[14:06] <LocutusOfBorg> sforshee, I uploaded a new virtualbox 6.0.8-dfsg-6build1 in the archive... can you please check again?
[14:09] <sforshee> LocutusOfBorg: sure, when it's done building I'll give it a try
[14:34] <LocutusOfBorg> sforshee, i386 is already good
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg> sforshee, you now have your binaries!
[14:53] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/6.0.8-dfsg-6build1/+build/16837271/+files/virtualbox-guest-dkms_6.0.8-dfsg-6build1_all.deb
[15:10] <sforshee> LocutusOfBorg: ack, will test
[15:12] <sforshee> LocutusOfBorg: that one builds with 5.2, thanks!
[15:14] <LocutusOfBorg> nice thanks to you


[11:01] <slangasek> chiluk: yes, the meeting was cancelled on the calendar
[15:44] <chiluk> slangasek I don't pay attention to those pesky event updates.... too much e-mail already


[03:30] <Gaddel> i have an elantech touchpad that is not recognized at all by xubuntu. it just says "ps/2 generic mouse". i've tried a bunch of fixes to no avail. running the latest kernel
[03:40] <holstein> Gaddel: fixes?
[03:40] <holstein> whats broken? you want to add functionality? you should be able to add a custom xorg.conf or other ways to force-add what you want
[03:42] <Gaddel> sorry. "synclient -l" says "no synaptics drivers loaded"
[03:42] <Gaddel> holstein: and xinput list lists the device as a "PS/2 Generic Mouse"
[03:42] <Gaddel> holstein: i'd like to enable two touch scrolling and such
[03:46] <well_laid_lawn> it might not be a synaptics touchpad
[03:46] <well_laid_lawn> might be alps or something
[03:47] <Gaddel> well_laid_lawn: it's elantech
[03:47] <Gaddel> well_laid_lawn: i can't modify it with gpointing-device-settings or anything
[03:48] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know anything about that but let's check on the web
[03:50] <well_laid_lawn> Gaddel: does   dmesg | grep elantech   return anything?
[03:53] <Gaddel> well_laid_lawn: one sec
[03:55] <well_laid_lawn> here's an option - "create /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf and add the line: options psmouse force_elantech=1"
[04:01] <holstein> Gaddel: maybe http://l0ner.github.com/blog/20120319_2305-Elantech_touchpad_linux/ will help ..or a page like it
[04:04] <Gaddel> i tried creating a config
[04:04] <Gaddel> in /usr/share/X11 named 50-elantech.conf
[04:04] <Gaddel> now the cursor does not work at all
[04:04] <Gaddel> what should i do?
[04:05] <well_laid_lawn> remove that config, check the X log
[04:05] <Gaddel> how can i open my terminal without a cursor?
[04:05] <Gaddel> what should i press
[04:06] <well_laid_lawn> you might have to go to a tty
[04:06] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+alt+F2
[04:06] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+alt+F7 to get back
[04:07] <Gaddel> thanks
[04:07] <Gaddel> i got it
[04:07] <Gaddel> where is the X log?
[04:07] <well_laid_lawn>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:07] <well_laid_lawn> I'd use  'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[04:08] <well_laid_lawn> pgdown to scroll and q to quit
[04:10] <Gaddel> hm
[04:10] <Gaddel> can't find anything out of the ordinary
[04:10] <Gaddel> how far back does it go?
[04:10] <Gaddel> does it persist on reboot?
[04:10] <well_laid_lawn> the X log? just for the current session
[04:11] <well_laid_lawn> there's a Xorg.0.log.old for the last session
[04:11] <Gaddel> thanks
[04:17] <well_laid_lawn> handy tip no8
[04:17] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[04:22] <CJ_> hi
[04:25] <well_laid_lawn> !hi
[04:26] <well_laid_lawn> bots a bit slow...
[04:39] <CJ_> hi
[04:40] <CJ_> im new to ubuntu
[04:40] <sagaci> CJ_, great
[07:14] <ms_> hi people! what is the package to install. I want to get a localdictionarie "english-easyEnglish"
[07:56] <ms_> eh oh! the package for english dictionarie.
[08:02] <well_laid_lawn> ms_: have a look at aspell or hunspell
[08:02] <rhin0> synaptic
[08:03] <rhin0> search for "english dictionary"
[08:03] <rhin0> plenty there
[08:03] <ms_> ahh, ok. :)
[08:04] <rhin0> menu : applications -> system -> synaptic package manager (on xubuntu 10.04)
[08:47] <xubuntu893> Hi
[08:49] <xubuntu893> I need help with drivers for my DIN keyboard (old jack). Could anybody help me?
[08:50] <half-duplex> does it even need drivers?
[08:51] <xubuntu893> yes, xubuntu can't find this keyboard
[08:51] <xubuntu893> i don't know why
[08:52] <half-duplex> no idea
[08:53] <xubuntu893> I've already found answer for usage old com-mouse drivers... but in this case i've no idea too ((
[08:54] <well_laid_lawn> I'd check what dmesg says in a terminal when you plug it in
[08:56] <ms_> a package to install; to read *.docx(other than openOffice) please...
[08:57] <xubuntu893> I run it with iso image disk already installed, I have to find 50% of answer before asking in this chat. I'm not so advanced linux user, sorry
[13:28] <qasim> hello
[13:29] <GridCube> !hi | qasim
[13:29] <qasim> hi Grid
[13:29] <qasim> Finally i managed to install xubuntu..yay
[13:31] <GridCube> :D
[13:31] <GridCube> congrats
[13:32] <qasim> thanks
[13:33] <qasim> i had to fully format my HDD to intall it properly
[13:33] <GridCube> :/ thats unfortunate
[13:33] <qasim> but worth it!
[13:33] <qasim> yeah
[13:34] <GridCube> :)
[13:37] <qasim> which office application do you guys recommend to install?
[13:38] <baizon> qasim: libreoffice
[13:38] <qasim> right
[13:38] <knome> qasim, depends on your needs. abiword is a good and light word processsor, gnumeric for spreadsheet editing
[13:39] <knome> !best
[13:39] <knome> ^ that
[13:39] <qasim> well i get lot of things to do in word
[13:39] <GridCube> ^ what knome said
[13:39] <knome> that message is a bit harsh...
[13:39] <qasim> somewhat extensive office user
[13:40] <knome> maybe see if abiword can do it for you first
[13:40] <knome> you can always install libreoffice later :)
[13:40] <knome> if you need a complete office suite, then libreoffice is your choice though
[13:40] <GridCube> or you can do it now and test it first, what ever rocks your boat
[13:40] <qasim> you have point knome
[13:41] <qasim> well no rocking of boat..i just wanna float my boat lol
[13:47] <qasim> can i make NTFS partitions with gparted?
