[00:38] <dirsch> hello
[00:39] <dirsch> i downloaded libre office on xubuntu, but i do not know how to make it an application that is usable. can someone help me?
[00:48] <packetfrog> dirsch goto a terminal> type this: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[00:48] <packetfrog> poof it will be in your menu
[00:55] <ddsss> in ssh keys - what are the last thing in public key. Is that like user@host ... or it can be any remark?
[01:12] <harris> do you have to download lan games to play
[02:11] <trickyhero> hello, I just made a blog post on what I think could be improved on xubuntu, could I post it here?
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> As a link, but in #xubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <trickyhero> thanks
[02:33] <nezb> Just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04... Xubuntu rocks!
[02:33] <nezb> The only sensible desktop Linux still around... all the other distros are going off the deep-end :P
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Awesome. Now for the next week, support goes into #ubuntu+1 instead...
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh really? What about Kubuntu?
[02:34] <nezb> Kubuntu is good, but I still prefer Xfce
[02:34] <nezb> although I must admit, KDE has come a long way since I first used it ... at version 1.x
[02:35] <nezb> Xfce is serious - "no frills"
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> KDE 4.WhateverTheHeckThey'reOnTheseDays is awesome.
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> nezb: GNOME 2, but not GNOME, nor 2..
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> It even has its own compositing manager, but you can use Compiz with it too
[02:36] <nezb> I don't need all that fancy stuff :P
[02:36] <nezb> (although I admit, transparent window borders look nice)
[02:36] <nezb> oh, and if there's any developers or maintainers in this channel, props to you too
[02:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Believe me, they're in here..
[02:39] <nezb> SonikkuAmerica: probably have the window hidden as they frantically put the finishing touches before release day ;)
[02:39] <nezb> isn't it ~1 week from now?
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes.
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> 6 days in fact.
[02:40] <nezb> so I guess technically we're in the release candidate stage
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, but there is no RC to be seen.
[02:41] <trickyhero> the daily builds are pretty much RC
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> There actually used to be designated RCs
[02:42] <nezb> it seems pretty stable to me
[02:42] <nezb> except for pulseaudio using 100% of my CPU from time to time ...
[02:42] <nezb> but I don't blame xubuntu on that
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> That's something to blame PulseAudio on. If your sound card is that low-end use Lubuntu
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> It still uses ALSA by default.
[02:43] <nezb> it's an integrated sound card, but pulseaudio worked just fine in 12.04 and 12.10
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Expect it to. Those are stable releases.
[02:44] <nezb> and 13.04 isn't stable!?
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> No
[02:44] <nezb> :(
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Not until 25 April
[02:45] <nezb> Well, I like to live on the bleeding edge
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Then, just like in test cricket, it will be declared.
[02:45] <nezb> if restarting pulseaudio every time it freaks out is what it takes to be on the bleeding edge... then I'll live with it
[02:45]  * nezb sighs
[02:46] <nezb> ok all. it's time for me to go.
[02:46] <nezb> bye!
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Me 2 bai
[02:46] <packetfrog> nezb Its not you
[02:47] <packetfrog> It happened to another guy and me last night
[03:59] <coder25> thinkpad t40 (Pentium M 1gb RAM) has Xubuntu 12.10 installed now. PC is not PAE compliant, package installer is broken and won't repair, I need to install Abiword or Libreoffice.  The Ubuntu website includes instructions for installing Ubuntu, where user is given the choice of replacing existing OS or not.  I do want to replace Xubuntu 12.10 with Xubuntu 12.4.  How do I do this?  Thanks.
[04:01] <heoyea> is ur partition seperated?
[04:03] <coder25> How do u  recommend I check on partitions?
[04:05] <heoyea> u have all ur data backup?
[04:06] <coder25> not much data.
[04:07] <coder25> I'm familiar with unetbootin, bootable usb, gparted.
[04:07] <heoyea> well if u dont need those then just install as usual
[04:07] <coder25> but i cannot install anything now, b/c installer is broken.
[04:08] <heoyea> put in livecd or liveusb
[04:08] <coder25> i could use a different pc to create bootable usb
[04:08] <heoyea> sure
[04:08] <coder25> please tell me in advance what u plan to do.  thanks.
[04:09] <heoyea> didnt u want to reinstall?
[04:11] <coder25> are u familiar with the non-PAE compliant issue?  is Xubuntu 12.4 the one to use?
[04:11] <heoyea> PAE is only for ppl that wants to use 32bit system that has 4GB ram+
[04:12] <coder25> thanks.
[04:12] <heoyea> otherwise just use the regualer 32bit
[04:13] <coder25> in running repair of the installer on Xubuntu 12.10, get error message that this PC is not PAE compliant and installer isn't repairable.  I do plan to use the 32 bit 12.4, or should i go to a version prior to that?
[04:15] <heoyea> 12.4 is fine
[04:15] <coder25> quit
[04:15] <coder25> logoff
[04:15] <coder25> how do i logoff?
[04:16] <heoyea> where u at
[08:37] <Noskcaj> does anyone online have testdrive installed? i need some bugs confirmed
[08:48] <Noskcaj> does anyone online have testdrive installed? i need some bugs confirmed
[08:53] <knome> Noskcaj, please don't repeat
[08:54] <knome> Noskcaj, besides, i would imagine there are better places to ask for help with that, like #ubuntu-quality or even #xubuntu-devel
[08:54] <Noskcaj> knome, oops, hadn't realised i posted twice. and i have
[09:21] <Joe_______> Hi all
[09:22] <Joe_______> Anyone can tell if xubuntu 13.04 will be a LTS version?
[09:22] <Joe_______> no info on google available...
[09:23] <koegs> Joe_______: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[09:24] <Myrtti> Joe_______: all Ubuntu derivatives release their LTS versions (if they have them) at same time with the main distribution which is every even year april.
[09:24] <Myrtti> at the current pattern
[09:44] <Joe_______> Ooops,.. Got disconnected
[09:44] <Joe_______> Thanks Myrtti
[09:45] <Joe_______> The reason I'm asking is that Xubuntu seems to be offering LTS every two years
[09:45] <Joe_______> There was no 11.04 LTS, 9.04 or 7.04 LTS
[09:45] <koegs> [11:23:35] < koegs> Joe_______: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[09:46] <Joe_______> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
[09:46] <Myrtti> Joe_______: as I said, every even year.
[09:47] <Joe_______> I know about Ubuntu being LTS every April, but it does not seem to apply on Xubuntu
[09:47] <Joe_______> Am I mistaken?
[09:47] <Myrtti> no, not every april
[09:47] <koegs> just read the wiki, LTS will be every two years for Ubuntu and Xubuntu is following that schedule
[09:48] <Myrtti> "all Ubuntu derivatives release their LTS versions (if they have them) at same time with the main distribution which is every even year April."
[09:50] <Joe_______> Oh, I see
[09:51] <Joe_______> So 18 months support, right?
[09:52] <koegs> Joe_______: did you even take a look here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[09:53] <Joe_______> You get free security updates for at least 9 months on the desktop and server.
[09:53] <Joe_______> That's what I read
[09:53] <Joe_______> But from previous versions I have in mind that it was 18
[09:54] <Joe_______> I also see on the diagram that the orange bars are getting shorter in time
[09:56] <knome> Joe_______, from 12.10, regular releases are supported for 9 monts and LTS releases (for xubuntu) 36 months.
[10:02] <Joe_______> Thanks again
[10:02] <Joe_______> It's a shame, 13.04 looks sooo much better....
[10:03] <knome> you can simply upgrade to 13.10 when it's out and you'll have the extended support period
[10:05] <Joe_______> I think we'll stick to 12.04 and try apt-get dist-upgrade next year
[10:06] <Joe_______> If something fails we'll stick to 12.04 until  2017
[10:08] <knome> Joe_______, the xubuntu-speciifc parts only have 3 years of support though.
[10:09] <Joe_______> Thanks for pointing out knome! This is important!
[10:11] <Joe_______> Anyone else interested in support and reasoning on short 9 months: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-March/001527.html
[10:13] <Myrtti> Joe_______: the Ubuntu effort on mobile devices.
[10:23] <knome> well tbh, 18 months for the interim releases was "too good" to start with. i'm glad it happened though, but it's time to move on
[10:32] <antisober552> Knome thx for the help last night i got the permission right
[10:33] <antisober552> So i can save all my work
[10:34] <knome> antisober552, good
[10:38] <Stek_Turku> Hi all
[10:38] <Stek_Turku> does anyone have problems with thunderbird (xubuntu 12.04)?
[10:39] <jpmartins> Hi everyone... top of the morning for you guys :)
[10:40] <Stek_Turku> when i reply or write new mail, thunderbird open a new window after very very very very long time....
[10:41] <Stek_Turku> it happen also when i open a mail in a new window... and it didn't happen if i open a mail in a new tab
[10:43] <jpmartins> Can anyone send me a list of printer brands that are Xubuntu friendly?
[10:44] <knome> jpmartins, http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[10:45] <jpmartins> Cool thanks... is that list regularly updated?
[10:45] <knome> as people test new printers, yes
[10:45] <knome> (and send them to that database, of coursE)
[10:45] <jpmartins> Of course :D
[10:46] <buchstabensalat> how much does enabling/disabling compositing affect battery run time?
[10:46] <jpmartins> Well thanks a bunch and have a great day :)
[10:47] <knome> you too
[10:49] <Stek_Turku> ... xubuntu 12.04 lts... apport doesn't work... ??? ubuntu-bug works... i am confused... why?
[10:50] <jpmartins> And a great weekend for all :) mine will be spended surfing... Lisbon has 25º C and mild winds for the weekend with some great waves pumping. For you guys who also love surfing... this is like honey :D
[11:11] <Dabido> Dabido
[11:12] <Dabido> Oops, so this morning when I turned on my box
[11:12] <Dabido> Compositing and windows borders were gone
[11:13] <Dabido> I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 but with the xfce ppa (Thunar 1.6.2)
[11:13] <Dabido> The mouse cursor is always busy, too
[11:14] <Dabido> Any ideas? Or at least, who should I report the bug to?
