[22:18] <|Long|> terry, let me try
[22:18] <alex88> hi guys, normally on netbook remix, how should i see network forlders and usb?
[22:19] <intrader> guntbert, ans what happens upon the auto-update? I think that the update has a problem with the new driver for nvidia.
[22:20] <giff> kriume, I can "make" must be on your end
[22:21] <giff> kriume, ls should read AUTHORS  ChangeLog  conkycolors  COPYING  fonts  Makefile  README  src if it doesn't you are in the wrong directory
[22:21] <guntbert> intrader: sorry, I didn't follow your problem, generally a new kernel doesn't replace the old one bit is added to the list - so you just select the old one again
[22:21] <oscar> hi all I can't see nor send webcam on amsn and the solutions posted on their site don't work any suggestions??
[22:21] <ct529> Hi!I need to draw the plan of a flat, with dimensions, and then do a 3D elevation. This time I would liket o do it on linux. Do you know of a package? I did some googliing but did not find an answer .... anyone with a clue?
[22:21] <kriume> giff: in this conky_colors folder i have no problems and here is makefile ok
[22:21] <kriume> :)
[22:22] <area51pilot> how do I repair a WUBI installation that wont boot
[22:22] <jrib> ct529: blender if you want 3d modelling software
[22:22] <slakc> DBAN'd (dodshort) two Maxtor 20GB IDE drives, have them setup on the same IDE cable in the 0 and 1 positions, ubuntu server 8.04 install disk is not detecting a loadable driver for them and asking me to choose, i have tried all the ide ones and the raid one as well, it is asking if I want to load one via fd0.. anyone?
[22:22] <slakc> I am shooting for software RAID 1
[22:23] <intrader> gunthert, thanks - let's wait and see. The startup manage has selected the kernel that works. 'The Newsr one" does not work because of a problem with nvidia
[22:23] <terry> slakc: fd0 is probably not going to do you any good.
[22:23] <suicidolt> what's an alternative to unetbootin
[22:24] <terry> slakc: You can't upgrade to newer version?
[22:24] <kriume> giff: i followed rest of the guide, but when i come to "make install" i cant install and i get error: ""mkdir: can not create directory "/ usr / share / fonts / TTF": Do not access
[22:24] <giff> kriume, you need to sudo  that
[22:24] <kriume> giff: sudo make install then?
[22:24] <giff> yes
[22:25] <alex88> hi guys, normally on netbook remix, how should i see network forlders and usb?
[22:25] <guntbert> intrader: be confident, there will be nothing that you cannot get around from the grub menu (do you see it every time you boot?)
[22:25] <slakc> terry: this is a new install and the installer is adking me to install the hard disk driver with a floppy disk to continue the installation and read/write to the disks
[22:26] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:26] <intrader> gunthert, yes, but that is Ok since I changed the default
[22:26] <kriume> giff: ok everything went fine now, but when i start conky now i still have the old shitty conky look
[22:26] <guntbert> !tab | intrader :)
[22:27] <kermit> when i aptitude remove something, what is the {u} next to some of the package names?
[22:27] <guntbert> intrader: yes, I always want to see the grub menu
[22:27] <intrader> guntbert, does not work with charzilla
[22:27] <kriume> giff: i did everything right from this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html
[22:27] <intrader> guntbert, chatzilla I meant
[22:28] <guntbert> intrader: it certainly does, but it is no real problem either :)
[22:29] <johnny77> How do I remove a image from my grub menu? My /etc/default/grub file does not specify a background, but one appears.
[22:29] <giff> kriume, did you start conky or conky-colors?
[22:29] <intrader> guntbert: yes it does but there must be more than one gun... Thanks
[22:29] <kriume> giff: conky, like it says in the guide
[22:29] <guntbert> intrader: then press <tab> several times :-)
[22:29] <giff> kriume, what about step 4 b?
[22:30] <prappl93> How do I sync music to my iPod Touch 4th Generation with iOS4.3?
[22:30] <intrader> guntbert: yes, thanks
[22:30] <guntbert> intrader: :)
[22:30] <kriume> giff: i dident do that one yet, because it doesent seem to work anyway :S
[22:30] <giff> kriume, then there is an error somewhere above
[22:30] <kriume> giff: u think it will work if i do that?
[22:31] <abdi> I'm sorry I is disturbing but not available here German-language chat
[22:31] <kriume> giff: meaybe restart, or try to reinstall ?
[22:31] <ijfisdjfioj> Hey
[22:31] <ijfisdjfioj> I'm looking for help running Oblivion on Ubuntu 10.10
[22:31] <giff> kriume, log out should suffice but I doubt it's that, you really should be able to start the conky you just compiled in your home
[22:32] <umbunt> people ubuntu didnt make the 10.04 64bit upgrade easy for me let me tell you.
[22:32] <giff> kriume, killall conky
[22:32] <kriume> giff: i did that too
[22:32] <jrib> umbunt: hmm?  Do you have a support question? :)
[22:32] <kriume> giff: and tried to restart conky again, many times
[22:33] <umbunt> i think i got it all figured but thanks.
[22:33] <jrib> umbunt: ok, keep in mind this channel is for support
[22:33] <kriume> giff: but ill try to killall conky now and try to reistall from the conky colors
[22:33] <umbunt> be on standby
[22:33] <umbunt> i know im listening
[22:33] <guntbert> !de | abdi
[22:33] <rony> hi
[22:34] <cha0s2358> how do I upgrade my firefox version via terminal so as to not lose all my bookmarks and such
[22:34] <jrib> cha0s2358: update-manager handles upgrading of packages.  What do you want to accomplish exactly?
[22:35] <abhishek> hi
[22:35] <cha0s2358> jrib i tried update manager but it didn't install the new firefox 4 i'm still running version 3.6.16
[22:35] <jrib> !firefox4 | cha0s2358
[22:36] <cha0s2358> jrib thank you
[22:36] <umbunt> this is not a support question but why is 64 bit so much more buggy than 32 bit?
[22:36] <jrib> umbunt: how is it more buggy?
[22:36] <red> i've had no probs with 64bit
[22:36] <umbunt> it seems tempermental to me
[22:37] <jbatista> !latest
[22:37] <jrib> ubottu: too vague
[22:37] <jrib> umbunt: too vague
[22:37] <jbatista> !backports
[22:37] <kriume> giff: i tried to relog user  and its still not working, i know i installed conky colors right and all.... do u have any idea about why its not working?
[22:37] <umbunt> it doesnt like stuff
[22:37] <LjL> jrib: no criticizing ubottu
[22:37] <license2grill> I'm running Maverick 64Bit no prob on my XPS 16
[22:37] <jbatista> !packaging
[22:37] <jrib> LjL: ubottu knows I only tease him playfully!
[22:37] <jbatista> !sru
[22:38] <jbatista> !ubottu
[22:38] <ijfisdjfioj> err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x137bdbf4 "dsoundrender.c: DSoundRenderImpl.csFilter" wait timed out in thread 001d, blocked by 0025, retrying (60 sec)
[22:38] <ijfisdjfioj> That's my problem
[22:38] <umbunt> but its working now so good
[22:38] <ijfisdjfioj> It's the output of wine while trying to start a new Oblivion game
[22:39] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:39] <James1293> Hey everyone! My HDD with ubuntu on it is really small, and I'm trying to move some of the stuff to my external harddrive. Can I safely use this guide http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ to move folders other than the home folder to the external hard drive?
[22:39] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. I am looking for a good screen recorder (with gui) for ubuntu. Can you guys recommend any? I have tried tibesti and kazam, neither worked for me properly
[22:39] <_numbers> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and did updates. then i rebooted it was fine. i installed some more software. now when i reboot i am stuck in a memtest loop
[22:39] <_numbers> memtest completes 100% successful, machine reboots, memtest begins again
[22:40] <_numbers> i dont even see the grub menu to choose ubuntu
[22:40] <_numbers> any ideas?
