[13:19] <dabaR> dockimble: then try again
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: the multiboot will be handled automagically
[13:19] <Parabola> GSF1200S the tool should do it on its own
[13:19] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: so its startup by you or a community
[13:19] <michaelxq> actionParsnip, and where can i find them? google it?
[13:19] <glaucous> URGENT: while running virtualbox (I need windows for work), after a while my whole computer will lock up.  then it will sort of come back but I'll have no more title bars, no more network, and system monitor shows Load at 100%. only fix so far is to reboot.  I've been using lucid since alpha3 and this just happened in the past couple days. please help!
[13:19] <dabaR> wise_crypt: what client do you use
[13:19] <dabaR> ?
[13:19] <bp0> Dr_Willis, no that didnt work
[13:19] <bp0> when it gets mounted, it goes back to being owned by root
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: or whatever search engine you like relly, but yes
[13:19] <dabaR> wise_crypt: you might be able to ignore ubottu temporarily
[13:19] <Parabola> glaucous: Not being a smartass, thats windows
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  then you did somthing wrong. I do such a thing all the time
[13:20] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: it's a startup by a close friend of mine. I personally don't have so much experience to be able to start on my own. But I joined him recently :)
[13:20] <Parabola> glaucous its the way the explorer reacts to 100% load
[13:20] <afre12> Hi
[13:20] <afre12> When I create a folder and press F2, there are times that the action of renaming is not responding ... Similar to open drives with double click, any help?
[13:20] <michaelxq> actionParsnip, thank you again!!
[13:20] <rabidweezle> glaucous, that's more of a virtualbox/windows question than ubuntu question
[13:20] <Parabola> glaucous: generally speaking, if you can task kill explorer then the 100% process, itll fix it
[13:20] <wise_crypt> dabaR: hmm
[13:20] <dilara_11> Gparted can not see my usb mp3 player (sony nwz-b135). i can go inside it with nautilus . (also windows has no problem with it) any ideas ?
[13:20] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: ok so all of you are engineers
[13:20] <glaucous> Parabola, the windows guest hasn't changed
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: i really wouldn't use a new release for work dude
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  'sudo mount /dev/THEDEVICENAME /media/STUFF'  'sudo chown YOURUSERNAME:YOURUSERNAME /media/STUFF'
[13:20] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: yes
[13:21] <Tecna> Parabola: Do you know what virtualbox is?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  then check the owner with 'ls -l /media' (check befor and after the chown command)
[13:21] <Parabola> Tecna yes of course
[13:21] <leagris> geekphreak, same bugs after remove --purge and reinstall
[13:21] <Parabola> tecna however i misread him
[13:21] <Tecna> glaucous: try #vbox
[13:21] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip; Parabola: He claims in the past that it just boots straight to Windows 7 on /dev/sdc2 without showing Grub (he has tried to install 10.04). In the bootscript printout I can see attached, it says that Grub2 is installed to the MBR of /dev/sda, which is a drive he is using for storage
[13:21] <Parabola> Tecna i thought he was saying windows was the host
[13:21] <VeasMKII> How do i turn on pcspkr beep in 10.04?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: if you press ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace    do the bars come back
[13:21] <Whisky> l
[13:21] <glaucous> rabidweezle, it makes my host unusable
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> VeasMKII:  unblacklist the module for starters.
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> !blacklist
[13:21] <michaelxq> where can i find .iso for windows xp to run it through virtualbox?
[13:21] <glaucous> ActionParsnip, Alt+F2 doesn't work
[13:22] <jrib> michaelxq: most computer stores sell windows xp
[13:22] <rabidweezle> glaucous, that's not ubuntu's fault, that would be a bug in virtualbox
[13:22] <leagris> geekphreak, I really should have tested lucid while in alpha and reported bugs early ;)
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> michaelxq:  make one from one of your legally bought windows cd's
[13:22] <afre12> Hello! Can someone help me?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: you may need to extend the timeout in /etc/default/grub
[13:22] <dhruvasagar> afre12: just ask
[13:22] <afre12> When I create a folder and press F2, there are times that the action of renaming is not responding ... Similar to open drives with double click, any help?
[13:22] <dabaR> afre12: intermittent things are super hard to troubleshoot. Try to notice a pattern in when it happens whether you are doing something else/
[13:22] <glaucous> rabidweezle, so then nothing is ever ubuntu's fault then
[13:22] <VeasMKII> yeah, i've done that :) then unmuted alsamixer
[13:22] <dabaR> !patience | afre12
[13:22] <dockimble> did what you suggested, but the same problem
[13:22] <bp0> Dr_Willis, yes i had created the directory so i could make a fstab line earler
[13:22] <bp0> so when i mounted it with the menu it made a different mount point
[13:22] <michaelxq> Dr_WIllis,what about windows vista and se7en?
[13:22] <Yoavk> How can I change the login screen theme in Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:22] <isurit> hi
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  see what 'ls -l /media' says'
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: then log off and log on to command line level and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> michaelxq:  no idea.
[13:22] <isurit> /clear
[13:22] <dabaR> dockimble: show me a new paste. and also the output of ls /usr/share/mscore-0.9/templates/
[13:22] <rabidweezle> glaucous, not when it's running under a virtual machine
[13:22] <geekphreak> leagris: works ok here :0
[13:23] <Tecna> I think maybe glaucous's problem might be solved by nicing something.  not sure which, though.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Yoavk: epidermis can do it
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  also check your fstab entry and 'mount' output
[13:23] <quesada_> geany alternatives? I need split screen
[13:23] <bp0> so i deleted the one i made and chowned it after the menu remade it, and it seems to be working
[13:23] <glaucous> rabidweezle, windows is in the vbox, not ubuntu
[13:23] <michaelxq> Dr_Willis, thanks again for the help
[13:23] <geekphreak> leagris: make sure u send the bug
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  try xfte  - actually geany i thought had a spliut screan feature
[13:23] <glaucous> ActionParsnip, I'll try that, thanks
[13:23] <rabidweezle> glaucous, ooooh man, I was backwords, excuse me there
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  check the package manager for geany plugins
[13:23] <Arthur___> question when i log out, a wigit pops up and says unknown is not responding then choices.. logout any way .. ect. my question is how do i figure out what unkown is?
[13:24] <glaucous> rabidweezle, no worries
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  theres a geany plugin for that.
[13:24] <quesada_> Dr_Willis: there's a plugin, but it sucks
[13:24] <rabidweezle> glaucous, I would crank down the amount of memory for the vbox
[13:24] <Tecna> glaucous: please join the channel #vbox for relevant help
[13:24] <jrib> atlant: pastebin the entire output from the command you ran and the command you ran
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  no idea. I never tried it.
[13:24] <dockimble> http://paste.ubuntu.com/426404/
[13:24] <quesada_> The FAQ says that geany will not support split screen natively. the current split screen plugin is very far from the functionality I need
[13:24] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: so how can we can know more about internship programme
[13:24] <rabidweezle> glaucous, how much memory free after you give to vbox?
[13:24] <dockimble> http://paste.ubuntu.com/426405/
[13:24] <leagris> geekphreak, do you have a mailroute extension in thunderbird? I wonder if this extension is packaged un the /usr/lib
[13:24] <glaucous> rabidweezle, 1Gi
[13:25] <geekphreak> leagris: nope sir
[13:25] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip: alright, Ill try to have him edit that. Is it possible to specify which /dev/sdX to have Grub install to on the LiveCD (Arch allows this)?
[13:25] <Dav|d> hello
[13:25] <datroubler> Hello! I have a problem with installing the closes source ati driver is this a known bug in 10,4?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> !info xfte
[13:25] <glaucous> rabidweezle, and I've been working like this without problems for months.  it's a recent change (past few days)
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Hmm
[13:25] <rabidweezle> glaucous, did you get it from the official repo? if so, please post a bug for the package on bugzilla
[13:25] <geekphreak> leagris: let m einstall it and see  give me a minute
[13:25] <dodddummy> ActionParsnip, doh! i have a pci wireless card.  but i forgot a plugged in a usb dongle card too.  works fine when there is only one installed.  guess there is some sort of conflict.  that could probably be sorted out but i don't need them both anyway.
[13:25] <balicocat> help
[13:25] <isurit> asd
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: in the desktop install, no but in the alternate cd you can
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> !info efte
[13:26] <fr0nk> hi, i just reinstalled ubuntu and had the VMs on a separate volume. How can I import the VMs? I found no "import" button so I decided to create a new vm and give the VM an existing disk. When I try to boot the VM it says no disk found
[13:26] <glaucous> rabidweezle, it is from main/uni/multi, yes; not a ppa
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> dodddummy: if it is connecting to the same subnet you will get problems
[13:26] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip, Thank you very much for the help :)
[13:26] <dabaR> dockimble: well, your computer is either lying, or you did things in the wrong order. Somehow apt thinks the file you moved is still in the same place
[13:26] <fr0nk> the disk has one snapshot but I changed the snapshot location in the preferences of the VM - without success
[13:26] <isurit> hello
[13:26] <quesada_> Dr_Willis: Last Change: 2002-03-26 for xfte text editor...
[13:26] <Arthur___> question when i log out, a widget pops up and says unknown is not responding then choices.. logout any way .. ect. my question is how do i figure out what unkown is?
[13:26] <sergiu14_> I want to step into libc with gdb. I have libc6, libc6-dev and libc6-dbg installed and still can't step inside it. any ideas?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  efte
[13:26] <ggeib750> hi - How to found out that this patch is integrtaed in an Ubuntu version ----> http://radu.cotescu.com/2009/11/05/flipped-images-ubuntu-webcam/
[13:26] <rabidweezle> glaucous, I would post on bugzilla, then post in the forums
[13:26] <Parabola> !fakeraid
[13:27] <PolitikerALT> Hello everyone, I got the following problem: on an ubuntu-server with startet xinit + fvwm there is no sound; but there is sound if I boot a ubuntu-desktop-livecd
[13:27] <glaucous> rabidweezle, okay
[13:27] <PolitikerALT> how can I find out what is missing?
[13:27] <Dav|d> I want to set up a folding@home server farm, but I'm too obtuse to read up on it
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  i do find xfte handy in many cases.. saw its been reborn as efte not tried that one as much
[13:27] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: can i join u on gmail/gtalk
[13:27] <olivr> how you do the button the right way up... its buging me
[13:27] <Dav|d> would somewhere here walk me through it step-by-step?
[13:27] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: sure
[13:27] <rabidweezle> glaucous, and if all else fails #vbox
[13:27] <dockimble> it wont let me move it again
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Dav|d:  thats a tad lazy - not obtuse. :)
[13:27] <dockimble> as it doesn't exist now
[13:27] <Yoavk> Can anybody suggest a good Ubuntu IRC Client?
[13:27] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: mail id and more info about u??
[13:27] <Dav|d> lol I was being sarcastic
[13:27] <dabaR> dockimble: it's not there. try the apt thing again
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Yoavk:  depends on your needs. I use 'weechat'
[13:27] <glaucous> rabidweezle, going to try ActionParsnip's suggestion first, then I'll do that
[13:27] <Parabola> Yoavk x-chat
[13:27] <bp0> Dr_Willis, will i have to do this every time?
[13:27] <rabidweezle> Yoavk, xchat
[13:27] <dockimble> -f?
[13:27] <Dav|d> glad someone didn't take the bait
[13:28] <isurit> X-chat
[13:28] <glaucous> rabidweezle, ActionParsnip, thanks for your help
[13:28] <dabaR> dockimble: ya, it should at least complain about a different thing.
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  filesystem permissions/ownership.. part of the filesystem.. if  a file is owned by you.. it stays owned by you...
[13:28] <rabidweezle> glaucous, np
[13:28] <leagris> geekphreak, now sudo updatedb && locate thunderbird | less ; #then investigate all remains
[13:28] <jessejazza> IRC = Xchat-gnome. has useful features that Xchat doesn't have. Best of the lot in my opinion
[13:28] <dockimble> same damn thing
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> bp0: this CAN cause issues ifyou move a usb/flash drive to other machines
[13:28] <acicula> PolitikerALT, muted sound, missing pulseaudio,one program holding the sound device?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: i'd just backup your virtualbox config etc and reinstall if worst comes to worse
[13:28] <sergiu14_> hello, I want to step into libc with gdb. I have libc6, libc6-dev and libc6-dbg installed and still can't step inside it. any ideas?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Most people hate xchat-gnome and perfer xchat over it.
[13:29] <dabaR> dockimble: _de?
[13:29] <Dav|d> jessejazza, really? I've found xchat-gnome to be more simplistic
[13:29] <dockimble> ???
[13:29] <Arthur___> question, when i log out, a widget pops up and says "unknown" is not responding then choices.. logout any way .. ect. my question is how do i figure out what unkown is?
[13:29] <glaucous> ActionParsnip, I'm just surprised it's able to completely hose my system
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: back on pidgin here, suits the UNR nicely :)
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> I use weechat on my netbookx
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: its software, so anyting can
[13:29] <dabaR> dockimble: the error is: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/mscore-0.9/templates/instruments_de.xml', which is also in package mscore-common 0:0.9.4+dfsg-1
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> well i ssh from the netbook to the main box.. and use screen/weechat :)
[13:29] <dockimble> right
[13:29] <dockimble> how do i just remove them all?
[13:29] <rabidweezle> glaucous, with something as high resources as a virtual machine though, the smallest memory leak could be a disaster
[13:29] <dabaR> dockimble: so we moved the file, is it still complaining about the same file?
[13:29] <dockimble> yes
[13:29] <user01> how large should /var and /var/log be?
[13:30] <quesada_> Dr_Willis: what's so good in efte? Looks like I need to compile from source...
[13:30] <Parabola> user01 no static size
[13:30] <glaucous> ActionParsnip, I know, but I've become accustomed to more stability with linux :)
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  its in the repos here.
[13:30] <Parabola> user01 different on every machine
[13:30] <geekphreak> leagris: thats needed?
[13:30] <ran_> hi all , does any body know how to change screen resolution greater then 800x600
[13:30] <ran_> ?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> quesada_:  its the latest incarnation of fte.
[13:30]  * Dav|d stands aback
[13:30] <dabaR> dockimble: well, you would probably do sudo aptitude remove mscore-common
[13:30] <Dav|d> omg!
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ran_: install and configure video drivers
[13:30] <Dav|d> you're all...all...nerds!!!
[13:30] <user01> Parabola, a home desktop/web server?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Dav|d:  and you say that like its a bad thing?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Dav|d
[13:30] <Parabola> user01 yeah, log size would depend on how much / whats going on on the PC
[13:30] <wulfy> i see we have a troll
[13:30] <rabidweezle> ran_, what video card?
[13:30] <quesada_> Dr_Willis: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "efte"
[13:30] <sergiu14_> hello, I want to step into libc with gdb. I have libc6, libc6-dev and libc6-dbg installed and still can't step inside it. any ideas?
[13:30] <Parabola> user01 and what you have installed..ect
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !info efte
[13:31] <sergiu14_> hello, I want to step into libc with gdb. I have libc6, libc6-dev and libc6-dbg installed and still can't step inside it. any ideas?
[13:31] <dockimble> won't let me
[13:31] <minimec> ran_: No we are all runnung 800x600 ;) sorry . We need more info . What card, and so on...
[13:31] <dabaR> dockimble: same error?
[13:31] <isurit> wulfy what the troll?
[13:31] <glaucous> rabidweezle, yep.  hopefully it's just a problem with whatever happened when lucid went stable
[13:31] <Dav|d> lol just trying to put myself into the shoes of someone who's never used irc or linux before
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: nerds are the folks who make you myspace / facebook / twitter sites work as well as code the software for your ipod so show respect
[13:31] <jrib> sergiu14_: please don't repeat so often, you might want to see if there is a gdb channel
[13:31] <dockimble> 1 min
[13:31] <dabaR> Dav|d: no offense, but please try to not chat here, the screen is scrolling super fast as it is.
