[11:49] <karlheg> I think that the ohci_hcd is probably not as well tested or that the hardware tends to be flakey.
[11:49] <karlheg> Most machines I've used have the uhci_hcd kind and work pretty well.
[11:50] <BlacKnight|> but why does the reader work when i boot up?
[11:50] <BlacKnight|> until i disconnect it...?
[11:50] <spikeb> sounds like a project utopia bug
[11:50] <BlacKnight|> ?
[11:51] <spikeb> project utopia is hotplug + udev+gnome volume manager + hald
[11:51] <karlheg> Not sure.
[11:51] <spikeb> everything that makes hotplugging work
[11:51] <spikeb> or not work, in this case
[11:51] <BlacKnight|> aaaaaaah
[11:51] <BlacKnight|> ok i'll figure it out when i get home
[11:51] <BlacKnight|> bbl
[11:52] <karlheg> Try google and see.  What specific computer hardware model is it?  what mainboard or manufacturer?
[11:52] <karlheg> Google for that + linux usb ohci
[11:58] <bitserf> anyone using the very latest (today) packages in hoary? my top panel has become somewhat empty. (no applets at all, completely blank). only the bottom one works. i whacked ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*, with the same result though :)
[11:59] <paulproteus> "Bleeding from the cutting-edge, eh?"
[11:59] <paulproteus> ;)
[12:00] <paulproteus> I used to use Debian Unstable, but it's Warty now on machines I want to be useful. :)
[12:01] <paulproteus> bitserf: Not crazy at all.  I fully understand. :)
[12:01] <housetier> crazy = apt-get -t experimental dist-upgrade :)
[12:01] <spikeb> heh
[12:01] <spikeb> no kidding
[12:01] <paulproteus> bitserf: While I'm chatting with someone like you, can you tell me if your version of Nautilus can properly handle remote SFTP/SSH directories through GNOME-VFS?
[12:02] <paulproteus> It seems Warty's can't.
[12:03] <spikeb> is hoary running gnome 2.9.x?
[12:03] <bitserf> paul: it seems nautilus is one of my apps which is currently busted, sorry :(
[12:03] <karlheg> The python transition got hairy.  I use 'aptitude' rather than 'synaptic', so it was a cinch to put them all on hold.  I used 'l' to limit the view to '~b', then used '=' on the section headings to mark them for 'hold' en-masse.
[12:03] <ironwolf> bitserf: I've seen the panels go away too.. enough reboots they come back.  I assume Daniels is working on it.
[12:03] <karlheg> Later on when they get them all uploaded, I'll let it upgrade them.
[12:04] <bitserf> karl: hmm, nice tip, thanks
[12:04] <karlheg> aptitude install less ssh
[12:04] <karlheg> ... is what I always type after a Debian install.
[12:05] <karlheg> :-)
[12:05] <spikeb> heh
[12:05] <karlheg> noman
[12:07] <housetier> wow I just learned something useful about aptitude, thanks karlheg
[12:07] <housetier> this l ~b thing sounds like a timesaver to me
[12:08] <paulproteus> I think aptitude is widely misunderstood.
[12:08] <karlheg>  / ~b is also.
[12:08] <paulproteus> Like a gifted but ugly child.
[12:08] <paulproteus> :)
[12:08] <spikeb> heh
[12:08] <karlheg> It's not ugly.
[12:08] <spikeb> are you guys going to help get xorg into sid as well?
[12:09] <housetier> I had been /-ing for ~b before
[12:09] <housetier> but its tedious if you have a lot of b's
[12:09] <karlheg> The TUI is great, since it works over a ssh connection to a headless server.   is a way of saying "yes"... Americana.
[12:12] <khinester> hello
[12:12] <paulproteus> karlheg: Right. :)
[12:12] <karlheg> khinester, Hello.
[12:12] <khinester> how do i add the RewriteEngine within the apache conf file
[12:12] <khinester> karlheg: hello
[12:13] <karlheg> cd /etc/apache2 && ls
[12:13] <karlheg> cd mods-enabled && ls
[12:14] <karlheg> ln -s ../mods-available/<whatever> .
[12:14] <karlheg> http://localhost/manual/
[12:16] <khinester> ok i think i see it, so i need to sym link the mods-available into the mods-enabled dir
[12:16] <karlheg> The module load and config file from the available into the enabled, yes.
[12:17] <karlheg> There's probably a cli tool to do it, as an interface to be used by maintainer scripts, but doing it by hand will probably always work.
[12:17] <khinester> sorry new to unix, what is cli
[12:17] <paulproteus> command line interface
[12:18] <karlheg> command line interface
[12:18] <khinester> duh
[12:18] <paulproteus> As compared to graphical user interface (gui)
[12:18] <khinester> thx
[12:18] <karlheg> jinx
[12:18] <paulproteus> Sure thing. :)
[12:18] <paulproteus> heh, karlheg
[12:18] <karlheg> Huh?
[12:19] <karlheg> If you install 'dict-foldoc', 'dict-vera', 'dict-gcide', etc, then point the dictionary lookup applet at localhost, you can look that up.
[12:19] <karlheg> 'dict-wordnet'.
[12:20] <paulproteus> Or you could just use the Internet dict.
[12:20] <karlheg> Very handy on a laptop in english class.
[12:20] <karlheg> paulproteus, Sure, but not while off-line.
[12:20] <karlheg> I like it on localhost.
[12:21] <khinester> one more question
[12:22] <karlheg> I'm having issues with my new LinkSYS WRT54G which I've just re-flashed with the OpenWRT firmware...  I need to sign off for a while -- my link will be bouncing until I fix it.  Later on, folks.
[12:22] <karlheg> ?
[12:22] <karlheg> khinester, ?
[12:22] <khinester> on the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled do i have to create a file for each virual host
[12:23] <khinester> or can i put the rewrite rules into the default file
[12:23] <paulproteus> That's good practice, khinester, though not required.
[12:23] <paulproteus> Ciao, karlheg.
[12:23] <karlheg> khinester, You can if you like, if that seems appropriate.  Put them in sites-available and symlink to them from sites-enabled so you can turn them on and off at will.
[12:23] <karlheg> Learn about mod_macro.
[12:23] <karlheg> You can make a macro and use it multiple times for various simalarly configured VH.
[12:24] <agenteo> can you suggest me an app to print an image from ubuntu? GIMP doesn't print on my PC...
[12:24] <karlheg> Or for related https/http sites, with mod_rewrite redirects to flick between them as appropriate for different sections.
[12:24] <karlheg> ... it can get complicated.
[12:25] <karlheg> ls -d /usr/share/doc/*apache*
[12:25] <karlheg> Have a nice trip.  Gotta go now.
[12:25] <paulproteus> agenteo: Firefox should be one.
[12:25] <khinester> i am using mod_rewrite to access hosts on a zope server, but for some reason the mod_rewrite is not rewriting to this
[12:26] <agenteo> paulproteus: I've used oo.org thinks it should works until I found out what the hell GIMP wants
[12:26] <agenteo> paulproteus: thanks :-)
[12:27] <khinester> this is  my rule
[12:27] <khinester> <VirtualHost *>
[12:27] <khinester>         ServerName  dev.hostname.com
[12:27] <khinester>         RewriteEngine On
[12:27] <khinester>         RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:9080/traveluni/bahamas_expert/$1?REAL_HOST=%{HTTP_HOST}&REAL_PATH=$1 [QSA,P]

[12:29] <StevenR_Ubuntu> well that was an easy install :) Ubuntu running on an old harddisk now :D
[12:30] <paulproteus> Glad to hear it, StevenR_Ubuntu. :)
[12:32] <StevenR_Ubuntu> hmmm...1st of probably many questions....what's the difference between removal and complete removal of a package in synaptic?
[12:35] <hazmat> is the source for rosetta available?
[12:40] <burnez> good morning!
[12:40] <Aure> afternoon for me ;)
[12:40] <paulproteus> StevenR_Ubuntu: "complete" is probably synonymous with --purge on the command-line
[12:40] <burnez> yeah, for me midday
[12:40] <paulproteus> using --purge removes configuration files as well as program files.
[12:41] <khinester> bye all
[12:41] <burnez> does onyone have a "sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()" problem?
[12:42] <paulproteus> burnez: You should ensure that your hostname (as defined in /etc/hostname) maps to an IP address.
[12:42] <paulproteus> If you're not always connected to the Internet, you can add a mapping in /etc/hosts.
[12:42] <burnez> but i do not have a hostname...
[12:44] <burnez> here is, what my /etc/hosts looks like: "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost DeBiAn-BoX localhost.localdomain"
[12:44] <paulproteus> What does your /etc/hostname say?
[12:44] <paulproteus> Alternately, what is the output of the 'hostname' command?
[12:45] <burnez> there is also that error, that gnome won't work propperly when i lock-in, that says that.
[12:45] <burnez> 1moment
[12:45] <paulproteus> Great, thanks.
[12:45] <burnez> nothing.
[12:46] <burnez> "Great, thanks." I have to thank you!
[12:46] <paulproteus> What does /etc/hostname contain?
[12:46] <burnez> that's it: nothing
[12:46] <paulproteus> Oh.  That's sad.
[12:46] <burnez> should I add somethin?
[12:46] <paulproteus> You should give your computer a hostname.
[12:46] <paulproteus> Make up a name! :)
[12:46] <domo> hi again
[12:47] <burnez> hmm, and which one?
[12:47] <paulproteus> Welcome back, domo.
[12:47] <burnez> localhost??
[12:47] <paulproteus> Something of your choice, burnez.
[12:47] <paulproteus> If you really want to, localhost is fine.
[12:47] <paulproteus> It's a bit boring, but okay.
[12:47] <paulproteus> My laptop is called 'baroque'; my desktop is called 'renaissance'.
[12:47] <burnez> okay, I will have a try..
[12:47] <domo> one more little pb: I have this kernel's version  <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 and I  look for the kernel source but I only find the 2.6.7 version
[12:47] <burnez> ;)
[12:48] <paulproteus> Once you decide on a name, tell me, and I'll tell you how to give your computer that name.
[12:48] <burnez> AcIdHeAd would be fine
[12:48] <domo> someone know where to find the 2.6.8 kernel-source version ?
[12:48] <uuuu> greetings all ubuntu guru masters
[12:49] <paulproteus> by convention, the first letter at least must be lowercase.
[12:49] <domo> hi uuuu
[12:49] <burnez> ahh, okay.
[12:49] <burnez> aCiDhEaD
[12:49] <burnez> an now?
[12:49] <paulproteus> Great.
[12:49] <paulproteus> Now run:
[12:49] <paulproteus> sudo hostname aCiDhEaD
[12:49] <paulproteus> And also add that word next to localhost in /etc/hosts.
[12:51] <burnez> 'k
[12:52] <paulproteus> Now you should no longer have this problem.
[12:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok!!!
[12:52] <burnez> thank you very much!
[12:52] <burnez> it worked!!
[12:52] <burnez> :)
[12:52] <domo> :)
[12:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > like i was saying....
[12:52] <paulproteus> My pleasure, burnez.
[12:52] <paulproteus> Now one more thing:
[12:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > is there anyone here who knows about airsnort?
[12:52] <paulproteus> Could you add a page to the wiki telling what you did?
[12:52] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : Just a little.
[12:53] <paulproteus> weplab (weplabs) is better.
[12:53] <paulproteus> I took a course from the guy who wrote airsnort's algorithm, actually.
[12:53] <[dEvIL-bOY] > does it do the same?
[12:53] <paulproteus> Same thing, just faster.
[12:53] <[dEvIL-bOY] > bullshit!!!
[12:53] <burnez> sure... but my English is not that good..
[12:53] <[dEvIL-bOY] > :P
[12:53] <paulproteus> burnez: Write it up with a note saying your English isn't good, and someone else will come by and fix it. :)
[12:53] <paulproteus> That's the nice thing about wikis.
[12:53] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but do you know if i can install weplabs from synaptic?
[12:54] <burnez> oh, u did not talk to me.. fine! Thank you very much, paulproteus
[12:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have searched for it
[12:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and no joy
[12:54] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : No, it's not.
[12:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > paulproteus, come on! could you please share your wisdom with us?
[12:54] <paulproteus> Airsnort is fine, then, and easiest.
[12:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hummmm..
[12:55] <paulproteus> I've only ever used airsnort anyway.
[12:55] <burnez> 'k, thanx again and cy'all!
[12:55] <paulproteus> Ciao, burnez.
[12:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > you see when i run airsnort it gives me a error message saying could not start monitor
[12:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > you see when i run airsnort it gives me a error message saying could not start monitor mode
[12:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > do you have the same problem?
[12:56] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and another issue with my ubuntu, i add to a panel a battery status but it doesn't work as it should
[12:56] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : Its ability to do that will depend on your driver.
[12:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > it's plugged into the mains and it says running on battery
[12:57] <paulproteus> For some drivers, you need to patch them and rebuild them.
[12:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but i would imagine that orinoco driveres would work fine
[12:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > although i haven't installed any drivers
[12:57] <paulproteus> I had to patch my orinoco for monitor mode.
[12:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ahhh
[12:57] <paulproteus> As for battery, I don't really know about that.
[12:58] <[dEvIL-bOY] > could you possibly tell me that patch name to see if i can find it?
[12:58] <[dEvIL-bOY] > please
[12:58] <bitserf> right, whoever suggested i reboot, thanks. i never thought the day would arrive i'd need a reboot to get my panels to work :) i did a single user mode, which i thought was equivalent, but apparently not...wonder if it was related to nautilus &c being blocked on a futex() syscall...seen bugginess w.r.t. to that on Fedora before
[12:58] <paulproteus> You should go to the web site for airsnort and look there.
[12:59] <paulproteus> bitserf: Awesome, glad to hear it.
[12:59] <paulproteus> Hey, does Nautilus' SFTP/SSH GNOME-VFS work, then?
[12:59] <[dEvIL-bOY] > paulproteus,  you see the thing is i haven't installed anything yet without the synaptic package manager
[12:59] <[dEvIL-bOY] > as I don't know any better
[01:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and then, their website must have loads of patches
[01:00] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : To make this work, it'll take work.  So going to the airsnort site is the first place to look.
[01:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok
[01:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > will do
[01:01] <[dEvIL-bOY] > paulproteus,  how to find out which is my driver version?
[01:02] <andrea> hi, guys
[01:02] <tmp> i cant chnage the default text editor, now i'm stuck with using gedit ? any idea if there is a work around to this ?
[01:03] <[dEvIL-bOY] > tic tac tic tac
[01:04] <paulproteus> Sorry, I have to go.  I will probably be back later.
[01:04] <saoul> hi
[01:04] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : It's been so long I don't remember; I'd just read the information on the site.
[01:04] <bitserf> paul: hmm, it appears not. i tried typing in an sftp:// URI, and also the Connect To Server  method
[01:04] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i'm reading it as well, there's the command and all that
[01:04] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but which one to download
[01:05] <bitserf> paul: running ethereal shows SSH traffic going across though (don't know SSH protocol well enough to comment on why its failing), it just never prompted me for authentication credentials
[01:05] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hey peeps
[01:06] <[dEvIL-bOY] > is there any command that i can type in a terminal to see my drivers version for a wireless card
[01:06] <[dEvIL-bOY] > on my device manager it says unknwon
[01:08] <bitserf> mein gott...the new find-as-you type stuff for tree/list views in gtk 2.6.x is awesome
[01:08] <bitserf> (pops up a little textbox if it has focus, typing moves selected item to matches)
[01:08] <rjek> Hello.
[01:09] <rjek> Anybody who was/is at the conference know when Kinnison left/is leaving?
[01:13] <bitserf> paul: seems i spoke too soon...i can SFTP into boxes for which i've set up SSH key auth
[01:16] <guerriero> aho
[01:16] <guerriero> ci seite
[01:16] <guerriero> siete
[01:26] <Ad__> hello
[01:28] <__learner__> Hi. I would like to know a good cd burning program
[01:29] <StevenR_Ubuntu> __learner__: k3b
[01:29] <__learner__> K3b, will it work under Gnome
[01:29] <__learner__> does K3B have a GUI?
[01:29] <__learner__> I want something I can use like Nero. Because I need other people to use it to.
[01:29] <StevenR_Ubuntu> __learner__: no. It is a gui frontend to cdrecord
[01:30] <__learner__> tx. So I need to get cdrecord and K3b?
[01:30] <StevenR_Ubuntu> __learner__: well synaptic should resolve dependancies for oyu
[01:30] <StevenR_Ubuntu> *you
[01:30] <__learner__> tx
[01:31] <__learner__> Isn't there any gnome compatible version?
[01:32] <StevenR_Ubuntu> not of k3b (note the k :) )
[01:32] <StevenR_Ubuntu> maybe gnomebaker
[01:35] <__learner__> I installed K3B, will it work?
[01:36] <StevenR_Ubuntu> __learner__: you wont know until you try :)
[01:36] <__learner__> yeah, it's downloading right now.
[01:37] <Josephus> hoary is like sid in debian?
