[12:00] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: For a binary-oriented distribution, Kubuntu is pretty nice. It's not without it's serious flaws, however. MD5Sums on a CD is /bad/. And this has happened in 4.10 and 5.10 now.
[12:00] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: ok will do
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> Has anyone here ever played m4p's in ubuntu?
[12:00] <Ng> nowotny: fair enough :) also, it would be best to do it while the partition isn't mounted ;)
[12:00] <Robocision> For example, which driver do I want from nvidia to use with the newest ubuntu?
[12:00] <fangorious> oKtosiTe, in the single port forwarding, set up a rule to forward port 16022 to port 22 on <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:00] <gnomefreak> breezy: lilo can be installed and used as a bootloader but may i ask what is wrong with grub?
[12:00] <nowotny> Ng: I guess... ;)
[12:00] <hatake_kakashi> !m4p
[12:00] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[12:00] <Ng> Mordof: if you want to stop it completely, drop down to the console, log in and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[12:00] <Mordof> Ng, ctrl + alt + f1 doesn't exit X
[12:00] <Mordof> ok
[12:00] <avinoam> jon_k, i'm running it off of the desktop link, so i don't know, and it's in crossover, so i don't know how to command line it
[12:01] <breezy> to boring thats all
[12:01] <Ng> Moder: does it not take you to a text console?
[12:01] <fangorious> Psi-Jack, did you use the same mirror for each? I've never had bad checksums for Ubuntu images
[12:01] <Ng> err
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> Does K/ubuntu have a manual install method, so you can choose which kernel to install BEFORE it fails? ;}
[12:01] <gnomefreak> breezy: you want color you want picture grub can do most of what lilo can do
[12:01] <Ng> damn I hate it when that happens
[12:01] <bliss> who are you talking to fangorious please
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: Yes. The MD5 of the disc checked out.
[12:01] <hatake_kakashi> Psi-Jack: not really
[12:01] <Artan1s> _jason: Yeah, that hard drive is garbage
[12:01] <fangorious> bliss:  in the single port forwarding, set up a rule to forward port 16022 to port 22 on <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:01] <hatake_kakashi> Ng: lol been there done that
[12:01] <breezy> ok tell moi how please
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: i think breezy has an expert install mode
[12:01] <bimberi> Psi-Jack: 'expert' (at the boot prompt) perhaps
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> hatake_kakashi: Why, after I told it to install, again, it offered me a kernel image to install, then? There /is/ a menu.
[12:02] <Ng> hatake_kakashi: I don't display joins/parts in here to cut out the noise, so it happens quite easily to me ;)
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> bimberi: Aha! Poifect.
[12:02] <breezy> how do i change it then
[12:02] <fangorious> breezy, google grub splash
[12:02] <gnomefreak> breezy: tell you how to do what? i sugest you read about grub
[12:02] <breezy> kk
[12:02] <breezy> cheers
[12:03] <E> hatake_kakashi: thnx,
[12:03] <E> I just want to recover some boss' files, and then I can install ubuntu again from zero because the rest of the files I have them in backup, what do you think about it?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell breezy about grub
[12:03] <fangorious> E: i think i hope you can get those files back
[12:03] <gnomefreak> that might help also breezy
[12:03] <tatters> is it normal for packages to dissapear?
[12:04] <fangorious> tatters, define disappear?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> tatters: not really
[12:04] <tatters> not there, no longer exists
[12:04] <fangorious> tatters, no longer installed on your machine? no longer in the repositories? ...
[12:04] <E> thanks gangorious, but I need some orientation
[12:04] <E> some body speaks spanish?
[12:04] <bimberi> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:05] <ompaul> !es
[12:05] <gnomefreak> tatters: that doesnt happen unless you delete it or it was never installed or something needed to uninstall it to be installed
[12:05] <E> Gracias
[12:05] <navarone> ompaul you have to be faster than that...<s>
[12:05] <bliss> fangorious---how do I set up a rule---I have heasdings appplication ---external port ---internal port-----protocol----ip adddrss--enable
[12:05] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: ok this look good? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8670
[12:05] <tatters> well its not in repos nor is there a download for it , but lots of web pages mention it
[12:05] <tatters> its a element in webmin security sentrys
[12:06] <tatters> portsentry and hostsentry but hostsentry is nowhere to be found in any repos
[12:06] <klippo> ive followed guide on ubuntuforums how to create .deb out of the ati installer
[12:06] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: ok save that than sudo apt-get update
[12:06] <klippo> Hi. i need help: http://pastebin.com/554750
[12:06] <larsemil> where to start to get sound working?
[12:06] <klippo> I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[12:06] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: done
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 :)
[12:07] <fangorious> bliss: i don't know how to use your routers interface. you already set up forwarding for port 22, can't you just repeat the process and use 16022 instead?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ribaldjester: if you were needing that
[12:08] <ribaldjester> gnomefreak: that did it - the kernel module compiled. Thank you!
[12:08] <gnomefreak> tatters: http://www.google.com/search?q=hostsentry&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[12:09] <ghoulee> hello! I have a UK keyboard on my IBM T43p thinkpad and I don't see a layout for it
[12:09] <rewt_> question
[12:09] <fangorious> klippo, i don't recall that howto saying to do a modprobe
[12:09] <judgen> hi
[12:09] <tatters> ive read every link
[12:09] <ghoulee> it's the one with the # key just next to the return key on the right
[12:09] <judgen> What is the default root passwd in ubuntu?
[12:09] <ghoulee> judgen: there isn't one.  use sudo
[12:09] <gnomefreak> the first link in the search that i gave you is to download it
[12:10] <judgen> ghoulee, ok..
[12:10] <gnomefreak> tatters: you would have it if you read it :(
[12:10] <rewt_> Any one use gDesklets with AideCandy Boxmail 0.50.0.......it says what is path to inbox....how the hell do i get a path to gmail?
[12:10] <tatters> but thats 1999?
[12:10] <fangorious> klippo, have you posted on the discussion thread for that howto?
[12:11] <tatters> where the support site wikki or anything
[12:11] <rewt_> anyone have a mailbox path setup for gmail?
[12:12] <rewt_> im so confused >.<
[12:12] <bliss> fangorous ---so in port range forwarding application ssh---start 16022 end 16022 --protocol tcp---ip adress <IP_ADDRESS>---
[12:12] <fangorious> bliss, sure
[12:12] <mark__> anyone have any idea how I could get Wolfenstein Enemy Territory to produce sound :\
[12:12] <bliss> and hope for the bestt
[12:12] <mark__> something to do with my sound card being stubborn or something?
[12:12] <fangorious> mark__, have you poked it with a spoon?
[12:12] <amphi> ghoulee: I have mine mapped to us layout, much more sane IMHO
[12:12] <mark__> fangorious, yes
[12:13] <mark__> it still didn't make ANY sound :(
[12:13] <fangorious> mark__: hm, stubborn bastard
[12:13] <klippo> fangorious: since it doesnt load the module i had to check
[12:13] <mark__> when I buy my new system, I'll make sure EACH component is compatible driver wise with linux
[12:14] <fangorious> klippo: so i take it X wouldn't launch after running through the HOWTO, and something in the xorg log indicated the module had not loaded?
[12:14] <judgen> It the palm pilot syncer included in ubuntu only supporting old palm devices?
[12:14] <jon_k> mark__, just buy a soundblaster and be done with it
[12:14] <jon_k> heh
[12:14] <mark__> not a bad idea jon
[12:14] <mark__> how much do you reckon I could get one for without blowing my pockets open
[12:14] <bliss> fangrious---use -p 16022 on which computer I will acess from a windows computer at work
[12:14] <Robocision> hi.  I'm using the newest version of ubuntu.  The wiki tells me to go to Applications, system tools, then terminal.  but there is no terminal option.  What should I do?
[12:15] <Seveas> Robocision, applications -> accessories
[12:15] <klippo> fangorious: yep
[12:15] <Seveas> Robocision, which wikipage?
[12:15] <klippo> tried xorg-driver-fglrx to
[12:15] <Robocision> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28driver%29
[12:15] <ghoulee> amphi: I'd prefer to have the keys print as labled, is this possible?
[12:15] <fangorious> bliss: on the computer you are trying to connect from (Assuming you are using openssh at the command line, I'm not sure how to specify port with other clients)
[12:15] <ompaul> Seveas, I'll do it
[12:16] <Seveas> ompaul, too late, I have the lock :)
[12:16] <ompaul> I see that
[12:16] <ompaul> hehe
[12:16] <bliss> fangorious--I will connect to my home  linux box from a windows box at work
[12:17] <klippo> fangorious: im thinking it have something to do with the latest kernel
[12:17] <bliss> fangrious i will use putty
[12:17] <tatters> is it ok to use a package that 7 yrs old?
[12:17] <tatters> does it matter ?
[12:17] <fangorious> bliss: ok, there's a field to specify port right in the main window of putty
[12:18] <amphi> ghoulee: sure - if you can't find an exact keymap for console, you can edit your keymap to taste
[12:18] <amphi> ghoulee: eg. I have the thinkpad 'pg left' and 'pg right' keys switch VTs
[12:19] <Seveas> tatters, which package?
[12:19] <tatters> hostsentry
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> amphi: How do you do that?  I have mine set up to switch desktop, how VT?
[12:19] <Seveas> W: Unable to locate package hostsentry
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Seveas: its not in any of the official or unofficial repos
[12:20] <bliss> fangrious so I specify -p 16022 in port right box
[12:20] <fangorious> bliss: no, just 16022
[12:20] <Seveas> gnomefreak, which is exactly what that line of mine is saying :)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: echo 'keycode 158 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys && echo 'keycode 159 = Incr_Console' | loadkeys
[12:20] <gnomefreak> i meant to get it out before that
[12:20] <fangorious> bliss: the -p was for using the openssh client in a command shell
[12:21] <tatters> I use webmin and it is  the security sentry  section, it uses portsentry lockchecg and hostsentry
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Thanks.  (Got a good howto link for this sort of thing in general?)
[12:21] <Seveas> yegh, webmin....
[12:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: makes them act as alt <- and alt ->
[12:21] <Seveas> (sorry)
[12:21] <tatters> but hostsentry seems to have dissapeard after 1999
[12:23] <subdiv> trying to install Kubuntu on an iMac and getting strange errors.
[12:23] <navarone> tatters have you looked at this site http://sourceforge.net/projects/sentrytools/
[12:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I don't recall; there are bits and pieces on linux-laptop.net; some useful bits at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[12:23] <bliss> fangorious ---now just another point to finish I have the same problem  with webmin  can connect on my home computer at https://mydomain.com:10000/ but not from outside but port 10000 is enabled for webmin in port range forwarding
[12:23] <IdleOne> subdiv:  #kubuntu
[12:23] <subdiv> sorry
[12:24] <IdleOne> np :)
[12:24] <IdleOne> well
[12:24] <IdleOne> didnt need to quit
[12:24] <IdleOne> lol
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> amphi: 'k.
[12:24] <tatters> bliss do u use the security sentry of webmin?
[12:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: the latter is where I found the 'undervolt' patch
[12:24] <bliss> tatters no
[12:24] <tatters> sry nav just saw your post chking now
[12:24] <amphi> cpu runs a lot cooler now
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Slower or just cooler?
[12:25] <amphi> just cooler
[12:25] <amphi> tonyyarusso: lower voltages for each freq
[12:25] <fangorious> bliss: you may want to try disabling the 'block WAN request' option on the router.
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Does that help battery life?
[12:26] <fangorious> bliss: i have to go now, good luck. i'm on here pretty regularly though
[12:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: yeah, somewhat
[12:26] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:26] <bliss> fangorious --you mean what I mentioned before as being checked
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> amphi: That would be nice.
[12:26] <sobersabre> any aussies  ?
[12:27] <Loevborg> w00t is news.gmane.org down?
[12:27] <navarone> tatters in the forum on sourceforge someone has posted a link to a download on tucows. It is Hostsentry 0.02  ...looks like it is source in tar.gz so you may have to compile
[12:27] <omerix> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:27] <omerix> how can i solve this problem: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:27] <bimberi> omerix: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:27] <filted> who Xappe
[12:27] <sobersabre> omerix , I have an idea what's the problem!
[12:28] <omerix> sobersabre: what
[12:28] <guerby> hi again, I have an edubuntu spash screen at boot, how do I go back to a regular ubuntu one?
[12:28] <sobersabre> you don't have a compiler! :) :) :)
[12:28] <IdleOne> where can I check hardware compatibilty in ubuntu?
[12:28] <bliss> how do I save this chat session please
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to check for nicks of a location by somehow getting /names | /whois - | grep .uk (obviously not actually that sytanx probably, but now you know what I'm getting at.)
[12:29] <sobersabre> IdleOne: goto System->Settings->Hardware Compatibility
[12:29] <sobersabre> :)
[12:29] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, offtopic
[12:29] <IdleOne> ty sobersabre
[12:29] <monteiro> i've a webcam logitech express, and when i trie to acess the device with xawtv , computer freezes and i've' to reboot the pc, any ideas ?
[12:29] <amphi> tonyyarusso: my T42 used to go to over 70C under load; undervolted it barely reaches 50C
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Point.  Sorry.
[12:29] <sobersabre> IdleOne I am kidding.
[12:29] <sobersabre> this is a joke.
[12:29] <IdleOne> lol
[12:29] <IdleOne> freak
[12:29] <IdleOne> !
[12:29] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[12:29] <sobersabre> IdleOne  Ubuntu supports all the hardware linux supports.
[12:29] <Robocision> Hi.  Last question.  What's the best way to get my SoundBlaster Audigy gamer working?
[12:29] <IdleOne> sorry about the enter punctuation
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Eigh.  Mine's more like 45.
[12:29] <bimberi> uboto tell IdleOne about hardware
[12:30] <sobersabre> IdleOne for specific release you need to check "release notes" or install notes.
[12:30] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, I was answering you in offtopic I meant :-)
[12:30] <IdleOne> !hardware
[12:30] <ubotu> I guess hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Ah, understood now.  Although I should have been asking it there anyway.
[12:31] <ompaul> heheh
[12:31] <Robocision> anyone?  SoundBlaster audigy help.  What's the best way to get it functioning?  (I'm a linux newbie.)
[12:31] <tatters> Naverone I did chk that link before but there is no download for hostsentry on there
[12:31] <bimberi> IdleOne: sorry, i didn't notice my typo (uboto)
[12:31] <breezy> whats happenin with soundblaster no sound out of it??
[12:32] <nowotny> Ng: hey... thanks... :) it worked...
[12:32] <breezy> what version of linux u using
[12:32] <IdleOne> bimberi:  np
[12:32] <Robocision> I'm using Ubuntu.
[12:32] <sobersabre> IdleOne do you worry about any special piece of hardware ?
[12:32] <breezy> kk
[12:32] <nick01> is there a firewalla enabled by default ? cause azureus is not working ?
[12:32] <breezy> should be already drivers installed with ubuntu
[12:32] <sobersabre> nick01 are you directly connected to the internet ?
[12:32] <nick01> yes
[12:33] <breezy> coz i got drivers with mine
[12:33] <Robocision> I just freshly installed Ubuntu and I got my Nvidia card drivers installed.  Just wondering the best way to get new drivers.
[12:33] <sobersabre> no routers in the middle ?
[12:33] <nick01> no
[12:33] <bimberi> nick01: no firewalling by default, you might get some tips here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:33] <navarone> Robocision are you able to get sound at all?
[12:33] <rewt_> anyone have a mailbox path setup for gmail?
[12:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell Robocision about nvidia
[12:33] <nick01> tks bimberi
[12:33] <breezy> i got soundblaster audigy 2 zs
[12:33] <sobersabre> rewt_ which mua ?
