[12:14] <Sanne> kai: you can simulate installing by: sudo apt-get -s install xchat
[12:14] <kai> Sanne: Im not a total nube,
[12:14] <Sanne> kai: then you cann see what would happern beforehand
[12:14] <Thass> I have a problem: I cant change my resolution, when I do it crashes back to the login page. And I am trying to change to a lower resolution so its a bit weird.
[12:14] <kai> I jiust odn't all the specifics when it comes to commands
[12:14] <Thass> anyone who can help? :)
[12:15] <Sanne> kai: you'll learn :). You can also search for xchat in adept or synaptic and install from there, if you prefer.
[12:15] <nuxil> hmmm is it worth installing the beta release?
[12:15] <ranjan> Thass: remove higher resolutions from xorg.conf and retsrta X
[12:16] <Sanne> nuxil: it may break. It's due on thursday.
[12:16] <Thass> How do I do that? Sorry I just switched to Linux so yah, unlike kai I AM a total nub :D
[12:17] <ranjan> Thass: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:17] <nuxil> Sanne, aha, then i can wait :)
[12:17] <Sanne> nuxil: heh :)
[12:17] <kai> like that cat var log, I woulda never thought of that
[12:17] <ranjan> Thass: when file is open look for Section "Screen"
[12:17] <kai> there was stuff I was doin in suse 10.1 for wireless(which I never got to work)
[12:18] <AlCantara> hello! im searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.
[12:18] <lookazooka> Thass: maybe you'll need a little googling, because you'll want to know how to deal with the xorg.conf file
[12:18] <Thass> ok lookazooka
[12:18] <Sanne> kai: that tail -f command? cool, isn't it? You can monitor every text file with that.
[12:18] <ranjan> Thass: to restart X Crl+Alt+Backspace
[12:19] <kai> so long as it get updated, Im still not overally familier witht the file system
[12:19] <kai> I messed up some stuff that I was never able to fi
[12:19] <kai> *fix
[12:21] <lookazooka> anyone knows how yo set the PCI sound card (SB Audigy2) as "preferred" over the mobo-integrated one (Intel ICH5)?
[12:23] <kai> Sanne: with the -f switch do
[12:28] <yannick> salut
[12:29] <yannick> il y a des fille qui voudrai parler
[12:29] <Plk-Cnty|Beer-Po> hola!!
[12:30] <yannick> c tranquil rare ici
[12:30] <posingaspopular> !fs
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[12:30] <posingaspopular> !fr
[12:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:31] <compilerwriter> !it
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[12:31] <compilerwriter> !de
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[12:33] <kgx> !jp
[12:33] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[12:33] <sticksabuser> !ar
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[12:33] <kgx> !nz
[12:33] <ubotu> nz is the New Zealand LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-nz
[12:33] <kgx> :D
[12:34] <Sanne> !botabuse
[12:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:40] <velle> Hey, could somebody help me with aptitude? I need to install unrar-nonfree, and I (I think) enabled Multiverse. But still I cant find it in aptitude.
[12:40] <kai> wasup w/ the bot
[12:40] <wolferine> velle
[12:40] <kai> They mad him fun to mess w/ or something
[12:40] <wolferine> dont get the unrar-free, get the unrar
[12:40] <Ace2016> Hi all
[12:40] <wolferine> velle, consult the Ubuntu Guide (use google), it will explain setting up the repos/installing unrar
[12:41] <Ace2016> anyone have a mouse with a mouse ball where the scroll wheel is? or a 8D scroll ball mouse?
[12:42] <wolferine> Ace2016, cannot get it installed, or issues with the setup?
[12:43] <acidBURN> is there a way to setup konqueror to use some of firefox plugins?
[12:43] <velle> wolferine: Ok, I've installed "unrar" now. And it seems to work. Thank you.
[12:43] <wolferine> np velle
[12:43] <Ace2016> wolferine: issues with the setup
[12:43] <wolferine> now get use to a cli rar, and not the GUI rar, your use to :)
[12:43] <wolferine> Ace2016, check the forums?
[12:43] <AlCantara> i am searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.
[12:43] <noxwayxhome> hello every one hows it hanging lol
[12:44] <bobstro> to the left
[12:44] <wolferine> AlCantara, a GUI one, why not just a cli?
[12:44] <Ace2016> wolferine: the up and down scroll correctly scrolls up and down in apps, however left and right act as a faster up and down scroll instead of a left and rght scroll
[12:44] <shawn34> can K3b burn VCDs?
[12:44] <wolferine> Ace2016, has it always been that way?
[12:44] <noxwayxhome> shawn34yess
[12:44] <wolferine> shadowraven, ask in #tovid, they know ALL about it
[12:45] <noxwayxhome> shawn34 yes it can
[12:45] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: how i can't find the option?
[12:45] <AlCantara> wolferine: my _user_ has to create different accounts with different ftp-folders and user-rights every day.
[12:45] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: do i need to install a plugin?
[12:45] <noxwayxhome> shawn34:  file- new projects
[12:45] <wolferine> AlCantara, ah, well, if your coming form a winblows environment, FTP just isnt the same :)
[12:46] <pyrotix> I've converted a bunch of .flv from youtube to .mpg's although my archos 404 needs to buy a codec to run those (grr), how would I convert the files to .avi?
[12:46] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: a crap, i can't convert avi to mpeg though can it
[12:46] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: damn
[12:46] <noxwayxhome> noxwayxhome: no you cant
[12:46] <wolferine> shawn34, tovid does .avi to .mpeg
[12:46] <shawn34> devede i guess
[12:46] <shawn34> tovid?
[12:46] <wolferine> yes
[12:46] <AlCantara> wolferine: yes. i used bpftp with windows. it was perfect.
[12:46] <wolferine> i gave you the channel for it already
[12:47] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: do a search on the net it is the best dvd rip around
[12:47] <wolferine> AlCantara, then run VMware or Wine :)
[12:47] <AlCantara> urgs
[12:47] <wolferine> hehe
[12:47] <wolferine> hey, its an option
[12:47] <pyrotix> is the answer to my question the same?
[12:47] <wolferine> as for a GUI FTP, I am sure there is one out there
[12:47] <pyrotix> trying to mpeg --->> .avi
[12:47] <noxwayxhome> wolferine: what do you want one for
[12:48] <wolferine> tovid wont do that pyrotix
[12:48] <AlCantara> but what about the port 21 access for a wine-application? can a app with user-rights aquire it?
[12:48] <wolferine> noxwayxhome, i think your getting comfuesd :)
[12:48] <pyrotix> GUI ftp: pure-ftp has a gnome frontend
[12:48] <AlCantara> cool. will try it
[12:48] <wolferine> AlCantara, you can do anything in linux :)
[12:48] <noxwayxhome> wolferine:sorry
[12:48] <wolferine> noxwayxhome, np
[12:48] <AlCantara> just found the pure-ftp configuration at /etc/pureftp
[12:49] <pyrotix> Now can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> .avi?
[12:49] <wolferine> AlCantara, either way, it just wont be the same as you had it
[12:49] <wolferine> pyrotix, did you google it?
[12:49] <noxwayxhome> DeVeDe this is a good program for dvd stuff look it up anyone how was asking
[12:50] <shawn34> ImportError: No module named pygtk
[12:50] <Ace2016> hi again
[12:50] <shawn34> when running devede: ImportError: No module named pygtk
[12:51] <Ace2016> anyone know how to map Win+left mouse button > middle click?????
[12:51] <AlCantara> pure-ftp website: "An excellent choice for newbies."  ... hope so... ;)
[12:51] <Ace2016> its just really hard to middle click with this thing
[12:51] <noxwayxhome> xampplite it is a good temp webserver for windows
[12:51] <BadRabbit320> do I need to access other channels thru 'channel list' each time I want to enter another channel?
[12:51] <wolferine> lol
[12:51] <shawn34> when running devede: ImportError: No module named pygtk, any ideas?
[12:52] <mrdlouisd> Im trying to format my external hdd to nfts what is a good program to do so?
[12:52] <wolferine> BadRabbit320, just type /join #newchannel
[12:52] <shawn34> BadRabbit320: no, /join #chan-name
[12:52] <wolferine> where each #newchannel, is the one you want to enter
[12:52] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, you want to do NTFS, why?
[12:53] <shawn34> any help with this error?
[12:53] <AlCantara> yes. xampp is very good, but complex. omniHTTPd is a good lightweight alternative in many cases
[12:53] <pyrotix> wolferine: no luck, although ffmpeg may possibly be able to convert .flv --> .avi I got lost in the man page
[12:53] <wolferine> AlCantara, I use proFTPd
[12:53] <mrdlouisd> its for my win32 server. I plucked this drive out of a dvr box I had and it will read in linux easier then win
[12:53] <shawn34> im trying to get this burned so me and my girl can watch this movie tonight
[12:53] <wolferine> pyrotix, ask in #tovid
[12:53] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: http://www.pygtk.org/ take look here
[12:53] <wolferine> really, they know a thing or two
[12:54] <BadRabbit320> so I still need to type the chan name each time?  Bookmarks is grayed once I click on it...
[12:54] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, will it primarily be a linux drive (will you want to write to it in Linux) ?
[12:54] <wolferine> BadRabbit320, what IRC client?
[12:54] <mrdlouisd> no its for my win32 server
[12:54] <mrdlouisd> thats why i would like to format to nfts
[12:54] <wolferine> then format it on the win box :)
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> wont recognize on the win drive
[12:55] <BadRabbit320> Konversation
[12:55] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: is it in the repositories?
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> it was plucked from a dvr and is ext format
[12:55] <wolferine> well, just to let you know, NTFS is hard to get along with linux
[12:55] <wolferine> fyi
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> i just want to format that is all
[12:55] <mrdlouisd> then it goes to the server
[12:55] <wolferine> well, you might want to ask in a win chanel
[12:56] <mrdlouisd> qpart wont work
[12:56] <mrdlouisd> qtpart i think its called
[12:56] <wolferine> Gnome Partition Editor?
[12:56] <mrdlouisd> ill just beat up google, figured id find someone thats preformed it before here, thanks wolf for the help
[12:56] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: give min
[12:57] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, u can probably just do it in the winbox, usb?
[12:57] <pyrotix> wolferine: I'm not trying to create a vcd, just to get a video file into a format my archos 404 (think ipod video-like thing) can play
[12:58] <wolferine> Pyrotix, last time, check out #tovid :)
[12:58] <pyrotix> kk
[12:59] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: see if you have the lattest version of python
[12:59] <AlCantara> pyrotix: are you sure, that pure-ftp has a gnome frontend? i cant find anything like that
[12:59] <mrdlouisd> wolf my prob is its in ext format and windows will not recognize that format
[01:00] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, partition magic?
[01:00] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, just because you cannot see the drive in "My computer", doesnt mean its not there
[01:00] <pyrotix> yep
[01:00] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: python 2.4.6-11ubuntu3
[01:00] <pyrotix> AlCantara: PureAdmin, for PureFTPd
[01:00] <mrdlouisd> just remembered that ill see if i cant get it to come up
[01:01] <AlCantara> thanks
[01:02] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: python 2.4.6-11ubuntu3... thats the latest right?
[01:02] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: yes that is what i have
[01:03] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: well i dont know
[01:03] <Ahmuck> items are not showing up on my k menu.  is there a way to get kmenu to add them automagically ?
[01:03] <wolferine> Ahmuck, kmenu doesnt do it, the programs do it themselves
[01:03] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: what desktop are you running
[01:03] <shawn34> kde
[01:03] <wolferine> or you would have to add them manually
[01:04] <wolferine> Ahmuck, as each application will require a different command to execute it
[01:04] <Ahmuck> i thought there was a program that would autodiscover programs and add them
[01:04] <Ahmuck> or at least i saw one in add/remove programs
[01:04] <wolferine> Ahmuck, google that, and see if your lucky :)
[01:06] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: you want to know somthing funny it is the same problem i am having with mine lol
[01:06] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: i just installed it and it is telling me the same thing
[01:07] <hitmanWilly> noxwayxhome, shawn34 what is it telling you? just got here
[01:07] <mrdlouisd> Thanks wolf remember getting a hdd to work awhile back on a comp, and just formated it on my win box, thanks again for refreshing my brain lol.
[01:07] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly: pygtk is missing
[01:08] <hitmanWilly> noxwayxhome, there's a gtk-specific python lib, hod on a sec...
[01:08] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, np
[01:08] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly that is what i was looking up right know
[01:08] <noxwayxhome> on there site
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> python-gtk2
[01:09] <Ahmuck> i added a buch of apps, such as bluefish, etc and i had kde menu editor open when doing it ... would this cause the icons not to be added to the menu?
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> and python-gtk2-dev
[01:09] <noxwayxhome> lol thanks hitman
[01:09] <shawn34> apt-get install python-gtk2   ?
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> shawn34, yup
[01:09] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly: try this one know
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> see if that works
[01:10] <pyrotix> Can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> .avi?
[01:10] <noxwayxhome> hitmanWilly: where is the past bin site at
[01:10] <noxwayxhome> i have another err
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> !paste
[01:10] <shawn34> lol
[01:10] <eagles0513875> i feel like a total idiot
[01:10] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: lol
[01:10] <shawn34> now it can't find glade
[01:10] <shawn34> lord
[01:11] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: that is what i am geting now two
[01:11] <lettuce_> I have two HDs, one with kubuntu and one with Windows. I can boot from each of them, but only if the other one is unplugged. When I have both of them plugged in, the one with kubuntu begins to boot, but then gives and error and doesn't start. Will installing lilo allow me to choose which HD to boot from, or do I have to do something else?
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> shawn34, dis you install this through the repos?
[01:11] <noxwayxhome> lettuce_: you need to install grub on the mrb
[01:11] <lettuce_> what's mrb?
[01:11] <eagles0513875> u mean mbr
[01:11] <pyrotix> Can someone tell me how to .mpg ---> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?
