[00:49] <em> valorie: i do lock it. I lock it and lock all the widgets and then it gets unlocked somehow on its own power.
[00:50] <valorie> ooo
[00:50] <valorie> I wonder if you have perhaps messed up permissions somewhere in your ~/
[00:51] <em> valorie: that would be intriguing. Do you think my troubles could result from having installed Kubuntu on a Toshiba laptop without ever changing any EFI settings at all in the BIOS?
[00:52] <valorie> you can easily check, and regain correct permissions by chown -R username /home/username/
[00:52] <valorie> well
[00:52] <valorie> !efi
[00:52] <valorie> the above is more than I know about that
[00:53] <valorie> this would not be bios stuff, but perhaps using sudo in a gui application, or so
[00:53] <valorie> rather than kdesudo
[00:53] <em> valorie: also i don't know if this could be related but whenever I start Kubuntu before it gets to the GUI I see a black screen and at the top it says something to the effect of "Master Control Interupt Lied (SDE)!
[00:53] <valorie> hmmm
[00:53] <valorie> have you googled that?
[00:54] <em> yes
[00:54] <valorie> sounds like some systemd stuff
[00:54] <em> It was a little confusing. It didn't sound like it was vital
[00:54] <valorie> again, I doubt that is connected
[00:54] <em> it seemed like it might have to do with the screen or something.
[00:54] <valorie> as long as you get your gui, probably not important
[00:55] <em> valorie: another hypothesis -- This laptop has a touch screen (in my opinion that is worthless and i never use it) but I wonder if possibly it gets 'ghost sensations' when im not using it which makes it think that a finger is pushing stuff around and choosing options.
[00:55] <valorie> just try the chown
[00:55] <valorie> it can't hurt
[00:55] <em> okay i will.
[00:55] <em> sure.
[00:55] <valorie> and if it takes awhile.... you needed it
[00:56] <valorie> oh, put a * at the end
[00:56] <valorie> chown -R username /home/username/*
[00:56] <valorie> that will check the ownership of all files in your home
[00:56] <valorie> of course use your own username
[00:57] <valorie> unless your user is username
[00:57] <em> valorie: done.
[00:57] <em> hehe yeah my username is em :)
[00:57] <valorie> ok, that was quick
[00:57] <valorie> so probably not needed
[00:57] <valorie> I guess I would advise asking in #plasma then
[00:58] <valorie> I've never seen junk like that appearing
[00:59] <valorie> woops, dinner time
[07:07] <vincent42> hi all, in kubuntu 14.04 , wher is the "file size view" in konqueror or dolpin ? I can't seem to find it , is that a separate package ?
[07:07] <vincent42> something displaying a graphical chart of file sizes
[07:07] <vincent42> similar to windirstat on windoz
[07:08] <hateball> vincent42: sudo apt-get install kdirstat
[07:08] <vincent42> thanks
[07:09] <vincent42> hmmm I did a pkill dolphin to restart it
[07:09] <vincent42> my kde sidebar freezed
[07:09] <vincent42> ah it unfreezed :)
[07:10] <vincent42> seems killing dolphin was not such a great idea
[07:10] <valorie> I like filelight
[07:10] <valorie> but I don't think it works in dolphin
[07:11] <valorie> it's nifty though
[07:11] <vincent42> hmmm, is there a way to restart dolphgin after it's been killed ?
[07:12] <valorie> krunner won't do it?
[07:13] <valorie> krunner=alt+f2
[07:13] <vincent42> it 's very slow
[07:13] <vincent42> but it seems to come back after a long time
[07:13] <vincent42> one of dolphin window is very slow
[07:14] <valorie> another way to start it is in a konsole, and watch the output
[07:14] <vincent42> ok so kdirstat is not visible in dolphin ?
[07:14] <vincent42> actually I started it from the console , but it would stay stuck, not even open a window
[07:15] <valorie> control escape might give you more information
[07:15] <vincent42> it seems klauncher had some problem
[07:15] <vincent42> it got respawned
[07:16] <vincent42> anyway seems to be working back now
[07:16] <vincent42> hmm, konqueror is also slow to start
[07:17] <vincent42> kdeinit4: Shutting down running client.
[07:17] <vincent42> klauncher(5602) kdemain: Waiting for already running klauncher to exit.
[07:21] <vincent42> argl
[07:21] <vincent42> why does it do that
[07:45] <noaXess> morning.. does anybody use backports landing ppa?
[07:45] <noaXess> or know when the packes are moved to backports ppa?
[07:46] <vincent42> hateball: kdirstat does it display the radial map ?
[07:47] <vincent42> what I waslooking for was the view with some rectangles
[07:47] <vincent42> with area proportionnal to file size
[07:47] <vincent42> I only have a "radial map" view now
[07:55] <valorie> noaXess: I tested it, then removed it
[07:55] <valorie> but I didn't purge the packages, because they work well
[07:55] <noaXess> okey..
[07:56] <noaXess> but.. how is timeline that they move packages from landing to backports?