[12:33] <rewt_> BoxMAil
[12:33] <bimberi> nick01: np :)
[12:33] <rewt_> I dunno its through gDesklets
[12:34] <nyc-h0st> hey guys i want to switch off dhcp and go static, instructions?
[12:34] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  my burner isnt working and cant figure out why
[12:34] <nick01> bimberi, that only tells me how to install it  :(
[12:34] <sobersabre> rewt_ WTF is this mailer ?!?!
[12:34] <sobersabre>  :)
[12:34] <sobersabre> IdleOne what do you mean it doesn't work ?
[12:34] <IdleOne> I mean it isnt being recognised
[12:34] <nyc-h0st> hey guys i want to switch off dhcp and go static, instructions?
[12:34] <sobersabre> is it external/internal ? DVD ? which model ? what age ?
[12:34] <bimberi> nick01: darn :/ - hoped it might mention any networking issues - sorry
[12:35] <sobersabre> IdleOne which ubuntu release do you use ?
[12:35] <tatters> hmm what should I do with regards to this old package should i use it will i get problems
[12:35] <IdleOne> breezy
[12:35] <nick01> bimberi, azureus now sais I'm firewalled
[12:35] <tatters> 1999 seems a bit old to me
[12:35] <sobersabre> IdleOne when have bought it ? have you already burned any CDs with it ?
[12:35] <bimberi> nyc-h0st: System -> Administration -> Networking
[12:35] <sobersabre> IdleOne what's the model ?
[12:35] <nyc-h0st> bimberi sorry no graphical interface
[12:36] <breezy> wot u want idle one
[12:36] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  its a couple years old and burned cd's on a windows machine model : lite-ON ltn486 48x max
[12:36] <bimberi> nyc-h0st: ok, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:36] <breezy> ok
[12:36] <sobersabre> IdleOne when was the last time it burned CDs ?
[12:36] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  about six months ago
[12:36] <sobersabre> ( couple of years old is O L D )
[12:36] <tatters> is webmin an outdated package,,,, is there a ubuntu supported one that similer?
[12:36] <sobersabre> IdleOne do you know to which block device is it attached ?
[12:37] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  no
[12:37] <amphi> !webmin
[12:37] <ubotu> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount for webmin instructions for Ubuntu. Webmin runs on https://localhost:10000
[12:37] <breezy> have you tried device manager
[12:37] <navarone> IdleOne, have you doen any rummaging inside...poking at cables that may have loosened connections...?
[12:37] <sobersabre> can you open a terminal and type "ls -l /dev/cdrom" ?
[12:37] <amphi> oh, not like the dpkg factoid ;)
[12:37] <IdleOne> navarone:  yup
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Think the ThinkWiki keeps up to date pretty well?  (As in, will it have things relevant to the new kernel and stuff so it's still a reliable resource when Dapper releases?)
[12:37] <IdleOne> navarone:  all is nice and tight
[12:37] <sobersabre> navarone the drive is 2 years old.
[12:37] <navarone> IdleOne, I would check connections and see if they are solid
[12:37] <navarone> Ok
[12:37] <sobersabre> 2 YEARS OLD!!!!
[12:38] <navarone> sobersabre, ? so?
[12:38] <amphi> tonyyarusso: dunno, to be honest
[12:38] <amphi> tonyyarusso: what stinkpad do you have?
[12:38] <sobersabre> navarone if you do regular backup, the drive's laser gets dirty in 1.x years only from opening and closing the tray.
[12:38] <breezy> idle one try system/synaptic package manager
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> amphi: All right.  Worth a shot.
[12:38] <nick01> bimberi, but the included bittorrent client has no problems at all :/
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> amphi: T43 2668-49U
[12:38] <sobersabre> IdleOne so ... have you ran the ls -l commadn ?
[12:39] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2006-02-14 17:58 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[12:39] <sobersabre> OK.
[12:39] <sobersabre> now run this command:
[12:39] <breezy> and search to see if there is an alsa-base package installed
[12:39] <navarone> sobersabre,  be that as it may...who knows how often it has been used...although IdleOne  said it was last used 6 months ago...so...I doubt thta is relevant
[12:39] <breezy> and install it if it isnt
[12:39] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I doubt the centrino cpufreq code is going to change much, if you're talking about the 'undervolt' patch applying cleanly to later kernels
[12:39] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep hdc | less
[12:40] <sobersabre> IdleOne got the command ?
[12:40] <sobersabre> just copy paste it, but don't paste the output here.
[12:40] <JloR> what ubuntu could really need, that most other distros have, is a progress bar on the apt-get process..
[12:40] <JloR> I've missed that feature a few times while doing apt-get distupdate or whatever the command was.
[12:40] <sobersabre> IdleOne have you found any output of that command on the screen ?
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Eh, nothing specifically in mind at the moment, but that's good to know at least.
[12:40] <Kindred> it has percentage doesnt it
[12:40] <sobersabre> JloR apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:40] <JloR> Kindred: not that I can see.
[12:41] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  cant scroll up to paste all the output
[12:41] <JloR> sobersabre: that's the one :)
[12:41] <amphi> JloR: what for? you've got the package and total percentage displayed
[12:41] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep hdc | less
[12:41] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep hdc | less
[12:41] <sobersabre> got it ?
[12:41] <IdleOne> yup
[12:41] <JloR> amphi: no.. I dont.. I have "setting up <package name>..." and.. so on..
[12:41] <sobersabre> if that is nothing, try
[12:41] <JloR> I'd like to know which package out of how many that actually is. And also, when downloading those, I'd like to know how many it actually wants to download..
[12:41] <amphi> JloR: oh, you mean that stage
[12:42] <JloR> that's not information that is displayed.
[12:42] <sobersabre> sudo cat /var/log/* | grep -i "seek" | less
[12:42] <amphi> JloR: how many bytes in how many packages are to be downloaded is displayed
[12:42] <avinoam> Hey where is XF86Config-4 at in ubuntu?
[12:42] <JloR> the dist-upgrade takes ages and ages again - so I'd like to just have a rought estimate.. So I could see if I should take a nap, or a cup of coffee :)
[12:42] <bimberi> !xorg
[12:42] <ubotu> I heard xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:42] <sobersabre> avinoam wake up, it's corg time!
[12:42] <Kindred> JloR,  that should all be displayed..
[12:42] <amphi> avinoam: nowhere; xorg.conf
[12:42] <sobersabre> s/corg/xorg
[12:42] <JloR> amphi: are to be downloaded yes... but.. what happens when the first 3000 lines have been shown then? Then that info is lost.
[12:43] <sobersabre> seek thee for /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <avinoam> ok, where is that at?
[12:43] <JloR> and.. it doesn't really show which package it's at.
[12:43] <naetrick> Where is the modprobe configuration file, to load modules at boot?
[12:43] <JloR> Kindred: how - where - how?
[12:43] <sobersabre> IdleOne what's up.... ?
[12:43] <avinoam> sobersabre, i have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <sobersabre> avinoam ... do you have ubuntu ?
[12:43] <amphi> JloR: but you only need it at the 'continue y/n?' stage, right?
[12:43] <avinoam> sobersabre, yup
[12:43] <rewt_> sigh ill never figure out this crap
[12:43] <JloR> But anyway, this is turning into a flame - that was really not the intention.
[12:43] <avinoam> wait one sec
[12:44] <amphi> rewt_: heh
[12:44] <sobersabre> avinoam ...then you need to install x-windows packages.
[12:44] <JloR> amphi: I didn't even see that I think.. But no, I'd really like it after that stage.
[12:44] <riddlebox> does anyone else have problems connecting to vnc servers?
[12:44] <avinoam> sobersabre, that is odd, isn't it?
[12:44] <avinoam> sobersabre, i'm using gnome and it's just not there
[12:44] <JloR> to see the progress - not to see what needs to be done.
[12:44] <amphi> JloR: I'm not flaming, I just don't see any necessity for it
[12:44] <avinoam> sobersabre, so what configurations is it using?
[12:44] <IdleOne> sobersabre: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8671
[12:44] <JloR> amphi: imagine sitting at a slow internet connection, at a 700mhz machine with 128mb ram..
[12:44] <amphi> JloR: more than the updated percentage complete?
[12:45] <JloR> imagine upgrading from 5.10 to dapper..
[12:45] <sobersabre> IdleOne did you find messages like "{DriveSeek REady " or not ?
[12:45] <JloR> Then you would love to see which package it was downloading out of how many.. continously.
[12:45] <IdleOne> lemme look
[12:45] <JloR> And you'd love even more to see which package it was setting up - out of how many.
[12:45] <JloR> also.. continously.
[12:45] <amphi> JloR: I don't have to imagine, I ran debian on a 266MHz with 64MB ram on dialup for a long time ;)
[12:45] <JloR> :)
[12:45] <sobersabre> avinoam, have you installed the system or upgraded from sarge ?
[12:46] <JloR> Sure it's nice to  see ahead of download how much it expects to download and install - but it's also nice to see how far it has progressed.
[12:46] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  nope nothing like that
[12:46] <avinoam> sobersabre, installed
[12:46] <amphi> JloR: but it shows that, as a percentage, for the total & for each package
[12:46] <JloR> amphi: I don't see that.
[12:46] <avinoam> sobersabre, hmm i see it now in nautilus
[12:46] <navarone> avinoam did you do a server installation?
[12:47] <navarone> ok nvm
[12:47] <JloR> it shows the wget info .. but that's not really enough. That just shows for that package..
[12:47] <Delvien> sweet did they break X on dapper yet?
[12:47] <christopher> hey anyone use Enlightenment for linux?
[12:47] <JloR> I can't see any info about how many more packages are to gol.
[12:47] <sobersabre> IdleOne I can see your drive is recognized.
[12:47] <JloR> go*
[12:47] <Delvien> reading some disturbing things with the new Dapper update
[12:47] <IdleOne> sobersabre:  but it wont burn cd's
[12:48] <amphi> JloR: true; it numbers the packages, but doesn't show foo/bar
[12:48] <christopher> anyone use Enlightenment Desktop?
[12:48] <amphi> JloR: but the number is not that meaningful given the varying package sizes
[12:48] <Nameeater> why would I be getting almost like ping traffic across the network? does samba ping stuff? :/
[12:48] <JloR> exactly.. that's not really useful (unless you have a normal - subnormal memory and can remember that huge number it displayed in the beginning of the apt-get -- I dont).
[12:48] <JloR> amphi: it's still somewhat nice to know.
[12:48] <larsemil> i get no sound. 1. ubuntu does not find my soundcard. 2. the module for my soundcard is loaded. 3 esd was not loaded - loading it made a sound in my speakers.. but i still dont get ubuntu to find my soundcard...
[12:49] <amphi> JloR: sure, it would do no harm
[12:49] <JloR> and I'd really love it during the "setting up" phase :)
[12:49] <judgen> How do i change from gnome to kde?
[12:49] <christopher> excuse
[12:49] <JloR> anyway, I have no business complaining really.. a) I wont have a say in things as a single person b) I never use ubuntu.
[12:49] <sobersabre> judgen do you have both installed or not ?
[12:49] <christopher> do any of you ppl talking use Enlightenment?
[12:49] <navarone> IdleOne, how many cd-drives are in your machine?
[12:50] <Chris_Tucker> judgen, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then choose it at login
[12:50] <judgen> sobersabre, i have both
[12:50] <amphi> JloR: of course you have a say as an individual
[12:50] <IdleOne> navarone:  1
[12:50] <JloR> christopher: I have tried it - but I didn't like it (I tried it at my laptop, so several features didn't work.. Mostly mouse related)
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> A progress bar during install would be good.  Don't much care about apt-get having it myself.
[12:50] <sobersabre> then logout the session, and upon new logon choose KDE.
[12:50] <judgen> ill try that then
[12:50] <christopher> hmm thats probably my problem then
[12:50] <JloR> a lot of weird mouse click combos for menus and so on :)
[12:50] <JloR> but looks pretty
[12:50] <christopher> im using it on a laptop and i get get the Applications menu to stop from scrolling off the screen
[12:51] <christopher> cant*
[12:51] <JloR> hmm, okay..
[12:51] <JloR> well, I'm a fluxbox person.
[12:51] <amphi> JloR: what do you run on your laptop?
[12:51] <christopher> so i take it i should stick with GNOME?
[12:51] <JloR> amphi: gentoo linux
[12:51] <christopher> I tried installing fluxbox of its site
[12:51] <amphi> JloR: uhuh - debian here, and openbox
[12:51] <JloR> hehe :)
[12:51] <christopher> and i couldnt get it to install but then again im a newbie
[12:51] <Delvien> Well rebooting, see if everything dies on me
[12:51] <christopher> i use Ubuntu 5.10
[12:52] <JloR> christopher: did you use the .deb (from the package manager in ubuntu) ?
[12:52] <navarone> Idleone how come it lists two...maybe three as hdc? Lite-on , Atapi (which maybe generic name for Lite-on) and a Matshita CR-583...<shrug> ?
[12:52] <amphi> christopher: fluxbox should be packaged
[12:52] <Robocision> How do I install a downloaded application for Ubuntu from a website?
[12:52] <Robocision> I downloaded the Second Life linux client.
[12:52] <christopher> it doesnt appear
[12:52] <JloR> oh my god!.. OH MY GOD.... it froze.. it froze up on me.. "Starting PCMCIA Services..." .. my dist-upgrade froze.
[12:52] <JloR> I sure as **** hope this saved some info!
[12:52] <amphi> JloR: ctrl-c ;)
[12:52] <ompaul> JloR, were you moving from breezy to daooer
[12:52] <christopher> nope not on mine
[12:53] <christopher> just black box
[12:53] <JloR> no.. seriously.. entire box froze up
[12:53] <ompaul> JloR, were you moving from breezy to dapper
[12:53] <JloR> ompaul: yea
[12:53] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[12:53] <JloR> yea?
[12:53] <nick01> bimberi, any idea what's wrong |?
[12:53] <vadersolo> Hi there
[12:53] <JloR> ompaul: and?
[12:53] <bimberi> nick01: no idea sorry :/
[12:54] <Robocision> So yeah, I downloaded the Second Life linux client.  Now I need to install it.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
[12:54] <vadersolo> I installed ubuntu in english, and I now i want to switch the language to spanish, how can I do that??
[12:54] <amphi> christopher: you have the universe and multiverse repos in your sources.list ?
[12:54] <christopher> yep
[12:54] <nick01> can anybody help me with a firewall error in azureus ?
[12:54] <JloR> Gah.. when you have to hard reboot a linux machine, then you know something bad happened to it :\
[12:54] <christopher> even added more custom ones from the forums that i learned about
[12:54] <navarone> JloR, I think ompaul was trying to let you know that upgrading to dapper had inherent risks
[12:54] <JloR> at least numlock still works
[12:54] <amphi> christopher: well, fluxbox is easy enough to build from source ASIR
[12:54] <JloR> navarone: yea.. and that I know.. Mainly because dapper is still not final :p
[12:55] <Robocision> Anyone?  How do you install a downloaded application from a website?
[12:55] <amphi> christopher: what gave you a problem?
[12:55] <JloR> not a very nice way to tell me though :\
[12:55] <christopher> yeah i read about that building stuff haha i heard it can be a pain in the butt
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> Robocision: What type of file did you get?
[12:55] <christopher> well in ubuntu's gnome....
[12:55] <Loevborg> Robocision, follow their instructions
[12:55] <amphi> christopher: usually not
[12:55] <christopher> the desktop shortcut didnt work
[12:55] <Robocision> A bz2
[12:55] <christopher> it had the exclamation point icon
[12:55] <christopher> and it said desktop not found
[12:55] <ompaul> JloR, well if you knew why the gasp ? ;-)
[12:55] <amphi> christopher: it's rarely you have to mess with the code to get stuff to build on linux
[12:56] <JloR> I never expect something to freeze up on me - especially not freeze up on me so much I have to hard reboot in linux...
