[04:51] <juhan> simulations
[04:51] <Azertyuuu> because i'll go to highscool next year to become Industrial Engineer
[04:52] <andre> what site do you goto
[04:52] <kridunink> _jason: yes, about 5 days no
[04:52] <Remenic> what do I do with the "The following packages have been kept back" list of packages? Why does it keep showing that everytime I install something?
[04:52] <snowblink> !tell andre about w32codecs
[04:52] <kridunink> _jason: *now, sorry
[04:52] <andre> ok
[04:52] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[04:52] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[04:52] <Healot> kridunink: , manual/documentations are really good for starters...   Also the rute manual is good if you want to understand linux in general (the bot will send you a link)
[04:52] <incorrect> hi, i noticed that there is a 'server' build of ubuntu, does that just mean different set of default packages?
[04:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell kridunink about rute
[04:52] <juhan> Azertyuuu: but i also do a bit of web developing
[04:53] <idefix> intelikey?
[04:53] <juhan> Azertyuuu: why? wondering if linux is any use?
[04:53] <nickrud> andre: using alien is a last ditch effort: I've had to do that only one or two times in 5 years
[04:53] <idefix> _jason
[04:53] <idefix> is there a way to leave messages?
[04:53] <kridunink> healot: thanks for the info, what i was planning to do
[04:53] <idefix> like in KGS
[04:53] <idefix> ?
[04:53] <rob138> how can i change the priveledges of a mounted device (specifically an ipod), because amarok says access is denied when i try to write to it, and i assume its because the owner rights
[04:53] <kridunink> _jason: thanks alot for the info
[04:54] <_jason> idefix: not sure what KGS is
[04:54] <Azertyuuu> juhan,  yes ! asking myself if anyone makes money by using linux
[04:54] <idefix> _jason kiseido go server
[04:54] <juhan> Azertyuuu: it is an important tool for science
[04:54] <juhan> Azertyuuu: and other areas
[04:54] <Azertyuuu> juhan, is it especially for programming ?
[04:54] <snowblink> Azertyuuu, search a job site for linux. It may give you an idea of what the market is like...
[04:54] <idefix> _jason in KGS you can leave messages to people, they see them the next time they log on
[04:55] <juhan> Azertyuuu: so it would be good for your career to learn a bit
[04:55] <CanadianSnow> ok, so how do i run wine?
[04:55] <_jason> idefix: yes there is way, but I don't know how since I never tried :)
[04:55] <snowblink> Azertyuuu, there is certainly a market for linux skills.
[04:55] <sig> CanadianSnow: man wine
[04:55] <Azertyuuu> juhan,  no, i will become an Industrial Engineer , master Of Science
[04:55] <sig> wine --help
[04:55] <andre> were do i download daper drake
[04:55] <CanadianSnow> from ubuntu, i installed some thing that said it was the newer version, but i cant find it
[04:55] <idefix> _jason, I think the cable was loosly plugged or something, I removed it, found out I could turn it the other way around (since there's some small object on one side), but now the CD and DVD work again
[04:55] <snowblink> !tell andre about dapper
[04:56] <CanadianSnow> and when i type wine in the terminal it tells me invaild command
[04:56] <_jason> idefix: great
[04:56] <juhan> Azertyuuu: there ia  lot of modelling done using linux in engineering
[04:56] <sig> you have to run it with some strigs...
[04:56] <sig> man wine
[04:56] <CanadianSnow> "man wine" ?
[04:56] <sig> open a terminal
[04:56] <sig> and type: man wine
[04:57] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: wine file.exe
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> No manual entry for wine
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> oh...
[04:57] <mod^> http://www.kossan.se/hamster_i_hjul.htm
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> !wine
[04:57] <Healot> Svenska?
[04:57] <mod^> huh?
[04:57] <katz0r> hi, do you guys know how to install oss2jack on dapper?
[04:57] <redguy> !se
[04:58] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu.se resp. #kubuntu.se
[04:58] <jessy_> vandoeur libraire
[04:58] <redguy> katz0r: ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 (it's in the topic actually)
[04:59] <katz0r> ql thx
[05:00] <shortlinggs> does ubuntu server only create up to 4 partition as primary? how can i create many partitions?
[05:01] <redguy> shortlinggs: hmm, there can be only 4 primary partitions, this is not ubuntu's limitation
[05:01] <r4zz> you can make logical volumes
[05:01] <babo_> with skype you can use the protocol to do something like <a href="skype:65465466?call"> to make a one click phone call to a landline (or so I believe)... I'm running wengo because skype haven't bothered to make a working system for AMD64 linux ....  can I do the same thing with SIP .... and how ?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> why cant i open that darn file :(
[05:02] <shortlinggs> ah so 4 primary partitions and then the rest partitions will be logical , is that right?
[05:02] <juhan> shortlinggs: the logical go inside the primary
[05:03] <r4zz> you can't have more than four partitions, you have to get rid of one
[05:03] <redguy> shortlinggs: no, you can have up to 3 primary partitions, the 4th would be an extended partition which could hold up to 15 (not sure on that number) logical partitions
[05:03] <r4zz> then make one and put logical partitions in there
[05:03] <nickrud> gnomefreak: which one?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> the icon one :(
[05:03] <Spde> is there any tool program to mount a samba filesystem in ubuntu?
[05:03] <redguy> shortlinggs: or set up lvm, this is far more flexible
[05:03] <_jason> gnomefreak: use gimp to open it
[05:04] <gnomefreak> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png   this one
[05:04] <Jhair> Spde: smbmount
[05:04] <AndiM> Spde: try smb4k or konqueror smb:/
[05:04] <yaaar> word
[05:04] <shortlinggs> redguy all lvm for many partitions will that be ok?
[05:04] <nickrud> gnomefreak: eog /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png worked here
[05:04] <redguy> Spde: if you want to mount samba shares you might want to install cifs
[05:04] <redguy> !lvm
[05:04] <ubotu> from memory, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:05] <alex_azz> I have a k8 I have to use ubuntu for 64 bit ?
[05:05] <AndiM> alex_azz: you *CAN* use 64bit ubuntu
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ok its open to the ubuntu logo how do i change it now :(
[05:05] <GosuCJ> can I install a duel boot of windows AFTER I install ubuntu?
[05:05] <AndiM> alex_azz: be happy, since I cannot. but Wine will be an issue with 64bit ubuntu.
[05:05] <KakiPukul> on a 64-bit CPU
[05:05] <nickrud> gnomefreak: just cp <desiredicon> /usr/share/icons ...
[05:05] <alex_azz> AndiM: and it works good?
[05:06] <Spde> Jhair: you know how a command to mount a filesystem can look like? say <IP_ADDRESS> user spde?
[05:06] <alex_azz> ok
[05:06] <AndiM> alex_azz: it should work quite well, given that Linux had AMD64 support I think 4 years ago already.
[05:06] <gnomefreak> nickrud: its in the same folder as the ubuntu logo just a differetn icon
[05:07] <alex_azz> AndiM: thanks I will try
[05:07] <elyxi> what apps do i need to unpack rar files?
[05:08] <nickrud> gnomefreak: different name? you just need to have the icon you want in that dir named as distributor-logo.png, iirc.
[05:08] <gnomefreak> so just rename it?
[05:08] <nickrud> gnomefreak: yeah, as long as it's already a png image
[05:08] <Jhair> Spde: something like smbmount //machine/share /mnt/mountpoint
[05:08] <Spde> Jhair: thanks, is machine the ip?
[05:09] <Jhair> Spde: yes can be the IP
[05:09] <Spde> Jhair: will it ask for user and password (encrypted)?
[05:10] <nickrud> elyxi: unrar
[05:10] <Jhair> Spde: take a look to the smbmount manpage, you can give the username and password as options in the command line (ok, to give the password in the command line is dangerous, of course)
[05:11] <Spde> Jhair, ok i will, thanks
[05:13] <katarot> can someone tell how to move to files
[05:13] <nickrud> gnomefreak: that is so evil, having that logo on my panel :)
[05:13] <FunnyLookinHat> katarot, in Gnome?  or in the console?
[05:14] <juhan> katarot: mv "file" "location"
[05:14] <katarot> thanks
[05:14] <gnomefreak> i cant change it at all :( is there a config file that i can just take the one thats in there and replace it with name of new one?
[05:14] <nickrud> gnomefreak: did you killall gnome-panel so the config was reread?
[05:15] <existance> How do I measure the memory usage of a program.
[05:15] <gnomefreak> nickrud: yes
[05:15] <gnomefreak> still the ugly orange and white icon
[05:16] <sks> Where are the defaults like "HOME", "SHELL" etc stored in Ubuntu ? It is usuallt /etc/default/useradd in most distros. But that file is not present on my machine but "useradd -D" is able to show the values. So, where are these values coming from ?
[05:16] <Jhair> existance: pmap
[05:16] <nickrud> gnomefreak: I just mv'd the orginal distributor-log to my home, cp'd xfce's to distributor-logo.png , and restarted the panel
[05:16] <existance> Jhair, err, what if the program only take like half a second to execute?
[05:16] <wvelez> hi...how can i tell what version of XFree86 I am running? thanks
[05:17] <gnomefreak> nickrud: mine are in same folder can i do that with the path names of both?
[05:18] <Shadowline> wvelez: your running breezy ? if so your using xorg, not xfree
[05:18] <Pygi> Seveas: wake up ^^
[05:18] <helfrez> ok so whos gonna be the first to install ubuntu on their mactel box lol
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> I have just formated /dev/sda to three partitions (and mounted, ext3) ... how can I set write privelegies to myself?
[05:18] <golanz> hi there! I'm looking for a particular software in ubuntu, able to generate random text from some keywords... any hints?
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> --> sda1 sda5 sda6
[05:18] <nickrud> gnomefreak: mine were also, you're just renaming a file
[05:19] <existance> How would I measure the memory usage of a program that takes a short time to execute?
[05:19] <incorrect> is there a web based searchable package db?
[05:19] <wvelez> shadownline: im running breezy
[05:19] <Pygi> incorrect: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:19] <incorrect> i just want to find versions etc
[05:19] <novem> can anyone tell me how to change my keyring pass in gnome?
[05:19] <AndiM> existance: memusage <program>
[05:19] <incorrect> thank you
[05:19] <wvelez> shadownline: how can i determine that version?
[05:19] <shavvn> someone please help mr get rid of the brown, the themes in gnome and xfce don't change - it's brown forever!!!
[05:19] <Shadowline> wvelez: ok, then your running xorg, not xfree
[05:19] <juhan> golanz: there was an article on the papers a while back about two guys doing that for a conference... not sure how they did it though
[05:20] <paganini> Hi everyone; I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone might know the answer to.
[05:20] <nickrud> cd /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps && sudo mv distributor-logo.png ~ && sudo cp xfce4-logo.png distributor.png && killall gnome-panel
[05:20] <nickrud> gnomefreak: ^^
[05:20] <golanz> juhan... yes, two guys at MIT... but it is not a software
[05:20] <Shadowline> wvelez: ermmm, look in synaptic
[05:20] <gnomefreak> ty ill try it
[05:20] <wvelez> hi...how can i tell what version of Xorg I am running? thanks
[05:20] <Jhair> existance: I don't know, maybe run top in batch mode, redirect the output of top to a file and then check the file for ocurrences of your program
[05:20] <Seveas> Pygi, ?
[05:20] <existance> AndiM, err.. is that a built-in program?
[05:20] <_jason> wvelez: Xorg -version
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> --> sda1 sda5 sda6
[05:20] <juhan> golanz: they might have release the program afterwards
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> I have just formated /dev/sda to three partitions (and mounted, ext3) ... how can I set write privelegies to myself?
[05:20] <hurax> some noob questions: if i want to have both gnome and kde on my box and be able to choose between them, is it better to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:20] <wvelez> _jason: thank you
[05:20] <Spde>  anyone knows what the smbmount error messege: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) ??
[05:21] <golanz> I'll check here, thanks juhan: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/
[05:21] <hurax> GnarusLeo: do you want to mount them a user?
[05:21] <Pygi> Seveas: I have packages for you to test (not still final, but still) if you want?
[05:21] <paganini> First, a few weeks ago I was having a problem in kubuntu where some of my apps were not following my theme. Like, XCHAT looked really ugly. Someone told me about a GTK switch in KDE Control center that fixed it.
[05:21] <existance> Jhair, that looks a bit over my head :/
[05:21] <juhan> golanz:  no problem
[05:21] <novem> anyone? whats the command for the gnome keyring manager, if there even is one?
[05:21] <GnarusLeo> hurax, same ... i just tok chmod a+wrx :) never mind
[05:21] <paganini> Now I'm in regular ubuntu, and having a similar problem. Does anyone know of a similar fix?
[05:21] <Seveas> Pygi, sure - let's got to -offtopic
[05:21] <incorrect> oh thats new, shame its not searchable
[05:21] <wvelez> _jason: thank you...that worked...
[05:22] <hurax> and second: if i install the amd64 version, can i still run 32 bit x86 programs?
[05:22] <incorrect> thats interesting, i thought ubuntu would have had a more upto date net-smpd package than debian
[05:22] <Spde> Anyone? what dose the smbmount error messege: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) ??
[05:22] <juhan> paganini: is it xchat or gnome in general?
[05:23] <Sp4rKy> hi guys
[05:23] <Jhair> Spde: did you run smbmount with sudo?
[05:23] <paganini> Juhan: Some GNOME programs, but not all
[05:23] <paganini> For example, Synaptic doesn't follow my theme. The buttons are really square and clunky
[05:23] <edan> hi can anyone please tall me where i couled find a good assembler compiler??
[05:23] <shavvn> anyone know how to fix screwed up themes? all themes are the same for me
[05:24] <Jhair> edan: a good assembler or a good compiler?
[05:24] <incorrect> edan asm not good enough for you?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  synaptic is using the 'root' users settings for its theme.
[05:24] <paganini> Oh
[05:24] <paganini> That makes sense
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  so if you 'su' to a different user and run a program - that users themes are used. :P
[05:24] <DBO> hello
[05:25] <paganini> Dr_Willis: Doh. I should have thought of that. So, is there any way to change such settings for root?
[05:25] <Spde> Jhair: lol, no =) it keep saying wrong password =( dose it have anything to do whit the encryption?
[05:25] <edan> incorrect, no i need a good compiler with an out put screen and variable output like emu8086
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  A+ then :P lol.. Thinking logicially is conductive to proper linux ussage.
[05:25] <incorrect> is dapper based off debian testing or something?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> incorrect: no dapper is in devel
[05:25] <DBO> I am having trouble getting any sound to go with my videos... I have used Easy Ubuntu to try and fix the issue.  XMMS plays music fine however
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  run that gnome-theme selector  tool as root.  is one way.. OR better way - dont worry about it. Lol.
[05:25] <paganini> Hehe
[05:25] <paganini> Thanks
[05:25] <paganini> :)
[05:25] <DBO> can someone help me?
[05:25] <DBO> =)
[05:25] <nickrud> incorrect: they took stuff from unstable, up the freeze
[05:25] <edan> Jhair, i need a comiler
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud i think it worked
[05:26] <shavvn> please could someone tell me how to reconfigure themes or something, changing the settings does nothing :(
[05:26] <DJAdmiral> i need help please! i have an external hard disk that ubuntu identifies, but i can't create any folders on it. help!