[11:14] <Dabido> Cheers
[11:15] <knome> Dabido, for starters, the ppa is not officially supported
[11:15] <knome> Dabido, you might want to run xfwm4 to get the window borders back though
[11:17] <Dabido> I understand. However, I'm a little confused as to where should I report the bug. Isn't it the expected thing to do? (I'll check xfwm4)
[11:17] <knome> well... not really, since you are running an unsupported version.
[11:20] <Dabido> Well, aren't some people (Xfce developers, for instance) interested in knowing this kind of things...?
[11:21] <knome> possibly. the point is that your bug might be a regression of you using the ppa
[11:21] <knome> so what is the bug even?
[11:21] <knome> window borders disappearing?
[11:24] <Dabido> No more borders, no compositing (the dock background is black)
[11:24] <knome> did you run xfwm4 already and did it fix your problems?
[11:25] <Dabido> Some fields can't be edited, alt-tab doesn't work and only one desktop (impossible to switch between desktops)
[11:25] <Dabido> Well, I just did and it worked.
[11:25] <Dabido> Thank you very much.
[11:25] <knome> ok, that's known, but we don't know what causes it
[11:26] <knome> usually a non-normal shutdown or something.
[11:26] <Dabido> Ok, sorry for bothering you then
[11:26] <knome> np
[11:26] <Dabido> I did try to look for the answer with a search engine, I promise.
[11:26] <knome> if you want to file bugs against xubuntu and are willing to use a non-LTS release, upgrade to 12.10
[11:26] <knome> (and soon, 13.04)
[11:27] <Dabido> Should I change a value somewhere to prevent this from reoccuring on reboot?
[11:27] <knome> as long as you save your session on logout (or haven't saved it before), you are fine
[11:29] <Dabido> Good to know
[11:30] <Dabido> Well, I sorta of like the idea of LTS even though some of the features I find very useful arrived in xfce only later (hence the ppa)
[11:31] <knome> i can't promise anything, but the "interim" xubuntu releases have been pretty stable in the past as well
[11:31] <knome> i've been using them from the beginning in my production machines, and i've been fine (some upgrades have been problematic, but recoverable)
[11:33] <Dabido> In my (not so long) experience Xubuntu tends to be very reliable indeed.
[12:13] <cadfael> Q: Is there a simple way to drop the titlebar from the window decorations in xfwm? Since I already know the hotkeys, I'd like to dispense with the titlebars if I can...
[12:16] <TheSheep> cadfael: you could probably make a custom theme
[12:17] <TheSheep> cadfael: xfce-terminal also has an option for that, but that's just for the terminal
[12:21] <cadfael> Yes, a custom theme perhaps, or to switch out xfwm for a wm that supports titlebar toggle natively. It would surprise me if I was the first to ask this question. But googling around, I don't see a simpler answer.
[12:22] <TheSheep> cadfael: making themes is not that hard
[12:22] <TheSheep> cadfael: you can look at an existing one and try to modify it
[12:23] <cadfael> Okay then, I will try that first. Surely it can't be that hard. Thank you.
[12:24] <rusman_y_d> cadfael try do to /etc/usr/share/themes/....currenttheme.../xfcwm/ and edit themerc file
[12:24] <rusman_y_d> *go to
[12:24] <TheSheep> make a copy...
[12:38] <cadfael> Thanks again.
[13:24] <xubuntu234> hello all
[13:25] <cfhowlett> xubuntu234, greetings
[13:25] <xubuntu234> anyone here know if it is good voyager 12.04? , I beseech answer
[13:26] <cfhowlett> xubuntu234, umm ... english?
[13:26] <xubuntu234> are from romania
[13:27] <baizon> xubuntu234: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/voyager.html
[13:27] <baizon> xubuntu234: i would recommend xubuntu, voyager isnt that good
[13:27] <GridCube> xubuntu234, voyager its not a recognized distribution
[13:27] <xubuntu234> this is a good operating system?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu234, is good
[13:28] <baizon> xubuntu234: xubuntu > voyager
[13:28] <xubuntu234> which is better? Xubuntu or voyager?
[13:28] <xubuntu234> aha ok
[13:29] <GridCube> xubuntu234, you are asking in #xubuntu, what answer do you expected
[13:29] <baizon> GridCube: the truth :>
[13:29] <xubuntu234> 12.04 Voyager I installed the stick, and after installation, I recognized Grub
[13:30] <SonikkuAmerica> He installed a stick? :)
[13:30] <xubuntu234> now
[13:30] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, ESL  ... pretty sure he meant he installed from a USB stick
[13:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Ah.
[13:31] <xubuntu234> I installed the stick on a hard
[13:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Pardon my Murrica.
[13:31] <xubuntu234> stick with the voyager 12.04
[13:32] <koegs> xubuntu234: just install a plain Xubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 and you are good to go
[13:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Don't know much about Voyager, but I have corresponded with dedoimedo in the past... but yeah, why would I choose it over a French-language Xubuntu
[13:33] <cfhowlett> sacre bleu!
[13:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Voi si je m'inquiète.
[13:34] <xubuntu234> I love Xubuntu is a good operating system
[14:44] <Id_> just installing funbuntu. is it good of hidding gay kiddy porn???
[14:45] <Id_> nah am joking :)
[14:45] <GridCube> !coc | Id_
[14:46] <Id_> not reading
[14:46] <Id_> cant :(
[14:46] <Id_> am a mong
[14:46] <GridCube> well, respect the code of conduct please then, there are things that are not even jokes
[14:47] <Id_> The code of coduct has to earn my respect first!
[14:48] <GridCube> not really
[14:48] <Id_> yeah. unless its not a bruv it dont get no respect nigga
[14:50] <Id_> am sorry i am off me head on jewish blood seeds.
[14:51] <packetfrog> Id_ Take it somewhere else.
[14:51] <Id_> where to?
[14:51] <packetfrog> Try #defocus or #politics
[14:52] <packetfrog> You will have more fun. I assure you.
[14:52] <Id_> ok thanks man. good bye people :)
[14:52]  * packetfrog waves
[14:53] <packetfrog> dont forget to /part #xubuntu and /join #somethingelse
[15:38] <xubuntu065> hello, does xubuntu work well on older hardware? Got a old notebook with intel  celeron 1300 MHz, 512 MB RAM.
[15:39] <baizon> xubuntu065: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[15:39] <baizon> look under Minimum system requirements
[15:40] <GridCube> xubuntu065, lubuntu its recommended, or xubunt 12.04, sadly xubuntu aint recommended for old hardware anymmore
[15:41] <xubuntu065> Tahnk u GridCube, can u recommend a ditstro?
[15:41] <holstein> xubuntu065: lubuntu is what GridCube just recommended.. though, you can try xubuntu live and see
[15:42] <GridCube> puppy, slitaz, tinycore, dsl, slax, lubuntu, all should work xubuntu065
[15:42] <xubuntu065> thank u
[15:43] <xubuntu065> lubuntu probably the fanciest one??
[15:43] <packetfrog> largest of those
[15:43] <packetfrog> :>
[15:43] <GridCube> its ubuntu based, so probably, though slitaz its pretty enough, and puppy its powerful enough, and tinycore its tiny enough, and dsl its too
[15:44] <holstein> xubuntu065: AFAIK, they all have a live mode, try them and see which fits your needs
[15:44] <xubuntu065> imo pupy slitaz dsl all look oldfashiond
[15:44] <xubuntu065> i tried them all already :)
[15:45] <holstein> xubuntu065: if you are looking for a distro for old-fashioned hardware....
[15:45] <GridCube> P: you will gotta live with that with old fashioned hardware xubuntu065,though you can always prettify
[15:47] <xubuntu065> i want it all , fancy look, fast, little, good performance, great hw support. haha :)
[15:48] <koegs> bodhi linux, ubuntu based, E17 window manager
[15:48] <Xajinal> Have you tried enlightenment? It's extremely quick even with a lot of flashy effects
[15:48] <GridCube> i liked slitaz, it looked nice for me
[15:50] <xubuntu065> Haha, i actually supposed to joke and got new dsitros. This is nice.
[15:50] <xubuntu065> Didnt try Lighwight nor bodhi
[15:50] <xubuntu065> thx 4 recommending
[15:51] <holstein> xubuntu065: the hardware support is not a problem.. the memory you have and the celeron might be.. i used to run main ubuntu 10.04 with gnome2 on my celeron 900 with 1 gb of ram.. i would just try some things live and see.. peppermintOS is a nice LXDE implementation
[15:51] <Xajinal> The fastest OS is always one you have compiled from source naturally... so Gentoo might be worth checking out, though it will take more time to configure initially
[15:53] <xubuntu065> Somehow I have the feeling this is a much more friendly community the suse :)
[15:53] <xubuntu065> I'll give the lightweight a try
[15:53] <packetfrog> :)
[15:54] <GridCube> xubuntu065, you can install xfce on puppy and use some fancy theme
[15:55] <xubuntu065> also a very nice idea GridCube
[16:15] <aiena> Is there a way to find out CPU and graphics card and other temperatures in xubuntu
[16:17] <packetfrog> aiena There are dock apps for cpu/hdd/gpu if a remember right
[16:17] <aiena> you mean panel
[16:17] <koegs> aiena: lsusb, lspci or lshw
[16:18] <koegs> oh, sorry, did read that wrong
[16:18] <packetfrog> also apt-get hddtemp sensors-applet
[16:18] <GridCube> !sensors
[16:18] <packetfrog> Thank god for gridcube :)
[16:18] <aiena> hmm what aboutout gpu and mother board temperatures ?
[16:19] <aiena> thanks gridcube for this link though :)
[16:20] <packetfrog> aiena lm sensors does motherboard
[16:20] <GridCube> aiena, all sensors informations is available trhough lmsensors
[16:20] <packetfrog> and gpu apparently :>
[16:20] <aiena> ok wow !! :)
[16:20] <GridCube> you need to add some program that can use lm sensor though, like an applet for the panel, there are many
[16:21] <holstein> aiena: i use conky
[16:22] <aiena> I am a 3D hobbyist so I use my PC for rendering so it can get hot and it does get handy to monitor temperatures
[16:22] <aiena> holstein: will have a look
[16:23] <aiena> holstein: is conky a terminal app like alsamixer or it has a gui and integrates with the desktop ?
