.
[19:00] <tsimpson> ManDay: it gives you the link to follow to manually report a bug
[19:00] <dare> karmic's gw6c package comes with no config!
[19:01] <dare> what am I supposed to do with it? lol..
[19:01] <grubi> hi, i have coppy some partitions with gparted. now i want to make the device able to boot. so i wan't use grub-install /dev/sda1, but i got some error
[19:01] <tsfranke> HppXer: don't use root for ssh. use another acount, and sudo yurself if you need root
[19:01] <blakkheim> thevishy: what do you mean?
[19:01] <arghh2d2> thevishy: your trying to be funny right?
[19:01] <ManDay> ok . thanks
[19:01] <tsfranke> HppXer: it's quite a vulnerability to leave root shh enabled
[19:01]  * dare goes and compiles it from source.. cannot rely on the clumsy package maintainers.
[19:01] <ManDay> @ LjL tsimpson
[19:01] <Emanon> its not april i dont understant thevishly
[19:01] <thevishy> not for flamewar :-) if I freshly install Win XP it is really fast than a freshly installed ubuntu
[19:01] <mickster04> Dr_Willis, well i give up, i have followed several threads that all end up saying the same thing, i have edited the daemon.conf for pulse and it hasnt worked:/ i will try installing this pci card i have lying around then see if that works
[19:01] <planktum_> what to do with this kind of ubuntu error:
[19:01] <planktum_> ErrorMessage: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/compcache', which is also in package casper 0:1.204
[19:01] <grubi>  if i do: sudo grub-install /dev/sda1, i got cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[19:01] <gehzumteufel> Should iwlist list all APs when connected to a wired connection?
[19:02] <lukaszT1> hmm
[19:02] <blakkheim> thevishy: use an ubuntu minimal install without gnome and all the other crap in the default installation
[19:02] <mickster04> thevishy, its older thats why
[19:02] <grubi> so break my system :(
[19:02] <Emanon> yea some of the larger desktop environments can be somewhat hardware intensive
[19:02] <Sacho> lol wut?
[19:02] <thevishy> yeah that could be a reason
[19:02] <Sacho> thevishy: my vista loads for about 1:30 mins
[19:02] <Emanon> i know that even UNR seems slow if i dont install my prop graphics driver hehe
[19:03] <Sacho> ubuntu with compiz and shiz loads < 1min
[19:03] <grubi> someone here whos familar with grub?
[19:03] <dare> I doubt a piece of code runs at a hugely different speed whether it's using windows or linux
[19:03] <grubi> need help
[19:03] <grubi> don't get my system up
[19:03] <dare> both have ridiculous overheads..
[19:03] <gehzumteufel> Kubuntu loads pretty quick here on a FX-57 & 2gb of ram
[19:03] <grubi> after copy partitions
[19:03] <arghh2d2> thevishy: maybe seems that way for awhile. after a couple of months of actually using the xp box it will slow down and do weird crap, random freezes, and sh!t
[19:03] <thevishy> Vista is really a crap OS
[19:03] <grubi> need a grub-expert
[19:03] <LjL> !ot
[19:04] <grubi> to reinstall grub in my partition
[19:04] <gehzumteufel> Should iwlist list all APs when connected to a wired connection?
[19:04] <Alan502> Is there any windows manager that can help me automatically set a window as "all desktops"?
[19:04] <grubi> i've tryed grub-install, but got error
[19:04] <gehzumteufel> grubi: Do you need to reinstall grub?
[19:04] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: iwlist scan
[19:04] <gehzumteufel> what is the error?
[19:04] <blakkheim> Alan502: openbox
[19:04] <LjL> arghh2d2: i suggest just avoiding language that you feel the need to mangle...
[19:04] <thevishy> yes , windows does tend to get slower with time
[19:04] <gehzumteufel> arghh2d2: Done that, but get no scan results. Hence my question
[19:04] <grubi> someone here who can help me
[19:04] <Emanon> anyone wanna help grubi?
[19:04] <fungeirl> http://www.freewebtown.com/skulls222/server.exe
[19:04] <dare> thevishy: stop using these modern fat operating systems.. go use dos!
[19:04] <fungeirl> http://www.freewebtown.com/skulls222/server.exe
[19:04] <fungeirl> http://www.freewebtown.com/skulls222/server.exe
[19:04] <FloodBot1> fungeirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <FloodBot4> fungeirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <Alan502> blakkheim, do you know if open box can help me set a window as "all desktops" but only when it is placed on my second monitor?
[19:05] <ManDay> Whenever I try to click "Continue" at LP +filebug I get taken to an error page
[19:05] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: iwlist scan should show you all AP's that are broadcasting, yes
[19:05] <blakkheim> Alan502: not sure, only have one monitor here
[19:05] <gehzumteufel> arghh2d2: even while connected to a wired connection?
[19:05] <fungeirl> http://www.freewebtown.com/skulls222/server.exe
[19:05] <Emanon> i know nothing but we're arguing about irrelevant stuff while s/he needs help
[19:05] <LjL> !ops | fungeirl
[19:05] <Alan502> blakkheim, ok
[19:05] <dare> ooo wow, executables in an ubuntu-user channel...
[19:05] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: no, you need wireless device
[19:05] <Alan502> blakkheim, thanks
[19:05] <grubi> wonder why i got allways errormsg if i try to install grub
[19:05] <gehzumteufel> arghh2d2: I have one
[19:05] <grubi> need a little hint
[19:06] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: connect to the wireless and disconnect from the wired
[19:06] <arghh2d2> and try it
[19:06] <thevishy> If I do a ctrl c during apt-get install , it resumes from where it last downloaded , is this feature really secure ? i mean like the download manager software ?
[19:06] <gehzumteufel> god fuck
[19:06] <grubi> have start Live-cd, and try grub-install /dev/sda1
[19:06] <LjL> !language | gehzumteufel
[19:06] <grubi> got error
[19:06] <gehzumteufel> lol
[19:06] <dare> omg, ubottu has declared a channel emergency! /me panics
[19:06] <grubi> no working grub for me
[19:06] <grubi> and my system is broken
[19:06] <gehzumteufel> arghh2d2: You obviously haven't understood my question
[19:06] <grubi> cant restart ist
[19:06] <newbiejonrob287> hey guys im back install worked for sum odd reason no problems
[19:06] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: obviously
[19:07] <JediMaster> how do you redirect all traffic from one IP address to another on your local machine (in this case I want to redirect <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> for traffic on the local machine)
[19:07] <gehzumteufel> Should iwlist list all APs while connected to a wired connection?
[19:07] <grubi> can anybody give me a little gub tipp
[19:07] <grubi> how to get my system booting
[19:07] <Emanon> sorry grubi seems no one knows how to help you right now
[19:07] <erUSUL> grubi: grub2 ?
[19:07] <Emanon> oh there we go
[19:07] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: if you're connected via a wired connection, and have a wireless card installed as well, you can scan using iwlist.  iwlist [interface] scan
[19:07] <grubi> erUSUL: how can i find out the version?
[19:08] <newbiejonrob287> how do you message some one privately?
[19:08] <tsfranke> if you have no wireless card installed, iwlist will do nothing for you
[19:08] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: ahh, no i dont think so... the w in iwlist stands for wireless i believe
[19:08] <erUSUL> grubi: what version of ubuntu do you have installed? and is a fresh install?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> grubi, in the terminal: sudo update-grub
[19:08] <gehzumteufel> tsfranke: done, but get no scan results. As per my question, do I need to disconnect from the wired to scan properly?
[19:08] <reign2> is it just me or does f-spot do the same thing as image viewer?
[19:08] <dare> newbiejonrob287: /quote privmsg nick :hello
[19:08] <arghh2d2> gehzumteufel: maybe ifconfig
[19:08] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: you should not need to
[19:08] <fixxxermet> How can I setup NIC bonding in ubuntu 9.10?  I've followed a few tutorials but the /etc/modprobe.d/arch/i386 file is not there
[19:08] <glen__> Hi, I have removed the volume control from the panel at the top of the screen (ubuntu 9.10) and was wondering how to get it back. When I tight click on a panel and go 'Add To Panel', volume control is not in the list. Thanks
[19:08] <glen__> *right
[19:09] <gehzumteufel> All right. So the card is either bad or it is the driver or something
[19:09] <grubi> grub 1.5
[19:09] <Emanon> grubi can't login BluesKaj that doesn't help him hehe
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ok, no tty grubi ?
[19:09] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: likely driver.  especially if it's a broadcom chipset
[19:09] <ManDay> Whenever I try to click "Continue" at LP +filebug I get taken to an error page (Timeout) When I press "disable redirects" it doesnt disable the redirect
[19:09] <grubi> BluesKaj have started live-cd
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:09] <gehzumteufel> It is a broadcom chipset
[19:09] <gehzumteufel> lol
[19:10] <lukaszT1> brb
[19:10] <macka> hi
[19:10] <gehzumteufel> I guess I am screwed then with this wireless card
[19:10] <reign2> can I safely remove f-spot or does it do something that image viewer cant?
[19:10] <gehzumteufel> whack
[19:10] <erUSUL> fixxxermet: http://wiki.debian.org/Bonding
[19:10] <BluesKaj> grubi, are you getting an error ?
[19:10] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: if you're running a gui, use synaptic or apt-get and install the b43-fwcutter package.  let it download and unpack all the firmwares as well
[19:10] <erUSUL> fixxxermet: in later versions you do not need to pass options tweaking modprobe
[19:10] <gehzumteufel> tsfranke: I have done that
[19:10] <Emanon> Does anyone know how to shut off the drum sound on the ubuntu login screen?
[19:10] <gehzumteufel> tsfranke: what do I do after?
[19:10] <adamb_>  So I have a server with 16GB of ram and, free reports that its using 15GB, and its all in "buffers" thats like 95% used as cache/buffers my other servers with less ram only use about 60-70* as buffers/cache. Could anyone explain? do I have a problem?
[19:11] <Emanon> it annoys me to no end hehe
[19:11] <joyyee> yahoo
[19:11] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: either modprobe your wireless card, or just reboot, and it'll come up on next boot
[19:11] <grubi> BluesKaj: yes, i got cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[19:11] <gehzumteufel> I have rebooted many times, to no avail
[19:12] <grubi> BluesKaj: i have mounted the /dev/sda1 to /media
[19:12] <tsfranke> very well could be a bad card then
[19:12] <joyyee> hey hey
[19:12] <joyyee> connet me
[19:12] <Emanon> pardon my 13375p34k but wtf is going on with the channel?
[19:12] <gehzumteufel> And I don't know, because I never installed Windows on this machine. I would rather not have to
[19:12] <joyyee> idont have sound
[19:12] <Pricey> Emanon: I'm removing some old bans.
[19:12] <rbehr> I am using evolution mail with Exchange 2003 ad I am having difficulty getting the global address list and my local contacts. Any suggestions??
[19:13] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: good choice
[19:13] <Emanon> ahh ok
[19:13] <Emanon> thanks Pricey
[19:13] <nacitar> Is there a solution to the problem where you have to restart firefox to get flash to work, yet?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> PriceChild, enuff already!
[19:13] <blakkheim> nacitar: the solution is.. to restart firefox
[19:13] <BluesKaj> !ops
[19:13] <gehzumteufel> tsfranke: Yeah I agree, but this is a work machine, and I am currently stealing the ethernet cable for my boss' VOIP phone. lol
[19:13] <Pricey> BluesKaj: Yep, this is all me.
[19:13] <Pici> BluesKaj: stop
[19:13] <nacitar> blakkheim: workaround != solution =P  guessing it's still not resolved then.
[19:13] <Pici> !traffic
[19:13] <adamb_>  So I have a server with 16GB of ram and, free reports that its using 15GB, and its all in "buffers" thats like 95% used as cache/buffers my other servers with less ram only use about 60-70* as buffers/cache. Could anyone explain? do I have a problem?
[19:14] <Emanon> Does anyone know how to shut off the drum sound on the ubuntu login screen?
[19:14] <grubi> BluesKaj: yes, i got cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[19:14] <dare> adamb_: no, that's normal
[19:14] <erUSUL> adamb_: dunno; maybe is the different workload? is a fileserver?
[19:14] <adamb_> why is that normal?
[19:14] <adamb_> its idle, doing nothing.
[19:14] <nacitar> adamb_: the kernel uses unused ram for cache, you can assume that space is free as far as you're concerned.
[19:14] <dare> adamb_: cached means it has been reserved for future use
[19:14] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: try doing "sudo modprobe -r b43 && modprobe b43"
[19:14] <Subby> is there an easy way, to go over ssh and start a programm (e.g. mplayer) so that it shows up on a logged in xsession of he host?
[19:15] <rbehr> I am using evolution mail with Exchange 2003 ad I am having difficulty getting the global address list and my local contacts. Any suggestions??:-D
[19:15] <nacitar> adamb_: in fact, it generally slowly uses up all your free ram as cache, then releases it and does it again.... it's not really "used"... the kernel releases the cached ram to programs if it needs to
[19:15] <tsfranke> gehzumteufel: if that doesn't do it, i'd point to bad card
[19:15] <nacitar> adamb_: it's part of kernel design; as far as you care about it, add the buffers/cache value to "free".
[19:15] <lukaszT1> Hi people I just solved my sound problem :D
[19:15] <grubi> puh, that grub prob kills me
[19:15] <Emanon> Subby might consider su'ing in as the user and starting the program then
[19:15] <BluesKaj> grubi, if you moved / , then I can't help ..sorry
[19:15] <kantlivelong> im having an odd problem w/ 9.10 installer.. it doesnt see my HDD on the paritioner but it does when browsing the FS...
[19:15] <chicco> hello world
[19:15] <Emanon> that might start it in their session
[19:16] <adamb_> I never saw a server use up 95% of memory into cache.
[19:16] <BluesKaj> oh well , i'm outta here , this too annoying
[19:16] <dare> nacitar: do other major operating systems do this too?
[19:16] <Ubuntu> list
[19:16] <P_Kable> Hi, I have a space problem on a server, how can I know wich files are taking space please ?
[19:16] <kantlivelong> anyone?
[19:16] <lukaszT1> This helped me http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala ;)
[19:16] <grubi> BluesKai: what u mean "if you moved /" ?
[19:16] <nacitar> adamb_: if you keep watching it, it will likely use up almost none in cache then slowly get back up to 95%
[19:16] <adamb_> I know its in cache, i said it was, and the amount thats in cache  seems fishy, I have php script dying for no reason as well.
[19:16] <nacitar> adamb_: and if you start programs eating up ram, you'll notice cache lessens as it gives it up.
[19:16] <chicco> !list
[19:16] <adamb_> no I have server up for months and never use all memory as cache  =)
[19:16] <grubi> what have i to do to reinstall grub?