[05:26] <gnomefreak> nickrud: that they did but etch is a different unstable than dapper is IMO
[05:26] <incorrect> you see debian is shipping with a horribly bugged version of net-snmpd, seems that all debian based distro's ship with it
[05:26] <Jhair> edan: emu8086 isn't a compiler AFAIK....
[05:26] <_jason> DBO: what type of videos
[05:26] <novem> is there even a manager utillity for gnome keyring?
[05:26] <DBO> _jason: mpeg, avi, the whole shoot really
[05:26] <novem> this is driving me nuts
[05:27] <nickrud> gnomefreak: after the freeze, yes (not counting their own patches)
[05:27] <incorrect> i thought emu8086 with an XT emulator :S
[05:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell DBO about multimedia
[05:27] <edan> Jhair, its not?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> novem: yes its in synaptic i think its gnome-keyring
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  what file system is on it?
[05:27] <novem> thanks
[05:27] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: i'm not sure, how do i find that out?
[05:27] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: it's a usb external hard disk by the way
[05:28] <DBO> _jason: I will tell you how that goes, thank you
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  'fdisk -l /dev/sd#' where sd# is the proper dev name of the device
[05:28] <Jhair> edan: no, it is a 8086 emulator with integrated assembler
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  has it beenused under windows befor?
[05:28] <novem> thats strange, its installed, gnome-keyring returns nothing in bash?
[05:28] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: yes
[05:29] <hurax> someone can help me?
[05:29] <edan> Jhair, oo so i gess i need an emulator
[05:29] <kingspawn> hurax: mostly likely
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  then i would guess its either NTFS or VFAT for the filesystem
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:29] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:29] <gnomefreak> novem: i thought that was the name run apt-cache search gnome-keyring
[05:29] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: it was formatted under windows xp
[05:30] <hurax> was asking whether 32-bit x86 programs run under an amd64 ubuntu
[05:30] <novem> gnomefreak: it is the correct name.
[05:30] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: however the hard disk can READ. I just need to write to it.
[05:30] <ribaldjester> I've setup fetchmail to grab email from Gmail. I don't have Mutt or Postfix or anything setup - I just wanted to try out fetchmail. It worked, but now I have no idea where the emails were downloaded to?!  :)
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  check out that !ntfs message/url - thers some other wiki/forum pages that discuss what going on in detail. You see the files? but cant make changes? or whats the exact problem?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> its gnome-keyring
[05:30] <ribaldjester> no mail folder under my user account.  nothing under /var/mail either...
[05:30] <LethalSword> whats a good program to install Windows games on ubuntu?
[05:30] <mephis1987> hello , can any 1 tell me how to install a package if i have a .deb file
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  Writing to a NTFS partition - is not 'safe'
[05:30] <nickrud> hurax: there are ways of doing that, none of which are trivial
[05:30] <paganini> Dr_Willis: Sweet! All fixed!
[05:31] <novem> gnomefreak: yes, but Is there a manager app to change my keyring password, or anything? if so how do i get to it?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> novem: or there is alway gnome-keyring-manager
[05:31] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: : cedega
[05:31] <AndiM> hurax: yup, there are 32bit compatibility system libraries, but at least 32bit Wine is an issue.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  kicking.. wha twas the propblem? i forget.. Lol.
[05:31] <paganini> LOL
[05:31] <juhan> mephis1987: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:31] <gnomefreak> novem: sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring-manager
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: the exact problem is I need to copy files to it. it refuses to copy.
[05:31] <LethalSword> KakiPukul i did get that but ubuntu wouldnt allow me to open it
[05:31] <hurax> ok, thanks
[05:31] <LethalSword> :S
[05:31] <mephis1987> juhan, thanks
[05:31] <KakiPukul> note cedega is still in development, it may suck at playing purely DirectX based games :)
[05:31] <paganini> So Synaptic looks like the rest of my system now
[05:31] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: i'm checking out the link now
[05:31] <gnomefreak> novem: make sure you have universe enabled
[05:31] <KakiPukul> ubuntu's evil then, LethalSword :)
[05:32] <LethalSword> it said that it would have security risks
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  writing to NTFS partitions is a 'work in progress' i hear that dapper can do it.. but no idea if it can, or how safe it is.
[05:32] <paganini> For my next question: After the GDM login screen there's a little splash window that displays some icons to show you what parts of your system are coming up. How do you customize that in GNOME?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  its in the conrtol-panel thinggies.. :P
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> paganini,  'gnome-splash' or somthing I think.
[05:33] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis: if writing to external hard disks at this moment is 'unsafe' then i guess i have no exact option to use it. it's my dad's. if it screws up, i'm toast.
[05:33] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: I'd stay off the writing to ntfs, yes
[05:33] <LethalSword> KakiPukul should i get Cedega again from a torrent maybe?
[05:33] <hurax> and is it better to start with ubuntu or kubuntu if i want to have both gnome and kde? i'm used to kde but would like to try gome too
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  yep.. sounds like  best to do READ ONLY then.
[05:33] <gnomefreak> system>preff>splash screen   if you have splash screen manger installed or gnome-art
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> hurax,  dosent matter.. i normally install UBUNTu - then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , first thing.
[05:34] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: , read cedega related forums, before actually using it...
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn, Dr_Willis: crap. looks like i have no way to backup my data now :(
[05:34] <hurax> thanks willis
[05:34] <paganini> Dr_Willis: Aha! I don't have the splash screen manager installed for some reason
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  backing up TO a usb ntfs - not good idea.
[05:34] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: copy the stuff on the usbdrive to your disk, reformat the usbdrive to FAT32, and start writing
[05:34] <LethalSword> where are the cedega related forums?
[05:34] <paganini> TYVM! Everything is cool now!
[05:34] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: its only NTFS thats got a problem
[05:34] <gnomefreak> paganini: gnome-art will install a few of those type apps
[05:34] <paganini> :)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  cedega homepage has ooodles of them.
[05:35] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: : the evil Google will help you find them...
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  but they mey be for paying customers only. Not sure.
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: i can't reformat it. my dad won't let me.
[05:35] <guest_> hi xx
[05:35] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: it will be the same as before, after yo uhave copied everything that was on it BACK
[05:35] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: looks like im pretty much toast :(
[05:35] <LethalSword> yea they are for only pay
[05:36] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: 1) copy data on usb to regular comp. 2) reformat usb to a format that works perfectly in WinXP (FAT32) 3) copy data from comp to usb again
[05:36] <Spde> Im trying to mount a samba filsystem in another ubuntu comp..  keep getting "12736: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) after typing in the password.. command (sudo smbmount //ip/folder /mnt/test username=spde) Plese help me =)
[05:36] <kingspawn> your dad will prolly never know
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: i know that, duh, but my dad knows that my hard disk is totally messed up.
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: oh he will know
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: trust me
[05:36] <kingspawn> im not sure what that means, but then youre toast, yes.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  how about this - install that tool that lets WindowsXP read/write Ext2/3 and use XP to backup your data.
[05:37] <LethalSword> Should  i get the .deb package of Cedega
[05:37] <novem> alright, i still cant figure out how to change the damn keyring password
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: the problem is my computer cannot run windows xp.
[05:37] <Tomcat_> Spde: Try adding the password after username... like "username=spde,password=mypass"
[05:37] <novem> i have both manager and services/client installed for gnome-keyring
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[05:37] <juhan> paganini: what did you use for changing the theme? sudo gnome-theme-manager doesn't change anything for me
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  what is it running then?
[05:37] <novem> where do i edit keyring passwords?
[05:37] <Jhair> Spde: is the smbfs kernel module active (what does lsmod | grep smb say?)
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: it cannot handle windows xp. it runs on winme
[05:37] <Tomcat_> Spde: If that doesn't work, I guess the share is not correctly configured.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  Ick!
[05:37] <Tomcat_> novem: gnome-keyring-manager
[05:37] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: seems some kind of setup you've got there
[05:37] <Frogzoo> !themes
[05:37] <Tomcat_> novem: Or rather... what keyring? :D
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> actually theres that 'ext2explorer' program that i think can do ext2 read only...
[05:38] <novem> Tomcat_: why does that command return not found?
[05:38] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: ick is right. and now winme is not booting.
[05:38] <Tomcat_> novem: Not installed maybe?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  if that usb drive is NTFS then windowsme - cant read it either.
[05:38] <mephis1987_> can any 1 guide me how to mount NTFS partition such as C and D: ?
[05:38] <novem> Tomcat_: definitally installed
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  if that usb drive is VFAT then linux Can read/wriote to it.
[05:38] <mephis1987_> is there some kind of script to do that
[05:38] <novem> could be a problem with dapper
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> mephis1987_,  the idea of C: and D: dont apply.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:38] <kingspawn> DJAdmiral: have you tried writing to it as root? i believe mounted devices are mounted with no write-access for regular users
[05:38] <LethalSword> Should i get the .deb package for Cedega
[05:38] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:38] <LethalSword> !rpm
[05:38] <ubotu> somebody said rpm was the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[05:39] <katarot> where can i learn the commands used in the terminal
[05:39] <Tomcat_> novem: Typo maybe? I have it installed as well and the command is available.
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: at the moment my winme cannot even recognise the external hard disk.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> katarot,  google is your friend.. "google for bash tutorials"
[05:39] <LethalSword> !alien
[05:39] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  use mount, and 'fdisk -l' and see what file system the thing is.
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> kingspawn: that is a good idea. let me try that
[05:39] <mephis1987_> but do u know how to mount ntfs partitions ?
[05:40] <nickrud> !scim
[05:40] <ubotu> scim is, like, totally, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[05:40] <Frogzoo> katarot: ls /bin & /usr/bin & work through the manpages with man
[05:40] <mephis1987_> !ntfs
[05:40] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> mephis1987_,  same as any othe rpartition.
[05:40] <Tomcat_> novem: dpkg -l gnome-keyring-manager <--- That command returns what?
[05:40] <KakiPukul> !uim
[05:40] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KakiPukul
[05:40] <Zonny> hm, do you guys know is easy ubuntu working with dapper?
[05:40] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about terminal
[05:40] <coredump> hi
[05:40] <nickrud> !info gnome-uim
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> dr_willis, kingspawn: everybody, the thing is MOUNTED. i can read from it. the problem is i can't write to it. in either case i'm logging on root now. i'll be back in a few minutes
[05:40] <DogWater> Howdy anyone know of any problems with GDM and 945G?
[05:41] <DogWater> I just got an inspiron 6400 and I tried installing ubuntu on it and i was sad to find out that gdm doesnt work on it.
[05:41] <Spde> Jhair: lsmod | grep smb returns nothing
[05:41] <LethalSword> how do i install cedega
[05:41] <DBO> _jason: it worked, thank you
[05:41] <LethalSword> i got a good package and extracted it
[05:41] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[05:41] <LethalSword> but theres more packages
[05:41] <alex6z> DogWater, what is this issue with gdm and login managers?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> The cedega homepage has docs. :P
[05:41] <AndiM> DogWater: what does gdm have to do with a specific machine? not much, if you ask me... you mean the X server doesn't start properly?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell LethalSword about cedega
[05:42] <alex6z> DogWater, I mean graphics hardware
[05:42] <Jhair> Spde: what does sudo modprobe smbfs.ko do?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> it needed some xlib package last i installed cedega - as well
[05:42] <KakiPukul> GDM works if X works
[05:42] <alex6z> Jhair, loads that module into the kernel
[05:42] <DogWater> alex6z: well i just got a totally brand new Dell laptop its an inspiron 6400 it has the Intel 945G
[05:42] <Jhair> alex6z: I know :)
[05:42] <gnomefreak> if his gdm isnt messed up
[05:42] <coredump> .oart
[05:42] <DogWater> and I just installed ubuntu and didnt change any of the default settings
[05:43] <Jhair> alex6z: I am asking Spde what does it on his machine, if it gives an error...
[05:43] <Spde> Jhair: FATAL: moduele smbfs.ko not found
[05:43] <alex6z> Jhair, ok :)
[05:43] <Tadej`Certanc> hello
[05:43] <DogWater> I was also trying to find out if anyone knows if the dell truemobile card was supported?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> DogWater: do you have any graphical desktop?
[05:43] <Tadej`Certanc> how can I make samba open port only on eth1?
[05:43] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering how do you mount a hard drive or does linux do it for you automatically?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:43] <DogWater> well when it starts up it tells me that GDM is disabled.. I'm a linux system administrator who has never used Linux as a desktop before.. so its kind of a funny paradigm...
[05:44] <_jason> jadaz87: what filesystem?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> ^^^ will tell you if its supported
[05:44] <Jhair> Spde: ugh. did you compiled that kernel by yourself? Or is the ubuntu kernel...
[05:44] <jadaz87> well ntfs but i am going to convert it to fat32
[05:44] <DogWater> I guess I could get by just using it in the shell.
[05:44] <DogWater> but then I may as well just use windows.
[05:44] <Spde> Jhair: its the ubuntu kernel
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  you can mount it manually of course.. then some disrtos/window managers can doit auto-matitially
[05:44] <jadaz87> because i do not think i can convert from ntfs to ext3
[05:44] <gnomefreak> DogWater:  read teh link above to find out if supported
[05:44] <DBO> jadaz
[05:44] <DBO> to do NTFS
[05:44] <DBO> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[05:44] <Jhair> Spde: could you try without the .ko extension?
[05:45] <DogWater> doesnt even mention this one lol
[05:45] <DogWater> guess windows it is :-)
[05:45] <gnomefreak> DBO: no please dont recommend that
[05:45] <Spde> Jhair: i can share to windows computers whit samba from the file server and the one i want to mount in
[05:45] <DBO> why? worked for me?
[05:45] <juhan> jadaz87: better fat32 in case you want to use it with windows again
[05:45] <_jason> DogWater: hmm what vid card does it have?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:45] <DogWater> 945G
[05:45] <DogWater> Intel
[05:45] <nickrud> DogWater: what exact error was that with gdm again?
[05:45] <DBO> oh I see
[05:45] <Spde> Jhair: returns nothing whitout the .ko
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> DBO,  ubuntuguide.org is rather out of date in Many 'bad' ways.
[05:45] <jadaz87> ok thanks let me convert it now
[05:45] <DogWater> hang on i'll upload the log
[05:46] <nickrud> DogWater: don't paste it here :)
[05:46] <Jhair> Spde: ok, could you try the lsmod .. thing again? is the module there?
[05:46] <kingspawn> DBO: help.ubuntu.com will usually answer
[05:46] <DogWater> upload generally indicates i'll transfer it somewhere
[05:46] <z33> How do I go about installing ubuntu over a current linux partition? I have a dual boot setup with fedora/WinXP and I want to get rid of Fedora and not lose the ability to boot to my WinXP partition
[05:46] <Spde> Jhair: yes it is
[05:46] <nickrud> DogWater: np, just being sure :)
[05:46] <Jhair> Spde: does smbmount give the same error now?