[13:31] <ran_> looking at sys info: "prosavage8"
[13:31] <sergiu14_> its not a gdb issue
[13:31] <sergiu14_> its a ubuntu issue
[13:31] <Dav|d> bah.
[13:31] <glaucous> rabidweezle, ActionParsnip, anyway, I'm off to try your suggestions.  thanks again for the ideas.  cheers
[13:31] <jessejazza> Dav|d - perhaps you're right but it does copy/paste for quoting and one or two things Xchat and others don't do. All about choice as they say. But i prefer gnome to kde so tend to stick with gnome apps
[13:32] <jrib> sergiu14_: then what's the ubuntu issue?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ran_: what does: lspci | grep 0i vga    sya?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ran: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:32] <dockimble> http://paste.ubuntu.com/426408/
[13:32] <geekphreak> leagris:  i see what ya mean
[13:32] <leagris> geekphreak, actually after apt-get remove --purge thunderbird there are still extensions un /usr/lib/thunderbird
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ran_: websearch for the output to find guides
[13:32] <sergiu14_> I cant step inside libc
[13:32] <dodddummy> i have a 40gb hd in one machine, when it booted it checked the drive.  it went from 1-70% in abount 1 minute.  it took 20 minutes to check the rest of the drive.  it's done this twice now.  is 20 minutes a reasonable time for a 2.66 ghz p4 to scan a disk?  seems long to me
[13:32] <ran_> how can i know which type of card is installed?
[13:32] <ubuntu> why isnt there xchat in ubuntu? why do we have xchat-gnome?
[13:32] <Arthur___> question, when i log out, a widget pops up and says "unknown" is not responding then choices.. logout any way .. ect. my question is how do i figure out what unkown is?
[13:32] <Pirate_Hunter> does anyone know where is the file that outputs the information about the system once a user logins in on lucid server and can it be changed?
[13:32] <sergiu14_> with gdb.. , because gdb needs libc sources
[13:32] <minimec> ran_: Basically the xserver should ecognize your card and load the best configuration for it. For newer ATi and Nvidia cards there are close source drivers. Check <System>administration<hardware driver
[13:33] <sergiu14_> and I have all the packages installed, and still the sources are missing
[13:33] <Dav|d> jessejazza, they've certainly got the integration with the newest version of ubuntu down, but I'm not sure how much of that is the gnome-devs or ubuntu
[13:33] <Dav|d> either way
[13:33] <acicula> sergiu14_, you mean step through the code or the asm
[13:33] <jrib> sergiu14_: yeah, that's clearly an ubuntu issue...  It may be, but it's not clear that it is.  Anyway, pastebin what you are doing exactly, and as I said, folks that are more familiar with gdb can probably help you too.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: nerds make all the technonogy you use from your sky box to your PC work and run so bad mouthing nerds aint smart
[13:33] <Dav|d> 10.04 looks nice
[13:33] <dabaR> dockimble: does it let you sudo aptitude remove musescore?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ran_: the command I gave will tell you
[13:33] <sergiu14_> in fedora you do a debuginfo_install libc.. and all works
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  install what you want..
[13:33] <geekphreak> leagris:  i tried to uninstall normal way , worked here
[13:33] <minimec> ran_: open a console ande type lspci | grep VGA
[13:33] <Arthur___> !unkown
[13:33] <Dav|d> ActionParsnip, I was being sarcastic with my original comment
[13:33] <sergiu14_> through the C code, not asm
[13:33] <geekphreak> leagris:  can you disable it, if not uninstall?
[13:33] <acicula> sergiu14_, you need to install the gdb version
[13:33] <leagris> geekphreak, probably remains of an old install of thunderbird3 when in karmic
[13:33] <isurit> Dav|d what the special thing? 10.04  or add new ?
[13:34] <sergiu14_> I have gdb 7.1 on ubuntu
[13:34] <olivr> can someone explain this http://i.imgur.com/LSmm3.png
[13:34] <ran_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[13:34] <user01> Parabola, so Im thinking of 250MB for /boot . . .  /usr, 15GB, /var 3 GB /var/log  2 GB / 10 GB rest in home
[13:34] <leagris> geekphreak, the offending extension probably was packaged and not properly uninstalled
[13:34] <jadakren> Dav|d, sarcasim doesn't exist on the internet.
[13:34] <geekphreak> pprob.
[13:34] <penguin42> olivr: Yeh, the preview thing hasn't caught up
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !controls | olivr
[13:34] <leagris> geekphreak, system wide extension can not be removed disabled properly
[13:34] <Dav|d> isurit, huh?
[13:34] <Parabola> olivr: looks like gnome changed things up
[13:34] <minimec> ran_: Hmmm... S3.. that is definitly not my playground...
[13:35] <olivr> oww right
[13:35] <Parabola> olivr moved stuff to other side, and didnt redo screenshots :)
[13:35] <penguin42> olivr: Bug 532754 I think
[13:35] <acicula> sergimateo, which i cant seem to find in the repo. anyway to step through the C code you need the gdb extentions compiled into a prog
[13:35] <geekphreak> leagris: rm always there ;)
[13:35] <dockimble> i think it worked
[13:35] <dockimble> now if i can just complete this bloody upgrade
[13:35] <glaucous> ActionParsnip, I logged out and tried switching to a VC and I don't have any.  just a blinking cursor top-left
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> olivr: there are billions of guids for this online, have you not websearch any?
[13:35] <user01> i just have no idea how big partitions are these days in 10.04
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> user01: df -h
[13:36] <geekphreak> user01:  big?
[13:36] <glaucous> ActionParsnip, rebooted and still don't have any VCs
[13:36] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, there isnt the xchat that i know
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: not sure then dude
[13:36] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, xchat-gnome looks different
[13:36] <jadakren> olivr, billions is not an understatement.
[13:36] <noir_lord> its also possible to *permanently* move the buttons to the right for that metacity theme by editing the xml file (which I did)
[13:36] <IdleOne> ubuntu: xchat-common
[13:36] <ubuntu> and there is no pkg called xchat
[13:36] <noir_lord> still wonder what they were thinking with that change
[13:36] <dabaR> Pirate_Hunter: used to be /etc/motd
[13:36] <user01> geekphreak, well like, how much space i can expect /usr to take up with a generous program install for example
[13:36] <Parabola> ubuntu x-chat
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> jadakren: some folks are just lazy
[13:37] <dabaR> dockimble: ha. worked?
[13:37] <Pirate_Hunter> dabaR, thanks will check it out
[13:37] <user01> ActionParsnip, yep, that would work post install?
[13:37] <Parabola> user01 no one can give you an answer
[13:37] <ibuclaw> ubuntu, use xchat. xchat-gnome is a bit buggy. :)
[13:37] <jadakren> ActionParsnip, insert [oh noes omg oh noes] image
[13:37] <dabaR> Pirate_Hunter: but not any more on my system
[13:37] <glaucous> I guess I'm going to have to go find a more stable distro. :(
[13:37] <user01> Parabola, not even a ballpark
[13:37] <Parabola> user01 literally its impossible for us to tell you how much data you're using on your pc
[13:37] <ubuntu> ibuclaw, i cant find the pkg xchat
[13:37] <leagris> geekphreak, still there after rm /usr/lib/thunderbird :(
[13:37] <Parabola> user01 no mate, every app has a different install size
[13:37] <dockimble> remains to be seen, but things are flowing again
[13:37] <ibuclaw> ubuntu, where are you looking ?
[13:37] <Pirate_Hunter> dabaR, oh you wouldn't have an idea where they've changed it to?
[13:37] <jadakren> user01, for long term use i am looking at putting /usr on its own partition at 20gb.
[13:37] <ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[13:37] <ubuntu> ibuclaw, apt-get
[13:38] <Parabola> user01 you would have to get a ballpark for your own machines :(
[13:38] <Dav|d> noir_lord, I personally don't have a problem with the change to the left for close/min/max buttons...it puts those things closer to the menus as it is
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> user01: the installer tells you how big the data space is you have to work with
[13:38] <ubuntu> i even did apt-get update
[13:38] <ibuclaw> ubuntu, sudo apt-get install xchat
[13:38] <acicula> ibuclaw, its called xchat2
[13:38] <geekphreak> leagris: what i do i dont delete them like that :)
[13:38] <ubuntu> ibuclaw, E: Couldn't find package xchat
[13:38] <Parabola> Dav|d mac style :D
[13:38] <ibuclaw> acicula, is it ?? :s
[13:38] <dabaR> Pirate_Hunter: Maybe I just deleted it. Is it there?
[13:38] <ubuntu> gives this error
[13:38] <Dav|d> Parabola, so?
[13:38] <IdleOne> acicula: no it isn't
[13:38] <dabaR> dockimble: sweet.
[13:38] <acicula> ibuclaw, err wait, nvm
[13:38] <Parabola> Dav|d how is so a response to that? wtf planet are you from
[13:38] <geekphreak> leagris:  i have this backup folder, where i move stuff when i wana delete , kinda of like temp holder, see if it works ok  :d
[13:38] <IdleOne> ubuntu: the package is call xchat-common
[13:38] <Dav|d> lol Parabola ...sorry
[13:38] <Parabola> Dav|d lol
[13:38] <Dav|d> Parabola, you're right
[13:39] <user01> Parabola, for the home directory yes . . . but I mean you couldnt even guestimate for like a boot or var/log partition?
[13:39] <Parabola> user01 boot and log, i suppose so
[13:39] <ibuclaw> papul|lucid, go to System->Administration->Software Sources
[13:39] <papul|lucid> IdleOne, E: Couldn't find package xchat-common
[13:39] <Parabola> user01 but depending on whats logging
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> !info xchat-common lucid
[13:39] <Dav|d> Parabola, for example, when I have a newly install ubuntu system I get rid of the bottom panel and put as much as I can on the top panel
[13:39] <ibuclaw> papul|lucid, ensure that Multiverse and Universe repositories are enabled.
[13:39] <papul|lucid> ibuclaw, lol ok i am in live mode thats why
[13:39] <ibuclaw> papul|lucid, then reload sources. :)
[13:39] <user01> Parabola, well i mean, apache2, ssh, standard services
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> papul|lucid: make sure you have universe repo enabled in software sources
[13:40] <IdleOne> papul|lucid: then you are not running lucid
[13:40] <dabaR> papul|lucid: you can search with "aptitude search package_name"
[13:40] <IdleOne> !info xchat-comon
[13:40] <minimec> ran_: Following a german ubuntu thread, this card is not well supported. http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/compiz-mit-s3-inc.-vt8375-prosavage8-km266-kl/
[13:40] <Parabola> Dav|d ah, i get rid of the top panel and do all on bottom
[13:40] <Pirate_Hunter> dabaR, I just checked and the file exist however what I want to know is which file(s) edit information in that file
[13:40] <IdleOne> !info xchat-common
[13:40] <geekphreak> IdleOne: howdy :)
[13:40] <Parabola> Dav|d more than one panel is just a waste of screenspace for me
[13:40] <papul|lucid> ibuclaw, how to reload sources?
[13:40] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: me back
[13:40] <noir_lord> Dav|d, I have nearly 20 years of muscle memory telling me the buttons are on the top right, I tried leaving them on the left but after a day it disrupted things too much, using a GUI should be effortless
[13:40] <Dav|d> Parabola, I think it's smart to put those buttons nearest to the File menu and so forth
[13:40] <IdleOne> morning geekphreak
[13:40] <dabaR> Pirate_Hunter: man motd
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: it does, i made her show it earlier
[13:40] <noir_lord> principle of least surprise applies
[13:40] <Dav|d> Parabola, I agree
[13:40] <jrib> sergiu14_: are you going to do what I asked or what?
[13:40] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: cool
[13:40] <Parabola> Dav|d me too, thats why apple does it
[13:40] <Parabola> Dav|d i like my MB
[13:40] <ibuclaw> papul|lucid, in the Software Sources application, just click "Close" and it will prompt you
[13:40] <isurit> what is ubuntu new version something new ?
[13:40] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: help me for java installation in ubuntu
[13:40] <dabaR> Pirate_Hunter: Seems like it might be /var/run/motd and /etc/motd.tail from my reading of the man page
[13:41] <jadakren> Parabola, im starting to see a trend in your opinions... and they seem to be founded in myth and hatred.
[13:41] <geekphreak> isurit: lucid
[13:41] <minimec> ran_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353644 Same problem you have.
[13:41] <Tecna> Dav|d: I do the same.  Then when I run a VM with Windows in seamless mode, the windows taskbar is in the right place without looking messy and stacked up on gnome-pannel
[13:41] <Parabola> myth and hatred? wow you need to get out more
[13:41] <isurit> geekphreak what lucid?
[13:41] <Dav|d> noir_lord, I'm lazy, I like all my stuff in one place...task bar and system tray and yes, even how to close
[13:41] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: :) you want java sdk ?
[13:41] <Parabola> stop listening to screamo and cutting yourself
[13:41] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: or just jre ?
[13:41] <isurit> geekphreak lucid is thec name?
[13:41] <geekphreak> isurit: new ubuntu release
[13:41] <minimec> ran_: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=335272.msg2583393 in italian...
[13:41] <jadakren> Parabola, why so serious about ui looking like mac?
[13:41] <Parabola> Dav|d any other cool UI changes?
[13:41] <Dav|d> if you were to cascade windows...it'd be a pain
[13:41] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-(jre|jdk)
[13:41] <dabaR> noir_lord: people use shortcuts, so it does not matter. ctrl-w, ctrl-q, and alt+f4 close windows
[13:42] <Dav|d> Parabola, the new scheme looks clean
[13:42] <dabaR> noir_lord: alt+tab, x maximizes the window, alt+tab, n minimizes is
[13:42] <noir_lord> Dav|d, I don't think there is a right answer, it may be better to have them on the left from a technical point of view but moving them over turns decades of user knowledge
[13:42] <Pirate_Hunter> dabaR, will check it out thanks
[13:42] <root_> bonjour tout le monde
[13:42] <dabaR> bon-jour
[13:42] <root_> y a til des francais
[13:42] <isurit> geekphreak what speciala skill?
[13:42] <geekphreak> !fr > root_
[13:42] <Dav|d> noir_lord, so change the theme!
[13:42] <verb-sap> how can i get the old "human" theme? is there a package for it or is there a website with the themes?
[13:42] <isurit> geekphreak new version == new skin?
[13:43] <jadakren> noir_lord, no it just exposes the multitude of people who don't know how to configure their system. its so simple to change the setting in question.
[13:43] <root_> je suis nouveau
[13:43] <Dav|d> the clearlooks theme has the buttons on the proper side
[13:43] <geekphreak> isurit: new bells and whitles, might be a good idea check the site ;)
[13:43] <root_> japprend sur ubuntu
[13:43] <noir_lord> Dav|d, I already did, I now have a theme called MyRadiance which has the buttons on the right, the selections orange instead of red and sane colours for the window titles
[13:43] <root_> sous backtrack
[13:43] <dabaR> !fr | root_
[13:43] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: : Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:43] <abhijain> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[13:43] <IdleOne> root_: tapper /join #ubuntu-fr pour rejoindre le canal francais
[13:43] <dabaR> geekphreak: see, that's why I did not like the idea of ubottu pm'ing people
[13:43] <Dav|d> noir_lord, so why complain?
[13:43] <isurit> geekphreak i love ubuntu but that so differcult . . .
[13:43] <obscurant1st_> geekphreak, i got a little application for minimizing thunderbird to doack, called alltray
[13:43] <obscurant1st_> :)
[13:43] <root_> merci mais comment on fais?
[13:43] <isurit> so i moved osX
[13:43] <mirak> hi
[13:43] <jadakren> Dav|d, because its what they do.