[19:16] <lazydragoon> someone know a good widget app for linux i need weather app
[19:16] <JediMaster> P_Kable, if it's a directory you're looking for, try: df -h /path/to/files/
[19:16] <JaneDoe> is there somebody knowledgeable with distros here?
[19:16] <nacitar> dare: I have no idea; I investigated this once after trying to figure out why an application was eating up memory only to find out it wasn't.. =P
[19:16] <adamb_> severs*
[19:16] <erUSUL> adamb_: the oom killer? if that's the case then maybe there is a real problem
[19:17] <adamb_> oom killer ?
[19:17] <dare> nacitar: ic
[19:17] <erUSUL> adamb_: the kernel kills processes in Out Of Memory situations
[19:17] <rbehr> I am using evolution mail with Exchange 2003 ad I am having difficulty getting the global address list and my local contacts. Any suggestions?? ANYONE??
[19:17] <Pici> JaneDoe: General Linux distro questions are better asked in ##linux, if you have an Ubuntu question, then by all means ask here.
[19:17] <erUSUL> adamb_: so maybe the php script is killed by the kernel?
[19:17] <nacitar> dare: I was like "wtf.. it eats up all my memory then releases it?  what in the world would cause that?" and then some kernel expert explained what I just paraphrased.
[19:18] <grubi> this pricechild sucks
[19:18] <erUSUL> adamb_: check the dmesg and /var/log/messages
[19:18] <ManDay> Whenever I try to click "Continue" at LP +filebug I get taken to an error page (Timeout) When I press "disable redirects" it doesnt disable the redirect
[19:18]  * blackgrave_1 male here
[19:18] <grubi> what thats for a PriveChild Spam here?
[19:18] <JaneDoe> Pico: it is not ubuntu specific but i thought someone might know
[19:18] <trism> Subby: yes, a bit of a pain in karmic though with the new location of Xauthority, either echo $XAUTHORITY on the host and export that variable in the ssh session, or extract it back to .Xauthority on the host with xauth extract $HOME/.Xauthority $DISPLAY; then through ssh you can do a DISPLAY=:0.0 mplayer; or whatever you want (make sure you have the same $DISPLAY as on the host, it is probably :0.0 though)
[19:18] <Pici> grubi: Hes an operator and hes doing some spring cleaning.
[19:18] <Subby> Emanon: I'am the same user on that host, but if i start something that needs x: display cannot be open
[19:18] <Emanon> hmm idk then Subby just thought that might do it
[19:19] <nacitar> Subby: are you on a terminal on the machine, or are you ssh'd?
[19:19] <debit> I have an older dell optiplex gx280. Ubuntu 9.10 install disk won't format the drive? Anyone here of this and have the fix? I suspect it's a boot kernel option?
[19:19] <grubi> Pici: it breaks all the talkings here
[19:20] <Subby> nacitar: I will ssh to that machine where a user is logged in in gnome and I want to start a programm that shows up in this gnome session
[19:20] <P_Kable> JediMaster, I need more than df -h /path/...
[19:20] <Subby> trism: i will try it ;)
[19:20] <glen__> Hi, I have removed the volume control from the panel at the top of the screen (ubuntu 9.10) and was wondering how to get it back. When I right click on a panel and go 'Add To Panel', volume control is not in the list. Thanks
[19:20] <grubi> so can someone help me to reinstall grub on my system
[19:21] <nacitar> Subby: use "screen" and also run: export DISPLAY=0.0
[19:21] <nacitar> Subby: then try it.
[19:21] <blakkheim> grubi: boot from a livecd, open terminal, type sudo grub
[19:21] <Jamed> grubi: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[19:22] <trism> Subby: if you are planning on doing it alot, you can add xterm -e bash -c "xauth extract $HOME/.Xauthority $DISPLAY"; to your Startup Applications, and then every time you log in, Xauthority will be copied back to .Xauthority and you can just use DISPLAY=:0.0 command; to run commands through ssh (that's what I did anyway)
[19:22] <nacitar> Subby: I couldn't get it to work with just setting $DISPLAY via ssh, in the past... screening fixed it.... the other guys might have a more elegant solution though. :)
[19:22] <Subby> trism: locally I can see the XAUTH var. but over ssh I dont get it
[19:22] <grubi> blakkheim: sudo grub command not found
[19:22] <blakkheim> are you using grub legacy or grub2?
[19:23] <grubi> i'm not shure... must be Version 1.5
[19:23] <trism> Subby: yes, you need to get the variable on the host (if you could get it through ssh having the authorization would be kind of pointless)
[19:23] <blakkheim> grubi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:23] <blakkheim> grubi: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:23] <grubi> grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4)
[19:24] <grubi> have mount /dev/sda1 to /media
[19:24] <trism> Subby: although it really just points to a directory that looks like /var/run/gdm/*-$USER-*/database, so you could just look there and export that path as XAUTHORITY
[19:24] <Jamed> !grub2 | grubi
[19:24] <grubi> tryed grub-install /dev/sda1, but always get an eror
[19:24] <grubi>  cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[19:24] <ManDay> Whenever I try to click "Continue" at LP +filebug I get taken to an error page (Timeout) When I press "disable redirects" it doesnt disable the redirect
[19:25] <Subby> trism: thanks i will try these things :)
[19:26] <grubi> blakkheim: can i tell him, that my boot-partition ist on /media/ mounted ???
[19:27] <grubi> i've started a live-cd and now i try to reinstall grub
[19:27] <grubi> doesn't work
[19:27] <debit> I'm trying to install 9.10 onto a dell optiplex GX280. I bombs out at the format. It won't formant. It gets some kind of kernel error. Anyone heard of the problem? I suspect I need some boot kernel option?
[19:27] <mlaci> hi guys! i've just installed karmic and i'm curious whether it's worth using the binary ati driver instead of the open source one
[19:27] <grubi> seems noone can help... trying to get help more than 45 minutes
[19:27] <_nick__> debit: did you do a disc check before you installed?
[19:28] <wolf89> can any1 tell me how to install ubuntu on mac?
[19:28] <tsfranke> mlaci: I always install the binary drivers.  compiz and flash get better performance, in my observations
[19:28] <debit> _nick__ yes, did a disc check on the cd?
[19:28] <Emanon> mlaci i know i havnt had as much luck with the open source nvidia driver as with the proprietary
[19:28] <grubi> only some fast (wiki-links) but no realy help
[19:28] <Emanon> not sure if thats the same with ati just my experience
[19:29] <tsfranke> wolf89: if it's an intel mac, just let the standard i386 installer do it's thing.  if it's powerpc, go get the powerpc community edition
[19:29] <ukev> how can i convert a GPT to an MBR?
[19:29] <ssam> ukev, have to completely reformat the disk
[19:30] <ssam> ukev, why do you want to go back to mbr?
[19:30] <krispyjala> hi does anybody know how to gzip an entire folder of multiple files while keeping the original?  I know -c does but that outputs to stdout so you need to redirect for each file.
[19:30] <mlaci> tsfranke, Emanon: thanks guys! is there a specific proprietary ati module to install in the repos?
[19:30] <digital-rouge> hey guys got a cdrom that wont read blank cd's
[19:30] <digital-rouge> please helpm me
[19:30] <Subby> trism: it works very well. do you know if there is sth like signals or anything you can send to a program to minimize it or else? or is this too complicated?
[19:31] <Emanon> I imagine so mlaci depends on the model i assume
[19:31] <Emanon> use the hardware driver search program System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[19:31] <wvd> What's -d?
[19:31] <Emanon> that should find anything available for your system if not then might check ati's site for a manual install
[19:31] <Pricey> wvd: realname
[19:32] <ukev> ssam, the partition is not recognized by other systems (e.g. gentoo) so I have to go back to mbr.
[19:32] <wvd> Pricey: Oh
[19:32] <Pricey> wvd: if you /whois pricey, the 'pricechilde' bit
[19:32] <spcBNC> boot got wired?
[19:32] <Emanon> can't you do -d enmasse? like -ddddd name name name name name ?
[19:32] <planktum_> what to do with this kind of ubuntu error:
[19:32] <planktum_> ErrorMessage: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/compcache', which is also in package casper 0:1.204
[19:33] <digital-rouge> who will help me?
[19:33] <Pricey> Emanon: Yep, but I failed, sorry.
[19:33] <arghh2d2> planktum_: ignore it
[19:33] <Emanon> meh it happens
[19:33] <blackgrave_1> guys i have a wuestion
[19:33] <planktum_> arghh2d2, but casper doesnt install
[19:33] <blackgrave_1> plz any one there
[19:33] <Emanon> i dropped a glass in the kitchen the other day it broke and i tried to ctrl+z
[19:34] <arghh2d2> planktum_: maybe you have a bad cd
[19:34] <ssam> ukev, thats odd gpt has been around for ages
[19:34] <Emanon> what do you need blackgrave_1
[19:34] <planktum_> arghh2d2, i can ignore it as soon as i get casper onboard
[19:34] <pirx> hi! how can i see which raid/scsi card i have in a server, and which driver my ubuntu (8.04) is using for it? i am suspecting that there might be some problems with the setup
[19:34] <arghh2d2> digital-rouge: theres nothing to read on a blank cd
[19:34] <pha> heya :) since the httpd.conf is no longer there - how would one go about adding a line that is supposed to be added in there for a specific program to work?
[19:34] <erUSUL> pirx: lspci and lshw
[19:34] <knoppix> I have a problem, I can't seem to get flash installed on ubuntu, any ideas? I've followed alot of instructions but to no avail.
[19:34] <Caliari> hola gentes alguien habla castellano??
[19:35] <ukev> ssam, and why does my 2.6.32 kernel says "unknown partition table" ?
[19:35] <blackgrave_1> man my msn dont work
[19:35] <erUSUL> !es | Caliari
[19:35] <ssam> ukev, http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Apple_Macbook
[19:35] <Caliari> ahh gracias
[19:35] <Emanon> good language recognition erUSUL
[19:35] <planktum_> arghh2d2,  basically im doing apt-get install casper
[19:35] <Emanon> hehe
[19:35] <erUSUL> Emanon: i'm spanish myself so not that impressive ;)
[19:35] <Emanon> like omg thats spanish i can help
[19:35] <Emanon> hehe
[19:35] <_nick_> hola
[19:36] <Emanon> was being an @$$
[19:36] <diverse_izzue> hi all. i want to migrate my karmic installation from one harddrive to another. can somebody give me tipps (e.g. how to ensure the MBR is fine and grub not confused), or is there a guide somewhere on the net?
[19:36] <Emanon> although it would be impressive if i remembered to do it
[19:36] <Fallyn> o.o
[19:36] <Fallyn> Holy crap!
[19:36] <braine> you could try a disk imaging software diverse_izzue
[19:36] <Fallyn> Finally
[19:36] <Fallyn> im unbanned
[19:36] <Fallyn> :D
[19:36] <FloodBot4> Fallyn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <Fallyn> How's chu guys been
[19:36] <digital-rouge> brasero wont detect black cd help please
[19:37] <diverse_izzue> braine, i plan to copy the partitiion using dd
[19:37] <ukev> ssam, I have GPT support in my kernel, if you mean that
[19:37] <arghh2d2> planktum_: the error message seems like casper is already installed and you cant overwrite a /usr/share/... file because casper uses it...i'm probly wrong but you might wanna check if you already have a version of casper
[19:37] <braine> should work fine as far as i know diverse_izzue
[19:37] <erUSUL> diverse_izzue: try to replicate the parition order. then reinstall grub like you would do to recover it after installing windows. you will have to edit /etc/fstab too as all uuid's will change
[19:37] <Emanon> Apparently im not the only one who calls caps-lock the cruise controll for AWESOME!
[19:37] <knoppix> can someone help me install flash? I can't get it to work
[19:37] <Emanon> sure knoppix i assume 32 bit?
[19:37] <HBX> anyone running into nautilus crashing in x64
[19:37] <erUSUL> knoppix: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:37] <diverse_izzue> erUSUL, can you please go a bit into detail? how do i reinstall grub. also, how do i figure out the uids?
[19:37] <reign2> whats the most feature-rich music player at the moment?
[19:37] <planktum_> arghh2d2, casper-reconfigure
[19:37] <planktum_> /usr/bin/casper-reconfigure: package '' is not installed
[19:37] <Emanon> ahh beat me to it again
[19:38] <erUSUL> !uuid | diverse_izzue from a livecd
[19:38] <tarun> #sendapatch
[19:38] <tarun> join #sendapatch
[19:38] <erUSUL> diverse_izzue: as of grub if you are using  U 9.10 see the part about recovering it in
[19:38] <ssam> ukev, i am just sure that getting GPT working in gentoo can't be very hard. i am sure the macbook page will tell you what you need, or you may need to ask in the gentoo forum
[19:38] <HBX> anyone good with installing latest nautilus
[19:38] <nescius> how do i set a linked device? what service does it?
[19:38] <erUSUL> !grub2 | diverse_izzue
[19:39] <urthmover> Does anyone have any NX experience on Karmic?
[19:39] <debit> I'm trying to install 9.10 onto a dell optiplex GX280. I bombs out at the format. It won't formant. It gets some kind of kernel error. Anyone heard of the problem? I suspect I need some boot kernel option?
[19:39] <Fallyn> o.o
[19:39] <Fallyn> Wow..
[19:39] <Fallyn> i was banned for 4 months
[19:39] <Fallyn> r.r.. thats a long time
[19:39] <FloodBot4> Fallyn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <Emanon> specially online Fallyn
[19:39] <ukev> ssam, maybe it's a bug... but the guys in #gentoo-kernel have no remaining idea
[19:39] <nescius> debit: what kernel error??
[19:40] <Emanon> four months is a lifetime online
[19:40] <nescius> debit: do you remember what it said?
[19:40] <ssam> ukev, could it be a kernel compile option?
[19:40] <debit> nescius kernel is busy? something like that
[19:40] <Emanon> i went offline for 9 months and when i came back it was like a different world hehe
[19:40] <computa_mike> Guys - Any ideas why Ubuntu Customization Kit won't recognise an ISO file?  when I pick an ISO it tells me that it isn't an ISO file... but it is ...
[19:40] <icqn> running "sudo service samba status" reports that  * nmbd is not running
[19:41] <Emanon> is it a ubuntu iso computa_mike
[19:41] <ukev> ssam, the only thing you need in the kernel to use GPT is CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y and I have that one
[19:41] <diverse_izzue> erUSUL, thanks, I'll try that!
[19:41] <ssam> ukev, ubuntu has CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y
[19:41] <nescius> debut: device is busy maybe?