[07:56] <valorie> they haven't had time to do that yet, sorry
[07:56] <valorie> got a deadline for xenial the LTS to meet first
[08:20] <noaXess> valorie: are you a dev for kubuntu?
[08:28] <valorie> noaXess: I'm a council member
[08:29] <valorie> not a coder or packager, no
[08:29] <noaXess> okey.. fine ;) cool
[09:06] <Kardi> how do you guys learn about linux aside from using search engines and IRC?
[09:06] <lordievader> Experimenting?
[09:07] <valorie> Kardi: what part of linux are you interested in?
[09:07] <Kardi> general use
[09:07] <dhanraj> i built blender from source and it removed all gui packages, so i can only use it through terminal. does anybody know a fix
[09:08] <valorie> it helps to follow your interests, and choose a project that will challenge you some
[09:08] <valorie> !info blender
[09:08] <valorie> hmmm, packaged from git, not a release
[09:10] <dhanraj> i installed plasma-desktop but still it shows only home screen nothing else
[09:10] <dhanraj> plus i have to manually use startx to launch it
[09:14] <hateball> dhanraj: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, that should pull in everything needed for a kubuntu experience
[09:14] <dhanraj> ohk thanks i will try
[09:14] <hateball> It will install sddm etc
[09:14] <hateball> dhanraj: Did you install from a minimal installer?
[09:15] <dhanraj> no
[09:15] <afx237> does anyone know if the current versions of kde/plasma etc in the daily build of 16.04 is what will be in the stable release?  i heard there was a freeze in the last couple of days, but not sure if it applies to kde
[09:18] <valorie> afx237: we filed FFE paperwork to get our recent stuff into the archive
[09:18] <valorie> final freeze is friday
[09:18] <valorie> or so
[09:18] <afx237> ah, so  it will change then?
[09:21] <Kardi> I'm wondering if there is a game based on using linux terminal commands? so I can get familiar with using linux
[09:21] <valorie> I'm not sure how that system works
[09:21] <valorie> oooo, I think there is something in KDE games
[09:22] <afx237> Kardi: here's a challenging one: http://qntm.org/suicide
[09:22] <valorie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/337300/are-there-any-games-which-can-train-people-to-learn-terminal-commands mentions whatis
[09:23] <valorie> which sounds cool
[09:23] <Kardi> Cool
[09:23] <afx237> Kardi: just in case you don't realise, it wipes all your files if you type anything wrong, fun eh
[09:52] <andybrine> Hi Everyone
[09:52] <Smurphy> jo
[09:53] <andybrine> I wonder if anyone can help. I just installed plasma desktop from ubuntu 15.10 and everything is working but the themes dont
[09:53] <andybrine> I have default icons and windows decorations
[09:54] <andybrine> does anyone know how to fix that?
[09:57] <andybrine> any support would be apprecated
[09:59] <clivejo> andybrine: how did you install it?
[10:00] <andybrine> I installed this repo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable
[10:00] <andybrine> and then run dist-upgrade
[10:01] <andybrine> This then installed the whole desktop
[10:04] <andybrine> when I update themes, it doesnt change anything
[10:07] <clivejo> where did you get instructions to use kubuntu-ci ppa?!?
[10:08] <clivejo> you need to remove and purge that PPA and install using "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:08] <andybrine> I used this guide: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kde-plasma-plasma-5-4/
[10:08] <andybrine> ok Iwill do that now
[10:09] <andybrine> so just using this with no extra repos should be fine?
[10:10] <clivejo> have you universe enabled?
[10:10] <andybrine> yes, I think so. I will check
[10:10] <andybrine> im just purging that repo at the moment
[10:11] <clivejo> kubuntu-ci is our continuous integration
[10:12] <andybrine> oh ok
[10:12] <andybrine> so it can cause problems when upgrading
[10:13] <clivejo> well CI is mostly for testing/devel
[10:13] <andybrine> I am likely to have conflicts with gnome or unity when installing kubuntu
[10:13] <clivejo> you shouldnt do
[10:13] <andybrine> thanks, thats good to know
[10:13] <clivejo> kubuntu-desktop should pull in the required packages
[10:14] <clivejo> you do need to use the sddm login manager for kubuntu
[10:14] <andybrine> I think there was an error when I installed it
[10:14] <andybrine> is there a command to switch to that
[10:14] <andybrine> when I ran it again, there were no errors
[10:15] <clivejo> when you install the meta package it should ask you which display manager you want to use
[10:16] <andybrine> ok, I will give it another go
[10:17] <clivejo> kubuntu-desktop is a meta package which should install all the necessary packages to use KDE on Ubuntu
[10:18] <andybrine> I think there was an error somewhere which could have caused my problems
[10:18] <andybrine> I cant remember what it was though
[10:18] <andybrine> the latest kde looks awesome though
[10:19]  * clivejo nods
[10:20] <clivejo> what did you use before?
[10:20] <andybrine> im using gnome shell at the moment
[10:20] <andybrine> and love it, but i wanted a change
[10:21] <andybrine> not used kde for about 5 years
[10:21] <clivejo> Its come on a lot!