[13:43] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: you can get lock open by not having anything acquired a lock :D
[13:43] <geekphreak> dabaR: excuse me?
[13:44] <user01> would it make a difference if i make the boot directory ext3 and the rest ext4?
[13:44] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: are you still having lock issues ?
[13:44] <minimec> ran_: the italian post sais, that you should have compiz running.
[13:44] <mirak> how often the main mirrors are modified ?
[13:44] <noir_lord> Dav|d, because my gf (long time windows user, rarely uses linux but uses my PC if its on) hated it so much she rebooted the machine into XP
[13:44] <Dav|d> noir_lord, you'd just utilized the beauty of linux-based systems...if you don't like it, change itg
[13:44] <geekphreak> obscurant1st_: add on ?
[13:44] <Dav|d> -g
[13:44] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: yeah
[13:44] <Tecna> why the **** does ubottu speak english to people when telling them check their PM for a message about french-language support?
[13:44] <noir_lord> thats *not* a good way to attract new users
[13:44] <isurit> geekphreak so i moved mac osX , that is very simple and beauty , and stable...
[13:44] <root_> ubotto t plus la
[13:44] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: you are doing something wrong, seems like you start some application that acquires the lock then it doesn't terminate cleanly
[13:44] <dabaR> geekphreak: when wise_crypt asked for that...people don't know about PM when they first come to IRC.
[13:44] <jadakren> user01, possibly since ext4 isn't as stable as ext3...relatively speaking.
[13:44] <noir_lord> Dav|d, I realised that in '96, its not an issue to me, I think it is an issue to new converts and it seemed an arbitrary change
[13:45] <dabaR> Tecna: why does it rain on long holidays?
[13:45] <user01> jadakren, thats why i wanted it as boot :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> dabaR: murphy's law
[13:45] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: I used to get that when I tried to install the nvidia graphics drivier from their interface instead of synaptics. do you have any idea how its happening on your side ?
[13:45] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: its only with java
[13:45] <obscurant1st_> geekphreak, nope, its an application, installed like sudo apt-get install alltray
[13:45] <jadakren> noir_lord, there is a common misconception
[13:45] <IdleOne> root_: je t'ai dit comment faire. Tapper /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:45] <geekphreak> dabaR: agree to some extent, new comes use gui, they can see blink window, aint like cli , but point taken
[13:45] <root_> COMMENT ON FAIS POUR ALLER SUR UN FORUM EN FRANCAIS SVP
[13:45] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: what's only with java ?
[13:45] <user01> jadakren, ext3 that is
[13:45] <sinux> ActionParsnip, hi
[13:45] <Dav|d> noir_lord, perhaps, but it's easy to switch back to
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> sinux: yo
[13:45] <geekphreak> obscurant1st_: ok kool thanks , will keep an eye on it
[13:46] <root_> MERCI IDLEONE
[13:46] <Tecna> root_: ubottu est un robot.
[13:46] <noir_lord> Dav|d, for me yes, I'm a programmer and I've been using linux since the mid 90's, easy for my gf if I wasnt around, definetly not
[13:46] <obscurant1st> geekphreak, np. ;)
[13:46] <Dav|d> only 1/5 of the themes bundled with ubuntu 10.04 use the dreaded "close buttons on the left"
[13:46] <minimec> ran_: You better buy a 2nd hand ATI AGP card for few bucks. Older ATI chips run nice now.
[13:46] <phakhawat> hello
[13:46] <isurit> hello
[13:46] <phakhawat> i am novice in buuntu
[13:46] <isurit> nice to meet you phakhawat.
[13:46] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: the problem issue with only with java installation other preogram working very well . also software center download working smoothly
[13:46] <Dav|d> hello phakhawat
[13:46] <phakhawat> i glad to meet you
[13:47] <isurit> phakhawat i used 2years ubuntu
[13:47]  * jadakren hides
[13:47] <isurit> but i am novice. . .too
[13:47] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: I am not sure I understand, you mean if you do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre you have the lock problem, but if you try and install anything else that works fine ??
[13:47] <phakhawat> I ues two days
[13:47] <Nick26466> ROKO__
[13:47] <IdleOne> !ot | isurit phakhawat
[13:47] <geekphreak> dabaR: if you use | , they still will talk to bot ;)
[13:47] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: I don't think that is possible
[13:47] <phakhawat> I really it
[13:47] <Dav|d> noir_lord, it's not hard to change using gconf-editor
[13:47] <noir_lord> still in every other way its an excellent release, I've been slowly weaning my gf of windows for the last 3 years, I've moved her over to open source apps for her normal usage (firefox, gimp and open office), soon I can prise XP off her laptop
[13:47] <wulfy> nice
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  thats a bonus.
[13:47] <isurit> IdleOne what ot?
[13:47] <noir_lord> should save me a day a month maintaining it :)
[13:47] <leagris> geekphreak, thank for you kind help, I will investigate the remains of any thunderbird things. Now performing some ext3 to ext4 extends adjustments as some files perform poorly: find / -type f -exec chattr +e {} \;
[13:47] <geekphreak> lol Dr_Willis
[13:47] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: yeah you are right
[13:48] <Monotoko> did anyone else jus get that??
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> noir_lord: try chromium, its spiffy
[13:48] <phakhawat> It easy mire than Win
[13:48] <IdleOne> Monotoko: yes we all did
[13:48] <geekphreak> leagris: no worries, good luck mate
[13:48] <isurit> Monotoko 10.04?
[13:48] <quesada_> anyone other that Dr_Willis  vouching for efte? I'll compile it then :)
[13:48] <wulfy> anyone know of a reliable way to manage my blackberry on ubuntu?
[13:48] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: that's weird I don't see how its possible
[13:48] <Dav|d> opera's supposedly faster
[13:48] <frxstrem> what is the /proc directory for, and what would happen if I accidentally deleted some files in it?
[13:48] <Parabola> opera is shit
[13:48] <dabaR> haha@bonus
[13:48] <jadakren> !language
[13:48] <Parabola> opera just caches all content
[13:48] <isurit> opera is very slowly and unstable. . . ..
[13:48] <Monotoko> IdleOne, alright, isurit, huh?#
[13:48] <Android> Hi All, i've an issue with 10.4 and resuming from another usrs login
[13:48] <noir_lord> ActionParsnip, already have, some interesting architectural approaches but FF has broader support and better plugins (for now)
[13:48] <Dav|d> I have a netbook but I've never tried chromium yet
[13:48] <Parabola> that doesnt make its rendering any better
[13:49] <isurit> IdleOne , what ot? i don't aks question..
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> noir_lord: i suggest you check the extensions library, its massive
[13:49] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: its weird me too . ubutu cant install two programme at a time
[13:49] <Dav|d> noir_lord is right
[13:49] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: of course it can't!
[13:49] <jadakren> Dav|d, not really.
[13:49] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: haven't you figured that out yet !?
[13:49] <Arthur___> question, when i log out, a widget pops up and says "unknown" is not responding then choices.. logout any way .. ect. my question is how do i figure out what unkown is?
[13:49] <IdleOne> isurit: exactly. this channel is for ubuntu support related questions, if you wish to chat about other topics please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: i was on fedora before some day
[13:49] <dabaR> Android: do you have more info for us?
[13:49] <isurit> i got it thank you IdleOne :)
[13:50] <Dav|d> adblock and flashblock are almost necessary on netbooks
[13:50] <strings_> abhijain: ubuntu cant.. apt cannot :P
[13:50] <artafinde> Anyone got issues with radeon driver on old chipset? I can't get radeon to work with clean install on Lucid on an Ati Mobility radeon 9700 laptop
[13:50] <strings_> abhijain: err ubuntu can
[13:50] <jadakren> Dav|d, noir_lord your points used to discount chrome against firefox are invalid. the only thing you should be using is that firefox is stable but slow where chrome is unstable but bleeding fast.
[13:50] <Dav|d> but firefox is so bloated it's a no-win situation
[13:50] <Monotoko> im having some issues getting wifi working on a Dell Inspiron Mini 1011 running lucid, originally it said "Device Not Ready" under the network manager, after installing the proprietary drivers, it now shows the networks...but whenever i try and connect to any network, it fails and comes back asking for the key, even though i know its right.
[13:50] <Tecna> frxstrem: are we speaking hypothetically, or did you just delete something without knowing what it was?
[13:50] <abhijain> strings_: yeah agree
[13:50] <papul|lucid_> Dav|d, use chrome
[13:50] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: any application that installs a software package acquires a lock on the dpkg, so no other application can do any installation related task simultaneously to avoid inconsistency
[13:50] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: that's a very simple thing really
[13:50] <Dav|d> I'll try it out
[13:51] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: if you want to install multiple things, simple separate them with spaces in sudo apt-get install <app1> <app2>
[13:51] <Dav|d> chrome's better on netbooks I take it?
[13:51] <Android> yes, I have set up my PC today from scratch with a 10.4cd, setup 3 users. If the machine is idle, system goes to screen saver, If my wife has logged on, shes away and I try to log on, i cancel her password and click on my user name. at this stage the screen goes blank
[13:51] <jadakren> Dav|d, better on anything.
[13:51] <minimec> artafinde: I have an 9600 mobility running like charm  with an external sceen connected, configured with xrandr. I love it. WHat you say surprises me really...
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: define "better"
[13:51] <Android> thats it, have to reboot to get system running again
[13:51] <jadakren> ActionParsnip, better = cooks curry & washes dishes.
[13:51] <barberan> Is it possible to install ubuntu on my HP hx4700 iPaq ?
[13:51] <dabaR> artafinde: hm...you have a process that stops responding. You could try to see in the list of processes
[13:51] <noir_lord> Dav|d, noscript is nice as well on a netbook takes some getting used to but once its customised to your preferences its nice
[13:51] <neil3> hey everyone, anyone else had problems with Ubuntu One not uploading/syncing files in Lucid?
[13:52] <dabaR> artafinde: sorry.
[13:52] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: but at this time  i m installing some software from software center and tring to installtion for java fronm command line
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> jadakren: exactly, people bandy "better" around with zero qualification of the term, its very funny
[13:52] <Dav|d> ActionParsnip, faster, more support for flash and whatnot
[13:52] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: that is not possible
[13:52] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: I thought you'd have figure that out by now...
[13:52] <minimec> artafinde: Can you give me the output of lspci | grep VGA ?
[13:52] <Dav|d> I go to youtube on my netbook and it skips
[13:52] <frxstrem> Tecna: let's just say it's hypothetically
[13:52] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: well now you know
[13:52] <jadakren> Dav|d, i dont bother watching flash movies like youtube in firefox.
[13:52] <Mark_> 10.04 ftw
[13:52] <dabaR> Arthur___: hm...you have a process that stops responding. You could try to see in the list of processes, but that is not for the faint-hearted
[13:52] <leagris> Dav|d, there are alternatives like Konqueror, Opera, Chrome. I rekon Chrome has very nice performances.
[13:52] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: only once the software center installation finishes & you close it can you install anything else
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: i havent met an X based browser not like flash, webkit in my experience is very quick and leaves firefox in the dust
[13:53] <dabaR> IdleOne: are you a bot?
[13:53] <TDJACR> I accidentally started a RAID device (1) with two identical ext4 partions. How can I recover them.
[13:53] <dabaR> IdleOne: sorry, a op
[13:53] <IdleOne> dabaR: only at work
[13:53] <IdleOne> dabaR: yes
[13:53] <Dav|d> I'll figure it out
[13:53] <amabo> how do i open a nautilus window with sudo privelages?
[13:53] <geekphreak> IdleOne: lol well said mate
[13:53] <jadakren> dabaR, and when people ask if its a bot
[13:53] <jadakren> amabo, use gksu nautilus
[13:54] <IdleOne> dabaR: Can I help you with something?
[13:54] <Tecna> frxstrem: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/ch-proc.html
[13:54] <Dav|d> amabo, from a command line
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: just symlink the flashplugin .so file into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins   and you got flash
[13:54] <dabaR> IdleOne: not sure yet
[13:54] <frxstrem> Tecna: okay, thanks
[13:54] <Dav|d> ActionParsnip, I never said I wouldn't try it
[13:54] <jadakren> ActionParsnip, doesn't that happen by default anyway ?
[13:54] <hmw> I just installed wicd (on jaunty), but the icon, that used to appeart, just doesnt. What can I do?
[13:54] <Dav|d> ActionParsnip, just that I haven't
[13:54] <Tecna> frxstrem: There's no reason to delete anything in /proc
[13:54] <ferrando> there?
[13:55] <Dav|d> afk
[13:55]  * dabaR is just having a hard time reading the chan with all the browser and OS wars, but not sure whether it really is a problem to him or not
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> jadakren: not sure, i use 64bit native flash
[13:55] <ferrando> anybody there to help me?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: never said you hadn't. just a friendly inform
[13:55] <hmw> !ask | ferrando
[13:55]  * jadakren thinks dabaR does not do website development
[13:55] <dabaR> TDJACR: what do you mean recover them?
[13:55] <dabaR> jadakren: I do. why?
[13:55] <Pirate_Hunter> I cannot find boomisc.sh in /etinit.d/  if that is the case where else is that script being called from?
[13:56] <jadakren> dabaR, i find that hard to believe with a comment like that
[13:56] <ferrando> I have upgraded to ubuntu 10 and now it is impossible to start with windows xp...
[13:56] <hmw> penguin42: apt-get stopped because of a missing /var/log/apt folder. Now my wicd icon is missing. Any hints?
[13:56] <noir_lord> from a design point of view webkit is extremely good (not surprising its developed from a codebase created by the KDE team) I just prefer FF
[13:56] <hmw> penguin42: i de/reinstalled already
[13:56] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: in jre installtion now output comes  with new blue window  Configuring sun-java6-jre  and with ok button when i m clicking on on no further processing for installation
[13:56] <datroubler> If someone could help me with my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469496
[13:56] <dabaR> jadakren: OK.
[13:56] <datroubler> thios would be nice
[13:56] <penguin42> hmw: Hmm not really
[13:56] <TDJACR> dabaR: I put two ext4 partitions in one raid device. I expected them to work as a RAID-1 device, but instead it corrupted the ext4 filesystem, and neither the device (md3) nor the partitions (sd[bd]1) could be mounted as ext4
[13:57] <user01> virtual machines are installed into home directories, or usr?  th actual OS images?
[13:57] <TDJACR> I would like to restore the partitions
[13:57] <IdleOne> jadakren: I believe dabaR was trying to point out that the whole "which browser is better" talk is offtopic
[13:57] <ace-laptop1> ! fix panel
[13:57] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: you need to press enter, I don't think click will work
[13:57] <jadakren> user01, in your home folder under ~/.virtualbox
[13:57] <IdleOne> !panels
[13:57] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: that's on the terminal
[13:57] <Dav|d> back
[13:57] <penguin42> TDJACR: Explain the structure of filesystems/RAID you built
[13:57] <acidfu> hi guys, how do I turn off Balloon messages that pop up when I 'mouse over' something in ubuntu 10.04, thanks
[13:57] <jadakren> IdleOne, ah yes.. i see.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: i dont have the file on my cleanly installed lucid
[13:57] <joschi> hi, when using partman-auto with an "expert recipe" in a preseed file it always seems to generate a faulty partition table. installation eventually works and the system boots, but cfdisk and fdisk say the partition table (esp. the first partition) is incorrect
[13:57] <user01> jadakren, OK thanks, just to know how big to make usr
[13:57] <joschi> I used the example from https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt to verify it and it also results in a faulty partition table
[13:57] <abhijain> abhijain: yeah on the terminal
[13:57] <ace-laptop1> thanks IdleOne
[13:57] <joschi> has anyone else the same problem? I couldn't find a bug report for this issue
[13:58] <jadakren> user01, will you install many *-doc packages  ?
[13:58] <dabaR> IdleOne: well not just that...I don't want to bug the guy, but look at the whole afk/back thing...
