[00:05] <smart_developer> I was able to get logrotate to rotate my_log.log just fine (at the top of the hour), but it seems that my new (fresh, 0 Bytes) my_log.log isn't being written to.
[00:05] <smart_developer> I'm using rsyslog to direct log output to my_log.log.
[00:05] <smart_developer> Does anyone know what is going wrong here? Thanks.
[00:17] <bennypr0fane> hello, is it normal that my sudo password does give me permission to su?
[00:18] <rww> bennypr0fane: yes
[00:18] <rww> use sudo -u usernamehere commandhere if you need to switch to a non-root user
[00:18] <bennypr0fane> rww: but I'm trying to switch to root
[00:19] <rww> bennypr0fane: then use sudo...
[00:19] <bennypr0fane> it won't cd with sudo
[00:19] <rww> oh.
[00:19] <rww> sudo -i
[00:20] <bennypr0fane> rww. thanks. just curious: what does the -i option do, and why do I need it to cd? are there any other everyday-commands that don't work with sudo?
[00:21] <rww> bennypr0fane: runs a new copy of bash with root privileges
[00:21] <rww> as opposed to sudo cd whatever, which runs cd and then exits (and doesn't affect your current shell)
[00:21] <bennypr0fane> isn't that much the same as becoming root?
[00:22] <bennypr0fane> through su
[00:22] <rww> yes
[00:23] <bennypr0fane> why does my password not work for su? I don't recall ever setting any other one
[00:23] <rww> because it's asking for the root password, and there isn't one
[00:24] <bennypr0fane> rww: haha, I forgot the "not" in my first question. but it seems you read it anyway, yes?
[00:26] <t0ntin> Hi, all! After I did a software update, I was no longer able to use Unity. It is all messed up. The launcher is gone, the menu bar is gone. Cannot access the terminal. I have to log into Gnome. Is there a way to fix it? Google was not much help. I'm a beginner.
[00:26] <ivan```> hey, i have a problem, chroimium freezes after some time of using it, it happens after scrolling tabs with mouse wheel, after freezing if i press alt-f4 it will tell something about closing unexpectadly. It happens on my Ubuntu 14.04 since i updated it from unknown version to version 37, and then to 38-dev
[00:27] <coolstar> hi, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my Acer C720 but every so often the screen freezes. Clicking does nothing but the cursor still moves around.
[00:27] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, do you know if the update was completed?
[00:27] <t0ntin> yes, the update was done. I restarted, and it was all screwed up
[00:28] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, did it tell you it needed to restart before the update was complete?
[00:29] <t0ntin> I can't remember for sure, but I think it didn't tell me.
[00:29] <bennypr0fane> ivan```,  sounds like too little RAM. how much you got? lots of tabs open?
[00:29] <ivan```> no, bennypr0fane, it happens even with small numbers of tabs
[00:29] <ivan```> i have 4 gb
[00:30] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, I would do sudo apt-get update, and then sudo apt-get -f install
[00:30] <spearhead> ivan```, sounds like a chromium development issue, maybe try asking in #chromium-support
[00:30] <t0ntin> will that give me the latest updates?
[00:30] <ivan```> spearhead: i did but its dead chanell
[00:31] <spearhead> ivan```, did you try the other chromium channels?
[00:31] <bennypr0fane> rww: if there is no root password, I should get permission by just hitting enter at the prompt, no?
[00:31] <rww> bennypr0fane: no, because the account's locked
[00:31] <rww> !noroot
[00:31] <rww> wrong one
[00:31] <Caramoan> how to put unity launcher at buttom, im using Ubuntu 14.04
[00:32] <rww> !root
[00:32] <rww> Caramoan: you can't
[00:32] <ivan```> spearhead: i will, but i in my previous expereince of being there tells me that no one alive there
[00:32] <Caramoan> rww, ah..ok
[00:32] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, apt-get -f install checks if you have held back packages and tries to fix missing dependencies
[00:33] <t0ntin> I'll try it. Thanks.
[00:33] <spearhead> ivan```, I'm showing 497 users in the #chromium channel
[00:34] <ivan```> spearhead: yea but last time i asked there no one was answering or just chatting
[00:36] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, do you really need your chromium to be a dev version? bcs otherwise jsut rolling back to 37 might solve yr problem
[00:37] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: it happens in both versions, i updated to dev in hope of fixing
[00:37] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, that is very little information to go. try to find out if a specific action triggers the freeze. If you only just installed, maybe the installation didn't go well.
[00:37] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: I noticed it also happens on my friends' C720's as well. They're also on Ubuntu 14.04
[00:38] <coolstar> it happens mainly when playing flash video
[00:38] <bennypr0fane> then I don't think there's reason to believe it's a development issue. so how many tabs you got open?
[00:38] <coolstar> 3
[00:38] <coolstar> in firefox
[00:39] <coolstar> happens a lot when playing youtube videos
[00:39] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, mainly or only? the tabs question was actually for ivan``` , sorry
[00:39] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: mainly
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> for how long have you been using this install before running into this problem?
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> coolstar
[00:40] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: it happens with any number of tabs, i have lots of unused RAM when this happens
[00:40] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: 5 minutes
[00:40] <coolstar> just reinstalled
[00:40] <d3crypt> hey
[00:40] <d3crypt> whats up
[00:41] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, have you tried proprietary GPU drivers?
[00:41] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, any other browsers installed? they work fine?
[00:41] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: I don't think there are any proprietary GPU drivers for the Haswell Intel graphics
[00:42] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: yes, but they are slow, so i dont want to use them
[00:42] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, maybe that's the problem. have you cehcked?
[00:42] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: and they don't support scrolling tabs with wheel
[00:42] <paulkass> hello
[00:43] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, if not, run Jockey ("additional dirvers" or similar) and see if it gives you a choice to try some other driver
[00:43] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: well here's the hardware in the system: https://ghostbin.com/paste/8xuyn
[00:43] <coolstar> here's the graphics adapter:
[00:43] <coolstar> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a06] (rev 09)
[00:43] <coolstar> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0a11]
[00:43] <coolstar> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[00:44] <paulkass> Does anyone know which file in Ubuntu sends the data to the monitor to be displayed?
[00:45] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: I'm not getting an option for a different graphics driver
[00:45] <ivan```> how can i install older version of chromium, eg. 36
[00:46] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, whut? a browser that won't let you use the scrolling wheel? what's that? I can do it in firefox.
[00:47] <netameta> what is tcl 8.5 ?
[00:47] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: i mean switching between tabs with wheel. can't live without it once used to it
[00:48] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: especially when having mouse with fast wheel like g500
[00:49] <Caramoan> is there live stream for ubuntu topic?
[00:50] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, scrolling tabs works fine in ff here. If you think the speed is the problem, maybe tuning it down in system settings could help?
[00:52] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: switching between tabs with whell when you move pointer on the title of one of the tabs and scroll wheel, tab will switch
[00:52] <eedeep> hi there...just upgraded to 14.04 LTS from 12.04 LTS and went fine except now I can't see my clock in the menu bar! http://askubuntu.com/questions/371374/where-did-the-menu-bar-clock-go
[00:53] <eedeep> these suggestions don't seem to work: http://itsfoss.com/fix-date-time-missing-menu-bar-ubuntu-1310/
[00:53] <eedeep> frustrating thing is I can see the time in the menu bar *before* I log in
[00:53] <eedeep> but then when I'm logged in proper, it's not there
[00:53] <eedeep> any ideas?
[00:55] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: also one more thing, the brightness keys on the keyboard seem to actually be the F6 and F7 keys. Is there a way I can get ubuntu to actually change the brightness when they're pressed?
[00:55] <daftykins> eedeep: maybe a unity reset would do you some good
[00:56] <coolstar> (I already mapped the F8, F9 and F10 keys to their respective volume keys in the keyboard settings)
[00:56] <eedeep> daftykins: oh yeah? /me googles how to do that
[00:57] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, everything in due time.. :-D have you solved the freeze issue? It might not even be the graphics driver, but it would be my first guess with this kind of problem
[00:57] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: nope, still haven't yet. I'll try seeing if I can re-create it
[00:58] <coolstar> let me see if the syslog/dmesg would reveal anything (let me set up SSH on it, one sec)
[00:59] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, other than web-searching for linux driver problems with your  specific hardware (especially if you know a guy with the same laptop has the same problem), I'm out of ideas. sorry mate. but dmesg also seems like a good one
[01:00] <eedeep> daftykins: hmm, no luck
[01:00] <squinty> eedeep:  system settings > time and date > date tab > "show a clock in the menu bar"    does that need toggling on?
[01:00] <eedeep> squinty: yep definitely have that set to "on"
[01:00] <daftykins> turn it off then back on?
[01:00] <bennypr0fane> have a good one, everyone
[01:01] <jr_> I've got a CUPS printer server I set up in my house...but I don't know how to print to it. the server is running ubuntu, does anyone know how I can send a file to the server for printing?
[01:07] <eedeep> daftykins: yeah i've tried that
[01:07] <eedeep> classic ubuntu dist upgrade this one
[01:07] <eedeep> clock is probably like the thing I use the most
[01:07] <daftykins> *shrug* i don't believe in upgrades
[01:08] <eedeep> I don't believe in clean re-installs
[01:09] <coolstar> hmm, seems the "graphics issues" were fixed by adding the "tpm_tis.interrupts=0" kernel arg
[01:09] <daftykins> eedeep: give it time, you will ;)
[01:10] <OerHeks> just open systemsettings >  time + date > clock > "show clock in the menu bar"
[01:10] <OerHeks> maybe logout/login, dunno
[01:10] <eedeep> OerHeks: yeah have done both of those
[01:11] <daftykins> confirm in guest account
[01:11] <squinty> eedeep: http://askubuntu.com/questions/458117/missing-date-time-from-top-panel-of-unity-desktop-ubuntu-14-04
[01:12] <squinty> eedeep:  seems there are two possible solutions at the bottom of that page
[01:13] <squinty> supper time here.......
[01:21] <LtDan> I am trying to copy my bookmarks from Ubuntu bookmarks to a USB stick. I would like the saved version to look like the bookmarks set-up in Ubuntu. How do I do this? Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS Firefox version 31.0 Firefox for buntu canonical 1.0. Thank you.
[01:22] <SchrodingersScat> LtDan: would that be in .mozilla ?
[01:23] <LtDan> I m not sure. Not very technically adept  .  .  .
[01:23] <pushnell> Hey folks, I’m trying to set up my first ruby dev environment with Trusty and the documentation tool doesn’t have documentation for the language classes. (`ri Hash` returns “Nothing known about Hash”).  I asked in #ruby but they didn’t know … how can I install this?
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> LtDan: the part I'm confused about is I don't know what a ubuntu bookmark is, but if it's the firefox bookmarks then there should be a hidden folder in your home directory that stores your firefox settings, bookmarks, etc. that you can potentially copy and have the same profile on multiple machines.
[01:24] <coolstar> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my Acer C720, but the brightness keys on the keyboard seem to actually be the F6 and F7 keys. Is there a way I can get ubuntu to actually change the brightness when they're pressed?
[01:25] <LtDan> I browse the net and give the command Bookmark This Page and save it to a folder in bookmarks
[01:25] <samthewildone> !printer
[01:26] <pushnell> I should clarify, that #ruby says that documentation is normally installed as a part of the language build process, so “Ubuntu must have put it somewhere”, but I can’t find any obvious packages which would provide this.
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> LtDan: ok, either open up your file manager or open up a terminal.  If you use a file manager then turn on viewing of hidden folders and look for .mozilla , if you use terminal then you should be able to cp the folder using cp -r .mozilla /foo/bar/usbstick/
[01:26] <cymrutree> .,.,.
[01:27] <cymrutree> anyone free to help a noob?
[01:27] <cymrutree> anyone?
[01:27] <cymrutree> my audio is jacked up
[01:28] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | cymrutree
[01:28] <LtDan> will try brb
[01:28] <cymrutree> ok
[01:29] <FailFarm> cymrutree: what is wrong with the audio other than being "Jacked up"
[01:29] <cymrutree> im typing the message
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> !info jackd
[01:31] <cymrutree> Mute is selected and I can't uncheck it; every time I go to Audio Settings I find the sound is reset to almost minimum (even if I changed it); the "Play sound through" list is empty where there should be "headphones", as is with input where should be a microphone
[01:31] <cymrutree> that should do it... is that what you want?
[01:31] <samthewildone> anyone would happen to know how to setup a usb connected to router for linux ?
[01:32] <eedeep> squinty: hey thanks! it worked
[01:32] <eedeep> http://askubuntu.com/questions/458117/missing-date-time-from-top-panel-of-unity-desktop-ubuntu-14-04
[01:32] <eedeep> ie,
[01:32] <eedeep> dconf reset -f /com/canonical/indicator/datetime/
[01:32] <eedeep> pkill -f datetime
[01:32] <TylerE> Is there really no way at all to force maximize/close buttons to the right side of the window in 14.04?
[01:32] <cymrutree> someone saw my question right
[01:33] <cymrutree> !patience
[01:33] <a1fa> hey, what is "service networking restart" equivalent in 14.04?
[01:33] <cymrutree> Mute is selected and I can't uncheck it; every time I go to Audio Settings I find the sound is reset to almost minimum (even if I changed it); the "Play sound through" list is empty where there should be "headphones", as is with input where should be a microphone
[01:34] <cymrutree> I'm not gonna spam just posting it a second time
[01:34] <cymrutree> agh
[01:34] <usr13> alsamixer
[01:35] <FailFarm> cymrutree: do you know what audio back end you are using
[01:35] <pushnell> Hey folks, I’m on Trusty with updated apt-cache and trying to set up my first ruby environment.  I have the ‘ruby1.9.1’ package installed, but the ruby documentation tool ‘ri’ doesn’t have documentation for the language classes.  (`ri Hash` returns “Nothing known about Hash”).  #ruby says that language docs are normally installed as a part of the build process, so “Ubuntu must have put it somewhere”.  I
[01:35] <pushnell> haven’t found a package which seems to provide this…  any suggestions?
[01:35] <quatrox> samthewildone: can you be more specific?
[01:35] <cymrutree_> hi
[01:35] <samthewildone> I plugged my printer to my router
[01:35] <cymrutree> oh wow
[01:35] <samthewildone> how do I add that printer to my computer now ?
[01:36] <cymrutree_> webchat.freenode.net is the same as
[01:36] <cymrutree> mibbit
[01:36] <cymrutree> huehuehuehuehue.
[01:36] <usr13> "that printer"?
[01:36] <usr13> cymrutree: firefox localhost:631
[01:36] <cymrutree> so I guess nobody knows anything about sound? is it really that complicated?
[01:36] <quatrox> samthewildone: I do not know any simple answer.  It depends on your printer and your router
[01:36] <usr13> samthewildone: firefox localhost:631
[01:37] <LtDan> Cannot find file manager and I do not know how to open a terminal . . . .