[10:21] <andybrine> yea, it looks great
[10:21] <clivejo> andybrine: do you like testing software?
[10:21] <andybrine> I will brb, just going to reboot
[10:21] <andybrine> not really
[10:21] <andybrine> I need reliability
[10:24] <andybrine> right, im back
[10:24] <clivejo> how did it go?
[10:25] <andybrine> not to install it without the extra repo
[10:25] <andybrine> not installed it yet
[10:26] <andybrine> So you say I need the universe repo enabled?
[10:27] <clivejo> !info kubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <clivejo> yup universe
[10:27] <andybrine> Ok, I will check that
[10:31] <floown> hello
[10:32] <floown> To convert a movie (avi) to mkv, what can I use in Kubuntu ? (plasma application)
[10:33] <Smurphy> floown: handbrake
[10:33] <floown> thx
[10:39] <andybrine> clivejo I dont think I have the installed, but are they not installed by default?
[10:39] <andybrine> actually, they are installed
[10:40] <_shaun_> hi guys can u tell me what collate is about
[10:41] <andybrine> Here is my error: Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:41] <andybrine>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[10:41] <andybrine> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:41] <andybrine> apologies for pasting it here
[10:54] <andybrine> clivejo: I have installed it but have missing icons and im unable to change my windows decorations
[10:56] <clivejo> now add the backports PPA
[10:56] <clivejo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[10:56] <clivejo> do a full upgrade
[10:56] <clivejo> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
[10:57] <clivejo> did you PPA purge the kubuntu-ci?
[10:57] <andybrine> yea, I purged that one and installed kubuntu
[10:58] <clivejo> sounds like you might be still using packages from the kubuntu-ci
[10:58] <clivejo> dunno why people write articles about using that!
[10:58] <andybrine> yea, its not the best idea
[10:59] <andybrine> the repo you just sent me, is that a development one?
[10:59] <andybrine> also how do I completely purge the cli repo
[11:00] <clivejo> I would use ppa-purge
[11:01] <andybrine> ok
[11:02] <andybrine> it look like its running ok. Just running the basic themes and icons which im unable to change at the moment
[11:03] <andybrine> as im running the update some icons are appering
[11:05] <clivejo> I reckon you have some broken packages installed by the kubuntu-ci ppa
[11:06] <clivejo> need to purge them and get the working version from the main repo or the backports
[11:06] <andybrine> when I purge that ppa is says: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: kubuntu-ci stable
[11:08] <clivejo> you would probably need to add it again, do an apt-get update and then ppa-purge
[11:08] <andybrine> ok, I will do that
[11:10] <clivejo> andybrine: its not normally so difficult!
[11:11] <andybrine> no thats what I thought. Thats why I was wondering if there were conflicts with the install
[11:20] <andybrine> I still have lots of missing icons
[11:23] <andybrine> becoming a bit of a joke really. It should be simple to install kubuntu
[11:23] <hateball> It is. But messing about PPAs, that's on yourself.
[11:25] <andybrine> I have purged the PPA now and removed the files
[11:25] <andybrine> of the associated packages
[11:31] <andybrine> alrighty
[11:31] <andybrine> I think its all working now
[11:32] <clivejo> :)
[11:32] <andybrine> I think there was a missing package
[11:33] <clivejo> probably
[11:34] <andybrine> thanks for your help clivejo
[11:34] <clivejo> no problem
[11:34] <clivejo> hope you get on well with it
[11:36] <andybrine> actually icons are still not quite right lol
[11:36] <andybrine> I dolphin my folder icons are different
[11:37] <clivejo> different, how so?
[11:37] <andybrine> some are showing up correctly and others arent
[11:38] <andybrine> actually its Documents, Downloads and Music ect that are one icon theme and the other folders are another
[11:39] <clivejo> have you tried changing the theme?
[11:40] <andybrine> yea, thats what im doing now
[12:09] <lenswipee> hi having problems installing kubuntu on my laptop. I created a bootable USB using netbootin, and on boot i select 'start kubuntu'. It then loads a blue splash screen and that is it. help please
[12:10] <soee> what version are you trying to install ?
[12:11] <lenswipee> the LTS version
[12:11] <soee> 14.04 ?
[12:12] <lenswipee> yes
[12:12] <lenswipee> the current LTS
[12:13] <Smurphy> hit ESC as soon as the splash-screen shows up., it will show you what is happening under the hood. We need that to be able to help.
[12:13] <soee> lenswipee: i know i shouldn't say that here on support channel but maybe install 16.04 (it is like in beta now) and will be released in 1,5 month and it is LTS
[12:14] <lenswipee> im guessing it's a nvidia driver issue but i will hit esc to see thanks!
[12:14] <soee> and i had not a sigle problem with it for a long time
[12:17] <lenswipee> i hit esc and i see lot of [ok] but its fast so and still ends up loading the GUI. doesn't seem to stay in terminal.
[12:18] <hateball> !nomodeset| lenswipee
[12:19] <lenswipee> thanks ill read it now.