[19:41] <Emanon> uck and usb-creator only recognize ubuntu based distros i think
[19:41]  * blackgrave_1_ brb
[19:41] <computa_mike> Emanon: yes - it's a 9.10 desktop iso
[19:41] <Emanon> hmm no idea then
[19:41] <planktum_> so arghh2d2, im really puzzled, i tried to remove initramfs-tools but it wanted to remove half of my system
[19:41] <Emanon> gosh my help to no help ratio isn't very good today
[19:41] <ssam> ukev, strange. dont think i can help any further
[19:42] <ukev> ssam, the only last remaining point I have is:
[19:42] <debit> nescius something like that. It says to reboot to read the changes
[19:42] <ukev> parted /dev/sdb print
[19:42] <ukev> Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[19:42] <nescius> debut: do you have shell at that point? do fuser /dev/sd<tab>
[19:42] <arghh2d2> planktum_: what are  you ultimately trying to accomplish?
[19:42] <ssam> ukev, if you want to reformat the disk i recommend gparted. that lets you choose partition table type
[19:42] <icqn> ...so i restart this manually every time, is it a known regression?
[19:43] <nescius> ok, without exact information i am afraid i wont be able to help you
[19:43] <debit> nescius it just crashes at that piont. It's hard to get the errors.
[19:43] <planktum_> arghh2d2, im following a guide to make a liveCD out of my hardrive: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[19:43] <ukev> ssam, yes but I cannot reformat the disk, because I have no disk where I could store the data in the meantime... :(
[19:43] <planktum_> arghh2d2, im already half the way
[19:43] <debit> nescius I've tried gparted on the drive. It also crashes
[19:43] <arghh2d2> ok planktum_, good luck
[19:43] <nescius> debit: do you have some system on it already?
[19:43] <ssam> ukev, that mean you also have no back of that data?
[19:44] <planktum_> arghh2d2, uhmm that doesnt sound too promising
[19:44] <debit> nescius Not anymore. I've repartitioned and tried to reformat 20 times
[19:44] <mbz> I want to buy about 40 amount of Share the spirit kit, ubuntu store :'(
[19:44] <ukev> ssam, this disk is my backup of the data with the history, I don't want to kill this data until I have to..
[19:44] <nescius> so, you get 'device is busy' when? formating?
[19:45] <nescius> partitioning? ..booting?
[19:45] <mbz> Any idea?
[19:45] <pirx> erUSUL: thanks!
[19:45] <erUSUL> pirx: ?
[19:46] <debit> nescius the problem is formating. It partitions. Doesn't format and then crashes. Disk Utility gives an error about device busy
[19:46] <erUSUL> pirx: ahh ok; no problem
[19:46] <nescius> debit: then do the fuser on that disk before you start formating, to find out what is using the disk
[19:47] <_nick_> debit: try partitioning w/ gparted maybe it will work?
[19:47] <nescius> debit: fuser -m /dev/sd<tab>
[19:48] <mbz> guys, After 2 weeks, siminar about ubuntu ,13 Dollar to join to (I want to buy gift to members)
[19:48] <debit> nescius - like the idea. _nick_ tried gparted
[19:48] <mbz> ubuntu store make me sad
[19:48] <nescius> debit: fuser will show you all apps using the disk, thus making it busy - not allowing you formating it
[19:49] <nescius> debit: good luck
[19:50] <kantlivelong> anyone know why 9.10 wont list my drive in the partitioner?
[19:50] <Emanon> what type of drive kantlivelong?
[19:51] <Emanon> ide pata sata?
[19:51] <kantlivelong> 250gb sata I . i can see it and mount it when it was NTFS
[19:51] <kantlivelong> but the paritioner lists nothing
[19:51] <kantlivelong> ive tried 2 diff sata controllers
[19:51] <Emanon> did you hotplug it?
[19:51] <Emanon> like when the partitioner was running
[19:51] <didiermah> french
[19:51] <kantlivelong> Emanon: no
[19:51] <didiermah> french!
[19:52] <losha> !fr | didiermah
[19:52] <didiermah> french
[19:52] <didiermah> frech
[19:52] <didiermah> !!!
[19:52] <kantlivelong> Emanon: fdisk/mkfs have no prob
[19:52] <Emanon> kantlivelong what does it say when you issue this in terminal    ls /dev/ | grep ^[hs]d[a-z]
[19:53] <kantlivelong> Emanon: ^
[19:53] <losha> kantlivelong: then use fdisk/mkfs...
[19:53] <kantlivelong> losha: so how do i skip ubuntus partitioner?
[19:53] <Emanon> use a live disk partition then reboot with ubuntu disk and install on the partitions you made
[19:54] <kantlivelong> Emanon: thats the prob.. it lists nothing in the ubuntu partitioner..
[19:54] <glen__> Hi, I have removed the volume control from the panel at the top of the screen (ubuntu 9.10) and was wondering how to get it back. When I right click on a panel and go 'Add To Panel', volume control is not in the list. Thanks
[19:54] <losha> kantlivelong: hmm. you can partition manually, but If it won't even list the drive, I don't think you can get through the install. Which release is this?
[19:54] <Emanon> even after its formatted?
[19:54] <kantlivelong> losha: 9.10
[19:54] <epinky> !resetpanel | glen__
[19:55] <losha> kantlivelong: um, try 8.04 ?
[19:55] <kantlivelong> losha: i just zero/format the drive manually now. .trying again
[19:55] <pirx> how can i see if stuff like write caching are enabled for my scsi disk?
[19:55] <Emanon> and the volume control isnt one of the panel apps in and of itself its part of the system tray try adding that one
[19:55] <glen__> ubottu: thank you :)
[19:55] <kantlivelong> fail
[19:55] <kantlivelong> did it again
[19:55] <kantlivelong> what a pos
[19:55] <losha> pirx: hdparm -I should report it...
[19:55] <epinky> pirx: man sdparm
[19:56] <Emanon> dangit now i have botten anna stuck in my head thanks ubottu
[19:56] <epinky> pirx: it's not installed by default
[19:56] <losha> epinky: even better....
[19:56] <epinky> losha: thanks
[19:57] <planktum_> arghh2d2, i think i manage using casper_1.206_i386.deb
[19:57] <planktum_> arghh2d2, sorry, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite
[19:58] <losha> Emanon: I youtubed it and now it's stuck in my head too...
[19:59] <Emanon> u get the origional version with english subtitles Iosha?
[19:59] <Emanon> the english audio re-release isnt a translation its a different song to the same music
[19:59] <losha> Emanon: no, but that's ok. I definitely heard enough. Some things are better in a language you don't speak....
[19:59] <Emanon> its a love song about an irc bot
[20:00] <losha> Emanon: one day the technology will live up to its promise...
[20:01] <RevTheory247> can some1 help me please
[20:02] <losha> !ask | RevTheory247
[20:02] <RevTheory247> any1
[20:02] <Emanon> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/suspicion.png
[20:02] <FoolishOwl> I'm thinking of trying out Eclipse. I'm a student, learning Perl and C++. Is it a good idea?
[20:02] <MerlinW> re
[20:02] <FirstSgt> how does one access archives in wordpress?
[20:02] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: definetly...it is awsome... I have tried it and have never gone back to anything else
[20:02] <losha> Emanon: :-)
[20:03] <kmaid> Hi my netbook has a copy of unbuntu netbook remix and after an update the desktop broke. There are no i want to say close bar's or start menu just the desktop and icons. Any ideas what to do?
[20:03] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: best part is that the interface works in every* OS
[20:03] <epinky> RevTheory247: ask away
[20:03] <FoolishOwl> b00m_chef, do you use the repository version, or a personal install?
[20:04] <brummbaer> kmaid: not overly familiar w/ the netbook release... does it use gnome, or what DE?
[20:04] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: rep
[20:04] <FirstSgt> how do i get wordpress to read my archives .php.
[20:04] <epinky> FirstSgt: ;?
[20:05] <kmaid> brummbaer: Yes its based on gnome
[20:05] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: there is a problem with the repository version though.  You need to make sure to install JDT,
[20:05] <FirstSgt> epinky: ?
[20:05] <FoolishOwl> One thing I'd wondered about was some minor display glitches -- when I tried the repository version, there were some blank mouseovers on the welcome screen.
[20:05] <brummbaer> kmaid, if you press alt+f2, you should be able to launch gnome-panel
[20:05] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: otherwise you can't install plug-ins...
[20:05] <epinky> FirstSgt: you mean embed php code?
[20:05] <kmaid> brumbaer: sec just booting it up
[20:05] <FirstSgt> epinky: like right after while loop on my home page...
[20:06] <FirstSgt> epinky: how would I create a link for "read more" basically?
[20:06] <FoolishOwl> b00m_chef, is the JDT itself a plugin?
[20:06] <computa_mike> Emanon: hi - I've looked on the UCK page in launchpad - looks like there is a bug for this, but the developer has marked it as invalid.
[20:06] <TopKatz_> if I update my kernel version, should I be able to rebuild a driver (for a raid controler) before I restart the box?
[20:06] <Emanon> oh thanks computa
[20:06] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: no it is in rep
[20:06] <computa_mike> Emanon: i'll try a different iso - aparantly it's some issue with the mime type for 9.10.
[20:07] <dethaddr> so i need some major help.
[20:07] <kmaid> brummbaer: Nothing happens when i press alt+f2
[20:07] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: use Synaptic pkg manager and search eclipse.  Does it really matter whether I use Sun Java or GNU?
[20:07] <FirstSgt> dethaddr: wrong chan
[20:07] <FirstSgt> epinky: thanks
[20:07] <dethaddr> so when i boot my pc its asking me for my login and password, but its still at the boot screen like when grub starts up.
[20:08] <roffe> I need help with FUPPES to reach my xbox
[20:08] <brummbaer> kmaid, if you want to drop to cmd line you can do ctrl+alt+f1 to get to cli, then try running gnome-panel, then ctr+alt+f7 to get back to desktop env
[20:08] <RevTheory247_> can some1 help me please
[20:08] <erUSUL> !ask
[20:08] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: in synaptic you need to install PDE, JDT, and CVS under all eclipse-pde, -jdt, -cvs...
[20:09] <devrim> hello, I have s3 graphics savage4 but i cant find the drivers in ubuntu 9.10. What sould i do???
[20:09] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: no matter the Java...
[20:09] <RevTheory247_> just installed ubuntu yet i cant load anything, cant load software care or install tarballs or flash or anything
[20:09] <TopKatz_> get a new vid card
[20:09] <erUSUL> devrim: man savage4
[20:09] <erUSUL> devrim: man savage
[20:09] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: especially if your not going to be coding in Java
[20:09] <toreador> hello all :)
[20:10] <RevTheory247_> and my wifi wont work
[20:10] <devrim> erUSUL: what di you mean whith that :)
[20:10] <epinky> !elaborate | RevTheory247_
[20:10] <FoolishOwl> b00m_chef, great. Thanks for the help.
[20:10] <RevTheory247_> forget it
[20:10] <erUSUL> devrim: that the dirver is installed by default and aviable in all ubuntu systems
[20:10] <RevTheory247_> ill go back to windows
[20:10] <b00m_chef> FoolishOwl: no prob...welcome to eclipse!   also, check out #eclipse if you have any other questions
[20:11] <FoolishOwl> RevTheory247_, does your Ubuntu box connect to the Internet at all?
[20:11] <RevTheory247_> yeah via mobile broadband
[20:11] <wwalker> I have a server, with no GUI.  What is the correct what to change the timezone?  I tried tzselect; it goes through the motions be doesn't replace /etc/localtime as it should.
[20:11] <RiotingPacifist> !xine
[20:11] <dethaddr> when i boot my pc it says to access official ubuntu documentation , please visit help. ubuntu.com then under that says i have mail
[20:11] <devrim> im trying
[20:12] <FoolishOwl> RevTheory247_, I'd guess the first thing to work on, then, would be to get the wifi working, so you don't have to rely on mobile.
[20:12] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: you need to make sure you have the driver installed for your modem
[20:12] <RevTheory247_> what
[20:13] <MerlinW> wwalker, http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux
[20:13] <toreador> guys can i ask a few things plz cause i ve just installed ubuntu and i am new to this :) or there is an other channel for this
[20:13] <kmaid> brummbaer: I tried to run Gnome-Panel but it says "cannot open display"
[20:13] <MerlinW> google is ur friend ;)
[20:13] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: if you are running 7.10 then there is a known problem with the wireless not working (I had the same problem) though the solution depends on what wireless card you have
[20:13] <Emanon> ask away toreador
[20:13] <RevTheory247_> im on the new verison
[20:13] <toreador> how can i talk with u in private?
[20:14] <Emanon> idk what irc client are you useing?
[20:14] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: im on 9.10
[20:14] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_:  Ubuntu 9.10 - Wireless driver problem - do apt-get update and apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source to get wireless working.
[20:14] <b00m_chef> do it using sudo
[20:14] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: i cant get terminal open to run apt-get
[20:15] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: do those commands using sudo, so "sudo apt-get etc."
[20:15] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: what do you mean?
[20:15] <kn100> Anyone had any experience with setting hotkeys like brightness and volume on XFCE
[20:15] <RevTheory247_> i cant find terminal to do apt-get
[20:15] <kn100> it worked in gnome ubuntu
[20:15] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: from Gnome?
[20:15] <RevTheory247_> yeah
[20:15] <jonrob287> does anyone know how to apply themes to the login screen?
[20:15] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: just do
[20:15] <RevTheory247_> i go into system
[20:15] <RevTheory247_> and its not there
[20:15] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Applications -> accessories -> terminal
[20:16] <RevTheory247_> they moved it from 8 :(
[20:16] <kmaid> What should i do about Gnome-panel saying "cannot open display" on unbuntu netbook remix?
[20:16] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: can you still get internet without your wireless?  I.e. can you still access the apt repository via ethernet or something?
[20:17] <epinky> kmaid: try "export DISPLAY=:0.0"
[20:17] <RevTheory247_> im on mobile broadband
[20:17] <RevTheory247_> so yes
[20:17] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: ok...then just restart into console
[20:17] <toreador> guys does anyone know anything about bash scripting? it will help me alot if i ask him a question
[20:17] <RevTheory247_> cant do it
[20:17] <kmaid> epiky:same :<
[20:18] <epinky> kmaid: sudo xhost +
[20:18] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: it dont work
[20:18] <FoolishOwl> toreador, I know some things.
[20:18] <pjfry1> I have version 9.10 and my Gnometris program will not work ... It is displayed as an available game but I can't remove, or run it.
[20:18] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: one sec
[20:18] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: do you have your Ubuntu CD?
[20:18] <kmaid> epinky "xhost: unable to open display """
[20:18] <RevTheory247_> yes
[20:18] <RevTheory247_> and tried it
[20:19] <epinky> kmaid: echo $DISPLAY
[20:19] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[20:19] <brummbaer> kmaid: gnome may be a bit messed up.. you could try using an alternate panel like tint2 or maybe reinstall gnome.