[01:37] <Josephus> i mean the number of broken packages, bugfixes
[01:37] <thenuke> haha :) it took about 20minutes or more to boot ubuntu LiveCD on my laptop :D
[01:38] <__learner__> this is on theyr website: Cdrecord won't run anymore when configured suid root. The reason is that the new kernel forbids suid root programs to use the SCSI subsystem - have you tried it with ubuntu?
[01:38] <johann_> hi any ubuntu chessplayers here
[01:38] <thenuke> Josephus: hoary is the upcoming version and is unstable atm
[01:39] <thenuke> __learner__: I used k3b, works ok when it is run as a root
[01:40] <Josephus> thenuke: i know, but i pulled firefox 1.0 from hoary, and it updated something by dependency, and my warty gdm is not working. so othe question is how unstable is it?
[01:40] <__learner__> just sudo k3b?
[01:40] <Josephus> i've been using debian/sid before ubuntu
[01:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > helloz
[01:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how do i add a search engine to firefox?
[01:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > it used to be so simple in windows
[01:41] <IRCMonkey> ciao
[01:44] <johann_> devil-boy : sudo firefox add the search engine when a normal user launches firefox it will be there.
[01:45] <johann_> no chess players?
[01:45] <[dEvIL-bOY] > so it would be something lie sudo firefox imdb
[01:45] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ?
[01:46] <johann_> open root terminal : type sudo firefox
[01:46] <thenuke> no need for sudo if you use root terminal
[01:46] <johann_> true
[01:47] <[dEvIL-bOY] > nope, i'm not using root
[01:47] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i might mess it up
[01:48] <johann_> from normal terminal type sudo firefox
[01:48] <[dEvIL-bOY] > gotcha
[01:48] <[dEvIL-bOY] > so basicly whenever i want to do changes to applications and stuff i need to use the sudo command
[01:48] <[dEvIL-bOY] > right?
[01:49] <johann_> not always but firefox requires it for certain tasks
[01:49] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok
[01:49] <[dEvIL-bOY] > sweet as!
[01:49] <johann_> extensions and themes don't require it but security updates etc do
[01:49] <[dEvIL-bOY] > another question
[01:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how to find out drivers version on ubuntu?
[01:50] <johann_> for what in particular
[01:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > humm..
[01:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > wireless on board card
[01:51] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i'm trying to patch my orinoco card so i can use airsnort
[01:51] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but no joy :(
[01:51] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i don't know which version to download
[01:51] <johann_> sorry I can't help with that one
[01:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > it's all good
[01:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what type of multiplayer games have we got available for ubuntu?
[01:53] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok
[01:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what about bit torrent? i installed a version from synaptic
[01:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > now i downloaded a torrent
[01:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and it gave me an error running application
[01:56] <[dEvIL-bOY] > which of the following types of linux is ubuntu? Linux GTK  Linux Motif  Linux PPC  Linux AMD64
[01:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ppc?
[01:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > laptop p4?
[01:57] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : those are not types of linux
[01:58] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : ubuntu is GNU/Linux based on Debian
[01:58] <scizzo> GTK is a interface thingy and so is motif
[01:58] <[dEvIL-bOY] > humm..
[01:59] <[dEvIL-bOY] > sounds a bit complicated
[01:59] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : www,gtk.org
[01:59] <[dEvIL-bOY] > interface between machine and software?
[01:59] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/
[01:59] <scizzo> read that instead
[02:00] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : Debian is multiplatform thingy...
[02:02] <[dEvIL-bOY] > scizzo, so if i wanted to download a software that was asking me the options for the interface
[02:02] <[dEvIL-bOY] > which one would i choose ? any?
[02:03] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : well....do you know of any options?
[02:03] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : might happen that you could do that later with the software..
[02:03] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : leave it blank if you don't know
[02:03] <scizzo> hold on
[02:03] <scizzo> what software?
[02:04] <scizzo> Linux GTK in that case
[02:04] <[dEvIL-bOY] > http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[02:04] <superted> any russians here?
[02:04] <scizzo> which means you are using Linux with a interface that is GTK based
[02:04] <[dEvIL-bOY] > so can i have that for future reference
[02:04] <[dEvIL-bOY] > or it's different in different cases/
[02:04] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ?
[02:05] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : that depends on how the software is compiled
[02:05] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ...
[02:05] <scizzo> well..its different anyway
[02:06] <scizzo> in this case..if you are using GNOME and so on for Ubuntu its GTK
[02:06] <[dEvIL-bOY] > gotcha
[02:06] <[dEvIL-bOY] > scizzo, could you talk me trhough an installation?
[02:07] <The_Nalf> scizzo: ? hey scizzo :)) (fabrice #gnomemeeting)
[02:08] <scizzo> The_Nalf: y0 The_Nalf :)
[02:08] <scizzo> [dEvIL-bOY] : ummm
[02:10] <[dEvIL-bOY] > well i never installed anything and now i have something that i need to install in tar.bz2
[02:10] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ....
[02:14] <scizzo> tar xjvf file.tar.bz2
[02:18] <BlacKnight|> so who's around?
[02:22] <trukulo> hi ppl
[02:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how can i have access to a windows pc trough a network?
[02:26] <Deathy> hi. does warty 4.10 have support for multi-processor systems? I need to install it on a dual Xeon
[02:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have access to one pc on my network but the one i need to have access doesn't let me access it
[02:26] <rjek> What do you want to do?  Just access the files on it, or remote control it?
[02:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > files in it
[02:28] <paulproteus> Deathy: Yes.  It has an SMP kernel you can apt-get.
[02:28] <rjek> [dEvIL-bOY] : OK.  Can you ping the Windows box you're trying to access?
[02:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i'll try
[02:29] <rjek> [dEvIL-bOY] : Also, what error, if any, is it reporting when you try to access files on it?
[02:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > yeah
[02:29] <Deathy> paulproteus and what's the exact command?
[02:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > something like priveladges
[02:29] <rjek> [dEvIL-bOY] : Providing precise reports makes it easier to solve your problem.
[02:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > the folder contents can not be displayed
[02:30] <paulproteus> devusb: apt-get install linux-686-smp
[02:30] <paulproteus> Deathy: , rather.
[02:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "Windows Network: source".
[02:32] <[dEvIL-bOY] > rjek,  any thoughts on that?
[02:36] <drelch> hi
[02:37] <drelch> little question: how can i add keyboard scancodes to X. so that i can use my internetkeyboard with programs like lineakd? the "setkeycodes" command only works in the console
[02:48] <knoppix> I just installed ubuntu, but when I reboot I get grub booting stage 1.5 error 17 and then it hangs.  How am I supposed to download any updates?
[02:51] <NeoXed> ... it asks you to download updates while it installs
[02:51] <knoppix> Hmmm.
[02:51] <knoppix> I will try that.
[02:51] <NeoXed> kk :)
[02:55] <uuuu> how do i connect to a ftp
[02:55] <uuuu> ?
[02:55] <uuuu> in a terminal
[02:56] <NanoTek> Kikoo !! :p
[02:56] <NeoXed> not sure but i think its connect <IP_ADDRESS>:21
[02:57] <uuuu> ok
[02:57] <NeoXed> not sure but i think its connect <IP_ADDRESS>:21:user:pass
[02:57] <NeoXed> try that
[02:58] <uuuu> ok
[02:59] <uuuu> nope
[02:59] <uuuu> didn't work
[03:01] <NeoXed> type 'man ftp'
[03:01] <uuuu> ftp login
[03:01] <NeoXed> maybe it has help menu
[03:01] <uuuu> i got that
[03:01] <uuuu> i'm on ftp
[03:01] <uuuu> and it does had a help
[03:01] <uuuu> but ...can't figure it out
[03:01] <NeoXed> lol
[03:01] <NeoXed> download a GUI ftp client
[03:04] <domo> hi
[03:05] <domo> when I try to install i get that error msg: make: *** /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:05] <NeoXed> redownload the iso?
[03:06] <Guardiann> hello
[03:06] <NeoXed> :)
[03:06] <domo> I download the kernel source, make the modules and symbolic link but after that I have this message:  No rule to make target `Graphic'.  Stop.
[03:06] <domo> Someone can help me to understand ?
[03:07] <domo> hi Guardiann
[03:07] <Guardiann> hi
[03:07] <NeoXed> no clue im kinda newbie my self
[03:07] <scoon> domo,
[03:07] <scoon> domo, what is the problem
[03:07] <Guardiann> eveyone here using ubuntu?
[03:07] <domo> I try to install my drivers for my graphic card
[03:08] <domo> a intel 855G
[03:08] <oh8gdv> Guardiann: probably not
[03:08] <NeoXed> Guardiann i think so
[03:08] <NeoXed> lol
[03:08] <domo> I download the drives from the intel site
[03:08] <Guardiann> :)
[03:08] <NeoXed> well bet alot are
[03:08] <oh8gdv> from 291 if everyone is..
[03:08] <oh8gdv> yeah
[03:08] <oh8gdv> probably most. but not all
[03:08] <domo> but when I launch the install script i get this error msg
[03:08] <Guardiann> how do you guys like it
[03:08] <usual> I love it
[03:09] <NeoXed> i used to hate linux now i like it due to ubuntu
[03:09] <scoon> domo, all right.  you need to put them somewhere in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[03:09] <Guardiann> i am d/l it now
[03:09] <scoon> domo, after that, do a depmod -a
[03:09] <oh8gdv> ubuntu is debian done right (from a workstation perspective anyways)
[03:09] <scoon> then you should be able to load them
[03:09] <domo> I like it also Guardiann
[03:09] <usual> is anyone using ubuntu as a server?
[03:10] <scoon> Guardiann, best running distro i have used in the 6yrs i have been running linux
[03:10] <domo> but where I find this build directory scoon
[03:10] <scoon> domo, well is there a README w/ the drivers you are getting ?
[03:10] <scoon> are the modules native or are they something esle
[03:10] <Guardiann> very good good to hear
[03:10] <domo> nope :(
[03:11] <domo> the only README that I find is for the rpm package
[03:11] <scoon> domo, what is the site addy
[03:11] <domo> 1s scoon, I find it
[03:12] <Guardiann> i am looking forward to this
[03:14] <domo> I get the drivers from here: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/filter_results.asp?strOSs=39&strTypes=DRV%2CARC&ProductID=922&OSFullName=Linux*&submit=Go%21
[03:15] <usual> the kernel doesn't have drivers for that?
[03:16] <domo> and the README can be find here but it's just about RPM stuff: ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/7485/ENG/readme.txt
[03:16] <usual> ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/7485/ENG/readme.txt
[03:16] <haffe> Ok, I'm back. Still no luck getting ubuntu to boot
[03:17] <domo> the graphic card work, but I the color are not respected, and I thinking, that the official drivers that can correct that
[03:18] <domo> maybe I can do that by a other way ?
[03:18] <scoon> domo, you could look into alien is a deb that will install rpms
[03:18] <domo> I'm on a laptop and every think is to bright on my screen
[03:19] <domo> allright, I will try it
[03:19] <scoon> domo, but i don't think that is a very good idea.
[03:19] <domo> so what is the right idea for you ?
[03:19] <scoon> domo, i think that may be a bit of a hack, i have never used alien so i don't know tho..............
[03:19] <scoon> domo, use the kernel module.
[03:20] <domo> you know a way to change contrast and brightness on X ?
[03:20] <scoon> domo, start with the docs that come with a kernel source and then pose around from there.
[03:20] <scoon> domo, doesn't your monitor have controls for that ?
[03:20] <scoon> or screen or whatever
[03:21] <domo> only for brightness but it's not precise
[03:21] <domo> it's a laptop
[03:21] <domo> I try xgamma but I didn t see any differrence
[03:21] <AndyR> lo ppl
[03:21] <Nivlem> Hi AndyR:
[03:21] <domo> scoon, witch kernel module ?
[03:22] <scoon> domo, what do you mean by precise ?
[03:22] <domo> sorry for my english scoon :)
[03:22] <scoon> domo, in the kernel source tree there is a dir called Documentation, that is where i'd start looking first.
[03:22] <Nivlem> To start ntp time sync is the command: /etc/init.d/ntpd start?
[03:22] <scoon> or look for some help w/ xfree or x.org whatever you are using
[03:22] <scoon> are you warty
[03:23] <domo> precise = precisly
[03:24] <domo> scoon, yes I am
[03:24] <anir> hey guys
[03:24] <anir> #ubuntu
[03:24] <domo> ok, I go to look at the documentation
[03:24] <scoon> domo, so then you are using xfree
[03:24] <anir> i am sick of this os
[03:24] <domo> yes
[03:25] <scoon> anir, well it def is not worse than xp
[03:25] <anir> why this OS is so  slow??
[03:25] <domo> so, I have to install the source kernel for that
[03:25] <anir> scoon why is this so slow?
[03:25] <domo> it's not slow for me
[03:25] <scoon> anir, could you define what "slow" means.  it would make it much easier to help
[03:25] <anir> scoon i dont know much of programming so i guess its not for me
[03:25] <anir> okay
[03:26] <scoon> anir, who said anything about programming
[03:26] <anir> scoon see when i start 2 or more windows at the same time .. i cant work
[03:26] <Nivlem> Yeah I have to agree with scoon...Ubunut runs like a bat out of hell on my AMD 1.6 with 384megs ram
[03:26] <Nivlem> *Ubuntu*
[03:27] <housetier> don't bats usually FLY? ;)
[03:27] <scoon> anir, what are the 2 windows ? what are your hw specs ? more info plz
[03:27] <anir> scoon i have a P3 with 128 MB SD ram
[03:27] <scoon> anir, what are you trying to open
[03:27] <anir> My space for Ubuntu is 9 GB scoon
[03:27] <scoon> anir, what are you tring to open
[03:27] <Nivlem> housetier: Yes they do...just a saying..heh
[03:28] <housetier> :D
[03:28] <anir> i opened one web browser and and the synaptic package scoon
[03:28] <scoon> anir, first thing, how much swap space did you set up when you installed ubuntu
[03:28] <paulproteus> Nivlem: I don't get it - is bats-out-of-hell fast or slow?
[03:28] <anir> is my configuration is sufficient for ubuntu? scoon
[03:29] <scoon> anir, the rule of them is 2 times the amount of physical ram
[03:29] <Nivlem> paulproteus: It means it is really FAST!
[03:29] <Nivlem> Gotta run...L8R
[03:29] <anir> so how much swap space i have to use scoon??
[03:29] <scoon> anir, when you ran the install, how much swap did you use
[03:29] <paulproteus> anir: I think the two factors facing your performance are (1) RAM size and (2) video card choice.
[03:30] <scoon> anir, the general rule of thumb is twice the amount of physical ram
[03:30] <Cyberjames> hi! what is the root password for ubuntu?
[03:30] <anir> so for me its 256 right scoon
[03:30] <paulproteus> Cyberjames: None.  See the FAQ as regards root.
[03:30] <anir> is 128 MB ram is sufficient?
[03:30] <scoon> anir, 2 * 128 = 256
[03:30] <paulproteus> URL in topic.
[03:30] <scoon> anir, seems that your math is correct.
[03:31] <anir> okay..actually i did not allcate any swap space while installing ubuntu scoon
[03:31] <anir> thank you scoon..lol
[03:31] <scoon> anir, well there you go.
[03:31] <scoon> anir, you don't have much ram and you have NO swap space
[03:31] <scoon> anir, that would really suck
[03:32] <anir> is it very necessary scoon??
[03:32] <scoon> anir, so yes, linux is very slow when set up like that.
[03:32] <scoon> anir, what do you think
[03:32] <scoon> anir, are you happy w/ the way your box runs.
[03:32] <anir> okay scoon..i will do it now..actually this is the first time i am installing Linux
[03:32] <scoon> anir, it will crash soon
[03:32] <anir> okay so i am going and reinstalling it scoon...
[03:33] <mupe> I have an ubuntu desktop comp with 384 MB RAM and it doesn't usually seem to use swap...
[03:33] <anir> thank you for your help..scoon...see you  soon
[03:33] <scoon> anir, good start. i bet you will notice a difference.
[03:33] <scoon> mupe, yea well i have a gig of ram and a gig of swap.  yet i rarely hit swap.
[03:33] <anir> cool scoon bye
[03:33] <scoon> anir, l8r
[03:34] <scoon> mupe, but every so often i use a bit of it.
[03:35] <mupe> what is the rule of swap = 2 * ram amout based on?
[03:36] <scoon> mupe, don't know.  it was someting i read in the kernel docs some where and have stuck w/ it.
[03:36] <scoon> mupe, i bet with a little effort the reasoning could be found but i just never gave a shit.
[03:37] <scoon> mupe seems to work tho
[03:40] <domo> someone is on warty here ?
[03:41] <superted> em
[03:41] <superted> pretty much everyone?
[03:42] <domo> oups I means hoary
[03:42] <domo> so I can try it, it's enought stable ?
[03:43] <Simira> it works for me
[03:43] <Simira> mostly
[03:43] <superted> me too
[03:44] <domo> oki, so I will make the jump
[03:44] <superted> but it's unstable at times
[03:45] <domo> I m tired of Xfree, I hope X will manage better my graphic card
[03:48] <cristiano> hi guys. anyone can pls tell me where is the grub.conf file?