[13:48] <GridCube> sure
[13:48] <knome> unless you really need an ntfs partition, i wouldn't create one though
[13:49] <knome> afaik, ntfs support still isn't optimal in linux
[13:50] <TheSheep> that's an understatement :)
[13:51] <knome> well, i know nothing of that, so i'll leave accurate estimations for others
[13:51] <qasim> hmm right
[13:51] <knome> i can't remember the last time i saw an ntfs partition
[13:52] <knome> ('saw' in abstract sense)
[13:52] <qasim> lol
[13:53] <qasim> if i have to make any partition which type do you recommend?
[13:55] <GridCube> ext4
[13:58] <qasim> okay
[13:58] <qasim> ty folks
[13:58] <qasim> got to go now
[13:58] <qasim> bye
[14:44] <userzerox> I'm trying to install CoverGloobus from .tar.gz file. When i try run ./configure i get this error configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub
[14:45] <knome> userzerox, you should refer to the instructions of overgloobus
[14:45] <knome> userzerox, maybe installing build-essential helps
[14:45] <knome> userzerox, but i'd suppose you have that already since you are building
[14:46] <userzerox> knome: Thanks for you reply. Did you mean Wiki page ?
[14:46] <knome> userzerox, i don't know covergloobus - just any instructions they have for installing
[14:47] <userzerox> knome: Thanks
[14:48] <knome> np
[15:54] <GridCube> can someone explain me what this is saying? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427789/
[15:55] <GridCube> pdf2txt works on other pdfs but when i try to use it over www.sti.nasa.gov/thesvol1.pdf this file its says that
[15:55] <knome> pdf is broken?
[15:56] <baizon> GridCube: can you access the pdf?
[15:56] <holstein> GridCube: others fromt he same source? wonder if theres a way to "lock" a pdf to keep it from becoming text...
[15:57] <GridCube> knome, no the pdf is ok,
[15:57] <GridCube> baizon, yes
[15:58] <GridCube> holstein, evince says it doesnt have security
[15:58] <GridCube> holstein, i dont have other pdfs from the same source to check
[15:58] <baizon> GridCube: maybe some symbol that cant be read
[15:59] <GridCube> :/ maybe its too big 1107 pages
[15:59] <holstein> GridCube: im just proposing there might be something nasa does either intentional or not to lock it.. but the error makes me think ots more what baizon is getting at.. a character or symbol that cant be translated or whatever
[16:00] <GridCube> mmmm i see
[16:00] <GridCube> let me see the man pdf2tx
[16:00] <knome> GridCube, you could try to split the pdf to separate pdf files first
[16:01] <GridCube> i see
[16:02] <GridCube> using -p 1,2 rises the same problem
[16:03] <userzerox> Need Help! Please help me install this! I have downloaded all the necessary files.bigrza.deviantart.com/art/NotifyConky-Desktop-175447919
[16:04] <userzerox> Oops! Wrong link.. Here's the correct one http://bigrza.deviantart.com/art/NotifyConky-Desktop-175447919
[16:04] <holstein> userzerox: bad link for me
[16:05] <GridCube> using -d for more debug it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427813/
[16:05] <userzerox> holstein: Please check the new link
[16:05] <GridCube> i see 'Encrypt" there, could that be it?
[16:05] <holstein> userzerox: i have something like that.. you should have a conky config file.. you install conky, drop in the config and start conky
[16:06] <holstein> userzerox: i use "conky" from a terminal to start and test conky.. then when i get it the way i want, i use "conky &"
[16:07] <holstein> userzerox: you can elaborate as to what you need help with
[16:07] <userzerox> I have downloaded all files. Including conky files. I couldn't install covergloobus from .tar.gz file. Please check this question i have posted. https://answers.launchpad.net/covergloobus/+question/216600
[16:08] <knome> userzerox, have you installed 'build-essential' ?
[16:08] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/239042 is what my conky looks like userzerox
[16:09] <knome> userzerox, and/or have you read the reply to your question?
[16:10] <userzerox> knome: Oops. I checked back like 15 mins ago & there was no reply. I'm checking now. Thanks
[16:10] <userzerox> holstein: I'm trying the same.
[16:25] <K1rk> Would anyone happen to have any input on my LightDM question?  ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092461
[16:39] <Nanoflaxx>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Nanoflaxx djqaksdzfpny
[16:39] <Nanoflaxx> leaving
[17:04] <holstein> userzerox: none of the volunteers here create or maintain covergloobus... what are you trying to do with it? what errors are you getting? what does the readme file say it needs to work?
[17:22] <userzerox> hostein: I'm just trying to get conky running! I had some errors while installing covergloobus. It's working now :) Thanks for your time & reply.
[17:33] <xubuntu433> i have a large rooster
[17:34] <knome> xubuntu433, do you also have a support question?
[17:35] <xubuntu433> sorry mate nothing important from me
[17:35] <drc> ok...this is weird...running 12.04.1...just got a update notification, look at what it was, went ahead and said "do it".  Next thing I know a dialogue box pops up stating "CD/DVD 'Ubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ Release i386 (20121017.2)' is required.  Any ideas?
[17:35] <xubuntu433> have a nice day
[17:44] <drc> Well, somehow, somewhere the line in software sources for the Ubuntu 12.10 CD got added ( I delete the line for Xubuntu 12.04 CD right after install.)
[17:47] <holstein> userzerox: you dont need covergloobus for conky
[17:47] <holstein> userzerox: you just install conky and run it.. what are you trying to add to conky with covergloobus?
[17:54] <userzerox> holstein: Please check this bigrza.deviantart.com/art/NotifyConky-Desktop-175447919
[17:55] <userzerox> http://bigrza.deviantart.com/art/NotifyConky-Desktop-175447919
[17:56] <GridCube> whats a simple sql viewer?
[17:56] <knome> select * from table;
[17:57] <GridCube> but i have this .sql file, and i want to see its structure
[17:57] <knome> GridCube, what's the format? is it just an export?
[17:57] <GridCube> its .sql
[17:57] <GridCube> i dont know, i guess its from mysql
[17:57] <knome> that's the file extension
[17:58] <knome> try guessing harder
[17:58] <knome> can you open it in leafpad?
[17:58] <GridCube> the system that uses it it mysql
[17:58] <GridCube> yes
[17:58] <knome> there you see the structure then
[17:59] <knome> sounds like an export, there's no other way to read it than read it in a text editor unless you import it somewhere
[17:59] <knome> (considering it is an export)
[18:01] <GridCube> :D yes! thanks mister k
[18:01] <knome> np
[18:22] <userzerox> Anyone there ?
[18:23] <GridCube> !anyone | userzerox
[18:23] <GridCube> !patience | userzerox
[18:24] <userzerox> I'm sorry! this is my first time. Please accept my apology.
[18:25] <userzerox> I'm trying to set this conky theme. I have extracted all files to proper location. I'm just confused with icons file. Where do i extract it to ?
[18:26] <userzerox> http://bigrza.deviantart.com/art/NotifyConky-Desktop-175447919
[18:44] <xubuntu735> hi
[18:45] <xubuntu735> which msn messenger provides voice chat in linux?