[01:11] <eagles0513875> lettuce_: mbr
[01:12] <noxwayxhome> eagles0513875: yes
[01:12] <lettuce_> ok, what's that? :)
[01:12] <angasule> pyrotix: mplayer can do it
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> !codecs | pyrotix
[01:12] <eagles0513875> lettuce_: make sure u installed windows first
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> is the bot dead?
[01:12] <eagles0513875> if u r planning on doing a duel boot
[01:12] <eagles0513875> !help[
[01:12] <lettuce_> well crap I don't want to go through all this again
[01:12] <eagles0513875> lettuce_: did u install linux first
[01:12] <lettuce_> is there anything I can do?
[01:13] <eagles0513875> not that i know of
[01:13] <lettuce_> ya linus first
[01:13] <eagles0513875> humm
[01:13] <lettuce_> *linux
[01:13] <kai> I had the flash plugins for firefox and opera and it worked fine, I restarted and now sites like speedtest.net dont work any its like it was never installed. Any one else have that problem?
[01:13] <eagles0513875> i dunno lettuce_ im still a noob
[01:13] <eagles0513875> r u using edgy or feisty
[01:13] <pyrotix> !codecs
[01:13] <lettuce_> so am i lol
[01:13] <eagles0513875> !codecs
[01:13] <lettuce_> it's ok :)
[01:13] <pyrotix> !codecs
[01:13] <pyrotix> WHAT
[01:13] <eagles0513875> lol the bot has arrived
[01:13] <pyrotix> HE WON'T HELP ME
[01:14] <pyrotix> GORRAM BOT
[01:14] <eagles0513875> !codecs | pyrotix
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, you have to reinstall grub since windows overrides the hdd's boot sector
[01:14] <lettuce_> but what did you mean by installing grub on the mbr?
[01:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> yay, bot!!
[01:14] <eagles0513875> that is what i mean when i said install windows first
[01:14] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to fix choppy video in MergedFB?
[01:14] <ubotu> pyrotix: please see above
[01:14] <eagles0513875> once windows is installed it installs it onto the mbf
[01:14] <eagles0513875> *mbr
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> !grub | lettuce_
[01:15] <shawn34> hitmanWilly: its looking for glade, gtk.glade, there are many packages with 'glade' in the name...
[01:15] <lettuce_> do i have to reinstall linux to do that or is there a way to only reinstall grub
[01:15] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: got it python-glade2
[01:15] <KrAmMeR> or is that just the quality of my graphics card
[01:15] <shawn34> i just did that
[01:15] <noxwayxhome> shawn34: lol
[01:15] <lettuce_> oh ok !grub in terminal?
[01:15] <ubotu> lettuce_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:15] <shawn34> wait no
[01:15] <shawn34> i did glade-2.1
[01:15] <shawn34> brb
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> shawn34, it'll be libglade<something or other>
[01:15] <lettuce_> what if I install lilo?
[01:16] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, why would you want to do that?
[01:16] <lettuce_> cause It could substitute for grub
[01:16] <shawn34> Got it!
[01:17] <shawn34> noxwayxhome: python-glade2 vcdimager
[01:17] <eagles0513875> j/w
[01:17] <shawn34> thanks guys
[01:17] <eagles0513875> i have an nvidia gpu
[01:17] <ubuntu> coldfr3ak, you here?
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, it doesn't matter, either one will work only if it is installed AFTER windows
[01:17] <ubuntu> nope
[01:17] <lettuce_> ok thank you
[01:17] <eagles0513875> only thing is when i do glxinfo it comes up as direct rendering as no y is that but when i run glxgears it runs flawlessly
[01:17] <ubuntu> #ubuntuforums
[01:18] <ubuntu> #ubuntu
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, there's a tutorial somewhere on how to do it, search on the ubuntu wiki's, the bot knows, but it's ignoring me
[01:18] <lettuce_> if I reinstall grub from a package manager, will that do?
[01:18] <eagles0513875> bot is broken
[01:19] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, if you can boot into nix, then yes
[01:19] <pyrotix> eagles0513875: mplayer I thought just played video, I'm trying to convert .mpg (MPEG-1) -> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?
[01:19] <lettuce_> what do you mean by that?
[01:19] <ubuntu> Fr3ak, you here?
[01:19] <pyrotix> forget the question mark
[01:19] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, you said you installed windows after nix, right?
[01:19] <eagles0513875> i know there is a converter pyrotix but i dont remember the name
[01:19] <lettuce_> what's nix?
[01:20] <eagles0513875> let me chekc pkg repository pyrotix
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, ubuntu
[01:20] <lettuce_> ok, ya
[01:20] <ubuntu> ?
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, sorry, refering to prog, not you
[01:20] <ubuntu> ok sorry
[01:20] <ubuntu> actually I'm danny500
[01:21] <ubuntu> but my main drive is fed up and I can't get it to boot
[01:21] <eagles0513875> i cant find it pyrotix
[01:21] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, do you have a livecd handy?
[01:21] <ubuntu> I have to drives with ubuntu cause I just stuck a new drive in that had it and now I can't use my original drive
[01:22] <lettuce_> ya
[01:22] <lettuce_> tons
[01:22] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, nix is just shorthand for any unix/linux/bsd type system
[01:22] <ubuntu> any ideas what to do?
[01:22] <lettuce_> oh, ok
[01:23] <hitmanWilly> lettuce_, you'll probably have to boot into that(livecd) to fix this issue
[01:24] <Ace2016> wolferine: no luck, tried the stuff in the forums, the mouse buttons just aren't detected, this is the mouse:   http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38162&DOY=search&C=SO&U=Strat12
[01:25] <Ace2016> can anyone help
[01:25] <eagles0513875> whats wrong ace
[01:25] <IdleOne> just installed kubuntu-desktop and logged back in. I get the kubuntu login screen but I the default ubuntu desktop loads up? what do I need to uninstall to get just kubuntu on my system?
[01:25] <Ace2016> buttons 6 and 7 are being detected as 5 and 6
[01:25] <Ace2016> argh sorry
[01:25] <eagles0513875> u mean a keyboard issue
[01:25] <Ace2016> nope mouse issue
[01:25] <eagles0513875> IdleOne: just download server if u only want cli
[01:25] <eagles0513875> let me c ace
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, select kde as default session form login screen
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> *from
[01:26] <IdleOne> eagles0513875: dont want cli I want Kubuntu without the gnome stuff that was on here before
[01:26] <ubuntu> wow, they have good servers for downloading Ubuntu 6.10, I'm downloading it at a good 1.5MB/s :D
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> nice!
[01:26] <ubuntu> impressive
[01:27] <hitmanWilly> i generally top out at 5-600 k
[01:27] <Ace2016> eagles0513875: i modified my xorg.conf to try and get it to work but no luck http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/552
[01:27] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: didnt see where to choose session on the login screen
[01:27] <ubuntu> they need to get a better server for the updates
[01:27] <ubuntu> cause I do 500kb/s max while updating
[01:28] <ubuntu> and with 300 programs to download thats kinda frustrating lol
[01:28] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, it could be anywhere, depending on the login screen theme
[01:28] <ubuntu> Hey um, I'm having a problem botting from my one Ubuntu drive
[01:28] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: im assuming it's default
[01:28] <IdleOne> gonna check and see
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, it'll should have something like <Session> on it
[01:29] <ubuntu> I just put a new hd in and installed ubuntu on it aswell and when I restatted the computer the first hd stopped alowing me to boot from it
[01:29] <ubuntu> any help?
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, did the installer screw up the MBR somehow?
[01:30] <ubuntu> whats the MBR?
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> master boot record
[01:30] <ubuntu> don't know
[01:30] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, Master Boot REcord
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu do you use grub?
[01:30] <ubuntu> yes
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> your on a live cd right
[01:31] <ubuntu> nope, I'm on the drive I just installed ubuntu on
[01:31] <ubuntu> my original drive won't boot, this one is fine but I only want to use this drive as storage
[01:32] <chemicalvamp> do you know how to mount your faulty install?
[01:32] <chemicalvamp> imean the drive its on
[01:33] <danny500> yes, both drives are on
[01:33] <danny500> I even told the bios to not look to this drive for boot records and to look specifically at the original drive for boot records and still nothing
[01:34] <danny500> I tried taking this drive out thinking the two drives were colliding with each other and even that won't work, I'm thinking about just reinstalling ubuntu
[01:34] <chemicalvamp> paste bin /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst please (replace /mnt/hda1 with your mount point)
[01:35] <angasule>  hello, is it possible to access another computer with fish as a user, but sudo su so that I have superuser access? it's a kubuntu box and I dont want to add a password (and certainly won't allow root login through ssh), but I need to copy all files off /
[01:35] <danny500> ok
[01:36] <danny500> how do I see the hard drives attached right now in terminal?
[01:36] <chemicalvamp> fdisk -l
[01:36] <danny500> ok
[01:37] <chemicalvamp> im not sure tho, i cant test it cuz im running a live cd (wireless adapter doesnt work in feisty yet)
[01:38] <Ace2016> danny500: so it just won't boot? are you sure windows is still there?
[01:38] <Ace2016> just that someone wiped windows this morning and it took a long time to realise that
[01:38] <danny500> windows?
[01:39] <Ace2016> oh i thought yuo said windows couldn't boot
[01:39] <danny500> no, I had Ubuntu working on my original for like a week then  I got a new drive that I was going to use for torrents and when I installed ubuntu on it the first hd stopped booting
[01:39] <danny500> no, fuck windows
[01:39] <danny500> oops
[01:40] <danny500>  languag
[01:40] <danny500> sorry
[01:41] <soulrider__> danny500: what might have happened is that hte partition you had ubuntu on changed names
[01:41] <soulrider__> like, say it was hda, it could ahve changed to hdb
[01:41] <soulrider__> thats why it wouldnt boot
[01:42] <danny500> how can that happen? the
[01:43] <danny500> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$  bin /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:43] <danny500> bash: bin: command not found
[01:43] <danny500> oops nm my bad
[01:44] <danny500> !pastebin
[01:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <danny500> ok, I'm paste binning what it said
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you're not running feisty are you?
[01:47] <danny500> no, 6.06
[01:47] <chemicalvamp> danny500 im pretty sure you need to fix your boot menu
[01:47] <danny500> how do I do that?
[01:47] <danny500> in the bios
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> danny500, /etc/grub/menu.lst
[01:48] <danny500> now check pastebin
[01:48] <chemicalvamp> run fdisk -l to see your partitions, figure out which one you need to fix
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> well its /boot/grub/menu.lst for me
[01:49] <danny500> I'm just going to install 6.10 and see if that fix's it
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, yeah, that's right, typo
[01:50] <danny500> permission denied
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> danny500, sudo it
[01:50] <danny500> oh ok
[01:50] <chemicalvamp> we gotta teach him how to add his ubuntu  boot to it, and i never done it before
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, i have, it's ok
[01:51] <danny500> command not found
[01:51] <danny500> DAMNIT!
[01:51] <danny500> forget it
[01:51] <danny500> I'll just install 6.10
[01:51] <rubyat> danny500: just do manual partitioning when you install
[01:51] <chemicalvamp> its 0,0 for first drive first partition, but is it 1,0 for second drive second partition?
[01:51] <danny500> yeah, I will
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> danny500 whats your mount directory for tyhe drive
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, (1,0) = second drive, first partition
[01:52] <danny500> hdb1
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, first # drive, second # partition
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> what are you running right now ubuntu?
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> whats the text editor for it
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, for stock ubuntu its either gedit or nano
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, or vim for the old school types :)
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> gksudo gedit /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst should be right then
[01:54] <danny500> how do I burn a bootable cd of linux using K3b?
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> burn an image
[01:54] <danny500> yeah, I know that
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> if the image is of a bootable cd.. the created cd will be bootable
[01:54] <danny500> but is there any options I have to click or anything like that?
[01:54] <Ahmuck> is it possible to install windows xp home without screwing up my new shine feisty install
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> nope easy as pie
[01:55] <danny500> ok
[01:55] <danny500> gksudo gedit /mnt/hdb1/boot/grub/menu.lst worked
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> Ahmuck do you have an empty partition
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> lol ever seen this one?
[01:55] <chemicalvamp> !windows
[01:55] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:56] <danny500> HAHAHAHAHA mental institute :D
[01:56] <chemicalvamp> lol i know
[01:56] <Ahmuck> chemicalvamp: yes
[01:56] <danny500> gotta love that
[01:56] <Thass> ok, I need some help (again) :/
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, actually, you don't need the /boot on that path, ubu mounts the partition on /boot
[01:56] <danny500> does anyone here use Breyl?
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> danny500, yes
[01:56] <Thass> I have a via graphic card, I just downloaded the driver but I dont know how to install them?
[01:57] <danny500> you like it?
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> danny500, yes
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> Ahmuck go thru the installer on your free partion then you gotta make sure grub has it in the menu/lst
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> danny500, very much so
[01:57] <danny500> ok how good of a computer do you need to use it?
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> beryl was pretty messy for me
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> pretty good
[01:57] <danny500> I have a 550MHz P3, with 320RAM, and a 8MB graphics card, think that will work?
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> danny500, anything reasonably modern with a 3D graphics card should handle it
[01:58] <chemicalvamp> uhh no
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> danny500, no
[01:58] <danny500> ok just wondering
[01:58] <danny500> lol
[01:58] <Thass> Can anyone help me? im a nub :P
[01:58] <danny500> yp
[01:58] <danny500> yep
[01:58] <chemicalvamp> i got a 2.2ghz 1 gig ram, and 32 mb video, and i wasnt liking the massive processor lag in xgl
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you need like at least a 64mb 3d accelerator for starters
[01:58] <danny500> oh ok
[01:58] <Thass> I downloaded via graphic card drivers, but I dont know how to install them
[01:59] <chemicalvamp> i mean 64*
[01:59] <Ahmuck> chemicalvamp: so if i install windows xp home after i have installed the other it won't destroy the grub menu?
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> Thass, did you download them from the repos?
[01:59] <danny500> well I'm making a new computer right now that will have 3GHz dual core, with 2GB RAM and a 512MB graphics card, Think that will work ok? :D
[01:59] <chemicalvamp> nope, but your gonna have to add the windows boot info to your grub menu
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> Thass, ie apt-get
[01:59] <Thass> hitmanWilly:  no I got it from viarena
[01:59] <Thass> *via arena
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> Thass, i think they have them in the repos, those install themselves
[02:00] <chemicalvamp> danny500 can you pastebin that menu.lst?