[22:40] <old_keyboard> If I change /etc/motd does it update the system info after a kernel update?
[22:40] <ct529> jrib: mmmm .... I need real dimensions to give to the builder
[22:40] <ct529> jrib: so blender does not seem to be an option
[22:40] <abhishek> old_keyboard ya
[22:41] <umbunt> i was just making the point that you seem to have less functionality with 64bit in my oppinion , but i dont really know anything so boooo
[22:41] <jrib> ct529: if you know of a windows option you might try searching specifically for a linux alternative to that option
[22:41] <jbatista> ChrisBuchholz on the console do apt-cache search record | grep screen
[22:41] <old_keyboard> abhishek: so I need to change it everytime kernel updates?
[22:41] <ct529> jrib: like autocad?
[22:41] <abhishek> no nt really
[22:41] <license2grill> James1293: stuff like that is never "safe".  It writes out "uname -snrvm" to /var/run/motd (/etc/motd is a symbolic link to /var/run/motd) and then adds the text from /etc/motd.tail"
[22:43] <umbunt> is the 64 bit version safer from viruses/malware?
[22:43] <old_keyboard> no it's same as 32
[22:43] <James1293> license2grill, del_diablo: would it be safer to move the entire installation to another partition, or more problematic?
[22:43] <old_keyboard> no virus.
[22:44] <boone> can someone please help me with a game installation?
[22:44] <kriume> giff: that just opened the default black and white conky
[22:44] <old_keyboard> umbunt: use 64bit if you have more than 3.2 GB of RAM
[22:44] <jrib> old_keyboard: have you read « man update-motd »? I think that's standard on ubuntu nowadays
[22:44] <edbian> umbunt, No.  But 32 bit is still remarkably safe compared to windows
[22:44] <old_keyboard> jrib: ty
[22:44] <del_diablo> James1293: Equally problematic and safe. I recommend to run cp -r / *externla hd* and then fixing up fstab and grub,
[22:44] <umbunt> just wondering
[22:44] <edbian> umbunt, :)
[22:44] <the_core> terry,you got a minute?
[22:45] <giff> kriume, you may need to adapt the thing after -c so it actually points to the correct file, running conky-colors gives you the path anyway ;)
[22:45] <umbunt> 3.2 g huh wow im not even close
[22:45] <ct529> jrib: not really, qcad is 2D only
[22:45] <suicidolt> I work a lot with pdf character sheet with editable fields...is there any pdf viewer that can allow me to use those fields? so far I haven't found one
[22:45] <kriume> giff : i want to uinsall conky and reinsatall, how do i completly remove it?
[22:45] <del_diablo> James1293: Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD and this one: http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/topic/40971-how-to-setup-manage-your-fstab-for-auto-mounting/
[22:45] <packerboy256> boone: what game?  have you tried wine?
[22:45] <giff> kriume, why do you want to do that?
[22:45] <edbian> umbunt, Yeah, that's the main advantage of 64bit OS / hardware
[22:45] <old_keyboard> jrib: On Ubuntu systems, /etc/motd is typically a symbolic link to /var/run/motd.
[22:45] <boone> I managed to install - Lord of the Rings Online game - However, it will not play
[22:45] <edbian> kriume, sudo apt-get purge conky
[22:45] <kriume> giff: because i think something is wrong
[22:46] <edbian> kriume, And it's probably safe to remove the hidden .conky folder in your home as well
[22:46] <packerboy256> boone: what does it do when you try to play?
[22:46] <del_diablo> James1293: And this one http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html too
[22:46] <giff> kriume, I think it works as intended... can you post the output of the conky-color command to a pastbin?
[22:46] <boone> It starts to load then just quits
[22:46] <kriume> giff: conky-color: command not found
[22:47] <kriume> edbian: what does that command do?
[22:47] <license2grill> James1293: I would recommend, if possible for you, to do a fresh installation and partition your system to your liking that way. When you are don, just copy your files where you want them. It's the easyer, safer way to go.
[22:47] <the_core> hello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my laptop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S
[22:47] <giff> kriume, what? did you sudo make install it?
[22:47] <kriume> giff: that what edbian said? no
[22:47] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:47] <edbian> kriume, purge (as opposed to remove) removes all the files placed by the installer instead of just most of them.  In particular /etc/* files which are config files
[22:47] <giff> kriume, ediban's command it will remove conky, mine installs conky-color
[22:48] <edbian> giff, I said apt-get purge instead of apt-get remove
[22:48] <giff> kriume, use mine...
[22:48] <SightUp> i am doing updates using the update manager, a lot of them are failing. why?
[22:48] <kriume> giff: wich one?
[22:48] <kriume> giff: wich command
[22:48] <umbunt> im running a 2 inch laptop drive with cheap addapter,2 maxtors set up for raid1 i, 2 512 kingstons RAM, ASUS k8-se,and a 512 radeon, and it seems to work oK.
[22:48] <edbian> kriume, giff Are why trying to remove conky or not?
[22:48] <giff> kriume, sudo make install
[22:48] <packerboy256> boone: you're using wine, right?
[22:48] <giff> edbian, no, we are trying to fix conky...
[22:48] <boone> Can this game be played on Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:49] <kriume> edbian: i am still trying to get it to work, it i will fail many times more i will remove it later and try to reinstall it, but not yet
[22:49] <giff> edbian, kriume thought deinstalling would somehow help to fix it
[22:49] <boone> yes I am using wine
[22:49] <edbian> giff, Oops!  sorry
[22:49] <edbian> kriume, I was only telling how to remove it.  I did not know the bigger goal.
[22:50] <packerboy256> boone: should be able to, according to this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=4891
[22:50] <theseb> help! *where* postfix puts errors? i can't find the log
[22:50] <packerboy256> strange
[22:50] <kriume> giff: sudo make install what? i have installed conky colors already
[22:50] <edbian> brb
[22:50] <kriume> edbian: thanks
[22:50] <boone> However, I do not know if I have anything setup right - very new to this OS
[22:50] <giff> kriume, I was just asking if you had; but why can't you execute it then?
[22:50] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:51] <giff> kriume, in the conky-clolors folder execute ./conky-colors
[22:51] <kriume> giff: i just ran the command again and it came output textm wait a sec and ill upload it
[22:51] <giff> kriume, help text I assume, then: ./conky-colors --theme=gnome-noble --lang=pt --cpu=4 --network --hd=default --pidgin
[22:52] <kriume> giff: http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/VBR
[22:52] <kriume> ok
[22:52] <giff> kriume, very good, so it works :D
[22:52] <boone> Thank you for the link - I will see what I can find there
[22:52] <the_core> hello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my laptop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S
[22:53] <old_keyboard> !botsnack
[22:53] <kriume> giff: but ./confy-colors dont work says No such file or filecataloge
[22:53] <giff> kriume, you mistyped it ;) conFy
[22:54] <xlogik> the_core: have you tried to reinstall?
[22:54] <the_core> xlogik: I am new to this,not sure what to do
[22:54] <kriume> giff: conky-colors doent work too
[22:54] <Felixia> Amaze
[22:54] <umbunt> if you have a 2 in laptop drive that spins at 4300 rpm does that equal about the same speed as a 3.5 that spins at 7200 rpm?
[22:54] <kriume> giff: i misstyped it here on irc, not in the terminal
[22:55] <Felixia> Åñòü ðóññêèå?
[22:55] <BentFranklin> Anyone know a command-line program that will read in an mp3 and write the beats per minute to stdout?
[22:55] <edbian> umbunt, No.  Because reading the data off the hdd still has a static speed.  If you striped (via a raid) it would be.
[22:55] <giff> kriume, "./conky-colors" followed by all the options
[22:55] <edbian> umbunt, *it would be faster.  But probably not 4300 + 4300 faster.