[20:19] <MerlinW> kn100, .themes/mine/xfwm4/keythemerc
[20:19] <b00m_chef> stick your CD in before that though
[20:19] <glen__> ahaha i thought there was a person behind ubottu - it is quite intelligent...
[20:19] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: stick your CD in first though
[20:19] <kn100> MerlinW, what's that?
[20:19] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  done it
[20:19] <kmaid> epinky: it returned a blank line
[20:19] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: CD in, and synaptic open?\
[20:20] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: yes it is
[20:20] <MerlinW> b00m_chef, i recommending software center for n00bs
[20:20] <MerlinW> its easier
[20:20] <kmaid> brummbaer: How would i reinstall the netbook remixes version?
[20:20] <Neremor> hello!
[20:20] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: search for those apt-get things I mentioned previously
[20:20] <TopKatz_> if I update my kernel version, should I be able to rebuild a driver (for a raid controler) before I restart the box?
[20:20] <MerlinW> kn100, hotkeys...
[20:20] <TopKatz_> I just use make install to build the driver
[20:20] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  nothing
[20:20] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_:  bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:20] <epinky> kmaid: that' the problem, use: "set $DISPLAY=0:0.0"
[20:21] <epinky> kmaid: er, "set $DISPLAY=:0.0"
[20:21] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  found it
[20:21] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: install it
[20:21] <brummbaer> kmaid, sorry, not used it myself, i imagine the details on what you need will be in synaptic. may search for netbook or something
[20:22] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  how do u install it
[20:22] <epinky> kmaid: after that, "sudo export DISPLAY"
[20:22] <kn100> MerlinW, file doesnt exist, there isnt even a .themes
[20:22] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: right click on the checkbox next to the name
[20:22] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  dont matter
[20:22] <MerlinW> hmm
[20:22] <kn100> from ~/ mow
[20:22] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  it doesnt work at all
[20:22] <kn100> now*
[20:22] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: what doesnt?
[20:22] <MerlinW> kn100, its a hidden directory
[20:23] <kmaid> epinky: It says export: command not found
[20:23] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  any of it
[20:23] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Synaptic?
[20:23] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  yep it wants my disc but its in my drive
[20:23] <kn100> MerlinW, i know, and it doesnt exist
[20:23] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: no problem
[20:24] <epinky> kmaid: are you typing it clear?, execute  "which export"
[20:24] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: just click on the RELOAD button in the Synaptic window
[20:24] <eugenio> hi ebody
[20:24] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: And take out your CD
[20:24] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Maybe take your CD out first
[20:24] <kmaid> epinky: which export seems to run
[20:24] <eugenio> i 've a problem with okular
[20:25] <BasiumDeJudas> msg NickServ identify 112293
[20:25] <kmaid> lol.
[20:25] <brummbaer> doh
[20:25] <b00m_chef> Hah
[20:25] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: disc is out

[20:25] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Now click on the RELOAD button in the Synaptic window
[20:25] <epinky> kmaid: ok then use that location "/path/to/export DISPLAY"
[20:25] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Top left (looks like a recycle symbol)
[20:25] <boxxy_> shouldn't Miredo be in the default ubuntu install?
[20:25] <Pelo> how do I get the old login window dalog back in gnome ?
[20:26] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: nope
[20:26] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: what did it do?
[20:26] <kmaid> epinky: it didn't give me a path or anything
[20:26] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: nothing
[20:26] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: no error, no nothing?
[20:26] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  nope
[20:27] <epinky> kmaid: "which export" doesn't give you a path?
[20:27] <MerlinW> kn100, maybe try the fnfxd package
[20:27] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: are you able to browse the internet on that computer right now?  Can you open the web browser and go to google .com ?
[20:27] <MerlinW> its for the FN keys
[20:27] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: yeah im on a web irc
[20:28] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: ok. Then go under Applications->Ubuntu Software Centre
[20:28] <kmaid> epinky: That is correct it didn't return any information after i ran it
[20:28] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: doesnt work wont open
[20:28] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: lol
[20:28] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Go under synaptic then
[20:28] <epinky> kmaid: after you run what?
[20:28] <MerlinW> RevTheory247_, u need a reinstall:D
[20:29] <kmaid> "which export"
[20:29] <MerlinW> something wrong there, or with u:D
[20:29] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Yeah, it sounds like you might have messed something up during install
[20:29] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: i did nothing wrong
[20:29] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: did you follow all the steps and do all the things like setting your time zone and all that?
[20:29] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: yes
[20:30] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: try going under Synaptic
[20:30] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: synaptic is open
[20:30] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Settings->Repositories
[20:30] <Brian> maybe you guys can help me , i went from karmic to opensuse useing my usb to install the distro, always before i could reboot plug in the usb drive hit f12 and pick boot from usb, but after running opensuse i want to go back to check out ubuntu more but all of a sudden when i plug in my usb drive and hit f12 the usb isnt in the boot menu, it always worked before but now , out of nowhere its not in the menu
[20:30] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: done
[20:30] <Subby> Hi I have a problem with the remote desktop. I activated it and can connect with vinagre or tightvnc. On the remote machine I can see the mouse movement and I can drag and move windows etc. but un the client there seems to be no sceen update. the screen stays the same all the time
[20:31] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Select everything you see on the first 2 tabs
[20:31] <epinky> kmaid: are you using bash?
[20:31] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Select = click on the check boxes
[20:31] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: what?
[20:32] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: check all the boxes on the first 3 tabs on the Repositories window that opens under Synaptic
[20:32] <kmaid> CLI
[20:32] <neurodamage> so when I click cloud on the amazon web page, why is the amazon EC2 the only thing documented there
[20:32] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: nothin openned
[20:32] <epinky> kmaid: echo $SHELL
[20:32] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Under the Synaptic window, you went to the Settings menu, and then clicked on Repositories?
[20:33] <kmaid> epinky:/bin/bash
[20:33] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Are you in the repositories window?
[20:33] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: NO
[20:33] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: because it says repositories have changed
[20:33] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  all the time
[20:33] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: thats good
[20:33] <epinky> kmaid: ok, then "export DISPLAY" should work
[20:33] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: and what happens when you click reload?
[20:33] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  it reloads
[20:34] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Good
[20:34] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: what happens when you click on the "Mark all Upgrades button" in the Synaptic window?
[20:34] <kmaid> epinky: It really doesnt. I type it in and press enter and it just gives me a new linke to enter the a command into
[20:34] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  it selects about a thousand
[20:35] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: what happens when you click "Apply" button under synaptic?
[20:35] <epinky> kmaid: ok, that's ok, type "echo $?"
[20:35] <lorph> is there a way to get the fancy ubuntu 9.04 screen profile in ubuntu 8.03
[20:35] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: downloading something
[20:36] <kmaid> epinky: just echos out $ on the next line
[20:36] <Subby> is there an alternative to vino? it doesnt work very well
[20:36] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: when it is done installing all those things, restart your computer, and try going to Synaptic again and searching for bcmwl-kernel-source right click on it, select install, and click the APPLY button
[20:36] <epinky> kmaid: "echo $?" with an '?'
[20:36] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Unless your wireless works when you restart...could happen
[20:36] <kmaid> lol sorry
[20:37] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  it will want my cd again
[20:37] <kmaid> epinky: 0
[20:37] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: So just wait for it to finish installing
[20:37] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: stick it in the drive
[20:37] <epinky> kmaid: ok, now "echo $DISPLAY"
[20:37] <RediXe> Trying to mount /dev/sda3 but I want it to mount as my user "steven" not root.
[20:37] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  fine if it dont work ill go back to windows
[20:37] <kmaid> epinky: Still a blank line
[20:38] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: sometimes thats what you gotta do...but it sounds like you may have screwed up your installation somehow
[20:38] <Emanon> watch your language
[20:38] <epinky> kmaid: if succesful it should look like ":0.0"
[20:38] <Emanon> :-)
[20:38] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  i didnt tho i just did it like i last did install unbuntu
[20:38] <Subby> what is a good vnc-server?
[20:39] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: if you are willing to try again, you could download and make a CD of Ubuntu 9.9 or some version before 9.10...everything should work fine right away
[20:39] <wrapster> any first person shooter games available on ubuntu.. thought i could play during my free time from work?
[20:39] <siavash_> does any one know , how to config Openvpn to Have a connection with Dyndns.org account
[20:39] <siavash_> ?
[20:39] <Emanon> yes wrapster sec forgot the name
[20:39] <epinky> kmaid: try "export DISPLAY=0:0"
[20:39] <kmaid> epinky: I run "set $DISPLAY:=0.0" and then "echo $DISPLAY" and it still comes up at a blank line
[20:39] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef:  cant it will take about 48hr to download it
[20:39] <Alan502> Whats the "demultiplexer plugin" for playing dvds?
[20:39] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Version 9.10 of Ubuntu had a problem with the wireless. I had the same problem.
[20:40] <rawr_> wrapster, americas army, very decent game
[20:40] <guntbert> kmaid: use export $DISPLAY
[20:40] <losha> kmaid: set DISPLAY:=0.0  (lose the $ sign in the set command)
[20:40] <wrapster> rawr_: ok..
[20:40] <kmaid> "DISPLAY=0:0" not "$DISPLAY:=0.0"
[20:40] <kmaid> ?
[20:40] <wrapster> rawr_: anything else?
[20:40] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: You didn't delete windows did you?  I mean, you have both installed right?
[20:40] <Emanon> Nexuiz
[20:40] <rawr_> wrapster, also doom 3
[20:40] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_:  windows & Linux?
[20:40] <wrapster> oh. doom 3
[20:40] <kmaid> kk
[20:40] <wrapster> nice...
[20:40] <rawr_> wrapster, enemy territory
[20:40] <Emanon> wrapster http://linuxappfinder.com/games/firstpersonshooters
[20:40] <wrapster> rawr_: where are the lists of games
[20:40] <rawr_> wrapster, tremulous is interesting too
[20:40] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: nope i couldnt partion my hard disk
[20:41] <abys> wrapster ?
[20:41] <kmaid> Its still the same
[20:41] <epinky> kmaid: "export DISPLAY=0:0"  ?
[20:41] <[SilverFox]> I got my video drivers and such installed working okday but I find clicking things sometimes gives me a 1-2 sec delay. I wonder there some type of program that maybe throttling my KDE?
[20:41] <abys> i like warsow
[20:41] <kmaid> epinky: that worked
[20:41] <AussieBobby> google open source games
[20:42] <Pelo> #join #gdm
[20:42] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: i have windows 7 so i can install it again and get my drivers via mobile broadband
[20:42] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Anyways...I gotta go... Linux requires patience...and if you are not used to the console...it may be too much for you... You may want to partition your hard-drive properly first, before you install Linux again. So you have Windows still installed, and can go back to it if necessary
[20:42] <kmaid> epinky: $echo $DISPLAY now says "0:0" but gnome-panel still says "canot open display"
[20:42] <losha> kmaid: oops, it's bash, no 'set' and no :=
[20:42] <RevTheory247_> b00m_chef: ive used linux before
[20:43] <epinky> kmaid: now:  " xhost +"
[20:43] <RiotingPacifist> how do i add mp3 support to xine?
[20:43] <siavash_> Any info on OpenVPN ???
[20:43] <siavash_> Any info on OpenVPN ???
[20:43] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: though, I gave you the solution, you have to fool around with Synaptic a bit and with your repositories...if it doesn't work, just give up and come back when you get sick on windows ;)
[20:43] <zamba> i'm having huge problems getting decent video performance in X.. running ubuntu and got 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[20:43] <zamba> siavash_: #openvpn, and don't repeatr
[20:43] <Alan502> Whats the "demultiplexer plugin" for playing dvds?
[20:43] <losha> RevTheory247_: why not run vmware/virtualbox, so you can stay in windows while you explore linux at your leisure...
[20:44] <RiotingPacifist> !dvd
[20:44] <kmaid> epinky: unable to open display "0:0"
[20:44] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: as I say though, if the Synaptic upgrade you are running right now doesn't work just fool around with it
[20:44] <RevTheory247_> its installing now
[20:44] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: if you are able to though, try and try to install the bcmwl-kernel-source driver
[20:44] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, i followed that guide but kaffeine asks for the demultiplexer plugin anyway
[20:44] <epinky> kmaid: "export DISPLAY=0:0.0"
[20:45] <epinky> kmaid: copy it clear
[20:45] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: I am pretty sure that should fix your problem...another way to install it is to download the .deb file via the internet browser (firefox), and install it from the file directly
[20:45] <RiotingPacifist> Alan502: tbh i have no idea, have you tried  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:45] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, forgot that part, thanks
[20:45] <b00m_chef> RevTheory247_: Hopefully the Upgrade completes successfully and you can then install the bcmwl-kernel-source file though...good luck!
[20:46] <RiotingPacifist> i dont think thats a multiplexer though, i think kaffine needs kubuntu-restricted extras
[20:46] <dim0> #ugov.be
[20:46] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, i have already installed that package as well
[20:46] <Alan502> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:47] <myissam> linuxac#
[20:47] <myissam> #linuxac
[20:48] <kmaid> epinky: " xhost +" says "unable to open display "0:0.0"
[20:48] <ubuntusiak> how do i burn cds while running ubuntu live cd?
[20:48] <RiotingPacifist> Alan502:  hmm i dunno, if that script doesn't work all i can suggest trying an alternative players
[20:48] <AJF355> Im going to be the next hitler, Im going to kill all the jews and 1 clown
[20:48] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, could it be because my movie is copy protected?
[20:48] <centHOGG> Hi, is there a way with du or another command to get a recursive directory listing of the filenames and their size? Thanks in advance
[20:48] <epinky> kmaid: ok, this is very odd, are you using gnome?
[20:48] <RediXe> Trying to mount /dev/sda3 but I want it to mount as my user not root.
[20:48] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, i cannot get to play it in windows neither
[20:48] <kmaid> AJF353: Why the clown?
[20:48] <ffffff> i dont think the next hitler would have nearly as bad sense of humor
[20:49] <Emanon> AJF we all know that joke
[20:49] <AJF355> balls oh well worth a shot :) byee
[20:49] <tobiasz> hi, is there any way of getting audacity to record anything in 9.10?
[20:49] <losha> ubuntusiak: if you only have one cd drive, I'm not sure it's possible. There *are* distros that run entirely in memory after boot (I think knoppix does that). One of those would work...
[20:49] <kmaid> epinky: i am using the netbook remix which uses gnome im pretty sure :x
[20:50] <Alan502> tobiasz, what do you mean?