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> !via
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <danny500> no it's ok, I'm going to install 6.10 now
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> ok, maybe not:)
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> Thass, what's the problem?
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> !bot snack
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> they got rid of bot snack?
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> !snack
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <danny500> !ubotu snack
[02:01] <Thass> well my screen "refreshrate" or whatever is really slow, so I figured it must be the driver
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> LAME!!!
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> !ping
[02:01] <ubotu> pong
[02:01] <danny500> !marco
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about marco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <danny500> lol darn
[02:02] <danny500> !ping
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> she doesnt like you lol
[02:02] <pyrotix> Can someone tell me how to change .mpg ---> AVI, DivX, MPEG4 or ASF?
[02:02] <danny500> yo, go to www.funnyordie.com and watch the landlord movie, it's way to funny
[02:02] <vontux> pyrotix: I believe mplayer can do that for you
[02:02] <danny500> you can use vlc to
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> danny500 did you get it all fixed up or do you need help? if you need help you gotta paste you menu.lst
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> Thass, i really don't know too much about via graphics cards, do they have any tutorials or anything on the site?
[02:03] <danny500> no, I'm just going to install 6.10 over it and see if that works, if not I'll be back :)
[02:03] <pyrotix> vontux: I was under the impression that mplayer played those tracks, I want to reencode
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> wont you lose data?
[02:03] <danny500> I need 6.10 anyways, need to use ntfs-3g
[02:03] <danny500> nope
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> ahh
[02:03] <danny500> I put all data on www.mediamax.com just incase
[02:03] <vontux> pyrotix: I believe that you can play and dump into the different format
[02:04] <Thass> hitmanWilly:  I didnt find any
[02:04] <vontux> pyrotix: I read about it while researching how to capture c-span video stream with mplayer
[02:04] <chemicalvamp> BUT i would try to fix grub first cuz it wouldnt take as long
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> Thass, try a search on the ubuntu wiki, might be something there
[02:04] <vontux> I would research "mplayer + format conversion"
[02:04] <pyrotix> k, ty
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> !wiki | thass
[02:04] <ubotu> thass: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> Thass, do a search on there for via help
[02:05] <danny500> yes but I need 6.10 anyways
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> Thass, or just via
[02:05] <chemicalvamp> ohh ok
[02:06] <vontux> does anyone know how I can get apt-get to download all of the dependencies for a package using the "-d" option even if my computer already has some of them met?
[02:06] <danny500> wanna hear something funny, this will make you laugh for a good while, it's about Windows and Linux
[02:06] <vontux> ok
[02:06] <danny500> I'll pastebin it
[02:06] <danny500> !pastebin
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <Thass> I got this viafb.modes file that has all the right information atleast
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> vontux, maybe the -f option in conjunction with -d?
[02:08] <vontux> hitmanWilly: I will man it to see, thx
[02:08] <chemicalvamp> Thass have you followed the !ati tutorial?
[02:09] <Thass> chemicalvamp: nope
[02:09] <chemicalvamp> !ati
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <dwidmann> Hmm, does anyone else have trouble getting K3b (1.0) to use normalize-audio?
[02:09] <chemicalvamp> go there, select via and read
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, didn't know they had via instructions there as well
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, but then my knowledge of via chipsets is that they exist, and that's about it
[02:10] <danny500> ok, check pastebin
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> danny500, what url?
[02:11] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you do realize that pastebin puts the post on a new url, right?
[02:11] <danny500> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16032/
[02:12] <danny500> yeah
[02:12] <hitmanWilly> danny500, sorry, didn't know, check pastebin is kinda vague
[02:13] <danny500> ?
[02:13] <danny500> oh ok nm
[02:13] <hitmanWilly> danny500, you would be surprised how many people don't know that
[02:14] <IdleOne> my repos read archive.ubuntu.com do I need to change them to kubuntu?
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, kubuntu uses the ubuntu repos
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, so, no
[02:14] <IdleOne> thank you  hitmanWilly
[02:14] <IdleOne> wasnt sure if they had seperate repos or not
[02:15] <vontux> when you "-d" a file in apt-get, where does it get saved to?
[02:15] <danny500> thats because Ubuntu is the original and Kubuntu was built off of Ubuntu, same as edubuntu blah blah blah
[02:15] <IdleOne> btw is there a #kubuntu+1 for feisty support?
[02:15] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, all kubuntu is is regular ubuntu with kde installed bydefault rather than gnome
[02:15] <chemicalvamp> #ubuntu+1
[02:15] <IdleOne> ok
[02:15] <IdleOne> new to kubuntu. feel like a noob here lol
[02:16] <danny500> if you have ubuntu you can switch to kubuntu right away by installing the kubuntu desktop environment
[02:16] <danny500> it's ok
[02:16] <vontux> when you "-d" a file in apt-get, where does it get saved to?
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> danny500, or vice versa
[02:16] <danny500> yep
[02:16] <Thass> !ati
[02:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:16] <danny500> just use the synaptic installed to do what you want
[02:16] <Thass> Well I cant find a via howTo in there
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> vontux, probably /etc/apt somewhere
[02:16] <vontux> thx
[02:16] <IdleOne> danny500: yeah been running ubuntu for a couple years now just never tried running kde because it is ( or I thought ) heavier then gnome
[02:17] <reydelsillon> what is the kubuntu linux amule or win emule?
[02:17] <danny500> yeah
[02:17] <hitmanWilly> reydelsillon, amule
[02:17] <danny500> as long as it does what you need it to do it's all good
[02:17] <danny500> if it does what you want it to how you want it to then just leave it lol
[02:17] <reydelsillon> cant find it with the adept package manager.
[02:18] <danny500> reydelsillon: use synaptic
[02:18] <hitmanWilly> reydelsillon, or apt
[02:18] <danny500> turn on all repos in the repo settings
[02:18] <IdleOne> !repos > reydelsillon    (reydelsillon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:19] <IdleOne> !botsnack
[02:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:19] <Gh0st75> evening folks
[02:19] <IdleOne> evening Gh0st75
[02:19] <hitmanWilly> yo Gh0st75
[02:19] <Gh0st75> how's everyone doin tonight?
[02:20] <danny500> to change your repo setting open terminal an use this,
[02:20] <danny500> gksu /usr/bin/software-properties
[02:20] <danny500> 6.10 is done burning :D:D:D:D:D
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> ?
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> danny500, why not just edit sources.list?
[02:21] <vontux> does anyone know of a program that keeps a log of what new files have been added to your system each session?
[02:21] <danny500> cause gksu /usr/bin/software-properties is easier
[02:21] <danny500> and faster
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> k
[02:21] <danny500> lol
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> that works too
[02:21] <danny500> ok gotta go for a lil bit need to install 6.10 :d
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> former slack user here
[02:21] <danny500> brb
[02:21] <danny500> me?
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> no, me
[02:21] <danny500> oh ok lol
[02:21] <danny500> brb
[02:22] <IdleOne> hmm I get an error when doing gksu /usr/bin/software-properties
[02:22] <Gh0st75> i have feisty on two systems now, seems to work pretty well
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, which is?
[02:23] <IdleOne> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[02:23] <IdleOne>   Major opcode:  144
[02:23] <IdleOne>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:23] <IdleOne>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:23] <IdleOne> Failed to open device
[02:23] <Gh0st75> no wireless on the laptop yet but i've seen mention of some ndiswrapper settings to check
[02:23] <IdleOne> sorry for the paste
[02:23] <BluesKaj> hitmanWilly, can some running breezy , upgrade directly to feisty ?
[02:23] <BluesKaj> someone
[02:23] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: thats the error
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, does it open up?
[02:23] <IdleOne> nope
[02:23] <soulrider> !software
[02:23] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, maybe, but its not reccomended
[02:24] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: probably wont work and break your system
[02:24] <BluesKaj> there's a guy over at ubuntu+1 asking about it
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, i guess in theory, if you updated sources manually, but definately NOT a good idea
[02:25] <BluesKaj> ok thx hitmanWilly , i'llpass it on
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, ok, run this in terminal: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, once the file comes up,remove any # symbols you find in front of every line that starts with a deb
[02:28] <soulrider> !scanner
[02:28] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:29] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: I wasnt trying to edit sources.list I saw the command and saw the mention of it being easier then say doing sudo nano /etc/ept/sources.list so I trtied it
[02:29] <IdleOne> apt
[02:29] <hitmanWilly> ok, got it
[02:29] <IdleOne> but still wondering why I got that error
[02:29] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:29] <pyrotix> !ffmpeg
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <kubuntu22> quick question...When I installed kubuntu 6.04 I had to install ndiswrapper with special drivers for my WUSB54Gs wireless adapter.  I'm doing the feisty upgrade now..will I have to do it again?
[02:30] <soulrider> does anyon ehere have a scanner? kooca could tell that i ahd one, but the main widnow said i needed SANE for it to work
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, you'll get that error pretty much every time you run an X program from the CLI, all it means is that it can't load the wacom tablet drivers from xorg.conf, but the app should still work fine
[02:31] <IdleOne> kubuntu22: do upgrade from 6.04 to 6.10 to 7.04 to make sure nothing breaks and about ndiswrapper Im not sure but assuming you might have to reinstall
[02:31] <super_rad> do optical usb mice work in kubuntu 6.10? if i boot up with mine plugged in it doesnt work and none of the other usb things work
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> super_rad, mine worked fine on edgy
[02:32] <kubuntu22> IdleOne: I'm already halfway through the Distro upgrade to 7.04!
[02:32] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: ok good to know
[02:32] <IdleOne> kubuntu22: keep going then
[02:32] <kubuntu22> IdleOne: :O
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, did you upgrade to 6.10 first?
[02:32] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: yea
[02:32] <IdleOne> your good then
[02:33] <kubuntu22> cool :)
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, ok, whew
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> that could have been bad
[02:33] <super_rad> hm weird i might have to post on ubuntuforums about it then
[02:33] <kubuntu22> wow...glad I did then heh...why so bad?
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, dapper and feisty are different enough that a straight upgrade can break things
[02:34] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: ahh, I see..to be honest I think my initial install was edgy...I've never used dapper
[02:34] <kubuntu22> so I'm jus tgoing from 6.10 to 7.04
[02:34] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, it's like shifting straight from 1st to 4th in your car
[02:34] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: that makes sense haha
[02:35] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: sometimes its like 5th to 1st
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, that's windows :)
[02:35] <kubuntu22> I'm pretty sure the transmission would explode on that one
[02:35] <IdleOne> lol yeah true
[02:35] <Jisao> If I have a feisty fawn beta build 2007-04-08, will I have to upgrade to have it 'released version', or do I just keep updating and it will be OK?
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> or drive to park
[02:36] <IdleOne> Jisao: updates
[02:36] <Jisao> ok, tx
[02:36] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, you may have to reinstall ndiswrapper though
[02:36] <pyrotix> !biab
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about biab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <Jisao> works well so far, except for serendipidity, which doesn't install properly.
[02:37] <pyrotix> serenity = greatest movie of all time
[02:37] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: will I need a new version of ndiswrapper, or will my old one suffice
[02:37] <Gh0st75> any other intel macbook users here? I was wondering how to enable wireless on it. most searches seem to mention using ndiswrapper but i'm not sure of the syntax or if the files are even on the cd/os
[02:37] <Gh0st75> using feisty
[02:37] <SubOne> I have had at least 5 packages just randomly disappear from my system. I know they were installed, but they just suddenly disappeared. How is this possible amd what is a possible fix?
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, did you get it from a third party site?
[02:38] <IdleOne> SubOne: what packages?
[02:38] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, i can't remember if that ones in the repos or not
[02:38] <SubOne> IdleOne: kdebase-dev, kprinter, "firefox java", um....
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> !ndiswrapper
[02:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> !find ndiswrapper
[02:39] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: I got ndiswrapper from the ubuntu forums
[02:39] <SubOne> IdleOne: few others cant remember at the molment
[02:39] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, ok, forget everything i just said, you're good to go
[02:39] <SubOne> IdleOne: kdebase-dev disappeared twice so far
[02:39] <IdleOne> well that is weird
[02:40] <SubOne> yeah, i know, its starting to piss me off
[02:40] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: ok cool, I'll let you know how it goes, at 60% in the distro upgrade
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, anything out of the ubuntu repos SHOULD upgrade itself
[02:40] <IdleOne> you upgrade to feisty or something?
[02:40] <SubOne> any ideas?
[02:40] <SubOne> no
[02:40] <SubOne> not with my permission anyway
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, yeah, takes awhile
[02:40] <IdleOne> only idea is to report a bug about it
[02:41] <familia> all speak english?
[02:41] <IdleOne> SubOne: do lsb_release -a what version does it give you
[02:41] <IdleOne> !it
[02:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:41] <SubOne> edgy
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> familia, yes this is the english speaking channel
[02:42] <familia> ok thanks
[02:42] <IdleOne> why does adept want to upgrade gnome update manager? oh because I have gnome installed also
[02:42] <familia> im mexican
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> !es | familia
[02:42] <ubotu> familia: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:42] <IdleOne> intonces
[02:43] <IdleOne> adept is purty :)
[02:43] <IdleOne> hehe
[02:43] <hitmanWilly> familia, or stay here if you want :)
[02:43] <kubuntu22> I agree!
[02:43] <SubOne> great now i forget where the firefox java package is
[02:43] <IdleOne> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:43] <kubuntu22> !glx
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> !ati | kubuntu22
[02:44] <ubotu> kubuntu22: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <kubuntu22> !nvidia
[02:44] <SubOne> so no ideas on disappearing packages?