[16:23] <holstein> !info conky
[16:24] <packetfrog> aiena Conky makes an overlay on your desktop outputting info for you
[16:24] <holstein> ^^ i use the overlay on the deskop
[16:24] <packetfrog> aiena images.google.com search Conky screenshot and you can see some crazy setups people have
[16:25] <aiena> packetfrog: I have a realtek card on my PC which gives awesome output on WIndowswhen I run ALSAmixer in terminal it list my card so I assume that linux is detecting it butI dont get that good quality sound
[16:25] <aiena> should I install the realtek driver on the website ?
[16:26] <holstein> !audio
[16:27] <packetfrog> ^
[16:27] <holstein> aiena: i would open a terminal and run "aplay -l"
[16:27] <holstein> if you see output there, then, i would move on to "alsamixer" and trust *none* of the labels.. then, to pavucontrol also trusting no labels
[16:28] <aiena> holstein: Built in analog input is listed but not my realtek device
[16:28] <aiena> but alsa mixer list the device
[16:28] <aiena> weird
[16:28] <holstein> aiena: trust *no* labels
[16:29] <aiena> the built in stereo sounds crap
[16:29] <holstein> aiena: built in analog device could be it
[16:29] <holstein> aiena: also, if you are using 2 devices, and you can disable one in the bios, one that you are never going to use anyway.. that can make life easier
[16:30] <aiena> hmm its a laptop so I guess the soundcard is integrated
[16:30] <holstein> aiena: you can check the bios and see if it can be disabled...
[16:39] <Faris> Hi. What's the simplest way to share wi-fi using wi-fi itself ?
[16:39] <Faris> I get internet from Wi-Fi, and I want to share it using the same wi-fi adapter.
[16:39] <Faris> I know it's possible under windows using "Connectify Hotspot"
[16:39] <Faris> Is there such a solution under xubuntu ?
[16:41] <holstein> Faris: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72989/how-to-share-my-wifi-internet-via-wifi
[16:41] <GridCube> Faris, http://askubuntu.com/questions/1385/how-to-set-up-ubuntu-as-wireless-accesspoint
[16:41] <Faris> Thank you!
[16:44] <Faris> by the way, how do we call this kind of wi-fi sharing ?
[16:44] <xfce> ap mode
[16:44] <Faris> ap for access point ?
[16:44] <xfce> check ur adapter first
[16:45] <Faris> It already proved that it could do it under windows
[16:45] <xfce> there is 2 types , ad-hoc and ap
[16:46] <xfce> on ad-hoc u can use encrypt web, on ap mode u can do it wpa wpa2 etc
[16:46] <holstein> Faris: the windows driver support is irrelevant
[16:47] <Faris> is it normal that I may only share with wpa2 encryption ?
[16:47] <Faris> and that I cannot do it without encryption at all?
[16:48] <xfce> no is not, if u can do wpa2 u should be able to do wpa/wep aswell
[17:04] <xubuntu064> Hi all. I need to know how set spanish language in Xubuntu
[17:06] <xubuntu064> I instaled only spanish language and the OS is still in english!
[17:06] <GridCube> xubuntu064, you need the language pack
[17:07] <baizon> xubuntu064: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152032
[17:07] <baizon> xubuntu064: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/setting-languages/
[17:07] <GridCube> :) xubuntu064 you can also come join us in #ubuntu-es if you want to
[17:07] <cgardner> Hey guys, I have a dual screen setup, and it seems that my VGA connected monitor is offset to the left and wrapped.  Has anyone seen this before?
[17:08] <GridCube> offset?
[17:08] <GridCube> you mean like when you maximize a window it doesnt occupy the whole screen?
[17:08] <xubuntu064> thank's for the link
[17:09] <cgardner> GridCube: It does take the whole screen, but it's pushed to the left, and the stuff that should be off the screen is on the right.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/vl1rqagc0e0nwbq/IMG_20130419_100000.jpg
[17:09] <cgardner> That picture shows what it's doing
[17:09] <cgardner> This is a fresh install with only a few packages installed
[17:10] <GridCube> oh i see
[17:11] <cgardner> weird, right?
[17:11] <GridCube> cgardner, see if you dont have over "suposition?" of space using arandr
[17:14] <cgardner> GridCube: how do I do that?
[17:15] <GridCube> open arandr and see
[17:15] <GridCube> with your eyes P:
[17:17] <cgardner> It doesn't look weird, and I moved the screens around a bit to see if it made any differences.  It didn't
[17:21] <GridCube> try changing they orders
[17:21] <GridCube> like one on top of the other or its sides
[17:21] <GridCube> see if that changes something
[17:22] <GridCube> restart xfwm4 with xfwm4 --replace and then restart the panels using xfce4-panel --restart
[17:24] <cgardner> neither worked
[17:25] <GridCube> change the monitor resolutions using arandr?
[17:25] <cgardner> not using arandr, but I did change the resolutions
[17:30] <Cheri703> cgardner, it is not the "officially supported" method, but I installed xfce 4.12 to deal with my dual monitor setup and it has been completely fine for me
[17:30] <Cheri703> I did this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html
[17:31] <cgardner> Cheri703: I tried that yesterday, but I had the same problem.  I re-installed this morning thinking that that was the problem...  Turns out that I was wrong.
[17:31] <cgardner> :(
[17:31] <Cheri703> OHHHH
[17:31] <Cheri703> I know what you're talking about
[17:32] <Cheri703> where when you boot up your mouse goes on to the other screen, right?
[17:32] <Cheri703> boot without the vga monitor connected, then plug it in after. it'll work fine
[17:32] <Cheri703> it's super duper annoying
[17:32] <Cheri703> what video card do you have?
[17:32] <Cheri703> that happens with mine if I use a vga and a non-vga
[17:33] <Cheri703> OR install amd catalyst (if it's an amd card) (though to be fair, this one only worked when I used regular ubuntu, I had hiccups with xubuntu) and you can set it up in there and it's happier
[18:00] <techno__> Hello all, I am looking to get involved with a linux community if someone could point me in the right directions that would be much appreciated
[18:01] <GridCube> techno__, :) please join #xubuntu-devel
[18:01] <techno__> thank you
[18:13] <nantou> dear xubuntu helpers
[18:13] <nantou> the printer is holding a work on hold and i dont know why
[18:14] <nantou> I have cancelled it several times, after waiting for 5 minutes only to see that it didnt do anything
[18:15] <GridCube> Cheri703, P: this might be your area of expertise
[18:16] <Cheri703> I'd suggest rebooting both printer and computer and trying it again
[18:17] <packetfrog> nantou This is the ubuntu printer troubleshooting page, for reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[20:24] <xubuntu815> another successful install  :)
[20:25] <xubuntu815> quick question - what is the best way to get vpn set up against a checkpoint fw?
[20:26] <xubuntu815> anyone had success with that?
[20:28] <xubuntu815> i spend a few hours with snx and various vpnc kvpn etc configs but none worked, hoping xubuntu is a bit better
[23:38] <cadfael> Q: In thunar, I often use the ctrl-S hotkey to find useful files with "Select by Pattern". It's a great feature, but it would be even better if it was case-insensitive. Didnt see anything in thunarrc about this. Does anyone know howto fix this plz?
[23:39] <packetfrog> Sorry I do no not.   Im just a user like you though.
[23:40] <packetfrog> You should be able to use Regex
[23:41] <packetfrog> something like [gG][a-bA-B].*
[23:45] <cadfael> Of course, and yes I know to do regex. But writing regular expressions isn't the fastest way to search. Ctrl-S is already super-useful, case-insensitive would just make it a little quicker.
[23:46] <cadfael> Anyhow, if case-insensitive isnt avail, then I will have to make do. Maybe lodge a feature request somewhere.


[18:15] <leaftype> boodllebat, I'm trying to find confirmation, but for some reason I thought they switched to a swapfile by default
[18:15] <ikonia> boodllebat: the #ubuntu-ops channel can also help
[18:15] <BluesKaj> boodllebat, yes, i assume you need to save the efibootmanager partition,but not sure whether grub replaces it or not
[18:15] <boodllebat> ikonia: do i need to install efibootmanager as i'm done installing ?
[18:15] <ikonia> boodllebat: why do you need moderator help?
[18:16] <tomreyn> myraft_: glad we could work it out, have fun.
[18:16] <BluesKaj> ikonia, just go ahead and help him, you're the "moderator" :-)
[18:17] <boodllebat> ikonia: i am confused if ubuntu 16.10 will handle boot on its own or i need to config things up
[18:17] <boodllebat> ikonia: i'm new to uefi and stuff
[18:17] <ikonia> boodllebat: ok - so you don't need moderators
[18:17] <ikonia> boodllebat: you just want someone to help you, as people in this channel where already doing
[18:18] <boodllebat> ikonia: no they said they dont know about uefi in detail
[18:18] <ikonia> boodllebat: but they will work it through with you
[18:18] <boodllebat> ikonia: so i thought moderators are there with formal knowledge , dont ignore your work please :P
[18:18] <ioria> boodllebat, if you install in efi mode efibootmgr will be automatically installed
[18:19] <boodllebat> ioria: thanks a lot :)
[18:19] <ioria> boodllebat, no prob
[18:19] <boodllebat> ioria: so i dont need to do a thing right ?
[18:19] <boodllebat> ioria: as soon as installation is done i restart ?
[18:20] <ioria> boodllebat, yes... why do you ask ?
[18:20] <ioria> boodllebat, usually the issue is sharing with win the esp partition
[18:20] <sruli> is it possible to reset ubuntu on each boot?
[18:20] <boodllebat> ioria: soory just scared , cause last time my cousin did it and windows took over when he restarted so he had to switch to legecy mode
[18:20] <ioria> boodllebat,  i see
[18:21] <boodllebat> sorry*
[18:22] <BluesKaj> ioria, isn't there an issue with grub not listing the windows partition in some cases after installation?
[18:23] <ioria> BluesKaj, yes
[18:23] <BluesKaj> os-prober ?
[18:24] <ioria> BluesKaj,  yeah
[18:24] <boodllebat> about to complete my installation , just hope everything goes fine :\
[18:26] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, I'm still learning about uefi too...made the mistake of erasing my laptop hdd and installing kubuntu in legacy mode using a dos table instead of gpt
[18:26] <BluesKaj> ioria,^
[18:26] <ioria> BluesKaj,  ah....