[12:23] <lenswipee> im confused after reading that how i access where i can edit
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:48] <lenswipee> how to edit grub to set nomodeset? when i boot via usb using netbootin i see the netbootin menu where i can select 'start kbuntu'. I can esc into terminal but it will always end up switching over to GUI at the end and it hangs. help needed urgently
[12:49] <soee> BluesKaj: ^
[12:56] <chr1s> lenswipee: I don't know if kubuntu compiles their kernel with interactive support but if they do then hitting i during the boot phase should allow you to choose which services start
[12:57] <lenswipee> hit 'i'?
[12:57] <chr1s> yep
[12:57] <chr1s> for interactive
[12:57] <chr1s> worth a try
[12:58] <lenswipee> ill try that now. thanks
[12:58] <chr1s> good luck
[12:59] <lenswipee> chr1s: with usb stick in?
[13:01] <lenswipee> didn't work
[13:01] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[13:01] <lenswipee> how to edit grub when kbuntu is not even installed yet
[13:02] <lenswipee> BluesKaj: i can't install kubuntu. it hangs.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, yes, that presents adifficulty
[13:03] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, don't use unetbootin , IME it fails 50% of the time, dd the image to your usb stick
[13:03] <hateball> lenswipee: you should be able to edit the bootline even if using unetbootin
[13:03] <chr1s> lenswipee: you're trying to install from a usb stick?
[13:03] <lenswipee> yes from usbstick
[13:04] <hateball> lenswipee: (press tab to edit options) or something it should say on the menu
[13:04] <lenswipee> on boot i see netbootin menu
[13:04] <sithlord48> do you have another usb stick ?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> then you won't habe grub to work with will you
[13:04] <BluesKaj> have
[13:04] <lenswipee> hateball: i think you are on to something with the tab
[13:05] <lenswipee> when i hit tab i get into terminal
[13:05] <lenswipee> terminal-like anyway
[13:05] <lenswipee> what i do there?
[13:05] <hateball> then you edit the bootline according to the instructions
[13:05] <sithlord48> lenswipee:  does the machine have an os on it  already?
[13:05] <hateball> !nomodeset
[13:06] <hateball> lenswipee: you see the line with lots of text. just backpspace away "quiet splash" and type in "nomodeset"
[13:06] <chr1s> lenswipee: what does your "terminal" look like? What can you see on the screen
[13:06] <lenswipee> sithlord48: the machine already has ubuntu knome installed on it where i already have set nomodeset but on installing kubuntu over it seems to still hang
[13:07] <sithlord48> lenswipee:  if this install using no modeset doesn't work try remaking your stick using the dd command
[13:07] <lenswipee> hateball: ill try that now.
[13:07] <lenswipee> ok sithlord48
[13:07] <sithlord48> lenswipee:  also im a bit confused can you get to the live desktop/ installer or its hanging before that ?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, unetbootin sucks IMO , use dd to make your iso image bootable
[13:07] <hateball> I fail to see how reimaging the stick would solve problems with a GPU driver...
[13:08] <hateball> ugh, go ahead then
[13:08] <BluesKaj> it's not going to boot with no modeset either
[13:08] <BluesKaj> it's a stick
[13:09] <sithlord48> i have had no luck w/ unetbootin myself its never worked for me when i have tried it
[13:10] <lenswipee> sithlord48: i can't get to the live desktop/installer.
[13:10] <lenswipee> when i hit tab
[13:10] <sithlord48> ok then try with nomodeset as a boot param  if that don't work then remake the stick
[13:11] <lenswipee> i no longer see text about quiet splash as i already edited grub on existing ubuntu knome i think. i saw it previously to that
[13:11] <lenswipee> but i typed in nomodeset at the end and hit enter then a whole bunch of text scrolled down
[13:11] <lenswipee> it then ends with this:
[13:12] <lenswipee> (initramfs)
[13:12] <lenswipee> now i can text stuff and that is it
[13:12] <lenswipee> no more loading
[13:13] <BluesKaj> nomodeset won't make any differnce in booting a usb stick afaik , if I'm wrong some please explain how that can work
[13:13] <sithlord48> i would remake the stick and check it to be sure
[13:13] <chr1s> lenswippe: do you have a login prompt or something or has it produced some error message like a kernel panic?
[13:14] <sithlord48> check your isos md5 bad downloads do happen and if you still have prolems after remaking check the stick using the check disc entry on the menu
[13:15] <lenswipee> chr1s: no login prompt as i'm trying to install kubuntu from usb stick. So far it boots to netbootin menu and i select 'start kubuntu' then it hangs on a blue splash screen GUI. if i hit esc before the gui i get a list of text [ok] then it switches to gui and hangs.
[13:16] <lenswipee> ill check md5 of the iso file tomorrow
[13:16] <lenswipee> then try again
[13:16] <lenswipee> failing that ill do the dd thing someone mentioned
[13:17] <chr1s> lenswipee: can you get to a console once it hangs? Trying pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[13:17] <chr1s> maybe it's only X that's stuck
[13:17] <lenswipee> ill try that now chr1s
[13:21] <lenswipee> yes that worked
[13:21] <lenswipee> i'm in console
[13:21] <lenswipee> chr1s: what can be done here?