[18:46] <Azelphur> aMSN
[18:47] <xubuntu735> aMsn hmm
[18:47] <xubuntu735> olrite let me try it
[19:01] <xubuntu735> how to install aMsn?
[19:16] <baizon> xubuntu735: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1954154
[19:17] <v1adimir> Pidgin should have it also?..
[19:29] <xubuntu735> i have installed skype but i can open it only fromt he terminal and when i close the window.. the skype is also closed
[19:30] <xubuntu735> how to fix this prob?
[19:30] <xubuntu735> from the terminal*
[19:30] <holstein> xubuntu735: skype & is one way
[19:30] <holstein> xubuntu735: adding a proper shortcut would be another
[19:30] <xubuntu735> i mean when i close the terminal the skype also closes
[19:31] <v1adimir> did you get the .deb from here? http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[19:31] <xubuntu735> nopes
[19:31] <v1adimir> that 1 should work i think
[19:31] <holstein> there should be a menu item
[19:31] <xubuntu735> http://tutorial.softurtle.com/linux-tutorial-install-skype-xubuntu-12-04
[19:32] <v1adimir> and you completed: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[19:32] <xubuntu735> yeah
[19:32] <v1adimir> (plus the libraries)
[19:33] <v1adimir> the new one sucks, but maybe just upgrade it from skype.com (and/or remove old) to avoid the stress? :)
[19:33] <holstein> xubuntu735: so, you can install the suggested .deb, make a proper menu item for the version you have installed, or use "&" after the launch command in the terminal.. or just leave the terminal open.. or install somethiing like kupfer
[19:35] <xubuntu735> what is kupfer for?
[19:35] <baizon> xubuntu735: fast access of data
[19:35] <baizon> im using synapse instead of kupfer
[19:35] <xubuntu735> olrite
[19:36] <xubuntu735> btw its qasim here..if you guys remember
[19:36] <xubuntu735> lol
[19:37] <holstein> xubuntu735: i would just remove what you have, and install the one from the site, or the one from the partner repos
[19:37] <xubuntu735> & sign isnt working
[19:37] <xubuntu735> how to remove it
[19:37] <holstein> xubuntu735: not sure what you mean
[19:38] <holstein> xubuntu735: just dont type it in
[19:38] <xubuntu735> its so light weight i think i should not remove it
[19:38] <holstein> xubuntu735: what will work is "command &" in the terminal
[19:38] <xubuntu735> well i typed "skype&"
[19:39] <xubuntu735> but when i closed the terminal
[19:39] <holstein> xubuntu735: sure.. type this instead
[19:39] <holstein> skype &
[19:39] <holstein> not skype&
[19:39] <xubuntu735> hmm ok
[19:39] <xubuntu735> not working
[19:39] <xubuntu735> same problem
[19:40] <holstein> xubuntu735: worked for me
[19:40] <holstein> xubuntu735: also, its not a "problem"
[19:40] <xubuntu735> when i type that command ..terminal diplays a mesaage
[19:40] <xubuntu735> like some thing failed
[19:40] <holstein> xubuntu735: open a terminal.. type "skype &" ..hit return.. type "exit"
[19:40] <holstein> xubuntu735: if the application isnt launching, this wont fix it
[19:41] <holstein> xubuntu735: i would remove whatever you have installed and install it from the site or the partner repos
[19:41] <xubuntu735> olrite
[19:41] <xubuntu735> thanks
[19:42] <xubuntu735> actually i was closing the terminal by clicking over cross
[19:42] <xubuntu735> now its okay
[19:42] <holstein> xubuntu735: you can do that, or try it *exactly* as i suggested above, which worked for me
[19:43] <xubuntu735> but im not sure the skype from their site would be so light weight a this one is
[19:43] <xubuntu735> second i dont know the uninstallation procedure
[19:44] <xubuntu735> as this one is*
[19:45] <holstein> xubuntu735: sure.. im just not sure you have skype
[19:45] <holstein> xubuntu735: its not open source, or able to be edited.. you might have something with spyware in it for all we know
[19:46] <holstein> xubuntu735: either its skype, or its not
[19:46] <v1adimir> xubuntu735: the new skype (4) is huge and bloated, that's for sure..
[19:47] <xubuntu735> its skype beta
[19:47] <xubuntu735> but its not exactly like the one from their official site
[19:48] <xubuntu735> btw when i type skype in the terminal
[19:48] <xubuntu735> the skype messengers pops up and logs me in..in a jiffy
[19:48] <xubuntu735> i hope its not a spyware
[19:48] <holstein> im using 4 beta.. works fine. though it was glitchy at first
[19:48] <holstein> xubuntu735: if its not skype, its not skype.. if it is, then it is
[19:49] <xubuntu735> hmm
[19:49] <holstein> if you are saying "im having issues with something that im not sure is skype". just remove it, and get skype
[19:50] <holstein> you dont have to get the 4 beta.. but bet it from a source that when i ask "where did you get skype?" you can answer "a trusted source"
[19:50] <xubuntu735> let me paste something terminal message here
[19:50] <xubuntu735> qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$ skype & [1] 3561 qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$  (skype:3561): GLib-WARNING **: unknown option bit(s) set
[19:51] <xubuntu735> (skype:3561): GLib-WARNING **: unknown option bit(s) set  (skype:3561): GLib-WARNING **: unknown option bit(s) set  (skype:3561): GLib-WARNING **: unknown option bit(s) set ^C qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$
[19:51] <holstein> xubuntu735: if it opens and runs, that wouldnt scare me
[19:51] <xubuntu735> yes its working
[19:51] <holstein> then, just stop opening it from the terminal
[19:52] <xubuntu735> i have tried echo sound test service
[19:52] <xubuntu735> voice quality i okay too
[19:52] <xubuntu735> is okay*
[19:54] <xubuntu735> how can i open it directly?
[19:56] <xubuntu735> i mean ..its the only way i know to launch skype
[19:56] <xubuntu735> i cant see any icon or anything anywhere else
[19:56] <holstein> xubuntu735: install the arguably more appropriate skype .deb that should get you a menu item.. or create a custom launcher.. or use something like kupfer or synapse
[19:57] <xubuntu735> would these softwares (kupfer or synapse) overload my computer?