[12:56] <JloR> And if I did - I wouldn't do it in the first place.
[12:56] <amphi> christopher: old things written on solaris or something can need a bit of tweaking here and there sometimes
[12:56] <christopher> amphi thanks for helping me.. you have no idea how long i been trying to find someone who knows about this stuff
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> Robocision: Check for instructions on the site, a README or INSTALL file in what you downloaded, or see !compile and !checkinstall.
[12:56] <amphi> christopher: how far did you get?
[12:56] <JloR> BUT - since someone made it work, I figured it might be possible.. so I gave it a shot.
[12:56] <christopher> like i just installed my first linux distro last week
[12:56] <Robocision> thanks
[12:56] <christopher> so i dont really know what im doing
[12:57] <avinoam> stupid WINE won't let me input in hebrew
[12:57] <amphi> christopher: some bewilderment is to be expected ;)
[12:57] <christopher> im copying and pasting forum threads
[12:57] <navarone> JloR, at least you backed up your data first right?
[12:57] <JloR> Okay. .that was a short lifespan for my ubuntu :p
[12:57] <bimberi> nick01: http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/lugischia/2006-January/000501.html
[12:57] <amphi> christopher: you downloaded a fluxbox source tarball?
[12:57] <christopher> i had to reinstall ubuntu because i copied and pasted a source.list file in order to add repositories
[12:57] <christopher> turns out it was for the wrong version of ubuntu haha screwed me up
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Nice.
[12:58] <JloR> navarone: I installed 6 hours ago - I started upgrading 5 hours ago.. it finished 10 minutes ago - no, I did not backup. Don't see the point when it's not a machine I've been using for long time.
[12:58] <amphi> christopher: heh, 'measure twice, cut once'
[12:58] <christopher> yeah but its on my gnome environment not this one (enlightenment)
[12:58] <christopher> lol
[12:58] <christopher> wise words
[12:58] <JloR> Aaand.. Now it can't start up - it did manage to mess with my LVM groups :)
[12:58] <navarone> JloR, you installed breezy then upgraded to dapper immediately?
[12:58] <christopher> well the reason why i am here is... i just installed enlightenment 16
[12:58] <amphi> christopher: anyway, do you have the source tarball for fluxbox?
[12:58] <JloR> navarone: pretty much, yea.
[12:58] <christopher> and this is the only thing i could view and use
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> 'measure twice, cut somebody else's board first and see how it goes'
[12:58] <christopher> yes i dled the latest one
[12:58] <JloR> installed some drivers for my matrox card - and an SMP kernel.. then did the upgrade.
[12:59] <navarone> JloR, first time linux user?
[12:59] <JloR> navarone: far from
[12:59] <cortana> what is the deal with /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile -- why do the modules in linux-restricted-modules get regenerated at every boot?
[12:59] <navarone> ok
[12:59] <amphi> christopher: did you untar it?
[12:59] <christopher> i think it was a .deb file
[12:59] <christopher> so then i tried chmod
[12:59] <navarone> JloR, why not just download the dapper iso and install that fresh?
[12:59] <christopher> to convert it to bin
[12:59] <recon00> Does anybody know what LaTeX is? i have a book in that format.
[12:59] <amphi> christopher: oh, you have a deb? for what?
[12:59] <christopher> well no
[12:59] <JloR> because I had the breezy, and had no idea that I couldn't use xorg 7.0 on that.
[12:59] <amphi> christopher: no, no, that way madness lies ;)
[12:59] <JloR> and I'm just playing around on this machine :)
[12:59] <christopher> i went to fluxbox' site  and i didnt know which one to dl
[01:00] <amphi> christopher: hang on
[01:00] <navarone> JloR, nothing ventured nothing gained...<s>
[01:00] <JloR> hehe
[01:00] <christopher> def will do
[01:00] <JloR> navarone: I had fun seeing the speed enhancement when changing from standard ubuntu kernel to SMP ubuntu kernel.
[01:00] <ompaul> JloR, it is unstable - that means it is not ready, it scares me when I see people typing dapper in the channel, so I hit that thing, I do a lot of hours on irc and I wish dist upgrade came with a big warning for unstable, that is one of two good ideas I have had today, must register them on the wiki or launchpad or somewhere
[01:00] <Delvien> is XGL worth it?
[01:00] <amphi> christopher: ok, you got the 'debian package'?
[01:00] <recon00> How do I view a book in .tex format?
[01:00] <christopher> umm
[01:01] <christopher> i dont remember now
[01:01] <christopher> i might have deleted it in frustration
[01:01] <christopher> amphi:  quick question
[01:01] <JloR> ompaul: still not a very polite way of letting someone know something they might know already. Just because you hear a gasp or a sigh or something , doesn't mean that people start whining and blaming everyone but themselves.
[01:01] <amphi> christopher: ok, there is a breezy package
[01:01] <christopher> amphi: is xchat avail on GNOME ?
[01:01] <Hysty> recon00: have a look in the repositories for a tex viewer
[01:01] <amphi> christopher: do this is a terminal: wget http://people.debian.org/~dopey/fluxbox/ubuntu-breezy/fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[01:01] <Mordof> ok! problem with installing nvidia drivers, apparently the package was compiled on an earlier kernal, with an older version of the gcc compiler.. what do i do!!?!?!
[01:01] <christopher> should i switch on to GNOME because i cant do anything in enlightenment.. frankly i dont know how to
[01:01] <amphi> christopher: yes
[01:02] <navarone> recon00, doa s earch in synaptic for latex and install package. It is a serious program for preparing docs,books etc...and viewing them obviously
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> christopher: It comes in the default install of Ubuntu.
[01:02] <Hysty> recon00: latex is a type of document format that uses special instructions to display formulas or graphics etc
[01:02] <amphi> christopher: that was, "yes, xchat is available in gnome"
[01:02] <christopher> ok now i have to get this addy copied right
[01:02] <christopher> my first time in xchat...
[01:02] <JloR> ompaul: I've been using some form of linux for roughly 7 years now - I'm currently in the middle of a computer science education, I know a fair bit about linux and I am perfectly aware of what "beta" or "unstable" implies in connection to software.. Yet, I gasp when something freezes up my linux box so bad that I have to hard-reboot it... That doesn't make me a linux newbie or a pain in the butt to you and the others in here..
[01:02] <amphi> christopher: can you not copy and paste that whole command into a terminal?
[01:02] <christopher> yeah i can
[01:02] <JloR> and thus doesn't give you (or anyone) the right to patronize me..
[01:03] <christopher> but im in enlightenment right now
[01:03] <christopher> not in gnome
[01:03] <amphi> christopher: doesn't matter
[01:03] <christopher> i dont want to leave this chat yet to switch untill i know i can get back into this room
[01:03] <christopher> oh
[01:03] <clever> i tryed both totem movie player and vlc on my laptop and both of them say encrypted dvd support isnt availble
[01:03] <Mordof> anyone have any experience installing nvidia drivers?
[01:03] <amphi> christopher: don't switch now
[01:03] <recon00> I can't find a latex viewer in synaptic.
[01:03] <christopher> i just installed it.. so i dont know how to access anything
[01:03] <amphi> clever: you need libdvdcss probably
[01:04] <clever> how do i install it?
[01:04] <christopher> my application menu choice wont stay for me to scroll thru to pick an app to run
[01:04] <amphi> recon00: there's a GUI for latex called LyX, FWIW
[01:04] <christopher> its opens up really quickly and scrolls off the screen in a way
[01:04] <clever> apt-get libdvdcss?
[01:04] <amphi> !dvd
[01:04] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> christopher: I had that problem too.  Mucked around in settings and eventually fixed it, but I'm not sure exactly what.
[01:04] <clever> k:)
[01:04] <Mordof> i need help with nvidia drivers!!! my kernal is newer and the gcc compiler is newer than the drivers were made with! WHAT DO I DO?!?!
[01:04] <christopher> yeah i did too
[01:04] <Mordof> agh! so confused
[01:04] <christopher> i found the animation menu choice and i turned it off and it still does it
[01:04] <amphi> christopher: you have a terminal yet?
[01:05] <Hysty> recon00: Lyx is based on Latex, but it can also view latex documents
[01:05] <christopher> no
[01:05] <christopher> dont know how to get it
[01:05] <christopher> oh wait
[01:05] <christopher> nmd
[01:05] <amphi> got one?
[01:05] <christopher> yep
[01:05] <X-GueSt> ppl someone running Xgl succefully on dapper? :o
[01:05] <amphi> cool; paste that command I gave you
[01:05] <X-GueSt> I hav a problem
[01:05] <christopher> alright let me scrollll up
[01:05] <X-GueSt> An alternative to this, is just to run:
[01:05] <X-GueSt> Code:
[01:05] <X-GueSt> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mesalibs /opt/fdo/bin/glxcompmgr shadow wobbly
[01:05] <Mordof> (repost.. i really need help..) i need help with nvidia drivers!!! my kernal is newer and the gcc compiler is newer than the drivers were made with! WHAT DO I DO?!?!
[01:05] <amphi> christopher: do this is a terminal: wget http://people.debian.org/~dopey/fluxbox/ubuntu-breezy/fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[01:05] <elkbuntu> eep 66mb updates
[01:06] <X-GueSt> # LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mesalibs /opt/fdo/bin/glxcompmgr shadow wobbly
[01:06] <X-GueSt> /opt/fdo/bin/glxcompmgr: Couldn't open display :0.0
[01:06] <X-GueSt> why does this happen ?
[01:06] <X-GueSt> :|
[01:06] <amphi> christopher: *in a terminal
[01:06] <JloR> Thanks for the nice help people :-) I'll look into this dapper business tomorrow again, hopefully. Today has been a fun learning experience.
[01:06] <jhons2> (help) I am unable to install grub
[01:06] <amphi> hard lockup as learning experience? hehe
[01:06] <Delvien> Anyone here with experience with XGL ?
[01:06] <bj_> X-GueSt: type /join Xgl-ubuntu smart people in there
[01:06] <JloR> amphi: well, for a playing machine - yea.. :) nice
[01:06] <bj_> #Xgl-ubuntu
[01:06] <X-GueSt> Delvien, I want someone on that 2 :p
[01:07] <amphi> JloR: I used to lock mine up a lot mucking about with c and svgalib ;)
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> jhons2: It might help if you explain the problem you're having doing so.
[01:07] <christopher> ok 100 percent
[01:07] <JloR> amphi: so far I've only done it with X on my laptop (bad kernel module for Xfree86.. hehe) and this one time with ubuntu while upgrading to dapper :)
[01:07] <amphi> christopher: ok; now do sudo dpkg -i fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[01:08] <christopher> how do i copy and paste on this window?
[01:08] <christopher> only thing i can do is copy link
[01:08] <amphi> JloR: svgalib is good fun
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Ctrl-Shift-{C,V}
[01:08] <navarone> christopher, highlight text and pres ctrl-c
[01:08] <amphi> christopher: you should be able to select the text and then focus the terminal and do shift-insert
[01:08] <jhons2> tonyyarusso: i went through the installation proceess with Kubuntu then when it came to installing grub, i couldnt because it said it couldnt install it onto my MBR (i am installing Kubuntu on my slave HD)
[01:09] <amphi> christopher: highlight should be enough IMHO
[01:09] <JloR> amphi: thanks for the tip... I might look into that when I get time (that is, when I'm done playing with this dual-cpu thing and a few other servers running non-ubuntu). I'm off.
[01:09] <christopher> ahh cool
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Thought you meant a terminal window.
[01:09] <christopher> i like the insert option
[01:09] <navarone> jhons you can install grub on floppy  /dev/fd0
[01:09] <christopher> k its reading databases
[01:09] <jhons2> ya but i cant get into linux
[01:09] <ilmio> hello
[01:10] <christopher> uhoh
[01:10] <christopher> got an error
[01:10] <navarone> jhons did install finish okay?
[01:10] <jhons2> yes
[01:10] <christopher> well it got thru some of the process
[01:10] <amphi> christopher: "O Liability! I do disclaim thee!" ;)
[01:10] <christopher> lol
[01:10] <ilmio> excuseme i must edit the initialization string for thr modem device but i dont now where is located the fle that contain this string can somebody help me please?
[01:11] <navarone> jhons2 did you install on same drive as windows?
[01:11] <amphi> christopher: what was the error? please only paste the relevant line
[01:11] <christopher> it says... flubox depends on menu (>=2.1.19) ; however:
[01:11] <jhons2> navarone: no
[01:11] <christopher> package menu is not installed
[01:11] <christopher> dpkg: error processing fluxbox (--install):
[01:11] <amphi> christopher: ok, no worries; try sudo apt-get install menu
[01:11] <jhons2> navarone: but i restarted and it went into windows and now i dont even see my slave drive
[01:12] <amphi> christopher: apt-get deals with dependencies, but dpkg doesn't
[01:12] <christopher> oh that sudo command..
[01:12] <christopher> does that mean switch user do or super user do
[01:12] <christopher> its like a root bypass right?
[01:12] <Seveas> christopher, silly user do
[01:12] <amphi> christopher: in this case, super user do
[01:12] <navarone> jhons2, you can no longer see the slave drive cos it is formatted in linux file system and windows does not recognize it
[01:12] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[01:13] <jhons2> navarone: ok how do i get back into linux?
[01:13] <christopher> ok i typed sudo apt-get install menu
[01:13] <christopher> still going
[01:14] <christopher> ok its setting up i think
[01:14] <christopher> or already did im back at my command prompt
[01:14] <navarone> jhons2, you should be able to boot with the ubuntu cd and I think type rescue at prompt. That will get a "live" linux going and you can then install grub to floppy...are you using windows now I take it?
[01:14] <amphi> christopher: ok, up arrow until you get the sudo dpkg command back, and hit enter
[01:15] <jhons2> navarone: i am using windows xp now
[01:15] <judgen> Hi again
[01:15] <christopher> oh the first one
[01:15] <batman> can someone help me i'm trying to get the graphic libraries installed for php and i tried imagick php5-gd and neither have worked
[01:15] <amphi> christopher: yeah
[01:15] <jhons2> navarone:  when i get back into linux what do i do to install grub on a floppy
[01:15] <christopher> sudo dpkg -i fluxbox.etc...
[01:16] <amphi> christopher: yup
[01:16] <christopher> so scroll up that and just hit enter?
[01:16] <christopher> oh wow
[01:16] <amphi> christopher: up arrow back throuh the command history to it, and hit enter
[01:16] <christopher> i didnt know it saved all the commands
[01:16] <amphi> christopher: the shell is a garden of delights ;)
[01:17] <christopher> yes it is
[01:17] <amphi> Seveas: are you a ubuntu dev?
[01:17] <christopher> im 25 and i always wanted to learn what linux was about
[01:17] <Dasnipa`> its about being free as in beer
[01:17] <christopher> took me 7 years to get and start to put time into it
[01:17] <amphi> Dasnipa`: as in "information wants to be beer" ? ;)
[01:17] <Seveas> amphi, so far I've successfully avoided becoming one - this will not last forever I'm afraid
[01:17] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[01:17] <christopher> amphi so i take its installed now
[01:18] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[01:18] <Chris_Tucker> christopher, only took me 1 year :P
 took me 7 years to get and start to put time into it <-- cool!
[01:18] <amphi> christopher: if dpkg completed without error, yeah
[01:18] <christopher> lol
[01:18] <Seveas> hrm, wrong line...
 Dasnipa`: as in "information wants to be beer" ? ;) <-- THAT is cool :)
[01:18] <christopher> hey college got in the way people
[01:18] <christopher> i didnt have time to mess around with the computer like that
[01:18] <amphi> christopher: I find it better to put off the procrastination until nearer the time
[01:18] <phiber_optic> I have one problem...when I log into my universities ssh server and I run matlab when I click enter nothing happens.. It seems like enter, backspace is disabled...