[22:55] <giff> kriume, just copy/paste what I wrote
[22:55] <old_keyboard> Felixia: country?
[22:55] <unknownbit> hi im new in this ubuntu thing, is it good idea to install ubuntu on SSD?
[22:55] <xlogik> the_core: goto the ubuntu  software Center and search for docky
[22:55] <umbunt> i see
[22:55] <edbian> unknownbit, Sure.  I don't see why not.
[22:55] <old_keyboard> unknownbit: you can install any OS
[22:55] <old_keyboard> lol.
[22:56] <kriume> giff: i only get bash: ./conky-colors: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog
[22:56] <Felixia> Russia
[22:56] <unknownbit> ext3 or ext4?
[22:56] <old_keyboard> !ru | Felixia
[22:56] <kriume> giff: no such file or filecataloge
[22:56] <eth00> umbunt also if you do something like RAID0 consider that either one failing will cause everything to be lost
[22:56] <edbian> unknownbit, ext4 but that's not because you're using a SSD
[22:56] <giff> kriume, wrong dir? pwd
[22:56] <giff> kriume, I mean it just worked...
[22:56] <the_core> xlogik: docky is working,but nothing else on my desktop is,no netbook dock or taskbar
[22:57] <unknownbit> thx
[22:57] <xlogik> the_core: or get to the commandline and type "sudo apt-get install docky"
[22:57] <kriume> giff: the command "conky-colors" worked but not with ./ in front
[22:57] <xlogik> ok
[22:57] <unknownbit> ext3 doesnt have TRIM right?
[22:57] <giff> kriume, good, then try the whole thing (options) and paste it
[22:58] <kriume> giff: without ./ in front then?
[22:58] <the_core> xlogik: is there a way to restore back to the settings I had yesterday?
[22:58] <spid3rnet> how now somthing aboute pentration testing to have a web_shell via 3306 port "mysql"
[22:58] <giff> kriume, yes
[22:58] <umbunt> well if it spins at 4300 rpm than it doesnt spin faster than that but does it have the same performance charicteristics of a 3.5 that spins at 7200 rpm
[22:59] <lefty_ally> OKAY QUICK QUESTION
[22:59] <umbunt> since its smaller
[22:59] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:59] <lefty_ally> HOW DO I GET WIFI WORKING
[22:59] <lefty_ally> ????
[22:59] <giff> kriume, update: I think I solved the whole problem: conky-colors --lang=english --theme=ambiance --cpu=2 --cputemp --swap --updates --hdtemp1=sda --proc=3 --clock=modern --nvidia --calendar --network --rhythmbox=case --ubuntu
[23:00] <RubenAlonzo> greetings everyone.
[23:00] <giff> kriume, just have a look at the last two lines, they should say: To run conky-colors and conky type: conky -c /home/...
[23:00] <edbian> umbunt: Striping definitely has a performance increase, that's the point of it.  Weather it's drive1 + drive2 or now I don't know.  Seems unlikely to me that it is though.  There is probably some overhead.
[23:00] <ayecee> del_diablo: not according to the manpage, i'm afraid.
[23:01] <giff> kriume, execute that and you got yourself a working conky-colors
[23:01] <umbunt> no
[23:01] <edbian> umbunt: All I can say for sure is that the performance while striping is at least the speed of the slowest drive but not more than the combined speeds of both drives
[23:01] <kriume> giff: it worked without ./ in front but look at this http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/VBU
[23:01] <xlogik> the_core: you have to get to the commandline by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and logging in and then typing sudo apt-get install docky
[23:01] <lefty_ally> HOW DO I GET WIFI TO WORK?
[23:01] <kriume> giff: the "Conky: attempting to use more CPUs than you have!"
[23:01] <NictraSavios> Lmao this feels soooooo weird. Im in a ubuntu chatroom... and im on windows. >.<
[23:01] <jrib> !caps | lefty_ally
[23:02] <jrib> !wifi | lefty_ally
[23:02] <umbunt> i see
[23:02] <bl4ckcomb`> lefty_ally, do a barrel roll
[23:02] <NictraSavios> Anyway, im here to help. On a partners computer
[23:02] <giff> kriume, modify the --cpu=2 (replace with 1)
[23:02] <RubenAlonzo> left_ally have you tried different drivers for your device?
[23:02]  * lefty_ally does a barrel roll
[23:02] <edbian> umbunt: For example, you can spin and read data off of both hdd's at the same time.  This would obviously be 2X's the slower drive, but the processor still can only read 1 stream at a time.
[23:02] <giff> kriume, (it's in the first command)
[23:02] <nickals> 5v5 ts/ctf scrim vs glad
[23:03] <kriume> giff: hey it worked now! :D
[23:03] <lefty_ally> i just need to know the package i need to get to get it working. says im missing software
[23:03] <spid3rnet> how now somthing aboute pentration testing to have a web_shell via 3306 port "mysql"
[23:03] <giff> kriume, what did I tell you :)
[23:03] <kriume> giff: thanks! but its totaly transparent, how do i fix that?
[23:03] <c001> anyone familiar with that sony vaio z series laptop?
[23:03] <ayecee> lefty_ally: what says you're missing software?
[23:04] <grugli> can some of you guys tell me about the state of Moonlight on Ubuntu?
[23:04] <lefty_ally> ayecee says "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[23:04] <RubenAlonzo> lefty_ally: what releaseof ubuntu are you using? i have 10.10 netbook and everything worked flawlessly right after the install, i even did 10.04 lucid and THAT worked fine as well. what pc are you on?
[23:04] <old_keyboard> Is ifup and ifdown the same as ifconfig ?
[23:04] <grugli> i'm trying to run a silverlight app and it doesn't display anything
[23:04] <umbunt> im lost , do you think im trying to raid because my raid is two idenical maxtors my system is in the 2 inch with windows/grub/ubuntu
[23:05] <edbian> RubenAlonzo: Just because Ubuntu works for your hardware (regardless of version) does not mean it will work perfect for his.
[23:05] <lefty_ally> RubenAlonzo hp mini series 210 - 1100
[23:05] <ayecee> lefty_ally: looks like you probably need b43-fwcutter
[23:05] <edbian> umbunt: What?
[23:05] <edbian> ayecee: Almost always, that's the case.
[23:05] <RubenAlonzo> edbian: thats true, and i did not mean to take it for granted that it would but perhaps more driver support is available for the 10.10 release than maybe older releases?
[23:06] <edbian> RubenAlonzo: That's true.  He should be using the newest stable release.
[23:06] <kriume> giff: do u know?
[23:06] <lefty_ally> ayeece i searched but nothing shows
[23:06] <firevai> hi everyone.. i've seemed to have deleted my taskbar at the bottom.. somehow emerald theme manager was down there, and i couldnt close it... so i deleted it from panel, and lost my taskbar, with trash bin and stuff.. how can i fix this goof?
[23:07] <ayecee> lefty_ally: which version of ubuntu?
[23:07] <lefty_ally> 10.10
[23:07] <bastidrazor> !resetpanel | firevai
[23:07] <edbian> firevai: Click the top panel.  Add a new panel.  Rebuild it the panel manually.
[23:07] <umbunt> my system is on the 2inch ata as ide 1, my raid is the two sata drives configured for raid
[23:07] <infid> when i drag an mp3 from nautilus to my ipod in Rhythmbox, it takes like 20 tries of drag/dropping before it finally works. Why is that?
[23:08] <lefty_ally> ayecee 10.10
[23:08] <edbian> umbunt: I didn't realize you had 3 drives.  What is your question then?  (I answered the performance question right?)