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu22, the bot is kind of dumb on that one, that tutorial works for both
[02:44] <IdleOne> SubOne: first time I hear about something like that
[02:44] <Ace2016> How do i edit the partition table? qtparted won't do it for me, i need something command line i gues
[02:45] <Ace2016> guess*
[02:45] <kubuntu22> hitmanWilly: heh..thanks
[02:45] <SubOne> IdleOne: been happening since yesterday
[02:45] <IdleOne> try reporting a bug but see if you cant reproduce what it is that is being done when the packages disappear
[02:45] <SubOne> IdleOne: it seems to be random
[02:46] <IdleOne> nothing is random in linux
[02:46] <familia> thank you
[02:47] <IdleOne> accept for that dice game that supposedly gives random dice numbers
[02:47] <j_rippel> Hey guys, quick question. I have Windows and Ubuntu installed on two different partitions with a 3rd data partition. I want to reinstall both windows and Kubuntu on their respective partitions, but which should I do first?
[02:47] <IdleOne> dont know the name
[02:47] <IdleOne> windows first
[02:47] <robotpoke> hello
[02:47] <Jisao> Windows, j_rippel
[02:48] <j_rippel> Thanks IdleOne, Jisao!
[02:48] <Gh0st75> windows second will screw up grub, so leave lnux til after
[02:48] <robotpoke> i have a kubuntu box set up to serve webpages.
[02:48] <IdleOne> then ubuntu will install grub to the mbr and handle the boot sequence, windows breaks it
[02:48] <robotpoke> on my local nat
[02:48] <robotpoke> i can get to the webpages with the local nat address but not from outside my local network.
[02:49] <robotpoke> i've reset my vonage router to the default settings
[02:49] <robotpoke> and i still have the same problem
[02:49] <IdleOne> robotpoke: have you forwarded the ports ?
[02:49] <robotpoke> yep
[02:49] <robotpoke> actually, i set up the kubuntu box to be in teh "DMZ"; my best guess is that my ISP may have changed something.
[02:50] <robotpoke> oh yes, i can also ssh into the kubuntu box with no problem
[02:50] <IdleOne> google vonage port forwarding might be something your missing. ISP might be blocking so forward 80 to 8080 or something like that
[02:50] <Marthy> robotpoke: ssh from inside or outside your network?
[02:51] <robotpoke> both ssh'ing inside and outside of my network work.
[02:51] <robotpoke> IdleOne: i'm going to try that now
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> danny500 got it yet?
[02:51] <stephane_> cppl
[02:52] <IdleOne> ssh and web use diff ports isp might not block ssh because they assume your a windows user and why would you know about ssh
[02:52] <robotpoke> that's what i fear; that they decided to block port 80 now that it has seen a little bit of traffic lately
[02:52] <IdleOne> well just move it
[02:53] <luckyone> any wireless experts in here?
[02:53] <chemicalvamp> im no expert but..
[02:53] <chemicalvamp> whats wrong?
[02:53] <luckyone> I am following this how to, to no avail...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409752#post1409752
[02:53] <IdleOne> robotpoke: the traffic your site is getting isnt enough to hurt the isp but they sell that service so they cant let you have it free
[02:54] <robotpoke> IdleOne: i can move it to another site if necessary but i'd like to know for sure first that it is my ISP.
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> luckyone yeah dont work for me either
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> actually it did load
[02:54] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: how did you get it to work?
[02:54] <IdleOne> robotpoke: try forwarding 80 to 8080 first see if it works then gimme the url and I'll see if it loads up
[02:55] <chemicalvamp> whats your problem? the website or your hardware
[02:55] <luckyone> the hardware...
[02:55] <luckyone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409752
[02:56] <ender> hm...I have some beryl/emerald issue
[02:56] <Shootfaster> ender - whats the problem
[02:56] <raylu> namely...i have no window decorations at al
[02:56] <raylu> *all (I'm ender)
[02:57] <chemicalvamp> luckyone well heres the how-to, hope it helps http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16036/
[02:57] <Shootfaster> raylu - try opening beryl in a termin
[02:57] <IdleOne> ok just added a Dock application panel and it gave me a panel on the right side of screen but how do I remove it now?
[02:57] <Shootfaster> raylu - quit beryl first, then open it in a terminal and tell me the output
[02:58] <IdleOne> nm
[02:58] <IdleOne> got it
[02:58] <raylu> beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[02:58] <Shootfaster> ah, good old GLXFBConfig
[02:58] <Shootfaster> i assume your running nvidia?
[02:58] <raylu> beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x32001d4 to texture
[02:58] <raylu> Yes
[02:59] <Shootfaster> try sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[02:59] <Shootfaster> then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:02] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: thanks for that, I could read the howto, it was just following it that didn't work
[03:02] <robotpoke> hotdamn, that was it IdleOne
[03:02] <robotpoke> good thinking
[03:02] <chemicalvamp> luckyone >.< sorry i thought you meant that the link was broken or something
[03:02] <robotpoke> i'm able to get to the site fine using port 8889 from a remote computer
[03:03] <IdleOne> robotpoke: glad I could help
[03:03] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: sadly, no... I wish that was the problem... I can't get my dang wireless card to associate
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> luckyone on feisty
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> ?
[03:07] <luckyone> chemicalvamp: yes
[03:07] <chemicalvamp> im having the same problem
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> you like how lspci in edgy doesnt know what kinda card you have.. BUT feisty does.. and it only works on edgy?
[03:08] <Shootfaster> i get that too :P
[03:09] <chemicalvamp> many many people do
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> luckyone your lucky to have a wired connection
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> i have to boot a live cd to get online
[03:12] <chemicalvamp> and chrooted (and much much more) to update while in live cd to update, which didnt work
[03:15] <Ace2016> hi all
[03:15] <Ace2016> any command i can run to see all mounted partitions and their mount points?
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> fdisk -l
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> thats an L
[03:17] <Ace2016> that doesn't shot the mount points
[03:18] <Ace2016> show*
[03:18] <IdleOne> ok think Im ready to remove gnome. how do I do that?
[03:18] <IdleOne> do i want to do that?
[03:19] <Ace2016> gnome installs a lot of stuff
[03:21] <Ace2016> DON'T TRY THIS,, but just wondering, would removing libgnome-2.0 cause the whole of gnome to be removed???
[03:24] <Shootfaster> Ace2016 - try it in synaptic, just see what it wants to remove then DONT COMMIT!
[03:25] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to change permissions?
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> of a certain folder
[03:29] <Ace2016> Shootfaster: i tried, it didn't want to remove anything else, it only removed libgnome-2.0, the only reason i had it installed was to cover all the deps for compiling qtcurve-gtk2, thought it might need libgnome2-dev or something
[03:29] <Ace2016> chemicalvamp: chmod
[03:30] <chemicalvamp> too late, i sudo mv one of my folders
[03:31] <pyrotix> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, then sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:33] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, anything installed manually will keep all its dependencies
[03:34] <chemicalvamp> how do you sudo mv a folder?
[03:35] <Shootfaster> sudo mv /folder/to/move /location/for/folder
[03:35] <chemicalvamp> i tried that
[03:35] <IdleOne> After unpacking 4796kB disk space will be freed. was hoping to free more space
[03:35] <Shootfaster> what does it say?
[03:35] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, wait till you do the autoremove
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> mv: cannot stat `/home/ubuntu/desktop/driver': No such file or directory
[03:36] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: that is after doing autoremove ubuntu-desktop was already removed
[03:36] <Shootfaster> is there a folder called /home/ubuntu/desktop/driver?
[03:37] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, try sudo apt-cache clean
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> Shootfaster case sensitive is it?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, try sudo apt-get clean
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, the second one i said:)
[03:38] <Shootfaster> definitely case sensitive
[03:38] <IdleOne> will try soon as autoremove is done
[03:38] <Shootfaster> press tab to complete it for you
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, that cleans out the locally stored deb pkgs apt downloaded
[03:41] <IdleOne> hitmanWilly: apt-get clean just returns a prompt
[03:41] <IdleOne> got to go. good night
[03:41] <IdleOne> thank you  hitmanWilly
[03:41] <hitmanWilly> IdleOne, no error msg means it worked
[03:41] <dsmith_> clean, does what?
[03:42] <dsmith_> I use autoremove
[03:42] <kellen> hello
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, clean removes the actual debs that apt downloads
[03:42] <dsmith_> kellen: hello
[03:43] <dsmith_> ahhh ok
[03:43] <dsmith_> i cannot install beryl for some reason
[03:43] <dsmith_> wont download
[03:43] <kellen> I have a problem
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, what version?
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, of ubu
[03:44] <dsmith_> edgy
[03:44] <dsmith_> repos not picking it up, after I update the source
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, you're not trying to get it using apt are you?
[03:44] <kellen> Everytime I install all upgrades in 7.04 my card reader in my laptop quits working
[03:44] <dsmith_> yes, why
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, feisty is the only one with beryl in the repos
[03:44] <dsmith_> ack
[03:44] <dsmith_>  no wonder
[03:45] <dsmith_> out dated websites!
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> :)
[03:45] <dsmith_> i thought I was losing my mind, haha
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> dsmith_, if you really want to, go to beryl.org and get it from there
[03:46] <dsmith_> i am :)
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> any usefull commands anyone here knows? before i try this again?
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> im trying to fix my wireless driver
[03:47] <mcingan> What is it doing>
[03:47] <mcingan> ?
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> i hae to boot my feisty install before i can figure tht out
[03:49] <kellen> does anybody have an idea of which package could be screwing up my card reader?
[03:50] <naught101> anyone know of a GUI PHP beautifier/tidy app, or script?
[03:52] <kellen> ok, guess not
[03:53] <naught101> kellen: try installing upgrades on at a time?
[03:53] <naught101> one
[03:53] <mcingan> Oh yeah I came in here because I had a question
[03:53] <Shootfaster> kellen, what brand of card reader?
[03:53] <Shootfaster> USB or PCI
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> ok, heres a question...
[03:54] <mcingan> anyone know how I can update my bios? I tried the win 98 boot disk way but it told me the the program can not be ran in dos
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> does anyone know of a good email client (gui) that uses the standard unix mail system?
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> hitmanWilly, and preferably one that i don't have to hand confgiure sendmail for :)
[03:56] <kellen> it is a ricoh
[03:56] <kellen> built into a Lenovo N100 laptop
[03:57] <kellen> I just found a couple posts on the ubuntu forums of people with the same problem
[03:57] <kellen> it appears there's no fix as of yet
[03:57] <kellen> somebody suggested that it's a result of upgrading the kernel
[04:02] <Shootfaster> kellen - ok, that sucks :(
[04:02] <Shootfaster> if its any consolation, my card reader doesnt work either :P
[04:06] <polly1> Hello
[04:07] <Shootfaster> hello
[04:07] <polly1> I'm on my uncles computer and the thing is crawling at a snails pace (internet connection that is) any idea what could be causing it to be so slow?
[04:07] <polly1> It is a cable modem connection.
[04:07] <Shootfaster> what version of ubnutu
[04:07] <polly1> 6.10
[04:08] <Shootfaster> click ctrl esc and see what processes are running
[04:09] <TheDebugger> polly1: I had a similar problem before, it was that ubuntu used the wireless connection from the neighbours instead of my own wired connection :P
[04:09] <Shootfaster> :P
[04:09] <polly1> Could someone have hacked into this computer?  Is there a  /etc/rc.firewall  by default?
[04:09] <Shootfaster> yes its possible, but unlikely
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> polly1, not on my system
[04:10] <polly1> It is not a wireless network.
[04:10] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Ok.  Thank you.
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> polly1, then again, feisty
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> polly1, *i use
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> polly1, so your results may vary
[04:12] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Ok
[04:12] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Thank you.
[04:12] <polly1> The connection was working fine about a week ago when I installed the software.
[04:13] <polly1> Someone might have gotten in...
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> polly1, maybe...
[04:13] <polly1> I just installed the firewall and set it up and things are working.
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> polly1, any strange looking proc's?
[04:14] <polly1> hitmanWilly: How could I tell?  I am on ubuntu I usually use kde.
[04:14] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Is there a terminal command?
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> polly1, like an ftp server or p2p client?
[04:15] <timothy> hey, in kig, how do I find the coordinates of a point?
[04:15] <timothy> or is there a better geometrical program I should be using?
[04:15] <polly1> How do I bring up the list of running proccesses?
[04:15] <polly1> From terminal mode again?
[04:15] <timothy> polly1: top
[04:15] <timothy> at the terminal yes
[04:16] <polly1> Does it keep a list of connections in any log files?
[04:17] <polly1> After I installed guarddog it was setting up and said: Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist
[04:17] <polly1> No one else has a rc.firewall though right?
[04:17] <timothy> I kinda just walked in, so I can't answer that without knowing: connections to what, and ect
[04:17] <timothy> I don
[04:17] <timothy> 't have a firewall :{
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> polly1, /var/log/auth.log is where authentication info is stored, check there first for anything weird looking
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> polly1, ie a LOT of failed attempts followed immediately by root access
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> polly1, or something similar
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> polly1, system logs are all stored at /var/log/
[04:25] <polly1> Is there a log of connections from outside?
[04:25] <polly1> Or login attempts? or was that the first one you suggested?
[04:26] <polly1> Apr 11 14:17:01 family-desktop CRON[7055] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[04:26] <polly1> Is there a uid=0 by default?
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> polly1, single digit uid's are all system proc's
[04:27] <polly1> Ok
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> polly1, iirc
[04:28] <ubuntu> yay
[04:28] <chemicalvamp> it didnt work!
[04:29] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: count to 12432 and try again
[04:29] <flaccid> :p
[04:29] <polly1> Apr 14 10:43:45 family-desktop su[1596] : Successful su for family by root
[04:29] <chemicalvamp> anybody know how to install a rt8180 based wireless card in feisty?
[04:29] <peepsalot> i installed kubuntu on top of ubunut/gnome and now I cannot get audio to work
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, in hex
[04:30] <polly1> Is that someone suing on the system?
[04:30] <chemicalvamp> sure wheres the how-to
[04:30] <peepsalot> i have a volume control, but it says no devices exist
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> polly1, if someones su's it'll show up as just that
[04:30] <flaccid> polly1: looks like it
[04:30] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Someone must have been in this box.
[04:31] <polly1> hitmanWilly: My uncle would have no idea what a SU would be.