[03:51] <cristiano> any answer?pls!^^
[03:52] <hashar>  /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:53] <cristiano> maybe thx i try it;)
[03:54] <pettsson> does any1 know if there are any problems with gf2mx-cards in ubuntu?
[03:54] <usual> pettsson, shouldn't be
[03:54] <usual> pettsson, are you using nvidia drivers?
[03:55] <hashar> hmm do you think I can use debian3.0 installer to install ubuntu ?  ;o)
[03:55] <pettsson> the installation goes well but when i remove the install-disc and reboot my screen goes blank (cant select any drivers then)
[03:55] <usual> pettsson, install the nvidia drivers
[03:56] <pettsson> but i cant even boot after that i removed the install cd
[03:56] <paulproteus> hashar: Yes.  You can do that.
[03:56] <hashar> paulproteus> just have to use a ubuntu file mirror ? :p
[03:56] <usual> pettsson, what happens
[03:58] <pettsson> can i ad nv as a bootparameter?
[03:58] <pettsson> add
[04:05] <Bandit> when installing ubuntu is there commands similar to adsl-setup to setup my dsl connection
[04:06] <JStrike> pettsson : You can use Recovery Mode and then edit /etc/X11/xorg
[04:10] <miausX> hi!
[04:12] <hashar> anyone got a deb repository URL to install from network please ? :o)
[04:12] <hashar> I can only find ISOs
[04:12] <pettsson> try "your country code".debian.org
[04:13] <hashar> ;)
[04:13] <hashar> not really helpfull to grab ubuntu
[04:14] <Bandit> anyone know how to setup ubunto tp use my dsl modem
[04:15] <miausX> hashar, you are asking about servers for the sources.list? a ftp mirror to grab ubuntu iso?
[04:15] <hashar> I managed to find one : ftp://ftp.belnet.be/packages/ubuntu/dists/
[04:16] <miausX> Bandit, I have not idea, maybe you can find something searching in the ubuntu wiki, debian.org/doc or google
[04:16] <hashar> I am doing a network installation since I dont got any cd burner o)
[04:16] <lukins> can someone share with me their cdrom line from /etc/fstab?
[04:16] <miausX> hashar, hum? -- deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted universe multiverse
[04:17] <hashar> great :)
[04:17] <miausX> lukins, of course -->/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[04:17] <miausX> hashar, err... do you want ALL my sources.list?
[04:17] <miausX> I can paste it in a query :)
[04:17] <lukins> miausx, that's pretty much what i have, but when i boot up, the cdrom0 keeps being deleted
[04:17] <the_gummibear> how can i play a dvd with the menu's?
[04:18] <miausX> Humboldt, I have two entries, cdrom0 and cdrom1, I don't have that problem in warty
[04:18] <miausX> the_gummibear,  try xine-ui or ogle :)
[04:18] <the_gummibear> let's give it a try :)
[04:19] <miausX> the_gummibear, maybe you need libdvdcss2 (from marillat repository) :)
[04:19] <JStrike> Or latest gstreamer supports it iirc
[04:19] <miausX> here it is --> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[04:19] <the_gummibear> hmm.. how can i add those marillat repository
[04:19] <miausX> JStrike, yeah :)
[04:19] <the_gummibear> ah :)
[04:19] <miausX> the_gummibear, ;))
[04:20] <miausX> lukins, how can I help you?
[04:20] <ed_gein> Are there any major obstacles installing winxp and ubuntu on seperate hds?
[04:20] <miausX> ed_gein, I don't think so... I should install winXP in the master HD and Ubuntu in the slave hd :)
[04:21] <the_gummibear> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/marillat/testing/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian-marillat/dists/marillat/testing/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory  '
[04:21] <the_gummibear> :(
[04:21] <miausX> did you put "deb" at the begining of the line, the_gummibear?
[04:21] <miausX> it works fine for me right now
[04:21] <lukins> miausx, i'm reading something about adding ide-scsi to grub, so let me try that, thanks for your help
[04:22] <miausX> no prob :)
[04:22] <the_gummibear> binary (deb) i have
[04:22] <miausX> Humboldt, me too :?
[04:22] <ed_gein> lukins: which kernel are you running
[04:22] <lukins> 2.6.8
[04:22] <miausX> ouch... sorry... s/Humboldt/hum :S
[04:23] <ed_gein> I didn;t think you needed scsi emulation with the 2.6 series kernel
[04:23] <miausX> yeah
[04:23] <lukins> ok, cdrecord -scanbus gives me a lot of errors though
[04:23] <miausX> no no
[04:24] <miausX> lukins, with a 2.6 kernel you can use this: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc :))
[04:24] <lukins> let me try!
[04:24] <miausX> you DON'T need scsi emulation :)
[04:25] <the_gummibear> buh, really can't get on those ftp's :(
[04:25] <lukins> cdrecord: No tracks specified. Need at least one. ...and a bunch of other stuff
[04:25] <talibkweli> hello
[04:25] <miausX> the_gummibear, ouch! strange, I have all working
[04:26] <miausX> lukins, no no, you have to put more options, the line I have pasted only was an example :)
[04:26] <the_gummibear> typo :p
[04:26] <ed_gein> isn't it cdrecord --scanbus?
[04:27] <lukins> AAAHAHAHAHAH
[04:27] <ed_gein> as opposed ot cdrecord -scanbus
[04:27] <lukins> oh
[04:27] <the_gummibear> now xine-ui :)
[04:27] <ed_gein> I'm probably wrong
[04:27] <miausX> cdrecord speed=30 dev=/dev/hdc -eject -driveropts=burnfree -gracetime=2 blah.iso --- another example :)
[04:28] <miausX> ed_gein, let me try it
[04:28] <miausX> ed_gein, no, it's the same :)
[04:28] <ed_gein> <- at a windows box
[04:28] <ed_gein> ok
[04:28] <lukins> blashpemy
[04:28] <miausX> lol
[04:29] <miausX> ed_gein, qemu + ubuntu?
[04:31] <ed_gein> hopefully they won't kill one another
[04:31] <ed_gein> j/k
[04:31] <karlos> they like to try
[04:31] <ed_gein> I'm sure
[04:31] <the_gummibear> what is a recen i386 ?
[04:31] <the_gummibear> *recent
[04:31] <the_gummibear> mine is 1,5y old
[04:31] <karlos> 1.5 i remember that
[04:33] <miausX> brb
[04:35] <karlos> anyone remember the dpkg command that lets you see the packages installed on your system
[04:36] <karlos> i got xfce4.2 installed from .bin this morning .... very impressive....well worth a go
[04:36] <the_gummibear> ogle ain't working at all.. guess i'll need to go to windows for that stupid dvd :(
[04:37] <ljlane> karlos, dpkg -l
[04:37] <karlos> thanx
[04:41] <Qerub> the_gummibear: got decss?
[04:42] <EfaistOs> hi
[04:43] <the_gummibear> not that i know, what is decss?
[04:43] <EfaistOs> does someone have a webcam ? i've got a quickcam communicate of logitech ... do u know how to detect it ?
[04:44] <Qerub> the_gummibear: most dvd movies are scrambled and you need a decss enabled libdvdread to see them.
[04:45] <the_gummibear> i have libdvdread
[04:45] <the_gummibear> i can play dvd's, but i can never get the root menu
[04:45] <paulproteus> And you need libdvdcss2 that does DeCSS>
[04:46] <Qerub> the_gummibear: on my debian system, i've got a /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[04:46] <Qerub> the_gummibear: if you got it, run it.
[04:46] <the_gummibear> done :p
[04:46] <the_gummibear> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:46] <cenerentola> ogra: ping
[04:46] <the_gummibear> is what it returns
[04:47] <Qerub> the_gummibear: do you have apt-get/aptitude/synaptic running?
[04:47] <Quest-Master> Could someone please, please, please help me with this?
[04:47] <Qerub> the_gummibear: try running "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh"
[04:47] <Quest-Master> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7910
[04:48] <Quest-Master> I've been at it for weeks
[04:48] <Quest-Master> I really need it fixed
[04:48] <Quest-Master> :(
[04:48] <the_gummibear> Setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.5-1) ...
[04:48] <the_gummibear> synaptic was running :p
[04:48] <Qerub> the_gummibear: sounds good.
[04:49] <Qerub> the_gummibear: try playing a movie now.
[04:49] <the_gummibear> prefered program?
[04:49] <Qerub> the_gummibear: totem with xine backend, i guess.
[04:49] <Qerub> the_gummibear: (package: totem-xine)
[04:49] <D0wnXcaST> I'm trying to config my internet on ubuntu, i'm not able. I have a cable modem plug to my ethernet card. I do : Sudo ifconfig eth0 down; dhclient eth0; ifconfig eth0 up . and its written that permission is denied ....
[04:49] <D0wnXcaST> It worked once, but i had to reconfig. and didnt work anymore?
[04:50] <Qerub> Quest-Master: try another ftp client like ncftp...
[04:50] <Qerub> Quest-Master: and see what it says.
[04:50] <Qerub> D0wnXcaST: you should be using "ifup" and "ifdown" first of all. and you need to be root, so use sudo.
[04:50] <D0wnXcaST> Im root
[04:51] <Quest-Master> I want to be able to directly open files from an FTP server with gEdit though Qerub
[04:51] <D0wnXcaST> so, i should do , sudo ifdown eth0; ...
[04:51] <D0wnXcaST> ?
[04:51] <Qerub> D0wnXcaST: yes
[04:51] <the_gummibear> the menu is still not loading :s
[04:51] <D0wnXcaST> ok, ill go and try this
[04:51] <Qerub> Quest-Master: I'm not saying you should continue to use ncftp, just see what happens.
[04:52] <the_gummibear> it starts playing the movie but can't get on any menu
[04:52] <Qerub> Quest-Master: It's probably more verbose.
[04:52] <Quest-Master> Ok
[04:52] <Quest-Master> I'll try it
[04:54] <prak> hello .. .can someone help me fix dvd playback on xine? it was working well until i went to ubuntoguide.org and started adding packages. now it DVD playback fails with one or more errors (the most obvious error is invalid MRL)
[04:56] <ubuntu> hello.ervey boy
[04:57] <ubuntu> how can i install cvs server on ubuntu
[04:57] <the_gummibear> pff, i'll just go to windows for the dvd.. it's not working here
[04:57] <the_gummibear> thx anyway :)
[04:58] <D0wnXcaST> nice, i finally got my eth0 conifg :P
[05:00] <superted> i notice there is a package called diveintopython
[05:00] <superted> how can i read it ?
[05:01] <paulproteus> superted: If it's installed look in
[05:01] <paulproteus> /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/
[05:01] <imka> hi
[05:02] <imka> if i select a language at the beginning of the install, that'll effect the locale, the keyboard layout, and gnome, right? cause i wanna install ubuntu on my gonnabefatherinlaw`s pc but he only speaks hungarian
[05:02] <azta> anyone know of a guide to get sleep/wake working properly on an ibook ?
[05:03] <azta> I had debian on it about 18months ago, and it worked. With warty and hoary it just sits there on resume with some cpufreq warning message...
[05:03] <imka> azta don't know, sorry
[05:03] <paulproteus> azta: It should work with Warty.  What iBook?
[05:04] <azta> paulproteus: a g3
[05:04] <azta> 12"
[05:04] <azta> 500mhz
[05:04] <paulproteus> I had to put a patch in my kernel to make my iBook G4 sleep.
[05:04] <paulproteus> Try running powerprefs and making sure it's set to sleep on lid-shut.
[05:04] <azta> but these older ones don't need It I think
[05:04] <paulproteus> If it's plugged into power, it may not sleep by default; I think default is sleep on shut if on battery.
[05:04] <imka> any ideas regarding my question? ^^^
[05:04] <paulproteus> Yeah, I think they don't need any patch.
[05:04] <azta> oh, lemmi look what it's set up to do
[05:05] <paulproteus> imka: I think so.
[05:05] <azta> it does sleep though. The powerled starts "breathing", but resume gets stuck
[05:05] <azta> booting...
[05:05] <imka> paulproteus apt takes care of it right? so i should get a hungarian gnome, even if there's nothing about hungarian translation on the ubuntu website (i have offered my services btw)
[05:06] <paulproteus> I think that's right.
[05:06] <imka> nice. thanks
[05:06] <paulproteus> I've never used translations myself.
[05:06] <azta> I'm impressed with cpufreq and powernowd working nice outathebox
[05:07] <azta> in fact i'm impressed with ubuntu altogether... great job guys
[05:09] <teuteu> salut!!!!
[05:10] <miausX> azta, yeah, me too... I can't wait to hoary :D~
[05:10] <teuteu> salut!!!!-fr
[05:11] <azta> paulproteus: yeah, it sleeps on AC and battery lid-close
[05:11] <paulproteus> Oh.  Hmm.
[05:12] <azta> on wake, I get "cpufreq: resume failed to assert current frequency is what timing core thinks it is."
[05:12] <azta> perhaps it's that thats stopping it wake fully
[05:12] <azta> after that I see "eth0: resuming eth1: Airport waking up eth1: New link status: Connected (0001)" then it just sits there and needs a reboot.
[05:14] <azta> can you disable cpufreq with a bootparam ? :/
[05:16] <anir> hello guys
[05:17] <anir> hey
[05:17] <anir> how are you all
[05:17] <mousematt> does ubuntu's license or relationship with canonical prevent it from being pre-installed on PCs?
[05:17] <anir> tell me how will i install plug ins for firefox?
[05:17] <azta> mousematt: I can't see how
[05:19] <mousematt> azta: thanks. thats wonderful news
[05:19] <azta> mousematt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/philosophy/document_view
[05:19] <anir> can i install my tv card in ubuntu??
[05:20] <azta> anir: if the kernel has a driver for it.. sure
[05:20] <anir> well i have just installed ubuntu...azta
[05:20] <azta> anir: google.com/linux for your tv card :)
[05:21] <anir> azta i want to install my tv card.. how can i do that
[05:21] <azta> put it in the computer, boot ubuntu, try use it would be the first step
[05:22] <anir> how can i load the software??
[05:22] <anir> which one is better??
[05:22] <azta> dunno. Google.com/linux will :)
[05:22] <azta> apt-cache search tv ?
[05:23] <anir> any linux guri here???
[05:23] <azta> lol
[05:23] <anir> i want help.. i need to talk to
[05:24] <anir> i mean guru.. i am sorry its not guri
[05:24] <azta> Results 1 - 100 of about 582,000 for any gurus here?
[05:25] <azta> just ask your question anir
[05:25] <anir> wait i am coming in a sec
[05:25] <azta> too much information
[05:28] <azta> theres a problem somewhere with the powernowd init script. It's spitting out a "modprobe" usage: message...
[05:34] <alex> Hello
[05:34] <Synek> hello :)
[05:35] <alex> Wow :0
[05:36] <alex> I am Amazed
[05:38] <alex> Helllo
[05:38] <Synek> of being on irc? ;-)
[05:38] <alex> Yes
[05:38] <alex> This is my first time here
[05:39] <njan> hi there, alex.
[05:39] <alex> hello
[05:39] <njan> alex, new to IRC, or linux? (Or both?)
[05:40] <alex> not sure but i have to go I`ll be back
[05:40] <Synek> ;]
[05:46] <haffe> Hmmm, is there someway I can use apt-get from a cdbooted ubuntu?
[05:51] <gsuveg> anyone use universe repo here ?
[05:53] <Synek> gsuveg: i do
[05:54] <gsuveg> Synek: please see me application. msg ok?
[05:57] <gsuveg> can i use pptp in ubuntu ? maybe with modprobe ppp_mppe_mppc
[06:01] <anon26> hi all
[06:01] <anon26> could anyone give me a hand with ndiswrapper?
[06:02] <__learner__> Is there any way for me to configure an email server, so I can send mails without opening my webmail, and the emails go with the FROM field as I want?
[06:02] <socomm> Hello, anyone know how to change xorg's keymapping?
[06:03] <anon26> ndiswrapper builds just fine with module assistant build fails to load with modprobe citing module is wrong format
[06:03] <socomm> dpkg --configure something ...
[06:03] <socomm> I forget, anyone have an idea?
[06:04] <anon26> anyone in here know how to get ndiswrapper to work?
[06:05] <scoon> anon26, never used ndiswrapperd, what are you trying to get to work ?
[06:06] <anon26> ndiswrapper module for kernel<IP_ADDRESS> builds just fine using module-assistant
[06:06] <anon26> but when i try to load the module with modprobe, i keep getting an error saying the module is in the wrong format
[06:07] <socomm> anon26: You may be running a different kernel.
[06:07] <anon26> nope uname- a confirms i am running 2.6.8-3
[06:07] <socomm> Which is it <IP_ADDRESS> or 2.6.8-3?
[06:08] <anon26>  <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[06:08] <socomm> What's the exact error that lsmod returns?
[06:09] <anon26> i don't know what just happens but it magically works now
[06:09] <anir> hey guys
[06:09] <sladen> and girls
[06:09] <anir> does tv cards work in linux?