[18:26] <boodllebat> BluesKaj: are you also an ubuntu moderator ?
[18:27] <ioria> we are all moderators
[18:27] <Guest12055> Ubuntu is for lifeless zombies that torture kittens and soak in their blood. Ubuntu is a cult.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> boodllebat, we hqve no "moderators" here just volunteers who try to help
[18:27] <boodllebat> i mean moderators who get paid by Ubuntu ?
[18:28] <ioria> boodllebat, volunteer != paid
[18:28] <BluesKaj> boodllebat, none that i know of
[18:29] <boodllebat> ioria: i know that , i just wanted to know are there any mods who get paid by Ubuntu
[18:29] <tomreyn> sruli: you could work with the gues account
[18:29] <tomreyn> * guest
[18:29] <ioria> boodllebat, really idk, sy
[18:30] <sruli> tomreyn: i need sudo ... was thinking of using lvm, questions is how long should it take to revert changes if the session has changed ~1gb of files?
[18:30] <tomreyn> sruli: there is no native mechanism for resetting all of ubuntu upon reboot (that i'm aware of). what's the greater goal there?
[18:30] <boodllebat> Yes completeted installation :D
[18:30] <boodllebat> everything working fine
[18:30] <ioria> hurra
[18:31] <boodllebat> ioria: thanks
[18:31] <boodllebat> BluesKaj: thanks
[18:31] <ioria> boodllebat, you're wlcm
[18:31] <BluesKaj> boodllebat, np
[18:32] <tomreyn> sruli: lvm snapshotting would probably be the way to go there. there more oyu can limit the locations where retores need to take place, the better in term sof performance, time to restore.
[18:33] <sruli> tomreyn: i guess almost all of the changes will be in /home/ before i start messing with it if anyone can give a ballpark figure as a guide for  how long should it take to revert changes if the session has changed ~1gb of files?
[18:34] <anli> I seem to not be able to switch from unity to gnome-session-flashback, I can pick it, but when logged in, its unity anyway
[18:35] <tomreyn> sruli: how long it would take to restore a previous snapshot after a given amount of data (1 gb) has changed depends much on the speed of the storage media. it would probably be close to instant on a RAM disk, on a hard disk it could take a minute or some minutes. there are other, less impacting factors which matter, too.
[18:35] <deiks> how to avoid problems about "Unknown Display"
[18:36] <sruli> tomreyn: is it possible to use lvm in reverse? basically writing new data to snapshot and discard on shutdown, therby avoiding the need to revert
[18:36] <tomreyn> sruli: but this is somewhat of a theoretic discussion unless you can come up with a way to automate it, i guess. and i'm not aware of one (though i imagine such can very well exist).
[18:37] <Bashing-om> deiks: Where and what prompts the "Unknown Display" ? Maybe install a graphic's driver ??
[18:37] <deiks> tried from additional drivers, and also downloading from site ..
[18:38] <tomreyn> sruli: yes, with newer lvm versions you can write new data to a snapshot and have it discarded on shutdown. see the man page for relevant details.
[18:38] <deiks> when i go to "Displays", there i see unknown display
[18:38] <tomreyn> ... and limitations
[18:38] <boodllebat> now i am going to play video games on windows
[18:38] <sruli> tomreyn: will take a read, thanks
[18:38] <boodllebat> bye bye
[18:38] <boodllebat> thanks a lot everyone
[18:39] <tomreyn> now  i am going to play video games on linux
[18:39] <deiks> Bashing-om: :)
[18:39] <Remind> Hey all. Does anyone here use VirtualBox by chance? I've had an issue with the clipboard not working in any direction between host/guest on any of my VM's
[18:39] <Bashing-om> deiks: Pastebin the output of - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - we see what it is that we are working with .
[18:41] <deiks> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23689547/
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Remind  that's more for #virtualbox
[18:41] <Remind> Alright, thanks MonkeyDust
[18:43] <rj__> hello
[18:43] <rj__> help
[18:44] <Bashing-om> deiks: nVidia recommends the 375 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/112992/en-us . Show what is installed now ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' See what we need to clean up .
[18:45] <sruli> tomreyn: not much about snatpshot in "man lvm" is there a man page specifically for snapshots?
[18:47] <user_> hi merry x mas
[18:47] <deiks> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23689579/ i think i tried it already, but let's try again
[18:48] <user_> ,,
[18:51] <Bashing-om> deiks: K. run ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install nvidia-375 ; sudo reboot ' . See what it looks like on the other side.
[18:54] <GALL0> what do I have to edit in terminal to ssh from an external ip? I know my server ip,
[18:54] <GALL0> currently I can only ssh from local network but want to be able to connect from outside my network
[18:55] <sruli> GALL0: open the port on you rinternet connection?
[18:55] <GALL0> already have port forwarding set to the new port I changed
[18:55] <GALL0> its no long port 22, and my router is changed to reflect that
[18:56] <sruli> GALL0: what do you get when you try to connect?
[18:56] <GALL0> `ssh: connect to host <externalIP> port <newNumber>: Connection refused
[18:58] <GALL0> nevermind
[18:58] <deiks_> Bashing-om: still same :(
[18:58] <GALL0> typed `-p###` instead of `-p ###`
[18:59] <sruli> GALL0: sounds like the port you configured in sshd_config is not the same as the one you have forwarding to the machine from your router/fw
[18:59] <sruli> ok
[19:00] <Bashing-om> deiks_: Then we look at what X thinks about the situation : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[19:00] <waltman> I'm trying to install the latest ubuntu-desktop off a flash drive. It has a newish nvidia card and I had issues with the monitor not syncing, so I tried booting with "vga=771" and "nomodeset". Now I'm just getting a mouse pointer on a black screen. Any advice?
[19:02] <deiks_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23689638/
[19:03] <Bashing-om> deiks_: reading. I be awhile :)
[19:03] <deiks_> thnx ;)
[19:03] <waltman> I don't suppose there's any way to do a pure-ascii install?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> waltman  the server istallation and the !mini installation
[19:06] <waltman> Are there any other options I can try with this desktop iso?
[19:07] <i-make-robots> hi ubuntu.  I'm getting logrotate errors.  where is the best place to ask about fixing them, please?
[19:08] <waltman> MonkeyDust: If not, can I do a server install and then add packages to get the desktop?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> waltman  sure
[19:09] <sruli> i am trying to find how to make a lv snapshot and write new date to snapshot only so can discard changes later, google not helping much, nothing in lvm man page
[19:09] <sruli> \\ new data ^
[19:10] <waltman> OK, time to put server on this flash drive…
[19:13] <Bashing-om> deiks_: The driver is loaded " NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete >> NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia " I see no problems with the driver . however what is " config/udev: Adding input device UVC Camera (046d:0825) (/dev/input/event14) " Is this a mouse ? or as the name implies a camera device ?
[19:14] <deiks_> Bashing-om: yes, there's camera connected
[19:15] <Bashing-om> deiks_: " evdev: UVC Camera (046d:0825): Configuring as keyboard " .. huh ?? what results if the camaera is not connected ?
[19:16] <deiks_> do i need to reboot?
[19:16] <deiks_> Bashing-om:
[19:17] <tomreyn> sruli: sorry, i meant lvcreate(8)
[19:17] <Bashing-om> deiks_: Yeah I would . If you still have no GUI . see then if you gain the GUI from a guest account .
[19:18] <deiks_> sec
[19:20] <deiks> Bashing-om: still cant see desired resolution :D
[19:21] <Bashing-om> deiks: But you now have a display ? what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[19:22] <deiks> i had both displays since first install
[19:23] <deiks> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23689723/
[19:24] <sruli> tomreyn: it describes snapshot for writing to original lv, i am trying to find how to write to snapshot instead
[19:24] <deiks> be right back
[19:25] <Bashing-om> deiks: Using a depreciated /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file ?
[19:27] <deiks_> Bashing-om: tried with one display but still nothing
[19:28] <scde> Hi, is there a way to check if my optical drive is failing? I have very strange behaviour with burned audio cds.
[19:29] <Bashing-om> deiks_: " but still nothing" I read as a black screen .. that is not the case ? And dies the config file exist ' ls -al /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' ?
[19:30] <deiks_> Bashing-om: it shows screen, but with lower resolution, both displays, and in "Displays" they are marked as "Unknown display"
[19:32] <jpvega> Anyway to share a video with downloading restrictions? i understand the screen record possibility, but at least the option to view without downloading actual video?
[19:32] <jpvega> please and thanks for any suggestions
[19:32] <Bashing-om> deiks_: By - in "Displays" they are - you are refrring to using nvidia settings ? Terminal so far sees no problems .
[19:34] <jerry__> hi
[19:34] <jerry__> hello all
[19:34] <jerry__> how are yall hey reddrgns
[19:35] <jerry__> does anyone know how to change the plymouth boot on mint 18
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[19:35] <jerry__> damnit
[19:36] <jerry__> ok thanks
[19:36] <deiks_> Bashing-om: http://pasteboard.co/ez02SGroF.png
[19:43] <Bashing-om> deiks_: Sorry, that image will not load for me in my browser .
[19:43] <deiks_> Bashing-om: how about https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/ez02SGroF.png
[19:45] <Bashing-om> deiks_: Yeah. no problem with that one . OK, can you change the resolution in that GUI ?
[19:48] <deiks_> Bashing-om: yes, i can change to: 1152x864 (or lower, or 1368x768 but display is stretched on this) but native for my displays is 1680x1050
[19:48] <jpvega> test?
[19:48] <deiks_> so i can't see that 1680x1050
[19:50] <Bashing-om> deiks_: Sorry, out of my experience range now .
[19:50] <deiks_> :(
[19:50] <deiks_> thanks then
[19:52] <scde> Has someone an idea why a burned audio cd would show up as a blank disk?
[19:53] <Bashing-om> deiks_: I will be interested in the solution. xrandr ? : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution .
[19:54] <deiks_> yeah, trying right now
[19:54] <sruli> i am trying to find how to make a lv snapshot and write new date to snapshot only so can discard changes later, google not helping much, how do i achieve this?