[01:37] <samthewildone> usr13, I already went there
[01:37] <FailFarm> cymrutree: i asked you what audio backend you were using but you have yet to respond
[01:37] <usr13> quatrox: samthewildone Talking about a network printer?
[01:37] <cymrutree> didn't see that
[01:37] <OldSkoool> I just upgraded to 14.04. Before I was running 12.10. Now I am getting grub errors. I found a description of the bug report, but it is too advanced for me. Is there an easier way? Here's the link I found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289977
[01:37] <samthewildone> problem is when I try to find the printer it does not come up in the query.
[01:37] <cymrutree> what is that
[01:37] <cymrutree> I don't know, to answer the original question
[01:37] <quatrox> usr13: he wrote that he connected his USB printer to his router
[01:38] <cymrutree> FailFarm: so can I look it up or something?
[01:38] <samthewildone> usr13, Yes, I assume it's networked because its connected to the WiFi router.
[01:39] <cymrutree> I didn't change it from the default if that helps any
[01:39] <cymrutree> except I put in some stupid code I found on a help forum that probably caused the problem
[01:39] <cymrutree> let me find it
[01:39] <usr13> samthewildone: So, what IP address did you assign to it?
[01:39] <quatrox> samthewildone: I would assume you need driver support in your router as well
[01:39] <samthewildone> usr13, Didn't assign anything to it. Matter of fact we just reset the router to defaults.
[01:39] <FailFarm> cymrutree: i bet you have pulse audio. I think you can uninstall or just disable pulse audio reboot and then see if it resolved your issue
[01:40] <cymrutree> i did this
[01:40] <cymrutree> Turn PulseAudio autospawn off, normally: $ echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse/client.conf Kill PulseAudio: $ killall pulseaudio Shut down and restart Skype
[01:40] <usr13> samthewildone: Go into the router's config and set it up.
[01:40] <samthewildone> usr13, right now the administrator is doing the setup via windows.
[01:41] <cymrutree> is that how you do that?
[01:41] <usr13> samthewildone: What?
[01:41] <usr13> samthewildone: So, who is the administrator?
[01:42] <quatrox> cymrutree: skype has an option for automatic adjusting volume
[01:42] <samthewildone> usr13, yes, my old man is the acting administrator.
[01:42] <amyxu> ##urw
[01:42] <usr13> samthewildone: So tell him to set it up and give you the IP address.
[01:42] <cymrutree> quatrox so what do I do
[01:42] <quatrox> cymrutree: try to disable that
[01:42] <amyxu> # urw
[01:42] <quatrox> then restart skype
[01:43] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Though confusing, pretty straight forward. post #10 is the surer solution method. -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc <-; we can step throgh that one.
[01:43] <cymrutree> I don't see the option
[01:44] <usr13> samthewildone: Are you seeing anything that looks like that printer at localhost:631/admin ?
[01:44] <quatrox> cymrutree: it is there, but I cannot help you locate it, as I do not use skype anymore
[01:44] <cymrutree> yeah lemme look it up
[01:44] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: I can try that. I have the live USB running already. So type that command into a terminal and cross my fingers? Is that right?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: No, a bit more complex than just that. We have to SHange Root into the install to make the commannd effective to the install.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> CHange*
[01:47] <cymrutree> somewhere it says you can't disable it
[01:47] <cymrutree> without editing the files or something
[01:47] <cymrutree> and I can't find the files just the application...
[01:47] <cymrutree> does skype even keep files?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: IF you are not comforable with a CHange Root routine, we can try a simpler method to gain access to the installed system and from there ( if we can gain entry) perform the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" routine.
[01:48] <quatrox> cymrutree: I believe it is a menu in skype called options or preference
[01:48]  * RedDeath Back
[01:48] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: I don't mind doing it this way if you don't mind helping me. :)
[01:48] <OldSkoool> K. I did that. A window came up asking for a linux command line. Says it's allowed to be empty (it is empty)
[01:49] <samthewildone> usr13, http://www.hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[01:49] <usr13> OldSkoool: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:49] <quatrox> cymrutree: in there, you find a setting with a description similar to "allow skype to automatically adjust "...
[01:49] <samthewildone> usr13, looks promising.
[01:49] <quatrox> cymrutree: disable that and restart skype
[01:50] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Are you presently in the CVHange Root .. NOT in the liveDVD  ? .. IF CHange Rooted, then yes, allow to be empty is OK .
[01:50] <cymrutree> not under General
[01:50] <cymrutree> not under Advanced
[01:50] <cymrutree> not under Sound Settings
[01:50] <cymrutree> i checked bout everywhere else too
[01:51] <quatrox> cymrutree: it should be under Sound
[01:51] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: It's a small purple window that popped up when I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc It says "package configuration" at the top.  So just hit enter with no command?
[01:51] <cymrutree> sound devices that is
[01:51] <cymrutree> ok found it
[01:52] <cymrutree> nothing different
[01:53] <cymrutree> i checked if that box was still checked after restarting skype and it was
[01:53] <quatrox> cymrutree: did you restart skype?
[01:53] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Well, IF you have not mounted the installed root partition to work on the installed grub, you will have NO effect. I ask again, where are you ?
[01:53] <cymrutree> yeah, i quit and logged back in
[01:53] <cymrutree> somewhere I found how to go to alsa mixer
[01:53] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: Sorry. Let me reread all you wrote. Maybe I missed something.
[01:54] <cymrutree> it just shows one 00 box with no bar over it, not sure what that means but the website doesn't say what to do with it
[01:54] <quatrox> cymrutree: if skype is adjusting your mixer settings automatically, there is not much you can do.  You need to make sure skype stops doing that
[01:54] <cymrutree> maybe it's not skype
[01:54] <cymrutree> idk
[01:55] <samthewildone> brb
[01:55] <cymrutree> what about alsa, all it says under default soundcard is one track called "S/PDIF"
[01:55] <cymrutree> what the... i'm not even using S/PDIF
[01:55] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Wee must mount the installed root file system to work on the installed grub, we can try an easier way to mount the root file system, ot take the lomg sure way .. It does not mater to me which way we go . I Think we will arrive at a solution either way.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> lomb/long*
[01:56] <quatrox> cymrutree: sound card controls are often misnamed
[01:56] <cymrutree> ok
[01:57] <Bashing-om> !changeroot
[01:57] <HikaruBG> guys
[01:57] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: OK I read about chroot a minute ago. No I did not do that yet. Ubuntu is installed on a drive with a bunch of partitions (home, boot, cache, something else I don't remember) I can see all them file systems but none of them are mounted.
[01:57] <HikaruBG> is there a blueray player for Ubuntu?
[01:57] <cymrutree> so if skype is totally shut off it should still be able to mess with the volume settings?
[01:57] <quatrox> cymrutree: Sound Blaster Audigy had 1000 different hardware editions and there were no way to detect which one in software.  Therefore, do not always trust the names on the ALSA controls
[01:57] <Bashing-om> !change root
[01:57] <quatrox> cymrutree: no
[01:57] <cymrutree> ok
[01:58] <cymrutree> well there's the same problem when skype is off
[01:58] <sjohnson> why doesn't apt-get remove take out "service --status-all" entries?
[01:58] <HikaruBG> Guys - anyone on the blueray player for ubuntu? is there one?
[01:59] <quatrox> cymrutree: then I have no idea
[01:59] <LtDan> Still confused. Thank you anyway.
[01:59] <cymrutree> all right well thanks
[01:59] <sjohnson> tangibly related, i can't get "service ircd-ratbox <anything>" to return anything.  it literally just does nothing.
[01:59] <cymrutree> somewhere else says I should try reinstalling alsa and pulse
[02:00] <pushnell> Any Ruby devs in the house?  I’m on Trusty with updated apt-cache and trying to set up my first ruby environment.  I have the ‘ruby1.9.1’ package installed, but 'ri' doesn’t have documentation for the language classes.  (`ri Hash` returns "Nothing known about Hash").  #ruby says that language docs are normally installed as a part of the build process, so “Ubuntu must have put it somewhere”.  I haven’t found a package
[02:00] <pushnell> yet which seems to provide this…  any suggestions?
[02:01] <quatrox> LtDan: still trying to copy your bookmarks?
[02:01] <cymrutree> is that viable?
[02:01] <cymrutree> to reinstall alsa and pulse?
[02:01] <samthewildone> usr13, okay fail
[02:01] <samthewildone> usr13, So I have to assign IP to printer through router.
[02:01] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Let's try the less confusing method . We must know the root partition -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebin <- . Then we mount that root partiton for access from the liveDVD, sound good to you ?
[02:02] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: OK let's try it the easier way. I just want to be up and running so I can do my work. I am going to format everything in a month anyways and rejigger some stuff.
[02:02] <quatrox> cymrutree: I don't know
[02:02] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: Yes. One moment please.
[02:02] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Sure, no problem .. awaiting the url from the 'fdisk' command.
[02:03] <samthewildone> usr13, I'm in the router but, I don't see any printer stuff
[02:04] <quatrox> samthewildone: try to google the specs for your router and check if it supports printers
[02:05] <t0ntin> Hi, all! After I did a software update, I was no longer able to use Unity. It is all messed up. The launcher is gone, the menu bar is gone. Cannot access the terminal. I have to log into Gnome. Is there a way to fix it? Google was not much help. I'm a beginner.
[02:05] <quatrox> t0ntin: try to create a new user and see if that helps
[02:06] <t0ntin> quatrox, I'll try it. Thanks.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Are you un-certain, confused at this point ? What can I do to help ?
[02:10] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: No I was logging into IRC from the other computer so I can cut and paste: http://pastebin.com/mwdNra5W
[02:10] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: ckecking http://pastebin.com/mwdNra5W.
[02:12] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: pastebin is covered up at this time, give it a few to settle down .. Will try again in a few tics.
[02:12] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: thank you. I am standing by.
[02:13] <HikaruBG> hey guys - any way how to play Bluray movies in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <HikaruBG> my Laptop has a bluray player I would like to use it
[02:15] <html> HikaruBG,  use vlc player abd the restricted extras package?
[02:15] <t0ntin> It worked. Does this mean I won't be able to use the other account?
[02:15] <quatrox> HikaruBG: Did you try to google it?
[02:15] <quatrox> HikaruBG: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blueray+ubuntu+howto
[02:16] <quatrox> t0ntin: it means your old account has some settings which it not compatible
[02:16] <HikaruBG> quatrox, yes - I am working on that now, but what google says didn;t work for me ....
[02:16] <t0ntin> quatrox, any ideas to try and fix it?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: "The util fdisk doesn't support GPT." Different tool here required -> sudo parted -l | pastebinit <-. See if that will give us enough info .
[02:17] <quatrox> t0ntin: open a shell and switch user: sudo -u OLD_USER_NAME -i
[02:17] <HikaruBG> quatrox, got it
[02:17] <HikaruBG> :)
[02:18] <HikaruBG> i was missing a aasc key file
[02:18] <HikaruBG> ;)
[02:18] <quatrox> HikaruBG: aha
[02:18] <HikaruBG> haha - I have bluray on my Ubuntu!!! :D :D :D
[02:18] <HikaruBG> I am so happy now!
[02:18] <quatrox> nice
[02:18] <OldSchool> that's pretty cool you can pipe output right to pastebin. I never knew that.
[02:18] <t0ntin> quatrox, ok
[02:19] <quatrox> t0ntin: then make a new directory: mkdir oldstuff
[02:19] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: It is always a process of learning, we will never know it all about everything .
[02:19] <t0ntin> quatrox, done
[02:20] <quatrox> t0ntin: move all configs to that: mv .* oldstuff
[02:20] <html> HikaruBG,  did you resolve your issue>
[02:20] <quatrox> t0ntin: then move back what you want to keep: mv oldstuff/.mozilla .
[02:21] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ
[02:21] <t0ntin> quatrox, do I type exactly what you typed for that last one?
[02:21] <quatrox> yes
[02:21] <amyxu> ##urw
[02:21] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: look'n at http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ .
[02:21] <t0ntin> ok
[02:21] <quatrox> t0ntin: then log out and log in again as the old user
[02:23] <HikaruBG> yes, html I have it resolved! Thanks!
[02:23] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: This used to be a Windows 7 Dual boot computer but I haven't used Windows in months, so I unplugged the disks that Windows ever touched to keep things simple and help with troubleshooting. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with these GPT partition tables.
[02:24] <OldSchool> Like maybe Windows put it on there at some point or something.
[02:24] <html> HikaruBG,  how did you resovle your issue?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: A bit concerned with that out put. Let's use a more indepth tool -> sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit <- .
[02:24] <OldSchool> html: <HikaruBG> i was missing a aasc key file
[02:25] <t0ntin> quatrox, it says this: missing destination file operand after ‘oldstuff/.mozilla.
[02:25] <html> OldSchool,  in not sure what that was
[02:25] <html> OldSchool,  is*
[02:26] <quatrox> t0ntin: "mv oldstuff/.mozilla  ."
[02:26] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: GPT is the better partitioing scheme IF it is consistent .
[02:26] <quatrox> the space before the final period is important
[02:26] <quatrox> t0ntin: a period (.) alone means current directory
[02:26] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/
[02:27] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: lookin at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/ .
[02:27] <OldSchool> html: That is how he fixed his bluray, I think. I saw you ask him.
[02:27] <t0ntin> quatrox, ok, I see.
[02:29] <quatrox> t0ntin: if you use thunderbird, skype, pidgin or any other program, you might want to move their settings too.
[02:29] <quatrox> t0ntin: feel free to ask
[02:29] <html> OldSchool,  yes i did.
[02:29] <html> OldSchool,  i was goning to ask you to install vlc and other things
[02:29] <html> OldSchool,  here is the command if you want it sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install vlc ubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-addons -y
[02:30] <samthewildone> When encrypting my desktop will it be shown on the network ?
[02:30] <OldSchool> html: I was not the one with blu ray problems. It wasthe other guy. He said his blu ray is running. I was just trying to help cuz you asked how he fixed it and he didn't answer so I copy/pasted his answer for you. Not sure if that fixes your curiosity or not, though.
[02:31] <t0ntin> yeah, I have a few programs I use: skype, chromium, thunderbird. Do I use the same command for those?
[02:31] <html> OldSchool,  XD
[02:31] <quatrox> samthewildone: encryptions are unrelated to network shares
[02:31] <OldSchool> html: I am lucky if I can get my grubs to work. Bashing-om is helping me with that.
[02:31] <quatrox> t0ntin: mv oldstuff/.Skype .
[02:31] <html> OldSchool,  i still have problems with grub...
[02:32] <samthewildone> If it its unrelated then how come my computer out of the whole house is not showing up on my router page ?
[02:32] <samthewildone> Everything else shows... all my other devices.