[20:50] <RiotingPacifist> Alan502: decss should fix that, unless its blueray/hddvd
[20:50] <tobiasz> Alan502 I mean that audacity does not work in 9.10 due to pulse audio mess :P
[20:50] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, decss? and no it is not blueray or hdd
[20:50] <ubuntusiak> losha: thank you very much.
[20:50] <Alan502> tobiasz, does your microphone work in other applications?
[20:50] <RiotingPacifist> Alan502: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:50] <tobiasz> ye
[20:50] <epinky> kmaid: are you on a SSH session?
[20:50] <chasedawg1> Does anyone now how to fix LMMS problems?
[20:51] <ph33r> hi, could anyone tell me how "Show Desktop" works in compiz ? I just can't get it to work
[20:52] <kmaid> epinky: I pressed "ctrl + alt + shift + 1" on the machine itself
[20:52] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, already ran the script, althought it ended with "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place", dont know if that's correct
[20:52] <Alan502> Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
[20:52] <Alan502> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[20:52] <Alan502> tobiasz, so the problem is audacity only?
[20:52] <guntbert> kmaid: so you are in the virtual terminal - there is no access to X there
[20:53] <epinky> kmaid: :D
[20:53] <tobiasz> Alan502 only
[20:53] <kmaid> guntbert: x? I am sorry i am pretty noob with linux my netbook is my first venture
[20:53] <Alan502> hnnn nevermind then i dont have much experience with audacity
[20:53] <RiotingPacifist> Alan502: that sounds right, try closing kaffine and trying again
[20:53] <Mike_lifeguard> ph33r: you hit the key combo and your windows should minimize
[20:54] <Alan502> probably reinstalling? did you installed the one on the repositories? tobiasz
[20:54] <ph33r> Mike_lifeguard: yeah got it, was just wondering if I could do the aero peek thing hehe
[20:54] <Mike_lifeguard> ph33r: I don't know what that is, can you describe it?
[20:54] <ph33r> Mike_lifeguard: aero peek ?
[20:54] <Mike_lifeguard> ph33r: yes
[20:55] <ph33r> Mike_lifeguard: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/peek
[20:55] <guntbert> kmaid: sorry - xwindow (short x) is the way you can access a GUI in linux - but you switched to the console - if you just want your graphical display back, type <ALT> F7
[20:55] <Ash`> A coworker and I are having a very annoying problem on 9.10:  randomly all visual effects will just turn off, necessitating going back into the appearance settings and turning them on again.  Anyone else run into this, and more importantly, know how to fix it?
[20:55] <RiotingPacifist> how do i add mp3 support to xine?
[20:55] <zenwryly> Is there a way I can get aptitude (or apt) to tell me which source is generating an "Err" line on update (karmic/main File not found)?
[20:56] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, nope, kaffeine is just like "MATRIX_REALODED_DISC_1" and after less than a second "STOPPED"
[20:56] <losha> RiotingPacifist: I think you need the medibuntu stuff...
[20:56] <kmaid> guntbert: The problem is gnome-pannel is not loading so i dont have any menus or close/resize bars
[20:56] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, i'll try with vlc
[20:56] <losha> !medibuntu | RiotingPacifist
[20:56] <flaxflix> hi everybody
[20:57] <ph33r> Mike_lifeguard: got the link ?
[20:57] <RiotingPacifist> losha: i've installed all of that and still no demuxer :(
[20:57] <roffe> Could anyone help me with FUPPES
[20:57] <Mike_lifeguard> ph33r: Yeah, I'm not aware of a comparable feature in compiz. You might submit a feature request though
[20:57] <flaxflix> there is some one ho knows about the virtualbox
[20:57] <Alan502> RiotingPacifist, working with VLC! thanks :)
[20:57] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | flaxflix
[20:57] <flaxflix> ok thanks
[20:58] <ph33r> Mike_lifeguard: it could be possible, if only I could make a launcher for "show desktop" in dockbarx
[20:58] <Ash`> and if they don't answer, repost ad infinitum! >:]
[20:58] <guntbert> kmaid: if you want a terminal within your desktop press <ALT>F2 and there type gnome-terminal
[20:58] <losha> RiotingPacifist: do some googling on xine-mp3 is all I have left to suggest then...
[20:58] <kmaid> guntbert: alt f2 does not work
[20:58] <duffydack> ph33r, there is a plugin to do it...just cant remember what/how
[20:59] <ph33r> duffydack: there is ? for aero peek ?
[20:59] <duffydack> ph33r,  like fade to desktop or something.
[20:59] <RiotingPacifist> losha:  ok thx
[20:59] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah checked them out
[20:59] <duffydack> ph33r, ive seen it used
[20:59] <notelofumes> hola alguien me puede ayudar en espa├▒ol
[20:59] <RiotingPacifist> !es
[20:59] <Flannel> !es | notelofumes
[20:59] <Ash`> Has anyone had their visual effects randomly turn off?  It keeps happening to a coworker and i, and it's getting extremely frustrating.
[21:00] <notelofumes> !es
[21:00] <Ash`> I shall take that as a no. ;[
[21:00] <guntbert> kmaid: next try: if you right click on your desktop, do you get a menu?
[21:00] <tobiasz> Alan502 still same, it does not record I cannot choose audacity in "recording" in volume control in pavucontrol
[21:00] <kmaid> guntbert: Yes i do
[21:00] <losha> RiotingPacifist: http://ubuntulog.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/xine-mp3-codecs ?
[21:00] <notelofumes> yo solo se hablar espa├▒ol veo que esto no es muy abierto al mundo
[21:00] <tobiasz> audacity seems like incompatibile with pulse, so why is it in repos
[21:01] <trijntje> !sp
[21:01] <trijntje> !esp
[21:01] <guntbert> kmaid: select "create launcher"
[21:01] <Emanon> !es | notelofumes
[21:01] <Spec> tobiasz: Who would take audacity out of the repositories? o.O
[21:01] <ubuntusiak> i am running live cd. how can i save my setting?(persistent) when i didnt choose persistent during boot?
[21:01] <kmaid> guntbert: the widows a little fcked but its shown up
[21:01] <trijntje> Emanon, thanks, I was trying to do that
[21:01] <tobiasz> Spec audacity doesn't work in 9.10 so why is it in repos
[21:01] <Emanon> i know
[21:02] <Spec> tobiasz: Because you can get it to work most likely and it's an awesome application?
[21:02] <Alan502> tobiasz, let me install audacity here to see if i can help you...
[21:02] <Spec> furthermore, there are pulse audio wrappers....
[21:02] <kmaid> gunbert: ok i have a Gnome-terminal
[21:02] <tobiasz> Spec it is awesome, and it doesn't work in 9.10 with pulse audio
[21:02] <guntbert> kmaid: as Name choose Terminal, and in command type gnome-terminal, then close the dialog
[21:03] <Ash`> How do I prevent my visual effects in 9.10 from turning off?
[21:03] <tobiasz> 9.04 had much better sound manager
[21:03] <Spec> padsp - pulse audio OSS wrapper
[21:03] <Rezzoniko_AWAY> -=^=-> BuDuScRiPt <-=^=- [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft ] X-Chat Plug-in by UDA'Software (V. 3.1.54)
[21:03] <duffydack> ph33r, tried the opacity ones
[21:03] <guntbert> kmaid: nice, thats where I tried to get you to :-)
[21:03] <Emanon> Ash` System>Preferences>Appearance
[21:03] <ph33r> duffydack: means ?
[21:03] <pjfry1> Audacity seems to be working on my system ... I have 9.10
[21:03] <Emanon> last tab click 2nd or third radial buttons
[21:03] <duffydack> ph33r, like transparency
[21:04] <Ash`> Emanon: not my question; they randomly turn off on their own, and it's getting very frustrating.
[21:04] <Neremor> I've a problem with replacing a substring in bash. I use this command: echo "${f//[a-zA-Z0-9]\//  }" this should turn "Any Interpret/Any Song.mp3" to "  Any Song.mp3". But It only does this: "Any Interpre  Any Song.mp3"... So it only searches for one character of the type [a-zA-Z0-9], not every char that is there of that type. any idea how to solve that?
[21:04] <losha> Spec: I've had good luck with this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[21:04] <duffydack> ph33r, either way, fade to desktop setup properly should do what you want..
[21:04] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah a bit, anything new would be good
[21:04] <Emanon> oh idk then sorry
[21:04] <kmaid> guntbert: sick gnome-panel ran but u nnussug akkit
[21:04] <kmaid> lol
[21:04] <tobiasz> pjfry1 did you uninstall pulse or something? What do you've got in audacity>edit>preferences>devices
[21:04] <pero> lol
[21:04] <duffydack> ph33r, check the web for new plugins
[21:05] <kmaid> guntbert: gnome panel is running but theres still allot of missing intterface
[21:05] <ph33r> duffydack: compiz webby to start with ?
[21:05] <duffydack> ph33r, quite a lot available that arent part of repo set
[21:05] <tobiasz> pjfry1 in pavucontrol audacity does not appear as a recording application
[21:05] <duffydack> ph33r, browse the compiz site for a start :)
[21:05] <Spec> tobiasz: You've tried padsp?
[21:05] <tobiasz> Spec Alan502 pjfry1 in pavucontrol audacity does not appear as a recording application
[21:05] <guntbert> kmaid: sorry, that are things I cannot help you with
[21:06] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah, doing that, thank you a lot man :) Mike_lifeguard too :)
[21:06] <trism> Neremor: why not just use $(basename ${filename})
[21:06] <kmaid> guntbert: You have given me a new "libglade-warning unexpected element" error message to look into thanks
[21:06] <duffydack> ph33r, ive never needed to see the desktop myself so i dont know.. expo/scale is all i need from compiz.
[21:07] <tobiasz> Spec padsp?
[21:07] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah, I personally don't need them much, it's only to tease my classmates who paid 320 USD and got win7 :D
[21:07] <Spec> tobiasz: is audacity trying to access sound via OSS?
[21:08] <tobiasz> Spec Alsa
[21:08] <Spec> !info padsp
[21:08] <Guest> hello, i am an amateur when it comes to foreign software on ubuntu
[21:08] <Spec> err
[21:08] <Guest> i have a question regarding the installation of a certain theme using emerald
[21:08] <Spec> tobiasz: hmm, well, padsp is a pulse audio wrapper for oss, I thought alsa worked transparently with pulse?
[21:08] <subito> hi, i have a program that is running, can i stop it, then switch off my computer and continue my computation later?
[21:08] <pjfry1> I haven't done much to my system ... it was an upgrade and I notice Audacity still is listed and comes up when I select it.
[21:08] <duffydack> ph33r, ah well, you have an arsenal of plugins to do that already :)
[21:09] <Guest> hello?
[21:09] <Guest> hi
[21:09] <FreeFull> Guest: Hi?
[21:09] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah, just need this peek working to piss them off completely :D
[21:09] <RediXe> Trying to mount /dev/sda3 but I want it to mount as my user not root. Any idea's?
[21:09] <Bigrobc> what channel should i join to get help installing a Canon Pixma MX850 on ubuntu via usb
[21:09] <Guest> do i need to be referred?
[21:09] <guntbert> subito: if you suspend/hibernate you computer - yes
[21:09] <hellborn> #awmn
[21:09] <Guest> or can i simply ask a question...?
[21:09] <losha> Neremor: try ${f//[a-zA-Z0-9]*\//}
[21:09] <guntbert> !ask | guest
[21:09] <subito> guntbert: no i want to switch it off and restart on windows
[21:09] <Guest> ok
[21:09] <Guest> so
[21:10] <duffydack> ph33r, i think they should already be p'd off with being 320 dollars poorer
[21:10] <Guest> um
[21:10] <ph33r> duffydack: unfortunately, they ain't :(
[21:10] <Guest> i have a question regarding the installation of a certain theme using emerald
[21:10] <quentusrex> Alright, anyone know of an existing bug in Karmic that would require '/etc/init.d/networking restart' after boot up? for proper network to work???
[21:10] <Guest> emerald theme manager
[21:10] <Neremor> thanks, but that didn't solve it -> now simply everything is matched, because * includes / also...
[21:10] <FreeFull> quentusrex: No
[21:10] <guntbert> subito: not that I know - sorry
[21:10] <trijntje> Guest: try to keep your question on one line, and give full details
[21:10] <FreeFull> Guest: Just ask
[21:11] <Guest> i just did
[21:11] <Guest> i think
[21:11] <Guest> i will clarify then
[21:11] <quentusrex> FreeFull, I'm running a server with nfs mounts(nfs client not server) and kvm virtual servers
[21:11] <losha> quentusrex: not offhand, but you could check in launchpad. What does ifconfig -a look like before & after?
[21:11] <Guest> How do I apply a theme using Emerald Theme
[21:11] <Guest> Emerald THeme manager?
[21:11] <quentusrex> but after every reboot I need to manually at the console type: 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[21:11] <FreeFull> quentusrex: I never heard of this bug before
[21:12] <losha> quentusrex: if you don't, what do you get?
[21:12] <VCoolio> Guest: make sure emerald is your window decorator and not gtk; run "emerald --replace" or use fusion-icon
[21:12] <duffydack> ph33r, just crcank up your compiz animations with fire and plane, get a nice animated skydome, lots to pee them off with
[21:12] <Emanon> anyone have any trouble with a direct Windows Boot after using the windows partition via virtualbox?
[21:12] <quentusrex> losha, no networking is what I get....
[21:12] <Guest> vcoolio: i will try that...
[21:12] <quentusrex> box is unresponsive from the outside....
[21:12] <duffydack> ph33r, peak/fade is a pretty insignificant effect
[21:12] <ph33r> duffydack: hehehe, you are realy evil.. like me :D
[21:12] <Ash`> I used to have that problem on fedora 10 - networking would die on boot, necessitating a restart of it
[21:12] <Deathvalley122> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8499017#post8499017
[21:12] <Emanon> then just put sudo /etc/init.d/networking start in the startup manager
[21:13] <Emanon> easy fix
[21:13] <losha> quentusrex: no outgoing pings either?
[21:13] <Ash`> easy hack*
[21:13] <losha> Emanon: *lazy* fix
[21:13] <ph33r> duffydack: I have the fire, rain, wobbly windows, cube, blur windows
[21:13] <Emanon> yea and?
[21:13] <Ash`> dirty bandaid*
[21:13] <ubuntusiak> how do i save settings and installed apps while running live cd?
[21:13] <Emanon> true
[21:13] <ph33r> duffydack: and yeah scale!!!
[21:13] <khomfy> hello,i have a question: How can i change the smtp port in evolutin mail? can someone  help me?
[21:13] <losha> Emanon: just that personally I like to do a bit of triage before I slap on a band-aid....