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> sruli  if it can be done at all
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> sruli  there's also #lvm
[19:56] <sruli> MonkeyDust: it can, found many articles about it, none explaining how to do ti
[19:57] <sruli> will give them a try
[19:57] <sruli> 91 people in the room.. not holding my breath...
[20:04] <Backwards> Hello.
[20:10] <deiks_> Bashing-om: i give up.
[20:11] <Backwards> Can anyone explain if setting up an IRCD server with ubuntu that Anope and Inspircd2 should be either working on a 32 or 64 bit machine. Has anyone experienced this?
[20:11] <Bashing-om> deiks_: Well . no give up .. just back up and regroup . Wish I had the experience here to offer .
[20:11] <ikonia> Backwards: whats the actual problem
[20:12] <tomreyn> sruli: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshotintro.html
[20:12] <Backwards> Ikonia thanks for asking but, I have scoured the entire internet and every website has something different that doesn't work with the nexus website.
[20:12] <ikonia> nexus website ?
[20:12] <ikonia> what has that got to do with anything
[20:13] <Backwards> Ikonia I meant by nexus that the next website visited is more confusing that the third for forth website.
[20:13] <ikonia> Backwards: so whats your actual problem
[20:15] <Backwards> Above I asked if anyone has encountered working with Anope or Inspircd2 and has had any issues with their actual Ubuntu box i.e., UNIX box.
[20:15] <ikonia> Backwards: what is the problem YOU have
[20:15] <ikonia> not what others have had
[20:17] <Backwards> I compiled Anope which is "Chanserv" on my server and when I read the directives the people who wrote the directives didn't properly word the instructions in a basic way for someone new to it.
[20:17] <ikonia> why are you compiling things
[20:17] <sruli> tomreyn: yes i saw that one, same as the rest, no instructions on how to achieve it
[20:17] <ikonia> are there no ubuntu packages
[20:17]  * Anonymous2016 slaps aleb around a bit with a large trout
[20:17]  * Anonymous2016 slaps akkad around a bit with a large trout
[20:17]  * Anonymous2016 slaps Acn0w around a bit with a large trout
[20:17] <ikonia> Anonymous2016: stop please
[20:18] <tomreyn> sruli: lvm is redhat technology, and they like not to document things too well publically so they can sell consulting hours.
[20:18] <Backwards> Ikonia, the instructions was to download the tar.gz file and compile it based upon if your machine was a 32 bit or 64 bit.
[20:18] <ikonia> Backwards: the easy way to approach this is to use an IRC server that is packaged in the ubuntu repo
[20:19] <ioria> !info anope
[20:19] <Backwards> Ikonia I have a working IRCD server right now. The issue is getting straight answers with my original question.
[20:19] <sruli> tomreyn: lvm2 has been around for years, just spent more then an hour searching the net, apart form the 20 articles stating how amazing it is that you can achieve this with lvm2, cant find anything explaing how to do it
[20:19] <ikonia> Backwards: you're not ansking clear questions
[20:19] <ikonia> Backwards: what is the problem YOU currently have
[20:20] <Backwards> I was asking if anyone has installed Anope with Inspircd2
[20:20] <ikonia> Backwards: why ?
[20:20] <ikonia> Backwards: are you having a problem with it ?
[20:20] <OerHeks> Backwards, you state you have it working, but ask for anyone with issues?
[20:20] <tomreyn> sruli: thanks for confirming what i just said. still, it's not a super spoecial use case, and seems quite simple really. you create a snapshot, theny ou write to the snapshot.
[20:21] <Backwards> My IRCD server works just fine.
[20:21] <EriC^^> Backwards: install the ubuntu package instead of compiling
[20:21] <ioria> !info inspircd
[20:21] <EriC^^> Backwards: nobody compiles these days i guess
[20:22] <Backwards> That is fine Ubotu and C++ is also in different versions like gcc++ and so forth.
[20:22] <tomreyn> charybdis + atheme > inspircd + anope IMO, but ymmv
[20:22] <sruli> tomreyn: how do i  write to the snapshot instead of the original? in standard snapshot case it will write new data to original, i am not sure but it might only be a switch that i need..
[20:23] <tomreyn> sruli: you mount the snapshot device, and write to it?
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[20:24] <EriC^^> Backwards: it's pretty old school to compile now-a-days
[20:24] <EriC^^> Backwards: although fun
[20:24] <tomreyn> sruli: i.e. you use it like any other block device / file system.
[20:24] <EriC^^> Backwards: stick with the ubuntu packages and you'll also get updates whenever the maintainer releases them and ubuntu picks them up
[20:25] <sruli> tomreyn: doesnt help, what if for example i do apt dist-upgrade? will that write to original or snapshot
[20:25] <EriC^^> and just "man <program>" to read about how to use stuff
[20:25] <tomreyn> sruli: depends on where you mount stuff, i guess
[20:26] <Backwards> EriC^^ I usually do an apt-get install <package> but I have reservations on whether the package is reliable from the Repositories.
[20:26] <EriC^^> Backwards: what reservations
[20:26] <sruli> tomreyn: if i dismount the original and mount that snapshot i wont really have a os will i?
[20:26] <Backwards> Not all packages are up to date.
[20:26] <EriC^^> Backwards: that's true
[20:26] <ikonia> Backwards: why is that a problem
[20:27] <EriC^^> Backwards: the security issues are up to date though usually
[20:27] <Backwards> You can install a new install and then use sudo apt-get update and it retro-grades the package.
[20:27] <EriC^^> so it's mainly just features and support
[20:27] <ikonia> Backwards: no it doesn't
[20:27] <ikonia> Backwards: what is the problem you have come to this channel for ?
[20:28] <EriC^^> ikonia: he needs help on the directives used for compiling his chanserv stuff
[20:28] <ikonia> EriC^^: ahhh, well done, I'd not got that from him
[20:28] <ikonia> the answer is "use the package
[20:28] <ikonia> if you want your own custom stuff - you should be able to build it
[20:28] <Backwards> Ikonia I wanted to hear some human voices rather than search websites. I don't mind being corrected if I am doing something not right.
[20:28] <ikonia> Backwards: then use the ubuntu provided packages
[20:30] <EriC^^> Backwards: i think asking in the forum or channel for the specific package would get you more responses
[20:30] <Guest16707> hi
[20:30] <Backwards> Ikonia I truly appreciate your input. It means a lot as well as you EriC^^. Thanks in advance for your observations.
[20:31] <EriC^^> hi Guest16707
[20:31] <k00l3th4n> Does anyone have experience with windows managers here?
[20:32] <ikonia> k00l3th4n: just ask the real question
[20:32] <k00l3th4n> I'm using Mate and after an upgrade it stopped working. What is the first step to resolve this issue?
[20:32] <EriC^^> k00l3th4n: stopped working how?
[20:33] <ikonia> k00l3th4n: you'll need to describe better than "stopped workig"
[20:33] <k00l3th4n> As in the entire windows manager stopped working. There are no window borders.
[20:34] <k00l3th4n> I'm currently on ParrotOS with the Mate DE.
[20:34] <Backwards> k00l3th4n Your first mistake is that you perhaps did not do a system backup which Windows has a System Restore. Always use: System Restore Point before any installation. Then you will be able to restore your Windows box as it was before installing anything.
[20:35] <k00l3th4n> You can make a restore point for linux?
[20:35] <Backwards> Never install anything without backups.
[20:36] <k00l3th4n> Please point me in the right directions to get familar with this method. I always backup my /home before an upgrade but not the system.
[20:36] <ioria> lol
[20:36] <Backwards> Yes. Windows is not Linux but if you create a mirror image of the hard drive, you can back up anything.
[20:37] <k00l3th4n> I'm not using Windows. I'm using Linux... Not a VM either.
[20:37] <EriC^^> k00l3th4n: does it work if you try to create a new user?
[20:37] <k00l3th4n> EriC^^: Let me try real quick.
[20:39] <Backwards> One method is using my favorite VBOX by SunMicrosystems. You can make any stupid mistake or anything and you can clone the original and experiment with it. You can put any OS on VBOX. I recommend using that method first.
[20:40] <Backwards> VBOX is free.
[20:40] <k00l3th4n> EriC^^: It doesn't work when i create a new user. Also, in the 'windows' settings it says windows manager is upsupported.
[20:41] <ioria> k00l3th4n,  what is this Parrot os ?
[20:41] <Backwards> If you get that error message it may mean that you don't have Administrator permissions.
[20:41] <k00l3th4n> ioria: It's a pentesting distro like kali.
[20:42] <ioria> k00l3th4n,  i see
[20:42] <k00l3th4n> ioria: it's a great distro too. it's a new distro so there are bugs
[20:43] <ioria> k00l3th4n,  of course
[20:43] <k00l3th4n> Backwards: I don't like using VMs. This build in my main rig
[20:44] <k00l3th4n> ioria: You should check it out. Kali is great too, but parrotos has the mate de.
[20:44] <Backwards> When there are bugs there are error messages. Using VM an I am not referrring to VMware. VBOX is a great way to experiment and solve your issues before installing an OS or kernel on a Hard Box.
[20:44] <ioria> k00l3th4n,  i see Mate it's the default de
[20:46] <k00l3th4n> Backwards: I know what you mean. I haven't had any issues until now with this distro. I think I'm just gonna reinstall.
[20:47] <ioria> k00l3th4n,  try (if you have it) the Guest account then check you video driver, then your environment variables
[20:47] <k00l3th4n> Is there a method to backup an entire linux system with restore points... like windows?
[20:47] <blackflow> virtualbox taints the kernel and "voids the warranty", and if you have kernel issues with vboxdrv present, you're on your own. it's also now owned by Oracle which says a lot about it. if you want quality linux native virtualization, use KVM.
[20:48] <slicktux> Anyone here using the Ubuntu with the Acer C710 Chrome Book? If so, were you able to get the hotkeys for, say, volume binded?
[20:49] <k00l3th4n> ioria: It's not a driver issue or anything like that. It has to do with the default windows manager not being supported anymore. This update just came out today so there havne't been bug reports yet. I did a blind dist-upgrade and something went wrong. I was just wondering if there was a way to reconfigure the default windows manager.
[20:50] <ioria> k00l3th4n, which is in your case ?
[20:50] <ioria> openbox
[20:50] <ioria> ?