[13:58] <jadakren> dabaR, i find turning off join/part messages is pretty pro in this channel.
[13:58] <dabaR> jadakren: Got that.
[13:58] <dabaR> Thanks
[13:59] <TDJACR> penguin42: (md0-md2) were all created when the system was created, fresh with ext4 filesystems. Using sd[ac][123] They're fine.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: can I pm you please duder
[13:59] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: you may
[13:59] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, neither do I, but motd still get recreated meaning another file elsewhere is doing it yet man only point to that directory for the bootmisc.sh, I just wish to look at it to understand how I can edit it
[13:59] <A-R-R> When Radiance or Ambiance theme is active, the bookmarks in chrome appear cropped. I filed this bug in chromium's bug page before I realised that when I change the theme to something other than ambiance and radiance the bookmarks are proper. Where should I report this. I am not getting an answer on the forums or the IRC from the past three days.
[13:59] <TDJACR> penguin42: md3, was created later, using two identical partitions with data and an ext4 FS
[13:59] <hawkal> anyone know how I could use bleachbits (or another drive wiper) on an external drive
[13:59] <user01> jadakren, maybe
[13:59] <TDJACR> sdb1 and sdd1
[13:59] <user01> jadakren, you mean man pages?
[13:59] <penguin42> TDJACR: And then you just created the ext4fs on /dev/md3 ?
[13:59] <TDJACR> I misunderstood the mdadm command, and it jumbled the filesystems
[13:59] <Dav|d> so I want to set up a folding@home server farm...who here can walk me through it? :P
[13:59] <TDJACR> penguin42: No
[14:00] <hmw> penguin42: i am SOO happy, that I made a partimage of that system. How is one supposed to survice Ubuntu?? *smirks*
[14:00] <TDJACR> penguin42: It already existed
[14:00] <hmw> survive
[14:00] <dabaR> Dav|d: what is folding@home?
[14:00] <TDJACR> I expected them to start working together
[14:00] <TDJACR> But I was wrong
[14:00] <FireHearte> Quick question. I just started to use this. Is this just chatting?
[14:00] <jadakren> user01, man pages are just one portion of things a doc package might provide. i installed just about all the python-*-doc packages i could and my / partition is nearly full...im looking at moving /usr to a new 20gb partition.
[14:00] <VeasMKII> how do i watch dvd's in ubuntu?
[14:00] <VeasMKII> 10.04
[14:00] <Dav|d> dabaR, um...it's something good that helps humanity lol
[14:00] <penguin42> TDJACR: No, that's not how RAID/md works - you create a special block device from two others, and then create the filesystem on top
[14:00] <Dav|d> sec
[14:00] <hawkal> multiplayer noepad
[14:00] <Tecna> Does #ubuntu+1 really need an invitation, or is something wrong with my client?
[14:00] <hawkal> notepad*
[14:00] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: what to do now after configuration window
[14:00] <TDJACR> penguin42: I understand that now :P
[14:00] <jadakren> dabaR, it's a red herring.
[14:01] <IdleOne> FireHearte: this channel is for ubuntu support related questions. #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Tecna:  its closed..  lucid is out
[14:01] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: is the installation complete ?
[14:01] <Dav|d> http://folding.stanford.edu/
[14:01] <hmw> Tecna: one needs an invitation. Lucid is out already.
[14:01] <A-R-R> Tecna, ubuntu+1 is fore development versions which currently does not really exist as lucid just released
[14:01] <penguin42> hmw: You're doing something a bit odd with the way you're doing /var/log and it's not too much of a surprise a few things are breaking because of it
[14:01] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: well what do you want to do !?
[14:01] <Android> dabaR, yes, I have set up my PC today from scratch with a 10.04cd, setup 3 users. If the machine is idle, system goes to screen saver, If my wife has logged on, shes away and I try to log on, i cancel her password and click on my user name. at this stage the screen goes blank
[14:01] <dabaR> Dav|d: so you want to install this software on your computer, eh?
[14:01] <user01> jadakren, well i was going to use at least 20GB for usr because Im going to do  full tex-live install
[14:01] <amabo> holy crap i love this ubuntu stuff
[14:02] <Dav|d> dabaR, it's a little more complicated than that
[14:02] <Tecna> I think #ubuntu+1 should stay open for a few weeks for support specifically relevant to upgrading...
[14:02] <amabo> is there a better window switcher than the one installed?
[14:02] <jadakren> amabo, i just had to cover the eyes of my non existant child.
[14:02] <dabaR> Android: I read. I don't use that, and don't really know what to suggest. Hm...is this the same compter you are on now? Would be easier to test a litle if it was not
[14:02] <bilalakhtar> People, how long does it take for you to get from grub to plymouth in lucid? for me it takes 10 seconds, which i think is long. Is this normal?
[14:02] <hmw> penguin42: well... perhaps. But its not only apt. Everything breaks so easily. Mucht too often beyond repair-ability. Ubuntu has become a Windows clone. Guess, I should be using a real Linux or just give up at all.
[14:02] <amabo> jadakren: i don't get it
[14:02] <jadakren> bilalakhtar, assuming plymouth does not crash
[14:02] <user01> jadakren, and i just  bought a 500GB hard drive, but i wanted to use that for downloads mainly
[14:02] <Dav|d> dabaR, I have 3 computers, one which will be a server, the other two are diskless but will contribute cpu power to the main server
[14:02] <jadakren> !language | amabo
[14:02] <A-R-R> I am sorry, but I don't know if my messages are getting through this IRC client, are they?
[14:02] <dabaR> Tecna: interesting idea
[14:03] <abhijain> dhruvasagar: i just use command as u told me for jre and now after little time i got a new output window which have ok button but how to further process
[14:03] <Dav|d> something like that
[14:03] <z0net> How can I downgrade a package? (libsdl 1.2.14 to libsdl 1.2.13) ?
[14:03] <TDJACR> penguin42: Am I done, or is there a way to rectify this.
[14:03] <amabo> jadakren: whoops - sorry
[14:03] <dhruvasagar> abhijain: as I said press 'ENTER'
[14:03] <Tecna> dabaR: Who should I make that suggestion to?
[14:03] <Android> dabaR, just noticed that the proprietary driver for the graphics card wasn't installed, am installing it now
[14:03] <bilalakhtar> jadakren: Yes, plymouth doesn't crash for me, but it starts up late
[14:03] <hmw> penguin42: I am not the only one, who prevents logs to be written onto an SSD. What would you do in my case?
[14:03] <dabaR> Tecna: dunno, you can pitch it to #ubuntu-ops, I suppose
[14:04] <jadakren> bilalakhtar, if it crashes for me it means a restart
[14:04] <datta> i am trying to upgrade to 10.04 from 8.10 but no update for the lts is coming up
[14:04] <dabaR> Android: OK.
[14:04] <user01> jadakren, was thinking 50 GB for usr
[14:04] <dabaR> A-R-R: yes
[14:04] <datta> does anyone know how i can bring this, even through i have tried update-manager -d and reloaded the update manager
[14:04] <A-R-R> dabaR, thank you
[14:04] <daurnimator> after upgrading my minimize/close buttons have moved to the left... is this normal?
[14:04] <dabaR> A-R-R: you can !test, or /msg ubottu test
[14:04] <jadakren> user01, also consider what would be stored in /var ( are you going to be running mysql or apache etc etc ? )
[14:04] <daurnimator> if so, how do I move them back to teh right
[14:05] <bilalakhtar> datta: You want to upgrade to Lucid?
[14:05] <jadakren> !controls
[14:05] <IdleOne> !controls | daurnimator yes it is normal
[14:05] <user01> jadakren, yep, it is a webserver too
[14:05] <dabaR> Dav|d: so what have you done so far?
[14:05] <darkbluesea> s
[14:05] <paolopoz> hello all - i just installed virtualbox-ose from universe, but when I try to run it, it states that the kernel module is missing
[14:05] <k0ala> !slitaz
[14:05] <A-R-R> dabaR, in the #ubuntu channel itself ?
[14:05] <datta> bilalakhtar: yes
[14:05] <z0net> How can I downgrade a package? (libsdl 1.2.14 to libsdl 1.2.13) ?
[14:05] <Dav|d> dabaR, lol...set them all beside each other ;)
[14:05] <bilalakhtar> datta: If you have problems with the update-manager telling you the latest release, please try out these steps which I will tell in a minute
[14:05] <dabaR> !test
[14:05] <k0ala> the new 10.04 sux
[14:05] <datta> daurnimator: it's just the theme
[14:05] <Tecna> hmw: I personally think it's a good idea to disable logging to an SSD, since frequent writes can kill them fast.
[14:05] <DarkSector> k0ala: what's wrong ?
[14:06] <bilalakhtar> datta: Open up software sources from the system->administration menu
[14:06] <jadakren> paolopoz, you need to restart. kernel module only takes effect after reboot i think
[14:06] <Dav|d> dabaR, I was being sarcastic earlier, I can read guides to figure out how to use ltsp
[14:06] <user01> jadakren, but there is logrotate too . . .
[14:06] <Tecna> hmw: I wouldn't be discouraged by others telling you not to
[14:06] <dabaR> k0ala: any specific issues?
[14:06] <paolopoz> jadakren: already done :-P
[14:06] <datta> bilalakhtar: okay
[14:06] <bilalakhtar> datta: What is the selected option in the "Download From:" dialog box?
[14:06] <noir_lord> jadakren, not always, DKMS modules don't require a reboot
[14:06] <dabaR> z0net: uninstall it, then install a specific version, probably
[14:06] <paolopoz> even when I try to do this manually it says that vboxdrv is missing
[14:06] <A-R-R> !test
[14:06] <jadakren> noir_lord, assuming DKMS is installed.
[14:06] <datta> it's one from MIT
[14:07] <narfolizer> i've got a problem setting up a wlan connection in ubuntu 10.04 . it keeps connecting to the router for some minutes, but without sucess. any ideas?
[14:07] <bilalakhtar> !botabuse > A-R-R
[14:07] <k0ala> DarkSector,  almost everything! my system became so sluggish after upgrading. and no graphics support./audio. i thought i was on windows.. so switched to slitaz
[14:07] <geekphreak>  tc folks, catch you all later :)
[14:07] <datta> bilalakhtar: it's the closest one for me
[14:07] <hmw> Tecna: I know. I just put my /var/log to a tmpfs but that is causing serious troubles. For example, the install of wicd crashed due to the folder /var/log/apt missing. I am not sure, how to tackle this problem, since I cant creat folders, which I don't know that are missing. :(
[14:07] <lokad> hello folks
[14:07] <bilalakhtar> datta: Which server? India?
[14:07] <noir_lord> jadakren, in an ubuntu channel thats a safe assumption its been part of the distro since 8.10
[14:07] <noir_lord> the one useful thing Dell ever made ;)
[14:07] <datta> bilalakhtar: not it's in the US from MIT.edu
[14:07] <DarkSector> k0ala: even though upgrading is an option, its a better choice to reinstall the whole distro afresh
[14:07] <jadakren> user01, maybe you would like to use the server version of ubuntu, it provides ability to have folders to exist across many partitions.
[14:07] <Dav|d> holy crapola
[14:08] <Tecna> hmw: do you have any non ssd drives?
[14:08] <jadakren> noir_lord, pretty sure that in karmic i had to install it manually
[14:08] <Dav|d> the channel list here rivels dalnet
[14:08] <paolopoz> I have dkms installed
[14:08] <user01> jadakren, well its being used primary as a desktop
[14:08] <IdleOne> !language > Dav|d
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> DarkSector: both have advantages
[14:08] <k0ala> DarkSector, i did.. main distro graphics makes it so sluggish that i cannot work.. xubuntu doesnt support sound
[14:08] <datta> bilalakhtar: i am going to cohse the main server to check if it comes up or not
[14:08] <dabaR> DarkSector: I am not so convinced. And especially in a support channel
[14:08] <jadakren> user01, maybe investigate LVMS then ?
[14:08] <noir_lord> jadakren, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex/TechnicalOverview
[14:08] <Pirate_Hunter> how come the ubuntu server guide is still based on 8.04?
[14:08] <lokad> I have a question regarding nautilus: When trying to open my personal folder from "Places - Home" it tells me that no registered application understands "file:///". This is under Lucid. In Alpha and Beta this worked :(
[14:08] <adac> booting is very slow. It seems that it has to wait for the encryption of my home directory...any ideas?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: surely a channel cannot be compared with a network, doesn't make sense
[14:08] <bilalakhtar> datta: Yes that's what I was going to tell ya
[14:08] <user01> jadakren, i dont like lvms
[14:08] <thevishy> how do I make the avant MAC like panel transparent ?
[14:09] <user01> :)
[14:09] <k0ala> DarkSector, infact for the last week i have been doing nothing but changing anf trying enew distros
[14:09] <DarkSector> ActionParsnip: the advantage would only be you get to keep your earlier packages and less hassle.
[14:09] <datta> bilalakhtar: all right lets see if the problem still persist
[14:09] <user01> jadakren, it looks all messy
[14:09] <hmw> Tecna: the computer i am talking about is a Netbook. I had it running already, but Apache was complaining about /var/log/apache2 missing, so I tried to move the mkdir commands from rc.local to /etc/init.d/create-tmpfs-files and using a link in /etc/rc2.d  ... that was where my current problems started.
[14:09] <jadakren> user01, unfortunate. i don't understand it yet... although having the ability to expand the size of a partition by adding new drives is nice
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> DarkSector: indeed :)
[14:09] <noir_lord> Pirate_Hunter, because good documentation takes time and 8.04 was a LTS release
[14:09] <Dav|d> ActionParsnip, there are more "chat rooms" here than there were on dalnet 10 years ago
[14:09] <Dav|d> not sure what dalnet is like now
[14:09] <Pirate_Hunter> noir_lord, fair point
[14:10] <bilalakhtar> datta: Wait a minute after opening update-manager. It might take time to show the latest release (for me it took 15 seconds)
[14:10] <k0ala> i have been using slitaz for now 3 days and it looks very promising
[14:10] <alex88> noir_lord: should now will be based on 10.04?
[14:10] <Tecna> hmw: sorry, that's beyond me.
[14:10] <DarkSector> ActionParsnip: but when you install the new version, all the problems of package compatibility and other stuff is well less hassle :)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Dav|d: the network is freenode then
[14:10] <Jenk> how do i get a list of the programs i've installed ?
[14:10] <wise_crypt> !topic > Dav|d
[14:10] <user01> jadakren, i know, but it just seems to cover up problems
[14:10] <datta> bilalakhtar: well my software sources is freezing when i press close, does not go for the complete reload
[14:10] <penguin42> hmw: You could try using aufs to create a union fs between the real /var/log and a ramfs
[14:10] <noir_lord> alex88, I would expect so but you'd have to ask them
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> DarkSector: some people upgrade with zero issues
[14:10] <DarkSector> dabaR: personally I'd go for a fresh install...but whatever one likes..
[14:10] <dabaR> k0ala: super.did you come just to tell us it sucks?
[14:10] <IdleOne> !clone > Jenk
[14:10] <k0ala> exactly
[14:10] <wise_crypt> !offtopic > Dav|d
[14:11] <bilalakhtar> datta: Wait for some time, software sources often goes unresponsive
[14:11] <DarkSector> ActionParsnip: exactly ! "some" people :D\
[14:11] <ragnar> Hi there
[14:11] <k0ala> even my friend said thati should change to mint
[14:11] <dabaR> DarkSector: you gotta understand how poor it would look for a OS distribution to say that fresh installation of a new version is the recommended way, tho, right?
[14:11] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: dpkg -l
[14:11] <DarkSector> dabaR: lawl
[14:11] <A-R-R> When Radiance or Ambiance theme is active, the bookmarks in chrome appear cropped. Where should I report this. I am not getting an answer on the forums or the IRC from the past three days.