[04:31] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly where is the how-to
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, how-to for...?
[04:32] <chemicalvamp> micalvamp, in hex
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, that was just a joke in reference to the "count to 12432" comment
[04:33] <chemicalvamp> ohh
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> and it fell flat it seems
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> polly1, is ssh enabled?
[04:34] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I have no idea.
[04:34] <flaccid> netstat -an
[04:34] <flaccid> oops
[04:34] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I'm just a little over 30 days into using linux myself.
[04:34] <flaccid> netstat -an | grep 22
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> polly1, if you suspect an attack, first thing to do is lock down that and telnet
[04:34] <flaccid> see if its listening
[04:35] <flaccid> telnet?
[04:35] <flaccid> first thing to do is change password for family and root users!
[04:35] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I'm going to wipe the system clean in the moring and install feisty fresh.
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, well, that goes without saying
[04:36] <polly1> hitmanWilly: And make sure I set things up a little better.  Make sure my uncle uses a harder password.
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> man who do you gotta {insert verb here} to get my bug fixed
[04:36] <flaccid> polly1: ok i guess thats your choice then.. just use secure/sensible/longish passwords and you'll be cool.
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> polly1, remind him drowssap is NOT an acceptible password :)
[04:36] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: link me to the bug pls
[04:37] <polly1> hitmanWilly: A combination with numbers and letters at the very least.
[04:37] <chemicalvamp> flaccid its hardware related, in feisty
[04:38] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Is there a way to see if this thing is spitting out packets to anywhere?
[04:38] <polly1> Also is there a command to see what names/passwords can log in?
[04:38] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: link me to the bug pls
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> polly1, yes, but i forget the cmd off the top of my head...hold on
[04:39] <chemicalvamp> am'
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> polly1, netstat will show you most of that stuff
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> polly1, at least the open ports
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> how do you get to you submission on launchpad?
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> brb
[04:40] <polly1> hitmanWilly: Are unix 2,3,5 normal things to show up?
[04:41] <polly1> hitmanWilly: I have a ton of Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers)
[04:41] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: search i guess
[04:41] <flaccid> [12:34]  <flaccid> netstat -an | grep 22
[04:41] <flaccid> netstat -a | grep -i tcp | grep -i listen
[04:42] <flaccid> is another one
[04:42] <flaccid> netstat -an | grep -i tcp | grep -i listen | grep 22
[04:42] <flaccid> examples ^^
[04:43] <polly1> BRB
[04:43] <flaccid> and /etc/init.d/ssh stop to stop sshd
[04:44] <peepsalot> can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound?
[04:45] <peepsalot> i cannot get any audio.  i used to work.  not sure what happened
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> back
[04:46] <frank227a> Hello
[04:46] <chemicalvamp> flaccid i cant find it, but i can remember it pretty much.. lshw says -network is UNCLAIMED, lspci displays the correct information about it, ifconfig does not display wlan0, wlassistant says: no devices found
[04:46] <Cosmo_> gDesklets is stuck on loading up and I can't seem to close it, any ideas on how toclose it?
[04:48] <chemicalvamp> flaccid i used nsiwrapper to install the correct windows driver, and it still says all that
[04:50] <ferger> hello
[04:50] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: can't see how long to fix the bug without a bug on launchpad
[04:51] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, I'm baaack...=P
[04:51] <ferger> can you play the same games on gnome on kde?
[04:52] <scrubb2000> ferger, kde and gnome should be able to run all the same applications...even each other's.
[04:52] <chemicalvamp> flaccid i submitted it, i just cant find it
[04:52] <flaccid> chemicalvamp: ok. when you find it, you can check the progress :)
[04:54] <Psiuyo__> What's the best way to connect to a pptp vpn with kubuntu?  I saw network-manager-pptp but that wants a bunch of gnome packages, there must be a better way....
[04:55] <chemicalvamp> it would be nice if launchpad had a "my bugs" area
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, any luck?
[04:58] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, no.  And there's more weirdness.
[04:58] <scrubb2000> Firestarter doesn't seem to be installed.
[04:58] <scrubb2000> And dpkg says dhclient isn't installed, so it can't reconfigure...
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, install it! dhclient i mean
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, use apt to do it anyway
[05:00] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, how do I do that with no internet connection?  Should it be on the DVD?
[05:00] <Cosmo_> what does katapault do?
[05:00] <jtt> i have a multi speed 3d940 Network card  it loads the  skge driver. i know the  PCI address. Can anyone tell me how to determine what speed was negotiated with my linksys router
[05:00] <jtt> 3d=3c
[05:02] <ksnipaz2> I was wondering if anyone knew of any program that could download mms streams?
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, ok, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, dhclient isn't its own package, sorry
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, my mistake
[05:04] <chemicalvamp> flaccid, i found my bug report
[05:05] <scrubb2000> ah ha
[05:05] <peepsalot> i can't find settings for these crazy KDE sounds on minimize/maximize, etc.
[05:06] <flaccid> !pptp
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, is there a tool I can use to check that linux really is using my network adaptor?  Since I can't ping out to anything, I can't tell if it's working or not.
[05:06] <flaccid> !vpn
[05:06] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, ifconfig, which shows both of them up
[05:07] <flaccid> Psiuyo__: ^^ pptpd
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, just not connecting to anything
[05:07] <flaccid> scrubb2000: whats the problem exactly?
[05:07] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, I can't seem to grab an IP from my router.
[05:08] <flaccid> what is the name of your ethernet device?
[05:08] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, but it works fine in XP.
[05:08] <flaccid> scrubb2000 ?
[05:08] <scrubb2000> flaccid, ehh, eth0 and eth1.  THey're nvidia gigabit lan controllers on an nforce 680i SLI board.
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, it's a marvell yukon chipset
[05:09] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, is it for sure?
[05:09] <scrubb2000> I only remember seeing that somewhere...I couldn't find it written in the manual.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, what is the exact name of your mobo?
[05:10] <scrubb2000> Asus P5N32-E SLI
[05:10] <flaccid> scrubb2000: so which one is connected to the LAN that needs the dhcp addresses?
[05:11] <scrubb2000> flaccid, I don't really care...but I have the cable plugged into eth0.  Linux sees it, and ifconfig shows it as being "up" but dhclient can't get an IP from my router.
[05:11] <flaccid> ok
[05:11] <scrubb2000> I wonder if there are any known incompatibilities with linux and my netgear router.
[05:11] <flaccid> so can you please pastebin the output of sudo dhclient eth0
[05:12] <flaccid> best to find out why first..
[05:12] <flaccid> and there are no incompatibilities. both should follow the dhc protocol
[05:12] <scrubb2000> !pastebin
[05:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:12] <scrubb2000> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16053/
[05:13] <scrubb2000> flaccid, this is for dhclient with no args.
[05:13] <flaccid> i dont' want that
[05:13] <flaccid> also pastebine the output of ifconfig -a
[05:13] <scrubb2000> Well too bad cause I have to reboot to do it again. =P
[05:13] <scrubb2000> I have that one too...
[05:13] <flaccid> why do you need to reboot
[05:14] <flaccid> wtf
[05:14] <scrubb2000> Dual-boot...I'm in XP right now.
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, he's on dual boot
[05:14] <flaccid> right
[05:14] <flaccid> well i need it
[05:14] <flaccid> to confirm stuff
[05:14] <flaccid> i would also recommend removing *network*manager*.deb
[05:15] <scrubb2000> flaccid, here's ifconfig -a: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16054/
[05:15] <flaccid> because networkmanager is shite and it was always not working - putting the iface up but not running dhcp
[05:15] <flaccid> and status of networkmanager?
[05:15] <scrubb2000> I don't have that right now.
[05:16] <flaccid> ah well
[05:16] <scrubb2000> sorry
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, if its a default install, its probably on there
[05:16] <dsmith__> how large is fiesty to download?
[05:16] <flaccid> well just fyi networkmanager was doing no dhcp for me
[05:16] <flaccid> on both edgy and dapper
[05:16] <scrubb2000> hmm
[05:16] <flaccid> and feisty
[05:16] <flaccid> so i removed
[05:17] <flaccid> i see no need for networkmanager
[05:17] <scrubb2000> flaccid, is dhclient part of network manager?
[05:17] <flaccid> i don't knwo what its point is
[05:17] <flaccid> scrubb2000: no its not
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, no its seperate
[05:17] <flaccid> !networkmanager
[05:17] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:17] <flaccid> !find networkmanager
[05:17] <ubotu> Found: knetworkmanager
[05:17] <flaccid> !info networkmanager
[05:17] <ubotu> Package networkmanager does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:17] <scrubb2000> I was running dhclient from konsole...that's what the first pastebin was from.
[05:17] <flaccid> !info network-manager
[05:17] <cblack0>  can someone point me to some docs/wiki/whatever on using adept to do a simple update of only already installed progs? or just info on adept and what all these checkboxes and buttons mean?
[05:17] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 222 kB, installed size 540 kB
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> !network-manager
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> dang
[05:18] <cblack0> I am trying to UPDATE only ALREADY INSTALLED packages (not install anything new)
[05:18] <flaccid> its optional but it seems to not be for some reason probably because of knetworkmanager
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, in konsole sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:19] <flaccid> scrubb2000: need this additional information plus removal of networkmanager plus pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces... otherwise i can't troubleshoot further.
[05:19] <cblack0> doesn't upgrade actually upgrade (move to new version?) working on understanding difference between update and upgrade
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, that will update everything that's currently installed
[05:19] <cblack0> also, I want to learn adept
[05:19] <flaccid> !adept > cblack0
[05:19] <flaccid> !repos > cblack0
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, kdesu adept_updater
[05:19] <flaccid> update gets list of updates. upgrade does the updates.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, that will open the adept version
[05:20] <scrubb2000> flaccid, OK.  Gimme a few minutes to get that stuff.
[05:20] <flaccid> thanks
[05:20] <scrubb2000> Oh, but first I have a question...how do I browse / in konqueror?
[05:20] <cblack0> ok, so adept is the full package manager, and adept_updater limits to just updates... sounds good
[05:20] <cblack0> flaccid: thanks
[05:20] <flaccid> scrubb2000: file manager profile from menu
[05:21] <flaccid> cblack0: pretty much :)
[05:22] <cblack0> !adept
[05:22] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:22] <scrubb2000> Anything else I should log or try while I'm in there?
[05:22] <mikess> frostwire
[05:23] <flaccid> scrubb2000: you could set it on a static ip address to confirm that its not another issue - that the network works when given the right addresses
[05:23] <cblack0> I'm new to apt but a longtime linux user (coming from slackware,redhat,suse). any great apt resources I should be looking at?
[05:23] <cblack0> seems easier to get answers in here than ubuntu, that channel is busy as hell
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:23] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> apt is rather complex in ways. :) but the basics are easy to get down.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> that apt-get howto is worth reading and the official apt docs as well.
[05:24] <cblack0> I'm on it. thanks
[05:24] <scrubb2000> flaccid, what's the command to do that?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> then theres a LOT of apt- related commands that do all sorts of neat things as well.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !info apt-file
[05:24] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, coming from those other distros, you're going to love it, trust me :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> thats one of my faves :)
[05:25] <cblack0> hitmanWilly: seems like it
[05:25] <flaccid> scrubb2000: its not a command. you edit /etc/network/interfaces to use static instead of dhcp
[05:25] <cblack0> we are thinking of moving our devel workstations to ubuntu...
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> cblack0, rpm's gave me all sorts of dependency problems all the time
[05:25] <scrubb2000> flaccid, then use ifconfig to restart eth0?
[05:25] <kalorin_> anyone else think kritta sucks
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I dont think thers a package management system that dosent have some problems. :) be it rpm based or others...
[05:26] <kalorin_> I've seen the thing crash opening a .jpg file tonight like 5 times
[05:26] <flaccid> im on a ubuntu workstation at work atm.
[05:26] <cblack0> I need to find a way to prevent a small list of packages from being updated when users run update. I don't know if I need to run a full mirror of a repo or I can just have a policy somewhere that says "java, ant and junit can only be updated to the versions specified here"
[05:26] <flaccid> well kubuntu
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> true enough
[05:26] <cblack0> I think that /might/ be "apt pinning"
[05:27] <Dr_willis> cblack0,  i think that sounds right. ive never used it.. just seen it mentioned in the apt docs befor
[05:27] <scrubb2000> alright, I'll be back in a little while.
[05:28] <mikess> Where the hell is feisty??
[05:28] <mikess> cmon ladies
[05:28] <mikess> hehe
[05:28] <Dr_willis> when its done. :)
[05:29] <DaSkreech> !feisty > mikess
[05:29] <Dr_willis> im using it now however. heh
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> mikess, in beta
[05:29] <mikess> I have both installed  and running well
[05:29] <DaSkreech> or the 19th whichever comes first
[05:29] <mikess> Installed ubuntu 1st then sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[05:30] <mikess> going well with updates
[05:30] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop  is proberly wath you want to install.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> I tend to install both ubuntu+kubuntu desktops as well
[05:30] <mikess> I like both 50/50
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> honestly, i can't stand gnome
[05:30] <Dr_willis> thers some gnome apps/tools i perfer to the kde equilivents
[05:31] <mikess> i must be the only one in the world that likes both
[05:31] <mikess> i=I
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> well, yes to that, but gnome itself just annoys me for some reason
[05:31] <DaSkreech> mikess: yeah that must be true
[05:31] <bill_> real quick: wha's the command to install mp3 support for amaroK
[05:31] <flaccid> i keep gnome handy, but dont' use it
[05:31] <cblack0> !mp3
[05:31] <bill_> wait, I'll answer my own question
[05:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <bill_> !mp3
[05:31] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > bill_
[05:32] <slestak> how do I uninstall the older kernel and module packages in kubuntu?  I have about 7 in grub now...