[19:57] <holstein> xubuntu735: a custom lanucher wont for sure
[19:58] <holstein> add a menu item manually
[19:58] <xubuntu735> right
[19:58] <holstein> i prefer kupfer to clicking around.... i find it a light alternative to launching applications
[19:58] <xubuntu735> sorry for being so naive and dumb ..but i really know nothing about linux OS :
[19:58] <holstein> is it what you need? of course not.. that version of skype should give you a menu item
[19:58] <xubuntu735> :(
[19:59] <xubuntu735> kupfer
[19:59] <holstein> xubuntu735: there are launchers like this for other OS's. the concept of kupfer or synpse is not linux specific
[19:59] <xubuntu735> okay im gonna download it
[19:59] <xubuntu735> but wondows does it all by itself
[20:01] <holstein> xubuntu735: the applications do it all by them selves
[20:01] <holstein> xubuntu735: my skype gave me a menu item.. i have installed applications in windows xp that didnt
[20:01] <holstein> xubuntu735: again, this is not a linux specific issue
[20:04] <xubuntu735> i have downloaded kupfer without any addons from the software centre
[20:06] <xubuntu735> kool
[20:06] <xubuntu735> kupfer is fine
[20:06] <xubuntu735> thanks heaps
[20:06] <Newb> Uh, Um... Is this where I ask for help?
[20:06] <xubuntu735> yeah
[20:06] <xubuntu735> you are at right place
[20:06] <Newb> Oh~ Yay~
[20:06] <Newb> I'm trying to install Glame
[20:07] <xubuntu735> if you have any issues regarding xubuntu
[20:07] <Newb> And.. I have no idea what I'm doing
[20:07] <Newb> I'm new to linux
[20:07] <xubuntu735> and i dont even know what glame is :(
[20:07] <Newb> It's an audio softwar
[20:07] <Newb> *e
[20:07] <Newb> Supposed to be the Gimp of Audio
[20:07] <holstein> Newb: what are you trying to do??
[20:08] <holstein> Newb: audacity is usually what folks use for stereo editing
[20:08] <holstein> ardour is what i use.. but its likely overkill for you.. requires JACK
[20:09] <Newb> I just want a program that I can record some songs
[20:09] <Newb> pretty much everything is gonna be overkill for me
[20:09] <holstein> Newb: audacity
[20:09] <Newb> Ok, where do I get that?
[20:09] <holstein> Newb: gnome-sound-recorder
[20:09] <holstein> Newb: its in the repos
[20:09] <Newb> Uh
[20:10] <Newb> I... I don't know what that means
[20:10] <Newb> what is repos?
[20:10] <holstein> Newb: you can install if from the software center.. synaptic. the terminal
[20:11] <holstein> open a terminal.. sudo apt-get install audacity gnome-sound-recorder
[20:11] <Newb> Uh
[20:11] <Newb> pretend I'm your grandmother
[20:11] <Newb> what's a terminal
[20:11] <Newb> I'm sorry I'm so ignorant
[20:12] <holstein> Newb: its in the menu. labeled "terminal".. you should see the word "terminal".. click that word with the cursor that moves when you move the mouse
[20:12] <holstein> in that black box that comes up, you can type, or copy paste "sudo apt-get install audactity gnome-sound-recorder"
[20:12] <Newb> ok wait, where do I find the menu?
[20:13] <holstein> without the quote marks.. the little "'s
[20:13] <Newb> is it in software center
[20:13] <Newb> on my desktop somewhere?
[20:13] <holstein> Newb: you can install from the software center
[20:13] <holstein> Newb: first thing.. just relax
[20:13] <Newb> ok, I have ubuntu software center open
[20:13] <Newb> Haha, sorry
[20:14] <xubuntu735> hmm
[20:14] <holstein> in the software center you can search "audacity"
[20:14] <Newb> oh oh yay~
[20:15] <Newb> So, should I be getting most of my downloads from the software center? For future reference
[20:16] <xubuntu735> well
[20:16] <holstein> Newb: yes.. i would say all.. until that doesnt work for you, then you'll learn how to do otherwise, and why thats a good/bad idea
[20:16] <Newb> Alright~
[20:17] <Newb> So, it says it's installed... Where do I go to open it?
[20:17] <holstein> Newb: the elusive menu
[20:18] <Newb> Ooh
[20:18] <Newb> ok I'm listening
[20:18] <holstein> well, thats about all i have.. you click on it. and launch it... configure it and record
[20:18] <holstein> there is also gnome-sound-recorder which might be even simpler
[20:19] <Newb> I think I'll be alright with audacity, I remember my exhusband used that
[20:19] <Newb> THank you so much for your help~
[20:19] <Newb> I'll see if I can't find that menu
[20:19] <holstein> sure.. enjoy!. check out #opensourcemusicians for more audio specific stuff
[20:20] <Newb> Thanks~
[20:20] <Newb> Ah! I found it! Right click. :)
[20:21] <xubuntu735> i have installed java jdk through software centre ..though it works fine overall
[20:21] <xubuntu735> but its certain functions are disabled
[20:21] <holstein> Newb: there should be a panel along the top.. with the time in it.. on the far left, otherside from the time should be a menu button
[20:22] <holstein> xubuntu735: what functions?..
[20:22] <xubuntu735> like
[20:22] <Newb> holstein: Oh yeah! That's the same as right click~
[20:22] <xubuntu735> im using webbrowser
[20:22] <xubuntu735> which asks for java
[20:23] <xubuntu735> java is working fine over them but when i click over buttons like search
[20:23] <xubuntu735> it does nothing
[20:23] <xubuntu735> otherwise in windows a menu used to popup
[20:23] <holstein> xubuntu735: you should be able to get the same java version
[20:24] <xubuntu735> which java suits xubuntu 12.10?
[20:25] <holstein> xubuntu735: thats not the question. the question is which one does the website you are having issues with expect
[20:25] <xubuntu735> hmm yeah
[20:26] <Newb> holstein: My best friend lives in in your town! That's so cool~
[20:26] <holstein> Newb: asheville? you want to take this to the ot channel?
[20:26] <Newb> where's that?
[20:27] <Newb> the ot channel I mean
[20:27] <knome> !ot | Newb
[20:27]  * Rios wonders if anyone is alive in here
[20:27] <knome> Rios, no, we're all walking dead.
[20:27] <Rios> .idle
[20:27] <Rios> lol
[20:27] <xubuntu735> lol
[20:27] <Newb> sorry, yes thank you
[20:27] <Rios> can i place xbuntu onto a flashdrive and make it bootable?
[20:28] <xubuntu735> i have iced tea web 1.3 plugin
[20:28] <xubuntu735> and i guess its the latest one prolly..
[20:28] <xubuntu735> i should use older version of it
[20:28] <xubuntu735> yeah you can rios
[20:29] <Rios> would i use the alternate install cd and not the desktop cd
[20:29] <xubuntu735> for that question ..referred to knome lol
[20:29] <xubuntu735> or holstein
[20:29] <knome> Rios, from which system are you creating the usb drive?
[20:30] <holstein> xubuntu735: iced tea is not java..
[20:30] <Rios> I'm going to place it on an em64t Dell Inspiron on it's own partition.
[20:31] <Rios> permanent install
[20:31] <xubuntu735> it says iced tea web plugin executes java applets
[20:31] <knome> Rios, i mean, is it a windows, ubuntu or something else where you need to create the usb drive
[20:31] <holstein> xubuntu735: i have always found that i tolerate it til something doesnt work, then i get java
[20:31] <Rios> windows
[20:32] <Rios> it's dual boot 7/8 but I will use 7
[20:32] <knome> !usb | Rios
[20:32] <knome> ^ that should have the necessary instructions :)
[20:32] <Rios> Thank you. I will check that out.