[05:47] <balmu> hola
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> z33 you can be sure to tell the ubuntu installer what parttion to install to, and let it format it..
[05:47] <mana> ola
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> not. working.
[05:47] <ppastor> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> z33,  be 'carefull' :P dont tell it to use the whole drive, or the wrong partition.
[05:48] <KakiPukul> !es
[05:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:48] <mana> que tal estais pipis
[05:48] <Spde> Jhair: yep, im staring to think it has something to do whit the samba share config.. smbclient //ip/user -U spde works perfectly
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> not working!
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  phrases like "not working" are sort of useless. :P
[05:48] <fcarde> marina
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> DJAdmiral,  also you dident need to 'reboot' to change to the root user. (which i think you did)
[05:48] <fcarde> violeta
[05:48] <ppastor> olaaaaaaaaaaa cacas
[05:48] <Jhair> Spde: you are right, I think I was completely missleaded :(
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> i hadn't rebooted
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> i logged out
[05:49] <jadaz87> oh man i love partition magic
[05:49] <ppastor> que tal estais cacas
[05:49] <fcarde> violeta
[05:49] <Gambit-> hey anyone do squid integration with clamav successfully?  What tools?  How?
[05:49] <wvelez> mana: marchate a #ubuntu-es que ahi de seguro encuentras pipis
[05:49] <Spde> Jhair: oh, sorry about that.. you know what it is? that makes me able to brows and so but not to mount?
[05:49] <ppastor> no hableis en ingles porfi
[05:49] <DogWater> www.systemadminihater.com/Xorg.0.log
[05:50] <DogWater> thats my x logfile
[05:50] <wvelez> aqui se habla ingles pisha
[05:50] <DogWater> if anyone cares
[05:50] <DogWater> :d
[05:50] <balmu> hol
[05:50] <z33> Dr_Willus, should I go under 'Manually edit partition table' and then select the lvm partition? I see 3 partitions, prim 1 which is windows, prim 2 which is only 107MB and is ext3 which I believe is the boot loader, and prim 3 which is lvm.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> z33,  i never use lvm. i just use a single partition.
[05:50] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : technically we don't, but we have ego to take care of :)
[05:51] <juhan> ppastor: que necesitas?
[05:51] <ppastor> churras
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> z33,  #2 sounds like a swap parttion. #3 sounds like your main fedora partition.
[05:51] <_jason> DogWater: can you put /etc/X11/xorg.conf on there too?
[05:51] <Jhair> Spde: could you write the *exact* command line you are using? you can replace the IP address with Xs of course.
[05:51] <DogWater> oh, well i only chose ubuntu because i heard its rad, and we want to be the first dedicated server provider to offer it as an option to our clients :D
[05:51] <DogWater> sure _jason
[05:51] <ppastor> nada nada letritas rojas
[05:51] <nickrud> DogWater: Does your xorg.conf mention PCI: (0:2:1) ? the log mentions 0:2:0 as well
[05:52] <redguy> Dr_Willis: a swap partition with ext3 on it? that would be really odd
[05:52] <juhan> ppastor: este canal es en ingles, lo siento
[05:52] <Jhair> ppastor: don't write in spanish. stop now.
[05:52] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[05:52] <redguy> z33: #2 is propably the /boot partition
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> redguy,  107mb - seems odd sized as well.
[05:52] <juhan> Jhair: no need to get angry
[05:52] <redguy> Dr_Willis: not for /boot
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> redguy,  where is his swap then? :P on the lvm?
[05:52] <redguy> Dr_Willis: why not?
[05:52] <z33> red, thats what I assumed, but I am not too familiar with partitioning.
[05:53] <DogWater> KakiPukul: my card isnt listed
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> z33,  sounds like you can delete #2 and #3
[05:53] <KakiPukul> I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics >> no problem with driver... just misconfigured pci location
[05:53] <Spde> Jhair: sudo smbclient //<IP_ADDRESS>/spde -U spde (works) and sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/spde /mnt/test/ username=spde (dosnt work)
[05:53] <rosa> haalo
[05:53] <DogWater> ohh the 945 is bundled in the 810
[05:53] <DogWater> gotcha
[05:53] <DogWater> nevermind ;-0
[05:53] <xsmogx> What would the command be to edit the host.deny and host.allow files
[05:53] <ppastor> no porfius no hableis en ingles no sabes hablar en espaol
[05:54] <Spde> Jhair: it works!
[05:54] <DogWater> is there anyway to tell if the card is actually on PCI:0:2:0 ?
[05:54] <Spde> Jhair: i had missed the -o flag
[05:54] <KakiPukul> xsmogx: : you can use any text editor, senor
[05:54] <nickrud> DogWater: lspci
[05:54] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : that's the controller location, the card is +1
[05:54] <xsmogx> I would need to login as root correct?
[05:54] <techrush> programming is hard
[05:54] <z33> Dr_Willis, the thing is, when I go into winXP and look at it with Partition Magic, it only shows up as 2 partitions, not to mention the #2 is labeled hda2 and #3 which is the primary fedora partition is not labeled, I believe they are connected
[05:54] <techrush> reminds me of math class :(
[05:54] <KakiPukul> BusID PCI:0:2:1 [05:55] <DogWater> it is pci 2
[05:55] <DogWater> hmm
[05:55] <nickrud> techrush: that's why I got out of programming, I didn't want any more math :)
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: uh? cool, what was the problem?
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: oh the -o option!
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> z33,  XP likes to hide things it dont know about.
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: :)
[05:55] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? tried this yet?
[05:55] <techrush> yeah i thought i was interested in it at 1st but now im having second thoughts
[05:55] <redguy> z33: PM doesn't propably know anything about LVM
[05:55] <Spde> Jhair: yeh, spend 3h on this =) sooo annoying, thanks for your help anywayy
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> z33,  boot to fedora and look at its fstab/mount command and see what partitions are where.
[05:55] <Jhair> Spde: ok
[05:56] <z33> Dr_Willis, I am just worried about deleting the boot loader and losing my ability to boot into either OS, but im sure there is an option further into the installation to install ubuntu's boot loader
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> I never use partiton magic any more.. live cd + qt_parted or Gparted - works forme.
[05:56] <ppastor> que no hableis en ingleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
[05:56] <nickrud> techrush: system admin takes *much* less math, and you get to mess around with programmers heads (or so I hear)
[05:56] <nickrud> !es
[05:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> !es
[05:56] <_jason> ppastor: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:56] <Jhair> ppastor: I told you ONCE! stop.
[05:56] <Spde> Jhair: btw, you know how i can make it mount eveytime i boot?
[05:57] <DogWater> well i went through the config and hit enter about 30 times lol
[05:57] <DogWater> i know absolutely nothing about x
[05:57] <Jhair> Spde: AFAIK you need to put an entry in the /etc/fstab file
[05:57] <LethalSword> yay i installed cedega by myself
[05:57] <LethalSword> haha
[05:57] <nickrud> DogWater: pop that new xorg.conf up on a pastebin
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  now ya gotta figure out how to use it.,
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:57] <LethalSword> umm can anybody help me uninstalling a crossover application
[05:58] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : X is mysterious :)
[05:58] <juhan> LethalSword:  i thought you just need to delete the folder
[05:58] <Spde> Jhair: sorry i don't relly get that? =S
[05:58] <LethalSword> ok
[05:58] <juhan> LethalSword: but i might be wrong
[05:58] <DogWater> i like how bluetooth gives me what looks like a 'panic' or a sighup every time the box boots up ;-)
[05:58] <LethalSword> meh
[05:58] <DogWater> bah its still not booting up ;-)
[05:58] <Spde> Jhair: shall i simply put the command in the /etc/fstab file?
[05:59] <DogWater> err, it boots i mean its just not launching X
[05:59] <fcarde>
[05:59] <Jhair> Spde: no you need an special format, the username and password should be put in a credentials file, see the smbmount man page for the credentials option
[05:59] <_jason> DogWater: use VESA as the video driver and see if that at least gets you X
[05:59] <DogWater> are the files im uploading to Sysadminihater readable to you fellas?
[05:59] <KakiPukul> VGA rocks! :)
[05:59] <nickrud> DogWater: the log was
[06:00] <Jhair> Spde: but basically you need to put //server/share /mnt/mountpoint smbfs credentials=credentials_file 0 0
[06:00] <Spde> Jhair: what dose the 0 0 stand for? =S
[06:01] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis it will not format it automatically whould it?
[06:01] <juhan>  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  huh?
[06:02] <DogWater> http://www.systemadminihater.com/xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
[06:02] <DogWater> if anyone has any further cloes
[06:02] <DogWater> thats since i ran the reconfigure
[06:02] <KakiPukul> DogWater: : I know one good hardware-detecting distro, tried "PCLinux" before? it even detected wifi USB adapter like RT2700
[06:02] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis you said that some version can automount but it whould not auto format whould it?
[06:02] <Spde> Spde: so the user and password is in plaintext but in a "credential" file? how dose that work =S
[06:02] <DogWater> If this doesnt work i might just wait until the next 6month release of buntu
[06:02] <DogWater> err ubuntu
[06:02] <DogWater> and stick with xppro
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  you are refering to the automounting of drives by the window manager/linux ?
[06:03] <KakiPukul> XP Pro rocks...
[06:03] <Jhair> Spde: those fields are not critical, the first 0 is for dumping filesystems and the second 0 is a number to identify the order the filesystems should be mounted
[06:03] <magenet> say that again
[06:03] <jadaz87> Dr_willis yes
[06:03] <Jhair> Spde: 0 0 are sane values
[06:03] <ribaldjester> anyone here have experience with fetchmail?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  no auto-formating.
[06:03] <nickrud> DogWater: I get the wrong page with xorg.conf
[06:04] <DogWater> nickrud: oh sorry, try now.
[06:05] <Spde> Jhair: ok, but i dont get what a credential file is? i mean how is that protected more then just the /etc/fstab ?
[06:05] <Ashly> How do I switch from gnome to kde? :P
[06:05] <cas> any ubuntu ircops availible?
[06:05] <asafdsa> hi peeps, just trying out ubuntu and apt-get install php doesn't work
[06:05] <kingspawn> Jhair: i thought the second number in fstab was for determining which filesystem is checked first (etc..) by fsck
[06:05] <asafdsa> do I need to add some other sources?
[06:05] <_jason> Ashly: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, will get you kde.  removing gnome is a bit more difficult
[06:05] <Jhair> Spde: the smbmount man page recommends the use of credentials files for inclusion of the file system in /etc/fstab, I don't have a rationale for that now, but I believe the man page authors :)
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Ashly,  install kubuntu-desktop, then on the login screen theres a menu you select which one to use
[06:05] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis thank you so much my last question is how do i know what it mounted it as the pointer name like (/, /mythtv)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  the 'mount' command tells you
[06:06] <KakiPukul> Ashly:  "dpkg-reconfigure kdm"? or just logout and Select KDE and make session as default
[06:06] <Jhair> Spde: as stated in the man page you can protect the file given it the right permissions (i.e. it should not be world readable).
[06:06] <Ashly> _jason and dr_Willis, thanks, and _jason had no plans on removeing gnome :)
[06:06] <Jhair> s/given/giving
[06:06] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis so just type mount at terminal and it will list them?
[06:06] <Spde> Jhair: so i just make a ordernaty text file that i hide and grant no access to? and link to it in the credentials=whereitis?
[06:06] <nickrud> DogWater: ok, I'm paddling over my head here, I would expect 0:2:1 to be ignored, since it's not mentioned in the xorg.conf
[06:07] <Jhair> Spde: I think it is because /etc/fstab is usualy world readable
[06:07] <Jhair> Spde: exactly
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  it would of been faster if you had tried that. :) then asking. LOL...
[06:07] <Spde> Jhair: thanks a lot for all the help!
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  try it and see. :P
[06:07] <Jhair> Spde: you are welcome!
[06:07] <asafdsa> in fact, a lot of the development stuff seems to be missing from the default ubuntu install :(
[06:08] <KakiPukul> asafdsa: "build-essential"
[06:08] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis i did not there is a line that says /mnt/auto is that the hd drive?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  you are using ubuntu? normally eveyrthing is in /media/
[06:09] <LethalSword> how do you install a game with Cedega
[06:09] <z33> If I deleted a partition and would like to install Ubuntu to that free space, do I create a new partition with that free space or do I use Auto partion the free space? If I auto partition it the 'smiley' on my winXP partition goes away, does that mean it will overwrite it?
[06:09] <_jason> DogWater: did you try using VESA as the video driver?
[06:10] <DogWater> if i do a lspci it says 0000:00:02.1 display controller: intel corp: unknown device 27a6 (rev 03)
[06:10] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis no knoppmyth i was going to use ubuntu and then myth over it but i whould have an extremely hard time as you can see i am early user of linux
[06:10] <LethalSword> Can anybody help me how to install with Cedeg
[06:10] <LethalSword> a
[06:10] <asafdsa> KakiPukul, will that provide the links to php? apt-get install php4 would be nice.  I wondered if I need to edit the list of servers to get packages from
[06:11] <LethalSword> anyone?
[06:11] <Random_Transit> hey...is GNOME 2.14 available in the breezy repos yet?
[06:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell asafdsa about lamp
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  googling for a few of the 'mount drive linux' tutorials will explain how things work. its rather simple. :P
[06:11] <KakiPukul> there's a lot of PHP/PHP=related packages.... you just know where to look at
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  its when things start auto-mounting that it can get confusing.
[06:11] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about cedega
[06:11] <Jhair> Random_Transit: wasn't gnome 2.14 released until today!?
[06:12] <andrewPCT> Jhair: yesterday
[06:12] <jadaz87> Dr_willis of ok
[06:12] <Dmitrijus> hey Digis ;] ]
[06:12] <Jhair> andrewPCT: I wonder why Random_Transit expects breezy backports today :(
[06:12] <LethalSword> can anybody help me
[06:13] <asafdsa> thanks _jason and KakiPukul... just investigating
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  what part of the process are youy haveing issues with?
[06:13] <andrewPCT> Jhair: i wonder why he hasn't just gone to dapper to get gnome 2.14, i think i had it in dapper on tuesday
[06:13] <LethalSword> umm i just dont know how to install games
[06:13] <Random_Transit> andrewPCT...because I like stabilty
[06:14] <KakiPukul> LethalSword: how about using Windows?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  fire up cedega, use the point-to-play interface. pop in the cd. and start clicking. :P
[06:14] <KakiPukul> heh
[06:14] <nickrud> DogWater: if it said that, think I'd try that as my pci device in xorg.conf
[06:14] <andrewPCT> Random_Transit: i've been using dapper for a while now without problems
[06:14] <LethalSword> Dr_Willis what do i click though
[06:14] <servers> how can I play .wmv on ubuntu? ;/
[06:14] <LethalSword> cuz install isnt highlighter
[06:15] <HymnToLife> !wmv
[06:15] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:15] <LethalSword> highlighted*
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  i seem to recall a butotn called 'install' in the top somewhere..
[06:15] <LethalSword> its not highlighted
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you did set up cedega and put in your cedega name/password and update it?