[05:32] <cblack0> see, I'm catching on to this ubuntu stuff already :)
[05:32] <bill_> lol, so am I
[05:32] <cblack0> only been installed an hour or so but I'm looking forward to getting into it
[05:32] <Dr_willis> slestak,  you could just edit the grub menu to only show the latest 2 or so :)
[05:32] <bill_> well, I just reinstalled
[05:32] <bill_> so I forgot how to do the mp3 enable
[05:32] <cblack0> sadly, I don't think we'll ever run it on our servers. Not until ISVs start supporting it and/or there is a much bigger QA dept or something
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> i like to keep a couple as backups, just in case :)
[05:33] <slestak> Dr_willis: i thought abt that, but do I still have the 30-40M for each release's packages installed.  The kernel modules packages are quite large
[05:33] <Dr_willis> slestak,  they are? never noticed.
[05:34] <slestak> Dr_willis: i dl them over a slow link, so yes, they are large :)
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, yeah, they are big, but it is a generic kernel
[05:35] <slestak> id like to keep maybe the last two kernel packages, but dont need the cruft of kernels im never gonna boot again
[05:35] <DaSkreech> cblack0: there is corporate support
[05:35] <cblack0> DaSkreech: corporate support != easily installable agents available for enterprise backup (for example)
[05:36] <DaSkreech> !backup
[05:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:36] <cblack0> not to mention they don't have much of a record for QA yet. We shall see.
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> slestak, you can pull them off with apt, linux-image-<kernel version>-<release version>-generic
[05:36] <cblack0> DaSkreech: there is no way we are having a separate backup for ubuntu systems that doesn't also integrate our windows servers, offsite rotation, and oracle
[05:37] <nu-> Anyone know how to change my irc password?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !password
[05:37] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[05:37] <cblack0> I respect ubuntu and like it, but I've been using linux in companies for awhile, and ubuntu isn't ready.
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[05:37] <nu-> ...
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !register
[05:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:37] <nu-> thank you
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> slestak i.e. sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic
[05:37] <cblack0> here is a good example, our SAN vendor isn't even THINKING about adding ubuntu to their compatibility matrix
[05:37] <kalorin_> cblack0: I agree but only because things like oracle say they wouldn't support it
[05:37] <kalorin_> same deal with debian
[05:37] <cblack0> exactly
[05:37] <kalorin_> I personally think it's pefectly ready
[05:38] <kalorin_> but you can't convince someone that it is until someone like oracle says they'll support it
[05:38] <cblack0> technically MAYBE, but all the other stuff isn't ready
[05:38] <kalorin_> what we do, is we just make an /etc/redhat-release file and pop it out there
[05:38] <kalorin_> and poof, we're running redhat for support purposes
[05:38] <cblack0> I also haven't seen a lot of SAN/multipath install info
[05:38] <flaccid> cblack0: what in particular is not ready
[05:39] <kalorin_> cblack0: the real thing that these companies should be saying they support is Version X of the kernel, and VERSION Z of the glibc stuff or whatever
[05:39] <kalorin_> other than that, nothing really matters  which package manager you use or what it's called
[05:39] <cblack0> flaccid: not sure yet, but I don't have as much faith in ubuntu's testing on stuff like FC SANs and multipath for instance.
[05:39] <kalorin_> it's all stupid to even argue about, I like my saturn you drive a jeep, mines better, no mine is
[05:39] <kalorin_> who cars
[05:39] <kalorin_> who cares
[05:39] <bill_> ok
[05:39] <cblack0> kalorin_: agreed. I would REALLY like to see LSB really be used/supported, but it isn't :(
[05:39] <bill_> here is a BIG question
[05:39] <flaccid> so there is no reason basically considering it uses packages from debian upstream
[05:40] <kalorin_> what's a FC SAN's?
[05:40] <bill_> I am installing the mp3 support
[05:40] <cblack0> fibre channel
[05:40] <kalorin_> our san at work just had an RPM I had to install
[05:40] <bill_> I have universe and multiverse ON
[05:40] <flaccid> its gnu linux... so um yeah
[05:40] <bill_> and it tells me there are unmet dependencies
[05:40] <bill_> it tell me to use "apt-get -f install"
[05:40] <bill_> however, last time I did that, it wiped my system
[05:40] <kalorin_> an that was a total pain in the ass because it required this exact version of the kernel 2.6.12-14 not -13 mind you, -14
[05:40] <kalorin_> it was a pain
[05:40] <cblack0> multipath is when the system has more than one path to the san and the kernel somehow needs to know that when it sees things twice, they aren't really two devices/LUNs
[05:40] <kalorin_> otherwise it was just a kernel module
[05:40] <kalorin_> cblack0: that's all kernel level stuff
[05:41] <kalorin_> doesn't matter what distribution
[05:41] <flaccid> exactly
[05:41] <cblack0> kalorin_: most enterprise distros HEAVILY test and modify that stuff it seems
[05:41] <flaccid> considering ubuntu uses recent kernels, i'm sure it meats the reqs.
[05:41] <kalorin_> either the kernel does it or it doesn't, doesn't matter if the kernel came from a rpm or a debian package on install
[05:41] <flaccid> cblack0: if you want something more stable, use debian
[05:41] <scrubb2000> flaccid, here's my interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16061/
[05:41] <kalorin_> meEts them too :)
[05:41] <scrubb2000> flaccid, dpkg says network-manager is not installed.
[05:42] <cblack0> look, I'm not saying I'm sure ubuntu isn't ready, I am just saying I don't have the faith in it yet. And that part is moot anyway as until our enterprise backup software installs and is supported we are unlikely to use it
[05:42] <kalorin_> I'm running kubuntu on my new desktop at work
[05:42] <flaccid> scrubb2000: dpkg -l | grep -i manager | grep -i network <-- anything?
[05:42] <kalorin_> we have Redhat EL 3, EL 4, and debian sarge boxes at work
[05:42] <cblack0> yep, we are likely to go to ubuntu for developers workstations
[05:42] <kalorin_> that we use HEAVILY
[05:42] <kalorin_> running a multibillion $ student loan stuff on it
[05:43] <flaccid> cblack0: thats fine, because i don't have faith in it as a server either.
[05:43] <kalorin_> oracle, informatica, cognos
[05:43] <kalorin_> ou name it
[05:43] <scrubb2000> flaccid, I typed dpkg -r network-manager
[05:43] <scrubb2000> and it said not installed.
[05:43] <scrubb2000> Didn't show up in adept either.
[05:43] <kalorin_> all linux of various distributions, they're now pushing to go to centos
[05:43] <flaccid> scrubb2000: ok np
[05:43] <DaSkreech> bill_: What has unmet dependices?
[05:43] <kalorin_> flaccid, I haven't tried a server install yet, but next iteration of my server here at home will get ubuntu without a doubt
[05:44] <kalorin_> it's running debian sarge right now
[05:44] <kalorin_> which is basically the same thing considering it doesn't run X
[05:44] <flaccid> yep
[05:44] <flaccid> i set up a debian server next to me here at work
[05:44] <flaccid> just for printing and wireless node of the network
[05:45] <flaccid> debian is more stable than ubuntu thats for sure
[05:45] <bill_> ok, I just ran the command it it fixed it
[05:45] <bill_> just last time I did, it removed all of my packages
[05:45] <flaccid> scrubb2000: do you want me to show you how to do static ip?
[05:45] <scrubb2000> flaccid, sure.
[05:45] <kalorin_> flaccid
[05:46] <kalorin_> how can you say that?
[05:46] <flaccid> ok
[05:46] <kalorin_> kernel 2.6.whatever is the same on either
[05:46] <kalorin_> libs are the same
[05:46] <kalorin_> hell they use the same packages
[05:46] <flaccid> um no
[05:46] <flaccid> its older and dif packages
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> kalorin_, ubuntu comes off the sid branch
[05:46] <flaccid> a lot of packages from debian upstream are changed for ubuntu which is why they become ubuntu packages
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> kalorin_, not the stable one
[05:47] <wolferine> anyone use Smarty with PHP ?
[05:47] <kalorin_> the only thing with this kubuntu box that I've noticed that's unstable is the way that it supports the ATI drivers under X
[05:47] <flaccid> wolferine: i prefer TBS :0
[05:47] <kalorin_> interesting, I didn't realize it was different at all
[05:47] <wolferine> let me look that up
[05:47] <cblack0> what is the QA team like for ubuntu? is there a paid testing team that checks all the changes/updates to debian upstream packages before they get added to the repo for the stable version?
[05:47] <martalli> kalorin_: Although the issue is really more of how ATI supports linux :=(
[05:47] <kalorin_> stability for me I've only noticed as an issue honestly when looking at software running on it that shouldn't like yahoo messenger and krita
[05:48] <cblack0> kalorin_: yeah, it is an ATI problem more than anything else
[05:48] <wolferine> flaccid, but have you used Smarty before?
[05:48] <cblack0> I have some odd hiccups on my dual-head ati machine at work
[05:48] <kalorin_> it seems to work fine if you fiddle iwth it long enough
[05:48] <flaccid> wolferine: only briefly long time ago, i can't really help
[05:48] <kalorin_> not sure what I did to make it work, but multihead on an x700 with a vga port and a DVI port and putting two screens side by side is a pain
[05:48] <wolferine> wasnt looking for help, just opinions
[05:49] <kalorin_> when X starts I have to go in nad tell it every time to strech the desktop and use xset to set DPMS settings
[05:49] <kalorin_> other than that it's solid
[05:49] <flaccid> kalorin_: also the defaults for userland etc. are dif on debian. the runtime config is vastly different
[05:49] <cblack0> I used the ati-provided setup tool with some args and got something that sticks. I have some odd flickers sometimes tho
[05:49] <scrubb2000> flaccid, I need to go soon...
[05:49] <flaccid> scrubb2000: and i need a million dollars. give me 1 min
[05:49] <scrubb2000> lol
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> brb
[05:50] <flaccid> static ip for eth0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16062/
[05:50] <DaSkreech> !torrent
[05:50] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:51] <scrubb2000> flaccid, ok thanks.  I'm going to go try it.
[05:51] <cedross> hello there
[05:51] <flaccid> ok
[05:52] <cedross> can someone answer a question for me
[05:52] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[05:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:52] <flaccid> !ask
[05:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:53] <cedross> how do I change the default program to open a certain type of file
[05:53] <flaccid> cedross: goto konqueror -> configure konq -> file associations
[05:53] <flaccid> in the settings menu
[05:54] <nonuda> how do i fix my dual boot, winblodze can't boot but kubuntu boots fine...
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !default
[05:54] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:54] <cedross> I tried to change the default .torrent program from Ktorrent to Azureus but it didn't  work it still opens with Ktorrnet
[05:55] <cedross> That is where I tried to make the change
[05:55] <flaccid> what program are you opening the file from?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> I'm betting firefox
[05:56] <flaccid> why does the firefox download manager open not work? hasn't worked on like dapper, edgy and feisty for me
[05:56] <flaccid> quite ghey
[05:57] <cedross> yes - firefox
[05:57] <flaccid> nothing happens when i click open or open folder
[05:57] <flaccid> how does firefox use associations, coz i don't know how to set them myself..
[05:57] <Shootfast> i get that too
[05:57] <flaccid> its quite annoying and unacceptable!
[05:57] <cedross> I guess I could just go to the site with Konqueror
[05:58] <nonuda> !grub
[05:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:58] <cblack0> !java
[05:58] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:58] <bobstro> erm... after i told it to use ktorrent, it did.
[05:59] <bobstro> in firefox, tell it to use Other... and navigate to it.
[06:00] <bobstro> isn't that working for you guys?
[06:00] <flaccid> where is this in firefox
[06:00] <bobstro> when you click something to download, it asks you what app to open it in, right?
[06:00] <bobstro> (e.g. click on a torrent)
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16063/
[06:01] <bobstro> flaccid: i just re-tested. it's pretty straightforward.
[06:01] <flaccid> not in firefox. nothing happens for me
[06:01] <bobstro> erm. something's broken in firefox then.
[06:01] <bobstro> you don't get anything?
[06:01] <flaccid> but why do you have to set any associations
[06:02] <bobstro> you don't. it uses a default, but you may want to change it.
[06:02] <flaccid> how can you get it to use the system instead or act with a prompt like opera does
[06:02] <bobstro> out of the box, it all works fine.
[06:02] <bobstro> it normally does. yours sounds broken.
[06:02] <flaccid> no it doesnt
[06:02] <flaccid> like i said it didn't for me on 3 releases of ubuntu
[06:02] <flaccid> a lot of peoples is broken
[06:02] <flaccid> download actions in firefox has no add button or default
[06:02] <bobstro> no problems here since firefox pre-1.0.
[06:03] <flaccid> and that doesn't fix the open folder either
[06:03] <nu-> where do i change themes in kubuntu?
[06:03] <bobstro> does it open anything at all?
[06:03] <flaccid> bobstro: the rest of the world does not use your installation..
[06:03] <bill_> ok, how do I convert rpm to deb?
[06:03] <flaccid> no it doesnt
[06:03] <bobstro> flaccid: nor yours, my friend.
[06:03] <cedross> I got it thanks for the help
[06:03] <cblack0> bill_: alien maybe? idunno how well it works
[06:03] <flaccid> then saying yours works its pointless...
[06:03] <bobstro> flaccid: i'll be happy to try to help if you quit acting like i'm the one f'ed up. mine works.
[06:03] <flaccid> yes but several other users have this same problem
[06:04] <flaccid> bobstro: im not acting like anything
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: so quit arguing with me and allow me to help. otherwise, i truly don't give a shit.
[06:04] <bobstro> flaccid: ok, have fun.
[06:04] <flaccid> forget about it, you can't fix it so no point in talking about it
[06:04] <bill_> !alien
[06:04] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM.   In addition it needs to be done ASAP
[06:07] <bill_> how do I compile a tar.gz?
[06:08] <nu-> pollyo: okies
[06:08] <bill_> yes, I know that there are files inside of it and that it is just like a zip file
[06:08] <nu-> id like to know where to change themes in KDE
[06:08] <bill_> but that doesnt answer my question
[06:08] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: His login password...was the same as the machine name.
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, PEBKAC
[06:08] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: PEBKAC?
[06:08] <cblack0> bill_: usually: tar zxvf file.tar.gz; cd newlyMadeDir; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, problem exists between keyboard and chair
[06:09] <TonyTone17> Kubuntu 6.10 live cd freezes while starting up and I can't get it booted. Can anyone help me?