[02:32] <samthewildone> Except my computer ?
[02:32] <quatrox> t0ntin: mv oldstuff/.thunderbird .
[02:33] <quatrox> t0ntin: I am not sure where chromium is stored.  You might see it if you do: ls -a oldstuff/
[02:33] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: This had now gotten above my skill level: "GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.8 >> MBR: MBR only >> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR;" Those with the experience of fixing the partition table are going to be required to baol us out of this one, I think !
[02:34] <t0ntin> quatrox, I'm getting this: cannot stat ‘oldstuff/.thunderbird’: No such file or directory
[02:34] <Bashing-om> baol/bail*
[02:34] <samthewildone> quatrox, so what then ?
[02:34] <quatrox> t0ntin: then you didn't use it on that account
[02:35] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: can I just try reinstalling on top of everything and hoping that it doesn't nuke my programs and files?
[02:35] <quatrox> samthewildone: not sure
[02:35] <t0ntin> quatrox,  I had it on the one that stopped working
[02:35] <OldSchool> That is what started this mess in the first place, but that was before I unplugged the Windows harddrives.
[02:36] <quatrox> t0ntin: strange.  Maybe it saved it preferences under .mozilla or something
[02:37] <quatrox> t0ntin: are you sure you spelled it correctly?
[02:37] <t0ntin> yes, I tried skype and thunderbird
[02:37] <Tex_Nick> samthewildone: your router dhcp list should show your workstation unless you have it assigned a static ip other that your router
[02:37] <quatrox> t0ntin: do you see thunderbird if you type: ls -a oldstuff
[02:38] <t0ntin> quatrox, I don't
[02:38] <quatrox> t0ntin: then I don't know
[02:38] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: This situation is fixable, just beyond what I have done - I have no direct experience with GPT, and you really would rather have the GPT partitioning.
[02:39] <quatrox> t0ntin: anyway, you can always set it up again:)
[02:39] <t0ntin> quatrox, set what up?
[02:39] <quatrox> t0ntin: e-mail account
[02:39] <quatrox> in thunderbird
[02:39] <t0ntin> quatrox, Oh, yes, that's not a problem
[02:40] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: Well...before I tried to upgrade, I copied my home directory and made a list of all software installed. Do you think I should just format / repartition everything instead of beating my head into the wall? It sounds like there is no good answer. BTW, thank you for all your help regardless.
[02:40] <quatrox> t0ntin: are you logged in as the old user now?
[02:40] <t0ntin> quatrox, no, I was just going to ask if I should do that
[02:40] <quatrox> yes
[02:40] <html> OldSchool,  whats going on?
[02:40] <t0ntin> ok, brb
[02:41] <OldSchool> html: grub problems, partition tables messed up I guess. http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ
[02:42] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: Upfront, will be much faster to (RE-)install and copy your data back. But this situation is fixable, and the experience will be a good thing in the long term.
[02:42] <OldSchool> html: I meant to paste this one (more recent) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/
[02:42] <html> OldSchool,  please do a full clone/backup of the data/hdd you have.
[02:42] <ragin> hi all
[02:43] <OldSchool> html: Is that like the doctor saying, "You better make sure your affairs are in order?"
[02:43] <_unreal_> heh
[02:43] <_unreal_> not far off
[02:44] <html> OldSchool,  its good practice and encouraged my the whole computer industry .
[02:45] <html> OldSchool,  stating the base rules.
[02:45] <ragin> can anybody explain me something weird I saw? I tried to ping linux.com to see if my wifi was on and I got a strange line
[02:45] <OldSchool> html: Yes. I backed up all my stuff to another drive yesterday before I started messing with this. Eventually I'm going to put a Raspberry Pi on my LAN and have it sync continuously but that ain't set up yet.
[02:45] <quatrox> ragin: what did you get?
[02:46] <html> OldSchool,  if you want to say that to give you comfort then yeah.
[02:46] <ragin> quatrox PING www.linux.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:46] <ragin> From corv-car1-gw.nero.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered
[02:46] <quatrox> same here
[02:46] <html> OldSchool,  so what is you goal?
[02:47] <OldSchool> html: right now I want a working computer.
[02:47] <html> ok, what is going on. im working blind here
[02:47] <quatrox> ragin: linux.com resolves to an IP address.  The IP address reverse resolves to a different hostname because there are several hostnames associated with that IP address
[02:47] <Bashing-om> html: OldSchool We need to install grub properly .
[02:47] <OldSchool> html: I think these problems happened because I had it set up all screwy with dual booting Windows 7 on a fake RAID setup. It messes with the grubs.
[02:47] <html> ohh...
[02:47] <quatrox> ragin: package filtered means the firewall does not allow ICMP requests
[02:48] <OldSchool> But I give up on dual boot. I barely use Windows anyways.
[02:48] <OldSchool> I can put Windows in a virtual machine if I really need it for something.
[02:48] <quatrox> s/package/packet/
[02:48] <ragin> quatrox so it's nothing to worry about? It's the first time I see this , that's why I was worried
[02:48] <quatrox> ragin: everything is OK
[02:49] <ragin> quatrox thanks alot!
[02:49] <html> OldSchool,  you are trying to do raid and a dual boot?  trying to bench press while  you eat?
[02:49] <ragin> bye guys!
[02:50] <html> OldSchool,  oh my.. that is ... * sigh  lets give it a look
[02:50] <html> bye ragin
[02:50] <OldSchool> html: X-) It worked for a few years. But it was a royal PITA to set up. I don't want to put myself through that again.
[02:50] <quatrox> ragin: but it is strange that dig ns linux.com does not show corv-carl-gw.nero.net
[02:50] <ragin> quatrox: nero.net is univerity of oregon
[02:50] <html> OldSchool,  can you boot into either side ?
[02:50] <quatrox> ragin: aha
[02:51] <html> OldSchool,  what is going on?
[02:51] <html> OldSchool,  what is going on when you boot?
[02:51] <OldSchool> html: If I only leave the windows disks plugged in, then yes it goes to Windows no problem.   I do not know what it could be the reason.  Maybe some user data is stored outside the home directory in ubuntu.  Try to ask somebody else for help.
[02:53] <OldSchool> html: honestly I am out of patience with this. I will work with it tomorrow and just reformat/repartition the linux drive
[02:53] <netameta> anyone familiar with tcl 8.5 ?
[02:54] <t0ntin> quatrox, thanks.
[02:54] <quatrox> t0ntin: and remember to tell them what you did so far:)
[02:54] <html> OldSchool,  well i have an idea what may be your iusse.
[02:55] <OldSchool> html: Wait...I just found the bug report that describes the symptoms. Bug #1289977
[02:55] <quatrox> utopian: are you in the US?
[02:56] <OldSchool> html: Bashing-om was helping me based on that webpage, then said my partitions are screwed, it's above his paygrade.
[02:58] <quatrox> well, I am going offline.  See you again
[02:59] <eeee> OldSchool: did you write it to disk?
[03:00] <OldSchool> eeee: did I write what to disk?
[03:01] <eeee> you had a link to a paste earlier
[03:01] <eeee> looked like you used gdisk,
[03:02] <eeee> did you write the partition table to disk? ( w , then enter )
[03:02] <PCworker> hello all, I am trying to remember how-to update the "clamTK" using the terminal. Who can tell me the proper command to use to do that?
[03:03] <OldSchool> eeee: You mean this one? http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ I control-C it because I didn't know what to do
[03:03] <SchrodingersScat> PCworker: might be freshclam
[03:03] <PCworker> that's right, thanks.
[03:03] <TylerE> How can I make audio stay active all the time? I am outputing sound via DIgital Out and Ubuntu keeps deactivating the connection when it's silent for a while - the problem is it can take as long as 5 seconds for my stereo receiver to start playing audio again.
[03:03] <TylerE> So if it's something like an alert sound I *never hear it*
[03:04] <Kristie23>  You can find funny videos here. http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[03:05] <SchrodingersScat> very doubtful, also this is ubuntu support not your spam board
[03:05] <eeee> OldSchool: so you had a mbr ? and you used gdisk? and it converted it to gpt?
[03:05] <OldSchool> eeee: I have no idea. html or Bashing-om may be able to answer that question.
[03:06] <OldSchool> eeee: When it asked if it's a GPT partition table, I just hit control C because I got scared.
[03:06] <eeee> i mean the earlier paste
[03:06] <gasull> does dpkg automatically install dependencies?
[03:06] <eeee> or later paste, i dont know
[03:07] <eeee> when you used gdisk
[03:07] <OldSchool> eeee: http://pastebin.com/mwdNra5W http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/ those are all my pastes.
[03:07] <OldSchool> plus the other one I jst repasted.
[03:07] <eeee> yeah, i mean the 2nd one
[03:08] <darius93> how do i disable vsync with the opensource radeon drivers?
[03:08] <Tex_Nick> Kristie23 : that's NOT funny ... you need to NOT make post's like that ... this is a family oriented channel !!!
[03:08] <OldSchool> eeee: I am sorry I do not understand the question.
[03:09] <Bashing-om> eeee: OldSchool // To this time all "we" have done is look, and "parted -l" says the partition table is hosed .
[03:09] <OldSchool> eeee: It says: "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory. " So I guess it just converted it in RAM but did'nt write to disk
[03:16] <html> OldSchool,  what is the raid set up like?
[03:17] <OldSchool> html: At this point, all RAID disks are unplugged. It used to be 1 HDD for Windows 7 and a motherboard-controlled RAID sort of thing thta used a solid state drive as a Windows cache disk.
[03:18] <OldSchool> html: So any of the pastes that I put up I did AFTER I unplugged the RAID disks.
[03:18] <OldSchool> It was some fancy motherboard chipset that Intel had out a few years ago. More trouble than it's worth, IMO.
[03:19] <html> OldSchool,  ok well i need you to do a full write up on this so we are not using more time then need by asking faq and rehased questions. something we can use as a great starting point
[03:20] <OldSchool> I can do that I guess before just saying screw it and nuking everything. Where should I post it?
[03:20] <html> OldSchool,  that means what your raid setup?  what kind is it ? what os did you install first then the next one?
[03:21] <TylerE> I swear PulseAudio is the mode confusing blasted thing ever. How hard is to downmix everything to 44.1/16, output via a specified device, AND DON"T TRY TO DO ANYTHING FANCY BECAUSE PULSEAUDIO IS LOBOTOMIZED AND CLUELESS
[03:21] <eeee> OldSchool: ok, just read the stuff you posted earlier, i had just seen the link you pasted
[03:21] <html> OldSchool,  pastebin?  [you can edit the old ones
[03:21] <TylerE> god this crap was so much easier 15 years ago with OSS
[03:21] <OldSchool> Well that's the thing. I set it up years ago and have been running Ubuntu 12.10 then I tried to update it last night and the trouble began. So I don't remember a lot of things from 3 years ago.
[03:23] <html> OldSchool,  well the easiest and most reckless way is to wipe the linux side and do a fresh install to 14.04
[03:23] <html> TylerE,  what do yo mean?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> eeee: OldSchool //Nuke the raid meta data ?? and try and fix the partition table ??
[03:24] <OldSchool> html: I just verified that the files in my home directory are safe, so I don't have a problem with that. Can I do anything cool with a 64 GB solid state disk since I don't need it for a Windows cache drive anymore?
[03:24] <TylerE> html: I want to output 44.1/16 via my SP-DIF. I don't want Pulse to try to idle the connection (because that causes my receiver to make an annoying click) I don't want pule to muck with volume I don't want pulse to redirect anything
[03:24] <OldSchool> like maybe put the /boot partition on it or something?
[03:26] <html> TylerE,  oh.. well hang around for a bit someone may know what to do. during that time try to google it..
[03:26] <sydney> OldSchool: Yes,you could
[03:27] <OldSchool> what is the best way to get max performance using the SSD? use it as /boot? or is there a better idea?
[03:27] <sydney> OldSchool: us it as /
[03:27] <html> OldSchool,  well using a ssd as the boot drive would have many positives, then the raid and handle your data, which is meant to do.
[03:28] <OldSchool> html: I give up on RAID. from what I hear, Ubuntu hates motherboard-based RAID. Last time, people on IRC made fun of me and said my RAID was fake.
[03:28] <html> OldSchool,  you have to do things[configure] a bit differently when you install something/store data
[03:28] <OldSchool> I wound up segregating my dual-boot so only Windows 7 used the raid
[03:29] <html> OldSchool, huh? fake.. its doable...
[03:29] <OldSchool> I had a bunch of people say the same thing, then they eventually all gave up.
[03:30] <OldSchool> they were hooking into my computer with X11VNC and all sorts of stuff
[03:30] <OldSchool> So I don't want to put myself through that again. This was back in 2012 since Ubuntu 12.04 was out.
[03:34] <html> OldSchool,  x11vnc?  ------teamveiwer ??---
[03:34] <OldSchool> yes. The linux version that does the same thing.
[03:34] <html> OldSchool,  well i need your hardware setup
[03:34] <html> yes oh course..
[03:35] <html> i use teamveiwer on everyting
[03:35] <html> amlost anything i can.
[03:36] <html> OldSchool,  would you want to voip chat with me?
[03:36] <OldSchool> html: I am typing up my hardware setup now.  I am lucky to get 35 kB/second downloads
[03:37] <sydney> :)
[03:37] <html> lol then mumble would work fine
[03:38] <Blaster> Hey guys.
[03:38] <Blaster> I have an external HDD which automatically mounts itself as fuseblk, but I need the www-data to be able to read data from it.
[03:39] <Blaster> How can I remount it so I can allow that to happen?
[03:43] <teward> Blaster: maybe this will help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-do-i-use-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[03:43] <html> ahhh bacon and groups?
[03:44] <Blaster> teward: Touche. Thanks.
[03:44] <Blaster> Now I just need to figure out what “-o rw,auto,user,fmask=0022,dmask=0000” means.
[03:47] <royadev> Hi everyone!!
[03:47] <sydney> I don't understand it,my keyboard acts like i don't type correctly. its forgets halfof the kes i type?
[03:47] <sydney> keys*
[03:48] <teward> Blaster: rw = read write, auto = automatic mount, user = mounting by users is permitted, fmask = umask applied to regular files, dmask = umask applied to directories.  umask = bit mask of the permissions that are NOT present.  (i.e. 0022 = 755 basically)
[03:48] <teward> Blaster: courtesy of the manpage - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/mount.8.html
[03:48] <sydney> it just makes no sense.Or is it fixed now?
[03:48] <Blaster> teward: You da man!
[03:48] <teward> Blaster: helps when you're in the right channels ;)
[03:48] <Blaster> I just have to get the UUID of that external so I can add an fstab entry.
[03:49] <teward> Blaster: FWIW though, the manpages are useful :)
[03:49] <Blaster> Yeah I was reading it, I'm looking at the Mount options for ntfs right now.