[20:32] <knome> afaik, you can only use the desktop iso with many of the options, so you want that
[20:33] <xubuntu735> should i install the java from oracle web site?
[20:33] <Rios> Okay. Thanks a bunch Knome
[20:34] <holstein> xubuntu735: theres no "should"... just get what the site expects you to have.. get whate the site needs
[20:34] <knome> Rios, np
[20:34] <xubuntu735> hmmm
[20:35] <xubuntu735> for that matter i may have to uninstall iced tea software right?
[20:35] <holstein> xubuntu735: i hate to say, i havent tried iced tea in a while..
[20:35] <xubuntu735> or i can keep both along
[20:36] <xubuntu735> in real i also like hot tea :D
[20:37] <xubuntu735> so lets see what oracle serves me with
[20:37] <holstein> xubuntu735: this looks familiar
[20:37] <holstein> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html
[20:38] <xubuntu735> ty for the link
[20:48] <xubuntu735> holstein...im downloading a tar file of java jre from oracle web site
[20:49] <xubuntu735> how would i be able to install it?
[20:51] <holstein> xubuntu735: should have a readme in there.. however who ever created it wants it to be installed
[22:54] <Gaddel> hello, i am using xubuntu with an elantech touchpad, and i am unable to configure multitouch options or general touchpad settings. synclient -l says no synaptics drivers are loaded. full details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093871
[23:55] <phunyguy_t430s> How can I get Gwibber or an alternative running in Xubuntu? I am assuming it wants me to utilize "Online Accounts" that doesn't see to be on my system anywhere.
[23:55] <phunyguy_t430s> seem*
[23:56] <phunyguy_t430s> when launching gwibber it brings me to gnome-control-center, which doesn't have "online accounts" in there.
[23:58] <holstein> phunyguy_t430s: i dont have time to look into that right now, but check out these links...
[23:58] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/194956/cannot-add-facebook-account-to-gwibber referencing broadcast accounts
[23:59] <holstein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F095e6cYfk and http://followthegeeks.com/the-2-best-gwibber-alternatives-for-ubuntu/


[08:43] <smb> lag, can u hear us? :)
[08:48] <lag> smb: I can now
[09:19]  * abogani waves
[09:19]  * abogani is wondering why if I download Maverick's git tree through http it results in outdated tree....
[09:25] <_ruben> hrm, cant seem to find the proper #include line to get me 'struct sk_buff' .. there's linux/skbuff.h in /usr/src/linux-headers..../ but it doesnt seem to look there (by default)
[09:29] <smb> apw, lift your finger
[09:29] <lag> smb: He's double-clicked it
[09:29] <smb> lag, I know, I forgot the sarcasm tags
[09:29] <lag> apw: Let us know when you're back
[09:30] <lag> apw: And we'll 'un-mute' you :)
[09:55] <apw_> Bah looks like my internet just broke ...
[09:55] <smb> Must be up again now
[09:56] <apw_> Mid rant too ... most annoying
[09:56] <smb> Hm maybe havn't even heard the start of it
[09:56] <apw_> No am on my phone
[09:57] <smb> Oh. Doh!
[09:57] <apw_> Modern I am ... all mod cans
[09:57] <apw_> Cons even
[09:58] <smb> You can use your phone as AP now. :)
[09:58] <jk-> mod cans are cooler
[10:02] <apw_> May be on its way back
[10:06] <apw> who
[10:26] <apw> cking, heloooo
[10:26] <cking> apw, hi
[10:26] <apw> just checking yuou are alive
[10:26] <smb> cking, or awake
[10:26] <cking> alive
[10:27] <cking> gotta few critical bugs on my plate at the mo
[10:34] <lag> cking: I now have images of this: http://images.travelpod.com/users/paulandmel/worldtrip.1131078600.epv0041.jpg
[12:13] <M-> Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has any tips on where to start looking if I wanted to incorporate a patch into a lucid kernel package?
[12:13] <M-> I've done it before with hardy, but the binary-custom stuff seems to have been deprecated in the interim :)
[13:39] <lag> Daviey: ping
[13:40] <Daviey> lag: o/
[13:40] <lag> Daviey: How goes it?
[13:40] <Daviey> lag:  "adequate" :)
[13:40] <Daviey> lag: yourself?
[13:41] <lag> Daviey: It's the best _you_ can _ever_ hope for
[13:41] <lag> Daviey: Excellent
[13:41] <lag> :D
[13:41] <Daviey> heh :)
[13:41] <lag> Daviey: Do you want to sleep with me?
[13:41] <lag> @UDS
[13:42] <Daviey> Erm.. big spoon or little?
[13:42] <lag> I have to be big spoon - anything else would just be inappropriate
[13:42] <lag> Are you bunked up with anyone already?
[13:42] <lag> Do you snore?
[13:43] <Daviey> OK.. but if you abuse me in my sleep.. i'll be upset :'(
[13:43] <Daviey> not afaik.. MrsDaviey has never commented.
[13:43] <lag> :)
[13:43] <lag> Cool, so you're in?
[13:43] <Daviey> +1
[13:43] <lag> I'll send you the link, wait one
[13:44] <Daviey> lag: Are you confirmed on that outbound flight?
[13:44] <lag> Which one?
[13:44] <lag> Sunday?
[13:44] <Daviey> Yeah, 10-ish?
[13:44]  * lag checks
[13:44] <lag> 11-ish
[13:44] <lag> Yeah
[13:45] <Daviey> I expect you managed to get biz class.
[13:46] <lag> Daviey: It's the only way to travel
[13:48] <Daviey> *git*
[14:40] <JFo> brb
[14:52] <apw> git log 9fe6206f400646a2322096b56c59891d530e8d51..origin/master arch/arm
[15:14] <apw> git merge-base  9fe6206f400646a2322096b56c59891d530e8d51 <arm branch>
[15:15] <JFo> apw, did we put out a fix for that framebuffer race condition?
[15:15] <JFo> or whatever it was?
[15:16] <apw> i believe we merged something into our maverick tree yes
[15:16] <JFo> ok
[15:16] <JFo> so still badness for lucid
[15:17] <lag> fc0f5ac8fe693d1b05f5a928cc48135d1c8b7f2e
[15:17] <apw> jfo yes
[15:17] <JFo> k, thx
[15:19] <apw> commit 9fe6206f400646a2322096b56c59891d530e8d51
[15:19] <apw> Author: Linus Torvalds<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:19] <apw> Date:   Sun Aug 1 15:11:14 2010 -0700
[15:19] <apw>     Linux 2.6.35
[15:23] <lag> git://dev.omapzoom.org/pub/scm/integration/kernel-omap4.git
[15:23] <apw> lag branch name
[15:23] <lag> L24.9
[15:24] <JFo> bjf, mashed almost 2k incompletes last night
[15:24] <apw> jfo liking the sound of that, got a link to nice graphs
[15:24] <JFo> yep, one sec.