[06:09] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: LOL
[06:09] <Shootfast> bill, untar the file to a folder
[06:10] <pollyo> If only I could figure out how to get his printer working,,,, Lexmark X6170 (#@#$@ Lexmark!)
[06:10] <bill_> k
[06:10] <nu-> where do i change themes in kubuntu?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> bill_, extract it somewhere, run ./configure, make, then make install is the usual way
[06:10] <Shootfast> exactly
[06:10] <pollyo> Anyone know an alternative driver that might work with a lexmark X6170? (USB connected)
[06:10] <TonyTone17> ide: failed opcode unknown
[06:10] <Shootfast> bill - have you got it now?
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> bill_, sometimes make install has to be run with sudo
[06:11] <bill_> think so
[06:11] <cblack0> bill_: usually: tar zxvf file.tar.gz; cd newlyMadeDir; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[06:11] <bill_> quick question...I've seen people put && in their commands
[06:11] <cblack0> semicolons are separate commands
[06:11] <bill_> is that for multiple commands in a row?
[06:11] <cblack0> bill_: that is so the second command only happens if the first one succeeds
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> bill_, it just strings commands together
[06:11] <cblack0> bill_: if you just want them all to happen w/o checking for success you can use semicolons
[06:11] <cblack0> easier to type :)
[06:12] <tinyx> How do I get the processes list?
[06:12] <cblack0> bill_: or if you want to see what you are doing or do ls or whatever between, just hit enter each time
[06:12] <cblack0> tinyx: ps aux
[06:13] <jtt> does anyone know how i can force my 1G ethernet card to 1000FDX
[06:13] <jtt> mii-tool only appears to go to  100FDX
[06:13] <tinyx> how do I end the processes?
[06:13] <tinyx> or a process
[06:13] <tinyx> I need to end Firefox, its being gay
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> tinyx, killall firefox
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> tinyx: sudo killall firefox-bin
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> and please don't use words like gay in a derogatory sense
[06:14] <cblack0> my ifconfig goes to 11
[06:14] <nu-> christ where is the theme manager in kubuntu?
[06:14] <cblack0> Admiral_Chicago: agreed about the gay thing btw
[06:14] <tinyx> thanks guys, it worked great.
[06:14] <tinyx> +10
[06:15] <bobstro> nu-:
[06:15] <bobstro> nu-: i found it in kcontrol
[06:15] <bill_> grr
[06:15] <bill_> ok, so this tarball doesnt even have the source
[06:15] <bill_> its an install script
[06:15] <bill_> and I guess flash 9 doesn't work with opera
[06:15] <bill_> for linux anyways
[06:15] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i thought it used to work for me.
[06:16] <nu-> bobstro: where is that?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> bill_, you won't find source for flash
[06:16] <bobstro> nu-: but very limited. otherwise, just change options under look & feel in control center.
[06:16] <bobstro> nu-: Kmenu->Run command->kcontrol
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> bill_, its extremely proprietary
[06:16] <bobstro> nu-: there's a story behind KDE & themes, but i don't recall the details. i thought they'd come back but apparently not.
[06:17] <nu-> bobstro: what do you mean comeback? they dont allow themes anymore/
[06:17] <bobstro> nu-: the "themes" option seems to have disappeared in system settings... some time ago. it's still in kcontrol.
[06:18] <cblack0> later all
[06:18] <nu-> bobstro: alright let me try and find
[06:18] <cblack0> thanks for the help
[06:18] <bobstro> nu-: but you'll probably be happer with the various look & feel options in system settings anyhow. there's probably some grand reason for it.
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> bobstro, for as long as kcontrol is included :)
[06:18] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, did flaccid leave?
[06:19] <nu-> bobstro: im a fan of milk themes. i just downloaded some that i'd like to see
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, what's up?
[06:19] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: is kcontrol not standard anymore either?
[06:19] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, forcing static IP didn't work either.
[06:19] <bill_> I wish I could get it to work on opera though
[06:20] <scrubb2000> This is why I keep giving up on linux.  There's always something critical that doesn't work.
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> bobstro, well, with the way they're hiding it, it appears to be headed that way
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, what did it do, anything?
[06:21] <bobstro> nu-: you may need to install kcontrol (it is a separate package) so look & feel is probably for the best.
[06:21] <scrubb2000> Nope.
[06:21] <scrubb2000> Ping still says "network unreachable"
[06:22] <Shinigami> Greets! Anyone here have some experience in setting up a Creative Zen Vision:M?  I'm trying to use Amarok (MTP ver).
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, can you boot into the livecd and see if it works on that?
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, if you have one, that is
[06:23] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly,  I'll try that...I have a liveDVD that I used to install.
[06:23] <scrubb2000> But I don't have any more time to futz with it tonight.
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> scrubb2000, if it does work, make a note of how it's set up, and try to config your settings to match
[06:24] <scrubb2000> hitmanwilly, will do.  Later.
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> later
[06:25] <neurovore> Hello, everybody...this is my first time on Konversation, so do not mind me. I am quite new to Kubuntu Linux, so I do not know how everthing works yet.
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, welcome aboard
[06:26] <neurovore> This is a bit of an embarrasing question...but...
[06:26] <Shinigami> Hi neurovore
[06:26] <Minataku> neurovore: Ask away. That's what we're all here for.
[06:26] <bobstro> neurovore: don't sweat it.
[06:27] <Minataku> Yeah, the *buntu community is far more forgiving
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> we all have to start somewhere
[06:27] <neurovore> I am trying to download stuff using adept manager, but half of the files that I am after give me a BREAK message and it will not let me.
[06:27] <Minataku> I mean, we'll still tell you off, but that's only if you're EXTREMELY lazy
[06:27] <Minataku> neurovore: That doesn't sound embarrasing to me... sounds like an interesting issue you're having
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, have you updated recently?
[06:28] <neurovore> To feisty fox?
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, do you see a little exclamation point thing on the right hand side of the panel?
[06:29] <neurovore> Hold on...
[06:29] <nonuda_> guys, i have dual boot kubuntu and xp, both works fine before, but sudenlly now xp won't boot!, when i tried to boot xp, grub show me only "starting up" and a blinking cursor, it seems grub can't find xp kernel or anything to need xp boot..
[06:29] <neurovore> No.
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, open up konsole
[06:30] <neurovore> Done.
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, type in : sudo apt-get update
[06:31] <neurovore> There.
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, now sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, this is updating your system
[06:32] <kalorin_> heh dual boot
[06:32] <kalorin_> why?
[06:32] <neurovore> Hold on a moment...Konsole gave me an error message...
[06:32] <neurovore> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                                           able)
[06:32] <neurovore> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                           ess using it?
[06:32] <kalorin_> anyone used xen?
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, close adept
[06:33] <kalorin_> very seriously considering xen
[06:33] <neurovore> Now it works
[06:33] <kaner_> is there anyway to keep konqueror from prompting for the password while connecting to an SFTP resources after the SSH key has already been setup.
[06:33] <kalorin_> rather than vmware
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, adept locks out the package management system
[06:34] <kalorin_> adept is a graphical apt-get front end, which in turn is a CLI front end for dpkg
[06:34] <kalorin_> any of those will lock it
[06:34] <kalorin_> if you try to do more than 1 at a time
[06:34] <dsmith__> I dont dual boot
[06:34] <dsmith__> I backup windows and run it in a vmware session
[06:34] <neurovore> Okay...I typed in sudo apt-get upgrade and got this...
[06:34] <neurovore> Reading package lists... Done
[06:34] <neurovore> Building dependency tree
[06:34] <neurovore> Reading state information... Done
[06:34] <neurovore> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:34] <kalorin_> dsmith I do too
[06:34] <bill_> whats the name of the package for JRE? is it just JRE?
[06:34] <kalorin_> but I've been reading that this xen deal is smokin
[06:35] <kalorin_> glibjava or soemthing such
[06:35] <dsmith__> xen, hmmm. I dont know
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> neurowave, ok, your system is up to date
[06:35] <kalorin_> just search for java in adept
[06:35] <kalorin_> dsmith, they're claiming like 95% performance for host OS's
[06:35] <dsmith__> JRE 1.5 i think, something like that
[06:35] <dsmith__> hmmmm'
[06:35] <kalorin_> yeah
[06:35] <kalorin_> that's what I said
[06:35] <kalorin_> hmmm
[06:35] <dsmith__> lol
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, what in adept is giving you break messages?
[06:36] <neurovore> Firefox for one thing...
[06:36] <kalorin_> actually i said, um... wow!
[06:36] <kalorin_> and I might have said... great googly mooglys!
[06:37] <dsmith__> i am on the website for xen
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> neurovore: ok, run this: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:37] <dsmith__> kalorin I am on 3xen
[06:38] <kalorin_> 3xen/
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, when/if it comes back with an error, post it in pastebin
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> !paste | neurovore
[06:38] <ubotu> neurovore: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <Cosmo_> someone gave me a command earlier but I forgot to write it down for installing the .deb file for my brother FAX1840c printer drives
[06:39] <dsmith__> no alternate room
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Cosmo_, dpkg -i?
[06:39] <Cosmo_> hitmanWilly: thats the one
[06:39] <kalorin_> Paravirtualization Provides Near-Native Performance
[06:39] <kalorin_> Xens paravirtualization technology is widely acknowledged as the fastest and most secure virtualization software in the industry. Xen offers near-native performance for virtual servers with up to 10 times less overhead than proprietary offerings, and benchmarked overhead of well under 5% in most cases compared to 35% or higher overhead rates for other virtualization technologie
[06:39] <kalorin_> that's what I foudn exciting
[06:39] <dsmith__> kalorin got #3xen
[06:39] <dsmith__> *goto
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> Cosmo_, sudo dpkg -i <nameOfPackage>.deb
[06:40] <dsmith__> !offtopic
[06:40] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:40] <vit_> hola
[06:40] <neurovore> Okay...here is what I got...
[06:40] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16064/
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:42] <Shinigami> night all *wave*
[06:43] <vit_> perrassssssssssssss
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, did that return anything?
[06:44] <neurovore> No.
[06:45] <neurovore> I just got the command prompt again.
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, try sudo apt-get install libmyspell3c2
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, paste the output of that in pastebin please
[06:47] <rodrigo> hola, aguien me puede ayudar con BIND
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> !es | rodrigo
[06:48] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:48] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16065/
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, this will bring up a text file in a text editor
[06:50] <Cosmo_> ok this is going to drive me nuts, my printer (brother intellifax 1840C) is not listed when I try to install a printer, and the only drivers I have been able to find are the lpr and cups drivers on the brother website but nothing I seem to do installs them
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, is it open?
[06:51] <underdog5004> how do I delete a directory that isn't empty?
[06:51] <neurovore> It opened sources.list - kate
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> ok, now go down and remove the #s in front of every line that starts with deb
[06:52] <sticksabuser> Cosmo_: so you tried to use the add printer wizard already?
[06:52] <pollyo> I'm going to reinstall my ubuntu on my uncles computer tomorrow.  If I leave room for windows to be installed will there be any problem installing windows after linux?
[06:52] <underdog5004> pollyo, you'll have to reinstall grub, since windows writes over the MBR
[06:52] <neurovore> You mean the "s" in "src"?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, no s as in all of the # in front of the deb lines
[06:53] <Cosmo_> sticksabuser: yep, my printer is listed nowhere in the wizard and none of the .deb files seem to be ones the wizard will accept
[06:53] <pollyo> underdog5004: Ok  Does the installation give you the option of using grub?  I do not recall.
[06:53] <underdog5004> pollyo, I don't think so
[06:53] <Red_Tear> hmm
[06:53] <underdog5004> grub is the only option
[06:53] <Red_Tear> I got a problem i guess
[06:53] <kaner_> is there anyway to keep konqueror from prompting for the password while connecting to an SFTP resources after the SSH RSA key has already been setup.
[06:53] <sticksabuser> underdog5004: rm -rf "directorypath"
[06:54] <anees> hi...i want to search a folder in ubuntu...how i can do it..plz help me
[06:54] <Red_Tear> my Computer makes some unusual noise
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, once that's done, save and close
[06:54] <Red_Tear> klick
[06:54] <pollyo> underdog5004: After I install windows (when he finds his CD) will I have to do anything to reactive the linux startup?
[06:54] <underdog5004> sticksabuser, lol, thanks...I just read the man page
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, let me know when you finish
[06:55] <Red_Tear> sounds like it came from the HD to me... even if nothing is using the HD at the moment... it have stopped now... hmm
[06:55] <pollyo> underdog5004: or make it recognize that windows is also installed?
[06:55] <underdog5004> pollyo, I'm not sure  about the command...I think it's grub-reinstall
[06:55] <Red_Tear> and much things whas going slow this moment... now again
[06:55] <underdog5004> but you have to boot from a livecd to run that command. Grub will see the windows partition as well as the linux one.
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, make sure its just the lines that start with deb or deb-src
[06:55] <pollyo> underdog5004: Ok
[06:55] <Red_Tear> and it sounds like its rotating fast... but the light diode in front of my tower dont show anything accessing the HD
[06:56] <pollyo> underdog5004: Any idea if windows like a specific area on the hard drive?
[06:56] <Red_Tear> but just sometimes
[06:56] <Minataku> Red_Tear: The HDD should always be spinning when the system is on, unless it's using powersaving
[06:56] <Red_Tear> oh ok
[06:57] <Minataku> Usually that won't kick in for at least 20-60 minutes, though
[06:57] <anees> i want to search a folder in ubuntu...how i can do it...tell me the command..plz help me
[06:57] <neurovore> Is this what you mean? Before....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16066/ After...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16068/
[06:57] <Red_Tear> and what about thes clicking sound? is it gonna be broken?
[06:57] <Lynoure> anees: based on name? or something else?
[06:57] <Lynoure> anees: anyway, see   man find
[06:58] <Lynoure> anees: in some cases  locate  can also do it
[06:58] <anees> based on name
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, no, just the lines that start with deb or deb-src, leave the rest of the # in
[06:59] <Lynoure> anees: then I'd start with   locate namehere  but that also gives you files in the path, you'll see :)
[06:59] <neurovore> Hold on...