[06:09] <anir> lol
[06:09] <anon26> i deleted the ndiswrapper folder from /lib/modules/kernel/drivers.....
[06:09] <sladen> anir: yes
[06:09] <anir> no girls here i guess
[06:10] <anon26> rebuilt the module with ndiswrapper and then installed it
[06:10] <anon26> and now it works
[06:10] <anir> sladen can u tell me how?
[06:10] <anon26> could this be a conflict with linux-restricted-modules?
[06:10] <socomm> Girls? Hahaha.
[06:11] <socomm> anir: Some tv cards do work under linux.
[06:11] <fievel> hi
[06:11] <fievel> is there growisofs on ubuntu live cd ?
[06:12] <anir> hey guys
[06:12] <anir> tell me which one is better for watching tv on linux??
[06:12] <scoon> anir, i use tvtime
[06:13] <anir> i have a mercury  made tv card socumm
[06:13] <anir> scoon hi
[06:13] <anir> i have reinstalled the ubuntu scoon
[06:13] <scoon> hello
[06:13] <scoon> ok
[06:13] <socomm> anir: http://www.google.com/linux just look your card up there.
[06:13] <anir> and i can see the diff now scoon
[06:14] <scoon> anir, you were the "no swap" person
[06:14] <scoon> good, good
[06:14] <ankae314> Hello, I know is a FAQ but, how can I change the language ? I've the live version installed
[06:14] <anir> yes scoon...lol unfortunately
[06:14] <anir> now no more scoon
[06:15] <scoon> anir, eh, you resolved it.  good job
[06:15] <scoon> anir, check out tldp.org for some good general info
[06:15] <anir> thyank you scoon.. now i want to install tvtime.. do i have to download it??
[06:15] <anir> scoon
[06:15] <scoon> anir, its in one of the ubuntu repos
[06:16] <scoon> anir, so yes
[06:16] <anir> i will try it scoon..
[06:16] <anir> are you a programmer scoon?
[06:17] <scoon> anir, yes.
[06:17] <ankae314> Hello, how can I change the language ? I've the live version installed
[06:20] <anir> cool.. so for how long you are using linux?
[06:20] <anir> scoon.. what is linux is doing to compete  Long Horn??
[06:20] <[dEvIL-bOy] > hey
[06:20] <[dEvIL-bOy] > can i get some help
[06:20] <scoon> anir, been using it since 1998. Haven't run windows since then
[06:21] <scoon> anir, don't understand your other ?
[06:21] <socomm> [dEvIL-bOy] : Can you?
[06:21] <[dEvIL-bOy] > i have connecter to my home wireless connection with WEP and now that i'm around a friends and he hasn.t got WEP i can't connect
[06:21] <[dEvIL-bOy] > of course i can
[06:21] <[dEvIL-bOy] > there must be some gurus around here
[06:22] <scoon> [dEvIL-bOy] , you need to create another profile for the non-WEP network
[06:22] <socomm> I'd help but I never used WiFI.
[06:22] <scoon> you can create different profiles with the networking tool
[06:23] <[dEvIL-bOy] > ahhh
[06:23] <fievel> is there anywhere a list of packages present in live cd ?
[06:23] <[dEvIL-bOy] > but do i need to type in the SSid?
[06:24] <[dEvIL-bOy] > because it won't let me click next if i don't give it the SSID
[06:24] <anir> okay.. i have been using windows since 1998.. i do programming in C.. well i was asking Windows in lauching Long Horn..new OS..with better GUI for 64 bit pross..what can we expect  from Linux scoon
[06:26] <anir> scoon its asking for installing libruby 1.8  but the available version is libruby 1.7 only what do i do?
[06:27] <superted> anyone else got problems with hoary/python today/yesterday?
[06:28] <anir> scoon u thr???
[06:29] <D0wnXcaST> How come i can't execute any .exe file ? "Could not display /home.... " ???
[06:29] <D0wnXcaST> I need to execute a .exe to creat a dos boot disk
[06:31] <anir> heck anyone here to help me??
[06:31] <D0wnXcaST> ?
[06:31] <anir> downxcast can u help me installing a tv card?
[06:32] <D0wnXcaST> no sorry
[06:32] <anir> can anyone?
[06:32] <cenerentola> anir: ask your question
[06:32] <anir> actually i dont know how to deal with kernal
[06:33] <cenerentola> well turn off the computer... plug the board in... and start
[06:33] <cenerentola> praying when you press the power button
[06:33] <D0wnXcaST> anyone, i cant execute .exe file ?
[06:34] <cenerentola> D0wnXcaST: well you need wine: which is Win Emulator
[06:34] <thenuke> D0wnXcaST: umm.. exes are for windows :)
[06:35] <D0wnXcaST> ok ! :)
[06:35] <D0wnXcaST> lol ! sorry, im really new to linux
[06:36] <anir> cenerentola i want to install my tv card on this os.Ubuntu..
[06:36] <D0wnXcaST> is wine in ubuntu or i have to download it ?
[06:36] <crimsun> it's in 'universe'
[06:37] <crimsun> enable the 'universe' repo, then install it
[06:37] <anir> hey crimsum how are you..remember me>?
[06:37] <crimsun> hi anir
[06:38] <crimsun> I vaguely remember your nick
[06:38] <D0wnXcaST> ok, ill try to find what it is :)
[06:38] <cenerentola> anir: ok turn off the computer and install the card
[06:38] <anir> crimsun i am trying to install  the tv card..dont know how to deal with kernal
[06:38] <anir> card is installed cenerentola
[06:39] <cenerentola> anir: ok... are drivers installed?
[06:39] <anir> no .. i dont know how to install the driver in linux. cenerentola
[06:39] <cenerentola> ahh so lets not speak about kernel things...
[06:40] <cenerentola> what board is it?
[06:40] <anir> its a mercury made
[06:41] <anir> cenerentola its a mercury made
[06:41] <Yeahh> who told that i had to save a profile to access the wi fi?
[06:42] <D0wnXcaST> crimsun: where do i enable univers repo?
[06:43] <Yeahh> and i used to have loads of bookmarks on my firefox but because i made a chande with sudo to add some more search engines it disappear
[06:43] <D0wnXcaST> i found it !
[06:43] <Yeahh> how can i get back to my other profile at start?
[06:43] <anir> downxcast u go to computer..then system configuration...click
[06:43] <Yeahh> anyone?
[06:44] <Yeahh> and another thing
[06:44] <Yeahh> i haven't tested gnome meeting
[06:44] <Yeahh> anyone up for it?
[06:44] <eruin> ello lads... any of you know a nice tool to resize vfat-partitions?
[06:44] <Yeahh> partition magic
[06:44] <eruin> going to install ubuntu on the good old hometown computer :P
[06:44] <housetier> with or without losing data?
[06:45] <eruin> for linux, without losing data :)
[06:45] <anir> what tv card i can use for linux?
[06:45] <Yeahh> that's another issue i had...i can't make my tv out to work
[06:45] <anir> crimsun tell me how can i install libruby 1.8?
[06:45] <Yeahh> on totem movie player
[06:46] <Yeahh> it says that i need to restart to use it
[06:46] <Yeahh> and i done it so
[06:46] <Yeahh> but no luck
[06:46] <anir> when i try to install libruby.. a error msg comes
[06:46] <housetier> eruin you know the answer already: backup! ;D other than that, I don't know of a tool that can accomplish that, although I guess there is at least one
[06:46] <D0wnXcaST> no, i though i had find it, but still didnt find it. I'm in the synaptic package manager, am i right place?
[06:47] <eruin> I guess I'll have to acquire=-09] '\[]
[06:47] <anir> HELP ME
[06:47] <haffe> Ok, nom I'm going insane, this is the fifth time I have reinstalled ubuntu. And I still get GRUB error 17 when booting.
[06:47] <anir> ANYONE
[06:47] <crimsun> anir: please don't shout.
[06:47] <eruin> partitionmagic then (the weird letters were an attempt to use english charset on a .no keyboard)
[06:47] <anir> sorry crimson..
[06:47] <crimsun> anir: warty-security has 1.8.1+1.8.2pre2-3ubuntu0.1
[06:48] <housetier> eruin *maybe* parted can do what you want
[06:48] <crimsun> anir: so just install 'libruby1.8'
[06:48] <anir> from where i will get it?
[06:48] <housetier> eruin although I really recommend backing up your most precious data, just in case
[06:48] <eruin> housetier, thanks... anything but a windows tool (I dont understand windows at all)
[06:48] <tsw> I just have to say: thank you ubuntu team. Ubuntu is the best desktop linux I have tested so far!
[06:48] <anir> hey tsw
[06:49] <anir> i have a few question tsw
[06:49] <eruin> tsw, time to test hoary then =)
[06:49] <housetier> eruin I haven't used parted myself yet, so I don't know of any tips or pitfalls
[06:49] <tsw> anir: go ahead
[06:49] <anir> well whaich linux OS for 64 bit processor?
[06:50] <tsw> eruin: not really in need for never software.. maybe firefox 1.0 would be nice
[06:50] <tsw> anir: asking me ? I just have wet dreams about 64 bit processors :)
[06:51] <anir> tsw why is that??
[06:51] <anir> lol
[06:51] <tsw> anir: atm I have 500Mhz Pentium III ibm laptop on my hands.. :)
[06:51] <sjoerd> ah right, 64 procs the new hype
[06:52] <anir> yeah.. Windows already with LongHorn
[06:52] <D0wnXcaST> I enabled the univers repo. now how do i install wine
[06:53] <crimsun> anir: libruby1.8 is available in main
[06:53] <crimsun> anir: all you have to do is install it
[06:53] <aquarius> I've got a mate, running Ubuntu. He's not very computer literate. I'd like to send him a program to run, which is not packaged for Ubuntu (or Debian). It's currently available as source. What's the best way for me to get the program to him so that he can easily install it? Should I build a deb? (Clicking debs from Nautilus doesn't seem to work on my warty install.)
[06:53] <tsw> D0wnXcaST: apt-get update; apt-get install xine-ui
[06:53] <crimsun> aquarius: what program is it?
[06:54] <anir> main?? can u help me a more crimsun
[06:54] <crimsun> anir: do you use Synaptic?
[06:54] <anir> yes crimsun i do
[06:55] <aquarius> crimsun, in this case it's comical (http://comical.sourceforge.net/), but I'm interested in a more general solution.
[06:55] <D0wnXcaST> Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:55] <D0wnXcaST> i got this message each time i open synaptic now
[06:55] <D0wnXcaST> ???
[06:55] <[Phaedrus] > hey guys
[06:55] <[Phaedrus] > are they shipping free cds to countries outside the US?
[06:55] <crimsun> [Phaedrus] : yes
[06:55] <anir> hey guys does yahoo messanger works in linux?
[06:56] <crimsun> anir: yes, via Gaim's Yahoo transport
[06:56] <[Phaedrus] > thanks crimsun
[06:56] <crimsun> aquarius: use a web search engine to see if anyone has made unofficial debs
[06:56] <D0wnXcaST> anir: yes, use gaim
[06:56] <anir> crimsun i do yes synaptic.. now tell me ahead
[06:56] <crimsun> aquarius: otherwise your best bet is to compile and install it in /usr/local
[06:57] <punkrockguy318> what's the easiest way to get java5 on ubuntu?
[06:57] <crimsun> anir: open Synaptic
[06:57] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: follow the restricted formats howto on the wiki
[06:58] <aquarius> crimsun, yep, that's what *I'd* do, but I don't want to have to talk him through the ./configure, make, make install dance if I can avoid it; I'd rather either ship him a compiled binary or some previously existing thing which does the compilation etc for him. I did think about building my own .deb, but I'm not great at building debs.
[06:58] <crimsun> anir: click the Search icon in the top toolbar; type "libruby1.8" (without the quotes) in the Search box; click Search
[06:58] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, are you talking about creating my own package?
[06:59] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: no, I'm talking about install Java 1.5.0 on Ubuntu
[06:59] <crimsun> installing^
[07:00] <anir> crimsun there is nothing called libruby 1.8 only libryby is there... when i try to install it error msg comes
[07:00] <crimsun> anir: not "libruby 1.8", "libruby1.8"
[07:00] <crimsun> anir: note that there's no whitespace
[07:01] <anir> yes crimsun libruby1.8 only..its not there
[07:02] <anir> when i try to install libruby..it gives error meg saying it needs libruby1.8 which is uninstallable
[07:02] <crimsun> anir: don't try to install libruby. Install libruby1.8 after making sure the 'warty-security' repo is available
[07:03] <crimsun> actually, nevermind
[07:03] <crimsun> it doesn't really matter whether you pull in libruby or libruby1.8 directly
[07:03] <anir> how can i make sure that 'warty-security' repo is available crimsun?
[07:03] <crimsun> anir: in Synaptic, Settings>Repositories
[07:04] <crimsun> anir: there's a line that reads [ ]  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty-security main restricted
[07:04] <anir> then??
[07:04] <crimsun> anir: make sure that [ ]  is checked
[07:05] <anir> okay..crimsun
[07:05] <crimsun> anir: there's another line for 'universe'
[07:05] <crimsun> anir: make sure that box, too, is checked
[07:05] <anir> i have checked the universe crimsun
[07:05] <crimsun> both should be checked, then click OK
[07:05] <crimsun> then click Apply
[07:06] <anir> cool
[07:06] <crimsun> err
[07:06] <crimsun> click Reload
[07:06] <anir> okay
[07:07] <Kirsch> is there a good program to switch network profiles more easily? (Than the Network Configuration)? I have a wireless card and sometimes it takes a good 5-10min before it actually switches. any ideas?
[07:08] <Hikaru79> If I have a .sub file that goes with an .avi video, how do I load that in gxine? I tried simply opening the sub, but nothing showed up... =/
[07:12] <crimsun> Hikaru79: tried searching the web?
[07:12] <snerfu> I just went through the arduous task of upgrading from ubuntu warty to hoary, a few errors and things i had to fix but now that I have it running, I am really glad I did it
[07:12] <anir> where are you from crimsun?
[07:12] <punkrockguy318> what do I add to my sources.list to use http://z42.de/debian/?
[07:13] <tigger|nl> where can I find what program's Gnome automatically starts after login in?
[07:13] <tigger|nl> *programs
[07:14] <anir> why do we use WINE?
[07:14] <tsw> how can I find which package provides libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[07:15] <Riddell> tsw: dpkg -S libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[07:15] <crimsun> anir: southeastern US
[07:15] <crimsun> (libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2)
[07:15] <parallax> How do i Install xpde??
[07:15] <anir> cool you are a great guy crimsun
[07:16] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, what do I need to add to my sources.list to use the http://z42.de/debian/ java packages
[07:16] <tsw> Riddell: not found.. doesnt that search on installed packages only?
[07:16] <crimsun> tsw: I just told you which package you need to install. And yes, only installed packages.
[07:16] <anir> tsw do u have any idea about long horn?
[07:16] <Riddell> tsw: yes, use packages.debian.org for uninstalled packages
[07:17] <anir> crimsun do u have any idea about LongHorn
[07:17] <crimsun> anir: none.
[07:17] <sjoerd> anir: you've got an unhealty obsession with longhorn
[07:17] <tsw> anir: yes I noticed, but just little slow :)
[07:18] <anir> well i am using a trasforming code of LongHorn in Xp..
[07:18] <tsw> and the information that I can use packages.debian.org the same way that on debian is more helpfull on long run :)
[07:18] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: follow the directions
[07:18] <anir> u guys should look at it..competetion will be there
[07:19] <PotajiTo> j ati
[07:19] <punkrockguy318> ls
[07:19] <PotajiTo> wenas
[07:20] <tigger|nl> I'd installed a mail-notification program which automatically started after login in Gnome. But the program wasn't that good, so I removed it with apt-get, but forgot that it was starting automatically. So everytime I login now it gives an error that the mail-notification program can't be found. Were can I disable automatically starting up that program?
[07:20] <anir> i find the GUI greatr there
[07:21] <anir> crimsun.. my tv card doesnot work in linux.
[07:21] <D0wnXcaST> Anyone can tell me how i can create a DOS Boot disk in linux?
[07:21] <anir> u guys should work to make linux more user friendly and more compitible with available softwares
[07:22] <crimsun> you mistake Linux's goal, then.
[07:22] <anir> actually i dont know it crimsun..plz tell me
[07:23] <crimsun> anir: various projects have their own objectives. Not even Ubuntu aims to support everything.
[07:23] <sladen> D0wnXcaST: 'dd'
[07:24] <sladen> D0wnXcaST: dd of=/dev/fd0 if=dos-boot-disk.img
[07:24] <sladen> tigger|nl: is it a panel app?   right-click and remove it
[07:25] <anir> okay..so that means we can never expect a linux OS which will support Visual softwares?? like Visual Basic, VC++ etc
[07:25] <tigger|nl> sladen: no, not a panel app :(
[07:26] <D0wnXcaST> sladen: doesnt work?
[07:26] <crimsun> anir: I would not hold my breath for one, though some have tried.
[07:26] <D0wnXcaST> no such file
[07:27] <anir> crimsun what can we expect from ubuntu's next release?