[23:08] <James1293> del_diablo: one more thing: you said it would take "arcane wizardry with grub and fstab". The site I was looking at made it look like an easy fstab edit and no touch grub, if I'm only moving home folder. Does that sound right? (the site is http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/)
[23:08] <umbunt> nevermind
[23:08] <ayecee> lefty_ally: huh. should be there. maybe use the hardware drivers applet instead - click on system, adminsitration, hardware drivers
[23:08] <edbian> umbunt: ok
[23:09] <firevai> yikes
[23:09] <edbian> ayecee: lefty_ally sudo apt-get update if things are missing
[23:09] <firevai> that made it worse
[23:09] <firevai> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[23:09] <firevai> lost everything at the top right now
[23:09] <firevai> bottom is back, but its mucked up looking
[23:09] <Polah> What repos do I need to add to be able to get Sun Java 6 on ubuntu 10.04
[23:10] <hd1> boss issued an apt-get dist-upgrade and is upgrading java, taking up 100% of the CPU (openjdk-<mumble>), but if I kill the process, it wants me to still reconfigure it, how do I remove the package?
[23:10] <giff> kriume, open the conky file in gedit search for own_window_transparent and replace yes with no
[23:10] <infid> Polah: you dont need a repo, just download the tar, and install to /opt
[23:10] <hasan> is it possible to write directly to a device without caching first?
[23:10] <firevai> yikes now i cant add to the top panel
[23:10] <hasan> is it possible with the mounting option "-o sync"
[23:10] <hasan> ?
[23:10] <old_keyboard> Polah: canonical partners i think
[23:10] <edbian> firevai: is it locked?
[23:10] <infid> Polah: just get the binary tarball so you dont have to compile, that is a packagfe
[23:10] <ayecee> hasan: -o sync won't do that
[23:11] <ayecee> hasan: -o sync just makes it so that the write won't return until the data has been committed to disk
[23:11] <ayecee> is that what you want?
[23:11] <Polah> old_keyboard, archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner?
[23:11] <firevai> um
[23:11] <old_keyboard> Is there a difference between "ifconfig eth0 up" and "ifup eth0"?
[23:11] <RubenAlonzo> lefty_ally: do you have ethernet working if you plug it in? seems you have to manually plug it in to internet then do update and it will work, at least on the help forums the other person who posted with your exact model did that and it worked fine after update
[23:11] <suicidolt> is there an ubuntu pdf reader that will allow me to edit field?
[23:11] <kriume> giff: where is that file located
[23:11] <edbian> firevai: um...
[23:11] <firevai> no
[23:11] <firevai> man
[23:11] <RubenAlonzo> hope it helps in any case
[23:11] <firevai> this sucks
[23:11] <FloodBot3> firevai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <lefty_ally> edbian how would i do that?
[23:12] <hasan> ayecee: so which possibilities do i have?
[23:12] <edbian> lefty_ally: Do what?
[23:12] <firevai> i cant even add a clock to the top panel
[23:12] <hasan> to get more write performance on a device?
[23:12] <giff> kriume, gedit /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: yes there is
[23:12] <firevai> well its there .. i just cant see it
[23:12] <lefty_ally> edbian apt-get
[23:12] <suicidolt> old_keyboard: what' it called?
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: pfedit
[23:12] <lefty_ally> or what ever it was
[23:12] <hasan> cause I can see that the kernel is caching first, and writes to the device like with a 10 sec interval
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: pffedit
[23:12] <James1293> del_diablo: never mind, I'm just going to delete some stuff
[23:12] <suicidolt> pffedit?
[23:12] <Polah> old_keyboard, thanks it picks it up now
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: ooops pdfedit
[23:12] <firevai> brb
[23:13] <RubenAlonzo> lefty_ally: apt-get install nameofsoftware
[23:13] <ayecee> hasan: what's the problem with that?
[23:13] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[23:13] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: I just go to software center and search pdf editor ;)
[23:13] <edbian> lefty_ally: apt-get?  apt-get is a program used to install software from the repositories.  It is the front-end to the package manager.  What in the big picture are you trying to do?
[23:13] <kriume> giff: there is no such folder in my home folder
[23:13] <Polah> lefty_ally, rubenalonzo: Need to append sudo if you're not root, remember
[23:13] <lefty_ally> edbian where would i enter ?
[23:14] <gaddafi> hey guys
[23:14] <edbian> lefty_ally: In a terminal.  Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[23:14] <gaddafi> dst time is set tonight
[23:14] <gaddafi> we time travel 60 minutes into the future
[23:14] <ayecee> gaddafi: in some countries, yes
[23:14] <old_keyboard> lefty_ally: ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
[23:14] <gaddafi> will gnome set it automatically?
[23:14] <hasan> ayecee: I want it to copy faster
[23:14] <hasan> ayecee: gotta go to a party xD
[23:14] <ayecee> gaddafi: linux will, yes
[23:14] <old_keyboard> gaddafi: time travel?
[23:15] <ayecee> hasan: write caching improves performance. disabling caching won't improve performance.
[23:15] <old_keyboard> you mean hour will change?
[23:15] <hasan> ayecee: i c. thx
[23:15] <gaddafi> old_keyboard, yeah
[23:15] <old_keyboard> k
[23:15] <hd1> gaddafi: depends on your location
[23:15] <kriume> giff: nvm just found out that was a command u writed so i got i tnow
[23:15] <Polah> How can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work
[23:16] <lefty_ally> ok in terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:16] <umbunt> how do i find the registry in linux.?
[23:16] <gaddafi> the registry?
[23:16] <oasisTopher> problem, when I run a script that contains "VBoxManage controlvm Watermains savestate && sudo halt"  it fails to boot back up completely (stuck at flashing _ symbol) but when I run that command manually on command line, it boots back up fine
[23:16] <lefty_ally> edbian i am in terminal
[23:16] <umbunt> ye like windows
[23:16] <ayecee> umbunt: unlike windows, there is not a central registry in linux.
[23:16] <edbian> lefty_ally: Question.  Are you connected to the Internet?
[23:16] <pfifo> what is the license on the fonts installed in /usr/share/fonts
[23:17] <umbunt> i know its modilar right what exactly does that mean/
[23:17] <edbian> umbunt: There isn't one.  Closest thing is gconf-editor
[23:17] <umbunt> googl it
[23:17] <lefty_ally> edbian yes but not with ubuntu
[23:17] <umbunt> i know this i was joking to see waht you would say
[23:17] <edbian> umbunt: Modular (in a general sense) means the parts can easily be removed and replaced.
[23:18] <edbian> lefty_ally: The command I was going to give you (sudo apt-get update) only works if you are online.
[23:18] <lefty_ally> fuck!
[23:18] <umbunt> that is window big flaw huh
[23:18] <edbian> lefty_ally: Please don't swear.
[23:18] <lefty_ally> sorry
[23:18] <edbian> umbunt: What is?  Having a registry?
[23:18] <lefty_ally> but why is wifi not working?
[23:19] <umbunt> you think not?
[23:19] <edbian> lefty_ally: Because the software that is needed to make the card work is proprietary and does not come with Ubuntu by default
[23:19] <suicidolt> old_keyboard: that didn't work..I'm trying to put text in form fields that are built into these pdfs, I don't want to change the existing text on the pdf
[23:20] <MGdroinog> hola
[23:20] <umbunt> not so much a registry but the way evything is bunched together in it
[23:20] <edbian> umbunt: There are pros. For example reading from the registry is faster than individual files.
[23:20] <Polah> !es > MGdroinog
[23:20] <edbian> umbunt: The lack of modularity increases complexity.  That is something I don't like.
[23:20] <lefty_ally> edbian : basically i am screwed
[23:20] <umbunt> yes but ther are cons 2 such as virs and malware
[23:21] <Polah> edbian: how would that work. Surely reading from the registry would require passing over it's entirety and then selecting the specific parts; whereas from a single file would require just loading that probably small file
[23:21] <edbian> lefty_ally: Connect the machine to the Internet in some other way.  There is a way to get the package and software manually using jump drives and such.