[06:59] <Red_Tear> Minataku: and what about thes clicking sound? is it gonna be broken?
[07:01] <Minataku> Red_Tear: This ticking, is it a constant ticking whenever the drive is spinning?
[07:01] <Minataku> At a constant rate?
[07:05] <neurovore> hitmanWilly...like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16070/
[07:05] <underdog5004> sweet, I just installed jinzora, and I'm loving it!
[07:05] <kalorin_> minataku, yeah I get that too
[07:05] <kalorin_> the ticking of the drive all the time
[07:05] <kalorin_> like a little miniwrite
[07:05] <kalorin_> every 3-4 seconds
[07:05] <Minataku> kalorin_: That could be a bad sign
[07:06] <kalorin_> I can't decide if something is logging or what
[07:06] <kalorin_> I've got the smart stuff installed I guess I shoudl figure out how to make it report
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, put the ## in front of where it says "Uncomment" as well
[07:06] <Minataku> If something is accessing it, then it's normal
[07:06] <kalorin_> hell, I can never tell what all is going on anymore
[07:06] <Minataku> If it's always clicking, like, from the second it spins up, get to replacing it ASAP
[07:06] <kalorin_> oh no
[07:06] <kalorin_> only after X is started and running
[07:06] <kalorin_> it's not in swap cause I've turned swap off and it's still doing it
[07:07] <Minataku> Oh, in that case you're probably fine
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, as well as the line that starts "Major"
[07:09] <kalorin_> nice
[07:09] <kalorin_> samsung HD400LJ, 400gb SATA drive, does not support smart
[07:09] <neurovore> hitmanwilly...like this?
[07:09] <neurovore>  1
[07:09] <neurovore>  2
[07:09] <neurovore>  3
[07:09] <neurovore>  4
[07:09] <kalorin_> though for sure it would when I bought it
[07:09] <neurovore> sorry...accidentally did that.
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> :)
[07:10] <neurovore> Here is what I mean to do...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16073/
[07:11] <dsmith__> kalorin: you should put some type of restricted access on your box man
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, put the ## in front of the two places it says repository too, missed that last time
[07:12] <kalorin_> dsmith?
[07:12] <kalorin_> you mean the photo stuff?
[07:13] <dsmith__> alot of it yea
[07:13] <kalorin_> it's something I've considered
[07:13] <kalorin_> it was never meant to be eveything I've ever taken
[07:13] <dsmith__> I would if I wee you
[07:13] <kalorin_> kind of got that way though
[07:13] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16074/
[07:13] <dsmith__> well I goto go
[07:13] <dsmith__> cya room
[07:13] <kalorin_> it'll likely go away sometime soon to be replaced with a flick
[07:13] <kalorin_> flickr account or something such
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, crap, one more, where it says "distribution"
[07:15] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16075/
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> neurovore: ok, that got it
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, save that and exit kate
[07:16] <wolferine> what is the most effective way for looking for a single file on your system? (sudo locate file.exe)
[07:16] <neurovore> There.
[07:16] <kalorin_> wolferine: man find
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, now sudo apt-get update
[07:17] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16076/
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, must have missed a line in sources.list, ok,i see it, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <wolferine> kalorin_>thanks
[07:19] <me2win> did somebody sa my name?
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, about 20 lines down where it says "repository", ## that
[07:19] <fakepatriot> !cedega
[07:19] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:21] <neurovore> There...I added ## saved the changes and typed in sudo-apt get update...and got this...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16077/
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, that's what it should look like
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone played with Xen whom can expalin how to make an image from an iso
[07:23] <neurovore> I got the same error message as before...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16078/
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, hold on a sec...
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> !find libmyspell3c2
[07:25] <ubotu> Found: libmyspell3c2
[07:25] <neurovore> type that in Konsole?
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, no
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> im checking something
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> !info libmyspell3c2
[07:26] <ubotu> libmyspell3c2: MySpell spellchecking library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1-16 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !xen
[07:26] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, ok, sudo apt-get install libmyspell3c2
[07:27] <neurovore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16079/
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> well, im at a loss here
[07:29] <neurovore> Hmmm...
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, did you install the regular version of kubuntu?
[07:31] <neurovore> I went with 6.10 edgy eft.
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, or are you running an unusual setup, like a mac or something?
[07:33] <neurovore> I do not think so...this is a PC that I am on....however, I get internet through my ethernet port at a university...that might have something to do with it.
[07:33] <neurovore> I am not sure if they have some sort of setup in the university server that prevents me from doing this.
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, it feels like it can't download from one of the repositories
[07:34] <ybott> Question.  I plugged my zip drive into my comptuer.   How do I mount it and where did it go?
[07:35] <neurovore> Could my university's firewall possibly be blocking this from happening?
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, i don't see why it would
[07:35] <ybott> When I plugged it up, it asked me what I wanted to do I clicked open in new window, but nothing happened.
[07:36] <neurovore> I see...
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> neurovore, but there's no real way to be sure without acess to the settings
[07:36] <ybott> hitmanWilly: Any idea?
[07:38] <fannagoganna> hi, i have a problem with CUPS configuration. I have an /etc/cups/client.conf file with proper permissions (644)
[07:38] <neurovore> Is there anything that anybody would suggest?
[07:38] <hitmanWilly> ybott, not sure what device a zip disk sits on...
[07:39] <fannagoganna> When I go to the kcontrol module as a USER and choose the cups print system, it looks only for the server (it does not appear to recognize that I have set up the computer a cups client). However, when I change the printer configuration as ROOT it does -- I can see the printers located on another cups server.
[07:40] <fannagoganna> My question: Why the different behavior when I have set up my Ubuntu 6.10 system as a cups client?
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> ybott, normally the command would be mount /dev/<deviceName> /mnt/zipdrive
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> ybott, i just don't know what <deviceNape> would be
[07:40] <ybott> hmm ok
[07:40] <ybott> i cant seem to find any documentation on it either
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> well, everyone, i really need to get some sleep, c y'all later
[07:41] <neurovore> Goodbye.
[07:41] <vinces1979> ybott: http://www.linux.com/howtos/ZIP-Drive-6.shtml
[07:42] <neurovore> On a different note...does anybody know how to format a SATA hard drive through linux?
[07:43] <kalorin_> sure
[07:43] <kalorin_> mkfs
[07:43] <fannagoganna_> sorry, never mind.
[07:43] <fannagoganna_> fixed the problem
[07:43] <kalorin_> mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sd<driverletter><partition>
[07:43] <bobstro> neurovore: you've created partitions already?
[07:43] <kalorin_> you'll likely want to fdisk it first fdisk /dev/sd<driveletter><partition>
[07:44] <neurovore> What I am trying to do...is that I have two hard drives. One of them has linux on it, and is a parallel drive. The other drive is a SATA drive with nothing on it.
[07:45] <fannagoganna_> neurovore, what do you want to do?
[07:45] <neurovore> I just want to format the SATA drive so that it shows up on the desktop and so that I can use it for storage.
[07:45] <fannagoganna_> ah, first do fdisk on that hard drive
[07:45] <kalorin_> it's likely sda
[07:45] <kalorin_> or /dev/sda rather
[07:46] <fannagoganna_> then make the file system -- something like mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[07:46] <kalorin_> or you could just do ti via the GUI tools
[07:46] <fannagoganna_> or mkfs.reiserfs if you want a "killer" filesystem :)
[07:46] <kalorin_> but what fun is that?
[07:46] <neurovore> Hold on...type fdisk in Konsole?
[07:46] <fannagoganna_> yup
[07:46] <kalorin_> if by killer you mena it dies and someone kills you for the data loss that is :)
[07:46] <bobstro> neurovore: cfdisk is a bit friendlier
[07:47] <kalorin_> or you can use that pull down menu dealy
[07:47] <fannagoganna_> no, i mean that Hans Reiser is looking for the real killer
[07:47] <kalorin_> system settings -> advanced -> disks and file systems
[07:48] <neurovore> Okay...I am in the disks and filesystems area.
[07:48] <kalorin_> it's pretty windowz from there
[07:49] <ybott> vinces1979: Hey thanks, that helped, got it working.
[07:49] <neurovore> I have never done this in Windows either.
[07:52] <neurovore> My computer refers to the SATA drive as "Disk ATA".
[07:54] <neurovore> Do I have to tell Linux to format it?
[07:55] <Davor> the knetworkmanager was fixed?
[07:56] <neurovore> knetworkmanager?
[07:56] <Davor> yes
[07:56] <Davor> neurovore: doesn't work for wireless conecctions
[07:56] <neurovore> Oh.
[07:57] <Davor> yes
[07:57] <Davor> :/
[07:57] <neurovore> So that is why I could not get firefox?
[07:58] <Davor> mmm
[07:58] <Davor> my knetworkmanager can't search wireless networks
[07:59] <chemicalvamp> Davor it isnt connecting automaticly?
[08:01] <Davor> chemicalvamp: nop,
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> edgy?
[08:02] <Davor> doesn't scan any network
[08:02] <Davor> 7.04 beta
[08:02] <neurovore> Goodnight...I have to go, but I will be back tomorrow.
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> so feisty then
[08:03] <chemicalvamp> type in "iwlist wlan0 scanning
[08:03] <Davor> works
[08:03] <Davor> scan my wireless networks
[08:05] <Davor> chemicalvamp: the ketworkmanager isn't work now?
[08:08] <Davor> jejej
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> wel can you at least connect with it?
[08:10] <Davor> chemicalvamp: Yes Ican.
[08:10] <Davor> manually I can...
[08:10] <Davor> but the last week my knetworkmanager works
[08:19] <bill_k> hello
[08:19] <bill_k> ping?
[08:21] <Asasin> Hello.
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> bill_k: pong.
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> can't really help your issue though
[08:21] <bill_k> gah
[08:21] <bill_k> i know
[08:22] <Asasin> I had a quick installation question about Kubuntu
[08:22] <bill_k> just you.. :( lol
[08:22] <bill_k> ;)
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !bluetooth
[08:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:22] <bill_k> Admiral_Chicago: tried that first
[08:22] <bill_k> mine is weird, they pair + connect through hardware buttons
[08:22] <bill_k> on the adapter
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the best I got
[08:22] <bill_k> ok, thx
[08:23] <Asasin> Is it possible to mount the installer disc for Kubuntu on a thumbdrive or SD memory chip, then use that to format an older laptop and install Kubuntu on it?
[08:23] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[08:25] <bill_k> Asasin: I may be wrong, but older computers don't all support boot to usb
[08:25] <bill_k> xubuntu may be better also, don't you have a cd drive?
[08:26] <Asasin> Well it's not too old...
[08:26] <Asasin> And it supports booting to a removable drive... which granted isn't explicitly USB or memory chip
[08:26] <Asasin> The CD ROM drive is busted
[08:26] <Asasin> I was just looking for a quick fix for my computer, I was going to get one in a couple of months but I don't want to go that long without a comp you know?
[08:27] <Shootfast> Asasin: Theoretically yes, but as they said, older pcs dont boot from usb
[08:27] <osiris> some will boot from a network
[08:28] <osiris> but that may bea little more complicated than you are looking for
[08:28] <Asasin> Hm...
[08:28] <Asasin> Well it would be worth a shot. And how do you boot from a network? I have another computer I could maybe use to do it.
[08:29] <osiris> read up on (i think its called ) PXE booting
[08:29] <osiris> never done it myself
[08:30] <bill_k> can anyone point me in the right direction for bluetooth supprot?
[08:30] <bill_k> support* ?
[08:30] <Asasin> Wow that's a lot of information. Well, I'll try this out first with the memory chip and go from there I guess.
[08:31] <bill_k> oh god, pxe booting :)
[08:34] <Asasin> pxe mindoverloading -_-
[08:35] <Shootfast> Asasin: can you dock the notebook?
[08:36] <Asasin> Dock it?
[08:36] <chemicalvamp> is there a command for using apt-get to download (not install) to a certain directory?
[08:36] <Shootfast> Asasin: As in is there a dock made for your laptop that has a cd drive
[08:37] <Asasin> I don't believe so. I've an external DVD ROM burner that should function as a CD ROM device (I thought, anyway), but my laptop won't even recognize it when plugged in.
[08:43] <kraut> moin
[08:44] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[08:45] <jbrouhard> Okay, why won't iwconfig eth1 essid "myaccesspoint" work ?  I keep trying that command (yes, with sudo in front) but it won't keep the settings...
[08:51] <underdog5004> I'm trying to compile libtorrent 0.11.4, but when I sudo ./configure, I get: Checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old. Make sure it is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full path to pkg-config.  I have no idea...will anyone help me?
[08:59] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, you around?
[09:02] <flaccid> who here has heard and/or uses KHelpCenter for doco ?
[09:02] <underdog5004> nope
[09:05] <flaccid> help:/kubuntu/
[09:05] <reydelsillon> hi. anyone know the name of a program that i can get all partitions mounted automaticaly?
[09:05] <reydelsillon> i used one under ubuntu-gnome.. but now im using K-ub
[09:06] <bill_k> how many partitions do you have?
[09:06] <underdog5004> hmm, ok, I installed pkg-config to help w/ my problem, now I'm still getting the error, but it says that I don't have openssl installed. I do. What can I do?
[09:07] <reydelsillon> bill_k: i got 3 partitions. swap, ext3 and ntfs.
[09:07] <bill_k> ok
[09:07] <reydelsillon> and a ide Hd that i cant see.
[09:08] <bill_k> !fstab | reydelsillon
[09:08] <ubotu> reydelsillon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:08] <reydelsillon> reading :)
[09:09] <bill_k> hope it helps
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: sorry in bed
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> just saw it when I got up to use the restroom
[09:09] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, bummer...I'm having trouble compiling...
[09:09] <underdog5004> nvm, sleep well
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[09:10] <bill_k> reydelsillon: not an official guide, but http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[09:19] <flaccid> reydelsillon: its in system settings -> advanced - disk & filesystems
[09:26] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found