[07:27] <_blackdog> anir, there is gambas,
[07:27] <D0wnXcaST> ???
[07:27] <_blackdog> it's VB like, I've never used it
[07:28] <_blackdog> has good press tho
[07:28] <crimsun> anir: see the wiki
[07:29] <anir> i am looking for a linux where i can use all the windows softwares..
[07:29] <tigger|nl> it is also not in Computer -> Desktop Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs Tab
[07:29] <anir> oops finally libruby1.8 installed...lol
[07:30] <crimsun> anir: why not just use Windows?
[07:30] <anir> why linux have been made crimsun?
[07:31] <crimsun> anir: that's a FAQ, search the web.
[07:31] <thenuke> anir: to run windows software without windows.
[07:32] <anir> its not about using linux or windows..definitely people will use that OS which gives more
[07:32] <mtl> thenuke: lol
[07:32] <mtl> :D
[07:33] <thenuke> anir: and they also use what they have got used to using :)
[07:33] <anir> crimsun what do i have to  install do play .dat files?
[07:33] <thenuke> most users do not see reason to fix something that works
[07:34] <anir> thenuke thats right..but people always need more.. thats why i am trying linux..and i am quite happy.. the thing is that limited software available here
[07:34] <tiger> hello
[07:34] <anir> thenuke what do i have to install to run .dat files??
[07:35] <thenuke> dunno.  .dat sounds not like something to be installed :)
[07:35] <thenuke> what is it and where did it come from?
[07:35] <anir> to play movie files
[07:36] <thenuke> anir: I have no glue about that :I
[07:36] <crimsun> anir: follow the restricted formats howtos on the wiki
[07:36] <anir> restricted?
[07:37] <_blackdog> apt-get install vlc worked for me, I'm using hoary tho
[07:38] <anir> is there restriction to play movie also crimsun?
[07:40] <tiger> helle
[07:40] <crimsun> see the wiki pages
[07:41] <anir> give me the add of wiki page
[07:42] <crimsun> anir: it's in the topic.
[07:42] <g> does anybody know why when i try to play americas army X restarts?
[07:42] <darkpeter> hi ho
[07:42] <joshua__> sorry
[07:42] <joshua__> hi
[07:43] <darkpeter> ow r u ?
[07:43] <anir> ubuntu doesnot play my music cd too..:(
[07:43] <joshua__> im good, im trying to get americas army to work... but whenever i try to play it restarts X
[07:43] <darkpeter> can u help me for install amsn ??
[07:43] <joshua__> whats that
[07:43] <darkpeter> which line can i put in my sources.list ??
[07:43] <Ribs> darkpeter: use Gaim
[07:43] <darkpeter> it'es a client for msn
[07:43] <darkpeter> ;)
[07:43] <darkpeter> ^
[07:43] <Ribs> amsn really, really, sucks
[07:43] <darkpeter> yeah
[07:43] <darkpeter> but ...
[07:44] <Ribs> Gaim can log into MSN without problems
[07:44] <darkpeter> ubuntu only with gnome ??
[07:44] <Ribs> What?
[07:44] <darkpeter> ubuntu work only with gnome ??
[07:44] <tigger|nl> darkpeter: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and than you can just apt-get install amsn
[07:45] <darkpeter> ;)
[07:45] <darkpeter> thx
[07:45] <joshua__> darkpeter, ubuntu only directly supports gnome, but you can use KDE or anything else if you wish
[07:45] <darkpeter> caus ive got only a 400mhz ;)
[07:45] <anir> tigger|nl is amsn is better than gnome?
[07:46] <crimsun> amsn is not comparable with gnome
[07:46] <crimsun> the former is a MSN client, the latter, a desktop environment
[07:46] <djuuss> lol
[07:46] <djuuss> anir: but amsn is better then gaim if thats what you mean
[07:47] <djuuss> anir: imho
[07:47] <djuuss> (sorry to butt in)
[07:47] <tigger|nl> I think amsn is better than gaim to, I only use MSN (no icq/aim/etc.)
[07:48] <anir> some guys will mis-lead u..lol
[07:48] <anir> oh its gaim
[07:48] <tigger|nl> but if I would use icq/aim/etc. I would likely use gaim too, but for msn only I think amsn is better
[07:48] <djuuss> yup
[07:49] <tigger|nl> in gaim you can't see your current status (online/away/busy) for example
[07:49] <tigger|nl> at least, I couldn't see it ;)
[07:49] <djuuss> but to give credit where credit is due, msn > icq+aim
[07:49] <djuuss> m$ aint all bad ;)
[07:50] <tigger|nl> as longs as it runs on linux :P
[07:50] <djuuss> hmm you can make gaim to show your current stat
[07:50] <tsw> isnt irc enough?
[07:50] <anir> does amsn works with yahoo???
[07:50] <djuuss> no
[07:50] <tigger|nl> gaim is
[07:50] <djuuss> amsn works with msn
[07:50] <darkpeter> arf :(
[07:50] <djuuss> gaim *does*
[07:50] <darkpeter> can u send me your sources.list ??
[07:51] <darkpeter> plz
[07:51] <darkpeter> cause i erase it :(
[07:51] <darkpeter> from the apt folder
[07:51] <djuuss> depends on your geographic location if you should use mine
[07:51] <tigger|nl> i'll send
[07:51] <djuuss> i use ftp.nluug.nl
[07:51] <djuuss> solid 700KB/s
[07:52] <djuuss> and up
[07:52] <anir> or i can only use gaim
[07:52] <darkpeter> arf
[07:52] <djuuss> tsw: no irc isn't enough :)
[07:53] <darkpeter> resend plz
[07:53] <djuuss> is probarbly me
[07:53] <darkpeter> :(
[07:53] <djuuss> power failure-->modem haywired
[07:53] <tigger|nl> plz :$
[07:53] <darkpeter> he refuse
[07:53] <darkpeter> :D
[07:53] <djuuss> tsw: apt-get install amsn should work
[07:54] <djuuss> i'll copypast
[07:54] <darkpeter> anyone can send me the sources.list ??
[07:54] <djuuss> here's what should be in the default
[07:54] <darkpeter> it's don't work with tigger
[07:54] <tsw> depends imlib1 not going to be installed and so on with sox docker and tcltls
[07:55] <anir> crimsun what do i need to play music cd?
[07:55] <tsw> darkpeter: why do you need sources.list?
[07:55] <crimsun> headphones/speakers, a cdrom, a cd.
[07:55] <darkpeter> tsw: cause i erase mine :(
[07:55] <djuuss> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted
[07:55] <djuuss> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty universe
[07:56] <punkrockguy318> why is it required that java pkgs are built?  why can't a sun-j2re1.5 exist in multiverse?
[07:56] <anir> lol crimsun i have them all.. i was asking do i need anything else in linux?
[07:56] <crimsun> anir: you need precisely what I listed.
[07:56] <darkpeter> thx
[07:56] <njan> I thought that this was specific to one machine I have, but I've downloaded a hoary CD and tried it in another.. gnome-theme-manager eats 100% of processor on both machines I've tried it on..
[07:56] <djuuss> punkrockguy318: dpkg needs to know you *have* java so it can install packages with java deps
[07:57] <njan> in warty and in hoary..
[07:57] <tigger|nl> djuuss: what is the line for ftp.nluug.nl ?
[07:57] <punkrockguy318> djuuss, yeah, but why can't the java package be provided in multiverse?
[07:58] <djuuss> dunno i'm on my laptop now
[07:58] <njan> has anyone else had the same problem?
[07:58] <tsw> is there some instant messenger for linux that handles msn messenger webcam options?
[07:58] <dreamcatcher> anyone having troubles installing mono on powerpc?
[07:59] <djuuss> punkrockguy318: good point..
[08:00] <djuuss> tigger|nl: wasn't there something like apt-get netselect ?
[08:00] <djuuss> tigger|nl: should give you the fastest mirror
[08:00] <tigger|nl> i'll try, tnx
[08:00] <darkpeter> is ubuntu unstable ??
[08:00] <darkpeter> debian unstable ??
[08:00] <crimsun> ubuntu is a debian-based distro
[08:01] <crimsun> only hoary is similar to sid
[08:01] <darkpeter> yeah :)
[08:01] <darkpeter> but how to make in debian testing ?
[08:01] <crimsun> come again?
[08:02] <darkpeter> no
[08:02] <darkpeter> sry :p
[08:02] <darkpeter> it's alright
[08:02] <darkpeter> sry for my bad english i'm french :)
[08:03] <djuuss> ubuntu is debian unstable stable ;)
[08:04] <djuuss> tigger|nl: sorry.. apt-get install netselect
[08:04] <tigger|nl> djuuss: found it already :)
[08:05] <tigger|nl> very useful!
[08:05] <joshua__> anybody have any insight into why Americas Army would crash X?
[08:05] <djuuss> tigger|nl: what servers did you try?
[08:06] <tigger|nl> fastest are: ftp.cprm.net and ftp.tiscali.de
[08:06] <Hikaru79> I have a USB external hard drive that I'm copying about 4 GB worth of files to. Now, I know that USB isn't exactly lightning-quick, but atm it's saying that it will take over 2 hours to transfer the files. It went *MUCH* faster in Windows. Is there some USB driver or something that I have to get for performance?
[08:07] <tigger|nl> funny, 'cause I'm in NL ;)
[08:09] <djuuss> tigger|nl: i know the feeling.. i usually use ftp.uni-erlangen.de for apt on debian regular because its faster then ftp.nluug.nl which is in utrecht
[08:10] <D0wnXcaST> Anyone can tell me how i can create a DOS Boot disk in linux?
[08:10] <djuuss> but then again, i'm on an 8Mbit line, "fast" isn't a fixed value ;)
[08:11] <mjr> well, you pretty much need _some_ version of DOS to make a DOS boot disk, but you can do it in some system emulation software like bochs or dosemu, I suppose
[08:11] <tigger|nl> :), well, 300KB/sec on a 2,5 Mbit isn't bad either
[08:11] <tsw> I have 4Mbit line and Im gettin about 350KB/sec havent yet figured out whats wrong..
[08:12] <djuuss> tigger|nl: i'd rather walk to my data, thanks
[08:12] <tigger|nl> tsw: run 'apt-get install netselect-apt'  then! ;)
[08:12] <tigger|nl> and netselect-apt
[08:12] <tsw> tigger|nl: ?
[08:13] <djuuss> i get about 880 from fast servers
[08:13] <tigger|nl> than I seeks for the fastest mirror
[08:13] <tigger|nl> seeks=search :$
[08:13] <djuuss> but it touches 1.2 MB/s once in a while :P
[08:13] <mirak> hi
[08:14] <tsw> the speeds are tested from a good fast known server
[08:14] <tsw> its not apt-get related
[08:14] <djuuss> then it's connection related
[08:14] <tsw> yes I know
[08:14] <djuuss> mine is officially labeled as "2-8Mbit"
[08:14] <tsw> just havent found where the problem is
[08:15] <djuuss> but since the nearest hub is about 100m out, i get 8Mbit all the time
[08:15] <tsw> I had 2Mbit line, but now my isp has doubled all speeds so mine increased to 4Mbits..
[08:15] <djuuss> guess the problem isn't in settings, but in infrastructure then
[08:16] <tsw> it could be that the isp has some wierd settings on the network.. or just saturated
[08:18] <djuuss> call 'm up
[08:19] <djuuss> i say
[08:19] <tsw> maybe I should.. I was a reseller on summer :)
[08:19] <tsw> but then again I know how their system works, and calling doesnt help
[08:19] <djuuss> lol
[08:20] <djuuss> if the employees aren't supposed to know how it works, i guess it won't no :P
[08:20] <tsw> and its not like I dont have the time waiting for a extra minute or so
[08:21] <djuuss> 350 for a 4mbit isn't all bad
[08:21] <illek> Hi all.  Can anyone tell me how to eliminate sudo and just be able to login as root?
[08:21] <djuuss> yeah
[08:21] <djuuss> just sudo passwd
[08:21] <tsw> should be somewhere around 440-460 imho
[08:22] <illek> tks
[08:22] <djuuss> should be
[08:23] <tsw> netselect-apt thinks fastest mirror is ftp.at.debian.org
[08:23] <tsw> would think that the fastest mirror should be on the same country  :)
[08:24] <tigger|nl> at least something closer!
[08:24] <tigger|nl> finland ---> austria
[08:24] <tigger|nl> holland --> germany isn't so weird
[08:25] <tsw> maybe it doesnt test ftp.funet.fi
[08:25] <djuuss> yeah you can get good rates for holland-->germany
[08:25] <djuuss> in the 700's
[08:25] <tsw> my guess for the fastest in finland :)
[08:26] <tsw> speaking of IM:s trillian 3.0 has been released :)
[08:26] <djuuss> who?
[08:26] <tsw> oh its windows only..
[08:26] <djuuss> trillian = skypeish?
[08:27] <tigger|nl> trillian = gaim-like
[08:27] <mameluke> hehe, run and buy! -> http://www.linuxiso.org/ads/banners/5308_12pack.gif
[08:27] <tsw> trillian is Instant Messenger client capable of using msn icq aim yahoo..
[08:27] <djuuss> whadaa you mean "its windows only", stop wining! ;)
[08:29] <djuuss> so whats so good about trillian?
[08:29] <joshua__> does anybody have any experience with ubuntu and americas army
[08:29] <tsw> imho nothing just got the news from a bot that reads slashdot headlines :)
[08:29] <joshua__> djuuss, it does the same thing as gaim, cept worse
[08:30] <stuNNed_> whoa gxine has improved tremendously
[08:30] <joshua__> thats stunning
[08:30] <djuuss> joshua__:l0l (and about AA, it should just work, unless you don't have 3daccel )
[08:30] <djuuss> hehe
[08:30] <joshua__> djuuss, i do... glxgears runs at 2500+... when i try to run AA it crashes X
[08:31] <djuuss> :|
[08:31] <djuuss> tried other games?
[08:31] <joshua__> nope
[08:31] <djuuss> RTCW:ET, nwn?
[08:31] <NewComer> any fast ubuntu mirrors
[08:31] <NewComer> ?
[08:31] <NewComer> archive.ubuntu is slow
[08:31] <tigger|nl> lol
[08:32] <tigger|nl> apt-get mirror?
[08:32] <djuuss> NewComer: type this-> sudo apt-get install netselect
[08:32] <tigger|nl> ;)
[08:32] <NewComer> cool
[08:32] <joshua__> djuuss, nope, havent tried any
[08:33] <joshua__> djuuss, AA = already paid for
[08:33] <joshua__> ;-)
[08:33] <djuuss> joshua__: well i found that on ubuntu, when one game doesn't work, and another one doesn't either, there's something *wrong*
[08:33] <joshua__> djuuss, i think thats fairly universal
[08:34] <djuuss> so? universal doesn't mean false :P
[08:34] <joshua__> djuuss, usually when one doesn't work there is a problem
[08:34] <joshua__> ;-)
[08:34] <djuuss> what vidcard do you use?
[08:34] <tigger|nl> when all don't work, the problem isn't at AA probably
[08:34] <joshua__> 9700 pro
[08:34] <joshua__> see the thing is
[08:35] <mxpxpod> when upgrading to python2.4 in hoary, is anyone else having problems with the python2.4-pyorbit package?
[08:35] <joshua__> i had it working on warty
[08:35] <joshua__> then i upgraded to hoary
[08:35] <joshua__> then i installed another warty when i realized the drivers in hoary arnt acclerated for ati
[08:35] <max__> anyone able to get the nvidia drivers working with hoary and the 2.6.9 kernel?
[08:35] <NewComer> netselect will select the fastest mirror, but where are the mirrors?!!
[08:35] <joshua__> and now i cant get it working in warty
[08:35] <njs12345> hmm
[08:35] <djuuss> so you upgraded and downgraded
[08:35] <njs12345> has anyone followed the workaround.org email article?
[08:36] <djuuss> that does tend to break configs yeah
[08:36] <max__> when I startup X, the it won't go farther than the splash screen and the cursor is extremely slow
[08:36] <joshua__> djuuss: no, i have two versions on my comp
[08:36] <tigger|nl> NewComer: you wan't to download ubuntu-iso?
[08:36] <tigger|nl> wan't=want
[08:36] <djuuss> and does it work on the other version?
[08:36] <joshua__> djuuss, warty and hoary
[08:36] <joshua__> djuuss, well the hoary drivers are not accelerated, so it cant work at all
[08:36] <NewComer> tigger|nl, no, wanna upgrade to hoary
[08:37] <djuuss> and it works on warty?
[08:37] <NewComer> found the mirrors
[08:37] <NewComer> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive
[08:37] <joshua__> djuuss, no, thats what im trying to get working.... it worked on my original warty version
[08:37] <djuuss> suppose you'll  need to get drivers for ati again
[08:38] <joshua__> djuuss, like i said earlier, they are accelerated for ATI
[08:38] <joshua__> djuuss, glxgears runs at 2500+ fps
[08:38] <djuuss> odd
[08:38] <djuuss> try to wine(x) the windows version?