[06:15] <Random_Transit> yeah, but i've heard too many horror stories about broken dapper installs
[06:15] <LethalSword> i havent got a name and password
[06:15] <LethalSword> and im not paying for it
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  also the cedega homepage has docs/details/examples.
[06:15] <LethalSword> :)
[06:16] <LethalSword> ill get the demo version maybe
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you are using the demo? or did you warez it?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> If you dont have the demo.. then you cant do any more.
[06:16] <LethalSword> umm if i answer warez will i get kicked?
[06:16] <zAo^> lol
[06:16] <LethalSword> ok
[06:16] <LethalSword> ill do the demo
[06:16] <LethalSword> how do i uninstall it then
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> You must have a username/pass to actually use the real thing. thats the bottom line. :P
[06:16] <LethalSword> haha
[06:16] <LethalSword> no dont kick me
[06:17] <Random_Transit> lol
[06:17] <Random_Transit> ^_~
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Cedega home page - 'read docs' :P
[06:17] <ErPiU> hi all
[06:18] <LethalSword> how do i uninstall it
[06:18] <LethalSword> ?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> same as you uninstall any other package is one way.. synpatic.
[06:19] <KakiPukul> just delete the game folder?
[06:20] <mephis1987_> sorry
[06:20] <mephis1987_> how can i find libqt3c102-mt
[06:20] <mephis1987_> how can i find libqt3c102-mt package
[06:20] <Stormx2> mephis1987_: What is this for, skype?
[06:20] <LethalSword> mark for complete removal Dr_Willis?
[06:20] <mephis1987_> yes
[06:21] <Stormx2> mephis1987_: Check the wiki
[06:21] <rudiz> opera?
[06:21] <Stormx2> !skype
[06:21] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  may as well. :P  ive never uninstalled it.
[06:21] <mephis1987_> ok
[06:21] <mephis1987_> thanks a lot
[06:21] <LethalSword> ok lol
[06:21] <Stormx2> Check that, the dependancies are broken on the package released by skype
[06:21] <Stormx2> !tell rudiz about opera
[06:21] <porky_scratching> how do I reg a name in irc?
[06:22] <Stormx2> porky_scratching: /msg nickserv help register
[06:22] <LethalSword> where do i go for the demo
[06:23] <Stormx2> porky_scratching: Basicly, its just "/msg nickserv register <pass here>"
[06:23] <kingspawn> LethalSword: start using google, it's got an answer for almost everything.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword, ------->  Cedega home page. The answer to all your Cedega needs
[06:23] <LethalSword> im looking
[06:23] <LethalSword> but only finding stuff to subscribe
[06:24] <Spde> Jhair: in the line //server/share /mnt/mountpoint smbfs credentials=credentials_file 0 0 what dose smbfs stand for??
[06:24] <porky_scratching> Stormx2: got it thnx
[06:24] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis do you know of any utility where i whould be able to convert from fat32 to ext3 without losing all data?
[06:24] <Stormx2> Also LethalSword, ask in #cedega...
[06:24] <LethalSword> i got kicked from there
[06:24] <kingspawn> you dont say
[06:24] <Stormx2> Spde: Samba Filesystem
[06:24] <babo> Hi guys, I just came and found my harddrive blazing and strange things happening to my bash prompt. I think I might have been hacked ... how can I check ?
[06:25] <Stormx2> LethalSword: Why? :P
[06:25] <Jhair> Spde: is the filesystem type
[06:25] <babo> Is there any plausible reason for something like that ... root or user don't have any crontabs ?
[06:26] <kingspawn> babo: whats your memory usage like? does ps -aux show anything unusal? what do the logs say?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  qtparted/gparted can do that I do belive.
[06:26] <pjv> anyone here used xvidcap?
[06:26] <LethalSword> Stormx2 because i asked for a cedega trial crack :P
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  best to backup your data however.
[06:26] <Spde> Jhair: why do you leave out smbmount? =S
[06:26] <Stormx2> LethalSword: Rofl
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Gee. i could of guessed that.
[06:27] <Stormx2> LethalSword: Pirate Bay dude... but really, that was stupid
[06:27] <babo> kingspawn: I killed the process ... ps aux will only show current processes yes ?
[06:27] <asafdsa> thanks for ur help chaps
[06:27] <LethalSword> i searched pirate bay but no crack
[06:27] <LethalSword> :P
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Proberly after they told him 100 times to go read the docs also...
[06:27] <kingspawn> babo: yes. what process did you kill? and what about the logs?
[06:27] <takedown> !lt
[06:27] <Jhair> Spde: AFAIK mount alone can do exactly the same as smbmount :). the filesystems specified in /etc/fstab are mounted with mount alone
[06:27] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, takedown
[06:27] <LethalSword> what are the variables i type after tar to extract a tar file
[06:28] <kingspawn> LethalSword: man tar - an excellent resource
[06:28] <Spde> Jhair: AFAIK mount??? =S
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> google 'tar tutorial'
[06:28] <Jhair> Spde: I mean I think you can mount samba shares using only mount
[06:28] <Jhair> Spde: there is the "smbmount" command, and the "mount" command
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> mount -t smbfs
[06:28] <Jhair> Spde: exactly what Dr_Willis now said
[06:28] <gopi> I am going to install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd6 and there are few descriptions in synaptic package manager like Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 and similarly for AMD K8.....
[06:29] <gopi> how do I select which one for mine? Mine is Athlon64 system
[06:29] <gopi> And when I type uname -r , it showed 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[06:30] <Spde> Jhair: now im really confused =) so i only need to specify the file system typ (samba) in the etc/fstab file?
[06:30] <LethalSword> is it tar -xvcf
[06:30] <LethalSword> ???
[06:30] <kingspawn> LethalSword: what happens when you try that on your tar file?
[06:30] <Jhair> Spde: yes, you don't need to specify the command at all. I think the first line I send you is correct
[06:31] <LethalSword> nothing
[06:31] <gopi> So can I select Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 or Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8  ???
[06:31] <LethalSword> haha
[06:31] <kingspawn> LethalSword: is it just a .tar file or a tar.gz file?
[06:31] <RQ> hi  everyone
[06:31] <LethalSword> just tar
[06:31] <kingspawn> then xvf should do it
[06:32] <O_Rei_do_Gado> how can i install vmware tools on ubuntu?
[06:32] <_jason> LethalSword: c is for create :)
[06:32] <snowblink> !tell LethalSword about tar
[06:32] <gopi> I am going to install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd6 and there are few descriptions in synaptic package manager like Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 and similarly for AMD K8..... how do I select which one for mine? Mine is Athlon64 system.....And when I type uname -r , it showed 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic.......So can I select Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on x86_64 or Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K8  ???
[06:32] <kingspawn> "e(x)tract (v)erbose (f)ile"
[06:32] <babo> kingspawn: I've checked a few of the logs ... apache, mysql, snort ... there's nothing there that's strange
[06:32] <bdash> When I try to upadate I get "W: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/Whatever the package is" message for each package? Help?
[06:32] <RQ> i'm trying to setup SMTP AUTH with TLS, and something obviously doesn't work.  It only found one of my two wireless network cards (I got two) and I can't make it work. I finds the network when I broadcast the SSID - but I don't get an IP. Everything works perfect in Breezy. Can anyone please help me? I fear this problem will exist in the final release of Dapper which will force me to stick with Breezy :-((
[06:32] <RQ> any ideas?
[06:32] <nickrud> gopi: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) will get the headers for your running kernel
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> bdash,  sounds like the server is down.
[06:33] <Jhair> O_Rei_do_Gado: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu?highlight=%28qemu%29%7C%28vmware%29
[06:33] <snowblink> !tell Jemt about dapper
[06:33] <gopi> nickrud: Thank you...
[06:33] <bdash> Dr_Willis: Anywhere I can check server status?
[06:33] <RQ> Jemt dapper is alpha software. what's so weird about it not working?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> bdash, no idea. try pinging it?
[06:33] <babo> Kingspawn: I didn't really even check properly what process it was ... it looked like bash was returning itself a couple of times and then spiting out bits of code ... I just killed it straight away ...
[06:33] <nickrud> gopi: just cut and paste that :)
[06:33] <Jemt> RQ, It's flight5 - it's gonna be released next month!
[06:33] <RQ> bdash apt-get update
[06:34] <RQ> Jemt there's a lot to fix before the next month, i think ;)
[06:34] <babo> I'll power it down now and boot it up on security auditor tomorrow and check for any rootkits ... maybe I should just format the whole thing ??
[06:34] <gopi> nickrud: yes thanks :)
[06:34] <Jhair> RQ: alpha software looks very different than the current Dapper state, I am sure...
[06:34] <seroxat> i just installed ubuntu on my machine but it fails to start X because "no screens found"
[06:35] <RQ> Jhair well i'm using dapper at home. it's very unstable if you ask me
[06:35] <kingspawn> babo: have you got an ssh server running? other stuff?
[06:35] <RQ> Jhair for example, rhythmbox crashes very often
[06:35] <RQ> seroxat try reconfiguring the x server
[06:35] <seroxat> RQ: how?
[06:35] <Jemt> RQ, Hopefully! The primary reason why I move to a new distribution is when a new version is released and it is not compatible with my system any more
[06:36] <bdash> RQ: Everything seems to work through apt-get update but when I use the software update I still get that error. ?.?
[06:36] <RQ> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf
[06:36] <Jhair> RQ: rhythmbox crashes for me in breezy...
[06:36] <RQ> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:36] <nazgulwalker> anyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?
[06:36] <RQ> bdash maybe the packages haven't hit the server yet?
[06:36] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what is the best way to install wine is form synaptic?
[06:36] <babo> I have ssh, four perl sockets, nessus, apache, www, dhclient, cupsd
[06:36] <_jason> O_Rei_do_Gado: enable universe and do: sudo aptitude install wine
[06:36] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado just search for "wine" and check it for installation
[06:36] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok
[06:37] <babo> I think it may have been a perl process running
[06:37] <bdash> RQ: Could be. Is there a news site that has updates on the various ubuntu servers?
[06:37] <z33> Should I create seperate partitions to be mounted to /home and /, or can I just mount one partition to / and install ubuntu onto that?
[06:38] <kingspawn> z33: the choice is yours
[06:38] <z33> king, are there benefits of doing it a certain way or just personal preference?
[06:38] <juhan> z33: i recomend separate
[06:38] <obli> Anyone know hoe I get my extra mouse buttons to work?
[06:38] <babo> ssh should be locked down on my router though ... I'll check ...
[06:38] <RQ> bdash i don't think you need a news server just for that
[06:38] <nickrud> z33: but separate partitions are a great idea
[06:38] <obli> *how
[06:38] <RQ> z33.home separate has some bebnefits
[06:39] <RQ> (sorry for typos_)
[06:39] <_jason> !mouse
[06:39] <ubotu> mouse is probably Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[06:39] <LethalSword> anybody know where to get a full working copy of cedega
[06:39] <obli> thanks
[06:39] <z33> How should the size distribution be? 60% space goes to /home and 40% goes to /? Or how would I decide on that?
[06:39] <kingspawn> z33: separate /home have the same benefits as keeping your games separated from your system in windows
[06:39] <_jason> LethalSword: http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:39] <LethalSword> haha _jason
[06:40] <_jason> ?
[06:40] <juhan> z33 how much space do you have?
[06:40] <nickrud> z33: 8-10GB on / is plenty, put the rest into home
[06:40] <bdash> RQ: Cheers.
[06:40] <RQ> z33 i think it's enough to le say six gigz for /, and everything else to /home
[06:40] <nickrud> z33: with a bit for swap
[06:40] <RQ> s/le/leave/
[06:40] <z33> juhan, I have 10.1 GB to partition for Ubuntu, I have 1 GB of RAM and someone reccommended RAM x2 for swap size so I put 2 GB for swap, so I have 8.1 GB left over
[06:41] <RQ> bdasry a us server
[06:41] <RQ> bah
[06:41] <RQ> bdash: try a us server
[06:41] <_jason> z33: you don't need all that swap
[06:41] <z33> _jason, how much do reccommend?
[06:41] <LethalSword> is there any Cedega alternative?
[06:41] <O_Rei_do_Gado> but wine from synaptic is not new version....
[06:42] <RQ> z33 one gig for swap is more than enough
[06:42] <nickrud> z33: and with that small a drive, 6gb for / is a better idea, more space four you.
[06:42] <LethalSword> is there any
[06:42] <z33> RQ, thanks
[06:42] <mikebot> what is the search command, like apt-get search or something
[06:42] <RQ> it actually depends on how hard you press on ram
[06:42] <nickrud> mikebot: ?
[06:42] <mikebot> nickrud: to search packages in terminal
[06:42] <nickrud> mikebot: erm, apt-cache search
[06:42] <mikebot> nickrud: ah thanks
[06:42] <O_Rei_do_Gado> RQ:  but wine from synaptic is not new version....
[06:43] <nickrud> mikebot: first cut, I though that's what you wrote :)
[06:43] <LethalSword> anybody know
[06:43] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado you didn't ask for a NEW version, did you?
[06:43] <O_Rei_do_Gado> RQ can i install frm sources?
[06:43] <mikebot> nickrud: hehe
[06:43] <O_Rei_do_Gado> sorry rq
[06:43] <nickrud> LethalSword: dual booting
[06:43] <_jason> z33: with 1gb of ram you'll probably almost never go into swap, 1gb is plenty.  I have 1gb with 512mb of ram and think it's a waste of space
[06:43] <juhan> z33 that's a lot of swap, i would leave it at 1gb and then it gets tricky... probably 5 gb for / and the rest for home
[06:43] <LethalSword> nickrud i meant a linux program
[06:43] <LethalSword> i had windows and got badly hacked
[06:43] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado yes you can. but i prefer .debs
[06:44] <mikebot> nickrud: thanks, cya
[06:44] <nickrud> LethalSword: I keep windows around for what little gaming I do, and don't have the net come up
[06:44] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what i need to instal from sources?
[06:44] <Chodder> O_Rei_do_Gado, bild essentials
[06:44] <LethalSword> but there is no other program?
[06:44] <Chodder> build*
[06:44] <RQ> O_Rei_do_Gado check winehq.com or sth/
[06:45] <RQ> you need a C compiler and some libs
[06:45] <nazgulwalker> anyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?
[06:45] <Chodder> apt-get install build-essentials
[06:45] <O_Rei_do_Gado> is that Getting source packages from the repository?
[06:45] <Chodder> I think
[06:45] <RQ> if you have enabled source repos, you may try sudo apt-get build-deps wine
[06:45] <RQ> or sth
[06:45] <RQ> apt-get --help for more info
[06:45] <nickrud> LethalSword: none that I ever found worth the hassle: wine & cedega, & too expensive: vmware & too inadequate: qemu
[06:46] <Stalwart> !w32codecs
[06:46] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> games are for the weak!
[06:47] <servers> when I play .wmv I can only hear sound no image y is this happening?
[06:47] <RQ> servers:
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> servers,  codec issues.
[06:47] <RQ> !w32codecs
[06:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:47] <kuja> ubotu: mp3
[06:48] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:48] <RQ> get this and install it
[06:48] <_jason> servers: what player?