[14:11] <adac> Is 40 seconds boot time to slow?
[14:11] <DarkSector> dabaR: yeah, so that responisibility is ours :D
[14:11] <hmw> penguin42: i shall google into it.
[14:11] <k0ala> adac, yes
[14:11] <icf7> A-R-R: Chrome.
[14:11] <dabaR> adac: it really depends
[14:11] <k0ala> adac, should be around 20-30
[14:12] <noir_lord> to be fair in the windows world its just the same, upgrade versions of windows are avoided by anyone who has ever tried to use an upgrade version of windows
[14:12] <DarkSector> k0ala: wow, you have really high standards man, good luck with your pc :D
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> DarkSector: so one option isn't outright better :)
[14:12] <dabaR> adac: you could have a bunch of startup stuff, or nothing.
[14:12] <ragnar> I just installed fresh 10.04 on my laptop on friday and since then my display drivers have been crap
[14:12] <noir_lord> at least with linux its trivial to decouple /home from the operating system
[14:12] <Jenk> umm, a list of programs/apps that have been installed via synaptic
[14:12] <DarkSector> ActionParsnip: I never said it did, I said, a personal choice :D
[14:12] <penguin42> ragnar: What graphics card
[14:12] <Android> adac, this machine on windows was like 5 minutes, Ubuntu 10.04, 30 seconds
[14:12] <k0ala> DarkSector, high standards?
[14:12] <DarkSector> k0ala: 40 seconds slow ?
[14:12] <penguin42> boot time has got to be the neatest thing in lucid
[14:12] <ragnar> penguin42: ATI Radeon x1400
[14:12] <hmw> Android: Windows booting 5 minutes means, it was broken.
[14:13] <k0ala> DarkSector, yeah with ubuntu yes
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> noir_lord: you can do it in windows, even xp has the option to attatch a newly formatted partition to an empty folder, so if you empty out the my docs folder you can make the new partition mount there
[14:13] <penguin42> ragnar: My guess is that you should uninstall and then reinstall frglx
[14:13] <A-R-R> icf7, I did. but how do I know whether its a chrome bug or the themes.
[14:13] <bilalakhtar> noir_lord: one thing with windoze is that a program running on xp may not run on vista. in ubuntu that is NOT the case. a program for 8.04 will run on 10.04 also, as long as all deps are installed
[14:13] <ragnar> penguin42: done that, few times
[14:13] <k0ala> mine used to boot in like 20-25 s
[14:13] <wise_crypt> !offtopic
[14:13] <ragnar> penguin42: and differend versions
[14:13] <adac> dabaR, k0ala well I have not much installed that runs at startup/bootup so it seems to long to me. Anyone wants to take a look at my bootchart png? I'm not able to extract things that might slow down the boot process
[14:13] <Craig`> sorry, i've forgot the command to search for packages.. `apt get <something> <package>`
[14:13] <Dav|d> nuts!
[14:13] <Android> hmw, yeah, couldn't be bothered fixing it, too many other winblows machines to fix.
[14:13] <Craig`> I've forgot <something>
[14:13] <dabaR> Craig`: aptitude search package_name
[14:13] <Craig`> thanks
[14:14] <IdleOne> Craig`: apt-cache search
[14:14] <penguin42> ragnar: Hmm have you tried running without frglx? The open source driver does support that chip
[14:14] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, umm, not libs and all... only the apps, say like codecs or some utility like GParted... how do I get a list of that ?
[14:14] <noir_lord> ActionParsnip, indeed which is what I do on my windows box however you do have issues that by *default* XP stores operating system, applications and data on the same partition
[14:14] <DarkSector> you know its kinda strange...I have noticed, the x.10 versions are less buggy
[14:14] <ragnar> penguin42: first it was the secondary display that was all scrambled
[14:14] <k0ala> adac, ram/processor?
[14:14] <IdleOne> !windows
[14:14] <ragnar> penguin42: how would I do that?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> noir_lord: oh absolutely. I agree
[14:14] <Tecna> Craig` I don't think you're looking for apt get.  I think you're thinking of apt-get with a hyphen
[14:14] <dabaR> Craig`: aptitude is nice cause it is only aptitude, not apt-get and apt-cache..
[14:14] <Insomniaque> Hello
[14:14] <jamieaa64> Hi I'm new to ubuntu and scared. I found a method to get my graphics driver working on my Vaio P for 9.04, will it work on 10.04? Is it safe to just try it. (I have the URL)
[14:14] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: use software center, since there is no other way to see the apps installed
[14:15] <Insomniaque> bilalakhtar: aptitude does. ;)
[14:15] <Craig`> thanks
[14:15] <adac> k0ala, well dual core SU 1,40Ghz ram are 4 gigs
[14:15] <penguin42> ragnar: I'm not too sure, because I've never had frglx installed on this box at all - I've just always used the open driver; I'd say remove the frglx packages and xorg.conf and see what happens - but only if you know how to get back from that
[14:15] <thevishy> anyone here uses Avant ?
[14:15] <Craig_Dem_> jamieaa64: Try the live CD
[14:15] <hmw> jamieaa64: you could simply boot off a live cd 10.04 and see for yourself.
[14:15] <Craig`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608212 .. I was looking for xsendkeys, but does it not exist?
[14:15] <DarkSector> thevishy: yeah
[14:15] <penguin42> jamieaa64: Try a livecd
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> jamieaa64: sure, you can always just roll back what you dide, make sure you backup any conf files you modify
[14:15] <ragnar> penguin42: here is a bad photo of the secondary screen: 'http://imgur.com/edtfr.jpg
[14:15] <bilalakhtar> Insomnia1ity: aptitude will tell you the packages installed, not the apps.
[14:15] <DarkSector> thevishy: just the dock though
[14:15] <zeppers> Hi ! "ubuntu customization kit" (latest version) saves the /home directory too on liveCD iso ?
[14:15] <Insomniaque> With some googling I found that that in Ubuntu 6.10, you could install Linux without a CD using a partition on linux, and a netinstaller.
[14:15] <penguin42> ragnar: Oh messy!
[14:15] <thevishy> DarkSector, is it transparent ?
[14:15] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, am using 9.04... no Software Center... anyway to get a list ?
[14:15] <wise_crypt> Craig': add sudo for the previous stated command
[14:15] <Insomniaque> Is this still possible in Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?
[14:15] <penguin42> ragnar: That looks just like a bug in frglx
[14:15] <ragnar> penguin42: ok, I'll try that. otherwide i'm going back to 9.10
[14:15] <k0ala> adac, then definitely its slow.. mine is a p4!
[14:16] <IdleOne> !clone | Jenk
[14:16] <DarkSector> thevishy: no, but you can make it transparent, hang on lemme check
[14:16] <Insomniaque> Hah, 10.10 doesn't exist yet. 10.04 I meant.
[14:16] <jrib> !install > Insomniaque
[14:16] <Insomniaque> Thanks jrib
[14:16] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: I am afraid not.
[14:16] <noir_lord> noveau was impressive, they've made surprisingly good progress for 2D acceleration
[14:16] <wise_crypt> !msg the bot
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Insomniaque: you can but its not advised really
[14:16] <ragnar> penguin42:is frglx installed by default?
[14:16] <thevishy> yeah I wanna make it transparent
[14:16] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, thanx anyway...
[14:16] <Android> night all, 5hrs till i gotta get up..
[14:16] <abhilash> abhilash@abhilash:/media/abhilash/abhi_folder/Downloads$ ls -l
[14:16] <abhilash> total 100
[14:16] <abhilash> drwxrwxrwx 2 abhilash abhilash  4096 2006-08-17 15:58 (1981) -Killers
[14:16] <abhilash> drwxr-xr-x 2 abhilash abhilash  4096 2009-06-17 21:14 (1983) Piece of Mind
[14:16] <Craig`> wise_crypt, it still doesn't find anything
[14:16] <FloodBot4> abhilash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: Well, one thing you should know, is that one application may consist of more than one package.
[14:16] <Insomniaque> ActionParsnip: Why is that?
[14:16] <adac> k0ala, aye!
[14:16] <penguin42> ragnar: I don't think so, but before 10.04 you will have needed it to have gotten 3d
[14:17] <abhilash> how to access these using cd command?
[14:17] <WXZ> I want to set my desktop on a windows logical drive
[14:17] <DarkSector> thevishy: you need to set transparency and the colors in the engine too
[14:17] <bilalakhtar> !paste > abhilash
[14:17] <adac> k0ala, can I send you my bootchart pic may you can extract the evil program that slows me down.
[14:17] <wise_crypt> Craig': do you have aptitude and apt-cache ?
[14:17] <jrib> abhilash: cd directory\ with\ spaces    or     cd 'directory with spaces'
[14:17] <shaullx> can i transform UNR to regular ubuntu or should i just make a new install?
[14:17] <ragnar> penguin42: because the display is even broken when I boot it up from the live CD
[14:17] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, okay... but if i have the name of that app, the dependencies will be automatically installed , right ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Insomniaque: partitions make things neater and keep things orderly, also they let you manage your data storage better
[14:17] <jadakren> !remaster > jadakren
[14:17] <jrib> !tab | abhilash
[14:17] <abhilash>  jrib : i'll try n be back
[14:17] <Craig`> wise_crypt, I tried `sudo aptitude search xsendkeys`
[14:17] <Craig`> and please use backquote, not single quote
[14:17] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: Of course
[14:17] <Pirate_Hunter> will the same method for network bonding work with lucid or have they changed the way to do that?
[14:18] <alex88> if i want to upgrade a 9.10 to 10.04 and i have the iso..how can i do that without burn on cd? just mount iso in /media/cdrom ad use apt-cdrom?
[14:18] <penguin42> ragnar: Oh weird
[14:18] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: That's the main reason why apt was invented
[14:18] <jrib> alex88: iso of what?
[14:18] <Jenk> IdleOne, thanx...  but not the list of libs and what is installed in ubuntu by default... only the names of apps that have been installed by the user.
[14:18] <Lantizia> Hey will ubuntu count the onboard NIC as eth0 or eth1 if you have another NIC installed?
[14:18] <dabaR> !find xsendkeys
[14:18] <alex88> jrib: 10.04 sorry
[14:18] <jrib> alex88: the desktop cd or alternate?
[14:18] <Insomniaque> ActionParsnip: They do indeed, but why does that mean you advise against installing this way?
[14:18] <DarkSector> Lantizia: eth0
[14:18] <Tecna> !help > Tecna
[14:18] <jamieaa64> Do you think it is likely then that GMA 500 graphic card drivers that work for 9.04 then 10.04
[14:18] <jamieaa64> ?
[14:18] <alex88> jrib: desktop
[14:18] <Insomniaque> You can always delete the installation partition later, can you not?
[14:18] <Lantizia> DarkSector, positive ? :D
[14:18] <Craig`> nevermind, installed it
[14:18] <jrib> alex88: you cannot use the desktop cd to upgrade
[14:18] <wise_crypt> Craig': do you have aptitude and apt-cache ? but it's work for me with aptitude
[14:18] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, yup, and anyway that apt keeps a file os programs currently installed by the user ?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Insomniaque: as its not part of the "normal" ubuntu way
[14:18] <DarkSector> Lantizia: I tried on fedora and ubuntu, both eth0
[14:18] <dabaR> Craig`: what, the lineakd?
[14:19] <alex88> jrib: oh..so no way to do with that? should i have alternate?
[14:19] <shaullx> can i transform UNR to regular ubuntu or should i just make a new install?
[14:19] <Lantizia> DarkSector, and your PCI card NIC came up as eth1?
[14:19] <macquetero-ppc> hi guys!!
[14:19] <bilalakhtar> !msgthebot > jadakren
[14:19] <jrib> alex88: is there a reason you don't just use update-manager to upgrade?
[14:19] <abhilash> jrib: thanks a lot, now i'm able to do it.....
[14:19] <DarkSector> Lantizia: yes
[14:19] <jrib> abhilash: no problem
[14:19] <alex88> jrib: slow internet connection
[14:19] <Lantizia> cool thanx
[14:19] <Craig`> dabaR, yeah, (it said to install it when I tried xsendkeys)
[14:19] <sanderqd> shaullx: you can, i think you just need to install the ubuntu-desktop package
[14:19] <jrib> alex88: don't you have to download the cd anyway?
[14:19] <plush> heya. i have a fresh ubuntu 10.04 install on a netbook that hangs for 300-800 seconds on boot, doing seemingly nothing: http://pastebin.com/SA4VPvhk
[14:19] <dabaR> sweet, ya, Ubuntu has that thing I remember now
[14:19] <plush> is there any way i can debug and fix this?
[14:20] <alex88> jrib: yes but in another place.. and i can't mode desktop to university
[14:20] <jadakren> bilalakhtar, can i help you with something ?
[14:20] <alex88> *move
[14:20] <bilalakhtar> !msgthebot > Tecna
[14:20] <shaullx> sanderqd thanks ill try
[14:20] <jrib> alex88: I see.  Yes, get the alternate cd, then you can do what you said
[14:20] <The_Wanderer> hi guys, i want to configure my left touchpad click button to be reconfigured to act as a middle click. i tried googling it, but not much help any pointers?
[14:20] <alex88> jrib: ok i'll do that..thank you
[14:20] <bilalakhtar> jadakren: fine
[14:20] <alien92> i cant mount my ntfs drive on ubuntu 10.04
[14:20] <alien92> pls help!
[14:20] <jrib> alien92: what happens when you try?
[14:20] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: For that open up Synaptic and then see the history
[14:20] <Filthpig> holy crap, why doesn't empathy allow scrolling in chat windows? As soon as someone writes you're pulled back down, it's impossible to see if someone's written anything interesting..
[14:21] <alex88> Filthpig: lol..xD
[14:21] <alien92> its not giving me the option to mount
[14:21] <macquetero-ppc> just in case I wanna get all packages in order to make instalations without internet conection is posible download an iso dvd? or something like that!
[14:21] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, thanx, but please, could you give some more details ?
[14:21] <Tecna> bilalakhtar: Thanks.  You would think a bot would give you help when using a help command
[14:21] <ravenkin> Quick question about Ubuntu One, when you synchronize a folder to Ubuntu One shouldn't it show on the Ubuntu One website?
[14:21] <bilalakhtar> ravenkin: It should
[14:21] <alien92> jrib, its not giving me the option to mount
[14:22] <Filthpig> ravenkin: yes, but you have to wait until the upload is complete though
[14:22] <jrib> alien92: you're being vague...
[14:22] <ravenkin> Thanks bilalakhtar and Filthpig
[14:22] <noir_lord> jamieaa64, GMA500 support on linux in general is a mess (intel dropped the ball, they are usually pretty good about release open drivers but they didnt because in this case the chip isnt one of theirs)
[14:22] <DarkSector> macquetero-ppc: well, you could download and install it on one system and use AptOnCD for making a fully equipped cd
[14:22] <TDJACR> penguin42: what are my options
[14:22] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: Open up the Synaptic package manager and select the History option from the first meny
[14:22] <noir_lord> jamieaa64, if it was me (personal choice) and I had that chipset I'd stick with 9.10 while its supported while the issue resolves itself
[14:22] <Pirate_Hunter> for those that understand bonding which mode lets both cards receive and transmit at the same time?
[14:22] <k0ala> adac, i am not that experience.. sorry
[14:22] <alien92> jrib, its not showing up in the places menu bt is showing in gparted
[14:22] <penguin42> TDJACR: To get your data back off the filesystem that was there or to start again?
[14:23] <jrib> alien92: what ubuntu version?
[14:23] <TDJACR> penguin42: The former
[14:23] <adac> k0ala, no problem
[14:23] <alien92> jrib, 10.04
[14:23] <jrib> alien92: can you mount it yourself using the terminal?