[08:39] <djuuss> or upgrade x
[08:39] <joshua__> djuuss, and i can't see the error thats causing it because it crashes x before i can run see it
[08:39] <djuuss> run it from the terminal, does it have a verbose mode?
[08:39] <joshua__> djuuss: dude, i do run it from the terminal... but i cannot see the output because X crashes
[08:40] <djuuss> check the syslog
[08:40] <joshua__> where is that
[08:40] <ferris> after I installed linux... my mouse is a square block.... I installed on a laptop (sony viao)
[08:40] <djuuss> applications-->system tools-->system log
[08:41] <ferris> is there a resolve for this?
[08:41] <dreamcatcher> anyone using mono packages from horary on powerpc?
[08:41] <joshua__> djuuss, all i see is (pam_unix_ session closed and then session opend for user joshua
[08:42] <djuuss> guess you could try to reinstall X..
[08:43] <joshua__> djuuss, what the hell is the point? it worked before, and i didn't do anything to this computer
[08:43] <joshua__> err
[08:43] <joshua__> to this install
[08:43] <joshua__> well this is interesting
[08:43] <joshua__> hehe
[08:43] <djuuss> download it again i say
[08:43] <joshua__> i just installed it again
[08:43] <joshua__> it works
[08:43] <joshua__> thanks for your help
[08:43] <djuuss> :D
[08:43] <djuuss> lol
[08:44] <joshua__> djuuss, question is i have two displays, would disabling acceleration on one display increase my FPS while playing on the other?
[08:44] <alfatau> hi, i mounted a win2000 (NTFS) share with "mount -t smbfs" but i can't create (from my machine) a file bigger than 2GB onto that share. So i tried to copy the file from the win2000 machine, sharing it with the newest samba and in that way i was able to copy the huge file. So, why can't i copy a file bigger than 2GB from my machine to a win2000 one but i can take successfully it from samba share of my machine using the win2000 one?
[08:45] <djuuss> depends on how much memory your card had
[08:45] <djuuss> has
[08:45] <joshua__> djuuss, well it cant hurt... how can i go about doing that
[08:45] <djuuss> dunno don't use multiple screens
[08:45] <djuuss> how many instances of X are running?
[08:46] <joshua__> djuuss, there has to be a way to use different drivers on different displays
[08:46] <joshua__> djuuss, i assume only one...
[08:46] <djuuss> but having *acceleration* on or off doesn't matter, as long as your using it on only one screen
[08:46] <njan> alfatau, that's probably because the filing system on the remote machine doesn't support files larger than 2gb :)
[08:46] <joshua__> djuuss, hmm, ok. whatever
[08:46] <joshua__> djuuss, thanks for your help
[08:47] <njan> alfatau, unfortunately, inferior operating systems to linux still use filing systems with stupidly small filesize limits ;)
[08:47] <Kyaneos> hi
[08:47] <joshua__> well djuuss... this is interesting
[08:48] <joshua__> djuuss, apparently AA doesn't like my CRT display... it doesn't crash from my LCD but it does from my CRT
[08:48] <njan> alfatau, actually, strike that.. re-read your post. That is odd.. it may be a problem with either samba or the windows implementation of smb.. I'd try searching msdn and seeing if anyone who develops / uses samba has any idea..
[08:48] <djuuss> theres definitly something wrong with your xconfig file then :) *especially* the device section of your crt
[08:48] <joshua__> djuuss, minor problem, but interesting none the less.... ill figure it out later
[08:48] <alfatau> njan: no, it isn't because i can get the large file through the samba server running on my linux box, using the win2000 machine
[08:49] <njan> alfatau, yeah, re-read your post .. *points above*
[08:49] <djuuss> whats the easiest way to get nvidia-glx?
[08:49] <djuuss> without having manually modprobe nvidia
[08:49] <djuuss> having *to*
[08:50] <NewComer> netselect says that artfiles.org is the fastest mirror near me, yet i get 6Kb/s only!
[08:51] <NewComer> any one near the mediterranean?
[08:52] <ferris> can someone tell me how to fix my mouse?... it is a square block, does not look lik an arrow, or anything just a distorted square.... I am using a laptop... with a touchpad
[08:52] <ferris> is there a script or something that I can use to focus it?
[08:53] <bur[n] er> what's the command to edit startup services???
[08:53] <bur[n] er> i was thinking debconf, but i forget now
[08:54] <bur[n] er> rcconf... found it :)
[08:54] <djuuss> get a list of mirrors near you
[08:55] <djuuss> mediterranean? where?
[08:55] <NewComer> anywhere, germany and france mirrors are fast to me
[08:57] <NewComer> but not ubuntu mirrors
[08:57] <djuuss> then just use the ubuntu mirrors for main
[08:58] <djuuss> and a debian mirror for universe
[08:58] <mirak> hi
[08:59] <mirak> why isn't the frame buffer enabled in the kernel ?
[08:59] <sladen> mirak: should be
[09:00] <mirak> I should have /dev/fb0 device then, no ?
[09:00] <mirak> sladen: is that a kernel boot option ?
[09:01] <sladen> mirak: have you loaded the modules?
[09:01] <mirak> no
[09:01] <mirak> fbdev ?
[09:02] <sladen> mirak: sudo modprobe vesafb
[09:03] <mirak> sladen: it's loaded
[09:03] <mirak> now
[09:03] <mirak> sladen: what must I do to enable it ?
[09:05] <IRCMonkey99999> whois
[09:07] <snowball> I tried upgrading from a basic debian install over the network as shown here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WartyUpgradeNotes.  I can't get X to start and get errors like "no symbols found"  Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:13] <sjoerd> pitti: home again ?
[09:13] <pitti> hi sjoerd
[09:13] <pitti> sjoerd: yes, returned about an hour ago
[09:13] <sjoerd> good flight ?
[09:14] <pitti> sjoerd: had some delay, but otherwise fine
[09:14] <pitti> sjoerd: nice to see my gf again :-)
[09:14] <pitti> sjoerd: and nice to be home
[09:15] <pitti> sjoerd: although it's darn cold
[09:15] <sjoerd> hehe
[09:15] <sjoerd> it's freezing there
[09:15] <sjoerd> ?
[09:15] <pitti> sjoerd: it's snowing
[09:16] <benkong2> greetings all I am about to install ubuntu soon as my dl finishes and I burn a cd any thoughts? I looked at the starter guide but did not see install docs.
[09:16] <sjoerd> pitti: then it feels more like almost christmas
[09:16] <phin> benkong2: hopefully you enjoy it on a workstation as much as i do :)
[09:16] <pitti> sjoerd: true
[09:16] <pitti> sjoerd: walking over an xmas market in a T-Shirt is sooo wrong
[09:16] <phin> nothing but good things to say.. thou i wish they had a hostap kernel :(
[09:16] <Rene_S> bah humbug, Christmas should be cancelled and every made to work twice as long.
[09:17] <sjoerd> pitti: haha
[09:17] <benkong2> phin: I hope so I am currently using gentoo on an amd64
[09:17] <D0wnXcaST> Anyone can tell me how i can create a DOS Boot disk in linux?
[09:17] <benkong2> phin: what is a hostap kernel
[09:17] <Slackman> mkfatfs?
[09:17] <sjoerd> pitti: it was around 0 when i came back home.. Was a very odd feeling
[09:18] <Rene_S> 0 try -205
[09:18] <pitti> night, guys
[09:18] <benkong2> pitti: night
[09:18] <sjoerd> pitti: night
[09:18] <miggumike> hey, i installed kde 3.3 on my ubuntu and my xmms doesn't work in it.  xmms opens and i load a song but when i click play it freezes and no song plays...
[09:19] <Slackman> question, does warty ever change aside from security updates etc..i.e is xorg ever likely to make it into warty or do we need to wait for hoary to be released?
[09:19] <Riddell> miggumike: try killall artsd
[09:19] <Riddell> Slackman: warty doesn't change
[09:19] <benkong2> are there specific install docs for ubuntu located anywhere? Is the CD a live CD?
[09:20] <snowball> aargh.  I hate having no working CD-ROM.
[09:20] <Riddell> benkong2: it uses debian-installer, there is a separate live CD (based on Morphix)
[09:20] <Slackman> Riddell ah k...is there a roadmap to see when hoary will be released or is it just when ever its ready?
[09:20] <benkong2> I just read an article that Hoary is out
[09:20] <miggumike> riddell: nothing still
[09:20] <Riddell> Slackman: releases are every 6 months, roadmap will be somewhere in the wiki
[09:20] <Riddell> miggumike: use juK?
[09:20] <benkong2> Is this wrong? http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9098
[09:21] <benkong2> I am dl the amd-64 install cd now is that a boot CD?
[09:21] <Riddell> benkong2: is what wrong?
[09:21] <miggumike> riddell: i'll install and try =)
[09:21] <benkong2> Riddell: the article that says hoary is released
[09:22] <Riddell> benkong2: install CD is an install CD, it will be bootable into debian-installer
[09:22] <benkong2> Riddell: thanks
[09:22] <Riddell> benkong2: hoary is in development, you can get it by changing your apt sources from warty to hoary, it's not releases
[09:22] <Riddell> released
[09:22] <gpled> are their docs that talk about recovering from an install fail?
[09:23] <newtoubuntu> hey, does anyone know how I can get at the files in my windows partition?
[09:23] <benkong2> Riddell: Ok thanks
[09:23] <miggumike> =)
[09:23] <miggumike> riddell: thanks this works just fine
[09:24] <newtoubuntu> or better yet, how to get netzero to work with ubuntu. they have a .deb file, but I cant get to it since its dled in my windows partition
[09:24] <lwillis> Is anyone using subversion from hoary at the moment - it seems to be borked?
[09:24] <lwillis> Keeps just reporting "Can't find a temporary directory" ..
[09:26] <imka> any developers here?
[09:26] <snowball> miggummike: You might be able to mount it with the mount command.
[09:26] <imka> i want to help with translation, but i get no response on the mailing list
[09:26] <snowball> miggummike: your windows partition that is.
[09:30] <XhyldazhK> hi all
[09:31] <XhyldazhK> how do I download and install from sources?
[09:31] <gpled> sudo apt-get install   getting command not found
[09:34] <KAOS> Good Afternoon....
[09:35] <tsw> you meen good evening ;)
[09:35] <tsw> or good night
[09:35] <KAOS> just a note for anyone taking notes on PPC G4 Ubuntu install.... : It doesnt like the Adaptec SCSI cards that come standard w. some Macs...
[09:36] <KAOS> but good evenin tsw
[09:36] <XhyldazhK> ubuntu's indent is broken!!!
[09:36] <tsw> KAOS: good afternoon for you :)
[09:36] <KAOS> ty tsw.
[09:37] <KAOS> XhyldazhK...no clue on that as my ubuntu install is still configuring/downloadin packages :S
[09:38] <NewComer> dd
[09:38] <XhyldazhK> I configured it from sources and it's still broken!
[09:40] <lukins> how do i start firefox automatically to start at bootup?
[09:43] <neighborlee> lukins, not positive as I dont do it but I believe in : /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[09:44] <lukins> i did it once but can't remember, it was in gnome somewhere not in a script...
[09:45] <neighborlee> lukins, easier in : computer > desktop prefs > sessions > startup programs: add
[09:45] <neighborlee> heh yes
[09:45] <gpled> what package do i need to install to get xwindow working?
[09:45] <gpled> install failed
[09:46] <gpled> was something like apt-get install x-window-base
[09:46] <Rene_S> ? now how in the world does that happen ?
[09:46] <neighborlee> gpled: I had that too once and I forget why it does it but ..try: apt-get install gnome
[09:46] <Rene_S> apt-get install x-window-system
[09:46] <EfaistOs> does someone know why gnome-sound-recorder doesnt work ?
[09:46] <lukins> neighborlee, thats it exactly, thanks!
[09:46] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, I never use it finding it a bit wonkie
[09:47] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, i'd use : audacity
[09:47] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, much better and far superior audio app if not overkill for just sound bite recording <G>
[09:47] <neighborlee> lukins, np
[09:48] <KAOS> is Openbox available for Ubuntu? outta curiousity
[09:50] <magnon> KAOS: mad man :P
[09:50] <magnon> but it's in universe
[09:50] <magnon> in hoary, at least
[09:52] <lukins> random question: what is multiverse?
[09:54] <xhyldazhk_> hey
[09:54] <xhyldazhk_> indent is broken in my system
[09:54] <xhyldazhk_> is the same for all you?
[09:54] <gpled> striking out.  trying sudo apt-get update, then upgrade
[09:55] <magnon> lukins: some stuff that isn't possible to include in multiverse because of licensing issues, so it can't be supported the same way - but software that is still useful to users like mp3 things
[09:55] <gpled> ubuntu failed to get xwindow instaled
[09:55] <lukins> magnon, thanks
[09:55] <KAOS> ok...so package is avail...cool...
[09:56] <lukins> gpled, have you tried the gnoppix livecd, did x come up for you with that?
[09:56] <magnon> KAOS: you can search for packages in synaptic or using the command apt-cache search <package>
[09:56] <KAOS> yeah...im still in the Install/config processes tho...
[09:56] <magnon> aha
[09:56] <KAOS> just getin ready for what i can install later ;)
[09:57] <xhyldazhk_> where can i get a working 'indent' for my system???
[09:57] <titanium> i just burned warty live to a cd and tried to boot from it. the first time i booted from it, after the progress bar was full, my computer restarted. the second time at the bootloader i chose 'load media into memory', and after a few minutes of cd accessing, i was dumped to a kernel panic screen. any ideas?
[09:57] <magnon> you should give the gnome configuration in ubuntu a shot though, in my opinion that's what makes ubuntu greater.
[09:57] <gpled> lukins: i has ubuntu working.  just mozilla could not see webpages on the internet.  could see local.  so i reinstalled
[09:57] <magnon> in addition to a bunch of other stuff of course
[09:57] <gpled> last time i had to manual apt-get x window
[09:58] <xhyldazhk_> where can I get a working indent?
[09:58] <KAOS> magnon...i'll give it a shot...since i have to ;).....but yeah...i'll see whats up w. it...
[09:58] <gpled> has anyone done an install with in the past 24 hours?
[09:58] <magnon> I think you might be surprised.
[09:58] <KAOS> the last gnome version i used i didnt like at all....tho after usin OSX , gnome will probly feel really close
[09:58] <magnon> KAOS: when was that?
[09:58] <KAOS> gpled, im installing Right now, on a PPC box
[09:58] <gpled> i wonder if something is up with the source packages.  never had this much trouble before
[09:59] <gpled> KAOS: let me know how it goes
[09:59] <KAOS> magnon. was on Slack 9.0, bout a year n a half ago
[09:59] <gpled> KAOS: where did you get the PPC box from?
[09:59] <magnon> just curious, knowing a lot of people who have excused themselves for their gnome criticism after trying out Warty
[09:59] <gpled> old apple?
[09:59] <KAOS> gpled...you gettin the package update?
[10:00] <KAOS> gpled: im dualbootin OSX and Ubuntu on a Dual 533cpu G4
[10:00] <gpled> KAOS: yep, packages are updating
[10:00] <neighborlee> gpled, i'd have thought that was fixed by now but it happened to be first time I installed...it happened I believe when I told it to get updates instead of doing it once I had desktop running....
[10:00] <xhyldazhk_> hey where can I get a working ubuntu indent?
[10:00] <titanium> so does anyone know anything about booting from ubuntu with the livecd
[10:01] <EfaistOs> neighborlee, i cant record things even with audacity ...
[10:01] <gpled> neighborlee: you talking about the browser not working?
[10:01] <neighborlee> gpled, nope I wasn't
[10:01] <KAOS> titanium: only thing i know is that liveCD is for x86 machines....make sure your CD drive is set to boot before HDD in Bios
[10:02] <neighborlee> gpled, that just sounds like you weren't actually connected to net
[10:02] <KAOS> gpled: install went great....i just got ubuntu main screen
[10:02] <KAOS> logged in
[10:02] <gpled> neighborlee: i could use xchat :)
[10:02] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, are you sure MIC is plugged in properly and set to 'record' in mixer ?
[10:02] <KAOS> so im gonna hop outta my ircbot...and onto ubuntu...cya in a while
[10:02] <gpled> do you think i should not do the update during install?
[10:03] <ztonzy> hi :)
[10:03] <neighborlee> gpled, then you might have tried: rm ~/.mozilla first or removed it and  installed via synaptic
[10:03] <gpled> just leave it, and reboot, then use synaptic in x?
[10:03] <neighborlee> gpled, i'm pretty sure thats how I got in trouble but as I say i'd have thought they'd fixed that
[10:03] <ztonzy> anyone know to see me as user getting the USB rights for my system ?
[10:04] <neighborlee> gpled, thats what i'd do yes
[10:04] <neighborlee> ztonzy, I didn't really...anyway usb just should work
[10:04] <neighborlee> ztonzy, whats not working for you
[10:04] <nictuku> i dint either hehe
[10:04] <gpled> neighborlee: iv done two installs with out a hitch. first time i try and put it on windows users machine, a heck breaks loose :)
 titanium: only thing i know is that liveCD is for x86 machines....make sure your CD drive is set to boot before HDD in Bios      ubuntu begins to load but does not load successfully (my machine reboots when the progress bar fills, or i am dumped to a kernal panic screen).