[03:50] <sydney> hmm,i think its fixed. :)
[03:51] <Blaster> My device is located at /dev/sdc1 but `blkid /dev/sdc1` doesn't give an output.
[03:51] <Blaster> Trying to get the UUID.
[03:52] <Blaster> Okay I could see it by doing `ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid` and it says it's like `10408FCA808FBA54`.
[03:52] <Blaster> That doesn't even look like a UUID to me teward.
[03:53] <gr33n7007h> Blaster, just blkid, see what pops up
[03:53] <Blaster> Read ^.
[03:53] <Blaster> I did blkid and nothing came up.
[03:53] <teward> Blaster: sudo blkid
[03:54] <Blaster> Wise.
[03:54] <Blaster> So apparently that is the UUID.  Doesn't look like any of the ones I have seen before though.
[03:59] <Blaster> teward: The man pages don't even mention the fmask and dmask options, all I see is uid, gid, and umask.
[03:59] <teward> Blaster: true i was answering your question earlier ;)
[04:00] <teward> uid = user id, gid = group id, umask = permissions mask of what isn't present (like before)
[04:00] <Blaster> That askubuntu answer says to use those.
[04:00] <Blaster> fmask and dmask.
[04:00] <teward> Blaster: use whichever, but before making an fstab entry try just providing them as mount options
[04:01] <teward> note experimentation sometimes bricks drives
[04:01] <Blaster> teward: What do you mean by "permissions mask of what isn't present".
[04:01] <teward> (NTFS and UNIX file permissions are always going to be problematic like this)
[04:01] <teward> Blaster: did you see my initial answer to your first question of what the arguments meant?
[04:01] <Blaster> There is sensitive data on this drive.
[04:01] <Blaster> Yes.
[04:01] <teward> [2014/09/14 23:48:02] <teward> Blaster: ...  umask = bit mask of the permissions that are NOT present.  (i.e. 0022 = 755 basically)
[04:02] <teward> and with that, sleep time, it's late
[04:02] <Blaster> I just don't get what you mean by not present.
[04:02] <Blaster> Okay.
[04:02] <Blaster> Thanks for the help!
[04:13] <urielvigilant> I have lots of time invested in my Lubuntu 14.04.1, after intallastion. Time asking "How to do it" here and on google, to make my wifi laptop work, to make my pen 4G Lte work, to make my scanner and printer work, to improve graphics, to have wine, to make it Hibernate, to make it read DVDs, an other stuffs i dont remember now. So if i need one day to install a new version on another laptop...
[04:13] <urielvigilant> ...with this configurations , how to do it ?
[04:14] <yofun> So I have the PPA https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin installed. and I installed bitcoin-qt It installed version 4.8.6, how can I get <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:16] <urielvigilant> yofun bitcoins is faster on linux ?
[04:17] <urielvigilant> you
[04:17] <urielvigilant> yofun   you can mine more bitcoin using linux ?
[04:24] <yofun> urielvigilant:  Never mind, I got the lastest version I was looking at it wrong.
[04:24] <yofun> urielvigilant:  I dont mine.
[04:24] <yofun> Well...I do... but not on my laptoo
[04:24] <yofun> laptop
[04:33] <satix> Ello
[04:35] <malkauns_> hi
[04:35] <urielvigilant> hi
[04:35] <lookingforbill> hi guys
[04:36] <satix> Any hot news on ubuntu phone
[04:36] <urielvigilant> yofun do you have mine machines ? they use linux ?=
[04:36] <somsip> !touch | satix
[04:36] <urielvigilant> yofun i mean that kind of mine machinas like this 2 to 3TH/s
[04:37] <lookingforbill> does anyknow where i can find the ubuntu support channel?
[04:37] <malkauns_> LOL
[04:37] <satix> You found it
[04:37]  * gr33n7007h follow the white rabbit.....
[04:37] <malkauns_> lookingforbill: that a joke?
[04:37] <lookingforbill> that was esay
[04:38] <lookingforbill> anyone know about hp boot loader compatability isues
[04:41] <yofun> urielvigilant:  I do cloud mining :p
[04:41] <malkauns_> lookingforbill: ask a specific question
[04:42] <urielvigilant> yofun how many bitcoins you think you can mine with a minimum hashing speed of 3TH/s actually per day ?
[04:42] <somsip> !ot | urielvigilant
[04:42] <yofun> Errr I dont know. I have 11MH, I make .0071 btc a day
[04:43] <lookingforbill> Hp with a amd64 processor, I loaded the os to the disk but it won't boot off the hard disk, the hard drive is fine, I am trying to resolve the read error
[04:50] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- to show what we are working with, and where the boot code should be installed .
[04:57] <lookingforbill> It comes back with an error "GPT Guid partition table" detected on /dev/sda util fdisk doesn't support gnu parted
[04:57] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: Are you lost ? Additional guidance needed ?
[05:00] <lookingforbill> the processor doen't seem to support the uefi, I set it to legacy boot but it still doesn't work when i load the 64 bit 14.04.1 lt worked with the 32 is there a special partition style I need to use?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: Oh Boy, UEFI .. OK, are you dual booting Windows ?
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> so i finally upgraded precise to trusty and i have a couple hiccups
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> text antialiasing is not working right
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> the screen is hard to read
[05:04] <volkan> Hi, on the bar there is an error icon says "A problem occured when checking for the updates". Do you know how can I fix that problem?
[05:05] <lookingforbill> no I installed it to the whole disk, I had windows 8 on it than changed to ubuntu 12.0 32 with the full disk, I was able to run the 32 lke that. It doesn't seem to want to read it now though with the 64bit I have it set to legacy now aswell
[05:08] <josh0x0> hey guys. I ran an “aptitude upgrade” on an EC2 server and it’s been stuck on “/usr/sbin/update-grub-legacy-ec2” for over 40 minutes. i don’t remember non-dist upgrades taking so long, esp 1 step. is this normal?
[05:08] <josh0x0> ^^^ ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[05:08] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: Well, Window8=UEFI=64bits. Ubuntu does install in UEFI mode and the 64 bit OS is recommended.
[05:08] <simonjr45> i am not able to install steam on my netbook emachines
[05:09] <simonjr45> why is that?
[05:09] <Mathuin> Any hints on disabling efifb on trusty tahr ?
[05:09] <Mathuin> I think it's interfering with my nvidia drivers, based on a message I'm getting in dmesg.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !steam | simonjr45
[05:10] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: It is past my thinkability tiem, and this may tale a bit of time. I am calling ot for this session. Others will respond and get ya up and running.
[05:10] <lookingforbill> Thanks,
[05:10] <simonjr45> thanx for the info ubottu and lotuspsychje
[05:11] <simonjr45> does anyone here know how to rectify the problem with front panel audio jack not functioning in ubuntu 14.04
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: you can also try playonlinux for gaming on ubuntu
[05:11] <simonjr45> i c I could go there as well
[05:12] <simonjr45> I didn't know linux platform had so many games website
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | simonjr45
[05:12] <simonjr45> I am very new to ubuntu and linux
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: its a package to install
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Mathuin: wich card and wich error plz?
[05:13] <simonjr45> do I need to install an antivirus software on ubuntu ... I can't find any on the software centre
[05:13] <simonjr45> what if there is a hacker or virus attack?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !security | simonjr45
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: its always good to have common sense, even on ubuntu
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: clamav rkhunter iptables might help you
[05:14] <simonjr45> oh ok thanx anyway
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: and a strong root password
[05:15] <simonjr45> nobody has answered my problem with the front audio jack on ubuntu
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:21 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> so i finally upgraded precise to trusty and i have a couple hiccups
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:43 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> text antialiasing is not working right
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:51 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> the screen is hard to read
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !sound > simonjr45
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: your grafix card good enough to run?
[05:17] <DonkeyHotei> geforce 8600 using binary drivers
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: tryed other drivers yet?
[05:17] <DonkeyHotei> "other" ?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: doublecheck 'additional drivers' section
[05:18] <DonkeyHotei> i have nvidia-331-updates selected
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: you have other drivers in list to test?
[05:21] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: mostly "legacy" drivers. i think i have a corrupt setting in unity
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: did you install ubuntu with internet connection?
[05:22] <netlar> Need help with the App Drawers, I it is not working properly
[05:22] <netlar> You cannot add apps to it anymore
[05:23] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: yes
[05:23] <netlar> Does not appear to be working on 14.04
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: unity restart then maybe
[05:24] <DonkeyHotei> what's a unity restart?
[05:24] <BQ_> there are /dev/sda1 sda2 and sda5 for new installation. sda1 is for system, sda5 is for swap, what is for sda2?
[05:26] <netlar> It says Drawers is compatible for 14.04 and it is in the official repository
[05:26] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: It's rebooting, as soon as it comes up I will tell you which card.  The error is "Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in corruption and stability problems, and is not supported."
[05:26] <matty_r> BQ_ data
[05:27] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: GeForce GTX 560 Ti running driver version 340.32.
[05:27] <netlar> Or is there someway to group apps on the launcher
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: try unity --replace
[05:28] <BQ_> matty_r: I don't use it in fstab.
[05:28] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: would that do anything a reboot wouldn't?
[05:28] <BQ_> matty_r: I don't see it in fstab.
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: you might do a reboot after yes
[05:28] <varela> hola
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !es | varela
[05:29] <BQ_> matty_r: also don't see it in "df".
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> BQ_: try gparted to see whats going on
[05:29] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: i've rebooted several times already
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: but not yet with a unity restart
[05:30] <matty_r> BQ_ Where are you running df from?
[05:30] <BQ_> matty_r: my user account
[05:30] <matty_r> Did you setup the partitions manually? Or did the installer do it?
[05:31] <BQ_> matty_r: it is fresh install. no manual
[05:32] <matty_r> BQ_ Run command sudo blkid
[05:33] <matty_r> are all partitions listed?
[05:33] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: ok, that didn't do it
[05:34] <BQ_> matty_r: only sda1 and sda5
[05:35] <matty_r> BQ_ using df, do the sizes add up to the entire drive?
[05:39] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: is there any antialias control in gsettings?
[05:40] <darius93> how do i disable vsync with the opensource radeon drivers?
[05:42] <BQ> matty_r: df only shows sda1 about 5G, not sure how much swap. total is 8G
[05:42] <BQ> matty_r: df only shows sda1 about 5G, not sure how much swap. total is 8G
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: i think there's a package with nvidia settings
[05:43] <BQ> lotuspsychje: gparted shows sda2 is empty
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-settings | DonkeyHotei
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> BQ: empty partition on your first HD?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> BQ: active or unallocated?
[05:45] <BQ> lotuspsychje: oh actually no. sda2 has 1G but not active.
[05:45] <Caramoan> i try steam to install in ubuntu 14.04, sudo apt-get install steam -y like this but unable to fetch some archives..
[05:45] <BQ> lotuspsychje: it shows sda2 is an extended FS.
[05:46] <BQ> lotuspsychje: what is in your system?
[05:46] <Snake2k> Ubuntu > Life
[05:46]  * Snake2k hugs Ubuntu.
[05:46] <BQ> matty_r: df only shows sda1 about 5G, not sure how much swap. total is 8G
[05:47] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: nvidia-settings doesn't seem to affect it. i'm convinced unity/compiz are to blame
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: did you already try unity --replace ?
[05:50] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: try another window manager to test
[05:52] <optrustylistener> Help! Right after i installed ubuntu 14.04 my whole computer froze
[05:52] <DonkeyHotei> i tried gnome classic, didn't have this issue
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: maybe try disable compiz settings, like active blur
[05:57] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: where do i find active blur?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | DonkeyHotei
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: you can disable background blur with it
[05:58] <BQ> lotuspsychje: ok i think it is an extended partition used as a mark if your use is beyond sda4, like old partition sheme.
[05:58] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: where do i find background blur?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> BQ: if this belongs to your first HD, i would go reinstall ubuntu with whole hd reformat
[05:59] <BQ> lotuspsychje: it does not accupy space. just an extension marker for sda5.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> BQ: can you place a screenshot of it?
[05:59] <optrustylistener> Anybody help
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !details | optrustylistener
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: did you install it?
[06:00] <DonkeyHotei> i have it open
[06:00] <BQ> lotuspsychje: why do I need to reinstall? it is just as intended by ubuntu. it is a fresh install.
[06:01] <BQ> lotuspsychje: you can check your own system. it should be the same thing.
[06:01] <DonkeyHotei> found active blur under dash blur, no effect
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: set to no effect yes
[06:01] <optrustylistener> Lotuspsychje either I am laggy or were you trying to get ubottu
[06:01] <DonkeyHotei> i mean disabling it had no effect
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: try a reboot after
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: could be also a bug on your system, or need of kernel update
[06:02] <DonkeyHotei> but isn't dash blur only for the dash?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: doublecheck your /var/log/syslog for errors or dmesg
[06:04] <BQ> how to check from which one of 4 repositories is the software just intalled via apt-get install?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> BQ: software sources
[06:05] <optrustylistener> So my problem is that when after I installed Ubuntu 14.04 my computer froze on the laptop
[06:06]  * iam3fun Good morning :)
[06:09] <BQ> optrustylistener: restart
[06:09] <optrustylistener> Will anyone help me
[06:10] <optrustylistener> Bq what do you mean restart
[06:10] <BQ> restart your laptop
[06:11] <optrustylistener> estart my comp
[06:11] <optrustylistener> bq oh its not a simple fix
[06:12] <optrustylistener> bq I restarted it about 5 times
[06:12] <BQ> restart from a live libux usb
[06:13] <Mathuin> How can I tell what partitions have GRUB 2 installed on them?
[06:13] <optrustylistener> bq I have been like completely locked out of my system no f2 or f12
[06:13] <BQ> why no f2 or f12?
[06:14] <cat__> Can anyone tell me the easiest and most secure way of changing Ubuntu 14.04's color scheme? I'm sure it has something to do with Gnome, but that's about it..
[06:14] <optrustylistener> bq  completely
[06:15] <BQ> what do you mean?
[06:15] <optrustylistener> BBQ I press it but it does not respond
[06:15] <optrustylistener> orry spell checker bq
[06:16] <SP33D> oh allmighty ubuntu community plz tell me what would you do if you would whant to get simply all files in /var/log always rendered to stdout and stderr
[06:16] <BQ> press longer
[06:17] <optrustylistener> bq I did it for 10 seconds at least
[06:18] <BQ> any output in your screen?
[06:19] <optrustylistener> Bq ^^^^
[06:19] <optrustylistener> bq just Toshiba leading innovation logo
[06:22] <BQ> if you restarted many times and no luck, then maybe it is time for you either repair yourself or goto repair shop.