[14:23] <thevishy> DarkSector, didnt get that
[14:23] <bilalakhtar> !mount | alien92
[14:23] <Insomniaque> Has anyone had luck with the Without CD (last section) of the InstallationFromLinux page? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux)
[14:23] <penguin42> TDJACR: It depends exactly what you did, if it did a raid resync over the side with the data then it will have completely erased it, the best case is that it's only erased some headeers and the rest might be recoverable
[14:23] <macquetero-ppc> DarkSector: yeah!! but if posible download the whole repos (it a crazy thing) but in debina you can download the all dvd's
[14:24] <DarkSector> thevishy: transparency 100, then mess around with the colors in the pattern engine, right now mine's translucent
[14:24] <TDJACR> penguin42: It ran for about a minute or so before iI stopped it
[14:24] <dabaR> adac: you can always make a paste somewhere, and then ask the channel to read and help with the issue.
[14:24] <enriq> should I simply do the upgrade to 10.4 by clicking the update manager's button on 9.10?
[14:24] <DarkSector> macquetero-ppc: oh well, that I dont' think is possible or if it is, then I don't know about it
[14:24] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, that helps, but is there some way that i can get that list without it organised under dates and all ?
[14:24] <penguin42> TDJACR: I've never used them but you could try the 'testdisk' package - it's supposed to be able to recover some stuff; remember on a fast disk a minute represents about 6GB of data!
[14:24] <zetheroo> why do some icons in the notification area not blend in with the panel? They have white squares around them instead ..
[14:25] <macquetero-ppc> DarkSector: :D
[14:25] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: What do you want to do ? You want to move to a new version of Ubuntu?
[14:25] <noir_lord> enriq, if you want, make sure you back up any important data first (which you should routinely do anyway)
[14:25] <Tecna> enriq: yes.  I'm doing that as we speak
[14:25] <littlepenguin> enriq if u have encrypted partitions dont do that..before u need to make special changes
[14:25] <DarkSector> zethero: the notification icons aren't built on transparent background probably thats why
[14:25] <penguin42> zetheroo: I think there was some sort of change that enabled the use of transparent bits in themes and not everything is using the new code that it needs to
[14:25] <bilalakhtar> !aptoncd | Jenk
[14:25] <adac> Anyone else want to have a look at my bootchart pic and tell me why booting takes 40 seconds? http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8997/nutellalucid201005022.png
[14:25] <adac> dabaR, ^^
[14:25] <Tecna> littlepenguin: WHAT?!?
[14:25] <adac> :)
[14:25] <glimpse_nirvana> upon upgrade to 10.04 - it get HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for all of my hard drives on boot up.  Boot up proceeds and everything (including the drives seems fine.  But hdparm -i returns the same error.  any thoughts
[14:25] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, Yes... but I want to have my old apps as well... a list of them, that I can install on the new one...
[14:26] <DarkSector> bilalakhtar: yo ! direct the bot to a privmsg, its better not to crowd
[14:26] <littlepenguin> tecccna i tried to update from 9.10 to 10.04 i have encrypted luks partitions
[14:26] <Tecna> littlepenguin: I'm upgrading right now, and I'm using LUKS.  What's going to happen?!
[14:26] <penguin42> adac: The ureadahead seems very suspicious
[14:26] <thevishy> DarkSector, I dont see anything to set transparency 100% , by engine , what shud I open
[14:26] <morsing> Right, my Ubuntu is refusing to run FD on the NIC, why would that be?
[14:26] <penguin42> adac: I'm surprised it's taking that long
[14:26] <enriq> noir_lord, Tecna, littlepenguin thanks, ok I do my daily backup and upgrade, thanks (no encrypted partitions)... but I do have a separate /home and /opt with some special mounting, would that be a prob?
[14:26] <pompa> Hi everyone. Can please someone assist me in trying to activate scim imput method...
[14:26] <TDJACR> penguin42: I don't think it supports ext4. I did a fsck on one of the drives, and it recovered a lot, put it put them into lost+found with no structure
[14:26] <The_Wanderer> hi guys, i want to configure my left touchpad click button to be reconfigured to act as a middle click. i tried googling it, but not much help. anyone got any pointers?
[14:26] <littlepenguin> tecna u need to do special fstab entries aso..there is a wiki..well i had to reinstall :d
[14:26] <bilalakhtar> DarkSector: I know about that. I just need to use the > character instead of |
[14:26] <DarkSector> thevishy: DOCK PREFERENCES > PATTERN ENGINE
[14:26] <user01> i dont need to mark as bootable?  didnt see that option
[14:26] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, than you, i've used that before but i'm moving to another version of ubuntu and doing a fresh install and then install all the apps that i had on my old system.
[14:27] <penguin42> TDJACR: I think it's more likely that a lot of the structure has just gone
[14:27] <zetheroo> penguin42: I recall something like this happening before and there was a way to fix it ...
[14:27] <DarkSector> bilalakhtar: great so do it
[14:27] <adac> penguin42, I get the message at boot time that "decryption" is not ready
[14:27] <adac> yet
[14:27] <TDJACR> :/
[14:27] <Aperture> Hello all
[14:27] <Phantom_Hoover> I upgraded to Lucid, and now when I try to run some games the GPU hangs and brings the X server down with it. I seem to be using an Intel Mobile 4 grahpics card.
[14:27] <penguin42> adac: You running crypted drives?
[14:27] <Tecna> littlepenguin: if it's just fstab, I can fix that from a live-CD.
[14:27] <thevishy> I dont see PATTERN ENGINE in dock preferences !
[14:27] <adac> penguin42, only encrpyted home...and I thought that would be decrypted when i do the gonme lgn?
[14:27] <littlepenguin> i have a problem with grub..i reinstalled lucid and everything went fine..my dualboot fista was found and inserted in grub boot entry
[14:27] <adac> *gnome login
[14:27] <jiohdi> so... 10.4 whats the current verdict?
[14:27] <DarkSector> thevishy: whut ? its supposed to be there
[14:28] <thevishy> its a window called AWN settins and has preferences , task manager ....applet themes advanced
[14:28] <jamieaa64> 10.04 is pretty :P
[14:28] <littlepenguin> but it does not boot..when i choose fista it just starts grub again
[14:28] <thevishy> those are the main windows !
[14:28] <littlepenguin> tecna i tried to..
[14:28] <bilalakhtar> !clone > Jenk
[14:28] <pompa> I installed ubuntu 10.04 overa previous kubuntu version leaving my home folder untouched, and I don't know if this could have caused some troubles with skim/scim
[14:28] <jiohdi> I have upgraded to 10.4 on 3 machines using lxde so far no problems
[14:28] <penguin42> adac: I don't know if it's related but in the release notes there's something saying that encrypted partitions should be listed in /etc/fstab oteherwise it might not give hte passphrase prompt; is it a luks encrypted /home or the more normal ubuntu encrypted home ?
[14:28] <WXZ> anyway to permanently mount a partition
[14:28] <WXZ> without installing extra software?
[14:28] <maurizio-b> hi all, i have ubuntu 10.04 and i have some issues with the graphics driver, i have this graphic board: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[14:28]  * TDJACR is gonna try something...
[14:28] <noir_lord> enriq, it shouldn't be the upgrade is reasonably careful not to stomp settings, I've never tried so ymmv (I generally rsync to my server and then do a nuke/install)
[14:28] <thevishy> maybe coz I am running gnome with no effects due to low CPU power n all
[14:28] <penguin42> WXZ: Just add it to /etc/fstab
[14:29] <craigbass1976> WXZ, /etc/fstab is the file you want to edit
[14:29] <Tecna> littlepenguin: you tried?  what went wrong?
[14:29] <WXZ> alright
[14:29] <Aperture> I've installled 10.04 netbook edition, and I once remember in 9.04 I could switch desktop environments. Can I still do this, and how? Also, can you do it efficiently (last time, my ubuntu crashed because of some Maximus program)?
[14:29] <DarkSector> WXZ: /etc/fstab
[14:29] <littlepenguin> tecna i could not access the partitions because they were encrypted
[14:29] <jiohdi> Aperture: you can logout and change sessions to whatever you have installed
[14:29] <noir_lord> Aperture, you just need to install the relevent meta-package for the DE you want
[14:29] <Phantom_Hoover> Anyone?
[14:29] <WXZ> sometimes ubuntu is so easy :|
[14:29] <adac> penguin42, well it is the encryption that you could choose on karmic installiation back then. But it was also that slow while using karmic. Now I'm on lucid
[14:30] <DarkSector> Phantom_Hoover: regarding games, I think you need a gpu for that
[14:30] <Aperture> noir_lord: What pakage am I installing?
[14:30] <littlepenguin> tecna ok i need to say that i used a lvm also
[14:30] <Phantom_Hoover> DarkSector: What?
[14:30] <noir_lord> Aperture, which DE do you want?
[14:30] <DarkSector> Phantom_Hoover: clearly the onboard chip isn't enough
[14:30] <penguin42> adac: You could try killing ureadahead somehow
[14:30] <Phantom_Hoover> It was fine in Karmic.
[14:30] <Aperture> Sorry to sound like such a beginner, but what is a DE?
[14:30] <Tecna> littlepenguin: Usually, I can access my LUKS partitions from a live CD.  It just prompts for the password and it goes.
[14:30] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, that command gives a list of everything that is installed in ubuntu after a fresh install + everything else after that. Is there anyway that i can get a list of all the apps installed after my install ?
[14:30] <Aperture> ah wait, nvm XD
[14:30] <jiohdi> Aperture: desktop environment
[14:30] <Tecna> littlepenguin: I don't think I'm using LVM.
[14:30] <Keithamus> Does anyone know how to force the nvidia-glx-185 drivers to be used - I can only seem to get neuveu to work and I need vdpau
[14:30] <DarkSector> Phantom_Hoover: what games are we talking about here ?
[14:30] <noir_lord> Aperture, no worries, my bad for using an acronym, do you want KDE or XFCE?
[14:30] <Tecna> littlepenguin: you had me scared.
[14:31] <littlepenguin> tecna would be nice if you get that then repaired if it fails just tell me then what you have done
[14:31] <bilalakhtar> Jenk: Sorry | can't do |ha|
[14:31] <Aperture> noir_lord: I want it so I can go from my Gnome netbook environment to the Gnome Desktop environment
[14:31] <littlepenguin> :D tecna for me it was no problem because i had backups
[14:31] <jiohdi> Aperture: just apt-get gnome and then change sessions
[14:31] <Jenk> bilalakhtar, thanx though, it helped... :)
[14:31] <Phantom_Hoover> DarkSector: Oolite, but only with shaders.
[14:32] <jiohdi> Aperture: sorry, apt-get install gnome
[14:32] <Aperture> jiohdi: Will this allow me to switch back though to my Netbook remix environment?
[14:32] <bilalakhtar> Aperture: use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:32] <jiohdi> Aperture: if there is a seperate session listing for it
[14:33] <adac> penguin42, Ok I'll try that. thx. I have to go. See you
[14:33] <Aperture> So when I log into ubuntu as my user, will the choice of what session I want to be logged into show up?
[14:33] <penguin42> Aperture: At the bottom of the login screen, once you've selected the user it gives you a menu
[14:33] <Aperture> ahhh ok, and I can just choose from there?
[14:33] <jiohdi> Aperture: mostly you cannot do it at startup unless you have to add a password, otherwise you can only do it by logout
[14:34] <noir_lord> Aperture, you should already have an option under Preferences - Switch Desktop Mode iirc
[14:34] <Tecna> bilalakhtar: Isn't ubuntu-desktop a metapackage that delivers massive bloat?
[14:34] <Phantom_Hoover> Can I point out that the problems I have were non-existent pre-Lucid.
[14:34] <jiohdi> Aperture: if you have more than one user to chose from you can do it as well
[14:34] <bilalakhtar> Techna: Yes it is
[14:34] <Stan212> I have just installed Ubuntu 10.04, is their an easy way to enable the home folder encryption?
[14:34] <Aperture> noir_lord: this switch desktop under preferences is not there. At least, not in 10.04
[14:35] <jiohdi> Aperture: its only at logout or startup under sessions
[14:35] <Insomniaque> Aperture Science Enrichment Center?
[14:35] <Aperture> jiohdi: will switching cause startup programs to conflict?
[14:35] <Casperin> I'm on a netbook (with NBR) where there's no workswitcher icon. I also cannot add it to the panel (no free room to right click and add stuff).. So how do I get to the properties of it? =/
[14:35] <Aperture> Insomniaque: yes. Yes indeed
[14:35] <jiohdi> Aperture: shouldn't
[14:36] <Insomniaque> Aperture: Yessss. Lool, I'm so addicted to Portal right now. I'm on level 19. =\
[14:36] <Phantom_Hoover> OK, does anyone have anything to offer?
[14:36] <Aperture> jiohdi: I only ask because Maximus caused the session to be destroyed
[14:36] <Stan212> :-!
[14:36] <jiohdi> Casperin: there is room, but its hard to find
[14:36] <jiohdi> Aperture: what is maximus?
[14:36] <haavaros> Does anyone know a terminal emulator that supports selecting another default charset than utf-8?
[14:36] <Aperture> insomniaqu: Beat the game tons of times, every achievment, ect. Can't wait for the second one.
[14:36] <Tecna> littlepenguin: do you think I'm covered if I just copy my grub configuration and fstab to a non-system disk?
[14:36] <alien92>  can mount any drives on ubuntu 10.04
[14:36] <Insomniaque> Please remember, the companion cube will never threaten to stab you, and in fact, does not speak. If it does, you are advised not to take it's advice.
[14:36] <Aperture> jiohdi: it enabled all windows you opened to be maximized in UNR
[14:37] <Jenk> alien92, could you explain a bit more ?
[14:37] <Casperin> jiohdi: do you know *know* this? Because usually I can find it the room (on non-NBR's).. but not this time
[14:37] <quesada_> anyone got eric IDE working on karmic?
[14:37] <jiohdi> Aperture: under non unr sessiosn it likely will not run
[14:37] <littlepenguin> teccna dunno ..well i always prefer a clean reinstall
[14:37] <haavaros> Has anyone experienced a drop in video performance in 10.04 from 9.10?
[14:37] <jiohdi> Casperin: I have found it several times with trial and error
[14:37] <[eXception]> can somebody help me debugging why my bluetooth is not working? (Messages: Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized / lsmod: bluetooth              58621  0 )
[14:37] <Casperin> on an NBR?
[14:38] <alien92> Jenk, my drives are not showing on disk utility or in places bt i can see them on gparted
[14:38] <Casperin> ehh. netbook remix
[14:38] <alien92> Jenk, its an ntfs file system
[14:38] <Aperture> jiohdi: well, it ran as a background process in UNR, but the biggest bug was when you started it up under the desktop session, and you had compiz enabled, you would have all the windows turn black and the GUI part of the OS would crash.
[14:38] <Stan212> Is it possible to enable home folder encryption post-installation (Ubuntu 10.04)
[14:38] <Jenk> alien92, try 'sudo mount -a '
[14:39] <CyL> I'm having trouble getting empathy to playback sound everytime a message is received: it would simply not work, although it is eneabled in the options... any advice?
[14:39] <jiohdi> Aperture: I do not believe it is part of other session managers like gnome or lxde or icewm or xfce
[14:39] <amabo> is there a way to set auto-join to channels in xchat? I've added to favorites but i can't find them
[14:39] <Jenk> alien92, so long as your drives aren't corrupt, you will be able to access them on ubuntu.
[14:39] <herr_karl> CyL: if you disabled sound system-wide then there is no sound in empathy
[14:39] <ragnar> penguin42: fgrlx does not support my graphics card anymore
[14:39] <Aperture> jiohdi: Ok, I'll try it out, and hopefully it'll work. What was the command again for the install?