[10:04] <neighborlee> gpled, haha
[10:05] <ztonzy> neighborlee, I just got the lastest gphoto2 things and I cant connect if I am not 'root'  so I want the USB to let me as user to have the rights
[10:05] <neighborlee> gpled, and linux knew that! <G>
[10:05] <neighborlee> heh
[10:05] <neighborlee> ztonzy, oh ic
[10:05] <ztonzy> neighborlee, and funny is...now finally my Kodak EZ200 works !!!
[10:05] <sjoerd> ztonzy: are you in group plugdev ?
[10:06] <ztonzy> sjoerd, hmm lemme see
[10:06] <gpled> whats up with now being able to power off at shutdown?
[10:06] <gpled> how do you fix that?
[10:06] <neighborlee> ztonzy,well I guess you would change your permissions on the device itself at: /dev/blah
[10:06] <grit_> hello
[10:06] <neighborlee> ztonzy,kewl
[10:06] <neighborlee> grit_, hi
[10:06] <ztonzy> sjoerd, yes...
[10:06] <ztonzy> correct
[10:06] <nictuku> shouldn't that be changed in /etc/fstab?
[10:07] <Hikaru79> I can't seem to eject my cd-rom... it insists that it's busy, but it's NOT
[10:07] <Hikaru79> o_o Any ideas?
[10:07] <ztonzy> neighborlee, sure if I am only could find it *grin*
[10:07] <grit_> hey does anybody know the command to change a few things in ubuntu
[10:07] <grit_> it was in the installation
[10:07] <grit_> but i forgot it
[10:07] <Hikaru79> grit_, what things?
[10:07] <sjoerd> ztonzy: is the usb endpoint chownt to group plugdev ?
[10:07] <grit_> like what resolutions you want to use
[10:07] <Hikaru79> Oh
[10:07] <ztonzy> sjoerd, hmmm....  endpoint ?
[10:07] <Hikaru79> I think it's something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[10:07] <magnon> Hikaru79: HAL seems to steal your cdrom now and then
[10:08] <magnon> Hikaru79: use Nautilus to eject it
[10:08] <Hikaru79> I tried, magnon
[10:08] <Hikaru79> But it says that it's busy
[10:08] <Hikaru79> I've tried CLI and Nautilus
[10:08] <neighborlee> grit_, if you just  mean resolution thats done right from desktop menu
[10:08] <Hikaru79> And manually pressing the button, of course
[10:08] <EfaistOs> does someone know if a quickcam webcam is detected by default in ubuntu ?
[10:08] <grit_> yes
[10:08] <ztonzy> sjoerd, sorry bit of intermediate linuxuser :P
[10:08] <grit_> but i want 1280x1024
[10:08] <grit_> and it isnt in there
[10:08] <sjoerd> ztonzy: /prob/bus/usb/blabla there are nodes added if you plug in your camera
[10:08] <sjoerd> ztonzy: they should be chowned to group plugdev
[10:08] <magnon> Hikaru79: hm, what does lsof tell you?
[10:08] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, would depend which one it was
[10:09] <Hikaru79> Just 'lsof'?
[10:09] <Hikaru79> Or are there any args I have to use?
[10:09] <ztonzy> sjoerd, oki!
[10:09] <neighborlee> lsof ?..gez talk about your tons of output !LOL
[10:09] <ztonzy> sjoerd, you mean /proc ?
[10:09] <grit_> ok that wasnt it guys
[10:09] <sjoerd> ztonzy: uhm, yes
[10:09] <grit_> brb
[10:09] <ztonzy> =)
[10:09] <EfaistOs> neighborlee, quickcam communicate ... lsusb detects it ... but i dunno what are the others modules to load ... with xawtv and gnomemeeting it's not working/detecting
[10:10] <EfaistOs> if someone have a good documentation about it ...
[10:10] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, well make sure one that is known to work in linux first
[10:10] <eric> hello again
[10:11] <ulisse> Hi channel!
[10:11] <paulproteus> Hi ulisse!
[10:11] <ulisse> Someone here is using Hoary?
[10:11] <Hikaru79> I am, ulisse :)
[10:11] <ulisse> Do you know a way to edit the gnome menus?
[10:12] <Hikaru79> =/ Nope... try asking in the forum
[10:12] <ztonzy> sjoerd, I tried ' sudo chown plugdev -R * '  ---  which gave me an error as it is no user
[10:12] <ztonzy> sjoerd, in the dir:  /proc/bus/usb
[10:12] <grit_> does anybody remember the menu in the installation that asks you for some resolutions you want to use?
[10:12] <EfaistOs> neighborlee, where ?
[10:12] <sjoerd> ztonzy: uhm, no please check what the permissions of the new items are
[10:12] <sjoerd> ztonzy: then we can find out what is going wrong (it should just work)
[10:12] <ulisse> In warty I used to do it by rightclicking on them, but in hoary it semms to be disabled
[10:12] <ztonzy> sjoerd, they are just numbers  00*
[10:13] <ztonzy> 00#  I mean
[10:13] <sjoerd> ztonzy: ls -l
[10:13] <sjoerd> ztonzy: it will show you usernames
[10:13] <ztonzy> well
[10:13] <ztonzy> here it just shows 001 ->
[10:13] <ztonzy> dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 2004-12-17 11:00 001
[10:13] <ztonzy> dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 2004-12-17 11:00 002
[10:13] <ztonzy> dr-xr-xr-x    2 root     root            0 2004-12-17 11:00 003
[10:13] <ztonzy> -r--r--r--    1 root     root            0 2004-12-18 21:48 devices
[10:14] <grit_> how do i change the resolution menu, i want it to have 1280x1024 too
[10:14] <ztonzy> sorry for pasting !
[10:14] <Qerub> Hello. I'm having some problems with getting fglrx working in Ubuntu (Warty). Everything is installed fine, but the computer locks up when running 3D intensive stuff like Tux Racer. (glxgears works.) Any ideas?
[10:14] <sjoerd> ztonzy: and inside the directories
[10:14] <ztonzy> same there I guess
[10:15] <ulisse> grit_, I think you have to edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[10:15] <grit_> i dont have Xorg.conf
[10:15] <ztonzy> sjoerd, yes...root for all
[10:15] <Hikaru79> Gaah... I still can't eject the stupid CD-ROM >____<
[10:15] <Rene_S> Hammer
[10:15] <ulisse> grit_, so edit XF86.conf
[10:15] <Rene_S> and a crowbar
[10:15] <grit_> yes i did that but it doesnt work
[10:16] <paulproteus> grit_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 may do it.
[10:16] <grit_> no
[10:16] <ulisse> grit_, I think paulproteus is right...
[10:17] <ulisse> grit_, how did you edit your XF86 file?
[10:17] <grit_> i added the resolution to the list
[10:17] <ulisse> But in what depth?
[10:17] <grit_> all of them
[10:17] <sjoerd> ztonzy: can you check in the device manager if 'Device Type' of your camera is indeed camera
[10:17] <DeviantDog> howdy
[10:17] <neighborlee> EfaistOs, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ < try here
[10:17] <gpled> poor guy, trying to talk a windows guy through an install, over the phone.  talking over the phone. he has dsl.
[10:17] <ian__> so I did an upgrade with a debian repository in the list, and it screwed some things up.  after some more apt-get magic it's mostly working again but I can't add a clock to the panel and a bunch of icons are missing.  any hints on how to figure out what I need to get/replace?
[10:18] <ulisse> grit_, did you restarted the X server?
[10:18] <grit_> yes
[10:18] <mirak> hi
[10:18] <grit_> 5 times
[10:18] <mirak> how do I enable the frame buffer ?
[10:18] <ztonzy> sjoerd, what to look for ?
[10:18] <titanium> i still am not having any luck getting ubuntu (warty) livecd to work. each time i try to boot from it, my computer restarts after the progress bar has filled on the loading screen
[10:18] <ulisse> grit_, after restart, you have to change the resolution by the settings panel
[10:18] <grit_> probably yes
[10:18] <gpled> titanium: does knoppex work?
[10:18] <grit_> but its hard if its not in there
[10:19] <sjoerd> ztonzy: your camera device and then in the advanced tab info.category
[10:19] <grit_> just the 3 default ones
[10:19] <ulisse> grit_, you mean that the resolution setting isn't in the menu?
[10:19] <grit_> indeed
[10:19] <titanium> i am downloading both knoppix and gnoppix right now to find out, gpled
[10:19] <ztonzy> sjoerd, under my camera in main tree it has two other "USB Interface"  looking in main or those two ?
[10:19] <titanium> i'm bored and hungover so i want to try playing around with these
[10:20] <ztonzy> sjoerd, meaning ...two undermenus
[10:20] <tsw> how can I disable sleep on lid close with apm
[10:20] <ztonzy> sjoerd, sorry...submenus
[10:20] <tsw> this thinkpad doesnt like it and wont come back up after sleep
[10:20] <sjoerd> ztonzy: in the main iirc, but also check the children
[10:20] <ulisse> grit_, I dunno... for me it worked.
[10:21] <grit_>         SubSection "Display"
[10:21] <grit_>                 Depth           24
[10:21] <grit_>                 Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:21] <grit_> this is how it looks
[10:21] <grit_> for every depth
[10:21] <ztonzy> sjoerd, main:   info.bus:  'usb_device'      info.category:   'multimedia'
[10:21] <gpled> titanium: it has been my experiance, that if a computer can run linux, knoppix will work.
[10:22] <ztonzy> sjoerd, in 'multimedia.device'   it shows:   /dev/video0
[10:22] <SilvereX> anyone experienced gnome cpufreq applet showing absolute nonsense every second?
[10:22] <grit_> mine says 6 ghz all the time
[10:23] <sjoerd> ztonzy: that's a webcam ?
[10:23] <titanium> amd xp 2200+, nforce2 motherboard, 512mb ram, if that means anything?
[10:23] <ian__> does apt-get keep a log?
[10:23] <ztonzy> sjoerd, well this can be used bothwaus
[10:23] <ztonzy> ways*
[10:23] <sjoerd> ztonzy: ah, interesting
[10:23] <SilvereX> grit_, mine also shows negative values etc. does this mean cpufreq isn't working?
[10:23] <mak> I'm very new to debian. what does one doe after a '.deb' file has been obtained?
[10:24] <ztonzy> sjoerd, yepp :D
[10:24] <sjoerd> ztonzy: at the same time too ?
[10:24] <ztonzy> sjoerd, one of the best webcams I have come across in imagequality, but crap using it as digicam
[10:24] <nictuku> mak, dpkg -i <file.deb>
[10:24] <sjoerd> haha
[10:24] <ztonzy> sjoerd, same time ?
[10:24] <mak> thanks nictuku
[10:25] <sjoerd> ztonzy: you can use it as a webcam and as a ptp camera at the same time ?
[10:25] <ztonzy> sjoerd, most ones who has used this as webcam or watching me...has always said I have great livevideo...but that is in windows :-\
[10:25] <ztonzy> sjoerd, now with new gphoto2 I can...in windows as way before
[10:25] <ztonzy> yepp
[10:26] <Hikaru79> x_x I still... can't... eject the CD-ROM. Does anyone have any ideas?
[10:26] <ztonzy> sjoerd, but I wouldnt recommend getting it...hard to get to work...in linux
[10:26] <ztonzy> sjoerd, and also...it is no longer selling I guess
[10:27] <ztonzy> sjoerd, cant I chown me as user to those usb-devices ?
[10:27] <ztonzy> in /proc/bus/usb  ?
[10:27] <paulproteus> Hikaru79: What is your CD's mountpoint?
[10:27] <sjoerd> you can, but that won't help you much
[10:27] <ztonzy> grrr
[10:28] <ztonzy> this shouldnt be
[10:28] <sjoerd> ztonzy: what are the values of usb_device.product_id and usb_device.vendor_id
[10:28] <Hikaru79> paulproteus, cdrom0
[10:28] <ferris> where can i go to learn how to install files from tarballs, and compiling?
[10:29] <crimsun> ferris: tldp.org
[10:29] <ferris> i do not know anything in linux
[10:29] <ferris> thank
[10:29] <ferris> you
[10:29] <ian__> anyone know what package the various icons on the Computer menu are in? (home/desktop/disks/etc.)
[10:29] <XhyldazhK> why indent thinks a carriage return is a tab?????????????????????
[10:29] <crimsun> ferris: you might also try #linpeople and #linuxhelp
[10:30] <ferris> thanks crimsun
[10:31] <ztonzy> sjoerd, usb_device.product_id:   int   768 (0x300)                       usb_device.vendor_id:   int   1034 (0x40a)
[10:33] <gpled> if i say no, to do i want to instal from the internet, do i still get an xwindow system?
[10:33] <paulproteus> gpled: Yes.
[10:33] <gpled> cool
[10:33] <gpled> hope this works
[10:33] <paulproteus> Slightly-stale versions of all the packages are on your CDs.
[10:33] <Simira> groar
[10:34] <paulproteus> All the packages necessary for a default install, anyway.
[10:34] <gpled> every time i say yes, i can not get x to work.
[10:34] <Simira> why does my x.org fail to start so often in hoary?
[10:34] <ian__> is there an Ubuntu Art package?
[10:34] <ztonzy> sjoerd, does it give you any clue ?
[10:34] <XhyldazhK> PLEASE, any of you have it's 'indent' program working correctly???
[10:35] <Simira> ian__: have a look on the wiki
[10:35] <daniels> XhyldazhK: it works for me
[10:35] <daniels> Simira: how does it fail?
[10:35] <sjoerd> ztonzy: try this: edit libgphoto2.usermap, copy the second line (one prefixed with libgphoto2), and replace the seconde number with that 0x40a and the fourth with 0x300
[10:35] <sjoerd> ztonzy: /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.usermap
[10:35] <XhyldazhK> daniels: sure? which version do you have?
[10:36] <ian__> Simira, ok.  I did an upgrade with a debian source and now the splashscreen says debian and some icons are broken! :)
[10:36] <paulproteus> man indent may be instructive, xhyldazhk.
[10:36] <XhyldazhK> paulproteus, is not that!
[10:36] <gsuveg> what the wifi applet name what in ubutu is ?
[10:36] <XhyldazhK> paulproteus, indent by default uss the -gnu preset
[10:36] <Simira> daniels: mostly the menus and icons on the taskbar doesn't show. Sometimes, the screen just goes empty(with the Ubuntu default login background) after I write my password.
[10:37] <XhyldazhK> but when i try on a C file, simply destroys all indentation
[10:37] <Simira> daniels: this happens when I log in on X
[10:37] <daniels> Simira: weird
[10:37] <XhyldazhK> can be that because my encoding is iso 8859 -1 instead of unciode?
[10:37] <daniels> Simira: that sounds kind of like a gdm/gnome bug
[10:37] <daniels> XhyldazhK: ii  indent                     2.2.9-5                    C language source code formatting program
[10:38] <daniels> XhyldazhK: i'm using en_AU.UTF-8
[10:38] <ztonzy> sjoerd, you mean where it says Kodak EZ200...cause the first lines are for Agfa's ;)
[10:38] <Simira> daniels: yes. I even got the same trying to login on failsafe or any other session type (choosing from the login screen)
[10:38] <XhyldazhK> daniels, is that your LANG variable?
[10:38] <daniels> Simira: weird
[10:38] <daniels> XhyldazhK: yes
[10:38] <ztonzy> XhyldazhK, hey...arent you a Blender user ;) ?
[10:38] <XhyldazhK> yes ztonzy
[10:38] <paulproteus> daniels: I had this problem with crazy GNOME-runs-screaming dotfiles in $HOME.
[10:38] <sjoerd> ztonzy: doesn't matter
[10:39] <ztonzy> XhyldazhK,  nice to see you here too
[10:39] <ztonzy> sjoerd, uh ?
[10:39] <Simira> daniels: I know. Do you have any constructive suggestions for it? ;)
[10:39] <daniels> paulproteus: weird
[10:39] <XhyldazhK> i was doing a GLUT example and I thought was a good idea indenting it in K&R style, but indent made it all unindented
[10:39] <daniels> Simira: not really, sorry
[10:39] <daniels> Simira: my brain is pretty fried at the moment anyway
[10:39] <paulproteus> GNOME is very bad at handling its own dot-files.
[10:39] <paulproteus> Simira: Is $HOME fresh?
[10:39] <daniels> Simira: so anything I say should be regarded
[10:39] <paulproteus> s/own dot/old dot/
[10:39] <Simira> daniels: ok. Is seb the right person to bug about it?
[10:39] <daniels> Simira: probably, yeah
[10:40] <Simira> paulproteus: what do you mean fresh? It shouldn't be any problems there, no
[10:40] <XhyldazhK> daniels, where do you set up the default encoding?
[10:40] <daniels> Simira: but AIUI most people are not going to be around at all this weekend, and are then taking 23rd->2nd (or 23rd->3rd) off
[10:40] <daniels> XhyldazhK: i can't remember; i set it in my slightly insane .zshrc
[10:40] <Simira> daniels: all weared out from Mataro, eh?