[06:48] <servers> _jason totem
[06:49] <_jason> servers: install totem-xine from unvirse and see ubotu's link above for w32codecs
[06:49] <LethalSword> can DirectX be installed on Ubuntu
[06:49] <robinl1> why do my gnome apps take so long to start up?
[06:49] <batman> hello has anyone here ever gotten quake 3 arena demo to work? every time i download a demo its a .gz.sh extension
[06:49] <juhan> i don't know why but my x server keeps crashing
[06:49] <servers> I already installed the codecs
[06:49] <juhan> i just lost sound and now everything will start collapsing
[06:49] <LethalSword> Dr_willis cant it install?
[06:49] <juhan> :(
[06:49] <juhan> bye
[06:50] <LethalSword> so that u can run games through crossover
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> servers,  thers dozens of codecs. try vlc, and xine, and mplayer, run them fromt he shell.. check their log/messages
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you are refering to 'CrossOverOffice' ?
[06:50] <LethalSword> yes
[06:50] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, Look for WineX in http://www.winehq.com/
[06:50] <LethalSword> thanks
[06:51] <LethalSword> and it runs games Enthusiast78?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> winex - was the old name for Cedega :P
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> unless i am confused
[06:51] <nazgulwalker> anyone using drscheme in ubuntu amd64?
[06:51] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, Precisely. ;)
[06:51] <LethalSword> ok
[06:51] <void^> LethalSword: just use windows for games that require it.
[06:51] <nickrud> LethalSword: I understand your intent, but windows gaming on linux is a losing proposition except for those who know wine inside and out
[06:52] <Enthusiast78> Anyone can tell me how do I change the default text editor from nano to vi? I'm having a bad time whenever I have to 'crontab -e'... :(
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Cedega does a very good job - with some games.. but still native windows is the way to go.
[06:52] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: no, you're not :)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> nickrud,  thats a First! :p
[06:52] <nickrud> Enthusiast78: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[06:52] <Enthusiast78> nickrud, Thanks!
[06:53] <LethalSword> Enthusiast78 i cant find anything on it
[06:53] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, Lemme check the exact URL for ya...
[06:53] <LethalSword> ok thanks
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok i just use deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> from apt line
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok i just use deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> and check the wine new version
[06:54] <malikyo> does anyone know if the video of the iMac turned out to be real?
[06:54] <O_Rei_do_Gado> at the moment is downloading the file
[06:54] <kitchen> I've rtfm + stfw and I'm not having any love from wpa_supplicant either wep or wpa.  iwconfig "standard" config works np.  anyone got ideas?
[06:55] <O_Rei_do_Gado> RQ:  it install auto from ap line?
[06:55] <O_Rei_do_Gado> after downloading...?
[06:56] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, I think www.transgaming.com is the site with winex info, but I'll still check for the exact URL...
[06:57] <stian> is it not called cedega? winex?
[06:57] <tombs> hi all
[06:57] <kip> hi
[06:57] <polpak> stian, it is
[06:57] <stian> Greetings
[06:57] <kip> i want to ask
[06:57] <stian> polpak, good, then I haven't missed anything :)
[06:57] <stian> kip, shoot
[06:58] <kip> is its dangerousd to close ubuntu by the power off button on the machine
[06:58] <pc15001> hola
[06:58] <pc15001> que tal
[06:58] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ol pc
[06:58] <nazgulwalker> where can i reach PATH's file ?
[06:58] <polpak> kip, depends on what fs you use..
[06:58] <AndiM> kip: if ACPI is configured correctly, then it should work fine
[06:58] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ola pc15001
[06:58] <stian> kip: that really depends. if you computer is working on something, and writing to the disk, you might end up having to reformat
[06:58] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: env | sort shows it
[06:59] <_jason> nazgulwalker: you mean the file where the PATH environment variable is set?
[06:59] <kip> beacuse yesterday i closed it by on /off
[06:59] <AndiM> kip: (just make sure you don't use the >= 4 seconds "emergency power-off" ;)
[06:59] <polpak> stian, not if you use ext3 or another journalling fs
[06:59] <kip> andil thats what i used
[06:59] <LethalSword> Enthusiast78 pm me the link please
[06:59] <Storkme> no one EVER use scratchtelecom for webhosting/dedicated servers/vps
[06:59] <Absenth> is there a CLI command I can issue on Breezy that will tell me which processor is running in my laptop?
[06:59] <stian> polpak, weel, if you do it while writing a new kernel you might be in trouble :P
[07:00] <_jason> Absenth: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:00] <kip> beacuse it was in hibernate and it didnt want to be on
[07:00] <polpak> kip, it should be fine
[07:00] <kip> and this moring it beeped at the loading
[07:00] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, This is THE thing: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[07:00] <nazgulwalker> _jason yes
[07:00] <kip> and it didnt find my hd
[07:00] <Absenth> _jason, Thanks.  got an Old P2 Notebook, but had no idea what speed the P2 was
[07:01] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, You'll probably have to 'agree' to a license first...
[07:01] <nazgulwalker> where can i change my PATH variable?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> and read :P
[07:01] <nazgulwalker> where can i change my PATH variable? and set new PATH as default
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> nazgulwalker,  .bashrc .bash_profile or system widew in /etc/profile
[07:01] <polpak> kip, was it the bios that was complaining, or grub?
[07:01] <_jason> nazgulwalker: when you login to gnome, it's set in /etc/login.defs, otherwise /etc/profile
[07:01] <Enthusiast78> LethalSword, But then the page with CVS download and install instructions will be shown...
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> nazgulwalker,  pick one. :P
[07:01] <kip> and is it normal that my windows is awfully slow now
[07:01] <nazgulwalker> thanks
[07:01] <kip> grub i think
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> kip,  installing Linux - should have no effect on your windows installl.
[07:02] <kip> whats the grub
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> !grub
[07:02] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:02] <kip> well the windows now is damn slow
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> GRUB is the bootloader/menu that lets you pick what os to boot.
[07:02] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cedega is only for games?
[07:02] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, more or less
[07:03] <O_Rei_do_Gado> can it run some apps?
[07:03] <robinl1> ..
[07:03] <robinl1> wtf
[07:03] <O_Rei_do_Gado> like wine...
[07:03] <robinl1> lots of people flashed offline
[07:03] <robinl1> on lots of servers
[07:03] <Absenth> O_Rei_do_Gado, well,  it "can" run things that aren't games, but it's not nearly as good as basic Wine, or Crossover Office.
[07:03] <stian> O_Rei_do_Gado, you can, but their goal is to make it run games as best as possible
[07:03] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, and with the rate wine is progressing there's not a whole lot of advantages to cedega anyway
[07:03] <robinl1> at the same time!
[07:03] <kip> will
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[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Cedega can run apps and games.
[07:03] <Absenth> polpak, wine supports DX now?
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[07:03] <kip> it was when ubuntu started loading
[07:04] <Enthusiast78> O_Rei_do_Gado, The purpose of WineX (or Cedega) is to emulate DirectX. You better go with plain wine if you want to run 'regular' (no-DirectX) apps.
[07:04] <polpak> Absenth, yes,
[07:04] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cedega works to turn the games on the top!
[07:04] <polpak> Absenth, not fully, but enough to get by for many things
[07:04] <polpak> Absenth, and the level of support depends on the DX version
[07:04] <O_Rei_do_Gado> if does the applications run on the top too...
[07:04] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cause system core is completely updated...
[07:05] <Absenth> polpak, I see.  been using cedega since it changed names from WineX
[07:05] <wastrel> ubuntu
[07:05] <obli> There's a plugin for GIMP that makes it look like photoshop, right?
[07:05] <Absenth> O_Rei_do_Gado, I use Crossover Office from Codeweavers for non-3d applications.  I'm sure Wine would do a great job, but, Xover is just darn easy
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> obli,  i recall a variant that rearanged the menus..
[07:05] <Absenth> obli, "GimpShop" is what you're looking for.
[07:05] <AndiM> obli: GimpShop. Mac only, AFAIK.
[07:06] <flocks> \j ##c
[07:06] <flocks> oups
[07:06] <Absenth> AndiM, Nope, Windows, and linux flavors out there now too.
[07:06] <O_Rei_do_Gado> crossover is comercial and payed...
[07:06] <obli> dang
[07:06] <polpak> Absenth, I prefer wine from the perspective of their design goals anyway. The whole cedega thing is kinda wack. They just patch things up in order to get the games with the most votes working even if it borks older games
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> I thoght i tried gimpshop under linux.
[07:06] <O_Rei_do_Gado> cedega too
[07:06] <obli> Dr_Willis, yes, that's the one
[07:06] <obli> I'm totally lost in GIMP :(
[07:06] <polpak> Absenth, so in many cases you have to have different cedega versions installed to play all your games
[07:06] <Absenth> O_Rei_do_Gado, I have no problem with paying for a product that does what I want, and doesn't require me to pull out any additional hair :)
[07:06] <O_Rei_do_Gado> wine is totally free...
[07:06] <Absenth> It is.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Heck with PC games.. go get a Gamecube. :P
[07:07] <O_Rei_do_Gado> but much bugs,,,
[07:07] <Absenth> I'm sure I could make wine do what I want it to also.
[07:07] <kip> gc = best
[07:07] <Absenth> but I refuse to go grey any faster then I already am.  Xover is just darn easy.
[07:07] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I wouldn't say wine has a lot of bugs
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Getting where copy protection of PC games are nasty...
[07:07] <O_Rei_do_Gado> wine is very unstable versus crossover
[07:07] <z33> I just installed Ubuntu and it finished Stage 1 of the installation, I took the CD out and it rebooted and came to the Grub screen with a grub> prompt. Does that mean I installed grubbed to the wrong spot?
[07:07] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, Xover just makes configuring and installing apps much easier than it is w/ default wine
[07:07] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: lol, no windows! why didn't I think of that
[07:07] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what is Xover?
[07:08] <Absenth> Crossover
[07:08] <Absenth> office
[07:08] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ah ok
[07:08] <kip> willis
[07:08] <kip> i have two drive one with win2k one with ubuntu
[07:09] <kip> why my win2k is damn slow
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> the is some 3rd parties like winetools, to install much things
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> did you know 3rd parties like winetools?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> kip,  prove its linux's fault.. remove the linux hd. and see..
[07:09] <kip> before i had ubuntu it was fast
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> more 3rd parties...
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ?
[07:09] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I've used winetools
[07:09] <z33> Anyone know why I am stuck at the Grub screen after finishing stage 1 of Ubuntu installation?
[07:09] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, it works pretty well
[07:09] <DigitalLF> whats the name for the kernel modules for pcmcia?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> kip,  you dident reformat the drive with the swap file did ya?
[07:09] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak
[07:09] <kip> willis it tries to access the D
[07:10] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak but runs an error on system odbc
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> kip,  sound s like windows is being stupid. :P
[07:10] <kip> yeah
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> kip,  disable D: in the device manager or whatever its called.
[07:10] <kip> i might format the two drive to put ubuntu only
[07:10] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak you use odbc in wine?
[07:10] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I haven't tried yet no
[07:10] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> kip,  thats an even better idea
[07:10] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I mostly work with mysql and postgresql databases
[07:11] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i need to repair system odbc...
[07:11] <kip> but i dont know how to format the ubuntu one
[07:11] <kip> beacuse it has ubuntu on it
[07:11] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i never tryed mysql , postgreesql
[07:11] <polpak> kip, the installer for ubuntu will let you format your drives
[07:11] <x_or> Anyone know of a good ISO linux recovery system?  I tried trinity and it just won't boot properly for me.  I need to repartition my drive after a kernel update.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> kip,  if its allready installed - you dont need to reinstall.
[07:11] <nickrud> DigitalLF: the pcmcia kernel modules are part of the stock kernel in ubuntu, iirc
[07:11] <kip> willis i want to move it
[07:11] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: mysql is simple to use?
[07:12] <kip> beacuse it not on the 20gb
[07:12] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, yes
[07:12] <kip> its on the 6gb
[07:12] <O_Rei_do_Gado> can i use via odbc, ado ?
[07:12] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, postgreSQL has more features though (similiar to what you'd get with an enterprise level DB)
[07:12] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, odbc is supported by both mysql and postgreSQL
[07:12] <O_Rei_do_Gado> great
[07:12] <wastrel> odbc eh
[07:12] <jimcooncat> casting my vote for postgresql
[07:12] <O_Rei_do_Gado> postgreesql is free?
[07:13] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, yes
[07:13] <O_Rei_do_Gado> and more powerfull tha mysql?
[07:13] <nickrud> x_or: damn small linux (about 50M)
[07:13] <x_or> nickrud: Does it have a partitioner?
[07:13] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, has more features like views, transactions, paging, stored proceedures, etc
[07:13] <nickrud> x_or: it'll have cfdisk, at the least
[07:13] <kip> dsl is amazing
[07:13] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok i will try .
[07:14] <x_or> Ok, but that will destroy all the data, no?  Does it do non-destructive partioning?
[07:14] <nickrud> x_or: no, it doesn't do non-destructive
[07:14] <HymnToLife> x_or> what exactly do you want to do ?
[07:14] <polpak> x_or, you want either parted or gparted for a graphical front end
[07:14] <Goldfisch> x_or: I always keep knoppix around as a rescue CD>
[07:15] <nickrud> x_or: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html
[07:15] <x_or> HymnToLife:  I updated a ubuntu machine and I think it moved /boot outside of an area which grub could access.  So, I need to repartion, but don't want to lose my data.
[07:15] <x_or> Does the ubuntu live CD have gparted or parted?
[07:15] <kip> whats diffrent about kubuntu
[07:15] <nickrud> x_or: both, dsl has parted according to the list
[07:15] <LiveCD> hi
[07:16] <HymnToLife> x_or> the /boot partition needs to be at the very beginning of the drive
[07:16] <Goldfisch> kip: Based on KDE instead of GNOME.
[07:16] <GigaClon> kip, kubuntu has KDE instead of GNOME
[07:16] <kip> just that?
[07:16] <x_or> Yep, and I think this was the problem.
[07:16] <GigaClon> !kubuntu
[07:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:16] <no_gatez_fan> ? i have my display in monitor adjusted all the way to the left, and it still needs to be adjusted a tad left still, anywhere i can move it over futher...or see what monitor driver and video card driver is loaded? (base system installed only)
[07:16] <x_or> nickrud: OK, will check out dsl.
[07:17] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  try xvidtune
[07:17] <no_gatez_fan> from a ssh?
[07:17] <LiveCD> my brother's FAT32 filesystem seems to have failed. i'm currently using the Ubuntu Live CD on his computer. how can i recover files from the filesystem?
[07:18] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  you mean from a command line?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> LiveCD,  got a spare pc networked?
[07:18] <no_gatez_fan> yewa
[07:18] <no_gatez_fan> yes
[07:18] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak postgreesql had ide?
[07:18] <LiveCD> Dr_Willis, yes. the spare pc is running the full Ubuntu Breezy
[07:18] <O_Rei_do_Gado> or is only by commadn line?
[07:19] <wastrel> yes xvidtune is run at the command line
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> LiveCD,  make a samba share on it. and mount/copy the files over to it.