[14:40] <jiohdi> amabo, you might like to try Konversation, it has auto join, I like it better than xchat
[14:40] <A-R-R> amabo, In 'network-list', select freenode and click 'EDIT' and put in the channels you want to autostart in 'facourites'
[14:40] <CyL> herr_karl: sound is eneabled
[14:40] <ragnar> penguin42: But the open source (default) drivers are broken
[14:40] <Jenk> alien92, any progress ?
[14:40] <alien92> Jenk, i did.its says can't find sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[14:40] <A-R-R> amabo, I mean 'favourites'
[14:40] <jiohdi> Aperture: apt-get install whateveryoulike either gnome or lxde or icewm
[14:40] <Phantom_Hoover> I'm all alone in a godless and unfriendly universe and my graphics card drivers don't work!
[14:40] <herr_karl> CyL: sorry, i meant the sound-effects. they need to be enabled in gnome
[14:40] <Jenk> alien92, do you have more than one HDD ?
[14:41] <penguin42> ragnar: Hmm you could try xorg-edgers; they have the latest build of the open source driver, but before you do that file a bug against xserver-xorg-video-ati    and then do it again if it still happens on edgers
[14:41] <s0ja> hello everyone
[14:41] <jamieaa64> I've got a gpg: conflicting commands when I type "-gpg -keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com -rec C6598A30
[14:41] <Aperture> jiohdi: I'd like Gnome desktop edition. I thought I saw someone have it labeled as sudo apt-get install Gnome desktop-edition
[14:41] <herr_karl> CyL: system->preferences->sound ... and select there sme sound theme
[14:41] <alien92> Jenk, i have 2
[14:41] <jiohdi> Aperture: if you are running a netbook or nettop I would recommend lxde
[14:41] <jamieaa64> No idea what that does but can anyone point me in a direction?
[14:41] <Sensiva> In Synaptic Completely remove = aptitude purge is this correct?
[14:41] <CyL> herr_karl: There is one selected
[14:41] <erUSUL> jamieaa64: there is no space in -gpg -keyserver is -gpg-keyserver
[14:41] <Jenk> alien92, k, how many partitions ?
[14:41] <abhifx> some help me please. synaptic is not working
[14:41] <jamieaa64> thanks
[14:41] <herr_karl> CyL: okay, this had been my problem. i cant help you then
[14:42] <jiohdi> Aperture: you have to be root to install so you can either have sudo  added to the line or you can sudo -s and password first to get a root terminal
[14:42] <Tecna> Sensiva: As far as I know, yes.
[14:42] <Narya_> Hi guys, Im trying to install Sunbird Calendar, but I can't seem to get it from the software center...is there a reason why?
[14:42] <ragnar> penguin42: ok, ill try that
[14:42] <alien92> Jenk, only one on that hard drive
[14:42] <s0ja> quick question: I have a late 2006 macbook running ubuntu 10.04. The GMA 950 driver is not working properly though, I cant watch .avi files in VLC or activate desktop effect... any ideas?
[14:42] <ragnar> penguin42: Thanks alot!
[14:42] <Aperture> jiohdi: Thanks for the help.
[14:42] <Aperture> Alright, everyone.
[14:42] <penguin42> ragnar: No problem, also there is #ubuntu-x that might help and I think there is a radeon channel somewhere
[14:42] <jiohdi> Aperture: I am glad I have learned enough to help :)
[14:42] <Jenk> alien92, there's something called ntfs-3g. umm, you have that installed, is uppose ?
[14:42] <CyL> herr_karl: thanks for your time
[14:42] <Phantom_Hoover> I agree with alise_. A bag of ferrets would be much more helpful.
[14:43] <alien92> Jenk, no
[14:43] <TDJACR>  /join #ext4
[14:43] <ragnar> penguin42: Cool, I'll check them out :)
[14:43] <TDJACR> Oops
[14:43] <CyL> I'm having trouble getting empathy to playback sound everytime a message is received: it would simply not work, although it is eneabled in the options... any advice?
[14:43] <Narya_> how do I install a tar.bz2 file?
[14:43] <Jenk> alien92,  'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g'
[14:43] <s0ja>  late 2006 macbook running ubuntu 10.04. The GMA 950 driver is not working properly - cant watch .avi files in VLC or activate desktop effects - any ideas?
[14:44] <morsing> Ok, ethtool fixed what mii-tool couldn't
[14:44] <alien92> Jenk, i did.no change
[14:44] <Narya> anyone?
[14:44] <natrixnatrix89> when I run lucid, while booting it always says error mounting /proc/bus/usb/ and suggests me to mount it manually or to skip. what's the matter?
[14:45] <amabo> wow - Konversation is better :)
[14:45] <Jenk> alien92, try 'sudo mount -a' again..
[14:45] <AlienDK> Konversation sucks
[14:45] <Narya> amabo: than?
[14:45] <amabo> AlienDK: :( compared to xchat i like it more
[14:45] <Narya> it's better than the telegraph I guess
[14:45] <penguin42> natrixnatrix89: I think it will be a left over from an old package that used to mount /proc/bus/usb - remvoe the line from /etc/fstab
[14:45] <Narya> how....nevermind
[14:45] <Narya> to each his own
[14:45] <AlienDK> amabo: Well, xchat sucks too.
[14:45] <erUSUL> Narya: what are you trying to install ?
[14:45] <Narya> Sunbird
[14:45] <amabo> AlienDK: and you use?
[14:46] <natrixnatrix89> penguin42: thanks!
[14:46] <Jenk> alien92, also, see if installing 'NTFS Configuration Editor' helps...
[14:46] <AlienDK> amabo: Xchat on my ubuntu box, mIRC on my winbox
[14:46] <TheShadow> we
[14:46] <alien92> Jenk, Still the same error
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> s0ja: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/568779
[14:46] <erUSUL> Narya: a tar.bz2 is like a zip file. how to install it depends on what is inside
[14:46] <s0ja> gma 950 on ubuntu 10.04 anyone!? :(
[14:46] <scunizi> amabo: irssi
[14:46] <Narya> ah
[14:46] <TheShadow> Bellisima la nuova versione ubuntu,
[14:46] <Narya> let's take a look-see then
[14:46] <AlienDK> irssi is good too
[14:46] <Narya> sec
[14:46] <sergio> alguien sabe que es el composite?
[14:46] <s0ja> ActionParsnip: Cheers!
[14:46] <jamieaa64> erUSUL: That doesn't work either, it says -gpg-keyserver: command not found
[14:46] <TheShadow> good ubuntu 10.04
[14:46] <Jenk> alien92, it isn't corrupted, is it ?
[14:46] <erUSUL> Narya: probably just decompressing it in you home folder is enough to install it for your user
[14:46] <alien92> no.it works on windows
[14:47] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[14:47] <TheShadow> Hello i am TheShadow ):
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> AlienDK: hydrairc on windows here, i dont wanna pay for an irc client, pidgin on my lappy
[14:47] <alien92> Jenk, no.it works on windows
[14:47] <Narya> erUSUL: I see...well I'd LIKE to install it globally, even though I am the only user
[14:47] <abhifx> can someone help me? synaptic is not working. please
[14:47] <erUSUL> jamieaa64: is that what you want to do ?
[14:47] <aleanto> hi
[14:47] <aleanto> !addon
[14:47] <Jenk> alien92, you can read ntfs partitions on linux...
[14:47] <aleanto> !command
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> abhifx: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    use http://pastebin.com to give the output
[14:48] <erUSUL> Narya: then using sudo to uncompress it in /opt/ should be the cleaner option
[14:48] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: Pidgin is a horrible IRC client, seriously.
[14:48] <Narya> ok, thanks erUSUL
[14:48] <pompa> please explain me how to remove the previous skin config file to fit the new scim input method
[14:48] <Jenk> alien92, your sure it's ntfs only right ?
[14:48] <jamieaa64> erUSUL: Ok I found out that if I typed the same thing with two - it worked I think
[14:48] <Narya> and just so I can make sure, the command I use is
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> AlienDK: its working now isnt it?
[14:48] <Narya> sudo tar -xf file location
[14:48] <Narya> right?
[14:48] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: Whats working?
[14:48] <alien92> Jenk, yes.its says dat on windows and gparted
[14:48] <jamieaa64> erUSUL: I'm trying to follow http://gadgetmix.com/index/sony-vaio-p-ubuntu-9-04s-problems-and-how-to-solve-them/
[14:48] <shashi859> abhifx :try sudo synaptic from terinal
[14:48] <abhifx> ActionParsnip, it tell me to type a command. here is the pastebin when i do it http://pastebin.com/2efK858T
[14:48] <datroubler1> is here a supporter who could perhaps help me in an prvate chat session?
[14:48] <jamieaa64> erUSUL: but for 10.04
[14:48] <amabo> where is the httpd.conf file located for localhost?
[14:48] <erUSUL> Narya: tar xf file.tar.bz2 -C /opt/
[14:49] <Jenk> okay, using gparted have you tried mounting it ?
[14:49] <alien92> Jenk, also it was mounting previously on ubuntu 9.10
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> AlienDK: pidgin, you can see the text I am typing to you?
[14:49] <erUSUL> jamieaa64: ok
[14:49] <Narya> xf not -xf?
[14:49] <latenal> hello guys, after upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 wifi switcher (the one that i have at my hp pavilion dv6000) don't work any more: it toggles bluetooth only but it used to toggle both wifi and bluetooth. Moreover the led light indicates "ON" all the time.  I can turn wifi on and off by means of network manager.
[14:49] <CyL> Hi, I have accidentally disable menu bar in gnome-terminal, how do I get it back?
[14:49] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: Yes, but IMO its not a very good client.
[14:49] <erUSUL> Narya: tar accpets both forms...
[14:49] <Narya> USUL: sorry, used to it only accepting the minus ones
[14:49] <erUSUL> CyL: right clieck on a panel choose add to panel. add the menu
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> AlienDK: well it sends and receives text from / to users so is perfect
[14:49] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: But taste can of course not be discussed :)
[14:49] <Jenk> alien92, by any chance, have you changed/edited your partition table ?
[14:50] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: True
[14:50] <minimec> datroubler1: It's loke saying... 'may I f**k you, whitout saying how... ;)
[14:50] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: But its not perfect :P
[14:50] <abhifx> shashi859, same error
[14:50] <sergio> what is the composite? i dont undestand it.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> AlienDK: no client is
[14:50] <alien92> Jenk, not after installing ubuntu 9.10
[14:50] <CyL> erUSUL: thanks
[14:50] <AlienDK> ActionParsnip: Also true.
[14:51] <minimec> !ask > datroubler1
[14:51] <abhifx> shashi859, i have the pastebin for the output. can you make something out of it?http://pastebin.com/2efK858T
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> abhifx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/520004
[14:51] <Pirate_Hunter> trying to install iftop and it is seen as untrusted, hasn't it been shipped to lucid?
[14:51] <Tecna> CyL: try hitting alt+f2 and executing the command gnome-panel
[14:51] <Jenk> alien92, It's strange... could you try re-installing grub ?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:52] <CyL> Tecna: thanks for your time, but erUSUL's advice already made it work
[14:52] <Tecna> CyL: NVM I misread
[14:52] <alien92> Jenk, ok il try
[14:52] <babamelone> Hi, after having upgraded to Lucid Lynx, I am unable to install the Flash plugin for Firefox anymore by using the ubuntu package manager and not installing it manually. I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer, but none of them offers the file (dpkg -L) libflashplugin.so. How is Flash to be installed under Lucid?
[14:52] <datroubler1> minimec i already did it several times but everybody ignroed me
[14:52] <Jenk> alien92, like install it on both the HDD and try booting both
[14:52] <datroubler1> i can't install the fglrx driver
[14:52] <zagabar> if I was running a program from ssh on my server and I lost conenction, how can I reattach to that process when reconnecting later? I still see it in ps aux.
[14:52] <Narya> erUSUL: ok, it's there. how would I add it to my Applications tab?
[14:52] <zagabar> I didn't run it in screen
[14:53] <minimec> datroubler1: It's ok. They may not have a solution or are occupied. It's a lot of work these last days... ;)
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: can you use: http://pastebin.com    to give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[14:53] <Jenk> alien92, or try sudo update-grub
[14:53] <abhifx> ActionParsnip, so this cant be solved then?
, i run the deb package at adobe.com. it worked for me
[14:53] <erUSUL> Narya: i would make a link to the executable in /usr/local/bin/ then just add a launcher/edit menu
[14:53] <acicula> Pirate_Hunter, the gpg verification fails?
[14:53] <zetheroo> Flash vids playing in FF freeze up in fullscreen
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> abhifx: its a known bug, keep watching
[14:53] <datroubler1> minimec ok no problem but i think my problem is not a known bug
[14:53] <shashi859> abhifx ,,try there are suggestions in launchpad try them
[14:53] <Narya> ok, thank you
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: pause the vid, fullscreen, then resume plalyback
[14:54] <alien92> Jenk, im just going to reinstall ubuntu.thanks for your help
[14:54] <abhifx> shashi859, ActionParsnip thank you guys. you helped me a lot
[14:54] <Jenk> alien92, whoa ?? wait !
[14:54] <administrator__> ?
[14:54] <erUSUL> Narya: supposing that the executable is "/opt/songbird_something/songbird" « sudo ln -s /opt/songbird_something/songbird/ /usr/local/bin/songbird »
[14:54] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: tried that ... only get sound ... video remains frozen
[14:54] <erUSUL> Narya: supposing that the executable is "/opt/songbird_something/songbird" run « sudo ln -s /opt/songbird_something/songbird/ /usr/local/bin/songbird »
[14:54] <Narya> erUSUL: you read my mind. Thank you
[14:54] <minimec> datroubler1: ok. First. open gnome-terminal and type lspci | grep VGA in it. Poste the results on paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: tried other browsers?
[14:55] <babamelone> grepping for swf lists nothing, for gnash I get gnash-common and mozilla-plugin-gnash, and for flash I receive flashplugin-installer and nonfree
[14:55] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I'll try Chrome
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: can you run the whole command and give a pastebin of the whole output
[14:55] <babamelone> k
[14:55] <fedora_bound> I'm keen to change distros but I'm currently in the midst of 3 +20gig bittorrents is there anyway to restart them in the new install without having to start again from scratch??
[14:55] <Pirate_Hunter> acicula, nope just says it is untrusted nothing about it failing and asks if I will still allow it which is weird because iftop has always been in the ubuntu rep...
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: its all one command, you dont have to manually break it up
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: if chromium is better then its a firefox bug
[14:56] <datroubler1> minimec http://paste.ubuntu.com/426439/ this problem occurs since 10.4
[14:56] <babamelone> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/1CZsaPmh
[14:56] <Tecna> fedora_bound: I've done this before.  If you're switching away from ubuntu, let's PM instead, since this channel is not for fedora
[14:56] <geekphreak> hi all
[14:56] <jamieaa64> Hi I'm trying to install a graphics card driver on my laptop using this URL, running into problems can anyone help me?
[14:56] <jamieaa64> http://gadgetmix.com/index/sony-vaio-p-ubuntu-9-04s-problems-and-how-to-solve-them/
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: ok thats better. lets get you cleaned up
[14:57] <jamieaa64> Also would this work on 10.04 or have the commands changed?
[14:57] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64: whats the graphics card? ATI?
[14:57] <fedora_bound> Tecna: don't know if I cann I'm using an unconfigured copy of irssi atm
[14:57] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: I think it is Intel GMA 500
[14:57] <acicula> Pirate_Hunter, how are universe packages signed, by the maintainer key or the repo key itself?
[14:57] <artisan> hmmmm: CAnnot set policy, Rule unchanged ("CPU too hot") ... whats that supposed to mean??
[14:57] <minimec> datroubler1: OK. THX IN fact your card can use the fglrx driver, but the installation failed. Open Synaptics the package manager in system administration
[14:57] <HollowPoint> then the graphics card should be auto installed in the kernel
[14:57] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: works perfect in chromium
[14:57] <Pirate_Hunter> acicula, not sure?