[10:40] <ztonzy> sjoerd, hmm,  my Kodak EZ200 isn't in that list
[10:41] <sjoerd> ztonzy: that's why you should try adding it ;)
[10:41] <sjoerd> ztonzy: and if that helps file a bug to have it added :)
[10:41] <daniels> Simira: yeah
[10:41] <ztonzy> sjoerd, hmm ...I dont know how to file and where that bug and if it is
[10:41] <Simira> daniels: well, guess I'll have to bug my personal support about it then ;p
[10:42] <daniels> Simira: good plan :)
[10:42] <sjoerd> ztonzy: in bugzilla against gphoto2 (or libgphoto2)
[10:43] <XhyldazhK> daniels, it can have to do with the fact that I've installed some hoary packages in my warty installation?
[10:43] <XhyldazhK> ztonzy, are you a ubuntu user?
[10:44] <Hikaru79> OK... this is starting to get REALLY worrying.  X-x
[10:44] <gsuveg> Hikaru79: its mounted
[10:44] <gsuveg> umount it and eject
[10:45] <Hikaru79> It's not mounted.
[10:45] <Hikaru79> In fact, I can't mount it
[10:45] <gsuveg> mount ?
[10:45] <Hikaru79> I get the following error:
[10:45] <Hikaru79> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
[10:45] <Hikaru79>        missing codepage, or too many mounted file systems
[10:46] <ztonzy> XhyldazhK, yes I am ....Fedora--> debian--> ubuntu
[10:46] <ztonzy> sjoerd, ....I dont follow you about the numbers
[10:47] <ztonzy> sjoerd, possible to take this in PM ?
[10:47] <mroth> has anyone noticed the current repositories want to install python2.4, but ubuntu-desktop still has a dependency on <2.4 ?
[10:47] <ztonzy> sjoerd, maybe I can paste those lines there instead
[10:48] <gpled> ok, x faild to install.  anyone know that apt-get to get it working?
[10:48] <XhyldazhK> ztonzy, have you had any problems with Ubuntu?
[10:49] <sjoerd> ztonzy: those lines all have a lot of numbers on them.. Leave the first one in place (0x0003), replace the second one with 0x40a and the third one with 0x300
[10:49] <ztonzy> XhyldazhK, some...but that's not directly related to Ubuntu itself I thinl
[10:49] <ztonzy> think*
[10:50] <ztonzy> sjoerd,  0x300   and not 0x0300  ?
[10:50] <sjoerd> ztonzy: shouldn't matter
[10:51] <sjoerd> ztonzy: you can try 0x0300 just to be sure
[10:51] <ztonzy> sjoerd, looks like this now...a  new line for my cam:
[10:51] <ztonzy> # Kodak EZ200
[10:51] <ztonzy> libgphoto2           0x0003      0x040a   0x0300    0x0000       0x0000      0x00         0x00            0x00            0x00            0x00               0x00               0x00000000
[10:51] <sjoerd> replug you camera and hope :)
[10:51] <ztonzy> sjoerd, heh
[10:52] <ztonzy> sjoerd, wee
[10:52] <murf> hello, why default desktop manager is gentoo?
[10:52] <ztonzy> sjoerd, got a dialouge popup !
[10:52] <murf> gentoo -> gnome ;-)
[10:52] <Botox> hi, ubuntu is giving me a headache here :/ is there any way to force the installer to delete an existing linux installation and allow the user to partion the disk ? (info: i currently have fedora and xp installed and would like to replace fedora with ubuntu, xp should remain intact)
[10:52] <ztonzy> sjoerd, damn...still that red cross
[10:53] <paulproteus> Botox: Custom partitioning.
[10:53] <ztonzy> sjoerd, hmm...gtkam doesnt show thumbnail images ....just lines with names
[10:53] <paulproteus> Then you can delete the existing Linux setup.
[10:53] <mirak> how to enable the frame buffer ?
[10:54] <sjoerd> ztonzy: gotta go, please file a bug in the bugzilla (other people can probably help you with that)
[10:54] <jasund> Hello!  I can see and run xsane from sudo, but not from regular user.  Is there a symbolic link I need to employ?
[10:54] <ztonzy> sjoerd, hmmm  dont know how...but will think of it
[10:55] <ztonzy> sjoerd, but now I didnt get any error messege
[10:55] <ztonzy> :)
[10:55] <sjoerd> ztonzy: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ :)
[10:55] <XhyldazhK> ztonzy, does your indent work?
[10:55] <ztonzy> indent ?
[10:55] <ztonzy> sjoerd, :)
[10:56] <XhyldazhK> indent, the program that autoindents C/C++ code
[10:56] <devil> x
[10:57] <ztonzy> XhyldazhK, sorry I dont know much about that
[10:57] <XhyldazhK> :(
[10:59] <Botox> paulproteus: i alreaday did that, it simply does not work, the installer also says that it will not allow you to install ubuntu over an existing linux installation i had the same problem with debian sarge :(
[10:59] <XhyldazhK> my 'indent' inserts lots of useless 0x20 characters on my source files!
[11:00] <XhyldazhK> I'm not a newbie, I've used Linux since redhat 5.2, and i have no idea of what's happening, ANd yes, I've read all man page
[11:00] <paulproteus> Botox: If you delete the partition first, you'll be fine.
[11:00] <paulproteus> But you must delete the partition, and then recreate it.
[11:01] <paulproteus> Then it'll allow you to blank it.
[11:01] <FX|Laptop> Hello
[11:02] <FX|Laptop> I have a question. Got an older dell laptop. The install gets past "scanning cdrom" but after that its justs a blue screen. any ideas?
[11:04] <Simira> daniels: here we go again. "Gnome-panel quits unexpectedly"
[11:05] <DigiKill> weeeeeeeeeeee
[11:05] <DigiKill> Ubuntu on Dual 533 PPC's....
[11:05] <DigiKill> pretty snappy overall
[11:06] <FX|Laptop> anyone have an answer?
[11:06] <DigiKill> FX|Laptop: i didnt see the question
[11:06] <crimsun> I have an answer, but it might not be to your question.
[11:06] <xevil> FX|Laptop: you may try disabling acpi
[11:07] <FX|Laptop> go to exper mode on boot?
[11:07] <freedomla> hi can somebody help me with installing linux?
[11:07] <xevil> yeah
[11:07] <FX|Laptop> or what would be the correct command?
[11:07] <freedomla> i have this old mac os system, and i'm trying to get it to boot from the cd
[11:08] <xevil> FX|Laptop: check this page... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops/view?searchterm=dell%20notebook%20install
[11:08] <DigiKill> freedomla: ....old beige system?
[11:08] <Dekkard> but i could be wrong
[11:08] <freedomla> i tried that but it didn't work
[11:08] <nootrope> ubuntu runs on motorola cpus?
[11:08] <FX|Laptop> ty xevil checking it out now
[11:09] <DigiKill> freedomla: Hold Down C  to boot from CD
[11:09] <DigiKill> at startup...immediately after turnin off system
[11:09] <freedomla> it didn't work
[11:09] <freedomla> i don't know why
[11:09] <DigiKill> yep nootrope
[11:09] <nootrope> kool
[11:09] <DigiKill> im on dual PPCs right now...
[11:09] <nootrope> kool++
[11:09] <DigiKill> tho process manager isnt seein 2nd cpu on graph :S
[11:09] <DigiKill> freedomla: you have to hold it down till it kicks up your monitor....
[11:10] <DigiKill> i had to hold mine down for like 2 minutes or so...just to be SURE it would boot
[11:10] <nootrope> my question is, how to setup PPPoE in ubuntu
[11:10] <DigiKill> PPPoE in ubuntu?  not sure ...i dont use pppoe
[11:10] <DigiKill> and i just got installed myself ;)
[11:11] <nootrope> thanks, DigiKill.  Anyone else know?
[11:12] <Dekkard> first check to see if rppppoe is installed
[11:12] <nootrope> i'm trying to test itfrom the live cd, first.  :/
[11:12] <freedomla> well i held down c b4 i shut down, then shut down, then reboot, and kept holding it until it booted to the user-mode screen
[11:12] <nootrope> ok. i'll check on rp-pppoe
[11:12] <freedomla> and it still didn't work
[11:13] <DigiKill> freedomla: what model Mac?
[11:13] <freedomla> really old
[11:13] <freedomla> how do i check?
[11:13] <DigiKill> is it an 8600 or something>?
[11:13] <gpled> i have x installed, but cant get gnome up. what apt-get install do i need?
[11:13] <DigiKill> does it still have OS8 or whatever installed?
[11:14] <freedomla> it's mac os
[11:14] <freedomla> that's it
[11:14] <freedomla> no number after it
[11:14] <DigiKill> cuz "about this mac" would tell you off the Apple icon...pretty sure..
[11:15] <Dekkard> bbiaf
[11:15] <freedomla> it said J1-8.1
[11:15] <DigiKill> i just need to figure out how to mount hfs+ drives now...
[11:17] <DigiKill> freedomla: that means youre running OS 8.1....try the "more info" button.
[11:17] <DigiKill> Japanese 0S8.1 at that...
[11:17] <freedomla> ok
[11:18] <freedomla> so does that mean anything to u?
[11:18] <DigiKill> that just means the OS its runnin....
[11:18] <DigiKill> isnt there a MORE INFO button in that area?
[11:19] <freedomla> not really
[11:19] <freedomla> i just see 13mb and a bar next to ti
[11:19] <wildrex> im a newbie at linux if my wirless ethernet card is shown as eth0 an realtek 8180 but none of the lights are on
[11:20] <gpled> has anyone seen any docs about what to do, when x fails to install?  how to fix it up with apt-get?
[11:21] <magnon> gpled: you're not providing any information on why it fails
[11:21] <paulproteus> wildrex: Then it means you probably not connected to any network.
[11:22] <FX|Laptop> I don't think Ubuntu wants to play nice with my cdrom. :(
[11:22] <f-> is Ubuntu a version of debian?
[11:23] <DigiKill> yes F-
[11:23] <wildrex> an wlan is grayed out?
[11:23] <FX|Laptop> fails at "detect and mount cd-rom. :(
[11:23] <wildrex> do i have to install ndiwrapper compile wlan driver
[11:24] <gpled> magnon: says some packages failed to install.  manualy add them. does not tell which ones.
[11:24] <D0wnXcaST> Anyone can tell me how i can create a DOS Boot disk in linux?
[11:25] <gpled> FX|Laptop: what kind of cdrom drive you have?
[11:25] <freedomla> DigiKill, i know that Mac can read the linux cd when it's booted into regular mode, but is it a compatibility problem? or is linux cross-platform like java?
[11:25] <gpled> D0wnXcaST: find a dos image, and dd it to /dev/fd0
[11:25] <DigiKill> freedomla: is this a TOWER or a desktop <flat>
[11:25] <D0wnXcaST> what do you mean by dd ?
[11:25] <freedomla> tower
[11:26] <FX|Laptop> gpled not really sure. Its a removable one that came with the latitude c600 laptop I have
[11:26] <gpled> D0wnXcaST: dd if=/dosdisk.img of=/dev/fd0
[11:27] <gpled> FX|Laptop: sometime they are usb
[11:27] <D0wnXcaST> ok, but what's the meaning of dd
[11:27] <DigiKill> freedomla: is it Blue and White?  or beige/white colored : the tower
[11:27] <gpled> D0wnXcaST: man dd
[11:27] <D0wnXcaST> sorry, i'm newbi
[11:27] <FX|Laptop> Nah mine slides in and out. The floppy drive is the same.
[11:27] <freedomla> it's white
[11:27] <magnon> gpled: try apt-get install --fix-missing
[11:27] <gpled> D0wnXcaST: hope i dont sound mean. not trying to.
[11:27] <DigiKill> freedomla: the Model# should be printed on the front of the tower... Powermac xxxx
[11:27] <D0wnXcaST> no
[11:28] <DigiKill> from what ive been told
[11:28] <FX|Laptop> If I need floppy I just pull out the cdrom and same if I need the cdrom, slide out the floppy
[11:28] <gpled> magnon: is that a real command?  that would be cool
[11:28] <magnon> it is
[11:28] <D0wnXcaST> anyway, i'll try this, but i would like to know what the command dd does exactly, seem to extract the image to the floppy
[11:28] <magnon> I believe it works that way
[11:29] <FX|Laptop> Works up until it tries to install the packages off the cdrom. :(
[11:29] <gpled> magnon: thanks, will try that.  have to run.
[11:29] <freedomla> it says power macintosh 6500/275
[11:29] <DigiKill> freedomla: one thing ive been told...it may be a SCSI HDD, and ubuntu didnt like my SCSI at all....
[11:30] <freedomla> everything is so sealed up inside, so it's kind of hard for me to do anything with the parts, even checking them haha
[11:31] <freedomla> i thought scsi drives work fine w/ linux
[11:31] <freedomla> that's what they use for servers right?
[11:31] <DigiKill> Ubuntu didnt like my Adaptec SCSI card at all on install tho
[11:31] <DigiKill> i had to pull it to install Ubuntu
[11:32] <freedomla> but i can't even boot from the cd
[11:32] <freedomla> i see a hd-like icon before i see the mac smiley face, but that's only for less than a second
[11:32] <freedomla> when i press c
[11:32] <freedomla> when i don't press c it doesn't appear
[11:33] <DigiKill> freedomla: from what ive been told by the #macosx room <where i am in another window> it could be a bad ribbon or lazer...
[11:33] <DigiKill> perhaps that room may be able to help you more than I can....
[11:33] <DigiKill> very knowledgable mac heads in #macosx
[11:33] <freedomla> ok
[11:34] <DigiKill> and thats where im pullin my info from ;)
[11:34] <freedomla> alright i'll try
[11:36] <D0wnXcaST> anyone has a good list of all commands i can use in the terminal ?
[11:36] <crimsun> um...
[11:36] <crimsun> there's no such thing.
[11:37] <paulproteus> D0wnXcaST: http://www.physics.ubc.ca/mbelab/computer/linux-intro/html/
[11:38] <xevil> D0wnXcaST: check this page: http://www.computerhope.com/unix.htm
[11:39] <D0wnXcaST> great, thanks to both of you
[11:40] <paulproteus> D0wnXcaST: Here's a hint: I googled for introduction+command+line+linux :)
[11:40] <Qerub> Hello. I'm having some problems with getting fglrx working in Ubuntu (Warty). Everything is installed fine, but the computer locks up when running 3D intensive stuff like Tux Racer. (glxgears works.) Any ideas?
[11:40] <D0wnXcaST> :)
[11:41] <goonie> I'm having problems with downloading from Ubuntu repositories.. I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-<IP_ADDRESS>/linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-16.3_i386.deb
[11:41] <goonie>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:41] <mAIJK> tux racer ;))
[11:42] <goonie> does anyone else have these problems?
[11:42] <paulproteus> goonie: You may want to do apt-get update , or click "Refresh" in Synaptic.
[11:46] <goonie> paulproteus: thx... I feel kinda stupid now :$
[11:46] <DigiKill> anyone know where the HFS+ mounting "helper" is in ubuntu?
[11:49] <titanium> when i made my warty livecd, should i have not finalized it? i still can't get it to boot properly from the cd so i'm thinking i must've screwed it up
[11:51] <fridge> is there a guide to the python integration efforts in ubuntu?
[11:52] <D0wnXcaST> anyone could tell me, when i boot with a DOS Boot disk, can i have access to my hd partition?
[11:53] <paulproteus> goonie: One lesson learned.
[11:53] <paulproteus> D0wnXcaST: No.
[11:53] <D0wnXcaST> ohhh, is there a way that i can access my hd partition in dos
[11:53] <thenuke> D0wnXcaST: you can access dos-compatible partitions :)
[11:53] <D0wnXcaST> da....
[11:54] <D0wnXcaST> my winxp partition is NTFS
[11:54] <D0wnXcaST> so i cant copy any file?
[11:54] <scizzo> D0wnXcaST: accessing the files...sure....writting to a NTFS disk...risky
[11:54] <thenuke> well, if you have bootdisk which is made in XP+
[11:55] <thenuke> scizzo: he is talking about dos-boot disk
[11:55] <thenuke> scizzo: not about linux and ntfs-support :)
[11:55] <D0wnXcaST> look, my problem is on my Win XP pc, i got the lsass.exe problem, so i want to boot in dos to copy the new lsass.exe
[11:55] <scizzo> ok
[11:55] <thenuke> try and boot, I do not know what kind of bootdisk you have :)
[11:55] <D0wnXcaST> thenuke: can i find an image of a boot disk made in winxp?
[11:56] <D0wnXcaST> i took a DOS 6.22 boot disk
[11:56] <thenuke> D0wnXcaST: I think you could go for www.bootdisk.com
[11:56] <D0wnXcaST> the latest dos , but maybe i would need a winxp boot disk like you said
[11:57] <D0wnXcaST> i'll try the: XP Quick Boot Diskette
[11:58] <D0wnXcaST> oh, it wont work
[11:59] <D0wnXcaST> this is only a disk to boot with when you got some booting file damaged