[07:19] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, there are some graphical database administration tools yes
[07:19] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, or you can use command line
[07:19] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i like grafical
[07:19] <Goldfisch> LiveCD: If you have a flash drive, another option is to mount it and copy off to flash.
[07:19] <kip> can i control remotly on windows machine?
[07:19] <O_Rei_do_Gado> like access
[07:19] <O_Rei_do_Gado> :)
[07:19] <Goldfisch> kip: vnc
[07:19] <kip> huh?
[07:19] <Goldfisch> !vnc
[07:19] <ubotu> hmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> kip,  i tend to use VNC for that task
[07:20] <LiveCD> Dr_Willis, but in /dev, there is only a hda, not a hda1. when i try to boot my brother's computer using the hard drive. it says "Operating System not found".
[07:20] <nazgulwalker> can someone help me to find file drscheme for ubuntu AMD64??
[07:20] <LiveCD> Goldfisch, read last post
[07:20] <Goldfisch> LiveCD: I thought you were running his machine from the Live CD?
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.1.3/win32/ what is the link to use that 1st on windows?
[07:21] <tyler> why is it that an avi file cannot be played .. only thing that appears is....rainbow colored screen
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> LiveCD,  could be the HD is totally messed.
[07:21] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I don't understand the question
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> what is the link i chosse
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ?
[07:21] <O_Rei_do_Gado> http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/binary/v8.1.3/win32/
[07:22] <O_Rei_do_Gado> there many...
[07:22] <nickrud> nazgulwalker: according to packages.ubuntu.com, it's in universe on the amd64
[07:22] <Goldfisch> LiveCD: The basics are: 1) boot up the machine from some live CD, be it ubuntu, dsl, knopiix, whatever. 2) mount the "bad" hard drive 3) either copy the files to another networked machine or to a locally mounted flash drive. 4) power down 5) replace hard drive
[07:22] <kip> willis
[07:23] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, are you installing on ubuntu?
[07:23] <O_Rei_do_Gado> after i tryed in windows
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> kip
[07:23] <kip> how can i access my c:
[07:23] <O_Rei_do_Gado> with odbc tests
[07:23] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, oh
[07:23] <kip> it wont show my hda
[07:23] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, then you want the win32 version
[07:23] <O_Rei_do_Gado> yes fisrt,,,
[07:24] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok
[07:24] <O_Rei_do_Gado> i have
[07:24] <nickrud> !enter
[07:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> kip,  use 'mount' to see if its mounte, and 'fdisk -l' to see what partitions are on it.. and perhaps mounti it manually if you need to
[07:24] <O_Rei_do_Gado> 21m
[07:24] <k31th> Anyone looking for webhosting or a remote box running ubuntu or any other distro 99.9% uptime
[07:24] <kip> willis slowly
[07:24] <polpak> O_Rei_do_Gado, I don't use windows, so I can't really help with the install of it on that platform. But if you have questions once it's installed I can try to help
[07:24] <pjz> does ubuntu-live support a dualheaded setup?
[07:25] <tomeklu> hi all
[07:25] <O_Rei_do_Gado> ok polpak
[07:25] <kip> im just starting in linux
[07:25] <O_Rei_do_Gado> thanks polpak!
[07:25] <dv_> hm is there an editor that supports workspaces?
[07:26] <andre> kip your not the only one i started lastweek
[07:26] <Goldfisch> kip: To read the details for any of these commands people throw at you, there are online manual pages. Type "man <command", and you will get details. So when people mention "mount" and "fdisk", you can always later look up "man mount" and "man fdisk" to re-read what they were talking about.
[07:26] <gopi> What does this command do? sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./
[07:26] <dv_> not only multi-file support, but also workspaces that contain which files are opened? like the projects in quanta
[07:26] <O_Rei_do_Gado> at the moment polpak i use ms access database :(
[07:26] <Remenic> did something change about iptables?
[07:26] <redguy> dv_: kate?
[07:26] <LethalSword> Enthusiast78 did you find the link?
[07:26] <Remenic> it says that no modules are loaded for iptables... it worked before I rebooted!
[07:26] <redguy> dv_: kate has sessions
[07:26] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: 5 or 6 year using msaccess database
[07:26] <nickrud> gopi: it moves the file from your home directory to the directory you're working in
[07:26] <LethalSword> !winex
[07:26] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LethalSword
[07:27] <mlalkaka> highvoltage, i'm LiveCD
[07:27] <dv_> oh cool thanks
[07:27] <dv_> and, some non-kde ones? :)
[07:27] <gopi> nickrud: ok thx
[07:27] <dv_> some machines here dont have kde
[07:27] <Kezzer> wooo, I'm now working from Ubuntu, now I just need to get XGL installed, although I doubt I'll succeed
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> winex is the old name for Cedega
[07:27] <highvoltage> mlalkaka: you are?
[07:28] <nickrud> !xgl
[07:28] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:28] <highvoltage> mlalkaka: I'm a human.
[07:28] <nickrud> Kezzer: xgl isn't hard, the link should work for you
[07:28] <kip> !mount
[07:28] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:28] <redguy> Kezzer: xgl is only available in dapper, join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussions
[07:28] <warthawg> speaking of hard, what is the best solution for running 32 bit apps on ubu 64?
[07:29] <mlalkaka> highvoltage, lol. i mean that there is another person in this channel named LiveCD, but that is the same person as me.
[07:29] <kip> im lost
[07:29] <no_gatez_fan> wastrel/ is says cannot open display
[07:29] <nickrud> warthawg: running 32bit apps from inside a chroot
[07:29] <LethalSword> !tell lethalsword about winex
[07:29] <Linuxhelp> hi guys does anyone knows why swat in ubuntu do not work??
[07:29] <andre> my partitions are on my desktop but how do i change permissions when i attempt to access it, give me a permissions stuff
[07:29] <jimcooncat> mlalkaka, I think I'm dyslescksik now
[07:29] <highvoltage> mlalkaka: aah
[07:30] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  you're running X?  or just console
[07:30] <warthawg> nickrud:  yechhh
[07:30] <kip> linuxhelp
[07:30] <no_gatez_fan> tried it both ways wastrel
[07:30] <kip> its linux not windows
[07:30] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, so is it possible to recover files from the damaged filesystem?
[07:30] <warthawg> what do you need, kip
[07:30] <LethalSword> !windows games
[07:30] <ubotu> LethalSword: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:30] <LethalSword> does anybody know the download link for winex?
[07:31] <Linuxhelp> haha
[07:31] <dv_> LethalSword, it costs
[07:31] <dv_> its not free
[07:31] <void^> LethalSword: winex is cedega
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  of course its 'possible' - but  may not be easy
[07:31] <GigaClon> google is your friend
[07:31] <jimcooncat> !cedega
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  winex is the old name for cegedg
[07:31] <Linuxhelp> on debian install is easy
[07:31] <LethalSword> is there a free alternative?
[07:31] <dv_> no
[07:31] <void^> LethalSword: wine
[07:31] <redguy> yes, wine
[07:31] <dv_> wine is not suited for games
[07:31] <warthawg> i would really like to watch march madness on cbssports online, anyone doing that on ubuntu?
[07:31] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, do you know how?
[07:31] <LethalSword> wine can play games?
[07:31] <void^> dv_: windows is suited for windows games
[07:31] <GigaClon> wine can play some games
[07:31] <dv_> void^, try playing 3d games with it
[07:31] <wastrel> no_gatez_fan:  xvidtune should work if you run it from X, perhaps you need to use sudo
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  depends on the file system you are trying to recover.
[07:31] <LethalSword> void^ can wine play windows games?
[07:31] <bkf> quit
[07:32] <GigaClon> like minesweeper
[07:32] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, fat32
[07:32] <void^> dv_: most of 3d games developed for windows run fine on windows
[07:32] <no_gatez_fan> wastrel/ i giv it a shot
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> the latest wine can play Many of the new games i hear.
[07:32] <GigaClon> LethalSword, which games?
[07:32] <void^> LethalSword: i play hearts of iron 2 with it
[07:32] <kip> warth
[07:32] <kip> look your pm
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  google for 'fat32 recovery linux' - would be a start
[07:32] <LethalSword> so i can play windows games with 3d acceleration
[07:32] <LethalSword> ?
 dv_: most of 3d games developed for windows run fine on windows <- ahem
[07:32] <Chodder> lol
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  depends on the game.
[07:33] <Chodder> i was questioning that myself
[07:33] <warthawg> kip i don't have any pm from you
[07:33] <kip> in irc'
[07:33] <void^> dv_: okay, the really badly coded ones don't ever run fine
[07:33] <LethalSword> can i install direct on linux through crossover office?
[07:33] <LethalSword> directx?
[07:33] <p01n7> OmegaAlpha, whats up
[07:33] <nazgulwalker> can someone send me /etc/apt/sources.list who use amd64 ubuntu 5.10 breezy , and have no problem with apt-get(Thanks);
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  you do NOT install 'directx' :P
[07:33] <Chodder> WineX
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  but if you really want to.. go ahead and try...
[07:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell nazgulwalker about easysource
[07:33] <gnomefreak> LethalSword: you use wine and run it with whatever else your running
[07:33] <dv_> but try playing deus ex 2, or half life 2, doom 3, battlefield 2, X 3, deus ex 1, unreal 2, fear, system shock 2, avp2 in wine
[07:34] <void^> LethalSword: seriously, don't try running your windows 3d games or whatever on linux when you're new to linux.
[07:34] <dv_> you need cedega for those, not wine
[07:34] <LethalSword> but i wanna play my gaaames
[07:34] <LethalSword> and cedega costs money
[07:34] <dv_> i want to see fear working with wine
[07:34] <void^> dv_: look at what i said?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  so....
[07:34] <Chodder> dv_, you can play HL2 in wine
[07:34] <gnomefreak> LethalSword: dual boot ;)
[07:34] <_jason> LethalSword: either load windows or buy cedega
[07:34] <thelsdj> is there a jabber client in ubuntu repositories that can subscribe to other network gateway transports? (yes i know i can use gaim to be on multiple networks, but i have to test jabber transports for work)
[07:34] <Chodder> You just need to set it up correctly
[07:34] <dv_> void^, its not bad code
[07:34] <warthawg> there you go, naz
[07:34] <LethalSword> if i get windows ill be hacked again
[07:34] <warthawg> nazgulwalker, that is
[07:34] <dv_> wine does not have shader support, it lacks dx9
[07:35] <nazgulwalker> thank you very much
[07:35] <LethalSword> lol the directx setup just froze
[07:35] <gnomefreak> LethalSword: what stopping people from hacking you now?
[07:35] <dv_> LethalSword, thats why I dualboot
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  quit runnign the junk that gets you hazored in windows.
[07:35] <Chodder> dv_, If I can play CS source in normal wine with a few mods done to it, im sure I could play HL2
[07:35] <dv_> even with cedega many games dont run ok
[07:35] <void^> dv_: no, i said < void^> dv_: windows is suited for windows games, you replied with < dv_> void^, try playing 3d games with it <- some misunderstanding there
[07:35] <LethalSword> i wasnt running anything hazordous Dr_Willis
[07:35] <dv_> void^, well ok, most 2d games run fine
[07:36] <kip> seem too that itd yes lethal
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  sure.... whatever.. :P i bet you updated everything all the time as well.
[07:36] <GigaClon> your running windows LethalSword thats hazardous enough
[07:36] <dv_> but if someone wants to play windows games, on most occasions they mean 3d games
[07:36] <kip> dr most ppl dont do it
[07:36] <dv_> good old adventures are dead :/
[07:36] <LethalSword> Dr_willis i did update
[07:36] <p01n7>  zuokanyunqi, why do you join IRC as root?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> sp2 had a bunch of holes in it ;)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  looks like you got some Tough Choices to make.
[07:36] <LethalSword> yea
[07:36] <kip> GC dont say that
[07:36] <void^> dv_: "windows is suited for windows games" i said windows, not wine.
[07:36] <kip> dr
[07:36] <Chodder> I couldn't get chessmaster run good in wine but I could get CS Source running good
[07:36] <GigaClon> I dual boot
[07:37] <LethalSword> keep linux and play no games or install windows and risk getting hacked again
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Chessmaster :P lol.
[07:37] <GigaClon> you can play games in linux
[07:37] <kingspawn> I see no reason to struggle so immensely to get games to run under linux. Dual boot, if you must play.
[07:37] <dv_> LethalSword, if you want to play top-notch 3d stuff available for windows only then install both
[07:37] <GigaClon> http://www.happypenguin.org
[07:37] <kip> LS the choice is easy
[07:37] <dv_> and use windows mostly for playing
[07:37] <Chodder> Chessmaster is the shit, It beats out gnuchess by a mile
[07:37] <Chodder> :P
[07:37] <dv_> and ignore comments on you using windows.
[07:37] <kingspawn> then you have one os for using a computer, and one for playing a game
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> I can say that ive never had windows 'hacked' . :p but I try to be as secure as possible withit.
[07:37] <kip> i want a go game on linux
[07:37] <warthawg> what is chessmaster's rating?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> GnuGo
[07:38] <dv_> its *YOUR* choice, not theirs. so they can stick their barks where the sun doesnt shine.
[07:38] <Chodder> RTCW:ET
[07:38] <LethalSword> Dr_Willis what is the best firewall for windows?
[07:38] <kingspawn> and fritz beats chessmaster, and rybka beats fritz.
[07:38] <p01n7> Dr_Willis, you mean cracked, right?
[07:38] <warthawg> kip, even got a console go game for you
[07:38] <Chodder> Dr_Willis, GnuGO?
[07:38] <kip> how to install it
[07:38] <GigaClon> LeeJunFan, ZoneAlarm
[07:38] <void^> kip: gnugo with qgo
[07:38] <GigaClon> kip, google is your friend
[07:38] <wastrel> hello
[07:38] <timmy_> hello...
[07:38] <kip> willis
[07:38] <void^> kip: or play on kgs with cgoban2
[07:38] <p01n7> LethalSword, umm.. not the place ( #windows is ).. i say blackice
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  I tend to let my linksys router do the firewalling  needs.
[07:39] <LethalSword> Dr_Willis i was running a router
[07:39] <LethalSword> the hacker broke through it
[07:39] <kip> im fairly new so help me out
[07:39] <Chodder> LethalSword, more like you got loads of spyware
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  'prove' it.
[07:39] <azurehuesofblue> lol
[07:39] <no_gatez_fan> wastrel/ thanks
[07:39] <nickrud> LethalSword: I'm sure you can make windows not go on line, so no chance of spyware/hack whatever
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Chodder,  thats what i was getting at.
[07:39] <Chodder> Heh
[07:39] <louwill> to play psx in linux go here http://eric.halo43.com/linux_psx_emu.php
[07:39] <no_gatez_fan> very sensitive isnt it
[07:39] <kip> nick deplug the rj45 cable
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> psx emulation is good. :P
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> snes emulation is good.