[20:51] <k00l3th4n> ioria: marco
[20:51] <Backwards> k00l3th4n Backing up your Linux box is easy.  I am a professional Data Recovery Expert.
[20:53] <slicktux> depending on how yer backing up and what. . . I back up /home/user to an external HDD. . .
[20:53] <ioria> k00l3th4n, i see mate and openbox as defaults
[20:54] <Backwards> I get paid $300.00/hour for what I do.
[20:54] <nedstark> I am a professional DJ, but i give financial advise on the side
[20:54] <slicktux> if it is the whole OS then make replcate partitions, sda*, and rsync -aHAX /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[20:54] <blackflow> Backwards: good luck with that, meanwhile stop giving bad advice here.
[20:54] <k00l3th4n> ioria: that's weird when I went to deconf the default was marco
[20:54] <ioria> k00l3th4n, weird, yes
[20:54] <ioria> k00l3th4n, lets try ubuntu :þ
[20:55] <k00l3th4n> ioria: So how do I change it to openbox. I install openbox and changed it in deconf but still no windows manager.
[20:56] <ioria> k00l3th4n, you can surely remove any de you installed, and reinstall it properly
[20:56] <blackflow> k00l3th4n: Parrot OS doesn't have much to do with Ubuntu, or am I wrong?
[20:57] <ioria> not you're not
[20:57] <blackflow> so it's kinda offtopic here, no?
[20:57] <k00l3th4n> Backwards: I think it is debian based.
[20:57] <tomreyn> sruli: i ahven't tested it, but i guess you can either mount or bind-mount the snapshot on top of the original mount. it's probably safer to mount elsewhere and chroot into it.
[20:58] <k00l3th4n> Backwards: Yes, it kinda is. But I'm talking about the Mate DE so it kinda does.
[20:58] <Backwards> k00l3th4n If you want you can msg me and I can help you.
[20:58] <ikonia> k00l3th4n: I'd advise against that
[20:58] <onla> is there some nice way to mvoe files between devices in LAN if I have problems mounting phone to linux
[20:58] <blackflow> k00l3th4n: Mate DE is not Ubuntu specific product. Ubuntu MATE is Ubuntu with MATE desktop envrionment, if that's what you were thinking.
[20:58] <k00l3th4n> I'm gonna try a few things and reboot. I'll be back guys. Thanks.
[20:59] <Backwards> Ikonia, what is your problem. You have a puffed up attitude about yourself. As if you are the foremost authority on everything. Take a break. Stop insulting people you don't know.
[20:59] <blackflow> onla: several network based filesystems, like NFS itself, Samba, ... depending what you want exactly
[20:59] <ikonia> Backwards: I have no problem and I'm not insulting anyway
[20:59] <ikonia> anyone even
[21:00] <ikonia> Backwards: getting help in private is a bad idea from anyone as there is no-one there to vet the information being given
[21:00] <Backwards> You just proved it to 1,790 people on this channel that you are very insulting.
[21:00] <Bashing-om> onla: This may give you some ideas : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[21:00] <onla> i want my mom to be able to easily move pictures from iphone to ubuntu. I was thinking that as this linux pc is on the same LAN, mabe she could connect some way easily
[21:00] <ikonia> Backwards: no, I just proved that I'm protecting a user from getting possibly bad information unvetted
[21:00] <tomreyn> sruli: unomounting file systems will obviously not work for file systems which have locked FSOs
[21:01] <tomreyn> (so dont unmount)
[21:01] <onla> Bashing-om: ok thanks Ill take a look
[21:02] <Backwards> Ikonia, you don't have the answer and if someone can help in at least a small way or large way, you have no right to insult a visitor here. Get a life and get a job and go to work and learn about the real world.
[21:02] <Bashing-om> onla: ^ Do not think will apply in your case :(
[21:02] <ikonia> Backwards: I've not read the question, I simply advised a user not to get help in private. Drop the atittude please.
[21:03] <tomreyn> Administrator dropped his connection instead
[21:03] <blackflow> onla: I don't know much about iPhones, but there's "MTP", eg. android phones can connect to linux using that mode. is that available on iPhone?
[21:05] <onla> not sure. I tried one method but I had too old some libimobiledevice version probably for ifuse to work and someone who compiled a newer got rid of an error msg I got so I am trying smth else
[21:05] <onla> cus i dont want to compile from sources for this now
[21:06] <blackflow> onla: well, when I connect an android to ubuntu with an usb cable, the phone provides modes of connection, one of which is MTP (Media Transfer Protocol), and selecting that will give me access to the phone's storage
[21:06] <blackflow> is something like that available on iphone?
[21:07] <onla> no
[21:07] <onla> gtg, I try smth tomorrow. There is some afp://
[21:08] <tomreyn> absymal file protocol
[21:08] <blackflow> onla: afc
[21:08] <blackflow> onla: and here, I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/704669/how-to-move-files-between-ubuntu-and-iphone/704677#704677
[21:10] <ed_pls> Don't fight pls :C
[21:11] <waltman> I got through a server install and decided I wanted to redo it with a different partitioning scheme. But now when it offers to partition the drives, the SSDs aren't even listed!
[21:11] <waltman> WTF?
[21:11] <waltman> And if I don't do it this way, how can I resize the filesystem on my root partition?
[21:13] <Andy80> hi, probably an hot question, but do you have any ETA about the libphp-phpmailer patched release, please?
[21:13] <tomreyn> waltman: you may need to reboot and redo the installation from scratch, since making the linux kernel (or that of any other OS) update partition tables during runtime is not guaranteed to succeed.
[21:14] <tomreyn> waltman: and this *might* be why ssd's can no longer be repartitioned. that's just a wild guess, though. you could show a screne shot.
[21:14] <tomreyn> *screen shot
[21:14] <waltman> It never did ask me to confirm its default partitioning scheme during the initial install.
[21:14] <blackflow> Andy80: you ask because of CVE-2016-10033?
[21:15] <waltman> tomreyn: I'm TRYING to reinstall, but it's not listing the drives I used.
[21:15] <tomreyn> Andy80: there are never any ETAs for patches.
[21:15] <blackflow> Andy80: the package is in universe, so it's community effort, meaning no idea when it's gonna be patched, and if :)
[21:16] <tomreyn> waltman: hmm this is unusual indeed. and you didn not make any other changes in the mentime, such as changing bios / raid configurations etc?
[21:16] <waltman> no.
[21:17] <waltman> All I did was run apt-get update/dist-upgrade.
[21:17] <tomreyn> waltman: can you spawn a shell (escape to main menu of installer, select last or last but one option), and run lsblk?
[21:18] <waltman> lsblk: not found
[21:18] <tomreyn> waltman: if lsblk doesn't work, do "cat /proc/partitions" instead
[21:18] <waltman> it's showing sda
[21:19] <waltman> and a whole screenful of other things
[21:20] <tomreyn> waltman: you said SSD*S*, as in plural, so i guess sda is rather the device your installer runs from
[21:20] <waltman> yeah, they're hardware raid 0
[21:20] <tomreyn> waltman: maybe your SSDs are actually NVMes and not SSDs?
[21:20] <waltman> SVM?
[21:20] <waltman> NVM?
[21:20] <Root1204> hello
[21:21] <waltman> they're 2 physical SSDs.
[21:21] <tomreyn> waltman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express
[21:21] <blackflow> waltman: I do have to ask.... you're running SSDs in Raid 0? You're aware of what tha means for data durability?
[21:21] <waltman> No.
[21:21] <waltman> So I *don't* want to mirrow them?
[21:22] <waltman> mirror
[21:22] <blackflow> waltman: you do, but that's Raid 1, not 0
[21:22] <tomreyn> waltman: okay you need to find out whether sda is the HW RAID over your SSDs or whether its the device the installer is running form.
[21:22] <waltman> sorry, let me check.
[21:22] <blackflow> 0 doubles the chances of one disk failure blowing your entire data away
[21:22] <waltman> Sorry, raid1
[21:22] <blackflow> mkay. :)
[21:23] <waltman> I told the bios to boot from "usb hd" just like when I did the initial install.
[21:24] <Root1204> Has anyone install ubuntu on a chromebook without using crouton?
[21:24] <waltman> also it's not mounted
[21:24] <WeiJunLi> those segfaults are due that _libc_fork assertion? http://dpaste.com/04CVHQY
[21:24] <waltman> oh wait, it IS mounted!
[21:24] <waltman> it mounted /dev/sda1 on /media
[21:25] <waltman> Can I get it to not do that?
[21:26] <Ben64> waltman: i'm confused. what are you trying to do, what is happening
[21:29] <waltman> I have 4 drives in this box, 2 250GB SSDs and 2 4TB HDs. The 2 SSDs are hardware raid 1. My bios doesn't support hardware raid for drives that big, so they're just plain old drives right now. I did an install, but I want to redo the partitioning on the SSDs.
[21:29] <ikonia> waltman: if it's "bios" I doubt it's hardware raid
[21:29] <transhuman> hi i am getting the following error /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmrc: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/libunity-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: g_settings_new
[21:29] <ikonia> it's more likley fakeraid
[21:29] <transhuman> anyone know how to fix this on ubuntu 16.04
[21:29] <waltman> bios raid, whatever.
[21:29] <ikonia> waltman: it matters
[21:30] <ikonia> transhuman: looks like it's incompatible with the version you are running
[21:30] <transhuman> seems as if support of g_settings_new is not available in the built in version of libunity-gtk-module.so
[21:30] <waltman> But now when I try to reinstall, it's mounting /dev/sda1 (which should be raid'ed with sda2 as /media.
[21:30] <transhuman> can i custom compile this libary if so is there directions on doing so
[21:30] <waltman> So my only options are to install ubuntu to the 4TB drives.
[21:30] <ikonia> transhuman: strongly advised not to
[21:31] <ikonia> transhuman: more so without understanding why it's missing, eg: deprecated
[21:31] <TheSilentLink> hello
[21:31] <waltman> I can undo the raid in the bios if that would be better.
[21:31] <ikonia> waltman: it's probably not recognising the fake raid
[21:31] <ikonia> (hence why I said fakeraid matters)
[21:31] <blackflow> waltman: you always have the option to build the array yourself with mdadm. bios/fakeraid is worst there is.