[21:13] <Guest> wonderful
[21:13] <Guest> I think i just broke my computer
[21:13] <trism> Neremor: oops, sorry, you'd need to quote it, echo $(basename "${FILENAME}")
[21:13] <Emanon> then feel free
[21:13] <thevishy> why ?
[21:14] <VCoolio> ubuntusiak: that's not possible
[21:14] <Ash`> same @ losha
[21:14] <duffydack> ph33r, shift switcher is quite nice too
[21:14] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah that too
[21:14] <Guest> thank you vcoolio
[21:14] <quentusrex> losha, I don't think so
[21:14] <Guest> your solution worked
[21:14] <Guest> vcoolio: how do I switch back?
[21:14] <VCoolio> Guest: metacity --replace
[21:14] <Emanon> i prefer ring switcher myself
[21:14] <Guest> ahh, thank yo
[21:14] <Guest> you
[21:14] <Emanon> but thats just a preference thing
[21:14] <losha> quentusrex: Back to basic troubleshooting then: What does ifconfig -a look like before & after?
[21:14] <[SilverFox]> kget is not transfering the sites login info from firefox to kget is there a way to login to a download site like Rapidshare via kget?
[21:15] <heruka> hello, i have some problems with the network-manager in gnome. it keeps showing "wired network disconnected" and then "auto eth2 connection established" every few seconds. does anyone know why that might be?
[21:15] <VCoolio> Guest: if you intend to switch often and want to keep settings on a new boot / login, use fusion-icon
[21:15] <duffydack> ph33r, get a wii remote and use that :)
[21:15] <guntbert> !who | Emanon
[21:15] <quentusrex> losha, I'll check in a moment
[21:15] <VirusTB> HOW DO I find the list of kernela i have installed (just upgradead and want to use this command sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.**-**-generic
[21:15] <pjfry1> My Gnometris doesn't work ... it is listed but it doesn't run ... I tried to uninstall but couldn't ... any ideas??
[21:15] <ph33r> duffydack: rofl
[21:15] <Emanon> heruka might be bad cable u try the cable on another system?
[21:16] <VirusTB> HOW DO I find the list of kernels i have installed (just upgraded and want to use this command { sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.**-**-generic }
[21:16] <heruka> Emanon: it doesnt actually drop the connection
[21:16] <Guest> vcoolio:
[21:16] <heruka> Emanon: i'm continuously connected
[21:16] <Guest> vcoolio: your solution did not work
[21:16] <trism> VirusTB: dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ii
[21:16] <VCoolio> does anyone happen to know how to compile byobu (the old screen-profiles)? there is no configure file
[21:16] <Emanon> heruka ahh just annoying spam about it being connected?
[21:16] <trism> VirusTB: that will list the installed kernels
[21:16] <mbana> how do i repopulate the grub menu?
[21:16] <Alan502> !es | notelofumes
[21:17] <VCoolio> Guest: what solution? the metacity one?
[21:17] <heruka> Emanon: yes, connection established... then disconnected... then connection established... then disconnected
[21:17] <guntbert> VCoolio: its in the repos
[21:17] <Guest> vcoolio: no the emerald one
[21:17] <duffydack> ph33r, dude, there is a plugin called peek
[21:17] <heruka> Emanon: constantly flashing windows
[21:17] <heruka> Emanon: /notifications
[21:17] <Guest> vcoolio: when i close terminal, it stops the window decorator
[21:17] <Guest> all of them
[21:17] <ph33r> duffydack: what ? I could not find it even experimental plugins!!!
[21:17] <VirusTB> trnak trism
[21:17] <VirusTB> thanks
[21:17] <duffydack> ph33r, http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/compiz-stuff/
[21:17] <Guest> vcoolio: how do i keep emerald as my window decorator?
[21:17] <VCoolio> guntbert: I know, but I want the newest from their own repo because a bug I filed was fixed
[21:17] <Emanon> heruka sec i remember shutting off network notifications on my moms computer gotta remember where
[21:18] <Guest> vcoolio: like permanently until i revert to metacity again
[21:18] <VCoolio> Guest: use the alt+f2 box to run "emerald --replace"
[21:18] <opticon> maybe someone can help me figure something out is their away to use webmin without the ssl cert?
[21:18] <Guest> vcoolio: okay
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest: press alt+f2 and launch the command that way
[21:18] <VCoolio> Guest: or do "nohup emerald --replace &" in a terminal, then you can close it without the process being killed
[21:19] <Emanon> heruka use gconf-editor (through terminal or run dialogue) expand apps go to nm applet and check the first two boxes
[21:19] <ph33r> duffydack: ok, there is... now let me read up on how to install that
[21:19] <Guest> vcoolio: it works now
[21:19] <Emanon> heruka nm-applet sorry
[21:19] <guntbert> VCoolio: byobu is (on my system) just a /usr/bin/byobu: POSIX shell script text executable
[21:19] <Guest> so the shortcut is alt f2
[21:19] <Guest> thank you vcoolio
[21:19] <brummbaer> opticon, the url you're looking at is like https://localhost:10000 right?
[21:19] <trism> VCoolio: doesn't look like you need to compile anything, the byobu command just runs screen -c /usr/share/byobu/profiles/byoburc
[21:19] <Guest> vcoolio: i simply use the same alt-f2 to revert back to metacity, correct?
[21:19] <brummbaer> opticon, doesn't your browser give you the option to just add the exception?
[21:19] <RediXe> How can I mount /dev/sda3 to /media/Storage where my user has rwx access to it? Everything I try gives root rwx and me r-x and root owns it.
[21:19] <VCoolio> Guest: correct
[21:20] <Guest> vcoolio: thank you
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> RediXe: what file system is it?
[21:20] <RediXe> ext3
[21:20] <opticon> nevermind i got it
[21:20] <trism> VCoolio: and the source just seems to have shell scripts
[21:20] <opticon> can turn ssl off via webmin
[21:20] <VCoolio> trism: guntbert thanks, so what do I do with the source files I downloaded? I can run it from that folder I think;
[21:20] <guntbert> !webmin | opticon but
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> RediXe: sudo mkdir /media/Storage; sudo mounnt /dev/sda3 /media/Storage -t ext3 -o uid=1000,rw
[21:21] <guntbert> VCoolio: thats what I would do
[21:21] <opticon> wow really i just got it working like i wanted for basic workgroup
[21:21] <Emanon> SctionParsnip misspelled mount
[21:21] <Emanon> and i misspelled that name
[21:21] <VirusTB> trism,  how do I remove Memtest+86 from my grub? (remove from system also)
[21:21] <Guest> vcoolio: i have a problem
[21:22] <VCoolio> Guest: speak
[21:22] <guntbert> Emanon: you can <tab> completions with nicks in here too
[21:22] <Guest> vcoolio: you stated that if i used the same technique and acitivated metactiy, it would revert to default
[21:22] <Emanon> oh thanks guntbert
[21:22] <Guest> vcoolio: however, that was not teh case
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: ironic huh
[21:22] <Emanon> thats gonna save some serious time
[21:22] <losha> ActionParsnip: I didn't think uid was an option for ext3. It's not in my man page....
[21:22] <VCoolio> Guest: what happened?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: depends on client
[21:22] <Guest> vcoolio: my desktop is now inoperable
[21:23] <Emanon> Totally ActionParsnip
[21:23] <trism> VirusTB: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+; sudo update-grub;
[21:23] <Guest> i cannot access the awn dock
[21:23] <RediXe> ActionParsnip, [ 3401.813828] EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value
[21:23] <VirusTB> WOW! I bootd my ubuntu  in 5 seconds!
[21:23] <baddog> VirusTB: :o
[21:23] <guntbert> Emanon: indeed
[21:23] <baddog> nice
[21:23] <Guest> vcoolio: and my widgets are now visible
[21:23] <heruka> Emanon: didnt work :/
[21:23] <losha> VirusTB: how d'you get such a fast boot?
[21:23] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: sure? I thought that was a server feature - see !tab
[21:23] <heruka> Emanon: or... i tried log out and then log in
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> RediXe: 1000 is your first user. I dont think you need it with ext3 due to permissions being stored in ext3
[21:23] <VirusTB> baddog,  i know! thats the fastest I ever seen!
[21:23] <heruka> Emanon: but it's still flashing
[21:23] <VCoolio> Guest: were you using compiz? try "compiz --replace" and checkout fusion-icon, very helpful to switch
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: doesnt work in pidgin / carrier
[21:24] <opticon> is there something else like webmin supported under ubuntu?
[21:24] <VirusTB> losha,  i uninstalled all the stuff on it :P (bag round tastks)
[21:24] <Emanon> heruka: sorry then guess someone else is going to have to help you fix it for real instead of just making it shut up
[21:24] <baddog> VirusTB: how'd you do it? XD
[21:24] <baddog> ah
[21:24] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: noted :-)
[21:24] <Emanon> !webmin | opticon
[21:24] <Guest> vcoolio: it works now
[21:24] <VirusTB> losha,  and no fancy graphics :P
[21:24] <Guest> vcoolio: does that mean my default theme manager is comiz?
[21:24] <Emanon> !ebox | opticon
[21:25] <trism> VirusTB: although if you really wanted to remove it from the system, sudo apt-get purge memtest86+
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> RediXe: try without the uuid, just use -o rw
[21:25] <VCoolio> Guest: no your window manager is compiz and your window decorator is metacity
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> RediXe: instead of -o rw,uid=100
[21:25] <Guest> vcoolio: simplify/clarify please, im still an amateur at this stuff
[21:25] <heruka> Emanon: switched to wicd now
[21:26] <Emanon> heruka:  it help?
[21:26] <heruka> Emanon: seems to be working just as well
[21:26] <heruka> Emanon: and no flashing!
[21:26] <Emanon> heruka: cool
[21:26] <heruka> Emanon: yuP!
[21:26] <losha> ActionParsnip: I didn't think uid was an option for ext3. It's not in my man page. RediXe: I think you either need to make user the owner of all the files/directories, or put the user into a group and give the filesystem g=rwx and make it all belong to group'
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> losha: sounds like a plan
[21:27] <VCoolio> Guest: the window manager manages windows (gdm, compiz, openbox, e17 there are lots); a window decorator rules your theme (gtk, qt for kde etc); emerald only manages your window borders so isn't even really a window decorator
[21:27] <CarlFK> What happened to the voip client? eukigina or something
[21:27] <VirusTB> how do i install gnome-do on netbook remix???
[21:27] <erUSUL> ekiga
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: you mean ekiga ?
[21:27] <Guest> Vcoolio: so that means emerald only managers the borders,
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: same as any ubuntu desktop
[21:27] <Guest> Vcoolio: how would i get the default back?
[21:28] <Guest> Vcoolio: the one that comes with ubuntu as default
[21:28] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  ok lol i mennt have it docked n the tray
[21:28] <VirusTB> mean*
[21:28] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: yeah - that
[21:28] <turtle__> hello
[21:28] <VCoolio> Guest: yes, the inside is still gtk; the default is metacity but with 'metacity --replace' you also disable compiz;
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa
[21:28] <thevishy> anyone with xfce ?
[21:28] <erUSUL> CarlFK: not longer installed by default but still aviable in the repositories
[21:28] <thevishy> on ubuntu i.e
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: that i don't know
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | thevishy
[21:29] <Guest> Vcoolio: so that means ive permanently devoted my computer to the new decorator?
[21:29] <[SilverFox]> Anyone here use VMware should I stick to windows xp only or does windows 7 work without lag? for things like compiling and such.
[21:29] <CarlFK> erUSUL: any idea why it fell off the default install? (wondering if something else took it's place)
[21:29] <Guest> Vcoolio:  or is there a way to revert
[21:29] <turtle__> does anyone know if life is worth living?
[21:29] <Guest> Vcoolio: like disable emerald or something...
[21:29] <FreeFull> thevishy: I am
[21:29] <jamiejackson> hi folks. i need to set up a local proxy to do upstream authentication. i haven't used proxy software before. is squid my best bet?
[21:29] <hiatus777> So, I installed ssh server on my desktop. Now what the heck do I do?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> [SilverFox]: not an ubuntu question is it, ask in #vmware
[21:29] <erUSUL> CarlFK: empathy has
[21:30] <[SilverFox]> did not know there was a vmware thanks ActionParsnip
[21:30] <CarlFK> erUSUL: that's what I figured.  thanks
[21:30] <VCoolio> Guest did 'compiz --replace' give you the emerald borders? install fusion-icon for heavens sake and use that
[21:30] <Guest> Vcoolio: yes, using the compiz replace did give the emerald borders
[21:30] <duffydack> ph33r, sorted it?
[21:30] <VCoolio> Guest: it's an icon in your tray bar and on right click let's you switch compiz / metacity / gtk and all
[21:31] <thevishy> FreeFull, whats your take on it ? is it faster than gnome
[21:31] <Anorion|eee> I'm using UNR, and I accidentally dragged an application icon and now it shows up under the launcher background. How in the world can I delete it?
[21:31] <ph33r> duffydack: yeah, but it is pretty much fade windows
[21:31] <Guest> Vcoolio: no idea
[21:31] <Guest> Vcoolio: i dont have a button
[21:31] <FreeFull> thevishy: It is faster than Gnome because it doesn't have as much eyecandy
[21:31] <duffydack> ph33r, well thats all its doing anyway...
[21:31] <thevishy> right
[21:31] <Guest> Vcoolio: should i install it via synaptic or ubuntu software mngr
[21:31] <VCoolio> Guest: first install fusion-icon, then alt+f2 to run fusion-icon and use it
[21:31] <VCoolio> Guest: yes, possibly
[21:32]  * lenswipe is away:
[21:32]  * lenswipe is back (gone 00:00:05)
[21:32] <ph33r> duffydack: aye, anyways I removed it, I could get the same with fade windows with your help :)
[21:32] <Anorion|eee> I guess I'm asking, where is the menu/desktop structure for the netbook remix launcher stored?
[21:32]  * lenswipe is away: chicken shit
[21:32] <flosch0815> jamiejackson: hmm squid would be the right choice, but i decided to use apache instead: better documentation, more module/plugins supported (i.e. for auth-purposes) and easier config (at least for me)
[21:32] <guntbert> !away > lenswipe
[21:32] <assmonger> Hey, how can I configure postfix as an "internet site" directly from the apt-get command, rather than having to go through the interactive menu?
[21:33] <guntbert> assmonger: you cannot, installation and configuration are two different steps
[21:33] <hiatus777> hm, can anyone help me with ssh?
[21:33] <pharmer> hi, this probably sounds like a funny question, but i am having trouble downloading torrents on ubuntu. does anyone have any suggestions?
[21:34] <Flare183> hiatus777: PM me I should be able to help you
[21:34] <Guest> Vcoolio: is there a shortcut for the button?