[23:21] <jrib> old_keyboard: why did you tell me before that on ubuntu systems /etc/motd is typically a symbolic link to /var/run/motd?  I'm not sure if you were trying to ask me something with that statement
[23:21] <Polah> lefty_ally: Surely your computer has an ethernet socket?
[23:21] <edbian> Polah: I don't really know.  I just read it on wikipedia.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Registry
[23:21] <lefty_ally> Polah yes
[23:21] <edbian> Polah: Read the rationale part.
[23:22] <old_keyboard> jrib: editing motd wont do &%%
[23:22] <lefty_ally> edbian
[23:22] <edbian> umbunt: Well the lack of modularity is not what makes windows less secure than linux.
[23:22] <edbian> lefty_ally:
[23:22] <lefty_ally> i have an ethernet cable
[23:22] <jrib> old_keyboard: ok, but that's not what I suggested
[23:22] <edbian> lefty_ally: Then plug it in.
[23:22] <giff> kriume, I was disconnected, did you ping me in the last couple of minutes?
[23:22] <edbian> lefty_ally: 'duh'
[23:23] <old_keyboard> jrib: i was reading update-motd
[23:23] <lefty_ally> edbian too what ?
[23:23] <lefty_ally> lol
[23:23] <umbunt> microsoft doent even care about xp/media center anmore its going to have the same fate as 98
[23:23] <cordell> Is there any advantage of using a 64 bit system over a 32 bit system, except for addressing more than 4 Gb of ram, which is over come with a pae enabled kernel.
[23:23] <Polah> edbian: I guess it would be quicker if the entire registry was loaded on boot and kept in memory
[23:23] <edbian> lefty_ally: Do you have a router / cable modem?  How are you getting Internet in the first place?
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  some tasks can be faster.
[23:23] <edbian> Polah: I suppose?  (I kinda doubt that's the case, the registry is huge)
[23:23] <jrib> old_keyboard: yes, that details how and where you can modify motd
[23:23] <lefty_ally> edbian wirlessly but router in a diff room.
[23:23] <edbian> lefty_ally: Move the machine.
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  and for my home lan. im better off doing all 64bit on all machines. vs 32 on some and 64 on others.
[23:24] <edbian> lefty_ally: No offense but this isn't exactly hard to figure out.
[23:24] <lefty_ally> edbian brothers room.
[23:24] <cordell> Dr_Willis: such as compiling? i wont be doing any of that
[23:24] <Polah> edbian: That's what I thought. To get one part it would have to load the entire thing each time before it could read it, even without the need to parse
[23:24] <umbunt> xp is booo,now its all about vista
[23:24] <lefty_ally> he is not so friendly
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  any math intensive tasks.. video ecodeing and so on.
[23:24] <kriume> giff: no, i am trying to use somebody elses confyrc file now from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=1672 becuase my looks completly wierd
[23:24] <ubuntu_>
[23:24] <ubuntu_> test
[23:24] <JuNiOx> ?hello guys, I tried installing php 5.3.6 from .tar.gz file on ubuntu 10, but there was a bug message when executing "make test", does anyone knows where I can find a .deb package? or maybe an apt-get repository
[23:25] <edbian> Polah: Perhaps it can grab certain parts the same way files are grabbed?  I simply don't know.
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  i dont see much reason to not go 64bit. if your hardware supports it.
[23:25] <cordell> well i have 8 gb of ram, but i dont do any math intensive tasks, or video encoding
[23:25] <gnome> how can I setup apache document root corectly to have right permision to write files in document root
[23:25] <edbian> Polah: It is a database rather than a file, maybe that has something to do with it.
[23:25] <giff> kriume, OK good luck :)
[23:25] <Polah> umbunt: XP is far superior to Vista. Hence why it's been in usage with companies for a decade and they don't want to switch up to Vista or 7
[23:25] <edbian> cordell: If you want to use all 8Gb you need to use 64 bit Ubuntu (or the pae 32 bit kernel)
[23:25] <Polah> edbian: But then it'd be just the same as having separate configuration files but with standardisation
[23:25] <umbunt> well you also have to think about the cost.
[23:25] <kriume> giff: what was the command to open my file in gedit again?? and thanks
[23:26] <edbian> Polah: Again, I don't know.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  a PAE kernel will be slower then an actual 64bit kernel also. From the benchamrks ive read.
[23:26] <umbunt> money money money
[23:26] <giff> kriume, gedit /path/to/file ?
[23:26] <Polah> umbunt: Cost is a factor; it would cost millions for a lot of large companies to switch, but it's also the fact that XP is pretty stable
[23:26] <edbian> umbunt: The cost of what?
[23:26] <edbian> umbunt: The registry?
[23:26] <lefty_ally> edbian what is the command
[23:26] <kriume> giff: yes
[23:26] <Polah> edbian: Changing infrastructures from XP to later versions of Windows
[23:26] <edbian> lefty_ally: sudo apt-get update   (updates your view of the repos)
[23:26] <umbunt> vist or windows 7 whatever you want to call it its just a bunch of service packs
[23:26] <giff> kriume, gedit /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc
[23:26] <kriume> giff: gedit conky -c /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc ?+
[23:27] <kriume> yeah ok
[23:27] <edbian> Polah: umbunt Yeah this isn't exactly 'on-topic
[23:27] <gnome> how can I setup apache document root correctly to have right permission to write files in document root?
[23:27] <giff> kriume, without the conky -c
[23:27] <cordell> Dr_Willis: yes, but not by much according to here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[23:27] <lefty_ally> edbian : okay
[23:27] <edbian> lefty_ally: :)
[23:27] <kriume> giff: ok trying now
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  do what you want. I dont see much reason to not use 64bit these days
[23:27] <umbunt> the big dif is windows 7 likes the 64 bit systems
[23:27] <Polah> How can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work
[23:28] <edbian> cordell: So you're arguing that using the 32-bit pae kernel is a better bet because there is only a small reduction in performance?  Why not use 64 bit and have no drawbacks at all?
[23:28] <apocalyptiq> hi all! o/
[23:28] <rewati> hi what is the current version of ubuntu
[23:28] <edbian> rewati: 10.10
[23:28] <edbian> rewati: 10 <- year   . 10 <- month
[23:28] <apocalyptiq> i have unix hosting, and i've installed there locally ruby 1.9.2 (becouse by default there on system is 1.8.7)
[23:29] <cordell> well edbian, there are some applications that are 32 bit only, any contribute to a multilib system, which makes 64 bit software on the system redundant
[23:29] <giff> rewati, LTS is "current" too ...
[23:29] <umbunt> way off topic im sorry what is that strike 2
[23:29] <apocalyptiq> and i have $HOME/bin/ruby
[23:29] <apocalyptiq> how can i make it default ruby on my account?
[23:29] <Polah> edbian, rewati: Only for another month or so now
[23:29] <cordell> *and contribute
[23:30] <buken> can anyone help diagnose a poll_schedule_timeout issue?
[23:30] <rewati> my system showes 11.04
[23:30] <TheVenerableZ> Does anyone know of a serial terminal program that will let me send raw bytes and not just ASCII chars?
[23:30] <umbunt> is ubuntu one ever going to get any better?
[23:30] <giff> !natty | rewati
[23:31] <Darkenvy> hey whats a program that will regulate my sound to one sound level?
[23:31] <lefty_ally> edbian can i connect to the phonewall instead?
[23:31] <Polah> rewati: Then you have the development release of the next version. Latest stable is 10.10, 11.04 is available unstably and will be released proper on April the 28th
[23:31] <lefty_ally> jk
[23:31] <lefty_ally> jk
[23:31] <rewati> i dont remm that i installed natty
[23:31] <FloodBot3> lefty_ally: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <old_keyboard> I am running ntpd how do I know if ntpdate is running at boot?