[07:39] <Chodder> omg the spyware d00dz h4x0r'd my pUt3r
[07:39] <n3m3s1s_> why i have error "make" command not found
[07:40] <void^> amiga emulation is good :)
[07:40] <kip> i want ps2 emu
[07:40] <apokryphos> n3m3s1s_: install build-essential
[07:40] <Chodder> heh
[07:40] <Chodder> ps2 emu wouldnt run very efficent
[07:40] <gnomefreak> n3m3s1s_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:40] <kip> that will be long
[07:40] <n3m3s1s_> erf
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> void^,  i find winuae a little better under windows then uae under linux. same with Vice and WinVice.
[07:40] <n3m3s1s_> but my friend haven't connection
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Not tried the PS2 emulators.
[07:40] <warthawg> n3m3s1s:  what kind of wuss distro are you running that doesn't come with a build envorinment by default?  oh, wait a sec.
[07:41] <void^> Dr_Willis: yes, that's true.. i think the cloanto folks improved graphics performance :/
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> void^,  actually i dont think they did much :P its the winuae team that did the work
[07:42] <wastrel> what's winuae
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> void^,  that picasso driver stuff - seems to help a lot
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> wastrel,  Windows Version of the UAE amiga emulator
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> its amazing good.
[07:42] <Chodder> Anyone ever read this?
[07:42] <Chodder> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/leetspeak.mspx
[07:42] <void^> Dr_Willis: well whoever it was, they did a nice job =) should have ported it back to uae, though.
[07:42] <Absenth> is there a way to boost or tweak 3d performance with the "nvidia" driver?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> void^,  i think they some how are using the directx features. :(
[07:43] <void^> Dr_Willis: ambermoon on uae runs little better than on my old a500 :(
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> void^,  heh - it blows away my A1200
[07:44] <void^> hm, have to try again someday :)
[07:44] <louwill> How can I rip psx isos in linux?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> Chodder: please bring microsoft talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:45] <redguy> java
[07:45] <redguy> !java
[07:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:45] <nickrud> Absenth: you should have nvidia-settings available, don't know if it's what you want
[07:45] <louwill> to rip isos?
[07:45] <Chodder> gnomefreak, it wasnt microsoft talk, rather a funny link that has nothing to do with M$
[07:45] <Chodder> But ya ok...
[07:45] <kbrooks> Chodder, a link to a micriosoft site is still, technically talk about it
[07:45] <Chodder> People are to sensitive...
[07:46] <Absenth> nickrud, yeah,  doesn't quite cover what I was looking for, but a great tool none the less.
[07:46] <kbrooks> @ gnomefreak: it's the same  thing as posting a site with curse words.
[07:46] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:46] <djabel> ;]
[07:46] <kbrooks> you'renot swearing, but technically you are *through* the site
[07:46] <louwill> I want to know how to make psx iso image from disk in linux
[07:46] <Absenth> nickrud, using cedega on ubuntu breezy, WoW operates at less then 25 fps on an FX5900 Ultra.  in windows at much higher graphics settings I get closer to 75 fps.
[07:46] <GigaClon> k3b works
[07:47] <Absenth> nickrud, I suspect the driver just isn't as good :/
[07:47] <nickrud> !dualboot
[07:47] <ubotu> it has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:47] <nickrud> Absenth: :)
[07:47] <polpak> Absenth, did you pass the -opengl option to WoW?
[07:47] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, how about 15 out of 20?
[07:47] <Absenth> polpak, probibly not.....  I'll have to try that when I get home.
[07:48] <katarot> is there any other way to connect wlan to internet without router
[07:48] <louwill> what software makes isos in linux?
[07:48] <polpak> Absenth, it makes a big difference
[07:48] <louwill> hello
[07:48] <polpak> louwill, there's many
[07:48] <gnomefreak> !iso
[07:48] <ubotu> [iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:48] <Absenth> polpak, thanks for the tip....  that option forces D3D as the rendering option then?
[07:48] <jbroome> katarot: just set it outside and it will absorb the internet
[07:48] <Absenth> -option +engine
[07:49] <Absenth> jbroome, heh.......  :)
[07:49] <gnomefreak> louwill: make an iso is different than burning an iso
[07:49] <polpak> Absenth, no, it forces opengl rather than D3D.. Linux plays much nicer with opengl
[07:49] <Absenth> polpak, Ahhhh!  got it.;
[07:49] <polpak> Absenth, the same option can be used with Warcraft 3
[07:49] <katarot> what do what i did inside when i first got my router only this time i do it outside
[07:49] <louwill> I want a software to ripping a cd not to burn
[07:49] <polpak> Absenth, cause bliz was smart enough to develop for both graphic engines
[07:50] <JayR168> ubuntu will not start if I select MPS table to disable in my BIOS settings why?
[07:50] <louwill> what software works for that?
[07:50] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, i did the google search and it looks like all the programs run on windows, which is useless because i can't boot into windows and if i could, there would be no problem. i can't find a linux tool to fix a fat partition, which is understandable.
[07:50] <Absenth> polpak, I gather you've used cedega and a couple of the blizzard games semi-recently then :)
[07:50] <nickrud> louwill: you could try dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=1024
[07:50] <louwill> does'n work
[07:50] <polpak> Absenth, I used to.. I don't really play them anymore. Not a lot of free time =)
[07:50] <polpak> louwill, data cd or audio?
[07:51] <nickrud> louwill: copy protect then I would guess
[07:51] <mlalkaka> Dr_Willis, i did make a back up of the data a month ago, so i guess i will have to use that. thanks for helping. cya
[07:51] <louwill> psx cd
[07:51] <polpak> louwill, lol
[07:52] <polpak> louwill, no idea. You can try gnomebaker or k3b but I can't make any guarentees
[07:52] <pjz> does ubuntu-live support a dualheaded setup? I booted it and it saw the GeForce 5300 but not the Radeon 7000
[07:52] <louwill> ok thanks
[07:53] <JayR168> ubuntu will not start if I select MPS table to disable in my BIOS settings why?
[07:53] <katarot> emmm will that work if im no were near my router see i went away and took my laptop thinking that because it was set up to the router it would work after a while my internet cut off now im in my uncles house and on his computer and im still trying to set my laptop up to work with ubuntu
[07:53] <kbrooks> whoo.
[07:53] <JayR168> guys? what does MPS in bios do?
[07:53] <kbrooks> i have many applet goodies
[07:53] <gnomefreak> JayR168: ask the manufacturer of your motherboard?
[07:54] <GigaClon> JayR168, if it doesn't work then don't use that setting
[07:54] <kbrooks> um.
[07:54] <nickrud> JayR168: Multiprocessor Specification
[07:54] <kbrooks> firefox uses a big chunk of memory
[07:55] <kbrooks> 113.4 MiB !!!
[07:55] <JayR168> thanks
[07:55] <apokryphos> ff sucks :D
[07:55] <kbrooks> apokryphos, so what browser do you use?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> lynx
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:56] <apokryphos> kbrooks: Konqueror, or Opera on rare occassions.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> telnet
[07:56] <nickrud> if lynx doesn't render it, use nothing :)
[07:56] <nickrud> slooow
[07:56] <kingspawn> im an avid fan of links myself
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> lynx makes porn sites even dull..
[07:56] <apokryphos> konqueror is spee-edy; khtml rocks my socks.
[07:58] <apokryphos> nickrud: very easy to do in ubuntu :)
[07:59] <GlemSom> I still prefre links... It has frame support...
[07:59] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:59] <kbrooks> nickrud, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Done.
[07:59] <nickrud> apokryphos: true. Every time I try I like a lot, but i've been using gnome for so long I get totally frustrated with some differences
[08:00] <kbrooks> nickrud, like what a lot?
[08:00] <nickrud> kbrooks: konqueror's speed, for one
[08:00] <kbrooks> nickrud: what differences are you talking about?
[08:00] <linuxboyfriend> my friend installed ubuntu in his office, he was asking that apt is not downloading anyting? Also he told me that he used the same IP and Port in synaptic's networking settings! Can anyone tell me that what maybe the problem?
[08:00] <z33> I have an hda1 icon on my desktop, is that my winXP NTFS partition? When I open it, it says contents could not be displayed because I don't have permission.
[08:00] <nickrud> kbrooks: phone calls, I'm sorta at work
[08:01] <gnomefreak> konqueror has speed??????
[08:01] <kbrooks> nickrud, ?????????
[08:02] <kbrooks> nickrud, what are you talking about?
[08:02] <knorzelinchen> hi
[08:02] <gnomefreak> hi
[08:02] <knorzelinchen> everybody english speaking here?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> all of us
[08:02] <knorzelinchen> but why?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> ok most of us
[08:02] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: yes, it has a lot. More than firefox.
[08:02] <jke> how can i copy paste something from my machine to an ftp server, using the command line from an ubuntu livecd?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: there are other channels for other languages
[08:03] <knorzelinchen> where do you come from gnomefreak?
[08:03] <apokryphos> on all decent benchmark tests, khtml proves the better, in fact. It also uses like 10 ten times less code.
[08:03] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: you think that has speed try links2 ;)
[08:03] <polpak> jke, you can ftp from your machine to something else yes.
[08:03] <louwill> I speak english and spanish
[08:03] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: this is a support channel for ubuntu if you dont have an issue with ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:03] <polpak> jke, perhaps if you were more specific
[08:04] <knorzelinchen> ive got enough issues with ubuntu, be sure
[08:04] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: than lets see what we can do to fix your system
[08:04] <hoplaa> hello, i have a small problem with ubuntu & sound
[08:04] <jke> polpak: okay. i have an ftp server running on machine B. i want to copy some data to this ftp server from machine A. machine A is running the live cd :)
[08:05] <polpak> jke, ok, so just ftp it?
[08:05] <leku> hi
[08:05] <leku> I just upgraded to dapper and my KDED is crashing ike crazy
[08:05] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that apt error?
[08:05] <polpak> !dapper
[08:05] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[08:05] <hoplaa> I did a fresh install ubuntu 5.10 and now when I try to play anything with XMMS I dont hear a thing
[08:05] <apokryphos> linuxboyfriend: which one?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: what apt error?
[08:06] <jke> polpak: how do i do it?
[08:06] <GigaClon> leku, make sure its using the right output
[08:06] <hoplaa> I have configured it to use ALSA
[08:06] <ubuntu_kip> willis
[08:06] <gnomefreak> hoplaa: like are you trying to listen to mp3? or what?
[08:06] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hi, lemme copy-pate again :)
[08:06] <GigaClon> hoplaa killall esd again
[08:06] <hoplaa> mp3/cd whatever
[08:06] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: pastebin please
[08:07] <polpak> jke, is machine A running the live CD using X windows?
[08:07] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: my friend installed ubuntu in his office, he was asking that apt is not downloading anyting? Also he told me that he used the same IP and Port in synaptic's networking settings! Can anyone tell me that what maybe the problem?
[08:07] <jke> polpak: yes
[08:07] <gnomefreak> hoplaa: i ask because you need software to listen to mp3s
[08:07] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: he has teh wrong sources.list
[08:07] <jke> polpak: i need to move dir, put i didn't have any luck doing that with ftp & put
[08:07] <xsmogx> In everyone's opinion how are the default iptables rules?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[08:08] <hoplaa> i've installed all the needed ones i think, right now im trying to listen regular cd and i cant hear a thing
[08:08] <_jason> xsmogx: blank
[08:08] <_jason> :)
[08:08] <xsmogx> They come blank?
[08:08] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i think i should give him my sources.lst. OK?
[08:08] <GigaClon> hoplaa, check what output XMMS is using
[08:08] <hoplaa> ALSA
[08:08] <xsmogx> I have a ton of rules that I don't remember making.
[08:08] <hoplaa> i can hear the system sounds allright so
[08:08] <_jason> xsmogx: did you install firestarter or something?
[08:08] <GigaClon> hoplaa, change it to esd in XMMS
[08:08] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yes as long as he is using same version of ubuntu as you
[08:08] <feifongwong> http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161 <- :O
[08:08] <xsmogx> oh yeah I did
[08:08] <_jason> xsmogx: yeah, firestarter creates them
[08:09] <xsmogx> I see
[08:09] <xsmogx> how do you manage firestarter, command or gui?
[08:09] <hoplaa> nope, still nothing
[08:09] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: yes, we are using same 5.10 version (not virgin :)
[08:09] <gnomefreak> huh?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> i said version i hope :(
[08:09] <_jason> smog: firestarter is just a gui frontend for iptables
[08:09] <polpak> jke, you can just go to Places->Connect to Server and specify the FTP info there. Then just drag and drop from nautilus
[08:10] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: no, i was just joking :)
[08:10] <smog> How would I get to the gui?
[08:10] <hoplaa> if i use cd player which comes with gnome it plays ok
[08:10] <gnomefreak> oh good sorry
[08:10] <louwill> Do you know a Sega Master Sistem emulator in ubuntu?
[08:10] <_jason> smog: applications menu > system tools > firestarter
[08:10] <smog> Thank you Jason
[08:10] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: kindly help me in another problem http://pastebin.com/605940 this appear when my gnome starts
[08:10] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: must not have issues with ubuntu at all oh well brb
[08:10] <juanan> hola
[08:10] <juanan> hay alguien??
[08:10] <tru> is there a small image for doing network installations of drapper.
[08:10] <louwill> yo
[08:10] <_jason> !es
[08:10] <juanan> hola???
[08:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:11] <louwill> si yo
[08:11] <jke> polpak: thanks alot! works great :)
[08:11] <juanan> alguien me puede ayudar
[08:11] <juanan> es que soy nuevo en linux
[08:11] <_jason> juanan: type this: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:11] <louwill> hay un emulador de sega para Ubuntu?
[08:11] <_jason> louwill: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:11] <_Felix> hello people
[08:11] <juanan> y no tengo ni idea de como instalar programas ni nada
[08:11] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: ive seen that the other day cant for my life remember where (check launchpad bugs)
[08:11] <knorzelinchen> where do you come from @all
[08:11] <Tripke> belguim
[08:11] <gnomefreak> knorzelinchen: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:11] <komani-Niklas> germany
[08:12] <dozah`> Hi there
[08:12] <dozah`> anyone who can help me with the ubuntu installation ?
[08:12] <dozah`> im new to linux
[08:12] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i am trying to add my keyboard support but its not working :(
[08:12] <louwill> where is ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:12] <dozah`> and im kinda stuckk
[08:12] <GlemSom> I saw this guide on how to unstall wine on a Ubuntu system... but it does not work... apt-cache search does not know of wine... (this guide: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb):
[08:12] <_jason> louwill: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:12] <gnomefreak> louwill: #ubuntu-offtopic is a channel
[08:12] <polpak> !tell dozah` about anyone
[08:13] <juanan> alguien me puede abrir un privado para ayudarme con unos problemillas???
[08:13] <juanan> porfavor
[08:13] <_Felix> alguien -> someone :D
[08:13] <_Felix> me -> me
[08:13] <louwill> YO
[08:13] <polpak> dozah`, just ask your question.. If someone can answer they weill
[08:13] <Tripke> is someone using wifi on ubuntu ( device level one WPC0300 )
[08:13] <louwill> que tu quieres?
[08:13] <_jason> how do you say type in spanish?