[14:57] <HollowPoint> Intel are one company that are really working with Linux to produce drivers.
[14:58] <rdz> hi all. when booting from 10.04 CD, the terminal has the native resolution of the screen of my laptop. however after upgrading from 9.10, the terminal still has the old ugly 640x480. how can i change that?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: sudo dpkg - P gnash-common mozilla-plugin-gnash; sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:58] <fedora_bound> Tecna: I'm getting you in middle of #ubuntu channel
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: copy it ALL as ONE command
[14:58] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: Its running pretty slowly though and I've read lots of things (like that URL) that say its not that great until you install this particular driver
[14:58] <artisan> since when is the cpufeqd looking for cpu temperature? wtf?!
[14:58] <Tecna> fedora_bound: then try joining #fedora_bound2tecna
[14:58] <latenal> after upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 wifi switcher (the one that i have at my hp pavilion dv6000) doesn't work anymore: it toggles bluetooth only but it used to toggle both wifi and bluetooth. Moreover the led light indicates "ON" all the time.  I can turn wifi on and off by means of network manager.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: it will remove and clean up your flash mess and make it ok
[14:58] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64: whats the spec of the laptop?
[14:58] <Narya> erUSUL: Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/bin/songbird" (No such file or directory)
[14:58] <datroubler1> minimec yes its opened
[14:58] <minimec> datroubler1: at the left side you have a column with an entry like 'brokeen packages'
[14:58] <BluesKaj> fedora_bound, sorry , your question is confusing ,...are you dl-ing the torrents or installing the OS?
[14:59] <datroubler1> minimec yes but its empty
[14:59] <babamelone> ActionParsnip: What is the problem?
[14:59] <minimec> datroubler1:ok
[14:59] <datroubler1> minimec at the moment i am using the open source driver
[14:59] <minimec> datroubler1: reload the sources
[14:59] <datroubler1> ok
[14:59] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: Its a 1.6ghz intel atom 2gb RAM Sony Vaio P
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: you have too many flash packages installed as well as some residual gnash stuff
[14:59] <datroubler1> minimec reloaded ;)
[14:59] <amabo> i'm using twin screens but can only control the brightness of one - does anyone know how to help? i have the nvidia x server settings panel
[14:59] <artisan> now it is 'CAnnot set policy, Rule unchanged ("none") .. cpufreqd cant do anything, because of nothing ??
[14:59] <erUSUL> Narya: you mad the link allright? checked the actual name of the directory and binary file ? /opt/songbird_something/songbird <<< i made this up
[14:59] <HollowPoint> k just reading the thread now jamieaa64
[14:59] <minimec> datroubler1: try to update (there should be no update)
[14:59] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: Its running slow, (When scrolling in firefox) in a similar way to if you installed windows and didn't install thelatest drivers
[15:00] <erUSUL> Narya: you shoud find out how it is actually called
[15:00] <diddy> Hi
[15:00] <Narya> erUSUL: yeah, Im pretty sure I did it right, but I might have missed it the second time let me look
[15:00] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: Thanks, I think I'm stuck at the gpg commands. But I don't know if that repository is good for 10.04 (Because it says jaunty)
[15:00] <datroubler1> minimec yes no updates
[15:00] <diddy> Is there a way to watch youtube videos with vlc or other movie program?
[15:00] <acicula> Pirate_Hunter, try another mirror and see if it still fails the verification?
[15:00] <acr0nym> diddy, check minitube
[15:00] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64:  you'll need to change the repo to say lucid instead of jaunty
[15:00] <acr0nym> works great :)
[15:00] <scunizi> babamelone: you can only have one flash package installed at a time.. ActionParsnip 's got it right
[15:00] <Narya> sudo ln -s /opt/songbird/songbird-bin/ /usr/local/bin/songbird
[15:00] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: Thanks I'll try that
[15:00] <minimec> datroubler1: So the package system is ok, not as the window message stated. ;)
[15:00] <erUSUL> Narya: output of "ls -l  /usr/local/bin/songbird"
[15:01] <babamelone> f*** flash
[15:01] <erUSUL> Narya: drop the / at the end of /opt/songbird/songbird-bin
[15:01] <scunizi> jamieaa64: don't
[15:01] <datroubler1> minimec this only occirs i i have installed fglrx
[15:01] <minimec> datroubler1: Now I guess you want to activate the fglrx driver.
[15:01] <scunizi> ~upgrade | jamieaa64
[15:01] <datroubler1> minimec jes but this doesn't work
[15:01] <jamieaa64> sunizi: What do you mean?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Narya: you need to remove the / from songbird-bin ;)
[15:01] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64: np mate, let me know if it doesn't work
[15:01] <DDAZZA> When I put in a DVD I get a popup asking me what I want to do. I accentually click always perform this action. How can I undo it?
[15:01] <datroubler1> minimec i tried it foten but you can see the result in the thread
[15:01] <Narya> /usr/local/bin/songbird -> /opt/songbird/songbird-bin/
[15:01] <Narya> ah ok
[15:02] <minimec> datroubler1: So if you have the fglrx package installed, you get his error? O rif yu want to install it.
[15:02] <Pirate_Hunter> acicula, never mind i accepted will look into the issue once I get the network setup
[15:02] <babamelone> ActionParsnip: thx a lot
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> babamelone: all better?
[15:02] <felon> how do i format a flashdrive to fat32 in ubuntu.
[15:02] <Narya> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/local/bin/songbird': File exists
[15:02] <scunizi> jamieaa64: if you're on jaunty then by changing the repos to lucid you'll break your system.. follow the normal upgrade path.. Jaunty to Karmac to Lucid using the upgrade manager
[15:02] <Narya> that's a good message right?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> felon: gksudo gparted     do it there
[15:03] <HollowPoint> scunizi: he isn't, he's on lucid
[15:03] <datroubler1> minimec i descriped it in the thread ;) if i try to intsall it: http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=activatedriverc589.png
[15:03] <felon> thx
[15:03] <Zuka> i've got a problem. i got ubuntu to bring up a "Searching for drivers" dialog that eventually asked me if i wanted to install the very driver i've been looking for... but when i tried to install it, it told me i'm not allowed to do that. how can i sudo this or something so that i can?
[15:03] <datroubler1> and after this try http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=errora901.png
[15:03] <Zuka> :O never mind.
[15:03] <erUSUL> Narya: remove it and make it again just to make sure the link is not stalle
[15:03] <jamieaa64> sunizi: I haven't installed anything yet apart from lucid
[15:03] <erUSUL> !who | Narya
[15:03] <Zuka> :D! karmic koala got the drivers.
[15:03] <The_Wanderer> hi guys, i want to configure my left touchpad click button to be reconfigured to act as a middle click. i tried googling it, but not much help. anyone got any pointers?
[15:03] <erUSUL> !tab | Narya
[15:03] <scunizi> HollowPoint: jamieaa64 is on lucid and has jaunty repos listed? or did I miss something else entirely?
[15:03] <HollowPoint> scunizi: he's following a how to which was made for jaunty
[15:04] <Ge5i> erusul hi
[15:04] <jamieaa64> Sunizi so I haven't installed any drivers or anything to upgrade. I have a clean install of 10.04 netbook remix and I'm working through this link: http://gadgetmix.com/index/sony-vaio-p-ubuntu-9-04s-problems-and-how-to-solve-them/
[15:04] <Narya> erUSUL: apologies, I'll be sure to direct my responses
[15:04] <HollowPoint> scunizi: the how to should still work fine on lucid, but he'll need to change the name in the repos
[15:04] <erUSUL> Ge5i: hi
[15:04] <ombra> anyone knows what is an extension of an ideal in a ring?
[15:04] <ombra> ops
[15:04] <ombra> is not math
[15:04] <erUSUL> Narya: well it is in your own interest; i have the memory span of a tank fish. 2 seconds and i forget about you XD
[15:04] <jamieaa64> Hollowpoint: Step 4 says "gpg: conflicting commands"
[15:04] <frxstrem> is there a way to display all the packages currently installed on the Ubuntu system? preferrably in the terminal
[15:04] <scunizi> HollowPoint: now that makes more sense.. and clears up my confusion
[15:05] <geekphre1k> hi erUSUL bud
[15:05] <minimec> datroubler1: See that now. (Lot's of open windows here) That looks rather as a package problem of the fglrx driver and not a problem related to your computer.
[15:05] <geekphre1k> hmm
[15:05] <erUSUL> frxstrem: aptitude search ~i
[15:05] <jiohdi> frxstrem: aptitude
[15:05] <jamieaa64> scunizi: Thanks for the concern :)
[15:05] <Narya> erUSUL: how do I delete a link, as ls -l  /usr/local/bin/songbird gives /usr/local/bin/songbird -> /opt/songbird/songbird-bin/ still
[15:05] <frxstrem> erUSUL, jiohdi: thanks :)
[15:05]  * jadakren laughs at songbird.
[15:05] <scunizi> jamieaa64: :)
[15:05] <erUSUL> Narya: a link is like a file just rm it « sudo rm /usr/local/bin/songbird »
[15:05] <minimec> datroubler1: You see it's rather ubuntu package specific.
[15:05] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64: that;s the error you get when you paste the command in?
[15:05] <datroubler1> minimec and how can i fix it?
[15:05] <jamieaa64> when i tyope it
[15:06] <jamieaa64> I'll try pasting
[15:06] <HollowPoint> ok
[15:06] <jadakren> Narya, you want to delete the symlink or the file it links to ?
[15:06] <frxstrem> erUSUL, jiohdi: what if aptitude isn't installed (I'm working on a *VERRY* basic installation of Ubuntu)
[15:06] <geekphreak> ok better now
[15:06] <erUSUL> frxstrem: dpkg -l
[15:06] <geekphreak> phew
[15:06] <Narya> erUSUL: ok that makes sense
[15:06] <jiohdi> frxstrem: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:06] <geekphreak> erUSUL: hello
[15:06] <Narya> jadakren: the symlink
[15:06] <erUSUL> geekphreak: hi
[15:06] <minimec> datroubler1: That's a good question. I mean it is a popular package and no one else here complains... Are all your sources up to date?
[15:07] <jadakren> Narya, also : deleting a symlink will not affect the file it links to.
[15:07] <frxstrem> erUSUL: okay, thanks :)
[15:07] <jamieaa64> Hollowpoint: When I paste I get gpg [Option] [filename] I'm going to try working through to step 5 if that is ok?
[15:07] <Dav|d> jamieaa64, make sure you know what you're about to rm...type man rm in a terminal... rm -rf filename means
[15:07] <Narya> jadakren: ok, so it's like deleting a shortcut on windows
[15:07] <jimbob> why don't we all leave our houses
[15:07] <Narya> erUSUL: success! /usr/local/bin/songbird -> /opt/songbird/songbird-bin
[15:07] <Dav|d> no do-overs
[15:07] <HollowPoint> if you're not managing to get through step 4 you're goin to get problems later
[15:07] <crow_> how do I move the close/minimize/maximize buttons to the right angle of the screen?
[15:08] <crow_> it's on the left by default on the newest ubuntu
[15:08] <Narya> !controls crow_
[15:08] <Dav|d> crow, google it
[15:08] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64: step 4 and 5 are importing the appropriate gpg keys to authenticate with the respositories, it may be that since Lucid is only JUST released, those repos may not exist yet
[15:08] <erUSUL> Narya: ok;
[15:08] <Drecondius> Can someone help me please, I have lost the use of 3d acceleration.
[15:08] <wazzaaaaa> hello all , just downloaded a ubuntu 10.0 alternate cd iso and burnt it to a cd , but 9.04 isnt autodetecting a new version ?
[15:08] <Narya> crap, can't remember the command hold on
[15:08] <jamieaa64> Hollowpoint: Yeah I was thinking that was a possibility, is there any way I can find out if they exit?
[15:08] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64: have you tried searching a little harder for a how-to for Lucid instead? You may find it by searching for the chipset rather than the laptop model
[15:08] <jamieaa64> exsist
[15:08] <datroubler1> minimec how can i check if my sources are up to date?
[15:09] <Drecondius> sudo update-manager
[15:09] <wazzaaaaa> any help?
[15:09] <jamieaa64> HollowPoint: I have and haven't found much, I'll take a look now (but cause lucid is so new there isn't much)
[15:09] <erUSUL> wazzaaaaa: you want to use the alternatecd to upgrade ?
[15:09] <Snausages> Hi, I just updated my netbook from 9.1 to 10.04.  My display is alternating between a slide of purple desktop artwork and a file manager window about once per second.
[15:09] <erUSUL> wazzaaaaa: there is a script in the cd you can launch to proceed with the upgrade
[15:09] <erUSUL> !upgrade | wazzaaaaa
[15:09] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64:  here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1330751
[15:09] <Esteban> hello
[15:10] <Narya> crow_: http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/move-buttons-to-right-side
[15:10] <HollowPoint> jamieaa64:  hmmmmmmmmm doesn't actually fix the problem though
[15:10] <jamieaa64> Hollowpoint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/
[15:10] <HollowPoint> looks like others are having problems though
[15:10] <minimec> datroubler1: you can check the file /etc/apt/sources.list for basic ubuntu sources. there maybe some sources in the subfolders of /etc/apt if you added something
[15:10] <jamieaa64> Hollowpoint: That suggests I'm not going to find anything?
[15:10] <Esteban> can anyone help me set my monitor resolution???
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !controls | narya crow_
[15:11] <Narya> ah. I had the right command just forgot the pipe
[15:11] <Narya> erUSUL: still having the same error come up when I try to launch Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/local/bin/songbird/songbird-bin" (No such file or directory)
[15:11] <HollowPoint> I would say you may well have problems for the next few days/weeks until someone writes something (Be it a driver or just a how-to) but as always with Linux and especially Ubuntu, someone will, soon enough.
[15:12] <A-R-R> What was the name of that new application which integrates ubuntu classroom sessions?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Esteban: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:12] <Esteban> let me check
[15:12] <geekphreak> what was the command to reset x?
[15:12] <Esteban> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 A-LE] (rev a1)
[15:12] <bric_> hii could anyone please help me with gwibber
[15:12] <jamieaa64> Hollowpoint: Ok thanks I might try ubuntu 9.10 for a while then, is it easy to upgrade to a new version of ubuntu once you've installed things?>
[15:12] <Esteban> and this is for xrandr
[15:12] <Narya> erUSUL: could I just make a link directly to the executable in /opt/ ?
[15:12] <HollowPoint> maybe run 9.10 Karmic for a week or so, then keep your eye on that page and keep googling until you find something released, then upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04
[15:12] <rq1345> Is there a problem with Ubuntu One ATM? It hasn't synced here for days
[15:12] <Esteban> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 640 x 480, maximum 1024 x 768
[15:12] <Esteban> default connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[15:12] <Esteban>    640x480        50.0*
[15:12] <Esteban>    320x240        51.0
[15:12] <Esteban>    1024x768       50.0
[15:12] <FloodBot4> Esteban: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Esteban: there is an app in system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[15:13] <jiohdi> jamieaa64: the update manager gives you the option to upgrade
[15:13] <bric_> Hii all, Just did a fresh install of lucid lynxx on my system. Howver  the problem is here, while I am able to add my twitter accounts etc in  gwibber, (through the memenu and even gwibber itself), it actually does  not show any messages , in there. I have refreshed the gwibber app  umpteen times but still no, gwibber does not show any  mesages....although when i tried with live cd everything was working  properly.. thanks
[15:13] <Esteban> ActionParsnip: I did update my drivers
[15:13] <HollowPoint> I've just upgraded this laptop I'm using from 9.10 to 10.04, and my wireless card isn't supported standard on either release, I have to compile it from scratch onj both releases