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:21 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> so i finally upgraded precise to trusty and i have a couple hiccups
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:43 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> text antialiasing is not working right
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:51 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> the screen is hard to read
[06:23] <BQ> you can open your laptop and remove the hard disk, then try reboot from a linux usb stick
[06:33] <wafflejock> SP33D: maybe something like tail -f /var/log/*.log
[06:34] <wafflejock> or even tail -f /var/log*
[06:34] <wafflejock> er rather tail -f /var/log/*
[06:34] <wafflejock> also multitail is pretty nice for just a few at a time
[06:34] <rcmaehl_webchat> How do I use bluetooth for things OTHER than file transfers on Ubuntu?
[06:35] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: not sure just been fiddling with the bluetooth audio but it doesn't do everything I want it to
[06:35] <sjoshi> Hello, I am getting Kernel panic! where i can find and provide more information on this
[06:35] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: what are you trying to do in particular
[06:35] <Mathuin> rcmaehl_webchat: it "just works" with PS3 controllers and Steam if you install qtsixa and pair the controllers.
[06:35] <rcmaehl_webchat> wafflejock: mainly tethering over bluetooth
[06:36] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: oh that actually just seems to work out of the box on Ubuntu Gnome, I just go to the settings panel open bluetooth and paired my phone it asked if I wanted it to add it as a PAN device for data I said yes and now it's an option in my wifi panel
[06:36] <rcmaehl_webchat> So I need ubuntu gnome :|
[06:36] <rcmaehl_webchat> or whatever package it uses
[06:37] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: don't think so
[06:37] <wafflejock> yeah
[06:37] <wafflejock> maybe some packages
[06:37] <rcmaehl_webchat> which is like 1 out of a couple hundred
[06:37] <wafflejock> yeah PAN is just a toggle button in my bluetooth settings panel
[06:37] <wafflejock> er checkbox whateves
[06:39] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: it's in the gnome-control-center
[06:40] <wafflejock> but not sure if that automatically includes all the bluetooth parts needed or that panel in particular
[06:44] <waykool99> i'm testing Lubuntu v14.04.4 both amd64 and i386. in GUI can Xfce and/or Gnome 2 or 3 co-exist with LXDE?
[06:49] <gr33n7007h> waykool99, yep
[06:50] <waykool99> gr33n7007h thank you.
[06:52] <gr33n7007h> waykool99, to choose your default use update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[06:52] <waykool99> i love this Lubuntu. reminds of years ago using knoppix live cd/dvd. has the same look and feel. can multi-task many programs at once. pound swappiness = 10 keeps crashes down.
[06:53] <waykool99> *keeps crashes down
[06:53] <waykool99> really? thx again
[06:54] <waykool99> i have to ask... where is the real Swappiness setting? spent hours looking. no luck.
[06:57] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to rename all files in folder from terminal ? I have bunch of files randomly named and would like to name them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,....
[06:57] <neredsenvy> I really don't want to thinker in C right now
[06:59] <somsip> neredsenvy: write a bash script. something like COUNT=1; for file in ./ do; mv $file $COUNT; done; That probably won't work but gives you the idea
[07:01] <wafflejock> I typically default to Java with stuff like that but yeah bash is probably the easiest way
[07:02] <pooky> I'm trying to recompile the php5 package to include some additional flags, but after it finishes it tries to run some mysql tests which fail. When I've looked into the issue online it says it's related to app armor. I tried adding the path to apparmor but it has not cleared up the issue. Any suggestions or advice?
[07:04] <waykool99> does "freshclam" normally have giant downloads, 100% CPU, 98% RAM, 20% Swap, pc lag?
[07:06] <waykool99> yet freshclam doesn't use much CPU cycles.
[07:07] <wafflejock> waykool99: not sure about all of that but clamav definitely takes a lot of memory
[07:08] <waykool99> in Task Manager, trying to figure out what's "Nice", "Priority"?
[07:08] <waykool99> waffle yes you're correct
[07:09] <neredsenvy> somsip: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3b91660307755df1f9f8 I have it like this however I get unknown command
[07:10] <neredsenvy> when i do sudo ./rename.sh
[07:10] <neredsenvy> well command not found to be correct
[07:10] <wafflejock> waykool99: niceness/priorty has to do with how the CPU schedules the processes http://askubuntu.com/questions/48708/change-niceness-priority-of-a-running-process
[07:11] <waykool99> waffle, again thx. after typing my brains out, you just answered my question. lol
[07:13] <wafflejock> waykool99: np there is a nice explanation of it on wikipedia too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix)
[07:13] <damccull> so I want to do a fresh install of 14.04. I backed up my home folder, but now I want to back up my software selection so I can tell it to automatically reinstall somehow on the back end. I would like to do this without a gui. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[07:13] <waykool99> again thank you Wafflejock.  BTW kool name. :)
[07:13] <wafflejock> damccull: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[07:14] <wafflejock> waykool99: hehe thanks so like it some don't been using it for like 17 years though so probably won't change :)
[07:15] <damccull> why dpkg instead of apt-get or aptitude?
[07:15] <wafflejock> damccull: apt-get uses dpkg anyhow I'm pretty sure
[07:15] <damccull> oic
[07:16] <wafflejock> there's quite a few ways to go about it in that SO post though
[07:16] <waykool99> so Nice Processes started from France beautiful land and fine wine. no offense to California wine, which i love.
[07:16] <wafflejock> typically I just do it myself I don't have a million packages and it gives me a chance to clean up
[07:17] <wafflejock> damccull: also if you just backup your .config folders in your home folder you can usually see what you had installed and just get the latest of that
[07:17] <damccull> what .config folder?
[07:17] <wafflejock> damccull: if you have a NAS or external drive use clonezilla to get a full snapshot or rsync to copy your home folder and whatever else you might want first
[07:18] <wafflejock> damccull: just mean general dot files in your home folder
[07:18] <damccull> ah i see
[07:18] <waykool99> years ago apt-get autoremove -or- Janitor used to trash libcssdvd2. (spelling)
[07:18] <wafflejock> damccull: the hidden files for various programs like .filezilla or whatever
[07:18] <damccull> actually i can't NAS this :( It's a remote server
[07:18] <damccull> aside from my home dir, where else might i want to save configuration from?
[07:18] <wafflejock> damccull: ah well you should be able to still rsync, is it a VPS? if so usually you have a snapshot option
[07:19] <wafflejock> damccull: /etc/ will have other config stuff at a system level
[07:20] <damccull> it's a vps yes. I have taken a backup, but I still have to download my stuff cause my provider doesn't have a way to mount backups as readable
[07:20] <damccull> and i need to image the vps with their 14.04 template
[07:20] <wafflejock> damccull: ah gotcha, can't just spin up an extra instance for transferring things?
[07:20] <damccull> wafflejock: i spose if i wanted to pay for another instance this month ;)
[07:20] <waykool99> i have lots of spare ATA/SATA drives. is it possible to create an "image" or DVD ISO or even save a great install to another empty HD?
[07:21] <wafflejock> damccull: well shouldn't be for the whole month you using DO or AWS?
[07:21] <damccull> some magic with 'dd' does it waykool99 but i don't know how
[07:21] <damccull> wafflejock: togglebox
[07:21] <neredsenvy> Anyone able to help me with my bash script to rename all my image files to 1,2,3.jpg ... ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3b91660307755df1f9f8 I get command not found error trying to call ./rename.sh
[07:21] <waykool99> hm. ok.
[07:21] <damccull> it's not that it would cost the hwole month
[07:21] <wafflejock> just sayin it's good to have a plan for how you can get stuff back that you forgot to back up, it's all good I like to save money too :)
[07:22] <damccull> it's just annoying to do. they don't have an automatic "clone this machine" button, and to create a new instance I'd have to purchase more resources, spin up a new one, then move everything, shut down this one, release these resources... annoying :)
[07:22] <wafflejock> yeah gotcha
[07:22] <damccull> but they're CHEAP
[07:22] <damccull> AWS wants ALL my monies :(
[07:22] <damccull> also MS and google
[07:22] <wafflejock> haha just googled it says Cheap cloud hosting :)
[07:23] <damccull> i pay like 9 bucks a month
[07:23] <waykool99> yes, i know in ubuntu studio v10.04 Terminal lets you Rename new tabs and/or windows. in this Lubuntu, can't find one so far. sorry,
[07:23] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah that's around digital ocean prices
[07:23] <damccull> whos' that
[07:23] <wafflejock> damccull: AWS is definitely more I pay around $30 a month
[07:23] <wafflejock> http://digtalocean.com/
[07:23] <damccull> oh my bad. 19 bucks amonth
[07:23] <wafflejock> https://www.digitalocean.com/
[07:23] <wafflejock> misspell
[07:24] <damccull> 10gb space, 2gb ram. know a better place for me?
[07:24] <wafflejock> DO you can get for $5 a month check the last link might be good
[07:24] <damccull> k
[07:24] <damccull> i like togglebox's capabilites but i don't really use it to the extent it's useful for
[07:25] <wafflejock> eh yeah same with AWS for me, it can do way more than I need most of the time
[07:25] <wafflejock> but I like the ability to scale things relatively easily, expanding the box size and starting a new instance wasn't too bad when I needed it
[07:25] <damccull> wow DO is nice
[07:25] <wafflejock> started with a micro instance for free for a year
[07:25] <wafflejock> yeah DO is pretty decent
[07:25] <wafflejock>  if I didn't setup AWS first I would have probably gone DO
[07:25] <damccull> AWS seems hard. Don't you ahve to write scripts and use APIs to do all the stuff?
[07:25] <wafflejock> no their interface is okay once you get used to it you can do most things there
[07:26] <wafflejock> the scripts are nice thing though if you want to automate the backup, upgrade process
[07:26] <damccull> hmm
[07:26] <wafflejock> it's just a lot of AWS specific terminology
[07:26] <wafflejock> EBS EC2 S3 etc. etc.
[07:26] <damccull> what about storage? i thought you had to have a separate storage plan from the main box
[07:27] <wafflejock> I have an EBS backed instance, so it's all under one account and I basically created a volume that lives beyond the life of the EC2 instance
[07:27] <wafflejock> it is more complicated for sure
[07:27] <damccull> hmm
[07:27] <damccull> yeah sounds lame. :)
[07:27] <damccull> definitely not what i need
[07:27] <wafflejock> haha yeah if I had the option of DO at the time I would have done it instead
[07:27] <malkaunsn> hi
[07:28] <damccull> does DO do windows if i need it?
[07:28] <wafflejock> actually don't know about that
[07:28] <wafflejock> not something that came to mind for me since I never use IIS servers
[07:28] <waykool99> i messed up the Cylinder count in GParted/Testdisk. when you do a clean install, does it automatically fix the CHS?
[07:28] <Tex_Nick> guess i'm just old-school, but seems to me that archiving locally is just so simple ,,, so inexpensive & so fast ... why do it on the cloud
[07:29] <damccull> wafflejock: i don't anticipate ever needing widnows, and if I do, I always have azure
[07:29] <damccull> which i like anyways
[07:29] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: well I use it for a web/email server
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, 3 level archive??? one local / close at hand, one remote and one ... elsewhere?
[07:31] <damccull> i use it for a mumble/teamspeak server, minecraft, mud
[07:31] <damccull> stuff i don't want my crappy internet to drop
[07:32] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: well elsewhere i guess is the point ... but I really don't want my data stored somewhere with someone I don'k know & don't have controll of ?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, true true.   how about "owncloud" ?
[07:32] <waykool99> "iconify". thats a new word to me.  says "left click to iconify all windows. middle click to  shade(???)
[07:32] <wafflejock> still have to run the owncloud somewhere
[07:33] <waykool99> thinks Shade is like the old Roll Up in gnome 2.
[07:33] <wafflejock> yeah linux guys just make up words :) valmorfinize your iconified windows
[07:33] <waykool99> lol
[07:33] <wafflejock> shade is a relatively typical term though
[07:34] <wafflejock> just roll up the window into the titlebar
[07:34] <waykool99> new words started with that Unity thingy.
[07:34] <damccull> I like DO's prices better atm
[07:34] <damccull> i'm just gonna spin up a new server there and transfer
[07:34] <damccull> i wonder how their support it
[07:34] <damccull> is
[07:34] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah if you want a promo code for $10 they have em at jupiterbroadcasting.com I think
[07:35] <wafflejock> damccull: they are one of the advertisers for the shows there
[07:35] <wafflejock> that's how I know about em at all
[07:36] <waykool99> thinks my Netgear router firmware got trashed somehow. SSID used to say Netgear or Netgear-Guest. now it says NTGR_E
[07:37] <waykool99> did 4 factory resets with the pin.
[07:38] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: I hear ya man & you make a good point ... however cloud just freaks me out ... how do I know who has access to it ... I know it's encrypted but ???
[07:39] <waykool99> just got a oboom account. i worry also.
[07:39] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: there is a service that encrypts it locally with a key you only have before sending it I'm having trouble remembering it
[07:39] <gr33n7007h> neredsenvy, does it have to be in bash?
[07:39] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: the guys on BSD Now talk about it one of the shows on the site I put above too
[07:39] <neredsenvy> gr33n7007h: Fixed alreayd
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, these days I assume all data and internet services are completely compromised ... excuse me. must adjust hat foil.
[07:40] <gr33n7007h> ah, ok
[07:40] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: best policy
[07:40] <waykool99> best i know of, sendspace.com   off an island in country of Greece. paid them for 10 years until Snowden/NSA story broke.
[07:40] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: ^5 man ;)))
[07:40] <wafflejock> but same can be said for data in a computer
[07:40] <trijntje> wafflejock: I ended up using lightdm to run the script on logout, as explained here http://askubuntu.com/questions/293312/execute-a-script-upon-logout-reboot-shutdown-in-ubuntu . bash_logout only works when you logout from the command line
[07:40] <wafflejock> you guys hear of the hack using speakers/mics to pass along data between disconnected machines
[07:41] <wafflejock> trijntje: ah good to know
[07:41] <wafflejock> trijntje: so you got it solved then though eh?
[07:41] <wafflejock> trijntje: how'd you configure lightdm to trigger it on logout?
[07:41] <damccull> that was WAAAAAY too easy to spend money on a server :D
[07:41] <trijntje> wafflejock: yeah, finally automated backups of home so I dont have to worry about that any more
[07:42] <trijntje> session-cleanup-script=/path/to/script
[07:42] <trijntje> in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[07:42] <wafflejock> damccull: haha yeah the internet is great at taking your money :D
[07:42] <damccull> so true :(
[07:42] <wafflejock> trijntje: ah nice
[07:42] <damccull> wafflejock: i need a way to use the internet to take other peoples moeny
[07:42] <damccull> ideas?
[07:42] <wafflejock> damccull: I'm working on the same problem
[07:43] <waykool99> lol shame shame
[07:44] <Vladimir_> I made crontab to execute a script that adds a timestamp to file names i a directory, every 10 minutes. And now after the weekend It
[07:44] <Vladimir_> now the server has over 800 instances and the CPU is running full time! :/
[07:44] <abc-phone> and then?