[15:25] <JFo> apw: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/linux
[15:25] <JFo> over 2k I mean
[15:25] <apw> jfo so wahts the total bug count ?h
[15:26] <JFo> apw, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~kernel-bugs/+packagebugs says 5402 for all packages there
[15:26] <JFo> that is for all open status
[15:27] <apw> jfo njce
[15:27] <JFo> :)
[15:32] <lag> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476969/
[15:32] <JFo> tgardner, you around?
[15:32] <JFo> bug 513292
[15:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 513292 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Heron LTS 8.04.3 and 20100126's 8.04.4 don't support Intel 82574L NICs (affects: 5) (heat: 44)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513292
[15:33] <JFo> looks like we lost a net card support after an update
[15:37] <tgardner> JFo, looking
[15:38] <JFo> thanks
[15:38] <JFo> just wondered what you want me to do with it. i.e. is it worth putting on the list for review
[16:43] <joewilliams> ask this a couple days ago but didnt get far, i installed linux-crashdump on a couple (10.04) servers but it doesnt seem to be collecting the core and rebooting. i have to manually reboot the machines. i tested it in a vmware image and it worked fine. any ideas?
[16:52] <bdmurray> JFo: I think it would make more sense if the expired response linked to the development release instead of http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[16:52] <JFo> sigh* that needs to be fixed. I'll work that now. Thanks for the heads-up bdmurray
[16:55] <bdmurray> JFo: no problem - thanks for working on it
[16:56] <JFo> certainly
[17:03] <JFo> change pushed
[17:04] <JFo> testing now
[18:05] <apw> joewilliams, not sure we have much experience of that here, have you asked on #ubuntu-server, they tend to use those things more heavily
[18:06] <joewilliams> apw: cool, i asked there too, we'll see how it goes. while havent gotten a core yet ive seen the same stack trace a few times https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/614853
[18:06] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 614853 in linux-ec2 (Ubuntu) "kernel panic divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:06] <joewilliams> is that something you could help with?
[19:13] <rsalveti> tgardner: just sent you a merge proposal for linux-meta-ti-omap4, to update the ABI so our image can pull the latest kernel version
[19:13] <rsalveti> tgardner: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/ubuntu/maverick/linux-meta-ti-omap4/update-abi-903/+merge/32489
[19:13] <rsalveti> please let me know if it's not right or if I should do something else
[19:14] <rsalveti> it wasn't update with latest kernel update form omap4
[19:14] <rsalveti> *updated
[19:14] <tgardner> rsalveti, ogasawara  is already working on it. we'll have it updated in a bit
[19:15] <rsalveti> tgardner: oh, ok, nice
[19:15] <ogasawara> rsalveti: gimme 2 sec
[19:15] <rsalveti> ogasawara: if you want you can just merge it, I'm just following the previous commit
[19:15] <rsalveti> ogasawara: sure, np :-)
[19:16] <ogasawara> rsalveti: nah, just as easy for me to fix it up by hand
[19:16] <tgardner> rsalveti, that merge request thingy is a launchpad gizmo, right?
[19:16] <rsalveti> tgardner: yep
[19:17] <rsalveti> ogasawara: true :-)
[19:17] <rsalveti> I created the merge so you could look at it later on
[19:18] <tgardner> rsalveti, all of our kernel packages are maintained in git on kernel.ubuntu.com. As such we don't use the LP mechanism for updating packages. I'm allergic to bzr most days.
[19:18] <rsalveti> tgardner: haha, but this one is on bzr, lp:ubuntu/linux-meta-ti-omap4
[19:19] <rsalveti> but I do understand you :-)
[19:21] <tgardner> rsalveti, its only in LP because a branch is automatically created every time you upload a source package.
[19:23] <rsalveti> tgardner: true, just found the meta package on git
[19:23] <rsalveti> didn't know you were all using git even for tracking packages
[19:23] <rsalveti> but makes sense :-)
[19:31] <ogasawara> rsalveti: just uploaded, it's queued to build in about an hour - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-ti-omap4/<IP_ADDRESS>3.4
[19:32] <rsalveti> ogasawara: nice, thanks
[20:52] <mpoirier> tgardner: should the title read "SAUCE: (drop after 2.6.35)[PATCH] UBUNTU - ARM: Using gpmc function to init nand flash" ?
[20:56] <tgardner> mpoirier, ogasawara can fix it up when she applies it to maverick. you don't need to resubmit.
[20:56] <ogasawara> mpoirier: yep, I was gonna fix it up anyways when I apply it
[20:57] <mpoirier> what's with the "M+1" part ?
[20:57] <ogasawara> mpoirier: but just for future reference, it'll look something like "UBUNTU: SAUCE: (drop after 2.6.35) ..."
[20:57] <mpoirier> got it, make sense - thanks.
[20:58] <tgardner> mpoirier, M=1 refers to whatever we're gonna call the Maverick plus one branch. The name has not been announced
[20:58] <tgardner> m+1*
[20:58] <mpoirier> yes, it's all clear now.
[20:58] <ogasawara> mpoirier: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/StablePatchFormat - might be helpful also
[20:59] <ogasawara> mpoirier: the policies outlined there also generally apply to the current development release
[20:59] <mpoirier> very useful.
[22:13] <econdudeawesome> hi y'all. I have a really weird issue. Anytime I run chromium or a very heavy load (like flash) I appear to go into a kernel panic. I'm not sure it really is kernel panic, but it's the best explanation for whats going on.
[22:17] <econdudeawesome> The only info I have to go on is what I see (computer appears to attempt a restart, load into something like if I pressed alt+sysrq+e, but won't stay around, can't even open tty shell)
[22:17] <econdudeawesome> in the log, I just get that SAK is killing everything
[22:20] <econdudeawesome> Anyone around?


[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:16] <sgmoore> hiyas
[14:21] <BluesKaj> hey sgmoore
 @Eickmeyer does your systray back working?
[16:29] <Eickmeyer> @myfenris Sadly, no.
[16:29] <Eickmeyer> Not for non-KDE apps.
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aca03dbe/file_73251_tgs.webp
[17:44] <RikMills> arraybolt3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-installer-prompt/24.04.6build1
[17:44] <RikMills> because i want a working ISO ;)
[18:08] <arraybolt3> RikMills: "NCR against release pocket" - how do you do that?
[18:08] <arraybolt3> You use magic that I know not of :P
[19:26] <RikMills> arraybolt3: former biletto ppa and then copy-package to noble proposed
[19:26] <RikMills> those ppas are one of the few that it is allowed from
[19:28] <RikMills> nor something I would frequently do
[19:33]  * RikMills spins a new ISO
[19:47] <arraybolt3> ah, and not something I can do at all.