[21:31] <waltman> will the installer do that?
[21:32] <blackflow> waltman: no idea, I always do it manually.
[21:32] <waltman> Or do I just install to /dev/sda1 and then setup the raid separately?
[21:32] <transhuman> I need to solve my current vmware fling console problem with the desktop mouse pointer failing to line after it times out and goes to sleep...the other way to "solve" this problem is to set a timeout value for the vmware fling to infinity but I can't seem to locate this setting either
[21:32] <blackflow> waltman: I suppose you can pre-create the mdX devices and use them for the installer to install root and other partitions on
[21:33] <ikonia> transhuman: I don't see how setting a timeout will fix a library
[21:33] <transhuman> I was hoping the gtk console would be installable to get around this problem
[21:33] <transhuman> its too drastically different ways of solving one problem (too different angles) I guess I am stuck
[21:33] <waltman> OK, let's see if I can figure out how do undo the raid on this bios...
[21:34] <transhuman> the libary is to get the vmrc console working in Ubuntu while the timeout is with the web client
[21:38] <tomreyn> waltman: which server hardware and RAID controller is this?
[21:39] <Lemon_Haz> i am asking more simple question
[21:39] <Lemon_Haz> wich country is this
[21:39] <waltman> tomreyn: it's a gigabyte 78lmt motherboard
[21:40] <tomreyn> waltman: so its actually not a server hardware platform, and certainly fakeraid
[21:41] <tomreyn> waltman: i.e. use software RAID (or no RAID at all)
[21:44] <waltman> OK, I think I just turned it off.
[21:44] <tomreyn> remote power off but no remote power control?
[21:46] <wiggmpk> Anyone wanna help me figure out why vinagre is automatically starting after reboot/login? Nothing showing up in ~/.config/autostart or /etc/xdg/autostart
[21:47] <waltman> OK, that fixed it. If I choose "Guided", will it give me a chance to partition the way I want, or just I just choose "manual"?
[21:47] <tomreyn> waltman: just manual
[21:48] <waltman> ok, thanks
[21:48] <wiggmpk> waltman: guided will partion /boot swap and fill up the rest with /
[21:48] <waltman> It should really say that then!
[21:49] <tomreyn> not much space there, it probably does in some documentation
[21:49] <sruli> while doing a update on a new install (16.04) the update process hung, i cancelled it and tried again but i get a error unable to lock /var/lib/dpkg/ i checked with ps for /var/lib/dpkg/ and i get "/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/infor/cryptsetup.prerm remove" and another line "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/cryptsetup.prerm remove" also my file explorer seems mest up, icon images have gone (all dirs look like unrecognised files http://im
[21:49] <wiggmpk> waltman: agreed, but I believe it's geared towards the novice that wouldn't necessary care or know how to separate partitions.
[21:49] <tomreyn> but it surely would help, i agree
[21:49] <waltman> No, what it says is that you'll get a chance to review it, when you really don't.
[21:50] <wiggmpk> oh? I thought it showed you what it will write to the table...
[21:50] <wiggmpk> been a while
[21:51] <waltman> Maybe I missed it the first time.
[21:52] <wiggmpk> Is there anywhere else I should look for applications starting automatically other than ~/.config/autostart or /etc/xdg/autostart ...?
[21:53] <glowdemon1> Hi
[21:53] <glowdemon1> Whats the best way to search for packages to install with 'apt'? When I try 'apt list PDO' or 'apt search PDO' I can't find any packages
[21:53] <glowdemon1> Is there a better way or am I doing something wrong?
[21:54] <sruli> after a reboot, i get debian grub, cant find my install it seems fs is messed up, what could have caused it? (^)
[21:54] <waltman> Sigh
[21:54] <wiggmpk> glowdemon1: I believe it is apt-cache search yaddayadda
[21:54] <waltman> It's telling me I can't resize the 250 GB partition on sda because it's in use.
[21:55] <wiggmpk> waltman: are you using a LiveCD/USB?
[21:55] <waltman> yes
[21:56] <wiggmpk> interesting
[21:56] <wiggmpk> anything install on the drive?
[21:56] <wiggmpk> installed*
[21:56] <waltman> The data from my first attempt at an install.
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> glowdemon1  this is what the search finds here ... what's your ubuntu version? use   cat /etc/issue
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> glowdemon1  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23690477/
[21:57] <wiggmpk> waltman: nothing important?
[21:58] <waltman> no.
[21:58] <wiggmpk> waltman: should be an option to nuke the data
[21:59] <wiggmpk> i mean delete the partition, definitely shouldn't be in use
[21:59] <glowdemon1> Ah. Just noticed I'm in the wrong channel, my computer runs Ubuntu but my Docker container runs Debian, it also may be because I'm in a Docker container
[21:59] <waltman> I can't delete them because they're currently in use.
[21:59] <wiggmpk> not sure about that one waltman
[22:00] <waltman> WTF can't I just do another clean install?!
[22:00] <wiggmpk> waltman: you didnt explore the hard drive before you started the isntaller did you?
[22:00] <waltman> It shouldn't fucking try to mount anything!
[22:00] <wiggmpk> you don't see a hard drive mounted on the desktop or anything?
[22:00] <waltman> NO
[22:00] <waltman> NO
[22:00] <ikonia> waltman: stop swearing please
[22:01] <waltman> It gets frustrating trying to explain the same things over and over again
[22:01] <wiggmpk> sorry mate, just being thorough
[22:01] <waltman> Once again, I'm doing a server install from a flash drive. I couldn't even do a desktop install because I had video issues.
[22:02] <andorlistick> :)
[22:02] <waltman> Booting off the flash drive, it's mounting the drives that were already there.
[22:02] <waltman> WHY?
[22:02] <waltman> And it won't let me clear out these old partitions.
[22:03] <waltman> OK, I can boot off this flash drive, right?
[22:03] <waltman> I can't just run ubuntu off the flash drive?
[22:04] <waltman> I want to fdisk them manually.
[22:07] <waltman> I guess not.
[22:07] <waltman> rescue mode didn't work.
[22:08] <waltman> oh wait, there it is.
[22:14] <tomreyn> waltman: if you're looking for assistence by the volunteers around here, working in their spare time, then please consider a different attitude, and providing more information, output, screenshots.
[22:15] <Andy80> yes I was talking about this one http://pwnscriptum.com/ (sorry I was called and could not reply)
[22:20] <Bray90820> What's a good way to do automatic updates on ubuntu
[22:20] <Bray90820> Specifically 16.04
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Bray90820  in the system settings, you can set when you want to update
[22:21] <waltman> tomreyn: I'm sorry. Making screenshots is going to be very difficult, seeing as how this is currently a CLI-only system.
[22:23] <tomreyn> waltman: photos work, too. or just more verbose textual descriptions.
[22:25] <Bray90820> MonkeyDust: does that do update upgrade and dist-upgrade
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> Bray90820  not sure, but you could write a custom upgrade script and execute it automaticaaly with cron
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Check out /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades . See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343732 .
[22:27] <zomboy121> Hi
[22:29] <tomreyn> Andy80: the way i see it, it's only exploitable if the sender address can be modified. which, for most softwares, is hopefully not the case.
[22:30] <tomreyn> * modified by non-administrative users of systems the software is running on, that is.
[22:34] <ubuntu-mate> oi
[22:34] <ubuntu-mate> oi
[22:34] <ed_pls> oi
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> oi
[22:35] <first-time-user> hi im new to using ubuntu or even linux at all and im having a bit of network issue i need help figuring out
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> oi
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> oi
[22:35] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: stop it
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> oi
[22:36] <zomboy121> Cinnamon > mate
[22:44] <trelos> This video woke me up: https://youtu.be/m0vFHhKOcII
[22:47] <tomreyn> first-time-user: you will need to describe the issue
[22:48] <first-time-user> yes sorry i was reading the code of conduct since this is my first time here
[22:49] <trelos> https://youtu.be/m0vFHhKOcII This video woke me up. It's really enlightening.
[22:49] <first-time-user> didnt want to offend the chat
[22:49] <tomreyn> oh right i also need to read that sometime
[22:49] <OerHeks> trelos, please don't spam youtube links, thanks.
[22:50] <first-time-user> but my issue is related to mba
[22:50] <first-time-user> *samba
[22:51] <first-time-user> i can seem to see this htpc on my network im on 16.04
[22:53] <GALL0> can't get my mac to mount/see Ubuntu 16.04 samba share
[22:54] <first-time-user> so im unable to transfer files between pcs
[22:55] <GALL0> running 16.04 server, no GUI, edited `/etc/samba/smb.conf` and added
[22:55] <GALL0> [mnt]
[22:55] <GALL0> path = /mnt
[22:55] <GALL0> valid users = <username>
[22:55] <GALL0> read only = no
[22:55] <GALL0> browseable = yes
[22:55] <GALL0> guest ok = yes
[22:56] <GALL0> when i try to connect from macOS finder using my ubuntu credntials gives me an error, and cant mount/see my ubuntu folders
[22:56] <GALL0> restarted samba with `sudo service smbd restart`
[23:05] <trelos> https://youtu.be/m0vFHhKOcII This video woke me up. It's really enlightening. It's only 9 minutes.
[23:05] <OerHeks> !ops | trelos spam
[23:06] <trelos> the highest rated comment reads: You've always hit the nail on the head, all you require is a far larger platform for your knowledge to be heard.
[23:07] <trelos> Well, they are destroying the entire planet and have no connection to nature or anything/anyone, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Either way, they must be stopped.
[23:08] <tomreyn> GALL0: your ubuntu user may not ahve access to /mnt
[23:08] <GALL0> but I should have access to /home/user
[23:08] <GALL0> made a samba share for ~/ but i can access eaither
[23:08] <tomreyn> GALL0: not with this mount configuration you posted, no
[23:09] <tomreyn> you *can* access either? so no problem?
[23:09] <GALL0> i did [mnt] AND [home]  i can NOT access either
[23:09] <GALL0> from macOS
[23:10] <tomreyn> can you form ubuntu?
[23:10] <GALL0> i can `ls` from bash via ssh
[23:10] <tomreyn> *from
[23:10] <GALL0> yes
[23:10] <trelos> https://youtu.be/m0vFHhKOcII This video woke me up. It's really enlightening. It's only 9 minutes.