[23:31] <KenBW2> I just accidentally unplugged my graphics card. I've plugged it back in but everything seems unresponsive. Is there a way to revive the machine without restarting?
[23:31] <old_keyboard> they are diff things i know
[23:32] <giff> rewati, you may "accidentally" have upgraded to it
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  on a desktop machine? Huh?
[23:32] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: yea
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  you had the case open and unplugged it while the system was running?
[23:32] <old_keyboard> I just want ntpd running not ntpdate
[23:32] <Polah> giff: How would he have done that? Update manager only recommends stable version I thought?
[23:32] <old_keyboard> may I remove ntpdate?
[23:32] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: no, i was plugging the monitor in but the card isnt screwed in
[23:32] <edbian> cordell: Anything open source (the vast majority of Ubuntu) can be compiled for 64 bit with the switch of a flag (and has been for the repos) problem free.  The few remaining things like flash have 64 bit versions.  Many people use the 64 bit version with 0 issues
[23:32] <edbian> lefty_ally: I have no idea what phonewall is.
[23:33] <giff> Polah, copy pasting strings into terminal
[23:33] <old_keyboard> cordell: and flash is gonna die with html5
[23:33]  * agliodbs uses the 64-bit version
[23:33] <Darkenvy> I want my sound level to be even all the way through. im tired of quiet movies making me blast my speakers next time I play an MP3
[23:33] <rewati> so i dont need to do dist upgrade when natty will be released right?
[23:33] <edbian> old_keyboard: we hope
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  so  you unplugged the card from the mb. while the system was running?
[23:33] <Polah> oh
[23:33] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: that would be correct, yes
[23:33] <buken> I'm generating pdfs using wkhtmltopdf. For small pdfs the process works fine, but for larger ones, the wkhtmltopdf process goes to sleep while the waiting channel says 'poll_schedule_timeout' in system monitor
[23:33] <kriume> giff: yess man i got it working and have a really nice look right now:))) thanks!
[23:33] <edbian> Darkenvy: Then you'll have to get every recording company in the world to record and burn things are the same volume
[23:33] <Polah> rewati: You'll need to update everything to the stable versions
[23:33] <rewati> actually i am not using my laptop from longtime my all development is on my office laptop today i opened it and i saw natty and it is not even released
[23:34] <rewati> oh ok
[23:34] <kriume> giff: its amazing :P
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  power down.. make sure its inserted properly.. screw it down.. power back up.. hope you dident short anything out.
[23:34] <rewati> polah: thanx
[23:34] <Darkenvy> edbian obviously you dont know such software DOES exist
[23:34] <giff> kriume, nice enjoy :D
[23:34] <Darkenvy> Im asking what this software is called/ option in my sound pref panel if built in
[23:34] <lucas> pas
[23:34] <cordell> but edbian isnt 64 bit flash just wrapped up in a 64 bit wrapper, that uses the native 32 bit binary?
[23:34] <Darkenvy> my friend on windows 7 has it for his sound system. proprietory software though
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  and its best to UNPLUG the pc from the wall befor inserting/removeing cards.
[23:34] <Logan_> !nl | lucas
[23:34] <Polah> DarkEnvy: You want something for normalisation. I don't know what software there is for that but that's what you want it to do.
[23:34] <edbian> Darkenvy: Oh you mean that feature in itunes that automatically adjusts the volume?
[23:35] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades (ver 10.10)
[23:35] <edbian> cordell: I believe so
[23:35] <giff> rewati,  depends on your setup, have a look at sources.list and make sure everything points to natty
[23:35] <Darkenvy> normalization!
[23:35] <Darkenvy> thats it
[23:35] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: i inadvertantly unplugged the graphics card, i was aiming to plug the monitor in
[23:35]  * old_keyboard kills adobe
[23:35] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: it's not the hardware im worried about - im on 97 days uptime, aiming for 100
[23:35] <lucas> my apache correctly deals with all .php files,   except for index.php, which it treats as a file that should be downloaded instead of executed on the server.   any ideas where to look for the fix?
[23:35] <Darkenvy> does linux do normalization natively?
[23:35] <edbian> Darkenvy: It's in some audio players.  Amarok I believe has it.
[23:35] <Polah> KenBW2: Dr_Willis: Unplug it, give it a few seconds for capacitors to discharge and make sure to ground yourself to release any static charge on you
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2: i would still say power down.. properly plug it in.
[23:35] <Darkenvy> cant I have it for the whole system?
[23:35] <Polah> DarkEnvy: Not that I am aware of.
[23:35] <edbian> Darkenvy: I don't know.
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Polah:  still i find its best to unplug the thing from the wall. 'good habbits'
[23:36] <Darkenvy> but a freakin external sound equipment would do it.... but ubuntu cant? :(
[23:36] <ohsix> Darkenvy: movies generally use all that dynamic range, classical music does too; once all your sources are normalized theres not much you can do about separate sources, by then you're using compression or a limiter to make them all sound the same
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> ive seen high $$ video cards get fried befor.
[23:36] <Darkenvy> I dont want to spend $300
[23:36] <umbunt> is it a good idea when running a duell boot, win/bunt to format yer raid fat32. thats what i did and it sems to work great so far should i expect any problems in the future
[23:36] <Atomhunter> Hey, I set up a server with a 320gb os hdd, and a 1.5 tb raid 1 and have it set up as a NAS with samba... but both ubu and my windows pc says the drive is only 32gb
[23:36] <Polah> Dr_Willis: Yes, but do the other two things I said as well
[23:36]  * KenBW2 cries while pressing the power switch
[23:36] <suicidolt> it's not booting on anything anymore, I restarted this rig and even it isn't able to boot from the usb stick/sd card
[23:36] <cordell> edbian: well as far as i can tell, for me 32 bit is ok to use cause you dont get a messed up multilib system, and html > flash, however, only use 64 bit if you really want true native > 4 gb ram performance
[23:36] <ohsix> Darkenvy: "ubuntu" wouldn't do it, and anything can be done with great effort; pulse can use ladspa plugins
[23:36] <old_keyboard> Atomhunter: are you sure it's 320gb? lol
[23:37] <Darkenvy> whats ladspa?
[23:37] <irule> I installed ubuntu, used it with no compiz and ALT-TAB worked, then I used the ati propietary drivers and moved compiz settings arround but it sucked, so I disabled the ati driver and ALT-TAB does not work any more, so how may I fix it? thanks!
[23:37] <irule> I installed ubuntu, used it with no compiz and ALT-TAB worked, then I used the ati propietary drivers and moved compiz settings arround but it sucked, so I disabled the ati driver and ALT-TAB does not work any more, so how may I fix it? thanks!
[23:37] <ohsix> my personal mantra to use terms of art is if they're the first hit on google ;]
[23:37] <Atomhunter> @old_keyboard my OS hdd is that... my RAID setup is seen as the wrong size although
[23:37] <old_keyboard> !repeat | irule
[23:37] <edbian> cordell: I have no experience accept that people on here all the time recommend 64 bit with 0 issues
[23:37] <barf> What is the smallest desktop I can install?
[23:37] <umbunt> i can easily swap files betwen windows and bunt this way i think its good
[23:38] <barf> The one on the live distro is like 650MB? Is it possible to debootstrap that one?
[23:38] <irule> I understand guys Im sorry it was a mistake and I apologyze
[23:38] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:38] <cordell> edbian: the only system i can get a true native 64 bit system on, with no 32 bit binaries on is arch linux
[23:38] <edbian> cordell: Gotta love arch :)
[23:38] <yeats> cordell: there's no discernable difference between 32/64-bit for most users
[23:38] <ohsix> irule: all that stuff is in separate compiz plugins, you want to enable them if they somehow got disabled; simple-ccsm or ccsm will let you change the settings
[23:38] <BentFranklin> dpkg --list says "rc  network-manage 0.8-0ubuntu3   network management framework daemon".  Does that mean network-manager is removed or I desire it to be removed?