[13:21] <sithlord48> lenswipee:  what is your video card?
[13:22] <chr1s> cool, so now we can try to work out why your X doesn't start
[13:22] <chr1s> can you log in on the console
[13:23] <lenswipee> log in?
[13:23] <lenswipee> how to log into something that hasnt completely installed?
[13:24] <sithlord48> user name is kubuntu iirc
[13:25] <chr1s> default for ubuntu is username: ubuntu with no password (just hit enter), maybe the same for kubuntu?
[13:25] <lenswipee> all i see is kubuntu@kubuntu~
[13:25] <sithlord48> so your are loged in
[13:25] <chr1s> sounds like you logged in then lenswipee
[13:25] <sithlord48> what version are you trying to install ?
[13:26] <lenswipee> the 14.X LTS
[13:27] <lenswipee> when i do 'ls' i see 'desktop'
[13:27] <chr1s> i would be tempted to kill X if it is running and then to startx and see what output comes on the commandline as it starts up (switch back using Ctrl+Alt+F1 again), it should tell you what modules it is loading
[13:27] <sithlord48> lets first kill the xserver .. im not sure what DM the live is using we will try to stop light dm
[13:27] <chr1s> and hopefully give some indication of where it's failing
[13:28] <sithlord48> use the command   sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[13:28] <chr1s> just kill -9 X :)
[13:28] <sithlord48> i think kubuntu is also the password if you need it
[13:28] <sithlord48> or that
[13:28] <chr1s> less graceful but it's already broken
[13:29] <lenswipee> so 'kill -9 x'
[13:29] <sithlord48> X
[13:29] <chr1s> capital X
[13:29] <lenswipee> ok
[13:29] <chr1s> do it again and make sure it gives an error message
[13:30] <chr1s> it means you really killed X :)
[13:30] <lenswipee> it says thisL
[13:30] <lenswipee> -bash kill X arguments must be present
[13:30] <lenswipee> something like that
[13:31] <chr1s> try killall -9 X
[13:31] <chr1s> sorry
[13:31] <chr1s> kill is expecting a PID :)
[13:32] <lenswipee> X no prcoess found
[13:32] <chr1s> good
[13:32] <chr1s> X is dead :)
[13:32] <lenswipee> ok no what? :)
[13:32] <lenswipee> now
[13:32] <chr1s> sithlord48, what do you want to do next? I'd try starting X and see where it hangs but maybe you have some other idea?
[13:33] <sithlord48> startx
[13:33] <chr1s> good plan, i like it :)
[13:34] <lacika> Hi everyone !
[13:35] <chr1s> lenswipee: when it hangs switch back to the console again with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and tell us what it says on the console
[13:35] <sithlord48> it should say something like "i don't wanna do it " but less directly
[13:35] <lacika> I am long time user of kubuntu. After upgrade to 15.04 I must return to 14.04, because I found it unusable ...
[13:36] <chr1s> afk for a bit but sithlord has it under control i think :) If you're still stuck when i'm back i'll try to help some more
[13:36] <sithlord48> lacika:  do yo uhave a seperate /home partition?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> 15.04 is no longer supported , lacika
[13:36] <lenswipee> about 'startx'
[13:37] <lenswipee> it now loads the desktop GUI
[13:37] <sithlord48> tada
[13:37] <sithlord48> you should be able to install now
[13:37] <BluesKaj> yay!
[13:37] <lenswipee> seems like a live play not an install
[13:37] <BluesKaj> i still desdpise unetbootin :-)
[13:37] <lacika> the question is: Is it possible to install Kubuntu 15.10 with look&feel (icons, transparency ... etc.) the same as on 14.04 ?
[13:37] <sithlord48> thats fine there should be a install kubuntu icon in the folder widget
[13:38] <sithlord48> lacika: sorta
[13:38] <sithlord48> lacika: you can use oxygen widget them and some other stuff but not all
[13:38] <BluesKaj> lacika, as you were asked before , do you have separate / and /home partitions?
[13:38] <lacika> I really hate transparency and strange (for me idiotic new look&feel)
[13:39] <lacika> sure, I have them :)
[13:39] <sithlord48> im using breeze dark and i have less transparency then i had on plasma4
[13:39] <sithlord48> if you ahve a seperate /home you can just instlal 14.04 and don't format your /home
[13:39] <lacika> The best for me is to disable transparency completely 1
[13:40] <BluesKaj> then just install 15.10 to / using the manual partitioning in ubiquity and set the mountpoint for /home and continue
[13:40] <BluesKaj> lacika,^
[13:40] <lacika> I do not need "effects" and all thic "modern" stupid bullshit
[13:41] <sithlord48> you can turn them off
[13:41] <sithlord48> or better yet just disable the ones you don't like since you generally get better proformance w/ desktop effects on
[13:41] <lacika> ok, i tried it on 15.04, but I was not happy anyway ...
[13:41] <BluesKaj> that breeze theme isn't my cuppa ntea
[13:41] <lenswipee> where i find the install icon?