[23:10] <tomreyn> via smb / cifs
[23:10] <tomreyn> trelos: stop it, go away
[23:10] <trelos> The Chabad Lubavitchers, the most powerful and influential group of these world destroyers, believe that gentiles are non-living souls, literally a different and eternally inferior species of soul, literal excrement left over after the creation process, and that the Jews themselves are the only actual living souls, and that they alone are the same quality of substance of the Godhead himself.
[23:10] <trelos> In their belief system, in the Zohar for instance, it states clearly that when their messiah comes, all gentiles on the face of the Earth will be be enslaved, as most are already through fractional reserve usurious banking systems and so on, and ultimately all killed, every last one of us, and sent to dwell in hell under the Angel Duma, whoever that is.
[23:11] <tomreyn>  / ignore trelos
[23:11] <tomreyn> /ignore trelos
[23:11] <tomreyn> ^ use this command until the ops handle it
[23:12] <trelos> tomreyn, more and more humans are waking up and revolting.
[23:12] <tomreyn> GALL0: you should be able to access it from nautilus using smb://home
[23:13] <tomreyn> that's if it worked out.
[23:13] <GALL0> i dont hav nautilus
[23:13] <GALL0> server, no desktop/GUI
[23:17] <trelos> is this human? https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/michael-douglas-world-must-tackle-the-madness-of-anti-semitism/idf-18/
[23:18] <eelstrebor> anyone know why this batman arkham dvd won't mount? works fine in a windows machine. i'm trying to install the game into a virtualbox win 10 guest but it won't mount on the ubuntu host - all my other dvd's mount ok.
[23:18] <tomreyn> oh right sorry, then just: smbclient --user $USER //localhost/home
[23:18] <tomreyn> GALL0: ^
[23:18] <trelos> I guess supremacist globalist jews do not really control the banks and conjure money out of thin air and “loan” it at interest. I guess this fraudulent, illegal apparatus does not function as an all-jewish shadow government which creates all the wars and strife.
[23:19] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: copy protection maybe?
[23:19] <trelos> I guess that Judaism does not really designate gentiles as loathsome subhumans, that must be just another conspiracy theory cooked up by anti-semites, oy vey!
[23:20] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: maybe you can just pass it through to the VM
[23:20] <Guest96434> Hey guys, so I need some help with ftp
[23:20] <trelos> https://humanityawakened.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/the-jews-are-such-victims/
[23:20] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, maybe, the dvd mounts on a windows host though
[23:20] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, the guest doesn't see the dvd either
[23:21] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: how did oyu pass it through then?
[23:21] <eelstrebor> i didn't
[23:21] <tomreyn> Guest96434: please descirbe in more detail
[23:21] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: then how would the guest get to see it?
[23:21] <Guest96434> I'm connected remotely to my server and I can see the files but I can't write anything. I can nano them on the box and I have 666 access but over ftp it's read-only
[23:22] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, the guest won't see it unless the host mounts it first
[23:22] <tomreyn> Guest96434: 666, strange permissions. what's the idea behind that?
[23:23] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: not if you pass the cdrom through (but i have not checked whether virtualbox lets you)
[23:23] <Guest96434> I was going to do 777 but it isn't executable so I removed that flag because the remote computer was getting confused when I opened it
[23:24]  * eelstrebor asked in #vbox also but no one seems to be awake there
[23:25]  * eelstrebor is wondering if there is an linux app or lib that's missing preventing the dvd from mounting
[23:26] <Zeropedian> any machine learning freaks here?
[23:26] <Guest96434> I seem to have messed up the permissions on this box so much I can't even access my home directory anymore. Time for a reinstall :)
[23:27] <eelstrebor> Guest96434, it could be that you need to do a chown on your home directory
[23:27] <kk4ewt> or fix it
[23:27] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: cdrom/dvd-rom/-rw writer passthrough using virtualbox by example http://askubuntu.com/questions/288288/how-to-enable-the-dvd-writer-passthrough-checkbox-in-virtualbox  https://i.stack.imgur.com/W6bMR.png
[23:27] <PocketUser> I have a coke addiction!
[23:27] <kk4ewt> home is usually 644
[23:28] <PocketUser> Yea 644
[23:28] <Guest96434> eelstrebor, I did a chown and it didn't fix it. I'll try 644
[23:29] <PocketUser> Cool let us know how you get on with 664
[23:29] <PocketUser> 644*
[23:29] <PocketUser> Lol
[23:29] <eelstrebor> Guest96434, be sure to make it recursive - but some stuff in the home directory need certain permissions other than 644 - i.e. gnupg files
[23:30] <kk4ewt> chmod -cR 644
[23:30] <Guest96434> Still getting permission denied errors
[23:31] <Ben64> Guest96434: what error
[23:31] <kk4ewt> and what was the exact command that you used
[23:31] <Guest96434> Cannot access *: Permission denied
[23:31] <PocketUser> Are you sure you're typing it correct? Mine work ok with chmod -cR 644
[23:32] <Guest96434> sudo chmod -cR 644 /home/webadmin
[23:32] <Ben64> why would you recursively set everything to 644
[23:32] <Ben64> directories need executable bit set
[23:32] <Guest96434> great now sounds like a good time to reinstall since there's nothing on this vm
[23:33] <Guest96434> still not sure why i can't get ftp working but that'll be a project for another day
[23:33] <kk4ewt> Guest96434, is your user webadmin
[23:33] <Guest96434> kk4ewt yes
[23:33] <josefig_> hi all, what have you used in the case you need to read emails on raw and process depending on the contents of emails? I'm using fetchmail to retrieve the emails from an specific email account, but for example if I have any kind of command or notice I would like to create a bash script to do something else, how have you done this before? I know you're the gurus on this :)
[23:34] <PocketUser> Oh welcome to the chat josefig!!
[23:35] <josefig_> hi PocketUser, thanks :)
[23:38] <trelos> Well, they are destroying the entire planet and have no connection to nature or anything/anyone, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Either way, they must be stopped.
[23:38] <PocketUser> What's the point in keep changing your nick? Just makes you look at twat!
[23:39] <IamKrilcov> can someone help me with dling ubuntu?
[23:39] <trelos> The Chabad Lubavitchers, the most powerful and influential group of these world destroyers, believe that gentiles are non-living souls, literally a different and eternally inferior species of soul, literal excrement left over after the creation process, and that the Jews themselves are the only actual living souls, and that they alone are the same quality of substance of the Godhead himself.
[23:40] <bazhang> trelos, wrong channel
[23:40] <PocketUser> Wtf is trelos banging on about???
[23:40] <Bashing-om> IamKrilcov: What is the problem ?
[23:40] <EriC^^> IamKrilcov: what's up?
[23:40] <bazhang> no cursing here PocketUser
[23:40] <trelos> In their belief system, in the Zohar for instance, it states clearly that when their messiah comes, all gentiles on the face of the Earth will be be enslaved, as most are already through fractional reserve usurious banking systems and so on, and ultimately all killed, every last one of us, and sent to dwell in hell under the Angel Duma, whoever that is.
[23:41] <Zeropedian> anyone editing videos on ubuntu mate?
[23:41] <bazhang> Zeropedian, what have you used so far
[23:41] <IamKrilcov> How do i get to choose where my dl goes?
[23:41] <Skeet> Hey guys, am trying to use boot-repair to fix grub problems. Currently had windows 10 and ubuntu dualbooting. Can someone help out?
[23:42] <bazhang> IamKrilcov, thats a setting in firefox
[23:42] <Zeropedian> i tried everything
[23:42] <IamKrilcov> i am using the ubuntu browser.
[23:42] <bazhang> Zeropedian, please name some of those
[23:42] <Zeropedian> lightworks and kdenlive seems to be the best that linux does offer
[23:42] <EriC^^> IamKrilcov: that browser is comical sort of
[23:42] <Zeropedian> lightworks is pretty close to sony vegas pro 12..
[23:43] <IamKrilcov> yea, thank you
[23:43] <Zeropedian> but i never used it full time..so i am bit unconfident deleting my windows and switching to ubuntu
[23:43] <EriC^^> it's meant for the ubuntu touch stuff more than anything else i think
[23:44] <IamKrilcov> Victory!
[23:46] <PocketUser> Sorry! Trelos
[23:46] <bazhang> PocketUser, stay on topic here, chit chat elsewhere
[23:47] <Guest96434> Would anyone be willing to take me through a vsftpd setup that gives me write access to /var/www
[23:47] <IamKrilcov> can someone direct me to a command line channel?
[23:47] <IamKrilcov> I need help with dl'ing shasum generators and using them
[23:50] <sjaak> hola
[23:51] <tomreyn> IamKrilcov: this channel is, amongst other, about command lines
[23:51] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[23:52] <tomreyn> IamKrilcov: you can use the sha*sum or openssl commands to generate shasums
[23:52] <itsmemario> Hi guys I am having issue. I want to copy information from my log file from the programme "Log", the informtion about "hardware" and "important". I installed multitails but i cannot make it work. any help / app suggestion?
[23:53] <PocketUser> I got it to work using chmod 775 /root
[23:55] <PocketUser> 644 also works but isn't ideal for /www dir
[23:56] <itsmemario> any help please?
[23:56] <PocketUser> Obviously in sudo
[23:56] <PocketUser> What's up Mario?
[23:56] <bazhang> PocketUser, please stop the chit chat here
[23:57] <Skeet> Can someone help me repair my grub menu on win10/ubuntu dualboot? Encountering this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23691239/
[23:57] <PocketUser> Mario asked for help.... I asked him what help he needed!
[23:57] <bazhang> PocketUser, use tabcomplete for the actual nick
[23:58] <Guest96434> Anyone know why I can't write with vsftpd even though i have write enabled in the .conf?
[23:58] <itsmemario> PocketUser: I am trying to get a copy of my log report (the same you can find in the "log" application). This app does not let me copy the data. I need to copy the "hardware" log section and the "important" section. Any ideas?
[23:58] <IamKrilcov> this is hard


[03:26] <dmcglone> Hi everyone
[03:37] <canthus13> good morning.
[07:35]  * BiosElement waves
[07:35] <BiosElement> Anyone still awake?