[01:18] <phiber_optic> but when I log in from windows it works...
[01:18] <christopher> i even took a c++ programming class to help me get into it
[01:19] <amphi> Seveas: someone's .sig on k5 IIRC, not my own sadly
[01:19] <batman> does anyone know where i can get the graphic libraries for php? i tried imagick and php5-gd
[01:19] <Seveas> php5-gd should work
[01:19] <christopher> ok so now i fluxbox.. i take it. that its better than enlightenment
[01:19] <elkbuntu> providing you have php5 installed, not php4
[01:19] <Seveas> depends on what you mean by better
[01:19] <batman> Seveas, well my script says call to undefined for imagecreate
[01:19] <navarone> jhons2, boot from install cd and you can get a functioning live linux going. However I am fuzzy on what you really have to do then. I am not sure if you must mount the ubuntu partition after making a directory to mount it in or simply go to a terminla and type "grub install fd0". Perhaps someone else could provide further info there...?
[01:20] <batman> elkbuntu, yes i have php 5 installed
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: fluxbox is quite minimalist
[01:20] <ilmio> nobody can help me ?
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: I use openbox
[01:20] <christopher> better than gnome that is seveas
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: which is similar
[01:20] <amphi> christopher: 'better' is in the eye of the beholder
[01:21] <christopher> ok another prob
[01:21] <Seveas> amphi, and beauty is in the eye of the beerholder
[01:21] <motionblur> hi I've finally installed ubuntu on my pc, but I'm sadly back on xp because I can't get my network connection to work (I'm on a nat, my card is a rtl8139). can you help me please?
[01:21] <amphi> Seveas: heh
[01:21] <christopher> i went thru ubuntu documentation and wiki
[01:21] <christopher> and i still cant get realplayer10GOLD.bin to install
[01:21] <jhons2> navarone: thanks alot for your help! i found further info on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622
[01:21] <ipr> hi people , could any body please direct me to a web page that would help me install my lexmark Z611 in ubuntu ..thanks
[01:21] <_jason> christopher: I'd suggest not even bothering with it and just using mplayer with w32codecs
[01:22] <navarone> jhons2, good going...lol
[01:22] <navarone> jhons2, maybe easier to have something like a how to printed off since you will be net less for the duration
[01:22] <christopher> you guys dont mind the stupid questions do you?
[01:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell ipr about print
[01:22] <phiber_optic> ??
[01:22] <jhons2> navarone: thanks again- you got me pointed there!
[01:22] <_jason> christopher: that's why we come here
[01:22] <Mordof> question: i wanna upgrade to dapper or w/e it is, i have my /home dir on a seperate harddrive, can i get rid of ubuntu and install that without effecting my /home, but have dapper use it?
[01:22] <ipr> thanks jason
[01:22] <christopher> im  excited to just be using this and learning all this stuff hah
[01:23] <christopher> ok this is really really basic
[01:23] <navarone> jhons2, just take your time...it isn't a big deal really...just a simple operation
[01:23] <phbc50> motionblur > NAT meaning behing a Router ?
[01:23] <Seveas> christopher, we live for stupid questions :)
[01:23] <christopher> directories... how do they go?
[01:23] <Seveas> christopher, by foot
[01:23] <christopher> lol
[01:23] <_jason> I don't get the question or the answer...
[01:23] <christopher> i mean. im used to windows.. my documents. my shared files, my downloads, my pictures etc
[01:24] <amphi> christopher: you might find the 'intro to linux' book at tldp.org useful
[01:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about dirs
[01:24] <christopher> and of course the oh so famous program files directory which is where i dled everything to in windows
[01:24] <Seveas> christopher, ah :) google for FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard)
[01:24] <amphi> christopher: /usr/bin
[01:24] <christopher> well
[01:24] <christopher> heres what i do know
[01:24] <navarone> christopher everything's me me me with you...;)
[01:24] <christopher> home directory is the main directory and that i should just stick with that
[01:24] <Seveas> yes
[01:24] <nick01> can somebody tell me why do I get a firewall error in azureus if now firewall is enabled by default ?
[01:24] <christopher> but then the /etc /usr and /var are jus sitting there looking at me
[01:24] <phiber_optic> what is the command to simulate enter?
[01:25] <phiber_optic> like backspace is ctrl h
[01:25] <flummoxed> i just used wine to install Steam, but I can't figure out how to run Steam. it says use .wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/, but apparently that doesn't exist
[01:25] <Seveas> christopher, all programs are installed there :)
[01:25] <amphi> christopher: you're using stuff in them all the time, unbeknownst to yourself
[01:25] <christopher> navarone... and im not an only child heh
[01:25] <navarone> nick01, I think iptables is enabled by default...isn't it? anyone?
[01:25] <flummoxed> anyone know where wine installs stuff to?
[01:25] <nick01> navarone, how do I get rid of it ?
[01:25] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, c:\Program Files (or even having c:\ and d:\) is an utterly broken concept
[01:25] <Delvien> ah crap my udev is updateing...
[01:26] <christopher> ok so when i dl a program ... i should get used to installing them to /usr/bin?
[01:26] <Delvien> why the heck am i upgrading to xorg7?
[01:26] <nick01> nick01@T72:~$ ps aux |grep iptables
[01:26] <nick01> nick01    7817  0.0  0.3   3796   756 pts/0    S+   02:26   0:00 grep iptables
[01:26] <Seveas> christopher, no
[01:26] <motionblur> phbc50: yes
[01:26] <_jason> christopher: you should let the package manager do all that for you, all you do is ask it to install X
[01:26] <Seveas> christopher, you should get used to not manually downloading :)
[01:26] <amphi> Seveas: as is having file extensions determine executability, and ... and ...
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> christopher: No, you should use apt-get instead and never do anything yourself, 'cause that would take effort and would be silly.
[01:26] <christopher> oh
[01:26] <nick01> navarone, ps aux doesn't report iptables
[01:26] <flummoxed> does anyone know where wine installs stuff to?
[01:26] <Seveas> amphi, oh, we could go on for hours but that is just as pointless as all the things we'll say :)
[01:27] <christopher> lol so used to going to sites clicking the link and unraring something
[01:27] <Seveas> flummoxed, ~/.wine/fake_c_drive/ oslt
[01:27] <motionblur> phbc50: behind a router, but I'm in a nat network
[01:27] <navarone> nick01, you should keep iptables...I doubt you can even uninstall it...but you can use a prog like firestarter to configure it so that programs can get access to certain ports and such
[01:27] <amphi> christopher: apt-get should have pretty much everything you need
[01:27] <christopher> now apt-get is an alternative to synpatic package manager
[01:27] <flummoxed> is that the actual directory?
[01:27] <Seveas> christopher, think out of the box - think of everything that sucks about that and consider it not to be there in Ubuntu
[01:27] <tatters> who actually reads to make sure its fine?
[01:27] <christopher> and it will always have what i need?
[01:27] <amphi> christopher: yes, synaptic is a later incarnation
[01:27] <tatters> lol sry
[01:27] <Seveas> christopher, 95% of the time
[01:27] <nick01> navarone, u mean there's a firewall enabled ? I wanna get ridof it ! now !
[01:27] <_jason> christopher: that would be pretty difficult, for example beer is not in there afaik, maybe in a secret repo somewhere
[01:28] <Seveas> with a few very annoying but well-documented exceptions
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Synaptic is a frontend to apt.
[01:28] <amphi> christopher: time will tell, but you should rarely need anything else
[01:28] <Seveas> !find beer
[01:28] <tatters> who actually reads source to make sure its fine
[01:28] <batman> so can someone help me with my issue on getting the graphics libraries for php 5 and php5-gd doesn't work
[01:28] <navarone> !iptables
[01:28] <christopher> so if i wanted to get a program like glets...
[01:28] <christopher> whoops
[01:28] <christopher> desklets
[01:28] <elkbuntu> batman you -could- try the php channel here on freenode
[01:28] <Seveas> !+find beer
[01:28] <christopher> how would i search apt-get to get it for me
[01:28] <Seveas> elkbuntu, it's clearly an Ubuntu problem....
[01:28] <_jason> christopher: apt-cache search gdesklets
[01:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'beer' (5 shown; 30 total): (/usr/share/calc/beer.cal) in universe/math/apcalc-common ;; (/usr/share/emoticons/Default/beer.png) in libs/kdelibs-data ;; (/usr/share/overkill/grx/beer.avi) in universe/games/overkill ;; (/usr/share/apps/kmess/emoticons/beer.png) in universe/kde/kmess ;; (/usr/share/gajim/data/emoticons/beer.png) in universe/net/gajim.
[01:28] <Seveas> christopher, apt-cache search
[01:29] <amphi> christopher: apt-cache search gdesklets
[01:29] <motionblur> I've finally installed ubuntu on my pc, but I can't get my network connection to work (I'm on a nat, my card is a rtl8139). can you help me?
[01:29] <christopher> brilliant
[01:29] <flummoxed> i just used wine to install Steam, but I can't figure out how to run Steam. it says use .wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/, but apparently that doesn't exist. how can i start Steam?
[01:29] <_jason> ok, proven wrong...
[01:29] <christopher> love this chat room
[01:29] <Seveas> batman, did you restart apache after installing php5-gd?
[01:29] <phiber_optic> does anyone know the carriage return command for unix instead of just pressing enter?
[01:29] <christopher> do you know it would take a day to get that answer on a forum
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> christopher: And when you find the package, it's as easy as sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[01:29] <hyperactivecrond> flummoxed: you should've used Cedega
[01:29] <hyperactivecrond> !tell flummoxed about cedega
[01:29] <nick01> !firewall
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[01:29] <flummoxed> cedega = costs money
[01:29] <amphi> christopher: that should give you the package name; apt-cache show <package_name> will give more info about the package, and apt-get install <package_name> will do what you expect
[01:30] <elkbuntu> hmm that is strange then.. however, php5 did have some gd problems a few months back, i know because i ran into them when trying to use a photo blog package... i believe pixelpost
[01:30] <amphi> christopher: s/chat\ room/channel ;)
[01:30] <Mordof> how do i get out of X again?
[01:30] <navarone> nick01, are you using Blackdown java?
[01:30] <amphi> Mordof: alt-ctrl=backspace to exit violently
[01:30] <Mordof> amphi, that reloads
[01:30] <nick01> navarone, whatever java came with 5.10
[01:31] <bimberi> Mordof: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:31] <christopher> whats the s/chat\ room channel?
[01:31] <Mordof> bimberi, thx
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> nick01: Java doesn't come with Ubuntu.
[01:31] <Goldfisch> Mordof: Are you using Gnome? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:31] <_jason> christopher: huh?
[01:31] <nick01> gcj or whatever
[01:31] <ClayG> anyone here use mambo or joomla?
[01:31] <Seveas> christopher, it's a very geeky way to say that this is not a chat room but a channel
[01:31] <navarone> nick01, I think you need the Sun java version to use azureus
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> christopher: It means you should call it a channel, not a chat room.
[01:31] <bimberi> Mordof: np :)
[01:31] <nick01> anyway ubuntu works
[01:31] <amphi> christopher: means the term is 'channel' not 'chat room', which is some aol abomination
[01:31] <christopher> lol
[01:31] <christopher> ok ok ok
[01:31] <nick01> navarone, but azureus starts fine
[01:31] <spinelli> lkj
[01:31] <Seveas> amphi, keep the foul language to yourself please :)
[01:31] <christopher> all i see is red font
[01:31] <christopher> lol
[01:31] <tatters> if I created my own repos and in a room told someone to add it their source list could I in theory alter some packages for my own gains which they would be unaware of?
[01:31] <eugman> Hey there is a descrepancy between my shared folders and what shows up on the network.
[01:32] <christopher> i need to get used to the new terms
[01:32] <Seveas> tatters, yes
[01:32] <amphi> Seveas: sorry, some $ISP abomination ;)
[01:32] <navarone> nick01, then you simply cannot connect to anyone?
[01:32] <christopher> packages instead of zip files
[01:32] <Delvien> Anyone know what package i need for this error while compiling? checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:32] <hyperactivecrond> export $ISP=aol
[01:32] <christopher> apps instead of programs
[01:32] <amphi> christopher: zip files are archives compress with zip ;)
[01:32] <Seveas> Delvien, apt-get install intltool libxml-parser-perl
[01:32] <nick01> navarone, yup ;(
[01:32] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, ditch the $ there or it won't work
[01:33] <christopher> ok now heres another common question
[01:33] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, and given that it's aol it won't work anyway :)
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: realized right after i typed it :)
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> lol
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> s/lol/heh
[01:33] <christopher> KDE is the fluxbox?
[01:33] <elkbuntu> seveas you beat me to it
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> that's another aol ism
[01:33] <hd420> I installed socat, tor, and privoxy... then removed them because they messed up ssh, now apt-get isn't updating itself
[01:33] <Seveas> christopher, no
[01:33] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, no the aolism is LOLOLOL!!!11!!!@!
[01:33] <amphi> hyperactivecrond: shell variables are preceded by $ except for assignment, in keeping with unix's consistency ;(
[01:33] <Delvien> seveas thanks, will be coming with more :P
[01:33] <navarone> nick01, do all your torrents stay yellow?
[01:33] <herni> hello
[01:33] <christopher> because i know theres GNOME and KDE and ppl prefer certain ones. but KDE is the Linus Torvals fav
[01:33] <nick01> navarone, they stay red
[01:33] <hyperactivecrond> !tell christopher about fluxbox
[01:34] <Seveas> christopher, torvalds should stick to kernel hacking
[01:34] <hyperactivecrond> !tell christopher about kde
[01:34] <Mordof> ok, so I installed gcc 3.4, but the nvidia drivers still say its using 4.0 by default, how do i tell it to use 3.4?
[01:34] <amphi> christopher: linux doesn't like framebuffer console, which shows how much he knows ;)
[01:34] <Seveas> Mordof, export CC=gcc-3.4
[01:34] <eugman> Hey what can do I need to delete so when I reinstall samba the settings will be blank?
[01:34] <elkbuntu> seveas, zomfg ur so rite LOLOLOLOOLL!!!!!!111one
[01:34] <christopher> i wish i knew what that was lol
[01:34] <Seveas> that was one too much
[01:34] <Mordof> Seveas, where do i type that.. in the installation or terminal or what
[01:35] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me please? When i ssh to my university server I cant use enter key or backsapce on matlab any ideas?
[01:35] <elkbuntu> :P
[01:35] <amphi> christopher: hi res text console by putting the video card into a graphics mode
[01:35] <hyperactivecrond> Mordof: in a shell
[01:35] <christopher> well i was just in this hub on DC++ and this guyy totally flamed me for using ubuntu
[01:35] <Mordof> in a shell?
[01:35] <Seveas> Mordof, just before you eecute the installer
[01:35] <Mordof> Seveas, ok
[01:35] <christopher> actually for using linux
[01:35] <christopher> and that he used openbsd
[01:35] <Seveas> hehe
[01:35] <amphi> christopher: *shrug*
[01:35] <Delvien> Seveas either im confused or just plain dumb .....Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[01:35] <Delvien> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[01:35] <navarone> nick01, try this entry http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4089.html  <-- look for entry that starts "after head scratching..."
[01:35] <Delvien> woops..
[01:35] <Seveas> bsd just smells funny :)
[01:35] <amphi> christopher: the response to such is "bsd is dying" ;)
[01:36] <Eleaf> hi
[01:36] <judgen> How do i mount a ntfs partition? and how do i add it to automount? mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1   ?