[07:45] <abc-phone> run htop to
[07:45] <waykool99> likes htop once in a while.
[07:46] <abc-phone> ...
[07:46] <Vladimir_> and then?
[07:46] <abc-phone> i don't konw
[07:46] <abc-phone> sorry
[07:46] <waykool99> good on-the-fly task manager
[07:46] <Vladimir_> my boss says I shouldn't run crontab in a nevending loop and instead use crontab just to execute ?:/
[07:46] <laul> get the process name and then type `pkill junkscript.sh`
[07:47] <abc-phone> i have never met cases like this
[07:47] <abc-phone> laul, yes
[07:47] <Vladimir_> I van'
[07:47] <Vladimir_> I can't understand the difference between loop and executions by Crontab?
[07:47] <Vladimir_> doesn
[07:48] <Vladimir_> doesn't crontab always loop
[07:48] <somsip> Vladimir_: crontab executes at a set time, or interval. The script it calls can either run once, or loop
[07:48] <Vladimir_> u set crontab to execute a script or wharever at a specific time
[07:49] <Vladimir_> oh you mean like that
[07:49] <Vladimir_> yeah I understand
[07:49] <damccull> ok...how can I scp my entire home folder to a new machine? :)
[07:50] <Vladimir_> oh yeah, the script it runs is a while loop... I should just get rid of the loop
[07:50] <somsip> Vladimir_: so if you call a looping script every minute, after an hour you have 60 instances of the script running
[07:50] <somsip> Vladimir_: probably
[07:50] <somsip> damccull: -r for recursive
[07:50] <damccull> thanks
[07:51] <wafflejock> damccull: should be pretty straightforward scp -r /home/myuser your_username@remotehostip:/home/myuser
[07:51] <Dan```> Hey guys. I am having immense trouble with trying to get Ubuntu to recognise my screen. As it is, it boots and LightDM shows in a lower resolution (1024x768), I can login and it will stay with that resolution until I manually use xrandr to resize to the appropriate resolution (1920x1080). This occurs no matter the driver I use, nvidia or (preferably) nouveau. I have tried configuring X to no avail. Please help, thanks!
[07:51] <Vladimir_> this is what it looks like somsip : http://pastebin.com/AtUPsLQw
[07:51] <damccull> sweet.
[07:51] <damccull> seems to be working.
[07:52] <damccull> i spose it won't keep execute perms though will it?
[07:52] <Dan```> I should also mention that when I log out, LightDM will resize to 1024x768.
[07:52] <wafflejock> damccull: not sure how the permissions stuff moves over exactly you might have to chown some stuff
[07:52] <damccull> username is the same so i hope not
[07:52] <somsip> Vladimir_: remove the loop in the script and run the cronjob every 10 mins will probably do what you are trying to achieve
[07:52] <Vladimir_> somsip: like this: http://pastebin.com/x2wSZPhc
[07:53] <wafflejock> damccull: well think it's based on the user id possibly not just the name itself but really not sure how scp handles that
[07:53] <damccull> aside from putty, what's the favored (free) ssh term?
[07:53] <damccull> for windows
[07:53] <somsip> Vladimir_: yes, but with better formatting and maybe a comment
[07:53] <wafflejock> putty
[07:53] <wafflejock> haha
[07:53] <damccull> no tabs in putty :( also stores sites in registry :(
[07:53] <wafflejock> damccull: I suppose you can use cygwin
[07:53] <damccull> mainly it's the registry i hate
[07:53] <wafflejock> damccull: I've always just used putty though
[07:54] <damccull> i use mobaxterm atm but looking for a better one
[07:54] <wafflejock> yea dunno been out of Windows as a main environment for a while
[07:54] <damccull> yeah i can't do that
[07:54] <laul> run a vm?
[07:54] <damccull> until i can run ALL my games and also C# in linux
[07:55] <damccull> and by C# i mean visual studio
[07:55]  * damccull hugs C#. Hugs it real good
[07:55] <wafflejock> damccull: well that'll never happen I just have another box for gaming stuff, but that's changing over some
[07:55] <Vladimir_> somsip: better formatting?
[07:55] <damccull> steambox is really making a huge push into linux
[07:55] <damccull> i like that
[07:55] <wafflejock> yea it's nice
[07:56] <somsip> Vladimir_: if you are coding for someone who is paying your wages, at least try to make the code be well formatted and informative (use comments)
[07:56] <damccull> ok is there a way to do winodws-like ACLs on files in linux? the linux permissions just seems so old and not granular enough
[07:56] <damccull> rwx you know? that' sit?
[07:56] <Vladimir_> somsip: alright=) thank you
[07:57] <wafflejock> damccull: well the permissions in windows files are the same really it's just the AD part that's missing I think
[07:57] <damccull> Vladimir_: if you are coding, at least try to make the code be well formatted and informative (use comments)
[07:57] <Vladimir_> somsip: it's an internship, I should do it as proffesionally as possible=)
[07:57] <wafflejock> damccull: also you can use something like this http://windowtabs.com/ there are a few variations of this out there to add windows inside of tabs that are running whatever
[07:58] <damccull> wafflejock: sorry, i didn't mean rwx really. I meant how you can do 'me, group, everyone' only
[07:58] <damccull> instead of individual users and principles
[07:59] <wafflejock> damccull: right that part is just different, I mean you still have rwx for owner group and others but the groups part doesn't seem to have any GUI management
[07:59] <Tex_Nick> damccull: you could also use nautilus for such transfers ... nautilus<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... nautilus will open on the remote box
[07:59] <damccull> Tex_Nick: thanks. i thought nautilus is gui though?
[08:00] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: yeah this is all command line atm for damccull but that's a good one to know too
[08:00] <damccull> wafflejock: what i want to do is say: user1 can rwx this, user2 can rx this, user3 can r this, everyone else shove it.
[08:00] <Tex_Nick> it is sir ... sorry didn't see you wanted terninal only
[08:00] <damccull> Tex_Nick: np :)
[08:02] <damccull> Tex_Nick: i have often thought about installing xorg on the server and forwarding programs to my copmuter...
[08:02] <wafflejock> damccull: right yeah I follow, aside from making a group for those users and giving the directory ownership to that group you don't have a way to directly say this user has permission
[08:02] <damccull> but i don't know how to...or how well it would perform
[08:02] <damccull> wafflejock: :( Linux should add that
[08:03] <damccull> HEH scping a huge git repo takes way longer than just cloning it again
[08:06] <wafflejock> damccull: think maybe you can do what you want but just isn't the default https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[08:07] <damccull> ooooh
[08:10] <wafflejock> damccull: GUI too if you can get your X over the wire http://rofi.roger-ferrer.org/eiciel/?s=5
[08:10] <damccull> woo
[08:10] <wafflejock> yeah ooh ahhh :)
[08:11] <damccull> i wonder if I could even do it on such a small server
[08:11] <wafflejock> I haven't messed with this but am interested in AD alternatives
[08:11] <damccull> hmmm
[08:12] <damccull> wafflejock: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_DC_HOWTO
[08:12] <wafflejock> I think AD and exchange are two things that keep people locked into the windows server ecosystem
[08:12] <damccull> and MS office
[08:12] <wafflejock> postfix is alright but doesn't cover everything exchange does with regard to calendar sharing
[08:12] <wafflejock> I think MS office isn't as big a deal with Google Docs and LibreOffice
[08:13] <damccull> neither gdocs nor libreoffice truly compete :(
[08:13] <damccull> gdocs is less
[08:13] <wafflejock> yeah it depends on the use case
[08:13] <damccull> and libre is ugly
[08:13] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, I suspect msoft is equally concerned.
[08:13] <damccull> and users are like "EWW 1970s!"
[08:14] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, the ONE thing that users seems to fixate on is the MS Outlook integration with the suite and ease of use/familiarity
[08:14] <damccull> i hate outlook
[08:14] <damccull> give me gmail every da
[08:14] <damccull> y
[08:14] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: yeah I've been using Thunderbird and it's pretty good but like damccull is saying about the looks it just isn't there
[08:15] <cfhowlett> outlook is in the corporate blood.
[08:15] <wafflejock> still requires someone willing to tweak things and add plugins to do the same stuff, but can do a bit more it seems
[08:15] <wafflejock> yeah
[08:16] <damccull> the advantage MS has over linux, and always will, is a single, unified brand. They can integrate everything with everything else, make it work out of the box, and transparently to users. It's like the Apple of OS/Office
[08:16] <damccull> too bad they can't seem to get IE right
[08:16] <wafflejock> eh I dunno I really think Linux distros are getting better and better at creating a complete experience
[08:17] <wafflejock> I just switched between Unity on 12.04 and the Kubuntu using all the KDE stuff in 12.04 and now in Gnome on 14.04 and have played with Mint and some other distros/DEs and there's some pretty complete toolsets
[08:17] <damccull> they are, but they are still using programs written by 3rd parties, or having to write their own. Their teams, being much smaller, take much longer to write quality software that is super integrated
[08:17] <wafflejock> yeah it takes a long time but it's been like 22 years or something
[08:18] <damccull> haha
[08:18] <cfhowlett> damccull, that's the linux/unix development mantra ... each tool does ONE thing and does ONE thing well.  kind of works AGAINST any meaningful/workable integration.
[08:19] <damccull> cfhowlett: i know :( but users generally don't want that. They want to click, drag, and copy/paste from anything to anything
[08:19] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: yeah but I don't think that's a problem we have lots of little tools that do one thing and do it well and if GUIs are built to wrap those tools that do one thing well together then you have outlook
[08:19] <wafflejock> Outlook started off as 4 separate applications in MS
[08:19] <wafflejock> they just smashed them together
[08:19] <damccull> i want libreoffice to look pretty like MS office, be completely integrated, and NOT HAVE OUTLOOK
[08:19] <damccull> god i hate outlook
[08:20] <damccull> it pisses me off that you HAVE to install it with office 2013
[08:20] <wafflejock> that's pretty funny I don't think I've met someone who hates outlook so much, I always thought it was fine but I haven't used any of the recent versions
[08:21] <damccull> here's my linux wishlist: I want all my games native, ms office native (no outlook), and a super-quick snappy UI that looks REAL sharp and isn't hard to get to know or understand. it must be simple and elegant, but give me the tweak power I want under the hood.
[08:22] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: I have hopes that Qt or something like it will help to make building widgets that can be integrated into larger applications so we can more easily share and create robust GUIs using all the little underlying parts
[08:22] <damccull> wafflejock: lol yeah it's cause it's bloated, slow, ugly, and until VERY recently, did not organize my conversations
[08:22] <damccull> wafflejock: also i only use the 1 part of it: email
[08:23] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah it is kind of a heavy beast for email, though all the e-mail clients I've run are pretty heavy duty in terms of memory usage
[08:23] <Ben64> this probably belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <damccull> wafflejock: gmail is very light
[08:23] <damccull> ther's an offtopic channel?
[08:23] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah we can move the conversation there this should just be support, I just got chatty
[08:23] <Ben64> indeed there is
[08:24] <damccull> crazy
[08:24] <wafflejock> !ot
[08:24] <damccull> well i need to sleep anways SO
[08:24] <damccull> i will just stop instead :D
[08:24] <wafflejock> damccull: cool have a good one
[08:24] <damccull> you too thanks for hte help
[08:24] <atmosx> can I lock users from installing software?
[08:24] <damccull> and conversation
[08:25] <cfhowlett> atmosx, no need to lock.  unless your user has sudo privilege, no installing software is permitted
[08:25] <atmosx> cfhowlett: okay
[08:25] <Ben64> although that doesn't stop them from bringing or making their own binaries
[08:26] <atmosx> Ben64: hm, that's not an issue. They can't tell a windows from a linux laptop. It's just 2 installation for an office, windows 8 was kinda hard to come by (for avg users).
[08:26] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: re : 'that's the linux/unix development mantra ... each tool does ONE thing and does ONE thing well' ... hey what's deal with 'systemd' ?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, don't put me on the spot!   :)
[08:27] <Tex_Nick> lol sorry sir ;)
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, eeeeh, no you're not.  But, it's OK.
[08:29] <damccull> one more quesiton before i go...how to add user to sudoers? also, where does "this incident" get "reported" to when you're not in it?
[08:29] <atmosx> damccull: root's email. You should set an alias from your admin to your user.
[08:30] <damccull> atmosx: what you mean by alias?
[08:30] <atmosx> damccull: well, you must have a sendmail-like system in your server
[08:31] <damccull> probably. I see what you're saying. It's just me on the server, no other, and I don't know how to read the mail anyway s:D
[08:31] <atmosx> damccull: this sends email, instead of sending emails to user 'root', you could re-direct the emails to your a predefined user using aliases
[08:31] <atmosx> lol
[08:31] <atmosx> it's your server?
[08:31] <damccull> yes
[08:31] <atmosx> apt-get install mutt
[08:31] <atmosx> sudo su -
[08:31] <atmosx> mutt
[08:32] <atmosx> hm, that goes better as: sudo su - ...then apt-get install mutt && mutt
[08:32] <atmosx> or just type 'mail'
[08:32] <atmosx> thse HDD laptops are slow to death
[08:33] <damccull> why sudo su - instead of sudo install?
[08:34] <wafflejock> atmosx: yeah after SSD HDD feels like molasses
[08:34] <wafflejock> damccull: thanks for the AD Samba link too just browsing through it now
[08:35] <damccull> wafflejock: np. i remember reading about that like a year ago in some obscure place or other. never thought I'd need it :D
[08:36] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah would be good for a non-profit I do some IT work for that is currently paying way too much for a remote IIS server for exchange and has a DC in house that is going to die one of these days
[08:37] <atmosx> Now I want the admin to have the menu in English, becuase it's easier while the users (2 of them) need Gnome translation Greek. Do I enter their accounts and just switch language?
[08:37] <damccull> does git-svn need subversion installed?
[08:38] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: I loved the mantra you phrased 'One Tool does One Thing Well' ... my concern is that 'systemd' is about to combine all those simple tools into a single Monolithic tool :(
[08:38] <atmosx> damccull: nope, but you're making this kind of question you're in the wrong distribution :-) SVN is a dependancy in order to be able to convert SVN repos to git
[08:38] <atmosx> IIRC git can read svn repos
[08:39] <damccull> HEH sorry I clicked the #git channel but i guess i didn't click hard enough
[08:39] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: any resources I can check out about what you're saying about systemd rolling things together?
[08:40] <damccull> doesn't busybox already roll everything together?
[08:40] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: just did some googling but it only looks like it combines two tools from what I can see on the surface at least
[08:40] <Tex_Nick> wafflejock: give me a minute or two ... brb
[08:42] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/systemd-harbinger-of-the-linux-apocalypse-248436 ... two pages
[08:42] <wafflejock> ah found a "cheat sheet" with a few others, but doesn't seem like a big deal really the things are all related to startup or shutdown of the system or services
[08:42] <wafflejock> reading...