[13:42] <sithlord48> package manager? or get new stuff
[13:42] <BluesKaj> look in the kmenu lenswipee
[13:42] <sithlord48> i don't care for the flatness
[13:42] <sithlord48> honestsly
[13:42] <lacika> i.e. I like to have it the same as 14.04, but upgrade let say to comming 16.04
[13:43] <sithlord48> depending ont he version of kf5 in 15.10 get new stuff might be broken for somethings
[13:43] <sithlord48> and plasma5 it will be getting support for following the color scheme of the widgets soon
[13:44] <lenswipee> BluesKaj: ok
[13:46] <lenswipee> when i double click on the install icon a smaller icon starts bounching up and down and my usbstick starts to flash for a while then stops.
[13:46] <lenswipee> :(
[13:47] <lenswipee> no fun installing kubuntu
[13:54] <newbie_> Good morning!
[13:54] <chr1s> lenswipee: open a virtual console and launch whatever the icon starts from there and see if there is some useful error message
[13:54] <chr1s> congrats on getting a GUI using "magic" :)
[13:55] <chr1s> no idea why it runs now
[13:55] <newbie_> anyone can help me with the upgrade from kmail 5.02 to 5.1 in kubuntu 5.10?
[13:56] <newbie_> :)
[13:58] <lenswipee> chr1s: virtual console?
[13:58] <lenswipee> chr1s: i'm a noob
[13:58] <lenswipee> chr1s: i noticed there is an error regarding needing properity drivers for nvidia
[13:59] <lenswipee> chr1s: but install icon fails
[14:04] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, most nvidia gpus will run fine with the default nouveau driver, so I still think there's a flaw in the image you have on the usb.
[14:04] <chr1s> lenswipee: use the KDE menu and start Terminal
[14:05] <lenswipee> and
[14:05] <chr1s> K > Applications > System Tools > Terminal (Konsole)
[14:05] <lenswipee> and
[14:05] <BluesKaj> that's not going fix anything if the image is corrupted , that's all I have to say
[14:06] <chr1s> what do you get when you do "pwd"
[14:06] <lenswipee> BluesKaj: i'll keep that in mind
[14:06] <chr1s> in the Terminal program
[14:08] <lenswipee> im starting startx again. bear with me.
[14:09] <lenswipee> it says /home/kubuntu
[14:10] <chr1s> ok if you do "cd Desktop" that should get you to the directory where your desktop resides :)
[14:11] <chr1s> i guess that icon you were clicking on before is there somewhere?
[14:11] <lenswipee> ok
[14:12] <chr1s> do you know where the icon is exactly on your file system?
[14:13] <lenswipee> in desktop
[14:13] <lenswipee> nope
[14:13] <chr1s> ok what do you get if you do "ls" now?
[14:13] <lenswipee> so you want me to execute install file from terminal basically?
[14:13] <chr1s> yep
[14:13] <lenswipee> i get
[14:13] <chr1s> cool
[14:13] <chr1s> not such a noob :)
[14:14] <lenswipee> ubitqytu...desktop
[14:14] <chr1s> ok, just run the installer from the command line like you said and see what you get as output on the terminal
[14:14] <lenswipee> ill have to go back to desktop manager to look around
[14:15] <chr1s> ok, let me know when you have something and we'll see what we can do
[14:15] <hateball> lenswipee: what GPU do you have?
[14:15] <hateball> and what distro version?
[14:16] <hateball> as nouveau in 14.04 wont work with nvidia 9xx series, you need to boot nomodeset and then grab a recent driver from  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:17] <lenswipee> ok hateball
[14:17] <lenswipee> the install file is in desktop
[14:18] <lenswipee> its called ubuiqity-kdui.desktop
[14:19] <lenswipee> typing 'ubuiqity-kdui.desktop' in terminal gives command not found
[14:19] <lenswipee> no idea what nvidia drivers is needed but its a few years old laptop
[14:21] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, is this laptop a hybrid with 2 GPUs. intel and nvidia? AKA Optimus system?
[14:21] <lenswipee> nah one GPU
[14:21] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:21] <BluesKaj> good
[14:21] <lenswipee> just nvidia
[14:22] <lenswipee> so how to execute the install file in terminal
[14:22] <lenswipee> its called
[14:22] <lenswipee> 'ubuiqity-kdui.desktop'
[14:25] <hateball> well, you cant
[14:25] <hateball> it requires X
[14:25] <hateball> lenswipee: but is this 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[14:26] <lenswipee> what is X?
[14:26] <hateball> a GUI
[14:26] <lenswipee> 14.04 LTS
[14:27] <lenswipee> the install file is only executable in GUI?
[14:27] <hateball> well then, either you use the minimal install with 14.04 and pull in kubuntu-desktop + nvidia drivers from PPA, or you use 15.10 which works with recent nvidia cards ootb
[14:27] <hateball> you _could_ even go for 16.04 even tho it's not final yet
[14:28] <lenswipee> problem is i cant even install kubuntu
[14:34] <hateball> lenswipee: and did you try a 15.10 media?