[01:36] <christopher> so i figure i have alot of learning to do if im struggling with a user friendly distro with a userfriendly desktop
[01:36] <Seveas> !tell judgen about ntfs
[01:36] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: maybe we should put the consequences for excessive bot crap in teh ubotu usage wikipage?
[01:36] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, feel free to do so
[01:36] <judgen> nice
[01:36] <christopher> oh well i told him to eat a certain body part
[01:36] <Seveas> rofl
[01:36] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: wiki account's disabled... ++ me
[01:36] <Goldfisch> eugman: dpkg -P <thepackage> <---- it will remove the packages, and also any config files
[01:36] <_jason> christopher: ah I have the perfect thing for you to read.  Someone told me about it the other day and I wish I had seen it when I started.  i'll have the bot send you a link
[01:36] <yodebian> l
[01:36] <amphi> christopher: the learning curve can be steep at first; there are a lot of useful docs at tldp.org amongst many places
[01:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about rute
[01:37] <christopher> i had the linux for dummies boox
[01:37] <Seveas> the rute book is gread
[01:37] <Seveas> great even
[01:37] <christopher> and the desktop manual that goes with it
[01:37] <christopher> but i cant find them.. packed away
[01:37] <nick01> navarone, THANK YOU !
[01:37] <navarone> nick01, hope it works
[01:37] <christopher> so i just been reading ubuntu forums, linux distro, linux forums. linuxquestions.org
[01:38] <Mordof> ok, i tried that.. now it says it cannot find the kernal source files
[01:38] <Seveas> christopher, books are usually written with red hat or one of its clones in mind
[01:38] <christopher> yeah thats what i heard
[01:38] <elkbuntu> do you have the kernel headers installed?
[01:38] <christopher> so they dont help much
[01:38] <Mordof> elkbuntu, no idea, how do i check :p
[01:38] <Seveas> christopher, add to that list: help.ubuntu.com / wiki.ubuntu.com and you'll be fine :)
[01:38] <amphi> christopher: there is also the debian reference at debian.org, much of which applies to ubuntu
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> Oh, btw, my O'Reilly books actually cater to Ubuntu.
[01:38] <_jason> tonyyarusso: really, which ones>
[01:39] <navarone> christopher, google is your friend and never complains that you ask the same questions over and over. I should know
[01:39] <christopher> ok if i switch to fluxbox right now will i be able to get back into this room umm i mean channel
[01:39] <Delvien> Anyone know what i should do with this ?  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[01:39] <Delvien> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[01:39] <_jason> christopher: what irc client are you using now?
[01:39] <christopher> yeah i know.. i did that alot but kept getting bad search results that didnt help me or were slightly different
[01:39] <tatters> 49 % of zombie pc are linux machines Y is that?
[01:39] <madgik85> im looking to install Compiz on my Ubuntu 5.10, so i believe I have to install X.org 7.0 ... is this stable to use?
[01:39] <hd420> why would apt-get update be failing to fetch packages?
[01:39] <amphi> christopher: should be able; right click on the root window for applications menu
[01:39] <christopher> xchat i guess?
[01:39] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me please? When i ssh to my university server I cant use enter key or backsapce on matlab any ideas?
[01:39] <Goldfisch> My FUD sensor is going off.....
[01:39] <christopher> im still in englightenment
[01:40] <amphi> christopher: if you can't find xchat, try typing xchat in a terminal window
[01:40] <elkbuntu> check in synaptic and see if linux-headers 2.6.12-10-386 (presuming you're using the 2.6.12-10-386 kernel) is installed
[01:40] <christopher> and i cant do anything here it sucks
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Linux Desktop Pocket Guide, and my other, Linux Desktop Hacks, seems good for everything.
[01:40] <hd420> phiber_optic: man stty
[01:40] <christopher> ok then what
[01:40] <carpediem> christopher: yeah, it'll be there.  Right click on the fluxbox desktop
[01:40] <madgik85> i mean if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:40] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ah did you mean they mention ubuntu, or they were just very helpful to you?
[01:40] <navarone> christopher I think you'd like xfce if fluxbox doesn't float your boat
[01:40] <christopher> ok there are four tabs under this text box right now
[01:41] <amphi> christopher: what are you using for irc right now?
[01:41] <christopher> EFnet Ubuntu Servers #ubuntu and Ubotu
[01:41] <_jason> christopher: one is probably from 'ubotu' with some links people told him to send you
[01:41] <christopher> ok
[01:41] <christopher> so this is the #ubuntu channel
[01:41] <amphi> christopher: it is
[01:41] <elkbuntu> mmmm tasty.. dapper updates ordering me to reboot...see youse in a bit... hopefully
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> _jason: The Desktop Pocket Guide mentions a bunch, and then says that Ubuntu is really good and become quite popular, so it will be especially applicable to that for the remainder of the book.
[01:41] <_jason> tonyyarusso: that's cool
[01:41] <herni> i managed to do something to my gnome panel.. now firestarter and rhythmbox no longer minimize, if i click the close button they just..close. any ideas?
[01:42] <christopher> ok ill brb hopefully haha
[01:42] <yanimax> is it normal that mysql doesn't work with Ubuntu Dapper ? => ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[01:42] <SeyToN> can someone help me please?
[01:42] <Goldfisch> SeyToN: We need a little more than that. What do you need?
[01:43] <SeyToN> dpkg --install and deb file
[01:43] <SeyToN> it seems allready install but i dont know what to do next
[01:43] <Engla> anyone here got skippy-xd to work?
[01:43] <phiber_optic> hd420, so how will I use it.. Im new to linuix
[01:43] <phiber_optic> well fairly new
[01:43] <madgik85> i too would like some help, ... just to know if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10 ? help would be appriciated
[01:43] <Goldfisch> SeyToN: Installed what?
[01:43] <Seveas> herni, re-add the notification area to your panel
[01:43] <Engla> I'd love to get it to work, but after I built it, it just says "Can't connect to display" when I try it
[01:43] <SeyToN> frostlime
[01:44] <SeyToN> frostwire*
[01:44] <Mr_Smiley> hi
[01:44] <christopher> hello?
[01:44] <hd420> phiber_optic: put the stty incantation into your shell's startup file, no, I don't know what the correct options are and I have some trouble of my own to sort out, else  I'd love to figure it out
[01:45] <SeyToN> root@linux:/home/kevin/Desktop# dpkg --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[01:45] <SeyToN> Selecting previously deselected package frostwire.
[01:45] <SeyToN> (Reading database ... 61372 files and directories currently installed.)
[01:45] <SeyToN> Unpacking frostwire (from FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb) ...
[01:45] <SeyToN> Setting up frostwire (4.10.5-1) ...
[01:45] <SeyToN> whats next?
[01:45] <Goldfisch> SeyToN: I have never heard of that package. Don't what is supposed to be available after install.
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> SeyToN: Don't paste here.  Use !pastebin
[01:45] <hd420> grrr
[01:45] <Engla> SeyToN: it's installed
[01:46] <fooo> hi what is a good fgl_glxgears value on a ati mobility radeon?
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> seth|away: Running it unless there were errors setting up.
[01:46] <SeyToN> how do i run it?
[01:46] <SeyToN> ./frostwire?
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: the dependencies are not automatically installed, but try to run it
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: try 'frostwire'
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: but you can use synaptic to check the package's contents and what it installed
[01:46] <Goldfisch> Synaptic can give a readout on what files are installed. I don't know how to do it from command-line. Maybe SeyToN can get a readout telling him what is in /usr/bin.
[01:46] <Engla> SeyToN: optimally you should know from the source of the package what it contains and how you use it
[01:47] <SeyToN> nah i gotta install the java crap now :(\
[01:47] <recon00> How can I convert LaTeX files to another format?
[01:47] <amphi> christopher: no, you're not here
[01:47] <flummoxed> hey, how do i make it so that i have permission to write to a folder like TrueType? could i use a console command to be sudo and copy something to it?
[01:47] <christopher> hello
[01:47] <christopher> thank god
[01:47] <christopher> there you are
[01:47] <phiber_optic> hd420, dont you know the command for enter? like backspace is ctrl h
[01:47] <Goldfisch> Okay, time to cruise off the MLUG. Later.
[01:47] <amphi> christopher: where?
[01:47] <Engla> recon00: what do you want to do with them??
[01:47] <christopher> here
[01:47] <christopher> is this the room i was just in?
[01:47] <amphi> christopher: it is
[01:47] <hd420> phiber_optic: I don't have time to help you, I have problems of my own, mate, sorrry
[01:48] <Engla> recon00: normally you 'typeset' latex files into dvi or pdf format (this is the product you normally want to read)
[01:48] <Engla> recon00: then you can take that pdf/dvi and convert it with tools I don't know about
[01:48] <christopher> ok good
[01:48] <elkbuntu> well good news, dapper didnt break me :D
[01:48] <madgik85> any help would be appriciated, ... just to know if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10 ? thank you
[01:48] <christopher> alright im in flux so far i like it
[01:48] <christopher> its really really minimal
[01:48] <recon00> Engla: ?? I just downloaded .tex files to read, but i can't read them. simply put, i don't know how to read them, so i'm trying to convert them to a different format.
[01:48] <christopher> seems like it has the bes tof the best already picked out for you
[01:49] <fooo> hey 1551 frames in 5.0 seconds = 310.200 FPS in  fgl_glxgears would that be the wrong driver?
[01:49] <_jason> recon00: install tetex and run latex on them
[01:49] <ubuntu> hello all
[01:49] <carpediem> christopher: I like flux's tabbed features for the window manager
[01:50] <christopher> you mean how you right click on the desktop and everything is right there
[01:50] <hyperactivecrond> elkbuntu: which version?
[01:50] <carpediem> christopher: no.  Middle-click drag a window handle onto another window handle
[01:50] <Engla> recon00: Aha. You need to typeset them, to make pdfs. You need a very big package to do that though (tetex or an alternative), so the best thing would be to get your source to typeset it for you
[01:50] <Engla> recon00: or you could IM me the file, I could typeset it and then send you the pdf
[01:51] <Klohunt> Im confused on whether to learn java or C++ :|
[01:51] <xored> somone who can help me with hda_intel on a ubuntu brezzey with 15er kernel and newwest, modalr alsa drivers, which are all install all unmuteded but still no sound
[01:51] <elkbuntu> hyperactivecrond, dapper drake 6.04 the latest updates
[01:51] <hyperactivecrond> cool
[01:51] <carpediem> Klohunt: depends on what you want to do.
[01:51] <christopher> oh i know what you mean
[01:51] <hd420> anyone know why apt-get update would fail to fetch packages?
[01:51] <christopher> like mozillas tabbed feature
[01:51] <carpediem> christopher: yeah, sort of
[01:51] <christopher> i only have one window opened up right now
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Repos down?
[01:51] <Klohunt> general stuff: networking, some operating system related stuff
[01:51] <elkbuntu> hyperactivecrond, dapper is quite comfortably stable now, since it's nearing the end of the alpha cycle
[01:52] <hd420> tonyyarusso: doesn't seem to be, from another machine, the files retrieve fine
[01:52] <Klohunt> for example, what did Google use in making Google Desktop? C++?
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Updated?
[01:52] <carpediem> Klohunt: java is excellent for networking, c++ is better for "operating system stuff"
[01:52] <hd420> tonyyarusso: updated?
[01:52] <hd420> what do you mean updated?
[01:52] <christopher> for the windows manager tab...
[01:52] <hyperactivecrond> Klohunt: c++ - .net if you want to be rather portable
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> hd420: apt-get update recently?
[01:53] <christopher> one of the option is enlightenment, the next flux box and the third is metacity...
[01:53] <Klohunt> ok I see
[01:53] <hd420> tonyyarusso: that's what's failing
[01:53] <madgik85> any help would be appriciated, ... just to know if X.org 7.0 is stable on Ubuntu 5.10 ? thank you
[01:53] <carpediem> hyperactivecrond: um...your definition of portable is questionable to say the least
[01:53] <Engla> madgik85: v7 is not in Ubuntu 5.10
[01:53] <Klohunt> and as of today, which langauge is more popular? (as in more programmers)
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Ah, 'k.
[01:53] <christopher> this isnt to switch to the different desktops is it?
[01:53] <christopher> i thought cntrl alt backspace did that
[01:53] <Engla> Klohunt: hard to say, both java and c++ have lots and lots and lots of developers
[01:53] <hyperactivecrond> carpediem: carpediem: s/reasonably/remotely
[01:53] <Klohunt> My ubuntu disks may have been lost in the mail :O
[01:53] <christopher> oh wow it does
[01:53] <hd420> tonyyarusso: any suggestions?
[01:53] <ubuntu> is there something wrong with installing windows after ubuntu?
[01:54] <madgik85> Engla ... i dont mean if its in Ubuntu 5.10, i mean if i upgrade to it, would it be stable and run properly?
[01:54] <Klohunt> I see
[01:54] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu: ntldr will overwrite grub
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> hd420: But the rest of internet things works I take it.  Have you had success on this machine recently or is it a new install?
[01:54] <ubuntu> hyperactivecrond, thanks
[01:54] <ubuntu> exit
[01:54] <christopher> crap
[01:54] <ubuntu> oops
[01:54] <christopher> got stuck in enlightenment again
[01:54] <Klohunt> did anyone else wait 9 weeks for their disks to arrive?
[01:54] <coz> hello anyone here using dapper?
[01:55] <Klohunt> I hope they come soon :D
[01:55] <hd420> tonyyarusso: I installed tor, privoxy, and socat, which broke ssh, so I removed them and apt stopped updating
[01:55] <christopher> anyone know a command to put in terminal to switch back to fluxbox without closing my irc session
[01:55] <ggoodman> I can't seem to get fglrx to work (radeon mobility 9200).. when i start x using the fglrx driver, the screen gets massively corrupted and mostly freezes
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> coz: why did you install dapper X\
[01:55] <elkbuntu> coz yes
[01:55] <carpediem> Klohunt: I'd say for getting a job, java/.net.  For hacking, c/c++
[01:55] <coz> yes i have it installed
[01:55] <hd420> before installing those 3, things were working fine
[01:55] <Engla> madgik85: aha. I don't know, perhaps. I use a CVS build but it reports as "X Window System Version 6.9.0 (Minimal DRI build from X.org tree)"
[01:55] <coz> well I have one complaint
[01:55] <coz> I am not sure who is responsible
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> hd420: I've got nothing.
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> coz: why? it's not stable yet
[01:55] <thetruth> !sudo
[01:55] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> coz: ask away though
[01:55] <Klohunt> thanks carpediem.. I asked because on Google's Jobs page it has openings for C++ and Java programmers
[01:55] <flummoxed> hey, whats the syntax for the cp command? cp <file you want to copy> SPACE <destination folder> ?
[01:55] <Klohunt> I only know Delphi :P
[01:55] <coz> well it's ok it is getting cloe to release time
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> !tell thetruth about msgthebot
[01:56] <Seveas> flummoxed, yup
[01:56] <_jason> flummoxed: yes, try man cp too
[01:56] <hd420> tonyyarusso: that's hardly helpful, mate :)
[01:56] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[01:56] <hyperactivecrond> coz: if it crashes, don't blame us. it's not stable yet
[01:56] <coz> no my complaint is that when you boot into dapper it has that old mac "busy" curosr that damn clock
[01:56] <flummoxed> man cp?
[01:56] <carpediem> Klohunt: well, Google is a pretty hard place to get a job
[01:56] <elkbuntu> lol
[01:56] <madgik85> Engla ... ok, well ill have a go, if it works it works, otherwise :(  ... :) thanks for help
[01:56] <_jason> flummoxed: put 'man cp' in your terminal and it will give you the manual
[01:56] <hd420> carpediem: they wanted to hire me, I told them to piss off
[01:56] <elkbuntu> that's your complaint?
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> hd420: Yeah, I know.  Was hoping for something else for your problem.