[08:13] <Tripke> is someone using wifi on ubuntu ( device level one WPC0300 )
[08:13] <juanan> <louwill
[08:13] <polpak> !es
[08:13] <_Felix> :DDD
[08:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:13] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: i saw it somewhere i just wish im able to tell you where but i know its big on thier llist iirc
[08:13] <_Felix> no idea
[08:13] <juanan> sorry
[08:13] <gnomefreak> now brb
[08:13] <juanan> esk aki me lio
[08:13] <louwill> ok voy pa ubuntu es
[08:13] <juanan> veras no tengo ni idea de linux
[08:14] <juanan> ubuntu es???
[08:14] <_Felix> porvafor
[08:14] <_jason> please only english here.  Spanish in #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <_Felix> #Ubuntu-ES
[08:14] <polpak> please join #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <louwill> vamos pa ubuntu es que nos botaron
[08:14] <juanan> como voy???
[08:14] <_Felix> Vamons, muchachos, mano a mano
[08:14] <juanan> ese es el problema
[08:14] <_Felix> dum dum
[08:14] <_Felix> je ne comprend!
[08:14] <kbrooks> why is the ubuntu site down?
[08:14] <_Felix> KICK HIM!!!
[08:14] <louwill> right click en #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <_Felix> lol
[08:15] <_Felix> alguien paste a screenshot :D
[08:15] <ubuntu_kip> can someone help me
[08:15] <_Felix> or a video
[08:15] <Jhair> juanan, don't write in spanish, stop
[08:15] <jke> now, let the transfer of my gnometris scores begin :P
[08:15] <GlemSom> Anyone know how to install WINE under Ubuntu 64bit?
[08:15] <cors> kbrooks: The Ubuntu site isn't down from here
[08:15] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[08:15] <juanan> ey please i need help
[08:15] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak what is  contrib module in postgree instalation?
[08:15] <Jhair> juanan: go to #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <ubuntu_kip> how can 8i transfer the preference of ubuntu to a otjher ubuntu
[08:16] <juanan> i am spanish and i don not want to speak in other language
[08:16] <_Felix> and you'd like a kicK?
[08:16] <_jason> juanan: write this: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <HymnToLife> !es
[08:16] <polpak> juanan, that's fine. join the ubuntu-es channel
[08:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:16] <juanan> where???
[08:16] <_Felix> l o  l
[08:16] <Jhair> *sigh*
[08:16] <_jason> juanan: same place your wrote ``where???''
[08:16] <nickrud> !es
[08:16] <HymnToLife> juanan> type /join #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <juanan> ahmmm
[08:16] <juanan> jajaja
[08:16] <juanan> sorry
[08:16] <juanan> well thanks
[08:16] <ubuntu_kip> juanan youve been told to go to the espagnol chan
[08:16] <juanan> sorry
[08:16] <_Felix> you shouldnt be using linux if you dont know how to use irc client.. . ;)
[08:17] <kingspawn> ubuntu_kip: with great hassle, i would believe. probably easier to just set it up the way you like
[08:17] <ikaros> =)
[08:17] <juanan> #ubuntu-es
[08:17] <polpak> juanan,  you forgot the /join
[08:17] <louwill> dont believe it
[08:17] <ubuntu_kip> king it beacuse im formating it
[08:17] <nickrud> _Felix: now wait a minute, I ran linux for 4 years before I ever opened an irc client ;)
[08:17] <truz24> polpak, ever get the feeling he is just messing around?
[08:17] <polpak> truz24, yes
[08:17] <dozah> well ive made a partition for linux with partition magic and now im tryin to install ubuntu.
[08:17] <dozah> .i come to the partition and formatin side and it says...no root file system defined
[08:17] <g0dchild> Hi, what am I getting this error? "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 23911 package `karamba':
[08:17] <_Felix> =D
[08:17] <g0dchild>  missing version
[08:17] <g0dchild> "
[08:18] <jke> could anybopdy have an idea why there are some files i cant copy? they all ahve some "not normal" ext. like .dll or .acm
[08:18] <_Felix> i cant connect to the internet with my WinModem!!!
[08:18] <sEbaKiLLeR> hi!
[08:18] <_Felix> tried LOADS of stuff... :(
[08:18] <kbrooks> _Felix, don't use them.
[08:18] <ubuntu_kip> cd burner
[08:18] <g0dchild> darn...i am sorry bout the extra lines- :(
[08:18] <_Felix> it's silly... :(
[08:18] <polpak> dozah, you need to choose a partition to mount to /
[08:18] <O_Rei_do_Gado> polpak: what is  contrib modules during in postgree instalation?
[08:18] <HedgeMage> _Felix: very few of them will work under Linux, and only after lots of headbangig
[08:18] <gnomefreak> jke: what do you mean they have .dll? .dll isnt for linux
[08:19] <ubuntu_kip> why my cursor beacame black
[08:19] <sEbaKiLLeR> somebody can help me with nvidia drivers??
[08:19] <_Felix> sm56
[08:19] <ktogias> Hi, is there any tool or recomended way to download updates for breezy from a pc with different os in order to update a breezy system with no internet access?
[08:19] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell sEbaKiLLeR about nvidia
[08:19] <g0dchild> so how bout it everyone? why am i getting this dpkg error about some parse line?
[08:19] <dozah> polpak well what should i choose ? journalsomething filesystem ext3 ?
[08:19] <g0dchild> cant I force it to install azureus?
[08:19] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell g0dchild about azureus
[08:19] <leku_> hey how do I change my resolution in xorg?
[08:20] <_Felix> The problem is i have gcc 4, and hack compiles at 3 and 2. :/
[08:20] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell leku_ about fixres
[08:20] <ubuntu_kip> eerr
[08:20] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: dont force it read the instructions for it
[08:20] <leku_> I changed everything that said 1024x768 to 1280x1024 and restarted X
[08:20] <g0dchild> _jason, - heh. i am following those instructions. :)
[08:20] <_jason> oops
[08:20] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: you aren't ubotu :)
[08:20] <sEbaKiLLeR> simply i cant install the drivers!
[08:20] <gnomefreak> _Felix: sudo apt-get isntaoo gcc-3.4
[08:20] <leku_> but xdpyinfo says i'm still in 1024x768
[08:20] <g0dchild> alright...lemme see if i missed anyth
[08:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell leku_ about fixres
[08:20] <mephis1987> hello
[08:20] <leku_> thx
[08:20] <ubuntu_kip> !fixres
[08:20] <mephis1987> i cant configure my source file
[08:20] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:20] <tale_> leku_, you can select it from the preferences->screen resolution section
[08:20] <ubuntu_kip> !azerus
[08:21] <ubotu> ubuntu_kip: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: maybe you are...
[08:21] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: did you install java first and did you use update-altenatives?
[08:21] <dozah> well what should i choose ? journalsomething filesystem ext3 ?
[08:21] <ubuntu_kip> !nvidia
[08:21] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:21] <leku_> i'm so dissapointed that i upgraded to dapper
[08:21] <gnomefreak> alternitives even
[08:21] <ubuntu_kip> here you go
[08:21] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: sorry about that :)
[08:21] <mephis1987> !configure
[08:21] <ubotu> mephis1987: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: see nvidia link above^
[08:21] <sEbaKiLLeR> ok
[08:21] <sEbaKiLLeR> ty
[08:21] <ron_> mbr gone help please :/
[08:22] <g0dchild> gnome-freak- nope- not that i know of...although i am downloading the upgrades right now-
[08:22] <ubuntu_kip> jason no prob
[08:22] <jke> gnomefreak: well, i can have dll's anyway :)
[08:22] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: you have to install java first before you can install that
[08:22] <xcel> hi!
[08:23] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, could it be the version- i am still using 5.04
[08:23] <xcel> i've got a prob... when i "apt-get install fluxbox" or ftpd or whatever it doesn'ot work
[08:23] <gnomefreak> jke: yes you can have .dlls but ubuntu doesnt support .dll for anything
[08:23] <xcel> my friend told me to: ask in #ubuntu on freenode for better repositories
[08:23] <Tomcat_> gnomefreak: xine does. ;D
[08:23] <gnomefreak> xcel: what is the error?
[08:23] <jke> gnome-freak: I think i used them to some rdriver issue... og wine? dont really remember
[08:23] <xcel> gnomefreak, "can fint the package"
[08:23] <xcel> *find
[08:23] <nickrud> !tell xcel about repos
[08:24] <g0dchild> alright- gnomefreak  - thanks. see ya round later
[08:24] <_Felix> repositories
[08:24] <gnomefreak> Tomcat_: the only package in ubuntu that has .dll is the codecs and they are not supported by ubuntu
[08:24] <Tomcat_> gnomefreak: Yep.
[08:24] <xcel> !easysource
[08:24] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:25] <nickrud> xcel: a good method for sources
[08:25] <jort> hello i'm new
[08:25] <jaye> is there a way to upgrade to the drake from a breezy install using apt-get?
[08:25] <Fawzib> I have a question about start-stop-daemon. I'm running a java programs as a daemon and I want the stdout to be redirected to a file, im using 'start-stop-daemon --quiet --background --start --exec APP -- PARAM1 PARAM2 > logfile 2>&1' but it isnt working. How should I do it?
[08:25] <FlimFlamMan> so.....  could someone explain to me what "bling" is in the Ubuntu context?
[08:25] <jort> anybody know how to open a .run file?
[08:25] <_jason> jaye: yes, do you know dapper is still in development?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> jort: sh file.run
[08:25] <nickrud> jaye: replace breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list , then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:26] <jort> in terminal?
[08:26] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: how can i associate different extensions in gnome to different softwares?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> jort: yes
[08:26] <jort> thx m8
[08:26] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: explain
[08:26] <ron_> mbr gone help please :/
[08:26] <gnomefreak> jort: yw
[08:26] <jaye> _jason: yes I just don't feel like starting from scratch with one of my testing boxes
[08:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ron_ about grub
[08:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell jaye about upgrade
[08:26] <jaye> nickrud: thank you
[08:26] <sEbaKiLLeR> thank u very much!!!
[08:26] <gnomefreak> jaye: use the upgrade tool please
[08:26] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[08:26] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[08:26] <_jason> jaye: you can test the upgrader or follow the same instructions as the breezy upgrade (but replace breezy with dapper of course)
[08:27] <jaye> _jason: thanks
[08:27] <nickrud> I didn't know the upgrade factoid had changed ;(
[08:27] <Fawzib> anyone?
[08:27] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: when i click a .rm file it tries to open with totem but i wanna open it with realplayer, this mostly happens when i try to play my intenet radio
[08:28] <Jhair> Fawzib: what do you mean isn't working. I tried it now and got the log file...
[08:28] <xcel> what shall i do with deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted ? i'm i really noob, thoght it was to just apt-get everthing :-(
[08:28] <Absenth> which nvidia driver is currently in apt?
[08:28] <jke> have nobody else gotten the "unsupported operation while copying: xxxxx" using nautilus?
[08:28] <Fawzib> u did? i only get an empty file
[08:28] <Jhair> Fawzib: which daemon are you trying to start?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: right click the file got o properties you should beable to change what it opens with in there
[08:28] <jort> jort@asus:~$ sh ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:28] <jort> sh: ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run: Unknown file of map
[08:28] <Fawzib> cocoon
[08:28] <nickrud> xcel: leave that be; remove the # from lines 19 & 20, and add multiverse to the ends of those lines
[08:28] <Lutany> file ./home/jort/Desktop/downloads/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:28] <gnomefreak> jort: sh foo.run just the file name.run
[08:28] <Jhair> Fawzib: what does the log file where you redirected output say?
[08:29] <Fawzib> is always empty
[08:29] <jort> but the file is in a map on the desktop
[08:29] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: isn't there any module about it in control-centre or somewhere else?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> jort: cd Desktop than cd fileondesktop than sh file.run
[08:29] <Fawzib> Jhair: and I know cocoon prints stuff when you start it
[08:29] <wastrel> whole lot of nothing
[08:30] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: not sure my ubuntu doesnt come with a control ceter that i have seen
[08:30] <rambo3> its better to change ff to save hiles in user map
[08:30] <obli> is there any way of making the ctrl-alt combinations workas "alt Gr"  under ubuntu?
[08:30] <andre> have you guys tried 6.10 dapper yet
[08:30] <gnomefreak> andre: no such thing
[08:30] <gnomefreak> andre: 6.04
[08:31] <andre> dapper drake
[08:31] <Absenth> andre: it
[08:31] <wastrel> obli:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts   maybe
[08:31] <Absenth> 's "Installed" in a vmware virtual machine,  that's as far as I've gotten.
[08:31] <linuxboyfriend> ok
[08:31] <gnomefreak> andre: yes im using it
[08:31] <obli> they're not shortcuts, though
[08:31] <wastrel> some are
[08:31] <gnomefreak> obli: i think you have to make them
[08:31] <andre> how  is it
[08:31] <kingspawn> i have a question: is there any way to turn OFF graphical boot up?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> andre: can we please take this to #ubuntu+1
[08:31] <obli> on the swedish keyboard, @ is ctrl-alt-2, or alt gr-2
[08:31] <jort> thx u triggered a switch in my brain to run it :D
[08:31] <andre> sure
[08:32] <gnomefreak> ty andre
[08:32] <obli> so I have to make shortcuts for every single symbol that uses ctrl-alt combinations?
[08:33] <wastrel> kingspawn:  remove the "splash" boot optoin from your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:33] <nickrud> obli: sys-pref-keyboard , tab layout options
[08:33] <Jhair> Fawzib: are you running the command with sudo?
[08:33] <jke> any way i can copy files over ssh instead? (i am still running from the live cd)
[08:34] <wastrel> jke:  scp or sftp
[08:34] <Fawzib> Jhair: nope init script, it runs but the console.log file is always empty
[08:34] <Jhair> Fawzib: I just tried sudo start-stop-daemon --background --stop --exec `which apache` it works
[08:34] <Eubey> can someone tellme how to install emacs or any other php editor?
[08:34] <wastrel> jke:  scp source destination    for files on a remote host,  user@host:filename  (relative to homedir of user)
[08:34] <Fawzib> Jhair: let me check then...
[08:34] <Tripke> hello
[08:34] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:34] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:35] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:35] <jke> wastrel: thanks!
[08:35] <nickrud> Eubey: sudo aptitude install emacs21
[08:35] <jke> wastrel: does it work for a dir also?
[08:35] <Jhair> Fawzib: cocoon is a java application isn't it?
[08:35] <Tripke> hello
[08:35] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:35] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:35] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:36] <wastrel> jke:  no, you should tar up the file first
[08:36] <wastrel> er, the dir
[08:36] <ubuntu_kip> damn
[08:36] <Jonnings> Do any one know how to allow nordic characters in the XMMS playlist?
[08:36] <Fawzib> Jhair: yes, it is working but I wanted the stdout redirected, let me do some tests
[08:36] <ubuntu_kip> cant copy on my laptop
[08:36] <ubuntu_kip> it wont copy
[08:37] <obli> nickrud, there doesn't seem to be anything there about making leftctrl+leftalt = alt gr
[08:37] <Hoxzer> guys guys
[08:37] <Hoxzer> I cannnot open files in sftp server?
[08:37] <ubuntu_kip> FUCK
[08:37] <Hoxzer> how can I do it?
[08:37] <Tripke> chown it