[14:35] <lenswipee> might have to try the latest kubuntu 15.X perhaps
[14:36] <BluesKaj> n ot 15.X, 15.10...15.04 is no longer supported
[14:37] <BluesKaj> lenswipee,^
[14:37] <andybrine> Does anyone know where you can setup the calendar in the panel in kbuntu?
[14:37] <andybrine> I would like to integrate it with my google calendar
[14:37] <chr1s> lenswipee: I thought you had X (the GUI) working now after we did "startx"?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> andybrine, click on the time in the panel
[14:38] <lenswipee> yes
[14:38] <lenswipee> but when i click install nothing happens
[14:38] <lenswipee> X works
[14:38] <chr1s> to execute the installer just open terminal, cd to the correct location and do "./ubiquity...." (whatever it's called
[14:38] <andybrine> yes, im clicking on it but I want to configure it to show my google events
[14:38] <andybrine> it shows the calendar but no events in there
[14:39] <lenswipee> chr1s: tried that
[14:39] <chr1s> lenswipee: you just need to put "./" in front of the name of the installer since probably the current directory isn't in your path
[14:39] <lenswipee> chr1s: it wont execute
[14:39] <chr1s> lenswipee: and it didn't work? Does it give you an error message?
[14:40] <andybrine> is it all done though korganiser?
[14:40] <lenswipee> chr1s: something about command not available
[14:40] <lenswipee> chr1s: i did chmod +x name
[14:40] <lenswipee> chr1s: ./name
[14:41] <chr1s> ok, try doing "sudo su -"
[14:42] <chr1s> then cd to the directory and run it again
[14:43] <lenswipee> chr1s: thanks ill try it tomorrow morning. getting late here. and i've had enough :)
[14:43] <chr1s> ok, no worries, if that doesn't work I'm out of ideas anyway
[14:43] <lenswipee> here im thinking of migrating away from windows to kubuntu as it has "windows feel".
[14:44] <lenswipee> what a hell of an experience
[14:44] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, put a new image on the stick with dd , then try again
[14:44] <chr1s> i've never known it be this hard :)
[14:44] <BluesKaj> chris the image is corrupted imo, that's the problem
[14:45] <lenswipee> chr1s: just my luck.
[14:45] <lenswipee> BluesKaj: ill check it tomorrow first thing.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> lenswipee, ok
[14:45] <lenswipee> Bye guys. Cya tomorrow no doubt.
[14:46] <andybrine> Is is possible to integrate the google calendar in kde?
[14:46] <andybrine> so it shows the events when you click on the clock
[14:48] <BluesKaj> andybrine, https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=261&t=128934
[14:49] <andybrine> BluesKaj: Thanks, but there was no response to that post
[15:00] <BluesKaj> andybrine, oops sorry...most of the info is out of date on google
[15:55] <Guest60238> l
[15:56] <Guest60238> NICK DZ
[16:08] <jim__> hi there
[16:10] <jim__> looking for help trying to get advice on how to download remote desktop connection on kubuntu and a vpn
[16:11] <chr1s> jim__: what do you mean by download remote desktop connection?
[16:11] <chr1s> do you just want to remote desktop to another machine?
[18:00] <digitalmouse> greetings, programs!
[18:02] <BluesKaj> programs?
[18:10] <volk> что с этим делать
[18:53] <sandy> hi
[18:54] <sandy> i installed kubuntu 14.04 on my dell insiron 5558 pc
[18:54] <sandy> wifi and video drivers aren't working
[18:55] <sandy> any one there??
[18:56] <sandy> hello any one there??
[18:56] <BluesKaj> sandy which chips ?
[18:56] <sandy> in the sense??
[18:57] <genii> sandy: Please have patience. If no one responds to a question, ask again in 10-15 minutes.
[18:57] <BluesKaj> wifi and gpu
[18:57] <sandy> wifi is intel dualband wireless AC 3160
[18:58] <sandy> and video nvidia
[18:58] <BluesKaj> odd that nvidia isn't working , normally the nouveau driver works well enough
[18:59] <sandy> okay
[19:00] <sandy> its not working!!
[19:00] <sandy> even the touchpad
[19:01] <genii> sandy: What are the symptoms the video drivers not working... just black screen and no video period, or you get graphics but there is some problem with them like tearing
[19:01] <BluesKaj> sandy, have you updated and upgraded?
[19:01] <sandy> updated
[19:01] <BluesKaj> upgrade as well
[19:01] <genii> First thing to tackle would be wifi, anyhow
[19:01] <sandy> brightness doesn't change
[19:02] <sandy> how to get my wifi problem fixed??
[19:02] <BluesKaj> check the package manager for intel wifi driver
[19:03] <sandy> as in where?
[19:03] <sandy> i am new to linux
[19:05] <BluesKaj> kmenu>apps>system>software center
[19:07] <sandy> it doesn't show anything
[19:08] <dhanraj> hey
[19:08] <dhanraj> anybody know how to solve this?