[01:56] <Engla> madgik85: good luck
[01:56] <Klohunt> Yeah :( Thankfully I have enough time to practice before  I apply (Senior in high school)
[01:57] <carpediem> hd420: I didn't say impossible....hard
[01:57] <coz> If anyone here is responsibel for that dam mac clock busy cursor PLEASE get rid of it
[01:57] <Klohunt> hd420, I heard it was a nice place to work?
[01:57] <hd420> carpediem: it's not that hard to get into google, mate
[01:57] <hyperactivecrond> coz: blame the artwork team
[01:57] <hd420> Klohunt: I never started working there
[01:57] <elkbuntu> coz and grow up
[01:57] <coz> I would if i could contact them
[01:57] <navarone> carpediem, yeah you'd think some of the millionaires still in their cubilcles would quit and live a little and give someone else a job...lol
[01:57] <_jason> coz: what would you rather have?
[01:57] <coz> elkbuntu what?????
[01:57] <elkbuntu> coz, ubuntuforums.org
[01:57] <Robocision> Hello again
[01:57] <Klohunt> I hear people ride around on mopeds in the Googleplex
[01:57] <coz> I liked the breezy busy circle
[01:57] <hyperactivecrond> seveas: nice add to ubotu :)
[01:58] <carpediem> hd420: yeah, but he's not going to learn Java today, and get a job at Google tomorrow.....
[01:58] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, ?
[01:58] <Robocision> Okay, it seems when i installed Ubuntu, it already installed the correct alsa for my Audigy Gamer.  I still have no sound.  What can I do?  It all shows up in my device manager.
[01:58] <hd420> coz: send them your resume, I got a phone interview an hour after I sent it in to the jobs email.
[01:58] <coz> elkbuntu I hope I grow up just like you
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> !goirish
[01:58] <ubotu> Go Irish! Beat Orangemen!
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> it says you added that seveas
[01:58] <coz> hd420 really great
[01:58] <hd420> carpediem: you don't need Java to get hired
[01:58] <Seveas> hehe, it's an old one, i just corrected it :)
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> :)
[01:58] <Klohunt> hd420: what do you need, C++?
[01:58] <Seveas> one of the few tolerated crap entries :)
[01:58] <carpediem> ugh, forget it.
[01:59] <hd420> Klohunt: you need a brain to know that languages are irrelevant to work
[01:59] <hd420> :)
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> no, people, don't bloat ubotu... we don't want to call him ubloatu
[01:59] <Klohunt> oh, and , I have a descent amount of years before even applying :(
[01:59] <eugman> Hey any idea why when I try to get to my computer website from ym ip I get asked for a password for wrt54g or something but when I use <IP_ADDRESS> it's fine?]
[01:59] <Robocision> Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get sound?
[01:59] <coz> Just tried to install houdini on my breezy machine with an amd k7 processor
[01:59] <coz>  no go
[01:59] <eugman> I'me bhind a router if that might be the cause
[01:59] <coz> no sse
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> hd420: #include <iostream>; using namespace std; int work (void)
[01:59] <Klohunt> Yes hd420, but I am pretty proficient in Delphi, but when I look at C++ code I get confused
[01:59] <hd420> I applied 6 months before graduating from college
[01:59] <Klohunt> so if a group was doing a C++ project, I would have to kno wmy way around the languge
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> klohunt: take a class on it
[01:59] <Robocision> Okay, it seems when i installed Ubuntu, it already installed the correct alsa for my Audigy Gamer.  I still have no sound.  What can I do?
[02:00] <hd420> Klohunt: then you need to learn programming theory, not C++
[02:00] <Robocision> :(  Linux is hard for coddled windows boys like myself.
[02:00] <Klohunt> I see
[02:00] <tatters> hmm Y does ubotu support terroism?
[02:00] <flummoxed> whats the folder name for the File System? like ~/<File System>
[02:00] <hd420> languages are a fad
[02:00] <hyperactivecrond> flummoxed: ?
[02:00] <wvelez> hi...is there a rar password cracker for ubuntu? thanks
[02:00] <carpediem> Klohunt: my advice is try to get a job doing C++ or Java, and after you do that for a while, consider Google.  They won't hire you to do Java with no Java experience.
[02:00] <coz> Robosicsion do you have ll the libs etc installed?
[02:00] <Klohunt> and aren't Java and C++ similar anyway?
[02:00] <kwewu14> i have a barton cpu, should i use k7 or 686 kernel?
[02:00] <flummoxed> like... im trying to copy a font to the true type folder
[02:00] <_jason> flummoxed: it's just /
[02:00] <hyperactivecrond> wvelez: no h4ck1ng jere [;ease
[02:00] <flummoxed> but its telling me the folder doesnt exist
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell flummoxed about fonts
[02:01] <spinelli>              /msg nickserv set hide email on
[02:01] <spinelli> opps
[02:01] <coz> Robosicsion type alsamixer in terminal
[02:01] <Robocision> coz I just installed Ubuntu and the card and alsa appears under my device manager.  I don't know what ll is. :(
[02:01] <flummoxed> ~/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
[02:01] <flummoxed>  is the directory im trying to get it to
[02:01] <tatters> ubtou! terrorism
[02:01] <kwewu14> -=-=-=[ i have a barton cpu, should i use k7 or 686 kernel? ] =-=-=-
[02:01] <_jason> flummoxed: ~ is the same as /home/username
[02:01] <tatters> eh
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> eh.
[02:02] <elkbuntu> ooh yay my partitions are back on the desktop
[02:02] <coz> robocision fo to terminal type alsamixer and see if anything is muted or volume is down
[02:02] <_jason> flummoxed: see the link the bot sent you on installing fonts
[02:02] <eipipuz> hi, does anyone knows about webcams? I'm trying to install a genius gf112...
[02:02] <Seveas> kwewu14, whatever you do, don't do such annoying things again
[02:02] <yanimax> on Dapper, mysql 5.0 works when I install it, but not after a reboot, i have to reinstall to make it work again, does someone have the solution ?
[02:02] <cdubya> anyone using a gmail account and able to check it using a regular mail client?
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> !wiki webcams
[02:02] <yanimax> I get this => ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[02:02] <elkbuntu> eipipuz do a google search for spca5xx and see if it's listed as supported
[02:02] <tatters> ubotu! terrorism
[02:02] <Seveas> cdubya, you need to activate that in the gmail settings
[02:02] <_jason> cdubya: I have in the past, why?
[02:02] <coz> eipipuz I have a logitech orbit what is the problem
[02:02] <judgen> How do i remove that annoying bar on ot of the screen that looks like osx crap. (kubuntu)
[02:02] <kwewu14> Seveas: you are useless.
[02:02] <meshe> yanimax: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> tatters: ?!?
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> kwewu14: bad move
[02:02] <christopher> hey guys can you send me those links again?
[02:03] <Robocision> coz, turned everything up in alsamixer and still nothing. :(
[02:03] <jhons2> Cam i get some help from someone on how to use GRUB with a floppy?
[02:03] <flummoxed> what do i do if the fonts folder tells me i dont have permission to write to it?
[02:03] <flummoxed> i cant change that with the properties
[02:03] <coz> robocision NOT everything
[02:03] <hd420> looks like I broke apt
[02:03] <cdubya> Seveas, k. kewl. thanks, jason_, cause my ISP seems to be experiencing technical difficulties that they weren't adept to at this point....
[02:03] <cappiz> someone here good with unionfs?
[02:03] <eipipuz> I got the spca5xx driver, made it, however it fails to modprobe.
[02:03] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: can i /msg you?
[02:03] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, always :)
[02:03] <Robocision> what should I have?   Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:03] <Seveas> eipipuz, yes
[02:03] <cdubya> Seveas, don't suppose that will be straightforward from what I saw when I tried to sign up...........?
 it doesn't work better
[02:04] <cdubya> :)
[02:04] <flummoxed> i did, but it wont let me write to it
[02:04] <Seveas> cdubya, you don't sign up, you need an invitation :)
[02:04] <meshe> yanimax: what did it say when you entered that comand?
[02:04] <_jason> flummoxed: you can't write to ~/.fonts??
[02:04] <tatters> obviously a refrence to northern ireland conflict
[02:04] <cdubya> Seveas, umm, ok.
[02:04] <hyperactivecrond> sudo chmod +x ~/.fonts
 Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...already running.
[02:04] <cdubya> great, now I just gotta find someone to invite me.
[02:04] <tatters> or is there some other kinda orangemen I am unaware of of?
[02:04] <cdubya> :)
[02:05] <flummoxed> ah, was trying to write to the usr/share/fonts
[02:05] <Seveas> cdubya, if you want one pm me your current address ;)
 nor special error msg, even with 'restart'
[02:05] <Robocision> coz, NOT everything?
[02:05] <navarone> tatters more likely a football reference
[02:05] <hyperactivecrond> !tell kwewu14 about coc
[02:05] <coz> Robocision No sending you the pics would be alot of upload/download
[02:05] <flummoxed> im trying to install a microsoft font that will be used with Steam though... will this work right?
[02:05] <_jason> flummoxed: when you can, it's always better not to mess with stuff outside your $HOME
[02:05] <elkbuntu> eipipuz, ge122 or gf122?
[02:05] <coz> let me check hold on
[02:06] <meshe> yanimax: is it checked in rcconf?
[02:06] <Robocision> I got the little infinity sign under some too.
[02:06] <xored> somone who can help me with hda_intel on a ubuntu brezzey with 15er kernel and newwest, modalr alsa drivers, which are all install all unmuteded but still no sound
[02:06] <_jason> flummoxed: I would try it first and see, I don't know how nice steam plays with linux
[02:06] <elkbuntu> eipipuz, err ge112 or gf112?
[02:06] <xored> somone who can help me with hda_intel on a ubuntu brezzey with 15er kernel and newwest, modalr alsa drivers, which are all install all unmuteded but still no sound
[02:06] <purpleheart_USMC> Is there a GUI program that rips CD's and puts them in mp3 fomat?
[02:06] <tatters> thnk god there not a team called niggers then
 what do you mean ?
[02:06] <eipipuz> gf
[02:06] <purpleheart_USMC> I want mp3's to use on my ipod
[02:06] <meshe> run rcconf
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> tatters: follow coc please
 i don't know what is rcconf
[02:06] <navarone> purpleheart_USMC, soundjuicer
[02:06] <coz> Robocision, have you checked all the forum information about sound problems?
[02:06] <Robocision> not sure how to turn stuff off and on in alsa mixer.
[02:06] <christopher> can whoever it was send me those links via the bot
[02:06] <christopher> i need good learning material
[02:06] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, he was discussing the !goirish remark :)
[02:06] <Robocision> most.  and all of the wiki
[02:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about rute
 i don't have such command
[02:07] <nick01> I forgot if my partition is ext3 or reiserfs - how do I check ?
[02:07] <christopher> thanks jason
[02:07] <elkbuntu> eipipuz, because the spca5xx doesnt list gf112 as supported
[02:07] <coz> Robocision if you hit the letter "m" on the keyboard it will mute or unmute
[02:07] <tatters> my comment was in context
[02:07] <meshe> yanimax: hmmm, that must've been one i installed after: sudo apt-get install rcconf
[02:07] <eipipuz> strange 20060202 says so
[02:07] <coz> Robocision whichever bar you have higlighted
[02:07] <navarone> Robocision, in alsamixer you use the arrow keys near keypad to move left and right thru the sources and up and down to lower or raise volume
[02:07] <Seveas> tatters, that goirish thing originated from #ubuntu-offtopic and was entered by one of the most peace loving people from the channel - I'm sure it's no terrorism reference
[02:07] <christopher> ubotu: tell _jason he can have sex with my gf for his and his colleagues generosity
[02:07] <glauc> hey, whats a good ghost like open source utility?
[02:08] <ubuntu> yop
[02:08] <tatters> I am just saying maybe that phrase form the bot does not travel welll
[02:08] <eipipuz> weird, now it doesn't say anything bad, maybe I just needed to reboot
[02:08] <ubuntu> i have a problem
[02:08] <coz> glauc Ghost
[02:08] <yanimax> Can't create lock(/var/lock/rcconf). at /usr/bin/rcconf line 1004.
[02:08] <_jason> christopher: umm thanks I guess
[02:08] <purpleheart_USMC> navarone: how do you make the mp3's though?  only ogg and wavs are in soundjuicer
[02:08] <glauc> coz, right, but I was thinking more for linux
[02:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ cd rofl
[02:08] <ubuntu> bash: cd: rofl: Permission non accorde
[02:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo cd rofl
[02:08] <ubuntu> sudo: cd: command not found
[02:08] <ortner> anyone knows what the problem is if youre font in wine is exchanged by music notes?
 Can't create lock(/var/lock/rcconf). at /usr/bin/rcconf line 1004.
[02:08] <navarone> tatters I think most people in the area affected would recognize the inference
[02:08] <Seveas> ubuntu, never paste in here
[02:08] <ubuntu> ok
[02:08] <meshe> yanimax: sudo rcconf
[02:08] <coz> glauc ghost can ghost any os
[02:08] <coz> including ext3
[02:08] <UFO> so, ubuntu is using debian mirrors but when do they mirror them for new distribution... did take a copy of unstable and use it?
[02:08] <nick01> how do I check if a partition is ext3 or reiserfs ?
[02:08] <glauc> coz: well, I want a free ghost like utility :)
[02:08] <navarone> !mp3
[02:08] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:09] <Seveas> nick01, sudo fdisk -l
[02:09] <navarone> purpleheart_USMC, ^^^
[02:09] <coz> glauc i understand I don't really know of any that si out there
[02:09] <nick01> tks
[02:09] <scam> alright is there any way to make a mouse load the same buttons each time you reboot?
[02:09] <coz>  youcan back up your system without a utility
 ok, and then, once i get the list, what to do ?
[02:09] <UFO> or once or twice per year?
[02:09] <navarone> nick01, is azureus working now?
[02:09] <scam> last reboot my back button was 6 and this time its 2
[02:09] <glauc> coz: alright, thanks, i'll have a look around
[02:09] <meshe> yanimax: is mysql checked?
[02:09] <ortner> anyone heard of anything like my problem?
 yes
[02:09] <coz> I think someone here may have a godd solution for back up is you ask again
[02:09] <Seveas> UFO, they do a lot more than that but they basically sync as much as possible every 6 months
[02:09] <nick01> navarone, no-I'm compiling a new kernel
[02:10] <tatters> k my understandidng but just saying hoew it might appear to a european who has no clue about american football which I assume it was refrence to know I have been informed
[02:10] <navarone> nick01, are you compiling a kernel sans iptables? lol
[02:10] <UFO> Seveas: thx...
 everything is checked but 'alsasound' and 'bootlogd'
[02:10] <Robocision> wait, in alsa mixer it says a different card than my SB
[02:10] <cappiz> Seveas have you used unionfs?
[02:10] <nick01> Seveas, that didn't work- it only sais linux
[02:10] <ortner> anyone knows what the problem is if youre font in wine is exchanged by music notes?
[02:10] <nick01> navarone, yeah :)
[02:10] <coz> Robocision what does it say?
[02:10] <Seveas> cappiz, not yet
[02:10] <christopher> hey has anyone upgraded their firefox to the latest version?
[02:11] <tatters> but non the less in my example the phrase could be mistaken
[02:11] <amphi> christopher: tldp.org
[02:11] <navarone> nick01, ummm..maybe good idea to install it independent of your present one so you can switch...?
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell christopher about ff1.5
[02:11] <cappiz> ok :S
[02:11] <Seveas> nick01, that usually means ext2 or et3, you can use cfdisk to mae sure
[02:11] <Robocision> SIS SI7012 and chip says Realtek
[02:11] <ortner> How do i delete a file?