 Ditto
 So the bug fix plasma was released today. All uploaded to ppa, but putting off anymore rebuilds due to arm being worked from all these t_64 transition mess.
 Borked*
 I am hoping this update fixes the system tray woes. Unfortunately, I can't reproduce it 😢
[21:23] <Eickmeyer> @sgmoore the system tray woes are mostly electron apps, and definitely electron snaps.
[21:24] <Eickmeyer> I'm not quite willing to blame apparmor because it was working with apparmor and before current plasma point release.
 Ah. I may know what it might be. Will find the bug tomorrow.
[23:11] <Eickmeyer> FYI, big oof if you haven't been paying attention to the dev ML: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2024-March/012031.html
[23:20] <arraybolt3> Just answered that :P
[23:21] <arraybolt3> tl;dr: Guys, there's a reason we say this isn't production-ready and is alpha-quality. :)
[23:21] <arraybolt3> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2024-March/012032.html
[23:24] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Thanks for handling that! But also, I would've included discourse since the premise of the question was that nothing was going out to the MLs.
 I replied also, not nearly as in depth and nicely as Aaron.
[23:24] <arraybolt3> Valid, I was going to reply to the earlier email but I didn't know exactly what communication methods we had officially other than IRC :P
[23:25] <arraybolt3> I know Rick Timmis was helping get things set up on Matrix but it's not official yet.
[23:25] <Eickmeyer> sgmoore and rtimmis have been on Discourse. :)
 I know we have matrix in the works. Discourse is Flavors, not really dedicated Kubu tu. So it didn't really come to mind sorry.
[23:26] <arraybolt3> sgmoore: I can't see your email in the archives?
 No?
[23:27] <arraybolt3> you might have hit "reply" rather than "reply list" or some such
[23:27] <arraybolt3> (you use KMail, I'm using Thunderbird)
 I am on phone right now. Plain Ole gmail
[23:28] <Eickmeyer> @sgmoore I have proposed creating individual flavor categories inside the main Flavor category, but that discussion derailed horribly. There was a discussion brought to Ubuntu Flavors on Matrix that never got much traction.
 Bummer :( (re @IrcsomeBot: <Eickmeyer> @sgmoore I have proposed creating individual flavor categories inside the main Flavor category, but that discussion derailed horribly. There was a discussion brought to Ubuntu Flavors on Matrix that never got much traction.)
[23:29] <Eickmeyer> I might JFDI since there weren't any actual dissenters, but just questions upon questions.
 I have no idea where my response vanished to. Well Aaron had a great response, that's what matters. Thank you.
[23:30] <Eickmeyer> !cookie | arraybolt3
[23:30] <arraybolt3> :)
[23:31] <arraybolt3> Glad to help out
 I will try to find the thread and see if I can get it reevaluated (re @IrcsomeBot: <Eickmeyer> I might JFDI since there weren't any actual dissenters, but just questions upon questions.)
[23:31] <Eickmeyer> I wish ubottu's response didn't sound sarcastic.
[23:31] <arraybolt3> :rofl_emoji:
[23:31] <Eickmeyer> @sgmoore it was on Matrix.
[23:31] <arraybolt3> !botsnack
[23:31] <Eickmeyer> HAHAHAHA
[23:31] <Eickmeyer> Forgot about that one


[07:10] <astechgeek> pleia2: I would like to find a mentor
[15:43] <issyl0> j #ubuntu-classroom
[15:44] <issyl0> Argh, sorry!
[15:44] <pleia2> hehe
[15:44] <pleia2> at least you didn't put your nickserv password in channel :)
[15:44] <pleia2> that's a fun mistake
[15:45] <issyl0> Yes, I am very careful to always identify in the status window, if I don't have the client set to auto-identify :)
[16:14] <nigel_nb> pleia2: is there a schedule for the uclp session at uds?
[16:47] <pleia2> nigel_nb: yeah, it's on thursday, lemme get the time
[16:49] <pleia2> 4:15 CST
[16:50] <nigel_nb> pleia2: thanks.. lemme convert that
[16:50] <nigel_nb> thats pm right?
[16:50] <pleia2> yep
[16:54] <nigel_nb> gimme another city with CST...
[16:54] <nigel_nb> :D can't find any familiar city
[16:55] <issyl0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Time_Zone_%28Americas%29#United_States
[16:56] <nigel_nb> issyl0: thanks, got it :)
[16:56] <issyl0> np :)
[16:56] <nigel_nb> pleia2: its at a beautiful time for me :D 03:45 AM, Friday
[16:56] <issyl0> Haha
[16:57] <issyl0> I was about to say well at least it's Friday, but then I realised that you still have the whole of Friday ahead of you ;)
[16:59] <nigel_nb> issyl0: unfortunately, yeah
[16:59] <nigel_nb> but I'm not going to miss it for the world
[17:29] <issyl0> Ohh right.
[17:29] <issyl0> And what is it/
[17:29] <issyl0> ?*
[17:40] <nigel_nb> i think lyz is gonna do a session about the uclp
[18:02] <nigel_nb> issyl0: funny asking it here
[18:02] <nigel_nb> Ubuntu Community Learning Project
[18:02] <nigel_nb> :D
[18:02] <issyl0> Ohhhh
[18:02] <issyl0> I get it.
[18:02]  * issyl0 is soo thick today :P
[18:03] <issyl0> Oh God I'm terrible.  Mind you it is Sunday and I am tired.
[18:03]  * nigel_nb thinks issyl0 is in "Hangover"
[18:03] <issyl0> Excuses excuses :P
[18:03] <issyl0> nigel_nb, I don't drink ;)
[18:03] <issyl0> But yeah i get it now
[18:03] <issyl0> I shoudl not have asked that question
[18:03] <issyl0> should*
[18:04] <nigel_nb> u remind me of paul though
[18:04] <issyl0> Oh?    Haha
[18:14] <nigel_nb> issyl0: so, you're contributing to the learning project?
[18:15] <issyl0> Not really, I just joined the channel as I want to get involved in more things and wanted to explore.  What is there that I can do?
[18:15] <nigel_nb> the best person to explain is cprofit t, pleia 2, or doctormo
[18:15] <cprofitt> hello issyl0
[18:16] <nigel_nb> but in essence, we are joining hands to create materials that can be taught in classroom, IRC, and Moodle (self-paced)
[18:16] <nigel_nb> ah, cprofitt can explain it better than me
[18:16] <cprofitt> well... we need people to write courses -- Moodle or in person
[18:16] <cprofitt> we need people to 'review' courses that are written
[18:17] <cprofitt> so ensure they are of good quality
[18:17] <cprofitt> people telling us what they want developed could help too...
[18:19] <cprofitt> does that help?
[18:19] <nigel_nb> and you dont need to do all of this.. just any single area would be great
[18:20] <cprofitt> exactly
[18:20] <cprofitt> though if you want to develop several courses... and do it all we would be greatful for that as well
[18:20] <cprofitt> :-)
[18:21] <issyl0> Oh right, cool.