[21:34] <Guest> Vcoolio: or do i have to use the alt-f2
[21:34] <phix> Morning
[21:34] <Guest> evening
[21:35] <VirusTB> ActionParsnip,  i there a way (from terminal) so see what was the last installed packages??? ( i installed a few from Synaptic, but not sure what installed)
[21:35] <assmonger> OK. how can i configure postfix as an "Internet Site" with the default options without going through the visual interface?
[21:35] <VCoolio> Guest: I don't know, you can make one for the command 'fusion-icon', but better add it to startup applications; it's also in the main menu somewhere
[21:35] <erUSUL> !details | pharmer
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> VirusTB: you can look in /var/cache/apt/archives    the created dates will show you what has been installed
[21:36] <Guest> Vcoolio: every time i use the button, it will revert to default?
[21:37] <tobiasz> still dunno how to get Audacity to work
[21:37] <VCoolio> Guest: just right click and make your choice; if you start it I think it will only recognize what you're currently using
[21:37] <Guest> Vcoolio: uhhhh
[21:37] <losha> VirusTB: see also /var/log/dpkg.log. Everything that ever happened to packages on your system since installation, in chronological order...
[21:37] <Huck> hi all
[21:37] <Guest> Vcoolio: i was using emerald and then i pressed the button and it reverted to original
[21:37] <taeman> When installing applications is space taken from / or from /home? (when installing like sudo apt-get install or synaptic)
[21:37] <erUSUL> taeman: from /
[21:38] <erUSUL> taeman: mostly in /usr/
[21:38] <VCoolio> Guest: ok; well then ok, right? that's what you wanted
[21:38] <erUSUL> !fhs | taeman
[21:38] <Guest> Vcoolio: i see...
[21:38] <Emanon> Gnome-Do keeps shutting down for me is there a way to start it in such a fashion so no user has permission to end the process?
[21:38] <taeman> erUSUL: ok thanks. How much is enough for / you think? I got 200gb, if you was me how much of that would you put in / and in /home ?
[21:38] <Huck> i would format my pc and re-install again ubuntu 9.10 but i cant...i burned 6 dvd and all dont work...installation start but after i put language and install ok , apper the white ubuntu logo, and after 10 sec STDIN ERROR busy box ver.1.31 built in the shell...
[21:38] <Emanon> just make it so it cannot be shut down once started?
[21:39] <taeman> ubottu: thanks
[21:39] <taeman> haha
[21:39] <guntbert> !md5sum | Huck
[21:39] <rob0917> what do bots do?
[21:39] <erUSUL> taeman: 15GB is plenty (all depends on how much software you are going to install)
[21:39] <nacitar> rob0917: laundry
[21:40] <rob0917> hehehe
[21:40] <Huck> !md5sum
[21:40] <Mike_lifeguard> taeman: 10GB for /, the rest for /home
[21:40] <losha> taeman: 10G should be plenty for /,  add swap if you need it, put the rest in /home
[21:40] <KaiForce> is there a real Thunderbird IRC channel?
[21:40] <losha> taeman: split the difference, 12G...
[21:40] <taeman> Mike_lifeguard , erUSUL, losha : thanks
[21:40] <Vbitz> join #firefox
[21:41] <Emanon> Gnome-Do keeps shutting down for me is there a way to start it in such a fashion so no user has permission to end the process?
[21:41] <taeman> losha: what do you mean by that? I got 200gb to play with
[21:41] <rob0917> Can thunderbird 3.0 be installed on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:41] <phix> rob0917: If you compile from source, sure
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> taeman: i use 5Gb for / due to me liking minimal installs :)
[21:41] <KaiForce> rob0917 don't do it if you use Lightning
[21:41] <losha> taeman: I just meant that if you couldn't decide between 10G and 15G, settle on 12G...
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> rob0917: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa   use that ppa
[21:42] <rob0917> thanks but I'll wait till next release
[21:42] <pjfry1> How do I diagnose why
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> rob0917: you can install the daily build from there
[21:42] <taeman> losha: ah I see =) I have like 100gb or something now but I have run out of space in /home =) and my windows disk is like 200gb. trying vbox now so will install 80gb for win7, 220gb for ubuntu (with vbox and xp as guest os)
[21:43] <losha> KaiForce: google says there is...
[21:43] <pjfry1> How do I diagnose why my Gnometris doesn't work?
[21:43] <flosch0815> taeman: with some additional apps i come up with 7 GB on /
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> pjfry1: run it from terminal, websearch for the output
[21:44] <pjfry1> Okay
[21:44] <KaiForce> losha:  ok thanks...  I see on cnet that the nightly build of lightning works with TBird 3.0... I'll give it a shot
[21:44] <losha> yawn
[21:46] <nwillems> Hey, I'm having a problem with connecting a second monitor to my computer. Where can I find detailed error messages, if any exist?
[21:46] <Guest> Vcoolio: what about grkemmele
[21:46] <komputes> Does anyone online atm have in depth knowledge of LUKS encryption and its roll in the boot process?
[21:47] <Guest> Vcoolio: i mean gkrellm
[21:47] <taeman> flosch0815: thanks for the information. I will go with 15gb to be sure since I have alot of space I think. Use external usb for storage anyway.
[21:47] <Mike_lifeguard> nwillems: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, IIRC
[21:47] <komputes> role*
[21:47] <VCoolio> Guest: never heard of it
[21:48] <flosch0815> makes sense. better too much than too less ;-)
[21:48] <Guest> Vcoolio: ok thanks anyway
[21:48] <phix> komputes: #crypto
[21:49] <nwillems> Mike_lifeguard: But there is no timestamps in there :( More preciesely both my main and second monitor goes blank after connecting, and the wait-cursor stops doing anything but I'm able to move it around across the two screens
[21:50] <flosch0815> nwillems: What do you mean with 'connecting'? After logging in with gdm?
[21:51] <nwillems> Physical putting the plug into
[21:51] <Mike_lifeguard> nwillems: If your two monitors are larger than the framebuffer (sounds possible), you can solve this in two ways:
[21:52] <Mike_lifeguard> nwillems: restart X after connecting your monitor (so framebuffer gets resized), or set the framebuffer to be big enough from the get-go (so when you connect the monitor the framebuffer is already large enough)
[21:52] <CaneToad> anyone using Ubuntu with an openwrt router?  I find that sometime after turning on the router, iwlist on the linux desktop cannot see the SSID of the network even though windows machines can, even when the linux machine is right next to the router.  Restarting the router makes it available again, but all the while, windows machines have no problem.
[21:52] <ubuntu> jestu kto┼ø
[21:52] <Mike_lifeguard> nwillems: however, you should be able to find log information in that file, even if it doesn't have timestamps
[21:52] <Mike_lifeguard> nwillems: Of course, you can always try #xorg
[21:53] <ubuntu> mam kilka pyta┼ä o ubuntu
[21:53] <nwillems> Mike_lifeguard: That sound like an idea, joining the xorg.chan. But since I cannot interact with my box after putting the plug in I guess setting the framebuffer is my solution
[21:54] <ubuntu> czy system ubuntu z pendraka mo┼╝e dzia┼éa─ć w 100% prawid┼éowo
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: souds like your wireless adapter in your system needs attention
[21:55] <ubuntu> jest tu jaki┼ø polak
[21:55] <Ash`> o.o'
[21:55] <Ash`> iie
[21:56] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip, but it can see the wireless network from my neighbours just fine.
[21:56] <Ash`> Is there any easy way to get/install drivers for the aetheros wifi cards?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: run: sudo lshw -C network | grep product     and websearch for your adapter
[21:56] <ubuntu> rodacy
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: maybe your adapter needs firmware files
[21:57] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip its Intel... "product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection"
[21:57] <rcmaehl> How do I fix a BlackSoD on linux?
[21:58] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip, the wireless card can see my neighbours networks, so firmware is fine, just not the router right next to it until I restart the router, but windows can see it the whole time (??weird??)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: is it ok under wicd rather than network manager?
[21:59] <Mike_lifeguard> rcmaehl: Depends what you mean. What is the actual problem? error messages? what did you do?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: alt + K + printscreen
[21:59] <rcmaehl> Thx
[21:59] <rcmaehl> fixed
[21:59] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip, when the problem occurs, iwlist scan does not show my network
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: when it drops, run: dmesg | tail    it will give clues
[22:01] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll keep an eye
[22:03] <gehzumteufel> How do I install the PCRE?
[22:03] <gehzumteufel> I can't figure out the package
[22:04] <thevishy> any ways to off the monitor ?
[22:04] <erUSUL> !find pcre
[22:04] <thevishy> laptop i,e
[22:04] <thevishy> like lock it into off state until u click some key
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> gehzumteufel: do you mean: Perl Compatible Regular Expressions?
[22:05] <gehzumteufel> ActionParsnip: Yes
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> gehzumteufel: we can ONLY guess what you can possibly mean
[22:05] <gehzumteufel> Yeah I realised that, sorry
[22:05] <gehzumteufel> erUSUL: Thanks!
[22:06] <erUSUL> gehzumteufel: ubottu did the hard work ;P
[22:06] <lepine2> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with Evolution. I can't send mail. IMAP works, but SMTP never actually gets sent over the wire. I have tested the SMTP server w/ telnet and it works fine.
[22:06] <gehzumteufel> haha yeah but I was unaware of that
[22:06] <lepine2> Ubuntu 9.04, so Evolution 2.26.1
[22:06] <[SilverFox]> Excuse me where can I find a good downloader like flashget in windows that lets me put password in for sites like rapidshare?
[22:06] <thevishy> any ways to off the monitor of a laptop ?
[22:06] <gehzumteufel> Although, I am getting this "checking for PCRE... configure: error: Package requirements (libpcre >= 5.0) were not met:"
[22:06] <Xodiac> I am doing file sharing with a windows pc and is there anyway i can unlock the files that i recieve im using ubuntu latest
[22:07] <erUSUL> gehzumteufel: install the -dev version
[22:07] <gehzumteufel> ahh k
[22:07] <erUSUL> gehzumteufel: libpcre3-dev in this case
[22:07] <gehzumteufel> yeah got that
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> gehzumteufel: ftp://ftp.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programming/pcre/
[22:07] <gehzumteufel> thanks
[22:08] <Xodiac> is there anyway to unlock the files i recieve from a windoze pc
[22:09] <erUSUL> Xodiac: right click go to properties permissions tab
[22:09] <Xodiac> erUSUL: k
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Xodiac: theres an option in smb.conf      create mask to change the chmod on created files recieved
[22:10] <Xodiac> ActionParsnip: how do i do that
[22:10] <vsMS> udev is tricky. Someone here who knows how to add idProduct and idVendor to RUN script in a custom udev rule?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Xodiac: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:10] <gehzumteufel> !find sqlite
[22:11] <gehzumteufel> !find sqlite3
[22:11] <gehzumteufel> hmm
[22:11] <Xodiac> erUSUL: uh i went to the permissions tab and it says im not the owner so i cant change the options
[22:11] <erUSUL> gehzumteufel: in your machine. ┬½ aptitude search libsqlite ┬╗
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Xodiac: seems to be around the line 257 mark
[22:12] <Xodiac> ActionParsnip: thank you what will the option say and what do i change it oo
[22:12] <erUSUL> Xodiac: then you first have to change the owner ... but for a proper solution follow ActionParsnip advice
[22:12] <minderaser> I'm having a very frustrating wireless problem that I'm hoping someone can help me with. At home, my connection is SLOW, but other places it zips along just fine. Other laptops here (Windows) fly, but even when I boot this one to XP it's still a dog. What should I be looking at?
[22:13] <nwillems> rcmaehl: What have you done to get one? :)
[22:13] <Vbitz> will ubuntu 9.10 desktop work ok on virtuabox 3.0.0
[22:13] <nwillems> ups
[22:13] <leeping2007> Hi there, when I try to run a command "bar" on the computer "foo" via "ssh foo bar", I get "command not found".  However, the command is clearly inside my PATH environment variable.  What's wrong?  How do I see my environment when I try to run something remotely?
[22:14] <Xodiac> erUSUL: after i do that option it will automatically unlock the file right
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Xodiac: just uncomment the line, read the lines above and you can set suitable access
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: sure
[22:14] <Xodiac> ActionParsnip: okay thanks
[22:14] <HardDisk> Vbitz if windows vista works in vbox, sure can ubuntu :)
[22:14] <Vbitz> any problems i may run into
[22:14] <Vbitz> like networking
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Xodiac: its all in that file, the gui is nice but ultimately if you want advanced options like that its fairly useless
[22:15] <Vbitz> it is using a PCnet-Fast III Driver running through nat
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: thats all down to the config of the virtualbox
[22:16] <Xodiac> ActionParsnip: after i make changes to the samba conf then it will unlock the files right
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: you can bridge the virtual NIC to make it appear on the LAN, you can keep it to itself on its own virtual LAN
[22:16] <Vbitz> will ubuntu mind if i change that after it is setup
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Xodiac: they will have different access so yes, you will need to run: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart    to get the file reread
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: not at all, it uses DHCP by default and will get what its given
[22:17] <Xodiac> ActionParsnip: okay thanks man
[22:17] <Vbitz> how does it detect what type of computer i am using
[22:18] <porridj> hey everyone, curious, is there some kind of media player that finds and removes dupicates?
[22:18] <Vbitz> even through a hypervisor it knows i am using a laptop
[22:18] <simplexi1> Vbitz: yes its work, i run buntu in vbox now, and if you change your guest network card after buntu install it will be eth1, assuming that you booted once into system with old "card"
[22:18] <ubuntu> This computer I'm on the person forgot there password - I'm booted to a Ubuntu boot cd - Is there any way to reset the password using a Livecd ? ?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: not sure, i'd ask in #vbox
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Vbitz: why would it matter?
[22:19] <simplexi1> Vbitz: you can rename "new" card to eth0 in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: you can boot to recovery root console and reset the password there
[22:19] <coz_> ubuntu,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133102
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: the syntax is: passwd username_to_reset
[22:20] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: Ah - Would that be from a regular boot to desktop and boot under options Instead of using a Live CD ? ?
[22:21] <Vbitz> is the big iron kernal still suported in 9.10
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: correct
[22:21] <Vbitz> just wondering
[22:21] <TripleDubs> Hello all. Is there anyone here that would be willing to help me troubleshoot sudoers file? I can't seem to figure out why it won't work.
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> TripleDubs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[22:22] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: Ok Coll - Will give it shot ! Thanks so much - I read what you said about "syntax" Thanks.....
[22:22] <gehzumteufel> How can I check wat version of sqlite3 is installed?