[23:38] <lefty_ally> edbian i  almost got in!
[23:39] <giff> barf, that's compressed, smallest is mini.iso and manually install xorg and wm
[23:39] <edbian> lefty_ally: Oh yeah?  I have no idea what you're talking about
[23:39] <cordell> alright im dont asking questions now, sudo go-help-someone-else
[23:39] <cordell> *done
[23:39] <zvacet> barf: what do you really want to do?
[23:39] <old_keyboard> I tried to purge "ntp" and it says it will remove ubuntu-minimal . Is it just a meta-package like ubuntu-desktop?
[23:39] <old_keyboard> safe?
[23:39] <lefty_ally> edbian to my my brothers room to get to the router
[23:39] <barf> install FF and GUI on 1GB
[23:39] <yeats> cordell: command not found ;-)
[23:39] <ohsix> yeats: one big difference is the package-managed version of flash uses nspluginwrapper and is vile :D
[23:39] <ohsix> (on 64bit)
[23:39] <Atomhunter> Hey anyone up for helping me with some raid help?
[23:40] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:40] <Jasonn> Anyone know how i can install PHProxy?
[23:40] <edbian> lefty_ally: Tell your brother this is Linux and he shouldn't impede progress
[23:40] <bastidrazor> old_keyboard: look at it and see: apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal
[23:40] <yeats> ohsix: good to know
[23:40] <giff> barf, yes possible 800 something it is
[23:40] <gnome> can I host multiple websites with ubuntu desktop version and apache or I need ubuntu server? what is the difference between desktop and server ubuntu?
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> !info phpproxy
[23:40] <lefty_ally> edbian lol
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  desktop comes with the gui...
[23:40] <cordell> yeats: darn, try alias go-help-someone-else='man man'
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  its easier to just install some sercvices on the desktop ed. if you want a desktop+server box.
[23:40] <Jasonn> !info phproxy
[23:40] <yeats> cordell: ha!
[23:40] <umbunt> could i format it ntfs and still be able to swap files betwen bunt and windows cuz i know windows will but will bunt
[23:40] <barf> giff: apt-get install xorg firefox fluxbox ?
[23:40] <gnome> Dr_Willis: Can I host multiple websites with desktop?
[23:41] <old_keyboard> bastidrazor: I saw that with synatpic
[23:41] <edbian> gnome: The biggest difference is the packages that server comes with by default.  You can take Ubuntu and turn it into server rather easily.  (and vice versa)
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  install the services.. it wont matter.
[23:41] <giff> barf, yes that would do it
[23:41] <barf> giff thanks
[23:41] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:41] <umbunt> and we all know windows wants nothing to do wit ext
[23:41] <old_keyboard> bastidrazor: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu minimal system" which means if has to be removed if one of those apps is removed, right?
[23:41] <zvacet> barf: follow giif advice and install with minimal iso see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[23:41] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: I want to run a webserver, and i want to have a PHP file as the site, how do i do this?
[23:42] <cordell> yeats: as for getting rid of that alias, your on your own, its probably in you ~/.bashrc or something
[23:42] <edbian> umbunt: Do you have an Ubuntu related question?  Hating windows is not the point of linux or this channel.
[23:42] <ohsix> yeats: there are some other differences, like ia32-libs and its dev package; which can make doing some stuff ugly, but no normal user would notice, and that's fixed with the multiarch stuff coming down the pipe in new versions of debian/ubuntu (starting w/natty)
[23:42] <bastidrazor> old_keyboard: correct.
[23:42] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:42] <gnome> um what services? I have apache I want to host multiple websites but I am absolute beginner in linux
[23:43] <gnome> I have ubuntu desktop
[23:43] <ohsix> gnome: try https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[23:43] <giff> barf, that is afair... if ubuntu is too bit debian would certainly fit
[23:43] <giff> big*
[23:43] <edbian> gnome: Apache can host multiple sites.  It's ticky to set up though.
[23:43] <old_keyboard> !apache
[23:43] <gnome> ohsix, but that is for server?
[23:43] <oasisTopher> problem, when I run a script that contains "VBoxManage controlvm Watermains savestate && sudo halt"  it fails to boot back up completely (stuck at flashing _ symbol) but when I run that command manually on command line, it boots back up fine
[23:43] <old_keyboard> start reading gnome
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  install the server you want. and configure it as needed.
[23:43] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:43] <barf> giff: I am trying to install ubuntu with firefox on a Samsung SyncMaster 400 PXn
[23:43] <lefty_ally> edbian i am in!
[23:43] <oasisTopher> help, anyone?
[23:43] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Ok, do you know how i can make the server ask for a username/password on connect?
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> !lamp | gnome
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  depends on the service... and the specifics of what you mean.
[23:44] <ohsix> gnome: the server/desktop difference is really only in the install media, both are virtual packages that install different things, ubuntu-desktop for desktop-y things, and ubuntu-server for servery things, you can do the same things on either
[23:44] <lefty_ally> edbian done loading now what?
[23:44] <gnome> that guide is for ubuntu server i have ubuntu desktop..
[23:44] <Polah> How can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work
[23:44] <giff> barf, I think 800something MB is the minimal installation, I'm not longer sure if xorg will fit on it
[23:44] <edbian> lefty_ally: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  it dosent matter... the desktop edi. is basically a server + the X gui stuiff.
[23:44] <gnome> ahm
[23:44] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: I just want a username and password (Just one combination) to be able to join my site
[23:44] <gnome> i see
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  and a few other differances.
[23:44] <umbunt> now that i think about it NTFS might be better because you can alwase mount a windows FS from bunt so duh what as I thinking but fat 32 is so safe you know everything works with it not so much wit ntfs
[23:45] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:   you can password protect your 'web server' to require login to access.. no idea how. bu tiseen it done.
[23:45] <gnome> should  I install some essential package to be able to host multiple websites with apache?
[23:45] <gnome> some additional essential package?
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  you may want to read some apache docs.
[23:45] <gnome> service
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> !info apache2
[23:45] <ohsix> read that link i posted brah
[23:45] <gnome> I mean on ubuntu ide
[23:45] <gnome> side*
[23:45] <gnome> not on apache side
[23:45] <lefty_ally> edbian "firware missing"
[23:46] <gnome> some service that ubuntu will need to host few websites
[23:46] <lefty_ally> ayeece what else could be missing?
[23:46] <umbunt> thanks for your tim folks i will quit bothering you now
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  err.. apache handles that.. not sure its really ubuntu specific at all.
[23:46] <edbian> lefty_ally: firmware missing?
[23:46] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot. how to recover???(ver 10.10)
[23:46] <lefty_ally> edbian yes
[23:46] <edbian> lefty_ally: pastebin (www.pastebin.com) the output of this: sudo lspci -k
[23:47] <lefty_ally> edbian im on my phone
[23:47] <gnome> ok
[23:47] <Polah> How can I stop and restart vsftpd on 10.04?
[23:47] <zarbula> HELP ubuntu, Kernel newbie trying to compile Xen for maverick and getting confused on a step on the community guide asking -- "To enable Xen (and its options in Kernel config, you should dis-/enable the configuration options in the right dependency order." what do I need to do exactly?
[23:47] <edbian> lefty_ally: The Ubuntu machine is online right?  Go to pastebin on there.  put the output of that command in the box, hit submit, and give me the link.
[23:48] <conical> Is anyone in here familiar with the AirPlay plugin for Totem?
[23:48] <kriume> giff: u there?