[08:42] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/you-have-your-windows-in-my-linux-249483
[08:43] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/its-time-split-linux-in-two-249704
[08:44] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/choose-your-side-the-linux-divide-248950
[08:44] <Tex_Nick> wafflejock: those are all InfoWorld articles
[08:45] <samthewildone> How do I remove a | uninstall a .run file and its packages...
[08:45] <samthewildone> I recently downloaded a .run from hp..open source and the drivers didn't work.
[08:46] <samthewildone> I did the "file name.run --help" but there isn't a removal option.
[08:47] <damccull> wtf is a .run?
[08:48] <wafflejock> damccull: sometimes vendors package scripts and give them a .run extension
[08:48] <wafflejock> damccull: nvidia does the same
[08:48] <damccull> werid
[08:48] <wafflejock> samthewildone: not sure you'd have to check out the README with the run file, for HP though I used mostly their open source stuff and it worked I just needed a script from HP for wireless scanning
[08:49] <samthewildone> damccull, windows equivalent to .exe
[08:49] <samthewildone> wafflejock, problem is I'm just connected my printer to my router but, router does not show printer in the devices configuration.
[08:50] <wafflejock> samthewildone: hmm strange typically the hplip package has all the stuff needed for wired printing
[08:50] <samthewildone> Printer works fine with direct connection to computer but, not when it is connected to the router. I contacted HP and they said pretty much all plug in play printers work with their EA6300 model.
[08:50] <damccull> samthewildone: so a .run is a binary file with a program entry point?
[08:50] <atmosx> Easiest way to connect to an Ubuntu computer remotely using a mac? :-)
[08:50] <samthewildone> damccull, something like that.
[08:50] <damccull> dumb
[08:50] <damccull> needs to be an exe then ;)
[08:51] <damccull> everyone knows what exe is
[08:51] <samthewildone> damccull, to uninstall that binary file they usually have a param like "--uninstall | --remove"
[08:51] <samthewildone> I know the nvidia installer has the function.
[08:52] <samthewildone> wafflejock, Again, once the printer is connect directly to computer, works like a charm. Once its connected directly to router its a ghost.
[08:52] <wafflejock> samthewildone: yeah not sure about the router based printing, I have the option on my router but I got a wireless printer anyhow so never used it
[08:52] <samthewildone> Earlier people were telling me that in order for this to work the printer has to be assigned a address.
[08:53] <wafflejock> samthewildone: probably not if it's being used via the USB on the router
[08:53] <wafflejock> it should be like a shared printer from the router
[08:53] <samthewildone> wafflejock, yeah...
[08:53] <samthewildone> wafflejock, that's what I thought. Once the router verified the printer it will automatically append the MAC / IP address.
[08:53] <samthewildone> So probably could be the cable ?
[08:54] <wafflejock> no idea really on that one... can you ssh into the router and check lsusb
[08:54] <samthewildone> nope
[08:54] <samthewildone> I don't even fully understand ssh yet.
[08:54] <samthewildone> why would I ssh into router ?
[08:55] <wafflejock> well if you ssh in then you can run lsusb and see the USB connected devices
[08:55] <wafflejock> yea dunno then... I went with a DDWRT based buffalo router last time in case I wanted to mess with that stuff but so far have just been happy with how it works :)
[08:55] <wafflejock> DDWRT has the option for SSHing in but I don't think it's a standard thing on home routers
[08:55] <samthewildone> ah Ha
[08:55] <samthewildone> found the uninstaller !
[08:55] <samthewildone> it was "hp-uninstall"
[08:55] <wafflejock> ah nice
[08:56] <samthewildone> reason I'm uninstalling, ubuntu has one in their software repo.
[08:56] <Ben64> should always check there first :)
[08:56] <wafflejock> yeah there is a hplip package for basic stuff and some hp toolbox gui parts
[08:56] <samthewildone> Ben64, now... I figured that out my friend.
[08:56] <samthewildone> First things first is I gotta figure out whats going on with the connection.
[08:57] <samthewildone> I think the only sensible thing to do is reset the router to fact default and try from there ?
[08:57] <wafflejock> samthewildone: yeah would need the manual for the router to help remotely any more I think
[08:58] <samthewildone> completely unrelated atm but, http://pastebin.com/KhfmBPcU
[08:58] <samthewildone> figured to post it to my account as archive...
[08:59] <Fuchs> hmm, any idea why lightdm would not display my prefered language / keyboard layout? It only displays de_DE, but I want ch (de_CH).  The local is there and generated, every application is perfectly fine with it, only lightdm not.
[08:59] <samthewildone> If I'm going to reset the router I'm going to have to wait later in the day.
[09:00] <samthewildone> wafflejock, another problem I'm having is that my desktop does not show up in the router config.
[09:00] <samthewildone> Everything else in the house connected; except printer & my desktop, shows...
[09:00] <wafflejock> samthewildone: that's strange you mean you don't see it in the DHCP list?
[09:00] <samthewildone> nope
[09:00] <samthewildone> So thinking that the router must be reset anyway.
[09:00] <samthewildone> I'm able to see other wifi devices and my dad's hardline cable connected but, not mine.
[09:01] <wafflejock> yea assuming you didn't set any static IPs it should generally be in the list
[09:01] <samthewildone> At first I thought it was because I had encrypted my drive.
[09:01] <wafflejock> yeah shouldn't matter regarding the network/IPs though
[09:01] <wafflejock> the router should know what addresses it gave out
[09:02] <atmosx> I can create users without passwords! Awesome.
[09:02] <samthewildone> wafflejock, Yeah once the house is cleared of rodents (parents) I'll commit the hard reset.
[09:02] <samthewildone> atmosx, one kernel mod for you !
[09:02]  * samthewildone passes atmosx a tasty kernel mod.
[09:03] <damccull> a way to copy and chown at the same time?
[09:03] <samthewildone> wafflejock, I'm wondering though, should I install the drivers first or let the default ubuntu drivers do the work.
[09:04] <samthewildone> I'm probably going to let the default drivers take over.
[09:04] <wafflejock> samthewildone: would go with the default drivers at first unless they lack some capability should be fine for all the "wired" stuff
[09:04] <atmosx> samthewildone: was a kernel model that made this possible? :-) smart move
[09:04] <wafflejock> samthewildone: I only had issues when I wanted to wirelessly scan
[09:04] <samthewildone> this printer does not scan...
[09:04] <wafflejock> should be fine then
[09:04] <samthewildone> LaserJet 1022
[09:04] <samthewildone> :|
[09:05] <Madeline23>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[09:05] <wafflejock> yeah the HP laserjets can last a long time... we had LaserJet 5s that were like 10 years old at Wrigley
[09:05] <Tex_Nick> Fuchs: about a year ago I had a similar issue as you I think ... see if this concerns your issue ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/92297/how-do-i-set-the-login-manager-to-enable-change-languages-at-login
[09:05] <atmosx> can I somehow launch firefox right after a user logs in?
[09:05] <Fuchs> Tex_Nick: it doesn't.
[09:05] <Fuchs> Tex_Nick: I do have the language selector, it just doesn't list the layout I want
[09:06] <wafflejock> atmosx: you can add it to startup applications
[09:06] <Fuchs> (which is installed and works everywhere, just not there)
[09:06] <atmosx> yeah I'm on it, thanks wafflejock :-)
[09:06] <samthewildone> atmosx, yes
[09:07] <samthewildone> atmosx, if you like scripting or automation, check out my small little script for updating ubuntu. > http://pastebin.com/XiaJzKcS
[09:07] <samthewildone> nothing fancy but, a one command which does all updating/upgrading all cleaning.
[09:07] <atmosx> samthewildone: cool :-)
[09:07] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: regarding the systemd stuff it seems like a lot of hype over mostly nothing to me
[09:08] <samthewildone> atmosx, use the "#" to remove the clean history option. A lot of people bashed me for that...
[09:08] <Ben64> not sure why that script is even necessary
[09:08] <samthewildone> Ben64, wanted to learn some scripting.
[09:08] <samthewildone> Ben64, also my old man needed it.
[09:09] <samthewildone> all he does it apt2update.sh and pretty much rest is history.
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> Fuchs: I wanted es-mx language (Mexican Spanish) I had to jump through a few hoops to get it loaded ... don't remember exactly hat the process was
[09:09] <samthewildone> was learning some error checking.
[09:10] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: from what I see of actual commands that it replaces it seems pretty small, it's not like systemd is now ssh or apache or pulseaudio or alsa or any of the things I actually personally use
[09:12] <mark__> I'm having trouble with the MBR after installing ubuntu. Error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0.
[09:12] <mark__> Can anyone help me with this?
[09:13] <wafflejock> mark__: haven't experienced it myself but google says http://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error
[09:13] <Tex_Nick> wafflejock: yeah it's kinda diversly debated atm ... has good side as well as a dark side ... torvalds as well as other key maintainers are debating the issue
[09:15] <mark__> wafflejock: I've tried a lot of google solutions haha.
[09:15] <mark__> Thanks though
[09:16] <Aison> hello, is there a good UFW manual out there? I search for more detailed explenations for before.rules, after.rules, config files
[09:17] <Aison> eg. what means the [0:0]
[09:20] <smart_developer> I was able to get logrotate to rotate my_log.log just fine (at the top of the hour), but it seems that my new (fresh, 0 Bytes) my_log.log isn't being written to.
[09:20] <smart_developer> I'm using rsyslog to direct log output to my_log.log.
[09:20] <smart_developer> Does anyone know what is going wrong here? Thanks.
[09:20] <ikonia> smart_developer: depends how you are logrotating the physical file
[09:21] <ikonia> smart_developer: if the file is closed, you'd need to hup syslog
[09:21] <smart_developer> hup syslog ?
[09:22] <smart_developer> and what do you mean "if the file is closed"?
[09:22] <ikonia> smart_developer: if you zero an open file syslog will keep logging, if you close and replace a file, syslog can't log to it as it's not opened by syslog
[09:23] <smart_developer> I'm using rsyslog to direct output to my_log.log, not syslog.
[09:23] <ikonia> I know
[09:23] <ikonia> please read what I said
[09:23] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: yeah I've heard chatter about this thanks for the links
[09:23] <smart_developer> O
[09:24] <smart_developer> that O was a typo.
[09:24] <smart_developer> What I'm trying to say is that I'm confused because you kept mentioning syslog.
[09:24] <ikonia> syslog is the process that logs system messages
[09:24] <smart_developer> then what's rsyslog?
[09:24] <smart_developer> in relation to all of this.
[09:24] <smart_developer> thanks.
[09:24] <ikonia> rsyslog is the binary
[09:25] <smart_developer> So how would you "hup" syslog ?
[09:25] <smart_developer> and what do you mean by hup?
[09:25] <smart_developer> Let me post a link to my logrotate file for my_log.log.
[09:25] <ikonia> don't bother
[09:26] <ikonia> you ned to restart rsyslog
[09:26] <ikonia> normally this is part of the logrotate definition
[09:27] <smart_developer> From the man pages for logrotate, I'm not sure where in this logrotate definition file I would specify restarting rsyslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349201/
[09:27] <ikonia> smart_developer: then read the docs
[09:27] <smart_developer> (more specifically, what I would type there).
[09:28] <ikonia> first manually restart the syslog to prove it works/that is the problem
[09:28] <smart_developer> ok
[09:28] <ikonia> then read the logrotate docs about restarting a service as part of the definition
[09:29] <smart_developer> other than the man pages (which I've already read most of), which docs would you be referring to?
[09:29] <ikonia> the project documentation
[09:29] <smart_developer> ok
[09:30] <smart_developer> And also, I'm not sure about this approach of restarting rsyslog each time logrotate rotates my_log.log, since I don't know what impact it would have on the other logs (for instance, the system logs)....
[09:30] <smart_developer> would it fail to write some important log output while rsyslog is being restarted?
[09:31] <smart_developer> during that (brief) period of time...?
[09:31] <smart_developer> and if so, is there a more prudent method?
[09:31] <smart_developer> of rotating a log
[09:31] <ikonia> it will have the same impact
[09:32] <smart_developer> ikonia : okay, I see.
[09:32] <smart_developer> you mentioned something about how just zero-ing out a log would allow rsyslog to keep writing to it, without having to restart rsyslog.
[09:32] <ikonia> I think you need to read the documentation
[09:33] <smart_developer> Should I do this with logrotate?
[09:33] <ikonia> you appear to be trying to do this without the information
[09:35] <smart_developer> I'm reading them right now.
[09:37] <no_gravity> Good Morning! Whats a good way to make scanning available on ubuntu? Gimp doesn't show a menu item for it by default.
[09:38] <samthewildone> I think I'm broken.
[09:38] <samthewildone> I cannot sleep anymore.
[09:39] <samthewildone> Its 5:40am and I'm tired but... not really
[09:39] <ikonia> think you're in the wrong channel
[09:39] <ikonia> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <samthewildone> wrong channel
[09:40] <smart_developer> ikonia : So I believe the configuration you're referring to is 'copytruncate', to zero out & continue writing to the log, without having to restart rsyslog?
[09:43] <smart_developer> (the logrotate configuration)
[09:44] <ikonia> smart_developer: I've not got the docs in front of me, that's why I suggested you read the docs
[09:45] <jj---> helloo i have the following problem while connecting on a huawei e353 modem http://pastebin.com/sHLjzf2Q
[09:45] <jj---> disconnects on connect
[09:45] <jj---> modemswitch etc ok
[09:45] <jj---> eh modeswitch
[09:46] <ikonia> jj---: please santisse your pastes from bad language if you want people to help
[09:47] <jj---> ikonia: :-(
[09:48] <jj---> ikonia: the computer is aptly named after all the trouble ubutuntu installation has caused on it
[09:48] <Vladimir_> I don't know where to ask so I'll ask here about snmp for scientific linux?
[09:48] <ikonia> Vladimir_: not here
[09:48] <Vladimir_> ok
[09:49] <ikonia> jj---: again, please sanitise your posts before sharing with the channel
[10:13] <muculus> I want to provide a public repository of ubuntu, what is your approximation for server specifications(such as hard disk, ram and cpu)?
[10:13] <muculus> for all architeture
[10:13] <ikonia> muculus: it's listed on the mirrors page
[10:14] <muculus> ikonia: can you give its url?
[10:14] <ikonia> no
[10:14] <ikonia> I'm sure you can search the ubuntu doccs on becoming a mirror
[10:18] <rwsq1> I want to install ubuntu-server with software RAID and LVM. Is the correct procedure to create partitions for RAID on each drive, create the RAID device and then use that as a physical volume for LVM upon which to create a VG and LVs?