[02:11] <christopher> is it true that one shouldnt do it because of all the extension and plugin headaches
[02:11] <Seveas> ortner, drag it to the trashbin
[02:11] <meshe> yanimax: does the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?
[02:11] <Seveas> (or the rm command)
[02:11] <_jason> ortner: right click > move to trash
[02:11] <nick01> Seveas, yeah- it's reiserfs
[02:11] <ortner> Seveas: via console. sorry
[02:12] <nick01> navarone, yup-I'll have 2 kernels
[02:12] <Seveas> ortner, rm
[02:12] <ortner> Seveas: thank you :)
[02:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell ortner about cli
[02:12] <coz> Is there a way to contact the art department for gnome?
[02:12] <Robocision> so I'm wonderin if there's a way to configure alsa to say soundblaster?
[02:12] <yanimax> meshe: no, it doesn't
[02:12] <navarone> nick01, ...okay...was worried you were gonna go off and have no protection whatsoever
[02:12] <UFO> Seveas: but cant really understand why they didnt build the distro to use debian repository and only for ubuntu related packages from their repo... probably security updates
[02:12] <meshe> yanimax: have a look at the file /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[02:12] <coz> Robocision, which sound blaster do you have? some are not compatible with breezy
[02:13] <Seveas> !tell UFO about debian
[02:13] <Robocision> audigy gamer
[02:13] <meshe> yanimax: what does it say for socket in the [server]  section?
[02:13] <Seveas> UFO, impossible, lots of packages differ in versions
[02:13] <coz> Robocision hold on I will look
[02:13] <Robocision> Thanks coz
[02:13] <Seveas> UFO, they're all source-compatible but Ubuntu often makes changes that don't go for debian (like ditchin python2.3 or having a bleeding edge X)
[02:14] <scam> alright is there any way to make a mouse load the same buttons each time you reboot?
[02:14] <scam> last reboot my back button was 6 and this time its 2
[02:14] <scam> and it only works correctly when its 6
[02:14] <Seveas> 'night all
[02:15] <UFO> Seveas: yes, offcourse. thats the main reason for ubuntu/kubuntu for me
[02:15] <Seveas> mv /proc/sef /dev/bed
[02:15] <Seveas> mv /proc/self /dev/bed
[02:15] <hyperactivecrond> gnite seveas
[02:15] <hyperactivecrond> echo seveas > /proc/sleeping
[02:15] <nick01> lol
[02:15] <yanimax> meshe: there's no [server]  section in the file
[02:15] <navarone> I am off too...take care folks
[02:16] <meshe> yanimax: that's a bit odd
[02:16] <meshe> yanimax: want me to pm you what should be there?
[02:16] <coz> Robocsion I am not finding specific referals to this card but if you go online and do a search you may get a few hits that can help
[02:17] <coz> sorry I cannot help more
[02:17] <yanimax> (meshe: you can check the file there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8672)
[02:17] <Robocision> thanks coz
 yes, sure
[02:17] <coz> Robocsision i am sure someon here may have had similar problems with their sound blaster
[02:17] <yanimax> meshe: btw, what does pm mean exactly?
[02:18] <meshe> yanimax: private message, but your file looks fine
[02:18] <Knowerrors> To anybody using FF 1.5, have you updated it, if so how?  (Im reading the wiki now and there are several methods listed.)
[02:18] <meshe> yanimax: ls /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
[02:18] <nick01> how do I install gcc and all the devel stuff ?
[02:18] <amphi> nick01: apt-get install build-essential
[02:18] <nick01> tks
[02:18] <IdleOne> Knowerrors:  foloow the wiki and use the moethod most comfortable for you
[02:19] <yanimax> meshe: the file exists when I do 'ls' on it
[02:19] <yanimax> meshe: yes, i'm ok for private messages
[02:19] <meshe> yanimax: and you still can't connect to the db?
 no, i still can't, always the 2002 error message
[02:20] <Aesop> Hmm, ok, so if I want to use Alien, I first configure and make the package, and then run Alien on the folder?
[02:20] <Aesop> ha D/ced even
[02:20] <rewt_> how do you launch the main menu?
[02:20] <amphi> rewt_: of what?
[02:21] <j2daosh> !mounting ntfs
[02:21] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, j2daosh
[02:21] <amphi> !ntfs
[02:21] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:21] <j2daosh> ahh
[02:21] <j2daosh> knew it was one of those
[02:22] <amphi> what, an evil proprietary filesystem? ;)
[02:22] <j2daosh> now what is the gnome art manager package called?
[02:22] <amphi> art manager?
[02:23] <j2daosh> yeah... where i can dl themes and shit
[02:23] <j2daosh> stuff!!
[02:23] <j2daosh> sorry
[02:23] <rewt_> but that doesnt work
[02:23] <amphi> oh, dunno - ask apt-cache I guess
[02:23] <j2daosh> !easysource
[02:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:23] <Hysty> j2daosh: themes?
[02:23] <rewt_> amphi, were you talking to me about apt-cache?
[02:24] <amphi> rewt_: no
[02:24] <Hysty> oh right I see you mentioned that already
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> !tell j2daosh about msgthebot
[02:24] <amphi> rewt_: what main menu are you talking about?
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> j2daosh: keep it clean.
[02:25] <Aesop> ls
[02:27] <scam> how do i make gdm not start when i reboot?
[02:27] <amphi> scam: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:27] <scam> thanks
[02:27] <frogzoo> scam: easiest way - install pkg 'bum' & disable the gdm startup
[02:27] <scam> what is bum?
[02:27] <frogzoo> bum = boot up manager
[02:28] <amphi> frogzoo: install a package to disable gdm? wtf?
[02:28] <scam> i dont want anything
[02:28] <j2daosh> hyper.. u gonna be ok? dont drink so much coffee
[02:28] <frogzoo> amphi: or read the manpage for update-rc.d ...
[02:28] <amphi> scam: you can always use update-rc.d to reinstate gdm if you want it again
[02:28] <j2daosh> Hysty, yeah... themes... for gnome desktop/applications
[02:28] <scam> amphi, thanks
[02:28] <amphi> frogzoo: which is short and simple
[02:28] <scam> i hardly use X11
[02:29] <scam> i network bsd boxes at work.. so gui is weird
[02:29] <malv> how do computer nerds spend valentines day?
[02:29] <scam> and i found a realyl strang thing
[02:29] <scam> when i use gdm to login my back button my mouse is 2 when i dont use gdm its button 6
[02:30] <amphi> scam: yeah, I use console mostly
[02:30] <scam> and it needs to be 6 to work correctly
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> j2daosh: watch it.
[02:30] <yanimax> meshe: are you still there ?
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> malv: alone :\
[02:30] <meshe> yanimax: yeah, didn't you get the pm?
[02:30] <malv> heh
[02:31] <malv> if you have a hand, you're never alone
 i got it, didn't you get my answer ?
[02:31] <scam> amphi, any idea why my mouse button is different only when i log in with gdm ?
[02:31] <meshe> yanimax: no, i didn't, is your nickname registered?
[02:32] <yanimax> meshe: no, it' not...
[02:32] <meshe> yanimax: you can't send private messages with an unregistered/unidentified nick
[02:32] <rewt_> amhi u been getting my messages?
[02:32] <malv> time for a valentines day fragfest: how true nerds spend valentines day
[02:32] <rewt_> *amphi....i dunno if im sending them right
[02:32] <j2daosh> watch what? i said sorry for the cussword and with the ubotu... i didn;t know how to do it in a message so just calm down... everything will be ok
[02:33] <amphi> scam: none at all ;)
[02:33] <scam> i think thats realyl weird
[02:34] <amphi> rewt_: no; a) please don't PM without asking, and b) you will need to register with nickserv to PM
[02:34] <rewt_> i am registered
[02:34] <amphi> rewt_: in general, it's better to talk in the channel
[02:34] <rewt_> does it not log you in automatically?
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> and if you need to pm, ask... iirc it's in the coc
[02:34] <yanimax> what's the command to register one's nickname ?
[02:34] <meshe> rewt_: nope, you need to identify
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> !tell yanimax about register
[02:35] <amphi> rewt_: /whois yourself
[02:35] <eipipuz> does anyone knows why I don't have a /dev/video0?
[02:35] <meshe> yanimax: /msg nickserv register password email
[02:35] <ahlich> anyone can help w nvidia driver...? im sure this must have been asked before, and yes i did try to find out before asking...
[02:35] <amphi> rewt_: you need to see a line "is identified to services"
[02:35] <amphi> !nv
[02:35] <ubotu> amphi: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <eipipuz> I modprobe spca5xx without errors...
[02:35] <amphi> !nvidia
[02:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell ahlich about binarydrivers
[02:35] <amphi> bah
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell amphi about msgthebot
[02:36] <j2daosh> ok... what option do i have to add to my ntfs for my nonroot account to access my newly mounted windows partition through the gdm? i thought it was just user, but that aint working
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> !tell j2daosh about ntfs
[02:36] <rewt_> how do i identify
[02:36] <amphi> j2daosh: no, there's some umask crap probably
[02:36] <ahlich> so the driver that apt get brings is no good?
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond>  rewt: /msg nickserv identify yourpasshere
[02:36] <amphi> rewt_: /msg nickersv help identify
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> ahlich: yes it is
[02:37] <ulrik> I need a tool to make an .iso out of a cd
[02:37] <amphi> ulrik: dd
[02:37] <ahlich> well does not work with my n6200
[02:37] <ulrik> amphi: dd? okay. Is there a Gnome tool for this?
[02:37] <rewt_> identify
[02:37] <rewt_> IDENTIFY
[02:37] <ulrik> rewt_: case doesn't matter
[02:37] <rewt_> nickserv IDENTIFY
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> rewt_: /msg nickserv identify
[02:37] <amphi> ulrik: no idea - dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso is not overly difficult
[02:38] <j2daosh> yeah i already looked at that hyper... didn't help none
[02:38] <ulrik> amphi: but it's still in the shell. I'll write a pygtk wrapper for it
[02:38] <amphi> rewt_: shouting at nickserv is not going to help ;)
[02:38] <amphi> ulrik: what on earth for?
[02:38] <j2daosh> thats where i got the ,user, idea from
[02:39] <ulrik> amphi: I don't feel confortable with the shell. Well, I do, but I liek to have a gui
[02:39] <amphi> ulrik: whatever floats your boat, I guess
[02:39] <rewt_> grr i dont remember my pw
[02:40] <ulrik> thanks
[02:40] <amphi> ulrik: I can't see that a gui could fail to be more clumsy than dd
[02:40] <Chris_Tucker> when using crontab -e how do you have a task run every weekday at 12pm? i know how to make it run every day of the week with 0 12 * * * taskapptorun but not how to restrict to weekdays
[02:41] <amphi> Chris_Tucker: man 5 crontab gives an example of running a command on weekdays
[02:41] <heatxsink> anyone in here know where I can find the divx5 codecs for dapper?
[02:41] <bigmoe> anyone knows how to brows through anonymous proxy
[02:42] <Kr0ntab> heya folks...
[02:43] <bimberi> Chris_Tucker: 0 12 * * 1-5    (man 5 crontab)
[02:44] <chriswilliams> hey
[02:44] <bimberi> ooh amphi was waaaaay quicker :)
[02:44] <chriswilliams> i need help
[02:44] <Chris_Tucker> amphi, bimberi thanks,
[02:44] <heatxsink> it seems that xine is all jacked up
[02:44] <chriswilliams> can some one help me
[02:44] <amphi> chriswilliams: not if your problem is a secret
[02:44] <william> how do i change my default media player to mplayer instead of totem?
[02:45] <Aesop> Hmm, anyone know of a good way to upgrade Firefox to 1.5?
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> !tell Aesop about firefox1.5
[02:45] <Aesop> Thanks
[02:45] <chriswilliams> i am using the live cd for power pc and when it loads and goes pass the logo it comes to a blank screen
[02:46] <rewt_> how do u change ur username?
[02:46] <amphi> chriswilliams: do other ppc live cds work on that box?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> rewt_: In what?
[02:46] <rewt_> irc
[02:46] <amphi> rewt_: /nick foo
[02:46] <christopher> anyone know how to get these "edit clock format" windows to dissappear?
[02:46] <amphi> chriswilliams: eg. the sysresccd.org iso
[02:46] <chriswilliams> no it boot and loads everything then a lien in the screen then blank screen
[02:47] <scam> is there a way to make an iso from a cdrom in linux?
[02:47] <ulrik> amphi: oops, guess what. Nautilus lets you make an iso
[02:47] <ulrik> scam: hey I'm just doing that
[02:47] <ulrik> scam: Right click on the cd on the desktop, choose copy cd
[02:47] <ulrik> scam: then choose to save as .ISO, not burn
[02:48] <ulrik> scam: this is in nautilus/GNOME
[02:48] <amphi> ulrik: cool, another wheel saved from reinvention ;)
[02:48] <tEoti> how do i register my name
[02:48] <scam> ulrik, sweet thanks
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> !register
[02:48] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[02:48] <scam> any way to do it in console
[02:48] <amphi> tEoti: /msg nickserv help
[02:48] <chriswilliams> so what do i do
[02:48] <amphi> scam: make an iso from a cd? yeah, dd
[02:48] <tyler_> i just created/saved a file that is readabl;e with gv.... how can i save this file in jpg format or any other format thats readle in windows?
[02:49] <ulrik> scam: ask amphi , I didn't like his console solution
[02:49] <ulrik> :-D
[02:49] <ulrik> dd if=/dev/hdc of=copy.iso it was
[02:49] <amphi> scam: dd if=/dev/whatever of=foo.iso [other options to taste]
[02:49] <scam> amphi, yeah didnt know dd would do it
[02:49] <amphi> scam: bs=$SOME_LARGISH_NUMBER helps for example
[02:49] <ulrik> what is bs?
[02:49] <christopher> does terminal have its own md5 sum checker as well?
[02:49] <amphi> ulrik: man dd
[02:49] <scam> bs = bullshit
[02:50] <scam> hehe
[02:50] <catchphrase> my system froze from something simple (installing Shockwave Flash through FireFox) and have to restart. Is there a way to figure out why?
[02:50] <amphi> scam: er, block size/buffer size I believe ;)
[02:50] <scam> amphi, yeah i know :)
[02:50] <amphi> catchphrase: beyond the fact that flash is evil? ;)
[02:50] <scam> falsh sucks
[02:50] <tEoti> alright i think im registered
[02:51] <scam> im kinda glad it doesnt work on 64 bit
[02:51] <catchphrase> amphi, well yeah besides that. but in order to use a website i had to install flash.
[02:51] <christopher> anyone familiar with the online poker room slike party poker, world poker tour, ultimate poker, pacific poker, etc...
[02:51] <catchphrase> amphi, i didn't expect just installing it and reloading the site would cause the entire machine to freeze solid (no mouse or kb response)
[02:51] <amphi> tEoti: yup, and identified to services
[02:52] <scam> i was reading something out flash player on 64 bit using something to emelate it
[02:52] <scam> or something
[02:52] <scam> anyone read anything about that
[02:52] <amphi> nope
[02:52] <tEoti> how do you launch the main menu?
[02:52] <IdleOne> !twm
[02:53] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[02:53] <scam> libflash-mozplugin
[02:53] <scam>  doesnt work  correctly on apps..
[02:53] <IdleOne> !tmw
[02:53] <ubotu> IdleOne: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:53] <frogzoo> tEoti: click on 'Applications' mebbe?
[02:53] <scam> it only works on pictures
[02:53] <amphi> tEoti: main menu of what?
[02:53] <tEoti> like where everything is... places system accesories
[02:53] <IdleOne> I need a light window manager any suggestions
[02:53] <IdleOne> ?
[02:53] <tEoti> i want to launch a main menu from a custom icon So I need to know the command or path or whatever it is that makes it pop up.