[23:48] <ohsix> Polah: "start" and "restart" if it has upstart files, /etc/init.d/vsftpd if it doesn't, though the second should act as a wrapper and work in either case
[23:48] <lefty_ally> edbian let me get on firefox
[23:48] <agliodbs> does 10.10 use MBR or GPT for the partition table by default?
[23:49] <chomporouter> long live ubuntu
[23:49] <kriume> giff: i tried this ""To run Conky when your computer starts, go to System > Preferences > Startup Applications, add a new startup application and under "Name" enter "conky" and under command, enter "~/.conkycolors/bin/conkyStart"      but it doesent work
[23:49] <kriume> giff: is that command wrong?
[23:49] <edbian> agliodbs: MBR is the master boot record.  GPT is the partition table.  They are different things.  Ubuntu uses both of them.
[23:49] <lefty__> edbian ok
[23:50] <edbian> lefty__: Your nick changed?
[23:50] <lefty__> edbian lefty_
[23:50] <lefty__> is domain name
[23:50] <edbian> lefty__: www.pastebin.com
[23:50] <lefty__> ally is my phone
[23:50] <edbian> lefty__: See my previous post for what to do.
[23:51] <ohsix> edbian: theres also an "mbr" partition scheme
[23:51] <giff> kriume, put this in a file, make it executeable and use instead: http://pastebin.com/Xnk95Wxn
[23:51] <danie395> is there a way to swicth work spaces kinda like the alt tab to swicth windows?
[23:51] <edbian> ohsix: oh really?  IDK then
[23:51] <lefty__> edbian how do i copy?
[23:51] <ohsix> if you want to separate them like that, theres also a fake mbr for gpt, so theres mbr & gpt :D
[23:51] <edbian> lefty__: highlight and right click the text in the terminal
[23:52] <kriume> giff: what do u mean? should i do these command in terminal , and will it work then?
[23:52] <ohsix> AND theres an mbr (the partition table format) overlay for gpt, so you can have both
[23:52] <danie395> is there a way to swicth work spaces kinda like the alt tab to swicth windows?
[23:52] <Atomhunter> anyone with experience with RAID 1 setups?
[23:52] <Polah> danie395: Ctrl Alt + Arrow key
[23:52] <edbian> danie395: alt + ctrl + left  (or right)
[23:53] <lefty__> edbian keys
[23:53] <Polah> edbian: Can also use up or down
[23:53] <edbian> lefty__: keys?
[23:53] <edbian> Polah: True
[23:53] <lefty__> yea like ctrl + c
[23:53] <danie395> thanks both of u just makes things quicker and easier lol instead of pushing the button
[23:53] <lefty__> like in windows
[23:53] <giff> kriume, no copy and paste in a new document in gedit
[23:53] <kriume> giff: will it work on startup now after i restart?
[23:54] <edbian> lefty__: ctrl + shift + c I believe.  Doesn't right click work?
[23:54] <giff> kriume, yes, save it somewhere, chmod +x the file and put it into startup
[23:54] <kriume> giff: explain please, where should i put the file after saved it?
[23:54] <lefty__> edbian not working for some reasom
[23:54] <agliodbs> is it possible to boot from an external USB hard drive?  not a thumbdrive, but an enternal spinny drive?
[23:54] <edbian> lefty__: Does ctrl + shift + c work?
[23:55] <ohsix> agliodbs: if your bios can do it, you can boot from any type of storage, and install it there too
[23:55] <lefty__> edbian let me see
[23:55] <edbian> agliodbs: Yes if your motherboard supports it
[23:56] <agliodbs> ok, that seems like a good test before I install this SSD
[23:56] <giff> kriume, anywhere you want eg /home/kristoffer/conkyautostart.sh
[23:56] <lefty__> edbian to paste?
[23:56] <edbian> lefty__: ctrl + shift + c copies in gnome-terminal
[23:57] <kriume> giff: ok done, what now?
[23:57] <Goliath> hey do i run winetricks as sudo?
[23:57] <lefty__> edbian to paste the copied text
[23:57] <edbian> lefty__: in firefox.  ctrl + v
[23:57] <edbian> lefty__: Do I really need to walk you through copy and paste?
[23:57] <danie395> how do i install frostwire with the sudo apt-get install frostwire ? what sources do i need
[23:58] <extra11> frostwire uses limewires network which is shutdown no?
[23:58] <kriume> should i select and add that file as the "command" for conky for startup programs?
[23:58] <kriume> giff ^
[23:58] <danie395> extrall, is it and were did u here that from ?
[23:58] <giff> kriume, chmod +x /home/kristoffer/conkyautostart.sh
[23:58] <shcherbak> am I wrong or there is not working cli-based twitter client in ubuntu repos?
[23:58] <lefty__> edbian http://pastebin.com/e2pxAkjn
[23:59] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot. how to recover???(ver 10.10)
[23:59] <kriume> giff: ok, is it working if i restart now?
[23:59] <kriume> giff: can i delete this file after or it has to stay?
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> extra11:  the network is not shutdown as far as i know.
[23:59] <giff> kriume, have you added it to startup items?
[23:59] <giff> kriume, it has to stay


[05:24] <halkun> Ugh! I can't seem to get Rosegarden to talk to Timidity :(
[05:26] <halkun> Talks great to my external USB midi device, and I can play midi via command line with the Timidity program, but a whole lot of nothing when when I try to output via Rosegarden
[05:26] <halkun> I'm thinking it's a Jack thing
[05:28] <halkun> any ideas?
[05:47] <maxxsire> I'm not sure if I'm in the right channel but I have Ubuntu Studio installed on my computer and have had no trouble with it for over a year now. Could run it for days with no performance problems. But in the last month or so after about an hour or so of starting up Ubuntu Studio it starts to get real sluggish even if I don't open many programs. The longer the computer is on the more sluggish it acts. What does this mean and wha
[05:48] <maxxsire> *days in a row*
[06:10] <maxxsire> Also, only about 5-15 percent of my CPU and about 10-30 percent of my RAM is being used at any time. Then applications like Firefox begin to crash.
[06:39] <maxxsire> Am I on the wrong channel for my questions?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> maxxsire, ubuntustudio questions welcomed
[06:40] <maxxsire> I have Ubuntu Studio installed on my computer and have had no trouble with it for over a year now. Could run it for days with no performance problems. But in the last month or so after about an hour or so of starting up Ubuntu Studio it starts to get real sluggish even if I don't open many programs. The longer the computer is on the more sluggish it acts. What does this mean and what can I do about it? Thank u in advance!
[06:41] <maxxsire> Also, only about 5-15 percent of my CPU and about 10-30 percent of my RAM is being used at any time. Then applications like Firefox begin to crash.
[09:32] <bioman_> Hello
[09:32] <bioman_> Got clicks and crackles with aplay and my USB DAC, 13,10
[09:32] <bioman_> Has it ever happened to seomone ?
[14:12] <elice> saludos
[20:42] <tonyttt> the taskbar is located at the top of the screen , is it possible to move it to the bottom ?
[20:43] <holstein> tonyttt: yes
[20:44] <tonyttt> care to share how i can move it to the bottom ? :)
[20:45] <holstein> tonyttt: i think you'll do better knowing to refer to it as a "panel"
[20:45] <holstein> tonyttt: you should be able to right click on it and see options
[20:45] <tonyttt> got it . i went into properties . what am i looking for in there exactly ?
[20:46] <holstein> tonyttt: can you right click?.. one think i like to do is use the guest account, or the live CD to learn about how to configure everything, so that im not breaking my main installation
[20:46] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/245919/how-can-i-change-xfce-bottom-panel-to-the-top
[20:46] <holstein> "Right click panel . Panel>Panel Preferences>CLEAR Lock Panel . You will see a "handle" (double dotted line) on the end of the panel . Move the panel by handle . Lock Panel "
[20:47] <tonyttt> cool . ill try that . thanks