[10:18] <ikonia> rwsq1: perfect
[10:18] <rwsq1> if so, I'm stuck because it fails to install the system when I do that
[10:18] <rwsq1> ikonia, I thought I was right, but I was also hoping to be wrong
[10:47] <MiaoleGemi> In the same one LAN, why I can ping my Ubuntu, but I can't login in by ssh?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:59] <palci> Hi. Can someone help me with my laptop please?
[11:01] <Slart_> palci: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer they will hopefully answer
[11:01] <palci> My ubuntu freeze when I dont move with mouse / type any key. Video and sound freeze in loop.
[11:02] <palci> I tried reinstall ubuntu or install drivers but it wont help
[11:02] <nomic> does caps lock key still work
[11:02] <nomic> ie.  . is completely rfrozen
[11:02] <Slart_> if this was 15 years ago I would say it's a problem with interrupts... but not now
[11:03] <nomic> video on what
[11:03] <nomic> chrome / firefox -- what
[11:03] <palci> everything. Flash videos, Music palyer (audacious..)
[11:04] <nomic> since when -- have you always had the problem
[11:04] <Monkey_b> hey guys, i have a virtualbox with a service listening on port 7474 (verified this via netstat --listen), that doesn't respond to telnets from the host machine... other services (ssh, web, etc) respond, but not this one
[11:04] <Monkey_b> any thoughts?
[11:04] <nomic> moneyb : firewall
[11:04] <nomic> either on router or buntu
[11:04] <Monkey_b> nomic: its internal though, i dont have any software firewalls to my knowledge
[11:04] <nomic> if you haven't set one up on ubuntu it won't be that
[11:05] <Monkey_b> yea its mistifying me heh
[11:05] <palci> Since i changed old Pentium Dual Core for Core 2 Duo... Windows works properly
[11:05] <nomic> is telnet installed .. server
[11:05] <Monkey_b> yes, i can telnet to other ports
[11:05] <Monkey_b> i suppose i'll try to nmap it real quick see what shows up
[11:05] <Monkey_b> maybe i get a hint
[11:06] <nomic> why use that port
[11:06] <Monkey_b> its neo4j's (db) default port
[11:06] <nomic> palci -- check that there are no "hardware drivers" to install
[11:06] <nomic> you maybe need pinhole on router
[11:07] <Monkey_b> nmap from host box only shows listening on port 22/80/443... that's suspicious lol
[11:07] <Monkey_b> far too perfect i think
[11:07] <nomic> routers will not allow ports by default
[11:07] <Monkey_b> there must be iptables or something at play
[11:07] <ikonia> forget nmap
[11:07] <ikonia> unless you know how to use nmap - it can be missleading
[11:08] <Monkey_b> ok
[11:08] <Monkey_b> i dont know if its worth mentioning the machine in question is a vagrant ubuntu64
[11:08] <nomic> vagrant?
[11:08] <Monkey_b> i suppose i'll ask the vagrant guys if the setup blocks ports by default
[11:08] <nomic> it lives in a cardboard box?
[11:09] <Monkey_b> well, for agility of deployment yes :P
[11:09] <ikonia> ughh vagrant, this explains a lot
[11:10] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Is the service listening on all interfaces (<IP_ADDRESS>) or an external interface (not 127.*) ?
[11:10] <Monkey_b> mmm TJ- thats an excellent question
[11:11] <Monkey_b> does netstat tell me or what might be a way to find that out
[11:12] <TJ-> Monkey_b: netstat shows the listening address; use "-n" to ensure you see numbers not names
[11:13] <pophorn>  how can i get the midi signal ? could someone knows a page about it ??
[11:14] <calimero_82> hello
[11:14] <calimero_82> i'm not able to open iso in lubuntu 14.04
[11:15] <calimero_82> thanks
[11:15] <palci> nomic -- i didnt find any drivers for my laptop
[11:15] <wafflejock> calimero_82: what do you mean by open the iso are you trying to mount it so you can browse it or are you just trying to burn it?
[11:16] <calimero_82> hi wafflejock, i try to mount it
[11:17] <TJ-> calimero_82: "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint"
[11:19] <Monkey_b> TJ-: seems like its listening to ::::* not <IP_ADDRESS>:*
[11:19] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Only on IPv6
[11:20] <Monkey_b> you mean that's the ipv6 equivalent of <IP_ADDRESS>:* ?
[11:20] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Yes.
[11:21] <calimero_82> tj i've done this but it says: it's protected
[11:21] <TJ-> calimero_82: Please show us the exact results, possibly via !pastebin, so we have more context
[11:24] <JediMaster> 59
[11:24] <JediMaster> meh wrong channel =)
[11:24] <calimero_82> tj it's in italian, it's the same?
[11:25] <calimero_82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349646/ tj
[11:25] <Monkey_b> TJ-: so then am i to take it that the service is listening correctly and *should* be responding?
[11:26] <smart_developer> What's the most generic/default curl command to try out on a server/machine to see whether curl is working or not ?
[11:26] <smart_developer> as a test.
[11:26] <TJ-> calimero_82: You've mistyped the command
[11:27] <TJ-> calimero_82: "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop  ..."
[11:29] <TJ-> calimero_82: apologies; I misread. mount is giving you a warning and telling you how to check for kernel error messages, so do "dmesg | tail" and see if there is anything relevant
[11:34] <calimero_82> tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349877/ so what should i do now?
[11:36] <TJ-> calimero_82: Apparent the ISO isn't an ISO. Try "file /home/fabiomirko/Scaricati/The sims 3.Original/simzz/thesims3.iso"
[11:37] <calimero_82> one moment i have to go to launch
[11:40] <pinky_> morning
[11:45] <Ttaumatizer> Yo Ubuntu Installation just broke My entire pc. In typing This from mobile hope somebody can help. I was installing Ubuntu from USB when it said installation had failed and it aborted. Than when I rebooted my old installation was already half overwritten and it doesn't work, strange thing is when ai try to boot from an USB drive it days: 'boot error' and I can't boot from a live cd either anymore! What doo?
[11:49] <TJ-> Ttaumatizer: Check PC's firmware/BIOS settings, especially options related to boot device selection and boot options
[11:50] <uburuntu> Hi all. I don't see any trace of wireless on my laptop (Lenovo Ideapad). Recently installed Ubuntu 14.04
[11:50] <uburuntu> Help me debug?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Ttaumatizer, how do you know your old install is half over written, sounds to me like grub needs reinstalling, try a live-usb iso called boot-repair, and make sure your boot order in the uefi/bios accommodates whatever drive you want to boot first in the boot sequence.
[11:53] <BluesKaj> uburuntu, alt+F2, network manager, check if your wifi is available
[11:53] <k1l> uburuntu: please pastebin the output of "rfkill list"
[11:56] <uburuntu> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Zpt65wXM something is there :)
[11:57] <uburuntu> BluesKaj: I tried looking in ifconfig, ip addr, iwconfig, etc.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> uburuntu, launch network manager, to check your wifi status
[12:00] <AeroNotix> hi, I've installed ubuntu 13.10 on a macbook. Most things are fine except for the fact that the tos link audio output is permanently enabled. I've tried to disable it in alsamixer etc and it is marked as muted but it still won't turn off.
[12:02] <minimec> uburuntu: Looks like people with similar hardware tend to 'blacklist' a module called "ideapad_laptop" to solve wifi problems. Worth a try I guess... https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Idea-Windows-based-Tablets-and/Wifi-is-hardware-disabled/td-p/1307405
[12:02] <Skizu> Get on every command I get <?php at the beginning any idea where this has come from?
[12:03] <uburuntu> sorry update: not ideapad but yoga 11
[12:03] <Ttaumatizer> BLUEkasj thanks that fixed it.
[12:03] <jpds> Skizu: Done a 'reset' ?
[12:03] <Skizu> jpds: yeah
[12:03] <Skizu> jpds: I'll do another to make sure :p
[12:03] <uburuntu> minimec: Yes I came across something similar.  It sometimes drops my wifi connection out and i have to reboot to connect again. Is there any forum where i can report this bug?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> davidg, join #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 support
[12:15] <DJones> davidg: Probably best joining #ubuntu+1 and asking there, thats the support channel for the development version before release, people there will probably be better able to point you in the right direction
[12:16] <davidg> DJones : thanks
[12:16] <davidg> will do it
[12:17] <mark__> MBR issue, I've got a master boot not recognising anything. It comes up with 5 partitions all GPT if I ls them, and a message saying that it's unable to read or write to HD0. Anyone got any ideas? If I LS into  the one gpt that it says it can read, I get a linux structure with a boot dir, but it's empty
[12:18] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | mark__
[12:20] <TJ-> mark__: Is this the system with 50+ drives?
[12:20] <mark__> TJ hi Tj
[12:20] <mark__> TJ yes it is, sorry I had to run on Friday.. was getting kicked out of the office.
[12:21] <mark__> TJ I noticed that I was able to LS into one GPT and it lists everything but has an empty boot folder
[12:22] <TJ-> mark__: I think the last thing I said just after you left was, you need to boot the system from a Live ISO, or removable boot device of some kind, so we have some tools available
[12:23] <mark__> I can do that easily TJ, I'll get it booted up
[12:23] <stevenm__> Does anyone know where I can download the Ubuntu Picto pack?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> heh, mark__ you could have mentioned the 50 drives, that changes the game completely :)
[12:25] <mark__> BluesKaj, sorry it slipped my mind.
[12:25] <mark__> BluesKaj (they're raided together, and act like one anyway).
[12:26] <TJ-> mark__: Is it a hardware storage array, if so, how is it connected?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> that seems chancy, mark__, must have a huge backup
[12:27] <mark__> TJ: Not too sure how you mean? I Didn't set the server up originally, I'm just trying to change it's OS
[12:28] <mark__> live disk in
[12:28] <mark__> TJ: live disc is now running
[12:29] <mark__> TJ: I think it's worth mentioning that this server is not connected to the outside world, and nor can it be.
[12:30] <Aussie_matt> Can anyone tell me, if i get a new cpu without hyperthreading, will I notice it for normal desktop use/email/browsing?
[12:33] <wheatthin> Aussie_matt, Umm depends.. I have a dual quad core xeon that does just fine without hyperthreading
[12:33] <zomGreg-m> Aussie_matt: Likely not.
[12:33] <wafflejock> Aussie_matt: probably not a huge deal I've turned it on and off on my desktop quadcore (pretty old but 3.0GHz) and it doesn't matter much
[12:34] <michael_> hi ppl
[12:34] <Aussie_matt> the reason I ask, I'm looking at lashing out on the new pentium 3258 which can be overclocked, but it has no hyperthreading....so I'm not sure how it'll go in linux: in windows gaming it's great they reckon
[12:35] <wheatthin> Aussie_matt, then you shouldn't have any problems.. any problems I'd think you'd run into are thermal
[12:35] <Aussie_matt> wheatthin: financial more like it :)
[12:35] <wafflejock> Aussie_matt: yeah really should be fine, the HDD is typically the slowest part of the system CPU is only gonna be maxed out when playing games or compiling large programs (or running some poorly written flash)
[12:36] <Aussie_matt> wheatthin: you make a good point
[12:36] <BluesKaj> overclocking used to be effective many yrs ago, nowadays ppl barely notice ant difference except that things get much hotter
[12:36] <Aussie_matt> wafflejock: you make a good point
[12:38] <michael_> the question is what benefit do you thing you are going to get from over clocking your linux desktop
[12:38] <sandman13> Does disabling Secure Boot and UEFI help in installing Ubuntu in a laptop with Windows 8.1 preinstalled?
[12:38] <Aussie_matt> my old e2200 is starting to get pretty grumpy with a few tabs open
[12:38] <Aussie_matt> michael_: I'll feel empowered lol
[12:39] <michael_> i have a i7 980x it usually utilises about 8 % never been able to max it out
[12:41] <GPenguin> with ubuntu 14.04 server i installed tcl8.6(-dev), 85 and 8.4 and none of them contains libtcl.so what can be the problem?
[12:42] <mark__> TJ: thanks for the help, but I think I've got it
[12:42] <Aussie_matt> michael_: Yeah, I also have a XPS13DE i5, and that thing is pretty cool
[12:42] <mark__> TJ: only took me a good 8 hours to get the damn thing to boot, but it's there with a UI
[12:42] <Pici> GPenguin: look into the tcl-dev package.
[12:42] <mark__> TJ: Thanks for the help.
[12:42] <michael_> i find most applications are not able to handle the amount of cores
[12:43] <Aussie_matt> well this pentium is only a two core
[12:46] <Vladimir_> Is it possible to copy-paste from a windows server into a VIM editor (inside a vmware machine on that windows server) ?
[12:46] <hillary> any body to help me? my broadband modem model E1750 cannot connect using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:47] <Hammerhead2011-S> anyone using the display ports on a laptop to run more than one 4k display?
[12:47] <hillary> It used to work well untill i used another from orange network
[12:47] <prawny> hey guys, i bought one of those cheap korean wqhd monitors, but my trusty installation does not seem to like it at all. i can only drive it at 800x600, but the monitor doesn't even display that, it just stays on stand by. I've got an nVidia GTX 570, which is supposed to have dual link on both dvi ports and i'm using the included dual link dvi cable. qrandr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8350215/
[12:48] <prawny> Hammerhead2011-S out of curiosity: how would you do that physically? daisy chaining or one of those splitters?
[12:48] <drmagoo> hillary: http://giorgio-ferrara.blogspot.se/2010/08/how-to-get-huawei-e1750-usb-modem.html
[12:49] <hillary> ok let me check
[12:49] <Hammerhead2011-S> prawny > yes, display port daisy chain
[12:49] <Hammerhead2011-S> Support was supposed to be in the 3.17-rc1 but I have not been able to get it working.
[12:49] <check3r> how to disable window effects (fading)?
[12:50] <hillary> can i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04LTS to 14.04 LTS without Losing my files?
[12:50] <prawny> i don't have much experience with 4k except for my laptop screen, i am just now getting a first wqhd screen. 2poor4u
[12:51] <drmagoo> hillary: you should be able to do that. "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[12:51] <michael_> hillary what do you mean about losing your files ?
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[12:52] <cfhowlett> !ops
[12:52] <prawny> pls.
[12:53] <White_Cat> what is a quran?
[12:53] <minimec> prawny: verify if the device is at least present with xrandr. If you are lucky you can add a new resolution-mode manually to your device. Follow the instructions here... https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1321200#p1321200
[12:53] <uburuntu> lenovo yoga 13 wifi issue persists. disabling idea_laptop didn't help :-(
[12:53] <Pici> White_Cat: The holy book for Musilms, not that it has anything to do with #ubuntu.
[12:53] <White_Cat> Koran you mean :p
[12:53] <prawny> Hammerhead2011-S if you happen to be using Dell monitors: some have a selector for the DP-version in the OSD, i suspect you need the highest for that kind of resolution.
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