[18:22] <issyl0> Well I'd be happy to do the reviewing.  What courses are there already?
[18:22] <issyl0> I'm rubbish at writing/teaching, but reviewing seems good and useful.
[18:22] <nigel_nb> we have a little bit of the system administration courses
[18:24] <issyl0> Oh, where can all this be found?
[18:25] <nigel_nb> do you know how to use bzr?
[18:25] <issyl0> I've never heard of it, but I'm sure I could learn?
[18:26] <nigel_nb> yes
[18:27] <nigel_nb> bzr is a versioning system that works with launchpad
[18:27] <issyl0> Okay
[18:27] <nigel_nb> currently, we develop courses in asciidoc format and push it to launchpad
[18:27] <nigel_nb> you can see them here https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-learning-materials/
[18:27] <issyl0> Ok, will take a look
[18:28] <issyl0> Okay yep I see
[18:28] <cprofitt> nigel_nb: can you try the Moodle server and let me know if it is up
[18:28] <nigel_nb> we also have a moodle site, http://learn.ufbt.net/
[18:28] <nigel_nb> its up, your trying the wrong address cprofitt
[18:29] <nigel_nb> cprofitt: okay now i get it
[18:29] <cprofitt> url please
[18:29] <nigel_nb> its down
[18:29] <cprofitt> ok... thanks
[18:29] <issyl0> Works for me
[18:29] <nigel_nb> issyl0: do u get "It works"?
[18:30] <nigel_nb> you're supposed to see more...
[18:30] <issyl0> Yeah, I get It works1
[18:30] <issyl0> !*
[18:30] <nigel_nb> cprofitt: the moodle site itself seems to be not there
[18:30] <cprofitt> nigel_nb: yep
[18:30] <cprofitt> I hope the data is not lost
[18:30] <nigel_nb> oh oh
[18:31] <nigel_nb> that would be a nightmare
[18:31] <issyl0> :(
[18:31] <issyl0> So #ubuntu-classroom is where all the learning takes place on IRC?
[18:31] <nigel_nb> issyl0: our moodle site seems to be down unfortunately
[18:32] <nigel_nb> i guess so :)
[18:32] <issyl0> Ah well, it happens :)
[18:32] <issyl0> nigel_nb, hehe
[18:32]  * issyl0 is contemplating whether she will have enough time to contribute to this project
[18:35] <cprofitt> issyl0: you will
[18:35] <cprofitt> do not worry.
[18:35] <issyl0> Haha
[18:35] <cprofitt> even if you know nothing about Linux you can help...
[18:35] <cprofitt> seriously... we need people to take the courses...
[18:36] <cprofitt> and help us iron out the gaps, etc
[18:36]  * issyl0 uses Ubuntu, that's a start.
[18:36] <issyl0> Oh right.
[18:36] <nigel_nb> we're all busy people with real lives, but a little time every day helps
[18:36] <nigel_nb> issyl0: we both are on the same boat
[18:36] <issyl0> Yep, agreed.
[18:36] <cprofitt> so there will always be things people can help with
[18:36] <nigel_nb> I'm not an expert either
[18:36] <cprofitt> telling us what you want to learn would help
[18:37] <issyl0> cprofitt, hmm, I don't know.  I just want to get as involved as possible in projects like this, it's very interesting.  I also would like to learn more about using CLI instead of GUI, my dependance on GUI apps is scary!
[18:39] <cprofitt> ah... CLI is a good topic... I think we have that planned
[18:49] <issyl0> Cool :D
[18:51] <nigel_nb> cprofitt: didnt doctormo already cover CLI?
[18:59]  * hal14450 mmm cli is power tool goodness
[19:00] <nigel_nb> hey hal14450
[19:00] <hal14450> grep, awk, sed, sort, uniq, ...
[19:00] <hal14450> lo nigel_nb
[19:01] <nigel_nb> missed bash?
[19:01] <nigel_nb> or is it too apparent
[19:01] <hal14450> i love the cli i use it for file management
[19:02] <hal14450> it's much faster and easier imho
[19:03] <cprofitt> there are some things you can not do with the GUI too
[19:04] <hal14450> i use mc a lot in a screen session
[19:05] <hal14450> it uses fish for ssh but they're developing a newer version using rsync
[19:05] <issyl0> Ohh
[19:05]  * issyl0 likes irssi for CLI IRC
[19:05] <issyl0> Lol, Mum just looked over my shoulder and said 'you barely have time for school work, or you barely devote any time to it, you're not going to get anywhere without GCSEs so you have to work hard, so I don't think you really do have adequate amounts of time to contribute to yet another online project
[19:05] <issyl0> :P
[19:05] <issyl0> Meh.
[19:06] <hal14450> lol
[19:06] <hal14450> you type fast
[19:06] <issyl0> Nah, that was c/p'd from another conversation :
[19:06] <issyl0> :P*
[19:06] <issyl0> But i like to think i type fast
[19:07] <issyl0> I do type fast when I concentrate on typing fast, but then my capital letters go to pot.
[19:07]  * nigel_nb thinks there is always time
[19:07] <issyl0> I think my fastest WPM was 94
[19:07] <nigel_nb> issyl0: wow
[19:08] <issyl0> Yeah, I was kinda surprised too.
[19:08] <issyl0> Anyway, now I've established that I /do/ have enough time to contribute, may I join the launchpad group?
[19:09] <nigel_nb> i think u'll just have to wait for one of the board to accept you
[19:09] <issyl0> Okay.  Ah yes, like it says.  :)
[19:09] <nigel_nb> cprofitt or pleia2 could do that
[19:11] <issyl0> Joined, just need to be approved now.  I'll wait patiently :)
[19:12] <cprofitt> issyl0: approved
[19:13] <issyl0> Thanks :)
[19:14] <issyl0> Thanks cprofitt :)
[19:15] <cprofitt> you are welcome
[19:17] <nigel_nb> off to bed folk
[19:17] <nigel_nb> folks
[19:17] <nigel_nb> later :)
[19:17] <cprofitt> night
[19:17] <nigel_nb> night cprofitt
[19:23] <issyl0> bye
[19:23] <issyl0> Oh, he went
[23:38] <bodhizazen> brought the uclp site back up


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[02:43] <c_smith> hello
[03:54] <bkerensa> slangasek: Becky Morgan Asst. Professor at WOU will be joining us on Sunday
[03:54] <bkerensa> she is working on her disertation for a PhD in Comp Sci
[04:40] <blkperl> xinetd--
[04:50] <bkerensa> blkperl: Command Unrecognized
[04:50] <blkperl> its a daemon
[04:51] <blkperl> its not playing nice with amanda
[14:50] <slangasek> bkerensa: Becky Morgan> nice :)
[20:09] <bkerensa> :) Get to go have Sushi with nathwill today and perhaps some cocktails