[19:08] <dhanraj> Found dependency from scilab-cli-bin to libstdc++ found
[19:08] <dhanraj> Makefile:2092: recipe for target 'check-libstdcpp-dep' failed
[19:08] <dhanraj> make[1]: *** [check-libstdcpp-dep] Error 2
[19:08] <dhanraj> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/dhanraj/gsoc/scilab/scilab-5.5.2'
[19:08] <dhanraj> Makefile:1541: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
[19:11] <sandy> it doesn't work!
[19:11] <sandy> thanks
[19:15] <genii> dhanraj: Looks like you're trying to compile something
[19:16] <dhanraj> yes
[19:16] <dhanraj> scilab
[19:16] <dhanraj> genii: can help me out with the error?
[19:16] <dhanraj> genii: can you help me out with the error?
[19:16] <genii> dhanraj: Why not just install it normally instead of compiling?
[19:17] <genii> !info scilab
[19:18] <dhanraj> i want to contribute in scilab
[19:19] <genii> dhanraj: Try: sudo apt-get build-dep scilab
[19:20] <genii> ...and then try your build again
[19:20] <dhanraj> yes i did that
[19:20] <dhanraj> but still same error
[19:21] <dhanraj> one more thing
[19:22] <dhanraj> how should i unlock my directory
[19:26] <genii> dhanraj: I would suggest to download the source by sudo apt-get source scilab   ...rather than from a tar.gz someplace
[19:27] <dhanraj> ohk
[19:36] <dhanraj> genii: same error
[20:01] <genii> dhanraj: Apologies on lag, have a work emergency here.
[20:01] <dhanraj> genii: no problem
[20:02] <dhanraj> btw i solved it now
[20:37] <dpy> hi guys
[20:38] <soee> hiho
[20:38] <dpy> I'm using a laptop with intel HD5500 and kernel 4.2.0, whenever I do something in full screen (youtube video/browser full screen/mplayer) the video is not fluent, or windows are not refreshed)
[20:39] <dpy> if I do not go into full screen (i.e. 1 pixel smaller than that) it works
[20:39] <dpy> does this ring a bell for anyone?
[20:40] <dpy> I suspect it's some sort of overzealous optimization going on
[21:54] <vorteks> why does kubuntu installer hang fous hours at Detecting file systems? i had problem with version 16.x and 15.10
[21:54] <vorteks> and google.com show other having problem with no solutions
[21:55] <vorteks> other=ithers
[21:58] <genii> Do you have a raid controller which uses Windows drivers?
[21:58] <vorteks> nope
[21:58] <vorteks> no raid at all
[21:59] <genii> Do you know what filesystems you have?
[21:59] <vorteks> ext4 and swap
[21:59] <vorteks> ls
[21:59] <vorteks> woops forget the ls
[22:02] <genii> vorteks: Do the partiton types and filesystems which are on those partitions line up? For example, you can have a partition which is type 7 ( NTFS) but actually was formatted ext4
[22:02] <genii> The installer looks at the partition type to try and decide what filesystem is on that partition
[22:02] <genii> ( same as the automounter does)
[22:04] <vorteks> hrm
[22:05] <vorteks> yeah they do
[22:05] <vorteks> er what do you mean?
[22:11] <vorteks> okk ill looks at partition types
[22:11] <vorteks> all i know is the installer cd didn't do this to me last week on this computer


[02:10] <bluesabre> knome, thanks, now I don't have to panic so much about catfish and parole :)
[04:01] <bluesabre> knome, also looking into getting menulibre to work with menus
[04:02] <bluesabre> though technically, it wouldn't quite be menu-"libre" any more
[04:02] <bluesabre> :)
[08:47] <ochosi> codebrainz: pong
[08:49] <codebrainz> ochosi, i just made an "Issue" on github/greybird
[08:49] <codebrainz> (to avoid forgetting in case you didn't pong :)
[08:50] <ochosi> ah ok, sounds good
[08:50] <codebrainz> it's not an "Issue" at all though, more of a query
[08:52] <ochosi> codebrainz: it seems your editor isn't using a real toolbar widget..? i just checked again with gedit, and the toolbar is shaded just like in gtk2
[08:52] <ochosi> (everything else would've surprised me, so no, it's not a design decision :))
[08:52] <codebrainz> the gtk3/top one is mine, it's just a gtktoolbar i think
[08:53] <codebrainz> it's loaded from a glade file
[08:53] <codebrainz> maybe there's a property the toolbar needs to have set to do that?
[08:54] <ochosi> not sure, i can check a bit later though
[08:55] <codebrainz> whenever, it's no big deal, just makes my new program look funky
[08:56] <codebrainz> fwiw, Geany is the gtk2/rear program
[08:57] <ochosi> ah, nice :)
[17:38] <ochosi> happy new year everyone in advance!


[04:40] <yigal> should I use a custom dtst?
[14:00] <vinay> resume from hibernate isn't working for me.
[14:00] <vinay> dell d620
[14:00] <vinay> any ideas about debugging this?
[20:15] <Genotrius> Excuse me, I'm having a little trouble with the update on my laptop.
[20:16] <Genotrius> Oh, sorry, just sw that...