[02:53] <amphi> IdleOne: openbox is good
[02:53] <frogzoo> tEoti: by default, the menus are in the top lh corner
[02:53] <malv> what does iirc mean?
[02:53] <Kyral> If I Recall Correctly
[02:54] <scam> if i recal correctly
[02:54] <IdleOne> amphi:  i have a p2 233mhz
[02:54] <tEoti>  I thgought it was launch('gnome-panel-control --main-menu')
[02:54] <frogzoo> malv: iirc = if i recall correctly, (iirc)
[02:54] <malv> gotcha
[02:54] <amphi> malv: apt-get install bsdgames and use wtf
[02:54] <tEoti> but it wasnt
[02:54] <IdleOne> !openbox
[02:54] <ubotu> methinks openbox is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[02:54] <amphi> IdleOne: openbox should run fine on that - it's a better remimplementation of blackbox
[02:55] <malv> they need to have an irc expander for net lingo
[02:55] <IdleOne> amphi:  im checking it out thanks :)
[02:55] <amphi> IdleOne: 200KB binary
[02:55] <malv> everytime i see lol, it should write: "I found that to be very amusing"
[02:55] <amphi> malv: as I said, install wtf
[02:55] <amphi> malv: then, in a shell, you can do 'wtf is iirc' and it'll tell you
[02:55] <malv> nah, but an irc plugin
[02:56] <malv> that uses a database of net lingo
[02:56] <tEoti> anyone understand what im trying to do?
[02:56] <amphi> malv: you should be able to remember TLAs and ETLAs
[02:56] <scam> tuxracer
[02:56] <scam> is an awsome game
[02:56] <phiber_optic> how Do i run a .run file?
[02:56] <malv> yea, but acronyms bother me
[02:56] <malv> heh
[02:56] <amphi> tEoti: yes, but I have no idea how you would do it on gnome (or why you'd want to, but that is irrelevant)
[02:57] <malv> and everytime someone writes lol, i get angry
[02:57] <amphi> malv: lol stands for 'lamer on line' ;(
[02:57] <amphi> er, ;)
[02:57] <tEoti> amphi im using gdesklets and the gnome panel im using from there the lancher isnt launching the menu
[02:57] <mordof> ok, so im trying to install my nvidia drivers, and my kernal is different, so i have to re-compile it.. but it cant find kernel source files, i THINK i downloaded them but am not sure, i need help here
[02:57] <tEoti> so i need to fix it
[02:57] <amphi> tEoti: thankfully, I have never seen a 'desklet'
[02:58] <pinkpanther> what packages am I missing? ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[02:58] <pinkpanther> aborting...
[02:58] <pinkpanther> Aborted
[02:58] <tEoti> can anyne help?
[02:58] <mordof> this is frustrating
[02:59] <amphi> pinkpanther: what gave you that?
[02:59] <Kr0ntab> tEoti, yer trying to launch what...
[02:59] <bimberi> mordof: you might only need kernel headers, install them with 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:59] <pinkpanther> java -jar JAP.jar
[02:59] <bimberi> '
[02:59] <tEoti> the gnome applications menu
[02:59] <mordof> bimberi: aptitude or apt-get?
[03:00] <pinkpanther> something is odd about my java
[03:00] <bimberi> mordof: either (i prefer aptitude)
[03:00] <Kr0ntab> you mena you want it on your panel?
[03:00] <mordof> bimberi: is it possible to do that inside this? im running irc inside terminal
[03:00] <tEoti> kr0n no
[03:00] <Kr0ntab> or an icon on the desktop...
[03:00] <mordof> im not in X currently
[03:00] <tEoti> im using gDesklets
[03:00] <amphi> mordof: you can run apt-get in console - just switch to another VT
[03:01] <mordof> amphi: VT? how do i do that
[03:01] <bimberi> mordof: possibly - or you could opan another virtual tty with ctrl-alt-F2 (c-a-F1 to get back)
[03:01] <tEoti> and im using gnome panel in the gdesklets
[03:01] <mordof> ohhh, ok
[03:01] <tEoti> and the menu launcher command is fscked
[03:01] <bimberi> *open
[03:01] <mordof> bimberi: you said linux-header-$(uname -r)... i type that exactly?
[03:01] <tEoti> so  i needa change it
[03:02] <mordof> bimberi: just making sure so i dont screw anything up..
[03:02] <amphi> mordof: alt-f2 for example
[03:02] <christopher> hey do alot of you use "Desklets" or do you use another kind of similiar software?
[03:02] <bimberi> mordof: yes (it will replace with the output of the command 'uname -r')
[03:02] <mordof> k, brb
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> christopher: I have some gdesklets.
[03:02] <leif\> Can someone help me with some ubuntu on an ibook issues?
[03:02] <christopher> im trying to find some really cool ones
[03:02] <amphi> christopher: I use the venerable gkrellm or the 'moaning goat meter'
[03:02] <mordof> it says it couldnt find package...
[03:02] <christopher> what do they do
[03:02] <tEoti> well this is the command thats in the gnome panel that is not working
[03:03] <tEoti> launch('gnome-panel-control --main-menu')
[03:03] <mordof> gah! now what?
[03:03] <tEoti> launch('nautilus') <--- is working just fine
[03:03] <phiber_optic> In order to uninstall a software I can just delete it righyt?
[03:03] <christopher> and how do you guys get my name typed up that quick when responding to me
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic: apt-get remove packagename
[03:03] <mordof> bimberi: Couldn't find package linux-header-2.6.12-10-386
[03:03] <bimberi> mordof:  headers (plural)
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Hit 'ch' and then TAB.
[03:03] <mordof> ohh, k
[03:03] <_jason> christopher: chr<tab>
[03:04] <phiber_optic> tonyyarusso, the thing is Iam installing americas army and its a .run file.. I dont think apt-get remove would work
[03:04] <amphi> christopher: you can find mgm here: http://linuxmafia.com/mgm/index.html
[03:04] <mordof> bimberi: hurray! that worked, ok now to try the video drivers
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic: Ah, no.  For that probably removing the folder is sufficient, but I'm not entirely familiar with how it installs.
[03:04] <christopher> amphi, thanks
[03:05] <tEoti> i need this command fixed >.<
[03:05] <phiber_optic> tonyyarusso, it has its own installer
[03:05] <christopher> heres one more thing i couldnt get to work in GNOME
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> phiber_optic: I know that part; I meant what happens when you run that.
[03:06] <christopher> setting up my wireless internet adaptar
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> !tell christopher about wifi
[03:06] <phiber_optic> oh sorry tonyyarusso ;)
[03:06] <christopher> woohoo
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> do you have gnome-panel-control ?
[03:06] <mordof> bimberi: YES! tyvm! video card drivers installed as a success :D:D:D
[03:06] <phiber_optic> I hope by just deleting it works ;)
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> tEoti, ?
[03:06] <bimberi> mordof: great! :)
[03:06] <christopher> love this system
[03:06] <tEoti> yes kr0n
[03:06] <tEoti> ?
[03:06] <amphi> phiber_optic: apt-get remove [--purge]  package_name
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> do you have gnome-panel-control ?
[03:06] <mordof> bimberi: i wasn't aware you could do so much without X.. this is amazing
[03:06] <leif\> When I put my ibook into standby, and bring it back up, it goes through this "Waking up AirPort" thing, how do I get back to well.. anything but that?
[03:06] <Kr0ntab> its part of the openbox package
[03:06] <tEoti> i dont know?
[03:07] <Kr0ntab> type "which gnome-panel-control"
[03:07] <tEoti> i got ubuntu 5.10 install amd64
[03:07] <mordof> ok, how do i get out of this now?
[03:07] <bimberi> mordof: haha, well once upon a time there was only cli
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> amphi: p_o's isn't a package; installing from a self-extracting binary.
[03:07] <bimberi> mordof: your irc client?  /quit
[03:07] <patrick__> Guys, I just mounted a 2nd hardrive in my home directory. I now have a "lock" against it - i can't copy to it. Any ideas?
[03:07] <tEoti> kr)n where?
[03:07] <christopher> amphi,  mgm is just like the desklets software right?
[03:07] <mordof> bimberi: yeah.. thanks, ill be back in in a minute with x-chat
[03:07] <Kr0ntab> tEoti, it should return:   /usr/bin/gnome-panel-control
[03:07] <phiber_optic> amphi, but how will apt get know that Im installing armyops if its not in the reposotry
[03:07] <christopher> amphi,  or does it come installed with the features that go on the desktop
[03:07] <amphi> tonyyarusso: ah
[03:07] <tEoti> it ddnt return anything
[03:08] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[03:08] <Kr0ntab> if not.... install openbox:    sudo apt-get install openbox
[03:08] <snooze> hi people
[03:08] <amphi> christopher: mgm is a perl script
[03:08] <christopher> oh i dont know that programming language
[03:08] <snooze> why do the standard ubuntu packages not support twinview? any suggestions?
[03:08] <amphi> christopher: you don't have to run it
[03:09] <christopher> i know im just looking for some really cool desktop thingy mabobs
[03:09] <snooze> now to my main problem: my twinview is "twisted" somehow, meaning my machine interprets the primary and secondary screen vice-versa. can i just set the RightOf to LeftOf?
[03:09] <amphi> christopher: but it needs various packages installed to run, you might be better off with a packaged system monitor like gkrellm
[03:09] <christopher> i had the glass icons before which i liked and theres that cool starter bar.. but what i really want is a cool side bar with computer info, temp, time, date etc
[03:09] <nmm> how do i install a c compiler
[03:10] <snooze> christopher: what are mamobs?
[03:10] <snooze> or mabobs?
[03:10] <Kyral> nmm: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:10] <_jason> nmm: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:10] <patrick__> I just mounted a 2nd hardrive in my home directory. I now have a "lock" against it - i can't copy to it. Any ideas?
[03:10] <snooze> Kyral: what is build-essential?
[03:10] <_jason> Kyral: you type quite fast :o
[03:10] <nmm> ok
[03:10] <snooze> Kyral: for what do i need it?
[03:10] <pinkpanther> I still can't figure out why my java won't compile
[03:10] <christopher> mabobs
[03:10] <pinkpanther> ge.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[03:10] <christopher> like majigs
[03:10] <elkbuntu> snooze, it will let you compile things
[03:11] <Kyral> snooze: Its the essential things for compiling (sans actual coding know-how)
[03:11] <christopher> i didnt know the exact term to refernce them so i said that so that maybe you will know that lol
[03:11] <snooze> elkbuntu, Kyral: so i should install it as one of the first things?
[03:11] <phiber_optic> amphi, but how will apt get know that Im installing armyops if its not in the reposotry
[03:11] <bigmoe> anyone here knows how fuse works
[03:11] <amphi> pinkpanther: some file creation is failing, looks like; do you have write permission?
[03:11] <Kyral> phiber_optic: it won't
[03:11] <elkbuntu> snooze, it will be useful lots of times, so yes
[03:11] <amphi> phiber_optic: it won't
[03:11] <wenderlan> como fao pra entra em uma lista em portugues?
[03:11] <Kyral> phiber_optic: this is why most things install to /usr/locla
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> !pt
[03:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:11] <Kyral> phiber_optic: Apt won't install there
[03:11] <wenderlan> tem algun brasileiro??
[03:11] <_jason> wenderlan: escreve assim: /join #ubuntu-pt
[03:12] <bigmoe> i donot know which partition i should mount
[03:12] <amphi> !tell wenderlan about br
[03:12] <snooze> elkbuntu, Kyral: i just built some nice bash scripts (2) i execute after installing a fresh ubuntu. they contain things like setting up apt, locales and stuff, i think i will just add it to my apt-get line.
[03:12] <snooze> thanks.
[03:12] <pinkpanther> -rw-r--r--   1 pinkpanther pinkpanther 2451322 2006-02-14 20:11 JAP.jar
[03:12] <phiber_optic> oohh ok so by typing sudo apt-get remove armyops it will go to the /usr/local folder and find this folder and delte it?
[03:12] <elkbuntu> snooze it will be on the cd, so have that handy
[03:12] <Kyral> phiber_optic: nope
[03:12] <nick01> anybody here good at compiling kernels ? I get a kernel panic- unable to mount root fs on unknown block :(
[03:12] <Kyral> phiber_optic: but you can just delete the /usr/local dir ;P
[03:13] <snooze> elkbuntu: i install via net anyways. getting out that cd entry of sources.list is one of the first things i do after a fresh install.
[03:13] <Kyral> nick01: prolly means you forgot to compile in support for the FS
[03:13] <phiber_optic> is it the same as doing sudo apt-get remove [--purge]  armyops?
[03:13] <amphi> nick01: you have support for your ide chipset and / fs built in to the kernel? (not modules)
[03:13] <snooze> elkbuntu: and i think i am right with doint it that way.
[03:13] <snooze> -t
[03:13] <nick01> Kyral, I compiled reiserfs support in the kernel
[03:13] <snooze> mh i don't like xchat :)
[03:13] <christopher> tonyyarusso, what else do you use besides desklets.. or do you use them for the majority?
[03:13] <Kyral> nick01: Dunno then lol
[03:13] <amphi> nick01: and ide support?
[03:13] <nick01> amphi, I'll look
[03:13] <Kyral> Personally I compile in everything, then take away until something breaks :P
[03:14] <amphi> snooze: irssi
[03:14] <Kyral> Irssi ++
[03:14] <elkbuntu> snooze nothing wrong with either way
[03:14] <phiber_optic> amphi, is it the same as doing sudo apt-get remove [--purge]  armyops?
[03:14] <Pablo> I need to run a command before x starts everytime "915resolution 3c 1400 1050" how would I do this?
[03:14] <snooze> amphi: can't install it because my apt package database is locked right now because i install big stuff :)
[03:14] <snooze> but thank you :)
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> christopher: I have 4 of those (ext. IP, POP mailbox watcher, countdown timer, and uptime), and have CPU, mem, and disk writing info from the Gnome panel functionality.
[03:14] <amphi> phiber_optic: you can't do that if it wasn't installed from an ubuntu package
[03:14] <Kyral> Pablo: try adding it to your .xinitrc
[03:14] <airreson> :)
[03:14] <phiber_optic> ohh ok
[03:14] <nick01> amphi, in what section in menuconfig ?
[03:14] <bigmoe> anyone here knows how fuse works
[03:14] <Pablo> ok
[03:14] <airreson> hi can anyone help me with my sound
[03:14] <airreson> it isnt working
[03:14] <frogzoo> !sound
[03:14] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:14] <snooze> airreson: propably, what's the matter?
[03:15] <snooze> oh, nice faq bot :)
[03:15] <amphi> nick01: device drivers somewhere - use / to search
[03:15] <christopher> oh ok i need to look into the GNOME panel stuff then and locate that
[03:15] <snooze> cool that is.
[03:15] <airreson> snooze,  my sound card isnt working, and its worked before i had ubuntu, i know its my thinkpad doing it its just i tried the help for this model and it wont work
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> christopher: Right-clivk, add to panel.
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> s/v/c
[03:15] <snooze> airreson: maybe a sound daemon is stealing your single plex soundcard. did you try setting up your mp3 player to use ALSA?
[03:16] <nick01> amphi, via82cxxx chipset support ?
[03:16] <frogzoo> airreson: what does /var/log/messages say? does it pick up the card?
[03:16] <airreson> snooze,  mp3 player? i dont got one o_o
[03:16] <Pablo> Kyral, where is this .xinitrc?
[03:16] <sizzam> can anyone who uses 'denyhost' tell me how they got the daemon to run at boot time?
[03:16] <Kyral> Pablo: should be in ~/.xinitrc
[03:16] <airreson> snooze,  how can i set it
[03:16] <snooze> airreson: hm, i guess it's one of the first things you will want to do to test sound