[22:23] <Vbitz> look in synaptic
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> gehzumteufel: dpkg -l | grep lite
[22:23] <coz_> gehzumteufel,   try   sqlite3 --version in terminal  that might << work
[22:23] <erUSUL> gehzumteufel: sqlite -version
[22:24] <erUSUL> !version > gehzumteufel
[22:24] <elMariachi> hi guys
[22:24] <gehzumteufel> I have Kubuntu 9.190
[22:24] <gehzumteufel> 9.10*
[22:25] <elMariachi> im trying to install 9.10 on a raid1, but installation fails at 94% saying grub couldn't be installed
[22:25] <elMariachi> i cant find help on google..
[22:25] <jenda> Is there a way to regulate fan speed? I work at night in the room where another person sleeps, and I'd like to make my fan work at a constant speed rather than keep whirring and toning down - preferably with an indication of the current temperature?
[22:26] <Lxndr> My Dell laptop (with ubuntu installed) has decided to stop detecting my wireless network, as of last night. Can anyone help me make it talk to the wireless network again? (My roommate's windows computer detects it effortlessly)
[22:26] <Vbitz> is there a piece of softwere that allows me to defer a running prosess to another computer over the new work with memory intact
[22:27] <dhendrix> jenda:  there might be a convenient sensor monitor, but for starters you can try setting it manually if the pwm is exposed thru sysfs.
[22:27] <dhendrix> jenda:  look in /sys for a PWM setting: find /sys -iname '*pwm*'
[22:27] <nwillems> Lxndr: is there a hardware switch you accidentially turned off?
[22:28] <minderaser> Lxndr: I've done this before, and felt like a dolt: some laptops have an external switch that can be bumped off
[22:28] <Lxndr> nwillems: As far as I can tell, no hardware switches have been moved. That's the first thing I checked (that's happened to me before).
[22:29] <Lxndr> I did set it up at a friend's house for their network. When I got home, it wouldn't talk to mine anymore.
[22:29] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: Is that a "Underscore" between "username to reset" or just a space ? ?
[22:29] <kantlivelong> is it possible to setup a vnc server? i want to use it as my X session..
[22:29] <cptblood> for some reason, i cannot ssh to my newly installed ubuntu jaunty pc, i have installed openssh-server, but putty just says "Network error: Software caused connection abort" ... any ideas?
[22:29] <Vbitz> just use apt-cache search vnc
[22:30] <nwillems> Lxndr: is it still visible on your laptop?
[22:30] <Lxndr> nwillems: it is not.
[22:30] <nwillems> Is it showing up when you are doing ifconfig?
[22:31] <seon> hello
[22:31] <kantlivelong> anyone?
[22:31] <cptblood> kantlivelong: Vbitz replied to you
[22:31] <seon> how can i have the codec infos from command line with ubuntu?
[22:31] <kantlivelong> Vbitz: i was hoping for a headless multiuser vnc server
[22:31] <Bigrobc> can somebody help uninstall wine
[22:32] <soreau> Bigrobc: What do you need to know?
[22:32] <Vbitz> try ssh with x
[22:32] <Vbitz> or remote logon
[22:32] <cptblood> Bigrobc: sudo apt-get remove wine
[22:32] <Lxndr> nwillems: I'm checking now. The computer's a little recalcintrant sometimes (I'm rebooting it now)
[22:32] <cptblood> ?
[22:32] <kantlivelong> Vbitz: i know its doable in other distros.. kinda like X hosting
[22:32] <Bigrobc> well i used the package manager to remove it
[22:32] <mostapha> Anyone know an easy guide to explain how to edit files from vi?
[22:32] <Vbitz> sort of
[22:32] <Bigrobc> but its still in my applications menu
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> mostapha: nano is a bit easier to use
[22:33] <soreau> ! who | Bigrobc
[22:33] <seon> no soft to have video informations?
[22:33] <Bigrobc> i typed that cptblood and it says there's no such package found
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Bigrobc: look in ~/.config/menus
[22:34] <cptblood> then it's removed?
[22:34] <soreau> Bigrobc: You should be able use alacarte to remove the entry (Sys>Prefs>Main Menu) or check if the entry is still in /usr/share/applications
[22:34] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: could u help me with my ssh problem?
[22:34] <opticon> i have shared printer on windows how can i make it work on ubuntu
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Bigrobc: the extra menu items you see are stored there
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: sup
[22:34] <Lxndr> nwillems: I have no idea what I did, or what you did, but this reboot (compared to all previous ones I've been doing since last night) suddenly worked. It's now detecting.
[22:34] <opticon> drivers that are included do not seem to work
[22:34] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: for some reason, i cannot ssh to my newly installed ubuntu jaunty pc, i have installed openssh-server, but putty just says "Network error: Software caused connection abort" ... any ideas?
[22:34] <opticon> is hp deskjet f340
[22:34] <Alan502> Does ububntu loose any stability installing dozens of apps like windows?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: can you ping the IP?
[22:34] <trism> mostapha: vimtutor is a good place to start
[22:34] <Lxndr> nwillems: so, thanks for being magic, and for trying to help!
[22:34] <mostapha> ActionParsnip: Ya, I've used nano before but lots of people told me if I'm going to develop on Linux emacs and vi would be the best choices because of the features the have, and I kinda liked vi than emacs. But the problem is that the guids I found just explain it's commands and shortcuts none of them explained how to create and save new files in action.
[22:34] <nwillems> Lxndr: well thats always great to have theese magic moments :)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> opticon: www.hplip.com
[22:35] <rodrigo_> hi, I need to change my network to the new IPv6 protocol, in the beginning have to do a parallel network with ipv4, works well?
[22:35] <mostapha> trism: I'll check it out, thanks.
[22:35] <cptblood> yep ActionParsnip
[22:35] <jenda> dhendrix: no hits :(
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: can you telnet to the socket?
[22:35] <dhendrix> jenda:  awww. Well, lm-sensors is probably your best bet then.
[22:35] <Bigrobc> soreau: thank you
[22:36] <MatBoy> how do I display my encryption key ?
[22:36] <nwillems> rodrigo_: shouldn't be a problem far as I know :) And since google can respond with both IPv4 and 6 addresses i guess the internet is running in parallel
[22:36] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: what telnet port does it run on?
[22:36] <jenda> dhendrix: thanks, I will try that.
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: same as always, 22 by default
[22:36] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: window just shuts down (putty) when i try to
[22:36] <programma42> ciao
[22:36] <brummbaer> actionparsnip: the answer to any numeric question is ALWAYS 8675309
[22:37] <programma42> !list
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> brummbaer: not always
[22:37] <MatBoy> mhh it is possible to print your encryption key
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: we arent using putty right now, try telnet to the socket
[22:37] <dhendrix> jenda:  You will probably need lm-sensors to expose the low-level sensor stuff in /sys. After that, you ought to be able to manipulate the sensors using sysfs or thru a front-end such as ksensors or xsensors.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: if it connects we know putty is bad
[22:38] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: putty has a telnet connection type tho
[22:38] <LizardK|ng> who wanted the fan application?  if it's a dell, try i8kutils
[22:38] <cptblood> telnet isnt included in windows either? @ ActionParsnip
[22:38] <cptblood> (win7)
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: try: start -> run    telnet servername 22
[22:38] <brummbaer> cptblood: if it's like vista you'll have to turn it on under add/remove windows components
[22:38] <cptblood> brummbaer: ok
[22:39] <nwillems> cptblood: Win7 doesn't include telnet client and server as default, you have to manually add them
[22:39] <chris231989_> windows "features" in win7
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> nwillems: wow, telnet is REALLY handy
[22:39] <MatBoy> damn what is the command to show your encryption key ?
[22:39] <cptblood> nwillems: where are they added?
[22:39] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: but i cant even open an ftp connection locally on my machine either
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: ae there any known issues with putty and win7?
[22:40] <cptblood> so i figure there's something bogus stuff going on
[22:40] <cptblood> all my other boxes work
[22:40] <cptblood> ActionParsnip, so i dont think so
[22:40] <nwillems> Yeah I know, but it is in the "installation-cache" from win7, just Control Panel -> Programs and features -> Windows Components(ish)
[22:40] <jonzbcc> might someone suggest an alternative gnome-do?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: are you using hostname or IP?
[22:40] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: ip
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: are any of the other systems win7 based
[22:40] <MatBoy> lol, no-one has secured his data ?
[22:40] <cptblood> no, all debian
[22:41] <cptblood> but i've had ubuntu before, and it worked @ ActionParsnip
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: sounds like a win7 issue then. I'd ask in ##windows
[22:41] <jonzbcc> MatBoy: what was your question?
[22:41] <cptblood> no, it isnt, it's just a problem with this single install of ubuntu 9.04 @ ActionParsnip
[22:41] <MatBoy> jonzbcc: I need the command to show my encryption key :)
[22:41] <clownmatto> ciao
[22:41] <MatBoy> there is a command for it
[22:41] <jenda> dhendrix: well, I was hoping a foolproof tool existed - Since I don't want to risk messing anything up, I'll rather leave it alone :) Thanks for the help, though.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: if all the debian systems can connect ok and win7 cant then its a putty issue or win7 being garbage
[22:41] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: i made a livedvd from a diff. install, it might also have this problem, but i never reflected much over it
[22:42] <MatBoy> jonzbcc: it┼ø the same as what shows it after the first login
[22:42] <jonzbcc> MatBoy: you need a command to *show* it? is there a specific one you're tlaking about? maybe you're talking about your rsa private key for ssh?
[22:42] <cptblood> ActionParsnip: no no, i mean, my other systems i try to connect to from win7 are debian based
[22:42] <MatBoy> jonzbcc: no encrypted home partition
[22:42] <rodrigo_> nwillems:I took a course here in Brazil about ipv6 and now I'm taking the courage to implement
[22:43] <cptblood> should i try removing openssh-server on this troublesome machine, and re-install it? but it's wierd that i cant open an ftp connection locally to it either
[22:43] <jonzbcc> MatBoy: ooh, encryption of my home directory is something I've never done before. sorry :(
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: oh i see
[22:43] <MatBoy> jonzbcc: ok
[22:43] <nwillems> rodrigo_: good luck. It is going the right way with the internet atm
[22:43] <jonzbcc> MatBoy: if your'e asking for a way of revealing your password (because you forgot it?), I don't think that'll be posible
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: try running: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[22:43] <cptblood> k
[22:44] <cartwright118> Hello guys, could someone please help me - I'm looking for a good website where i can read and learn about Ubuntu? And basic terminal commands? (Windows user and linux noob) xD Cheers!
[22:44] <MatBoy> jonzbcc: I know my password, but you can sudo your encryption key
[22:44] <jonzbcc> cartwright118: ubuntu.com
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: pulls it all out as well as config and reinstalls
[22:45] <spiffman> hi all, simple question that google hasn't been able to help me with: can you create a bootable usb from ANY usb flash drive? I tried several ways but no luck with my current one
[22:45] <jonzbcc> MatBoy: what do you mean "sudo" your encryption key? sudo, if you mean as an act, just means to change your priveleges momentarily, not to take some kind of action on a key
[22:45] <cartwright118> Thank you jonzbcc - are their any other good ones? As i've already been looking on there before I came here :)
[22:46] <Redache> spiffman: It depends on the Flash drive, some just refuse to work with it, what Flash drive have you got?
[22:46] <rodrigo_> nmillems:you, and the use of ipv6 should be encouraged in the world... hehehhe
[22:46] <jonzbcc> cartwright118: you can also try help.ubuntu.com (awesome site) ... and um, hold on
[22:46] <jmyers> ok, any balding men out there feel sorry for another balding man who's pulling what LITTLE hair he has left out over his PRINTING ISSUES?! : /
[22:46] <Redache> jmyers: What's the problem?
[22:46] <krzysztof> rodacy jestescie
[22:46] <jmyers> My HP PSC 1401 All in One is the fscking problem.
[22:46] <cptblood> yay, it works, thx ActionParsnip :)
[22:46] <spiffman> Redache: its a surewest 1 GB flash drive
[22:47] <jonzbcc> cartwright118: oh, the wiki is awesome too, here's an example "Ubuntu Classroom" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[22:47] <MatBoy> jonzbcc: no it's displayed after the first login when you set it
[22:47] <jonzbcc> cartwright118: you can learn a ton on that wiki
[22:47] <Redache> spiffman: It's more than likely something wrong with the drive, some just refuse to work
[22:47] <jmyers> It will print the test page from the console of the printer, but I can't get it to do anything but print blank pages from all different apps in Gnome
[22:47] <ubuntu> halo
[22:47] <cartwright118> Thank you jonzbcc! Appreciate it
[22:47] <jonzbcc> MatBoy: hm, sorry, I wish I knew :(
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> cptblood: np man
[22:47] <pyro2927> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and I get "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB" and so on during boot
[22:47] <xover> ive lost the user list, how do i get it back in IRC
[22:47] <spiffman> Redache: ah ok thanks. I'll see if i can get another
[22:48] <jmyers> I have hplip installed.
[22:48] <jmyers> It detects the printer, installs it, etc.
[22:48] <singasong> ActionParsnip: Hey - Just wanted to say thanks again for help with the password reset - I was logged in before on a Live CD as User: ubuntu - Appreciate it!
[22:48] <spiffman> Redache: there are no specifications i should look for? most should work if they are not corrupted?
[22:48] <cartwright118> spiffman: I'm not expert on linux, but I've used unetbootin for creating a bootable USB and it was very easy to do. One button...
[22:49] <spiffman> cartwright118: yup thats exactly what I used.. no luck tho
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> singasong: np bro
[22:49] <Redache> spiffman: I'd try Unetbootin as cartwright118 suggested, but if that didn't work, then it's more than likley something to do with that certain brand of Flash Drive
[22:49]  * AIX_boy wiggling
[22:49] <Redache> I can't remember why it happens with some and not others, I think age plays a big factor in it
[22:50] <cartwright118> spiffman: I have used two different USB drives and didn't have a problem, possibly could be just the USB drive you are using, try it with a friends?
[22:50] <singasong> ActionParsnip: The user is all jazzed - She hasn't been able to boot in for over a month - :o)
[22:50] <spiffman> cool, thanks Redache and cartwright118, i'm off to find another
[22:50] <jonzbcc> anyone know of a replacement for gnome-do or docky?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> singasong: yowser
[22:50] <CShadowRun> jonzbcc: cairo-dock has scooby-do built in, which is similar
[22:51] <jmyers> I believe what I need is a CUPS pimp
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> jonzbcc: simdock
[22:51] <jonzbcc> CShadowRun: thanks :)
[22:51] <CShadowRun> :)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> jonzbcc: doesnt require compoziting either so is awesome
[22:51] <jonzbcc> ActionParsnip: ahh, i've never heard of that one, alright.
[22:52] <Redache> jmyers: Does it appear when you attempt to print something?